WE THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
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TO ORDER GOOD MORNING WE
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ZERO EIGHT SIX TWO ONE THREE
FIVE ZERO EIGHT. SIX TWO OF FOR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FLOATING
AROUND THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE
WE'RE HOLDING OUR HEARING IN OUR
TEN TWENTY ONE- STREET LOCATION
OF ASK YOU TO COME ON DOWN TO
ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED SO WE
CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM. WE HAVE
SEVEN BILLS ON THE CALENDAR
TODAY THERE'S ONE MEASURE
PROPOSED FOR CONSENT IT'S FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWO ASSEMBLY BILL
EIGHT THREE FOUR PHYSICIANS AND
SURGEONS AND DOCTORS OF
PODIATRIC MEDICINE. THAT'S WHAT
AT SUCH TIME AS WE GET A QUORUM
WE WILL- TAKE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR- BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE
WILL ACT AS A SUB COMMITTEE AND
BEGIN HEARING BILLS THE FIRST
MEASURE UP IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE. BYE ASSEMBLY MEMBER- YOUR
CURRY IT IS ASSEMBLY BILL TWO
EIGHT TWO PSYCHOLOGISTS LICENSOR
. WARNING GOOD MORNING HERE WE
ARE JULY THIRD WHO WERE THOUGHT
TO. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS FIRST I WANT TO THANK
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
CONTINUED WORK WITH MY OFFICE.
AB TWO EIGHTY TWO WILL
STREAMLINE THE LICENSURE PROCESS
FOR PSYCHOLOGISTS BY ALLOWING
APPLICANTS FOR PSYCHOLOGY
LICENSURE. TO TAKE REQUIRED
EXAMINATIONS AT ANY TIME AFTER
THAT THE AFTER COMPLETING
QUALIFIED COURSEWORK. TODAY
APPLICANTS FOR LICENSURE HAVE TO
SUBMIT INFORMATION TO THE BOARD
OF PSYCHOLOGY MULTIPLE TIMES AND
EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT WAIT
TIMES AT EACH STEP IN THE
LICENSING PROCESS. EACH
SEQUENTIAL STEP IN THE LICENSOR
PROCESS TYPICALLY TAKES TWO TO
FOUR MONTHS TO PROCESS FOR A
TOTAL WAIT TIME OFTEN LASTING A
YEAR. AS A RESULT. THIS TIME
WAIT TIME OFTEN DELAYS WHEN
APPLICANTS CAN START CREDENTIAL
POSITIONS. IN A TWENTY TWENTY
TWO CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION MEMBER SURVEY 60% OF
THE RESPONDENTS REPORTED THAT
DELAYS CREATED FINANCIAL
HARDSHIP AND OVER 80% REPORTED
THE DELAYS CAUSED INTERRUPTIONS
IN PATIENT CARE. WELL THIS IS
NOT WELL THIS IS NOT A STUDY IT
IS CERTAINLY A FAIR INDICATION
THAT LARGE NUMBERS OF MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FEEL
THEY'RE NOT ONLY LOSING
OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE PATIENTS
IN DISTRESS. THERE ARE CONCERNS
IT'S AFFECTING MENTAL HEALTH
CARE IN OUR STATE. MEANWHILE OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE IN THE MIDST OF
A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND WE
ARE IN A IN DIRE NEED OF MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN
PROVIDE THE CARE AND SUPPORT OUR
CONSTITUENTS DESERVE. YOU KNOW I
RECENTLY HAD A HEART WRENCHING
CONVERSATION WITH CONSEQUENCES
CONSTITUENTS WHO TRAGICALLY LOST
THEIR SON DO IT THE ACTIONS OF
SOMEONE WHO HAS NOW BEEN
DECLARED MENTALLY INCOMPETENT TO
STAND TRIAL. THEY ASKED ME WHAT
I AM DOING TO PREVENT SUCH
DEVASTATING INCIDENTS. AND I
PROVIDE PROUDLY SHARED MY
COMMITMENT TO GETTING HEALTH
CARE PROVIDERS INTO THE
PROFESSION FASTER. THIS BILL
AIMS TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES
HEAD ON BY ALLOWING APPLICANTS
TO TAKE THE REQUIRED LICENSURE.
EXAMINATIONS IMMEDIATELY AFTER
COMPLETING THEIR ACADEMIC
COURSEWORK AND REDUCING THE
NUMBER OF TIMES THAT APPLICANT
HAS TO SUBMIT INFORMATION TO THE
BOARD. THESE CHANGES DO NOT
AFFECT THE VALUABLE INFORMATION
AVAILABLE TO THE BOARD BUT WITH
THIS BILL WE CAN SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCE THE PROCESS. RELATED WAIT
TIME SLOWING OUR LICENSING
SYSTEM. WHILE ENABLING ASPIRING
PSYCHOLOGIST TO TAKE THEIR
QUALIFICATIONS RECOGNIZE
RECOGNIZE SOONER WE ARE DIRECTLY
CONTRIBUTING TO THE WELL BEING
OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND TAKING
CONCRETE STEPS TO PREVENT FUTURE
TRAGEDIES. I AM JOINED TODAY BY
MY TWO WITNESSES. JENNIFER ALI A
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION AND JOHN BIRD DRIVE
INTERVIEWS HERE SENIOR ADVOCATE
OF POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS FOR THE CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL OF COMMUNITY BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH AGENCIES. THANK YOU
PLEASE PROCEED. I'M GOOD
MORNING- I'M JENNIFER ALLEY AT
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION AND THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY ON
THIS IMPORTANT BILL. INTENDED TO
REMOVE BUREAUCRATIC BARRIERS I'M
IN THE PSYCHOLOGIST LICENSING
PROCESS. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO
BE CLEAR THAT AB TWO EIGHTY TWO
DOES NOT DIMINISH NOR REDUCE THE
QUALIFICATIONS TO BECOME A
PSYCHOLOGIST IN CALIFORNIA
HOWEVER IT WOULD ALLOW. PRE
LICENSEES INDIVIDUALS WITH
DOCTORATE DEGREES IN PSYCHOLOGY
TO SELF DETERMINE THEIR
READINESS TO COMPLETE EXPENSIVE
EXAMS REQUIRE THEIR DESIRED
PROFESSION. THIS BILL WAS
DRAFTED IN RESPONSE TO CONCERNS
RAISED BY MANY SITE PSYCHOLOGY
TRAINEES AND THEIR SUPERVISORS
ABOUT EXTENDED WAIT TIMES- FOR
THE LICENSING PROCESS OF
APPLICATIONS AT- THE BOARD OF
PSYCHOLOGY. THIS BILL WILL HELP
TO ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY DELAYS
IN ENTRY TO THE PROFESSION BY
STREAMLINING THE LICENSURE
PROCESS. WHICH CURRENTLY
REQUIRES MULTIPLICATIONS TO THE
BOARD OF PSYCHOLOGY SO WITH EACH
APPLICATION THERE'S A WAIT TIME
IN A PAUSE THAT PROCESS. AND SO
BY ALLOWING OUR APPLICANTS TO
SELF DETERMINE THEIR READINESS
ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR
COURSEWORK THEN THEY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY- TO MOVE. UP TO
TAKE- JOB OPPORTUNITIES REQUIRED
TO COMPLETE THE CLINICAL
TRAINING THANK YOU AND I'M HERE
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE THANK YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE
. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND OF THE
COMMITTEE AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
AGUIAR-CURRY FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE I'M JOHN
CARPENTER SENIOR ADVOCATE WITH
THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL COMMUNITY
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGENCIES CBJ.
ARE NONPROFIT MEMBER AGENCIES
PROVIDE CRITICAL MENTAL HEALTH
AND SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES TO
OVER ONE MILLION CALIFORNIANS
MANY OF WHOM ARE MEDICARE
BENEFICIARIES. AS YOU KNOW
CALIFORNIA FACES SIGNIFICANT
SHORTAGES OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WORSENED BY
LICENSURE BARRIERS THAT PROLONG
THE HIRING PROCESS. THE CURRENT
LICENSING PROCESS CAN TAKE
MONTHS WHICH POSES UNIQUE
CHALLENGES FOR PRACTITIONERS AND
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGENCIES AS A
RESULT OF DELAYED LICENSOR
APPROVAL MANY OF C. BJ'S MEMBER
AGENCIES STRUGGLE HIRING NEW
GRADUATES. IF THEY CHOOSE TO
HIRE SOMEONE WHO IS STILL IN THE
LICENSURE PROCESS THEY CAN'T
BILL FOR THE FULL ARRAY OF
SERVICES. THIS CREATES AN UNDUE
FISCAL BURDEN ON NONPROFITS THAT
ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH AN
INCREDIBLY TIGHT MARGINS. AND
PRESET MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT
RATES AB TWO EIGHT TWO CAN
ALLEVIATE THIS BY PERMITTING
PROFESSIONALS TO APPLY FOR
LICENSURE EXAM SOONER. THE BILL
DOESN'T LOWER OUR RIGOROUS
STANDARDS IT STREAMLINES THEM
ENSURING OUR SAFETY NET DOESN'T
LOSE TALENTED PROFESSIONALS OVER
LENGTHY WAITING PERIODS. THESE
DELAYS ALSO ADVERSELY IMPACT
MEDICARE PATIENTS RESTRICTING
THEIR ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL
SERVICES. THE PASSAGE OF AB TWO
EIGHT TWO WOULD ALLOW US TO HIRE
MORE STAFF SOONER. THEREBY
ENHANCING ACCESS FOR THESE
PATIENTS WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
THE COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT AB TWO
EIGHT TWO. THIS CRUCIAL
LEGISLATION CAN MAKER BE HERE
ALL SAFETY NET MORE ROBUST AND
BETTER EQUIPPED TO SERVE
CALIFORNIA'S VULNERABLE
POPULATIONS. HELP US ENSURE THAT
NO ONE HAS TO WAIT FOR CRITICAL
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU NOW LET'S MOVE TO
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
IN ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SEEING NONE LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION LEAD OR
OTHERWISE. FIRST LEAD WITNESS.
GOOD MORNING MEMBERS I AM
INTERNET STARK WITH THE BOARD OF
PSYCHOLOGY. AND THE BOARD IS-
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. WE'RE
SUGGESTING THE LANGUAGE SAY AS
SPECIFIED BY THE BOARD. AND IN
DOING SO WE WANT TO SPELL OUT
EACH STEP OF THE PROCESS TO MAKE
IT. A VERY TRANSPARENT- PROCESS
FOR THE APPLICANT. AS WELL AS
THE LICENSING ANALYSTS THAT ARE
WORKING ON THE APPLICATION- I
THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE
AS FAR AS- ALLOWING THE
APPLICANTS. TAKE EXAMS EARLIER-
WE HAVE A NATIONAL EXAM WHICH-
IN TWENTY TWENTY SIX WILL BE TWO
PARTS. A. AS KNOWLEDGE BASED
EXAM AND A SKILLS BASED EXAM.
AND THE SKILLS BASED EXAM
ACCORDING TO THIS BILL. WOULD
HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL. APPLY
FORWARD TAKING THAT SKILLS BASED
EXAMPLE FOR THEIR SUPERVISE
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE TAKES
PLACE AND WE JUST DON'T WANT AN
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF A
LOWER PASSAGE RATE ON THAT. SO
WE DO AGREE THAT THE KNOWLEDGE
BASED EXAM SHOULD BE OFFERED
AFTER THE COURSE WORK IS
COMPLETED AS WELL AS THE LAWN
ETHICS EXAM PRIOR TO SEEING
PATIENTS SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE
SAME PAGE IT'S JUST A SLIGHT
TWEAK OF. AS SPECIFIED BY THE
BOARD SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE
SKILLS BASED EXAM IS OFFERED
AFTER THE EXPERIENCE TAKES
PLACE. THANK YOU THANK YOU MA'AM
ANY OTHER WITNESSES. IN
OPPOSITION IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. SO NONE LETS ME TO THE
- ORVIS MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO. AB
TWO EIGHT TWO WILL TAKE THEM NOW
. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AB
TWO EIGHT TWO PLEASE PRESS ONE
ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND MISTER
CHAIR THERE ARE NO COMMENTS.
THANK YOU SIR. TURN THE MATTER
BACK TO THE DAYS OF MY
COLLEAGUES FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. AND QUESTIONS KILLINGS
. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY WELL WE
DON'T HAVE A QUORUM YET BUT WHEN
WE DO WE'LL PUT YOU DOWN CENTER
ARCHULETA IS MAKING THE MOTION.
WE JUST ASK ONE OF ONE QUESTION
OF THE AUTHOR. ANY RESPONSE TO
THE OPPOSITION BY THE- OF THE
BOARD. WELL RIGHT NOW THE MORE
PSYCHOLOGY REQUIRES APPLICANTS
TO COMPLETE THEIR COURSEWORK AND
FIFTEEN HUNDRED CLINICAL HOURS
BEFORE TAKING THEM. AND THIS
BILL ALLOW APPLICANTS TO TAKE
THE EXAM ONCE OF COURSE RECOUP
WORK IS DONE. IN LINE WITH THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF TEST THE
TESTING ORGANIZATION SO WE HAVE
A BIG GAP HERE AND SO MY FEAR IS
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON
MENTAL HEALTH AND WE NEED TO
CLOSE THIS GAP. SO I THINK THAT
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION ON THE BILL. AND I'M
FULLY CONFIDENT WILL COME TO A
GOOD CONCLUSION. AND I'M ALSO
CONFIDENT THAT YOU CONTINUE
TALKING TO THE BOARD IN
PARTICULAR ON THAT. CHANGING THE
EXAM. WITH THE PRACTICAL AS
OPPOSED TO THE ACADEMIC. PIECE
AND- I'M SURE YOU'LL FIGURE IT
OUT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
SURE- MEMBERS YOU KNOW I TOOK
THIS BILL ON FOR A GOOD REASON
FOR MANY GOOD REASONS. BECAUSE
MY OFFICE IS INUNDATED LIKE MANY
OF OUR OFFICES ARE- THEY'VE
GOTTEN CALLS ON THESE THE
LICENSE APPLICANTS. WE'VE LOST
OUT ON JOB OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE
BLESSED TO PROCESS TAKES TOO
LONG IN THE MEANWHILE. I'VE
HEARD DIRECTLY FROM MY
CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE
CHALLENGES OF FINDING CERTIFIED
MENTAL HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS
IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THIS BILL
WILL HELP SOLVE BOTH OF THESE
PROBLEMS BY STREAMLINING THE
CERTIFICATION PROCESS. I AM VERY
COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEGISLATION
ASKING THE BOARD TO IMPROVE THE
PROCESS DURING THE UNIVERSALLY
RECOGNIZED MENTAL HEALTH. CRISIS
IN THE STATE AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR I. RODENTS APPROPRIATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM THANK
YOU HAVE A QUORUM OF VOTE. NEXT
ITEM UP SIDE OF NUMBER THREE
ASSEMBLY BILL. TWELVE OF SEVEN.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IRWIN CANNABIS
LABELING AND ADVERTISING.
GOOD MORNING- MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS LISTED ON PAGE SIX.
OF THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AND
THANKING THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR- HARD WORK ON THIS BILL
I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT AB
TWELVE OH SEVEN. WHEN PROP SIXTY
FOUR WAS PASSED IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN IT WAS A DISTINCT
PROMISE TO THE VOTERS THAT
LEGALIZATION OF RECREATIONAL
CANNABIS WOULD NOT COME. AT THE
EXPENSE OF OUR CHILDREN BUT IN
REALITY THE VERY OFFICE THAT HAS
OCCURRED. POISON CONTROL CENTERS
DUE TO PEDIATRIC CANNABIS
EXPOSURES HAVE SKYROCKETED SINCE
TWENTY SIXTEEN. AND THEY WILL
ONLY CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS
TIME PASSES. IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE CALIFORNIA HAD SEVEN HUNDRED
NINETY THREE CANNABIS EXPOSURE
CALLS TO POISON CONTROL CENTERS
FOR CHILDREN FIVE YEARS OF AGE
AND UNDER. EVERY WEEK IT SEEMS
LIKE WE READ ANOTHER NEWS STORY
ARTICLE WITH THE SAME STORY-
CHILDREN AT SCHOOL ARE
TRANSPORTED TO EMERGENCY THE
EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE THEY AND
THEIR PEERS HAVE CONSUMED
CANNABIS PRODUCTS PRODUCTS. THAT
THEY CONFUSE WITH TRADITIONAL
FOODS DUE TO PACKAGING THAT WAS
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN. MEMBERS
THIS IS HAPPENING IN OUR OWN
DISTRICTS WHILE THE ILLICIT
CANNABIS MARKET IS NO DOUBT
RESPONSIBLE FOR A NUMBER OF
THESE EXPOSURES A SIMPLE LOOK AT
CALIFORNIA'S LEGAL CANNABIS
PRODUCTS SHOWS THAT THEY ARE-
NOT WITHOUT BLAME WE CANNOT
CONTINUE TO ALLOW CALIFORNIA'S
LEGAL CANNABIS MARKET TO
MANUFACTURE PACKAGE AND
ADVERTISE PRODUCTS WITH.
FEATURES THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO
CHILDREN. AB TWELVE OH SEVEN
ADDRESSES THIS EVER INCREASING-
PEDIATRIC CANNABIS EXPOSURE
EPIDEMIC BY CODIFYING AND
STRENGTHENING REGULATIONS ON
WHAT MAKES A CANNABIS PRODUCT
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN. IN
ADDITION IT EXPLICITLY ADDS TO
STATUTE PROHIBITIONS ON THE
MANUFACTURE SALE AND ADVERTISING
OF CANADA'S CANNABIS PRODUCTS
THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN.
WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. IS A WIN
SILVER REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC
HEALTH INSTITUTE AND A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM YOU FORWARD
. PLEASE PROCEED. WELL I THINK
OF. YEAH THEY'VE DÍAS THEY'VE
CHANGED THE RULES ON US. THANK
YOU- THEY START YES MA'AM WITH
YOUR ROTH MEMBERS AND DOCTOR
LYNN SILVER PEDIATRICIAN SENIOR
ADVISER AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH
INSTITUTE AND PROFESSOR AT UCSF.
A. B. TWELVE OH SEVEN ALBEIT
WEAKENED IS BEFORE YOU WITH
SUPPORT FROM CALIFORNIA'S
PEDIATRICIANS YEAR DOCKS CAL PTA
LOS ANGELES SANTA CLARA SAN
DIEGO IN MARIN COUNTY'S CHECK IN
OVER FORTY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
BECAUSE OF TWO. SEVERE AND
GROWING PROBLEMS POISONINGS OF
YOUNG CHILDREN FROM CANNABIS
PRODUCTS HAVE SKYROCKETED
NATIONALLY IN CALIFORNIA. AT
REEDY CHILDREN'S THE AVERAGE AGE
IS JUST TWO AND ONE IN TEN
REQUIRE INTENSIVE CARE EDIBLES
LIKE GUMMIES CANDIES NACHOS WITH
PACKAGING BLATANTLY IMITATING
FOODS COMMONLY MARKETED TO
CHILDREN IS A BIG PART OF THE
PROBLEM. YES PARENTAL
RESPONSIBILITY MATTERS BUT SO
TOO DOES PRODUCT DESIGN SEVERAL
STATES IN CANADA REQUIRE
ENTIRELY PLAIN PACKAGING OF THE
PSYCHOACTIVE PRODUCTS. THE
SECOND AND MASSIVE PRODUCT IS
INCREASES IN CANNABIS USE BY
TEENS AND USE CANNABIS VAPING BY
TWELFTH GRADERS TRIPLED FROM
5215% SINCE TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
DAILY USE BY YOUNG ADULTS HAS
ALSO TRIPLE TURBOCHARGED
CONCENTRATES WITH FLOWER
PICTURES OF SKITTLES CARTOONS
TOYS R. IMITATIONS OF JUNK FOOD.
HOOK KIDS USE IN USE ADVERSELY
IMPACTS COGNITIVE AND ACADEMIC
OUTCOMES DISRUPTS SCHOOLS AND IS
ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASES
DEPENDENCE PSYCHOSIS
SCHIZOPHRENIA AND CAR CRASHES
ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL
ACADEMIES OF SCIENCE. LITTLE IS
WORSE THAN A YOUNG LIFE THROWN
OFF COURSE BY CANNABIS TRIGGERED
PSYCHOSIS CANNABIS HAS VALID
MEDICAL USES BUT IT'S NOT A
WELLNESS PRODUCT. AB TWELVE OH
SEVEN WILL STRENGTHEN THE
DEFINITION OF ATTRACTIVENESS TO
CHILDREN IN MANUFACTURING SALES
MARKETING AND ADVERTISING ALSO
CONSULTANCY BIS METICULOUS
ANALYSIS ASKED SHOULD ADDRESS
ADVERTISERS ARE LICENSEES THE
ANSWER IS BOTH STATES HAVE HAD
TO REWRITE CANNABIS LAWS TO
ADDRESS ADVERTISING SKIRTING
RULES. THROUGH THIRD PARTIES SHE
ASKS IS THIS ILLICIT MARKET
PROBLEM. THIS IS A PROBLEM OF
THE LEGAL. AS YOU SEE IN THE A
HANDOUT THE- AN THE HEMP MARKETS
ALL NEEDED TO. BILL THE MARKET
IS A VALID REASON TO BUILD THIS
FEW WE MARKET. WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE THIS CRITICAL
STEP TO PROTECT CHILDREN THANK
YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ARE THERE
ANY OTHER SUPPORTERS IN ROOM.
