SENATE NATURAL RESOURCES AND
WATER COMMITTEE WILL COME TO
ORDER GOOD MORNING THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON AND VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING
RIGHT PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. THREE THREE THREE NINE NINE
NINE EIGHT I WILL MAINTAIN
DECORUM DURING THE HEARING AS IS
CUSTOMARY- WE ARE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN THE-
STREET BUILDING. I WOULD ASK
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO BE PRESENT
ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH QUORUM AND BE- BEGIN
WITH VOTING BUT I WILL PROCEED
AS A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR NOW WE
HAVE FIVE BILLS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA AND A HARD STOP FOR
TODAY'S FOR SESSION BILLS WILL
BE HEARD AND FILE ITEM- SUITE
THREE BILLS ON PRO CONSENT WHICH
WILL HERE WHICH WILL VOTE ON
LATER- BUT FOR NOW WE WILL
PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION OR
FOR STILL. FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE
AB FORTY FIVE AND ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BOERNER IS HERE AND READY
TO PROCEED. I LIKE YOUR SCARF
VERY PATRIOTIC THANK YOU WE HAVE
A BIG BIRTHDAY TOMORROW SO IT'S
ONLY FITTING THAT WE'RE
CELEBRATING ITS THEY WERE IN
SESSION MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRTH
THANK YOU SO MUCH GOOD MORNING
AB FORTY FIVE WOULD AUTHORIZE
THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION TO ADD BLUE CARBON
DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS TO THE
SUITE OF FACTORS IT CONSIDERS
WHEN IT'S LOOKING AT POTENTIAL
MITIGATION WHEN APPROVING
COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS
WHERE FEASIBLE AND APPLICABLE.
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS SUCH AS SEAGRASSES
AND SOUGHT MARSHES ARE MORE
EFFICIENT AT CAPTURING AND SORE
STORING ATMOSPHERIC CARBON. THE
MOST TERRESTRIAL FORESTS IN FACT
SOME BLUE CARBON ECOSYSTEMS
CONSIST KUESTER FIVE TIMES MORE
CARBON THAN TROPICAL RAINFOREST
AND STORE FIFTY TIMES MORE AND
THEIR SURROUNDING SOIL. SADLY
CALIFORNIA'S LOST OVER 90% OF
ITS HISTORICAL WETLANDS AND
THEIR ASSOCIATED BENEFITS THAT
THEY PROVIDE SUCH AS PROTECTING
COASTAL COMMUNITIES. FROM THE
HARMFUL IMPACTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE AND AS WELL SEALEVEL RISE
AND FLOODING. THIS BILL IDEA IS
THE RESULT OF. A TRANSPORTATION
PROJECT IN NORTH COUNTY SAN
DIEGO WHERE IF YOU'RE EVER DOWN
THERE ADVICE YOU TO COME. WITH
ME. AT THE SAN ONLY A LAGOON
WHERE WE WANT Y. IN THE I. FIVE
FREEWAY. THEY DRESSED A NUMBER
OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS
EXPRESSED BY RESIDENTS IN REGARD
TO IMPACTS TO WILDLIFE LIVING IN
THE SIX LOCAL COASTAL LAGOONS.
THIRTY TWO ACRES OF WETLANDS AND
SEVENTY TWO ACRES OF COASTAL
SAGE AND DURING THE PERMITTING
PROCESS THE COAST COMMISSION
APPROVED THE PROJECT WITH
IMPROVEMENTS REALLY RELATED. TO
ENHANCING MARINE AND
ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE
HABITAT AREAS. I WANT TO SAY
WHAT THEY DID IS THEY HAPPEN TO
INADVERTENTLY. ACTUALLY PLANT
MORE ILL GOTTEN THOUGHT MARCHES
IN THE LAGOON AS PART OF THE I.
FIVE WIDENING WE WANT TO TAKE
THIS BEST PRACTICE THAT WE KNOW
WORKS AND NO IT AT LIKE HELPS.
DRESS SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE AND APPLY IT AS
THE- STANDARD OF PRACTICE IN
CALIFORNIA. AND SO THIS
INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO
MITIGATING IMPACTS TO NATURAL
RESOURCES CAN BE REPLICATED IN
BELT AND RESTORE OUR BLUE CARBON
SINKS- I I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE AND I HAVE WITH
HERE. WITH ME TODAY ANGELA CAN
CONSERVE DIRECTOR UP WHILE COAST
IN SANDY. THE SPONSORS OF THIS
BILL THANK YOU MAY PROCEED YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS ANGELA
KEMSLEY ON THE CONSERVATION
DIRECTOR AT WILD COAST. I'M HERE
TODAY TO PROVIDE STRONG SUPPORT
FOR A BI FORTY FIVE WHICH WILL
PROTECT CONSERVE BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS IN THE COASTAL
PERMITTING PROCESS. CALIFORNIA
IS FACING ONE OF OUR BIGGEST
CHALLENGES GOT CLIMATE CHANGE.
LUCKILY CALIFORNIA IS A GLOBAL
BIODIVERSITY HOT SPOT WITH MANY
ECOSYSTEMS NATURALLY ABLE TO
SEQUESTER CARBON. OF SPECIAL
NOTE ARE BLUE CARBON ECOSYSTEMS.
BLUE CARBON IS CARBON REMOVED
FROM THE ATMOSPHERE BY PLANTS
AND COASTAL AND MARINE
ECOSYSTEMS SUCH AS MANGROVES
FORESTS. AS WELL AS THE SALT
MARSHES AND SEAGRASS BEDS
PRESENT ALONG OUR COAST IN
CALIFORNIA. THROUGH
PHOTOSYNTHESIS PLANTS PULL
CARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
AND SOME OF THAT CARBON IS
STORED IN THE PLANTS WOODY
TISSUE IN IN BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS. MUCH OF THAT CARBON
IS ALSO BURIED IN THE SOIL.
SINCE THE SOIL AND BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS IS CONTINUALLY WHAT.
IS A SLOWER RATE OF
DECOMPOSITION SO LESS CARBON IS
RELEASED BACK INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE WITH THE PLANTS DIE.
ADDITIONALLY THE CARBON STORED
IN THE SOIL OF BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS IF LEFT UNDISTURBED.
IT CAN REMAIN STORED FOR
THOUSANDS OF YEARS. DATA FROM
RESEARCH WHILE COAST IS
CONDUCTING WITH THE SCRIPT
INSTITUTION OF OCEANOGRAPHY
SUGGESTS THAT COASTAL WETLANDS
ARE STORING ABOUT FOUR POINT
EIGHT TIMES MORE CARBON. THAN
OUR LOCAL GRASSLANDS
UNFORTUNATELY THOUGH IT'S
ESTIMATED THAT ONLY 10% OF
CALIFORNIA'S HISTORIC WETLANDS
REMAIN SO NOW IS THE TIME TO
TAKE ACTION. AB FORTY FIVE WILL
ENSURE THAT BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS ARE CONSERVED BY
ALLOWING THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION TO REQUIRE
DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS TO OBTAIN
A CERTAIN PERMITS. AND WILL ADD
TO THE RAPIDLY GROWING RESEARCH
IN THE FIELD OF BLUE CARBON BY
REQUIRING MONITORING A PERMITTED
PROJECTS. ADDING REFERENCES TO
BLUE CARBON PROJECTS IN THE
COASTAL ACT IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE LEGISLATURE'S PRIORITY TO
ENSURE ALL STATE AGENCIES ARE
PROACTIVE PARTNERS. IN THE FIGHT
AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE AND
CONTINUES THE LEGISLATURE IS
IMPORTANT EFFORTS TO MODERNIZE
THE COASTAL ACT THROUGH BILLS
THAT ABOUT AT SEA LEVEL RISE.
CIVIL RIGHTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE TO THE STATUTE. SO WE
ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT EIGHTY
FORTY FIVE BECAUSE IT ENSURES
THAT COASTAL WETLANDS WILL
CONTINUE TO BE A NATURAL CLIMATE
SOLUTION FOR YEARS TO COME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARDEN OTHER
WITNESSES TO MOMENT. OKAY WILL
MOVE ON TO- MEET TEST. ANYONE
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENT YOUR
NAME- YEAR FILIATION POSITION ON
THE MEASURE. GOOD MORNING MR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS DROPPING CLAN
ON BEHALF OF THE PORT OF SAN
DIEGO IN SUPPORT. MELISSA ROMERO
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
IN SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MORE TOP ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU- SEE NO
ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE WILL MOVE
ON ANY LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION WE HAVE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION HERE
TODAY. SEEING NINETY WE HAVE ANY
OTHER- ME TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IS BILL. ALL RIGHT
SIGNAL MOVED TO THE PHONE LINES-
WE- THOSE WISHING TO TESTIFY
SHOULD LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS
THEIR NAME AFFILIATION AND
POSITION ON THE MEASURE-
MODERATOR IF YOU COULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS WAITING
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF AB FORTY FIVE WE
CAN BEGIN. THANK YOU MUCH IT'S
WAITED ON THE PHONE LINES IF
YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AB
FOUR FIVE PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
AT THIS TIME ONE FILED BY ZERO.
LET'S GO TO LINE ELEVEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MORNING MILE ON BEHALF
OF THE MID PENINSULA REGIONAL
OPEN SPACE DISTRICT AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. FIVE FOURTEEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. WHICH MY NAME IS JOHN
BORROWER SENIOR THREE KIDS DOT
ORG STRONGLY SUPPORT. THANK YOU
FINE EIGHTEEN YOU ARE OPEN.
HELLO THIS IS SUDIP YO. CLEANER
FOR KIDS DOT ORG STRONGLY
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND ONE
MOMENT I HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE
FOR ANYBODY ELSE PLEASE TAKE
THIS OPPORTUNITY GO AHEAD IT ONE
FILED BY ZERO WHICH IS OFTEN
QUEUE FOR. AB FORTY FIVE POINT
SIXTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. AND
LIKE SIXTEEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO
REACH YOU I THINK YOU TOOK
YOURSELF OUT BUT NO ONE ZERO
AGAIN. PLEASE GO AHEAD LINE
SEVENTEEN. CAROL LEAD
REPRESENTING THREE FIFTY BAY
AREA ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU- STRUCTURE WE GOT NO OTHER
PARTICIPANTS QUEUED UP THANK YOU
FOR EVERYONE WHO TESTIFIED I
WILL BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK
TO THIS- ANY MEMBERS WISHING TO
MAKE COMMENTS OR ASK QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
CENTER PDA CAN. BUT WE CAN'T
MOVE IT SO WE'LL MOVE IT WHEN
APPROPRIATE WHEN WE HAVE A
QUORUM- I WILL JUST MAKE SOME
SHORT COMMENTS HERE MYSELF-
THERE HAS BEEN OPPOSITION
EXPRESSED IN THIS BILL THAT
WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE
CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION
HAS EXISTING AUTHORITY TO
REQUIRE RESTORATION. OF COASTAL
WETLANDS AS APPLICABLE WE KNOW
THAT THERE'S CONSIDERABLE
POTENTIAL FOR CARBON
SEQUESTRATION IN OUR REMAINING
COASTAL WETLANDS THIS BILL IS
PERMISSIVE NOT MANDATORY- IT
AUTHORIZES BUT DOES NOT REQUIRE
THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO
DESIGNATE. A COASTAL WEST
WETLAND RESTORATION PROJECT AS A
BLUE CARBON DIMENSION PROJECT AS
THE AUTHOR POINTED OUT- AND SO I
DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS
RAISED BY OPPOSITION BUT SOME OF
THOSE CONCERNS I THINK ARE
MISPLACED JUST BECAUSE THIS THIS
PARTICULAR BILL IS COMPLETE
PERMISSIVE- THEREFORE I AM
SUPPORTING AB FORTY FIVE WITHOUT
AMENDMENT TODAY AND WITH THAT-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE. YES WHEN THE
APPROPRIATE TIME COMES I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN ITEM I
THE APPROPRIATE TIME MAYBE NOW
BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE
QUORUM SO- ASSISTANT PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. RIGHT WINNER WINNER.
CENTERS MEANT HERE MAN HERE
SEYARTO. NOW HERE- IT'S CORE
HE'S NOT VOTING ARE YOU HERE I'M
NOT. HE'S HERE I AM CENTER ALLEN
. ALLEN HERE DALY. DALY HERE
EGGMAN. EGGMAN HERE GROWTH. HER
TADO. LAYARD MCGUIRE. LIMÓN
PADILLA. VIDEO HERE STERN. OKAY
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND WE HAVE
A MOTION FROM CENTER PADILLA.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
APPROPRIATIONS- THIS IS SYSTEM
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENT
CENTERS MEANT I FRIEDMAN FIVE
ZERO GIVE IT AWAY NOT VOTING. WE
COULD CHANGE YOUR MIND ALLEN.
ALLEN I. DOUBT DALLY NO EGGMAN.
EGGMAN I. GROWTH HER TADO.
