RIGHT? ALRIGHT THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY WILL
COME TO ORDER GOOD MORNING OR I
SHOULD SAY AFTERNOON THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON AND VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 877226 81
63 AND ACCESS CODE IS 1618051.
WE'RE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS HERE IN ROOM 2200 IN
THE STREET BUILDING. I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE BE
PRESENT IN ROOM 2200 SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM AND BEGIN
OUR HEARING. WE HAVE ONE BILL ON
TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM. AH! S J. R
SEVEN. YEAH. BEFORE WE HEAR
PRESENTATIONS ON THE BILLS.
LET'S ESTABLISH A QUORUM
ASSISTANT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
HERE. HERE HERE HERE, BRADFORD
BRADFORD HERE, SKINNER. HEAR
HEAR WIENER WIENER HERE. OR
WRITE A QUORUM HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED. SINCE I AM THE ONLY
AUTHOR I WILL NOW PASS THE GAVEL
TO OUR VICE CHAIRED IN ORDER FOR
ME TO PRESENT. NOW CHAIR OF
HOBOKEN WILL TAKE OVER. THANK
YOU. TWO SECONDS. MHM.
OH,
GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME
SENATOR WAHABI AND SOMETHING
MEMBER JOHN SAWYER. YOU MAY
BEGIN PRESENTING SCR SEVEN.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. WE
ARE PRESENTING, UH, SENATE JOINT
RESOLUTION SEVEN RIGHT TO SAFETY
RESOLUTION. IN THE EARLY
NINETIES, CALIFORNIA BEGAN TO
INTRODUCE A NUMBER OF GUN LAWS
TO CURB THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
SURROUNDING GUN VIOLENCE. THOSE
LAWS RESULTED IN CALIFORNIA,
CUTTING ITS GUN DEATH IN HALF.
OR A GUN DEATH RATE IS THE 44TH
LOWEST IN THE NATION AND 39%
LOWER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
AS OF 2023. A RECENT REPORT FROM
ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB VONTAZE
OFFICE STATED THAT IF THE
FIREARM MORTALITY RATE IN THE
REST OF THE UNITED STATES HAD
MATCHED CALIFORNIA BETWEEN 2013
TO 2022, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN
NEARLY 140,000 FEWER FIREARM
RELATED DEATHS NATIONWIDE IN
THAT DECADE ALONE. CLEARLY
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN LEADING ON
HOW TO REDUCE GUN DEATHS. BUT
ALL OF OUR WORK AND FRANKLY, OUR
LIVES IS NOW AT RISK. THE 2022
SUPREME COURT DECISION IN THE
BROOM CASE NOT ONLY LIMITS OUR
ABILITY TO ENACT REASONABLE
RESTRICTIONS ON PUBLIC CARRY OF
FIREARMS, BUT THE DECISION ALSO
IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE
AND MAINTAIN EXISTING GUN LAWS.
FIREARMS ARE THE LEADING CAUSE
OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE
AGE OF 18 IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES IS SEEING AN
AVERAGE OF ONE MASS KILLING A
WEEK AND THEY HAVE BECOME SO
COMMONPLACE. THE MEDIA BARELY
COVERS THEM ANYMORE. I SUPPORT
THE SECOND AMENDMENT. AND AN
INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
. BUT IF THE SUPREME COURT IS
GOING TO DRAMATICALLY EXPAND THE
RIGHT TO BUY AND CARRY FIREARMS
, WE DESERVE BASIC SAFEGUARDS TO
PROTECT US AGAINST THE VIOLENCE
THEY CAN CAUSE. TO THAT END, I
BELIEVE IN THE BALANCE PROVIDED
BY THE FOUR COMMON SENSE
REGULATIONS IN THIS RESOLUTION.
ONE RAISING THE FEDERAL MINIMUM
AGE TO PURCHASE A FIREARM FROM
18 TO 21. Tð MANDATING UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS. THREE
INSTITUTING A REASONABLE WAITING
PERIOD. AND FOUR BARRING
CIVILIAN PURCHASE OF ASSAULT
WEAPONS ARE WEAPONS OF WAR. OUR
NATION'S FOUNDERS NEVER FORESAW.
RECENT POLLS SHOW THAT A
MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ACROSS THE
POLITICAL SPECTRUM, INCLUDING
GUN OWNERS SUPPORT THESE
REGULATIONS. THE RESOLUTION
CALLS FOR A LIMITED
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION TO
ENACT THESE REGULATIONS IN THE
UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND
HAS BEEN CAREFULLY DRAFTED TO BE
NULLIFIED. SHOULD THE SCOPE OF
THE CONVENTION GO BEYOND THE
SPECIFIED MEASURES PRIOR TO
INTRODUCING MY WITNESSES I WOULD
LIKE FOR THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC
SAFETY ON THE ASSEMBLY SIDE TO
SAY A FEW WORDS AS WELL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I
AM PROUD TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES
PRESENT. SJ R SEVEN, THE RIGHT
TO SAFETY AMENDMENT WITH MORE
THAN 27,000 PEOPLE, HAVING LOST
THEIR LIVES TO GUN VIOLENCE.
THIS YEAR ALONE. WE ARE ON TRACK
TO OUTPACE 2021 RECORD. OF OVER
48,000 LIVES LOST TO GUN DEATHS
ARE RECORD NO COUNTRY SHOULD
EVER BREAK AS CHARITY ASSEMBLY
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAVE
WORKED ON SOLID GUN REFORM
POLICIES THAT CALIFORNIANS NOT
ONLY SUPPORT BUT REFORMS THAT
HAVE A HAVE A PROVEN TRACK
RECORD OF SAVING LIVES. WE
CANNOT SIT IDLY BY WELL,
CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST JUDGES
ROLL BACK OUR WORK AND DIMINISH
THE ABILITY OF THIS BODY TO KEEP
OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. THE RIGHT TO
LIFE SAFETY AMENDMENT ACTIVATES
A REAL NATIONAL DISCUSSION ON
GUN VIOLENCE AND GIVES ALL
AMERICANS A VOICE IN DETERMINING
WHETHER WE CONTINUE DOWN THE
ROAD THAT SEES INNOCENT
AMERICANS SLAUGHTERED. BY
WEAPONS OF WAR OR WHETHER WE
CHOOSE SENSIBLE GUN SAFETY
MEASURES. UNFORTUNATELY, SEVERAL
DAYS AGO. THREE BLACK MEN. WAS
SHOT AND KILLED IN JACKSONVILLE,
FLORIDA. THE 21 YEAR OLD WHITE
GUNMAN. HAD POSTED RACIST
WRITINGS ONLINE HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
INCIDENT THAT RESULTED IN THE
911 CALL. AND IT HAD PREVIOUSLY
BEEN PLACE ON A 72 HOUR HOLD FOR
MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS. YET HE
WAS STILL ABLE TO OPEN PURCHASES
ASSAULT WEAPON IN BLAZING WITH A
SWASTIKA. COMPLETELY LEGAL WITH
THIS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
BEEN IN PLACE THIS SHOOTING MAY
NOT HAVE BEEN MAY HAVE BEEN
AVOIDED. A TRAGEDY HAS SPARKED
THE FEDERAL HATE CRIME
INVESTIGATION. S J. R SAFETY
WILL STRENGTHEN THE SECOND
AMENDMENT AND ENSURE PEOPLE ARE
SAFE IN EVERY COMMUNITY IN
AMERICA, FLORIDA THE STATE WHERE
THIS RACIALLY MOTIVATED MASSACRE
TOOK PLACE DOES NOT HAVE
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS AS
CALLED FOR IN THE AMENDMENT. HAD
THIS BEEN IN PLACE ENFORCEMENT
AUTHORITIES WOULD HAVE BEEN
AWARE OF THE SHOOTERS PRIOR AND
VOLUNTEERING MENTAL HEALTH HOLD.
FLORA ALSO DOES NOT HAVE A
PROHIBITION ON ASSAULT STYLE
WEAPONS, LIKE THE AR 15 USED TO
TAKE INNOCENT LIVES. THE
AMENDMENT WOULD CALL FOR A BAN
ON THOSE WEAPONS. FINALLY
FLORIDA ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE AS
YOUNG AS 18 TO PURCHASE FIREARMS
. THE AMENDMENT RECOGNIZES THE
DANGER THAT COMES WITH FIRE.
ARMS OWNERSHIP WOULD MOVE THIS
UP TO 21. YEARS OF AGE. THESE
THREE COMMON SENSE MEASURES PLUS
A WAITING PERIOD AFTER PURCHASE
REPLICATED ON A NATIONAL SCALE.
WOULD HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO
PREVENT THE SENSELESS TRAGEDY
THAT TOOK PLACE THIS BOWL, BUT
FAIR RESOLUTION CALLS ON OTHER
STATES TO JOIN US IN PROTECTING
SOME OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS
OF REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE WHEN WE
TOOK ALL OF THE PIVOTAL
MOVEMENTS WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL
THE PIVOTAL MOVEMENTS IN OUR
COUNTRY, WHETHER IT BE SO RIGHTS
FOR BLACK AMERICANS, WHETHER IT
BE FOR VOTING RIGHTS FOR WOMEN,
WOULD IT BE FOR A JUDGE?
MARRIAGE RIGHTS FOR LGBT Q PLUS
AND INTERRACIAL COUPLES? THERE
WERE PEOPLE WHO SAID EACH WOULD
NEVER HAPPEN. NOT ONLY DID WE
IGNITE EACH CONVERSATION, BUT WE
DID SO BY HAVING THE PEOPLE
DRIVE THE CONVERSATION IN A
CONSTRUCTIVE WAY, AND ULTIMATELY
WE ACHIEVED THIS HISTORIC FEATS
WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE
ACROSS ALL POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES
WHO OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THESE
MEASURES WE CAN AND WILL GET
THIS DONE. WE LEGISLATE BECAUSE
OF WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SERIOUS GUN
VIOLENCE PROBLEM IN AMERICA.
