THE ONLY ENERGY UTILITIES AND
COMMUNITY COMMUNICATIONS WILL
COME TO ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON
MORE ALMOST GOOD EVENING. SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON AND VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
TODAY'S HEARING THE PARTICIPANT
NUMBERS 8772 TO 6. 816387. AND
THE ACCESS CODE IS 736 TO 83 TO
736 TO 832. WE'RE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARING IN THE OLD
STREET BUILDING IN ROOM 1200, SO
I ENCOURAGE ALL OUR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TO COME TO THE CARING
ROOM SO WE CAN STOP KWAME AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE. AH WE HAVE
ONLY ONE BILL ON THE AGENDA
TODAY. SO BEFORE THE
PRESENTATION AND WHAT WE STILL
DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'RE
GOING TO START AS A SUBCOMMITTEE
. I SEE ASSEMBLYMAN EDUARDO
GARCIA IS HERE. UM HE'S HERE TO
PRESENT A B 13 73. UM I WANT
WORLD START AS A AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. SO
ZIMMERMAN GARCIA, YOU'RE WELCOME
TO PRESENT THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE
AND PROUD TO PRESENT A B 13 73
MEASURE ORIGINALLY PUT FORWARD
BY THE GOVERNOR IN JANUARY, BUT
ONE THAT HAS NOW UNDERGONE
EXTENSIVE REVIEW BY BOTH THE
ASSEMBLY. AND THE SENATE.
COMPROMISE PRESENTED BY THIS
BILL REFLECTS THE ENGAGEMENT OF
THE LEGISLATURE WITH THE
GOVERNOR, AND IT IS A STRONGER
POLICY PROPOSAL. AS A RESULT OF
THAT I WANT TO BEGIN BY
ACCEPTING ALL THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS OUTLINING PAGES, 15
AND 16 OF THE ANALYSIS INCLUDE
TWO TECHNICAL CHANGES AROUND THE
TERMS USED IN THE BILL. AS WELL
AS CLARIFICATION ON THE INTENT.
FUTURE BUDGET FUNDING AND
CLARIFICATION ON WHAT
CONSTRUCTION MEANS TO ADDRESS.
AN ISSUE RAISED BY THE LONG TERM
ZEMAN UNION. THANK THE HARD WORK
OF THE COMMITTEE AND IMPROVING
THIS BILL. THE CORE TO THIS
PROPOSAL IS THE CREATION OF A
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT ENTITY WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES, DWR. THIS IS A TOPIC
I HAVE ADVOCATED FOR YEARS. TO
TRY TO BRING HARDER TO PROCURE
LONG LEAD TIME RESOURCES ONLINE
, GEOTHERMAL AND, MORE RECENTLY
, THE HIGH INTEREST IN OFFSHORE
NGUYEN I HAVE OFTEN SAID THAT
OUR PROCUREMENT NEEDS TO WEIGH
BOTH LEAST COST AND BEST FIT, SO
WE DON'T HAVE GAPS THAT LEAD TO
RELIABILITY ISSUES. HAVING DWR
BE ABLE TO BUY THESE RESOURCES
WHEN OUR UTILITIES HAVEN'T BEEN
ABLE TO OR HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO IS
THE CHEAPEST AND MOST EFFICIENT
WAY TO GET THESE NEEDED
RESOURCES ONLINE. HAVE YOU THIS
BILL? WHILE COMPREHENSIVE IN
SCOPE TO BE EXACTLY WHAT THE
STATE NEEDS TO ENSURE
RELIABILITY. FOR THE COMING
DECADES. HAPPY TO BE JOINED
TODAY BY A JOINT AUTHOR OF OURS,
MR PHIL TING. AND WE ALSO HAVE
THE PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
ALICE REYNOLDS, WHO WILL BE
TESTIFYING ALONG WITH SCOTT
WITCH, WHO CAN SPEAK MORE TO
THIS PROPOSAL. AND JUST THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND
REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK DONE
BY THIS COMMITTEE. WELL ALLOW.
IF YOU ALLOW OUR COOPERATIVES.
FEW WORDS. THANK YOU, MR CHARLES
. I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR LEAD
AUTHOR SOME MEMBER GARCIA AND
UTILITIES CHAIR. I THINK THIS
PROPOSAL IS MUCH IMPROVED FROM
WHAT WE FIRST SAW WHEN THE
GOVERNOR RELEASED HIS TRAILER
BILL REALLY APPRECIATE THE
GOVERNOR GOVERNORS TEAM AS WELL
AS ALL THE SENATORS AND
LEGISLATIVE STAFF WHO REALLY
WORKED ON THIS BILL. UM THIS
BILL NOW IS, UH, BILL THAT'S
GONNA REALLY HELP US PROCURE
FUTURE CLEAN ENERGY SOURCES HELP
OUR REACH OUR CLEAN ENERGY GOALS
, BUT REALLY INVEST IN CLEAN
ENERGY TECHNOLOGY THAT PERHAPS
THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULDN'T HAVE
INVESTED IN AS WELL AS I O U'S
MOU POP. PUBLIC POWERS. NONE OF
THEM WOULD REALLY BE INVESTING
IN THIS TECHNOLOGY. SO THIS THIS
IS I THINK A PERFECT ROLE FOR
THE STATE. IT'S A TECHNOLOGY
THAT HAS AT LEAST A FIVE YEAR
LEAD. TIME HAS TO BE CLEAN. IT
REALLY ENSURES THAT WE WILL NOT
BE COMPETING AT ONE OF OUR MAJOR
CONCERNS WITH OTHER PROPOSALS
WILL BE COMPETING AGAINST ALL
THE OTHER. LOAD SERVING ENTITIES
PURCHASING POWER, WHETHER IT WAS
NATURAL GAS OR ANY ANY
PARTICULAR KIND OF POWER. WOULD
IT JUST BE RAISING THOSE PRICES?
I THINK THAT CONCERN HAS REALLY
BEEN ALLAYED BECAUSE MUCH OF
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS FUTURE
THINKING TECHNOLOGY YOU MIGHT
RECALL LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE
DEBATING AROUND THE PABLO AND
REINSTATING THAT POWER PLANT
THAT COMMUNITY. AT SOME POINT
WOULD LOVE TO BE INVOLVED IN
OFFSHORE WIND, AND I THINK THIS
PRESENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT
OFFSHORE WIND AS A PART OF THEIR
FUTURE IN PARTICULAR. THIS ALSO
HAS PROVISIONS AROUND
INTERCONNECTION. WE KNOW THAT'S
A MAJOR ISSUE ON INTERCONNECTION
AND NOT GETTING YOU KNOW OUR
HOMES, OUR BUILDINGS, OUR
OFFICES. ANYTHING YOU CAN
IMAGINE. INTERCONNECTED THIS IS
REALLY GOING TO HELP STREAMLINE
THAT, AND IT REALLY PROVIDES
SOME GREATER OVERSIGHT BY THE
PUC. A AS WELL OVER DIFFERENT
ENTITIES. SO WITH THAT REALLY
APPRECIATE THE HEARING IN
RESPECT FOR US RIVAL FOR A B 13
73 THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION CONSULTANT. LET'S
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. BRADFORD
BRADFORD HERE DELI DELI HERE.
ASHBY ASHBY HERE. BECKER BECKER
HERE. CABALLERO CABALLERO. HERE,
DAD. DURAZO. EGGMAN GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ HERE, GROVE. MCGUIRE
MEN. NEWMAN NEWMAN HERE, RUBIO.
PRESENT PRESENT CIERTO CIERTO
HERE, SKINNER STERN WILK. WILK
PRESENT. CHROME HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED. WE'VE HEARD FROM
OUR LEAD AUTHOR AND A JOINT
AUTHOR ON THIS MEASURE. NOW
WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES. THEY WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES EACH. I THINK YOU SAID
IT WAS PRESIDENT RENAULT'S AND
WHO'S THE OTHER ONE? SOME GOT
WATCH. SO, UH, AS YOU FIND
YOURSELF. YOU CAN COME TO THE
PODIUM RIGHT THERE, OR YOU CAN
TAKE A SEAT HERE. WHATEVER WORKS
BEST. GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD
EVENING, MR CHAIR, MR VICE
CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO A B 13 73. MY NAME IS
ALICE REYNOLDS. I'M THE
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. AS
YOU ALL KNOW, CALIFORNIA IS A
GLOBAL LEADER IN ADDRESSING THE
CLIMATE CRISIS AND THIS IS
REALLY EXEMPLIFIED IN THE ENERGY
STATES ENERGY SECTOR. WHERE WE
HAVE NOT ONLY CODIFIED AMBITIOUS
, CLEAN ENERGY TARGETS, BUT
WE'RE ACTUALLY ACHIEVING THEM.
THE NEXT PHASE OF OUR CLEAN
ENERGY EVOLUTION, ACHIEVING THE
STATE'S CLEAN ZERO CARBON
RESOURCE ELECTRICITY TARGETS,
INCLUDING 100% CLEAN ENERGY BY
2045 REQUIRES NEW POLICY TOOLS
AND APPROACHES TO FACILITATE
ACHIEVING THESE GOALS THE
ADMINISTRATION ORIGINALLY PUT
FORWARD TO THE LEGISLATURE,
SEVERAL PROPOSALS THAT ARE NOW
INCORPORATED. INTO A B 13 73. AS
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER NOTED THE
THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE
DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW CLEAN
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM CENTER
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM. SORRY TO
PROCURE NEEDED DIVERSE CLEAN
ENERGY RESOURCES, THE CREATION
OF A CAPACITY PAYMENT CONSTRUCT
TO RESENT TO REIMBURSE THE STATE
STRATEGIC ELECTRICITY
RELIABILITY RESERVE WHEN IT IS
RELIED ON FOR RELIABILITY.
STRENGTHENING OF OUR EXISTING
CORE ENERGY RESOURCE PLANNING
AND PROCUREMENT PROGRAMS TO
ENSURE THAT ELECTRIC RETAIL
SAILORS ARE DELIVERING ON THEIR
CLEAN ENERGY AND ELECTRIC
SERVICE RELIABILITY OBLIGATIONS.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPEDITE
NEW ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS THAT ARE TRULY NEEDED
TO HAVE CLEAN ELECTRICITY
AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED IT AND
WHERE WE NEED IT. THE FIRST TWO
PROPOSALS THAT I DESCRIBED ABOVE
ARE PERFORMANCE BASED POLICY
TOOLS THAT ARE ONLY TRIGGERED IF
THE STATE'S ELECTRIC RETAIL
SELLERS ARE UNABLE TO PROCURE
AND ACHIEVE A DIVERSIFIED
PORTFOLIO OF ELECTRIC OF ENERGY
RESOURCES AND FALLS SHORT AND
PROCURING ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO
MEET ELECTRIC SERVICE
RELIABILITY REQUIREMENTS. THE
THIRD PROPOSAL IMPROVES THE
INTERPLAY BETWEEN THE STATES
ENERGY RESOURCE PROCUREMENT AND
PLANNING PROGRAMS, THEIR
RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD
RESOURCE ADEQUACY PROGRAM AND
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLANNING
PROGRAM, CREATING FAIR
REGULATORY TREATMENT ACROSS ALL
ELECTRIC RETAIL SELLERS. FINALLY
THE LAST PROPOSAL IS CONSTRUCTED
TO ACCELERATE THE RESPONSIBLE
DEVELOPMENT OF NEW ELECTRIC
TRANSMISSION PROJECTS THAT ARE
NEEDED TO MEET OUR CLEAN ENERGY
AND ELECTRIC SERVICE RELIABILITY
OBJECTIVES. OVERALL THESE ENERGY
POLICY PROPOSED PROPOSALS HAVE
BEEN PUBLICLY EVALUATED OVER THE
LAST SIX MONTHS AND HAVE BEEN
ENHANCED ALONG THE WAY TO
ADDRESS STAKEHOLDER AND
LEGISLATIVE FEEDBACK AND
CONCERNS WHAT YOU NOW HAVE
BEFORE YOU INCLUDE NOTABLE
MODIFICATIONS TO THESE PROPOSALS
SINCE THEY WERE INTRODUCED, AND
THESE MODIFICATIONS INCLUDE A
SUNSET DATE FOR THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM. DEFINED
UNIVERSE OF DIVERSE CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES THAT MAY BE PROCURED
THROUGH THE CENTRAL PROCUREMENT
MECHANISM, WHICH EXPLICITLY
PROHIBITS FOSSIL FUEL RESOURCES.