MCGUIRE LIMON. VIDEA YEAH I
STERN. THE CURRENT. THE CURRENT
COUNT IS FOR ONE WILL BELIEVE
THAT BILL ON CALL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH SOME OF THEM THINK YOU- AND
WITH THAT WE WILL- BRIEFLY A
VOTE ON CONSENT BEFORE WE HAVE
OUR NEXT BILL- INTO THE BILLS ON
PROPOSED CONSENT TODAY ARE FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWO EIGHTY THREE
EIGHTY EIGHT BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
CONNELLY. FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR
AB EIGHT FIFTY NINE BY SOMEONE
OR GALLAGHER AND FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIVE AB NINE SIXTY SIX BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER DAVIES ASSISTANCE
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CENTERS
MEN MIGHT MEN I SIERRA SIERRA
AYE ALLEN ALLEN AYE DELHI DELHI
I EGGMAN EGGMAN I GROWTH HER
TADO. MCGUIRE MON. MEDINA VIDEO
I STERN. THE VOTE ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR SIX ZERO WILL LEAVE
THAT BILL ON CALL WILL NEXT MOVE
ON TO OUR NEXT BILL- FILE ITEM
NUMBER THREE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
BATH OUR QUE HAN WHO IS IN THE
ROOM AND LOOKS PREPARED TO AT
PRESENT SO PROCEED EVERY RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS- I WANT TO START BY
THANKING COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR INCREDIBLE WORK ON THIS
BILL AND ACCEPTING YOUR
AMENDMENTS- THAT STATE PARKS ARE
AN AMAZING BEAUTIFUL PART OF
THIS INCREDIBLE STATE. AND ALL
CALIFORNIANS AND VISITORS TO
CALIFORNIA SHOULD HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THEM
ONE GREAT WAY TO DO IT FOR THOSE
OF YOU THAT DO IS TO CAMP
HOWEVER THE POPULARITY OF SOME
LOCATIONS CAN MAKE IT INCREDIBLY
DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN A CAMPSITE
RESERVATION. IF ANY OF YOUR
CAMPERS YOU LIKE ME HAVE BEEN ON
YOUR COMPUTER AT EIGHT AM SIR
NUMBER MONTHS BEFORE TRYING TO
GET THAT POPULAR CAMPSITE AND
YOU MAY NOT GET IT. THIS BILL
CHANGES THAT SYSTEM TO REQUIRE
THE ONLINE CAMPING RESERVATION
SYSTEM TO BE MORE USEFUL AND
AVAILABLE FOR CALIFORNIANS THESE
CHANGES ENCOURAGE EARLIER
CANCELLATIONS FOR THOSE WHO
CANNOT HONOR THEIR RESERVATIONS
BECAUSE MANY OF YOU ALSO MAY
KNOW IF YOU'RE CAMPUS AS YOU
SHOP AND CAMPSITES. ARE SITTING
EMPTY BECAUSE PEOPLE THE COST OF
THESE CAMPSITES ARE SO LOW THAT
PEOPLE ABSORB THE COST INTERESTS
DO NOT UTILIZE THE SITE AND WHAT
WE WANT IS PEOPLE IN OUR
CAMPSITES EXPERIENCING THE GREAT
OUTDOORS SO WILL ENCOURAGE
CANCELLATIONS IT WILL PENALIZE
THOSE WHO KNOW CHAU TOO OFTEN.
IT WILL ALSO ALLOW PEOPLE THE
CHANCE TO USE A LOTTERY SYSTEM
INSTEAD OF THAT ATM SYSTEM SO
FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT BE SITTING
AT THE COMPUTER DAY AT AM
BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING KIDS TO
SCHOOL. THEY WORK TWO JOBS THEY
HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO ALSO
ACCESS RESERVATIONS AT OUR MOST
POPULAR SITES. M. EIGHTY SIX
EIGHTEEN AM. IS IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE WORK THE STATE PARKS IS
CURRENTLY DOING TO CREATE A NEW
RESERVATION SYSTEM SO THIS WILL
HOPEFULLY JUST GIVE THEM. OUR
VISION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK HER
ABOUT. THANK YOU WE HAVE BEEN
LEGAL IT SINGLE WHEN THIS IS- DO
WE ANY WITH. IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL IN THE ROOM. LIKE TO. KEEP
YOUR MEAT YOU KNOW SING UNTO IN
THE LEAD WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
. SINGING UNDER WE HAVE ANY LEAD
WITH ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHTS IN NON.
MISTER MODERATOR COULD YOU-
PLEASE SEE IF THERE'S ANY-
WITNESSES ON THE PHONE ANYONE
WAITING TO TESTIFY AGAIN LIMIT
YOUR- TESTIMONY TO YOUR NAME.
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION-
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME WHEN FILED BY
ZERO. AND LET'S GO LINE ELEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING
I'LL BE A MILE AND A HALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS
FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT. GET
ANOTHER REMINDER FOR YOUR
SUPPORT OR- OPPOSITION- PLEASE
PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT
THIS TIME ONE FILED BY ZERO. AND
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP. AT VERY
CONTROVERSIAL AYE SERUM. ALL
RIGHT DO WE HAVE THAT WILL BRING
IT BACK TO THE DAYS DO WE HAVE
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT
SENATOR DOLLY. THANK YOU FOR
THIS BILL SOMEBODY WHO
REPRESENTS- BURNEY FALLS WHICH
IS LIKE A TWO YEAR WAITING LIST.
IN AND THEN I CAN GO THERE
BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO HOME JUST
DOESN'T DALY BUT TOM.
FRUSTRATION WITH THIS IS VERY
HIGH I WILL MOVE THE BILL I
THINK IT'S A- GREAT OPPORTUNITY
FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY. USE THE
SITES AND- AND- DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
THANK YOU SENATOR. ALL RIGHT
SEEING ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A
MOTION FROM SENATOR DOLLY THE
MOTION IS. DO YOU PASS AS
AMENDED APPROPRIATIONS- SYSTEM
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CENTERS
MEANT. IN HIGH SIERRA. SIERRA
AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE DALY. DELHI
I EGGMAN. EGGMAN I GROWTH.
FURTADO MCGUIRE. RAMON PADILLA.
VIDEO I STERN. STERN HI. THANK
YOU SENATOR. THE VOTE COUNT IS
SEVEN ZERO I WILL LEAVE THAT
BILL ON- CALL SO OUR NEXT BILL.
TO BE PRESENTED IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER SIX AB ELEVEN SIXTY
SEVEN- AND THAT IS ASSEMBLY
WOMAN. WENDY CARILLO IT YOU LOOK
LIKE YOU'RE READY PERCENT SO IF
SO FEEL FREE TO PROCEED. TO OUR
TRAVEL TOGETHER. OKAY. GOOD
MORNING MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS
PROUD TO PRESENT A SYMBOL BILL
ELEVEN SIXTY SEVEN THE ORPHAN
WHILE PREVENTION ACT WHICH WOULD
HELP STOP THE PROLIFERATION OF
ORPHAN WELLS IN OUR COMMUNITIES
AND PROTECT TAXPAYERS FROM BEING
LEFT TO FOOT THE BILL ORPHANED
OIL WELLS ARE WELLS WITHOUT A
RESPONSIBLE OPERATOR AVAILABLE
TO COMPLETE PLUGGING AND
ABANDONMENT ONSIDE RESTORATION.
THESE WELLS POSE SERIOUS THREATS
TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEN ON OUR
ENVIRONMENT THEY CAN LEAK OIL
GAS AND OTHER CONTAMINANTS INTO
THE AIR WATER AND SOIL. THE ECHO
PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY DISTRICT
IS HOME TO THE LOS ANGELES CITY
OIL FIELD AT TWELVE ABOUT ONE
THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY
WELLS WERE DRILLED AND
PRODUCTION PEAKED IN NINETEEN OH
ONE BUT WE STILL LIVE WITH THE
CONSEQUENCES TODAY OF WELLS THAT
STOP PRODUCING OVER A YEAR AGO
OVER A CENTURY AGO. THE OIL
WELLS IS HOME TO THE ROLE ABOUT
LEARNING CENTER THE MOST
EXPENSIVE SCHOOL EVER
CONSTRUCTED. AND THAT HI COSTS
WAS FROM ALL OF THE CLEANUP OF
THE ORPHANED OIL WELLS THAT
NEEDED TO BE DONE. TO MAKE THE
SITE SAFE. AND EDITORIAL FROM
THE LA TIMES EARLIER THIS MONTH
HIGHLIGHTED THE PROBLEM AND ALSO
HIGHLIGHTED A RECENT REPORT BY
CARBON TRACKER ABOUT THE FUTURE
COSTS OF ORPHAN WELLS. THAT
EDITORIAL IDENTIFIED THIS BILL
IS PART OF THE SOLUTION. THAT
REPORT FOUND THE COST OF SITE
CLEANUP FOR CALIFORNIA'S ONSHORE
OIL AND GAS OPERATIONS COULD
POTENTIALLY TOP OUT AS HIGH AS
TWENTY ONE HALF BILLION DOLLARS.
THE REPORT FURTHER FOUND A
SERIOUS FINANCIAL RISK TO THE
STATE FROM ORPHAN WELLS
PRODUCTION CONTINUES TO DECLINE
AND MOST REMAINING PROFIT FROM
EXISTING WELLS IS SHARPLY
DECLINING AS WELL. SO WHAT
FUTURE PROJECTS UP PROFITS UP
SORRY WILL BE NOWHERE NEAR
SUFFICIENT TO COVER PLUGGING AND
ABANDONMENT COST. BACK A BOND
FUNDING HELD BY THE STATE IS
ALSO COMPLETELY INSUFFICIENT.
THE STATE CURRENTLY REQUIRES
WELL OPERATORS TO ONLY PUT UP A
VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL
SECURITY AN AVERAGE OF A
THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WELL EVEN
THOUGH THE COST. OF AN AVERAGE
IS SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER
WELL FOR CLEAN UP BECAUSE OF
THIS IT IS ESTIMATED THAT LESS
THAN 1% OF THE CLEAN UP PRICE
TAG IS CURRENTLY HELD BY STATE.
BY THE STATE IN BONDS. THE RISK
IS GETTING WORSE. BECAUSE AN
INCREASING NUMBER OF IDLE WELLS
ARE BEING TRANSFERRED TO SMALLER
POTENTIALLY LESS SOLVENT
OPERATORS THIS IS NOT A NEW
TREND. CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS HAVE
ALREADY PAID TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS FOLLOWING THE BANKRUPTCY
. OF THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT OIL
WELLS THERE IS AN INCOMING TIDE
OF IDLE WELLS AND THE AND THE
WAY IN EVERY PART OF OUR STATE
ACCOMPANIED BY. A FLOOD OF RISKY
TRANSFERS OF THOSE WELLS TO
SMALLER OPERATORS THIS
LEGISLATION IS ABOUT TAKING
ACTION. NOW TO INTERRUPT THAT
TREND MAY BE ELEVEN SIXTY SEVEN
WILL ACCOMPLISH THIS BY
REQUIRING THAT ANY TIME A WHILE
IS SOLD THE PURCHASER PUTS UP A
BONTA ACUITY. THE ACTUAL COST OF
PLUGGING AND ABANDONING THE WELL
NOT A SMALL FRACTION OF THAT
COST. IN THE END AB ELEVEN SIXTY
SEVEN IS ABOUT BOTH PUBLIC
HEALTH AND FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S ESSENTIAL
THAT WE TAKE ACTION TO LIMIT
THE- ENORMOUS FINANCIAL RISK TO
THE STATE REPRESENTED BY THE
GROWING POOL OF ORPHAN WELLS
THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO NEED TO
PAY. TO CLEAN UP THEN THAT
SOMEONE AS US AND THE TAXPAYERS
. HERE TO TESTIFY. I AND ANY
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT ON THE BILL
IS DAN JACOBSON SENIOR ADVISER
AT ENVIRONMENTAL CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA. AND LINDA ESCALANTE
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT OF
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT
THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL. I THANK YOU YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES EACH MAY PROCEED.
GOOD MORNING- CHAIR AND SENATORS
SO GREAT TO SEE YOU TODAY. AND
LINDA ESCALANTE DEPUTY DIRECTOR
OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR ENERGY
C. AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF
ELEVEN. SIXTY SEVEN AND I WANNA
THANK A- ASSEMBLY MEMBER. I'VE
GOT A YEAR FOR HER LEADERSHIP ON
THIS AND OF COURSE THE EVIDENCE
IS OVERWHELMING THAT CALIFORNIA
NEEDS AB ELEVEN SIXTY SEVEN. THE
ORPHAN WELL PREVENTION ACT. TO
LIMIT THE GROWING FINANCIAL
PRESS FORM ORPHAN WELLS. THERE
IS CURRENTLY AN EXTREME
SHORTFALL IN INDUSTRY BOND FUNDS
AVAILABLE TO PROPERLY PLUGGED
AND ABANDONED THEM WHILE THE
AVERAGE COST TO PLUG AND ABANDON
A WELL AS AROUND SIXTY EIGHT
THOUSAND. THE AVERAGE AVAILABLE
BOND AVAILABLE PER WELL AS
AROUND ONE THOUSAND. DOLLARS A
RECENT STUDY SUGGESTS THAT THE
TOTAL COST TO PLUG AND ABANDON
ALL WELLS IN THE STATE. THE TOP
OUT. AT TWENTY ONE BILLION
DOLLARS WHICH IS A NUMBER THAT
FAR OUTPACES ANTICIPATED OIL
INDUSTRY REVENUES. THE REST OF
THE STATE HAS MADE GREATER BY
THE FACT THAT TITLE AND
MARGINALLY PRODUCING WELLS ARE
BEING SOLD AT INCREASING PACE TO
SMALLER AND LESS SOLVING
OPERATORS. INCREASING THE RISK
THAT THESE OPERATORS WILL GO
BANKRUPT AND LEAVE THE STATE.
THE STATE'S TAXPAYERS HOLDING
THE BAG FOR THE CLEAN UP BILL.
WHICH ALREADY HAPPENED IN THE
SASTRAS I THINK ONE ISLAND
OPERATOR BANKRUPTCY WHICH HAS
COST TAXPAYERS TWENTY SEVEN
MILLION DOLLARS SO FAR. IN
RESPONSE THE WRINKLE ON. THE
LEGISLATURE TOOK THE SENSIBLE
APPROACH A FEW YEARS AGO
REQUIRING THAT UPON TRANSFER OF
A WELL TO ANOTHER OPERATOR UPON
MUST BE POSTED FOR THE FULL
ESTIMATED ACTUAL COST. OF
PLUGGING AND ABANDONMENT NOT THE
MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT CURRENTLY
REQUIRED. HOWEVER THE EARLIER
LEGISLATION ONLY APPLY TO
OFFSHORE WELLS. AB ELEVEN SIXTY
SEVEN WOULD TAKE THE SAME
APPROACH FOR ALL WELLS IN THE
STATE INCLUDING ONSHORE WELLS
WHICH IN RECENT. RECENT RESEARCH
SHOWS. ARE ALSO AT RISK OF OR
FANNING DUE TO STEADY FLOW OF
TRANSFERS OF IDLE AND MARGINAL
WELLS. JUST LAST FALL THEIR
ENERGY AND EXXON MOBIL
PARTNERSHIP SOLD OFF TWENTY
THREE THOUSAND WELLS. TUNIS
ASKED ASSET MANAGEMENT GROUP A
LARGE ARE WORSENING I'M I THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS DAN
JACOBSON SENIOR ADVISER TO
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA. I JUST
WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE POINTS
THAT THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER MADE
AND THAT LINDA ESCALANTE MADE.
THIS STATE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY
NOW TO BE ABLE TO. PASS THIS
BILL AND TO PUT ANOTHER TOOL IN
THE TOOL BELT TO HELP PREVENT
ENVIRONMENTAL PUBLIC HEALTH.