THAT IS WHY I'M PROUD TO JOIN MY
COLLEAGUE, SENATOR WAHAB AND
GOVERNOR NEWSOM IN ADVANCING THE
RIGHT TO SAFETY AMENDMENT. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I
RESPECTFULLY AFTER YOUR I VOTE
ON THE HISTORIC SJ R SEVEN.
THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO
INTRODUCE MY WITNESSES WITH ME
TODAY IS BETHANY WEB WHOSE
FAMILY WAS TRAGICALLY IMPACTED
BY THE 2011 SEAL BEACH, MASS
SHOOTING, WHICH OCCURRED IN AN
ORANGE COUNTY HAIR SALON AND
TOOK THE LIVES OF EIGHT PEOPLE.
BETHANY'S MOTHER IS A SURVIVOR
OF THE SHOOTING, AND HER SISTER
LAURA, WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED BY
THIS SENSELESS ACT. I'M ALSO
JOINED BY DR ADAM DOHERTY,
PRACTICING EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN
AT SUTTER MEDICAL CENTER IN
SACRAMENTO AND A TRUSTEE WITH
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS ON THE ARTICLE. FIVE
PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION IS
PROFESSOR TANG OF UC DAVIS. AND
FOR QUESTIONS ON THE SECOND
AMENDMENT. WE ALSO HAVE R E LIKE
FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE. I DO WANT TO THANK
MY WITNESSES, AND WHENEVER
READY. PERFECT THANK YOU,
SENATOR WAHAB. SO NOW WE'LL
CONTINUE WITH THE FIRST WITNESS.
HI MY NAME IS BETHANY WEB. THIS
IS MY SORRY SISTER, LAURA WEB.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF HER AT HER
WEDDING FOR MONTHS BEFORE SHE
WAS MURDERED. UM SHE WAS
MURDERED, LIKE ALONG WITH EIGHT
OTHER PEOPLE. FOR WHOM WERE MY
FRIENDS. I'D KNOWN THEM FOR 10
YEARS THAT SHE HAD BEEN WORKING
THERE. I WAS AT THAT SHOP
WEEKLY. ONE OF OUR FRIENDS,
VICTORIA, WHO DIED WITH HER. WE
KNEW FOR 20 YEARS AND ONE OF THE
KINDEST PEOPLE I KNOW. UM LARA
WAS NOT ONLY MY BEST FRIEND, THE
MAID OF HONOR AT MY WEDDING
GODMOTHER TO MY CHILDREN. BUT
SOMEBODY WHO HAD THE RIGHT TO
SAFETY UM. I AM MARRIED TO A
BIKER. UM HE GOES TO COOK'S
CORNER EVERY SUNDAY. LAST
WEDNESDAY. THERE WAS A MASS
SHOOTING THERE. WHEN YOU SEE A
BIKER BAR, IT'S ICONIC. THERE'S
THIS BEAUTIFUL RIDE THAT YOU GO
TO THROUGH THE CANYONS, BUT IT'S
FAMILY FRIENDLY. THEY HAVE
OUTDOOR, UM MUSIC AND FOOD. UM
THAT'S TWO PLACES THAT I
PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN TO HUNDREDS
OF TIMES THAT I FELT SAFER. I
HAVE TWO KIDS AT 25, YEAR OLD
AND A 19 YEAR OLD WHO HAVE NEVER
KNOWN TO GO TO SCHOOL WITHOUT
SHOOTER TRAILS MY 19 YEAR OLDS
AT SCHOOL. IN COLLEGE YESTERDAY
THERE WAS A SHOOTING AT A
COLLEGE. WHERE IS OUR RIGHT TO
SAFETY? I HAVE FAMILY IN ARIZONA
. I DRIVE BACK FROM ARIZONA AND
I HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT KIND OF
FRUIT I HAVE. BUT I DON'T HAVE
TO TELL HIM IF I HAVE GUNS FROM
THE GUN LAWS IN ARIZONA,
CALIFORNIA CAN DO ALL THE GUN
LAWS THAT THEY WANT TO IF WE
DON'T HAVE GUN LAWS IN THE OTHER
STATES. IT'S LIKE USING A SPONGE
TO CREATE WATER AND HAVING
SOMETHING UNDERNEATH IT. IT
DOESN'T WORK. I'M BEGGING YOU
FOR THE SAFETY OF US ALL TO GIVE
US THE RIGHT TO SAFETY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WEBB. I'LL
LET YOU DECIDE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
GO NEXT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DR ADAM
DOHERTY, EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN AT
A BUSY URBAN HOSPITAL HERE IN
DOWNTOWN SACRAMENTO, SPEAKING IN
FAVOR OF SGR SEVEN, WHILE I DO
NOT WORK AT A DESIGNATED TRAUMA
CENTER, MY HOSPITAL IS STILL
FREQUENTLY CONFRONTED WITH
SHOOTING VICTIMS THAT ARRIVED
SUDDENLY BROUGHT IN BY FRIENDS
OR BY STANDARDS THAT WE DO OUR
BEST TO STABILIZE WITH OUR
LIMITED RESOURCES. BEFORE
TRANSFERRING ACROSS TOWN.
SOMETIMES IT'S TOO LATE, AND I
CAN ONLY BEGIN TO DESCRIBE THE
COLLECTIVE TOLL. THE SAME STORY
TAKES ON FRONTLINE HEALTHCARE
WORKERS ACROSS OUR STATE AND
NATION IN AN ALREADY STRAINED
HEALTHCARE SYSTEM EVERY DAY. WE
HAVE SEEN EVERY AGE FROM
CHILDREN TO THE ELDERLY BECOME
VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE, WHETHER
STRAY BULLETS, ACCIDENTAL
DISCHARGE OR INTENTIONAL HARM.
JUST THIS WEEK WE LEARNED FROM A
STUDY PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL
OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF
PEDIATRICS THAT GUNS KILLED
NEARLY 5000 CHILDREN IN 2021, A
48% INCREASE SINCE 2018. AND FOR
THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW AFTER
THE FIRST YEAR EVER, GUNS WERE
THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN
CHILDREN SURPASSING CAR
ACCIDENTS, OVERDOSES AND CANCER.
WE KNOW THAT IT AFFECTS OUR
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND
UNDERSERVED ZIP CODES
DISPROPORTIONATELY. THE SAME
PEDIATRIC STUDY FOUND THAT BLACK
CHILDREN SAW THE GREATEST
INCREASE IN DEATH RATE AND
NEARLY HALF THE TOTAL DEATHS
WERE BLACK. EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES ARE NOW
UNDER FIRE. AS WE ARE THE
PRIMARY ACCESS POINT TO
HEALTHCARE FOR MANY HIGH RISK
INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE SEEN
NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THREATS
AND SHOOTINGS INSIDE OF OUR VERY
WALLS. MANY HOSPITALS CANNOT
AFFORD UNIFORMED OFFICERS ON
THEIR PREMISES AND VIOLENCE
AGAINST HEALTH CARE WORKERS HAS
BECOME FAR TOO COMMON. THIS
PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IS ONLY
COMPOUNDED BECAUSE OF THE
LIMITED ACCESS TO REHABILITATION
OF THE INCARCERATED AND
TREATMENT FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. WE AS
HEALERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEAR
FOR OUR LIVES ON A DAILY BASIS.
ALL THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WANTS
IS THE ENFORCEMENT OF CURRENT
LAW TO PREVENT THE PURCHASE OF
FIREARMS BY THOSE WHO ARE A
DANGER TO THEMSELVES AND
RESTRICT THE USE OF MASS KILLING
MACHINES THAT OUR FOREFATHERS
NEVER COULD HAVE CONCEIVED.
SHOULD BE PROTECTED BY THE
SECOND AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, UM, DOCTORED,
WARDING. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR
FROM OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF SGR SEVEN HERE IN ROOM 2200.
ALEXIS RODRIGUEZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS MOIRA TOP ON
BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO MAYOR TODD
GLORIA IN THE FALL, CITY COUNCIL
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS JONATHAN
MUNOZ ON BEHALF OF FIRST FIVE
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SCR 22?
I MEAN, SEVEN SGR SEVEN HERE
ROOM 2200. SEE NOW WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. DO WE HAVE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION?
OKAY? THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MORAL BRODZINSKY,
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMON CAUSE,
UNFORTUNATELY, REGRETTABLY HERE,
AN OPPOSITION NOT ON THE POLICY
OBJECTIVES THAT THIS RESOLUTION
SEEKS TO ACHIEVE ON THE METHOD
OF A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THERE
IS LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION
THAT TRIES TO LIMIT HOW THIS
PETITION CALLING FOR A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION CAN BE
COUNTED AS WELL AS LIMITING THE
ISSUES THAT THAT CONVENTION
COULD COVER. HOWEVER WE HAVE
SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT THERE
ARE NO PROVISIONS IN THE
CONSTITUTION THAT WOULD LIMIT A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION ONCE
CALLED TO A SINGLE SUBJECT. UM
THERE SIMPLY ARE NOT CLEAR LEGAL
GUARDRAILS IN PLACE. AND OUR
ONLY HISTORICAL PRECEDENT OF A
FEDERAL CONVENTION WAS ONE HELD
IN 17 87. WHEN THE CONSTITUTION
ITSELF WAS DRAFTED, AND THOSE
GATHERED THROUGHOUT THE RULES
THAT WERE INTENDED TO GOVERN
THEIR PURPOSE AND AUTHORITY OF
AMENDING THE ARTICLES OF
CONFEDERATION INSTEAD CRAFTING
AN ENTIRELY NEW DOCUMENT. THIS
HISTORICAL PRECEDENT POSES GREAT
CONCERN FOR ATTEMPTS TO LIMIT
THE SCOPE OF ANY CONVENTION IN
THE FUTURE AND FOR OUR BASIC
CONSTITUTIONAL, CIVIL RIGHTS AND
LIBERTIES, WHICH WE TAKE FOR
GRANTED. ADDITIONALLY THE
CONSTITUTION DOES NOT CONTAIN
PROVISIONS GOVERNING THE
FUNCTIONING OF THE CONVENTION.
