BEAUTIFUL INTEREST OF TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. WE HAVE TWO BILLS.
THIS AFTERNOON AND SENATE ENERGY
AND UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
WE HAVE A BETTER BILL. SB 4 20.
AND WE HAVE A BRADFORD BILL. SB
4 TO 9. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME
I WILL PRESENT 4 TO 9. AND I
WILL HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO VICE
CHAIR DOLLY AND WILL BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. IS THAT OKAY WITH
EVERYBODY? I GET A CALL AND
STUFF AND ALL THAT. YEAH. I'LL
DO IT. YEAH. MM HMM. THE SENATE
CAN AND THIS IS A BUDGET THAT'S
JUST THE WRONG IT'S JUST.
HOLDING HIS HAND COMMITTEE ON
ENERGY, UTILITIES AND
COMMUNICATIONS WILL BEGIN IN 30
SECONDS.
SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY,
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
WILL COME TO ORDER GOOD EVENING.
THE SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME
THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENTS AT TODAY'S
HEARING. THE PARTICIPANT NUMBER
IS 8772. THAT'S 8772. AND ACCESS
CODE IS 73. 6 TO 832. THAT'S 736
TO 832. WE'RE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE IN THE OLD STREET
BUILDING SO I WOULD ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE
THEMSELVES AVAILABLE IN ROOM
1200 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM AND BEGAN OUR HEARING
STATE. IT WILL START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. WE HAVE TWO BILLS
ON TODAY'S AGENDA. AND WE WILL
START WITH OUR FIRST BILL. NOW
HAND TO GAVEL OVER TO SENATOR
DALLI. SO OKAY. WE HAVE SPEAK
FOR 29. BRADFORD, YOU MAY
PRESENT OKAY?
I GUESS IT IS. ALRIGHT SP 49
WILL MODERNIZE THE CURRENT
VEHICLE INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS
FOR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANY DRIVERS BY AUTHORIZING
THEM TO UTILIZE THE REMOTE OR
VIRTUAL VEHICLE INSPECTION.
VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS ARE ALREADY
BEING PERFORMED AT CALTRANS AND
OVER 2000 TNCS DRIVERS HAVE
SUBMITTED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS
BILL. THIS BILL WILL WORK MAKE
WORK OPPORTUNITIES MORE
ACCESSIBLE TO DRIVERS AND ENSURE
THAT DRIVERS ARE COMPENSATED.
FOR THE TIME IT TAKES TO
COMPLETE THE INSPECTION,
TESTIFYING TODAY AND SUPPORT IS
DYLAN HOFFMAN, REPRESENTING
TECHNET. AND I THANK YOU AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I VOTE.
THANK YOU. YOU GOT A COUPLE OF
MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR,
AND SENATORS DYLAN HOFFMAN ON
BEHALF OF TECHNET. TYPICALLY ONE
OF OUR RIGHTS HERE PLATFORMS
DRIVERS WOULD BE TESTIFYING AS
THEY HAVE DONE SO THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS, BUT DUE TO THE TIME AND
I'M HERE ON THEIR BEHALF, I'LL
JUST ALSO NOTE THAT OVER 3000 OF
OUR DRIVERS HAVE SIGNED ON A
LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
TECHNET AND REMEMBERS ARE PROUD
TO STAND ALONGSIDE THEM IN
SUPPORT OF SB 4 29. WHICH WILL
ALLOW RIDESHARE DRIVERS TO
COMPLETE THE REQUIRED VEHICLE
INSPECTIONS REMOTELY OR
VIRTUALLY AND COMPENSATE THEM
FOR THE TIME SPENT COMPLETING
THOSE INSPECTIONS. OVER HALF OF
DRIVERS MUST DRIVE MORE THAN 35
MILES FOR AN INSPECTION
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING
DRIVERS IN RURAL AREAS AND
CONTRIBUTING THE AVERAGE LAST
EARNINGS OF $181 PER DRIVER. AS
BEFORE. 29 WILL UPHOLD THE SAME
SAFETY STANDARDS IN PLACE TODAY
, WHILE EASINESS SIGNIFICANT
BURDEN FACED BY TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIANS THAT
CHOOSE THIS WORK BY MODERNIZING
THE REQUIREMENT TO PERMIT A
VIRTUAL CONVENIENCE OPTION. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. SET YOUR ONLY
WITNESS YEAR. THAT'S RIGHT.
PRIMARY PRIMARY WITNESS, OKAY?
