OKAY. THAT WAS A SHORT SIXTY
SECONDS WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH
COMMITTEES ON ALL OVER THE PLACE
ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE SENATE
COMMITTEES BUT THIS IS THE
SENATE- COMMITTEE ON RULES AND
WE WILL COME TO ORDER SO GOOD
AFTERNOON EVERYONE- THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON AND VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS WE'RE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARING IN
THE- STREET BUILDING IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS THE
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER AND
ACCESS CODE ARE POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE AND- WILL BE
IN IS BEING DISPLAYED RIGHT NOW.
ON THE SCREEN HERE IN THIS ROOM
THE PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS ONE SIX ONE EIGHT ZERO FIVE
ONE. AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF OUR
INCREDIBLE COURT REPORTER I
WOULD ASK ALL SPEAKERS AND MY
COLLEAGUES IN WITNESSES ALIKE TO
SPEAK SLOWLY AND CLEARLY. BEFORE
WE BEGIN TODAY'S AGENDA WE NEED
TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM AND A
REMINDER COLLEAGUES ONLY TO TURN
ON YOUR MICROPHONE FOR THE ROLL
CALL AND EVERY TIME THAT WE'VE
OF MADAM SECRETARY WE CALL THE
ROLL. THEY'RE HERE THEY'RE HERE
OR CHOI BOGUE A TROUBLED
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS GROVE ATKINS
HERE ATKINS HERE. THANK YOU A
QUORUM IS PRESENT AND AS I SAID
WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS THAT
ARE PRESENTING BILLS IN PLACES
THAT ARE ON OTHER COMMITTEES SO
YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE COMING AND
GOING BUT I ASSURE YOU- THEY'VE
READ THE MATERIALS THEY WILL ASK
QUESTIONS IF IT IS IF THEY'RE
HERE AT THE TIME WE DO THAT. AND
WE'LL JUST PROCEED LIKE ALL
OTHER COMMITTEES AND I GET RIGHT
DOWN TO BUSINESS WITH A BAD
SINCE I HAVE A QUORUM I AM GOING
TO TRY TO DISPENSE WITH SOME
ITEMS- THAT WILL LIKELY WILL GO
ON CALL. BUT SO THAT WE ARE
FURTHER THE BUSINESS I WOULD
LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
ITEM TWO BEFORE WE TAKE UP THE
CONFEREES THAT ARE HERE PRESENT
TODAY. ITEM TO WHICH IS-
GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES NOT
REQUIRED TO APPEAR AND I WOULD
ASK FOR A MOTION ON ITEM TO SEE
D. N. E. SO MOVE. THANK YOU AND
THESE ARE APPOINTMENTS TO THE
CALIFORNIA WATER COMMISSION. AND
THAT TOO FOR THE WATER
COMMISSION AND ONE FOR THE
SACRAMENTO SAN JOAQUIN DELTA
CONSERVANCY GOVERNING BOARD.
MADAM SECRETARY WE PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON AN TWO. LAYERED HI
THERE I- CHAU BOTH. A TROUBLE
GUYS SMALLER CUEVAS. SMALL WITH
OVERSIGHT. ATKINS HI I CAN SIDE
THAT WILL BE ON CALL. ITEM
NUMBER THREE THE REFERRAL OF
BILLS THAT WOULD TAKE A MOTION
SO MOVE THANK YOU SENATOR
EARLIER CALL THE ROLL. LAYERED
ON THEIR DIET WHICH- VOGUE. FOR
TROUBLE GUYS FOLLOWED CUEVAS.
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SIDE GROWTH
ATKINS HI I CONCISE BECAUSE THAT
WILL BE ON CALL I'M GONNA MAKE A
SEPARATION ON FLOORING KNOWLEDGE
MINTS I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION
ON ITEM FOR. OUR FOR. OUR WOULD
MOVE ITEMS. THANK YOU CENTER
LAYERED WE'VE THE ROLL ON ITEM
FOR. LAYERED ON THEIR DIET WHICH
WILL. MATURE ICE MODE. SMALL
ENVOY. GROWTH ATKINS FIVE A
CONCISE THAT WILL BE ON CALL I
WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON ITEM.
FIVE C. AND SEVEN TO GET FOR
INTRODUCTION SO MOVE THANK YOU
SENATOR LAYERED CALL THE ROLL.
LAYERED HI THERE I- CHILLED. THE
TROUBLE CRISIS MODE QUICK. SMALL
CUEVAS GROW. ATKINS HI AT. CALL
WILL BE ON CALL. SO NOW WE WILL
RETURN TO ITEM NUMBER ONE
GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES REQUIRED
TO APPEAR LET ME INVITE UP MISS
KAREN L. DOUGLAS BOB MEMBER OF
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
LET ME SAY WELCOME BACK- YOU
HAVE BEEN BEFORE US BEFORE
ALTHOUGH YOU WILL NOTICE SOME
RETURNING MEMBERS AND SOME NEW
MEMBERS. I WOULD INVITE YOU TO-
A KNOWLEDGE THANK ANYONE YOU
WOULD LIKE IT'S WITH THAT MIGHT
BE WITH YOU TODAY OR WATCHING.
AND ANA ANY OPENING COMMENTS AND
WE'LL GO RIGHT TO MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE RULES COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WELCOME
THANK YOU SO MUCH MADAM CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS IT'S A
REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY
AND IT'S AN HONOR TO RECEIVE
YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE- BY.
APPOINTMENT AND CONFIRMATION TO
THE SENATE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION I AM
TREMENDOUSLY HONORED TO HAVE
BEEN APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION
BY GOVERNOR NEWSOM IN TO APPEAR
BEFORE YOU TODAY. I'D LIKE TO
START BY RECOGNIZING AND
THANKING MY FAMILY FOR THEIR
SUPPORT- MY DAUGHTERS ARE HERE
WITH US- SERRA CERTAINLY OF
ARGUS AND- THEY'VE THEY'VE MADE
IT TO PASSED. CONFIRMATIONS- IT
AS WELL AT LEAST OF THEM MIGHT.
MY VARGAS IS ABLE BE HERE TODAY.
HE'LL BE WATCHING LATER AND I
THINK MY PARENTS THE BILL AND
VIVIAN DOUGLAS ARE ARE ONLINE IN
MY GRANDPA ACTUALLY WHO IS. IN
L. A. AND APPROACHING IS HUNDRED
AND FIRST BIRTHDAY AND STILL
TALKS TO ME ABOUT MY WORK AND
ASKED ABOUT IT- IS. HOPEFULLY
ABLE TO WATCH IT RIGHT NOW AS
WELL AND- YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY
FOR. MY A IMMEDIATE FAMILY THEY-
THE- DEMANDS OF THIS WORK AND
THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE US OF
MAKE REAL AND FREQUENT
APPEARANCES IN THEIR LIVES AND
THEIR SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING
ARE. SO IMPORTANT TO ME SO
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THEM- I COME INTO
THIS ROLE WITH A LOT OF
BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE IN
CALIFORNIA ENERGY AND- I HAVE A
LOT OF APPRECIATION FOR HOW FAR
WE'VE COME. IN THE ENERGY
TRANSITION AND I ALSO. HAVE A
LOT OF. A IN ENDICOTT VERY
CONCRETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE
CHALLENGES BEFORE US AND THE-
STEPS THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO
TAKE TO MEET THOSE CHALLENGES
AND TO STAY ON. THE PATH THAT WE
NEED TO STAY ON FOR THE BENEFIT
OF ALL CALIFORNIANS- IT'S CLEAR
AND SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS
HAVE HAVE TOUCHED ON A LOT OF
THESE POINTS THERE IS SOME
STRESS IN THE SYSTEM. AND WE
NEED TO RECOGNIZE IT AND WE NEED
TO ADDRESS IT WITH A SENSE OF
URGENCY. AND SOME OF THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD HAVE
HAVE COVERED SOME OF THESE
ISSUES AND THERE'S REALLY A LONG
LIST OF PRIORITIES AND THESE ARE
ALL THINGS THAT MATTER IN THE
MATTER NOW- SO MEETING THE
INCREASING DEMAND FOR
ELECTRICITY. BY BUILDING THE
CLEAN ENERGY PROJECTS BY MAKING
THE SYSTEM IN A SUSTAINED WAY
THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE NEED IN
THE TRANSMISSION OF THE
GENERATION AND STORAGE AND
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. TIMELY
MOVING FORWARD IN A WAY THAT'S
ALSO EQUITABLE AND THAT
RECOGNIZES THAT THERE ARE
DISPARITIES IN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT IS IN
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND
THEREFORE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT
PEOPLE HAVE TO. TAKE PART IN THE
ENERGY TRANSITION TO ELECTRIFY
THEIR HOUSE OR TO CHARGE THEIR
CARS AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH URGENCY. IN ADDRESSING SOME
OF THOSE DISPARITIES AS WELL AND
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
AFFORDABILITY WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND I DO UNDERSTAND. THAT
THERE ARE SO MANY CALIFORNIANS
FOR WHOM THEIR UTILITY BILL IS A
REGULAR SOURCE OF STRESS. AND WE
HAVE TO BE. VERY RIGOROUS AND
CREATIVE AND- AND DETERMINED ON
FINDING WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD IN
WAYS THAT PROTECT AFFORDABILITY
EVEN AS WE DO THE MANY THINGS
THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO-
WE HAVE TO STRENGTHEN
RELIABILITY NOW AND INTO THE
FUTURE. WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN A
WORLD WHERE THE CHANGING CLIMATE
IS PRESENTING US WITH NEW
CHALLENGES AND- WHERE. THE V.
METHODOLOGIES THAT WE ARE
ACCUSTOMED TO USING. AS AN
INDUSTRY STANDARD TO SAY WHETHER
WE HAVE OR HAVE NOT. PURCHASED
ENOUGH OR INSURED ENOUGH
RELIABILITY. ARE NOT REFLECTIVE
OF CURRENT AND FUTURE CONDITIONS
AND WHERE WE HAVE TO JUST
UNDERSTAND THAT AND MAKE
DECISIONS IN THAT CONTEXT. AND
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT. THE
NEED TO. BUILD THE CLEAN ENERGY
TO BUILD THE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT
RELIABILITY INTO THE FUTURE
SOMETHING WE JUST GOT TO FOCUS
ON YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR TO
GET GET THIS DONE AND- YOU KNOW
THE- BASIC CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE
OF THE INDUSTRY AS WELL- AND
WE'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE
DISCUSSIONS TIMELINES ON
INTERCONNECTION TIMELINES ON
CUSTOMER. ENERGY IS ASIAN-
MUNICH CATIONS TWO. PEOPLE TO
CUSTOMERS WHEN THINGS ARE
HAPPENING THAT THEY REALLY NEED
TO KNOW ABOUT. LIKE THE- NATURAL
GAS PRICE SPIKES THAT HIT US IN
THE WINTER THE THESE ARE THINGS
THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON
AND THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION. REALLY HAS A CENTRAL
ROLE IN ALL OF THIS YOU KNOW
IT'S THE MISSION AND FOCUS OF
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
TO SAFEGUARD THE PROVISION OF
CRITICAL UTILITY SERVICES TO
CUSTOMERS IN A SAFE AND RELIABLE
AND AFFORDABLE WAY AND SO YOU
KNOW HOW WE- SOLVE FOR THESE
VERY REAL ISSUES AS WE MOVE
FORWARD. HOW WE BALANCE THESE
DIFFERENT- PARTS OF THE MISSION
ARE GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT
IT'S GOING TO TAKE ATTENTION TO
DETAIL AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO
TAKE. AN ABILITY I THINK TO
PROBLEM SOLVE AND TO REALLY LOOK
FOR WAYS THAT YOU SOLVE FOR
MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES CREATIVELY
WHILE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE
SYSTEM AND THEN SUPPORTING THE
EURO EVERY EFFORT TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF PEOPLE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA SO- I JUST WANTED TO.
SAY YOU YOU KNOW CLEARLY THAT I
RECOGNIZE THOSE CHALLENGES AND
YOU KNOW FEEL A SENSE OF URGENCY
TO. WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON
THE CPUC AND- THROUGHOUT THE
STATE AND STAKEHOLDERS AND YOU
KNOW. IN THE PROCESS OF
ADDRESSING THEM AND- I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO THAT
AND I ALSO. HAVE A SENSE OF
OPTIMISM THAT WE CAN DO THAT-
I'VE SEEN. CALIFORNIA ACHIEVE
REALLY AMAZING THINGS IN THE
ENERGY TRANSITION AND I'VE SEEN-
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE REALLY CARE
RISE THE OCCASION TO GET FOR
EXAMPLE PROJECTS PERMITTED AND
BUILT AND- SUPPLYING CLEAN
ENERGY TO THE GRID AT TIMES WHEN
WE HAD THE REAL OPPORTUNITY AND
WILL NEED TO DO THAT AND SO. I
THINK WE CAN DO IT I THINK WE DO
NEED TO BRING THE LEADERSHIP AND
SUSTAINED FOCUS ON TO THAT. AND
IT'S A REAL PRIVILEGE AND HONOR
FOR ME TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PLAY THIS ROLE OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION I- REALLY WELCOME
YOUR QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR THE DIALOGUE SAID
THAT. A NUMBER OF US HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO HAVE AS WELL OVER THE
LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. SIX THANK
YOU VERY MUCH MR AND LYFT
CONGRATULATIONS TO- ARE YOU
YOU'RE YOU'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A
GRANDFATHER THAT'S OVER A
HUNDRED YEARS OLD. AND THAT HE'S
LISTENING SO TO YOUR FAMILY I
THANK THEM FOR THE SUPPORT THAT
THEY'VE GIVEN YOU- IT'S GOOD TO
HAVE YOU BACK HERE AND WHAT A
SUBSTANTIVE OPENING- AS ALWAYS
NOT ON SURPRISING I'M GONNA GO
FIRST TO SENATOR LAYERED AND- TO
KICK US OFF THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THE
MINUTE I'M DONE ASKING QUESTIONS
OF TO GO PRESENT TO BILLS- IN I
REALLY APPRECIATED OUR- OUR-
LONG DISCUSS. AND I'VE YOU FOR
TWENTY YEARS TOO MANY OF YOUR
DEFERRED IN CARD. SO I HAVE A
BASIC FAITH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
DO A JOB GOOD JOB AND THAT YOU
HAVE LONG BEEN GROUNDED IN THE
SIX. ONE USE YOU WANT INTO IN
YOUR OPENING STATEMENT AND I
WANT TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE
MORE. WAS ON THE WHOLE ISSUE OF
ELECTRICITY RATES. BECAUSE. WE
HAVE LOADED SIX AMOUNT OF OUR
CLIENT PROBE ON THE- AND- IT'S
MY VIEW NOT. OVER TO AND YET THE
CLIMATE PROGRAM HAS TO. AND SO.
HOW DO YOU SEE THAT BALANCE AND
HOW DO YOU SEE YOUR ROLE IN P.
AS IN THE P. YOU SEE IN
ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE. SO THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I
THINK WE HAVE TO DO CENTER AND I
EIGHT. EIGHT THERE ABSOLUTELY
ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THROUGH
RATES SUPPORTED SOME OF OUR
CLIMATE PROGRAMS YOU KNOW ONE
EXAMPLE IS- THAT THE P. SIGNED.
ABOVE MARKET CONTRACTS TO HELP
BRING UTILITY SCALE SOLAR ONLINE
BACK DURING THE RECOVERY ACT
AND- THE CONTRACTS HAD THEIR OF.
DESIRED EFFECT WE GOT A LOT OF
PROJECTS ONLINE THERE WAS A LOT
OF FEDERAL STIMULUS MONEY AND
BENEFITS THE CAME TO CALIFORNIA
WE HAD WORK FORCE BENEFITS AND
THE OVERALL COST OF THE
PROJECT'S. ULTIMATE AND THE
INDUSTRY ALTERNATELY DECLINED
AND WE'RE SEEING THE BENEFIT OF
THAT NOW BUT THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE
YOU KNOW WE HAVE. OTHER PROGRAMS
AS WELL. THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE
RIGHT LEVEL OF RATEPAYER
BENEFITS AND AS WE ORDER THAT
MAY HAVE ONCE HAD THOSE BENEFITS
BUT- MAY NOT BE PAYING THE SAME
DIVIDENDS TODAY BECAUSE OF
CHANGING CONDITIONS. I DO THINK
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE
TO LOOK AT AND- IN THAT THE
LEGISLATURE HAS PROVIDED
SUPPORT. TO AFFORDABILITY AS
WELL QUITE A BIT OF SUPPORT IN
THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE ON. ALL OF
US ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBLEM
SOLVE ON HOW WE STAY ON OUR PATH
HOW WE MEET OUR GOALS AND ALSO
SOLVE. AFFORDABILITY ISSUES AND
SO WE'LL JUST WELCOME THE
OPPORTUNITY IT CAN TO KEEP THE
DIALOGUE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY IT'S
SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY
INTERESTED IN AND WE REALLY WANT
TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THEY'RE
STARTING TO BE SUBMERGENCE SEE
JUST BECAUSE- I MENTIONED TO YOU
THAT I HAVE A- A LONGTIME
ACTIVIST FRIEND IN SANTA CRUZ
WHO IS REQUIRED ON A FIXED
INCOME AND EVERY OTHER MONTH.
