WITH. ALL RIGHT GOOD MORNING-
SELLING. FISHERY COMMITTEE WILL
COME TO ORDER OF THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON- TESTIMONY AND ALSO
VIA TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8216 THE ACCESS CODE IS
. NINE NINE SEVEN NINE THREE
FOUR SEVEN WE'RE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARINGS TODAY IN THE-
STREET BUILDING I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO
PRESENT THEMSELVES IN ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED- SO FAR WERE
A COMMITTEE OF ONE. LOTS OF
ACTIVITY GOING ON TODAY HEARINGS
OF BOTH IN THE CAPITAL AS WELL
AS IN THE SPRING SPACE I KNOW A
NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE HAVE. OTHER
COMMITMENTS EITHER ON THEIR OWN
BILLS RATHER COMMITTEES BUT NO
LESS I'D ASK THAT THOSE WHO ARE
WITHIN EARSHOT PRESENT
THEMSELVES IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM ME MENTION A COUPLE
HOUSEKEEPING THINGS TODAY- FIRST
IN TERMS OF ORDER PRESENTATION
IS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER WILSON IS
HERE WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH
ITEMS ONE IN TWO OPPOSITE BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WILSON A. B.
SEVEN SEVEN NINE A. B. EIGHT SIX
EIGHT AND ENTER STANDARD
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WILSON IS ALSO
GOING TO PRESENT- ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN A. B. FOURTEEN SEVENTY TWO
ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ALVAREZ- ONE IMPORTANT
HOUSEKEEPING MATTER. ON AB
TWELVE TWENTY EIGHT- BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HOLDEN. AT THE REQUEST OF
THE PROPONENTS A. B. TWELVE
TWENTY EIGHT HAS BEEN REMOVED
FROM TODAY'S AGENDA LET ME
REPEAT THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE
PHONE LINES ARE HERE WAITING FOR
AB TWELVE TWENTY TO BE HEARD. IT
IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD TODAY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS BILL
IS NOT GONNA BE HEARD THIS YEAR
IN FACT IT IS GOING TO BE HEARD
IT'S GOING TO BE HEARD BEFORE WE
RECESS. IN SEPTEMBER EITHER IN
AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. I'M GONNA
BE REQUESTING A RULE WAIVER- AND
I BELIEVE THAT THAT RULE WAIVER
WILL BE- WILL BE GRANTED SO THAT
WE CAN HAVE THIS HEARING IN
AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. I'M WORKING
WITH LEADERSHIP- AND I HAVE
CONFIDENCE THAT THAT THE RULE
WAIVER WILL BE GRANTED- MY
EXPECTATION IS ON A. B. TWELVE
TWENTY EIGHT. I REALIZE THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF MOVING PARTS
THAT THAT BOTH SIDES ARE ALL
SIDES WILL SIT DOWN AND CONTINUE
TO NEGOTIATE A GLOBAL AGREEMENT
. UP I BELIEVE. SO THAT THERE
IS- NOT ANY MISCONCEPTIONS-
GIVEN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS
BILL IN MY HISTORY WITH THIS
BILL OR THIS ISSUE. THAT
FRANCHISE ORDERS AT SOME POINT
IN TIME WHEN THE FRANCHISE OR
KNOWS. THAT THERE'S BEEN A
VIOLATION BY A FRANCHISEE
REPEATED VIOLATIONS AND FAILS TO
ACT THAT AT SOME POINT FRANCHISE
OR- THOSE ANCHOR RESPONSIBILITY
IF THEY FAIL TO ACT WHEN THEY
HAVE KNOWLEDGE- I'M HOPING AGAIN
THAT ALL SIDES. NOT CONTINUE TO
NEGOTIATE SO THAT WHEN WE RETURN
IN AUGUST. AND WE HAVE A
HEARING- THAT. THIS ISSUE IS NOT
RESOLVED AS LEAST AS- NEARLY
RESOLVED. SO THAT WE CAN HEAR
THE BILL. ALL RIGHT. HAVING SAID
THAT. LET ME NOTE. THE BILLS
THAT ARE ON CONSENT TODAY. AND
ALSO LET ME NOTE THAT IS ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY THREE AB FOUR
EIGHT SIX BY SOME MEMBER KALRA
IS BEEN PULLED BY THE AUTHOR
OTHER WORDS NOT CAN BE HEARD. SO
WE HAVE SEVEN ITEMS ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR TODAY THEY ARE
AS FOLLOWS FILE NUMBER TEN. I'M
ACTUALLY GONNA WAIT JUST A
SECOND FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO
BOTH LEAVE AND COME BACK INTO
THE HEARING ROOM.
ALL RIGHT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO
ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING-
WE'RE GOING TO. MAKE SURE WE
PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION IN
TERMS OF THE ACCESS CODE NOT
COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A
MOMENT- BUT LET'S LET'S RETURN
NOW TO THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. FILE I'M
NUMBER TEN A. B. FOUR FOUR EIGHT
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER WON CARILLO
WITH AMENDMENTS FILE NUMBER
ELEVEN A. B. FOURTEEN OH FOUR BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WENDY CARILLO
WITH AMENDMENTS FILE NUMBER
SIXTEEN AB EIGHT FOUR FOUR BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER GIPSON. FILE
NUMBER TWENTY TWO A. B. FOUR
FIVE EIGHT BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER JO
JONES SAWYER FILE NUMBER THIRTY
ONE AB TEN TWENTY NINE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER PELLERIN FILE
ITEM NUMBER THIRTY FOUR A. B.
EIGHTY ONE BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RAMOS AND FINALLY FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY THREE AB THIRTEEN
TWENTY SEVEN BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
WEBER WITH AMENDMENTS. ALL RIGHT
OF WE'RE WE'RE WE NOW HAVE. FOR
TWO MORE AND WE WILL HAVE A
QUORUM HERE. BUT WHAT WE'RE
GONNA DO IS WE'RE GOING TO START
IS THE SUB COMMITTEE. AND LET ME
JUST GO OVER THE GROUND RULES
SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN
HERE BEFORE THEY'RE FAMILIAR
WITH THE GROUND RULES BUT LET ME
REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME. EACH
BUILDING DATE WILL HAVE TO
WITNESSES TO PRIMARY WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT AND TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IT'S NOT
REQUIRED BUT IF YOU HAVE TO
WITNESSES EACH OF THOSE
WITNESSES WILL BE AFFORDED. TWO
MINUTES. AFTER THE MAIN
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT SPEAK. WILL
THEN ENTERTAIN THOSE IN THE
HEARING ROOM TO APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE AND PROVIDE WHAT'S
KNOWN AS MEET TO TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT WHAT THAT MEANS IS
YOU'LL IDENTIFY YOURSELF. YOUR
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION ON
THE BILL WILL THEN TURN TO THE
OPPOSITION OPPOSITION SAME
THING. TWO MINUTES EACH. TWO
WITNESSES. AFTER THE OPPOSITION
PRIMARY WITNESSES TESTIFY. THEN
THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED MAY
APPROACH MY PHONE AND GIVE US
YOUR NAME. AFFILIATION IN YOUR
POSITION. THEN AFTER SUPPORT IN
OPPOSITION EACH OF TESTIFIED
THEN WE WILL TURN TO THE PHONE
LINES IN ON. EVERY BILL TODAY
THERE'S A FIFTEEN MINUTE LIMIT
ON THE PHONE LINE THAT MEANS
THAT ON SOME BILLS. SOME FOLKS
WERE WAITING ON THE PHONE LINE
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
THEIR ME TO TESTIMONY. HOWEVER
IF YOU WISH TO HAVE YOUR VOICE
HEARD YOU MAY SUBMIT A LETTER OR
WRITING- TO THE COMMITTEE USING
ONE OF THE METHODS DESCRIBED ON
THE- CALIFORNIA STATE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE.
ALL RIGHT- WILL NOW HEAR. FROM
OUR FIRST AUTHOR BUT BEFORE WE
DO LET ME MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
PROVIDED THE- ACCURATE. ACCESS
NUMBER. SO IF YOU WISH TO CALL
IN TODAY THE PARTICIPANT NUMBER
IS EIGHT SEVEN SEVEN TWO TWO
SIX. EIGHT TWO ONE SIX AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS. FIVE SEVEN ZERO
ZERO ZERO NINE SIX WHEN REPEAT
THE ACCESS CODE. ACCESS CODE
TODAY IS FIVE SEVEN ZERO ZERO
ZERO NINE SIX. ALL RIGHT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WILSON- AB ITEM
NUMBER ONE A. B. SEVEN SEVEN
NINE. GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR-
SENATORS. AFTER A SEVERE DROUGHT
AND VOLATILE WEATHER EXACERBATED
BY THE CLIMATE CRISIS CALIFORNIA
HAS INCREASINGLY BEEN FORCED TO
RELY ON GROUNDWATER TO MEET ITS
DEMAND FOR WHAT. IN PARTICULAR
GROUNDWATER IS A LIFELINE FOR
CALIFORNIA FARMERS SPECIFICALLY
FOR SMALL FARMERS WHO HAVE
DIFFICULTY ACCESSING OUR FORDING
ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF SURFACE
WATER. IN RESPONSE TO PERSISTENT
CONDITIONS OF EXTREME DROUGHT
AND CONCERNS OVER GROUNDWATER
DEPLETION THE CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATURE ENACTED THIS
AVAILABLE GROUND WATER
MANAGEMENT SIGMA AND TWENTY
TWENTY FOURTEEN. SEGMENT
REQUIRES LOCAL AND REGIONAL A
DISEASE TO FORMULATE PLANS TO
ENSURE SUSTAINABLE GROUNDWATER
USE ON A BASIN WIDE BASIS. THE
PROGRAM IS BUILT AROUND LOCAL
CONTROL OF GROUND WATER SUPPLY
ALLOWING READERS TO DESIGN
GROUND WATER CONTROL SYSTEMS
THAT WORK BEST FOR THEIR OWN
COMMUNITIES. HOWEVER AS
IMPLEMENTATION OF SIGMA HAS
CONTINUED TO UNFOLD MANY HAVE
RAISED CONCERNS THAT SMALL AND
DISADVANTAGED FARMERS HAVE NOT
BEEN ADEQUATELY REPRESENTED.
THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SOME OF
THE KEY BURDENS SIGMA PLACES ON
SMALL AND DISADVANTAGED FARMERS
ARE RELATED TO THE PROCESS OF
WATER RIGHTS ADJUDICATION AND
GROUNDWATER BASINS OUR RIGHTS
ARE DISPUTED. THESE
ADJUDICATIONS TAKE PLACE AND NON
SPECIALIZED COURTS AND CAN BE
LENGTHY EXPENSIVE AND OPAQUE.
ALL FACTORS WHICH EXACERBATE THE
EXISTING RESOURCE DISPARITIES
AND UNDER REPRESENTATION OF
SMALL FARMERS AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. SMALL AND SOCIALLY
DISADVANTAGED FARMERS CAN LACK
THE TIME AND RESOURCES TO SIT IN
ON PROCEEDINGS. CRACKDOWN COURT
DOCUMENTS THE STATE UPDATED ON
THE PROCESS AND CAN OFTEN FIND
DIFFICULTY AFFORDING THE LEGAL
COSTS TO STAY APPRISED AND FIGHT
FOR THEIR WATER RATES. IN TWENTY
FIFTEEN AB THIRTEEN NINETY WAS
PASSED TO HELP STREAMLINE THE
EDUCATION PROCESS AND ALIGN THE
PROCESS WITH THE GOALS OF SIGMA.
HOWEVER STAKEHOLDERS HAVE RAISED
SEVERAL CONCERNS AROUND THE BE
USES OF THE PROCESS AND AREAS
FOR IMPROVEMENT. FOR INSTANCE
SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WORRY
THAT BAD FAITH ACTORS. RESORT TO
THE EDUCATION PROCESS TO EXTEND
THE TIME IN WHICH THEY CAN PUMP
GROUNDWATER WITHOUT RESTRICTION.
THIS PAST FALL OUR OFFICE IS
STUDENTS FROM UCLA LAW PUT
TOGETHER A RESEARCH PROJECT
ALONG WITH A SERIES OF
STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS AND
IDENTIFIED SEVERAL AREAS OF
POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. TO THE
JUDICATA PROCESS THAT PROMOTE
TRANSPARENCY. IS ME THAT
PROMOTES TRANSPARENCY EQUITY AND
SHOULD BENEFIT ALL PARTIES
INVOLVED. THESE SUGGESTIONS CAME
TOGETHER AND A. B. SEVEN SEVEN
NINE THE BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY.
WE HAVE ALSO COMING STAKEHOLDER
MEETINGS AND MET WITH OPPOSITION
SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW
MONTHS AND I'VE DROPPED IT DID
SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS TO
REFLECT THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THESE AMENDMENTS HAVE ADDRESSED
SEVERAL CONCERNS RAISED TO US
AND WHILE THERE ARE STILL ONE
LAST ITEM REMAINING WE ARE
CONFIDENT WE WILL IRON OUT THE
REMAINING CONCERNS. ADDITIONALLY
MANY OF THE AMENDMENTS WERE
MEANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN
RAISED BY JUDICIAL COUNCIL. AND
WHILE WE WERE NOTIFIED RECENTLY
OF ADDITIONAL CONCERNS OVER
SEPARATION OF POWERS WE DO
UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAST SET OF
AMENDMENTS. HAVE REMOVED THEIR
OPPOSITION. WE CONTINUE TO LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF
THE ORGANIZATIONS AND JUST WANT
TO IMPROVE EMPHASIZE THE
APPRECIATION FOR THEIR FEEDBACK
OVER THE LIFETIME. OF THIS BILL.
I ALSO LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE
FOR THEIR RESEARCH THE WORK. AND
THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED ON THIS
LEGISLATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE WALL
IN THE COMING WEEKS. THAT WOULD
LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR WITNESS
DAY RUNS IN FROM THE COMMUNITY
ALLIANCE WITH FAMILY FARMERS
FARMERS. THANK YOU SIR. SHARE
MEMBERS- DAVE BRUNSON FOR
COMMUNION LINES WITH FAMILY
FARMERS OR CALF. WE REPRESENT
SMALL FAMILY FARMS FOR FORTY
FIVE YEARS IN CALIFORNIA. WHO
DOES POORLY IN EDUCATION THAT
HISTORIANS TELL US IT'S TO SMALL
FARMS ROAD RESIDENTS AND THE
ENVIRONMENT. AB SEVEN SEVEN NINE
TRIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THIS
UNFAIRNESS. IT'S UNFORTUNATE
THIS SEGMENT DIDN'T ELIMINATED
YOU TO CASON OPTION BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE USING IT TO TRY TO
CIRCUMVENT CIGNA. AND THE
GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY
AGENCY PROCESS. IN CREE ARMOR TO
LARGE FARMING OPERATIONS GROWING
CARROTS AND NOW OWNED BY HEDGE
FUNDS FILED FOR JUDICATA.
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY
THE GSA PROCESS WAS GOING. AND
THEY PETITION THE COURT TO
SUSPEND THE PUMPING REDUCTIONS
THAT THE GSA AND THE GSP HAD SET
. THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO
DRAIN THE AQUIFER AS LONG AS
THEY CAN. THE JUDGE SAID ALL THE
SMALL PUMPERS NEEDED TO BE
REPRESENTED IN COURT. AND A
RECENT ARTICLE IN THE SANTA
BARBARA INDEPENDENT. FOUND THAT
THE SMALLER FARMS AND RURAL
RESIDENTS ARE SPENDING HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON
ATTORNEY FEES. RESIDENTS SAY
SOME OF THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE
SELLING THEIR TRUCKS TO PAY
LAWYERS FEES OTHERS ARE TAKING
SECOND JOBS OR POSTPONING THEIR
RETIREMENT. IN INDIAN WELLS A
LARGE PISTACHIO FORM THAT HAVE
BEEN PLUNKED DOWN IN THE DESERT
FILED FOR ADJUDICATION ALSO
UNHAPPY WITH THE GSA IN ITS
PROPOSED FEES. THE GSA THERE
TELLS US THAT THERE ARE EIGHT
HUNDRED ROLE RESIDENTS AND SMALL
FARMERS NOT REPRESENTED IN
COURT. AND IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT
WILL HAPPEN TO THEM. THE REALITY
IS THAT SMALL FARMERS AND RURAL
RESIDENTS CANNOT AFFORD A
LENGTHY COURT PROCESS. IDEALLY
THE COURT WOULD APPOINT CLASS
COUNSEL FOR THEM. AND WE HAVE
PROVIDED ONE MILLION DOLLARS VIA
D. W. R. TO THE UC DAVIS LAW
SCHOOL TO SET UP A LEGAL CLINIC.
TO SEEK TO INTERVENE IN THIS
PROCESS. BUT WE NEED TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE
EDUCATION LINE UP WITH CIGNA AND
THE G. S. P.'S AND TRIED TO
DISCOURAGE THESE END RUNS AROUND
THE COMMUNITY PROCESS. TO KEEP
EDUCATION FROM TAKING OVER EVERY
GROUNDWATER BASIN. WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT AB SEVEN SEVEN NINE AND
WE URGE YOUR I'VE OF. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU- OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. PLEASE BRIDGE
MICROPHONE. GOOD MORNING AT
PHILIP PETERS KERN COUNTY
SUPERVISOR ACTING AS VICE CHAIR
OF THE NEEDLES VALUE GROUNDWATER
AUTHORITY AND SUPPORT OF AB
SEVEN SEVEN NINE. THANK YOU
SUPERVISOR OTHERS IN THE HEARING
ROOM IN SUPPORT OF AB SEVEN
SEVEN NINE SIGNALING APPROACHES
MICROPHONE LET'S TURN THE
OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AB
SEVEN SEVEN NINE. PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. WARNING
MISTER CHAIRMAN MY NAME IS BOB
REBIRTH READ GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS AND I'M AND TYRION ON
BEHALF OF THE VALLEY ATWATER
COALITION TODAY. LET ME FIRST.
TELL THE SHARE WITH THE CHAIR IN
THE MEMBERS THAT. THE S. THE
AUTHOR AND HER STAFF HAVE BEEN
EXTREMELY ACCOMMODATING WITH
THEIR TIME THIS YEAR AND WORKING
WITH US- WE APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THE AUTHORS-
TAKEN ON HER OWN IN RESPONSE TO
OUR CONCERNS. I JUST LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT TO REMAIN ISSUES THAT
WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HOPE TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH AND CLOSE
OUT. THE FIRST IS THE TIMING OF
A REFERRAL TO THE STATE WATER
RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD. RIGHT
NOW UNDER EXISTING LAW ON THE
WATER CODE- PARTIES CAN REQUEST
THE MISSION OF A PROPOSED
JUDGMENT BY THE COURT OR A
STIPULATED JUDGMENT THE THAT THE
PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES.
AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT WATER
RESOURCES THE- JUDICIARY RETAINS
MAN DAMOS THE AUTHORITY TO
COMPEL IF NECESSARY- TIMELY
PERFORMANCE- PURSUANT TO THE
STREAM OF THE EDUCATION
STREAMLINING LAW WHICH THAT
ALICE'S. IN YOUR COMMITTEE
INDICATES. OF SO WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE NOW TWO SEPARATE LAWS ONE
THAT SAYS THE PARTIES CAN
REQUEST APARTMENT WATER
RESOURCES TO SUBMIT ITS OPINION
IF YOU WILL AND THIS BILL THAT
SAYS THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE
STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL
BOARD FOR SIMILAR- PERFORMANCE
OF RESPONSIBILITY. WE THINK
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME-
CONSOLIDATION OF THAT AND
PERHAPS A CHANGE THE PARTY TO
WHICH- WOULD BE REQUESTED FROM
THAT THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. OF
SO. IT'S A CONCERN ABOUT DELAYS
CAN IT'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE
CONSIDERATION FOR SMALL WATER
USERS DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES-
THAT WE DON'T GET INTO
UNNECESSARY DELAY AND THAT- WE
DON'T TIP THE SCALES- FOR ONE
VERSUS THE OTHER. THANK YOU SIR
YEAH I WOULD WRAP IT UP LET ME
JUST WRAP IT UP A FINAL SENTENCE
SO THE PURPOSE OF ADJUDICATION
IS TO DETERMINE WHO HAS A RIGHT
TO EXTRACT WATER AND HOW MUCH IS
SENSUALLY. SIGMA HAS A DIFFERENT
PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO OUR
INTERNET USER MANAGEMENT ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU OTHERS WHO WERE
IN OPPOSITION. TO A. B. SEVEN
SEVEN NINE. GOOD MORNING THIS
FOR TO WHAT GROUP ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA SO OF ONE
REQUIRES OFFICER. THANK YOU.
ORGANISED CENTER KARLSSON TEARS
ON THE HAVE A CALIFORNIA PRESS
RELEASE AMERICANS SUGAR OR AND
RIGHT OF OTHER- I'M POLITICAL.
IN THE OPPOSITE OPPOSE IT WASN'T
POSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU.
THAT IS ALL THE OTHER WOULD CALL
AND ITS BEHALF OF THE CALL.
SEATED THE GREEN IF YOU SAYS
SUPPOSED AMENDED WILL THANK YOU
VERY ALL RIGHT. NOW SEEING NO
ONE ELSE APPROACH IN THE MIKE
FOR THE STERN PHONE LINE
MODERATE PLEASE OPEN THE LINES
ON AB SEVEN SEVEN NINE FOR THOSE
WHO ARE IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION. SO THEY CAN PROVIDE
THEIR NAME THEIR FILIATION AND
THEIR POSITION. THANK YOU TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO ON
YOUR TELEPHONE KEYPAD AND AT&T
SPECIALIST WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH
YOUR LINE NUMBER BY WHICH WILL
BE IDENTIFIED WHEN CALLED UPON
TO SPEAK. WILL FIRST GO TO LINE
NUMBER THIRTY TWO GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING THIS IS GAIL BILL HANNA
WITH WESTERN GROWERS AND I'M
CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER AS WELL.
HELLO GUYS WE COULD NOT BE IN
COMMITTEE THIS MORNING. HOWEVER
WE DO APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT AMENDMENTS
ALL RIGHT WHERE ARE YOU. OR ASK
FOR A POST AND WE ARE WE OPPOSE
LESSEN. OUR CAN TRAIN MEMORY
MUCH IT'LL RE ARE UP. ARE THANK
ARE. NEXT CALLER PLEASE. LINE.
NINETY THREE. LIKE NINETY THREE
A LINE IS OPEN. LINE NINETY
THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. WILL MOVE ON TO LINE
NUMBERS SEVENTY SIX. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
ROGER DICKINSON ON BEHALF OF
CIVIC WELL FORMERLY THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT COMMISSION IN
SUPPORT. THANKS VERY MUCH THANK
YOU. MISTER CHAIRMAN WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN Q. ALL RIGHT OF
BRING IT BACK TO MANY QUESTIONS
BUT CENTER LAYER. I HAVE A
COMMENT MAN THAT. AND THAT IS WE
HEARD THIS IN THE NATURAL
RESOURCES COMMITTEE AND THERE
WERE CONCERNS EXPRESSED AND
AMENDMENTS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY
ADDRESS THEM. AND ALSO I WANT TO
NOTE SINCE SENATOR GROVE IS NOT
ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT THE
SUPERVISOR THAT TESTIFIED WAS
DEEMED HER FAVORITE COUNTY
SUPERVISOR IN THAT HEARING BUT
UNFORTUNATELY HE DID NOT MOVE
HER AS FAR AS THE REST OF US
REALLY WHAT A FLIGHT. IN AND I
THINK THAT THE COMMENT IS THAT
OF THE WITNESS BROUGHT UP THE
QUIET ON THE VALLEY. AND I
BROUGHT THAT UP TO HEARING AND I
AM COMPLIMENTED THAT HE IS NOW
ENCOURAGED IN ITS TALKING POINTS
THAT IS IN MY DISTRICT BUT WE
SHARE IT THERE'S FOR COUNTIES TO
COME TOGETHER IN ONE AND THEY'RE
TO CARROT GROWERS. THAT YOU 70%
OF THAT WATER IN THAT STRESS
BASIN AND THERE ARE THE SMALL
FARMERS THAT USE ANYWHERE FROM
ONE TO TEN ACRE FEET OR- A YEAR.
WHO CONSERVE AND THE OTHERS
DON'T. AND YET UNDER THE
EDUCATION PROCESS THEY GET
CREDIT FOR. OVER USING THE 70%
WELL THE SMALL FARMERS THAT
CONSERVE OUR PENALIZED AND HAVE
TO TAKE A SHARE OF CUTS. THIS
BILL BASICALLY GIVES THEM A
VOICE SO THAT THEY ARE NOT RUN
OVER IN THE PROCESS AND THEY
HAVE A CHANCE TO CARRY THAT
INTEREST AND SO- THIS BILL
PASSED THE NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMITTEE SEVEN TO THREE. AND AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. I WILL BE
HAPPY TO MAKE COMMERCIAL. RD
THANK YOU OTHER COMMENTS. OR
QUESTIONS THAN YELLOW. THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR SO- WATER
IT. CALM YES IT IS A- THE MOST
COMPLICATED PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE
THE CALIFORNIA DEALS WITH-
SOMETIME AGO- THERE WAS A- JUDY
CATION PROCESS ESTABLISHED IN
REACTION TO. THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF A SIGMA. AND I DON'T THINK
THERE REALLY BEEN ANY COMPLETED
ADJUDICATIONS AS A RESULT OF
THAT BUT- THERE ARE A FEW THAT
ARE PENDING RIGHT RIGHT. SO WE
REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THAT
PROCESS WORKS WE COULD SAY WELL
IT'S TAKING TOO LONG BUT- THAT'S
WHAT WATER ISSUES DO RATE
INVOLVING IDW ARE ARGUABLY WILL
MAKE THAT. LENGTHY PROCESS
PERHAPS EVEN WORSE- BUT WHY NOT
LET THOSE PLAY OUT TO SEE HOW
THEY WORK BEFORE WE START-
CHANGING THANKS AGAIN. AS I LOOK
AT IT AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ARE
THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT SINCE WE
PUT THAT INTO LAW THERE ARE VERY
FEW ADJUDICATION PROCESS STARTED
AND SO WE HAVE THE FEW. BUT I
THINK THIS IS ADDRESSES ANY THAT
THEY'RE- THAT. THERE COULD BE
MORE RATE AS RELATES SAID THESE
FARMERS BEING AWARE OF THE
PROCESS AND THEN EVEN WITHIN
THOSE THE ONES THAT WOULD ALLOW
THIS BILL TO LIKE WAY INTO THAT
SO I THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY
IN THAT REGARD. TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE THIS INTO PLACE TO ENSURE
IN THE FUTURE WE'RE TAKING CARE
OF THOSE SMALL FARMERS THOSE
DISADVANTAGED FARMERS AND EVEN
WITHIN THE CURRENT PROCESS. THIS
WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE WAITED.
THIS WEEK FOR THAT. I COULD TELL
BY YOUR NODDING WHEN I ASKED THE
QUESTION YOU OBVIOUSLY TOOK THAT
INTO ACCOUNT IF YOU WERE CRAP.
BILL I APPRECIATE THAT DON'T
NECESSARILY AGREE BUT I WOULD
MAKE ONE OBSERVATION- SACRAMENTO
COUNTY- DOES NOT HAVE ANY
EDUCATION PROCESS IS GOING ON
AND PROBABLY WON'T. AND THE
REASON WHY A SEGMENT OF COUNTY
ESTABLISHED VOLUNTARILY. GROUND
WATER MANAGEMENT- ORGANIZATIONS
AS A RESULT OF THE WATER FOR
PROCESS OF QUITE A FEW YEARS
AGO- AND- THAT MAY BE THE BEST
WAY TO TRY TO ENJOY THIS NOT.
TRY TO OF- THE PROCESS NOT
DEMAND THEM BY TO IN- GROUND
WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS- IT
COULD BE A MUCH BETTER-
COLLABORATIVE APPROACH. RIGHT
AND I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE DO THINGS
WELL AND HURLEY I MEAN THAT'S A
GOOD THING AND WE DO HAVE A
BETTER STATE OF FORKLIFT MORE
PEOPLE DID THINGS VOLUNTARILY
VERSES THAT HAVE TO DO IT BE A
STATUTE BECAUSE- WE'RE VERY
DIVERSE STATE. AND A LOT OF
TIMES WHEN WE CREATE LAWS IT'S A
ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.
VERSUS NOT BEING ABLE TO BE VERY
SPECIFIC TO EACH REGION. ARM AND
SO I AGREE WITH THEM THAT POINT
THAT I WOULD LOVE THAT BUT
RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE AREAS
THAT DON'T DO IT VOLUNTARILY AND
WE DO HAVE. SMALL FARMERS AND
THERE'S THIS- WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT ENOUGH TO RESOURCES THAT
MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE HASN'T
QUOTE UNQUOTE SMALL FARMS- ARE
CONSIDERED A SMALL FARMER BUT WE
DO HAVE TO. TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THAT THERE ARE
THOSE WHO ARE DISADVANTAGED BY
THE PROCESS AND THEY DON'T HAVE
VOLUNTARY- PEOPLE WHO ARE
VOLUNTARY DOING THE WORK-
ALLOWING FOR COLLABORATIVE
ENVIRONMENT SO WE DO HAVE TO
WEIGH IN AT TIMES AT THE STATE
LEVEL. AS MUCH AS I LOVE LOCAL
CONTROL AND LOVE PEOPLE LIKE I
SAID VOLUNTEERING TO DO. THE
WORK AND WORK COLLABORATIVE
WITHOUT HAVING TO BE WEIGHED IN
BY THE GOVERNMENT- AT TIMES WE
DO HAVE. THE WAY AND I
APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW
WATER IS GOLD. AND I WISH. YOU
KNOW- WATER WAS IT AS SIMPLE AS
IT IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GOAL.
BUT IT'S NOT. AND SO WE DO HAVE
TO WITH THAT IS STATE BE ABLE
TO. IN ACCORDINGLY TO ENSURE
THAT EVERY. IS TO CARE OF AND-
THEM THERE'S- EVEN WHEN IT COMES
TO WATER THAT WE LOOK AT IT FROM
A VIEWPOINT OF EQUITY. WHISKEY
IS FOR DRINKING WATER IS FOR
FIGHTING A- AND BY THE WAY I
WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE
RECEPTION BUT I WAS WEARING PINK
YESTERDAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH I
APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU CENTER NEAR LO AYE AYE. I'M
GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE- PROVIDED
THE QUOTE TO START THE DAY
BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE. YOU'RE AT.
MORE THAN ONCE ALL RIGHT. OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CENTER
LAYERED IT WILL MOVE THE BILL
SAYS WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR THOSE
WHO ARE LISTENING IF WE HAVE ONE
MORE MEMBER- APPEARS HERE IN
ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED WE WILL
HAVE A QUORUM SO I WOULD
ENCOURAGE- STAFF MEMBERS TO
ENCOURAGE. THEIR MEMBERS TO
APPEAR HERE EVEN IF ONLY
MOMENTARILY. ALL RIGHT- WOULD
LIKE CLOSE. I WOULD THINK YOU
MISTER CHAIR I WOULD JUST LIKE
TO NOTE FROM- YOU KNOW
OPPOSITION THAT WE DEFINITELY
HAVE BEEN HAVING LOTS OF
CONVERSATIONS. OVER THE LIFE OF
THIS BILL AND I APPRECIATED THE
BRING THE CONCERNS BECAUSE I'VE
ALWAYS. YOU ARE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS TO TRY TO. MITIGATE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF
REBEL- THERE WERE TWO ITEMS
NOTED FROM OUR PRIMARY
OPPOSITION IN REGARD- TO ADD
DELAYS. AND NOTING THAT. YOU
KNOW THE JUDGE AND PART OF THIS
BILL SAYS THE JUDGE MAY REFER
MATTERS TO THE WATER BOARD- THIS
WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WE TOOK
FROM JUDICIAL COUNCIL. IT WON'T
CAUSE DELAYS BECAUSE IT'S DURING
THE FACT FINDING PROCESS. AND
NOT NEAR THE END OF THE PROCESS.
AND IN REGARD TO THE OTHER PART.
THE OTHER- NOTED. I'M CONCERNED.
IS THE WATER USED TO SMALL
FARMERS AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES- HAVE BEEN
CONSIDERED THAT LANGUAGE IN
PARTICULAR. IT MAKES IT SEEM
LIKE- FROM THE OPPOSITION POINT
OF VIEW. THAT IT UNFAIRLY
ELEVATES THOSE COMMUTE THOSE
COMMUNITIES AND THAT WAS NOT THE
INTENTION- WE WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THAT- IT WAS. CLARIFIED
THAT ALL THE OTHER ITEMS IN OUR
WILL AND ONE THROUGH THREE- IN
THE SECTION EIGHT FIFTY A ARE
JUST AS EQUAL CONSIDERATION OF
SMALL FARMERS AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND THAT IS THE
LANGUAGE THAT HAS BEEN AMENDED-
WHICH WILL HELP. ADDRESS THOSE
FINAL CONCERNS OF. THE
OPPOSITION THAT WE AGREE TO-
ADDRESS AND SO WITHOUT AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. YOU KNOW I
APPRECIATE- SENATORS FLARED UP
FUTURE MOTIONED- BUT I WOULD
APPRECIATE AN AYE VOTE BECAUSE
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND IT
DOES IMPROVE THIS PROCESS ON
BEHALF OF OUR SMALL FARMERS AND
HELPS ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT
DISPLACING. THESE IMPORTANT
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OUR RIGHT
THANK YOU- I'M GOING TO ANNOUNCE
A FEW OTHER HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS
THEY WERE GOING TO TURN TO YOUR
NEXT BILL. SO AFTER ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WILSON PRESENTS ITEM
NUMBER TWO EIGHT SIX EIGHT THEN-
WE'RE GOING TO- ALLOW ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HOLDEN. OH OH I'M SORRY
AND AS WELL AS A B. FOURTEEN
SEVENTY TWO THEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER
HOLDEN- ITEM NUMBER THREE A. B.
SIX FOUR SEVEN AS THOSE OF YOUR
LISTING HEARD A. B. TWELVE
TWENTY EIGHT- IS NOT GOING TO BE
HEARD TODAY. THEN WILL TURN TO
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ADDIS RUN NUMBER
FIVE. THIS AFTERNOON- WE'RE
GOING TO BREAK AT NOON FOR OF
THE RESPECTIVE CAUCUSES- THEY'LL
BE OF SPECIAL ORDER AT ONE
THIRTY THIS AFTERNOON. AND. SO
FIRST THEN WILL BEGIN WITH
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MAIN SHINES OF
HIS BILLS AND JUDICIARY'S BILLS
AT ONE THIRTY ALL RIGHT. OF NEXT
IN ORDER ITEM NUMBER TWO A. B.
EIGHT SIX EIGHT. THANK YOU SO AB
A. SIX EIGHT THIS IS THE DIGITAL
ADVERTISEMENT TRANSPARENCY
ACCOUNTABILITY ACT. THIS WILL
CREATE A CENTRALIZED SEARCHABLE
AND USER FRIENDLY PUBLIC RECORD
OF DIGITAL CAMPAIGN
ADVERTISEMENT THAT APPEAR ACROSS
MULTIPLE ONLINE PLATFORMS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAMPAIGN OR
ELECTION. THIS BILL WOULD
REQUIRE ALL DIGITAL ADS PAID FOR
CAMPAIGN COMMITTEES AND
SPECIFIED INFORMATION ABOUT
THESE ADS TO BE SUBMITTED TO
FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES
COMMISSION ALSO KNOWN AS F. PPC.
CAMPAIGN COMMITTEES MUST BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTENT THEY
PRODUCE FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.
LET ME FIRST EXPLAIN WHY THIS
NOW AB TWENTY ONE EIGHTY EIGHT
SIGNED INTO LAW ON TWENTY
EIGHTEEN MAKES ONLINE PLATFORMS
RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING
CERTAIN DIGITAL ADS THAT APPEAR
ON THEIR PLATFORMS. AB EIGHT SIX
EIGHT MAINTAINS THAT
RESPONSIBILITY AT STATUS QUO
WITH AN ADJUSTMENT TO TRANSFER
THE DATA TO THE FBC. VERSES
THEIR OWN ONLINE DATABASE ONCE
ENACTED AB EIGHT SIX EIGHT WOULD
HAVE CAMPAIGN COMMITTEES
RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING ALL
OTHER DIGITAL ADS. COMMITTEES BE
REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THEIR ADS
ONLY IF THEY SPEND A THOUSAND OR
MORE ON DIGITAL ADS DURING A
CAMPAIGN STATEMENT REPORTING
PERIOD. AND THE INFORMATION
WOULD BE DO ALONG THE SAME
DEADLINES AS CAMPAIGN STATEMENT
. THIS EASILY PUBLIC RESOURCE
WILL PROVIDE VOTERS WITH MORE.
INFORMATION ABOUT CAMPAIGN
ACTIVITY INCLUDING THE MESSAGING
USED BY CAMPAIGNS AND THE AMOUNT
AND SOURCES OF MONEY SPENT ON
ADS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
VARIOUS CAMPAIGNS. IT WILL ALSO
PROVIDE GREATER TRANSPARENCY IN
OUR ONGOING FIGHT TO REDUCE
MISINFORMATION DISINFORMATION
AND THE POLITICAL DISCOURSE. NOW
MY OFFICE HAS WORKED CLOSELY
WITH NOT ONLY SENATE ELECTION
COMMITTEE STAFF BUT WITH
CALIFORNIA CLEAN MONEY CAMPAIGN
AND PPC TO ATTEMPT TO COME UP
WITH THE BEST. VERSION OF THIS
BILL POSSIBLE. I ALSO UNDERSTAND
THIS HAS BROUGHT ON CONCERN FROM
THE PLATFORMS. HOWEVER AS WE
MAKE OUR WAY THROUGH THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WE WILL
CONTINUE TO DISCUSSION TO
ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS. AS I
NOTED AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR
MARKS I HAVE MAINTAINED FROM THE
MOMENT I INTRODUCED THIS BILL.
IT IS MY FIRM BELIEF THAT
CAMPAIGN COMMITTEES SHOULD
SHOULDER THE ULTIMATE
RESPONSIBILITY. LIABILITY FOR
THE CONTENT THEY PRODUCE WITH ME
TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER IS
LINDSEY MCCONNELL. FROM FAIR
POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
MORNING MR KAREN COMMITTEE MANY
MUSLIMS IN A CONDO WITH THE OF
PPC THE FOR POLITICAL PRACTICES
COMMISSION. IF THE COMMISSION
HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW
THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENTS TO AB
EIGHT SIX EIGHT BUT I HAVE A
STATEMENT FROM. ARE THE CHAIR
THE COMMISSION RICHARD MANAGE
AND THAT WAS ALSO COSIGNED BY
FCC COMMISSIONER ABBY WOULD. ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA FAIR
POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION
WE WANT TO THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WILSON FOR STEWARDSHIP OF AB
EIGHT SIX EIGHT WHICH WOULD
ENACT THE DIGITAL ADVERTISEMENT
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
ACT. BILLS BASED ON THE
RECOMMENDATIONS MADE MADE BY THE
F. PPC'S DIGITAL TRANSPARENCY
TASK FORCE WHICH BROUGHT
TOGETHER ACADEMICS
REPRESENTATIVES OF GOOD
GOVERNMENT GROUPS CAMPAIGN
PROFESSIONALS AND REGULATORS.
SOUGHT TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO
IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY OF DIGITAL
POLITICAL ADS WE BELIEVE AB
EIGHT SIX EIGHT WOULD
UNQUESTIONABLY IMPROVE VOTERS
ABILITY TO KNOW WHO IS BEHIND.
THE MANY FORMS OF DIGITAL
POLITICAL ADS THAT HAVE BECOME
SO UBIQUITOUS IN OUR LIVES. AND
TO HOLD THOSE PERSONS OR GROUPS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE CONTENT OF
THOSE ADVERTISEMENTS. EARLIER
THIS YEAR THE F. PPC VOTED TO
SUPPORT AND SPONSOR AB EIGHT SIX
EIGHT AS INTRODUCED WE BELIEVE
THE RECENT AMENDMENTS TO AB
EIGHT SIX THEY ARE FULLY
CONSISTENT BUT WITH BOTH WITH
THE RECOMMENDATIONS. BY THE F.
B. B. C.'S DIGITAL TRANSPARENCY
TASK FORCE. AS WELL AS THE
COMMISSION'S GOALS IN SUPPORTING
AND SPONSORING AB EIGHT SIX
EIGHT. IN FACT WE BELIEVE THE
AMENDMENTS WILL IMPROVE UPON THE
TASK FORCE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND
FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE
TRANSPARENCY OF SPENDING ON
DIGITAL POLITICAL ADVERTISING.
WE THEREFORE WHOLEHEARTEDLY
SUPPORT AB EIGHT SIX EIGHT AS
AMENDED AND LOOK FORWARD TO
RECOMMENDING THAT OUR COLLEAGUES
AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
IN AUGUST. BUT TO CONTINUE
SUPPORTING THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION THANK YOU AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH BEFORE WE TAKE
OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES- WE'RE
GOING TO ESTABLISH THE EVER
ELUSIVE QUORUM MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR
PROCESSING QUORUM. AMBERG YOUR
HONOR KERR WELL CREDIT. WILL
PRESENT ALAN. ASHLEY CABALLERO.
RUSSELL WHERE'D YOU WHERE'D HERE
MEN. MEN HERE NEW LOW HERE NEW
LOW HERE STERN. STERN HERE
WIENER. YOU A CORE WE HAVE A
HORRIBLE JUST JUST TO THAT WE
HAVE FULL. OF A- AND LACKING
THEM. HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM.
ALL RIGHT OF FOR THE WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OF AB. EIGHT SIX
EIGHT. THING KNOWN APPROACH BY
THE WESTERN OPPOSITION
OPPOSITION AB EIGHT SIX STATES
PLEASE PRESS THE MICROPHONE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR NUMBERS
THE ANY TALKING WITH NECK
TECHNET AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED TO EIGHTY EIGHT SIXTY.
TECH THAT HAD NO POSITION ON THE
PRIOR VERSION OF THIS BILL AND
OUR OPPOSITION IS BASED ONLY ON
THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENTS THAT
WOULD REQUIRE ONLINE PLATFORMS
TO REPORT ON BEHALF OF
CANDIDATES AND COMMITTEES. IF
THE GOAL OF THE BILL IS TO
ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY FOR CANDIDATES OR
COMMITTEES THAT ARE ENGAGING IN
POLITICAL SPEECH THEY SHOULD
RETAIN THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF
REPORTING BASIC INFORMATION
ABOUT THE SPEECH. INSTEAD THIS
BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE REPORTING
TO BE DONE BY THE ONLINE
PLATFORMS THAT ARE HOSTING THAT
THIRD PARTY CONTENT. THOSE WHO
PREFER MOVING REPORTING
RESPONSIBILITY OVER TO ONLINE
PLATFORMS APPOINTED TO THE
HARDSHIP THAT SMALLER OR LESS
POLITICALLY SOPHISTICATED
COMMITTEES MAY FACE AND
SUBMITTING THEIR REPORTS. IF THE
COMMITTEE HAS DEVELOPED AN AD
PLACED THE AD AND FUNDED THE AD
WE BELIEVE THEY ARE ALSO CAPABLE
OF REPORTING ON THOSE ADS.
FURTHERMORE THIS SHOULDN'T BE
ABOUT ALLEVIATING THE BURDEN BY
SHIFTING IT TO ANOTHER ENTITY IT
SHOULD BE ABOUT THE PUBLIC GOOD
THE VALUE OF KNOWING THAT THOSE
ENGAGING IN POLITICAL SPEECH
ONLINE ARE BEING PROPERLY HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT. THE
COMMITTEE IS UNWILLING TO DO SO
THAT IN ITSELF RAISES
SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. IN
ADDITION PLATFORMS VERY IN THEIR
PROCESSES FOR APPROVING IN
PLACING ADS ON THEIR SITES. AND
THIS PROCESS IS NOT ALWAYS
ENTIRELY AUTOMATIC OR
STREAMLINED ESPECIALLY FOR
SMALLER PLATFORMS. PLACING THE
REPORTING BURDEN ON PLATFORMS
ONLY CREATE. ADDITIONAL FRICTION
TO THAT PROCESS. AGAIN IN ORDER
TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY AND
PROMOTE ETHICAL BEHAVIOR WE
BELIEVE THE REPORTING SHOULD
RIGHTLY COME FROM THE COMMITTEES
THEMSELVES. WERE BEING MONITORED
FOR ENGAGING IN POTENTIALLY
QUESTIONABLE PRACTICES. IF THIS
REQUIREMENT WAS SHIFTED BACK
OVER TO THOSE COMMITTEES TECHNET
WOULD REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION. WE
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE RECENT
CONVERSATION WITH THEIR OFFICE
ON OUR CONCERN AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THOSE
MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION. THING NO ONE
APPROACHED MIKE FROM THE STRAINS
PHONE LINES. MATER PLEASE QUEUE
UP THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION AB EIGHT SIX EIGHT.
HIS BIGGEST. OR UP THE- PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. WILL
FIRST GO TO LINE SIXTY TWO. YES
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
JACQUELINE DU I'M A PUBLIC
HEALTH ADVOCATE LIVE IN
SACRAMENTO AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS. BILL THANK YOU.
LINE. FOURTEEN HELLO MY NAME IS
MARY EVAN. AND I LIVE IN AND THE
TAIL AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT AB
EIGHT SIXTY EIGHT. THANK YOU.
LINE. FORTY SEVEN. I PROVIDING
CALIFORNIA CLEAN MONEY CAMPAIGN
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. BY
. THIRTY FIVE. WATER STREET IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. BONDS
LIQUORS CLEAN MONEY VOLUNTEERS
FROM PETALUMA IN SUPPORT OF AB.
SIXTY EIGHT. LINE TWENTY FIVE.
HE NANCY NELSON TELEHEALTH IN
SUPPORT. LINE EIGHTY EIGHT.
SURELY A ONE DOLLAR FEE FROM
PLEASANT HILL- CONSTRUCT LEVINE
ISN'T IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE
. ONE OH SIX. WHICH MEANT FROM
SAN FRANCISCO IN THE BRONX
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. BY. NINETY
THREE. JEFF CURRY GEAR
SACRAMENTO. ADVOCATE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. FIVE FIFTY SEVEN. DAN
LANDER SACRAMENTO STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. LINE EIGHTY SEVEN.
BANGLE ON BACK WITH THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
IN OPPOSITE THANK YOU. LINE.
THIRTY FOUR. THE OVERALL STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE. THIRTY
ONE. THAT IS FROM OAKLAND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. NINE THIRTY
NINE. BUT THE BATTERY
INDIVISIBLE MORAN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. NINE FIFTY ONE. PAT
LANG LOS ALTOS HILLS STRONG
SUPPORT. LINE. THIRTEEN THIS IS
MAINLINE YES SIR GO AHEAD
MICHAEL LEVINSON DALY CITY ALSO
WITH CLEAN MONEY STRONG SUPPORT
. MISTER CALDERON OFFER THE
LINES IN Q. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS
CENTER STERN TH IF THANK MISTER-
THANK YOU FOR THE LEGISLATION
AND- TRYING TO GET A HOLD ON THE
WILD WEST OUT THERE- IT IS
THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING AND IT'S
MOVING FASTER THAN. OFTEN WE CAN
TRACKING THINGS APPEAR AND
DISAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR AND
THERE'S A LOT OF. THERE'S A LOT
OF RISK RIGHT NOW IN THE SYSTEM
AROUND ELECTORAL SECURITY
BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF
MISINFORMATION IS BEING PUSHED
AND FRANKLY BECAUSE THE
PLATFORMS THEMSELVES ON THE NOT
PAID SIDE. AT LEAST THEY ARGUE
HAVE THEIR HANDS TIED AND SO IF
YOU SEE CONTENT- THAT'S IN THE
NOT PAID SPACE IN CAMPAIGNS BE
WILD AND UNRULY AS IT IS. AT
LEAST IN THIS SPACE WHERE WE
HAVE SOME RULES THAT IT JUST
MAKE SURE THAT THE REGULATORS
HAVE TOOLS TO ENFORCE THE RULES
I MEAN THAT'S- THAT'S HOW I LOOK
AT YOUR YOUR LEGISLATION I AM. I
AM WONDERING I WANT TO GET YOUR
TAKE ON. AT THE END OF COMMON
CAUSE HAD A POSITION THAT THEY
DIDN'T WANT THE POLITICAL
COMMITTEES TO SORT OF FEEL THAT
BURDEN NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
OPPOSITION'S CONCERN THAT THE
PLATFORMS ARE GOING TO FEEL TOO
MUCH BURDEN- HI. HOW ARE YOU
RESULT LIKE IN THEIR MOST RECENT
AMENDMENTS I GUESS HAVE YOU
BROUGHT. AS IS COMMON BECAUSE
NOW. PART OF THE CURRENT
FRAMEWORK THE ANALYSIS SAYS THAT
THEY THEY WANTED MORE-
RESPONSIBILITY AT LEAST ON THE
PLATFORM TO RECEIVE THAT THE AD
PAYMENTS BUT THEN. HEARING THE
TECH INDUSTRY'S SAY THAT THAT
ALREADY IS THE CASE SO YEAH CAN
YOU JUST HELP CLARIFY
ABSOLUTELY. SO THE M. THE
CURRENT STATUS QUO THE CURRENT
LAW SAYS THAT THE- THE TECH
COMPANIES N. SIX IN PARTICULAR
THAT CAN COUNT THE BIG SIX ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING- THERE
WELL I SHOULDN'T SAY REPORTING
BUT COLLECTING AND HOLDING IN
THE DATABASE. THE DIGITAL ADDS
THAT THEY RECEIVE REVENUE FROM
SAID THAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS
QUO OF YOU KNOW WHERE WE EXISTS
RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. SO MY BILL
ORIGINALLY INTRODUCED
TRANSFERRED THE WHOLE OF THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMITTEES
ARE CAMPAIGN- BECAUSE I YOU KNOW
LIKE I NOTED FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT
THERE WILL ULTIMATELY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INFORMATION
THEY PUT OUT IN IN THE WORLD AND
THEY ARE. THEY'RE PRODUCING IT
RIGHT THEY'RE CREATING IT. AND
SO THROUGH COMPROMISE- THROUGH
THE ELECTION WE GOT THROUGH THIS
PROCESS AS WE CONTINUALLY IN MY
OFFICE WE ALWAYS WORK WITH
OPPONENTS TO FIGURE OUT. LIKE
OKAY WHAT THE ISSUE IS A REAL
ISSUE IS THAT YOU KNOW IS A
VALID OKAY HOW DO WE THEN
MITIGATE THAT- THERE THERE WAS
CONCERN THAT THEY HAD A FOUGHT
HARD FOR THAT ORIGINAL-
TRANSPARENCY- BY HAVING THE BIG
SIX TO DO THAT AND THAT THERE
WOULD THIS BE. UNDER UNDUE
BURDEN ON- SMALLER CAMPAIGNING
COMMITTEES. NOW I HAD ISSUE WITH
THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE PRODUCING
IT RIGHT- AND BUT I ALSO
RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST
TIME THAT WE'RE HAVING
COMMITTEES OR CAMPAIGNS. PRODUCE
ANY CONTENT BOMB WE USUALLY JUST
HAVE THEM PUT THEIR REVENUE AND
EXPENSES THAT'S ALL WE DID HAVE
A REPORT ON THEIR- YOU KNOW
TRANSACTIONS BUT WE DON'T
ACTUALLY HAVE THEM TURN IN
ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING.
SO THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME IS IT OKAY AND THEN
AT THE END RESULT- AS FOR. A
CONSTITUENT OR THOSE WERE
HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THE
END RESULT IS FULL TRANSPARENCY.
AND IS NOW ON AT BBC I CAN SAY
LAURIE WILSON WHAT SHE PRODUCED
DURING THIS PERIOD THE TIME THAT
SHE SPENT THE MONEY NOT ON SOME
ONLINE DATABASE SOMEWHERE ELSE I
CAN GO RIGHT THERE. AND SEE THE
ODDS THAT SHE PRODUCED IN REAL
AND NOT IN REAL TIME BUT IN
REPORTING TIME RIGHT. AND. BE
ABLE TO TELL WHETHER SHE'S YOU
KNOW PUT OUT MISS. OR SAYING
THING THE ONE. OR WHATEVER AND
HOLE. HER ACCOUNT OF AS OF A
RIGHT. AND SO WOULD ALLOW THAT
FOR ME I. IT A WIN FOR.
CONSTITUENTS AND THOSE WHO HOLD
ACCOUNTABLE AND ALSO RECOGNIZE
THAT PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS IS COMPROMISING WORKING
THROUGH AND GIVING TIMES
THREATENING TO BREAK WE WERE
JUST TALKING ABOUT LIKE. THEY
DID OCCASION PROCESS AND HOW.
GIVING TIME FOR SOMETHING TO
BAKE INTO THIS GIVES IT TIME FOR
COMMITTEES TOOK START THE
PRACTICE. OF SUBMITTING DOING
SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD
TO DO- AND THEN AT THE SAME
TIME- KEEPING THE STATUS QUO IN
THE LAW. AND THEN YOU KNOW I'LL
BE HONEST FOR ME AS A AS AN
AUTHOR. I WANT THE FULL BURDEN
ON THE ON ON THE COMMITTEE BUT
THROUGH THIS PROCESS SOMETIMES
YOU COMPROMISE AND- AS LONG AS
THE END GOAL IS THE SAME WHICH
THE END GOAL AS- OUR
CONSTITUENTS. ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THEY
GET FULL TRANSPARENCY. AND SO
HOPEFULLY YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE ME
BACK. WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT
YOU DON'T. FULLY TRANSFER THAT
BURDEN BECAUSE I DO THINK AT THE
END OF THE DAY MY CORE BELIEFS
AS- IF YOU PRODUCE THE CONTENT
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
CONTENT. AND YOU ARE IN THE BEST
POSITION. TO BE ABLE TO REPORT
THAT CONTENT JUST LIKE WE HAVE
NO ONE ELSE REPORT YOUR
FINANCES. SO WELL AND- MR IF YOU
DON'T MIND I WHAT I READ FROM
HOW THE BUILDINGS OPERATES RIGHT
NOW COURT IN ALICE THIS IS THAT
. THERE WILL BE A- LIKE APPOINT
A TRAIN. BETWEEN THAT PLATFORM
AND THE CAMPAIGN WHEN THAT IS UP
LOADED IN SENTENCE OMITTED
RIGHT. DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE
YOU KNOW THEY'RE SAYING OR
MULTIPLE VETTING PROTOCOLS THERE
BUT WHAT. AT THAT POINT A
TRANSACTION MY ASSUMPTION IS
SOME WILL COME UP WITH A BUTTON.
THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS
YOU CHECK YEAH AND AT THE SAME
EXACT MOMENT THAT THEY'RE ASKING
TO PUT THIS AD OUT IN THE
UNIVERSE. THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO
BE CONSENTING TO A TRANSFER.
RIGHT OF SOME SORT THEY
CURRENTLY ALREADY TO COMMEMORATE
IT CURRENTLY EXISTS IT'S NOW
JUST ONE ON MY THE ONLY CHANGE
IN LAW FOR ATTACK. ONLINE
PLATFORM IS INSTEAD OF. HOLDING
IT IN THEIR OWN DATABASE.
THEY'RE SENDING IT. OUT TO SEA
AND RIGHT NOW THEY GET THEY THEY
WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT COMPILING
LAW SO YEAH SO IT WOULD JUST BE.
AUTOMATIC ASSOCIATED I'M START
BUILDING CONSENT TO THAT
TRANSFER IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT
GONNA NATIONALLY NEED A WHOLE
CLUNKY EXTRA STEP RIGHT OKAY.
EVEN FOR THE CAMPAIGNS
THEMSELVES WHO YOU WANT. WE WANT
TO PUSH OURSELVES AND EVERYONE
ELSE IN. THE OWN WHAT THEY PUT
OUT IN THE WORLD- THEY'LL BE
DOING THAT. YOU KNOW IT'LL MAKE
IT CRYSTAL CLEAR YOU PUT YOUR
MONEY DOWN AND YOU'RE SAYING
ALSO. PEOPLE GONNA KNOW. AT THE
F. B. B. C. THAT I PUT THIS OUT
THERE AND PEOPLE MORE THAN WHAT
YOU'RE TARGETING. BECAUSE THAT'S
THE ISSUE WITH THE DIGITAL ADS
IS THAT IT'S ABOUT. TARGETING
LIKE I WANT YOU KNOW WOMEN OVER
FIFTY WHO OWN CATS. AND NOW LIKE
RIGHT NO WOMEN UNDER FORTY WHO
DON'T OWN CATS ARE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO SEE THAT OUT IF THEY
WANT TO. RIGHT BUT THEY AND WILL
THEY KNOW THE TARGET WILL THEY
KNOW ANY OF THAT. INFORMATION TO
YOU KNOW WHO WAS TARGETED YES
THAT'S PART OF THAT WHAT THEY
HAVE TO REPORT AS WHO WAS TARGET
SOMEONE I GO BUY AN OUT AS A
CAMPAIGN. I TELL THEM. YOU KNOW
MOST YEAR ADDS TO BE HONEST OUR-
AND MOST OF YOUR ADS ON MY- GOOD
ACTORS ARE REALLY BROAD GREAT
ALL VOTERS OVER EIGHTEEN WHO
LIVE IN MY DISTRICT THAT KIND OF
THING BUT WE SEE ESPECIALLY
WITH. MISINFORMATION
DISINFORMATION WE SEE THIS
MICROTARGETING. TO SPECIFIC
PEOPLE AND THEN WE SEE THE EXACT
. OPPOSITE INFORMATION
MICROTARGETING IT'S SOMEBODY
ELSE AND SAID. REALLY THAT OF IT
THAT'S NOT THE- PART OF IT THE
WHOLE PART IT IS TRANSFER. BY
PART OF IT IS TO STOP THOSE KIND
OF THING HAPPENING BECAUSE
THAT'S HOW WE GET. THIS INTO OUR
POLITICAL DIVIDE IS PEOPLE ARE
FEEDING INTO MISINFORMATION
DIFFERENT FORMATION YOU KNOW TO
THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND I WOULD
JUST. THE LAST THING IS A IS YET
TO BE SEEN NOW IS TAKING ON. A
NEW. RESPONSIBILITY YES- IN A
WAY AND SO I'M I'M JUST CURIOUS-
FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE I KNOW
THERE. THEY HAVE A VOTE ON THAT
THE AMENDED VERSION BUT- ARE
THEY READY TO. TAKE OFF I MEAN
THAT STATEMENT EVALUATION PART
OF THINGS I DON'T KNOW IF THE
COUNCIL STILL HERE BUT I WAS
CURIOUS JUST INTERESTING AT THIS
CAME FROM A PPC SAID THIS IS
PART OF THEIR PROCESS THAT THEY
DID THE AUDIT AND THEN THEY SAID
AND SERVE THIS ACTUALLY- IN SOME
WAYS IS. A LITTLE LESS
BURDENSOME FOR THEM THAN THE
ORIGINAL BILL BECAUSE THEY ALL.
WE HAVE THIS BURDEN ON ONLINE
PLATFORMS AND OF COURSE THE WAY
THEY AGGREGATE INPUTS DATA. IS
THERE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN A
CAMPAIGN DOING IT SO IT ACTUALLY
IS A LITTLE. LESS LEARN IS THAT
ROSS IS IT PUTS IT IT'LL PUT IT
IN A NICE PACKAGE FOR THEM. YEAH
I'LL BE SUPPORT WITH THE BILL
TODAY I'M HOPING. WE CAN GET-
JUST SOME SOME INPUT ABOUT THE
ADMINISTRATION SIDE AND TO KNOW-
WHAT. WHAT THAT EVALUATION
PROCESS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE IN IN
REALITY BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL
PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK TO. FIND
SOME YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS IS
PERSONNEL YOU KNOW THE SENATE
TAKES TIME KIND OF. ANYWAY I'M
I'M GLAD YOU'RE COMMITTING US TO
THIS I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
LEADERSHIP HERE THINKING- AND
I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTIONS.
ALL RIGHT CENTER STERN'S MOVE
THE BILL QUESTIONS COMMENTS THAT
ARE IN THE YELLOW. THANK YOU
MISTER- TARGETING.
DEMOGRAPHICALLY AND
PSYCHOGRAPHIC LEE IN IN- THE
EFFORT TO PROMOTE. ANYTHING
RIGHT IS NOT AT ALL NO. YES
IT'S- THAT HAPPENED ABOUT AS
LONG AS ADVERTISING HAS HAPPENED
THAT HAS BECOME MORE
SOPHISTICATED AS- MEDIA. OUTLETS
HAVE. EVOLVED DIRECT MAIL. YOU
CAN TARGET ON A MORE BROAD BASIS
BUT NONE THE LESS YOU CAN TARGET
. YOU CAN SEND ONE MAILER TO
REPUBLICANS THAT TALKS ABOUT. AB
AND C. FACTUALLY INCORRECTLY.
AND YOU CAN TARGET- DEMOCRATS-
SEPARATELY THE TALK ABOUT D. E.
AND F. FACTUALLY AND SEPARATELY
. NOW IS THAT MISINFORMATION
DISINFORMATION IT DEPENDS ON
THE- EAR OF THE BEHOLDER RIGHT
YEAH- T. V. EXCUSE ME RADIO- YOU
CAN ALSO- TARGET- TO
CONSERVATIVE MORE LIBERAL SHOWS-
CABLE TV. HAS OFFERED
ADVERTISERS THE ABILITY TO EVEN
MORE CLOSELY. A TARGET- AND SO.
THERE'S NOTHING NEW HERE. WHY
DON'T YOU INCLUDE DIRECT MAIL TV
RADIO ETCETERA. SO IT
PARTICULARLY DIRECT MAIL YOU
ACTUALLY HAVE A PHYSICAL
EVIDENCE OF THAT AND IT'S A LOT
MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE SAME THING
WITH TV NOT SO MUCH WITH RADIO
RADIO IS STILL AT AN EXPENSIVE
MEDIUM- YOU CAN RECORD IT ON
YOUR OWN RATE YOU CAN- RECORDED
TV. YOU CAN RECORD- YOU KNOW
BECAUSE MOST OF US HAVE DVR AND
YOU KNOW OR YOU KNOW IF IT'S
DISEASED RECALL DEMAND
INDIVIDUAL YES THEY INDIVIDUAL
CAN'T AYE GOOD CONSIDERING CAN'T
BEAR WITH THE COPS THAT DATA.
AND SO WE GET TO DID BECAUSE IT
IS SO HARD TO CAPTURE DIGITAL.
ADS ON THE COME UP VERY. ARMIES
IT AND YOU KNOW IT TAKES THE
PICS A FEW STEPS TO DO EITHER A
SCREEN CAPTURE OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT AND SO WE STARTED THERE IN
THE SENSE ONE THAT WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION BUT TO I AFFIRM
THAT BECAUSE- DIGITAL ADS ARE
JUST SO HARD TO CAPTURE AND
THEY'RE REALLY CHEAP. YOU KNOW
THEY'RE VERY INEXPENSIVE M. TO
PRODUCE ANY SO YOU CAN BE THINK
ABOUT IF YOU CAN SPEND A
THOUSAND DOLLARS YOU CAN SPENT
YOU KNOW YOU CAN TARGET A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WAYS. AND SO PART OF
IT IS BECAUSE THE AND EXPENSIVE
AS TO. HOW DEEP IT IS TO DO
DIGITAL ADS AND AS WELL AS HOW
THEY DON'T EXIST FOR THAT TIME
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IT'S
USUALLY. YOU KNOW- THREE THREE
TO FIVE SECONDS FOR AN
IMPRESSION IT'S NOT IT'S NOT
THAT MUCH AND IT GOES IN YOU GET
REPEATEDLY YOU KNOW HOW TO
CAPTURE IT BUT FOR THE MOST
PART. IT'S GONE AND SO YOU CAN'T
DO THAT COMPARISON LIKE YOU
COULD IF YOU GOT A MAIL YEAH
THERE'S SO MANY HOUSEHOLDS. THE
PEOPLE ARE REGISTER DIFFERENTLY
JUST TO SEE THE TYPE OF MAIL
THEY GET. AND I THINK THAT IT'S
OKAY TO TARGET AN AUDIENCE RATE
AND YOU DO WANT I MEAN WE ALL
FEEL BETTER WE GET AT THAT WE
CARE ABOUT YOU KNOW- BUT- AT THE
SAME TIME WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE.
YES HOLY LINE RATE WHICH
MISINFORMATION AND
DISINFORMATION IS ABOUT DECEIT
NOT RECOGNIZING THE MULTIFACETED
OF A CAMPAIGN OR COMMITTEE. TO
BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IN MANY
DIFFERENT. WAYS TO MANY
DIFFERENT PEOPLE. BECAUSE IT THE
IN OF THE YEAR REP. ALL THE
PEOPLE. SO OKAY BY IT IS OKAY.
YOU THIS INFORM MISINFORMED
PEOPLE TO USE. DIGITAL MEDIA TO
BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT
ISN'T EXPENSIVE AND IT. AND
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT YOU DID
THAT AND WHICH WE SAW DEFINITELY
THE TWENTY SIXTEEN CAMPAIGN.
THANK YOU FUNDED WANT ONE SECOND
BEFORE I I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE
OKAY WHEN TO TURN OVER THE
CHAIRMANSHIP TO- CENTER LAYERED.
THERE'S ONLY THIRTY TWO BILLS
LEFT SO. EARLIER MY EXPECTATION
IS YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE
FINISHED BY THE TIME I RETURN
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. JUST GOT ONE LAST
COMMENT SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD
TO MISINFORMATION AND
DISINFORMATION- MENTION THE
TWENTY SIXTEEN CAMPAIGN- GOING
BACK WELL WHEN I WAS HERE
BEFORE- WE DIDN'T.
MISINFORMATION DISINFORMATION
WAS NOT TERMS THAT I COMMONLY
HEARD WE DO NOW. IT IS BECOME
PREVALENT- SINK TWENTY SIXTEEN
AND PARTICULARLY SINCE THE
PANDEMIC YES AND WHAT'S CHILLING
ABOUT THIS IS WHO'S GOING TO
DEFINE. WHAT MISINFORMATION AND
DISINFORMATION IS NOT EXPECTING
AN ANSWER THIS IS REALLY A
COMMENT. BECAUSE AS TIME HAS
GONE BY WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE
FELT. A WERE STATEMENTS OF
MISINFORMATION OR
DISINFORMATION- SUBSEQUENTLY
HAVE BEEN PROVEN. NOT TO BE-
QUITE SELL SO- HERE SHE WHO
DEFINES WHAT MISINFORMATION OR
DISINFORMATION AT A PARTICULAR
TIME- MAYOR AND I'VE BEATEN
THERE MAY NOT BE CORRECT. AND
THAT CAN CONTAMINATE THIS WHOLE
APPROACH AND I AGREE WITH YOU
AND I WILL NOTE THAT THIS
PARTICULAR BILL DOES NOT PUT
THAT BURDEN ON FEC IT JUST MAKES
THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE SO
IT'S UP FOR THE INDIVIDUAL
PERSON WHO IS VOTING FOR THAT
CAMPAIGN. OR COMMITTEE OR YOU
KNOW- CANDIDATES TO DECIDE BASED
ON THE INFORMATION RECEIVED
WHETHER THEY FEEL LIKE THAT THEY
SHOULD CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR THAT
PERSON AND SO. I WE
INTENTIONALLY DID NOT PUT IT AND
THAT THERE WAS A FLAGGING UP OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT ALL IT IS.
CREATING TRANSPARENCY SO THAT
SOMEONE CAN SEE ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT SOMEBODY PUTS OUT.
OR CAMPAIGN AND DETERMINE IF
THEY SOMEONE VOTE FOR THAT
PERSON. LIKE EVERYBODY LEFT.
YOU'RE STILL RUNS SORRY I'M SO
SORRY NOTICES. LOVELY THREE
SENATORS BIRDS DOES COME YOUR-
COMMENTS ARE THERE ANY FURTHER-
COMMENTS ARE. SINGING WE HAVE A
MOTION SO YOU MAY CLOSE. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE I THINK THAT THE ART MY
DICK LINDSAY FROM A FIFTY C. AS
WELL AS THE GREAT DISCUSSION
HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH THEN
WE'RE GONNA. ASK FOR CALL OF THE
ROLE. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWO AB EIGHT SIX EIGHT THE
MOTIONS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ON
BURKE. WILK ALAN. ASHBY
CABALLERO RUSSELL LAYERED HI
LAYERED I AM IN. WHEN I IN THE
LOW. THE LOAN STERN. WHEN YOU
HAVE TO DO ONE THANK YOU WILL
PUT THAT BILL ON CALL AND BEFORE
. YOUR TO. NOMINALLY PERCENT THE
VOTE ON THE BILL BUT THE THING
ABOUT IT IS THAT IT DOESN'T
REQUIRE PRESENTATIONS RIGHT
THINK YOU'RE JUST GONNA STAND
THERE. AND THEN I WAS GOING TO
DO- A CATCH UP ON YOUR FIRST
BILL ON THE CONSENT BUT I'LL DO
THAT AFTER. IT'S NOT OKAY WE DO
THIS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
STAY FOR THE REST OF IT SO
HEALTHCARE ARM. A LET ME ASK DO
WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS IS
THERE A MOTION. OKAY THIS IS A
MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN IT'S VOTE
ONLY- WILL BE GONE WITHIN THE
ABOUT THE HEARING SO LET ME ASK
FOR A CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AB
FOURTEEN SEVENTY TWO MOTIONS TO
PASS THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE UMBERG. WILK ALAN.
ASHLEY CABALLERO. RUSSELL WEIRD
NO CLEARED NO MAN NO MAN NO NEW
LOW. THE LOW NO STERN. WINNER OF
ZERO TWO THREE. THANK YOU WE'LL
PUT THAT ON CALL AND THEN OUR
BEFORE WE MOVE. OUT ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HOLDEN ITEMS THREE LET'S
CATCH UP SO. THAT IT CAN ASK FOR
A QUICK CLARIFICATION YES ON I'M
SO SAD ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF OUR AS
WANTED BY- RECONSIDERATION IS
BILL SHOULD I COME BACK LATER
WHEN THE CLOTHES FOR THAT OR
SHOULD I REQUEST THAT. YOU HAVE
. TO COME BACK WILL CAN WE
NOTED. THEN THEN WE WILL JUST
NEED. AT THE OF ANY. OKAY THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SANTA
APPRECIATE THEN LET'S GO BACK DO
I HAVE A MOTION. HELLO HELLO.
FIRST TO YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION
ON A. B. SEVEN SEVEN NINE MOVED
BY SENATOR MAN. LET'S CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE A. B. SEVEN SEVEN NINE THE
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS NUMBER. WILK
ALLEN. ALLEN AYE ASHBY
CABALLERO. TO RUSSELL. WEIRD BY
WEIRD NINE MEN HI MEN I A LITTLE
. THE LOAN STERN. WINNER THREE
TO ONE THREE TO ONE PUT THAT
BILL ON. AND THEN DO I HAVE THE
MOST ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION BY ALAN- WOULD YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL THANK YOU SENATOR
NAY LAW FOR. THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR I'M
BURKE WILK. ALAN HI ALAN I
ASHLEY CABALLERO THE RUSSELL.
WHERE'D BY LAYERED I AM. MAN I
NEED. NEW ISTER ALL RIGHT STERN
ONLINE WIENER. FIVE TWO WE HAVE
FIVE WILL PUT THAT BILL ON CALL
NOW THANK YOU MUCH FOR YOUR
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HOLDEN A WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER
THREE- ASSEMBLY BILL SIX FORTY
SEVEN AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE FOR ALLOW ME TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL SIX FOUR
SEVEN THE GROCERY WORKER
RETENTION PROTECTION ACT. I
WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE. AMENDMENTS AND
DESPITE THEIR ESSENTIAL SERVICE
GROCERY STORE WORKERS HAVE
BECOME COLLATERAL DAMAGE IN THE
WAKE OF RECENT MEGA GROCERY
STORE CHAIN MERGERS. SB SIX
FORTY SEVEN SEEKS TO PREVENT
THIS BY STRENGTHENING AND
EXPANDING STATEWIDE GROCERY
WORKER RETENTION AND RE HIRING
LAWS. AS AMENDED THIS BILL WILL
EXPAND GROCERY WORKER RETENTION
LAW TO INCLUDE WAREHOUSE
EMPLOYEES REMOVE THE INCENTIVE
TO PROLONG A GROCERY STORE FROM
REOPENING TO AVOID POST MERGER
RETENTION PROCEDURES EXPANDING
THE WINDOW FROM SIX MONTHS TO
EIGHTEEN MONTHS OR MORE. VIED
ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS THAT
ALLOW FOR THE LABOR COMMISSIONER
TO ENFORCING GRANT A PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION FOR AGREED.
EMPLOYEES I'VE HEARD FROM THE
CONCERNS RAISED BY THE
OPPOSITION I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
A MOMENT TO ADDRESS THEM. LET ME
FIRST BEGIN BY SAYING THAT
SEVERAL AMENDMENTS WERE TAKEN AT
THE OPPOSITION'S REQUEST AS THE
BILL CAME OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. AS AN
EFFORT TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS
IN GOOD FAITH. THESE AMENDMENTS
INCLUDED THREE HUNDRED EMPLOYEE
MINIMUM THRESHOLD CLARIFICATION
OF THE DEFINITION OF FRONT AND
BACK PAY. AND REMOVAL OF THE
JOINT AND SEVERAL LIABILITY
SECTION AS IT RELATES TO A
CONTROLLING PRIVATE FUND. IN
ADDITION IT REVERTED TO EXISTING
LAW WITH REGARD TO THE NINETY
DAY RETENTION PERIOD. WITH THAT
SAID I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT
MY OFFICE IS ALWAYS PREPARED TO
CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS IN GOOD
FAITH- WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF AB SIX FORTY SEVEN AS
MARIKO. YOSHIHARA WITH UFCW AND
ROBERT LEWIS AN EMPLOYEE AT
GILSON'S. IN CLOSING SB SIX
FORTY SEVEN WILL PROTECT WORKERS
BY PREVENTING MASS LAYOFFS IN
ENSURING A CONSISTENCY IN FOOD
SAFETY AND PHARMACEUTICAL
KNOWLEDGE WITHIN OUR
COMMUNITIES. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I. BOATS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND UNDER OUR RULES. WE
HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH FOR THE-
PRIMARY SUPPORT WITNESSES SO
WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE YOU
HAVE TO THANK YOU SO MUCH. A
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ROBERT
LAUNIUS I'M A MEAT MANAGER
SEAFOOD MANAGER GILSON'S IN SAN
DIEGO. AND A PROUD ARMY VETERAN.
I USED TO WORK AT VONS SAFEWAY
AS WE KNOW. UNTIL MY STORE GOT
SHUT DOWN IN THE OAKLEIGH
SAFEWAY ALBERTSONS MERGER. THAT
IS WHY I MIGHT I'M HERE TODAY
BECAUSE I'VE- SEEN FIRST HAND.
HOW MERGERS WORK. AND HER
FAMILY'S. AND I AM A SOLE
PROVIDER FOR MY FAMILY. THIS JOB
IS IN A SIDE GIG OR A HOBBY.
IT'S MY LIVELIHOOD. LIKE SO MANY
OTHERS WE RELY ON THIS JOB. GIVE
US WHAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE. FROM
INCOME. TO HEALTH INSURANCE TO
RETIREMENT. WE HAVE RENTS
MORTGAGE- CHILES INSURANCES AND
OTHER MONTHLY BILLS TO PAY. WE
HAVE MOUTHS TO FEED AND WITHOUT
THESE JOBS WE HAVE NOTHING. WE
KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TWO
COMPANIES MERGE STORES CLOSE. SO
IT IS IMPERATIVE. THAT THE ACT
BEFORE THESE POWERFUL COMPANIES
EMERGE. POWERFUL IMPACTS OF A-
OF A MERGER HOURS GET CUT.
WORKERS ARE SHUFFLED FROM STORE
TO STORE. LOSING INCOME AND
LOSING YOUR SENIORITY. SOME
TAKING MASSIVE PAY CUTS AND SOME
HAVING TO COMMUTE HOURS TO WORK
. AND THE LONG DISTANCE TAKING
AWAY FROM TIME FROM THEIR
FAMILIES. HI COMMITTEES WE SERVE
. LOSE ACCESS TO FRESH FOODS
HEALTHY AND PREPARED MEALS WHICH
IS VITAL TO OUR SENIOR
COMMUNITIES. SO WHEN WE HEAR
ABOUT A MERGER ON THE HORIZON WE
FEAR THE WORST. WHAT I'M FEELING
TODAY IS ANXIETY. I AM A FIFTY
FIVE YEAR OLD MAN. WITH TWO
YEARS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT. THIS
MERGER WOULD DESTROY EVERYTHING
THAT I'VE WORKED SO HARD FOR ME
AND MY FAMILY. TO BUILD. THOSE
OF US WHO WERE LUCKY TO SURVIVE
THE LAST GROCERY MERGER IN
TWENTY FOURTEEN. SO HOW IT
DESTROYED COUNTLESS LIVES
LIVELIHOODS IN THE BLINK OF AN
EYE. AND MANY OF THESE WORKERS
TODAY NEVER RECOVERED AND ARE ON
PERMANENT DISABILITY. AND WE
FEAR I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT
BECAUSE YOU PLEASE WRAP UP. OVER
HERE. THIRTY COULD YOU PLEASE
WRAP UP YES SERVE EXCEEDED YOUR
TWO MINUTES. SO YES I AM FEARFUL
THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR WORKERS
LIKE ME BUT I'M ALSO HOPEFUL
THAT OUR SENATORS WILL SUPPORT
THIS BILL AND ENSURE THAT THE
FUTURE WE LOOK. FORWARD TO AS AN
OPPORTUNITY I THINK YOU MEET YOU
HERE TODAY AND I HOPE YOU FULLY
UNDERSTAND THE POWERFUL BILL
THAT'S WHAT TO BE IMPACT FULLY
THAT YOU CAN HELP. OUR
COMMUNITIES. AND LIVES WITHOUT
FEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH BYE
THANKS AND I ASSUME YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. NO YOU JUST
DIDN'T SAY THAT THAT'S ALL I'M
DOING R. IF WE COULD HAVE THE
OTHER PRIMARY WITNESS FOR UP TO
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
MISTER CHAIRMAN REYES MARICO
YOSHIHARU HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF UFCW WESTERN STATE COUNCIL IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF AB SIX FORTY
SEVEN. OF THIS BILL IS A MODEST
EXPANSION OF OUR EXISTING
GROCERY WORKER RETENTION LAW
THAT WAS PASSED BACK IN TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN IT'S CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WE PASSED THESE
ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS AND
STRENGTHEN THE LAW NOW WHAT
WE'RE FACING. ONE OF THE LARGEST
PROPOSED MERGERS IN THE GROCERY
INDUSTRY HISTORY THE KROGER
ALBERTSONS MERGER THREATENS TO
SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE THE WORK
FORCE IN THESE TWO GROCERY
CHAINS THROUGH MASS LAYOFFS. THE
COMPANY'S OF SAID THAT THEY MAY
HAVE TO DIVEST UP TO SIX HUNDRED
AND FIFTY STORES NATIONWIDE. IN
ORDER TO SECURE ANTI TRUST
APPROVAL FROM THE FTC AND IF
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH COMPETITION
THE FTC WILL MANDATE THAT A
SPECIFIC NUMBER OF STORES WILL
HAVE TO BE DIVESTED OFF OR CLOSE
DOWN. AND JUST LOS ANGELES AND
ORANGE COUNTY ALONE IT IS
ESTIMATED THAT CLOSE TO SIX
THOUSAND WORKERS MAY LOSE THEIR
JOBS DUE TO THIS MERGER. THIS
BILL SIMPLY ENSURE THAT THESE
WORKERS WHO ARE LAID OFF CAN
MAINTAIN CAN STAY ON A
PREFERENTIAL HIRING LIST. AND
KEEP THEIR JOBS IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES AND JUST TO BE
CLEAR. THIS ONLY APPLIES TO
WORKERS WHO ARE LAID OFF DUE TO
NON DISCIPLINARY REASONS THERE
IS A REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION THAT
A WORKER WAS TERMINATED WITHIN A
YEAR OF A CHANGE OF CONTROL IS
DUE TO NON DISCIPLINARY REASONS.
THAT'S ALL IT IS IT'S A
PRESUMPTION THAT IS REBUTTABLE
WHICH MEANS THAT IF A WORKER IS
FIRED FOR CAUSE. AND THE
EMPLOYER HAS A FOR CAUSE
TERMINATION TO REBUT THE
EVIDENCE. TO REBUT THE-
PRESUMPTION AND THEREFORE THIS
BILL WOULD NOT APPLY. AGAIN THIS
IS A VERY NARROWLY TAILORED BILL
TO ADDRESS THESE MEGA MERGERS.
IF WE WANT TO AVOID THESE MASS
LAYOFFS OF OUR SKILLED AND
TRAINED GROCERY AND PHARMACY
WORKERS IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE
PASS THIS BILL SO ON BEHALF OF.
YOU SEE W. WE STRONGLY URGE YOUR
AYE VOTE ON EIGHTY SIX FORTY
SEVEN THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS- THIS WOULD BE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY IN THE
HEARING ROOM. TO DO A ME TO. OUR
INTO SUPPORT OF THIS BILL WHICH
IS A NAME. ORGANIZA AND THE FACT
THAT YOU SUPPORT THE BILL
WELCOME. GOOD MORNING NICK CREWS
OF THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN MATT CRIMES ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL OFFICE
OF OPERATING ENGINEERS IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
SAMANTHA GORDON WHAT TECH EQUITY
COLLABORATIVE IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING SENATORS FOREST
KEVIN ON BEHALF OF THE WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY HERE
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. SAYING NO ONE ELSE IN
THE ROOM- THIS WOULD BE THE
OPPORTUNITY. FOR ANYBODY TO
TESTIFY AGAINST THIS BILL AND I
DON'T KNOW ARE YOU A PRIMARY
WITNESS. YES SIR THEN WELCOME TO
THE PODIUM AND YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. MISTER CHAIRMAN BURST
THE COMMITTEE LOUIS BROWN HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
GROCERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL- WE DO
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS
WE'VE HAD WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
HOLDEN- BUT WE DO REMAIN IN
OPPOSITION. FIRST THE ANALYSIS
FOCUSES ON. THE MERGER THAT'S IN
THE NEWS- THIS BILL WILL DO
NOTHING TO IMPACT. THAT MERGER.
I THAT MERGER IS GOING TO BE
GUIDED AND OFFICIATED BY THE
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION- AND
THE OUTCOME OF THAT WILL BE
DIRECTED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
THE SUPPORT OF THE BILL ALSO
TALK ABOUT HOW THIS WILL BE USED
AS A DETERRENT FOR FUTURE NAGRIK
MEGA MERGERS. THE CHANGES IN
THIS BILL. WILL IMPACT ALMOST
EVERY TRANSACTION IN THE GROCERY
INDUSTRY GOING FORWARD. NOT
WITHSTANDING THE AMENDMENTS THE
TALK ABOUT IT ONLY IMPACTS THOSE
GROCERY IN. COMPANIES WITH THREE
HUNDRED EMPLOYEES OR MORE. ARE
MOST GROCERY COMPANIES HAVE
THREE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES OR MORE
EVEN THE SMALLEST INDEPENDENT
GROCERS. IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WITH TWO OR MORE
STORES WILL HAVE THREE HUNDRED
EMPLOYEES OR MORE. SO EVERY
FUTURE TRANSACTION WILL HAVE TO
ABIDE BY. THESE CHANGES TO THE
RULES. AND ONE WOULD ASK WHY
BROKE WHO ARE WHY FIX IT IF IT'S
NOT BROKE. HOW WE'VE SEEN THIS
WORK I IN THE PAST SINCE TWENTY
FIFTEEN. WE'VE SEEN TRANSACTIONS
CONTINUE TO OCCUR WE SEE
EMPLOYEES PROTECTED WITH THOSE
I'D INSTANCES THAT ARE IN THE
LAW CURRENTLY. BUT NOW WE'RE
GONNA PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION-
TO THE BILL SO THOSE
TRANSACTIONS ARE NOW GOING TO BE
EXTREMELY SCRUTINIZED. AND I
THINK ACTUALLY WHAT WE SEE IS
GOING TO BE THE EXACT FEAR OF
THE SUPPORTERS. ACTUALLY BECOME
REALITY. NOW THOSE TRANSACTIONS
ARE GONNA LOOK AND PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT
IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND LOOK
AT THE OPPORTUNITY OF PROCURING
EIGHT ANOTHER GROCERY STORE.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL
SPACE THE GROCERS CAN TAKE. AND
IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT ANALYZING
THE ISSUES IN THE PENALTIES AND
LIABILITIES THAT COME WITH THE
CHANGES IN THIS BILL. VERSUS
JUST PROCURING AN OPEN SPACE AND
EXPANDING THE BUSINESS USE ME IF
I CAN ASK IS THEIR SECOND
PRIMARY WITNESS IN OPPOSITION.
IF THERE'S NOT THEN I'LL LET YOU
FINISH YOUR STATEMENT TO NO
EXTRA TIME. JUST BE THE ONLY ONE
OKAY PLEASE CONTINUE. AS I WAS
SAYING- IF YOU'RE IN THE FUTURE
LOOKING TO MAKE A TRANSACTION OR
PROCUREMENT. AND YOU LOOK AT THE
POTENTIAL LIABILITIES AND COSTS
THAT COME WITH THE CHANGES OF
THIS BILL INCLUDING THE PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION. AND COMPARE
THAT WITH THE OPPORTUNITY OF
JUST MOVING INTO OPEN COMMERCIAL
SPACE. THE OPPORTUNITY MOVING
OPEN COMMERCIAL SPACE AND
EXPANDING THE BUSINESS BECOMES
MUCH MORE APPEALING. AND
THEREFORE. I THINK WHAT WE'LL
SEE IS A GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR
FOOD DESERT'S OCCUR. LIMITED
EXPANSION WITHIN THE GROCERY
INDUSTRY. AND MORE DETRIMENTAL
IMPACT ON GROCERY WORKERS GOING
FORWARD IF THIS BILL WERE TO
PASS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN OPPOSE
POSITION ASK FOR NO VOTE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS- WELL
NOW MOVES TO A ME TOO OPPOSITION
WITH PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. ANYBODY
THAT THAT OPPOSES THIS BILL WITH
NAME. AFFILIATION AND OPPOSITION
. SAYING NO ONE STEPPED TO THE
MICROPHONE A MODERATOR WE WILL
COME TO THE TELECONFERENCE.
SYSTEM AND THIS IS THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY- TO
EITHER STATE THEIR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL AND JUST
IN ME TO FASHION JUST NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU
AS A REMINDER IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO ON
YOUR TELEPHONE KEYPAD. WE'LL GO
FIRST THE LINE FIFTY TWO GO
AHEAD. HI CAN YOU HEAR ME WE CAN
HEAR YOU JUST FINE. MR SERRA FOR
MALE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT CALL. RICHARD
SHERMAN YELLOW FOR THE LINES
INTO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MODERATOR WILL BE BACK TO YOU IN
A LITTLE WHILE. HE WILL BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
OR THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. A SENATOR MAN
. YEAH I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
LEGISLATION FORWARD- A. I. THE
LARGER PROBLEM THAT WE CAN'T
ADDRESS IN THIS STATE. I IS THE
CONSOLIDATION OF GROCERY CHAINS
IN AND WE SEE THAT THIS IS VERY
ALMOST CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE A
HUGE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
CONSUMERS AND ON WORKERS- YES IN
MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD I KNOW THAT
WILL LOSE A NUMBER OF GROCERY
STORES AND THEY'RE ALL. VERY
PACKED THE LINES ARE TYPICALLY
VERY LONG AND I HAVEN'T HEARD A
COMPELLING RATIONALE FOR WHY
THESE MERGERS ARE HELPFUL OR
NEEDED- I THINK WE ARE
POTENTIALLY FACING. HUGE IMPACTS
ON OUR WORKFORCE I APPRECIATE
THE TESTIMONY OF THE SUPPORT
BUSINESSES TODAY I'VE TALKED TO
WORKERS IN MY LOCAL ALBERTSONS
AND PAVILIONS AND THEY'RE ALL
DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT. THEIR
FUTURES AND SO- WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE THE BUILT APPROPRIATE TIME
AND YOU KNOW COMMEND YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
. ASCENDER AL I'M- FROM MISTER
BROWN AND WHAT WHAT IS IT. YOU
FOLKS ARE FINDING MOST ONEROUS
ABOUT AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED
HERE THROUGH THE CHAIR. OF
MISTER BROWN WELCOME BACK. THANK
YOU MR CHAIRMAN. AGAIN LOUIS
BROWN ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
GROCERS ASSOCIATION. I THINK IT
DEFINITELY SENATOR ALLEN THROUGH
THE CHAIR. THE MOST PROBLEMATIC
ELEMENT OF THE BILL. IS THE
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION- AND
THAT JUST WE BELIEVE OPENS UP
SIGNIFICANT. SCRUTINY THERE ARE
OTHER ISSUES WITH. FOR EXAMPLE-
NOW THE BILL WOULD- IN THE
PREPARATION ISN'T A PROBLEM IF
THERE'S NOT A VIOLATION. WELL
THERE'S ALLEGE VIOLATIONS THAT.
THAT THEN JUST TAKE UP TIME IN
LITIGATION COSTS AND HOW
RESOURCES. THERE IS A CHANGE TO
THE BILL- ADDITION TO THE BILL
REGARDING THIS FIFTEEN MILES I
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME
FROM- AND IT IF- IF PERSON IS
TRANSFERRED. MORE THAN FIFTEEN
MILES THEY CAN REFUSE THAT- THIS
A LARGE STATE- FIFTEEN MILES IN-
A SISKIYOU COUNTY IS MUCH
DIFFERENT THAN FIFTEEN MILES. IN
L. A. COUNTY AND SO- WE THINK
THIS THIS ONE ELEMENT IS JUST AN
EXAMPLE OF A CHANGE THAT WE
DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM
WHY IT MATTERS AND WHY IT HAS AN
IMPACT- WE'VE NOT BEEN CONSULTED
ON IT AND NOT. BEEN ABLE TO GIVE
ANY. FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL SO
THAT'S THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE
EXAMPLES YEAH WE COULD
DEFINITELY GO THROUGH IT AND
FIND OTHERS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC
TO US BUDGET BEEN GOOD ABOUT THE
MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. YES ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE SENATE OR EVEN IF THE
IF THE AUTHOR HAS ANY- COPIES OF
THE FIFTEEN MAN IS IN HIS
CLOTHES WE'LL ASK YOU TO ADDRESS
THAT AND YOU'RE CLOSE. OR NO
MOVEMENT WITHIN GO AHEAD. OKAY
I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE A SOME I
. ON SO. WELL MY IT A SURE RISK
- FIFTEEN MILES AS I SO BEEN IN
THE BILL- WILL OUR- OUR OR
WHATEVER WITNESSES- L. THE POINT
BUT IT'S REALLY IF THEY- HER IT
COULD BE YOU. IF A IS REAL.
OUTSIDE OF FIFTEEN MILES WE'RE
LOOKING AT IT AS A REASONABLE
DISTANCE TO TRAVEL YOU PUT
SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THAT RANGE
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S A-
HARDSHIP. A TO GET FROM. WHERE
THEY MAY LIVE CLOSE TO. OF THE
STORE THIS HAS BEEN- SHUT DOWN
OR MERGED INTO A LARGER
OPERATION SO IT REALLY IS TRYING
TO. OF PAY RESPECT TO THE- TO
THE WORKERS. AND MAKING SURE
THAT THEY'RE NOT SENT OUT TO
DESTINATIONS WILL BE ON THEIR
ABILITY TO GET. DISSECT COMPLETE
YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
MYSTERON. WELL I'M AND I WOULD
GO ALLEGE AMERICAN. RESPONDING
ON STOP WHAT SO THE FIFTEEN
MILES IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE
BILL IT'S ACTUALLY IN A LOT OF.