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ON THE
USE AND OUTCOMES OF THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM. AND
REQUIREMENTS THAT COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM ARE TIED
DIRECTLY TO THE USE OF THIS TOOL
, AND THE COSTS ARE FAIRLY
ALLOCATED. THESE CHANGES ARE
WELCOME ADDITIONS AND MAKE FOR
AN IMPROVED SET OF STATE ENERGY
PROPOSALS TOGETHER, THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE
LEGISLATURE CAN MOVE FORWARD,
MOVE THESE PROPOSALS FORWARD AND
SIGNAL TO THE WORLD THAT
CALIFORNIA IS READY AND WORKING
TO BUILD THE RELIABLE AND CLEAN
ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE
FUTURE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS
PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT
REYNOLDS WATCH. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS SCOTT WEST ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS TO CALIFORNIA STATE PIPE
TRADES COUNCIL, THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION OF UTILITY EMPLOYEES,
THE WESTERN STATES COUNCIL OF
SHEET METAL WORKERS AND THE OPA
. UM MEMBERS. WE SINCERELY
BELIEVE THAT THIS MAY BE ONE OF
THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL CLIMATE
BILLS THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON. DURING
YOUR CAREERS, AND THAT IS NOT
SIMPLY HYPERBOLE. THE BIGGEST
THREAT TO US MEETING OUR CLIMATE
GOALS BETWEEN NOW AND 2045 RATE
IMPACTS TO RATEPAYERS. ONE ONLY
NEEDS TO READ NATIONAL NEWS THIS
PAST WEEK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON
IN GERMANY ROUTERS. FOREIGN
POLICY DOT COM. SEVERAL OTHERS
HAVE COMMENTED ON THE GREENLAND
SH THAT'S OCCURRING IN GERMANY
BECAUSE OF THE RATE INCREASES
FROM THEIR RAPID INCREASE INTO
RENEWABLE ENERGY. BY USING A
CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT PROCESS
. WELL, LET ME JUST SAY
PARENTHETICALLY. I THINK THE
COMMITTEE IS WELL AWARE THAT WE
HAVE TO ADD UPWARDS OF 55,000
MEGAWATTS OF RENEWABLE POWER IN
ORDER TO MEET OUR 2045 GOALS.
THAT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY
. THE CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT
MECHANISM IS THE ONLY WAY TO
BRING DOWN THOSE COSTS ON THESE
LARGE, COMPLEX, LARGE, LONG LEAD
TIME PROJECTS IN ORDER TO
MINIMIZE THE RATE IMPACTS AND
LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE
SEVERAL YEARS AGO. MY CLIENT
SPONSORED A BILL PROPOSED TO
BUILD THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GARCIA AUTHORED. TO HAVE DWR
PROCURE A LARGE PUMP STORAGE
PROJECT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
WE HAD THE INVESTMENT BANKERS DO
AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE RAPE
SAVINGS TO RATEPAYERS WOULD BE
ON THAT ONE PROJECT BETWEEN
HAVING THE I O U'S PURCHASE IT
GIVEN THEIR DAMAGED CREDIT
RATINGS. OR HAVING DWR USE ALL
THE ABILITY OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA TO FINANCE IT AT A
MUCH LOWER COST AND THE SAVINGS
OF THE LIFE OF THAT PROJECT,
WHICH WAS DOCUMENTED
LEGISLATIVELY WAS $2.8 BILLION.
$2.8 BILLION SAVINGS TO
RATEPAYERS ON THAT ONE. PROJECT
UM, THIS WON'T BE THE FIX FOR
EVERY SINGLE UTILITY GRADE
PROJECT, BUT IT WILL ABSOLUTELY
BE ESSENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO BRING
DOWN THE COSTS OF THOSE PROJECTS
. AND IF WE DON'T MEAN IF WE
DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE
IMPACTS ON RATEPAYERS, UH, WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM COME
2030 BEYOND MAINTAINING PUBLIC
SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE
HERE. SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD
URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND NOW
WE'LL MOVE TO WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM 1200. JUST SIMPLY STATE
YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION.
MAUREEN PANETTA ON BEHALF OF
INTERNATIONAL LONGSHORE AND
WAREHOUSE UNION, WHERE THANK
THIS COMMITTEE FOR SUPPORT IN
REACHING AGREEMENT, ENSURING THE
DIALOGUE W CONTINUES TO WELCOME
THIS PROJECT AT THE PORTS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. DECISIONS MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BOB GERARD, ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY
WATER AUTHORITY IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHORS AND THE COMMITTEE AND
THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU.
MR CHAIR MEMBERS, BRIAN WHITE ON
BEHALF OF OFFSHORE IN
CALIFORNIA. WE ALSO AREN'T
SUPPORTED THE BILL AND LIKE TO
THANK THE AUTHOR ADMINISTRATION,
FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AS WELL, THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
DIANA LIMON. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
WOMEN RECRUITMENT AND SUPPORT
FOR I B W LOCAL 11 LOS ANGELES.
WE SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARIE
DAVIS, A BUSINESS REFEREE BW
LOCAL 11 IN LOS ANGELES. AND WE
SUPPORT AN I VOTE ON THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
JACKIE WALKMAN AND BUSINESS
REFEREE BW LOCAL 11 AND WE
SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD EVENING
. MY NAME IS KELLY OLIVER
BUSINESS REP FOR LOCAL 11. I
BMW. WE SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD
EVENING. MY NAME IS TOMMY
ZELENSKY WITH BW, LOCAL 11 LOS
ANGELES AND WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS CRYSTAL HERRERA. UM
WITH THE MBW LOCAL 11 AND WE
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. HELLO TO ALL MY NAME IS
JACOB DRUNK OSA? MAYBE W LOCAL
11. AND FOR THE RECORD, I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD EVENING,
HONORABLE CHAIR AND UTILITY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS AL
48. I'M WITH I B W LOCAL UNION
12 45, AND I RISE IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING. MARK WOULD I BE W LOCAL
12 45 SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M KIM
COMMODITY I B W LOCAL 12 45 AND
I ALSO SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. GOOD EVENING, MARK GOODWIN.
I BW 12 45. AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING
SHOUTS STEVENS, W 12, 45 AND
SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING. EILEEN
PURCELL. I BW 12 45, SENIOR
ADVISOR TO OUR BUSINESS MANAGER.
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS
BILL. DANICA BYNUM. LOCAL I B E
W 12 45 AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL.
GOOD EVENING. I'M SEAMUS CAROL.
I'M ELDORADO COUNTY VOTER AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. I'M BRIAN
CARROLL, SEAMUS DAD AND PRODUCT
BW 45 MEMBER AND I ENCOURAGE
YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AS
WELL. HELLO, LUMINAL FROM LOCAL
12 45. I SUPPORT THIS BILL. EVEN
STONE CYBER LOCAL 12, 45 AND
SUPPORT. DYLAN GOTTFRIED, I BW
12 45 IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
HI I'M GINA BRIT FROM I B W
LOCAL 12 45. AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. RAY BAN FILTHY
BW 12 45, AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.
BANK CONTROLLERS. I BW 25 IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING. MY NAME IS ANA ROSA
VALENZUELA WITH I B W LOCAL 12
45, AND I AM IN SUPPORT THIS
BILL. YEP. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME
IS DULCE JIMENEZ AND I AM HERE
WITH I B W 12 45. I ALSO SUPPORT
THIS BILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. GOOD EVENING. I'M SHELBY
WADSWORTH FROM I B E W 12 35 AND
I SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD
EVENING. MY NAME IS MARSHALL
BURNETT. I'M WITH I B W LOCAL 12
45, AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL.
HELLO FRANCISCO FERREYRA, VW 12
45 AND FULL SUPPORT. GOOD
EVENING, FRED ABBOUD. I MEAN, W
LOCAL 12 45, AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. LEAH BARROWS ON BEHALF OF
THE INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS
ASSOCIATION. FIRST I WANT TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE CHAIR AND
STAFF AUTHORS, OFFICE AND STAFF
AND ALL OF THE POWERS THAT BE
THAT HELPED GET THE TECHNICAL
AMENDMENTS AS SET FORTH IN THE
ANALYSIS INTO FRUITION. WE
CURRENTLY HAVE AN OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION AND LOOK
FORWARD TO MOVING TO NEUTRAL
ONCE THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN
PRINT. THANK YOU. MM SUPPORTERS
. GOOD EVENING, DARRYL LITTLE
JUNIOR ON BEHALF OF THE NATURAL
RESOURCES, DEFENSE COUNCIL AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. PREVIOUS
CHAIR MEMBERS. MIKE MONNING
GONNA BE ABLE TO STAY BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL
AND SUPPORT GOOD EVENING CHAIR
AND MEMBERS MATT CRIMMINS HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
NEVADA CONFERENCE OF OPERATING
ENGINEERS WERE IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. GOOD EVENING, AGNOSTIC
HERNANDEZ ON BEHALF OF TURN AND
SUPPORTED THE BILL. GOOD EVENING
CHAIR AND MEMBERS ERIN GRIZZARD
WITHIN ENERGY, ONE OF THE
CENTRAL COAST COAST LEASEHOLDERS
IN SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING, TATUM
MACKLER ON BEHALF OF VINEYARD
OFFSHORE, ONE OF THE LEAST
HOLDERS ON THE NORTHERN COAST IN
STRONG SUPPORT. HI MELISSA
CORTEZ ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA WIND ENERGY
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. GOOD
EVENING, REBECCA MARCUS ON
BEHALF OF THE UNION OF CONCERNED
SCIENTISTS AND SUPPORT GOOD
EVENING. SHARON MEMBERS JENNIFER
FEARING ON BEHALF OF THE MODERN
BAIT RUNAWAY BAY AQUARIUM, WHICH
APPRECIATES THE INCLUSION OF
LANGUAGE AIMED AT DEVELOPING AND
FUNDING BASELINE SCIENCE AND
MONITORING TO HELP AVOID AND
MITIGATE POTENTIAL ADVERSE
IMPACTS OF OFFSHORE WIND ON
CALIFORNIA'S MARINE, WILDLIFE
AND ECOSYSTEMS. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING. MCKINLEY THOMPSON
MORLEY ON BEHALF OF GOLDEN
STATE, WIND, CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
LEASEHOLDER AND SUPPORT. GOOD
EVENING, MOLLY KROLL WITH
AMERICAN CLEAN POWER ASSOCIATION
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIRMAN. NAME IS DAN
JACOBSON WITH IT WITH
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA AND
ELECTED OFFICIALS PROTECTING
AMERICA AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR
CHAIR AND SENATORS. ROSANNA
CARPACCIO. ELLIOT HERE ON BEHALF
OF ECUADOR WIND, WHICH IS ALSO A
CENTRAL COAST, LEASEHOLDER AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ADAM
SMITH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON SUPPORT. MATT
KLOPFENSTEIN INN, A TWEENER
POSITION ON BEHALF OF THE
BIOENERGY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA ARE CONCERNED ONLY
WITH THE DEFINITION OF ELIGIBLE
RESOURCES. WE FULLY APPRECIATE
AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF
THIS PROGRAM FOR CERTAIN TYPES
OF RESOURCES. WE JUST WANT TO
ENSURE THAT MOVING FORWARD THIS
DOESN'T SET PRECEDENT ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, TAKING CERTAIN RESOURCES,
BIOENERGY HYDROGEN OFF THE TABLE
. THOSE ARE CRITICAL TO REDUCING
METHANE TO AVOIDING AG BURNING.