SENDS ME THE COPY OF FOR P.
JEANNIE BILL SAYING HOW MY
SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD
THIS IT AND- IT AND MY ONLY
RESPONSE IS I BRING IT UP HAD
RULES COMMITTEE HEARING SAID
THAT SHE ALWAYS FEELS. HEARD BUT
WHO WERE TRYING TO WOMEN OR
QUESTIONS SO LET ME USE MY
SECOND QUESTION IS A FOLLOW UP.
BECAUSE THERE. IS NOW THE
PROPOSAL THAT'S OUT THERE. TO A
SLIDER SCALE ON INCOME FOR
UTILITY RATES AND THE FIRST
BLUSH. AND I'VE ONLY READ IT
PERSONALLY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE
IF YOU MAKE OVER A HUNDRED
THOUSAND YOU'RE IN THE SAME CAP
RATE CATEGORIES SOMEBODY THAT
MAKES A MILLION. AND HOW DO WE-
DESIGN A RATE SYSTEM TEXTURES
GENUINELY DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN
WORKING PEOPLE AND PEOPLE THAT
HAVE WEALTH BEFORE GOING TO DO
THAT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT
THAT'S THE DISTINCTION THAT.
THAT WE DO IN THE RICHEST.
THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION I THINK
ALSO A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL
ANSWERING IT BUT I WOULD. THIS
IS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOME KIND
OF PROCEEDING TO WATCH OF COURSE
WE HAVE YES WE HAVE A PROCEEDING
WE HAVE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN THE
PRECEDING- THERE HAS NOT BEEN A
P. YOU SEE PROPOSAL THERE HAVE
BEEN- PROPOSALS FROM PARTIES FOR
HOW. CERTAIN THINGS SHOULD BE
DONE. BUT BUT BACKING UP TO WHAT
. WE I THINK NEED TO DO WITH
THAT PROPOSAL WHAT. WHAT'S BEING
CONSIDERED IS AN INCOME BASED OR
IN INCOME GRADUATED FIXED CHARGE
AND PER THE LEGISLATION. THAT
WERE- IMPLEMENTING THERE HAVE TO
BE AT LEAST THREE CATEGORIES OF
INCOME SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
THAT IT HAS TO BE. FURTHER
GRADUATED THAN THAT ALTHOUGH THE
PC CAN CONSIDER. OTHER
GRADATIONS NOW. RIGHT NOW. IN
THE- IN THE SYSTEM THAT THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
REGULATES- RATES ARE. VOLUMETRIC
SO IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU USE-
ZERO ELECTRICITY OF YOU'RE NOT
PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM IF YOU
YOU KNOW AS YOU USE MORE AT
DIFFERENT INCREMENTS YOU PAY
MORE. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE
AND ACTUALLY MANY MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES AND MANY MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES YOU HAVE A CERTAIN
FIXED CHARGE THAT REPRESENTS THE
IT JUST REFLECTS THE FACT THAT
KEEPING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN
WORKING ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
COST MONEY WE'RE ALMOST HERE
REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH THEY USE
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT
PROVIDING ELECTRICITY AT
DIFFERENT LEVELS OF USE. IT HAS
AN ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH IT SO ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT YOU KNOW THE FUNDAMENTAL
PART THAT WERE LOOKING AT TO
START WITH IS- WHAT'S THE
APPROPRIATE AND FAIR FIXED
CHARGE- WITH THE ADDITIONAL.
LAYER OF HAVING THAT BE IN SOME
REASONABLE WAY REFLECTIVE OF
INCOME FOR THE LEGISLATION AND
SO- WHAT. DID IT YOU KNOW WHAT
IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AS WE
LOOK AHEAD AT HOW OUR SYSTEM IS
CHANGING HOW TECHNOLOGIES ARE
CHANGING HOW THE WEIGHT HOW
PEOPLE USE ENERGY. IS WE ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO. MAKE SURE THAT
WE CAN PAY FOR THE SYSTEM THAT
WE ALL NEED AND THAT WE ALL USE
IN A REASONABLE WAY I DO THINK
THAT. THE OPPORTUNITY THAT HAS
BEEN GIVEN TO US TO. LOOK HARD
AT THAT ISSUE TO TAKE IN
COMMENTS AND TO CONSIDER
PROPOSALS AND PUT FORTH A
PROPOSAL IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
ONE. AND WILL BE- ALL OF US
COMMISSIONERS ON THE PC WILL BE
TAKING THAT SERIOUSLY AND PAYING
CLOSE ATTENTION TO IT- YOU KNOW
WHETHER WE ARE ASSIGNED TO IT OR
NOT BUT BUT WITHOUT ANY DOUBT
YOU KNOW UNLESS SOMEONE IS OFF
GRID. EVERYBODY IS USING. THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM EVERYBODY'S
USING IT. AND SO WE DO HAVE TO
FIGURE OUT HOW YOU KNOW WHAT IS
THE MOST FAIR AND APPROPRIATE
WAY TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT
SYSTEM FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
STATE. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND APPRECIATE THAT I WANT TO
COMMENT AND I THINK SAID. THAT
IT JUST GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT
THE TWO QUESTIONS INNER.
REPRESENT IT WAS MY PRIORITY IN
MANY OF THOSE PROBABLY IN THE
LEGISLATURE AND THAT OVER TIME
WE WANT TO WORK ON THOSE
PRIORITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE-
WE GET TOWARDS THE SCHOOLS. ARE
APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE AND IF
I'M NOT HERE WHEN THE ROLL CALL
COMES UP I WILL BE A YES VOTE
ONE EVER- I CAN GET BACK. SO
THANK YOU THANK YOU SENATOR
LEARNING QUEUE FOR THE CAN.
MANAGE THANK YOU CENTER- SENATOR
A CHOI BOGUE. INTERESTINGLY
ENOUGH WE HAVE THE SAME
CONVERSATION QUESTIONS AS MY
COLLEAGUE FROM THE SENATE CRUISE
SO WE SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS
AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THINK
WE SHARE THE CONCERNS. ON BEHALF
OF MANY OF THE- MEMBERS THAT WE
HAVE. MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES TO
SHORE AND SO HAVING. HAD HIM
**** QUESTIONS I'M GONNA GO AND
TOUCH UPON IT THE QUESTION THAT
WE DISCUSSED- IN OUR OFFICE
WHICH WAS. WITH REGARDS TO THE
TO THE STUDY OR THE
INVESTIGATION INTO THE RISE OF
THE- COST OF THE RAPID. AUST AS
INCREASING IN GAS PRICES LAST
WINTER. IN A MINUTE A FOLLOW UP
WITH THE WITH. TWO QUESTIONS
THEN YOU CAN AND THEN YOU CAN
ELABORATE ON ON YOUR TIME. AND
ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE TIME
PERIOD THE ESTIMATED AT PERIOD
OF THE MISS YOU TO WHICH IS
ABOUT THREE YEARS. AND THE
CONCERNS EXPRESSED WITH REGARDS
TO- BEING A VERY LENGTHY PERIOD
OF TIME IN ORDER TO DO ALL OF
THE INVESTIGATIONS AND BY THAT
PERIOD OF TIME IT'S GOOD. IN MY
OPINION THE A BIT HARD TO HOLD
PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE- AND IT THE
RISKS THAT THAT COMES FROM. THE
POSSIBILITY OF OCCURRING AGAIN-
ON THAT END TO END IT WHAT DO WE
LEARN THIS PAST- WITH THIS PAST
EXPERIENCE OF LAST WINTER AND-
IS THERE ANYTHING THERE WERE.
MITIGATING IN ORDER TO AVOID-
THOSE RAPID- COST INTEREST
WITHOUT PREPARATION ON BEHALF OF
OUR CONSTITUENTS ESPECIALLY IF
THE MULTIPLE ONCE WE SPOKE ABOUT
. ABSOLUTELY AND THANK YOU FOR
THAT QUESTION AND FOR THE TIME
YESTERDAY- SO I KNEW WHEN I WAS
WRITING THE RESPONSES TO THE
QUESTIONS THAT NOBODY WAS GOING
TO LIKE THE ANSWER TO HOW LONG
THE- INVESTIGATION WAS LIKELY TO
TAKE IN AND SO. ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT I PUT IN THE
RESPONSE AND THAT I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE NOW IS- THE FACT THAT
IT. MAY TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
TIME TO GET TO FROM START TO
FINISH TO VOTING OUT THE OUTCOME
OF AN INVESTIGATION. DOESN'T
STOP US AND CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO
STOP US FROM. IDENTIFYING USEFUL
ACTIONABLE STEPS THAT WE CAN BE
TAKING FROM WHAT WE'RE LEARNING
AS THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUES.
BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT
TO DO IS. HOLD OFF ON USING ANY
OF THIS INFORMATION UNTIL WE
HAVE IT PERFECT AND DONE AND IN
THE MEANTIME YOU KNOW WHAT ABOUT
THIS WINTER WHAT ABOUT NEXT
WINTER AND SO WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO BE. LEARNING AS WE
GO- IT STARTS SAY THINK WITH
WHAT DID WE LEARN ABOUT THE
CHALLENGES AND THE ACTIONS TAKEN
TO NOTIFY PEOPLE. OF THE
CHANGING AND THE RAPIDLY
INCREASING NATURAL GAS PRICES
BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
UNFORTUNATELY IF YOU WERE NOT
SIGNED UP TO GET TEXT MESSAGES
FROM YOUR UTILITY IF YOU WEREN'T
CHECKING YOUR- YOU KNOW IF YOU
WEREN'T READING YOUR EMAILS FROM
THE UTILITY OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN. THAT
PRICES WERE SPIKING YOU MAY NOT
HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT YOU EVEN
SHOULD BE. TAKING ACTIONS TO
REDUCE NATURAL GAS USED TO THE
EXTENT THAT YOU ARE ABLE FOR
EXAMPLE. AND SO ONE OF THE AREAS
THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO LOOK
AT IS. HOW DO WE IMPROVE. OUR
ABILITY AND OF COURSE LARGELY
IT'S THE UTILITIES OUT REACH TO
THEIR CUSTOMERS SO THE PEOPLE
ARE NOTIFIED. OF WHAT'S
HAPPENING AND HOW DO WE- HOW DO
WE USE WHAT WE LEARNED. FROM THE
ASSESSMENT THAT WE'VE DONE AND
WE DID HAVE AN ON BALAKOT THEN
AND THAT. MEANS THE BALL THE
COMMISSIONERS COMMON WE HAVE A
BASICALLY HEARING OR WORKSHOP ON
ON. OF WHAT HAPPENED AND WE DID
GET A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION
FROM THAT HOW DO WE USE WHAT WE
HAVE LEARNED AND WHAT WE ARE
LEARNING TO. PUT THE STATE IN A
BETTER POSITION TO BE ABLE TO
MITIGATE SOME OF THE SWINGS IN
PRICES AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH
THE- LOOKING AT HOW WE USE
STORAGE FOR EXAMPLE AND-
CONSIDERING OTHER MEASURES SO.
YOU KNOW WE DON'T DIRECTLY.
REGULATE COMMODITY PRICES WE E.
THE L. IT VERY MUCH WAS A WEST
WIDE EVENT IT WASN'T TOO
CALIFORNIA SPECIFIC EVENT BUT
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE
AREN'T THINGS WE MIGHT BE ABLE
TO DO. TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A
BETTER POSITION TO RESPOND
EITHER ON THE NATURAL GAS SIDE
WAR. ON THE ELECTRICITY SIDE
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO PAY
ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE
SPIKE WAS IN GAS PRICES BUT A
VERY MUCH IMPACTED ELECTRICITY
PRICES AT THE SAME TIME. SO
THAT'S NOT A PERFECT ANSWER I
WILL. GO BACK AND DRILL DOWN IN
THAT TIME LINE AND LOOK AT THAT
AND YOU KNOW WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT
THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEDERAL
INVESTIGATION AT THE SCENE YOU
KNOW WE DON'T- JUST BECAUSE OF
THEIR PROCESS WE DON'T ACTUALLY
KNOW. BUT THE GOVERNOR REQUESTED
A FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THE
EVENT AS WELL. SO I EAT I DO
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT
WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT
HAPPENED TO THE BEST OF OUR
ABILITY AND THAT WE TAKE REAL
STEPS TO- MITIGATE THE IMPACTS
OF SUCH AN EVENT WERE TO HAPPEN
AGAIN. THANK YOU. SENATOR
SMALLER CUEVAS THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND THANK YOU-
MISSISSAUGAS FOR OUR
OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET INTO CHAD
AND FOR YOUR- VERY SENSITIVE
RESPONSES- TODAY TO THE
QUESTIONS BEING ASKED AND
LEARNED SO MUCH IN THESE FROM.
SPACES IN AND I AND WE SPOKE
ABOUT ENGAGEMENT ON THE ON THE
CALL AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU
REITERATED THAT HERE TODAY. YOU
KNOW I WANTED TO JUST FOLLOW UP
ON THE INTERSECTION THAT I'M
MOST CONCERNED ABOUT AND THAT IS
SORT OF THIS. THE ROOT CAUSES OF
COMPOUND IT POVERTY AND HOW DO
WE ENSURE THAT- OUR INVESTMENTS
IN THE P. YOU SEE AND- IN
INNOVATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
HOW DO THEY BECOME MULTIPLIERS-
IN TERMS OF BUILDING
INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED- BUT
ALSO- ADDRESSING THOSE
COMMUNITIES SO MANY THAT ARE
MOST IMPACTED BY ENVIRONMENTAL.
RACISM AND- ECONOMIC INEQUALITY-
WE JUST HAD THE GOVERNOR SIGNED
SB ONE FIFTY WHICH IS CALLING
FOR COMMUNITY BENEFITS- TO BE A
PART OF HOW WE DO OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE WORK MOVING
FORWARD USING ALL OF. THE
FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS-
AND CLIMATE RESILIENCY FUNDING
WHICH IS YOU KNOW A TREMENDOUS
OPPORTUNITY BUT JUXTAPOSING THAT
RIGHT- WITH THE ROLE THAT THE P.
YOU SEE PLAYS- PARTICULARLY
AROUND CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE
DEPLOYMENTS- LOOKING AT YOU KNOW
FOR ME THE LACK OF TV. CHARGING
IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND LOW
WAGE WORKING COMMUNITIES- THAT
HAVE YOU KNOW THE CALAVERAS
GREEN. SCORES THAT ARE THE MOST
APPALLING YOU KNOW WHAT IS IT
THAT THE PC IS DOING- NOT JUST
TO BRING INFRASTRUCTURE
VERTICALLY ECV INFRASTRUCTURE TO
MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS- BUT
HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT
INCLUDING THINGS LIKE JOB
TRAINING LIKE LOCAL HIRING- SO
THAT YOU KNOW THESE PROJECTS
BECOME A MULTIPLE BENEFIT. TO
COMMUNITIES. YEAH THANK YOU FOR
THE QUESTION AND FOR THE
CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE ABLE
TO HAVE. I THINK THERE ARE
TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES HERE
FOR. COMMUNITIES AND ESPECIALLY
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN
THIS FIELD BECAUSE- WE HAVE SO
MUCH NEED. FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE
AND- AND THAT OCCURS ACROSS. THE
SAFETY ACROSS. YOU KNOW
INTERCONNECTING DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM- UPGRADES TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS AND SO THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES AND A LOT OF WAYS.
FINDING THE TRAINED WORK FORCE
THAT'S ABLE TO DO THE WORK IS
YOU CAN BE A BARRIER TO DOING
THE WORK AS QUICKLY AS AS WE
MIGHT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO DO IT
AND SO THERE ARE- THERE ARE REAL
OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE AN MO YOU
THE PC HAS AN MO YOU WITH THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND
WE TRY TO GET THEIR INPUT IN THE
PROGRAMS AND IT YOU KNOW THAT WE
HAVE WHERE WORKFORCE TRAINING
MAYBE- A PART OF IT WE DO GET
REPORTING FROM SOME PARTICULAR
PROGRAMS WHERE WORKFORCE
TRAINING IS ABSOLUTELY A PART OF
IT AND I CAN SHARE WITH YOU SOME
OF THE- KIND OF. DETAIL
RESPONSES I THINK I ACTUALLY DID
BUT I CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU.