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
AS WELL AND THE PROMISES WE WANT
TO KEEP THESE WORKERS AND THEIR
COMMUNITIES. AND SO WHEN YOU
HAVE THESE BIG MERGERS
OFTENTIMES THERE WILL BE A
TRANSFER THAT IS THIRTY FORTY
EIGHT MILES AWAY AND IF THAT
WORKER CAN ACTUALLY REFUSE. THAT
TRANSFER BUT STILL MAINTAINS BE
ON A PREFERENTIAL HIRING LIST SO
THAT WHEN A JOB OPENS UP IN
THEIR- COMMUNITY THEY'RE ABLE TO
TAKE IT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE
BEST SCENARIO. AND THEN JUST IN
RESPONSE TO THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION. LIKE SENATOR ALLEN SAID
YOU KNOW THIS REALLY ONLY IS A
PROBLEM IF THERE IS A VIOLATION
AND IT'S AN VERY NARROW SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES WERE ONLY TALKING
ABOUT RECALL REHIRED- RETENTION-
AND PAGA THERE'S A- THERE'S A
RIGHT TO CARE IF THERE'S ANY
VIOLATION OR PROGRESS SO. REALLY
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOME
ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM BECAUSE IF
YOU IF YOU END UP RELYING ON
LABOR COMMISSIONER WE KNOW
THAT'S OVER BURDEN UNDER
RESOURCE IT TAKES WORKERS WAS A
FIVE HUNDRED DAYS. IN ORDER TO
GET RELIEF THERE. SO THAT'S WHY
ENFORCEMENT I'M IN FOR SOME
MECHANISM IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHECK
COMPLETE YOUR- ANY BILL. ARE MEN
- ARCTIC. THAT BUT LET ME ASK
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. SENATOR NEO. IT JUST
TO ADD ON TO THAT POINT- WITH
REGARD TO A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION NO FEAR IF THERE HASN'T
BEEN A VIOLATION WELL. THERE CAN
BE AN ALLEGATION THAT THEN NEEDS
TO BE PROVEN IN COURT. IF IT IS
DISPROVEN. THAT IS TO SAY- THE-
PLAINTIFF IN THAT CASE IS JUDGED
TO BE WRONG THE DEFENDANT- A NOT
GUILTY OF THE- PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION CHARGE. AND THIS BILL
SPECIFICALLY STATES. THAT THE
DEFENDANT HAS NO RIGHT. TO
COLLECT LEGAL FEES. BUT THE
PLAINTIFF HAS A RIGHT TO COLLECT
LEGAL FEES WHICH SEEMS ENTIRELY
ONE SIDED AND UNFAIR. BUT TO ME
THIS IS A- ONE OF A FEW BILLS
WILL SEE TODAY WITH REGARD TO
WORKER RIGHTS AND INDIVIDUALLY
EACH ONE. CAN BE DEFENSIBLE AND
I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE THAT ONE
WAY OR THE OTHER BUT I WOULD
POINT OUT. THAT IN EACH CASE. IT
PRESENTS A BURDEN ON THE
EMPLOYER. AND BURDENS ON
EMPLOYERS DON'T DO A GREAT DEAL
TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO EXPAND.
OR OTHER BUSINESSES TO COME INTO
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SO THAT.
IN A RATHER PERVERSE WAY THIS
ATTEMPT TO HELP WORKERS. CAN
ACTUALLY RESULT IN REDUCING THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR INCREASED JOBS
BECAUSE OF BURDENS THAT
BUSINESSES DON'T WANT TO TAKE.
IT SAID TOUGH LINE TO STRADDLE.
BUT I'D SUGGEST THAT- ON THE
WHOLE WERE STRADDLING OUT ON THE
SIDE OF LIMITING OPPORTUNITIES
FOR JOB CREATION IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. SEEING NONE WE HAVE
A MOTION BY SENATOR MEN ASSEMBLY
MEMBER YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR. YOU KNOW WE WERE
SEEING THIS NOT JUST IN
CALIFORNIA BUT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. AND GROWING UP IN MY
COMMUNITY PASADENA WE HAD A LOT
OF SMALLER MARKETS. THEN LARGER
MARKETS CAME IN AT ALPHA BETA WE
HAD PANTRIES YOU KNOW YOU'RE
ABOUT THEM ANYMORE. BUT THEN YOU
HAVE LARGER. BUSINESSES THAT
WOULD COME IN AND- GOBBLED THEM
UP. WE'RE SEEING A GROW EVEN
MORE. NOT JUST HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AND THE MERGER THIS
IN FRONT OF US BUT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. WHICH IS MAKING SUPER
MEGA. SUPERMARKETS AND GROCERY
OUTLETS. AND THAT'S IN AND OF
ITSELF IS WHAT THIS BILL IS
ABOUT. THOSE WORKERS WHO GET
CAUGHT UP IN. CIRCUMSTANCES THAT
ARE OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN. AND
HOW WE CAN BEST PROTECT THEM AND
MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A JOB. ON
THE OTHER SIDE SHOULD THE- TO
STAY ON- IN THIS BILL IS
DESIGNED TO CREATE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE
TREATED FAIRLY. AND THAT
TRANSITION SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COULD
YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THIS
IS FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE AB SIX
FOUR SEVEN MOTIONS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE NUMBER.
WILK ALAN. ALLEN I ASHLEY.
CABALLERO RUSSELL LAYERED.
LAYERED BY MEN. MEN I ANY LOW.
THE LOW NO STERN AT STERN ONLINE
. IS IT MORE TO ONE FOUR TO ONE
WE'LL PUT THAT BILL ON CALL
THANK YOU VERY. I SEE MEMBER IS
THERE ANOTHER HERE MISSING JUST
BE I DO THOUGH. NOT SEEING ONE-
REMOVED ITEM NUMBER NINE
ASSEMBLY BILL FIVE SIXTY BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF BENNETT IT
JUST BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO
YOU. YOU'RE THE ONLY AUTHOR IN
THE ROOM AND WE STILL HAVE ABOUT
THIRTY BILLS SO. IF THEY'RE
AUTHORS THAT MIGHT WANT TO SNEAK
AHEAD IN LINE RUN NOW- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BENEFITS OF THE FLOWERS
YOURS. AB I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THE- HARD WORK THEY'VE DONE ON
THIS BILL. AB FIVE SIXTY SIMPLY
ENSURES THAT A JUDGE IN THAT
CASE- DOES THAT THE DEPARTMENT
OF WATER RESOURCES AND STATE
WATER BOARDS I HAVE A VALUE
WAITED A PROPOSED SETTLEMENT FOR
ITS CONSISTENCY WITH A
GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY PLAN
THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE- BY
LOCAL HARD WORKING. PEOPLE HOW
WE'VE RECENTLY ACCEPTED AN
AMENDMENT- FROM THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL THAT REMOVE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL'S REVIEW WOULD THINK
IT'S AN EXCELLENT AMENDMENT- AND
WE'VE INCORPORATED A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY DAY TURN AROUND- FOR THE
DEPARTMENTS. IT ENSURES THAT
THEY WILL NOT BE DRAGGING OUT-
ANY OF UNIFICATION- AND- WITH
THAT SO WE HAVE. TO WITNESSES TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT SUPERVISOR
PHILIP PETERS FROM KERN COUNTY
AND DAVE BRUNSON FROM THE
COMMUNITY ALLIANCE WITH FAMILY
FARMERS. THANK. YOU VERY MUCH-
THIS. WERE TO THE CRACKER YOU
HAVE TO. HI GOOD AFTERNOON JEFF
SEMINARY WITH THE CAPITAL
CORPORATE RESENTING THE INDIAN
WELLS VALLEY GROUNDWATER
AUTHORITY WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT WITH ASSEMBLY BILL FIVE
SIXTY. AND IT JUST THE IMPORTANT
THING TO REMEMBER HERE IS THAT
MUCH LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
WITH THE DISCUSSION PERTAINING
TO AB SEVEN SEVEN NINE. THE
CONCERN THAT WE HAVE AND THE
REASON WHY WE ARE SO SUPPORTIVE
OF THIS BILL IS THAT IT'S GOING
TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AS
WELL AS SMALL COMMUNITY FARMERS.
ARE AN INDISPENSABLE PARTY AS
PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS SO
THAT THEY ARE HEARD. AND I THINK
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP
TO MAKE SURE THAT. LIKE SEVEN
SEVEN NINE THERE ARE A FAIR
PROCESS THAT ADJUDICATIONS WILL
GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL
PARTIES NO MATTER THE
REPRESENTATION ARE ABLE TO BE
HEARD. WE REPRESENT AGAIN THE
INDIAN WELLS VALLEY GROUNDWATER
AUTHORITY WHICH IS ONE OF THE
TWENTY ONE CRITICALLY OVER
DRAFTED GROUNDWATER BASINS IN
THE STATE. THAT'S GOING THROUGH
HAS AN APPROVED YES P. BUT IS
UNDER AN EDUCATION PROCESS AT
THE MOMENT AS WELL AND WE
BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT BILL TO BE ABLE TO
MOVE THAT PROCESS FORWARD. AND
WE URGE YOUR AYE VOTE THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IS YOUR
OTHER PRIMARY WITNESS HERE. IS
THAT A YES. ONE THE OTHER
PRIMARY WITNESS MAKE THEIR WAY
TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE UP TO
TWO MINUTES.
JERRY MEMBERS DAVE BRUNSON IN
ADVANCE FAMILY FARMERS. I WON'T
REPEAT WHAT I SAID IN MY AB
SEVEN SEVEN NINE TESTIMONY. BUT
KNOW THAT THE QIANMEN INDIAN
WELLS EXAMPLES. ARE CLEAR CASES
OF THE DEPLORABLE EFFORTS BY
LARGE FARMING OPERATIONS.
CIRCUMVENT THE SIGNUP PROCESS BY
FILING FOR ADJUDICATION. AND ASK
THE COURT TO SUSPEND GSA
MANAGEMENT ACT. AB FIVE SIXTY
ATTEMPTS TO LIMIT THIS AND RUN.
BY BRINGING IN THE WATER BOARD
INDEED OF YOUR REVIEW ANY
EDUCATION SETTLEMENT. AND TO SEE
WHETHER IT WOULD CONFORM WITH
THE LOCAL GROUNDWATER
SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. AND PROTECT
SMALL PUMPERS AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE
THE COURT TO ACCEPT THESE
AGENCIES JUDGMENT. BUT IT WILL
PROVIDE IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO
ALL PARTIES. AND TO THE PUBLIC
AT LARGE. IT SEEMS ESSENTIAL TO
US AND CARRIES ON THE INTENT OF
THE LEGISLATURE IN PASSING SIGMA
. NOT ALL JUDGES ARE WELL VERSED
IN SIGMA AND ITS DETAILS AND
THEY COULD LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT
SICKNESS SEEKS TO ACHIEVE IN
TERMS OF EQUITY AND
SUSTAINABILITY. WE STRONGLY URGE
YOUR SUPPORT FOR EIGHTY FIVE
SIX. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARM
THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES THIS WOULD BE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF
THE PUBLIC IN THE ROOM. A TO DO
A ME TOO IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
NAME ORGANIZATION AND THE FACT
THAT YOU SUPPORT. SEEING NO ONE
AGAIN WILL MOVE TO OPPOSITION I
DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PRIMARY
WITNESS HERE. AND WELCOME TO THE
COMMITTEE GOOD MORNING THANK YOU
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH ESPOSITO
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH BROWN'S
DEAN AND I REPRESENT MOJAVE
PISTACHIOS A LARGE PISTACHIO
GROWER FEAR SHADOWS RANCH A
SMALL GROWER AND THE INYO KERN
COMMUNITY SERVICES DISTRICT A
PUBLIC AGENCY THAT SERVES THE
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY AND THE
INDIAN WELLS VALLEY GROUNDWATER
ADJUDICATION. I'M HERE TODAY TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE BILL
BECAUSE FIRST IT IMPOSES A
BARRIER TO SETTLEMENT. THIS
FRUSTRATES THE STATED INTENT OF
BOTH CIGNA AND THE TWENTY
FIFTEEN STREAMLINED EDUCATION
ACT. THE BILL HAS ALSO AND
NECESSARY BECAUSE THE COURT IN
AN EDUCATION ACTION ALREADY HAS
A CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY. TO
MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF
GROUNDWATER THAT CAN BE
WITHDRAWN WHILE PREVENTING
AGAINST UNDESIRABLE RESULTS THIS
IS THE SAME STANDARD THAT'S
CONTAINED IN STIGMA. THE COURT
IN IN EDUCATION ALSO HAS
CONTINUING JURISDICTION TO A
JUST A FIELD WHERE NEW
INFORMATION COMES TO LIGHT THAT
SHOWS THAT'S APPROPRIATE. AND
AGAIN THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE IDEA- THE IDEALS OF SIGMA.
COURTS HAVE BEEN EXERCISING THIS
DUTY. SIMILARLY A CENTURY AND
COURTS PROVIDE IMPORTANT DUE
PROCESS SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE
ENTIRELY ABSENT IN THE GSA'S
SIGNUP PROCESS. THE BILL IS ALSO
A NECESSARY TO PROTECT SMALL
PUMPERS BECAUSE EXISTING LAW
ALREADY REQUIRES THAT THE COURT
FIND THAT SMALL NUMBERS ARE
TREATED QUOTE EQUITABLY AND
IMPOSING A STIPULATED JUDGMENT.
AND SMALL NUMBERS ARE ALSO
COMMONLY EXEMPTED FROM PAYING
FEES AND THERE ARE OTHER
MECHANISMS THAT COURTS IN
EDUCATIONS HAVE TO LESSEN
BURDENS ON SMALL PUMPERS. LAST
WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE BILL
IMPROPERLY ELEVATES THE FINDINGS
OF THE GSA THOSE FINDINGS MAY BE
THE SUBJECT OF INDEPENDENT
JUDICIAL REVIEW AND CHALLENGE.
UNDER WATER CODE SECTION ONE OF
SEVEN TO SIX POINT SIX WITH
WHICH PERMITS CHALLENGE GSA
ACTIONS. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE FROM THE INDIAN WELLS
VALLEY THERE THE GSA ALLOCATED
ZERO BASIN GROUNDWATER TO MY
CLIENT MOJAVE PISTACHIOS. SO THE
GSA GOT TO SUSTAINABILITY BY
PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS. YOU
W. R. IN A REVIEW ARE YOU THE-
MAY OPPOSITION WITNESS YES THEN
YOU SEE THE DID TWO MINUTES BUT
I'LL LET YOU FINISH YOUR
STATEMENT THANK YOU I APPRECIATE
IT. I AM SO IN THE INDIAN WELLS
EXAMPLE WE HAVE A PENDING
LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THE GSA'S
ALLOCATION APPROACH. THE W. R.
IN ITS REVIEW OF THE GST.
EXPRESSLY LIMITED ITS REVIEW TO
QUOTE TEKNISKA TECHNICAL
SUFFICIENCY AND NOT THE LEGALITY
OF THE ALLOCATION METHODOLOGY.
AND JUST LAST YEAR SENATOR STERN
SPONSORED SB THIRTEEN SEVENTY
TWO TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN D. W.
R. PROVES THE GSP. IT IS NOT
PASSING ON WHETHER THE
ALLOCATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH
GROUND WATER RIGHTS LAW. USE ARE
IMPORTANT LEGAL DETERMINATIONS
THAT ARE THE ROLE OF THE COURT
AND SERVER THESE REASONS WE ASK
FOR YOUR NO VOTE ON THE BILL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THEN THIS WOULD BE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO DO A
ME TOO IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL
JUST NAME ORGANIZATION. AND THAT
YOU OPPOSE. WELCOME GOOD MORNING
BRENDA BASS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
WESTERN GROWERS AND AT THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
AFTERNOON RUSSIAN- ON BEHALF OF
VARIOUS AGRICULTURAL
ASSOCIATIONS OPPOSITION THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THE MORNING
WILLIE MCKAY ON BEHALF OF UNITED
WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND
OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING TRICIA GERINGER
WITH AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIA RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU. MORNING MR TERENCE
SENATORS ROSANNA CURVATURE ONLY
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
GROUNDWATER COALITION ALSO
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. MORNING
DURING HE ON BEHALF OF NETWORK
THEORY IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. JOHN MOFFETT ON
BEHALF OF THE MILK PRODUCERS
COUNCIL IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU
. THING NO ONE ELSE FOR ME TO
SEND OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM. A
MODERATOR WILL COME TO THE
TELECONFERENCE. OUR WINE AND
THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
ANYONE TO DO A ME TO IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION JUST NAME
ORGANIZATION. AND POSITION
MODERATOR OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU
AND PLEASE PRESS ONE AND THEN
ZERO TWO GETTING Q. FOR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION OF AB FIVE SIXTY
WE'LL GO TO LINE. SEVENTY ONE.
YES DOREEN KAHNAWAKE BAKER HERE
SEVEN STRANDS. I HAVE THOSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
WE'LL GO TO LINE. ONE THIRTY
FOUR. THIS IS GAIL BILL HANDS
WITH WHAT YOUR GROWERS
ASSOCIATION WE'RE IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL GO
NEXT TO LINE. ONE TWENTY THREE.
BLIND ONE TWENTY THREE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. YOUR PHONE OF YOUR
MUTED. WILL MOVE ON TO LINE UP.
ONE THIRTY FIVE. THE CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ROGER DICKINSON ON
BEHALF OF CIVIC WELL FORMERLY
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION
IN SUPPORT THANKS VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. A LOCAL CLIENT.
THIRTY SEVEN. BONTA HOCKER
RIDGECREST AREA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS OFFICE OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISTER
TERRY OF NO FURTHER IN Q. THANK
YOU. FOR BRINGING THE MATTER
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CENTER
NOODLE. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS BILL
MIGHT ARGUABLY BE UNNECESSARY-
IT SAYS THAT- IT THE- THOSE
DECISIONS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO
THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
CONTROL BOARD THE COURT CAN
ALREADY ASK FOR THAT CAN THEY
NOT IF IT'S DEEMED NECESSARY.
YES YES THEY CAN BUT THE STATE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD
DOESN'T HAVE TO RESPOND AND THEY
HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONDING. I'VE
HAD I'VE I'VE I UNDERSTAND THAT
BUT STILL THE COURT COULD
REQUESTED AND- IF THERE ARE.
SEEMS TO ME THAT. THE TERM SHALL
MEANS THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO.
WHICH MEANS THAT THIS BILL
REQUIRES THAT THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH PARTICIPATES IN THE
DECISION OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH
. NOW KIND OF SUBTLE BUT IT
SEEMS TO ME THERE COULD BE A
SERIOUS SEPARATION OF POWERS
ISSUE HERE HAS LEDGE COUNCIL-
OPINED ON THAT. ALLEGE COUNSEL
HELPED US CRAFT THIS LANGUAGE
NUMBER ONE AND THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL- HAS FEELS VERY STRONGLY
ABOUT PROTECTING THAT AND THAT'S
WHY THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
RECOMMENDED THAT THIS DOESN'T
REQUIRE THE COURTS TO SUBMIT THE
LANGUAGE. BUT THAT THE
SETTLEMENT PEOPLE THE PARTIES
WHO WANT TO OFFER A SETTLEMENT
ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO D. W. ARE
IN THE STATE WATER BOARD AND GET
A NON. THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE
TO THE COURT AND THERE ARE
MULTIPLE OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE
WE REQUIRE. PEOPLE WHO ARE
PROPOSING SETTLEMENT SIX AT
RICHARD GO THROUGH VARIOUS
STEPS- AS PART OF THEIR
SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL PROCESS THIS
IS JUST ONE FOR GROUNDWATER.
THE SECOND PLEASE YOUR QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
. SENATOR STRENGTH THANK YOU MR-
THANK YOU SO MEMBER FOR STAYING
ON THIS ISSUE IT'S RIGHT IN OUR
BACKYARD AND IT'S EVERYWHERE- I
WORKED ON LEGISLATION IN THIS
ARENA AND I THINK EVEN AS YOUR
OPPOSITION NOTED- WE WERE TRYING
. TO OVER IN DOUBT THE JUDICIAL
PROCESS WITH- WITH TOO MANY
STRICTURES HERE WE STILL WANT
THAT TO WORK- WHAT I'M HOPING IS
WITH HIS LEGISLATION THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO GET INPUT THAT'S GOING
TO MAKE THESE PROPOSED
SETTLEMENTS MORE DURABLE. THAT
ULTIMATELY BRINGING IN THE
RESOURCES THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT- CAN PUT US ON A PATH TO
SUSTAINABILITY NOT JUST- YOU
KNOW IN THE CONTEXT OF. THAT ONE
BROKERED AGREEMENT BUT IN THE
LONGER TERM AS WE IMPLEMENT THE
FULLNESS OF SIGMA AND THAT THAT
I THINK IT'S HARD TO. WRESTLE
WITH A THING FOR THE OPPOSITION
BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD TO GET TO
ONE OF THESE TO BEGIN WITH
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD AN EXPEDITED.
EDUCATION PROCESS WE SORT OF WE
BUILT THAT INTO SIGMA IT
ORIGINALLY BUT- I VIEW THIS AS-
AT LEAST UNDER THE CURRENT
CIRCUMSTANCES ESPECIALLY WITH.
THE PUSH BACK AND THE LACK OF
COOPERATION ON. WHAT WOULD
OTHERWISE BE LOCAL PROTECTIONS
STATE- YOU KNOW. BEFORE FOLKS
ARE SORT OF RACING EACH OTHER TO
BURY THE DEEPEST STRAW OR RUSHED
TO THE PUMP HOUSE OR ALL THE
OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING
. WE HAD MORE PROTECTION THE
PLACE I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD
BE NECESSARY BUT BECAUSE THOSE
AREN'T IN PLACE I THINK THIS IS.
SO I THINK IT'S THE NECESSARY
LEGISLATION AND I- THE FOUR
MONTHS ALLEGATION I'M NOT SURE
IF THAT'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO
THE BILL OR NOT IN TERMS THE
TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE. BUT MY
SENSE IS THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED
TO MAKING THIS PROCESS NOT JUST-
NON INTRUSIVE BUT ALSO
EXPEDITIOUS SO THAT IT REALLY
CAN BE- SORT OF A STRENGTHENING
PEACE INPUT DO YOU CARE TO
COMMENT ON THAT THAT SORT OF
CONCERN THAT THIS WOULD DERAIL
FOR. TAKING TOO MUCH TIME MAYBE
IN YOUR CLOSE TO IF YOU WISH
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL BUT I
THOUGHT GIVE ME A CHANCE TO
RESPOND ACTUALLY WE HAVE A
MOTION ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS
. SEEING NONE THEN YOU CAN CLOSE
IT INTO I'M SURE YOU'LL RESPOND
TO SENATOR STERN'S COMMENTS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THAT.
THAT IS ONE OF THE IMPORTANT
THINGS THAT- WE APPRECIATE TO
WORK WITH JUDICIAL COUNCIL AND
THE STATE WATER BOARD AND THE
NDW ARE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LENGTH OF
TIME WAS. BUT THE BIGGEST THING
IS THAT. WHEN THE PROPOSED
SETTLEMENT IS SAID OFFERED TO
THE COURT AT THE VERY INITIAL
MOMENT THIS STEP ALREADY HAS TO
BE DONE. AND SO I THINK IT
DOESN'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT
IMPACT AT ALL WHEREAS BEFORE THE
CONCERN WAS THE SETTLEMENT MIGHT
NOT BE. PRESENTED TO D. W. R.
UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE THE JUDGE WAS
GETTING READY TO FIGHT READY TO
FINALIZE A SETTLEMENT THAT
WOULD. POTENTIALLY CAUSE A
DELAY. THIS WILL BE MUCH EARLIER
IN THE PROCESS. AND SO I THINK
WHAT DID I THINK THERE SHOULD
NOT BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND
THAT'S PART OF WHY JUDICIAL
COUNCIL WAS MUCH MORE
COMFORTABLE WITH THIS APPROACH.
SO I COMPLETE YOUR- IT DOES
HAVE. ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
THAT'S WHAT I RECKON WITH
CURRENT. A WE DON'T NEED TO SET
IN THIS. HELLO THERE WERE VERY
PUMPED. SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS ITEM
NUMBER. A B. FIVE SIXTY THE
MOTION IS TO PASS A CERTAIN THE-
BURKE. WILK ALLEN I ALLEN I ASH
. CABALLERO TO DRESS. LAYERED HI
CLEARED I AM IN. MEN ONLINE
DEALER. THE LOW. STERN. STERN
I'M WIENER. I THINK THAT'S FOR
ONE AND WE WILL PUT THAT ON CALL
. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND
WALL WERE TAKING A WHILE NAY
BILL. AS MEMBER BAUER K. BEEN
WAITING HERE PATIENTS SO MEMBER
ADDIS IN. OUR SO LET'S GO TO SAY
MEMBER ADDISON AND. IT AND-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WE JUST WHO IS
MY HAD COMMON LEFT SO ASSEMBLY
MEMBER AT US- A. B. ELEVEN FOR
SEVEN WELCOME TO THE CAN. THANK
YOU SO MUCH CHAIR AND- SO I'M
HERE TO ASK YOUR- ON AB LET THEM
FOR SEVEN WHICH IS A BY PART P.
OF BUDGET. THAT WILL FIX AND
IMPROVE TO SERVICE FOR. WITH
JUST THE- I WANTED THE MANY
PASSION ARABIC OR- ANSWER. HAVE
SOME COUNT HOURS WORKING ON THIS
LEGISLATION TYPICALLY WE HAVE
ABOUT TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE SHOW UP
TO THE A HEARINGS AND MEETINGS
THAT WE'VE DONE AND SO. WE KNOW
THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO
PEOPLE ACROSS CALIFORNIA I DO
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
TODAY. SO AS YOU KNOW THERE'S AN
IMMENSE GAP BETWEEN THE SERVICES
THE INDIVIDUALS WITH
DISABILITIES NEED TO AND THE
ONES THAT THEY SERVE- SKEWS ME
THE ONES THAT THEY RECEIVE AND
I'VE WITNESSED THIS PERSONALLY
AS A SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER
PRIOR TO BE A LOT BEING ELECTED
TO THE STATE ASSEMBLY. THIS IS A
SPY THE CASE WITH CALIFORNIA'S
TWENTY ONE REGIONAL CENTERS
WHICH CONTRACT WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENTAL
SERVICES TO PROVIDE ASSESSMENT
DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY AND OFFER
CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR
INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL
AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
I IN JUNE OF TWENTY TWENTY TO
THE CALIFORNIA STATE AUDITOR
FOUND A NUMBER OF DEFICIENCIES
DISABILITY VOICES UNITED ALSO
FOUND THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE
TREATED SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT-
AND RECEIVE FAR FEWER SERVICES
THAN CAUCASIANS. THE PUBLIC
COUNCILS REPORT ON RACIAL AND
ETHNIC IN THE EQUITIES AMONG
CHILDREN SERVED IN THE REGIONAL
SOUND CENTERS FROM SIMILAR
DISPARITIES. AND THE LITTLE
HOOVER COMMISSION ALSO FOUND
ISSUES- SO WHILE THE DDS HAS-
EMBARKED ON A NUMBER OF
INITIATIVES TO IMPROVE THERE ARE
STILL ISSUES AROUND EQUITY
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
FOR THE SAKE OF THIS COMMITTEE
AB ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN AT THE
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUIREMENT
TO THE REGIONAL CENTERS WHICH
ARE CURRENTLY NOT SUBJECT TO
PUBLIC RECORDS DISCLOSURES.
DESPITE SERVING A PUBLIC PURPOSE
AND BEING FUNDED WITH GOVERNMENT
DOLLARS ALTHOUGH CLINTON
FAMILIES CAN OBTAIN SOME
INFORMATION FROM DDS. ONCE IT IS
PASSED ALONG FROM THE REGIONAL
CENTERS THE AVAILABLE AND
INFORMATION AS IN. AND WHAT WE
HEAR FROM ANY FAMILY AS IT IS
ABOUT THERE'S AN OPAQUE SYSTEM
WHERE THEY REALLY DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON- SO
BY ENACTING REFORMS CALIFORNIA
WILL SUPPORT AND HELP MEET THE
NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH
INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES. AND
WE HAVE DAVID PENNA SURE TO TEST
. IN SUPPORT. WHAT WELCOME BACK
TO THE SENATE. YOU HAVE 2% THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN US. DAVID
PATCHWORK TO SIT VOICE UNITED
ARE PROUD COSTA OF THIS
LEGISLATION DISABILITY VOICES
UNITED IS THE STATEWIDE
ORGANIZATION OF SELF ADVOCATES
AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO RECEIVE
REGIONAL CENTER SERVICES AND I
ACTUALLY HAVE A NEPHEW THAT'S
TWENTY YEARS OLD IT'S ONE OF
THEM. WE'RE URGING AN AYE VOTE
ON AB ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN TO
BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RESTORING
TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN THE
REGIONAL CENTERS THAT SERVE
ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND
CALIFORNIANS WITH INTELLECTUAL
AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
AT ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN CREATES A
PATHWAY TOWARDS GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY TRANSPARENCY AND
EQUITY. WITH RESPECT TO THE
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT IT'S ALSO AN
IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD IMPROVE
TRANSPARENCY SO THAT THE FOLKS
ON THE OUTSIDE HAVE A MUCH
BETTER IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON
ON THE INSIDE. INCLUDE YOU JUST
WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR HELPING TO GUIDE US THROUGH
THIS PROCESS AND OF COURSE OUR
AUTHOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER ANNA SUI
APERTURE. THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. IS THERE. ANOTHER
PRIMARY WITNESS IN SUPPORT.
SEEING NO ONE THIS WOULD BE THE
UPPER. FOR ANYONE TO DO A MEET
IN THIS ROOM. TO DO A MAY TWO IN
SUPPORT NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION. SEEING NONE ARE THERE
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS AMY WESTLING AND I'M WITH THE
ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL CENTER
AGENCIES ALSO KNOWN AS ARCA AND
WE PROBABLY REPRESENT THE TWENTY
ONE. REGIONAL CENTERS. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE
REGIONAL CENTERS ARE COMMITTED
TO TRANSPARENCY AND OUR
OPPOSITION TO THE REQUIREMENT
RELATED TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS
ACT. ISN'T RELATED TO AN ATTEMPT
TO HIDE THE INFORMATION IN FACT
ARE PROPOSED. AMENDMENT TO THIS
BILL WOULD HAVE INSTEAD MADE
MORE INFORMATION MORE READILY
AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT
LARGE. REGIONAL CENTERS POSTED
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION
ON THEIR WEBSITES. AND THEY
COMMUNICATE INFORMATION TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENTAL
SERVICES THROUGH DATA TRANSFERS
ON A DAILY OR MONTHLY BASIS
DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF
INFORMATION AS WELL AS ARE
SUBJECT TO AUDIT. AND ALL OF THE
INFORMATION OBTAINED THROUGH
AUDIT. IS THEN PUBLICLY
AVAILABLE AS WELL- THE ANALYSIS
NOTED THAT- THE SPONSORS HAD
STATED THAT AT TIMES THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENTAL
SERVICES DOES NOT HAVE THE
INFORMATION. THAT IT IS
STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO COLLECT
WE ARE COMMITTED TO-
STREAMLINING THAT PROCESS TO
WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THE
INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE
ALREADY OBLIGATED TO HAVE IN
THERE- IN THEIR HANDS SO THAT IT
CAN BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE- WE'RE
HAPPY TO DO THAT THROUGH
REGIONAL CENTER CONTRACT AND
ADDITIONALLY WE'RE HAPPY TO POST
INFORMATION THAT IS OF THE
GREATEST INTEREST. TO THE
GREATER PUBLIC- ON REGIONAL
CENTER WEBSITES RELATED TO THE
DECISION MAKING RELATED TO
PROCUREMENT OF- SERVICES WHICH
IS THE PIECE THAT WE'VE HEARD.
FROM THE SPONSORS THAT
INDIVIDUALS OFTEN FIND THE MOST
OPAQUE AND THE MOST DIFFICULT TO
NAVIGATE SO WITH ALL OF THAT WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN
APPOINTMENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM IN
OPPOSITION. SIGNAL ONE MODERATOR
THEN IT'S A TIME FOR YOU ARE
THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR ANYONE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN. TO JUST
STATE THEIR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO OVER TO MODERATOR
. THANK YOU AND TO SPEAK SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION OF AB ONE ONE FOUR
SEVEN PLEASE PRESS ONE ENTER
ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE
NO ONE IN Q. MESSENGER. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OF WILL BRING THE
MATTER BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. US
SENATOR NAY AND- THANK YOU THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR. I THINK THAT
THE CONCERN I'M GOING TO SUPPORT
THE BILL BUT I THINK THE
CONCERNS THAT- THE ASSOCIATION
HAS- ARE. LEGITIMATE AND I'M
WONDERING HAVE YOU. NOT AGREED
TO ACCEPT- AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT
SATISFY THEIR CONCERNS ARE YOU
STILL TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IT.
WHAT WE HAVE AGREED TO THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS- I THINK WE
BELIEVE THAT THE- RECORDS
REQUEST IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
THESE AGENCIES TO LAND THE
TRANSPARENCY IS THAT- I WOULD
SAY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ACROSS
CALIFORNIA ARE ASKING FOR-
CERTAINLY ALWAYS WILLING TO
ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION WITH
OPPOSITION AND- BUT ON THIS
PARTICULAR POINT I THINK IT ADDS
A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THAT- SO
MANY PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED THAT
IT'S HARD NOT TO RESPOND TO. AND
I GET THAT BUT IF I UNDERSTAND
CORRECTLY THIS ALSO ALLOWS A
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
RELATIVE TO THAT TRANSPARENCY
CORRECT. MAYBE I'LL TURN OVER
TOWARD LEAD WITNESS HERE. US THE
CENTER I THINK IT'S THE SAME
REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN- THE
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT SO IF THAT'S
WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. THAT
THE IS THAT I DON'T THINK
THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIAL THAT
WE'RE ADDING. OKAY THANK YOU FOR
THAT. WHEN THAT COMPLETE YOUR
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF SENATOR
STERN- JUST COMMENT AND MAYBE
CAN RESPOND IN YOUR YOUR
CLOTHES- THE IDEA OF. TRYING TO
GET TIMELY- USEFUL INFORMATION
PEOPLE WHO ARE DESPERATE FOR
SERVICES OUT THERE AND I KNOW
PEOPLE ARE OPERATING FROM THAT.
SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE
DESPERATE FOR SERVICE THEY DON'T
KNOW WHY CERTAIN THINGS HAVE
BEEN CLOSED AND OTHERS HAVEN'T.
THOSE ARE THE HEART BREAKING
STORIES THAT YOU KNOW CAN MAKE
OR BREAK FAMILIES ALL THE TIME
SO THIS IS HEAVY DUTY STUFF AND
I'M REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS
FORWARD I GUESS. TALK US THROUGH
IT MAYBE IN YOUR CLOTHES ARE YOU
SEE- THIS LEGISLATION TAKING
EFFECT. AND MAYBE AFTER THOUGH
THE WAVE OF P. R. A REQUEST OR
WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE SHOULD WE
SORT OF SEE HOW TO
OPERATIONALIZE THAT INFORMATION
RIGHT I MEAN I I'M I'M DRAWN TO
THIS IDEA OF LIKE SOMETHING MORE
LIKE A DASHBOARD OR SOMETHING
MORE LIKE. HAVING REALLY
PORTABLE AND SIMILAR METRICS.
SOME OF THAT WE WILL GET AS HE
PERRY BUT SOME OF IT WILL SORT
OF IT'LL ENGENDER AT MAYBE A NEW
DATA SHARING REGIME OUT OF THAT
THAT. BECOMES USEFUL TO THE TO
THE CLIENTS TOO AND SO JUST IF
YOU CAN SORT OF LOOK. TICKETS
AHEAD IN TERMS OF HOW YOU THINK
IS A FUNCTION AND IF THERE IS A
PATHWAY FOR SOMETHING THAT.
AGAIN BECOMES MORE OPERATIONAL
DATA AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO BE
BASED ON REQUEST ONLY ANSWER
THAT REACTIVE MODE BUT I'M
HAVING TO MAKE A MOTION THOUGH-
AND I'LL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION
AND LET ME ASK THAT COMPLETES
REQUESTED THAT. THEN IF THERE
ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. ARE WILL ALLOW YOU TO
CLOSE AN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION
IN YOUR CLOTHES WHY DO YOU
BELIEVE THE OPPOSITION US- I'M
BEEN OUT IN THE REGIONAL CENTERS
IN GENERAL AND ALL OF THE
SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE PUTTING A
LOT OF EFFORT INTO MAKING THE
CHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED. I WOULD
SAY IN THE IDEAL WORLD WE DON'T
SEE ONE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT
BECAUSE RACKED REQUEST BECAUSE
IT'S NOT NEEDED FOR A BECAUSE
THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THERE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT
DDS IS TAKING AND THIS IS ONE
PIECE OF A MUCH LARGER PUZZLE
YOUR IDEA OF A DASHBOARD IS A
WONDERFUL ONE I THINK- ARE
WITNESSES AND OTHER FOLKS
WORKING ON. YOU KNOW OTHER
ADVOCATES ARE WORKING ON
ACTIONABLE IDEAS THAT ARE GONNA.
BE HELPFUL TO CLIENTS BUT ALSO
THAT THE REGIONAL CENTERS ARE
STEPPING UP SO. I THINK IT IS A
WORK IN PROGRESS. AND THIS IS
ONE SMALL PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE.
AND I RISK. ASK FOR I WILL JUST
GOING TO ASK THAT WAS THE CASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
CLOTHES WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB
ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE NUMBER
. WILK ALLEN. ALLEN I ASHLEY HI
ASHLEY I CABALLERO. RUSSELL
LAYER BY LAYER I AM IN.
MAIENSCHEIN YELLOW HI. NEIL I
STERN RIGHT STERN I'M WIENER.
SIX ZERO YOU HAVE SIX VOTES
WHICH NORMALLY WOULD BE ENOUGH
BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON
CALLED WAIT FOR THE OTHER
MEMBERS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU SO MUCH. HARM R. J. R.
THE FILE ORDER SYSTEM CAUSES
PEOPLE STOMACH LINING TO EAT
AWAY AND- ASSEMBLY MEMBER AG WE
ARE. CURRY JUST WALKED IN. ISSUE
HERE. AND SENATOR BARK AND I
JUST PAUL JOSH YOU YOU'VE JUST
BEEN WAITING FOREVER AND
EVERYTIME YOU'RE ALMOST THERE
SOMEBODY WALKS IN. THIS IS THE
LAST OFFER BEFORE YOUR LISTED ON
THE FILE SO. CENTER I WILL R.
CURRY WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.
THIS IS OUR FILE ITEM SIX
ASSEMBLY BILL FOUR SEVENTY THREE
. NOBODY FOR MORE MEMBERS. I'M
HERE PRESENT A BEFORE SEVEN
THREE. WHICH UPDATE THE RULES
GOVERNING THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN AUTO DEALER FRANCHISEES
IN THE MANUFACTURING. FRANCHISE
ORES UNDER CALIFORNIA NEW MOTOR
VEHICLE FRANCHISE LAW. FIRST AND
FOREMOST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK.
SENATOR UMBERG FOR HIS SUPPORT
THEY WANT TO GIVE A THANKFUL
HEART FULL THANK TO- ALTHOUGH
COMMITTEE IN STAFF THAT WORKED
ON THIS BILL AND I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE REPEATEDLY
MET WITH YOUR STAFF WITH THE
STAFF THE MANUFACTURERS AND
THEIR ASSOCIATION WILL CONTINUE
TO DO SO. WE FEEL WE HAVE MADE
SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN
UNDERSTANDING EACH OTHER'S
POSITIONS EXCHANGING LANGUAGE
AND HAVE ALREADY TAKEN
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS
DURING THE PROCESS. WE HAVE
REMOVED THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL
CONTROVERSIAL PROVISION ON TIME
ALLOCATIONS FOR WARRANTY AND
RECALL WORK AND SEVERAL OTHER
SECTIONS OF THE BILL INCLUDING
TWO MORE WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TODAY. I
WILL CONTINUE WE WILL CONTINUE
TO ENGAGE WITH THE OPPOSITION.
SENATORS AB FOUR SEVEN THREE IS
ABOUT FAIRNESS GLOBAL AUTOMAKERS
ARE MASSIVE MULTINATIONAL
CORPORATIONS THAT ARE IN A MUCH
STRONGER POSITION IN THE
RELATIONSHIP WITH LOCAL
DEALERSHIPS. DEALERS ARE WILL
HOLD ITS DEPENDENT ON AUTO
MANUFACTURERS FOR THE SUPPLY OF
CARS TO SELL. IN THE PARTS USED
IN REPAIRS. LIKE ANY COMPLEX LAW
GOVERNING A DYNAMIC INDUSTRY.
THANK UPDATES OF THE FRANCHISE
LORE NEEDED TO ADDRESS CHANGE ME
HATERS AND CONDITIONS AND LEVEL
THE PLAYING FIELD IN THE
RELATIONSHIP. GIVEN YOUR FULL
AGENDA I WILL FOCUS OF MY
OPENING REMARKS AND JUST A FEW
PROVISIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS ON THE OTHER
PROVISIONS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST
PROVISIONS OF THE LAW PROTECTS
FRANCHISEES FROM DIRECT
COMPETITION FROM THE FRANCHISE
OR- THIS BILL CLARIFIES THAT
MANUFACTURES CANNOT DO THIS BY
CREATING OR ACQUIRING COMPANIES
ALREADY WILL REMAIN IN THEIR
CONTROL AND DIRECTLY COMPETE.
WITH THE FRANCHISEES. THIS
LEAVES CONSUMERS WITHOUT LOCAL
DEALERSHIPS AVAILABLE TO SERVICE
ARE VEHICLES AND REYES IT WILL
RESULT IN THE LOSS OF JOBS AND
SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR DISTRICT
. THIS PROTECTION DOES NOT
HINDER INNOVATION OR INVESTMENT
IN THE EEVEE SPACE MANUFACTURERS
ARE FREE TO INVEST IN IF YOU
START UPS. HOWEVER THEY CANNOT
CLAIM THAT SAYS SIT SUBSIDIARIES
MEANT TO UNDERMINE THE FRANCHISE
SYSTEM AND OUR LOCAL DEALERS ARE
INDEPENDENT COMPANIES. FOR
INSTANCE NEITHER REVISION NORTEL
SLOW ARE IMPACTED BY THE
COMPETITION PROVISIONS IN THIS
BILL EVEN THOUGH THE FORMER HAS
SIGNIFICANT BACKING FROM THE
MANUFACTURER. WE'VE AMENDED
THESE PROVISIONS TO ENSURE
CONSUMERS CAN GET SOFTWARE
UPDATES TO SERVICE OUR VEHICLES
OVER THE AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT
NEW COMPANIES CAN BE INTEGRATED
INTO THE FRANCHISE MODEL. TODAY
WE ARE MANY GET TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT DOES NOT IMPACT IMPACT
IMPACT FLEETS OR AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLE OPERATIONS. ANOTHER
IMPORTANT PROVISION OF THE BILL
PROVIDES NEEDED PROTECTION FOR
THE CONSUMERS TO SPLIT
SPECIFYING THAT AUTO
MANUFACTURERS CAN ONLY CHARGE
CONSUMERS SUBSCRIPTION FEES FOR
THE VEHICLE. FEATURES THE
REQUIRE ONGOING WORK AND COST OF
THE MANUFACTURE. THAT IS FAIR.
UNFORTUNATELY MANUFACTURERS PLAN
TO USE ON GOING SUBSCRIPTION
PRICING FOR AUTOMOTIVE FEATURES
THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE
CAR COSTS NOTHING TO ACTIVATE
AND REQUIRE NO ADDITIONAL WORK
BY THE MANUFACTURE HIDING THE
ACTUAL COST TO THE CONSUMER. THE
LANGUAGE IN THIS BILL IS SIMPLE.
IF YOU ARE GOING IF THERE ARE
ONGOING COSTS TO THE
MANUFACTURE. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE
TO CHARGE AN ONGOING
SUBSCRIPTION FEE. IF THERE ARE
NO ONGOING COST THEY NEED TO
CHANGE A FIX TO CHARGE A FIXED
ONE TIME FEE AT ANY TIME. THE
TIME THE CURRENT OR FUTURE OWNER
WISHES TO ACTIVATE THEM.
SUBSCRIPTION FOR CREEP OR JUNK
FEES HAVE BECOME SO PREVALENT
THAT THEY'RE EVEN RICHER
REFERRED TO IN THIS YEAR'S STATE
OF THE UNION ADDRESS. I'M GOING
COSTS FOR AUTOMOBILES ESPECIALLY
FOR FEATURES THAT IMPROVE SAFETY
SHOULD NOT BE HIDDEN AS AN ALA
CARTE ITEMS AND LIMPED INTO THE
SUBSCRIPTIONS WERE PRICING CAN
BE CHART CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
EVEN IF THERE ARE NO ONGOING
COSTS TO MANUFACTURE.
DISCLOSURES DO NOT SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM IT IS REASONABLE TO
EXPECT A CONSUMER TO IS
UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT A
CONSUMER TO FULLY GRASP THE
ADDITIONAL COST WHILE SIGNING
DOZENS OF DOCUMENTS DURING THE
FINAL MOMENTS. OF A VEHICLE
PURCHASE WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WILL
STOP WITHOUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROVISIONS
AND- FOR OTHERS ON IN THE BILL.
WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY TO
SUPPORT AB FOUR SEVEN THREES CAN
STAND HOPE OF THE CALIFORNIA NEW
COLOR A NEW CAR DEALERS
ASSOCIATION. AND ANTHONY BENTO
OF CNC DA IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO
ANSWER TECHNICAL AND LEGAL
QUESTIONS THANK YOU. WELCOME TO
THE COMMITTEE YOU HAVE UP TO TWO
MINUTES THANK YOU SIR. MISTER
CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN
STAND UP ON THE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS
ASSOCIATION. SPONSORS OF EIGHTY
FOUR SEVEN THREE I WOULD LIKE TO
USE MY TIME TODAY TO DISCUSS THE
DEALERS THE DEALERS NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY OF THE REMAINING
PROVISIONS IN THE BILL. WHICH IS
THE UNFAIR COMPETITION
PROVISION. CURRENT LAW PREVENTS
ANY FRANCHISE MANUFACTURE OR
THEIR AFFILIATES FROM COMPETING
WITH THEIR FRANCHISEE IN THE
SAME LINE MAKE THIS VEHICLE. THE
WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS
SIMPLE CAR DEALERS INVEST MONEY
INTO THEIR BUSINESSES. AND INTO
THEIR COMMUNITIES WITH THE VERY
REASONABLE AND FAIR EXPECTATION
THAT THEIR OWN FRANCHISE ORDERS
DO NOT COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH
THEM. IF EXPECT IS BREACHED VERY
EXISTENCE OF THE BUSINESS IS
CALLED INTO QUESTION. THE
PURPOSE OF THIS EXISTING UNFAIR
COMPETITION PROVISIONED- A
CURRENT LAW WAS NEVER INTENDED
TO ALLOW A FRANCHISE AUTOMAKERS
SIMPLY. REBRANDED LINE MAKE OR
CREATE A SUB. A SUBSIDIARY TO
CIRCUMVENT THE FRANCHISE ON TIRE
EARLY AND SELL DIRECT TO
CONSUMER AROUND THEIR EXISTING
DEALER NETWORK. AB FOUR SEVEN
THREE SIMPLY DOES WHAT THE LAW
WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO DO. BY
PRECLUDING THIS TYPE OF
PRACTICE. FOR REASONS WE DON'T
UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY SOME OF
THE OPPOSITION HAS ARGUED. THAT
THE UNFAIR COMPETITION
PROVISION. IS SOMEHOW. ANTI EVEY
OR STIFLE YOU THE CELLS IN
CALIFORNIA. WE AGREE WITH THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS WHEN IT
STATES AND I QUOTE. NOTHING IN
THIS BILL PREVENTS A COMPANY
FROM MANUFACTURING DVDS OR
SELLING EV'S IN THE STATE.
EXPANDING ON THAT A POINT IN THE
ANALYSIS OF THE COMPANY ISN'T IS
NOT AN AFFILIATE. OF A FRANCHISE
OR MANUFACTURE EIGHTY FOUR SEVEN
THREE DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT
THEM FROM SELLING. OUTSIDE THE
FRANCHISE SYSTEM AND DIRECT TO
CONSUMER WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT
TESLIN REVIEW AND THEY'RE DOING
RIGHT NOW AS THE AUTHOR NOTED WE
ARE NOT STOPPING THIS. WE ARE
NOT STOPPING ANY COMPANY FROM
DOING THE SAME. ADDITIONALLY
EIGHTY FOUR SEVEN THREE DOES NOT
PREVENT A SUBSIDIARY OR
AFFILIATE AS DEFINED. FROM USING
THEIR STATUS DEALER NETWORK OF
THEIR PARENT COMPANY TO SELL THE
REBRANDED VEHICLES IN
CALIFORNIA. THE LATTER IS
CURRENTLY HAPPENING TODAY WITH
SEVERAL FRANCHISE AUTOMAKERS A
GOOD EXAMPLE IS VOLVO THEY
CREATED AN ALL EASY BRAND CALLED
POLESTAR. THAT PROVIDES A TUSSLE
LIKE CONSUMER EXPERIENCE THAT
DOES NOT COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH
THEIR FRANCHISEE PARTNERS IN
FACT IT INVOLVES THEN ARE YOU
ALSO. ONLY PRIMARY WITNESS- YES
YES SIR THEN I'LL LET YOU GO A
LITTLE OVER THE TWO MINUTES
THANK YOU SIR YOU'VE REACHED
THAT. THE POLESTAR BRANDS BEING
SOLD TODAY CALIFORNIA WITH NO
ISSUES WE SUGGEST OTHER PHILLY
BRANDS ADOPTED. MÀ IF THEY
REMAIN A SUB. OF AN EXISTING
FRANCHISE OR AUTO AUTO MAKER IN
SOME EIGHTY FOUR SEVEN THREE
TAKES A MEASURED APPROACH RESULT
IN WHAT IS A SERIOUS THREAT-
WHAT IS A SERIOUS THREAT TO THE
DEALERS AND BUSINESSES IN YOUR
COMMUNITIES WITH THAT I'D LIKE
TO SAY. THE SPEAKER PRO TEM AND
OUR WONDERFUL STAFF. THEIR
FACILITATING GUIDED HOURS UPON
HOURS OF NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN
DEALERS AND MANUFACTURERS. THAT
HAVE RESULTED. IN A BETTER IN
BALANCE WAR BALANCE BILL TODAY
HEY. I WOULD ALL LIKE TO THINK
THE CAN BE MEMBERS AND STAFF FOR
ALL THEIR WORK. I WOULD ALSO
LIKE THIS THEY DO PARTNERS FOR
CONTINUING TO COME TO THE TABLE
WORK OUT AS MANY CONCERNS AS
POSSIBLE- TWO EIGHTY FOUR SEVEN
THREE. WITH THE REMOVAL AS THE
AUTHOR NOTED THE TIME WARRANTY
PROVISION. AND COUPLED WITH THE
AMENDMENTS TODAY IN THE
JUDICIARY ANALYSIS THAT THE
AUTHOR HAS ACCEPTED. WE ARE
PLEASED TO HAVE RESOLVED THE
REMAINING CONCERNS A TWO OF THE
LARGEST AUTO MAKERS IN THE
MANUFACTURE COALITION. C. N. C.
A. RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OF THIS WOULD BE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO DO A
ME TO IN SUPPORT THAT IN THE
ROOM. JUST YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR POSITION
OF SUPPORT. WELCOME JENZABAR ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA MOTORCYCLE
DEALERS ASSOCIATION SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VISITOR CENTERS BECAUSE IT TEARS
AND A CARMAX IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH SIR ANYONE ELSE.
SEEING NO. THEN WE WILL MOVE. TO
OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM. AND I
DON'T KNOW. MISTER MOFFETT ARE
YOU THE ONLY PRIMARY OPPOSITION.
THERE'S TWO THEN YOU EACH HAVE
UP TO TWO MINUTES WELCOME. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE JOHN MOFFETT ON BEHALF
OF THE ALLIANCE FOR AUTOMOTIVE
INNOVATION. WE APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S WORK IN THE
AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY THE
COMMITTEE. THEIR NUMBER OF
ISSUES REMAINING IN THE BILL
THAT THAT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO
RESOLVE I JUST LIKE TO FOCUS ON
ONE RAISED BY THE COMMITTEE IN
SECTION. B. OF THE ANALYSIS.
REGARDING SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES.
WE THINK THE BILL IS PREMATURE
IN THIS AREA THIS IS A PRACTICE
THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENING
RIGHT NOW BUT THE BILL BANS IT
BEFORE IT'S EVEN SOMETHING.
THAT'S EXPLORED OUT IN IN THE
MARKET PLACE- WE- THIS IS AN
AMAZING DEVICE. AND IT DOES WHAT
I WANTED TO DO AND IT DOESN'T DO
THE THINGS THEY DON'T WANT TO DO
AND I DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT ALL
UP FRONT. THERE'S NO REASON WHY
THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE WAY IT IS
GOING TODAY ESPECIALLY WITH THE
ADS IN VEHICLES CAN'T BE THE
SAME. RIGHT NOW YOU GO AND YOU
BUY A CAR IT'S GOT THE STANDARD
OPTIONS AND A PRICE FOR THAT
IT'S GOT ALL OF THE OTHER
ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AND THE PRICE
FOR THAT. AND YOU EITHER WANT
THAT CAR YOU DON'T. WE ENVISION
A FUTURE WHERE CARS ROLL OFF THE
LINE A MORE STANDARDIZED WAY IN
THE COULD BE TAILORED BY THE
CONSUMER. TO INCLUDE THE OPTIONS
THAT THEY WANT BUT NOT INCLUDE
THE OPTIONS THAT THEY DON'T
WANT. WE ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH
THE AUTHOR THOSE ARE DECISIONS
THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE MADE
BY THE CONSUMER IN THE FINANCE
ROOM AT THE DEALERSHIP.
SUBSCRIPTIONS AND OTHER TYPES OF
ACTIVATION FEATURES ARE
DECISIONS THAT CAN BE MADE BY
THE CONSUMER. TWO WEEKS TWO
MONTHS TWO YEARS AFTER THEY
PURCHASED THE CAR THEY CAN MAKE
DECISIONS ON HOW THEY WILL USE
THE CAR. HOW THEIR FAMILY WILL
USE THE CAR IT GIVES THEM
OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT
HAVING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THAT.
UP FRONT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING
TO USE IT OR NOT. THOSE SAME
PRINCIPLES APPLY TO THE NEXT
BUYER OF THAT VEHICLE. IF ALL
THINGS HAVE TO BE INCLUDED AT
THE BEGINNING IN THE PRICE OF
THE VEHICLE. THEN THAT USED CAR
BY IS- YOU'VE REACHED TWO
MINUTES CAN YOU WRAP UP. I WILL
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WE- WE-
ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE TODAY ON
THE BILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
THEN WE'LL HAVE THE OTHER
PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESS YOU
OF UP TO TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THEO PALES
REPRESENT FORD MOTORS. BUT WE
STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS OF
ELECTRICAL CHARGING PROVISIONS
IN THE BILL. WE HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT OTHER PROVISIONS BUT
BECAUSE OF LACK OF TIME. I JUST
LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE EEVEE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL. FORD HAS
TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY THE GOALS
THAT HAVE BEEN A LINE THROUGH
THE LAST TWO GOVERNORS. ON
ELECTRICAL VEHICLE SALES- I'D
LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS IN
FACT A FORD MACHI. THAT GOVERNOR
NEWSOM SIGNED THE PROHIBITION ON
INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES BY
TWENTY THIRTY FIVE. BY TWENTY
THIRTY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
FIVE MILLION EV'S ON THE CAR.
BOB SKEWS ME ON THE ROAD THIS IS
A MANDATE ON MANUFACTURERS IT'S
NOT A MANDATE ON OTHER DEALERS
ARE CONSUMERS. SO BY TWENTY
THIRTY WE HAVE TO GET FIVE
MILLION OF THESE ON THE ROAD WE
HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER ONE POINT
FIVE MILLION NOW. THAT'S A HUGE
RAMP. SO WE HAVE INSTITUTED A
PROGRAM IS CALLED THE FORTY V.
PROGRAM WHERE DEALERS CAN
VOLUNTARY OPT INTO THIS PROGRAM.
THEY GET THE BIG ALLOTMENT OF
ELECTRICAL VEHICLES. IN THIS
INSTANCE AND THEN WE ASK THAT
THEY ALSO PUT IN. THE HIGHEST
LEVEL THREE CHARGERS THAT ARE
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. OUR
INTENTION IS SO THAT FORD OWNERS
CAN USE THAT CHARGER WHEN THEY
NEED TO CHARGE AND THAT'LL BE
PUT ON THE FOURTH SOFTWARE KNOWN
AS FORT PASS. SO IF YOU'RE
DRIVING A MAKI OH ONE OF OUR
OTHER ELECTRIC VEHICLES WITH YOU
FOR LIKING ONE FIFTY. YOUR WORD
ABOUT CHARGING WELL YOU KNOW YOU
CAN ALWAYS GO TO YOUR DEALER AND
GET A CHARGE THERE AND THE
DEALER COULD PAY FOR THAT TO
REIMBURSE THEMSELVES FOR THE
COST. OF PUTTING THIS CHARGER
AND WE THINK THAT THIS WILL GO A
LONG WAY IN EASING THE CONCERN
OF PEOPLE ON RANGING SOCIETY. WE
BELIEVE IT'LL BE A EFFECTIVE
TOOL AND SELL ELECTRIC VEHICLES
AT THE PACE THAT WERE REQUIRED
TO IN CALIFORNIA. AND THAT WE
JUST ASK THAT. THAT PROVISION BE
MODEL FIDE AFTER THE COMMITTEE
HEARING SUCH THAT WE CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH DEALERS AND IMPLEMENT
PROGRAM BECAUSE WE THINK THIS IS
VITAL. TO ME MEETING THE STATE'S
UV- SALE REQUIREMENTS AND FOR
THAT REASON WE STILL REMAIN
OPPOSED THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMENTS. ARM THOSE ARE THE
TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS WOULD BE- OF.
THE MOMENT FOR ANYONE IN THE
COMMITTEE HEARING. ROOM TO DO A
ME TOO IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL JUST NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION IN OPPOSITION WELCOME
TO THE COMMITTEE. CHAIR MEMBERS
JONATHON FELDMAN ARE STRATEGIES
ON BEHALF OF BMW APPRECIATE THE
AUTHOR IN THE MEMBERS UP TO THIS
POINT BUT WE REMAIN OPPOSED.
THANK YOU. SELECTING WITH
SILICON LEADERSHIP GROUP WE ALSO
REMAIN. THANK YOU FOR YOU VERY
MUCH. WAS HE COULD DIE HERE ON
BEHALF OF TECHNO RESPECT POST
AMENDED. THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY. KIM SHOW ON THE OF SCOTT
MOTORS WITHIN OPPOSE LESSON
POSITION AND ALSO THE CIVIL.
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION THANKS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. INTEL WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURES TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY POST
THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE.
R. WE WILL NOW GO- MODERATOR TO
THE TELECONFERENCE ISTOMIN THIS
WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
ANYBODY ON THE LINE. A TO DO A
ME TO EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION NAME AFFILIATION. AND
POSITION MODERATOR OVER TO YOU.
THANK YOU TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE WILL GO TO LINE
FIFTY PARDON ME ONE FIFTY THREE
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MEMBERS
ACTUALLY WALK ON BEHALF OF THE
MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY COUNCIL AND
SPECIAL PDF AND FIX. HALF. A
SMALL I WAITING FOR EDUCATION.
ONCE EVERY FIVE. I'M BACK THE
NEXT THANK YOUNG. THANK YOU.
IMAGE HERE WHERE NO FURTHER
LINES IN. THANK YOU VERY- ARE WE
PUSH THAT WE'LL GET TO OUR SURE
SO. THEN LET'S BRING THE MATTER
BE THE COMMITTEE FOR. OR
COMMENTS. SAN ALAN. I'M HI I
LOVE TO DISCUSS THAT WHEN MR WHO
I WAS MINOR THAT- EARLIER IN THE
- NEGOTIATE THIS WHOLE OF THE
EEVEE CHARGER- HAVE BEEN AT
ADDED TO HAVE BEEN- THE NEW YORK
. AS THE SOUNDS OF THOUGH.
THAT'S BEEN MEAN NO LONGER BE
THE CASE FOR YEARS. NOT SEEING
TO EYE AND THAT. NO I THAT'S THE
CHAIR ONE IN A TWO YOU'RE
WILLING TO IS THAT OKAY SO. OKAY
NO FOREST YET SATISFIED WITH THE
PER IN IN THE BILL I SAY ARE
KIND TO ENGAGE. WITH THE ON THE
AND WE HAVE A- PROPOSAL ON THE
TWO. BUT WORST ON COME WITH
HAVING PAY FOR HOW OF THE OF THE
CHARGER WE'VE MADE A FIFTY
BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN
COMPLETELY REVAMPING OUR LINES
BUILDING A BATTERY MANUFACTURING
PLANT- ZERO CARBON CARBON
NEUTRAL BY THE WAY- BUT THAT
THIS WE WOULD EXPECT THE DEALERS
TO PICK UP THE FULL COST OF THE
CHARGING. PARTICULAR EMPHASIS
BEING USED FOR CUSTOMERS. THANK
YOU DISSECT GO COMPLETE YOUR
QUESTION ON THAT ISSUE YEAH AND
THEN I I'D LOVE TO GET- AND WHO
ARE YOU ABOUT TO DIRECT THIS
TIMES JUNE TWO BECAUSE YOU
POINTED TO THE AUDIENCE. WELL AB
KIRK OVER HERE. THE I'M I'M
HAVING A OF A- YOU KNOW WHAT
WE'RE MAY OR MAY BE ARMENIAN
MOFFETT MEAN THE IS VERY ABOUT
SOME. IT'S MY- THAT- THEY- BOB
THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES
OF SCRIPTS- BUT THAT THERE
REALLY FOR. ON HARDWIRE FEATURES
CAPABLE OF FUNCTIONING AT THE
TIME. THE BATS THAT'S WHERE THE
BILL'S FOCUSING IN THAT'S WHERE
THEY GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS
FROM PEOPLE WHERE. YOU KNOW. YO
YO. THERE BE A FEATURE TO KEEP
THE SEEDS- AND THEN THEY HAD IN
THE DEALER I GUESS HAS TO GOING
TO DEACTIVATE THAT FEATURE AND
THEN. THEY'RE CHARGING EIGHTEEN
BUCKS A MONTH TO BE ABLE TO.
KEEP YOUR SEATS HERE EVEN THOUGH
IS A FEATURE THAT WAS ALREADY.
INCLUDED IN THE CAR IS THAT IS
THAT. THAT KIND OF SUBSCRIPTION
I FIND REALLY ANNOYING- BUT BUT
I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER ONES
AND MAYBE WHAT THE SCOUT MODEL I
DON'T KNOW BYE BYE DO THE KIND
OF THINGS IT DID THE CONSUMERS
OF GEORGE AND I LOVE TO GET A
BETTER CLARITY AS TO. WHAT
EXACTLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE
WITH REGARDS TO. YOUR CONCERN
OVER SUBSCRIPTION LANGUAGE
THROUGH THE CHAIR MISTER
MOFFETT. OVER TO YOU. IF I MAY
THANK YOU SIR- YOUR CONFUSION IS
SHARED. THIS ISN'T HAPPENING
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
THIS WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE
FUTURE THAT'S WHY WE THINK
BANNING IT TODAY IS PREMATURE.
THE EXAMPLE THAT'S OUT THERE IS
HEATED SEATS THAT WAS NEVER
OFFERED IN THE WESTERN
HEMISPHERE OF THE WORLD. THAT
WAS FLOATED IN SOUTH KOREA AND
NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED BECAUSE
CONSUMERS PUSH BACK THE SYSTEM
WORKED RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S THE
EXAMPLE IT'S NEVER HAPPENED HERE
YET WE HAVE A BILL HERE IN
CALIFORNIA ADDRESSING AN ISSUE
THAT NEVER ACTUALLY OCCURRED IN
SOUTH KOREA. BUT THE UNDERLYING
PREMISE IS ACCURATE WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE MOVING
FORWARD. ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY
THAT'S BEING BUILT INTO VEHICLES
ADDITIONAL SOFTWARES. YOU KNOW
FROM THIRD PARTIES AND OTHERS
THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED WE DON'T
KNOW. UTILIZING THE COMPONENTS
OF THE VEHICLE THAT WILL BE HARD
WIRED INTO THE VEHICLE WHAT IT
MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE
FUTURE AND THAT'S WHY. OUR
PROPOSITION IS. CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS DISCLOSURE
CALIFORNIA LAW ALREADY INCLUDES
PROVISIONS ON AUTOMATIC RENEWAL
FOR SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES THAT
SHOULD CERTAINLY APPLY TO THIS.
BUT LET'S NOT BAN IT BEFORE WE
CAN BEFORE WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT
TECHNOLOGY MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN
THE VEHICLE MOVING FORWARD. OKAY
I REMEMBER READING OVER THE
LANGUAGE I YOU KNOW I AYE YOU'RE
RIGHT THERE'S A LOT OF US. I
HAVE- UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS I SUPPOSE
IN TERMS OF HOW TECHNOLOGY IS
GOING TO BE. GARY PRUITT
PROGRESSING I I'M LIKE I KNOW
I'VE I'VE SEEN THIS I MEAN
TRANSPORTATION HERE COMMITTEE IN
HERE AND EVERY TIME YOU'VE BEEN
MAKING REALLY SIGNIFICANT
PROGRESS ASSEMBLY MEMBER AND-
ADDRESSING YOU KNOW- VARIOUS
CONCERNS AND I'M I'M CERTAINLY
HAPPY TO CONTINUE THAT. TO VOTE
FOR THE BILL TODAY AND YOU KNOW
IT BUT I DO THINK I HOPE IT CAN
ADDITIONAL PROGRESS IS MADE-
MAYBE I MAKE A COMMENT. ABOUT
THE- SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THE
BILL DOESN'T IS NOT A BAN ON
SUBSCRIPTIONS. THE BILL ALLOWS
FOR CONFIGURATION BY THE USER
AND FUTURE USERS IT JUST SAYS
CAFE. GUIDELINES FOR THE USE OF
SUBSCRIPTIONS AND MAKING PRICING
MORE TRANSPARENT. SO WE'RE NOT
MANNING ANYTHING OR JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME
GUIDELINES OUT THERE SO JUST
WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR- IN THE
PAST MANUFACTURES DEFENDED-
SUBSCRIPTIONS. ON SAFETY
FEATURES LIKE BLIND SPOT ALERT
SO. THIS ONE AND THROW THAT OUT
YEAH I UNDERSTAND SO. I HAVE
EXPERT WITH A FREE ONE. MORE
YEAH THANK YOU AYE AYE THE BUT I
DO HOPE THAT THE- SOME
ADDITIONAL WORK GOES WORK WITH
FOR ON ON THEIR ON THEIR CHARGE-
PROGRAM AND IT IT'S A YOU KNOW
PROGRAM. IN THE WORLD TO THAN
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO BUT- AND WE
DO HAVE AMBITIOUS. GOALS AND-
YOU KNOW. I'M I'M NOT I WAS
HOPEFUL THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
FIGURE OUT SOME OF THE ISSUE
SAID THAT THEY'VE RAISED BECAUSE
THEY'RE THERE FOR A BIT. IS A
BIG PART OF OUR- OF OUR PLAN TO-
MEET MEET OUR OURS OF CALLS.
WELL WHAT I THINK IT MIGHT
DIFFER A LITTLE BIT IS THAT.
FORD WANTS DEALERS TO PAY FOR
PUBLIC CHARGERS. AND NOT FOR
THEIR CUSTOMERS SO. THERE'S A
LOT THERE'S A LOT THERE I JUST
DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS. WHAT
THEY WANT BUT- I DON'T OF KITTEN
WANTS TO SPEAK WHO DO YOU MIND.
WHEN WE WILL BE WHAT THEY WANT
AND AREN'T I WOULD YOU KNOW I
MEAN. OF BASED UPON ONE OF THE
WITNESSES WAS HERE. WELL I THINK
THERE IS MINOR THAT THEIR
CONCERN IS HOW THIS IS GOING TO
POTENTIALLY JAM UP THEIR
EXISTING. OUR PROGRAM FOR THE
ROLL OUT OF. OF CHARGING FOR
VEHICLES AROUND THE STATE TO AT
THAT DOES MINUS A BIT BUT I WAS
OF THE YEAR. THROUGH THE IF
YOU'VE GOT A BROUGH. ADDITION
YES SIR SO ON ON THE DC CHARGING
IS THAT FOR. ABOUT THEIR MAIN IS
THAT THEIR PROGRAM THEY'RE THE
ONLY ONLY- ONLY AND THAT IS
THREE. THAT IS ASKING DEALERS TO
BUILD OUT PUBLIC FACING I'M
SORRY- WE M. I'M SORRY- THE
MANUFACTURERS ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT
MANUFACTURER THANK YOU YEP.
THEY'RE THE ONLY THEY'RE THE
ONLY ONES TO THE PROGRAM THAT'S
REQUIRING DEALERS TO PUT A
PUBLIC FACING CHARGE ON THE LOT
THE ONLY THING WE'RE ASKING THEM
TO DO IN THE BILL. IS TO HAVE
SOME SKIN IN THE GAME AND SPLIT
THAT COST OF INSTALLATION AND
MAINTAINING THAT CHARGER. FOR
CHARGING PROGRAMS ARE REQUIRING
DEALERS TO HAVE A CHARGER ON
SITE FOR THE SALE AND SERVICE OF
THEIR INVENTORY. THE DEALERS ARE
WILLING TO FOOT THAT COST ON
THEIR OWN LIKE THEY DO WITH THE
REST THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THEIR
DEALERSHIP. THIS DOES NOTHING TO
PREVENT THE FORD MODEL THE
PROGRAM FROM MOVING FORWARD WE
JUST ASK THAT THEY HAVE SOME
SKIN IN THE GAME WHEN THEY ASK
US TO DO SOMETHING VERY NEW AND
ORIGINAL. WHICH IS TURNING OR
GET ARE TURNING OUR- OUR
DEALERSHIPS INTO CHARGING
STATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC WHICH WE
FIND VERY REASONABLE. THE OTHER
THINGS IN THE DC FAST CHARGING
WE PULLED OUT THE POLLING
EXCEPTION WE'VE ALSO CHANGED IT
FROM. ENCOURAGE THEM FROM THE
COURAGE TO COURSE MEANING THAT
THEIR PROGRAM IF IT'S NOT COURSE
ENOUGH TO DO IT WOULD NOT FALL
UNDER UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF
THE BILL. THAT'S THAT'S GOING IN
THE AMENDMENTS- TODAY AND
JUDICIARY. SO IT'S REALLY A
DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT
THEY WANT TO PAY FIFTY PERCENT.
FOR A PUBLIC CHARGING ON A
DEALERSHIP LOT AND THAT'S WHERE
WE'RE AT WE'RE STILL CONTINUING
TO HAVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM
ON AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE
THE OKAY I THOUGHT I HEARD. THE
GERMAN FROM FORD'S A- THE
VISITORS ABOUT ABOUT FOR
CUSTOMERS- RIGHT NOW IT'S IF
IT'S UP. FACE PROGRAM IS NOT FOR
FORD ONLY CUSTOMER. THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO
HAVE CALL. WITH WITH. ABOUT AND
THAT'S BE FORTY. OF STARTED
COME. OKAY GOOD. THANK YOU. THIS
PLEASE QUESTIONS. FOR CENTERED.
LOW URINE. THANK YOU. MISTER I-
ONE OF MANY MANY. HUNDREDS
PERHAPS THAT. OF FRANCHISEES IN
THE STATE SO. I DON'T REALLY
HAVE TO- REVIEWS ON THIS BUT IN
AND OF CALL. I WILL RECUSE
MYSELF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OF A WOMAN OF PEOPLE
BY THE TIME IT COMES TO.
ASCENDER STEARNS IN LINE AND
THEN SENATOR ASH. THANK YOU
THANK YOU SENATOR FOR THIS FOR-
AT. JUST LISTENED TO TEST. IF
LIKE. THE CENTRAL ISSUE AT LEAST
AROUND THIS CHARGING ONE IS THAT
IS A FIFTY FIFTY SPLIT THE RIGHT
NUMBER OR SORT OF WHAT IS WHAT
IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING FOR IT.
I KNOW YOU KEEP WORKING ON THAT
ISSUE- I KNOW THIS UNIQUE
PROGRAM- I THINK THE BILLS-
OVERALL IN GOOD SHAPE I THINK
THERE'S SPACE TO LAND THESE
THINGS I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A
MOTION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
I JUST WOULD SAY- YEAH I DO HOPE
BEFORE THE FLOOR LOOK WE DON'T
GET IN THE WAY IF THEY'RE IF
THEY'RE PUSHING OUT HI JIM FUEL
CELL CARS OR- EV'S OR WHATEVER
MAY BE. LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING IN
THE WAY OF IT AND TRY TO FIND
SOME. SOME ARRANGEMENT THAT'LL-
NOT FORCING A NEW BURDEN ON THE
DEALERS. BUT ALSO NOT BE A
DETERRENT TO THE MANUFACTURERS
I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND A WAY TO
LAND THAT THANK YOU THAT'S THE
PLAN. OKAY CENTER ASHLEY. YEAH I
WANNA. FOR ECHO THOSE SAME
COMMENTS TO SENATOR STERN THERE
THAT FIRST OF ALL THE THIRD. THE
TOUGH BECAUSE- IT'S IMPORTANT
INDUSTRY BUT YOU KNOW IT'S A
PARADIGM SHIFT AS YOU HAVE SAID
MANY TIMES I THINK DURING THESE
HEARINGS. WE HAVE THESE REALLY
BIG GOALS IN CALIFORNIA THIS IS
AN IMPORTANT INDUSTRY WE NEED TO
BRING ALONG WITH US YOU HAVE
GOOD ACTORS ON BOTH SIDES OF
THIS DISCUSSION. JUST HAVE A
REALLY GOOD AUTHOR. I KNOW
YOU'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT FOR AS
LONG AS YOU CAN BUT I ALSO JUST
WANTED TO CHIME IN TO SAY THAT.
WELL EVERY. LEGISLATIVE BILL
SHOULD SEEK TO DO SOMETHING GOOD
EVERY BILL CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
AND SO THIS MAY I DOUBT THIS
WILL BE THE LAST TIME WE SEE
THIS TOPIC I'M SURE THERE'LL BE
ANOTHER BILL. AFTER THIS THE
CONTINUES TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES. AND I APPRECIATE THE
AUTHOR LEAVING THE BREAD CRUMBS
THAT NEED TO BE THERE TO HAVE A
REALLY ROBUST DIALOGUE AROUND
THIS AND THAT. IN THE YEARS TO
COME. I'M THE LAST THING THAT I
JUST KINDA WANT TO SAY ON THIS
ONE IS THAT. YOU KNOW I THINK I.
EAT THAT ASSEMBLY WOMAN I GET
ARE HAS CURRY HAS DONE A REALLY
GOOD JOB HERE OF HAVING ROBUST
DIALOGUE I'VE BEEN. TRACKING
THIS BILL FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF. ISSUES
THAT YOU HAVE RESOLVED TO GET TO
THIS POINT AS IT IS SO I KNOW
YOU'LL KEEP WORKING ON THE LAST
FEW REMAINING. I THINK THE ISSUE
WITH MR PASS AND FORD IS REALLY
CLOSE. TO BEING RESOLVED
HOPEFULLY THAT ONE CAN BE. KIND
OF FINALIZED AND- AND THEN SOME
OF THE OTHER ISSUES IF WE DON'T
I GUESS MY COMMITMENT AS A NEW
SENATOR IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH YOU. MATTER WHAT HAPPENS
WITH THIS BILL TO WORK WITH THE
INDUSTRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE-
PUSH FORWARD AND WE BRING
EVERYBODY ALONG WHO'S WILLING TO
BE A GOOD. INNOVATOR PARTNER TO
SAY CALIFORNIA'S LOFTY GOALS.
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. THEN WE HAVE A MOTION
BY SENATOR STERN AND YOU CAN
CLOSE GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD
DISCUSSION TODAY AND I. I TOOK
THIS BILL ON BECAUSE I HAVE A
LOCAL DEALER HAS BEEN TELLING ME
FOR YEARS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS.
THIS BILL COULD SOLVE- WE HAVE
ALREADY TAKEN LIKE HE'S KNOWN
EXTENSIVE AMENDMENTS WE WILL
UNDOUBTEDLY TAKE MORE AS THE
PROCESS PROCEEDS TO MAKE THIS
BILL. AS BALANCED AS POSSIBLE. I
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
OPPOSITION. TODAY I'M ASKING YOU
TO SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES
AND THEIR EMPLOYEES. WHO WERE
DAILY TO ENSURE THAT OUR
COMMUNITIES CAN ACCESS AND
SERVICE MOTOR VEHICLES. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THEN YOU
CAN PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
ASSEMBLY BILL FOUR SEVEN THREE.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX A
BEFORE SEVEN THREE THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE NUMBER.
NUMBER I WILL CRY WILK AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN AYE ASHBY. ASHBY I
COPY. BRUSSEL RUSSELL I. HI
THERE I AM IN. BELOW STERN.
RIGHT STERN AYE WIENER. SEVEN
ZERO. VERY MUCH THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THAT'S ON CALL. THANKS FOR
HILL. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING HE
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HE SAID HE
CALLED YOU CENTER BY OKAY. I
SAID THAT THAT'S NOT QUITE
CORRECT AND HE'S- HE WILL BY THE
TIME THIS WEEK OR. SHE'S ALSO.
YES THIS I WAS JUST I WAS
SITTING HERE WAITING FOR THE
CHAIR TO COME THAT'S WHY WE ALL
LONG THAT'S THAT THAT WORKED OUT
NOW DO THAT. THE CHAIR WAS
ACTUALLY. THAT'S AND CHAU. ALL
RIGHT YOU. HAVE A YES THAT MR
TO. AT IS REALLY REACHING NURSES
AT ME TO AB FOR SEVENTY ONE AS
WELL IF YOU MIND ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU. AB BUT WE CAN START WITH
BILL AB SO TWENTY I WILL BE RE-
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT
BEFORE YOU KNOW SO THANK YOU
MEMBERS TODAY- I PRESENT AB SO
TO IT'S A SIM BUILT ENSURE ALL.
ARE PROVIDED IN LICENSE SETTINGS
ARE BY PER. ULTRASOUND ARE SOME
OF THEM INTO AND RIVER MEDIC
TESTS INDIVIDUAL CAN RISK. MR IT
ALTERS CAN THEIR BE UTTERLY
DEVON. UNLIKE OTHER STATES. IN
CALIFORNIA DO NOT REQUIRE S.
SIR. OR LICENSE. AMENDMENTS I
TOOK IN THIS COMMITTEE AS
PROMISED IN THE PRIOR COMMITTEE
EXPANDED EXEMPTIONS FOR LICENSE
PROVIDERS THAT I'M COMMITTED TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THE BILL
IS RESTRICTED TO UNLICENSED
ULTRASOUNDS ONLY- WITH ME IN
SUPPORT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RYAN
SPENCER WITH A CON BUT I THINK
HE'S DOWNSTAIRS ANOTHER BELT SO
- RUNNING OUT BY. TOLD ALL RIGHT
- SOME. IF YOU'RE IN OF A-
SEVENTY TWENTY PER APPROACH THE
MICRO. ALL RIGHT- YOUR COME
SUPPORT. PERFECT TIMING. WE'D
LIKE YOU TO RUN IN PLACE OF
PRESENT. MCCARTY TODAY SIR I'D.
THE P. TWENTY LITE YES RATE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS
RESIDENTS ARE BEHALF OF THE-
MEREKA COLLEGE OF KOBE YOU
INSTALLED AND SUPPORTED. TWENTY
WHERE ANY OTHER STATE IN THE- IT
TO HAVE TO ME RECENTLY PUBLIC
SAFETY AND NOW WE ALL FEEL IT.
OUR PROVIDERS UTILIZE ORDERS
CAMANCHE PREGNANCY AS WELL THANK
. MONOMERIC CONDITIONS ARE NOT
RELATED PREXY. SUCH CALLED
BECAUSE OF PAIN ABNORMAL URINE.
OR INFERTILITY. THERE PART OF
HEALTHCARE HE SHOULD TREATED AS
SUCH. STOP YOU LIGHT OR SOUND
UNRELATED A- NOTHING NAM STILL
HAVE NO THE OTHER. RIGHT PRINT
PEOPLE WITH PERMISSION. AND NOT
SELL TO HIPAA REQUIRED BY LAW.
TO MAINTAIN CLAY CONFIDENTIALITY
. HE COULDN'T IS THE USE OF
SOUND TO MOTION MANIPULATE AND
SHAME PRINT PEOPLE THE GUISE OF
AN- DIAGNOSIS THEM. ADDITIONALLY
WHETHER CURLING EVAN. OLDER
SOUNDS OR HARMFUL TO DEVELOP
FETUS IS POSSIBLE THAT AFFECTS
COULD BE IDENTIFIED IN.
THEREFORE CAL ANNULMENT USE OF
ALL SOUNDS. C. SHOULD BE AVOIDED
IMPORTANT ONLY FOR MEDICAL
REASONS BLACK HEALTH CARE FOR.
IN AB SEVENTY TWENTY CAN PROVIDE
THIS MESSAGE. BY ENSURING ALL
JUST ARE PERFORMED ONLY IN
REGULAR MEDICAL. THESE REASON
ACRE PORTS SEVEN TWENTY AND ASK
FOR YOUR ITEM THANK YOU FOR YOUR
MUCH OTHERS SUPPORT. PLEASE
BROUGHT. ALL RIGHTS ON A
APPROACH IS ROOM THOSE WHO ARE.
PLEASED MIKE. WE WERE THAT YOU
RUN THAT THE PLAYING AS- WELL-
ALL RIGHT SINGLE IN A PRO IN MY
FOR THE STERN TO THE- PHONE
LINES MY PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE
IN SUPPORT AND TO. SEVENTEEN
TWENTY. THIS AT SUPPORT OR A-
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO THIS
TIME. MISTER CHAIRMAN OF KNOWING
UP. THAT'S UNFORTUNATE- THE JUST
EIGHTY. ALL RIGHT. SO BRING IT
BACK TO. SEEING SOME RASH
REMOVES THE BILL ANYWAY COME OR
WHICH CARE CLOSE THAT YEAR I
THOUGHT. WE WANT VERY MUCH MA'AM
SIR CRITICAL THE ROLL. THIS IS
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AB SO TO THE
MOTION IS TO PASS A CENTER
APPROVED. AMBER I I'M BURGER
WILK NO LOOK NO OUT. ALLEN I
ASKED. ASHBY I COULD BE EURO.
RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED.
LAYERED I AM IN. MEN I NEED. THE
LOWER NO STERN. STERN AYE WIENER
. SEVENTY TWO SEVEN TWO THAT ON
CALL ALL RIGHT NOW IS. MEMBER
PETRIE-NORRIS IS A- WHICH IS
FILE I NUMBER. THIRTY TWO FIVE
SO ONE. THANK YOU MISTER TERENCE
I I'M A FIVE ONE A HALF OF
SOMEONE PITCHING WHICH BARRIERS
HEALTH CARE FOR FACE WHEN TRYING
OFFER REAP HEALTH SERVICES HERE
IN CALIFORNIA HERE IN CALIFORNIA
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN VERY
FOCUSED ON PROTECTING
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS BUT ONE OF
THE MAJOR BARRIERS TO ACCESS IS
THE COST AND AVAILABILITY. OF
LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR
PROVIDERS REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH
CARE PROVIDERS ARE OFTEN CHARGE
AN ARBITRARY SURCHARGE OR EVEN
DENIED LIABILITY INSURANCE-
ALTOGETHER BECAUSE THEY OFFER
ABORTIONS OR GENDER FOR GENDER
AFFIRMING SERVICES THIS BILL PER
HER HIT THAT DISCRIMINATION WILL
HELP ENSURE THAT HEALTH
PROVIDERS ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN
LIABILITY INSURANCE AND SERVE
THEIR PATIENTS WITH ME TODAY IN
SUPPORT- ALEXIS RODRIGUEZ FROM
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
AND RYAN SPENCER FROM THE
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
GYNECOLOGISTS. WHO CAUGHT HIS
BREATH BY NOW. INDEED THANK YOU
MISTER RYAN SPENCER PATH
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBGYN IS
JUST NINETY A CO SPONSORED
EIGHTY FIVE SEVENTY ONE. THE
TIMER STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
BRANDING EVAN SPACE LIFESAVING
ABORTION AND GENDER FOR ME CARE.
ECOG IS PROUD TO CALIFORNIA
SEEKS TO PROVIDE. PROTECT ACCESS
TO THIS CARE WE MADE GREAT
STRIDES TO ENSHRINE THE RIGHT TO
ABORTION STATE CONSTITUTION AND
REDUCE BARRIERS FOR PATIENTS TO
RECEIVE THIS CARE. HAN HANDLE
THESE ACTIONS WE SHOULD ALSO
FIND WAYS TO REDUCE BARRIERS FOR
PHYSICIANS AND OTHER HEALTHCARE
PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE THIS
ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE. THIS IS
WHERE EIGHTY FIVE SEVEN ONE
PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE OBGYN
ARE YOU PAY A LOT FOR MEDICAL
LIABILITY INSURANCE ACCORDING TO
RECENT RESEARCH POSITIONS MAY
NEED TO PURCHASE COSTLY ABORTION
WRITERS. WHICH IS CONCERNING
EVAN SUGGESTS THAT THE LARGE
PREMIUMS PROPORTION WRITERS ARE
NOT PROPORTIONAL TO THE TRUE
LIABILITY RISK. THE MEDICINE
THAT OUR POSITION PRACTICES EVAN
SPACE BUT AS ALL MEDICINE IS
ALSO FRAUGHT WITH POTENTIAL
RISK. HOWEVER WHAT IS NOT RISKY
PROVIDING ABORTION OR GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE. ABORTIONS ARE
SAFE PROCEDURES ARE MOST
COMMONLY NOT PERFORMED IN A
HOSPITAL OPERATING ROOM. THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF
ABORTIONS ARE COMPLETED. IN A
POSITION OFFICES OR EVEN A
POSITIONS HOME IF THEY. CHOOSE
TO HAVE A MEDICATION ABORTION.
THE CARD DIFFICULTY SOME
POSITIONS OTHER LESS PROVIDER.
IS A PROFESSIONAL I BILL
INSURANCE HAS IMPACT THE NUMBER
OF OTHERWISE ELIGIBLE PROTECT.
WHO COULD. THE DESPERATE NEEDED
SO. AND IN COLLEGE- OB JOANNE'S
IS PROUD SPONSOR. EIGHTY FIVE SO
. ONE AND I FOR YOUR SUPPORT
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE IN SUPPORT
OF AB FIVE SEVEN. GOOD MORNING
ALEXIS RODRIGUEZ OF THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTING FIFTY THOUSAND
PHYSICIANS AND MEDICAL STUDENTS
ACROSS THE STATE APOPKA SPONSOR
OF EIGHTY FIVE SEVENTY ONE. OF
THIS BILL WILL ENSURE THAT
LICENSE MEDICAL PROVIDERS WHO
OFFER ABORTION CONTRACEPTION OR
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE ARE NOT.
DENIED MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
INSURANCE COVERAGE OR CHARGE. AN
UNFAIR PREMIUM BECAUSE THEY'RE
PROVIDING CARE THAT HAS BEEN
OUTLAWED IN OTHER STATES. THANK
THAT ALL DECISION WAS ISSUED
MANY STATES HAVE IMPOSED
ABORTION RESTRICTIONS OR BANS
THAT MAKE. WHICH MEANS THAT
PHYSICIANS AND OTHER PROVIDERS
IN CALIFORNIA ARE TREATING OUT
ONLY CALIFORNIA PATIENTS. BUT IT
INCREASING NUMBER OF PATIENTS-
WHO HAVE TRAVELED TO CALIFORNIA
TO OBTAIN BASE BASIC HEALTH CARE
SERVICES. AB FIVE SEVENTY ONE IS
ONE OF THE FUTURE OF WORKING
COUNCIL BILLS AND IS NECESSARY
TO HELP PROTECT MEDICAL
PROVIDERS WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE BE
DENIED COVERAGE. OR CHARGED A
HIGHER PREMIUM THAN IS JUSTIFIED
FOR THEIR PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY
INSURANCE COVERAGE THEY NEED- IN
ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE
MEDICINE. THIS BILL WILL HELP
ENSURE THAT PATIENTS HAVE TIMELY
ACCESS TO CARE BECAUSE THEIR
PHYSICIAN OR OTHER LICENSED
MEDICAL PROVIDER WON'T HAVE A
BARRIER TO OBTAINING AND
MAINTAINING THEIR MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE COVERAGE. WITH THAT
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH THOSE
IN SUPPORT OF AB FIVE SEVENTY
ONE PLEASE PRO SMARTPHONE. GOOD
MORNING SYLVIA SOLELY STRONG
BEHALF FOR THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF PSYCHIATRISTS IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. SEE NO
ONE ELSE BRIDGE MY FROM- LET'S
NOW TURN THE OPPOSITION OF YOUR
POST AB FIVE SEVENTY ONE PLEASE
APPROACH MIKE FOCUSING KNOWN
APPROACHES MIKE- I'M SORRY GO
AHEAD. HI YES MY NAME IS- GREG
BIRD WITH A CALIFORNIA FAMILY
COUNCIL- IN THE OPPOSITION TO A.
B. A FIVE SEVEN ONE- I WAS WHAT
DO. BRING UP A COUPLE POINTS I
DID NOT SEE IN THE ANALYSIS-
IT'S- UNDERSTANDABLE THAT
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WANT TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM LAWSUIT-
KNOWING THE IN. PARTICULAR RISK
OF. EITHER LATE TERM ABORTIONS
OR- A GENDER AFFIRMING CARE- I'M
ALSO KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THE-
ANALYSIS DIDN'T MENTION THE TWO
LAWSUITS THERE ARE CURRENTLY-
BEEN FILED AGAINST KAIZER FOR
GIVING DOUBLE MASTECTOMIES TO
TWO TEENAGERS- WHO ARE BOTH. ONE
WAS THIRTEEN WITH FIFTEEN- BOTH
OF THESE TEENAGERS ARE FILING
LAWSUITS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND THE- IMPLICATIONS OF
DAMAGING THE REPRODUCTIVE
SYSTEMS AND- IN DOING PERMANENT
DAMAGE TO THEIR BODIES. A ONE OF
THOSE CASES IS CHLOE CALL SHE'S
MADE NATIONAL NEWS AROUND THE
COUNTRY TESTIFYING AGAINST BILLS
AGAINST GENDER AFFIRMING CARE ON
THE OTHER IS KAYLA THE WALLS
HE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE HERE.
TOMORROW TESTIFYING SEVERAL
BILLS- SHE HAD HEARD OF BREASTS
REMOVE AGE THIRTEEN- IF YOU ALSO
HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO
WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE
WORLD EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE
TURNING AWAY FROM GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE. FOR MINORS
BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUITS HAVE
BEEN FILED BY MINORS- BOTH
ENGLAND AND FINLAND AND SWEDEN
OR NOW NO LONGER DOING GERM-
GENDER FIRMING CARE BECAUSE. OF
THE RISKS AND THE SIDE EFFECTS.
THIS BILL DOESN'T TAKE INTO ANY
THAT INSURE. OF THE ALLIED
INSURANCE IS BASED ON RISK
RIGHT- AND SO INSURANCE
COMPANIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO
CHARGE BASED ON RISK- AND THIS
BILL KIND OF IGNORES THAT- SO
FOR THOSE REASONS WE ARE
OPPOSING THIS BILL THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ALL RIGHTY THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE SUPPOSED TO AB FIVE
SEVENTY ONE PLEASE APPROACH MIKE
FENCING KNOWN APPROACH TO
MICHAELIS DURING THE FALL MONTHS
MODERATE PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE
HERE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
AB FIVE SEVENTY ONE. THIS
BECAUSE OPPOSITION PRESS ONE
THEN THE ZERO AT THIS TIME. ONE
MOMENT PLEASE. LOCAL FIRST
ALIGNED. FIFTEEN NUMBER WITH THE
ERROR AND I WENT ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA NORTH MIDWIVES
ASSOCIATION. AND NARAL PRO
CHOICE CALIFORNIA BOTH IN
SUPPORT OF FUNCTIONS OF THE
CELLS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINE
. ONE THREE. IF YOU'RE A BURGLAR
MICHELLE BRAD MORE WORK THE
CALIFORNIA COMMISSION ON THE
STATUS AND GIRLS. FOR EIGHTY
FIVE SEVENTY ONE THANK YOU THANK
YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER LINE IN
Q. ALL RIGHT BRING BACK CLAY.
COMMENTS BACK MEMBERS SEVENTY.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOT
IDEOLOGICAL- AND I SUSPECT
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NO PART OF
THIS DISCUSSION I I'M QUITE SURE
THEY PROBABLY DO NOT WANT TO GET
INVOLVED IN THE PRO LIFE. OR PRO
CHOICE DEBATE- THEY ARE MERELY
BUSINESSES WHO SELL PROTECTION
TO PEOPLE FOR RISKS- BASED UPON
A PREMIUM THAT IS- SUPPOSED TO
ASSESS THAT RISK TO ALLOW THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES TO COLLECT
MORE IN PREMIUMS- I. FELT
LOSSES- NOW ARE. THE WITNESSES
TESTIFIED IN OPPOSITION STATED
THAT- THE BILL- IGNORES THIS
RISK ASSESSMENT IT DOESN'T. OF
THE BILL TAKES OVER THE RISK
ASSESSMENT. AND IF THIS BILL
PASSES THEN THE STATE HAS
DECIDED THAT WHATEVER RISK IS
INVOLVED IN THESE PARTICULAR
PROCEDURES DOESN'T EXIST AND- TO
THE EXTENT THAT IT DOES IS JUST
GOING TO INCREASE THE PREMIUMS
OF EVERYBODY ELSE. SO THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL
CONTINUE TO ASSESS THE RISK-
PRICE THEIR POLICIES ACCORDINGLY
AND TO THE EXTENT THAT STATE
POLICIES JUMP IN THE MIDDLE OF
THAT. THEY'LL ASSIGN PREMIUMS AS
A RESULT AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO
PAY MORE. ARE YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS IS
THERE MOTION. CENTER LAYERED
MOVES THE BILL WHICH COULD CLOSE
THANK YOU I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOT
HERE IN OPPOSITION THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FRIEND ABOUT
THE ROOM MUCH MA'AM SECTOR IF
YOU CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER THIRTY TWO AB FIVE
SEVEN ONE THE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE NUMBER HI. MARK I WILL
GROW LOOK NO ALLEN ALLEN AYE
ASHLEY ASHLEY I CABALLERO.