IT'S UNKNOWN HOW DELICATES WOULD
BE PICKED WHAT RULES WOULD BE IN
PLACE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CASE OF
LEGAL DISPUTES, HOW THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND STATES WOULD BE
REPRESENTED? AND HOW TO LIMIT
THE INFLUENCE OF BIG MONEY TO
SPECIAL INTERESTS DURING A
CONVENTION. GIVEN ALL THESE
UNCERTAINTIES AND THE RISK OF
BASIC TENANTS OF OUR DEMOCRACY,
WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. STR
SEVENS CALL FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL
CONVENTION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR BRZEZINSKI. MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS SAM PAREDES,
REPRESENTING KNOWLEDGE,
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND
PISTOL ASSOCIATION. AND A WHOLE
LOT OF OTHER SUPPORTERS OF THE
SECOND AMENDMENT AS IT IS IN THE
CONSTITUTION RIGHT NOW. THE
TESTIMONY THAT YOU JUST HEARD. I
WANT TO RE EMPHASIZED THAT THERE
ARE NO PROVISIONS IN THE
CONSTITUTION THAT PREVENTS A SO
CALLED RUNAWAY CONVENTION WHERE
THEY CAN TAKE UP ANY SUBJECT
MATTER. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT
THE DELEGATES DID AT THE
CONVENTION TO MODIFY THE TO
AMEND THE ARTICLES OF
CONFEDERATION. THEY CAME UP WITH
A COMPLETELY SEPARATE
CONSTITUTION. AND THERE WAS
NOTHING THAT ANYBODY COULD DO.
CALIFORNIA SAYS THAT WE WILL
WITHDRAW OUR DELEGATES. WELL,
THEN YOU'D JUST BE NO VOTES.
THIS AT A TIME. WHEN FIRST OF
ALL I WANT. I APPRECIATE THAT
LEGISLATURES FINALLY TAKING OUR
SUGGESTION. WE HAVE TESTIFIED ON
ALL OF THESE GUN BILLS THAT HAVE
COME BEFORE YOU AND SAID THEY
ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IF YOU
DON'T LIKE IT CHANGE THE
CONSTITUTION. THANK YOU FOR
TRYING. THANK YOU FOR TAKING OUR
SUGGESTION, BECAUSE THAT IS THE
ONLY WAY THAT YOU WILL FIND. AH
ANY SORT OF RATIONALE OR
ACCEPTANCE OF THE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE PASSES YEAR AFTER
YEAR. SO, UM. THERE'S JUST
ABSOLUTELY SO MUCH IN THE
TESTIMONY THAT WAS GIVEN EARLIER
THEY TALKED ABOUT THE LIVES THAT
ARE TRAGICALLY LOST. THE FACT OF
THE MATTER IS FACT. LESS THAN 1%
OF ALL DEATHS IN AMERICA. ARE
DONE WITH SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLES
OF ANY KIND. MOST OF THE TIMES
IT'S HANDGUNS. THERE IS NO
LEGISLATION TO DEAL WITH
HANDGUNS. LET'S TALK ABOUT
ILLINOIS, ILLINOIS HAS ALL OF
THE PROVISIONS THAT THAT ARE
BEING PRESENTED IN THIS AGE.
THEY ARE THEY DO. HAS IT STOPPED
THE GUN CRIMES IN, UM, THE
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. NO,
IT IS THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION.
ALL OF THE LAWS WILL NOT CHANGE
THE HEARTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
WILLING TO COMMIT CRIMES. THEY
WILL ALWAYS ALWAYS BE ABLE TO
GET WHATEVER THEY NEED TO COMMIT
THEIR CRIMES THAT'S BEEN PROVEN
THROUGHOUT HISTORY. NOW YOU TALK
ABOUT THESE ASSAULT WEAPONS THAT
OUR FOUNDING FATHERS COULD NEVER
IMAGINE. WELL THE MUSKET THE
SQUIRREL GUN THAT THEY HAD. WAS
THE ASSAULT WEAPON OF THE DAY.
THEY WERE EXPECTED. ALL CITIZENS
WERE EXPECTED TO SHOW UP TO
MUSTER FOR THE MILITIA. WITH THE
SAME TYPE OF ARM THAT THE
STANDING ARMY HAD THOSE WERE
THEIR ASSAULT WEAPONS. AND THEY
HAD SEMIAUTOMATIC LARGE
CAPACITY, GUNS AND EXISTENCE AT
THAT TIME. PROVEN THEY WENT ON
ON THE SEARCH ACROSS AMERICA
WITH LEWIS AND CLARK, AND IT
IMPRESSED THE HECK OUT OF A LOT
OF NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES IN
HISTORY. THAT'S ALL ON THE
RECORD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
FACTS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3
MILLION TIMES ABOUT TWO MINUTES
AND I'M SORRY. IT WAS OUR
MISTAKE FOR NOT STATING THAT AT
THE VERY BEGINNING, BUT WE'RE
ALMOST AT THREE MINUTES. SO IF
YOU COULD JUST START TO WRAP IT
UP RIGHT NOW, 3 MILLION TIMES A
YEAR, LAWFUL CITIZENS USE GUNS
TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. AND IF WE
DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT MORE
DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO HAVE
WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE
THEM OUT OF THE CATEGORY OF
SURVIVORS AND PUT THEM INTO THE
CATEGORY OF VICTIMS FOR THESE
REASONS. THIS IS NEVER GOING TO
HAPPEN. IT'S NOT YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO GET TWO THIRDS OF THE
STATES RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE MORE
THAN HALF THE STATES ARE
CONSTITUTIONAL AREA AND DOING
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET RID
OF THEIR GUN LAWS. FOR THESE
REASONS, WE ARE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR PARETTI IS WILL NOW MOVE
FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION TO SGR NUMBER
SEVEN. THANK YOU. GREG TURNER ON
BEHALF OF SAFARI CLUB.
INTERNATIONAL AND CALIFORNIA
COALITION IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. DAN REED WITH NATIONAL
RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. KIMBERLY
HOGAN, WITH CONVENTION OF STATES
, CALIFORNIA AND OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. ELIZABETH ROSE MADE A
CITIZEN IN OPPOSITION. CATHERINE
SARAH ACHY SACRAMENTO FREEDOM
COALITION IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU SEE NO OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON
TO WITNESSES WILLING TO TESTIFY
. THE OTHER TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE. WE ARE LIMITING THE
TIME TO 10 MINUTES. SO PLEASE
STAY BRIEF. SO PLEASE, JUST TAKE
YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION SO OTHERS CAN HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION,
PLEASE. CHRISTMAS 10 AT THIS
TIME. WILL BE GOING TO LINE 56.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
TERROR MEMBERS CRYSTAL CALLING
ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR OF LOS
ANGELES, KAREN BASS AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'RE
GOING TO LINE 80. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS JACK MARSHALL
. I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION, AND
I DODGED THAT SHE GOES CHANGED
GUN VIOLENCE OR GUN ABUSE. NEXT
WEEK ON THE LINE. 81 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS MARK KLEIMAN.
PLASTIC HONEY. MOTHER
GRANDMOTHER, GREAT GRANDMOTHER
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED THIS
FILM. THANK YOU. NEXT. WE'RE
GOING TO LINE 16. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS
AND DORA RISK FOR THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN. VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA
ALWAYS SUPPORT VERY STRONG
ACTION TO ADDRESS THE PLAGUE OF
GUN VIOLENCE. YOU'VE GOT TO
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION, WHICH
COULD BE USED BY MALEVOLENT
FORCES TO UPEND OUR DEMOCRACY IN
A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT WE WOULD
LITERALLY REGRET. THANK YOU.
NEXT. WE'RE GOING TO LINE 77.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES HI. GOOD
AFTERNOON. SHARON. CHAIR MEMBERS
. MY NAME IS TRINA LODGE. I'M
CALLING FROM PLASTER COUNTY. I'M
A PROUD MOTHER OF THREE. A GUN
OWNER OF MYSELF AND I AM AND
STRONG OPPOSITION OF THIS. THIS
BILL S J. R AMENDMENT. IT'S
AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS AND YOU WILL NOT TAKE
THAT FROM US. THANK YOU. LARA
LINE. 94, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
THERE. MY NAME IS ANDREA
HEDSTROM AND I REPRESENT A
NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS VOTE
FARMERS FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT. AH
CITIZENS AGAINST THE COMMUNIST
TAKEOVER OF CALIFORNIA PARENTS
AGAINST MEDICAL FASCIST TYRANTS
, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY ON
RECORD THAT THE RIGHTS OF THE
PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. HIÆN
MA'AM. WEIRD JUST JR. THANK YOU.
OPPOSITION THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE. NEXT WE GO
TO THE LINE. 58, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS STEVE RADA AND
I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
THERE'S JR SEVEN. NEXT WE'RE
GONNA LINE 79. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
DARREN BEDWELL, A LONGTIME
RESIDENT OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY.