IMPACTS THAT ARE CAUSED WHEN
THESE WELLS ARE ABANDONED. THERE
ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
THESE WELLS ALL OVER THE STATE
THEY ARE OFTEN TIMES ABANDONED
AND WHEN THEY ARE THEY CAN
RELEASE DANGEROUS GASES THAT
BOTH IMPACT PUBLIC HEALTH. IN
MAKE OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT
CLIMATE CHANGE EVEN WORSE THIS
IS A TOOL IN THE TOOL BELT A
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WE
REALLY ENCOURAGE AN AYE VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU-
ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WHO LIKE
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL-
NEED TO WITNESSES- PLEASE LIMIT
YOUR COMMENT YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE. THANK YOU MR TERM ARE
FENSTER MAKER FOR EARTHJUSTICE
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. MELISSA
ROMERO CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU CRISTINA
SURRENDER THE CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTS
AND NO ONE ELSE CUED UP A WE
WILL HEAR FROM ANY- WOULD LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION WE HAVE
LEAD WITNESSES AN UPTICK. YOU
HAVE TO YOU. OKAY YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES EACH. PROCEED WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS PAUL DEAR-
REPRESENTING THE WESTERN STATES
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION. WE
BELIEVE AS INDICATED IN THE-
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS WHICH
COMPLIMENTS TO COMMITTEE STAFF
ON ON A VERY WHOLESOME ANALYSIS.
ON PAGE SEVEN. THERE IS A
PARAGRAPH ON IS THIS A
DUPLICATION OF WHAT THE-
EXISTING AUTHORITY CALLAGY I'M
CURRENTLY HAS WE BELIEVE IT'S OF
REDUNDANT. CAL JAM IS CURRENTLY-
CON CONTACTING- STATE OPERATORS.
AND THEY HAVE TO UNDER EXISTING
LAW AB TEN FIFTY SEVEN THAT WE
ADOPTED IN TWO THOUSAND
NINETEEN. THEY HAVE TO COME UP
WITH AN AMOUNT. OF DEBT FULLY
SECURES THE STATE WHETHER IT'S A
BONDING- FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT OR
OTHER FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. AND
IN AND IN THE US WE OPPOSE THE
BILL TODAY WE'RE VERY WORKING
VERY CLOSELY WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE AND THE SPONSORS ON THE
BILL AND HOPE TO HAVE RESOLUTION
AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR
MEMBERS SEAN WALLENSTEIN FROM
THE CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION
OF THE BILL- CAL JAM ENGAGING
IN- PRIVATE ACQUISITION ESCROW
PROCESSES- WHICH HAVE VERY TIGHT
LEGAL TIMELINES COULD PUT
ACQUISITIONS AT RISK. AND YOU
DON'T WANT THAT. ARE CURRENTLY
ALL ACQUISITIONS OF OIL WELLS-
ARE FORCED INTO THE STATE'S IDLE
WELL MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND EVERY
WELL HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR
UNDER CURRENT FUNDING
ESTABLISHED AS THE PREVIOUS
WITNESS NOTED UNDER AB TEN FIFTY
SEVEN FROM TWENTY NINETEEN THERE
WAS NOTHING MISSING IN AB TEN
FIFTY SEVEN. AND HERE'S WHY YOU
DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE
ACQUISITION PROCESS OR EVEN
CREATE THE POSSIBILITY OF
SLOWING DOWN OIL COMPANIES FROM
BUYING LEGACY OIL ASSETS. IN
TWENTY TWENTY TWO CAL JIM
GRANTED US OUR PRODUCER SIX
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED- PERMITS.
UP TO PLUG ABANDONED OIL WELLS
ARE IDLE WELLS- CAL JIM PLUGGED
ZERO. AND STATE LANDS PLUGGED
SEVEN WE ARE WAY BETTER AND WAY
FASTER. AT PLUGGING OIL WELLS IN
THE STATE IS USING OUR OWN MONEY
AND WE DO IT ACCORDING TO CODE.
THE EVERY TIME- I WOULD LIKE TO
POINT OUT TO THAT IN THE
ANALYSIS IT'S POINTED OUT THAT
THERE ARE FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND
APPROXIMATELY IDLE WELLS. AT THE
PACE OF LAST YEAR SIXTY FIVE
HUNDRED PERMITS TO PLUG WELLS
WILL BE DONE IN SEVEN OR EIGHT
YEARS PLUGGING EVERY IDOL WELL
THAT WE KNOW OF IN THE STATE
USING OUR MONEY- AND THIS ISN'T
JUST AN IDEA BUT IT'S REALITY
BECAUSE ONE OF OUR FAMILY OWNED
OPERATORS IN VENTURA PURCHASED
C. R. C. ASSETS. AND THEY WENT
ABOUT PUTTING EVERYONE OF THOSE
WELLS IN THE IDYLLWILD
MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THEY WENT
ABOUT PLUGGING. A HUNDRED WELLS
MORE THAN WHAT THE STATE
REQUIRED. OKAY SO IT'S NEEDS TO
BE MADE CLEAR. ALSO THAT I KEEP
HEARING THIS COMMENT THAT THE
STATE IS AT RISK THANK YOU FOR
YOU COULD START WRAPPING WE JUST
MAKE THIS FINAL COMMENT THE
STATE IS NOT AT RISK THE STATE
HAS NEVER ONE TIME TO TAXPAYERS
IN CALIFORNIA HAVE NEVER ONCE.
PAID TO REMEDIATE AN ON SHORE
WELL THANK YOU WE HAVE DONE IT
EVERY TIME IT. THANK YOU- THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY WE HAVE
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT
WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ME TO
OPPOSITION. SAYING NO ONE IN THE
ROOM QUEUING UP- MODERATOR- WILL
OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES WILL
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE- MODERATE IF YOU COULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF AB ELEVEN SIXTY
SEVEN I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- AS HE INDICATED FOR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO. A. B.
ONE ONE SIX SEVEN PLEASE PRESS
ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO. ONE FELL
BY ZERO POINT THIRTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. FOR GOOD MORNING CATHY
SCHAEFER ON BEHALF OF THE SAN
FERNANDO VALLEY IN LOS ANGELES
AFTER THE FINAL REALITY IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE TWENTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. JOHN
POTTER CLEANER THREE KIDS THAT
ORGANS SUPPORT OF AB. ELEVEN
SIXTY SEVEN. YOUR OPEN LINE
ELEVEN. I WOULD ON MY OWN BEHALF
OF BREAST CANCER PREVENTION
PARTNERS. WORK PLEASE GO AHEAD
LINE TWENTY THREE. THANK YOU
CLEAN- FOUR KIDS .ORG STRONGLY
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND LET'S
GIVE ONE MORE REMINDER ONE FELL
BY ZERO PRINT SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO AB ONE ONE SIX
SEVEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD LINE
TWENTY ONE. LABOR NETWORK FOR
SUSTAINABILITY IN SUPPORT. AND
MISTER CHAIR WE CLEARED THE
QUEUE. YOU MISTER MODERATOR- SO
THANK YOU TO ALL WHO TESTIFIED
WILL BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK
TO OUR MEMBERS ANYONE HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I SEASON
STERN CENTER SIRED TO ENSURE
QUITE. A FAMOUS CHAIR. I WANT TO
THANK THE SEVEN MEMBER FOR BRING
A BILL FORWARD- RESPOND A FEW
ISSUES RAISED. BY THE OPPOSITION
THAT CONFUSE ME- I THINK WAS
MENTIONED THAT- THERE'S NEVER
BEEN ANY TAXPAYER DOLLAR EVER
EXPANDED. ON WELL THAT WAS
ABANDONED OR LEFT FOR THE
COMMUNITY BUT I'M THINKING OF-
NUMEROUS EXAMPLES IN LOS ANGELES
WHERE- TAKE EVEN LIKE AT A LOCAL
HIGH SCHOOL. A TWENTY MILLION
DOLLAR BOND HAD TO BE PASSED BY
TAXPAYERS TO COVER THE COST OF
CLOSING- WELL LITERALLY ON THE
SITE OF A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL- OF
ONGOING- NOT JUST. THE COST TO
CLEAN UP BUT THE ONGOING BATTLES
OVER REMEDIATION THAT EVERY TIME
A WELL AS PLUGGED AND ABANDONED
THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WE
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE CODE I'M
THINKING OF. A SPILL WE JUST HAD
OFF PEAK GO BEHIND THE- YOU KNOW
A DAY CARE CENTER AND A PLACE OF
WORSHIP AND THE WHOLE ALLEY WAS
FILLED WITH OIL- I DON'T KNOW
YEAR AGO SO I I'M- I'M I'M A
LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS SORT
OF. THE PRESUMPTION OF
PERFECTION OF HOW THINGS ARE
GOING AT PRESENT I THINK THEY'RE
COMPLETELY UNSUSTAINABLE AND- I
THINK THAT THE FAX BACK THAT UP
BUT- YOU KNOW EVERY YEAR THESE
BILLS GET BROUGHT UP AND WE
ALWAYS GET WATER DOWN EVEN TEN
FIFTY SEVEN THE BONDING
REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ENDED UP
GETTING THROUGH THEIR- ARE
MINIMAL- COMPARED TO THE COSTS.
FORGET WITH THE CAP IS THINK
IT'S THREE MILLION DOLLARS OR
SO- TO DOING THESE PROJECTS THAT
OFTEN CAN COST TWENTY. SO WE
MIGHT AS THE MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS IN THE BILL BUT TO
ASSUME HERE THAT CAL JIM JUST
GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND DO
THEIR JOB I THINK. EVEN TO THE
OPPOSITION'S POINT CAL JIM
DOESN'T ALWAYS DO THEIR JOB. I
THINK THE LEGISLATURE DOES HAVE
TO STEP IN SOMETIMES- I THINK
THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE
TIMES. I'D LOVE TO BE AT IS A CO
AUTHOR TO YOU'RE LEGISLATION
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AND- AND HELP
YOU WITH THIS ISSUE- BUT I DO
THINK. THIS TRANSACTION POINTS
AN IMPORTANT POINT. BUT I HOPE
THAT WE CONTINUE IN THAT THE
COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTING THE
LEGISLATION CONTINUES TO LOOK
AT. THE LARGER STRUCTURAL
PROBLEM IN IN CALIFORNIA IDLE
AND ABANDONED WELLS WHICH IS.
BACK IN NINETEEN NINETY SIX
ASSEMBLY MEMBER JIM COSTA PASSED
AN AMENDMENT THAT SAID THAT IF
YOU OWN AN ASSET BEFORE NINETEEN
NINETY SIX YOU'RE NO LONGER ON
THE HOOK. ALL THAT ALL THAT
OBLIGATION THAT GOES BACK TO THE
SUPER MAJORS. FOR ALL THE
BILLIONS THEY TOOK AT A
CALIFORNIA IS NOW CUT OFF. IN
STATUTE. IT IS A BIG GAP. AND I
DON'T SEE ANY SUPER MAJORS
COMING IN TO CLEAN UP THE SITES.
THESE AND TEND UP BEING IT TEND
TO BE MOM AND POP AND SMALLER
AND- I JUST DON'T KNOW IF
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE
CAPITAL WHERE WITH ALL TO DO IT.
IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE
PROPOSAL TO BRING SOME OF THAT
MAJOR CAPITAL TO THE TABLE TO
TAKE ON THIS JOB. I DO AGREE
THERE'S COMPETENCIES IN THE OIL
SECTOR TO GET THIS WORK DONE I
I'M I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT I
ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
POTENTIAL THERE. BUT- BUT TO
SIMPLY ASSUME THAT LIKE WHAT THE
BUSINESS AS USUAL IS GONNA WORK
IT TO ME IS JUST BELIED BY THE
FACT SO. I HOPE WE CAN START TO
LOOK TO. WHO REALLY OWN THOSE
WELLS AND WHO REALLY MADE THE
MONEY. AND IF WE CAN GET THEM TO
THE TABLE AND THIS IS CHEVRON
EXXON. YOU KNOW ALL THE BIGS.
WHO TOOK THOUGH WELL YOU KNOW
TOOK THE WELLS YOU KNOW PUNCH
THE HOLES IN THE GROUND BACK IN
THE DAY IN LA. THEIR OWNER
COMMUNITIES BUT THEN TOOK WHAT
THEY WANTED AND LEFT AND SOLD
THEM OFF. AND BECAUSE THE
LEGISLATURE ITSELF CUT OFF THE
LIABILITY NINETEEN NINETY SIX
IT'S PART OF ANOTHER DEALER
UNDERGROUND STORAGE. THAT IS AN
OUTDATED DEAL. WE NEED TO RE
LOOK AT THAT THE SO. I WANT THIS
BILL TO PASS AND BE. LED TO MAKE
A MOTION FOR BUT I HOPE THAT WE
CAN. LOOK AT THIS BIGGER
STRUCTURAL ISSUE THAT- THAT WE
DON'T HAVE. THE CAPITAL WE NEED
AT THE TABLE SO. WOULD YOU LOVE
TO MAKE MOTION ARE YOU MAKING
MAKING MOTION OKAY. THANK YOU
BYE CENTER STERN CENTER
SATURDAY. THANK YOU. SO I RELOAD
A QUESTION ABOUT. THAT SO IN
THIS BILL. BASED A PERSON AT ONE
TO. CHOIR THE RIGHT TO OPERATE.
THE WELL. WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN.
THE MONEY THAT WILL COST TO
REMEDIATE IT IN THE FUTURE
CORRECT. OKAY SO WHY WOULD THAT
PERSON ACQUIRED. INTO INVECTIVE
THEY DIDN'T ACQUIRE IT IT'S JUST
STAYS UNDER THE SAME. SAME THING
THAT IT'S DOING NOW. WHICH IS.
WELL I THINK UNDER DEBATE AS FAR
AS- OF HOW EFFECTIVE THAT IS.
SENATOR THE- WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT THE VERY REASON THAT
YOU'RE ASKING WHY WOULD SOMEBODY
ACQUIRED IF THEY'RE NOT
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO IT IS
EXACTLY THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO RAISE. WHY WOULD
SOMEONE. WANT TO BUY A PIECE OF
LAND THAT THEY'RE NOT IT.
ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR
NO I DIDN'T SAY THAT I SAID THE
COST. FOR A WIRING IT CURRENT
HAVE THEM PUT IN. AN EXTRA
TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS OF A
BOND. THAT WOULD THAT WOULD
DISSUADE THEM FROM EVEN
PURCHASING IT. BECAUSE THEY'RE
NOT GOING TO DO THE EXTRA TWENTY
MILLION DOLLARS AT THAT POINT.