WE WILL GO TO, UH, OPPOSITION.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? MR
CHAIR MEMBERS. SARAH FLOCKS,
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION, AND
WE ARE HERE IN REGRETFUL
OPPOSITION REGRETFUL BECAUSE WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THE INTENT OF
THE AUTHOR AND THE INTENT OF HIS
BILL IS REALLY TO EASE THE
BURDEN ON RIDESHARE DRIVERS. HE
TRULY IS TAKING A REQUIREMENT
THAT THE PUC ALREADY HAS IN
PLACE. FOR SAFETY INSPECTIONS,
AND HE'S MAKING IT EASIER FOR
DRIVERS TO DO BY ALLOWING THE
REMOTE INSPECTION PROCESS AND WE
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. AND
IN A DIFFERENT WORLD WHERE WE
DIDN'T HAVE PROPOSITION, 22 AND
THE UNLAWFUL MISCLASSIFICATION
OF TNC DRIVERS, THIS WOULD BE A
GREAT BILL EXCEPT THAT UNDER
PROP 22. THE TNC COMPANIES
AREN'T REQUIRED TO REIMBURSE
DRIVERS FOR THE COST OF THIS
VEHICLE INSPECTIONS THEY WERE
NOT REQUIRED TO COMPENSATE
DRIVERS FOR THE TIME THAT IT
TOOK TO DO THE VEHICLE
INSPECTION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT THE AUTHOR TOOK AMENDMENTS
TO FOR THE COMPENSATION OF
DRIVERS, BUT WE DO HAVE TO
OPPOSE BECAUSE DRIVERS ARE STILL
ON THE HOOK TO PAY FOR THE
VEHICLE INSPECTIONS. THAT
THEY'RE THE SO CALLED EMPLOYERS
. THE TNCS ARE NOT PROVIDING
THAT CAN BE $40 FOR EACH
INSPECTION ANNUALLY OR EVERY I
BELIEVE IT'S 50,000 MILES. AND
SO WE WOULD HOPE IN THE FUTURE
THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED. UM
AND DRIVERS WILL BE REIMBURSED
BY THEIR EMPLOYERS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SO THOSE ARE TWO
PRIMARY WITNESSES. ANYBODY ELSE
WANT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OR
SUPPORT, PLEASE? COME TO THE
PODIUM HERE IN ROOM 1200. SEEING
NONE. WE CAN GO TO THE CALL IN
LINES. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING
TO CALL IN AND SPEAK MODERATOR?
WOULD YOU PLEASE QUEUE UP?
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF SB 4
29. THANK THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO
PRESS SWINDON ZERO LABOR AGAINST
IT. STUPID. MR CHAIR. THERE IS
NO NEW SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. AWESOME OKAY, WE'LL BRING
IT BACK TO THE DIESS. ANY
MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ON THE BILL? SEEING
NONE. WE WILL, UH PUT THAT BILL
ON CALL UNTIL WE GET A CORM AND
TAKE A VOTE ON IT. MR. BRADFORD,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. THIS IS
STRAIGHTFORWARD MEASURE AND JUST
MAKE SURE THAT THESE VEHICLES
ARE INSPECTED ON A ROUTINE BASIS
COMPENSATION TO DRIVERS FOR
THEIR TIME BECAUSE WE KNOW TIME
IS MONEY. MOST OF THESE DRIVERS
HAVE AN AVERAGE OF TWO HOUR WAIT
IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE VEHICLE
INSPECTIONS. UH DONE AND THEY
LOSE ON THE AVERAGE OF $181. PER
DRIVER WHEN THEY DO THIS, SO
THIS IS THE WAY OF JUST MAKING
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE AND
AGAIN. CALTRANS IS DOING IT WITH
THE MAJORITY OF THEIR VEHICLES
ALREADY, SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR I VOTE. THANK YOU. WE WILL,
UH IT SAYS. WE GET A CALL AND WE
WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT BILL.
CONSULTANT. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. FOR A QUORUM. THIS IS FOR
A QUORUM. BRADFORD BRADFORD HERE
DAILY. AND HERE WE HEAR ASHBY
ASHBY HERE, BECKER. CAFIERO
DODD. HERE. DURAZO HERE. EGGMAN.
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ HERE, GROVE
MCGUIRE. MEN MEN HERE. NEWMAN
NEWMAN HERE, RUBIO. SEE OUR TOE
HERE. CR TOE HERE, SKINNER.
