GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. HAPPY
MONDAY. THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
ELECTIONS AND CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS WILL COME TO ORDER
THE SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME
THE PUBLIC. IN PERSON AND ALSO
VR TELECONFERENCE SERVICE. FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 877. 2 TO
6. 8216. AND THE ACCESS CODE IS
5700. WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT
PHONE TESTIMONY. 2 15 MINUTES
TOTAL FOR EACH MEASURE THAT
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TODAY. IF
YOU IF YOU DO NOT GET A CHANCE
TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE OVER
THE TELECONFERENCE SYSTEM, WE
ASK YOU TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS
OF THE COMMITTEE SO IT CAN
BECOME PART OF THE OFFICIAL
RECORD. AND FOR MORE INFORMATION
ON HOW TO SUBMIT WRITTEN
COMMENTS. PLEASE VISIT THE
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. IT'S UH.
OFFICIALS SENATE COMMITTEE
WEBSITE. WE'RE HOLDING OUR
HEARING IN THE O STREET BUILDING
. ASK ALL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE TO BE PRESIDENT ROOM
2100 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. AND BEGIN OUR HEARING.
THERE IS ANOTHER COMMITTEE
SENATE COMMITTEE MEETING AT THIS
EXACT SAME TIME. SO UH, WITH
MEMBERSHIPS ON BOTH BOTH
COMMITTEES, SO I RECOGNIZED THAT
SOME MEMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO BE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM. BUT I KNOW THAT THEIR
STAFFS ARE WATCHING ALL OF THAT.
PROCEEDINGS THIS MORNING. WE
HAVE THREE MEASURES IN OUR
AGENDA TODAY. A C A 13 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARD, A SEE A
ONE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
AGUIAR-CURRY AND A C A SIX BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HANEY. WE DON'T
CURRENTLY HAVE A QUORUM, SO
WE'LL MEET AS A COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE. AND WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN
WITH OUR FIRST MEASURE 13 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARD. HMM.
WELCOME THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
SENATORS. FIRST. I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
STAFF ARE WORKING WITH ME TO
CREATE CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS
THAT UNDERSCORE THAT A C 13 DOES
NOT REVERSE OR INVALIDITY
PROVISION OF THE CONSTITUTION,
INCLUDING PROPOSITION 13
CURRENTLY IN EFFECT, AND
REINFORCES THAT IF APPROVED BY
THE VOTERS, THIS WOULD APPLY TO
FUTURE MEASURES IN 2024 AND
BEYOND. ALL CONVERSATIONS TODAY
HAVE REFLECTED SOME OF THESE
INHERENT FACTS BUT OUT OF AN
ABUNDANCE OF CLARITY. I'M HAPPY
TO ACCEPT THOSE AMENDMENTS
TODAY. SO A C 13 IS A MEASURE
THAT ASKED ONE SIMPLE QUESTION
IF A MEASURE IS PROPOSED TO
RAISE A VOTE THRESHOLD TO
GREATER THAN A MAJORITY,
SHOULDN'T THE SAME PROPORTION OF
VOTERS BEING AGREEMENT?
CURRENTLY UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW,
ANY BALLOT MEASURE APPROVED BY A
MAJORITY OF VOTERS COULD
SELECTIVELY REQUIRE A FUTURE
MEASURE TO PASS WITH A
SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. IS HE 13
THAT PROTECT AND ROUTINE. THE
MAJORITY VOTE ACT WOULD RETAIN
THE MAJORITY VOTE REQUIREMENT
FOR PASSAGE OF STATE AND LOCAL
INITIATIVES BY REQUIRING ANY
STATEWIDE INITIATIVE SEEKING TO
INCREASE THE THRESHOLD TO ALSO
BE APPROVED BY THE SAME HIRED
THRESHOLD THAT IT IS PROPOSING.
WITH A PATTERN OF ABUSE OF OUR
INITIATIVE PROCESS TO USE A
COMPARATIVELY LOWER THRESHOLD TO
SET A HIGHER THRESHOLD FOR
FUTURE VOTERS AND WORSE, USING
THIS TACTIC TO EXTRACT
LEGISLATIVE ACTION FOR SPECIAL
INTERESTS. THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR
THE LEGISLATURE TO REFLECT THE
PROTECTION AFFORDED IN THE
OREGON CONSTITUTION SINCE 1998
AND ADOPT A C 13 TO SEND TO THE
VOTERS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
THE SUCCESS OF THESE TACTICS
MEANS THAT IN FUTURE ELECTIONS,
QUESTIONS ARE DECIDED THROUGH A
VETO PATTERN OF A MINORITY NOT
WILL OF THE MAJORITY AND THIS IS
INHERENTLY UNDEMOCRATIC. THIS
MEASURE HAS BEEN CHARACTERIZED
AS IMMINENTLY SENSIBLE AND IT IS
VERY BASIC IF A MEASURE IS
PROPOSED TO RAISE A VOTE
THRESHOLD TO GREATER THAN A
MAJORITY, SHOULDN'T THE SAME
LEVEL OF SUPPORT BE SHOWN BY
VOTERS. WE OFTEN SEE THIS ISSUE
HERE WITH REVENUE QUESTIONS AND
MAKE NO MISTAKE, RAISING THE REV
. VOTER THRESHOLD FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS WITHOUT THE SAME
LEVEL OF SUPPORT OF VOTERS
JEOPARDIZES THEIR ABILITY TO
DELIVER ESSENTIAL SERVICES,
INCLUDING THE FUNDING FOR
SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SAFETY,
HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING AND
MORE BUT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A
REVENUE QUESTION. OHIO ISSUE ONE
ATTEMPTED TO RAISE THRESHOLDS TO
THWART A QUESTION ON
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS SUPER SUPER
MAJORITY VOTES FOR LOCAL HOUSING
POLICIES, OR CITING SHELTERS FOR
HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN
FLOATED. BUT REALLY ANY SUBJECT
COULD COME OUT. SO THIS MEASURE
WILL PROTECT AND ROUTINE THE
MAJORITY VOTE FOR THESE
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. ULTIMATELY
A C A 13 SENDS THE QUESTION TO
THE VOTERS FOR THEM TO DECIDE,
AND I TRUST THE VOTERS IN
WEIGHING THESE ISSUES AND MAKING
THEIR DECISION. IT ALSO PROVIDES
CLARITY FOR THE RIGHTS OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO SUBMIT AN
ADVISORY VOTE TO THE VOTERS
SUBJECT TO MAJORITY BROUGHT TO
PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON SOME OF
THEIR PRIORITIES AS THEY SEE
FIT. NOW I'D LIKE TO PRESENT
WITNESSES AND SUPPORTING MY BILL
CAROLINE COLEMAN FROM THE LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND ANY
FROM THE CALIFORNIA TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE ON 13. THANK
YOU WITH SO MANY MEMBER AND LET
ME MENTION TO ALL THOSE HERE ON
THIS BILL AND OTHERS THAT
COMMITTEE PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO
HAVE TWO MINUTES TESTIMONY FOR
TWO WITNESSES ON EACH SIDE. SO
WITH THAT UH, QUITE A WELCOME,
MISS COLEMAN TO, UH TO THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN AND TWO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CAROLINE
COLEMAN AND I'M, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE LEGAL CALIFORNIA
CITIES. I'M PROUD THAT MY
ORGANIZATION IS HERE IN SUPPORT
OF A 13. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
A C 13 IS SIMPLY ABOUT FAIRNESS
. IT WOULD REQUIRE ANY
INITIATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT TO CONFORM WITH ANY
INCREASED VOTER THRESHOLD. THAT
IT SEEKS TO IMPOSE ON FUTURE
MEASURES. A C 13 ALSO
IMPORTANTLY, WOULD PRESERVE THE
RIGHT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
PLACE ADVISORY QUESTIONS ON THE
BALLOT SO THAT THEY CAN SEEK
THEIR VOTERS OPINIONS ON ISSUES.
UNDER CURRENT LAW. A SIMPLE
MAJORITY MAY VOTE TO REQUIRE
SUPERMAJORITY APPROVAL OF FUTURE
MEASURES, EVEN WITHOUT A
CORRESPONDING LEVEL OF SUPPORT
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SUPER
MAJORITY VOTER APPROVAL HAS MADE
IT DIFFICULT TO PASS MEASURES
DEDICATED TO FUNDING CRITICAL
LOCAL SERVICES SERVICES LIKE
PUBLIC SAFETY, LIKE PROVIDING
TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT HOUSING
FOR RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES
, BOOSTING THE PRODUCTION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FIXING OUR
STREETS AND ROADS AND SO MUCH
MORE. FOR EXAMPLE, FROM 2001 TO
2018. LOCAL REVENUE MEASURES
WITH A TWO THIRDS VOTE
REQUIREMENT HAVE ENJOYED ONLY A
51% PASSAGE RATE. THIS IS
COMPARED TO A 70% PASSAGE RATE
OF ALL LOCAL REVENUE MEASURES
OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME.
THE STATUS QUO IS MEANT THAT
CITIES HAVE HAD TO FOREGO
PROVIDING SERVICES THAT A
MAJORITY OF THEIR RESIDENTS WANT
AND A MAJORITY OF THEIR
RESIDENTS NEED. BUT REGARDLESS,
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL CONTINUE
TO FIGHT TO PROTECT LOCAL PUBLIC
SERVICES LIKE 911 DISPATCHERS
AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS. WE
WILL FIGHT TO ENSURE THAT WE
HAVE CLEAN AND SAFE STREETS AND
ROADS AND COMMUNITIES, WE WILL
PROVIDE BITE TO PROVIDE SHELTER
AND HOUSED AND WE WILL FIGHT TO
ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE
THE HOUSING FOR OUR WORKERS. OUR
TEACHERS ARE YOUNG FAMILIES AND
YES, EVEN OUR SENIORS. A C A 13
SIMPLY EMPOWERS THE VOTERS TO
DECIDE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO
PROTECT LOCAL REVENUE MEASURES
THAT FUND LOCAL SERVICES. WHAT
WE KNOW IS TRUE IS THAT VOTERS
WANT THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. TO
LEAD IN ADDRESSING THE
CHALLENGES OUR COMMUNITIES FACE
AND TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL PUBLIC
SERVICES. A C A 13 WILL PROTECT
THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE THEIR
VOICES HEARD AND TO ENSURE THEY
HAVE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED
. FOR THESE REASONS, THE LEGAL
CALIFORNIA CITIES HAS
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING, AND I
VOTE ON A C A 13. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MISS COLEMAN. NEXT
STEP, MISS CHOW. BEFORE YOU
BEGIN. LET'S ESTABLISH A QUORUM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SENATORS GLASER GLASER HERE
WHEN, WHEN HERE, ALAN MCGUIRE.
MENJIVAR MENJIVAR HERE. NEWMAN
HAMBURG. UMBERG HERE WE HAVE A
QUORUM PRESENT. OKAY MR CHOW.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OF
COURSE. LAURA'S YOURS, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS AND THE CHILD WITH
THE CALIFORNIA TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORTING THE 13,
WHICH ENSHRINES THE DEMOCRATIC
PRINCIPLE OF ONE PERSON. ONE
VOTE. 8 13 PROTECTS SCHOOL
FUNDING AND LOCAL CONTROL. IN
ADDITION TO STATE GENERAL FUND
ALLOCATED TO SCHOOLS, LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO
ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS BY USING
BALLOT MEASURES TO ASK VOTERS TO
APPROVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR
SCHOOLS. THIS IS FUNDING FOR
CLASSROOMS AND LIBRARIES TO
SUPPORT STUDENTS AND TEACHERS
AND FOR ARTS AND MUSIC
EDUCATION. VOTERS APPROVED
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR
EDUCATION FUNDING THROUGH LOCAL
MEASURES EVERY ELECTION CYCLE.
IT'S INTEGRAL TO ENSURE THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND VOTERS
RETAIN THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE
WHAT THEIR COMMUNITIES NEED MOST
AND CAN ACT ON IT. CT HAS BEEN
IN THE FOREFRONT OF IT, ENSURING
STABILITY IN SCHOOL FUNDING AND
AVOIDING CUTS TO EDUCATION
THROUGH PROP 30 IN 2012 AND ITS
EXTENSION, PROP 55 IN 2016. 30
PASSED BY 55% VOTE AND PROP 55
PASSED BY 63% VOTE OCCURRED
DURING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
YEARS WITH INCREASED VOTER
PARTICIPATION IN PASSED BY A
MAJORITY, BUT BY NO MEANS A
SUPER MAJORITY OF VOTES. BOTH
WOULD HAVE SEEN BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS, LOST TWO SCHOOLS THAT
THEY DID NOT PASS AT THE TURN OF
THE LAST DECADE. CALIFORNIA
RANKED IN THE MIDDLE THIRTIES
NATIONS AND PER PUPIL FUNDING,
THANKS TO FOCUS AND INCREASED
FUNDING THROUGH PROP 30 PROP 55
AS WELL AS WELCOME MEASURES.
CALIFORNIA IS NOW 19TH. BUT THAT
IS NOWHERE NEAR WHERE WE SHOULD
BE AS 1/5 LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE
WORLD. DURING THE PASSAGE OF A C
13 IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO
PROTECT STUDENTS AND TEACHERS.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS CT URGES
YOUR I VOTE ON THIS PRIORITY,
BILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY. SO HERE'S THE
PRACTICE IN THE COMMITTEE IS
THAT AFTER HEARING TWO SPEAKERS
IN FAVOR, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT
UP FOR THOSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM TO COME UP TO THE
MICROPHONE AND JUST GIVE THEIR
NAME AND AFFILIATION AND THEIR
POSITION OF SUPPORT. FOLLOWING
THAT, WE'LL HEAR FROM TWO
SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION, AND THEN
WE'LL DO THE SAME EXERCISE THOSE
IN THE HEARING ROOM THAT WANT TO
SPEAK, PUT THEIR NAME ON THE
RECORD AND OPPOSITION TO COME
FORWARD AND TO DO SO. FOLLOWING
THAT WE'LL GO TO OUR
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND ALLOW
INDIVIDUALS TO IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES FOR OVER AGAINST AND
THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION
AND QUESTIONS. SO THAT'S OUR
PRACTICE. SO THIS IS THE MOMENT
JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
BILL, AND SO YOU CAN BEGIN.
MORNING MR CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
NICK CRUZ WITH THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, BRIAN
MOLINA WITH CALIFORNIA CALLS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
SHARON MEMBERS JESSICA HEY WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. TIFFANY MARK WITH CFT IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS
CURA ROSS ON BEHALF OF THE
CITIES OF GLENDALE AND BURBANK
AND SUPPORT GOOD MORNING SHARING
MEMBERS, ERIC TURNER WITH THE
MILITARY PRISON ASSOCIATES ON
BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF APPLE
VALLEY AND EASTERN MUNICIPAL
WATER DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. MORNING MR CHAIR
AND THE REST RAMIREZ ON BEHALF
OF THE TRI VALLEY CITIES OF
DUBLIN, LIVERMORE, PLEASANT AND
DENVER AND SAN RAMON, AS WELL AS
THE CITY'S WALNUT CREEK AND HALF
MOON BAY AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING TURN MEMBERS CARLY
SHELBY ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES
AND POINT APART COMDEN OR VINE,
MISSION VIEJO, OAKLAND,
OCEANSIDE POWER ALTOS AND PABLO
SANTA BARBARA AND CONQUERED IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IS HE
SWIMMING ON BEHALF OF MAYOR
LONDON BREED OF SAN FRANCISCO
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING CHAIRMAN MEMBERS KIRK
BLACKBURN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF INGLEWOOD AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MELISSA
STILL HIGH HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
RECREATION AND PARKS DISTRICT
AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES
OF BELMONT MOUNTAIN VIEW RENTAL
CUCAMONGA IN SANTA ROSA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS.
SCOTT'S HERE WITH THE DESERT
RECREATION DISTRICT. COACHELLA
VALLEY IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, ERIC
LARA ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES,
REPRESENTING ALL 58 COUNTIES AND
STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING,
JANICE O'MALLEY WITH AFSCME,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING, DOUG SUPERS ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS IN SUPPORT. THANKS,
JACK. GOOD MORNING. RUTH DAWSON
IS CALIFORNIA ACTION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
, MARCUS DETWEILER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, CINDY TUCK
WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA WATER AGENCIES IN
SUPPORT OF A C A 13. MORNING MR
CHAIR AND SENATOR HAMBURG
PAULSON'S OFFICE ON BEHALF OF
THE CITIES OF ELK GROVE.
FAIRFIELD IRVINE, KERMAN,
LAKEWOOD, NOR CODE, NORWALK AND
ROOSEVELT IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
ROSS BUCKLEY ON BEHALF OF THE
THIEVES SACRAMENTO ON BEHALF OF
SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT, DISTRICT AND
SUPPORT. THANKS. MORNING ANDRE
SO MEET US AGAIN ON BEHALF OF
THE NONPROFIT HOUSING
ASSOCIATION IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR MARK FINSTER
MAKER ON BEHALF OF SONOMA WATER
AND STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING, JENNIFER FEARING FOR
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
NONPROFITS AND SUPPORT GOOD
MORNING, NATALIE SPEED BACK ON
BEHALF OF HOUSING, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, ELIZABETH
KIM WITH ECO, CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING,
RICHELLE MASON ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ALLIANCE ACTION, ALSO
REGISTERING SUPPORT FOR THE
CENTRAL COAST ALLIANCE UNITED
FOR A SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY,
COMMUNITIES FOR A BETTER
ENVIRONMENT, ASIAN PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MARTIN
RADOSEVIC ON BEHALF OF SANTA
CLARA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT,
UNITED WAY OF GREATER LOS
ANGELES AND POWER CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NICOLE WARD
ULLMAN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
ONTARIO. ONE SUPPORT JEFF NEAL,
ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF
CONTRA COSTA AND THE CITY OF
TULA VISTA AND IMPORTANT HMM. MR
SHARON SENATORS TERRY BRENNAN ON
BEHALF OF S, E I U CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT AND PROUD COAST
BOUNDS. THANK YOU. HOLIDAYS
MEMBERS IS THIS FILM ON BEHALF
OF THE SOUTH SAN JOAQUIN
IRRIGATION DISTRICT AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. JIM CRAMER'S
INTERNATIONAL UNITS, OPERATE
ENGINEERS AND FULL SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.
ALRIGHT LAST CALL FOR ANY OTHER
BUDDY ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM TO INDICATE SUPPORT. SO YOU
KNOW ONE. WE'RE GONNA GO TO
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE. I
DON'T KNOW WHO THE ORGANIZED
OPPOSITION IS FOR SPEAKERS, BUT
. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS
VANESSA CHAVEZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS HERE TODAY IN
OPPOSITION TO A C 13 13 WOULD
REQUIRE THAT ANY CITIZEN LED
INITIATIVE TO AMEND THE STATE
CONSTITUTION, WHICH ATTEMPTS TO
INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF VOTES
NEEDED TO PASS A LOCAL STATE
BALLOT MEASURE MUST ITSELF
PASSED BY THE SAME PERCENTAGE.
THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH A
PROPOSAL COULD HAVE DISASTROUS
EFFECTS BY ERODING THE CURRENT
VOTER ENACTED. CITIZEN LED
INITIATIVES THAT ARE ENSHRINED
WITHIN THE STATE'S CONSTITUTION.
A C A 13 WILL LEAD TO FUTURE
ATTACKS ON EXISTING VOTER
INACTIVE PROPERTY TAX RULES THAT
IMPOSE REASONABLE CHECKS AND
BALANCES FOR TAX INCREASES THESE
PROTECTIONS THAT HOMEOWNERS
THESE PROTECTIONS THAT
HOMEOWNERS WILL BE ABLE TO STOP.