WHEN THERE'S A PROCESS THAT IF
THEY JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. IT
WILL REMEDIATE UNDER THE CURRENT
PROCESS WHICH. WHETHER IT'S
EFFECTIVE OR NOT BUT IT SOUNDS
LIKE IT'S BEEN BEING- DONE
ALREADY. THERE'S SO THAT'S IT'S
NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PART THAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID ITS THE
COST AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO
DISSUADE THEM FROM BUYING IN THE
FIRST PLACE. THEN IT JUST
DEFAULTS BACK TO WHAT IT WAS
BEFORE SO THERE'S NO INCENTIVE
FOR THEM TO GO BUY. AN OIL WELL
ESPECIALLY HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
WELL ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE
INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO PURCHASE
AN OIL WELL. IS THAT THEY DON'T
HAVE TO PAY FOR THE COST SO THEN
WHO PAYS FOR THE COST TO KNOW
THE INCENTIVE IS THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO USE THAT OIL WELL UNTIL
IT'S NO GOOD AND THEN THEY'RE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO. PUT IT INTO
THE REMEDIATION- SYSTEM. TO HAVE
IT CAPPED DEBTS CURRENTLY
AVAILABLE. THERE AND THEN THEY
DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE TWENTY
MILLION DOLLARS BOND. SO THEY
DON'T DO IN THE FIRST PLACE
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY
THAT TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS BOND
THEY'RE GONNA USE IT UNTIL IT'S-
DONE. AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO
TURN IT OVER TO THE REMEDIATION
PROGRAM. NOT FOR TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION
EXACTLY. THAT WAS THE QUESTION
WAS. IS THAT WHAT IT DOES IT
DOES DOES IT MAKE THEM. DOES IT
MAKE THEM BY OUR DEBT IT DOES IT
IF IT IF IT MAKES THEM BY THE-
THE BOND FOR TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.
LET US GUARD TECH WOULD YOU LIKE
TO ADD TO THAT. YEAH I'M NOT A
TECHNICAL. EXPERT HERE BUT I
WOULD. ASK YOU TO READ THROUGH
THE ANALYSIS WHICH I THINK DOES
A GOOD JOB OF. LOOKING AT THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'VE
DONE HERE IN THE PAST AND THEN
EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL DOES
WHICH SAYS. AND I THINK YOU'RE
GETTING TO AN IMPORTANT POINT
HERE WHICH IS THAT. IF A COMPANY
OWNED AND OPERATED NOW WE'RE
GOING TO ASSUME THAT AS OUR
PRIOR WITNESSES ARE SUCH THAT
THEY'RE DOING IT TO A STANDARD.
THAT CAN BE MET WHEN THAT. OUR
PARTY IS BEING SOLD THEN WHAT
STANDARD DO THEY HAVE TO MEET I
DON'T THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION
IT'S JUST MAKING SURE. AS THAT
PROPERTY GETS SOLD WHAT ARE WE
GONNA BE ABLE TO DO TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY CAN MEET THAT
STANDARD. IF THE NEW OWNER
DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE
ABLE TO DO IT THEN THE STATE
GETS STUCK WITH THAT. A BUT IT
GOES TO EVERY MEDIATION PROCESS
THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM. THE
OTHER GENTLEMAN. YEAH DEFAULTS
TO THAT. SO IT SO BUT BUT WHAT
I'M SAYING IS THEY WOULD BUY IN
THE FIRST PLACE. I HAVE TO BUY A
HOUSE THAT COMES WITH THE TWENTY
BILLION R. TWENTY MILLION DOLLAR
EXTRA PRICE TAG. FOR SOME KIND
OF REMEDIATION OF IT. IN THE
FUTURE I WOULDN'T BUY IT. THAT'S
WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S MY
POINT IS. WITH THAT SO IT
ACTUALLY BECOMES A DISINCENTIVE.
FOR SOMEBODY TO BUY THAT WELL.
AND IT WINDS UP IN THE SAME
PLACE IT IS NOW. SO ANYWAY THAT
WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS THE POINT
I WAS TRYING TO MAKE- SORRY THAT
IT WAS CONFUSING- BUT IT DOESN'T
SEEM LIKE IT'S WITH.
INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE WOULD YOU
LIKE TO RESPOND OR- WITH THAT
MORE OF A STATEMENT AND LOCAL
PART OF IT WAS A STATEMENT SHE
ALREADY RESPONDED TO THE FOR.
THE FRONT PART. TRANSACTION I'M
JUST YES THAT'S WHAT THE
MECHANISM ONCE SO ARE YOU. WOULD
DO ARE YOU DID YOU WANT TO KNOW
ARE YOU DONE ARE YOU WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SENATE ALWAYS HAS COME
UP OR ALL DONE I'LL BE DONE FOR
NOW THANK YOU. THANK YOU SENATE
OUT. LOVES IN THE WOMAN GOOD TO
SEE YOU. SO FIRST OFF I WANTED
TO SAY THAT- NOTE CENTER STERN
BROUGHT SOME POINTS AND- SO I
SAID ON SUB TO WHERE WE GO TO
COLLEGE AND EVERY YEAR. AND
WHAT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME IS THAT
THE ORPHAN WELLS THAT. WAY BACK
WHEN WERE WERE JUST ABANDONED-
THERE'S A PROCESS. TO PLUG THOSE
WELLS. AND WE'VE DELEGATED OUT
TO CAL CHEN AND THE PRODUCERS
THAT ARE HERE NOW PRODUCING PUT
INTO A POT OF MONEY TO. TO CAP
THOSE WELLS SO WE NEED TO GET
THAT SQUARE THE BIRD THE
EXISTING PRODUCERS IN CALIFORNIA
ARE PAYING FOR ORPHAN WELLS THAT
THEY WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR. I
THINK THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE
ALL FEEL. AND THE REASON THAT
YOU PROBABLY BROUGHT THIS BILL
IS THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING THE
WAY WE WANT TO HAPPEN IS NOT
GETTING DONE. IN THE FASHION OR
TIME BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE
OPPOSITION- BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD
POINTS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY
DOING. CAL CHEN EVEN THOUGH THE-
THERE IS A FEE PUT ON PRODUCERS
IN CALIFORNIA TO FUN CAL GIN.
AND EVERY YEAR AND SUB TO. WE
ARE HIT RESET ON IT TOGETHER.
CENTER STERN AYE WE KEEP PUTTING
MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PROGRAM
THAT THE- INDUSTRY IS PAYING FOR
AND ARE NOT PRODUCED THEY'RE NOT
GETTING THE JOB DONE. SO WHO'S
FAILING HERE IS CAL JIM IT IS
NOT THE- PRODUCERS WHO ARE
FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS BY THE
WAY AND THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE
FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE THEY-
THESE ARE WELLS THAT WERE.
RATHER IF YOU'RE JOURNAL WELL
TODAY YOU HAVE TO BE BONDED TO
YOU HAVE A CLOSED YOU HAVE A-
DECOMMISSIONING I WILL SAY-
PROCESS. SO I'M NOT GONNA
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY THE
REALLY FOCUS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
IS CAL JIM TO GET THE JOB DONE
THE MONEY'S THERE. AND THEY'RE
NOT DOING IT. TO THE TO THE
OPPOSITION'S POINT THEY'RE DOING
IT. AT A HIGHWAY HIGHER RATE IN
CALGENE IS ACTUALLY DOING IT AND
I THINK THAT'S- THE FRUSTRATION
THAT WE SEE THESE BILLS COME FOR
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING
DONE. IN YOUR COMMUNITIES. WHEN
YOU FOLKS- KALENJIN AND MAKE
THEM. GO OUT AND ACTUALLY GET
THESE DONE ALONG WITH THE
INDUSTRY WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING
THE JOB SO. THEY'RE PAYING FOR.
THIS IS NOT TAXPAYER FUNDED THIS
IS INDUSTRY WHO IT DIDN'T CAUSE
THE PROBLEM THE ORIGINAL
PROBLEM. IF YOU'RE A WEEK DOES
SO THAT'S WHY THEY DID THE BILL
WAY BACK WHEN WAS A SAY HEY.
YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE BUT WE
CAME IN AS THE STATE AND SAID TO
THE PRODUCERS WE WANT THESE
WELLS PLUG. EVEN THOUGH YOU
WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE FORM. AND
THEY'RE DOING THAT SO THAT'S THE
POINT HERE I THINK WE'RE
CONFUSED. ON WHO'S SUPPOSED TO
DO WHAT. THE REAL ISSUE AND I
AND I KNOW WHY YOU'RE BRINGING
THE BILL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
GETTING IT DONE. CALGENE IS THE
PROBLEM. THANK YOU SENATOR
DOLLARS- CENTER PUT IT THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN THANK THE AUTHOR
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SORT OF
COME BACK TO THE- THE PRIMARY
FOCUS HERE AND THAT IS. HIS
ASSETS ARE CHOIR FOR OPERATIONAL
INTERESTS. THEY HAVE SOME VALUE
BUT IN CALIFORNIA THERE
DEPRECIATING ASSETS. AND THE
LEGISLATION IS REALLY ABOUT
MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S
ADEQUATE SURE TO COVER THE
COSTS. EVEN THE CAPPING COST IS
INSIGNIFICANT TO THE- ACTUAL
REMEDIATION COSTS AND THAT'S-
THAT'S THE REAL PROTECTIVE
INTEREST AT THE STATE HOUSE.
HERE VOTE FOR ENVIRONMENT PUBLIC
HEALTH. AND BEYOND THAT IS THE
MOST COST. INTENSIVE AS MANY OF
US KNOW MOST OF THE TIME. AND SO
THAT'S WHAT THE LEGISLATION IS
ABOUT. IS THE ADEQUACY OF THE
SURETIES. BILITY TO IMPOSE THAT
UPON SOMEONE WHO IS ACQUIRING AN
ASSET FOR ITS OPERATIONAL
BENEFITS. THIS APPRECIATING
ASSET BUT YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU
GO INTO IT BUT YOU KNOW THAT THE
DOWNSIDE. ON THE REMEDIATION IS
POTENTIALLY HUGE LIABILITY. AND
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S
NOT ON THE BACKS OF THE
TAXPAYERS OF CALIFORNIA. BUT
PROPERLY ON THE PEOPLE WHO MADE
THE INVESTMENT. FOR THOSE
REASONS I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
BILL. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN.
THANK ANY OTHER MEMBERS OKAY
SINGING ON I'VE JUST A COMMENT
HERE. I FIRST I APPRECIATED THE
DEBATE- THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY
IDLE OIL AND GAS WELLS IN THE
STATE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THEM.
I'M MANY WHICH HAVE BEEN IDLE
FOR OVER FIFTEEN YEARS. DESPITE
THE PRICE OF OIL REACHING OVER A
HUNDRED DOLLARS PER BARREL I'M
MULTIPLE TIMES SINCE TWO
THOUSAND FIVE. NOW THE QUESTION
IS WHO ENDS UP PAYING FOR THIS
AND I APPRECIATE THE LIVELY
DISCUSSION. AFTER MADE THE POINT
HERE IS THAT THE TAXPAYER SHOULD
NOT BE ON THE HOOK. AND THE
STATE HAS LIMITED FUNDS TO TRY
TO CAP THESE THEMSELVES SO. I DO
HAVE SOME CONCERNS SOME
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS WERE RAISED
BY INDUSTRY. OPPORTUNITY ONE OF
THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD IN
PARTICULAR WAS JUST THE
POTENTIAL LACK OF BONDING
CAPACITY FOR- THIS OP AT THE
SAME TIME I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING
HARD ON THAT. ISSUE WITH ALL
STAKEHOLDERS I KNOW YOU CONTINUE
TO DO THAT. ON AT THE END OF THE
DAY THE QUESTION IS SHOULD THE
TAXPAYER PAY FOR THIS OR SHOULD
IT BE SOMEONE ELSE AND- I
BELIEVE IT HAS TO BE OPERATORS
AT THE END OF THE DAY SO I. KNOW
THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE
WORKING HARD ON THIS- BUT I
SUPPORT THIS BILL AS IS- TO BE A
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS AND SO-
LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTINUED
DISCUSSIONS- WITH OUR STAFFING
WITH OPPONENTS AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR BILL. THANK WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE THANK YOU SENATOR ANNA
AND I ALSO TO APPRECIATE THE
DISCUSSION IN THE CONVERSATION
TO. ONE MAKE AGENCIES AND
DEPARTMENTS RESPONSIBLE TO THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA I THINK WE
SEE THAT. THROUGHOUT A VARIETY
OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE
STATE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR
OPPOSITION WE'VE BEEN MEETING
WITH THEM QUITE A BIT AND ALSO
WANT TO THANK THE RESPONSIBLE
OPERATORS. WHO DO THE JOB NEEDED
TO. ENSURE THAT THE OIL WELLS
ARE CAPPED. AND THAT COMMUNITIES
ARE SAFE FROM ENVIRONMENTAL
HARMS. UNFORTUNATELY THE
EXISTING FUNDS CURRENTLY
AVAILABLE TO CAL JAM SIMPLY.
JUST DON'T DO THE WORK NECESSARY
THAT- IS NEEDED WHEN YOU LOOK AT
CAL JAM AND YOU LOOK AT. THE
CITY OF LOS ANGELES SPECIFICALLY
OR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES I
WOULD SHARE THAT. OF MY SENATORS
OUT IN. OUR SENATORS OUT IN MORE
OF THE COASTAL REGIONS YOU CAN
SEE ALL THOSE OIL WELLS HAVE
BEEN PLUGGED. INNER CITY OF LOS
ANGELES ECHO PARK LINCOLN
HEIGHTS AND REMAINING
COMMUNITIES THAT I REPRESENT.