SCANNER HAIR, STERN WILK. THE
QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO VICE
CHAIR, DOLLY. OKAY I'D LIKE TO
ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON SP 4 29
HAVE EMOTION WITH THE CLERK,
PLEASE. CLERK WE DID IT ALREADY.
YOU WERE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SB 4 29 BRADFORD THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN BRADFORD BRADFORD. I DALLI
DALLI. AYE ASHBY ASHBY. I BECKER
BECKER I CAFIERO DODD. HI DOT I
DURAZO. EGGMAN EGGMAN I GONZALES
. OKAY? GROVE. MCGUIRE MEN.
NEWMAN AND I RUBIO. RUBIO. I SEE
ARTO. CR TÔI SCANNER. STERN.
WILK. 90. WE NEED ONE MORE. 90
WILL LEAVE THAT BELONG CALL. ALL
RIGHT. NEXT UP IS SENATOR BECKER
. HE HAS SP 4 20. UNHAPPY.
SESSION. WHEN YOU'RE READY, YOU
MAY BEGIN. GEOGRAPHIC REMEMBERS
OPPORTUNITY PRESENT THE SECOND
VERSION OF SP 4 20. AS YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE VERY AMBITIOUS GOALS TO
MEET AND PRIOR TO 1994 THE
CONSTRUCTION OF PROJECTS BELOW
200 KILOVOLTS DID NOT REQUIRE
UTILITIES TO OBTAIN A PERMIT THE
ORDER LOWER THE THRESHOLD OF 50
KILOVOLTS, AND THAT'S RESULTED
IN SUBSTANTIAL DELAYS FOR
PROJECTS SUCH AS DISTRIBUTION
SUBSTATIONS. THAT ARE NEEDED TO
EXPAND THE GRID. AND ACCOMMODATE
MORE DEMAND FOR ELECTRIFICATION.
SB 4 20 CREATES A CONSISTENT
FAST TRACKED APPROVALS FOR LOW
IMPACT UPGRADES AND NEW SMALL
TRANSMISSION LINES UNDER 138
KILOVOLTS. THERE NEEDED TO
CONNECT NEW RENEWABLE GENERATION
AND ENERGIZED CUSTOMERS BY
REVERTING THIS EXISTING
EXEMPTION THRESHOLD. THIS WOULD
TREAT SUB TRANSMISSION
INFRASTRUCTURE, SIMILAR
DISTRIBUTION INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
THE PURPOSES OF PERMITTING
APPROVALS. ALL THESE PROJECTS
WILL BE SUBJECT TO ALL OTHER
PERMITS, INCLUDING THOSE OF
OTHER STATE AGENCIES THAT
ENFORCE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTIONS. UM WITH THAT, UM,
DO YOU WANT TO SAY THIS WILL
REDUCE UNNECESSARY MINISTER
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS TO BE
CONSISTENT FOR SMALLER SUB
TRANSMISSION LINES AND
RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR I VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND SUPPORT UM
, NO, NOT TODAY. ARE THERE
ANYONE IN THE INDIVIDUALS HERE
IN ROOM 1200 WHO ARE SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT? YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME
IN YOUR ORGANIZATION, PLEASE?
ADAM SMITH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON STRONG SUPPORT. BRANDON,
REEBOK PACIFIC GAS ELECTRIC
STRONG SUPPORT. OH BEN FRANKLIN
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION,
TRANSPORTATION, COALITION, AND
SUPPORT. MELISSA CORTEZ, ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA WIND
ENERGY ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
SEAN MCDONNELL ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY CHOICE
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND SUPPORTED 1200?
NOW LET'S MOVE OPPOSITION OR
THEIR WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
HERE IN ROOM 1200. SHE NONE.
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO TESTIFY
EITHER IN SUPPORT. OR AN
OPPOSITION OF SP 4 20. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO THIS TIME
PRESS ONE AND ZERO. AND WE'RE
GONNA GO TO LINE 10. YOUR LINE
IS NOW OPEN. PARDON ME. LINE
TENURE LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
EVENING, MR TURN MEMBER SYLVIA
SALAS SHOW ON BEHALF OF ADVANCED
ENERGY UNITED IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. BLESS YOU. MR CHAIR. THERE
IS NO ONE ELSE IN KILL. OKAY IF
THERE'S NO OTHER CALLERS ONLINE
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO BE 4 20 SENATORS, SEE
ARTO THANK YOU. AND SO IN THIS
PARTICULAR WE'RE DOING THE
SMALLER TRANSMISSION LINES AND
YOU KNOW THERE'S OPTIONS OF
EITHER GOING ABOVE GROUND OR
BELOW GROUND AND SEQUEL WHEN
YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS AND GOING
THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT GETS
EVALUATED. UM, DOES THIS IN ANY
WAY KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING
BECAUSE RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT ONE
OF THEM IS FASTER AND CHEAPER,
AND ONE OF THEM IS SLOWER AND
MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT SAFER AND
SO, AND THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL
DIFFERENCES IN IN EACH OF THEM.
