WEBVTT 00:00:14.681 --> 00:00:16.049 THE SENATE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE. 00:00:16.116 --> 00:00:18.218 NUMBER FIVE ON CORRECTIONS, PUBLIC 00:00:18.284 --> 00:00:21.388 SAFETY, JUDICIARY, LABOR AND TRANSPORTATION WILL 00:00:21.454 --> 00:00:23.623 BEGIN NOW IN 60S. 00:00:50.984 --> 00:00:52.952 THE SENATE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE, NUMBER 00:00:53.019 --> 00:00:54.954 FIVE ON CORRECTIONS, PUBLIC SAFETY, 00:00:55.021 --> 00:00:57.290 JUDICIARY, LABOR AND TRANSPORTATION WILL 00:00:57.357 --> 00:00:58.425 NOW COME TO ORDER. 00:00:59.092 --> 00:01:01.461 I'M SENATOR LAURA RICHARDSON, CHAIR 00:01:01.528 --> 00:01:03.596 OF THE SENATE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE. 00:01:03.663 --> 00:01:05.732 NUMBER FIVE ON THE ITEMS THAT 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:07.333 I PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED. 00:01:07.567 --> 00:01:10.670 TODAY, I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO DISCUSS 00:01:10.737 --> 00:01:13.506 IN THIS HEARING THE ISSUE OF JUDGESHIPS 00:01:13.573 --> 00:01:16.509 AND FACILITY NEEDS IN CALIFORNIA COURTS. 00:01:16.576 --> 00:01:18.545 I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR 00:01:18.611 --> 00:01:21.614 ELOISE GOMEZ REYES, FOR HER PARTICIPATION 00:01:21.681 --> 00:01:24.484 TODAY, AS WELL AS THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL, 00:01:24.684 --> 00:01:26.553 COURT REPRESENTATIVES AND ALL OF OUR 00:01:26.619 --> 00:01:28.755 WITNESSES WHO HAVE JOINED US TODAY. 00:01:29.055 --> 00:01:30.890 I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT SENATOR 00:01:30.957 --> 00:01:35.195 CERVANTES AND SENATOR SATO HAVE A ALSO VERY 00:01:35.261 --> 00:01:37.664 IMPORTANT INTEREST IN THESE ISSUES, AND WE 00:01:37.730 --> 00:01:40.099 PLAN ON WORKING WITH THEM TO PRODUCE 00:01:40.166 --> 00:01:43.470 AN AFTER ACTION ITEM REPORT THAT WILL COME 00:01:43.536 --> 00:01:45.371 WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PRO TEM 00:01:45.438 --> 00:01:47.140 AND TO THE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. 00:01:47.607 --> 00:01:49.576 I'M ESPECIALLY PLEASED THAT WE'RE HOLDING THIS 00:01:49.642 --> 00:01:51.978 IMPORTANT HEARING HERE IN THE 35TH SENATE 00:01:52.045 --> 00:01:54.647 DISTRICT AT THE COMPTON COURTHOUSE, PROVIDING 00:01:54.714 --> 00:01:57.217 US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE THESE 00:01:57.283 --> 00:02:00.153 ISSUES IN A COMMUNITY DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY 00:02:00.220 --> 00:02:03.022 THE ACCESSIBILITY AND EFFICIENCY OF OUR 00:02:03.089 --> 00:02:04.224 JUDICIAL SYSTEM. 00:02:04.724 --> 00:02:06.726 ACCESS TO JUSTICE IS A BASIC, 00:02:06.793 --> 00:02:07.961 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. 00:02:08.027 --> 00:02:09.696 AND SOME OF THESE WORDS YOU MIGHT HEAR 00:02:09.762 --> 00:02:11.164 FAMILIAR BECAUSE WHEN THE CHIEF 00:02:11.231 --> 00:02:14.367 JUSTICE GAVE HER PRESENTATION, I STOLE 00:02:14.434 --> 00:02:17.003 SOME OF HER WORDS. SO I'M NOT PLAGIARIZING. 00:02:17.070 --> 00:02:19.772 I'M ADVISING YOU IN ADVANCE THAT SOME 00:02:19.839 --> 00:02:21.641 OF THESE QUOTES DO COME FROM HER. 00:02:22.075 --> 00:02:24.644 ACCESS TO JUSTICE IS A BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL 00:02:24.711 --> 00:02:26.980 RIGHT, AND ENSURING THAT OUR COURTS HAVE 00:02:27.046 --> 00:02:30.617 THE JUDGES, RESOURCES AND FACILITIES NECESSARY 00:02:30.683 --> 00:02:33.486 TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IS A RESPONSIBILITY WE MUST 00:02:33.553 --> 00:02:34.654 TAKE SERIOUSLY. 00:02:35.088 --> 00:02:37.857 ACROSS CALIFORNIA, OUR COURTS CONTINUE TO FACE 00:02:37.924 --> 00:02:41.261 CHALLENGES INVOLVING JUDICIAL VACANCIES, 00:02:41.327 --> 00:02:45.131 GROWING CASELOADS, AGING FACILITIES AND RESOURCES 00:02:45.198 --> 00:02:48.401 NECESSARY TO UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. 00:02:48.768 --> 00:02:52.105 THIS IS WHY THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE CO-EQUAL 00:02:52.171 --> 00:02:54.807 BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, EACH WITH A DIFFERENT 00:02:54.874 --> 00:02:56.109 RESPONSIBILITY. 00:02:56.409 --> 00:02:58.745 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR COURTS HAVE SUFFICIENT 00:02:58.811 --> 00:03:02.148 RESOURCES TO NOT ONLY DELIVER TIMELY AND FAIR 00:03:02.215 --> 00:03:05.318 JUSTICE, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT COURT PERSONNEL, 00:03:05.685 --> 00:03:08.488 THE PUBLIC AND OUR COURT SYSTEMS FROM THREATS. 00:03:08.855 --> 00:03:11.491 THESE CHALLENGES EXTEND BEYOND PHYSICAL 00:03:11.558 --> 00:03:14.961 AND ONLINE SECURITY TO INCLUDE THE RECRUITMENT 00:03:15.028 --> 00:03:17.964 AND RETENTION OF JUDGES AND COURT STAFF, AS 00:03:18.031 --> 00:03:20.567 WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE OF SAFE, FUNCTIONAL 00:03:20.633 --> 00:03:22.635 AND ACCESSIBLE COURT FACILITIES. 00:03:23.803 --> 00:03:26.239 AS WE'LL HEAR TODAY, JUSTICE IS NOT BEING 00:03:26.306 --> 00:03:28.942 SERVED IN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE, AND WE AS 00:03:29.008 --> 00:03:32.579 LEGISLATORS, IT'S OUR PRIORITY TO ENSURE THAT 00:03:32.645 --> 00:03:35.415 TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE INVESTED RESPONSIBLY 00:03:35.615 --> 00:03:37.650 WHILE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR COURTS 00:03:37.717 --> 00:03:39.586 AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE. 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.388 TODAY'S HEARING WILL FOCUS ON ONE KEY 00:03:42.455 --> 00:03:44.958 AREA, WHICH IS COURT TRANSPARENCY, WHICH 00:03:45.024 --> 00:03:47.827 IS WHY WE'RE HERE IN THIS HEARING TODAY TO 00:03:47.894 --> 00:03:50.763 EFFECTIVELY EXPLAIN THE DIFFICULTIES THAT 00:03:50.830 --> 00:03:53.766 OUR COURT SYSTEM IS FACING IN THERE NEEDS 00:03:53.833 --> 00:03:56.402 TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY SERVE THE PUBLIC. 00:03:56.669 --> 00:03:59.038 IT IS MY HOPE THAT TODAY'S DISCUSSION 00:03:59.105 --> 00:04:01.908 WILL PROVIDE VALUABLE INSIGHT INTO EXISTING 00:04:01.975 --> 00:04:04.677 CHALLENGES, IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR 00:04:04.744 --> 00:04:07.480 IMPROVEMENT AND HELP GUIDE FOR FUTURE BUDGET 00:04:07.547 --> 00:04:09.115 AND POLICY DECISIONS. 00:04:09.849 --> 00:04:13.386 THE 2026 BUDGET, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY 00:04:13.453 --> 00:04:15.655 COLLEAGUE AND ALSO WITH THE SENATE BUDGET 00:04:15.722 --> 00:04:20.360 STAFF, INCLUDED $100 MILLION ONE TIME AND 44 00:04:20.426 --> 00:04:23.162 MILLION ONGOING TO SUPPORT NEW JUDGESHIPS. 00:04:23.796 --> 00:04:25.665 WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL 00:04:25.732 --> 00:04:27.900 MONEY TO SUPPORT COURT CONSTRUCTION 00:04:27.967 --> 00:04:28.968 AND MAINTENANCE. 00:04:29.235 --> 00:04:31.971 I, I WAS PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM TO 00:04:32.038 --> 00:04:33.406 SPEARHEAD THESE EFFORTS. 00:04:33.640 --> 00:04:35.708 BUT AS I'VE DONE MORE RESEARCH, I FOUND 00:04:35.775 --> 00:04:38.478 THAT THERE REALLY IS SO MUCH MORE TO DO. 00:04:39.112 --> 00:04:41.447 SO WITH THAT, WE WILL WELCOME 00:04:41.514 --> 00:04:42.915 THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, 00:04:43.349 --> 00:04:44.350 SENATOR REYES. 00:04:46.552 --> 00:04:48.488 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO 00:04:48.554 --> 00:04:50.156 PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S HEARING. 00:04:50.757 --> 00:04:51.958 WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE HERE 00:04:52.025 --> 00:04:53.359 AT THE COMPTON COURTHOUSE, I SAW 00:04:53.426 --> 00:04:55.528 A FEW APPLAUSE OVER IN THE CORNER OVER THERE. 00:04:56.029 --> 00:04:58.531 UM, WE ALWAYS LOVE OUR OWN COURTHOUSES AND WE 00:04:58.598 --> 00:05:01.601 KNOW THE NEEDS OF OUR COURTHOUSES, WHETHER 00:05:01.668 --> 00:05:05.304 IT'S MORE JUDGES OR CONSTRUCTION OR REPAIR 00:05:05.605 --> 00:05:07.040 OR DELAYED MAINTENANCE. 00:05:07.106 --> 00:05:09.275 IT HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR FAR TOO LONG. 00:05:09.842 --> 00:05:11.110 UH, WE'VE HEARD THOSE STORIES. 00:05:11.177 --> 00:05:13.746 AND, UM, MADAM CHAIR WASN'T JUST 00:05:13.813 --> 00:05:16.549 A PARTICIPANT OF WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH 00:05:16.616 --> 00:05:17.684 IN THIS BUDGET. 00:05:17.750 --> 00:05:19.185 SHE WAS THE LEADER IN IT. 00:05:19.585 --> 00:05:21.854 AND WITHOUT HER LEADERSHIP, I TRULY 00:05:21.921 --> 00:05:24.157 DO NOT BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED 00:05:24.524 --> 00:05:27.393 IN THE STATE BUDGET THE AMOUNT OF MONEY 00:05:27.460 --> 00:05:30.797 AND THE AREAS THAT NEEDED TO BE COVERED. 00:05:30.863 --> 00:05:33.399 HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR FOR HER LEADERSHIP. 00:05:33.466 --> 00:05:34.901 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN. 00:05:35.101 --> 00:05:36.969 THANK YOU SO MANY TIMES, BUT I WANT TO THANK 00:05:37.036 --> 00:05:38.805 YOU AGAIN FOR THAT LEADERSHIP, BECAUSE IT 00:05:38.871 --> 00:05:43.242 MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN HOW FINAL BUDGET IS 00:05:43.309 --> 00:05:44.377 FINALLY PUT TOGETHER. 00:05:45.545 --> 00:05:48.347 I'M REALLY PROUD THAT THIS HEARING FOLLOWS 00:05:48.414 --> 00:05:50.817 THE STATE'S RECENT BUDGET INVESTMENT, 00:05:50.883 --> 00:05:53.686 AS MADAM CHAIR HAS INDICATED, OF $100 00:05:53.753 --> 00:05:56.689 MILLION ONE TIME FUNDING, PLUS THE 44 00:05:56.756 --> 00:05:57.857 MILLION ONGOING. 00:05:58.524 --> 00:06:01.527 44 MILLION ONGOING FUNDING TO SUPPORT NEW 00:06:01.594 --> 00:06:06.499 JUDGESHIPS AND ALSO WITH THE ASSOCIATED 00:06:06.566 --> 00:06:09.268 COURT FACILITY PROJECTS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN 00:06:09.335 --> 00:06:10.336 THE BUDGET. 00:06:10.636 --> 00:06:12.572 THESE INVESTMENTS ARE AN IMPORTANT STEP 00:06:12.638 --> 00:06:15.274 TOWARD ADDRESSING JUDICIAL SHORTAGES 00:06:15.675 --> 00:06:17.810 AND IMPROVING ACCESS TO JUSTICE FOR COMMUNITIES 00:06:17.877 --> 00:06:19.078 ACROSS CALIFORNIA. 00:06:19.679 --> 00:06:22.348 AND IN MY MY CASE, INCLUDING THE INLAND 00:06:22.415 --> 00:06:26.619 EMPIRE, THE INLAND EMPIRE CONTINUES TO 00:06:26.686 --> 00:06:30.389 FACE SIGNIFICANT COURT WORKLOAD PRESSURES IN 00:06:30.456 --> 00:06:31.491 SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY. 00:06:31.557 --> 00:06:33.826 THE SUPERIOR COURT SERVES MORE THAN 2.2 00:06:33.893 --> 00:06:35.428 MILLION RESIDENTS. 00:06:35.895 --> 00:06:39.899 WHILE FACING A SHORTAGE OF NEARLY 31 JUDGESHIPS, 00:06:40.533 --> 00:06:42.869 JUDICIAL OFFICERS ARE MANAGING CASELOADS 00:06:42.935 --> 00:06:47.340 APPROXIMATELY 18% ABOVE THE STATE AVERAGE. 00:06:47.740 --> 00:06:50.042 I DO WANT TO THANK OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM 00:06:50.109 --> 00:06:53.913 SAN BERNARDINO WHO HAVE BEEN IN MY EAR TO 00:06:53.980 --> 00:06:56.549 MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF WHAT NEEDS TO 00:06:56.616 --> 00:06:57.617 BE TAKEN CARE OF. 00:07:00.520 --> 00:07:04.924 RIVERSIDE COUNTY HAS A SHORTAGE OF 4045 00:07:04.991 --> 00:07:10.563 JUDGESHIPS, SO BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTIES IN SAN 00:07:10.630 --> 00:07:14.433 BERNARDINO, WE ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST 50%. 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:19.038 IT'S 47, ALMOST 48% OF ALL JUDICIAL SHORTAGES. 00:07:19.539 --> 00:07:22.675 AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE THE 00:07:22.742 --> 00:07:26.078 EMPHASIS THAT MADAM CHAIR, HAS PLACED ON 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.282 MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE EQUITABLE IN WHAT WE DO. 00:07:29.949 --> 00:07:32.618 THESE NUMBERS UNDERSCORE A SIMPLE REALITY. 00:07:32.985 --> 00:07:35.588 JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED. 00:07:36.189 --> 00:07:37.790 WHEN OUR COURTS LACK THE RESOURCES 00:07:37.857 --> 00:07:40.726 AND JUDICIAL CAPACITY THEY NEED, IT CAN MEAN 00:07:40.793 --> 00:07:43.830 LONGER WAITS AND GREATER BARRIERS FOR THE PEOPLE 00:07:44.030 --> 00:07:45.798 WHO DEPEND ON THEM. 00:07:46.299 --> 00:07:48.234 FUNDING NEW JUDGESHIPS AND THE FACILITIES 00:07:48.301 --> 00:07:51.704 NEEDED TO SUPPORT THEM IS A CRITICAL INVESTMENT 00:07:51.771 --> 00:07:53.739 IN ENSURING THAT ALL CALIFORNIANS HAVE 00:07:53.806 --> 00:07:56.909 EQUITABLE AND TIMELY ACCESS TO JUSTICE. 00:07:58.010 --> 00:08:00.146 I LOOK FORWARD TO TODAY'S DISCUSSION ON 00:08:00.213 --> 00:08:03.149 HOW WE CAN ENSURE THESE RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED 00:08:03.216 --> 00:08:05.952 EQUITABLY ACROSS COUNTIES, INCLUDING 00:08:06.018 --> 00:08:09.355 RURAL AND HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, 00:08:09.655 --> 00:08:11.858 AND DIRECTED TO THE AREAS WITH 00:08:11.924 --> 00:08:12.925 THE GREATEST NEED. 00:08:13.726 --> 00:08:16.162 THE WORK OF OUR JUDICIAL OFFICERS IS INVALUABLE, 00:08:16.229 --> 00:08:18.297 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM OUR JUDGES 00:08:18.731 --> 00:08:19.932 AND JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 00:08:20.433 --> 00:08:22.001 THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE 00:08:22.068 --> 00:08:24.237 AND OTHER EXPERTS ON HOW WE CAN CONTINUE 00:08:24.303 --> 00:08:27.240 ADDRESSING CALIFORNIA'S STATEWIDE JUDICIAL NEEDS 00:08:27.306 --> 00:08:30.376 AND STRENGTHENING ACCESS TO JUSTICE FOR ALL. 00:08:30.910 --> 00:08:32.545 THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 00:08:33.913 --> 00:08:35.214 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 00:08:36.015 --> 00:08:37.884 WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR FIRST PANEL. 00:08:37.950 --> 00:08:39.685 AND THE TITLE OF THAT IS JUDICIAL 00:08:39.752 --> 00:08:42.255 NEED AND ALLOCATION OF NEW JUDGESHIPS. 00:08:42.655 --> 00:08:44.724 LET'S START WITH OUR FIRST ISSUE, 00:08:45.057 --> 00:08:47.994 AND WE WILL START WITH DREW SODERBERG 00:08:48.661 --> 00:08:50.796 FROM THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE, 00:08:50.863 --> 00:08:54.867 FOLLOWED BY JAKE CHATTERS, LEAH 00:08:54.934 --> 00:08:58.704 ROSE GOODWIN, JUDGE JACKSON, MR. 00:08:58.771 --> 00:09:01.540 Z AND THOSE OF US WHO WERE HERE 00:09:01.607 --> 00:09:05.111 KNOW WHO THAT IS. LET GO OF IT. 00:09:05.311 --> 00:09:07.880 I'M GOING TO GET HIS NAME BEFORE I FINISH 00:09:07.947 --> 00:09:08.981 MY TIME HERE. 00:09:09.048 --> 00:09:10.883 IF ALL OF YOU COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. 00:09:28.234 --> 00:09:31.070 WITH THAT, WE WILL BEGIN WITH MR. SODERBERGH. 00:09:36.575 --> 00:09:38.544 BOARD. LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE. 00:09:39.979 --> 00:09:42.381 GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. 00:09:42.615 --> 00:09:45.284 SENATOR. TODAY I WILL BE PRESENTING FROM 00:09:45.351 --> 00:09:47.186 THIS HANDOUT, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE IN 00:09:47.253 --> 00:09:48.254 FRONT OF YOU TODAY. 00:09:49.622 --> 00:09:52.925 IF YOU TURN TO PAGE ONE OF THAT HANDOUT, YOU'LL 00:09:52.992 --> 00:09:55.494 FIND OUR DISCUSSION OF THE NEW JUDGESHIPS. 00:09:55.861 --> 00:09:59.231 AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE 2020 627 00:09:59.298 --> 00:10:02.168 BUDGET INCLUDED 100 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL 00:10:02.234 --> 00:10:06.339 FUND AND 2026, 27 AND 44 MILLION 00:10:06.405 --> 00:10:09.842 ONGOING BEGINNING IN 2020 728 TO SUPPORT 00:10:09.909 --> 00:10:13.212 THE ESTABLISHMENT OF 13 NEW JUDGESHIPS. 00:10:13.579 --> 00:10:15.581 THESE JUDGESHIPS WILL BE ROLLED OUT IN 00:10:15.648 --> 00:10:18.884 THE LAST QUARTER OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, THREE 00:10:18.951 --> 00:10:23.756 BEING ADDED EACH YEAR FROM 2026 TO 20 2930, 00:10:23.990 --> 00:10:26.158 AND THEN IN 2030 31. 00:10:26.225 --> 00:10:28.327 THE FINAL JUDGESHIP WILL BE ESTABLISHED 00:10:28.394 --> 00:10:30.930 IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THAT FISCAL YEAR. 00:10:31.497 --> 00:10:33.299 THE FUNDING FOR THESE JUDGESHIPS NOT ONLY 00:10:33.366 --> 00:10:36.102 SUPPORTS THE JUDGES, BUT ALSO A COMPLEMENT 00:10:36.168 --> 00:10:38.204 OF TRIAL COURT STAFF, SUCH AS CLERKS 00:10:38.270 --> 00:10:39.271 AND INTERPRETERS. 00:10:39.872 --> 00:10:43.042 THE COST OF COURT SECURITY PROVIDED BY 00:10:43.109 --> 00:10:45.978 BAILIFFS SUPPLIED BY THE COUNTY SHERIFF, 00:10:46.212 --> 00:10:48.814 AS WELL AS FUNDING FOR COURTROOM FACILITY 00:10:48.881 --> 00:10:51.484 PROJECTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW JUDGES. 00:10:52.084 --> 00:10:54.987 IF YOU TURN TO PAGE TWO OF THE HANDOUT, YOU WILL 00:10:55.054 --> 00:10:57.356 SEE A FIGURE SHOWING HOW THE NEW JUDGESHIPS WILL 00:10:57.423 --> 00:10:58.424 BE ALLOCATED. 00:10:58.624 --> 00:11:00.693 THESE JUDGESHIPS WILL BE ALLOCATED BASED ON 00:11:00.760 --> 00:11:02.728 THE JUDICIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT STUDY, WHICH 00:11:02.795 --> 00:11:05.998 IS REGULARLY CARRIED OUT BY THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL 00:11:06.198 --> 00:11:08.968 AND USES INFORMATION ABOUT COURT WORKLOAD TO 00:11:09.035 --> 00:11:10.936 ESTIMATE THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIPS 00:11:11.003 --> 00:11:11.937 NEEDED. 00:11:12.004 --> 00:11:13.939 THE RECENTLY UPDATED STUDY ESTIMATES 00:11:14.006 --> 00:11:18.411 THAT STATEWIDE, 159 ADDITIONAL JUDGES 00:11:18.477 --> 00:11:21.380 ARE NEEDED ACROSS 18 DIFFERENT COUNTIES. 00:11:22.214 --> 00:11:24.116 BASED ON THIS ASSESSMENT, THE 13 00:11:24.183 --> 00:11:27.053 NEW JUDGESHIPS WILL BE ALLOCATED AS SHOWN 00:11:27.119 --> 00:11:28.521 IN THE FIGURE BELOW. 00:11:29.021 --> 00:11:30.990 THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS ABOUT 00:11:31.057 --> 00:11:31.991 THE JUDGESHIPS. 00:11:32.058 --> 00:11:33.426 I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AT 00:11:33.492 --> 00:11:34.493 THE APPROPRIATE TIME. 00:11:36.529 --> 00:11:39.832 THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL GO TO JAKE, OUR COURT 00:11:39.899 --> 00:11:42.201 EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR PLACER COUNTY. 00:11:42.735 --> 00:11:44.170 THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR THE POLICE REPORT. 00:11:44.236 --> 00:11:45.237 I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME. 00:11:48.074 --> 00:11:49.075 I'M JAKE CHATTERS. 00:11:49.141 --> 00:11:50.609 I'M THE CHAIR OF THE DATA ANALYTICS 00:11:50.676 --> 00:11:53.079 ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 00:11:53.145 --> 00:11:55.381 AND THE COURT EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE SUPERIOR 00:11:55.448 --> 00:11:56.615 COURT OF PLACER COUNTY. 00:11:57.483 --> 00:11:59.251 CALIFORNIA'S TRIAL COURTS NEED ADDITIONAL 00:11:59.318 --> 00:12:01.587 JUDICIAL RESOURCES TO PROVIDE EQUAL ACCESS TO 00:12:01.654 --> 00:12:02.922 JUSTICE IN OUR STATE. 00:12:03.622 --> 00:12:05.958 THESE NEEDS ARE FOCUSED IN 18 OF OUR COUNTIES 00:12:06.025 --> 00:12:08.060 AND COURTS, WHICH HAVE A COMBINED NEED 00:12:08.127 --> 00:12:11.097 FOR 159 ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIPS BASED ON, 00:12:11.163 --> 00:12:12.698 AS YOU JUST HEARD ON THE JUDICIAL NEEDS 00:12:12.765 --> 00:12:14.366 ASSESSMENT COMPLETED THIS MONTH. 00:12:15.501 --> 00:12:16.735 THIS NEED IS CONCENTRATED IN 00:12:16.802 --> 00:12:18.637 THE INLAND EMPIRE AND CENTRAL VALLEY, 00:12:18.971 --> 00:12:21.173 AND WITH SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZED COURTS IN NORTHERN 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.542 CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR 00:12:23.609 --> 00:12:24.743 PRIOR ASSESSMENTS. 00:12:25.444 --> 00:12:28.114 THE 2026 BUDGET ACT TOOK A STEP IN ADDRESSING 00:12:28.180 --> 00:12:30.916 THESE NEEDS BY FUNDING 13 ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIPS 00:12:31.317 --> 00:12:33.719 JUDGESHIPS THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL ALLOCATED LAST 00:12:33.786 --> 00:12:35.488 FRIDAY TO NINE TRIAL COURTS. 00:12:36.155 --> 00:12:37.990 WHILE THOSE COURTS OF WHICH MINE IS 00:12:38.057 --> 00:12:39.291 ONE. THANK YOU. 00:12:39.692 --> 00:12:41.227 DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE INCREASE IN 00:12:41.293 --> 00:12:42.228 JUDICIAL TIME. 00:12:42.294 --> 00:12:44.396 THOSE POSITIONS WILL PROVIDE THE GAP IN 00:12:44.463 --> 00:12:46.732 JUDGESHIPS AND JUDGE TIME REMAIN SEVERE, 00:12:47.066 --> 00:12:50.769 WITH AN ADDITIONAL 146 JUDGESHIPS STILL NEEDED. 00:12:51.904 --> 00:12:53.706 JUDICIAL NEED IN CALIFORNIA IS CALCULATED 00:12:53.772 --> 00:12:55.407 USING A WEIGHTED CASELOAD MODEL. 00:12:55.808 --> 00:12:58.210 WEIGHTED CASELOAD ALLOWS US TO REFLECT 00:12:58.277 --> 00:13:00.012 THE DIFFERENCE IN JUDICIAL TIME, ON 00:13:00.079 --> 00:13:01.947 AVERAGE, TO TAKE DIFFERENT TYPES OF 00:13:02.014 --> 00:13:04.183 CASES FROM START TO THEIR FINAL CONCLUSION. 00:13:04.917 --> 00:13:07.253 FOR EXAMPLE, MANY INDIVIDUALS OPT TO 00:13:07.319 --> 00:13:09.288 ATTEND TRAFFIC SCHOOL RATHER THAN REQUEST 00:13:09.355 --> 00:13:10.556 A COURT HEARING WHEN THEY RECEIVE 00:13:10.623 --> 00:13:11.724 A TRAFFIC CITATION. 00:13:12.124 --> 00:13:13.759 IN THESE INSTANCES, THERE IS NO 00:13:13.826 --> 00:13:15.594 JUDICIAL TIME SPENT ON THEIR CASE. 00:13:16.162 --> 00:13:17.997 BY CONTRAST, FAMILIES THAT ARE INTERACTING 00:13:18.063 --> 00:13:20.399 WITH OUR DEPENDENCY COURTS HAVE A MULTIPLE 00:13:20.466 --> 00:13:22.468 HEARING PROCESS WITH APPOINTED LEGAL COUNSEL 00:13:22.535 --> 00:13:24.503 AT THEIR SIDE, WHERE THE JUDICIAL OFFICER 00:13:24.570 --> 00:13:26.639 SPENDS SUBSTANTIAL TIME EVALUATING THE BEST 00:13:26.705 --> 00:13:27.806 INTERESTS OF THE CHILD. 00:13:28.741 --> 00:13:30.209 A WEIGHTED CASELOAD MODEL MEANS WE 00:13:30.276 --> 00:13:31.877 COUNT THE SINGLE TRAFFIC INFRACTION 00:13:31.944 --> 00:13:33.512 AND THE SINGLE DEPENDENCY ACTION NOT 00:13:33.579 --> 00:13:35.548 AS EQUAL WORKLOAD, BUT IN A WAY THAT 00:13:35.614 --> 00:13:37.550 REFLECTS THE GREATER NEED FOR JUDICIAL TIME 00:13:37.616 --> 00:13:38.851 AND VARYING CASE TYPES. 00:13:39.852 --> 00:13:41.587 THE NEED FOR 146 ADDITIONAL 00:13:41.654 --> 00:13:43.889 JUDGESHIPS THANKS TO THE REDUCTION OF THE 13, 00:13:43.956 --> 00:13:46.091 AND THE BUDGET ACT IS BASED ON A BRAND NEW SET 00:13:46.158 --> 00:13:47.159 OF CASE WEIGHTS. 00:13:47.226 --> 00:13:48.928 THE UPDATED CASE WEIGHTS WERE APPROVED 00:13:48.994 --> 00:13:50.863 THIS PAST FRIDAY, AND THE RESULT OF 00:13:50.930 --> 00:13:52.731 THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF JUDICIAL 00:13:52.798 --> 00:13:55.167 WORKLOAD IN CALIFORNIA JUDICIAL BRANCH HISTORY. 00:13:56.068 --> 00:13:58.771 MORE THAN 1200 JUDICIAL OFFICERS FROM 18 COURTS 00:13:58.837 --> 00:14:01.373 PARTICIPATED, WHICH REPRESENTED OVER 60% 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.275 OF CALIFORNIA JUDICIAL OFFICERS. 00:14:03.709 --> 00:14:05.744 THEIR PARTICIPATION RATE IS A VERY 00:14:05.811 --> 00:14:07.646 ASTOUNDING 98%. 00:14:08.747 --> 00:14:10.816 THIS PROCESS INCLUDED TIME STUDIES, FOCUS 00:14:10.883 --> 00:14:12.718 GROUPS, AND EXTENSIVE DATA REVIEW BY 00:14:12.785 --> 00:14:14.453 THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR STATE COURTS, 00:14:14.687 --> 00:14:17.022 JUDICIAL COUNCIL STAFF AND THE DATA ANALYTICS 00:14:17.089 --> 00:14:19.091 ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 00:14:19.625 --> 00:14:22.027 THE STUDY REVEALED THAT MOST, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL 00:14:22.094 --> 00:14:24.697 CASE TYPES, TAKE MORE JUDICIAL TIME TODAY ON 00:14:24.763 --> 00:14:27.132 AVERAGE THAN THEY DID IN PRE-PANDEMIC YEARS. 00:14:27.733 --> 00:14:30.336 IN FELONY CASES, THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO EXPANDED 00:14:30.402 --> 00:14:32.204 BAIL AND DETENTION, DECISION MAKING, 00:14:32.504 --> 00:14:34.139 DIVERSION OPTIONS, AND RESENTENCING 00:14:34.206 --> 00:14:35.207 REVIEWS. 00:14:35.441 --> 00:14:37.376 ACROSS NEARLY ALL CASE TYPES, THE INTRODUCTION 00:14:37.443 --> 00:14:39.478 OF AI AND INCREASES IN DIGITAL BASED 00:14:39.545 --> 00:14:41.080 EVIDENCE HAVE INCREASED THE VOLUME 00:14:41.146 --> 00:14:42.648 OF INFORMATION THAT REQUIRES JUDICIAL 00:14:42.715 --> 00:14:43.716 REVIEW. 00:14:43.916 --> 00:14:45.484 AS MENTIONED ON EVEN NUMBERED YEARS, 00:14:45.551 --> 00:14:47.620 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO REPORT 00:14:47.686 --> 00:14:50.189 ON THE JUDICIAL NEED ACROSS CALIFORNIA. 00:14:51.724 --> 00:14:52.825 UH, SORRY. 00:14:55.628 --> 00:14:56.629 UH. 00:14:59.131 --> 00:15:00.499 THE JUDICIAL NEEDS STUDY, WHICH WILL 00:15:00.566 --> 00:15:01.967 BE TRANSMITTED TO THE LEGISLATURE BY 00:15:02.034 --> 00:15:03.469 NOVEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR. 00:15:03.836 --> 00:15:05.838 COMBINED THE CASE WEIGHTS I JUST MENTIONED 00:15:05.904 --> 00:15:08.307 WITH THREE YEAR AVERAGE CASE FILINGS IN EACH 00:15:08.374 --> 00:15:09.975 SUPERIOR COURT TO DETERMINE THE DEMAND 00:15:10.042 --> 00:15:11.877 FOR CASE DRIVEN JUDICIAL TIME. 00:15:12.344 --> 00:15:14.046 THIS IS THEN COMPARED TO A JUDICIAL FULL 00:15:14.113 --> 00:15:16.048 TIME EQUIVALENT, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD SEE FOR 00:15:16.115 --> 00:15:17.716 A FULL TIME EQUIVALENT ON STAFFING AND BUDGET 00:15:17.783 --> 00:15:20.085 CHANGE PROPOSALS, BUT IT FOCUSES SOLELY 00:15:20.152 --> 00:15:21.387 ON CASE RELATED WORK. 00:15:21.787 --> 00:15:23.422 THIS THEN DERIVES JUDICIAL NEED IN EACH 00:15:23.489 --> 00:15:25.257 TRIAL COURT AND AS MENTIONED, REVEALS 00:15:25.324 --> 00:15:28.027 THAT AS OF TODAY, 146 ADDITIONAL JUDGES ARE 00:15:28.093 --> 00:15:29.028 NEEDED. 00:15:29.094 --> 00:15:30.663 AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE QUESTION OF HOW 00:15:30.729 --> 00:15:31.797 THOSE ARE ALLOCATED. 00:15:32.398 --> 00:15:34.099 THE METHODOLOGY FOR ALLOCATING JUDGESHIPS 00:15:34.166 --> 00:15:35.901 WAS FIRST APPROVED BY THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL 00:15:35.968 --> 00:15:38.771 IN 2001 AND IS NOW CODIFIED IN GOVERNMENT 00:15:38.837 --> 00:15:41.006 CODE, SECTION 69614. 00:15:41.473 --> 00:15:43.108 IT WAS ADAPTED FROM THE HUNTINGTON-HILL 00:15:43.175 --> 00:15:45.311 METHOD USED TO APPORTION SEATS IN CONGRESS. 00:15:46.011 --> 00:15:47.646 THE METHODOLOGY CONSIDERS ABSOLUTE 00:15:47.713 --> 00:15:50.149 NEED, ADJUSTS FOR PROPORTIONAL NEED 00:15:50.215 --> 00:15:52.851 AFTER EACH HYPOTHETICAL ALLOCATION, AND GIVES 00:15:52.918 --> 00:15:54.486 ADDITIONAL WEIGHT TO A COURT'S FIRST 00:15:54.553 --> 00:15:55.554 JUDGESHIP. 00:15:55.854 --> 00:15:57.523 THIS APPROACH HELPS TO BALANCE THE NEED ACROSS 00:15:57.589 --> 00:15:59.958 LARGE AND SMALL COURTS, ENSURING THAT LARGE 00:16:00.025 --> 00:16:01.827 COURTS LIKE ORANGE COUNTY, WHO MAY HAVE 00:16:01.894 --> 00:16:04.096 A LOWER PROPORTIONAL NEED BUT HAVE A DOUBLE 00:16:04.163 --> 00:16:06.265 DIGIT NEED IN TERMS OF JUDGE POSITIONS, 00:16:06.565 --> 00:16:08.567 AND A SMALL COURT LIKE YUBA, WHICH HAS 00:16:08.634 --> 00:16:11.036 A JUDGE GAP OF MORE THAN 40% BUT ONLY 00:16:11.103 --> 00:16:13.005 NEEDS TWO JUDGES, ENSURES THEY ARE BOTH 00:16:13.072 --> 00:16:15.674 CONSIDERED WHEN ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF NEW 00:16:15.741 --> 00:16:16.675 JUDGESHIPS ARE FUNDED. 00:16:16.742 --> 00:16:18.143 THIS CAN RESULT IN WHAT APPEARS TO BE 00:16:18.210 --> 00:16:19.211 AN ODD RESULT. 00:16:19.278 --> 00:16:21.180 FOR EXAMPLE, A LARGE PROPORTIONAL IMPROVEMENT 00:16:21.246 --> 00:16:23.582 FOR A SMALL COURT THAT RECEIVES ONE JUDGESHIP 00:16:23.649 --> 00:16:25.651 AND A LOWER PROPORTIONAL GAIN FOR A LARGE COURT, 00:16:25.718 --> 00:16:27.653 EVEN WHEN IT RECEIVES SEVERAL NEW JUDGESHIPS. 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.822 THESE RESULTS ARE LESS LIKELY WHEN A LARGER 00:16:29.888 --> 00:16:32.057 NUMBER OF JUDGES ARE ALLOCATED AT ONCE, AS 00:16:32.124 --> 00:16:33.726 THE BALANCING FACTORS IN THE METHODOLOGY 00:16:33.792 --> 00:16:35.661 ARE MORE EFFECTIVE IN A LARGER SAMPLE. 00:16:36.562 --> 00:16:38.197 THE DATA ANALYTICS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS 00:16:38.263 --> 00:16:39.765 COMMITTED TO REVIEWING THIS METHODOLOGY 00:16:39.832 --> 00:16:41.934 IN THE COMING 12 TO 24 MONTHS TO 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:43.602 REEVALUATE THESE PRIORITIES AND MAKE 00:16:43.669 --> 00:16:45.938 A RECOMMENDATION TO THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL ON 00:16:46.004 --> 00:16:48.307 WHETHER TO PRESERVE OR MODIFY THIS APPROACH. 00:16:48.941 --> 00:16:50.309 THIS TIMING WOULD RESULT IN COMPLETION 00:16:50.376 --> 00:16:52.277 OF THIS REVIEW BEFORE THE NEXT JUDICIAL NEEDS 00:16:52.344 --> 00:16:55.247 ASSESSMENT IN 2028, AT WHICH TIME IT IS MY 00:16:55.314 --> 00:16:57.049 HOPE THAT WE'LL USE THIS METHODOLOGY TO 00:16:57.116 --> 00:16:59.251 ALLOCATE ANOTHER GROUP OF MUCH NEEDED NEW 00:16:59.318 --> 00:17:01.053 JUDGESHIPS. THANK YOU. 00:17:04.189 --> 00:17:06.258 THANK YOU. ARE YOU SPEAKING ON BEHALF 00:17:06.325 --> 00:17:09.395 OF PLACER COUNTY OR ON BEHALF OF OVERALL, 00:17:09.461 --> 00:17:11.330 THE METHODOLOGY, THE REPORT THAT YOU. 00:17:11.397 --> 00:17:12.598 GAVE ON THE METHODOLOGY? AS THE CHAIR OF 00:17:12.664 --> 00:17:13.999 THE DATA ANALYTICS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, 00:17:14.066 --> 00:17:16.135 WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING 00:17:16.201 --> 00:17:17.770 THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STUDY ITSELF 00:17:17.836 --> 00:17:19.671 AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 00:17:19.938 --> 00:17:22.441 OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 00:17:22.508 --> 00:17:24.576 BUT HE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE 00:17:24.643 --> 00:17:26.645 KNEW THAT PLACER COUNTY DID GET ONE. 00:17:26.712 --> 00:17:27.846 YES, YES. 00:17:27.913 --> 00:17:29.515 THAT'S VERY GOOD. EXACTLY. 00:17:29.882 --> 00:17:32.551 UM, HONORABLE JACQUELINE JACKSON, WHO'S 00:17:32.618 --> 00:17:34.920 THE PRESIDING JUDGE AT RIVERSIDE COURT? 00:17:36.054 --> 00:17:37.423 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO 00:17:37.489 --> 00:17:38.424 SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. 00:17:38.490 --> 00:17:40.359 I APPRECIATE THAT TIME YOU'VE GIVEN. 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.462 SO THERE ARE EXPERTS ON THE METHODOLOGY. 00:17:43.862 --> 00:17:45.164 I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE. 00:17:45.230 --> 00:17:47.666 I'M JUST ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF 00:17:47.733 --> 00:17:53.439 BEING A COURT THAT IS LARGE, FAST GROWING. 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:55.974 UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST IN OUR STATE WITH 00:17:56.041 --> 00:17:58.377 THE DEFICIT OF JUDGES WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW 00:17:58.444 --> 00:18:02.147 APPRECIATIVE WE ARE OF THE NEW STUDY AND ALSO 00:18:02.214 --> 00:18:04.216 THE WORK THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE TO ASSIST 00:18:04.283 --> 00:18:06.418 US WITH GETTING OUR ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIPS. 00:18:06.485 --> 00:18:07.986 WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. 00:18:08.420 --> 00:18:10.722 SO FOCUSING ON PEOPLE AND LITIGANTS 00:18:10.789 --> 00:18:12.257 OR COURT USERS. 00:18:12.758 --> 00:18:14.126 I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 00:18:14.193 --> 00:18:15.394 WHO COMES TO COURT. 00:18:15.461 --> 00:18:17.496 WE KNOW THERE ARE PARENTS LOOKING FOR 00:18:17.563 --> 00:18:19.731 RESOLUTION OF CUSTODY OR OTHER DISPUTES 00:18:19.798 --> 00:18:20.799 WITH CHILDREN. 00:18:20.999 --> 00:18:23.502 WE HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING DISPUTES OR PEOPLE 00:18:23.702 --> 00:18:25.370 WANTING A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, 00:18:25.437 --> 00:18:27.573 AND MAYBE LANDLORDS WANTING PROPERTY BACK. 00:18:27.639 --> 00:18:30.042 AND SO THOSE ARE URGENT IN THE COURT. 00:18:30.375 --> 00:18:33.879 UM ALLEGED VICTIMS, THE ACCUSED OF CRIMES 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.748 AND CHILDREN ALSO IN AREAS LIKE DEPENDENCY 00:18:36.815 --> 00:18:38.884 OR PROBATE, WHOSE FAMILIES CAN'T TAKE 00:18:38.951 --> 00:18:41.987 CARE OF THEM OR AREN'T ABLE TO AT THAT TIME. 00:18:42.254 --> 00:18:44.957 AND THEY'RE ALL LOOKING FOR A TIMELY RESOLUTION 00:18:45.023 --> 00:18:46.458 OF THEIR DISPUTES. 00:18:46.792 --> 00:18:49.127 AND SO WHEN OUR COUNTY THINKS ABOUT THE GROWING 00:18:49.194 --> 00:18:54.032 JUDICIAL NEED IN 2022, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT HAD 00:18:54.099 --> 00:18:57.269 RIVERSIDE AT NEEDING ABOUT 22 ADDITIONAL 00:18:57.336 --> 00:18:59.004 JUDGES, AS MR. 00:18:59.071 --> 00:19:01.340 CHATTERS HAD SAID, THE CURRENT ONE 00:19:01.573 --> 00:19:04.910 BRINGS US TO 45, AND THAT IMPACT ON 00:19:04.977 --> 00:19:07.679 THE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME TO THE COURTHOUSE 00:19:07.746 --> 00:19:11.183 STEPS HAS BEEN PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FOR US. 00:19:11.550 --> 00:19:14.753 SO, AS ONE EXAMPLE, IN FAMILY LAW, IN 00:19:14.820 --> 00:19:18.957 2023, IF A HEARING WAS REQUESTED TODAY, 00:19:19.391 --> 00:19:21.426 WE COULD BRING THEM TO COURT IN RIVERSIDE 00:19:21.493 --> 00:19:22.961 IN 51 DAYS. 00:19:23.228 --> 00:19:25.297 THAT'S A VERY LONG TIME, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR 00:19:25.364 --> 00:19:26.999 CALENDARS PROVIDED FOR. 00:19:27.499 --> 00:19:29.902 AS I SPEAK TO YOU AT THIS TIME, THAT 00:19:29.968 --> 00:19:33.071 NUMBER HAS INCREASED TO 78 DAYS. 00:19:33.338 --> 00:19:34.339 FOR SOME SCHOOL CHILDREN. 00:19:34.406 --> 00:19:37.342 THAT'S AN ENTIRE SUMMER OF NOT KNOWING ABOUT 00:19:37.409 --> 00:19:40.245 CUSTODY OR WHICH SCHOOL THEY MIGHT ATTEND, OR 00:19:40.312 --> 00:19:43.582 WHICH DOCTORS THEY MAY BE GOING TO AS THEIR 00:19:43.649 --> 00:19:45.984 PARENTS OR CAREGIVERS NEED COURT ASSISTANCE 00:19:46.051 --> 00:19:47.853 WITH NAVIGATING THAT FOR THEM. 00:19:48.420 --> 00:19:49.788 IT'S A VERY LONG TIME. 00:19:50.222 --> 00:19:52.357 ANOTHER BRIEF EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS ONE THAT 00:19:52.424 --> 00:19:53.358 IS PRETTY WELL KNOWN. 00:19:53.425 --> 00:19:55.494 I BELIEVE OUR CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS. 00:19:55.861 --> 00:19:59.831 SO FOR SOME CONTEXT, MY COURT DEVOTES 50% 00:19:59.898 --> 00:20:02.668 OF ALL RESOURCES TO OUR CRIMINAL DIVISION 00:20:02.868 --> 00:20:05.270 BENCH OFFICERS, STAFF, RESOURCES. 00:20:05.704 --> 00:20:10.008 EVEN SO, BETWEEN JANUARY OF 2023 00:20:10.075 --> 00:20:14.546 AND MARCH OF THIS YEAR, WE HAD TO DISMISS 494 00:20:14.613 --> 00:20:15.981 CRIMINAL TRIALS. 00:20:16.181 --> 00:20:18.183 WE DID NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GET 00:20:18.250 --> 00:20:21.186 THEM OUT TO TRIAL IN A TIMELY FASHION. 00:20:21.820 --> 00:20:24.323 TO GIVE A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF WHAT MY TRIAL JUDGE'S 00:20:24.389 --> 00:20:27.826 DAY LOOKS LIKE WHEN THEY SEND ONE JURY OUT 00:20:27.893 --> 00:20:30.262 TO START DELIBERATION, NOT RETURNING WITH 00:20:30.329 --> 00:20:32.598 THE VERDICT START DELIBERATION. 00:20:32.664 --> 00:20:35.200 A NEW CASE IMMEDIATELY COMES AND THEY'RE 00:20:35.267 --> 00:20:37.235 WORKING WITH THOSE LAWYERS, THOSE 00:20:37.302 --> 00:20:40.105 LITIGANTS, A NEW VENEER, AND THEY ARE PICKING 00:20:40.172 --> 00:20:43.442 A NEW JURY OR WORKING ON MOTIONS BEFORE THE OTHER 00:20:43.508 --> 00:20:45.377 JURY IS BACK WITH THE VERDICT. 00:20:45.777 --> 00:20:47.613 WE HAVE DONE THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS. 00:20:47.980 --> 00:20:51.183 AND EVEN SO, WE HAD ALMOST 500 CASES 00:20:51.249 --> 00:20:54.086 DISMISSED IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME I HAD MENTIONED. 00:20:54.653 --> 00:20:58.223 AND SO LOOKING AT LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY 00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:00.993 TO HELP US BE MORE EFFICIENT, WE HAVE TRIED 00:21:01.059 --> 00:21:02.327 VERY HARD TO DO THAT. 00:21:02.394 --> 00:21:04.963 BOTH OUR BENCH AND COURT ADMINISTRATORS ARE VERY 00:21:05.030 --> 00:21:06.098 BEHIND THAT. 00:21:06.164 --> 00:21:08.900 IT HAS IMPROVED THE ABILITY TO GET 00:21:08.967 --> 00:21:11.103 ACCESS TO THE COURTS TO GET THINGS THROUGH 00:21:11.169 --> 00:21:12.170 A LITTLE QUICKER. 00:21:12.771 --> 00:21:16.441 HOWEVER, EFFICIENCY ALONE HAS NOT, AND WE 00:21:16.508 --> 00:21:19.177 DON'T BELIEVE IT CAN COMPLETELY MAKE UP 00:21:19.244 --> 00:21:21.713 FOR THE LACK OF OUR JUDICIAL RESOURCES. 00:21:22.114 --> 00:21:24.883 AND SO FOR US, THE ADDITIONAL JUDGES 00:21:24.950 --> 00:21:28.587 MEAN BETTER CAPACITY TO INTERCOURSE, MORE 00:21:28.654 --> 00:21:32.190 CALENDARS, MORE TRIAL COURTS, AND THE ABILITY 00:21:32.257 --> 00:21:35.127 FOR US TO REDUCE THOSE DELAYS THAT THAT DO 00:21:35.193 --> 00:21:36.228 CONCERN US. 00:21:36.294 --> 00:21:38.463 WE WANT TO DO VERY GOOD WORK FOR THE CITIZENS 00:21:38.530 --> 00:21:40.599 OF OUR COUNTY AND EVERYONE WHO COMES 00:21:40.666 --> 00:21:42.034 TO THE COURTHOUSE DOORS. 00:21:42.267 --> 00:21:44.069 AND SO IT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE MUCH 00:21:44.136 --> 00:21:45.337 MORE SUFFICIENT. 00:21:46.004 --> 00:21:47.506 OF COURSE, THOSE JUDGESHIPS NEED TO 00:21:47.572 --> 00:21:49.708 BE SUPPORTED BY STAFF AND FACILITIES 00:21:49.775 --> 00:21:50.942 AND TECHNOLOGY. 00:21:51.209 --> 00:21:52.944 AND WE KNOW THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN VERY 00:21:53.011 --> 00:21:54.880 DILIGENT AT LOOKING AT THAT WHOLE PICTURE, 00:21:54.946 --> 00:21:56.982 AND WE DO APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. 00:21:57.582 --> 00:22:01.286 THOSE 13 NEW JUDGESHIPS ARE INVALUABLE TO US. 00:22:01.353 --> 00:22:03.422 WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THIS COMMITTEE 00:22:03.622 --> 00:22:06.391 AND ALSO THE JUDICIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR 00:22:06.458 --> 00:22:08.827 LOOKING AT THAT SO CLOSELY AND BEING ABLE 00:22:08.894 --> 00:22:11.997 TO PROVIDE A WAY FOR US TO GET THAT HELP WE 00:22:12.064 --> 00:22:15.167 NEED SOON WITH THOSE JUDICIAL RESOURCES. 00:22:15.701 --> 00:22:17.636 WE DON'T TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED, AND WE'RE 00:22:17.703 --> 00:22:19.705 VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE LEGISLATURE'S 00:22:19.771 --> 00:22:21.873 INVESTMENT IN THE COURTS IN THAT WAY. 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:24.543 AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE PARTNERING WITH WITH, 00:22:24.609 --> 00:22:27.279 YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT WHAT THE COURTS NEED, 00:22:27.345 --> 00:22:29.648 RIVERSIDE NEEDS 45, BUT THE BRANCH NEEDS 00:22:29.715 --> 00:22:34.152 159 AND WE SEE THAT AS AS WELL AS A STATE, 00:22:34.219 --> 00:22:36.655 WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE 00:22:36.722 --> 00:22:40.292 GET TIMELY, MEANINGFUL ACCESS TO JUSTICE NO 00:22:40.358 --> 00:22:42.627 MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE AND NO MATTER WHAT KIND 00:22:42.694 --> 00:22:45.163 OF CASE BRINGS THEM TO OUR COURTHOUSE STEPS. 00:22:45.597 --> 00:22:48.066 AND SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME 00:22:48.133 --> 00:22:49.167 AND CONSIDERATION. 00:22:49.234 --> 00:22:51.703 AND THE WORK I KNOW HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. 00:22:51.770 --> 00:22:53.739 ON BEHALF OF THE COURTS, WE JUST WANT TO THANK 00:22:53.805 --> 00:22:56.074 YOU, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO MOVE 00:22:56.141 --> 00:22:57.142 FORWARD FOR THAT. 00:22:58.877 --> 00:22:59.978 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 00:23:00.212 --> 00:23:03.048 WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN TO LEAH ROSE GOODWIN. 00:23:03.482 --> 00:23:06.351 SHE'S OUR CHIEF ON DATA AND ANALYTICS WITH 00:23:06.418 --> 00:23:07.519 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 00:23:08.487 --> 00:23:09.755 THANK YOU, SENATOR. 00:23:09.821 --> 00:23:10.789 SO MR. 00:23:10.856 --> 00:23:12.791 CHATTERS AND I COMBINED OUR TIME TOGETHER SO 00:23:12.858 --> 00:23:14.526 THAT HE COULD GIVE YOU A FULL PICTURE. 00:23:15.060 --> 00:23:17.028 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD OTHER 00:23:17.095 --> 00:23:19.231 THAN I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE PANEL 00:23:19.297 --> 00:23:20.966 WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 00:23:21.500 --> 00:23:22.501 OKAY. THANK YOU. 00:23:23.034 --> 00:23:24.636 UM, MR. Z. 00:23:25.537 --> 00:23:26.772 HERE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. 00:23:26.838 --> 00:23:27.773 SENATOR. 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.041 OKAY. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 00:23:30.275 --> 00:23:33.578 OKAY. UM, WHAT IS YOUR TITLE? OFFICIALLY? 00:23:33.812 --> 00:23:35.247 I AM A BUDGET DIRECTOR. 00:23:35.313 --> 00:23:36.915 UH, BUDGET SERVICES AT THE COUNCIL. 00:23:37.115 --> 00:23:42.354 OKAY. COULD WE, UH, GRAB ANOTHER CHAIR FOR MR. Z? 00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:44.089 BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE RIGHT OVER HERE. 00:23:44.356 --> 00:23:46.625 I THINK, UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS 00:23:46.691 --> 00:23:49.661 YOU YOU MAY FIND THE NEED TO CHIME INTO. 00:23:50.562 --> 00:23:54.299 SO IN, IN LIGHT OF THE PRESENTATION THAT 00:23:54.366 --> 00:23:58.069 WAS MADE, UM, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO 00:23:58.136 --> 00:23:59.104 A COUPLE OF THINGS. 