HELPING REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK, SO
WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT THIS
IS NOT A PRECEDENT SETTING TERM
THAT HAS BEEN USED THERE, BUT
AGAIN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY
IT'S BEING USED IN THIS
SITUATION FOR THESE CERTAIN
PROJECTS. THANK YOU. MADDIE
MUNSON ON BEHALF OF THE
AGRICULTURAL ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION. SIMILARLY IN A
TWEENER POSITION AND JUST ALIGN
MY COMMENTS WITH MY COLLEAGUE
WHO JUST SPOKE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. JULIE MALINOWSKI BALL ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA BIOMASS
ENERGY ALLIANCE. ALSO BETWEEN ER
ALSO ALIGN OUR COMMENTS WITH THE
BIOENERGY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA. I'M MR CHAIR. SHAWN
MCNEIL, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
CHOICE ASSOCIATION WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR AND CO AUTHOR FOR ALL
THEIR HARD WORK AND THEIR STAFF
, AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE. WE
WITH THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO STAY
NEUTRAL ON THE THANKS LILLIAN
MARVIS WITH EMC, CALIFORNIA'S
FIRST COMMUNITY CHOICE
AGGREGATOR. THANK YOU. ECHOING
SHAWN'S COMMENTS TO THE AUTHOR,
CO AUTHOR AND COMMITTEE STAFF.
ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS WITH THE
AMENDMENTS. WE ARE ALSO
MAINTAINING A NEUTRAL POSITION.
THANK YOU. ALICIA PRIEGO ON
BEHALF OF SANDALS. THEY CLEAN
ENERGY AND WITH THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS WILL MOVE FROM
OPPOSING LESS AMENDED TO
NEUTRAL. THANK YOU. CATHERINE
BRANDENBURG, REPRESENTING
CINEMA, CLEAN POWER AGAIN, WE
ECHO THE COMMENTS OF HEALTHY CIA
WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. WE
REMAIN NEUTRAL. GOOD AFTERNOON,
JENNIFER TANNEHILL WITH AARON
REID AND ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF
SILICON VALLEY. CLEAN ENERGY
WITH THE AMENDMENTS. WE ARE
NEUTRAL AS WELL. THANK YOU. YEAH
MAN CHILD WITH CLEAN POWER
ALLIANCE ALIGNING WITH KELSEY,
CIA. THANKS. MR CHAIR. MARK
FINSTER, MAKER FOR PENINSULA,
CLEAN ENERGY AND VALLEY CLEAN
ENERGY, ECHOING THE PREVIOUS
COMMENTS. WE REMAIN NEUTRAL WITH
THE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
CARON LING ON BEHALF OF THE
COUNTIES OF HUMBOLDT IN SAN LUIS
, THAT HE LOCATIONS FOR THE
FIRST SET OF CALL AREAS
GENERALLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
OFFSHORE WIND BEING DEVELOPED IN
THEIR COMMUNITIES. THEY ARE
CONCERNED THAT THIS BILL DOES
NOT INCLUDE A DIRECT MECHANISM
TO RECOVER THE IMPACTS THAT WILL
UNDOUBTEDLY HAPPENED DIRECTLY TO
THE ACTUAL LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
YES, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS
RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS, BUT NOTHING ABOUT
THOSE IMPACTS. SO WE'RE LOOKING
FOR SOMETHING TO HELP THEM. BE
ASSURED THERE WON'T BE A
DAMAGES. THEY CAN'T RECOVER WITH
THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS. EDUARDO MARTINEZ ON
BEHALF BRIGHT LINE DEFENSE
PROJECT, ANOTHER TWEENER
POSITION, BRANDON DEFENSES AND
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ORGANIZATION THAT DOES A LOT OF
WORK ON OFFSHORE WIND SIMILAR TO
THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. WE ARE
PLEASED TO SEE AN ORGANIZATION
IN YOUR POSITION. WE'D LIKE TO
SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK DONE
TO ENSURE THAT FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES ARE PROTECTED
SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING,
ALEJANDRO SOLIS ON BEHALF OF THE
CLEAN POWER CAMPAIGN AND SUPPORT
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
1200 SUPPORT. SEE NONE KNOWLEDGE
. GO TO OPPOSITION, DO YOU? WE
HAVE PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION WILL HAVE TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES, NOT YOU'LL BE
AFFORDED FOUR MINUTES. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. I DON'T THINK ON
THE AMOUNT OF TIME PATRICK WELSH
WITH THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION FIRST WANT
TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATED
SOMETHING MEMBER GARCIA'S
THOUGHTFUL USE OF THE POLICY
COMMITTEE PROCESS TO ANALYZE
THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES. WE ALSO
APPRECIATE HIS OFFICES
CONSIDERATION, ALONG WITH
COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE, AND
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS SEEN
RAISE CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THIS
YEAR. HOWEVER SEEM A REMAINS
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED AT THIS
TIME. OUR CORE CONCERN IS THIS.
IT IS THAT THE BILL REFERENCES
IN THE PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE
CC EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS POWERED
IMPOSED CAPACITY PAYMENTS AND
PUBLIC ELECTRIC UTILITIES
STANDARDS SET BY THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, PHÐ
USER REGULATED BY LOCAL ELECTED
OFFICIALS AND NOT SUBJECT TO PUC
REGULATION, CMU A THINKS IT IS
FAIR TO MEASURE PUBLICLY ON
ELECTRIC UTILITIES AGAINST THEIR
STANDARDS AND HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE. BUT THAT IS NOT
REASONABLE TO HOLD THEM TO CPUC
STANDARDS. IT'S OUR
UNDERSTANDING AND CONVERSATIONS
WITH COLLEAGUES IN THE ASSEMBLY
AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT A
B 13 73 IS NOT INTENDED TO
CREATE A NEW AUTHORITY FOR THE
PUC WITH RESPECT TO PHÐ US, AND
WE BELIEVE THE BILL COULD AND
SHOULD BE CLARIFIED TO THAT END
IN CLOSING SEAM, UM, LOOKS
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO BE
PARTNERS AND MAINTAINING GRID
LARA RELIABILITY NOW AND INTO
THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION OF 13 73 NOT IN THE
ROOM MODERATE. LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT AND OR OPPOSITION.
TO 13 73. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PHONES
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT, PLEASE
PRESS 10 ON YOUR KEYPAD NOW
OPERATOR WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A
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QUEUE WHEN YOU HEAR LANE NUMBER
CALLED. PROCEED WITH YOUR
COMMENT ONCE AGAIN FOR COMMENTS
, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO HAD
THIS TIME AND ONE MOMENT MR.
CHAIR FOR US TO GET THOSE LINE
NUMBERS GATHERED. AND WE'LL GO
FIRST TO LINE 15 LINE 15.
AFTERNOON THIS IS NANCY NANCY
KUSHNER RODRIGUEZ ON BEHALF OF
THE BUSINESS NETWORK PROCESS FOR
WIND IN SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU NEXT WITNESS. NEXT IS LINE
23, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS. MICHAELA
ELDER ON BEHALF OF HEALTH START
AND THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
25 IS GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS
CHARITY IS THE ADDRESS OF THE
PUBLIC ADVOCATE OFFICE. THE
INDEPENDENT BRANCH OF THE PSC IN
SUPPORT OF MAYBE 13 73. THANK
YOU. ONE LAST REMINDER FOR
COMMENTS BY PHONE PRESS 10 WE'LL
GO NOW TO LINE 20, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THIS
IS NOT THE ON BEHALF OF VERBAL
ENERGY, A PIONEERING CHEN
TYPOLOGY AND THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE
. THERE ARE JUST THE RESOURCES.
HE SUPPORTED THIS BILL IN THE
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT LONGLEY
RESOURCES. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR.
WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL COLLEAGUES
IN QUÊ. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO
ADDITIONAL CALLERS AND QUÊ WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR. THERE'S
A LOT OF TALK ABOUT AMENDMENTS.
I WONDER IF THOSE COULD GET
CLARIFIED FOR US, OKAY? AND WE
CAN DO THAT AS WELL. LET ME
STATE. WHAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE
FOR MEMBERS CLARIFICATION. UM
AGAIN. THIS BILL MAKES NUMEROUS
CHANGES TO ELECTRICITY POLICY
AND MOST NOTABLY AUTHORIZED THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES TO
SERVE AS CENTRAL PROCUREMENT AND
INDEED TO PROCURE ENERGY
RESOURCES IN ORDER TO HELP THE
STATE MEET ITS RENEWABLE AND
ZERO CARBON ENERGY RESOURCES AND
RELIABILITY GOES TO BILL ALSO
INCLUDES NUMEROUS RELATED AND
SEPARATE PROVISIONS. THOSE
AMENDMENTS ARE TECHNICAL
CLARIFICATION AMENDMENTS TO ADD
THE WORDS AND DIVERSE RESOURCES
TO PUBLIC UTILITIES CODE SECTION
454. AH 0.51 D, WHICH WAS
INADVERTENTLY LEFT OUT.
SECONDLY, ADD A NEWS SECTION B
SECTION 16. I SHOULD SAY OF THE
BILL AND REPLACE EXISTING B AND
C IN ORDER TO CLARIFY INTENT
LANGUAGE REGARDING THE FUTURE
FUNDING FOR COASTAL COMMISSION
RELATED TO PERMITTING AND TO
REVIEW OF OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY
PROJECTS. TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS
TO SECTION EIGHT OF THE BILL.
PUBLIC UTILITIES CODE SECTION
454 THAT FIVE TO EACH ONE. A
REPLACED DIVERSE, CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES WITH ELIGIBLE ENERGY
RESOURCES AND UPDATE ALL RELATED
REFERENCES THROUGHOUT THE BILL.
AND CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS TO
AMEND SECTION 808 TO 0 OF THE
WATER CODE TO DEFINE
CONSTRUCTION FOR THEM. PURPOSES
OF THESE ENERGY RESOURCES
PROJECTS, SO ASKED TO
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CONSTRUCTION
WORK TO BUILD THE ENERGY
RESOURCES PROJECTS AND WORK
RELATED TO LOADING, OFFLOADING
CARGO AND TWO FROM VESSELS AND
MOVEMENT OF CARGO IN THE PORT
FACILITIES. THOSE ARE BEFORE
AMENDMENTS. THAT WE HAVE. AS OF
TODAY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
THANK YOU, SENATOR RUBIO. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR, AND I ALSO WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR. WELL, FIRST
OF ALL I KNOW WHEN I SEE SO MANY
UNION MEMBERS HERE, I KNOW THAT
THIS IS A GOOD THING IN TERMS OF
JOB CREATION AND OPPORTUNITY FOR
MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. BUT
YOU KNOW I DO HAVE A QUESTION
AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF LATE IN
THE GAME, BUT IT'S JUST THE
QUESTION. IF YOU CAN HELP ME
UNDERSTAND, I KNOW THAT THERE
WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ABOUT THE
BENEFITS TO DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. AND THERE WAS, UM I
THINK IT WAS SHARED THAT IN
MASSACHUSETTS AND OTHER AREAS,
THEY HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE
ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE
NOT LEFT BEHIND AND PARTICULAR.
HOW DO WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY?