NEW PROPERTY TAX, NEW PROPERTY
TAXES THAT COULD RENDER THEIR
HOMES AND AFFORDABLE AND
INHIBIT. THEIR THEIR ABILITY TO
KEEP THEIR ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS
. A C A 13 LEAVES, HOMEOWNERS,
HOUSING PROVIDERS, RENTERS AND
BUSINESS OWNERS WITH THE NEW
CHALLENGE THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN
THE CURRENT MODEL IN ORDER TO
RESTORE THOSE PROTECTIONS. NOW
WHILE THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN
SURROUNDING TAXES, THERE ARE
OTHER POLICIES THAT MAY
INADVERTENTLY BE HARMED BY A C A
13. WE'RE INCREASING THE
THRESHOLD TO PASS FUTURE
PROPOSALS, SUCH AS THOSE RELATED
TO REFORMS TO THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES
STRENGTHENING OVERSIGHT MEASURES
THOSE RELATED TO HUMAN RIGHTS OR
EVEN THE ABILITY TO STRENGTHEN
CONSUMER LAWS. ALL THESE
EXAMPLES PROVIDE PROOF TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT A C 13 HAS
BROAD REACHING IMPLICATIONS FOR
VOTERS IN THE STATE AND THEIR
ABILITY TO CONSTRAIN GOVERNMENT
ACTION FOR WHICHEVER PARTY LEADS
A SUPERMAJORITY. ADDITIONALLY
ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE
FAIRNESS PROJECT HAVE
CHARACTERIZED THE RAISING OF THE
THRESHOLD TO PASS INITIATIVES AS
RAISED RAPIDLY ACCELERATED
ATTACKS ON DIRECTOR DEMOCRACY.
THEY FURTHER STATE THAT THESE
ATTACKS HAVE MULTIPLIED AND
BECOME MORE NUANCED AND
SOPHISTICATED OVER TIME, WITH
REACTIONARY LAWMAKERS FAVORING A
DEATH BY 1000 CUTS APPROACH TO
UNDERMINE THE INITIATIVE
PROCESS. WHICH ULTIMATELY
RESULTED IN SILENCING THE VOICE
THE VOICES OF THEIR
CONSTITUENTS. THE EXAMPLES. MOST
RECENTLY OF THE SUPERMAJORITY IN
OHIO, TRYING TO RAISE A VOTE
THRESHOLD TO PREVENT AN
INITIATIVE IT WANTED TO MAKE
HARDER TO PASS IS THE MOST
RECENT ATTEMPT BY PRIMARILY
SUPERMAJORITY LEGISLATURES TO
PREVENT OUTCOMES THEY WERE WOULD
OCCUR AT THE BALLOT BOX.
DEMOCRATS FROM OTHER STATES
RAISED CONCERNS REGARDING THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT PROPOSALS
AND RAISING THE VOTE THRESHOLD
IN OHIO WOULD HAVE ON THE
ABILITY OF VOTERS TO
MEANINGFULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE
INITIATIVE PROCESS. CR
APPRECIATES THE COMMITTEE FOR
GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO
RESPECTFULLY ENGAGE AND DISCUSS
OUR CONCERNS ON THE 13. WE
REMAIN COMMITTED TO CONTINUING
THIS DIALOGUE TO OFFER
SOLUTIONS. FOR GREATER VOTER
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESS AT THE
BALLOT BOX. AT THIS TIME, WE
WERE MADE OUT OF IMPASSE FOR THE
REASONS LISTED ABOVE AND WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR NO
VOTE ON EAST 13TH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, VANESSA. WHAT WAS
THAT TIME? MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
GOOD MORNING, ROB WILL
ABSOLUTELY PRESIDENT CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE HERE IN
OPPOSITION TO 13. 13 IS DEEPLY
FLAWED. AS YOU KNOW, CHARTER
CITIES. UNLIKE GENERAL LAW,
CITIES ARE NOT BOUND BY STATE
STATUTES THAT ARE IN CONFLICT
WITH THEIR CHARTER. HIGHER TAX
THRESHOLDS CAN ONLY BE IMPOSED
ON CHARTER CITIES BY A
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT UNDER
ARTICLE 11 OF THE CONSTITUTION.
A C A 13 ONLY APPLIES TO
INITIATIVES THAT AMEND THE
CONSTITUTION NOT TO THOSE THAT
ENACT OR AMEND STATUTES. IF THIS
IS BY DESIGN AND INTENTIONAL AND
ONLY APPLIES TO THE STATE'S
LARGEST MORE URBAN CITIES. IF IT
IS A FLAW, THE DIRECT RESULT OF
RUSHING THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE
VETTING PROCESS AND JUST TWO
WEEKS WE NEED TO STOP AND BETTER
ASSESS. THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. SINCE GENERAL LAW
, CITY'S COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS
AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS ARE BOUND
BY STATE STATUTE. HIGHER VOTE
THRESHOLD CAN STILL BE IMPOSED
ON THESE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
YOU'RE A STATEWIDE INITIATIVE
STATUTE. APPROVED BY A SIMPLE
MAJORITY OF THE VOTE OF THE
STATEWIDE ELECTORATE UNDER A CH
13. AGAIN DESPITE THE PROPONENTS
CLAIMS OF FAIRNESS. A C A 13.
ONLY PROTECTS THE LEGAL CITY'S
LARGEST AND WEALTHIEST. CHARTER
CITIES WHILE LEAVING EVERYONE
ELSE BEHIND OUT OF THE 482
CITIES. 58 COUNTIES, 1018 SCHOOL
DISTRICTS AND 3300 SPECIAL
DISTRICTS. MIRROR 121 CHARTER
CITIES THAT ARE PROTECTED BY A C
A 13. MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS. I
THINK THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL
STRATEGY BY THE SPONSORS TO
DECEIVE YOU AND THE MEMBERS OF
THE LEGISLATURE. IN ORDER TO USE
YOUR VOTES TO TRY AND STOP THE
TAXPAYER PROTECTION ACT. AND
SILENCE. THE MORE THAN 1.4
MILLION VOTERS WHO SIGNED
PETITIONS TO PUT IT ON THE
BALLOT. A C A 13 IS DEEPLY
FLAWED CREATES A SERIES OF
WINNERS AND LOSERS AND
UNEQUIVOCALLY SHOULD NOT MOVE
FORWARD AT THIS HOUR. IN FACT,
ANOTHER FLAW THAT THE STATE
GENERAL FUND COULD END UP HAVING
TO REMEDY THE DIFFERENCE IN
FUNDING BETWEEN GENERAL LAW AND
CHARTER CITIES. THE INEQUITIES
BUILT INTO 13 MR CHAIRMAN COULD
VERY WELL TRIGGER AND EQUAL
PROTECTION CLAIM BASED UPON
DIFFERENT FUNDING LEVELS FOR THE
SAME SERVICES. AND WHETHER
SOMEONE LIVES INSIDE OR OUTSIDE
A CHARTER CITY. THE COURTS
DETERMINED IN SERRANO VERSUS
PRIEST WHERE DISPARITIES AND
LOCAL SCHOOL FUNDING VIOLATED
THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE. THE
STATE'S GENERAL FUND CAN BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR REMEDYING THIS
AGAIN. THIS WAS RUSHED THROUGH
THE PROCESS FOR THESE REASONS
AND MANY, MANY, MANY OTHERS. WE
RESPECTFULLY ASKED THAT YOU
OPPOSE THIS BILL AND PUSH IT
OVER SO CONTINUE. DISCUSSIONS
CAN CONTINUE. AND IF IT GOES TO
NOVEMBER, WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME
TO DO THAT. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK
YOU, SIR. VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO NOW
PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS MEASURE TO COME TO THE
MICROPHONE TO GIVE THEIR NAME
AND AFFILIATION AND THEIR
POSITION IN OPPOSITION. JON
COUPAL, PRESIDENT OF THE HOWARD
JARVIS TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION,
STRONGLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU,
SIR. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, CHRIS MCKAY LI ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES AREA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. PRESTON YOUNG
FROM THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE HERE TODAY IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. TOBIAS
WALKING WITH THE CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION.
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. MATTHEW HARGROVE AT THE
CALIFORNIA BUSINESS PROPERTIES
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING THE
BUILDING, OWNERS AND MANAGERS
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA, NAPA
, CALIFORNIA IRAM OF CALIFORNIA
AND ICSC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SIR. I WANT TO GIVE ONE FINAL
OPPORTUNITY. FOR THOSE WHO WANT
TO PUT THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD
IN OPPOSITION PROCEEDINGS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA HOTEL
MARGIN ASSOCIATION, RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED. VERY GOOD. OKAY, NOW
WE'VE COMPLETED THE. THE IN ROOM
TESTIMONY. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
OUR PHONE LINES AND INVITE THOSE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO PUT THEIR NAME
ON THE RECORD AND SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO DO SO. NOW WE'VE
SET ASIDE 15 MINUTES AS A
MAXIMUM AND AGAIN TESTIMONY HAS
ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED. WE JUST
WANT YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION.
IF ANY IN POSITION. SO UH,
MODERATOR, WOULD YOU INVITE
THOSE TWO WHO WISH TO BUT THEIR
NAME ON THE RECORD ON A C A 13.
MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
COMMENT, YOU MAY PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE KEYPAD.
AND OUR FIRST QUESTION COMES
FROM LINE. 59 1 MOMENT, PLEASE.
AND YOU MAY GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS
CHRISTOPHER NICK PHIL BOWEN
WITHOUT FAMILY HOUSING AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF A STAGE
ROUTINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. NEXT IS
LINE 1 28. MORNING ON 100
MINUTES A DAY FROM ORANGE COUNTY
, CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF 13. NEXT WE GO TO 1
47. HI MY NAME IS, UM GEORGE
PENDLETON. I LIVE IN ORANGE
COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ORANGE
AND I AM DEFINITELY KNOW WHEN A
C A 13. IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO STOP
THE TAXPAYERS, THAT'S ALL
OPERATOR. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
IT'S JUST A MOMENT TO PUT YOU IN
105. GOOD MORNING, DORA ROSE
WITH THE LEGAL WOMEN VOTERS IN
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT.
ALSO, I HAVE THE PROXY OF
CALIFORNIA COMMON CAUSE ALSO IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THEY SEE A 13.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 36
GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
VERONICA PARISH, OTHERS. IN
PASADENA, CALIFORNIA TAX THERE
IN SUPPORT OF A 13. NEXT IS LINE
104. GOOD MORNING, MIKE DENNIS
UNITED WAY OF GREATER LOS
ANGELES AND STRONG SUPPORT. NEXT
IS LINE 53. YES DENNY'S VEINS
FROM PANAMA, RIGHT AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF HB A 13. NEXUS LINE,
43. THE MORNING JOE DONLAN WITH
THE UNITED HOUSE DELAYED
COALITION IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE 13. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 64.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS TASIA
STEPHENS, CALLING ON BEHALF OF
CATALYST, CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT. NEXT IS LINE 1 90. TELL
ME CROW WING COUNTY IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO A C ONE. THREE.
NEXT IS LINE 1 22. GOOD MORNING
DT CHECKER ARE WITH GREATER WAY
UNITED. UH SORRY, ANOTHER WAY OF
GREATER LOS ANGELES AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT. WE
HAVE LINE 1 69. MARRY DAVIS,
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS AND DIEGO
COUNTY IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
HB A 13. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 51.
MAGGIE TIED CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER
IN UNION CITY, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT OF 13. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 66. HI JIM WILKINSON WITH
GRACE AND IN CHILD POVERTY IN
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
13. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 1 33. S
AND M V I, WITH POWER SWITCH
ACTION AND STRONG SUPPORT OF 13.
NEXT WE GO TO LINE 63. TEXT WITH
PARENT VOICES CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 1 14. GOOD MORNING, DAVID
WYNN AND I'M CALLING ON BEHALF
OF COMMUNITY COALITION IN VERY
STRONG SUPPORT. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 42. NO. LINE, 42. YOU MAY
GO AHEAD. UM THE OTHER THING. I
UH MY NAME IS NINA LONG AND I'M
WITH A P S FORCE AT THE
COMPARTMENT EDUCATION FUND IN
SUPPORT OF 13. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 1 56. HI. THIS IS CALLING
IN WITH FRANCISCO RISING AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF 1 13. NEXT WE
GO TO LINE 25. MY NAME IS RICH
WARNER. I OPPOSE A C A 13. NEXT
WE GO TO LINE 1 74. RECEIVERS,
THE COACHELLA VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT AND SUPPORT NEXT WE GO
TO LINE 100. I GUESS THIS TREND
WAS FROM EVIL CALIFORNIA
INSURANCE SUPPORT. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 1 25. MY NAME IS ANITA
ADDISON. I'M RETIRED CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYER STRONGLY OPPOSED A 13.
NEXT IS LINE 90. HI I'M OLIVIA
MCKEEN E AND I AM A TAXPAYER
FROM REDDING, CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT 13. NEXT IS
LINE 1 83. 1 83. YOU MAY GO
AHEAD. WE WILL MOVE ON TO LINE 1
31, PLEASE GO AHEAD. ANJANETTE
CAST TAXPAYER HAS STRONGLY
OPPOSED A C A 13. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 1 34. THIS IS HELENE,
MEXICAN, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE A
C A 13 ON THE CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYER FROM BURBANK. NEXT WE
GO TO LINE 1 10. THIS IS JULIA
ROBERTS ON BEHALF OF RENTAL
CALIFORNIA WATER DISTRICT AND
STRONG SUPPORT. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 1 15. HI MY NAME IS NIKKI
CALVIN. I'M A CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYER, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
A 13. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 1 53. 1
53. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
JONI PROCESS IN. I AM A
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER. I STRONGLY
OPPOSE A C A 13. NEXT WE GO TO 1
61. HI MY NAME IS NANCY PETERSON
. I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AND
TAXPAYER. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
A 13. NEXT WE GO TO 1 60. HI
THIS IS JEFFREY ELLIS IN SANTA
CRUZ AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE A C A
13. NEXT WE GO TO 1 52. HI STEVE
ASIAN STRONGLY OPPOSED. 13. NEXT
WE GO TO 1 77. BYE BYE NAMES.
JULIA SORRY FROM LAKE FOREST,
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER STRONGLY
OPPOSED A 13. NEXT IS 106. LINE.
106 YEAR LINE IS OPEN. YOU MAY
GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME
IS CURTIS COUSTEAU. I'M A
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER, AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED A C A 13. NEXT
WE GO TO 1 55. HELLO MY NAME IS
SUZANNE MARCELA CAMARILLO. I
MEAN, RETIRED CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYER AND PROPERTY OWNER AND
I VERY STRONGLY OPPOSED 13. NEXT
WE GO TO 1 23. FINALLY GENERAL
MANAGER. HE LOOKS WATER DISTRICT
IN SAN DIEGO. STRONGLY SUPPORT
13. THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO TO 1
71, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
JEFFREY MATTHEWS, SAN SAN DIEGO
COUNTY TAXPAYER, AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE A C A 13. NEXT WE GO TO 1
26. HI I'M CAITLIN STEIN. I'M A
PROPERTY OWNER IN SAN FRANCISCO
AND THE TAXPAYER AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSED A C A 13. NEXT WE GO TO
LINE 102. GOOD MORNING FIRST
NAMED DEVIN LAST NAMES TODAY I
AM A CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER, AND I
STRONGLY WAS 13. NEXT WE GO TO 1
76. YES MY NAME IS TOM TRACY.
I'M A TAXPAYER AND A PROPERTY
OWNER IN MENIFEE, CALIFORNIA AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE A C A 13. NEXT
WE GO TO 1 54. HELLO EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS MARK FITZGERALD AND I
AM A CALIFORNIAN TECH TAXPAYER
AND A HOMEOWNER. AND I STRONGLY
BECAUSE THE 13 THANK YOU. NEXT
WE GO TO 1 50. GOOD MORNING. I'M
SUSAN GALINO. OF RETIRED
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED H B A 13. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE GO TO 71. 71 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. YOU MAY GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DE
GRACIA. I'M A RESIDENT IN NEWARK
, CALIFORNIA, AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE A C 13. NEXT WE GO TO 1
39. BECAUSE WORLD BORN SKIP
RETIRED PROPERTY OWNER IN SAN
DIEGO COUNTY, AND THEY STRONGLY
OPPOSED A C A 13. NEXT WE GO TO
1 40. 1 40 YEAR LINE IS UP AND
YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WE WILL MOVE
ON TO LINE 86, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BEN
GRIEF. I'M FROM EVOLVED
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT AT 13. NEXT IS 1 43.
HELLO MY NAME IS PAULA BEEN ANTI
AND I'M LIKE TAXPAYER VOTER IN
CALIFORNIA, AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE A C A 13. NEXT IS LINE 1
27. MY NAME IS RICHARD SANDERS,
SAN DIEGO COUNTY TAXPAYERS FOR
63 YEARS AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED
THIS PROPOSITION. A C A 13. BUT
NEXT WE HAVE BLIND 1 80. HELLO.
GO AHEAD. HELLO HELLO. CAN YOU
HEAR ME? GO AHEAD, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR
ME? YES, WE CAN. OKAY THIS IS
MARIA RODRIGUEZ, UM, BACK THERE
AND OWNER OF PROPERTY. I OPPOSE
IT STRONGLY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. LIKES
TO EXCUSE ME NEXT IN LINE TO 01.
GOOD MORNING, MRS ROBINSON ON
BEHALF OF E N B ACTION IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
204. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBER SYLVIA'S ALICIA HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CITIES OF BEVERLY
HILLS, SANTA MONICA WAS
HOLLYWOOD, THE CALIFORNIA
FACULTY ASSOCIATION MAYOR KAREN
BASS FROM THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES AND MAYOR. LONDON BREED
OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN
FRANCISCO. ALL IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
22. HELLO MY NAME IS DONNA
WHITELEY. I'M FROM MARIETTA,
CALIFORNIA, LONGTIME TAXPAYER. I
OPPOSED STRONGLY 13. NEXT IS
LINE 1 29. HI MY NAME IS RON
BELL. I'M A CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER
. I STRONGLY OPPOSE 13. NEXT IS
LINE 79. MY NAME IS DWIGHT
HARVEY AND I'M FROM CALIFORNIA.
TAXPAYER AND HOME ORDER MARK
AIRCRAFT INSPECTOR, AND THEY
STRONGLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS 48. LINE 48.
YOU MAY GO AHEAD. I HELLO. MY
NAME IS CLARESSA. DOW. THIRD I
AM A CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER AND
PUBLIC PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PARENTS
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE 13.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE 205. MY
NAME IS BRIAN. MINOR REPRESENTED
. SPOKE L A AND I'M ALSO A
TAXPAYER, AND I'M CALLING IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A C A PRETTY
NEXT IS LINE 1 98. HELLO. GO
AHEAD FROM SCOPE. AND I SUPPORT
A C A 13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE LINE 77.
LINE 77. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YOU
MAY GO AHEAD. HI SYLVIA HANDLE
WITH COMMUNITIES FOR A BETTER
ENVIRONMENT AND STRONG SUPPORT
OF 13. NEXT IS LINE 55. HI I'M
JOANNE SANAN, RESIDENT OF
BLOOMING ESTÁN, CALIFORNIA I'M A
RETIRED CALIFORNIA SECRETARY,
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED A C A 13.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE 44. HI
MY NAME IS ELI LIBMAN. I AM A
TAXPAYER AND A PROPERTY OWNER.