AND HOW DOES THAT GET EVALUATED
IN THIS PROCESS? IF THIS BILL
PASSES YEAH, I'LL SEE IF ANY, WE
HAVE SOME FOLKS I KNOW WHO HAVE
SOME EXPERTISE IN THE AUDIENCE
OF WHO MAY WANT TO JOIN IN PEER,
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
THIS DOES NOT STOP THOSE KIND OF
REVIEWS FROM HAPPENING. THERE'S
A LONGER PART. I DID NOT READ
THAT SAYS. IN ADDITION, WHEN I
MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS SUBJECT
TO ALL THE PERMITS UM, INCLUDING
THOSE WITH STATE AGENCIES THAT
ENFORCE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTIONS. AND SO I BELIEVE
THAT THAT ANALYSIS WOULD STILL
BE INCLUDED IN, UM IN THE
PROCESS. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
SENATOR DAHLE. I JUST LIKE TO
SAY I BUILT POWER LINES A LONG
TIME AGO. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
A 50 KV AND 75 KV MOST PEOPLE
WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE TO MOVE THE BILL.
THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS
THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ARE
CONCERNED BY MEMBERS WHERE
EMOTION DO PASS THE SENATE
FLOOR. CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON SP 4 20. THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN BRADFORD ARE REALLY HIGH.
ASHBY FBI. BECKER BECKER. I
CABALLERO DODD DOT I DRAW AZO
HØI EGGMAN EGGMAN I GONZALES
GONZALES I GROVE MCGUIRE MEN,
MEN I. NEWMAN NEWMAN, I, RUBIO
RUBIO. I SEE ARTO ARTO. AYE
SKINNER. SKIN OR EYE STERN. WILK
WILK? AYE. 14 14. THAT MEASURE
HAS 14 VOTES. IT'S OUT.
CONGRATULATIONS. MEMBERS. WE'RE
GONNA OPEN THE ROLL ON SB 4 29.
PLEASE MAKE PLEASE CALL ROLL.
SORRY. EXPORT. BULLETS. OH,
THANK GOD. GONZALES GROVE.
MCGUIRE MEN, MEN I. SKINNER.
STERN. WILK WILK. I WRITE 11 TO
0 FOR ALL THE MEMBERS TO WANT TO
CAST A VOTE. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE
GOING TO LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
WHAT? ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES FOR
ABSOLUTE MEMBERSHIP COMING OUT
ON HERE IN 1200, SO WE ENCOURAGE
THEM TO COME NOW. BUT FOR THE
MEMBERS WHO HAVE CAST THEIR
VOTES WERE YOU'RE FREE TO GO.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES. THANK
YOU.
IT'S OUT.
IN THE MEANTIME, I JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO PARTICIPATED IN
THE DAYS PUBLIC TESTIMONY TODAY.
IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY
TODAY, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR
COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS IN
WRITING TO THE BUT THIS IS
AGAIN. THIS IS WRONG TO THE
SENATE ENERGY AND UTILITY
COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE
OR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE
IMPORTANT TO US AND WE WANT TO
INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY AND
OFFICIAL RECORDS. AND WE WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION
TODAY.
ALRIGHT CONSULTANT. YOU CAN OPEN
THE ROLL ON SB 4 20. THE CURRENT
VOTE IS 14 CORRECT, CALLED
ABSENT MEMBERS. UM STERN. I.
BILL IS OUT 14 15. ZERO WE CAN
OPEN THE ROAD NOW AND SP 4 TO 9
. THE CURRENT VOTE IS 11. I AM
ABSTAINING ON THAT ONE. STERN.
NOT BOOTS. NOT VOTING. 11 VOTERS
OUT 11 0. THANK YOU VERY ONE FOR
YOUR PARTICIPATION TODAY THAT
CONCLUDES OUR HEARING, THE
SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS IS
NOW ADJOURNED