00:23:59.171 --> 00:24:04.576 SO MY STAFF AND I, UM, WE DID AN ANALYSIS 00:24:04.643 --> 00:24:07.412 AND FOLLOWING, UM, THE CURRENT 00:24:07.479 --> 00:24:12.851 JUDICIAL COUNCIL'S UH, METHODOLOGY, WE LOOKED 00:24:12.918 --> 00:24:16.054 AT, IF THE AMOUNT OF JUDGES WERE, WOULD 00:24:16.121 --> 00:24:19.391 BE DISTRIBUTED AS THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY 00:24:19.457 --> 00:24:22.527 ALLOWS FOR WERE THE FASTEST GROWING 00:24:22.594 --> 00:24:25.330 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. 00:24:25.730 --> 00:24:27.766 IT WOULD TAKE THEM ACTUALLY AT LEAST 00:24:27.833 --> 00:24:31.002 EIGHT YEARS TO MEET THEIR 100%. 00:24:31.069 --> 00:24:33.471 THIS WAS BACK IN 2022. 00:24:33.805 --> 00:24:36.975 FOR THEM TO GET TO 100% OF THEIR ALLOTMENT. 00:24:37.042 --> 00:24:38.810 IT WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT 00:24:38.877 --> 00:24:42.581 YEARS WHERE OTHER COMMUNITIES WOULD 00:24:42.647 --> 00:24:46.685 ACTUALLY REACH THEIR 100% GOAL OR NEED, 00:24:46.751 --> 00:24:50.088 MAYBE A JUDICIAL NEED AS THE PROPER TERM IN 00:24:50.155 --> 00:24:51.256 ORDER TO DO THAT. 00:24:51.489 --> 00:24:55.126 AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT THE UPCOMING, THE NEW 00:24:55.193 --> 00:24:59.364 PRIORITIZATION THAT'S COME OUT THAT CONSIDERS 00:24:59.431 --> 00:25:00.599 ADDITIONAL THINGS. 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.001 IT'S SIMILAR IN THAT CASE AS WELL. 00:25:03.768 --> 00:25:07.439 AND LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC IN MY EXAMPLE. 00:25:07.772 --> 00:25:12.344 SO FOR EXAMPLE, FOR 2026, IF WE FOLLOW 00:25:12.410 --> 00:25:14.779 THE METHODOLOGY AS YOU PRESENTED 00:25:14.846 --> 00:25:18.083 RIVERSIDE RECEIVING FOR SAN BERNARDINO 00:25:18.149 --> 00:25:19.885 TO AND THEN KEARNS. 00:25:20.185 --> 00:25:21.853 UH, STAINLESS. 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:23.054 I KNOW I SAID THAT WRONG. 00:25:23.321 --> 00:25:26.725 SAN JOAQUIN, SACRAMENTO, FRESNO, AND PLACER 00:25:26.791 --> 00:25:28.493 COUNTY ALL RECEIVE ONE. 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:31.463 THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES WITH 00:25:31.529 --> 00:25:35.567 THE GREATEST NEED WOULD ONLY RECEIVE 9%, 00:25:35.800 --> 00:25:39.404 UM, RESPECTIVELY, IN THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY. 00:25:39.771 --> 00:25:44.542 AND I THINK THIS IS, UH, 6% FOR SAN BERNARDINO. 00:25:44.609 --> 00:25:48.446 WHEREAS FOR EXAMPLE, UM, SAN JOAQUIN 00:25:48.513 --> 00:25:50.949 WOULD RECEIVE 11% OF THEIR NEED. 00:25:51.149 --> 00:25:54.319 FRESNO WOULD RECEIVE 13% OF THEIR NEED. 00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:56.821 AND PLACER COUNTY, THROUGH THAT ONE WOULD 00:25:56.888 --> 00:25:59.190 RECEIVE 25% OF ITS NEED. 00:25:59.524 --> 00:26:02.627 SO I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH BECAUSE THOSE 00:26:02.694 --> 00:26:05.363 OF YOU WHO'VE COME BEFORE ME, UM, IN THIS 00:26:05.430 --> 00:26:07.265 LAST YEAR OF BEING CHAIR, KNOW THAT THIS 00:26:07.332 --> 00:26:09.935 HAS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE CONTINUALLY ASKED. 00:26:10.001 --> 00:26:14.005 AND SO I GOT TONS OF INFORMATION TO READ. 00:26:14.272 --> 00:26:17.342 AND SO WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS YOUR 00:26:17.409 --> 00:26:18.643 METHODOLOGY. 00:26:19.144 --> 00:26:20.545 UM LET'S SEE. 00:26:20.845 --> 00:26:23.682 UM, THE METHODOLOGY ALSO GIVES ADDITIONAL 00:26:23.748 --> 00:26:26.418 WEIGHT TO EACH COURT'S FIRST JUDGESHIP, 00:26:26.484 --> 00:26:29.287 ENSURING POSITIONS ARE DISTRIBUTED BROADLY 00:26:29.521 --> 00:26:32.023 ACROSS THE STATE RATHER THAN CONCENTRATING 00:26:32.090 --> 00:26:34.693 IN THE COURTS WITH THE LARGEST NUMERIC 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:35.694 NEED. 00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:39.464 SO FOR ME AS A LEGISLATOR, IT'S HARD 00:26:39.531 --> 00:26:43.535 FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD FOCUS, UM, 00:26:43.969 --> 00:26:47.505 PARTICULAR WEIGHTING, UM, IN OTHER AREAS 00:26:47.572 --> 00:26:50.909 WHEN WE'RE REALLY NOT ADDRESSING THE LARGEST 00:26:50.976 --> 00:26:51.876 NEED. 00:26:51.943 --> 00:26:55.647 SO MY QUESTION IS THIS, UM, IS 00:26:55.714 --> 00:26:59.050 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL WILLING TO BE OPEN FOR 00:26:59.117 --> 00:27:01.886 FUTURE UM ALLOCATIONS. 00:27:01.953 --> 00:27:03.621 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT WE HAVE 00:27:03.688 --> 00:27:06.925 NOW, BUT IS THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL WILLING TO BE 00:27:06.992 --> 00:27:10.962 OPEN TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE COUNTIES THAT 00:27:11.029 --> 00:27:12.397 HAVE THE GREATEST NEED? 00:27:12.464 --> 00:27:14.466 I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY THROW OUT 00:27:14.532 --> 00:27:18.136 YOUR METHODOLOGY, BUT IS THERE AN OPENNESS TO 00:27:19.204 --> 00:27:20.405 RELOOK AT. 00:27:21.539 --> 00:27:23.808 CAN'T WE FOCUS ON THE COUNTIES WITH 00:27:23.875 --> 00:27:24.809 THE GREATEST NEED? 00:27:24.876 --> 00:27:26.711 MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET DOUBLE OF WHAT 00:27:26.778 --> 00:27:28.680 THEY NORMALLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN, AND THEN 00:27:28.747 --> 00:27:30.915 THE OTHERS STILL GET SOME, IF WE'RE WILLING 00:27:30.982 --> 00:27:33.018 AS LEGISLATORS TO HELP FUND THAT. 00:27:33.385 --> 00:27:36.588 AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS, I MEAN, 00:27:36.654 --> 00:27:39.457 I GET THE IDEA THAT YOU WANT ALL OF 00:27:39.524 --> 00:27:41.960 THE COUNTIES TO GET SOMETHING. I GET THAT. 00:27:42.193 --> 00:27:45.296 BUT WHEN YOU HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE 00:27:45.363 --> 00:27:49.601 SUFFERING GREATLY, IT JUST IT JUST DOESN'T, 00:27:50.068 --> 00:27:51.636 YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 00:27:51.703 --> 00:27:55.240 AND THEN TO HAVE THIS A GREATER WEIGHT 00:27:55.306 --> 00:27:58.009 ON THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU 00:27:58.076 --> 00:27:59.044 ALREADY GOT ONE. 00:27:59.110 --> 00:28:00.912 SO NOW WE'LL WAIT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU 00:28:00.979 --> 00:28:02.113 CAN GET ONE MORE. 00:28:02.514 --> 00:28:05.550 UM, IT'S JUST COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY 00:28:05.617 --> 00:28:06.684 WE TYPICALLY. 00:28:06.751 --> 00:28:08.653 AND BEING A MEMBER ON THE BUDGET, 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:09.654 EVALUATE THINGS. 00:28:09.721 --> 00:28:11.556 SO ONE, I'M JUST WILLING, I'M NOT 00:28:11.623 --> 00:28:13.091 WILLING MY REQUEST. 00:28:13.158 --> 00:28:16.995 MY QUESTION IS, IS THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL? 00:28:17.062 --> 00:28:19.364 I KNOW YOU'VE SPENT MUCH EFFORT ON THIS 00:28:19.431 --> 00:28:20.465 METHODOLOGY. 00:28:20.665 --> 00:28:22.867 I KNOW IT'S BEING USED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 00:28:22.934 --> 00:28:24.035 I READ ALL OF THAT. 00:28:24.102 --> 00:28:26.838 I KNOW IT FOLLOWS ALL THESE AMAZING THINGS, 00:28:27.038 --> 00:28:29.240 BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE 00:28:29.307 --> 00:28:32.844 HAVE DESPERATELY NEEDED COMMUNITIES 00:28:33.078 --> 00:28:36.514 THAT MEANWHILE, THE METHODOLOGY, YOU 00:28:36.581 --> 00:28:37.515 KNOW, IS HELPFUL. 00:28:37.582 --> 00:28:39.484 BUT IT'S IT'S NOT REALLY IT'S GOING TO 00:28:39.551 --> 00:28:42.987 TAKE US SO LONG THEN TO REACH THE OTHER SIDE. 00:28:43.054 --> 00:28:46.558 SO IS THERE ANY WILLINGNESS ON BEHALF 00:28:46.624 --> 00:28:48.393 OF THE COUNCIL TO AT LEAST WORK WITH 00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:49.394 THE LEGISLATURE? 00:28:49.461 --> 00:28:51.996 I DID READ IN ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT 00:28:52.063 --> 00:28:54.432 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL HAS ENJOYED THE FACT 00:28:54.499 --> 00:28:56.501 THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR HAS 00:28:56.901 --> 00:28:59.237 ALLOWED IT TO FOLLOW THE METHODOLOGY. 00:28:59.504 --> 00:29:01.673 YOU KNOW THAT IT'S DONE, MEANING I'M GLAD YOU 00:29:01.739 --> 00:29:03.641 GUYS HAVE STAYED OUT OF OUR POT AND LEAVE US 00:29:03.708 --> 00:29:05.310 ALONE AND LET US DO IT. 00:29:05.376 --> 00:29:06.911 THAT'S THE WAY I'D REPHRASE IT, 00:29:07.512 --> 00:29:10.281 BUT I JUST I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD ALSO 00:29:10.348 --> 00:29:13.351 RESPECT THAT WE WORK IN THESE COMMUNITIES. 00:29:13.418 --> 00:29:17.088 WE TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, I'VE WAITED 75 00:29:17.155 --> 00:29:19.057 DAYS FOR A RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER. 00:29:19.124 --> 00:29:21.693 SO MY QUESTION IS, I SAID ALL OF THAT 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.562 TO SAY, IS THERE A WILLINGNESS ON 00:29:24.629 --> 00:29:26.965 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL, IF WE CAN HELP WITH 00:29:27.031 --> 00:29:30.401 ADDITIONAL RESOURCES SO THAT YOU STILL DO 00:29:30.802 --> 00:29:32.971 YOU KNOW THE ONE OFFS FOR PLACER COUNTY THAT 00:29:33.037 --> 00:29:34.939 HELP THEM GET 25%? 00:29:35.173 --> 00:29:38.476 BUT IF WE CAN REACH AND DO MORE, CAN WE GET. 00:29:38.543 --> 00:29:40.712 ARE YOU WILLING TO WORK WITH US THAT 00:29:40.778 --> 00:29:43.214 WHEN WE REACH TO DO MORE, IT CAN HELP GO 00:29:43.281 --> 00:29:46.618 TO THOSE COUNTIES THAT HAVE THE NUMERIC NEED 00:29:47.719 --> 00:29:50.622 BECAUSE WE JUST WE GOT TO BALANCE THIS BETTER. 00:29:53.124 --> 00:29:55.560 SO I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS I CAN'T 00:29:55.627 --> 00:29:57.328 SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL ITSELF, BUT AS 00:29:57.395 --> 00:29:59.164 AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE COUNCIL, 00:29:59.864 --> 00:30:01.533 THE DATA ANALYTICS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.868 WHICH PREPARES THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO 00:30:03.935 --> 00:30:07.205 THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE LISTED ON OUR WORK 00:30:07.272 --> 00:30:08.973 PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO LOOK AT 00:30:09.040 --> 00:30:10.675 THAT PRIORITIZATION METHODOLOGY. 00:30:10.742 --> 00:30:14.579 SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT, YES, WE HEAR FROM BOTH 00:30:15.780 --> 00:30:17.916 COURTS THAT BOTH HAVE A LARGE NUMERIC NEED. 00:30:17.982 --> 00:30:20.919 SO RIVERSIDE OR SAN BERNARDINO, AND YOU HEAR 00:30:20.985 --> 00:30:22.687 FROM YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM THEM SAYING, ALTHOUGH 00:30:22.754 --> 00:30:24.389 THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID, JUDGE, BUT SAYING, 00:30:24.455 --> 00:30:26.524 YOU KNOW, WE WANT MORE OF THESE JUDGES WOULD 00:30:26.591 --> 00:30:28.326 BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE NEED 50 JUDGES. THAT'S 00:30:28.393 --> 00:30:29.360 A BIG NUMBER. 00:30:29.427 --> 00:30:31.529 YOU ALSO HEAR FROM THE SMALLER COURTS. 00:30:31.763 --> 00:30:33.665 UM, YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM LAKE COUNTY, WHICH HAS 00:30:33.731 --> 00:30:35.400 A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE NEED, BUT THEY ONLY 00:30:35.466 --> 00:30:36.467 NEED ONE JUDGE. 00:30:36.534 --> 00:30:38.603 AND SO TRYING TO BALANCE, TO YOUR POINT, 00:30:38.670 --> 00:30:40.638 HOW DO YOU FOR THAT COMMUNITY NEEDING ONE 00:30:40.705 --> 00:30:42.807 JUDGE, WHICH MIGHT BE 50%, IT'S NOT A 50% 00:30:42.874 --> 00:30:45.109 INCREASE, BUT WHATEVER THAT INCREASE IS, YOU 00:30:45.176 --> 00:30:47.078 KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THEY DON'T WANT 00:30:47.145 --> 00:30:48.980 TO FEEL LIKE THEIR NEED AS A SMALLER COMMUNITY 00:30:49.047 --> 00:30:50.048 WON'T BE MET. 00:30:50.114 --> 00:30:52.517 SO WE DO HEAR FROM BOTH OF THOSE ELEMENTS. 00:30:52.584 --> 00:30:55.386 UM, AND, BUT YES, THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR 00:30:55.453 --> 00:30:56.921 QUESTION IS, IS YES. 00:30:56.988 --> 00:30:58.223 ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SIDE, WE 00:30:58.289 --> 00:31:00.124 INTEND TO LOOK AT THAT OVER THE NEXT 1 TO 2 00:31:00.191 --> 00:31:04.596 YEARS, UM, AND INTEND TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATION 00:31:04.662 --> 00:31:05.663 TO THE COUNCIL. 00:31:05.730 --> 00:31:06.965 SO IF THAT HELPS. 00:31:07.031 --> 00:31:08.633 CAN I BUILD UPON MY QUESTION? 00:31:08.700 --> 00:31:10.301 I ALSO READ THAT. 00:31:10.735 --> 00:31:12.737 AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A JUDGE. 00:31:12.804 --> 00:31:13.738 I'M NOT A LAWYER. 00:31:13.805 --> 00:31:16.474 SO I'M DOING THE BEST THAT I CAN ON THIS 00:31:16.541 --> 00:31:17.542 SUBJECT MATTER. 00:31:17.775 --> 00:31:20.878 BUT I ALSO READ SOMEWHERE THAT BASED 00:31:20.945 --> 00:31:23.548 UPON SOME CASES, YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT 00:31:23.615 --> 00:31:27.518 OF TWO JUDGES OR TWO JUSTICES FOR 00:31:27.585 --> 00:31:28.953 A PARTICULAR AREA. 00:31:29.287 --> 00:31:31.756 AND I'M JUST WONDERING, HAVE YOU GUYS ALSO 00:31:31.823 --> 00:31:36.394 EXPLORED MAYBE, UM, SOME OTHER CREATIVE 00:31:36.461 --> 00:31:40.898 WAYS TO HELP SMALLER COURTHOUSES, WHETHER 00:31:40.965 --> 00:31:43.868 IT'S THROUGH REMOTE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH 00:31:43.935 --> 00:31:46.738 SHARING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NEIGHBORING 00:31:46.804 --> 00:31:50.208 AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A SMALLER, UH, MAYBE 00:31:50.275 --> 00:31:52.443 NOT AN EDIFICE LIKE AN OFFICIAL COURTHOUSE, 00:31:52.510 --> 00:31:57.048 BUT MAYBE A MOBILE COURTHOUSE OR SOMETHING 00:31:57.115 --> 00:31:58.116 THAT COULD BE CREATED. 00:31:58.182 --> 00:32:00.885 I KNOW WE'RE USING, UM, UH, WHAT ARE 00:32:00.952 --> 00:32:01.886 THEY CALLED? 00:32:01.953 --> 00:32:06.157 UM, UH, THE, THE BUILDINGS, 00:32:06.224 --> 00:32:08.960 THE OUTDOOR, THE MOBILE. PORTABLE. 00:32:09.027 --> 00:32:10.028 PORTABLE. 00:32:10.495 --> 00:32:11.496 WHAT? 00:32:12.497 --> 00:32:14.799 YES. HAVE. HAVE WE. 00:32:14.866 --> 00:32:16.901 IS THERE A WILLINGNESS OF THE COUNCIL TO 00:32:16.968 --> 00:32:19.704 MAYBE THINK OUT OF THE BOX THAT COULD 00:32:19.771 --> 00:32:23.007 STILL HELP RURAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE I. 00:32:23.074 --> 00:32:26.644 I SUPPORT ALL THE COMMUNITIES TO 00:32:26.711 --> 00:32:28.646 STILL GET THEIR NEEDS MET, BUT MAYBE 00:32:28.713 --> 00:32:31.316 NOT NECESSARILY IN THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF 00:32:31.516 --> 00:32:32.917 OKAY, WE NEED ONE MORE. 00:32:32.984 --> 00:32:35.019 SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE COURTROOM WITH 00:32:35.086 --> 00:32:37.689 ONE JUDGE, AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HEAR X 00:32:37.755 --> 00:32:40.458 AMOUNT OF CASES WHEN MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT 00:32:40.725 --> 00:32:43.628 HOW WE'RE PROVIDING THAT SERVICE DIFFERENTLY. 00:32:44.095 --> 00:32:45.830 BECAUSE I WAS READING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT 00:32:45.897 --> 00:32:49.233 CAN BE 0.3 OR 0.5 OR WHATEVER THAT'S NEEDED. 00:32:49.767 --> 00:32:54.706 HAVE WE HAVE WE LOOKED AT MAYBE HOW WE PROVIDE 00:32:54.772 --> 00:32:58.009 THE SERVICE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS SUCH THAT 00:32:58.076 --> 00:33:00.111 MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE ONE PERSON 00:33:00.178 --> 00:33:01.779 IN THE COURTROOM, BUT THEY'RE STILL 00:33:01.846 --> 00:33:03.214 GETTING THE SERVICE. 00:33:03.448 --> 00:33:05.817 AND THEN THAT WAY, COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE 00:33:05.883 --> 00:33:09.821 THIS HUGE BACKLOG AND ISSUES CAN HAVE 00:33:10.121 --> 00:33:12.857 MORE OF THE SUPPORT THAT WAY OR TRAVELING 00:33:12.924 --> 00:33:14.859 OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 00:33:14.926 --> 00:33:16.994 ARE ARE WE WORKING ON THINKING OUT OF 00:33:17.061 --> 00:33:18.863 THE BOX WITH SOME OF THESE IDEAS? 00:33:19.597 --> 00:33:22.467 SO I THINK, UM, I, I, IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO 00:33:22.533 --> 00:33:25.570 THE TWO JUDGE COURTS, SO LIKE ALPINE COUNTY, 00:33:25.636 --> 00:33:27.638 WHICH HAS NOT A LARGE POPULATION, BUT THEY 00:33:27.705 --> 00:33:29.474 DO HAVE TWO JUDGESHIPS IN ALPINE COUNTY. 00:33:29.540 --> 00:33:31.943 I THINK THOSE ARE THE COUNTIES YOU'RE 00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:33.911 TALKING ABOUT WITH THOSE TWO JUDGES. YES. 00:33:33.978 --> 00:33:37.181 SO, UM, IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE TWO JUDGE 00:33:37.248 --> 00:33:38.783 COURTS ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE CONSTITUTION 00:33:38.850 --> 00:33:40.385 THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO JUDGES IN 00:33:40.451 --> 00:33:41.452 THAT IN THAT COUNTY. 00:33:41.853 --> 00:33:45.857 SO I, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT 00:33:45.923 --> 00:33:48.359 EXTENT THERE'S BEEN ANY DIALOGUE ABOUT CHANGING 00:33:48.426 --> 00:33:50.728 THE CONSTITUTION AROUND THEM HAVING TWO JUDGES. 00:33:51.062 --> 00:33:52.930 I DO KNOW JUST FROM EXPERIENCE THAT 00:33:52.997 --> 00:33:53.931 JUDGES WHO ARE IN. 00:33:53.998 --> 00:33:55.266 I'LL TAKE ALPINE COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW 00:33:55.333 --> 00:33:58.002 THEM, KNOW THIS OF THEM FIRSTHAND. 00:33:58.403 --> 00:34:00.671 THOSE JUDGES WILL GO TO OTHER COUNTIES AND FILL 00:34:00.738 --> 00:34:01.672 IN AND OTHER COURTS. 00:34:01.739 --> 00:34:03.808 SO IF THEY IF THEIR COURTHOUSE IS DARK, THEY 00:34:03.875 --> 00:34:05.810 MIGHT BE GOING TO FILL IN TO NEVADA COUNTY OR 00:34:05.877 --> 00:34:08.479 SOMEPLACE ELSE BASED ON AN ABSENCE OR A VACANCY 00:34:08.546 --> 00:34:09.480 IN THOSE OTHER COUNTIES. 00:34:09.547 --> 00:34:11.616 SO THOSE RESOURCES DO GET SHARED. 00:34:12.417 --> 00:34:14.352 COURTS HAVE RECIPROCAL AGREEMENTS WITH SOME 00:34:14.419 --> 00:34:15.620 OF THEIR NEIGHBORS. 00:34:15.686 --> 00:34:17.822 SO IN THE EVENT THAT THE BENCH HAS TO 00:34:17.889 --> 00:34:20.057 RECUSE ITSELF, CAN'T HEAR A CASE, THEY CAN 00:34:20.124 --> 00:34:22.360 RELY ON A NEIGHBOR TO HANDLE THAT. IF THERE. 00:34:22.693 --> 00:34:24.228 I DON'T KNOW OF MANY COURTS THAT DON'T 00:34:24.295 --> 00:34:25.630 THAT DON'T FILL UP THEIR JUDGE'S DOCKET, 00:34:25.696 --> 00:34:27.799 BUT IF THEY DIDN'T, THERE IS AN ABILITY FOR 00:34:27.865 --> 00:34:29.667 A JUDGE TO GO TO ANOTHER COUNTY AND HELP OUT AT 00:34:29.734 --> 00:34:31.436 THE REQUEST OF THE TWO PRESIDING JUDGES. 00:34:32.370 --> 00:34:34.038 AND IS THAT REFLECTED? 00:34:34.105 --> 00:34:36.507 CAN THAT BE REFLECTED IN THE ROLL UP OF 00:34:36.574 --> 00:34:38.910 THE NEED, THEN, OF SOME OF THOSE ADJOINING 00:34:38.976 --> 00:34:41.679 AND NEIGHBORING UM, COURTS? 00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:43.815 WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT. I THINK BECAUSE 00:34:43.881 --> 00:34:45.650 OF THE PRESUMPTION IN THE CONSTITUTION, 00:34:45.983 --> 00:34:47.418 THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION. 00:34:47.485 --> 00:34:48.586 OKAY. 00:34:48.653 --> 00:34:49.654 YES. 00:34:49.921 --> 00:34:51.789 THERE ALSO IS A PROGRAM CALLED THE ASSIGNED 00:34:51.856 --> 00:34:54.959 JUDGES PROGRAM THAT THE CHIEF, UPON REQUEST 00:34:55.026 --> 00:34:58.429 OF THE COURTS, UM, WILL SEND OFTEN RETIRED 00:34:58.496 --> 00:35:02.166 JUDGES TO THE COUNTIES THAT HAVE NEEDS OF 00:35:02.233 --> 00:35:04.302 WHICH I BELIEVE RIVERSIDE HAS RECEIVED 00:35:04.368 --> 00:35:05.303 THAT KIND OF SUPPORT. 00:35:05.369 --> 00:35:07.839 SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE'RE TRYING AS A BRANCH 00:35:07.905 --> 00:35:10.908 WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, UM, TO HELP MEET 00:35:10.975 --> 00:35:13.377 THE NEED, BUT IT'S CLEARLY NOT CONSISTENT. 00:35:13.578 --> 00:35:15.613 UM, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON HOW, 00:35:15.680 --> 00:35:17.982 YOU KNOW, HOW MANY DAYS THESE, THESE JUDGES CAN 00:35:18.049 --> 00:35:19.383 WORK, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, 00:35:19.450 --> 00:35:21.919 BUT IT FUNDAMENTALLY COMES DOWN TO GETTING 00:35:21.986 --> 00:35:22.920 LARGER NUMBERS. 00:35:22.987 --> 00:35:26.023 THE 13 IS A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER. 00:35:26.090 --> 00:35:27.792 AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS METHODOLOGY 00:35:27.859 --> 00:35:29.227 AND THEY COULD SPEAK TO IT EVEN BETTER THAN 00:35:29.293 --> 00:35:32.396 I CAN, WHICH IS WE WERE LOOKING AT IT IN LARGER 00:35:32.463 --> 00:35:37.335 PIECES, NOT THE 13 BUT 50, YOU KNOW, OUR. 00:35:37.602 --> 00:35:39.303 SO THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THAT AND YOU'RE 00:35:39.370 --> 00:35:41.172 GETTING 50, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO. 00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:42.907 WE'RE GOING TO GET TO YOUR POINT. 00:35:42.974 --> 00:35:45.309 UM, AS FAR AS MEETING EVERYBODY'S 00:35:45.376 --> 00:35:46.377 INITIAL NEED. 00:35:46.577 --> 00:35:48.946 UM, SO, YOU KNOW, 50 WOULD BE ONE THIRD 00:35:49.013 --> 00:35:51.716 OF THE CURRENT LIST, WHEREAS THE 26 THAT 00:35:51.782 --> 00:35:53.851 WERE APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WAS 00:35:53.918 --> 00:35:56.187 AN AMAZING, YOU KNOW, GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT 00:35:56.254 --> 00:35:58.623 THE LEGISLATURE HAS TAKEN TO AUTHORIZE 00:35:58.689 --> 00:35:59.757 ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIPS. 00:35:59.824 --> 00:36:02.360 WE JUST NEED THE FUNDING IN LARGER PIECES. 00:36:02.426 --> 00:36:04.328 BUT WE ARE AGAIN, THANKFUL AND WORKING 00:36:04.395 --> 00:36:06.397 TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE JUDGESHIPS OUT OF 00:36:06.797 --> 00:36:08.766 THE FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET. 00:36:09.033 --> 00:36:09.967 OKAY. 00:36:10.034 --> 00:36:12.370 I'M WILLING TO FIGHT FOR THE FUNDING. 00:36:12.803 --> 00:36:14.805 I'M JUST WILLING TO FIGHT FOR THE FUNDING 00:36:14.872 --> 00:36:16.641 IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY 00:36:16.707 --> 00:36:19.277 IN OUR METHODOLOGY, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:21.979 BECAUSE AGAIN, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 00:36:22.046 --> 00:36:25.416 BUT I ALSO AM SEEKING YOU HEARING WHAT 00:36:25.483 --> 00:36:28.819 I'M SAYING, IN THAT WE CAN'T WAIT FOR 00:36:28.886 --> 00:36:31.956 THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE STATE 00:36:32.023 --> 00:36:34.525 TO HAVE TO WAIT EIGHT YEARS TO GET AT THEIR 00:36:34.592 --> 00:36:38.029 100%, WHILE FIVE OTHER COUNTIES GET TO THEIR 00:36:38.095 --> 00:36:40.731 100% IN YEAR 1 OR 2. 00:36:40.932 --> 00:36:43.134 IT JUST ISN'T IT. 00:36:43.200 --> 00:36:46.571 IT JUST IS NOT THE BEST USE OF OUR INVESTMENT. 00:36:46.637 --> 00:36:49.106 SO AS LONG AS THERE'S AN OPENNESS 00:36:49.173 --> 00:36:50.241 TO WORK WITH US. 00:36:50.308 --> 00:36:52.443 I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT LATER IN THIS 00:36:52.510 --> 00:36:53.778 HEARING, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 00:36:53.844 --> 00:36:56.914 FACILITIES, AND YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT. 00:36:57.114 --> 00:37:00.184 BUT I'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT A PART OF HAVING 00:37:00.251 --> 00:37:02.486 MORE JUDGES IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 00:37:02.553 --> 00:37:05.222 HAVE THE FACILITIES, WE HAVE THE COURTHOUSES, WE 00:37:05.289 --> 00:37:07.625 HAVE ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT'S REQUIRED. 00:37:07.692 --> 00:37:10.962 SO I REALIZE IT'S A MULTI-PRONGED THING. 00:37:11.329 --> 00:37:14.298 UM, BUT I'M JUST HOPING AND ONE OF THE ASKS 00:37:14.365 --> 00:37:15.766 THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE AT THE END OF THIS 00:37:15.833 --> 00:37:19.604 HEARING IS THAT WE REALLY COME TO THE TABLE 00:37:19.670 --> 00:37:21.639 WHEN WE DO A FOLLOW UP OF THIS, THAT WE COME 00:37:21.706 --> 00:37:24.642 TO THE TABLE WITH SOME IDEAS, SOME SHORT TERM, 00:37:24.709 --> 00:37:26.410 MID TERM, LONG TERM WAYS. 00:37:26.477 --> 00:37:28.245 BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK, LET'S SAY, AT 00:37:28.312 --> 00:37:32.550 A COUNTY AND SAY, IN ORDER FOR US TO DO, 00:37:32.984 --> 00:37:37.321 LET'S SAY 12 OR 15 OR 20, UM, JUDGES IN 00:37:37.388 --> 00:37:39.824 THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE STATE, 00:37:39.890 --> 00:37:41.626 WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW COURTHOUSE. 00:37:41.692 --> 00:37:44.428 AND IN ORDER FOR US TO DO A NEW COURTHOUSE 00:37:44.495 --> 00:37:46.797 THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US 5 TO 10 YEARS. 00:37:46.864 --> 00:37:48.366 SO IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE US FIVE, TEN 00:37:48.432 --> 00:37:50.267 YEARS, WELL, WHY DON'T WE GIVE THEM TO 00:37:50.334 --> 00:37:51.869 THESE OTHER COUNTIES? 00:37:51.936 --> 00:37:53.838 AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, THOUGH, THAT 00:37:53.904 --> 00:37:55.439 CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. 00:37:55.640 --> 00:37:58.175 WE DON'T GET THEN THAT NEW COURTHOUSE WHERE 00:37:58.242 --> 00:38:00.811 IT TAKES TEN, 20, 30 YEARS TO GET IT. 00:38:00.878 --> 00:38:04.081 AND BY THEN THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED 00:38:04.415 --> 00:38:05.883 THE SUPPORT ARE STILL WAITING. 00:38:05.950 --> 00:38:09.487 AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM, YOU 00:38:09.553 --> 00:38:12.456 KNOW, ONLY ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT AND BEGIN 00:38:12.523 --> 00:38:15.760 TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAN WE FIGURE THIS OUT TO 00:38:15.826 --> 00:38:18.029 ADDRESS THE PROBLEM? YES. 00:38:19.263 --> 00:38:21.399 TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THOSE THINGS. AND AS MR. 00:38:21.465 --> 00:38:24.135 CHATTER SAID, WE ARE OPEN AND LOOKING FOR 00:38:24.201 --> 00:38:27.138 THE PARTNERSHIP TO TO EXPAND ACCESS. 00:38:27.204 --> 00:38:28.172 ABSOLUTELY. 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.240 OKAY. 00:38:29.607 --> 00:38:30.608 UM, YES. 00:38:30.808 --> 00:38:33.577 YES. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT 00:38:33.644 --> 00:38:36.647 THE LEGISLATURE ALWAYS RETAINS THE ABILITY TO 00:38:36.714 --> 00:38:39.183 ALLOCATE JUDGESHIPS BY CHANGING STATUTE 00:38:39.250 --> 00:38:41.218 AND DETERMINING SPECIFICALLY WHERE 00:38:41.285 --> 00:38:42.219 THEY GO. 00:38:42.286 --> 00:38:45.623 AS YOU'RE NO DOUBT AWARE, THAT'S A POWER 00:38:45.690 --> 00:38:47.124 THAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES HAVE. 00:38:47.925 --> 00:38:49.760 THANK YOU FOR TELLING MR. CHATTERS THAT. 00:38:49.827 --> 00:38:52.329 I DIDN'T WANT TO POP HIS BUBBLE OF HIM THROWING 00:38:52.396 --> 00:38:54.732 THE CONSTITUTION AT ME, FOR HIM NOT TO KNOW THAT 00:38:54.799 --> 00:38:59.870 WE CAN STILL DO IT, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. 00:38:59.937 --> 00:39:01.472 AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 00:39:01.706 --> 00:39:02.707 YEAH. THANK YOU. 00:39:03.174 --> 00:39:04.475 UM, SENATOR REYES. 00:39:04.875 --> 00:39:06.577 THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I SINCERELY 00:39:06.644 --> 00:39:09.680 APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS AND THIS CONVERSATION. 00:39:10.114 --> 00:39:12.750 UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S 00:39:12.817 --> 00:39:14.485 THE INLAND EMPIRE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 00:39:14.552 --> 00:39:15.986 THE GREATEST NEED, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 00:39:16.053 --> 00:39:17.054 THE INLAND EMPIRE. 00:39:17.121 --> 00:39:18.322 WE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING. 00:39:18.389 --> 00:39:20.191 AND THAT IS WHY THERE'S GREAT INTEREST 00:39:20.257 --> 00:39:22.626 FOR MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES, SENATOR 00:39:23.194 --> 00:39:26.897 AND SENATOR CERVANTES, IN IN TRYING TO FIND 00:39:26.964 --> 00:39:30.868 WAYS THAT TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT NEED 00:39:30.935 --> 00:39:31.936 JUSTICE. 00:39:32.236 --> 00:39:33.971 UM, AND THOSE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT 00:39:34.038 --> 00:39:36.774 QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE REALLY ALLOCATE THIS. 00:39:36.841 --> 00:39:39.643 AND YES, THE LEGISLATURE DOES HAVE THE ABILITY 00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:42.513 TO, TO, TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION. 00:39:42.580 --> 00:39:45.015 AND, UM, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET 00:39:45.082 --> 00:39:48.719 AS WELL, THE SPECIAL REQUESTS, UM, WE DO 00:39:48.786 --> 00:39:52.957 WANT TO FIND A WAY THAT IS, UM, THAT PROVIDES 00:39:53.023 --> 00:39:55.559 THE GREATEST EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF 00:39:55.626 --> 00:39:57.995 CALIFORNIA. ALSO, I. 00:39:59.096 --> 00:40:00.397 ONE QUESTION THAT I. 00:40:00.464 --> 00:40:02.933 THAT I DID HAVE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.135 THE MOBILE COURTROOMS. 00:40:04.602 --> 00:40:07.071 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF OUR COURTROOMS DO 00:40:07.138 --> 00:40:08.439 HAVE A MOBILE UNIT. 00:40:08.506 --> 00:40:10.474 I DO KNOW THAT SAN BERNARDINO DOES. 00:40:10.541 --> 00:40:11.675 I FORGET THE NAME OF IT. 00:40:12.910 --> 00:40:14.779 JUSTICE AND MOTION. YES. 00:40:14.845 --> 00:40:16.413 JIM. THE. JIM. MOBILE. 00:40:16.914 --> 00:40:19.150 AND THAT JUSTICE IN MOTION. 00:40:19.216 --> 00:40:22.286 AND THEY DO GO OUT TO THE MORE RURAL AREAS OF 00:40:22.353 --> 00:40:25.222 SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY AND PROVIDE SERVICES. 00:40:25.556 --> 00:40:28.459 UM, WHICH I THINK IS IT'S VERY INNOVATIVE 00:40:28.526 --> 00:40:30.361 AND I HOPE MORE OF OUR COUNTIES ARE 00:40:30.427 --> 00:40:31.562 DOING THE SAME THING. 00:40:32.096 --> 00:40:34.431 ANOTHER IS ANNUITANT JUDGES. 00:40:34.498 --> 00:40:35.833 IS THIS THE SAME THING THAT WE WERE TALKING 00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:36.901 ABOUT EARLIER? 00:40:37.401 --> 00:40:41.071 MANY OF MY MY FRIENDS WHO RETIRED AS JUDGES 00:40:41.138 --> 00:40:42.273 ARE NOW ANNUITANTS. 00:40:42.339 --> 00:40:46.310 AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT HELP TO TO OUR SYSTEM 00:40:46.911 --> 00:40:48.312 TO HAVE THE ANNUITANTS COME BACK. 00:40:48.379 --> 00:40:50.314 THEY HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. 00:40:50.614 --> 00:40:52.082 UM, THEY. 00:40:52.149 --> 00:40:54.552 THEIR HOURS ARE LIMITED, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THEM. 00:40:54.919 --> 00:40:56.787 UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THEIR ENTIRE 00:40:56.854 --> 00:40:58.122 LIFE IN THE COURTROOM. 00:40:58.189 --> 00:40:59.957 AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, 00:41:00.024 --> 00:41:00.991 REALLY GOOD. 00:41:01.058 --> 00:41:06.730 UM, IN THE 2022, UM, ASSESSMENT THAT WAS 00:41:06.797 --> 00:41:10.835 DONE, IT SHOWED THAT SAN BERNARDINO NEEDED 00:41:10.901 --> 00:41:16.540 130 JUDGES AND RIVERSIDE NEEDED 112 JUDGES. 00:41:17.074 --> 00:41:22.947 UM, THE, THE, THE, AND RIVERSIDE HAD HAD 00:41:23.013 --> 00:41:26.851 89 AND SAN BERNARDINO HAD ONE 100. 00:41:26.917 --> 00:41:30.087 AND SO THE NEED THERE WAS ALMOST 31 FOR SAN 00:41:30.154 --> 00:41:33.858 BERNARDINO AND ALMOST 23 FOR RIVERSIDE. 00:41:34.558 --> 00:41:37.828 WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE NOW IN WHEN WE LOOK AT 00:41:37.895 --> 00:41:41.765 THOSE NUMBERS FROM 2022 COMPARED TO THE NUMBERS 00:41:41.832 --> 00:41:45.469 WE HAVE NOW, WHERE BOTH COURTHOUSES HAVE ABOUT 00:41:45.536 --> 00:41:49.573 THE SAME NEED OF 134, ALMOST 135 EACH. TH. 00:41:50.107 --> 00:41:51.108 UM. 00:41:51.775 --> 00:41:54.245 DID RIVERSIDE NOT GET ANY JUDGES THIS 00:41:54.311 --> 00:41:55.312 LAST TIME AROUND? 00:41:58.816 --> 00:41:59.750 ARE YOU LOOKING? 00:41:59.817 --> 00:42:02.086 BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE 45 NEEDED FOR. 00:42:02.152 --> 00:42:04.622 FOR RIVERSIDE, 31 FOR SAN BERNARDINO. 00:42:05.456 --> 00:42:08.525 SO THE UPDATED THE THE DIFFERENCE THERE UM, IS 00:42:08.592 --> 00:42:10.661 NOT JUST ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT EITHER OF THOSE 00:42:10.728 --> 00:42:12.997 JURISDICTIONS RECEIVED ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIPS 00:42:13.063 --> 00:42:14.064 THROUGH FUNDING. 00:42:14.365 --> 00:42:16.066 THE JUDICIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT LOOKS AT 00:42:16.133 --> 00:42:17.968 WHAT ARE THE CHANGES IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH 00:42:18.035 --> 00:42:20.871 TIME EACH TYPE OF CASE TAKES AND WHAT ARE 00:42:20.938 --> 00:42:23.007 THE TRENDS IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUAL FILINGS IN 00:42:23.073 --> 00:42:24.008 THOSE COUNTIES. 00:42:24.074 --> 00:42:25.910 SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE 00:42:25.976 --> 00:42:28.178 IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF JUDICIAL POSITIONS 00:42:28.245 --> 00:42:32.182 NEEDED BETWEEN 2022 AND 2026, NOW THAT IS 00:42:32.249 --> 00:42:35.219 A FACTOR OF A CHANGE IN HOW MUCH JUDICIAL 00:42:35.286 --> 00:42:37.354 TIME IT TAKES FOR EACH TYPE OF CASE 00:42:38.022 --> 00:42:41.725 AND OR THE FILING MIX WITHIN THAT COUNTY. 00:42:41.792 --> 00:42:44.561 SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ANSWER FOR 00:42:44.628 --> 00:42:46.697 WHAT, WHAT IMPACTED THOSE TWO INDIVIDUAL 00:42:46.764 --> 00:42:48.866 COUNTIES ON WHY WENT UP AND DOWN, WHETHER IT WAS 00:42:48.933 --> 00:42:51.502 JUST CASE TYPE CHANGE OR CASE WEIGHT CHANGES OR 00:42:51.568 --> 00:42:53.070 FILING MIX CHANGES. 00:42:53.470 --> 00:42:54.672 BUT THAT IS WHY WE REDO THAT STUDY 00:42:54.738 --> 00:42:55.673 EVERY TWO YEARS. 00:42:55.739 --> 00:42:58.642 BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE UNFORTUNATELY 00:42:58.709 --> 00:42:59.843 FELONY CASES RISE. 00:42:59.910 --> 00:43:01.245 AND SO THAT MEANS THERE'S MORE WORK FOR 00:43:01.312 --> 00:43:02.746 JUDGES OR IT COULD GO. 00:43:02.813 --> 00:43:03.914 HOPEFULLY YOU'RE SEEING THE OPPOSITE 00:43:03.981 --> 00:43:05.382 IN JUVENILE CASES AND THEY'RE GOING DOWN. 00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:06.583 AND SO THERE'S LESS WORK FOR JUDGES. 00:43:06.650 --> 00:43:07.985 AND SO WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT OUT EVERY 00:43:08.052 --> 00:43:09.053 COUPLE OF YEARS. 00:43:09.486 --> 00:43:12.456 WONDERFUL. AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU, JUDGE 00:43:12.523 --> 00:43:13.691 JACKSON, FOR BEING HERE. 00:43:14.024 --> 00:43:17.561 UM, I THINK A VERY KNOWING THAT YOU 00:43:17.628 --> 00:43:21.465 ARE WITH THE 2026, THE COUNTY WITH 00:43:21.532 --> 00:43:25.035 THE GREATEST NEED, UM, OF JUDGES TO HAVE YOU 00:43:25.102 --> 00:43:27.304 HERE WITH US, I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 00:43:27.538 --> 00:43:29.406 UH, YOU PROVIDE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE 00:43:29.473 --> 00:43:32.443 THAT OTHER COUNTIES AREN'T ABLE TO BECAUSE 00:43:32.509 --> 00:43:33.844 IT'S NUMBERS THERE. 00:43:34.178 --> 00:43:35.946 UM, YES, THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT 00:43:36.013 --> 00:43:36.947 NEED TWO JUDGES. 00:43:37.014 --> 00:43:38.349 THEY ONLY HAVE ONE, SO THEY'RE MISSING 00:43:38.415 --> 00:43:39.950 50% OF THE JUDGES. 00:43:40.217 --> 00:43:41.852 UM, AND WE DO HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO 00:43:41.919 --> 00:43:42.853 CONSIDERATION. 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.289 I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT HAVING THE COUNTY 00:43:45.356 --> 00:43:47.658 WITH THE GREATEST NEED HERE, I THINK IS 00:43:47.725 --> 00:43:48.792 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 00:43:48.859 --> 00:43:50.327 I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 00:43:51.395 --> 00:43:53.030 WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. 00:43:53.497 --> 00:43:55.499 WE NOTICE. WE APPRECIATE YOU. 00:43:56.133 --> 00:43:58.435 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 00:43:58.502 --> 00:44:01.638 THANK YOU. UM, BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT PANEL, 00:44:01.705 --> 00:44:04.775 UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU IS THAT, 00:44:04.975 --> 00:44:08.178 UM, THIS, THIS HAPPENED TO ME WHEN I SERVED IN 00:44:08.245 --> 00:44:09.179 CONGRESS. 00:44:09.246 --> 00:44:14.351 I FOUND THAT OFTENTIMES, UM, STAFF OR INDIVIDUALS 00:44:14.418 --> 00:44:18.389 WHO ARE SUPPORTING IN SOME CAPACITY, UM, YOU 00:44:18.455 --> 00:44:21.025 KNOW, THERE'S, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF PLAY BY 00:44:21.091 --> 00:44:22.026 THE RULES. 00:44:22.092 --> 00:44:23.460 AND I NOTICE YOU ALL SAID, YOU KNOW, 00:44:23.527 --> 00:44:25.262 THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE LEGISLATURE 00:44:25.329 --> 00:44:27.631 AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, BUT REALLY, WE 00:44:27.698 --> 00:44:29.700 SHOULD BE DOING A LOT BETTER, FRANKLY. 00:44:29.933 --> 00:44:32.736 AND, UM, YOUR CHIEF JUSTICE ACTUALLY SAID 00:44:32.803 --> 00:44:35.239 THAT TO US, UM, WHEN SHE GAVE THE STATE 00:44:35.305 --> 00:44:38.242 OF THE JUDICIARY TO THE LEGISLATURE. 00:44:38.308 --> 00:44:40.577 AND SO WHAT I WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU TO DO IS 00:44:40.644 --> 00:44:44.148 WHEN YOU COME BEFORE US, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW 00:44:44.214 --> 00:44:46.717 IT'S NOT VERY POPULAR, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT 00:44:46.784 --> 00:44:49.853 YOU NEED AND WE NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT. 00:44:50.087 --> 00:44:51.155 THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. 00:44:51.555 --> 00:44:54.558 IF IF WE DIDN'T CARE OR WANT TO DO IT, WE 00:44:54.625 --> 00:44:55.559 WOULDN'T BE HERE. 00:44:55.626 --> 00:44:57.194 WE'D BE WORKING ON THE OTHER 50 MILLION 00:44:57.261 --> 00:44:58.829 THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. 00:44:58.896 --> 00:45:01.632 BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM. 00:45:01.698 --> 00:45:04.368 AND SO WE'LL BE SUBMITTING SUBSEQUENT 00:45:04.635 --> 00:45:05.736 QUESTIONS ALSO. 00:45:05.803 --> 00:45:07.738 THE OTHER SENATORS, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE FOLLOW 00:45:07.805 --> 00:45:12.276 UP QUESTIONS, BUT PLEASE ANSWER THEM TRUTHFULLY. 00:45:12.576 --> 00:45:14.978 AND I KNOW YOU DO YOU TAKE AN OATH TO DO THAT? 00:45:15.045 --> 00:45:17.381 BUT MAYBE TRUTHFULLY IS NOT THE WORD. 00:45:17.448 --> 00:45:21.318 PLEASE NOT FEEL INHIBITED BY OUR ROLES. 00:45:21.652 --> 00:45:24.488 AND PLEASE TELL US WHAT YOU NEED AND HOW 00:45:24.555 --> 00:45:27.157 WE GET THERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THERE. 00:45:27.825 --> 00:45:30.828 FRANKLY, WE HAVE TO GET THERE BECAUSE AT 00:45:30.894 --> 00:45:35.132 THIS PACE, I WAS WHEN I READ THAT, I THINK 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:40.971 IT WAS IN 2007, 50 WERE AUTHORIZED. 00:45:41.305 --> 00:45:44.341 UM, IT TOOK TO 2009, MAYBE TWO 00:45:44.408 --> 00:45:45.609 WERE THEN FUNDED. 00:45:46.276 --> 00:45:50.047 THEN IT WENT INTO 2018, 2019 TO 2022, 00:45:50.114 --> 00:45:52.449 BEFORE HALF OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY FUNDED. 00:45:52.716 --> 00:45:54.151 THEN THAT SUBSEQUENT YEAR WE 00:45:54.218 --> 00:45:56.053 HAD THE OTHER 50%. 00:45:56.286 --> 00:46:00.090 WE CAN'T SPEND WE AS A LEGISLATURE, CANNOT 00:46:00.157 --> 00:46:04.895 TAKE 20 YEARS TO FILL HALF OF THE JUDGESHIPS 00:46:04.962 --> 00:46:05.896 THAT YOU NEED. 00:46:05.963 --> 00:46:07.631 THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK, AND THAT'S 00:46:07.698 --> 00:46:08.699 WHY WE'RE HERE. 00:46:08.765 --> 00:46:11.502 SO WE REALLY NEED YOU TO WORK WITH US. 00:46:11.568 --> 00:46:15.706 TELL US, HELP US TO UNDERSTAND, BE FLEXIBLE 00:46:15.772 --> 00:46:18.876 IN HOW YOU THINK OF HOW WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES 00:46:18.942 --> 00:46:21.512 SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE OF THIS NUMBER. 00:46:21.578 --> 00:46:23.647 AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE 00:46:23.714 --> 00:46:24.815 YOU TO DO THAT. 00:46:24.882 --> 00:46:27.518 UH, WITH THAT, PLEASE DON'T SNEAK AWAY EVEN 00:46:27.584 --> 00:46:29.419 THOUGH YOUR PART IS DONE BECAUSE WE WILL 00:46:29.486 --> 00:46:33.157 BE COVERING FACILITIES AND BECAUSE FACILITIES 00:46:33.223 --> 00:46:36.493 HAS A LARGE PART IN HOW JUDGES ARE ALLOTTED. 00:46:36.693 --> 00:46:38.228 THERE MAY BE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 00:46:38.295 --> 00:46:39.830 SO IF YOU DON'T MIND STICKING AROUND, 00:46:39.897 --> 00:46:41.365 WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. 00:46:41.932 --> 00:46:42.933 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 00:46:45.202 --> 00:46:46.203 WE WILL NOW. 00:46:55.412 --> 00:46:57.314 NOW WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO OUR SECOND 00:46:57.381 --> 00:46:59.850 PANEL, WHICH IS JUDICIAL SALARIES. 00:47:00.284 --> 00:47:01.852 WITH THAT, PANELISTS, PLEASE 00:47:01.919 --> 00:47:02.853 COME TO THE TABLE. 00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.255 WE'LL AGAIN START WITH MR. 00:47:05.322 --> 00:47:07.457 SODERBERGH FROM THE LEGISLATIVE 00:47:07.524 --> 00:47:09.826 ANALYST'S OFFICE, FOLLOWED BY JUDGE 00:47:09.893 --> 00:47:13.130 WALTON AND JUDGE VALLEJO HERE ON BEHALF 00:47:13.197 --> 00:47:15.699 OF THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES ASSOCIATION. 00:47:15.966 --> 00:47:18.135 AND THEN WE WILL HAVE JUSTICE HILL. 00:47:18.835 --> 00:47:21.505 AND STILL FROM THE BUDGET SIDE, MR. 00:47:21.572 --> 00:47:24.241 Z WILL BE HERE TO JOIN US. 00:47:26.977 --> 00:47:29.379 WE WILL START WITH MR. SODERBERGH. 