UH AND I AM A MAJOR PROPONENT
FOR MEASURE YOU ELLA AND PART OF
THE UNITED COALITION AND I SUPER
DUPER STRONGLY SUPPORT HATE DAY
13. THANK YOU. NEXT IS 58. BLIND
58. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. HMM. WE
WILL MOVE ON TO LINE 2 15,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. SO GOOD MORNING
INVESTORS SALAS ON BEHALF OF
PUBLIC ADVOCATES IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF 13. THANK YOU. NEXT
WE GO TO 1 45. 1 45 YEAR LINE IS
OPEN. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WE WILL
MOVE ON TO LINE 202. MY NAME IS,
UH, DANNY SERRANO. I'M A
TAXPAYER AND WHAT WHICH SCHOOL?
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE STRONG
SUPPORT OF BASICALLY A 13. THANK
YOU. AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE ONE
MORE CALLER AND WE'LL HAVE MADE
OUR 15 MINUTE LIMIT ON TELEPHONE
TESTIMONY, MODERATOR JUST ONE
MORE TO 03. GOOD MORNING. SHARON
MEMBERS SHARON REPORT WITH THE
CORPORATION FOR SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE
PARTICIPATED HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM. OR ON OUR TELECONFERENCE
LINES. IF YOU WE'RE NOT ABLE TO
GET YOUR AH, POSITION ON THE
RECORD. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SEND A
NOTE TO OUR COMMITTEE AND, WELL,
SURE, IT'S A PART OF THE
OFFICIAL RECORD. ALRIGHT, WE'RE
GOING TO BRING THE MEASURE BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION
AND COMMENTS. I WANT TO, UH,
ALLOWED THE AUTHOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARD TO RESPOND
TO ANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU
HAVE HEARD THUS FAR ANYTHING YOU
WANT TO SHARE WITH US. UM, I WAS
PREPARED FOR CLOSING STATEMENT.
I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'VE
BEEN SPENDING A GOOD AMOUNT OF
TIME WITH THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO
REALLY ONE SORT OF TEASE OUT
WHAT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THEIR
CONCERNS ARE AND SEE HOW WE CAN
BE ABLE TO IMPROVE UPON THAT,
AND ONE OF THOSE IS IN THE FORM
OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE
TAKING TODAY TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY
CRYSTAL CLEAR, EVEN THOUGH I
BELIEVE IT'S INHERENT BECAUSE
THINGS IN OUR CONSTITUTION OR
NOT APPLIED RETROACTIVELY
PROPOSITION 13 IS ALIVE AND
WELL, AND SO WE WANT TO REFLECT
THAT IN BOTH THE FINDINGS AND
DECLARATIONS AND ALSO IN THE
AMENDMENT PROPOSED EC ITSELF.
GOING TO THE VOTERS THAT THIS IS
ONLY FOR MEASURES PROSPECTIVELY.
AS IS ALREADY THE POLICIES ON ON
ON WHEN ON ON WHEN THINGS ARE
ENACTED, AND TO WHAT THEY AFFECT
. UM SO I'M HAPPY THAT I THINK
THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
CLARIFY THAT SO I AM SO FINDING
TROUBLE. HOW DO WE MEET
OPPOSITION THERE? WHEN UM, MAYBE
IN DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE ROOT
OF THAT OPPOSITION. THE ENEMY
PROMPTS YOU. THEN THERE WAS A
CONCERN RAISED THAT THIS HIGHER
THRESHOLD LIMITATION THAT'S IN
YOUR MEASURE WOULD ONLY APPLY TO
CONSTITUTIONAL MEASURES NOT TO
AH THAT THAT STATE STATUTE COULD
REQUIRE A HIGHER THRESHOLD FOR
NON CHARTER CITIES. ANY THOUGHTS
ON THAT? SO THE THOUGHTS ON
THAT? ARE THAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN
SO FAR AS WHAT I AM
CHARACTERIZING AS A PATTERN OF
ABUSE AND FIRST IN 1990, THEN
AGAIN IN 2018 AND 2022, AND NOW
IN 2024, AND LIKELY THEY WOULD
ENJOY FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES TO
USE DECISIONS INITIATIVE PROCESS
TO CHANGE OUR CONSTITUTION. SO
WHEN I AS A LEGISLATOR, I'M
IDENTIFYING A PROBLEM. I WANT TO
BE VERY TARGETED ABOUT THAT
SOLUTION. AND, OF COURSE, THE
CONSTITUTION AS OUR GUIDING
DOCUMENT REALLY SETS THE STAGE
FOR SO MANY OTHER, UM UH,
UNDERLYING DECISIONS AND
QUESTIONS, INCLUDING VOTER
PASSAGE UNDER STATUTES, WHICH,
OF COURSE, THE LEGISLATURE HAS
THE PURVIEW TO REVIEW AND SEND
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO THE
VOTERS AS WELL. SO YOU DON'T SEE
THIS AS A LOOPHOLE IN YOUR
MEASURE, YOU'VE SEEN IT AS
FOCUSED ON WHERE YOU THOUGHT THE
ISSUE WAS THAT'S CORRECT, OK?
GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO
COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE
COMMITTEE, ANY THOUGHTS OR
COMMENTS MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT, UM
. I FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR YOUR
ENGAGEMENT WITH ME AND MY STAFF
THROUGHOUT THE LAST WEEK. UH, WE
HAD MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS
THAT THAT CONTINUED THROUGH THE
WEEKEND. AND I VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
MAKE THESE AMENDMENTS TO YOUR
MEASURE. THAT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT
THIS IS A THIS IS NOT A MEASURE
THAT'S TRYING TO GO BACKWARDS.
THIS IS NOT A MEASURE THAT'S
GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON
PROPOSITION 13 AND THE
REQUIREMENTS OF PROPOSITION 13.
AND I THINK FOR ME AND I THINK
FOR MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL
APPRECIATE THAT THE CLARITY THAT
THAT YOU'VE ENHANCED IN THE
MEASURE NOW WILL BE THE BILL IN
PRINT. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR ALL FOR YOUR WORK THERE. YOU
KNOW, UM A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF
THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS. IS TO
ENSURE THAT THERE IS HONESTY AND
FAIRNESS. IN THE WORK THAT WE DO
AND THAT THAT, UH. QUESTIONS
THAT ARE PUT TO VOTERS ARE DONE
IN A WAY, SO THERE'S MINIMIZES.
AH MISUNDERSTANDING OR
MANIPULATION. AND THAT PART OF
THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
WE'RE NOT PUTTING A THUMB ON THE
SCALE IN THE WORK THAT WE DO. UM
AND I AM, UH, PERSUADED THAT THE
MEASURE THAT YOU HAVE PUT
FORWARD AH! APPALLS THOSE HIGH
STANDARDS OF FAIRNESS. AND
HONESTY. UH THAT WHAT YOUR
MEASURE WILL ALLOW. UM IS AH!
ITS LOCAL CHOICE. UH BUT DONE IN
A WAY WITH STANDARDS OF FAIRNESS
. IF YOUR MEASURE WERE TO BE
SUCCESSFUL, AND IT'S FOR THOSE
REASONS THAT I'M GOING TO
SUPPORT IT TODAY, I APPRECIATE
YOUR WORK AND ADVANCING IT. I'M
WRECKING A RECOGNIZE A MOTION
FROM SENATOR MENJIVAR AND GIVE
YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY
CLOSING ARGUMENTS YOU WISH TO
MAKE. THANK YOU, SENATOR GLASER
. IT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO WORK
WITH YOU AS WELL. AND YOUR TEAM
ON MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS DONE
RIGHT? I HAD A COMMUNITY
RESOURCE FAIR THIS WEEKEND AS WE
OFTEN DO WHEN WE'RE OUT IN
COMMUNITIES, AND I MET SOMEBODY
THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR 15 YEARS AND
SHE SAID, CHRIS, I'M READING
ABOUT THIS MEASURE. AND YOU
KNOW, WHAT DOES IT DO? I'M
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT, AND I
EXPLAINED IT AS I HAD TO THIS
COMMITTEE AND MY OPEN AND SHE
THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID,
WELL, I REALLY WANT A TWO THIRDS
VOTE, AND I SAID THAT'S GREAT. I
SAID. BUT DO YOU THINK THAT TWO
THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD
AGREE WITH YOU? AND SHE FROZE?
AND THEN I SAID, WELL, DO YOU
THINK THAT THAT IS, WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT? IS ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO
ACTUALLY PASS A QUESTION THAT IF
YOU ARE RAISING SOMETHING TO A
SIGNIFICANT LEVEL, WE KNOW THAT
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT
CONSEQUENCES. SOMEWHERE DOWN.
THE LINE TO OUR CITIES OR
COUNTIES ARE SPECIAL DISTRICTS
TO AN ISSUE A SUBJECT AND
BECAUSE OF THOSE SPECIFIC
CONSEQUENCES, POSSIBLY, YOU
KNOW, FOREVER INTO THE FUTURE.
IT BEGS IN A VERY IMPORTANT
QUESTION. WHAT IS THE
APPROPRIATE LEVEL FOR PASSAGE?
AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE. YOU
SHOW THE SAME LEVEL OF SUPPORT
THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING, AND THAT
WILL BE THE STANDARD GOING
FORWARD. NOW. THIS IS NOT
UNPRECEDENTED BECAUSE IN MY CITY
IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, OUR
SECOND LARGEST CITY WE DEALT
WITH THIS ISSUE ABOUT 20 YEARS
AGO, WHERE INTEREST GROUPS CAME
FORWARD AND SAID, WE WANT TO
AMEND THIS IN EACH HARDER SO
THAT ALL TAXES, INCLUDING
GENERAL TAXES ARE GOING TO BE A
TWO THIRDS VOTE. AND OUR POLICE
AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND CITY
WORKERS AND OTHERS THAT ARE
ENGAGED IN CIVIC SAID WAIT A
MINUTE. SOMETHING'S IMBALANCED
HERE. SOMETHING'S NOT FAIR. AND
SO THEY PUT A COUNTERMEASURE
FORWARD. THAT SAID, LOOK, IF YOU
WANT TO RAISE IN OUR CITY
CHARTER, SOMETHING TO A
SUPERMAJORITY VOTE SHOW THAT YOU
HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF
SUPERMAJORITY SUPPORT AND THAT
PASSED BY THE VOTERS THAT IS
STILL ON THE BOOKS TODAY, THEY
HAVE NEVER TRIED THAT
GAMESMANSHIP AGAIN. AND SO AND I
HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IN THE CITY
OF SAN DIEGO. PROP 13 IS ALIVE
AND WELL, SO ALL THESE ARGUMENTS
FALL FLAT, AND WHAT THIS DOES IS
AGAINST STOP THAT CYCLE OF
GAMESMANSHIP AND ALLOWS US IN A
VERY DEMOCRATIC WAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE PROTECTING RETAINING
THE MAJORITY VOTE AND GIVING THE
VOTERS THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO
SAY THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT'S
SENDING THIS MEASURE FORWARD. TO
THEM WOULD BE A TO ALLOW THEM TO
DO SO. WITH THAT. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE ON THE 13
SENDING MEMBER. SO THE MOTION IS
THAT A C A 13 BE ADOPTED AS
AMENDED, AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SENATORS GLASER GLASER, I WHEN,
WHEN? NO ALAN MCGUIRE. MEMBER
MENJIVAR. AYE, NEWMAN. HAMBURG.
ALRIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT
MEASURE ON CALL FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SIR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO A SEE A ONE BY
ASSEMBLYWOMAN AGUIAR-CURRY. SHE
IS HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM.
WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. YOU
MAY BEGIN WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND SENATORS.
I'D LIKE TO START BY THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS
LEGISLATION INITIATIVE WHILE
WE'RE ALL WORKING SO HARD TO
WRAP UP THE ENDS OF SESSION.
TODAY. I'M PRESENTING A ONE A
LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVE, WHICH
WILL SIMPLY ASK OUR STATE'S
VOTERS IF THEY WOULD LOWER THE
VOTE THRESHOLD FOR LOCAL
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS FROM TWO
THIRDS TO A 55% SUPERMAJORITY.
AS A REMINDER OF 55% IS THE SAME
VOTE THRESHOLD APPROVED BY THE
CALIFORNIA VOTERS FOR LOCAL
SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION BONDS. OUR
STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE
UNDER ENORMOUS PRESSURE TO
ADDRESS ONGOING CRISIS WITH
HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. A SEE
A ONE FIRST NEEDS TO GET THE
SUPPORT OF STATEWIDE VOTERS. IF
APPROVED, IT WOULD THEN HERMIT.
LET ME REPEAT THAT HERMIT, THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SEEK LOCAL
VOTER APPROVAL FOR THE LOCAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THEY NEED TO
SUPPORT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
LET'S FACE IT, STATE AND FEDERAL
DOLLARS ALONE WILL NEVER BE ABLE
TO FUND EVERY LOCAL
INFRASTRUCTURE PRIORITY, IN FACT
, PREVENTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
FROM INVESTING ON LOCAL
PRIORITIES THEY CHOOSE DOES NOT
MAKE THOSE PRIORITIES DISAPPEAR.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A HOUSE THAT YOU
CANNOT HAVE HOUSING WITHOUT
ROADS AND SEWERS AND PUBLIC
SAFETY FACILITIES AND APPROVING
ONE WILL PROVIDE THE MOST
ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT METHOD
IN OUR STATE FOR DOING SO. A C
ONE IS EQUIPPED WITH HISTORIC
AND UNPRECEDENTED ACCOUNTABILITY
AND TRANSPARENCY MEASURES. THE
INITIATIVE REQUIRES A SPECIFIC
EXPENDITURE PLAN, A CITIZEN'S
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WHOSE
MEMBERS WERE RECEIVED TRAINING
TO OVERSEE EXPENDITURES UNDER
THE LOCAL INITIATIVE. IT WILL
HAVE AN ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND
FINANCIAL AUDITS REVIEWED BY THE
STATE AUDITOR TO ASSURE
ACCURACY. IT WOULD PROHIBIT
GENERAL PUBLIC OPERATIONS AND
PUBLIC SALARIES FROM BEING PAID
FOR BY AN A ONE INITIATIVE AND
CAPS THE COST OF LOCAL
ADMINISTRATION OF THE INITIATIVE
AT 5. THEY SAY WHEN ALSO
REQUIRES OUR PROCEEDS BE BE
SPENT SERVING THE COMMUNITY PRO
APPROVING THE LOCAL MEASURE. AND
IT REQUIRES ALL PROCEEDS BE
COMMITTED TO THE PROJECTS IN THE
EXPENDITURE PLAN BEFORE ANOTHER
DAY, ONE INITIATIVE CAN BE
PROPOSED TO LOCAL VOTERS. A SEE
. A ONE WILL NOT ONLY EMPOWER
OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO ADDRESS
THEIR LOCAL PRIORITIES. IT
PROTECTS VOTERS AND HOLDS LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS FISCALLY
ACCOUNTABLE. SO I ASKED YOU
TODAY. PLEASE DON'T BUY THE
FALSE CHOICE THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW
PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, MEET THE
HOUSING CRISIS, SHELTER THE IN
HOUSE AND PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY FOR FREE. IT IS SIMPLY
DISINGENUOUS TO SAY YOU SUPPORT
SOLUTIONS TO THOSE PROBLEMS, BUT
OPPOSED THE STATE TAXES AND
BONDS OPPOSED DEVELOPER FEES
OPPOSED UPLAND CITIZENS,
INITIATIVES THAT CAN CAN APPROVE
THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECTS IN A
SAY ONE, BUT AT 50% AND WITH NO
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES AND A
POST GENERAL TAXES AT 50, WITH
NO LIST OF EXPENDITURES. NO
LIMITS ON ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS
AND NO AUDITS OR CITIZEN
OVERSIGHT. SENATORS NO IS NO TO
EVERYTHING IS NOT GOOD PUBLIC
POLICY POSITION. I'M HONORED TO
BE JOINED THIS THIS MORNING BY
CINDY SILVA, MAYOR OF WALNUT
CREEK AND IMMEDIATE PAST
PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES. AND DOUG
SUPER'S DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL
AFFAIRS FOR THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS. THANK
YOU, ASSEMBLYWOMAN AND WE'LL
FOLLOW OUR RULES. TWO MINUTES
FOR EACH SPEAKER. MAYOR SILVA
WELCOME. GOOD MORNING, SENATOR
GLAZER AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M WALNUT CREEK
MAYOR CINDY SILVA AND I'M HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES AS I AM THEIR
IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT HOW
CITIES IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE AND
ADVOCATE FOR CALIFORNIA'S 482
CITIES AND BY EXTENSION, WHERE
THE ADVOCATE FOR THE NEARLY 33
MILLION PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK
IN OUR CITIES. AS CITIES. WE
KNOW WE ARE THE ECONOMIC ENGINES
OF CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER WE ALSO
KNOW THAT TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY
SAFE AND OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES
WORKING, WE MUST CONTINUE TO
INVEST IN CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR STREETS
AND BRIDGES. IN OUR STORM DRAINS
AND OUR WATER SYSTEMS. FURTHER
WE KNOW THAT OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES
WORK BEST WHEN OUR RESIDENTS ARE
WORKFORCES HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO
CALL HOME. WE MUST INVEST IN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UNFORTUNATELY TO DO ALL OF THIS
TO CONTINUE TO BE THE ECONOMIC
ENGINES OF OUR STATE, LOCAL
GOVERNMENT NEEDS MORE TOOLS TO
HELP FINANCE CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. THAT'S WHY CAL CITIES
STRONGLY SUPPORTS A ONE A SEE A
ONE WILL GIVE CALIFORNIA VOTERS
A CHANCE TO DO FOR CITIES,
COUNTIES AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS
WHAT THEY DID FOR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS. JUST OVER 20 YEARS
AGO, A SEE A ONE WILL MAKE IT
POSSIBLE FOR ALL LEVELS OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENTS
CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE TO HAVE
THE SAME TOOLS TO ADDRESS
COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND
HOUSING NEEDS. A SEE A ONE CAN
CREATE PARODY. TIME AND AGAIN
CALIFORNIA VOTERS HAVE
DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THEIR PAST
SUPPORT FOR SCHOOL HOUSING AND
WATER BONDS THAT IT'S SMART TO
INVEST IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
SO LET'S GIVE CALIFORNIA VOTERS
THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE LET'S
HELP TO EMPOWER THEM SO THEY CAN
IMPROVE THEIR COMMUNITIES.
PLEASE PLEASE VOTE. YES ON A C A
ONE. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. MAYOR SILVA WILL NEXT
INVITE UP. DOUG SUPERS SHARE HIS
TESTIMONY. WELCOME THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND SENATORS AND IT WAS
DUG SUPERS AND I'M HERE TODAY ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS IN
SUPPORT OF A ONE AT THE OUTSET,
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR HER ONGOING WORK AND
COMMITMENT TO THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE. IN CALIFORNIA. THE ODDS
ARE PRETTY GOOD THAT RESIDENTS
LIVE IN A DANGER ZONE, WHETHER
IT'S EARTHQUAKE, WILDFIRE OR
FLOOD. THE WAY WE ANSWERED THE
CALL IN CALIFORNIA'S THROUGH OUR
WORLD CLASS MUTUAL AID RESPONSE
SYSTEM. THAT CRITICAL SYSTEM
DEPENDS ON HAVING ROBUST AND
EFFECTIVE LOCAL FIRE, EMS AND
DISASTER RESPONSE THROUGHOUT THE
STATE, BUT OUR LOCAL FIRE
DEPARTMENTS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE
WITH TIGHT BUDGETS IN DANGEROUS
THREAT LEVELS. IN MANY
JURISDICTIONS, LOCAL VOTERS HAVE
MADE THEIR PRIORITIES KNOWN BY
STEPPING UP TO SUPPORT LOCAL
MEASURES TO ENSURE AND SECURE
PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING. BUT
OVERALL, THE ABILITY TO GET
DEDICATED ACCOUNTABLE. REVENUE
DIRECTED TO CRITICAL PUBLIC
SAFETY IS STYMIED BY THE TWO
THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT. FOR
EXAMPLE, IN 2020, A SPECIAL TAX
TO SUPPORT DISASTER ON FIRE
SERVICES AND SONOMA COUNTY
FAILED WITH 64.8% OF THE VOTE.