RUSSELL. RUSSELL I WEIRD. WEIRD
I AM IN. MEN I AM THE LOW. THE
LOW NO STERN. STERN AYE WIENER.
THANK YOU SEVENTY TWO SEVEN TO
PUT THAT ON CALL THANKS SENATORS
AND YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
FRIEDMAN FLOOR'S YOURS. ITEM
NUMBER TWELVE AB EIGHT. THANK
YOU TERROR AND MEMBERS IN THE
PAST IF YOU WANTED TO BUY A
TICKET TO AN EVENT YOU WOULD GO
TO THE BOX OFFICE YOU WOULD
STAND IN LINE. THE BOX OFFICE TO
TELL YOU WHAT SEATS WERE
AVAILABLE AND THE PRICE OF
TICKETS COST. YOU WOULD RECEIVE
A PAPER TICKET THAT THAT YOU
COULD USE TO ENTER THE VENUE-
AND IT WAS THOUGHT AT THE TIME
THAT. THE ONLINE EXPERIENCE ON
THE INTERNET WOULD MAKE BUYING
TICKETS EASIER FOR CONSUMERS AND
IN SOME WAYS THAT'S TRUE BUT IN
MANY WAYS THE OPPOSITE HAS
HAPPENED. THESE DAYS YOU MAY NOT
BE ABLE TO FIND THE PRICE FOR
THE COST OF A TICKET UNTIL
YOU'VE BEEN ONLINE FOR HOURS AND
FINALLY SNAG THE TICKET. YOU
THEN WILL PUT THE TICKET INTO AN
ELECTRONIC SHOPPING CART IN
OFTEN WATCH THAT TICKET PRICE
INCREASE EVERY TIME YOU CLICK
THROUGH A WHOLE SUCCESSION OF
WINDOWS TO GET TO WHERE YOU
FINALLY PURCHASED THE TICKET.
NOW THAT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT
ONLINE SELLERS HAVE DEVELOPED
THIS MODEL BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE
STUDIES AND THEY HAVE
PSYCHIATRISTS TO TELL THEM THAT
WHEN YOU GET A CONSUMER TO
INVEST A LOT OF TIME. IN TRYING
TO PURCHASE SOMETHING ON THE
INTERNET THAT AT THE END OF THAT
TIME THEY WILL FEEL THAT THEY
ARE OBLIGATED TO MAKE THAT
PURCHASE EVEN IF THE EVENTUAL
PURCHASE PRICE IS MORE THAN THEY
WOULD HAVE THAT THEY TOLD
THEMSELVES THEY WERE GOING TO
SPEND AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
CLICKED ON IF THEY HAD
ORIGINALLY SEEN THAT PRICE
ADVERTISED. THIS IS CALLED DRIP
PRICING. NOW THE AVERAGE TICKET
PRICES HAVE MORE THAN TRIPLED
SINCE THE NINETEEN NINETIES AND
THE FEES THAT ARE TACKED ON TO
EACH TICKET CAN BE AS HIGH AS
78% OF THE TICKET PRICE. WHAT
CONSUMERS ARE FEELING THE PINCH.
TICKET RETAILERS ARE DOING JUST
FINE. LAST MONTH TICKETMASTER
LIVE NATION ANNOUNCED RECORD
PROFITS REPORTING A TWENTY
TWENTY TWO OPERATING INCOME. OF
A HUNDRED AND 25% FROM PRE
PANDEMIC LEVELS. TO SEVEN
HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO MILLION
DOLLARS. AND REVENUE UP 44% TO
SIXTEEN POINT SEVEN BILLION
DOLLARS. OF THE LAWS GOVERNING
TICKET SELLERS. WERE PASSED
BEFORE THE INTERNET EVEN EXISTED
. THE FACT THAT'S BECOME
INCREASINGLY CLEAR IS MEGA
TICKET SELLERS AND RESELLERS
HAVE USED THESE RULES TO RIP OFF
CONSUMERS EAGER TO SEE THEIR
FAVORITE ART. ARTISTS IN TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN SHORTLY BEFORE
ABANDONING ALL IN PRICES ONE
TICKET RESELLER DIDN'T
EXPERIMENT. WERE HALF OF
SHOPPERS SAW ALL IN PRICING. AND
HAVE SAW THE LOWER BASE PRICE
WITH TAXES AND FEES ONLY ADDED
ON TO THE END. THE LATTER
STRATEGY OF DRIP PRICING
INCREASED REVENUE TWENTY
PERCENT. THAT'S NOT FAIR. AT THE
END OF THE PROCESS PEOPLE FEEL
THEY'RE LOCKED INTO THE
PURCHASE. AND WE ARE
MANIPULATING OUR CONSUMERS WE
NEED TO UPDATE THE LAW FOR HOW
TICKETS ARE SOLD TO MAKE SURE
THAT ARTISTS PERFORMERS AND
VENUES CAN REACH FANS AND CELTIC
IT'S AN EASIER AND MORE
TRANSPARENT WAY. AB EIGHT ADDS
IMPORTANT NEW CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS NOW WE STARTED THIS
BILL. WITH A LOT MORE CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS THAN YOU'RE SEEING
NOW. WE HAD A TRANSFER ABILITY
PART OF THIS BILL THAT ALLOWED
PEOPLE TO GIVE RICK GIVE THEIR
TICKETS AWAY OR SELL THEM
SOMETHING THAT'S OFTEN NOT
ALLOWED NOW. BUT BECAUSE OF
FIERCE OPPOSITION FROM THE
INDUSTRY WE'VE REDUCED IT TO
WHAT WE THINK IS REALLY KIND THE
LOWEST HANGING FRUIT AND SORT OF
NO BRAINER WHICH IS ALL IN
PRICING TO PROTECT CONSUMERS.
BEFORE THEY SPEND AN INORDINATE
AMOUNT OF TIME AND FACE THE
FRUSTRATION OF DRUG PRICING.
WITHOUT I WOULD TURN TO MY A CO
AUTHOR JACQUI IRWIN. THANK YOU
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN- THE
LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS THAT
CONSUMERS HAVE WITH THE
TICKETING INDUSTRY IS LONG SINCE
CONSUMERS HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO
PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE CURRENT
TICKETING MARKET PLACE. THIS
MONOPOLISTIC INDUSTRY HAS BECOME
EMBOLDENED IN THEIR DECEPTIVE
PRACTICES DEPRIVING CONSUMERS OF
NEEDED TRANSPARENCY. IN TICKET
ADVERTISING AND THE PURCHASE
PROCESS IN RESPONSE TO CONSUMER
FRUSTRATIONS ABA WILL UPDATE
CURRENT LAW. PROVIDING CONSUMERS
WITH TRANSPARENCY WHEN
PURCHASING A TICKET TO A LIVE
EVENT. SPECIFICALLY ABA WILL
REQUIRE THE FULL PRICE OF THE
TICKET AND FEES TO BE DISPLAYED
PRIOR TO SELECTING THE TICKET
FOR PURCHASE. PROHIBITING A
TICKET PRICE FROM INCREASING
DURING THE PURCHASING PROCESS.
THESE CONSUMER PROTECTION
PROVISIONS WILL APPLY TO ALL
PRIMARY AND SECONDARY TICKET
SELLERS. UPDATING PRIOR
TICKETING LAWS THAT HAVE
EXEMPTED PRIMARY TICKET BROKERS
LASTLY ABA WILL PROHIBIT A
TICKET SELLER FROM CHARGING MORE
FOR PRINTED TICKET IF THE EVENT
IS A CELLPHONE FREE EVENTS.
THROUGH THESE NEEDED PROVISIONS
ABA WILL PROTECT CONSUMERS LIKE
ME AND YOU FROM OUTDATED AND
DECEPTIVE MARKETPLACE PRACTICES
THAT HAVE FINANCIALLY HARMED ALL
OF US. MISTREATMENT AND I'VE
WORKED ON VARIOUS AMENDMENTS
THAT HAVE REMOVED NEARLY ALL THE
OPPOSITION AND WE LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUING THESE
CONVERSATIONS. OF FINALLY WITH
US THIS MORNING IN SUPPORT OR-
AFTERNOON ALMOST A IN SUPPORT OF
AB EIGHT IS REBEKAH MARKETS ON
BEHALF OF CALPERS THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING TURN MEMBERS
RECOMMEND HIS REPRESENTING HELP
HER CALPERS STATEWIDE CONSUMER
WATCHDOG AND ADVOCACY GROUP
WORKING TO PROTECT CALIFORNIANS
AND ENSURE A FAIR MARKET PLACE
WE'RE HERE TODAY AS PROUD
SPONSORS OF AB EIGHT. ONE OF THE
MOST BASIC TENETS OF CONSUMER
PROTECTION IS TRANSPARENCY
COMPLETE PRICING INFORMATION
SPECIFICALLY AS CRITICAL TO HELP
INFORM CONSUMERS PURCHASES AND
ENSURE A FAIR MARKET PLACE BUT
MORE AND MORE TICKET SELLERS ARE
VIOLATING THIS PRINCIPLE BY
BLINDSIDING CONSUMERS WITH
HIDDEN FEES. AND OTHER UNFAIR
TACTICS THAT CAN. MAKE IT HARD
TO FIND THE TRUE PRICE OF A
TECH. AB ADDRESS THIS ENSURING A
TICKETS I. PRICES ACTUAL. AND
ENSURE THAT C. LOCATION
INFORMATION AND REFUND POLICIES
ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CONSUMERS
AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE
ADDITIONALLY AB AIDS MOST RECENT
AMENDMENTS ADDED LANGUAGE TO
BETTER PROTECT CONSUMERS FROM
BOTS. THAT CAN QUICKLY BY LARGE
QUANTITIES OF TICKETS AND THEN
RESELL THEM AT INFLATED PRICES
OFTEN TO THE DETRIMENT OF REAL
CONSUMERS. BROAD PUBLIC SUPPORT
FOR TICKET REFORM THAT HAS BEEN
BREWING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS AND THESE REFORMS OFFERED
BY AB EIGHT ARE LONG OVERDUE. AS
WE EMERGE FROM THE WORST DAYS OF
THE CODE PANDEMIC CALIFORNIANS
ARE LOOKING FOR MORE AND MORE
OPPORTUNITIES. TO ENJOY LIVE
EVENTS AND AS PEOPLE RUSHED TO
BUY TICKETS FOR THESE EVENTS THE
BROKEN NATURE OF THE TICKET
SELLING SYSTEM. IS BECOMING MORE
AND MORE CLEAR AB EIGHT OFFERS
COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS THANK YOU
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR. ALL
RIGHT OTHERS IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
ROBERT PAROLE IS EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION CALIFORNIA WE
TECHNICALLY HAVE A SUPPORT IF
AMENDED. POSITION WE APPRECIATE
THE WORK THE AUTHORS TO PUT INTO
THE BILL WE KNOW HOW DIFFICULT
IT IS TO TAKE ON A MONOPOLY.
WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE IN THIS
INDUSTRY- WE- OUR FEAR IS THAT-
ALL IN PRICING. EIGHT MATTERS
HOW IT'S DONE AND BE WE FEAR
THAT JUST DOING ALL IN PRICING
PRECLUDES A MUCH MORE
COMPREHENSIVE SET OF REFORMS
THAT'S NECESSARY NOW. AND WHAT
THE INDUSTRY WILL DO IS THEY'LL
SAY OKAY ALL IN PRICING AND THEN
THEY'LL WAIT THREE FOUR FIVE TEN
FOREVER IF THEY CAN. TO DO THE
OTHER THINGS THAT ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR CONSUMERS IN THE
SPACE SO- WE HAVE SUPPORTED
AMENDED POSITION AND THE FOR
MORE COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE THANK
YOU. RT THANK YOU. I WAS IN
SUPPORT IT MINOR ON BEHALF OF
HIGH- WE ALSO HAVE IS A IF THE
MEN BECAUSE- WOULD. ECHO MANY OF
THE COMMENTS JUST MADE BY OUR
COLLEAGUES THAT CONSUMER FAD BUT
REALLY APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
DEDICATION ON THIS ISSUE- YOU
KNOW WE SUPPORTED THE BILL IN
ITS ORIGINAL FORM WHICH WE FELT
REALLY MOVE THE ENVELOPE WHEN IT
COMES TO TICKET REFORMS. I'M
DISAPPOINTED TO SEE IT BECOME
OVER YOU TO WATER DOWN OVER TIME
BUT LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS AND- THANK YOU.
ARE YOU THANK YOU OTHERS IS
SUPPORT PLEASE POST MIKE FROM
GIVE US YOUR NAME YOUR FILIATION
IN YOUR POSITION. THING KNOWN
APPROACHING LET'S TURN THE
OPPOSITION OF YOUR OPPOSED TO.
AB EIGHT PLEASE PRESS MICROPHONE
. ENTER GOVERNOR GOVERNMENT
ADVOCATES ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA'S FIVE MAJOR LEAGUE
BASEBALL TEAMS MLB IN THE SAN
FRANCISCO FORTY NINERS- WE HAVE
REMOVED OUR OPPOSITION ON THE
MEASURE I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHORS FOR WORKING WITH US. WE
APOLOGIZE FOR THE COMMITTEE FOR
NOT FORMALLY I THOUGHT WE DID
THAT AT A MEETING BUT ALL RIGHT.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT WE HAVE
TECHNICAL CHANGES THAT WE STILL
REQUEST ON THE FEE TRANSPARENCY
DEFINITION WHICH WE WILL HAVE
GONE WITH SO YOU ARE A TWEENER.
WE ARE A TWEENER ALRIGHT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT. OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION AB EIGHT THIS FAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE- MARC A
PREY ON HERE ON BEHALF OF AG.
AND ITS TICKETING DIVISION
ACCESS. AS WE DIDN'T SENATE
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS WE ASK
THAT THIS MEASURE BE HELD. AND
THE REASON IS THAT THE TWO
SENATE BILLS ONE BY SENATOR
CAFIERO AND CENTER WILK. ARE
HELD IN THE ASSEMBLY- THEY'LL BE
THE SUBJECT OF AN INTERIM
HEARING. SOME OF THE SAME
PROVISIONS AND A. B. H. R. AND
SENATE BILL SEVEN EIGHTY FIVE
AND WE THINK THAT. IN ORDER TO
GET TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE
REFORM. THAT THAT MR PEROT
TALKED ABOUT THAT EVERYBODY
OUGHT TO BE IN THE POOL AND
WE'RE RECOMMENDING. A BIPARTISAN
AND BICAMERAL INTERIM HEARING
PROCESS. ALONG WITH WORK GROUPS
SO THAT THESE ISSUES CAN BE-
FINALLY WORKED THROUGH. I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK YOU.
THIS CHAIR MEMBERS MY CAR ON
BEHALF OF LIFE. WE'RE ALSO WITH
I WANT TO SAY THAT I FRANKLY
AGREED WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE
AUTHOR SAID ABOUT. ALL IN
PRICING- WE AGREE WITH THEM WE
BELIEVE THE FIRST PRICE A
CONSUMER SEE SHOULD BE THE FINAL
PRICE THEY PAY. THAT SAID I
WOULD AGREE WITH MY FRIEND MR
PRAYER FROM- AG- IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT A COUPLE OF BILLS FLEW OUT
OF THIS HOUSE. WITH LARGE BI
PARTISAN VOTES AND ARE BEING
HELD UP IN THE ASSEMBLY AND IN
ORDER TO HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE
CONVERSATION. AGAIN THAT MR
PEROT REFERRED TO WE ARE A- WE
OUGHT TO HAVE- BOTH HOUSES
ENGAGED IN THIS AND ALL OF THE
BILLS ARE TO BE. PART OF THE MIX
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OTHERS
NAME AFFILIATION AND POSITION
TIM LYNCH ON BEHALF OF THE
GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS AND THANK
YOU TO THE AUTHORS FOR WORKING
WITH US WE'VE REMOVED OUR
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT
ANYONE ELSE. IN OPPOSITION
SAYING NO ONE ELSE PRO TO
MICHAEL LET'S TURN THE PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AB EIGHT
. TWO SPEAKERS FOR AND
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE THEN ZERO.
WILL GO FIRST TO LINE. ONE SIXTY
EIGHT. FIND ONE SIXTY EIGHT YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. ONE MORE TIME NINE
ONE SIXTY EIGHT IF YOU CHECK
YOUR MUTE FEATURE ON YOUR PHONE
. HEARING NOTHING WILL GO NEXT
TO LINE ONE SIXTY SIX. MISTER
SHARON MEMBERS ALEX TAURUS HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
INDEPENDENT VENUE ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA WE ARE IN A TWITTER
POSITION AS WELL WE'VE REMOVED
OUR OPPOSITION BUT WOULD ALIGN
OURSELVES WITH THE COMMENTS FROM
MR PRAYER. AND- MISTER CARPENTER
THANK YOU. LINE ONE SIXTY FIVE.
SENATE MAJORITY CONCORD I'M JUST
IN NINE EXPAND AND- I AM IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
MISTER CALDERON- FOR THE LINES
IN Q. ALL RIGHTY THANK YOU BRING
FACTS COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
COMMENTS. QUESTIONS COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS YES ANNA
CABALLERO. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR- SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT
THE THIS IS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE
INTERESTING- AREAS THAT I'VE
EVER DONE ANY WORK AND- THAT
COMMITTEE WILL REMEMBER THAT- I
TOO AM WORKING ON A BILL OF
THAT- WOULD CREATE THE KIND OF
CONSUMER PROTECTIONS THAT ARE
NEEDED IN. IN THIS WHOLE AREA OF
TICKET PURCHASING AND- EVERY
TIME YOU PUSH. IT'S LIKE A
BALLOON EVERY TIME YOU PUSH AND
ONE ONE POINT THE AND IT COMES
OUT IN THE AND THE OTHER POINT-
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS
BECAUSE- YOU KNOW IT IT'S EASY
TO. THANK YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER
TO ENSURE THAT THAT CONSUMERS
ARE PROTECTED. AND AND FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE THAT THE ARTISTS.
WHO ARE GIVING A PERFORMANCE GET
THE VALUE OF THEIR PERFORMANCE.
AND AND SO YOU WHEN YOU TALK TO
THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THEY
HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT
SHOULD HAPPEN IN SO- MY BILL HAS
BEEN MADE TO YOUR BILL IN THE
ASSEMBLY- AND COULDN'T GET IT
THROUGH THE COMMITTEES- IN ORDER
TO BE ABLE TO- KIND OF RESOLVE
ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT
THERE. AND AND I KNOW THAT-
SENATOR WELL BECAUSE ALSO BEEN
WORKING ON A ON A ON A BILL AS
WELL IN THIS IN THIS AREA WHAT
WE COMMITTED TO IS TO HOLD A
HEARING IN THE FALL. GET
EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE AND HAVE
A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER THE
PIECES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY
IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC-
PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF A
TICKETING SYSTEM- GET RID OF
BOTS- AND DONE AND REALLY-
PROVIDE A PROGRESSIVE WAY TO BE
ABLE TO DEAL WITH. THE GROWING
MONOPOLY THAT OCCURS WHEN YOU
HAVE- THE VENUES OWNED. BY TEAMS
THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF
LOOKING AT THE WORLD THEN THE
ARTISTS DO FOR EXAMPLE SO- I'M
I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL TODAY BECAUSE I THINK
THAT THIS IS THEY SHOULD BE PART
OF THE DISCUSSION AND PART OF
THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU START.
NEGOTIATING ONE PIECE THEN YOU
LOSE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE
THE REST OF IT AND IT BECOMES
HARDER BECAUSE- IT DOESN'T
SATISFY WHAT WHERE THE MAJORITY
OF THE GROUP. ONCE AND SO- I
WOULD ASK THAT THIS COMMITTEE-
HALL THIS FOR YOUR AND MAKE THAT
PART OF THE TWO YEAR PROCESS AND
JOIN THE HEARING IN THE FALL. SO
THAT- WE CAN MAKE IT A
BIPARTISAN BICAMERAL HEARING ON
HOW WE SHOULD DEAL WITH THE
TICKET SALES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. RT THANK YOU OTHER
COMMON QUESTIONS. SINGH NO OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IS THERE
MOTION. QUESTION YES AROUND SO I
KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND
FORTH BETWEEN THE HOUSE ON THIS
ISSUE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE
WHAT'S THE WITH THE COMMITTEES.
PREFERENCE ON THE TH OF THE
SHARES PREFERENCE ON THE SIDE.
DIVISION WELL THIS IS A IT IS TO
IS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE
SHOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE. AND
COLLECTIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT
THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE CHAIRS
OPINIONS IS THAT THERE SHOULD
BE. AS TO WHETHER OR NOT- WE'RE
GOING TO NOT PERMIT A VOTE-
THAT'S NOT. THE POLICY OF THE
CHAIR OF THAT EVERY BILL GETS A
HEARING IN TO THE EXTENT THE
AUTHOR WISHES EVERY BILL GETS A
VOTE. ARAMBULA MOVED WITH THE
DARK CENTER ALMOST THE BILL
THANK. YES YES THE RECIPE. I
THINK WHAT'S TRICKY ABOUT ISN'T
ACTUALLY THE BILL I. DON'T
REALLY DISAGREE WHAT'S IN THERE
IT'S- MORE THAT YOU KNOW ARE
SENATE COLLEAGUES. BILL HAS SORT
OF STOPPED AND- I'M NEW SO YOU
KNOW FOR ME I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT THAT MEANS BUT I'VE
SEEN SOME OTHER BILLS IN THE
PAST THAT KIND OF MERGE AT SOME
POINT AND FOR SOME REASON THIS
ONE. DIDN'T AND- I DON'T
NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH
WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR BILL IS
SEEKING TO IN FACT I THINK IT'S-
SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO HERS IS BUT
NOT DOESN'T GO QUITE AS FAR.
WHICH I'M GUESSING IS WHY YOURS
IS STILL STANDING AND MOVING
THROUGH AND HERS MAYBE ISN'T
BUT- I JUST THAT I'M HAVING A
HARD TIME CASTING A VOTE FOR IT
WITHOUT HERS HAVING MOVED
FORWARD TO. CAN I RESPOND. I'M
SURE. SO I FUNDAMENTALLY DON'T
BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS
HAVE A COMPLETE SOLUTION FOR
EVERY ISSUE BEFORE YOU. TRY TO
FIX PARTS THAT EVERYBODY AGREES
OUR PROBLEM. AND TO SAY THAT
CONSUMERS IN THE STATE SHOULD
WAIT ANOTHER YEAR WELL WE HAVE
AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW ON A PART OF
A PROBLEM. THAT IS RIPPING OFF
CONSUMERS AND FRUSTRATING
CONSUMERS TO ME IS NOT THE WAY
THAT WE SHOULD BE OPERATING. NOW
A MISS CABALLERO INTRODUCED A
BILL THAT DEALT WITH A WHOLE LOT
OF REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES
THINGS LIKE BOTS. AND OTHER
ISSUES THAT ARE BILL NEVER
TOUCHED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT ISSUES WHEN IT COMES
TO SELLING TICKETS. WE MAY OR
MAY NOT AT THE END OF THOSE
DISCUSSIONS HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE
SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE AGREES ON
WE HAVE NO IDEA. AND IT MAY BE
THAT TRYING TO WORK ON THE
ENTIRE INDUSTRY IN REFORMING THE
WHOLE INDUSTRY IN ONE GIANT
BILL. MAYBE THAT'LL HAPPEN MAYBE
IT WON'T I THINK IT PROBABLY
WON'T WE HAVE IN THIS BILL
ORIGINALLY HAD THE PRICE
TRANSPARENCY PEACE. BUT ALSO
DEALT A LOT WITH TICKET
TRANSFERABILITY. AND THAT'S
WHERE ACTUALLY ARE BILLS WERE IN
CONFLICT IT WAS OUR FUNDAMENTAL
BELIEF THAT ONCE A CONSUMER
PURCHASE A TICKET. IT SHOULD BE
UP TO THEM TO DECIDE IF THEY
WANT TO GIVE IT TO THEIR NEXT
DOOR NEIGHBOR. OR SELL IT OR
WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY WANT TO
DO WITH IT. MISS CABALLERO AND
HER SPONSORS HAD A DIFFERENT
VIEW THAT IT SHOULD BE MUCH MORE
UP TO THE YOU KNOW THE ORIGINAL
TICKET SELLER AS TO HOW THAT
TICKET WAS DISPOSED OF. SO WE
TOOK THAT PIECE OF OUR BILL OUT
THAT WAS IN CONFLICT WITH HER
BILL. AND WE HAVE ALSO OFFERED
FOR HER TO COME ON AS A AS AN
AUTHOR OF THIS BILL I KNOW THAT
YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN
THIS AREA AND I APPRECIATE WHAT
SHE'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. THIS
BILL NOW AS YOU HEARD IS A BILL
THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE
OPPOSITION IT'S SOMETHING THAT
IS NEEDED BY CONSUMERS. AND I
WOULD SAY THAT. YOU KNOW WE'VE
BEEN WORKING WITH OUR SPONSORS
FROM LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID
ANOTHER BILL. IN THIS AREA
ABOUT. A REFUND ABILITY WHEN
SHOWS WERE CANCELED OR
POSTPONED. AND THAT'S WHEN WE
BEGAN TO WORK ON THIS BILL. I
THINK IT'S A GREAT STRATEGY FOR
INDUSTRY TO ALWAYS INTRODUCE AN
OPPOSING BILL AND SAY WE DON'T
HAVE AGREEMENT NOTHING CAN GET
THROUGH. BUT IF WE DID THAT WE
WOULDN'T EVER BE. ABLE TO DO
EVEN THE INCREMENTAL CHANGES. TO
PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND FOR US NOW TO
HOLD THIS BILL FOR A YEAR. IS
TELLING CALIFORNIANS THAT YOU
KNOW WHAT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT
THAT WE- KIND OF SATISFY
EVERYBODY. THAN TO GIVE THEM
BASIC PROTECTION. DRIP PRICING
IS A SHADY. PRACTICE AND EVEN
THE INDUSTRY SAYING THEY DON'T
SUPPORT IT. WE SHOULD JUST PASS
THIS TODAY AND GIVE OUR
CONSUMERS PROTECTION THERE'S
ABSOLUTELY NO REASON IN THE
WORLD. AND IT REALLY IT'S ABOUT
THE PEOPLE AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS
ARE. AND NOT ANY INNER POLITICS
HERE THAT I WOULD SAY IS MORE
IMPORTANT. SENATE THROSSELL.
YEAH I JUST WANNA SAY THAT MY-
JUDGMENT AS TO HOW TO BUILD
TODAY WAS BASED ON WHAT WAS
PRESENTED IN THE BILL.
UNFORTUNATELY ALL THIS OTHER
STUFF THAT WAS GOING ON. WAS NOT
PART OF. MY DELIBERATIONS SO
TODAY I'M SUPPORTING THAT BUT- I
DO WANT TO KNOW. AND UNDERSTAND
WHAT ELSE GOING ON IF THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD OR
SHOULDN'T BE HELD BACK BUT TODAY
I'LL BE SUPPORTING. ALL RIGHT
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS-
SELF. YOU HAVE ANOTHER BUILDER
PRESENT I BELIEVE IS THAT RIGHT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN YES ALL
RIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA BREAK
RIGHT NOW FOR COCCUS AND THEN
I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME BACK
HOWEVER- AT ONE THIRTY- THERE'S
A SPECIAL ORDER. WITH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER I'M AND WHEN MINUTES I'M
GETTING OTHER COMMENTS ONE
SECOND.
I'M I'VE GOTTEN LOTS OF ADVICE-
SO. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE
GONNA BREAK FOR CAUCUS NOW A
WE'RE GONNA COME BACK- IF
THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENT BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS- I BELIEVE IS
A MOTION- WILL VOTE AS SOON AS
WE COME BACK AT THAT ONE THIRTY-
AND THEN- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
TAKE UP- SIMILAR MAIENSCHEIN AND
THEY WERE GONNA COME BACK TO YOU
AS A MEMBER FRIEDMAN. OKAY THANK
YOU.
WHAT WILL RENOUNCE IT WHEN WE
COME BACK ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S
BEEN A MOTION ON AB EIGHT BY
CENTER ALAN- BEFORE WE CAN
PROCEED TO OTHER BUSINESS WE'RE
GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON AB EIGHT
THEN- I SEE A SIMILAR
MAIENSCHEIN IS HERE AND AS
PROMISED WILL THEN GO TO SOME
REMEMBER MAIENSCHEIN THANK YOU
FOR YOUR PATIENCE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FRIEDMAN THEN WILL COME
BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT FROM THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WILL COME TO
ORDER- THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION
BY SENATOR ALAN ON A. B. EIGHT I
BELIEVE YOU OF CLOTHES IS THAT
CORRECT ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN
IF NOT GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT
WELL THE MEMBERS ARE HERE WHO
ARE GOING TO BE VOTING BUT I
WOULD JUST SAY THAT THIS IS NOT
A DISPUTE BETWEEN THE HOUSES
THIS IS SIMPLY A POLICY BILL.
THERE WAS ANOTHER POLICY BILL
THAT DID A DIFFERENT THING THAN
THIS BILL AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND
THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HOLD A BILL OR NOT HAVE A VOTE
ON A BILL THAT HAS ALMOST NO
OPPOSITION NOW. BECAUSE ANOTHER
PIECE OF POLICY THAT HAPPENS TO
BE IN THE SAME AREA IS MEETING
WITH STIFF RESISTANCE FROM
OPPONENTS- SO I WOULD JUST LET
THAT BE MY CLOTHES AND TO ME
IT'S A VERY CLEAR CHOICE BETWEEN
DOING THE OBVIOUS CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS THAT EVERYBODY
ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY SAYS IS
NECESSARY OR TAKING NO ACTION TO
PROTECT CONSUMERS. I ASSUME
YOU'RE DOING AN AYE VOTE I AM
ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE
AB EIGHT MOTIONS TO PASS THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS AMBERG AYE
BURKE AYE WILK ALAN ASHBY
CABALLERO RUSSELL LAYERED. MIN
BELOW STERN WIENER ONE TWO ZERO
ONE ZERO ALL RIGHT WE'RE GONNA
PUT THAT ON CALL ARE YOU THANK
YOU RIGHT SIMILAR MAIENSCHEIN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR CHAIRMAN
THE START WITH SEVENTEEN FIFTY
SEVEN IS. YES OKAY. HI AB
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN WILL
INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF
INTERNET WEBSITES BY
INCENTIVIZING COMPLIANCE WITH
OBJECTIVE STANDARDS GOVERNING
ACCESSIBILITY CLARIFY THE LAW.
IN REDUCE FRIVOLOUS LITIGATION
OVER THE ACCESSIBILITY OF
WEBSITES AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY
SEVEN DOES THREE MAIN THINGS
FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IT
CREATES A PRESUMPTION IN STATE
LAW THAT WEBSITE THAT MEETS THE
SPECIFIED. STANDARD COMPLIES
WITH STATE ACCESSIBILITY
REQUIREMENTS AND THEREFORE THE
BUSINESS OPERATING. THE WEBSITE
IS NOT LIABLE FOR DAMAGES UNDER
THE UNRUH ACT AT SECOND AB SIX
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN CLARIFIES
EXISTING LAWS AND SPECIFIES
WHAT. A PLAINTIFF MUST PROVE IN
A WEBSITE ACCESSIBILITY LAWSUIT-
AND DESPITE OPPOSITION CLAIMS
THIS DOES NOT CREATE NEW
LIABILITY ON THE PART OF THE
BUSINESS THE U. S. DOJ HAS
REPEATEDLY AFFIRMED THE
APPLICATION OF THE EIGHTY EIGHT
WEBSITES AND APPS OF PUBLIC
ACCOMMODATIONS. AS THE NINTH
CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS HAS
ALSO IN THE ROBLESS DECISION AND
THIRTY BE SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN
IMPOSES LIABILITY ON A WEBSITE
DESIGN COMPANY THAT
INTENTIONALLY OR KNOWINGLY
BUILDS A WEBSITE THAT DOES NOT
COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS SET
FORTH IN THE BILL OR
MISREPRESENTS OUR WEBSITE
COMPLIES WITH THE STANDARD. THIS
IS A FAIR WAY TO SHARE LIABILITY
AND COST ALLOWS A BUSINESS THAT
HIRES AT YOUR COMPANY TO RECOVER
ANY STATUTORY DAMAGES AND
ATTORNEYS FEES. PAID TO WEBSITES
USERS AND PUBLIC PROSECUTORS ARE
ALSO AUTHORIZED TO ENFORCE THE
LAW BAY OBTAINING INJUNCTIVE
RELIEF AGAINST WEBSITE DESIGNERS
WHO MISLEAD BUSINESSES AND
KNOWINGLY RECKLESSLY OR
INTENTIONALLY VIOLATE THE LAW.
AS A RESULT AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY
SEVEN IS AN IMPORTANT BILL THAT
WILL IMPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY
OF WEBSITES- AND PROTECT
BUSINESSES FROM FRIVOLOUS
LITIGATION WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. R. JAMIE HUFF AND CHRIS
MCKINLEY. ALREADY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. APPROACH BUT AFTER MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS TAKE ME UP ON
BEHALF CIVIL TO SYSTEM OF. AN
ARTICLE OF BUSINESS INTEREST IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF AB SEVENTEEN
FIFTY SEVEN. THE TECHNICIAN IS
ADVOCATE FOR POLICIES THAT
CREATE A FAIR AND BALANCED CIVIL
JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR ALL PARTIES
IN THE PROCESS. WE BELIEVE THAT
THIS BILL IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF
A TRUE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND THE
DISABILITY RIGHTS COMMUNITY A
RELATIONSHIP WE HOPE TO BUILD
UPON TO MEET OUR MUTUAL GOALS OF
GREATER ACCESSIBILITY IN
FAIRNESS IN EIGHTY EIGHT POLICY.
THE AMERICAN DISABILITY ACT WAS
CREATED TO PROTECT THOSE THE
DISABILITY FOR DISCRIMINATION
AND ENSURE THEY HAVE EQUAL
ACCESS TO PUBLIC PLACES. BUT THE
MONETIZATION OF THE ADA UNDER
CALIFORNIA LAW HAS ALLOWED A FEW
BAD ACTORS TO EXPLOIT THAT
LAUDABLE OBJECTION. AND TURN IT
INTO A MONEY MAKING VEHICLE THAT
HAS LESS TO DO WITH
ACCESSIBILITY AND MORE TO DO
WITH INCREASING PROFITS. AND
ALARMING AND GROWING TREND IN
THESE TYPES OF LAWSUITS IS
WEBSITE ACCESSIBILITY THESE
LAWSUITS ARE MOST HARMFUL TO
SMALL BUSINESSES A LARGE SHARE
WHICH ARE MINORITY WOMEN AND
FAMILY OWNED IN CALIFORNIA.
THERE IS A LACK OF CLEAR
STANDARDS IN THE DIGITAL SPACE
WE SAW IN OUR STATE A 23% SPIKE
JUST BETWEEN TWENTY NINETEEN TO
TWENTY. TWENTY OF THESE
LAWSUITS. THIS BILL ATTEMPTS TO
CURB THESE ABUSES BY GIVING
BUSINESSES WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO
ALIGN THEIR WEBSITE WITH THE
WEBSITE CONTENT ACCESSIBILITY
GUIDELINES FROM TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
A REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION TWO
YEARS WHEN FIGHTING SICK ON
LAWSUITS. WELL THIS BILL IS NOT
A CURE ALL FOR ALL LAWSUIT
ABUSES UNDER EIGHTY EIGHT IT IS
A STARTING PLACE. THE TECH
BELIEVES IN THE REFORMS THAT
MAKE THE ADA MORE ACCESSIBLE.
AND EFFECTIVE FOR THOSE IT WAS
DESIGNED TO PROTECT. BUT WE
BELIEVE WE CAN MEET THAT
OBJECTIVE WHILE ALSO REDUCING
THE NUMBER OF FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS
WE APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR.
ASSEMBLY CHIEF COUNSEL AND YOUR
OWN STAFF FOR THEIR GREAT WORK
ON THIS. ALREADY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON THIS
CHAIRMAN. KAYLEE ON BEHALF THE
LOSS IN AREA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE. SO THE- THAT WE'RE
DEALING WITH HERE IS THE AND WE
CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IN A VIOLATION
UNDER THE ADA IS ALSO A
VIOLATION OF THE UNRUH. ACT
WHICH MEANS A MINIMUM FOUR
THOUSAND DOLLARS STATUTORY
PENALTY. AND UNFORTUNATELY WE
ARE LACKING CLEAR GUIDANCE- IN
HOW A WEBSITE IS TO COMPLY. TO
ENSURE THAT IT IS ADA COMPLIANT
AS YOU KNOW THE BILL CREATES A
REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION NOW THIS
. THE W. THREE C. IS A GUIDELINE
AND EVEN IF ITSELF SAYS. YOU
DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY A 100% WITH
IT. BUT IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE
TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND I FIND IT
FASCINATING THAT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WHICH IS HARDLY
KNOWN. AS BEING SUCCESSFUL WHEN
IT COMES TO A LOT OF IT
PROJECTS. AS REQUIRED FOR THE
LAST FIVE YEARS FOR STATE AGENCY
WEBSITES TO CERTIFY. THEIR
COMPLIANCE WITH THESE
GUIDELINES. AND SO BY CREATING
THE REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION WE
THINK THAT IT STRIKES THE RIGHT
BALANCE BETWEEN. ENSURING AND
ACCESSIBILITY. FOR THE DISABLED
COMMUNITY AND ENSURING THAT
EMPLOYERS AND BUSINESSES ARE NOT
GOING TO BE STUCK WITH A LOT OF
FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS. IT'S ALREADY
BEEN UTILIZED BY COURTS AROUND
THE STATE IN PARTICULAR I THINK
ON PAGES TEN AND ELEVEN OF THE
MAY I SAY EXCELLENT ANALYSIS BY
YOUR CHIEF COUNSEL. IN THIS
REGARD SETS FORTH A LOT OF
EXAMPLES WHERE THE COURTS HAVE
USED THEM IN EITHER SETTLEMENTS
OR IN OTHER TYPES OF ORDERS. AND
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF'S
ENGAGEMENT OF COURSE THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE OF YOUR
COUNTERPART IN THE IN THE
ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND
HIS STAFF AS WELL AND- JUROR I
VOTE MISTER CHAIRMAN THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MR MCHALE YOU ALWAYS
GET EXTRA POINTS FOR
INGRATIATING YOURSELF WITH STAFF
ITSELF ALL RIGHT OTHERS IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON DAN OPEN
FOR US REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION FOR
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON KATIE TV WITH A
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT-
ANY OTHER ANY OTHER THAN SPORTS
THING NO ONE ELSE APPROACH.
LET'S NOW TURN TO THE OPPOSITION
IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO A. B.
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE SAYING
NO ONE OH I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
VOICE MY CONCERNS ABOUT AB
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN. I'M IN A
UNIQUE POSITION TO SPEAK HERE
TODAY BECAUSE I'M BOTH A
PERSON'S WITH DISABILITY WHO
RELIES ON THE ADA LAWS AND A
BUSINESS OWNER WHO WAS RECENTLY
TARGETED. BY FRIVOLOUS ADA
LAWSUITS OF DURING COVERT MY
FAMILY BUSINESS- RECEIVED A
NOTICE THAT WE'RE- BEING. HIT
WITH A LAWSUIT- REGARDING OUR
WEBSITE'S ACCESSIBILITY I
LEARNED OUR WEBSITE DID INDEED
NEED TO BE FIXED WITH SOME
ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES AND I WENT
TO WORK BUT WE WERE GIVEN THE
CHANCE TO FIX IT BEFORE THE
LAWSUIT WAS FILED. AS THEY WORK
TO FIX IT I LEARNED THAT WE WERE
ONE OF SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT
HAVE BEEN SUED BY THE SAME
SERIAL PLAINTIFF FROM FLORIDA.
USING CALIFORNIA LAWYERS TO
EXTRACT SETTLEMENTS FROM
CALIFORNIA SMALL BUSINESSES
OBVIOUSLY THE POINT OF THIS WAS
TO MAKE MONEY NOT TO CREATE MORE
ACCESSIBILITY THIS WAS NOT
RIGHT. I ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF
LAWS THAT PROTECT AND STRENGTHEN
THE RIGHTS OF THE DISABLED AS I
MYSELF. USE A WHEELCHAIR 1100%
OF THE TIME. BUT ANY LEGISLATION
SHOULD RESULT IN INCREASED
COMPLIANCE WITH THE ADA
STANDARDS AND PROTECT.
BUSINESSES FROM FRIVOLOUS
LAWSUITS BY GIVING US A CHANCE
TO. SECURE THE INFRACTION IF
IT'S NOT FIXED AFTER A
REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME YEAH
BRING ON THE LAWSUIT. I'M
ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF THOSE
LAWS- ANY LEGISLATION PROPOSED
SHOULD BE ACHIEVABLE AND
REALISTIC AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY
SEVEN IS NEITHER. IT WILL ONLY
BENEFIT LAWYERS WHO FILE
PREDATORY LAWSUITS AGAINST SMALL
BUSINESSES. THIS BILL WILL
INCREASE EIGHTY A WEBSITE
LITIGATION IT IS ALLOWS LAWSUITS
AGAINST ANYONE WHO'S WORKED ON
THE WEBSITE TO BE SUED IF IT'S
NOT. IN 1100% COMPLIANCE WITH
THE EVERY FALL THING
ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES. THAT
DEFINITELY INCLUDES ME AND- I
UNDERSTAND THAT- EVERYONE UP ON
THE DICE HERE HAS A WEBSITE AND
NONE OF THEM ARE COMPLIANT. AND
WOULDN'T INTERNET RIGHT TO BE
MADE AWARE OF THIS AND GIVEN A
CHANCE TO FIX IT BEFORE SOMEBODY
SEES YOU. THERE SHOULD BE
LEGISLATION TO REQUIRE
ACCESSIBILITY AND PROTECT
BUSINESSES AT THE SAME TIME. AB
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN IS NOT
THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT. THANKS MY NAME IS
SUSAN TUCKER I'M SELF EMPLOYED
AND SUPPORT MY FAMILY BY MAKING
VIDEOS FOR VARIOUS BRANDS. I
DROVE SEVEN HOURS FROM BEING A
POINT TO TELL YOU ABOUT HOW
REGULAR PEOPLE. MOSTLY MINORITY
BUSINESS OWNERS IN TINY RESOURCE
PROVIDERS WILL GROUP PROVIDERS
WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY
AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN. I
AGREE WITH THE PREMISE IS STATED
BY SEJAK. ANY HONORABLE ARE
AUTHORS OF THIS BILL. BUT THE
BILL FALSELY ASSUMES WCAG
COMPLIANCE FOR WEBSITES CAN BE
OBJECTIVELY TESTED. AND THAT'S
WHY PRESUMPTION OF COMPLIANCE
WITH WCAG WILL NOT REDUCE
LAWSUITS OR PROTECT BUSINESSES
WHO CAN'T GO TO TRIAL. ALL IT
WILL DO IS INCREASE HOW MANY
DEFENDANTS CAN BE SUED BY A
PLAINTIFF ATTORNEY. THEREBY
INCREASING THE MONEY POT. WE
AGREE BUSINESSES NEED TO KNOW
WHAT TO DO TO AVOID
ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES BUT FULL
COMPLIANCE WITH WCAG IS
EXTREMELY HARD TO ACHIEVE GIVEN
HOW TECHNOLOGY WORKS. LET ALONE
MAINTAIN 1100% OF THE TIME. THE
DEMO THIS WE MANUALLY TESTED ALL
OF YOUR WEBSITES THE STATE'S
WEBSITE AND EVEN THAT OF THE
SPONSORS OF THIS BILL INCLUDING
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA.
WHOSE DROP DOWN MENU AS OF THIS
MEANT MORNING DOESN'T WORK
CORRECTLY WITH THE KEYBOARD IS
THIS INTENTIONAL OF COURSE NOT.
IF ALL OF YOUR WEBSITES CAN
COMPLIANT CANNOT COMPLY 1100%
WITH WCG EVEN THOUGH IT'S
REQUIRED WITH THE AND WITH THE
IS EVEN THOUGH IT'S REQUIRED BY
LAW. WITH THE IMMENSE RESOURCES
PROVIDED TO YOU HOW CAN YOU
LEGISLATE THAT FOR EXAMPLE A
SURF SHOP IN ORANGE COUNTY WHO
HIRES A LOCAL GRAPHIC DESIGNER
FOR THEIR SITE TO. FOR YOUR SIDE
ACHIEVED FULL COMPLIANCE BY
JANUARY ONE OR ELSE TODAY AND
THEIR SMALL RESOURCE PROVIDER BE
SUED FOR STATUTORY PENALTIES PER
VISIT TO A WEBSITE. AND PULLING
IT PAYMENT FOR PLAINTIFF
ATTORNEY FEES. THE BILL DOESN'T
FACTOR IN THE ECOSYSTEM OF HOW
WEBSITES FOR ME UPDATED AND HOW.
ACCESSIBILITY OF A WEBSITE CAN
BREAK AT ANY MOMENT WITH EVEN A
MINOR TECHNICAL BUG. THE REAL
WINNERS OF AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY
SEVEN WILL BE THESE PREDATORY
LAWYERS. I URGE YOU PLEASE STOP
THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT OTHERS WHO
WERE IN OPPOSITION TO AB
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN. PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. HI MY
NAME IS NIGH AND PADRE I'M A
FILMMAKER AND A SMALL BUSINESS
OWNER HERE IN CALIFORNIA IN
CALABASAS AREA. THUNDERSTORMS
ONE OF MY BUSINESSES LISTED
UNDER ALREADY IT ARE YOU IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION ADDITION
OPPOSITION ALL RIGHT. I MEAN IN
YOUR NAME IS NOW I AM PART RIGHT
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT OTHERS WHO WERE IN
OPPOSITION AB SEVENTY FIFTY
SEVEN. R. O. C. NO ONE ELSE
PUSHED MICHAEL LET'S NOW TURN TO
THE PHONE LINES MODERATE PLEASE
QUEUE UP THOSE ARE IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION AB SEVENTEEN
FIFTY SEVEN. OF COURSE PLAYED IN
DEMONSTRATIONS YOU CAN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL BE
GOING TO LINE ONE NINETY PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON AND
THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY
TESTIMONY I AM ANDREW SUMMERS
I'M A DISABLED WITH LOW VISION
AND ALSO RESEARCHING SOLUTIONS
FOR HELPING ACCESSIBILITY OF
VISUAL CONTENT. I AM AN INVITED
EXPERT OF THE WORLD WIDE WEB
CONSORTIUM ALREADY HOWEVER THANK
YOU SIR DAVID THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. YOUR NAME AND YOUR
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION. RT
THANK YOU NEXT CALL PLEASE.
EXTRA GO TO LINE CHIU FORTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. RIGHT THAT
THEIR APOLLO AND I MEAN FOR ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION THANK YOU
. THAT'S ANOTHER LINE TWO FIFTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. A WHITE
THE- MONDAY HAPPENED DISABILITY
RIGHT CALIFORNIA WE ARE APART
THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE LINE TWO
SEVENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. JENNY
FROM THE END FROM RESPECTABILITY
WE'RE A BIPARTISAN NONPROFIT
FORTY PEOPLE DISABILITIES YOUR
INBOX THANK YOU. THAT'S THE LINE
TO- THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. TWO
OR THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
THANK YOU. THAT'S WILL GO TO
LINE TO FOURTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. TO FOURTEEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN
. IN ORDER LINE TO THIRTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE ALABASTER
DALY CITY. AND AYE OPPOSED. ALL
RIGHTY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
LINE TWO OH FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HELLO MY NAME IS METRO CORY
BURLINGAME CALIFORNIA. MY
RESPONSE AND I ALWAYS AB SEVENTY
FIFTY SEVEN THANK YOU. THAT'S A
LINE TO NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YEAH HELLO YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU-
HI I'M HERE OKAY OF ANY ERA TO
BE TYLER IN LA I AM THE BILL
THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE TO SIXTY
SEVEN LEGAL AT. MY NAME IS
MONICA OKAY AND I LIVE IN LA I
MEAN I HAVE DON'T THANK YOU. THE
LINE TO FORTY PLEASE DON'T. TO
FOUR YOU LINE IS UP. NEXT THEN
WE'LL GO TO LINE TWO SIXTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. EIGHTY SIX
THANKS YES GO AHEAD. HI I AM A
NEW YEAR'S EATING SMALL BUSINESS
OWNER IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA
AND I BOTH THE BILL THANK YOU.
NOT FOR THE LINE TO TWELVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO YES GO
AHEAD. HI MANY WITH YOU TODAY
I'LL COOPER AND WITH SMALL
BUSINESS OWNER- RESIDING IN SAN
FRANCISCO COUNTY AND I UPON
THANK YOU. NEXT TO THE TWO
THIRTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
MY NAME IS SHOULD. THE ANDY. AND
I CALLED THE L. THANK YOU. A
LINE TO FOR PLEASE GO AHEAD.
CHIU FORTY YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
THANK YOU ME YES WE CAN GO AHEAD
. HI MY NAME IS YOUR LAST
CHANCE- I RESIDE IN L. A. COUNTY
AND AYE OPPOSED ALL THANK YOU.
NATURAL LINES ONE NINETY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH HI MY NAME
IS RHONDA A YOU A COMPLEXITY-
AND I OPPOSE AB ONE SEVEN FIVE
SEVEN THANK YOU. NFL LINE TO
FIFTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS WRAPPING BROWN ELEVEN
NEW JERSEY I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU. NEXT TO THE LINE ONE
NINETY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO CARLOS. AMATIL COUNTY.
FOCH MAJORING IN ANIMAL BUSINESS
THANK YOU. MEXICO LINE NINETY
TWO PLEASE AHEAD. HI- HOW DO I
HE ON SANTA CLARA. AND I OPPOSE
IT THE SENATOR CHRISTIAN TWENTY
THANK YOU. A LINE TO TWENTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH HI MY NAME
IS THE YOU I AM FROM BEAUMONT
SITS AND THEREFORE THE BILL
THANK YOU. THAT CAROLINE NINETY
PLEASE GO. HI MY NAME SANDERS IN
LAW ANGELES I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU. NEXT TO THE LINE TO
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. BURGER NOW
THAT'S BECAUSE MANY- CAN'T BRING
VALLEY I OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU. AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE
THAT HAVE JUST QUEUED UP ON
MULTI LINE THEM GIVEN NEXT A
LINE TO TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. TWO
SEVENTY THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN
. NEXT TIME WE'LL GO TO LINE TWO
FIFTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS
IS DIRECTLY ADDRESSED THE
FOUNDER OF THE MAIN STREET
ALLIANCE A GROUP OF OVER FIVE
HUNDRED INTERNET RETAILERS MANY
IN CALIFORNIA AND WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU. AND THERE'S
CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE YOU AT
THIS TIME ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING
IT BACK COMMITTEE BUT BEFORE WE
TURN TO QUESTIONS LET ME ASK YOU
A QUESTION. SIMILAR MAIENSCHEIN
FIRST OFF THANK YOU FOR WORKING
WITH OUR COMMITTEE TO CRAFT IT-
LANGUAGE I THINK THAT MAKES IT
CLEAR THAT THE BILL IS NOT
INTENDED TO ESTABLISH LIABILITY
ON THE PART OF THE WEBSITE
DEVELOPER IF THE WEBSITE
PROVIDES EQUALLY EFFECTIVE
COMMUNICATION AND FACILITATES
FULL AND EQUAL ENJOYMENT OF THE
BUSINESSES GOODS AND SERVICES TO
ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
INCLUDING PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES. IN PLAIN LANGUAGE
LET ME JUST SEE IF YOU AGREE
WITH THIS IN PLAIN LANGUAGE IT'S
OKAY FOR A WEBSITE DEVELOPER TO
BUILD A WEBSITE THAT IS NOT
USING THE W. C. A. G. STANDARD.
SOLVES THE BILL THE WEBSITE IN A
WAY THAT ENSURES THE BUSINESS
BUSINESSES WEBSITE IS ACCESSIBLE
IS THAT. AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION
OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES AND
WHAT THE BILL I BELIEVE SO OKAY
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU LET'S TURN
MEMBERS NOW FOR QUESTIONS.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS IS THERE A
MOTION. CENTER STERN MOVES THE
BILL ALL RIGHT WHICH LIKE CLOSE
THANK YOU AYE AYE PERHAPS MOST
IMPORTANT THING THIS BILL DOES
IS SHOW IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE
CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIANS SEE JACK TO AGREE
ON A BILL SO. I'M PLEASED WITH
THAT AND WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN THE
SPIRIT OF BRINGING ALL FOLKS
TOGETHER LIKE WE DID IN YOUR
COMMITTEE TODAY- MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY EIGHT AB
SEVENTEEN FIFTY SEVEN THE MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS NUMBER. HI I'M
BURKE I WILK. ALAN ASHBY.
CABALLERO RUSSELL. RUSSELL I
LAYERED. LAYERED I AM IN. MEN I
NEED LOW. STERN STERN I'M WIENER
. FIVE TWO ZERO. FIVE ZERO WILL
PUT THAT ON CALL. ALL RIGHT NEXT
FILE NUMBER TWENTY FIVE. AB FIVE
NINE FOUR THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS AB FIVE NINETY FOUR WILL
EXPAND AND STRENGTHEN THE TOOLS
AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES TO PROTECT WORKERS FROM
LABOR LAW VIOLATIONS. AND
PROTECT RESPONSIBLE EMPLOYERS
FROM UNFAIR COMPETITION. DESPITE
THE BEST EFFORTS OF THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER LOCAL AGENCIES
ENFORCEMENT OF LABOR LAW
VIOLATIONS IS AN ADEQUATE TO
MEET THE NEEDS OF CALIFORNIANS
CEMENTS WORKFORCE. WAGE THEFT IS
WIDESPREAD IN CALIFORNIA AND
IT'S PARTICULARLY EGREGIOUS IN
LOW WAGE INDUSTRIES. IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE ALMOST NINETEEN
THOUSAND WORKERS FILE CLAIMS
WITH THE LABOR COMMISSIONER.
ADDING UP TO MORE THAN THREE
HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT MILLION
DOLLARS IN LOST WAGES. COMPANIES
CONTINUE TO DEVELOP MORE
SOPHISTICATED WAYS TO EVADE
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR LABOR LAW
VIOLATIONS THESE TECHNIQUES MAKE
THE ALREADY BACKLOGGED WAGE
CLAIM PROCESS EVEN MORE
COMPLICATED AND TIME INTENSIVE
IT'S ESSENTIAL WE MAXIMIZE THE
TOOLS AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO GIVE
WORKERS ACCESS TO JUSTICE. AND
HOLD COMPANIES THAT BREAK THE
LAW ACCOUNTABLE AB FIVE NINETY
FOUR EXPENSE PUBLIC ENFORCEMENT
IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS BROWN'S
YET THIRTY OF DISTRICT AND CITY
ATTORNEYS TO ENFORCE LABOR LAWS
AND SEEK INJUNCTIVE RELIEF TO
STOP VIOLATIONS. CLARIFIES THAT
PUBLIC ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE
NOT BOUND BY ARBITRATION
AGREEMENT SIGNED BY INDIVIDUAL
WORKERS. AND AUTHORIZES THE
LABOR COMMISSIONER TO ISSUE
PENALTIES FOR WILL FROM THIS
CLASSIFICATION. IN THE WAGE
CLAIM PROCESS. SHE THE
CONVERSATIONS THE OPPOSITION
WERE WORKING ON AMENDMENTS IN
RESPONSE TO THEIR CONCERNS
INCLUDING MAKING ATTORNEY FEES
DISCRETIONARY AND REQUIRE A
NOTICE TO THE LABOR COMMISSIONER
IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES I LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
OPPOSITION. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
MEASURE- TO PROTECT WORKERS AND
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE WITH ME TO TESTIFY. IN
SUPPORT AS CAITLIN VEGA WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION AND
REBEKAH CROWD WITH THE SAN
FRANCISCO CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
ARE YOU THINK VERY MUCH
CLOSURES. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
CAITLIN VEGA FOR THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION WE ARE HERE AS
SPONSORS OF AB FIVE NINE FOUR.
CALIFORNIA AS YOU ALL KNOW HOW
SOME OF THE NATION'S STRONGEST A
LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT LAWS THE
CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS HOW TO
ENFORCE THOSE LAWS. WE HAVE AN
ECONOMY THAT IS LARGELY. SERVICE
BASED AND ALSO HAS BECOME
INCREASINGLY DEPENDENT ON THE
USE OF LABOR CONTRACTORS AND
CONTRACTING OUT AND- TEMP
AGENCIES. IN WAYS THAT MAKE
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WAGE THEFT
MUCH MORE COMPLICATED WE ALSO
HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF
IMMIGRANT WORKERS WORKING IN
CALIFORNIA. AND IN MANY CASES
IMMIGRATION STATUS IS USED. AS A
DETERRENT AND AN OBSTACLE
PREVENTING WORKERS FROM BEING
ABLE TO SEEK ACCESS TO JUSTICE.
AS MENTIONED OUR STATE AGENCY IS
WOEFULLY UNDERFUNDED. AND
UNDERSTAFFED TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF OUR WORKFORCE AND WORKERS
HAVE INCREASINGLY FEWER- OF THAT
HAVE HAVE HAVE A LESSER ABILITY
TO AND ENGAGE IN PRIVATE
ENFORCEMENT. DUE TO THE
WIDESPREAD USE OF ARBITRATION
AGREEMENTS- IN THE NONUNION
SECTOR SO ALL OF THAT MEANS THAT
WE HAVE REALLY WIDESPREAD LABOR
LAW VIOLATIONS AND VERY FEW WAYS
FOR WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS THOSE VIOLATIONS. AND
GET JUSTICE I DO WANT TO
RECOGNIZE THE GREAT WORK OF OUR
BUDGET SUB COMMITTEE CHAIRED IN
TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE
CHALLENGES THAT THE STATE WHAT
WE TRY TO DO WITH THIS BILL IS
SAY. IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE
AGENCY HAVE ALL OF THOSE
RESPONSIBILITIES WE KNOW THAT WE
HAVE SOME GREAT CITY ATTORNEYS
AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OUT THERE
WHO ARE ALREADY DOING REALLY
IMPORTANT LABOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
ON THE LET'S BUILD ON THAT LET'S
MAKE SURE THAT THAT AT THE READY
IS STATE WIDE THAT THAT ALL
CITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO
ENGAGE IN LABOR LAW ENFORCEMENT-
GIVING WORKERS MORE OPTIONS.
MAKING IT CLEAR TO ALL THE
MAJORITY OF EMPLOYERS WHO ARE
FOLLOWING THE LAW THAT THESE
LAWS WILL BE ENFORCED AND THEY
DON'T HAVE TO COMPETE. AGAINST
LAWBREAKERS ON AND OF COURSE
PROTECTING THE STATE COFFERS
BECAUSE THE STATE SUFFERS. ON
THROUGH THE LOSS OF PAYROLL.
TAXES- DUE TO WAIT SEPTIMUS
BECAUSE- I'M SO WE REALLY A- ALL
OF AUTHORS EFFORTS. ARE TO
SUPPORT THE GOING ON AT THE LOOK
LEVEL AND WE ASK FOR YOUR I.
THANK YOU MUCH NEXT. HI GOOD
AFTERNOON REBEKAH CROWD HERE
REPRESENTING SAN FRANCISCO CITY
ATTORNEY DAVID CHIU. THE TWENTY
TWO HAS BEEN CONVENING CITY
ATTORNEYS AND COUNTY COUNCILS TO
TALK ABOUT THE ROLE WE PLAY IN
PROTECTING WORKERS RIGHT. RIGHT
NOW ONLY A HANDFUL OF THE BIG
CITIES HAVE STATEWIDE AT THE
READY TO ENFORCE LABOR LAWS.
UNDER THE UNFAIR COMPETITION LAW
. THIS BILL EXPANDS LABOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND INJUNCTIVE
RELIEF TO ALL CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS IMPORTANT TOOL THAT HAS
BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY IN THE
BIGGEST CITIES WILL NOW BE
AVAILABLE TO SMALLER CITIES ALSO
FACE SERIOUS LABOR LAW
VIOLATIONS. AND IN ADEQUATE
ENFORCEMENT. IT ALSO CLARIFIES
OUR RATE TO PRECEDED HOLDING
VIOLATORS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
BREAKING THE LAW. EVENT WHERE
WORKERS HAVE SIGNED AGREEMENTS
WAIVING THEIR RIGHT. WORKERS AND
OUR COMMUNITIES DESPERATELY NEED
ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND
RESPONSIBLE BUSINESSES TO FOLLOW
THE LAW DESERVE A LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD. WE THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
THIS IMPORTANT BILL THANK YOU
THEY WERE MUCH OF HIS SUPPORT.
PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION AND YOUR POSITION.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBER SHANE GUSMAN
ON BEHALF OF THE TEAMSTERS THE
AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION UNITE
HERE AT THE UTILITY WORKERS
UNION OF AMERICA. AND THE
INTERNATIONAL SCIENTISTS OF
CALIFORNIANS. THANK YOU. THE
CREWS ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MISSILE CHLOE'S IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. FAZAKERLEY OF C. W. ESTÁN
STATE COUNCIL IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THE MATH THE GARDEN TECH
EQUITY COLLABORATIVE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. VERY CLEAR SHE HARM
TO HAVE THE CALIFORNIANS LIMIT
LAWYERS ASSOCIATION THE
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WORKER
POWER AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
NAVNEET PURI ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THIRTEEN BIRD ASKING
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT IF YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT PLEASE BROOCH MICROPHONE
SAYING NO ONE ELSE PRO TO MY
PHONE LET'S NOW TURN TO
OPPOSITION OPPOSITION TO AB FIVE
NINE FOUR. WELCOME MR TURN
NUMBERS COURTNEY JENSEN ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION WE APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD
WITH THE AUTHOR AND THE AUTHOR
OFFICE REGARDING OUR CONCERNS
WITH THIS BILL AND HOPE TO
CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED.
ALTHOUGH IT IS TRUE THAT
CURRENTLY PUBLIC PROSECUTORS CAN
ENFORCE WAGE CLAIMS THAT ARE
OFTEN CUT AND DRY THIS BILL LIKE
SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDS PUBLIC
PROSECUTOR'S AUTHORITY TO
ENFORCE PARTS THE LABOR CODE
THAT ARE MUCH MORE OPEN TO
INTERPRETATION. THIS LEADS US TO
BE CONCERNED ABOUT INCONSISTENCY
OF ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE
STATE TO WHICH WE HAVE OFFERED
AN AMENDMENT TO ASK THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER PROVIDE- SOME SORT
OF STATEWIDE GUIDANCE
REGULATIONS. REGARDING THE
ENFORCEMENT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
THANK AB FIVE THE EMPLOYEE AYE
CLASSIFICATION EXEMPTIONS MANY
OF WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN
INTERPRETED IN DIFFERENT WAYS WE
BELIEVE. CURRENT GUIDANCE FROM
THE LABOR COMMISSIONER
PROTECTING FROM LUKE TO FLICK IT
OF INVESTIGATIONS AT STATE AND
LOCAL LEVELS AND PROVIDING FOR
COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER AND PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS IS GOOD FOR
EMPLOYERS. AND EMPLOYEES THANK
YOU THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
MISTER CHAIR CHRISTOPHER KELLY
ON BEHALF THE L. AREA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE. OR THE LAST ONE
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION ON THIS
ONE. AS THE AUTHOR IS A NOD WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON POTENTIAL
LANGUAGE WE HAVE REMAINING
CONCERNS AS WE DID- IN THE OTHER
HOUSE AND- IN THE LABOR
COMMITTEE IN THIS HOUSE LOOK.
FUNDAMENTALLY WAGE THEFT IS A
VERY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IN THE
STATE ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE CAN
AND SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
FACT. THE QUESTION IS THIS
ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY RATHER THAN
PROVIDING MORE RESOURCES AS
WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST NOT ONLY
FINANCIAL BUT MORE TOOLS SUCH AS
LENA FORTY. A TO THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER I EITHER DLS SEE IT
WOULD BE OUR PREFERRED ROUTE- TO
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE
IN ADDITION TO THOSE SPECIFIED
BY MISTER JENSEN. ONE IS IN
SECTION PROPOSED SECTION ONE
EIGHTY ONE A SUBDIVISION A IT
SAYS THAT THE PUBLIC PROSECUTOR
CAN WORK QUOTE WITHOUT SPECIFIC
DIRECTION OF THE DLS THE- WE
WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST SEE SOME
SORT OF COORDINATION BETWEEN THE
LOCAL PROSECUTORS GOING TO
UNDERTAKE. A LABOR CODE
ENFORCEMENT MATTER- EVEN IF IT'S
NOT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE L.
S. C. AT LEAST THEY ARE
COORDINATING IN THAT REGARD. AND
THE SECOND PIECES WE HAVE A
FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN AND WOULD
LIKE TO SEE A LIMITATION ON THE
ABILITY FOR A LOCAL PUBLIC
PROSECUTOR TO CONTRACT OUT FOR.
ANY OF THESE TYPES OF
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. IN SOME
INSTANCES OF COURSE SUCH AS
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IT WOULD
BE APPROPRIATE BUT OUR CONCERN
IS THAT WE MIGHT END UP WITH
SOME SORT OF BOUNTY HUNTER TYPE
ACTIVITY. FOR THOSE WITH REASONS
WE RESPECTFULLY. OPPOSE THE
MEASURE THANK YOU. THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US THAT
YOU DO OCCASIONALLY SUPPORT
ITSELF ALL RIGHT. OTHERS WERE IN
OPPOSITION PLEASE GIVE US YOUR
NAME YOUR FILIATION AND YOUR
POSITION. MORE SKATING WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURING
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
KATIE DAVIS THE CALIFORNIA
RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION AND
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
SEE NOEL'S POACHING MICHAELIS
TURN THE PHONE LINES MODERATOR
PLEASE Q. OF THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION AB
FIVE NINE FOUR. OF COURSE PLAYED
IN JANET WE SHOULD MAKE A COMMON
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WE'LL BE GOING TO LINE TO
FIFTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GROCERY CARE NAY STATE BUILDING
TRADES IN SUPPORT. NATURAL LINE
TO NINETY TWO. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THEY LOOK AT THEIR MODES OF SELF
CONFUSED SO WILL BE GOING TO
JUNE EIGHTY EIGHT PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THE FOURTEENTH ON BEHALF
OF THE FAMILY BUSINESSES
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED FOR THE
REASONS OUTLINED BY MISS JOHNSON
THANK YOU. AND THERE'S CURRENTLY
NO NOTHING LIKE YOU AT THIS TIME
AS FAR LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS OF. THE SENATOR ALSO
YEAH THANK YOU I WANNA THANK THE
AUTHOR- WE WOULD NEVER HAVE
ENOUGH MONEY. THIS BUDGET OR
DEVOTING OF MONEY IN THIS BUDGET
TO DO ALL OF THE WORK THAT NEEDS
TO BE DONE- TO GO AFTER THOSE
THAT. ENGAGE IN- WAGE THEFT AND
IT'S SHAMEFUL IT'S SHAMEFUL THAT
PEOPLE WHO FOR THE MOST PART OUR
LOW WAGES. PAID NOWHERE NEAR
WHAT THEY NEED OR DESERVE AND
YET WERE HAVING TO DEAL WITH
WAGE THEFT IS JUST ASTONISHING
TO ME SO- I JUST WANNA THANK
YOU. FOR THIS BILL THANK YOU.
ARI THANK YOU- SIGNAL FOR THE
QUESTIONS ARE COMMON SENATOR
ALSO MOVES THE BILL. JUST ONE OF
ACTUALLY TWO COMMENTS OF. OUR
STAFF SITTING GAUGE AND I
ENGAGED IN A COUPLE ISSUES THAT
WERE OF CONCERN I THINK THEY'VE
BEEN RESOLVED BUT IS ONE OF
VERIFIED THEY'VE BEEN RESOLVED-
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING- AND-
AWARENESS. THAT ALL PUBLIC
PROSECUTOR'S MAY NOT HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO
EFFECTIVELY ENFORCE LABOR LAW WE
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT
THOSE. TO THE EXTENT THAT ARE
CONTRACTED OUT THAT THOSE WHO
ARE ENGAGED THAT THEY HAVE
EXPERTISE IN LABOR LAW AND THAT
IT NOT BE A SITUATION WHERE IT'S
A PAY TO PLAY SITUATION AND I
THINK YOU AGREE THAT WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE
ENGAGED ARE THOSE WHO ARE
COMPETENT HAVE EXPERTISE AND
EXPERIENCE IN LABOR LAW. CORRECT
AND THE SECOND ISSUE- AND I
THINK HAS BEEN RESOLVED BY THE
LEVINE ACT BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME SHEET OF
MUSIC IS THAT- AS AMENDED LEVINE
AT GMAIL PLIES TO COUNTY COUNCIL
CITY ATTORNEYS AND- D. A.'S
ABOVE OTHER PUBLIC PROSECUTORS.
THAT IN TERMS OF CONTRACTING
WITH ENTITIES AND INDIVIDUALS
LEVINE ACT APPLIES IN TERMS OF
THE- RESTRICTION ON CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTIONS IN CONNECTION WITH
AND TEMPORAL PROXIMITY TO THE
CONTRACTING. OF SERVICES IS THAT
YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IS ALSO
MY UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND SOME
OF THIS IS PROBABLY IN THE
PROCESS OF BEING LITIGATED.
HAVING SAID THAT THAT IS THAT IS
I SHARE YOUR UNDERSTANDING ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL
RIGHT- WOULD LIKE CLOSE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- AND WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. MA'AM SECTOR IF
YOU CALL THE ROLL THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY FIVE EIGHTY
FIVE NINE FOR THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
BURKE. HI BURKE AYE WILK NO.
LOOK NO ALAN. ASHBY CABALLERO.
RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED-
LAYERED I AM IN. MAN I KNEW LOW
. STERN STERN I. FIVE TO ONE. I
WANNA PUT THAT ON CALL. THANK
YOU- GIVE ONE MORE WHAT IS THAT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN I
THINK I HAVE TO MORE HATE TO
TELL YOU ABOUT NO I'M SORRY WILL
YOU. ONE MORE. SO YOU CHOOSE TO
CHOOSE WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO DO
WHICH ONE'S MY FAVORITE WRITER
AS EXACT HEIGHT YEAH I'M SORRY.
TO MORE ALL RIGHT PHONE NUMBER
TWENTY SIX OKAY. WITH THAT
THAT'S A BE A FIFTY THREE. YES
OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WANT
TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENT PROVIDING ANALYSIS. IN
OCTOBER TWENTY TWENTY TWO KROGER
AND ALBERTSONS THE FIRST AND
SECOND LARGEST GROCERY CHAINS IN
THE NATION. ANNOUNCED AN
UNPRECEDENTED TWENTY FIVE
BILLION DOLLAR MERGER FOR WOULD
BE THE LARGEST GROCERY STORE
MERGER. IN AMERICAN HISTORY THE
COMBINATION OF THESE TWO CHAINS
WILL CREATE A COMBINED MARKET
SHARE AND CONTROL OF 36% OF THE
US GROCERY. SUPERMARKET
OPERATIONS WHEN MERGERS LIKE
THIS TAKE PLACE IT'S COMMON TO
SEE STAFFING DECLINE IN PRICES
INCREASE RESULTING IN A DIRECT
IMPACT TO THE QUANTITY QUALITY
AND COST OF GOODS AVAILABLE TO
THE PUBLIC. LAST YEAR
CALIFORNIANS SAW RECORD
INFLATION IN THE GROCERY
INDUSTRY HITTING LOW INCOME
FAMILIES THE HARDEST AND PUSHING
THEM TOWARDS FOOD AND SECURITY
AB FIFTY THREE SIX TO ENSURE
NECESSARY INFORMATION IS
PROVIDED FOR FUTURE MERGERS.
THAT CAN HELP OF VALUE WAIT THE
PROPOSED TRANSACTION AND
ELIMINATE ANY POTENTIAL
CONSEQUENCES OF CONSOLIDATION
THE BILL WOULD REQUIRE GROCERY
OR DRUG RETAIL COMPANIES TO FILE
A NOTICE. TO THE AG A HUNDRED
AND EIGHTY DAYS IN ADVANCE OF
FINALIZING A PROPOSED MERGER OR
ACQUISITION IN THE GROCERY OR
DRUG RETAIL INDUSTRIES. THE
NOTICE FOR PRIVATE PER PROVIDE
INFORMATION ON THE IMPACT OF THE
MERGER ON COMMUNITIES AND
WORKERS INCLUDING INFORMATION ON
THE FINANCES. OF THE COMPANIES
IN ANY PLANS TO SELL MERGER
CONSOLIDATE ASSETS THE
COMPETITIVE OF FACTS IN THE
MERGER ON PRICING SUPPLY AND
ACCESS TO FOOD OR MEDICINE. AND
IMPACTS TO WORKERS SUCH AS WAGES
BENEFITS AND UNEMPLOYMENT.
CALIFORNIANS DESERVE
TRANSPARENCY AND MUST HAVE THE
RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT PROPOSED
MERGERS THAT AFFECT THE SUPPLY
AND AFFORDABILITY. OF FOOD AND
MEDICINE I AM PLEASED THAT THE
AMENDMENTS TAKEN LAST WEEK HAVE
REMOVED ALL OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. AND I WANT TO THANK THE
OPPOSITE OPPOSITION FOR WORKING
WITH US. AB EIGHT FIFTY THREE
PROVIDES AN INFORMED A FOR THE
BUDGET. PER AND- FOR SERVICE
GINGERY. CONVENE AND SAFE ACCESS
. TO THESE. ESSENTIAL GOODS WITH
ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT AS
KAREN BASS HAMILTON WITH.
ECONOMIC SECURITY PROJECT AND AT
HOWARD WITH UFCW TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. ALREADY THANK YOU
PLEASE APPROACH MICROPHONE-
THANK YOU CHAIR- BURKE AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND MY
NAME IS CHRISTINA BOSS HAMILTON
REPRESENTING THE ECONOMIC
SECURITY PROJECT ACTION THANK
YOU SOMEONE MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN
FOR TAKING ON THIS VERY
IMPORTANT BILL. THE ECONOMIC
SECURITY PROJECT ACTION WORKS
ON- COOK ON COMBATING CORPORATE
CONCENTRATION BECAUSE OF THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT IT HAS A
WORKERS IN ON FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE
HEADLINES AROUND ABOUT INFLATION
AND SUPPLY CHAIN SHOCKS CAUSED
BY COBIT. AND WILD COVERT
CERTAINLY PLAYED A ROLE IN
SKYROCKETING PRICES WE CAN NO
LONGER OVERLOOK. PRICE GOUGING
BY PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS FROM
THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY WHICH
WE DEBATED ON A COUPLE MONTHS
AGO TO. GROCERIES AND MEDICINE.
WELL GROCERY MEGA STORES LIKE
KROGER HAVE BEEN EARNING RECORD
PROFITS. FAMILIES IN CALIFORNIA
ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY AN AVERAGE
GROCERY BILL OF FOUR HUNDRED
THIRTY DOLLARS A MONTH. AND EVEN
THOUGH CALIFORNIA IS THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT PRODUCER OF BASIC
GROCERY GROCERY ITEMS LIKE GREEN
VEGETABLES AND MILK. WE SOMEHOW
PAY HIGHER PRICES FOR THOSE
ITEMS THEY AND OTHER PEOPLE IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. FOR
THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS GIANT
GROCERIES. STORE CHAINS HAVE
BEEN QUIETLY CONSOLIDATING POWER
AND PRICING OUT MOM AND POP
GROCERY STORES. THIS TREND IS
NOT LIMITED TO THE THIS
PARTICULAR INDUSTRY BUT THE
IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY IS PERHAPS MOST STARK.
THE NUMBER OF GROCERY STORES IN
THE UNITED STATES DECLINED BY
30% FROM 1-993-220-0019 AND IN
TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN ALONE
THERE WERE MORE THAN THREE
HUNDRED. FOOD INDUSTRY MERGERS
AND ACQUISITIONS. NOW WE'RE
FACING ONE OF THE LARGEST
GROCERY STORE MERGERS IN OUR-
COUNTRY'S HISTORY WITH THE
KROGER'S PLAN TO ACQUIRE
ALBERTSONS WHICH THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LAID OUT. WE KNOW BASED
ON EVIDENCE FROM THE PAST THIS
WILL ONLY HARM CALIFORNIA'S
FAMILIES AND WORKERS. IT WILL
LEAD TO MASSIVE JOB LOSSES SITE
SKYROCKETING FOOD COSTS
ELIMINATES CONSUMER CARRIES
THANK YOU IF YOU COULD READ IT
WILL EXACERBATE THE NUMBER OF
FOOD DESERT IN OUR STATE. FOR
THESE REASONS WE ARE PROUD TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL AND URGE AND
VOTE THANK YOU. MISTER OUR- THE
GERMAN MEMBERS AT HOWARD ON
BEHALF THE UNITED FOOD AND
COMMERCIAL WORKERS QUESTIONS
STATE COUNCIL PLEASED TO SPONSOR
THIS BILL IN PLACE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ALREADY OTHERS IN
SUPPORT PLEASE APPROACH MICRO A.
B. EIGHT FIVE THREE. MISTER
CHAIRMAN MEMBERSHIP GUSMAN ON
BEHALF OF THE TEAMSTERS AND
SPORT. THANK YOU. THE CRUISE OF
THE CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. AT THE
CORDOVA TECH EQUITY
COLLABORATIVE IN SUPPORT. WITH
FOR US CAN WE HAVE THE WESTERN
CENTER AMONG POVERTY IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU. FILTHIEST
ALICIA ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ALL RIGHT. NEXT OPPOSITION TO AB
EIGHT FIVE THREE PLEASE BRUSH MY
PHONE. MISTER CHAIRMAN FOR THE
COMMITTEE LOUIS BROWN HERE TODAY
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA GROCERS
ASSOCIATION WITH THE AMENDMENTS
TO BE TAKEN- BY THE AUTHOR WE
ARE REMOVING OUR OPPOSITION AND
WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR
APPRECIATION TO THE AUTHOR. AND
HIS STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US TO
GET THE US TO THIS POINT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL
RIGHT ANYONE ELSE OPPOSITION
THING KNOWN APPROACH MICHAEL
LISTER THE FOLLOWING MODERATE
PLEASE KILL THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AB EIGHT
FIVE THREE. I THANK THE CHAIR
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THE
STEALTH PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. PRESS ONE AND
ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LINE
TWO EIGHTY THREE YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. I CAN REMEMBER BACK
BROKE. A MOTOR WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS THE NETWORK
AND THE POOR THANK YOU THANK YOU
. NOW GO TO LINE TWO NINETY.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. ONE TO NINETY
EIGHT YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON THE LINE
THREE OH THREE YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. MONTESA DONE ON BEHALF OF
THE PESTICIDE ACTION NETWORK IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE ONE MORE
PERSON WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK JUST A MOMENT
WHILE WE PROCESS THE MEN. BUT
BUT. WELL NOW GO TO LINE TWO
TWENTY SIX YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN
. I BELIEVE THE JURY. ON GUARD I
SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU.
MISTER CARE THERE IS NO ONE
ELSE. ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS COMMENTS IS THERE
MOTIONS- SO THERE ARE SOME OF
THE BILL OH I'M SORRY CENTER
WILL. GUIDE CENTER. IT THANK YOU
ALL RIGHT US DRAWS A WITHDRAWS
OR MOTION AND WILL. CENTER WILL
LOSE THE BILL SELF CENTER
ARCHULETA COULD LEARN FROM THAT.
ALL RIGHT- THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WOULD YOU LIKE CLOSE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH I MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AND I ABOUT ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU MA'AM SIX IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY SIX AB EIGHT FIVE
THREE THE MOTIONS TO PASS AS
AMENDED THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS UMBERG HI. BURKE
I WILL CRY WILK HI ALAN ASHBY
CABALLERO TO RUSSELL. RUSSELL I
LAYERED LAYERED I'M IN.
MAIENSCHEIN MEELO STERN. STERN
AYE WIENER. SIX ZERO SIX ZERO
PUT THAT ON CALL AND THEN LAST
OF THE FOUR BILLS WE WILL END-
MAIENSCHEIN COLUSA WITH AB
SIXTEEN EIGHTY FOUR FILE NUMBER
TWENTY SEVEN BY LIKE THE TITLE I
APPRECIATE THAT MUCH CHERRY B.
SIXTY FOUR SIX TO GIVE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS MORE TOOLS TO COMBAT
ILLICIT CANNABIS MARKET. DESPITE
THE LEGALIZATION OF CANNABIS IN
TWENTY SIXTEEN WE'VE NOT SEEN
REDUCTION IN ILLEGAL AND
UNLICENSED. COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY
IN FACT THE ILLEGAL MARKET STILL
MAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 7280% OF
THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY IN
CALIFORNIA. UNLICENSED ACTIVITY
POSE A SIGNIFICANT DANGER TO THE
PUBLIC TO THE ENVIRONMENT INTO
THE VIABILITY OF THE LEGAL
MARKET PLACE A. B. SIXTEEN
EIGHTY FOUR ALLOWS FOR
INCREASED. ADMINISTRATIVE
ENFORCEMENT AGAINST UNLICENSED
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND CREATES
OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREATER
COOPERATION BETWEEN LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS AND THE OFFICE THE
AG. CURRENT LAW ALLOWS LOCAL
AGENCIES TO IMMEDIATELY IMPOSE
ADMINISTRATIVE FINES OR
PENALTIES FOR ILLICIT- CANNABIS
CULTIVATION THIS BILL EXPANDS AT
THE READY TO VIOLATIONS THAT
EXIST AS A RESULT ANY TYPE OF
ILLEGAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES.
SUCH AS MANUFACTURING
DISTRIBUTION AND RETAIL SALE
WITH ME TO TESTIFIED SUPPORT AS
DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL EVEN
TURNER. AND WITHOUT A RESPECTIVE
QUESTION ABOUT ARE ANYTHING JUST
BE SURE YOU'VE ACCEPTED THE
COMMITTEES I HAVE MOMENTS ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU. CLOSURES THANK
YOU- ETHAN TURNER DEPUTY GENERAL
I WORK IN THE CANNABIS CONTROL
SECTION ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE. THE TURN ATTORNEY
GENERAL BONDI'S PLEASE SUPPORT
THIS BILL AND WE THANK ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN FOR
SUPPORTING THIS IMPORTANT
MEASURE. INTERNET GENERAL'S LONG
SUPPORTED A WELL REGULATED LEGAL
CANNABIS INDUSTRY TO ENSURE THE
CANNABIS AND CANNABIS PRODUCTS
CONSUMED BY CALIFORNIANS. ARE
SAFE AND ALSO TO REMEDY SOME OF
THE HISTORIC WRONGS. OR
INEQUITIES CAUSED BY THE WAR ON
DRUGS. I HAVE REFORM CITY TO A
FORMER DEPUTY COUNTY COUNSEL I
USED TO RUN A LOCAL COMMERCIAL
CANNABIS- PROGRAM. AND IN MY
EXPERIENCE TELLS ME THIS BILL
WILL SIGNIFICANTLY HELP LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS AND JOIN IN THE
FIGHT AGAINST. ILLEGAL CANNABIS
CULTIVATION. AND IN RETAIL
MANUFACTURING. CURRENTLY MOST.
JURISDICTIONS RELY PRINCIPALLY
ON TRADITIONAL CRIMINAL
ENFORCEMENT AND CIVIL
ENFORCEMENT IN ADDRESSING THE
LEGAL MARKET. ADMINISTRATIVE
ENFORCEMENT IS MORE COST
EFFECTIVE IT CAN BE UNDERTAKEN
MUCH LARGER SCALE. WITHOUT MANY
OF THE RISKS INHERENT HARMS THE
COLLATERAL IMPACTS THAT
ACCOMPANY TRADITIONAL CRIMINAL
ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. SIXTEEN
EIGHTY SB SIX EIGHTY FOUR WILL
ENCOURAGE THE ADOPTION OF
ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT
TACTICS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND
CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREATER
COOPERATION WITH THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE. IF MORE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS ADOPT
ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT A
NUISANCE ABATEMENT APPROACHES
WILL LEAD TO GREATER LEVEL FOR
OF LEVELS ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE
STATE. AND WILL MAKE LEGAL
CANNABIS ACTIVITIES MORE
COMPETITIVE AND MAKE ILLEGAL
ACTIVITIES LESS PROFITABLE. AND
MORE DIFFICULT. FINALLY A. SIX
IN EIGHTY FOUR WILL HELP LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS THEY DO NOT HAVE-
ACCESS OR THE AVAILABILITY OF-
CIVIL ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS UNDER
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS CODE TWO
SIX ZERO THREE EIGHT. CURRENTLY
ONLY- ELEVEN OF CALIFORNIA'S
FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES AND A
HANDFUL OF CITIES UNDERTAKE
ACTIONS UNDER THAT CODE SECTION
SO THIS BILL WOULD GIVE THEM-
ADDITIONAL TOOL TO BUILD
UNDERTAKEN FOR SPENT. ON THEIR
OWN BEHALF. AND I CAN HANG
AROUND FOR ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS THAT THE- COMMITTEE
MAY HAVE THANK YOU AND WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST RIVALS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT IN
SUPPORT. AB SIXTEEN EIGHTY
FORCING KNOWN APPROACH TO MY
FULLEST NOW TURN TO OPPOSITION
THOSE WERE IN OPPOSITION AB
SIXTEEN EIGHTY FOUR PLEASE PRESS
MIKE FOR. TELL YOU TOMORROW ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA NORMAL WE
GREATLY APPRECIATE COMMITTEE FOR
WORKING WITH US THANK YOU TO
STAFF NAY OFF THE AUTHORED FOR
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS WE ARE
NOT NEUTRAL ON THE BILL. OTHERS
SUPPORT NEUTRAL OR OPPOSITION
SEEING NO ONE APPROACH MIKE FROM
LISTER THE PHONE LINES MODERATE
PLEASE Q. OF THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT OPPOSITION IN NEUTRAL IN
AB SIXTEEN EIGHTY FOUR. OF
COURSE LEGITIMATE VICIOUS
BECAUSE BOARD OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAT THEIR- AT
THIS TIME. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO
ONE SHOWING UP THIS TIME. LET'S
FREE BACK QUESTIONS. SAYING NONE
OF CENTER MEMOS THE BILL.
CENTERMAN WAS THE BILL ARTS
CENTER BUILT MIMOSA BILL WHICH
CARE CLOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH I
APPRECIATE IT'S BEEN ENJOYABLE
TO SPEND THE AFTERNOON WITH YOU
AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST RIGHT
ABOUT THIS. BE YOU'RE QUITE
WELCOME- ALL RIGHT THE ON. YEAH
. MATT MATT SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN ABC EIGHTY FOR THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED-
UMBERG BY A BURGER I WILL CRY
WILK AYE ALAN. ASHBY CABALLERO
RUSSELL. RUSSELL I LAYERED.
LAYERED I AM IN MEN I ANY LOW.
STERN STERN AYE WIENER. SIX ZERO
SIX ZERO- I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME
MEMBERS OF BURMA'S SO YOU INTEND
WITH HIM TONIGHT TO CO PRESENT
HIS BILL JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
SO ALL RIGHT OKAY- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FRIEDMAN IS SIMILAR
FRIEDMAN HERE- IS THERE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER PRESENT. GOING ONCE.
GOING TWICE LOOKING FOR AUTHORS
AS MATTER OF FACT. YEAH ONE OF
THE W'S COULD OF RIGHT JUST
GLIDED RIGHT IN. WELL ONCE OUT
HERE THIS MORNING FOR ABOUT A
HALF AN HOUR. SOMEBODY JUST
SLIGHTLY.
ALL RIGHT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GIPSON- LET ME SEE WHERE WE ARE
. ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN IS
RIGHT YOU'LL BE NEXT OKAY THE-
SEVENTEEN FILE IN SEVENTEEN
SEVEN GIPSON OF FLOOR IS YEARS
AND THAT IS- A. B. THERE YOU CAN
REFRESH YOUR MEMORY EIGHTY NINE
TEN EIGHTY NINE FILE NUMBER
SEVENTEEN AB TEN EIGHTY NINE. GO
AHEAD THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
SENATOR- CHAIRMAN- AND MEMBERS
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL TEN EIGHTY
NINE WHICH SEEKS TO BAN THE SALE
OF THE PURCHASE THE POSSESSION
AND RECEIVING OF GHOST GUN
TECHNOLOGY BY LIMITING THE USE
OF THREE D. PRINTERS AND
COMPUTERIZED NUMERIC CONTROL THE
C. IN C. MILLING MACHINES TO OF
STATE LICENSE- GUN MANUFACTURERS
ONLY AT THE SEALY BILL TEN
EIGHTY NINE STRENGTHENS THE
LEGACY. OF PREVIOUSLY OF THE
BILLS THAT I'VE I'VE DONE
ASSEMBLY BILL SIXTEEN TWENTY ONE
IN TWO THOUSAND- IN TWENTY TWO
WHICH BAND GHOST GUNS AND GHOST
GUNS KIDS. AND ASSEMBLY BILL
EIGHT SEVENTY NINE AND TWO
THOUSAND NINETEEN WHICH REQUIRED
THE SALE OF OUR ARMED PRECURSOR
PARTS TO BE THE UP TO BE
POSSESSED- ONLY BY AT LICENSE
VENDORS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA CALIFORNIA IS IN THE
LEAD WHEN IT COMES TO PREVENTING
GUN VIOLENCE ARE YET PEOPLE ARE
STILL FINDING. LOOPHOLES THAT-
THAT GIVE GO AROUND THE LAWS
THAT WE PASS AND THE
REGULATIONS- THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE GAINING ACCESS TO HOME
MADE AN UNDETECTABLE GUNS BY
USING THREE D. PRINTERS OR THE
CNC MILLING MACHINES. THIS
TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS- SOMEONE TO
CREATE A SEMI. AUTOMATIC WEAPON-
WHICH HAS NO SERIAL NUMBER NO
BACKGROUND CHECKS AND NO WAITING
PERIODS. OR OTHER REGULATIONS
THAT GOES AROUND ARE ARE LAWS
THAT WE'VE CREATED HERE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. IT IS
ESSENTIAL THAT WE CONTINUE TO
WORK TO CLOSE EVERY LOOPHOLE
THAT EXISTS- INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE
ACCESSING- UNTRACEABLE ON
SERIALIZE GUNS OR GUN PARTS. LET
ME BE CLEAR THIS BILL DOES NOT
SEEK TO BAN A THREE D. PRINTER-
AS A AS A AS A WHOLE- THIS BILL
TARGETS THREE D. PRINTER AND
PRINTERS- OF GUNS BY THOSE WHO
ARE UNLICENSED TO DO SO THE
WE'RE TARGETING THROUGH THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION- AND WE'RE
LIMITING TO THOSE WHO ARE
LICENSED IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. TO PRODUCE BUT NOT
THE ON THROUGH ALLIES PARTS THAT
WE SEE CREEPING IN OUR COMMUNITY
AND AS A STORY- A MR MORA- IN A
FEW YEARS AGO- HIS HIS CUSTODY
WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM- THROUGH A
DIVORCE- AND HE WAS A PROHIBITED
PERSON FROM HAVING- SUCH.
WEAPONS HE MAY A R. FIFTH NGUYEN
TORTURE TURNS. WHERE'S THREE
DAUGHTERS WAITING TO BE SEEN TO
SEE HIM HE KILLED HIS THREE
DAUGHTERS. KILLED THE SOCIAL
WORKER AND THEN HE KILLED
HIMSELF AND HE DID THAT USING A
GHOST GUN UNSER ALLIES AND HE
WAS A PROHIBITED PERSON AND SO
THIS BILL SEEKS TO CLOSE ANY
KIND OF LOOPHOLES FROM THIS EVER
HAPPEN AGAIN IS THAT IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. HERE WITH
ME TO PROVIDE- SUPPORTING
TESTIMONY ON ON THE ON MY BILL
IT'S- OF REPRESENTATIVE FROM
GIFFORDS AND ALSO FROM BRADY'S
WHO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS AS WELL ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU TWO MINUTES EACH GO
AHEAD HI GOOD AFTERNOON JAMIE
MINOR ON BEHALF OF THE GIFFORDS
LAW CENTER TO PREVENT GUN
VIOLENCE. OTHER PROBLEMS
SPONSORED AB TEN EIGHTY NINE WE
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS- IN IN
RECENT YEARS THOUGH AND
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE START OF
THE PANDEMIC. CALIFORNIA HAS
SUFFERED AN EXPLOSION IN THE
MARKET FOR THESE D. I. Y. GOES
GO AND BUILD KITS THAT ALLOW
PEOPLE TO EASILY ASSEMBLE THEIR
OWN OF FIREARMS WITHOUT ANY
BACKGROUND OR OTHER PROTECTIONS.
THE GHOST GUN INDUSTRY SOLD ITS
GONE KIDS PRODUCTS DIRECTLY
IMMEDIATELY AND OFTEN
ANONYMOUSLY OVER THE INTERNET TO
BUYERS INCLUDING TWO CHILDREN
AND TEENS WHO NEVER PASS A
BACKGROUND CHECK OR GUN SAFETY
TESTS AND NEVER SHOWED ID
VERIFIED THEIR AGE OR IDENTITY.