YOU GET THEM IN TERMS OF- SOME
OF THE WORK FORCE TRAINING AND
ACTUAL FALL UNEMPLOYMENT FROM
CERTAIN PROGRAMS- THAT BEING
SAID I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE
THAT CAN BE DONE AND- SOME OF IT
IS ABOUT WHAT THE CPUC. CAN DO
DIRECTLY I THINK A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO COME
FROM THE UTILITIES AND FROM
DEVELOPERS AND WE MAY NEED MORE
OF A- COORDINATION EFFORT TO
REALLY CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE
EIGHTY AND MAKE SOME OF THOSE
CONNECTIONS- THERE'S ALSO. THERE
ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR
FEDERAL FUNDING IN IN THE WORK
FORCE SPACE OF COURSE THE
STATE'S PUTTING A LOT OF FUNDING
INTO WORKFORCE TRAINING AND-
HELPING THAT COME TOGETHER TO
SUPPORT THE- ENERGY TRANSITION
AND THE ELECTRICITY AND ENERGY
WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS
REALLY IMPORTANT IT'S DEFINITELY
SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN.
FOLLOWING UP ON NO I APPRECIATE
THAT AND I WAS CURIOUS HAS THERE
EVER BEEN AN EFFORT TO EMBED
COMMUNITY BENEFITS. SORT OF
FRAMEWORKS INSIDE OF THE EEVEE
INFRASTRUCTURE SPACE- I DON'T
KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT THE-
THE- I AM MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE
EEVEE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT
PROGRAMS INITIALLY THAT THROUGH
THE ENERGY COMMISSION AND SO. I
DON'T THINK THERE IS. BUT BUT I
CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT AT
THE P. YOU SEE WHAT WE WOULD BE
LOOKING AT IS- PARTICULARLY YOU
KNOW STARTING WITH. OUR THE
UTILITIES IN A POSITION WHERE
THEY CAN ENERGIZE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND JUST GET IT
CONNECTED AND GET IT WORKING.
EVEN WHEN WE- AS WE PRIORITIZE
ROLLING OUT EVE YOU CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE IN COMMUNITIES
THAT- DON'T HAVE. A LOT OF THAT
INVESTMENT ALREADY WHAT WE
REALLY NEED INVESTMENT IS THE
SYSTEM READY. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
DO YOU ANY GOOD TO SHOW UP WITH
A BANK OF CHARGERS IF IT CAN'T
BE CONNECTED TO POWER AND WORK
SO. SO A LOT OF THE FOCUS THAT
WE NEED TO DO WITH THE P. YOU
SEE IS JUST MAKING SURE THE
UTILITIES KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO
GET THE SYSTEM READY BECAUSE THE
CHARGERS ARE COMING AND WE DON'T
WANT PEOPLE LEFT BEHIND AND NOT
GETTING CHARGERS- BECAUSE MAYBE
THEY'RE AREA HAS BEEN UNDER
INVESTED IN- SO I THINK THAT'S
WHERE WE START. AND AND BUILD
FROM THERE. HE THANK YOU FOR
THAT IN FOR THE INVITATION I HAD
TO CONTINUE TO WORK- IN THIS
SPACE AND I REALLY WANT TO- ALSO
JUST GOING BACK TO THE POINT IN
THIS IS MY SECOND. QUESTION IN
TERMS OF THE OUT REACH BECAUSE-
YOU KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT OUT
REACH I OFTEN SAY ENGAGEMENT
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S A TWO
WAY- PROCESS AND YOU KNOW
WHETHER IT'S WHY ARE THE- COSTS
SPIKING. TOO YOU KNOW HOW DO WE
ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW THOSE
COMMUNITIES THAT NEED. US
SUPPORT TO PAY THEIR BILLS
ACTUALLY KNOW THAT THESE JOBS-
ARE AN OPPORTUNITY IT ALSO HAS
TO DEAL WITH THE INTERNAL
ENGAGEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND
YOU WE HAVE THE PUBLIC ADVOCATE
COME BEFORE US AND SHARE THAT
THEY HAD ONE ENGAGEMENT STAFF
FOR THE TWENTY MILLION PLUS RATE
PAYERS- AND YOU KNOW I WHO WE
TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW WAYS THAT
THE PC MIGHT BE IN. SORT OF
THINKING ABOUT- CONSIDERING
ENGAGEMENT AND WAYS TO BUILD
THOSE KINDS OF PARTNERSHIPS I'D
LOVE FOR YOU TO SHARE THAT WITH-
WITH THE REST OF THE MEMBERS
TODAY BECAUSE THAT WAS AN
INTERESTING. PERSPECTIVE YEAH
ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU- YOU KNOW I
THINK THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SIDE
OF WHAT WE DO IS SO IMPORTANT
AND IT'S AN AREA. THAT WE NEED
TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO
BETTER- ONE OF THE- ONE OF THE
THINGS ABOUT THE WAY THE P. YOU
SEE. OFTEN WORKS IS THAT YOU
WILL HAVE ENGAGEMENT AROUND A
PROGRAM OR AROUND A PRECEDING
AND- AND IT'S OFTEN VERY
THOROUGH AND PEOPLE YOU KNOW
THERE WILL BE NOTICING AND EVERY
THERE COULD BE. LETTERS AND
THERE COULD BE YOU KNOW OUT OF
REACH OF VARIOUS KINDS- IT AND
THERE ARE CERTAINLY. EFFORTS TO
GET PEOPLE YOU KNOW. HELP PEOPLE
SIGN UP FOR PROGRAMS AND HELP
PEOPLE POTENTIALLY FILL OUT ONE
APPLICATION RATHER THAN MULTIPLE
APPLICATIONS TO GET INTO
PROGRAMS THAT- THAT WHERE THEY
MAY QUALIFY FOR MULTIPLE
PROGRAMS SO. THE CPUC DOES HAVE
. STRUCTURE IT CAN BE PROGRAM BY
PROGRAM AND PART OF WHAT WE
TALKED ABOUT THAT I'M REALLY
STILL THINKING ABOUT IS. THE
BROADER QUESTION ALSO OF HELPING
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY HEAR
ABOUT A POTENTIAL RATE INCREASE.
OR OR THE- EXPERIENCE A
RELIABILITY ISSUE WHERE LIKE
BACK IN SEPTEMBER YOU KNOW WE
HAD TEN DAYS OF FLEX ALERTS IN
AND- YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO. FIND A
WAY OF COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T
KNOW WHAT HOW EXTENSIVE HOW DEEP
THE CHANGES ARE THAT ARE
OCCURRING IN OUR ENERGY SYSTEM.
OR HOW QUICKLY THOSE CHANGES ARE
OCCURRING AND- HOW THE BULLS CAN
BENEFIT FROM THEM BUT ALSO WHAT
IS THE TRAJECTORY WHAT ARE THE
COSTS. AND WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS
AND IT'S NOT ONLY FOR EXAMPLE
THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS OF
SOMETHING LIKE ELECTRIFICATION
AND THOSE BENEFITS ARE REAL BUT
IT'S ALSO- AS WE ELECTRIFIED AS
MORE PEOPLE ARE USING
ELECTRICITY THOSE COSTS ARE
SPREAD OUT OVER. MORE USE YOU
KNOW PEOPLE'S ALL IN ENERGY
BILLS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE
SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN ELECTRIC
VEHICLE THEY'LL SEE THEIR-
ELECTRIC BILL GO UP THERE THERE
GASOLINE COSTS WILL GO DOWN WHAT
IS THAT ALL IN COST YOU KNOW
WHAT'S OUR- WHAT'S OUR VISION
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE- MILESTONES
WATER SOME OF THE WAYS THAT.
PEOPLE CAN SEE OVERALL HOW THEY
MAY BE IMPACTED AND HOW THEY CAN
MAYBE BENEFIT- AND I THINK WE
NEED TO KIND OF. THINK THROUGH
WHAT THAT COMMUNICATION LOOKS
LIKE THAT'S NOT JUST A P. YOUSIF
YOU KNOW IN SOME CASES IT MAYBE
IT'S ENERGY COMMISSION OR MAYBE
IT'S A OR B. OR OR YOU KNOW. BUT
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HELP-
PAINT THE VISION BECAUSE FOR
PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW. DO THEIR
WORK AND PAY THEIR BILLS AND
DON'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THE
ENERGY WORLD- YOU KNOW. IT
WOULDN'T BE ALL THAT SURPRISING
IF THEY HAVEN'T SEEN HOW GREAT
THE RATE OF TECHNOLOGY CHANGE
HOW GREAT THE RATE OF CHANGE HAS
BEEN. INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGING
AND- AND THERE'S MORE THAT'S
GOING TO BE NEEDED TO REALLY GET
WHERE WE'RE GOING AND- YOU KNOW
. THE CONVERSATION IS DIFFERENT
FOR PEOPLE IN IN URBAN AREAS
WHERE YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT
YOU KNOW HOW DO WE MAKE SURE
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO VEHICLE
CHARGING YOU KNOW WHAT. WHAT ARE
WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES WITH
STORAGE WITH SOLAR WITH THE- OF
HEAT PUMPS YOU KNOW. WHAT WHAT
ARE SOME OF THE WORK WHAT SOME
OF THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE
DONE SO THAT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES
CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES CAN CAN PARTICIPATE
IN THOSE TECHNOLOGIES- YOU KNOW.
GOING BACK TO PERMITTING AND
BUILDING CLEAN ENERGY. SO THAT
WE CAN MEET DEMAND. THERE'S THE
LAND USE SIDE OF IT IT WAS THE
TRANSMISSION PERMITTING SIDE OF
IT AND SO I DO THINK THAT WE
NEED TO BE MAYBE MORE CONCRETE.
WITH WHAT THIS WHAT THIS LOOKS
LIKE IN AND- I'D REALLY WELCOME
. YOUR THOUGHTS AS I SAID WHEN
WE MET. YOU KNOW AND ON HOW TO
HOW TO DO THAT AND HOW TO HAVE
SOME OF THAT COMMUNICATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- I'LL
FOLLOW ALONG ON THAT BECAUSE I
THINK OBVIOUSLY THIS ONUS IS ON
ALL OF US NOT JUST YOU. YOU ARE
ONE OF THE MOST EXPERIENCED
PEOPLE IN THIS ROLE- YOU KNOW
FOR QUITE A LONG TIME SO. THOSE
OF US WHO ARE MORE LATE PEOPLE
I'M NOT GOING CLUED MR LEHRER
HE'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW AND THAT
HE DOESN'T GET TO BE INCLUDED IN
THE LAY PERSON- DEFINITION BUT-
YOU KNOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT
WHEN ISSUE WORTH ANSWERING-
SENATOR SMALLWOOD CUEVAS IS
QUESTION AND EXPANDED AT THE
VERY END YOU TALKED ABOUT. YOU
KNOW STORAGE IN CHARGE STATIONS
AND PARTICIPATING IN
TECHNOLOGIES SOME OF THE
COMMUNITIES I REPRESENT DON'T
EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. THEY
DON'T BENEFIT FROM ANY OF THAT
NOT YET. AND YOU KNOW MUCH LIKE
MY COLLEAGUE. MR LAYERED I'M
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
EXPLAIN TO MY CONSTITUENTS I
HAVE COMMUNITIES OF A FLUENCE I
HAVE FRIENDS. THAT HAVE YOU KNOW
EV'S AND THEY THEY PARTICIPATE
IN A BROAD RANGE OF ALL THESE
THINGS. BUT I HAVE CONSTITUENTS
THAT DO NOT AND THEY HAVE NO.
MIND SAID. NOR THE ABILITY TO
EVEN. FANTASIZE ABOUT THAT AND
SO FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO
WAY THROUGH THIS AND EXPLAIN TO
THEM. AS COSTS CONTINUE TO GO UP
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO SPREAD THE
COST IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE
INFRASTRUCTURE. TO MEET OUR
CLIMATE GOALS THAT WE PUT IN
PLACE BY THE WAY. WE PUT THOSE
GOALS IN PLACE FOR A REASON
UNDERSTANDING THE SIGNIFICANCE
BUT I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION I
JUST. THIS IS THE STRUGGLE I
HAVE BECAUSE THOSE WERE MY
FAMILY MEMBERS WE COULD YOU KNOW
WE BARELY GOT. AN INCREASE IN
WAGES WHICH PEOPLE YELL AT US
ABOUT FOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO INCREASE WAGES FOR.
REGULAR WORKING PEOPLE AND THEY
BARELY GET THAT INCREASE IN THE
NEXT THING YOU KNOW. THEY'VE GOT
AN INCREASE IN ELECTRIC RATES
AND GASOLINE PRICES IN NATURAL
GAS SO THAT'S MY DILEMMA AS MUCH
AS IT IS. YOURS I'M GLAD YOU'RE
THE EXPERT TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO
KIND OF PIECE THESE THINGS
TOGETHER. BUT WE DO HAVE A
CHALLENGE WE REALLY DO- I
APPRECIATE YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE
TRYING TO GO- AND WE'RE ONLY
GOING TO GET THERE IF WE TAKE
THE STEPS WERE WHAT YOU LEARN IN
THE PROCEEDINGS AS YOU LOOK AT
THIS. ARTICLE FIRST SENATOR
LAYERED TALKED ABOUT THE
PROCEEDING WHICH IS ABOUT THE
FIXED CHARGE. ARE FIXED RATE AND
WHAT IS THAT GOING TO MEAN FOR
LOW INCOME PEOPLE'S REALLY WHAT
I'M MOST INTERESTED IN. BECAUSE
SOME OF THE REST OF US ARE
FORTUNATE ENOUGH IT MAY WE MAY
NOT WANT TO PAY MORE. BUT WE NOW
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO. GET OUT
TO TAKE ON THAT COST WERE AS MY
NEIGHBOR MAY NOT- TO DO ISSUE SO
IT'S ARE CHALLENGED I IT'S OUR
CHALLENGE- AND WHAT YOU LEARN AS
YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCEEDING.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HEAR
IN OUR POLICY COMMITTEES MAY ASK
OUR BUDGET COMMITTEES AS WE YOU
KNOW SUB BUDGET COMMITTEES MAY.
GO INTO THAT THE BEGINNING OF
NEXT YEAR AS WE GET INTO THE
NEXT BUDGET CYCLE- BUDGET SUB
TWO. BUT ON ANOTHER RELATED THIS
MAY BE SIMPLER I KNOW THAT
YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND YOU
MADE SOME COMMENTS IN- WRITTEN
RESPONSES TO THE RULES
COMMITTEE. DELAYS AND
ELECTRICITY HOOK UPS THAT IS THE
OTHER THING I HEAR FROM OTHERS
WHO ARE TRYING TO BUILD
PROJECTS. IN SOME AREAS OF THE
STATE AND THE DELAYS WERE TRYING
TO INCREASE HOUSING- YOU KNOW WE
HAVE THAT DILEMMA- IN THE STATE
THAT CHALLENGE. WHAT ARE SOME OF
THE THINGS YOU'RE FUNDING WHEN
YOU LOOK AT. WHAT THE DELAYS
WHAT'S CAUSING SOME OF THOSE
DELAYS WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE
AN CLEARLY THESE ARE I OWE YOU.
KIND OF ISSUES BUT YOU LOOK AT
THAT WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT
THAT TO IT. ASIDE FROM WHAT YOU
PUT IN WRITING. WELL HE SO. SO
THERE ARE THE NEAR TERM THINGS
THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. AND
THEN THERE IS A LONGER TERM AND
I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING.
WE REALLY NEED. TIMELY HOOK UPS
AND YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S OF.
GENERATION OR ENERGIZING
CUSTOMERS LIKE WE NEED TO BE
ABLE TO GET THE STUFF. HOOKED UP
WITH WHETHER TO CHARGING STATION
OR YOU KNOW OF. THE FORMAL
HOUSING COMPLEX OR A BUSINESS.
AND SO. IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM
BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
THIS OF THE PC DOES HAVE SORT OF
AN INFORMAL TEAM OF STAFF THAT.
WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS YOU KNOW
WILL WILL TRY TO PROBLEM SOLVE
WITH THE UTILITY IN AND- THAT
HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN TIMES
IT'S NOT ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL BUT-
WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT YOU'RE
KIND OF THINKING ABOUT. A PATCH
IN A WAY YOU'RE SORT OF THINKING
THE UTILITY MIGHT SAY WELL. FOR
THIS USED TO BE HOOKED UP.
WITHOUT DISRUPTING THE SYSTEM A
CERTAIN UPGRADE NEEDS TO BE MADE
AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU KNOW TWO
YEARS AND THEN YOU'RE SORT OF
SAYING WELL. IS THERE IS THERE A
WAY YOU CAN SOMETHING
INTERMEDIATE BE DONE- YOU KNOW
SO YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE
TROUBLESHOOTING YOU'RE YOU'RE
TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THE-
ULTIMATELY WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS
WE NEED TO GET TO WHERE-
UPGRADES ARE MADE IN THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM THIS IS
REALLY WORTH. TALKING ABOUT
CUSTOMER HOKA HOOK UPS IN THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. SO THAT THE
- ENERGYSOLUTIONS CAN BE MADE
TIMELY AND SO THE SO THAT GETS
INTO WHAT TAKES A BIT LONGER
WHICH IS LIKE. IN THE GENERAL
RATE CASES HERE JUST JUST MAKING
SURE JUST REALLY PUSHING THEM
ON- WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND
DOESN'T SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
BECAUSE IT'S NOT OKAY FOR-
SOMEBODY TO. BE EXPECTING A
CERTAIN DATE TO BE ABLE TO COME
ONLINE- BE ENERGIZED AND THEN TO
FIND OUT THAT IT'S YOU KNOW A
YEAR LATER OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT AND SO. WE HAVE YOU KNOW.