PARCEL TAX TO FUND FIRE AND EMS
SERVICES FOR HIGGINS FIRE
DISTRICT IN NEVADA COUNTY
RECEIVED 58.3% OF THE VOTE AND
FAILED. THE FAILURE OF THIS
MEASURE ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN
THE DISTRICT, LAYING OFF SIX
FULL TIME POSITIONS, KEEPING
ONLY 32 OF THEIR THREE FIRE
STATIONS OPEN AT A TIME AND AS A
RESULT, RESPONSE TIMES DOUBLE
IT'S TIME TO GIVE THE VOTERS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE THAT
TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT. ONE
DOES NOT RAISE OR APPROVE A
SINGLE TAX. IT SIMPLY GIVES
VOTERS A CHANCE TO DECIDE
WHETHER TO CHANGE THE VOTE
THRESHOLD ON THESE TYPES OF
SPECIAL TAXES AND BOND MEASURES
. ULTIMATELY A SEE A ONE GIVES
CALIFORNIA VOTERS GREATER
CONTROL OVER HOW THEIR LOCAL TAX
REVENUES ARE RAISED AND SPENT
AND MAKES US BETTER ABLE TO MEET
THE CHALLENGES WE FACE FOR THESE
REASONS. I RESPECTFULLY URGE
YOUR SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE
GOING TO NOW PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM TO PUT
THEIR NAME AND AFFILIATION, IF
ANY, ON THE RECORD IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. PLEASE STEP ON UP AND
GOOD MORNING NICK CRUZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS RAND MARTIN ON BEHALF OF
THE AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION,
AND IT'S HEALTHY HOUSING
FOUNDATION DIVISION AND VARIOUS
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. MORNING MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ANDRES RAMIREZ ON BEHALF
OF THE TRI VALLEY CITIES OF
DUBLIN, LIVERMORE, PLEASANT AND
DANVILLE AND CENTER MOAN AS WELL
AS ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES OF
FREMONT. HALF MOON BAY, SOLEDAD
FARMERS VEILED TO LITERARY AND
THE CITY OF OAKLAND. ALL IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING TURN MEMBERS CARLY
SHELBY ON BEHALF OF THE SERIES
OF EMERYVILLE, PALO ALTO AND
KINGSBURG IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. IS HE STILL NOT ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF
SAN FRANCISCO AND THE MARINE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? OAN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
KYRA ROSS WILL BE HALF OF THE
CITY OF GLENDALE AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
JESSICA WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SCHOOL EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT GOOD MORNING CHAIR TIM
CREMINS INTERNATIONAL OF
OPERATING ENGINEERS AND FULL
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
, MR CHAIR MEMBERS. LUCAS FORKS
, YOLO COUNTY SUPERVISOR ON
BEHALF OF YOLO COUNTY. THANK
YOU. SUPPORT OF 81. JULIE
SNYDER, REPRESENTING THE
ASSOCIATION OF BARRIER
GOVERNMENTS AND METROPOLITAN
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ALYSSA STILL HIGH ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
RECREATION AND PARK DISTRICTS
AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES
OF BELMONT, REDWOOD CITY IN
SANTA ROSA. AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING. SCOTT'S HERE
WITH DESERT RECREATION DISTRICT,
COACHELLA VALLEY IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MELISSA BB
REGISTERED NURSE AND YELLOW KAMI
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BRIAN MARY
MONTEZ, BUT ASKED ME CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT GOOD MORNING, ERIC
LAUREN BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES
AND STRONG SUPPORT YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MARTIN RADOSEVIC ON
BEHALF OF SANTA CLARA VALLEY
WATER DISTRICT AND HABITAT FOR
HUMANITY AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MORNING JEAN HEARST
ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN COUNTIES
OF CALIFORNIA AND THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF
SANTA CLARA IN SPORT. GOOD
MORNING, MARCUS DETWEILER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MISS SHOTWELL
COVER WITH NIELSEN, MERKSAMER
AND I'M REPRESENTING YOLO COUNTY
, CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AND THE
AMERICAN COUNCIL OF ENGINEERING
COMPANIES OF CALIFORNIA ALL IN
SUPPORT. OKAY? GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS CRISTINA
DICARO, REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA LIBRARY ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, MR.
CHAIR MARK FINSTER, MAKER FOR
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS
AND STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING
, STEVE WALLICK ON BEHALF OF THE
NAPA VALLEY TRANSPORTATION
AUTHORITY AND THE ALAMEDA CONTRA
COSTA TRANSIT DISTRICT AND
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING NATALIE'S
FEEDBACK ON BEHALF OF HOUSING,
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING, GRAZIELLA CASSIO KRINGS
ON BEHALF OF ENTERPRISE
COMMUNITY PARTNERS, SILICON
VALLEY AT HOME ACTION FUND AND
ALL HOME AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. ABRAM
DEALS WITH THE NONPROFIT HAS AN
ASSOCIATION AND CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. MARK'S DIVERS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
IN SUPPORT. MARY ELLEN SHAKE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF LOCAL
HOUSING FINANCE AGENCIES AND
SUPPORT. TIFFANY MARK ON BEHALF
OF CFT AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
YOUR BANANA BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA. AMBIEN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. JENNIFER ARE MEANT TO
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING
CONSORTIUM AND SUPPORT MORNING
CHAIR AND MEMBERS GALEN DOBBINS
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COALITION
FOR RURAL HOUSING AND STRONG
SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN, SENATORS
TERRY BRENNAN AND HALF OF FC IU,
CALIFORNIA OVER 700,000 WORKERS
AND TAXPAYERS IN CALIFORNIA. MR
CHAIR MEMBERS. BEVERLY YOU ON
BEHALF OF STATE BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL. WE
ARE PROUD COSPONSOR OF THIS BILL
IS TRYING TO SUPPORT THANK YOU.
MORNING, MR. CHAIR MATT ROBINSON
. SORRY ABOUT THAT, WITH
SCHEIDER ANTWI SMELLS AND LAYING
ON BEHALF OF CALTRAIN SAN MATEO
COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT, THE SAN
MATEO CITY COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF
GOVERNMENT. MONTEREY SALINAS
TRANSIT AND THE SOLANO
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY ISLAND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
. SHARON MEMBERS. JAMES
THURWACHTER ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL OF
LABORERS, AND WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANKS. GOOD MORNING,
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS MICHAEL
PIMENTEL HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT ASSOCIATION
IN REPRESENTING OUR 220 MEMBER
ORGANIZATIONS IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. JAMIE MINOR ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STORMWATER
QUALITY ASSOCIATION. PLEASED TO
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, AMY BROWN ON BEHALF OF
THE CITIES OF LONG BEACH IN WEST
SACRAMENTO IN SUPPORT ALRIGHT.
UH. LAST CALL. ANYONE HERE WANT
TO PUT THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD
AND SUPPORT SEEING NINE. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO OPPOSITION INVITE
UP OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. AGAIN.
TWO MINUTES TWO SPEAKERS.
WELCOME, SIR. THANK YOU,
CHAIRMAN GLASER. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M JON COUPAL. I'M
PRESIDENT OF THE HOWARD JOBS
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION. AMENDING
ARTICLE 13 A OF THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION, ONE CONSTITUTES A
DIRECT ATTACK ON PROPOSITION 13
THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE. A ONE
OPENS THE FLOODGATES TO HIGHER
TAXES BY CUTTING THE VOTE
THRESHOLD NEEDED TO PASS SPECIAL
TAXES FROM TWO THIRDS DOWN TO
55% THE LOSS OF THAT IMPORTANT
PROTECTION IN PROP 13. MEANS
THAT STRUGGLING TAXPAYERS WILL
BE HIT WITH HIGHER LOCAL TAXES
AGAIN AND AGAIN AFTER EVERY
ELECTION, A ONE IS NOT
NECESSARY, ACCORDING TO THE
LEAGUE OF CITIES FROM 20 01 2018
51% OF CITY TAX MEASURES WITH A
TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT
REACHED THAT THRESHOLD AND
PASSED BECAUSE CITIES WERE ABLE
TO PERSUADE TWO THIRDS OF THEIR
VOTERS TO APPROVE THOSE TAXES.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED HERE THAT ALL
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SPECIAL
TAXES, GENERAL TAXES CAN AND DO
PASS WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY. IN
FACT, IN THAT SAME PERIOD, ALL
LOCAL TAX MEASURES PASSED BY 70.
BUT BUT FOR A SEE A ONE
PROPONENTS THAT'S NOT GOOD
ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE SATISFIED
AND THEY WANT NEW AND HIGHER
TAXES MUST PASS EVERY TIME. THIS
MINDSET IS WHY PROPOSITION 13
WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND
WHY THEY CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE
IMPORTANT TWO THIRDS VOTE
PROTECTION. THIS IS EVIDENCED BY
PASSAGE OF ADDITIONAL TAXPAYER
PROTECTIONS LIKE PROP 60 TO 1986
TO 18 AND 1996, AND MORE
RECENTLY PROP 26 AND 2010. THE
DAMAGE INFLICTED ON TAXPAYERS
FROM A ONE IS NOT LIMITED TO
PROPOSITION 13, AND THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT POINT. IT ALSO REPEALS
THE REQUIREMENT THAT LOCAL BONDS
, REPAID ONLY BY PROPERTY OWNERS
NEED A TWO THIRDS ABOUT LOCAL
ELECTORATE. THAT REQUIREMENT HAS
BEEN IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION
SINCE 18 79 THE LOGIC BEHIND A
TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT FOR
SPECIAL TAXES IS THE SAME. WHILE
EVERYONE CAN VOTE ON SPECIAL
TAXES, THEY ARE OFTEN PAID ONLY
BY PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGH
PERSONAL TAXES, BONDS. IN
PROPERTY RELATED ASSESSMENTS.
TWO THIRDS SUPERMAJORITY VOTE
REQUIREMENTS HAVE A STRONG
CONSTITUTIONAL FOUNDATION. THE
UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
ITSELF REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS
VOTE FOR MANY ACTIONS, SUCH AS
APPROVAL OF INTERNATIONAL
TREATIES. SUPERMAJORITY VOTE
REQUIREMENTS ARE RESERVED FOR
IMPORTANT MATTERS. IN FACT, THE
LEAGUE OF CITIES OWN BYLAWS.
REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY
VOTE. TO RAISE ITS DUES. THAT
MAKES SENSE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES
GOING TO RAISE WHO'S ON ITS
MEMBERS THAT MAKE CONSTITUTING
FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. THEREFORE,
THEY REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY IN
CONCLUSION. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE
THAT IT HAS BEEN ARGUED THAT THE
U. S. A ONE DOES NOT RAISE
TAXES. IT JUST PUTS THE QUESTION
BEFORE THE VOTERS. LET'S BE
CLEAR. A SEE A ONE IS A VOTE FOR
HIGHER TAXES, AND THEY VOTE
AGAINST PROPOSITION 13. I ASK
THAT YOU ALL REJECT A SEE A ONE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. IS
THERE ANOTHER PRIMARY SPEAKER?
PAUL DID GO OVER, SO THERE'S
ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A MINUTE
LEFT IN THE TIME. GOOD MORNING
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, PETER BLOCKER
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION AND A
BROAD COALITION OF INDIVIDUAL
BUSINESS TAXPAYERS IN OPPOSITION
TO THE ONE WE BELIEVE PROP THEIR
TEAMS, TWO THIRDS VOTE
THRESHOLDS AND PROTECTION FOR
TAXPAYERS AND PREVENTING
EXCESSIVE TAXATION. AND THAT
IT'S A PROTECTION THAT SHOULD
NOT BE WEAKENED. SHE COMES AS NO
SURPRISE THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CONCERNS WE HEAR FROM TAXPAYERS
IS THE RISING COST OF LIVING IN
CALIFORNIA. WE THINK A C ONE
WILL WORSEN THIS PROBLEM AND
MAKE THE STATE LESS AFFORDABLE.
WE VOTE FOR A C AND ONE HAS BEEN
CHARACTERIZED AS NOT BEING A
VOTE TO INCREASE TAXES, HOWEVER,
NOT ONLY DO WE DISAGREE WITH
THIS, BUT WE BELIEVE IT IS
ARGUABLY SOMETHING WORSE.
ACCORDING TO LOCAL LOCAL
ELECTION DATA AND PAST
ELECTIONS. A C A ONE WILL LIKELY
INCREASE TAXES BY MORE THAN A
QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS EVERY
ELECTION CYCLE. AND WE BELIEVE
THAT THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE
ESTIMATE. THE TAX IS AFFECTED BY
WANNA REGRESSIVE TAXES AND
PROPERTY TAXES ARE NOT BASED ON
THEY'RE NOT BASED ON A PERSON'S
ABILITY TO PAY, SO WHEN THESE
TAXES FAIL, IT'S OFTEN BECAUSE
OF PEOPLE OFTEN VOTED AGAINST BY
PEOPLE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT.
HIGHER SALES TAXES CAUSED A
SIGNIFICANT COST OF
MANUFACTURING. UM AS IT IS
LAYERED ONTO EVERY STAGE OF
PRODUCTION. THIS ALSO APPLIES
THE HOMEBUILDING SALES TAXES ARE
IMPOSED ON BUILDING MATERIALS,
WHICH IN TURN INCREASED THE
OVERALL COST OF HOME
CONSTRUCTION. HIGHER PROPERTY
TAXES INCREASED THE BURDEN OF
HOMEOWNERSHIP MAKES OWNER OWNING
AND RUNNING HOMES LESS
AFFORDABLE. PROPONENTS OF A SEE
A ONE HAVE ARGUED THAT THIS
MEASURE IS NECESSARY BECAUSE IT
IS TOO DIFFICULT TO PASS TAXES
IN CALIFORNIA. WHEN YOU COMPARE
CALIFORNIA'S TAX RATES AGAINST
THOSE IN OTHER STATES, THIS IS
NOT A APPEAR TO BE THE CASE.
CALIFORNIA SALES TAX RATES ARE
AMONG THE HIGHEST NATION AND
ALAMEDA COUNTY TAXPAYERS PAY
SALES TAX RATES AS HIGH AS
10.75. LÀ COUNTY. MOST RESIDENTS
PAY SALES TAX RATE OF TWO POINT
OR 10.25. A C ONE WOULD MAKE IT
EASIER FOR TAX RATES LIKE THEY
USED TO GO UP STATEWIDE. YOU CAN
SUMMARIZE, PLEASE, I FINALLY
I'LL JUST SAY THAT THAT THIS
MEASURE IS BEING PUSHED THROUGH
THE SENATE AND OVER THE COURSE
OF FOUR DAYS WOULD NOT BELIEVE
THAT LEGISLATION. MAGNITUDE
SHOULD BE RUSHED WHEN THERE ARE
NO DEADLINES, PREVENTING IT FROM
BEING HEARD NEXT YEAR. FOR THESE
REASONS, WE URGE YOU TO NOT
APPROVE THE MEASURE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOING TO
GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE
WHO ARE HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM
TO PUT THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE.
AND YOU CAN BEGIN GORGEOUS ON
BEHALF OF THE FAMILY BUSINESS
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. PRESTON YOUNG
FROM THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE HERE TODAY IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. LAWRENCE
GAIN WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MATTHEW
HART GROUP AT THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION
, REPRESENTING THE EIGHT LOCAL
BOMA ASSOCIATIONS, THE SIX LOCAL
KNEECAP ASSOCIATIONS AND ICSC IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. MEGAN LOPER ON BEHALF OF
THE UNITED HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION
AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
VANESSA CHAVEZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS AND OPPOSE A LESSON
UNDER POSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM? OKAY, LET'S GO TO
OUR PHONE LINES. WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE THE SAME. PARAMETERS AS WE
HAD FOR THE EARLIER MEASURE,
WE'RE GOING TO SET ASIDE 15
MINUTES FOR COLLARS TO PUT THEIR
NAME ON THE RECORD IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. TO A SEE A ONE JUST
JUST THEIR NAME AND AFFILIATION
IF ANY SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU CAN BEGIN THANK
YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU
MAY PRESS 10. IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO COMMENT. WE WILL GO TO LINE 2
61, YOU MAY GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
EVA MAYOR. I'M A CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS SINCE 1966 AND
HOMEOWNER IN RIVERSIDE SINCE
1985 VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED. TO ONE
NEXT WE GO TO LINE 2 56. BLIND
TO 56. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. WE WILL MOVE ON TO
2 83. GOOD MORNING, KATE
FLATTISH OF THE NONPARTISAN
DEMOCRACY WINTERS IN STRONG
SUPPORT. NEXT IS LINE 203. MM
HMM. LINE 203, YOU ARE OPEN. YOU
MAY GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING,
KAREN MEMBERS. THIS IS SHARON
REPORT WAS CORPORATION FOR
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
105. THERE ARE ROWS LEGAL WOMEN
VOTERS. A CALIFORNIA IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
201. YES GOOD MORNING, MRS ROTH
COMMON COLD, CALLING IN STRONG
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THE NBA
ACTION IN OUR 19 CHAPTERS AND OF
INCLUDING THE MB MOUNTAIN OF
UNION BE NORTHERN NEIGHBORS
PENINSULA FOR EVERYONE IN
FRANCE, ITALIAN BE SANTA CRUZ
AND BE SANTA ROSA. UM, BE THEM
WITH THE BASEBALL COUNTY NB
URBAN ENVIRONMENTALISTS.
BROTHER, RICHMOND, VENTURA
COUNTY AND BE REACHED FOR PEOPLE
OUTSIDE FORWARD BIÂU PEOPLE FOR
HOUSING. THE NBA AND ADAPTABLE
ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE GO TO 68. HELLO. MY NAME
IS CAROL. OKAY, CALIFORNIA. I AM
AGAINST THIS MOVEMENT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT IS LINE 303.
LINE, 303 GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING
, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS SYLVIA
SALISH ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
SANTA MONICA AND THE CITY OF
WEST HOLLYWOOD AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE 3 11. MY
NAME IS RON BELL, CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYER AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
ONE. NEXT IS LINE 3 33. MORNING,
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS WERE TOP
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SAN
DIEGO AND SUPPORT NEXT IS LINE
301. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
INGA LAWRENSON DORMER. I MUST
FIXED INCOME SENIOR CITIZEN HOME
OWNER AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED A C
A ONE. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
THREE PEN. I'M DAVID WATSON.
HOMEOWNER CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
AND MAN DO YOU REMEMBER IN
SUPPORT? NEXT IS LINE 3 14. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS RYAN JOY AND THE MEMBER
OF HOUSE SACRAMENTO AND A
RESIDENT OF DAVIS, CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF A ONE NEXT IN LINE TO
90. HI. THIS IS BOBBY GARRITY
FROM REDLANDS AND CALIFORNIA AND
BE CALLING IN SUPPORT OF A SEE A
ONE. NEXT IS 300. GOOD MORNING.
TRACY RYAN, RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVE, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. NEXT IS 3 49. YES THIS
IS EVEN I LIVE IN. I AM A
TAXPAYER AND A HOMEOWNER AND I
THINK IS THE A ONE IS A
FANTASTIC IDEA. AND I'M CALLING
ON BEHALF OF MOVE L. A NEXT IS
LINE 3 30. YES MY NAME IS ELLIOT
GETTLEMAN. I'M A RETIRED FIRE
PROTECTION ENGINEER, TAXPAYER
AND RESIDENT OF SAN FRANCISCO
AND STRONGLY OPPOSED TO 18 1 AS
THIS WILL GREATLY INCREASED
TAXES ON HOMEOWNERS. NEXUS 3 51.