OUR ORGANIZATION IS PROUD TO
HAVE PARTNERED WITH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GIPSON AND THIS COMMITTEE
IN THE LEGISLATURE TO INTRODUCE
THE NATION'S FIRST COMPREHENSIVE
GHOST GUN REFORM BILL BACK IN
TWENTY SIXTEEN. AND ADDS THE
NATION'S STRONGEST GHOST GUN
REFORM LEGISLATION AS WELL AS
THE STRONGEST- REFORM THAT WE'VE
SEEN. IN THE NATION LAST YEAR.
THE EARLY INDICATIONS SUGGEST
THAT NEW REFORMS HAVE HAD
ENORMOUS SUCCESS IN DRIVING
LEADING GO SCAN SELLERS AND
MANUFACTURERS TO CHANGE THEIR
BUSINESS PRACTICES. OR STOP
SELLING GO SCAN PRODUCTS IN
CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER WE HAVE ALSO
SEEN SOME COMPANIES SEEK TO
CIRCUMVENT THESE NEW REFORMS BY
OPENLY SELLING AND MARKETING
DIGITALLY PROGRAMMABLE MACHINES.
INCLUDING GHOST GUNS AND
PRINTING THREE D. AND THREE PER.
THAT ENCOURAGE AND- MANY. TO
PRODUCE KEY FIREARM PARTS WITH
THE PRESS OF A BUTTON. THIS
LEGISLATION WOULD BUILD ON
CALIFORNIA'S RECENT GHOST GUN
REFORMS AND STRENGTHEN OUR LAWS
TO PROACTIVELY STOP THESE
ABUSIVE AND DANGEROUS PRACTICES.
AND STOP THE SALE OF GHOST GUN
MANUFACTURING MACHINES
SPECIFICALLY THIS BILL WOULD
CLARIFY IN STRENGTHENED
CALIFORNIA'S LIMITATIONS ON THE
SALE OF GHOST GUN MANUFACTURING
MACHINES AND HOLD INDIVIDUALS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR HARMS CAUSED BY
THE DISTRIBUTION. OF DIGITAL
BLUEPRINTS FOR PRINTING AND
MANUFACTURING GUNS AND HE
FIREARM COMPONENTS. THESE
EFFORTS WILL HELP URGENTLY
ADDRESS DANGEROUS ATTEMPTS TO
UNDERMINE CALIFORNIA'S
LIFESAVING GOES GOOD REFORMS
BEFORE THEY CAN TAKE ROOT ALL
RIGHT WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOOD WRAP IT UP. AND SO WE
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL
RIGHT OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF AB
TEN EIGHTY NINE. PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE SEEING. SOME
FOLKS APPROACHING. MARY LOU
ROSATO VOLUNTEER MOMS DEMAND
ACTION FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT
THANK YOU. GELATIN I RECEIVE ALL
OF YOUR FOR MOMS DEMAND ACTION
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
RAN A MOMS DEMAND ACTION
VOLUNTEER IN SPORT THANK YOU.
SUSAN BURNS MONSTER MAN ACTION
MOMENT HERE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. KRISTIN BROWN CFT DEAN OF
EDUCATORS AND CLASSIFIED
PROFESSIONALS HERE IN SUPPORT
ARE YOU THANK YOU. SEE I
COLLEAGUES WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
HERE FROM BRADY ALSO PASSING ON
HER SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ALL RIGHT WELL LET'S NOW TURN TO
OPPOSITION THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED
TO AB TEN EIGHTY NINE PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. GOING
ONCE GOING TWICE ALL RIGHT
SEEING KNOWN APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE IN OPPOSITION AB TEN
EIGHTY NINE LET'S TURN TO THE
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WHO IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AB TEN
EIGHTY NINE. OF COURSE PLAYED IN
GERMANY YOU WISH TO SPEAK AND OR
PLEASE PRESSED. THEN ZERO. WILL
BE GOING TO LINE THE THREE TEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ANY OFFER WITH
EVERY TIME FOR SAFE AND STRONG
OF THE BILL THANK. NEXT WE'LL GO
TO LINE THREE HUNDRED PLEASE GO
AHEAD. TIM SMITH HELLO MY COUNTY
BRADY UNITED BOARD MEMBER AND
TREASURER IN SUPPORT OF AB. ONE
ZERO EIGHT NINE. NATURAL LINE
THREE FOURTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
WE'RE TRAVIS LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE PISTOL SENSATION SPEAKING
ON BEHALF OF NATIONAL SHOOTING
SPORTS FOUNDATION. THE NATIONAL
RIFLE ASSOCIATION GUN I WAS THE
CALIFORNIANS STRONG OPPOSITION.
NEXT TO THE LINE THREE FIFTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOUR SPINE FROM
WOMEN FOR AMERICA WOMEN
PRIMERICA VALUES AND ETHICS IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK. THANK YOU
. MEXICO THREE ELEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS JULIE EVAN
LOW REPRESENTING OVER TWO
THOUSAND NUMBERS OF WOMEN FOR
AMERICAN VALUES AND ETHICS.
STRONG SUPPORT AB AND EIGHTY
NINE THANK YOU THANK YOU. NEXT
TO THE LINE THREE OH NINE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. EHRENFELD STEVEN
SYMBOLIC HERE WHICH BRADY
GREATER FRESNO. WHICH STRONGLY
SUPPORT A. B. TEN EIGHTY NINE.
THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE LINE TO
NINETY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD.
REPORT CONTAINS A VOLUNTEER WITH
BRADY IN SAN FRANCISCO STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ACTUAL LINE THREE THIRTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I AM PROFICIENT
WITH M. CALIFORNIA FORTY FIVE. I
REPRESENT INDIVIDUAL STATE
STRONG WHICH INCLUDES EIGHTY
CALIFORNIA GROUP THANK YOU THANK
YOU RIGHT. THE LINE THREE SIX.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. RESTRICTED
SENATORS THIS IS A LITTLE
CHARLIE BROWN BOARD- MY- X.
FAMILY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THIS
BILL THANK YOU. MEXICO LINE THEY
JUST THE- SO THERE'S NO ONE ELSE
IN YOU AT THIS TIME OUR LET'S
FOR BACK CAN QUEST THE U. S.
SENATE. I THANK YOUNG I THINK
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING BILL I. AS
WE JUST AD NAUSEAM ON FOR WE ARE
IN THE MIDST OF A NATIONAL GUN
VIOLENCE CRISIS- THE NUMBER ONE
KILLER KIDS EIGHT CLEARLY A
PUBLIC HEALTH EPIDEMIC AND IT IS
SHOCKING TO ME THAT ANYONE WOULD
BE OPPOSED TO A BILL THAT WOULD
TRY TO SEEK TO REGULATE. AND
LIMIT THE PRODUCTION OF A NON
TRACEABLE. NON REGISTERED THREE
D. GHOST GUNS HI THIS IS IT THAT
GOOD BILL I EIGHT AND IT JUST
SHOWS THE SAD STATE OF WHERE A
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON THIS
DEBATE. BUT I WOULD ASK TO BE.
JOINED AS A CO AUTHOR OF THE
APPROPRIATE TIME AND WOULD LIKE
TO MOVE THE BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU CENTERMAN ALL RIGHT
SENTIMENT PREPARE TO BE SHOCKED
CENTER WILK. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR GREAT BILL PLAN IS
SUPPORTED TODAY BACK ON NOVEMBER
FOURTEENTH THE TWENTY NINETEEN
HAD A STUDENT GOING CAMPUS ABOUT
SEVEN OH FIVE AM AND WAS HAD
BEEN SPURNED BY A GIRL AND ENDED
UP KILLING TWO STUDENTS WARNING
TO STUDENTS BEFORE KILLING
HIMSELF DID IT WITH A GHOST GUN.
SO WE NEED TO GET RID OF THESE
IN FACT YOU WEREN'T THERE BUT IN
MY HOUSE LAST YEAR I HAD A
HELPFUL MOMENT. THAT WOULD
ACTUALLY ST IN THE PENALTIES FOR
THOSE THAT. THAT HAD GOES GUNS
AND MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER
SIDE I'LL DECIDED. TO
UNFORTUNATELY TO TABLE IT SO
YOU'VE BEEN A LEADER IN IN THIS.
APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND
HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT TODAY
ALREADY THANK YOU LET ME LET ME
APOLOGIZE THAN WELCOME- IN A
MOMENT OF JOCULARLY I. WAS
DEMONSTRATE MY IMPLICIT BIAS AND
I APOLOGIZE SO. I'M USED TO IT
ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT- THIS IS-
OKAY NOW IT'S ALL WERE. BUT ANY
EVENT. SO ARE- THE NEW IS MY THE
BILL WHICH LIKE. YES AGAIN THANK
YOU VERY MUCH I ALSO WANT TO
JUST HIGHLIGHT THINK- GIFFORD-
BRADY MOMS ABOUT ACTUALLY EVERY
TOWN OF THOSE WHO CALLED. IN AND
GIVING THEIR SUPPORT ON TEN
EIGHTY NINE WE BELIEVE AGAIN
THAT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION- THIS IS A RIGHT THING
TO DO I WAS HORRIFIED. TO HEAR
ABOUT WHAT A FATHER DID TO HIS
THREE CHILDREN AND THE SOCIAL
WORKER THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF
CALIFORNIA WHERE WE I MEAN. WHEN
YOU LOOK AT NOW WHEN I WAS
GROWING UP NOW I'M DATING MYSELF
WE USED TO EARTHQUAKES RICH
REELS BUT NOW WITH PARENT KIDS
IN CASE OF THERE'S ACTIVE
SHOOTER. SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH
THAT AND WE HAVE TO DO IS
POLICYMAKERS EVERYTHING WE CAN
TO MAKE. OUR PLACES WHERE WE
GATHER SAFE I RESPECTFULLY ASK
BUT I BOTH APPROPRIATE TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH- IT'S BEEN.
MOVED BY SERMON. BUT CERTAIN
BECAUSE ROLE THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER SEVENTY A TEN A NINE. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS UMBERG HI NUMBER
FIVE WILK ALL RIGHT WILK AYE.
ALLEN HI ASHLEY CABALLERO THE
RUSSELL. LAYERED WHERE'D I AM IN
. MEN I AM THE LOW STERN AYE
STERN ONLINE WIENER. SIX TWO
ZERO SIX ZERO PUT THAT ON CALL
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FRIEDMAN AND LET ME JUST-
THANK THE FOLKS THAT THAT HAVE
OF RESPONDED TO MY- CLARION CALL
TO. COME DOWN TO COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM SO SETTLEMENT WE'RE
GOING TO GO WITH THE SETTLEMENT
FRIEDMAN ON AB SIX FOUR FIVE.
AND THEN IF NO ONE ELSE SHOWS UP
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. GRAYSON YOU'LL
BE AFTER THAT AND I SEXY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER TODD IS ALSO HERE
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I WANT TO
START BY ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS AND WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIRMAN HAS COMMITTEE STAFF
ESPECIALLY FOR WORKING SO
COOPERATIVE TO BELIEVE WITH OUR
OFFICE. SB SIX FORTY FIVE IS A
MEASURED FIVE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM
THAT AUTHORIZES LOS ANGELES SAN
FRANCISCO SAN JOSE OAKLAND
GLENDALE AND LONG BEACH. FOR THE
TO USE SPEED CAMERAS TO ENFORCE
SPEED LIMITS. SPEED CAMERA BILLS
HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTED IN
CALIFORNIA SINCE TWO THOUSAND
FIVE. I FIRST WORKED ON THIS
BILL BACK IN TWO THOUSAND TWENTY
ONE WHEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER TO WITH
THE LEAD AUTHOR ON THE BILL. AND
IT'S BEEN A THREE YEAR EFFORT IN
THIS. IN IN COMMITTEES. TO TRY
TO GIVE COMMUNITIES. THIS VERY
VITAL TOOL. TO START TO TRY TO
HELP SAVE LIVES. THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME A FEAT SB CAMERA BILL
HAS PASSED WITH BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT AT EITHER HOUSE OF THE
ASSEMBLY. WITH THE SUPPORT OF
BOTH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF
THE ASSEMBLY TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEE. IT'S ALSO THE FIRST
SPEED CAMERA BILL TO PASS OUT OF
SENATE TRANSPORTATION. CONCERNS
HAVE BEEN RAISED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT THAT CAMERAS WERE
GOING TO REPLACE THEM SO I WANT
TO. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS HAVE
BEEN RAISED OVER TIME ABOUT
USING SPEED CAMERAS AND TELL YOU
WHAT WE'VE DONE TO ADDRESS THEM
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WHAT
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE.
THROUGH THE INTERACTIONS THAT
WE'VE HAD WITH STAKEHOLDERS IS
REALLY A MODEL ORDINANCE FOR THE
ENTIRE NATION. PAUL WHO WANT TO
TRY FOR CITY WHO WANTED TO USE
THESE PROGRAMS. AND BEFORE I SAY
THAT I WAS GOING TO READ YOU A
LOT OF STATISTICS AND I'M NOT
GOING TO. ABOUT HOW SPEED KILLS.
ABOUT HOW EVERY FIVE MILES AN
HOUR MORE THE CARS GOING HOW
EXPONENTIALLY WORSE IT GETS FOR
PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS THAT
ARE HIT BY THAT CAR. AND HOW
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS
WE'VE SEEN IT REALLY AN
EXPONENTIAL INCREASE. IN DEATHS
AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON OUR
ROAD. MAP MANY OF WHICH- ARE DUE
TO SPEEDING RECKLESS DRIVING AND
STREET RACING SOMETHING THAT IS
NOW EPIDEMIC ACROSS OURS OUR
STATE. AND WHY CITIES AND
STAKEHOLDERS. ARE SO INTENT ON
HAVING THIS TOOL BECAUSE THE- AS
OUR POLICE CHIEF SAID YESTERDAY
MORNING AT A PRESS CONFERENCE.
POLICE CHIEF OF GLENDALE WE
CANNOT PUT AN OFFICER IN EVERY
CORNER. OKAY SO WE HAVE HEARD
FROM A CONCERNS BY SOME LAW
ENFORCEMENT THE CAMERAS WE'RE
GOING TO REPLACE THEM. SO WE
NEGOTIATED AMENDMENTS TO LIMIT
CAMERAS TO ONLY BE ABLE TO COVER
TWENTY FIVE PERCENT. OF THE HIS
INJURY STREETS ONLY IN EACH
JURISDICTION WHICH IS ABOUT 1%
OF STREETS THAT'S IF THEY WERE
EVEN ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW
FINANCIALLY WHICH THEY'RE NOT.
CONCERNS WERE RAISED AT THIS
BILL WOULD TARGET LOW INCOME
INDIVIDUALS AND HARM THEM. VERY
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. SO WE TOOK
A MOMENT TO LOWER FINES TO BE
EXTREMELY LOW. AND PROVIDE EVEN
LOWER FINES BASED ON INCOME.
UNLIKE A TRADITIONAL SPEEDING
TECH OUT OF ANY OF YOU EVER
GOTTEN ONE I'M SURE YOU HAVE
NOT. BUT A TRADITIONAL SPEEDING
TICKET CARRIES A MINIMUM FINE.
OF TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY
DOLLARS WHICH QUICKLY ESCALATES
WAY UP SOMETIMES TO FIVE HUNDRED
DOLLARS OR SO. PLUS A POINT ON
YOUR LICENSE THAT OF COURSE ADDS
MONEY TO YOUR INSURANCE. AND THE
POTENTIAL FOR MISDEMEANOR
FAILURE TO APPEAR IN COURT. THE
FINES OF THIS BILL START AT JUST
FIFTY DOLLARS AND YOU HAVE TO BE
GOING ELEVEN MILES AN HOUR OVER
THE SPEED LIMIT. AND WE PUT IN A
MEASURE SAYING THAT THE FIRST
TICKET FOR EVERYBODY. IS A
WARNING. A WARNING. THE MIDDLE.
TO WOULD HAVE TO. FIVE SPEEDING
TICKETS FROM A CAMERA BEFORE
WILL COST MORE THAN A SINGLE
TICKET. ISSUED BY A POLICE
OFFICER. A FAMILIES OF FOUR
MAKING LESS THAN SIXTY NINE
THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. MUST BE
OFFERED A 50% REDUCTION IN FINE
TO THAT'S TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS
FOR THE SPEEDING TICKET. THOSE
FAMILIES WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE
TEN TICKETS BEFORE IT WILL COST
MORE THAN ONE TICKET. CURRENTLY
I SHOULD BUY OFF. OFFERED BY A
POLICE OFFICER. THOSE LIVING
UNDER THE POVERTY LINE MUST BE
OFFERED AN 80% REDUCTION IN THAT
FINE OR COMMUNITY SERVICE. AS
WELL AS A PAYMENT PLAN CAPPED AT
TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS A MONTH. A
LOW INCOME DRIVER WOULD HAVE TO
RECEIVE TWENTY FIVE TICKETS FROM
A CAMERA. BEFORE COST MORE THAN
ONE TRADITIONAL SPEEDING TICKET
. NOW CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED
THAT CAMERAS MIGHT ONLY BE THERE
TO GENERATE REVENUE RATHER THAN
TO IMPROVE SAFETY. SO WE PUT A
MEASURE IN THE BILL TO PROTECT
RESIDENTS FROM CAMERAS BEING
PLACED IN AREAS TO GENERATE
REVENUE. UNDER THE FIVE YEAR
PILOT PROGRAM IF THE CAMERAS ARE
NOT REDUCING SPEEDING. REDUCING
THE NUMBER OF TICKETS ISSUED BY
TWENTY PERCENT. WITHIN THE FIRST
EIGHTEEN MONTHS. OR BY CHANGING
THE AVERAGE SPEED OF THE ROAD. A
SPEED FEEDBACK SIGN HAS TO BE
INSTALLED AND A CITY HAS TO
START PLANNING CONSTRUCTION. OF
TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO SLOW
CARS DOWN TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT
CAMERA. IF CONSTRUCTION IS NOT
BE GONE IN TWO YEARS THE CITY'S
CAN NO LONGER USE THE CAMERA AND
THAT LOCATION. OUR REVENUES
GENERATED BY THESE TICKETS
CANNOT BE PUT INTO A CITY
GENERAL FUND. NOTE WE CAN ONLY
BE USED TO GENERATE TO DO TO PAY
FOR THIS PROGRAM ITSELF. M. TO
FUND IT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES
ON THOSE STREETS. CITIES ARE
PROHIBITED FROM USING THE
REVENUE TO BACK FILL ANY
EXISTING EXPENDITURES ON TRAFFIC
CALMING MEASURES. AT THE CITY
DOES NOT SPEND THE MONEY ON
ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS WITHIN
THREE YEARS. THE REMAINING
REVENUE MUST BE SENT TO THE
STATE FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION
PROGRAM. TO GIVE OTHER CITIES A
CHANCE TO BUILD PROJECTS. THAT
ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST
SAFETY. THE BILL ALLOW CITIES TO
USE A LIMITED NUMBER OF CAMERAS
BASED ON THE CITY'S HIGH INJURY
NETWORK. ONLY AND THEY CAN ALSO
ONLY BE PLAYED TO PROTECT
CHILDREN IN SCHOOL ZONES. ON THE
STREETS WITH THE JURISDICTION
WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF
INJURIES AND DEATHS. USING ABOUT
THE MAGIC MAD THE MATHEMATICAL
FORMULA DEVELOPED BY CALTRANS.
AND IN AREAS THAT HAVE HAD AT
LEAST FOUR CALLS FOR SPEED
CONTEST AND SIDESHOWS. CERN'S
HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT THE
CAMERAS WHAT IMPACT PRIVACY AND
CREATE A SURVEILLANCE STATE. SO
WE PUT A MEASURE IN THE BILL
THAT CAMERAS CAN ONLY TAKE
PICTURES OF A PERSON'S LICENSE
PLATE. THERE'S NO FACIAL
RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY ALLOWABLE
UNDER THIS BILL. AND THE
PICTURES HAVE TO BE DESTROYED IN
FIVE DAYS. IF NO TICKETS GIVEN
FIVE DAYS OR SIXTY DAYS IF
THERE'S A VIOLATION GIVEN. AND
THAT'S TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO
ARGUE AGAINST IT. THE
INFORMATION CAPTURE COULD ONLY
BE USED TO ENFORCE SPEED LIMITS-
AND AGAIN THE FACIAL RECOGNITION
TECHNOLOGY IS STRICTLY
PROHIBITED. PLUS WE HAVE A CUT
YOU THE CITIES HAVE TO HAVE
CONTRACTS WITH ANY OPERATORS
INVENT VENDORS. THAT THEY CANNOT
SHARE ANY OF THE DATA THAT'S
COLLECTED. CONCERNS WERE RAISED
AT THE CAMERAS WILL CREATE
GOTCHA MOMENTS SO WE MADE THIS
BILL TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE
GOING AT LEAST ELEVEN MILES AN
HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT AND WE
HAVE TO WARN PEOPLE BEFORE THEY
GO COME INTO ZONES. THAT HAVE-
SPEED CAMERAS WE ALSO HAVE TO
HAVE A THIRTY A THIRTY DAY
PUBLICITY CAMPAIGN BEFORE THE
PROGRAM COULD TAKE AFFECT AT A
SIXTY DAY WARNING PERIOD. THE
FIRST TICKET FOR GOING UP TO
FIFTEEN MILES AN HOUR OVER THE
SPEED LIMIT FOR ANYBODY IS JUST
A WARNING AND THAT'S REGARDLESS
OF WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE PUT IN.
SCHOOL JONES B. LIMITS CAN ONLY
BE ENFORCED WHEN THERE ARE
FLASHING BEACONS PRESENT SO THIS
IS NOT ABOUT GOTCHA. CONCERNS
WERE RAISED THAT THE CAMERAS
WOULD TARGET PEOPLE OF COLOR. WE
TOOK A MEMBERS REQUIRING THE
CAMERAS ARE EVENLY PLACED
THROUGHOUT THE CITY. EVEN WHILE
NOTING THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE
PRIMARILY THE ONES BEING KILLED
IN TRAFFIC VIOLENCE. ACROSS OUR
STATE. NOW TWENTY TWENTY ONE
ALMOST FORTY THREE THOUSAND
PEOPLE DIED. IN TRAFFIC VIOLENCE
THE UNITED STATES IN CALIFORNIA
TWENTY TO OVER TWENTY TWO
THOUSAND. ALMOST TWENTY THREE
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE
WERE KILLED OR SERIOUSLY
INJURED. THAT YEAR. THAT'S EIGHT
ALMOST A 16% INCREASE IN TWENTY
TWENTY. ACCORDING TO NHTSA. THE
NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY
BOARD SPEEDING IS A MAJOR FACTOR
IN TRAFFIC COLLISIONS AND AGAIN
I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO GO
INTO THE TO DISTRICTS BUT
BELIEVE ME. IT'S BAD. WE ALSO
KNOW THAT SPEED CAMERAS WORK.
THEY HAVE BEEN PROVEN EFFECTIVE
IN SLOWING DRIVERS DOWN REDUCING
COLLISIONS AND REDUCING
FATALITIES. A TWENTY THOUSAND
FIVE SYSTEM REVIEW OF FOURTEEN.
OF SAFE SYSTEMS IN CANADA EUROPE
AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND. BROWN
CRASH REDUCTIONS OF BETWEEN 5%
AND SIXTY NINE PERCENT. INJURY
REDUCTIONS OF BETWEEN 12% TO
SIXTY FIVE PERCENT. AND FATALITY
REDUCTIONS OF SEVENTEEN TO
SEVENTY ONE PERCENT. AT SPEED
SAFETY SYSTEM LOCATIONS AFTER
PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION. THEY'RE
ALSO INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE THE
SPEED CAMERAS AT INCREASING
COMPLIANCE IN NEW YORK CITY
INSTITUTE A SPEED CAMERA PROGRAM
THEY'VE SEEN A 73% DECREASE IN
SPEEDING. AND NEARLY HALF OF THE
DRIVERS WHO RECEIVED A SPEEDING
TICKET IN BOTH NEW YORK CITY AND
CHICAGO. NEVER RECEIVED A SECOND
TICKET OVER THE COURSE OF AT
LEAST THREE YEARS OF THE CAMERAS
OPERATING BECAUSE IT CHANGE
THEIR BEHAVIOR. ANOTHER 19% OF
THOSE IN NEW YORK NEVER RECEIVED
A THIRD TICKET IN CHICAGO MORE
THAN 80% OF DRIVERS NEVER
RECEIVED MORE THAN THREE
TICKETS. SPEAK CAMERAS WILL SAVE
LIVES AND INCREASE COMPLIANCE
AND THAT'S WHY THE NATIONAL
TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD AND THE
CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND
NOW THE U. S. DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION. IN THE UNITED
STATES CONGRESS ARE ADVOCATING
ADVOCATING FOR STATES TO USE
THEM TO SAVE LIVES. SO ONCE
AGAIN THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM
LET'S SEE IF IT WORKS IN
CALIFORNIA AND STOP THE CARNAGE.
MY WITNESSES TODAY OR FRED KELLY
THE DIRECTOR OF OAKLAND
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND
DARLENE SMITH FOUNDER AND
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FROM BLACK
LIVES MATTER AND CHANGE FOR US
ALREADY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CLOSURES THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE.
I AM FRED KELLY OPENS DEPARTMENT
OF TRANSPORTATION'S DIRECTOR
NOAH TRY TO BE BRIEF TODAY. I AM
HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY. TO ASK
FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND AUTHORIZING
AB SIX FORTY FIVE LIMITED
PROGRAM TO TEST AND EVALUATE THE
PILOT IMPLEMENTATION. OF SPEED
SAFETY CAMERAS WITHIN SIX
CALIFORNIA CITIES. OAKLAND LIKE
MANY OF OUR PEER CITIES HAVE
EXPERIENCED A DISTURBING. AND
SHARP RISE IN TRAFFIC DEATHS
SINCE THE ONSET OF THE PANDEMIC.
IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO ALONE WE'VE
EXPERIENCED THE HISTORIC HIGH OF
THIRTY SIX. PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST
THEIR LIVES IN OAKLAND DUE TO
TRAFFIC DEATHS. ED WHEN WE DIG
DEEPER WE SEE THAT UNSAFE SPEEDS
ACCOUNT FOR A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.
THAN ANY OTHER COLLUSION FACTOR
. AS A LEADER IN MY CAN. THAT
HAVE TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC VIOLENCE
I STRONGLY BELIEVE. AND I'M OUT
OF IT. THAT WE SIMPLY CANNOT LET
THE STATUS QUO PREVAILED. IN THE
STATUS QUO FOR MY CITY IF THE
BOTTLE OPENERS OR TWO TIMES AS
LIKELY TO BE KILLED OR SEVERELY
INJURED IN A CRASH AND THREE
TIMES AS LIKELY WHILE WALKING.
SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE CERTAINLY
PLAYS A ROLE IN TACKLING THIS
DISPARITY BUT SO TOO DOES
ENFORCEMENT SB SIX FORTY FIVE
PROVIDE AN EQUITABLE EFFECTIVE
MEANS TO ADDRESS THE MOST
RECKLESS AND EGREGIOUS BEHAVIOR.
SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT
HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SUFFER FROM
THE SENSELESS ACTS OF VIOLENCE.
BY SHIFTING AWAY FROM
TRADITIONAL SAFETY ENFORCEMENT
OPERATION SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS
CAN MINIMIZE. BIAS IN DANGEROUS
INTERACTION BETWEEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND OUR BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITIES WHILE
CONVERSELY HOLDING THE MOST
EGREGIOUS GREGIS DRIVERS
ACCOUNTABLE. SB SIX FORTY FIVE
BREAKS NEW GROUND. FOR THE
STRONGEST EQUITY AND PRIVACY
PROVISIONS IN THE NATION FOR
SPEED CAMERAS. I WANT TO THANK
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN FOR HER
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT AB SIX FORTY
FIVE. AND URGE YOUR AYE VOTES
TODAY ALREADY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OF THIS IS SUPPORT OF AB
SIX FOUR FIVE PLEASE PUSH MY
PHONE. OF THE TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THERE'S
ANOTHER PRIMARY WITNESS PLEASE
APPROACH FIRST. GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS DARLENE SMITH I'M
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BLACK LIFE
MATTERS CHANGE FOR US. SOCIAL
JUSTICE NONPROFIT. I AM THE
MOTHER OF THREE. SONS AND THE
SISTER OF TRAIN AND NORMAN
TOWNSEND. WHO WAS MOWED DOWN
LIKE A PIECE OF BRASS AND KILLED
AND HIT. BY A HIT AND RUN
DRIVER. GOING OVER SEVENTY TO
NINETY MILES PER HOUR. ON A
PUBLIC STREET ONE EIGHTY EIGHTH
AND BROADWAY IN THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES WHICH IS SAID TO BE A
REENGINEERED STREET TO MAKE THE
STREETS SAFER. BUT THAT'S SIMPLY
NOT WHAT DOES NOT WHAT HAPPENS
TRAINING. ON DECEMBER TWENTY
FOURTH TWENTY TWENTY TWO
CHRISTMAS EVE. EVENING MY LIFE.
HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. I WILL
FOR EVER BE CHANGE WHAT FAMILY
AND FRIENDS WERE GATHERED
TOGETHER TO HAVE A PAJAMA PARTY
. ONE OF MY SISTERS CAME
UPSTAIRS WHILE I WAS GETTING
READY TO COME DOWN AND TOLD ME
TO SIT DOWN. SHE SAID I HAVE
SOMETHING TO TELL YOU. AND IN
THAT INSTANT I KNEW SOMETHING
WAS WRONG. I KNEW SOMETHING WAS
WRONG I SAID TO HER. WHAT'S
GOING ON SHE SAID PLEASE SIT
DOWN. AND IDEA. AND THEN SHE
TOLD ME THAT MY BEAUTIFUL
BELOVED ONE HAD BEEN HIT AND
KILLED BY A SPEEDING DRIVER WHO
HAD FLED THE SCENE. I FELL TO MY
KNEES. TO MY STOMACH. MY STOMACH
WAS IN DISBELIEF. THANK THIS
COULD NOT BE TRUE. BUT IT WAS.
IT WAS MURDERED BY SPEEDING
MONSTER. HE WAS DRIVING SO FAST
WHEN HE HIT HER SHE FLOW IN THE
AIR AND LANDED FOUR COURSE DOWN
WITH HER BODY TWISTED. AND
DIFFERENT PARTS OF HER BODY
BURST IT OPEN. I AM SO ANGRY
ABOUT THESE IT WAS POSSIBLE
SPEEDERS THAT CARE ABOUT NO ONE
BUT THEMSELVES THANK YOU LAWS
THAT. LIKE COULD MEAN NOTHING
WHEN THEY ARE WHEN THEY MEAN
EVERYTHING TO THE VICTIMS
FAMILIES AND FRIENDS AND THAT'S
WHY I'M HERE TODAY. BECAUSE IN
OUR COMMUNITIES MY PEOPLE ARE
GETTING HIT AND KILLED MY SISTER
WAS KILLED LEAVING FROM DONATING
GIFTS AND FOOD TO
UNDERPRIVILEGED FAMILIES WALKING
AROUND TO GET IN HER TRUCK MA'AM
I'M- WE'RE SORRY AND I'M SORRY
FOR YOUR LOSS I APPRECIATE YOU
TURNING THIS TRAGEDY INTO A
POSITIVE- AND AFTER ASKING TO
WRAP UP THOUGH. OKAY THIS WAS A
STREET THAT WAS RIGHT FOR US TO
BE REDESIGNED SHE WAS TAKEN AWAY
FROM US. I NEVER IN MY WILDEST
DREAMS I COULD BELIEVE THIS. SB
. SIX FORTY FIVE. WOULD MAKE A
CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY WE NEED
THESE CAMERAS PUT IN PLACE
BECAUSE THEY WILL SAVE LIVES.
THEY WILL PEOPLE REALIZE THAT I
CAN'T JUST GO AROUND SPEEDING I
JUST CAN'T GO AROUND DRIVING
THIS FAST BECAUSE IT WILL. TAKE
A LOT IT WILL TAKE YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY
DEFINITELY WALKING OFF THE
ALAMEDA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION AND THE ALAMEDA
CONTRA COSTA TRANSIT DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT. JOHNSTON WITH THE
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IN SUPPORT
. UROS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
GLENDALE HAPPY ARE PROUD TO BE A
CO SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND VERY
PROUD OF THIS BILLS WE ASK YOUR
SUPPORT. SEVEN SHAUNA BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF SAN JOSE PROP CO
SPONSORED THE BILL IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AFTERNOON ROSS BOTH
ABOUT THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS
MET CRIMMINS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA THAT A CONFERENCE OF
OPERATING ENGINEERS PROUD TO BE
HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
. CAROL PORTER FROM SQUARE SAN
FRANCISCO RETIREMENT COMMUNITY
WE SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. HI MY NAME
SAYS SUSAN GEORGE I'M FROM SAN
FRANCISCO I'M A PHYSICIAN THERE.
AND STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL THANK YOU. ANY BROWN ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH
IN SUPPORT. ILLEGAL SEND CRASH
SURVIVOR FROM THE FAMILIES FOR
SAFE STREETS IN SAN FRANCISCO
BAY AREA IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. SYLVIA SOLUTION ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN
FRANCISCO MAYOR LONDON BREED A
CO SPONSOR OF THE MEASURE. ALSO
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT ON BEHALF
OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES AND THE CITY OF WEST
HOLLYWOOD THANK YOU TO YOU.
UNDERESTIMATE AS ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF BERKELEY AND
TRANSPORT THANK YOU. BY COMEAU
TOLD BARNES IN- REPRESENTING
WALK SAN FRANCISCO IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. KADIAN GOT A
FROM THE SAN FRANCISCO MUNICIPAL
TRANSPORTATION AGENCY AND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. DAMING KEVIN
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR STREETS ARE
FOR EVERYONE ALSO SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF. CAL BIKE ACT OF SAN
GABRIEL VALLEY MARIN COUNTY
BICYCLE COALITION. NORWALK YOU
NINETIES MOVIE SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY SANTA MONICA SPOKE STREET
RACING KILL SILICON VALLEY
BICYCLE COALITION SAN DIEGO BY
COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION FAITH
FOR SAFER STREETS. ASSOCIATION A
PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE
PROFESSIONALS CONNOR LYNCH
FOUNDATION SANTA MONICA SAFE
STREETS ALLIANCE FOR LIVABLE
CITIES SOCAL CYCLING I CALAIS
LIFT. BODY FOUNDATION AREA
COUNCIL BERKELEY PATH WONDERS
ASSOCIATION. EMPHASISED THAT
SORRY SOCAL FAMILIES FOR SAFE
STREETS WEST HOLLYWOOD BICYCLE
COALITION STOP FOR EIGHT IN WEST
HOLLYWOOD BICYCLE COALITION
TENDERLOIN TRAFFIC SAFETY TASK
FORCE LIVABLE COMMUNITIES
INITIATIVE. NATIONAL COALITION
FOR SAFER ROADS STREETS FOR
PEOPLE TENDERLOIN COMMUNITY
BENEFIT DISTRICTS INVESTING IN
PLACE ABANDONED SAN FRANCISCO
ALL RIGHT WELL THANK YOU ARE
THESE ARE GROUPS THAT DID OF
ENGAGE YOU TO REPRESENT THEM YES
THEY ARE OKAY ALL RIGHT. ALMOST
DONE JUST A COUPLE MORE THERE
MIGHT. LOS ANGELES WALKS THE
AMERICAN CYCLIST. SOUTH PASADENA
ACTED STREETS. OUR CIRCA SAMPE
SANDY CRIME ACTIONS MONICA
TRANCE MOUNT SALEM NEW EIGHT
CHRISTIAN. CHURCH AND BETHEL
UNSPEAKABLE JOY CHRISTIAN CHURCH
ALL IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
FOR THE LIST OF SUPPORTERS THIS
PLACE THIS BILL ANOTHER BILLS WE
ACTUALLY CAN READ. AND SO IF
THERE'S A LONG LIST THEY SUBMIT
THAT WOULD BE GREAT WILL
INCORPORATE THEM IN THE
ANALYSIS. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT A NOW TURNED
OPPOSITION I SEE THEM WAITING.
EUROPE OPPOSITION TO AB SIX
FORTY FIVE PLEASE PRODUCE THE
MICROPHONE. BAKER KRAMER MATTER
ON BEHALF OF ACLU CALIFORNIA
ACTION AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
TO AB SIX FORTY FIVE. WHILE THE
APPLY THE AUTHORS GOAL OF
ELIMINATING ELIMINATING TRAFFIC
FATALITIES CAUSED BY SPEEDING.
WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE WAY
THE AB SIX FORTY FIVE TRIES TO
SOLVE THE PROBLEM. WE APPRECIATE
THE AUTHOR'S AFFERENTS TO
INCLUDE PRIVACY AND EQUITY
PROVISIONS THERE ARE OTHER
EFFECTIVE MEANS OF ELIMINATING
SPEED BASED TRAFFIC FATALITIES
SUCH AS TRAFFIC THE TRAFFIC
CALMING MEASURES HIGHLIGHTED IN
THE BILL. WHICH DO NOT HAVE AB
SIX FORTY FIVE INHERENT PRIVACY
IN EQUITY PROBLEMS. YET RATHER
THAN CENTER THESE THE BELL
INSTEAD RELIES ON SURVEILLANCE
AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT AND
INCREASED TICKETING. WE
RECOGNIZE THAT TRAFFIC CALMING
MEASURES COST MONEY HOWEVER AB
SIX FORTY FIVE ALSO HAS COSTS
INSTEAD OF CITIES AND COUNTIES
PAYING THE BILL HOWEVER. AB SIX
FORTY FIVE TRANSFERS THE BURDEN
TO VULNERABLE CALIFORNIANS.
AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS
OFTEN DISPROPORTIONATELY TICKET
DRIVERS AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
AND COMMUNITIES EXPERIENCING
POVERTY. ONE ENDING ROCHESTER'S
AUTOMATED TICKETING THREE
SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE
THE MAYOR NOTED IT QUOTE WAS A
PROGRAM THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY
AFFECTED THE POOREST OF CITY
RESIDENTS. AND WAS QUOTE COUNTER
TO OUR EFFORTS TO REVERSE
ROCHESTER'S TROUBLING RATES OF
POVERTY. IN CLEVELAND'S BLACK
DRIVERS RECEIVED 61% OF SPEED
CAMERA TICKETS DESPITE MAKING UP
ONLY 38% OF DRIVERS. SB SIX
FORTY FIVE SURVEILLANCE ENABLED
AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT BASED
SOLUTIONS WILL RECREATE THE SAME
PROBLEMS WE HAVE SEEN ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. AS WELL AS GO AGAINST
RECENT REFORMS TO CALIFORNIA'S
TICKETING LAWS TO REDUCE THE
WELL DOCUMENTED ECONOMIC HARMS
CAUSED BY MASS TICKETING. THE
NEED FOR REDUCING SPEED RELATED
TRAFFIC COLLISIONS DOES NOT
WARRANT THE CREATION OF A NEW
MECHANISM FOR GOVERNMENT
COLLECTION OF LARGE AMOUNTS OF
DATA ON CALIFORNIANS.
PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE ARE
OTHER EFFECTIVE APPROACHES THAT
DO NOT HAVE THESE PROBLEMS. ON
BEHALF OF THE FORESEEABLY HARM
TO COMMUNITIES WE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOU PURSUE TRAFFIC
CALMING SOLUTIONS DIRECTLY AND
ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE ON AB SIX
FORTY FIVE THANK YOU ARE YOU
THINK YOU OTHERS IN OPPOSITION
SB SIX FORTY FIVE PLEASE
APPROACH. HI JADI WITH OAKLAND
PRIVACY IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU
. GOOD AFTERNOON DANNY KENDALL
BECAUSE OR ON WOULD ALLOW ON
BEHALF OF THE ELECTRONIC
FRONTIER FOUNDATION ALIGNER
COMMENTS. RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
YOUR COMMENTS WITH THE ACLU
NINETY THANK YOU. OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION SAYING NO ONE ELSE
BROACHES MICHAEL LISTER THE
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION AB SIX. FOUR FIVE
. OF COURSE PLAYED IN A MIXED
WHICH SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE'LL BE GOING TO
LINE THREE TWENTY THREE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. WE'RE WITH LOS ANGELES
UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT. NATURAL ONE THREE
THIRTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
HOME WITH THE BASKETBALL IN
CINEMA COUNTY BEYOND THE HALF OF
THE NATIONAL VISION ZERO NETWORK
IN STRONG SUPPORT. NATURAL LINE
THREE TWENTY FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. KAREN BERGEN COMMITTEE
MEMBER. MARC WATTS WITH THE-
EMPHASIS WILL CARRY
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ONE
ELSE THANK YOU WITH TIME IS
SHORT ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IS THAT ARE
STERN TH FAMOUS CHAIR I WANT TO
FLOOD USE SOME MEMBER FOR STATE
WITH THIS IS. AND GETTING INTO
THE WEEDS HERE REALLY BUILDING
THIS BILL OUT TO YOU AND YOUR
STAFF- THE PROTECTIONS YOU
OUTLINED. I THINK MAKE THIS BILL
QUITE DEFENSIBLE EVEN TO THE
MOST ARDENT ADVOCATES- WERE
WORRIED ABOUT SAY PRIVACY OR-
LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUES THERE'S
SOME LOCAL ISSUES THAT OBVIOUSLY
WE CAN'T DEAL WITH HERE. YOU
KNOW WHAT IT WHAT IT INDIVIDUAL
CITIES INTERACTION WITH THEIR
TRAFFIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT- FOR
POLICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT- I
THINK WE NEED TRAFFIC COPS- I
THINK WE NEED THEM CERTAINLY
CITY AND COUNTY OF LA. VENTURA
COUNTY WHERE I AM- BUT- I DON'T
THINK THIS BILL. THERE'S A LOT
OF OTHER ISSUES THAT PEOPLE WANT
TO BRING TO THIS BILL THAT ARE
NECESSARILY IN THE CORE THIS
BILL AND YOU CAN'T SOLVE
EVERYTHING THE LACK OF FUNDING
FOR ATP WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE
ALL THAT WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
THIS BILL DOESN'T DISPLACE THAT
BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE
OBVIATING THE ABILITY TO FIGHT
FOR THAT- TRAFFIC SAFETY HAVING
MORE CHP OR- WHATEVER LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT I THINK WE NEED MORE
THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T OBVIATE
THAT. SO THIS THIS PIECE SO I
GOTTA TELL YOU JUST POINT OUT OF
MY LITTLE DRIVEWAY EVERY SINGLE
MORNING. ON THE FULTON- WHERE
YOU KNOW SEVENTY FIVE MILES AN
HOUR IN A THIRTY FIVE MILE AN
HOUR STREET RIGHT IN THE CITY OF
LA AND WATCHING MY- WIFE GET HIT
WITH MY NEWBORN BABY ANY KID IN
THE CAR THANK RIGHT IN FRONT OF
MY HOUSE- IT. IT HAUNTS ME AND
TO LOSE FRIENDS. AS KIDS I'M A
NEIGHBOR JUST LAST WEEK
DOCUMENTS ANOTHER EIGHTY MILE AN
HOUR ON PIANO AND- YOU KNOW I
CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST OF NAMES
. I'M IS GONNA CHANGE HOPE THIS
PILOTS I HOPE YOU'RE EXPENSIVE
ENOUGH WITH THIS FRANKLY HOPE WE
GIVE ENOUGH OF A SHOT I MEAN I'M
LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THRESHOLD
HERE. FOR COUNTIES OVER. OR
JURISDICTIONS OVER I THINK IT'S
THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND IS YOUR-
YOU'RE CUT OFF. I'M SORRY THREE
MILLION SO NO MORE THAN A
HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE SYSTEMS. IN
A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE TO COVER
ALL OF LA IS NOT A LOT- SO I I'M
A LITTLE NERVOUS THAT WE'RE NOT
GOING TO GET A STRONG ENOUGH
PILOT BUT I. I APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU HAD TO SORT OF GET TO THIS
POINT I'D LOVE TO BE OUT AS CO
AUTHOR AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME
AND- HAVING MOVED. ALL RIGHT
CENTER STERN'S MOVIE BUILT ON
CENTER WILL. THEN CENTER MEN AND
CENTERS ARE ALSO. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR I HAVE NEVER EVER
EVER EVER EVER. SUPPORTED THE-
CAMERA PROGRAM BUT I'M DO I'M
GOING TO DO THIS ONE. ARE FOR
NUMBER RE ONE HIS SOAK IS SO
COMPREHENSIVE AND I REALLY LIKE
THE WAY THE U. YOU LAID OUT. HOW
YOU TRY TO DRESS ALL THE
OPPONENTS. CONCERNS BACKED.
READING THE BILL IT IS
COMPLICATED IS A IS A PICKLEBALL
RULES BOOK. SO YOU'VE REALLY
DONE A GREAT JOB AND THAT'S
THAT'S ONE AND THEN NUMBER TWO
BABIES BECAUSE I'M GETTING
OLDER. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
EVERYBODY SPEEDING NOWADAYS NOW
THAT THEY JUST HAD A DETERMINE
HAD SIMILAR SAYS. SITUATION IS
CENTER STERN JUST HAD DINNER
WITH A FRIEND OF MINE THIRTY
NINE HAD SEEN HIM. HE WAS
DRIVING IS EIGHTY YEAR OLD
MOTHER BACK FROM A DOCTOR'S
APPOINTMENT GOT T. BONED IN AN
INTERSECTION WITH SOMEBODY GOING
EXCESSIVE SPEEDS SO. WE'VE WE'VE
GOT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO
PROTECT LIVES. I REALLY I KNOW
BECAUSE EVEN WORK ON THIS FOR A
LONG TIME I THINK THIS A GREAT
PROPOSAL. AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT.
ALL PANS OUT AND IF IT WORKS
LET'S. BROADEN IT SO THANK YOU.
RT THANK YOU CENTERMAN. THANK
YOU I DON'T PLAY PICKLEBALL SITE
I JUST ASSUME THERE WERE NO
RULES THERE BUT THAT. KINDA
LOOKS LIKE THAT- SO- AS FAR AS
THIS BILL I I'VE I PLUGGED THE
PURPOSE OF THE BILL AND I WAS
CERTAINLY MOVE BY YOUR WITNESS-
I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
PRIVACY ISSUES OF THIS AND I DID
THERE'S A RECENT REPORT THAT-
THAT. SOME OF THESE. PHOTOGRAPHS
OF THE LICENSES FROM OUT OF
STATE VEHICLES HAD BEEN SHARED
AND OBVIOUSLY IN A HYPER
POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT THERE'S
CONCERNS THAT. WOMEN COME IN
CALIFORNIA FOR REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTH CARE FOR EXAMPLE MIGHT BE
ATTRACTED THAT INFORMATION IS
BEING SHARED SO. I KNOW YOU TOOK
SOME AMENDMENTS AND I APPRECIATE
THAT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU
COULD TALK THROUGH THE PRIVACY
IMPLICATIONS BRIEFLY. SURE IF
YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE RECENT
REVELATIONS ABOUT THE SHARING OF
DATA ILLEGALLY I WENT MIGHT ADD
IN SACRAMENTO. I WANT TO BE VERY
CLEAR THAT THE DATA THAT WAS
SHARED WITH EITHER THAT LAW IS
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS BEING
COLLECTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT-
THAT WENT INTO A DATABASE THAT
IS OFTEN USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO TRACK CRIMES ACROSS STATE.
GROUNDS THESE CAMERAS ARE NOT.
TO BE USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND ARE BUILT THEY'RE ACTUALLY
USED BY THE CITY'S IT'S IN SORT
OF IN A DIFFERENT TRAFFIC CODES
ON THE CRIMINAL. PART OF THINGS
IT'S MORE ALONG THINK OF IT
ALONG THE SAME LINES AS A
PARKING TICKET. VIOLATION SO IT
WOULDN'T BE GOING INTO THE SAME
DATABASE. AND WHAT WAS DONE IF
IT WAS DONE WITHOUT ALLEGE TO
HAVE BEEN DONE IN. SACRAMENTO
WAS ILLEGAL UNDER OUR LAW. AND
CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO. MAKE SURE
THAT ALL. OF OUR AGENCIES FOLLOW
THE LAW. SO THERE ARE CITY AND
I'VE I'VE GOT I GOT A- TICKET
ONCE IN A CITY. THAT USES A
LICENSE PLATE READERS TO GET
PARKING TICKETS. THERE'S NOTHING
IN LAW THAT TELLS THEM THAT THEY
HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THAT FOR ALL
I KNOW MY LICENSE PLATE IS
STILL. SOMEWHERE IN A DATABASE
IN THAT CITY. ARBIL IS REALLY
SETTING A NEW STANDARD. OF
SAYING FIVE DAYS YOU MUST DELETE
THE DATA WHEN I WAS RUNNING IF
YOU COULD SPEAK SPECIFIC- IN
MIDDLE YOU MEANT. SO WE ARE- AND
THIS THIS WASN'T THIS WAS
DESIGNED INTO THE BILL THIS IS
NOT AN AMENDMENT WE- HEARD THESE
CONCERNS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO
DO THIS. AND SO WE DESIGNED INTO
THE BILL. A PROCESS WHEREBY
WITHIN FIVE DAYS. OF TAKING OF
THE PHOTO. THERE'S NO VIOLATION
IS ALL THAT DATA GETS HURTS IT'S
NOT ALLOWED TO BE LEFT IN THE
SYSTEM. AND THEN IF THERE IS A
TICKET IT'S NINETY DAYS AND THE
REASON IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO
GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO COME BACK
AND SAY HEY THAT WASN'T MY
LICENSE PLATE YOU GOT THE NUMBER
WRONG. LET ME SEE THE CAMERA. SO
WE WANTED TO GIVE PEOPLE ENOUGH
TIME TO YOU KNOW FILE A- OF. A-
WHAT'S THE WORD. A FEW HILL. YOU
APPEAL. IF THEY FELT THAT THEY
WERE GIVEN THE- IN A- BUT- NINE
DAYS WHAT WE- WAS THE CRY.
AMOUNT OF TIME THAT AFTER THAT
THAT DATA MUST GET PERSON THAT'S
ONLY IF A- VIOLATION IS GIVEN.
OKAY WITH THE FIVE DAYS OFFERS
THE PROTECTION SERVICES FOR A
GUY GOT IT BECAUSE I AM LOOKING
NINE OUNCES AND IT SAYS THAT.
IT'S AMENDMENTS WERE TAKEN TO
LIMIT- THE THREE YEAR.
ACCREDITED TO HAVE A THREE YEAR
RETENTION PROVISION. THAT WOULD
BE A LIMITED ONLY INFORMATION
THAT THE VEHICLE CITED AND
CONVICTED OF A VIOLATION. SORRY
I SOME READING FROM THE ANALYSIS
HERE- THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC
RESTRICTIONS THE BILL ABOUT THE
CAMERAS USED IN THE SYSTEM SO
CAPTURE WHILE THERE ARE
RETENTION LIMITATIONS
ADMINISTRATIVE RECORDS AND
PHOTOGRAPHS. CAN BE KEPT UP TO
THREE YEARS IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES. TO ADDRESS THESE
CONCERNS THE AUTHOR HAS AGREED
TO AMENDMENTS THAT LIMIT THE
THREE YEAR RETENTION PROVISION.
THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT THE
VEHICLE WAS CITED AND CONVICTED
OF VIOLATIONS SO THE REASON THAT
WE HAVE THE THREE YEARS. WANT TO
BE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE WHO GET A
VIOLATIONS BECAUSE WE TOOK A
MOMENT. IN TRANSPORTATION TO
MAKE THE FIRST TICKET A WARNING.
WE HAVE TO GET WE CAN'T ALLOW
PEOPLE TO GET A WARNING AND THEN
DELETE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY
RECEIVED A VIOLATION. THEY CAN
JUST RECEIVE ANOTHER WARNING
AGAIN THE VERY NEXT YEAR OKAY WE
HAVE TO WHAT WHEN YOU'VE BEEN
GIVEN THAT THE WE GET RID OF. I
THAT I. GOT INTERRUPTED BUT I
FEEL LIKE I'M YOU WERE TALKING
ABOUT EACH OTHER SO LET ME JUST
DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT YEAH ASK
YOU. THIS SPECIFIC THING I'M
WONDERING ABOUT HERE'S
PHOTOGRAPHS IT SAYS. PHOTOGRAPHS
CAN BE KEPT UP TO THREE YEARS IN
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES- AND I'M
WONDERING IF THAT IS. SOMETHING
. THAT YOU ARE LIMITING. FOR THE
FULL CAN ONLY BE CAMPUS OKAY
OKAY THAT THE NOTE. THE IT'S
THE- ITSELF THAT SOME RECEIVED.
THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP
ON RECORD BECAUSE NOW EVERYBODY
GETS A WARNING THE FIRST TIME
OKAY SO AND LIKE I SAID AT THE
OUTSET I. APPLAUD THE PURPOSE OF
THIS I'LL BE VOTING FOR TODAY TO
MOVE THE BILL THE APPROPRIATE I
WOULD MAKE A MOVE TO MOTION OF
THE BILL. BUT I DO WANT YOU TO
KEEP WORKING ON THE PRIVACY
CONCERNS BECAUSE THOSE ARE REAL
CONCERNS THAT. PEOPLE HAVE AND I
MEAN WE CAN POLITELY POINTED YOU
KNOW. PEOPLE THERE'S ALL SORTS
OF CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH OUR
IMAGES GET CAPTURED BUT- YOU'RE
PROPOSING TO ADD A LOT OF NEW
PICTURES. INTO SOME DATABASE AND
WHETHER IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT
WHETHER IT'S- CITIES YOU WE KNOW
THAT THESE THINGS GET HACKED WE
KNOW THAT THEY CAN BE. MISUSED
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE. TAKING EVERY MEASURE.
POSSIBLE TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT
HOW WE CAN. LIMIT PRIVACY
ISSUES. THANK YOU. FOR THANK YOU
ARM. THE RUSSELL YES- IF YOU
COULD- EXPLAIN JUST QUICKLY. HOW
IT IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS
WHERE THE AREAS ARE GOING TO BE
SELECTED- BECAUSE I THINK THAT
GOES TO THE ISSUE. OF OUR
COMMUNITIES AND- I AM- ACLU'S MY
GUIDING LIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO
OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. NO DOUBT
ABOUT IT AND SO AND EVERY TIME.
DIFFERENT ISSUES AROUND PARKING
EVERYTHING HAS COME UP WHAT THE
IMPACT IS GOING TO BE AN ALL
VOTE MULTIPLE COMMUNITY SO. IF
YOU CAN SORT OF ADDRESS THAT AS
AS I SEE IT. THE OF. WHERE THESE
LOCATIONS ARE. HAS A LOT TO DO
WITH. YOU KNOW WILL THERE BE.
REAL OBJECTIVE WAYS OF DECIDING
WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE
SELECTED. YES AND WE'VE DONE A
LOT OF THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT
SHOULD WORK SO FIRST OF ALL. THE
AREAS THAT THEIR USE ARE VERY
LIMITED IN TERMS OF THE HIGH
INJURY NETWORKS. SCHOOL ZONES
AND AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD FOUR
OR MORE CALLS ABOUT STREET
RACING SO PLACES LIKE THE SIX
STREET BRIDGE FOR INSTANCE. IS
THE TYPE OF AREA WE'RE
ENVISIONING WHAT WE JUST KNOW WE
HAVE AN EPIDEMIC PROBLEM. OF
PEOPLE DOING SPEED CONTESTS AND
STREET RACING IN CERTAIN
LOCATIONS. SECONDLY THERE NEEDS
TO BE IT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF
THE BILL A COMMUNITY PROCESS AND
EVERY CITY THAT'S A LITTLE
DIFFERENT YOU KNOW IN GLENDALE
TO TRAFFIC AND SAFETY IS A
TRAFFIC AND SAFETY. COMMISSION
THAT COULD HOLD A HEARING WHERE
WE TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO WE DO ENVISION IN THE
BILL REQUIRES A ROBUST
DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WITH
PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS. AS
WELL. BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CITY'S
NOT REQUIRED. I BELIEVE THAT
THEY ARE REQUIRED THEY ARE
REQUIRED REQUIRED TO DO SOME
VERSION OF IT TO JOIN THE
MAXIMUM. VERSION OF IT. THERE
DAVID YOU WANT TO JUST TO HELP.
WELL IT LOOKS THIS LET'S DO THIS
GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE THE
INFORMATION TO THE AUTHOR-
RATHER THAN STARTING TO CALL
WITNESSES AT RANDOM FROM THE
AUDIENCE. RIGHT AFTER THIS OKAY
THE STOCK WAS FINE GO AHEAD AND
THE END. HAVE YOUR CONFERENCE.
OKAY SO THEY'RE THEY'RE REQUIRED
UNDER THE BILL THESE ARE MOMENTS
THAT WE'VE TAKEN THROUGH VARIOUS
COMMITTEES THE LEGISLATURE. AND
WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO
SUGGESTIONS ON WAYS TO DO IT
BETTER. BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO
MEET WITH- EQUITY GROUPS-
THROUGHOUT THE AREA WITHIN THE
SPECIFIC AREA WHEN THEY WANT TO
PUT A CAMERA IN A CERTAIN AREA.
AND ALSO HOLD PUBLIC HEARING A
PUBLIC HEARING THROUGH WHATEVER
TRAFFIC MECHANISM THEY HAVE AND
THE REASON IT'S A LITTLE OPEN IS
BECAUSE OAKLAND IS DIFFERENT
THAN GLENDALE IS DIFFERENT THAN
LOS ANGELES THEY HAVE A
DIFFERENT BODY. THAT DOES THIS
BUT THERE HAS TO BE A PUBLIC
PROCESS OKAY. THANK YOU BUDDY
THANK YOU OTHER QUESTIONS
COMMENTS ALL RIGHT CENTER STERN
IS MOVE THE BILL FEW OTHER
COMMENTS- WITH THREE CHILDREN
THREE OF THEM ONCE BEING
TEENAGERS I'M TRAFFIC. SPEEDING
TICKET ADJACENT- AND CONCERNED-
ABOUT SPEEDING WHICH I THINK IS
INCREASING AND SO I'M GONNA
SUPPORT THIS BILL UNLIKE CENTER
WORK I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED AND
LAST THIRTY TWO YEARS. ALL THE
BILLS THAT USE TECHNOLOGY TO
ENFORCE TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT I'VE BEEN.
DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THE
TECHNOLOGY HAD SOME FLAW I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL BUT I
UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH THOSE WHO ARE.
SIMILARLY CONCERNED- I RESERVE
THE RIGHT NOT TO VOTE FOR IT ON
THE FLOOR. BUT I'M GOING TO
SUPPORT IT AS IT MOVES I THINK
ON THIS COMMITTEE TO DATE. SO
MADAM SECRETARY- I'M SO WOULD
LIKE CLOSE. THE LAST THING I'LL
SAY IS FROM WE TAKE ALL OF THE
CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT
UP VERY SERIOUSLY WE DON'T
DISCOUNT ANY OF THEM WHICH IS
WHY WE'VE DONE SO MUCH WORK TO
DO OUR BEST. TO ADDRESS ALL OF
THEM AS THE BILL MOVES TOWARD IF
IT GETS OUT TODAY WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK ON THAT. LASTLY I WOULD
SAY THAT WE TO TWO THINGS FIRST
FIRST OF ALL. THERE'S A LOT OF
CONCERN THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT
UP TODAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN
HEARING OVER AND OVER. ABOUT THE
IMPACT OF OVER POLICING IN A LOT
OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ABOUT
THE DISPROPORTIONATE OR THE
INEQUITABLE WAY THAT SOMETIMES
TRAFFIC STOPS THEMSELVES ARE
DONE. WITH OFTEN PEOPLE OF COLOR
BEING PRIMARILY THE ONES THAT
ARE PULLED OVER ORG OR TICKETED
FOR VIOLATIONS. THESE CAMERAS
THAT ARE READING ONLY LICENSE
PLATES WILL CONTAIN NONE OF THAT
BIAS I AGREE. THE BIAS COULD BE
WERE YOU PLACE SOME WHICH IS WHY
WE DO HAVE A ROBUST PUBLIC
PROCESS AND STRICT LIMITATIONS
ABOUT WHERE THEY GO. I DO WANT
TO SAY THAT COMPARING OUT THIS
PROGRAM WOULD FAIL PROGRAMS THAT
CONTAIN NONE OF THE EQUITY IN
PRIVACY- REQUIREMENTS OF THIS
BILL. IS DISINGENUOUS. AND
SECONDLY THAT ALTHOUGH. GROUPS
MAY BE CLAIMING TO REPRESENT
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE
IT EVERY TIME HEARING THAT WE'VE
HAD BROUGHT MUNITY MEMBERS FROM
THOSE IMPACTED COMMUNITIES. SO
THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS COULD
HEAR THEIR VOICES. OF WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN. ARE ECONOMICALLY
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE BEEN UNDER INVESTED IN
YEARS BUT ALSO IN SOME WAYS.
HAVE BEEN BEARING THE BRUNT. OF
TRAFFIC VIOLENCE AND JUST PEOPLE
SAYING PLEASE GIVE US TOOLS WE-
OUR LIVES ARE. AS WORTHY.
ENFORCEMENT AS ANYBODY ELSE'S.
AND THIS GIVES US A CHANCE. TO
DO THAT IN A WAY THAT IS
EQUITABLE AND THAT COULD BE A
MODEL. FOR MOVING FORWARD
WITHOUT EVER TO QUESTION I VOTE.
ALREADY THANK YOU MA'AM SIXTY IF
YOU CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN AB SIX
FORTY FIVE MOTIONS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO. THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE UMBERG
HI. NUMBER I WILK HI. WILK I
ALAN. ASHBY CABALLERO. RUSSELL
RUSSELL I WEIRD. WEIRD I AM MEN.
MEN I ANY LOW. STERN AYE STERN
AYE WIENER. THANK YOU. SIX ZERO
SIX ZERO PUT THAT ON CALL A NEXT
WE HAVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON-
I OWN NUMBER EIGHTEEN A. B.
THIRTY NINE. AND FOR THOSE OF
YOU ESPECIALLY THE ASSEMBLY
AUTHORS THAT ARE ASKING WHAT
TIME WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE
DONE- WE HAVE TWENTY THREE MORE
BILLS TO GO. SO IF YOU'RE TRYING
TO CALCULATE YOUR NAP TIME YOU
CAN. THAT'S ABOUT HALFWAY
THROUGH OUR AGENDA YOU CAN
FIGURE ACCORDINGLY. SELL ALL
RIGHT- SOME MORE GRAYSON FILE
NUMBER EIGHTEEN AB THIRTY NINE.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS I WILL BE EXPEDITIOUS I
AM PLEASED TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY
BILL THIRTY NINE WHICH WILL HELP
CREATE A SAFER AND MORE
SUSTAINABLE CRYPTOCURRENCY
MARKET FOR CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
AND BUSINESSES. FIRST I DO
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS AND I WANT TO THANK
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR GREAT
WORK. EARLIER THIS YEAR THE
ASSEMBLY AND SENATE BANKING
COMMITTEES HELD AN OVERSIGHT
HEARING IN FEBRUARY TO HEAR WHAT
CALIFORNIA'S DOING TO REGULATE
CRYPTO AND ONE BIG TAKE AWAY
FROM THAT HEARING. IS THAT WE
NEED TO DO MORE WE NEED TO GIVE
D. F. P. I. THE TOOLS IT NEEDS
TO PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE
INNOVATION IN THE CRYPTO
INDUSTRY AB THIRTY NINE WILL
GIVE THE FBI THOSE TOOLS. AND
THIS BILL WILL HELP INDIVIDUAL
INVESTORS AND THE COMPANIES
HOPING TO GROW THEIR OPERATIONS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. A. B. THIRTY
NINE IS SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR'S
AB TWENTY TWO SIXTY NINE HOWEVER
THERE ARE KEY DIFFERENCES THAT
MAKE THE PROGRAM EASIER FOR BOTH
THE FBI AND CRYPTO COMPANIES.
THESE CHANGES STRENGTHEN THE
PROPOSAL WITHOUT COMPROMISING
ITS CONSUMER PROTECTIONS FOR
EXAMPLE A COMPANY WITH A VALID
NEW YORK LICENSE CAN RECEIVE A
CONDITIONAL LICENSE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. WHICH WILL HELP
PREVENT DELAYS FOR COMPANIES
SEEKING LICENSURE WITH THAT I
WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE- MY
WITNESS TO THE CHAIR ROBERT
MERRELL WHO'S TESTIFYING ON
BEHALF OF CONSUMER FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU MISTER L.
GO AFTER MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
ROBERT CARRILLO EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION CALIFORNIA WERE THE
SPONSORS OF THIS BILL. WE'D LIKE
TO THANK- THE CHAIR OF A SUMMARY
GRAYSON AND- HIS OFFICE- AS HE
POINTED OUT THIS BILL HAS COME.
QUITE A WAYS IT'S BEING FURTHER
REFINED SO THAT IT IS
IMPLEMENTABLE AND ACTIONABLE-
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA LICENSES
ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES. AND WE
THINK IT IS EMINENTLY REASONABLE
THAT THERE BE A LICENSURE REGIME
WITH PROPER REGULATION. WHEN IT
COMES TO CRYPTO- IS SORELY
NEEDED CALIFORNIA WOULD NOT BE
THE FIRST DAY TO GO DOWN THIS
ROAD BUT I THINK. TO GATHER WITH
SOME OF THE OTHER BIG STATES
THAT ARE. THIS ARE ALREADY DOING
IT I THINK WE CAN ESSENTIALLY
WIND UP DE FACTO FILLING THE
GAP. THAT'S THERE AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL BY STEPPING IN AS PART OF
WHAT I REFER TO AS A BIG STATES
COALITION- I KNOW YOU HAVE A
LONG HEARING MISTER CHAIRMAN YOU
JUST SAID HOW. FAR AWAY YOU ARE
FROM THE FINISH LINE I'LL LEAVE
IT AT THAT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS IF AND WHEN THEY COME
UP. URGE YOUR SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. NEXT
WITNESS IN SUPPORT AB THIRTY
NINE PLEASE APPROACH I SEE NO
ONE APPROACH TO MY PHONE LET'S
OKAY. HERE WE GO. IT'LL BE FAST
TEN MERMAN CALIFORNIA LOW INCOME
CONSUMER COALITION IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. OTHERS IN
SUPPORT. PROVOCA MARKETS
REPRESENTING THE CONSUMER
PROTECTION POLICY CENTER AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO'S LAW
SCHOOL AND SUPPORT THANK YOU-
TRACY ROSENBERG FROM OAKLAND TO
PRIVACY WE ARE SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON SURE
MEMBERS CAME TO ME TREE I'M
GONNA SUPPORT THIS AMENDED
POSITION ON BEHALF OF DAPPER
LAUGHS AND SO RARE WE APPRECIATE
THE WORK WITH THE AUTHOR AND
PRESHEAF THE ANALYSIS AND- WE
HAVE JUST SOME CONCERNS
REGARDING THE APPLICATION OF THE
BILL TO. AN F. T. ISN'T ALL
RIGHTY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL
RIGHT ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT-
ANYONE I'M SORRY OPPOSITION
OPPOSITION TO AB THIRTY NINE
ALRIGHT LET'S GO TO PHONE MY
MODERATOR PLEASE KEEP THOSE.
HERE WE GO I DIDN'T SEE GO AHEAD
GOT NO PROBLEM. LOOP COMMITTEE
STAFF AN HONORABLE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS SANDRA HANN I
RESPECTFULLY RECOMMEND AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION
ORIGINALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY WHO IN ONE SECOND. OH I'M
SORRY I'M SORRY I'M I'M TOO
QUICK. SO GO AHEAD YOUR PRIMARY
GO AHEAD OKAY THANK YOU.
PERSONALLY SINCE ITS
RESURRECTION POST VETO THE BILL
WAS NOT UPDATED TO REFLECT THE
SHIP TO THE THREE BLOCKCHAIN
FROM PROOF OF WORK CONSENSUS
METHOD PROOF OF STAKE. REDUCING
ITS CARBON FOOTPRINT BY NINETY
NINE POINT NINE FIVE PERCENT.
THE TRAIN IS THE SECOND LARGEST
BY MARKET CAPITALIZATION AND IT
AND IT'S RIVER OF PROTOCOLS
APPLICATIONS ARE USED BY THE
LARGEST INSTITUTIONAL CLIENTS
FROM JP MORGAN. TO SOCIETE
GENERAL IBM YOU Y. THE EUROPEAN
UNION. THE NORWEGIAN C. B. T. C.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE AYE
PLATFORM. FAIR TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA NON CALIFORNIANS
STICKERS AND USERS FROM
INTERACTING WITH THE ETHEREUM
BLOCKCHAIN MAY CAUSE FURTHER
LOSS OF DEVELOPER JOBS FROM
CALIFORNIA AND IT BECAUSE
INVESTMENT CAPITAL TO SEEK MORE
RATIONAL. BETTER INFORMED
JURISDICTIONS. FOR THE ARE
STATES. TARGETS MAY BE MORE
DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH IF WE
VEER AWAY FROM THE EUROPEAN
UNION'S EFFORTS AND DIGITAL
ACID. AND RENEWABLE ENERGY
TOKENIZATION AND DATA FOR
VERIFIABILITY ENDEAVORS. FROM
THE MEDIA LEGISLATION TO THEIR
AGRICULTURAL AND INVESTMENT
REPORTING SUSTAINABILITY
PROGRAMS. NEXT I DO NOT
UNDERSTAND THE PRESENCE OF THE
STABLECOIN PROVISIONS OF THIS
BILL IT IS WHOLLY APART FROM THE
ISSUE OF BUSINESS LICENSE FOR.
WELL THE EARLIER IMPLEMENTATION
DATE IS CONCERNING IT IS ALSO AT
ODDS WITH REALITY. BY SUGGESTING
THAT IN A HUNDRED SEVENTY FOUR
DAYS ALL STABLE COINS USING
CALIFORNIA MUST BE ISSUED BY
BANKS. WHICH OTHER THAN JPMORGAN
HAVE SHOWN LITTLE INTEREST HAVE
NOT BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE
FEDERAL RESERVE. ON THIS MATTER
AND ARE NOT GENERALLY STRUCTURED
HAVE THE COUPLE RESERVES
REQUIRED BY THE AUTHORS PRESENT
FRAMEWORK. LASTLY I BELIEVE THE
STABLECOIN MODEL IS HOSTILE TO
INNOVATION AND INFERIOR TO
ALREADY PASSED LAWS IN BOTH THE
EUROPEAN UNION. AND THE UNITED
KINGDOM WHICH MAY CAUSE FURTHER
INVESTOR FLIGHT FROM CALIFORNIA
IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE DE
DOLLARIZATION OF THE WORLD
ECONOMY. FRANKLY I THINK THESE
CONSEQUENCES ARE WELL ABOVE MR
GRAYSON'S CURRENT OR FUTURE PAY
GRADES. FOR THOSE REASONS AS
WELL AS ALL RIGHT WE'RE GONNA
CUT YOU OFF THERE SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT AND- THANK
YOU BOTH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION. JAMIE MINOR ON
BEHALF OF THE BLOCKCHAIN ABSSSI
COALITION WITH A SOME REMAINING
CONCERNS- REALLY APPRECIATE THE
DIRECTIVE OF THE BILL IN SUPPORT
LICENSURE GENERALLY- JUST ONE
THAT YOU KNOW CONTINUE WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR ON. FIRST THE
STABLECOIN PROVISION- INSURING
THERE'S AN EXEMPTION PROCESS IN
ADDITION TO JUST THE PORTABILITY
OF THE LICENSE AND SOME OF THAT-
MARKET ACTORS THAT WOULD BE TO
APPLY FOR IT JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE IT'S- IMPLEMENTABLE BY. THE
FBI THANK YOU READY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OTHERS IN OPPOSITION
AB THIRTY NINE NOW WILL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES. WATER PLEASE
KEEP THOSE IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION AB THIRTY NINE. OF
COURSE PLATED EVACUATION BEGIN
TO WORK OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE. THE NEW ZERO. WE DO
HAVE A FEW THAT HAVE JUST QUEUED
UP FOR MELODIC OF THE LINE
NUMBER.
I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAY MY
POSITION TO BE HAPPY WITH THE
FACT THAT THE PEOPLE TO IF. I'M
SORRY TO HAVE A CALLERS ON THE
LINE. NONE OTHER THAN JUST TO
THAT THE ONLY THEIR LINE NUMBER
BUT MY AT THE SINCE I HAVEN'T
TECHNICAL ISSUES. ALL RIGHT.
WHAT WILL COME BACK TO THE PHONE
LINES IN A SECOND LET ME JUST
TURN TO- COMMITTEE MEMBERS SEE
IF THERE'S A QUESTION THAT WILL
GO BACK TO THE PHONE LINE.
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS
SEEING NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT
LET'S GO BACK TO THE PHONE LINE
.
ALL RIGHT MODERATE IN THEM I DO
APOLOGIZE IF I CAN- DO THEY ARE
JUST IN THE LINES NOW DO
APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. OKAY
WELL I UNDERSTAND AND WE HAVE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY HERE AND
WE HAVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER. OF THE
SEATTLE HERE THE INTEREST IN
THAT- THERE'S BEEN A
CONVERSATION ASSEMBLY MEMBER
SHOBHA WAS GOING TO GO NEXT WELL
. YOU STANDING IN THE DOCK. OKAY
. ALL RIGHT MODERATOR WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON IT. IT IS THEY'VE
BEEN CONNECTED. YES THEY HAVE
BEEN GIVEN A LINE NUMBER TWO
FALL AS THE DELAY WILL BE GOING
TO FIND THREE FORTY TWO ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU. IT'S THREE
FORTY LEGALIZED UP LEGAL AT. ALL
RIGHT MODERATE LET'S GO THIS
CALL. KNATCHBULL GOING TO LINE
THREE TWENTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. GOOD AFTERNOON CARE AND
MEMBERS ROBERT WILSON CALIFORNIA
CREDIT UNION LEAGUE IN SUPPORT
OF AB THIRTY NOT THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT MODERATE
AND OTHER CALLERS. THEY'RE NOT
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THANK YOU AT
THE TIME OKAY LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IS THERE
MOTION SIR MAN MOWS THE BILL ALL
RIGHT. SO GRAYSON WAS LIKE CLOSE
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL ALL RIGHT
MA'AM SECTOR MEMBERSHIP COUNCIL
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL THIS IS AB
THIRTY NINE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
GRAYSON THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AMBERG
HI I'M BURKE AYE WILK HI WILK
AYE ALLEN. ASHBY S. B. I.
CABALLERO. RUSSELL THE RUSSELL I
LAYERED LAYER BY MEN. A NICE NEW
LOW. STERN WIENER. YOU HAVE SIX
TO ZERO SO FAR MEMBERS MISSING
SIX ZERO- WILL PUT THEM ON CALL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT
NEXT. FILE NUMBER THIRTY NINE AB
THIRTEEN FIFTY NINE BY SOME OF
OUR SHOVEL. THANK YOU SO MUCH I
APPRECIATE YOU ACCOMMODATING US-
WE HAVE A NURSE WHO'S GOT A RUSH
TO FLIGHT SO I'M GOING TO BE
SUPER BRIEF- MISTER CHAIR AND
SENATORS GRATEFUL TO PRESENT AB
THIRTEEN FOUR FIFTY NINE. THIS
WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH CARE
WORKERS WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL
PROTECTED SIX DAYS. TO THE
ALREADY THREE EITHER IN CURRENT
STATE LAW- TO HEALTHCARE WORKERS
NURSES ALONG WITH THE ABILITY TO
DEFEND THEMSELVES WITH CIVIL
ACTION LAWSUITS. THIS WILL GIVE
HEALTHCARE WORKERS APPROVED THE
APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO
RECUPERATE WHEN ILL YOU KNOW
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVEN'T FAR TOO
MANY STORIES OF NURSES WHO-
NURSES BECAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH
NURSES I KNOW THE STORIES MUCH
MORE. WHO YOU KNOW EVEN DURING
THE PANDEMIC AND SINCE THE
PANDEMIC WHEN CO BID STILL
EXISTS THEY HAVE BEEN FORCED TO
COME BACK TO WORK OR FACE
DISCIPLINE- OR EVEN. SUSPENSION
AND FIRING SO WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT
BRINGING ILLNESS INTO HOSPITALS
WHERE PEOPLE HAVE COMPROMISED
IMMUNE SYSTEMS AND THIS IS A WAY
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE-
PROTECTING AND CREATING. SAFE
PATIENT CARE AS WELL AS
PROTECTING NURSES AND HEALTHCARE
WORKERS WHO ARE DOING THE
IMPORTANT WORK- AND WITH THAT
OLD TURN IT OVER TO. ONE OF OUR
WITNESSES WHO IS- HONEY HOUSE
INTO A CENTER. LINKA ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU FLOOR'S YOURS GOOD
AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU
TODAY MY NAME IS HOUSING THE
LINKA. I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF
SEIU ONE TO ONE ARE AND IT HAD
BEEN A LABOR AND DELIVERY NURSE
HOLLYWOOD PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL.
I AM THE AND ARE IN OF THIRTY
THREE YEARS I'M HERE TODAY ON
BEHALF OF ALL MY BROTHERS AND
SISTERS AND THE HEALTH CARE
INDUSTRY BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR
PATIENTS. BUT AFTER WORKING
UNDER THE STRAIN OF THE PANDEMIC
AND YEARS OF CHRONIC AND SAVE
STAFF IN OUR HOSPITALS WE ARE
TIRED THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SCARS
FROM MY COLLEAGUES. AND I THAT
WE HAVE ALL SUFFERED ON THE
FRONT LINES WILL NOT HEAL FOR
MANY YEARS. AND THAT'S WITH PTSD
. WE KNOW THAT POSTTRAUMATIC
STRESS CAN OCCUR- SUDDENLY
MONSTER YOU AFTER STRESS.
INCIDENTS THAT CREATE AT
HOSPITALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
BLEEDING NURSES I FEAR WHAT WILL
HAPPEN WHEN THEY COULD NOT BE
REPLACED WHEN THERE'S SIMPLY NO
ONE TO CARE FOR PATIENTS. MY
HOSPITAL NURSES ARE AGGRESSIVELY
QUESTIONED WHEN THEY CALL OFF
OFTENTIMES THEY'RE TOO AFRAID TO
CALL UP. THE PANDEMIC IS USED AS
A AS A- AS AN INSTRUMENT OF THE
WERE TOLD. WERE WORKING UNDER
COVERED RATIOS EVEN THOUGH THE
STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED
OFFICIALLY OVER. THE SITUATION
THAT IS REPEATING ITSELF EVERY
DAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY MAKING
NURSES AND OTHER CRITICAL HEALTH
CARE JOBS. IMPOSSIBLE WE'RE
ACTIVELY SHUTTING DOWN A
PATHWAY. TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
IT'S A SAD FACT THAT MANY
EMPLOYERS HAVE POLICIES THAT
DISCIPLINE AND SOMETIMES EVEN
TERMINATE HEALTH CARE WORKERS
FOR TRYING TO TAKE OUR ACCRUED
SICK LEAVE. SO THAT WE CAN
PROTECT OUR PATIENTS. I
CONTRACTED COVERED WHILE WORKING
ON MY UNIT WHEN I CALLED IN SICK
I WAS TOLD I DIDN'T SOUND THAT
BAD. I WAS COUGHING VERY
PRODUCTIVELY. AND URGE TO RETURN
MANAGEMENT SAID THERE WAS NO WAY
TO DETERMINE THAT I GOT SICK IN
THE HOSPITAL. THIS WAS AFTER AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT PUT THE
BURDEN OF PROOF ON THE HOSPITAL
WAS ALREADY IN PLACE. I WORK IN
LABOR AND DELIVERY I'M UP CLOSE
AND PERSONAL WITH UNMASKED
PATIENTS. NO ONE WHO WORKS
DIRECTLY IN PATIENT CARE SHOULD
HAVE TO COME TO WORK WHEN
THEY'RE SICK ESPECIALLY DURING A
PANDEMIC OR EVEN AFTER IT WE ARE
STILL CONTRACTING CORBETT. WE
WANT TO CARE FOR PATIENTS NOT
BECOME VECTORS OF THE CONTAGIOUS
DISEASE THAT MIGHT KILL THEM. WE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE SICK
LEAVES WHEN WE NEED TO THE
EMPLOYER SHOULD BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY DON'T LET
US. ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US WHO
TRULY CARE FOR PATIENTS. I'M
ASKING YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF
AB THIRTEEN FIFTY NINE TODAY. I
ASK YOU TO VOTE I AB THIRTEEN
FIFTY NINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SO MUCH ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. MALYSHEV HALF
AS YOU CALIFORNIA THAT PROUD
SPONSOR OF THE BILL- I'LL JUST
KEEP IT VERY BRIEF FOR THAT
COMMITTEE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT
TO DO TODAY- WE LOOK FOR TO
CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
HOSPITAL. ASSOCIATION WITH
OPPOSITION- THOSE CONVERSATIONS
AMONG PRODUCTIVE. I WILL SAY YOU
KNOW FOR US NURSES OR IN OTHER
HEALTH CARE WORKERS REALLY PUT
ON THAT POSITION WHERE THEY'RE
GOING TO CALL IN SICK. AND RISK
GETTING DISCIPLINE OR THEY'RE
GONNA PUT THEIR LICENSE AND
THEIR LIVELIHOOD A LOT. ON THE
LINE AND WE THINK THAT THIS
BILL. STRIKES AN APPROPRIATE
BALANCE BUT- APPRECIATE
EVERYONE- YOUR SUPPORT
APPRECIATE THAT COMMITTEE STOP
WORKING WITH US AS WELL AND
AUTHOR CARRYING THE BILL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT OTHERS
SUPPORT AB THIRTEEN FIFTY NINE
PLEASE APPROACH. AFTERNOON
SNICKERS OF THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION AND ON BEHALF OF THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY TO SOMEPLACE AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. HELLO GARTENBERG ASK
YOU CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU OTHER THAN SPORTS SAY NO ONE
ELSE PUTS THE MICHAELIS TO THE
OPPOSITION OF YOUR OPPOSITION AB
THIRTEEN FIFTY NINE PLEASE
APPROACH MIGHT FALL. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE RUBBER TO GO HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION- I'LL BE
BRIEF- AS THE SPONSORS MENTIONED
WE HAVE BEEN- WORKING IN. GOOD
FAITH- WITH BOTH THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSORS TO TRY TO FIND- THE
RIGHT MIDDLE GROUND WE REMAIN
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED- THERE ARE SOME ISSUES-
TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT WE WOULD
LIKE TO. ADDRESS FOR EXAMPLE-
WHAT WE DO WITH THE CBA. HOW DO
WE CORRECTLY ACCRUE TIME- AND
THEN SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT I
THINK- THROUGH CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS I THINK WE CAN-
HOPEFULLY FIND SOME MIDDLE
GROUND- AND- GET TO A PLACE OF.
A NEUTRALITY. WE ARE NOT THERE
YET BUT WE ARE HOPEFUL- AND LOOK
FORWARD TO THOSE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT.
OTHERS OPPOSED AB THIRTEEN FIFTY
NINE PLEASE PUSH MIKE FUNDS
SINGH KNOWN APPROACH MY PHONE
THE STERN THE FALLEN SEMATARY
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE SERVERS
SPORT. IN OPPOSED AB THIRTEEN
FIFTY NINE. OF COURSE LASERJET
WHICH- SUPPORT OPPOSITION.
THAT'S ONE. ZERO ONE IT'S TIME.
IT IS CURRENTLY KNOWN KEEPING UP
TO TEMPERATURE. I THANK YOU ALL
RIGHT LET'S BRING BACK THE
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AS THEIR MOTION. SENATOR
SENATOR ALSO MOST THE BILL ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU WOULD LIKE
CLOSE. I'M JUST VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE- YOU HERE IN THIS
ISSUE IT'S YOU KNOW PERSONALLY
REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME I WORK
WITH NURSES FOR THIRTEEN YEARS
AND I'VE HEARD- REALLY
UNFORTUNATE STORIES ABOUT HOW
NURSES ARE FACED WITH EITHER.
PUTTING THEIR JOB ON THE LINE
ARE PUTTING PATIENTS HEALTH ON
THE LINE WE THINK THAT THAT
SHOULDN'T BE A CHOICE THEY HAVE
TO MAKE AN RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE ALREADY THANK YOU MA'AM
SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL- THE
SENATE ADDRESS SOME OF THE BILL
. FILE ITEM NUMBER THIRTY NINE
AB THIRTEEN FIFTY NINE THE
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS NUMBER HI. AMBER
I WILK. ALLEN ASHLEY. SB I.
CABALLERO. RUSSELL RUSSELL I
LAYERED. WEIRD I AM MEN. MEN I
ANY LOW. STERN WIENER. FIVE TWO
ZERO FIVE ZERO PUT THAT ON CALL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HANEY IS HERE- HIS TWO
BILLS I AM NINETEEN AND I'M
TWENTY AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX IS
THE FIRST UP AND THEN FOLLOWED
BY AB THIRTEEN FIFTY SIX. THE
RAINY CLOSURES THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN WAS GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL
AGAIN I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD
WORK AND LONG DAY TODAY I WANT
TO START BY. ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEES AMENDMENT WHICH
CLARIFIES THAT THE BOARD OF
PHARMACY MAY PUBLISHED DE
IDENTIFIED DATA AND A MEDICATION
ERROR REPORTS AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US ON
THAT PIECE. CHAIN PHARMACIES AND
THE PHARMACISTS WHO WORK FOR
THEM ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN
DELIVERING CARE TO CALIFORNIANS.
HOWEVER ALARMING MEDICATION
ERRORS IN THIS SETTING HAVE
RECENTLY BEEN MADE PUBLIC
INCLUDING ERRORS THAT HAVE LED
TO HOSPITALIZATION OR DEATH.
THERE ARE MANY CONDITIONS IN A
PHARMACY THAT CAN LEAD TO
MEDICATION ERRORS SOME OF THESE
INCLUDE INSUFFICIENT STAFFING
AND SANITARY CONDITIONS ARE AN
UNSAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT. AND
WHAT SIGNIFICANT TIME IN
RESEARCH HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO
EVALUATING. MEDICATION ERRORS
ARE OCCURRING IN INPATIENT
SETTINGS LIKE HOSPITALS SIMILAR
RESEARCH INFORMATION DOES NOT
EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY PHARMACY
SETTING. FIRSTLY THERE IS NO
REQUIREMENT UNDER CURRENT LAW
FOR PHARMACIES TO TRACK
MEDICATION ERRORS OR CONSIDER
THE PHARMACY WORKING CONDITIONS
THAT LEAD TO THEM. THERE FOR
MEDICATION ERRORS ARE WIDELY
UNDER REPORTED UNKNOWN BY HAVING
DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON PATIENTS.
AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX FOUR
ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF
MEDICATION ERRORS AND ENSURE OUR
COMMUNITY CHAIN PHARMACISTS ARE
PROVIDING THEIR PATIENTS WITH
THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE. IT DOES
SOBRE ACQUIRING KEY CHAIN
PHARMACIES REPORT MEDICATION
ERRORS IT ALSO REQUIRES THESE
PHARMACIES TO MAINTAIN ADEQUATE
STAFFING. AND PROVIDES A CLEAR
PATHWAY TO CLOSE THE PHARMACY IF
THERE IS A SERIOUS THREAT TO
PATIENTS ARE WORKERS. I WANT TO
KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE
OPPOSITION TO ADDRESS CONCERNS.
ON THE MEDICATION ERROR
REPORTING PROCESS SEAT AND THE
STAFFING FOR WE'VE TAKEN MANY
AMENDMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF.
THE NUMBER OF COMMITTEES THAT
THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH AND TAKING
OUT PARTS OF THE BILL AND-
REFINED OTHERS AND I THINK WE
HAVE GOTTEN VERY CLOSE ON. MOST
ISSUES ARE THIS BILL HAS THE
SUPPORT OF THE BOARD OF
PHARMACY. AND THE PHARMACIST
ASSOCIATION ARE THE ARE FOLKS
WHO ARE. WITH SURE THIS FOR. IS
SAFE FOR BOTH THE PEOPLE WHO
PROVIDE THIS CARE AND FOR- THE
PATIENCE HERE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT TODAY IS PRESENT- FROM
THAT CALIFORNIA STATE BOARD OF
PHARMACY. AND CRISTINA MARTINEZ
A PHARMACY TECHNICIAN WITH THE
RALPHS. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIRPERSON ARM NUMBER
THANKS YOU'RE WELCOME MEMBERS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
BOARD OF PHARMACY I THINK
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY FOR
AUTHORING THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC
HEALTH MEASURE AND A COMMITTEE
AND ITS STAFF FOR ITS
CONSIDERATION OF THIS MEASURE
TODAY. MY NAME IS ON THE
PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. BY
STATUTE THE BOARD IS A CONSUMER
PROTECTION AGENCY CHARGED WITH
REGULATING THE PRACTICE OF
PHARMACY. EXPLICITLY STATED IN
PHARMACY LAW WHENEVER THE
PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC. IS
INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER
INTERESANTE PROMOTED THE
PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC SHALL
BE PARAMOUNT. CONSISTENT WITH
THIS LEGISLATIVE MANDATE THE
BOARD IS SPONSORING AB TWELVE
EIGHTY SIX ONE OF THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT PATIENT SAFETY
MEASURES EVER SPONSORED BY THE
BOARD. AS PART OF THE BOARD
SUNSET REVIEW THE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEES ASKED THE BOARD IF
THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
STATUTORY REVISION. THAT WOULD
POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE FREQUENCY
OF MEDICATION ERRORS RESULTING
IN PATIENT HARM. IN THE BOARD'S
RESPONSE TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE. THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT ISSUE OF THE MEDICATION
ERRORS MUST BE ADDRESSED. THE
IMPROVE PATIENT HEALTH AND
OUTCOMES. THE BOARD NOTED AT THE
TIME CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE
GIVEN TO DETERMINE IF THE BOARD
OR ANOTHER ENTITY SHOULD RECEIVE
MEDICATION ERROR REPORTS. THE
BOARD ALSO COMMITTED TO
CONDUCTING A SURVEY TO DETERMINE
IF WORKING CONDITIONS ARE
CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. IN
TESTIFYING BEFORE YOU TODAY
BECAUSE THE BOARD DEDICATED
SIGNIFICANT TIME TO EVALUATE
THIS ISSUE AND HAS IDENTIFIED.
NECESSARY CHANGES IN PHARMACY
LAW TO PROTECT CONSUMERS.
ASSEMBLY BILL TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
INCORPORATES THE FINDINGS OF A
YEAR LONG EFFORT LEARNING FROM
EXPERTS. AND EVALUATING ACTIONS
TAKEN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
THE MEASURE INCLUDES A
REQUIREMENT TO REPORT MEDICATION
ERRORS AN ENTITY APPROVED BY THE
BOARD. SUCH REPORTING WILL
IMPROVE MEDICATION SAFETY BY
FACILITATING FAIR LEARNING
INTENSIFYING QUALITY IMPROVEMENT
OPPORTUNITIES AND WILL INFORM
FUTURE POLICY ALL TO THE BENEFIT
OF PROTECTING THE PATIENTS. AS
TIME IS LIMITED I'LL FINISH MY
COMMENTS BY NOTING THAT GOOD
PUBLIC POLICY AND THE BOARD'S
CONSUMER PROTECTION MANDATE
DEMAND THAT THE POOR TAKE ACTION
TO PREVENT FUTURE MET. AND I YOU
FOR YOUR TIME YOUR CONSIDERATION
OF AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX AND YOUR
ASSISTANCE HELPING THE POOR
PROTECT CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS AND
PATIENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OTHERS IN SUPPORT AB. TWELVE
EIGHTY SIX. IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT
PLEASE APPROACH MICROPHONE. OF
THOSE OPPOSED ALL RIGHT. HI GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CHRISTY
MARTINEZ AND I'VE BEEN A
PHARMACY TECHNICIAN AT RALPHS.
AND PERCENT OVER THE PAST TWELVE
YEARS. OF PHARMACY TECHNICIANS
ASSIST AND PHARMACIST AND TAKING
PRESCRIPTION SPILLING
MEDICATIONS. ANSWERING CALLS AND
MANAGING THE PICK UP WINDOW. I'M
HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS
NO QUESTION THAT PATIENT SAFETY
HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY
COMPROMISED DUE TO THE
OVERWHELMING WORK LOAD AND
UNDERSTAFFING OF PHARMACY
TECHNICIANS. NOW THE PANDEMIC
MADE IS THAT A BAD SITUATION
EVEN WORSE. WINTER GRUELING
TWELVE HOUR SHIFTS WITH NO
ADEQUATE BREAKS. WE WERE COSTLY
OUT NUMBERED BY PATIENTS WHICH
RESULTED IN LONG WAIT TIMES. AND
BECAUSE OF THIS WE UNDER GREUBEL
ABUSE FROM CUSTOMERS. LASHING
OUT IN FRUSTRATION BECAUSE WE
LACK SUFFICIENT STAFF TO MEET
THEIR NEEDS. FIRST THE STAFF HAD
TO JUGGLE ADMINISTERING VACCINES
THANK PROVIDING CONSULTATIONS
LEADING TO PATIENTS. NOT
RECEIVING THE NECESSARY
COUNSELING WHICH THEY DESERVE.
WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO
CONFUSION MEDICATION
INTERACTIONS IN ERRORS THAT
COULD HARM PATIENTS.