IN THE NEAR TERM. WE ARE TRYING
TO WORK WITH THE UTILITIES AND
TROUBLESHOOT. WHERE WE CAN OVER
THE LONGER TERM IT'S REALLY
ABOUT USING THE OVERSIGHT. THAT
THE CPUC HAS AND- AND- PUSHING
TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY SO- I
GET YOUR POINT I THINK IT'S-
NGUYEN RAPE CASES ARE BEFORE YOU
FROM INDIVIDUAL I- USE YOU HAVE
THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE AND SAY.
YES YOU ARE NOT MEETING THESE
CRITERIA INJURE OKAY OTHERWISE
YOU'VE GOT OVERSIGHT AND WHAT
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE HOW DO YOU
HOW DO YOU GET TO ADDRESS IT IN
OVERSIGHT WHAT'S YOUR PROCESS
FOR THAT. OKAY SO. THERE IS THE
INFORMAL PROCESS WHICH WHICH WE
TALKED ABOUT RIGHT AND IT'S JUST
. THE COMMUNICATION TYPICALLY
THROUGH STAFF THAT THIS ISN'T
OKAY THIS ISN'T TAKING THIS IS
TAKING TOO LONG. SOMETIMES
SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE SOLUTIONS
THAT COME FROM THE UTILITY
REALLOCATING RESOURCES
INTERNALLY AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER
AVENUE THAT'S IN FORMAL WEAR IF
A PROBLEM BECOMES. ACUTE THE
UTILITY MIGHT CHANGE THE WAY IT
MANAGES OR CHANGE THE WAY IT
APPROACHES OR OR THE STAFF
ALLOCATES TO SOMETHING BUT BUT
WE DO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT
WHEN THEY DO THAT THEY'RE
PROBABLY MOVING PEOPLE FROM
SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO THEY'LL
BE QUICK TO SAY WELL YOU KNOW
OKAY YOU KNOW WE CAN. ADVERTISE
THIS BUT IT'LL HAVE AN IMPACT
OVER HERE ON SOMETHING ELSE AND
SO. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
THAT HAS TO BE. BALANCED AS WELL
YOU KNOW CUSTOMERS CAN RAISE
COMPLAINTS AS WELL WITHIN THE
CPUC PROCESS SO YOU KNOW I I'VE
BEEN THERE SIX MONTHS AYE BUT
YOU KNOW I COULDN'T DESCRIBE
RIGHT NOW HOW THAT WORKS BUT IT
BUT I REALLY THINK IN TERMS OF
SOME OF VERY. IN A- THE L. A. N.
ISSUE LIKE TIMELINESS OF ENERGY
AS A NATION IT IT'S REALLY SOME
OF THESE THINGS THAT THAT I'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THE-
INFORMAL COMMUNICATION IS THE
MESSAGING. FROM BOTH THE STAFF
AND THE COMMISSIONER LEVEL THAT.
THIS HAS TO IMPROVE. IT AND THEN
THE CERTAIN INTERACTIONS LIKE
AROUND A RATE CASE WHERE YOU'RE
LIKE OKAY SHOW ME THAT WHAT
YOU'RE PROPOSING. ADDRESSES THIS
AND- AND HOW AND WHERE OR WHERE
DOESN'T IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS
HELPS OR HURTS BUT IF YOU'RE IN
ONE OF THOSE- RATE CASES YOU
MIGHT SUGGEST THAT THE
LEGISLATURE ASK YOU THIS
QUESTION AS YOU WERE BEING.
CONFIRMED AND WE WANT AN ANSWER
TO- RATE AT ANY RATE- THE LAST
QUESTION I HAVE REALLY IS JUST
TO GET YOUR SENSE GIVEN THAT THE
COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION OF SEVERAL OF
THE BROADBAND- PROGRAMS AND
INITIATIVES AND JUST TO GET-
YOUR TAKE. ALL ALTHOUGH EARLIER
EARLY IN YOUR TENURE. HOW ARE
YOU KEPT APPRISED OF THE
PROGRESS MADE ON ON HOW THAT
PROGRAM IS GOING IT WAS ONE OF
OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS WHEN WE-
RECEIVE THE MONEY AND WE DID NOT
DESIGNED A PROGRAM AND- A HOW DO
YOU FEEL IT'S GOING WHAT ARE
YOUR- EARLY. ASSESSMENTS OF IT
AND- I'VE FOLLOWED THE PROGRAM.
RELATIVELY EASY ON A FAIRLY
REGULAR BASIS SITE WHEN I
STARTED- I GOT A- SERIES OF
BRIEFINGS ON CALENDAR INCLUDING
FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION
IS STARTED WITH. BROADLY THESE
ARE THE THINGS WE'RE DOING
BETTER PRETTY QUICKLY HONED
INTO. THE BEAD PROGRAM AND YOU
KNOW THE EFFORTS THAT THE STAFF
WAS MAKING TO. BE IN A POSITION
TO GET MONEY OUT THE DOOR
QUICKLY AND SO THEY DID KEEP ME
APPRISED OF IT AND- I THINK WE
HAVE. OF MANAGED TO GET TO A
PRETTY GOOD POINT WITHOUT
PROGRAM WHERE- I THINK THE
FUNDING CAN GO IN THE
APPLICATION PERIOD IS OPEN- SO I
DO APPRECIATE THEIR WORK THERE
AND- I. WILL CONTINUE TO STAY
ENGAGED IN AND UNDERSTAND YOU
KNOW WE'VE TALKED MOSTLY ABOUT
ELECTRICITY HERE BUT OF COURSE.
WE HAVE OUR GAS UTILITIES WE
HAVE THE COMMUNICATIONS SIDE WE
HAVE WATER UTILITIES AND SO.
WE'VE THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE
AND SO- STAYING. ON TOP OF ALL
OF THAT IS IT IS IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU I WILL GO TO MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC NOW I WOULD SAY I
THINK THE P. YOU SEE HAS A LOT
ON HIS PLATE YEAH. IT'S A LOT TO
ME ON A TOUR AND A LOT TO FOLLOW
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL
. COMMENTS ON ALL OF THESE
QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK
PEOPLE RIGHT HERE WE'RE GONNA GO
TO PUBLIC- AND WE'LL PUT THE
NUMBER BACK UP ON THE SCREEN IF
WE COULD BECAUSE WE WILL GO TO
THE- TELEK COMMUNICATION-
TELECOM SERVICE IN A MINUTE.
THAT TOLL FREE NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 THE ACCESS CODE IS
ONE SIX ONE EIGHT ZERO FIVE ONE.
THE WILL GO RIGHT HERE NOW IN
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED TO THOSE
WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT.
THAT WOULD BE YOUR NAME YOUR-
HAD- ORGANIZATION IF ANY AND
VERY SHORT COMMENTS BECAUSE I
SEE A LONG LINE. SO NO TWO
SENTENCES WELCOME BETTER CHAIR
JOHN WHITE WITH THE CENTER FOR
ENERGY EFFICIENCY RENEWABLE
TECHNOLOGY WE THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR ITS EXCELLENT
QUESTIONS WE THANK FOR-
COMMISSIONER DOUGLAS FOR PUBLIC
SERVICE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH HER
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH GOOD
TO SEE YOU. WELCOME THANK YOU J.
AS FUNNY JONES WITH THE
INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS-
YEAH AND I THINK IS- JERRY
POINTED OUT EARLIER THIS IS FOR
PERHAPS THE LAST THIRTY FIVE
YEARS ONE OF THE MOST QUALIFIED.
APPOINTEES BEFORE THE SENATE SO
I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU- TO
CUP CONFER THANK YOU THANK YOU
SO MUCH NEXT WITNESS WELCOME.
GOOD AFTERNOON MAKAYLA ELDER ON
BEHALF OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND
ENERGY CONSULTING AS WELL AS OUR
CLIENTS CAL START THE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION COALITION
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
ASSOCIATION AND VALLEY CLEAN AIR
NOW- IN STRONG SUPPORT OF KAREN
DOCSIS CONFIRMATION WE BELIEVE
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA WILL BE
WELL SERVED BY HER ROLE. AS
COMMISSION OF THE CPC THANK YOU
SO MUCH THANK YOU. WELCOME GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE MARKUP PRAYER.
WITH A PREY IN THE KELLY- HERE
ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENT CHARGE
POINT- WE WANT TO FIRST THANK
GOVERNOR. TO SOME FOR APPOINTING
MS DOUGLAS TO THE P. UC I SHE'S.
GOT GREAT FAMILIARITY WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE HOW TO BEST
ADDRESS THAT. YOU CERTAINLY
HEARD IN OUR COMMENTS HERE TODAY
HER FAMILIARITY WITH EVEY
CHARGING AND THE NEEDS THERE
AND- WE COULDN'T BE MORE
THRILLED. AND WE WOULD
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
CONFIRMING HER APPOINTMENT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME
THANK YOU TO MY FANS- ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE TWICE
ASSOCIATION- WE'VE WORKED WITH-
COMMISSION DOUGLAS AND HAVE
MULTIPLE CAPACITIES AND WE'RE
VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER IN
THIS ROLE- IN WHICH OR
INTELLIGENCE- SUPPORT FROM OTHER
ENTITIES- INTERSECT POWER.
CALIFORNIA EFFICIENCY AND
MANAGEMENT COUNCIL GENERAL
MOTORS AND MC THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. WELCOME GOOD. AFTERNOON
ERIN COMES WITH CALIFORNIA I ON
B. OF THE CENTRE FOR SAYS AND-
EDF FOR NEW. EDP RENEWABLES
GOLDEN STATE WHEN HIDE RESTORE
THIS ENERGY INTO SO SHE- AND
SOME ALL IN SUPPORT COMMISSIONER
DOUGLAS IS. THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANKS WEEKS. PATRICK
WELCH FOR THE CALIFORNIA
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION-
SO MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW THE
RATES A PUBLIC GOING TO LET YOU
TELL THESE ARE REGULATED LOCALLY
AND NOT BY THE PC. BUT I NEVER
THE LESS LIKE YOU KNOW THAT WE
HAVE WORKED WITH KAREN FOR MANY
YEARS WE CAN TESTIFY TO HER
CHARACTER WHICH WE THINK IS OF
THE HIGHEST CALIBER. WE WORKED
REALLY CLOSELY WITH HER DURING
THAT TEN DAY HEATWAVE IN
SEPTEMBER. THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
TEN DAY EVENT SHE MAINTAINED A
THOUGHTFUL LEVEL HEADED AND
COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WE URGE
YOU TO SUPPORT OUR CONFIRMATION
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME MANAFORT TEMEN MEMBERS
THAT'S A LOSS ON BEHALF OF THE
AGRICULTURAL ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES
BEFORE ME WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
COMMISSIONER DOUGLAS IS
CONFIRMATION- WE TOO WERE PART
OF THAT TEN DAYS. SLAW THROUGH
THAT HEAT WAVE AND WE- THE
THOUGHTFUL BURKE- IS DOUGLAS HAS
. DONE THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THEIR OWN ISSUES
REGARDING RELIABILITY AND
AFFORDABILITY THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME. GOOD
AFTERNOON AUDRA HARTMAN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA LARGE
ENERGY CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION.
MODE MANY PEOPLE BEFORE ME
ALREADY COMMENTED ON THE ENERGY
CRISIS THAT AND- YOU KNOW THE
ENERGY ISSUES WE HAD IN THE PAST
YEARS AND- MR DOUGLAS'S. CALM
DEMEANOR WE REALLY APPRECIATED
THAT HER EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE AND
HER OPENNESS TO MEET WITH FOLKS
AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT STILL
NEED TO BE RESOLVED. THAT WE IT
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT HER
CONFIRMATION THANK YOU THANK YOU
SO MUCH. WELCOME MADAM CHAIRMAN
HERE AND YOU'RE IN WE WITH YOU
TO WE SHOULD RELY. HERE TODAY ON
THE OF ADVANCE ENERGY IN WITH A
- MISTER LEWIS. HAS BEEN SOMEONE
THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RELY ON
AND WORK WITH ACROSS MULTIPLE
ADMINISTRATIONS INCLUDING SHORT
TERM CRISES. OF LIKE THE ENERGY
SLOG THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN
THE SUMMER TIME AND WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO GET
PREPARED FOR THIS. LONG THESE
LONG HOT WEEKS BUT MORE
IMPORTANTLY. LONGER FACING
ISSUES THAT REQUIRE PLANNING AND
COORDINATION OVER MULTIPLE
YEARS. INCLUDING WITH OUR
NEIGHBORS THOSE ARE VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUES WE'RE GLAD TO
HAVE MR WAS THERE. AND WE
SUPPORT OF CONFIRMATION THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH MYSTICAL
SON NEED TO KNOW OF SLOG. IS THE
TECHNICAL TERM. WELL MAN MEMBERS
DAY KIM I'M ONE OF THE PARTNERS
ECKELS CLEANING. WERE THAT OF
THE WEST AND SOLAR PARK THE
LARGEST RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT
IN. CALIFORNIA AND- WE ARE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF. MR THIS IS
CONFIRMATION- SHE HAS BEEN
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING PARTNER IN
NOT ONLY SUPPORTING RENEWABLE
ENERGY IN CALIFORNIA BUT ALSO-
REALLY RECOGNIZING AT THE VERY
EARLY ONSET OF THE R. P. S. THE
IMPORTANCE OF ARNOLD JUSTICE.
ISSUES AND BRINGING COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR TO THE TABLE AND MAKING
SURE THAT THEY ARE WELL
REPRESENTED IN THESE POLICY
DISCUSSIONS SO AGAIN THANK YOU
FOR- YEAH SUPPORTING A
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OKAY- SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN
LINE FOR SUPPORT LET ME SEE IF
THERE'S ANYONE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED THAT WISHES TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. IN
OPPOSITION. OKAY I'M GONNA
WELCOME NOW OUR MODERATOR WHO
HELPS US EVERY- HEARING. TO THIS
AND ASK IF YOU WOULD T. PEOPLE
UP TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION AND I WILL NEED
PEOPLE WHO SPEAK TO GIVE ME
THEIR NAME THEIR ORGANIZATION IF
ANY. AND JUST IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION WELCOME MODERATOR.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME PRESS. ONE
ZERO. THEN WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE
PERSON WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK JUST A MOMENT.
ANOTHER MOMENT PLACE. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO LINE FIFTY EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. HELLO
THIS IS PETER MILLER
REPRESENTING THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL AND
I'M IN SUPPORT OF DOMINATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. OTHER
WITNESSES MISTER MODERATOR.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WE'LL BE BACK WITH
YOU SHORTLY. LET ME COME BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES AND ASK IF I CAN
HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU-
CENTERS SMALLWOOD CUEVAS WE HAVE
A MOTION MADAM SECRETARY WE
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL LAYARD A
CHOI BOGUE BY A TRAVEL GUIDE
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS HI SMOKED
CRITICIZED GROWTH ATKINS I
RECONCILED CALL WE WILL PUT THIS
ON CALL FOR MY TWO COLLEAGUES
WHO WHO WILL BE BACK AND WITH
OUR- CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND WE
WILL- YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE
THREE VOTES NEEDED SO WE WILL
GET THE OTHERS AND THEN MOVE
THIS ON TO THE FULL SENATE FOR
CONFIRMATION THANK YOU THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
WE ARE JUST GOING TO TAKE A FEW
MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL SHIFT
GEARS AND BE RIGHT BACK. AND
WITH.
AND I WILL JUST LET YOU KNOW I
NOW HAVE MEMBERS WHO WERE WHO
ARE REALLY ROTATING BETWEEN
COMMITTEES SO- TO YOU I
APOLOGIZE AND THE GOOD NEWS IS
THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST RODEO-
THE THANK YOU IT'S GOOD TO SEE
YOU AGAIN LET ME- FOR THE RECORD
SAY THAT WE WILL GO TO OUR NEXT
APPOINTEE REQUIRED TO APPEAR AND
THIS IS FOR THE A MEMBER OF THE
INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATING
GOVERNING OPERATOR GOVERNING
BOARD. ANGELINA ELEVATOR DELETE
THE LEAD TO FIVE YOU KNOW IT'S
THE ACCENT WE- EVEN WORSEN
YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE THE RULES
COMMITTEE BEFORE AND IT'S GOOD
TO SEE YOU AGAIN LET ME WELCOME
YOU AND OFFER TO HAVE YOU DO
OPENING COMMENTS FEEL FREE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE ANYONE YOU WOULD
LIKE. TO AN OPENING COMMENTS AND
THEN WE'LL GO RIGHT TO OUR
MEMBER FOR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS BEFORE SHE HAS TO RUN
TO- TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE WELCOME
THAT NUMBER THANK YOU CHAIR
ATKINS AT THE END AND THANK YOU
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
PRESENT AND NOT PRESENT IN
COMING INTO THE NEAR FUTURE
HOPEFULLY AS WELL TOO. I'M VERY
HAPPY TO BE HERE AGAIN VERY
EXCITED AND OF COURSE I WOULDN'T
BE HERE IF I WASN'T SUPPORTED BY
THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE
SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE AND
HONORED THAT I HAVE ANOTHER
CHANCE TO SERVE AND CONTINUE THE
WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN
THE ENERGY TRANSITION ANY
BUILDING THE CHI SO WELL THE ART
CALIFORNIA IS SO TO BECOME A
GLOBAL LEADER IN INTEGRATING
RENEWABLES AND CERTAINLY A
SHINING EXAMPLE. OF EXCELLENCE.
SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE
BOARD OF GOVERNORS ALL MY
COLLEAGUES WHO WE WORK WITH VERY
CLOSELY. ALSO THE ENERGY
IMBALANCE GOVERNING BODY WHO ARE
ALSO PARTNERS WITH US IN A VERY
ELEGANT ON GOVERNANCE SOLUTION.
THAT WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE
WORKING WITH AND BUILDING OUR
WEST WIDE RELATIONSHIPS. I WANT
TO CHECK A THANK THE EXCELLENT I
STILL STAFF ALL THE AGENCIES
THAT WE WORK WITH KAREN IS A
TERRIFIC EXAMPLE OF OUR AGENCY
COLLEAGUES THAT WOULD
COLLABORATE WITH ON A DAILY
BASIS. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL
MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY COOL
WATCHING RIGHT NOW MY PARENTS
ARE WATCHING MY BROTHER IS
WATCHING MY SON WHO IS. IN THE
MATH CAMPUS HOPEFULLY WATCHING-
BUT MOST OF ALL I REALLY WANT TO
THANK MY DAD IS. ISABELLA IS A
TROOPER SHE HAS BEEN WITH ME AT
EVERY CONFIRMATION SINCE SHE WAS
SIX. ACTUALLY WHEN SHE WAS SIX
SHE CAME UP AND WALKED OVER AND
SAT WITH ME AT THE TABLE TO AND
WAS VERY GOOD AT LISTENING. AND
WE OBVIOUSLY MADE AN IMPACT ON
HER BECAUSE SHE DECLARE THAT
THAT POINT IN TIME. THAT THIS IS
THE WAY SHE WANTED TO DO SHE WAS
GOING TO GOING TO THE ENERGY
FIELD AND SHE WAS GOING TO BE
MANAGING CALIFORNIA'S GRID. SHE
DID- AN INTERNSHIP FOR THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION AND
THEN DECIDED. YES SACRAMENTO IS
THE CENTER OF GRAVITY AND
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS YOU
SACRAMENTO IN THE WORLD IS
WATCHING US SO MAYBE ONE DAY I
WILL BE CHAIR OF THE CC. AND NOW
SHE IS. A FRESHMAN WHILE GOING
INTO HIS SECOND YEAR AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN
DIEGO- YOU SEE IS DEEP YES- AND
SHE LOVES SURFING SHE WAS
CAPTAIN OF THE SURF TEAM BUT
MORE IMPORTANTLY SHE'S IN THE
IN. I KNOW ENGINEERING
DEPARTMENT STUDYING CHEMICAL
ENGINEERING AND MATERIALS
SCIENCE BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO
BUILD THE TECHNOLOGIES OF THE
FUTURE SO. SUPER PROUD THAT ALL
OF US COLLECTIVELY HAVE AN
IMPACT ON THE FUTURE GENERATION
AS WELL- AS YOU'LL PROBABLY KNOW
I'VE BEEN IN THE AYE SO SINCE
TWENTY ELEVEN MY CAREER HAS BEEN
FOCUSED ON ENERGY RIGHT FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING. I GREW UP IN
EAST AFRICA TANZANIA WITH NO
ELECTRICITY SO RENEWABLE ENERGY
WAS KIND OF THE EASIEST RESOURCE
TO LEARN FROM. WHERE WE HAD
PEOPLE COME IN AND INSTALL SOLAR
PANELS ON OUR MISSIONARY SCHOOL
AND LO AND BEHOLD ALL OF A
SUDDEN WE HAD LIGHTS WE HAD
WATER WHICH WOULD TWO THINGS
THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL
OF US. AND MARK WAS SUPER
EXCITING AND THEN OF COURSE.
COMING TO THE UNITED STATES AS
THE FIRST EASTERN EUROPEAN TO
STUDY FULL TIME LAW- HERE I WAS
DEDICATED TO LEARNING ABOUT
ENERGY. AND MAKING SURE THAT I
COULD BE A PART OF IT AND A G.
TRANSITION THAT HAS AN IMPACT
NOT ONLY HERE IN THE LOCAL LEVEL
BUT HAS. GLOBAL REVERBERATIONS
AS WELL. WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE
SO INTERESTING VEHICLES THE ISO
IS THAT THE CENTER OF AN ENERGY
TRANSITION THE AYE SO IS NOT A
POLICY MAKER BUT AS A POLICY
MAKER AND THE I SÐNG ABLES. ALL
OF US TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT
POLICY GOALS AND REACH THEM IN
THE BEST THE MOST OPTIMIZED
FASHION. SO IT'S BEEN AN
INCREDIBLE HONOR TO BE ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE HERE SINCE TWENTY
ELEVEN AND SEE THIS TRANSITION
AND BE A PART OF IT. AND SEE THE
EYES SO EVOLVE FROM A SMALL
REGIONAL ENTITY TO A GLOBAL
LEADER THAT NOW RUNS A MARKET.
THAT COVERS OVER 80% OF THE
GREAT WEST OUT TWENTY FIVE OF
THE THIRTY NINE BALANCING
AUTHORITIES. AND WE HAVE BROUGHT
IN BENEFITS IN TERMS OF TANGIBLE
FINANCIAL BENEFITS TO THE REGION
IN TERMS OF FOUR BILLION DOLLARS
SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN. ONE POINT
THREE BILLION DOLLARS IN
CALIFORNIA FOR CALIFORNIA
RATEPAYERS AND THAT IS A HUGE
BENEFIT THAT WE SEE. AND WE
COUNTING ON BEING ABLE TO
CONTINUE AS WE INVOLVED. THE
MARKET INTO THE DAY I HAD MORE
COULD AS WELL. IN TERMS INTO.
THE NEW. WE DONE. WELL AND WE
SHOULD BE HAPPY PROUD IS A STATE
BECAUSE WE ARE THE LEADER AS I
SAID GLOBALLY AND ONE OF THE-
TOP FIFTEEN- I ESOS WORLDWIDE.
TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE AS MANY
RENEWABLES AND CERTAINLY ARE
LEADING THE WAY. SO WE'RE IN
TWENTY ELEVEN WHEN I STARTED WE
HAD ONLY SIX HUNDRED MEGAWATTS
OF SOLAR AT ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS OF WIND FAST FORWARD
TO TODAY. WE HAVE SIXTEEN
THOUSAND MEGAWATTS OF SOLAR AND
IF WE ADD BEHIND THE METER SOLAR
AS WELL THAT'S OVER TWENTY FIVE
THOUSAND MEGAWATTS- WE HAVE
SIXTEEN THOUSAND MEGAWATTS OF
WIND. AND WE HAVE MOST
IMPORTANTLY FIVE THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS OF STORAGE WHICH WE
INSTALLED SINCE TWENTY TWENTY
AND BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER WE
HOPE TO BE AT SIXTY EIGHT
HUNDRED SO THAT IS ST CREDIBLY
ADAM. POWERFUL AS WELL- ANOTHER
BECAUSE I'M ALSO THE FOUNDER OF
RENEWABLES ONE HUNDRED POLICY
INSTITUTE SO HAVING BEEN
DEDICATED FOR MY WHOLE CAREER
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN
SAFELY INTEGRATE AND OPERATE A
GRADE. THAT IS RELIABLE AND
RESILIENT BECAUSE RELIABILITY
AND RESILIENCY OF COURSE IS MOST
IMPORTANT- BUT WE CAN OPERATE
AGREED WITH A 100% RENEWABLE
ENERGY. AND PROUD AND HAPPY TO
SAY THAT WE ACHIEVE THIS GOAL
THIS YEAR. I'M NOT DOCTOR ARE
YOU KNOW FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY MINUTES AND WE GET BETTER
EVERY DAY THIS WEEKEND WE WERE
AT 98% RENEWABLES ON THE GRID
WHICH WAS VERY EXCITING. TO THEY
WERE AT 68% THREE DOUBLES ON THE
GRANT- YOU CAN WATCH EVERYTHING
IN REAL TIME I'M OBSESSING WITH
THE AYE SO AFTER TODAY SO I
KNOW. WHAT WE'RE GENERATING
ABOUT THE PRICES OUT RENEWABLES.
BUT SUFFICE TO SAY WE WILL HAVE
TO VOTE GOALS THE ISSUE IN THE
CHALLENGE ON THE OPPORTUNITIES
OF COURSE ARE ENSURING THAT WE
CAN DO THIS TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.
THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE DAYS A
YEAR EVERY DAY- THEN EVERY HOUR
OF EVERY DAY. SO THE GREATEST.
WOULD COME. THAT WE'RE GOING TO
ABLE TO A GOOD SUMMER THE
SUMMER. AROUND WE LOOK FORWARD
GOING TO IMPROVE. AND RELY. FOR
THE FUTURE AS WAY AS WELL OUR-
WE'RE DEDICATED TO MEETING
CALIFORNIA'S POLICY CLIMATE
GOALS. AND KNOW THAT WE CAN
ENABLE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN- WE
DON'T HAVE. THEM A LOT OF VERY
HARD WORK AHEAD OF US THAT WE
CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THE SUCCESS. BUT
OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE
TO INTEGRATE OVER SEVEN THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS OF CARBON FREE
RESOURCES EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO
MEET THE POLICY GOALS- AND WE
KNOW WE CAN DO IT. AND WE CAN
CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT FUTURE BY
BRINGING IN A MORE DIVERSIFIED
PORTFOLIO BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED
LESSONS. YES WE VERY SOLAR
CENTRIC AND WE'RE BLESSED WITH
GREAT SOLAR RESOURCES. BUT WE DO
HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IN
OPERATING THE GRIN WHEN THE SUN
IS NOT SHINING SO HAVING
DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF MORE HYDRO
IN TERMS OF MORE WIND IN TERMS
OF MORE GEOTHERMAL. IN TERMS OF
MORE STORAGE ENVIRONMENT
VARIABLE STORAGE TO NOT JUST
SHORT TERM BATTERIES- BUT ALSO
THE LONGER TERM COMPRESSED AIR.
PUMPED HYDRO AND OTHER
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT
TO ALLOW US TO BALANCE THE
GRANTED OPERATE. AND INTEGRATE
MORE VALUABLE RESOURCES- WE ARE
VERY LUCKY AND HAPPY TO BE ABLE
TO OPERATE THE ENERGY IMBALANCE
MARKET THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL
FOR US AND THAT HAS BROUGHT A
LOT OF BENEFITS AS WELL. I'M AND
I CALLED OUT HORIZONTAL
INTEGRATION THE WHITE OF THE
FOOTPRINT THE MORE WE CAN
INTEGRATE WITH OTHER
TECHNOLOGIES IN THE MORE WE CAN
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TIME
DIFFERENCES IN DIFFERENT
RESOURCES COMING INTO
CALIFORNIA. BUT ALSO VERTICAL
INTEGRATION IS IMPORTANT HAVING
THE VISIBILITY AND THE INTERPLAY
WITH BEHIND THE METER
TECHNOLOGIES THROUGH THE
UTILITIES THROUGH THE LOAD
SERVING ENTITIES. HOW WILL THE
CHARGING STATIONS AFFECT US HOW
WILL DO CARAMELIZATION AFFECT US
AS WE TRANSITION AWAY FROM GAS
AND WE USE MORE ELECTRICITY HOW
DO WE DO THAT. RELIABLY
SUSTAINABLY AND- ALLAM CITED A
GROVE AND I WERE TALKING.
YESTERDAY THAT THE ENERGY
REALITY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT
TURNED OUT. NAY DEGREE RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE'VE ALL MORE. GENERATE
AND IT WAS. THAT AS YOU HAD. AS
YOU HAD LOW GROWING USE OF
ELECTRICITY GROW GENERATORS
WOULD RAMP UP IN THE TRADITIONAL
SYSTEM. NOW WITH THE VARIABLE
RESOURCES WHICH ARE YES THEIR
VALUABLE BUT HIGHLY RELIABLE
VERY PREDICTABLE WE KNOW THE SUN
WILL SHINE WITH ALL THE WIND
WILL SHIP WILL BLOW. AND WE KNOW
THAT WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES NOT
AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES SO HOW DO
WE SHIFT LOAD TO FOLLOW THE
AVAILABILITY OF THE RESOURCES.
AND THOSE OF MARKET SIGNALS THAT
NEED TO BE SENT SO THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON
A VERY EXCITED TO COLLABORATE
WITH THE CC ON THE PC. TO ENSURE
THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE
ALIGNED- WE ALSO HAVE TO
DIVERSIFY EVEN MORE BECAUSE WE
NEED TO USE ELECTRICITY TO
DECARBONISE NOT JUST THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR BUT THE
BUILDING SECTOR THE AGRICULTURAL
SECTOR IN INDUSTRY. SO THE
INTERPLAY OF ADDITIONAL
ELECTRICITY GENERATION AND THAT
ADDITIONAL ELECTRICITY USE IS
VERY VERY IMPORTANT. I ALSO
WANTED TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON
THE AYE SO BECAUSE THE AYE SO AS
AN AGENCY HAS EVOLVED QUITE A
BIT WE- ACTUALLY ARE VERY.
HIGHLY TECHNICAL. AND A VERY-
DEDICATED ORGANIZATION TO.
EXCELLENCE AND IMPROVEMENT AND
FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE HAVE NOW
BROUGHT INTO DIVERSITY AND
EQUITY EXPERT- AND THAT'LL BE
OFFICIAL POSITION AT THE ISL. WE
ALSO HAVE A BOARD THAT FOR THE
LONGEST TIME I WAS THE ONLY
WOMAN ON IT. THAT AND- WE NOW
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A
MAJORITY OF WOMEN. AND INDEED
THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR NOW
FOR THE FIRST TIME WOMEN BECAUSE
WE'VE INSTITUTED GOVERNANCE
CHANGES AS WELL TO REFLECT THE
NEEDS FOR MORE DIVERSITY AND
DEPTH OF- INSURING THAT WE
REFLECT THAT. WHAT IS IN OUR
COMMUNITY WE ALSO HAVE THE
DEPARTMENT OF MARKET MONITORING
THAT WAS CREATED AS A RESULT OF
FARC REQUESTING THAT THE IDEA SO
DO THAT AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO
HAVE CHAIRED THAT COMMITTEE.
OVER THE YEARS OF ESTABLISHING
IT ESTABLISHING THE OVERSIGHT.
DIRECTLY REPORTING TO THE BOARD
AND MAKE INSURE THE THEY HAVE
UPS INTO. AND ARE ABLE TO DO
THAT IN MONETARY THE MARK AND
PROVIDING. OF COURSE BY. AND IN
TO OUR IS BECAUSE THE WEST UNION
THE QUITE A BIT- WE'RE FOCUSED
ON SECURITY OF COURSE
RELIABILITY AND RESILIENCY CYBER
SECURITY IS A BIGGER SHE'LL AND
AS I POINTED OUT- HAVING THE
ABILITY TO DO RISK ASSESSMENT
EMERGENCY PLANNING. PERSONNEL
TRAINING- AND REGULAR CYBER
SECURITY AUDITS IS VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US WE ACTUALLY
HAVE A LITTLE FARADAY CAGE
AROUND. HIS CELL TO MAKE SURE
THAT CYBER SECURITY AND THAT WE
OPERATE IN A RELIABLE AND
RESILIENT- WE STAND READY TO
MEET THE OPPORTUNITIES AND
CHALLENGES AS WE BUILD THIS NEW
GRADE TOGETHER AND AS WE ENABLE
CALIFORNIA TO MEET AT SCHOOLS
AND THE MOST. OPTIMIZED WAY THE
US ALWAYS ALL ABOUT OPTIMIZING
OPTIONALITY ISN'T MAKING SURE
THAT WE HAVE THE HIGHEST VALUE
LOWEST COST SERVICE FOR ALL OF
OUR CURRENT CUSTOMERS. WE KNOW
THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE GREAT
IS THAT VERSIFI DEMOCRATIZED
DIGITIZED HIGHLY TO CARBONIZED
AND WE STAND READY TO WORK AND
BUILD IT TOGETHER WITH YOU SO
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
THANK YOU. THAT WAS OF
INCREDIBLY SUBSTANTIVE AND I'M
SURE IT ANSWERED MANY QUESTIONS
OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE. I
FEEL ACTUALLY VERY FORTUNATE
BECAUSE TYPICALLY I HAVE TO
REDUCE MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE MY
COLLEAGUES. ASK MORE QUESTIONS.