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. OH I'M SORRY
NO PROBLEM GOOD MORNING SENATOR
ROTH AND MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
HEARING ME TODAY MY NAME IS ARE
YOU OUR CHANNEL ON A POLICY
ADVOCATE WITH YOU FORWARD. YOU
FORWARD AS A SACRAMENTO BASED
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT
WORKS ON YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE
PREVENTION AND MENTAL HEALTH
HERE IN SACRAMENTO. WE ALSO
SUPPORT A NETWORK OF ABOUT THREE
HUNDRED AND FIFTY YOUTH SERVING
ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE STATE
THAT ORGANIZED ON CANNABIS
POLICY AND YOUTH PREVENTION. A
CONTINUE WAS PART OF MY WORK
INCLUDES INFORMING OTHER
NONPROFIT AND TRIBAL
ORGANIZATIONS OF THE FOR STATE
AGENCY GRANTS THAT ARE FUNDED
THROUGH CANNABIS TAX REVENUES.
IN TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN OUR
ORGANIZATION PLAYED A KEY ROLE
IN WORKING WITH STATE AGENCIES
TO DEVELOP THESE GRANT PROGRAMS
WHICH FIND USE SUBSTANCE ABUSE
AND USE PREVENTION. I BELIEVE
THAT OUR STATE GOVERNMENT
CREATED SUCH GRANT PROGRAMS
BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THE UNIQUE
RISK A LEGALIZED CANNABIS
INDUSTRY WOULD POSE FOR OUR
YOUTH. IT IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE
THAT OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOLLOW
A SIMILAR APPROACH TO PROTECT
YOUNG PEOPLE. SACRAMENTO I HAVE
REPORTED OVER A DOZEN BILLBOARD
TO THE DCC THAT FEATURE YOUNG
PEOPLE CARTOON IMAGES AND EVEN
ONE THAT SPELLED OUT THE WORD
DANK IN GUMMY WORMS. I'M TWENTY
FOUR YEARS OLD AND THIS KIND OF
MARKETING APPEALS TO FOLKS LIKE
MYSELF AND FOCUS THEIR EVEN
YOUNGER. HIGH THC LEVEL PRODUCTS
ARE LEGALLY SOLD WITH PACKAGING
THAT HAS CARTOON IMAGES AND EVEN
ANIMATED FOODS SUCH AS
BLUEBERRIES STRAWBERRIES AND
CHOCOLATE CAKE AS WELL AS AS YOU
HAVE BEFORE YOU OVERWHELMING
LIKENESS TO WELL KNOWN BRANDS.
THAT DON'T HAVE TO GET C. N. OR
OTHERWISE NOT HARMFUL IN THE
SAME WAY. OUR ORGANIZATION ALSO
HAS STAFF THAT WORK IN OUR LOCAL
HIGH SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE SEEING
A WIDESPREAD USE OF FLAVORED
CANDY EDIBLES AS WELL AS
FLAVORED VAPING PRODUCTS AMONG
YOUNG PEOPLE. AS WELL AS- YOUNG
PEOPLE SELF DIAGNOSING IN USING
CANNABIS TO COMBAT STRESS AND
DEPRESSION BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE
THAT IT IS A SAFE AND THAT IS A
WELLNESS PRODUCTS. THIS IS DUE
TO FLAWED MARKETING. VAPE
CONCENTRATES ARE LEGALLY SOLD
PRODUCTS WOULD DANGEROUSLY HIGH
LEVELS OF THC THAT ARE CURRENTLY
BEING USED BY OUR YOUTH AND
YOUNG PEOPLE. IT IS VERY CLEAR
FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SHARED
AS WELL AS DR SILVER THAT THE
CANNABIS INDUSTRY IS MARKETING
TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND NOT BEING
INTENTIONAL ABOUT KEEPING THEM
SAFE FOR THESE REASONS I
STRONGLY ENCOURAGE AN AYE VOTE
TODAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NO ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES NAME AFFILIATION
POSITION ON THE MEASURE PLEASE
MAKE SURE MEMBERS TO MADDEN
REPRESENTED CALIFORNIA CHAPTER
OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS IN SUPPORT
. JOHNSON CLAIMED AFTER THE
COUNTY SAN DIEGANS THAT EVEN
SENATORS AND SUPPORT. IS THIS
ONE ARE THE COUNTY OF MARIN
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU. JOHN COGAN
WITH THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
AND SUPPORT THANKS. GOOD MORNING
ELIZABETH ESPINOSA ON BEHALF OF
THE COUNTY HEALTH EXECUTIVES
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA AS
WELL AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
AND THE COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA
AND SANTA BARBARA THANK. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING RETURN BECAUSE
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CHULA
VISTA AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
LAURIE DO YOU PLAN ON BEHALF OF
BE THE INFLUENCE A CALIFORNIA
NONPROFIT IN MARIN COUNTY I
SUPPORT. TELL C. FERNANDEZ WITH
MORE AND HEALTHY PARTNERSHIPS
AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER SUPPORTERS. MISTER CHAIR
PAMELA LOPEZ WITH K. STREET
CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF STEVIE
I'M A BIT OF A TWEENER IS THERE
AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO COME UP
AND EXPRESSED A NEUTRAL
POSITION. I'M STEVE HE THOUGHT
THAT IT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
TO PREVENTING YOU PROHIBITION ON
25% OF ALL LEGAL PRODUCTS IN THE
MARKET. AND WITH THE A STATUTORY
PROHIBITION REMOVED FROM AB
TWENTY TWELVE A SEVEN ON 25% OF
ALL CANNABIS PRODUCTS. OUT WE
WILL BE IN EXCHANGE DROPPING
OPPOSITION ON THE REST OF THE
BILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE
WE MOVED TO- OPPOSITION I'M
GOING TO ASK- THAT THE ROLE
BECAUSE THAT'S THAT WAS A QUORUM
. HERE BROUGHT HERE WHEN. OF OUR
TO GAIL HERE ARE BROKEN HERE
ARCHULETA THERE ARE TWO LETTER
HERE ASHLEY. BECKER BAKER HERE
DODD EGGMAN GLAZER NERO. HERE
NEAR HERE SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
SMALLER CRITICS HERE WILL HOP.
HOP HERE WALK OKAY UP HERE. WE
HAVE A- NOW LET'S TURN TO. LEAD
OR OTHERWISE LEAD FIRST. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ANY
TANK ON THE OF THE CANNABIS.
ASSOCIATION I WANT TO BEGIN BY
EXPRESSING OUR ORGANIZATIONS
GRATITUDE TO THE COMMITTEE AND
TO THE OFFICE FOR ACCEPTING-
AMENDMENTS WHICH ADDRESS SOME OF
OUR CONCERNS. WE THINK THIS IS A
MUCH IMPROVED BELL WITH THE
PROPOSED CHANGES I PERSONALLY WE
DO CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE
LEGISLATION WELL WE SHARE THE
AUTHORS GOALS OF PROTECTING
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY
VERTICALLY YOU ACCESS TO
CANNABIS. WE CONTINUE TO FIND
SOME OF THE ELEMENTS IN THE
SPELL PROBLEMATIC FOR INSTANCE
WE FIND THE PROHIBITION FROM
USING FICTIONAL OR HUMAN
CHARACTERS. AND FICTIONAL
ANIMALS ARE CREATURES THAT ARE
LABELING IN ADVERTISEMENTS AND
REASONABLE. FOR INSTANCE
NUMEROUS LEGAL CANNABIS
BUSINESSES USE IMAGES OF HUMANS
AND VERY SOPHISTICATED WAYS
SPECIFICALLY TO COMMUNICATE
IMPORTANT CONSUMER INFORMATION
ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE USE OF OUR
PRODUCTS. BY IMPOSING SUCH A
BLANKET STATUTORY PROHIBITION AB
TWELVE OH SEVEN ELIMINATES ANY
DISCRETION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
CANNABIS CONTROL TO EVALUATE
WHETHER THE USE OF HUMANS FOR
EXAMPLE. MAY BE BENEFICIAL AND
COULD ULTIMATELY EXACERBATE
PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS. WE ALSO
DO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT
THIS BILL DOES PUNISH GOOD
ACTORS AND HAVE A DIFFERENT
APPROACH THAT WE ARE PURSUING-
WELL WE DO RECOGNIZE AND UP TECH
IS BASED ON DATA AND EMERGENCY
ROOM VISITS- WE- WE FEEL THAT
THERE'S BEEN A FAILURE TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT THESE ARE LEGAL
PRODUCTS THAT. ARE GETTING
CHILDREN SICK ACCESS TO LEGAL
CANNABIS IS FIERCELY AGE GATED A
STUDY PUBLISHED IN TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY TWO IN A PEER REVIEWED
JOURNAL OF SAFETY. RESEARCH
FOUND THAT 100% OF LICENSE
CALIFORNIA CANNABIS RETAILERS
CHECKED IDEAS TO AVOID SELLING
TO UNDERAGE CONSUMERS. IF YOU
THEY'RE GETTING ACCESS TO LEGAL
CANNABIS PRODUCTS FROM LEGAL
RETAILERS THAT IS NOT A PRODUCT
PROBLEM IT IS AN ENFORCEMENT
PROBLEM. AND I WOULD DO WANT TO
NOTE THAT FLYER THAT WAS
DISTRIBUTED. A LOT OF OUR
EXISTING REGULATIONS THAT ARE
ALREADY ON THE BOOKS ACTUALLY
BANNED THE THOSE IMAGES SO COCOA
PUFFS FOR EXAMPLE WHICH MANY OF
YOU KNOW I'VE ALREADY FILED A
COMPLAINT. AGAINST COCOA PUFFS
THAT IS A LEGAL PRODUCT- IT'S
ALREADY IN VIOLATION- SOME OF
THE CARTOON IMAGES ON THAT FLYER
PURPLE SMART FOR EXAMPLE I'M NOT
SURE THAT'S A LEGAL PRODUCT IT
MAY BE. ALSO A VIOLATION OF OUR
EXISTING REGULATIONS SO WE NEED
TO BE FOCUSED ON BOLSTERING
ENFORCEMENT AND LASTLY I'LL JUST
NOTE THAT THIS COMMITTEE PASSED
A BILL- EARLIER THIS YEAR SB
FIVE FORTY THAT IT ESTABLISHED A
VERY COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW. OF
OUR PACKAGING AND LABELING
REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENTS USING
INFORM SCIENCE AND THAT IS OUR
RECOMMENDED SOLUTION TO TRYING
TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM ON AN
ONGOING BASIS THAT REVIEW WOULD
OCCUR EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO FOR
THESE REASONS WE WANT TO
REITERATE I APPRECIATE ASIAN FOR
THE CHANGES BUT MUST RISK.
CONTINUED OPPOSE THANK YOU THANK
YOU. PLEASE. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MARK SMITH ON
BEHALF OF ORIGINS COUNCIL. WE
ARE THE STATEWIDE ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING EIGHT
HUNDRED CANNABIS OPERATORS. MOST
OF WHOM ARE SMALL OUTDOOR
CANNABIS FARMERS IN RURAL AREAS
OF CALIFORNIA. WE SUPPORT
THOUGHTFUL REGULATION TO
PROHIBIT THE MARKETING OF
CANNABIS PRODUCTS TO CHILDREN.
HOWEVER WE BELIEVE AB TWELVE OH
SEVEN AS WRITTEN. WILL NOT
MEANINGFULLY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
AND WOULD TARGET NATURALISTIC
IMAGERY. USED BY SMALL FARMERS
WHO CULTIVATE CANNABIS IN RURAL
AREAS. IMAGES OF CANDIES
CARTOONS AND OTHER PRODUCTS
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN ARE
ALREADY ADDRESSED IN EXISTING
DCC REGULATION. HOWEVER AB
TWELVE OH SEVENS PROHIBITION
WOULD BE MUCH MUCH BROADER THAN
THIS SPECIFICALLY TWELVE OH
SEVEN WOULD PROHIBIT IMAGES OF
HUMANS FRUITS. VEGETABLES AND
FICTIONAL ANIMALS FROM USE IN
PACKAGING LABELLING AND
ADVERTISING. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN
TWO DIFFERENT SHEETS OURS IS THE
BLACK AND WHITE ONE BUT IT
DEMONSTRATES TO YOU SOME OF
THESE LABELS THAT OUR FARMERS
ARE CURRENTLY USING INCLUDING.
PRODUCTS FROM THE FARM BECAUSE
THEY GROW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES
IN ADDITION TO CANNABIS
DEPICTIONS OF HUMAN AND OR
ANIMALS ON THOSE LABELS I THINK
YOU CAN JUDGE FOR YOURSELF
WHETHER THOSE LABELS AS YOU SEE
THEM IN FRONT OF YOU. ARE
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN OR
DESIGNED TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO
CHILDREN. THE SCOPE AND THE
BREADTH OF THIS BILL WOULD
IMMEDIATELY BAN EVERY LABEL THAT
YOU HAVE ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER
IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THERE IS. A
CONCERN THAT WE HAVE
PARTICULARLY A SMALL FARMERS
WE'RE NOT VERTICALLY INTEGRATED.
WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
MANY OF US ARE STRUGGLING TO
SURVIVE IN THE CURRENT PROP
SIXTY FOUR FRAMEWORK AND GET TO
FULL LICENSURE. THESE LABELS ARE
CREATED WITH ONE TIME PERSONAL
FUNDS IT'S NOT QUITE AS SIMPLE
AS JUST GOING OUT RE DOING YOUR
LABEL. TO COMPLY TO THE
STANDARDS OF A BILL LIKE THIS
PARTICULARLY WHEN DCC ALREADY
HAS BANNED. THE VAST MAJORITY OF
NOT ALL OF THE EXAMPLES GIVEN TO
YOU BY THE PROPONENTS OF THIS
BILL. WE WOULD FURTHER STIPULATE
THAT THOSE PRODUCTS CANNOT BE
FOUND IN THE LEGAL MARKET PLACE
IN CALIFORNIA WE HAVE REPEATEDLY
ASKED FOR EXAMPLES OF WHERE
THOSE PRODUCTS WERE PURCHASED.
AND IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE WE
HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE ARE
SEEKING REMEDIES AGAINST THEM
BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
PRODUCTS YOU SEE THERE. ARE NOT
LEGALLY AVAILABLE ADDED
DISPENSARY GO FOUR BLOCKS OVER
HERE GO LOOK AT THE SHELF THEY
HAVE AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND ANY
OF THOSE PRODUCTS. I CHALLENGE
YOU TO DO THAT. SO WE ARE
CONFUSED WHY AB TWELVE OH SEVEN
IS AS BROAD AS IT IS. CARROTS
RADISHES AND BROCCOLI ARE
TYPICALLY NOT CONSIDERED
PRODUCTS ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN.
SIMILARLY THERE'S NOTHING
INHERENT IN IMAGES OF HUMANS
SUCH AS FARMERS. THAT ARE
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN. BECAUSE
WE DON'T HAVE THIS ACCESS
INVESTMENT CAPITAL AGAIN WE
CONSIDER THIS BILL TO BE
PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING. AND AS
WRITTEN WOULD PROHIBIT DOZENS OF
SMALL FARMER BRANDS THAT UTILIZE
IMAGERY OF FARMS AND FARMERS
WITH DEVASTATING EFFECTS TO
THESE BUSINESSES. WE ASK FOR
YOUR NO VOTE ON THIS MEASURE.
THANK YOU SIR ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE PLEASE. MISTER MEMBERS
RANDY MARTIN ON BEHALF OF THE
PARENT COMPANY WE ALSO
APPRECIATE THE MEMBERS THAT WERE
TAKEN BY THE AUTHOR AND THE
COMMITTEE. ON BUT WE STILL
REMAIN OPPOSED MAKE BASED ON THE
IMAGES OF PROHIBITION IN THE
BILL. I'M ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE
NO ON THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU. NEXT MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
GEORGE MILLER ON BEHALF OF
WEEDMAPS WE WERE- PREVIOUSLY
OPPOSED WITH THE RECENT
AMENDMENTS THOUGH WE ARE NEUTRAL
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE LET'S
TURN TO THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
MODERATE OR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT AN INDIVIDUAL'S WAITING
TO TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
IN OPPOSITION. TO AB TWELVE ZERO
SEVEN WE WILL TAKE THEM NOW. IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AB
TWELVE ZERO SEVEN PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND FIRST
WE WILL HEAR FROM LINE. THIRTY
SIX. SHARE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE SHARING INVOLVED IN ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. LINE. TWENTY FIVE. GOOD
MORNING THAT YOU CAN MEMBERS. OF
THE CITY'S AND MARK THOSE. ON
THE BEACH WITH THE OF THE BILL.
THANK YOU PLEASE. A LINE FIFTY
THREE. I'D THANK WANT MOST THE
COALITION FOR DRUG FREE KIDS. I
AM IN STRONG OF BILL THANK NEXT
PLEASE. LINE THIRTY. GOOD
MORNING JOHNSON BUT BECAUSE LIKE
YOU DIRECTORS YOU CAN WITH
BUSINESSES. ON BEHALF OF YOU CBA
ALONG BEACH THE- BECAUSE HOW.
ALLIANCE NETWORK THE CALIFORNIA
MINORITY AND ASSEMBLED SILICON
VALLEY ALLIANCE. WILL STRUGGLE
AND TEMPERATURES WILL CAN RECORD
LINE. INTO IF AMENDED THE
RECOMMEND CLEARED UP ARE CAR TO
AND THE USE OF REAL AND
FICTIONAL YOU. THANK YOU THANK
YOU NEXT PLEASE. LINE THIRTY
EIGHT. LOGIN WHAT WHAT BILL A
NON HERE. ALONG WITH MIDDLE ONLY
BE TO JAIL FOR CAMEL NO CHILD
BOTH WILL EITHER HE- IT AB VOLVO
THE CAN OF AND FILE EIGHTY ACT
PLEASE WAIT END OF THE MARKET.
PLEASE A LINE. SIXTY THREE. NOW
WE ARE POOR I AM THE MOM Q. BE
SIGNED INTO IT AFTER WAY AND
PART BECAUSE OF HIS CANDIDACY
SUPPORTER AND I STRONGLY. THIS
STUFF. THANK YOU MEMBERS FOR
YOUR LOSS NEXT PLEASE. LINE. ONE
MY TWENTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
NEXT PLEASE. LINE FOURTEEN. YES
HELLO COMMITTEE THIS IS MICHAEL
KATZ EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
MENDOCINO CANNABIS ALLIANCE
REPRESENTING THE OVER A HUNDRED
SMALL LICENSED CANNABIS
BUSINESSES THE MENDOCINO COUNTY
IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
LINE. FORTY MISTER JERRY MEMBERS
ATTY FRANCO DIRECTOR OF POLICY
FOR NAVISTAR REMAINING IN
OPPOSITION FOR REASONS
PREVIOUSLY STATED ON ADVERTISING
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT. LINE.
FIFTY MY FIFTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. NEXT. ONE SIXTY ONE.
THERE IS- YOU KNOW COUNTY
SPECIALTY COTTAGE EQUITY
OPERATOR IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
EIGHTY TWELVE OH SEVEN THANK YOU
THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. LINE
FORTY THIRD. HI THIS IS
ELIZABETH O'DONNELL I'M
REPRESENTING MARIN RESIDENTS FOR
PUBLIC HEALTH CANNABIS POLICY
AND WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
AB TWELVE OH SEVEN THANK YOU
NEXT. LINE. FORTY FOUR. R. FIFTY
FOUR FORTY COLLECTED AND FOR
HEALTH EDUCATOR IN STRONGLY
SUPPORT A. B. TWELVE OH SEVEN
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
. LINE. FIFTY NINE. MORE BUYING
. ONE FIFTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. NINE EIGHT. HELLO RUSSELL
PARENT PARENT FAMILY FARM UNDER
TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT
MEDICAL CANNABIS CARD IN
MENDOCINO COUNTY AND I OPPOSE-
THIS BILL IS TOO BROAD AND
DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
THAT A LOT OF US AREN'T-
CREATING EDIBLES AND- FLOWER ON
ITS OWN DOES NOT CAUSE OVERDOSES
THANK YOU SIR I WOULD- THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. ONLINE. EIGHTEEN HI
I'M LEAGUE OF BAREFOOT IN YOUR
FORMER WITH A TEN THOUSAND FOOT
OUT- IN THE WORKS FARM BRAND BE
BY THIS. AND I'M VERY STRONG UP
. THANK YOU ONE TWO A- THANK YOU
NECKLINE NINETEEN. HELLO MY NAME
IS STACY STRING ON THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR WITH THE SAN MARCOS
PREVENTION COALITION A COALITION
OF CHURCHES BOND FORCING PARENTS
AND YOUTH PREVENTING DRUG USE
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT TWELVE
OH SEVEN. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
LINE FORTY LINE. FORTY SEVEN.