CONSEQUENTLY OUR FOCUS ON
PATIENT CARE AND SAFETY WAS
SEVERELY STRAINED. CAUSING THIS
IMMENSE STRESS AND ANXIETY
BECAUSE IT'S ALL OF OUR WORST
NIGHTMARE. BECAUSE OF PATIENT
HARM. THROUGH A MEDICATION ERROR
. AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX HOWEVER
OFFERS A SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE.
THE BILL GRANTS THE PHARMACIST
IN CHARGE MORE TIME TO ME TO
ADDRESS UNSAFE WORKING
CONDITIONS AND GIVES A BOARD OF
PHARMACY THE ABILITY. TO MORE
QUICKLY INTERVENE WITH THEIR
WITH THE RISK OF DEATH ILLNESS
IRREPARABLE HARM TO PATIENTS
ADDITIONALLY IT SEEKS TO EXPAND
ROLES OF PHARMACY TECHNICIANS
ENABLING INDIVIDUALS LIKE
MYSELF. TO ADMINISTER
EPINEPHRINE AND VACCINES
COLLECTS SPECIMENS FOR SPECIFIC
YES HI THE PRESCRIPTION
TRANSFERS EXCEPT CLARIFICATIONS
UNDER SPECIFIED CONDITIONS WHILE
STILL MAINTAINING SUFFICIENT
STAFFING IN THE PHARMACY. BY
IMPLEMENTING THESE CHANGES
PHARMACY PHARMACIST WILL BE ABLE
TO PRIORITIZE AND ENHANCE
PATIENT CARE. WE NEED OUR
ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HELP ENSURE
THAT THE NECESSARY MEASURES ARE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE CAN WRAP
IT UP THANK YOU HI STANDWITHUS
RETAIL PHARMACIST AND SUPPORT AB
TWELVE EIGHTY SIX THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME CONSIDERATION. THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT. THOSE IN SUPPORT
PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION POSITION LOW NAY
CREWS OF THE CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. THAT'S A
GREAT WALL UFCW WESTERN STATE
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. CORRECT MARKETS
REPRESENTING THE CONSUMER
PROTECTION POLICY CENTER USD
SCHOOL OF LAW. THANK YOU OTHERS
IN SUPPORT SINGH KNOWN AS
PROJECT MICHAELIS THEY'LL TURN
THE OPPOSITION OF YOUR OPPOSED
AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX PLEASE
APPROACH. GOOD AFTERNOON MR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHEN THEY CALL
HER GOAL ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY
PHARMACY COALITION-
UNFORTUNATELY THE COALITION
REMAINS OPPOSED TO AB TWELVE
EIGHTY SIX DUE TO THE
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL WILL HAVE
ON ACCESS THESE ACCESS TO
PHARMACY SERVICES. THAT WE DO
GREATLY APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS THE AUTHOR HAS TAKEN
THAT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WE
HAVE RELATED TO PHARMACY
CLOSURES AND WE THANK THE AUTHOR
HIS STAFF AND THE SPONSORS ON.
AND CONTINUE TO TALK TO US ABOUT
OUR REMAINING CONCERNS WITH THE
BILL. OUR CONCERNS INCLUDE THREE
MAIN. ISSUES FIRST THE BILL
PROPOSES INSTITUTE A RIGID
STAFFING FOR WITHOUT ANY
CONSIDERATION OF PHARMACIES.
THAT MIGHT BE OPEN LATE SUCH AS
TWENTY FOUR HOUR PHARMACY
PHARMACIES- ARE ONLY SERVE A
LIMITED NUMBER OF PATIENTS AND
WE HAVE ASKED FOR NINE MINUTES
TO ADDRESS THESE TYPES OF.
SITUATIONS SECOND WHILE THE
PHARMACY COALITION SUPPORTS THE
BOARD'S EFFORTS TO TRACK
MEDICATION ERRORS WE LIKE TO
WORK WITH AUTHORED. TO
STREAMLINE REPORTING AND ENSURE
THAT THE ORGANIZATION THAT
COLLECTS THE MEDICATION ERROR
INFORMATION FROM PHARMACIES. IS
AN EXPERT IN PHARMACY SERVICES
AND IN INTERPRETING THE DATA
PROVIDED. A MOST LARGE
PHARMACIES ACTUALLY ALREADY
REPORT MEDICATION ERRORS TO
PATIENT SAFETY ORGANIZATIONS
THIS IS BEEN A PROVEN SUCCESSFUL
WAY TO REDUCE. AND MITIGATE
MEDICATION ERRORS SO WE JUST
WANNA. MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS
NOT DUPLICATION AND THAT. M.
LAST NIGHT THINK. EQUALLY AS AN-
WELL WE RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE
THE CONCERNS RAISED BY
PROPONENTS RELATED TO WORKFORCE
ISSUES. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
TO POINT OUT THE CALIFORNIA HAS
THE MOST RESTRICTIVE PHARMACY
THE PHARMACIST TECHNICIAN RATIO
IN THE COUNTRY. M. WE HAVE A ONE
TO ONE RATIO MEANING THAT A
PHARMACIST CAN ONLY SUPERVISE
ONE TECHNICIAN. HALF THE STATES
IN THE COUNTRY HAVE NO RATIO AT
ALL. THE OTHERS EITHER HAVE A
ONE TO THREE OR ONE TO FOUR
RATIO AND SO WE THINK THAT IT IS
ESSENTIAL THAT ANY SOLUTIONS
THAT RISK CLOSURES OF
PHARMACIES. AND PLACED PATIENT
ACCESS TO CARE RISKS THAT SHOULD
FIRST ADDRESS. THOSE UNREALISTIC
STAFFING CONSTRAINTS ON
PHARMACIES IN OUR STATE WHILE A
B. TWENTY SIX DOES ALLOW FOR A
SECOND TECHNICIAN TO ADMINISTER.
VACCINATIONS AND DO SOME OTHER
DUTIES. AND IT TIES THE HANDS OF
THIS EXTRA TECHNICIAN TO ONLY
THOSE DUTIES M. NOT ALLOWING
THEM TO PERFORM THE OTHER DUTIES
THAT TECHNICIANS CAN CURRENTLY
PROVIDE. SO IF THERE IS EVEN
JUST A SLIGHT EXPANSION OF THE
RATIO TO ONE TO TWO- WE THINK
THAT THAT WOULD ADDRESS MANY OF
THE ISSUES THAT THE PROPONENTS
ARE SEEKING TO ADDRESS AT THIS
BILL SO I CAN. DEFINITELY
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S AND WORK
WITH US AND I HOPE WE CAN
CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION BUT
UNFORTUNATELY WE REMAIN OPPOSED
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OTHERS OPPOSED TO AB TWELVE
EIGHTY SIX SEEING NO ONE ELSE
PROVIDE PHONE MR IN THE FALL AS
MODERATOR. PLEASE Q. OF THOSE IN
SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION TO A.
B. TWELVE EIGHT. SIX THANK YOU.
WHICH IS. PORK OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE. THERE. NINE
THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING HEARING
UP THIS TIME BUT YOUR JACK. ALL
RIGHT LET'S BRING BACK COMMITTEE
. YES SB. YEAH THE SPELLING DEJA
VU. I THINK I WAS EVEN SITTING
HERE. AS WE VOTED ON THIS IN BMP
AND- IS THE AUTHOR KNOWS THIS I.
WILL SUPPORT IT HERE JUST LIKE I
DID THERE BUT- I AM LOOKING FOR
A LITTLE HELP ON SOME OF THESE
TOPICS FROM THE PHARMACY
TECHNICIANS WORRIED ABOUT THE
IMPACTS ON- THAT RATIO. AND
REALLY JUST MAYBE EVEN. I
THOUGHT YOU WHITTLE THAT DOWN
SOME EVEN SINCE BEING P. I THINK
BY. THE SORT OF THE IDEA OF WHAT
THE SECOND PERSON CAN DO THAT'S
THERE WHETHER THEY CAN ONLY
VACCINATIONS OR IF THEY CAN HELP
WITH OTHER THINGS. I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE IN THE-
PHARMACIES THAT ARE IN. CITIES
LIKE MINE TOO SO. I PLAN ON
VOTING FOR TODAY BUT I WANT TO
KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT ISSUE
BEFORE IT GETS TO THE FLOOR AND
HOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE
GOING. ABSOLUTELY AND A WEEK WE
HAD THIS. CONVERSATION BEFORE AS
WELL AND WE'RE CONTINUING THOSE
WE DID WE DID I CLARIFY AND
DEFINE A BIT MORE AN IMMENSE. I
KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING
TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER THERE ARE
SOME. TYPES OF PHARMACIES THAT
REALLY HAVE A MUCH LOWER VOLUME
ARE THERE IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT
MIGHT BE EXEMPTED FROM THIS. WE
REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE IS A FLOOR WHERE IF YOU
HAVE. ONE PHARMACIST THERE YOU
SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE ONE MORE
PERSON WHO'S- DEDICATED ENTIRELY
TO THE FUNCTIONS OF THE PHARMACY
SOMETIMES WHAT'S HAPPENING ZERO
ONE PHARMACIST. AND ONE CASHIER
OR SOMEBODY WHO'S SORT OF
ASSISTING IN SOME WAYS THAT'S
NOT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
FOR THE PHARMACY. THE RATIO IS
TRICKY BECAUSE THAT'S MORE
RELATED TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT
SORT OF BUILDS OUT. BUT I THINK
THAT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT.
IF THERE'S A SECOND TECHNI TECH
THERE. WHAT WHAT THAT TECH WILL
BE ABLE TO. TO DO AND HOW TO
DEFINE I THE ADDITIONAL BECAUSE
ESSENTIALLY WE ARE EXPANDING AS
IT RELATES TO THE FLOOR WHO ELSE
CAN BE THERE WITH THAT ONE
PHARMACIST. AND SO IT'S THE TO
TAX ONE TACK WHO'S SUPPORTING
THE PHARMACIST ENTIRELY ONE
WHO'S DOING SOME SOME OF THOSE
ANCILLARY FUNCTIONS LIKE. FLU
SHOTS OR VACCINES OF THOSE KIND
OF THINGS. SO WE ARE IN
CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO DEFINE
REALLY WATER. THAT THE SET OF
THINGS THAT THAT IN THE ALL
WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. JUST WHEN
WE'RE TALKING THAT FOR. AT THE
VERY LEAST THERE SHOULD BE A
PHARMACIST A PHARMACY TECH
SOLELY DEVOTED AND THEN. IN SOME
CASES SOME MONEY TO ANCILLARY
SERVICE YEAH THAT'S ON LIKE
YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR WAY AND
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING
ABOUT SORT OF FREEING UP THAT
SECOND. CHECK TO BE ABLE TO DO
MORE THAN JUST. TECHNICIAN
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR
WAY TO IT AND SAW SUPPORT AGAIN
HERE DO I PRE. APPRECIATE HOW
MUCH EFFORT YOU PUT INTO. SINCE
LAST TIME I SENIOR. WE ALL
RIGHT. OFF AND- IS WORKING
TOGETHER SIGNED THE OPPOSITION
HAS BEEN VERY COLLABORATIVE
AROUND AS WELL AND I THINK WE
HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.
THANK YOU OTHER QUESTIONS. THING
NINE IS OUR MOTION. RACEMOSE THE
BILL WAS LIKE CLOSE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK DR. THANK YOU
MA'AM SIX THREE IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER NINETEEN AB TWELVE EIGHTY
SIX THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. NUMBER
HI. MARK I WILL GO. LOOK NO
ALLEN. SB S. B. I. CABALLERO.
RUSSELL RUSSELL I. LAYERED I.
MILLION MEN I KNEW LOW. STERN
WIENER. FIVE TWO ONE FIVE THE
ONE THAT BILLS ON CALL AND IT'S
ONLY THREE. FORTY PM. SO ALL
RIGHT. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS- I'M
PRESENTING EIGHTY THIRTEEN FIFTY
SIX WHICH IS THE PROTECT. LAID
OFF WORKERS ACT. I WANT TO START
BY THANKING THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
DILIGENT WORK AND ACCEPT. THE
AMENDMENTS. HI THIS BILL IS
ABOUT PROTECTING WORKERS. WHO
HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO LAOS
BECAUSE OF MASS LAYOFFS EVENT
EVENTS THEY WORK AT LARGE
COMPANIES- THEY AND- DOZENS
OFTEN HUNDREDS OF THEIR
COLLEAGUES ARE BEING LAID OFF
THAT GO DUE TO NO FAULT OF THEIR
OWN. DECADES AGO- FEDERALLY AND
IN CALIFORNIA THERE WAS A LAW
CALLED THE WARN ACT WHICH WAS
ESTABLISHED A BIPARTISAN LAW AT
THE TIME I TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT
THESE WORKERS SAID THEY AT LEAST
GOT SOME LEVEL OF NOTE NOTICE
SOME ABILITIES TO TURN
TRANSITION AND TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN
THE PROCESS. HOPEFULLY BE ABLE
TO FIND A JOB THAT ALLOWS THEM
TO STAY IN THE STATE AND
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEIR
FAMILIES. THIS LAW HAS BECOME
ESPECIALLY IN FOCUS RECENTLY AS
WE'VE SEEN COMPANIES THAT HAVE
DONE- HUNDREDS OF LAYOFFS
THOUSANDS OF LAYOFFS IN
CALIFORNIA IN RECENT MONTHS AND
YEARS ARE PARTICULARLY IN THE
TECH SECTOR BUT IN IN MANY OTHER
SECTORS AS WELL IN THAT PROCESS
WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE
LOOPHOLES IN THIS LAWS. AND WAY
TO STRENGTHEN IT TO ENSURE THAT
ALL WORKERS WHO NEED AND DESERVE
THESE TYPES OF PROTECTION ARE
ABLE TO HAVE IT. OUT ONE OF THE
MAIN THINGS THAT THIS BILL WILL
DO IS INCLUDE WORKERS WHO ARE
CONTRACT WORKERS. RIGHT NOW
PEOPLE WHO MAY BE JANITORS THEY
MAY BE CAFETERIA WORKERS OR THEY
ARE ENGINEERS WHO DO THE EXACT
SAME JOB. AS ONE OF THEIR
COLLEAGUES ARE BEING TOLD THAT
THEY HAVE NONE OF THESE
PROTECTIONS AND CAN BE TOLD
WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY
HAVE TO LEAVE AT THE END OF THE
WEEK. WITH NO TIME TO TRANSITION
FOR THEM OR THEIR FAMILIES-
THAT'S WRONG AND WE SHOULD
INCLUDE THEM IN THESE CRITICAL
PROTECTIONS WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT FOLKS HAVE ANOTHER.
TIME UNDER THE BILL AS AMENDED
IT WILL BE SEVENTY FIVE DAYS
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN
INCREASE BUT IT'S A MEANINGFUL
INCREASE AND HOW MUCH NOTICE
PEOPLE GET. ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS
WHO MAY BE HERE ON IMMIGRATION
VISAS SO THAT THEY CAN STAY HERE
AND CONTRIBUTE. CONTINUE TO
CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMY AND
LASTLY KEEP- SHOULD NOT BE FOR.
TO SIGN AWAY. THEIR RIGHTS- JUST
TO RECEIVE THE NOTICE THAT I IS
INSURED UNDER THE WARN ACT WE
CLARIFY THAT THAT'S THE CASE AND
THAT WOULD BE. AGAINST THE LAW-
IF THIS WERE TO PASS THIS IS A
CRITICAL PROTECTION THAT EXIST
FOR CALIFORNIA WORKERS IT'S
CLEARLY STILL NEEDED. AND THIS
WOULD STRENGTHEN IT. I IN WAYS
THAT WOULD PROTECT ALL OF THE
WORKERS WHO DESERVE ITS
PROTECTIONS. HERE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. IS A DAVID
KRAUSE AND FORMER. CONTRACT
WORKER A GOOGLE AND CAITLIN VEGA
FROM THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION. THANK YOU I LIKE TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR YOUR
TIME. MY NAME IS DAVID JONES
KRAUSE AND I'M A MEMBER OF
ALPHABET WORKERS UNIONS HE W. A.
ALFA CALLS THEIR INDIRECT
EMPLOYEES TV SEES WHICH STANDS
FOR TEMP VENDOR CONTRACT. IN
FOUR YEARS AT GOOGLE I HAVE BEEN
A T. V. AND THE C. I. ALONG WITH
THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONTENT
MANAGER TV SEES WAS LAID OFF IN
NOVEMBER WITH HARDLY ANY NOTICE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S CHEAPER FASTER
AND LESS NEWSWORTHY TO GET RID
OF TVC TO MAKE UP THE MAJORITY
OF OFFICE WORKFORCE. LEGISLATION
LIKE AB THIRTEEN FIFTY SIX IS A
SUBSTANTIVE STEP TOWARD
ALLEVIATING THE WORST OUTCOMES
OF THIS EXPLOITATIVE SYSTEM. FOR
WORKERS LIKE MYSELF WITH
VIRTUALLY NO PROTECTIONS DURING
LAYOFFS. HE'S HE'S LIKE ME OFTEN
HAVE LITTLE IN THE WAY OF
BENEFITS FOR LEGAL PROTECTIONS
EVEN WHILE EMPLOYED. WHEN I WAS
A CONTRACTOR I RECEIVE NO HEALTH
CARE NO PTO AND I WAS PAID ON A
SIX WEEK DELAY. STAFFING
AGENCIES AND VENDORS KEEP
CREATING EVER MORE COMPLICATED
EMPLOYMENT STRUCTURES TO HELP
THEM. TO AVOID PROVIDING
BENEFITS FOR COMPLYING WITH LAWS
LIKE THE ONE YOU CONSIDER TODAY.
ROUTING JOB QUALITY AND MAKING
IT DIFFICULT FOR WORKERS LIKE
ME. TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHTS.
AND PROTECTIONS UNDER THE LAW
AND TO A CERTAIN. IN LATE AUGUST
I KNOW TO THAT IN. VENDOR
DELEGATION WAS AMONG THE STATED
GOALS FOR Q. FOUR. AS A CONTRACT
WORKER I FOR THEM IN MY JOB
WOULD BE PASSED OFF TO A LARGER
VENDOR MANAGEMENT FIRM. IN MID
NOVEMBER EXACTLY THAT OCCURRED.
WE WERE LAID OFF EN MASSE OFTEN
DOES LITTLE IS TWO WEEKS NOTICE-
THIS WAS THE PLAN IN AUGUST WHY
WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER TO TELL US.
MANY OF MY COWORKERS ARE PARENTS
THE MANAGER OF HOW TO PROVIDE
FOR THEIR CHILDREN. THEIR H. ONE
B. VISA HOLDERS UP AGAINST THE
CLOCK TO FIND SPONSORSHIP TO
PRESERVE THEIR STATUS.
SOPHISTICATED DISEASE ARE MORE
LIKELY TO BELONG TO ALREADY
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I WANT
TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE TO
CONSIDER ROLES CALIFORNIANS TO
LEAD THE NATION IN PROTECTING
THE MAJORITY OF US WHO LIVE
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. FOR US
ADDITIONAL NOTICE IS OFTEN THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STABILITY AND
PRECARITY. WHETHER THOSE
PAYCHECKS COME FROM ONE JOB OR
SEVERAL EIGHTY THIRTEEN FIFTY
SIX EXTENSIVE VITAL SAFEGUARDS.
ALREADY AFFORDED TO SOME TO
THOSE IN GREATEST NEED. AS LONG
AS EMPLOYERS LIKE A LEGAL
MANDATE TO PROVIDE CONTRACT
WORKERS WITH ADVANCE NOTICE OF
THEIR TERMINATION. BUT DO SO IN
A TIME WHEN IT SERVES THEIR
BOTTOM LINE AND SHAREHOLDERS. NO
MATTER THE OFTEN CATASTROPHIC
IMPACT ON THOSE OF US THAT
LETTING GO. FOR THESE REASONS I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST- I THOUGHT
ON AB THIRTEEN FIFTY SIX. THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR I THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT PLEASE. MISTER CHAN
MEMBERS CAITLIN VEGA FOR THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION. WE
ARE A CO SPONSOR OF THIS BILL.
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES.
WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASED USE OF
CONTRACT WORKERS IN VIRTUALLY
EVERY INDUSTRY. AND AS OUR
AUTHOR MENTIONED DOING WORK FROM
THE JANITORIAL IN THE FOOD
SERVICE. TO THE ENGINEERS TO THE
HIGH TECH WORKERS. I'M DOING THE
SAME WORK AS THE DIRECTOR
PLEASE. ALL THIS BILL DOES IS
EXTEND LAYOFF NOTICE. NOT
BENEFITS. NOT LIABILITY FOR
UNPAID WAGES. JUST A NOTE
ADVANCE NOTICE. THAT THERE IS
GOING TO BE A MASS LAYOFF THAT
THOSE WORKERS ARE IMPACTED BY.
TWO IT IS A VERY SMALL ASK OF
THE IMPACTED EMPLOYERS THAT THEY
LET- CONTRACT WORKERS HAVE THE
SAME ADVANCE NOTICE THAT THEY'RE
PROVIDING TO THEIR EXISTING
EMPLOYEES. BUT IT'S SOMETHING
THAT CAN BE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE
TO THE WORKER A RECENT STUDY ON
HOMELESSNESS BY UCSF. THAT FOUND
THAT ONE OUT OF EVERY FIVE OF
THE HOMELESS- PEOPLE THAT THEY
SPOKE TO. TALKED ABOUT THE LOSS
OF JOB AS THE THING THAT
PRECIPITATED THEIR HOMELESSNESS
LED TO THEM LOSING. THE ABILITY
TO MAINTAIN HOUSING. AN ADVANCE
NOTICE ALLOWS FAMILIES TO PLAN
AHEAD TO FIND OTHER JOBS TO FIND
OTHER LIVING ARRANGEMENTS AND
HOPEFULLY TO SURVIVE THAT
TRANSITION. AND SO WE THINK IT
IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE
CONTRACT WORKERS WHO ARE DOING
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT WORK BE
AFFORDED THAT VERY MEAGER AND
MINOR. THEN IF IT. AND WE HAVE
WORKED HARD TO NEGOTIATE WITH
THE OPPOSITION IN THIS CASE- WE
FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE CONTRACT
WORKERS ARE ENTITLED TO THE SAME
RIGHTS- BUT WE HAVE AGREED TO.
ADD AN HOURS THRESHOLD SO THAT
SOMEONE HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST
WORKED A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
HOURS FOR AN EMPLOYER OFFER A
CONTRACT WORKER TO BE- COVERED
WE HAVE ALSO AGREED AS ARE OTHER
LOOTED TO. TO REDUCE THE ADVANCE
NOTICE FROM NINETY DAYS TO
SEVENTY FIVE DAYS WE APPRECIATE
THE CHAIR IN THE CHAIR STAFF FOR
WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES
WITH US WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
UNREASONABLE HE- WE THINK THAT
THIS BE. NOTICE WILL MAKE A
TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE TO WORKERS
AND THEIR FAMILIES AND WE ASK
FOR YOUR I. THANK YOU OTHERS IN
SUPPORT PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR
NAME. YOUR AFFILIATION AND YOUR
POSITION. VERY CLEAR SHE HARM TO
HAVE THE CALIFORNIANS LIMIT
LAWYERS ASSOCIATION AND UFCW
WESTERN STATES COUNCIL IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON JOSH AT
THE BAY ON BEHALF THE
COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA
DISTRICT NINE IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. CAN REALLY ROSENBERGER WITH
SEIU IN SUPPORT. SMITH ACCORDING
WITH TECH EQUITY COLLABORATIVE
PROUD TO CO SPONSOR THE SPELL.
KAREN SENATORS MICHELLE TRAVEL
FORK WITH THE CALIFORNIA
COMMISSION ON THE STATUS SO MANY
GIRLS IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. NAVNEET PURI ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THE CREWS ON BEHALF OF THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY MUSEUM PLEASE IN SUPPORT
. FILTHIEST ONLY SHALL BE HALF
OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT AND ALSO
ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ANYONE
ELSE'S SUPPORT PLEASE POST MIKE
FROM GIVE US YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION SEEING NO ONE ELSE
PURCHASE MY PHONE IT SEEMS TO BE
KELLY GET A WRIGGLE MY PHONE TO
OPPOSE. AB THIRTEEN FIFTY SIX
MISSKELLEY FORGERS AFTER HE
CONSISTENT MISTER CHAIR- THIS. I
DISAPPEAR SOMETHING EARLIER. YOU
COULD VISIT YOUR LAB TIME- CHRIS
MCKAY THEM AFTER THE HOLLY
CHAMBER OF. IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION- AND IN ORDER TO
FURTHER INGRATIATE MYSELF WITH
YOU IN YOUR COMMITTEE I WANT TO
POINT OUT- OF TWO PLACES IN YOUR
CHIEF COUNSELS EXCELLENT
ANALYSIS OF THE BILL. OF THE
FIRST A SO WE HAVE THREE
REMAINING CONCERNS THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY DOES AS THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER NOTED WE HAVE BEEN IN
DISCUSSIONS- SINCE PROBABLY THE-
SECOND POLICY COMMITTEE HEARING.
IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY THERE ARE
THREE ISSUES AS IDENTIFIED IN
YOUR ANALYSIS I'M A TACKLE TO
OF- AND MISS JOHNSON GOING TO
TACKLE THE THIRD. THE FIRST IS
REGARDING THE NOTICE PERIOD
OBVIOUSLY THE AUTHOR AND
PROPONENTS HAD- REQUESTED A 50%
INCREASE WE HAD SUGGESTED. THE
ALTERNATIVE THAT IS- NOW GOING
INTO THE BILL. AS PART OF A
COMPREHENSIVE SET OF AMENDMENTS
INCLUDING THE ISSUE OF
CONTRACTOR- SO. THAT'S THAT'S UP
WOULD BE PART OF A LARGER DEAL
HOPEFULLY. OF THE SECOND PIECE
OF IT HOWEVER THAT WE CAN SKATE
CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS WITH
IS IN SECTION ONE OF THE BILL
SUBDIVISION A IS THE DEFINITION
OF A COVERED ESTABLISHMENT.
WHICH IS A STEP WHICH EXPANDS
THE CURRENT DEFINITION BEYOND
ONE OF FACILITY AND OUR CONCERN
IS TWO FOLD ONE IF YOU MEET THE
FIFTY EMPLOYEES WITHIN A THIRTY
DAY- READ OF TIME YOU WOULD HAVE
TO NOTIFY OTHER. A LAOS THAT IT
COULD OCCUR WITH THE SAME
EMPLOYER AT OTHER FACILITIES
MAYBE TWO PEOPLE NOT A MASS
LAYOFF OR CLOSING. I REALIZE I
THINK AROUND PAGE EIGHT OR SO OF
YOUR COMMITTEE ANALYSIS IT NOTES
AGAIN A COMPROMISE. WHERE THE
NOTIFICATIONS WOULD JUST BE A
PRIMARILY TO THE LOCAL AREA
FOLKS. WE THINK WE WOULD PREFER
TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO AND LEAVE
COVERED ESTABLISHMENT AS IS
BECAUSE THE SECOND CONCERN IS WE
HAVE OVER SEVENTY SICKENING
THANK YOU MISTER KILL YOUR
OBSEQUIOUS IS NOTED- PLEASE READ
CRAP OF. OKAY HELLO HELLO ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU THE CLIP. MISTER
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS CORY JOHNSON ON
BEHALF CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE WE HAVE AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. THANK
YOU TO THE AUTHOR OF THE
SPONSORS AND THE AUTHOR STAFF
FOR A CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS
WITH US AROUND THE ADDITION OF
CONTRACTORS- IN THE WARN ACT.
AND WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH
INCLUDING THE CONTRACTORS SUCH
AS THE WITNESS AND ACTUALLY
OFFERED AMENDMENT THAT WOULD
HAVE SET A PART TIME THRESHOLD.
MEANING IF A CONTRACTOR WORK AT
LEAST PART TIME PER MONTH THEY
WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE
WARNING ACT- WE DIDN'T EVEN GO
FULL TIME WE KIND OF CAME TO
WITH A PART TIME- UNFORTUNATELY
THE MM INCLUDING THE ANALYSIS
INSERT. INSERT THE THRESHOLD OF
A CONTRACTOR WHO WORKS AS LITTLE
AS SIXTY HOURS IN THE LAST SIX
MONTHS- OUR GOAL FOR THE PART
TIME THRESHOLD WAS TO MAINTAIN
THE INTENT OF THE WARN ACT AND
TO PROTECT EMPLOYEES WHO MAY.
LOSE THEIR LIVELIHOOD- WHILE
ALSO MAKING IT EASILY UNDERSTOOD
BY EMPLOYERS THE AMENDMENT COULD
NOW REQUIRE AN EMPLOYER TO GIVE
NOTICE TO AN EMPLOYEE WHO WORKS
SIXTY HOURS FOR THE EMPLOYEE
EMPLOYER FIVE MONTHS AGO- WE ARE
VERY CONCERNED WITH SORT OF THE-
LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE THAT THAT'S
GOING TO TAKE FOR AN EMPLOYER TO
GO BACK OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS
DETERMINE WHAT CONTRACTORS MET
THAT THRESHOLD IN WHICH- WENT.
WHICH ONES DID NOT. AND SO WE
CONTINUE TO ASK FOR THE PART
TIME THRUSH THAT WE PROVIDE. AND
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING
DISCUSSING THANK YOU. THEY YOU
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION THIRTEEN
FIFTY SIX APPROACH. SAYING ONE
PERSON APPROACHED THE
MICROPHONES. GOOD AFTERNOON THE
TICKETS ON BEHALF OF TECHNO AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU. SEE KNOWN AS BRUCE
MICHAELIS THROUGH THE PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE ARE IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION AB THIRTEEN FIFTY
SIX MODERATE. PLEASE QUEUE UP
THOSE. ON THE PHONE. OF COURSE
WAIT EVACUATION THE REPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. WILL BE ON
THE LINE THREE FORTY NINE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU THE
KERANIQUE STATE BUILDING TRADES
IN SUPPORT. THANKS TO THE LINE
THREE OH EIGHT THE BILL AT. ALL
THE NATURE NUMBER EIGHTY FOUR
JUST ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY
THAT. CAN AND ARE FACT
ACCOMPLISHMENT. NATURAL LINE
THREE OH ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON WHICH HE SAID
GARCIA WITH THE CALIFORNIA
GROCERS ASSOCIATION. ALSO IN
OPPOSITION. NEXT OTHER LINE
THREE FIFTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HI THIS IS TERRIBLE A MALE
WITH A CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE
IN THE QUEUE AT THIS TIME MISTER
ALL RIGHT THE MUSCLES FREE BY
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS SEEING NO QUESTIONS NO
COMMENTS CENTER LAYERED MOVES
THE BILL. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR
YOUR WORK ON THIS AT
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU BUT I'M SICK TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY AB THIRTEEN FIFTY
SIX THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE NUMBER.
FIVE NUMBER FIVE WILK ALAN
ASHBY. ASHBY I CABALLERO
RUSSELL. WHERE'D WHERE'D I AM
IN. MEN I NEED LOW STERN. WIENER
FOUR ZERO FOUR ZERO GONNA PUT
THAT ON CALL ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- NEXT UP IS. BY VIRTUE
OF THE NEXT PERSON PRESENT
ACTUALLY IS ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MCKENNA. SO UNLESS THERE'S BEEN
SOME OTHER ARRANGEMENT I DON'T
THINK SO ALL RIGHT SO THE MEMBER
CAN- OKAY. OF THANK YOU VERY
MUCH BUT BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR
PRESENTATION FIRST LET ME LET ME
THANK YOU FOR THE QUALITY TIME
THAT YOU AND I'VE HAD THIS SPEND
TOGETHER HERE OVER THE LAST WEEK
OR SO I APPRECIATE THAT- AND
ACTUALLY APPRECIATE YOUR-
PRAGMATISM YOUR PASSION AND
YOUR- DEEP DEEP. INTEREST IN
THIS ISSUE I THINK THAT THAT
ULTIMATELY- WHAT'S GOING TO
RESULT FROM YOUR EFFORT IS
PROBABLY THE STRONGEST MOST
PERVASIVE. ORGANIZATIONS SLASH
UNION OF LEGISLATIVE STAFFERS IN
THE HISTORY OF THE REPUBLIC AND
I'M I AM PRONE TO SOME SARCASM
BUT I'M NOT BEING SARCASTIC AT
ALL AT THIS POINT- YOU AND I
HAVE SPENT TIME AND I WANT TO
READ. TO YOU WHAT I BELIEVE THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE PREPARED
TO TAKE- IS THIS BILL ASSUME
THIS BILL MOVES FORWARD SO LET
ME JUST TAKE A MOMENT THAT AND
MAKE SURE THAT THAT- I'M GONNA
READ THESE. CORRECTLY SO THE
FIRST. YOU'RE GONNA BE ACCEPTING
THESE AMENDMENTS AND IN THE NEXT
COMMITTEE. ON SORRY STRIKE THAT
IN THIS COMMITTEE IF YOU ACCEPT
THE AMENDMENTS IN THIS COMMITTEE
AND THAT THAT. PROVIDE THAT THE
EMPLOYER OF THAT IS THE SENATE
RULES COMMITTEE FOR THE SENATE
AND THE ASSEMBLY RULES COMMITTEE
FOR THE ASSEMBLY. AS THE SOLE
AND EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY TO
DETERMINE AND DESIGNATE
EMPLOYEES OR POSITIONS AS
EXCLUDED EMPLOYEES. OR POSITIONS
EXCLUDING PLACE WILL NOT BE PART
OF THE BARGAINING UNIT THE
EMPLOYER SHALL HAVE THE SOLE
AUTHORITY AND DISCRETION
DESIGNATE EMPLOYEE POSITIONS. AS
EXCLUDED POSITIONS PROVIDED
THAT. CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES
DEPARTMENT OR OFFICE LEADER AND
EXCLUDED POSITIONS SHALL NOT
EXCEED ONE THIRD OF THE TOTAL
AUTHORIZED. EMPLOYER POSITIONS
DESIGNATION OF THE EXCLUDED.
POSITIONS SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT
TO REVIEW BY. THE PERSONNEL. OF
WORK RELATIONS AND- FOR PERSONAL
PUBLIC RELATIONS IS NOT IT'S NOT
PUBLIC RELATIONS THE- YOUR
STAMINA. YES I TOLERATED THEM
IT'S GOT IT OKAY. NEXT PROVIDE
THAT PROVED SHALL NOT INTRUDE OR
INTERFERE WITH THE LEGISLATURE'S
CORE FUNCTION. THE FISSION
EFFECTIVE LAWMAKING OR THE
ESSENTIAL OPERATION OF THE
LEGISLATURE. NEXT CLARIFY THAT
THE BILL DOES NOT AFFECT THE
AUTHORITY OF EACH HOUSE THE
LEGISLATURE IN THE COMMITTEES TO
HOLD CLOSED MEETINGS PURSUANT TO
PARAGRAPHS THREE AND FOR. A
SUBDIVISION C. OF SECTION SEVEN
OF ARTICLE ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR OF
THE CONSTITUTION IN ARTICLE TWO
POINT TWO COMMENCING WITH
SECTION NINE ZERO TWO SEVEN OF
CHAPTER ONE POINT FIVE OF PART
ONE. OF DIVISION TWO OF TITLE TO
ASSUME YOU MEMORIZE THAT I THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT PROVIDE THAT THE
EXPRESSION OF VIEW BY A MEMBER
EMPLOYEE OR EMPLOYEES OF THE
LEGISLATURE RELATED TO THIS BILL
OR MATTERS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF
REPRESENTATION. SHALL NOT
CONSTITUTE OR BE EVIDENCE OF AN
UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE UNLESS THE
EMPLOYER AUTHORIZED THE
INDIVIDUAL TO EXPRESS THAT VIEW
OR AUTHORIZE THE INDIVIDUAL TO
REPRESENT. THE EMPLOYER. NEXT
CLARIFY THAT THE EMPLOYER IS NOT
REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE LEGISLATIVE
RECORDS RELATED TO ACTIVITIES
GOVERNED BY THE BILL THAT REVEAL
THE EMPLOYERS DELIVERED OF
PROCESS THESE IMPRESSIONS
EVALUATIONS OPINIONS.
RECOMMENDATIONS MEETING MINUTES
RESEARCH WORK PRODUCT THEORIES
OR STRATEGY THE PROVIDE
INSTRUCTION ADVICE OR TRAINING
TO EMPLOYEES WHO DO NOT HAVE
FULL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
REPRESENTATION RIGHTS UNDER THE
BILL. AND FINALLY AND LASTLY.
CHANGE THE PROVISIONS OF THE
BILL THAT REQUIRE THE EMPLOYER
TO GIVE WRITTEN NOTICE TO
RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS
AFFECTED BY ANY. QUOTE LAW RULE
OR RESOLUTION END QUOTE POSED TO
BE ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND CONFER
TO INSTEAD APPLY TO ANY POLICY
OR PROCEDURE THAT'S A QUOTE
QUOTE POLICY OR PROCEDURE AND
QUOTE. THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE
ADOPTED- YES YES YES THANK YOU
THANK YOU THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN
FOR YOUR DILIGENT WORK ON THIS
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE
ACCEPTED THOSE AMENDMENTS. YES I
HAVE THANK YOU SENATOR HART
THANK YOU AND I ALSO APPRECIATE
THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT WITH ME
WORKING THROUGH THIS AND IT I DO
THINK THAT WE ARE EMPLOYEES ARE
GOING TO BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR
THIS. ALL RIGHT SO HAVING SAID
THAT THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING
THOSE AMENDMENTS THE FLOOR IS
YOURS. AB ONE WILL GIVE NON
SUPERVISORY OR LEGISLATIVE STAFF
THE CHOICE. TO JOIN A UNION AND
TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN FOR
WAGES BENEFITS AND WORKPLACE
CONDITIONS. MEMBERS ARE STAFF
AREN'T LOOKING FOR SPECIAL
TREATMENT. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR
THE SAME DIGNITY AND RESPECT
AFFORDED TO ALL REPRESENT IT
WORKERS PERIOD. TO THE STAFF IN
OUR DISTRICT OFFICES. CAPITOL
STAFF THAT HONORABLY SERVE THE
PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA EVERY DAY. NO THIS WE
SEE YOU AND WE RESPECT YOU. AND
WITH AB ONE WE ARE TAKING ACTION
TO MAKE SURE THAT CURRENT AND
FUTURE LEGISLATIVE STAFF
REGARDLESS OF THEIR MEMBERS
POLITICAL AFFILIATION OR FORTY
TO FACE AN EQUITABLE AND FAIR
OPPORTUNITY. TO BUILD A NOBLE
CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE. IT IS
HYPOCRITICAL AS LEGISLATORS THAT
WE ASK OUR EMPLOYEES TO STAFF
COMMITTEES AND RIGHT LEGISLATION
THAT OFTEN EXPAND COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING RIGHTS FOR OTHER
WORKERS IN CALIFORNIA. BUT WE
INTENTIONALLY PROHIBIT OUR OWN
WORKERS FROM THAT SAME RIGHT.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS FAILED TO
SHOW THE POLITICAL WILL TO
RESPECT ITS STAFF FOR LONG
ENOUGH. TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO STAND UP
FOR THEIR OWN WORKERS AND I'M
PROUD TO STAND HERE TODAY WITH A
BIPARTISAN COALITION OF FORTY
THREE CO AUTHORS FROM THE
ASSEMBLY AND SENATE SUPPORTING
AB ONE. AS A FORMALIST LATEST
STAFFER AND AN ORIGINAL SIGNER
OF THE WE SAID ENOUGH LETTER
THAT SPARKED THE ME TOO
MOVEMENT. I KNOW JUST HOW
CHALLENGING IT IS TO WORK IN A
PLACE LIKE THIS. IF WE ARE FULLY
COMMITTED TO RECRUIT BEING IN
RETAINING THE BEST PASS. IF
WHICH COMMITTED TO CREATING A
SAFE AND INCLUSIVE WORKPLACE AND
IF WE'RE GOING TO SHOW OUR STAFF
THAT WE SEE THEM AND RESPECT.
THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THIS TO
THIS THIS THIS PLACE FOR THIS
BUILDING- I ASK YOU TO VOTE YES
ON THIS BILL. ALREADY THANK YOU
A WITNESS I'M SORRY I DO HAVE
WITNESSES ALMA. EN SHEBANG GAVE
THE MARKERS FROM THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION RIGHT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OF IT APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE. TWO MINUTES EACH
THANK YOU THANK YOU. I THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN SENATORS FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY. MY
NAME IS ALMOST SURE SHE AND I'M-
FORMALLY WAS A LEGISLATIVE
ASSISTANT AND FELLOW IN THE
CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY. AND I'M
GONNA BE HONEST EVEN THOUGH I
DON'T WORK IN THE LEGISLATURE
ANYMORE AND I'M ACTUALLY
TESTIFIED FOR THIS BILL ONCE
BEFORE. I'M STILL REALLY NERVOUS
AND SCARED TO BE HERE SO IMAGINE
HOW AFRAID OF MY FORMER
COLLEAGUES ARE. BUT I'M
TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF MY
FORMER COLLEAGUES BECAUSE I KNOW
HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR
LEGISLATIVE STAFF HAVE THE RIGHT
TO FORM A UNION. WITHOUT
QUESTION I CAN SEE THAT THIS
BUILDING HAS INTRODUCED ME TO
SOME OF THE SMARTEST MOST
COMPASSIONATE AND HARD WORKING
PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET. AND THEY
DESERVE THE RIGHT TO FORMING IN.
THE RIGHT TO UNION UNIONIZE GOES
BEYOND BEING IN A BAD OFFICE OR
HAVING A BAD EXPERIENCE IN THE
WORKPLACE. FUNDAMENTALLY THE
RIGHT TO UNIONIZE IS ABOUT
HELPING WORKERS FACILITATE
PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
THEIR EMPLOYEES EMPLOYERS
WITHOUT FEAR OF RETALIATION. THE
LEGISLATURE THE UNIQUE
INSTITUTION THAT'S TRUE BUT LIKE
EVERY OTHER SECTOR IT IS ALSO A
WORK PLACE AND WITH THAT COMES
THE SAME ISSUES THAT WORKERS IN
OTHER SECTORS BEEF. LIKE
HARASSMENT LONG HOURS AND LOW
WAGES. IN SHORT LEGISLATIVE
STAFFERS ARE NOT OKAY THEY'RE
TIRED THEY'RE BURNT OUT AND THEY
FEEL LIKE THERE'S NO WAY FOR
THEM TO ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES
WITHOUT RISKING THEIR JOBS. AND
THESE FEELINGS ARE EVEN MORE
PRONOUNCED FOR BLACK STAFF AND
OTHER STAFFERS OF COLOR. IT IS
EVIDENCED BY THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD TO
RELUCTANTLY AND UNFORTUNATELY
LEAVE THEIR POSITIONS IN THE
LEGISLATURE IN PURSUIT OF JOBS
THAT CAN OFFER THEM. BASIC
PROTECTIONS THAT LEGISLATIVE
STAFF ARE DENIED. HONESTLY THIS
IS UNSUSTAINABLE AND THE
LEGISLATURE IS ALREADY BEING
FORCED TO GRAPPLE WITH HOW MUCH
TALENT IS BEING LOST BECAUSE
THERE ISN'T A WAY FOR
LEGISLATIVE STAFF. TO EXERCISE
THE RIGHT TO COLLECTIVELY VOICE
THEIR CONCERNS. THIS BODY- NOT
ONLY UNDERSTANDS WHY THE RIGHT
TO UNIONIZE IS IMPORTANT BUT IT
ALSO PRIORITIZES IT IN A
CONSTANTLY VOTES TO PROTECT.
THANK YOU I AS SOON WOULD YOU
WRAP IT UP PLEASE AND I ASSUME
YOU'RE URGING AN AYE VOTE YES
OKAY. OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
THANK YOU TURN THE MEMBERSHIP ON
GITMO BECAUSE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION ALSO FORMER
LEGISLATIVE STAFFER WE'RE PROUD
TO SPONSOR AB ONE BECAUSE AS THE
LABOR MOVEMENT WE BELIEVE THAT
EVERY SINGLE WORKER WITHOUT
EXCEPTION DESERVES THE RIGHT TO
ORGANIZE AND COLLECTIVELY
BARGAIN. THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF
EVIDENCE BOTH IN THE EXECUTIVE
AND JUDICIAL BRANCHES THAT
PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS CAN
EXERCISE THE RIGHT TO
COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN. AND
PROVIDE EXEMPLARY PUBLIC
SERVICES TO ALL CALIFORNIANS
DURING COVE IT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES
MADE IMMENSE SACRIFICES TO
ENSURE THAT THEIR PUBLIC
EMPLOYERS MET THEIR
CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATIONS AND
SERVE THE PUBLIC. LEGISLATIVE
STAFF DID THE SAME. COLLECTIVE
VOICE ON THE JOB ORDER FOR HIM
TO EXPRESS THEIR NEEDS AS
WORKERS. OR THEIR CONCERNS. AB
ONE WOULD FINALLY GRANT
LEGISLATIVE STAFF THE SAME BASIC
RIGHT TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN
BUT ALL OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES
ALREADY ENJOY. FOR DECADES THE
LEGISLATURE HAS BENEFITED
CALIFORNIANS HAVE BENEFITTED
FROM THE STAFF IN THIS BUILDING
WITH THE EXTENSIVE INSTITUTIONAL
KNOWLEDGE A LONG MEMORY AND A
WIDE BREADTH OF EXPERTISE TO
HELP INFORM THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS. AND ULTIMATELY SUPPORT
YOU ALL IN MAKING GOOD IMPACTFUL
PUBLIC POLICY BUT AS THE
ANALYSIS NOTES WERE SEEN
CHALLENGES OF RETAINING
LEGISLATIVE STAFFERS MORE LEAVE
TO WORK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR
WHICH IS A HUGE LOSS FOR THIS
INSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUENT
TO SERVE. GIVING LEGISLATIVE
STAFF THE DIGNITY TO HAVE A SAY
IN THEIR WORKPLACE IS A
MEANINGFUL WAY TO RESPECT AND
RETAIN THE EXCELLENT STAFF THAT
MAKE THE WORK OF THE LEGISLATURE
POSSIBLE. AND ULTIMATELY CAN
OPEN DOORS TO ENSURE STAFF IN
THIS BUILDING REFLECT THE
DIVERSITY OF OUR STATE WE WERE
SPECIAL RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS TRISTEN BROWN
TO SEE IF TO UNION EDUCATORS
ACROSS FIVE PROFESSIONALS AND A
FORMER UNPAID INTERN FOR A LABOR
CHAIR AND THE OTHER HOUSE STRONG
SUPPORT BASE. NOT THAT WE'RE
GOING TO NAME NAMES ALL RIGHT
GOOD NAVNEET PRAYER ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN SUPPORT.
THIS IS KEREN CENTER SCOBIE
PRESIDING FROM THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PSYCHIATRIC
TECHNICIANS- ALSO IN STRONG
SUPPORTER AND AS A LEAD STAFFER
FROM. NINETY SIX TO TWO THOUSAND
SIX ALSO. PERSONALLY THANK YOU.
IN ORDER LOCUSTS POLICY FELLOW
WITH THE WESTERN CENTER ON LAW
AND POVERTY HERE IN SUPPORT OF
AB ONE. THANK YOU- GRACIE SAID
CHRISTOPHER MY PERSONAL CAPACITY
IN SUPPORT. THIS IS KEREN
SENATORS MICHELLE TRAN WILL FORK
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COMMISSION
ON THE STATUS SO MANY GIRLS IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU TO THE
OTHER. AFTERNOON JAMES MICHAEL
POWELL WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES IN STRONG
SUPPORTER CHEN AYE VOTE THANK
YOU. ROBERT CRUZ LEGISLATIVE
STAFF AND SUPPORT. DANNY CANNOT
BECAUSE OUR BEHALF OF CORBIN AND
KAISER ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA LOW INCOME CONSUMER
COALITION IS STRONG SUPPORT.
KEEP IN MIND THAT FORMER
LEGISLATIVE STAFFER IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. CAN REALLY
ROSENBERGER WITH SEIU IN SUPPORT
. SO OBVIOUSLY SHAUN BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. HI
CATALINA SANCHEZ- FORMER COLLEGE
STAFF AND- CURRENT CITY COUNCIL
MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF GREATLY
IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT LOSES SUPPORT SEEING NO
ONE ELSE APPROACH TO MY PHONE
OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE IN
OPPOSITION TO AB ONE PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. ONCE
TWICE THREE TIMES SAYING KNOWN
APPROACH TO MY FULLEST TURN TO
THE PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WHO IN
SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION AB
ONE. MODERATOR PLEASE QUEUE UP
THOSE ON THE PHONE LINE. OF
COURSE PLACEMENT WISHES SPEAKING
OR OR OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS. WE'RE GOING TO
LINE THREE SIXTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HE'LL BE HERE NEXT STATE
BUILDING TRADE BEFORE. THAT'S
GOING TO LINE THREE FORTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. BROWN'S MOST
BEGIN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TEACHERS ASSOCIATION
IN STRONG SUPPORT. AND ACCESS
ADELINE THREE SEVENTY TWO PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MR CHEN MEMBERS PAT
WITH AREA REGION IF THOSE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA. OF
PROFESSIONAL FIGHT IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AND I CURRENTLY DON'T
HAVE BOOKS WE JUST HAD A WHOLE
BUNCH YOU UP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE.
THANKS. FOR ONE OF MY DEFAULT AS
FOR THE TRYING TO FIND THE ONE
ACTUALLY HAVE LINE GIVEN.
I DO APOLOGIZE IN BEHALF OF SOME
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WILL TAKE
A MOMENT.
CONNECTED ONLINE THREE SEVENTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. KAREN
NUMBERS MANY CARL FORMER
DISTRICT AFTER FALLING INTO
PLACE THEY GIVE. YES GOING TO
LINE THREE SEVENTY THE BILL AT.
THEY ARE NOT IN THE FORTIES WITH
THE FACT CALLING IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. NEXT ON TO LINE THREE
EXPECT PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THERE
ROGER FORMER LEGISLATIVE STAFF
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ALL. NEXT ON THE LINE THREE SIX
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. I LIVE IN
L. A. COUNTY RIGHT BEFORE THE
BELL THANK YOU. NATURALLY GOING
TO LINE THREE SEVEN FIVE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME
ISN'T IT. FORMER DISTRICT STAFF
MEMBER- HE WAS HOPEFUL NUMBER
AND I'M GONNA WORK. THANK YOU.
NEXT TO LAUNCH LINE THREE SIX
THREE PLEASE BUT- HI DANIEL
SURE- ME A OF IT YOU ONE STATE
WORKERS STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
. THANK YOU ON THE LINE THREE
SEVEN SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
CURRENT LEGISLATIVE BELIEVES
BURKE THANK YOU. NEXT GOING TO
THREE SEVEN ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HI THIS IS RINKER CURRENT
LEGISLATIVE EMPLOYEE CALLING ON
TRUMP TO URGENT FONG FORT THANK
YOU. AFTER GOING TO ONE THREE
FIVE NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU SACRAMENTO THE FORMER FELLOW
ALLEGED AND BOARD MEMBER OF SEAL
PAF MEGAPOLIS THE ONE
MATHEMATICIAN IN STRONG SUPPORT
LEGISLATION THANK YOU. NEXUS
ONLINE THREE EIGHT ZERO PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI GARRETT LEIGHT WHO
GOT SOME PRETTY STRONG
DISAPPOINTMENT FOR ANY
LIMITATIONS BUT VERY STRONG
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL THANKS
THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE TO ONE
THREE SIX FOUR THE BILL AT. GOOD
AFTERNOON THE MODEL ORANGE
COUNTY LABOR IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK. ACTIVE ON THE LINE THREE
SEVEN NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YOU'RE A FORMER ASSEMBLY FASTER
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND NEXT
ON THE LINE THREE EIGHTY ONE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. NO A CURRENT
LEGISLATIVE STOPPER IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND THERE'S
CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE IN THE
QUEUE AT THIS TIME ALL RIGHT
LET'S BRING BACK COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS. THANKS MISTER
SUPPOSED TO CALL IN YOU
OPPOSITION TO THE. I RIGHT I
THINK THAT THE THIS MEMBER-
ACTUALLY TO A MEMBER TO MAKE
SURE YOU CAN SAY THAT SORRY. I
ALL RIGHT YES S. B. YEAH I THINK
YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU TO
EVERYBODY WHO SHOWED UP AND THAT
AND CALLED IN AND I KNOW YOU
WERE NERVOUS BUT SHE DID GREAT.
SO YEAH I GET TO REPRESENT
SACRAMENTO WHICH- MOST OF THE
STAFF THE CURRENT STAFF LIVE
HERE MOST OF THEM DO AND ONE
THING THAT MAKES THIS CITY SO
SPECIAL IS THE ENERGY AROUND
PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE. AND THEY DON'T MAKE
VERY MUCH MONEY HERE AND
GOODNESS KNOWS THE WORKING
CONDITIONS ARE NOT THE VAST THAT
THAT TAKE MEETINGS AND HALLWAYS
AND BUT THEY MAKE IT WORK AND
THAT CAN DO SPIRIT. IT
TRANSLATES WELL OUTSIDE OF THIS
BUILDING I'VE ONLY BEEN IN THIS
BUILDING FOR SEVEN MONTHS BUT
I'VE BEEN IN SACRAMENTO MOST OF
MY LIFE AND THAT CAN DO SPIRIT.
THAT LIFTING EACH OTHER UP
WORKING REALLY HARD FOR YOUR
STATE FOR YOUR REGION IF YOU
DON'T BELIEVE ME COME TO A KINGS
GAME AND WATCH HOW HARD YOUR
STAFF CHEER FOR THAT TEAM AND-
JUST WHAT A DIFFERENCE IT MAKES
IN EVERY CORNER OF THE CITY SO.
I DO WANT TO SAY THOUGH TO THIS
AUTHOR THAT'S A TOUGH PILL TO
CARRY BECAUSE- I THINK YOU KNOW
BROADLY PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT
THE UNIONIZATION OF THE STAFF WE
ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A
MASTERFUL JOB OF WORKING WITH
PEOPLE LIKE OUR CHAIR AND I
REALLY GRATEFUL TO HIM TO AND
THE COMMITTEE STAFF. FOR PUTTING
SO MUCH ENERGY INTO IT BECAUSE I
THINK IT HAS A REAL SHOT AT
BEING SUCCESSFUL AND I THINK
THAT WAS YOUR GOAL ALL ALONG IT
WAS IT WAS NEVER JUST ABOUT A
CONVERSATION. ABOUT ACTUALLY
GETTING SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT
WILL WORK THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE
WHO ARE HERE DOING EVERYTHING
THEY CAN TO SUPPORT US AND TO.
SUPPORT OUR CONSTITUENTS IN. IN
MY CASE TO. MAKE THIS CITY GREAT
TOO AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL TO YOU
AND I'M GONNA MOVE YOUR BILL.
AND THAT PROBABLY VOTE I TODAY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO
TO CENTER ALLINSON EARLIER. WHAT
IS CLOSE ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH
MY- MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS- HAVE
YOU VOTE FOR THE BILL AND
CONGRATULATED. AND OUT. ANYONE
ELSE JUST. IT REITERATE THE
THING- THE GRATITUDE TO YOU
WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH THE
CHAIRED IT TO GET THE BILL INTO
A WORKABLE PLACE OR HAVE A GOOD
STRONG NEED FOR. OUR STAFF AND-
IT'S ME WORKING. THE LEGISLATURE
SETTING IT'S A- GOOD THING AND
HAPPY TO HAVE THE SUPPORT. THANK
EARLIER I JUST WANT TO DO ME TO.
TO CENTER ASHBY I THINK THAT WAS
INCREDIBLY WELL SAID. I'M A CO
AUTHOR. AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD
TO THIS GOING ALL. THE WAY THIS
TIME. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
WORK ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SAID
EARLIER ALL RIGHT- LASTLY. SO I
KNOW I LOOK I AM THIRTY NINE
YEARS OLD BUT I'M ACTUALLY SIXTY
SEVEN. AND IT HAD A- CAREER IN
THE PUBLIC SECTOR THE PRIVATE
SECTOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
STATE GOVERNMENT. AND CAN SAY
THAT THAT IN MILITARY THAT THAT
WE ARE INCREDIBLY BLESSED AND IT
IS A SHAME THAT THE GENERAL
PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW HOW BLESSED
WE ARE TO HAVE SUCH TALENTED
PASSIONATE. FOLKS THAT SURROUND
US TO DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK ON A
DAILY BASIS. I FREQUENTLY TALK
TO MY STAFF ABOUT GETTING PAID
SO I COULD DOLLARS WHICH IS THE
PAYMENT THAT THEY MOSTLY GET
HERE ONE STAFF MEMBER REMINDED
ME THAT. BANKS TYPICALLY DON'T
ACCEPT LIKE EIGHT DOLLARS- AND I
BELIEVE THAT STAFFS UNDERPAID I
MEAN I'M SURROUNDED HERE WITH
JUDICIARY STAFF MY DISTRICT
STAFF MY CAPITOL STAFF. THEY ARE
ALL. EXCELLENT JUST EXCELLENT
PUBLIC SERVICE IN A AND I'M I'M
GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
ADD AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD. AN
ADDITIONAL VOICE TO THEM- AND
THEN LASTLY I WANT TO THANK YOU
AND ESPECIALLY- ARCHIE
CONSULTANT MARGE'S STRADA. WHO
SPENT A LOT OF TIME MAKING SURE
THAT THAT THIS IS A- VERY.
STRONG UNION BUT ONE THAT CAN
WORK IN ONE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE
THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS SO. HAVING
SAID THAT I THINK THAT ASSEMBLY
IS SENATOR ASHLEY IS MOVE THE
BILL- AND WITHOUT THAT WITHOUT
FURTHER DO WOULD LIKE CLOSE. YES
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MA'AM
SIR CRITICAL ROLE. THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY NINE AB ONE
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE- BURKE HI. NUMBER FIVE
WILK. ALLEN ALLEN HI ASHLEY.
ASHLEY I COULD BE EURO. TO
RUSSELL. WEIRD LAYERED BY MEN.
NEW LOW. STERN WIENER. FOUR ZERO
NINE FOUR ZERO GONNA PUT THAT ON
CALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S SEE WHO
WE HAVE HERE WE HAVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER PACHECO I THINK
IS NEXT IN LINE SO. I AND NUMBER
THIRTY- TEN THIRTY TWO AB TEN
THIRTY TWO. SURE CAN YOU GIVE US
A QUICK UPDATE. REALLY HAVE
SEVENTEEN THOSE LEFT. SENATOR
WILK IS JUST NOTIFIED US THAT WE
ONLY HAVE SEVENTEEN BILLS LEFT
AND WE'RE- THAT'S TOO BAD THE.
ALL RIGHT WELL YOU WE DON'T GO
TO FOR BECAUSE WE HAVE DINNER
COME HERE WHILE SO RIGHT RIGHT
OKAY ALL RIGHT- ASSEMBLY MEMBER
VERTICAL THANK YOU HI GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR- AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE TODAY I HAVE THE
PLEASURE OF PRESENTING ASSEMBLY
BILL TEN THIRTY TWO. I WANT TO
START BY THANKING THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK
AND DEDICATION ON THIS BILL AND
WITH WORKING WITH US ON
AMENDMENTS. AND WE WILL BE
ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TODAY. I IN
TWO THOUSAND ONE SB THREE
SEVENTY ONE BY FORMER SENATOR
SCHOOL DIAZ FABLESS THAT TRIAL
COURT INTERPRETER EMPLOYMENT AND
LABOUR RELATIONS ACT TO
ESTABLISH AN INTERPRETER
EMPLOYEE WORK FORCE. THAT WOULD
HELP WITH LANGUAGE AXIS.
UNFORTUNATELY IT DID NOT GO FAR
ENOUGH IN HELPING RECRUIT AND
INCENTIVIZE COURTS TO HIGHER
COURT INTERPRETERS AS EMPLOYEES.
RATHER THAN INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS SOME REGIONS OF
CALIFORNIA HAVE 68% OF
ASSIGNMENTS BEING COMPLETED BY
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AS
RECORDED IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY
SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN. COURTS ARE
CURRENTLY NOT HIRING CURTAIN
TURF WRITERS AND RELYING HEAVILY
ON INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS WHO
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE AVAILABLE
ON ALL. ON AN ALL DAY BASIS IN
COURTHOUSES. AB TEN THIRTY TWO
WOULD UPDATE A TRIAL COURT
INTERPRETER EMPLOYMENT AND
LABOUR RELATIONS ACT TO ENSURE
GREATER RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION OF COURT INTERPRETERS
AS EMPLOYEES INSTEAD OF
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. IT
WOULD ALSO ADD PROVISIONS TO
HELP FACILITATE CROSS EXCITEMENT
FOR BORROWING COURT INTERPRETERS
COURT INTERPRETERS ACROSS
COUNTIES TO HELP OUT RURAL
AREAS. CARP INTERPRETERS ARE
VITAL TO THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM
SERVING PEOPLE IN OVER THIRTY
DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. AB TEN
THIRTY TWO WILL HELP THE COURTS
FUNCTION AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND
BETTER SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES.
COURT INTERPRETERS ARE CRUCIAL
FOR PARTIES TO UNDERSTAND AND
EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN THEIR NAY
LANGUAGE AND I KNOW THIS FIRST
HAND AS I HAVE PRACTICE LAW IN
COURT ROOM. AND WITH ME TODAY I
HAVE A WITNESS- IN SUPPORT HIS
NAME IS IGNACIO AT LANDIS OF IT
NONE THIS STRATEGY GROUP. THANK
YOU THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
MEMBERS ARE COMMITTED NOT
CERTAIN AND IS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FEDERATION OF
INTERPRETERS LOCAL THIRTY NINE
THOUSAND THE SPONSORS OF THE
BILL AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE
COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA
DISTRICT NINE. IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL- COURTEN CHARTERS PROVIDE
YOU KNOW CRITICAL BRIDGE FOR
INDIVIDUALS- TO PARTICIPATE IN
THE PROCEEDINGS CIVIL CASES
CRIMINAL CASES COVERING
CONSTITUTION REQUIRES. INTERPRET
EVERY CASE FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS
ACT REQUIRES IT IN EVERY CASE IN
EVERY CIVIL CASE. AND WE ARE
STILL STRUGGLING CALIFORNIA TO
DELIVER THAT LANGUAGE ACCESS WE
HAVE LANGUAGE ACCESS PLANS TO
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE COULD
CONDUCTED WORKING GROUP'S
THEY'RE WORKING GROUP'S UPDATING
INTERPRETER ACT. UNDER THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION US DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE WAS INVESTIGATING THE
COURT SYSTEM HERE IN CALIFORNIA
TO ENSURE WE PROVIDE COURT
INTERPRETERS IN EVERY CASE AT NO
COST. VIÆT MINISTRATIONS YOU IN
THE SAME ACROSS THE COUNTRY
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE COURT
INTERPRETER ACT IN SUCH A WAY
THAT WE CAN. INCREASE THE NUMBER
OF COURT INTERPRETER EMPLOYEES
OPPOSITION LIGHT OF AB FIVE BUT
ALSO WE'VE MADE AMENDMENTS TO
ENSURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
RELY ON- INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS
AS NECESSARY BUT ALSO TO
INCENTIVIZE OPENINGS. TO MOVE TO
TRANSITION THOSE INTERPRETERS
WHO CHOOSE TO BECOME EMPLOYEES
AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT WE
WANT IS A ROBUST WORK FORCE TO
PROVIDE LANGUAGE ACCESS TO
EVERYONE IN EVERY CASE. AT NO
COST TO ENSURE DUE PROCESS TO
ENSURE THAT INDIVIDUALS LEGAL
RIGHTS ARE BEING PROTECTED AND
THAT OUR COURT SYSTEM STANDS UP
AS SHINING EXAMPLES OF
PROTECTING THOSE. WHO ARE
LIMITED IN ENGLISH PROFICIENT WE
STUDIED IT WE'VE LOOKED AT IT
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS
AND YEARS WE ALMOST SUED BY THE
U. S. DOJ. THIS IS THE IT'S TIME
NOW TO UPDATE THE ACT I WANT TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL OF
ITS WORK IN ALL THE MINUTES I
THINK THE AUTHOR FOLLOW THE WORK
ON IT. AND WITH THAT ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU MR
NANDO'S WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF AB
TEN THIRTY TO PLEASE APPROACH
MICROPHONE SEEING NO ONE
APPROACH TO THE MICROPHONE-
LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. IF
YOU'RE AN OPPOSITION AB TEN
THIRTY TO PLEASE PRESS MIKE FROM
. MISTER CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE CORD JEFFERSON ON
BEHALF OF THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
WE ARE SUPPOSE OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED WE APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS. AND A VERY THOROUGH
JOB IN THE ANALYSIS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE STILL HAVE SOME
CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED. THE BILL GOES UP
BEYOND JUST UPDATING THE ACTIVE
MAKE SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT
CHANGES. THAT INTERACT WHICH WE
BELIEVE WILL UNDULY RESTRICT THE
INTERPOL AND WHEN THEY
NEGATIVELY IMPACT LIMITED
ENGLISH LITIGANTS. A COUPLE OF
QUICK THINGS. IT'S THE
INTERPRETER PROTON EMPLOYMENT
CLASSIFICATION. THIS IS A
PROBLEMATIC- WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
REPORTERS PROTON. DISTINGUISH
BETWEEN OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS
AT WORK FOR THE COURT PRO
TEMPORE REPORTERS. BETTER
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. AND
DINNER DESIST TERM OF. IN PROTON
INTERPRETERS. MAY HAVE THE SAME
TERM. APPLYING TO YOU KNOW
DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF FOLKS
AND YOU THE ANALYSIS-
INADVERTENTLY REFERENCED CORPORE
PROTONS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WE
HAVE PROVIDED A- DEFINITION THAT
WOULD BE MORE. MORE WORKABLE AND
AVOID SOME OF THE CONFUSION
BETWEEN. WHETHER APPROACH
EMPLOYEE AS- AN EMPLOYEE OR
WHETHER PROTON AS AN INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR. THE LANGUAGE ALSO
INTRODUCES THE CONCEPT OF
LANGUAGES. OF LESSER DIFFUSION.
THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT
THE CLEAR THAT UP STILL NEEDS TO
HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK
THERE ARE COURTS CAN ALREADY
HIGHER. REGISTER INTERPRETERS IF
THE INTENT IS FOR NON RESIDENT
OVER TO BE HIRED. THEN THE
CONCERN IS THAT FULLER
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THOSE
INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT PASSED ANY
TYPE OF PROFICIENCY EXAMINATION
. THE BILL REDUCES THE USE OF
PROVISIONAL QUALIFIED
INTERPRETERS FROM SIX MONTHS TO
FORTY FIVE DAYS. AND ELIMINATES
PROVISIONALLY QUALIFIED
INTERPRETERS IN CRIMINAL
PROCEEDINGS. WHICH COULD LEAD TO
MORE CONTINUANCES AND DEFENSE
SPENDING MORE TIME IN JAIL.
FINALLY IT INTERFERES WITH
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY
INTRODUCING PROBLEMATIC LUMP SUM
AND PAY MANDATES WHICH GO FAR
BEYOND WHAT WE SEE IN ANY OTHER.
PUBLIC SECTOR LABOR STATUTES. SO
BOTTOM LINE FOR US WE WANT TO
MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE FLEXIBILITY
AND AVOID ANY UNINTENDED
NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON LANGUAGE
ACCESS TO THE COURTS ARE ANY
THANK YOU MISTER GESTURES
REPORTER MORE DISCUSSIONS ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU ARE OTHERS
OPPOSED AB TEN THIRTY TWO.
PLEASE APPROACH THING NO ONE
ELSE APPROACH TO MIKE FROM THE
START OF THE PHONE LINES FOR
THOSE WHO IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION AB TEN THIRTY TWO.
BOLLIGER SAID THAT- UNIX THAT HE
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO
ONE QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME
MISTER. ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING
BACK COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEEING NONE
IS THERE MOTION. SOME OF THE
RACEMOSE THE BILL ALL RIGHT.
WHICH I CLOSE THANK YOU HI AND
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION TODAY AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. ALL RIGHT MA'AM SECTOR
KALRA. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
THIRTY AB TEN THIRTY TWO. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE BURKE HI NUMBER I WILK
. ALAN ASHBY. CABALLERO RUSSELL.
RUSSELL I LAYERED LAYERED BY MEN
. NEIL STERN. STERN AYE WIENER.
FOUR ZERO FIVE FOUR ZERO PUT ON
CALL AND- I BELIEVE THE NEXT
PERSON WHO'S HERE ON THE FILE IS
ASSEMBLY MEMBER QUIRK-SILVA I
AND NUMBER THIRTY THREE AB FOUR
SIX EIGHT.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
A LONG AFTERNOON AND MORNING
WE'VE BEEN WATCHING TODAY I
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL FOUR SIXTY
EIGHT WHICH EXTENDS EXISTING
INSPECTIONS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT
TO BUILDINGS USED FOR HUMAN
HABITATION REGARDLESS OF THE
ZONING AND IMPROVES TENANT
PROTECTIONS WHEN BUILDINGS ARE
DEEMED UNSAFE. CALIFORNIA STATE
HOUSING LAWS ARE SOME OF THE
MOST COMPREHENSIVE IN THE NATION
ESTABLISHING HEALTH AND SAFETY
PROTECTIONS THEY'RE BUILDING
STANDARDS TO ASSURE DECENT SAFE
AND SANITARY HOUSING FOR ALL
HOWEVER THE REALITY IS
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHO ARE
UNABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING OR TAKING UP SHELTER IN
BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
ZONED RESIDENTIAL. THIS HAS
ENHANCED A PROBLEM WE'RE BOTH
WAREHOUSES AND FACTORY SPACES
ARE BEING CONVERTED IN TO USED
AS RESIDENTIAL USE WITHOUT THE
KNOWLEDGE OF LOCAL OFFICIALS AND
WITHOUT THE BUILDING BEING
HABITABLE AND DECEMBER TWENTY
SIXTEEN A DEADLY FIRE AT A TWO
STORY WAREHOUSE IN OAKLAND KNOWN
AS THE GO SHIP. KILLED THIRTY
SIX PEOPLE THE HIGHEST DEATH
TOLL FOR A STRUCTURAL FIRE IN
THE UNITED STATES AND OVER A
DECADE AGO SHIP WAS A WAREHOUSE
THAT WAS ILLEGALLY BEING LEASED
TO ARTISTS WHO LIVED AND WORKED
IN THE BUILDING AND PERIODICALLY
USED IT FOR EVENTS.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS TRAGEDY IS
NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT THE
RECENT SHOOTINGS IN HALF MOON
BAY THAT TOOK THE LIVES OF SEVEN
FARMWORKERS LIVING IN SHIPPING
CONTAINERS CAST MORE LIGHT ON
THE GRIM REALITIES OF UNSAFE
HOUSING CONDITIONS THAT HARD
WORKING CALIFORNIANS LIVE WITH.
UNHEALTHY AND UNSAFE HOUSING HAS
SERVED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FAR
FAR FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE AND FOR
FAR TOO LONG WE NEED TO BETTER
EMPOWER LOCAL AND STATE AGENCIES
TO DEAL WITH THE LAP ATTAINTED
COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
BEING USED AS HOUSING WITH ME
TODAY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT AND TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE OUR
FAITH GORGEOUS ON BEHALF OF THE
BILL'S SPONSOR THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS. AND MR BRADY CURTAIN
PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER OF THE
CALIFORNIA AND CALIFORNIA
BUILDING OFFICIALS. RT PLEASURES
GOOD AFTERNOON GREAT FOR JUST ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS THE PROUD SPONSORS AT
EIGHTY FOUR SIXTY EIGHT. VERY
BRIEFLY CURRENT OFFICERS ARE THE
MEN AND WOMEN ON THE FRONTLINES
OF ENFORCING HOUSING CODES AND
THEY DEAL WITH ALL ASPECTS OF
ENSURING SAFETY AND QUALITY OF
LIFE FOR CALIFORNIANS. AND AS
INDICATED CENSUS DATA HAS SHOWN
THAT THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL
AMOUNTS OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE
SUB STANDARD THAT CALIFORNIANS
ARE LIVING IN THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. THIS BILL CLARIFIES AN
AMBIGUITY IN EXISTING LAW BY
CLEARLY STATING THAT A SUB
STANDARD BUILDING FOR PURPOSES
OF STATE HOUSING LAW MEANS A
RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OR ANY
OTHER BUILDING THAT USED FOR
HUMAN HABITATION. THAT SUB
STANDARD REGARDLESS OF THE
ZONING STATE HOUSING LAWS
PROVIDE FOR RELOCATION
ASSISTANCE TO TENANTS THAT ARE
DISPLACED FROM A RESIDENTIAL
UNIT AS A RESULT OF AN ORDER TO
VACATE BY LOCAL ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES UNDER SERIOUS
CONDITIONS. THAT INCLUDE A LACK
OF WANTING OF RUNNING WATER AND
ADEQUATE LABORATORIES ROAD INTO
STATIONS AND OTHER SPECIFIED
CONDITIONS. THIS BILL ALSO
DEFINES THE TERM RESIDENTIAL
UNIT FOR THOSE PURPOSES OF
RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FOR LAWFUL
TENANTS TO INCLUDE ANY UNIT
RENTED FOR HUMAN HABITATION THAT
SUB STANDARD. DESPITE BEING
RENTED AS HOUSING FACTORIES
COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL
BUILDINGS AND WAREHOUSES SUCH AS
THE GO SHIPS. ARE NOT IN
RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND THEREFORE
HAVE EVADED MUCH NEEDED SAFETY
INSPECTIONS AND CODE
ENFORCEMENT. ANTENNA
PROTECTIONS. FOLLOWING THE
HORRIFIC SHOOTINGS IN HALF MOON
BAY THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE
REPORTED ON THE SUBSTANDARD
HOUSING CONDITIONS AT TWENTY
SEVEN FARMWORKERS INCLUDING
THEIR FAMILIES WERE LIVING IN.
AND CONVERTED TRAILERS WITH NO
RECORD OF HOUSING PERMITS OR
INSPECTIONS. THESE CONDITIONS
WERE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN
THE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES OF
THE SHOOTER THAT TOOK THE LIVES
OF SEVEN FARMWORKERS. WE CAN
THINK OF NO BETTER CLOSING THAT
. ASKING FOR YOUR ADJOURNMENT IN
THEIR MEMORY. THANK VERY MUCH
THAT. GET OFF. NOON TERM MEMBERS
PRETTY GOOD ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING OFFICIALS IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE.
OUR MISSION IS TO PROMOTE PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY IN THE BUILT
ENVIRONMENT THROUGH RESPONSIBLE
LEGISLATION EDUCATION AND
BUILDING CO DEVELOPMENT. AB FOUR
SIXTY EIGHT WILL FURTHER THE
GOALS OF OUR MEMBERS TO ENFORCE
BUILDING CODE GROTESQUE BUILDING
CODE VIOLATIONS. IN BUILDINGS
THAT ARE NOT ZONED FOR
RESIDENTIAL USE TO PROMOTE
BETTER HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY
WE ARE. SECOND ALL THE COMMENTS
BY OUR PARTNERS IN CASE YO AND
WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL TO
THE OFFICE FOR THEIR CONTINUED
EFFORTS ON THIS BILL. AND URGE
YOUR SUPPORT SO THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT OF
AB FOUR SIX EIGHT PLEASE PUSH MY
PHONE THING NO ONE ELSE
APPROACHING MICROLITHS TURN TO
OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AB
FOUR SIX EIGHT PLEASE PRESS MY
PHONE. THING KNOWN APPROACH TO
MY PHONE LET'S TURN TO THE PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AB FOUR
SIX EIGHT. LATER GENERATION
SPEAK IN COURT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS. ONE ZERO. THERE'S
CURRENTLY NO IN GIVING UP THIS
TIME SHARE. ALREADY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH IS BRING BACK MANY
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS
SEEING NONE- IS THERE A MOTION
WILL. SENATOR WILK OF COURSE
MOVES THE BILL ALL RIGHT- WOULD
YOU LIKE CLOSE. A RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU. MEMSIC TO PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER THIRTY THREE A BEFORE
SIXTY EIGHT THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE UMBERG. HI I WILL CRY
WILK AYE ALLEN. ASHLEY
CABALLERO. RUSSELL WHERE'D- I'M
IN. MEELO STERN RIGHT STERN AYE
WIENER FOUR ZERO. FOUR ZERO WILL
PUT THAT ON CALL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU SENATOR ALL RIGHT
I SEE THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE
WOULD BE. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LOWENTHAL. SO WE WERE LOWENTHAL
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY FOUR AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY THREE. OH I'M
SORRY OF- I'M I'M I'M I
MISSPOKE. I SEE THAT ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY ONE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
JACKSON. IS NEXT UP. SELF. KEY
TO THE WAITED HERE FOR BETTER
NOW YEAH A YEAH. I SEE THIS
THANK YOU SO THE NUMBER
LOWENTHAL FOR YOUR IN. REAL SO.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY-
MISTER IS A MY TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL FOUR TWENTY SAY.
FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK
AND THOUGHTFUL AMENDMENTS- I
WILL BE ACCEPTING THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS THAT ASKS A DUE
PROCESS AND MAKES THE CLEAR THAT
CIVIL PENALTIES APPLY TO THE
ENTITY AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL
COUNTY WORKER. AS CHAIR OF THE
ASSEMBLY HUMAN SERVICES
COMMITTEE THIS BILL WILL ENSURE
STATES MOST VULNERABLE FOSTER
YOUTH ARE NOT FORCED TO SLEEP IN
PLACES THAT ENDANGER THEIR
WELFARE SUCH AS OFFICE BUILDINGS
OR JUVENILE DETENTION CENTERS.
WHILE THE ASSEMBLY HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE ADDRESSES THE
COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS. FOR
ENSURING. THAT ANY THOUGHT OF
THE NECESSITY OF THESE PLACES
ARE GOING TO BE I WOULD BE
NECESSARY. WHEN YOU ENTER
CALIFORNIA'S FOSTER CARE SYSTEM
WE THE STATE BECOMES THEIR
CUSTODIAL PARENTS. WE HAVE THE
DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY MAKE
SURE THEIR HEALTH AND WELL BEING
OUR A TOP PRIORITY. THESE
CHILDREN ARE ALREADY IN DURING A
TRAUMATIC EVENT OF BEING
SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILY AND
IT IS THE STATE'S JOB TO PREVENT
ANY FURTHER TRAUMA. I WOULD ALSO
ADD THAT WHEN THE STATE BECOMES
AWARE OF THAT THERE ARE FOSTER
YOUTH THAT ARE BEING HOUSED IN
UNSAFE CONDITIONS SUCH AS-
HAVING TO SLEEP. IN COUNTY
OFFICES OF THIS BILL AUTHORIZES
THE STATE TO NOTIFY COUNTIES
THAT THEY HAVE SIXTY DAYS TO
FIND APPROPRIATE PLACEMENTS FOR
YOU FOSTER YOUTH BEFORE. A
TEMPORARY PLACEMENT MANAGER IS
INSTALLED AND CIVIL PENALTIES
ARE INCREASED. THE CURRENT
PENALTY FOR PLACING YOUTH IN AN
UNSAFE OUR FACILITY IS TWO
HUNDRED DOLLARS PER DAY AND NOT
HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE
NINETEEN EIGHTY FIVE. AT TWO
HUNDRED DOLLARS AT THAT TIME
WOULD HE BE THE EQUIVALENT OF
FIVE HUNDRED NINETY SIX DOLLARS
TODAY. I RESPECTFULLY- ASK YOUR
AYE VOTES AND ALL WILL ALSO I
JUST SAY THAT- THIS BILL IS NOT
INTENDED TO CREATE A
COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION- THIS
BILL IS JUST INTENDED TO ENSURE
THAT WHILE WE BEGIN TO WORK ON A
COMPLEX SITUATION- A COMPLEX
ISSUE SUCH AS THIS. THAT WE MAKE
SURE THAT THE LEAST WE CAN DO.
WHILE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE IN
THE CARE OF THE STATE. IS TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE
TO SLEEP IN OFFICES AND
DETENTION CENTERS I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF AB FOUR TO
SIX PLEASE APPROACH MICROPHONE.
SEEING NO ONE APPROACH TO MY
PHONE LET'S- TURNED OPPOSITION
IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AB FOUR TO SIX
PLEASE APPROACH MICHAEL. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR TERRENCE SANDERS
AMANDA KURTZ FROM BEHALF THE
COUNTY WELFARE DIRECTORS
ASSOCIATION WE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS ENGAGED
ON THIS ISSUE BUT UNFORTUNATELY
WE ARE OPPOSED TO EIGHTY FOUR
TWENTY SIX. NO ONE WANTS FOSTER
CHILD TO SPEND EVEN ONE NIGHT AN
UNLICENSED FACILITY BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THAT SIMPLY BEEN
THE REALITY THE COUNTIES A FEAST
FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS NOW.
THERE ARE SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH
TREATMENT OPTIONS FOR YOU OR
PROCREATE TREATMENT SETTINGS THE
BILL UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T-
ADDRESS ANYTHING TO SOLVE THAT
PROBLEM. SINCE IMPLEMENTING THE
CONTINUAL OF CARE REFORM IN
TWENTY FIFTEEN CALIFORNIA'S MAKE
GREAT STRIDES IN REDUCING USE OF
CONGREGATE CARE BUT WE'VE ALSO
LOST MANY OF OUR TREATMENT
OPTIONS. AS GROUP HOMES DID NOT
TRANSITION TO SHORT TERM
RESIDENTIAL THERAPY PLACEMENT
TREATMENTS OR US YOUR GPS. I'M A
FEDERAL POLICY CHANGES HAVE ALSO
CREATED FURTHER REDUCTIONS. AT
THE SAME TIME COMMUNITY BASED
SUPPORTS FOR FAMILIES HAVE NOT
KEPT PACE WITH NEEDS LEAVING
COUNTIES LITERALLY YOU KNOW
WHERE TO TURN FOR YOU WITH THE
MOST COMPLEX AND CROSS CUTTING
NEEDS. BASED ON CDS. OWN DATA
CALIFORNIA'S LOST OVER ONE
THOUSAND BEDS IN THIS YEAR TWO
PEAS IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE. AND
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT IT-
THIS IS NOT A MONEY PROBLEM.
CARRIES A REGULARLY PAYING FORTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR S.
HERE T. P. PLACEMENT OF ONE.
SOMETIMES THAT MONEY IS ACTUALLY
DOUBLED EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
A MONTH SOME COUNTIES ARE PAYING
IN EXCESS OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THESE
PLACEMENTS SO THAT KIDS CAN HAVE
. SERVICE REPLACEMENTS TO
ADDRESS THEIR COMPLEX NEEDS.
CARRIES ARE WILLING TO PAY WHAT
IT TAKES TO ENSURE THESE
CHILDREN'S EARNED SERVICE RICH
APPROPRIATE PLACEMENTS BUT
THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH
TO GO AROUND. WE NEED A REAL
SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THIS VERY
REAL CRISIS BUT UNFORTUNATELY
THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE NOT FOUND IN
THE CURRENT VERSION OF AB FOUR
TWENTY SIX AND FOR THOSE REASONS
WE OPPOSE. RT THANK YOU. OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION. THIS IS YOUR
MEMBERS MARTHA GUERRERO
REPRESENTING THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE
OPPOSITION TO- THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER- WE HAVE A PROCESS AND
SO. WE JUST SUBMITTED THE LETTER
TODAY BUT- WE ALSO IN
OPPOSITION. RT THANK YOU ANYONE
ELSE IN OPPOSITION AB FOR TWENTY
SIX SEEING NO ONE ELSE. BROOCH
IN MY FILMS TO THE PHONE LINE.
MODERATE PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE
WHO WERE IN SUPPORT OPPOSITION
AB FOR TWENTY SIX. OF COURSE
PLAYS IN GERMANY WISHES BECAUSE
OR OR OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS
ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO LINE TO THIRTY
EIGHT. WE HAD. THANK YOU
MEDICARE MEMBERS GENE HERC
CALLING IN TODAY AND WE HAVE TO
BE URBAN COUNTY THE CALIFORNIA
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.
A LINE FOUR OH ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON OUR
FAVORITE PAYCHECKS FROM CREE
CITED HE'D ON BEHALF OF
SACRAMENTO COUNTY IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT TO
ALIGN THREE NINETY EIGHT PLEASE
GO AHEAD. YOU CAN GET WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU. AND THERE'S CURRENTLY
NO ONE ELSE QUEUED UP AT THIS
TIME. ALL RIGHT LET'S REBEKAH
COMMITTEE. QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEEING BOTH
CENTENNIAL QUESTIONS COME. OKAY
WE'LL START WAS THAT. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR- I'VE WASN'T HERE
WHEN YOU PRESENTED A BILL ON AT
PAULA JONES FOR THAT I'M JUMPING
BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN. TWO
COMMITTEES IT'S OH SO MUCH FUN-
BUT- I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
READING THE BILL AND SO I.
PRETTY SURE I UNDERSTAND- THE
PROPOSAL. YOUR SOLUTION SEEMS TO
ASSUME. THAT THERE ARE SOLUTIONS
. TO THE FACILITIES PROBLEM.
THAT IS TO SAY THAT THERE'S
BEEN- CRITICISM OF. SOME OF THE
FACILITIES USED PARTICULARLY FOR
SOME OF THE MORE CHALLENGED
FOSTER YOUTH. AND IN. MY REVIEW
OF THE SITUATION AT LEAST AND SO
FAR SACRAMENTO COUNTY IS
CONCERNED. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS
SHORTAGE OF- SUITABLE FACILITIES
AND THEY HAVE TO DO WHATEVER
THEY HAVE TO DO. AND AS I SAID
YOUR BILL SEEMS TO ASSUME THAT
THAT SOLUTION IS THERE AND ALL
WE NEED TO DO IS THREATENED WITH
FINES AND THEY'LL FIND. I HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT BEYOND
THAT THE SOLUTION EVENTUALLY IS
THAT THE STATE TAKES THE
OPERATION OVER. NOW I'D LIKE TO
KNOW WHERE IN THE STATE IS THE
EXPERTISE. IN DEALING WITH THESE
VERY DIFFICULT FOSTER USE THAT
LOCAL COUNTIES DO NOT HAVE. THE
STATE DOESN'T DO THAT. SO THAT
SOLUTION SEEMS TO ME TO BE ONE
THAT WILL LEAD TO. GREATER
DISSERVICE. TO THE FOSTER
CHILDREN POPULATION THAT YOU'RE
ATTEMPTING TO HELP. THANK YOU UP
THROUGH THE CHAIR SIR OKAY. TWO
THINGS. I ACTUALLY DO ASSUME
THAT THERE'S MORE APPROPRIATE
PLACES- THAT THE COUNTIES CAN
PUT THEM AND WHEN- COUNTIES-
WERE FACED WITH POSSIBLE
PENALTIES. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE
FOUND A MORE SUITABLE PLACES I
THINK WHAT THE CONVOLUTION OF
THE ISSUE IS- IS THE ISSUE. THAT
OF THE OPPONENTS BRING UP WHICH
IS NOT EVEN THE ISSUE THAT I'M
EVEN TRYING TO SOLVE IN THE
FIRST PLACE. I THINK AT THE END
OF THE DAY- COUNTIES DO YOU HAVE
CHOICES- THEY CAN EITHER PUT
THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO SLEEP ON
THE FLOOR OF THEIR OFFICES. OR
THEY CAN PUT THEM IN A HOTEL
ROOM. OPTION THEY CAN PUT THEM
IN A DETENTION CENTER OR THEY
CAN EVEN PUT THEM IN THERE
AIRBNB AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
COUNTIES HAVE DONE. AND SO THE
QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER IS A
FACILITY IS LICENSED OR NOT. THE
QUESTION IS THE FACILITY WHERE
THE LOCATION HUMANE OR NOT. AND
SPECIFICALLY THIS BILL. IS ONLY
INTENDED TO ENSURE BACK COUNTIES
ONLY PUT CHILDREN IN HUMANE
SETTINGS. OPPOSITION CONTINUES
TO RAISE THE ISSUE THAT THE
STATE DOESN'T RECOGNIZE ONLY
RECOGNIZE AS LICENSED AND
UNLICENSED. AS CHAIR OF THE
HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE I CAN
JUST TELL YOU THAT IS SIMPLY NOT
TRUE I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH
THEM. AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE
DIRE SITUATION THAT COUNTIES ARE
IN. AND THEY EVEN RECOGNIZE
THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH LICENSED
FACILITIES. BUT IF YOU HAVE H.
BUT THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS THAT.
ARE CONSIDERED I'M LICENSE. BUT
THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE
MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH IN TERMS
OF DEALING WITH THAT- AND SO
ONCE AGAIN. THIS BILL HE WAS-
ACTUALLY WAS A GUT AND AMEND. A
ONCE WE RECOGNIZE THE SEVERITY
OF THE ISSUE- THIS BILL HAS
NEVER BEEN INTENDED TO SOLVE THE
ENTIRETY OF THE ISSUE. BUT I
HAVE COMMITTED A MEASURE OF
HUMAN SERVICES ON THE ASSEMBLY
SITE TO BEGIN TO WORK ON A
COMPREHENSIVE BILL THAT THE
LEGISLATURE CAN BEGAN. TO DEBATE
ON NEXT YEAR IN THE MEANTIME. I
AM IT IS MY HOPE THAT WHILE WE
ARE IN THE CARE OF THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE- THAT NONE OF THEM NONE
OF US WANT TO GIVE COUNTIES THE
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKING SURE THAT
THEY'RE SLEEPING ON FLOORS. I IN
OFFICE SPACES. THANK YOU CENTER
NEIL JUST GRABBED UP A FOLLOW UP
SO IF YOU A KNOWLEDGE THE
SHORTAGE OF LICENSED FACILITY
ABSOLUTELY AND THEREFORE
ALTERNATIVES TO THAT ARE EITHER-
ACCEPTABLE OR NOT ACCEPTABLE
BASED UPON. SOME SUBJECTIVE
ASSESSMENT EITHER DEFINED BY
YOUR BILL OR BY THE STATE WOULD
SEEM TO ME. IT WOULD MAKE MUCH
MORE SENSE FOR THE STATE TO WORK
WITH THE COUNTIES. BUT TO TRY TO
FIGURE THAT OUT BUT BEYOND THAT
. IF THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION. OF
IF THE COUNTY IS NOT- COMPLYING
WITH WHAT THE STATE WANTS
ACCORDING TO YOUR LEGISLATION.
THE STATE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER
THE CARE OF. THESE FOSTER USE
WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME HOW
THAT WOULD WORK SINCE THE STATE
REALLY HAS NO EXPERTISE ON THE
GROUND EXPERTISE LIKE COUNTIES
DO HOW WOULD THAT WORK. WELL
NUMBER ONE- THE- WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE STATE TAKING OVER WHAT
WE REALLY MEAN IS THAT THEY WILL
TAKE OVER THE CONTROL OF THAT
DEPARTMENT AND WORK WITH THE
STAFF TO ENSURE THAT ALL.
POSSIBLE OPTIONS ARE BEING TAKEN
CARE OF- IT IS UNFORTUNATELY
THAT I HAVE TO SAY. THAT THERE
ARE SOME COUNTIES WHO ACTUALLY
HAVE JUST REFUSED TO WORK WITH
THE STATE- AND- THEY HAVE EVEN
REFUSED TO ACCEPT TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE. SOME
HAVE NOT EVEN UTILIZE THE EXTRA
FUNDING THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR
SPECIFIC CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES-
IN REGARDS TO- ASSISTING
COUNTIES WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS
TO CREATE MORE OPTIONS AS WELL.
AND SO- THIS IS NOT ABOUT ONE
PARTICULAR COUNTY- THIS IS I WAS
LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT
SITUATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AND ONCE AGAIN ALL WE'RE TRYING
TO DO WITH THIS BILL IS MAKING
SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT SLEEPING-
IN DETENTION CENTERS OR IN
OFFICE SPACES. ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT- QUIT
CENTER S. B. THANKS ASSEMBLY
REJECTION YOU GET MY AWARD FOR
THE A PERSON I TRIED THE HARDEST
TO GET A HOLD OF YOU ALSO TRYING
VERY HARD TO GET BACK. WITH I
DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAG. BACK IN
BUT A PLUS FOR EFFORT I THINK
FOR BOTH OF US. AND I WANTED
DESPERATELY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
THIS BEFORE WE GOT HERE I KNOW
YOU KNOW THAT IS SINCERE BECAUSE
WE REALLY TRIED YEAH. OBVIOUSLY
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED
EVEN SINCE THEN IS THAT MY
COUNTY HAS HAS COME IN OPPOSED
TO AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SO HAS THE
SECOND. AND SEVERAL OTHER
COUNTIES. BUT LET ME JUST SAY
WHAT I APPRECIATE REALLY A LOT
ABOUT YOU AND I THINK THERE ARE
A COUPLE OTHER LEGISLATORS WHO
ARE DOING THIS THERE IT I THINK
MYSELF INCLUDED WERE TRYING TO
WALK INTO THIS SPACE. AS NOT A
VERY POPULAR SPACE WALK INTO
BECAUSE NONE OF THE SOLUTIONS
ARE EASY OR SUPER CLEAR. AND
THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT WERE
MADE WAY BEFORE WE GOT HERE.