THOSE OIL WELLS CONTINUED TO
THOSE IDYLLWILD CONTINUED TO BE
ON CAPT. WE HAVE THE HIGHEST
RATES OF. CANCER ASTHMA AND
OTHER- ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE
NEED SOLUTIONS AND WE NEED THEM
FAST. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S NOT AT THE COST OF
TAXPAYER DOLLARS SO. APPRECIATE
THE CONVERSATION OF THE CONTINUE
DISCUSSION RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
AN AYE VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MANY WOMEN CARILLO APPRECIATE
YOUR PRESENTATION- WE HAVE A
MOTION FROM SENATOR STERN. THE
MOTION. IS TO PASS
APPROPRIATIONS- SYSTEM PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. CENTERS MEN I SAY
ARE. SAY ARE NO NO ALLEN. ALLEN
I DALY. DALLY NO EGGMAN. GROWTH
HER TADO. MCGUIRE LIMÓN. VIDEA
VIDEA I STERN RIGHT STERN I. I
VOTE COUNT ON THAT IS FOR TWO
AND LEAVE IT OPEN ON CALL THANK
YOU ASSEMBLY MEMBER. OKAY THAT
BRINGS US TO OUR FINAL TWO BILLS
OF THE DAY. ASSEMBLY WOMAN
FRIEDMAN HAS BEEN WAITING
PATIENTLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR PATIENCE- OUR FIRST OF
TWO BILLS FROM YOU IS- FILE ITEM
SEVEN AB FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO AND
YOU CAN PROCEED ONE READY. THANK
YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I AM
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE
ANALYSIS. AB FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO
IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE LOW
HANGING FRUIT OF WATER
CONSERVATION THIS WOULD PROHIBIT
THE USE OF DRINKING WATER FOR
THE IRRIGATION OF NONFUNCTIONAL
TURF AND TO BE CLEAR THAT'S NON
FUNCTIONAL MEANING. NOT STOPPING
THE KIDS PLAYING ON NOT
SOMETHING YOU'RE HAVING A
WEDDING ON NOT SOMETHING THAT'S
USED BY THE PUBLIC FOR ITS
PROPERTIES IS BEING TURF BUT
RATHER FOR NON FUNCTIONAL
DECORATIVE TURF LOCATED ON
COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
INSTITUTIONAL PROPERTIES AND
LANDS ADMINISTERED BY HOAS IN
STAGES BETWEEN JANUARY FIRST
TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN AND JANUARY
FIRST TWENTY THIRTY ONE SO THIS
IS NOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THIS
IS NOT IN FRONT OF A MULTI
FAMILY BUILDING OR IN FRONT OF
YOUR HOUSE. THIS IS THINGS LIKE
GRASS MEDIAN STRIPS LIKE THE
SIDES OF HILLS THAT NO ONE EVER
GOES ON- THINGS LIKE THAT. SO
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WE'RE
CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO FIND WAYS TO
REDUCE ITS WATER USAGE. WE HAVE
TO REMEMBER THAT A LARGE PORTION
OF OUR DRINKING WATER IS USED TO
LANDSCAPE TO WATER URBAN
LANDSCAPES. IN A YEAR WITHOUT
DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS ROUGHLY
HALF OF ALL PUBLICLY SUPPLIED
WATER IS USED OUTDOORS.
PRIMARILY FOR LANDSCAPE
IRRIGATION. IN MUCH OF THE STATE
TURFGRASS BECAME A STAPLE OF
URBAN DEVELOPMENT IN BOTH
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
APPLICATIONS. AS WELL AS IN
PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS INCLUDING
IN MY OWN CITY WHERE WE HAVE
GRASS MEDIAN STRIPS ALL OVER THE
PLACE THAT NO ONE EVER SETS FOOT
ON. IN THE YEAR WITHOUT DROUGHT
RESTRICTIONS. OF THE IN A STUDY
PUBLISHED IN TWO THOUSAND FIVE
IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT CALIFORNIA
HAD APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION ACRES OF
TURF GRASS. NEARLY ALL OF THIS
TURF REQUIRES IRRIGATION TO
SURVIVE. AND NEARLY ALL THE-
GEISHAS WITH TREATED DRINKING
WATER. THE USER POTABLE WATER TO
IRRIGATE NONFUNCTIONAL TURF IN
COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AND
INSTITUTIONAL LOCATIONS.
INCLUDING LANCE ADMINISTERED BY
H. IS BECAUSE- PROHIBITED.
THROUGH JUNE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
UNDER REGULATIONS ADOPTED BY THE
STATE WATER BOARD. IN JUNE OF
TWENTY TWENTY TWO AND RENEW THIS
MONTH SO WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN
LIVING UNDER THIS FOR A YEAR. AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO IS AN
EXTENSION OF PAST AND CURRENT
STATE POLICIES TO REDUCE
UNNECESSARY WATER CONSUMPTION
URBAN LANDSCAPES. THIS WILL HELP
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES AND
COMMUNITIES SAVE BOTH WATER AND
MONEY. AND TO HELP US TRANSITION
TO SUSTAINABLE ALTERNATIVES THAT
CAN KEEP LANDSCAPES BEAUTIFUL.
NOW WE TOOK RECENT AMENDMENTS
THAT DEALT WITH CONCERNS RAISED
BY AQUILES C. MUA AND OTHER
WATER AGENCIES AND NOW AWKWARD
C. MUA THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA
CITIES. REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY
CITY OF ROSEVILLE AND THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
ARE ALL NEUTRAL ON THIS BILL. AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO IS
COSPONSORED BY NRDC HEAL THE BAY
AND THE METROPOLITAN WATER
DISTRICT OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
IT IS SUPPORTED BY EASTERN
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WEST
BASIN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT
SANTA CLARITA VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT SO NO MY COUNTY WATER
AGENCY. CALIFORNIA WATER SERVICE
AND THE CITY CITY OF THOUSAND
OAKS. SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO IS ED- ST
WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL AND J. JEFFERSON
WITH THE METROPOLITAN WATER
DISTRICT OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
. THANK YOU ARE YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN AND I WANT TO THANK.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN FOR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS. ON THIS
BILL. BUT WE KNOW THAT- DROUGHT
CONDITIONS HAVE LISTED LISTED IN
MUCH OF THE STATE- BUT I THINK
IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE
SITUATION WITH LAKE MEAD AND THE
COLORADO RIVER REMAINS-
CRITICALLY. CRITICALLY LOW AND-
THE STATE IS ENTERING WAS SORT
SHORTLY ENTER INTO. A VERY
CRITICAL NEGOTIATIONS OVER
AVAILABILITY OF WATER IN THE
COLORADO THAT- IN VERY. HIGH
LIKELIHOOD THAT THERE WILL BE
LESS WATER AVAILABLE TO US IN
THE FUTURE. OUR NEIGHBORS IN
NEVADA HAVE ALREADY APPROVED A
BAN ON YOUR GEISHA NON
FUNCTIONAL TURF. FOR ALL BUT
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND IT'S
EFFECTIVE IN TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN
. AS WITH NEVADA THIS BILL DOES
NOT APPLY TO TURF AT SINGLE
FAMILY HOMES NOR DOES IT APPLY
TO TURF. THIS IS YOUR GATED WITH
RECYCLED WATER- THE OWNERS OF
NON FUNCTIONAL TURF ARE ALREADY
ON NOTICE- THAT YOU'RE GETTING
SUCH AREA WITH POTABLE WATER MAY
NOT BE AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE.
THE STATE WATER BOARDS EMERGENCY
DROUGHT REGULATIONS THAT
PROHIBITED THE IRRIGATION OF
NONFUNCTIONAL TURF WITH POOR
WATER AT ALL COMMERCIAL
INDUSTRIAL. INSTITUTIONAL NATURE
WAY PROPERTIES SINCE LAST JUNE.
AB FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO IN EFFECT
MAKES THE CURRENT REGULATIONS
PERMIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF
TWO MINUTES THANK YOU SO MUCH-
THANK YOU TERRA MEMBERS J.
JEFFERSON ON BEHALF OF THE
METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA- WE ARE
PROUD CO SPONSORS OF MAYBE
FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND OTHER CO
SPONSORS. A PARTICULARLY FOR
THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THE
REMOVAL OF THE APPLICATION TO
MULTI FAMILY PROPERTIES AND ALSO
TO ENSURE THAT- THIS BILL ONLY
APPLIES TO PROPERTIES AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ONCE
THEY RECEIVE STATE FUNDING-
MEMBERS. MORE THAN HALF OF ALL
WATER USED IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA IS USED OUTDOORS FOR
IRRIGATION MUCH OF THAT BEING
GRASS THAT HAS NOT WALKED ON OUR
PLATE ON OR USED IN ANY
MEANINGFUL WAY. GRASS KNOWN AS
NON FUNCTIONAL TIRE FOR NFC.
METROPOLITAN HAS BEEN WORKING
FOR DECADES TO TRANSFORM
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA'S LANDSCAPES
INCLUDING PROGRAMS PROVIDING
REBATES TO SUPPORT THE REMOVAL
OF AN F. T. AND THE INCLUSION OF
MORE CLIMATE APPROPRIATE PLANTS.
WE'VE USED THESE PROGRAMS TO
CONVERT OVER TWO HUNDRED MILLION
SQUARE FEET OF GRASS ACROSS OUR
SERVICE AREA RESULTING IN ENOUGH
WATER SAVINGS TO SUPPLYING SIXTY
TWO THOUSAND HOUSEHOLDS PER
YEAR. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT
THESE EFFORTS ARE WORKING AND-
RESULTING IN VALUABLE WATER
SAVINGS. AS CLIMATE CHANGE
BRINGS CHALLENGES TO WATER
SUPPLIES ACROSS THE STATE WE
HAVE TO BEGIN TO THINK
CRITICALLY ABOUT WAYS TO ENSURE
WE ARE MAXIMIZING THIS IMPORTANT
RESOURCE. AS YOU KNOW AND AS
MENTIONED BY THE AUTHOR AND CO
SPONSOR THE STATE WATER BOARD IS
CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER AN
EMERGENCY ORDER. THAT BANS THE
USE OF POTABLE WATER FOR
IRRIGATING NFC AND COMMERCIAL
INSTITUTIONAL AND INDUSTRIAL
SPACES. THIS BILL REPRESENTS AN
IMPORTANT CONTINUATION OF THAT
POLICY TO ENSURE THAT WE
CONSERVE WATER AND ADVANCE
SUSTAINABLE WATER MANAGEMENT. BY
REDUCING THE USE OF POTABLE
WATER ON GRASS THAT PROVIDES
LITTLE BENEFIT TO COMMUNITY LIFE
WE CAN CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF
STATE WHY WATER CONSUMPTION TO
ENSURE MORE RESILIENT WATER
SUPPLIES FOR THE FUTURE. OF FOR
THESE REASONS AND MORE WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU CAME IN JUST A TWO
MINUTES ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE
ANYONE IN THE ROOM IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL- PLEASE LIMIT YOUR
COMMENTS YOUR NAME AFFILIATION
AND POSITION ON THE MEASURE
THANK YOU. THE MORNING JAMIE
MINOR ON BEHALF OF EASTERN
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IN
SANTA MARGARITA WATER DISTRICT
AND WEST BASIN MUNICIPAL WATER
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
FOR A GOOD MORNING SIR BRIDGES
ON BEHALF OF SANTA CLAUS. SANTA
CLARA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT
VALLEY WATER IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU FOR. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN FENSTER MAKER ON BEHALF
OF CINEMA WATER IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
LEAVE O'KEEFE ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. SAYING NO
ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE LET'S HEAR
FROM ANY LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION WE HAVE LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. LOOKS
LIKE WE HAVE ONE. OF TWO MINUTES
AGAIN WHENEVER YOU'RE READY- YOU
COULD HAVE FOR THIS KIDDING NO
I. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THERE
ARE- BABRI WITH REGARD RELATIONS
ON BEHALF OF MULTIPLE WATER
DISTRICT CLIENTS. THOSE IT WILL
BE OPPOSED NO MATTER WHAT
AMENDMENT AND YOU KNOW THE AND
IN DEFERENCE TO THE AUTHOR- THEY
BELIEVE THIS IS A LOCAL
DECISION. LOCAL WATER SUPPLIERS
ALREADY HAVE TO DO URBAN WATER
MANAGEMENT PLAN THEY HAVE TO
CONTEND WITH A WATER SHORTAGE
ANALYSIS DROUGHT WATER
CONTINGENCY PLANS. THEY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DETERMINE WHEN AND
WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO SERVE-
TURF WHETHER IT'S FUNCTIONAL OR
NON FUNCTIONAL WE BELIEVE THAT'S
BEST LEFT TO LOCAL AGENCIES. WE
ARE WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR
STAFF ON BEHALF OF EL DORADO
IRRIGATION DISTRICT AND DESERT
WATER AGENCY THAT ARE OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED- THE BILL DOES
NOT- IT TREATS. HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMON INTEREST
DEVELOPMENTS WITH A BROAD BRUSH
THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE
INDIVIDUAL- OR MULTIPLE UNITS
HAVE TURF IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME
PSYCH A FRONT LAWN FOR SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCE BUT THE BILL
RIGHT NOW WITH BAND- THE
IRRIGATION OF THAT. BECAUSE THE
COMMON- AND RECREATIONAL USES
LIMITED FOR ONLY INDIVIDUAL
DWELLING UNITS NOT MULTIPLE
DWELLING UNITS AND- COMMON
INTEREST DEVELOPMENT. E. ID HAS
A DIFFERENT SITUATION THEY
UTILIZE RECYCLED WATER IN THEIR
SYSTEM FOR- IRRIGATING FRONT AND
BACKYARDS TO THE SERRANO
DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING AREAS
SO IT'S A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL
INSTITUTIONAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND BASED ON CONSERVATION THE
AMOUNT OF RECYCLED WATER THAT'S
PRODUCES HAS BEEN STATIC OR
DECLINING AND SO ON IN SUMMER
MONTHS WHEN THEY HAVE TO
IRRIGATE THROUGH THE RECYCLED
WATER SYSTEM THEY HAVE TO ADD
POTABLE WATER TO MAKE UP FOR THE
TOTAL DEMAND SO WE'RE WORKING
WITH- THE AUTHOR STAFF TO TRY
AND FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT. WE
DON'T STE RAN THAT. POSITIVE
RECYCLED WATER SYSTEM BY BANNING
POTABLE USE ON NON FUNCTIONAL
TURF. THANK YOU THANK YOU
APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM THAT
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE- LET'S
HEAR FROM ANY WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE ORBIS. AGAIN IF
YOU'RE GOING TO TESTIFY PLEASE
LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE. MISTER MODERATOR IF YOU
COULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY TWO WE CAN BEGIN
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR ON THE
PHONE SUPPOSED TO FIND SUPPORT
OPPOSITION MAYBE FIFTEEN SEVENTY
TWO PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME IF YOU HAVEN'T
ALREADY. WE'LL GO FIRST TO LINE
NUMBER TWENTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. TWENTY SEVEN DAVID
WADDELL. DAVID RAMOS FROM- THE
KIDS IN TURN STRONG. GIVE M.