00:47:29.813 --> 00:47:31.048 DREW SODERBERGH LEGISLATIVE 00:47:31.114 --> 00:47:32.049 ANALYST'S OFFICE. 00:47:32.115 --> 00:47:34.318 IF YOU TURN TO PAGE THREE OF YOUR HANDOUT, 00:47:34.384 --> 00:47:37.287 YOU'LL SEE A DISCUSSION OF SALARIES FOR TRIAL 00:47:37.354 --> 00:47:38.355 COURT JUDGES. 00:47:38.622 --> 00:47:41.525 UM. STATUTE ESTABLISHES JUDGES 00:47:41.592 --> 00:47:44.895 SALARIES AND GOVERNS THEIR ANNUAL RAISES. 00:47:45.429 --> 00:47:46.964 THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN 00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:50.467 RESOURCES, ALSO KNOWN AS CAL HR, CALCULATES 00:47:50.534 --> 00:47:53.637 ANNUAL INCREASES IN JUDGES SALARIES, WHICH 00:47:53.704 --> 00:47:56.173 BECOME EFFECTIVE ON JULY 1ST. 00:47:56.607 --> 00:47:59.142 THE FORMULA USED TO CALCULATE THEM IS TIED 00:47:59.209 --> 00:48:02.045 TO THE AVERAGE ANNUAL SALARY INCREASE RECEIVED 00:48:02.112 --> 00:48:03.447 BY STATE EMPLOYEES. 00:48:04.147 --> 00:48:05.849 LOOKING AT BASE SALARY ALONE, 00:48:06.049 --> 00:48:08.485 CALIFORNIA JUDGES ARE AMONG THE MOST HIGHLY 00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.321 PAID IN THE NATION, WITH ONLY FOUR STATES 00:48:11.388 --> 00:48:13.190 AND JURISDICTIONS PAYING MORE. 00:48:13.590 --> 00:48:16.493 HOWEVER, ONCE AND THIS IS ACCORDING TO 00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:18.695 AN ANALYSIS CARRIED OUT BY THE NATIONAL CENTER 00:48:18.762 --> 00:48:19.730 FOR STATE COURTS. 00:48:19.796 --> 00:48:22.132 HOWEVER, ONCE COST OF LIVING IS FACTORED 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.469 IN, CALIFORNIA MOVES FROM FIFTH TO 28TH IN 00:48:25.535 --> 00:48:26.536 THE NATION. 00:48:26.603 --> 00:48:29.106 ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE FIGURE 00:48:29.172 --> 00:48:31.441 TRIAL, COURT JUDGES SALARIES HAVE GROWN AT 00:48:31.508 --> 00:48:34.244 A RELATIVELY SLOW RATE AND HAVE NOT KEPT UP 00:48:34.311 --> 00:48:35.812 WITH PRICE INCREASES. 00:48:36.046 --> 00:48:38.148 SPECIFICALLY, WHILE SALARIES HAVE 00:48:38.215 --> 00:48:40.984 INCREASED BY 26% OVER THE LAST DECADE. 00:48:41.051 --> 00:48:43.186 THE CALIFORNIA CONSUMER PRICE INDEX 00:48:43.253 --> 00:48:46.990 OVER THAT TIME PERIOD HAS INCREASED BY 33%. 00:48:47.491 --> 00:48:50.727 UM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, HOWEVER, THAT 00:48:50.794 --> 00:48:53.063 THIS JUST FOCUSES ON THE BASE SALARIES. 00:48:53.130 --> 00:48:55.465 THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT GIVE TRIAL COURT 00:48:55.532 --> 00:48:57.801 JUDGES ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT CAN 00:48:57.868 --> 00:48:59.269 CONTRIBUTE TO SALARY. 00:48:59.603 --> 00:49:02.773 UM THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL LAST FORMALLY STUDIED 00:49:02.839 --> 00:49:06.009 COUNTY SUPPLEMENTAL SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFITS 00:49:06.076 --> 00:49:07.010 IN 2009. 00:49:07.077 --> 00:49:09.246 SO OUR INFORMATION IS SOMEWHAT DATED HERE. 00:49:09.646 --> 00:49:12.649 UM, IT FOUND AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT 90% 00:49:12.716 --> 00:49:15.085 OF TRIAL COURT JUDGES SERVED IN COUNTIES THAT 00:49:15.152 --> 00:49:18.255 PROVIDED SOME SORT OF SUPPLEMENTAL BENEFIT. 00:49:18.755 --> 00:49:22.259 FOR EXAMPLE, AS OF 2015, LOS ANGELES COUNTY 00:49:22.326 --> 00:49:24.761 CONTRIBUTED FUNDS TO ALLOW TRIAL COURT JUDGES 00:49:24.828 --> 00:49:27.531 TO PURCHASE MEDICAL, DENTAL, VISION COVERAGE 00:49:27.597 --> 00:49:30.801 OR LIFE AND DISABILITY SERVICES OR INSURANCE. 00:49:30.867 --> 00:49:32.936 AND ANY FUNDS NOT USED TO PURCHASE THESE 00:49:33.003 --> 00:49:35.706 BENEFITS COULD BE RETAINED BY THE JUDGES 00:49:35.772 --> 00:49:37.774 AS SUPPLEMENTS TO THEIR SALARY. 00:49:37.841 --> 00:49:39.343 AT THAT POINT, IT AMOUNTED TO 00:49:39.409 --> 00:49:41.345 57,000 ANNUALLY. 00:49:42.045 --> 00:49:44.381 OTHER COUNTIES, HOWEVER, MIGHT OFFER DIFFERENT 00:49:44.448 --> 00:49:47.451 SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFITS, SUCH AS A GYM STIPEND OR 00:49:47.517 --> 00:49:48.685 PARKING ALLOWANCES. 00:49:48.752 --> 00:49:50.921 AND AT THE TIME OF THE 2009 STUDY, THERE 00:49:50.987 --> 00:49:52.656 WERE SOME COUNTIES THAT DIDN'T OFFER ANY 00:49:52.723 --> 00:49:54.991 SUPPLEMENTAL BENEFITS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 00:49:55.225 --> 00:49:57.961 ALPINE, INYO AND SAN BENITO OFFERED NO 00:49:58.028 --> 00:49:59.629 SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFITS. 00:50:00.630 --> 00:50:03.200 IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT 00:50:03.266 --> 00:50:05.202 THE PAY STRUCTURE HAS BEEN SUBJECT 00:50:05.268 --> 00:50:08.372 TO LITIGATION, SO A LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST 00:50:08.438 --> 00:50:11.408 THE STATE IN 2014 ARGUED THAT THE STATE 00:50:11.475 --> 00:50:14.544 WRONGFULLY WITHHELD SALARY INCREASES FROM 00:50:14.611 --> 00:50:18.081 TRIAL COURT JUDGES BETWEEN 2008 AND 2013, 00:50:18.281 --> 00:50:21.785 AND A COURT ULTIMATELY ISSUED A $40 MILLION 00:50:21.852 --> 00:50:24.087 JUDGMENT AGAINST THE STATE IN THAT CASE. 00:50:24.287 --> 00:50:26.490 CURRENTLY, THERE IS LITIGATION ONGOING 00:50:26.556 --> 00:50:27.758 ON THIS TOPIC. 00:50:28.024 --> 00:50:31.895 UH, A LAWSUIT WAS FILED IN 2024 ARGUING 00:50:31.962 --> 00:50:35.098 THAT CALPERS FORMULA FOR CALCULATING 00:50:35.165 --> 00:50:38.635 ANNUAL INCREASES, INAPPROPRIATELY EXCLUDED 00:50:38.702 --> 00:50:41.538 TARGETED WAGE INCREASES, AND THAT LITIGATION 00:50:41.605 --> 00:50:42.739 REMAINS ONGOING. 00:50:42.806 --> 00:50:44.174 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT 00:50:44.241 --> 00:50:45.242 THE APPROPRIATE TIME. 00:50:46.376 --> 00:50:49.880 THANK YOU, HONORABLE JUDGE LAURA WALTON. 00:50:50.781 --> 00:50:55.552 THANK YOU. I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE CHAIR, 00:50:55.619 --> 00:50:59.122 SENATOR RICHARDSON AND SENATOR GOMEZ 00:50:59.189 --> 00:51:03.527 REYES FOR YOUR SUPPORT, CONSTANT SUPPORT TO 00:51:03.593 --> 00:51:04.694 THE JUDICIARY. 00:51:05.095 --> 00:51:06.897 AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US 00:51:06.963 --> 00:51:08.365 TO APPEAR TODAY. 00:51:08.832 --> 00:51:11.535 UM, I'M LAURA WALTON, JUDGE OF THE LOS 00:51:11.601 --> 00:51:14.204 ANGELES SUPERIOR COURT, BUT I'M APPEARING TODAY 00:51:14.404 --> 00:51:17.374 IN THE CAPACITY OF THE VICE PRESIDENT OF 00:51:17.441 --> 00:51:19.709 THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES ASSOCIATION. 00:51:22.546 --> 00:51:26.049 FOR THE PAST 19 YEARS, JUDGES HAVE HAD TO 00:51:26.116 --> 00:51:30.353 RELY ON GOVERNMENT CODE 68 203 FOR THEIR 00:51:30.420 --> 00:51:33.323 JUDICIAL SALARIES TO KEEP PACE WITH 00:51:33.390 --> 00:51:37.127 INFLATION, AND DURING THAT TIME INFLATION HAS 00:51:37.194 --> 00:51:40.597 INCREASED 60%, WHILE JUDICIAL SALARIES HAVE 00:51:40.664 --> 00:51:42.899 ONLY INCREASED 35%. 00:51:43.099 --> 00:51:44.801 AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS NOT 00:51:44.868 --> 00:51:48.738 INTENTIONAL, BUT YET IT HAS OCCURRED OVER 00:51:48.805 --> 00:51:52.075 THE PAST 19 YEARS. 00:51:52.576 --> 00:51:56.079 THE LAST TIME THERE'S BEEN A GAP 00:51:56.146 --> 00:51:59.483 IN INFLATION AS WELL AS JUDICIAL SALARIES, 00:51:59.816 --> 00:52:02.686 WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION. 00:52:03.220 --> 00:52:06.523 AND IN 2001, THE LEGISLATURE 00:52:06.590 --> 00:52:07.524 STEPPED IN. 00:52:07.591 --> 00:52:12.162 THEY GAVE JUDGES AN UNSCHEDULED 8.5% 00:52:12.462 --> 00:52:13.930 INCREASE IN PAY. 00:52:13.997 --> 00:52:18.401 AND THEN AGAIN IN 2007, THE LEGISLATURE STEPPED 00:52:18.468 --> 00:52:24.074 IN AND GAVE JUDGES ANOTHER 8.5% INCREASE 00:52:24.140 --> 00:52:28.044 IN PAY SO THAT JUDGES PAY COULD STAY IN TUNE 00:52:28.111 --> 00:52:29.279 WITH INFLATION. 00:52:29.346 --> 00:52:33.650 HOWEVER, SINCE 2007, JUDGES HAVE HAD 00:52:33.717 --> 00:52:37.254 TO RELY SOLELY ON GOVERNMENT CODE 68 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.892 203 FOR ANY SALARY INCREASES, AND JUDGES 00:52:41.958 --> 00:52:44.361 DID NOT RECEIVE A SALARY INCREASE IN 00:52:44.427 --> 00:52:48.598 2025 OR 2026. 00:52:49.065 --> 00:52:51.568 AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE AT THIS TIME RECEIVING 00:52:51.635 --> 00:52:55.238 1 IN 2027 BASED ON GOVERNMENT CODE, 00:52:55.305 --> 00:52:57.774 SECTION 68 203. 00:52:57.841 --> 00:52:59.910 AND ANOTHER COMPARISON I WOULD LIKE TO POINT 00:52:59.976 --> 00:53:03.914 OUT IS WHEN YOU COMPARE JUDGES SALARIES WITH 00:53:03.980 --> 00:53:06.616 THOSE OF PUBLIC ATTORNEYS, AND WE'RE NOT 00:53:06.683 --> 00:53:08.685 TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE ATTORNEYS THAT WORK IN 00:53:08.752 --> 00:53:11.688 THE BIG FIRMS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE FIRST YEAR 00:53:11.755 --> 00:53:15.892 ASSOCIATES START OUT AT 250,000 OR MORE, WHICH 00:53:15.959 --> 00:53:17.494 IS MORE THAN A JUDGE MAKE. 00:53:17.827 --> 00:53:19.195 AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT 00:53:19.262 --> 00:53:22.132 THE ELECTED PUBLIC ATTORNEYS LIKE 00:53:22.198 --> 00:53:25.101 THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER 00:53:25.335 --> 00:53:27.203 OF VARIOUS COUNTIES. 00:53:27.270 --> 00:53:30.040 BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW COMPARISONS. 00:53:30.106 --> 00:53:33.176 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SALARIES OF 00:53:33.243 --> 00:53:36.980 THE SENIOR ATTORNEYS IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S 00:53:37.047 --> 00:53:39.482 AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICES, THOSE THAT 00:53:39.549 --> 00:53:42.819 RUN THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, THEY MAKE 00:53:42.886 --> 00:53:45.255 MORE THAN WE DO AS JUDGES. 00:53:45.622 --> 00:53:47.757 AND IF YOU LOOK AT COUNTIES SUCH AS LOS 00:53:47.824 --> 00:53:51.828 ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, SAN FRANCISCO AREA, 00:53:52.062 --> 00:53:56.600 ALAMEDA JUDGES THERE, I'M SORRY, THE SENIOR 00:53:56.666 --> 00:54:00.337 ATTORNEYS THERE MAKE ANYWHERE FROM 35% OR 00:54:00.403 --> 00:54:04.074 MORE THAN WE DO AS JUDICIAL OFFICERS. 00:54:04.541 --> 00:54:07.043 AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S 00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:09.245 IN THE BIG CITY AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 00:54:09.312 --> 00:54:11.982 THE MARKET BECAUSE ATTORNEYS GET PAID SO 00:54:12.048 --> 00:54:14.751 MUCH IN LOS ANGELES, IN THE BIG CITY. 00:54:14.818 --> 00:54:16.786 WE EVEN MADE THE COMPARISON FOR 00:54:16.853 --> 00:54:20.290 SOME OF THE MID-SIZED COUNTIES LIKE MONTEREY, 00:54:20.523 --> 00:54:25.261 SOLANO, NAPA, AND STILL THE SENIOR ATTORNEYS IN 00:54:25.328 --> 00:54:27.564 THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND PUBLIC DEFENDER'S 00:54:27.631 --> 00:54:33.403 OFFICE STILL MAKE 21% TO 10% MORE THAN WE DO 00:54:33.670 --> 00:54:36.573 AS JUDICIAL OFFICERS IN SAN FRANCISCO. 00:54:37.140 --> 00:54:39.876 MOST OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS MAKE MORE 00:54:39.943 --> 00:54:41.244 THAN WE DO AS JUDGES. 00:54:42.245 --> 00:54:45.081 HALF OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS MAKE MORE 00:54:45.148 --> 00:54:48.018 THAN WE DO AS JUDGES, AND A THIRD OF 00:54:48.084 --> 00:54:50.787 THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS MAKE MORE THAN WE DO AS 00:54:50.854 --> 00:54:52.489 JUDGES IN SAN FRANCISCO. 00:54:53.390 --> 00:54:59.829 AND THIS HAS STARTED TO AFFECT OUR ABILITY, 00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:03.199 HONESTLY, AS JUDICIAL OFFICERS, TO RETAIN 00:55:03.266 --> 00:55:05.235 EXCELLENT JUDGES. 00:55:05.769 --> 00:55:08.238 AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES, 00:55:08.304 --> 00:55:10.707 20 JUDGES LEFT. 00:55:10.774 --> 00:55:13.710 LOS ANGELES COUNTY LEFT THE BENCH THIS YEAR. 00:55:13.777 --> 00:55:15.945 MANY OF THOSE WERE APPOINTEES BY 00:55:16.012 --> 00:55:19.582 BROWN AND NEWSOM IN SAN FRANCISCO. 00:55:19.849 --> 00:55:23.219 ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX JUDGES, ONE OUT OF EVERY 00:55:23.286 --> 00:55:27.457 SIX HAS LESS THAN A YEAR OF JUDICIAL EXPERIENCE 00:55:27.524 --> 00:55:31.594 ON THE BENCH, AND TWO JUDGES IN RIVERSIDE LEFT 00:55:31.661 --> 00:55:34.264 BEFORE THEIR PENSIONS EVEN VESTED. 00:55:34.764 --> 00:55:38.668 AND THEY ARE LEAVING TO GO DO OTHER JOBS THAT 00:55:38.735 --> 00:55:40.336 MAKE THEM MORE MONEY. 00:55:40.570 --> 00:55:42.872 AND IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE WE HAVE 00:55:42.939 --> 00:55:46.042 SOME OF THE MOST DIVERSE JUDICIARY IN 00:55:46.109 --> 00:55:49.179 THE COUNTRY, WHICH REFLECTS THE CITIZENS 00:55:49.245 --> 00:55:50.447 OF CALIFORNIA. 00:55:50.647 --> 00:55:53.216 THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE STARTING TO LEAVE 00:55:53.450 --> 00:55:56.886 BECAUSE THEIR SALARIES ARE LAGGING BEHIND. 00:55:56.953 --> 00:55:58.288 AND THIS IS NOT NEW. 00:55:58.688 --> 00:56:00.690 THIS REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING NEW. 00:56:00.990 --> 00:56:03.159 IF WE EVEN LOOK BACK, I'LL GO BACK. 00:56:03.226 --> 00:56:07.030 JUST AS FAR AS 1960, THE LEGISLATURE SET 00:56:07.097 --> 00:56:10.600 JUDICIAL SALARIES TO GO WITH THE COST OF LIVING. 00:56:10.667 --> 00:56:13.903 AND THEN WHEN THAT FELL BEHIND, CV STILL 00:56:13.970 --> 00:56:15.538 FELL BEHIND INFLATION. 00:56:15.939 --> 00:56:20.176 THEY RESET OUR JUDICIAL SALARIES IN STATUTE IN 00:56:20.243 --> 00:56:25.749 1980 AND THEN IN 2000, AS I'VE DISCUSSED, THEY 00:56:25.815 --> 00:56:29.052 GAVE US AN UNSCHEDULED 2001, AN UNSCHEDULED PAY 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:33.957 INCREASE, AND ANOTHER 1 IN 2007, SO THAT 00:56:34.023 --> 00:56:37.694 JUDICIAL SALARIES WILL STAY IN TUNE WITH 00:56:38.795 --> 00:56:39.796 INFLATION. 00:56:40.163 --> 00:56:44.534 AND SO IT SEEMS TO OCCUR EVERY 20 YEARS OR SO. 00:56:44.901 --> 00:56:47.337 WE, AS JUDICIAL OFFICERS ARE BACK 00:56:47.403 --> 00:56:52.609 HERE AT THE TABLE ASKING THE LEGISLATURE 00:56:52.675 --> 00:56:55.311 TO PLEASE RESET OUR SALARIES. 00:56:55.378 --> 00:56:58.014 IT HASN'T BEEN DONE SINCE THE LAST 00:56:58.214 --> 00:57:00.950 UNSCHEDULED PAY INCREASE IN 2007. 00:57:01.017 --> 00:57:04.220 AND WE'RE ALMOST HERE AT 2027. 00:57:04.420 --> 00:57:07.891 AND WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU WORK WITH US 00:57:08.358 --> 00:57:11.728 SO THAT YOU CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM AND ALLOW 00:57:11.795 --> 00:57:15.265 OUR JUDICIAL SALARIES TO STAY IN TUNE WITH 00:57:15.331 --> 00:57:16.833 THE RATE OF INFLATION. 00:57:17.033 --> 00:57:19.169 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK 00:57:19.235 --> 00:57:21.704 HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES 00:57:21.771 --> 00:57:22.772 ASSOCIATION. 00:57:23.606 --> 00:57:24.674 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 00:57:25.041 --> 00:57:27.277 HONORABLE JUDGE TANIA VALLEJO. 00:57:27.343 --> 00:57:28.378 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 00:57:28.578 --> 00:57:31.581 I'M HERE AS THE SECRETARY TREASURER 00:57:31.648 --> 00:57:34.017 OF THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES ASSOCIATION. 00:57:34.384 --> 00:57:36.586 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE BOTH OF YOU. 00:57:36.853 --> 00:57:39.155 I HEARD YOUR EARLIER REMARKS ABOUT THINKING. 00:57:39.222 --> 00:57:41.591 BUT WHAT I DID WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS ALL 00:57:41.658 --> 00:57:43.526 OF US JUDGES WERE FORMER LAWYERS. 00:57:43.593 --> 00:57:46.496 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ALWAYS 00:57:46.563 --> 00:57:49.699 GRATEFUL FOR WAS THE TIME THAT THAT 00:57:49.766 --> 00:57:52.769 JUDGES GAVE US, WHEN ALL WE WANTED WAS TO 00:57:52.836 --> 00:57:53.770 BE HEARD. 00:57:53.837 --> 00:57:56.940 HAVE A JUDGE THAT WAS PENSIVE AND REFLECTIVE. 00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.943 AND IN OUR EFFORTS, THE BOTH OF YOU HAVE 00:58:00.009 --> 00:58:02.745 GIVEN US THAT TIME, ESPECIALLY THROUGHOUT 00:58:02.812 --> 00:58:04.848 THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, IN OUR EFFORTS. 00:58:05.181 --> 00:58:07.417 AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHY WE ARE SO, 00:58:07.483 --> 00:58:09.219 SO GRATEFUL TODAY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN 00:58:09.285 --> 00:58:10.620 US THIS OPPORTUNITY. 00:58:10.887 --> 00:58:13.489 UM, ALL OF MY ALL OF OUR TIME WAS ALLOTTED 00:58:13.556 --> 00:58:14.490 TO JUDGE WALTON. 00:58:14.557 --> 00:58:15.992 AND SO I'M REALLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY 00:58:16.059 --> 00:58:18.161 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. 00:58:18.494 --> 00:58:19.495 THANK YOU. 00:58:20.196 --> 00:58:23.633 UM, BEFORE, THOUGH I REALIZE YOUR TIME WAS 00:58:23.700 --> 00:58:26.102 ALLOTTED, BUT WE STILL HAVE DISCRETION HERE. 00:58:26.369 --> 00:58:28.271 UM, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM 00:58:28.338 --> 00:58:31.474 A DIVERSITY PERSPECTIVE, UM, HOW IMPORTANT IS 00:58:31.541 --> 00:58:36.646 IT WITH RECRUITMENT TO ATTRACT, UH, WOMEN 00:58:36.713 --> 00:58:41.251 DIVERSITY AND SO ON, UM, TO JUDGESHIP POSITIONS 00:58:41.317 --> 00:58:43.753 IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH THE PAY. 00:58:45.054 --> 00:58:48.858 I CAN SAY THAT, UM, I AM A NEWSOM APPOINTEE. 00:58:49.492 --> 00:58:52.128 AND WHEN I, I WAS A LAWYER, I WAS 00:58:52.195 --> 00:58:53.329 A PUBLIC DEFENDER. 00:58:53.796 --> 00:58:56.366 AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 00:58:56.933 --> 00:58:59.969 I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR SAW IN ME THAT I SHARE 00:59:00.036 --> 00:59:02.505 WITH SO MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE THE FACT 00:59:02.572 --> 00:59:04.841 THAT I'M A NORMAL, REGULAR CALIFORNIAN. 00:59:05.208 --> 00:59:07.176 UH, I HAVE SMALL CHILDREN. 00:59:07.243 --> 00:59:10.480 I HAVE CHALLENGES LIKE CHILDCARE CHALLENGES. 00:59:10.914 --> 00:59:12.382 WE DON'T HYBRID WORK. 00:59:12.448 --> 00:59:14.217 AND SO THOSE ARE REAL CHALLENGES. 00:59:14.284 --> 00:59:16.319 LIKE EVERY CALIFORNIAN THAT COMES BEFORE MY 00:59:16.386 --> 00:59:20.490 COURT, UM, AS A LATINA WOMAN, I CAN TELL YOU 00:59:20.556 --> 00:59:24.160 THAT STATISTICALLY, THERE ARE ONLY 6% OF 00:59:24.227 --> 00:59:27.764 LATINOS GOING THROUGH LAW SCHOOLS AND COMING 00:59:27.830 --> 00:59:29.866 OUT OF LAW SCHOOLS, WHICH MEANS THE PIPELINE 00:59:29.933 --> 00:59:32.902 IS NOT A VERY ROBUST PIPELINE COMING THROUGH 00:59:32.969 --> 00:59:35.238 TO BE APPOINTED AS JUDICIAL OFFICERS. 00:59:35.471 --> 00:59:39.275 MANY TIMES IT IS CHALLENGING TO GET 00:59:39.876 --> 00:59:44.013 WORK WHERE YOU ARE BIG, FIRM WORK. 00:59:44.080 --> 00:59:47.283 AND SO A LOT OF MY MY COLLEAGUES COMING OUT 00:59:47.350 --> 00:59:50.086 OF LAW SCHOOL WERE MIDSIZE FIRMS, OR 00:59:50.153 --> 00:59:52.855 THEY ARE COMING INTO PUBLIC DEFENDER WORK 00:59:52.922 --> 00:59:54.691 OR PROSECUTOR WORK. 00:59:54.757 --> 00:59:57.694 AND SO WHEN YOU ARE FIRST GENERATION LIKE 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.864 I AM AND YOU ARE SADDLED WITH LOANS, LIKE I WAS 01:00:01.931 --> 01:00:04.367 SADDLED WITH LOANS, IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE 01:00:04.434 --> 01:00:06.402 SURE THAT YOU ARE BALANCING CHILD CARE 01:00:06.469 --> 01:00:10.006 NEEDS, REPAYING LOANS, AND YOU REALLY WANT TO 01:00:10.073 --> 01:00:13.176 DO THE WORK OF SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY. 01:00:13.242 --> 01:00:15.378 THAT'S WHY A LOT OF US DO COME FROM THE PUBLIC 01:00:15.445 --> 01:00:17.847 SECTOR, AND A LOT OF US BECOME JUDGES BECAUSE 01:00:17.914 --> 01:00:20.049 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE ON 01:00:20.116 --> 01:00:21.050 THAT JOURNEY. 01:00:21.117 --> 01:00:23.086 AND SO IT IS REALLY HARD, I CAN TELL YOU, 01:00:23.152 --> 01:00:27.323 TO RECRUIT DIVERSITY WOMEN, WOMEN WITH SMALL 01:00:27.390 --> 01:00:29.525 CHILDREN, BECAUSE I'M CONSISTENTLY ASKED, 01:00:29.592 --> 01:00:30.526 WELL, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? 01:00:30.593 --> 01:00:32.495 BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO BE ON THE BENCH UNTIL 01:00:32.562 --> 01:00:33.496 X AMOUNT OF TIME. 01:00:33.563 --> 01:00:35.098 THERE IS NO HYBRID WORK. 01:00:35.164 --> 01:00:38.101 AND I, AND I'M VERY, VERY, QUITE 01:00:38.167 --> 01:00:39.102 CANDID ABOUT IT. 01:00:39.168 --> 01:00:41.704 AND IT IS, YES, WE HAVE TO EXPEND MONEY ON 01:00:41.771 --> 01:00:44.173 CHILDCARE AND FIGURE OUT THOSE NEEDS, AND THEY 01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:46.109 DO BECOME FINANCIALLY CHALLENGING. 01:00:46.175 --> 01:00:47.677 WHEN I LEFT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S 01:00:47.744 --> 01:00:49.879 OFFICE, I LEFT AS A MANAGER AND I. 01:00:49.946 --> 01:00:52.582 MY INCOME WOULD BE MORE RIGHT NOW IF I WAS 01:00:52.648 --> 01:00:54.083 STILL THERE AND. 01:00:54.150 --> 01:00:57.020 BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ABILITY 01:00:57.086 --> 01:00:58.855 TO BE ON THE BENCH AND HAVE PEOPLE THAT 01:00:58.921 --> 01:01:01.657 COME BEFORE ME THAT I KNOW ARE SEEING 01:01:01.724 --> 01:01:03.426 SOMEONE ON THE BENCH THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF 01:01:03.493 --> 01:01:05.461 ALL CALIFORNIANS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO 01:01:05.528 --> 01:01:07.296 ME, AND IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF 01:01:07.363 --> 01:01:08.297 MY COLLEAGUES. 01:01:08.364 --> 01:01:11.501 AND SO THE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES, WE CONTINUE 01:01:11.567 --> 01:01:13.736 TO GO WITH THOSE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES 01:01:13.803 --> 01:01:15.972 BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE GREATER GOOD OF 01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:19.809 BEING ABLE TO OFFER ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE 01:01:19.876 --> 01:01:22.445 DO ON A DAILY BASIS TO THE CALIFORNIANS THAT 01:01:22.512 --> 01:01:24.213 COME BEFORE US, AND WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN 01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:25.581 THAT. THANK YOU. 01:01:25.648 --> 01:01:26.649 THANK YOU. 01:01:27.250 --> 01:01:29.285 HONORABLE JUSTICE BRAD HILL, THIS 01:01:29.352 --> 01:01:32.055 ISN'T OUR FIRST RODEO. WELCOME BACK. 01:01:32.121 --> 01:01:33.489 WELL, IT'S NICE TO BE BACK. THANK 01:01:33.556 --> 01:01:35.291 YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU. 01:01:35.358 --> 01:01:37.060 I'LL JUST ECHO THE THANKS FROM 01:01:37.126 --> 01:01:39.362 THE ENTIRE PANEL FOR SHINING A LIGHT 01:01:39.429 --> 01:01:40.430 ON THIS ISSUE. 01:01:40.863 --> 01:01:43.066 UH, CALIFORNIA'S CHIEF JUSTICE PATRICIA 01:01:43.132 --> 01:01:46.302 GUERRERO HAS STRESSED THE NEED FOR ADEQUATE 01:01:46.369 --> 01:01:49.572 COMPENSATION FOR STATES JUDGES, AND SHE 01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.808 DID SO IN HER STATE OF JUDICIARY ADDRESS, 01:01:51.874 --> 01:01:52.875 WHICH YOU HEARD. 01:01:53.209 --> 01:01:55.244 SHE STATED THAT FOR THE JUDICIAL BRANCH OF 01:01:55.311 --> 01:01:57.747 GOVERNMENT TO FULFILL ITS MANDATE TO DELIVER 01:01:57.814 --> 01:02:01.250 THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF JUSTICE AND SERVICE, IT 01:02:01.317 --> 01:02:04.287 MUST BE ABLE TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE BEST 01:02:04.353 --> 01:02:06.856 QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO THE BENCH. 01:02:07.323 --> 01:02:09.292 AND AS HAS BEEN NOTED BY THE PREVIOUS 01:02:09.358 --> 01:02:12.829 PANELISTS, THIS ISSUE ALSO DIRECTLY IMPACTS 01:02:13.096 --> 01:02:16.933 THE STATE'S ABILITY TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN 01:02:17.200 --> 01:02:18.668 A DIVERSE JUDICIARY. 01:02:19.335 --> 01:02:22.205 THIS IS A CONCERN THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, 01:02:22.271 --> 01:02:24.107 BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE IT HARDER 01:02:24.173 --> 01:02:27.677 AND HARDER FOR LAWYERS TO CONSIDER APPLYING FOR 01:02:27.743 --> 01:02:28.744 A JUDGESHIP. 01:02:29.045 --> 01:02:30.646 AS A MEMBER OF GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S 01:02:30.713 --> 01:02:32.715 JUDICIAL SELECTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, 01:02:32.982 --> 01:02:35.918 I HAVE HAD INCREASING DIFFICULTY CONVINCING 01:02:35.985 --> 01:02:37.553 CANDIDATES TO APPLY. 01:02:37.620 --> 01:02:41.090 OVER THE YEARS, I'VE RUN INTO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE 01:02:41.157 --> 01:02:44.760 WHO SAY I WOULD LOVE TO, BUT AGAIN, I AM NOT 01:02:44.827 --> 01:02:47.530 FINANCIALLY ABLE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF COMMITMENT 01:02:47.597 --> 01:02:50.066 AT THIS TIME AND TO TAKE THAT KIND OF A CUT. 01:02:50.666 --> 01:02:53.369 I'VE ALSO SEEN AN EXODUS OF VERY EXPERIENCED 01:02:53.436 --> 01:02:56.339 JUDGES WHO ARE SEEKING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. 01:02:56.939 --> 01:02:59.976 THIS ISSUE OF RETENTION IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT, 01:03:00.042 --> 01:03:02.411 AS THE CHIEF HAS POINTED OUT, AND ONE 01:03:02.478 --> 01:03:04.947 THAT GREATLY IMPACTS THE COURTS. 01:03:05.348 --> 01:03:08.351 UNLESS WE ADDRESS THIS GROWING SALARY GAP, 01:03:08.684 --> 01:03:10.786 WE FACE A REALITY WHERE APPLICANT POOL 01:03:10.853 --> 01:03:14.323 BECOMES VERY LIMITED AND OUR BENCH FAR LESS 01:03:14.390 --> 01:03:15.391 EXPERIENCE. 01:03:15.925 --> 01:03:18.995 HELPING TO NARROW THIS GAP REPRESENTS A SOUND 01:03:19.061 --> 01:03:21.030 PUBLIC INVESTMENT THAT WILL SUPPORT 01:03:21.097 --> 01:03:23.299 RECRUITMENT OF HIGHLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES 01:03:23.366 --> 01:03:26.335 TO THE BENCH AND AT THE SAME TIME, RETAIN 01:03:26.402 --> 01:03:27.803 EXPERIENCED JUDGES. 01:03:28.204 --> 01:03:30.506 THIS INVESTMENT WILL STRENGTHEN THE COURTS 01:03:30.573 --> 01:03:33.042 IN THE LONG TERM, THE HEALTH AND STABILITY 01:03:33.109 --> 01:03:35.311 OF OUR STATE GOVERNMENT, AND WE VERY MUCH 01:03:35.378 --> 01:03:37.647 APPRECIATE YOU SHINING A LIGHT ON THIS ISSUE. 01:03:37.713 --> 01:03:38.714 THANK YOU. 01:03:39.382 --> 01:03:42.652 THANK YOU. JUSTICE HILL, IF I MIGHT, 01:03:42.718 --> 01:03:45.388 UM, YOUR HAIR IS A BEAUTIFUL COLOR. 01:03:45.454 --> 01:03:48.157 UM, MINE'S NOT QUITE THAT WAY BECAUSE I DIET, 01:03:48.357 --> 01:03:55.631 BUT, UM, BUT IF I MIGHT ASK YOU, UM YOU HOW LONG 01:03:55.698 --> 01:03:58.367 WERE YOU A LAWYER BEFORE YOU BECAME A JUDGE? 01:03:58.434 --> 01:04:02.471 I WAS A LAWYER FOR ABOUT, UH, I WAS 01:04:02.538 --> 01:04:04.874 APPOINTED WHEN I WAS 36, SO ABOUT 7 OR 8 01:04:04.941 --> 01:04:07.743 YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE BENCH 35 YEARS 01:04:08.077 --> 01:04:13.115 AND I TOOK A PAY CUT TO TO JOIN THE BENCH. 01:04:13.182 --> 01:04:14.183 WOW. 01:04:14.383 --> 01:04:18.120 AND WHEN YOU SEE YOU SPOKE ABOUT 01:04:18.321 --> 01:04:21.591 THE DIFFICULTY OF RECRUITING FOLKS, CAN 01:04:21.657 --> 01:04:24.560 YOU TELL ME WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN YOU FIRST WERE 01:04:24.627 --> 01:04:25.895 APPOINTED TO THE BENCH? 01:04:26.162 --> 01:04:29.198 WHAT A YOU KNOW, AN HONOR OR SOMETHING 01:04:29.265 --> 01:04:34.070 THAT PEOPLE STROVE A STRIVED FOR AS LAWYERS 01:04:34.136 --> 01:04:37.506 TO BECOME A PART OF THE JUDGE ROLE VERSUS 01:04:37.573 --> 01:04:38.641 BEING A LAWYER. 01:04:38.874 --> 01:04:41.110 HOW HAS THAT CHANGED FROM, YOU KNOW, 01:04:41.177 --> 01:04:43.079 WHEN YOU FIRST WERE APPOINTED TO WHAT YOU 01:04:43.145 --> 01:04:44.680 SEE NOW AND THE FACT THAT IT'S VERY 01:04:44.747 --> 01:04:45.982 DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT? 01:04:46.482 --> 01:04:48.918 WELL, IT OBVIOUSLY IS AN HONOR OF A LIFETIME. 01:04:48.985 --> 01:04:50.253 ALL OF US WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. 01:04:50.319 --> 01:04:52.989 WE, UH, WE CHERISH THE OPPORTUNITY TO 01:04:53.055 --> 01:04:54.156 DO WHAT WE'RE DOING. 01:04:54.357 --> 01:04:57.026 AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ON FOR 35 YEARS 01:04:57.093 --> 01:04:59.895 AND HOPE TO BE ON FOR ANOTHER 5 OR 10. 01:05:00.263 --> 01:05:02.365 UM, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THERE ARE PEOPLE 01:05:02.431 --> 01:05:05.234 IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THEY SIMPLY CANNOT 01:05:05.534 --> 01:05:07.403 AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. 01:05:07.470 --> 01:05:08.504 THEY HAVE FAMILIES. 01:05:09.138 --> 01:05:10.473 THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS. 01:05:10.706 --> 01:05:13.542 AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 01:05:13.609 --> 01:05:15.144 REALLY WOULD LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 01:05:15.211 --> 01:05:18.514 THEY'RE VERY HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT THEY 01:05:18.581 --> 01:05:21.517 JUST FINANCIALLY HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION WITH 01:05:21.584 --> 01:05:23.552 THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT THEY MAY HAVE, THAT 01:05:23.619 --> 01:05:25.688 THEY MAY HAVE TO PUT THROUGH COLLEGE OR OTHER 01:05:25.755 --> 01:05:28.257 FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS, THAT AS MUCH AS THEY 01:05:28.324 --> 01:05:30.359 WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT 01:05:30.426 --> 01:05:31.427 CALL. 01:05:31.661 --> 01:05:33.629 THANK YOU, MR. Z. 01:05:33.696 --> 01:05:34.864 DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? 01:05:34.930 --> 01:05:35.865 NO. THANK YOU. 01:05:35.931 --> 01:05:37.633 SENATOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. 01:05:37.967 --> 01:05:40.102 UM, ALTHOUGH I HAVE ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS, 01:05:40.169 --> 01:05:43.406 I HAVE A LOT MORE, AND I CAN'T EVEN. 01:05:43.472 --> 01:05:45.007 WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR ME 01:05:45.074 --> 01:05:46.309 TO ASK ALL OF THEM. 01:05:46.375 --> 01:05:49.045 SO SOME OF THEM, AGAIN, WE WILL BE SUBMITTING 01:05:49.111 --> 01:05:52.048 FOR THE RECORD, UM, A FEW QUESTIONS I'D 01:05:52.114 --> 01:05:53.115 LIKE TO ASK. 01:05:53.182 --> 01:05:58.087 UM, ONE DOES WE HAVE HEARD UM NATIONWIDE 01:05:58.154 --> 01:06:00.189 VARIOUS SECURITY ISSUES THAT HAVE OCCURRED, 01:06:00.256 --> 01:06:01.891 UNFORTUNATELY WITH JUDGES. 01:06:02.224 --> 01:06:05.027 UM, IS THERE ANY SECURITY STIPEND THAT 01:06:05.094 --> 01:06:06.662 JUDGES ARE PROVIDED? 01:06:07.029 --> 01:06:10.266 UM, TO ASSIST THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY 01:06:10.333 --> 01:06:12.501 HAVE ADEQUATE SECURITY FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR 01:06:12.568 --> 01:06:13.569 THEIR HOMES. 01:06:14.970 --> 01:06:15.905 ANYONE CAN ANSWER. 01:06:15.971 --> 01:06:17.340 THANK YOU. IF I MAY. 01:06:17.406 --> 01:06:19.809 UM, WE DO NOT HAVE SECURITY STIPENDS 01:06:19.875 --> 01:06:20.843 THAT ARE OFFERED. 01:06:21.210 --> 01:06:24.347 UM, IN FACT, UM, I, WE DO HAVE A JUDICIAL 01:06:24.413 --> 01:06:26.382 PROTECTION UNIT, MEANING THAT WE 01:06:26.449 --> 01:06:28.718 HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WE CAN CONTACT, 01:06:28.784 --> 01:06:31.187 BUT THAT'S MOSTLY TO REPORT THREATS, 01:06:31.253 --> 01:06:32.355 SECURITY THREATS. 01:06:32.788 --> 01:06:35.257 I RECENTLY SPOKE WITH MY COURT LEADERSHIP 01:06:35.324 --> 01:06:38.127 AND WHAT I WAS BASICALLY TOLD WAS, WE 01:06:38.194 --> 01:06:40.463 HAVE SO MANY COMING IN PER WEEK THAT WE CAN 01:06:40.529 --> 01:06:41.564 HARDLY KEEP UP. 01:06:41.964 --> 01:06:44.367 UM, RECENTLY, AS RECENT AS YESTERDAY, I REPORTED 01:06:44.433 --> 01:06:47.136 A SECURITY THREAT FOR A PANEL THAT I AM 01:06:47.203 --> 01:06:50.439 SPEAKING ON THAT I'M GOING ON MY OWN ACCORD. 01:06:50.506 --> 01:06:53.042 AND WHEN I REQUESTED AND ASKED, UM, CAN 01:06:53.109 --> 01:06:55.144 I, WILL I HAVE SECURITY THERE? 01:06:55.211 --> 01:06:57.713 THE ANSWER IS, WELL, NO YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT 01:06:57.780 --> 01:06:59.014 REALLY ENTITLED TO IT. 01:06:59.382 --> 01:07:01.350 BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, WALK AWAY 01:07:01.417 --> 01:07:02.418 FROM THE EVENT. 01:07:02.618 --> 01:07:05.421 UM, AND SO I HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE MY STORY 01:07:05.488 --> 01:07:07.256 IS NOT A UNIQUE STORY. 01:07:07.323 --> 01:07:11.260 IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY COMMON STORY THAT WE ARE 01:07:11.460 --> 01:07:15.831 FACED WITH REAL THREATS ON A DAILY BASIS, AND WE 01:07:15.898 --> 01:07:16.832 DON'T HAVE. 01:07:16.899 --> 01:07:18.401 WE HAVE TO EXPEND OUR OWN RESOURCES 01:07:18.467 --> 01:07:20.503 TO PUT CAMERAS UP AROUND OUR HOMES. 01:07:20.569 --> 01:07:22.605 WE HAVE TO EXPEND OUR OWN RESOURCES TO 01:07:22.671 --> 01:07:25.841 ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES 01:07:25.908 --> 01:07:28.844 SAFE, GIVE OUR CHILDREN SAFE WORDS IN CASE 01:07:28.911 --> 01:07:30.679 WE'RE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING HAPPENS. 01:07:30.746 --> 01:07:33.716 BUT WE ARE VERY MUCH RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING 01:07:33.783 --> 01:07:34.884 OUR OWN SECURITY. 01:07:35.184 --> 01:07:37.353 UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO ADD 01:07:37.420 --> 01:07:38.521 TO THAT OR NOT. 01:07:38.587 --> 01:07:39.789 OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. 01:07:40.489 --> 01:07:43.259 LISTENING, LISTENING FOR LOS ANGELES COUNTY. 01:07:43.325 --> 01:07:47.196 I THINK FOR THE ENTIRE STATE, UM, WE AS STATE 01:07:47.263 --> 01:07:49.732 JUDGES AT THE TRIAL LEVEL, I SHALL SAY, 01:07:50.132 --> 01:07:53.702 UM, DO NOT RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR 01:07:53.769 --> 01:07:54.870 SECURITY. 01:07:54.937 --> 01:07:57.706 AND WE CAN ONLY REPORT IT AFTER THE THREAT 01:07:57.773 --> 01:08:01.310 AND THEN SOMEONE WILL ACT, BUT NOTHING TO TRY 01:08:01.377 --> 01:08:06.182 AND ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO THREATS AT HOME 01:08:06.248 --> 01:08:07.249 OR ANYTHING OF THAT. 01:08:07.316 --> 01:08:09.218 WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING 01:08:09.285 --> 01:08:11.387 TO SECURE OUR HOMES OR ANYTHING. 01:08:11.454 --> 01:08:12.455 OKAY. 01:08:12.955 --> 01:08:15.391 UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME READING 01:08:15.458 --> 01:08:17.827 THE REPORT, JUDICIAL COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA, 01:08:17.893 --> 01:08:20.362 ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OF THE COURTS. 01:08:20.596 --> 01:08:23.098 IT WAS A REPORT TO THE JUDICIAL 01:08:23.165 --> 01:08:25.768 COUNCIL PROVIDED TO THE LEGISLATURE. 01:08:26.001 --> 01:08:29.004 THE DATE WAS NOVEMBER 20TH, 2009, 01:08:29.338 --> 01:08:31.540 AND THE SUBJECT OF THE REPORT WAS REPORT 01:08:31.607 --> 01:08:32.741 TO THE LEGISLATURE. 01:08:32.808 --> 01:08:36.011 HISTORICAL ANALYSIS OF DISPARITIES IN 01:08:36.078 --> 01:08:37.179 JUDICIAL BENEFITS. 01:08:37.246 --> 01:08:40.082 THIS WAS NOVEMBER 20TH, 2009. 01:08:40.483 --> 01:08:42.852 AT THAT TIME, BASED UPON SOME OF 01:08:42.918 --> 01:08:44.220 THE THINGS THAT MR. 01:08:44.286 --> 01:08:47.957 SODERBERGH MENTIONED, THIS REPORT CAME OUT 01:08:48.023 --> 01:08:50.125 TO DISCUSS THESE DISPARITIES. 01:08:50.326 --> 01:08:54.830 AND IN THE REPORT IT HAD THAT, UM, THESE 01:08:54.897 --> 01:08:57.099 RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE PROVIDED 01:08:57.166 --> 01:08:59.502 FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO ACT UPON. 01:08:59.568 --> 01:09:03.272 HAS THERE BEEN ANY ACTION ON THIS REPORT. 01:09:03.339 --> 01:09:07.109 SPECIFICALLY, IT SAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT 90% 01:09:07.176 --> 01:09:09.612 OF THE SUPERIOR COURT JUDGES SERVE IN COURTS 01:09:09.812 --> 01:09:12.581 WHERE SOME FORM OF BENEFITS ARE PROVIDED, 01:09:12.648 --> 01:09:14.250 WHICH DEMONSTRATES THE WIDESPREAD 01:09:14.316 --> 01:09:17.586 ACCEPTANCE OF THE NEED FOR APPROPRIATENESS OF 01:09:17.653 --> 01:09:20.623 PROVIDING JUDGES WITH BETTER BENEFIT PACKAGES 01:09:20.856 --> 01:09:23.359 THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROVIDED BY THE STATE. 01:09:23.659 --> 01:09:26.462 UM, AND YET THERE'S NOTHING I COULDN'T FIND 01:09:26.529 --> 01:09:28.297 ANYTHING AFTER THAT. 01:09:28.797 --> 01:09:31.867 THAT SAID, THE LEGISLATURE 01:09:31.934 --> 01:09:36.105 SPECIFICALLY TOOK ACTION TO MAKE CHANGES 01:09:36.171 --> 01:09:39.608 TO YOUR CURRENT WAY OF BEING PAID, UM, 01:09:40.209 --> 01:09:43.612 SUPERIOR COURT JUDGES BY THE STATE, THE BASIC 01:09:43.679 --> 01:09:44.713 BENEFITS THAT YOU HAVE. 01:09:44.780 --> 01:09:47.249 BUT HAS THE LEGISLATURE TAKEN SPECIFIC 01:09:47.316 --> 01:09:50.586 ACTION TO CHANGE THESE METHODOLOGIES, 01:09:50.653 --> 01:09:52.621 FORMULAS, ANYTHING? 01:09:52.688 --> 01:09:54.823 HAVE WE HAD ANY HEARINGS ABOUT THAT, 01:09:55.057 --> 01:09:56.058 TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? 01:09:57.359 --> 01:09:58.294 YES. 01:09:58.360 --> 01:10:01.096 MR. Z LUCK WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL. 01:10:01.163 --> 01:10:03.766 UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS LITIGATION THAT OCCURRED 01:10:03.832 --> 01:10:04.767 ABOUT THAT TIME. 01:10:04.833 --> 01:10:06.769 AND THEN ULTIMATELY THERE WAS A BILL. 01:10:07.236 --> 01:10:08.971 I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION THAT 01:10:09.038 --> 01:10:11.373 CONFIRMED THE, THE JUDICIAL BENEFITS 01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:14.710 THAT WERE BEING PROVIDED TO JUDICIAL OFFICERS. 01:10:14.777 --> 01:10:17.713 SO THERE WAS ACTION, UM, FOR THE SPECIFIC 01:10:17.780 --> 01:10:19.315 BENEFITS THAT EXISTED AT THAT TIME 01:10:19.381 --> 01:10:21.917 THAT WERE SUBJECT TO, TO LITIGATION. 01:10:21.984 --> 01:10:23.285 WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. 01:10:23.485 --> 01:10:25.220 YES. JUST TO ADD A BIT MORE CONTEXT, 01:10:25.287 --> 01:10:27.389 AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A CHALLENGE TO 01:10:27.456 --> 01:10:29.158 WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS LEGAL FOR COUNTIES 01:10:29.224 --> 01:10:31.026 TO PROVIDE THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL BENEFITS. 01:10:31.093 --> 01:10:33.262 AND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID IS STEP IN AT THAT 01:10:33.329 --> 01:10:36.098 TIME AND PASS STATUTE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT 01:10:36.165 --> 01:10:38.133 IT WOULD BE LEGAL FOR COUNTIES TO CONTINUE TO 01:10:38.200 --> 01:10:39.134 DO THAT. 01:10:39.201 --> 01:10:41.136 BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE CONTINUES TO BE 01:10:41.203 --> 01:10:43.172 DIFFERENTIALS BETWEEN COUNTIES, BECAUSE NOT 01:10:43.238 --> 01:10:45.140 ALL COUNTIES PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF 01:10:45.207 --> 01:10:46.542 BENEFITS. RIGHT. 01:10:46.609 --> 01:10:50.980 MY QUESTION IN IN PLACE, BUT NO CHANGE OR ANY 01:10:51.046 --> 01:10:55.117 EFFORT TO, TO UM, HAVE A MORE COMMON APPROACH. 01:10:55.184 --> 01:10:58.253 MY QUESTION ISN'T RELATED TO THE CASE. 01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:01.924 MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT, AS 01:11:01.991 --> 01:11:05.060 HAS BEEN NOW TESTIFIED, THE JUDGE, SALARIES 01:11:05.127 --> 01:11:09.264 ARE NOT IN LINE WITH US COUNTERPARTS, 01:11:09.331 --> 01:11:12.001 WHETHER THEY BE PUBLIC ATTORNEYS AND SO ON. 01:11:12.067 --> 01:11:14.970 AND MY QUESTION IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY ACTION 01:11:15.037 --> 01:11:18.841 FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO LOOK AT RETIREMENT, LOOK 01:11:18.907 --> 01:11:22.344 AT DENTAL, LOOK AT LONG TERM, LOOK AT WHATEVER 01:11:22.411 --> 01:11:24.980 IT IS TO MAKE SENSE. 01:11:25.047 --> 01:11:29.184 THE WHAT OCCURRED IN 2007 OF THE PAY RESET? 01:11:29.585 --> 01:11:33.656 HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER ACTIVITIES TO MAKE 01:11:33.722 --> 01:11:37.359 CHANGES TO THE BASIC SALARY THAT JUDGES HAVE? 01:11:37.426 --> 01:11:40.496 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SUPPLEMENTAL TO 01:11:40.562 --> 01:11:43.899 THE SALARY OR TO ANY OTHER BENEFITS, UM, 01:11:43.966 --> 01:11:45.434 THAT RELATE TO JUDGES. 01:11:46.335 --> 01:11:48.604 AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN A FEW EFFORTS 01:11:48.671 --> 01:11:50.439 ON RETIREMENT. 01:11:50.873 --> 01:11:52.608 UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT. 01:11:52.675 --> 01:11:54.543 I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES. 01:11:54.610 --> 01:11:56.478 AND HASN'T THAT RETIREMENT THEN 01:11:56.545 --> 01:11:59.048 AND BEEN RELATED TO THOSE WHO ARE RETIRED 01:11:59.114 --> 01:12:00.683 AND NOT ACTIVE JUDGES. 01:12:00.749 --> 01:12:02.284 I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME THAT WERE 01:12:02.351 --> 01:12:05.821 PROSPECTIVE AND AND MAYBE HAVE RESULTED IN 01:12:05.888 --> 01:12:08.157 SOME BEHAVIOR CHANGES, BUT IT'S BEEN NOT A LOT. 01:12:08.223 --> 01:12:09.692 BUT THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF EFFORTS 01:12:09.758 --> 01:12:10.926 AND SOME BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED. 01:12:10.993 --> 01:12:12.194 BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT. 01:12:13.696 --> 01:12:15.097 TO ADD THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 01:12:15.164 --> 01:12:17.132 THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING MOVING FORWARD. 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:18.567 AND MY UNDERSTANDING. 