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY
ARE PART OF THE PROCESS AND THAT
THE BENEFITS DIRECTLY GO TO
THESE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
SOUGHT TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND
SEE IF YOU CAN SHARE? UM WHAT
HAPPENED AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE? THERE WERE
SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PUT
FORWARD BY BELIEVE, BRIGHT,
BRIGHT LINE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
IN THE AREA OF PROTECTING
COMMUNITIES COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
THERE WAS LANGUAGE THAT WAS
STRUCK WHERE WE FELT THAT WE MAY
HAVE MET THEM TO A CERTAIN LEVEL
OF WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR. UM
WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO
CONTINUING THAT DIALOGUE, BUT WE
ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE LIMITED ON
TIME AS IT RELATES TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. WE RECENTLY
RECEIVED ALSO A LETTER FROM
LEADERSHIP COUNCIL. WHO ALONG
THE SAME LINES AS WANTING TO
ENSURE THAT THERE IS A STRONGER
LANGUAGE TO PROTECT. COMMUNITIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA, WHERE
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SPECIFIC
TECHNOLOGIES AND ARE COMMITTED
TO WORKING WITH HIM AS WELL. I
THINK WE'RE CRUNCHED ON TIME,
BUT ALSO, UM THOSE WERE
REQUESTED CAME IN LITERALLY IN
THE LAST 48 HOURS, SPECIFICALLY
, THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL ONE
COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THEM. UM WE HAVE CHAMPIONS
ISSUES REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ISSUES AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE SEE DIRECT BENEFITS OF
THESE TYPES OF EFFORTS AND
INVESTMENTS. CASE IN POINT, THE
WORK BEING DONE THAT YOU ALL
HAVE SUPPORTED IN LITHIUM VALLEY
AS IT RELATES TO LITHIUM
RECOVERY AND MAKING SURE THAT
THOSE BENEFITS ARE DIRECT
BENEFICIARIES SO COMMITTED TO
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT
PARTICULAR AREA. THANK YOU FOR
THE ANSWER, BUT I ALSO WANT TO.
I THINK ONE OF THE I THINK I
SAID GARCIA AND SOMEBODY ELSE
WHO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE
IMPACTS TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
HOW THEY THINK THAT THERE MIGHT
BE IMPACTS IN THEY WILL. THEY
WILL NEED HELP IN THAT REGARD
MAY BE RECOVERING AND HELPING
THOSE LOCAL COMMUNITIES. WHAT
WOULD YOU ADD TO THAT TO THOSE,
UM PEOPLE THAT DISCUSSED THAT WE
THAT WE WON'T LEAVE YOU BEHIND
THAT WE WILL. CONSIDER THOSE
PERSPECTIVES THAT YOU'VE JUST
SHARED TODAY. AND IN THE RECENT
DAYS REGARDING THIS AGREEMENT
THAT'S BEEN MADE BY THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, THE SENATE
AND THE ASSEMBLY AND YOU KNOW
OUR WORK, UM, HAS BEEN CENTERED
AROUND THE ISSUE OF
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES UP AND
DOWN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND
SO LOOKING AT YOU DIRECTLY AND
TELLING YOU THAT THAT'S WHAT
WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THANK
YOU. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF
ALL. WE'RE ASKING JUST TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS THAT THE
SOLICITATION PROCESS REALLY
KEEPS THAT FRONT OF FRIEND OF
MINE JUST AS AS YOU ARE A LOT OF
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE DO SO.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. LAST LETTERS
WANT TO SAY THAT? YOU KNOW, THIS
IS CLEARLY A GREAT GREAT BILL,
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE
GOVERNMENT EVERYONE THAT WORKED
ON ALL THE AMENDMENTS. I THINK
AT ONE POINT, THERE IS A LOT OF
DISAGREEMENT AND THE FACT THAT
EVERYONE HAS COME TOGETHER, AND
MOST PEOPLE THAT WERE OPPOSED
ARE NOW NEW CHOICE, SAID JUST AN
INDICATION OF THE HARD WORK NOT
ONLY IF THE AUTHOR, BUT THE
CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF,
SO THANK YOU WITH THAT. I SAY
THINGS. THANK YOU, SENATOR
REBECCA. THANK YOU JUST WANTED
TO SAY A FEW WORDS AS CO AUTHOR
AND THANK THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FOR THEIR WORK. THIS IS
INITIALLY IMPORTANT BILL FOR
CLEAN ENERGY AND CLEAN
RELIABILITY HAVE BEEN TALKING TO
THIS COMMITTEE FOR SINCE I
STARTED HERE LAST THREE YEARS
ABOUT 24 7 CLEAN ENERGY, AND
THIS BILL IS AN IMPORTANT STEP
FOR SUPPORTING THE KIND OF
DIVERSE CLEAN RESOURCES WE NEED
TO GET THERE. HOWEVER MANY OF
THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES REQUIRE
LARGE INVESTMENTS WITH LONG
COMPLEX DEVELOPMENTS TIME TIMES,
AND IT'S DIFFICULT. RISKY FOR
ANYONE UTILITY OR C. C. A TO
MAKE A LARGE ENOUGH PURCHASE
COMMITMENT TO GET THESE PROJECTS
FINANCED AND BUILT. I KNOW SOME
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT
THE SCOPE OF THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT AUTHORITY WERE
GRANTING AND I DO HEAR THOSE
CONCERNS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE
WANT TO LET UTILITIES AND MAKE
THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT
TO PROCURE AS LONG AS THEY'RE
MEETING THEIR RPS AND OUR
REQUIREMENTS. HOWEVER WE NEED
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT AND LIMITED
CASES TO LAUNCH NEW TECHNOLOGIES
LIKE OFFSHORE WIND, AND I
BELIEVE WE HAVE STRUCK THE RIGHT
BALANCE WITH THIS BILL. IT
DOESN'T LIMIT CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY
, WHICH GIVES A PC FLEXIBILITY,
BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT
GUARDRAILS. I DO WANT TO MENTION
AS OUR PRESIDENT MENTIONED. WE
NEED TO RAPIDLY OF THE
COMMISSION. WE NEED TO RAPIDLY
EXPAND OUR TRANSMISSION CAPACITY
AS WELL TO DELIVER THESE NEW
CLEAN RESOURCES TO OUR CITIES,
AND THIS BILL SIGNIFICANTLY WILL
SPEED UP THE TRANSMISSION
PERMITTING PROCESS. BY
SHORTENING A DUPLICATIVE REVIEW
BY THE PUC OF WHETHER
TRANSMISSION LINE IS NEEDED AND
IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST EVEN
AFTER IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY
CAISO. SO THIS WAS SOMETHING
ORIGINALLY MY BILL SB 4 20. I'M
GLAD THAT MADE IT INTO THE FINAL
VERSION OF THIS BILL AS WELL, UM
, I THINK IN IN IN RELEVANT YOU
ARE MY COLLEAGUE. UM WHO JUST
SPOKE. THIS BILL DOES MAKE
INVESTMENTS IN CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES ARE PAIRED WITH
SIGNIFICANT HIGH ROAD
PROTECTIONS AND ASSURANCES FOR
WORKERS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
SUPPLY CHAIN. ADDED INVESTMENT,
ENVIRONMENT MONITORING AND
IDENTIFYING FUTURE MITIGATION
FOR ANY IMPACTS OFFSHORE WIND
WOULD HAVE ON ENVIRONMENTAL,
TRIBAL COMMUNITIES AND
LOCALITIES. SO THANK THE OUR OWN
SAFFRON PROTESTS OFFICE TO THE
AUTHOR AND TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
THE THOUGHTFUL WORK. WE DO NEED
TO MOVE AROUND AWAY FROM THE
DIRTY PATCHWORK OF SOLUTIONS
LIKE ONCE THROUGH COOLING
PLANTS, AND, UM AS WE MOVE
TOWARDS THIS STRATEGIC RELIABLY
RESERVED, THIS BUILDS AN
IMPORTANT STEP. I THINK THERE'S
MORE THINGS WE NEED TO DO GOING
FORWARD TO MAKE THAT EFFORT. BUT
THIS BILL IS A VERY IMPORTANT
STEP AND PROUD TO BE CO AUTHOR
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK
ON IT. THANK YOU, SENATOR STERN.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I AM NOT
CURRENTLY A CO AUTHOR, BUT, UM,
IN RECOGNITION OF THE IMMENSE
EFFORT, THE DIVERSE COALITION
AND ALL YOUR YEARS OF MARCHING
THIS FORWARD, I WOULD I WOULD
LOVE TO BE ADDED AS ONE AS THE
COMMITTEE TAKES AMENDMENTS IF
THAT'S APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME,
UM I THINK YOU'RE. YOU PUT IT
YOU YOU PUT A LOT OF PIECES
TOGETHER. UM BUT WHAT? I JUST
WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE
RECORD AND LESS SO POTENTIALLY
ABOUT THE AUTHOR AND MAYBE MORE
SO TO GET THE ADMINISTRATION'S
PERSPECTIVE TO SENATOR RUBY AND
SENATOR BECKER'S POINT, UM YOU
KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING
RIGHT NOW? AN ENERGY POLICY THAT
GIVE ME SOME PAUSE ABOUT THE
EFFICACY OF OUR STRATEGY.
DOUBLING DOWN ON GAS PROCUREMENT
RIGHT NOW THROUGH A $2.4 BILLION
DWR CONTRACT. WHILE THE CLEAN
ENERGY RELIABILITY INVESTMENT
PLAN STALLS OR SITS OR WEIGHTS
OVER A BILLION DOLLARS SITTING
THERE DOING NOTHING SITTING,
WAITING, MICROGRIDS SITTING
WAITING ELIZA CANYON BEING
REFILLED BEFORE VERY EYES. UM I
WANT TO REALIZE THIS VISION AND
I THINK WE CAN GET STARTED
QUICKLY ENOUGH. SO TIME IS OF
THE ESSENCE. BUT I WAS HOPING TO
GET SOME PERSPECTIVE, I THINK,
MAYBE LESS SO FROM THE AUTHOR
AND MORE SO FROM THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION WOULD STRIP
WHOEVER FROM THE ADMINISTRATION
ABOUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON
PUSHING THE CLEAN ENERGY
RELIABILITY INVESTMENT PLAN
FORWARD. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE JUST GOING TO SORT OF
DIFFER AND KICKED DOWN THE ROAD
AND MAYBE EVENTUALLY GET TO
START SPENDING DOLLARS NOW. UM
NOT NECESSARILY THROUGH THIS
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM. BUT
THROUGH ALL THE OTHER BUDGET
DOLLARS THAT I SEE OUR BUDGET
CHAIR FROM THE ASSEMBLY, EBELING
NEGOTIATED AND PUSH FORWARD LAST
YEAR AS PART OF OUR DIABLO DEAL.
UM HOW DOES ALL THAT FIT IN? IS
THAT JUST WORK FOR NEXT YEAR? IS
THERE A REASON TO BE OPTIMISTIC
ABOUT THAT WORK? IS THAT
POSSIBLE TO HAVE A PC ABSOLUTELY
. AND YOU'RE WELCOME BREAKFAST.