ONE FORTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. THIS IS A BIG GREEN TEAS FROM
THE TRINITY COUNTY AGRICULTURAL
REPRESENTING NEARLY ONE HUNDRED
FAMILY FARMS TO TRINITY COUNTY
YOU STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU NEXT. LINE. FIFTY
EIGHT. HELLO THIS IS ERICA LEARY
WITH THE NORTH PENSION COALITION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. LINE TWENTY NINE. HI MY
NAME IS BART BRIGHT IN BC
CALIFORNIA AND MY SON STARTED
WITH GUMMIES AND- HE ALSO- HAD
MANY EPISODES OF CANNABIS
INDUCED PSYCHOSIS SO WE
DEFINITELY- MY WIFE AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR
NEXT PLEASE. LINE. TWENTY FOUR.
LIKE TWENTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
. NEXT LINE. TWENTY TWO. BY
TWENTY TO PLEASE GO AHEAD. NEXT
WHITE LINE FORTY THREE. H. HELLO
MY NAME IS SPECIALIST WHAT I'M
CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE
L. G. STRATEGIES REPRESENTING
APPROXIMATELY EIGHTY LIKE KERN
AND COMPLIANT CANNABIS PLANT IN
STRONG OPPOSITION AB VOLVO
SEVEN. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
WHY FORTY FIVE. WHICH LEADS TO
MARINE READ FOR PUBLIC HEALTH
CANADA POLICY IN STRONG. THANK
YOU NEXT. LIKE TWENTY THIRTY.
GOOD MORNING HIS INCIDENT CALLED
COMMITTEE MENDOCINO CANNABIS
ALLIANCE ARE ON BRAND OF WHAT
YOU KNOW WOMEN AND YOU GET TO
THE FARMERS STILL DRESSED WOULD
BE FOUND. GLORIA AB TWELVE LOOK
AT A- THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
LINE. THIRTY EIGHT. ONE THIRTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. NEXT LINE
LINE. THIRTY THREE. I'M THIRTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. NEXT LINE
SIXTY NINE. HI MAKING THE ALLEY
THERE ARE MARIN RESIDENTS FOR
PUBLIC HEALTH CAMPUS POLICIES
THAT I AM VERY STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT OF IT THANK YOU THANK
YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE. LINE
SIXTY SIX. GOOD MORNING THIS IS
JUDY DURING ALLEGES SAY THE VICE
PRESIDENT FOR COASTAL
COMMUNITIES PTA AND WE ARE SOME
STRONG SUPPORT OF AB TWELVE OH
SEVEN THANK YOU MA'AM NEXT
PLEASE. LINE FIFTY FOUR. HELLO
THE JUDITH WATER FROM POSSIBLE
LEADER- AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
AB TWELVE OH SEVEN THANK YOU
THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. LIKE.
SEVENTY IN THE RIG OWNER OF
GALACTIC IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY A
SMALL CRAFT CANNABIS. AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU SIR THANKS. LINE. THIRTY
FIVE. FIVE THIRTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. NEXT AND MISTER CHAIR
THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENT
THANK YOU MODERATOR LET'S BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE DAYS OF
MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. CENTER WILL HUB FOR
OVER THIRTY LOW THANK YOU THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD-
GIVEN THE OPPOSITION SOME A
COMMENTARY- AND YOU'VE ALREADY
MADE AMENDMENTS TO FEEL THAT
THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD
BE WILLING TO DO. I AND WE ARE
CERTAINLY HAPPY TO CONTINUE THE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OPPOSITION
WE TOOK SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS
IN- IBM P. AND I JUST WANT TO
CLARIFY SOME OF WHAT HE SAID.
FRUITS ARE ALLOWED ON PACKAGING
AS LONG AS THEY REPRESENTS THE
FLAVORS INSIDE THE PACKAGING SO
TALKING ABOUT BROCCOLI OR
CARROTS IS- SORT OF IRRELEVANT
AND- SO- WE ALSO HAVE THE THESE
THESE- SELLERS WILL IT WOULD
ALSO BE ABLE TO USE REAL
ANIMALS. AND FLOWERS BUT NOT
CARTOON ANIMALS SUCH AS UNICORNS
SO THERE IS THERE'S BEEN IT'S
REALLY TRYING TO THREAD A NEEDLE
BUT WE ARE- EVERY TIME WE TAKE
AMENDMENTS AND PEOPLE SAY
THEY'LL REMOVE THEIR OPPOSITION
SOME REMOVED THEIR OPPOSITION
AND THEN SOME CONTINUE I THINK
THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT THAT- A
LOT OF THE INDUSTRY WAS
CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE VAPES
AND- BEYOND. ALTHOUGH ALL OUR
SUPPORTERS REALLY WANTED TO.
KEEP THE VAPES ISSUE- AS PART OF
THE BILL WE DID REMOVE THAT IN
THIS COMMITTEE SO IT'LL BE AN
ONGOING CONVERSATION BUT WHEN
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT YOU
KNOW. LOOKING AT IT- SHOWING A
THE DIFFERENT PACKAGE THAT YOU
ALREADY USE AND SAY WELL WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE YOU AND ALAN. OF NO
MAYBE WE WILL LOOK AT THAT BUT
CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
HUMANS COULD BE USED TO- MARKET
TO CHILDREN IF YOU PUT HANNAH
MONTANA OR SOME. SOCIAL MEDIA
INFLUENCER ON THE PACKAGE SO IF
WE WANT IF WE REALLY WANT TO
TALK ABOUT YOU WANT TO PUT
FARMERS WE WILL LOOK AT PUTTING
FARMERS ON THE PACKAGING SO.
LIKE I SAID THIS IS THIS IS
REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S ABOUT
THREADING THE NEEDLE THE OTHER
THING I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE
OF THINGS IS. IS FIRST OF ALL IF
THE- WE HAVE SENT PICTURES THAT
WERE COLLECTED BY DR SILVER.
MOST OF YOU SHOULD HAVE THOSE
AND THOSE WERE FROM LEGAL
DISTRIBUTORS IF EVERYBODY IS
COMPLYING ALREADY. WITH GOOD
REASON OTHER ALREADY REGULATIONS
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CODIFYING
AND STRENGTHENING THE
STRENGTHENING THEM IF THE LEGAL
MARKET IS COMPLYING WITH THEM
THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE THAT
CONCERNED- WITH THIS BILL. AND
THEN FINALLY- I SENT MOST OF YOU
A GRAPH THAT SHOWED. THE
POISONINGS OF YOUNG CHILDREN.
COINCIDE THAT THE HUGE INCREASE
OF POISONINGS COINCIDED EXACTLY
WITH WHEN THE MARKET BECAME
LEGAL SO. I GUESS SOME OF IT
COULD BE ILLICIT AND SOME OF IT
COULD BE LEGAL BUT I THINK IT IS
REALLY TO BE- SAFER IN. A IN
THIS INSTANCE. YOU KNOW AS WE'VE
SAID MANY TIMES PROP SIXTY FOUR.
PROMISE THAT WE WOULDN'T BE
MARKETING TO CHILDREN AND I
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT
WE STRENGTHEN. THE LEGAL MARKET
THAT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE
DO ENFORCEMENT IS SO I DO
APPRECIATE THAT NOW- I
APPRECIATE WITH THE INTENT OF
THIS BILL RATES- OBVIOUSLY TO
PROTECT CHILDREN AND MAKE SURE
THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT.
CATERING- TO. INTEREST OF IF YOU
WILL I IN TO THE FANCY LABELING
AND SO FORTH- I DO HAVE A COUPLE
OF A CANNABIS DISPENSARIES IN MY
DISTRICT- THROUGHOUT THE
DISTRICT IN FACT- ONE OF THEM
OBVIOUSLY BEING COOKIES- THAT.
THE NAME ITSELF IS VERY MUCH.
INTERESTING TO CHILDREN RIDE-
AND SO- WE HAVE STRICT IN IN
THAT PARTICULAR CITY WE HAVE
STRICT. GUIDELINES IF FOR
EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE TO PURCHASE
A PRODUCT IN THE BACK HAS TO BE
COMPLETELY OPAQUE. AND NOT SEE
THROUGH- THAT THE WINDOWS HAVE
TO BE A CERTAIN WAY- OF THE
BUILDING AND SO MUCH MORE RATE-
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS YOU
GET TO YOUR POINT THREADING THE
NEEDLE OF MARKETING AND
ADVERTISING AND YOU KNOW BEING.
NICE LOOKING VERSUS ALSO
PROTECTING THE INTEREST OF KIDS
AND MAKING SURE THAT- THIS
PRODUCT IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF
KIDS SO- I DO APPRECIATE IT I DO
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I THINK
THAT. YOU KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO BE
ABLE TO MARKET HOW THEY WANNA
MARKET AND YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE A
TOUGH JOB AND MAKING SURE THAT.
WERE FAIR TO ALL SIDES- SO WHEN
APPROPRIATE I WILL MOVE THE BILL
AND I DO THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST
TALKING TO OPPOSITION AND TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT HOW. WHERE THAT
LINE IS THANK YOU THANK YOU
SENATOR CERTAINLY LOOK. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR. I'M BEGINNING
TO THINK THAT THE SENATE. MAYBE
THE ASSEMBLY TO. SHOULD
ESTABLISH A SEPARATE COMMITTEE
JUST TO HEAR CANNABIS BILLS. A
THIRD OF OUR OUR HEARING ITEMS
TODAY. RELATE TO CANNABIS I
DON'T THINK THAT I'VE ATTENDED
A. B. AND P. OR JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE MEETING YET. THAT
DIDN'T HAVE AT LEAST ONE
CANNABIS BUILT ON IT. WE
CONTINUE TO CHASE OUR TAIL TO
TRY TO MAKE A HORRIBLE
PROPOSITION. BETTER AND ALL
ALONG THE WAY THE A LOOK AT THE
ILLEGAL MARKET GET STRONGER. AND
THE LEGAL MARKET GETS WEAKER. SO
IT. IT'S VERY HARD. THE
APPEARANCE OF NOT SUPPORTING
THIS BILL. WOULD SEEM TO BE THAT
ONE IS FAVOR IS IN FAVOR OF
MARKETING TO CHILDREN- THAT-
COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE
TRUTH BECAUSE- EXISTING LAW
PROHIBITS- PACKAGES ATTRACTIVE
TO OR MARKETING TO CHILDREN. AND
I'LL- COME BACK TO THAT IN A
MOMENT. BUT YOU INDICATE THAT
THE INCREASE IN- THE INCIDENTS
OF CHILDREN. REPORTING EMERGENCY
ROOMS HAPPENED WITH THE PASSAGE
OF PROP SIXTY FOUR. NOW I DIDN'T
KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE CASE AND
ALL ACCEPTED AT FACE VALUE. BUT
THERE COULD BE A DIFFERENT
REASON FOR THAT. THE ILLEGAL
MARKET WAS STRONG BEFORE SIXTY
FOUR. SIXTY FOUR WAS PASSED
ANYBODY IN THE ILLEGAL MARKET
THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BE PART OF
THE LEGAL MARKET WOULD HAVE TO
ASSESS THEIR MARKETING STRATEGY.
I MEAN. THESE ARE SMART FOLKS
AND THEY HAVE CONTINUED. TO
BECOME STRONGER AS WE HAVE- AND
SINCE PROP SIXTY FOUR WAS PASSED
IN THE LEGAL MARKET CONTINUES TO
BE WORK WEAKER COULD IT BE THAT
THE ILLEGAL MARKET DECIDED THAT
THAT WAS A MARKET THAT THEY
WANTED TO GO AFTER BECAUSE THEY
COULD SEE THAT THE REGULATIONS
PROHIBITED SUPPOSEDLY THE
ILLEGAL MARKET FROM. PURSUING SO
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD SAY
WITH ANY DEGREE OF CERTAINTY
THAT THE EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS
ARE BECAUSE OF THE LEGAL-
VENDORS AS OPPOSED TO THE
ILLEGAL THAT. AND I'D SUGGEST AS
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS SAYS THE
ILLEGAL MARKET DEFINITELY GOES
AFTER THAT MARKET. THE LEGAL
MARKET ISN'T SUPPOSED TO NOW FOR
. THESE IMAGES. MOST OF THEM. BY
THE LANGUAGE OF THE REQUIREMENT
IN PRAGUE EXISTING LAW PROP
SIXTY FOUR IN EXISTING LAW. ARE
ILLEGAL. NOW WHY ARE THEY BEING
MARKET. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
ENFORCING IT NOW. WILL THIS BE
IMPROVED. BY MORE SPECIFICALLY
DEFINING. WHAT IS ILLEGAL
PACKAGING. OR THROUGH BETTER
ENFORCEMENT. AND I WOULD SUGGEST
THAT A LOT OF THE PROBLEM IS IT
WITH IT IS NOT AS PEOPLE HAVE
SAID IT'S TOO BROAD BUT BECAUSE
IT'S TOO SPECIFIC. IN THAT WHICH
IT DOESN'T ALLOW AND THAT
CREATES CONFUSION. THE MERE
PHRASE- DO NOT MARKET PRODUCTS
DIRECTLY TO CHILDREN AND
PRODUCTS THAT WOULD APPEAR TO BE
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN I FAIL TO
SEE WHAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH
THAT IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE-
FURTHER- DEFINE. SO I FIND IT
VERY DIFFICULT TO SUPPORT THIS
EVEN THOUGH AS I SAID JUST
LOOKING AT A VOTE HE- NINE YES
VOTE WHETHER IT'S ABSTAINED OR
NO- WOULD APPEAR THAT THAT
INDIVIDUAL DOESN'T HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH MARKETING TO
CHILDREN NOTHING CAN BE FURTHER
FROM THE TRUTH. EXISTING LAW
PROVIDES THAT AND AS IS WITH MY
A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION I THINK
THIS BILL- ACTUALLY FURTHER
CONFUSES THINGS. THANK YOU.
SEVEN ZERO ZERO THREE. YEAH I
THINK YOU THINK THANKS FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD
CINNAMON IRWIN I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT I. FOR THE
RECORD WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED
LEAVING THE VAPE ST WE- BANNED
FLAVORED VAPES IN THE CITY OF
SACRAMENTO AND- LIKE MY
COLLEAGUES. THIS IS A SENATOR
BOB I THINK MAYBE BECAUSE WE
COME FROM THE LOCAL WORST WERE
REALLY ACCUSTOMED TO DEALING
WITH. ON A RELATED ISSUES RIGHT
NOW IT'S REALLY DOMINATED THE-
DIALOGUE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TWO
FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT
. YOU KNOW WHAT CAN BE MARKETED
WHAT HOW DO WE MARKET IN I WOULD
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHY
DOES IT NEED FURTHER-
EXPLANATION- FOR THE RESTRICTION
IS PRETTY CLEAR- SO I APPRECIATE
THAT YOU BROUGHT IT FORWARD I
COULD SEE WHERE THERE MIGHT.
STILL BE SOME ROOM TO TALK
AROUND THE HUMAN ISSUE MAYBE
SOME ADULTS MAYBE FARMER
SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUR FAMILY
MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE A- YOU KNOW
THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR MARKETING
THAT SOMEBODY HAS THE LIKENESS
OF A FAMILY MEMBER OR THE FARMER
WHATEVER I COULD SEE WHERE THERE
MIGHT STILL BE SOME DISCUSSION
THERE FOR YOU. BUT OTHERWISE I
THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
SOLID BILL IT'S LIKE IT'S A
WHOLE NEW INDUSTRY. WE'RE TRYING
TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH IT I AM
SURE FOR YEARS TO COME THAT THE
LEGISLATURE WILL GRAPPLE WITH
TRYING TO FIND EXACTLY THE RIGHT
BALANCE BUT- I AM MARRIED TO AN
EMERGENCY ROOM TRAUMA NURSE. IN
THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY CHILDREN
WHO. INGEST BY THESE PRODUCTS
BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE GUMMY
BEARS OR A BROWNIE AND IT LOOKED
LIKE IT WAS PACKAGE FOR KIDDO
AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANY
DIFFERENT. THEY GET REALLY SICK
SO. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT
KIDS AND TO GUIDE THE INDUSTRY
IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE
SUCCESSFUL. WITHOUT THERE BEING
CASUALTIES TO THEIR SUCCESS.
THANK YOU CENTERS CENTER BAKER.
I THINK THE AUTHOR AS WELL FOR.
BRING THIS FORWARD WORKING ON
THIS TOPIC I THINK IT IS. VERY
VERY IMPORTANT AND AS YOU SAID
THERE IS A LINE AND I APPRECIATE
YOU. ANY BUT A LOT OF THOUGHT
AND MY DISCUSSION- ABOUT WHAT
THAT LINE IS SONORA HOBSON AND-
AND- IN SOUNDS LIKE A SMOKER TO
SMOKE FOR BY TWENTY THANK YOU
FOR CONGESTION. OF THE SPORT
BILL TODAY. THANK YOU SENATOR
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
. SEEING NONE. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
OR WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
THIS RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
I. THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION ON
A. B. TWELVE ZERO SEVEN THE MOVE
BILL'S BEEN MOVED BY CENTER WILL
HAVE THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. BROUGHT BY BY FIVE WHEN OF
OUR TO GO. ARCHULETA ARCHULETA I
CASH B. AS I BAKER. BAKER I DODD
. EGGMAN GLAZER. NEAR MILANO
SMALLER. BOB BOB I. OKAY KERN
VOTE IS A SIX TO ONE WILL HOLD
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. I
AM NUMBER FOUR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PATTON. A. B. EIGHT NINE THREE
PERSONAL VEHICLE SHARING
PROGRAMS. AND BEFORE YOU START
SOME MEMORY JUST WANNA THANK YOU
FOR WORKING. SO DILIGENTLY WITH
COMMITTEE STAFF ON THIS BILL.
THANK YOU CHAIR. IT SHOULD BE
WITH YOU HERE THIS MORNING- I
WANTED STARBUCKS SIPPING THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO FURTHER
CLARIFY. CUSTOMER FACILITY
CHARGES AT AIRPORTS CHARGE AND
THEY WILL BE- SUCH THAT THEY
WILL BE RELATED TO THE EXTENT TO
WHICH THE VEHICLE SHARING
PROGRAM USES THE INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT ARE THE ADDAMS. CUSTOMER
FACILITIES INDIVIDUAL AIRPORT SO
THIS BILL IS SIMPLY ABOUT
REQUIRING BUSINESSES TO RESPECT
GOVERNING AUTHORITIES AND
CONTRIBUTE TO THE PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE FROM WHICH THEY
MAKE A PROFIT OVER THE PAST
FIFTEEN YEARS NEW BUSINESSES
HAVE EMERGED AS DISRUPTORS
FORCING CHANGE AND ADAPTATION.
IN THE CURRENT SPACE PEER TO
PEER PLATFORMS ARE NEW AVENUE
FOR CAR OWNERS TO RENT THEIR
PRIVATE VEHICLES TO CONSUMERS
WHILE THE TRANSACTIONS ARE
SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF
A TRADITIONAL RENTAL CAR COMPANY
THE END RESULT IS THE SAME A
CONSUMER ENDS UP RENTING A CAR.
IN FACT KILLED THE CALIFORNIA
COURT OF APPEAL HELD IN A RECENT
CASE INVOLVING TUROW THE MAIN-
COMPANY IN THIS SPACE. A THEY
SET A SPOT BECAUSE THERE IS NO
DISPUTE THE TUROW'S ENTIRE
BUSINESS CONSISTS OF ENABLING
THE PUBLIC TO RENT MOTOR
VEHICLES. UNLIKE TRADITIONAL CAR
RENTAL COMPANIES PEER TO PEER
RENTALS DO NOT CURRENTLY IT HERE
TO AIRPORT REGULATION
UNPERMITTED SHARING A PERSONAL
VEHICLE PLATFORMS AT AIRPORTS
HAS LED TO A MYRIAD OF ISSUES
INCLUDING VEHICLES LEFT
ABANDONED OR WAITING A TERMINAL
AREAS FOR A LENGTHY PERIOD OF
TIME. INCREASE TRAFFIC TO
CONGESTION. AND A LOSS OF
REVENUE. REVENUE WHICH IS
CRITICAL TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC
ERIC AIRPORTS DON'T TRAIN
TAXPAYERS EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY
TERMINALS. CARMAX YOU NAME IT.
YOU AND I THE TAXPAYER PAY TO
KEEP AIRPORTS GOING IN THIS
ISN'T A NEW ISSUE RIDE SHARING
WITH COMPANIES SUCH AS UBER AND
LIFT CHARTED A SIMILAR COURSE
ALMOST A DECADE AGO. RATHER THAN
BY BY AIRPORT AUTHORITY THEY
ALLOWED THEIR HOSTS TO CONTINUE
AIRPORT OPERATIONS AND JUST
ABSORBED THE TICKETS AND THE
FINES AIRPORTS WERE GIVING OUT.
THEY DID SO UNTIL THEY WERE
COMPELLED TO OBTAIN A FORMAL
AIRPORT PERMIT HISTORY REPEATS
ITSELF AND WE'RE HERE AGAIN.