01:12:18.634 --> 01:12:22.337 AND AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT THIS IS 01:12:22.404 --> 01:12:25.541 REALLY THE CRUX OF WHY WE ARE HERE, BECAUSE, 01:12:25.607 --> 01:12:27.976 UM, UNIFORMITY OF SALARIES IS SOMETHING 01:12:28.043 --> 01:12:30.045 THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS ALWAYS STRESSED AT 01:12:30.112 --> 01:12:31.046 LOOKING AT. 01:12:31.113 --> 01:12:33.248 AND IN FACT, IN THAT SAME REPORT, 01:12:33.649 --> 01:12:35.918 IT WAS BY DESIGN BY THE LEGISLATURE, 01:12:36.285 --> 01:12:38.120 BECAUSE TWO THINGS THAT THE LEGISLATURE 01:12:38.187 --> 01:12:40.689 POINTED TO WAS ONE, ENSURING THE STABILITY 01:12:40.756 --> 01:12:42.858 AND INDEPENDENCE OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH, 01:12:42.925 --> 01:12:45.294 AND TWO, THE QUALITY OF JUSTICE TO BE 01:12:45.360 --> 01:12:47.429 ADMINISTERED AT A UNIFORMLY HIGH 01:12:47.496 --> 01:12:49.465 LEVEL THROUGHOUT THE STATE, WHICH IS 01:12:49.531 --> 01:12:52.201 WHY, UM, THE UNIFORMITY OF SALARIES IS SO 01:12:52.267 --> 01:12:53.635 IMPORTANT FOR US TODAY. 01:12:55.437 --> 01:13:00.509 I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE COMMITTEES THAT WERE 01:13:00.576 --> 01:13:03.612 FORMED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF 01:13:03.679 --> 01:13:07.216 JUDGE SALARIES, AND IT'S SOMETHING I PLAN ON 01:13:07.516 --> 01:13:10.519 DISCUSSING WITH SENATOR REYES AND OTHERS. 01:13:10.919 --> 01:13:15.057 UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM, 01:13:15.124 --> 01:13:16.725 AS HAS BEEN TESTIFIED. 01:13:16.792 --> 01:13:19.228 I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE MEMBERS OF 01:13:19.294 --> 01:13:22.698 THE JUDGES ASSOCIATION SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD, 01:13:22.965 --> 01:13:25.200 UM, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU REFERENCED OF 01:13:25.267 --> 01:13:27.202 THE DISPARITIES IN PAY. 01:13:27.536 --> 01:13:30.906 SO IT IS ON THE RECORD FOR US TO REFERENCE. 01:13:31.273 --> 01:13:35.978 UM, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO NOW GET INTO, UM, 01:13:36.245 --> 01:13:40.215 I KNOW CAL OUR CAL HR UM, IS THE ONE THAT 01:13:40.282 --> 01:13:43.652 ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTS, UM, THE JUDGES SALARIES, 01:13:43.719 --> 01:13:45.554 BUT THEY SAY THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH 01:13:45.621 --> 01:13:46.555 THE FORMULA. 01:13:46.622 --> 01:13:49.191 YOU GUYS GOT SO MANY FREAKING METHODOLOGIES 01:13:49.258 --> 01:13:52.294 AND FORMULAS, BUT, UM, I USED A GOOD WORD. 01:13:52.361 --> 01:13:54.363 WHEN I GET HOME, MY MOM USUALLY SAYS, YOU 01:13:54.429 --> 01:13:56.298 DIDN'T USE THAT BAD WORD TODAY, DID YOU? 01:13:56.365 --> 01:13:57.499 AND I SAY, YEAH, I DID. 01:13:57.900 --> 01:14:00.669 UM, BUT I'M RESTRAINING MYSELF TODAY BECAUSE 01:14:00.736 --> 01:14:02.104 I'M, I'M IN A COURTROOM. 01:14:02.304 --> 01:14:06.442 BUT, UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH 01:14:06.508 --> 01:14:09.978 THE SHIFT THAT WAS MADE FROM THE JUDGES BEING 01:14:10.045 --> 01:14:12.815 MORE PREDOMINANTLY PAID BY COUNTY AND COUNTY 01:14:12.881 --> 01:14:15.717 AND STATE IN SOME CASES NOW STATE WITH SOME 01:14:15.951 --> 01:14:19.321 COUNTY CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTED, 01:14:19.388 --> 01:14:20.989 THE JUDGES ARE REPRESENTED BY 01:14:21.056 --> 01:14:21.990 AN ENTITY. 01:14:22.057 --> 01:14:25.027 I WON'T NAME THE ENTITY, BUT EVEN 01:14:25.093 --> 01:14:27.896 WITH THAT ENTITY, YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC 01:14:27.963 --> 01:14:31.567 LOCAL OR REPRESENTATIVE WHO'S NEGOTIATING 01:14:31.633 --> 01:14:36.271 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JUDGE'S SPECIFIC 01:14:36.338 --> 01:14:38.006 NEEDS ARE ADHERED TO. 01:14:38.073 --> 01:14:40.242 IS THAT A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? 01:14:40.309 --> 01:14:42.778 THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING. 01:14:42.845 --> 01:14:47.015 WE HAVE NO ONE TO REPRESENT JUDGES, NO ONE 01:14:47.082 --> 01:14:51.353 TO SPEAK UP FOR US WHEN IT DEALS WITH SALARIES, 01:14:51.420 --> 01:14:54.022 WHEN IT DEALS WITH HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. 01:14:54.223 --> 01:14:55.624 WE ARE TIED. 01:14:55.858 --> 01:14:59.928 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TO 21 OTHER UNIONS THAT 01:14:59.995 --> 01:15:03.298 HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT SPEAK UP FOR 01:15:03.365 --> 01:15:06.435 THEM, UNIONS THAT FIGHT FOR THEM, AND OUR 01:15:06.501 --> 01:15:09.171 PAY INCREASE UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE 68 01:15:09.238 --> 01:15:13.508 203 IS PAID IS TIED TO THOSE UNIONS, BUT WE 01:15:13.575 --> 01:15:15.377 HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. 01:15:15.444 --> 01:15:18.547 SO WE GET IF THEY'RE ABLE TO FIGHT OR GET 01:15:18.614 --> 01:15:21.416 A PAY INCREASE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE GET. 01:15:21.483 --> 01:15:24.853 WE GET THE AVERAGE OF THOSE 21 UNIONS, 01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:27.256 BUT THERE IS NO REPRESENTATION THAT 01:15:27.322 --> 01:15:28.323 JUDGES GET. 01:15:28.390 --> 01:15:30.959 AND I WANT TO POINT OUT, FOR THE PAST TWO 01:15:31.026 --> 01:15:34.763 YEARS, UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE 68 203, AGAIN, 01:15:34.830 --> 01:15:38.200 JUDGES HAVE GOTTEN A ZERO PAY INCREASE, 01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:42.004 UM, IN 2025, 2026. 01:15:42.070 --> 01:15:44.273 AND AS I STATED, WE ANTICIPATE 01:15:44.339 --> 01:15:46.308 AGAIN IN 2027. 01:15:46.642 --> 01:15:50.245 BUT UNIONS WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE 01:15:50.746 --> 01:15:52.214 WHILE NOT ON PAPER. 01:15:52.614 --> 01:15:54.483 THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN A PAY INCREASE. 01:15:54.549 --> 01:15:56.118 THEY'VE GOTTEN IN-KIND. 01:15:56.184 --> 01:15:57.753 MAYBE MORE VACATION. 01:15:57.819 --> 01:16:00.188 MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO 01:16:00.255 --> 01:16:01.590 THEIR HEALTH CARE. 01:16:01.657 --> 01:16:03.358 MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR 01:16:03.425 --> 01:16:06.828 A YEAR OR TWO TO THEIR 401 K, WHICH ULTIMATELY 01:16:06.895 --> 01:16:09.831 MEANS, AS WE KNOW, MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS. 01:16:10.065 --> 01:16:12.434 BUT NO, WE HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. 01:16:12.501 --> 01:16:14.102 NO ONE REPRESENTS US. 01:16:14.303 --> 01:16:17.472 OUR SALARIES UNDER 68 203. 01:16:17.539 --> 01:16:21.743 THIS PAY FORMULA HAS BEEN TIED TO THE AVERAGE 01:16:21.810 --> 01:16:25.047 OF WHAT 21 OTHER STATE UNIONS RECEIVE. 01:16:25.847 --> 01:16:28.583 SO I WANT TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON 01:16:28.650 --> 01:16:31.753 THAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE EVERY. 01:16:31.820 --> 01:16:32.854 AND FOR THE RECORD. 01:16:33.255 --> 01:16:36.558 UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY, AND IT'S MY 01:16:36.625 --> 01:16:39.561 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE JUDGE'S SALARY IS 01:16:39.628 --> 01:16:43.665 TIED TO THE AVERAGE OF PAY INCREASES. 01:16:44.099 --> 01:16:46.201 SO IT'S NOT SAYING. 01:16:46.268 --> 01:16:48.971 SO LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SCIENTISTS 01:16:49.338 --> 01:16:53.208 GET 20% INCREASE BECAUSE IT WAS SEEN THAT THEY 01:16:53.275 --> 01:16:56.244 WERE LOWER THAN THEY SHOULD BE FOR SCALE. 01:16:56.445 --> 01:16:58.046 AND THEN LET'S SAY ANOTHER POSITION, 01:16:58.113 --> 01:17:01.416 WHATEVER IT IS THAT GETS 5%, YOU'RE 01:17:01.483 --> 01:17:03.185 GETTING THE AVERAGE OF THOSE TWO. 01:17:03.251 --> 01:17:04.786 YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GETTING 01:17:04.853 --> 01:17:07.923 FOR THE SPECIALTY OF YOUR FIELD THAT'S NOT 01:17:07.990 --> 01:17:09.024 BEING REPRESENTED. 01:17:09.091 --> 01:17:10.926 IT'S THE AVERAGE OF ALL OF THEM, WHICH 01:17:10.993 --> 01:17:14.696 COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF 20 POSITIONS, WHICH 01:17:14.763 --> 01:17:16.631 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR THE RECORD. 01:17:16.698 --> 01:17:20.268 WHAT THOSE 21 OTHER POSITIONS ARE THAT THIS 01:17:20.335 --> 01:17:21.503 AVERAGE IS GOING ACROSS. 01:17:21.570 --> 01:17:23.672 BUT ISN'T THAT THE CASE THAT WHEN WE SAY 01:17:23.739 --> 01:17:27.609 AVERAGE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, LET'S 01:17:27.676 --> 01:17:30.979 SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, SCIENTISTS OR SENIOR 01:17:31.046 --> 01:17:33.548 LAWYERS OR WHATEVER FOR THE STATE, WE'RE TALKING 01:17:33.615 --> 01:17:36.685 ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF ALL POSITIONS WITHIN THAT 01:17:36.752 --> 01:17:38.153 PARTICULAR BARGAINING UNIT. 01:17:38.220 --> 01:17:39.321 ISN'T THAT CORRECT? 01:17:39.388 --> 01:17:40.555 YOU ARE CORRECT, SENATOR. 01:17:40.622 --> 01:17:41.690 YEAH. THAT'S CRAZY. 01:17:42.190 --> 01:17:43.725 UM, OKAY. 01:17:43.792 --> 01:17:46.028 AND THEN YES, PLEASE. 01:17:46.261 --> 01:17:49.231 YES. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD TO 01:17:49.297 --> 01:17:51.633 IS, IS THAT CAL HR RIGHT NOW IS ONLY 01:17:51.700 --> 01:17:54.503 CONSIDERING GENERAL SALARY INCREASES. 01:17:54.569 --> 01:17:57.272 SO THIS IS WHEN A SALARY INCREASE APPLIES TO 01:17:57.339 --> 01:17:59.708 EVERYBODY IN A SPECIFIC BARGAINING UNIT. 01:17:59.775 --> 01:18:02.077 THEY'RE NOT COUNTING SALARY INCREASES 01:18:02.144 --> 01:18:03.512 THAT ARE MORE TARGETED THAN THAT. 01:18:03.578 --> 01:18:05.981 SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES JUST FOLKS 01:18:06.048 --> 01:18:07.816 AT THE TOP END OF THE PAY STEP WILL GET 01:18:07.883 --> 01:18:08.817 A SALARY INCREASE. 01:18:08.884 --> 01:18:10.352 AND THAT'S CONSIDERED A SPECIAL 01:18:10.419 --> 01:18:11.520 SALARY INCREASE. 01:18:11.586 --> 01:18:12.888 AND SO THAT WOULDN'T BE FIGURED 01:18:12.954 --> 01:18:13.989 INTO THE AVERAGE. 01:18:14.723 --> 01:18:17.125 SO THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. 01:18:17.325 --> 01:18:20.529 UM, I THINK THEY'RE CALLED PSA'S. 01:18:20.595 --> 01:18:21.663 CORRECT. YES. 01:18:22.097 --> 01:18:24.066 YOU CAN TELL I'VE BEEN UP READING 01:18:24.132 --> 01:18:28.570 VERY LATE THE LAST, THE LAST WEEK HERE. 01:18:28.904 --> 01:18:33.241 UM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN ADDITION MR. 01:18:33.308 --> 01:18:35.744 SODERBERGH, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US WITH THAT, 01:18:36.011 --> 01:18:38.713 THAT IN ADDITION TO SALARIES, THERE'S OTHER 01:18:38.780 --> 01:18:41.683 THINGS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED THAT AREN'T 01:18:41.750 --> 01:18:42.784 BEING CONSIDERED. 01:18:42.851 --> 01:18:44.486 AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE 01:18:44.553 --> 01:18:48.090 NOT BEING CONSIDERED AT THE DISCRETION OF CAL 01:18:48.156 --> 01:18:53.128 HR, I GUESS, IS DECIDING THAT LITERALLY THE TERM 01:18:53.695 --> 01:18:57.732 ADJUSTMENTS FOR JUDGE SALARIES IS SALARY ONLY, 01:18:57.933 --> 01:19:01.436 NOT CONSIDERING ALL THESE OTHER COMPONENTS, 01:19:01.503 --> 01:19:03.839 MAYBE THAT THE SAME BARGAINING UNIT IS 01:19:03.905 --> 01:19:06.408 GETTING, BUT IS NOT CONSIDERING THAT THAT 01:19:06.475 --> 01:19:09.377 COULD ALSO BE EQUATED TO JUDGES SALARIES. IS 01:19:09.444 --> 01:19:10.378 THAT CORRECT? 01:19:10.445 --> 01:19:12.247 AND COULD YOU EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT? 01:19:12.314 --> 01:19:13.315 YES. THAT'S CORRECT. 01:19:13.381 --> 01:19:16.651 SO YEAH, AS I WAS SAYING BEFORE, THERE CAL HR IS 01:19:16.718 --> 01:19:19.221 INTERPRETING THE STATUTE TO ONLY REQUIRE THEM 01:19:19.287 --> 01:19:22.491 TO LOOK AT GENERAL SALARY INCREASES, AGAIN, 01:19:22.557 --> 01:19:23.892 APPLYING TO EVERYBODY. 01:19:23.959 --> 01:19:26.761 BUT AT THIS TIME THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT SPECIAL 01:19:26.828 --> 01:19:27.762 SALARY INCREASES. 01:19:27.829 --> 01:19:29.131 SO THESE WOULD BE SALARY INCREASES. 01:19:29.197 --> 01:19:30.866 THEY JUST DON'T APPLY ACROSS THE BARGAINING 01:19:30.932 --> 01:19:33.368 UNIT OR OTHER FORMS OF COMPENSATION. 01:19:33.435 --> 01:19:36.104 THAT MIGHT NOT BE SALARY INCREASE, BUT COULD 01:19:36.171 --> 01:19:40.475 BE SAY LIKE A PAY DIFFERENTIAL FOR WORKING 01:19:40.542 --> 01:19:42.010 IN A HARD TO STAFF AREA. 01:19:42.077 --> 01:19:43.778 THAT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE THAT ARE 01:19:43.845 --> 01:19:45.046 WORKING IN THAT AREA. 01:19:45.113 --> 01:19:46.948 THOSE THINGS ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED. 01:19:47.015 --> 01:19:49.718 AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SUBJECT OF THE 2024 01:19:49.784 --> 01:19:51.786 LITIGATION THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER. 01:19:51.853 --> 01:19:55.790 THAT IS WHAT IS, UM, THE SOME JUDGES HAVE 01:19:55.857 --> 01:19:58.226 SUED ON THIS BASIS AND THAT'S IN FRONT OF 01:19:58.293 --> 01:19:59.661 THE COURTS AS WE SPEAK. 01:20:00.795 --> 01:20:03.598 SO I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY 01:20:03.865 --> 01:20:08.103 REQUEST, UM, UH, MR. 01:20:08.170 --> 01:20:10.172 Z, DO YOU WORK IN THIS AREA AT ALL? 01:20:10.238 --> 01:20:11.406 I WORK IN EVERY AREA. 01:20:11.773 --> 01:20:13.975 YEAH, I THINK SO. OKAY. 01:20:14.242 --> 01:20:19.114 SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK THE ON 01:20:19.181 --> 01:20:22.017 THE RECORD, ASK THE JUDGE ASSOCIATION 01:20:22.250 --> 01:20:25.820 TO PLEASE PROVIDE US AND ALSO MR. 01:20:25.887 --> 01:20:28.323 Z FROM THE BUDGET SERVICES SIDE 01:20:28.623 --> 01:20:32.661 AND HONORABLE JUSTICE HILL AS WELL. AND. MR.. 01:20:32.727 --> 01:20:35.597 FRANKLY, ALL OF YOU, UM, LET ME JUST SAY THAT I'D 01:20:35.664 --> 01:20:38.099 LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT ALL OF YOU. 01:20:38.567 --> 01:20:44.139 ANY SPECIFIC LEGISLATIVE IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE THAT 01:20:44.206 --> 01:20:46.908 WE COULD CONSIDER FOR LEGISLATION TO PROVIDE 01:20:46.975 --> 01:20:50.345 DIRECTION, BETTER DIRECTION OF WHAT'S 01:20:50.412 --> 01:20:52.581 DEEMED AND INCLUSIVE AND SALARIES. 01:20:52.847 --> 01:20:57.352 UM, HOW HOW SHOULD PAY RAISES BE TIED, 01:20:57.419 --> 01:21:02.457 WHETHER CPI, WHETHER, UH, WHETHER, UH, AREAS 01:21:02.524 --> 01:21:05.894 IN YOUR PUBLIC, PUBLIC ATTORNEYS, YOU KNOW, 01:21:05.961 --> 01:21:08.697 IN THE STATE, WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE 01:21:08.763 --> 01:21:12.767 THAT COULD HELP US TO CRAFT WHAT WOULD GET AT 01:21:12.834 --> 01:21:17.472 THE PROBLEM TO NOT ONLY ONE FIX THE DEFICIENCY 01:21:17.539 --> 01:21:20.575 THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THE JUDGE SALARIES, 01:21:20.842 --> 01:21:22.978 BUT ALSO I NEED FOR YOU TO PUT ON YOUR 01:21:23.044 --> 01:21:25.847 THINKING HAT OF HOW FOR US TO AVOID THIS GOING 01:21:25.914 --> 01:21:26.848 FORWARD. 01:21:26.915 --> 01:21:28.817 YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME EVERY YEAR, EVERY 01:21:28.883 --> 01:21:31.052 TWO YEARS, EVERY FIVE YEARS, EVERY 20 YEARS, 01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:37.792 UNFORTUNATELY, TO SEEK, UM, ADEQUATE PAY WHEN 01:21:37.859 --> 01:21:40.462 WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TIE IT TO SOMETHING TO HELP 01:21:40.528 --> 01:21:41.596 ELIMINATE THAT. 01:21:41.663 --> 01:21:44.399 SO IF ALL OF YOU WOULD PLEASE KINDLY PUT ON 01:21:44.466 --> 01:21:46.334 YOUR THINKING HATS AND WITHIN THE NEXT 01:21:46.401 --> 01:21:49.137 TWO WEEKS, IDEALLY BECAUSE WE GO BACK ON 01:21:49.204 --> 01:21:53.508 DECEMBER 7TH AND, UM, WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT 01:21:53.575 --> 01:21:55.443 THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. 01:21:55.510 --> 01:21:57.045 AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT, AS MR. 01:21:57.112 --> 01:21:59.948 SODERBERGH HAS SAID FROM THE FIRST PANEL 01:22:00.015 --> 01:22:03.118 AND THIS PANEL THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO 01:22:03.184 --> 01:22:08.390 TO CHANGE HOW, UH, HOW THINGS ARE IMPLEMENTED. 01:22:09.424 --> 01:22:11.259 CAN I GET AN AGREEMENT FROM ALL OF YOU? 01:22:11.326 --> 01:22:12.327 YES. 01:22:12.394 --> 01:22:14.362 OKAY. THANK YOU. GOT A LITTLE HOMEWORK. 01:22:14.562 --> 01:22:15.997 ALL RIGHT, SENATOR REYES. 01:22:17.165 --> 01:22:20.068 THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, I APPRECIATE ALL 01:22:20.135 --> 01:22:22.904 THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, MADAM CHAIR HAS 01:22:22.971 --> 01:22:25.440 ASKED, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES. 01:22:25.507 --> 01:22:27.942 I THINK THAT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND OUR 01:22:28.009 --> 01:22:29.878 PRIOR DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED 01:22:29.944 --> 01:22:33.481 TO MANY OF OUR JUDGES WHO HAVE TOLD US OF 01:22:33.548 --> 01:22:37.986 THIS PROBLEM, AND THAT IS WHY MADAM CHAIR 01:22:38.053 --> 01:22:40.121 HAS PUT TOGETHER THIS HEARING AND INCLUDED 01:22:40.188 --> 01:22:41.723 THIS TOPIC IN IT. 01:22:42.123 --> 01:22:44.025 IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEEDS 01:22:44.092 --> 01:22:45.093 TO BE TACKLED. 01:22:45.427 --> 01:22:48.096 UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 01:22:48.163 --> 01:22:51.333 THERE HAD BEEN A BILL BEFORE REGARDING JUDGES 01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:54.302 SALARIES, BUT IT WAS VETOED BECAUSE OF 01:22:54.369 --> 01:22:56.638 THE BUDGET ASPECT OF IT. 01:22:57.672 --> 01:22:59.874 MAYBE I WAS GIVEN WRONG INFORMATION. 01:23:00.475 --> 01:23:01.409 AS I MENTIONED. 01:23:01.476 --> 01:23:03.144 THERE'S BEEN EFFORTS ON RETIREMENT. 01:23:03.445 --> 01:23:04.779 THE JUDGES WERE SPEAKING ABOUT SALARIES. 01:23:04.846 --> 01:23:06.448 I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT RETIREMENT EFFORTS. 01:23:06.514 --> 01:23:08.616 THERE WAS A BILL BY SENATOR MORLOCK AT 01:23:08.683 --> 01:23:11.886 ONE POINT THAT WAS VETOED IN THE PAST. 01:23:11.953 --> 01:23:13.488 BUT I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME PROGRESS 01:23:13.555 --> 01:23:15.890 ON THE MARGIN ON RETIREMENT ONLY. 01:23:15.957 --> 01:23:19.227 OKAY. SO THE BIG ISSUE ON SALARIES WITH 01:23:19.294 --> 01:23:21.396 THE INFORMATION YOU ALL WOULD PROVIDE, I THINK 01:23:21.730 --> 01:23:25.200 IT WOULD PROVIDE THE, THE, THE IMPETUS FOR 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:27.469 THE PROPER LANGUAGE AS WE INTRODUCE 01:23:27.535 --> 01:23:30.338 LEGISLATION AS CHAIR INTRODUCES LEGISLATION. 01:23:30.405 --> 01:23:31.973 I HOPE TO JOIN HER ON THAT. 01:23:32.040 --> 01:23:34.309 AND THERE ARE OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE. 01:23:34.642 --> 01:23:38.747 BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT JUDGESHIPS WAS 01:23:38.813 --> 01:23:39.881 SOMETHING WE HAD HAD. 01:23:40.548 --> 01:23:42.917 WE DISCUSSED THIS AT GREAT LENGTH WITH OUR 01:23:42.984 --> 01:23:45.987 COLLEAGUES AS IT WAS, AS IT WAS GOING THROUGH. 01:23:46.388 --> 01:23:49.357 UM, MANY OF THEM STARTED TALKING TO 01:23:49.591 --> 01:23:51.760 THEIR COURTHOUSES AND TO THEIR PRESIDING 01:23:51.826 --> 01:23:57.132 JUDGES AND FOUND THAT A BIG ISSUE WAS PAY WAS 01:23:57.198 --> 01:23:58.933 SALARY FOR OUR JUDGES. 01:23:59.334 --> 01:24:06.040 AND WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES, UH, REACHES 01:24:06.107 --> 01:24:10.245 US, THEN WE TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO 01:24:10.311 --> 01:24:11.446 ADDRESS THE ISSUE. 01:24:11.913 --> 01:24:15.049 UH, JUDICIAL COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL 01:24:15.116 --> 01:24:17.519 IN MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH. 01:24:17.786 --> 01:24:20.288 BUT I THINK THAT HERE, HAVING, MADAM CHAIR, 01:24:20.355 --> 01:24:22.824 ASK FOR EACH OF YOU TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. 01:24:22.891 --> 01:24:25.760 I THINK HAVING ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO BE KEY 01:24:25.827 --> 01:24:29.731 TO PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, LEGISLATION THAT WE 01:24:29.798 --> 01:24:32.667 HOPE WOULD MAKE IT TO OUR NEW GOVERNOR'S DESK 01:24:32.734 --> 01:24:34.269 AND TO HAVE IT SIGNED. 01:24:34.335 --> 01:24:37.605 AND I THINK MAKING SURE THAT THERE ISN'T A NEED 01:24:37.672 --> 01:24:42.310 TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TO COME IN TO ASK FOR 01:24:42.377 --> 01:24:43.445 THESE INCREASES. 01:24:43.878 --> 01:24:47.282 I KNOW THAT FOR MANY OF MY ATTORNEY COLLEAGUES, 01:24:47.582 --> 01:24:50.819 UM, BEING A JUDGE IS THE GREATEST HONOR. 01:24:51.186 --> 01:24:52.287 UM, FOR THEM. 01:24:52.353 --> 01:24:54.589 IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY WANT TO 01:24:54.656 --> 01:24:55.857 BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE. 01:24:56.391 --> 01:24:57.959 USUALLY AFTER TEN YEARS. 01:24:58.259 --> 01:25:01.029 UM, NOT EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY GETS IT EARLY. 01:25:01.362 --> 01:25:04.966 UM, BUT TO, TO DO GOOD WORK AND THEN TO 01:25:05.033 --> 01:25:08.670 FINALLY, THIS IS, THIS IS LIKE THE REWARD FOR 01:25:09.404 --> 01:25:10.472 DOING GOOD WORK. 01:25:10.805 --> 01:25:15.443 UM, AND THE BENCH GETS TO WITNESS THAT AND THEN 01:25:15.510 --> 01:25:18.079 THEY INVITE YOU TO BE PART OF THEIR, THEIR, 01:25:18.513 --> 01:25:19.514 THEIR TEAM. 01:25:19.914 --> 01:25:22.617 UM, BUT THIS INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT. 01:25:22.684 --> 01:25:24.486 I DID HAVE A QUESTION. 01:25:24.786 --> 01:25:28.289 UM, WHEN YOU SAY THAT JUDGES HAVE 01:25:28.356 --> 01:25:30.558 NO REPRESENTATION TO BARGAIN FOR 01:25:30.625 --> 01:25:31.626 THEIR SALARY. 01:25:31.860 --> 01:25:33.595 MY QUESTION IS WHY NOT? 01:25:34.996 --> 01:25:35.930 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PART. 01:25:35.997 --> 01:25:37.599 OF ANY UNION. I MEAN. 01:25:37.866 --> 01:25:39.400 BUT WHY AREN'T YOU PART OF A UNION? 01:25:39.467 --> 01:25:42.170 BECAUSE JUDGES. JUDGES ARE NOT CONSIDERED 01:25:42.237 --> 01:25:45.974 EMPLOYEES, AND EMPLOYEES ARE PART OF UNIONS. 01:25:46.040 --> 01:25:49.110 SO WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS QUITE 01:25:49.177 --> 01:25:51.746 LIKE YOU AND YOU AND THE LEGISLATURE. 01:25:51.813 --> 01:25:54.148 SO WE ARE NOT EMPLOYEES. 01:25:54.215 --> 01:25:57.585 AS EMPLOYEES, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO UNIONIZE. 01:25:57.785 --> 01:26:01.689 WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE HAVE TO RELY ON 01:26:01.756 --> 01:26:06.995 THE LEGISLATURE, UM, AS OUR PARTNERS, AS WELL 01:26:07.061 --> 01:26:10.565 AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HELP US SET OUR 01:26:10.632 --> 01:26:11.566 SALARIES. 01:26:11.633 --> 01:26:14.168 SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. 01:26:14.235 --> 01:26:15.770 WE CAN'T UNIONIZE. 01:26:15.837 --> 01:26:17.205 WE'RE NOT CONSIDERED EMPLOYEES. 01:26:17.272 --> 01:26:19.040 WE'RE CONSIDERED ELECTED OFFICIALS. 01:26:19.674 --> 01:26:20.975 AND CAN I JUST POINT OUT. 01:26:21.042 --> 01:26:22.210 LIKE US WITH OUR RETIREMENT? 01:26:22.277 --> 01:26:23.278 RIGHT. 01:26:23.344 --> 01:26:25.113 AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RETIREMENT, 01:26:25.179 --> 01:26:28.149 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ANOTHER REASON 01:26:28.216 --> 01:26:33.388 THAT JUDGES ARE LEAVING THEIR JUDGESHIPS. 01:26:33.454 --> 01:26:34.756 AND JUST THE IRONY. 01:26:34.822 --> 01:26:36.591 SO RETIRED JUDGES. 01:26:36.824 --> 01:26:40.628 THEIR PAY INCREASES, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, IS 01:26:40.695 --> 01:26:45.166 GOVERNED BY GOVERNMENT CODE 75523. 01:26:45.233 --> 01:26:46.334 I BELIEVE IT IS. 01:26:46.701 --> 01:26:49.637 AND SO THERE INCREASES WHEN YOU'RE RETIRED 01:26:49.704 --> 01:26:54.175 JUDGE THAT THERE INCREASES IS BASED ON UM 01:26:54.242 --> 01:26:55.743 THE COST OF INFLATION. 01:26:56.277 --> 01:26:58.179 SO LOOK AT THE IRONY. 01:26:58.246 --> 01:27:02.350 OUR RETIRED JUDGES LAST YEAR GOT A $10,000 PAY 01:27:02.417 --> 01:27:03.418 INCREASE. 01:27:04.419 --> 01:27:05.853 AS A RETIRED JUDGE. 01:27:06.054 --> 01:27:08.923 YOU SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE JUST LEAVING AND WE AS 01:27:08.990 --> 01:27:11.059 SITTING JUDGES GOT ZERO. 01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:13.761 RIGHT. THERE'S SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY 01:27:13.828 --> 01:27:14.929 WRONG WITH THAT. 01:27:14.996 --> 01:27:17.131 AND I THINK BE SURE THAT WHEN YOU PROVIDE 01:27:17.198 --> 01:27:21.002 THE INFORMATION THAT YOU INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION 01:27:21.069 --> 01:27:24.806 ABOUT HOW THE RETIRED JUDGES, BECAUSE PERHAPS 01:27:24.872 --> 01:27:28.910 THEN IT'S, UM, IT WOULD BE TYING YOUR JUDGES 01:27:28.977 --> 01:27:31.846 SALARY TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT CODE AS 01:27:32.113 --> 01:27:33.381 RETIRED JUDGES. 01:27:34.148 --> 01:27:36.751 WE JUST HAVE TO THINK AS AS MADAM CHAIR HAS 01:27:36.818 --> 01:27:38.720 SAID, WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. 01:27:38.786 --> 01:27:40.822 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. 01:27:41.155 --> 01:27:44.926 UM, THAT THE LAST ADJUSTMENT WAS IN 2007. 01:27:44.993 --> 01:27:46.628 AND IT'S LIKE, YAY! THANK YOU SO MUCH. 01:27:46.694 --> 01:27:48.096 AND YOU KNOW, WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE? 01:27:48.296 --> 01:27:50.164 WELL, 20 YEARS LATER, RIGHT? 01:27:50.365 --> 01:27:53.101 UM, BUT HOPEFULLY SOMETHING CAN BE DONE. 01:27:53.468 --> 01:27:55.503 UM, WE KNOW IT'S A LONG PROCESS. 01:27:55.570 --> 01:27:56.704 I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THERE HAD BEEN 01:27:56.771 --> 01:27:58.906 LEGISLATION ON THIS BEFORE, BUT IF THERE 01:27:58.973 --> 01:28:02.176 HASN'T, UM, IT'S CLEAR FROM, FROM OUR 01:28:02.243 --> 01:28:03.978 COLLEAGUES AND WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF 01:28:04.579 --> 01:28:08.182 SENATOR RICHARDSON THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AT 01:28:08.249 --> 01:28:10.685 LEAST BEGIN THAT PROCESS AND BEGIN IT EARLY. 01:28:10.985 --> 01:28:13.788 UM, IN DECEMBER IS WHEN WE START TO PUT TOGETHER 01:28:13.855 --> 01:28:15.223 A LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE. 01:28:15.790 --> 01:28:16.791 THANK YOU. 01:28:16.858 --> 01:28:18.426 THANK YOU. UM. 01:28:21.329 --> 01:28:23.297 AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT RETIREMENT. 01:28:23.364 --> 01:28:24.866 THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. 01:28:24.932 --> 01:28:25.867 THANK YOU. 01:28:25.933 --> 01:28:26.901 MADAM CHAIR. 01:28:26.968 --> 01:28:29.070 I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU HANG 01:28:29.137 --> 01:28:31.305 TIGHT A LITTLE BIT, JUST BECAUSE SOME THINGS 01:28:31.372 --> 01:28:33.107 MIGHT BE RELATED. 01:28:33.174 --> 01:28:35.510 WE ONLY HAVE TWO MORE PANELS, SO WE'LL WE'RE 01:28:35.576 --> 01:28:37.645 STILL WORKING TO GET EVERYBODY OUT ON TIME. 01:28:39.047 --> 01:28:40.782 THANK YOU. WITH THAT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO 01:28:40.848 --> 01:28:43.317 TURN TO PANEL NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS COURT 01:28:43.384 --> 01:28:45.620 CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT. 01:28:45.687 --> 01:28:47.422 PANELISTS, PLEASE COME TO THE TABLE. 01:28:47.488 --> 01:28:50.324 WE WILL AGAIN START WITH MR. SODERBERGH. 01:28:50.625 --> 01:28:52.460 IS IT SODERBERGH OR BERG? 01:28:53.928 --> 01:28:55.163 SODERBERGH. SODERBERGH. 01:28:55.363 --> 01:28:57.899 BORG. SHOULDER LIKE. LIKE CYBORG. 01:28:58.733 --> 01:29:00.168 CYBORG. OKAY. 01:29:01.235 --> 01:29:05.473 MR. SODERBERGH, UH, FROM THE LEGISLATIVE 01:29:05.540 --> 01:29:07.575 ANALYST'S OFFICE, FOLLOWED BY JUSTICE 01:29:07.642 --> 01:29:08.576 HILL. 01:29:08.643 --> 01:29:09.944 WHO'S GOING TO STAY WITH US HERE? 01:29:10.344 --> 01:29:16.284 UH, ERICA SPERBECK, JUDGE TAPIA, TAMAR 01:29:16.350 --> 01:29:18.586 AHMED, AND WE HAVE MR. 01:29:18.653 --> 01:29:20.254 Z, WHO'S STAYING HERE AS WELL. 01:29:22.123 --> 01:29:23.124 I SEE YOU. 01:29:24.058 --> 01:29:26.461 OKAY. UH, MR. SODERBERGH. 01:29:27.261 --> 01:29:29.897 UM. ALL RIGHT, SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 01:29:29.964 --> 01:29:32.266 FIVE OF YOUR HANDOUT, YOU'LL SEE A FIGURE 01:29:32.333 --> 01:29:35.737 DEPICTING THE 13 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS 01:29:35.803 --> 01:29:39.440 THAT WERE FUNDED IN THE 2627 BUDGET. 01:29:39.507 --> 01:29:43.778 THE 2627 BUDGET PROVIDED $1.8 BILLION 01:29:43.845 --> 01:29:44.979 FOR COURT CONSTRUCTION. 01:29:45.046 --> 01:29:48.082 THIS INCLUDES 1.7 BILLION IN LEASE REVENUE 01:29:48.149 --> 01:29:51.986 FUNDS AND 62.1 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO 01:29:52.053 --> 01:29:55.757 SUPPORT VARIOUS STAGES OF THESE 13 CONSTRUCTION 01:29:55.823 --> 01:29:56.824 PROJECTS. 01:29:56.891 --> 01:29:59.360 THE BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES LANGUAGE SPECIFYING 01:29:59.427 --> 01:30:02.363 THE LEGISLATURE MAY AUTHORIZE UP TO $1.3 01:30:02.430 --> 01:30:07.101 BILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN 2020 728 FOR 01:30:07.168 --> 01:30:10.037 FURTHER JUDICIAL BRANCH CAPITAL OUTLAY PROJECTS. 01:30:10.104 --> 01:30:12.607 HOWEVER, THIS LANGUAGE IS REALLY INTENT. 01:30:12.673 --> 01:30:13.808 LANGUAGE IN THE LEGISLATURE 01:30:13.875 --> 01:30:15.676 IS ALWAYS FREE TO APPROVE MORE OR LESS 01:30:15.743 --> 01:30:16.744 THAN THAT AMOUNT. 01:30:18.045 --> 01:30:20.448 THANK YOU, JUDGE TAPIA. 01:30:20.715 --> 01:30:21.749 HONORABLE JUDGE. 01:30:22.216 --> 01:30:23.351 GOOD AFTERNOON. 01:30:24.252 --> 01:30:25.453 CHAIR. RICHARDSON. 01:30:25.887 --> 01:30:27.855 SENATOR LUIS. GOMEZ. REYES. 01:30:27.922 --> 01:30:31.025 GOOD AFTERNOON AND GOOD AFTERNOON. 01:30:32.493 --> 01:30:34.462 I AM SERGIO TAPIA. I AM THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF 01:30:34.529 --> 01:30:36.531 THE SUPERIOR COURT OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY. 01:30:36.597 --> 01:30:39.700 I DO WANT TO WELCOME YOU BACK TO YOUR COURTHOUSE. 01:30:40.034 --> 01:30:42.370 SENATOR RICHARDSON, IN THE HEART OF 01:30:42.436 --> 01:30:43.437 YOUR DISTRICT. 01:30:44.138 --> 01:30:48.409 I WANT TO THANK YOU AND SENATOR LUIS REYES 01:30:48.776 --> 01:30:51.779 GOMEZ, FOR COMING HERE TO SEE FIRSTHAND 01:30:52.213 --> 01:30:54.148 THE FACILITIES CHALLENGES FACING LOS 01:30:54.215 --> 01:30:56.384 ANGELES COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE REST OF 01:30:56.450 --> 01:30:57.518 THE STATE. 01:30:57.585 --> 01:30:59.754 THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE NEARLY $1.9 01:30:59.821 --> 01:31:02.456 BILLION FOR COURTHOUSE CONSTRUCTION IN LAST 01:31:02.523 --> 01:31:03.524 YEAR'S BUDGET. 01:31:03.758 --> 01:31:06.661 PART OF THAT FUNDING WILL HELP OUR COURT 01:31:06.727 --> 01:31:09.664 PREPARE FOR THE CLOSURE OF THE FEDERALLY OWNED 01:31:09.730 --> 01:31:12.433 SPRING STREET COURTHOUSE IN THE YEAR 2028. 01:31:13.134 --> 01:31:15.369 THAT COMMITMENT, IN MY OPINION, SHOWS THE STATE 01:31:15.436 --> 01:31:18.506 RECOGNIZES COURTHOUSES AS ESSENTIAL PUBLIC 01:31:18.573 --> 01:31:19.574 INFRASTRUCTURE. 01:31:20.675 --> 01:31:21.909 YOU KNOW, A COURTHOUSE IS WHERE 01:31:21.976 --> 01:31:24.212 THE CONSTITUTION'S ABSTRACT PROMISES 01:31:24.278 --> 01:31:26.447 BECOME REAL FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE. 01:31:27.081 --> 01:31:29.250 THE CONDITION OF THOSE BUILDINGS SAYS A GREAT 01:31:29.317 --> 01:31:32.653 DEAL ABOUT HOW SERIOUSLY WE TAKE THOSE PROMISES. 01:31:33.287 --> 01:31:35.690 TODAY, CALIFORNIA IS FALLING SHORT. 01:31:36.457 --> 01:31:40.895 THIS MORNING WE SAW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TWICE IN 01:31:40.962 --> 01:31:41.896 A SINGLE MONTH. 01:31:41.963 --> 01:31:43.931 FAILING PIPES FLOODED THIS BUILDING. 01:31:44.498 --> 01:31:47.168 IT CLOSED FOR 11 DAYS, DISRUPTING DISRUPTING 01:31:47.235 --> 01:31:49.770 ROUGHLY 10,000 CASES AND AFFECTING MORE 01:31:49.837 --> 01:31:51.439 THAN 20,000 LITIGANTS. 01:31:51.939 --> 01:31:54.075 THE CONSEQUENCES, HOWEVER, LINGER. 01:31:54.542 --> 01:31:55.943 FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN HAVE 01:31:56.010 --> 01:31:57.011 NOWHERE TO EAT. 01:31:57.245 --> 01:31:59.447 SELF-REPRESENTED LITIGANTS CROWD INTO 01:31:59.513 --> 01:32:01.849 A MAKESHIFT SELF-HELP CENTER CARVED OUT OF 01:32:01.916 --> 01:32:03.484 A SHUTTERED CAFETERIA. 01:32:03.851 --> 01:32:05.953 PEOPLE WAIT 20 MINUTES OR LONGER 01:32:06.020 --> 01:32:08.556 FOR AN ELEVATOR ON THE WAY TO WHAT MAY BE 01:32:08.623 --> 01:32:11.058 THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL MOMENT OF THEIR LIVES. 01:32:11.759 --> 01:32:13.895 COMPTON IS NOT AN OUTLIER. 01:32:14.262 --> 01:32:16.530 DESPITE EVERYTHING YOU SAW TODAY, ITS 01:32:16.597 --> 01:32:20.935 RENOVATION RANKS 71ST OUT OF 80 PROJECTS ON 01:32:21.002 --> 01:32:23.004 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL'S STATEWIDE LIST. 01:32:23.638 --> 01:32:26.941 IF THE COURTHOUSE RANKS 71ST LOOKS LIKE THIS. 01:32:27.341 --> 01:32:29.410 CONSIDER THE 70 AHEAD OF IT. 01:32:30.177 --> 01:32:32.780 NOWHERE IS THE PROBLEM MORE ACUTE THAN IN LA 01:32:32.847 --> 01:32:33.781 COUNTY. 01:32:33.848 --> 01:32:36.617 19 OF OUR 36 COURTHOUSES ARE MORE 01:32:36.684 --> 01:32:37.985 THAN 50 YEARS OLD. 01:32:38.452 --> 01:32:40.821 AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH, SOMEONE IS TRAPPED IN 01:32:40.888 --> 01:32:42.056 ONE OF OUR ELEVATORS. 01:32:42.423 --> 01:32:45.092 PIPES FAIL, ESCALATORS BREAK, FLOODS, 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.662 AND ASBESTOS PUT COURT RECORDS OUT OF REACH. 01:32:48.195 --> 01:32:51.432 THESE ARE NOT ISOLATED MAINTENANCE FAILURES. 01:32:51.499 --> 01:32:54.335 THEY ARE THE PREDICTABLE RESULT OF A GENERATION 01:32:54.402 --> 01:32:57.038 OF BUILDINGS REACHING THE END OF THEIR USEFUL 01:32:57.104 --> 01:32:58.739 LIVES AT ONCE. 01:32:59.407 --> 01:33:01.876 HOW WE RANK THESE PROJECTS MATTERS. 01:33:02.376 --> 01:33:03.711 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL SCORES. 01:33:03.778 --> 01:33:06.647 EACH BUILDING'S NEED LOOKING AT CONDITION, 01:33:06.714 --> 01:33:09.984 SEISMIC AND FIRE RISK, SECURITY, OVERCROWDING 01:33:10.051 --> 01:33:11.652 AND ACCESS TO SERVICES. 01:33:12.453 --> 01:33:14.889 IT USES COST ONLY TO SET THE ORDER 01:33:14.956 --> 01:33:16.557 WITHIN EACH TIER. 01:33:17.124 --> 01:33:19.493 BUT THOSE SCORES REST ON ASSESSMENTS FROM 01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:22.797 2019, BEFORE THE FLOODS IN THIS BUILDING 01:33:23.030 --> 01:33:25.199 AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE A COURTHOUSE SERVES 01:33:25.266 --> 01:33:26.334 COUNTS FOR LITTLE. 01:33:27.001 --> 01:33:29.537 WE WELCOME THIS COMMITTEE'S EXAMINATION 01:33:29.603 --> 01:33:30.838 OF THAT PROCESS. 01:33:31.305 --> 01:33:33.007 WE ALSO WELCOME THE LEGISLATURE'S 01:33:33.074 --> 01:33:35.109 DIRECTION THAT THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL 01:33:35.176 --> 01:33:37.445 REPORT ON WAYS TO BUILD FASTER AND MORE 01:33:37.511 --> 01:33:38.512 EFFICIENTLY. 01:33:39.146 --> 01:33:40.815 OUR COURT IS DOING ITS PART. 01:33:41.315 --> 01:33:44.118 THIS YEAR, LA COUNTY BEGAN A LONG RANGE 01:33:44.185 --> 01:33:46.620 FACILITY STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WE EXPECT TO 01:33:46.687 --> 01:33:48.089 RELEASE EARLY NEXT YEAR. 01:33:48.589 --> 01:33:51.225 IT WILL DRAW ON SEVERAL SOURCES, FOR 01:33:51.292 --> 01:33:53.627 INSTANCE, POPULATION AND CASELOAD DATA. 01:33:54.095 --> 01:33:56.831 HOW LITIGANTS ACTUALLY USE OUR BUILDINGS TODAY. 01:33:57.164 --> 01:33:58.899 AND WHAT REMOTE APPEARANCES 01:33:58.966 --> 01:34:01.202 AND DIGITAL ACCESS NOW MAKE POSSIBLE. 01:34:02.003 --> 01:34:04.038 THE COURTHOUSES OF TOMORROW NEED NOT LOOK 01:34:04.105 --> 01:34:05.706 LIKE THE COURTHOUSES OF TODAY. 01:34:06.207 --> 01:34:08.509 IF WE ARE GOING TO INVEST BILLIONS, WE 01:34:08.576 --> 01:34:10.044 MUST INVEST WISELY. 01:34:10.411 --> 01:34:12.680 THAT MEANS LITIGANT CENTERED COURTHOUSES 01:34:13.047 --> 01:34:15.583 ACCESSIBLE, SAFE AND DESIGNED SO THAT 01:34:15.649 --> 01:34:17.485 EVERYONE WHO WALKS THROUGH THE DOORS CAN 01:34:17.551 --> 01:34:18.652 FULLY PARTICIPATE. 01:34:19.153 --> 01:34:21.322 WE WILL SUBMIT THE PLAN TO THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL 01:34:21.389 --> 01:34:23.891 TO REASSESS OUR COUNTY WIDE PRIORITIES. 01:34:23.958 --> 01:34:25.059 WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF 01:34:25.126 --> 01:34:27.795 FINANCE, THE LEGISLATURE AND OUR LOCAL PARTNERS, 01:34:28.596 --> 01:34:31.766 THAT PLAN WILL MAKE ONE NEED UNMISTAKABLE. 01:34:32.266 --> 01:34:33.968 WE MUST REPLACE THE STANLEY MOSK 01:34:34.035 --> 01:34:35.036 COURTHOUSE. 01:34:35.469 --> 01:34:38.706 THE MOSQUE COURTHOUSE SERVES ABOUT 1.1 MILLION 01:34:38.773 --> 01:34:39.907 VISITORS A YEAR. 01:34:39.974 --> 01:34:41.108 LET ME REPEAT THAT. 01:34:41.308 --> 01:34:45.246 ONE COURTHOUSE IN THIS STATE SERVES 1.1 MILLION 01:34:45.312 --> 01:34:46.313 VISITORS A YEAR. 01:34:47.048 --> 01:34:48.816 HOWEVER, IT IS THE FOURTH MOST 01:34:48.883 --> 01:34:50.618 SEISMICALLY VULNERABLE COURTHOUSE 01:34:50.684 --> 01:34:51.786 IN CALIFORNIA. 01:34:52.453 --> 01:34:55.256 REPLACING IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY IMPERATIVE. 01:34:55.723 --> 01:34:58.459 IT IS ALSO OUR BEST OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD 01:34:58.526 --> 01:35:00.294 THE COURTHOUSE I HAVE DESCRIBED. 01:35:00.494 --> 01:35:01.962 ON A SCALE THAT REACHES THE MOST 01:35:02.029 --> 01:35:04.765 PEOPLE, MOSQUE IS NEAR THE TOP OF THE LIST 01:35:04.832 --> 01:35:07.168 FOR SITE ACQUISITION FUNDING, AND WE ASK 01:35:07.234 --> 01:35:09.203 FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MOVING IT FORWARD. 01:35:10.104 --> 01:35:12.239 I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE MY REMARKS WITH THIS. 01:35:12.973 --> 01:35:14.775 THE COURTHOUSE IS THE MOST VISIBLE PUBLIC 01:35:14.842 --> 01:35:16.310 SPACE IN OUR DEMOCRACY. 01:35:16.844 --> 01:35:18.746 PEOPLE COME THERE TO RESOLVE DISPUTES, 01:35:18.813 --> 01:35:21.048 PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES, DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS, 01:35:21.115 --> 01:35:22.283 AND SEEK JUSTICE. 01:35:22.917 --> 01:35:26.821 TODAY YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE FAIL TO 01:35:26.887 --> 01:35:28.089 KEEP FAITH WITH THEM. 01:35:28.589 --> 01:35:31.325 WHEN WE BUILD WELL, WE TELL EVERY PERSON WHO 01:35:31.392 --> 01:35:33.727 WALKS THROUGH OUR DOORS THAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE 01:35:33.794 --> 01:35:35.029 WORTH THE INVESTMENT. 01:35:35.596 --> 01:35:37.731 WE HERE IN LA ARE DOING THE WORK TO PLAN 01:35:37.798 --> 01:35:40.067 FOR SOMETHING BETTER, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO 01:35:40.134 --> 01:35:41.335 BUILDING IT WITH YOU. 01:35:41.635 --> 01:35:43.137 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO 01:35:43.204 --> 01:35:46.707 PROVIDE THIS TESTIMONY, AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER 01:35:46.774 --> 01:35:48.075 ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 01:35:48.476 --> 01:35:49.443 THANK YOU. 01:35:50.077 --> 01:35:54.281 NEXT, WE'LL HAVE MISS ERICA SPERBECK. 01:35:55.649 --> 01:35:57.051 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO 01:35:57.118 --> 01:35:59.220 DEFER TO JUSTICE HILL TO GO BEFORE MY TESTIMONY. 01:35:59.286 --> 01:36:00.287 SURE. THANK YOU. 01:36:01.055 --> 01:36:03.090 THANK YOU AGAIN. AND THANK YOU, 01:36:03.157 --> 01:36:04.158 JUDGE TAPIA. 01:36:04.725 --> 01:36:06.961 WE'RE WE'RE PARTNERS ON THIS EFFORT. 01:36:07.027 --> 01:36:08.696 AND IT'S IT'S AN IMPORTANT EFFORT. 01:36:08.762 --> 01:36:11.065 JUDGE TAPIA IS A MEMBER OF THE COURT 01:36:11.132 --> 01:36:13.000 FACILITIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE 01:36:13.067 --> 01:36:14.201 WANT TO THANK YOU. 01:36:14.268 --> 01:36:17.071 IT IT IT NEEDS TO BE SAID AND NEEDS TO 01:36:17.138 --> 01:36:19.707 BE SAID OFTEN THAT YOU ARE SUPPLYING 01:36:20.341 --> 01:36:23.110 THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO RECTIFY 01:36:23.177 --> 01:36:25.613 WHAT'S BEEN WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM FOR A VERY 01:36:25.679 --> 01:36:28.949 LONG TIME, AND THE FUNDS THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING, 01:36:29.517 --> 01:36:32.486 MAKING A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE ACROSS 01:36:32.553 --> 01:36:35.556 THE STATE AND CERTAINLY HERE IN LOS ANGELES, 01:36:36.056 --> 01:36:39.760 THE CITIZENS OF THIS STATE DESERVE SAFE 01:36:39.827 --> 01:36:41.395 AND SECURE COURTHOUSES. 01:36:41.662 --> 01:36:44.365 AND YOUR EFFORTS HAVE GONE SUCH A LONG WAY 01:36:44.431 --> 01:36:46.634 TOWARD MAKING THAT A REALITY AND WILL DO 01:36:46.700 --> 01:36:47.701 SO IN THE FUTURE. 01:36:48.502 --> 01:36:50.437 I PREVIOUSLY TOUCHED ON THE NEEDS 01:36:50.504 --> 01:36:53.440 STATEWIDE WHICH IMPACT REALLY EVERY 01:36:53.507 --> 01:36:54.942 REGION OF OUR STATE. 01:36:55.676 --> 01:36:58.112 THESE NEEDS STRIKE AT THE CORE OF OUR MISSION 01:36:58.345 --> 01:37:02.049 IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO JUSTICE, SECURITY, ADA 01:37:02.116 --> 01:37:05.753 ACCESSIBILITY, SEISMIC SAFETY, OVERCROWDING, 01:37:06.120 --> 01:37:08.923 AND THINGS LIKE ACCESS TO FOOD, WHICH WE TALKED 01:37:08.989 --> 01:37:10.057 ABOUT THIS MORNING. 01:37:10.424 --> 01:37:13.227 SOME PERHAPS THINGS THAT AREN'T GLAMOROUS, 01:37:13.294 --> 01:37:15.963 AREN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT, BUT ARE CRITICAL 01:37:16.230 --> 01:37:18.265 FOR MANY COURTHOUSES AROUND THE STATE. 