DID I SAY SOMETHING THAT. HI YOU
IS ALMOST ONE OF THE MOST OF
TIMES OF THE YEAR BECAUSE-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ASSEMBLIES HAVE
COMMITTEES. US SENATE COMMITTEES
ARE UNDER WAY N. I AT LEAST TO
THESE MEMBERS SERVE ON
COMMITTEES AT OUR MEETING AT THE
SAME TIME. AND I KNOW THAT
SENATOR LAYERED HAD BILLS HE HAD
TO PRESENT AS DID BOTH OF MY
OTHER COLLEAGUES SO- I PRESENTED
ALL MY BILLS. SO COURSE THEY
ALWAYS LET ME TAKE THE MY BILLS
WHENEVER I WANT SO I HAVE.
VANTAGE MY COLLEAGUES NOT SO
MUCH BUT I DO HAVE. SOME
QUESTIONS AND- IT AS MY
COLLEAGUES COME BACK LET ME JUST
ASK YOU DID YOU GET TO MEET WITH
MY OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES- IN
THIS WEEK WHICH HAS BEEN A BUSY
WEEK MY DAD ABOUT THE SON OF A
LAYERED AND I MET WITH SENATOR
GROW. A WONDERFUL OKAY HE HAD
CONVERSATIONS YES THERE THAT I
MET WITH STAFF FOR THE WORLD.
THAT'S HELPFUL- AND OF COURSE WE
GET AN EXTENSIVE A PACKET OF
INFORMATION THAT YOU FILLED OUT
WHICH IS VERY SUBSTANTIVE-
ALWAYS. AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE
LOOK AT- IT CAL AYE SO THE
ENERGY COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION YOU
PROBABLY HAVE TO WRITE A. BOOK
FOR US AND WE APPRECIATE- WE
ENJOY THE- I SAY THAT ENJOY THE
WORK. AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE
IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE
IT'S GRATIFYING TO BE IN THIS
FIELD I E. YOU SEE THAT IN THE
MULTIPLE TIMES THAT WE'VE HAD
THE OPPORTUNITY TO. HI HAVE YOU
BEFORE SO LET ME ASK- WHICH YOU
YOU STARTED IN THE VERY
BEGINNING OF YOUR COMMENTS. THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE ENERGY
COMMISSION CAL I SO AND THE P.
YOU SEE. A THREE INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT ENTITIES- THAT WE RELY
ON HOW HAS THAT IN THE TIME THAT
YOU HAVE BEEN ON- CAL AYE SO.
HOW IS THAT IMPROVED HAVE YOU
SEEN A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.
GIVEN YOU KNOW ALL THE THINGS
THAT WE ARE UP AGAINST IN TERMS
OF OUR CLIMATE GOALS. IN OUR OUR
ENERGY CHALLENGES WOULD YOU
COMMENT ON THAT A BIT YES I'VE
SEEN INCREDIBLE IMPROVEMENTS
BECAUSE YOU KNOW CALIFORNIA'S
ENERGY. ENVIRONMENT ECOSYSTEM IS
GOVERNED BY A PATCHWORK OF
AGENCIES AND WE ALL HAVE TO WORK
TOGETHER AND COORDINATE. AND
BECAUSE OF FILE- THE ISSUES THAT
WE'VE HAD IN TERMS OF
INTEGRATING MORE RENEWABLES
LEARNING TO DEAL WITH THE
BHAKKAR OF LEARNING TO STACK
RESOURCES IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE
CAN MEET THOSE. VERY INTERESTING
OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES- TOGETHER
WE'VE HAD TO WORK MUCH MORE
CLOSELY AND BE MUCH MORE ALIGNED
TO ANTICIPATE. AND TRY TO
FORESEE THE UNFORESEEABLE
WHETHER IT'S A HE DEFEND WHETHER
IT'S FIVE YEARS WHETHER IT'S THE
CHANGING ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF
POWER PLANTS BEING
DECOMMISSIONED OR SHUT DOWN-
INCREASINGLY IN IN RENEWABLES
DECREASE IN IN COAL FIRED POWER
PLANTS FOR SHORE WEST WIDE. AND
SOME OF THE ONCE THROUGH COOLING
SO- THE CPUC THROUGH THE
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN PLANS
FOR RESOURCES THE CDC OF COURSE
LOOKS AT HOW DEMAND WILL CHANGE
AND HOW DEMAND FOR ELECTRICITY
AND OTHER RESOURCES WILL. WILL
INCREASE AND WE COLLABORATE
TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE
TRANSMISSION PLANS IN
TRANSMISSION PLANNING REFLECTS
THE RESOURCE NEEDS AND REFLECT
THE DEMAND AS WELL WITH THE CDC
AND THE PSC. SO DOES THAT MEAN
STAFF WORKS CLOSELY TOGETHER HOW
OFTEN DO COMMISSIONERS AND HOW
OFTEN DO YOU COMMUNICATE WITH
SAY. MISTER DOUGLAS OR OR
SOMEONE AT THE ENERGY COMMISSION
IS THAT DIRECTORS AT STAFF TO
STAFF AND IT'S MOSTLY STAFF TO
STAFF BUT THE RELATIONSHIP SO
THERE IN TERMS OF THE
COMMISSIONERS AS WELL I.
PERSONALLY WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA PSC COMMISSIONERS WE
KNOW EACH OTHER WE DON'T TALK TO
EACH OTHER. WITH WE ARE A PART
TIME BORING SO WE NOT A FULL
TIME OR THAT THE AYE SO IT'S
MOSTLY STAFF DRIVEN BUT
CERTAINLY WE DO ON A COMMISSION
AND THE BOARD LEVEL TALK ABOUT
THESE ISSUES CONSTANTLY. I'M
TRYING TO COLLABORATE AND
ANTICIPATE BECAUSE IT IS A JOINT
EFFORT WE ALSO WORK WITH THE A.
R. V. WE WORK WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES.
AND TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT-
ALL ISSUES COVERED AND WE CAN
MEET. THE CHANGING NEEDS OF THE
GRANT AND MEET THE POLICY
OBJECTIVES OF OUR STATE. THANK
YOU. LET ME ASK QUICKLY YOU
MENTIONED CYBERSECURITY HAVE
HAVE YOU BEEN IN A SITUATION
WHERE THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT
CYBER SECURITY. I KNOW WE GET
ATTACKED THOUSANDS OF TIMES
EVERY DAY WE GET BRIEFINGS
REGULARLY. ON CYBER SECURITY
ACTUALLY. WE IN. DC AT THE ARE
OF MAY MEETINGS WITH FORK. TO
ANOTHER CELLS THIS IS A PRIME
ISSUE ON EVERY. MY AFTER THE
COLONIAL PIPE- TO BUCKLE WE
DON'T WANT TO HOW
VULNERABILITIES ON THE- ON THE
TRANSMISSION SIDE ALL OF US ARE
VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WE ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT. PHYSICAL
SECURITY OF SOME OF THE
SUBSTATIONS AS WELL- AND I KNOW
THAT FORK ACTUALLY FOR THE FIRST
TIME IS ALSO INSTITUTING A CYBER
SECURITY OFFICE- THEY WANTED TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE
SECURITY CLEARANCES NECESSARY TO
GET THE BRIEFINGS BUT- I
YOURSELVES. AND ENERGY
INFRASTRUCTURE IS A PRIME
TARGET. FOR CYBER SECURITY AND I
KNOW THAT WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO
WORK WITH EXPORTS TO STAY AHEAD
OF THE THREATS AND ENSURE THAT
WE'VE GOT. THE SYSTEM WELL
PROTECTED. OKAY THANK YOU LET ME
BECAUSE I INTEND TO GO NO WHERE
HIS CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE LET
ME JUST ASK- SENATOR JOEL BOW
BEFORE I KNOW YOU ARE STILL
COMING AND GOING. DO YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO
ASK. YES MA'AM- YES PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MA'AM TERROR AND SO MY
QUESTION. HAS TO DO WITH- THERE
WILL. OF WHERE WE ARE. I MEAN
I'M NOT SURE IF EIGHT IF THE
QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED I UP. IF
IT HAS YOU CAN SAY WE'VE ALREADY
INTERESTED BUT I COULDN'T GET
THAT LETTER- GET THE INFORMATION
AFTERWARDS. SO BASED ON YOUR
EXPERIENCE ON THE BOARD THUS FAR
- I HAVE TO ASK ARE WE PREPARED
FOR THE SUMMER. OR MID JULY THIS
SUMMER YES. YEAH OKAY SO WE ARE
GOOD I KNOW MANY PEOPLE ARE.
REALLY CONCERNED YEAH BUT WE'RE
WE'VE BEEN IN IT WE WERE GOING
AB SO HAVING SAID THAT. SO YOU
SAY WE HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY
RESERVES RESERVING YES- TO COVER
THE DESERT HEATWAVES WILDFIRES
YOUR VIEW WHAT ARE THE KEY
CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW OF THE
STATE IS FACING. IN MAINTAINING
THE GRID RELIABILITY IN THE
FUTURE. AS WELL AS A
PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THE
INCREASING SHARE OF RENEWABLES
ON THE GRID YES AND THAT'S NOT
THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY RIGHT I
LIKE TO THINK INTERNET THING IN
TERMS OF OPPORTUNITIES NOT SO
MUCH CHALLENGES- AS WE CONTINUE
TO BEAT OUT TWENTY FORTY FIVE
GOLD WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A
CARBON FREE CALIFORNIA.
OPERATING IN ALL SECTORS OF THE
ECONOMY AND THIS IS THE FOURTH
LARGEST ECONOMY OF THE WORLD THE
CARBONIZED WE ARE ON A SCHEDULE.
TO INTEGRATE MORE AND MORE
RENEWABLES LIKE I SAID SEVEN
THOUSAND MEGAWATTS EVERY YEAR SO
TO MEET OUR POLICY GOALS WE
STILL EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ACHIEVED
A LOT IN IN HOW EXPLAIN HOW MUCH
WE HAVE COME AND WHAT A LONG WAY
WITH COMMON HOW WE ARE A GLOBAL
LEADER. IN INTEGRATING
RENEWABLES WE STILL HAVE TO
INTEGRATE SEVENTEEN THOUSAND
GIGAWATTS OF SEVENTEEN GIGAWATTS
OF SOLAR. THREE POINT FIVE
GIGAWATTS OF WIND IN ST ONE
GIGAWATT OF GEOTHERMAL FOUR
POINT FIVE GIGAWATTS OF OUT OF
STATE WIND. THREE GIGAWATTS OF
OFFSHORE WIND AND ACETYLATED
WOULD LOVE THAT AND AN
ADDITIONAL FIVE. GIGAWATTS OF
OFFSHORE WIND DOWN THE LINE AS
WELL- TO MEET OUR GOALS AND
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
CAN OPERATE A GRADE THAT IS
INCREASINGLY RENEWABLE AND EVEN
THOUGH WE'VE REACHED A 100%
RENEWABLES ON THE GRID. AND
INDEED EVEN THIS WEEKEND WE WENT
98% RENEWABLES. WE HAVEN'T DONE
A TWENTY FOUR SEVEN THREE
HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE DAYS A YEAR
EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY. SO OUR
BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY IS IN
DECARBONISING BOUNCE BACK OFF
FOSSIL ENERGY THAT WE STILL RELY
ON TO OPERATE THE GRANT. WHICH
IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS AND
LESS EVERY YEAR- BUT WE STILL
HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF
WHAT WE CAN DO IT TWENTY FOUR
SEVEN SO WE'VE GOT TO WORK
TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT. WE IS
THE I SO CAN BUILD A
TRANSMISSION. THAT'S NECESSARY
TO BRING THE RESOURCES ON
ONLINE. AND BRING THE- IS THE
ONLY BOTH COMBINATION OF REAL
CHEN. WITH SOLAR WITH WITH WITH
HYDRA WHICH YOU. THAT IS TIED.
AND THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE POWER
WHEN THE SUN IS OUT BECAUSE
THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE YET
AND DOWN SO THAT WE CAN RAMP UP
WE'VE GOT. A FLEXIBLE NEED FOR
FLEXIBLE RAMPING OF US SEVENTEEN
THOUSAND MEGAWATTS- AS THE SUN
GOES DOWN EVERY DAY THAT'S THE
DOCKER OF AND THE AND THE DARK
KERR OF- GROWTH AT THE END OF
THE DAY SO FLEXIBLE REAP SOURCES
THAT CAN RAMP UP QUICKLY. AND
THAT CAN SUSTAIN THAT EVENING
PEOPLE FOUR FIVE HOURS- WHETHER
ITS BATTERIES WITH THIS FLY
WHEELS WITH ITS COMPRESSED AIR
WITH ITS PUMPED HYDRO DAMS
SEASONAL STORAGE OF COURSE IS
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE
TO LOOK AT. WELL WE HAVE MULTI
DAYS OF NO SON OR NO WIND HOW WE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO RUN A SYSTEM
IF IT'S ONLY DEPENDENT ON
BATTERIES AND NOT HOW THE
DIVERSE TECHNOLOGIES FOR STORAGE
AS WELL SO. IT'S INCREDIBLY
INTERESTING ABSOLUTELY
FASCINATING A LOT OF FUN TO LOOK
AT BUT- VERY VERY SERIOUS
BECAUSE- IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL.
THE WORLD IS LOOKING AT
CALIFORNIA. AND YOU KNOW WHERE I
GREW UP IN EAST AFRICA-
TANZANIA. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM
TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE
TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS WE'VE
COME UP WITH. SO THEY DON'T MAKE
THE MISTAKES OF BUILDING A GRID-
THAT THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON ALL
OF US TWO POINT FIVE BILLION
PEOPLE HAVE NO ACCESS TO
ELECTRICITY THERE ON THE
SUNBELT. I BELIEVE THAT AS THE
FOURTH LARGEST ECONOMY YOU ALSO
HAVE A GLOBAL RESPONSIBILITY TO
MAKE SURE THAT. WE DECARBONISE
CALIFORNIA WOULD COMPROMISE THE
. UNITED STATES WOULD CARBONIZED
THE WORLD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR- FOR YOUR QUESTION IF
YOU'RE- WELCOME. I A FEELING
SOME OF US. DON'T KNOW WITH
THEY'RE COMING GOING. I I'VE X.
HOW. I'VE EXPLAINED HOW
CHALLENGING THIS PERIOD IS.
SENATOR SMALLWOOD THIS DO YOU
HAVE A QUESTION WELL I REALLY
THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND I
REALLY APPRECIATED THAT THE
ANSWER ABOUT OUR WHICH
GENERATIVE HERE IN CALIFORNIA
FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD- I
UNDERSTAND HARD OF A RECENTLY
COMPLETED TWENTY YEAR. AYE SO
TRANCE AS MISSION OUTLOOK REALLY
WAS LOOKING AT ADDRESSING THE
CAPACITY NEEDED FOR THE
INTERCONNECTION OF RENEWABLES-
IN THE FORTYISH TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS WERE RECOMMENDED. TO
REALLY PUSH OUR CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS FORWARD. AND I WANTED TO
GET CLARITY ON THE I ESOS RULE
WITH IN THESE PROJECTS. AND HOW
IS IDEA. I A SO INSURING THAT
CLEAN CAPACITY IS BEING BUILT
OUT- I'M ALSO YOU KNOW. BEEN A
LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT REAL
REGIONALIZATION AND- AS PART OF
BUILDING OUT OUR SYSTEM AND- SO
I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS WHAT YOU
SEE THE I ESOS ROLE IS AN- IN
PARTICULAR. THE CAPACITY BUILD
OUT- QUESTION AND THEN AS PART
OF THAT MAYBE YOU COULD TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROLE AND I
ALWAYS RESISTANT IN EVERY
HEARING RIGHT AT THIS
INTERSECTION OF- OF RACIAL
EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL-
JUSTICE AND ECONOMIC- EQUITIES
AS WELL. JUST. WELL INVOLVED IN
ANY SORT OF. GUIDELINES
DEVELOPMENT OF A WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT- PRINCIPLES THAT
HELP US ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW AS
CALIFORNIA GOES THAT WE ALSO
HAVE OUR MOST VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES GOING ALONG WITH IT.