SOME PEER TO PEER OPERATORS ARE
ABSORBING THE AIRPORT FINES
IMPOSED ON THEIR HOST RATHER
THAN OBTAINING AN AIRPORT PERMIT
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
THAT CAN NO LONGER GO
UNADDRESSED. HERO LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT ALL THE OTHER
COMMERCIAL ACTORS ARE REQUIRED
TO HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE FLOWER
SHOP TO THE RENTAL CAR TO THE
COFFEE SHOP TO OVER TO LIFT TO
TAXIS. EVERYBODY GETS A PERMIT
FROM AN AIRPORT IT'S A PUBLIC
FACILITY FROM WHICH THEY PROFIT
. AND BEFORE INTRODUCED MY
WITNESS I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT
WHAT THE BILL DOES AND DOESN'T
DO AB EIGHT NINE NINETY THREE
WILL REQUIRE. WHAT FORMS TO
OBTAIN AIRPORT PERMIT PRIOR TO
JULY ONE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR SO
WE'RE EXTENDING OUT THE TIME TO
COMPLY TO ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
AB EIGHT NINETY THREE DOES NOT
REQUIRE MANDATORY- CUSTOMER
FACILITY CHARGES AS I MENTIONED
AT THE BEGINNING IT WILL BE
BASED ON- THE PROPORTIONATE USE
AB EIGHT NINETY THREE WILL
REQUIRE PEER TO PEER PLATFORMS.
I CONTRIBUTED CALIFORNIA'S
TOURISM MARKETING PROGRAMS FROM
WHICH THEY BENEFIT. AND ABA
NINETY THREE DOES NOT REGULATE
NEIGHBORHOOD OPERATIONS A PEER
TO PEER PLATFORMS AB EIGHT
NINETY THREE ENSURES THAT THE
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE IS NOT
PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS IN AN
INDUSTRY. THROUGH APPLYING
REGULATIONS TO ONE BUSINESS AND
NOT ANOTHER. CELL WITH ME TODAY
I HAVE JIM LITES WHO IS FROM THE
CALIFORNIA AIRPORTS COUNCIL OR
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
PRESS COUNCIL. AS MY FIRST WITH.
STREAMLINING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL- ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA AIRPORTS COUNCIL.
COMPRISED OF THE THIRTY ONE
COMMERCIAL AIRPORTS IN THE
STATE. THIS BILL WILL FINALLY
MOVE PEER TO PEER CAR SHARING
TOWARDS- HAVING PERMITS AT ALL
AIRPORTS IN CALIFORNIA WHERE
THEY OPERATE WE'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU SIR.
NEXT WITNESS IN SUPPORT. I HAVE
MITCH STEIGER OF THE LABOR FED.
HIS DAGGER PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
MISTER CHAIRMAN STAFF MITCH
SNIDER WITH CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION ALSO IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL FOR ALL THE REASONS
STATED BY THE AUTHORED PREVIOUS
WITNESS BUT- ALSO WANTED TO
REALLY FOCUS ON FROM THE WORKER
PERSPECTIVE. OUR BELIEF THAT
THIS BILL IS REALLY ABOUT
FAIRNESS THAT FOR OUR MEMBERS IN
THIS INDUSTRY ALL OF WHICH ARE
USED TO BE WHEN I SCREAM REAL
CARS AS A MEMBER OF TEAMSTERS
ONE SEVENTEEN. WHEN WE WOULD GO
TO NEGOTIATE WITH OUR EMPLOYER.
OVER WAGES BENEFITS AND WORKING
CONDITIONS TO TRY TO WIN BACK
MORE OF THE WEALTH THAT WE
CREATED. THERE'S LESS OF IT
THERE FOR US BECAUSE OUR
EMPLOYER HAD TO PAY FOR THINGS
LIKE SALES TAX AS THEY SHOULD
HAVE TO SUPPORT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT. ALLOWS THIS
INDUSTRY TO CONTINUE THAT PACE
FOR THE ROADS IN THE UTILITIES
AND- THE BUILDINGS IN THE SAFETY
AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY RELY
ON. AND WHILE THIS BILL DOESN'T
GO ALL THE WAY TOWARDS LEVELING
THE PLAYING FIELD WE THINK IT
TAKES A MAJOR STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION BY. REQUIRING THE
QUESTION TO BE ASKED BY
REQUIRING THAT CERTIFICATION TO
HAPPEN. SO THAT WE DO MAKE SURE.
THAT THIS INDUSTRY DOES KIND OF
MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND THAT
THE ONE THAT DOES SUCCEED. IS
THE ONE THAT DOES THE BEST JOB
PROVIDING THE SERVICE RATHER
THAN THE ONE. THAT HAS FOUND A
WAY TO AVOID AS MANY
RESPONSIBILITIES AS POSSIBLE
LIKE PAYING SALES TAX. AND FOR
THOSE REASONS WE ORDER SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NAME
AFFILIATION POSITION ON THE
MEASURE PLEASE. REMEMBER NICK
ROBBIE AFTER SAN DIEGO AIRPORT
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
. THE MORNING JOHN MOFFETT ON
BEHALF OF ENTERPRISE AND SPORT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. NOW LET'S TURN TO OF
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION LEADER
OTHERWISE IF ANY. GOOD MORNING
SHARON MEMBERS ADLER SAID
CESSPIT S. REPRESENTING TUROW-
WE WANT I THINK THE AUTHOR AND
HER STAFF- THE CHAIRMAN THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THEIR
STAFF WE WILL BE REMOVING OUR
OPPOSITION FROM THE BILL. WITH
THE AMENDMENTS- THAT WERE
SUGGESTED BY THIS COMMITTEE ON
BEHALF OF THE NINETEEN THOUSAND
HOSTS THAT SHARE THEIR VEHICLE
ON THEIR PLATFORM- WE LOOK
FORWARD TO GETTING. MORE OF THAT
JUST SIX PERMITS THAT WE HAVE
AIRPORTS- AS YOU KNOW OUR HOSTS
ALSO HAVE. OTHER DUTIES
INCLUDING HAVING CARRIED THREE
TIMES INSURANCE AT HAVING TO
PLAY SALES TAX ON VEHICLES OUT
TAX ON THEIR VEHICLE ON THEIR
VEHICLES- AND WE THINK THAT
THIS. BILL REPRESENTS A MODEST A
COMPROMISE FOR US TO THINKING.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE OF STERN
THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANYONE ANYONE WAITING ON
THE TELECONFERENCE OR WAS TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO. ASSEMBLY BILL
EIGHT NINE THREE WILL TAKE THEM
NOW. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO AB EIGHT NINE THREE PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND
THE FIRST WE WILL HEAR FROM LINE
SIXTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. MILLIONS
OF MONEY CALIFORNIA TRAVEL
ASSOCIATION STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. AND
NEXT WE WILL HEAR FROM LINE
TWENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE NEED
TALKING WITH THE FACT THAT WE
REMOVED OUR OPPOSITION AND ARE
NOW THE TROLL BASED ON
AMENDMENTS TAKEN TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR STAFF THEIR TIRELESS WORK
ON THEMSELVES THANK YOU THANK
YOU NEXT PLEASE. MISTER CHAIR
THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS AT
THIS TIME GREAT. BRING THE
MATTER BACK TO THE DAYS FOR ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY MY
COLLEAGUES AND- SENATOR WHAT HUB
. THANK YOUNG- SO ASSEMBLY
MEMBER I DO APPRECIATE THIS- I
SERVED ON OUR AIRPORT COMMITTEE
WHEN I WAS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
AND- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS
THAT- AIRPORTS IN THEIR FUNDING
STRUCTURE IS COMPLETELY ISOLATED
THEY ARE UNABLE TO- BRING IN
MORE MONEY FROM AND WHETHER
IT'S- THE GENERAL FUND OR MOVE
MONEY. OUT AND THEY HAVE A LOT
OF UPKEEP IT HAS TO BE HELD AT A
VERY HIGH STANDARD- FOR THE FEDS
AND SO FORTH SO IT'S VERY
COMPLICATED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
DON'T REALIZE THAT- THESE THESE
FUNDS ACTUALLY USUALLY IN A
DEFICIT. RIGHT AND- I KNOW THAT
WE UPHOLD OUR AIRPORT OUT OF
THAT DEFICIT THROUGH SOME.
MODERNIZATION IF YOU WILL RATE
AND I THINK THAT- YOUR BILL HERE
ALSO HELPS IN REGARDS TO NOT
ONLY HELPING THE CONSUMER BEING
ABLE TO. MOVE APPROPRIATELY BUT
ALSO ON ENSURING THAT THERE IS
SOME TYPE OF. A FUNDING SOURCE
THAT IS EVOLVING FOR THESE
AIRPORTS AND SO FORTH SO- I'M
VERY HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL AND
I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON
THIS THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. ACTUALLY
CENTER WEBSTER ARCHULETA BEACH
TO THE MOTION BUT- HALF. SEEING
NONE ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE I THANK YOU CHAIR
JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN AYE
VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION MOVED BY
SENATOR ARCHULETA THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS PLEASE. CALL THE
ROLL. OFF TRUCK I WENT. OVER TO
KILL. HI OF ARGO AI ARCHULETA
AYE PARTULA AYE ASHBY AYE ASHBY
AYE BECKER AYE BAKER AYE DODD.
EGGMAN GLAZER NAY LOW. MILLER I
SMALL CREVICE I. AGREE WITH I
WILL HAN. BOB I WILL I WILL DIE
. THE BILL HAS NOT VOTES HOLDER
OPEN FOR UP TO MEMBERS. THE LIST
YOU THOUGHT WE WOULD NOT READ TO
K. IN THIS COMMITTEE WERE
RETURNING TO CANNABIS WITH ITEM
NUMBER FIVE A. B. ELEVEN SEVENTY
ONE ASSEMBLY MEMBER RUBIO.
CANNABIS PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION
. YOU MISTER SENATOR AND- MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS AYE I AM. HERE
TO PRESENT ANOTHER CANNABIS BILL
AB ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE WHICH
WOULD EMPOWER THE LICENSE
CANNABIS MARKET. TO SEEK
INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST
UNLICENSED OPERATORS. I WANT TO
BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS AND THINK
THAT YOUR AND HIS STAFF FOR
THEIR ASSISTANCE IN ENSURING THE
MEASURE MEETS. ITS INTENDED GOAL
OVER THE YEARS MYSELF AND MANY
OTHERS ARE PRESENT THE PRESENT
HERE HAVE SPONSORED SUPPORTED
AND ADVOCATED FOR ADDITIONAL
FORCE MEANT AGAINST ILLICIT
OPERATORS IN THE CANNABIS
MARKET. UNFORTUNATELY THE
ILLICIT MARKET HAS CONTINUED TO
GROW DESPITE THE ADDITIONAL
FORSMAN STEPS WE HAVE TAKEN IN
THE PAST YEARS. THERE ARE
SEVERAL CLIP CLEAR INDICATORS OF
THE TOLL THAT IT'S TAKING ON
LICENSED OPERATORS CURRENTLY
FOUR OUT OF FIVE CANNABIS
PURCHASES MADE IN CALIFORNIA ARE
MADE TO ON THE ILLICIT MARKET.
IN MAY TWENTY TWENTY TWO THERE
WERE CLOSE TO FIFTEEN HUNDRED
BRANDS IN THE MARKET LESS THAN A
YEAR LATER ONLY ABOUT ONE
THOUSAND REMAIN. THIS HAS LED TO
THE LARGEST MULTI STATE
OPERATORS CHARACTERIZING
CALIFORNIA'S OPERATING
CONDITIONS AS QUOTE BRUTAL AND
THE INVESTMENT CLIMATE AS QUOTE
A HOSTILE THIS IS IN THIS IN
TURN DEVASTATES THE UNIONIZED
WORK FIRST OF LICENSE OPERATORS
ARE REDUCES THE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR WORKERS IN THE SPACE OF THE
LEGAL BUSINESSES LEAVE THE
STATE. AS SUCH IT IS CLEAR IT IS
CLEAR UNIQUE STEPS MUST BE TAKEN
TO FURTHER EMPOWER. THE LOCAL
MARKET AB ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE
PROVIDES THAT THAT UNIQUE
SUPPORT BY SIMPLY EMPOWERING
LICENSE OPERATORS TO SEEK.
INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST NON
LICENSED OPERATORS. AS YOU KNOW
ALL OR MANY OF YOU DO NOT GO I
PERSONALLY DO NOT TAKE THIS.
TYPE OF LEGISLATION LIGHTLY AND
I'M SURE I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE
EVER EVEN SUPPORTED ABOUT WITH
THE METHOD. THIS METHOD FOR
SMITH HOWEVER OVER THE YEARS
IT'S BECOME ABUNDANTLY CLEAR
THAT THE PRESSURES ARE EXISTING
ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS PUT. ON
THE ILLICIT MARKET ARE NOT
SUFFICIENT. THIS MEASURE SIMPLY
AN TOOL TO. OF PRESS ON THE
OPERATOR. WHILE EITHER ANCHOR
THEM TO SEEK A LICENSE OR LEAVE
THE MARKET TO LEGAL OPERATORS.
AMENDMENTS TAKEN TODAY AND SURE
THIS PROCESS IS NOT ABUSED WHILE
STILL RETAINING A SIGNIFICANT
PENALTY. TO DETER BAD ACTORS AB
ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE IS A UNIQUE
SOLUTION TO AN INCREDIBLY
COMPLEX PROBLEM. AND AS SUCH HAS
OPPOSITION EVEN GARNERING
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN THE
ASSEMBLY- WOULD LIKE TO ALSO-
COMING ON- ASSEMBLY MEMBER I'M
SORRY SENATOR NEAL IS COMING. UP
I KNOW YOU WORK I KNOW YOU WERE
JUST THIS MORNING I WAS HAVING
THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT
WE'RE DOING IS REALLY NOT
WORKING OUT YOU KNOW ONE. ONE
POLICY MEASURE AT THE TIME
DOESN'T HELP WE NEED TO COME UP
WITH A COMPREHENSIVE- GROUP IF
YOU WELL- WITH THE MULTIPLE.
AVENUES TO SUPPORT- THE LEGAL A
MARKET. WITH ARMY TODAY. ODD TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE BIRTH
OF THEIR VEHICLE ON BEHALF OF
THE SAN DIEGO IMPERIAL COUNTY
JOHN JOINT LABOR MANAGEMENT
COMMITTEE THANK YOU. MR THREE GO
PROCEED. WELL GOOD GOOD MORNING
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE-
OBERNOLTE MAP OF THE STATE OF
THE AUTHOR MEANT THE JOINT
MEASURE COMMITTEE. FOR CANNABIS
IN SAN DIEGO IMPERIAL COUNTY AND
ALSO ON THE UP UNITED FOOD AND
COMMERCIAL WORKERS. WESTERN
STATES COUNCIL BOTH SPONSORS OF
THE BILL. AS MENTIONED BY THE
SERVER RUBIO AND EARLIER BY
SENATOR NEAL MY FORMER
COLLEAGUE- ILLICIT MARKET IS
OVER RUNNING THE LEGAL MARKET.
AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED
TO BE DONE. SENATE ROTH TO LIVE
AT THE SAME CONVERSATIONS WILL.
LONG VOTER STAFF OTHER MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE. THE PROBLEM
BIG FOR FROM HARPER IS THAT. THE
ILLICIT OPERATORS DON'T PAY
TAXES THEY DON'T GET LICENSE
THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES. AND
THAT'S A- TERRIBLY DETRIMENTAL
IMPACT ON THE LICENSE OPERATORS.
IN IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
LET'S UPPERS ARE UNIONIZED THE
PAY HIGHER WAGES. OFFER MORE
BENEFITS IT'S EVEN HARDER. SO WE
THINK THIS IS A VERY STREAMLINED
APPROACH THE BILL HAS CHANGED
AS- FROM WHEN IT WAS INTRUSIVE
ALTHOUGH TO. I THINK IT'S A VERY
GOOD PLACE TODAY. OF THERE'S
GREAT NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT
HAVE TO BE MET FIRST OF ALL IT'S
THE- LITIGATION ONLY FILED BY
LICENSE OPERATOR. THAT THE SHOW
ACTUAL HARM. THE PURPOSE IS TO
HAVE THE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.
WHERE BY LESS OPERATOR CAN GO TO
COURT. IN SAY THERE'S AN UNLESS
OPERATOR. NEAR ME THEY NEED TO
SHUT UP GIVE THE GIVE THE COURT
GIVE THAT OPERATED THE STANDARD
THAT YOU GIVE THE COURT THE
POWER. TO GIVE AN IMMEDIATE
INJUNCTION SHUT DOWN THAT
BUSINESS BUILDING THAT'S GOOD
PUBLIC POLICY. NO MA'AM IT'S
ALSO CLARIFY. AND LIMIT THE
SCOPE SIGNIFICANT IS NOT
OFFICIAL PAGO. BILL THIS THIS
DOESN'T DO THAT I THINK THE
MOMENTS. CERTAINLY REFLECT THAT
THAT INTENT WAS NEVER OUR
INTENT. EDUCATION THIS IS THE WE
THINK THIS IS A VERY NARROW.
MORTON MEASURE. BY NO MEANS A
SOLUTION BUT IT'S ANOTHER IT'S
ANOTHER STEP HOPEFULLY IN.
ENCOURAGING THE LESS OPERATORS
TO BECOME LICENSE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR ANY
OTHER SUPPORTERS. GOOD MORNING
ELIZABETH THAT'S BEEN- SOME
BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS IN THE COUNTY OF
SANTA BARBARA IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER
SUPPORTERS IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. NOW LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION LEAD OR
OTHERWISE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. SEEING NO OPPOSITION
WITNESSES LET'S NOW MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MATTER IF
YOU'D PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY.
EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE A. B.
ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE WILL TAKE
THEM NOW. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
AB ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND
MISTER CHAIR THERE ARE NO
COMMENTS. BY LET'S MOVE THE
CONVERSATION BACK TO THE DAYS OF
MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS. OR
COMMENTS RIGHT HERE. OF CENTER
NERO. LET'S SEE CENTER EGGMAN-
CENTER WILL- THEIR NEW- FIRST
FOLLOWED BY SENATORS- THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR. THIS IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE OF THE DISMAL- LACK. OF
REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT. THE
PEOPLE PASSED THE BILL.
ADMITTEDLY A FAULTY BILL I THINK
ON FALSE PRETENSES BUT NONE THE
LESS PASSED THE BILL AND- IN THE
FACE OF AS I SAID BEFORE AN
EXTREMELY STRONG ILLEGAL MARKET.
TO BEGIN- NASCENT LEGAL MARKET.
THE FORMER CONTINUES TO WIN AND
THE LATTER CONTINUES TO LOSE AND
A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH
LACK OF ENFORCEMENT- AND WE
SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE TRYING
TO DEAL WITH THAT. IT IS
BEGINNING TO SEEM TO ME LIKE AN
UTTER WASTE OF TIME- HERE WERE
AUTHORIZING. ENTITIES WITH-
DIMINISHING AND LITTLE
RESOURCES. TO SUE IN COURT
ENTITIES WITH SIGNIFICANT
RESOURCES. YOU TELL ME WHO'S
GOING TO WIN THAT BATTLE. UNLESS
AN ATTORNEY- TAKES THESE
STRICTLY ON CONTINGENCIES WHICH
CAN HAPPEN- BUT AGAIN. PRIME I'M
DOUBTFUL I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY
ABOUT THIS BILL AS I DID- THE
OTHER BILL BUT- I I'M DOUBTFUL
THAT IT CAN MAKE ALL THAT MUCH
OF A DIFFERENCE GIVEN THE
FUNDAMENTAL- DYSFUNCTION WE'RE
DEALING WITH HERE. THANK YOU SIR
SIR ONE OF. THANK YOU THANK YOU
ASSEMBLY MEMBER- RUBIO I REALLY
DO APPRECIATE YOU BRING THIS I
THINK MORE AND MORE WE'RE GONNA
HAVE RIGHT HAVING A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS ON CANNABIS IN
PARTICULAR- BUT I ALSO WANT TO
SAY THAT TO. A FORMER
ASSEMBLYMEMBER TO RICO'S
COMMENTS- I WILL MOVE THE BILL
AND APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON
THIS. THANK YOU CENTER ANY OTHER
. THIS WILL CLOSE I JUST AGREE
WITH MY COLLEAGUE- FROM- THE BAY
AREA ON THIS IN MAINLY BECAUSE
THIS IS A NEW INDUSTRY. AND
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT
IT'S ONE THAT'S HIGH ROAD IT'S
ONE THAT IS REGULATED- AND IT
BECOMES. PART OF THE JOB SALES
TAX- A COMMUNITY SUSTAINABILITY
GENERATOR THAT WE NEEDED TO BE
AND THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT TO DEAL
WITH. THE ILLICIT MARKET WHICH
IS STILL PUTTING FAR TOO MANY OF
OUR FOLKS IN JAIL. SO I JUST
WANT TO SAY- I SUPPORT THIS BILL
AND I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO DO WITH IT AND I'M GLAD THAT.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DECIDED TO
DO. AT THIS POINT IN YOUR CAREER
SO WITH THAT I SUPPORT THE BILL
AS WELL THANK YOU CENTER ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
SENATOR GLAZERS. THANK YOU CHAIR
ROTH AND I DID HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE
TESTIMONY REMOTELY PRIOR TO MY
ARRIVAL HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM- AND IT AND FIRST I WANT TO
ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE
COMMENTS MADE EARLIER BY THE
SENATOR FROM FAIR OAKS. ABOUT
THE NEED TO- REALLY SPEND SOME
TIME IN THE SPACE I HATE THESE
ONE OFF BILLS- WE'VE BEEN HAVING
THEM FOR YEARS NOW IT'S A
DYSFUNCTIONAL MARKET- I'M NOT.