01:37:19.266 --> 01:37:21.669 I'VE NOTED MANY TIMES THE SERIOUS SEISMIC 01:37:21.735 --> 01:37:24.638 CONCERNS THAT WE ALL HAVE, MOST NOTABLY IN 01:37:24.705 --> 01:37:27.775 LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO, WHERE WE 01:37:27.841 --> 01:37:30.811 HAVE COURTHOUSES THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF 01:37:30.878 --> 01:37:31.879 REPLACEMENT. 01:37:32.179 --> 01:37:33.847 HERE IN LOS ANGELES, I'VE BEEN WORKING 01:37:33.914 --> 01:37:36.350 WITH THE COURT LEADERSHIP ON PLANS 01:37:36.417 --> 01:37:37.851 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE MOSS 01:37:37.918 --> 01:37:41.855 COURTHOUSE, A $3 BILLION UNDERTAKING. 01:37:42.223 --> 01:37:44.858 AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS THE VERY 01:37:44.925 --> 01:37:47.628 NEXT PROJECT IN LINE FOR FUNDING. 01:37:48.028 --> 01:37:49.897 AND NOT A MOMENT TOO SOON. 01:37:50.564 --> 01:37:52.366 ALONG WITH THE LA COURT LEADERSHIP, 01:37:52.433 --> 01:37:54.401 WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A SITE 01:37:54.802 --> 01:37:58.072 THAT WE CAN EMBARK ON IMMEDIATELY ONCE 01:37:58.138 --> 01:38:01.075 FUNDING IS AUTHORIZED BY THE LEGISLATURE. 01:38:01.742 --> 01:38:03.444 ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AREAS OF 01:38:03.510 --> 01:38:05.512 LOS ANGELES IN TERMS OF CASELOADS 01:38:05.579 --> 01:38:06.580 IS SANTA CLARITA. 01:38:06.981 --> 01:38:10.818 AND THAT $600 MILLION PROJECT IS AUTHORIZED, 01:38:11.118 --> 01:38:14.555 FUNDED AND IN LAND ACQUISITION AS WE SPEAK. 01:38:15.990 --> 01:38:20.995 IF WE WERE TO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE STATE, THOSE 01:38:21.061 --> 01:38:23.497 COURTHOUSES AND THOSE AREAS THAT ARE GETTING 01:38:23.564 --> 01:38:26.533 NEW COURTHOUSES, WE WOULD SEE CONDITIONS 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:30.070 THAT HAVE DETERIORATED DRAMATICALLY OVER TIME. 01:38:30.137 --> 01:38:31.538 AND JUDGE TAPIA IS RIGHT. 01:38:32.139 --> 01:38:34.875 WE SEE CONDITIONS HERE THAT ARE AWFUL. 01:38:35.743 --> 01:38:37.645 I'VE TOURED SO MANY COURTHOUSES 01:38:37.711 --> 01:38:39.747 AROUND THE STATE, SAN FRANCISCO, 01:38:39.813 --> 01:38:43.183 AND COURTHOUSES UP AND DOWN THE STATE WHERE 01:38:43.550 --> 01:38:46.587 THEY ALL ARE IN, OR MANY OF THEM THAT ARE IN LINE 01:38:46.654 --> 01:38:49.623 FOR REPLACEMENT OR IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR. 01:38:50.324 --> 01:38:52.693 OUR COURT FACILITIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE 01:38:52.993 --> 01:38:55.529 STANDS READY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DESERVING OF 01:38:55.596 --> 01:38:59.233 YOUR TRUST TO PRUDENTLY SPEND THE FUNDS THAT YOU 01:38:59.300 --> 01:39:00.301 HAVE AUTHORIZED. 01:39:00.534 --> 01:39:03.370 AND AS INDICATED, JUDGE TAPIA AND I, AS MEMBERS 01:39:03.437 --> 01:39:05.472 OF THE COURT FACILITIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, 01:39:06.240 --> 01:39:09.443 WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DESERVING OF YOUR 01:39:09.510 --> 01:39:12.379 TRUST, AND WE'LL EXPEND THOSE FUNDS TO ONLY 01:39:12.446 --> 01:39:15.649 THOSE COURTS MOST IN NEED ACROSS OUR STATE. 01:39:15.716 --> 01:39:16.884 THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. 01:39:17.351 --> 01:39:19.019 THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 01:39:19.653 --> 01:39:21.789 UM, MISS SPERBECK. 01:39:22.222 --> 01:39:23.157 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 01:39:23.223 --> 01:39:24.992 AND SENATOR SO ERICA SPERBECK WITH 01:39:25.059 --> 01:39:26.260 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 01:39:26.327 --> 01:39:28.929 AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO JUDGE TAPIA AND JUSTICE 01:39:28.996 --> 01:39:31.432 HILLS APPRECIATION FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP 01:39:32.032 --> 01:39:34.268 AND ADVOCACY FOR THE JUDICIAL BRANCH. 01:39:34.501 --> 01:39:36.303 UM, WE ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THE MONEY 01:39:36.370 --> 01:39:37.738 THAT WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR OUR 01:39:37.805 --> 01:39:39.473 CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. 01:39:39.873 --> 01:39:41.542 WHAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET WERE 01:39:41.608 --> 01:39:42.543 SUPPORT RESOURCES. 01:39:42.609 --> 01:39:45.279 SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 01:39:45.346 --> 01:39:47.848 PROVIDE A ROADMAP TO YOU AS REQUIRED 01:39:47.915 --> 01:39:50.751 IN THE BUDGET BY JANUARY 10TH, UM, 01:39:50.818 --> 01:39:53.387 ON, ON OPPORTUNITIES TO ACCELERATE 01:39:53.454 --> 01:39:54.822 AND STREAMLINE OUR COURTHOUSE 01:39:54.888 --> 01:39:57.257 CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING RECOMMENDATIONS, 01:39:57.324 --> 01:39:59.593 POTENTIAL STATUTORY CHANGES, AND RESOURCE 01:39:59.660 --> 01:40:00.661 NEEDS. 01:40:00.994 --> 01:40:02.663 SO I WANT TO JUST PROVIDE SOME HIGH LEVEL 01:40:02.730 --> 01:40:05.299 COMMENTS JUST TO PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR, FOR OUR 01:40:05.699 --> 01:40:07.034 CAPITAL PROGRAM. 01:40:07.101 --> 01:40:09.303 SO IN ADDITION TO THE ROBUST GOVERNANCE 01:40:09.370 --> 01:40:11.638 THAT THE JUSTICE HILL SPOKE TO, WE ALSO HAVE 01:40:11.705 --> 01:40:14.041 A GREAT DEDICATED FACILITIES TEAM LED 01:40:14.108 --> 01:40:16.176 BY DIRECTOR TAMARA AHMED, WHO I'M JOINED 01:40:16.243 --> 01:40:20.147 BY TODAY AND INCLUDING ABOUT 140 OTHER STAFF 01:40:20.214 --> 01:40:22.449 WHO PRIMARILY DELIVER CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION 01:40:22.516 --> 01:40:23.484 PROJECTS. 01:40:23.550 --> 01:40:25.419 AND WE STRIVE FOR ACCESSIBLE, 01:40:25.486 --> 01:40:27.621 SAFE, FUNCTIONAL COURTHOUSES ON TIME 01:40:27.688 --> 01:40:28.756 AND WITHIN BUDGET. 01:40:29.390 --> 01:40:31.925 WE ALSO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN ABOUT 430 01:40:31.992 --> 01:40:33.427 FACILITIES STATEWIDE. 01:40:33.727 --> 01:40:36.397 THOSE ARE BUILDINGS AND PARKING STRUCTURES 01:40:36.463 --> 01:40:38.098 AND COURTHOUSES, ETC.. 01:40:38.432 --> 01:40:40.834 UM, OF THAT NUMBER, ABOUT 288 ARE 01:40:41.068 --> 01:40:42.770 COURTHOUSES THAT SERVE THE PUBLIC. 01:40:43.370 --> 01:40:44.905 WE'RE COMMITTED TO PUBLIC SERVICE 01:40:44.972 --> 01:40:47.141 ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN 01:40:47.207 --> 01:40:49.610 THE SERVICE OF EQUAL JUSTICE TO CALIFORNIA 01:40:49.977 --> 01:40:51.745 OR TO TO ALL 40 MILLION CALIFORNIANS 01:40:51.812 --> 01:40:52.780 THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 01:40:52.846 --> 01:40:55.949 A GOOD EXAMPLE OF US BEING ACCOUNTABLE IS, 01:40:56.016 --> 01:40:58.485 NOTWITHSTANDING HAVING NOT RECEIVED, UM, 01:40:58.819 --> 01:41:01.989 RESOURCES IN THE CURRENT YEAR TO BEGIN DELIVERING 01:41:02.055 --> 01:41:03.323 ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. 01:41:03.590 --> 01:41:05.459 WE'VE IDENTIFIED RESOURCES THAT WE 01:41:05.526 --> 01:41:08.228 COULD REDIRECT INTERNALLY IMMEDIATELY 01:41:08.295 --> 01:41:09.563 TO BEGIN DELIVERING. 01:41:10.431 --> 01:41:12.800 WE'VE ALREADY FILLED SOME PROGRAM MANAGER 01:41:12.866 --> 01:41:14.902 POSITIONS AND SOME CONSULTANT POSITIONS TO 01:41:14.968 --> 01:41:17.137 BEGIN DELIVERING ON, ON THE COMMITMENT THAT THAT 01:41:17.204 --> 01:41:18.472 THE LEGISLATURE MADE. 01:41:18.806 --> 01:41:20.107 AND WE'RE ALSO COMMITTED TO BEING 01:41:20.174 --> 01:41:22.109 GOOD PARTNERS WITH COUNTIES, COMMUNITIES 01:41:22.176 --> 01:41:24.178 AND OTHERS, WHICH IN SOME CASES DOES ADD 01:41:24.244 --> 01:41:26.413 TIME TO OUR PROJECTS. 01:41:26.947 --> 01:41:28.449 I WILL SAY, NOTWITHSTANDING OUR 01:41:28.515 --> 01:41:30.784 EFFORTS TO SIMPLIFY AND STANDARDIZE 01:41:30.851 --> 01:41:32.953 COURTHOUSES, BUILDING THEM IS INCREDIBLY 01:41:33.020 --> 01:41:35.522 COMPLEX, AS THEY'RE GENERALLY THREE 01:41:35.589 --> 01:41:36.557 BUILDINGS. IN ONE. 01:41:36.623 --> 01:41:39.126 THERE ARE COURTROOMS AS WE SIT IN HERE TODAY. 01:41:39.460 --> 01:41:42.162 THERE ARE ALSO PUBLIC AREAS, AND THEY ALSO 01:41:42.229 --> 01:41:44.498 INCLUDE DETENTION AREAS, ALL WITH SPECIALIZED 01:41:44.565 --> 01:41:45.666 REQUIREMENTS. 01:41:45.732 --> 01:41:47.835 ON AVERAGE, IT TAKES 8 TO 15 YEARS TO 01:41:47.901 --> 01:41:48.969 BUILD A COURTHOUSE. 01:41:49.970 --> 01:41:52.639 OUR CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM IS DRIVEN BY OUR 01:41:52.706 --> 01:41:54.708 JUDICIAL BRANCH FIVE YEAR INFRASTRUCTURE 01:41:54.775 --> 01:41:56.844 PLAN, WHICH WE DO UPDATE ANNUALLY. 01:41:57.144 --> 01:42:00.180 HOWEVER, THE UNDERLYING BASIS FOR THAT IS OUR 01:42:00.247 --> 01:42:02.115 PRIORITIZED LIST OF PROJECTS. 01:42:02.182 --> 01:42:04.918 UM IS THE COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED 01:42:04.985 --> 01:42:06.086 BACK IN 2019. 01:42:06.153 --> 01:42:09.089 JUDGE TAPIA MENTIONED THAT IT WAS PURSUANT 01:42:09.156 --> 01:42:10.491 TO BUDGET TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE. 01:42:10.557 --> 01:42:11.792 WE FOLLOWED THE REQUIREMENTS 01:42:11.859 --> 01:42:12.860 IN THE STATUTE. 01:42:13.327 --> 01:42:14.928 WE BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CONDUCT 01:42:14.995 --> 01:42:17.598 SUCH AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR PORTFOLIO ABOUT 01:42:17.664 --> 01:42:19.032 EVERY TEN YEARS. 01:42:19.099 --> 01:42:22.936 IT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING FOR FOR THE COUNSEL, 01:42:23.003 --> 01:42:24.972 FOR THE COURTS, FOR OUR PARTNERS. 01:42:25.305 --> 01:42:27.808 UM, SO SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT EVERY 01:42:27.875 --> 01:42:31.111 TEN YEARS IS MEETS THE RIGHT MARK TO 01:42:31.178 --> 01:42:33.547 GIVE COURTS AND OTHERS EXPECTATIONS ON NEW 01:42:33.614 --> 01:42:35.649 FACILITIES AND PLANNING FOR NEW PROJECTS, 01:42:35.716 --> 01:42:38.252 ETCETERA, AS IT RELATES TO THE MONEY THAT WAS 01:42:38.318 --> 01:42:39.553 INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. 01:42:39.620 --> 01:42:41.188 AGAIN, APPRECIATION FOR THAT. 01:42:41.255 --> 01:42:43.991 WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN HIRING POSITIONS TO, 01:42:44.057 --> 01:42:46.093 TO BEGIN DELIVERING, DELIVERING. 01:42:46.293 --> 01:42:48.595 WE'VE INITIATED PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE NEW 01:42:48.662 --> 01:42:51.999 TRACY COURTHOUSE IN SAN JOAQUIN, THE NEW EAST 01:42:52.065 --> 01:42:55.536 COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN KERN, AND THE CLEAR, 01:42:55.602 --> 01:42:57.771 CLEAR LAKE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION IN LAKE 01:42:57.838 --> 01:42:58.772 COUNTY. 01:42:58.839 --> 01:43:00.607 THE TAHOE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION. 01:43:00.674 --> 01:43:02.276 ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS APPROVED 01:43:02.342 --> 01:43:04.411 IS ON HOLD BECAUSE OF A COUNTY DRIVEN 01:43:04.478 --> 01:43:05.846 POTENTIAL SCOPE CHANGE. 01:43:06.213 --> 01:43:08.649 AND FINALLY, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING TO 01:43:08.715 --> 01:43:11.118 DELIVER THE ROADMAP TO THE LEGISLATURE 01:43:11.184 --> 01:43:12.319 ON JANUARY 10TH. 01:43:13.053 --> 01:43:14.288 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 01:43:15.322 --> 01:43:16.323 MR. AHMED. 01:43:17.724 --> 01:43:19.493 THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR THE HEARING. 01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:21.061 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT 01:43:21.128 --> 01:43:22.129 YOU MAY HAVE. 01:43:22.896 --> 01:43:23.997 NOT SO EASY. 01:43:25.966 --> 01:43:29.336 JUST KIDDING. UM, I'M GOING TO TURN TO SENATOR 01:43:29.403 --> 01:43:32.139 REYES TO KICK US OFF FOR THESE TWO PANELS. 01:43:32.940 --> 01:43:34.474 THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO BEGIN BY 01:43:34.541 --> 01:43:36.577 THANKING JUDGE TAPIA. 01:43:37.144 --> 01:43:39.813 I WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE JUDGES 01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:43.250 WE NEEDED, NOT ABOUT THE TOPIC FOR TODAY. 01:43:43.483 --> 01:43:48.288 I CALLED AND I SAID, HELP SAN BERNARDINO, 01:43:48.522 --> 01:43:49.489 RIVERSIDE NEED HELP. 01:43:49.556 --> 01:43:51.224 AND, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED 01:43:51.291 --> 01:43:52.793 THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD. 01:43:53.260 --> 01:43:55.062 UM, I TRIED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. 01:43:55.128 --> 01:43:57.130 I SAID, CAN YOU LEND US SOME OF YOUR JUDGES? 01:43:57.497 --> 01:44:00.100 UM, BUT HE'S VERY PROTECTIVE OF HIS 01:44:00.167 --> 01:44:01.168 JUDGES, TOO. 01:44:01.568 --> 01:44:02.836 AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 01:44:03.103 --> 01:44:06.940 I THINK THAT ONE OF THE WORDS I THINK THAT 01:44:07.774 --> 01:44:10.644 IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR ME IS ACCOUNTABILITY. 01:44:11.144 --> 01:44:13.580 TRANSPARENCY, ALSO ACCOUNTABILITY. 01:44:13.914 --> 01:44:17.718 UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING ON 01:44:17.784 --> 01:44:21.822 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND, AND NEW NEW COURTHOUSES, 01:44:22.122 --> 01:44:24.358 UM, MAINTENANCE, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, 01:44:24.424 --> 01:44:26.526 WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE TOPICS 01:44:26.593 --> 01:44:29.796 AND THE MONEY IS PUT IN, IT'S LIKE IT GOES INTO 01:44:29.863 --> 01:44:35.102 A HOLE AND WE HAVE TO BE SURE THAT, THAT WHEN WE, 01:44:35.168 --> 01:44:39.072 WE GET OUR REPORTS, WHEN WE GET THE FEEDBACK, IT 01:44:39.139 --> 01:44:43.210 TELLS US WE'VE INVESTED PROPERLY, UM, THAT 01:44:43.276 --> 01:44:45.579 THE NEED WAS THERE AND THAT THE MONEY IS 01:44:45.646 --> 01:44:48.615 BEING SPENT TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS THAT HAVE 01:44:48.682 --> 01:44:49.783 BEEN IDENTIFIED. 01:44:50.250 --> 01:44:53.887 UM, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND MORE, 01:44:53.954 --> 01:44:56.890 MORE OF A COMMENT RATHER THAN, THAN A QUESTION 01:44:57.357 --> 01:44:59.826 SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAD MENTIONED TO ME 01:44:59.893 --> 01:45:01.662 WHEN I TOLD THEM WE WERE HAVING THE INFORMATIONAL 01:45:01.728 --> 01:45:02.663 HEARING. 01:45:02.729 --> 01:45:05.198 THEY SAID, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT IT 01:45:05.265 --> 01:45:10.103 ISN'T JUST I WON'T SAY IT THE WAY THEY SAY 01:45:10.170 --> 01:45:14.241 IT SAID IT, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE 01:45:14.307 --> 01:45:17.878 CARE OF EVERYBODY, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE 01:45:17.944 --> 01:45:19.713 LOUD, THAT WE GET IT. 01:45:20.414 --> 01:45:23.850 UM, AND WE ALL, BUT WE KNOW THE SQUEAKY WHEEL 01:45:23.917 --> 01:45:25.385 IS THE ONE THAT GETS OILED. 01:45:25.686 --> 01:45:28.422 UM, SO I THINK THEY'RE FINDING THAT BALANCE 01:45:28.488 --> 01:45:30.824 BECAUSE THE GREATER YOUR NEED, THE MORE 01:45:30.891 --> 01:45:33.326 YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING IF YOU DON'T HAVE 01:45:33.393 --> 01:45:37.297 A GREAT NEED THERE, YOU WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR 01:45:37.364 --> 01:45:38.298 NEW COURTHOUSE. 01:45:38.365 --> 01:45:39.866 YOU HAVE TWO JUDGES, YOU HAVE A COURTHOUSE, 01:45:39.933 --> 01:45:40.901 YOU'RE DONE. 01:45:40.967 --> 01:45:44.204 UM, BUT FOR THOSE AREAS THAT ARE GROWING, 01:45:44.271 --> 01:45:46.506 AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THE INLAND EMPIRE 01:45:46.573 --> 01:45:49.042 BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ALSO 01:45:49.109 --> 01:45:53.613 GROWING, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT THAT 01:45:53.947 --> 01:45:58.018 IT IT IS BASED UPON THE DATA, JUST AS AS 01:45:58.085 --> 01:46:01.188 IT IS FOR JUDGES, THAT THOSE NEEDS, AS YOU'VE 01:46:01.254 --> 01:46:04.458 DONE IN YOUR REPORT, IN TALKING ABOUT, AS 01:46:04.524 --> 01:46:07.861 ONE OF YOU MENTIONED, THE SEISMIC ISSUES 01:46:07.928 --> 01:46:10.263 AND AND ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU'VE 01:46:10.330 --> 01:46:13.867 LISTED ON THERE THAT ARE IMPORTANT, THAT 01:46:13.934 --> 01:46:17.604 THAT IT IS DATA DRIVEN AND THAT IF IF WE'RE 01:46:17.671 --> 01:46:20.207 GOING TO DEVIATE FROM THAT, THAT THERE BE 01:46:20.273 --> 01:46:25.178 A SPECIAL CONVENING TO DETERMINE IF THE THE 01:46:25.245 --> 01:46:28.048 DEVIATION IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE FUNDING THAT 01:46:28.115 --> 01:46:30.484 IS PROVIDED IS BASED UPON THE INFORMATION 01:46:30.550 --> 01:46:31.551 THAT WE RECEIVE. 01:46:31.952 --> 01:46:33.220 AND SO THAT ACCOUNTABILITY 01:46:33.286 --> 01:46:35.522 AND TRANSPARENCY TO WHAT THE ACCOUNTABILITY 01:46:35.589 --> 01:46:37.157 IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 01:46:37.224 --> 01:46:39.226 AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY 01:46:39.292 --> 01:46:40.293 MENTIONED THAT. 01:46:40.727 --> 01:46:43.530 IF I MAY, SENATOR RAISE AND I WILL GO BACK TO. 01:46:43.597 --> 01:46:45.932 AND CHAIR RICHARDSON, I THINK MAYBE THIS 01:46:45.999 --> 01:46:48.068 WILL RESONATE MORE FULLY WITH YOU. 01:46:48.135 --> 01:46:50.637 BUT SINCE THE APRIL SENATE HEARING THAT THAT 01:46:50.704 --> 01:46:54.641 WE HAD LET ME JUST NAME A FEW ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN 01:46:54.708 --> 01:46:56.143 OUR CONSTRUCTION AREA. 01:46:56.209 --> 01:46:57.978 I THINK THAT WILL HELP JUST PROVIDE, 01:46:58.044 --> 01:46:59.112 AGAIN, CONTEXT. 01:46:59.412 --> 01:47:02.883 WE DEDICATED THE NEW 53 ROOM SACRAMENTO 01:47:02.949 --> 01:47:04.851 COURTHOUSE ON APRIL 17TH. 01:47:05.118 --> 01:47:08.121 WE DEDICATED THE NEW 15 COURTROOM SONOMA 01:47:08.188 --> 01:47:10.724 COURTHOUSE IN SANTA ROSA ON MAY 29TH. 01:47:10.957 --> 01:47:12.692 WE DEDICATED THE EXPANDED SAN 01:47:12.759 --> 01:47:14.661 BERNARDINO JUVENILE DEPENDENCY COURTHOUSE 01:47:14.728 --> 01:47:15.829 ON JULY 8TH. 01:47:16.196 --> 01:47:18.098 WE BROKE GROUND ON THE SIXTH DISTRICT COURT 01:47:18.165 --> 01:47:20.567 OF APPEALS COURTHOUSE IN SUNNYVALE ON AUGUST 01:47:20.634 --> 01:47:22.736 5TH, AND WE OBTAINED THE CERTIFICATE OF 01:47:22.803 --> 01:47:24.938 OCCUPANCY ON THE NEW LAKEPORT COURTHOUSE. 01:47:25.005 --> 01:47:26.406 AND ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S OPEN 01:47:26.473 --> 01:47:28.175 FOR BUSINESS, WHICH. 01:47:28.241 --> 01:47:30.076 THE LAKEPORT COURTHOUSE WAS OUR FIRST DESIGN 01:47:30.143 --> 01:47:32.212 BUILD PROJECT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. 01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:33.847 SO JUST A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS 01:47:33.914 --> 01:47:35.949 AND IT VERY EXCITING. EXCITING. 01:47:36.016 --> 01:47:36.917 FOR. 01:47:36.983 --> 01:47:39.486 FOR ME AS A LEGISLATOR, I TO, TO HEAR 01:47:39.553 --> 01:47:41.922 THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND TO SEE HOW 01:47:41.988 --> 01:47:44.658 THE MONEY IS SPENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 01:47:44.724 --> 01:47:46.726 AND JUST HAVING YOU TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT 01:47:46.793 --> 01:47:49.462 AREAS, NOT JUST ONE AREA IN THE STATE OF 01:47:49.529 --> 01:47:52.299 CALIFORNIA ALSO IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 01:47:52.365 --> 01:47:53.433 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 01:47:53.834 --> 01:47:55.202 AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 01:47:55.268 --> 01:47:56.203 OKAY. 01:47:56.269 --> 01:47:57.504 THANK YOU SENATOR. 01:47:58.004 --> 01:48:00.073 UM, A FEW QUESTIONS. 01:48:00.941 --> 01:48:05.312 SO I THINK THIS IS TO MISS SPERBECK 01:48:05.378 --> 01:48:06.947 AND MR. AHMED. 01:48:07.414 --> 01:48:11.484 UM, ON AVERAGE, BASED UPON YOUR CURRENT 01:48:11.551 --> 01:48:14.688 STAFFING LEVELS, YOUR CURRENT BANDWIDTH, HOW 01:48:14.754 --> 01:48:21.061 MANY COURTHOUSES CAN YOU SEE THAT YOU CAN BUILD? 01:48:21.461 --> 01:48:24.297 AND BEFORE I THINK YOU GET INTO THAT QUESTION, 01:48:24.364 --> 01:48:27.267 CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH HOW LONG IT'S TAKING 01:48:27.334 --> 01:48:32.005 FROM ACQUISITION TO PLANS TO THIS, TO THAT? 01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:33.807 BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALSO ONE OF 01:48:33.874 --> 01:48:34.808 OUR CHALLENGES. 01:48:34.875 --> 01:48:38.044 AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS NOT A WHAT THE YOUNG 01:48:38.111 --> 01:48:41.047 PEOPLE CALL A SHADE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT. 01:48:41.114 --> 01:48:44.084 ALL CONSTRUCTION IS FACING ARE FACING THESE 01:48:44.150 --> 01:48:45.919 CHALLENGES OF MAJOR. 01:48:46.152 --> 01:48:47.921 IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, 01:48:47.988 --> 01:48:49.489 HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO ACTUALLY 01:48:49.556 --> 01:48:51.758 ACQUIRE YOUR SITE AND, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH 01:48:51.825 --> 01:48:52.926 THE DIFFERENT STEPS. 01:48:52.993 --> 01:48:55.095 COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH APPROXIMATELY 01:48:55.161 --> 01:48:56.796 HOW LONG THAT'S TAKING? 01:48:57.030 --> 01:49:01.034 IDEALLY, IF, IF WE WERE TO IDENTIFY AND YOU 01:49:01.101 --> 01:49:05.972 HAVE, I THINK 10 OR 17 HERE, UM, LOCATIONS, 01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:08.909 HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FROM START TO FINISH TO 01:49:08.975 --> 01:49:11.244 ACTUALLY GET THAT DONE? 01:49:11.444 --> 01:49:15.081 AND HOW MANY PEOPLE IS IT TAKING TO DO THAT? 01:49:15.749 --> 01:49:17.217 AND THEN I'LL ASK TAMARA TO WEIGH IN AS 01:49:17.284 --> 01:49:19.853 WELL, JUST IN TERMS OF THE STAFFING, 01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:21.054 THE RESOURCES. 01:49:21.121 --> 01:49:23.256 SO THE 1.9 BILLION INCLUDED IN 01:49:23.323 --> 01:49:26.526 THE BUDGET, UM, WAS FOR, FOR NEW PROJECTS 01:49:26.593 --> 01:49:29.562 AND THEN CONTINUING THE NEXT PHASE FOR 01:49:29.629 --> 01:49:31.898 NINE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTS. 01:49:31.965 --> 01:49:35.068 SO THE, THE ANALYSIS PART OF THE ROADMAP THAT 01:49:35.135 --> 01:49:38.605 WE'RE DEVELOPING WILL IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES 01:49:38.672 --> 01:49:40.640 NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THOSE EFFORTS. 01:49:40.707 --> 01:49:43.076 AND THEN I'LL ALSO JUST HIGHLIGHT, AND IT'S 01:49:43.143 --> 01:49:45.612 BEEN MENTIONED, BUT, UM, THE CURRENT YEAR 01:49:45.679 --> 01:49:47.814 BUDGET ALSO REFERENCED A POTENTIAL OF ANOTHER 01:49:47.881 --> 01:49:50.650 1.3 BILLION NEXT YEAR FOR FIVE ADDITIONAL 01:49:50.717 --> 01:49:51.651 PROJECTS. 01:49:51.718 --> 01:49:52.953 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR 01:49:53.019 --> 01:49:55.755 OVERALL CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK 01:49:55.822 --> 01:49:58.124 AND REQUEST RESOURCES TO DO. 01:49:58.191 --> 01:50:00.994 AGAIN, WE'VE IDENTIFIED OR REDIRECTED CURRENT 01:50:01.061 --> 01:50:03.797 YEAR POSITIONS OR RESOURCES TO BE ABLE 01:50:03.863 --> 01:50:05.598 TO TO START ON THOSE PROJECTS IN THE CURRENT 01:50:05.665 --> 01:50:06.566 YEAR. 01:50:06.633 --> 01:50:07.734 AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE PHASING 01:50:07.801 --> 01:50:10.036 AND THE TIMELINES, I'LL ASK TAMARA TO WEIGH IN. 01:50:10.537 --> 01:50:13.039 YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, SENATOR. 01:50:13.306 --> 01:50:17.077 UM, IT TAKES ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS 01:50:17.143 --> 01:50:18.678 MINIMUM IN ORDER TO BUILD A COURTHOUSE 01:50:18.745 --> 01:50:19.813 UP TO 15. 01:50:19.879 --> 01:50:21.614 AND THAT IS BASED ON HISTORICAL DATA 01:50:21.681 --> 01:50:23.416 REGARDING THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE. 01:50:23.683 --> 01:50:25.719 BUT ALSO IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION 01:50:25.785 --> 01:50:27.087 THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP. 01:50:27.153 --> 01:50:29.856 SOME OF OUR PROJECTS ARE SMALL, WHERE IT'S 01:50:29.923 --> 01:50:31.925 LIKE A MAJOR RENOVATION OF A ONE COURTROOM 01:50:31.992 --> 01:50:34.094 COURTHOUSE THAT IS ABOUT A 7 OR 8 YEARS 01:50:34.160 --> 01:50:36.563 BECAUSE OF THE THREE DIFFERENT PHASES THAT 01:50:36.629 --> 01:50:39.766 ARE INVOLVED, A LARGE COURTHOUSE LIKE JUDGE 01:50:39.833 --> 01:50:42.068 TAPIA TALKED ABOUT THE MOSQUE REPLACEMENT 01:50:42.135 --> 01:50:44.404 COULD POSSIBLY TAKE ABOUT 15 YEARS. 01:50:45.005 --> 01:50:47.674 THE REASON IS THE MOST DIFFICULT. 01:50:49.275 --> 01:50:51.444 PHASE OF ANY PROJECT, IN MY OPINION, IS 01:50:51.511 --> 01:50:52.712 THE ACQUISITION PHASE. 01:50:53.046 --> 01:50:55.815 GETTING THE LAND TO BUILD A COURTHOUSE 01:50:56.016 --> 01:50:57.384 FOR SEVERAL REASONS. 01:50:57.584 --> 01:50:59.085 A COURTHOUSE NEEDS TO BE CLOSE TO 01:50:59.152 --> 01:51:00.153 THE JUSTICE PARTNERS. 01:51:00.220 --> 01:51:02.522 SO THAT KIND OF LIMITS THE LOCATIONS 01:51:02.589 --> 01:51:05.125 WHERE WE NEED TO PUT THE COURTHOUSES IN. 01:51:05.859 --> 01:51:07.460 FINDING A WILLING SELLER, 01:51:08.328 --> 01:51:10.163 THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE ASSOCIATED 01:51:10.230 --> 01:51:11.297 WITH THAT. 01:51:11.364 --> 01:51:13.433 SOMETIMES WE REALLY WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF 01:51:13.500 --> 01:51:14.768 FINANCE, AND THEY'VE BEEN REALLY A GOOD 01:51:14.834 --> 01:51:16.836 PARTNER WITH US IF WE FIND A SITE, 01:51:16.903 --> 01:51:19.272 BUT THE SITE IS NOT AVAILABLE NOW, WE 01:51:19.339 --> 01:51:22.342 LOCK IN THE SITE BY HAVING SOMETHING CALLED 01:51:22.409 --> 01:51:26.112 A PURCHASE OPTION, WHERE WE LOCK THE SITE 01:51:26.346 --> 01:51:29.249 AND IT'S UP TO US TO BUY, AND THE SELLER 01:51:29.315 --> 01:51:32.552 WOULD NEED TO TO SELL UNTIL POSSIBLY THAT 01:51:32.619 --> 01:51:33.553 LOCATION. 01:51:33.620 --> 01:51:36.289 FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S COUNTY OWNED THAT THEY 01:51:36.356 --> 01:51:39.225 GET ALL THEIR, UM, FUNCTIONS OR MAYBE 01:51:39.292 --> 01:51:41.327 SOMEBODY THAT OCCUPIES THE COUNTY BUILDING, 01:51:41.694 --> 01:51:44.431 UM, THEIR LEASE ENDS IN THEIR SITE. 01:51:44.497 --> 01:51:48.001 SO IT TAKES ABOUT 4 TO 4 AND A HALF YEARS TO TO 01:51:48.068 --> 01:51:50.703 GET ACQUISITIONS DONE FOR VARIOUS REASONS, 01:51:50.770 --> 01:51:51.971 INCLUDING SEQUA. 01:51:52.539 --> 01:51:56.142 UM, AND FINDING A SITE AND CLEARING SEQUA 01:51:56.209 --> 01:51:57.243 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 01:51:57.710 --> 01:51:59.579 THEN IT DEPENDS ON, LIKE I SAID, 01:51:59.646 --> 01:52:00.580 LIKE THE PROJECT. 01:52:00.647 --> 01:52:03.483 SO 1 OR 2 YEARS IS SPENT IN WHAT WE CALL 01:52:03.550 --> 01:52:04.484 PERFORMANCE CRITERIA. 01:52:04.551 --> 01:52:06.619 AND THAT IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE STATE PUTS OUT 01:52:06.686 --> 01:52:08.688 TO SAY, WE WANT THIS COURTHOUSE TO BE THAT 01:52:08.755 --> 01:52:09.689 BIG. 01:52:09.756 --> 01:52:12.325 WE WANT THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ONE, TWO, THREE, 01:52:12.392 --> 01:52:14.160 FOUR WITH REGARDING TO THE DIFFERENT BUILDING 01:52:14.227 --> 01:52:16.129 SYSTEMS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT TAKES 01:52:16.196 --> 01:52:19.265 ABOUT A 1 OR 2 YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF 01:52:19.332 --> 01:52:20.400 THE BUILDING. 01:52:20.467 --> 01:52:22.635 OF COURSE, THE SMALLER THE COURTHOUSE, THE, 01:52:22.702 --> 01:52:23.703 THE LESS TIME. 01:52:24.137 --> 01:52:26.406 UM, AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION, IT GOES 01:52:26.473 --> 01:52:30.610 BETWEEN FOUR YEARS TO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, 01:52:31.544 --> 01:52:34.647 EIGHT YEARS OR SO, THE SMALLER COURTHOUSES. 01:52:34.714 --> 01:52:36.449 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT DESIGN BUILD BECAUSE 01:52:36.516 --> 01:52:40.753 OUR CURRENT UM, DELIVERY METHOD IS A DESIGN BUILD 01:52:40.820 --> 01:52:44.023 WHERE WE GET ONE ENTITY TO DESIGN AND GO THROUGH 01:52:44.090 --> 01:52:46.593 THE PERMITTING PROCESS OF DIFFERENT PACKAGES 01:52:47.060 --> 01:52:50.363 THE GROUND, THE STEEL FRAMING, THE THE REST OF 01:52:50.430 --> 01:52:51.364 THE BUILDING. 01:52:51.431 --> 01:52:53.466 AND ONCE AND THOSE GETS APPROVED THROUGH 01:52:53.533 --> 01:52:55.602 THE AUTHORITIES HAVING JURISDICTION, THE STATE 01:52:55.668 --> 01:52:58.037 FIRE MARSHAL, DIVISION OF STATE ARCHITECT. 01:52:58.104 --> 01:53:01.674 AND ONCE THOSE ARE ARE APPROVED, THEN WE START 01:53:01.741 --> 01:53:02.675 IN THE CONSTRUCTION. 01:53:02.742 --> 01:53:05.145 SOMETHING LIKE THE MOSS COURTHOUSE IS PROBABLY 01:53:05.211 --> 01:53:07.447 GOING TO TAKE ABOUT SIX YEARS TO CONSTRUCT. 01:53:07.514 --> 01:53:08.948 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT SHOVEL IN THE GROUND 01:53:09.015 --> 01:53:11.751 UNTIL IT GETS COMPLETED, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE 01:53:11.818 --> 01:53:13.219 ABOUT 1,000,000FT². 01:53:14.254 --> 01:53:17.657 SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO CUT THAT TIME DOWN? 01:53:17.724 --> 01:53:19.792 IS IT MANPOWER? 01:53:19.859 --> 01:53:21.794 IS IT LEGISLATION? 01:53:22.495 --> 01:53:23.496 WHAT CAN WE DO? 01:53:23.563 --> 01:53:26.566 BECAUSE, UM, I'LL SPEAK VERY FRANKLY 01:53:26.633 --> 01:53:27.767 AND OPEN WITH YOU. 01:53:28.034 --> 01:53:32.372 UM, I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH, UH, THE BUDGET, 01:53:32.705 --> 01:53:36.676 UH, COMMITTEE, UM, THAT OF US EXPLORING, 01:53:36.743 --> 01:53:39.379 DOING A LEASE REVENUE BOND AND IF WE DO 01:53:39.445 --> 01:53:41.981 A LEASE REVENUE BOND, UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE 01:53:42.048 --> 01:53:43.917 NOT UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO 01:53:43.983 --> 01:53:46.452 BE DEDICATED TOWARDS NEW CONSTRUCTION. 01:53:46.519 --> 01:53:48.555 IT CAN'T BE DONE TOWARDS MAINTENANCE. 01:53:48.855 --> 01:53:53.826 SO IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT 01:53:53.893 --> 01:53:57.931 OF MORE MONEY, WHICH IS WHAT I'M HOPING, PART 01:53:57.997 --> 01:54:00.967 OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS TO AND YOU ALL CAN 01:54:01.034 --> 01:54:02.035 RELATE TO THAT. 01:54:02.235 --> 01:54:03.703 WE HAVE TO MAKE THE CASE. 01:54:03.770 --> 01:54:06.272 WE HAVE TO FIRST SAY THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM, 01:54:06.339 --> 01:54:09.175 THAT MORE COURTHOUSES, MORE MORE JUDGES ARE 01:54:09.242 --> 01:54:10.877 NEEDED IN ORDER TO HAVE MORE JUDGES. 01:54:10.944 --> 01:54:12.312 YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE COURTHOUSES, 01:54:12.378 --> 01:54:13.446 MORE COURTROOMS. 01:54:13.513 --> 01:54:16.416 SO ONCE WE MAKE THAT CASE, WHICH IS WHAT 01:54:16.482 --> 01:54:18.651 WE WERE WORKING ON IN THE FIRST TWO PANELS, 01:54:18.851 --> 01:54:20.453 THEN WE GO TO THIS PART. 01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:23.690 SO IF WE WERE TO POTENTIALLY DO 01:54:23.756 --> 01:54:26.025 A LEASE REVENUE BOND AND SECURE THE SUPPORT 01:54:26.092 --> 01:54:28.695 OF AN INCOMING GOVERNOR AND SO ON, 01:54:28.995 --> 01:54:32.031 AND IF THERE WERE TO BE MORE RESOURCES, WE 01:54:32.098 --> 01:54:35.268 NEED TO KNOW THAT IT CAN BE SOONER THAN 15 01:54:35.335 --> 01:54:36.436 YEARS. HOW? 01:54:36.502 --> 01:54:39.305 MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE GET TO SEVEN YEARS? 01:54:39.606 --> 01:54:41.541 HOW HOW DO WE DO THAT? 01:54:41.608 --> 01:54:42.875 IS IT MORE PEOPLE? 01:54:43.243 --> 01:54:45.612 IS IT A CEQA EXEMPTIONS? 01:54:45.678 --> 01:54:48.681 IS IT, UH, ALL OF THE ABOVE? 01:54:49.082 --> 01:54:51.751 WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO GET THERE? 01:54:51.818 --> 01:54:55.888 AND WHEN WE INITIALLY, UM, PUT THE REQUEST 01:54:55.955 --> 01:55:00.426 IN TO DO MORE MONEY, UM, I WAS TOLD THAT 01:55:00.493 --> 01:55:02.795 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL WAS A LITTLE SHY 01:55:02.862 --> 01:55:05.999 ABOUT, UM, I PUT MONEY IN SPECIFICALLY FOR 01:55:06.366 --> 01:55:09.502 PROGRAM, THE PRE-PROGRAM STUFF, THE, THE PRE 01:55:09.569 --> 01:55:12.138 ACQUISITION, THE PRE MANAGEMENT, THE PRE 01:55:12.205 --> 01:55:15.975 DESIGN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM THAT TAKE 01:55:16.042 --> 01:55:19.712 MONEY AND UM, I WAS TOLD, OH NO, WE DON'T 01:55:19.779 --> 01:55:20.980 REALLY WANT TO SEPARATE IT OUT. 01:55:21.047 --> 01:55:23.016 AND I'M THINKING, WELL DON'T YOU NEED 01:55:23.082 --> 01:55:25.418 MORE MONEY TO KIND OF GET THIS DONE ON 01:55:25.485 --> 01:55:26.419 THE FRONT END? 01:55:26.486 --> 01:55:28.421 AND IT, IT WAS KIND OF POO POOED ON. 01:55:28.621 --> 01:55:32.892 SO, UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT DO 01:55:32.959 --> 01:55:36.896 YOU NEED FROM US TO ACCELERATE THIS? 01:55:38.364 --> 01:55:40.066 AND MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW ALL OF THAT 01:55:40.133 --> 01:55:41.267 ANSWER RIGHT NOW. 01:55:41.334 --> 01:55:42.902 YEAH. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SHARE AND THEN I'LL 01:55:42.969 --> 01:55:45.071 TURN TO JUSTICE HILL IS JUST MADAM CHAIR. 01:55:45.138 --> 01:55:46.339 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING 01:55:46.406 --> 01:55:48.808 ON IN THE ROADMAP TO ACCELERATE 01:55:48.875 --> 01:55:50.943 AND STREAMLINE COURTHOUSE CONSTRUCTION. 01:55:51.277 --> 01:55:53.279 THE BUDGET INCLUDED VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE 01:55:53.346 --> 01:55:55.181 OF THINGS TO LOOK LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR 01:55:55.248 --> 01:55:56.582 INTERNAL PROCESSES. 01:55:57.016 --> 01:55:59.452 THERE'S OVERSIGHT, THERE'S THE CONSTRUCTION 01:55:59.519 --> 01:56:00.953 INDUSTRY WRIT LARGE. 01:56:01.020 --> 01:56:02.689 SO RESOURCES ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE 01:56:02.755 --> 01:56:04.057 A COMPONENT OF THAT. 01:56:04.123 --> 01:56:06.192 BUT THAT REPORT IS REQUIRED TO BE DONE 01:56:06.259 --> 01:56:07.727 IN CONSULTATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT 01:56:07.794 --> 01:56:08.895 OF FINANCE. 01:56:08.961 --> 01:56:11.331 SO JUST WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT. 01:56:11.397 --> 01:56:12.732 IT'S DUE TO DUE TO YOU. 01:56:12.932 --> 01:56:15.168 JANUARY 10TH JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL. 01:56:15.234 --> 01:56:16.736 BUT THEN JUSTICE HILL, DID YOU WANT TO. 01:56:16.803 --> 01:56:19.038 I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, I THINK IN PART 01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:20.940 WE CAN DO IT FASTER. 01:56:21.207 --> 01:56:25.211 UM, AND, AND THAT IS TO GREAT CREDIT TO 01:56:25.278 --> 01:56:28.047 JUDGE TAPIA AND DAVID SLAYTON FROM LA THAT 01:56:28.114 --> 01:56:29.716 WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE. 01:56:30.049 --> 01:56:32.051 AND IN TERMS OF ACQUISITION 01:56:32.118 --> 01:56:34.721 AND FINDING SITES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. 01:56:35.254 --> 01:56:39.225 SO AS, AS SOON AS WE GET THE MONEY AUTHORIZED. 01:56:39.759 --> 01:56:42.528 WE HAVE DONE A COUPLE YEARS WORTH OF WORK 01:56:42.829 --> 01:56:44.964 AT THE FRONT END TO GET READY FOR THAT. 01:56:45.031 --> 01:56:47.667 WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY ENTER INTO ANY AGREEMENTS 01:56:47.734 --> 01:56:50.503 FOR LAND PRIOR TO THAT, BUT A LOT OF 01:56:50.570 --> 01:56:53.206 THE LEGWORK HAS BEEN DONE, SO HOPEFULLY IT 01:56:53.272 --> 01:56:55.508 WON'T BE ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, WELL, 01:56:55.575 --> 01:56:58.478 NOW LET'S START LOOKING FOR OPTIONS. 01:56:58.544 --> 01:57:00.380 WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND LOOKING AT 01:57:00.446 --> 01:57:03.049 OPTIONS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND I THINK 01:57:03.116 --> 01:57:06.052 THAT WILL SHORTEN UP THE PROCESS CONSIDERABLY 01:57:06.119 --> 01:57:08.087 AT THE FRONT END SO THAT WE CAN GET TO 01:57:08.154 --> 01:57:10.156 THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE MUCH FASTER. 01:57:10.490 --> 01:57:11.557 OKAY, SO. 01:57:11.624 --> 01:57:13.359 I'LL JUST ADD ONE. YES, PLEASE. 01:57:14.026 --> 01:57:16.496 WHICH IS, I THINK THIS PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE 01:57:16.562 --> 01:57:18.865 TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE HAD A GOOD PARTNERSHIP 01:57:18.931 --> 01:57:21.033 WITH THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO 01:57:21.834 --> 01:57:24.771 POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION IN LA, BUT THERE ARE 01:57:24.837 --> 01:57:26.339 SOME ISSUES WE'VE ALREADY FLAGGED. 01:57:26.406 --> 01:57:27.673 AND YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THEM. 01:57:28.408 --> 01:57:30.943 LET'S JUST ASSUME OUR GOAL IS TO STAY 01:57:31.010 --> 01:57:32.011 IN THE CIVIC CENTER. 01:57:32.412 --> 01:57:34.313 AND THIS IS NOT UNIQUE. YOU CAN APPLY THIS TO 01:57:34.380 --> 01:57:35.381 OTHER COUNTIES. 01:57:36.015 --> 01:57:39.419 WE HAVE OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES 01:57:39.485 --> 01:57:41.187 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT ALSO 01:57:41.254 --> 01:57:43.389 OTHER AGENCIES, AND WE WILL NEED THE HELP OF 01:57:43.456 --> 01:57:44.424 THE LEGISLATURE. 01:57:45.124 --> 01:57:46.726 FOR INSTANCE, YOU MENTIONED SEQUA. 01:57:47.360 --> 01:57:49.629 THIS IS ONE PROJECT WHERE I GUARANTEE YOU, 01:57:49.695 --> 01:57:52.732 WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU TO ASK YOU FOR A SEQUA 01:57:52.799 --> 01:57:55.468 EXEMPTION, BECAUSE THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WILL 01:57:55.535 --> 01:57:58.104 CUT THIS DOWN A COUPLE OF YEARS IF WE WERE ABLE 01:57:58.171 --> 01:57:59.138 TO GET THAT. 01:57:59.205 --> 01:58:00.773 SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS 01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:03.042 CONVERSATION NOW AND THAT WE CONTINUE 01:58:03.109 --> 01:58:05.445 THE CONVERSATION AND THAT THE LEGISLATURE 01:58:05.511 --> 01:58:09.582 BE FLEXIBLE, BUT ALSO READY TO ACT AT 01:58:09.649 --> 01:58:10.583 A MOMENT'S NOTICE. 01:58:10.650 --> 01:58:12.218 BECAUSE SOMETIMES AND WE'VE EXPERIENCED 01:58:12.285 --> 01:58:15.021 THIS WITH OUR SANTA CLARITA PROJECT, WE WERE 01:58:15.087 --> 01:58:17.824 LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT BECAUSE 01:58:17.890 --> 01:58:20.860 THE PROCESS TAKES SO LONG, THAT OPPORTUNITY 01:58:20.927 --> 01:58:21.894 DISAPPEARED. 01:58:21.961 --> 01:58:24.397 SO WE ARE GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP IN 01:58:24.464 --> 01:58:26.165 THIS EFFORT, NOT JUST HERE IN L.A. 01:58:26.232 --> 01:58:28.401 COUNTY, BUT ACROSS THE STATE, BECAUSE OF 01:58:28.468 --> 01:58:31.103 THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE SEEN AND THAT JUSTICE 01:58:31.170 --> 01:58:33.706 HILL AND OUR COMMITTEE HAVE IDENTIFIED ALREADY. 01:58:33.906 --> 01:58:35.608 SO I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY 01:58:35.675 --> 01:58:38.010 TO CONTINUE THAT PARTICULAR DISCUSSION 01:58:38.077 --> 01:58:39.912 BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT EVERY SINGLE COUNTY. 01:58:40.980 --> 01:58:44.784 SO TO PROTECT YOUR EMAIL INBOX AND OURS, 01:58:44.984 --> 01:58:47.286 FOR THE RECORD, WE'LL SAY WHEN WE SAY CEQA 01:58:47.353 --> 01:58:49.388 EXEMPTIONS, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE PUBLIC 01:58:49.455 --> 01:58:51.524 WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AND HAVE 01:58:51.591 --> 01:58:54.293 AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS AND US 01:58:54.360 --> 01:58:55.294 TO MAKE CHANGES. 01:58:55.361 --> 01:58:57.597 IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE OPERATE AT 01:58:57.663 --> 01:59:01.567 A SPEED STREAMLINE WHERE POSSIBLE, BUT NOT 01:59:01.634 --> 01:59:03.636 DISAVOWING THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. 01:59:03.903 --> 01:59:05.571 JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD, TO SAVE 01:59:05.638 --> 01:59:06.672 YOUR EMAIL AND MINE. 01:59:07.473 --> 01:59:08.975 CONCUR WITH THAT. YES. 01:59:09.342 --> 01:59:11.511 UM, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT. YES. 01:59:12.144 --> 01:59:13.079 EXPLANATION. 01:59:13.145 --> 01:59:14.247 VERY IMPORTANT. 01:59:14.313 --> 01:59:16.749 SO LET ME COME BACK TO THIS JANUARY 01:59:16.816 --> 01:59:17.917 10TH REPORT. 01:59:17.984 --> 01:59:20.319 SO WHAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DO IS PUT ON YOUR 01:59:20.386 --> 01:59:25.725 THINKING CAP AND SAY, UH, IF THE LEGISLATURE, 01:59:25.791 --> 01:59:28.494 EVEN IN OUR TOUGH TIMES, WE'RE ABLE TO THINK OF 01:59:28.561 --> 01:59:32.999 OTHER FINANCIAL WAYS TO SOLVE THESE TREMENDOUS 01:59:33.065 --> 01:59:35.501 PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS INADEQUATE 01:59:35.935 --> 01:59:37.003 COURT SPACE. 01:59:37.737 --> 01:59:40.172 IF YOU WERE TO HAVE DOUBLE THE MONEY, 01:59:40.239 --> 01:59:42.708 TRIPLE THE MONEY, QUADRUPLE THE MONEY, 01:59:43.042 --> 01:59:45.711 WHAT WOULD YOU NEED TO DO TO DO THAT? 01:59:45.778 --> 01:59:46.779 AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. 01:59:46.846 --> 01:59:49.448 THE ANSWER, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY 01:59:49.515 --> 01:59:50.449 PREPARING. 01:59:50.516 --> 01:59:52.852 SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU NEED X AMOUNT 01:59:52.919 --> 01:59:54.053 AND SUPPORT SERVICES. 01:59:54.120 --> 01:59:57.390 DOES IT MEAN YOU NEED TO CONTRACT PROGRAM 01:59:57.456 --> 01:59:58.991 MANAGEMENT FOR EXAMPLE? 01:59:59.258 --> 02:00:00.259 UM WHAT. 02:00:00.326 --> 02:00:01.627 REALLY THINK AGAIN. 02:00:01.694 --> 02:00:02.895 I CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH. 02:00:02.962 --> 02:00:04.096 THINK OUT OF THE BOX. 02:00:04.163 --> 02:00:06.832 DON'T BE RESTRICTIVE ONLY TO WHAT YOU HAVE 02:00:06.899 --> 02:00:08.100 IN YOUR TOOLBOX. 