LINE FIFTEEN GO AHEAD. A GOOD
MORNING KIM DELFINO REPRESENTING
DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE SIERRA
CLUB IN SUPPORT OF AB FIFTY
SEVENTY TWO THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. LINE TWENTY EIGHT GO AHEAD
PLEASE. JOHN BORROWER BETWEEN
YOUR THREE KIDS .ORG. FORT THANK
YOU. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE LINE
TWELVE GO HEAD. THE MORNING
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS- THE
NUMBER WITH THE CALIFORNIA WATER
EFFICIENCY PARTITION IN SUPPORT
OF AB SEVENTY TWO THANK YOU
THANK YOU. BOGA LINE TWENTY NINE
GO AHEAD. THE VACUUM CLEANER
HEADS BACKWARD STRONGLY SUPPORT
. THANK YOU. A LINE THIRTEEN GO
AHEAD. KATHY SAVER ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA AND
THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE. REALITY
COALITION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
. IT WAS SURE AT THIS TIME WE
HAVE NO ADDITIONAL CALLS IN
QUEUE GREAT THANK YOU TO ALL WHO
TESTIFIED DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON
THE DAY'S WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK-
SENATE OUT. GOOD TO SEE YOU
ASSEMBLY. WOMAN- SO I HAVE NO
PROBLEM WITH THE BILL ON THE
WATER SIDE OF IT BUT I DO HAVE A
QUESTION- AND ON THE- NATIVE
PLANT SO I ACTUALLY. DOES NOT
THIS BILL. FEDERAL EXPRESS. OKAY
. RIGHT. DISTRICT OKAY
THUNDERSTORMS- DAY MR CREATE THE
LEGISLATION- HAPPY MOVIE IT AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME- NOW THE-
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE AND I
HOPE THE AUTHORED LOOKS AT THIS
GOING FORWARD SOUNDS LIKE IT'S
ON HER RADAR- JUST THE WHAT GETS
REPLACED WITH. AND ESPECIALLY
THE LOCAL LEVEL WHERE THERE IS
SOME DISCRETION STILL MAKING
SURE WE DON'T DRIVE ASTRO TURF-
THIS SORT OF THE ANSWER- WE KNOW
THAT STUFF IS MADE OF. YEAH MANY
BAD THINGS AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE
A SCHOOL DISTRICT IN OUR
BACKYARD NOW WHO'S- TRYING TO DO
ON THE AUSPICES OF DROUGHT
TOLERANCE SORT OF SWITCHING OVER
TO ASK RETURN THEN THEY'RE GONNA
WATER THEIR TURF I JUST WONDER
IF THERE'S SOME WAY FOR THE
SPONSORS OR WHOEVER'S WORKING ON
THIS TO LOOK FORWARD. SAYING
WHATEVER THAT REPLACEMENTS GOING
TO BE IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE BASING
WATERING THAT AS WELL THE SAME
SORT OF POSSIBLE- OR SORT OF
RECYCLED WATER- RESTRICTIONS
MIGHT APPLY IN OTHER WORDS IF
THE REPLACEMENT WOULD TAKE ON
THE SAME WATER USE THAT IT
SHOULDN'T QUALIFY AS REPLACEMENT
OF THIS BILL SORT OF SCOPED.
JUST AROUND THE- THEN THE
NONFUNCTIONAL TURF ITSELF BUT
HOPING THAT SOMETHING WE CAN
LOOK AT LEAST GOING FORWARD IF
NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS BILL
AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO
MOVE. I DO OF COURSE CENTER
DOLLARS BILLION. SO FOR THOSE OF
US WHO ARE IN VERY RULE WATER
DISTRICTS AND ELDORADO WHICH IS
MY DISTRICT IS OPPOSING YOUR
BILL IS SO WHAT WHAT ABOUT THE
PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE-
PURPLE PIPER THE BILL YOU GET
THE RECYCLED WATER TO WHERE THEY
WANT TO GO. SO UNDER THIS BILL-
IF IT'S AN INSTITUTIONAL
MUNICIPAL COMMERCIAL AND IT'S
NON FUNCTIONAL TURF. THEY WOULD
BY A CERTAIN DATE HAVE TO
REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S
NOT TURF. IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL
THEY CAN KEEP THEIR TURF. I YOU
KNOW THAT THE IDEA IS THAT
THERE'S SO MANY OTHER MORE
SUSTAINABLE OR YOU CAN IF YOU'RE
IN AN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE ENOUGH
RAIN. YOU JUST HAVE TO- AGAIN
YOU CAN STILL HAVE TURF. RIGHT
SO THERE'S ALSO THAT OPTION- BUT
THE GOAL IS THAT THE WHOLE STATE
. WHEN IT COMES TO NON
FUNCTIONAL PLANTS TRISTIS WHICH
IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AS WATER
AND PESTICIDE INTENSIVE. WHERE
THAT EVENTUALLY GO TO THE TO THE
RECYCLED WATER MORE PLACES.
JANISSARY YOU HAVE YEAH I DO
THINK. SO HOW DO WE BALANCE THIS
WITH OUR OUR- HEATON CLIMB OR
TRYING TO COOL THINGS DOWN NOT
HEAT THINGS UP AND GRASSES.
GREAT FOR KEEPING THINGS A
LITTLE COOLER- AND WE SEE THAT
THE REASON THEY WANTED. ON IN
HIGH SCHOOLS ON- SUFFICIENT
STADIUM TURF. IS WHEN THEY'RE
OUT THERE PRACTICING EITHER FOR
THE BAND OR FOR WHATEVER- THAT
TURF IS HOT- DID YOU KNOW THE-
SO. THEY HAVE TO WATER IT TO
KEEP IT COOL- IF THEY HAVE TO
REPLACE THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE PURPLE PIPE. AND THEY STILL
HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT
ALTERNATIVES. STE FOR THAT YOU
KNOW HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT WITH
THE CARBON SEQUESTRATION BECAUSE
THERE ARE CARBON SEQUESTRATION
PROPERTIES OF NATURAL TURF- AND
IN OUR OTHER EFFORTS WITH. SOME
OF THE CLIMATE ISSUES THAT THAT
PEOPLE WANT TO ADDRESS THANK YOU
AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION
JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR. ANY KIND
OF PLAYING FIELD IS FUNCTIONAL
TURF SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR
FOR PEOPLE I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW
THAT BUT FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE
LISTENING. IF IT'S FUNCTIONAL
TURF AND IT'S DEFINED IN THE
BILL IF IT'S TURF THAT YOU'RE
USING YOU'RE USING IT FOR
SEATING IT'S IN YOUR FRONT YARD
IN YOUR KIDS PLAY ON IT OR WE
DON'T DEAL WITH MULTI FAMILY AT
ALL. BUT EVEN THE COMMON AREA
DEVELOPMENT THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT THAT'S FUNCTIONAL COMMON
AREA DEVELOPMENT GOT TABLE ON IT
IT'S GOT A LOUNGE CHAIR KIDS ARE
PLAYING. THAT ALL STAYS IT CAN
ALL STAYS TURF. SPORTS FIELDS
ABSOLUTELY THAT'S FUNCTIONAL
TURF AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER
PERSONALLY AS A CHILD HAS A
CHILD SOMEONE HAS A CHILD. WOULD
RATHER THAT THEY'RE PLAYING ON
ACTUAL TURF THAN ON VICTOR- IN
TERMS OF THE OTHER PLANS- THERE
ARE CERTAINLY A VARIETY OF
PLANTS THAT YOU CAN USE THAT ARE
LESS WATER INTENSIVE AND
PESTICIDE INTENSIVE THAN TURF
THAT WILL ALSO GIVE YOU THE
BENEFIT. OF SUCKING UP CARBON
DIOXIDE BE A CARBON SINK AND
STAY COOLER. MY HOUSE WE HAVE
SOMETHING LIKE FOURTEEN
THOUSAND. OF A SQUARE FOOT LOT
WE HAVE NO TURF WE'VE GOT A TON
OF NATIVE PLANTS. AND IT'S LIKE
A MICRO CLIMATE IT STAYS VERY
COOL AND IT'S ALSO FILLED WITH
BUTTERFLIES. AND BEES AND MANY
OTHER. THINGS SO- THE NATURAL
PLANTS ALSO GIVE YOU THAT THAT
SAME BENEFIT. THANK YOU YOU HAVE
I HAVE THE SAME THING MY FRONT
YARD IS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT. AND
IN THE BACKYARD. HAS A NICE
GRASS AREA WHICH IS WHERE THE
DOG GOES BECAUSE IT'S NICE AND
COOL. RIGHT AND- IT'S HOTTER
THAN HADES IN THE FRONT YARD.
EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD CLOSE THE
TIME. AND IT'S NOT AS IN THE
BACKYARD ON THE GRASS AND THAT'S
WHERE. WILL IT MAKE IT A LOT OF
OUR WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING
TO GET WE'RE TRYING TO GET A
COOLER CLIMATE. OR TAKING AWAY
THINGS THAT CAUSE COOLER CLIP.
COOLER CLIMATES. IT'S JUST
THERE'S A BALLOT SOMEWHERE IN
THERE THAT WE HAVE TO FIND AND I
DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW JUST.
CONCERNS ME THAT WEEK WE KEEP
TRYING TO FIND OUT BUT WE KEEP
PUSHING THINGS THE OTHER WAY
WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF FIGHT
AGAINST OURSELVES. THAT'S ALL I
APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER THOUGH
THANK YOU THANK YOU CENTERS
THERE TO SING NO ONE ELSE- I
JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR
YOU- IS IT CORRECT THAT
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AND
OTHER CERTAIN OTHER COMMITTEES
BY HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME. TO
IMPLEMENT THIS AS WELL. I
BELIEVE SO WE ARE WE HAVE
CHANGED THE TIME LINES IN THE
BILL. I THINK I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT I APPRECIATE ALL THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN.
AND WITH THAT- WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE I WOULD JUST WANT TO SAY-
TWO SENATORS HERE TOO I DO
WONDER IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY
THAT PERHAPS BECAUSE YOU'RE
WATERING THE TURF MOOR. THAT
STAYING COOLER. YOU KNOW IF YOU
HAVE A NATIVE. PLANT PALETTE AND
YOU DO CHOOSE TO WATER IT MORE
THERE'S NOTHING ON A BILL THAT
SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT AS
WELL. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE
COMMENT I THINK IT'S A HUGE
ISSUE WITH- ASTRO TURF
PARTICULARLY IS HOW HOT IT GETS.
AND SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE. THANK YOU-
AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
SENATOR STERN AND THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. OUR SYSTEM
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CENTERS
MEANT. MAN I. DON'T KNOW SEE I
DON'T KNOW ALLEN. ALLEN I DELHI.
DELHI NO. EGGMAN EGGMAN I
GROWTH. HER TADO. MCGUIRE LIMÓN.
LOAN I PADILLA. AYE STERN ALL
RIGHT STERN I. THE ACCOUNT IS
SIX TO LEAVE THAT BELONG CALL-
YOU HAVE ANOTHER BILL PRESENTED
SOME IN MEMBER I FEEL. IT'S FILE
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT- AB FIFTEEN
SEVENTY THREE OUR LAST BILL THE
DAY SO. THANK YOU MEMBERS AND
THIS IS A COMPANION TO THE
PREVIOUS BILL I ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENT STARTING ON
PAGE TEN OF THE ANALYSIS AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE IS A BILL
ABOUT BIODIVERSITY WITH WATER
EFFICIENCY BENEFITS. HOWEVER AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE IS NOT A
WATER EFFICIENCY BILL I JUST
WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. A
CALIFORNIA IS AT THE FOREFRONT
OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WE HAVE
BEEN EXPERIENCING REAL TIME
IMPACTS OF EXTREME WEATHER WATER
SHORTAGES AND THE NATION'S
HIGHEST LEVEL OF SPECIES LOSS.
ACTION IS NEEDED NOW TO CONSERVE
NATURAL RESOURCES WHILE ALSO
PROTECTING THE STATE'S
REMARKABLE BIODIVERSITY. AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE UNITES A
GROWING BODY OF CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC POLICY AIMED AT WATER
CONSERVATION. TO LINK IT WITH
BIODIVERSITY PRODUCTION AND
URBAN GREENING. A RECENT. STUDY
PUBLISHED BY NATURE SERVER FOUND
A 34% OF PLANTS AND 40% OF
ANIMAL SPECIES IN THE U. S. ART
WRIST A RISK OF EXTINCTION WITH
CALIFORNIA UNFORTUNATELY LEADING
THE WAY. CALIFORNIA THE STATE
WITH THE GREATEST DIVERSITY OF
PLANT SPECIES IN THE NATION AND
HOME 240% OF NORTH AMERICA'S
NATIVE BEE POPULATION ALSO HAS
THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF BASS
READ RISK SPECIES. FOR THESE
VITAL PLANTS AND POLLINATORS.
TODAY ROUGHLY HALF OF ALL
PUBLICLY SUPPLIED WATER IS USED
PRIMARILY FOR LANDSCAPE
IRRIGATION WITH MUCH OF THAT
IRRIGATION IS POTABLE WATER USE
ON NON FUNCTIONAL TURF. AND TURF
IS THE NUMBER ONE IRRIGATED CROP
IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.
NATIVE PLANTS HAVE EVOLVED UNDER
CALIFORNIA'S CLIMATE AND DROUGHT
CONDITIONS AND BY THEIR NATURE
ARE ALREADY LOW WATER USING
PLANTS. AB FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE
WOULD ELIMINATE THE USE OF NON
FUNCTIONAL TURF AND REQUIRE ALL
NON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. TO
USE 25% NATIVE PLANTS FOR THE
PROJECT'S LANDSCAPE FOOTPRINT
AFTER DECEMBER FIRST TWENTY
TWENTY SIX. THIS APPROACH WILL
GIVE TIME FOR THE PLAN INDUSTRY
TO GROW AND MARKET NATIVE PLANTS
AND WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE NURSERIES
TO COME UP WITH THAT DATE. IN
ORDER TO RESPOND TO THE CONCERNS
OF THE NURSERIES I'VE ALREADY
AMENDED THE BILL TO FIRST.