HAPPY OF THAT THE SITUATION THAT
WE FIND OURSELVES IN. AND SO
RELUCTANTLY I AM GOING TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL. EVEN THOUGH
IT'S NOT THE- PRACTICE I THINK
WE SHOULD FOLLOW IN GOVERNMENT.
TO HAVE PRIVATE ACTION IN THESE
SPACES IT SHOULD BE US TO IN OUR
OUR OUR JOB CORRECTLY- AND WE
JUST SEEM TO NOT BE ABLE TO GET
IN FRONT OF THIS PROBLEM ON A
WHOLE RANGE OF. PLACES INCLUDING
WHAT YOUR BILL THAT SEEKS TO TRY
TO ACCOMPLISH AND WITHOUT ALL
SUPPORTED TODAY BUT I HOPE THAT-
ROTHMAN. AND OTHERS CAN TRY TO
FIND A WAY TO- HAVE
COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT THIS
WHOLE PROBLEM. AND HAVE THE
DISCUSSIONS. FORGE A BETTER PATH
. THANK YOU CENTER ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WELL MAKE
ONE YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY IT'S
AND FRANKLY IT'S INEXCUSABLE
THAT THE STATE HAS FAILED TO
FUND AND RESOURCE THE
ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY THAT IS
NECESSARY IN THIS SPACE UP AND
DOWN THE- UP AND DOWN THE STATE.
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SENATE
CALIFORNIA. STATE ASSEMBLY WITH
TWO IS A STATE LEGISLATURE CAN'T
SEEM TO DRIVE ENOUGH MONEY.
THROUGH THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT OF
COURSE TAKES THREE TO TANGO IN
THE STATE. DRIVING OF MONEY
THROUGH THE BUDGET TO GET THE
ENFORCEMENT LEVEL RAMPED UP- TO
THE LEVEL THAT NEEDS TO IN ORDER
TO TAMP OF THIS ILLEGAL OR
ILLICIT. MARKET SO WE RESORT TO.
VIGILANTE OPERATIONS- WHICH IS
HOW I SHOULD REVIEW THIS BUT I
GUESS IT'S NECESSARY AND I HOPE
HOPEFULLY IT WILL SUCCEED. IT'S
GOING TO BE DIFFICULT IN A CAGE
BASED BUSINESS WHERE PEOPLE
DON'T NECESSARILY OPERATE FROM-
PLACES THAT THEY WANT TO BE
FOUND BUT- WE'LL SEE HOW THIS
WORKS I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
WILL HAVE THE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE JUDICIARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ROTH HI CRUSH
FIVE WENT. OVER TO GO. OF
ARTICLE III ARCHIE. ARCHER AYE
CASH. HOUSE I BAKER RIGHT. BAKER
I DO. EGGMAN EGGMAN I. GLAZER
AYE. SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SMOKE I
WILL. BOB I WILL. BOOK HI THE
BILL HAS TO VOTES WILL HOLD THE
ROPE FOR UP TO MEMBERS THANK YOU
. NO IS ITEM NUMBER SIX ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HANEY AB. TWELVE EIGHTY
SIX. WELCOME SIR THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS- I FIRST WANT
TO START BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS INCLUDING-
THE AMENDMENT THAT STRIKES THE
ABILITY FOR PHARMACISTS ON DUTY
TO CLOSE THE PHARMACY DUE TO
INSUFFICIENT STAFFING. AND I
WANNA THANK THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING IN
MY OFFICE ON THE LANGUAGE WE I
ACCEPTED ALL OF THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS SO MANY OF THE-
ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN
THE- ANALYSIS I BELIEVE WERE
ADDRESSED BY THESE AMENDMENTS
AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH
US ON THAT. I'M WE ALL CAN AGREE
THAT- CHAIN PHARMACIES AND THE
PHARMACISTS WHO WORK FOR THEM
ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN DELIVERING
CARE TO CALIFORNIANS HOWEVER
ALARMING MEDICATION ERRORS IN
THIS CITY SETTING HAVE RECENTLY
BEEN MADE PUBLIC. INCLUDING
ERRORS THAT HAVE LED TO
HOSPITALIZATION OR DEATH THERE
MANY CONDITIONS IN A PHARMACY
THAT CAN LEAD TO MEDICATION
ERRORS SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS
INCLUDE INSUFFICIENT STAFFING
UNSANITARY CONDITIONS OR AN
UNSAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT. AND
WHILE SIGNIFICANT TIME IN
RESEARCH HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO
EVALUATING MEDICATION ERRORS
OCCURRING IN IN PATIENT SETTINGS
LIKE HOSPITALS SIMILAR RESEARCH
AND INFORMATION SHARING DOES NOT
EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY PHARMACY
SETTING. I'M FORCING THERE IS NO
REQUIREMENT UNDER CURRENT LAW
FOR PHARMACIES TO TRACK
MEDICATION ERRORS ARE TO
CONSIDER THE PHARMACY WORKING
CONDITIONS THAT LEAD TO
MEDICATION ERRORS. THERE FROM
MEDICATION ERRORS ARE WIDELY
UNDER REPORTED AN UNKNOWN BY
HAVING DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON
PATIENTS AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
WILL HELP ADDRESS THE ROOT
CAUSES OF MEDICATION ERRORS AND
ENSURE OUR COMMUNITY CHAIN
PHARMACISTS. ARE PROVIDING THEIR
PATIENTS WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE
CARE. IT DOES SO BY REQUIRING
COMMUNITY CHAIN PHARMACIES TO
REPORT MEDICATION ERRORS. AND
REQUIRES THESE PHARMACIES TO
MAINTAIN ADEQUATE STAFFING AND
PROVIDES A CLEAR PATHWAY TO
CLOSE THE PHARMACY IF THERE IS A
SERIOUS THREAT. THE PATIENTS ARE
WORKERS. NO ONE SHOULD BE
PROVIDING CLINICAL CARE IN
UNSAFE UNSANITARY WORK
ENVIRONMENTS AND PATIENTS SHOULD
NOT BE RECEIVING CARE IN THESE
CONDITIONS. I WANT TO KNOW THAT
WE AMENDED THE BILL BEFORE
COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS THE
OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS AROUND
PHARMACY CLOSURES. AND IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AMENDED
LANGUAGE AS WELL AS A COMMITTEES
PROPOSED AMENDMENT TODAY ON
CLOSURE. SHOULD RESOLVE THE
OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS ON THE
CLOSURES. AND I WANTED THEM AT
THE OPPOSITION AS WELL AS FOR
WORKING SO COLLABORATE WITH OUR
OFFERS OFFICE AND THE SPONSORS.
I HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
TODAY IS JESSE CRAWLEY THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE. BOARD OF PHARMACY AND DR
VERONICA BANDY A PROFESSOR AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF PACIFIC AND A
COMMUNITY PHARMACIST. WE ALSO
HAVE MISATO GRAND FROM. THE
BOARD OF PHARMACY WAS AVAILABLE
FOR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU SIR. PLEASE PROCEED. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR PERSON ROTH AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
BOARD OF PHARMACY I SINCERELY
THINK ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY FOR
AUTHORING THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC
HEALTH MEASURE. IN THE COMMITTEE
AND ITS STAFF FOR ITS
CONSIDERATION OF THIS MEASURE
TODAY. MY NAME IS JESSE PROBABLY
I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
BOARD OF PHARMACY. BY STATUTE
THE BOARD IS THE CONSUMER
PROTECTION AGENCY CHARGED WITH
REGULATING THE PRACTICE OF
PHARMACY. EXPLICITLY STATED IN
PHARMACY LAW WHENEVER THE
PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC IS
INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER
INTERESTS OUGHT TO BE PROMOTED.
THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC
SHALL BE PARAMOUNT. CONSISTENT
WITH THIS LEGISLATIVE MANDATE
THE BOARD IS SPONSORING AB
TWELVE EIGHTY SIX ONE OF THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT PATIENT SAFETY
MEASURES EVER SPONSORED BY THE
BOARD. AS PART OF THE BOARD'S
SUNSET REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAS ASKED
THE BOARD IF THERE WERE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR STATUTORY
REVISION THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY
REDUCE THE FREQUENCY OF
MEDICATION ERRORS. RESULTING IN
PATIENT HARM. IN THE BOARD'S
RESPONSE TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE. THE BOARDED KNOWLEDGE
THAT ISSUE OF MEDICATION ERRORS
MUST BE ADDRESSED TO IMPROVE
PUBLIC HEALTH. THE BOARD NOTED
AT THE TIME- CONSIDER
CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO
DETERMINE IF THE BOARD OR
ANOTHER ENTITY SHOULD RECEIVE
MEDICATION ERROR REPORTS. THE
BOARD ALSO COMMITTED TO
CONDUCTING A SURVEY TO DETERMINE
IF WORKING CONDITIONS ARE
CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. I AM
TESTIFYING BEFORE YOU TODAY
BECAUSE THE BOARD DEDICATED
SIGNIFICANT TIME TO EVALUATE
THIS ISSUE AND HAS IDENTIFIED
NECESSARY CHANGES IN PHARMACY
LAW TO PROTECT CONSUMERS.
ASSEMBLY BILL TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
INCORPORATES THE FINDINGS OF A
YEAR LONG EFFORT LEARNING FROM
EXPERTS AND EVALUATING ACTIONS
TAKEN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. IF
TIME IS SHORT I WILL FINISH MY
COMMENTS BY NOTING THAT GOOD
PUBLIC POLICY AND THE BOARD'S
CONSIDERED CONSUMER PROTECTION
MANDATE. DEMAND THAT THE BOARD
TAKE ACTION TO PREVENT FUTURE
MEDICATION ERRORS. I THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION
OF AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX AND YOUR
ASSISTANCE FOR HELPING THE BOARD
PROTECT CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US THE TWENTY. MISTER CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I'M
DR VERONICA MANDY I'M A FACULTY
AT THE UNIVERSITY SPECIFIC
SCHOOL OF PHARMACY AS WELL AS A
PRACTICING COMMITTEE PHARMACISTS
IN CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY
IN SUPPORT OF AB TWELVE EIGHTY
SIX. I WANT TO THANK THE
LEGISLATURE FOR ADDRESSING
WORKFORCE ISSUES- OVER THE PAST
AS WELL AS CONTINUE TO ADDRESS
THESE ISSUES IN CORPORATE OR
PHARMACIES FOR THE PAST SEVERAL
YEARS. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO
ENSURE PATIENT SAFETY. IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN SB FOURTEEN
FORTY TWO WAS SIGNED INTO LAW
WHICH REQUIRES COMMUNITY
PHARMACIES TO HAVE ANOTHER.
EMPLOYEE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST THE
PHARMACIST AT ALL TIMES.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE STILL
SOME CORPORATE ON PHARMACIES
GARDENIA TEND TO THE LAW THE
ONLY HAVING A FRONT END OR STORE
CASHIER AVAILABLE. NOT PHARMACY
PROFESSIONALS. STORE CASHIERS IN
SOME CASES ARE NEITHER TRAINED
NOR LEGALLY AUTHORIZED. TO BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE THE ASSISTANCE
NEEDED IN THE PHARMACY. ONE OF
THE MAJOR STRUGGLES WE CONTINUE
TO FACE AND WORKING PHARMACIES
IS THAT WE ARE IN SOME CASES
SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERSTAFFED. IT
HAS BEEN REPORTED AT THE
UNDERSTAFFING IS A CONTRIBUTING
FACTOR TO MEDICATION ERRORS.
REQUIRING ALL PHARMACIES TO
REPORT MEDICATION ERRORS IS GOOD
POLICY BUT ALSO DOESN'T AND
ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE
ISSUE. ON AVERAGE CALIFORNIA
SCHOOLS OF PHARMACY GRADUATE
BETWEEN EIGHT HUNDRED AND A
THOUSAND PHARMACISTS EVERY
SINGLE YEAR. THERE IS CURRENTLY
NO SHORTAGE OF PHARMACISTS
WITHIN OUR STATE. REQUIRED A
CHAIN COMMITTEE PHARMACY TO BE
STAFF WITH AT LEAST ONE PHARMACY
CLERK OR A PHARMACY TECHNICIAN
IS NOT A REASONABLE. ESPECIALLY
WHEN THE BILL COULD HAVE
REQUIRED ADDITIONAL PHARMACISTS
TO BE HIRED. AS HEALTHCARE
PROVIDERS PHARMACISTS ARE
LEGALLY ETHICALLY BOUND ADVISE
OUR PATIENTS. PHYSICIANS AND
OTHER HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS ON
THE SELECTION DOSAGE.
INDICATIONS SIDE EFFECTS
REGARDING MEDICATIONS AND OTHER
DISEASE STATES IN ORDER FOR US
THIS PHARMACIST APPROPRIATE
APPROPRIATELY PROVIDE CARE. AND
TO HAVE A MINIMUM. MINIMUM
STAFFING OF THE PHARMACY IS
PARAMOUNT. AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
GET A FAIR BILL AND WILL HELP
IMPROVE PATIENT SAFETY. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
DOCTOR ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED. SEEING NONE LET'S
TURN TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES
LIED OR OTHERWISE. FIRST THE
LEADS. GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN
ROTH AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS ROB GET US
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ALBERTSONS
COMPANIES- WE- PRECIADO HAS ONLY
MEMBER HANEY AND HIS OFFICE
WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY WITH US
TO. READ REMEDIATE SOME OF THE
ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH THE
CLOSURE OF LANGUAGE IN THE BILL.
AND THAT WE THANK HIM FOR THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE OFFERED AND
ACCEPTED ON THAT AS WELL AS THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS ARE
ACCEPTED TODAY- WE STILL HAVE
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS WITH THIS
BILL- ONE PRIMARILY BEING THAT
THE MINIMUM STAFFING FLOOR THAT
IS ESTABLISHED BY THE BILL- FOR
ALBERTSON'S WE DO OPERATE MANY
LOW VOLUME PHARMACIES. SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AND WE DO VIEW THAT THIS AND
BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS THIS WILL
BE A BILL THAT WILL LIKELY CAUSE
PERMANENT CLOSURE OF PHARMACIES
IN THOSE IN THOSE SCENARIOS- WE
HAVE SUBMITTED. AN AMENDMENT TO
THE AUTHOR- RELATED RELATED TO
INSERTING A THRESHOLD THAT WOULD
ALLOW FOR THE VERY LOW VOLUME
PHARMACIES TO CONTINUE TO
OPERATE WITH AN EXCEPTION TO THE
MINIMUM STAFFING FLOOR. WITH YOU
THAT IS A FAIR AMENDMENT THAT
WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO
OPERATE THOSE AND CONTINUE TO
PRESERVE PATIENT ACCESS IN THOSE
AREAS- THIS IS THAT THE ORIGINAL
CLOSURE LANGUAGE HELPS TO THE
AMENDMENTS HELP TO PREVENT
INTERMITTENT CLOSURE. WE THINK
THAT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE
WE'VE OFFERED ON THAT THIS
ASPECT OF THE BILL WILL HELP TO.
PREVENT PERMANENT CLOSURE WHICH
WILL. HELP BENEFITS AND TO
PREVENT ADDITIONAL PHARMACY
DESERT'S BEING MULTIPLIED AND
GROWING IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA- THIS REALLY COMES
DOWN TO- MULTIPLE FACETED ISSUES
THAT ARE AFFECTING PHARMACY
TODAY RELATED TO REIMBURSEMENT
THAT PREVENT US FROM. BEING ABLE
TO OPERATE- PHARMACIES
PROFITABLY- THIS IS A VERY
CHALLENGING AND COMPLEX TOPIC
AND WE APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S CONCERNS AND AS WELL
AS YOUR ATTENTIVENESS TO THE
ISSUE- AND ASK THAT THE
COMMITTEE WOULD. CONTINUE TO
WORK. WITH THE AUTHORS OFFICE TO
RECOMMEND THAT TO FURTHER
AMENDMENTS ARE ACCEPTED ON THIS
BILL SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A
NEUTRAL POSITION. AND WITH THAT
I'D I'D STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS
IF THERE ARE ANY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU SIR NEXT PLEASE
. HI JENNIFER SNYDER ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION AMERICA COMMUNITY
PHARMACY COALITION- ROB GET IS
DID A VERY NICE JOB OF.
REITERATING KIND OF WHAT OUR
MAIN REMAINING CONCERNS ARE I
FIRST WANT TO REALLY THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR WORKING WITH US AND
THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION TO
THIS ISSUE- THERE'S MANY ASPECTS
OF THE BILL- AND SO A LOT OF
CONTENT THAT WE'VE HAD TO WORK
THROUGH AND- WE REALLY DO HAVE A
GOAL OF GETTING TO A- PLACE
WHERE. AND BOTH OF OUR GOALS
RELATED TO PATIENT SAFETY CAN BE
ACHIEVED SO VERY MUCH THANK
THANK ALL OF THAT TIME AND
EFFORT BY HIM AND HIS STAFF. I'M
I JUST WANT TO ADD TO IMPORTANT
POINTS FIRST AND RESPECTFULLY I
HAVE TO TAKE ISSUE WITH THE
BOARD OF PHARMACY'S WORKPLACE
SURVEY THAT THEY SEEM TO FIGHT A
FAIR AMOUNT BOTH IN THEIR
TESTIMONY AND- IN THE
INFORMATION THAT THEY SHARE. AND
THE SURVEY WAS DONE RIGHT IN THE
MIDDLE OF HARDCODED IT IS
ACTUALLY A MONKEY YEAH ONE OF
THOSE MONTHLY SURVEYS- I COULD
FILL THAT OUT- THERE WAS NO
MONITORING OR ANY TYPE OF- OF-
AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT SURVEY. I
MEAN THEY SITE THAT CONTINUALLY
AS TO HOW THEIR- GENERATING AND
DETERMINING- POLICY AND THIS
BILL IN AND OF ITSELF SO WE HAVE
ENCOURAGED IN OUR DIALOGUE WITH
THE BOARD AND WITH THE AUTHOR
THAT. WE REALLY LOOK AT A SURVEY
THAT CAN BE VERIFIED- AND A
SURVEY THAT CAN BE DONE MAYBE
NOT DURING THE PANDEMIC WHERE
MANY OF US WERE VERY MUCH
STRESSED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND
ALL OF US HAD A REALLY HARD TIME
ESPECIALLY AND- OUR HEALTH CARE.
SETTINGS I'M SECOND LAST- I JUST
WANT TO TOUCH ON WHAT WE
CONSIDER AND BOTH- ALL OF OUR
MEMBERS AND OUR PHARMACY MEMBERS
AS PART OF THE PHARMACY
COALITION. I'M C. AS PROBABLY
THE REMAINING CONCERN THAT NEEDS
TO BE ADDRESSED AT BOTH THE
LEGISLATURE. MINISTRATION ON THE
BOARD OF PHARMACY HAVE NOT
TOUCHED. AND THAT'S A CALIFORNIA
HAS THE MOST- RESTRICTIVE
PHARMACIST THE PHARMACY
TECHNICIAN RATIO IN THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE. A REQUIREMENT THAT ONLY
ONE PHARMACY TECHNICIAN CAN BE
SUPERVISED BY ONE PHARMACIST.
TWENTY FIVE OTHER STATES IN
CALIFORNIA HAVE AN UNLIMITED
RATIO. MOST STATES IF THEY DON'T
HAVE AN UNLIMITED REYES. IT'S AT
LEAST ONE DEATH. OR ONE OF. WE
HERE IN THIS OF CALIFORNIA ONLY
ONE PHARMACY TECHNICIAN TWO ONE
PHARMACIST. AND WE WONDER WHY WE
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CONCERNS
ABOUT STAFFING OR FLEXIBILITY.
ONE PHARMACY TECHNICIAN THAT
DOESN'T SHOW UP FOR WORK THAT
DAY. YOU HAVE NO PHARMACY
TECHNICIANS. OF AND SO WE
BELIEVE THAT ADDRESSING THAT
PHARMACY TO A PHARMACIST A
PHARMACY TECHNICIAN RATIO WOULD
PROBABLY SOLVE MANY OF THE
ISSUES THAT THE BOARD OF
PHARMACY. REYES AND THEY'VE
ASKED THE AUTHOR TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THROUGH HIS BILL TWELVE
EIGHTY SIX SO- WE ARE ENCOURAGED
BY THE DISCUSSIONS ARE
CONTINUING TO HAVE WITH THE
AUTHOR AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
AGAIN THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION
TO THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES NAME.
FILIATION POSITION ON THE
MEASURE. MISTER CHAIRMAN BURST
TRANSMETA BEHALF OF RITE AID
PHARMACIES ASSOCIATE MY COMMENTS
WITH THE PREVIOUS WITNESS. THANK
YOU NEXT PLEASE. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS PETER CALLOUSNESS ON
BEHALF OF WALGREENS WHICH IS A
MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY PHARMACY
COALITION ALSO IN OPPOSITION BUT
APPRECIATE THE STEPS HAVE BEEN
TAKEN. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. SEEING NONE
LET'S MOVE TO THE TELECONFERENCE
ORVIS MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT
ANYONE WAITING TO TESTIFY.
EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE AB
TWELVE EIGHTY SIX AND WILL TAKE
THEM NOW. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX. PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THE TIME. AND
IT MISTER CHAIR THERE ARE NO
COMMENTS. THANK YOU LET'S BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE DAIS AND-
MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS CERTAINLY LOW. FOLLOWED
BY CENTER WILL HAVE BEEN
STURRIDGE. A QUESTION- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HANEY. THE OPPOSITION
STATED THE- VERY SEVERE RATIO OF
PHARMACISTS THE PHARMACIST
TECHNICIANS. GIVEN THAT IF ONE
WANTS TO INCREASE STAFFING ONE
WOULD PRESUMABLY HAVE TO
INCREASE IT BY TWO- AND ANYTIME
YOU WANT TO INCREASE STAFFING
GIVEN THAT- THAT RATIO- HOW DO
YOU ANSWER THAT. SO I ALSO AS
THE DIRECTOR OF THE BOARD OF
PHARMACY WHO CAN ANSWER SOME OF
THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I'M I
KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS
ABOUT- THE RATIO THIS THIS BILL
ANOTHER BILLS HAVE TRIED TO REST
ADDRESS THAT- THIS BILL IS NOT
GETTING INTO THE QUESTION OF THE
RATIO IT'S- CREATING I THINK A
VERY REASONABLE- ACHIEVABLE-
MINIMUM STAFFING REQUIREMENT
WHICH WOULD BE EITHER A PHARMACY
TECH FOR A CLERK WHICH IS FULLY
DEDICATED. TO PERFORMING
PHARMACY RELATED SERVICES THE
EXAMPLE THAT THAT WOULD BE YOU
HEARD FROM ONE OF THE WITNESSES
IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS
HERE WHICH IS YOU CAN HAVE
SOMEBODY WHO'S REALLY YOU KNOW
OPERATING AYE AYE CASH REGISTER
HAS NO CONNECTION OR
RELATIONSHIP OR TRAINING. OR ITS
SOLE DEDICATION I TO PHARMACY.
PHARMACY WITH THE STAFFING FOR
SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT
ASPECT OF IT- WE DON'T SAY IT
HAS TO BE A PHARMACY TECH BUT
BUT I'LL THAT- THE- THE EXPERT.
SPEAK ON THAT TECHNICAL QUESTION
AS TO WHY WE DID IT THIS WAY
RATHER THAN A RATIO. YEAH SO AB
THANK YOU AS SAID THERE ARE
PROVISIONS IN THE BILL THAT
WOULD INCREASE THE STAFFING
BASED- AND THE PHARMACY
TECHNICIAN PIECES THAT WOULD
INCREASE THAT RATIO WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT RATIO IN GENERAL AND I'LL
KEEP IT PRETTY HIGH LEVEL- IN
CALIFORNIA YOU CAN HAVE AN-
UNLIMITED NUMBER OF CLERK TYPIST
AT A PHARMACY. AND A LOT OF
OTHER JURISDICTIONS THOSE
INDIVIDUALS ARE REGULATED AS
PHARMACY TECHNICIANS IN
CALIFORNIA THEY'RE NOT AND SO
YOU CAN HAVE AN UNLIMITED NUMBER
OF THOSE ALL JUST. IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY AN APPLES TO APPLES-
HARRISON BECAUSE THAT SCOPE OF
PRACTICE AND HOW THEY'RE
REGULATED IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS
BERRIES. WHAT WHAT WAS THE TERM
FOR THE- UNREGULATED POSITION OR
THE POSITION NOT REGULATED BY
STAFFING RATIOS ARE CLERK TYPIST
IS WHAT WE CALL THEM IN
CALIFORNIA. THEY'RE UNLICENSED
INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN DO THINGS
LIKE- YOU KNOW TYPE UP THE
LABELS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS
IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS YOUR
LICENSE AS A PHARMACY
TECHNICIAN. TO PERFORM THOSE
FUNCTIONS. BUT WE'RE DEALING
WITH ISSUES OF CUSTOMER SERVICE
THAT RELATE TO- CUSTOMER SAFETY
. THAT WOULD SEEM TO ME BY
DEFINITION TO DEAL WITH-
POSITIONS THAT- WERE
KNOWLEDGEABLE OF. AND HANDLED
SPECIFICALLY PRESCRIPTIONS. THAT
PARTICULAR POSITION. DOESN'T
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE-
DIED DOWN SOUND TO ME ANYTHING
TO DO WITH THE- FILLING OF A
PERSCRIPTION. SO IT WOULD SEEM
THAT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THE
IF THERE'S A STAFFING PROBLEM.
IT WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO BE- THAT
IS DEALING WITH. CUSTOMER SAFETY
WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO DEAL WITH-
PHARMACISTS OR PHARMACISTS
TECHNICIANS. AND D. A. TO ADD
ONE OF THOSE YOU'VE GOT ADD TWO
OF THEM. AND PARTICULARLY SINCE
A PHARMACIST- ASSEMBLY IS PAID
QUITE A BIT MORE- THAT CAN ADD
DISPROPORTIONATELY TO THE
OVERHEAD WHAT ARE MY
MISUNDERSTANDING THERE. SO THAT
THAT THE CLERK TYPIST IS VERY
MUCH INVOLVED WITH PRESCRIPTIONS
AND CAN ASSIST IN THOSE SORT OF
THINGS SO THEY THEY DEFINITELY
WOULD HAVE A ROLE WITH.
SITUATIONS THAT COULD LEAD TO
MEDICATION ERRORS IF YOU DIDN'T
IF YOU IF THE PHARMACIST WAS
HAVING A PROCESS THAT THEMSELVES
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CLERK
THERE. THAT LACK OF STAFFING
SUPPORT CAN LEAD TO MEDICATION
THERE THE- IS IT IS I MEAN THAT
THE CLARK DEFINITELY HAS A ROLE
IN HOW THE PRESCRIPTIONS FIVE I
UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND I
DON'T. WELL I AM INTERRUPTING
BUT I DON'T NEED TO RIDLEY SO
THE TYPIST IS GOING TO BE TYPING
UP PRESCRIPTIONS BASED UPON THE
INPUT FROM THE PERSON THAT
FILLED THE PRESCRIPTION- WOULD
SEEM TO ME THERE'S GOING TO BE
AN ERROR THAT'S WHERE THE ERROR
IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE
BECAUSE JUST TRANSCRIBING IS NOT
A PARTICULARLY SKILLED. JOB WHAT
YEAH SO- ALTHOUGH THE PHARMACY
AND ALTHOUGH CLERK TYPIST IS NOT
LICENSED BY THE BOARD THEY
OPERATE UNDER THE DIRECT
SUPERVISION AND CONTROL OF THE
PHARMACIST AS DOES THE PHARMACY
TECHNICIAN. SO THEY DO NOT HAVE
ANY INDEPENDENT OF BONHOMIE
AUTONOMY SO ANY WORK THAT IS
DONE BY THOSE PERSONNEL MUST BE
REVIEWED AND- APPROVED AT
APPROVED AS AROUND WHAT THEY
DEEMED APPROPRIATE. BY THE
PHARMACIST OR THE PHARMACIST IS
DOING ALL OF THAT AS WELL AS
DOING ALL OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT
REQUIRE- CLINICAL JUDGMENT.
DOING YOUR MEDICATION REVIEWS TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE
FOR YOU THAT THERE'S NO CONTRA
INDICATIONS AND ALL OF THOSE
KINDS OF THINGS. SO THEIR- FEET
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT- THE THOUGH
THE STAFFING WITH IN THE
PHARMACY THERE'S THOSE THAT ARE
REGULATED ON THOSE THAT ARE
UNREGULATED OR NOT LICENSED BY
THE BOARD. AND THOSE THAT ARE
LICENSED BY THE BOARD THERE IS
THE RATIO BUT ALL OF THOSE
ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT
INCLUDED IN THE RATIO. DO YOU
BELIEVE THAT THE- ONE TO ONE
RATIO GIVEN WHAT OTHER STATES DO
JUST THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A
BIT RESTRICTIVE. SO I WILL SAY
THAT THE BOARD OF PHARMACY. HAS
CONSIDERED RATIO AND THIS THE
LEGISLATIVE BODIES HAVE
CONSIDERED THE RATIO AND THE LAW
HAS REMAINED THE SAME. UP WHAT
WE ARE SEEKING TO DO HERE
SPECIFIC TO MEDICATION ERRORS IS
LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING
TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND IT
THE BOARD DID INCLUDE IN THE
PROPOSAL IN TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
THERE IS PROVISIONS. THAT ALLOW
THAT EXPAND WHEN A PHARMACY
TECHNICIAN CAN DO BECAUSE THOSE
WERE THINGS THAT COULD BE TAKEN
OFF OF THE PHARMACIST PLATE AND
WHERE THEY'RE DOING THAT
ACTUALLY IT DOES INCREASE. THE
NUMBER OF PHARMACY TECHNICIANS
TO SO THAT SECOND TECHNICIAN CAN
BE DOING THOSE ADDITIONAL-
AUTHORITIES ESTABLISHED IN
TWELVE EIGHTY SIX WHILE THE
OTHER ONE REMAINS THERE TO
ASSIST THE PHARMACIST. RELATING
TO THE- DUTIES OF THE- THE
PHARMACIST TECHNICIAN- I
UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY A
PORTION OF THE BILL ALSO GIVES
THE PHARMACISTS THE ABILITY TO
JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT A
PHARMACIST TECHNICIAN. HAS THE
COMPETENCY TO DO CERTAIN JOBS.
SINCE THE LICENSURE ALREADY
SPECIFIES THAT WHITE IS THE BILL
HAVE THAT- COMPONENT THAT. SO
FROM A CONSUMER PROTECTION
STANDPOINT- A LOT OF THESE
DUTIES- THEY'RE A ARE REQUIRED
TO HAVE TRAINING BUT FROM A
PRACTICAL STANDPOINT AS A
PHARMACIST- YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR ALL OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE TAKING
AND- YOU DON'T NECESSARILY
ALWAYS HAVE CONTROL OVER OR KNOW
WHO YOU'RE WORKING WITH. AT THE
TIME SO HAVING THE PHARMACIST IN
CHARGE MAKING THAT DETERMINATION
IS INTENDED TO BE SURE THAT THE
PHARMACIST THAT THEY'RE WORKING
ON THAT DAY THAT IS A SIGN TO A
PHARMACY TECHNICIAN HAS
CONFIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE
COMPLETED THAT ADDITIONAL
TRAINING AND HAVE BEEN- HAVE
BEEN DEEMED SAFE TO DO SO IN
TERMS OF ADMINISTERING THAT- YOU
KNOW THE VACCINE SERVICE. SO
PHARMACISTS CANNOT. OF CERTAINTY
RELY UPON THE SKILLS THAT A
PHARMACIST TECHNICIAN A HAS BY
VIRTUE OF THE LICENSURE. FOR
THESE ENHANCED DUTIES BECAUSE
TYPICALLY THE CERTIFICATION
PROCESS OR THE PATHWAYS TO
LICENSURE DO NOT COVER THESE
ENHANCE DUTIES THAT ARE BEING
ESTABLISHED IN TWELVE EIGHTY
SIX- THE SOME OF THESE FUNCTIONS
HAVE BEEN DONE THROUGH THE COBIT
PANDEMIC. UNDER THE PREP BACK TO
THE DC DIRECTORS WAIVERS BUT
THIS IS- IT IS NOT WAS NOT
CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF THE
MINIMUM- REQUIREMENTS FOR
LICENSURE AS A PHARMACY
TECHNICIAN AND ACTUALLY SO IS
FOR THE PHARMACIST TO- ASSIGNED
TO THE PHARMACIST TECHNICIAN.
SKILLS AND ABOVE A BAR ABOVE AND
BEYOND THAT WAS WHICH THE
LICENSURE COVERS- THE BILL
DOESN'T MAKE THAT MUCH MAYBE I'M
MISSING SOMETHING BUT THE BILL
DOESN'T MAKE THAT. PARTICULARLY
CLEAR. THANK YOU. REMEMBER ME
JUST AS ONE QUESTION BEFORE YOU
. SO I AM BEFORE I TURNED MY
COLLEAGUES BECAUSE THEY'RE UP
FIRST BUT I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW
ONE SENATOR WAS POINT. SO IF A
PHARMACIST HAS TO MAKE A
DETERMINATION OF COMPETENCY WITH
REGARD TO A- ALREADY LICENSE
PERSON LICENSED BY THE BOARD. IF
THE PHARMACIST MAKES A MISTAKE
FOR MRS SOMETHING IN THAT
COMPETENCY DETERMINATION IS THE
PHARMACIST THEN SUBJECT TO
DISCIPLINARY ACTION FOR
UNPROFESSIONAL CONDUCT. SO THAT
MAKE QUESTION MAKES SENSE I
THINK SO I'M GONNA TRY IN OTHER
WORDS IF YOU TAKE A STAB AT
INTERPRETING REYES WERE PUTTING
AN OBLIGATION OF PHARMACISTS TO
DETERMINE COMPETENCY OF THE
SUBORDINATE LICENSE PERSON. IF
THE PHARMACIST MESSES UP.
DOESN'T PROPERLY ASSESS
COMPETENCE AND THERE'S AN ISSUE.
IS A PHARMACIST AND SUBJECT TO
DISCIPLINE FOR FAILURE TO DO SO
I AM IN THE BILL I WILL EXCUSE
ME SORRY I'M NERVOUS- I WILL BE
NERVOUS. WE WERE ALL NERVOUS- I
IT'S THE PHARMACIST IN CHARGE
USE THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S
RESPONSIBLE FOR OPERATIONAL
COMPLIANCE BUT THE PHARMACY IS
THE ONE THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED
NOT SO THE PHARMACIST THAT'S
THERE CAN RELY ON THAT
DETERMINATION THAT'S BEEN MADE
BY THE PHARMACISTS CHARGED. THAT
THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN IN FACT TO
DO THE YOU KNOW ADMINISTERED THE
IMMUNIZATION SAFELY FOR EXAMPLE
AND. YOU'RE ALSO I AND AS IN
CENTER NEARBY APOLOGIZE- SO I
KNOW WE TOOK A NUMBER OF CAN-
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS ONE OF THE
AMENDMENTS WAS ASKING US. I TO
THAT THAT IF THE- THE SAID THAT
THE TAX ARE PERFORMING TASKS
WHICH THEIR LICENSE AUTHOR MAY
WISH TO STRIKE REFERENCE IN
SECTION FOUR THAT ALLOWS THE
PHARMACIST IN CHARGE TO DEEM A
PT COMPETENT TO PERFORM
ADDITIONAL TASKS. WE TOOK THAT
AMENDMENT AS WELL SO SOME SOME
OF THIS IS ALSO PROBABLY DRESSES
THE ISSUE. YES IS THAT SPECIFIC
THANK YOU SO WE TOOK THAT OUT OF
THE BILL ALL WE TOOK ALL THE IN
ALL OF THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE
AMENDMENTS. WE'D WE'D BE OKAY
WITH OUR SUGGESTIONS IN THE
ANALYSIS WE TOOK AMENDMENTS
ACTUALLY ATTACKING THAT THANKS.
FOR CLARIFYING CENTER A- THANK
YOU- SIR IT WANTED TO ASK
QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN CLARIFY I
THINK IT'S- BEST- NUMBER ONE IN
REGARDS TO. THIS PARTICULAR BILL
BASICALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
STAFFING LEVELS AND SO FORTH-
THANK. YOU CAN HIRE AS MANY
STAFF THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY
LICENSE CORRECT. AS NEEDED YES.
OKAY AND THEN- SOME OF THE OTHER
POSITIONS BESIDES A PHARMACIST-
THE TECH AND I BELIEVE THERE IS
ANOTHER ONE- ONCE A CLERK
TYPIST- THEY THEY ARE NOT
NECESSARY LICENSED ON UNDER THE
BOARD RIGHT. CORRECT OKAY AND
YOU CAN HIRE TEN OF THEM RIGHT.
ACT UNLIMITED NUMBER IF NEED BE
RIGHT. AND THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND- AND MUCH
MORE FOR NOT ONLY THE PATIENT-
ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE
RIGHT MEDICATION AND- AND ALSO
SERVICE TO INDIVIDUALS TO COME
INTO PHARMACIES CRACKED. YES
OKAY AND- I PERSONALLY WILL JUST
SAY YOU KNOW I HAVE. AGING
PARENTS OBVIOUSLY AND THEY HAVE
A LOT HEALTHCARE CONCERNS AND
GOING TO A PHARMACY- TAKES FOR
EVER NUMBER ONE- THERE IS A LACK
OF SUPPORT THEIR- INCLUDING IN
BAY AREA. CITIES I DON'T THINK
THAT THIS BILL IS HARMFUL IN IN
THAT REGARD I ACTUALLY THINK
IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL TO
CONSUMERS AND AGAIN THERE'S A
LOT OF- ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE
ARE DEALING WITH MEDICATION
BEING PROVIDED TO PEOPLE. RIGHT
AND IT'S OF THE UTMOST
IMPORTANCE TO ENSURE THAT THAT
MEDICATION IS NOT ONLY ACCURATE
BUT ALSO THAT PATIENTS AND
FAMILY MEMBERS OF PATIENTS CAN
HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED- CLARITY
ON THE MEDICATION AND MUCH MORE
AND YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL
WILL WILL ALSO HELP IN SOME
REGARD TO THAT LEVEL OF CARE.
CORRECT YES OKAY WITH ALL OF
THAT I MOVE THE BILL I
APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK I
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMMENTING
AND I AM SURE THAT WE CAN. YOU
KNOW ADDRESS OTHER ISSUES AS
THEY COME UP THANK YOU THANK YOU
THANK YOU SENATOR CENTER ASHLEY
. YEAH FIRST OF ALL I'M INNOCENT
AND BILLET DOES LOOK SO MANY
THINGS SO READING IT IS SORT OF
LIKE A CHECKLIST RIGHT IT SAYS.
GAINES ME OF THE YOU KNOW BE IN
P. BILLS THAT ARE THAT HE HAS TO
CARRY YOU KNOW DEAL WITH THE
WHOLE INDUSTRY SO I APPRECIATE
THAT YOU ARE AMBITIOUS AND
TAKING IT ALL ON. BUT I'M FOR A
COMMUNITY LIKE MINE IN
SACRAMENTO THIS GROUP THEY GOT
UP IN OPPOSITION THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT GROUP BECAUSE THAT'S
WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE GETTING
THEIR MEDICATIONS FROM. HERE AND
SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE DOING TO TALK TO THEM
ABOUT THOSE RATIOS AND MAKING
SURE. THAT THAT I KNOW I KNOW
IT'S NOT DESIRABLE IN SOME AREAS
FOR CHAINS TO BE THE ONLY ONE
BUT HERE. THAT WOULD BE WHEN YOU
HAVE RITE AID SAFEWAY GETTING UP
AND TALKING THAT WOULD BE.
EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC THERE ARE
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MY
CONSTITUENTS WORK THAT'S THE
ONLY PLACE THEY WOULD BE GETTING
THEIR MEDICINE SO. TELL ME HOW
THIS DOESN'T TRADE OUT ONE-
REALLY NOBLE AND IMPORTANT THING
TO DO. IN ACCESS IN OTHER AREAS
FROM CREATING A BARRIER TO
ACCESS IN OTHER AREAS. OR HOW
YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT RATIO
ISSUE. WITH WITH THAT COMMUNITY
I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT YOUR
BILL BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT
BECAUSE I. ON IF THEY STILL WANT
THE BILL IN THE FLORIDA FOUND
ADDRESSING THAT IT'S TOO IT'S
TOO IMPORTANT FOR. FOR REGIONS
LIKE MINE. ABSOLUTELY AND WE'VE
BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH
WITH THE OPPOSITION THROUGHOUT
THIS PROCESS- WHEN I WAS IN THE
ASSEMBLY THE MAIN ISSUE WE HAD
AROUND WAS THIS QUESTION OF. THE
ECONOMY THAT A PHARMACIST HAS IF
THERE'S A REALLY SERIOUS- A
THREAT- TO SOMEBODY SAFETY OR- I
TO- EVEN DEATH OR ILLNESS. AND
THAT TIME TO ME THAT THAT
PHARMACIST HAS TO BE ABLE TO
TEMPORARY. TEMPORARILY SHOT A
PART OF THE PHARMACY DOWN WE
WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT WITH
THEM ON THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT
AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON
AMENDMENTS THERE. I'M HAPPY TO
CONTINUE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT
THE STAFFING PART OF THIS BILL-
THIS BILL CAME FORWARD FROM THE
BOARD OF PHARMACY WHO. IS WITHIN
STATUTES TO PROTECT. PATIENTS
AND CONSUMERS AND MAKE SURE THAT
WE INSURE- BROUGHT ACCESS BUT
ALSO SAFE ACCESS TO MEDICATION
AND SUPPORTED BY THE PHARMACIST
AND SO. THE THESE FOLKS ARE ALSO
AS YOU ARE AND AS I KNOW THE KEY
CHAIN PHARMACIES ARE. COMMITTED
TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE-
BROAD ACCESS. TO MEDICATION AND
ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE
THINGS TO KEEP FOLKS SAFE AND I
THINK THIS DOES STRIKE A RIGHT
BALANCE. THE ISSUE OF THE RATIO
IS A VERY PRICKLY ONE IN BOTH
YEAH AND I ARE A RELATIVELY NEW
HERE BUT IT'S BEEN. CONTESTED
AND FOUGHT ARE ALONG FOR SOME
AMOUNT OF TIME. AND WE DIDN'T GO
THERE IN THIS BILL BUT I THINK
THAT WHERE WE ENDED UP ON
STAFFING IS A FAIR WAY TO DO IT.
MINIMUM MINIMUM STAFFING THAT
OUT THAT MEANS YOU JUST HAVE TO
HAVE ONE MORE PERSON THERE
EITHER. EITHER ATTACK OR CLERK
WHO'S FULLY DEDICATED TO
ASSISTING THAT PHARMACIST I
THINK FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE.
A RELY ON THESE PHARMACIES AND-
OURSELVES HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS
WHO ALIGNMENT. THAT FEELS FAIR
TO ASK. BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO
TALK TO THEM IF THEY'RE WAYS
THAT WE CAN. I RECOGNIZE THERE
IS A QUESTION OR A ACT IDEA
ABOUT. SO PHARMACIES OF CERTAIN
SIZES AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY
TO. TO THINK ABOUT IT IN THAT
WAY- WITHOUT HAVING TO DIG INTO
THE RATIO BECAUSE OF A DOG INTO
THE RATIO. A LOT OF OTHERS YEAH
I'M OUT AND BRIAN THIS BILL. I
THINK IN ADDRESSED THE SAFETY.
ISSUES WITHOUT. ADDRESSING THE
REAL COULD US. FOR NOT BEING A-
OF STEPPING IN. THE PARK SPOTS
OR MAYBE ON ACCESS I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I AM. I RESENT THAT REMARK
MYSELF I UNDER. BUT I. I DO NEED
YOU TO KEEP WORKING ON THAT
PIECE WITH THEM AND IF IT'S- YOU
KNOW MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING
WITH THE CHANGE BECAUSE THEY
ARE. SORT OF. BY NATURE
ENCOMPASSED IN THE LARGER
BUSINESS WITH LOTS OF OTHER
PEOPLE ON SITE MAYBE THERE'S
ANOTHER WAY. TO ADDRESS THAT BUT
I NEED YOU TO KEEP WORKING ON
THAT I'M GONNA VOTE FOR IT TODAY
BUT THAT. IN A RESERVE THE RIGHT
TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK WHEN IT
COMES TO THE FLOOR JUST BECAUSE-
I CAN'T. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO SOLVE FOR AND I KNOW
WE NEED TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
BUT IN MY COMMUNITY WOULD IT
WOULD BE A MAJOR HEADACHE FOR US
TO LOSE THEM. OR FOR THEM TO
FEEL LIKE- THEY CAN PROVIDE
THOSE SERVICES OR PHARMACEUTICAL
SERVICES IN SOME OTHER. AREAS
ANYMORE IN SOME OF THE-
COMMUNITIES IN MY DISTRICT THAT.
ARE OUT THERE IS ALREADY FOOD
INSECURE AREAS. AND SOME OF
THOSE FOOD IN SECURE AREAS HAVE
JUST ONE GROCERY. AND THAT
GROCERY IS WHERE THERE IS THE
ONE PHARMACY IT WOULD BE
IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET A
SMALL. PHARMACY INTO THOSE
COMMUNITIES AND I CANNOT LET
THEM LOSE. THE PHARMACY PIECE OF
AN ALREADY TEMPERAMENTAL GROCERY
STORE THAT. IS GONNA NEED
ADDITIONAL CUTS. SO FOR ME I'M
LOOKING AT THIS THROUGH THE
OPTIC OF SOME OF THESE
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT- IT'S HARD TO
EVEN GET A STORE OPENED UP IN
THERE. AND THEY BECOME AN
ISLAND. AND I JUST NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT THEY HAVE AS MUCH
ACCESS INSIDE A STORAGE POSSIBLE
. ABSOLUTELY AND YOU HAVE MY
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO WORK
ON ON THIS- I THINK THERE ARE
STRONG FEELINGS ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE RATIO PIECE IN THE MAIL. THE
END OF THE WAY FOR US TO DEAL
WITH IT. I THINK FOR US FOR A
PLACE LIKE WALGREENS OR RITE AID
WE OF COURSE WANT TO KEEP THEM
OPEN. WE ALSO THINK IT'S
REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT IF
THERE'S A PHARMACIST THERE.
THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OTHER
PERSON. I TO WHO'S DEDICATED TO
ASSIST THAT PERSON TO ENTER- OF
PATIENT SAFETY. YOU'LL FIGURE IT
OUT. THANK YOU US ANDERSON AS
WELL WOULD CUEVAS FOLLOWED BY
CENTER WHEN. AT THANK YOU SO
MUCH MISTER CHAIR AND I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD AND APPRECIATE
THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES
AND I THINK. ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY LOCAL
PHARMACIES BEES ARE. IN SOME
WAYS BECOMING CLINICS- YOU KNOW
ONE PHARMACISTS ONE TECH IN THE
IN THE ONE- SEN- PHARMACY THAT
WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I
REMEMBER ONE AFTERNOON STEPPING
IN. A GENTLEMAN HAD BURNED
HIMSELF AND WAS TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT. ASKING THE PHARMACISTS TO
TAKE A LOOK- ANOTHER PERSON WAS
COMING IN AND HAD ISSUES WITH
THEIR INSURANCE. CARD OR ASKING
CAN YOU. HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHY
MY INSURANCE. IS NOT BEING
ACCEPTED AND THEN THE
TRADITIONAL WORK OF FILLING
PRESCRIPTIONS SO. I THINK THE
ISSUE OF RATIOS IS A REAL ONE
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON
THIS AND COMMITMENT TO
CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT IN JUST
A NO- THAT. OUR PHARMACISTS ARE
OVERBURDENED AND IN SOME
COMMUNITIES. THESE PHARMACIES
ARE. MAKESHIFT YOU KNOW CLINICS
ON ANY GIVEN TIME OF THE DAY.
AND BEING ASKED TO GO WELL
BEYOND AND ABOVE- WHAT'S
REQUIRED SO. I SUPPORT THIS BILL
MOVING FORWARD. I THINK WE NEED
TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO
CERTAINLY KEEP THE PHARMACIES
OPEN BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT
FOLKS ARE NOT- HARMED BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT CAPACITY TO
DO THE STAFFING IN THE WORK
THAT'S- NECESSARY IN THAT. THE
COMMUNITY- IS OFTEN DESERVING IN
MEETING BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF
HEALTH CARE ACCESS IN THE STORES
BEING SO PRO PROLIFERATED ACROSS
COMMUNITIES WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT- THERE'S ADEQUATE SERVICE
AND SUPPORT SO I'M- EXCITED TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL MOVING FORWARD
AS A FIRST STEP IN THAT
DIRECTION. THANK YOU SENATOR
STERN WHEN THINK THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO ECHO
SOME OF THE CONCERNS MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE YOU KNOW WHAT
THE WEATHER'S A STAFFING RATIO
IT'S- IT'S MORE OF JUST MAKING
SURE THAT THESE PHARMACIST-
ENOUGH SHUTTING DOWN FOR THE
DAY. BECAUSE I MEAN IN ANY
BUSINESS LIKE EVEN OURS AND THAT
GOES WITH HOSPITALS TO. STAFF
SHORTAGES ALL OVER THE PLACE
EXPRESSION THE MEDICAL FIELD.
AND SECOND IS THAT YOU KNOW
PEOPLE DO CALL IN SICK. AND WHEN
THEY DO CONSECO DO WE SHUT DOWN
THE WHOLE PHARMACY FOR THE DAY
AND THEN NOBODY ELSE GETS. THE
MEDICATION AND THESE MEDICATION
FOR SOME FOLKS. DON'T NEED
IMMEDIATELY BUT OTHERS DO NEEDED
IMMEDIATELY WHERE DO THEY GO.
AND SO YOU KNOW- I APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMITMENT- MENTIONING TO
MY COLLEAGUES THAT YOU MOVE
FORWARD. I'M GONNA RESERVE- AND
SO AS YOU CONTINUE ON PLEASE
KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND I KNOW MY
DISTRICT IS ORANGE COUNTY BUT
DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU KNOW IT'S
AVAILABLE EVERY CORNER. YOU KNOW
IT'S SO THERE ARE AREAS
PARTICULARLY IN THOSE THAT ARE.
THE NEEDS MORE ETHNIC STAFFERS
OR STAFFING. AND YOUR SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE IT GETS MORE DIFFICULT
TO FIND THAT EXTRA STAFF. OR TWO
TO BE PLACED IN FOR THE DAY TO
KEEP THAT FIRST THAT- STORE
OPENED. FIVE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
AYE I APPRECIATE THAT NIGHT I
THINK INITIALLY WITH THE BILL
PART OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO
DEAL WITH WAS- THERE WERE
SITUATIONS WHERE PHARMACISTS WHO
THEMSELVES IS LIABLE FOR THE
CONDITIONS ANY ERRORS THAT.
OCCUR WERE HAVING SITUATIONS
LIKE RODENT INFESTATIONS ARE
SEVERE SITUATIONS FOR HEALTH AND
SAFETY TEMPERATURE ISSUES AND WE
WANTED THEM TO HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO IN A VERY TEMPORARY
BASIS- CLOSE A PART OF A
PHARMACY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY. WE TOOK THAT PART
THAT SPECIFIC PART OUT OF THE
BILL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO
EVER HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE
WERE RESTRICTING ACCESS. TO
PEOPLE WHO NEEDED MEDICATION SO
UNDER THE AMENDMENTS THE
PHARMACIST WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
CLOSE THE PHARMACIST AND INSTEAD
THEY WOULD NOTIFY THE MANAGEMENT
THEN THE STORE HAS TWENTY FOUR
HOURS TO BAIT. AND IF IT'S NOT
ABATED THANK THE PHARMACIST CAN
NOTIFY THE BOARD OF PHARMACY'S
WHO THEN CAN DO AN EVALUATION WE
THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO
ACTUALLY ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
RATHER THAN HAVE SITUATIONS
WHERE BECAUSE OF STAFFING OR
OTHER ISSUES THAT THERE'S ANY
RESTRICTION OF ACCESS. THANK YOU
SENATOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER CENTER
GLAZER FOLLOWED BY SENATOR
EGGMAN. THANK YOU CHAIR ROTH ON
. I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS
THAT YOU'VE TAKEN- ON THE BILL
AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF WORK
WENT INTO- NEGOTIATING THAT. I
HAVE FOR MY COLLEAGUES BENEFIT
THERE WAS A BILL ON. STAFFING
RATIO NINETEEN TWENTY NINETEEN
AUTHORED BY MAY I STEPPED IN IT
. AND IT WAS TO ALLOW THREE TO
ONE RATIO. PASSED THIS COMMITTEE
OKAY SO WE DID OUR WORK PASSES
COMMITTEE- BUT UNFORTUNATELY
THE- FELL FELL ON THE WAY SIDE
AS IT. PROGRESSED UP FOR SYMBOL
IN MY VIEW POLITICAL REASONS
NOT. HEALTH REASONS BUT POLITICS
THAT SWIRL AROUND THESE ISSUES.
AND APPRECIATE WHY IS NOT IN
THIS BILL- BUT I DO WANT TO- IT
REINFORCED SOME OF THE COMMENTS
IT MADE BY THE SENATOR FROM
SACRAMENTO- AND OTHERS THAT-
WHAT THIS BILL FOCUSED ON
CLOSURE. IT SEEMS LIKE THE
STAFFING PIECES KIND OF WAS IN
THERE AND NOW IT'S BECOME FOR
THE TO THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE THE
CLOSURE ISSUES KIND OF BEEN
RESOLVED AND- AND I DON'T THINK
IT'S NECESSARILY. RESOLVED
PROPERLY IN YOUR BILL- I THINK
THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED
ABOUT A RURAL PHARMACY WHERE THE
PHARMACIST THEMSELVES HAVE THAT.
TIME TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT
OF. AN ACCOUNT. AS A CLERK WOOD
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT
WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
PREVENTED YOU'D WANNA PREVENTED
IN YOUR BILL. AND CREATE THAT
STRESS AND STRAIN ON THESE TYPES
OF FACILITIES WHERE THE STAFFING
IS LOW FOR VARIOUS. REASONS NOT
FOR THE- BAD REASONS AND SO I
WOULD HOPE THAT. THAT WOULD BE
SOMETHING YOU COULD ADDRESS
TODAY OR CONTINUE TO WORK ON IN
THE BILL. BECAUSE I JUST THINK
THAT. IT'S KIND OF COULD BECOME
A CASUALTY OF THE RESOLUTION OF
THE CLOSURE ISSUE AND I DON'T
THINK THAT'S A FAIR ONE. THANK
YOU CENTER CENTER AGREEMENT. I
THINK YOU- AND THANKS TO THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER- I OPEN TO
SUPPORT THIS TODAY AND I'M
GONNA- A LINE MY SO MY COMMENTS
WITH THAT SENATOR ASHBY I JUST
WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORKING
ON THIS AND WORKING ON THE
OPPOSITION. AND I GUESS I AM I
FEEL LIKE WHEN THOSE PEOPLE
WHOSE- YOU KNOW HOLDING A START
SHAKING MY FINGER. AND SAYING WE
CREATED THIS I MEAN. AND TO THE
OPPOSITION RIGHT WE CREATED THIS
RIGHT WE HAVE ALWAYS NICE LONG
POP PHARMACIES FORTY NINER
PHARMACY I WAS THERE ALL THE
TIME. LADIES WORKED THERE FOR
FIFTY YEARS HUNDRED EURO
PHARMACY WE SHOULD ALL THAT ****
DOWN. RIGHT DOGGONE ALL WE HAVE
NOW IS CVS AND ALL THIS AND I
WILL FIGHT ABOUT DIFFERENT
THINGS- BUT IT REALLY IS ABOUT
HOW DO WE PROVIDE CARE. TO
PEOPLE RATE AND WE CAN JUST GET
BACK TO THAT HOW DO WE STOP
RIGHT NOW PROVIDE CARE TO PEOPLE
MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY
WANT PEOPLE ARE. STRESSED THEY
ARE WORKING HARD WHEN THEY WANT
TO GO TO PHARMACY WANT TO MAKE
SURE THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY
NEED. SO LET'S JUST KEEP WORKING
ON THIS. THANK YOU CENTER EGGMAN
THIS IS A POPULAR. SUBJECT DOES
SEARCH A LETTER YES THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AND I'M I REALLY
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND FROM WHAT I'M GETTING HERE
THAT YOU'RE STILL WORKING WITH
THIS AND THIS IS NOT THE END OF
IT. AND OF COURSE WE'LL SEE IT
AGAIN. MY CONCERN IS WHAT WE'VE
HEARD THE COMMUNITY THE PEOPLE.
OF WE HAVE SPANISH SPEAKING.
INDIVIDUALS WALKING A PHARMACIST
WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO.
COMMUNICATE WE HAVE OTHER ETHNIC
GROUPS WOULD LIKE TO
COMMUNICATE. THERE'S SO MANY
ISSUES THAT ARE. THAT ARE THERE.
TO HAVE. THE RIGHT STAFF THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE. QUALIFIED
STAFF WELL TRADE. CROSS STREET
WHATEVER IT'S GONNA TAKE TO
CONTINUE SERVING THE PUBLIC.
SHOW I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GOING
FORWARD- WITH THE SPIRIT OF.
WORKING TOGETHER SO I WILL GO
AHEAD. AND BORDER I OWN IT. AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SIR. IN ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HANEY. WELL YOU'VE DONE A
GREAT JOB. I WILL SAY THAT- YOU
KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME BOTH
IN THIS HOUSE IN YOUR HOUSE
TALKING ABOUT. NOW RURAL
HOSPITALS AND- TRYING TO KEEP
HEALTH CARE OPTIONS AVAILABLE
FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THESE
RURAL AREAS AND WE ALL KNOW THAT
PHARMACIES AND PHARMACISTS IN
PARTICULAR AT THE- MANY TIMES
THE POINT OF THE SPEAR IN
DELIVERING HEALTH CARE SERVICES
SO. AS THIS BILL MOVES FORWARD
AS I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL I WILL
BE SUPPORTING IT. HOPEFULLY YOU
WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT
THRESHOLD ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO
THESE LOW VOLUME PHARMACIES
PARTICULARLY IN RURAL AREAS OR
PERHAPS NON RURAL AREAS WHERE WE
DON'T HAVE THE PHARMACY SUPPORT
THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND SEE IF
THERE'S SOME. SOMETHING YOU CAN
WORK OUT. AS THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD NOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE. WELL I REALLY JUST I
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION
SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT I THESE
ISSUES WILL CONTINUE TO COME IN
FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE AND IT'S
GREAT TO HAVE SO MUCH INTEREST
AND KNOWLEDGE AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO PARTNERING WITH ALL OF YOU.
TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES BOTH IN ACCESS AND
PHARMACIES SAFETY- I. I BELIEVE
THIS BILL IS A STEP FORWARD I
HEAR FROM. CARE AND EVERYONE
THAT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT
HAVE THESE LOWER VOLUME-
PHARMACIES OF THE STAFFING THERE
YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THESE ISSUES OF STAFFING AND I
WILL DO THAT. AND YOU AND YOUR
STAFF WERE FANTASTIC THESE
AMENDMENTS MAKE THE BILL BETTER
THEY CLARIFY IT. AND THE ADDRESS
A LOT OF THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT
CAME FORWARD. AND A WITH THAT
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. WILL LET
US KNOW IF WE CAN HELP GOING
FORWARD. THE BILL BEEN MOVED. BY
SENATOR HUB MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE JUDICIARY PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. ROTH HI ROTH AYE WHEN.
WHEN NOW ALL OF OUR TO GO.
ARCHULETA ARCHULETA I ASHLEY HI
ASHLEY. BECKER DODD. EGGMAN
EGGMAN AYE GLAZER AYE GLAZER AYE
NAY LOW. PUBLIC SERVICE. SMALL
GROUP I WILL HA. BOB I WILL.
OKAY NOW. VOTE IS SEVEN TWO TO-
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. FINALIZA NUMBER
SEVEN. ASSEMBLY MEMBER GABRIEL
A. B. SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE. PLEASE
PROCEED ALREADY SIR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I
AM PLEASED 28% A. B. SIXTEEN
FIFTY NINE WHICH WOULD REDUCE
ELECTRONIC WASTE PROTECT OUR
ENVIRONMENT AND PROTECT
CONSUMERS. BY ESTABLISHING A
UNIVERSAL CHARGING INTERFACE FOR
SMALLER TRONIC DEVICES. MOST
CALIFORNIANS ARE NO STRANGER TO
THE JUNK DRAWER FULL OF
MISCELLANEOUS CHARGERS AND
CABLES WHICH OFTEN FIND THEIR
WAY INTO OUR LANDFILLS. MANY OF
US HAVE ALSO FOUND OURSELVES
FRUSTRATED WE GRAB A CHARGER
THAT DOES NOT MATCH OUR DEVICE
OR WE HAVE TO SPEND EXTRA
PURCHASING UNNECESSARY CABLE
THAT WE DON'T NEED. THE U. S.
PRODUCED BY THESE UNNECESSARY
CHARGING CABLES AND SECONDARY
DOCTORS HAS LEADS TO HARMFUL AND
TOXIC MATERIALS POLLUTING OUR
ENVIRONMENT. RECENTLY THE
EUROPEAN UNION IN INDIA TOOK
ACTION TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES
BY ESTABLISHING U. S. B. C. AS A
UNIVERSAL CHARGING INTERFACE FOR
SMALLER TRONIC DEVICES. AB
SIXTEEN SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE SIX
TO FOLLOW THEIR LEAD ON THIS
ISSUE BY ADOPTING USB C. AS A
UNIVERSAL STANDARD FOR CHARGING
INTERFACES ON NEW SMALL DEVICES
FIRST SOLD AND MANUFACTURED
AFTER TWENTY TWENTY SIX. THIS
MODEST COMMONSENSE CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS SUPPORTED BY
CALIFORNIA BY MENTAL VOTERS THE
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE AND THE NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL AMONG OTHERS. WE
ALSO WORK CLOSELY WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS
FROM APPLE GARMIN H. P. THE
CALIFORNIA MAXIMIAN FACTION
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. AND THE
CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
AND OF PUSH BACK THE
IMPLEMENTATION DATE FOR BOTH
LAPTOPS IN SMALL DEVICES. AND WE
ARE CONTINUED COMMITTED TO
CONTINUING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
BY MAKING THESE CHANGES WE CAN
PROTECT CONSUMERS AN ARM POINT
VARMINT AND AVOID MARKET
FRAGMENTATION AND HOPEFULLY
ELIMINATE THE DRUNK. JUNK
DRAWER. WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS DOUG
COBALT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA PRODUCT
STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL. THANK YOU
AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
EYEBALLS. PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
YOU FROM A MEMBER OF THE REAL.
JERRY BROWN AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS- CPSC IS. MUCH IN STRONG
. OF THE BILL- WE'VE- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GABRIEL FOR BRING THIS
FOR THIS BILL FOR THE- IT. TO OF
OUR CORPORATE BOOKS PRINCIPLE
WHICH IS ACTUALLY TO STOP THE
PRODUCTION OF WAYS TO BEGIN
WITH. THAT'S CALLED SOURCE
REDUCTION AND SO THAT'S WHAT
THIS IS DOING BECAUSE- AS WAS
MENTIONED BY THE BY THEM SOMEONE
NUMBER. WILL HAVE A BUNCH OF
CABLES IN OUR DOORS FROM OUR OLD
DEVICES THAT NO LONGER WORK- AND
SO IT THIS IS REALLY GETTING TO
THAT. THAT CORE ISSUE- I'VE
ASKED THE ODDS OF. THAT STARTED
ARMS TO HAND OUT A PACKET TO
YOU. IT'S ALL GO OVER THAT REAL
REAL QUICK KNOWING THAT THE WORK
LONG TO THE END OF THE DAY
ALREADY- SO ONE THING TO KNOW
RIGHT AWAY AS- THERE'S A LOT OF
CABLES OUT THERE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT CABLES- BUT- ONE THING
THAT'S COME. AS THE OF THE
EVOLUTION OF THESE CABLES IS HOW
FAST THEY ARE BUT WILL POINT OUT
THAT WIND U. S. B. CABLES WERE
CREATED THEY WERE REAL SLOW BUT
TWELVE GIGABITS ART. MEGABITS
PER SECOND THEY'RE NOW UP TO
TWENTY GIGABITS PER SECOND SO
THAT'S A SIX OVER SIXTEEN
HUNDRED TIME. INCREASE IN THE
SPEED OF THE OF THE- DEVICES OF
THE CABLES THE CAPABILITIES OF
THE CELL- ANY KIND INNOVATIONS
NOT BEING CURBED. BECAUSE THOSE
SEE USB C. HANDLE THAT SPEED.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT
THEY'RE DESIGNED TO DO- THERE
ARE. FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES THIRD
ONE THE TYPE. WHICH IS GOOD WE
AT WORK WHETHER WE'RE TRYING TO
GO GET ABOUT ONE THE TYPE. RT
TYPE AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE
LIGHTNING CABLE WHICH IS A
PROPRIETARY APPLE PRODUCT- THAT.
IS- CAN BE COSTLY AND SO. ON
YOUR SECOND THAT'S ON THE FIRST
PAGE ON YOUR SECOND DIAGRAM
THERE WERE WE GOT ABOUT THAT THE
UNIVERSAL COMPATIBILITY- I JUST
WANT TO POINT THIS OUT SO HERE'S
A DEVICE. THAT IS. ABLE TO
HANDLE MULTIPLE MONITORS
MULTIPLE DEVICES CONNECTED. TO
IT AND SHEILA THROUGH ONE CABLE
. AND I CAN CHANNEL. A U. S. B.
C. CAN. SO THERE'S NO LIMIT. ON
WHAT THIS. CABLE CAN DO WHAT
THIS GUY. CAN SO- I DON'T I WHY
THEY ARE THAT WILL NEED A BETTER
IDEA KIND OF CONNECT IN ORDER
HANDLE THE NOW EVEN THIS
COMPANY. HAD OWN FOR. CONNECTION
INTO THEIR DEVICE THAT WENT TO A
U. S. B. A TYPE OF CONNECTION.
AND IN THEIR LATEST VERSION
WHICH IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT
THAT SECOND PAGE. THEY WENT TO
THE U. S. B. C. SO HERE'S A PER-
PRODUCER OF MANUFACTURERS
ALREADY SEEN THE LIGHT. AND
THEY'RE ALREADY MOVING THAT
DIRECTION UNFORTUNATE ALL THE
PRODUCERS ARE DOING THAT SAME
THING NOT ALL STATE. G. WE CAN
JUST GO TO THIS ONE CABLE MAKE
IT EASIER ON CONSUMERS AND SO- I
WANT TO SHOW THAT THERE IS.
MOVEMENT IN THIS AND THERE'S NO
LIMITATIONS ON THAT SPEED CABLE.
IN THE FINDING WHAT I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT WAS JUST THE PRICING.
AND THIS IS WHERE IT HURTS THE
CONSUMERS. IF WE HAVE
PROPRIETARY CONNECTIONS THAT
MEANS WE'RE BUYING MORE
CONNECTIONS WERE BUYING
DIFFERENT CABLES- AND- JUST AS
AN EXAMPLE THE LIGHTNING CABLE
BY APPLE. IS TYPICALLY TWICE THE
COST. OR EVEN QUADRUPLE THE
COST. OF A SIMPLE USB CABLE THAT
CAN HANDLE THE SAME CAPACITY AND
SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO
DISCLOSE MY COMMENTS AND SAY FOR
ALL THE REASONS I SAID-
OCCUPANCIES IN FULL. IN A BE
HAPPY ANSWERED. THEY YOU SIR ANY
OTHER WITNESSES. IN SUPPORT. IS
THIS ON OUR BEHALF OF STOP WASTE
AND NATIONAL STORAGE OF KAKCHING
COUNCIL IN CALIFORNIA PRODUCTS
STORESHIP COUNSEL AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES. WITHOUT LET
CALIFORNIANS AGAINST WASTE AND
SMART THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED. SEEING NONE LET'S
TURN TO WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
LEAD OR OTHERWISE PLEASE STEP
FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON TURN
MEMBERS STEPHANIE MORROW HERE
ABOUT OF THE CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION WE ARE OPPOSED TO AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE. AS YOU HEARD
AB SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE WOULD
MANDATE THAT BY JANUARY FIRST
TWENTY TWENTY SIX VIRTUALLY ALL
SMALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES
EQUIPPED WITH THE U. S. B. C.
RECEPTACLE. ADOPTING THE SINGLE
CHARGING STANDARD AS THE BEST
AND ONLY PATH FORWARD. A NORTH
INNOVATION IS A KEY COMPONENT OF
OUR INDUSTRY. WE BELIEVE THAT AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE WILL CURB
INNOVATION AS MANUFACTURERS WILL
BE LOCKED INTO USING U. S. B. C.
TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S NOT INVESTING
AS MUCH IN RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT FOR NEW TECHNOLOGIES
THAT MAY BE MORE ENERGY
EFFICIENT. IT AB SIXTEEN FIFTY
NINE PASSES NEWER MORE EFFICIENT
TECHNOLOGIES COULD NOT BE
DEPLOYED IN THE CALIFORNIA
MARKET PLACE ABSENT A
LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. ELECTRONIC
MANUFACTURERS HAVE LISTEN TO THE
MARKET AND HAVE COALESCED AROUND
THREE COMMON TYPE CHARGERS WHICH
IS A FAR CRY FROM THE ROUGHLY
THIRTY BACK IN TWO THOUSAND AND
NINE. FURTHER FORCED
CONSOLIDATION IS NOT NECESSARY.
IF THE BILL IS TRYING TO CURB
ELECTRONIC WASTE FROM ENTERING
OUR WE STREAM WE BELIEVE THAT AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE COULD HAVE
THE OPPOSITE EFFECT. AND
INCREASE ELECTRONIC WASTE. NOT
ALL U. S. B. C. TYPE CHARGES OF
THE SAME AND CAN VERY AND
CHARGING CAPACITIES AND
CAPABILITIES. MEANING THAT INTEL
CONSUMER FINDS THE PERFECT
CHARGE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BUY
AND TRY NEW CHARTERS. AB SIXTEEN
FIFTY NINE WILL LIKELY NOT LEAD
TO AN OVERLY DRAMATIC REDUCTION
IN THE NUMBER OF CHARTERS
CONSUMERS PURCHASE. AS MANY
CONSUMERS WILL STILL BE
PURCHASING MULTIPLE CHARGERS FOR
THEIR DEVICES TO KEEP IN OUR
HOMES OUR CARS. OUR OFFICES
WHILE THEY TRAVEL EXCEPT. COME
CONSUMERS ARE ALREADY. IN
ACCESSORIES THAT ARE COME. WITH
OUR CURRENT PRODUCTS AND AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE WOULD MEAN
THAT FOR MILLIONS OF THE STATE
HAS DETERMINES THAT THESE
INVESTMENTS HAVE A FORCED
EXPIRATION DATE. LASTLY AB
SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE IS MODELED
AFTER EUROPEAN UNION DIRECTIVE
BUT LARGELY BECOMES EFFECTIVE AT
THE END OF TWENTY TWENTY FOUR.
THIS APPROACH INCLUDES
REGULATORY OVERSIGHT FOR THE
CONTINUOUS MONITORING OF THE
ROLL OUT AND IMPACTS OF THE U.
S. B. C. MANDATE. ALONG WITH
THEIR PRODUCT THE PRODUCTION OF
REGULAR REPORTS. WE BELIEVE THAT
IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO REVISIT
THIS APPROACH AT A LATER DATE IN
ORDER FOR CALIFORNIANS TO
EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS. OF
IT YOU PROPOSAL AND POTENTIALLY
MAKE NECESSARY CHANGES. TO STATE
LAW- THAT ADDRESS SHORTFALLS AND
ANY ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS
IDENTIFIED BY THE E. U.
IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. FOR
THESE REASONS AND OTHERS WE
OPPOSED AB SIXTEEN FIFTY NINE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. SEEING NONE
LET'S TURN TO THE TELECONFERENCE
ORVIS MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT
ANY INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE WILL
TAKE THEM NOW. IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO AB SIXTEEN FIFTY
NINE. PLEASE PRESS. ONE ZERO.
MISTER CHAIR THERE ARE NO
COMMENTS. OKAY LET'S BRING THE
MATTER BACK TO THE DAIS IN
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES. OKAY WE- CENTER NEW
LOW HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT
CENTER WILL HAVE ITS MOVE THE
BILL ANY OTHER HANDS UP. SENATOR
GLAZERS WILL FOLLOW SENATOR NERO
. ANYONE ELSE ANY LOW TAKE
ORDERS THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
SO. MANY ARE CHARGING DEVICES
HAS NOW WHITTLED DOWN TO JUST
THREE AND SEEMS TO ME THERE'S
TWO FACTORS- THAT HAS AND WILL
CONTINUE TO DRIVE- IN THE
ABSENCE OF YOUR BILL- CHARGER
DEVELOPMENT ONE IS COMPETITION-
IT WAS IT'S- BEEN STATED IN THE
ANALYSIS THAT- A CHARGER WILL.
KEEP A PERSON IN THEIR PRODUCT
ECO SYSTEM WHICH IS A
COMPETITIVE. STRATEGY THAT-
MAKES SENSE- BUT ALSO-
TECHNOLOGY THE CHARGERS TODAY
ARE MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE OF
TEN YEARS AGO. SO ARE YOU SOLVE
BOTH OF THESE THINGS- YOU STOP
THE COMPETITION AND EVERYBODY
BECAME SPARK COMES PART OF THE
SAME- PRODUCT- ECO SYSTEM IF YOU
WILL- BUT YOU ALSO STOP
INNOVATION. SO THERE'S NO WAY
THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO TRY TO
IMPROVE ON- THIS CHARGER THAT
YOU HAVE SELECTED- BEEN MANY
TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE
HAD- DIFFERENT PRODUCTS
AVAILABLE FOR THE SAME THING WE
ALL REMEMBER THE BETA TAPES. AND
VHS TAPES ON THE MARKET SETTLED
THAT ONE- WE HAD FLOPPY DISKS
AND THEN COMPACT DISCS AND- USB
DRIVES AND- THE MARKET PLACE HAS
KIND OF SETTLED THAT ONE HAS-
TECHNOLOGY HAS DEVELOPED- I
WOULD SUSPECT THE SAME THING
WOULD HAPPEN. HERE BUT BY DOING
THIS. YOU ELIMINATE ANY-
MOTIVATION ANYWAY FOR
TECHNOLOGICAL AND THAT-
ADVANCEMENT. SENATOR GLAZERS
NINE. WELL THE SENATOR FROM FAIR
OAKS IS MARTIKA WITHIN ME SO-
OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW THAT THEIR
SPIES IN MY CLOSET AND THEY KNOW
ALL THESE. CABLES ARE SITTING
THERE I HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T
STUDENTS AND IN THE LANDFILL THE
JUST SITTING THERE BUT I KNOW
THE INTENTIONS ARE GOOD BUT I DO
SHARE THE CONCERNS ABOUT
INNOVATION THINKING THAT THIS IS
IT BUT HEY. TECHNOLOGY AS A WAY
OF PROVING ALL OF US WRONG
PRETTY QUICKLY IN SUPPORT OF THE
RESPONSE TO THE AUTHOR ON AT
THAT POINT. YEAH ABSOLUTELY I
APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT I MEAN I
COULD JUST RESPECTFULLY- PUSH
BACK ON THE POINT THAT THIS IS
GOING TO STIFLE INNOVATION I
THINK THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY
WE'RE GONNA SEE IF OF INNOVATION
WE'RE GONNA SEE. IN THE CHARGING
SPACES CAN BE WIRELESS
TECHNOLOGY. SO ALL OF THAT IN
THAT IS AND THAT IS NOT SUBJECT
TO THIS BILL SO ALL OF THE WAYS
THAT WE NOW CHARGE DEVICES WHEN
YOU PUT IT DOWN ON SOMETHING OR
YOU KNOW I CAN PUT IT DOWN IN MY
CAR AND IT WILL CHARGE ALL OF
THAT INNOVATION IS GOING TO BE
ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AND BLOSSOM
AND GO FORWARD SO. THIS IS
LOOKING AT IT AND I THINK A LOT
OF WAYS THE MARKET HAS ALREADY
COALESCED HERE YOU HAVE- REALLY
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE THE IO
AND INDIA THAT HAVE ALL MOVED IN
THIS DIRECTION SO THIS IS JUST
TALKING ABOUT. FOR THOSE
SITUATIONS. WHERE YOU HAVE THESE
CABLES. THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO
AHEAD AND PICK ONE BECAUSE WHAT
WE HAVE THE SITUATION WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW. IS WE HAVE A LOT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE AND WE HAVE
A LOT OF COST TO CONSUMERS. I
THINK ONE OF THE FALLACIES
UNDERLYING THE BILL IS THAT- AND
UNDERLYING THE ARGUMENTS FROM
THE OPPOSITION IS THAT. THESE
DIFFERENT CABLES ARE SOMEHOW
NECESSARILY BETTER. MAKE A LOT
OF WHAT THIS IS THAT THEY FOUND
OUT THAT THEY CAN MAKE MORE
MONEY. BY BY SELLING YOU A
DIFFERENT CABLE INCLUDED IN THE
PROJECT AND THEY'RE FORCING YOU
TO BUY A DIFFERENT CABLE. THAT'S
PROPRIETARY TO THEIR DEVICE.
OFTENTIMES I THINK. MAYBE NOT
ANY BETTER OR WORSE THAN THE
OTHER CABLES. WORSE THAN U. S.
B. C. SO. I THINK WE'RE STILL
ALLOWING FOR A LOT OF INNOVATION
IN THE SPACE PARTICULARLY IN THE
IN THE WIRELESS CHARGING SPACE I
THINK THIS IS ALL HEADING. WE'RE
SIMPLY TRYING TO PUT. HAVE A
LITTLE BIT OF COMMONSENSE
CONSUMER PROTECTION. AND ALSO TO
PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO OVER
THE SOUNDS LIKE YOUR CLOTHES.
WOULD YOU MAKE CLOTHES- I WOULD
JUST SAY- I JUST HATE IT. THANK
YOU. YOU KNOW WE DO WE HAVE- IF
YOU LOOK AT THE ROOF SINGLE
REMAINING OPPOSITION WHICH IS
THE CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION. IF YOU LOOK AT
THEIR LETTER. I THINK WE'VE
ADDRESSED THE MAJORITY OF THE
THINGS THAT THEY'VE RAISED- IN
THE IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE
AUTHORS AUTHOR MA'AM IT'S ACTED
COMMITTED TO CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION BUT WE THINK THIS
IS. A COMMONSENSE CONSUMER
PROTECTION. ACT RIGHT UP THERE
WITH JUNK FEES AND RIGHT TO
REPAIR AND ALLOWING FOLKS TO
CANCEL WITHIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS
SO WITH THAT WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
SIR THE BILL HAS BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR WILL HOP THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO SENATE JUDICIARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ROTH HI
ROTH I. WHEN NOW OF OUR THE
GUILT. OF ARTICLE I ARCH ALETTA.
PARTULA AYE ASHBY AYE. ASHBY AYE
BAKER. DODD A- EGGMAN AYE GLAZER
. HELLO NO MILANO. SMALLER
CREDIT. OKAY THIS I. BOB PEOPLE
HAVE I. WELCOME I. KERN VOTE IS
EIGHT TO TWO. HOLD ROLE OF FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. NO PLEASE INFORM
LET'S. I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. HANG ON IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO AB EIGHT
THREE FOUR WHO MADE THE MOTION.
OKAY CENTER WILL HUB. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ROTH HI ROB I
WENT. WHEN I OVER TO KILL. A
VIRGO I ARCHULETA. AYE ARCHULETA
AYE ASHBY. ASHLEY I'D- DOT.
EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE GLAZER PLEASE
R. I. NI LOW. MEAL I SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS SMALLER CRITICIZED HAN.
HA I WILL. I BAKER. BAKER I.
VOTE IS CLOSER THE CAN. CALENDAR
IS. LET'S TAKE UP FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE. A. B. TWO EIGHT TWO.
BUT I THINK CENTER JULY JUST THE
MOST SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT
TO HIM THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS CALL THE
ROLL ON AB TWO EIGHT TWO. ROTH
HI ROB I WENT WHEN I ALREADY
KILLED FIVE OF OUR GILL I
ARCHULETA ARCHULETA AYE ASHBY.
ASHBY AYE BECKER AYE BAKER I DIE
. A AT AYE GLAZER AYE GLAZER
NERO NEAR THE ICE MY WOULD
CRITICIZE OUR CHRIS I WILL HOP
NINE WILL HAVE I WILL. GROW BY
VOTERS TWELVE ZERO THAT MATTER-
WHICH. CALL THE ROLL ON I
NUMBER. THREE IS. A TWELVE. ZERO
SEVEN CURRENT IS TO SURE- WHEN I
OF OUR TO GET. DODD EGGMAN
EGGMAN AYE GLAZER. PLEASE R. I.
SMALL CREVICE HI. MARCUS I KNOW-
IT'S NOW I DON'T KNOW. A NO I
DON'T. I TO KNOW. CANNABIS SPACE
OKAY LET'S LET'S SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS HE SAID I KNOW I TELL. NO
I DON'T REALLY DIDN'T REPORT-
LET'S CLARIFY THIS THIS IS. AND
YOU'RE READY. THIS I REMEMBER
THIS. RAM JUST SO YOU YOU YOU
WATER OF STAYING ON AB TWO
EIGHTY TWO. OKAY. THIS IS FOR
BELL THOSE THAT. RIGHT. TWELVE
OH SEVEN. ATTENTION I NOTED I
FOR ONE THING HI. I REGIONAL
ROLL CALL. NO I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T
. HE DID OF STAYING I DON'T
THINK RIGHT AND I'M SHE OKAY
OKAY THE SENATE VOTED I OKAY.
TO IT'S MINE TOO BECAUSE WE HAVE
TO BECAUSE WE HAVE SORT OF A BIT
OF STANDING IN SERVICE MODE
SIXTY FIVE NG. RIGHT I DIDN'T
MAKE IT OKAY A WOMAN FROM IS I
CAN PEOPLE WELL AS.
OKAY OKAY. CURRENT VOTE IS
EIGHTY TWO THAT BILL IS OUT
LET'S TAKE ITEM NUMBER FOUR MAKE
SURE IT'S IS AB EIGHT NINE THREE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. HAPPENED AND
THE CURRENT VOTE IS NINE TWO
ZERO SURE VOTING- A PLAN WHEN I
STARTED EGGMAN EGGMAN I'D
GLAZERS GLAZER AYE CURRENT VOTE
IS TWELVE ZERO THAT MATTERS OUCH
. LET'S TAKE UP THE ITEM NUMBER
FIVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER RUBIO A. B.
ELEVEN SEVENTY ONE OF THE
CURRENT VOTE IS A TEN ZERO SURE
VOTING- WHEN I DODD. THE LOW.
OVER THE FIVE THIS IS NUMBER
FIVE. IF STATE. CURRENT VOTE IS
ELEVEN TO ZERO THAT BILL IS OUCH
. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SIX
SUSE. SINCE AB TWELVE EIGHTY SIX
RIGHT THANK. THE CURRENT VOTE
IS- SEVEN TO CHEER VOTING- I
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
OF OUR TO KILL BAKER. AYE BAKER
AYE DODD NAY LOW NO. MILANO.
CURRENT VOTE IS EIGHT TO THREE
THAT MEASURE IS OUT. THE ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN A. B. SIXTEEN FIFTY
NINE CURRENT VOTE IS EIGHT TO
TWO SURE VOTING- BAKER. HI BAKER
AYE DODD GLAZER. KERN VOTE IS
NINE TO THE BILL IS OUT AND WITH
THAT WE HAVE CONCLUDED TODAY'S
AGENDA OF THE SENATE BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE THANK YOU
EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING WE
ARE ADJOURNED. THE COURT.