UM WHAT YOU'LL HEAR I THINK FROM
THE CPC IS THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED
ALL OF THE SPECIFIC REASONS WHY
WE NEED TO MOVE FASTER. WE USE
THE WORD ACCELERATE OUR EFFORTS
IN THE PROCUREMENT OF RENEWABLE
TECHNOLOGIES. THIS CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MODEL IS WE'RE
BETTING BIG. ON THAT THAT WILL
ALLOW US TO DO THAT, AND SO NOW
REFERRED TO THE CPC PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU, SENATOR FOR THE
QUESTION, AND I AM IN COMPLETE
AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THAT. WE
NEED TO DO MORE. WE NEED TO ACT
QUICKLY, AND WE NEED TO REALLY
HAVE ALL HANDS ON DECK. WE DID,
WE HAVE ADDED ABOUT 9000
MEGAWATTS OF NEW CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES IN THE PAST THREE
YEARS. THAT'S OVER. 100 PROJECTS
THERE WERE MOVING QUICKLY TRYING
TO FACILITATE THOSE THAT'S
THROUGH COVID AND THROUGH SUPPLY
CHAIN CHALLENGES, AND WE'RE NOT
STOPPING THERE, SO WE'RE GOING
FURTHER AND FASTER ON CLEAN
ENERGY PROCUREMENT. WE'RE STILL
SEEING CHALLENGES FOR
UNRELIABILITY, ESPECIALLY ON HOT
SUMMER DAYS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE
ARE WEST WIDE HEAT WAVES. AND
YOU SAW THAT A LITTLE BIT THIS
SUMMER. WE CERTAINLY SAW IT LAST
SUMMER, AND SO WE ARE SEEING THE
NEED TO USE EXISTING GAS
RESOURCES FOR RELIABILITY
PURPOSES CLEARLY THROUGH THOSE
HEATWAVES TO GET US THROUGH THE
SUMMERS, THE STATE IS IN ALL OF
THE ENERGY AGENCIES ARE
COOPERATING. WORKING REALLY
CLOSELY TOGETHER. THE PUC CCD WR
, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IS
INVOLVED AS WELL. TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO
CABIN THOSE DIRTIER RESOURCES
USING MOVING THEM INTO THE
STRATEGIC RESERVE, SO THEY'RE
NOT USED AS MUCH AND BRINGING
FORWARD AND RELYING ON AN
INCREASING OUR CLEAN RESOURCES.
SO YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT'S JUST A
WAY OF SAYING THAT THERE'S A LOT
OF ATTENTION BEING PLACED ON
BUILDING OUR CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCE SUPPLY. THIS IS A
FORWARD LOOKING SOLUTION. IT'S
FOR THOSE LONGER LEAD TIME
RESOURCES, THE ONES THAT WE ARE
NOT EASILY WERE NOT EASILY ABLE
TO PROCURE THROUGH. THE NORMAL
PROCESS IS SO THIS IS A WAY FOR
US TO BE VERY FORWARD. LOOKING
VERY, I THINK, CREATIVE AND BE
READY FOR THE CHALLENGE. THAT'S
AHEAD OF US GETTING FURTHER AND
FURTHER ON OUR CLEAN ENERGY
GOAL. THANK YOU. SENATOR NÚMERO.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S YOU KNOW,
IMPORTANT ISSUE OF GLADYS
SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF ACTUALLY
TWO QUESTIONS FIRST IS LIKELY TO
SPEAK IF YOU COULD TO THE
CONCERNS VOICED BY MR WELCH ON
BEHALF OF THE PUBLICLY OWNED
UTILITIES ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE
IMPACT OF THIS LEGISLATION ON
THEM. I'M GOING TO ASK THE CPUC
PRESIDENT. SHE WANTS TO SPEAK TO
THE QUESTIONS RAISED. THE
QUESTION IS, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE
PERSPECTIVE IMPACT ON THE US?
CAN BE SUSPENDED, IF ANY. SPEAK
TO THAT SENATOR AND MAYBE I'LL
LOOK TO THE AUTHOR AS WELL TO
CORRECT ME IF I IF I HAVE
ANYTHING WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE
THAT THE BILL HAS REQUIREMENTS
FOR THE POWS THAT ARE DIFFERENT
THAN THE I O. U. S. AND IT DOES
NOT GIVE THE PUC AN ADDITIONAL
OR IT DOESN'T GIVE THE PUC AND
OVERSIGHT ROLE OVER THE POU. SO
WE WILL BE HOLDING OUR
JURISDICTIONAL ENTITIES TO THE
PLANNING RESERVE MARGINS THAT WE
SET FOR THEM. AND THEN THE
POUSADA HAVE THEIR OWN UNDER
SEPARATE AUTHORITY, AND YOU
DON'T ENVISION THAT CHANGING IN
THE NEAR TERM. I DON'T ENVISION
THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THANK
YOU, SENATOR. SECOND QUESTION IS
MY UNDERSTAND IS BIOMASS AND
HYGIENE ARE EXCLUDED OR BETTER
PUT NOT INCLUDED IN THE BILL AND
THE PLAN. AND IF NOT, WHY NOT?
AND IS THERE A CHANCE THEY'D BE
OUT IN THE FUTURE? THEY'RE NOT
EXCLUDED TO CONTINUE TO BE
PROCURED THROUGH THE UTILITIES
DURING THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
OF THIS DISCUSSION, AND THIS
WENT THROUGH BUDGET SUB THREE
COMMITTEE TWO OR THREE TIMES
GIVEN THAT THE PROPOSAL WAS IN A
BUDGET TRAILER BILL FORM, THEN
IT WENT TO POLICY COMMITTEES. IT
WAS VERY CLEAR TO US THAT THE
SCOPE OF THE PROCUREMENT VIA DWR
NEEDED TO BE NARROW. AND AGAIN,
IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE
UTILITIES FROM CONTINUING TO
PROCURE BIOMASS AND OTHER
TECHNOLOGIES. BUT FOR PURPOSES
OF THE CENTRAL PROCUREMENT, IT
WAS DESIRE TO BE VERY, VERY
SPECIFIC. AND SO THAT WAS PART
OF THE DELIBERATION AND DEBATE
IN THE POLICY PROCESS AND THE
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES
AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
ADDITIONAL NOTHING PRECLUDES
THAT SOME FUTURE DATE, INCLUDING
IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE IT FROM
BEING PROCURED THROUGH THE
UTILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, SENATOR
DURAZO. YES I DO. WANT TO ADD A
LITTLE BIT MORE TO WHAT SENATOR
RUBIO MENTIONED ABOUT OTHER WAYS
THAT WE NEED TO REACH OUT AND
I'M 1000% CONFIDENT IN THE
AUTHOR, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE
DEDICATED YOURSELF TO
INTEGRATING ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ISSUES. BROADER
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ARE
COMMUNITIES WHO ALWAYS GET LEFT
BEHIND. ALWAYS GET THE WORST OF
THE WORST. THE WORST
CONTAMINATION THE WORST JOBS,
THE WORST PAID JOBS, SO I HAVE
FULL CONFIDENCE IN IN YOU. I AM
VERY PROUD THAT THERE'S UM
INCLUSION OF HIGH ROADS, UH, IN
IN THE HIGH ROAD JOBS IN THIS AS
WELL. I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE
THAT THE LONGSHORE WORKERS AND
THE BUILDING TRADES
SPECIFICALLY. WOULD BE INCLUDED
, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE
, OF COURSE MODELS THAT I KNOW
YOU'RE FULLY AWARE OF COMMUNITY
BENEFITS MODELS THAT INTEGRATE
ALL OF THOSE IN A GREAT ACCESS
TO QUALITY TRAINING ACCESS TO
THE JOBS EQUITY EQUITY IN THE
ACCESS OF THOSE JOBS, SO I AM
GLAD THIS IS IN YOUR HANDS, AT
LEAST TO GET IT THROUGH, YOU
KNOW AND GET IT SIGNED, BUT I
KNOW YOU WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
ON THIS. AND BUT IT IS VERY,
VERY CRITICAL PIECE THAT I'M
GLAD WE DON'T HAVE TO SCRATCH
OUR WAY UP AND GET IT INCLUDED
MOST OF THE TIME. THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENS. AND IN THIS CASE, I
KNOW YOU ARE FULLY AWARE OF IT,
SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE
GOVERNOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. KBL THANKS VERY MUCH,
MR. CHAIR LET ME JUST SAY THAT
THERE'S SOME REALLY, REALLY GOOD
THINGS IN THIS BILL. UM THAT I
WANT TO. I WANT TO CALL OUT
FIRST. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY
WHO'S WHO SHOWED UP HERE TODAY
DEATH TO TESTIFY IT. IT'S BEEN A
LONG DAY, AND WE REALLY
APPRECIATE IT. THE NEW CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM I THINK IS
REALLY IMPORTANT AND THERE'S NO
QUESTION THAT WE NEED GRID
RELIABILITY. I APPRECIATE THE
TESTIMONY OF THE PRESIDENT OF
THE CPUC IN REGARDS TO THAT GRID
RELIABILITY. WHAT WE KNOW IS
THAT UM, IS THAT WE HAVE AN
OVERDEPENDENCE ON ENERGY THAT'S
PRODUCED WHEN IT'S HOT, AND WHEN
IT'S WINDY AND MY BIGGEST
CONCERN WITH WHAT THE BILL
LEAVES OUT, IS IT IS NOT
TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL. IT
IDENTIFIES GEOTHERMAL, LARGE
HAIL, STORAGE AND OFFSHORE WIND
AS THE AS THE RPS ENERGY SOURCES
AND LEAVES OUT A LOT. UM AS AS
PART OF THAT, AND THE REASON I'M
CONCERNED IS THAT IN MY DISTRICT
IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY VERY
SIMILAR TO THE IMPERIAL VALLEY,
WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST EXTREME
HEAT. TEMPERATURES IN THE STATE
AND MY FEAR IS WHEN WE HIT A
CRUNCH AND WHERE WE DON'T HAVE
RELIABLE ENERGY THAT THAT'S
WHERE THE ELECTRICITY GETS
TURNED OFF BECAUSE OF THE
OVERUSE OF ELECTRICAL RESOURCES
BECAUSE OF AIR CONDITIONERS AND
EVERYTHING ELSE. ADDITIONALLY,
THESE PROJECTS. LEAVE OUT THE
VALLEY. LEAVE OUT THE CENTRAL
VALLEY. THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE
KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT CAN MAKE
A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT HIGH ROAD JOBS. I'M
THERE. 100. BUT WE HAVE DEFINED
WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY WE'RE GOING
TO BE USING. AND I WANT HIGH
ROAD JOBS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT
LIVE IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY AS
WELL. AND SO I BECOME CONCERNED
WHEN WE LEAVE OUT. THE ABILITY
TO TAKE WASTE. AND TRANSLATED
INTO ENERGY, BIOMASS HYDROGEN
CARBON CAPTURE TO TAKE CARE OF
SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WILL
IMPROVE AIR QUALITY WILL CREATE
HIGH ROAD JOBS FOR, UM, AREAS
THAT ARE NOT CLOSE TO THE OCEAN
THAT ARE NOT CLOSE TO THE PORTS
. SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS WITH
. THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE
LEFT OUT. UM THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CREATE A RELIABLE SOURCE OF
ENERGY. FOR THE TIMES WHEN WE
DON'T HAVE THE RELIABILITY ISSUE
AND WHERE WE CAN USE IT WHEN,
WHEN, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THAT
ENERGY AVAILABLE, SO I AM I'M
LOOKING OUT FOR I'M LOOKING OUT
FOR THE JOBS THAT COULD BE
PRODUCED. IF WE WERE IF WE HAD A
BROADER DEFINITION OF WHAT KIND
OF INVESTMENTS COULD BE MADE,
AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN
ADDRESS THAT. WELL, I THINK YOUR
QUESTION FRAMED DIFFERENTLY IS
VERY SIMILAR TO, UM, SENATOR
NEWMAN'S QUESTION, RIGHT?
SPECIFICALLY BIOMASS, RIGHT? AND
I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, LOOKING
AT THE POLICY. DELIBERATIONS IN
OUR HOUSE THAT THIS BILL WENT
THROUGH. THERE'S NO CONSENSUS ON
MOVING FORWARD WITH PROCURING
BIOMASS IN THIS CENTRALIZED
MANNER. UM, THAT'S ONE REASON
IT'S NOT THERE. UM IN TERMS OF
THE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT YOU
MENTIONED, I THINK THEY FOLLOW
INTO THE VERY SAME CATEGORY.