REMOVE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS THAT
ALL PLANTS INSTALLED IN NEW OR
RENOVATED NON RESIDENTIAL AREAS
BE 50% NATIVE PLANTS IN TWENTY
THIRTY. AND SEVENTY FIVE NATIVE
PERCENT NATIVE PLANTS IN TWENTY
THIRTY FIVE WE REMOVE THAT. TO
EXTENDED SORRY EXPANDED THE
VARIETY OF PLANTS THAT MAY BE
USED FROM LOCAL NATIVE PLANTS
FOUND IN THE AREA OF THE
PROJECTS TO ALL NATIVE PLANTS
FOUND WITH IN CALIFORNIA. AND
THREE REQUIRE THE STATE TO SET
UP A WORKING GROUP WITH A BROAD
RANGE OF STAKEHOLDERS WITH
EXPERTISE AND NATIVE PLANTS TO
DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN. WITH
MEASURABLE MILESTONES TO REACH A
REQUIRED HIGHER AMOUNT OF NATIVE
PLANTS. HOWEVER NO FUTURE
REQUIREMENT WILL BE PLACED INTO
LAW WITHOUT ACTION BY THE
LEGISLATURE. MOVING TO SOME
NATIVE PLANTS AND LANDSCAPES
WILL REALIZE REDUCTIONS IN
ENERGY USE WATER USE AND
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. BASED
ON THE LOW MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF
THESE LANDSCAPES. THE BILL IS
SPONSORED BY THE NATIVE PLANT
SOCIETY AND SUPPORTED BY THE
METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT OF AB FIFTEEN SEVENTY
THREE IS DOCTOR ONE OF BONDO
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CALIFORNIA
NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY AND KATE
HAYES. A DESIGN PRINCIPAL AND
MERRYDAY A SACRAMENTO BASED
NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPING DESIGN
FIRM. THANK YOU YOU MAY PROCEED
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY
TODAY I'M DR JIM BANDA EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY. SI NPS IS
PLEASED TO SPONSOR AB FIFTEEN
SEVENTY THREE AND WE THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER FRIEDMAN FOR
AUTHORING THIS BILL. TODAY A
STAGGERING 34% OF PLANTS AND 40%
OF ANIMAL SPECIES IN THE U. S.
ARE AT RISK OF EXTINCTION. IN
CALIFORNIA HAS THE HIGHEST
NUMBER OF NATIVE PLANTS AND B.
B. SPECIES AT RISK. THIS HAS
IMPLICATIONS FOR BIODIVERSITY
AND OUR AGRICULTURAL SUCCESS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT OUR
LANDSCAPES HAVE ENORMOUS
UNTAPPED POTENTIAL TO ADDRESS
THESE CHALLENGES AND INCREASE
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO NATURE.
TODAY ROUGHLY HALF OF PUBLICLY
SUPPLIED WATER IS USED FOR
LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION MOVING TO
NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPES REDUCES
WATER AND ENERGY USE. NATIVE
PLANTS ARE UNIQUELY ADAPTED TO
CALIFORNIA'S CLIMATE EXTREMES
AND DROUGHT TOLERANT NATIVE
PLANTS HAVE EVOLVED TO SURVIVE
AND EVEN THRIVE IN LOW WATER
CONDITIONS. THE SHIFT A NATIVE
PLANT LANDSCAPING SUPPORTS
BIODIVERSITY BY PROVIDING
HABITAT FOR POLLINATORS AND
OTHER WILDLIFE. AND IT'S
IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY HERE THAT
NOT ANY PLANTS WILL DO. RESEARCH
SHOWS THAT NATIVE PLANTS ARE AN
ESSENTIAL PART OF SPECIALIZED
RELATIONSHIPS SUPPORT FOOD WEBS.
THIS MEANS NOT JUST NECTAR FOR
POLLINATORS BUT FOR ITS FOR
CATERPILLARS AND A PRIMARY FOOD
SOURCE FOR BIRDS. THE HABITAT
PROVIDED BY URBAN LANDSCAPES
COMPLIMENTS THE PROTECTION OF
WILD LANDS UNDER THE STATE'S
THIRTY BY THIRTY STRATEGY. AND
NATIVE PLANTS IN PUBLIC SPACES
BRING NATURE CLOSER TO ALL
CALIFORNIANS REDUCING GAPS IN
ACCESS TO NATURE'S BENEFITS. AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE SETS ARE
PRACTICAL 25% NATIVE PLANT
REQUIREMENT OFFERS A GENEROUS
ONRAMP AND CALLS FOR MULTI
SECTOR WORKING GROUP TO DEVELOP
A PLAN TO INCREASE THE USE OF
NATIVE PLANTS IN SUPPORT OF
BIODIVERSITY. THIS BILL. AS YOU
INFORMED BY YEARS OF INDUSTRY.
CONVERSELY ALREADY OF TWO
MINUTES. THANKS GOOD MORNING AND
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF AB FIFTEEN
SEVENTY THREE. I AM THE DESIGN
PRINCIPLE FROM YOUR DAY A
SACRAMENTO BASED LANDSCAPE
DESIGN AND BUILD COMPANY WE
BELIEVE DEEPLY THAT WE CAN USE
OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT. AND BUILT
LANDSCAPES TO STRENGTHEN
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PEOPLE AND
NATURE. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE
ETHOS OF LANDSCAPING FUTURE IN
CALIFORNIA. TODAY WE HAVE THE
SCIENCE AND THE LIVED EXPERIENCE
TO KNOW THAT LIFE ON OUR PLANET
IS CHANGING BEFORE OUR EYES.
FROM THE ALARM ALARMING TO
EXTINCTION RISK THE DOCTOR BOND
A REFERENCE TO THE VERY REAL AND
DALY IMPACTS OF THE CLEANING OF
A CHANGING CLIMATE THE NEWS IS
ALARMING AND CAN BE PARALYZING
BUT WE CAN CHOOSE TO ACT WITHIN
OUR OWN SPACES AND CAPACITY. AS
A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT GROUNDED
IN ECOLOGY I KNOW FIRST HAND
THAT THE VISION BEHIND AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE IS NOT
ONLY URGENTLY NEEDED IT'S
POSSIBLE AND IT'S PRACTICAL.
PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU OTHERWISE
ARE WORRIED ABOUT CHANGE BUT IN
THIS CASE CHANGE CAN RAISE ALL
SHIPS ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN
AND HER STAFF TO WORK DILIGENTLY
TO LISTEN TO MEMBERS OF THE
NURSERY AND LANDSCAPE INDUSTRY
TO BUILD A PRACTICAL PATH
FORWARD. A NATIVE PLANT
REQUIREMENT CREATES THE BUILT IN
DEMAND THAT BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN
WAITING FOR IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR PEOPLE FROM ALL CORNERS OF
THE NURSERY GROWER LANDSCAPER
INDUSTRIES TO GROW OUR BUSINESS.
OUR BUSINESS MODELS EXPAND
RATHER THAN CONTRACT OUR PLANT
PALETTE AND ADAPT TO THE
CHANGING CONDITIONS WE ARE
FACING. AND I KNOW IT CAN BE
DONE THE COMPANY THAT I WORK
FROM YOUR DAY HAS SEEN
TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN OUR EIGHT
YEARS OF BUSINESS. WE'VE
COMPLETED HUNDREDS OF LANDSCAPE
DESIGNS AND INSTALLATIONS
THROUGHOUT THE SACRAMENTO AND
BAY AREAS PLANTING MORE THAN A
HUNDRED THOUSAND NATIVE PLANTS
AND GENERATING CLOSE TO TEN
MILLION IN REVENUE. ARE PROJECTS
HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO REDUCE WATER
USAGE SIGNIFICANT HABITAT
ENHANCEMENT FOR POLLINATORS AND
OTHER WILDLIFE. AND GENERATED
MANY JOBS FOR ALL THESE REASONS
I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON AB SIX
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE THANK YOU
. YES BOTH CAME IN AT EXACTLY
TWO MINUTES WHILE PRACTICE THANK
YOU. LET'S BRING IT BACK I'M
SORRY FIVE SO. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY WILL HEAR FROM
ANY- SUPPORT WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM. AGAIN PLEASE LIMIT YOUR
TESTIMONY TO YOUR NAME
ASSOCIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE. JAMIE MINOR BEHALF OF
EASTERN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT
WE HAVE A SUPPORT IF AMENDED
POSITION PRECIADO ALL THE WORK
IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE GONE
INTO THE BILL JUST HAVE A- FEW
MORE TRICKS TO MAKE SURE THAT
FOLKS CAN MEET THE TWENTY FIVE
PERCENT- MANDATE THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU- J.
JEFFERSON WITH METROPOLITAN IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. SHE
EDWARD- ST WITH THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL URGING
AND I ON. A VOTE ON THIS BILL
THANK YOU. I SEE NO ONE ELSE IN
THE ROOM LET'S MOVE ON AND SEE
IF WE HAVE ANY LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE.
TO JUST ONE OKAY. I CAN IF YOU
CAN LIMIT YOUR TESTIMONY TWO
MINUTES THAT BE GREAT THANK ALL
COME IN RIGHT UNDER TWO HI THANK
YOU VERY MUCH COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU ASSEMBLY MEMBER. OF MY
NAME'S DAVID KIRBY FROM A VERITY
GROWERS WERE A LANDSCAPE- GROWER
FIRM WE HAVE NINE FARMS IN
CALIFORNIA INCLUDING HUNTINGTON
BEACH BY ROUTE. AND COUPLE NEAR
FUTURE IN SACRAMENTO. SO WE
CATER TO THE LANDSCAPE INDUSTRY.
WE GROW ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE
HUNDRED DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF
PLANTS AND ARE ALWAYS EXCELLING
TO GET LOW WATER USE HEAT
TOLERANT VARIETIES- WE DO GROW
NATIVE PLANTS AS WELL. AND WE'RE
HAPPY TO DO SO WE COMPLETELY
AGREE WITH THIS BILL- WE
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EXPANDING
BIODIVERSITY WE COMPLETELY AGREE
WITH THE USE OF NATIVE PLANTS.
HOWEVER IT IS THE- ABILITY TO
SCALE TO THE LEVEL REQUIRED BY
THE BILL THAT WE JUST ARE NOT
GONNA BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE. WE
JUST HEARD TEN MILLION DOLLARS
IN SALES OF THE LAST EIGHT
YEARS. THAT'S GREAT THAT'S
WONDERFUL THAT'S MORE NATIVE
PLANTS AND I KNOW THEY'RE
THEY'RE MORE RESIDENTIAL
LANDSCAPES ARE USING NATIVE
PLANTS. WHEN YOU GET TO THE
SCALE THE LAST HORTICULTURAL
SINCE THIS WAS DONE IN TWENTY
NINETEEN. FROM THE US DEPARTMENT
BAG. SAYS EIGHT HUNDRED AND
THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS IN PLANTS
WERE SOLD IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. LARGEST SINGLE
STATE. IF WE SAID 15% OF THAT.
WAS COMMERCIAL NON RESIDENTIAL
LANDSCAPE. THERE MERELY ISN'T
ENOUGH PLANTS NATIVE PLANTS TO
PROVIDE THAT THE 25% WHAT WE'RE
ASKING FOR IS AN EXPANSION- WE
APPRECIATE ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS
SO FAR. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS
AN EXPANSION OF THE PLANT LIST
TO INCLUDE NON NATIVE
NONINVASIVE. POLLINATOR
FRIENDLY- TO IT ACTS ABSOLUTELY
INCREASE BIODIVERSITY. BY
REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PLANTS
YOUR REDUCING BIODIVERSITY. THAT
REALLY IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR
TESTIMONY- ANY. ADDITIONAL
OPPOSITION WITNESSES WOULD YOU
LIKE TO TEST FIRE JUST OKAY. YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES THANKS MISTER
CHAIRMAN BURST THE COMMITTEE
LOUIS BROWN HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF PLANT CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE.
SHARE THE SAME CONCERN TO THE
PREVIOUS WITNESS ONE EXPRESS THE
GRATITUDE TO THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSORS FOR WORKING WITH US IN
THE AMENDMENTS IN THE BILL- ONE
OF OUR- PRINCIPAL CONCERNS WITH
THE BILL- THE AUTHOR STATED IN
THE OPENING STATEMENT THIS IS
NOT ABOUT WATER EFFICIENCY.
HOWEVER THE LANGUAGE OF AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE IS AMENDED
INTO THE- MODEL WATER EFFICIENCY
LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ACT.
THEREFORE THIS IS THEM WELL- IS
NOT ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS IN WELL-
IS ABOUT WATER EFFICIENCY AND
WELL IT WAS ABOUT GIVING.
GUIDANCE TO LANDSCAPE
CONTRACTORS AND LANDSCAPE
DESIGNERS ABOUT WATER EFFICIENT
LANDSCAPES SO WE'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE PRECEDENT THE FIFTEEN
SEVENTY THREE SETS BY PUTTING A
MANDATE FOR CERTAIN TYPE OF
PLANTS WITHIN THAT MODEL WATER
EFFICIENT LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE
AND- THEREFORE THINK THE TO
ISSUE SHOULD BE SEPARATED. WE DO
WANT TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR AGAIN SHE'S BEEN
GRACIOUS WITH THEIR TIME IN THE
SPONSORS HOW WITH OUR CONCERNS
AND WE HOPEFULLY CAN REACH
CONSENSUS AT SOME POINT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES WHICH IS
SPEAKING OPPOSITION PLEASE LIMIT
YOUR TESTIMONY TO YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION IMPOSITION OF THE
MEASURE. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS TRICIA GERINGER WITH
AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIA RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED HOPE TO KEEP
WORKING FOR **** ALL THE TIME
THANK YOU HAVE. TO HAVE ANY
OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES. MAKE
YOUR RECORD WITH GREENACRES
INSURANCE SUPPLY AND MATSUDA'S
NURSERY- OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN
THE QUEUE- MISTER MODERATOR
LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF AB FIFTEEN SEVENTY
THREE. THANK YOU YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO AB FIVE ONE FIVE
SEVEN THREE PLEASE PRESS ONE
ZERO AT THIS TIME ONE FILED BY
ZERO. FOURTEEN SCHOOL LIKE
TWENTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. IN
THE NAME OF DAVID PAUL. INTERNAL
CLEANER THE KIDS TRONG REPORT
THANK YOU. I THIRTY TO YOUR OPEN
. JOHN DOT ORG THE CLEANER FOR
KIDS .ORG OR- THANK YOU. PLEASE
GO AHEAD LINE FIFTEEN. HI GOOD
MORNING CAN DELFINO REPRESENTING
DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE AUTOBOT
CALIFORNIA AND YOUR CLUB
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT OF AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE THANK YOU
THANK YOU. I TWENTY NINE YOU ARE
OPEN. DAN HUME CLEANER FOR KIDS
DOT ORG STRONGLY SUPPORT THANK
YOU. PLEASE GO AHEAD LINE
THIRTEEN. SB SIX- ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA AND
THE CALIFORNIA COALITION OF
PLANET REALITY CHAPTER IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ANALYSTS GIVE ONE A FINAL
REMINDER ONE FILED BY XEROX IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE. PLEASE GO
AHEAD LINE THIRTY THREE. MORNING
THE MAR ACRE ON BEHALF OF BREAST
CANCER PREVENTION PARTNERS. WITH
THE- THANK YOU THANK FOR. AND-
ELSE IS CUTE UP THIS. I THANK
YOU ALL. WHO TESTIFIED IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF AB
FIFTEEN SEVENTY THREE WILL BRING
IT BACK TO OUR MEMBERS DO WE
HAVE ANY MEMBERS A CENTER DOLLY.