02:00:08.401 --> 02:00:11.137 BUT TO THINK IF WE HAD X BECAUSE THE LAST 02:00:11.203 --> 02:00:14.874 THING WE WANT TO DO IS AUTHORIZE, BUST OUR 02:00:14.941 --> 02:00:17.243 TAILS AND GET IT DONE AND, AND GET THIS, 02:00:17.310 --> 02:00:18.311 THESE FUNDS. 02:00:18.511 --> 02:00:21.047 AND THEN WE JUST SEE TIME AND TIME, WHICH 02:00:21.113 --> 02:00:22.114 TIME IS MONEY. 02:00:22.348 --> 02:00:24.717 SO WE REALLY NEED FOR YOU TO THINK 02:00:24.784 --> 02:00:28.554 ABOUT IF YOU WERE TO HAVE X, HOW CAN YOU 02:00:28.621 --> 02:00:29.789 MAKE THIS HAPPEN? 02:00:29.855 --> 02:00:32.358 AND I KNOW ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS 02:00:32.558 --> 02:00:33.559 ACQUISITION. 02:00:34.393 --> 02:00:36.929 AND SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN 02:00:36.996 --> 02:00:40.032 THOUGH, IS, AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN A COUPLE 02:00:40.099 --> 02:00:42.668 OF THE EXAMPLES WHERE I LOOKED AT, AND IT 02:00:42.735 --> 02:00:44.604 MIGHT BE MORE ON THE FACILITY SIDE THAN 02:00:44.670 --> 02:00:47.039 THE NEW COURTHOUSE OR COURTROOM SIDE. 02:00:47.306 --> 02:00:50.176 BUT IF WE HAVE A CHALLENGE AREA, 02:00:50.242 --> 02:00:51.978 LET'S SAY WE THOUGHT A PROPERTY WAS GOING TO 02:00:52.044 --> 02:00:54.614 BE AVAILABLE, NOT NOW, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE. 02:00:54.947 --> 02:00:58.651 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BROADEN HOW THE AREAS 02:00:58.718 --> 02:01:01.253 YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU NEED 02:01:01.320 --> 02:01:04.590 A BIGGER TEAM OF PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE, 02:01:04.657 --> 02:01:09.762 YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SHOW US HOW YOU CAN 02:01:09.829 --> 02:01:13.699 DO IT, GIVEN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES SO THAT 02:01:13.766 --> 02:01:16.235 WE KNOW WE CAN HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO FIGHT 02:01:16.302 --> 02:01:20.039 FOR AND SAY, OKAY, WE CAN CONSIDER A LEASE 02:01:20.106 --> 02:01:23.109 REVENUE BOND OF X THAT YES, THE JUDICIAL 02:01:23.175 --> 02:01:25.277 COUNCIL, IN ADDITION TO ITS PARTNERS. 02:01:25.344 --> 02:01:27.880 AND OF COURSE, YOUR PARTNERS NEED TO FOLLOW 02:01:27.947 --> 02:01:30.583 ALL THE LABOR RULES THAT WE ALL BELIEVE IN. 02:01:30.650 --> 02:01:32.818 YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU'RE PARTNERING 02:01:33.052 --> 02:01:34.687 WITH SOME DEGREE, BECAUSE I REALIZE YOU 02:01:34.754 --> 02:01:38.057 MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE WITHIN 02:01:38.124 --> 02:01:39.825 A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO DO EVERYTHING. 02:01:39.892 --> 02:01:42.261 SO YOU MAY HAVE TO ENGAGE SOME OTHER 02:01:42.328 --> 02:01:45.498 COMPANIES TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO MEET THESE 02:01:45.564 --> 02:01:48.701 INCREDIBLE DEMANDS THAT WOULD BE AHEAD OF YOU. 02:01:48.768 --> 02:01:52.571 BUT WE REALLY NEED, IN THIS JANUARY 10TH REPORT 02:01:53.572 --> 02:01:57.143 TO TELL US, HOW COULD YOU GET THERE IF YOU 02:01:57.209 --> 02:01:59.945 IF YOU WERE TO RECEIVE THE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT 02:02:00.012 --> 02:02:03.683 OF FUNDS TO ADDRESS THESE NUMEROUS PROJECTS 02:02:03.749 --> 02:02:05.051 THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. 02:02:05.885 --> 02:02:07.386 WE HEAR YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 02:02:07.453 --> 02:02:09.488 I WILL ALSO JUST SAY, AND I MADE THIS 02:02:09.555 --> 02:02:11.357 REMARK, BUT I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON IT. 02:02:11.424 --> 02:02:12.958 THE NOTION THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD 02:02:13.025 --> 02:02:15.127 PARTNERS WITH COUNTIES, WITH COMMUNITIES 02:02:15.194 --> 02:02:16.128 AND OTHERS. 02:02:16.195 --> 02:02:18.597 IT'S ONE OF THE REVELATIONS THAT 02:02:18.664 --> 02:02:21.734 I HAVE HAD, AND I JOINED THE JUDICIAL BRANCH IN 02:02:21.801 --> 02:02:22.735 FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. 02:02:22.802 --> 02:02:25.137 BUT IS THIS NOTION OF HISTORICALLY THE THE 02:02:25.204 --> 02:02:27.106 IDEA OF A COURTHOUSE BEING THE CENTER OF 02:02:27.173 --> 02:02:30.009 A COMMUNITY AND WELCOME AND HISTORICAL 02:02:30.076 --> 02:02:31.343 AND BELOVED AND. 02:02:31.410 --> 02:02:33.112 AND WHO WOULDN'T WANT A COURTHOUSE 02:02:33.179 --> 02:02:34.180 IN THEIR COMMUNITY? 02:02:34.246 --> 02:02:35.681 THAT'S NOT ALWAYS REALITY. 02:02:35.748 --> 02:02:37.750 I WILL JUST TELL YOU, IN MY SHORT TENURE. 02:02:37.817 --> 02:02:39.685 AND SO THE NOTION OF, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE 02:02:39.752 --> 02:02:41.187 THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CONTROL, THERE ARE 02:02:41.253 --> 02:02:42.688 SOME THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL, 02:02:42.755 --> 02:02:44.857 AND WE REALLY DO STRIVE TO BE GOOD PARTNERS. 02:02:45.191 --> 02:02:47.560 SO AND IF I MAY JUST ADD SOMETHING, I MEAN, 02:02:47.626 --> 02:02:50.996 WE ARE, UM, USING OUTSIDE HELP IN ORDER 02:02:51.063 --> 02:02:53.165 TO HELP US WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND DELIVER 02:02:53.232 --> 02:02:54.166 THOSE PROJECTS. 02:02:54.233 --> 02:02:56.702 I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT TODAY, UM, MY 02:02:56.769 --> 02:02:59.405 MANAGER OF REAL ESTATE IS IN KERN COUNTY, 02:02:59.472 --> 02:03:01.507 KERN COUNTY, ONE OF THE AUTHORIZED PROJECTS 02:03:01.574 --> 02:03:03.909 THAT GOT AUTHORIZED THIS YEAR, LOOKING AT 02:03:03.976 --> 02:03:08.214 SITES WITH THE, UH, THE COURSE LEADERSHIP 02:03:08.514 --> 02:03:12.651 AND THEY'RE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING, 02:03:13.152 --> 02:03:16.188 NOT IN THE SEQUEL PERSPECTIVE, BUT TO 02:03:16.255 --> 02:03:17.857 KIND OF LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THAT. 02:03:17.923 --> 02:03:19.825 THERE IS A COURTHOUSE COMING AND WE'RE LOOKING 02:03:19.892 --> 02:03:22.361 FOR PROPERTIES AND SEND US YOUR PROPERTY. 02:03:22.428 --> 02:03:24.396 SO WE ARE MOVING FAST. 02:03:24.463 --> 02:03:26.165 REGARDING ACQUIRING PROPERTIES ON 02:03:26.232 --> 02:03:28.033 THE PROJECTS THAT GOT AUTHORIZED THIS YEAR. 02:03:28.434 --> 02:03:32.138 TODAY WE ARE IN KERN COUNTY LOOKING AT 02:03:32.204 --> 02:03:34.306 PROPERTIES FOR THE NEW COURTHOUSE THERE. 02:03:34.373 --> 02:03:35.441 OKAY. 02:03:35.508 --> 02:03:37.443 AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 02:03:37.510 --> 02:03:40.513 IS ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LOVELY METHODOLOGIES 02:03:40.980 --> 02:03:43.649 AND HOW YOU SELECT WHERE WE'RE GOING. 02:03:44.049 --> 02:03:48.854 UM, AGAIN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO FIGHT THE FIGHT 02:03:49.221 --> 02:03:50.890 TO GET MORE RESOURCES. 02:03:51.223 --> 02:03:53.926 AND JUSTICE HILL MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, 02:03:53.993 --> 02:03:57.229 WHERE THE COMMITMENT TO CONSIDER GREATEST NEED. 02:03:57.496 --> 02:04:00.833 MY ONLY ASK IS, IS THAT IF WE JUMP THROUGH THESE 02:04:00.900 --> 02:04:04.670 TREMENDOUS HOOPS TO MAKE GREATER PROGRESS THAN 02:04:04.737 --> 02:04:08.107 OUR CURRENT PACE, WHICH IS NOT SATISFACTORY. 02:04:09.074 --> 02:04:10.743 WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING 02:04:10.810 --> 02:04:13.345 TO BE FLEXIBILITY IN CONSIDERING THESE 02:04:13.412 --> 02:04:15.581 WONDERFUL METHODOLOGIES THAT YOU'VE HAD IN 02:04:15.648 --> 02:04:19.385 PLACE THAT, YEAH, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO, YOU 02:04:19.451 --> 02:04:21.520 KNOW, DO A NICE LITTLE COURTHOUSE WHEREVER. 02:04:21.587 --> 02:04:23.889 I DON'T WANT TO SAY A PARTICULAR COUNTY'S 02:04:23.956 --> 02:04:26.025 NAME BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY EMAIL BLOWN UP. 02:04:26.292 --> 02:04:30.496 BUT, UM, THERE'S GOT TO BE AT SOME POINT WHERE 02:04:30.563 --> 02:04:33.599 MAYBE YOU CONSIDER X AMOUNT OF MONEY HELPS TO 02:04:33.666 --> 02:04:36.202 FOLLOW YOUR METHODOLOGY, AND THEN YOU HAVE 02:04:36.502 --> 02:04:39.672 ANOTHER POT OF MONEY THAT IS REALLY REACHING 02:04:39.738 --> 02:04:41.974 FOR WHERE THE NEED IS. 02:04:42.041 --> 02:04:44.076 AND WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT, AND WE'RE NOT 02:04:44.143 --> 02:04:47.546 WAITING FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS BEFORE THEY'RE 02:04:47.613 --> 02:04:51.016 EVEN PUT IN THE QUEUE TO START CONSIDERING 02:04:51.083 --> 02:04:53.285 LOCATIONS AND SO ON THAT WE ALL KNOW WHERE 02:04:53.352 --> 02:04:54.286 THE DATA IS. 02:04:54.353 --> 02:04:56.989 WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, UM, THAT, 02:04:57.056 --> 02:05:00.459 THAT WE'RE WILLING TO BE OPEN ENOUGH TO 02:05:00.526 --> 02:05:05.130 CONSIDER, UM, BROADENING METHODOLOGY IDEAS. 02:05:05.764 --> 02:05:07.700 ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR ABOUT 02:05:07.766 --> 02:05:10.369 18 YEARS IN TERMS OF METHODOLOGIES AND, 02:05:10.436 --> 02:05:11.871 AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED. 02:05:11.937 --> 02:05:15.641 AND OVER TIME, WE LEARN AND WE LEARN THROUGH 02:05:15.708 --> 02:05:16.675 HEARINGS LIKE THIS. 02:05:16.742 --> 02:05:19.945 WE LEARN THROUGH PUBLIC INPUT, WE LEARN FROM 02:05:20.012 --> 02:05:21.013 MEETING AFTER MEETING. 02:05:21.080 --> 02:05:23.415 AND SO I AGREE COMPLETELY. 02:05:23.816 --> 02:05:25.184 FLEXIBILITY IS A KEY. 02:05:25.484 --> 02:05:28.621 AND YOU CAN'T DEVELOP A METHODOLOGY IN 2008 02:05:28.854 --> 02:05:30.522 AND SAY THAT'S IT FOR ALL TIME. 02:05:31.023 --> 02:05:33.292 IT WAS CHANGED IN 2019. 02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:36.128 AND IT CHANGES AGAIN TO MAKE IT MORE 02:05:36.195 --> 02:05:38.097 REFLECTIVE OF THE NEEDS OF THE STATE. 02:05:38.297 --> 02:05:39.298 WILL DEFINITELY DO IT. 02:05:39.365 --> 02:05:40.299 THANK YOU. 02:05:40.366 --> 02:05:43.102 AND UM, JUDGE TAPIA DOES NOT KNOW. 02:05:43.168 --> 02:05:44.904 I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION. 02:05:45.104 --> 02:05:47.973 I DON'T WANT ANYONE HERE TO HOLD IT AGAINST HIM. 02:05:48.240 --> 02:05:51.010 UM, BUT I THINK IT LEADS TO WHAT MY 02:05:51.076 --> 02:05:52.077 LAST COMMENT WAS. 02:05:52.144 --> 02:05:56.649 AND THAT IS UM JUDGE TAPIA WHY DID THE LA 02:05:56.715 --> 02:06:01.053 SUPERIOR COURT COUNTY SYSTEM FEEL THE NEED TO 02:06:01.120 --> 02:06:03.188 DO AN ADDITIONAL STUDY? 02:06:03.255 --> 02:06:05.891 I WON'T SAY ASIDE FROM BUT TO BUILD 02:06:05.958 --> 02:06:10.696 UPON WHAT CURRENTLY IS EVALUATED, WHY DID 02:06:10.763 --> 02:06:15.267 THE LA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT SEE A NEED TO DO 02:06:15.334 --> 02:06:17.369 A LITTLE MORE DILIGENCE OR LOOK AT THINGS 02:06:17.436 --> 02:06:20.806 DIFFERENTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE EVERY 02:06:20.873 --> 02:06:23.809 THAT THE FULL NEEDS ARE BEING CONSIDERED. 02:06:24.209 --> 02:06:25.411 WELL, I THINK THE ANSWER IS PRETTY 02:06:25.477 --> 02:06:26.645 SIMPLE. IT'S URGENCY. 02:06:27.279 --> 02:06:29.815 UH, AS WE MENTIONED DURING THE TOUR, WE 02:06:29.882 --> 02:06:32.384 HAVE 36 COURTHOUSES IN THIS COUNTY. 02:06:32.918 --> 02:06:34.553 UM, MORE THAN HALF OF THEM ARE MORE 02:06:34.620 --> 02:06:35.554 THAN 50 YEARS OLD. 02:06:35.621 --> 02:06:37.823 THEY'RE FALLING APART BASED ON THE CURRENT 02:06:37.890 --> 02:06:38.891 METHODOLOGY. 02:06:39.291 --> 02:06:41.527 BY THE TIME WE REPLACE THE NEWEST COURTHOUSE 02:06:41.593 --> 02:06:43.429 IN THIS COUNTY, WHICH IS THE LONG BEACH 02:06:43.495 --> 02:06:46.298 COURTHOUSE, WHICH WAS INAUGURATED RIGHT 02:06:46.365 --> 02:06:50.302 AROUND 2011, 2012, THAT FACILITY WILL NOT GET 02:06:50.369 --> 02:06:53.772 REPLACED FOR ANOTHER 160 YEARS UNDER THE CURRENT 02:06:53.839 --> 02:06:54.840 METHODOLOGY. 02:06:55.074 --> 02:06:57.343 SO WE FELT THAT IT WAS CRITICAL TO SIT 02:06:57.409 --> 02:06:59.611 DOWN AND COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN, TO 02:06:59.678 --> 02:07:03.115 REALLY FOCUS ON DATA, TO ENSURING THAT OUR 02:07:03.182 --> 02:07:07.186 DECISIONS AND OUR PLANS ARE DATA INFORMED TO 02:07:07.252 --> 02:07:08.654 MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE 02:07:08.721 --> 02:07:09.655 SERVE. 02:07:09.722 --> 02:07:11.757 WE HOPE THAT THROUGH THIS STRATEGIC PLAN 02:07:11.824 --> 02:07:14.660 THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING FOR OUR COURT, WE'RE 02:07:14.727 --> 02:07:17.396 ABLE TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR PERHAPS A NEW WAY 02:07:17.463 --> 02:07:19.865 TO LOOK AT COURTHOUSE CONSTRUCTION MOVING 02:07:19.932 --> 02:07:23.002 FORWARD, WHICH IS AGAIN, DATA INFORMED 02:07:23.068 --> 02:07:25.037 BUT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT 02:07:25.104 --> 02:07:26.038 WE SERVE. 02:07:26.105 --> 02:07:27.773 BUT REALLY, IT COMES DOWN TO URGENCY. 02:07:28.240 --> 02:07:30.042 OUR BUILDINGS, AS YOU HAVE SEEN HERE IN 02:07:30.109 --> 02:07:32.177 COMPTON, ARE FALLING APART, BUT YOU SEE 02:07:32.244 --> 02:07:34.179 THE SAME THINGS IN SAN BERNARDINO 02:07:34.246 --> 02:07:36.648 AND RIVERSIDE, IN TULARE, YOU NAME 02:07:36.715 --> 02:07:37.616 THE COUNTY. 02:07:37.683 --> 02:07:39.985 THERE ARE OLD FACILITIES THERE, TOO, AND WE NEED 02:07:40.052 --> 02:07:42.221 TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING 02:07:42.287 --> 02:07:45.657 TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM, TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET 02:07:45.724 --> 02:07:48.227 THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE BOTH SERVE. 02:07:48.861 --> 02:07:49.862 OKAY. 02:07:50.295 --> 02:07:51.630 ANY COMMENTS TO THAT? 02:07:53.065 --> 02:07:54.833 IT WILL BE GOOD PARTNERS AND. 02:07:55.067 --> 02:07:56.335 AND IT'S A NEW DAY. 02:07:56.402 --> 02:07:59.304 THANKS IN GREAT MEASURE TO YOU AND ALL 02:07:59.371 --> 02:08:00.906 OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND WE 02:08:00.973 --> 02:08:02.508 THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING 02:08:02.574 --> 02:08:04.043 WITH YOU. THANK YOU SIR. 02:08:04.510 --> 02:08:05.844 OKAY. NO OTHER. 02:08:05.911 --> 02:08:06.912 QUESTIONS. 02:08:07.312 --> 02:08:09.214 ONE QUESTION ON THE ASSESSMENT. 02:08:09.281 --> 02:08:10.616 IT'S EVERY TEN YEARS. 02:08:11.784 --> 02:08:12.718 THE LAST ASSESSMENT. 02:08:12.785 --> 02:08:14.353 WAS DONE IN 2019. 02:08:14.887 --> 02:08:17.689 IT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEEN FUNDED TO BE REPEATED. 02:08:17.756 --> 02:08:19.158 OUR ADVOCACY IS. 02:08:19.224 --> 02:08:21.260 WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO UPDATE 02:08:21.326 --> 02:08:23.529 A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT EVERY TEN 02:08:23.595 --> 02:08:24.596 YEARS. 02:08:25.464 --> 02:08:28.567 THANK YOU. AND ON THE ACQUISITION. 02:08:29.068 --> 02:08:31.970 UM, CLEARLY THAT'S IT'S A PROBLEM 02:08:32.037 --> 02:08:36.008 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T START THE ACQUISITION 02:08:36.075 --> 02:08:38.077 UNTIL YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. 02:08:38.343 --> 02:08:41.814 BUT ARE THERE IN SOMETHING THAT YOU 02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:43.949 ALL SAID THAT YOU'VE HAD BEEN HAVING 02:08:44.016 --> 02:08:45.284 THESE DISCUSSIONS? 02:08:45.517 --> 02:08:49.254 UH, JUSTICE HILL AND, AND JUDGE 02:08:49.321 --> 02:08:51.356 TAPIA, UM, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN HAVING 02:08:51.423 --> 02:08:52.524 THESE DISCUSSIONS. 02:08:53.092 --> 02:08:54.093 IS THERE? 02:08:55.194 --> 02:08:57.596 I'M JUST AGAIN, THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. 02:08:57.663 --> 02:08:59.531 I LOVE BEING WITH SENATOR RICHARDSON 02:08:59.598 --> 02:09:03.368 BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T JUST SAY, HERE'S 02:09:03.435 --> 02:09:04.703 THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE. 02:09:04.770 --> 02:09:06.305 HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN? 02:09:06.572 --> 02:09:08.040 IT'S THIS IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE. 02:09:08.107 --> 02:09:09.808 TELL ME EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO. 02:09:09.875 --> 02:09:11.543 AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH BECAUSE 02:09:11.610 --> 02:09:14.513 I THINK THAT'S HOW WE GET GOOD LEGISLATION. 02:09:14.880 --> 02:09:17.483 SO IN TRYING TO TO THINK THROUGH. 02:09:20.152 --> 02:09:22.321 I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE OF SAN BERNARDINO, ALTHOUGH 02:09:22.387 --> 02:09:25.023 IT'S IT'S NOT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, BUT I'LL 02:09:25.090 --> 02:09:28.760 USE THE EXAMPLE OF SAN BERNARDINO THAT THEY'RE 02:09:28.827 --> 02:09:33.899 NOT NEXT IN LINE TO TO GET FUNDING FOR NEW 02:09:33.966 --> 02:09:34.900 COURTHOUSE. 02:09:34.967 --> 02:09:35.901 BUT WE KNOW THEY NEED A NEW 02:09:35.968 --> 02:09:38.303 COURTHOUSE AND IT'S ALREADY ON THE LIST. 02:09:38.570 --> 02:09:43.375 AND THE LONGER THEY WAIT, THE THE LESS LAND 02:09:43.442 --> 02:09:44.610 THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. 02:09:45.010 --> 02:09:46.979 I KNOW IN VICTORVILLE, THERE'S A PIECE OF 02:09:47.045 --> 02:09:48.046 LAND THERE. 02:09:48.280 --> 02:09:50.249 MY COLLEAGUE, ASSEMBLYMEMBER CARRILLO, 02:09:50.482 --> 02:09:53.886 UM, TALKED ABOUT IT AND BUT THEY'RE NOT ON 02:09:53.952 --> 02:09:55.020 THE LIST YET. 02:09:55.087 --> 02:09:58.423 AND SO BY THE TIME THEY THEIR NAME GETS UP TO 02:09:58.490 --> 02:10:00.759 THE TOP, BY THAT TIME, THAT LAND IS GONE. 02:10:00.826 --> 02:10:03.028 AND YET IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE COURTHOUSE. 02:10:03.095 --> 02:10:05.597 IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE? 02:10:06.031 --> 02:10:11.003 UM, THAT SO THAT THERE IS, UH, LIKE FIRST RIGHT 02:10:11.069 --> 02:10:13.138 OF REFUSAL OR SOMETHING? 02:10:13.205 --> 02:10:15.707 I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT COUNTY BUILDINGS, THAT 02:10:15.774 --> 02:10:17.409 THE LEASE IS GOING TO BE ENDING, AND SO 02:10:17.476 --> 02:10:18.677 YOU'LL BE NEXT IN LINE. 02:10:19.144 --> 02:10:22.281 SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT WE WOULD BE 02:10:22.347 --> 02:10:25.517 ABLE TO USE BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THE DATE 02:10:25.584 --> 02:10:26.518 IS COMING. 02:10:26.585 --> 02:10:28.654 WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN BECAUSE WE DON'T 02:10:28.720 --> 02:10:30.255 KNOW WHEN THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE THERE. 02:10:30.989 --> 02:10:31.990 I WILL SAY. 02:10:32.057 --> 02:10:34.826 GENERALLY SPEAKING, YES, WE DON'T OR WE'RE NOT 02:10:34.893 --> 02:10:36.795 AUTHORIZED TO ACQUIRE LAND BEFORE WE HAVE 02:10:36.862 --> 02:10:37.796 AN APPROVED PROJECT. 02:10:37.863 --> 02:10:39.831 AND THERE'S RATIONALE BEHIND THAT. 02:10:39.898 --> 02:10:41.333 AND I WILL SAY THE NOTION THAT, WELL, 02:10:41.400 --> 02:10:42.834 THAT'S THE WAY IT'S DONE OR THAT'S THE WAY IT'S 02:10:42.901 --> 02:10:44.636 ALWAYS DONE, I THINK YOU'LL HEAR FROM US. 02:10:44.703 --> 02:10:46.071 THAT'S NOT OUR THINKING. RIGHT. 02:10:46.138 --> 02:10:48.974 WE AIM TO THINK CREATIVELY AND, AND NEW 02:10:49.041 --> 02:10:50.842 WAYS AND FLEXIBILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT 02:10:50.909 --> 02:10:51.910 AS WELL. 02:10:52.244 --> 02:10:54.546 ONE OF THE RISKS THOUGH IS, IS PLANS 02:10:54.613 --> 02:10:55.547 CHANGE, RIGHT? 02:10:55.614 --> 02:10:57.916 YOU HAVE LEADERSHIP CHANGES WITHIN 02:10:57.983 --> 02:11:01.520 THE COURTS OR COUNTIES, ETC., WHERE, YOU KNOW, 02:11:01.587 --> 02:11:03.555 THE RISK IS WE END UP WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY 02:11:03.622 --> 02:11:05.724 THAT THAT WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF 02:11:05.791 --> 02:11:06.959 THE STATE. SO. 02:11:08.227 --> 02:11:09.962 AND ONE THING ON THAT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU 02:11:10.028 --> 02:11:12.831 COMPLETELY BECAUSE I'VE, SEEN CIRCUMSTANCES 02:11:12.898 --> 02:11:15.267 WHERE THE COURT WILL COME AND SAY, WE HAVE 02:11:15.334 --> 02:11:16.835 THE PERFECT PIECE OF LAND. 02:11:17.669 --> 02:11:20.005 HOW DO WE HOW DO WE CAPTURE THIS? 02:11:20.072 --> 02:11:22.374 OR HOW DO WE INDICATE TO THE OWNER THAT 02:11:22.441 --> 02:11:23.609 WE'D LIKE TO BUY IT? 02:11:23.675 --> 02:11:26.044 AND THE PROBLEM, OF COURSE, IS THEY'RE 02:11:26.111 --> 02:11:27.145 DOWN THE LIST. 02:11:27.579 --> 02:11:29.915 WE CAN'T GET THE FUNDING FOR IT. 02:11:30.115 --> 02:11:32.517 AND MOST PRIVATE LANDOWNERS ARE NOT 02:11:32.584 --> 02:11:35.120 WILLING TO JUST SAY, WELL, WE KNOW YOU'D 02:11:35.187 --> 02:11:37.956 REALLY LIKE IT, AND WE'LL SOMEHOW 02:11:38.156 --> 02:11:40.792 PUT IT IN ABEYANCE JUST FOR YOU. 02:11:40.859 --> 02:11:44.129 AND SO WE'VE HAD THAT THAT PROBLEM IN SANTA 02:11:44.196 --> 02:11:47.633 CLARITA, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE WE'VE HAD A PIECE 02:11:47.699 --> 02:11:50.669 OF LAND AND THE CITY SAID, SEE IF YOU CAN, 02:11:50.736 --> 02:11:51.670 YOU KNOW, DO THIS. 02:11:51.737 --> 02:11:54.273 AND THE LANDOWNER SAID TO US, IT'S GOING TO 02:11:54.339 --> 02:11:55.374 TAKE YOU TOO LONG. 02:11:55.440 --> 02:11:56.708 YOU DON'T YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE 02:11:56.775 --> 02:11:57.843 A COUPLE OF YEARS. 02:11:58.076 --> 02:12:00.512 I HAVE A BUYER RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING TO 02:12:00.579 --> 02:12:01.580 WRITE ME A CHECK. 02:12:01.813 --> 02:12:04.816 SO WE'RE COMPETING WITH OTHERS ON THAT. 02:12:04.883 --> 02:12:07.653 AND AND YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT. 02:12:07.719 --> 02:12:10.055 AND IT'S SOMETHING WE LIVE WITH EVERY 02:12:10.122 --> 02:12:13.258 DAY THAT WE WISH THAT GOVERNMENT MOVED 02:12:13.325 --> 02:12:14.293 A LITTLE BIT FASTER. 02:12:14.359 --> 02:12:19.031 BUT, UM, AS WE ALL SOMETIMES RUE THE, 02:12:19.231 --> 02:12:21.600 THE SLOWNESS OF THE PROCESS, BUT WE'RE 02:12:21.667 --> 02:12:23.769 ALSO BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS FUNDS 02:12:23.835 --> 02:12:26.405 BECAUSE WE CAN'T SPEND IT UNTIL YOU TELL US 02:12:26.471 --> 02:12:27.539 THAT WE CAN. 02:12:28.307 --> 02:12:29.741 ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 02:12:29.808 --> 02:12:30.742 THANK YOU. 02:12:30.809 --> 02:12:32.844 I THINK, THOUGH, BUILDING ON WHAT SENATOR 02:12:32.911 --> 02:12:36.114 REYES IS SAYING, AND WE BOTH HAPPEN TO BE 02:12:36.181 --> 02:12:38.116 SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS ON THE BUDGET. 02:12:38.517 --> 02:12:41.987 AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, THOUGH, 02:12:42.054 --> 02:12:46.792 IS WE NEED FOR YOU TO COME TO US AND TELL US 02:12:46.858 --> 02:12:48.226 AND GIVE US AN OPTION. 02:12:48.493 --> 02:12:49.828 WE'RE NOT HEARING THOSE. 02:12:50.028 --> 02:12:52.030 I'VE BEEN ON THIS SUBCOMMITTEE TWO YEARS 02:12:52.364 --> 02:12:54.666 THAT HANDLES JUDICIARY, AND NO ONE HAS COME TO 02:12:54.733 --> 02:12:59.037 ME AND SAY AND SAID, HEY, WE IF WE COULD 02:12:59.104 --> 02:13:02.641 REALLY GET $1 BILLION, WE COULD HELP SOLVE THIS 02:13:02.708 --> 02:13:05.844 PROBLEM THAT WE SEE TO EVEN HAVE ME BRING, 02:13:05.911 --> 02:13:07.612 BRING IT FORWARD TO TRY. 02:13:07.679 --> 02:13:11.016 NO ONE HAS DONE THAT IN MY TWO YEARS AS CHAIR. 02:13:11.416 --> 02:13:13.919 SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS WE 02:13:13.985 --> 02:13:17.222 REALIZE THE TECHNICAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, 02:13:17.289 --> 02:13:18.523 THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 02:13:18.590 --> 02:13:21.126 BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO YOU IS IF YOU'RE 02:13:21.193 --> 02:13:24.396 SEEING OPPORTUNITIES, IF YOU'RE SEEING, HEY, 02:13:24.463 --> 02:13:26.832 IF I KNEW THAT I WOULD HAVE X AMOUNT TO BE ABLE 02:13:26.898 --> 02:13:30.102 TO PUT DOWN FOR THAT, TELL US AND, AND LET US 02:13:30.168 --> 02:13:31.169 AT LEAST TRY. 02:13:31.603 --> 02:13:34.272 BUT IF WE DON'T EVEN KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW 02:13:34.339 --> 02:13:36.007 WHAT'S OUT THERE OR WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, 02:13:36.074 --> 02:13:39.111 NECESSARILY VICTORVILLE OR SANTA CLARITA OR LA 02:13:39.177 --> 02:13:41.113 OR WHATEVER. WE DON'T KNOW THAT. 02:13:41.179 --> 02:13:45.884 SO I CHALLENGE YOU TO COME TO US NOT ONLY 02:13:45.951 --> 02:13:48.186 WITH WHAT YOU'RE COMING TO US IN JANUARY 10TH, 02:13:48.253 --> 02:13:49.621 BUT GOING FORWARD. 02:13:49.688 --> 02:13:51.189 AND FRANKLY, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM 02:13:51.256 --> 02:13:53.625 WITH TERM LIMITS AND US CONTINUALLY CHANGING, 02:13:53.692 --> 02:13:56.561 IS YOU GOT TO REEDUCATE THE NEW CHAIR WHO COMES 02:13:56.628 --> 02:13:58.029 IN, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS LATER. 02:13:58.096 --> 02:14:01.133 AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER SUBJECT THAT, UM, 02:14:01.333 --> 02:14:04.369 WE NEED TO INTERNALLY DISCUSS NOT JUST US 02:14:04.436 --> 02:14:07.005 TWO, BUT THE BROADER OF MEMBERS. 02:14:07.272 --> 02:14:10.709 BUT WE NEED FOR YOU TO COME TO US AND DON'T 02:14:10.776 --> 02:14:12.644 BE SHY AND PUT IT ON THE TABLE. 02:14:12.911 --> 02:14:16.148 IF WE DON'T BITE, THAT FAULT THEN IS ON US. 02:14:16.415 --> 02:14:19.418 BUT AT LEAST LET US KNOW SO THAT MAYBE WE 02:14:19.484 --> 02:14:20.419 CAN FIGURE IT OUT. 02:14:20.485 --> 02:14:21.853 BECAUSE YOU'D BE SURPRISED WHAT 02:14:22.187 --> 02:14:23.188 WHAT GETS DONE. 02:14:23.755 --> 02:14:25.056 WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE OFFER. 02:14:25.123 --> 02:14:27.993 WE PROMISE NOT TO WEAR OUT OUR WELCOME, 02:14:28.059 --> 02:14:29.828 BUT WE APPRECIATE THE OFFER, AND WE'LL 02:14:29.895 --> 02:14:30.829 TAKE YOU UP ON IT. 02:14:30.896 --> 02:14:32.697 YEAH. JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. 02:14:34.299 --> 02:14:36.368 PERHAPS IT CAN'T BE. 02:14:36.435 --> 02:14:38.236 IT CAN'T BE YOUR MONEY THAT'S USED 02:14:38.303 --> 02:14:39.371 TO PURCHASE IT. 02:14:39.571 --> 02:14:42.874 BUT MAYBE THE STATE WILL SAY THE CIRCUMSTANCES 02:14:43.074 --> 02:14:45.177 ARE JUST SO PERFECT. 02:14:45.644 --> 02:14:46.912 I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 02:14:47.112 --> 02:14:52.284 GOLDEN GOLDEN GATE FIELDS STATE INVESTED 02:14:52.350 --> 02:14:56.488 $125 MILLION TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY IN SAN 02:14:56.555 --> 02:14:59.858 FRANCISCO BECAUSE IT WAS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME 02:14:59.925 --> 02:15:00.926 OPPORTUNITY. 02:15:01.426 --> 02:15:04.763 AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THIS LAND 02:15:04.830 --> 02:15:08.667 IN SAN FRANCISCO THAT IS TO BE USED AS A PARK 02:15:08.733 --> 02:15:09.868 FOR FOR EVERYONE. 02:15:10.435 --> 02:15:14.105 THEN PERHAPS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT 02:15:14.172 --> 02:15:16.875 WOULD WARRANT THAT KIND OF ATTENTION ALSO. 02:15:17.075 --> 02:15:19.711 JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHERE WE KNOW THAT 02:15:19.778 --> 02:15:21.913 IF WE FOLLOW THE RULES, ABSOLUTELY WE SHOULD 02:15:21.980 --> 02:15:24.749 NOT ACQUIRE A PIECE OF LAND UNLESS WE'RE READY 02:15:24.816 --> 02:15:25.984 TO START BUILDING. 02:15:26.051 --> 02:15:27.819 AND IF WE BUY THAT LAND AND NOW WE HAVE TO PAY 02:15:27.886 --> 02:15:28.954 TAXES ON THE LAND. 02:15:29.187 --> 02:15:30.222 I GET IT. 02:15:30.455 --> 02:15:33.425 BUT SOMETIMES THE OPPORTUNITY IS JUST, 02:15:33.725 --> 02:15:35.227 JUST ONCE IN A LIFETIME. 02:15:35.494 --> 02:15:38.864 UM, AND THE ONLY WAY WE WILL KNOW IS 02:15:38.930 --> 02:15:42.501 IF THOSE WHO KNOW THE LAY OF THE LAND 02:15:42.567 --> 02:15:45.604 TELL US THIS ONE IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME. 02:15:45.670 --> 02:15:47.272 BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH 02:15:47.339 --> 02:15:49.875 THE GOLDEN, GOLDEN GOLDEN STATE FIELDS. 02:15:50.375 --> 02:15:53.044 AND WE PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET. 02:15:53.111 --> 02:15:55.180 IT HAPPENED TO BE IN MY SUBCOMMITTEE. 02:15:55.514 --> 02:15:58.450 UM, AND I HAD TO BE CONVINCED OF IT. 02:15:59.017 --> 02:16:01.286 HOW ARE WE TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM OTHER AREAS 02:16:01.353 --> 02:16:02.954 TO PURCHASE THIS? 02:16:03.021 --> 02:16:04.623 BUT ONCE IN A LIFETIME. 02:16:04.689 --> 02:16:07.759 AND I THINK WHEN WE SEE THAT AND IF WE 02:16:07.826 --> 02:16:10.996 WAIT, IT'LL JUST BE DOUBLE, TRIPLE ANYWAY. 02:16:11.062 --> 02:16:14.099 JUST JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 02:16:15.233 --> 02:16:16.234 THANK YOU. 02:16:16.635 --> 02:16:19.070 WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THIS PANEL. 02:16:19.137 --> 02:16:20.906 I THINK SOME OF YOU ARE HANGING AROUND FOR 02:16:20.972 --> 02:16:23.608 THE NEXT ONE, WHICH WE APPRECIATE, BUT PLEASE 02:16:23.675 --> 02:16:24.976 DON'T SNEAK OFF. 02:16:25.043 --> 02:16:28.046 WE ARE GOING TO WORK TO GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT 02:16:28.113 --> 02:16:31.983 AT 345 SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE OUT OF HERE, NOT 02:16:32.050 --> 02:16:35.053 OUT OF HERE, BUT GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY 02:16:35.120 --> 02:16:37.622 TO HEAD OUT BY 4 P.M., WHICH WAS OUR PROMISE. 02:16:37.822 --> 02:16:39.457 SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO 02:16:39.524 --> 02:16:40.525 PANEL FOUR. 02:16:41.693 --> 02:16:43.528 FINALLY, WE'LL HAVE THE FACILITIES 02:16:43.595 --> 02:16:46.731 MODIFICATION AND MAINTENANCE SECTION. 02:16:46.932 --> 02:16:49.568 THE PANELISTS BEFORE US IS STILL CONTINUING. 02:16:49.634 --> 02:16:50.669 UM, MR. 02:16:50.735 --> 02:16:54.139 DREW SODERBERG FROM THE LEGISLATIVE 02:16:54.205 --> 02:16:56.074 ANALYST'S OFFICE, FOLLOWED BY JUSTICE 02:16:56.141 --> 02:16:57.375 HILL, WHO'S STILL HERE. 02:16:57.609 --> 02:17:02.714 UM, MADAM ERICA SPERBECK AND WE ALSO HAVE JOINING 02:17:02.781 --> 02:17:07.118 US, DAVID SLAYTON, WHO IS NEW TO THE PANEL. 02:17:07.185 --> 02:17:08.620 AND WE'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH 02:17:08.687 --> 02:17:10.922 MR. HUBBARD. OKAY. 02:17:12.424 --> 02:17:14.559 AND MR. Z IS IN THE WINGS. 02:17:15.393 --> 02:17:16.628 HE'S IN THE WINGS THERE. 02:17:16.695 --> 02:17:18.296 ALL RIGHT, MR. SODERBERGH. 02:17:18.897 --> 02:17:21.232 ALL RIGHT. IF YOU TURN TO PAGE SEVEN OF YOUR 02:17:21.299 --> 02:17:23.335 HANDOUT, YOU'LL SEE A DISCUSSION OF FACILITY 02:17:23.401 --> 02:17:25.103 MODIFICATION PROJECTS. 02:17:25.170 --> 02:17:27.539 THESE PROJECTS INVOLVE PHYSICAL CHANGES TO 02:17:27.606 --> 02:17:30.709 A FACILITY OR ITS BUILDING COMPONENTS 02:17:30.775 --> 02:17:33.578 THAT IMPROVE ITS DESIGN LEVEL OF FUNCTIONALITY. 02:17:33.878 --> 02:17:35.146 BUT HOWEVER, THESE PROJECTS ARE 02:17:35.213 --> 02:17:37.182 GENERALLY SMALLER THAN THE CONSTRUCTION 02:17:37.248 --> 02:17:40.218 PROJECTS WE WERE DISCUSSING PREVIOUSLY. 02:17:40.485 --> 02:17:42.487 FUNDING IS PROVIDED ANNUALLY FOR THESE 02:17:42.554 --> 02:17:44.623 PROJECTS IN THE STATE BUDGET THAT CURRENTLY 02:17:44.689 --> 02:17:48.059 AMOUNTS TO $80 MILLION, INCLUDING 65 MILLION 02:17:48.126 --> 02:17:50.328 FROM THE STATE COURT FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION 02:17:50.395 --> 02:17:54.099 FUND AND $15 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 02:17:54.165 --> 02:17:55.867 AND THESE DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED AT 02:17:55.934 --> 02:17:58.570 THE DISCRETION OF JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 02:17:59.137 --> 02:18:03.174 HOWEVER, THE 2627 BUDGET DID INCLUDE A ONE TIME 02:18:03.241 --> 02:18:05.076 AUGMENTATION FOR ORANGE. 02:18:05.277 --> 02:18:06.478 THE ORANGE. CENTRAL. 02:18:07.045 --> 02:18:09.881 THE ORANGE CENTRAL JUSTICE CENTER PROJECT. 02:18:10.248 --> 02:18:12.984 SPECIFICALLY, THE BUDGET PROVIDED 36 MILLION FROM 02:18:13.051 --> 02:18:15.553 THE GENERAL FUND AND 3.6 MILLION FROM THE STATE 02:18:15.620 --> 02:18:17.689 COURT FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION FUND IN 02:18:17.756 --> 02:18:21.793 2627 AND A SIMILAR AMOUNT IN 2728. 02:18:22.260 --> 02:18:24.863 IF YOU TURN TO PAGE EIGHT OF THE HANDOUT, 02:18:24.929 --> 02:18:27.932 YOU'LL SEE A DISCUSSION OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE 02:18:27.999 --> 02:18:31.936 PROJECTS, WHICH ARE DISTINCT FROM FACILITY 02:18:32.003 --> 02:18:33.872 MODIFICATION PROJECTS. 02:18:33.938 --> 02:18:36.141 TRIAL COURT FACILITY OPERATIONS 02:18:36.207 --> 02:18:38.176 AND MAINTENANCE MONIES ARE USED TO SUPPORT 02:18:38.243 --> 02:18:41.079 ONGOING FACILITY OPERATIONS, REPAIRS 02:18:41.146 --> 02:18:42.113 AND MAINTENANCE. 02:18:42.313 --> 02:18:43.915 THESE INCLUDE PREVENTATIVE 02:18:43.982 --> 02:18:46.651 AND ROUTINE MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT, REPLACEMENT 02:18:46.718 --> 02:18:48.286 UTILITIES AND LEASES. 02:18:48.653 --> 02:18:52.290 A TOTAL OF $198 MILLION, INCLUDING $104 02:18:52.357 --> 02:18:54.659 MILLION FROM THE COURT FACILITIES TRUST 02:18:54.726 --> 02:18:57.495 FUND AND $94 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL 02:18:57.562 --> 02:19:00.098 FUND IS PROVIDED ANNUALLY TO SUPPORT 02:19:00.165 --> 02:19:02.600 FACILITY OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. 02:19:02.667 --> 02:19:04.703 ALSO, OCCASIONALLY FACILITY 02:19:04.769 --> 02:19:07.172 AND MODIFICATION MONEY IS PROVIDED FOR 02:19:07.238 --> 02:19:08.440 MAINTENANCE REASONS. 02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:10.809 DESPITE THIS ONGOING FUNDING THAT'S 02:19:10.875 --> 02:19:13.178 AVAILABLE, THERE ARE MANY UNMET 02:19:13.244 --> 02:19:14.212 MAINTENANCE NEEDS. 02:19:14.279 --> 02:19:16.548 WHEN A MAINTENANCE NEED IS UNMET, IT IS 02:19:16.614 --> 02:19:19.350 CONSIDERED A DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECT. 02:19:19.551 --> 02:19:22.420 AS OF AUGUST 2026, THE JUDICIAL BRANCH 02:19:22.487 --> 02:19:26.658 IDENTIFIED 22,356 DEFERRED MAINTENANCE 02:19:26.725 --> 02:19:29.861 PROJECTS, WITH ABOUT JUST OVER 22,000 02:19:29.928 --> 02:19:33.364 RELATED TO TRIAL COURTS AND ABOUT 187 RELATED 02:19:33.431 --> 02:19:35.800 TO APPELLATE COURTS, AND THE TOTAL VALUE OF 02:19:35.867 --> 02:19:39.270 THESE PROJECTS AMOUNTED TO $6.1 BILLION. 02:19:39.504 --> 02:19:44.209 THE 2627 BUDGET PROVIDED $151 MILLION 02:19:44.275 --> 02:19:46.778 IN ADDITIONAL ONE TIME FUNDING TO ADDRESS 02:19:46.845 --> 02:19:49.380 SOME OF THESE NEEDS, INCLUDING 1 MILLION 02:19:49.447 --> 02:19:51.049 SPECIFICALLY FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE 02:19:51.116 --> 02:19:53.418 AND OTHER EXTENSIVE REPAIRS AT THE COMPTON 02:19:53.485 --> 02:19:54.486 COURTHOUSE. 02:19:54.953 --> 02:19:57.889 HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS WHEN WHEN 02:19:57.956 --> 02:19:59.090 THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE. 02:20:01.693 --> 02:20:03.595 THANK YOU, MR. SLAYTON. 02:20:03.995 --> 02:20:04.929 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. 02:20:04.996 --> 02:20:07.532 RICHARDSON AND SENATOR GOMEZ REYES, THANK 02:20:07.599 --> 02:20:09.434 YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HEARING TODAY. 02:20:09.934 --> 02:20:11.369 I'M DAVID SLAYTON, I'M THE EXECUTIVE 02:20:11.436 --> 02:20:13.004 OFFICER AND CLERK OF THE SUPERIOR COURT OF 02:20:13.071 --> 02:20:14.205 LOS ANGELES COUNTY. 02:20:14.472 --> 02:20:16.975 I'M ALSO SERVING THIS YEAR AS THE CHAIR OF 02:20:17.041 --> 02:20:18.943 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL'S COURT EXECUTIVES 02:20:19.010 --> 02:20:20.078 ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 02:20:20.445 --> 02:20:22.347 SO I SPEAK TODAY NOT ONLY FOR OUR 02:20:22.413 --> 02:20:23.648 COURT, BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF 02:20:23.715 --> 02:20:25.984 TRIAL COURT EXECUTIVES ACROSS CALIFORNIA. 02:20:26.484 --> 02:20:27.986 CHAIR RICHARDSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS 02:20:28.052 --> 02:20:30.288 HEARING TO COMPTON AND FOR CHAMPIONING 02:20:30.355 --> 02:20:32.357 COURT INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, INCLUDING 02:20:32.423 --> 02:20:34.926 THE 88% INCREASE IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE 02:20:34.993 --> 02:20:36.795 FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ACT. 02:20:37.428 --> 02:20:38.596 AS YOU HEARD ON THE LAST PANEL, 02:20:38.663 --> 02:20:40.532 THERE HAVE BEEN MANY COURTHOUSES OPENED IN 02:20:40.598 --> 02:20:41.966 THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 02:20:42.267 --> 02:20:43.868 JUDGE TAPIA MENTIONED THAT THE LAST ONE TO 02:20:43.935 --> 02:20:46.604 OPEN IN LA WAS LONG BEACH IN 2013. 02:20:47.038 --> 02:20:49.107 26 OTHER COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA HAVE 02:20:49.174 --> 02:20:51.609 OPENED A COURTHOUSE SINCE LA OPENED OUR 02:20:51.676 --> 02:20:52.744 LAST COURTHOUSE. 02:20:52.811 --> 02:20:53.778 HENCE, MANY OF THE ISSUES I'M 02:20:53.845 --> 02:20:55.246 GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO 02:20:55.313 --> 02:20:57.081 DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN OUR COURT. 02:20:57.615 --> 02:20:59.050 DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AS MR. 02:20:59.117 --> 02:21:00.685 SODERBERGH MENTIONED, IS THE REPAIR 02:21:00.752 --> 02:21:03.054 AND REPLACEMENT WORK A BUILDING NEEDS 02:21:03.121 --> 02:21:06.858 BUT HASN'T RECEIVED PIPES, ROOFS, HEATING 02:21:06.925 --> 02:21:09.661 AND COOLING, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, ELEVATORS 02:21:09.727 --> 02:21:10.762 AND ESCALATORS. 02:21:11.129 --> 02:21:13.498 EVERY PROJECT WE PUT OFF BECOMES A LARGER, 02:21:13.565 --> 02:21:16.301 MORE EXPENSIVE FAILURE, AND THE PEOPLE WHO 02:21:16.367 --> 02:21:19.370 PAY FOR IT ARE THE LITIGANTS, JURORS 02:21:19.437 --> 02:21:21.840 AND FAMILIES WHO COME TO OUR COURTHOUSES. 02:21:22.674 --> 02:21:23.942 SOME OF YOU SAW FIRSTHAND THIS 02:21:24.008 --> 02:21:25.276 MORNING ON THE TOUR OF THE COMPTON 02:21:25.343 --> 02:21:28.046 COURTHOUSE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OVER FIVE 02:21:28.112 --> 02:21:30.448 DAYS THIS AUGUST, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. 02:21:30.682 --> 02:21:32.317 FOUR SEPARATE LEAKS AND PLUMBING 02:21:32.383 --> 02:21:34.118 FAILURES STRUCK THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE 02:21:34.185 --> 02:21:35.186 SITTING IN TODAY. 02:21:35.653 --> 02:21:37.822 ONE SPREAD ACROSS THREE FLOORS, DAMAGING 02:21:37.889 --> 02:21:39.390 FILES AND OFFICES. 02:21:39.924 --> 02:21:41.826 OTHERS DISPLACED PUBLIC DEFENDER STAFF 02:21:41.893 --> 02:21:44.495 AND THE EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN FORCED FORCED 02:21:44.562 --> 02:21:46.331 ASBESTOS CONTAINMENT IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS 02:21:46.397 --> 02:21:48.733 OFFICES AND CLOSED RESTROOMS. 02:21:49.334 --> 02:21:52.237 THIS COURTHOUSE ALONE HAS MORE THAN 200 02:21:52.303 --> 02:21:54.339 DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS TOTALING 02:21:54.405 --> 02:21:56.741 $88.1 MILLION. 02:21:57.509 --> 02:22:01.446 A $15 REPLACEMENT HOSE COULD HAVE AVERTED 02:22:01.512 --> 02:22:04.315 THE PREVIOUS 2024 COMPTON FLOOD THAT 02:22:04.382 --> 02:22:06.818 SHUT DOWN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND COURTROOMS 02:22:06.885 --> 02:22:07.886 FOR MONTHS. 02:22:08.519 --> 02:22:10.255 DOWNTOWN, THE STANLEY MOSK COURTHOUSE, WHICH 02:22:10.321 --> 02:22:11.923 YOU SPOKE ABOUT IN THE LAST PANEL, WHICH IS 02:22:11.990 --> 02:22:14.359 THE LARGEST COURTHOUSE IN THE NATION WITH 100 02:22:14.425 --> 02:22:16.761 COURTROOMS, HEARING CIVIL FAMILY LAW, 02:22:16.828 --> 02:22:18.696 RESTRAINING ORDER, EVICTION AND PROBATE 02:22:18.763 --> 02:22:20.865 MATTERS, TELLS THE SAME STORY. 02:22:21.299 --> 02:22:23.968 ITS ESCALATORS ARE SO OLD, THEY'RE ORIGINAL 02:22:24.035 --> 02:22:25.770 TO THE BUILDING THAT THE COMPANIES THAT 02:22:25.837 --> 02:22:28.306 MAKE THEIR PARTS NO LONGER EXIST. 02:22:28.706 --> 02:22:30.608 SOME OF THE REPLACEMENT PARTS MUST BE MADE ON 02:22:30.675 --> 02:22:31.876 A 3D PRINTER. 02:22:32.477 --> 02:22:35.480 ON ANY GIVEN DAY, 2 TO 3 ESCALATORS AT LEAST, 02:22:35.546 --> 02:22:36.681 ARE OUT OF SERVICE. 02:22:37.315 --> 02:22:40.418 IN 2021, A FAILED IRRIGATION PIPE FLOODED 02:22:40.485 --> 02:22:43.087 THAT BUILDING AND TOOK A BANK OF ELEVATORS OUT 02:22:43.154 --> 02:22:44.188 FOR SEVEN MONTHS. 02:22:44.422 --> 02:22:45.857 I'LL NOTE THOSE HAD OPENED JUST 02:22:45.924 --> 02:22:47.959 THE PREVIOUS WEEK THEY HAD BEEN REPLACED. 02:22:48.159 --> 02:22:50.295 IT WASN'T A GREAT TIMING FOR THE FOR THE FLOOD. 02:22:50.828 --> 02:22:53.298 AN ELDERLY WOMAN WHO USED A WALKER NEEDED 02:22:53.364 --> 02:22:56.267 TO REACH HER HEARING ON THE EIGHTH FLOOR WITH NO 02:22:56.334 --> 02:22:58.603 WORKING ELEVATOR, SHE RODE THE ESCALATOR UP. 02:22:59.037 --> 02:23:01.773 WHEN HER HEARING ENDED, THE DOWN ESCALATOR WAS 02:23:01.839 --> 02:23:04.309 BROKEN AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO BRING 02:23:04.375 --> 02:23:05.376 HER DOWN. 02:23:05.743 --> 02:23:07.512 WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF HER CASE, THINK 02:23:07.578 --> 02:23:09.480 ABOUT WHAT THAT DAY TOLD HER ABOUT WHETHER 02:23:09.547 --> 02:23:11.783 HER JUSTICE SYSTEM WAS BUILT FOR HER. 02:23:13.117 --> 02:23:15.720 LAST NOVEMBER, A DRAIN FAILURE IN MOSQUES, 02:23:15.787 --> 02:23:17.522 CHILLED CHILLED WATER SYSTEM FLOODED 02:23:17.588 --> 02:23:19.991 AN ELECTRICAL ROOM AND CAUSED A BUILDING 02:23:20.658 --> 02:23:22.794 BUILDING WIDE OUTAGE AND POWER SURGE. 