THAT ARE HAVING A RIPPLE EFFECT
IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE DON'T
LIKE. AND I AGREE WITH YOU
WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON THE THINGS
THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AND I ALSO
GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU YOU
WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TODAY- TO
NOT MENTION SACRAMENTO COUNTY
PARTICULARLY- AND I APPRECIATE
THAT BUT I KNOW IT'S ALSO AN
EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT- IN THE SENSE THAT THEY
USED A FACILITY THAT YOU DON'T.
YOU DON'T THINK WAS APPROPRIATE
LET ME TELL YOU I DID GO VISIT
THAT FACILITY. AND THERE WERE A
LOT OF WORDS USED TO DESCRIBE IT
THAT I'M NOT SURE WERE REALLY
FAIR WORDS ARE THERE BETTER
PLACES YES. WAS IT. JAIL LIKE
NO. BUT I'M- I THINK THE PROBLEM
I HAVE WITH THE BILL AND THAT'S
WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND I
THINK THE PROBLEM YOU'RE HEARING
COMING FROM- THE OPPONENTS IS
THAT. IT'S PUNITIVE WITHOUT A
SOLUTION. AND I KNOW YOU WELL
ENOUGH NOW TO KNOW YOU REALLY
WANT TO GET TO THE SOLUTION AND
THAT IS YOUR GOAL. THAT IS MINE
AS WELL. AND I. THE PROBLEM IS
WE SET UP THIS MODEL WITH THE S.
T. R. T. PEACE. AND THE STR T.
P.'S DO NOT WORK WELL FOR GROUP
CARE. AND ONLY ONE COUNTY. ABLE
TO SET UP AN S. T. R. T. P. OF
ONE IT WAS SAN FRANCISCO. WHICH
IF YOU EVER COME TO A CENTER
PORTANTINO'S APPROACH COMMITTEE
WOULD HE DOES TRIVIA AND ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU WOULD HAVE
LEARNED IS THAT THERE ARE MORE
DOGS. THAN CHILDREN IN SAN
FRANCISCO COUNTY SO THE AMOUNT
OF MONEY THAT THEY HAVE TO SERVE
KIDS IS NOT LIKE OTHER COUNTIES.
AND SO. PROPPING UP IN S. T. R.
T. P. FOR ONE IS NOT A PRACTICAL
SOLUTION FOR HOW WE DEAL WITH
THE KIDS. THAT WE INTAKE AND NOT
HAVING ANY TYPE OF GROUP HOME
SETTING WHICH IS WHAT THIS
LEGISLATURE ELIMINATED WHICH IS
FINE. HAS LEFT A VOID FOR WHERE
WE SERVE THESE KIDS FIRST OF ALL
THE KIDS THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY
BRINGING IN AND DON'T HAVE A
PLACE TO PUT. AND SECOND OF ALL
KIDS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO PLACE
IN A FOSTER HOME OR IN A FOSTER
CARE SETTING. AND I'VE BEEN IN
MY COUNTY AROUND TO VISIT OUR
RECEIVING HOME AT SEVERAL OF OUR
CARE PROVIDERS. AND I'VE WORKED
VERY CLOSELY WITH C. W. D. A.
SINCE I GOT HERE. AND THAT IT'S
AN AREA THAT I HAVE. QUITE A BIT
OF EXPERTISE AND I WORKED IN A
CONSULTING. CAPACITY ON THIS
WITH MY FATHER WHO WAS A TROUBLE
FOR DIRECTOR. FOR SAN DIEGO
COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS. AND I
THINK WHAT'S FRUSTRATING TO THE
COUNTIES THE THROUGH LINE FOR
THEM THAT THEY WANT FROM US IS.
I THINK. THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY
PROBABLY OPPOSE YOUR BILL. IF
BEFORE YOUR BILL A DIFFERENT
BILL HAD PASSED THEY GAVE THEM A
WAY TO SOLVE FOR YOUR BILL.
BECAUSE ABSENT HAVING HOTELS
ABSENT TRYING TO FIND A CARE
FACILITY OR USING THEIR OFFICES.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT
THE KIDS. THEY CAN USE THOSE
THINGS BUT THEN. IF WE SAY THOSE
THINGS ARE IN HUMANE AND I DON'T
DISAGREE WITH YOU IN MANY
INSTANCES I THINK THEY ARE AND
THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT
SATISFACTORY. BUT NO ONE'S
SAYING THEY ARE WHAT IS THE
ALTERNATIVE THEN. WHAT ARE WE
GIVING THEM. TO SOLVE FOR THIS
OTHER THAN A FINE OR A FEE. AND
SO. AT THAT I THINK IS THE
PRIMARY ISSUE FOR ME AND WHAT
I'M HEARING. FROM THESE COUNTY
PROVIDERS AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH
THE CHAIR I I'D LIKE TO ASK
AMANDA FROM THE TROUBLE FOR
DIRECTORS. OR THE COUNTY WELFARE
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION A QUICK
QUESTION. THAT BEYOND THEIR-
DONALD GOOD OR NOT BUT DO YOU
AHEAD. RIGHT I'LL BE GREAT
SEASON. RIGHT BUT CAN YOU JUST.
AND I KNOW YOU WORKED REALLY
HARD ON THIS ISSUE FOR ALL OF
THE COUNTIES CAN YOU TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT. THAT WHAT WE
COULD DO THAT WOULD. MAKE IT
EASIER FOR THE COUNTIES TO
ACTUALLY BE RESPONSIVE. TO
ASSEMBLY MEMBER JACKSON TRYING
TO ACHIEVE HERE WHICH IS REALLY
PUTTING KIDS IN SAFER SPACES.
HIS HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE
WHAT CAN WE DO. ABSOLUTELY SO
UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE CURRENT
SHORTAGE WE HAVE AS YOUR TV
PLACEMENTS AND FAMILY BASED
PLACEMENTS. WE JUST DON'T HAVE
APPROPRIATE TREATMENT OPTIONS
THOSE ARE ONLY LICENSED OPTIONS.
AND IN CALIFORNIA UNDER THE LAW.
ANYTHING THAT IS NOT LICENSED IS
AN UNLICENSED PLACEMENT AND
WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT THE
KIDS THERE WHETHER IT'S A HOTEL
OR AN AIRBNB. NO MATTER HOW MUCH
BETTER THAT MIGHT BE THAN OTHER
FACILITIES. ALL OF ITS
UNLICENSED AND WE CAN BE FINED
IMMEDIATELY UNDER THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY CODE FOR THAT. SO WHAT WE
DO IS WE TRY AND FIND THE LEAST
WORST BAD OPTION RIGHT. FOR US
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE
NEED FLEXIBILITY ABOUT WHEN AND
WHERE WE CAN PUT THE KIDS. WE
NEED TO WORK ON OUR S. HERE T.
P. CAPACITY WE HAVE LOST A
THOUSAND BEDS IN THE LAST YEAR.
THAT IS JUST DEVASTATING FOR
SOME OF OUR COUNTIES ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE WITH IN THAT AS HERE TO
BE POPULATION. WE ESTIMATE THAT
30% OF THOSE EXISTING
PLACEMENTS. ACTUALLY GO TO NON
FOSTER YOU. THEY GO TO KIDS WERE
PLACED THERE BY EDUCATION THEY
GO TO KIDS WHO ARE PLACED THERE
BY REGIONAL CENTERS OR FOR
PRIVATE PAY OR PRIVATE
INSURANCE. SO OUR OPTION TO USE
NEST HERE TO BE IS ACTUALLY EVEN
SMALLER. THAN THE BEDS THAT
WE'VE GOT BECAUSE WERE LOSING
ABOUT 30% OF THOSE. SO FOR US WE
NEED FLEXIBILITY AROUND THAT WE
ALSO KNOW THAT THE US HERE TO.
CAN REJECT OR E. JACKSON OVER
KIDS WHEN THEY'RE REALLY REALLY
COMPLEX NEEDS OR HAVE SORT OF
CROSS CUTTING ISSUES. SO TO THE
EXTENT THAT NEST HERE TO BE YOU
CAN JUST SAY NO. THAT'S WHEN
WE'RE LEFT SCRAMBLING AND NOT
HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO
WHAT WE CAN. SO WITH VERY
LIMITED OPTIONS WHAT ENDS UP
DISEASE REALLY UNFORTUNATE
SITUATIONS WHERE KIDS ARE
SLEEPING IN CONFERENCE ROOMS OR
WE PUT THEM IN A HOTEL OR WE
KEEP BOUNCING THEM AROUND TRYING
TO FIND SOME. RANDOM BUT STABLE
AND ALL IT DOES IS RE TRAUMATIZE
THE CHILDREN. SO FOR US WE NEED
FLEXIBILITY AROUND THE WAIVERS
WE NEED TO MOVEMENT AROUND AS
HERE T. P.'S WE NEED MONEY TO
BUILD OUT CAPACITY. ALL OF THAT
COULD HAPPEN RIGHT NOW WHERE WE
CAN GIVE AN INFLUX OF MONEY TO
OUR PROVIDERS. TO HELP THEM
START BUILDING OUT. BUT BASS IS
NOT WHAT THIS THIS BILL IS
OFFERING PRICE I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE
YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND- JUST
MY TWO CENTS IS I THINK ASSEMBLY
MEMBER JACKSON IS GOING TO BE
ONE OF THE KEY PARTNERS IN
ACHIEVING ALL OF THE GOALS THAT
YOU JUST. STATED IN THE YEARS
BEFORE AND I'M COUNTING ON IT.
I'M I'M SORT OF ENVISIONING US
NEXT YEAR TAKING THIS ON
TOGETHER I TRIED THIS YEAR TO
YOU. AND MY BILL WHICH YOU KNOW
IT WAS STRIPPED IN HALF AS WELL.
AND STILL DIDN'T COME FOR WITHIN
A SOLUTION FOR S. T. R. T. P. SO
INTEL WE- WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO
TRY AGAIN. FOR SOMETHING. THAT
PROVIDES FOR THESE KIDDOS BUT
INTO WE COME UP WITH THAT. IN
FOR OF THIS PIECE. I'M IN A
LAYOFF OF YOUR BILL LOS BECAUSE
MY COUNTY. SENT ME A LETTER
ABOUT IT. I AM LOOKING VERY MUCH
FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS ISSUE
WITH YOU IN THE YEARS TO COME I
THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE. ONE OF
THE LEADERS AND I APPRECIATE
THAT YOU'RE WALKING IN THAT
SPACE. THE THANK YOU- DO YOU
WANT TO RESPOND THAT YOU'RE
CLOSE. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. NO OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IS THERE
MOTION. ALL RIGHT- THERE DOESN'T
APPEAR TO BE A MOTION. SO ALL.
OF ONE WE DO THIS- WHY DON'T WE-
HOLD THIS BILL IN ABEYANCE
THERE'S NO MOTION WILL CONTINUE
THIS HEARING. RIGHT OKAY. OF
UNTIL LATER ON WILL BE HERE FOR
A WHILE SO. HE RIGHT RIGHT
RIGHT- YOU YOU PROBABLY DON'T
WANNA LEAVE THE BUILDING BUT
WILL BE HERE FOR AWHILE. FOR THE
RECORD. HE SAT HERE FOR AN HOUR
. WHY DO YOU BE REJECT AUTHOR
JUST. DIDN'T FRONT. I PRAY. YOUR
PATIENCE YOU VERY MUCH- ALL
RIGHT LET'S DO IT LET'S DO THAT.
OKAY ALL RIGHT. OKAY ALL RIGHT.
ALL I SEE IS THE ONLY MEMBER
LOWENTHAL HAS BEEN HERE HE-
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
WEARING THE MOST COLORFUL SOCKS
OF. ANY ATTENDEE TODAY. SO HOW
DO YOU. I'VE BECAUSE I GET TO
SEE SOCKS IS THAT IS WORTH AT
LEAST TALK TO NICHOLAS. RIGHT
RIGHT. SO ALL RIGHT- SIMILAR
LOAN FOR THE FLOOR IS YOURS
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
SENATORS. VERY PLEASED TO
PRESENT AB FOURTEEN SIXTY THREE
AND I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY
TAKING THE AMENDMENTS AS
RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE AND
THANK THEM FOR THEIR WORK. IN
TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN THE
CALIFORNIA STATE AUDITOR TO
CLEAR THAT LEGISLATIVE ACTION IS
NEEDED. AND NECESSARY TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA'S PRIVACY RIGHTS AND
HAD SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS
HOWEVER. IN THREE YEARS NOTHING
HAS HAPPENED. AND NOW WITH OTHER
STATES PROPOSING LAWS THAT ARE
NOW FOCUSED ON OUT OF STATE
VISITORS SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE
AND GENDER AFFIRMING MEDICAL
CARE. IT IS VITAL THAT WE
IMPLEMENT PRIVACY MATTERS
REGARDING AUTOMATIC LICENSE
PLATE READERS FOR. LPARS AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY THREE DOES THREE
THINGS TO ENSURE PRIVACY FOR
EVERYONE NUMBER ONE. REQUIRES
PUBLIC AGENCIES OPERATING LPARS
TO PERFORM AN ANNUAL COMPLIANCE
AUDIT AS RECOMMENDED BY THE
STATE HONOR. NUMBER TWO. PURGES
DEAL OCCASION DATA NOT
ASSOCIATED WITH THE
INVESTIGATION OF ANY CRIME AFTER
THIRTY DAYS WHY THIRTY DAYS.
THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY THE
STATE'S LEADING ALE PR SUPPLIER
FLOCK SAFETY SUPPLYING TO OVER A
THOUSAND COMMUNITIES. AND IN
LINE WITH CALIFORNIA'S STATE
AUDITOR RECOMMENDATION TO LIMIT
RETENTION TO THE SHORTEST
POSSIBLE TIME. NUMBER THREE
FORBIDS THE SHARING OF
GEOLOCATION DATA WITHOUT OF
STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES
WITHOUT A VALID COURT ORDER
SUBPOENA OR WARRANT. HELP YOU
LPARS ARE JUST ONE OF THE MOST
POWERFUL SURVEILLANCE TOOLS THAT
OUT OF STATE POLICE AND ANTI
ABORTION GROUPS HAVE AVAILABLE
TO THEM AND ARE USING THEM.
THERE IS NO UNIFORM ORDINANCE
RULE FOR HOW LONG AND FORSMAN
CAN KEEP. FOR HOW LONG LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAN KEEP THIS DATA
RIGHT NOW HERE IN THE STATE AND-
ARE UP. I DEPARTMENTS ARE RANGE
FROM FOURTEEN KEEPING THEM FOR
FOURTEEN DAYS. ARE FOR AS LONG
AS THEY WANT. I'M WORK OPEN TO
WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ON
ON HONING IN ON A TIME BUT SO
FAR NO ONE HAS COME TO THE TABLE
OFFERING A TIMELINE. AN EXAMPLE
OF HOW DANGEROUS IT IS OUT THERE
FOR PEOPLE SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE
CARE. THE STATE OF SOUTH
CAROLINA INTRODUCED LEGISLATION
THAT COULD SUBJECT WOMEN WHO
HAVE ABORTIONS TO THE DEATH
PENALTY. AND FOR THOSE WHO THINK
THAT NO AGENCY IN CALIFORNIA
WHICH SHARE THE DATA WITH STATES
LIKE THESE. IN JANUARY OF THIS
YEAR WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE
VALLEJO POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS
ACTS ALLOWING ACCESS. TO OUT OF
STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
AND JUST LAST WEEK IT WAS
DISCOVERED BY THE SACRAMENTO
COUNTY SHERIFF. WAS SHARING DATA
WITH STATES HOSTILE TO WOMEN
SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE CARE IN
LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITIES. WE MUST
PROTECT CALIFORNIANS IN THOSE
OUT OF STATE RESIDENTS. SEEKING
REPRODUCTIVE AND GENDER
AFFIRMING MEDICAL CARE IN
CALIFORNIA WITH ME TODAY IS
TRACY ROSENBERG WITH OAKLAND
PRIVACY. THANK YOU FLOWS YEARS
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS I WILL TRY TO BE
BRIEF BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A
LONG HEARING I'M WITH OPEN
PRIVACY A CITIZENS GROUP THAT
ADVOCATES. FOR THE REGULATION OF
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES WITH
RESPECT FOR PRIVACY AND CIVIL
RIGHTS. JUST GOT A LITTLE
BACKGROUND AND THEN AND THEN TWO
QUICK POINTS IN TWENTY NINETEEN
THEN PRIVACY CARE AND CHAO
BROUGHT AB SEVENTEEN. EIGHTY TWO
TO LIMIT THE RETENTION OF.
LICENSE PLATE READERS CANCEL HAD
NO CONNECTION WITH ANY CRIME TO
SIXTY DAYS. THAT BILL PASSED THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE EIGHT TO ONE
THAT PRIVACY. THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE NONCHALANTLY PRIVACY
COMMITTEE EIGHT TO ONE AND THE
ASSEMBLY FLOOR IT WAS HELD HERE
IN THIS. COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE
JAIL ACT AUTHORIZED THE AUDIT
STARTED BY. SENATOR WIENER WHO
WILL BE HERE SHORTLY. AND I WANT
TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT AUDIT WE
WHICH CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY OF
TWENTY TWENTY. THE PROGRAM IS
CURRENTLY OPERATED IN CALIFORNIA
IN CALIFORNIA THREATENS THE
PRIVACY RIGHTS OF CALIFORNIANS
AND THAT. STANDS NOT OF ANY
INTEREST IN ANY CRIME SHOULD BE
RETAINED FOR THE SHORTEST
POSSIBLE TIME. SO TWO QUICK
POINTS. L. AS A FAMILY MEMBER
GLOWING DAHLE SAID WE DID NOT
PICK THE- THIRTY DAY RETENTION
PERIOD IN THE BILL. OUT OF A HOT
IT IS THE DEFAULT RECOMMENDATION
OF THE LARGEST MANUFACTURER OF
THE PRODUCTS WHO SELLS THEM TO
POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAS TWO
HUNDRED. CLIENTS IN CALIFORNIA
RIGHT NOW. SECONDLY WITH REGARD
TO THAT SACRAMENTO BEE ARTICLE I
JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT
SEVENTY ONE AGENCIES IN
CALIFORNIA WASN'T JOSH THE
SACRAMENTO COUNTY ALTHOUGH
THAT'S WHEN THEY- CAME OUT
THAT'S A GOOD CHUNK OF ALL THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT WE
HAVE. AND THEY ARE LETTING THEIR
DATABASES BE QUERY. BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN STATES
THAT CURRENTLY HAVE REPRODUCTIVE
AND GENDER CARAVANSERAI IT IS
NECESSARY THAT WE CLARIFY
CURRENT LAW NOW. AB FOURTEEN
SIXTY THREE ALLOWS TO SHARING OF
. COURT AND THEY GET A WARRANT.
SO FEDERAL KIDNAPPING. YOU CAN
GET A WARRANT. ABORTION GENDER
CARE YOU CAN'T WE CANNOT
CONTINUE WITH THE MODEL STATUS
QUO AND CALL OURSELVES A-
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM STATE SO
PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE BILL AND
THANKS. REALLY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OTHERS IS SUPPORT A. B.
FOURTEEN- OF SIXTY THREE. YES
GOOD AFTERNOON WITH THE CHAIRS
FROM MISSION MAY READ A BRIEF
STATEMENT ALSO IN SUPPORT YES
THANK YOU DANNY CANNOT HIGHS ARE
ON BEHALF OF THE ELECTRONIC
FRONTIER FOUNDATION. IF OF HAS
REPEATEDLY RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT
LPR TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE IT CAN
REVEAL SENSITIVE INFORMATION
ABOUT ALL DRIVERS REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER THEY ARE SUSPECTED OR OF
CONNECTION IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
THESE CAMERA SYSTEMS COLLECT AND
STORE LOCATION INFORMATION ABOUT
DRIVERS INCLUDING DATES TIMES
AND LOCATIONS THIS SENSITIVE
INFORMATION CAN REVEAL WHERE
INDIVIDUALS WORK LIVE ASSOCIATE
WORSHIP OR SECRET REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTH SERVICES AS PREVIOUSLY
STATED- THE BILL WOULD ADDRESS
SEVERAL ISSUES WITH LPR
TECHNOLOGY INCLUDING CREATING A
THIRTY DAY RETENTION LIMIT ON
ANY SCANS THAT HAVE NO
EVIDENTIARY VALUE IN AND OF. IN
THE INVESTIGATION OF A CRIME. I
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE BY
DEFAULT ALE PR IS COLLECTED ON
EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER
YOU HAVE A CONNECTION TO A
CRIME. IN FACT EFF'S OWN
RESEARCH FOUND THE AGENCIES
COLLECT IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF DATA
ON DRIVERS. BUT FAR LESS THAN 1%
OF THOSE LICENSE PLATES ARE PART
OF AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION.
THESE DATA TROVES POSE A THREAT
TO EVERYONE'S PRIVACY. EARLIER
THIS YEAR E. F. F. ALONG WITH
ACLU NOR CAL AND ACLU SOCAL
FOUND THAT SEVENTY ONE LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN
CALIFORNIA. I INCLUDING
SACRAMENTO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
WE'RE SHARING THIS DATA AS MY
COLLEAGUE ALREADY STATED. ON THE
PEOPLE CALIFORNIA NEEDS STRONGER
GUARDRAILS ON LAW ENFORCEMENT
USE OF LPR DATA. A NEW RULES TO
PROTECT THEM FROM UNNECESSARY
INVASIVE DATA COLLECTION AND USE
AND PROTECTION FROM HAVING THAT
INFORMATION RETAINED. FOR NO
REASON OF FOR ALL OF THESE
REASONS WE URGE HERE I THOUGHT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OF HIS SUPPORT OF AB FOURTEEN
SIX THREE PLEASE APPROACH. JADI
WITH QUICKEN TECH AND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE
SAYING NO ONE ELSE APPROACH TO
MY FULLEST TO THE OPPOSITION OF
YOUR OPPOSED AB FORTY SIXTY
THREE PLEASE APPROACH MICROPHONE
. THANKS OUR MEMBERS JONATHAN
FILLED WITH THE CALIFORNIA
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION I
FIRST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE
COMMITTEE AND THE AUTHOR THAT
ARE LETTER WASN'T SUBMITTED- TO
THE COMMITTEE'S RULES TO BE
REFLECTED IN THE ANALYSIS BUT AS
I'VE- COMMUNICATED THE AUTHOR.
SINCE MAY WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE
BILL- AND CONTINUE TO DO SO
ALTHOUGH WE- WE HOPE THAT WE CAN
CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS
AND KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF
THESE TOUGH ISSUES. I BEFORE I
GET INTO THE TOP ISSUES ON A
HIGHLY REALLY QUICKLY AND
EMPHASIZE HOW CRITICAL THIS IS A
LAW ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC SAFETY
TOOL. NOT JUST FOR INVESTIGATING
AND SOLVING CRIMES PREVENTING
AND DETERRING CRIMES. LEADING-
REASON TO DETER CRIME IS THE
LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING CAUGHT ON
CAMERAS ARE GREAT AT DOING THAT-
AND ALSO EXONERATING AND
CONFIRMING ALIBIS AND MAKING
SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN
THAT LOCATION. I CAN PROVE THERE
IN A SEPARATE LOCATION AT THE
TIME OF BROWN'S COMMITTED. AS
ANOTHER IMPORTANT ASSET THAT THE
TOOLS PROVIDE. REALLY QUICKLY ON
THE ON THE THIRTY DAYS- YES ONE
OF THE LEADING MANUFACTURER DOES
RECOMMEND THIRTY BUT THEY ALLOW
FOR LONGER. PERIODS OF STORAGE
IF YOU PURCHASE. MORE STURDY
STORAGE SPACE. SO IT IS JUST A
MINIMUM STARTING REQUIREMENT YOU
CAN PURCHASE MORE- AS LONG AS
YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPROVES.
POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR SUCH- YOU
KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO COME
UP WITH A DATE TO PROVIDE YOU
BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE FIVE HUNDRED
PLUS DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES. POLICE AND SHERIFF
DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS ONE
IT'S TOUGH- SO WE ARE STILL
WORKING TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE
THINK WOULD BE A GOOD STANDARD.
UNIFORM DATE THAT WE CAN START
THOSE DISCUSSIONS AN OVERLY IN
THE YEAR- BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT
WE'RE GONNA GET CLOSE TO THAT-
ANSWER. THIS WEEK AND CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS DURING THE RECESS.
AS FAR AS SHARING INFORMATION
GOES- I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
DEBATE AROUND WHAT CURRENT LAW
ALLOWS AND DOESN'T ALLOW. I
WORKED ON SB FIFTY FOUR THE
SANCTUARY STATE LAW I KNOW THERE
ARE STRICT PROHIBITIONS AGAINST
SHARING INFORMATION WHEN IT
COMES TO IMMIGRATION. THOSE ARE
ON THE BOOKS THERE ARE LAWS THAT
WERE PASSED RECENTLY RUN
SHARING. ANYTHING RELATED TO
ABORT ABORTION INVESTIGATION
THOSE ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT
APPLIES. I THINK THAT THERE'S A
DISAGREEMENT IN THE READING OF
THE LAW AROUND ALE PR. AND I
THINK THERE'S A DISAGREEMENT IN-
INTERPRETATION THAT THANK YOU
MISTER FELD YES YOU'D WRAP UP I
WILL- ANY LOCATION SHARING COULD
POTENTIALLY LEAD TO PINPOINT
SOMEBODY TO SPECIFIC SENSITIVE
LOCATION AND THEREFORE WE CAN'T
SHARE ANY OF IT IF THAT'S THE
INTERPRETATION. THEN WE HAVE TO
STOP ALL DATA SHARING THE LOCAL
RIGHT ANYBODY IN THE SAME AS IN
YOUR POST YES THEY ARE WE ARE
OPPOSE YOU APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR
AND ART FOR LIKE YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS YOUR MEMBERS COURCELLES
ALONG BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL- IN ORDER
TO AVOID. BEING REPETITIVE I
WILL JUST SAY THAT. AGAIN LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE
STATE NATION OF USED LPR
SYSTEMS. TO SOLVE CRIMES AND
APPREHEND CRIMINAL SUSPECTS THEY
CONTINUE TO DO SO TODAY- SOME
CASES RESOLVED QUICKLY USING
THIS. TECHNOLOGY CARGOS ON A HOT
LIST. THEY FIND IT THE NEXT DAY
. SOMETIMES THESE DATA ARE
USEFUL WHEN YOU SOLVE A COLD
CASE THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS
FROM NOW. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE
WITH PUTTING IN A TIME FRAME-
THAT IS SOME FINITE PERIOD OF
TIME. AT SOME POINT WE DON'T
KNOW WHEN THOSE DATA ARE GOING
TO BE HELPFUL FOR HELPING TO
SOLVE THE CRIME. AND TO SET THE
DATA DESTRUCTION TIMELINE
ESPECIALLY ONE OF SHORTEST
THIRTY DAYS- AND AGAIN WE'VE
WE'VE TRIED TO. TO FIGURE OUT IF
THERE CAN BE SOME. AGREEABLE
TIME LIMIT AND UNFORTUNATELY
JUST HAVEN'T. GOTTEN THERE- SO
FOR THE REASONS STATED
RESPECTFULLY POSSIBLE THANK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION FOURTEEN SIXTY THREE
MEDICARE MEMBERS BRANDON UP ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SHERIFF. AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. OTHERS
SEE NO ONE ELSE APPROACH TO
MICHAEL ESTRIN PHONE LINES AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY THREE MODERATOR
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION. LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN EXPERIENCE. OR
OPPOSITION OF EIGHTIES FOURTEEN
FIFTY THREE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
NOW AGAIN ONE AND THEN ZERO.
WELL FIRST GOAL TO LINE FOR TEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CLOSE THE DOOR
FROM THE HOUSE THE EFFECT HELD
AND- A LOT. THANK YOU. GIVE NEXT
. LINE FOR OH EIGHT PLEASE HAD.
SURE MEMBERS FROM RIVERS SHARE
THE- WITH HERTZBERG. ABOUT KENYA
BURBANK. CHRONICLE CITY FOR.
YEAH THE NEWPORT BEACH.
PALLISTER AMONG THE RIVERSIDE
SANTA ANA. ONE CALIFORNIA WILL
SERVE OF AND SHERIFFS THE C.
MODERATE. PLASTER COUNTY OWNERS
FOR. THANK YOU. AND AT THIS TIME
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE
. ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING IT BACK
TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS EARLIER. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- HE ISSUE I REALLY
RESPECT OF WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS
BILL AND I RESPECT THE TESTIMONY
FOR THE BASIS IN THE AUDITED AND
AS SOMEBODY THAT. SPENT MY
ENTIRE HOUSTON FLYOVER IN THE
BAREST ABOUT EVERY TIME THAT
THAT TO SOME OF THE ACTIONS OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE ARE
MENTIONED. I AM STRUGGLING WITH
THE THIRTY DAYS AND I AM
STRUGGLING WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS
JUST AREN'T CLAD AND THERE
CERTAIN TIMES I'M SORRY. OF LATE
AT NIGHT I WATCH LAW AND ORDER
AND SOME OF THESE THINGS AG. AND
SOME OF IT WHILE I'M READING
JUDICIARY PACKETS IF I'M NOT
ALREADY STUCK IN JUDICIARY AT
TEN O'CLOCK. ARM AND THE THING
IS YOU DON'T KNOW SOMETIMES THAT
YOU WILL NEED SOME OF THIS DATA
UNTIL AFTER THIRTY DAYS IT'S
PAST WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO
RECONSTRUCT A SCENE THAT YOU
MIGHT NOT HAVE FULLY UNDERSTOOD
AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED DURING
THE DAYS. RIGHT AFTER AND IT
SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NO
FLEXIBILITY IN THE THIRTY DAYS
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS. I
GET THAT 99% IF IT WOULD NOT BE
USEFUL THAT TIME. BUT YOU MIGHT
NOT KNOW THAT. AND SO THAT'S
WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH HEARING
COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT I
UNDERSTAND I HEARD IN THE
TESTIMONY WHY THIRTY DAYS WAS
PICKED AND WHERE OTHER. PLACES
HAVE USED IT- I THINK OTHER
PEOPLE HAVE THAT SO YOU SENATOR
I'M I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THE
QUESTION UP. BEEF BEFORE ANSWER
IN FULL I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT
THIS IS NOT AN EXISTENTIAL
CHOICE OF BEING. PRO POLICE PRO
LAW ENFORCEMENT OR NOT. I THINK
ALL OF US ARE PRO POLICE ALL OF
US WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
LAW ENFORCEMENT MEN AND WOMEN
HAVE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO
SOLVE CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
SOME OF US COME FROM THE
STANDPOINT. OF THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF FREEDOM OF
MOVEMENT AND FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY
. AND REALIZE THAT IF THERE WAS
COMPLETE AND TOTAL KNOWLEDGE BY
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OR OTHERS.
OF OUR WHEREABOUTS TWENTY FOUR
SEVEN. ALL THE TIME WE PROBABLY
SOLVE A LOT MORE CRIME THAN WE
DO TODAY. THE QUESTION IS DO WE
WANT TO GIVE UP THOSE INDIVIDUAL
LIBERTIES AS A RESULT. WHEN I
HAVE POSED THE QUESTION IN THE
PAST LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THIS
ISSUE. I'VE SAID LET'S BE DATA
DRIVEN ABOUT THIS. IF THIRTY
DAYS. IS INAPPROPRIATE. THEN
GIVE ME A DATA DRIVEN ANSWER. ON
WHAT HAPPENS IF WE EXTENDED TO
SIXTY DAYS TO NINETY DAYS A
HUNDRED DAYS TWO YEARS FIVE
YEARS. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF
VIOLENT CRIME GETS CUT DOWN AS A
RESULT I DON'T WANT ANECDOTAL
RESPONSES. DON'T WANT ANECDOTAL
RESPONSES ABOUT. HOW ABOUT X.
CRIME COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED IF
THEY HAD THE DATA. BECAUSE I
ALSO OF ANECDOTAL RESPONSES
ABOUT. HOW THAT DATA IS BEING
USED IN PEOPLE SEEKING
REPRODUCTIVE GENDER AFFIRMING
CARE IN THE IN IN CALIFORNIA.
AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION
WHATSOEVER. YOUR QUESTION
DESERVES A DATA DRIVEN ANSWER.
IF ALL THAT INFORMATION IS THERE
HOW MANY CASES TAKE THAT MUCH
TIME TO SOLVE AND IF UTILIZED
LPARS. LET'S IN AND WHAT WE'VE
HEARD IN THE MICROPHONE FROM MR
FELDMAN AND FROM COREY. IS THAT
IS VERY VERY DIFFICULT HURTING
THE VERY SO SEASONS ACROSS
STATE. WELL THEN LET'S JUST USE
A FEW OF THEM AS EXAMPLES. LET'S
FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE
USED LPR DATA TO SOLVE CRIMES
OVER X. OR Y. AMOUNT OF TIME AND
HOW MUCH CRIME HAS THAT BEEN HAS
BEEN REDUCED AS A RESULT. AND
LET'S USE THAT AS OUR GUIDING
LIGHT. I POSE THAT QUESTION
BECAUSE FOR ME FUNDAMENTALLY.
OUR DIGITAL FOOTPRINT IS PART OF
OUR OWN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
PART OF OUR OWN CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHT. MMHM ASK A FOLLOW UP
QUESTION. IS THIRTY DAYS DATA
DRIVEN. THIRTY DAYS IS NOT DATA
DRIVEN IT IS THE RECOMMENDED
AMOUNT BY FLOCK THAT'S PROVIDING
THIS TO OVER FOURTEEN HUNDRED.
COMMUNITIES IN THE UNITED STATES
RIGHT NOW. TO GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE OF THE VARIATION. THE
STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE ALLOWS
FOR ONLY THE DATA TO BE HELD FOR
THREE HOURS. SOME STATES HELP
HABIT FOR LESS THAN THIRTY DAYS
SOME FOR MORE ON THE REASON WE
CAME UP WITH THIRTY DAYS. WAS
SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FLOCK
IS RECOMMENDING MORE THAN LET ME
MAKE A COMMENT MISTER CHAIR
BECAUSE- I WOULD CHAIRED THIS
COMMITTEE FOR AWHILE THIS
MORNING I WAS ADMONISHING PEOPLE
ABOUT BEING IN A COLLOQUY SO I
WILL NOT. I HAVE TO DO IS
ALLOWING RELIGION USE YEAH YEAH
SO. MANY A COMMENT SO MAKING A
COMMENT. IT IS THAT THE THIRTY
DAYS ISN'T DRIVE DATA DRIVEN BUT
IF WE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE THINK
IT'S LONGER IT'S SUGGESTED THAT
THAT SHOULD BE DATA DRIVEN. AND
THERE WAS AN INITIAL RESPONSE
THAT. ARE ABOUT. ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT- SORRY WE'VE DONE THIS
SINCE NINE AM CONTINUES. THE OF
ABOUT THE RIGHTS. OF OUR PEOPLE
FOR THEIR- THEIR OWN. OF
PRIVACY. BUT THE PRIVACY UNDER
THIS BILL WAS WAIVED FOR THIRTY
DAYS AND SO THERE'S A PRECEDENT
FOR WAVING IT'S NOT DATA DRIVEN
FOR THIRTY DAYS AND THAT'S WHY I
AM STILL STRUGGLING WITH. WHY
THAT IS DON'T WANT. AND I'M NOT
SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT IS THIS
SOMETHING THAT YOU STILL ARE
GOING TO ENGAGE PEOPLE WITH AND
TALK ABOUT WHAT DO YOU THINK
THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO
LAND A HUNDRED PERCENT. MORE
THAN WHAT A HUNDRED PUSH I GAVE
YOU AN EITHER OR NEW ONE HUNDRED
PER FOR THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE
TO ENGAGE. WITH PEOPLE THAT
SPOKE AT THE MICROPHONE TODAY
AND OTHERS REPRESENTING LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
WITH THOSE V. IN THE SENATE
HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THIS WITH
ANYONE. IF WE IF WE START WITH
THE PREMISE THAT WE HAVE TO
GUARD THIS DATA. THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT WE WILLINGLY
THROW AROUND AND IT'S JUST MY
PERSONAL BELIEF AND FOUNDATIONAL
BELIEF. THAT DATA BELONGS TO THE
INDIVIDUAL IF WE'RE GIVING IT WE
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET
IT BACK. LET ME ASK THE CHAIR
QUESTION WHERE DOES THIS BILL GO
NEXT IF IT PASSES OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE. APPROPRIATIONS OKAY
WELL IT'S ONE THING TO SAY OF BE
HAPPY TO TALK TO IT'S ANOTHER
THING TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY
ENOUGH THAT WHEN WE SEE IT IN
OTHER FORMS WE KNOW THAT. IT HAS
BEEN STRONGLY CONSIDERED AN IT'S
A AND JUST AS STATEMENT- I
REALLY SHARED THE CIVIL
LIBERTIES RIGHT TO WERE ALREADY
BEING RATHER ARBITRARY ABOUT THE
THIRTY DAYS AND I JUST WORRY
ABOUT DATA GOING THE WAY THAT
MIGHT HELP SOLVE CRIMES AND SO.
I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO
ENGAGE AND I ACTUALLY WOULD
ENCOURAGE. THE AGENCIES THAT
TESTIFIED AGAINST IT TO BE MORE
THAN ANECDOTAL- TO MAYBE DAM
ALTHOUGH IT GOES BOTH WAYS I
MEAN WHAT HAPPENED IN THIRTY
DAYS TO DO WE KNOW. LIKE BECAUSE
IT'S THIRTY DAYS ON THE TWENTY
NINTH DAY SOMETHING HAPPENED
SOMEWHERE THAT REALLY MADE A
DIFFERENCE IN SOLVING A CRIME.
AND I THINK CONVERSELY FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT IT'S REALLY
DEMONSTRATING THAT. THE THAT
THERE ARE TIMES THAT IT GOING
FURTHER THAT WOULD HAVE REALLY
MADE A DIFFERENCE SHOULD
CONSIDER THESE QUESTIONS ARE
BEING WHAT ONE SECOND ONE SECOND
LET LET CENTER. YES AND SO IT
AHA. THE WHERE EVERY WAS HE KNEW
ABOUT THE COLLOQUY THING. SO THE
THING IS I JUST APPRECIATE IT
YOU CAN ADDRESS IT IN YOUR
CLOTHES BUT- I JUST HOPE THIS IS
A COMMITMENT STILL STRUGGLING
BUT I JUST HOPE THIS IS A
COMMITMENT TO GENUINELY ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE. GOING FORWARD THANK
YOU FOR THE BUILDING TO TALK
ABOUT. ALL RIGHT OTHER QUESTIONS
COMMENTS- ALL RIGHT WELL LET
LET'S IS THERE MORE. COM OKAY
THUNDERSTORMS THANK YOU MISTER
DELAY WE'RE JUST LIMA WITH THE-
BIG THE COMMENTS MY CALL. MORE
BRIEFLY. BILLS COMPLETELY
NECESSARY THE AUDIT WAS. WE NEED
OVERSIGHT HERE WE NEED
LEGISLATION. THE THIRTY DAYS IS
. YOU'RE TAKING A STAB AT IT
YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO BROUGH
PROVIDE AN ANSWER LET'S TRY TO
LAND THAT ISSUE BECAUSE- MATT I
AM MY OWN ANECDOTES OF. STOLEN
PLUMBING TRUCK OF MY YOU KNOW
HARD WORKING- FATHER IN LAW
MEANS MEMORY BE A BLESSING BEING
FOUND ON DAY FORTY RIGHT AND-
THAT WAS A L. P. ARE WORKING- I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
BUT I THINK THAT YOU GOT SO MANY
OTHER REALLY STRONG PROTECTIONS
HERE WHAT BUT I DON'T THINK WILL
HAPPEN I DON'T THINK YOU'RE
GOING TO UNDER CUT. YOU'RE
REALLY RIGHTEOUS INTENT WITH THE
BILL OR ANY OF THE OTHER
MECHANICS BY MOVING ON THAT
ISSUE SO I JUST I WOULD JUST
ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY TO LAND ON
THAT ISSUE. AND GET US TO A
PLACE WHERE WE CAN FEEL STRONG
ABOUT THIS THE- THE FAILURES IT
IN LONG BEACH ON THE ICE SHARING
BAR NOW BEEN UNDER FIFTY FOUR
THEY CAN BE SUED FOR THAT. AND
ON THE GENDER AFFIRMING CARE IN
SOME OF THOSE ISSUES I THINK
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ALSO
SOME NARROWLY TAILORED
LEGISLATION TO DEAL WITH THOSE
PROTECTIONS I THINK THERE'S SOME
BILLS PENDING ON THAT MATTER SO.
THIS IS A SORT OF GENERAL CATCH
ALL MATTER THOUGH. I'M
STRUGGLING WITH THE GENERAL
CATCH ALL NUMBER SINCE IT IS SO
SITUATION SPECIFIC SO I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY BUT I
APPRECIATE. YOUR EFFORTS GOING
FOR. ALL RIGHT SEVEN S. B. I'LL
BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN BECAUSE
SOME OF OUR MEMBERS ARE BEING
CALLED THE WAY BACK. I THINK I'M
WILLING TO SUPPORT HE SAID WELL
I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS BILL BUT
THIRTY DAYS IS WAY TOO SHORT FOR
ME AND BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE
STRUGGLING WITH HIS I HEARD SOME
OF THE MEMBERS COME UP AND SAY
ARE SOME OF YOUR SOME OF THE-
LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS. NOT
NOT NOT LANDING ON A NUMBER BUT
I HOPE THAT WHAT YOU TAKE AWAY
FROM THIS COMMITTEE TODAY IS
THAT THIRTY DAYS IS TOO SHORT
FOR US. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO
APPROPRIATIONS. I'M I'M WILLING
TO GIVE YOU. MORE TIME TO. BUT
IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S GOTTA BE
SOME MIDDLE GROUND. FEELS LIKE
YOU KNOW. SOME SOMETHING LONGER.
A COUPLE YEARS THREE YEARS. I
KNOW THERE'S NO MAGIC NUMBER.
BUT THIRTY DAYS IS WAY TOO
SHORT. AND AND NOT SOMETHING I
WOULD SUPPORT AGAIN BUT I WILL
DO IT TODAY. IN ORDER TO GIVE
YOU A CHANCE TO KEEP. WORKING ON
IT AND I. JUST WANT I WANT TO
THANK YOUR- SPEAKER BECAUSE- IT
IS MY EVER FRUSTRATION THAT
PEOPLE USE SACRAMENTO AS THEIR
EXAMPLE. SO THANK YOU FOR
POINTING OUT THAT THERE WERE
SEVENTY ONE. GROUPS THAT DID
THIS AND SOCCER MATCHES ONE OF
THEM SOMETIMES. SACRAMENTO RISES
TO THE TOP IN. AND GETS PICKED
ON A LOT IN THESE BUILDINGS AND
IT'S- PART OF MY- MISSION HERE
TO. STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING.
THANK YOU. I THANK YOU A
BELIEVES MOTION BY SENATOR
STERN- I SAID. REMEMBER LOW AND
THOUGHT YOU FOR THE COMMENTS THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS- I'VE
COMMITTED TO SUPPORT THE BILL I
WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE
BILL- BUT- ALONG WITH MY
COLLEAGUES. THERE'S SOME
TREPIDATION ABOUT SUPPORTING THE
THIRTY DAY. LIMIT THEN WHEN IT
COMES TO THE FLOOR- I'M GOING TO
. MAKE SURE THAT THAT. THE
ISSUES. AT LEAST HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSED AND EARNEST- BY THE
PROPONENTS WHETHER THIRTY DAYS
IS SUFFICIENT I DON'T KNOW
YOU'VE GOT A CLASH OF VALUES AND
DATA HERE. OR THE ABSENCE
THEREOF. OF WHICH WHICH CREATES.
SOME SOME CONCERN- BUT- HAVING
SAID THAT OF GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.
WELL THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR THE VERY
THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS AND-
ABSOLUTELY A 100% COMMITTED TO
WORKING WITH. ANYONE WANTING TO
WORK ON IT AND I WILL REITERATE-
I EXPECT THOSE. THOSE FINDINGS
TO BE NOT ANECDOTAL AND TO BE
ACTUALLY DATA DRIVEN. WITH REAL
EXAMPLES OF HOW THAT DATA HAS
BEEN USED. BECAUSE WE NOT
EXAMPLES BUT REAL- DATA ON HOW
THAT'S BEEN USED AND WHAT IT
WOULD DO TO CUT DOWN ON CRIME.
BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME SO I
CHALLENGE. THOSE THAT WANT TO
WORK ON THIS WITH ME TO BE ABLE
TO COME UP WITH THAT WE WILL
GIVE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE. I
WILL TELL YOU SAID ASK YOU JUST
RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENTS I DO
NOT SEE MYSELF SUPPORTING THIS.
IN HOLDING DATA FOR THREE YEARS
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
WHATSOEVER. SO I THINK THAT THE
TIME PERIOD THAT WE WOULD BE
LOOKING OUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING MUCH
MUCH MUCH SHORTER. SERENA DID
YOU WANT TO SPEAK GLAD HODGES
FOR NOT TOO LATE GO AHEAD. NO I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR.
CARRYING THIS BILL I CARRIED-
AND- LPR BILL A COUPLE TIMES AND
IT'S OUTRAGEOUS WELL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND OTHER
GOVERNMENT ENTITIES NOT ALL BUT
SOME. OF ARE DOING WITH US AND
THERE WAS A REASON FOR A JUST
SAW THAT I THINK IT'S MAYBE IN
SACRAMENTO. ARE YOU TALKED ABOUT
OKAY- SO- THIRTY DAYS IS
GENEROUS THERE STATES THAT HOLD
IT FOR LIKE TWENTY FOUR THIRTY
SIX HOURS- AND SO THIS IS A GOOD
BILL AND I SUPPORT OF. OKAY
APPRECIATE THAT ADD YOUR COMMENT
ABOUT THE THREE YEARS MAY HAS ME
THINKING FOR MYSELF- ANY OTHER
COMMENTS FROM THE DYESS. WE
DON'T WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A
MOTION SO I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES
IF THERE'S MOTION. CENTER WIENER
WANTS TO MOVE THE ITEM OKAY. AND
THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
CLOSE SO WILL WILL CALL THE ROLL
. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY FOUR EIGHTY FOURTEEN
SIXTY THREE THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. I'M
BURKE. WILK ALAN. ASHBY
CABALLERO. RUSSELL LAYERED. MEN
NEW LOW. STERN. WIENER WIENER I
. OF THE ONE. ONE ZERO. OKAY
WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN AND THERE'S
A LOT OF PEOPLE MISSING SO SEE
HOW WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE. YOU NEED A LITTLE HELP
FROM STAFF HERE ON WHO- IS UP
NEXT AYE I ONLY SEE YOU I DON'T
KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IN
FIRST FILE ORDER. ISRAEL IS UP
NEXT YES SHE HAS BUT SHE BEAT
YOU BY ONE SLOT ALL RIGHT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER REYES YOU ARE AT
AB FIVE OH FOUR. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND SENATORS. I WANT TO
START OFF BY CONFIRMING THAT I
WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
DETAILED IN THE ANALYSIS I ALSO
WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN
COMMITTEE STAFFER WORKING WITH
US THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. A
TODAY I PRESENT TO YOU AB FIVE
OH FOUR WHICH WILL PROTECT THE
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES RIGHT TO HONOR
A PICKET LINE. WHEN A PUBLIC
EMPLOYEE UNION IS ENGAGED IN THE
STRIKE. LAST YEAR THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA ENGAGED IN A LABOR
DISPUTE WITH THE GRADUATE
WORKERS POSTDOCTORAL SCHOLARS
AND ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS
REPRESENTING REPRESENTED BY THE
UNITED AUTO WORKERS. THE DISPUTE
FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON UNFAIR
LABOR PRACTICES. AND CULMINATED
IN THE LARGEST HIGHER EDUCATION
STRIKE IN THE NATION'S HISTORY
WHICH LASTED SIX WEEKS DURING
THE STRIKE YOU SEE WORKERS.
REPRESENTED BY UNIONS SUCH AS
TEAMSTERS AND UCF'S. WE'RE
UNABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR
COLLEAGUES. IT BE IN THE STRIKE.
THESE WORKERS WERE FORCED TO
ENTER HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENTS
AND WITH HELD TO SUPPORT FOR
THEIR COLLEAGUES. WHO WERE
FIGHTING FOR FAIR WAGES AND JOB
SECURITY ISSUES THAT INHERENTLY
AFFECT. EVERY WORKER HAVING THE
RIGHT TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY
WITH COLLEAGUES ENGAGED IN
STRIKE SHOULD BE PROTECTED. OUR
WORKERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEAR
LOSING THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY
HONOR A PICKET LINE. THEY OFTEN
HAVE TO CONCEDE THESE TYPES OF
PROTECTIONS IN ORDER TO ENSURE
THEY RECEIVE ADEQUATE WAGES AND
CHILD CARE SUBSIDIES. IN
CALIFORNIA WORKERS SHOULD NOT
HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR RIGHTS IN
ORDER TO LIVE SUSTAINABLE LIVES
AND SUPPORT OTHERS FIGHTING FOR
THE SAME GOAL. AB FIVE OH FOUR
WILL ENSURE WORKERS HAVE THEIR
RIGHTS PROTECTED WHILE THEY
CONTINUE FIGHTING FOR EQUITY
HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL OUR NICK CREWS FROM THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION. AND
NEIL SWEENEY PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED AUTO WORKERS FIFTY EIGHT
TEN. ARE HERE ALSO TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS IS THERE ARE FLOCKS
FROM THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION. OKAY AT THIS
COMMITTEE THAT RULES OF
ENGAGEMENT ARE EACH OF YOU GETS
TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK OUT. I EACH
OF YOUR SPEAKERS FOR PRO IN IT
FOR THE OPPOSITION AND THEN WILL
HEAR ME TO TEST MONEY AFTER THAT
SO GO AHEAD. THANK YOU GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR COMMITTEE
MY NAME IS NICK CRUZ I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT
OF AB FIVE OH FOR. SOME PUBLIC
EMPLOYER SUCH AS UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA PUSH WHAT'S CALLED NO
SYMPATHY STRIKES CLAUSES IN
THEIR CONTRACTS THESE CLAUSES A
FORCE WORKERS TO CROSS PICKET
LINES OF THEIR STRIKING
COWORKERS. EFFECTIVELY COERCING
THEM INTO TAKING THEIR BOSSES
SIDE AGAINST PEOPLE THEY OFTEN
WORK WITH SIDE BY SIDE OF THE
SAME WORKPLACES. THIS NOT ONLY
RESTRICTS WORKERS FREE SPEECH
RIGHTS BUT ALSO CREATES A
HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT. THESE
KNOW SOMEBODY STRIDES CLAUSES
CAN SEVERELY DAMAGE THE ABILITY
OF UNITS NEGOTIATE FAIR WORKING
CONDITIONS. IN SOME CASES THESE
CLAUSES TO PROVIDE EMPLOYERS
WITH THE ABILITY TO. COMPEL
WORKERS TO PERFORM STRUCK LABOR
OF THEIR COWORKERS FOR EXAMPLE
AN ACADEMIC WORKERS REPRESENTED
BY UNITED AUTO WORKERS. WENT ON
STRIKE AT UNIVERSITY CALIFORNIA
THE LECTURES REPRESENTED BY YOU
SEE IF T. WERE EXPECTED TO
PERFORM MUCH OF THE LABOR THAT
THEY'RE STRIKING TEACHING
ASSISTANTS. NORMALLY WOULD HAVE
DONE IN SHORT MANY AFT LECTURES
HAD REFORM EXTRA UNPAID LABOR.
VISA NO SIMPLE STRESS CAUSES
FORCE WORKERS TO TANGIBLY
UNDERMINE THE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING EFFORTS OTHER
COWORKERS. IN THESE CASES
INCLUDING THE U. C. O. W. STRIKE
WORKERS ARE COERCED INTO
BECOMING A STRIKE BREAKERS
AGAINST OF THEIR COWORKERS.
EMPLOYERS USE THESE CLASSES TO
PIT WORKERS AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.
LEADING TO WORSE OUTCOMES FOR
ALL. I'VE SEEN FIRST HAND THE
KIND OF DAMAGE THAT NO SYMPATHY
STRIKES CLASSES CAN CAUSE.
BEFORE I JOIN THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION IN I WAS
ELECTED LEE AT UNITED AUTO
WORKERS LOCAL TWENTY CITY FIVE.
REPRESENTING FELLOW ACADEMIC
WORKERS AT THE UC DURING THE UC
YOU W. STRIKE I ONCE SPOKE TO A
WORKER WHO. DUE TO THIS CLAUSE
BEING PRESENT IN HIS CONTRACT
HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO COME TO
WORK. AND ACROSS OUR PICKET LINE
HE FELT GENUINE FEAR AND ANXIETY
ABOUT BEING PERCEIVED. AS
INSULTING OR HOSTILE TO A CO
WORKERS MANY OF WHOM HE
CONSIDERS FRIENDS AND
COLLEAGUES. HE BROUGHT WITH HIM
A SMALL FOOD ITEM TO DONATE TO
OUR PICKET LINE. I WAS TOLD THIS
GIFT WAS FOR PENANCE IN APOLOGY
FOR BEING FORCED ACROSS OUR
PICKET LINES AND ACTIVELY HARM
HIS FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES JUST
FIGHT FOR FAIR WORKING
CONDITIONS. AB FIVE OH FOR WHICH
THE CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
IS PROUD TO SPONSOR IS A
NECESSARY CORRECTIVE THAT WILL
ALLOW PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS TO
EXERCISE. THEIR FREE SPEECH
RIGHTS AND SUPPORT THEIR
STRIKING COWORKERS RATHER THAN
DECREASE YOUR TIME IS. UP IF YOU
WANT TO WRAP UP THERE SO THERE'S
ROOM FOR OTHER SPEAKER YES I
RESPECTFULLY URGE I'VE ONLY BE
FIVE OH FOUR. AND A REAL QUICK
ON BEHALF OF ASKED ME AND
TEAMSTERS UP IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. GO AHEAD. HELLO CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS NAMES NEIL
SWEENEY I AM A NURSE LINE TO US
RESEARCHER I HAVE WORKED AS A
GRADUATE STUDENT POSTDOC IN
ACADEMIC RESEARCH AT THE
UNIVERSITY CALIFORNIA. M. AND
I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF UAW FIFTY
TEN REPRESENTING TWELVE THOUSAND
POST I CAN ACCURATE RESEARCHERS
ACROSS ALL TEN CAMPUSES. AS NICK
MENTIONED LAST FALL MY UNION THE
RATE OF THE FIFTY TEN. ALONG
WITH YOU TO BETWEEN SIXTY FIVE
ONCE ON STRIKE TOGETHER. OVER
THE UC'S UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
AND BAD FAITH BARGAINING. WE
FELT SOLIDARITY FROM EVERY
CORNER OF THE LABOR MOVEMENT
INCLUDING FROM UPS TEAMSTERS.
WITH THE CONTRACTUAL RIGHT TO
RESPECT IT LINES AND TURN THE
TRUCK SURROUNDED OUR TICKETS.
HOWEVER WE ALSO EXPERIENCED
FIRST HAND THE MORAL INJURY THAT
IS CAUSED. WHEN PUBLIC EMPLOYERS
DO NOT WRECK REFER. YOU NOT
RESPECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHTS OF WORKERS. TO ABIDE. BY
THEIR CONSCIENCE AND HONOR A
PICKET LINE. WHEN MY UNION UAW
FIFTY AT TEN FULLER CONTRACTS
TWO WEEKS EARLIER THAN TWENTY
SIXTY FIVE. WE'RE FORCED TO
CROSS THE PICKET LINES AGAINST
OUR WILL AND PRESSURE TO PICK UP
THEIR STRICT LABOR WHICH CREATED
A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT.
EVERY OTHER UNITS YOU SEE WAS
ALSO FORCED TO CROSS THE PICKET
LINE OR FACE DISCIPLINE. AND
THIS SERVED TO PROLONG THE
STRIKE NOT RESOLVE IT. THIS BILL
IS ABOUT GIVING INDIVIDUAL
WORKERS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO
STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THEIR
CO WORKERS WITHOUT BEING
DISCIPLINED OR FIRED. AND THE
RIGHT TO UNDER THEIR OWN MORAL
COMPASS. SB FIVE OH FOUR WILL
PROTECT THE RIGHTS UNDER PICKET
LINES AS AN ESSENTIAL RIGHT FOR
ALL PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AND TRYING
THIS FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOM.
INTO CALIFORNIA LAW WOULD ALSO
ENCOURAGE GOOD FAITH BARGAINING.
AND SPEEDY RESOLUTIONS SO THAT
WORKERS CAN GET BACK TO THE WORK
THAT THEY WANT TO DO SERVING THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
IPHONE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AT THE WILL TAKE-
ASSIDUOUS AFTER ME TO TAKE. ME
TO DOES. MONEY NOW OR THE
OPPOSITION FIRST. OKAY THE WATER
. FOR THE- BOARD YES OUR THEN
WILL TAKE ME TO MY ENOUGH THE
SUPPORT. ON FORWARD. THANK YOU
SENATOR. AND TRYS BROWN WITH THE
CFTC UNIV EDUCATORS ACROSS MY
PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS THE
UNIVERSITY COUNCIL OF THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS.
PRADA CO SPONSOR THIS- DRIVER
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING RECIPE
WITH UAW LOCAL TWO EIGHT SIX
FIVE AS WELL AS YOU WOULD HAVE
YOU REGION SIX REPRESENTING A
HUNDRED THOUSAND. ACTIVE AND
RETIRED WORKERS ON THE WEST
COAST PROJECT RESPONSE- DR-
ANYONE WITH A CA YOU CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. AFTERNOON
CEREBUS AND VICE PRESIDENT OF
UAW FIFTY EIGHT TEN PROUD TO
SUPPORT- ON BEHALF OF TWELVE
THOUSAND OF OUR WORKERS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. HI MY NAME IS
PATRICK LEE I'M HERE AS A MEMBER
OF UAW TWENTY EIGHT SIXTY FIVE
HERE URGING FOR SUPPORT FOR A BI
FEDERAL FOR. THINGS GOOD
AFTERNOON SYLVIA SOLELY SHOT
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
FACULTY ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT LET LOOKS
LIKE IT'S SET FOR THE ME TOO
TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT ARE THERE
LEAD WITNESSES FOR THE
OPPOSITION. OKAY YOU'LL ALSO
HAVE TWO MINUTES THANK YOU- GOOD
EVENING MY NAME IS KAYLA INDIAN
AND I'M A LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES
REPRESENTING ALL FIFTY EIGHT
COUNTIES. THE SECOND
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO THIS-
ASSEMBLY BILL EIGHTY FIVE OH
FOUR WE APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATIONS HAD WITH THE
AUTHOR UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
PROHIBITING EMPLOYERS FROM
ENFORCING NO STRICT PROVISIONS
IN CERTAIN INSTANCES EFFECTIVELY
ALLOWING EMPLOYEES TO ENGAGE IN
SYMPATHY STRIKES DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THEIR MO YOU IS IN
TERMS AND CONTAINS A NO STRIKE
PROVISION. WOULD SERIOUSLY
UNDERMINE THE SAFEGUARDS PUT IN
PLACE BY MOST COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. WE ARE
ALSO CONCERNED THE BILL IS
PROBLEMATIC FOR ENTITIES
PERFORMING EMERGENCY AND VITAL
SERVICES. LOCAL AGENCIES PROVIDE
CRITICAL HEALTH AND SAFETY
FUNCTIONS INCLUDING DISASTER
RESPONSE. DISPATCH MOBILE CRISIS
RESPONSE HEALTH CARE. ELECTIONS
AND ROAD MAINTENANCE JUST TO
NAME A FEW. LOCAL M. O. U.
PROVISIONS AROUND STRIKING AND
SYMPATHY STRIKING INSURERS LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS CAN CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE THESE CRITICAL SERVICES
. IN MANY INSTANCES CIRCUMSTANCE
GIVING COUNTIES MUST MEET
MINIMUM STAFF REQUIREMENTS FOR
EXAMPLE IN JAILS AND JUVENILE
FACILITIES TO ENSURE ADEQUATE
SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. AB FIVE OH
FOUR OVERRIDES THE ESSENTIAL
EMPLOYEE PROCESS THAT PER
THEREBY CREATING A SYSTEM WHERE
ANY EMPLOYEE CAN SYMPATHY STRIKE
WHICH WOULD RESULT IN WORKFORCE
SHORTAGES THAT JEOPARDIZE OUR
ABILITY TO OPERATE. WE
UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS
BILL AND SUPPORT WORKERS RIGHT
TO STRIKE WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE
. THE ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEE PROCESS
NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED. WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S RECENT
AMENDMENTS AND OUR COALITION OF
PUBLIC ENTITIES SUBMITTED
COUNTER MEMONS TO THE OFF INTO
THIS COMMITTEE THAT WOULD ENSURE
WORKERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO
SYMPATHY STRIKE ENDS THAT
ESSENTIAL WORK CAN CONTINUE.
WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE
DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER- BUT FOR
THESE REASONS WE MUST
RESPECTFULLY URGE A NO VOTE
TODAY THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH IS THERE ANOTHER LEAD
WITNESS IN OPPOSITION. OKAY THEN
WILL TAKE THE ME TOO TESTIMONY
FOR OPPOSITION. JUST YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION THANK
YOU SENATOR ASHLEY AND MEMBERS-
NAY FOR WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY PERSONAL LINE MY
COMMENTS- WHICH HE SAID THANK.
THANK YOU OUT HERE AND MEMBERS
THEIR BRIDGE ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE DISTRICTS ALSO HERE
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. THIRTY CAN ON BEHALF OF THE
RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA IN THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED THANK YOU. OKAY THANK
YOU I SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM WILL GO TO THE MODERATOR
MODERATOR CAN YOU QUEUE UP
ANYONE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
OF AB FIVE OH FOUR. OF COURSE
THEY PREDOMINANTLY WISH TO SPEAK
IN COURT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE. ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL BE GOING TO LINE AT THREE
FORTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE COLD
WAR BERMAN ON BEHALF OF SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. NEXTRA LINE FOUR OH
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
GOOD EVENING THIS IS ELIZABETH
AND I FELT I AM SPEAKING AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION ON BEHALF
OF URBAN COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ON THE
LINE FOR THIRTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MIKE WEST
ON BEHALF OF THE STATE BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. NEXT ON
THE LINE FOR FOURTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GRIPPING WITH THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF. STATE
COUNTY MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES IN
SUPPORT. ACCERN LINE FOUR OH
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. NAVNEET
CAREER ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. NEXT ON
THE LINE FOR FORTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. FOUR FORTY ONE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. NEXT IN A LEVEL ONE
FOUR FOUR FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD.
ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC BREAKING
INVASION SOLUTION MANAGEMENT
UNIT IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
NEXT TO THE LINE FOR FORTY THREE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. DO YOU THINK
YOU'RE A ROCK BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF BURBANK AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. NEXT TO THE LINE FOR
FORTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. I
MEAN CARE FROM A PRIOR
COUNCILWOMAN'S TODAY ALONG BEACH
CURRENT RESEARCHER AT UC IRVINE
AND A PROBLEM NUMBER OF YOU A-
W. TWENTY EIGHT SIXTY FIVE AND I
URGE YOUR AYE VOTE. THANKS FOR
THE ALLIANCE FOR SIXTEEN GO
AHEAD THE BE OUT DANGER I'LL
TELL YOU I'LL TELL YOU WHEN I GO
IT'S GONNA BE AWHILE. FOR
SIXTEEN YEAR LINE OVER THERE YOU
GO. TRANSACTION HUBBARD HE E. I
AM A- NEXT CALLER PLEASE. NEXT
WE'LL GO TO LINE THREE FIFTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. I DID THE
THREE BILLION- I WORK FOR THE
COMPANY THE THINGS. HAPPENED IN
PRIVATE FROM ARTISTS I JUST CALL
ALL THESE LEGAL. EXCELLENT MORE
TWO PLEASE AHEAD. BY YEAH MIGHT
COLLEGE MAHMOUD ARE YOU BE TO
SIX FIVE BERKELEY I IN OF THE.
NATURAL FOR. PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS EVA HARD AT I'M A OF
YOUR TWO GREAT FIVE AN I SUPPORT
EIGHTY FIVE OH FOUR THANK YOU.
NEXT TO ALIGN FOR TWENTY PLEASE
GO. MY NAME IS AN MAILLET OUT
AMONG OF YOUR W. TWO EIGHT SIX
AND I A FIVE OF. NEXT ON THE
LINE FOR THIRTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS EMILY
WEINTRAUB I AM A MEMBER OF UAW
TWENTY SIXTY FIVE AND I SUPPORT
EIGHTY FIVE OH FOUR. NEXT IN
LINE FOR TWENTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS RAJ FOR
GARCIA AND I AM THE NUMBER OF
YOU'RE GOING TO GET SIXTY FIVE.
FIVE BEFORE. NATIONAL FOR TWO
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS LEO HAMMER LINK I'M A MEMBER
OF UAW LOCAL TWO EIGHT SIX FIVE
AND I SUPPORT EIGHTY FIVE OH
FOUR THANK YOU. NEXT ALL LIVE
FOR TWENTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HI MY NAME'S CLAYTON MCEVOY
AND THE NUMBER OF U. A. W. TWO
SIX FIVE AND I SUPPORT EIGHTY
FIVE OH FOUR. NEXT WITH A LINE
FOR THIRTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. FOUR THIRTY THREE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. OUR MISSION BECAUSE SHE
I'M NOT. EIGHT SEVEN TWO SIX
FIVE WITH A AB. OH NEXT LINE
FOR. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS SAM ACOSTA I AM A MEMBER OF
UAW TWO EIGHT SIX FIVE AND I'M
PROUD TO SUPPORT IF YOU TRAVEL
FOR. NATURAL LINE FOR FORTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. BURGER KING BY
SPREADING OF LEGISLATION YOU SEE
A FIFTY FIFTY LOCAL FOURTEEN
SEVENTY FOUR- CO SPONSORS WE
SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE YOUR-
BOATING I'D THANK YOU. NEXT IN A
LINE FOR EIGHTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS ANDREA
MCNEIL I AM A MEMBER OF YOUR W.
TWO EIGHT SIX FIVE AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT EIGHTY FIVE
BEFORE. NEXT TO ALIGN FOR TWENTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS MIA AND THOUGH I AM A PROUD
MEMBER OF UAW LOCAL TWENTY EIGHT
SIXTY FIVE AND I PORT AB FIVE OF
FOUR. NEXT TO THE LINE FOR FIFTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. AFTERNOON
MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS ALYSSA YOM
ON BEHALF OF THE CSU EMPLOYEES
UNION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
NATURAL LINE FOR TWENTY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME BY
RESURGENT FELLERS WITH YOUR W.
TWO EIGHT SIX FIVE AND I SUPPORT
THE BILL. NEXT IN LINE FOR
THIRTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. IT A
GREAT. I MEAN. THAT. ONE OF
THANK. AT. NATURAL FOR TWO ONE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. FOR TWENTY ONE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. WITH NEXT IN
A LINE FOR FIFTY TWO PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS MAX MY
REMEMBER IF YOU A W. TWO EIGHT
SIX FIVE AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF
AB FIVE OF COURT. NATIONAL
ALLIANCE FOR THIRTY FOUR PLEASE
GO AHEAD. BUT I'M- ALL RIGHT
NEXT CALLER PLEASE. A LINE FOR
NINETEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU AT W. TWENTY FIVE IN PORT.
NATURAL LINE FOR FIFTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HEY THIS IS
GOING TO BE A FRANK I'M A PROUD
MEMBER OF U. A. W. TWO EIGHT SIX
FIVE AND I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT.
HEY THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. NEXT
SACRAMENTO TO LINE ONE SIXTY
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS EDWARDS AMONG YOU A W. LOCAL
EIGHT AND I SUPPORT AB FIVE OF.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ABOUT A LINE
FOR FIFTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD
. THIS IS YOUR MEMBERS JOHN
MOFFETT ON BEHALF THE CITY OF
ICE- IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
BETTER LIVES FOR SIXTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME'S
REBECCA DOES I REMEMBER W. H.
THREE FIVE I MEAN FOR. CORRECT
FORCED THE PLEASE AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON MEMBERS TOMORROW ON
BEHALF OF YOU FOR CALIFORNIA OFF
THE PRESIDENT AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. NATIONAL
ALLIANCE FOR SIXTY FIVE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS BLAINE
JACKSON HUBBARD PHD I'M A
RESEARCHER AT THE UNIVERSITY
CALIFORNIA IRVINE AND A PROUD
MEMBER OF UAW LOCAL FIFTY EIGHT
TEN AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
EIGHTY FIVE OH FOUR THANK YOU.
AND THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ONE
ELSE IN THE QUEUE AT THIS TIME
MISTER. OKAY WE CAN COME BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE AND R. S. CARRIES
BACK SO HE'LL TAKE OVER. THANK
YOU QUESTIONS COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THE RUSSELL
DID ANYBODY QUESTION SOME OF THE
RACEMOSA BILL ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS CENTER ALAN. SORRY I'VE
BEEN RUNNING BACK AND FORTH ITS
ENTRANCE- I UNDERSTAND THERE IS
A NUMBER OF CONCERNS FROM SOME
LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOLKS ABOUT-
AND WORKABILITY AND PROVISIONS
SERVICES AND HOW THIS INTERACTS
WITH- WITH- WITH WITH WITH THEIR
ABILITY. TO DO THEIR BASIC WORK
I'D LOVE TO- GET YOUR GET YOUR
GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT AND
ARE YOU WORKING WITH. LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND I GUESS THAT SOME
UNIVERSITIES I THINK ARE
INVOLVED TO- ON ON THIS BILL TO
GET SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS
ADDRESS HOW HOW IS THAT HAS A
CONVERSATION GOING RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION-
WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT SUCH-
ESSENTIAL WORKERS SAFETY
WORKERS- IT'S- FIVE OH FORCE
GOING TO ALLOW PUBLIC EMPLOYEES
TO SYMPATHY STRIKE. HOWEVER
FIREFIGHTERS ARE EXEMPTED FROM
THE BILL DUE TO OUR EARLY
CONVERSATIONS. THAT WE HAD WITH
THE CALIFORNIA PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS REGARDING OTHER
SOCIAL WORKERS WE HAVE ACCEPTED
TO COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO BRING
US CLOSER TO CLARIFYING
ESSENTIAL WORKER CLERK
CLASSIFICATIONS. THROUGH THE
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. RETIREMENT
BOARD PROCESS. WHAT IS WHAT IS I
MEAN. POLICE OFFICERS- AND
FIREFIGHTERS ARE ESSENTIAL
WORKERS WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT
HOSPITALS THOSE ARE THE
ESSENTIAL WORKERS. AND ACTUALLY
IF I CAN HAVE SIR FLUX I ANSWER
THE QUESTION I THINK YOU MIGHT
GET A BETTER ANSWER. ALL RIGHT
VERY BRIEFLY GO AHEAD THROUGH
THE CHAIR OF COURSE AND THERE
ARE THERE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
OR THE UP THE BUT THE AUTHORS
AGREED TO TAKE EXEMPTS LAW
ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY. BUT
ALSO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF
SAYING THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T
PREVENT HER FROM DOING WHAT THEY
ALREADY CAN DO ON A CASE BY CASE
BASIS WHICH IS THEY CAN DEEM
CERTAIN WORKERS AS ESSENTIAL
WORKERS AND ENJOINED THEM FROM
STRIKING. THAT IS EXISTING CURB
WITH ALREADY- COUNTY SANITATION
IS ONE OF THE CASES THAT IS
ESSENTIAL TO THAT AND WHAT THE
AUTHOR HAS ACCEPTED AS AN
AMENDMENT IS SAYING THAT NOTHING
IN THIS BILL WOULD PREVENT HER.
FROM DOING THAT IN CASES OF
SYMPATHY STRIKES SUPERB COULD
CONTINUE THEIR EXISTING
AUTHORITY TO SAY- OKAY THESE ARE
ESSENTIAL WORKERS CAN'T FIND
REPLACEMENTS THEY ARE ESSENTIAL
TO PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY- AND SO WE'RE GOING TO
ENJOY THE FROM STRIKING. AND
THAT MOVES IN THAT REALLY MOVES
IN THE DIRECTION OF THE ISSUES
THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT HOW
TO CITIES AND COUNTIES PROVIDE
ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND THIS IS A
PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXISTS
UPPER. RESERVE WHAT HOW DOES
THAT PROCESS WORK AT- AT- OTHER
IT COVERED CITIES LIKE
UNIVERSITY HOW FOR YOU FOR
EXAMPLE. IT WAS SUCH A SERVICE I
GUESS IS PROBABLY DIFFERENT.
CONVERSATION IT'S NOT ESSENTIAL
IT WOULD BE YOU HAVE TO GET INTO
THAT THE CASE BUT IT'S BASICALLY
I BELIEVE THE TERM IS DOES THIS
STRIKE POSE A HAZARD TO. PUBLIC
SAFETY HEALTH AND WELFARE- AND
THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER. YOU
KNOW. THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO
MEET AND THEN CURB COULD GO AND
ENJOY IN THAT THE WORKERS FROM
STRIKING AND THAT APPLIES AS I
UNDERSTAND IT. TO PUBLIC ALL
PUBLIC EMPLOYERS. THE PROPOSAL
PERMITS A PROCESS. COVERS THE
YOU SEE YOU SEE IN PLACE FOR
EXAMPLE CASTING. IS THAT RIGHT
IS PART OF ARTICLE NINE ALL THE
ALL THAT COMING OKAY ALL RIGHT
SO JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR I'M
SORRY CENTER OUR WINNER UP BUT I
DON'T KNOW NOT ALL RIGHT SO. SO
JUST TO BE CLEAR- YOU'VE
ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENTS I WAS
OUTSIDE THE ROOM. I HAVE OKAY IN
AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT ONE OF
THE AMENDMENTS- READS AS FOLLOWS
THIS SECTION SHALL NOT PREVENT
THE PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT. RELATIONS
BOARD FROM SEEKING JUMPED OF
REALLY FROM A SUPERIOR COURT TO
ENJOIN ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES FROM
STRIKING. IS THAT TERMS
DESCRIBING COUNTY SANITATION
DISTRICT NUMBER TWO. VERSUS LOS
ANGELES COUNTY EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION CONSISTENT WITH PER
BLOCK AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT
TO MEAN IS THAT THIS BILL. THIS
POTENTIAL LAW DOES NOT EXPAND
THE- ENTITIES THAT MAY AN
ESSENCE STRIKE. WE WANT TO
PRESERVE. THE STATUS QUO AS TO
THOSE OF ASSOCIATIONS RIGHT THE
TN STRIKING CANNOT STRIKE IS
THAT ACCURATE OWNERS L. ALL ASK
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CENTRAL WORKERS
THAT IS CORRECT OKAY. AND I'M
NOT GONNA ASK MISS FLOCK TO SO
THAT THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY HERE
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS
WELL. YES WE ALSO DID A SPECIAL
EXEMPTION- FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND BECAUSE THERE'S AS WELL. AS
WELL IN ADDITION BUT YES. OKAY
NOW NOW YOU'RE CREE CONCERN. OF
THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN EMPLOYEES
THAT THAT MAY NOT. STRIKE RIGHT
YES OF FIREFIGHTERS LAW
ENFORCEMENT THERE SOME OTHER
ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES THAT MAY NOT
STRIKE RIGHT. AND THIS BILL DOES
NOT EXPAND THE UNIVERSE OF THOSE
WHO MAY STRIKE YES OKAY ALL
RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT OKAY. ALL
RIGHT OF OTHER QUESTIONS
COMMENTS CONCERNS SEEING NONE IS
THERE A MOTION. YES CENTER LOS
ALL REMOVE THE BILL. OKAY THE
ROSSES MOVE THE ALL RIGHT- BUT
CLOSE. I DO THANK YOU THANK THE
QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED I THINK
THAT IS IMPORTANT WE WENT TO THE
DEPARTMENT- LABOR. COMMITTEE
BEFORE AND OF THE SAME ISSUES
HAD COME UP AND I APPRECIATE THE
WORK OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE
CHAIR. AND WORKING WITH US ON
MAKING THIS A STRONGER BILL SO
THAT WE DO PROTECT TO THOSE
EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO SYMPATHY
STRIKE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OKAY- THAT YOU'RE CLOSE.
YEAH THAT IS MY OUR EYES THAT
YOUR CLOTHES ALRIGHT-
METASPECTRUM PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
THIRTY FIVE AB FIVE OH FOR THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. UMBERG BY. NUMBER AYE
WILK. ALLEN ALLEN AYE ASHLEY.
ASHLEY I CABALLERO. RUSSELL
RUSSELL A WEIRD. LAYERED BY MEN
MEN I IN THE LOW. THE LOW NOTES
STERN. STERN I WIENER. SEVEN ONE
SEVEN ONE WILL PUT THAT ON CALL
ALL RIGHT IN TERMS OF THE WAY
AHEAD- I BELIEVE OUR NEXT AUTHOR
IS ASSEMBLY MEMBER THREE OF US
AND THEN WITH THE CONSENT OF
THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT- WILL BE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WILK- I'M SORRY
. WE'VE BEEN HERE AWHILE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WICKS IN THIS IS
THERE ARE NOT FIRST VISIT YOU'RE
NOT FOR THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST
VISIT THE SENATE JUDICIARY AND
THEN- I AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR
THOSE WHO ARE AT THE END OF BUT
THEY HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN
THE ALACRITY OF THIS THIS
COMMITTEE. SELL OFF ALL RIGHT
THE NEW RIVAS. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I WANT TO START
BY THINKING I THE COMMITTEE FOR
THE THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS ON THIS
BILL. AB ELEVEN SIXTY THREE
TAKES VITAL STEPS TO REDUCE WELL
BEING DISPARITIES FOR LGBTQ
COMMUNITIES THIS BILL AMENDS THE
LESBIAN GAY BISEXUAL AND TRANS
GENDER DISPARITIES REDUCTION
ACT. TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STATE
ENTITIES TO COLLECT VOLUNTARY
SELF IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION
PERTAINING TO SEXUAL ORIENTATION
AND GENDER IDENTITY. IN TWENTY
FIFTEEN THE U. S. TRANSGENDER
SURVEY ISSUED THE LARGEST SURVEY
EXAMINING THE EXPERIENCES OF
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE IN THE UNITED
STATES. THE SURVEY FOUND THAT
33% OF TRANSGENDER PEOPLE
SEEKING HEALTH CARE SERVICES
REPORTED HAVING NEGATIVE
EXPERIENCES INCLUDING REFUSAL OF
TREATMENTS VERBAL HARASSMENT AND
PHYSICAL ASSAULT THAT ALL STEM
FROM BEING MISGENDERED. IT'S
CLEAR THAT THE MISGENDERING OF
MEMBERS OF THE LGBTQ PLUS
COMMUNITY HAS PREVENTED THEM
FROM RECEIVING THE SERVICES THAT
THEY NEED TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE.
WITH THIS BILL THE STATE WILL
UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE AND
SEVERITY OF THE ISSUES AND THE
DANGERS FACING THIS VULNERABLE
POPULATION. TODAY I HAVE WITH ME
TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY TIE RANTS
KELLY C. E. O. OF TRANS OF
ANARCHY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
CLOSURES. GOOD AFTERNOON THANK
YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE MY NAME
IS STATE IS TIRING SAYS KELLY
SENIOR BETTER KNOWN AS OMEGA AYE
MAN CHUCKY. I AM THE FOUNDER AND
CEO OF TRANS OF ANARCHY
INCORPORATED WHICH IS AN
ORGANIZATION WHAT OUR MISSION IS
TO DETOXIFY THE OVERALL SPECTRUM
OF MASCULINITY WITHIN HUMANITY
BY HEALING AND EMPOWERING AND
BRING IN AWARENESS. I'M HERE
TODAY TO SUPPORT A. B. ELEVEN
SIXTY THREE THE EX THE
BUSINESSES CONSUMER SERVICES
HOUSING AUTHORITY. AN AGENCY THE
CALIFORNIA HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES AGENCY AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE
CALIFORNIA COMMISSIONERS ON THE
BEST DISABILITY A SET ACCESS TO
MAKE TRANSGENDER GENDER NON
CONFORMING AND INTERSEX BETTER
KNOWN AS TGI COMMUNITIES. IN
CALIFORNIA VISIBLE THROUGH DATA
COLLECTION CALIFORNIA CAN TAKE A
HUGE STEP. IN INSPIRING THE
WORLD TO RECOGNISE TGI
COMMUNITIES AND ENSURE THEIR WE
ARE INCLUDED. AS AN INTERSEX
PERSON I HAVE BEEN MADE
INVISIBLE SO THE WORLD AND SO
THE SERVICES THEY ARE SUPPOSED
TO BE PROVIDED. I AM A DOCTOR A
SINGLE PARENT ANY EDUCATOR TO
THOSE IN LIFE. WHO ARE LEFT OUT
DUE TO DEAN BORN INTERSEX I
EXIST IN ALL OF MY INTERSECTION
LED IDENTITIES MY COMMUNITIES
EXIST BUT HOWEVER BECAUSE OF THE
WAY THAT I WAS BORN I AM NOT
INCLUDED AND I AM NOT ALLOWED TO
RECEIVE SERVICES. IN ADDITION TO
ME NOT ALLOWING TO BE COUNTY AND
DAUGHTER NOT BEING COLLECTED
THAT ALSO LEAVES OUT MY TO ORDER
. HOWEVER BECAUSE OF NO DATA
BEING COLLECTED BY STATE
AGENCIES OR IN YOUR SIX
COMMUNITIES IT IS DIFFICULT TO
DEMONSTRATE OUR NEEDS THROUGH
DATA WHICH MAKES IT ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE
RESOURCES AND COMMUNITY
DISPARITIES THAT WE'RE NEEDED.
THE AFFECTS OF DISPARITIES THE
FOLKS LIVING IN MULTIPLE
INTERSECTION LEDS OF RACE
IMMIGRATION STATUS SEXUAL
ORIENTATION GENDER IDENTITY AND
BEING INTERSEX ARE NOT
UNDERSTOOD IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. BUT WE CAN'T BE
BRUSHED UNDER THE ROAD ALREADY
SIR IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND
WRAP IT UP PLEASE AND I AM
ASKING YOU ALL. TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE TGI COMMUNITIES ARE
COUNTED AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUESTS AND I FOR EIGHTY.
ELEVEN SIXTY THREE THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF THIS IS
SUPPORT OF AB ELEVEN SIXTY THREE
PLEASE APPROACH MIKE FUNK THING
NO ONE ELSE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE THE STERN THE
OPPOSITION. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO
AB ELEVEN SIXTY THREE PLEASE
APPROACH THING KNOWN APPROACH
AND MIKE FELIZ TURN TO THE PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE WHO IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION AB ELEVEN SIXTY
THREE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHICH
MAKE A COMMENT IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
ZERO AT THIS TIME. THAT'S
CURRENTLY KNOWN TEARING UP AT
THIS TIME MISTER ALL RIGHT LET'S
BRING BACK COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS.
LEGAL OBSERVER STERN MOVES THE
BILL. DID NOT QUESTIONS OKAY ALL
RIGHT. NO I HAVE A COM O. OKAY.
SIMILARITIES HI I JUST WANTED TO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. AN INTERESTING WADI
TODAY COMING BACK FROM CAUCUS I
GOT A TEXT FROM MY STAFF AND
THEY SAID. A CONSTITUENT WOULD
LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU
PERSONALLY AND I WANT BY MY
OFFICE JUST BEFORE COMING BACK
HERE. AND IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO-
IS TRANS AND WHO HAD HAD HIS
NAME. POSTED HIS DEAD NAME- AND
HE SAID HE FEELS THREATENED- YOU
KNOW HE SAYS HE LEADS A STEALTH
WIFE. WHERE HE DOESN'T LIKE TO
DISCLOSE. A LOT ABOUT WHERE HE
LIVES AND HOW HE LIVES HIS LIFE
BECAUSE HE FEELS IN DANGER AND
SO I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE
THAT JUST HAPPENED. AND IT IS
JUST SORT OF A STATEMENT ABOUT-
WHAT YOUR TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE
AND WHAT IS STILL GOING ON
BECAUSE THEY'RE SO MANY TIMES
THAT PEOPLE SAY. ARE ALL THESE
BATTLES HAVE BEEN WON AND DAY
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WE ARE STILL
FIGHTING SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR
THIS BILL LOOK FORWARD TO VOTE
FOR. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT-
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION BY.
SENATOR LAYERED- WHICH COULD
CLOSE I THANK YOU AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NO SIR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER THIRTY
SIX AB ELEVEN SIXTY THREE THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE NUMBER
HI. NUMBER I WILK. ALAN ALLEN HI
ASHLEY. ASHLEY I CABALLERO.
RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED.
LAYERED I AM IN. WHEN I ANY LOW
. STERN STERN AYE WIENER. SEVEN
ZERO. YOU SEE THE SEVEN ZERO
WITHOUT ON CALL- BIT BIT OF A
CHANGE HERE- FROM WHAT I
MENTIONED EARLIER ASSEMBLY
MEMBER- REDUCES HERE TO PRESENT.
ITEM NUMBER THIRTY SEVEN AB SIX
SIXTEEN AND THAT WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
WICKS OKAY. CLOSURES THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN SENATORS THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
AB SIX ONE SIX WHICH REMOVED
EXCEPTION FOR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
. ON DELEGATED CHRIS FROM HEALTH
PLANS. SIMILAR INFORMATION. I
WAS ALREADY REPORTED BY OTHER
PROVIDERS AND HEALTH PLANS
ACROSS THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
BUT THERE IS ONE MAJOR
DIFFERENCE FINANCIAL DATA
COLLECTED BY THE STATE FOR
HOSPITALS HEALTH PLANS. CLINICS
AND SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES
IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE TODAY THIS
FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS A
SUMMARY LEVEL AND DOES NOT
REPORT INDIVIDUAL INFORMATION
INCLUDING INDIVIDUAL SALARIES.
THIS BILL DOES NOT SHARE PATIENT
INFORMATION EITHER. IN THE
SENATE HEALTH WE TO CLARIFYING
AMENDMENTS TO REFORM THE TYPE OF
SUMMARY IN FOR FINANCIAL
INFORMATION. M. THE BILL NOW
EXPLICITLY STATES THAT NO
INDIVIDUAL HEALTH PLAN RATES
WILL BE MADE PUBLIC. SB SIX ONE
SIX WOULD SIMPLY CREATE GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE
HEALTHCARE DELIVERY SYSTEM AND
CLOSE THE GAP AND PUBLICLY
ACCESSIBLE FINANCIAL DATA BY
MAKING PUBLIC. THE FINANCIAL
FINANCIAL DATA ALREADY REPORTED
TO DMH SEE AND MAKE. PUBLIC FIND
PUBLIC THE FINANCIAL DATA SOON
TO BE COLLECTED BY H. CHI FOR
OTHER LARGE MEDICAL GROUPS WITH
ME TODAY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT IS BETH MELANAU SKI
THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
ADVOCATE. WITH SEIU CALIFORNIA
AND KATIE VAN DINES WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE FOR HEALTH
CARE ACCESS CALIFORNIA. THEY
WERE MUCH THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
AARON MEMBERS ELSE IT AS TAKE.
PROBLEMS OF AB SIX ONE SIX
GRATEFUL FOR SUMMER RODRIGUEZ
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS
EFFORT TO BRIEFLY SHARE SA USE
PERSPECTIVE YOU MIGHT NOT SAY
THAT'S ENOUGH BUT EVERY WORKERS
A HEALTH CARE CONSUMER.
HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE RISING OUT
OF CONTROL THE COST OF
HEALTHCARE HAS BEEN RISING ABOVE
INFLATION FOR YEARS THING LARGER
LARGER CHUNKS OF HEALTH CARE
WORKERS AND ALL WORKERS WAGES-
AND DESTABILIZING FAMILY BUDGETS
FOR SEIU MEMBERS OF THE
BARGAINING TABLE. HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE AND COSTS ARE THE
NUMBER ONE ISSUE. EMPLOYERS WITH
THESE RISING COSTS EITHER SEEK
TO REDUCE HEALTH BENEFITS OR
PUSH MORE OF THE COSTS ON TO THE
WORK FORCE LEAVING LESS OF THE
PAYCHECK FOR RENTER PUTTING FOOD
ON THE TABLE. THE LOSING
PROPOSITION FOR CALIFORNIA'S
WORKFORCE AND AS YOU FOR YEARS
HAS ADVANCE EFFORTS TO REIN
HEALTH CARE SPENDING IN
COLLISION WITH CONSUMER. LABOR
AND PURCHASE ORGANIZATIONS THE
JOB OF ADDRESSING THE UNDERLYING
COSTS IN OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
IS FAR FROM OVER. THE TACKLE
THIS ISSUE WE HAVE. WE HAVE AN
MUST CREATE GREATER TRANSPARENCY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM WITH GREATER PUBLIC
ACCESS TO DATA. AB SIX ONE SIX
DOES JUST THIS AS A MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ NOTED THIS BILL WILL
CLOSE SIGNIFICANT REMAINING
GAPS. IN FINANCIAL DATA THAT IS
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE CREATING
PARITY ACROSS THE HEALTHCARE
DELIVERY SYSTEM. AS HEALTHCARE
IN INCREASINGLY MOVES TO
OUTPATIENT SETTINGS OPERATE BY
POSITION ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S
PROVIDER CONSOLIDATION INCREASES
THE MARKET POWER OF JUST A FEW
LARGE POSITION ORGANIZATIONS.
THE PURPOSE OF BRING THE SAME
LEVEL PUBLIC SCRUTINY THE
MEDICAL GROUPS. I WANT TO STRESS
THIS BILL IS ABOUT SUMMARY
FINANCIAL INFORMATION AT THE
CORPORATE LEVEL. NOT ABOUT
INDIVIDUAL PROVIDERS OR
PATIENTS. THE POLICIES
CONSISTENT WITH THE POSITION AS
HE IS TAKING UP AN EVER
TRANSPARENCY FOR OVER TWO
DECADES. THAT DID NOT CHANGE
WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE
OFFICE OF HEALTH CARE
AFFORDABILITY. THIS POLICIES
ALSO CONSIST OF ACTIONS TAKEN BY
SEVERAL STATES ACROSS POLITICAL
LINES. NONE OF THE STATE'S
OBSCENE ANTI TRUST ISSUES
CLAIMED BY OUR POSITION ARISE
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WE HAVE NOT
SEEN AND ADDRESSED ISSUES ARISE
IN OUR OWN STATE WE'RE SUMMARY
FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS ALREADY
PUBLIC FOR HOSPITAL THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. YOU COULD WRAP IT UP.
WELL THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY MY HEAD OVER
NOW TO MY COLLEAGUE KATIE VAN
DEINZE THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING I
HAVE MISTER CHAIR AND SENATORS
I'M KATIE AND I IN THE POLICY
AND LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE WITH
HEALTH ACCESS CALIFORNIA THE
STATE RIGHT HEALTHCARE CONSUMER
ADVOCACY COALITION. AND WE'RE
HEARINGS IPOD SUPPORTED EIGHTY
SIX SIXTEEN A PRO CONSUMER
MEASURE TO HELP US BETTER
UNDERSTAND THE DRIVERS OF HEALTH
CARE COSTS. HEALTH ACCESS HAS
BEEN ADVOCATING FOR MEDICAL
GROUP FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY
SINCE THE NINETIES WHEN WE
SUPPORTED IT AS PART OF A
PACKAGE OF BILLS CREATING THE
DEPARTMENT OF MANAGED
HEALTHCARE. AND REGULATION OF
MEDICAL GROUPS THAT TAKE PRESS.
THE OFFICE OF HEALTHCARE
AFFORDABILITY REQUIRES COST
GROWTH TARGETS FOR THE
HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY AN
ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES OF
PHYSICIAN ORGANIZATIONS REPORT
FINANCIAL DATA. TO THE OFFICE.
I'M THAT TO THAT FOR EXCUSE ME
PART THAT DOT IS THE OFFICE IN.
ORDER TO ACCEPT THOSE COST
GROWTH TARGETS YES I DOT IS
EXEMPT FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.
IN THIS DECISION WITH A CARRY
OVER FROM A COMPROMISE IN THE
NINETIES KEEPING MEDICAL GROUP
FINANCIAL FROM THE PUBLIC. THIS
COMPROMISE WAS BAD FOR CONSUMERS
THAN AND IT STILL IS NOW. THIS
TRANSPARENCY IS EVEN MORE
CRITICAL NOW AS A HEALTH CARE
MARKET BECOMES MORE CONSOLIDATED
DRIVING HIGHER HEALTH CARE COSTS
. AND BASED ON RECENT RATE
REVIEW FILINGS WE CAN BE AT
LEAST 20% OF SOME HEALTH. PLAN
PREMIUMS GO TO PHYSICIAN
SERVICES. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE
MOST BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT
MEDICAL GROUPS. HOW FINANCIALLY
SOLVENT ARE THESE GROUPS THEY
HAVE ONE DOLLAR RESERVES ARE
THEIR RESERVES AT AMPLE OF
HEALTH. PLANS AND HOSPITAL THAT
ALREADY REPORT THIS DATA FOR THE
PUBLIC. OR DO MEDICAL GROUPS
RELY ON AFFILIATED SYSTEMS LIKE
KAISER THOUGHT ARE IN SHARP FOR
RESERVES. AS PROVIDERS CONTINUE
TO CONSOLIDATE AND INCREASE
THEIR MARKET POWER THESE ARE ALL
REASONS WHY I'M PHYSICIAN
RADIATION SIDE THE SAME PUBLIC
TRANSPARENCY AS HOSPITALS AND
HEALTH PLANS DO UNDER EXISTING
LAW. RISING HEALTH CARE COSTS
ARE CALLED CAUSING CONSUMERS TO
SKIP THE HEALTHCARE THAT THEY
NEED A HAND OVER A THIRD OF
CONSUMERS AND MEDICAL DATA.