THIS THE BILL I WANTED TO COMMIT
SO AS- MANY NO I'M AT THE C.
PRODUCER IN CALIFORNIA AND-
REALLY LOOK AT THIS GREAT
OPPORTUNITY TO DO NATIVE PLANTS
AND BECAUSE THERE'S- POUND. IT'S
VERY LUCRATIVE IT LOOKS LIKE TO
START WITH SO I WENT DOWN THE
PATH STEVE YOU'LL HISTORY ABOUT
TRYING TO PRODUCE. GATHER AND
PRODUCE NATIVE SEEDS AND- WASN'T
LUCRATIVE AFTER YOU FIGURE OUT
HOW HARD IT IS TO ACTUALLY.
GATHER THE SEEDS GET HIM TO
GERMINATE KEEP IMPURE AND- SO I
WANTED TO GET TO THE QUESTION
REALLY THE QUESTION IS. IS THAT
THE SCALABILITY THAT THE FIRST
OPPOSITION BROUGHT UP- IS A HUGE
PROBLEM AND- IT TO GET THERE I
MEAN I THINK THERE NEED TO BE
MARKING THE START WE ALL WANT TO
DO THIS WE ALL KNOW THAT- YOU
KNOW NATIVE PLANTS ARE.
OBVIOUSLY DROUGHT TOLERANT THEY
THEY WORK WELL BUT- WE HAVE TO
LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY NO
THIS IS THE POINT I WANT TO
BRING OUT- AND THEN ALLOW YOU TO
GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
WHAT WE HAD. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE
NATIVE PLANTS IN CALIFORNIA BUT
WE HAVE A HELL OF A LOT. OF
NOXIOUS PLANTS THAT WERE
INTRODUCED TO CALIFORNIA THAT
COULD DESTROY NATIVE PLANTS IN A
HEARTBEAT ONE SEASON AND THIS
THIS YEAR IF YOU WERE TO COME TO
MY FARM- BECAUSE OF THE
ABUNDANCE OF RAIN WE HAVE.
NOXIOUS PLANTS EVERYWHERE THAT
CROWD OUT NATIVE PLANTS. AND SO
THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO KEEP
THOSE SEPARATE AND TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE COMPETITION. BECAUSE
COMPETITION IS WHAT- IS THE
NATURAL WAY OF INSTEAD OF USING
HERBICIDES- TO TAKE CARE OF
PLANTS IS THE NATURAL WAY TO DO
IT. SO THE SCALABILITY OF THIS
BILL I THINK IS THE IS THE REAL
ISSUE HERE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS
ON IT SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
ON- ACHIEVING IT BECAUSE- YOU
KNOW WE CAN HAVE ALL THE-
PEOPLE. THAT TESTIFIED SUPPORT
WE ALL WANTED BUT WE HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO ACHIEVE IT I THINK IS
THE- AND WHEN WE SET TARGETS AND
MANDATUM. WE WON'T BUILD A
CHEETOS WHEN WE LOOK AT SO WHAT
ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT THIS
IS GOT MOVING FORWARD FIRST OF
ALL WE CERTAINLY WANT THE
PROGRAM TO SUCCEED SO WILL
CONTINUE AS WE'VE BEEN. TO BE IN
DEEP CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
NURSERIES IN THE PROVIDERS- AND
I DO BELIEVE THAT WITH
SCALABILITY. IN GENERAL THE MORE
YOU START TO RAMP UP THE EASIER
IT GETS YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THAT
ECONOMY OF SCALE AS YOU RAMP UP
AND SO NOW IT'S HARDER FOR YOU
TO SOURCE LET'S SAY YOUR SEATS
BUT AS YOU HAVE MORE AND MORE
PRODUCERS MAKING THEM. THAT WILL
BECOME LESS AND LESS OF A
BARRIER FOR SURE. AND EVEN THE
PLANT NURSERIES THAT WE'VE
TALKED TO ESCAPE INTERVIEWS MORE
NATIVES BECAUSE THERE'S MORE
AWARENESS. AND MORE DEMAND. IT'S
CERTAINLY EASIER TO FIND THEM.
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO WALK OUT AND
FIND IT A PLANTS TODAY THAN IT
WAS EVEN THREE FOUR YEARS AGO.
CERTAINLY MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS
AGO. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK
TO THEM AND TO THE OTHER
NURSERIES THEIR NURSERIES THAT
SPECIALIZE JUST TO NATIVES.
INSTANCE AND THEY CAN START TO
ALSO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS
YOU SAID. ALL AND ALSO TO REMIND
EVERYBODY. IT'S 25% OF
LANDSCAPES IT DOESN'T INCLUDE
RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S ONLY GOING
FORWARD NO ONE'S ASKING PEOPLE
TO GO BACK AND TEAR UP WHAT THEY
HAD TO THERE WILL BE. AN
IMPLEMENTATION ROLL OUT IN TIME
BUT WE'VE BEEN IN IS CERTAINLY
IN CONVERSATIONS AS YOU HEARD
WITH THE NURSERIES WILL CONTINUE
TO TALK WITH THEM. TO FIND THE
RIGHT NUMBER. AND MAKE SURE THAT
YOU KNOW WE HAVE- IT IN CASE
THEY CAN'T SCALE UP THAT. YOU
KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO BE.
OBVIOUSLY PUNITIVE ABOUT THIS
THIS IS ABOUT TO TRY TO
ENCOURAGE THE INDUSTRY TO SHIFT
IN THIS DIRECTION. WHAT ABOUT
NON- NATIVE NON- INVASIVE
SPECIES TO BE ABLE TO BE AN
INTERIM TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT
PATHWAY THERE BECAUSE- THE END
OF THE DAY WE STILL WANT TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE- THE CARBON
SEQUESTRATION AND OUR TRIALS
THAT WE DID. WE HAD. WE HAD
NOTHING GROWING OUT THERE
BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN'T- IT'S
HARD IT'S HARD TO GERMANY AND
HARD TO GET IT DONE AND THAT'S
JUST FROM. MY OWN EXPERIENCE
KNOWING. THAT IF YOU HAVE
NOTHING THERE. YOU'RE NOT
SEQUESTERING CARBON YOU HAVE
EROSION ISSUES YOU HAVE A LOT OF
OTHER. THINGS AND MAYBE- TO HELP
THE- BUILD OUT. ALLOWING NON
NATIVE PLANTS THAT ARE. DROUGHT
TOLERANT- AND ARE GOOD
POLLINATORS AND THE LIKES AS
WELL. JUST A- DELIGHT I
APPRECIATE THAT AND YOUR
EXPERIENCES IS YOU KNOW IT'S A
VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR
US TO HAVE. A CERTAINLY AND I
DON'T DISCOUNT THAT. I'M MILLET
MILLET DEMELLO THE MODEL
LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ALREADY IS
ENCOURAGING THE DROUGHT
RESISTANT PLANTS. SO THAT'S SORT
OF THE STATUS QUO CERTAINLY IN
PLACES LIKE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WHERE WHEN YOU'RE CREATING A
LANDSCAPE YOU HAVE TO HIT
CERTAIN WATER TARGETS YOU'RE
GONNA END UP USING. A LOT OF
DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS BUT
WHAT YOU'RE MISSING IS THE
BIODIVERSITY PEACE AND- I WILL
TELL YOU TO SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T
REALIZE THAT THEY WERE
POISONING. BUT THE BEAST BECAUSE
I HAD NON NATIVE MILKWEED THERE
IS A SIDE EFFECT THAT A LOT OF
TIMES IT'S NOT CONSIDERED
INVASIVE. IT'S AVAILABLE WIDELY
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TOXIC TO OUR
POLLINATORS AND THAT'S THE CASE
WITH A LOT OF THESE NAY WITH THE
WITH MANY OF THESE NON NATIVES
THEY JUST DON'T FIT. WITH OUR
NATIVE ANIMAL HABIT THE ANIMALS
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE
HABITAT FOR. AND YOU CAN
CERTAINLY USE SOME OF THE OTHER
75% OF YOUR LANDSCAPE WITHIN THE
BILL BUT WE DON'T A GOAL OF THIS
IS TO REALLY TRY TO PROTECT
ENCOURAGE. THOSE VERY PRECIOUS
AND SPECIAL. CALIFORNIA NATIVES
THAT WE ARE LOSING. THANK YOU
SENATOR. I ANYONE ELSE ON THIS
BILL ALL RIGHT SO NO ONE ELSE I
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE TAKING IN
YOUR- CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH
STAKEHOLDERS. ARE SOME OF THE
CONCERNS RAISED BY OPPOSITION
WERE CONCERNS THAT I SHARE BUT I
KNOW YOU'RE ALSO WORKING VERY
HARD ON THIS ONE AND I THINK
THE- INTENT AS IT'S BEEN
DESCRIBED BY OTHERS AS- IS A
RIGHTEOUS ONE. SO WE- DO WE HAVE
A MOTION ON THIS BILL. OKAY I
WILL GIVE A MOTION FROM SAID I'M
SORRY WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
I'LL JUST SAY THIS ONE IS A
LITTLE BIT PERSONAL AND I HAVE
TO HEAR IT FROM ALL SIDES
BECAUSE MY HUSBAND'S A LANDSCAPE
CONTRACTOR SO HE'S ALSO SOMEONE
THAT HAS TO GO AND BUY PLANTS
ALL THE TIME. SO YOU KNOW WHAT I
REGIONALLY WE HAD A MORE
AGGRESSIVE VERSION OF THIS AND
HE WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD ME THIS
IS A NOTE YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T
GOING TO WORK. SO I DO TALK TO A
LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS INCLUDING
THE ONE THAT I LIVE WITH. ABOUT
HOW PRACTICAL AND EASY DOES FOR
HIM WHEN HE GOES TO BY NATIVES
FOR PEOPLE. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY
TAKING THESE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY
WE WILL CONTINUE AS THE BILL
MOVES THROUGH TO DIALOGUE WITH.
WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS.
THANK YOU SEVEN MEMBER WE HAVE A
MOTION FROM CENTER STERN THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
APPROPRIATIONS ASSISTANT PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. CENTERS MEN. MEN
I C. R. O. C. A. R. NO NO ALLEN
. ALLEN I DALY. EGGMAN EGGMAN I.
GROWTH HER TADO. MCGUIRE MCGUIRE
AYE LIMÓN. THE MOUNT AYE
PADILLA. PADILLA I STERN. STERN
I.
OKAY THE VOTE IS SEVEN ONE THAT
BILL IS OUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU ALL THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN WILL GO
BACK AND OPEN UP THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AGAIN- SYSTEM PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. CENTERS GROW.
SENATORS GROW. HER TADO REQUIRE.
REQUIRE ISLAND HOME. LIMÓN AYE
STERN. STERN HI. THAT VOTE IS
NINE ZERO THE BILL IS OUT. WILL
MOVE BACK TO- FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE AB FORTY FIVE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BOERNER ASSISTANT PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. CURRENT VOTE IS
FOR ONE WITH CHAIR VOTING I
CENTER SIERRA. GROVE HER TADO
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE MON. LIMON I
STERN STERN BY. THE VOTE COUNT
ON THAT IS SEVEN ONE THE BILL IS
OUT WILL MOVE ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER THREE AB SIX EIGHTEEN BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BAUER CAN'T HAN
ASSISTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
RIGHT AND I'M SORRY THE MOTION
IS TO PASS- TO APPROPRIATIONS
THE PASSES AMENDED
APPROPRIATIONS. FOR EIGHTY SIX
EIGHTEEN EMOTIONS PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS AND
WITH THE CURRENT LOTUS SEVEN
ZERO WITH THE CHAIR VOTING AND
VICE CHAIR VOTING BY. CENTER
GROVE HER TADO MCGUIRE ACQUIRE I
LIMÓN LIMÓN HI. ZERO YOUR
SESSION THAT'S NINE ZERO. ALL
RIGHT THE VOTE COUNT ON THAT IS
NINE ZERO THE BILL IS OUT WILL
MOVE ON TO FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX-
BUT AB ELEVEN SIXTY SEVEN BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CARILLO THE
MOTION IS TO PASS APPROPRIATIONS
ASSISTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CURRENT FOR TWO WITH CHAIR
VOTING I AM VICE CHAIR VOTING NO
CENTER EGGMAN. EGGMAN I- IT.
THIS IS AB ELEVEN SIXTY SEVEN
BYE ASSEMBLY MEMBER CARILLO- IS
NOT VOTING. HEY CENTER GROW HER
TADO. LIMON BUT MCGUIRE. SENATE
MCGUIRE I. LIMON CEREMONY I.
SIXTY THE VOTE IS SIX TO THAT
BILLS OUT- WILL MOVE ON TO FILE
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AB FIFTEEN
SEVENTY TWO BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
FRIEDMAN THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS OUR
SYSTEM PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CURRENT VOTE IS SIX TWO WITH
CHAIR MONNING I VICE YOU'RE
VOTING NO. AND SENATORS GROWTH.
HER TADO. MCGUIRE MCGUIRE I. THE
VOTE COUNT ON THAT IS SEVEN TO
THE BILL IS OUT THANK YOU
EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
COOPERATION WE HAVE CONCLUDED
THE AGENDA SENATE NATURAL
RESOURCES AND WATER COMMITTEE IS
NOW ADJOURNED.