02:23:23.227 --> 02:23:25.029 THAT SURGE DESTROYED RECENTLY PURCHASED 02:23:25.096 --> 02:23:26.531 COURTROOM AUDIO EQUIPMENT, SOME OF 02:23:26.597 --> 02:23:28.766 WHICH YOU SEE IN THIS ONE TODAY THAT SUPPORTS 02:23:28.833 --> 02:23:31.202 REMOTE HEARINGS FOR SEVERAL DAYS. 02:23:31.269 --> 02:23:33.771 LITIGANTS WHO RELY ON REMOTE APPEARANCES 02:23:33.838 --> 02:23:35.506 TO REMOVE BARRIERS TO PARTICIPATION, 02:23:35.573 --> 02:23:37.208 AND PERHAPS BECAUSE THEY ARE FEARFUL TO 02:23:37.275 --> 02:23:39.377 COME TO COURTHOUSES, COULD NOT JOIN THEIR 02:23:39.444 --> 02:23:41.713 HEARINGS, AND THE COURT HAD TO REPLACE ALL OF 02:23:41.779 --> 02:23:42.780 THAT EQUIPMENT. 02:23:43.314 --> 02:23:45.316 THESE FAILURES HAVE A PRICE, AND RIGHT 02:23:45.383 --> 02:23:47.085 NOW, TRIAL COURTS ARE PAYING IT OUT 02:23:47.151 --> 02:23:50.555 OF THEIR OPERATING BUDGETS MANY TIMES LOS 02:23:50.621 --> 02:23:52.890 ANGELES ACCOUNTS FOR 1.4 BILLION OF THAT 02:23:52.957 --> 02:23:55.159 $6.1 BILLION THAT MR. 02:23:55.226 --> 02:23:56.627 SODERBERGH JUST MENTIONED AND DEFERRED 02:23:56.694 --> 02:23:57.795 MAINTENANCE BACKLOG. 02:23:58.296 --> 02:23:59.998 EVEN WITH THIS YEAR'S INCREASE IN DEFERRED 02:24:00.064 --> 02:24:01.699 MAINTENANCE FUNDING, WHICH WE'RE SO GRATEFUL 02:24:01.766 --> 02:24:04.569 FOR, 150 MILLION ADDRESSES A SMALL 02:24:04.635 --> 02:24:05.837 FRACTION OF THAT NEED. 02:24:06.270 --> 02:24:08.639 SO WHEN A SYSTEM FAILS, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO 02:24:08.706 --> 02:24:09.774 FIX IT OURSELVES. 02:24:10.508 --> 02:24:13.378 LAST FISCAL YEAR, OUR COURT HERE IN LA 02:24:13.444 --> 02:24:16.514 SPENT 23.9 MILLION OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET 02:24:16.581 --> 02:24:19.250 MONEY MEANT FOR STAFF AND SERVICES FOR 02:24:19.317 --> 02:24:21.285 LITIGANTS ON REPAIRS THAT ARE TECHNICALLY 02:24:21.352 --> 02:24:22.720 THE STATE'S RESPONSIBILITY. 02:24:23.221 --> 02:24:26.524 WE DID THAT WHILE FUNDED $233 MILLION BELOW OUR 02:24:26.591 --> 02:24:27.925 CALCULATED FUNDING NEED. 02:24:28.493 --> 02:24:30.561 THAT 23.9 MILLION IS THE EQUIVALENT 02:24:30.628 --> 02:24:33.097 OF OVER 150 STAFF THAT WE COULD NOT. 02:24:33.164 --> 02:24:34.832 WE COULD HAVE HIRED TO HELP LITIGANTS 02:24:34.899 --> 02:24:37.201 AND OUR SELF-HELP SERVICES CASE MANAGERS 02:24:37.268 --> 02:24:38.803 TO HELP LITIGANTS MOVE THEIR CASES THROUGH 02:24:38.870 --> 02:24:41.272 THE SYSTEM, AND STAFF TO ASSIST LITIGANTS IN 02:24:41.339 --> 02:24:42.740 OUR RESTRAINING ORDER CENTERS. 02:24:43.107 --> 02:24:45.476 EVERY DOLLAR DIVERTED TO REPAIRS IS A DOLLAR 02:24:45.543 --> 02:24:47.779 NOT SPENT SERVING YOUR CONSTITUENTS. 02:24:48.546 --> 02:24:50.915 AND THIS IS NOT JUST A LOS ANGELES PROBLEM. 02:24:51.315 --> 02:24:52.817 MANY OF THE STATE'S COURTHOUSES ARE MORE 02:24:52.884 --> 02:24:54.552 THAN 50 YEARS OLD, AS YOU'VE HEARD. 02:24:54.852 --> 02:24:56.988 COURT EXECUTIVES FROM NEARLY EVERY COUNTY 02:24:57.188 --> 02:24:59.123 COULD SIT AT THIS TABLE TODAY AND TELL A VERSION 02:24:59.190 --> 02:25:00.124 OF THE SAME STORY. 02:25:00.191 --> 02:25:02.760 I'M UP HERE SAYING, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES, 02:25:02.827 --> 02:25:04.529 SINCE I KNEW WHO WAS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY. 02:25:04.896 --> 02:25:07.799 IN SAN BERNARDINO, SEISMIC BASE ISOLATORS 02:25:07.865 --> 02:25:09.867 HAVE DETERIORATED IN ONE OF THEIR COURTHOUSES 02:25:09.934 --> 02:25:12.336 AND NEED TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED TO SAFEGUARD 02:25:12.403 --> 02:25:14.005 THE OCCUPANTS OF THAT COURTHOUSE. 02:25:14.305 --> 02:25:17.442 AND PARKING LOTS NEED TO BE NEED TO BE RESURFACED 02:25:17.508 --> 02:25:20.044 TO ELIMINATE THE SAFETY HAZARDS FOR PEDESTRIANS 02:25:20.111 --> 02:25:21.112 AND VEHICLES. 02:25:21.446 --> 02:25:22.680 IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY, THEY 02:25:22.747 --> 02:25:24.715 RECENTLY EXPERIENCED A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE 02:25:24.782 --> 02:25:27.218 OF THE FIRE ALARM PANEL, REPLACEMENT OF WHICH 02:25:27.285 --> 02:25:29.087 HAD BEEN REQUESTED AND WAS ESTIMATED TO 02:25:29.153 --> 02:25:32.457 COST $67,493. 02:25:32.790 --> 02:25:34.992 INSTEAD, WHEN IT FAILED, THE BUILDING IS NOW 02:25:35.059 --> 02:25:39.163 ON A 24/7 FIRE WATCH AT A COST OF $25,000 02:25:39.230 --> 02:25:42.033 PER MONTH FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, EXCHANGING 02:25:42.100 --> 02:25:47.271 A $68,000 PROJECT FOR 600,000 OUR REQUEST IS 02:25:47.338 --> 02:25:50.141 SIMPLE MAKE THIS YEAR'S INVESTMENT THE FLOOR, 02:25:50.341 --> 02:25:51.342 NOT THE CEILING. 02:25:51.776 --> 02:25:53.311 WE URGE THIS. THIS COMMITTEE 02:25:53.377 --> 02:25:54.679 AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE BUDGET COMMITTEE 02:25:54.745 --> 02:25:56.747 TO SUPPORT SUSTAINED, ONGOING DEFERRED 02:25:56.814 --> 02:25:58.983 MAINTENANCE FUNDING FOR PLUMBING, HEATING 02:25:59.050 --> 02:26:00.751 AND COOLING ELEVATORS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL 02:26:00.818 --> 02:26:01.853 BUILDING SYSTEMS. 02:26:02.153 --> 02:26:03.921 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL'S PENDING BUDGET CHANGE 02:26:03.988 --> 02:26:07.792 PROPOSAL OF $163.2 MILLION IS A GOOD START. 02:26:08.292 --> 02:26:10.194 FIXING PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY FAIL IS 02:26:10.261 --> 02:26:12.363 THE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CHOICE FOR THE STATE, 02:26:12.563 --> 02:26:14.866 FOR THE COURTS AND FOR THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. 02:26:15.099 --> 02:26:16.167 THANK YOU, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR 02:26:16.234 --> 02:26:17.635 QUESTIONS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. 02:26:18.536 --> 02:26:19.504 THANK YOU. 02:26:20.171 --> 02:26:22.073 ARE YOU GOING TO DEFER TO JUSTICE HILL? 02:26:22.140 --> 02:26:24.142 I AM, THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ARE YOU 02:26:24.208 --> 02:26:25.276 SURE? SURE. OKAY. 02:26:25.510 --> 02:26:28.045 OKAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAVID. 02:26:28.913 --> 02:26:29.981 ERICA. SPERBECK. 02:26:30.448 --> 02:26:32.617 YEAH. FOR THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. 02:26:32.817 --> 02:26:34.619 SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR YOUR 02:26:34.685 --> 02:26:37.288 LEADERSHIP AND ADVOCACY IN THIS AREA AS WELL. 02:26:37.355 --> 02:26:39.524 THE 151 MILLION INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT 02:26:39.590 --> 02:26:40.591 YEAR BUDGET. 02:26:40.858 --> 02:26:42.960 I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT SOME OF 02:26:43.027 --> 02:26:44.462 THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT. 02:26:44.795 --> 02:26:46.597 BUT MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE MENTIONED. 02:26:46.664 --> 02:26:48.432 SO I'LL TRY TO TO TRY TO SUPPLEMENT 02:26:48.499 --> 02:26:49.433 MY TALKING POINTS. 02:26:49.500 --> 02:26:52.003 BUT OUR APPROACH TO MAINTAINING THE THE 02:26:52.069 --> 02:26:55.706 430 COURT FACILITIES INCLUDES BASICALLY 02:26:55.773 --> 02:26:56.707 THREE COMPONENTS. 02:26:56.774 --> 02:26:58.843 IT'S IT'S MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. 02:26:59.177 --> 02:27:01.345 UM, AND THAT'S PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE 02:27:01.412 --> 02:27:02.914 TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF EQUIPMENT. 02:27:02.980 --> 02:27:04.582 IT'S ALSO DEMAND MAINTENANCE WHEN 02:27:04.649 --> 02:27:06.050 EQUIPMENT BREAKS DOWN. 02:27:06.417 --> 02:27:10.221 UM, THE NUMBERS CITED HERE, THE 108, $198 02:27:10.288 --> 02:27:12.790 MILLION A YEAR, WE ESTIMATE AN EXISTING 02:27:12.857 --> 02:27:16.961 FUNDING GAP IN THAT AREA OF JUST OVER 18 MILLION. 02:27:17.028 --> 02:27:19.230 AND IT'S NOT THAT BUCKET IS NOT JUST MAINTENANCE. 02:27:19.297 --> 02:27:20.698 IT INCLUDES RENT AND INSURANCE 02:27:20.765 --> 02:27:22.266 AND UTILITIES AS WELL. 02:27:23.501 --> 02:27:24.835 THE SECOND BUCKET, THE FACILITY 02:27:24.902 --> 02:27:26.137 MODIFICATIONS. 02:27:26.404 --> 02:27:28.072 SO FACILITY MODIFICATIONS ARE 02:27:28.139 --> 02:27:30.741 GOVERNED AGAIN BY JUDICIAL COUNCIL'S 02:27:30.808 --> 02:27:31.742 ROBUST GOVERNANCE. 02:27:31.809 --> 02:27:33.945 THERE'S A TRIAL COURT FACILITY MODIFICATIONS 02:27:34.011 --> 02:27:34.946 ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 02:27:35.012 --> 02:27:36.480 THERE'S ALSO A TRIAL COURT FACILITY 02:27:36.547 --> 02:27:39.917 MODIFICATIONS POLICY WHICH SETS OUT 02:27:39.984 --> 02:27:43.788 THE CATEGORIES OF UM OF NEED AND, AND IT 02:27:43.854 --> 02:27:46.557 RANGES FROM IMMEDIATE OR POTENTIALLY CRITICAL 02:27:46.624 --> 02:27:49.293 NEEDS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS 02:27:49.360 --> 02:27:51.062 MANAGED BUT NOT YET ABATED. 02:27:51.562 --> 02:27:53.864 UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE CURRENT FUNDING 02:27:53.931 --> 02:27:55.766 IS $80 MILLION ANNUALLY. 02:27:56.100 --> 02:27:59.370 THAT ISN'T SUFFICIENT TO COVER EVEN THE ALL 02:27:59.437 --> 02:28:01.372 OF THE PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY TWO 02:28:01.439 --> 02:28:03.774 REQUESTS, NOT TO MENTION PRIORITIES THREE, FOUR, 02:28:03.841 --> 02:28:04.842 FIVE AND SIX. 02:28:05.176 --> 02:28:07.411 UM, WE ESTIMATE A CURRENT FUNDING GAP 02:28:07.478 --> 02:28:10.348 OF ABOUT 45 MILLION FOR JUST THE PRIORITY 02:28:10.414 --> 02:28:12.116 ONE AND TWO REQUESTS. 02:28:12.183 --> 02:28:15.186 UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR ALL SIX 02:28:15.253 --> 02:28:18.256 CATEGORIES BECAUSE AS COURTS SUBMIT REQUESTS, 02:28:18.322 --> 02:28:20.458 WE DON'T NECESSARILY ESTIMATE OR COST THEM 02:28:20.524 --> 02:28:21.492 OUT, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE NOT GOING 02:28:21.559 --> 02:28:22.493 TO BE FUNDED. 02:28:22.560 --> 02:28:24.495 AND IT'S A, IT'S A RESOURCE ISSUE IN 02:28:24.562 --> 02:28:25.563 ORDER TO DO THAT. 02:28:27.098 --> 02:28:28.332 AND THEN THE THIRD BUCKET, OF COURSE, 02:28:28.399 --> 02:28:29.700 AND THESE ALL INTERRELATE TO 02:28:29.767 --> 02:28:31.168 THE EXTENT WE'RE UNDERFUNDED IN 02:28:31.235 --> 02:28:32.703 MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, IT 02:28:32.770 --> 02:28:35.172 MAY FALL TO FACILITY MODIFICATIONS. 02:28:35.239 --> 02:28:37.108 AND THEN CLEARLY, TO THE EXTENT FACILITY 02:28:37.174 --> 02:28:39.143 MODIFICATIONS IS UNDERFUNDED, THAT FALLS 02:28:39.210 --> 02:28:40.144 TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 02:28:40.211 --> 02:28:41.779 AND YOU'VE HEARD YOU'VE HEARD A LOT 02:28:41.846 --> 02:28:43.014 ABOUT THAT TODAY. 02:28:43.581 --> 02:28:45.716 THERE IS NO ONGOING ANNUAL FUNDING SUCH 02:28:45.783 --> 02:28:50.621 THAT $150 MILLION OR $151 MILLION, UM, IS 02:28:50.688 --> 02:28:52.256 IS MUCH APPRECIATED. 02:28:52.757 --> 02:28:54.091 IT IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET. 02:28:54.158 --> 02:28:55.960 I THINK, AS, AS DAVID MENTIONED. 02:28:56.193 --> 02:28:58.663 IN FACT, UH, MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAD ASKED US 02:28:58.729 --> 02:29:01.699 TO, TO DO SOME ESTIMATES AND WE ESTIMATE THAT WE 02:29:01.766 --> 02:29:05.469 WOULD NEED $400 MILLION A YEAR FOR 10 TO 12 02:29:05.536 --> 02:29:08.172 YEARS IN ORDER TO, TO CLEAR THAT DEFERRED 02:29:08.239 --> 02:29:09.473 MAINTENANCE BACKLOG. 02:29:10.374 --> 02:29:12.510 UM, IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING, AND MR. 02:29:12.576 --> 02:29:14.512 SLAYTON MENTIONED THIS, BUT COURTS 02:29:14.578 --> 02:29:16.981 CAN AND DO USE THEIR OPERATING FUNDS FOR 02:29:17.048 --> 02:29:19.550 NEEDED FACILITY MODIFICATIONS BEYOND 02:29:19.617 --> 02:29:21.919 BEYOND THE STATE'S ABILITY TO FUND THEM. 02:29:22.420 --> 02:29:24.355 IN TERMS OF THE 151 MILLION THAT WAS 02:29:24.422 --> 02:29:26.657 INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED 02:29:26.724 --> 02:29:29.593 143.5 MILLION TO THE TRIAL COURTS 02:29:29.660 --> 02:29:32.663 AND 7.5 MILLION TO THE APPELLATE COURTS FOR 02:29:32.730 --> 02:29:36.500 105 PROJECTS COVERING 28 COUNTIES, WITH 02:29:36.567 --> 02:29:38.502 THE COUNTY RECEIVING THE HIGHEST ALLOCATION 02:29:38.569 --> 02:29:43.207 BEING LOS ANGELES AT 51.9 MILLION, 36% OF 02:29:43.274 --> 02:29:45.009 THE TOTAL FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED. 02:29:45.242 --> 02:29:47.144 AND THEN THE LOWEST ALLOCATION BEING TO SAN 02:29:47.211 --> 02:29:49.380 LUIS OBISPO AT $5,000. 02:29:49.580 --> 02:29:51.782 BUT I'LL MENTION AGAIN, IT COVERED 28 02:29:51.849 --> 02:29:54.518 COUNTIES, WHICH MEAN MEANS 30 COUNTIES 02:29:54.585 --> 02:29:56.620 DIDN'T DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OF THAT FUNDING. 02:29:57.021 --> 02:30:00.024 UM, WE HAVE RETAINED ONE LEAD CONSULTANT, 02:30:00.091 --> 02:30:01.792 A SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AND FOUR 02:30:01.859 --> 02:30:04.128 CONSULTANT PROJECT MANAGERS TO, TO DELIVER 02:30:04.195 --> 02:30:06.097 ON THIS COMMITMENT IN THE BUDGET AS WELL. 02:30:06.163 --> 02:30:07.865 AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. 02:30:08.566 --> 02:30:09.500 THANK YOU. 02:30:09.567 --> 02:30:12.470 JUSTICE HILL PROBABLY THINKING ME AGAIN. 02:30:12.536 --> 02:30:15.806 UH, I, I WILL BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE IT'S 02:30:15.873 --> 02:30:18.209 BEEN VERY ELOQUENTLY STATED WHAT WE'RE 02:30:18.275 --> 02:30:19.210 DEALING WITH HERE. 02:30:19.276 --> 02:30:22.780 WE HAVE 22,000 DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS, 02:30:22.847 --> 02:30:23.814 AS HAS BEEN NOTED. 02:30:23.881 --> 02:30:28.819 22,000,000FT² THAT WE TRY TO KEEP IN 02:30:28.886 --> 02:30:34.024 SOME STATE OF REPAIR, 430 BUILDINGS, 2100 02:30:34.091 --> 02:30:35.159 COURTROOMS. 02:30:35.226 --> 02:30:38.362 AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR ABOUT 20 PLUS YEARS. 02:30:38.429 --> 02:30:41.265 AND THESE BUILDINGS OVER TIME ARE GETTING 02:30:41.332 --> 02:30:43.601 OLDER AND OLDER AND OLDER, AND IT HAS 02:30:43.667 --> 02:30:46.203 BEEN A TALL ORDER TO GET THROUGH WHAT WE 02:30:46.270 --> 02:30:47.204 HAVE TO GET THROUGH. 02:30:47.271 --> 02:30:49.340 WE'VE HAD A VERY DEDICATED TRIAL COURT 02:30:49.407 --> 02:30:51.308 FACILITIES MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT HAS 02:30:51.375 --> 02:30:52.343 BEEN REFERENCED. 02:30:52.543 --> 02:30:55.646 UM, IT'S BEEN CHAIRED AND CO-CHAIRED BY TWO 02:30:55.713 --> 02:30:56.981 VERY DEDICATED JUDGES. 02:30:57.047 --> 02:30:59.784 JUDGE HIGHBERGER FROM LOS ANGELES IS ONE 02:30:59.850 --> 02:31:02.486 AND JUDGE BIRD FROM GLEN IS ANOTHER. 02:31:02.553 --> 02:31:04.021 AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE TOUGH 02:31:04.088 --> 02:31:07.558 DECISIONS, UM, DAY IN AND DAY OUT. REALLY. 02:31:07.625 --> 02:31:10.895 THEY GET EMERGENCY CALLS FROM COURTS ACROSS 02:31:10.961 --> 02:31:13.130 THE STATE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHOSE ROOF DO WE 02:31:13.197 --> 02:31:14.131 REPAIR? 02:31:14.198 --> 02:31:15.599 WHOSE PIPES DO WE REPAIR? 02:31:15.666 --> 02:31:18.102 WHAT PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE CAN WE 02:31:18.169 --> 02:31:21.605 MAKE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DISASTROUS 02:31:22.373 --> 02:31:24.508 EFFECTS THAT LOS ANGELES HAS BEEN HIT 02:31:24.575 --> 02:31:25.776 WITH AND OTHER COURTS? 02:31:25.843 --> 02:31:30.548 AND SO THIS KIND OF A WHACK A MOLE APPROACH 02:31:30.614 --> 02:31:34.819 THAT THEY HAVE HAD TO UTILIZE FOR YEARS 02:31:34.885 --> 02:31:38.122 HAS BEEN AMELIORATED, CERTAINLY SOMEWHAT BY 02:31:38.189 --> 02:31:39.123 YOUR EFFORTS. 02:31:39.190 --> 02:31:42.626 AND WE THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THAT, 02:31:42.693 --> 02:31:45.996 BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW RELIEVED THEY 02:31:46.063 --> 02:31:50.067 WERE WHEN THEY GOT THAT NEWS, BECAUSE THEY WERE 02:31:50.134 --> 02:31:52.636 CONSTANTLY IN A STATE OF TELLING COURTS, 02:31:52.870 --> 02:31:55.506 I'M SORRY, THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AHEAD OF 02:31:55.573 --> 02:31:58.108 YOU, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN WE CAN 02:31:58.175 --> 02:31:59.510 PERFORM THAT REPAIR. 02:31:59.810 --> 02:32:03.614 AND SO IT, IT OBVIOUSLY IS NOT ALL THAT WE NEED. 02:32:03.681 --> 02:32:06.116 AND, AND ERIC HAS INDICATED WHAT THAT 02:32:06.183 --> 02:32:09.119 WOULD BE, BUT IT MADE A BIG STEP IN 02:32:09.186 --> 02:32:10.120 THAT DIRECTION. 02:32:10.187 --> 02:32:13.157 AND THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE AND ON 02:32:13.224 --> 02:32:15.459 BEHALF OF THE BRANCH, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING 02:32:15.526 --> 02:32:19.129 LIKE A MONDAY MORNING FLOOD TO DEAL WITH OR 02:32:19.196 --> 02:32:22.233 A MONDAY MORNING, NO AIR CONDITIONING IN 02:32:22.466 --> 02:32:25.302 THE CENTRAL VALLEY OR THE INLAND EMPIRE OR ANY 02:32:25.369 --> 02:32:28.038 OF THE OTHER INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN ALL OVER 02:32:28.105 --> 02:32:29.907 THE STATE ALL THE TIME. 02:32:30.107 --> 02:32:33.811 SO I WILL REST MY CASE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR 02:32:33.878 --> 02:32:36.413 EFFORTS AND STANDING READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 02:32:36.614 --> 02:32:37.615 THANK YOU. 02:32:38.249 --> 02:32:40.618 MR. AHMED. ANY FURTHER. COMMENTS? 02:32:40.684 --> 02:32:43.020 YEAH, MAYBE I'LL ADD TO WHAT MR. 02:32:43.087 --> 02:32:44.455 PURBRICK TALKED ABOUT. 02:32:44.522 --> 02:32:47.424 UM, SO THE TWO FUNDING CATEGORIES 02:32:47.491 --> 02:32:49.059 IN THE FACILITY, MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE 02:32:49.126 --> 02:32:52.129 ABLE TO FUND, LIKE ERICA SAID, THE EMERGENCIES, 02:32:52.196 --> 02:32:54.131 LIKE THE EMERGENCIES THAT HAPPEN HERE IN 02:32:54.198 --> 02:32:56.600 COMPTON, WHEN WE HAD THE FLOODS, WE WERE ABLE 02:32:56.667 --> 02:32:57.601 TO FIX THAT. 02:32:57.668 --> 02:33:01.205 THE SECOND CATEGORY THAT WE THAT IS THAT 02:33:01.272 --> 02:33:03.541 WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET ON A YEARLY BASIS IS 02:33:03.607 --> 02:33:06.210 THE NEED, MEANING THAT WE EXPECT A PIECE OF 02:33:06.277 --> 02:33:10.281 EQUIPMENT TO FAIL, UH, BECAUSE IT'S KIND 02:33:10.347 --> 02:33:11.348 OF DYING. 02:33:11.682 --> 02:33:15.085 AND, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO 02:33:15.152 --> 02:33:17.221 KIND OF FUND SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS, 02:33:17.288 --> 02:33:19.056 BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END 02:33:19.123 --> 02:33:21.025 OF THE YEAR AND DEFER THOSE PROJECTS UNTIL 02:33:21.091 --> 02:33:24.161 THE NEXT YEAR WHEN WE GET A NEW SET OF $80 02:33:24.228 --> 02:33:25.496 MILLION AND KIND OF FUND THOSE. 02:33:25.563 --> 02:33:29.400 SO WE'RE ALWAYS CATCHING UP ON THE ON 02:33:29.466 --> 02:33:31.302 THE NEEDS CATEGORIES OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT 02:33:31.368 --> 02:33:34.438 WE EXPECT TO FAIL, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T 02:33:34.505 --> 02:33:35.472 HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. 02:33:35.539 --> 02:33:38.142 UH, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KIND OF ADD TO THAT. 02:33:39.944 --> 02:33:41.812 WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT FUNDING SOURCE? 02:33:41.879 --> 02:33:42.846 THE SECOND ONE. 02:33:42.913 --> 02:33:45.049 THE MODIFICATIONS. 02:33:45.115 --> 02:33:47.217 UM, THE FACILITY MODIFICATIONS IS, 02:33:47.284 --> 02:33:48.852 IS MADE OUT OF SIX CATEGORIES 02:33:48.919 --> 02:33:50.120 PER OUR POLICY. 02:33:50.321 --> 02:33:51.589 SO WE DO EMERGENCIES. 02:33:51.655 --> 02:33:52.790 WHEN EMERGENCIES HAPPEN. 02:33:52.856 --> 02:33:54.792 WE, WE, WE, WE FIX THOSE. 02:33:54.858 --> 02:33:57.394 THE SECOND ONE IS WE CATEGORIZE AS 02:33:57.461 --> 02:33:58.495 A PRIORITY TWO. 02:33:59.196 --> 02:34:02.366 IT'S NEEDED. THAT MEANS THAT IT IS A BUILDING 02:34:02.433 --> 02:34:05.336 SYSTEM OR A BUILDING EQUIPMENT THAT IS, YOU 02:34:05.402 --> 02:34:08.272 KNOW, HAS PAST ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY. 02:34:08.505 --> 02:34:10.474 WE'VE REPAIRED IT, BUT IT FAILS AND WE 02:34:10.541 --> 02:34:11.475 REPAIR IT AND IT FAILS. 02:34:11.542 --> 02:34:13.577 AND WE'RE EXPECTING IT TO KIND OF FAIL 02:34:13.644 --> 02:34:14.645 AT ANY TIME. 02:34:14.845 --> 02:34:17.848 UM, AND WE'RE ONLY TO FUND, WE'RE ABLE TO FUND 02:34:17.915 --> 02:34:20.884 PART OF THOSE CATEGORIES OR SOME PROJECTS IN 02:34:20.951 --> 02:34:23.320 THOSE CATEGORIES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ALL 02:34:23.387 --> 02:34:24.388 OF THEM. 02:34:24.588 --> 02:34:25.723 OKAY. THANK YOU. 02:34:26.056 --> 02:34:28.158 UM, SENATOR REYES, YOU WANT TO KICK US OFF? 02:34:28.359 --> 02:34:31.762 THANK YOU. IN IN THE REPORT, IT SAYS 02:34:31.829 --> 02:34:33.163 THAT THE NEED IS ABOUT. 02:34:33.230 --> 02:34:36.166 IT'S JUST OVER $6 BILLION TO TAKE CARE 02:34:36.233 --> 02:34:37.234 OF ALL OF THESE. 02:34:37.301 --> 02:34:39.136 NOW YOU HAVE THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES THAT 02:34:39.203 --> 02:34:42.272 YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, 02:34:42.640 --> 02:34:43.774 THE CRITICAL NEED. 02:34:44.508 --> 02:34:46.043 WHAT WOULD IT COST TO TAKE CARE OF 02:34:46.110 --> 02:34:47.244 THE CRITICAL NEED? 02:34:47.678 --> 02:34:51.415 OR ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THIS 151? 02:34:51.915 --> 02:34:54.418 SO LET ME JUST MAYBE CLARIFY. 02:34:54.485 --> 02:34:55.853 SO THE, THE. 02:34:56.220 --> 02:34:58.188 SECOND BUCKET, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE TALKED 02:34:58.255 --> 02:35:00.190 ABOUT FACILITY MODIFICATION. 02:35:00.557 --> 02:35:03.727 UM, THAT CURRENT GAP FOR PRIORITY 02:35:03.794 --> 02:35:05.829 ONE AND PRIORITY TWO IS 45 MILLION. 02:35:05.896 --> 02:35:08.232 SO THAT WE GET $80 MILLION A YEAR FOR 02:35:08.298 --> 02:35:10.000 FACILITY MODIFICATIONS. 02:35:10.668 --> 02:35:13.070 THE GAP ONLY, THE ONLY THING WE'VE COSTED OUT 02:35:13.137 --> 02:35:15.205 AT THIS POINT IS ALL THE PRIORITY ONE, ALL 02:35:15.272 --> 02:35:16.273 THE PRIORITY TWO. 02:35:16.573 --> 02:35:18.375 THERE ARE PRIORITY THREE WHICH ARE 02:35:18.442 --> 02:35:19.376 ACTUALLY NEEDED. 02:35:19.443 --> 02:35:21.211 I THINK THESE ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR AGENDA. 02:35:21.278 --> 02:35:23.814 SO SORRY TO TO RATTLE THEM OFF. 02:35:23.881 --> 02:35:25.549 BUT AND THEN PRIORITY FOUR DOES 02:35:25.616 --> 02:35:27.151 NOT MEET CURRENT CODES OR STANDARDS. 02:35:27.217 --> 02:35:29.153 PRIORITY FIVE IS BEYOND RATED LIFE, 02:35:29.219 --> 02:35:31.255 BUT SERVICEABLE PRIORITY SIX IS HAZARDOUS 02:35:31.321 --> 02:35:33.857 MATERIALS MANAGEMENT NOT YET RATED. 02:35:33.924 --> 02:35:36.093 WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR 02:35:36.160 --> 02:35:38.495 THOSE PRAIRIE THREE THROUGH PRAIRIE SIX. 02:35:38.562 --> 02:35:41.231 THE $45 MILLION GAP IS JUST FOR PRIORITY 02:35:41.298 --> 02:35:42.466 ONE AND PRIORITY TWO. 02:35:42.733 --> 02:35:44.968 AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, 02:35:45.035 --> 02:35:46.170 WE DO HAVE A LIST. 02:35:46.236 --> 02:35:50.074 I MEAN, THE ENTIRE LIST THAT 22,000 PROJECTS 02:35:50.140 --> 02:35:53.143 TOTAL COST OF JUST OVER 6 BILLION, OF WHICH 02:35:53.477 --> 02:35:57.014 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL SHARE IS 4.45 BILLION. 02:35:57.381 --> 02:36:01.285 UM, THE THE REMAINING 1.6 1.7 BILLION IS 02:36:01.351 --> 02:36:02.753 ACTUALLY COUNTY SHARE. 02:36:03.153 --> 02:36:04.988 IT'S NOT IN A PRIORITIZED 02:36:05.055 --> 02:36:06.557 ORDER, SO TO SPEAK. 02:36:07.024 --> 02:36:09.293 WHEN WE DO GET DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FUNDING, 02:36:09.359 --> 02:36:11.228 WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE BUDGET, WHETHER WE 02:36:11.295 --> 02:36:15.766 REQUEST IT OR A GENEROUS LEGISLATOR AS AS SUCH, 02:36:15.833 --> 02:36:18.802 AS YOURSELF PUTS IT ADDS IT TO THE BUDGET WHEN IT 02:36:18.869 --> 02:36:20.237 GETS APPROPRIATED. 02:36:20.437 --> 02:36:23.373 WE THEN OUR FACILITIES TEAM TAKES THAT LIST 02:36:23.440 --> 02:36:24.508 AND GOES THROUGH. 02:36:24.575 --> 02:36:26.076 THERE'S A METHODOLOGY. 02:36:26.143 --> 02:36:31.181 MADAM CHAIR, TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE HIGHEST 02:36:31.248 --> 02:36:32.382 PRIORITY NEEDS. 02:36:32.449 --> 02:36:34.918 AND AND THEY'RE IN BUCKETS AS WELL. 02:36:34.985 --> 02:36:36.954 I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TOP OF THE LIST 02:36:37.020 --> 02:36:39.590 WOULD BE THE BUILDING, THE EXTERIOR SKIN, 02:36:39.656 --> 02:36:41.658 YOU KNOW, THE WALLS, THE ROOFS, THINGS LIKE 02:36:41.725 --> 02:36:42.659 THAT. 02:36:42.726 --> 02:36:44.394 AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST LITERALLY IS 02:36:44.461 --> 02:36:46.096 LIKE INTERIOR FINISHES. 02:36:46.363 --> 02:36:51.235 UM, SO, SO WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO PRIORITIZE 02:36:51.301 --> 02:36:54.505 AND ALLOCATE THAT FUNDING, WHICH GOES TO 02:36:54.571 --> 02:36:57.608 OUR JUDICIAL COUNCIL, UH, GOVERNANCE OR GOES 02:36:57.674 --> 02:36:59.309 THROUGH OUR JUDICIAL COUNCIL GOVERNANCE, 02:36:59.376 --> 02:37:01.979 THE TRIAL COURT FACILITY MODIFICATION ADVISORY 02:37:02.045 --> 02:37:04.548 COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A MOUTHFUL AND IN SHORT, 02:37:04.615 --> 02:37:05.983 IS CALLED TIC TAC. 02:37:06.049 --> 02:37:08.385 IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE NEW ACRONYMS. 02:37:08.652 --> 02:37:12.656 UM, THEY AND IT'S MADE UP OF JUDICIAL OFFICERS 02:37:12.723 --> 02:37:13.924 AND COURT EXECUTIVES. 02:37:13.991 --> 02:37:15.058 SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 02:37:15.125 --> 02:37:17.427 SO WE HAVE THE GOVERNANCE THAT, 02:37:17.494 --> 02:37:18.428 THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT. 02:37:18.495 --> 02:37:20.397 YOU HAVE THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL ITSELF LED BY 02:37:20.464 --> 02:37:23.100 THE CHIEF JUSTICE. WE HAVE SIX COMMITTEES. 02:37:23.167 --> 02:37:25.068 WE HAVE 25 ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 02:37:25.135 --> 02:37:27.237 AND THEN WE HAVE MYRIAD WORK GROUPS 02:37:27.304 --> 02:37:28.505 AND SUBCOMMITTEES, ETC. 02:37:28.572 --> 02:37:30.007 BUT AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THERE'S UP 02:37:30.073 --> 02:37:33.477 TO 525 JUDICIAL OFFICERS AND COURT 02:37:33.544 --> 02:37:35.979 EXECUTIVES THAT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ABOUT 02:37:36.046 --> 02:37:37.080 FUNDING ALLOCATIONS. 02:37:37.147 --> 02:37:40.951 SO THAT'S HOW WHEN YOU ADD $151 MILLION 02:37:41.018 --> 02:37:42.953 TO THE BUDGET, WE GO THROUGH AND DO 02:37:43.153 --> 02:37:45.189 AN ANALYSIS AND TEE UP A RECOMMENDATION 02:37:45.255 --> 02:37:47.858 TO THE DECISION MAKERS TO SAY APPROVED. 02:37:48.192 --> 02:37:49.126 IF THAT'S HELPFUL. 02:37:49.193 --> 02:37:51.228 I WILL TELL YOU, NORMALLY WE DON'T 02:37:51.295 --> 02:37:54.031 TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET PROCESS, BUT I WILL 02:37:54.097 --> 02:37:58.402 TELL YOU THAT, UM, SENATOR RICHARDSON DID 02:37:58.468 --> 02:38:00.304 NOT WANT JUST 150. 02:38:00.370 --> 02:38:02.706 HER NUMBER WAS A WHOLE LOT BIGGER. 02:38:03.006 --> 02:38:04.808 AND SHE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND FOUGHT. 02:38:04.875 --> 02:38:08.078 AND EVEN WITH THAT TO, I THINK IT WAS 02:38:08.145 --> 02:38:11.048 88% HIGHER THAN WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 02:38:11.114 --> 02:38:12.149 RECEIVED OTHERWISE. 02:38:12.683 --> 02:38:13.817 IT'S A BIG WIN. 02:38:14.151 --> 02:38:15.853 I KNOW SHE WASN'T SATISFIED. 02:38:16.086 --> 02:38:20.390 UM, AND AS SHE FIGHTS ON FOR THIS, SHE'LL HAVE 02:38:20.457 --> 02:38:22.526 LOTS OF ALLIES WITH THE REST OF US BECAUSE 02:38:22.893 --> 02:38:27.631 PART OF IT IS EDUCATING THE REST OF US ABOUT HOW 02:38:27.698 --> 02:38:30.467 SERIOUS AN ISSUE IS ON JUDICIAL. 02:38:31.268 --> 02:38:34.605 THE FACT THAT WE. WE HAD A SHORTAGE OF JUDGES IN 02:38:34.671 --> 02:38:35.606 CERTAIN COUNTIES. 02:38:35.672 --> 02:38:38.008 I WAS VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT, BUT THE DEFERRED 02:38:38.075 --> 02:38:39.009 MAINTENANCE. 02:38:39.076 --> 02:38:41.745 I THINK MANY OF US WERE EDUCATED BY BY CHAIR 02:38:41.812 --> 02:38:44.448 RICHARDSON ABOUT HOW GREAT THAT NEED WAS. 02:38:45.315 --> 02:38:47.484 SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT QUESTION 02:38:47.551 --> 02:38:48.986 THEN THAT I JUST ASKED. 02:38:49.186 --> 02:38:52.322 SO PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY TWO COULD 02:38:52.389 --> 02:38:55.826 BE MET WITH ANOTHER 45 MILLION. OKAY. 02:38:56.226 --> 02:38:58.195 UM, THAT'S I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT 02:38:58.262 --> 02:39:00.697 I WAS CLEAR ON THAT. 02:39:01.064 --> 02:39:04.801 UM, AND THE REQUEST IS, AND I APPRECIATED THAT 02:39:04.868 --> 02:39:08.405 THAT WAS INCLUDED, UM, THAT THE REQUEST IS 02:39:08.739 --> 02:39:11.341 FOR SUSTAINED ONGOING FUNDING FOR DEFERRED 02:39:11.408 --> 02:39:14.945 MAINTENANCE TO THE TUNE OF 400 MILLION PER YEAR. 02:39:15.445 --> 02:39:18.282 AND YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE AN AMOUNT 02:39:18.348 --> 02:39:22.519 THAT, UM, IF, IF IT WERE ONGOING, COULD PROVIDE 02:39:22.586 --> 02:39:25.088 FOR WHAT'S NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF TIER ONE, 02:39:25.155 --> 02:39:27.424 TIER TWO, AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TIERS. 02:39:27.624 --> 02:39:29.059 RIGHT, FOR 10 TO 12 YEARS. 02:39:29.126 --> 02:39:31.995 SO $400 MILLION A YEAR FOR 10 TO 12 YEARS TO 02:39:32.062 --> 02:39:33.797 CLEAR THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE BACKLOG. 02:39:34.131 --> 02:39:35.599 AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. 02:39:35.966 --> 02:39:37.334 MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE NO DOUBT. 02:39:37.401 --> 02:39:38.535 I MEAN, YOU'VE HEARD IT A LOT TODAY, 02:39:38.602 --> 02:39:40.437 BUT JUST WANT TO GO AGAIN ON RECORD. 02:39:40.504 --> 02:39:42.339 OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP 02:39:42.406 --> 02:39:43.440 AND ADVOCACY. 02:39:43.974 --> 02:39:46.510 UM, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FUNDING IN 02:39:46.576 --> 02:39:47.811 THE LAST FEW YEARS. 02:39:47.878 --> 02:39:49.746 I MEAN, SO WE'VE GOT 151 MILLION IN THE CURRENT 02:39:49.813 --> 02:39:50.747 YEAR BUDGET. 02:39:50.814 --> 02:39:53.583 PRIOR TO THAT, IT WAS 2021. 02:39:53.884 --> 02:39:58.155 WE GOT 138.5 MILLION IN 20 1617. 02:39:58.221 --> 02:40:02.826 WE GOT 45,000,000 IN 20 1819 WE GOT 50 MILLION. 02:40:02.893 --> 02:40:06.797 AND IN 2019, 2020 15 MILLION. 02:40:06.997 --> 02:40:11.768 SO 151 MILLION IS A LOT RELATIVE TO WHAT WE'VE 02:40:11.835 --> 02:40:13.704 BEEN FUNDED IN THAT AREA. REALLY APPRECIATE. 02:40:13.770 --> 02:40:15.038 YOUR. I TOLD HER IT WAS. A LOT, BUT. 02:40:15.105 --> 02:40:17.174 SHE SAID IT'S NOT ENOUGH. UM. 02:40:17.574 --> 02:40:21.345 AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION IS THE THE 02:40:21.411 --> 02:40:23.513 ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR 02:40:23.580 --> 02:40:26.450 THE ORANGE CENTRAL JUSTICE CENTER PROJECT. 02:40:26.516 --> 02:40:27.517 WHY SO MUCH MONEY? 02:40:28.452 --> 02:40:31.188 WHY WAS WHY WAS SO MUCH MONEY CHANNELED 02:40:31.254 --> 02:40:32.322 TO TO ORANGE? 02:40:32.856 --> 02:40:35.025 YEAH. THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH A, 02:40:35.826 --> 02:40:38.595 A SPECIAL BUDGET CHANGE CONCEPT. YES. 02:40:38.862 --> 02:40:41.932 BUDGET PROPOSAL IN ORDER TO INSTALL FIRE 02:40:41.999 --> 02:40:44.534 LIFE SAFETY SYSTEMS AT THE CENTRAL 02:40:44.601 --> 02:40:47.304 JUSTICE SYSTEM AS CENTRAL JUSTICE 02:40:47.371 --> 02:40:49.139 CENTER IN ORANGE. 02:40:49.473 --> 02:40:53.076 UH, THE BUILDING WAS COUNTY OWNED, UM, UNTIL 02:40:53.143 --> 02:40:55.045 IT GOT TRANSFERRED TO THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL 02:40:55.245 --> 02:40:56.413 PRIOR TO THE TRANSFER. 02:40:56.480 --> 02:40:59.516 THE COUNTY INSTALLED FIRE LIFE SAFETY 02:40:59.783 --> 02:41:02.019 AND FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN FLOOR 11 02:41:02.085 --> 02:41:03.186 THROUGH FOUR. 02:41:03.253 --> 02:41:06.490 BUT THEN WE TOOK OVER, AND WE NEEDED THE MONEY 02:41:06.556 --> 02:41:09.659 IN ORDER TO DO THE THE EQUIVALENT OF FIRE 02:41:09.726 --> 02:41:12.562 ALARM, FIRE SUPPRESSION AND AN EVAC SYSTEM IN 02:41:12.629 --> 02:41:13.563 THIS BUILDING. 02:41:13.630 --> 02:41:15.465 WHEN WE GOT INTO THE BUILDING, WHEN WE 02:41:15.532 --> 02:41:18.035 STARTED CONSTRUCTION, WE FOUND OUT THAT 02:41:18.301 --> 02:41:22.172 THE THE PLANS DO NOT REFLECT WHAT WAS 02:41:22.239 --> 02:41:23.173 ACTUALLY THE CASE. 02:41:23.240 --> 02:41:25.776 BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS SO OLD, IT WAS 02:41:25.842 --> 02:41:27.511 VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO INVESTIGATE WHAT'S 02:41:27.577 --> 02:41:28.512 ABOVE THE CEILING. 02:41:28.578 --> 02:41:30.814 SO WHEN WE OPENED THE CEILING AND WE WHEN, 02:41:30.881 --> 02:41:33.850 WHEN, WHEN WHEN WE MOVED PEOPLE OUT IN ORDER TO 02:41:33.917 --> 02:41:36.153 OCCUPY THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO WORK AND WE 02:41:36.219 --> 02:41:39.189 OPENED THE CEILING, WE FOUND THAT THE PLANS DID 02:41:39.256 --> 02:41:41.324 NOT REFLECT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED. 02:41:41.858 --> 02:41:45.028 SO WE HAD TO SUPPLEMENT AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL 02:41:45.095 --> 02:41:48.932 MONEY IN ORDER TO BUILD IT THE WAY IT WAS 02:41:48.999 --> 02:41:51.468 SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT IN THE 60S WHEN IT GOT 02:41:51.535 --> 02:41:52.536 CONSTRUCTED. 02:41:53.336 --> 02:41:55.572 AND WE PARTNERED WITH THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL 02:41:55.639 --> 02:41:57.374 TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS 02:41:57.441 --> 02:42:00.177 IN ORDER TO MEET THE CODES, IN ORDER TO 02:42:00.243 --> 02:42:01.178 KIND OF DO THAT. 02:42:01.244 --> 02:42:03.447 THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN 02:42:03.513 --> 02:42:07.184 ORDER TO, TO, TO PUT BACK WHAT WAS NOT OR 02:42:07.250 --> 02:42:09.152 PUT IN WHAT WAS NOT PUT IN WHEN THE WHEN 02:42:09.219 --> 02:42:10.954 THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED. 02:42:11.655 --> 02:42:15.025 MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, AS THE REQUEST FOR 02:42:15.092 --> 02:42:18.628 THAT MONEY CAME IN ON ALMOST $80 MILLION AS 02:42:18.695 --> 02:42:20.831 THE REQUEST CAME IN FOR THAT. 02:42:21.331 --> 02:42:23.166 HOW WAS THAT VETTED? 02:42:24.034 --> 02:42:26.236 UH, HOW IS THAT COMPARED TO OTHER 02:42:26.303 --> 02:42:27.604 REQUESTS FOR MONEY? 02:42:27.904 --> 02:42:30.907 UM, AND NOTHING AGAINST ORANGE. 02:42:30.974 --> 02:42:32.809 YOU KNOW, MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES ARE FROM 02:42:32.876 --> 02:42:34.444 ORANGE AND THEY WOULD BE FIGHTING FOR THEM. 02:42:34.711 --> 02:42:36.446 BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS 02:42:36.513 --> 02:42:37.514 IS DATA DRIVEN. 02:42:37.948 --> 02:42:40.317 UH, HOW, HOW WAS THAT PROJECT GIVEN 02:42:40.383 --> 02:42:43.520 A PRIORITY TO THE TUNE OF ALMOST $80 MILLION? 02:42:43.720 --> 02:42:45.489 IT WAS AN EXISTING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT 02:42:45.555 --> 02:42:46.556 THAT HAD STARTED. 02:42:46.623 --> 02:42:48.158 AND IF WE DID NOT GET THAT MONEY, WE 02:42:48.225 --> 02:42:50.694 WOULD HAVE STOPPED THE PROJECT WITHOUT 02:42:50.760 --> 02:42:51.695 IT BEING COMPLETED. 02:42:51.761 --> 02:42:52.929 IT WAS AN EXISTING CONSTRUCTION 02:42:52.996 --> 02:42:54.965 PROJECT THAT WE NEEDED TO CONTINUE 02:42:55.031 --> 02:42:57.367 IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE ORIGINAL SCOPE. 02:42:57.868 --> 02:43:00.504 UM, SO WE WERE KIND OF PUT IN A SITUATION 02:43:00.570 --> 02:43:03.073 THAT WHEN WE STARTED DOING THE CONSTRUCTION, 02:43:03.373 --> 02:43:04.741 THE PLAN DID NOT REFLECT WHAT THE COUNTY 02:43:04.808 --> 02:43:05.742 HAD BUILT. 02:43:05.809 --> 02:43:08.011 SO IT WAS, WAS CHANNELED THERE IN ORDER TO 02:43:08.078 --> 02:43:09.179 COMPLETE THE PROJECT. 02:43:09.246 --> 02:43:12.916 AND I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REPORT IS WHEN WE FIRST 02:43:12.983 --> 02:43:16.253 ASKED FOR THE MONEY, WE WERE ABOUT 25% COMPLETE 02:43:16.319 --> 02:43:17.854 OF THE FIRST MILESTONE. 02:43:18.188 --> 02:43:20.056 THAT FIRST MILESTONE IS SCHEDULED TO BE 02:43:20.123 --> 02:43:21.858 COMPLETED IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. WE'RE DONE. 02:43:21.925 --> 02:43:25.428 WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THE PUNCH LIST 02:43:25.495 --> 02:43:26.696 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 02:43:26.763 --> 02:43:28.398 AND WE'RE MOVING BACK. 02:43:28.865 --> 02:43:31.701 UH, THE COURTS, UM, IN MILESTONE ONE. 02:43:31.768 --> 02:43:34.337 AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING OUT THE COURTS 02:43:34.404 --> 02:43:36.940 AND THE STAFF THAT ARE IN PHASE TWO AND PHASE 02:43:37.007 --> 02:43:38.708 THREE. SO WE ARE. 02:43:40.310 --> 02:43:42.479 SO THIS, THIS BUILDING WAS PURCHASED FROM 02:43:42.546 --> 02:43:43.480 THE COUNTY. 02:43:43.547 --> 02:43:46.216 YES. IT WAS TRANSFERRED FROM THE COUNTY. YES. 02:43:47.317 --> 02:43:48.652 TRANSFERRED OR PURCHASED? 02:43:49.085 --> 02:43:50.086 TRANSFERRED. 02:43:50.687 --> 02:43:52.722 SO THERE WAS NO CHANGE OF MONEY. 02:43:53.190 --> 02:43:56.560 YEAH. THE THE COUNTY'S PUT IN UM WHAT WE 02:43:56.626 --> 02:43:59.930 CALL THE COUNTY, UH FACILITIES FUND. YEAH. 02:43:59.996 --> 02:44:00.997 YEAH, SURE. 02:44:01.631 --> 02:44:03.266 IT'S BUDGET RELATED. SO I THINK ZOLOFT 02:44:03.333 --> 02:44:04.334 WAS MUCH BETTER. 02:44:06.236 --> 02:44:09.506 AND THE REASON I ASK THAT AS YOU'RE GIVING 02:44:09.573 --> 02:44:13.143 AN ANSWER IS THAT IF THIS WAS THE COUNTIES 02:44:13.210 --> 02:44:15.679 AND THEIR PLANS REFLECTED SOMETHING THAT 02:44:15.745 --> 02:44:16.947 WAS INACCURATE. 02:44:17.747 --> 02:44:19.883 THEN MY FIRST GUESS WOULD HAVE BEEN 02:44:19.950 --> 02:44:21.985 THEN THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LITIGATION 02:44:22.052 --> 02:44:24.454 AGAINST THE COUNTY, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE 02:44:24.521 --> 02:44:26.089 BEEN THE ONES THAT FOOTED THE BILL AS 02:44:26.156 --> 02:44:27.157 OPPOSED TO THE STATE. 02:44:28.024 --> 02:44:29.259 YES, SENATOR, IF I MIGHT. 02:44:29.326 --> 02:44:31.228 THERE WAS AN ENTIRE PROCESS BY WHICH 02:44:31.428 --> 02:44:33.563 THE JUDICIAL BRANCH, THE STATE TOOK 02:44:33.630 --> 02:44:37.267 A RESPONSIBILITY FOR, UM, COURT 02:44:37.334 --> 02:44:40.604 FACILITIES, AN ENTIRE SET OF LEGISLATION 02:44:40.670 --> 02:44:43.506 AND A LENGTHY PROCESS OF THIS TRANSFER 02:44:43.573 --> 02:44:47.177 PROCESS, NOT A PAYMENT AND PURCHASE ALL THAT 02:44:47.244 --> 02:44:49.145 COUNTIES WERE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE WAS SOME 02:44:49.212 --> 02:44:51.681 LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE FUNDING, SOMETIMES 02:44:51.748 --> 02:44:53.116 $0.25 A SQUARE FOOT. 02:44:53.183 --> 02:44:55.185 SO WE GOT WE DIDN'T GET A GREAT DEAL FROM 02:44:55.252 --> 02:44:57.120 THE COUNTIES, BUT THAT WAS THE ARRANGEMENT. 02:44:57.187 --> 02:44:59.923 AND SO A NUMBER OF THESE THESE BUILDINGS ARE 02:44:59.990 --> 02:45:03.126 OURS, NOT A FINANCIAL TRANSACTION. 02:45:03.193 --> 02:45:05.929 AND THEN WE ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM. 02:45:05.996 --> 02:45:07.464 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS BUILDING, WHEN IT 02:45:07.530 --> 02:45:09.966 WAS DETERMINED IT WAS IT WAS DETERMINED TO 02:45:10.033 --> 02:45:11.768 BE LIKE RED TAG, LIKE IT COULD NOT BE USED. 02:45:11.835 --> 02:45:14.604 SO IT BECAME A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT WAS NO LONGER 02:45:14.671 --> 02:45:17.807 AN ABILITY TO USE IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE FIRE 02:45:17.874 --> 02:45:20.110 SYSTEM WAS DISCOVERED AND THEY OPENED UP 02:45:20.176 --> 02:45:22.846 THE RAFTERS AND WHERE THEY EXPECT TO SEE METAL 02:45:23.280 --> 02:45:24.781 STUDS, THEY WERE WOOD. 02:45:24.981 --> 02:45:27.050 SO THE BUILDING THAT'S TO TAMARA'S POINT, IS 02:45:27.117 --> 02:45:30.053 THAT THE BUILDING WAS NOT BUILT TO THE SPEC IN 02:45:30.120 --> 02:45:32.589 THE IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, BUT WE NOW 02:45:32.656 --> 02:45:34.424 ARE THE OWNERS OF THAT BUILDING. 02:45:34.858 --> 02:45:36.359 UM, AND THEREFORE THAT'S WHY IT'S OUR 02:45:36.426 --> 02:45:37.360 RESPONSIBILITY. 02:45:37.427 --> 02:45:40.764 THERE WASN'T A, A, A, A PURCHASE BETWEEN US. 02:45:40.830 --> 02:45:43.466 IT IS THE PROBLEM THAT NOW WE'VE INHERITED 02:45:43.700 --> 02:45:46.469 AND WHY WE HAVE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT NEED IS 02:45:46.803 --> 02:45:48.938 THE COUNTIES WHEN THEY WERE LIKE A USED CAR, 02:45:49.005 --> 02:45:50.407 IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SELL IT, YOU DON'T 02:45:50.473 --> 02:45:52.075 PUT NEW TIRES ON IT. YOU DON'T CHANGE THE OIL. 02:45:52.142 --> 02:45:54.711 YOU JUST HOPE THE NEXT PERSON GETS IT 02:45:54.778 --> 02:45:56.479 AND BUYS IT, AND THEN THEY MOVE ON. 02:45:56.546 --> 02:46:00.083 WE INHERITED COURTS IN DISREPAIR. 02:46:00.150 --> 02:46:01.151 OKAY. 02:46:01.551 --> 02:46:04.721 AND THEN AS YOU SAID, THEN IT IS DETERMINED 02:46:04.788 --> 02:46:06.089 TO BE A PRIORITY. 02:46:06.156 --> 02:46:07.524 AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. 02:46:07.791 --> 02:46:10.560 IT ISN'T JUST THAT, OH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED 02:46:10.627 --> 02:46:12.128 AN EXTRA $80 MILLION. 02:46:12.195 --> 02:46:14.164 CAN YOU PUSH THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET? 02:46:14.764 --> 02:46:16.833 THERE WAS A PROCESS TO DETERMINE THAT 02:46:16.900 --> 02:46:18.001 IT WAS A PRIORITY. 02:46:18.068 --> 02:46:19.936 YEAH. AND SIMILAR TO THE SPRING STREET 02:46:20.503 --> 02:46:22.072 BUILDING, NOT ON OUR LIST, NOT ON ON ANY 02:46:22.138 --> 02:46:23.073 RADAR. 