ADAM IN STRONG OPPOSITION DESK,
ER SEVEN. THANK YOU. NEXT WE GOT
A LINE 18, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
MY NAME IS CARLENE ELVIS. AND I
HAVE A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF
CALIFORNIA, A RESIDENT OF
SACRAMENTO COUNTY, A GRANDMOTHER
AND A GUN OWNER, AND I SHOULD BE
EMINENTLY OPPOSED THAT BEST JR
SEVEN. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT
CAROLINE 38, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS DAN SHOALS AND THE
CONCERNED CITIZEN. THE STRONGLY
OPPOSED THIS YESTERDAY ARE
SEVEN. PROPOSAL. DO NOT WANT TO
SEE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
NEXT WE GOT A LINE 95, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS JULIET. I'M
LOW RECORD. RASHA REPRESENTING
WOMEN FOR AMERICAN VALUES AND
ETHICS, AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
UM, JR. SEVEN. THANK YOU. NEXT A
LITTLE LINE 78, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
WHY MY NAME IS JOHN HUME AND I
AM STRONG OPPOSITION OF THEY ARE
HAVING THANK YOU. NEXT TO GO TO
LINE IN 83, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
MY NAME IS RORY HENLEY. I'M A
LIFELONG RESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA
AND A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE,
AND I AM BLOWN AWAY BY THIS, AND
I STRONGLY STRONGLY OPPOSED
LINE. 68, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS TAMMY VON BUCK AND FROM
LOS ANGELES COUNTY AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED SJ R SEVEN.
NEXT TO THE LINE. 36, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
ROY FROM BELMAR, CALIFORNIA, SAN
DIEGO COUNTY, PART OF THE NEVER
AGAIN TEAM. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY
SUPPORTED SEVEN AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COURAGE, GENTLEMEN.
METADATA LINE. 24, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MADAM CHAIR IS TYPICALLY
ON STRONG OPPOSITION. NEXT
CORALINE 84, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS ELISE HUNT MACKENZIE AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSED JR SEVEN.
MESSAGE ON THE LINE. 35, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I'M RICHARD HEILER.
FOLSOM CALIFORNIA GUN ROBBERY
VICTIM AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS. NEXT TO GO TO LINE 88.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS PAT HURT KHN,
LIFELONG RESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA
, CALLING IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO
LINE 25. PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS PAUL IT STUDEBAKER,
LIFELONG CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
PRESIDENT OF AMADOR COUNTY IN
STRONG OPPOSITION OF JR SEVEN.
THANK YOU GONNA LINE 93. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I AM ROSEANNE SHARP
FOUNDER OF NEVER AGAIN SEE A I'M
IN DEL MAR, CALIFORNIA AND WE
ARE IN STRONG ACCEPTANCE AND
HOPE THAT YOU WILL PASS SJ R
SEVEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
EFFORTS AND MAKING US MORE SAFE.
NEXT TO THE LINE. 59, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES THIS IS AARON FOREST
FROM ALAMEDA COUNTY. AND I'M
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS
MEASURE. NEXT TO THE LINE. 91,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI GREG FULLER
SALINAS, CALIFORNIA. THERE'S
PLENTY OF GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS
TOWN, BUT I ACTUALLY IN THE
OPPOSITION ASSURED OF SEVEN. I
THINK IT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO.
LET'S TRY TO GET SOME BETTER
LEGISLATION AS OPPOSED TO
CONVENTIONAL STATES. ALTHOUGH
CONVENTIONS AND STATE IS
SOMETHING I SUPPORT, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT TO GO TO LINE
76. PLEASE GO AHEAD. CAÑADA
GREENLAND FROM PLASTER. WILL
CALIFORNIA LIFELONG FIRMS OWNER
AND SUPPORTER OF OUR SECOND
AMENDMENT? THIS CONSTITUTIONAL
AND, UH. ATTENTION IS NOT THE
WAY TO DO THIS MUCH DONE. LAWS
FAIL ANYWAY. CRIMINALS DO NOT
OBEY THE LAW. THANK YOU. NEXT TO
THE OTHER LINE. 52, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS DALE
HUME. I'M A PARENT OF TWO. AND
I'M SORRY. OPPOSITION IS BUILT.
26, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS
MIRIAM TARG, SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF MAYOR FOR A HUNT FROM THE
CITY OF IRVINE. MAYOR HUNT
SUPPORTS THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
THIS IS A MATTER OF URGENCY AND
MARATHON HOPES. THAT COMMITTEE
WILL SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA LINE 74,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU,
ANDREA VASHON AND UKIAH,
MENDOCINO COUNTY STRONGLY
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO S J R SEVEN.
NEXT LITTLE LINES 64, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MARK RASMUSSEN, AMADOR
COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE VICTIM
OF GUN VIOLENCE AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS YEAR OR SO. NEXT
WE'RE GONNA LINE 89. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. OH MY NAME IS BOB
MCKENZIE. I'M A LIFELONG CITIZEN
OF CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSED AS J. R SEVEN. NEXT
WE'RE GONNA LINE 82. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS KATRINA
FULLY COUNTY SUPERVISOR FOR THE
COUNTY OF ORANGE REPRESENTING
DISTRICT FIVE WHERE ONE WIFE OR
GIRLFRIEND IS SHOT OR KILLED BY
HER DOMESTIC PARTNER EVERY SIX
WEEKS. I URGE STRONG SUPPORT OF
SJ R SEVEN R RIGHT TO SAFETY.
THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA LINE 51,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. PEOPLE HAVE.
YOU KNOW MY NAME IS RON LANDER,
FATHER, FATHER, GRANDFATHER'S
SON, SPOUSE, UH, ACTIVE IN THE
MILITARY. PLEASE OBJECT. I
OBJECT. IT S J R SEVEN. NEXT TO
THE OTHER LINE. 62, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS MARCO BENNETT
, REPRESENTING WOMEN AGAINST GUN
VIOLENCE. 30 YEAR OLD BEN
VIOLENCE PREVENTION NONPROFIT IN
CALIFORNIA. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BOLD ACTION AND ASK THAT
YOU VOTE YES, ON RIGHT TO SAFETY
AS J R SEVEN. THANK YOU. NEXT TO
A LOT OF LINE. 69 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS NANCY
HARDWICK. I'M A GUN SAFETY
ADVOCATE FROM CALIFORNIA, AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO
SAFETY RESOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION. NEXT WE GO
ONLINE. 97, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 97
YEAR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO. CAN
YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION THEY'RE
REPRESENTING AND WHETHER OR NOT
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF STR SEVEN. JUST NEXT CALLER.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT CALLER. 9 JULY
98. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THAT
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO
COLON, AND I AM CALLING ON
BEHALF OF ORANGE COUNTY BOARD
SUPERVISOR SARMENTO. I AM
PROVIDING WORDS OF SUPPORT IN
FAVOR OF THE RIGHT TO SAFETY
RESOLUTION FOR GUN SAFETY
PRINCIPLES CONTAINED IN THE
RIGHT TO SAFETY RESOLUTION ARE
WELCOMED REGULATIONS THAT CAN
HELP PROTECT PUBLIC AND A
DIFFERENT WAYS. NUMBER ONE
NATIONWIDE. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED
MULTIPLE MASS SHOOTINGS BY YOUNG
ADULTS. WHO ARE LEGALLY ABLE TO
ACQUIRE POSSESSION OF A AR 15
STYLE ASSAULT RIFLES AND INFLICT
PERFECT DAMAGE IN A SHORT AMOUNT
OF TIME HAVING TO WAIT IN
ADDITIONAL THREE YEARS TO
PURCHASE LONG GUNS WILL ALLOW
YOUNG ADULTS MORE TIME TO MATURE
, BECOME MORE MUCH JUST NAME,
POSITION AND ORGANIZATION THAT
YOU ARE REPRESENTING. THAT'S ALL
WE'RE TAKING AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME TO GO TO LINE. 96, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. YES THIS IS VIPER
VENOM FROM WAVE WOMEN FOR
AMERICAN VALUES AND ETHICS AND
ORANGE COUNTY, CALLING IN STRONG
SUPPORT, AND I'M DEEPLY GRATEFUL
FOR THE GOVERNOR'S LEADERSHIP ON
THIS BASIC PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND
JUST AS A NOTE, WE ARE AT THE 10
MINUTE MARK, BUT WE ONLY HAVE
ABOUT EIGHT. ADDITIONAL COLORS
ON CUE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD
AND HEAR THOSE REMAINDER, EIGHT
THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN Q AND STEP
WITH THAT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH
DISCUSSION OF THE VIRUS. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE'RE GONNA LINE 99.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES HI. MY NAME
IS STEPHANIE. SWELL A. I'VE BEEN
A GUN OVER OWNER FOR OVER 50
YEARS AND I SUPPOSE IF I HAVE A
BAD GUY COME IN HERE THAT I
SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROTECT MY
FAMILY AND MY PROPERTIES. SO
LET'S THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
JUST NAME POSITION ORGANIZATION
. THANK YOU FOR CALLING. WE
APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. NEXT.
WE'RE GONNA LINE 15. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS MARSHALL
PETERS. I'M FROM MARY MARION
COUNTY HAS ORGANIZED OPPOSED
THIS LAW. PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE
RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
NEXT. WE'LL ALIGN 103. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. WHAT LIONEL'S LIKE OPEN.
OH YEAH, THIS IS DAN MCKINNON
FROM SACRAMENTO COUNTY. AND I'M
, A LEGAL GUN OWNER WHO OPPOSES
THIS MEASURE. NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE 104, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH
THIS IS WILLIAM BARBER, A NATIVE
CALIFORNIAN LIVING IN SAN DIEGO,
CALIFORNIA STANDING IN
OPPOSITION FOR THIS NON STARTER
OF AN EFFORT. NEXT WE GO TO LINE
106. PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME
CONNECTED DINGLE. I LIVE IN
PLASTER COUNTY AND I SAW ME
OPPOSED TO THIS. I AM AND ARE A
MESS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL GO
TO LINE 107, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO THIS IS DANIEL ARKIN FROM
SAN JOSE. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE.
THANK YOU. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
97. PLEASE GO AHEAD. PETER STEIN
FROM BOOMING FOR AMERICAN VALUES
AND ETHICS AND ORANGE COUNTY. IN
STRONG OPPOSITION AND SICK OF
THE ARGUMENT. THE CRIMINALS
DON'T FOLLOW LAWS, WHICH WOULD
IMPLY THAT WE SHOULDN'T BOTHER
VERY MUCH. JUST NAME POSITION
ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN THAT'S
ALL THE COLUMNS. THAT'S IT. OKAY
ALRIGHTY. WE WANT TO THANK ALL
THE WITNESSES BOTH HERE IN ROOM
2200 AND THOSE ON THE LINE THAT
CALLED EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION FOR VOICING YOUR YOUR
STANCE WILL NOW BRING IT BACK TO
THE DIET SENATOR SKINNER. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. OUR VICE CHAIR,
ACTING CHAIR. UM AND I WANT TO
APPRECIATE OUR PRESENTERS OR
CHAIR FOR THE KEY AUTHOR OF THIS
MEASURE AND. HMM HMM. HMM. HMM.
I APPRECIATE THE. THE EXPRESSION
. THE CONCERN THE FEAR THAT A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION MIGHT
BE ABLE TO BE USED. FOR PURPOSES
OTHER THAN WHAT THIS RESOLUTION
INTENSE. BUT I FEEL THE
RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A
WAY TO DO EVERYTHING TO PREVENT
THAT AND TO STAY FOCUSED ON
EXACTLY WHAT ITS NAME IS, WHICH
IS TO ACHIEVE THROUGH IT, THE
ABILITY OF STATES TO PROVIDE GUN
SAFETY AS THEIR RESIDENTS WANT.
AND I THINK WE KNOW BOTH, BUT
FROM ANY DATA THAT ONE REVIEWS
FROM THE ANALYSIS, THE GOOD
ANALYSIS BY THE COMMITTEE STAFF
BY THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS
MADE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE,
CALIFORNIA'S GOOD GUN VIOLENCE
PREVENTION LAWS AND GUN SAFETY
LAWS HAVE SAVED LIVES, AND IT
HAS REDUCED GUN VIOLENCE IN
CALIFORNIA. IT'S NOT ELIMINATED
IT. THERE'S TOO MANY GUNS AT
THIS POINT IN TIME TO ELIMINATE,
BUT IT'S REDUCED. AND AS AGAIN
OUR AUTHOR AND PRESENTER
INDICATED THE MAJORITY OF THE
RESIDENTS OF OUR COUNTRY OF
AMERICANS OF ALL OF OUR BROTHERS
AND SISTERS ACROSS THIS NATION.
I WANT THE KIND OF COMMON SENSE
PROTECTIONS THAT ARE BUILT INTO
THIS RESOLUTION. AND
UNFORTUNATELY AND OF COURSE
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. IN
GENERAL STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO
ACT THIS WAY, BUT WHAT WE HAVE
SEEN ON THIS I FEEL IS SO
INTERESTING BECAUSE WHILE OUR
OPPOSITION SITES CONTINUALLY HOW
THE CONSTITUTION GIVES THEM THE
RIGHT BASICALLY TO DO ANYTHING
UNDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT. WHAT
ABOUT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT?
THEY THOSE OF US WHO SUPPORT THE
SECOND AMENDMENT, BUT WANT TO
ENSURE SAFETY AND WANT TO ENSURE
THAT STATES CAN ACT. TO ACHIEVE
SAFETY. OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
PROTECTIONS ARE AT RISK. AND SO
THIS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
HELPS ENSURE THAT WE HAVE OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS AND
THAT STATES CAN ACT. AND WHAT
WE'RE SEEING, UNFORTUNATELY, IS
EFFORTS. BY CONGRESS AND EFFORTS
BY THE CURRENT SUPREME COURT TO
LIMITED ABILITY TO DO SO. AND SO
THAT'S WHY I'M PLEASED THAT YOU
BROUGHT IT TO US AND PLEASE
GOVERNOR. CHAMPION THIS AND I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION AND
. THANK YOU, SENATOR SCARE. WE
DO HAVE A MOTION WHEN THE TIME
IS APPROPRIATE, AND SENATOR
WIENER. HMM THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MADAM VICE CHAIR. SO FIRST OF
ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE
GOVERNOR AND THE AUTHORS FOR
RAISING THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE
HAVE A TERRIFIC PROBLEM ON OUR
HANDS AND NATIONAL PUBLIC
HEALTH. UH DISASTER, UM,
RELATING. TO THE JUST TIDAL WAVE
OF GUNS THAT'S COME OVER OUR
COUNTRY, AND WE KNOW THAT THE
MORE GUNS YOU HAVE, THE MORE GUN
VIOLENCE ARE GOING TO HAVE
PERIOD END OF STORY AND ITS
ENORMOUS DATA FOR THAT, AND WE
HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS WAY
TOO EASY TO GET EVERY KIND OF
GUN OR NOT ENOUGH SAFETY
PROTECTIONS AND WE SEE THE
CARNAGE AS WE HEARD. TODAY IN
TERMS OF PERSONAL IMPACTS.
PROFESSIONAL OBSERVATIONS OF
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR
EMERGENCY ROOMS THROUGHOUT THIS
COUNTRY. WE KNOW THAT IMPACTS
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES VERY
DISPROPORTIONATELY, INCLUDING
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, LGBT Q.
PEOPLE WHO ARE AT HEIGHTENED
RISK OF ALL FORMS OF VIOLENCE.
IT'S HORRIFIC. I HAVE BEEN
CONSISTENT SUPPORTER OF THE
STRONGEST CONCEIVABLE GUN SAFETY
MEASURE EXCITEMENT ON THIS
COMMITTEE FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I
HAVE A VERY, VERY CONSISTENT
VOTING RECORD IN FAVOR OF GUN
SAFETY MEASURES. IN MY LAST RE
ELECTION, I RECEIVED A 0% RATING
FROM THE N R. A I WAS PROUD OF
THAT RATING. UM I ALSO WANT TO
JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO PRAISE THE
GOVERNOR GOVERNOR NEWSOM HAS NOT
JUST NOW, BUT CONSISTENTLY FOR
MANY YEARS HAS BEEN A STAUNCH
CHAMPION FOR GUN SAFETY AND HIS
MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH IS HE
HELPED LEAD A SIGNIFICANT BALLOT
MEASURE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO,
AND HE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY
SCIENCE NOT JUST ON THE
LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY FRONT,
BUT JUST AS A NATIONAL LEADER
AND USING HIS PLATFORM TO NEVER
LET PEOPLE FORGET THE HORRORS
THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS
COUNTRY EVERY DAY, AND HE'S VERY
, VERY, VERY VOCAL ABOUT THEM.
AND I SUPPORT THIS GOVERNOR AND
I PARTICULARLY APPLIED HIS
LEADERSHIP ON GUN SAFETY. I ALSO
EVERY SINGLE POLICY THAT IS
LISTED IN THIS PROPOSED
CONSTITUTIONAL MEANT I SUPPORT I
WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO BEYOND
WHAT'S LISTED HERE, SO I FULLY
SUPPORT THE POLICY HERE. I ALSO
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE ONLY
REASON WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE A
ROGUE RADICAL EXTREMIST SUPREME
COURT HAS BASICALLY ON ITS OWN
REWRITTEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT DOES NOT
SAY WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAYS
THAT IT SAYS IT'S OUTRAGEOUS
THAT THIS COURT HAS HAS
COMPLETELY BLOWING UP. THE
SECOND AMENDMENT TURNED IT INTO
A MEMBER THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED
AND NEVER WRITTEN INTO THE
CONSTITUTION AND THAT WE ARE NOW
SEEING THIS RADICAL LEGAL AGENDA
STRIKING DOWN. GUN SAFETY LAWS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DEBILITATING
THE ABILITY OF GOVERNMENT TO
PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO I
THESE ARE MY PERSPECTIVES ON
THIS. BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY
I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING
THIS MEASURE TODAY. UM, THIS IS
NOT JUST SHOULD WE AMEND THE
CONSTITUTION TO ME AN EASY ONE,
BECAUSE IT'S ALL SHOULD BE IN
THE CONSTITUTION. WHAT THIS
RESOLUTION CALLED, AND THIS IS
NOT A NONBINDING RESOLUTION
WHERE WE'RE GOING ON RECORD
SAYING WE SUPPORT THIS. THIS IS
SAYING CALIFORNIA IS IT WILL GO
ON RECORD AS PART OF THE LEGAL
PROCESS TO TRIGGER A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. AND THIS
WILL MAKE US ONE OF THE STATES
ON RECORD DOING THAT AND WHEN
YOU REACH A CERTAIN CERTAIN
THRESHOLD, CONSTITUTIONAL
CONVENTION IS TRIGGERED. THERE
IS NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION
THAT SAYS THAT ALL OF THE CALLS
FOR CONVENTION HAVE TO BE
IDENTICAL. COMMON CAUSE HAS
POINTED THIS OUT. AH AND THERE
IS NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION
THAT IN ANY WAY GUARANTEES THAT
WE CAN HAVE A CONSTITUTION
LIMITED TO ONE TOPIC. I DO
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS THAT
SAY IT'S AUTOMATICALLY REVOKED
IF THE CONVENTION GOES BEYOND
THAT, BUT WE HAVE NO WAY OF
KNOWING WRITING ON A BLANK SLATE
. WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING IF
THAT IS IN ANY WAY ENFORCEABLE.
ONCE WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA TO
THE LIST OF STATES CALLING FOR
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION, AND
SO I AM CONCERNED WHAT
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION COULD
DO BECAUSE WE KNOW THE SAME
EXTREMISTS THAT HAVE COMPLETELY
REWRITTEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REWRITE
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH ACCESS LGBTQ
RIGHTS. THEY WANT TO GET RID OF
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND
STATE. THEY WANT TO UNDERMINE
VOTING RIGHTS. AND SO FOR THESE
REASONS, I WON'T BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THIS TODAY. I HAVE
ENORMOUS RESPECT FOR THE AUTHORS
AND FOR THE GOVERNOR OUT OF
RESPECT FOR THE GOVERNOR, AND
FOR THE AUTHORS, I WILL LAY OFF
INSTEAD OF VOTING. NO BECAUSE I,
YOU KNOW I DO STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS POLICY AND APPRECIATE THAT
THE GOVERNOR AND THE AUTHORS ARE
ELEVATING THESE ISSUES. SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR OR
SENATOR WINNER. IT'S BEEN A
WHILE HERE, UM, SENATOR
BRADFORD. I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHORS FOR BRINGING THIS
MEASURE FORWARD, AND I TOO HAVE
CONCERNS, BUT I THINK MY
CONCERNS ARE FAR OUTWEIGHED BY
THE BENEFIT OF WHAT THIS
RESOLUTION WOULD DO, AND IT'S A
STRAIGHTFORWARD MEASURE. IT
SIMPLY CALLS FOR RAGING THE AGE
FROM 18 TO 21. I MEAN, YOU HAVE
TO BE 21 TO BUY A BEER. BUT YOU
CAN GO BUY A GUN IN YOUR 18. I
MEAN, IT'S SOME 18 YEAR OLDS
SHOULDN'T EVEN BE DRIVING CARS,
BUT WE ALLOW THEM TO BUY GUNS.
AND IT MANDATES A UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECK AGAIN IF WE DID
THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECKS AND
ALL OUR STATES, MANY OF THE
FOLKS WHO HAVE PURCHASED GUNS
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST AS WE
SAW THE MASS SHOOTING THAT
HAPPENED JUST LAST WEEK. THE
INDIVIDUAL THERE IS NO
BACKGROUND CHECK AND THIS GUY
WAS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL
ILLNESS. IT INSTITUTES A
REASONABLE WAITING PERIOD FOR
DELIVERY OF A FIREARM BECAUSE
AGAIN, THIS INDIVIDUAL WALKED IN
THE STORE BOUGHT THE GUN THAT
VERY DAY AND KILLED. THREE
PEOPLE THE VERY NEXT DAY AND BAR
BARS FOLKS FROM OWNING ASSAULT
WEAPON AGAIN A WEAPON OF WAR
FROM MASS DESTRUCTION. I DON'T
BELIEVE AGAIN. THE FOUNDING
FATHERS EVER MEANT FOR SOMEONE
TO HAVE A GUN THAT SHOOTS
HUNDREDS OF ROUNDS IN A MINUTE,
SO I DO HAVE THE CONCERNS THAT
SENATOR WIENER EXPRESSED ABOUT
THE BROADENING OF REACHED THAT I
CAN, UH, CONVENTION MIGHT HAVE,
BUT I'M TRUSTING THAT WE CAN
NARROW THIS AND BE VERY SPECIFIC
AND INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO HERE AND AGAIN.
UNITED STATES WE'VE HAD OVER 465
MASS SHOOTINGS ARE READY. I
MEAN, MORE FOLKS NEED TO LOSE
THEIR LIVES. GUNS MAKES
ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE NOW
WHATSOEVER. AND AGAIN. BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITIES ARE IMPACTED
THE MOST, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE
ONES THAT PERPETRATE THE MASS
SHOOTINGS. THE MAJORITY OF MASS
SHOOTINGS ARE MIDDLE AGED WHITE
MEN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HOLD ONTO
THEIR GUNS. YOU KNOW, EVEN
THOUGH THEY'RE NOT THE ONES
LOSING THEIR LIVES NOW, IF THOSE
NUMBERS ARE REVERSED, I ASSURE
YOU THEY WOULD BE MAKING EVERY
EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THESE
CONSTANT THAN FALL IN THE HANDS
OF ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
COMMITTING THESE CRIMES. SO ON
THAT NOTE, I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS MEASURE TODAY. THANK YOU.
THEMSELVES. THANK YOU, SENATOR
BRADFORD. UM SENATOR ROB, I
BELIEVE YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THE, UH, POINTS MADE BY
SENATOR WEINER. IS THAT CORRECT
? YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO WE
CAN I DO? I DO. WOULD YOU LIKE
US TO HAVE ALL OF THEM? BUT
LET'S LET'S SEE THAT ALL RIGHT?
SO, UM. I THINK WE'VE HAD REALLY
GOOD DIALOGUE TODAY. I THINK
MANY OTHER POINTS THAT WERE MADE
ARE ACTUALLY SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AS WELL,
INCLUDING SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT SENATOR WIENER MENTIONED
TODAY WITH REGARDS TO THE
CONVENTION BEING HELD IN THE, UM
WHAT SOME MAY HAVE CALLED
OPENING PANDORA'S BOX WITH
REGARDS TO THE TOPICS THAT COULD
BE ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME, SO
LET ME JUST BEGIN BY STATING
THAT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
, UM, CURRENTLY NOTHING THAT, UM
WELL, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE ONE OF
THE FOUR POINTS ARE BEING MADE
IN THIS RESOLUTION. CORRECT ME
IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE OUT
OF THE FOUR THAT ARE CURRENTLY
BEING, UM BEING PROPOSED FOR THE
RESOLUTION. ONLY ONE ONLY OR
SHOULD I SAY THREE OF THEM OF
THE FOUR ARE CURRENTLY
UNAFFECTED BY ANYTHING THAT THE
SUPREME COURT HAS CURRENTLY, UM
, WAIT ON IS THAT CORRECT? CAN
SEE ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE OFFICER CONFRONTS
PREVENTION AND I'M SORRY,
FREILICH. THE FOUR POLICIES
CONTAINED IN HERE ARE EXISTING
CALIFORNIA LAW. THEY HAVE BEEN
REPEATEDLY REAFFIRMED BY THE
COURTS, AND THEY WOULD INITIATE
A PROCESS TO ENACT THOSE AT THE
NATIONAL LEVEL. OKAY, SO
BRINGING IN CALIFORNIA NOW IS
THERE ANYTHING THAT PROHIBITS
ANY OF THE STATES IN THE COUNTRY
TO BE ABLE TO ENACT THESE LAWS
WITHIN THEIR WITHIN THEIR
STATES? THERE THE VAST MAJORITY
OF CASES HAVE OF COURTS HAVE
REAFFIRMED THESE. THERE ARE
OUTLIER COURTS AROUND THE
COUNTRY THAT, IN SOME CASES MAY
HAVE AT LEAST TEMPORARILY
OBSTRUCTED IMPLEMENTATION OF
THOSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE
ANSWER IS NO. THE COURTS. THE
VAST MAJORITY OF COURTS HAVE
REAFFIRMED THAT THESE ARE
ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH THE
RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN
THE CONSTITUTION. AND IN THIS MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THIS RESOLUTION
AS WELL AS THIS. THIS PATHWAY
WOULD ENACT LEGISLATION.
NATIONALLY TO THESE LIFESAVING
GUN POLLOCK VIOLENCE PREVENTION
POLICIES IN CALIFORNIA
EVERYWHERE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS
PROTECTION HERE, AS WELL AS
ELSEWHERE AND REAFFIRM REAFFIRM
THEIR VALIDITY UNDER THE
CONSTITUTION, BUT WAS LET ME LET
ME RESTATE MY QUESTION JUST SO I
CAN HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER. SO
CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS WITH
THESE PARTICULAR PIECES OF
LEGISLATION. UM THERE'S NOTHING
CONSTITUTIONALLY. WELL, MAYBE
PERHAPS, MAYBE ONE. I'M GOING TO
ASSUME, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT
CURRENTLY PROHIBITS ANY OTHER
STATE FROM ACTUALLY ENACTING
THESE LAWS WITHIN THEIR WITHIN
THEIR STATES. I'LL SAY THAT
GENERALLY RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT IS CORRECT. SO IN OTHER
WORDS, IF THIS RESOLUTION WE'RE
NOT TO PASS OTHER STATES ACROSS
THE NATION COULD IF THEY WANTED
TO ENACT THESE LAWS, THERE'S
NOTHING IN THE SUPREME COURT
THAT WOULD ACTUALLY AVOID THEM
OR PROHIBIT THEM FROM ENACTING
THESE PARTICULAR LAWS HAVE TO
GIVE YOU A BIT OF A NUANCED
ANSWER. THE SHORTEST VERSION OF
THIS IS YES. THE VAST MAJORITY,
OF COURSE, IF YOU ASK THEM HAVE
CONSISTENTLY REPEATEDLY EVEN
AFTER BREWING REAFFIRMED THAT
THIS IS THESE ARE EFFECTIVE,
REASONABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH
OUR HISTORICAL TRADITIONS. AND I
WOULD NOTE IN A FEW MONTHS,
SUPREME COURT WILL BE HEARING
ANOTHER SECOND AMENDMENT CASE,
WHERE THEY WILL BE ASKED WHETHER
TO OVERTURN A APPELLATE COURT
RULING THAT FOUND THAT SOMEONE
SUBJECT TO AN ACT OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER.
BECAUSE THE COURT FOUND THAT
THEY WERE COMMITTED ACTS OF
DOMESTIC ABUSE, GUN VIOLENCE
AGAINST THE SPECIFIC PROTECTED
PERSON. SHE WENT INTO COURT GOT
A RESTRAINING ORDER, THE SUPREME
COURT WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER
WHETHER TO OVERTURN THAT EXTREME
OUTLIER DECISION. AND FIND THAT
WHETHER THAT PERSON HAD THE
ABUSER HAD A CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHT TO POSSESS FIREARMS. THE
TWO THINGS ARE TRUE. AT THE SAME
TIME, THE VAST MAJORITY OF
COURTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY
REPEATEDLY AFFIRMED THAT STATES
HAVE THE POWER TO ENACT THESE
LAWS. AND THERE ARE OUTLIER
DECISIONS OUT THERE THAT AT
TIMES HAVE OBSTRUCTED THAT
PROGRESS OVERALL. YES, ANY
SACRED ENACT ANY OF THESE LAWS?
WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF
PURSUING AND SEEING IF THERE IS
AN OUTLIER THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE, BUT
THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED, BUT
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THESE LAWS
COULD POTENTIALLY BE ENACTED. SO
UM, MOVING ON FROM THERE? I DO
WANT TO CONTINUE WITH ONE. DO
YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE
STATEMENT? REALLY QUICK, JUST AS
AN OBSERVATION, SO MY PARENTS,
AS YOU KNOW, ARE FROM MEXICO. I
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE WITH
MY GRANDPARENTS. AND UM, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO
NOTE IS THAT I SHARE THE
CONCERNS THAT MANY INDIVIDUALS
FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BAN GUNS AND
THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
SEAT. A SAFER, UM, SOCIETY AND
CULTURE. LET ME TELL YOU THAT IN
MEXICO GUNS FOR THE AVERAGE
CITIZEN IS OUTLAWED. THEY ARE
NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A GUN. AND I
REMEMBER AND I WANT TO SHARE
THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE I REMEMBER
MY GRANDFATHER. HE HAS NOW
PASSED AWAY. AND SO I DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT HIM. BUT MY
FATHER, MY GRANDFATHER ACTUALLY
HID A GUN IN HIS CLOSET. AND I
REMEMBER SEEING IT AS A KID, BUT
HE HAD TO HIT HIM BECAUSE HE
KNEW HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE
IT. AND I WILL ALSO WANT TO JUST
SAY, FOR THE RECORD THAT IF WE
LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN, UM
IN MEXICO RIGHT NOW AND WHO HAS
CONTROL OVER MANY OF THESE SMALL
TOWNS. IT IS, IT'S HEARTENING TO
SEE THE AMOUNT OF YOU THINK WE
HAVE PROBLEMS HERE. IT IS
HORRIBLE. IN MEXICO. FOR MANY,
MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE
OVERWHELMINGLY, UM, SUFFERING.
FROM CARNAGE AS IT WAS CALLED
EARLIER. FROM CARTELS. THEY'RE
LIVING IN UTTER FEAR BECAUSE LAW
ABIDING PEOPLE CANNOT PROTECT
THEMSELVES. AND IT IS PEOPLE WHO
ARE ACTUALLY, UM LEADING THESE
CARTELS AND THEIR PERSONNEL,
WHICH ARE OVERWHELMINGLY TAKING
OVER. MANY MANY COMMUNITIES IN
MEXICO. AND PEOPLE THEY AVERAGE
PERSON CANNOT PROTECT THEMSELVES
, AND I THINK MANY OF US ARE
FOLLOWING MANY OF THE STORIES OF
PEOPLE BEING KILLED. BECAUSE THE
WRONG PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER
HOW MANY LAWS WE HAVE ON THE
RECORD. WHEN WE HAVE EVIL PEOPLE
WHEN WE HAVE BAD PEOPLE DOING
BAD THINGS, THEY COULD CARE LESS
ABOUT THE LAWS THAT WE PASS, AND
IT IS ONLY LAW ABIDING PEOPLE
LIKE YOU AND ME. WHO WILL FOLLOW
THE LAW. WILL BECOME VULNERABLE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT
BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE MANY,
MANY PEOPLE THAT FEEL THAT IF WE
BANNED GUNS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
A SAFER COMMUNITY IS SAFER STATE
IN A SAFER COUNTRY. AND I'M JUST
GONNA POINT TO MANY COUNTRIES IN
LATIN AMERICA, INCLUDING MEXICO.
SENATOR HAVING SAID THAT, LET ME
JUST MOVE FORWARD ON MAKING MY
OTHER POINTS. UM SO HAVING SAID
THAT THERE IS ANOTHER THING THAT
I WANTED TO, UM TO STATE HERE
FOR THE RECORD. UM. I'M KIND OF
CURIOUS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO
WOULD BE THE RIGHT PERSON TO
ANSWER THE FOLLOWING. BUT UM, I
KNOW THAT IN THE RESOLUTION, YOU
STATE THAT, UM YOU HAVE YOU HAVE
LIMITED THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE
RESOLUTION SHOULD DO. MY
QUESTION IS, WHAT POWER DO YOU
HAVE? OR DOES THE STATE HAVE IN
CALIFORNIA, THEY WILL HAVE A
BINDING AUTHORITY ON WHAT COULD
OCCUR. SHOULD HAVE CONVENTION
ACTUALLY BE CALLED BECAUSE I
KNOW THAT THAT IS PART OF WHAT
WAS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN IN. BUT
WHAT AUTHORITY IS THERE TO BE
ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THAT WOULD
HAPPEN? YEAH SO MY NAME IS AARON
TANG, A PROFESSOR OF
CONSTITUTIONAL LAW AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DAVIS
SCHOOL OF LAW. IT'S A FAIR
QUESTION, SENATOR WIENER. HIS
REMARKS INDICATED AS WELL. THIS
IS, UM, OPEN TERRITORY. WE DO
NOT HAVE PRECEDENT THAT WE CAN
RELY I ON THERE IS NO
CONSTITUTIONAL GROUND RULES
DELINEATING HOW AN ARTICLE FIVE
CONVENTION RUN SO IT WOULD CASH
OUT THROUGH LITIGATION. WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN IS IF 34 STATES
VOTED FOR US JR SEVEN STYLE
AMENDMENTS. THERE'LL BE A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION. YOU
COULD IMAGINE A RUNAWAY
CONVENTION IN A SITUATION WHERE
MAYBE A RIGHT WING GROUP WOULD
COME AND PROPOSE A AMENDMENT TO
EMASCULATE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND WHOEVER IS
RUNNING THE CONSTITUTIONAL
CONVENTION. WE DON'T KNOW THE
CHAIR WOULD EITHER ALLOW OR
DISALLOW IT. AND THEN THERE'D BE
A LAWSUIT. RIGHT SO SUPPOSE THE
CHAIR, AGREES AND ALLOWS THE
RUNAWAY CONVENTION AND NOW YOU
CAN HAVE ANY AMENDMENT ON
ANYTHING ABORTION RIGHTS ON THE
BALANCED BUDGET, CALIFORNIA
COULD ENSUE IN FEDERAL COURT AND
SAY SDR SEVEN DOES NOT ALLOW
THIS AND THERE'D BE LITIGATION.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THE OUTCOME
WOULD BE LYING IF I TOLD YOU
THAT I HAD ANY CONFIDENCE. THAT
THE ANSWER WOULD BE THE WOMEN IN
LANGUAGE WOULD PREVAIL AND
THEREFORE JUST THESE AMENDMENTS
CAN BE CONSIDERED. WHAT I CAN
TELL YOU IS THAT EVEN IF
CALIFORNIA LOSES ON THAT THERE
WOULD NOT BE A RUNAWAY
CONVENTION, THERE'S A PRINCIPLE
OF ON THIS PROBABLY GOES INTO
DETAIL, SO I'LL STOP AFTER I
MENTIONED IT, IF OTHER MEMBERS
WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE AUDIENCE
WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THERE'S A
DOCTRINE CALLED SEVERABILITY.
THIS IS A LEGAL ANALYSIS RIGHT
ANYTIME. I SUPPOSE THE FEDERAL
COURT RULES AGAINST CALIFORNIA
AND SAYS THE LIMITING LANGUAGE
IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, TRYING TO
LIMIT THIS CONVENTION TO JUST
GUN SAFETY PURPOSE. YOU CAN'T DO
THAT. THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE
CASE. THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT
HAPPENS TO THE REST OF SJ R
SEVEN. THERE IS A SETTLED RULE
IN CALIFORNIA. SEVERABILITY IS A
STATE LAW QUESTION, POTENTIALLY
EVEN WHEN THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT WOULD DECIDE THE QUESTION
IS WHAT DID YOU ALL THE GREAT
STATE LAWMAKERS INTEND YOU
INTEND FOR THE REST OF SDR SEVEN
TO STAY IN EFFECT, IN ANOTHER
WORDS, ALLOWING A RUNAWAY
CONVENTION EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE
LIMITED LANGUAGE WAS STRUCK DOWN
OR DID YOU MEAN FOR THE WHOLE
THING TO GO AWAY? IF WE STRIKE
DOWN JUST THE LIMITED LANGUAGE?
THERE'S NO CALL FOR A CONVENTION
AT ALL. THERE'S NOT 34 STATES.
NONE OF THE STATES THAT HAVE
THIS LIMITED LANGUAGE WOULD
COUNT AND THERE'LL BE NO
CONVENTION PERIOD. EVERYTHING
ABOUT SEVERABILITY ANALYSIS
SUGGESTS THE LATTER WOULD BE THE
OUTCOME. THE WHOLE CONVENTION
CALL WOULD GO AWAY BECAUSE
NOBODY HERE IN THE LANGUAGE OF
ITSELF. YOU COULD EVEN PUT EVEN
MORE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE IN LINE
WITH SETTLED CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT DECISIONS UPHOLDING THESE
KINDS OF NONSEVERABILITY CLAUSE
IS RIGHT. THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT IS ROUTINELY HELD THAT
THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE SUGGESTS
THE WHOLE THING GETS STRUCK DOWN
SO WE CAN'T EVEN COUNT TO 34 AT
ALL. OKAY SO MAYBE YOU WOULD BE
THERE THE RIGHT PERSON TO ANSWER
THE FOLLOWING QUESTION, GIVEN
THE 27 OF THE 50 STATES HAVE
DECLARED THEMSELVES
CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY AND ARE
ACTIVELY WORKING TO, UM DIVEST
THEMSELVES, UM. STATUES THAT
VIOLATE THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THIS
RESOLUTION MOVING FORWARD? I
THINK IF YOU ASK RIGHT NOW, IN
THIS MOMENT IN TIME AND AUGUST
2023 NOT VERY HIGH, BUT THE
WONDERFUL THING ABOUT AMERICA IS
PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MINDS.
VOTERS VOTE PEOPLE REACT TO A
CURRENT EVENTS WHEN LAWMAKERS
THE NATIONAL SCENE, DON'T
RESPOND TO EPIDEMICS OF GUN
VIOLENCE. THEY CAN CHOOSE TO
TAKE THINGS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS
AND WANT TO DO THINGS LIKE AMEND
THE CONSTITUTION TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES, PROTECT SENSIBLE GUN
SAFETY MEASURES. SO RIGHT NOW, I
DON'T THINK THERE'S A HIGH
CHANCE. THE IDEA AS I
UNDERSTAND. THIS S J R SEVEN IS
NOT TO HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL
CONVENTION TOMORROW IS TO WIN
THE SHEEP AND SHEEP, THE HEARTS
AND MINDS OF PEOPLE SO THAT WE
CAN START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE
CAN REACH A SENSIBLE MIDDLE
GROUND AND PROTECTING AMERICANS.
GOING BACK AGAIN WITH THE FOUR
PRINCIPLES OF THE RESOLUTION
ACTUALLY IS PROPOSING ANY OF OUR
STATES IN OUR COUNTRY ACTUALLY
CAN ENACT THOSE AT THIS TIME. I
WOULD REFER TO MY COLLEAGUE HERE
DANCING GOING BACK AGAIN. I'M
JUST REITERATING SINCE HE WAS SO
KNOWING ON THAT, AND I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD
IT ON RECORD. OKAY. PERFECT
THANK YOU. I THINK IF I HAVE
ANYTHING ELSE HERE. SO UM,
ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO
MAKE REALLY QUICK ON THAT END. I
KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
CONCERNS ALSO WITH REGARDS AS TO
HOW DO WE MAKE THIS OUR
COMMUNITIES SAFER? AND I THINK
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE
ACTUALLY ALSO HAD QUITE A BIT OF
DISCUSSION ON IS WHETHER OR NOT
IT IS THE GUNS THAT MAKE IT
UNSAFE, OR IS IT THE MENTAL
HEALTH AND BEHAVIOR AND CULTURAL
SOCIETAL? NORMS THAT WE ARE
SANDERSON, WHICH WERE LIVING IN
THAT MAKE IT UNSAFE FOR US, AND
I THINK THERE IS ALSO A CONCERN
ON THAT END, AND I DO I AT THIS
TIME, I'M GOING TO PUT A LITTLE
PLUG ON THE FACT THAT I WAS VERY
HAPPY TO HEAR AND TO NOEL AND BE
PART OF THIS LEGISLATURE THAT
HAS BEEN FOCUSING SO MUCH AND
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. I THINK WE
ALL SHARE THAT CONCERN AS AS A
STATE, AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS MOVING FORWARD
ON BOTH EXPANDING MENTAL HEALTH
BETH CAPACITY THAT WE HAVEN'T
HAD IN THE PAST IN ORDER TO
REALLY START HAVING THE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE IN
COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE
AREA WHERE WE AS A STATE HAS
BEEN FAILING. AND SO THE FACT
THAT EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES THAT
IS A HUGE ISSUE AND A CONCERN. I
THINK WE'RE GOING TO MOVE
FORWARD BECAUSE I WOULD BET THAT
MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT
ARE CURRENTLY COMMITTING MANY OF
THESE CRIMES WHICH, BY THE WAY,
IT'S ACCORDING TO WHAT WAS
STATED EARLIER TODAY, LESS THAN
1% WERE ACTUALLY USING SOME OF
THESE, UM AH, UM WHERE DID THEY
CALL IT? THE WHAT? YOU FOLKS
CALL THEM, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER
POINT IS THAT ASSAULT WEAPONS.
UM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY DATA
THAT OR THE DATA THAT EXISTS
THAT REFLECTS ON WHO IS ACTUALLY
COMMITTING THESE INDIVIDUALS,
ESPECIALLY WHETHER OR NOT
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS ACTUALLY A
COMPONENT OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS
COMMITTING MANY OF THESE CRIMES
. AS MENTIONED EARLIER. I
SUPPORT MANY OF THESE OF THESE
ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE,
INCLUDING IN THIS RESOLUTION,
BECAUSE I THINK IT JUST MAKES
SENSE, MANY OF THEM DO. BUT ONCE
AGAIN, I DO HAVE THE CONCERNS
THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN EXPRESSED
WITH REGARDLESS TO WHERE DOES
THIS WHERE DO WE GO WITH THIS
PANDORA'S BOX. SO HAVING SAID
THAT, SENATOR? WELL HOW WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU,
UM, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC. I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE
UNDERSTANDS THAT IF YOU ARE
FOLLOWING WITH THIS RESOLUTION
FROM LINE 31 TO ROUGHLY ABOUT 36
, IT SAYS RESOLVED THAT THIS
APPLICATION IS FOR A LIMITED
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION IN
DOES NOT GRANT CONGRESS THE
AUTHORITY TO CALL A
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION FOR
ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN THOSE SET
FORTH HERE IN AND THAT IS THIS
APPLICATION SHALL BE VOID IF
EVER USED IF AT ANY STAGE TO
CONSIDER ANY CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS ON SUBJECTS OTHER
THAN THOSE SPECIFIED HERE AND SO
FORTH, SO I JUST WANT TO CLEARLY
STATE THAT THAT IS WRITTEN IN
THIS LANGUAGE. AND WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT LEGISLATION AND POLICY UM
YOU KNOW, THE SWORD IS
DEFINITELY MY DEAR. I MEAN,
SORRY. THE PEN IS DEFINITELY
MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD. UM AND
YOU KNOW, SENATOR OKOLOBO GUY. I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU
EXPERIENCED GROWING UP AND YOU
KNOW YOUR GRANDFATHER'S STORY.
UM I ALSO HAVE A VERY SIMILAR
STORY. YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WAS
ACTUALLY MURDERED. VIA GUN
VIOLENCE, AND I THINK THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I DO
SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENT,
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE HAS
TO BE GUARDRAILS, AND I OFTEN
SAY THAT POLICY HAS NOT, YOU
KNOW, CAUGHT UP TO TECHNOLOGY.
AND YOU KNOW, POLICY IS A LITTLE
BIT SLOWER PACE. YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE A LOT OF DELIBERATION AND
MUCH MORE AND WITH 120 PEOPLE IN
THE STATE LEGISLATURE, IT'S
OFTEN SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO
COME TO SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT
ON VERY IMPORTANT MATTERS THAT
AFFECT THE LIVES OF SO MANY
PEOPLE. AND I'M VERY PROUD TO
SAY THAT AS OF TODAY, AND IT'S
GROWING, WE HAVE 50% OF THE
ENTIRE CALIFORNIA STATE
LEGISLATURE AS CO AUTHORS OF THE
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION. UM OF
BOTH HOUSES AND I'M VERY PROUD
OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW WHEN WE
OFTEN TALK ABOUT, UM THE
SAFEGUARDS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO DO, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE
REDUCE THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
AND A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF DEATH. YOU KNOW, FOR
EXAMPLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
OVERDOSES THAT ARE HAPPENING THE
GOAL OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE
AND MUCH OF YOU KNOW, OUR
COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
THE AISLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
FOCUSED ON REMOVING DRUGS OFF
THE STREET. AND TODAY WE HAVE
MORE GUNS IN THE UNITED STATES
THAN WE HAVE IN POPULATION OF
HUMAN BEINGS. AND YOU KNOW, AT A
CERTAIN POINT WE NEED TO SAY WE
NEED TO CURB CERTAIN THINGS AND
THIS PARTICULAR SENATE JOINT
RESOLUTION DOES SUPPORT THE
SECOND AMENDMENT. BUT IT ALSO
PUTS IN THE SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE
VERY REASONABLE. SO YOU KNOW, I
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT
AND WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR CALIFORNIA TO CONTINUE TO BE
A LEADER ON GUN SAFETY, NOT JUST
HERE IN CALIFORNIA, BUT FOR THE
REST OF THE NATION. AND I
SPECIFICALLY JUST WANT TO SAY
THAT FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT
HAVE EXPERIENCED GUN VIOLENCE
AND HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF GUN
VIOLENCE. I WANT TO GO BEYOND
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE LOST
THEIR LIVES OR HAVE BEEN
WOUNDED. IT IS ALSO PEOPLE LIKE
MYSELF. WHO BECAUSE OF A DEATH
OF A LOVED ONE DUE TO GUN
VIOLENCE, UM THEIR LIVES ARE
CHANGED FOREVER, TOO. AND I AM
VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE FACT
THAT YOU KNOW, GOVERNOR NEWSOM
HAS BEEN VERY BOLD AND I WANT TO
GO FURTHER THAN YOU KNOW,
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. AND I
THINK GOVERNOR NEWSOM FOR BEING
A MAN OF ACTION WITH THE COURAGE
TO NOT ONLY TALK THE TALK, BUT
WALK THE WALK AND IN THE UNITED
STATES. WE HAVE THESE RIGHTS OF
LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF
HAPPINESS, AND WE MUST EXTEND
COMMON SENSE FIREARMS REGULATION
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY IN ORDER TO
CONTINUE DELIVERING ON THAT
PROMISE, SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR WHAT
HAPPENED? YOUR REMARKS. OKAY DO
WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR SKINNER. AND THANK YOU,
SENATOR SKINNER. THE MOTION IS
THE RESOLUTION SHALL BE ADOPTED
ASSISTANT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
STR SEVEN HOB HOB BY KOBO NÓ
BRADFORD BRADFORD I SKINNER HOW
SKINNER I WIENER. RESOLUTION
RESOLUTION IS OUT. THANK YOU,
SENATOR WAHAB. THANK YOU.
SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY IS
ADJOURNED.