WE'VE FALLEN SHORT AND PASSING
POLICIES ON THE CARBON CAPTURED
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES BECAUSE OF
CAN THE POLICY DIFFERENCES THAT
REMAIN WHETHER IT BE IN THIS
HOUSE OR IN OURS? I'LL REITERATE
THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT AS IS
DELIBERATION ON THIS POLICY WAS
HAPPENING. THAT WOULD BE
EXTREMELY NARROW. UM AND THAT
WAS WHAT WAS AGREED TO THROUGH
THAT PROCESS. AS I MENTIONED WE
, WE INTENTIONALLY WHEN THE
GOVERNOR PUT FORWARD A BUDGET
TRAILER BILL, WE LISTED OFF BILL
FROM THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO TO
RUN IT THROUGH THE POLICY
PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD
INFORM THE GOVERNOR'S TEAM
THROUGH THAT POLICY DELIBERATION
PROCESS AND THIS IS WHERE WE'VE
LANDED THE CRITERIA FOR THE
PROCUREMENT AFFORD. DWR IS AS
FOLLOWS IT, IT HAS TO BE, UH,
HELP MEET OR CLEAN ENERGY
TARGETS. NOT SUFFICIENTLY UNDER
CONTRACT BY THE LOW SERVING
ENTITIES, FIVE YEAR DEVELOPMENT
TIME IN ADVANCE, NO COMBUSTION
OR FOSSIL FUEL USAGE LIMITATIONS
ON THE TYPE OF PUMP STORAGE
ELIGIBILITY WAS THE CRITERIA
THAT WAS AGREED TO AND IF YOU
HAVE A TECHNOLOGY THAT FALLS
WITHIN THAT PURVIEW THAT DWR CAN
ACTUALLY PROCURE THAT ENERGY.
BUT I'LL REITERATE IT DOESN'T
PRECLUDE THAT UTILITIES FROM
CONTINUING TO MOVE IN PROCURING
THOSE AREAS, BUT I UNDERSTAND
YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN. AND
YOU KNOW, AS THIS GETS OFF THE
GROUND, WE WILL LOOK TO DWR TO
SEE HOW ELSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
BRING. THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS
TO REGIONS OF THE STATE. THAT
ONE NEEDS THE POWER RELIABILITY
BUT ALSO CAN BRING THE CO
BENEFITS. THE MULTIPLE CO
BENEFITS THAT THE CENTRALIZED
PROCUREMENT PROCESSES BRINGING
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT MEET THAT
CRITERIA. I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENT. LET ME JUST SAY THAT
THAT THE CHALLENGE I HAVE IS
YOU'RE ASKING ME TO VOTE FOR
SOMETHING. AND I'M I'M TELLING
THE WORKERS. YOU KNOW WHAT I
WANT TO BE THERE, RIGHT? BUT BUT
CERTAIN EXTENT WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING IS THAT SO ALL RIGHT, YOU
KNOW THE WORKERS THAT ARE GOING
TO BE IN THE INTERIOR PART OF
THE STATE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE
TO PARTICIPATE IN BEING LIFTED
UP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT
ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE IN ONE
BASKET, AND I GUESS THE
CHALLENGES IS THAT IF WE CREATED
A DEFINITION AND THE DEFINITION
DIDN'T WORK FOR THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES. I WOULDN'T HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT WHEN YOU
SEPARATE OUT, IT'S OKAY. WELL,
WE DON'T LIKE THAT, RIGHT? AND
WE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THERE
IS SOME. WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE
GOOD SCIENCE AND WE'RE JUST NOT
GOING TO CONSIDER OTHER
ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE WE JUST
CAN'T GET THE VOTES FOR IT, THEN
THEN IT IT'S VERY EXCLUSIONARY.
AND SO I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
. YOU GO FOR WHAT YOU CAN GET
THE VOTES FOR, BUT I ALSO THINK
AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO BE
HONEST ABOUT. UM WE HAVE TRASH
THAT WE ARE DIGGING HOLES IN THE
GROUND AND WE'RE PUTTING IT IN
THE GROUND, AND IT'S EMITTING
METHANE, AND THAT IS BAD AND IT
CREATES POLLUTION, AND WE'RE NOT
DOING ANYTHING TO GET RID OF
TRASH. WE'VE GOT ALL THIS
AGRICULTURAL WASTE. WE'VE GOT
DEAD TREES THAT HAVE BURNED UP
AND WE NEED TO TAKE THEM DOWN
AND WE NEED TO GET RID OF THEM
IF WE CAN CREATE A MECHANISM
JUST LIKE THE COUNTRY OF DENMARK
THAT DOESN'T KNOW LAND FILLING
AND THAT USES A PROCESS WHERE
YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT BUT, UM,
WATER COMING OUT OF THE
SMOKESTACK. THAT'S RIGHT. IT
FITS THE DEFINITION. WHY
WOULDN'T WE GET RID OF OUR WASTE
AND NOT TRY TO SEND IT TO OTHER
COUNTRIES AND THEN BURY IT AND
HAVE IT? INCLUDING POLLUTING THE
EARTH, SO I THERE ARE OTHER
SOLUTIONS. JUST LET'S JUST USE A
DEFINITION THAT MAKES SENSE AND
YOU GET ME ON IT BECAUSE YOU
KNOW WHAT WILL WILL MAKE SURE
THAT THAT TECHNOLOGY HAS TO MEET
THAT THAT QUALIFICATION AND
WE'LL START GETTING RID OF SOME
OF THE STUFF THAT WE NEED TO GET
RID OF OURSELVES WITHIN OUR
WITHIN OUR STATE, SO I
APOLOGIZE. FOR BEING SO LONG
WINDED, BUT THIS IS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO ME. I HAVE PEOPLE
100% OF WHO TELL ME. I WANT A
GOOD JOB. YEAH AND YOU KNOW I'M
GOING TO HAVE TO TELL HIM. YEAH
GO, GO. GO OFF THE COAST. YOU
KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO
CREATE ALL THESE JOBS WERE NOT
GOING TO DO IT IN YOUR
COMMUNITY. AND SO, UM SO I
APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE WORKING ON. AND I
APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION YOU'VE
GIVEN TO THIS AREA, BUT I'M A
LITTLE FRUSTRATED IN CASE YOU
HAVEN'T I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS AND DIE, AND I RESPECT
YOUR ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE
PEOPLE THAT SENT YOU HERE TO THE
CAPITAL. UM WHAT WE HAVE IN
FRONT OF US IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE
TO LAND COLLECTIVELY AND FAR
BEYOND JUST GETTING VOTES. IT'S
ABOUT TRYING TO PUT SOME GOOD
POLICY FORWARD THAT WILL HELP US
ACCELERATE. YOU KNOW THE
PROCUREMENT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY
SO THAT THE LIST OF THINGS THAT
YOU KNOW, SENATOR STERN OUTLINED
THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON THAT ARE
THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT OUR GOALS
AND OBJECTIVES ARE WITHIN OUR
CLIMATE AGENDA AND RENEWABLE
AGENDA IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO
MOVE QUICKER AND THE CENTRALIZED
PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
BETTING BIG ON TO HELP US GET
THERE AND MEET THE RELIABILITY
ISSUES, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
THIS CONVERSATION AND HERE AND I
CERTAINLY UM I'M WILLING TO WORK
WITH YOU ON THE ISSUES THAT
YOU'VE JUST RAISED, MOVING
FORWARD. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
THAT. YOU THANK YOU, SENATOR
MAN. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. THANK
YOU. CHAIR BRADFORD, AND I WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU.
PRESIDENT REYNOLDS AND YOUR
STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE
DONE ON THIS. UM YEAH. I JUST
WANT TO STATE THE OBVIOUS HERE
THAT, UM WE'RE DOING THIS ALL IN
THE CONTEXT OF A CLIMATE
EMERGENCY THAT WE'RE SEEING THE
PROFOUND IMPACTS OF AND WHILE
THIS WAS, I BELIEVE AGAIN, THE
HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD, UM
ANOTHER WAY TO THINK OF THIS, AS
THIS WILL BE SEEN AS PROBABLY
THE COOLEST YEAR ON RECORD IN
100 YEARS FOR THE NEXT CENTURY
OR SO, SO WE ARE FACING AN
URGENT SITUATION. WE HAVE TO ACT
THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE BIG,
BOLD ACTION FOR US TO GET TO
ZERO MISSIONS BY 2045 OR
ANYWHERE AROUND THAT TIME FRAME.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
MASSIVE INCREASES IN OUR
RENEWABLE GENERATION.
TRANSMISSION STORAGE. AND SO ALL
EFFORTS ALONG THIS LINE I THINK
ARE APPRECIATED. AND SO I ALSO
WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO
AUTHOR, AND I ASKED TO MOVE THE
ABILITY APPROPRIATE TIME. UM BUT
I WOULD ALSO JUST ADD THAT I
THINK THAT, UM YOU KNOW, I DO
HAVE A QUESTION, NOT A QUESTION.
I'LL PHRASES IN THE FORM OF A
STATEMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE
RUNNING LATE HERE AND WE'VE BEEN
HERE ALL DAY. BUT YOU KNOW,
EXECUTIONS, OBVIOUSLY, AND THE
KEY HERE AND THERE WERE CONCERNS
RAISED IMMEDIATE REACTION I HAD
AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HAD
WAS, YOU KNOW IS DWR WELL
EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THIS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE A PRETTY BIG STEP UP
IN WHAT THEY'RE ASKED TO DO ON
PROCUREMENT. UM, YOU KNOW,
WONDERING IF THEY HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO DO THAT. THAT'S A
COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION. BUT
OBVIOUSLY WE'LL SEE IS THAT
PLAYS OUT AND WE, AS THE
LEGISLATURE CERTAINLY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO MODIFY THAT. BUT THAT
MAYBE CERTAINLY IS GOING TO BE
SOMETHING. WE WANT TO KEEP A
TAB. KEEP TABS ON GOING FORWARD,
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR EDMUND.
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR
ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE IN THIS
LATE TIME OF NIGHT PASSED. NOT
THAT LATE, REALLY FOR
INTERCESSION, BUT I JUST WANTED
TO KIND OF WEIGH IN ON THE
ISSUES THAT SENATOR CABALLERO
RAISED. AND I WANT TO ALSO SAY
THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T
JUST FOR THIS ISSUE ABOUT
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT. I ALSO
HAVE, UM, MY MOUSE IN MY AREA IS
VERY HOT IN THERE, AND I
WOULDN'T WANT THIS THEN TO
BECOME A LARGER STATE POLICY
BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH WITH
WASTE AND EGGS. AND THEN BORIS
AND EVERYTHING. UNTIL WE STOP.
CREATING WASTE IN OUR LIVES.
WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THAT
AND BIOMASS IS JUST A GOOD WAY
TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, SO, BUT I
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT
SAYING SPEAKING TO LARGER STATE
POLICIES, AND I THINK WE'RE ON
THE RECORD SAYING WE DON'T WANT
THIS. SOME OF US MAY WANT THIS
TO BE THE POLICY FOR FOREVER,
BUT THERE ARE OTHERS OF US WHO
UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A VERY
DIVERSE STATE WITH A LOT OF
DIVERSE NEEDS. THIS IS I.
TACKLING PROCUREMENT, BUT THAT
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE OTHER KINDS OF
ENERGY AS WE GO FORWARD. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. SOONERS CR TALK,
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO
REITERATE WITH ALL THE OTHER
FOLKS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
SOME OF IT. I AM TOTALLY IN
ALIGNMENT WITH THEIR CONCERNS,
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVEN'T
HEARD ADDRESS TONIGHT IS AT THE
END OF THE END OF THE DAY AT THE
END OF THE PROCESS. WHAT CAN I
RATEPAYERS WHEN THEY ASK US?
WHAT'S THIS GOING TO COST US?
YEAH EXPECT THEIR UTILITY BILLS
TO DOUBLE TRIPLE QUADRUPLE. WHAT
DO WE TELL THEM? ON THE
CONTRARY? CENTURY PROCUREMENT
PROCESS OUGHT TO ALLOW US TO
PURCHASE LARGE ECONOMIES OF
SCALE AND BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE
COST. THE COST OF POWER ISN'T SO
MUCH IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS
. IT'S OTHER I IDENTIFIED ISSUES
INFLATION SUPPLY CHAIN
DISRUPTIONS AND A COUPLE OF
OTHER THINGS THAT I CAN CONTINUE
TO GO ON AND ON AND HIGHLIGHT,
BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO ACTUALLY
BRING ABOUT THE RELIABILITY THAT
WE NEED. AND WITHOUT YOU, NO
DOUBT THE AFFORDABILITY IS
COUPLED WITH THAT ISSUE OF
RELIABILITY THAT WE NEED TO
CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON. I WASN'T
TALKING SO MUCH AS THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS
ESSENTIALLY BEING A BUFFER.
BETWEEN WHAT'S REALLY, REALLY
EXPENSIVE AND WE DON'T WANT TO
UNLOAD ON OUR RATEPAYERS BECAUSE
OTHERWISE THEY GO LIKE GERMANY,
AND THEY HAVE THIS THIS
BACKLASH. SO THERE IS I MEAN,
THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S A
COST TO THIS. AND AT THE END OF
THE DAY, RATEPAYERS ARE GOING TO
BE ABSORBING IT ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER. WHAT IS THIS GOING TO
COST OUR RATEPAYERS AT THE END
THE END AND TO GET OUR 1%
DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO DO FOR THE WORLD'S YOU KNOW
THE WORLD'S CLIMATE. WHAT IS
THAT GOING TO BE? I DON'T HAVE A
LEDGER WITH BOTTOM NINE NUMBER
THAT YOU MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO
RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I
THINK IN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF
THIS DISCUSSION, I WILL SAY
AGAIN THAT THE GOAL IS TO BRING
ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. AND THAT'S
THE FOCUS OF THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MODEL. THAT'S BEFORE
YOU. RIGHT? WELL SO WE DON'T
REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO TELL OUR
TAX OUR RATEPAYERS OTHER THAN
WE'RE GOING DOWN A PROCESS. WE
DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING
TO COST YOU. WHATEVER WE'RE
DOING SO FAR HAS ALREADY COST
YOU TWO OR THREE TIMES MORE THAN
YOU USED TO PAY. IS THIS GOING
TO HELP MAKE IT BETTER, OR THIS
IS GOING TO HELP MAKE IT WORSE.
WELL IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA,
WHICH WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER IN
TERMS OF WHERE RELIABILITY
ISSUES ARE CRITICAL, AND IT'S
115 DEGREES, WE'RE GONNA MAKE
SURE THAT THE LIGHTS STAY ON
THAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST THE
PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, RIGHT. IT'S
A IT'S A MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH
ISSUE. WE ALSO NOW ARE TALKING
ABOUT THIS MODEL BEING A
MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN
A MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE HUESO IF
THERE'S A QUESTION FROM
CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE
OR ANYONE WATCHING THIS HEARING
TODAY, THAT SHOULD BE THE
TAKEAWAY IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DO THIS AND MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE
WAY TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S ALSO
RELIABILITY IN PLACES LIKE WHERE
I REPRESENT. GET UP TO 125
DEGREES AND I SAID A WIND WILL
BLOW DOWN THE POLES DOWN THERE,
AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE POWER OR
WATER TO DRINK. AND SO AGAIN, IF
THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT
AFFORDABILITY AND RELIABILITY,
THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST RESPONSE
TO CONSTITUENTS, WHETHER IN YOUR
DISTRICT OR MINE, OR ANYONE
WATCHING THIS HEARING, RIGHT,
WELL, I ACTUALLY SERVE A LOT OF
THE SAME CONSTITUENTS OUT AND IN
THAT REGION WHERE IT IS
EXCEPTIONALLY HOT. AND ALWAYS
HAS BEEN IT'S JUST WITHOUT US
WORKING ON THESE OTHER THE
MULTITUDE OF WAYS WE CAN CREATE
NOT ONLY THE CLEAN ENERGY BUT
ENSURE USING WHATEVER ENERGY WE
CAN TO MAKE SURE THE RELIABILITY
IS THERE BECAUSE WHEN WE DON'T
HAVE THE RELIABILITY AND WE
START HAVING MORE DEMAND THAN
WHEN WE WERE, WE CAN SUPPLY WHAT
DOES THAT DO TO OUR RATES AND IT
GOES WAY UP AND WE FEEL IT
LESSONS LAST WINTER, WE FELT IT
PEOPLE. I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED
YOUR QUESTION. WITH THAT CLOSING
STATEMENT. THANK YOU. BY SHARED
DOLLY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I
DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I DO
HIGHLY RESPECT BOTH THE AUTHORS
BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT
I WANT TO MAKE. I'VE BEEN ON THE
ENERGY COMMITTEE FOR SOME TIME.
A LONG TIME. ACTUALLY MAYBE TOO
LONG. UM AND YOU KNOW THESE
AMENDMENTS CAME UP ON THE FLOOR.
I OBJECTED TO THOSE AMENDMENTS
BECAUSE HERE WE ARE. THE LAST
WEEK OF SESSION OR CLOSE TO THE
LAST WEEK OF SESSION, AND WE
HAVE LITERALLY I THINK IT WAS 23
PAGES OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE WERE
DUMPED INTO THIS BILL, BUT I
WANT TO GO TO JUST A COUPLE OF
PARTS OF THE BILL HERE THAT PAGE
23 LINE 38 RISKS THE RESOURCE
DOES NOT GENERATE ELECTRICITY
USING FOSSIL FUELS OR FUEL DRIVE
FROM FOSSIL FUELS. TO ALL OF YOU
WHO THINK THERE'S MAYBE A FUTURE
AND HYDROGEN OR CARBON CAPTURE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF
THIS AT ALL. ON THE NEXT PAGE
PAGE 24. THE RESOURCE DOES NOT
USE COMBUSTION OR GENERATION
ELECTRICITY. UNLESS THAT
COMBUSTION USES ANCILLARY AND
NECESSARY TO FACILITATE
GEOTHERMAL ELECTRICITY. ONLY SO
THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN USE
COMBUSTION IS FOR GEOTHERMAL. SO
AS SENATOR CABALLERO AND THE
AUTHOR TALKED ABOUT HIS VERY
NARROW TO THOSE THINGS. IT'S
WIND ENERGY. AND IT'S GEOTHERMAL
. SO I'VE BEEN DOGGING THE WIND
ENERGY THING FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU KNOW WE'RE MARCHING FORWARD
. TAKE CARE OF OUR OFF PEAK
POWER ON WIND ENERGY DRIVE FROM
THE OUR COASTLINE. WITH REAL
NOVE IRON MENTAL THAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GIVEN US
MONEY AND WERE MARCHING TOWARDS
IT. WE'RE GOING TO WE ALREADY
HAVE LANDING SPOTS IN HUMBLE AND
SAN DIEGO TO BUILD ALL THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I'M HAPPY TO
SEE THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE
THAT ARE GOING TO BUILD IT. I'M
HAPPY FOR YOU GO BUILD IT, BUT
I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN TURN
. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING
OUT FOR THE RATEPAYERS. EURO.
NOT WORKING, LOOKING OUT FOR THE
RATEPAYERS. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T
BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE NOT OPPOSED
TO THIS BECAUSE AT THE END OF
THE DAY THIS LEGISLATION,
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT MEANS THAT
EVERY SINGLE RATE PAIR IN
CALIFORNIA NO MATTER WHERE YOU
LIVE IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS,
AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY DWR TO
TAKE THAT. AND INCREASE YOUR
RATE. AFTER THIS BILL PASSES,
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND YEAH, IT DOES. IT SPREADS
THE COSTS A LITTLE BIT HERE GOES
ALONG THE WAY FOR VERY HIGH,
EXPENSIVE NONCOMPETITIVE.
ELECTRICITY. SO I WANT TO SET
THE RECORD STRAIGHT. I HAVE MUCH
RESPECT FOR ALL THESE
LEGISLATORS AND AUTHORS, BUT I
THINK THIS IS THE SENDING THE
WRONG MESSAGE. IF WE'RE REALLY
GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT, LET'S TALK ABOUT
WHAT IS GOING TO IMPACT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE ON OUR OCEAN.
WE'RE NOT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW
IT'S GOING TO WORK AND WE HAVE A
CARDINAL SHOP. THIS ISN'T
NORWAY, WHERE YOU CAN JUST
TETHER A WINDMILL OUT THERE. ON
THE CONTINENT SHOPS, 1,000,000
FT DOWN, OR 10,000 FT DOWN. SO I
HAVE A LOT OF THINGS I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT IN THIS BILL.
I'M VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT
EVERY SINGLE RATE PARENT,
CALIFORNIA. IS GOING TO PAY. NO
MATTER WHAT UTILITY YOU BELONG
TO. YOU'RE GOING TO PAY BECAUSE
DDR WR IS GOING TO HAVE THE FULL
AUTHORITY TO GO IN THERE AND
RAISE THE RATE TO PROCURE THESE
HIGH, HIGH, EXPENSIVE VERY
ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE TYPE
PROJECTS, SO I WANT TO SET THE
RECORD STRAIGHT FOR ME. THIS
EXCLUDES BIOMASS OR SOMETHING. I
AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FOR NOT
ONLY THE VALLEY FOLKS, BUT FOR
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WHERE THERE
IS FOREST. BECAUSE ITS
COMBUSTION CARBON CAPTURE. OUT
THE DOOR IS NOT GOING TO BE USED
IN THIS HYDROGEN FOR THOSE OF
YOU WHO CARE ABOUT HYDROGEN AS
AN ENERGY SOURCE. IT'S OUT, SO,
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ALL THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO WORK
AND THAT I THINK WERE MARGINAL
PATH. THE LAST TIME CALIFORNIA
WENT DOWN THIS PATH WAS GRAY
DAVIS WAS IN OFFICE AND THAT'S
WHY WE HAVE THE DWR PROCURE
POWER BECAUSE IT WAS MANIPULATED
. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A
LOT OF MANIPULATION TO THESE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE HAVEN'T
PROVEN YET. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS, I AM 100% OPPOSE THIS
BILL AND I'M STANDING UP FOR THE
EVERY DAY RATE PARENT,
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN GETTING
RAPED BY THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE
COME OUT OF THE CPUC EVERY DAY.
THEY'RE GETTING THE RATES HAVE
NEVER GO DOWN. THEY NEVER GO
DOWN. SHOW ME ONCE WHEN THEY
WENT DOWN, NEVER, AND THEY'RE
THEY'RE GOING TO GET MORE OF IT
IF THEY CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS
KIND OF POLICY TO GO FORWARD
WITHOUT VERY GOOD DATA. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBERS. NO
COMMENT. COMMENT WELL I'M SORRY.
ALL RIGHT? WELL. LET ME ADD MY
TWO CENTS TO THIS, AND I WANT TO
THANK BOTH AUTHORS AND ALL THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS WELL AND
THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THIS
PROPOSAL. THERE IS A LOT TO LIKE
HERE, BUT I HAVE TO BE HONEST,
IT'S A LOT TO NOT LIKE AS YOU'VE
HEARD EXPRESS BY MY COLLEAGUES.
THIS BILL AUTHORIZES THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES TO
SERVE HAS A CENTRAL PROCUREMENT
ENTITY. BèC IDENTIFIES THE
PROCUREMENT. NEED A REQUEST DWR
TO PROVIDE THE PROCUREMENT.
AUTHORIZES DWR TO ISSUE BONDS IF
NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE
PROCUREMENT OF ELIGIBLE
RESOURCES LIMITS TO ELIGIBILITY
RESOURCES TO THOSE NEW RESOURCES
THAT SUPPORT THE STATE'S CLEAN
ENERGY GOALS, WHICH ARE LAUDABLE
HAS A CONSTRUCTION AND
DEVELOPMENT LEAD TIME OF AT
LEAST FIVE YEARS. PUC DETERMINES
IS NOT UNDER CONTRACT OR
SUFFICIENT LEVELS BASED ON LOAD
SERVING ENTITY. PORTFOLIOS BUT
ALSO ESTABLISHES CAPACITY
PAYMENTS, UNLOAD SERVING
ENTITIES AND PUBLICLY OWNED
UTILITIES, WHO CREATE A
SHORTFALL THAT RESULTS IN USING
ELECTRICITY SUPPLY STRATEGICAL
LIABILITY RESERVED THROUGH 2027.
IT ALSO CLARIFIES THE BèC.
AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THE
INTEGRATED RESEARCH PLANNING
PROCUREMENT ON ALL LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES, AND IT INCLUDES OTHER
PROVISIONS, INCLUDING THOSE
RELATED TO WORKFORCE
REQUIREMENTS. I TOO, HAVE
CONCERNS AS SOMEONE WHO WAS
WORKING FOR UTILITY DURING THE
ENERGY CRISIS AND 4001 SEEN THIS
MOVIE BEFORE. AND IT DIDN'T END
WELL. AND SO I WANT TO EXPRESS
MY CONCERN AS WE WOULD CAUTION
AS IT RELATES TO THE AUTHORITY
PROVIDED TO DWR. I MEAN, IT'S.
YEAH, I'M EVERYBODY'S TALKING
ABOUT HOW FAST WE WANT TO GO.
AND IT'S A PROFIT PROVERB THAT
SAYS IF YOU WANT TO GO FAST, GO
BY YOURSELF IF YOU WANT TO GO
FAR GO TOGETHER. AND WE NEED TO
HAVE A DIVERSE POWER SUPPLY, AND
I THINK WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST
25 YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS
SPACE. 12 YEARS. WHAT ARE
UTILITY 13 IN THE LEGISLATURE
AND FIVE AS CHAIR OF THIS
COMMITTEE ON THE ASSEMBLY SIDE
AND NOW HERE OF PICKING WINNERS
AND LOSERS. AND AS MY COLLEAGUE
, UM, SENATOR CABALLERO STATED
BEEN TO DENMARK. THEY BURNED
TRASH. THEY HAD ONE OF THE
CLEANEST ENVIRONMENTS IN THE
WORLD. BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT HERE
IN CALIFORNIA. AS MY COLLEAGUE
HERE STATED ABOUT BIOMASS, THOSE
THINGS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
THEY'RE RELIABLE. THEY'RE
RENEWABLE AND THEY'RE CLEAN. BUT
NOT FOR ANOTHER DAY. AND WHAT
WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE STATE TO
PLAN AHEAD AND TO PREPARE FOR
THE FUTURE OF ELECTRIFICATION.
WE KNOW THAT THE STATE INJECTING
ITSELF INTO THE ENERGY MARKET
COULD HAVE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES, AS ONE REFERRED TO
EARLIER. MY HOPE IS THAT P U C
AND D J B R WILL BE JUDICIOUS
AND CAUTIOUS WHEN EXERCISING
AUTHORITY. THIS PROPOSAL GRANTS
THEM. I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE
SAFEGUARDS PUT IN PLACE FOR
ELECTRIC GREAT PARENTS BECAUSE
RAPE PAIR SHOULD BE AT THE
PARAMOUNT. THEY SHOULD BE AT THE
TOP. GREAT PIERS, RELIABILITY
AND SAFETY. THOSE WERE ALWAYS
THE PILLARS WHEN I WORKED IN
THIS SPACE AND SO FAR AS THE PUC
MUST REVIEW ANY PROCUREMENT BY
DWR TO ENSURE THAT IT'S JUST AND
REASONABLE AS STATED, WE SHOULD
BE PUTTING REPAIRS FIRST.
NONETHELESS THE NEED TO BE
CAREFUL WHEN INTERVENING IN THIS
MARKET IS PARAMOUNT. AS STATED
TODAY, THE PUC CAN DIRECT
ELECTRIC I'LL USE TO SERVE AS
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT ENTITIES.
AND THEY HAVE DONE SO AND THEY
WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. THROUGH
THIS POLICY. I REALIZED THERE
ARE STAKEHOLDERS WHO AREN'T
SUPPORTIVE OF THE THAT APPROACH
, BUT IT'S ONE THAT IS GENERALLY
SERVED THE STATE VERY WELL. BèC
SHOULD CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THAT
TOOL AS NECESSARY. EVEN IF THIS
NEW AUTHORITY EVEN AS THIS NEW
AUTHORITY WAS GRANTED, I SHOULD
SAY. ADDITIONALLY I AGREE WITH
SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS
COMMENTS ABOUT ENSURING
OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT A
DIVERSE WORKFORCE AND
DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE MORE
CONCERNED ABOUT A DIVERSE
PORTFOLIO VERSUS A DIVERSE
WORKFORCE AND BEING IN A SPACE
AM HERE TO TELL YOU AS I SHARE
WITH OUR PRESIDENT OF PUC LAST
WEEK ON OUR HEARING. THE PROMISE
OF DIVERSE JOBS OF BLACK AND
BROWN AND WOMEN. IT HAS NOT
HAPPENED IN THE LAST 25 YEARS,
AND SO THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE
PROMISES UNDER DIVERSE WORKFORCE
. THAT HASN'T BEEN IT HASN'T
DEVELOPED HERE IS ONE I'M GONNA
HOLD YOU, TOO, AND I'M NOT.
SPEAKING OF THE AUTHOR'S. I'M
TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION
AND ALL THE GOVERNMENTAL
ENTITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING
THIS. THIS WORKFORCE NEEDS TO
LOOK LIKE CALIFORNIA AND IT
DOESN'T AND SO THE PROMISE OF
THESE GREEN JOBS HAVE NOT
EVOLVED. THEY HAVEN'T IMPACTED
COMMUNITIES THAT WE CONSTANTLY
USING. THAT'S A POSTER CHILD ON
WHY WE DO THIS, SO IT CAN'T JUST
BE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT ALONE,
AND ADDITIONALLY I AGREE WITH
SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS I GOT
STATED THAT AND THE COMMUNITY
INVESTMENT AND LOW INCOME AND
RURAL COMMUNITIES AND
DISADVANTAGE AND TRIBAL
COMMUNITIES HAVE TO BE AT THE
FOREFRONT AS WELL. SO I REMAIN
OPEN WITH THIS POLICY AND I
SUPPORT THIS EFFORT, BUT I
SUPPORT IT WITH GREAT CAUTION
AND CONCERN THAT WE MOVE FORWARD
AND DO IT RIGHT. SO SENATOR TO
APOLOGIZE. APPARENTLY I SAID THE
BAD FOR RAPE AND I WAS JUST IN
IN MY ELEVATED FRUSTRATION, SO I
WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY
THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY.
HARMED BY THAT STATEMENT. THANK
YOU AND THANK YOU, SENATOR
EDMUND FOR SAYING THAT I DIDN'T
EVEN REALIZE I SAID, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
APOLOGY. UM WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR MEN AND AGAIN, I WILL
STATE THE MOTION AGAIN. IT'S A
DO PASS AS A MINUTE TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE GARCIA AND
THINK THERE'S VERY, VERY QUICKLY
APPRECIATE ALL THAT ROBUST
DEBATE. ROBUST DIALOGUE.
ULTIMATELY THE MAIN ISSUE HERE
THAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD IS
TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE LIGHTS
MAY GO OFF THAT WE HAVE BACKUP
POWER WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN A
WAY THAT IS NOT COMPETING WITH
ALL THE LOW SERVING ENTITIES. WE
DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO BE BUYING
TECHNOLOGY OR RAISING PRICES
UNNECESSARILY BY COMPETING WITH
ALL THE I O U. S AND THE M O. U.
S AND THE PCH. SO THAT'S WHY
IT'S VERY NARROW. THIS IS A
BEGINNING, NOT AN END. I KNOW
THAT MYSELF. SENATOR BRADFORD
WERE GONE IN A YEAR. BUT FOR
EVERYBODY WHO STAYING? THIS IS
WHY THE BUDGET PROCESS IS VERY
IMPORTANT. THIS IS WHY THE
OVERSIGHT PROCESS IS VERY
IMPORTANT. THIS IS THIS SHOULD
BE THE FIRST OF MANY HEARINGS ON
THIS ISSUE. THIS SHOULD NOT BE
THE LAST SO THIS SHOULD BE THE
BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION,
AND IT'S REALLY INHERENT ON US
TO BE WATCHING OVER HOW THIS
MONEY SPENT WHERE IT SPENT
WHAT'S APPROPRIATED. THAT'S
REALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A
LEGISLATURE AND AS A LEGISLATIVE
BODY, AND SO I THINK FOR US,
THIS IS THE IDEA TODAY TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
WE KEEP MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
CAN STAY COOL. WHEN IT'S VERY,
VERY HOT OUTSIDE. IT'S
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL AND AGAIN.
IT'S INHERENT ON US IN THIS
LEGISLATIVE BODY TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED
AND AS TECHNOLOGIES COME UP AS
IDEAS CHANGE WE AS A BODY HAD
THAT ABILITY TO GO CHANGE IT. SO
AGAIN. THIS IS WHAT'S BROUGHT
FORWARD TODAY. WE WANTED TO
START NARROW. MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE REALLY INVESTING IN CERTAIN
CERTAIN CLEAN ENERGIES FOR NOW,
BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO
BE FOREVER. SO WITH THAT RESPECT
FOR US RIVAL APPRECIATE ALL THE
ROBUST COMMENTS AND I REALLY
HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS.
DISCUSSION OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS, OKAY? SENATOR GARCIA JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE
ROBUST. DEBATE DELIBERATION.
CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED. WE'RE
HERE. YOU UM WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS MATTER
. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I VOTED.
APPRECIATE ALL THOSE WHO SIGNED
ON HIS COURT. OKAY SO WE HAVE A
MOTION DUKE HOUSES A MINUTE TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CONSULTANT. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. BRADFORD BRADFORD, I DALI
DALI. NO ASHBY, FBI, BECKER
CABALLERO. DODD. TOBY, YOU'RE.
DID YOU SAY I OWE CAVIAR? OI,
DODD? AYE. DURAZO D¯ÚI EGGMAN
EGGMAN I GONZALES GONZALES I
GROVE MCGUIRE MCGUIRE, I MEN,
MEN I, NEWMAN NEWMAN, I RUBIO
RUBIO. I SEE ARTO ARTO NÓ
SKINNER SKINNER. I STERN I WILK
WILK. NO. 14 TO 3. THAT MEASURE
HAS 14 VOTES FOR AFFIRMATIVE AND
THREE KNOWS SO 14 3 THE MEASURES
OUT I WANT TO THANK ALL THE
FOLKS WHO TESTIFIED HERE TODAY.
ALL THE FOLKS WHO WERE HERE IN
SUPPORT COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THIS
CONCLUDES OUR HEARING ON THIS
MANAGER THAT YOU COMMITTEE ON
ENERGY AND UTILITY STANDS
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.