LINE 3 51, YOU ARE OPEN. YOU MAY
GO AHEAD. CHAIRMAN WE'RE BEING
HERE REPRESENTING INCLUSIVE YET
AND THE CONTRA COPS THE YOUNG
DEMOCRATS. WE ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. NEXT IS LINE 3 73. MY NAME
IS ADAM BOOKBINDER AND THE
TAXPAYER AND THE HOMEOWNER.
PARENTS WILL WORKER UH TODAY AND
I AM IN SUPPORT OF HD A ONE.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS 3 70. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS MARK WATTS.
INSTITUTION CALIFORNIA AND A
BROAD COALITION OF THE
TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY. IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT IS 3
57. THIS IS SANDRA KING TAXPAYER
OPPOSED. NEXT IS BLIND TO 58. HI
MY NAME IS BRENDA DOMAN
REPRESENTS FAMILIES AND HOMETOWN
, JOSE AND WE ARE APPROACHING A
ONE AND A 13. THANK YOU. NEXT IS
LINE 1 60. LINE 1 60, YOU ARE
OPEN. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WE WILL
MOVE ON TO LINE 2 79. HI. HELLO.
MY NAME IS VICTOR RAISIN AND YES
, VICTORY IS AND I'M CALLING
FROM THE VALLEY INDUSTRY AND
COMMERCE ASSOCIATION, UH,
CALLING AN OPPOSITION TO SEE A
13 AND A C A ONE. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE ARE ON THE LINE. 1 52.
DEBORAH OLSON, TAXPAYER IN
OPPOSITION. NEXT WE GO TO 1 49.
GOOD MORNING, DAVID AS A BETA
WITH AARP, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. NEXT WE GO TO 2 31.
GOOD MORNING. THIS IS MISTY. I'M
A MEMBER OF THE HOWARD JARVIS
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION, AND I'M
VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO A C A ONE
AND A 13. MEXICO TO LINE 53.
YES. LINE 53 YOU ARE OPEN. YES
THIS IS JENNY'S DANE FROM SANTA
MONICA RENTER'S RIGHTS, UM,
URGING YOU TO SUPPORT A SEE A.
ONE NEXT WE GO TO LINE 1 80.
HELLO. HELLO. SOMEONE THERE. WE
CAN HEAR YOU. WE CAN HEAR YOU.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE. OKAY THIS IS
MARIA RODRIGUEZ OPPOSED TO A C A
13 AND A C A ONE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
IS LINE 305. PLEASE SIT DOWN.
THE TAX CARE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN
LIKE CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE TO 98. MY
NAME IS ROBERT RIZZI. I'M IN
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER HERE IN
RIVERSIDE COUNTY, AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE A C A ONE AND A C A 13.
NEXT IS LINE TO 23. HELLO. GO
AHEAD. NO. HELLO. GO AHEAD. CAN
YOU HEAR ME? YES. OH OKAY. THANK
YOU. THIS IS NO ME, HARPER. AND
UH, CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER. I BOTH
OPPOSED BOTH 80 A ONE AND A C A
13. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE TO
97. 2 97. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WE
WILL MOVE ON TO LINE 2 85. MY
NAME IS SHARON CRAMER, A
LIFELONG CALIFORNIA RESIDENT,
FINDING IT FOR UNAFFORDABLE FOR
ALL MY FAMILY. I'M STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO A C A ONE AND A C A
13. NEXT IS LINE 3 83. THIS IS
MIKE FRIEDA. I'M A SELF EMPLOYED
TAXPAYER HERE IN CALIFORNIA, AND
THEY STRONGLY OPPOSE A SEE A ONE
AT A C A 13. THANK YOU. NEXT WE
GO TO LINE 2 41. LINE 2 41. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. YOU MAY GO AHEAD.
HELLO. GO AHEAD. HELLO. YOU MAY
GO AHEAD. HELLO. THROUGH YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. WE CAN HEAR YOU.
YOU MAY GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR
TRACY SIZE FOR? YEAH, WE CAN
HEAR YOU. JUST YOUR NAME AND
YOUR POSITION, PLEASE, SIR? YES
RETIRED CIVIL SERVANT PROPERTY
TAX OWNER HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY
AND OPPOSITION. HE WANT A C 13.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GOOD
MORNING. THANK YOU. YOU TOO.
NEXT IS LINE 3 60. CAROL MORGEN
, RETIRED CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER
AND HOMEOWNER. I STRONGLY
OPPOSED A C ONE AND A C 13.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO TO 3 54.
MY NAME IS MARSHA FAIR PROBLEMS.
I AM A TAXPAYER. I FINALLY
OPPOSED. NEXT 3 46. MY NAME IS
JIM HATHAWAY, TAXPAYER IN
CALIFORNIA. AND STRONGLY OPPOSED
A CH 15 80 A ONE. THANK YOU.
NEXT IS 1 87. 1 87. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WE WILL
MOVE ON TO LINE 3 48. TRUDY
CONNOR CALDERON. LATER,
ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO A SEE A 13
AND A C A ONE. THANK YOU. NEXT
CALLER, PLEASE. WE'RE ONLY
DISCUSSING A ONE FOR THOSE WHO
ARE ON THE PHONE LINES. THANK
YOU. NEXT IS 3 78 CHECK. PACEY
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER. I OPPOSE.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS 3 45. HELLO.
WE CAN HEAR YOU. YES. GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH. SO GIRLS ARE
STRONGLY OPPOSED. GREAT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. 3 35. 3 35. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. YOU MAY GO AHEAD.
HELLO? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. GO
AHEAD, GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
MICHELLE TOMLIN, CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS. DONNELLY OPPOSED A
SEE A ONE A 30. GREAT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
IS 3 80. THOMAS SMITH BLOCK OUT
. CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSED
THE A 13. NEXT IS 1 64. LINE 1
64, YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WE ALL
MOVE ON TO 3 86. YES GOOD
MORNING, JORDAN'S GRIMES ON
BEHALF OF THE GREENBELT ALLIANCE
, LIFELONG CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER
IN STRONG SUPPORT. UH SEE A ONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT IS 3 23.
HI. MY NAME IS MICHELLE FORTUNE
HOMEOWNER AND TAXPAYERS STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO ONE. NEXT IS 1 27.
RICHARD SANDERS. UH TAXPAYER,
SEND YOU COUNTY AND STRONGLY
OPPOSED A C A NUMBER ONE. THANK
YOU. NEXT IS 3 34. LINDA HILL.
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER STRONGLY
OPPOSED A ONE NEXT IS 3 52. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS IN ESCROW
DOLLARS, CALLING ON BEHALF OF
PUBLIC ADVOCATE IN SUPPORT OF A
ONE. THANK YOU. NEXT IS TO 69.
HI. MY NAME IS VIVIAN BARON
HOMEOWNER, FORMER PUBLIC SCHOOL
TEACHER. AND CALIFORNIA NATIVE
AND ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED. A C A
ONE. AND A 13 ONLY BECAUSE THE
MORE MONEY THAT SEEMS TO BE YOU,
MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
CALLER, PLEASE. 3 70. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE 3 76. YOU MAY GO
AHEAD. SUSAN PAPA, CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS AND HOMEOWNERS RETIRED
. IS 3 59. LORENA, LEGITIMATE
NATIVE CALIFORNIAN, CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYER AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE A
C EVERYONE. THANK YOU. 3 91. YOU
MAY GO AHEAD. MY NAME. FOR OF
THE BETTER. UBA TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION STRONGLY OPPOSING A
13 A SEE A ONE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MODERATOR WE'RE GONNA TAKE
ONE MORE CALL, AND WE'VE REACHED
OUR 15 MINUTE LIMIT. VERY GOOD.
THAT'S LINE 3 12. CROWN WITH
HOUSING MATTERS AND SANTA CRUZ
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE A ONE.
GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO
THAT'S GOING TO COMPLETE OUR
TELECONFERENCE TESTIMONY TODAY.
IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO GET
THROUGH ON THE PHONE LINES, WE
WELCOME YOUR INDICATION OF
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION TO THE
COMMITTEE INFORMATION AVAILABLE
ON OUR WEBSITE. ALRIGHT BEFORE
WE BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. I WANT TO ASKED THE
REPRESENTATIVE, THE REAL CHURCH
TO COME BACK UP AND CLARIFY HER
TESTIMONY EARLIER TODAY. WERE
YOU INDICATED YOU YOU WERE
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED AND
WANTED TO ASK IF YOU'D BE
COMFORTABLE SHARING SOME OF THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO
SEE IN THE MEASURE. SO VANESSA
CHAVEZ WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS. WHAT WE
WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A
LIMITATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF
SINGLE FAMILY ONE TO WONDER,
FOURTH, UH, PARCELS WITHIN THE
BILL. UM WITH THAT LANGUAGE
PROVIDED ON PAGE SEVEN LINE 10,
AS NOTED IN OUR LETTER, WE WOULD
REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION TO SEE ONE
RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S THE
ONLY THING YOU'RE ASKING. THAT'S
CORRECT. GOOD. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. VANESSA OKAY, WE'RE GOING
TO BRING IT BACK. I DID WANT TO
GIVE THE AUTHOR AN OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK TO THAT PARTICULAR
REQUEST. IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS
ABOUT I WANT TO AGREE WITH THE
REALTORS IS THAT WE WERE WORKING
WITH THEM. THAT CAME TO US A
LITTLE BIT LATE, LIKE LATE. AND
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
COULD, UM, HAVE THE DISCUSSION
ABOUT THE AMENDMENT THAT THEY
REQUESTED. UM AND THAT'S WHY WE
HAVE SOME CLEANUP LEGISLATION.
THEY SAY ONCE SO THAT WE CAN
WORK ON THINGS IN ADDITION TO SO
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE
REALTORS THAT WE DON'T WANT A C
ONE FUNNY TO COMPETE WITH
AVERAGE HOMEBUYERS. WE RECEIVE
LANGUAGE FROM THEM LAST NIGHT
WILL CONSULT WITH THE HOUSING
COMMITTEE AND CONSULTANTS FROM
THE OTHER APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES
WITH THE HOPE OF COMING TO AN
AGREEMENT, AND FOR THE RECORD,
IT IS MY INTENT TO REACH AN
AGREEMENT BASED ON THE
CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD AND I
FEEL LIKE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER
TO GET THAT SO MY INTENT IS TO
CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD AND I'M
HAPPY TO STATE FOR THE RECORD
THAT WE WILL WORK ON THIS
TOGETHER. AND THIS IS ON ON A
LIMITATION ON THE ACQUISITION OF
PARCELS OF 1 TO 4. THAT'S
CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY,
ALRIGHT. I WANT TO BRING THE
MATTER TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, MEMBERS
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, SENATOR
AMBERG. UM THANK YOU, MR. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. UM THANK YOU SO
MUCH. REMEMBER WE ARE CURRY FOR
YOUR WORK ON THIS ISSUE REALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUE A COUPLE OF
POINTS. ONE IS I UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS STILL PERMITS A MINORITY OF
VOTERS TO THWART THE WILL OF
MAJORITY OF VOTERS. OKAY NUMBER
ONE NUMBER TWO IS THAT ONE OF
THE TWO ITEMS OF GREAT INTEREST
TO ME PERSONALLY, AND I THINK TO
LEGISLATURES CARA CORD CARE
COURT IS THE PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE
FOR BASICALLY THE COURT TO, UM.
TO ORDER THINGS LIKE HOUSING
WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S
GETS A FRIEND, NICK AND OFTEN
HOMELESS. UM AS I UNDERSTAND
THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL IN TERMS
OF CREATING ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL TO ME PROVIDING
ADDITIONAL HOUSING, SO IT'S UP
TO THE AGAIN LIKE THE VOTERS HAD
TO BE SPECIFIC ON WHAT THEY
WANT, AND IT HAS TO GO TO THE
VOTERS, AND THEY CAN DETERMINE
IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEIR
COMMUNITY OR NOT. ALL RIGHT. AND
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER OF
CITIES HAVE SUPPORTED MY OWN
AREA. ANAHEIM BUENA PARK WENT UM
AND IRVINE HAVE ALL WEIGHED IN
IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE THEIR
NEED FOR ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UNDERSTANDING ALSO, IT
IS ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AND
APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT, OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. UM. SOME
REMEMBER. ONE OF THE CONCERNS
THAT HAD BEEN RAISED WAS THAT
THIS WAS THE LAST MINUTE BILL. I
HOLD UP THE BILL HERE AN ACTUAL
FORM. IT SAYS IT WAS INTRODUCED
ON DECEMBER 5TH 2022. WAS IT
SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM AS
WE'RE SEEING IT TODAY, WE'VE
ADDED A LOT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY
AND TRANSPARENCY ON THE BILL,
AND THAT WAS THE THINGS THAT
PEOPLE HAD ASKED US FOR BEFORE
AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, I TRIED
TO RUN THIS NUMEROUS TIMES, AND
WE JUST KEEP HONING IN ON WHAT
THEY ARE CONSTITUENTS OF ASKED
FOR SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A
LIST OF A MILLION THINGS OF WHAT
WE HAVE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE KEEP THE EXPENDITURES DOWN
THAT WE KEEP AN EYE ON IT. BUT
THE LOCALS GET TO BE PART OF THE
DECISION MAKING SO WE'VE REALLY
HONED IT DOWN. AND SO YES. IS IT
TIGHTER THAN IT WAS IN JANUARY
OR IN 2022? ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BUT I WAS REALLY THANK YOU FOR
SHARING THAT AND I WAS REALLY
TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT THAT
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST
CAME UP OUT OF THE BLUE THAT NO
ADVANCED THIS IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND THE BILL THAT WE'RE HEARING
TODAY IS A BILL THAT YOU
INTRODUCED LAST DECEMBER. THAT'S
CORRECT, ALTHOUGH YOU'VE
ENHANCED IT AS YOU MENTIONED AT
THE ESSENCE OF THE LOWERING THE
THRESHOLD IS SOMETHING THAT'S
BEEN ON THE RECORD FOR A WHILE,
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S
IMPORTANT TO ME IS TO MAKE SURE
I GET AS MANY VOICES AT THE
TABLE TO DISCUSS THIS AND THAT'S
WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND I'M REALLY
CONFIDENT AND I THINK THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLE LEGISLATION THAT'S
GOING TO HELP CHANGE OUR
COMMUNITIES. YESTERDAY, I SAT
DOWN WITH THE YOUNG MAN WHO IS
THE MAYOR OF MY LITTLE CITY, AND
HE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. AND
WHEN I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CRUMBS SIX
AND WINTERS. HOW ARE YOU GOING
TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? AND HE
JUST WENT. I DON'T KNOW. AND I
SAID WELL, THIS WILL GIVE US AN
OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THEIR
SEWER AND WATER SYSTEMS. AND SO
I THINK MANY COMMUNITIES ARE IN
THE SAME BOAT THAT I'M GONNA BE
THAT I AM IN MY LITTLE COMMUNITY
IS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS YOU
HAVE TO DEAL WITH THROUGH AND
WATER SO I APPRECIATE HEARING
THAT UM. A QUESTION HAS COME UP
AS TO AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
THERE'S A COMPANY LEGISLATION TO
PLACE THIS ON THE NOVEMBER
BALLOT. 2024 THAT'S CORRECT. SO
WHAT? HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THE
ISSUE THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED
TO ACT ON THIS TODAY? THIS COULD
BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK
ON. UH NEXT YEAR IN TIME FOR
THAT BALLOT AND ALLOW FOR
FURTHER CONVERSATIONS AND
POTENTIALLY COMPROMISES TO STILL
TAKE PLACE. IF WE DON'T MOVE ON
THIS NOW THERE IS AN INITIATIVE
PENDING OUT THERE. A GROUP OF
INDIVIDUALS WANT TO RUN AN
INITIATIVE AND THEY WOULD START
SIGNATURE GATHERING SOON.
PROBABLY BY THE END OF
SEPTEMBER. MY CONCERN IS THAT
WHEN WE HAVE LEGISLATION, WE
HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER IT. AND
WE CAN PUT IN THESE GUARDRAILS
AND SO THE INITIATIVE AND THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO DO
THAT ARE JUST SITTING ON THE
SIDELINES IN HOPES THAT THIS
WILL GET PAST RATHER THAN
RUNNING AN INITIATIVE. OKAY, SO
YOUR POINT OF VIEW, IT ALLOWS US
TO THE LEGISLATURES HAVE MORE
CONTROL OVER. THIS MEASURE AND
ANY ADJUSTMENTS OF THE MEASURES
, SO IN OTHER WORDS, AS YOU
CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THOSE WHO
HAVE CONCERNS, YOU WOULD BE IN A
POSITION TO AMEND THIS MEASURE
NEXT YEAR, ABSOLUTELY PRIOR TO
THE MEASURE BEING PLACED ON THE
BALLOT. ABSOLUTELY OKAY. ALL
RIGHT. WELL I HAVE APPRECIATED
ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT
WE'VE HAD ON THIS ISSUE. IT IS
NOT A NEW ISSUE. HEARD FROM
CERTAINLY WAS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT
OFFICIAL. UM AND, UH HAD TO DEAL
WITH THE HIGHER THRESHOLD FOR
SPECIAL TAXES. AND I KNOW UH HOW
THAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU
GET MORE THAN A MAJORITY AND
STILL NOT ABLE TO HAVE THAT TYPE
OF LOCAL CONTROL. AND FOR THOSE
WHO KNOW ME, THAT'S A VERY BIG
DEAL WITH ME. I THINK THAT WHILE
THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED AT
THIS RAISES TAXES, THIS MEASURE
IN AND OF ITSELF DOESN'T RAISE
ANYTHING. IT'S SIMPLY PLACES A
MEASURE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE
VOTERS TO DECIDE AND AT THE
VOTERS TO DECIDE TO LOWER THE
THRESHOLD THAT DOESN'T RAISE
TAXES, EITHER. IT'S GOING TO BE
A LOCAL CHOICE ON ANY ANY FUTURE
MEASURES TO WHETHER TAXES ARE
RAISED OR LOWERED. UM AND I FIND
THAT TO BE FAIRLY COMPELLING. I
ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU FOR
ALL THE OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS THAT
YOU PUT IN. I DON'T THINK I'VE
EVER SEEN A MEASURE THAT HAS
MORE OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS THAN
WHAT IS AN A C A ONE. AND I KNOW
THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR OWN DESIRE
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS HIGH
CONFIDENCE IN THE CHOICES THAT
ARE MADE. AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND
THE CHOICES THAT ARE MADE. THE
TRANSPARENCY WERE TAXES EVER TO
BE RAISED, AND SO IT'S FOR THOSE
REASONS AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION THAT I'M GOING TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY. THANK
YOU VERY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
FROM MEMBERS. LOOKING FOR A
MOTION. A SENATOR MENJIVAR HAS
MOVED THE BILL THIS WOULD BE
THAT THAT THE MEASURES BE
ADOPTED AND WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS YOU
WANT YOU WANT TO CLOSE I WILL
MAKE IT EASY AND SIMPLY ASKED
FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ALRIGHT THE SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS
GLASER GLASER I WHEN, WHEN? NO
ALAN MCGUIRE MCGUIRE I MEANT
OVER MENJIVAR. AYE, NEWMAN.
NUMBER NEWMAN NO HAMBURG,
HAMBURG. I PUT THAT MEASURE ON
CALL FOR AN ABSENT MEMBER. THANK
YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO
OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS A C, A SIX BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HANEY.
HE NEEDS.