EIGHTY SIX SIXTEEN IS AN
IMPORTANT MEASURE TO ENSURE THAT
WE HAVE THE FULL TRANSPARENCY
NEEDED TO ADDRESS THESE RISING
HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE SLIGHTLY
OFF THEIR AYE VOTE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF
AB SIX SIXTEEN PLEASE APPROACH
MIKE FROM GIVE US YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION.
MAR INTERNET ON BEHALF OF THE
LEUKEMIA LYMPHOMA SOCIETY AND
SUPPORT FOR YOU. ZURCHER
COMMITTEE ON THE CRUISE OF THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. SEE YOU KNOW
WHAT ELSE APPROACHING THE
MICROPHONE. NOW OF FOUR
OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AB
SIX SIXTEEN PLEASE APPROACH MIKE
FOR. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS USTER
THOMPSON WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. I DO I
THINK THE AUTHOR ON THE SPONSOR
FOR ONGOING DIALOGUE BUT
UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE IN
OPPOSITION. AND YOU HAVE POLICY
DISAGREEMENTS THAT. WE'RE
UNLIKELY TO BE ABLE TO BRIDGE.
ON THIS BILL GOING FORWARD I
THINK FIRST OFF I'D LIKE TO
START WITH- LAST YEAR- THE
ADMINISTRATION ALONG WITH THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED THE OFFICE
OF. THE BILL ESTABLISHING THE
OFFICE OF HEALTH CARE
AFFORDABILITY- THE PROVISIONS
CONTAINED IN THIS BILL. WERE
CONSIDERED AS PART OF THAT BILL-
IT ULTIMATELY REJECTED- IN IN IT
LEGISLATION THAT DID NOT HAVE
ANY OPPOSITION. GOING FORWARD SO
IT'S TROUBLING FOR US TO SEE
THESE PROVISIONS THAT WERE. NOT
INCLUDED IN THAT OVERALL DEAL TO
GET EVERYONE TO A PLACE OF
NEUTRALITY I TO BE RAISE THE
VERY NEXT ISSUE- THE FROM A
POLICY PERSPECTIVE- THERE IS A
CONCERN THAT WE HAVE THAT THIS
BILL ONLY PERTAINS TO RISK
BEARING ORGANIZATIONS SO- IN
HEALTH CARE TERMS THAT. MEANS
OFTEN THOSE PHYSICIAN GROUPS
THAT DO WHAT WE CALL VALUE BASED
CARE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY
ASSUME SOME FOR THE RISK AS PART
OF A CAPITATED AGREEMENT. ORDER
TO BETTER DELIVER HEALTH CARE-
MORE EFFICIENTLY IN A MANNER
THAT- DOES NOT INCREASE OVER
UTILIZATION I'M IN THE MOST.
EFFICIENT MANNER POSSIBLE A WITH
THIS BILL DOES IS ONLY REQUIRES
THOSE MEDICAL GROUPS THAT ARE
VALUE BASED- TO REPORT OR TO BE
SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE. ON
A CONCERN THAT THE WE HAVE FROM
THE ASSOCIATION IS THIS IS
TELEVISES MANY MEDICAL GROUPS TO
TRANSITION AWAY FROM VALUE BASED
CARE- BECAUSE OF THIS PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS. THE
GROUP WITH THE INFORMATION
CONTAINED IN THIS BILL IS
ALREADY REPORTED FOR PHYSICIAN
GROUPS TO THE STATE IN MULTIPLE
DIFFERENT MANNERS- FINANCIAL
SOLVENCY BOARD- GETS THIS DATA-
OFFICE OF HEALTH CARE
AFFORDABILITY AND EACH GUY OF
REVIEWS THE STATE AND TO THE
RATE REVIEW PROCESS D. MHC. ALSO
HAS THIS DATA WHAT THIS BILL
DOES IS ALLOW THAT DATA- CERTAIN
VERY SENSITIVE FINANCIAL- AS A
PERTAINS TO MEDICAL GROUPS- TO
BE AVAILABLE THROUGH PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE. I THINK THE FEAR
THAT WE HAVE IS THE TOP. TWO
MAIN REASONS THAT THE STATE WILL
BE USES MAINLY FOR POLITICAL
PURPOSES AND FOR AND LOOKING AT
IT THERE HAS BEEN. A USE OF FOR
SOME TIME SO IF YOU GO HEAD WRAP
IT UP YEAH THAT WAS MY LAST ONE
IS THERE HAS BEEN A USE OF
PRIVATE EQUITY BY IN OPPOSITION
GROUPS. AND THERE'S A LARGE FEAR
HERE THAT PUBLICLY ALLOWING THIS
DATA. ALREADY AVAILABLE- WILL
ASSUME YOUR POST THANK YOU
ANOTHER POSTING ARE SUBJECT.
HELLO AND HOW WE GOT AND SALAS
WITH KAISER PERMANENTE HEY-
UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED TO EIGHTY SIX ONE SIX.
LIKE TO COSIGN WITH A LOT OF MY
COLLEAGUES SAID REGARDING THE
COMPROMISE LAST YEAR- WE- DID
NOT WANT TO HAVE TO PROVIDE THE
MEDICAL GROUP AUDITED FINANCIAL
INFORMATION TO OAK ULTIMATELY. I
WE ARE REQUIRED TO AND WILL BE
PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION SO
THEY CAN LOOK AT HEALTH CARE
COST TARGETS- HOWEVER IT WAS
VITAL FOR US THAT THAT
INFORMATION BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL
AND USED ONLY FOR THE WORK OF
THE OFFICE. IT WAS NOT AMENDMENT
THAT ULTIMATELY REMOVED OUR
OPPOSITION. THE PUBLIC RELEASE
OF THIS INFORMATION WOULD HAVE
MANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
MANDATING DISCLOSURE OF
COMPETITIVELY SENSITIVE
INFORMATION PARTICULARLY IN THE
HEALTHCARE SECTOR WELL LAST
OFFICE TO GET ENTITIES TO MATH
MANIPULATE THAT INFORMATION. AND
IT WILL AFFECT THE HEALTH CARE
MARKET- THIS INFORMATION WOULD
NOT ONLY BE AVAILABLE TO THE
PUBLIC BUT TO LARGE
SOPHISTICATED HEALTH CARE
CORPORATIONS AND PRIVATE EQUITY
FIRMS OUTSIDE CALIFORNIA. HOW
CARE IS A VERY COMPETITIVE
INDUSTRY DISCLOSURE OF THE
COMPENSATION AND HIRING
STRATEGIES ARE THAT THE THAT
THESE TYPES OF REPORTS CONTAIN
FOR EXAMPLE WOULD HAVE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IN
RECRUITING AND RETAINING
PHYSICIANS IN CALIFORNIA. I'M AB
SIX ONE SIX IS TROUBLING TO
LESSEN THAT IT REVERSES THE
OUTCOME OF GOOD FAITH
NEGOTIATIONS FROM LAST YEAR.
LESS THAN A YEAR THAT THEY WERE
PASSED FOR THESE REASONS WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THE BILL
THANK YOU. ARE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH ALL RIGHT. OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION PLEASE APPROACH MIKE
PHONE. ASSEMBLY GOODMAN HERE ON
BEHALF OF KIM STONE OF STONE
ADVOCACY REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA ORTHOPEDIC SUBSTATION
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. THANK YOU MISTER MEMBERS
DAVID GONZALES ON BEHALF OF
AMERICA'S PHYSICIAN GROUPS I
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING THE TICKETS AND I
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF
PSYCHIATRISTS AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU-
SEE NO ONE ELSE PUTS THE
MICROPHONE LET'S TURN THE PHONE
LINES MODERATE PLEASE QUEUE UP
THOSE SUPPORT OPPOSITION. AB SIX
ONE SIX. OF COURSE PLAYED IN
GERMAN IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE. ZERO AT THIS TIME.
BUT ON THE LINE FOR SIXTY EIGHT
PLEASE GO AHEAD. KAREN MEMBERS.
BEHAVE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
COMPLETE WITH THE PATIENCE AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE
MORE THAT HAS JUST YOU ABOUT THE
WOMAN WATER LINE NUMBERS GIVEN.
NOT GOING TO LINE FOUR SEVEN
ZERO PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
EVENING MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
EARN HEALER ON BEHALF OF
MEMORIALCARE HEALTH SYSTEM IN
FRONT OF THIS. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE. QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AROUND. I JUST
WANT TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF
ALARM. THE CONCERNS WERE RAISED
ABOUT- PROPRIETARY INFORMATION
AND SOME OF THE CANARY ANTITRUST
TYPE WELL WHILE OR AT LEAST. AN
. DID YOU WANT TO TRADE
REGULATORY THE INFORMATION BEING
LIKELY TO THEM INTO THE AUTHOR
SUPPOSED ALL RIGHT TO GET A
BETTER SENSE OF HOW THOSE
COURSES AGO WHETHER WITH
OPPOSITION AND- IF YOU'RE YOU'RE
YOU'RE BASICALLY. CREATING
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE DOES OF A
WHOLE SAID INFORMATION WASN'T
DISCLOSED BEFORE AND WHAT THE
IMPLICATIONS MIGHT BE FOR- FOR.
THE BUSINESSES BUSINESSES RIGHTS
TO HAVE PROVIDE INFORMATION
REALLY INTO THEIR THEIR BUSINESS
MODEL. ARE YOU. ALL RIGHT. JERRY
OKAY YES WE CAN HEAR YOU ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU CENTER
ALLEN- YOU KNOW EXACTLY WE DO
DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE
REMARKS MADE BY THE OPPOSITION
WITH REGARDS TO THAT SO YOU KNOW
WE'LL JUST REITERATE WHEN THE
POINTS MADE EARLIER AND SOME OF
THE TO ALSO CLEAR AND- GREAT AND
ALSO SOMEBODY COMMITTEE STAFF.
WHO ARE LOOKING TO MAKE PUBLIC
HERE IS INFORMATION THAT IS A
COOL INTERPRETATION ALREADY
BEING MADE PUBLIC BY MANY OTHER
ACTORS IN THE HEALTHCARE
DELIVERY SYSTEM- AND FOR A LONG
TIME WE'VE SEEN BOTH HEALTH PLAN
AND HOSPITALS SKILLED NURSING
FACILITIES. CLINICS AND OTHERS
PROVIDE SIMILAR EQUIVALENT
INFORMATION AT THE CORPORATE
ORGANIZATION WIDE LEVEL I'M
SORRY INFORMATION THIS
INFORMATION HAS SERVED
INCREDIBLE PUBLIC POLICY GOALS.
OF HELPING US BETTER UNDERSTAND
WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING INTO
DELIVERING THE QUALITY CARE THAT
OUR COMMUNITIES NEED AND
DESERVE- WE DON'T SHARE THE
CONCERN THAT THIS INFORMATION IS
PROPRIETARY AND I WILL ALSO
TECHNOLOGY NOTE THAT BOTH MANY
STATES ACROSS MEDICAL AISLES AS
WELL AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
DO YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION
BEING REPORTED TODAY BY TO FOR
ANY OF OUR NONPROFIT- MEDICAL
GROUPS IN THE STATE- THEY ARE
REPORTING THIS INFORMATION TO
THE IRS RIGHT IN THOSE NINE
NINETY FORMS OR FORMS AT ANY ONE
OF US COULD ACCESS TODAY. PUBLIC
RECORD- ADDITIONALLY- FOR THOSE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT- FOR
SUMMARIZATION THAT HAVE CERTAIN
LESSONS OF THEIR HEALTH PLANS.
THEY REPORTER STEAMY SEE TODAY
AS SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS
MADE PUBLIC AND SO. THERE'S ONE
UP REALLY STRESSED THE FACT THAT
TYPE OF INFORMATION WE'RE
LOOKING TO MAKE PUBLIC HERE IS
CONSISTENT WITH INFORMATION
WE'RE READY MAKING PUBLIC ACROSS
EVERY SYSTEM. WE'VE NOT HAD ANY
ISSUES ARISE. RELATING TO ANY
SORT OF ANTI TRUST CONCERNS ARE
THE CONCERNS THAT WE THINK COULD
INFLUENCE NEGATIVELY CONTACT
ABILITY REALLY APPRECIATED THE
AMENITY GOT FROM SENATE HEALTH.
HELP US REAFFIRM THAT
COMMITMENT- IN THIS LEGISLATION
AND- ITS FUTURE WHEN YOU WHEN
YOU SAY THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH
HIS FAMOUS MADE YOU'RE YOU'RE
YOU'RE YOU'RE HAVING A
DISAGREEMENT OVER. THE EXTENT TO
WHICH THE REQUIRED DISCLOSURES
ARE TRULY. PROPRIETARY SIDE THAT
THEY- THE KEY CONFLICT- WELL IN
TERMS OF WEATHER AND THIS IN
FOR. ISN'T THAT WOULD HARM THE
ABILITIES OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR-
ACTIVITIES OF BUSINESS RIGHT- BE
AT THEIR ACTIVE ENGAGING WITH
CONTRACTING WITH PLANS FOR
ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION TO GO
SHE ASIANS WITH THE STATE. ALL
RIGHT- CENTERMAN. THEN SENATOR
YELLOW THEN SENATOR ALSO YEAH I
JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT
AND I MY BROTHER IS A DOCTOR-
HE'S- I KNOW HE'S SMALL
PRACTICES BEEN. LOOK AT LOT
NUMBER TIMES BY PRIVATE EQUITY
AND I KNOW THAT'S A PROBLEM IN
THE MEDICAL FIELD AND- I WOULD
JUST I'M LOOKING NOW SYSTEM
TRYING TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THE CLAIMS HERE
LIKE. WHAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION
GOING TO THE EITHER THE
OPPOSITION WITNESSES WOULD BE
POTENTIALLY- AT RISK HERE IN AND
I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING.
SUPPORTS RESPONSE TO THAT IF
THAT'S WITH THE PERMISSION THE
CHAIR. OF THE FIGHTERS STAND
YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING OPPOSITION
TO RESPOND YOUR QUESTION IS TO
WHAT I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM
THEM YET WHAT WHAT SPECIFIC
INFORMATION ARE YOU CONCERNED
ABOUT BECAUSE YOU'RE DESCRIBING
WITH A BROAD BRUSH THAT THIS
WILL LEAD TO. HORRIFIC
CONSEQUENCES. BUT I GUESS I'M
CURIOUS WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC
INFORMATION AT ISSUE THAT YOU'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT RELEASING. I
MISS THOMPSON YOU CAN RESPOND.
YES THEY USER OF THIS IS-
SUMMARIZED FINANCIAL DATA SO IT
IT IS. BUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY IN
THAT SUMMARIZED FINANCIAL DATA
ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT RELEASING
TO THE PUBLIC. I MEAN IT'S KIND
OF THE WHOLE CLOTH RIGHT I THINK
IT'S LESS OF A CONCERN- ABOUT
I'M ASKING ARE YOU KNOW WE A LOT
OF COMPANIES ISSUE PUBLIC
FINANCIAL SON ASKING
SPECIFICALLY WHAT. WHAT IN THAT
BROAD BRUSH ARE YOU CONCERNED
ABOUT. WELL I THINK IT'S IF YOU
LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL AUDIT
DISCLOSURES THAT COULD BE
ANYWHERE FROM- HOW MANY
PHYSICIANS THEY HAVE HEALTH OF
THE BUSINESS IF YOU'RE LOOKING
AT FOR PRIVATE EQUITY ANY
RESEARCH THAT THEY HAVE- THE
SOLVENCY. I KNOW CONTRACTED
RATES WERE PULLED OUT AND SENATE
HEALTH OF THOSE- A CERTAINLY A
CONCERN AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU
KIND OF PUT- THIS DATA FORWARD-
AND ALLOW- I THINK WE LACK AN
UNDERSTANDING OF. HOW THE PUBLIC
WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS
CONSIDERING ALL THE REGULATORS
ALREADY HAVE THIS DATA. AND
THAT- I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT
THE TREND OF PRIVATE EQUITY-
BUYING UP PHYSICIAN PRACTICES-
IN A MANNER. WHICH WE DON'T
THINK IS HEALTHY FOR THE WHOLE
HEALTH CARE ECOSYSTEM I THINK
IT'S MORE ALLOWING THE PRIVATE
EQUITY FIRMS TO HAVE ACCESS TO
THE FULL FINANCIAL DATA AND BE
ABLE TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT AS TO
THE OVERALL VALUATION OF A
MEDICAL GROUP. I THINK THAT THAT
IS THE CONCERN AND SO WE COULD
GO THROUGH YOU KNOW WE COULD DO
A BUT AN AUDIT FINANCIAL GO BY
LINE BY LINE. MOST OF THIS IS
PROPRIETARY SO WE DON'T HAVE A
TON OF EXAMPLES THAT WE CAN
SHARE WITH YOU- BASED ON ANTI
TRUST LAWS- BUT I THINK THAT
WOULD BE- YOU KNOW LOOK AT THE
WHOLE HEALTH OF THE BUSINESS AND
BEING ABLE FOR PRIVATE EQUITY
PULL THAT OUT ISN'T THERE. BUT
LET ME MISTER THOMPSON OF JUST
TO CLARIFY WHO THE REPRESENT A
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
SEE ME OKAY THANK YOU GREAT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER DESPITE I THINK
THAT. UNLESS YOU HAVE A RESPONSE
TO THE OPPOSITE AT A SUPPORT BUT
I DID NOT. RESPECTFULLY WE
DISAGREE AS TO KIND OF THE- OKAY
THE HARM THAT ALL BECAUSE OF
THIS- HAS PUBLIC DISGRACE IT'S
HARD I GUESS I'LL JUST COMMENT
LET'S LET'S. OKAY NOT
DISENGAGEMENT IT'S HARD FOR ME
TO SIT HERE AND NOT WITHOUT
SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF THE HARM IT
MIGHT CAUSE TO. YOU KNOW
UNDERSTAND. IT WHEN I CAN SEE
THE BENEFITS SO- I APPRECIATE
YOUR OF YOUR TESTIMONY. ALL
RIGHT TO SURROUND JEFF QUESTION.
IF I ACTUALLY WEEK WE GO TO-
SENATOR. YELLOW AND THEN SENATOR
ALSO THEN WILL COME BACK. THANK
YOU MISTER- ALL OF THOSE.
DETAILS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED NOT
WITHSTANDING. A YEAR AGO WHEN
THE OFFICE OF HEALTH CARE
AFFORDABILITY. WAS ESTABLISHED
IT WAS AGREED. THAT THE
INFORMATION WOULD BE HELD
CONFIDENTIAL. SPECIFICALLY JUST
A YEAR AGO. WHAT'S CHANGED. WELL
FOR ONE THE SPONSORED WEREN'T
INCLUDED IN THE GREEN AND SO
MAYBE THEY CAN CHIRLA BUT MORE
ON THAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE
KEY ASPECT BUT MAYBE SHE CAN
CHERNOBYL MORE ON THAT. THANK
YOU- SERVER RODRIGUEZ AND SO
PATIENT THE QUESTION HAPPY TO
WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT- CAN
PURCHASE ENTERED A FEW DIFFERENT
WAYS SO. FIRST OFF DO YOU WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE- WHERE THIS BILL
DIFFERS FROM WHERE THE
CONVERSATION WAS A YEAR AGO- AND
ONE APPRECIATE IN THE CONTEXT OF
THE OFFICE HEALTHCARE
AFFORDABILITY WE ARE SPEAKING
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT OTHER
PEOPLE COMING INTO THE OFFICE
HAVE PREFERRED ABILITY. DIRECTLY
FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT WOULD BE
THE CASE OF MEDICAL GROUPS OUR
PHYSICIAN ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY REPORTED
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF MANAGED
HEALTH CARE- AND IN THE CONTEXT
OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THEY
OPPOSITION. THAT WE HAVE TODAY
AND SOME OF THE SAME PLAYERS OF
YOUR PLUS AGO WE'RE SPEAKING TO
THE FACT THAT THEY WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT AND BALANCE THAT
WOULD BE CREATED. IF INFORMATION
WERE MADE PUBLIC FOR MEDICAL
GROUPS FIRST BEING- FOR
SUPPORTING J. O. H. CHI. BUT
THAT AT THE SAME TIME MEDICAL
GROUPS AND HISTORICALLY REPORTED
DMC WOULD BE STILL HELD UNDER
THE PRIOR AGREEMENT THAT WAS
RECOGNIZED BY MY COLLEAGUES AT
HEALTH ACCESS. ESTABLISHED WHEN-
DAMAGE HE WAS FIRST GETTING
STARTED ON FISCAL SOUNDED WORSE
VERSUS DALGLISH WAS AT THAT
TIME. THAT THAT MEDICAL GROUP
FORMATION BE HELD FROM PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE THE FEAR IN THE
CONVERSATION A YEAR PLUS AGO.
WAS THAT THERE BE ACTION
IMBALANCE CREATED IF WE ONLY
MADE PUBLIC INFORMATION
AMERICANS FIRST REPORTING. THIS
BILL BY COMPARISON TAKES A VERY
COMPREHENSIVE AN INTENTIONAL
APPROACH OF SAYING ACTUALLY
HEARD THAT ARGUMENT THAT
CONCERN. AND SO HERE WE'RE
TREATING ALL MEDICAL GROUP DATA.
FOR A LARGE METAL GROUPS IN THE
SAME WAY REGARDLESS IF YOU
HISTORICALLY REPORTED DAMAGE
SEE. OF YOUR FIRST REPORTING TO
EACH GUY. THAT INFORMATION TO BE
TREATED THE SAME WAY THAT
INFORMATION SHOULD BE MADE
PUBLIC- I WILL KNOW IT AND I
THINK MIGHT BE IMPORTANT IN THE
REMARKS MADE EARLIER. THE ONE OF
THE MEN'S WE TOOK AN ASSEMBLY
HEALTH COMMITTEE WAS TOOK
KNOWLEDGE THAT OUR INTERESTS
HERE ARE THE LARGE PLAYERS.
REALLY DOMINATING IN IMPACTING
THE COST CURVE. AND SO WITH THAT
WE HAVE OF ALREADY IN PLACE A
LIMITATION THAT INFORMATIONAL.
NOT BE MADE PUBLIC. FOR ME
GROUPS THAT HAVE LESS THAN FIVE.
FOR THERE'S ONE EGGNOG THAT IN
TERMS OF MAKING SURE IN
APPRECIATING THAT WE'RE NOT
LOOKING- TO REALLY. LOOK AT
OTHER SMALLER ENTITIES IN CAUSE
ANY NEW BURDENS ON THEM REALLY
LOOKING AT THE LARGEST PLAYERS
WHO WE KNOW ARE DRIVING THAT
COST CURVE. THE NEW YORK END.
DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT- SEIU IS
NOT. ANY PART OF THE-
CONVERSATION A YEAR AGO WELL AS
YOU ARE YOU IN MANY PLAYERS HAVE
BEEN NOTED I THINK EVERYONE
HEALTHCARE DELIVERY SOME PLAYED
SOME ROLE IN THE BROADER
CONVERSATION OVER MANY YEARS ON
THE OFFICE OF COURSE
PORTABILITY. NO I CAN HAVE
CONFIDENCE AS HE AYE YOU WAS NOT
PART OF A DEAL THAT SAID WE ARE
NEVER CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATIONS. FOR THE
IMPORTANCE OF MAKING MEDICAL
GROUP DATA TRANSPARENT THAT IS
BEEN A POSITION OF SEIU DATING
BACK TO THE LAUNCH OF DME TO
SAY. THAT A STILL POSITION OF
SEIU THAT IN THAT INFORMATION
ALONG WITH POSSIBLE INFORMATION
HEALTH INFORMATION OTHER
INFORMATION. SYMPORTER FRAZIER
STANDING WHERE PUBLIC DOLLARS
ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT
THE QUALITY CARE WE NEED IN OUR
COMMUNITIES DID YOU VOICE. USE
ME DID YOU VOICE YOUR
OPPOSITION. TO THAT PART OF THE
AGREEMENT A YEAR AGO. WELL TO BE
CLEAR THE BILL THAT CAME IN
PRINTING YEAR AGO HAD ALREADY.
WAS READY REFLECTION OF
CONVERSATION HAPPENED BETWEEN
SOME OF THE PLAYERS YOU'VE HEARD
FROM TODAY. AND THE
ADMINISTRATION. SO S. YEAH YOU
WAS AS- AS MANY IN THIS ROOM
WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE SOUTH OF
THE OFFICE HEALTHCARE
PORTABILITY. DOES THAT ANSWER
QUESTIONS AT A NEO OR OR THIS
IS. WHERE YOU HAVE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.
AND THEN- CENTER THE RUSSELL.
I'M REALLY GLAD YOU- LAST
SPEAKER BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT-
PUBLIC DOLLARS- HEALTH CARE IS
MORE THAN JUST AN INDUSTRY.
HEALTH CARE IS ABOUT. ALL OF US.
AND OUR ABILITY TO STAY ALIVE TO
GET BETTER. I MEAN THIS IS A
REAL HUMAN ISSUE IT'S NOT JUST A
BUSINESS DECISION IT'S A NOT
JUST AN INDUSTRY DECISION THIS
IS ABOUT ALL OF US IT'S ABOUT
OUR WELL BEING OUR PUBLIC WELL
BEING. SO WHAT BOTHERS ME IS.
THAT ON THE ONE HAND HEALTH CARE
IS DESCRIBED IN THE VERY HUMAN
TERMS BUT ON THE OTHER HAND.
SOMETIMES IS TREATED LIKE A
BUSINESS SOMETIMES IS TREATED
LIKE AN INDUSTRY. WHEN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA INVESTED CLOSE TO
THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS.
BILLION DOLLARS. INTO PROGRAM
AFTER PROGRAM AFTER PROGRAM AND
NOW INCLUDING THE MCO TAX I MEAN
. OF MONEY ANNUALLY TO SEVENTY
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY TO
GROW GRADUATE MEDICAL EDUCATION
THROUGH THE UC'S HUNDRED FIFTY
BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY TO
SUPPORT DESIGNATED PUBLIC COST
BILLS SEVEN HUNDRED TEN MILLION
DOLLARS TO SUPPORT HOSPITALS IN
GENERAL. THREE HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS- TO SUPPORT DISTRESSED
HOSPITAL LOAN PROGRAM- WITH A
TWO NINE BILLION DOLLARS TO
SUPPORT PHYSICIANS SERVICES I
MEAN WE COULD JUST GO ON AND ON
AND ON WITH ALL OF THE MONEY
THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO. IN
HEALTH CARE AND TO- TO EXPECT
DIDN'T OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION
I DON'T THINK IT'S ASKING TOO
MUCH WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE
FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS IN THE
HEALTH CARE SECTOR BECAUSE OUR
DOLLARS ARE GOING INTO THAT SO.
IT IT DOES IT'S THE SAME ISSUE
THAT KEEPS COMING UP AROUND.
HOSPITALS THAT ARE HAVING A
DIFFICULT TIME IT'S AS IF ALL
HOSPITALS ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT
TIME NO SOME ARE AND WE SHOULD
TALK ABOUT DOES THE SAME THING
HERE IS THERE'S INFORMATION THAT
THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE-
OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS. ENORMOUS
AMOUNTS OF MONEY GO TO THOSE- IN
GENERAL THE HEALTH CARE- A
SECTOR AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE
RIGHT TO KNOW. IN RETURN WHAT
DOES WHAT THE FINANCIAL
SITUATION IS OF THOSE I KNOW I'M
NOT GETTING INTO THE NITTY
GRITTY OF IT BUT I THINK THAT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT IS THIS IS NOT
A BUSINESS THAT'S OUT THERE ON
ITS OWN. DISCONNECTED FROM OUR
TAX DOLLARS THIS IS HEALTH CARE
A HUMAN A HUMAN- NEED THAT WE
ALL HAVE AND SO I JUST WANT TO
PUT THAT OUT IN THE DISCUSSION
BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS NOT. A
SPECIFIC COMPANY THAT IS DOING-
KERRY NOW BUSINESS ON ITS OWN IN
THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THAT WE
ARE NOT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO
DO WITH IT SO I REALLY SUPPORT.
I THINK THIS IS SORT OF A
MINIMAL NEXT STEP WHEN IT COMES
TO- FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR ALSO NO
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS-
JUST. A SINISTER MOVES THE BILL
JUST JUST ONE QUESTION- AND THEN
I'LL DIRECT THIS TO EITHER THE
PROPONENTS OF THE OP PONENS. THE
DISCLOSURE- DOES IT REVEAL WHAT
AN INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE OR
PARTICIPANT MAKES. ON
RESPECTFULLY IT DOES NOT AND
THAT IS OUR STRONG OPINION
MATTER AYE I'VE GOT ACTUALLY
TALKING TO ME TODAY THE
HIGHLIGHT WELL WHAT IS DISCLOSED
BY HOSPITALS ALL RIGHT NOW AND
IT'S A SUMMARY FIGURE TO ONE
FIGURE. FOR ALL PHYSICIAN COSTS
AND SERVICES AND AGAIN BECAUSE
WE'RE NOT LOOKING I UNDERSTAND
THAT ALL DO SO DOES IT BUT IT
DID AND I THINK I GOT YOUR
ANSWER THE ANSWER IS NO NOW YES
OKAY GOT IT. ALL RIGHT ANYBODY
DISAGREE WITH THAT ANSWER SAYING
NO ONE DISAGREEING WITH THAT
ANSWER- SELLING NUMBER RODRIGUEZ
YOU MAY CLOSE THANK VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TIME AND RESPECT LAST
FIVE. OKAY THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
THEN TO COUNSEL IF YOU CALL ROLE
THIS IS AB SIX ONE SIX BYE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RODRIGUEZ WITH A
MOTION OF DO PASSED TO THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
UMBERG. AYE AMBER AYE WILK.
ALLEN ASHBY. ASHBY I CABALLERO.
THE RUSSELL DID AYE SO I
LAYERED. LAYERED AYE MIN. AND I
KNEW LOW. THE LOW NOTES STERN.
STERN AYE WIENER. YOU GOT SIXTY
ONE SO FAR WITH MEMBERS MISSING
I'D SIX WON'T PUT THAT ON CALL
NEXT WE HAVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BLANCA RUBIO I'M SORRY. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WICKS IS GOING TO PRESENT
FOR SOMEONE OVER BLANCA RUBIO.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE- THREE
OTHER BILLS PRESENTED BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WICKS THANK YOU
ASSEMBLY MEMBER THE BURKE MISTER
CHAIR. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE
SPENDING ALL DAY IN THIS
COMMITTEE OKAY. WELL I'M NOT
GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON IT ALL
RIGHT THIS. THANK I LOVE TO
VISIT THE SENATE OKAY AT I'M-
PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF A
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RUBIO THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR AT- AND SENATORS
FOR THE UP TO THE PRESENT AB
SEVENTEEN SEVENTY ONE ON BEHALF
OF SOME MEMBER RUBIO A BILL THAT
WOULD INCREASE BUSINESS SECURITY
FOR LICENSED CANNABIS RETAILERS.
OVER THE YEARS AS A MEMBER RUBIO
AND MANY AUTHORS PRESENT HERE OF
SPONSORED SUPPORTED AND
ADVOCATED FOR ADDITIONAL FORSMAN
AGAINST ILLICIT OPERATORS IN THE
CANNABIS MARKET. UNFORTUNATELY
ILLICIT MARKET HAS CONTINUED TO
GROW DESPITE THE ADDITIONAL
FORSMAN STEPS WE'VE TAKEN IN THE
PAST YEARS THERE ARE SEVERAL
CLEAR INDICATORS OF THIS TOLL
THE OF THE TOLL THIS IS TAKING
UNLICENSED OPERATORS CURRENTLY
FOUR TO FIVE CANNABIS PURCHASES
MADE IN CALIFORNIA ARE MADE ON
THE ILLICIT MARKET. THIS IS LED
TO LARGE MULTI STATE OPERATORS
CHARACTERISING CALIFORNIA'S
OPERATING CONSTITUTION AS
BRUTAL. AND INVESTMENT CLIMATE
AS HOSTILE. IN MAY TWENTY TWENTY
TWO THERE WERE CLOSE TO FIFTEEN
HUNDRED BRANDS ON THE MARKET
LESS THAN A YEAR LATER ABOUT A
THOUSAND OF THOSE REMAIN. BEYOND
LAW ENFORCEMENT HELLO CALIFORNIA
MUST THINK CREATIVELY ON HOW TO
EMPOWER THE LEGAL LICENSE MARKET
BY GIVING STANDING IN COURT TO
LICENSE OPERATORS ONLY. AB
SEVENTEEN AB ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE
PROVIDE SUPPORT TO OUR LEGAL
BUSINESSES. AND GIVE THE UP FOR
INJUNCTIVE RELIEF SO DESPERATELY
NEEDED IN THE SPACE THIS
MEASURES MEASURES YET ANOTHER
TOOL TO IMPOSE ADDITIONAL
PRESSURE ON ILLICIT. OPERATORS
WHILE EITHER ENCOURAGING THEM TO
SEEK A LICENSE OR LEAVE THE
MARKET TO LEGAL OPERATORS. AB
SEVENTY ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE IS A
UNIQUE SOLUTION TO AN INCREDIBLY
COMPLEX PROBLEM WITH NO
OPPOSITION AND BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT. WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY
BRIEFLY IS ALBERTO THREE COME
BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO
IMPERIAL. COUNTY JOINT LABOR
MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH AS YOU NOTED THERE'S
NO OPPOSITION YES I REMEMBER
THREE EXCUSE ME- MYSTERY GO.
THREE RIVERS FINE. MAJORITY
LEADER OLD HABITS DIE HARD RIGHT
GOOD AFTERNOON- MISTER CHAIRMAN
SENATORS. ABOUT A TRIP COMING UP
FOR THE DELIVER MEASURE
COMMITTEES MENTIONED BY THE-
THERE ARE. SOME MEMBER. WICKS
AND ALSO UNITED FOR COMMERCIAL
WORKERS WAS PROCESS COUNCIL BOTH
SPONSOR THE BILL. WE'VE BEEN
THROUGH THIS IS THE FOURTH
POLICY COMMITTEE THE BILL IS
VERY NARROW NOW. I THINK IT'S A-
IT'S A GREAT- IT'S A GREAT TOOL
POTENTIALLY FOR LICENSE
OPERATORS. IN SPECIALIZED THE
FACT THAT THEY CAN FORCE MEANT
WELL THE THING LOCALISING KEPT
UP WITH ILLICIT OPERATORS.
RESPECT RESTAURANT OKAY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN SUPPORT
OF. AB ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE SEEING
KNOWN APPROACH TO MY FULLEST GO
TO THE OPPOSITION OF YOUR
OPPOSED AB ELEVEN SEVEN ONE
PLEASE APPROACH MIGHT FENCING
KNOWN APPROACH TO MICHAEL IS
TURN THE PHONE LINES. MODERATE
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE WORDS
SUPPORT OPPOSITION IT AB ELEVEN
SEVENTY ONE. THANK YOU FOR
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION OF EIGHTY
ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE YOU MAY PRESS
ONE AND THEN ZERO. WE'LL GO TO
LINE FOUR OH NINE. AFTERNOON
MISTER CAN MEMBERS ELIZABETH
KNOWS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF
SANTA BARBARA BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS THANK YOU. THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE
NO FURTHER SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
AND KILL ALL RIGHT LET'S BE BACK
COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS- NO
ALL RIGHT- JUST TO NOTE THAT THE
REPUBLICANS OUTNUMBER THE
DEMOCRATS TO ONE RIGHT NOW IN
THIS COMMITTEE- I REALLY CLEAR
THE ROOM HERE. BECAUSE THIS IS
IT IS THERE IS THERE A MOTION.
ON YEAH ARE MOVING SAID IN ELO
I'M SORRY SENATORS CENTER- WILK
MOVES THE BILL- WHICH I CLOSE
THAT FASTER NAY VOTE RIGHT THANK
YOU. FELT YOU CANCEL PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL THIS IS A BE ELEVEN
SEVENTY ONE BY A SENATOR BLANCA
RUBIO WITH- A MOTION OF DO
PASSED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ON
BURKE. HI I'M BURGER AYE WILK HI
WILK AYE ALLEN. ASHBY KABIR. THE
RUSSELL. LAYERED LAYERED I MEN.
NEW LOW I'VE NEW LOW AYE STERN
STERN AYE WIENER. NINE MIN MAN I
THINK YOU. SIX TWO ZERO WITH
MEMBERS MISSING ALL RIGHT. NOW
WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED TO FORTY
FOUR FORTY FIVE AND FORTY SIX.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AB I'LL
START WITH AB ELEVEN NINETEEN.
ALMOST TWO IN THREE THAT CASES
IN CALIFORNIA ARE DEFAULT
JUDGMENTS IN FAVOR OF DEBT
COLLECTORS TOO OFTEN CONSUMER
CASES THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE
DEFENDANTS NEVER RECEIVE A
NOTICE FROM THE COURT. OR THEY
HAVE WORK OR CHILDCARE COMMITTEE
CAN'T SKIP OR THE DIFFICULTY
NAVIGATING THE COURT SYSTEM AND
ARE SIMPLY UNAWARE THEY MUST
TAKE ACTION AB ELEVEN NINETEEN
REFORMS THE CONSUMER DEBT
COLLECTION PROCESS TO MAKE IT
LESS LIKELY A BENCH WARRANT WILL
BE ISSUED FOR A DEFENDANT'S
ARREST. THIS BILL PROVIDES OUT
ALTERNATIVE WAYS FOR A DEFENDANT
TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR
ASSETS PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY
ARE INDIGENT. AND NOT SUBJECT TO
COLLECTION AND IF THE DEFENDANT
IS UNABLE TO SUBMIT THIS
INFORMATION AB ELEVEN NINETEEN
REQUIRES A COURT TO ISSUE. AN
ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE GIVING THE
PERSON A FINAL CHANCE TO PROVIDE
A REASONABLE EXPLANATION FOR ANY
FAILURE TO APPEAR BEFORE THE
COURT ISSUES BENCH WARRANT. AB
ELEVEN NINETEEN DOES NOT AND THE
RESPONSIBILITY CONSUMERS HAVE TO
SETTLE THAT THEY- INSTEAD
PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE WAY FOR
LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS
ESPECIALLY TO REPORT. A COURT
AND DECAL TO REPORT TO A CORD
AND DEBT COLLECTORS ABOUT THEIR
ASSETS WHILE STILL RESERVING THE
RIGHT OF A COURT TO ISSUE A
BENCH WARRANT WHEN IT IS TRULY
NECESSARY. WELL WE HAVE NOT
REMOVED ALL OPPOSITION MY OFFICE
AND OUR SPONSORS ARE CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO
ADDRESS REMAINING CONCERNS WE
CONSTRUCT A BETTER BALANCE IN
OUR LEGAL SYSTEM. FOR CONSUMERS
TO RESOLVE THEIR DEBT CASES
WITHOUT FACING THE THREAT OF
ARREST OR JAIL WITH ME TO
TESTIFY BRIEFLY ON BEHALF OF THE
BILL'S CO SPONSORS. IS ADD-
DANIELLE KENDO KISER
RESPECTFULLY ASK PRIVATE. THANK
YOU. GOOD EVENING THURMOND-
DANIEL CANO KAISER ON BEHALF OF
THE CO SPONSORS OF THE BILL
CALIFORNIA LOW INCOME CONSUMER
COALITION. AND THE NATIONAL
CONSUMER LAW CENTER WHEN ONE OF
FIRST OF ALL THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR CARRYING THIS BILL. WHICH
HAS A VERY SIMPLE GOAL TO MAKE
CLEAR THAT NO ONE SHOULD BE
ARRESTED OR FACE THE THREAT OF
ARREST. OR A CONSUMER DEBT. AB
ELEVEN NINETEEN DOES NOT TAKE
AWAY ANY COLLECTION TOOLS IT
SIMPLY GIVES LOW INCOME AN IMAGE
INDIGENT CALIFORNIANS THE
ABILITY TO SHOW THEIR COLLECTION
PROOF. WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO
COURT. BY HAVING THEM SIGN A AN
AFFIDAVIT- UNDER PENALTY OF
PERJURY. THE COURT CAN STILL
ULTIMATELY COMPEL ATTENDANCE IF
LOW INCOME CONSUMERS FAILED TO
FILE A STATEMENT. OR IF THE
CREDITOR PROVIDES EVIDENCE THAT
SOMETHING ON THE CONSUMER'S
FINANCIAL STATEMENT. IS MISSING
OR INCORRECT- WE'VE HAD
EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
JUDICIAL COUNCIL. AND WITH THE
STAKEHOLDERS- WE HAVE WE- WE
WILL BE TAKING AMENDMENTS I
BELIEVE IN APPROPRIATIONS AND-
WE ARE DRIVERS THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU OTHERS IN
SUPPORT OF AB ELEVEN NINETEEN
PLEASE PROVIDE FINANCING KNOWN
APPROACH LET'S COOLEY OPPOSITION
IF YOUR POST AB ELEVEN NINETEEN
PLEASE PRESS MIKE FOR. GOOD
EVENING MISTER CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
THE PRIVILEGE OF ALLOWING ME TO.
TESTIFY TODAY I'M GRETCHEN
LYNCHING BURGER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
JUDGMENT PROFESSIONALS. AND WE
RESPECTFULLY REMAIN OPPOSED TO
AB ONE ONE ONE NINE. WE THINK
THE AUTHOR AND THE STAFF IN THE
SPONSORS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
COMMUNICATIONS AND WE EXPECTS
MORE. WE STAND OPPOSED. TO ANY
INTERRUPTION TO AN ALREADY
ISSUED AND SERVED. COURT ORDER
TO APPEAR FOR EXAMINATION.
EXAMINING A DEBTOR. IS IT TO
UNCOVER THE SOURCES OF THEIR
ASSETS TO SATISFY THE JUDGMENT
IS THE FOUNDATION OF JUDGMENT
ENFORCEMENT. WE THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE THOROUGH
ANALYSIS. AND WOULD LIKE TO
PROVIDE A LITTLE CLARITY
REGARDING CIVIL WARRANTS.
CRIMINAL CONTENT UNDER PENAL
CODE ONE SIXTY SIX. DOES NOT
APPLY IN CIVIL JUDGMENT DEBTOR
EXAMINATIONS. FAILURE TO APPEAR
FOR EXAMINATION IS NOT A CRIME.
BUILDERS ARE NEVER JAILED I'VE
BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWENTY YEARS
NEVER HAD A CIVIL BETTER PUT IN
JAIL. THE SHERIFF'S CANNOT PUT A
CIVIL BETTER IN JAIL WITH
CRIMINAL DEFENDANTS THERE'S NO
PLACES IN THE JAIL TO SEGREGATE
CRIMINAL OR CIVIL FROM CRIMINAL
. THE COURTS GIVE ALL CIVIL
DEBTORS MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES
TO COMPLY WITH THE COURT ORDERED
ORDERED TO APPEAR. BEFORE THEY
EVEN GO TO A WARRANT AND THE
CIVIL WARRANTS ARE JUST A
CITATION TO APPEAR WHEN THE
SHERIFF'S GO OUT AND GIVE US A
WARRANT. THEY JUST GIVE THEM A
CITATION TO APPEAR THEY DO NOT
PUT THEM INTO CUSTODY. SOME
UNSCRUPULOUS CREDITORS MAY
WRONGFULLY THREATEN DEBTORS WITH
JAIL AS THE ANALYSIS STATED.
HOWEVER THE SOLUTION IS TO
PENALIZE. THOSE CREDITORS BUT
DON'T HANDCUFF THE ETHICAL
CREDITORS CREDITORS FOR THE
ACTIONS OF A FEW. OF WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A NO VOTE
UNLESS THE NEW FINANCIAL
STATEMENT IDEA IS USED ELSEWHERE
IN THE LAW THANK YOU I'M
AVAILABLE IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS. THANKS VERY MUCH ALL
RIGHT OTHERS WHO OPPOSED AB
ELEVEN NINETEEN PLEASE APPROACH
SAYING NO ONE APPROACHED THE
MICROPHONE. LET'S TURN THE PHONE
LINES MODERATOR PLEASE QUEUE UP
THOSE WORDS SUPPORT OPPOSITION
AB ELEVEN NINETEEN. YEAH MY FISH
MAKE A COMMENT IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THE
NERO AT THE TIME. AND ENERGY AND
. I JUST HAD TO GET UP ON MY OWN
MOTHER LINE NUMBERS GIVEN WITHIN
THE. CONNECT THE LINE FOR
SEVENTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
FOUR SEVENTY FIVE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN.
NO ONE ELSE. ALL RIGHT GREAT
LET'S BRING BACK MANY QUESTIONS
BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. NO
QUESTIONS NO COMMENTS IS THERE
MOTION SENATORS THERMALS THE
BILL ALL RIGHT. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR AN AYE
VOTE ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH GREAT- MADAM SECRETARY IF
YOU WOULD CALL THE ROLL ON AB
ELEVEN NINETEEN MOVED BY
SENATORS STERN. THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER FORTY FOUR ELEVEN
NINETEEN. MOTION IS TO PASS THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS UMBERG HI
NUMBER I WILL GO. LOOK NO ALAN.
ASHBY CABALLERO TO WRESTLE.
CLEARED MAN. MAN I NEED LOW
MILANO STERN. STERN AYE WIENER.
THREE TO TWO. THREE TWO TWO ALL
RIGHT WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL
GREAT ON NEXT- AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR GREAT THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS AND-
COMMITTEE STAFF AND FOR THOSE OF
YOU THAT ARE STILL ON THE-
RESHOOT EVERTON'S ATTENDANCE
HERE- THIRTEEN NINETY FOURS-
BEEN A- LATE SOMEONE OF AN
EMOTIONALLY WROUGHT BILL
EXCESSIVE HEAVY TOPIC- BUT ONE
THAT I THINK IS ACTUALLY
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT GIVEN THE
SORT OF NEW WORLD ORDER ORDER
THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE LIVING IN
IN TERMS OF THEIR EXPOSURE TO
SOCIAL MEDIA THE POTENTIAL HARMS
THAT EXISTS THERE- COMMERCIAL
SEXUAL EXPLOITATION OF MINORS AS
A RAMPANT IN FAST GROWING.
PROBLEM THREE OF THE NATION'S
THIRTEEN HIGH INTENSITY CHILD
PROSTITUTION AREAS AS IDENTIFIED
BY THE FBI OR LOCATED IN
CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES SAN
FRANCISCO IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA.
AND 202065% OF CHILD VICTIMS
VICTIMS. RECRUITED AND SEX
ACTIVITY- CAME OUT OF A FACEBOOK
AND INSTAGRAM. CHILD SEXUAL
ABUSE MATERIAL COMMONLY REFERRED
TO AS C. SAM IS TRAGICALLY
PERVASIVE ON THE INTERNET AND
NOT ONLY IN ITS ILLICIT CORNERS.
BUT LIKE THE SO CALLED DARK WEB
BUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
THAT ARE USED EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THIS TRAGEDY IS COMPOUNDED BY
THE FACT THAT CERTAIN WEBSITES
AND APPLICATIONS ARE NOT ONLY A
CONVENIENT MEANS FOR SHARING C.
SAM. BUT ARGUED FOR INDUCING ITS
PRODUCTION ACTUALLY RECRUITING
VICTIMS OFF THE PLATFORMS.
LISTENING TO THE PLEA OF THE
PRESIDENCY OF THE NATIONAL
CENTER FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED
CHILDREN. NICKNAMED ARE KNOWN AS
NICK NICK WHEN PRESENTING THAT
IN CONGRESS THIS FEBRUARY- THE
PRESIDENT SAID IT IS NO LONGER
FEASIBLE. TO RELY SOLELY ON
ONLINE PLATFORMS TO ADOPT
VOLUNTARY MEASURES ESPECIALLY
GIVEN THE NEAR COMPLETE IMMUNITY
FOR ACTIVITY ON THEIR SITES. OR
TO HOPE THAT THEY WILL DESIGN
THEIR PLATFORMS TO AVOID.
PRECIPITATING DANGERS TO
CHILDREN FROM SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION THEISMANN AND RE
VICTIMIZATION. IF THE UNITED
STATES IS GOING TO COMMIT TO
PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN ONLINE
LEGISLATION IS OUR ONLY PATH
FORWARD TO UPDATING CURRENT
LAWS. REGULATE THE DESIGN OF
ONLINE PLATFORMS TO REQUIRE
CHILD SAFETY MEASURES CREATE
MEANINGFUL TRANSPARENCY IN
EFFORTS TO COMBAT ONLINE CHILD
SEXUAL EXPLOITATION. AND PROVIDE
NEW REMEDIES FOR SURVIVORS AND
IF YOU'LL SEE I HAD- PASSED OUT
YOU'LL SEE THIS THE IMAGE THAT
YOU GUYS GOT HERE- THAT CAME OUT
OF THE WALL STREET JOURNAL THERE
WAS- INVESTIGATIVE PIECE A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO. I'M LOOKING AT
THIS ISSUE- RESEARCHERS FOUND
THAT INSTAGRAM ENABLE PEOPLE TO
SEARCH. EXPLICIT HASHTAGS SUCH
AS- HASH TAG. PATTO ****. AND
HASH TAG PRETEEN SEX AND CONNECT
THEM TO ACCOUNTS THAT USE THE
TERMS TO ADVERTISE CHILD SEX
MATERIAL FOR SALE. AND AT THE
RIGHT PRICE CHILDREN ARE
AVAILABLE FOR IN PERSON MEETUPS
THIS IS HAPPENING ON OUR SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS AS INVESTIGATED
BY THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. THEY
ALSO FOUND- FACEBOOK- IDENTIFIED
SEX ABUSE CONTENT AND- SAYS HERE
AT THE TOP YOU'LL READ THESE
RESULTS MAY CONTAIN IMAGES OF
CHILD SEX ABUSE CHILD SEX ABUSE
OR VIEWING SEXUAL IMAGERY OF
CHILDREN CAN LEAD TO
IMPRISONMENT. AND OTHER SEVERE
PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES THIS ABUSE
CAN CAUSE EXTREME HARM TO
CHILDREN AND SEARCHING AND
VIEWING SUCH MATERIAL ADDS TO
THAT HARM. SO YOU CAN CLICK TO
GET RESOURCES OR YOU CAN JUST
SEE THE RESULTS ANYWAY. YOU CAN
SEE THAT WARNING THAT YOU MIGHT
BE SEEING THIS IMAGERY AND YOU
CAN SAY YEAH I WANT TO CONTINUE
SEE THAT IMAGERY. THAT IS NOT
RESPONSIBLE CORPORATE BEHAVIOR.
AND SO THAT IS REALLY WHAT THIS
BILL IS ABOUT. AS PROPOSED TO BE
AMENDED. IN THE COMMITTEE TODAY
AND I WANNA- ACKNOWLEDGE THE
HARD WORK OF THE COMMITTEE AND
THE CHAIR. ON THIS AND I WILL BE
TAKING THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
TODAY- AND I KNOW MISTER
CHAIRMAN YOU AND I DISCUSSED
THIS OVER THE WEEKEND- I WANT TO
WORK ON A WAY ON HOW TO ADDRESS
THE APPLICATION OF KNOWINGLY- AS
THE BILL IF THE BILL MOVES OUT
TODAY. AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON THAT
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING ANY
JAILBREAK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT
I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE ON THE
BILL WITH ARE. THE UP.
OPPOSITION AS WELL AS THE
SPONSORS BUT I DO WANNA.
CONTINUE TO REFINE THAT AS THE
BILL MOVES FORWARDS- BUT AS
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED IN
COMMITTEE TODAY. AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR HOLD SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS LIABLE FOR KNOWINGLY
FACILITATING AIDING OR ABETTING.
CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING AND
REQUIRES A PLATFORM TO PREVENT
RE VICTIMIZATION OF CHILD
SURVIVORS THE MEASURE PROPOSES
TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES IN
TWO WAYS FIRST THE BILL WOULD
REQUIRE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
TO PROVIDE A MECHANISM FOR USERS
TO REPORT C. SAM. IN WHICH THEY
ARE DEPICTED. PLATFORMS WOULD
HAVE THIRTY DAYS TO REASONABLY
DETERMINE THAT THE MATERIAL IS
HE SAM AND BLOCK IT FROM
REPAIRING. SECOND THE BILL WOULD
PROVIDE VICTIMS OF COMMERCIAL
SEXUAL EXPLOITATION THE RIGHT TO
SUE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. FOR
DEPLOYING FEATURES THAT WERE A
SUBSTANTIAL FACTOR IN CAUSING
THEIR EXPLOITATION. I WANT TO
THANK THE- IN ADDITION TO THE
SPONSORS BUT ALSO THE OPPOSITION
TECHNET FOR COMING TO THE TABLE.
AND NEGOTIATING AMENDMENTS THIS
BILL IS STILL A WORK IN
PROGRESS- AND I COMMITTEE
GAUGING DEEPLY WITH DISCUSSIONS
OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS. OUT
WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY IS KENNY
PEER OF COMMON SENSE MEDIA. AND
ASHLEY BRYAN CO FOUNDER AND CEO
OF C. OF THREE STRANDS GLOBAL
FOUNDATION WE ALSO THAT HOWARD.
SENIOR COUNSEL AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF SAN DIEGO SCHOOL OF LAW.
SCHOOL OF LOS CHILDREN'S
ADVOCACY IS TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU. FLEISCHER'S THANK YOU
CHAIR AMERICA AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AND THE AUTHOR ASSEMBLY.
AND THEN WICKS AND THREE STRANDS
GLOBAL FOUNDATION HAS BEEN
COMBATTING ALL TYPES OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING THROUGH PREVENTION
WORK FOR THIRTEEN YEARS. TO DATE
WE HAVE SERVED EIGHT HUNDRED AND
SIXTY FOUR SURVIVORS AT RISK
INDIVIDUALS. AND EDUCATED ALMOST
A MILLION STUDENTS. WE SEEN
FIRST HAND THIS PUBLIC HEALTH
CRISIS AND THE TOLL IT IS TAKING
ON OUR CHILDREN. AND I STRONGLY
ASK YOU TO SUPPORT AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR. HUMAN TRAFFICKING A
CRIME WHERE INDIVIDUALS PROFIT
FROM THE EXPLOITATION OF OUR
MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS IS
AMONG THE WORLD'S FASTEST.
GROWING CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.
TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS
CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR LIVES
EASIER. WE FIND OURSELVES IN A
DIFFICULT CROSSROADS IN THE
FIGHT TO DEFEND CHILDREN FROM
SEX ABUSE. WITH THE EXPLOSION ON
THE INTERNET ONLINE
COMMUNICATION AND SOCIAL MEDIA
HUMAN TRAFFICKERS HAVE FOUND A
NEW PATHWAY TO EXPLOIT
INDIVIDUALS. SINCE TWO THOUSAND
AND ONE. CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE
MATERIAL C. SAM. REPORTS FOR
THAT FROM THE NATIONAL CENTER
FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED
CHILDREN HAVE INCREASED BY A
FACTOR OF SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND.
TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. IN
TWO THOUSAND ONE NICK MAKE
RECEIVED JUST FOUR HUNDRED AND
TWENTY ONE C. SAM REPORTS. BY
TWENTY TWENTY TWO THAT NUMBER
HAD INCREASED TO THIRTY TWO
MILLION REPORTS. ONLINE
ENTICEMENT COVERS A BROAD
SPECTRUM OF VICTIMIZATION OF
RIGHTY OF MOTIVES AND TACTICS
AND OCCURS ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS. OFTEN ONLINE. EVEN
WHEN A CHILD IS REMOVED FROM AN
ABUSIVE SITUATION THEIR ABUSE
LIVES ON FOREVER. ONLINE MAKING
RECOVERY DIFFICULT OR EVEN
IMPOSSIBLE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE
RE VICTIMISED WITH EVERY VIEWING
AND ARE OFTEN RECOGNIZED IN
PUBLIC IN JOB INTERVIEWS AND THE
PERSONAL LIVES. FROM THEIR
ONLINE ABUSE MATERIAL EVERY
DIGITAL PLATFORM WHERE YOU CAN
UPLOAD A PHOTO CAN BE USED TO
SHARE C. SAM. THIS IS CREATED
THIS HEALTH CRISIS. EVERY DAY AT
THREE STRANDS WE HAVE THE
PRIVILEGE OF WALKING ALONG
SURVIVORS WE'VE HEARD FIRSTHAND
THE STORIES OF HOW SURVIVORS ARE
MAD ONLINE BY SOMEONE THEY
THOUGHT WAS A FRIEND. SOMEONE
WHO LOVES THEM. OUR SURVIVOR
WHOSE STORY ENDS IN TRAGEDY
BECAUSE THEIR IMAGES WERE SPREAD
ACROSS THE INTERNET AND THEY SEE
NO END OR NO HOPE. WE'RE ASKING
YOU RESPECTFULLY FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU TERRY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS KENNY PEER
WITH COMMON SENSE MEDIA NATIONAL
NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO MAKING
THE DIGITAL WORLD ACR PLACE FOR
KIDS AND FAMILIES. WE ARE PROUD
CO SPONSORS OF AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR AMONG THE COALITION
TO PROTECT CALIFORNIA CONSIGN.
AND BIGGEST MEMBER WICKS FOR
OFFERING SUCH CRITICAL
LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THE
SOARING RATES OF CHILD SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION. AND TRAFFICKING
ONLINE BY HOLDING SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS ACCOUNTABLE TO
SURVIVORS. ACCORDING TO OUR MOST
RECENT RESEARCH ADOLESCENT GIRLS
SPEND OVER TWO HOURS PEDANTIC
TALK YOUTUBE AND SNAPCHAT. AND
MORE THAN NINETY MINUTES ON
INSTAGRAM AND MESSAGING APPS.
THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE
ALL AWARE THAT SEXUAL ABUSE
EXPLOITATION AND TRAFFICKING OF
CHILDREN AREN'T ORIGINATING. ON
OTHER PLATFORMS. FACEBOOK EVEN
FOUND QUOTE OUR PLATFORM ENABLES
ALL THREE STAGES OF HUMAN
EXPLOITATION LIFECYCLE
RECRUITMENT FACILITATION AND
EXPLOITATION. WE ALSO SEE THAT
ON OTHER APPS ESPECIALLY IN LIVE
STREAMS. WHERE YOUNG USERS ARE
ASKED TO PERFORM ACTS THE TOTAL
LINE OF CHILD **** IN RETURN-
FOR TO TALK GIPSON OTHER REWARDS
. CALIFORNIA HAS AN OBLIGATION
TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. AND OUR
STATE LEGISLATURE MUST HOLD
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
ACCOUNTABLE AND BUILD A C. FOR
DIGITAL ECOSYSTEM. FOR KIDS AND
TEENS THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION AND WE URGE YOU
JUST VÚI RT THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR PLEASE APPROACH MIKE
FOR. GOOD EVENING SURE MEMBERS
KATHY VAN AUSTIN ON BEHALF OF
THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
UNIVERSITY WOMEN CALIFORNIANS
TRANSPORT THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS AND OUR SENIOR COUNSEL
OF THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
INSTITUTE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
SAN DIEGO SCHOOL OF LAW PLEASED
TO CO SPONSOR ORDER SUPPORT
THANK YOU. REBECCA MARQUESS ON
BEHALF OF HAFER STORY AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
MOLESTERS OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE
OPPOSED AB THIRTEEN NINETY FOUR
PLEASE PRO TO MIKE FROM. THANK
YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THE ANY
TALKING WITH TECHNET AND WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR. I'D LIKE TO START
BY THANKING THE AUTHOR HER STAFF
THE SPONSOR AND THIS COMMITTEE
FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO WORKING
WITH INDUSTRY ON THIS BILL. WE
GREATLY APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS IN THE ON GOING
DIALOGUE AND WE'RE HOPEFUL TO
MAKE PROGRESS ON OUR REMAINING
CONCERNS AND REMOVE OUR
OPPOSITION. IN PARTICULAR WE
WERE CONCERNED THAT THE BILL
WENT BEYOND THE SESTA FOSTA
EXCEPTION AND GREATLY APPRECIATE
THE AMENDMENT AND THE ANALYSIS
TO NARROW THE BILL TO PENALIZE
PLATFORMS FOR KNOWINGLY
FACILITATING AIDING OR ABETTING
COMMERCIAL SEXUAL EXPLOITATION.
IN TERMS OF OUR REMAINING
CONCERNS AT FIRST WE BELIEVE THE
BILL SHOULD PROVIDE
PARTICIPATION AND NICK MAKES
TAKE IT DOWN SERVICE AS A SAFE
HARBOR TO THE BILL'S REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS. ONCE A PLATFORM
IDENTIFIES THE SAM ON ITS SITE
IT IS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO
REPORT THAT CONTENT TO NICK NICK
NICK NICK CREATES WHAT'S CALLED
A HASH VALUE. A UNIQUE DIGITAL
FINGERPRINTS OF THE C. SAM IT
SHARES THOSE HASH VALUES WITH
PARTICIPATING PLATFORMS WHO USE
THEM TO PROACTIVELY SCANNED
THEIR SITES. VICTIMS REPORT SEES
THEM TO NICK MAKE AND SO DOES
THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND
PARTICIPATING PLATFORMS BUT THE
PROGRAM IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE
NUMBER OF ITS PARTICIPATING
PLATFORMS WE BELIEVE THAT
INCENTIVIZING NICK MAKE
CENTRALIZED REPORTING SYSTEM. IS
FAR MORE EFFECTIVE IN ACHIEVING
THIS BILL SCHOOL TACKLING SEES
THEM ACROSS THE INTERNET. AND
ACROSS PLATFORMS THAN HAVING
EACH INDIVIDUAL PLATFORM RECEIVE
INTERVIEW ISOLATED REPORTS THE
SAFE HARBOR IS THE IDEAL WAY OF
ACHIEVING THAT. SECOND WE ASK
THAT ONLY CONTENT THAT'S
PUBLICLY VIEWABLE BE SUBJECT TO
THE REMOVAL REQUIREMENTS WE
BELIEVE THIS WOULD PREVENT THE
BILL FROM RUNNING AFOUL OF THE
FOURTH AMENDMENT. FORCING
PLATFORMS TO SCAN CONTENT AND
PRIVATE ALBUMS FOR EXAMPLE
RAISES THOSE FOURTH AMENDMENT
CONCERNS THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT
MANDATE THESE KINDS OF PRE
EMPTIVE SEARCHES WITHOUT
PROBABLE CAUSE. PLATFORMS ARE
ALREADY CONDUCTING THOSE
SEARCHES ACROSS THEIR SITES I
DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS EVEN
MORE REASON TO INCENTIVIZE THEIR
PARTICIPATION IN NICK NICK.
FINALLY WE REQUEST THE CLERK
CATION THAT PLATFORMS ARE
REQUIRED TO REMOVE RATHER THAN
PERMANENTLY BLOCK MATERIAL
THAT'S BELIEVED TO BE C. SAM.
OTHERWISE PLATFORMS WOULD BE
SUBJECT TO LIABILITY FOR ANY LAG
TIME BEFORE THE CONTENT IS
HASHED OR WHERE BAD ACTORS
REPOST CONTENT THAT WE REMOVE
BEFORE IT'S BEEN HASHED. OR
ABOUT ACTORS WHO SCREENING I'M
VERY MUCH. VIEWED WRAPPING UP.
WHILE WE'RE STRICTLY MADE
OPPOSED TO THIS VERSION THE BILL
WE LOOK FOR TO CONTINUE OUR-
CONVERSATIONS THE ARMY THANK YOU
. GOOD EVENING. SURE MEMBERS
SAYING LEVINE WITH CAPITAL
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THAT
CHOICE- IN OPPOSITION. WE
APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMITTEES
WORK- IN THE AMENDMENTS
PARTICULARLY AROUND THE
PROVISION ON THE LEGAL STANDARD-
I THINK GIVEN THE LEGAL STANDARD
IF IT WERE TO STAY AS IS AND THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS NOT CHOICE
WOULD BE INCLINED TO REMOVE
THEIR OPPOSITION AND GO TO
NEUTRAL- OUR CONCERN. IS IF THAT
SOMEHOW CHANGES THROUGH THE
COURSE OF SOME CONVERSATIONS
SUBSEQUENT TO THIS HEARING IT
BECOMES. OF RECKLESS OR OR SOME
SORT OF AN AWARENESS STANDARD
DRESSED UP AS A KNOWLEDGE
STANDARD- WE WOULD MAINTAIN OUR
OPPOSITION. IN IN FEAR THAT THE
BUILT IN THAT WE WOULD BE DEEMED
UNCONSTITUTIONAL- SO THAT'S OUR
PRINCIPAL CONCERN IS THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF STANDARD-
WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS IS THE
KNOWLEDGE STANDARD IN THE BILL
RIGHT NOW AGAIN. IF IT STAYS
THAT WAY WE WILL GO TO NEUTRAL-
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE
DIALOGUE WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WORKS THANK YOU OKAY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH I- DISTILLATE THAT
CONCERN I. BELIEVE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WEEKS TO BE PERSON OVER
WORD AND HONOR INTEGRITY AND- SO
I. AM NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A
FOUNDED FEAR BUT OKAY. OTHERS
WHO WERE IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
EVENING TURN MEMBERS NAMELY
PETRON ON BEHALF OF THE COMPUTER
AND COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION. AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION- BUT WE DO APPRECIATE
THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
THE WORK OF THE AUTHOR AND LOOK
FORWARD TO ONGOING CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING RUN
AUTONOMY ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR JUST A
LINE MY COMMENTS BECAUSE MY
COLLEAGUES THANK YOU ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT.
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION SAY NO ONE
ELSE PROVIDE FROM THE STERN OF
THE PHONE LINES FOR THOSE ARE IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION OF AB
THIRTEEN NINETY FOUR. COURSE THE
GEMINI WHICH MAY EXPLAIN IN PART
OR OPPOSITION THE PRESS ONE
ZERO. IS ON THE LINE FOUR OH
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
EVENING TO ME HOW QUICKLY THAT.
RESPECTFULLY APPROACHED. THANK
YOU. AND IS CURRENTLY NO ONE
ELSE IN THE QUEUE AT THIS TIME
MISTER CHAIR ALL RIGHT LET'S
BRING BACK COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THE
QUESTIONS THE QUESTIONS IS THERE
MOTION. SEVEN ALSO MOST PEOPLE.
THE MAYOR WICKS. SENATOR REX WOW
I GOT IT IS AN WEEKS IN ANOTHER
. BY THE END OF THE EVENING
YOU'RE GONNA BE COVERED HER WITH
. ACTUALLY IT'S SUPPORT THAT
RIGHT. MR THIS I'M SORRY SAID
AROUND I HAD A QUICK QUESTION I
KNOW ONE OF THAT ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT'S BEEN GOING BACK
AND FORTH IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE OPPOSITION SPEND THIS
WHOLE- THE BIGGEST WAS LINED UP
PERMANENTLY. LOCK THE REPORT OF
MATTEO FROM THE VIEWABLE AND SO
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE BILL
REQUIRES PREEMPTIVE SEARCHES- I
MEAN I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION
RIGHT BECAUSE IT IS. ILLEGAL
MATERIALS. RIGHT THAT SHOULDN'T
BE ABSOLUTELY. ANYWHERE PERIOD.
MUCH LESS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS AND SO I THINK THOSE
ARE SOME OF THE ON GOING
CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE AN EIGHT
AND ALSO IN THIS SPACE I THINK
THERE TENDS TO BE A- PRIVACY
VERSUS. LIKE ADDRESSING THIS
ISSUE CONCERNED THAT BUBBLES UP
OFTEN IN THIS SPACE RIGHT BUT
THIS IS ILLEGAL MATERIAL- SO
THESE ARE JUST CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE GOING TO
KEEP HAVING WITH OPPOSITION TO
MAKE SURE WE TRY TO LIKELY ON
THIS IN A WAY THAT. IT WORKS.
OKAY HERE AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR
THAT I MEAN THE SYSTEM IS SOLELY
TURKEY RIGHT IT'S MAKING IT SOME
RESPECT IT'S LIKE. SO MANY. NO
SEARCH AND SEIZURE TYPE ISSUES
RIGHT WHERE THERE'S A YEAH
EVIDENCE OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
AND YET WE DO PUT. PARAMETERS ON
THE AT LEAST- IN THEIR ABILITY
TO HIM ACCESS THAT MATERIAL WHEN
THERE'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION
OF PRIVACY EVEN IF IT YOU KNOW
EVEN IF THERE MAY BE A REALLY
EGREGIOUS CRIME INVOLVED. SO
YEAH THESE. SOUNDS LIKE. THOSE
CONVERSATIONS WE HAD VERY GOOD
CONVERSATIONS I THINK WITH ALL
THE STAKEHOLDERS- AND I THINK
JUST NEED MORE TIME TO KEEP
HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS- AND
TO THE OPPOSITION WILL. WE WILL
CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN MAKE SURE
THAT. THE CHAIRMAN AND THE STAFF
AND OTHERS ARE INVOLVED WE'RE
NOT GOING TO TRY TO LIKE HOOD
WEEK ANYONE HERE INTO SOME SORT
OF YOU KNOW- HI THE BALL
SITUATION SO WE'LL WE'LL KEEP
CHATTING WITH OPPOSITION ABOUT
IT SEE IF WE CAN. LANUS IN A
PLACE THAT. I THINK BOUNCES
THOSE THIS NEEDS GREAT RIGHT
WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING I'M I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL IN
SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT AROUND MOST
WILL JUST AS THE COUPLE FIRST-
I'M SORRY CENTER ALSO- CENTER
RAZA I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T WHAT
SEN OWN THAT MUFFLED. CENTERS
ROSS'S WITH THE BILL- THIS
COUPLE COMMENTS THAT RESULT
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US.
ON THE BILL I THINK WITH THE
SAME GOAL WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT WE CREATE- SOMETHING
THAT. PASSES CONSTITUTIONAL
MUSTER I I'VE- HEARD WHAT UP MY
COLLEAGUES CENTER ALLEN SAID YES
YOU DO FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT.
OF AGAINST ILLEGAL SEARCHES AND
SEIZURES YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT
TO POSSESS CONTRABAND AND THERE
IN LIES THE RUB YES- THE-
CHALLENGE. IS MAKING SURE THAT
THAT WE PROVIDE. IS YOU AND I
DISCUSSED- WE PROVIDE A
MECHANISM TO PUT THE PLATFORMS
ON NOTICE SO THAT ONCE THEY'RE
ON NOTICE THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE
AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY KNOW
OR SHOULD KNOW. IF THEY'RE ON
NOTICE THEY NOW. SELL AND WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS SO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHICH CARE
CLOSE RESPECT FASTER AND I VOTE
AND APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS
CENTER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
I'M SICK TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
FORTY FIVE AB THIRTEEN NINETY
FOUR THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE UMBERG.
I HAVE. UNDERGONE A WILK HI.
WILK AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
ASHLEY. ASHLEY I CABALLERO.
RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED.
CLEARED I AM IN. THEN I ANY LOW
. A NEW LOW I STERN. WIENER.
EIGHT ZERO. EIGHT ZERO ALL RIGHT
ON CALL. ON PHONE CALL YES
PLACED ON CALL ALL RIGHT NUMBER
FORTY SIX AB FORTY SIXTY FIVE.
AND THEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER TODD
YOUR NEXT. HE'S BEEN HERE LIKE
FIVE HOURS. P. E. HAS BEEN HERE
FIVE HOURS I AGREE ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I WANT TO START BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
PROPOSED IN THE ANALYSIS A. B.
FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE TACKLES A
PROBLEM THAT PLAGUES CALIFORNIA
NEIGHBORHOODS WITH OIL
REFINERIES AND OTHER MAJOR
SOURCES OF AIR POLLUTION IN
THEIR BACKYARDS. ADD TO MANY OF
THESE FACILITIES IN RECENT YEARS
THEY'VE BEEN SERIOUS DECLINES IN
COMPLIANCE WITH AIR QUALITY
REQUIREMENTS COUPLED WITH AN
INCREASES IN FLARING AND OTHER.
EVENTS THAT RELEASED TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES AND OFTEN THESE ARE
IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SO
THERE'S A REAL- E. J. CONCERN
HERE. AT REFINING AT REFINERY
FLARING CAN RESULT IN CHILL
CHILDREN PLACE NOTIFICATIONS
SCHOOL CLOSURES AND A SURGE OF
VISITS TO HEALTHCARE FACILITIES
FOR MEDICAL CARE. AND THE BAY
AREA AND SPECIFICALLY IN MY
DISTRICT REFINERIES REMAIN AMONG
THE LARGEST SOURCES OF AIR
POLLUTANTS. AND INCREASE FLARING
IS NEGATIVELY AFFECTING AIR
QUALITY AND HEALTH. AB FOURTEEN
SIXTY FIVE TRIPLES THE CIVIL
PENALTY SEALING FOR AIR QUALITY
VIOLATIONS THAT OCCUR AT TITLE
FIVE SOURCES. FINES ARE DESIGNED
TO ACT AS DETERRENTS AND MOST
AIR QUALITY PENALTIES ACROSS OUR
STATE ARE WORKING AS INTENDED
BUT TITLE FIVE SOURCES ARE LARGE
AND THEIR AIR QUALITY VIOLATIONS
ARE POTENTIALLY FAR MORE
DANGEROUS THAN OTHER FACILITIES.
THE CONSEQUENCES OF AIR QUALITY
VIOLATIONS MUST BE SEVERE ENOUGH
TO DETER A DISCHARGE REPORT
OCCURS SUBMITTERS DON'T TREAT
THESE FINES AS JUST AN
ACCEPTABLE COST OF DOING
BUSINESS BUT ACTUALLY AS A
DETERRENCE. LASTLY WE KNOW THAT
WE HAVE- THAT WE CONTINUE TO
HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
OPPOSITION. AND THE REMAINING
CONCERNS AFTER RECENTLY TAKING A
SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENT AT THE
REQUEST WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE
THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHEREVER
THEY ARE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE-
AND I ALSO WANT TO KNOW THAT
ACTUALLY THIS MORNING AND- WHICH
I DRIVE THROUGH MY WAY HERE.
THERE WAS- TOXIC DUST RELEASE.
I'M SO THIS IS HAPPENING. IN OUR
COMMUNITIES ALL THE TIME AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE.
PENALTIES ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO
PREVENT- THESE REFINERIES FROM
ALLOWING THESE TOXINS TO COME
INTO THE AIR AS OPPOSED TO JUST
BEING A COST OF DOING BUSINESS
OF YOUR REFINERY. WITH MERE
TESTIFIED SUPPORTERS ON ABS ON
BEHALF OF OUR SPONSOR THE BAY
AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT. AND MARIO A- ROCK SHOW
ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN LUNG
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FLOWS.
GOOD SURE I'M I'M BERGEN MAY OF
THE ON ALLEN AB REPRESENTING THE
BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT AND SPONSOR BABY
FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE. WITH A
SHORTENED STATEMENT FROM WHAT I
WOULD USUALLY SAYING COMMITTEE.
LIVE NEXT TO A LARGE SOURCES OF
AIR POLLUTION SUCH AS REFINERIES
EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE HIGHEST
CUMULATIVE HEALTH BURDENS IN
CALIFORNIA. EVEN IN
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THEY ARE
OPERATING WITHIN ALL THEIR
PERMIT CONDITIONS. UNFORTUNATELY
AND AS AN EXAMPLE REFINERIES
DON'T ALWAYS OPERATE WITHIN
THEIR PERMIT CONDITIONS. IN AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE PROVIDES AN
APPROPRIATE REMEDY TO TRY TO
REFOCUS THESE LARGE FACILITIES.
ON OPERATING WITHIN EXISTING AIR
QUALITY LAW AND BEING A GOOD
NEIGHBOR IN THE COMMUNITY. IN IN
OTHER COMMITTEES I'VE TALKED
ABOUT AT THANKSGIVING NIGHT
INCIDENT IN MARTINEZ WHERE- THE
LOCAL REFINERY- RELEASED TWENTY
FOUR TONS OF TOXIC DUST ON THE
COMMUNITY- AND- AND THEN CLAIM
THE NEXT DAY THAT THE DUST WAS
NON TOXIC NON HAZARDOUS. WE HOPE
THAT WAS A ONE TIME EVENT BUT
THAT IT WOULD SHOW THE NEED FOR
A BILL LIKE EIGHTEEN FOURTEEN
SIXTY FIVE. BUT AS ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WICKS MENTIONED- THE SAME
REFINERY DID THE SAME RELEASE-
YESTERDAY AND SO WE'RE BACK-
THAT THE CITY OF MARTINEZ HAS
HAD TO DEAL WITH THROUGH THESE
RELEASES. IN EIGHT MONTHS WHERE
THERE IS A TOXIC DUST LINING
THEIR STREETS. HOUSES AND CARS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK ASSEMBLYMEMBER
WICKS FOR HER LEADERSHIP IN
AUTHORING EIGHTY FOURTEEN SIXTY
FIVE WHICH TAKES A SMALL STEP
TOWARDS BETTER ALIGNING PET
PENALTIES FOR LARGE FACILITIES
VIOLATING AIR QUALITY PERMITS.
AND ENDANGERING PUBLIC HEALTH
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS
BILL I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I. BOATS. ALREADY THANK
YOU OTHERS SUPPORT OF AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE. YEAH
KAREMBEU MANY OF MY ALL RIGHT
FROM THEM LUNG ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA SPEAKING IN SUPPORT
OF AB FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE OVER
90% OF CALIFORNIANS LIVE IN A
COMMUNITY WITH UNHEALTHY AIR.
AIR POLLUTION IMPACTS EVERYONE
BUT THE POPULATION MOST IMPACTED
ARE CHILDREN SENIORS AND PEOPLE
WITH PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
LOW INCOME PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF
COLOR AFRICAN BEAR IN ADDED
DISPROPORTIONATE BURDEN TO YOUR
PRICE IS A PROM FOR EMISSIONS.
AB FORTY SIXTY FIVE TRIPLES
FRONT. TRIPLES BAEZ DETERRENT
LARGE FACILITIES FROM EMITTING
AIR POLLUTION THAT CAUSE INJURY
HARM. TO HEALTH AND SAFETY IN
COMMUNITIES. THIS BILL SEEKS TO
IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH AIR
QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE BY
INCREASING CIVIL PENALTIES IN
THE TURN FLARING EVENTS AND THE
RELEASE OF HARMFUL- CONTAMINANTS
AS NOTED EARLIER- TO PROTECT THE
HEALTH OF THOSE LIVING NEAR
THESE FACILITIES WE ARE DENIED
VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL
RIGHT OTHERS IN SUPPORT AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS BRENDAN TOOK ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTING THE- EXECUTIVE
OFFICER SMALL THIRTY FIVE. LOCAL
AIR DISTRICTS IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT- THIS IS SPORTS
THING NO ONE ELSE APPROACH TO
MICHAELIS COOLEY OPPOSITION OF
YOUR OPPOSED AB. FOURTEEN SIXTY
FIVE PLEASE PROVIDE PHONE.
MISTER CHAIRMAN THE COMMITTEE A
LOUIS BROWN WE HAVE TO
CALIFORNIA COTTON JENNER
SUSPICION WESTERN AG PROCESSORS
WE ACTUALLY ARE UNOPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED- AS YOU HEARD THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. I TALK ABOUT-
THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS BILL HAS
BEEN OIL REFINERIES AND WHEN IT
LEFT THE ASSEMBLY WAS FOCUSED ON
OIL REFINERIES. ON JUNE TWENTY
FIRST IT WAS AMENDED TO BE TITLE
FIVE SOURCES. TITLE FIVE SOURCES
MAKES A MUCH BROADER NET AND
THAT BRINGS IN COTTON GIN TO
BRING TO NOT HOLDERS AND DEPEND
ON THE AIR DISTRICT YOU'RE IN. A
REALLY BRINGS IN DIFFERENT
STATIONARY SOURCES SO WE'VE BEEN
IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE- AND WITH THE
SPONSORS OF THE BILL- AND
HOPEFULLY- WORKING TOWARDS
GETTING BACK FOCUSED ON THOSE
SIGNIFICANT MAJOR EMITTERS LIKE
REFINERIES. THAT WILL HOPEFULLY
THEN REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WAS
IN A POSITION. I BELIEVE SECULAR
WITH THE STATES SAYS. WE STILL
AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE-
HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE COUPLE
OUTSTANDING CONCERNS- DEALING
WITH THE LIST OF. CONTAMINANTS
AND THEN ALSO THE CRITERIA THAT
WOULD PROMPT THE TRIPLING FOR
PENALTIES- WE REMAIN OPPOSED
MUCH NEEDED TO LOOK FOR TO YOU
AND TALK WITH THE AUTHOR THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION. MILITARY CENTERS
BECAUSE IT TEARS ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA ADVANCED BY OFFICE
ALLIANCE HAVE AN OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED. POSITION FOR REASONS
RECENTLY. STATED THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OTHERS OPPOSING NO ONE
ELSE TO MIKE LISTON THE PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY FIVE. LADERMAN IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK YOU MAY PRESS
ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WILL
BE ON THE LINE FOR THIRTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FALCONS OFFICE I'LL BE
OFF THE SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR THE TWO FOUR EIGHTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HI THIS
IS COULD NOT MOVE ON SPEAKING
FOR KARNATAKA CALIFORNIA. STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANKS GO TO FOR
SEVENTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD.
DENNIS I'LL BE ON THE ON BEHALF
OF THE PACIFIC COAST RENDERING
ASSOCIATION. CALIFORNIA GREEN
UNIFICATION WE ASSOCIATE OUR
COMMENTS AND OUR OF THE PUBLIC
VETTING WITH MISTER BROWN. AND
APPRECIATE I THOUGHT THE AUTHOR
AND THE SPONSORS THANK. THERE'S
CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE THANK YOU
MISTER. ALL RIGHT THIS REBATE
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS COMMENTS. NO
QUESTIONS NO COMMENTS ALL RIGHT
IS THERE MOTION. SENATOR ALLEN
MOVES THE BILL. ALL RIGHT WOULD
YOU LIKE CLOSE UP FASTER NOW
THAT ARE A- MEMSIC TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY SIX A. B. FOURTEEN
SIXTY FIVE THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE I'M
BURKE. HI BURKE AYE WILK. HI
WILK AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE ASHBY.
SB I. CABALLERO. THE RUSSELL.
RUSSELL I LAYERED. LAYERED BY
MEN. MEN ONLINE NEW LOW. MUELLER
KNOWS STERN. WIENER. SEVEN TO
ONE. SEVEN ONE WE'RE GONNA PUT
THAT ON CALL- THE EVER. HASN'T
AND EVER PATIENT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
TODD. A. B. FOURTEEN FIFTY EIGHT
AND DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY
BUT I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER
TO CENTER WILL FOR A FEW MONTHS
. GOOD EVENING MISTER CHAIRMAN
SENATOR. START. OKAY YOU NEED TO
SEE A VERY FIRST CAME IN HERE
THIS MORNING BY CLICKING NEED TO
SHAVE NOW. WITH THAT YOU CAN
START LOOKING SAID GOOD EVENING
GOOD EVENING THIS IS A CHANCE
AND I SAID I'M HERE. TO PRESENT
A BE FOURTEEN FIFTY EIGHT THIS
VIEW SIX TO CORRECT A RECURRING
PROBLEM IN HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATION BOARD LACKS RIDLEY
APPRECIATE. COMMITTEE STOP
THOUGHTFUL INPUT AND ADDICTS
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED-
TECHNICAL MADMAN ONE THUG UP
CALIFORNIA HOMES- IN COMMON
INTEREST DEVELOPMENT ON SO NO AS
HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION- I SHOW A-
CALIFORNIA LAW SPELL OUT IN
DETAIL HOW H. O. A. ELECTION
ACT. TO BE CONDUCTED MAN
ASSOCIATION ALSO HAVE. GOVERNING
DOCUMENT OUT INTO THE WORLD
KARAM REQUIREMENT FOR ELECTION
UNFORTUNATELY MANY ASH L. A. ARE
UNABLE TO HOLD ELECTION DUE TO
AN INABILITY TO MEET THAT
REQUIREMENT- TO MEET THEIR
MINIMUM QUORUM. REQUIREMENT IS
OFTEN RESULT IN A MORE OUR
MEMBERS STAY IN OFFICE FOR MANY
YEARS BECAUSE AS A WAY UNABLE TO
CONDUCT AN ELECTION IT IS
UNDEMOCRATIC AND NOT A STANDOUT
FOR MOST OF THE ELECTION. A. B.
FOURTEEN FIFTY A- SIX TWO REMEDY
THIS BY BY LAW WE THE CALL CRIME
AND FALL OF FOR OUT BOY. TO
TWENTY PER TO HOME OR IN IN THE
EVENT. AND ASSOCIATION IS NOT
ABLE TO REACH THAT HIGH QUORUM
IN THE FIRST ELECTION I HAVE
WORKED WITH THE COMMITTEE TO
ADDRESS CONCERNS AND HAVOC SEPTA
. GLORIFYING MADMAN THESE GEN A
REASONABLE AND PROVIDE THE-
TRANSPARENCY NEEDED TO ENSURE
THE PROCESS EAST FOLLOW HAVE
WITNESSED WITH ME PHAM CAR
COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION INTO TWO
AND CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
COMMUNITY MANAGER I.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU I WILL
. THANK YOU AND- YOUR TESTIMONY
AT TWO MINUTES AND IT WAS BUT IT
WAS BURIED IN THE SELLING HIS
COMMENTS BUT HE IS ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WITH THAT
MISTER BROWN YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. MISTER CHAIRMAN BURST
COMMITTEE LOUIS BROWN ON BEHALF
THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS
INSTITUTE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATIVE
ACTION COMMITTEE I HEAR IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL TODAY- WE
HAVE CODES COVENANTS IN RESPECT
AND RESTRICTIONS- IN HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATIONS MANY OF THOSE
DRAFTED BY THE DEVELOPERS AND
THEN GIVEN TO THE H. AWAY. MOST
OF THOSE I HAVE QUORUM
REQUIREMENTS TO ELECT A BOARD OF
DIRECTORS MANY ASSOCIATION IN
THE STATE OF. CALIFORNIA ARE NOT
ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT QUORUM AND
THEREFORE A BOARD JUST CONTINUES
TO EXIST AND EXIST WHAT THIS
BILL WOULD SAY. IF YOU'RE NOT
ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT QUORUM THE
BOARD CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING
AND CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AT
WHICH TIME THOSE BALLOTS WITH
THE BE COUNTED AT A 20% QUORUM
THEREFORE ALLOWING NEW BOARDS TO
COME IN. AND ACTUALLY OPERATE
THESE ASSOCIATIONS WE KNOW ONE
OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT
ASSOCIATION FACE OUR BOARDS THAT
SIMPLY CANNOT BE REMOVED THIS IS
AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD ALLOW
THOSE WHO WANT TO RUN FOR AN H.
AWAY BOARD. TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GET THERE THROUGH
THAT REDUCE QUORUM WE ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU WHO ON EARTH
WOULD WANT TO SERVE ON THE H.
AWAY BOARD I HAVE NO IDEA OKAY.
ANY OTHER ANY OTHER PEOPLE IN
THE ROOM- IN SUPPORT. THREE NINE
US MOVE ANY MEMBERS IN THE ROOM
IN OPPOSITION. AND I'M GONNA
EXTEND YOU SAME COURTESIES
MISTER BRANSON TWO MINUTES. WELL
AS A MATTER OF FACT- I HAVE
SERVED ON HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION
BOARD MORE THAN ONCE. AND OF
WITH ACTUALLY WITH PLEASURE HI
MARJORIE MURRAY. CENTER FOR
CALIFORNIA HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATION LAW I LIVE IN ONE OF
THE OLDEST ASSOCIATIONS IN
CALIFORNIA FOUNDED IN OAKLAND IN
NINETEEN SEVENTEEN- WE DO HAVE
CONCERNS. ABOUT THIS BILL WHICH
SHOW WARRANTS ARE OPPOSE
POSITION. BECAUSE THERE ARE
ACTUALLY QUORUM REQUIREMENTS AND
NOT JUST IN GOVERNING DOCUMENTS
WITHIN THE CORPORATIONS CODE
WHICH REQUIRES A ONE THIRD.
PERCENT VOTING POWER IN ORDER TO
SEE BORDER. OR DIRECTORS. THIS
BILL WOULD REDUCE THAT 220%
THESE ARE LITTLE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS THESE ARE LIKE
LITTLE CITY COUNCILS WHICH HAVE
INTIMATE AN EXTRAORDINARY POWER
OVER THE LIVES PROPERTY AND
BEHAVIOR OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN THEM THEIR LITTLE MANY
GOVERNMENTS. SO IT'S NOT A SMALL
MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO
ELECTIONS- HARKENS MAIN CONCERN
ABOUT THE BILL WHICH WE HAVE
PROPOSED IN DRAFT AMENDMENTS IS
THE ISSUE OF NOTICE. THAT YOU
KNOW MOST ASSOCIATION IN
CALIFORNIA ARE ACTUALLY QUITE
SMALL THERE TWENTY FIVE HOMES
ARE LESS WHICH MEANS IF YOUR CAR
ONLY REQUIRING TWENTY PERCENT.
OF THE HOMEOWNERS TO SEEK THE
BOARD DIRECTORS ALL YOU NEED IS
FIVE VOTES IN ORDER TO SEEK
THOSE DIRECTORS SO OUR AMENDMENT
FIRST OF ALL. IS THAT THERE BE
CLEAR NOTICE GIVEN TO EVERY
SINGLE HOME OWNER OF THIS
IMPENDING- FIRST OF ALL BUT THE
QUORUM HAS NOT BEEN MET BUT
SECONDLY THAT THERE'S GOING TO
BE A SPECIAL MEETING AT WHICH IS
BOARD DIRECTORS ARE GOING TO BE
SET. UP WITH ME IS MY COLLEAGUE-
ATTORNEY AND LITIGATOR MIKE
JOHNSON WHO WILL TALK ABOUT THE
CONSEQUENCES OF NOT PROVIDING
ADEQUATE NOTICE. REALLY BEEN
FEELING THAT ONE. WIN SPEAKER.
TWO MINUTES THANK YOU SHE WENT
OVER BY FOUR AND A HALF SECOND
OKAY ALREADY DEDUCTED FROM YOUR
TO MALCOLM I'LL GIVE IT BACK-
GOOD EVENING AS YOU POINTED OUT
- AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY ADDRESS VIA
COMMITTEE. ON THE MAIN PROBLEM
THAT. WE HAVE WITH THAT LEGALLY
IS THAT THE SECOND ELECTION AND
YOUR THIRD ELECTION AND OR
FOURTH ELECTION UNTIL THEY GET
TO THE 20% QUORUM. ONLY REQUIRES
A GENERAL NOTICE. A POSTER ON
THE- BULLETIN BOARD IN THE
ASSOCIATIONS- OFFICE OR- A SCORE
OR WHAT NOT NO A SPECIFIC NOTICE
THAT NOTICE DOESN'T MEET- DUE
PROCESS REQUIREMENTS. THIS IS
THESE BOARDS ENACT AREN'T
EMPOWERED TO AND DO IN FACT
ENACT REGULATIONS DO IS CENTER
OF THAT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACT THE
PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE
INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE
ASSOCIATION THE HOMEOWNER'S OR
THE MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION
BECAUSE THEY DO SO IMPACT
BECAUSE THEY ARE BECAUSE I
GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY THEY HAVE TO
FOLLOW DUE PROCESS RULES. AND AS
A GENERAL NOTICE WOULD NOT
NEEDED DUE PROCESS STANDARD IF
CHALLENGED IN COURT AND SO AS
SOON AS AN AGGRIEVED. HOMEOWNER
WHO DIDN'T VOTE NEVER SAW THE
NOTICE MAYBE DID SEE THE NOTICE
BUT INVOKED THE CLAIMS YOU NEVER
SAW THE NOTICE OF CHALLENGES
WHAT THE BOARD HAS NOW DONE IN
COURT IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD
CHALLENGE. FOR AND AT A MINIMUM
IT'S GOING TO BE LITIGATION SO
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW PATHS
FOR AGGRIEVED HOMEOWNERS HOAS
AND WE ALL KNOW THEIR AGGRIEVED
OWN HOMEOWNERS NATURE HE'S- TO.
FACILITATE LITIGATION WHICH
NEITHER SIDE. CAN AFFORD OR
WALKS AND IT'S SIMPLY THAT I
NOTICE REQUIREMENT TO DUE
PROCESS REQUIREMENT THAT'S IT'S
MISSING. IN THE BILL- AS MUCH AS
MARJORIE POINTED OUT I AM I AM I
AM A LITIGATOR OF FORTY YEARS I
HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH- THE
CENTER FOR HOMEOWNER
ASSOCIATIONS AND COMPLETELY
UNRELATED FIELD OBVIOUSLY. A PRO
BONO FOR TWENTY YEARS AND I TO
HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD. AND THEN
PRESIDENT REPORT. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH YOU KNOW I KEEP YOUR
WORD WITH THIRTEEN POINT TWO
THREE SECONDS OVER THAT'S OKAY I
JUST WANNA GO FOR THE RECORD I
LIVE IN H. AWAY WITH FIVE
THOUSAND HOMES. SO I TOTALLY
UNDERSTAND APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
DO I WOULD RATHER COMPLAIN THAN
BE INVOLVED SO. WITH THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION IF.
NOT WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION TO
THE PHONES. THING NINE. MONTEREY
WINKLER YOU WISH YOU UP THOSE-
THAT WANT TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION NOW WOULD
BE THE TIME TO DO SO. LEHTINEN
AMERICA SHOULD SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE
AND ZERO. WE'LL BE GOING TO LINE
THREE FIFTY EIGHT PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI. ALLEN MAJORITY OUR
RESEARCH HERE AND I THINK THIS
BILL IN THE CHART FROM GOING TO
QUESTION THAT LOCATION OF ABOUT
THE ON AGAIN ON A- WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT ALL OF THE STRONGLY
SUPPORT AB FOURTEEN FIFTY EIGHT
BECAUSE- WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO
DEMOCRATICALLY ELECT BOARD
MEMBERS I FEEL AFTER AGAIN FACE
ANY. ONE OF A LOT OF NON
DEMOCRAT DOCUMENTATION IN A
DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY IF THE FARM
IS REVIEWS. OF THE RIGHT NOT BE
NEEDS ALL RIGHT TO ADEQUATE
LEGAL. YEAH THANK YOU SIR RIGHT
NOW WE'RE MOVING TO MEET TO
TESTIMONY WHICH IS YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION IF ANY AND YOUR
POSITION ON THE BILL. MODERATOR
THIS FOR C. HELLO THREE FIFTY
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THE
FIFTY FIVE. HELLO HELLO. HELLO
WE CAN HEAR YOU. YES AND YOU
HEAR ME YES FIVE YES YES MY NAME
YEAH HI MY NAME IS MARK YOUR LAW
AND I HAVE BEEN A CONDO
HOMEOWNER IN REDONDO BEACH FOR
OVER TWENTY YEARS. MY H. AWAY
ONLY SIX HOMEOWNERS IF THIS BILL
WERE TO PASS IT WILL FACE A 20%
WALDRON FOUR EIGHT FOUR
ELECTIONS THAT WILL TRANSLATE TO
ONE POINT TWO BOTH. YES ONE
POINT TO VOTE. FOR MY EXTERNAL
POSITION TODAY IS THE L. WHAT
ARE THEY BILL MAY HAVE GOOD
INTENTIONS THAT BEARD AT THE
RATE IS ALREADY THINK I NEED
WHO- ARE WILL BE HIGH FOR I'M
SORRY FOR WHAT MORE THAN A FEW
SHOWS. ONE SIDE ALL RIGHT. AND
AGAIN THANK YOU RIGHT NOW WE'RE
DOING ME TO TESTIMONY WHICH IS
YOUR NAME AFFILIATION IF ANY IN
YOUR POSITION ON THE BILL WHAT I
SUGGEST TO YOU IS DON'T TELL
YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT AND TAKE
OVER THE H. AWAY. OKAY.
MODERATORS MOVE TO THE NEXT BILL
. NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE FOR
EIGHTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THURMOND JENNIFER WATER. UNDER
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE OF
COMMUNITY MAN IN SUPPORT THAT'S
HOW YOU DO IT YOU CHEN. NEXT NOW
LINE THREE OH FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING SENATORS
KRISTIN RICHIE H. O. A MEMBER
FROM CONTRA COSTA COUNTY IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO
ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE MISTER.
THANK YOU MODERATOR THIS PULL
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
COMMENTS CONCERNS. TURNING TO MY
LEFT WHAT SURPRISED CENTER
DORADO MY LEFT. THANK YOU
MEASURE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
THE AUTHOR. OKAY YES- ANOTHER IS
ONE OF THE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION SPOKE. SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT- NOTICE- AND HOW THE
NOTICE IS YOU KNOW TO THE
INDIVIDUALS IS NOT PROVIDED.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED AMENDING TO
INCLUDE THAT THAT SEEMS LIKE A
VERY SIMPLE THING TO DO
ESPECIALLY. IS AS I UNDERSTAND
IT. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE
LOOKING TO INCREASE
PARTICIPATION YOU LOOKING TO GET
MORE MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE.
GIVING THEM NOTICE SEEMS LIKE A
VERY SIMPLE THING TO DO THAT
COULD HELP COULD BE ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT THAT'S DONE TO
INCREASE THAT PARTICIPATION SO.
QUESTION I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR
YOUR- CONCERNS US SENATE I
BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BE WE
WANT TO SEND OUT NOTICE AFTER
THE FIRST ELECTION BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO ASK MY WITNESS IF YOU
HAVE ONE ANNE M. AND E. ARE THE
ANSWER TO. ADDRESS THE CONCERNS
MISTER CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE
LOUIS BROWN ON BEHALF COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATIONS INSTITUTE I'M
THERE'S NOTICE ALREADY IN THE
CURRENT ELECTION LAW. AND SO
THIRTY DAYS PRIOR TO WHEN
BALLOTS THE MEETING WOULD TAKE
PLACE FOR BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED
IS ALREADY IN LAW AND SO WHAT
WE'RE ADDING IN THIS BILL IS IN
THAT NOTICE IT'LL SAY IN THIRTY
DAYS. THE BOARD'S GONNA MEET TO
HOLD THIS ELECTION IF BY CHANCE
. WE DON'T ME QUORUM YOU WILL
RECEIVE ANOTHER NOTICE TELLING
YOU OF A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE. THE COUNT
OF THE BALLOTS AND THEN IF AT
THAT MEETING WE DON'T RECEIVE
QUORUM BEFORE WE CAN HOLD THE
SPECIAL MEETING WE HAVE TO SEND
ANOTHER GENERAL NOTICE. TO ALL
THE MEMBERS SO WE HAVE PROVIDED
TWO LAYERS OF NOTICE. IN THE
BILL TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
ARE AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITY
WHERE THE BALLOT TO BE COUNTED.
AND FOR THEM TO SHOW UP AND BE
PRESENT AND VOTE IN PERSON.
THANK YOU ARE MY NEW FRIEND
WANTED TO COMMENT SO COME UP TO
THE MIKE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR. THERE IS A HUGE
DISTINCTION BETWEEN GENERAL
NOTICE AN INDIVIDUAL NOTICE AS
SENATOR DROUGHT SO HAS JUST
POINTED OUT. EVERY TIME THERE'S
AN ELECTION. THE BOARD MUST
CONSTRUCT WATER CALLED ELECTION
OPERATING RULES LAYING OUT THE
GROUNDWORK GROUND RULES THE FOR
THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK FOR MOVING
FORWARD. THOSE RULES WERE
CREATED INVENTED. IMAGINED BY
THE CALIFORNIA LAW REVISION
COMMISSION. ALEXION OPERATING
RULES ARE DELIVERED BY
INDIVIDUAL NOTICE ONLY ALONG
WITH THE BALLOTS THEY ARE NOT
POSTED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD
THEY'RE NOT POSTED ON THE TENNIS
COURT THEY ARE SENT TO THE
INDIVIDUAL VOTER JUST AS WE WHEN
WE VOTE WE GET THE ABSENTEE
BALLOT IN THE MAIL. IT'S NOT
POSTED DOWN AT THE COMMUNITY
CENTER AND THEN WHAT RUNOFF ON
THE XEROX MACHINE IT SENT TO ME
PERSONALLY. WE NEED TO CLONE
THIS IN FACT. EXISTING LAW FIFTY
ONE HUNDRED CIVIL CODE FIFTY ONE
HUNDRED USES THE ABSENTEE BALLOT
SYSTEM AND ELECTION OPERATING
RULES. TO IMPLEMENT HOMEOWNER
ASSOCIATION ELECTIONS BECAUSE
THEY ARE ANOTHER LEVEL OF
GOVERNMENT. SO THE BILL AS
WRITTEN REQUIRES GENERAL NOTICE
NOT INDIVIDUAL NOTICE SO I'M
GONNA FONG QUESTION HOW FAR IS
THE CHASM BETWEEN WHAT THE
SETTLEMENTS HOPING TO ACHIEVE IN
YOUR CONCERNS IS SOMETHING IS
BRIDGEABLE. YES IF THE- ASSEMBLY
MAN WOULD ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT
REGARDING INDIVIDUAL NOTICE. WE
COULD GET BEHIND THE BILL. OKAY
GREAT GENERAL MOTORS IS
INSUFFICIENT. THAT SEEMS LIKE A
SIMPLE FIX BUT WHAT DO I KNOW
I'M JUST AND IT'S ALL DONE BY
EMAIL. YEAH THANK YOU. CENTER
LAYERED. CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP
QUESTION OF THE AUTHOR BECAUSE I
ACTUALLY. UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS
JUST SAID IN THE YOU'RE NOT
CHANGING THE INDIVIDUAL WAY
THANKS ARE NOTICED YOU'RE
CHANGING THE THRESHOLD THAT
TRIGGERS. AN ELECTION OR OR
TRIGGERS A RESULT RIGHT. CORRECT
YES. BUT I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND
BECAUSE THE INFERENCE WAS. IS
THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS CHANGING
THE NOTICE TO JUST A GENERAL
NOTICE AS OPPOSED TO THE
INDIVIDUAL THIS. THROUGH THE
CHAIR- SO WHEN WE ARE MAKING
SOME TERMS HERE- WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THERE WAS JUST NOW
DISCUSSION OF OPERATING RULES.
AND OPERATING RULES AND BALLOTS
PROVIDED TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.
THAT'S TRUE EVERYONE GETS THAT
THE NOTICE FOR THE MEETING THAT
WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW
UP AND PARTICIPATE IN THE
DISCUSSION AND THE COUNTING THE
BALLOTS IS DONE BY GENERAL
MOTORS THAT'S CURRENT LAW WE'RE
NOT CHANGING THAT. WELL WE'VE
ADDED IS THAT NOW AT THE
CONCLUSION OF THAT MEETING. IF
THERE IS NOT A QUORUM THE
BOARD'S GONNA CALL ANOTHER
MEETING I'M GONNA FOLLOW THE
SAME EXACT PROCESS THAT THEY
FOLLOWED. OF THE GENERAL NOTICE
FOR THE MEETING TO COUNT THE
BALLOTS SO EVERYTHING UP BEFORE
THAT IS NOT CHANGING. OPERATING
RULES BALLOTS GOING INDIVIDUALS
ALL OF THAT IS EXACTLY
CONSISTENT SO IT IS JUST THE
THRESHOLD HARASSMENT. IN. IS IT
JUST ONE RANDOM QUESTION THAT
REFLECTS ON THIS ISN'T THE
PROCESS THAT IT BE DONE
INDEPENDENTLY. PRESCRIBED BY
STATE LAW YES THERE HAS TO BE AN
INDEPENDENT- I CAN THINK OF THE
TERMS RIGHT NOW BUT CONDUCTOR OF
THE OF THE ELECTIONS YES. OKAY
THEN BACK THROUGH ELECTIONS IS
ACTUALLY THE TERMINOLOGY. GOD
HELP US. THEN THANK YOU AND
THANK YOU LET ME JUST MAKE A
COMMENT AND THAT IS THAT- I AM A
MEMBER OF AN H. AWAY AND HAVE
BEEN FOR TWENTY YEARS THAT'S A
BLOCK FROM HERE. AND THE IT IS
BEEN A MASS AT DIFFERENT TIMES
IT I ACTUALLY DID DOUBLE THE
BILLS THAT CREATED AN ANNUAL
FINANCIAL REPORTS SO EVERYBODY
WOULD KNOW THE INDEBTEDNESS. AND
THERE WAS ANOTHER THING MORE
ONLY NEW MEMBERS OF THE H. AWAY
WILL BUILD FOR CERTAIN COSTS AND
THE BILL WAS DONE THAT THEY HAVE
TO BE ASSESSED EQUALLY THAT
THAT'S NOT FAIR NEW PEOPLE
SHOULDN'T BARRETT. AND WE HAD
ELECTIONS THAT I HAVE A FEELING
SINCE THE NUMBER OF LEGISLATORS
LIVE THERE MIGHT HAVE LED TO THE
STATUTE ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT
ELECTION CONDUCTING BECAUSE WAS
DONE IN A HAPHAZARD WAY WHERE
PEOPLE WORK NOTICED. IT AND ALL
PROPOSALS WHAT SOME OF THESE
COMMENTS ARE IT IT'S SORT OF IN
SOME WAYS IT'S IF YOU DON'T LIKE
THE GENERAL NOTICE GET YOUR OWN
BILL BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT
THIS BILLS ABOUT THIS BILLS
ABOUT THE THRESHOLD AND YET I'M
SYMPATHETIC TO THE GENERAL
NOTICE. BECAUSE I LIVE IN
ANOTHER COUNTY A HUNDRED FIFTY
MILES AWAY HALFTIME AND IF
THERE'S A GENERAL NOTICE ON THE
DOOR TO THE PARKING LOT. OR
ANOTHER COMMON PLACES I'M NOT
CÁC UNLESS IT'S MAILED TO ME.
AND SO I THINK FOR WHAT THIS
BILL IS IT MAKES SENSE. I'LL BE
HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT AND YET. IT
RAISES THE ISSUES ABOUT WHETHER
THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE
LAW. THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE DEALT
WITH AT SOME POINT. THAT'S A
GOOD- LAYER BECAUSE ACTUALLY
BELONG TO HOAS ONES OUT OF
STATE. AND EMAIL ME IN AND- DAY
MILLION INDIVIDUAL NOTICE
BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TACKED UP.
YOU KNOW THEY'RE IN THE IN THE
PARK I WOULD NEVER SEE IT
BECAUSE I'M ONLY THERE TWO WEEKS
OUT OF THE YEAR. SENATOR ALSO.
YEAH I UNDERSTAND THE- YOU KNOW
GET YOUR OWN BILL THING BECAUSE-
THE GENERAL NOTICE AND IT'S NOT
BEING INCLUDED IN IN YOUR BILL
HOWEVER. THE FACT THAT YOU'RE
ASKING FOR. A LOWER QUORUM.
MAKES THAT OTHER ISSUE WHICH YOU
ARE NOT COVERING MAKES IT MORE
IMPORTANT. BECAUSE YOU WANT TO
HAVE SOMETHING THAT HELPS PEOPLE
KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. AND
THE GENERAL NOTICE DOESN'T HAVE
THE SAME IMPACTS OF THE ONE
TWENTY PERCENT. AND OF THEN
MAYBE YOUR MAKE UP FOR IT BY
HAVING A SPECIFIC NOTICE OR
INDIVIDUAL NOTICE SO. I AM I
WILL SUPPORT YOU TODAY BUT I
URGE YOU BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME
A VERY SIMPLE. FIX ON THAT HAS
BEEN PROPOSED TODAY THANK YOU
APPRECIATE THAT SENATE. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS
CONCERNS BEFORE. THEN YOU MAY
CLOSER AND WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. BUT WE DO NEED
A MOTION. SO MOVE. SENATOR. I'M
USING COOLEY NERO I KNOW TO SAY
THAT. PETER KNEGO MAKES A MOTION
WITH THAT LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER FORTY
AB FOURTEEN FIFTY EIGHT THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
UMBERG ARE A BURKE AYE WILK HI
WILL GUY ALAN. ASHBY SB I.
CABALLERO. RUSSELL RUSSELL I
LAYERED. I AM IN. MAIENSCHEIN
LOW. THE LITTLE AYE STERN.
WIENER WIENER I. EIGHT ZERO
EIGHT ZERO PUT THAT ON CALL
ASSUME WE'RE NEARLY DONE- I'M
SORRY THAT WAS JUST ONE BILL I
WAS GOING TO. SOME ARE. ALL
RIGHT- NEXT ASSEMBLY MEMBER TENG
. K. WELL IT'S A- PROUD OF THE
PROBLEM NUMBER AT THE END OF THE
ALPHABET CAUCUSES FOR. ME TO BE
HERE TONIGHT IS SIX FOR JOINING
IT'S A LEAD IT'S IT IS THE FOLKS
WE WANT TO HANG OUT WITH. YOU
KNOW THIS IS THIS IS OPEN MIKE
RIGHT YEAH MY USUAL YOU SHOULD
TAKE USUALLY WEARS AS A BADGE OF
HONOR IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO HANG OUT WITH THE LONGEST
THAT WE PUT AT THE- WE
APPRECIATE IT WE APPRECIATE THEM
. WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL OUR
LAWYERS TO MARTICHOUX OUR NAMES
- SO THE YOUR BROWSER SO ME JUST
THINK THE COMMITTEE- FOR THEIR
WORK ON OUR BILL AND WE'RE HAPPY
TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS ARE ARE BILL AB
FIFTEEN EIGHTY SEVENS QUITE.
SIMPLE REQUIRES IMPLEMENTATION
OF A NEW MERCHANT CATEGORY CODE
FOR FIREARMS RETAILERS AT THIS
CODE WAS DEVELOPED BY THE
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR
STANDARDIZATION IN SEPTEMBER OF
TWO THOUSAND TWENTY TWO. THE
CONDUCT THEY CREATE CODES FOR
EVERY KIND OF STORE OPERATOR
MASHABLE GROCERY STORES GAS
STATIONS- BOOKSTORES- THESE ARE
THE CODES THE MERCHANT CODES
THAT CREDIT CARD COMPANIES USED
TO IDENTIFY. WHO WERE PURCHASING
FROM AND HOW WE'RE PURCHASING
THE USE OF THIS CODE WILL BE.
VERY HELPFUL IN DETECTING. ANY
ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS FIRE
ARMS TRACKED TRAFFICKING OR A
PURCHASING. THE BILL'S VERY
SPECIFIC TO CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES- WE CONTINUE WE
WORKED VERY THOUGHTFULLY WITH
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS. AND
POLICY COMMITTEES AND- WE HOPE
TO ENSURE VERY SMOOTH
IMPLEMENTATION WITH ME TO
TESTIFY- WE HAVE ROUTE REBEKAH
MARCUS WHO'S- REALLY REGRETTING
CHOOSING- PERSONAL GLASS AND T.
AS AN AUTHOR BUT WE REALLY.
APPRECIATE HER PATIENCE AND
BEING HERE TODAY. I'M ALSO
MISSING A WIN NOW. THIS MARCUS
GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING JERRY
MEMBERS REBEKAH MARKETS
REPRESENTING THE BRADY CAMPAIGN
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF AB FIFTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN. CALIFORNIA HAS
BEEN A NATIONAL LEADER ON
FIGHTING GUN VIOLENCE AND THE
GUN LAWS PASSED BY THIS
LEGISLATURE THE NATION'S
STRONGEST I KNOW THE MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE APPRECIATE THE
SERIOUSNESS AND SCOPE OF THE
NATION'S GUN VIOLENCE EPIDEMIC.
WHICH TOOK MORE THAN FORTY EIGHT
THOUSAND LIVES IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE THAT'S MORE THAN A HUNDRED
AND THIRTY THREE GUNS ASKS EACH
DAY WITH THE RECENT
ESTABLISHMENT OF A MERCHANT
CATEGORY CODE FOR FIREARMS
BUSINESSES. WE NOW HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE AN
IMPORTANT TOOL TO PREVENT
ILLEGAL GUN TRAFFICKING AND MASS
SHOOTINGS AND STOP GUN VIOLENCE
IN CALIFORNIA BEFORE IT HAPPENS
AB FIFTEEN EIGHTY SEVEN WILL
ENSURE WE HAVE THE TOOLS
NECESSARY TO DO THAT. AND OTHER
CONTACTS AND SEE SEASON OTHER
DATA ARE USED BY FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS TO IDENTIFY
POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
INCLUDING MONEY LAUNDERING
FINANCIAL TERRORISM AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING FRY FOR FIREARMS
DEALERS. CAN BE USED TO DETECT
AND DETER ILLEGAL GUN
TRAFFICKING OR A MASS SHOOTING
AND IF THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY
CAN HELP US PREVENT HUMAN
TRAFFICKING THERE'S NO REASON WE
SHOULD ENSURE IT HELPS US
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE. GUN
TRAFFICKERS ROUTINELY ROUTINELY
USE CREDIT CARDS TO BUY THE GUNS
THEY ILLEGALLY TRAFFIC SOME OF
THESE ARE STOLEN CREDIT CARDS
AND SUMMER CARDS USED AND STROP
PURCHASES. IN A RANGE OF
CONTACTS FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS
COULD IDENTIFY ILLEGAL
TRAFFICKERS BUT ONLY THAT BUT
THAT IS ONLY IF GUN DEALERS USE
THE DEDICATED AND CC. AB FIFTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN WOULD MAKE THAT
POSSIBILITY A REALITY I WOULD
REQUIRE USE THE M. C. C. ON IT.
EMINENTLY REASONABLE TIME FRAME.
AB FIFTEEN EIGHTY SEVENS
REQUIREMENT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE
THE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES HAVE
CURRENTLY PAUSED ADOPTION OF
THIS MCC. THIS BILL WILL NOT
CREATE MANDATES FOR THE SELLERS
OR THE CONSUMERS BUT RATHER FOR
THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO DO
WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING WITH
EVERY OTHER MCC CODE WITH
ENFORCEMENT. BY THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN ALONG WITH OUR CO
SPONSOR GIFFORDS URGE THE
COMMITTEE. TO APPROVE THIS
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF THIS
IS SUPPORT OF AB FIFTEEN EIGHTY
SEVEN. RIGHT TO STAND FOR WHAT
STERN VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
MARY LOU ROSATO- MOMS DEMAND
ACTION VOLUNTEER FORMER LAW
ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU. I KNOW
THIS IS SUPPORT SAYING NO ONE
ELSE APPROACH MICHAELIS TURN THE
OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AB
FIFTEEN A SEVEN PLEASE PROCHE
MICROPHONE. THING NO ONE
APPROACH TO MY PHONE LET'S NOW
TURN TO THE PHONE LINES. WATER
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE WORDS
SUPPORT OPPOSITION AB FIFTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN. PLEASE OMIT WISHES
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO LINE
FOR EIGHTY FIVE. PLEASE GO AHEAD
. ANY OFFER WITH EVERY TOWN FOR
GUN SAFETY IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL THANKS. NEXAVAR LINE FOR
SEVENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. TIM
SMITH TOWARD THE END OF THE
ALPHABET WHETHER SORTED BY FIRST
OR LAST NAME SINAMA COUNTY BRADY
UNITED. IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. NEXT TO A LINE FOR EIGHTY
TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. FOREIGN
THINKING VOLUNTEER WITH BRADY
SAN FRANCISCO STRONG SUPPORT FOR
THE BILL. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO
ONE ELSE QUEUED UP AT THIS TIME
MISTER CARLOS FREE BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS SEEING NO QUESTIONS NO
COMMENTS IS THERE A MOTION.
SENATOR BYRD ARE ALSO MOVES THE
BILL. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
CEMENTING WE LIKE CLOSE DOWN
THANK YOU CENTER- JUST RESPECT
FOR SUPPORT OF. ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY ONE AB FIFTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE I'M
BURKE AYE. BURKE AYE WILK. ALLEN
ASHLEY. SB I. CABALLERO.
CABALLERO I RUSSELL. RUSSELL I
LAYERED. CLEARED BY MEN. MEN I
ANY LOW. MILANO'S STERN. STERN
ONLINE WIENER WIENER I. NO EIGHT
SOMEONE. WILL CANNELLA EIGHTY
TO. EIGHTY TWO WILL PUT THAT ON
CALL. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU- IS IT
DOES THIS IS THIS IS SMALL
CONSOLATION BUT NEXT YEAR WE'RE
GOING TO CHANGE UP HOW WE'RE
GOING TO- ORGANIZED BILLS IN
TERMS OF. THE ORDER AND I. THIS
IS HIM AS I THOUGHT I HAD ABOUT
UNTIL MISTER RIVER. THIS IS A
BIRD IS GOING TO GET A SPECIAL
HONOR HE'S HE'S BEEN HERE VERY
VERY LONG. ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT
ALL RIGHT NEXT MISTER WALLACE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WALLIS. IDEA NO
WE'RE WE ARE CRANKING I DON'T
ACTUALLY. KNOW WHERE A- WELL IT
WILL TAKE SO YOU DON'T GO AHEAD
YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT AN HOUR
AND A HALF. GOOD MORNING I GUESS
THESE ARE OUT OF DATE GOOD
EVENING MISTER CHAIR AND
SENATORS I HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY
ASSEMBLY BILL FOURTEEN FORTY
EIGHT I KNOW YOU HAD A LONG
HEARING SO I'LL BE QUICK I WANT
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR ANALYSIS AND THEIR
ASSISTANCE IN SORTING OUT THE
VARIOUS PROCEDURAL ISSUES WE
FACED. AB FOURTEEN FORTY ABLE
HANDS LOCAL ENFORCEMENT
MECHANISMS FOR UNLICENSED AND
UNREGULATED CANNABIS ACTIVITIES
THAT HAVE HAD A DESTRUCTIVE
IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITIES. UNDER
STATE LAW LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
CAN IMPOSE PENALTIES FOR
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS VIOLATIONS
THROUGH THE JUDICIAL PROCESS.
BUT ANY NET RECOVERY GOES THE
STATE MAKING THIS MECHANISM LESS
ATTRACTIVE FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. AT FOURTEEN FORTY
EIGHT WILL ENCOURAGE LOCALITIES
TO USE THE STATUTORY PENALTIES
UNDER BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS
CODE TWO SIX ZERO THREE EIGHT BY
ALLOWING A FIFTY FIFTY STATE
LOCAL SPLIT OF THE STATUTORY
PENALTIES RECOVERED BY LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. REVENUES FROM
THESE ACTIONS WILL PROVIDE A
MUCH NEEDED SOURCE OF FUNDS TO
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO REINVEST IN
ENFORCEMENT AGAINST ILLICIT
CANNABIS. I WILL BE STRIKING
SECTION TWO WHICH HAS INTENT
LANGUAGE FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE
PROCEDURE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
TO SWIFTLY ADDRESS ILLEGAL
CANNABIS ACTIVITIES. WE FINALLY
HAVE ACCEPTABLE LANGUAGE WE
DON'T HAVE IN THE RIGHT
COMMITTEES OR MOVING FORWARD IF
ONLY SECTION ONE OF THE BILL. WE
ENJOY BROAD SUPPORT HAVE NO
OPPOSITION AND WITH THAT I'D
LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY WITNESS SIR
DEKAT POLICY ADVOCATE FOR RC RC
THE SPONSOR OF AB FOURTEEN FORTY
EIGHT. HUNDRED THANK YOU FORGERS
ARE THIRTY CAN ON BEHALF OF THE
RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES AND THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES- THIS BILL IS WHAT WAS
ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED AND
RECURSO WITH A FIFTY FIFTY SPLIT
MOST THE TIME AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
MORE DEALING WITH CANNABIS FOR
CODE ENFORCEMENT. THOSE FINES
ARE GOING TO BE LOWER THE
BECKLEY A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY.
MAYBE A TWO THOUSAND IF THEY
HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR
CANNABIS. USING THIS WILL HELP
US TO UTILIZE A STATE PENALTIES
WHICH IS A LARGER DETERRENT. AND
ALLOW US TO KEEP PART OF THOSE
PORTIONS TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE
ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY. CURRENTLY
THE STATE'S GETTING ZERO
PERCENT. 0% ZERO AND SO NOT ONLY
WILL THIS HELP US WE WILL BE
RETURNING DOLLARS TO THE STATE
WHICH RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GETTING
NINE. WHICH YOU TOO CAN RE
INVESTOR LOOK ONE FORCED- I'M
HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECH.
QUESTIONS THANK YOU. RT THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT. OTHERS OTHERS IN
SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING FILL THE
ASSEMBLY SHOT HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE
COUNTY OF SISKIYOU IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE
IN SUPPORT. THING KNOWN APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE LET'S GO THE
OPPOSITION IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO
AB FOURTEEN FORTY EIGHT PLEASE.
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. THING
NO ONE APPROACH LET'S GO TO THE
PHONE LINES MOTOR PLEASE Q. OF
THOSE ARE IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION AB FOURTEEN FORTY
EIGHT. OF COURSE LATER JIM IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE.
ZERO AT THIS TIME. THE ON THE
LINE THREE FORTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
. GOOD EVENING NICOLE MORTAL MAN
ON BEHALF OF STEPHANIE. COUNTY
IN SUPPORT. NATURAL LINE FOUR OH
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
GOOD EVENING THIS IS A LIST OF
THE- MOST. OF IT BEING IN
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS IN THE COUNTY OF
RIVERSIDE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO
ONE ELSE IN THE HUMID CARE. ALL
RIGHT. I'LL BRING YOU BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS C. NG NO QUESTIONS IS
THERE MOTIONS. STERN MOST OF L.
WHICH LIKE CLOSE. THANK YOU
MA'AM SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
FORTY TWO A. B. FOURTEEN FORTY
EIGHT THE MOTION IS TO PASS THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE-
BURKE HI. I WILL CRY WILK I
ALAN. ASHBY HI. ASHLEY I
CABALLERO. COPYRIGHT TWO RUSSELL
RUSSELL I LAYERED. LAYERED I AM
IN. MEN I AMY LO. LO AYE STERN
AYE STERN AYE WIENER. WIENER I
TEND ZERO. TEN ZERO WILL PUT
THAT ON CALL ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
MISTER WALLACE SO THE NEXT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD THEN
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. YEAH I. KNOW
HE'S- BEEN RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT.
IT'S NOT. WHAT YEAH THE- I WOULD
HAVE BEEN HERE. I WOULD HAVE
BEEN SAUNDERS SO HAS LATER WE AT
A BILL SO SOME. MEMBER BEFORE
YOU GO YOU GO ME LET ME- DO A
LITTLE HOUSE. SO WE'RE GONNA
ASSEMBLY WOULD- AND I DON'T KNOW
THAT WE HAVE TIME FOR ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS OF FOR THIS HEARING. BUT
BUT IF WE DO HAVE TIME THEN WILL
TAKE ASSEMBLY MEMBERS OF BIRTH
AND THEN WE'LL GO TO TWO BILLS
THAT WOULD BE RESENTED BY
SENATOR ALLEN- ITEMS FOURTEEN
FIFTEEN ABOUT- AUTHORED BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER GABRIEL. I THEN
WILL BE DONE- AT LEAST FOR NOW.
RIGHT RIGHT OKAY. THE MEMBER
WOULD THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH SAID MISTER CHAIR AND
SENATORS- EIGHTY FIVE NINETY
FIVE BUILDS UPON MY PRIOR
LEGISLATION TO ENSURE THAT
HEALTH PLANS REQUIRING A
PHYSICIAN GROUP ARE SUBJECT TO
REGULATORY REVIEW. OF STUDIES
SHOW THAT MERGERS AND
ACQUISITIONS AND HEALTH CARE NOT
LOWERING COSTS FOR ANYONE BUT
HE'S DOING IT AND THERE ARE REAL
CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THOSE
MEASURES HOW THOSE HOW THESE
MERGERS COULD REDUCE OR LIMIT
ACCESS TO CERTAIN HEALTH CARE
SERVICES. THIS BILL ENSURES THAT
REGULATORS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
REVIEW SUCH TRANSACTIONS AND
THEIR IMPACT ON CONSUMERS. THIS
BILL AUTHORIZES DEPARTMENT
MANAGED HEALTHCARE- THE DIRECTOR
TO REVIEW KA COMPETITION AND
HEALTH SYSTEMS ARE HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS AND REVISED THIS
INFORMATION TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL. RECENT TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE AND I BELIEVE THAT'S
WHY THIS BILL IS HERE IN FRONT
OF THIS COMMITTEE. VERIFY THAT
THE AG'S AND THOR ENFORCEMENT
AUTHORITY IS CONSISTENT WITH
EXISTING LAW. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR AYE VOTE. A VERY MUCH A WIN
IS IN SUPPORT OF AB. ONE ZERO
NINE TWO PLEASE POST MY PHONE.
PLEASURES GOOD EVENING MR
TERENCE SENATORS DIANA DOUGLAS
POLICY DIRECTOR WITH HALIFAX'S
CALIFORNIA. THE STATEWIDE
CONSUMER HEALTH CARE ADVOCACY
COALITION HEALTH ACCESS PROBABLY
SUPPORTS AB TEN NINETY TWO WHICH
WILL ENSURE THAT WHEN HEALTH
PLANS MERGER REQUIRE OTHER
ENTITIES LIKE PHYSICIAN GROUPS.
THERE IS A REVIEW FOR THE
IMPACTS ON THE MERGERS OF THE
MERGERS ON CONSUMERS AND THE
STATE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO
CONDITION MERGERS TO PREVENT
NEGATIVE HEALTH IMPACTS. HEALTH
ACCESS PREVIOUSLY SPONSORED AB
FIVE NINE FIVE MY DOCTOR WOULD
WHICH THE LEGISLATURE PASSED IN
TWENTY EIGHTEEN. THAT WILL
REQUIRE THAT WHEN TO HEALTH
PLANS MERGE OR AND- OR ANOTHER
ENTITY ACQUIRED A HEALTH PLAN
THEY WOULD SEEK APPROVAL FROM
THE DEPARTMENT. UNDER THE LAW
THE DEPARTMENT REVIEWS THE
MERGER FOR THE IMPACTS ON
CONSUMERS AND PURCHASERS
COMPETITION COSTS AND QUALITY
AND HOLDS A PUBLIC MEETING ON A
MAJOR TRANSACTION. AB TEN NINETY
TWO CLOSES A CRITICAL GAP IN
THIS OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY BY
REQUIRING THAT WHEN HEALTH PLANS
ACQUIRE OTHER ENTITIES THOSE
MERGERS HAVE THAT SAME
OVERSIGHT. SINCE THE PASSAGE OF
AB FIVE NINE FIVE AN INCREASING
TREND WE'RE SEEING IS HEALTH
PLANS BUYING AND MERGING WITH
ITS POSITION GROUPS. AND THAT
DOES NOT HAVE OVERSIGHT UNDER
EXISTING STATE LAW. FOR EXAMPLE
OPTUM HEALTH MEDICAL GROUP OWNED
BY UNITED HEALTHCARE PURCHASED
TWO OF THE LARGEST PHYSICIAN
ENTITIES SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
UNITED HEALTHCARE A HEALTH
INSURANCE COMPANY MAY TODAY BE
THE LARGEST EMPLOYER OF
PHYSICIANS IN AMERICA AND IS
GROWING. LIKE HEALTH PLAN
MERGERS ELIMINATING OR LESSENING
COMPETITION AMONG PROVIDERS AND
INSURERS AND PLANS CAN LEAD TO
INCREASING COSTS FOR CONSUMERS.
AND LESS COMPETITION FOR QUALITY
AND TYPES OF SERVICES. THAT WHY
REQUIRING THAT ALL TYPES OF
HEALTH PLAN MERGERS HAVE STATE
REVIEW FOR THESE IMPACTS IS SO
CRITICAL FOR PROTECTING
AFFORDABILITY AND QUALITY OF
CARE. THE LEGISLATURE HAS MADE
CONTAINING HEALTH CARE COSTS A
PRIORITY IN THIS IS IMPORTANT
MEASURE TO DO JUST THAT AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AYE VOTE ON
AB TEN NINETY TWO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SPORT AB TEN
NINETY TWO PLEASE APPROACH MIKE
PHONE. THAT'S FINE I'LL SEE THIS
YEAR CALIFORNIANS STRONG SUPPORT
ALL RIGHT. REBECCA MARKETS
REPRESENTING HELP HER AGAIN
SUPPORT THANK YOU OTHERS IN
SPORTS THING KNOWN APPROACH
MIGHT PHONE LISTS FOR THE
OPPOSITION. YOUR OPPOSED AB
TONIGHT TO PLEASE APPROACH. GOOD
EVENING MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE JOHN VALENCIA HERE
REPRESENTING VSP VISION AND ITS
CORPORATE AFFILIATES VSP
VENTURES. WE ARE AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION FOR THE
FOLLOWING REASON. VSP IS A NOT
FOR PROFIT SPECIALIZED HEALTH
CARE SERVICE PLAN IT OFFERS
VISION ONLY. COVERS FOURTEEN
MILLION CALIFORNIANS NINETY
MILLION PLUS AMERICANS THROUGH A
NETWORK OF INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY
BASED PHARMACY OPTOMETRY SKEWS
ME UP. ATOP THE METRIC PRACTICES
OF. IT THEN IT OVER HALF OF THE
DISTRICTS REPRESENTED ON THIS
PANEL. UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE
SIX FIFTY FIVE. SUBJECT TO THE
LIMITATIONS OF BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS CODE THIRTY SEVENTY
SEVEN. OUR SUBSIDIARY IS
FINANCING THE PRESERVATION OF
THOSE COMMUNITY BASED-
OPTOMETRIC PRACTICES BY
FINANCING PROFESSIONAL
CORPORATIONS WHICH IN TURN.
RELIEVE THE INDIVIDUAL
PRACTITIONERS OF THEIR LEASES
AND OF THEIR EMPLOYEES IN ORDER
TO KEEP THE PRACTICES GOING AND
ENABLE YOUNGER DOCTORS ENTERING
THE PRACTICE. FROM ABOVE BUT TO
BE ABLE TO SIMPLY FOCUS ON THE
PRACTICE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE
BUSINESS. SUBJECTING THOSE MICRO
TRANSACTIONS WHICH WILL HAPPEN
SCORES DOZENS HUNDREDS OF TIMES
EVENTUALLY THE DMH SEEK REVIEW.
WE THINK WILL ADD UNNECESSARY
TIME AND CERTAINLY COST OF THOSE
TRANSACTIONS SO WE RESPECTFULLY
ALL THREE OPPOSITION BASED ON
OUR REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT.
READY THANK YOU VERY. MUCH
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR NICKEL IS US ON
BEHALF CALIFORNIA'S OF HEALTH
PLANS WERE- IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION OF AB TEN NINETY TWO.
YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WOULD END. AS BEING A
CHAMPION OF AFFORDABILITY AND
MARKET STABILITY IS CHAIR OF
HEALTH COMMITTEE BUT I
REGRETTABLY. IF YOU DISAGREE
WITH THEM ON THIS PARTICULAR
BILL. THE- THE DEPARTMENT OF
MANAGED HEALTHCARE ALREADY HAS
THE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE OUR
REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS ON
HEALTH PLAN TRANSACTIONS- IN THE
DEPARTMENT IS NOT SHY ABOUT
USING THIS AUTHORITY.
REGRETTABLY AB TEN NINETY TWO
PLACES EVEN MORE CONDITIONS ON
INTO EXISTING LAW THAT WE
BELIEVE WILL GIVE THE GOVERNMENT
MORE LEVERAGE TO DEMAND
UNDERTAKINGS ARE FROM OUR HEALTH
PLANS WHEN THEY ENGAGE IN THESE
TRANSACTIONS- IN THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WERE ADDED TO THE BILL- AS
PART OF THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
AT THE AUTHOR REFERENCED- YOU
KNOW FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE MAKE.
THE BILL WORSE- YOU KNOW
SPECIFICALLY- THE LANGUAGE
STATING THAT ACQUIRING ENTITY.
IS FURTHER DEFINED AS INCLUDING
THE ACQUISITION OF AN ENTITY BY
A CORPORATE AFFILIATE OF HEALTH
PLAN IF THE AGREEMENT. OR
TRANSACTION WILL IMPACT AND
RELEASE OF THE HEALTH PLAN- IN
THE STATE- YOU KNOW WE BELIEVE
IS VERY BROAD- THIS LANGUAGE
ABOUT CORPORATE AFFILIATES.
COULD CAST A VERY WIDE NET
INCORPORATED- ACTIVITIES- THAT
SEEM TO BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF
THIS BILL- YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE
IF A PARENT COMPANY OF THE
HEALTH PLAN. ACQUIRED OF THE
CORPORATION I WOULD PROVIDE SOME
SORT OF ANCILLARY SERVICE- THAT
COULD TRIGGER OTHER REVIEW
REQUIREMENTS OF THIS BILL-
BECAUSE IT WOULD IMPACT THE
QUOTE UNQUOTE IMPACT ENROLLEES
OF THE HEALTHCARE SERVICE PLAN
WHICH IS VERY. BROAD IN KIND OF.
A VAGUE PHRASE ON IT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED A MAJOR TRANSACTION
BECAUSE IT AFFECTS A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER OF ENROLLEES POTENTIALLY
AND SO- YOU KNOW WE DON'T THINK
THIS IS PARTICULARLY WELL
THOUGHT OUT- YOU KNOW VIA THE
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. I WE JUST
ADDED ADDITIONALLY THE NEW
OFFICE OF HEALTH CARE
AFFORDABILITY WHICH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WOULD CHAMPION IN THE
LEGISLATURE- AT PLANS TO TAKE
AIM. AT THAT TRANSACTIONS TAKE A
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. TO
ADDRESSING THINKING OF
HEALTHCARE COSTS YOU CAN WRAP IT
UP YEAH AT ALL ALL THE SAID THAT
THE OFFICE HAS STATED THAT YOU
WILL BE REVIEWING OF OVER A
HUNDRED HEALTHCARE TRANSACTIONS.
I MEAN IN IN HAVE IN THE- CARE
INDUSTRY WRIT LARGE SO- WE THINK
THAT- YOU KNOW THE- BEFORE YOU
PROTECTIONS IN THE CURRENT LAW
OR EXISTS ALL RIGHT. YOU OPPOSE
THE BILL THANK YOU ARE. OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION PLEASE PRAY SAY
KNOWN APPROACH LET'S TRANSFORM
FOR THOSE AND SUPPORT
OPPOSITION. AB TEN A- FEW
INTENDED TO. HM IF WISHING TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WILLING TO LINE FOR
EIGHTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD EVENING MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE GRIPPING WITH THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES
AND SUPPORT. YOU NEXT DEADLINE
FOR EIGHTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. THE BOSTON THURMOND PARTIES ON
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXTERA LINE
THREE NINETY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THREE NINETY NINE ALIVE
OPEN. BUCKINGHAM WE CAN GO
AHEAD. HI ARE YOU GONNA DANIEL
SANCHEZ ON BEHALF OF THE
LEUKEMIA AND LYMPHOMA SOCIETY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THERE IS
CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE IN THE
QUEUE AT THIS TIME MISTER CHAIR
. THAT'S CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE
IN QUEUE AT THIS TIME MISTER
CHAIR. RT THANK YOU LET'S BRING
BACK COMMITTEE QUESTIONS. ANY
QUESTIONS SINGLE QUESTIONS IS
THERE MOTIONS SINISTER MERGE THE
BILL. THOUGH OR WOULD WOULD YOU
LIKE CLOSE I JUST RESPECTFULLY
ASK RIVAL ALL RIGHT THE CHIU
SAID RESPECTFULLY WE'LL GO AHEAD
AND CALL THE ROLL SO. OKAY AWAIT
. UNTIL YOU DO THAT MISTER CHAIR
. THANKS THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY SEVEN AB TEN NINETY
TWO. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE ON BURKE HI NUMBER I
WILL WILL YOU KNOW. WILL KNOW
ALAN. ALLEN I ASHLEY. SB I.
CABALLERO. CABALLERO I'D RUSSELL
RUSSELL I LAYERED LAYERED I AM
IN. THEN I ANY LOW THE LOW NO
STERN AYE STERN AYE WIENER.
EIGHTY TWO. WATCH TURNS OUT WE
DO HAVE TIME FOR MR IS THE BURKE
I JUST BY SEN THANKFUL THAT
THERE'S SOMEBODY LOWER IN THE
ALPHABET THE NAY. AND LONELY FOR
EIGHT YEARS AND NOW I'VE- HAPPY
WELL WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA
SWITCH IT UP WE'RE GONNA SWITCH
IT UP. SO AFTER. BOB THIS IS A
BURR ALL KIDDING ASIDE I
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE HERE
YOU OBVIOUSLY LIKE US A LOT
BECAUSE YOU HUNG OUT HERE FOR
QUITE AWHILE I DO TOO RIGHT.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
I'D LIKE TO START BY THINKING-
THE MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF WHO
FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS
BILL- TODAY I'M PROUD TO PRESENT
AB SIXTEEN TWENTY. WHICH DESPITE
BEING A VERY NARROWLY CRAFTED
BILL WILL MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE
IN PEOPLE'S LIVES BY REDUCING
HOUSING AND SECURITY FOR PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES AND HELPING
OLDER CALIFORNIANS AGE IN PLACE
WITH DIGNITY. THE BILL IS PRETTY
SIMPLE IT REALLY INCREASES
HOUSING AND SECURITY BY GIVING
TENANTS WHO ARE AND RENT
STABILIZED APARTMENTS WITH
PHYSICAL MOBILITY DISABILITIES
THE ABILITY TO RELOCATE TO AN
AVAILABLE UNIT ON THE FIRST
FLOOR WITHOUT HAVING THE RENT
STABILIZED- RENTERIA ADJUSTED-
I'M PROUD THAT THIS BILL IS
SUPPORTED BY THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AND
IS SPONSORED BY TWO CITIES IN MY
DISTRICT THE CITY OF WEST
HOLLYWOOD AND THE CITY OF SANTA
MONICA WHICH HAVE MADE-
PRODUCING HOUSING AND SECURITY A
TOP PRIORITY. AND THERE ARE REAL
PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THIS
BILL- TO BE PASSED IN ORDER TO-
BE BENEFITED BY IT- THIS BILL IS
ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR
HOMES AND LIFTING UP
MARGINALIZED CALIFORNIANS IN THE
FACE OF LONG STANDING SOCIAL AND
SYSTEMIC. INEQUITIES IT'S ABOUT
DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
ADDRESS OUR STATE STAGGERING
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS AND FINDING
SOLUTIONS EVEN SMALL AND
SPECIFIC ONES THAT ARE PRACTICAL
AND COMPASSIONATE. ROUGHLY SIXTY
FOUR PERCENT. OF LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS ARE RENT BURDENED
PUTTING THEM AT HIGH RISK OF
DISPLACEMENT DUE TO AN INABILITY
TO AFFORD BASIC NEEDS PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES
DISPROPORTIONATELY EXPERIENCE
POVERTY HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING
DISCRIMINATION. THIS INEQUITY IS
COMPOUNDED FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES ARE ALSO LGBT Q.
PLUS EMPLOYEES OF COLOR OR
MEMBERS OF OTHER MARGINALIZED
POPULATIONS OLDER PEOPLE AND
PEOPLE DISABILITIES AND READ
CONTROLLED AREAS. NEEDED DESERVE
WAYS TO REMOVE ROADBLOCKS THEY
ENCOUNTER TO BEING RE HOUSED IN
AN ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE
RENTAL UNITS. A. B. SIXTEEN
TWENTY RETAINS LOCAL AUTHORITY
IT DOES NOT FORCE COMMUNITIES TO
DO ANYTHING IT MERELY AUTHORIZES
THEM TO TAKE. THIS APPROACH AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL AND ASSURES
THAT- OWNER WILL CONTINUE TO
RECEIVE RECEIVE. A FAIR RATE OF
RETURN WE WORKED VERY VERY HARD
WITH THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE
TO TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE
FORMALLY NEUTRAL ON THE BILL.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH
THE CALIFORNIA- REALTORS
ASSOCIATION AND WE'RE VERY CLOSE
WE'VE TAKEN A NUMBER OF
AMENDMENTS TO. ADDRESS THEIR
CONCERNS AS WELL. SO THIS BILL
IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS
EMPOWERING TENANTS WITH THE
ABILITY CHALLENGES WERE AT
HIGHER RISK OF EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS. TO REMAIN IN THEIR
HOMES I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I. BOATS. ANYTHING VERY
MUCH THOSE IN SUPPORT OF. AB
SIXTEEN TWENTY PLEASE APPROACH.
A LOT YEAH IT TO TWO PEOPLE
ACTUALLY FROM. DODGE I LET ME
JUST DR JONATHAN HOLIFF WHOSE
REPRESENTING CITY WEST HOLLYWOOD
ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THE BILL
AND SYLVIA SO LEASE. JOHN BEHALF
ABOUT THE OTHER CO SPONSOR THE
CITY SANTA MONICA. THANK YOU. IN
THE CHAIR ON A BILL MEMBERS MY
NAME IS JONATHAN HOLLOW BEHIND
THE RENT STABILIZATION MANAGER
FOR THE CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD A
SPONSOR MAYBE SIXTEEN TWENTY.
THE CORVALLIS OF THE CITY OF
WEST HOLLYWOOD AND IF IT IS FOR
ITS VERY EXISTENCE IS THE
PRESERVATION OF QUALITY.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
THIS SAFE AND ACCEPTING. AND
EMBRACING THESE PRINCIPLES ARE
CITY COUNCIL'S WORK TO ENSURE
THAT THE GREAT MANY RESIDENTS
WHO WISH TO AGE IN PLACE IN THE
CITY ARE ABLE TO DO SO. AS
TENANTS WITH STRONG ATTACHMENT
TO THEIR COMMUNITIES AGE
MOBILITY BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR
THEM. RENT STABILIZED APARTMENTS
ON UPPER FLOORS THAT WERE
PREVIOUSLY AN ACCEPTABLE HOUSING
OPTIONS ARE NO LONGER
ACCESSIBLE. YET IF ABILITY
CHALLENGE RENT STABILIZED TENANT
WANTS TO MOVE TO A LOWER FLOOR
IN THEIR COMPLEX OR ANOTHER
PROPERTY IN THE CITY. THEY MUST
ACCEPT THE NEW MARKET RATE RENT.
WHICH IS NOT A FEASIBLE OPTION
FOR MANY. A. B. SIXTEEN TWENTY
SIX AND EQUITABLE SOLUTION FOR
SUCH COVERAGE TENANTS. AB
SIXTEEN TWENTIES MODEST
COMMONSENSE PROPOSAL RECOGNIZES
THE FRAMEWORK OF EXISTING LAW.
BY CONTINUING REQUIREMENT THE
TENANTS WITH A PHYSICAL
DISABILITY ENGAGE WITH THEIR
LANDLORD. IN THE INTERACTIVE
PROCESS SET FORTH IN THE
CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS.
ONCE THE PROCESS IS THAT WISHES
THAT THE TENANT IS ENTITLED. TO
A LOWER OTHER APPROPRIATE UNIT.
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS MAY REQUIRE
THAT THE TENANTS RENT AND LEASE
TERMS REMAIN THE SAME AS THE
VACATED UNITS. AS THE BILL ONLY
PERMITS A MOVE TO A UNIT OF
EQUAL OR LESSER SIZE. PROTECTS
FLEXIBILITY FOR LANDLORDS WITH
SMALLER PROPERTIES. AND PROVIDES
FOR CONTINUED JUSTIN REES WILL
RETURN. IT OFFERS A BALANCED
APPROACH TO ENSURE GREATER
CERTAINTY FOR POPULATION
VULNERABLE TO HOUSING AND
SECURITY. CITIES GRATEFUL TO
ASSEMBLYMEMBERS BEER FOR
INTRODUCING AB SIXTEEN TWENTY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. I REQUEST YOUR
SUPPORT IN THIS IMPORTANT BILL
THAT WILL HELP SO MANY PEOPLE
REMAINED IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY
CALL HOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OTHER WITNESSES. HI GOOD EVENING
MR TRAN MEMBER SYLVIA SOLUTION
ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF SANTA MONICA. OR PROUD TO CO
SPONSOR THIS BILL. THE CITY
ADOPTED A RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE
IN NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE AND
CURRENTLY. RENTER HOUSEHOLDS
MAKE UP 70% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN THE
CITY. IN ADDITION IN RECENT
YEARS WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE
IN THE PERCENTAGE OF SENIORS. IN
OUR COMMUNITY- WE ARE VERY
PLEASED TO CO SPONSOR THIS BILL
AS WE BELIEVE IT IS ALIGNED
WITH. SOME OF OUR CITY'S
PRIORITIES INCLUDING AGING IN
PLACE WITH DIGNITY. CREATING IN
PROMOTING AN INCLUSIVE AND
DIVERSE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS A
LONG STANDING PRIORITY OF
PROTECTING TENANTS THAT RESIDE
IN THE CITY SO WE ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT THANK YOU. RT THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF AB SIXTEEN
TWENTY. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN BERS MARTHA CARRERA
REPRESENTING THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IN
STRONG SUPPORT RT THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE'S SUPPORT SEEING NO
ONE ELSE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE
LISTER THE OPPOSITION OF YOUR
OPPOSED AB SIXTEEN TWENTY NOW'S
A GOOD TIME TO COME TO THE
MICROPHONE. SIGNALING COMMITTEE
MICROPHONE LET'S NOW GO PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AB
SIXTEEN TWENTY MODERATE PLEASE
QUEUE UP THOSE. INDIVIDUALS AS
AN EVENT YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WILL BE ON THE LINE FOR
FORTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
EVENING MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
SCREEN ON BEHALF CALIFORNIA.
GEISHA REALTORS WITH AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION VERY
GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
THERE ARE CONCERNED HOWEVER IS
HAPPY WITH MY- GUY RESPECTFULLY
REQUESTING OF THOSE THANK YOU.
ALREADY THANK YOU. EXPELLING FOR
NINETY PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOU KNOW
WHY THE HARDWARE REPAIR THE
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
FOR. AND THERE'S CURRENTLY NO
ONE ELSE THANK YOU AT THIS TIME
ESTARÁ LET'S BRING BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. CINNAMON HAS MOVED THE
BILL ALL RIGHT NO QUESTIONS. SO
RECEBER WHICH LIKE CLOTHES. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
THE- RIGHT. AMOUNT SIXTY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY EIGHT AB SIXTEEN
TWENTY THE MOTION IS TO PASS. A
BURKE HI. I WILK HI WILK AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN I ASHLEY. CABALLERO
FIVE ZERO I. COPYRIGHT I ASHLEY
I RUSSELL. RUSSELL I LAYERED.
CLEARED I AM IN. MAN I NEED LOW.
MILANO'S STERN. HI STERN AYE
WIENER. WIENER I. TEND TO ONE.
AND THEN THE ONE THAT BILL IS
OUT THANK YOU. FIRST BILL OUT
CONGRATULATIONS YOU WAIT UNTIL
THE VERY END YOU GOT THE FIRST
BILL OUT. DRESS YEAH. ALL RIGHT
NO CLAPPING ALL RIGHT SO- AND SO
WE HAVE THREE MORE MATTERS WE
HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOURTEEN AB
THIRTEEN OH FIVE. BY SEWER
GABRIEL WHO UNFORTUNATE COULD
NOT BE HERE. AND THEN- A. B. A
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE ALSO BY SEWER
GABRIEL AT A CENTER ALLEN IS
GOING TO PRESENT THOSE TWO BILLS
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE MATTER
TO- CLEAR UP IN THAT IS ITEM
NUMBER. TWENTY ONE EIGHTY FOUR
TWENTY SIX. THRILLED THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING IN AND I
KNOW THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GABRIEL WOULD BE HERE IF YOU
POSSIBLY COULD BUT HE CANNOT YES
ALL THE THIRDLY. GOT THE CARD
CRAZE GUESS COMMITTEE I THINK
THAT'S A HIP A VIOLATION BUT
WILL OKAY. RIGHT SORRY ARE THERE
ARE YOU JESSE SORRY IF I
WATCHED. OF THESE OKAY HE'S OKAY
I SPOKE TO HIM- WE BACK OTHER
HERE THIS IS ALICIA A. B. AB OF
IF THIRTEEN OF I WAS. LET'S
LET'S LET'S MOVE ON TO-
VOLUNTARY CARBON OFFSETS SHELLEY
OKAY ALL RIGHT WELL I'M VERY
PLEASED TO BE PRESENTING THIS
BILL WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH FIRST
IN THE NATION TRANSPARENCY'S
DINNERS FOR VOLUNTARY CARBON
OFFSETS. I IN CONCEPTS. CARMINA
SAID- CREDITS ALLOW AN ENTITY TO
REDUCE ITS NET EMISSIONS BY
INVESTING IN PROJECTS OR ACTIONS
UNDERTAKEN BY ANOTHER ENTITY
THAT REDUCE OR REMOVE GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS NOW FORTUNATELY
THIS IS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE
AS RECENT REPORTS. HAVE SHOWN
THAT MANY OFFSETS FILTER TO THE
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS
ADVERTISED. CURRENTLY THERE
EXISTS NO GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENTAL STANDARDS
REGULATIONS FOR ALL ANSWER
OFFSETS LEAVING CONSUMERS WITH
LITTLE CONFIDENCE THAT WHAT
THEY'RE PURCHASING IS ACTUALLY
DETERMINED. SO THIS BILL SEEKS
TO ADDRESS THIS UNREGULATED
MARKETPLACE BY REQUIRING THE
DISCLOSURE OF CRITICAL
INFORMATION TO INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY REGARDING OFFSET
CREDITS. THESE DISCLOSURES WILL
NOT ONLY GIVE CONSUMERS THE
ABILITY TO COMPARE CREDIT TO
DECIDE WHICH OF THE MOST
IMPACTFUL. BUT ALSO GIVE
RESEARCHERS THE TOOLS NEEDED TO
FURTHER EVALUATE THESE PRODUCTS
TO DETERMINE WHICH CREDITS
ENTITIES AND PRACTICES YIELD
LEGITIMATE RESULTS. THIS BILL
REPRESENTS A MEANINGFUL STEP
FORWARD IN COMBATING CORPORATE
GREENWASHING AND PROTECTING
CONSUMERS FROM FRAUDULENT OFFSET
CREDITS THE DO NOT REPRESENT
GENUINE. EMISSION CREDITS I BET
MISSION REDUCTIONS EXCUSE ME SO-
WITH US HERE TO TESTIFY TODAY I
HOPE THEY'RE STILL HERE. ALL
RIGHT NOW ARE THEY NOT. OKAY
WELL THEY HAD TO GO- SO. AMONG
MY OWN. YES THERE WAS A BURN
THEIR NEGOTIATING THE
JACKSONVILLE AND I THINK. SO-
YEAH WELL. LARA ALL RIGHT ALL
RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT SO- ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF AB
THIRTEEN OH FIVE BY SUMMER
GABRIEL IN APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE. THING NO ONE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE OF
WITNESSES WHO ARE OPPOSED TO AB
THIRTEEN OH FIVE IF YOU APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE THING KNOWN
APPROACH TO THE MICROPHONE. NOW
LET'S GO TO PHONE LINES. WATER
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT
AND IN OPPOSITION TO AB THIRTEEN
OH FIVE. THANK YOU TO MAKE
WISHES BECAUSE SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. THERE'S
CURRENTLY NO ONE IN THE QUEUE AT
THIS TIME THIS YEAR. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU- LET'S BRING BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS SINGING NONE SENATOR
STERN HAS MOVED THE BILL WHICH
LIKE CLOSE. PROFESSIONAL VOTE
THAT THE PERSON WHO WAS GONNA BE
WAS ANDY KATZ THE SIERRA CLUB
THEIR INSTRUCTS AFFORDABLE SLEEP
BUT I THINK I'VE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THAT STRONG. YEAH ALL
RIGHT. THAT IS SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN AB THIRTEEN OH
FIVE MOTION IS TO PASS THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
NUMBER. HI NUMBER FIVE WILK NO
WILL CANNELLA ALAN. ALLEN I
ASKED THE KIDS CABALLERO.
COPYRIGHT THE RUSSELL RUSSELL I
LAYERED. MAN MAN I ANY LOW.
MUELLER KNOWS STERN HI STERN AYE
WIENER. WIENER I. ASHBY I IS
LIKE THE WORST BEFORE REVEALED
TODAY. ALL RIGHT EIGHTY TWO
EIGHTY TWO WILL PUT THAT ON CALL
. NOW LET'S LET'S TURN TO- THE
NEXT ITEM- THAT'S FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIFTEEN. A. B. SIXTEEN
FIFTY NINE BY SEVEN MEMBER
GABRIEL THANK YOU MISTER THIS
ONE IS DEDICATED TO THE VICE
CHAIR WILK. AND I WAS VERY
PLEASED TO PRESENT THIS BILL
IT'S AB SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE IT
WOULD REDUCE ELECTRONIC WASTE
AND PROVIDE GREATER CONSUMER
CHOICE. BY ESTABLISHING A
UNIVERSAL CHARGING INTERFACE FOR
SMALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES IS
SOMETHING WE CAN ALL GET EXCITED
ABOUT SO- WE'RE NO STRANGERS AS
AS CALIFORNIA THE JUNK DRAWER
FULL OF MISCELLANEOUS CHARGERS
AND CABLES WHICH OFTEN
EVENTUALLY FIND THEIR WAY INTO
OUR LANDFILLS IT'S ACTUALLY
TOXIC E. WASTE MONNING CASES.
MANY OF US OF ALSO FOUND
OURSELVES FRUSTRATED WE GRAB A
CHARGER THAT DOESN'T MATCH OUR
DEVICE OR WHEN WE HAVE TO SPEND
EXTRA TO PURCHASE IN THE
NECESSARY CABLE THAT WE DON'T
NEED. ADDITIONALLY THE E. WASTE
PRODUCED BY THIS ABUNDANCE OF
UNNECESSARY CHARGING CABLES AND
BY SECONDARY DOCTORS LEAD TO
HARM FROM TOXIC MATERIALS
POLLUTING OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO
RECENTLY THE E. U. IN INDIA HAVE
TAKEN ACTION TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES BY STOP US IN A U. S. B.
SLASH C. AS A UNIVERSAL CHARGING
INTERFACE FOR SMALLER TRONIC
DEVICES. THIS SIX THE FOLLOW
THEIR LEAD ON THIS ISSUE BY
ADOPTING THE U. S. B. AS A
UNIVERSAL STANDARD FOR CHARGING
INTERFACES ON NEW SMALL
ELECTRONIC DEVICES FOR SOUL THE
MANUFACTURED AFTER TWENTY TWENTY
SIX. SO SUPPORT BY COMPANY
BERMAN VOTERS COMPANY PRICE TO
SHASTA ACTION COUNCIL CONFERENCE
AGAINST WEIGHTS I FIX THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL. AND THE AUTHORS OFFICES
WORK CLOSELY WITH STAKEHOLDERS
TO ADDRESS CONCERNS FROM APPLE
AND GARMIN H. P. ASSUMES HE A
CUTTING- CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION. AND THE HAS
EXPRESSED THEY'RE COMMITTED TO
CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS. BY
MAKING THESE CHANGES WE CAN
PROTECT CONSUMERS IN OUR
ENVIRONMENT AND WORK TO
ELIMINATE THE JUNK DRAWER. WITH
ME TODAY TO TESTIFY AS FOR THE
BILL'S DOUG COBALT IS THE
EXECUTOR ACTOR FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FLOOR'S YOURS THANKS CENTER
ELON- SEN. NUMBER ANSON
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
DUE TO THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR
I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF I
DID- ASK THE SURGEON ARMS HAND
OUT A PACKET FOR YOU- THAT. KIND
OF SHOWS. THE WORLD OF THE
CONNECTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE
FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT
DEVICES- AND- COUPLE THINGS I
JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS. THAT
ONE. CENTER GAVE OUR ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GABRIEL'S BILL IS
ACTUALLY SOURCE REDUCTION AT THE
TOP OF THE HIERARCHY FOR WASTE.
OF WASTE THE WASTE HIERARCHY. AT
FIRST WHEN I WANT TO GET THE
STUFF OUT TO BEGIN WITH YOU WANT
CREATED WE DON'T NEED TO AND
UNFORTUNATELY THE REALITY IS THE
CHOICES MADE BY THE
MANUFACTURERS. MAY CREATE MORE
WASTE BECAUSE OF THE TYPE
CONNECTIONS THEY ARE CHOOSING TO
PUT IN THEIR DEVICES. AND SO AS
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE QUITE
A FEW DIFFERENT ONES- THE YOUR
HEAR AN ARGUMENT THAT BY
LIMITING THE TYPE OF CONNECTION
YOU'RE GONNA LIMIT THE
CREATIVITY OR THE- INGENUITY. OF
FUTURE CONNECTIONS- I WOULD
DISAGREE WITH THAT FOR A NUMBER
OF REASONS ONE BECAUSE WE'RE
SEEING A MIGRATION OF THE U. S.
B. C. ALREADY FERMENT
MANUFACTURES SO THAT'S ALREADY
HAPPENING BUT NOT AT THE SCALE
IT NEEDS TO IN ORDER TO
ELIMINATE THESE THINGS. WHO IS
THE SPEED AT WHICH DATA AND ALSO
POWER CAN BE CARRIED HAS CHANGED
AND SO ONE OF THE KIND OF THE-
NIGHT NEAT THINGS IS. IN
NINETEEN IN NINETEEN NINETY SIX.
THERE WAS U. S. B. ONE ONE OH IS
THE FOR U. S. B. HI- SPEED. AND
THAT WAS- TWELVE MEGABITS PER
SECOND. NOW COME FULL CIRCLE TO
TWELVE SEVEN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
WE'RE NOW AT. TWENTY GIGABITS
PER SECOND SO THAT IS A SIXTEEN
HUNDRED OVER SIXTEEN HUNDRED
TIMES INCREASE. IN SPEED. AND
THAT'S JUST ON THE CABLE ITSELF
HAS NOTHING DO WITH CONNECTION
FILL. YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT BEEN
INHIBITED NOTHING'S BEEN
INHIBITING. TECHNOLOGIES GROWING
AND IT'S GETTING BETTER OVER
TIME- THE NEXT PAGE I WANT TO
POINT YOUR- ATTENTION TO WAS.
THE PITCHERS OF THE CONDUCT OF A
WHAT'S CALLED A PORT REPLICATOR
AND SO. THIS IT ALSO SPEAKS TO
THE A. CAPABILITIES OF THE
CABLES IN THE SPEEDS THAT WE
HAVE TODAY- THIS PURPORT
PARTICULAR PORT REPLICATOR I
HAVE IN MY OWN OFFICE. I USE IT
I RUN TO BE SIR THANK THANK YOU
WE APPRECIATE BREVITY BUT YOUR
TIME IS EXPIRED OKAY STILL VERY
VERY HIGH. STRONGLY ASK FOR YOUR
I. BOATS OKAY THANK YOU THANK
YOU. ARE THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF AB. SIXTEEN
FIFTY NINE. SAY NO ONE ELSE
APPROACH THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE B.
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. GOOD
EVENING TERRY MEMBERS STEPHANIE
MORROW WAS FLOATING INSTANCE AN
ASSOCIATE TERM HAVE A CONSUMER
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION AND
OPPOSITION AB SIXTEEN FIFTY
NINE. I'M AS YOU'VE HEARD I'M AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE WOULD MANDATE
THAT BY JANUARY FIRST VIRTUALLY
ALL SMALL ALL SMALL ELECTRONIC.
DEVICES BE EQUIPPED WITH USB C.
RECEPTACLE- ADOPTING THE SINGLE
CHARGING STANDARD AS THE BEST
AND ONLY PATH FORWARD IGNORES
INNOVATION IS A KEY COMPONENT OF
OUR INDUSTRY. I EVEN THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS POINTS TO THE
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AROUND
CURBING INNOVATIONS AS
MANUFACTURERS WILL BE LOCKED
INTO USING USB C. TECHNOLOGY
THAT'S NOT INVESTING AS MUCH IN
RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT FOR NEW
TECHNOLOGIES THAT MAY BE MORE
ENERGY EFFICIENT. IF AB SIXTEEN
FIFTY AYE PASSES NEWER MORE
EFFICIENT TECHNOLOGIES COULD NOT
BE DEPLOYED IN THE CALIFORNIA
MARKET PLACE ABSENT A
LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. ELECTRONIC
MANUFACTURERS HAVE LISTEN TO THE
MARKET AND OF COALESCED AROUND
THREE COMMON TYPE CHARGERS WHICH
IS A FAR CRY FROM THE ROUGHLY
THIRTY TYPES OF CHARGERS. BACK
IN TWO THOUSAND NINE WE BELIEVE
FURTHER FORCED CONSOLIDATION IS
NOT NECESSARY- IF THE BILL'S
TRYING TO CURB E. WASTE FROM
ENTERING OUR WASTE STREAM WE
ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS COULD HAVE
THE OPPOSITE EFFECT. NOT ALL U.
S. B. C. TYPE HERDERS ARE THE
SAME CONSUMERS ARE STILL GOING
TO BUY AND TRY NEW CHARGERS.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUYING
MULTIPLE CHARGERS TO KEEP IN
YOUR HOUSE YOUR CAR YOUR- YOU
KNOW. OFFICE WHAT HAVE YOU-
ADDITIONALLY THIS BILL CREATE A
NEW STREAM OF E. WASTE AS NON
USB CHARGERS WILL BE MADE
OBSOLETE AND WITH ME AND
TRANSPARENT. LASTLY AB SIXTEEN
FIFTY NINE IS MODELED AFTER AN
E. U. DIRECTIVE THAT LARGELY
BECOMES EFFECTIVE AT THE END OF
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR. THIS
APPROACH INCLUDES REGULATORY
OVERSIGHT FOR THE CONTINUOUS
MONITORING OF THE ROLL OUT- OF
THE IMPACTS IMPACTS OF THE U. S.
B. C. MANDATE ALONG WITH THE
PRODUCTION OF REGULAR. REPORTS
WE BELIEVE THAT IT MAKES MORE
SENSE TO REVISIT THIS APPROACH
AT A LATER DATE. IN ORDER FOR
CALIFORNIA TO THE EVALUATE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE YOU
PROPOSAL AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY
CHANGES IN CURRENT STATE LAW. TO
ADDRESS SHORTFALL AND ANY
ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS IDENTIFIED
BY THE E. U. IMPLEMENTATION
PROCESS. FOR THESE REASONS AND
OTHERS WE ARE OPPOSED. AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE THANK YOU. RT
THANK YOU. OTHERS WHO ARE IN
OPPOSITION PLEASE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE SAYING NO ONE. ELSE
APPROACHING MY FULLEST DURING
THE PHONE LINES TO SEE IF-
SOONER NO I'M JUST KIDDING- TURN
THE PHONE LINES FOR THOSE
SUPPORT OPPOSITION. LET ME FILL
VICIOUS BECAUSE FORD OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE. AND
ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'RE GOING
TO LINE FOR NINETY ONE PLEASE GO
AT. PUBLIC OFFERING IN THE
COUNTRY STANDS APART. EXETER
LINE FOR NINETY TWO. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YOU DON'T ON BEHALF OF
STOCK WAIT. NATIONAL TO SHIP
ACTION COUNCIL IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ONE
ELSE IN THE QUEUE MISTER.
ALREADY LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE CENTERMAN. I WANT TO
THANK THE OTHER DURING THIS BILL
FORWARD. MR ALLEN SAYS NEXT
THING ON THE FLOOR AND- HE KEEPS
POURING MY USB C. CHARGERS SO.
IF WE HAVE MORE THESE UNIVERSAL-
CHARGERS I HOPE THEY'LL GET HIS
OWN EVENTUALLY BUT- I WITH THAT
I'M OF THE BILL. ALL RIGHT-
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A PERSONAL
INTEREST IN THIS PARTICULAR
PIECE OF LEGISLATION CENTER
WINNER YES AND WIENER. I AM VERY
WAS VERY I JUST WANT ALSO NOTE
THAT- THE ENVIRONMENTAL. IMPACT
IS REAL BUT IT'S ALSO- AND-
WE'VE SEEN I WON'T NAME A
PARTICULAR MANUFACTURER THE
SOMETIMES- CHANGES IT'S- COURT.
ARE BASICALLY TO FORCE YOU TO
PURCHASE A NEW WINE AND PEOPLE
WHO AND I'M TALKING IN THE
MANUFACTURE BUT WE ALL KNOW IN
TALKING ABOUT- AND IT'S- IT'S
TOTALLY ANTI CONSUMER AND SO
THIS JUST MAKES. ALL THE
DIFFERENCE ALL THE SENSE IN THE
WORLD. RIGHT. YES CENTER STERN.
MR- PRECIADO THAT I JUST A. M.
MAYBE YOU CAN RELATE BACK TO
AUTHORED DEFINITELY SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE STANDARD. AT LEAST TO
CONSIDER AN EVOLVING STANDARD
HERE SO THAT IF WE IF WE DON'T.
WE SPECIFICALLY CAUGHT U. S. B.
C. I BECAUSE I GUESS THAT'S HOW
THE U. S. SENATE BUT IF THAT
INVOLVES AND THERE'S CONSENSUS
AND THERE'S BETTER CHARGING
AVAILABLE OR BETTER HIGHER DATA
RATES. BE GOOD TO FIND SOME WAY
THAT WE DON'T TO JUST PASSED
ANOTHER BILL TO THEN PICK
ANOTHER STANDARD THAT IT COULD
BE SORT OF A- AN UPDATING
PROCESS OR SOME MECHANISM TO
FIND A WAY TO UPDATE AS
INNOVATION. UPDATES SO I DON'T
KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING AUTHORS
WILLING TO CONSIDER GOING
FORWARD. MAYBE JUST BRING IT
BACK AND THEY'LL THEY'LL CHEW ON
THAT BUT I'LL BE SUPPORTING
TODAY. ALL RIGHT- OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CENTAMIN
HAS MOVED THE BILL- I AM AND-
I'M INFORMED. OF THAT ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GABRIEL IS IN
CONVERSATION ALL ALONG THE LINES
OF DOING EXACTLY WHAT SENATOR
STERN. SUGGESTED IS THAT THERE
BE A MECHANISM WITHIN THE BILL
SO THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT IS
THE OPPOSITION'S REYES. THAT
THERE IS A NEW INNOVATION THAT
WOULD IMPROVE UPON CURRENT
TECHNOLOGY THAT WE NOT- HAVE
FOREVER LOCKED OURSELVES INTO A
BETAMAX SITUATION. SELF ARE. IF
IT LET ME LET ME JUST ASK THE
OPPOSITION OF THAT'S CORRECT IF
THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY GOING ON. OKAY SO THE
OPPOSITION FOR THE RECORD IS
ANSWERED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE
THERE ARE ON GOING CONVERSATIONS
ALONG LINES IS I I'VE JUST
SUGGESTED. ALL RIGHT YOU KNOW
WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU
TO APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. I SO
THAT THAT SPECIFICALLY HAS NOT
BEEN TALKED ABOUT WE YOU KNOW
WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION WE JUST DON'T WANT
TO BE LOCKED IN AND HAVE THAT
SITUATION RIGHT OF THE BETAMAX
SITUATION SO YEAH. SO I WOULD IF
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GABRIEL IS
WATCHING- I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT
CONVERSATION WILL CONTINUE IN
THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT.
ULTIMATE ARRANGEMENTS SLASH
AGREEMENT WILL PROVIDE FOR- IN
ADVANCE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT DOES
REQUIRE IT IS UNDERSTOOD AND
SUGGESTED SOME SORT OF
LEGISLATIVE ACTION FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO. YOU KNOW. MEET THE REST
THE WORLD STANDARD- ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OKAY. SIR
ALAN. WE WILL RELAY ALL OF THIS
AND- RIGHT AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE
WE KNOW OF THE AUTHOR WE KNOW.
VERY THOUGHTFUL AND- SHE WILL BE
WORKING ON THIS OKAY AND WITHOUT
SURGERY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH BYE- I'M SECTOR PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIFTEEN AB SIXTEEN FIFTY
NINE THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE UMBERG HI. BURKE I
WILK HI WILK AYE ALLEN AYE ALLEN
AYE ASHBY. AYE ASHLEY AYE
CABALLERO. AYE RUSSELL. RUSSELL
I LAYERED. CLEARED I AM IN. MEN
I ANY LOW. MILANO'S STERN AYE
STERN AYE WIENER WIENER I TEND
ONE. TEN ONE THAT'S ANOTHER BILL
ITSELF ALL RIGHT- NOW. LOOK THE
LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. A JACKSON'S
BILL I THINK IT'S ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY ONE TWENTY ONE- FOUR TO
SIX AND- THAT THAT BILL- HAS NOT
HAD A MOTION. NOW ALTHOUGH WE'VE
HAD DISCUSSION- MAY APPROACH
THE- SOON BUT JACKSON OKAY IS
THERE MOTION. THE ADDRESS OF
CENTERS ARE ALSO MOVES THE BILL
ALL RIGHT- WE'VE HAD
CONVERSATION OF THOSE THE
FURTHER CONVERSATION- WOULD LIKE
CLOSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF
YOU WHO'VE- HAVE ENGAGED IN THIS
CONVERSATION- AS- CHAIR OF THE
HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE- I HAVE
MADE IT MY POINT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE KEEP OUR CHILDREN AT THE
CENTER- OF ALL THE THINGS THAT
WE DO. AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT AS
A NEW KID ON THE BLOCK- AS I
SOON AS I FOUND OUT IN A HEARING
THAT WE HAD. KIDS SLEEPING IN
OFFICES BASIS. I FOUND OUT THIS
BEEN GOING ON FOR FOUR YEARS.
AND IT PERSUADED ME TO- GOT A
BILL TO MAKING SURE THAT WE
STARPOINT PRESSURE ON BOTH
COUNTIES AND THE STATE. TO RAISE
THIS TO THE URGENCY THAT IT
DESERVES. THESE ARE OUR KIDS.
THESE CHILDREN GO FROM COUNTY TO
COUNTY. BUT THEY WILL ALWAYS
REMAIN OUR KIDS. AND SO IT IS MY
GOAL TO START THIS CONVERSATION.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED- BUT WE
NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE
DISCUSSIONS. BOB AND I HAVE
PLEDGE TO MAKING SURE THAT
NUMBER ONE AND I HAVE ASKED
COUNTIES TO SUBMIT TO ME
LANGUAGE. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS BILL TO
CONTINUE TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER
BILL- BUT TO DO NOTHING AND TO
TRY TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR- I. AT
FOR ME IS NOT THAT IS JUST NOT
ACCEPTABLE. SO I LOOK FORWARD
TO- CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT THIS- WE'RE GOING TO
FINALLY FIX THIS ISSUE. AND I AM
APPRECIATIVE OF THIS COMMITTEE
WHO HAS. GIVEN US EVEN MORE
MA'AM IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY
ACCEPTED- TO CONTINUE TO MAKE
THIS. A BETTER BILL AND TO
MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS
APPROPRIATE- RECOURSES- MATTER
FACT WE BROUGHT IT WAS A BROUGHT
UP AS AN ISSUE THAT RIGHT NOW AS
IT STANDS THE CURRENT LAW STANDS
RIGHT NOW. THAT THERE ARE CIVIL
PENALTIES ON ACTUAL COUNTY
WORKERS. WE WORKED WITH THIS
COMMITTEE- AND THIS WAS ON THE
BOOKS AS NINETEEN IN THE
NINETEEN EIGHTIES WE WORKED WITH
THIS COMMITTEE TO MAKING SURE
THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT
INDIVIDUALS BUT THIS IS BETWEEN
ACTIONS BETWEEN THE STATE AND
THE COUNTY. SO EVERY TIME WE
MOVE FORWARD AND WE CONTINUE TO
HEAR- ISSUES- WE ARE MORE THAN
HAPPY TO ACCEPT AMENDMENTS- BUT
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION. WE NEED TO CONTINUE
TO MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP THE
PRESSURE ON FOLKS SO THAT WE CAN
DO RIGHT BY OUR KIDS- AND- SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. ALREADY THANK YOU- SIR
JACKSON OF WE COMMUNICATED TO
YOUR TEAM THAT THAT I WAS GONNA
BE SUPPORT OF LIKE BY WILL BE
SUPPORTIVE BUT I KNOW YOU'VE
HEARD SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND I
TRUST YOU WILL. CONTINUE TO WORK
ON THOSE IS THIS BILL HEADS
SHOULD EMERGE IN THE COMMITTEE
TO APPROPRIATIONS ALL RIGHT
ABSOLUTELY I'M SECTOR PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY ONE EIGHTY FOUR TO
SIX THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE- BURKE
AT. AMERICA AYE WILK. WILK KNOW
ALAN. ASHLEY ASHLEY NO.
CABALLERO. RUSSELL RUSSELL I
LAYERED. WEIRD I AM IN. MAN I
ANY LOW. THE LOW KNOWS STERN.
STERN AYE WIENER WIENER I. SIX
TWO THREE SIX THREE ONE IS HERE
ALL RIGHT OF. THE BILLS OUT.
OKAY THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT WE'RE
GONNA GO THROUGH THE ROLE ONE
TIME EVERYBODY'S HERE SO WE'RE
GONNA DO THIS ONE TIME AND THEN
. WE'RE GOING TO GO HOME. ALL
RIGHT. I HAVE. NO SIR NEIL- YOU
YOU ARE A LOCAL BOY SO WE WOULD
WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY.
HOME ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU CAN HEAR
THEM ALL RIGHT SO MADAM
SECRETARY LET'S START AT THE
VERY TOP. AND GO THROUGH THE
ROLE ONE TIME. ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. NUMBER HI. I WILK HI
WILK I S. B. S. B. I. CABALLERO
. ON CONSENT. COPYRIGHT TWO
RUSSELL RUSSELL I AM WIENER.
WIENER I LIVE IN ZERO ONE ZERO
THAT THE CONSENT CALENDARS
ADOPTED. FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE AB
SEVEN SEVEN NINE. NUMBER FIVE
NUMBER FIVE WILK NO LOOK NO
ASHLEY. HI ASHLEY I CABALLERO.
CAREER ON KNOWN TO RUSSELL.
RUSSELL I STERN AYE STERN AYE
WIENER. WIENER I. EIGHT TWO
THREE EIGHT THREE BILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO AB EIGHT
SIX EIGHT. UMBERG I NUMBER I
WILL CRY WILK AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I
ASH BE. SB I. CABALLERO
CABALLERO I'D RUSSELL. RUSSELL I
STERN. STERN AYE WIENER WIENER I
. TEN TO ONE TEN MODELS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE SB SIX
FOUR SEVEN. NUMBER FIVE NUMBER
FIVE WILK NO WILK NO ASHBY ASHBY
I CABALLERO. RUSSELL RUSSELL I
WIENER WIENER I. EIGHT TWO TWO
EIGHT TWO BILLS OUT. I AM NUMBER
FOUR IS WOULD PUT OVER. FILE
ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB ELEVEN FORTY
SEVEN UMBERG HI A BIRD I WILK.
HI WILK I CABALLERO COPYRIGHT
THE RUSSELL RUSSELL I AM WIENER
. WIENER AYE ELEVEN ZERO ZERO
BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX
CARE VOTING I COME HERE ALL.
KABIRA I AM IN. MAN AINI LOW.
WIENER WIENER I. AND IS EURO TEN
ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN AB FOURTEEN SEVENTY TWO.
ARCHER NOT YET HAVING VOTED
NUMBER NO NUMBER NO WILK. HI NOT
VOTING. ALAN. ASHBY ASHBY NO
CABALLERO. APPEAR ON NOTED
RUSSELL. STERN. MMHM THE RUSSELL
I. STERN. WIENER WIENER I.
THANKS TO. TWO SIX TWO TO SIX OF
THE BILL FAILS ARMS ARE MOTION
RECONSIDERATION CENTER LAYERED
MOST RECONSIDERATION WITHOUT
OBJECTION RECONSIDERATION
GRANTED. FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT
VOTING I CABALLERO. I WIENER.
WIENER I. NINE TWO TWO. HI TO
BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER.
NINE EIGHTY FIVE SIXTY. UMBERG
BY I WILK NO WILK NOAH ASHBY. SB
I. CABALLERO. RUSSELL. FILE ITEM
NUMBER NINE AB FIVE SIXTY
BENNETT. RUSSELL I WINNER WINNER
I. EIGHT TWO TWO EIGHT TWO BILLS
OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE AB
EIGHT FAIR VOTING I WILK NOT
VOTING ALAN. ALLEN AYE ASHBY. SB
I. CABALLERO. RUSSELL. RUSSELL I
CLEARED WEIRD I AM IN. MEN
AREN'T ANY LOW. STERN. WIENER
WIENER I. SEVEN ZERO SEVEN ZERO
BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
THIRTEEN AB SIX FOUR FIVE CHAIR
VOTING AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
ASHBY SB I. CABALLERO CABALLERO
I KNEW LOW. THIRTEEN YES NO YOU
WILL KNOW WIENER WIENER I. TEN
ONE TEN ONE BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN CHAIR VOTING I.
SORRY AB THIRTEEN OH FIVE FLARED
. WEIRD I. NINE TWO TWO NINE TWO
BILLS OUT FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO.
FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVENTEEN AB
TEN EIGHTY NINE SURE VOTING I
ASHBY. NUMBER NUMBER SEVENTEEN
TEN EIGHT EIGHTY TO NINETY NINE
GIPSON. SB I. CABALLERO. KABIRA
I'D RUSSELL RUSSELL I NEED LOW.
YOU WILL KNOWN WIENER. SAN
WIENER. WIENER I TEND TO ONE TEN
ONE BILLS OUT. WE HAVE YOU YES
WE HAVE HAD ELEVEN VOTES ON A
VOTED I AM BOTH OKAY RIGHT. THIS
IS FILE ITEM NUMBER. FILE ITEM
NUMBER EIGHTEEN AB THIRTY NINE
CHAIR VOTING I ELON. ALLEN HI
CABALLERO. EIGHTEEN I NEED LOW.
STERN AYE STERN AYE WIENER
WIENER I. THAT'S TEN TO ZERO TEN
ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
NINETEEN AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
CHAIR VOTING I. ALLEN ALLEN I
CABALLERO COPYRIGHT I NEED LOW.
MILANO'S STERN HI STERN AYE
WIENER WIENER I. NINE TWO TWO
NINE TWO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY AB THIRTEEN FIFTY
SIX YOU'RE VOTING I WILL NOT
VOTING. ALLEN ALLEN AYE
CABALLERO COPYRIGHT TWO RUSSELL
RUSSELL AINI LOW. MILANO'S STERN
. STERN AYE WIENER WIENER I.
NINE TO ONE THE MODELS OUT. OKAY
FILE ITEM. NUMBER TWENTY FOUR AB
FOURTEEN SIXTY THREE UMBERG HI
NUMBER I WILK NOT VOTING. ALLEN
. ASHBY CABALLERO. HI BIR NOTE
TO RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED.
WEIRD I AM IN. WE WILL GO WE
WILL KNOW STERN. HI STERN I.
FIVE TWO TWO. YOU WANT ME TO
CALL THE ROLL AGAIN- CALL ROLE
MORE TIME OKAY. WILK ALAN. ASHBY
MAN. I PUT IT DOWN. FIVE TWO TWO
FIVE TWO OF THE BILL FAILS. THIS
IS THEIR MOST RECONSIDERATION.
SINISTER MOVES RECONSIDERATION
THAT OBJECTION RECONSIDERATION
GRANTED. FILE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY
FIVE SB FIVE NINE FOUR CHAIR
VOTING AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I. S. B.
TH. NUMBER TWENTY FIVE AB FIVE
NINE FOUR MAIENSCHEIN. SB I.
CABALLERO APPEAR OFFLINE THE
WEALTH. YOU WILL KNOW WIENER.
WIENER I NINE TWO TWO NINE TWO
BILLS OUT. AND DINNER FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY SIX AB EIGHT FIVE
THREE SHARE VOTING AYE ALLEN.
ALLEN HI ASHLEY S. B. I.
CABALLERO KABIR ALI MEELO.
EITHER NO WIENER WIENER I TURNED
ONE TEN ONE BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY SEVEN AB SIXTEEN
EIGHTY FOUR CHAIR VOTING AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN I ASHLEY ASHLEY I
CABALLERO. CAMARO I KNEW LOW.
THE LITTLE I'M WIENER. WIENER
AYE ELEVEN ZERO UNTIL ELEVEN
ZERO BILL IS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY EIGHT AB SEVENTEEN
FIFTY SEVEN. UP VOTE YOU'RE
VOTING I WILL. THE. FILE ITEM
TWENTY EIGHT AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY
SEVEN YEAH I'M GONNA AMIGO HI
WILK I. OKAY WELL NOW ON. WHEN
YOU'RE JUST GO. OKAY THANK YOU.
FOR I CAN USE. YEAH. SENATOR OUT
ASKING. COMMENT ON THAT ONE THE
CARD OUT OF A THREE TO SEVEN OO
. SEVEN NO. YES YEAH. SO OKAY
WHAT WOULD'VE GONE UP. FILE ITEM
FROM. EIGHT TWELVE TWENTY EIGHT
TWELVE TWENTY EIGHT. SO IF YOU
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GENEROUSLY PHYLUM TWENTY RIGHT
HELLO SPECIAL ORDER.
OKAY WELL TWENTY EIGHT. FILE
ITEM TWENTY EIGHT AB SEVENTEEN
FIFTY SEVEN CHAIR VOTING AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN AYE ASHBY. SB I.
CABALLERO BIRO AINI LOW. WIENER
. WIENER NO. THERE. NINE TWO ONE
NINE TWO ONE BILLS OUT. FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY EIGHT AB ONE
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER MCCANN- NICE
OKAY TWENTY NINE SORRY. FILE
ITEM TWENTY NINE AB ONE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER MCCANN- CHAIR
VOTING I WILL NOT VOTING.
CABALLERO ZERO TWO RUSSELL
RUSSELL I AM IN. MAIENSCHEIN THE
LOW. YOU WILL KNOW STERN STERN I
AM WIENER WIENER I. NINE TO ONE
ON ONE BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER THIRTY AB TEN THIRTY TWO.
YOUR VOTING AYE WILK. NO LOGANO
ALLEN ALLEN I ASH BE. SB I.
CABALLERO. CABALLERO I AM IN.
MAN I ANY LOW. YOU WILL KNOW
WIENER. WIENER AYE NINETY TWO
AND TWO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER THIRTY TWO AB FIVE SEVEN
ONE SHARE VOTING I CABALLERO.
CABALLERO AYE WIENER. WIENER I.
NINETY TWO AND TWO BILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM THIRTY THREE AB FOUR
SIX EIGHT YOUR VOTING AYE ALLEN
. ALLEN I SB SB I. CABALLERO.
COPYRIGHT TWO RUSSELL. RUSSELL
I'M IN. MAN I WILL. THE WILL I
WINNER WINNER I. THREE ELEVEN
ZERO SEVEN ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE
ITEM NUMBER THIRTY FIVE EIGHTY
FIVE OH FOUR TWO ZERO NINE I
WILK NO WILL CAMINO CABALLERO.
COPYRIGHT I WINNER WINNER I.
NINE TWO TWO NINE TWO BILLS OUT
FILE ITEM NUMBER THIRTY SIX AB
ELEVEN SIXTY THREE. VOTING AYE
WILK THE VOTING. CABALLERO
KABIRA I KNEW WILL. WIENER
WIENER I. NINE TWO ZERO NINE
ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM THIRTY
SEVEN SB SIX ONE SIX YOUR VOTING
AYE WILK HI WILK HI ELLEN. ALLEN
I CABALLERO. WIENER WIENER I.
NINE TO ONE ON ONE BILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER THIRTY EIGHT AB
ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE SHARE VOTING
AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I S. B. SB I
COME HERE- I RUSSELL RUSSELL I
WIENER. WIENER AYE ELEVEN ZERO
ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
THIRTY NINE AB THIRTEEN FIFTY
NINE CHAIR VOTING AYE WILK THE
VOTING. ALLEN ALLEN HI CABALLERO
CABALLERO I KNEW LOW. MUELLER
KNOWS STERN I. STERN AYE WIENER
. WIENER I. NINE TO ONE I WANT
BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
FORTY AB FOURTEEN FIFTY EIGHT
SHARE VOTING AYE ALLEN ALLEN I
CABALLERO. THE BUREAU I STERN.
HI STERN I LIVE IN TWO ZERO
SEVEN ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY ONE AB FIFTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN SURE VOTING AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN I. NINE TWO TWO
NINE TWO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY TWO AB FOURTEEN
FORTY EIGHT SURE VOTING I. ALLEN
ALLEN I. ELEVEN ZERO ZERO BILLS
OUT FILE ITEM NUMBER FORTY FOUR
A. B. ELEVEN NINETEEN SURE
VOTING I. ALAN ALLEN HI ASHLEY.
SB I. CABALLERO COPYRIGHT TWO
RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED.
WIENER WIENER I. EIGHT TWO TWO
EIGHT TWO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY FIVE AB THIRTEEN
NINETY FOUR CHAIR VOTING I
CABALLERO. ZERO I STERN STERN
AYE WIENER. WIENER I LIVE IN TWO
ZERO ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY SIX A. B. FOURTEEN
SIXTY FIVE MONNING AYE CABALLERO
. CABALLERO AYE STERN. STERN AYE
WIENER WIENER I. UNDER ONE.
TENDO ONE BUT BEFORE WE CALL THE
ROLL THE LAST BILL I WANT TO
THANK JUDICIARY STAFF. STAFF HAS
DONE AN AMAZING JOB ABSOLUTELY
AMAZING JOB THIS ENTIRE YEAR I
KNOW WE'RE NOT FINISHED BUT I
THINK THAT THE- HEAVIEST LIFTING
IS BEHIND US SO THANK YOU- MADAM
CHIEF COUNSEL MARGE'S STRATA IN
ALL OF YOU EVERYONE OF YOU ERICA
EVERYONE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE- AND SO
WITH THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA
CALL THE ROLL ON THE VERY LAST
BUILT ON OUR BEHALF. AND MORE
AND I'M SORRY IN MORGAN YES
ABSOLUTELY MORGAN THANK YOU
MORGAN THANK YOU YES FILE ITEM
NUMBER FORTY SEVEN AB TEN NINETY
TWO CHAIR VOTING AYE. WIENER
WIENER I NINE TO TRY TO BILLS
OUT. THANK THAT CONCLUDES OUR
BUSINESS ALL RIGHT SO. EVERYBODY
HAVE A GOOD BREAK WE'LL SEE
EVERYONE IN AUGUST. THANK YOU.