WELL WILL ABSOLUTELY
CALIFORNIA'S SO WE RESPONSIBLE
FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THE
TRANSMISSION PLANNING THE LOW
DEMAND IS DONE BY THE C. C. THE
RESOURCE- MAKES YES IT IS
SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE PRO
VIEW OFF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION. OF COURSE
WE PROVIDE A LOT OF INPUT ON
WHAT THE STATE OF THE
TRANSMISSION PLAN IS- I BELIEVE
VERY FIRMLY AND LOOKING FORWARD
AND PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND
INFORMING ANY DECISION MAKERS IN
TERMS OF WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO DO
WHAT DO WE NEED IN ORDER TO
ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS IN THE BEST
POSSIBLE WAY- AND THAT IS THE
SIGNAL THAT WE SEND. TO OF
COURSE THE C. C. THE P. YOU SEE
THE LOAD SERVING ENTITIES AND
THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING
OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
TRANSMISSION TO OF COURSE BUILD
ALL THE BILL'S GIGGLE WEST THAT
I TALKED ABOUT. AND THAT WE ALSO
PROACTIVELY POINT OUT WHAT THE
DEMAND IS AND WHAT THE GROWTH
WILL BE SO THAT THOSE PROJECTS
ARE KNOWN AND PEOPLE CAN PLAN
FOR THOSE PROJECTS WHERE THEY
BUILD HOW THEY BUILD IN WHO
THEY'RE BUILT WITH. I PERSONALLY
HAVE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP AND
WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH SOME OF
THE LABOR PARTNERS IN THE LABOR
LEADERS THEY'RE VERY KEENLY
AWARE OF A JUST TRANSITION AND
THE NECESSITY FOR A JUST
TRANSITION OF RETRAINING. AND AS
WE DECARBONISE THE WHOLE ECONOMY
MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A PATH
FORWARD NOT ONLY FOR WORKERS
FROM LEGACY INDUSTRIES. BUT ALSO
A PIPELINE FOR THE NEW TALENT
THAT'S COMING IN. THEY WILL BE
BUILDING THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS AND HAVING BILLS GREEN
COLLAR JOBS WHICH ARE EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT HAVING PATHWAYS INTO
HIGH SCHOOLS HAVING PATHWAYS
INTO COMMUNITY COLLEGES. INTO
STATE SCHOOLS INTO THE UC'S ALL
THE WAY TO THE ENGINEERING
DEPARTMENT. MAKING SURE THAT WE
REACH OUT INTO. THE. COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
HOSTING THE THOSE PROJECTS
BELIEVE MANY OF THE WILL BE BY.
BECAUSE THERE CARBON BECAUSE
CLEAN- TECHNOLOGY. THAT NOT
GOING TO HAVE AN ADVERSE. ON THE
AIR QUALITY AND NOT GOING TO
HAVE AN INFANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON
WATER SYSTEMS AS WELL- WE ARE
ALSO LOOKING AT AND I KNOW THAT
THE STATE IS LOOKING AT AND
PROJECTS TO LOOKING AT IT
JUSTICE FORTY. AND THAT 40% OF
BENEFITS FROM INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS HAVE TO FLOW TO
COMMUNITIES- THAT HAVE BEEN
DISENFRANCHISED THE FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. SO THAT IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT. HAVING A PIPELINE.
INTO WHETHER IT'S FOR MORE- OF
VETERANS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY
TO COME INTO THE WORK FORCE.
WHETHER TRADITIONALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES
INDEED WORKING WITH WINTER WOMEN
IN NONTRADITIONAL ENERGY
INDUSTRIES AND MAKING SURE THAT
WOMEN'S HEALTH WOMEN HAVE ACCESS
TO THOSE JOBS TO IS VERY VERY
IMPORTANT. BUT I AM ASSURED BY
OUR LABOR PARTNERS AND BY THE
BUILDING TRADES THAT THEY HAVE
THE- TRAINING INSTITUTES THE
TRAINING PROGRAMS. THE ABILITY
TO ANTICIPATE WHAT IS NEEDED THE
WILL AND THE DESIRE TO WORK WITH
PROJECT DEVELOPERS. IN ORDER TO
DEVELOP THE WORK FORCE THAT'S
NECESSARY TO COME IN AND STEP IN
READY TO DO THAT. EVEN
INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO THE BUILD
OUT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY TO HAVE
A FAMILY SUSTAINING JOB AND A
FAMILY SUSTAINING CAREER. NOT
JUST AND BE TRAINED TO DO A
MULTITUDE OF TASKS THAT THIS
GRADE OF THE FUTURE IN THIS
ENERGY SYSTEM OF. THE FUTURE IS
GOING TO REQUIRE BECAUSE- SECTOR
THAT WE HAVE TO DO. NOT TO LOOK.
AT BEING OF THE ENERGY SOLUTIONS
NOW ARE TRANSPORTATION AS WE
ELECTRIFY TRANSPORTATION IS PART
OF OUR ENERGY SYSTEM. BUILDINGS
AS WE TRANSITION TO MORE AND
MORE ELECTRIFICATION A PART OF
THE ENERGY SYSTEM INDUSTRIES ARE
GOING TO BE USING THE ENERGY
SYSTEM TO DECARBONISE FUELS-
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
DECARBONISE ARE SOME OF THE USE
OF AGRICULTURE AGRICULTURE ALSO
BRINGS IN SOME GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS SO- AGAIN. OTHER
CULTURES TEND TO BE A PART OF
OUR ENERGY FUTURE AS WELL
REPORTS ARE IMPORTS IDEATIONS
SHIPPING MARINE TIME
APPLICATIONS ALL OF THESE
INDUSTRIES HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A WORKFORCE
THAT'S READY TO WORK ACROSS THE
BOARD AND BE TRAINED AND WELL
EQUIPPED. TO STEP INTO THAT ROLE
I DON'T I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY
IS A TREMENDOUS I THINK THE JOB
QUALITY IS GOING TO BE MUCH
GREATER I THINK ACCESS DIVERSITY
AND INCLUSION IS GOING TO BE
GREATER BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
GENERATION THE PROJECT WILL BE
HERE NOT EXPORTED OUTSIDE OF
BROUGHT INTO CALIFORNIA- SO I'M
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE AND
NOT RESPECTED. THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION THAT'S A GOOD ONE WELL
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER AND-
IN MY MIND I IMAGINE WHAT IS
THAT. GREED THAT YOU LOOK AT I
CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE I WOULD LOVE TO TOUR. AND
GET A SENSE OF HOW- I SO JUST
CALL YOUR SEPARATELY BECAUSE
SILLY I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT-
SO I'M JUST PUTTING A PLUG IN
YOU HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION MY
COLLEAGUES HERE ANYTIME. YOU THE
YOU SENATOR. WILL OUR- CORP TAKE
A BREATH. I'M SORRY FORGOT TO
SPEAK IS. HI GET THE EXCISE THAT
I JUST SORRY. IT'S GOOD THAT
YOU'RE EXCITED. ABOUT THIS
BECAUSE WE NEED IT WE ABSOLUTELY
NEED THAT. I'M GONNA SLOWLY
TURNED TO SENATOR LAYERED- AND
IT THIS IS BEEN THE FINEST RULES
COMMITTEE BECAUSE- MEMBERS COME
IN THEY DO NOT SERVE ON THIS
COMMITTEE AND THEY LOOK TO SAY.
WHERE AM I. SO YOU GET A SENSE
OF WHY THIS IS BEEN THE MOST
CHALLENGING- HEARING WE'VE HAD
TO DATE FRANKLY. SENATOR LAYERED
WELCOME BACK AND I DON'T WANT
YOU TO KNOW. I CAN'T I THINK I
EVEN TEXTED YOU SHE ANSWERED
EVERY QUESTION BUT- I APPRECIATE
THAT AND IT'S PEOPLE ARE GOING
NUTS BECAUSE I NEED ONE VOTE TO
GET THIS BILL OUT THEY WANT TO
CALL SOMEBODY SOME OF THE TEXT
IN THE MINUTE I ASK YOU THE
QUESTION- BUT- THE THING IS I
WOULD SAY I JUST HAVE SUPREME
CONFIDENCE. IN YOU WE CONFIRMED
YOU ONCE BEFORE AND I WISH
SENATOR SMALLWOOD WIFE WELL NO
IT WAS ONLY. YEAH I WAS IN THERE
FOR THE FIRST TWO. OR FIRST
WHATEVER BUT I WANT TO LET
SMALLWOOD NOTE THAT. THE LAST
COUNT HEARING WAS THE WEEK AFTER
TAXES HAVE THEIR ENERGY
MELTDOWN. AND I HAD PASSED HER
IN OUR CLOSE MEETING WHY ARE WE
DIFFERENT AND IT WAS SUCH A
FASCINATING COMPELLING MOMENT
THAT I ASKED DID IN THE
COMMITTEE. AND IT WAS ONE OF
THOSE RARE MOMENTS THAT
EVERYBODY PUT DOWN THEIR PHONES
AND THEY WERE ALL RIVETED AS SHE
DESCRIBED. THE ISOLATION TEXAS
HAS THE FACT THAT THEY- THEY
THOUGHT THEY WERE SMARTER THAN
EVERYBODY DIDN'T INSULATE FOR
COLDS WITH THEIR- A WIND
TURBINES. AND ONLY EL PASO AND-
PANHANDLE WAS CONNECTED TO
ANOTHER STATE OR OUTSIDE. THAT
IT WAS THE PERFECT STORM FOR A
COMPLETE. OUR GRID MELTDOWN. AND
WHAT CALIFORNIA WAS DIFFERENT
AND IT IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE
BEST PRESENTATIONS I'VE HEARD.
IN A RULES COMMITTEE. AND SO
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE HINT IS
BEEN GIVEN TO ME THAT YOU'VE
ANSWERED EVERYTHING IN THE
UNIVERSE ALREADY- I WOULD JUST
ASK ONE QUESTION. WHICH IS- IF
BASICALLY. YOU SAID IN ONE OF
THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT.
HE YOUR JOB IS TO FORESEE THE
UNFORESEEABLE. DOES THAT MEAN
AND HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT ON.
EIGHT EIGHT SPEED OF TWENTY
TWENTY HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS WHEN
YOU LOOK BACK AND SAY SHOULD WE
HAVE FORESEEN THIS COULD WE HAVE
POSSIBLY KNOWN THAT THIS WOULD
HAPPEN AND SOMETIMES THE ANSWER
IS YES WE SHOULD HAVE FORESEEN
THIS. AND IN PLANNING FOR A
FUTURE THAT IS INCREASINGLY-
DIVERSE AND INCREASINGLY
VOLATILE BECAUSE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE THE HUNDRED YEAR STORMS
AND NOW FIVE YEARS STORMS. WE
SEE WE SEE WHETHER AND HEAT
IMPACTS THAT WE DIDN'T SEE
BEFORE WE SEE FIRES AND
WILDFIRES THAT ARE MUCH MUCH
LARGER. AND MUCH MORE INTENSE
THAN WE HAD SEEN BEFORE AND OF
COURSE THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE
GRANT SO AS WE TRY TO FORESEE
THE UNFORESEEABLE AND ALWAYS
HAVE A PLAN B. BECAUSE- YOU KNOW
I ALSO LIKE TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE
A PLAN TO BE SO WE'D BETTER HAVE
A PLAN BE HERE FOR EVERYTHING
THAT WE'RE DOING- WE NEED TO. AS
MUCH AS WE CAN PLAN FOR WHITES-
FULL FULL WHAT WE CANNOT DO FOR
WHAT WE THINK WE CAN FORESEE IN
THE FUTURE. AND IN MANY
INSTANCES- TRIED TO LOOK FORWARD
IN INTO THE FORECAST OF WHAT
COULD CHANGE. OF COURSE WE RELY
ON ANALYTICS OF COURSE WE RELY.
ON ON ON THE GREAT EXPERTISE OF
THE ISO THE ISO HAS ACTUALLY
BECOME USE ME ON BE RIGHT BACK
OKAY. AND AN EXPERT IN
FORECASTING WEATHER I THINK WE
ARE BETTER THAN ANY WEATHER
CHANNEL THEY CAN TO THE
MILLISECOND TELL YOU WHEN THE
SUN'S GOING TO. SHINE WHEN
THERE'S GOING TO BE A CLOUD
COVER WHERE THE CLOUD COVER IS
GOING TO BE HOW THAT'S GOING TO
IMPACT GENERATION. WENDY'S WHEN
PICKING UP WHEN. HIS WIND
PICKING DOWN SO. HI SO THAT- SO
THAT WE CAN AND HIS. THE NEED OF
THE- SO THAT IS VERY. VERY
IMPORTANT TO US AND- YES USING
SCIENCE USING ANALYTICS AND
USING. THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE
BILLED BECAUSE OF EXTENSIVE
EXPERIENCE TO TRY TO FORESEE
WHAT WOULD BE COMING DOWN THE
LINE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND I
COLLEGE TRYING TO FORESEE THE
UNFORESEEABLE BECAUSE- IF
SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO LOOK BACK
AND SAY. COULD YOU HAVE FORESEEN
THIS WHAT HAPPENED IN TWENTY
TWENTY COULD WE HAVE FORESEEN
IT. OUT HUGE IMPACT ON THE HUGE
HEAT WAVE THAT COVERED THE
PACIFIC NORTHWEST. AND THE
DESERT SOUTHWEST AND THE COASTAL
AREAS. AND FIRES AT THE SAME
TIME AND THE LOW HYDRO YEAR- AND
WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE ON
THE GRID BECAUSE THEY WORK.
SUPPLY CHAIN DELAYS IN THE COLD
HOST OF OTHER ISSUES WITH IN
MUCH BETTER POSITION NOW WHICH
IS WHY I'M CONFIDENT FOR THE
SUMMER. WE HAVE THE STORAGE THAT
WE NEED TO HAVE A GOOD HYDRO
YEAR- HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE
THE SAME HEAT IMPACTS BUT IF WE
DO IT PREPARED AND IF WE HAD HAD
THE RESOURCES WE HAVE TODAY BACK
IN TWENTY TWENTY. THE STORY
WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT- I. E.
I BEEN TO CAL AYE SO AND I'VE
SEEN THAT YOU KNOW THE ROOM
WHERE YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING
PLAYED OUT. IN FRONT OF YOU IT'S
PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. VERY
IMPRESSIVE. I I. INTERRUPTED
BECAUSE I WANTED TO- SENATOR
LAYER TO WILL BE BACK. TO ASK A
QUESTION. AND I'VE ASKED YOU
THIS BEFORE AND I'M GOING TO ASK
AGAIN. I REALLY WANT TO
UNDERSTAND HOW YOU THINK
CALIFORNIA CAN BENEFIT BY
EXPANDING. OF THE
REGIONALIZATION- YOU KNOW THAT
WHOLE PROCESS. THE L. A. O. ASK
QUESTION WE'VE ASKED KID. HOW DO
HOW DO WE DO THAT AND STILL NOT
HAVE CALIFORNIA BE
DISADVANTAGED- IN TERMS OF OTHER
STATES. I'M I THINK WE'VE DONE A
QUITE A GOOD JOB WITH THE ENERGY
IMBALANCE MARKET I AM I AM VERY-
SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPROACH THAT
CALIFORNIA- SO HAS TAKEN AS I
SAID IN ORDER FOR US TO
INTEGRATE MORE RENEWABLES. TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF REGIONAL RESOURCE
DIVERSITY AND TIME DIFFERENCES
WHILE DOT REGIONAL HORIZONTAL
CORROBORATION IS IMPORTANT.
WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN
BUILDING DOT PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET
WHICH IS A VOLUNTARY MARKET THAT
WE LAUNCHED IN TWENTY FIFTEEN-
AND ACTUALLY ACTUALLY HAS
RESULTED IN NOT ONLY REDUCING.
EMISSIONS AND- THE CLOSURE OFF
MORE FOSSIL RESOURCES BECAUSE OF
OPTIMIZED OPERATIONS ACROSS THE
BOARD BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF
INTEGRATION OF MORE RENEWABLE.
AND THAT ALLOWED US TO BRING HIM
BACK TO CALIFORNIA ONE POINT
THREE BILLION DOLLARS IN
BENEFITS FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY
MILLION IN THE LAST QUARTER
ALONE. AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT
AS WE GROW THIS MARKET- TO THE
DAY I HAD OPPORTUNITY WHICH WE
ARE WORKING ON NOW AND WE'VE
EVOLVED THE GOVERNANCE WITH THE
KI¾M GOVERNING BODY AND HAVE NEW
GOVERNANCE RULES I WAS ON THE
GOVERNANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE
WORKING WITH OUR- STATEWIDE
PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE WEST AND
I'LL HAVE TO SAY. THAT THE TRUST
IS THE STRAW LONG. KONG IN COLOR
IS STRONG ENOUGH AVENUE BECAUSE
WE ALSO THE- RELIABLE CORD- THE
AYE SO WAS SELECTED FOR ALL OF
THE WEST WHICH IS WHICH IS
REALLY GREAT. AND WE KNOW WE
HAVE WORK TO DO- AND WE KNOW
THAT AS WE EVOLVE THOSE MARKETS
AND TRANSITION TO MORE AND MORE
INTEGRATION. IT IS A TECHNICAL
ISSUE THAT OF COURSE IS SOLVABLE
ON A TECHNICAL LEVEL IT'S ALSO
POLITICAL ISSUE IN TERMS OF
GOVERNANCE AND HOW WILL
GOVERNMENTS INVOLVE AND HOW WILL
POLICYMAKERS AND POLICY LEADERS.
THROUGHOUT THE WEST DECIDED TO
TACKLE THAT ISSUE TOGETHER TO
ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT GOVERNANCE
THAT'S BACK WITH DOUBLE ACROSS
THE BOARD THAT REPRESENTS. ALL
OF CALIFORNIANS AND OF COURSE
THE OTHER STATES INTERESTS WE
ARE WE ARE CERTAIN THAT
WHATEVER. THE DECISION IS THAT-
WHAT IS WITHIN CALIFORNIA'S FOR
YOU IN TERMS OF CITING PROJECT
IN TERMS OF RAW. RESOURCE
DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF POLICY
GOALS ALWAYS FANS AND THAT IF WE
PARTICIPATE AND LEAD A MARKET
THAT MARKET SHOULD ONLY BE ON
THAT BENEFIT TO CALIFORNIA AND
IRATE PARENTS AND OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND NOT A NOT A LIABILITY HOW DO
YOU ENSURE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.
IN THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE.
THERE IS THE ROBBER. AND IT'S- I
THINK WE WERE GOT A VERY L. A.
STILL I WANT HAVE NOW IN TERMS
OF THE INTERACTION BETWEEN. THE
ISO BOARD AND ASK INTERACTING
AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE
GOVERNING BODY. THAT REPRESENTS
THE GREAT A WEST AND ON THE
INTERESTS OF THE ENERGY
IMBALANCE MARKET IN THE FUTURE
INTEREST OF THE DAY AHEAD
MARKET- I THINK WE'VE GOT A VERY
GOOD STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF OUR
JOINT AUTHORITY. AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE HAVE DECISION MAKING
PROCESS IN PLACE BUT ALSO HAVE
THE ABILITY TO. HAVE THE FINAL
DECISION BE OURS AS THE BOARD
AND MAKING SURE THAT THE DOCTOR
ALWAYS REFLECTS CALIFORNIA'S
BEST INTEREST IN THE INTEREST OF
ON GRID. IN THE INTEREST OF ALL
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS AND ABILITY
TO MEET OUR POLICY GOALS
BECAUSE- IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE
TO BE PART OF A REGIONAL MARKET
AND BUILD. A REGIONAL MARKET
THAT DOESN'T ENABLE. OUR
POLICIES TO BE ACHIEVED IN THE
FASTER AND MORE RELIABLE WAY.
AND ALSO AS AN ADDED BENEFIT
ENABLES OTHER STATES TO MEET
THEIR GOALS TO AND MANY OF THEM
HAVE. A VICIOUS GOALS LIKE COST.
I LASKO. BUT YOU WERE HERE WHEN
WE WERE TALKING TO MISS DOUGLAS
ABOUT THE COST OF ENERGY- WE
PROBABLY PAY MORE IN ENERGY
COSTS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER
WESTERN STATES. WOULD THIS GIVE
US. LESS COSTS TO OUR- CUSTOMERS
ARE CONSTITUENTS YOUR CUSTOMERS
ARE CONSTITUENTS IF WE WERE TO
EXPAND THE GRID. AT EIGHT YOU
KNOW IN TERMS OF THE GOVERNMENT
STRUCTURE WITH THESE OTHER
WESTERN STATES. I SURE HOPE SO
THAT IF THE ENERGY IMBALANCE
MARKET IS ANY INDICATOR IT'S
BEEN A BENEFIT IN TERMS OF OUR
COULD ECONOMIC RESOURCES FLOWING
BACK TO CALIFORNIA AND FLOWING
TO ALL THE OTHER. MEMBERS AS
WELL WHICH IS WHY THERE'S SUCH A
HUGE INTEREST IN HAVING A MORE
INTEGRATED REGIONAL-
PARTICIPATION AND MARKET BECAUSE
IT IS A NET BENEFIT. TO ALL
STATES AND TO ALL PARTICIPANTS
WE JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE
BENEFITS ARE DISTRIBUTED
EQUITABLY ACROSS THE BOARD AS
WELL- TRANSMISSION PLAN IS THREE
POINT SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS FOR
THOSE FORTY FIVE PROJECTS THAT
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT NEED TO BE
INTEGRATED- DOT IS LESS THAN A
FRACTION OF A CENT. PER KILOWATT
HOUR- OF FOR THE FOR THE LIFE OF
THE PROJECT SO THE COST OF THE
AYE SO. ISN'T AN IMPACT ON RATES
RATES IS MUCH MORE A LOCAL ISSUE
AND A UTILITY ISSUE. OUR OUR JOB
AND WE FEEL OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LOWEST
IMPACT POSSIBLE INDEED BRING IN
MORE BENEFITS. TO OUR CUSTOMERS
AND CONTINUE. TO DO THAT
THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT THE
MARKETS. I HI I WILL FALL UP
PLAY I THINK BENEFITS. TO OUR
RATE PAYERS IN TERMS OF LOWER
COSTS IN RAIMES OF NOT
INCREASING COSTS YES ANY IN
TERMS OF ALLOWING OUR POLICY
PROGRAMS OF DECARBONIZING THE
GRID. AND ACHIEVING THE CLIMATE
GOALS IN THE MOST OPTIMIZED
CONNECT EXPEDITIOUS WAY ON THE
HIGHEST VALUE. OKAY THANK YOU
WHAT WHAT IS IT THAT THEY TELL
ME AT THE AYE SO WHAT IS OUR JOB
OUR JOB IS TO OPTIMIZE
OPTIONALITY AND MAKE SURE THAT
WE ACHIEVE EVERYTHING. WITH MOST
EFFICIENTLY. MEET CLIMATE AND
PAULA GOAL. AT THE LOWEST COST.
AND HIGHEST VALUE. AND WE ALWAYS
TRY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. I AM
GOING TO GO TO MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC NOW- AND SO I WILL START.
RIGHT HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. AND ASK FOR THOSE WHO
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT YOUR
NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION YOU
REPRESENT IF ANY AND VERY BRIEF
COMMENTS WHAT AID. THANK YOU
HAVE A CHANCE MONEY JONES THE
INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS WE
REPRESENT UTILITY SCALE
RENEWABLES STORAGE AS WELL AS
THE GAS LEAK WHICH ALSO HELP
KEEP THE LIGHTS ON UNDER.
EXTREME CONDITIONS AND- I THINK-
YOU'VE YOU'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT
YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE- ANGELIA
DOES A GREAT JOB- BASICALLY-
CHERRY INDEED THE CALIFORNIA
ISO. AND I THINK IT'S THE
ABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO
ACTUALLY DELIVER ON THAT FROM
THE STANDPOINT OF BOTH- NOT ONLY
ARE OUR GOALS BUT RELIABILITY AS
WELL AS SEEN AND IN THE FUTURE.
OF THE TRANSMISSION PLANNING
THAT I THINK THE REST OF THE
WEST IS KIND OF LOOKING TO THERE
ARE. PEOPLE WHO WOULD ACTUALLY
LIKE TO JOIN US AND SO THAT'S
GOOD BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE
STRONG LEADERSHIP- AT THE EYES
SO WHICH I THINK SHE REPRESENTS
AS WELL AS A IT IS A GREAT
MANAGEMENT TEAM AT THIS TIME SO
I WOULD. HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU
TO- MOVE HER- OF FORWARD TO A
FULL CONFIRMATION THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME
BACK. PATRICK WELCH CALIFORNIA
IS FOR. ASSOCIATION WE'RE
PRESENT PUBLIC POWER UTILITIES
AROUND THE STATE SERVE ABOUT
EIGHT OR 9% OF BIAS TO LOAD AND
ALSO REPRESENT MUNICIPAL
BOUNCING AT THE RESERVE STRONG
COURTING RELATIONSHIPS. WITH AYE
SO PLEASED TO SUPPORT MR GALANTI
THAT AND WANT TO SPECIFICALLY-
CAN GRADUATE HER AND EXPRESS OUR
THANKS FOR HER WORK ON ENERGY
IMBALANCE MARKET IN THE EXTENDED
DATA MARKET AS WELL. THANK YOU.
WELCOME BACK THANK YOU AND I'M
SURE- MY NAME IS DANIEL KIM-
PARTNER IN THE GOLDEN STATE
CLEAN ENERGY IS A DEVELOPER OF
THE WATSON SOLAR PARK. AND WE
ALSO SUPPORT AND THIS COUNTY WAS
A CONFIRMATION- TO THE AYE SO
BORED. SHE'S BEEN A STRONG
LEADER IN THIS POSITION AND WE-
CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO
HAVING. HER YEAH REALLY THE
INTELLECTUAL- BEACH AND YOU KNOW
TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE- INNOVATIVE
POLICIES ARE COST EFFECTIVE FOR
CALIFORNIANS. THANK YOU. NEXT
WITNESS. GOOD AFTERNOON TIFFANY
FAN- IN SUPPORT OF A NUMBER OF
CLIENTS- A CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
CHOICE ASSOCIATION. CALIFORNIA
YOU FISHING SEE ANTMAN
MANAGEMENT COUNCIL INTERCEPTS
POWER GENERAL MOTORS AND MC
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME
BACK. GOOD AFTERNOON ANDREA
TWEET WHICH ARE YOUR INS WI
SMELLS AND LAYING- THIS IS A
VERY CRITICAL TIME WITH RESPECT
TO CRY SO AND OUR NEIGHBORING
STATES AND GRID MODERNIZATION.
IT ALSO REGIONALIZATION INCELS
VERY CRUCIAL APPOINTMENT WE
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF ADVANCED
ENERGY ECONOMY THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY THIS IS THE
RESURRECTION THE GROUP HAS NOW
CHANGED HIS NAME TO ADVANCE
ENERGY UNITED. THANK YOU WE HAVE
THAT ON THE RECORD. LET ME- NO
FURTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT-
OKAY JUST MAKING SURE OF COVERED
BASIS LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED IN OPPOSITION. OKAY
SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD LET
ME GO BACK TO OUR MODERATOR AND
SAY WELCOME BACK AND WOULD YOU
I'D T. UP PEOPLE TELL BY
TELECONFERENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR ANYONE WHO
WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE
FIFTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. YES THIS IS PETER MILLER
REPRESENTING THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL IN
SUPPORT. MR MILLER THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR HANGING IN WITH US
TODAY WE APPRECIATE YOUR
TESTIMONY OTHER WITNESSES. THERE
IS NO ONE ELSE THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TODAY MISTER
MODERATOR WE REALLY APPRECIATED
. I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE AND ASK IF THERE IS A
MOTION SENATOR LANKFORD LIKE TO
MAKE A COMMENT FOR PCS. I WOULD
LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU. I
WOULD REALLY HAVE TO GO DRAG
SOMEBODY I'M JUST MEETING A
DRAGON TO COMMITTEE HEARING TO
BE THE LAST VOTE TO FILL OUT.
DID YOU DID IT JUST CUT OUT. SO
WHICH WAS THE REASON WHAT I WAS
PRESENTING WHEN I LEFT SO- I
JUST APOLOGIZE AND ARE I AM SO
CONFIDENT. ABOUT THE GOOD JOB
THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING AND
YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS FOR ALL THE
ISSUES I WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE
TO TALK ABOUT. THAT I'M VERY
PLEASED. TO MOVE OF THE
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU SENATOR
LAYERED- THIS IS HIS AREA OF
GREAT INTEREST I WOULD SAY
EXPERTISE BUT AFTER LISTENING TO
YOU I MISS DOUGLAS. I THINK IT'S
INTEREST AS OPPOSED. WITH GREAT
AFFECTION I SAY THAT TO THE
FORMER SECRETARY OF NATURAL
RESOURCES BECAUSE THE VICE CHAIR
IS NOT HERE TO SAY THAT- OKAY-
WE WILL NOW- MADAM SECRETARY
WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THERE HI THERE I. A TROUBLED.
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS SIDE GROWTH ATKINS HI A
CONCISE ON CALL AND WE WILL PUT
THAT ON CALL BECAUSE OUR
COLLEAGUES WILL COME BACK AND-
BUT YOU DO HAVE THREE VOTES
ALREADY SO THAT MEANS. YOU ARE
FREE TO GO- WITHOUT WORRY AT
THIS POINT AND- WE THANK YOU WE
WILL MOVE THIS ON TO THE FULL
SENATE FOR CONFIRMATION HILLARY
JUST- CONGRATULATE YOU OBVIOUSLY
ON. HAVING YOUR DAUGHTER WITH
YOU AGAIN HERE TODAY AND YOU
MUST BE QUITE PROUD. AND WE
THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER WOMAN- IN
THIS FIELD OF EXPERTISE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE
THANK YOU ABSOLUTELY. HAVE A
GOOD REST OF YOUR DAY- OKAY-
LET'S SEE. WE WE WILL NEED TO
HAVE MEMBERS COME BACK BEFORE WE
CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO
WE'RE JUST GOING TO PAUSE HERE
AND WAIT TO SEE. IF WE HAVE A
COUPLE OF OUR COLLEAGUES WHO ARE
ABLE TO COME BACK DO I NEED TO
OPEN THE ROLE FOR OKAY I CAN
OPEN THE ROLE ON. ITEMS ONE A-
THIS GROWTH. WELL I THOUGHT BUT
LATER COMMUNITIES AND- YEAH.
YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'RE A TEAM.
BLARED ON ITEM ONE A. HI THERE I
. AND WE STILL NEED TO LEAVE
THAT ON CALL CORRECT EFFORTS
SENATOR FOR THE VICE CHAIR. OKAY
SO- WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL
TAKE A PAUSE AS WE- WAIT ON
COLLEAGUES TO COME BACK WHICH WE
WILL NEED TO DO BEFORE WE GO
INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO IF WE
CAN SOMEHOW FIND OUT OF FOUR TO
COLLEAGUES ARE ABLE TO. I
REALIZE- THE VICE CHAIR MAY NOT
QUITE BE ABLE TO COME BACK SO
WE'RE JUST WILL PAUSE FOR A
MINUTE- AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK
I THINK OUR RULES COMMITTEE CAN
COME BACK IN SESSION SO THAT WE
CAN. TAKE GET AN UPDATE ON VOTES
AND CLOSE THE ROLE SO LET ME ASK
ON MADAM SECRETARY TO OPEN THE
ROLE ON ITEM ONE A. THE MEMBER
OF THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION ONE A GROWTH I GROW
FIVE FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS OUT
FIVE TWO ZERO ITEM ONE B. THE
INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR
GOVERNING BOARD OPEN THE ROLE
GROWTH HIGH GREW I. FORTY ZERO
FOUR TWO ZERO OKAY THAT IS OUT-
LET'S GO TO ITEM THREE OH TWO C.
D. ANY THESE ARE GOVERNOR'S
APPOINTEES NOT REQUIRED TO
APPEAR TO CALIFORNIA WATER
COMMISSIONERS AND ONE SAN
JOAQUIN DELTA CUT CONSERVANCY
GOVERNING BOARD. OPEN THE ROLE
GROWS I GROW FIVE FIVE ZERO FIVE
TWO ZERO THAT IS OUT ITEM THREE-
REFERRAL OF BILLS OPEN THE ROLE
PROOF I GROW FIVE FIVE TWO ZERO
FIVE TWO ZERO THAT IS OUT AND WE
DID A SEPARATION ON FLOOR IT
KNOWLEDGE MINTS MEADOW VICE
CHAIR SO. ITEM FOR A REQUEST BY-
VICE CHAIR GROWTH FOR FLORIDA
KNOWLEDGE MINT OPEN THE ROLE.
GROWTH I GREW FIVE FOUR ZERO
FOUR ZERO THAT IS OUT AND THEN
LASTLY ITEMS FIVE SIX AND SEVEN
FLOOR ACKNOWLEDGMENTS OPEN THE
ROLE GROVE BY GROW FIVE FIVE TO
SEVEN FIVE TWO ZERO THAT IS OUT.
OKAY LET ME THANK EVERYONE FOR
THEIR DILIGENCE AND- WORK TODAY
THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC
AGENDA. ARE TODAY'S PUBLIC
AGENDA I WANT TO THANK ALL THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATED
TODAY. IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO
TESTIFY PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR
COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS IN
WRITING TO THE RULES COMMITTEE
OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE FOR
INSTRUCTIONS YOUR COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US
AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY IN OUR OFFICIAL
HEARING RECORDS- I THANK
EVERYONE FOR THEIR PATIENCE
ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW DIFFICULT
IT WAS BETWEEN. MEMBERS COMING
AND GOING FROM VARIOUS
COMMITTEES TO PRESENT BILLS AND
TO VOTE ON BILLS AND OTHER
COMMITTEES SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE YOUR COOPERATION THANK
YOU TO OUR COURT REPORTER A
SPECIALLY TODAY- AND WITH THAT
ARE SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
WILL NOW MOVE TO EXECUTIVE
SESSION.