HEY. SOMETHING, MAN. HANEY,
WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. CAN
BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. AND GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I AM HERE
TODAY TO PRESENT A C A SIX A
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT
WOULD ADDRESS BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS FOR THE OVER 200,000
PEOPLE WHO PERFORM WORK AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA ARE
STATES THIRD LARGEST EMPLOYER.
JUST LIKE ALL OF YOU. I AM A
HUGE SUPPORTER AND CHAMPION AND
BENEFICIARY OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA. I'M NOT ONLY A
GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY. I GREW UP
IN U C. STUDENT FAMILY HOUSING.
MY MOM WENT TO UC BERKELEY. MY
DAD HAS BEEN A PROFESSOR AT UC
SANTA CRUZ FOR OVER 50 YEARS. MY
SISTER WENT TO U. C DAVIS. I
SERVED FOR YEARS AS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UC STUDENT
ASSOCIATION AND CURRENTLY
REPRESENT TO UC CAMPUSES IN MY
DISTRICT. FIGHTING TO STRENGTHEN
AND SUPPORT THE èC ITS
STUDENTS. IT'S PATIENTS ITS
STAFF ITS MISSIONS. IMPACT IS IN
MY BLOOD. THIS CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT IS IN THAT TRADITION.
IT WAS STRENGTHEN THE UNIVERSITY
, ENSURING THAT IT CONTINUES TO
BE A BEACON OF OPPORTUNITY,
INNOVATION AND ADVANCEMENT FOR
ALL OF THE STATE'S RESIDENTS,
WHETHER THEY ATTEND COURSES
THERE, RECEIVE CARE THERE OR
RELY ON THE UNIVERSITY AS ONE OF
OUR STATE'S LARGEST EMPLOYERS.
RIGHT NOW. NEITHER THE GOVERNOR
NORTHEAST LEGISLATURE, INCLUDING
ANY OF US, AS ELECTED
REPRESENTATIVES, HAVE THE
EXECUTIVE OR LEGISLATIVE
AUTHORITY ON BEHALF OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS TO ENSURE BASIC
LABOR STANDARDS APPLY TO OR
ENFORCED AT THE èC. DUE TO 100
AND 50 YEAR OLD, OUTDATED
PROVISIONS OF THE STATE
CONSTITUTION. THE RESULT OF THAT
IS THE OVER 200,000 CALIFORNIANS
PERFORMING PERFORMING WORK AT
THE UNIVERSITY DO NOT ENJOY THE
SAME BASIC LABOR PROTECTIONS
THAT WE EXTEND TO EVERY OTHER
EMPLOYEE IN OUR STATE, PUBLIC
AND PRIVATE. COURTS HAVE RULED
IN THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
HAS ASSERTED THAT CRITICAL BASIC
LABOR LAWS PASSED BY THIS
LEGISLATURE LIKE EQUAL PAY
STANDARDS, PAYMENT OF MINIMUM
WAGE REST AND BREAK LAWS AND
OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY
STANDARDS DO NOT APPLY TO THE
èC OR TO THEIR WORKERS. THIS
OUTDATED EXEMPTION PUTS THEM
OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF CRITICAL
BASIC LABOR PROTECTIONS THAT WE
EXTEND TO EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE
AND EMPLOYER IN OUR STATE.
CALIFORNIANS WHO ARE CURRENTLY
NOT COVERED BY BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS INCLUDE UNDERPAID
SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE WORKERS
WHO CLEAN TOILETS. BEDPANS PICK
UP TRASH, COOKED FOOD REFORM,
CLERICAL FUNCTIONS AND MAINTAIN
BUILDINGS. THE UNIVERSITY HAS
STATED AND I THINK THEY SHOULD
BE COMMENDED FOR UH, FOLLOWING
THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THESE
LABOR LAWS. THAT SHOULD BE
APPLAUDED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME
, THEY'VE REPEATEDLY GONE INTO
COURT AND PREVAILED ON ASSERTING
IMMUNITY FROM THOSE SAME
STANDARDS, INCLUDING MOST
RECENTLY IN 2021, IN CASES
RELATED TO MINIMUM WAGE ORDERS
AND THE EQUAL PAY ACT. IN FACT,
THE WOMEN WHO BROUGHT THESE
VIOLATIONS WERE NOT EVEN ALLOWED
TO PRESENT THEIR CASE IN COURT
BECAUSE OF THIS OUTDATED
EXEMPTION. EVEN IF THE èC
FOLLOWS MANY OF THESE LABOR LAWS
WHEN THERE ISN'T COMPLETE
CLARITY OR EVEN DISPUTES OVER
WHETHER THESE WORKERS ARE
COVERED BY BASIC LABOR LAWS,
THEY'RE CLEARLY PROBLEMS THAT
ARISE, EASILY PREDICTABLE FOR
ANY EMPLOYER WHO WOULD EXEMPT
THEMSELVES FROM THESE LAWS, NOT
ONLY WITH THESE LAWS NOT BEING
FOLLOWED, BUT ALSO WORKERS BEING
UNCLEAR OR LEFT IN THE DARK
ABOUT THE RIGHTS, MORE
CONTENTIOUS LABOR NEGOTIATIONS
THAT CAN RESULT IN STRIKES. LIKE
THE ONE THAT WE SAW LAST YEAR.
THERE ARE FRANKLY, SOME
PROTECTIONS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE
TO BE BARGAINED. FOR WHAT? WE'VE
BEEN ASKED WHY WE CAN'T DEAL
WITH THIS LEGISLATIVELY.
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THIS
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, WE
HAVE TO GO TO THE CONSTITUTION.
IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE
THIS A C A WOULD NOT ADDRESS OR
IMPACT OTHER CRITICAL AREAS OF
CONSTITUTIONAL AUTONOMY THAT THE
èC ENJOYS, INCLUDING AS IT
RELATES TO ACADEMIC FREEDOM.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD EXTEND
CURRENT STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO
THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, BUT IT
WILL NOT SET THOSE IN STONES. IF
THERE ARE PARTICULAR UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCES OR FLEXIBILITY
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE TO
THE UNIVERSITY ON LABOR OR
CONTRACTING OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE
HAVE THE FULL AUTHORITY TO DO
THAT, ON BEHALF OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS ALSO WANT TO BE
CLEAR ON ONE LAST THING. THERE
IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT
PREVENTS THE UNIVERSITY FROM
CONTRACTING OUT WHEN NEEDED. IT
DOES NOT PREVENT CONTRACTING OUT
PERIOD AND DOES NOT APPLY TO
CURRENT CONTRACTS. IF PASSED,
THE èC WOULD BE COVERED UNDER
THE SAME STATE CONTRACTING
PROVISIONS WE'VE PASSED THAT
APPLIED TO CSU, THE STATE STATE
HOSPITALS AND ARE VERY SIMILAR
TO THOSE THE èC CURRENTLY HAS
IN POLICY, THE AMENDMENT AS WELL
AS THE STATE CONTRACTING CODE
EXPLICITLY ALLOWS FOR EXCEPTIONS
OF A SITUATION IS URGENT,
TEMPORARY OR OCCASIONAL, AS WELL
AS NINE OTHER PERMISSIVE USES OF
OUTSIDE CONTRACTING, INCLUDING
OF THE FUNCTIONS CANNOT BE
ACCOMPLISHED OTHERWISE. IF THIS
LEGISLATURE WANTS TO GIVE
FURTHER FLEXIBILITY BEYOND THE
STATE CONTRACTING CODE, OR EVEN
ADOPTING WHAT THE èC CURRENTLY
HAS, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO
DO THAT. UNDER THIS AMENDMENT.
THIS A C A HAS BROAD BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT. IT PASSED OUT OF THE
ASSEMBLY WITH THE SUPPORT OF
OVER 60 DEMOCRATS, ALONG WITH
THE SUPPORT OF THE REPUBLICAN
LEADER OF THE ASSEMBLY. WE LOVE
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA. I
KNOW ALL OF YOU DO AS WELL. WE
INVEST INVEST ON BEHALF OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS. BILLIONS OF PUBLIC
DOLLARS. WE WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY
OTHER EMPLOYER TO BE EXEMPT FROM
SUCH CRITICAL LAWS AS EQUAL
EQUAL PAY ACT THAT DOESN'T HELP
THE èC OR ITS MISSION, AND WE
SHOULD GIVE CALIFORNIANS THE
OPTION TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER
THEY THINK THERE'S 150 YEAR OLD
OUTDATED EXEMPTION SHOULD
REMAIN. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT
YOU NECESSARILY EVEN SUPPORT
THIS AMENDMENT. IT JUST MEANS
THAT WE NEED TO GIVE CALIFORNIA
THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON
IT THEMSELVES. WE MADE
CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS THAT THIS
IS A IS ABOUT PUBLIC SECTOR. NOT
PRIVATE SECTOR AND WITH ME HERE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT TODAY IS
KATHERINE LABARGA, THE PRESIDENT
OF ASKED ME 30 TO 99. GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR SELLING MEMBER
HANEY. WE INVITE YOUR WITNESS TO
COME UP AGAIN AS THE RULES FOR
ALL THE MEASURES THAT HAVE COME
BEFORE US TWO MINUTES TO
INDIVIDUALS ON EACH SIDE SLIDE
BURGER. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
CATHERINE LEIBACHER, PRESIDENT
OF ABSENTEE 32 99, REPRESENTING
SERVICE WORKERS AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. ARTICLE NINE SECTION
NINE OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION
WAS ADOPTED NEARLY 150 YEARS
AGO. BEFORE BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS WERE IN PLACE. EQUAL
PAY FOR WOMEN. MINIMUM WAGE.
OVERTIME PAY. MEAL AND REST
BREAKS. SICK LEAVE. PREVAILING
WAGES. AND RESTRICTIONS ON
OUTSOURCING OF JOBS. THIS
OUTDATED PROVISIONS OF THE STATE
CONSTITUTION HAS ALLOWED YOU SEE
TO REPEATEDLY PREVAIL IN COURT
AND KEEP 250,000 CALIFORNIANS
EXCLUDED FROM BASIC STATE LABOR
STANDARDS. A C A SIX IS ABOUT
CONSISTENCY AND PARODY. NO OTHER
WORKERS ARE FORCED TO BARGAIN.
FOR THE BASIC LABOR STANDARDS.
EVERY OTHER CALIFORNIAN HAS. AND
NO OTHER EMPLOYERS GRANTED
IMMUNITY FROM THOSE BASIC
STANDARDS. CALIFORNIA VOTERS
HAVE KEPT OUR STATE'S
CONSTITUTION AS A LIVING
DOCUMENT. WE HAVE AMENDED IT
OVER 500 TIMES. WE REQUEST THE
SENATE'S CONSIDERATION OF A SIX
TO ALLOW CALIFORNIA VOTERS TO
CHANGE THIS PROVISION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS
THERE ANOTHER WITNESS THAT YOU
HAVE, SIR? UH OKAY. THEN WE WANT
TO INVITE UP THOSE WHO LIKE TO
PUT THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE TO COME
FORWARD AND JUST THEIR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION OF
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. NICK CRUZ
OF THE CALIFORNIA LABOR FRIDAY
SHIN. WE'RE PROUD TO CO SPONSOR
THE 13TH. THANK YOU. OR AT SIX.
SORRY THERE'S SO MANY THIS
MORNING. THANK YOU, SIR. MELISSA
BB, I WORK AT DAVIS MEDICAL
CENTER WITH CALIFORNIA NURSES
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. BELIEVE GRIFFIN WITH
ACNE AND SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ARE THERE OTHERS HERE IN
THE HEARING ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE
TO PUT THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD,
PLEASE COME FORWARD. HELLO GOOD
BARON. WORK AT U. C. DAVIS
MEDICAL CENTER, PATIENT
TRANSPORT AND I SUPPORT A SIX.
THANK YOU. MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
BEVERLY, YOU ON BEHALF THE STATE
BUILDING CONSTRUCTION TRADES
COUNCIL AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, JASON NIEMI ASKED ME 30
TO 99 WORK AT UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA, SAN FRANCISCO. UH AS
THE SURGICAL TECHNICIAN IN THE
OPERATING ROOM. IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF ACA SIX. THANK YOU.
DIANA ROBLES WITH 32 99 SERVICE
WORKER AT THE U. C DAVIS
HOSPITAL IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TIFFANY MARK
ON BEHALF OF CFT AND YOU CFTR
LOCAL PROUD TO COSPONSOR. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. MATT BROUGHT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TEAMSTERS. AMALGAMATED TRANSIT
UNION. MACHINISTS UNITE HERE,
UTILITY WORKERS AND SC AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, JOHN SHIBAN,
CALIFORNIA NURSES ASSOCIATION
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM? I
WOULD LIKE TO PUT THEIR NAME ON
THE RECORD SCENE AND WE'RE GOING
TO GO TO THE OPPOSITION SIDE NOW
THAT INVITE THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO COME
TO THE MICROPHONE. FOLLOWING
THAT WE WILL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES. WHERE WILL ALLOCATE 15
MINUTES TO HEAR FROM THOSE IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION. YES
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS
KATHERINE NEWMAN. I AM THE
PROVOST AND EXECUTIVE VICE
PRESIDENT OF ACADEMIC AFFAIRS AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AND
ON BEHALF OF èC PRESIDENT
MICHAEL DRAKE. I'M HERE IN
OPPOSITION TO A C A SIX. A C A
SIX IS UNNECESSARY AND IF PASSED
, WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPEDE THE
UNIVERSITY'S ABILITY TO FUNCTION
AS AN EDUCATIONAL RESEARCH AND
HEALTHCARE INSTITUTION. WITH
RARE EXCEPTION, YOU SEE, ALREADY
MEETS AND OFTEN EXCEEDS THE
LABOR STANDARDS REQUIRED BY
STATE LAW. INCLUDING THOSE
MENTIONED IN THE BILL. OUR
WORKERS ARE PROTECTED BY MANY
STATE STATUTES, COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND YOU
SEIZE OAN EXTENSIVE EMPLOYEE
POLICIES. THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA STRIVES TO BE A GOOD
EMPLOYER AND A RELIABLE PARTNER
WITH OUR LABOR UNIONS AND ALL OF
OUR EMPLOYEES. DURING THE
PANDEMIC, FOR EXAMPLE, èC WENT
TO GREAT LENGTHS TO PROTECT
THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES AT A TIME
WHEN MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
WERE MAKING CUTS. THE ISSUES
THAT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HANEY
SEEKS TO RESOLVE THROUGH A C A
SIX CAN BE APPROPRIATELY AND
EFFICIENTLY ADDRESSED AT THE
BARGAINING TABLE OR EVEN THROUGH
BILL'S NOT THE BALLOT BOX. FOR
EXAMPLE, YOU SEE, EMPLOYEES ARE
COVERED BY A NUMBER OF RECENT
BILLS EXTENDING SPECIFIC LABOR
PROTECTIONS, INCLUDING ON TIMELY
PAYMENT OF WAGES, CONTRACTING
FOR SERVICES AND MEAL AND REST
BREAKS. THESE ARE ALL ITEMS
MENTIONED IN A C A SIX AND NONE
OF THEM REQUIRE A CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT. SIX WOULD TREAT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
DIFFERENTLY FROM EVERY HIGHER
EDUCATION ENTITY IN THE STATE,
BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. THE
UNIVERSITY WOULD BE HELD TO ONE
SET OF LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT LAWS
, WHILE OTHER UNIVERSITIES IN
CALIFORNIA RECEIVE
ACCOMMODATIONS THAT ALLOW THEM
TO PURSUE THEIR ACADEMIC,
CLINICAL AND RESEARCH FUNCTIONS
. IN FACT, THE STATE EXPRESSLY
EXCLUDES THE CSU SYSTEM FROM
MANY OF THE SAME REQUIREMENTS
THAT WOULD IMPOSE A C A 6 MAY
ALSO ENDANGER THE UNIVERSITY'S
CONTRACT WITH THE U. S.
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR'S LAWRENCE
BERKELEY NATIONAL LABORATORY.
THAT LABORATORY IS CURRENTLY
ENGAGED IN A HOST OF RESEARCH
TOPICS THAT INCLUDE QUANTUM
INFORMATION SYSTEMS, CLEAN
ENERGY, CARBON MANAGEMENT,
MICROELECTRONIC AND ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE. BECAUSE WE ARE
ONCE AGAIN AT THE CUTTING EDGE,
APPLYING THE WORLD'S BEST AND
BRIGHTEST MINDS FOR THE PEACEFUL
, SCALABLE SOLUTIONS TO CLIMATE
CHANGE AND OTHER CHALLENGES. YOU
SEE EMPLOYEES ALREADY HAVE
APPROPRIATE AND ROBUST RIGHTS IN
THE WORKPLACE. THEY HAVE
PROTECTED COMPLAINT AND
GRIEVANCE MECHANISMS TO ENSURE
THAT THOSE RIGHTS ARE
ENFORCEABLE. THE UNIVERSITY
STANDS READY TO COLLABORATE WITH
LEGISLATORS AND WITH OUR UNION
PARTNERS ON IDENTIFYING ANY
SPECIFIC LABOR NEEDS THAT NEED
TO BE ADDRESSED AND IN FINDING
REASONABLE SOLUTIONS. I AM
CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN FIND
COMMON GROUND AND A PATH FORWARD
TO SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES AND
ENABLE US TO FULFILL OUR MISSION
WITHOUT HARMING THE èC. FINALLY
A C A RISKS èC ACADEMIC
AUTONOMY IN A WAY THAT COULD
INJECT POLITICS, INTELLECTUAL
HALLS AND DOCTOR'S OFFICES AT A
TIME WHEN POLITICS IS ECLIPSING
FACTS AND SCHOLARSHIP IN
CLASSROOMS IN HOSPITALS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY. I TOO AM A LUCY
GRADUATE THREE TIMES OVER WITH
NINE OR 10 FACULTY MINOR 10
FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE ENJOYED THE
SAME PRIVILEGE. WHAT I WANT TO
DO IS SEE THAT YOU SEE REMAINS
STRONG, TRULY THE ENVY OF EVERY
OTHER UNIVERSITY ON THE PLANET
BECAUSE OF ITS INDEPENDENCE WHAT
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER HAS CALLED A
150 YEARS. OUTDATED TRADITION IS
THE REASON WHY THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA REMAINS THE ENVY OF
THE WORLD. IN TERMS OF ITS
QUALITY. IT IS THAT VERY
INDEPENDENCE THAT GUARANTEES OUR
ABILITY TO REMAIN THE GYM THAT
THEY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
DEPENDS ON. I KNOW THAT THE
FAMILIES WHO SEND THEIR YOUNG
PEOPLE TO US WELL, THANK YOU FOR
REMAINING TRUE TO THAT VISION.
AND FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE NO
, ON A C A SIX. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
NEWMAN. ARE THERE OTHERS HERE
THAT, UH DID YOU WANT TO
TESTIFY? BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE
ABOUT 30 SECONDS REMAINING, AND
WE WELCOME YOUR TESTIMONY. GOOD
MORNING. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN
THOMAS KING UNDER INTERIM
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF UC
HEALTH, AND I'M DEAN OF THE UCSF
SCHOOL OF MEDICINE. YOU SEE
HEALTH OVERSEES ALL SIX ACADEMIC
HEALTH CENTERS WITHIN THE UC
SYSTEM. AS THE NATION'S LEADING
ACADEMIC HEALTH SYSTEM, BèC
MEDICAL CENTERS PROVIDE PATIENTS
AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR STATE
WITH HEALTHCARE FOR EVERYDAY
NEEDS AND THE MOST SPECIALIZED
SERVICES FOR COMPLEX DISEASES,
ILLNESSES AND INJURIES, OFTEN
OFFERING UNIQUE CARE NOT
AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE. FOR IN
ORDER FOR IT TO PROVIDE THE
NEEDED CAPACITY TO TAKE CARE OF
PATIENTS WHEN THEY WHEN THEY
MOST NEEDED. FOR EXAMPLE, DURING
THE RECENT COVID 19 PATIENTS,
SURGES AND LAST WINTER WHEN YOU
SEE CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS WAS
OVERRUN WITH RSV FLU AND COVID
VACCINE COVERT PATIENTS, I'M
SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I ASK
YOU TO SUMMARIZE. WE'RE TRYING
TO BE FAIR ON ALL SIDES HERE, SO
TO SPEAK, TO THE ESSENCE OF WHY
YOU OPPOSE THIS MEASURE AND SEE
A SIX WILL HARM PATIENT. AND
CARE AT UCSF AND OTHER èC
MEDICAL CENTERS. AS IT
INTRODUCES CUMBERSOME STATE
CONTRACTING REGULATIONS THAT ARE
NOT TAILORED TO THE UNIQUE
DEMANDS OF THE HOSPITALS LIKE
OURS. OKAY VERY GOOD, AND THERE
MAY BE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON
THAT. SO STAY TUNED. ALL RIGHT.