02:46:23.139 --> 02:46:24.074 AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE FEDERAL 02:46:24.140 --> 02:46:25.575 GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU ARE NO LONGER GOING TO 02:46:25.642 --> 02:46:27.177 BE ABLE TO BE A TENANT IN THAT BUILDING. 02:46:27.377 --> 02:46:29.446 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THAT PROJECT IN 02:46:29.512 --> 02:46:31.081 LOS ANGELES BECAME THE NUMBER ONE 02:46:31.147 --> 02:46:32.649 PRIORITY LAST YEAR. 02:46:32.716 --> 02:46:34.517 SO WHILE WE HAVEN'T BUILT SOMETHING NEW, WE 02:46:34.584 --> 02:46:36.920 PUT THAT AS THE FIRST PRIORITY FOR THE BRANCH. 02:46:36.986 --> 02:46:39.489 AND THE LEGISLATURE SAW FIT TO TO AGREE 02:46:39.556 --> 02:46:40.490 WITH THAT. 02:46:40.557 --> 02:46:42.359 VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, 02:46:42.425 --> 02:46:43.360 MADAM CHAIR. 02:46:43.426 --> 02:46:46.396 YES. LET ME FURTHER BUILD UPON WHAT SENATOR 02:46:46.463 --> 02:46:48.765 REYES IS SAYING. DON'T LEAVE YET. 02:46:49.399 --> 02:46:51.334 MR.. MR. Z, RIGHT HERE. 02:46:54.204 --> 02:46:58.274 SO DON'T THE COUNTIES CONTRIBUTE ANNUALLY 02:46:58.341 --> 02:47:02.078 TOWARDS THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN 02:47:02.145 --> 02:47:03.213 THE COURTHOUSES? 02:47:03.580 --> 02:47:05.749 UH, FROM A FACILITY STANDPOINT OR FROM 02:47:05.815 --> 02:47:08.084 A THERE IS A COUNTY FACILITY PAYMENT 02:47:08.151 --> 02:47:09.085 THAT IS MADE. 02:47:09.152 --> 02:47:11.087 IT IS GOES INTO A FUND CALLED THE COURT 02:47:11.154 --> 02:47:12.956 FACILITIES TRUST FUND, AND IT AND IT 02:47:13.022 --> 02:47:15.658 CONTRIBUTES TO SOME SMALL AMOUNT OF 02:47:15.992 --> 02:47:17.827 OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, 02:47:17.894 --> 02:47:19.963 BUT NOT THE FACILITY MODIFICATIONS THAT 02:47:20.029 --> 02:47:20.964 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 02:47:21.030 --> 02:47:24.300 AND SO THOSE ARE FIXED IN PERPETUITY WITH NO 02:47:24.367 --> 02:47:25.869 INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT. 02:47:26.469 --> 02:47:29.005 THE COUNTIES ARE AND AGAIN, MANY OF THOSE 02:47:29.072 --> 02:47:32.642 TRANSFERS CAME WITH VERY LITTLE UM FISCAL SUPPORT 02:47:32.709 --> 02:47:35.078 FROM THE COUNTIES TO EFFECTUATE THE THE 02:47:35.145 --> 02:47:36.246 TRANSFER. 02:47:36.312 --> 02:47:39.816 AND WHEN YOU SAY THOSE AMOUNTS ARE FIXED, HOW 02:47:39.883 --> 02:47:40.884 ARE THEY FIXED? 02:47:40.950 --> 02:47:43.753 ARE THEY FIXED BY THE CONSTITUTION? 02:47:43.820 --> 02:47:45.588 ARE THEY FIXED BY LEGISLATION. 02:47:45.655 --> 02:47:47.624 ARE THEY FIXED THROUGH THE GENTLEMAN'S 02:47:47.690 --> 02:47:48.625 AGREEMENT? 02:47:48.691 --> 02:47:50.226 NO. THERE ARE THERE WERE TRANSFER 02:47:50.293 --> 02:47:53.396 AGREEMENTS THAT WERE A PART OF THE COUNTY, 02:47:53.463 --> 02:47:55.565 THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL AND THE DEPARTMENT OF 02:47:55.632 --> 02:47:58.468 FINANCE LETTERS THAT STATED THE AMOUNT. 02:47:58.535 --> 02:48:00.470 THERE WAS DISPUTE RESOLUTION PATHS 02:48:00.670 --> 02:48:02.505 THAT UM, IF WE FELT THAT THE NUMBER 02:48:02.572 --> 02:48:05.141 WASN'T SUFFICIENT, BUT IT WAS BASED ON 02:48:05.208 --> 02:48:06.309 ACTUAL EXPENDITURES. 02:48:06.376 --> 02:48:09.279 AND AGAIN, THE COUNTY SAW THIS COMING YEARS 02:48:09.345 --> 02:48:10.280 IN ADVANCE. 02:48:10.346 --> 02:48:12.382 AND SO WHEN THEY DID THE LOOK BACK PERIOD, 02:48:12.449 --> 02:48:14.384 IT WAS DURING A POINT WHEN THEY WERE BARELY 02:48:14.451 --> 02:48:15.785 SPENDING ANY MONEY ON MAINTENANCE OF OUR 02:48:15.852 --> 02:48:16.786 BUILDINGS. 02:48:16.853 --> 02:48:19.956 RIGHT. SO BUILDING UPON WHAT SENATOR REYES 02:48:20.023 --> 02:48:22.859 WAS SAYING, THOUGH, IS IF THE STATE OF 02:48:22.926 --> 02:48:25.462 CALIFORNIA WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE WERE 02:48:25.528 --> 02:48:28.164 GETTING SOMETHING OF VALUE AND HENCE WHAT WE 02:48:28.231 --> 02:48:31.501 WERE GETTING OF VALUE, WE WERE WILLING TO TAKE 02:48:31.568 --> 02:48:33.937 ON A GREATER ROLE OF PAYMENT BECAUSE WE'RE 02:48:34.003 --> 02:48:35.538 GETTING THE VALUE OF THIS BUILDING. 02:48:35.605 --> 02:48:38.041 AND IF, IN FACT, WHAT WE RECEIVED IS NOT WHAT 02:48:38.107 --> 02:48:43.947 WE THOUGHT, THEN THAT LEADS TO NOT THAT, UM, 02:48:44.414 --> 02:48:46.149 WE NECESSARILY ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD 02:48:46.216 --> 02:48:47.116 WITH ANYTHING. 02:48:47.183 --> 02:48:48.585 WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, BUT OUR POINT 02:48:48.651 --> 02:48:52.055 IS WHAT SENATOR REYES AND I CONCUR WITH HER 02:48:52.388 --> 02:48:55.792 IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES NOW WE'RE 02:48:56.392 --> 02:48:59.262 GETTING STUCK FIXING SOMETHING THAT WE 02:48:59.329 --> 02:49:01.364 DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX. 02:49:01.431 --> 02:49:03.500 I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING TEN APPLES IN A BAG, 02:49:03.566 --> 02:49:05.034 AND IN FACT, I GOT FOUR. 02:49:05.335 --> 02:49:07.203 SO YOU KNOW. 02:49:07.270 --> 02:49:10.073 OKAY. SO THEN MAYBE THAT'S ALSO REFLECTIVE 02:49:10.139 --> 02:49:13.209 IN WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, 02:49:13.276 --> 02:49:15.311 WHETHER IT'S NEW JUDGESHIPS OR WHETHER 02:49:15.378 --> 02:49:19.082 IT'S WHATEVER, MAYBE ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO 02:49:19.148 --> 02:49:21.284 BE CONSIDERED BASED UPON IMPACTS. 02:49:21.351 --> 02:49:22.619 I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS 02:49:22.685 --> 02:49:25.188 JUST IF WE CAN HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN ONE 02:49:25.255 --> 02:49:27.657 AREA, THEN WE NEED TO ALWAYS BE FLEXIBLE IN 02:49:27.724 --> 02:49:30.460 ALL AREAS, UNDERSTANDING THAT DIFFERENT THINGS 02:49:30.527 --> 02:49:31.461 HAPPEN. 02:49:31.528 --> 02:49:33.429 AND IF THEY HAPPEN AND WE END UP HAVING 02:49:33.496 --> 02:49:37.200 TO HOLD THE BAG WITH IT, THEN WE MAY THEN 02:49:37.267 --> 02:49:39.302 WANT ADJUSTMENTS, NOT ADJUSTMENTS 02:49:39.369 --> 02:49:41.037 CONSIDERATIONS IN OTHER AREAS. 02:49:41.104 --> 02:49:42.405 THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR. AND I WOULD WANT TO 02:49:42.472 --> 02:49:44.807 CLARIFY, SIMILAR TO THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE 02:49:44.874 --> 02:49:47.377 WHERE WE SAID IT WAS $6 BILLION AND WE HAVE SOME 02:49:47.443 --> 02:49:49.646 OF THESE MANY OF THESE BUILDINGS DO HAVE SOME 02:49:49.712 --> 02:49:52.982 SHARE OF OWED AMOUNTS BY THE COUNTY. 02:49:53.049 --> 02:49:57.086 SO IT'S NOT A FULL 100% PAYMENT ON OUR END. 02:49:57.153 --> 02:49:59.489 SOMETIMES THEY ARE THE MAJOR OCCUPANT 02:49:59.556 --> 02:50:00.857 AND WE PAY A SHARE. 02:50:01.124 --> 02:50:04.093 UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE 40% OR 30%. 02:50:04.160 --> 02:50:07.030 SO IT VARIES DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH OF THE SPACE 02:50:07.096 --> 02:50:09.399 WAS SHARED USE AND THAT THEY STILL THERE'S 02:50:09.465 --> 02:50:11.768 A JOINT OCCUPANCY AGREEMENT WITHOUT THAT 02:50:11.834 --> 02:50:14.070 THAT LAYS OUT ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES. 02:50:14.137 --> 02:50:17.540 AND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF, UM, ANY, 02:50:17.607 --> 02:50:20.610 ANY PAYMENTS OF, OF MAINTENANCE THAT HAPPEN. 02:50:21.444 --> 02:50:24.013 SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, THIS BUILDING, THE JUDICIAL 02:50:24.080 --> 02:50:25.982 COUNCIL, WE OWN TITLE TO THIS BUILDING. 02:50:26.049 --> 02:50:28.518 WE OWN OUR EQUITY SHARES 66%. 02:50:28.585 --> 02:50:31.955 SO THE OTHER 34% IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY THAT 02:50:32.021 --> 02:50:34.691 JOE THAT JOINT OCCUPANCY AGREEMENT GOVERNS WHO 02:50:34.757 --> 02:50:36.159 PAYS WHAT FOR WHAT. 02:50:36.426 --> 02:50:38.528 UM MADAM CHAIR, YOUR EXAMPLE I WOULD 02:50:38.595 --> 02:50:41.464 SAY THE AND HOLD ME THE TRIAL COURT 02:50:41.531 --> 02:50:44.167 FACILITY ACT OF 2002. 02:50:44.601 --> 02:50:46.369 THE FOUR APPLES THAT YOU GOT WHEN YOU 02:50:46.436 --> 02:50:48.638 WERE SUPPOSED TO GET TEN HAPPENED IN 2002 02:50:48.705 --> 02:50:50.039 OR EARLY 2000. 02:50:50.239 --> 02:50:52.241 AND THERE WAS STATUTE THAT GOVERNED. 02:50:52.475 --> 02:50:54.944 YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GOT IS YOUR GOOD WITH IT. 02:50:55.011 --> 02:50:56.846 SO THAT IS AN EXAMPLE. 02:50:56.913 --> 02:50:59.415 UM, THAT'S WHERE WE SIT WITH THIS PORTFOLIO. 02:50:59.816 --> 02:51:02.452 RIGHT. BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOOD 02:51:02.518 --> 02:51:03.686 WITH IT AT THAT TIME. 02:51:03.753 --> 02:51:08.791 BUT THE STATUTE HAD NO GUARDRAILS 02:51:08.858 --> 02:51:11.027 OR REQUIREMENTS OR AGREEMENTS. 02:51:11.094 --> 02:51:12.028 I UNDERSTAND. 02:51:12.095 --> 02:51:14.998 AND ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS AS MUCH AS 02:51:15.064 --> 02:51:17.500 WE HAVE, I THINK, A GOOD WE DO HAVE A VERY GOOD 02:51:17.567 --> 02:51:18.701 GOVERNANCE PROCESS. 02:51:18.935 --> 02:51:21.904 IT'S IT'S A FACTOR OF A LACK OF FUNDING. 02:51:22.205 --> 02:51:24.207 I MEAN, IF WE COULD DO MORE, IF WE HAD 02:51:24.273 --> 02:51:26.509 MORE FUNDING, WE'D BE FURTHER DOWN THE LIST 02:51:26.576 --> 02:51:27.510 TO A MOSQUE. 02:51:27.577 --> 02:51:28.978 WE'D BE FURTHER DOWN. 02:51:29.178 --> 02:51:31.547 YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE 02:51:31.614 --> 02:51:33.416 HAD GOOD PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION 02:51:33.483 --> 02:51:34.417 AND THE LEGISLATURE. 02:51:34.484 --> 02:51:37.186 AND AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS A REFLECTION 02:51:37.253 --> 02:51:39.055 OF ALL THREE COMING TOGETHER TO DO THAT. 02:51:39.122 --> 02:51:40.056 THANK YOU. 02:51:40.123 --> 02:51:41.791 YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN BEEN TREMENDOUS. 02:51:41.858 --> 02:51:44.127 BUT BUT ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE THIS IS THE FIRST 02:51:44.193 --> 02:51:45.995 TIME AND I'VE BEEN IN THE BRANCH FOR 15 YEARS. 02:51:46.062 --> 02:51:49.098 WE'VE GOTTEN THIS KIND OF INFUSION 02:51:49.732 --> 02:51:50.700 FROM ANY SOURCE. 02:51:50.767 --> 02:51:53.336 I MEAN, BE IT THE, THE, THE LEGISLATURE OR 02:51:53.403 --> 02:51:55.838 THE ADMINISTRATION IN PROPOSED BUDGETS THAT 02:51:55.905 --> 02:51:56.873 THEN COME TO FRUITION. 02:51:56.939 --> 02:51:58.274 SO WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT 02:51:58.341 --> 02:51:59.342 VERY MUCH. 02:52:03.379 --> 02:52:06.082 I AM WITNESS TO WHAT SHE DID. 02:52:06.482 --> 02:52:07.917 THANK YOU. IT'S VERY KIND. 02:52:08.217 --> 02:52:11.821 UM, AS WE WRAP UP THIS FOURTH PANEL, UM, I JUST 02:52:11.888 --> 02:52:15.825 WANT TO BRING A FEW THINGS, UM, FORWARD. 02:52:16.025 --> 02:52:18.861 UM, ONE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO'S LISTENING TO 02:52:18.928 --> 02:52:21.230 THIS OF NUMBERS AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S 02:52:21.297 --> 02:52:22.832 GOING WHERE AND SO ON. 02:52:22.899 --> 02:52:25.368 I WANT TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE 1.8 02:52:25.435 --> 02:52:28.504 BILLION THAT IS BEING EXPENDED FOR THE CAPITAL 02:52:28.571 --> 02:52:31.140 OUTLAY FACILITY MODIFICATION PROJECTS 02:52:31.340 --> 02:52:34.010 FUNDED IN 2026 BUDGET. 02:52:34.343 --> 02:52:37.613 UM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 02:52:37.680 --> 02:52:43.953 RECEIVING THE LA SECTION 36.4%, ALTHOUGH 02:52:44.020 --> 02:52:48.224 WE SERVE 70.7% OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION. 02:52:48.291 --> 02:52:50.259 SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, EVEN THOUGH 02:52:50.326 --> 02:52:52.862 THEY SEE SOME NUMBERS RECEIVING SOMETHING, 02:52:52.929 --> 02:52:55.465 YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AGAIN, THE POPULATION, 02:52:55.531 --> 02:52:57.100 THE CASELOAD AND EVERYTHING 02:52:57.734 --> 02:52:59.469 SIMILARLY, NOT. 02:52:59.535 --> 02:53:04.207 SIMILARLY, THE CENTRAL COAST RECEIVED 19.0% 02:53:04.273 --> 02:53:06.542 OF THAT FUNDING, EVEN THOUGH THEY SERVE ONLY 02:53:06.609 --> 02:53:08.544 2% OF THE POPULATION. 02:53:09.011 --> 02:53:12.815 SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE JUSTICE HILL, WE'VE, 02:53:12.882 --> 02:53:14.484 WE'VE SAID THIS THREE TIMES NOW IN 02:53:14.550 --> 02:53:15.585 THE PREVIOUS PANELS. 02:53:15.651 --> 02:53:17.453 I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU AS A MAN OF YOUR WORD. 02:53:17.520 --> 02:53:19.689 YOU GOT TO STAY THERE. NO RETIRING. 02:53:20.523 --> 02:53:24.627 UM, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO 02:53:24.694 --> 02:53:25.762 WORKING WITH YOU. 02:53:25.828 --> 02:53:28.865 AND THE SAME COULD BE SAID FOR THE BUDGET ACT, 02:53:28.931 --> 02:53:29.866 DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 02:53:29.932 --> 02:53:31.968 AND I'LL BE SUBMITTING THESE CHARTS THAT MY 02:53:32.034 --> 02:53:33.770 STAFF CREATED FOR THE RECORD. 02:53:34.036 --> 02:53:37.373 UM, WE'RE GOING TO ALL WE'RE GOING TO ASK IS 02:53:37.440 --> 02:53:39.242 WE'RE GOING TO WORK AS HARD AS WE CAN TO 02:53:39.308 --> 02:53:42.612 CONTINUE GIVING YOU THIS SUSTAINABLE AMOUNT 02:53:42.678 --> 02:53:45.448 OF FUNDING NEEDED TO MAKE THE REPAIRS. 02:53:45.515 --> 02:53:47.049 ALL WE'RE GOING TO ASK IS WE KNOW 02:53:47.116 --> 02:53:48.184 EMERGENCIES HAPPEN. 02:53:48.251 --> 02:53:51.020 WE KNOW THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE ALSO 02:53:51.087 --> 02:53:55.024 KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXPECTATION THAT 02:53:55.491 --> 02:53:58.060 HIGHEST AND FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES WITH 02:53:58.127 --> 02:53:59.162 GREATER NEEDS. 02:53:59.362 --> 02:54:01.397 JUST THAT SAME FLEXIBILITY WHERE 02:54:01.464 --> 02:54:03.332 SOMETHING CAME AND IT WASN'T ON A LIST 02:54:03.399 --> 02:54:04.801 AND NOW IT'S ON A LIST. 02:54:05.034 --> 02:54:07.236 WE JUST NEED, WITH SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL 02:54:07.303 --> 02:54:10.840 FUNDS TO BE REALLY GOING AFTER THESE GREATEST 02:54:10.907 --> 02:54:14.043 NEED AREAS SO THAT THAT WAY WE CAN CHIP AWAY 02:54:14.410 --> 02:54:16.479 AND THEY'RE NOT FOREVER THE GREATEST NEED. 02:54:16.546 --> 02:54:19.849 THEY CAN GET IN THE 30 PERCENTILE OF WHERE 02:54:19.916 --> 02:54:21.517 THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE INSTEAD OF 02:54:21.584 --> 02:54:24.487 THE, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS HUGE HOLE THAT 02:54:24.554 --> 02:54:27.056 THEY'RE DIGGING OUT OF THAT PEOPLE AREN'T 02:54:27.123 --> 02:54:32.461 RECEIVING TIMELY CASES AND TIMELY RESOLUTIONS 02:54:32.528 --> 02:54:33.863 AS THEY SO DESERVE. 02:54:34.130 --> 02:54:36.566 SO WITH THAT, IF YOU'D HANG TIGHT, 02:54:36.833 --> 02:54:38.801 WHERE IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO BE SPEAKING 02:54:38.868 --> 02:54:39.869 THE PUBLIC COMMENT? 02:54:40.436 --> 02:54:43.406 OKAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST STAY WHERE YOU ARE. 02:54:43.472 --> 02:54:45.007 IT'LL SAVE US A LITTLE TIME. 02:54:45.508 --> 02:54:47.343 THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE. 02:54:47.410 --> 02:54:50.079 UM, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT JUSTICE PRICE 02:54:50.313 --> 02:54:53.683 AND JUSTICE FILER SPEAK FIRST AND WE 02:54:53.749 --> 02:54:56.252 WON'T HOLD YOU TO A TIME COMMITMENT. 02:54:56.853 --> 02:54:59.121 JUST. YOU ARE OUR HOST HERE. 02:54:59.188 --> 02:55:00.256 JUSTICE PRICE IS LIKE. 02:55:00.323 --> 02:55:01.824 I DIDN'T PLAN ON SAYING ANYTHING. 02:55:02.124 --> 02:55:06.128 UM, BUT YOU ARE OUR HOST, AND WE WANT TO 02:55:06.195 --> 02:55:08.664 GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY BASED UPON. 02:55:08.965 --> 02:55:12.468 YOU'VE HEARD COMMENTS OF NEEDING NEW JUDGES, 02:55:12.535 --> 02:55:15.338 YOU'VE HEARD COMMENTS OF JUSTICE SALARIES. 02:55:15.404 --> 02:55:18.140 YOU'VE HEARD COMMENTS OF NEW COURTROOMS 02:55:18.207 --> 02:55:19.809 AND FACILITIES NEEDED. 02:55:20.109 --> 02:55:22.445 UM, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVES OF BEING 02:55:22.511 --> 02:55:27.316 JUSTICES, WHY YOU CONCUR OR DON'T CONCUR 02:55:27.383 --> 02:55:29.385 THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT. 02:55:29.452 --> 02:55:31.921 AND THEN THE REST, UM, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO 02:55:31.988 --> 02:55:34.223 MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, COULD YOU PLEASE COME 02:55:34.290 --> 02:55:36.692 AND STAND, UM, BEHIND THEM? 02:55:36.759 --> 02:55:38.828 AND THEN THAT WAY WE'LL TAKE THOSE COMMENTS 02:55:38.895 --> 02:55:41.564 QUICKLY IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. 02:55:42.331 --> 02:55:45.134 YES, MADAM CHAIR, MY NAME IS KELVIN FILER 02:55:45.201 --> 02:55:47.637 AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE SUPERVISING JUDGE OF 02:55:47.703 --> 02:55:48.638 THE COMPTON COURTHOUSE. 02:55:48.704 --> 02:55:50.172 AND I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I WAS 02:55:50.239 --> 02:55:52.441 GOING TO STAND UP BECAUSE I WANTED TO 02:55:52.508 --> 02:55:54.543 COME UP HERE AND SAY THANK YOU. 02:55:55.378 --> 02:55:58.147 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS 02:55:58.214 --> 02:56:00.883 SESSION IN THE COMPTON COURTHOUSE IN MY 02:56:00.950 --> 02:56:01.951 HOMETOWN. 02:56:02.351 --> 02:56:03.519 AND I WAS LISTENING VERY CAREFULLY. 02:56:03.586 --> 02:56:04.720 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN THROUGH 02:56:04.787 --> 02:56:06.722 AN ENTIRE LEGISLATIVE SESSION LIKE THIS, 02:56:06.789 --> 02:56:09.725 AND I WAS EXTREMELY IMPRESSED BY BOTH OF 02:56:09.792 --> 02:56:13.129 THE STATE SENATORS, YOUR INQUIRIES, THE FACT THAT 02:56:13.195 --> 02:56:15.164 YOU ASKED THE PANELISTS TO GIVE YOU SOME 02:56:15.231 --> 02:56:17.333 SUGGESTIONS, GIVE YOU SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS, 02:56:17.400 --> 02:56:18.868 AND SAID, AND DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM 02:56:18.935 --> 02:56:20.403 TO ME NOW. GIVE THEM TO US LATER. 02:56:20.670 --> 02:56:25.441 THAT SHOWS SINCERITY, THAT SHOWS LEGISLATIVE 02:56:25.508 --> 02:56:29.912 EMPATHY, THAT SHOWS HUMILITY, AND THAT SHOWS 02:56:29.979 --> 02:56:33.015 SINCERITY ON THE PART OF BOTH OF YOU. 02:56:33.416 --> 02:56:35.418 AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT 02:56:35.484 --> 02:56:36.719 AND SAY THANK YOU. 02:56:36.786 --> 02:56:38.721 AND YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME BACK TO 02:56:38.788 --> 02:56:39.889 THE COMPTON COURTHOUSE. 02:56:39.956 --> 02:56:40.990 THANK YOU. 02:56:41.057 --> 02:56:42.391 THANK YOU, JUSTICE FINLEY. 02:56:42.992 --> 02:56:45.328 I'M NOT SURE I COULD SAY IT ANY BETTER. 02:56:45.394 --> 02:56:47.830 UM, MY NAME IS JUDGE ASHLEY PRICE, 02:56:47.897 --> 02:56:50.399 AND I AM THE ASSISTANT SUPERVISING JUDGE HERE. 02:56:50.466 --> 02:56:53.202 AND I WOULD JUST ECHO JUDGE FOWLER'S COMMENT. 02:56:53.269 --> 02:56:55.004 IT'S BEEN SUCH A PLEASURE TO HOST 02:56:55.071 --> 02:56:57.106 YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TO 02:56:57.173 --> 02:56:58.107 THIS COURTHOUSE. 02:56:58.174 --> 02:57:00.443 AND WE JUST HAVE SUCH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF 02:57:00.509 --> 02:57:02.478 PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 02:57:02.545 --> 02:57:04.747 AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU'VE ALSO TAKEN 02:57:04.814 --> 02:57:06.482 AN INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR 02:57:06.549 --> 02:57:08.451 COURTHOUSE AND COME HERE WITH YOUR STAFF ON 02:57:08.517 --> 02:57:11.487 SEVERAL OCCASIONS, UM, MEANS SO MUCH TO US. 02:57:11.554 --> 02:57:13.389 SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ASKING SUCH 02:57:13.456 --> 02:57:15.291 THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO GET US 02:57:15.358 --> 02:57:17.293 THE HELP THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THIS COURTHOUSE 02:57:17.360 --> 02:57:21.597 RUNNING SO WE CAN BRING JUSTICE TO OUR COMMUNITY 02:57:21.664 --> 02:57:24.000 AND CONTINUE TO DO OUR JOBS TO THE BEST OF OUR 02:57:24.066 --> 02:57:25.701 ABILITY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 02:57:26.235 --> 02:57:29.338 JUSTICE PRICE, UM, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THOUGH, 02:57:29.405 --> 02:57:32.808 UM, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS NOT PRIVY TO YOUR 02:57:32.875 --> 02:57:35.611 COURTHOUSE AND JUSTICE FILER HAS SO KINDLY 02:57:35.678 --> 02:57:37.947 HELPED TO EDUCATE US ABOUT IT, COULD 02:57:38.014 --> 02:57:41.617 YOU BRIEFLY SAY, UM, THE FACT THE UNIQUENESS 02:57:41.684 --> 02:57:44.920 OF YOUR COURTHOUSE, WHY RESOURCES ARE SO NEEDED 02:57:44.987 --> 02:57:48.891 FOR MORE COURTROOMS LIKE YOURS, UM, THAT ARE 02:57:48.958 --> 02:57:49.892 HELPING. 02:57:49.959 --> 02:57:52.528 CAN YOU TELL PEOPLE VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW 02:57:52.595 --> 02:57:54.130 YOU DO YOUR COURTROOM DIFFERENTLY? 02:57:54.196 --> 02:57:55.765 YOU'RE WORKING WITH CHILDREN, YOU'RE WORKING 02:57:55.831 --> 02:57:58.234 WITH PARENTS THAT YOU SIT DIFFERENTLY THE WAY 02:57:58.300 --> 02:58:00.469 THAT YOU'RE WORKING THE, YOU KNOW, THE FACT 02:58:00.536 --> 02:58:03.572 THAT YOU ARE LITERALLY PROVIDING CHILD CARE 02:58:03.639 --> 02:58:06.075 WHILE THE CASE IS GOING ON. 02:58:06.308 --> 02:58:08.577 WHY DIFFERENT COURTROOMS, THIS KIND OF 02:58:08.644 --> 02:58:10.913 FUNDING IS SO NEEDED. 02:58:11.180 --> 02:58:13.215 UM, IN NOT ONLY YOUR COURTROOM, 02:58:13.282 --> 02:58:14.850 BUT COURTROOMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE 02:58:14.917 --> 02:58:15.918 OF CALIFORNIA. 02:58:16.118 --> 02:58:19.055 THANK YOU. SO JUDGE TAPIA, WITH HIS 02:58:19.121 --> 02:58:21.857 SUPPORT, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE A VERY UNIQUE 02:58:21.924 --> 02:58:23.793 COURTROOM HERE IN THE COMPTON COURTHOUSE. 02:58:23.859 --> 02:58:25.628 IT WAS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THE STATE 02:58:25.694 --> 02:58:26.762 OF CALIFORNIA. 02:58:26.996 --> 02:58:29.298 IT'S A DEPENDENCY COURTROOM THAT SERVES 02:58:29.698 --> 02:58:33.469 THIS SPECIFIC AREA, THE SIX CLOSEST ZIP 02:58:33.536 --> 02:58:37.473 CODES TO THE COURTHOUSE FOR FAMILIES WHO HAVE 02:58:38.274 --> 02:58:40.910 DEPENDENCY ISSUES, ABUSE AND NEGLECT ALLEGATIONS 02:58:40.976 --> 02:58:41.911 AGAINST THEM. 02:58:41.977 --> 02:58:44.213 BUT THEY HAVE CHILDREN UNDER THE AGES OF THREE. 02:58:44.713 --> 02:58:46.749 THE SCIENCE TELLS US THAT THAT'S THE MOST 02:58:46.816 --> 02:58:50.152 IMPORTANT TIME FOR EARLY INTERVENTION AND SUPPORT 02:58:50.219 --> 02:58:52.788 FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE CHILDREN, BUT ALSO OUR 02:58:52.855 --> 02:58:56.225 MOST VULNERABLE PARENTS DURING THAT POSTPARTUM 02:58:56.926 --> 02:58:57.860 TIME. 02:58:57.927 --> 02:59:00.563 AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE DATA AND THIS 02:59:00.629 --> 02:59:02.798 AREA WAS PARTICULARLY IMPACTED BY 02:59:02.865 --> 02:59:04.333 DEPENDENCY CASES. 02:59:04.533 --> 02:59:07.470 SO THE COURT WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO BRIDGE 02:59:07.536 --> 02:59:09.738 THAT GAP AND REACH OUT TO THOSE FAMILIES, 02:59:09.805 --> 02:59:11.707 GIVE THEM THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEEDED. 02:59:11.907 --> 02:59:13.242 AND THE GOAL OF THE COURTROOM IS TO 02:59:13.309 --> 02:59:15.744 REALLY KEEP CHILDREN SAFE BY KEEPING THEM 02:59:15.811 --> 02:59:18.180 SAFE AT HOME, BY SUPPORTING THEIR 02:59:18.247 --> 02:59:20.616 PARENTS, GIVING EXTRA SERVICES. 02:59:20.983 --> 02:59:23.719 AND SO ONE OF OUR PARTNERS IS HERE, UM, 02:59:23.786 --> 02:59:26.122 MISS HIM RIGHT BEHIND ME FROM CHILDREN'S 02:59:26.188 --> 02:59:27.189 LAW CENTER. 02:59:27.256 --> 02:59:29.358 AND WE'VE SEEN THAT WHEN YOU DO THINGS 02:59:29.425 --> 02:59:31.160 DIFFERENTLY, YOU HAVE GREAT RESULTS. 02:59:31.227 --> 02:59:34.864 SO JUST AS YOU HAVE COME AND SAT EYE LEVEL 02:59:34.930 --> 02:59:37.433 WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND TAKEN TESTIMONY, 02:59:37.500 --> 02:59:40.035 THAT'S WHAT I DID IN MY COURTROOM AS WELL, IS 02:59:40.102 --> 02:59:42.538 COME DOWN OFF THE BENCH AND SPEAK TO PARENTS 02:59:42.771 --> 02:59:44.540 AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY REALLY NEEDED TO 02:59:44.607 --> 02:59:47.143 TRY AND GET DOWN TO THE ROOT OF THE ISSUES 02:59:47.209 --> 02:59:49.378 AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IN A COMMUNITY 02:59:49.445 --> 02:59:51.747 THAT SOMETIMES HAS DISTRUST OF THE COURT 02:59:51.814 --> 02:59:54.416 SYSTEM, THAT THEY WERE WELCOME TO COME TO OUR 02:59:54.483 --> 02:59:56.886 COURTHOUSE, GET HELP, GET SUPPORT THAT THEY 02:59:56.952 --> 02:59:57.887 NEEDED. 02:59:57.953 --> 02:59:59.555 AND SO WE'RE JUST VERY GRATEFUL THAT 02:59:59.622 --> 03:00:01.991 YOU CAME TO SUPPORT THAT COURTROOM. 03:00:02.057 --> 03:00:04.193 I'VE SINCE MOVED INTO ANOTHER COURT, BUT IT'S 03:00:04.260 --> 03:00:07.196 BEING MANNED NOW BY ANOTHER GREAT JUDICIAL 03:00:07.263 --> 03:00:09.632 OFFICER BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUED SUPPORT 03:00:09.698 --> 03:00:10.633 FROM THE COMMUNITY. 03:00:10.699 --> 03:00:13.202 AS WE TRY AND REALLY KEEP THOSE FAMILIES 03:00:13.269 --> 03:00:15.504 TOGETHER AND SUPPORT THEM HERE IN COMPTON. 03:00:15.971 --> 03:00:18.073 AND LAST QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT 03:00:18.140 --> 03:00:21.043 HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS NEEDED 03:00:21.110 --> 03:00:24.747 FOR THAT PARTICULAR COURT PROGRAM? 03:00:25.347 --> 03:00:27.883 I DON'T, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU. 03:00:27.950 --> 03:00:29.685 SOUNDS GOOD. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. 03:00:29.752 --> 03:00:31.420 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 03:00:31.487 --> 03:00:33.322 THANK YOU. AND I DID WELL. 03:00:33.389 --> 03:00:34.723 THE NEXT PERSON'S COMING FORWARD. 03:00:34.790 --> 03:00:37.426 I DID FAIL TO SAY FOR THIS FOURTH PANEL YOU 03:00:37.493 --> 03:00:39.929 HAVE THE SAME HOMEWORK AS PANEL NUMBER THREE. 03:00:39.995 --> 03:00:42.565 SO WE NEED FOR YOU TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX 03:00:42.631 --> 03:00:44.800 IF YOU WERE TO HAVE MORE MONEY CONTINUING 03:00:44.867 --> 03:00:48.237 MONEY, HOW WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, 03:00:48.304 --> 03:00:51.840 MEET THE REPAIRS OF $4 BILLION IN ACCESS THAT 03:00:51.907 --> 03:00:53.876 YOU NEED AT THIS POINT? 03:00:54.109 --> 03:00:56.245 HOW WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MEET THAT AND WHAT 03:00:56.312 --> 03:00:57.313 DO YOU NEED FROM US? 03:00:57.546 --> 03:00:59.181 OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. 03:00:59.248 --> 03:01:00.249 HI, I'M LESLEY. HI. 03:01:00.516 --> 03:01:01.550 I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT 03:01:01.617 --> 03:01:03.586 CHILDREN'S LAW CENTER OF CALIFORNIA. 03:01:03.652 --> 03:01:05.554 AND AS JUDGE PRICE NOTED, WE DO STAFF. 03:01:05.621 --> 03:01:07.289 THE HOPE CAUGHT UP ON THE 12TH FLOOR 03:01:07.356 --> 03:01:08.357 OF THIS BUILDING. 03:01:08.424 --> 03:01:10.359 I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE DEPENDENCY 03:01:10.426 --> 03:01:11.360 COUNCIL COALITION. 03:01:11.427 --> 03:01:13.562 WE ARE THE COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS WHO 03:01:13.629 --> 03:01:15.864 REPRESENT EVERY PARENT AND CHILD INVOLVED IN 03:01:15.931 --> 03:01:18.367 THE CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM ACROSS CALIFORNIA. 03:01:18.567 --> 03:01:20.269 WE SUPPORT THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN 03:01:20.336 --> 03:01:22.204 BY THE LEGISLATURE TO INCREASE FUNDING 03:01:22.271 --> 03:01:24.006 FOR JUDGESHIPS AND FACILITIES. 03:01:24.206 --> 03:01:25.474 HOWEVER, SENATOR RICHARDSON, 03:01:25.541 --> 03:01:26.609 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. 03:01:26.675 --> 03:01:28.077 I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU WHAT WE NEED 03:01:28.143 --> 03:01:29.678 AND CAN FOLLOW UP AFTER THIS HEARING 03:01:29.745 --> 03:01:30.779 TO OFFER A SOLUTION. 03:01:31.347 --> 03:01:34.116 I WAS STRUCK BY YOUR OPENING COMMENTS IN THAT 03:01:34.183 --> 03:01:36.118 WHILE EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT ACCESS TO 03:01:36.185 --> 03:01:38.754 JUSTICE AND THE NEED FOR RESOURCES WAS SPOT ON, 03:01:38.821 --> 03:01:41.023 THERE WAS ONE MISSING PIECE THE ATTORNEYS 03:01:41.624 --> 03:01:43.659 SPECIFICALLY DEPENDENCY ATTORNEYS. 03:01:43.959 --> 03:01:45.894 AS I NOTED, SOME WHO WORK ON THE 12TH FLOOR 03:01:45.961 --> 03:01:47.663 OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH YOU VISITED 03:01:47.730 --> 03:01:49.531 LAST SPRING, WE ARE WOEFULLY UNDERFUNDED. 03:01:49.598 --> 03:01:51.100 AND IN MANY COUNTIES, INCLUDING LOS 03:01:51.166 --> 03:01:52.835 ANGELES, ON THE VERGE OF A CRISIS DUE 03:01:52.901 --> 03:01:55.137 TO UNPRECEDENTED ATTRITION AND A DEARTH 03:01:55.204 --> 03:01:56.939 OF UNQUALIFIED APPLICANTS, WILL 03:01:57.006 --> 03:01:59.408 A DEARTH OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS WILLING TO 03:01:59.475 --> 03:02:02.578 ACCEPT SUBSTANDARD COMPENSATION FOR SOME 03:02:02.645 --> 03:02:04.480 OF THE MOST CHALLENGING WORK AN ATTORNEY CAN 03:02:04.546 --> 03:02:05.481 UNDERTAKE? 03:02:05.547 --> 03:02:06.982 LIKE THE JUDGES YOU HEARD FROM THIS 03:02:07.049 --> 03:02:09.585 AFTERNOON, DEPENDENCY COUNSEL TYPICALLY EARN 03:02:09.652 --> 03:02:12.087 20 TO 30% LESS, EVEN MORE IF YOU INCLUDE 03:02:12.154 --> 03:02:14.623 BENEFITS THAN THE COUNTY COUNSEL WHO APPEAR IN 03:02:14.690 --> 03:02:16.692 THE SAME COURTROOMS ON THE SAME CASES. 03:02:16.759 --> 03:02:18.794 EVERYTHING SAID TODAY REGARDING JUDICIAL 03:02:18.861 --> 03:02:21.430 COMPENSATION APPLIES TO DEPENDENCY COUNSEL. 03:02:21.497 --> 03:02:23.232 THERE IS NO SYSTEM IN PLACE TO ENSURE 03:02:23.299 --> 03:02:24.566 FAIR COMPENSATION. 03:02:24.767 --> 03:02:26.769 THE SPORADIC INCREASES IN FUNDING WE HAVE 03:02:26.835 --> 03:02:29.104 SEEN OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN 03:02:29.171 --> 03:02:32.408 AT CLC FOR 34 YEARS, HAVE COME THROUGH 03:02:32.474 --> 03:02:33.809 LEGISLATIVE ACTION. 03:02:33.876 --> 03:02:35.210 ACCORDINGLY, IT IS CRITICALLY 03:02:35.277 --> 03:02:37.146 IMPORTANT THAT AS THIS COMMITTEE CONTINUES 03:02:37.212 --> 03:02:38.614 TO WORK TO ADDRESS THE FUNDING NEEDS 03:02:38.681 --> 03:02:41.650 RELATED TO FACILITIES AND JUDGESHIPS THAT 03:02:41.717 --> 03:02:43.719 YOU ALSO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE DEPENDENCY 03:02:43.786 --> 03:02:44.853 COUNCIL FUNDING. 03:02:44.920 --> 03:02:47.189 WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO MEET THE HIGH STANDARDS 03:02:47.256 --> 03:02:50.059 THE COURTS AND FAMILIES WHO REPRESENT DESERVE 03:02:50.125 --> 03:02:51.760 WITHOUT ADEQUATE RESOURCES. 03:02:52.528 --> 03:02:55.230 AND I WOULD ADD, I ANTICIPATE, HOPEFULLY, 03:02:55.297 --> 03:02:58.233 A QUESTION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE HOPE 03:02:58.300 --> 03:03:00.135 COURTS THROUGHOUT LA COUNTY, YOU WOULD NEED 03:03:00.202 --> 03:03:01.970 TO DOUBLE OUR FUNDING FOR US TO STAFF THOSE 03:03:02.037 --> 03:03:02.971 COURTS. 03:03:03.038 --> 03:03:05.407 IT COSTS US TWICE AS MUCH TO STAFF A COURT 03:03:05.474 --> 03:03:08.277 LIKE HOPE COURT AS IT DOES FOR US TO STAFF 03:03:08.344 --> 03:03:10.412 A TRADITIONAL DEPENDENCY COURTROOM, AND THAT 03:03:10.479 --> 03:03:12.147 IS NOT SUSTAINABLE AND NOT SOMETHING WE 03:03:12.214 --> 03:03:14.283 CAN DO UNDER THE CURRENT FUNDING STRUCTURE. 03:03:14.616 --> 03:03:17.886 THANK YOU. SO PLEASE PROVIDE TO THE COMMITTEE 03:03:18.420 --> 03:03:20.823 ANY DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WE CAN REVIEW 03:03:20.889 --> 03:03:22.358 AND HOPEFULLY BE HELPFUL. 03:03:22.424 --> 03:03:23.525 THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 03:03:24.827 --> 03:03:26.662 YES, MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON. 03:03:26.729 --> 03:03:29.231 I'M JUDGE NICOLE BEACHAM FROM LOS ANGELES. 03:03:29.298 --> 03:03:31.266 AND AS OF SATURDAY, I'LL BE THE PRESIDENT 03:03:31.333 --> 03:03:33.035 OF THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES ASSOCIATION. 03:03:33.102 --> 03:03:35.437 AND I JUST WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU SO MUCH. 03:03:35.504 --> 03:03:36.905 AND I DON'T THINK WHAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS. 03:03:36.972 --> 03:03:39.007 THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'VE 03:03:39.074 --> 03:03:41.910 ASKED ABOUT JUDGES AND BUILDINGS 03:03:41.977 --> 03:03:45.013 AND SALARIES, YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN SO KIND WITH 03:03:45.080 --> 03:03:47.216 YOUR TIME AND YOUR RESOURCES, AND YOU'VE 03:03:47.282 --> 03:03:50.152 TALKED TO US OFFLINE AT YOUR OFFICES AND SAID TO 03:03:50.219 --> 03:03:51.587 US, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? 03:03:51.653 --> 03:03:53.856 AND TODAY, YOU MADE IT RESOUNDINGLY CLEAR 03:03:53.922 --> 03:03:55.591 THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING US, AND WE 03:03:55.657 --> 03:03:56.592 SO APPRECIATE IT. 03:03:56.658 --> 03:03:59.094 AND ON BEHALF OF THE 2200 MEMBERS OF OUR 03:03:59.161 --> 03:04:02.998 ORGANIZATION JUDGES, COMMISSIONERS, JUSTICES, 03:04:03.399 --> 03:04:06.268 TRIBAL JUDGES, ALJS, WE WANT TO THANK YOU. 03:04:06.335 --> 03:04:07.469 AND I JUST WANT TO BRAG A LITTLE. 03:04:07.536 --> 03:04:09.738 YOU GOT TO SEE WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSITY IN 03:04:09.805 --> 03:04:12.441 JUDICIAL EXCELLENCE, AND IT'S REPRESENTED IN 03:04:12.508 --> 03:04:13.442 IN THIS ROOM. 03:04:13.509 --> 03:04:15.177 YOU'VE HEARD FROM OUR INCREDIBLE VICE 03:04:15.244 --> 03:04:17.346 PRESIDENTS, JUDGES VALLEJO AND WALTON, 03:04:17.413 --> 03:04:18.614 AND YOU HEARD FROM JUDGE TAPIA. 03:04:18.680 --> 03:04:21.717 AND WE HAVE OUR INCOMING PRESIDING JUDGE, JUDGE 03:04:21.784 --> 03:04:24.386 RICK OCAMPO, AND JUDGE AS ASSISTANT PRESIDING 03:04:24.453 --> 03:04:25.587 JUDGE, JUDGE VERASTEGUI. 03:04:25.654 --> 03:04:29.158 THERE'S ALSO JUDGE JACKSON FROM RIVERSIDE 03:04:29.224 --> 03:04:30.225 AND JUDGE PUENTE. 03:04:30.459 --> 03:04:32.060 I'M GOING TO CALL HER OUT BECAUSE I SAW HER 03:04:32.127 --> 03:04:33.061 AND JUDGE BRODY. 03:04:33.128 --> 03:04:35.063 THESE ARE OUR MEMBERS, AND THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. 03:04:35.130 --> 03:04:36.665 AND THEY WORK HARD EVERY DAY. 03:04:36.932 --> 03:04:39.268 AND THEY REPRESENT THE BROAD DIVERSITY 03:04:39.334 --> 03:04:40.969 OF OUR JUDICIARY AND THE COMMUNITIES 03:04:41.036 --> 03:04:41.970 THEY SERVE. 03:04:42.037 --> 03:04:43.572 SO ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, I JUST WANT TO 03:04:43.639 --> 03:04:45.207 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT. 03:04:45.274 --> 03:04:47.242 WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND WE 03:04:47.309 --> 03:04:48.811 LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO COME UP 03:04:48.877 --> 03:04:49.812 WITH SOME SOLUTIONS. 03:04:49.878 --> 03:04:51.246 SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 03:04:51.313 --> 03:04:52.314 THANK YOU. 03:04:53.849 --> 03:04:55.884 UM, SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. 03:04:57.486 --> 03:05:01.457 OKAY. UM, WITH THAT, IT, UM, WE'RE 03:05:01.523 --> 03:05:04.493 ACTUALLY AT 408, WHICH WAS ISN'T BAD. 03:05:04.793 --> 03:05:06.728 UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO 03:05:06.795 --> 03:05:08.297 ARE GOING TO GET ON A FREEWAY AND IT MAY 03:05:08.363 --> 03:05:11.166 TAKE YOU TWO HOURS TO GET HOME, BUT AS 03:05:11.233 --> 03:05:12.968 YOU'RE SITTING THERE, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL 03:05:13.035 --> 03:05:17.105 FEEL, UM, A LITTLE MORE COMFORT IN THAT WE'RE 03:05:17.172 --> 03:05:19.374 COMMITTED TO BEING HELPFUL AND THE EXTRA 03:05:19.441 --> 03:05:22.144 HOURS OF YOU GETTING HOME WILL BE PAID BACK 03:05:22.211 --> 03:05:23.145 IN DIVIDENDS. 03:05:23.212 --> 03:05:24.580 AND HOPEFULLY THE RESULTS THAT 03:05:24.646 --> 03:05:26.682 YOU'LL SEE, HAVING HEARD FROM ALL MEMBERS 03:05:26.748 --> 03:05:27.683 OF THE PUBLIC. 03:05:27.749 --> 03:05:31.887 AND, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? 03:05:32.087 --> 03:05:33.822 SENATOR, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PANELISTS. 03:05:33.889 --> 03:05:35.691 THIS HAS BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE. 03:05:36.225 --> 03:05:39.628 UM, I WANT TO THANK OUR CHAIR WHO HAS 03:05:39.695 --> 03:05:41.296 AND I'VE SAID THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, 03:05:41.363 --> 03:05:44.867 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'VE SEEN HER AT WORK. 03:05:44.933 --> 03:05:46.134 I'M NOT ON HER SUBCOMMITTEE. 03:05:46.201 --> 03:05:49.371 I CHAIR ANOTHER ONE, BUT SHE HAS BEEN CLEAR 03:05:49.438 --> 03:05:51.440 ABOUT WHAT SHE WANTS. 03:05:51.773 --> 03:05:53.475 AND IT ISN'T JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT 03:05:53.542 --> 03:05:54.476 WE HAVE TO DO. 03:05:54.543 --> 03:05:57.079 SHE'S SAYING THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO DO IT. 03:05:57.346 --> 03:05:59.281 AND THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. 03:05:59.348 --> 03:06:00.849 AND I WANT TO THANK HER. 03:06:01.049 --> 03:06:02.217 I WANT TO THANK THE PANELISTS 03:06:02.284 --> 03:06:03.218 AND TO THE PUBLIC. 03:06:03.285 --> 03:06:05.587 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR BEING HERE. 03:06:05.954 --> 03:06:07.389 THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC 03:06:07.456 --> 03:06:09.691 AND HAVING YOU ALL HERE ALSO MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 03:06:09.758 --> 03:06:10.759 SO THANK YOU ALL. 03:06:12.094 --> 03:06:14.863 AND THAT LEADS TO WHAT NORA HERE WONDERFULLY 03:06:14.930 --> 03:06:17.599 HAS PREPARED FOR ME TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL. 03:06:17.799 --> 03:06:19.902 I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR 03:06:19.968 --> 03:06:22.571 SERGEANTS WHO CAME DOWN FROM SACRAMENTO. 03:06:22.638 --> 03:06:24.106 HAVE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB. 03:06:24.506 --> 03:06:27.342 UH, NORA AND THE ENTIRE BUDGET TEAM. 03:06:27.409 --> 03:06:30.178 UM, AND PEOPLE WE HAVE RECORDING, UM, 03:06:30.245 --> 03:06:32.381 OUR SENATE DEMS WHO ARE MAKING SURE THAT 03:06:32.447 --> 03:06:33.582 THIS IS COMING LIVE. 03:06:33.649 --> 03:06:36.718 SO MY 88 YEAR OLD MOTHER CAN BE WATCHING 03:06:36.785 --> 03:06:40.322 AND SEEING THAT I'M I'M DOING MY JOB. 03:06:40.389 --> 03:06:43.525 AND TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED, STAFF WHO 03:06:43.592 --> 03:06:46.828 HELPED PREPARE COMMENTS, ANSWERING QUESTIONS, 03:06:46.895 --> 03:06:49.865 I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'M SURE SENATOR REYES 03:06:49.932 --> 03:06:52.401 AND I WERE GOING TO BE ASKING MORE QUESTIONS 03:06:52.601 --> 03:06:56.538 LEADING FROM NOW UNTIL, UM, DECEMBER 7TH, WHICH 03:06:56.605 --> 03:06:57.873 IS OUR FIRST DAY BACK. 03:06:58.173 --> 03:07:00.809 AND THEN UM, THEREAFTER, I'M SURE WE 03:07:00.876 --> 03:07:04.446 WILL RECONVENE PROBABLY ANOTHER GROUP TO NOW 03:07:04.513 --> 03:07:07.049 TAKE WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TO ACTUALLY PUT 03:07:07.115 --> 03:07:09.985 TOGETHER SOME POTENTIAL LEGISLATION THAT CAN 03:07:10.052 --> 03:07:10.986 BE ADDRESSED. 03:07:11.053 --> 03:07:13.722 AND WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT WHAT I SAW 03:07:13.789 --> 03:07:16.224 IN THE PAST, ONE OF THE REPORTS I HAD, YOU 03:07:16.291 --> 03:07:18.360 COULD TELL IT HAD BEEN TYPED ON A TYPEWRITER. 03:07:18.427 --> 03:07:19.695 THAT'S HOW OLD IT WAS. 03:07:20.095 --> 03:07:22.164 IT WAS A LUCKIER SOMEBODY REPORT 03:07:22.230 --> 03:07:24.066 BACK IN 1997. 03:07:24.366 --> 03:07:28.136 AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED 03:07:28.203 --> 03:07:31.406 TO FORMING SOME OF THOSE SAME COMMITTEES, UM, TO 03:07:31.473 --> 03:07:34.876 MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE YOUR BUY IN THAT WHAT WE 03:07:34.943 --> 03:07:37.412 BRING FORWARD IN TERMS OF LEGISLATION IS GOING 03:07:37.479 --> 03:07:39.348 TO FIX THESE ISSUES. 03:07:39.414 --> 03:07:41.249 AND SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU TO ALL 03:07:41.316 --> 03:07:43.719 THE INDIVIDUALS WHO PARTICIPATED IN PUBLIC 03:07:43.785 --> 03:07:44.987 TESTIMONY TODAY. 03:07:45.320 --> 03:07:47.856 IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY, PLEASE 03:07:47.923 --> 03:07:50.926 SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING 03:07:50.993 --> 03:07:53.495 TO THE BUDGET AND FISCAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OR 03:07:53.562 --> 03:07:54.830 VISIT OUR WEBSITE. 03:07:54.896 --> 03:07:56.531 YOUR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE 03:07:56.598 --> 03:07:58.667 IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE 03:07:58.734 --> 03:08:00.669 YOUR TESTIMONY IN THE OFFICIAL HEARING 03:08:00.736 --> 03:08:01.670 RECORDS. 03:08:01.737 --> 03:08:03.438 THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE LOS ANGELES 03:08:03.505 --> 03:08:05.774 SUPERIOR COURT FOR HOSTING US TODAY. 03:08:06.108 --> 03:08:07.643 AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE PANELISTS FOR 03:08:07.709 --> 03:08:09.778 YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS HEARING. 03:08:09.845 --> 03:08:12.080 WE HAVE CONCLUDED TODAY'S AGENDA 03:08:12.147 --> 03:08:14.249 AND THE SENATE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE, NUMBER 03:08:14.316 --> 03:08:16.485 FIVE ON CORRECTIONS, PUBLIC SAFETY, 03:08:16.551 --> 03:08:19.254 JUDICIARY, LABOR AND TRANSPORTATION IS 03:08:19.321 --> 03:08:21.523 NOW ADJOURNED. THANK.