I WANT TO PROVIDE THOSE WHO
WANNA PUT THEIR NAME ON THE
RECORD IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE TO COME FORWARD TO THE
MICROPHONE AND JUST PROVIDE
THEIR NAME AND AFFILIATION, IF
ANY, AND THEIR POSITION IN
OPPOSITION YESTERDAY MORNING, MR
CHAIR CHRIS MCKAY LI ON BEHALF
OF THE LOS ANGELES AREA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. GREAT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
JEAN HURST HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
PUBLIC HOSPITALS AND HEALTH
SYSTEMS IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. CHARMING GLACIER AND
MEMBERS. BALTAZAR CORNEJO, WITH
BRAUNSTEIN ON BEHALF OF THE BAY
AREA COUNCIL, REPRESENTING OVER
300 MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN THE BAY
AREA AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
JANET LOPEZ, REPRESENTING
CHANCELLOR, GENE BLOCK AND èC,
LÀ AND OPPOSITION. MORNING MR
CHAIR MEMBERS DOMINIC TOMORROW
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO
REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ROBERT MOOD
TREE FOR THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE AND A PROUD BERKELEY
GRAD AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. HI GOOD MORNING.
JASMINE DIEGO WITH U C L, A
HEALTH SYSTEM AND OPPOSITION.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MIGUEL
MARTINEZ. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
CHANCELLOR CAROL CHRIST FROM UC
BERKELEY AND STRONG OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CAITLIN
SHALL WITH UC SAN DIEGO ON
BEHALF OF CHANCELLOR KHOSLA AND
HEALTH CEO PATTY MASON. WE
OPPOSE. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
AMELIE ALDEN ON BEHALF OF
CHANCELLOR SAM HAWGOOD AND CEO
AND PRESIDENT SURESH GOING TO
SACRED AT UCSF IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. TOMORROW ON BEHALF OF
UC HEALTH AND OUR SIX ACADEMIC
HEALTH CENTERS IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. BRAMBLE HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS ASSOCIATION. I
APOLOGIZE FOR BEING OUT OF
ORDER. WE ARE IN SUPPORT. OKAY?
I WANT TO INVITE ONE LAST
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY HERE IN
THE HEARING ROOM WHO IS IN
OPPOSITION TO COME FORWARD. ALL
RIGHT. SEE YOU. NOW WE'LL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES WOULD SET ASIDE
15 MINUTES MAXIMUM TO HEAR FROM
THOSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST A C A
SIX. SO MODERATOR, WOULD YOU ASK
THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PUT
THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD? AND I
SEE A 60. PLEASE, SO INDICATE
YES, THANK YOU. AND I APOLOGIZE
IF YOU'VE ALREADY PRESSED ONE
THAN ZERO, PLEASE DO SO AGAIN AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO
TO LINE 4 32, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
WHY ARE YOU CUTTING THE PEOPLE
OUT? THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COULD
NOT EVEN GET THROUGH ON A C A
ONE. AND NOW YOU'RE LIMITING
PUBLIC AGAIN. YOU'RE WELCOME TO
PUT YOUR NAME ON THE RECORD
SYSTEM IN FAVOR OF OUR GUESTS
SPEAK BECAUSE MODERATOR GO ONTO
THE NEXT CALL, PLEASE. AND YOU
WON'T EVEN TAKE THE PHONE LINE.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. NEXT WE'LL
GO TO LINE 4 96, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS. THESE ARE GÓMEZ ON
BEHALF OF èC CHANCELLOR KIM
WILCOX. STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. LINE. 506 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, MRS KIRSTEN
DESSLER. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF
OF U. C SANTA BARBARA CHANCELLOR
HENRY YANG IS STRONG OPPOSITION
TO SIX. THANK YOU. LINE 4 71 GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS BETH ROSNER CALLING ON
BEHALF OF THE BERKELEY CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE IN BERKELEY,
CALIFORNIA WE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED. LINE 2 79, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS VICTOR
REYES WITH VODKA VALLEY INDUSTRY
AND COMMERCE ASSOCIATION AND
OPPOSITION TO A C A SICK. BLIND
4 68 GO AHEAD, PLEASE. HI
MELISSA WATLEY ON BEHALF OF U.
C. SANTA CRUZ AND CHANCELLOR
LARRY'S CALLING AN OPPOSITION TO
SIX THANK YOU. LINE 3 89, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. U C L, A CENTER FOR
ACCESSIBLE EDUCATION. I OPPOSE.
LINE FOR 18, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI. MY NAME IS LAUREN HONEST
WITH NORTH ISLAND LABOR
FEDERATION IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
SIX. LINE 1 81, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI. THIS IS OLIA SKY ON BEHALF
OF THE U. C STUDENTS ASSOCIATION
, WHICH REPRESENTS OVER 230,000
èC UNDERGRADUATE. WE ARE IN
STRONG, STRONG, SUPPORTIVE LIST.
BLIND TO 16, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. COREY LUCERO ON
BEHALF OF UC MERCED CHANCELLOR
ONE SANCHEZ MUNOZ IN OPPOSITION
TO FIX. LINE 2 88, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MORNING MARCELO ON BEHALF
OF YOUR INTERVIEW LOCALS TO ITS
FIVE AND 58 10, REPRESENTING
48,000 ACADEMIC WORKERS AT UC IN
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE. 4 43,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS ANDREW MARTINEZ. I'M A SENIOR
CUSTODIAN FROM EAST LA AND I'M
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SIX. THANK
YOU. LINE 4 67, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO MY NAME IS DR PEREZ WITH
THE C I R UNION, WHICH
REPRESENTS 8000 RESIDENTS,
POSITIONS IN THE U. C AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF SIX. LINE 5 14,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS JACKSON
APPEARS WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE ARE
IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
DISCUSSION. LINE 1 73, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. LINE 1 73, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
DENISE BETTER ON BEHALF OF THE
L, A COUNTY BUSINESS FEDERATION
OR BUSINESS IN OPPOSITION. LINE
FOR 87, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
LAURENTI JOHNSON UCSD MEDICAL
CENTER, SHIPPING AND RECEIVING.
WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT. OF A C
A SIX. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LINE. 2 86, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MCIVER I'M A FACULTY MEMBER AT U
C L A AND I'M CALLING ON BEHALF
OF UNIVERSITY COUNCIL, AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, LOCAL 14
74 7000 FACULTY AND LIBRARIANS
CFT LOCAL 14 74 STRONGLY SUPPORT
A CH SIX. WE'RE CONFIDENT IT
WILL SUPPORT AND ENHANCE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EXCELLENT
TESTIMONY NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
SIGN 1 36, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
NEW UNDERGRAD STUDENT OF MUSIC
AND BARBARA IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE STATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LINE 466. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS DR AMBER GOT HIM WITH
THE FBI UCR, WHICH REPRESENTS
OVER 8000 RESIDENTS, POSITIONS
AND THE èC IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
SIX. THANK YOU. LINE 4 70,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS TOP ON BEHALF OF ORANGE
COUNTY BUSINESS COUNCIL IN
OPPOSITION. LINE 4 51, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS BRIDGET
BROWNING FROM THE SAN DIEGO
IMPERIAL COUNTIES. LABOR COUNCIL
IN STRONG SUPPORT. LINE 54,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE 504,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY THEN.
HELLO. DID YOU LIE? MUTED YES.
GO AHEAD LINE 504. UM, THIS IS
DUBLIN. LUCAS BèC. RIVERSIDE I
AM IN SUPPORT OF GAY STICKS.
THANK YOU LINE 4 28, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI AND MORGARO ON BEHALF
OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL
RESOURCES AND OPPOSITION TO GAY
SEX. LINE. 509 PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI. MY NAME IS DAVID RAMIREZ,
UNDERGRADUATE ARAMBULA ON BEHALF
OF THE UNDERGRADUATE ASSOCIATION
COUNCIL, UCL, A EXTERNAL VICE
PRESIDENT'S OFFICE REPRESENTING
ALL UNDERGRADUATE STUDENTS THERE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A
STATISTICS. LINE. 4 79, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I. MY NAME IS AGNES.
BOWLERS FROM MUSEUM OF MEDICAL
CENTER AFTER THE 30 TO 99 AND I
MEAN SUPPORT OF 80 A WEEK. LINE
5 25, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. RONNIE BRIDGE LEGAL
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
HOSPITAL. 50 ATION IN OPPOSITION
TO A C A SIX. THANK YOU.
APPLYING 5 19, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED,
BUT THEY GOT THEMSELVES OUT OF.
Q THERE ARE NO MORE IN Q AT THIS
TIME, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL JUST GIVE
IT ONE LAST CHANCE. MODERATOR
ASK IF ANYONE WANTS TO PUT THEIR
NAME ON THE RECORD ONE LAST
TIME. YES, THANK YOU. PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. BLIND 5 19,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. SHOULD STAY
TILL MIDNIGHT TO HEAR THE WILL
OF THE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT
VERY MUCH ALREADY. THE NEXT CAR
WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE AND
THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? LINE 1 80,
PLEASE GO AHEAD BY SOMEONE
THERE. HELLO AHEAD, MY
AFFILIATION AND POSITION,
PLEASE. MY NAME IS MARIA
RODRIGUEZ. RESIDENTS OF A VALLEY
COUNTY AND I OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
CALLER, PLEASE. LINE 5 34,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOU'RE LYING
OPEN? YES. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF
OF. YES. GO AHEAD, CONTINUE. I'M
CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SIX
FROM UC SAN DIEGO. THIS IS ISAAC
ZAMORA, RESPIRATORY THERAPIST.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL GO
TO LINE 2 97, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IS THAT ME? YES. THANK YOU, UH,
MY NAME'S MIKE JAILS. 8 12
EDUCATOR FOR DECADES. I'M
OPPOSED TO A C A SIX. THANK YOU.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. LINE 4 63,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS ROSA
WAS FOR èC EVERYBODY. I AM
SUPPORT 80 A SIX AND ASKED ME TO
99. THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. LINE 4 23, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS TANISHA
ON THE UNIT COORDINATOR FROM UC
DAVIS MEDICAL CENTER IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SIX. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. LINE 5 36, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI MY NAME IS JOHN HAWLEY IN SAN
DIEGO. AND I'M OPPOSED TO A 13
THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE THREE MORE
AND 21 MOMENT. LINE 4 95, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. TAKEN OUT CAREER OF
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS
ANGELES AND STRONG SUPPORT OF
CDVA S¼. THANK YOU. THERE'S TWO
MORE IN Q ONE MOMENT. LINE 4 78,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES MY NAME IS
AGNES. ACCUSED S PHOENIX
CUSTODIAN. I SUPPORT OF 88 6.
THANK YOU. JUST ONE MORNING. Q
ONE MOMENT.
THEY'RE STILL TALKING TO THE
OPERATOR. ONE MOMENT. OKAY LINE
. FIVETHIRTYEIGHT PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES. MY NAME IS DENISE
NEVIN. I'M A CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED A 13.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO MORE QUÊ
AT THIS MODERATORS THEM OR NO,
THAT'S FINE. AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK TODAY. APPRECIATE IT.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. I
DID WANT TO. AH PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR IS IT? I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S THE DEAN OR THE
EXECUTIVE AT THE HEALTH CENTER.
ANSWER A QUESTION I HAD ABOUT
CONTRACTING OUT. UM PART OF THE
ASSERTIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE
UNDER THIS BILL IS THAT, UH,
STILL IN TO PLACE IN OUR
CONSTITUTION, BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE
ISSUE OF CONTRACTING OUT AND HOW
THAT FITS IN AND WHAT KIND OF
IMPACT THAT MIGHT HAVE IN YOUR
HEALTH CENTER? SO, UM WE AUGMENT
. ARE YOU NOT UNIONIZED
WORKFORCE MINT CONTRACT LABOR TO
MEET TEMPORARY AND URGENT
STAFFING NEEDS. FOR EXAMPLE,
WHEN YOU SET SELF USED CONTRACT
LABOR DURING THE COVID 19
PATIENTS, SURGERIES AND AGAIN
LAST WINTER WHEN OUR CHILDREN'S
HOSPITALS WERE OVERRUN WITH RSV
FLU AND COVID VACCINE COVID
PATIENTS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
PROVIDE NEEDED CAPACITY. WE HAD
TO QUICKLY DEPOR CONTRACT.
RESTAURANT THERAPISTS, NURSES
AND OTHER WORKERS. MORE OF OUR
WE HAVE SERVICE CONTRACTS TO
REPAIR AND MAINTAIN VERY COMPLEX
DEVICES LIKE M R I SCANNERS, CT
SCANNERS, ROBOTS AND ULTRASOUND
MACHINES WITHOUT THE FREEDOM TO
SWIFTLY CONTRACT FOR THESE
SERVICES, PATIENTS WOULD HAVE
FACED DELAYS IN DIAGNOSIS AND
TREATMENT. THANK YOU, SIR. AND
LET ME GO BACK TO THE AUTHOR ON
THAT QUESTION. IN THIS
CONTRACTING OUT THAT THE THAT
THE INDIVIDUAL JUST SPOKE ABOUT
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL
THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE CONTRACTED
OUT HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE STATE
LABOR STANDARDS. CAN YOU SPEAK
TO THAT? SURE WELL, THAT AND I
APPRECIATE THAT THE LANGUAGE
THAT WAS USED IN THOSE
SITUATIONS WAS URGENT OR
TEMPORARY, WHICH IS A LANGUAGE
THAT IS IN OUR STATE CONTRACTING
CODE CURRENTLY, SO NOTHING THAT
WAS DESCRIBED THERE WOULD BE
PROHIBITED IN ANY WAY FROM BEING
CONTRACTED OUT UNDER THE STATE
CONTRACTING CODE, SO I THINK
THOSE ARE NONE OF THOSE THINGS
WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF A C
A SIX PASSES AND IN FACT, IF A
CSX PASSES. THE LEGISLATURE ON
BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS COULD
SET THOSE EXACT POLICIES THAT
THE èC REGIONS HAVE IN PLACE.
CURRENTLY NOTHING PROHIBITS US
FROM BEING ADAPTIVE. IF A C A
SIX PASSES WITH THE CONTRACTING
THAT WE ALLOW FOR, BUT AGAIN,
NOTHING THAT WAS DESCRIBED THERE
. IT WOULD BE PROHIBITED IN ANY
WAY BY A CH SIX, RIGHT, BUT
THERE'S A THERE'S AN ASSERTION
THAT'S BEING MADE THAT THE
CONTRACTING OUT THAT SOMEHOW
THAT THIS MEASURE IS ALL ABOUT
BASIC LABOR STANDARDS IN ANY OF
THE CONTRACTING OUT EXAMPLES.
EVEN A COULD COULD ANY OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALS NOT FOLLOW OUR LABOR
STANDARDS IN THE STATE? IS
THERE. ANY PROTECTIONS THAT YOU
SEE? CONTRACTING OUT MEANS THAT
THOSE GOD, THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE
BEEN CONTRACTED WITH DON'T HAVE
TO FOLLOW OUR BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS. WELL, IT'S THE PEOPLE
WHO WORK FOR THE èC RIGHT NOW
WHO DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE
BASIC, BUT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT
CONTRACTING OUT BECAUSE YOUR
MEASURE GOES WAY BEYOND TO ME.
BASIC LABOR STANDARDS SAYS YOU
CAN NOW CAN'T CONTRACT OUT
EXCEPT UNDER A NARROW PROVISION.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER
CONTRACTING OUT, UH THROUGH THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA WOULD
SOMEHOW EXEMPT THEM FROM ANY OF
OUR BASIC LABOR STANDARDS. WELL,
CERTAINLY, I THINK MOST OF US AT
LEAST I WOULD VIEW ISSUES OF
CONTRACTING OUT OF PUBLIC
FUNCTIONS FROM PUBLIC
INSTITUTIONS AS A ISSUE OF BASIC
LABOR STANDARDS IF YOU ARE
CONTRACTING OUT FUNCTIONS THAT
ARE BEING DONE BY US A PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES AND SHOULD BE DONE BY
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, SOMETIMES THAT
CONTRACTING OUT IS HAPPENING
BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING LESS FOR
THAT SAME WORK THAT IS A BASIC
LABOR. WOULDN'T THOSE
CONTRACTORS HAVE TO MEET ALL OF
OUR LAWS AND STANDARDS THAT YOU
YOURSELF LEGISLATE MINIMUM WAGE?
SICK LEAVE. REST BREAKS. EQUAL
PAY AREN'T AREN'T THOSE STILL IN
EFFECT ON ANY KIND OF
CONTRACTING OUT PROVISIONS? THEY
WOULD, UH AND CONTRACTING OUT IS
NOT PROHIBITED BY A CS SIX.
ALTHOUGH I DO FIND IT A BIT
IRONIC THAT WE ARE PROUD TO SAY
THAT THESE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS
ARE GOING TO FOLLOW LAWS THAT
YOU SEE IS NOT REQUIRED TO
FOLLOW. BUT WHAT THIS WOULD
ALLOW FOR IS THAT SAME TYPE OF
CONTRACTING OUT, BUT IT WOULD
ENSURE THAT BOTH THE WORKERS AT
THE UC AND THOSE WHO ARE
CONTRACTED OUT TO ARE ARE
FOLLOWING THE SAME BASICALLY,
LET ME GO BACK TO YOU SEE, MAYBE
THE ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC
ASSERTION THAT THAT CONTRACTING
OUT UNDER STATE LAW. THAT THIS
MEASURE WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO
FOLLOW IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR
STANDARDS OF CONTRACTING OUT AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA.
SENATOR MAY I ANSWER THAT
QUESTION ON BEHALF OF THE RISK?
CALIFORNIA YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF
FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. JASON
MURPHY, UNIVERSITY OFFICER
PRESIDENT. UH WHAT I WOULD WANT
TO SAY IS, UH, THE CONCERNS
UNIVERSITY HAS RAISED THE GUARDS
TO THE SIX PROVISIONS AFFECT
CONTRACT FOR SERVICES. IS THAT
THIS? CONSTITUTIONAL MOVEMENT
WOULD MAKE THE UNIVERSITY
APPLICABLE TO A WHOLE NEW SET OF
PROCESSES AND STANDARDS WHEREBY
UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE CURRENT
GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISIONS THAT
CURRENTLY APPLY TO STATE
AGENCIES. THE UNIVERSITY WOULD
HAVE TO, UH, PROPOSE OR SHARE
OUR PROPOSED CONTRACTS FOR
SERVICES WITH THE STATE
PERSONNEL BOARD. STATE PERSONNEL
BOARD, THEN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY
IF ASKED BY UNIONS THAT ARE
AFFECTED BY THOSE CONTRACTS TO
REVIEW THOSE CONTRACTS DETERMINE
WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET THE
GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISIONS FOR
APPROPRIATENESS AND SO FORTH.
THOSE GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISION
THE STATE PERSONNEL BOARD HAVE
TO FOLLOW. START OUT FIRST AND
FOREMOST SEEKING TO DETERMINE
WHETHER OR NOT THE CONTRACT
SAVES MONEY. THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA, CERTAINLY BY VIRTUE
OF THE ADOPTION OF REGIONS
POLICY 54 02 A FEW YEARS BACK,
WHICH PROVIDES FOR WAGE AND
BENEFIT PARITY FOR ALL OF OUR
CONTRACTORS, STAFF HAVE
CONTRACTS IN PLACE NOW CONTRACTS
FOR SERVICES. THAT, FRANKLY,
DON'T SAVE MONEY. UH SO WE'RE
VERY CONCERNED THAT THE
PROVISIONS THAT APPLY TO THE
STATE PERSONNEL PROCESS DON'T
REPLY. THAT'S WHAT WAS NOTED IN
THE PROVOST COMMENTS AND THE
DEAN'S COMMENTS EARLIER, THE
OVERLAY OF A C A SIX ON THE
UNIVERSITY DOESN'T IT DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE IN LIGHT OF OUR
CLINICAL AND ACADEMIC STANDING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO
GO TO COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS, COLLEAGUES
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT
SENATOR MENJIVAR THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. JUST TO ADD SINCE WE ALL
SHARED OUR CREDENTIALS. I AM
ALSO, UM, BENEFITED FROM THIS
PROCEDURES PUBLIC INSTITUTION AS
A PRODUCT GRADUATE PRODUCT OF
èC L A AND WITHOUT, IT'S REALLY
UPSETTING TO SEE THAT AS A
WOMAN, THE WOMEN THAT ARE
CLEANING THESE UNIVERSITIES THAT
ARE DOING SO MUCH WORK THERE ARE
NOT BEING ABLE TO GET PAID
IMPERATIVE TO THEIR MALE
COUNTERPARTS. YOU KNOW, THE
OPPOSITION STATED AND EVEN
ANALYSIS THAT THIS IS SINGULARLY
NOW BèC. WELL, WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT, THIS IS THE ONLY
INSTITUTION THAT WE HAVE TO
SIGNAL OUT BECAUSE WHEN WE PASS
LAWS HERE, AND I'LL READ THEM
EVERYTHING IN RELATED IN
RELATION TO EDUCATION. IT'S
ALWAYS WHERE MANDATING CSU'S
WERE MANDATING R CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES, BUT THE
LANGUAGE FOR USES IS ALSO WELL.
WE ALSO THEN RECOMMEND FOR THE
U. C TO IMPLEMENT THIS BECAUSE
NO ONE HERE IN THE DIETS CAN DO
ANYTHING TO MANDATE UCS TO
FOLLOW ANY OF THE LEGISLATION
THAT WE PASSED. SO IT'S
NECESSARY TO PASS A SIX TO
ENSURE THE BASIC STATE LABOR
STANDARDS AND PAGE THREE OF THE
ANALYSIS REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME
BECAUSE THE THINGS THAT WERE
DESCRIBED IN ON PAGE THREE OF A
THROUGH H OF WHAT IS NEEDED ARE
LITERALLY BASIC, BASIC, BASIC,
THE PRESIDENT AND HER SUPPORT
TESTIMONY MENTIONED IT. I JUST
WANT TO SAY THESE AGAIN BECAUSE
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FIGHTING FOR.
THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING
FOR THE PAYMENT OF A MINIMUM
WAGE. THE TIMELY PAYMENT OF
WAGES, MEAL AND REST. BREAKS
PAID LEAVE, INCLUDING PAID SICK
LEAVE. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT
ARE ALLOTTED TO EVERY SINGLE
PERSON HERE. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO
EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF THOSE
WORKING FOR THE U. C SYSTEM.
THIS ISN'T ASKING FOR AN EXTRA
BONE. THIS IS THE BARE MINIMUM
THAT OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE TO
HAVE. THIS IS WHAT A C A SIX IS
STANDING FOR, AND IN TWO DAYS,
THE REGIONS ARE GOING TO BE
VOTING TO PURCHASE THE CLOSE TO
$12 MILLION HOME FOR THE
PRESIDENT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE
VOTING FOR. IN THE SAME WEEK
THAT THEY'RE HAVING OPPOSITION.
FOR MINIMUM STANDARDS, SO FOR MY
COLLEAGUES HERE. THIS IS IT'S AN
IMPORTANT MOMENT TO TELL THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA CONSTITUENTS
OR EMPLOYEES. SO MANY THAT LIVE
IN MY DISTRICT WHO TRAVELED THE
101 IN THE FOUR OR FIVE TO GET
TO U. C L, A LOS SENORES. THE
GOAL AND CLEAN IS THAT WE STAND
WITH YOU AND SUPPORT YOU GETTING
THE MINIMUM WAGE. AND FOR THAT I
URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO GO UP ON
THIS ON THIS A CIA AND STAND
WITH THOSE THAT ARE LITERALLY
BREAKING THEIR BACKS. TO LET OUR
FUTURE KIDS GO TO UCLA AND
HOPEFULLY MY FUTURE KIDS AND
THEN, UH, EDUCATION THAT I HOLD
SO HIGHLY. I URGE EVERYONE HERE
TO VOTE I ON SIX. THANK YOU,
SENATOR MENJIVAR ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
COLLEAGUES? UM I WANT TO GIVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OPPORTUNITY TO
CLOSE. THANK THANK YOU. I'M
SORRY, SENATOR ALLEN. APOLOGIZE,
UM. UH YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SAY
THAT THIS OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD A
NUMBER OF ACCESS THAT HAVE COME
BEFORE. THE LEGISLATURE. OVER
THE PAST FEW YEARS. THAT HAVE
COME REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING
ONTO THE BALLOT. UM YOU KNOW THE
SAME ARGUMENTS ARE BROUGHT UP
ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT CONDITIONS
WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY. AND THEN,
OF COURSE, FOCUS ON THE èC
SIDE. TALKING ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE INDEPENDENCE
AND THE SOVEREIGNTY THAT THE
UNIVERSITY HAS UNDER A CIA AND
UNDER UNDER ARTICLE NINE YOU
KNOW, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A
TIME WHEN THE BOARD WAS FAR MORE
CONSERVATIVE. AH, AH AND REALLY
, YOU KNOW, REALLY DID NOT
REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF THE
STATE, AND THERE HAS BEEN A LONG
EFFORTS OVER A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME TO GET MORE DIVERSE. AND
UM, YOU KNOW, IMPORT OF REGIONS.
AND THAT EFFORT IS STILL VERY
MUCH UNDERWAY. THE BOARD
INCLUDES. YOU KNOW, FOLKS,
INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER
POLITICAL DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION. UM
. SO YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD A LOT
FROM UNIVERSITY FOLKS WHO HAVE
COME BACK TO US SAYING, PLEASE
DON'T PUT THIS INTO THE
CONSTITUTION. I'M I'M CERTAINLY
YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA I'M GOING TO
SUPPORT THE CHAIR TODAY ON THAT
ON THAT GROUNDS, BUT, YOU KNOW,
I WILL SAY THAT IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE
UNIVERSITY TAKE A LONG, HARD
LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED IN THE CONTEXT OF
THIS DEBATE. AND BE RESPONSIVE.
YOU KNOW SEVERAL TIMES IN THE
PAST SIMILAR GRACIAS AND BROUGHT
FORWARD AND THEN ULTIMATELY, A
DEAL WAS STRUCK BETWEEN THE
UNION 13 99 IN THE UNIVERSITY
OVER CONTRACTING OUT IN A COUPLE
OF OTHER ISSUES, AND IT'S MY
STRONG HOPE. THAT WILL HAPPEN
HERE AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THE
UNIVERSITY YOU KNOW IF THE YOU
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF THE MEASURE
OF GOES THROUGH, THAT'S ONE
THING IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH,
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE
UNIVERSITY NEEDS TO SEE THIS AS
A THIS DEBATE IS NOT AS A VERY
SERIOUS WARNING ABOUT HOW MUCH
THE LEGISLATURE TAKES SERIOUSLY
. THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT
HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH REGARDS TO
LABOR STANDARDS WITHIN THE
UNIVERSITY AND FAIRNESS AND, UM
YOU KNOW, IT'S MY HOPE THAT NO
MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THERE'S
GOING TO BE A REALLY ROBUST
NEGOTIATION AND CONVERSATION
AROUND THE TABLE. THE BOARD OF
REGIONS OVER THE FALL ABOUT
ADDRESSING A NUMBER OF THE BIG
ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN
THE CONTEXT OF THIS DEBATE, AND
I'M GONNA BE WATCHING VERY
CLOSELY. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT
MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE DOING THE
SAME AND UM AND YOU KNOW, WE MAY
VERY WELL BE BACK AGAIN IN THE
IN THE NEW YEAR. UH YOU KNOW IF
THERE HASN'T BEEN A GOOD GOOD
DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE UNION AND
THE UNIVERSITY THANK YOU,
SENATOR ALLEN, SENATOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HANEY. UH.
SENATOR MENJIVAR. YES, UH, I
WOULD HAVE ASSUMED THAT YOU SEE
WOULD HAVE TAKEN THIS SERIOUSLY
IN 2019 WHEN THEY WERE SUED.
THERE WERE SUED OR ATTEMPTED TO
BE SUED. BECAUSE FOR YEARS THIS
HAS BEEN HAPPENING. SO YOU KNOW
TO MY COLLEAGUE IN WEST L A. I
WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN
ONGOING CONVERSATION AND TO
THINK THAT THERE WERE TAKE IT
SERIOUS NOW, IF THEY HAVEN'T
DONE IT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF
YEARS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS
NEEDED. I MEAN IN 2019, THE
COURTS SAID THAT THEY'RE EXEMPT
FROM THE STATUES REGULATING
THEIR WAGES AND BENEFITS OF
WORKERS. AND THAT WASN'T ENOUGH
WARNING OUTSIDE OF THIS. I'M NOT
SURE WHAT ELSE WILL BE ALL RIGHT
. I WANT TO GIVE THIS SOME IN
BRAHIMI THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE
BUT I WOULD NOTE THAT THAT COURT
SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO
DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY AREN'T
DOING THERE'S A DIFFERENCE
THERE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT
DIFFERENCE THAT SOME OF THEM ARE
ROUHANI. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
PROVIDE YOUR CLOSING ARGUMENTS?
THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO
ALL OF THE MEMBERS FOR YOUR
COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE
EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID. I
WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FROM THE
UNIVERSITY'S WHO'S HERE, UH,
BOTH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
UNIVERSITY AND ALSO MANY PEOPLE
WHO ARE HERE WHO DO THE WORK
EVERY DAY TO MAKE THE UNIVERSITY
RUN. UH THIS IS ABOUT MAKING
SURE WE FULFILL OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE SERVED BY THE UNIVERSITY AND
PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE. RIGHT NOW
WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM ON BEHALF
OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, ENSURING
THAT THEY HAVE A VOICE. IN THESE
STANDARDS AND PROTECTIONS THAT
WE'VE DECIDED ARE A BARE MINIMUM
FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN OUR STATE.
THIS IS NOT A SMALL EMPLOYER.
THIS IS THE THIRD LARGEST
EMPLOYER IN THE STATE OVER
200,000 PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THE
UNIVERSITY. MANY MILLIONS WHO
RELY ON IT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE
STAFF WE'VE HEARD FROM THE
FACULTY AND THE STUDENTS WHO ALL
SUPPORT VERY STRONGLY THIS
MEASURE. WE ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO WORK ON BEHALF OF
THIS UNIVERSITY AND SUPPORT THE
UNIVERSITY. A C A SIX PUTS US IN
A STRONGER POSITION TO BE ABLE
TO DO THAT, FOR EVERYONE WHO
WORKS THERE AND IS SERVED BY
THERE. AND WITH THAT CHAIR THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ANALYSIS
AND YOUR WORK AND ARE VERY
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR RIVAL.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
HANEY. LET ME JUST COMPLIMENT
YOU. I KNOW THAT THE MEASURES
BEFORE US BECAUSE OF YOUR DEEP
CONCERN ABOUT BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS, AND I KNOW THAT THAT
COMES FROM THE HEART AND YOUR
FIERCE ADVOCACY FOR THIS MEASURE
SPEAKS TO HOW STRONGLY YOU CARE
ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. SO THANK YOU
FOR DOING THAT. UH, YOU KNOW FOR
ME. THERE ISN'T ANY DISPUTE
ABOUT THE BASIC LABOR STANDARDS
THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, WHETHER
THAT'S EQUAL PAY OR MINIMUM
WAGE. OR MEAL AND REST BREAKS OR
SICK. LEAVE. BREAK TIME. ALL OF
THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE GOOD
STANDARDS AND ONCE IN WHICH I
STRONGLY I STRONGLY SUPPORT AND
FROM EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TELL
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA. IS
COMPLYING. WITH THOSE STANDARDS.
UM BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS
MEASURE. BRINGS ANOTHER EQUALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUE TO THE FOREFRONT
, AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS. OF
OUR OF OUR UNIVERSITY SYSTEM,
THE GREATEST UNIVERSITY SYSTEM
IN THE WORLD. DOING INCREDIBLE
THINGS EVERY DAY TO EDUCATE OUR
STUDENTS INTO PROVIDE THE
RESEARCH BREAKTHROUGHS THAT ARE
MAKING OUR WORLD SAFER AND
HEALTHIER. AND SO TO ON ONE
HAND. SAY THIS IS, UH ABOUT JUST
COMPLYING WITH OUR BASIC LABOR
STANDARDS AND ON THE OTHER HAND,
CREATING AN INCREDIBLE, SLIPPERY
SLOPE. OF THE LEGISLATURE, UM,
ENGAGING AND I THINK ARGUABLY
THE POLITICS ON THIS ISSUE, BUT
THERE ARE MANY OTHERS. UH,
JEOPARDIZING THE INDEPENDENCE OF
THE UNIVERSITY, I THINK IS A
VERY, VERY SERIOUS ISSUE AS
WELL. UM WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER
STATES. POLITICIANS UTILIZING
THE MANIPULATION. OR THE YEAH,
UH, DESIRE TO, UH. FORCE OUR
UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS TO DO
DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'VE SEEN THE
SCARY IMPACT OF THAT. I HAVE NO
INTEREST IN SEEING CALIFORNIA
BECOME LIKE FLORIDA. THAT WE
HEAR IN THE LEGISLATURE HAVE A
VARIETY OF WAYS IN WHICH WE WORK
CLOSELY WITH THE UNIVERSITY AND
THEIR OPERATIONS. WE CONFIRM
EVERY ONE OF THEIR REGIONS WITH,
I THINK A COUPLE EXCEPTIONS THAT
ARE IN THE CONSTITUTION, BUT WE
CONFIRM ALL OF THOSE LEADERS
THAT ARE RUNNING THE UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM. WE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR
MORE THAN HALF OF THEIR BUDGET.
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR,
AND WE ENGAGED IN DISCUSSIONS
WITH THEM ON THE ON THE SPENDING
OF THAT THAT MONEY AND, OF
COURSE, AH! UNIVERSITY HAS A
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UP
OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL REPRESENTED
EMPLOYEES. THAT'S ROBUSTLY
ENGAGED IN BOTH INTERNALLY AND
WE HEAR ABOUT IT EXTERNALLY AS
WELL. SO THERE ARE SO MANY
PLACES IN WHICH THE LEGISLATURE
WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
UNIVERSITY. NOW DOES THAT MEAN
THAT WE DON'T HAVE DIFFERENCES
OF OPINION OVER THE YEARS?
ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE DIFFERENCES
OF OPINION. BUT MOST OF THEM
HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT THROUGH
RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION AND
NEGOTIATION. I THINK THAT MY
CONCERN ON THIS MEASURE IT SEEKS
TO ADVANCE. A, UH, A AND AN
AGENDA HIDING IN A NARRATIVE OF
LABOR STANDARDS. UM. YOU KNOW
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REGULATING
CONTRACTING OUT? I DON'T THINK
FOR ME THAT'S A BASIC LABOR
STANDARD. WE MAY HAVE A
RESPECTFUL DIFFERENCE OF OPINION
THERE. BUT CONTRACTING OUT.
ENSURES THAT THE UNIVERSITY CAN
RUN EFFICIENTLY AND
ECONOMICALLY. AND IF YOU DON'T
LIKE TUITION INCREASES THEN
DON'T HAMPER THE UNIVERSITY'S
ABILITY TO SAVE MONEY AND ITS
OPERATIONS. WHY WOULD WE DO
THAT? WE CAN'T ON ONE HAND SAY
YOU CAN'T AND THE OTHER HAND SAY
DON'T RAISE TUITION. UM I
UNDERSTAND WHY CONTRACTING OUT
IS A UNION CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND
THAT. BUT IT IS NOT A BASIC
LABOR STANDARDS BECAUSE ANY KIND
OF CONTRACTING OUT WITH A
PRIVATE COMPANY BY LAW, THEY
MUST ADHERE TO ALL OF OUR LABOR
STANDARDS IN THE STATE. SO IT IS
FOR THESE REASONS THAT
UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T BE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEASURE TODAY.
I THINK IT'S IT ATTEMPTS TO
SOLVE SOME ISSUES IN A WAY
THAT'S WAY OUT OF PROPORTION. TO
THOSE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED. AND IF THERE ARE
SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT DO COME UP
OVER THE YEARS WITH THE
UNIVERSITY, I HOPE THAT WE CAN
BE PARTNERS AND WORKING WITH
THOSE WHO HAVE THOSE CONCERNS
AND WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE UNIVERSITY TO TRY TO WORK
THEM OUT AND RESOLVE THEM. AND
FOR THOSE REASONS, NOT A MEASURE
I CAN SUPPORT TODAY. ANY
FURTHER. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION
ON THIS MEASURE? ALL RIGHT,
SENATOR MENJIVAR. LOSE THIS
MEASURE. THIS IS TO THE TO BE
ADOPTED AND WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SENATORS GLASER GLASER. NO. WHEN
ALAN MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I MENJIVAR
MENJIVAR I HUMAN HAMBURG.
HAMBURG, I EVERYBODY HERE.
ALRIGHT THAT MEASURE FAILS WITH
THREE VOTES IN FAVOR FOR
RECONSIDERATION WITHOUT
OBJECTION, RECONSIDERATION
GRANTED, ALRIGHT. THAT COMPLETES
OUR WE HAVE BILLS, OAN CALLS
LET'S GO BACK TO THE ROLE. WE'RE
GOING TO START OFF WITH A C A
13. SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ITEM NUMBER ONE A. C 8 13,
WITH THE MOTION BE ADOPTED AS
AMENDED AND REFER THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE CHAIR
VOTED I ON THE VICE CHAIR VOTED
NO SENATORS, ALAN, ALAN. I
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE I NEWMAN I
HAMBURG, HAMBURG. I WON THAT
THAT MEASURES OUT 6 TO 1. NEXT
UP IS A SEE A ONE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AGUIAR-CURRY.
PLEASE OPEN THE ROLL MOTION IS
BE ADOPTED AND WE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CHAIR VOTED I AND THE VICE CHAIR
VOTED NO, SENATOR ALLEN. ALAN I
TO THAT MEASURES OUT 5 TO 2 THAT
COMPLETES THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS. THANK
YOU TO THE STAFF AND ALL THOSE
WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR WORK.
YOU'RE STILL WELCOME TO ADD YOUR
NAME TO THE RECORD IN ANY OF
THESE MEASURES, PLEASE. CHECK
OUR WEBSITE FOR THE
OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT. I
THINK OUR COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
YOUR GOOD WORK. AND WITH THAT
COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED.