WHAT THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE WILL COME
TO ORDER SO GOOD MORNING TO YOU-
THE SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME
THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS. FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. THREE FIVE TWO FIVE NINE
ZERO FIVE. WE'RE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN THE
OLD STREET BUILDING AND I EXPECT
THAT MEMBERS ARE GOING TO- SHOW
UP ONCE THEY HAVE PRESENTED
THEIR BILLS OVER IN THE ASSEMBLY
BUT WE ARE IN ROOM TWELVE
HUNDRED. AND AS I SAID WE'RE
GOING TO BE STARTING AS A SUB
COMMITTEE UNTIL WE GET A QUORUM
I HAVE SEVENTEEN BILLS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA. THE FOLLOWING
BILLS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY
FILE NUMBER THREE AB EIGHT THREE
SEVEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ
FILE NUMBER SIXTEEN AB FOURTEEN
SIXTY NINE BYE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
KALRA FILE NUMBER SEVENTEEN AB
SEVENTEEN THIRTY FOUR BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER JONES SAWYER
SAWYER. THAT THAT LEAVES US
WITH- AND ALSO FILE NUMBER
TWELVE AB ELEVEN SEVENTY SIX BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS A BURGER. THAT
LEAVES US WITH THIRTEEN ITEMS
WITH FIVE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT.
THE CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA ITEMS
TODAY ARE FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX
AB THIRTEEN THIRTY FOUR BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER PELLERIN. FILE
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AB. AT TEN OO
TO BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER IRWIN FILE
ITEM NUMBER NINE AB FIFTEEN
HUNDRED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER IRWIN
FILE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN AB TEN
TWENTY FIVE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
DIXON AND FILE ITEM FIFTEEN AB
THIRTEEN SIXTY ONE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER HOOVER. SO. WE
HAVE AN ASSEMBLY MEMBER PRESENT
I AM SO EXCITED ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PELLERIN- THAT WILL START WITH
FILE ITEM NUMBER AB NINE SIXTY
NINE AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR-
TIMELINESS SALUTE LEE. GOOD
MORNING. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
SENATORS I WOULD LIKE TO START
BY THANKING THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR WORKING WITH MY OFFICE ON
THESE CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS AND
I HAPPILY ACCEPT THEM. IN
JANUARY OF THIS YEAR THE SHASTA
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
TERMINATED THEIR VOTING SYSTEM
CONTRACT I LEFT THERE COUNTY
WITHOUT A STATE CERTIFIED
FEDERALLY QUALIFIED VOTING
SYSTEM. THE COUNTY PLANS TO
CONDUCT THEIR ELECTIONS VIA
MANUAL TALLY WHICH TAKES TIME A
LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO HAND
COUNT IT IS NOT AN ACCURATE WAY
TO COUNT BALLOTS. SHASTA
ESTIMATES IT WILL COST UPWARDS
OF FOUR MILLION DOLLARS TO HAND
COUNT BALLOTS FOR THEIR HUNDRED
AND TWELVE THOUSAND REGISTERED
VOTERS. FURTHERMORE IT IS
UNCLEAR WHETHER SHASTA COUNTY
CAN FULFILL ITS LEGAL
OBLIGATIONS REGARDING REPORTING
UNDER THE ELECTIONS CODE IF THEY
DO NOT UTILIZE AN ELECTRONIC
VOTING SYSTEM. HASTILY
TERMINATED VOTING SYSTEM
CONTRACTS RESULT IN HIGH COSTS
AND UNCERTAINTIES. CONCERNING
HOW ELECTIONS OFFICIALS WILL RUN
THEIR UPCOMING ELECTIONS AND
ADVERSELY IMPACT VOTERS. SENSED
EACH VOTING SYSTEM HAS UNIQUE
FEATURES ELECTION STAFF AND
VOLUNTEERS AND CHAVEZ COUNTY
WILL HAVE TO BE RETRAINED AND
NEW VOTER INFORMATION MATERIALS
WE NEED TO BE PRODUCED. AND NOW
WE ARE LESS THAN FIVE MONTHS
AWAY FROM A PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
ELECTION. A VOTING SYSTEM
INCLUDES THE ELECTRONIC VOTING
HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE INCLUDING
VOTING MACHINES AND TABULATORS.
THESE VOTING SYSTEMS AND THEIR
CONTRACTS ARE EXPENSIVE AND NOT
EASILY INSTATED OR CHANGED FOR
EXAMPLE IN MY DISTRICT THE
COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA HASN'T
ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENT OF ONE
POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS TO
SUPPORT THEIR VOTING SYSTEM.
WHAT AB NINE SIX NINE DOES IS
SIMPLE IT PREVENTS A
JURISDICTION FROM TERMINATING AN
EXISTING VOTING SYSTEMS CONTRACT
WITHOUT HAVING A REPLACEMENT
CONTRACT READY TO GO. THIS BILL
DOES NOT PREVENT A JURISDICTION
FROM DECIDING TO TERMINATE
VOTING SYSTEM CONTRACT IT SIMPLY
STATES THAT SAYS THAT THEY MUST
HAVE REPLACEMENT SYSTEM. AT THE
TIME THAT THEY DO TO DO THAT DO
TERMINATE THEIR EXISTING
CONTRACT. AB NINE SIX NINE ALSO
PROHIBITS AN ELECTIONS OFFICIAL
FROM PERFORMING A MANUAL COUNT
IN ANY CONTEST AND WHICH THERE
ARE MORE THAN A THOUSAND
ELIGIBLE REGISTERED VOTERS A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR DAYS IN
ADVANCE OF THE ELECTION. AB NINE
SIX NINE AIMS TO REFLECT THE
REALITY OF RUNNING AN ELECTION
IN THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY. AND
THE IN FEASIBILITY OF HAND
COUNTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
BALLOTS WITH MULTIPLE BALAKAN
TEST. WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT IS JAMES GOOSE THE CO
CHAIR OF THE CA CEO LEGISLATIVE
COMMITTEE AND THE REGISTRAR
VOTERS FIRST OF OUR FRESNO
COUNTY. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING
CHAIRMAN CABALLERO AND CENTERS
I'M JAMES GOOSE FRESNO COUNTY
CLERK REGISTER VOTERS AND HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS
AND ELECTION OFFICIALS
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. C. A. CO
SUPPORTS A. B. NINE SIX NINE.
THIS BILL PROVIDES CLARITY TO
COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICIALS
REGARDING THE TOPIC A MANUAL
BALLOT TABULATION. THE BILL
FURTHER DIRECTS THE SECRETARY OF
STATE TO GET GENERATE RULES AND
REGULATIONS FOR ALL MANUAL
TABULATION PROCESS SEES IN THE
FUTURE. MAKING THESE VERY
IMPORTANT VERIFICATION PROCESS
HE'S UNIFORM ACROSS THE STATE
AND MORE UNDERSTANDABLE TO THE
VOTING PUBLIC. CA CEO GREATLY
APPRECIATE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PELLERIN THIS DESIRE TO ENSURE
THAT VOTERS IN EACH COUNTY WILL
ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED VOTING
SYSTEM IN PLACE TO ENSURE OPEN
ACCESSIBLE AND ACCURATE
COLLECTIONS. THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. YES GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS HAD MOLE
HAUSER BEHALF OF SECRETARY OF
STATE SURELY AND WEBER PHD HERE
IN SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY BILL NINE
SIX NINE THANK THE AUTHOR. FOR
CONTINUE WORKING THIS AREA FOR
THE COMMITTEE AND ASSISTANCE IN
CLARIFYING APPROVING THIS BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR IN OUR
MEMBERS TO TAMPER WITH ASKED ME
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF AB NINE
SIX NINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS
THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. SEEING NO ONE IS
THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. MY NAME
IS PATRICIA BABY I AM AN
AMERICAN CITIZEN AND A
REGISTERED NO PARTY PREFERENCE
CALIFORNIA VOTER AND ALAMEDA
COUNTY CONSTITUENTS OF SENATOR
GLAZER WHO IS NOT PRESENT. I
URGE YOUR NO VOTE ON AB NINE
SIXTY NINE IT PROHIBITS LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS FROM CHOOSING
THEIR PREFERRED CERTIFIED VOTING
SYSTEM THEREBY BEING CONTROLLED
BY CENTRALIZED STATE MANDATE. IT
IS A FALSE DILEMMA TO HAVE ONLY
OPAQUE PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE OR
BLACK BOX VOTING SYSTEMS VERSUS
A MANUAL VOTE COUNTING SYSTEM.
DOMINION BARS ELECTION OFFICIALS
FROM FULL OVERSIGHT YOU'VE ALL
RECEIVED AND WE TRUST YOU HAVE
ALL REVIEWED ALL THE FEDERAL
ADVISORY SECURITY ANALYSIS IN
CALIFORNIA SUPERIOR COURT
TESTIMONY EVIDENTIARY REFERENCES
SUBMITTED TO YOUR OFFICES. THESE
ARE SYSTEM THE CYBERSECURITY AND
INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AGENCY
ADVISORY PART OF THE U. S.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY. THE HALDERMAN
REPORT A SECURITY ANALYSIS OF
GEORGE'S DOMINION VOTING SYSTEM
SUBMITTED TO U. S. DISTRICT
COURT. THE UNITED STATES
ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION
TENNESSEE DOMINION CODING
ANOMALY INVESTIGATION ALL WHICH
ARE DOCUMENTED GOVERNMENT AGENCY
AND COURT EVIDENCE OF DOMINION
VOTING SYSTEM FAILURE. MOST
IMPORTANTLY CALIFORNIA VOTERS
NOW HAVE A LEGALLY VERIFIED
RECORD OF DOMINION VOTING SYSTEM
FAILURE WHICH RESULTED IN A
FALSELY CERTIFIED ELECTION
LEADING TO A COURT ORDERED
DECERTIFICATION. THE OAKLAND
UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT AREA
DISTRICT FOR TWO THOUSAND TWENTY
TWO ELECTION CASE SUCH AS
INVERSES RESNICK SUPERIOR COURT
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF ALAMEDA. DOMINION'S
FAILURE DEEMED THE WRONG
CANDIDATE AS THE WINNER THE
COURT ORDERED REVIEW OF PAPER
BALLOTS CONFIRMED HEIRONEOUS
SETTINGS CAUSED INCORRECT
TABULATION. THE DEPUTY R. O. V.
COURT DECLARATION CONFIRM THE
NECESSITY TO HAVE DOMINION
VERIFY THIS DISCREPANCY AND CURE
THE SOFTWARE SETTINGS. TO HAVE A
COMPLAINTS WERE ALSO FILED
REGARDING PAPER BALLOTS NOT
MATCHING THE OFFICIAL CAST VOTE
RECORDS. DOMINION VOTING SYSTEM
CEO JOHN PALOS RECENTLY SAID HIS
COMPANY IS LIKELY GOING OUT OF
BUSINESS. THE THIS FAILURE WILL
BE THIRTY NINE DOMINION YOUR-
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES IN A-
POSITION. SENATORS THE REAL
URGENCY HERE IS THAT AB NINE
SIXTY NINE MUST END NOW. THE
SHASTA COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS HAS EVERY REASON TO
QUESTION THE RELIABILITY OF
DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS AND ANY
VOTING SYSTEM WHICH HAS. PROVEN
DEFICIENT IN NUMEROUS
JURISDICTIONS INCLUDING ALAMEDA
COUNTY. JOIN THOSE OF US WHO
CARE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
PROCESS. TRUTH IN ELECTIONS
RESULTS AND CITIZEN TRUST. THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS
THERE ANY ONE ELSE. MY NAME IS
CALLING BRITAIN WITH THE
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT
CALIFORNIA WE STRONGLY OPPOSE A
BE NINE SIXTY NINE SEVERAL
MONTHS AGO SHASTA COUNTY'S BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS MADE THE DECISION
TO ELIMINATE THE COUNTY'S
RELIANCE ON ARGUE OVERLY. FALSE
FAULTY AND HOW GLOBAL ELECTRONIC
SYSTEMS RETURN TO PAPER BALLOTS
AND HAND COUNTS BEFORE DOING SO
THEY HEARD EXTENSIVE SALES PITCH
BY ALL CALIFORNIA APPROVED
ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS COMPANIES.
THEY ALSO HEARD PRESENTATIONS BY
EXPERTS IN THE FIELD OF HAND
COUNT MANAGEMENT OBTAINING A
STEP BY STEP MANUAL OF HOW IT
CAN BE AND IS BEING DONE
ELSEWHERE. EIGHTY NINE SIXTY
NINE WAS INTRODUCED COMPLETE
WITH THE URGENCY STATUS TO
QUICKLY STOP OTHER COUNTIES
ATTEMPTS TO BREAK AWAY FROM THE
SYSTEMS THAT ARE SOME SUSPECT
AND POTENTIALLY PRODUCE
MANIPULATED ELECTION RESULTS.
CONSIDER THAT CANADA ENGLAND
GERMANY ITALY FRANCE AMONG OTHER
NATIONS AND EVEN SOME U. S.
COUNTIES PREVIOUSLY USED THE
SAME ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS NOW IN
USE IN CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS
MUCH OF THE U. S. AND OBJECTIVE
ANALYSIS FOUND THAT THOSE
SYSTEMS. TO BE DANGEROUS DUE TO
THEIR MANY OPEN DOORS FOR
MANIPULATION. CONSIDER THAT
THOSE COUNTRIES AND
JURISDICTIONS HAVE BANNED THE
USE OF THOSE ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS
AND NOW HOLD ONE DAY PAPER
BALLOT IN PERSON ONLY ELECTIONS
THAT DELIVER TRANSPARENT
ECONOMICAL AND ACCURATE HAND
COUNTED RESULTS WITHIN TWENTY
FOUR TO THIRTY SIX HOURS.
CONSIDER THAT THIS IS WHAT THE
PEOPLE OF SHASTA COUNTY WANT. IF
PASSED AB NINE SIX NINE WILL FOR
EVER REMOVE THE RIGHTS OF
COUNTIES INCLUDING SHASTA TO
SELECT AN ELECTION PLAN BASED ON
THEIR NEEDS. IT WILL FOREVER
REMOVE THE RIGHTS OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTIES TO DETERMINE FOR
THEMSELVES HOW TO BEST DELIVER
FAIR HONEST AND TRANSPARENT
ELECTIONS WITH RAPID AND
ACCURATE RESULTS. THOSE OF US
WHO BELIEVE THAT WE THE PEOPLE
ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND DON'T
GIVE OUR CONSENT TO THIS KIND OF
GOVERNMENT OVERREACH WILL
CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR VOICES
HEARD. WE ARE ENDOWED BY OUR
CREATOR WITH THE RIGHT OF SELF
GOVERNANCE WE UNDERSTAND AND
EMBRACE THAT RIGHT WE URGE A NO
VOTE. ON A. B. NINE SIX NINE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD
LIKE TO ADD ON IS A ME TOO. HI
MY NAME IS JANET PHELPS I'M WITH
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT
CALIFORNIA AND I ALSO OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
GREGORY KRAMER ON BEHALF OF
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA I'M
LATE BUT- REGISTERING SUPPORT
FOR THE BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU
SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE.
OKAY I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA MOVE
ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
AND MODERATOR IF YOU COULD
PLEASE QUEUE UP ANY INDIVIDUALS
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
EITHER IN SUPPORT. OR IN
OPPOSITION NOW IS THE TIME.
THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME
AGAIN IT'S ONE ZERO. IN FIRST
CAROLINE. SIXTY FOUR. SIXTY FOUR
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. THANK YOU YES
MY NAME'S DANIEL SHOCKLEY ON
WERE IN. WESTERN CALIFORNIA IN
OUR COUNTY WE DO NOT USE THE
MILLION HIS HEART MACHINES WHICH
ALSO. ARE UNRELIABLE AND HAS NOT
BEEN VERIFIED- AND NEVER
ACTUALLY HAVE I'M SORRY BUT
RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
THE ME TOOS YOU CAN EITHER SAY
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION OR IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND WE'RE
GOING TO DO THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE
WE HAVE. BELIEVE FORTY SEVEN
PEOPLE ON THE LINE WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE- HEAR FROM
EVERYBODY. OKAY YOU YES I AM IN
- OPPOSITION TO AB NINE SIXTY
NINE THANK YOU GREAT THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ONE FIFTY THREE. MY
FROM THE- CALLING MONNING THINK
HOW. AFTER COUNTY A STRONGLY UP
FIFTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE
EIGHTY EIGHT. HI MY NAME IS
RAYMOND COMPLY FROM SHAH COUNTY
AND I SAW THE- THANK YOU. LINE
THIRTY TWO. FIVE MY NAME IS MARK
ZERO I WITH THE ORGANIZATION
CALLED ELECTION TRACKER TEAM
ALAMEDA COUNTY CALIFORNIA AND I
WORKED AN ALUM COUNTY WORKER.
SINCE TWENTY NINETEEN THE ORDER
B. ALSO AS AN OBSERVER TELL I'M
BUT I JUST NEED FOR YOU TO TELL
US- WHETHER YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION
OR SUPPORT. I. WHAT MANY IN LINE
IF. MY NAME IS AMY YOUNG I
STRONGLY OPPOSE NINE SIX NINE
THANK YOU. AND LINE FIFTY FIVE.
YEAH MY NAME IS PRO BOTH- AND I
POSE NINE EIGHTY NINE SIX NINE.
THANK YOU. LINE. EIGHTY TWO.
EIGHTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
MY NAME IS JEFFREY I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
LINE EIGHTY. HELLO MY NAME IS
LAURA HOBSON I STRONGLY OPPOSE
AB ONE SIX NINE THANK YOU THANK
YOU. NINE FIVE. AND IF I PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOALLINE NINETY THREE.
MICHELLE CONNOR SOLANO COUNTY
RESIDENTS IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH I AIN'T HEARD ME
LINE THIRTY EIGHT. JACKIE
CAMPBELL SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY
STRONGLY OPPOSE. LINE. THIRTY
THIRTY THREE IF I HAD. THANK
RURAL ALAMEDA COUNTY OPPOSE
STRONGLY. LINE SEVENTY SEVEN.
LINDA RICH PLASTER COUNTY I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB NINE SIX NINE
BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU. LINE. NINETY ONE.
EIGHTY HELLO LAUGHTER COUNTY
CONSERVATIVE ACTION GROUP I
OPPOSE. EIGHTY NINE SIX NINE.
LINE TWENTY NINE. YES HI
ASSURING A LARGE. WITH BARBARA
COUNTING AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR
TITLE FIFTY TWO GOVERNMENT SHALL
NOT IMPOSE I STRONGLY OPPOSES
DAHLE EITHER VOEPEL THINKING
HERE. LINE. THIRTY SIX. RIGHT
WHEN MYERS WITH LAUGHTER COUNTY
CONSERVATIVE ACTION GROUP I
STRONGLY OPPOSE IT YEAH. THANK
YOU I KNEW LINE. TWENTY EIGHT.
REMARKABLE CLASSIC FOUND
ELECTION AND PROJECT. STRONGLY
OPPOSE. THANK YOU I AM FORTY
NINE. IN DRAMMEN COMBO. I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB NINE SIX NINE
THANK YOU. NINE SIXTY NINE- SIX
NINE. WE'LL GO TO LINE SIXTY
SIX. BRITAIN RUSSELL PAGER FOR
CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AND THIS BILL.
LINE. NINETY EIGHT. MY NAME IS
DEEPAK CHOPRA PLASTER COUNTY
CONSUMER REACTION GROUP STRONGLY
POPE THE UNITED. NINE THANK LINE
SIXTY. WHEN THE GRANDPARENTS
COUNTY I STRONGLY OPPOSE A. B.
EXPLAINED NINE AT FIRE AYE
OPPOSED BILL THANK YOU. IN LINE
TWO. YES EVEN STEINBERG
CONSERVATIVE OF CAN I OPPOSE
SELF. BY NINE FOUR. YOU HEAR ME
WE CAN HEAR YOU YOU'RE IN THE
ROOM HI I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL MY NAME IS UNITS MILLION
FROM SOLANO COUNTY THANK YOU
THANK YOU. LINE SIXTEEN.
VICTORIA ANGELINI SUTTER COUNTY
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE. EIGHTY
NINE SIX NINE. LINE THIRTY ONE.
AMBANK SACRAMENTO COUNTY AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB NINE SIX
NINE. LINE FORTY. FRENSHAM
REGISTERED VOTER IN SHASTA
COUNTY AND I SUPPORT AT LEAST
NINE SIX NINE. LINE EIGHTEEN.
CHERYL SHRINK ORANGE COUNTY
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS OVER REACH OF EIGHTY NINE
SIX NINE. NINE THIRTY SEVEN.
CINDY ROACH- WITH THE ELECTION
INTEGRITY TEAM OF ALAMEDA COUNTY
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
. LINE. FORTY TWO. DAVID CRAIG
EVERDEEN ACADEMY I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS OVER REACH IN AB
NINE SIX NINE THANK YOU. FIND
FIVE. RALEIGH GALLAGHER IN
SOLANO COUNTY I OPPOSE NINE
SIXTY NINE FRANCE DID IT WE CAN
DO IT ALSO. I KNOW LEVIN. MARK
MALLORY CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AYE
OPPOSED AB NINE SIX NINE. NINE
TWENTY SIX. YES SHASTA COUNTY I
ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE THIS TERRIBLE
BILL. LINE FORTY SIX. HOUSTON
SAN BENITO COUNTY STRONGLY
OPPOSE NINE SIX NINE. LINE
FIFTY. THE SECOND ISSUE SAN
MATEO COUNTY I STRONGLY OPPOSE
A. B. NINE SIX NINE. NINE FORTY
SEVEN. FORTY SEVEN. THE LINE
FIFTY ONE. YES THIS IS A JOB
FLOW SHASTA COUNTY- I AM
ESPECIALLY OPPOSE THIS BILL IN
ITS URGENCY STATUTE IT DOES JUST
THE OPPOSITE. JUST YOUR NAME
ANALYZE ATION IN ORDER FOR
OPPOSE PLEASE. I APOLOGIZE WHAT
NINE FIFTY FOUR YEAR OLD. FIVE
FOUR. WE GOT A LINE. TWENTY
FIVE. TWENTY FIVE YEAR OPEN. AND
WE GOT A LINE FIFTY SEVEN. HI MY
NAME IS TAMMY RICHARDSON I'M
WITH FRESNO COUNTY LEGAL MODERN
I STRONGLY OPPOSE A. B. NINE
SIXTY NINE. I AM FIFTY NINE.
NEAR ME. WE CAN HEAR YOU CAN. I
STRONGLY WANT A. B. NINE FIFTY
NINE AM IN SUPPORT AND SHASTA
COUNTY. THANK YOU. LINE. TWELVE
LINE TWELVE I WENT TO BED MY
NAME IS LIZ LAGI AND I AM
DEFINITELY IN OPPOSITION TO A.
B. NINE SIX NINE. THANK YOU.
WHAT LINE SIXTY TWO. MARIAM CALL
ALAMEDA COUNTY- VOTER WITH
DISABILITY I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. LINE THIRTY FOUR. YES
MY NAME IS MINDY PATCHWORK I
STRONGLY OPPOSE NINE SIXTY NINE
AND I'M A CANDIDATE FOR STATE
ASSEMBLY AND IT SHOULD BE- THANK
YOU VERY MUCH BYE EVERYONE NEXT
PLEASE. SIXTY SEVEN. HELLO MY
NAME IS RHONDA PROVOST FROM
PATRIOT FORCED OF POIGNANT
CINEMACON. I OPPOSE A. B. NINE
SIXTY NINE THANK YOU. I'M. SIXTY
EIGHT. HI THIS IS DEAN PALMER
I'M FROM LAFAYETTE AND CONTRA
COSTA AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
NINE SEVENTY THREE. HIS OPPONENT
ORANGE COUNTY OPPOSE NINE SIXTY
NINE. THANK YOU THANKS. SEVENTY
NINE. ALAMEDA COUNTY I AM
BECAUSE THEY NEED LIKE SUPPLIES
. NINE EIGHTY ONE. YES THIS IS
STEPHANIE FOR A LACK FROM
SACRAMENTO COUNTY I ABSOLUTELY
OPPOSE OVER REGION TRYING TO
CONTROL EVERY. LINE. EIGHTY
THREE. MY NAME IS TYLER BAGLEY
FROM YUBA COUNTY RECORDED BILLS
YUBA SUTTER FREEDOM RELIES BE
FEW HELLO THE BILL. NINE EIGHTY
FOUR. HI MY NAME IS CHELSEA I'M
FROM COUNTY ALREADY VOTER AND I
HOPE MICHAEL YOU SAW. THANK YOU
. LINE. EIGHTY FIVE. NO BUT HOLD
ON OF ISRAEL YOU ACTION GOING TO
THANK YOU. LINE A SEVEN. IT
COMES LATE AND BENITO COUNTY ICE
OPPOSED BILL. FINE. EIGHTY NINE.
WELL YES THE NEW CAN BLAZE FROM
SHASTA COUNTY I DON'T WANT THIS
INFORMATION BASED ELECTION SO I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK
YOU. I NINETY. GAIL SALTZ I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. I. NINETY SIX.
I. NINETY SIX. MEXICO. NINETY
SEVEN. THE WINNING OF THE BACK
ACCOUNT NEXT OPPOSE. LINE ONE OF
FOUR. MARY RUSSELL CHEN COUNTY I
AM OPPOSE. AND ONE OF. YOU KNOW
HOW FONG MONEY WITH ME CALL FOR
STATE AND I. OPPOSE THE WALL. I
WON TEN. A MINIMUM OF THE FREE
AND POSING THIS BILL BECAUSE IT
VERY THAT. LINE NINETY FIVE.
I'LL CALL YOU NINE SIXTEEN. THE
A LAKE ARE. LINE SEVENTY EIGHT.
YES YOUR ATTENTION ARE WHERE
ALLEN THE COUNTY OR- O. B. U.
THE WRONG SAY ON RANCHO VOTING
AND IT MADE IT HE MADE A MISTAKE
SORRY I HAVE YOUR NAME IN YOUR
SUPPORTER. PLEASE I LINE ONCE.
NUMBER THEIR POWER CAL I FROM
OPPOSE. NINE SIXTY NINE. HANG IN
JUST A MOMENT HERE. SO I'LL JUST
THAT WOULD LINE. FIVE LET ME
START SOMEBODY COUNTY ARE YOU A
FULL NINE SIXTEEN IT. LINE ONE
TWENTY EIGHT YEAH THERE'S ORDER
WE CAN US I NAY IS JAMES HELLO.
I'M CONTEMPLATING HOW. I
STRONGLY AT THIS BILL. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AND LINE MAY FIVE. MY
NAME IS A LIVE SORRY FROM SOME
OKAY. ARE YOU NOW SIXTY NINE
ELECTIONS ARE WE NEED YOU VERY
MUCH LET LIKE VERY MUCH. AND ONE
MORE HERE WE GOT LAW- IN THIS
MONTH ON THE NUMBER YET. AND LOG
IN ONE WORD OF WHAT A ONE FOR
ONE. YEAH THIS IS LINDA QUINLAN
FAMILY OBISPO STRONG OPPOSED AB
. NINE NINE. MEN FOR THEIR QUEUE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MODERATE
APPRECIATED IT I THINK WAS
APROPOS THAT IT WAS MISSION
IMPOSSIBLE PLAN. YEAH AND I'LL
JUST IT IS APROPOS THAT WE JUST
LOST OUR QUORUM SO WE'LL JUST
WAIT A MINUTE AND- WILL BE ABLE
TO GET IT BACK UP AND WE'RE
BRINGING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS QUESTIONS
AND CONCERNS CENTER DOLLY. WELL
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND I WANT
TO- FIRST THIS OBVIOUSLY CAME
FROM OF MY DISTRICT THE READER
THE GENESIS BEHIND THIS BILL AND
I WANT TO SAY THAT- I DON'T
AGREE WITH- EVERYTHING THAT THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ACTIONS
TOOK PLACE IN MY COUNTY IN THE
COUNTY I REPRESENT. BUT AT THE
SAME TIME I CAME OUT OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENT- SIXTEEN YEARS I
SERVED ON THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS WHERE WE HAD THE
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO. DO WHAT
WE WANTED TO DO HOW WE WANTED TO
DO IT AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR
CONSTITUENTS WERE SERVED- I
SERVED ON THAT TIME AS WHEN WE-
SAW. THE ELECTION NATIONAL
ACTION WHICH WAS VERY HEATED
DEBATED ABOUT HANGING CHADS AT
THE TIME AND- SO I WENT THROUGH
THAT PROCESS- AND WE DID. AT
THAT POINT CHANGE OUR VOTING
SYSTEM EVEN IN A LASSEN COUNTY.
AT A SIGNIFICANT COST- I WILL
SAY I DID TALK TO THE COUNTY-
THE CLERK WHO RUNS ELECTIONS IN
SHASTA COUNTY- A COUPLE OF DAYS
AGO AND THERE IF THEY DO HAVE A
STE NEW SYSTEM THAT CERTIFIED-
THAT THEY PURCHASED IN PLACE-
AND THERE ARE. A LEARNING THAT
SYSTEM AND SO THINGS HAVE
SETTLED DOWN IN THE COUNTY-
SINCE THE AUTHOR OF THIS BILL
OKAY FOR SO. FOR ME IT BOILS
DOWN TO LOCAL CONTROL AND THE
ABILITY FOR. LOCALS TO CHOOSE
THEIR DESTINY ON WHAT SYSTEMS
THEY- WILL- CHOOSE- AND WE'VE
HAD A SYSTEMS IN PLACE FOR A
LONG TIME I'M VERY CLOSE FRIEND
WITH- A DOCTOR WEBER WHO WAS
THE- SECRETARY A- SECRETARY OF
STATE- WE SERVED IN THE ASSEMBLY
TOGETHER I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH
HER. ON WHAT THE RULES ARE AS
FAR AS- WHAT COUNTIES CAN AND
CAN'T DO UNDER- ARE. ALREADY
STATE LAW AND HER OFFICE. AND
HER OFFICE HAS BEEN ASSISTING
THE CLERK- IN SHASTA COUNTY SO I
WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY I BELIEVE THAT- THEY MIGHT
TO JUMP THE GUN- AND NOT HAVE
SOMETHING IN PLACE BUT THEY DO
HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND I
WANT TO. HAVE THAT ABILITY FOR
LOCAL CONTROL AND LOCALS TO BE
ABLE TO- NOT HAVE THE OVER
ARCHING. A STATE COME IN AND
TELL THEM HOW TO DO THEIR
LECTIONS- AND AS SOMEBODY WHO
RAN FOR THIS OFFICE BECAUSE I
WAS REALLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE
STATE MANDATES THAT. ARE FORCED
DOWN ON TO COUNTIES- THAT'LL BE
THE REASONS I WILL BE OPPOSING
THE BILL TODAY. OKAY I'M
INTERRUPTED AT THIS RIGHT NOW IT
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM SO
LET'S TAKE ROLE. SENATORS
CABALLERO HERE CABALLERO PRESENT
SEYARTO HERE SEYARTO PRESENTLY
EXPERIENCE. DALI DOLLY PRESENT
TO WRESTLE. GLAZER LAKE GLAZER
PRESENT SKINNER. SKINNER PRESENT
WIENER YOU HAVE A QUORUM. WE
HAVE A QUORUM OTHER COMMENTS YES
SENATE WANT ONE LAST COMMENT I
WANT TO- I WISH A SENATOR GLAZER
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY AND THAT WAS
HIS WIFE CALLING AND IT WAS NOT
MY PHONE AND I NEEDED TO TAKE
THAT CALL SO HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.
THIS. NO WONDER HE HAD IT ON MY
IF. SENATOR GLAZERS HAPPEN
ANNIVERSARY. FOR OTHER COMMENTS
. HE SEND THEY ARE. TO THANK YOU
. MY COMMENTS ARE OF A LONG THE
SAME LINE IS MICHAEL. FROM
BEAVER- AND- SO HIS HIS SPEED
WHERE HE'S FROM IT'S EASY TO
REMEMBER NOW BEEPER. SO ANYWAY-
WE ALL YOU KNOW THE- SOME. OF
OUR STATE FEDERAL AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTY AND LOCAL
AND CITIES ARE PART OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. THEY ALL
HAVE A ROLE IN IT I IN IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR US TO PRESERVE
THOSE ROLES AND ONE OF THE
THINGS SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE-
IN THE LAST THREE YEARS IS I'VE
I'VE NOTICED THAT. WITH THAT THE
LINE IS GETTING MORE AND MORE
BLURRED AS TO WHO DOES WHAT AND
YOU KNOW IN IN A CASE LIKE THIS
THEY HAVE A BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS. AND IN MANY CASES
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS A-
CONSIDERED- A MUCH LOFTIER ROLE
THEN THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND
AND THEY ANSWER TO CONSTITUENTS
IN THEIR COUNTY. AND IN THOSE
THEN THAT'S HOW THEY ARE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE AND IF THEY WANT TO
SWITCH TO SOMETHING THAT COST
FOUR MILLION DOLLARS AT
SOMETHING FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS
TAKE TO AFFECT OUR TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY'RE DOING
THEIR ELECTION. AND SO IT. YOU
KNOW AND I THINK THIS IS THE
STATE KIND OF MOVING OUT OF ITS
LANE AND INFRINGING. ON WHAT. IS
A COUNTY A TRADITIONAL THE IT'S
A COUNTY ROLE. AND IN AND SO YOU
KNOW I'M GONNA I'M- I'VE I CAN'T
SUPPORT THIS BILL- BECAUSE OF
THAT AND IN THIS IS GOING TO BE
COMING UP BIG B. EIGHT RECURRING
THEME FOR ME. BECAUSE I'M I'M
SEEING A LOT AND- THE ISSUE WITH
THAT IS THE MORE YOU BLUR THOSE
LINES- THE MORE. PEOPLE BECOME
DISTRUSTFUL OF GOVERNMENT AND IN
STATE GOVERNMENT FOR NOT
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEIR ROLE
IS. AND AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS
I'M I'M GONNA BE OPPOSING THIS
BILL- SO- IN THIS HAS NOTHING TO
DO WITH ELECTION THAT'S WHY THEY
HAVE AN ELECTIONS COMMITTEE
THANK GOD- THIS HAS TO DO WITH
THE ROLES OF STATE LOCAL AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND- AND-
THEN THIS IS INFRINGING ON- THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. UNDER GLAZER.
THANK YOU CHAIR- I'D HAD A
QUESTION AND THEN A COMMENT-
DOES THAT DOES YOUR BILL-
PROVIDE FOR A STATE TAKEOVER OF
THE ELECTION SYSTEMS AND ANY
COUNTY OF CALIFORNIA. PERHAPS A
LOT WE NOT. OKAY IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT THE ON THE RECORD THE I AM
THE ELECTIONS CHAIR IN THIS TO
GO THROUGH THE ELECTIONS. AND ON
ISSUES OF LOCAL CONTROL I THINK
THEY'LL BE YOU'LL FIND FEW IN
THE SENATE THAT COMPETE WITH ME
ON- FEEL T. TO- LOCAL CONTROL.
BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS NOT LOCAL
CONTROL THE ISSUE IS THE
INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTION
PROCESS IN CALIFORNIA. BECAUSE
WE RELY UPON IT AND IT'S
IMPORTANT TO THE CREDIBILITY
THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THE WORK
THAT WE DO. AND SO AS I
UNDERSTAND THIS BILL IT'S
ESTABLISHING STANDARDS. FOR HOW
I COUNTY HAS TO CONDUCT
THEMSELVES. IN A WAY THAT
ENSURES THE INTEGRITY. OF THE
PROCESS THE INTEGRITY OF THE
ELECTION WHICH I KNOW THAT SOME
OF THE OPPONENTS CLAIM IS THEIR
VIRTUE IN RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT
THIS BILL. BUT IT IS SOMETHING
THAT WE SHARE. AND WHEN THIS
BILL WAS HEARD IN THE ELECTIONS
COMMITTEE IT CERTAINLY WAS THE
CLARION CALL. FOR WHY THIS IS A
GOOD BILL. BECAUSE OF THE
IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING THE
INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTION WHERE
EVER IT HAPPENS IN OUR STATE.
AND AS I READ THIS BILL IN THE
AUTHOR CAN CORRECT ME. IF
SETTING STANDARDS FOR HOW IF
YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE AND IT
DOESN'T PROHIBIT. I COUNTY FROM
CHANGING. BUT IT SAYS IF YOU DO
THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE CHOICES THAT YOU MAKE.
PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE
ELECTION PROCESS FOR ALL OF OUR
INTERESTS THE INTERESTS OF OUR
DEMOCRACY. AND THAT'S WHY I
THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY BILL
GOOD BILL AND NEEDED BILL GIVEN
SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE
HAPPENING IN OUR STATE. CHOICES
THAT THEY CAN MAKE. THE WE'RE
GOING TO INSIST THAT WE HAVE
INTEGRITY WHEREVER IT HAPPENS IN
THE ELECTION PROCESS IN
CALIFORNIA WITH THAT I'M HAPPY
TO MOVE THE BILL AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. CENTER SKINNER
. I THANK YOU. I HAVE A
QUESTION- I. I SUPPORT THIS BILL
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO DO BUT I ALSO- NO THAT
FOR EXAMPLE INVITE COUNTY. THERE
WAS A- SERIOUS ERROR IN A RANKED
CHOICE ACCOUNTING. AND MY COUNTY
AS FAR AS I KNOW DOES USE- THE
VENDORS THAT- THE APPROVED
VENDORS. SO I AM CURIOUS AS TO-
YOU KNOW THAT NOT EVERY COUNTY
HAS RANKED CHOICE OR EVERY CITY
HAS OR WHATEVER HAS RANKED
CHOICE AND WHETHER. THESE THE
SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED TO COUNT
RANKED CHOICE OR NOT SO. I'M HI
JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW WE'RE
ACCOMMODATING FOR THOSE KIND OF
DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS. SO YES I DO
HAVE TWENTY SEVEN AND A HALF
YEARS SERVING AS THE CHIEF
ELECTIONS OFFICIAL. HAVING
WORKED THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT
VOTING SYSTEMS. AND THE REALITY
IS YES MISTAKES OCCUR THERE'S NO
ELECTION THAT'S PERFECT AND ARE
USUALLY CAUSED BY HUMANS. SO
WHEN AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING
DOING A HAND COUNT HUMAN COUNT
THE BALLOTS IS JUST NOT AN
EFFICIENT. ACCURATE WAY FOR
PEOPLE TO COUNT BALLOTS AND- AND
UTILIZING THESE SYSTEMS THESE
VOTING SYSTEMS ARE FEDERALLY
QUALIFIED STATE CERTIFIED HAVE
TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE RIGOROUS
VOTING SYSTEM STANDARDS AND
THEY'RE THEY'VE GOT RIGOROUS PRE
TESTING AND POST TESTING. AND
THEN DURING THE AUDIT THE CAMPUS
WE DO HAND COUNT TO VERIFY THE
MACHINE CAL SO I REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS HEALTHY DEBATE
TODAY I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WHO
HAS CONCERNS TO ACTUALLY GO AND
VISIT YOUR ELECTIONS OFFICE AND
OBSERVE THEIR PROCEDURES SO YOU
HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. OF
WHAT GREAT EXTENT ELECTIONS
OFFICIALS GO TO ENSURE THE
INTEGRITY OF THE VOTING SYSTEM
AND THE ACCURACY. SET THEM- YOUR
AVAILABLE BILL HICKMAN NO NO I
AM. I GOT A- RIGHT THAT OCCUR IS
MOST LIKELY WHAT HAPPENED IN
THAT CASE AND THESE VOTING
SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED TO
DO RANK CHOICE VOTING. THEY
WEREN'T AT ONE POINT IN TIME
RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A BALD GUY
WAS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES EVERY DAY
YEAH I WAS MOSTLY AND OF COURSE
I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT ENOUGH
BUT IT WAS MOSTLY UNDERSTAND.
THAT IF YOU ARE USING SUCH A
MACHINE SYSTEM. THEN IT WAS THE
WHY WOULD THEY THEN TURNED TO
CAN'T COUNTY BUT THE IT'S OKAY
WE CAN LEAVE IT- RIGHT I THINK
ENCOUNTERING CHOICES THAT WOULD
BE. HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS
NUMBER ONE I MEAN I KNOW I KNOW
THAT THIS BILL CAME ABOUT.
BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED SHASTA
COUNTY AND YES IT DOES SEEM ODD
THAT THE- BOARD THAT. GOT
ELECTED BY THE MACHINES THAT
THEY GOT RID OF IS AWKWARD. AND
YOU MIGHT HAVE BUT BUT THE GIST
OF IT IS THERE ARE. ALREADY IN
THE SYSTEM STE MACHINES THAT ARE
CERTIFIED BY THE STATE. AND
THERE ARE DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF
THOSE MACHINES IN DIFFERENT WAYS
THEY DO IT. AND SO. THE OTHER
OPTION IS THE BOARD CAN HAVE AND
HAND COUNT THAT WAS WHAT THEY
ELECTED TO DO BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T HAVE AND THEY DID NOT.
TAKE A CHOICE OF THE MACHINE
COUNT. SINCE THEN I SHOULD SAY
AND THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND
THERE IS ROOM FOR ERROR THERE'S
ALSO ROOM FOR MECHANICAL WHERE-
WHEN IT COMES TO MACHINES AS
WELL SO. THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT
YEAH AND THE COST WAS ESTIMATED
AT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS- BUT I
WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT SINCE THEN
. THEY ACTUALLY FIT FIT PICTUS
CERTIFIED MACHINE THAT'S BEEN
CERTIFIED BY THE STATE AT A
LESSER COST AND WHAT THEY
ORIGINALLY HAD. AND ARE MOVING
FORWARD WITH A THE ABILITY TO BE
ABLE TO SCAN THE BALLOTS THROUGH
THE MACHINE AND THEN ALSO VERIFY
BY- HAND COUNTING AS WELL SO
THERE REALLY IS. NO NEED FOR
THIS BILL THE COUNTIES HAVE THE
ABILITY TO THAT AND THE PEOPLE
OF THEIR COUNTY CHOOSE TO ELECT
THEM AND THEY WANT TO MAKE
DECISIONS SUCH AS HAND COUNTING
WHICH IS IN MY OPINION. NOT A
GOOD ONE BUT THAT'S THEIR CHOICE
THEN THE PEOPLE THAT COUNTY WILL
EITHER LIKE THEM OR NOT TO LET
THEM TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND
THAT I THINK IS THE POINT- THAT
I WANT TO. BRING ACROSS IS THAT-
WE'VE HAD A SYSTEM IN PLACE
WHERE AND THERE ARE MANY
DIFFERENT SYSTEMS IN OUR STATE.
BUT THE SYSTEM'S OURS THE HEAD
OF THE- MECHANICALLY. ACCOUNTED
ARE CERTIFIED AND THEY MUST BE
CERTIFIED TO THE ALREADY HAVE TO
SURVIVE THE STATE SO I JUST
WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR- THIS
IS ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL THIS IS
ABOUT THE ABILITY. FOR COUNTIES
TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ARE BAD.
AND SOMETIMES THEY MAKE BAD ONES
THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH BUT WE
SHOULDN'T. HAMMER THEM THEY HAVE
ALREADY CERTIFIED SYSTEMS IN THE
STATE THAT'S THE POINT THAT WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
UNDERSTAND. SO I THINK
EVERYBODY'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK- ME JUST SAY THAT I HI-
I ALSO SERVED IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS
AND SO FOR ME LOCAL CONTROL IS
REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT I WANT TO
AGREE WITH THAT CENTER GLAZER
THIS IS. NOT ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL
AND SENATOR WHEN I LOOK AT THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE BILL AND ME
AND WILL ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE
AND YOU CAN. CONFIRM OR- CLARIFY
IF I MAKE A MISTAKE- IT SETS IT
SETS UP THE- THIS THIS IS NOT
GOING TO TELL COUNTIES THAT THEY
HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. I MEAN
BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES. IS IT IS
IT IS IT SETS UP THE PROCESSES.
AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE HOUSE
SO THAT SO THAT. SO THAT THEY
CAN MAKE DECISIONS RIGHT SHOULD
THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS. WHAT IT
DOES THE ONE THING IT DOES. IS
PROHIBIT THE ELECTIONS OFFICIALS
FROM PERFORMING A MANUAL VOTE
COUNT- WHERE THERE'S- MORE THAN
A THOUSAND ELIGIBLE. REGISTERED
VOTERS AND- AND SO THEY HAVE TO
HAVE A SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO
COUNT THOSE WITHIN THIS THAT.
THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS NOW IF
THEY WANT TO GO BACK. AND CHECK
THE- THE ELECTRONIC COUNT WITH
THE MANUAL COUNT THAT'S TOTALLY
WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW BUT THEY'VE
GOT TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC COUNT SO
THAT THAT- IT'S CLEAR BY THE
STATUTORY DEADLINES. THAT THERE
HAVE BEEN WINNERS AND LOSERS
AND- MEANING IN AN ELECTION
CENTS SO ON. TO ME THIS IS THIS
IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE
DON'T DO THIS IN A VACUUM WE ALL
HAVE TO- WE ALL ALL OF THE CITY
THAT THE- STATE ELECTED
OFFICIALS ALL SWITCH IT AT AT
THE SAME TIME THE FEDERAL
OFFICIALS IN THE SAME. IN THE
SAME CAPACITY SO- I THINK THE
INTEGRITY OF THE LIKE THE
ELECTION PROCESS IS REALLY.
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND- WITH
THAT I WOULD ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE AND IF YOU COULD
ADDRESS PLEASE THE- AMENDMENTS
I'M I'M NOT SURE I HEARD WHETHER
YOU'RE GONNA YOU GONNA BE TAKING
THEM AM I DID I L. ALREADY TAKE
THOSE THAT. YOU VERY. YEAH SO
YOU MAKING. THANK YOU. SO LET ME
BE PER CLEAR. THIS BILL DOES NOT
PER. A SUPER. FROM SELECT A OF
THE STATE CERTIFY FAIRLY
QUALIFIED VOTING SO. IT'S AN
SAID THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET
RID OF ONE. YOU NEED TO ALSO
HAVE A REPLACEMENT READY TO GO
SO IT'S SEAMLESS SO VOTERS ARE
PROTECTED DEMOCRACY'S PROTECTED
AND WE NEED TO HAVE THESE
CONSISTENT UNIFORMITY. VOTING
SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA TO ENSURE NUMBER ONE
THAT THERE ACCESSIBLE WE MUST
HAVE A VOTING SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS
A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY TO
VOTE INDEPENDENTLY AND
PRIVATELY. THAT THEY ARE
ACCURATE THAT THEY ARE SECURE
AND THAT THEY ARE TRANSPARENT SO
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. VERY GOOD- WE DO HAVE A
MOTION CENTER GLAZER MADE THE
MOTION. RURAL MOTIONS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO I SEE R.
TWO. SEYARTO NOPE SPEAR. DOLLY
DALI NO WRESTLE. GLAZER GLAZER
AYE SKINNER AYE SKINNER I WIENER
. THREE TO. WILL PUT THAT ON.
FOR THE ABSENT THANK YOU FOR
MUCH. WE MOVE ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE WHICH IS.
MORNING CHAIR AND SENATORS I'M
HERE TODAY TODAY TO PRESENT. AB
FOUR FIFTY SEVEN. I AM PLEASED
TO TAKE THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
AS WELL. WHAT AB FOUR FIFTY
SEVEN DOES IS PROVIDE A VERY
LIMITED. EXEMPTION TO THE
SURPLUS LAND ACTS FOUR PIECE OF
PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OF
ROCKLIN INTENDS TO. LEASE OUT TO
SOMEBODY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY
WILL ALWAYS STAY WITHIN THE
CITY'S. PURVIEW BECAUSE THEY
INTEND TO BUILD AN OVERPASS AT
THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION BUT YOU
KNOW TO RAISE THAT TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GOING TO
TAKE QUITE SOME TIME TO GET THAT
DONE. I'M I WILL SAY THAT
ROCKLIN IS HAS BEEN VERY PRO
HOUSING MY TIME ON THE CITY
COUNCIL THEY NEVER AT DENIED A
SINGLE PROJECT. AND YOU NOTICE
ALSO THAT SOME OF THE HOUSING
GROUPS THAT TYPICALLY BENEFIT
FROM THE SURPLUS LAND ACT LAWS
ARE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
PARTICULAR MEASURE BECAUSE- THEY
KNOW THAT I'M SERIOUS ACTOR ON
THIS AND NOT TRYING TO GET
AROUND ACT CALIFORNIA IS A
HOUSING RULES OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT SO. MMHM WITH THAT SO
OBVIOUSLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS I LET THE CITY MANAGER
IN ROCKLIN STE STAY HOME AND
KEEP THE KEEP THE CITY WORKING
TODAY SOME VERY GOOD. IS THERE
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL IF SO
PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR
NAME FOR THE RECORD. ALL SIT
NEXT THING THEN IS THERE ANYBODY
IN OPPOSITION- THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS THEIR NEIGHBOR
WITH THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION WE HAD AN
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION-
BUT OUR- CONCERNS HAVE BEEN
RESOLVED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS AND WE'VE- WE'VE-
WITHDRAWN ARE OPPOSITION. ONE OF
INK THE AUTHOR FOR WORKING WITH
US AND- MISTER PETERSON'S WELL
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU SO
MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN
OPPOSITION. WHERE THEY WANT TO
DO WITH THEIR OPPOSITION. SINGH
MEMBER GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE MODERATOR IF
YOU COULD QUEUE UP INDIVIDUALS
THAT WANT TO SPEAK EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION OF
EIGHTY FOUR FIFTY SEVEN.
CERTAINLY THANK YOU AND IF SO
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO ON YOUR
TOUCH TOUCH TONE KEYPAD AGAIN
IT'S ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. GIVE
ME A MOMENT HERE I KNOW BUT WE
DO HAVE A COUPLE GIVE ME JUST A
MOMENT. WE CAN FIRST GO TO LINE
TWENTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
HI- THIS IS RELAUNCH. AND I'M
JUST I'M JUST CALLING TO LET YOU
ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE WERE ON THE
LINE LAST L. AND THE- OPERATOR
DID NOT CALL THE LINE FOR THEM.
THIS IS AGAINST OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS PURCHASE A
PAID IN OUR HEARING. SO YOU'RE
IN THERE YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW YOU
HAVE A COMMENT IN OPPOSITION OR
IN SUPPORT OF AB FOUR FIFTY OUT
OF MY THAT'S MY POSITION THAT
YOU NEED A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATE IT
. AND MEXICO LINE SEVEN. JOE
HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME. WE CAN.
HI YEAH MY NAME IS DANIELLE FROM
PLASTER COUNTY AND- I OPPOSE
EIGHTY NINE SIXTY NINE AND- I
KNOW WE'RE NOT ON NOT ONE BUT I
DID NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY SO
THANK YOU FOR HEARING AYE
OPPOSED. TO BE NINETY SIX. OKAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH. EXORA LINE.
ONE TWENTY THREE. YES I ALSO
COULD NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT
EIGHTY NINE SIX NINE AND I AM
CODES THANK YOU- HE CALLED IT
AND GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT HERE.
WE CAN GO TO LINE. ONE THIRTY
TWO. GOT IT. YOU PLEASE GO AHEAD
OKAY. LIKE LIKE ONE THIRTY TWO
YEAR OPEN. HELLO. HELLO I DID
NOT GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK AGAIN
EIGHTY NINE YEAH MY NAME IS
APRIL NINTH SACRAMENTO COUNTY
AND I AM. NINE NINE THANK YOU
THANK YOU. SO I HAVE LINE ONE
NINETEEN. YES I DAHLE COULD NOT
GET A CHANCE OPPOSE NINE NINE
I'M A CAPTAIN MCBRIDE OF HEALTH
PARENTS AND I STRUGGLE OPPOSE
EIGHTY NINE NINE THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. CEMEX HAVE LINE
ONCE. ONE- HELLO MY- RAUNCHY AND
ALSO I DID NOT GET TO. COME IN A
NINE NINE I OPPOSED TO AT THE
CORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AND
CURRENTLY NO NONE FURTHER IN Q.
VERY GOOD SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE AND FOR THOSE
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON THE
TELECONFERENCE ON IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SUBMIT- YOUR NAME AND
YOUR OPPOSITION TO ANY OR
SUPPORT FOR ANY BILL YOU CAN DO
THAT IF WE'VE ALREADY PASSED IT
ON SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU
STAYING ON THE LINE AND- AND
THAT LETTING US KNOW- WERE ON
IT. AB FOUR FIFTY SEVEN ANY
COMMENTS CONCERNS OUR MOTION ON
THIS. CENTER DOLLY MOVES THE
BILL I DON'T SEE ANY MORE-
CONVERSATION SO ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE. GREAT WELL AB FOUR
FIFTY SEVEN HAS THAT NO
OPPOSITION AND ASK FOR A YEAR I
HAVE A THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. PLEASE THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
FLOOR. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
SENATORS CABALLERO HI CABALLERO
ICE HERE TO SEE OUR TO- I PLAY
EXPERIENCE DOLLY. DALI I WOULD
ALSO GLAZER GLAZER AYE SKINNER
AYE SKINNER AYE WIENER. FIVE
ZERO. THAT- VOTE. THAT IS OUT
BUT WE'LL PUT IT ON CALL FOR THE
ON THURSDAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATORS THANK YOU. DR VEINS. AT
FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR AB EIGHT
NINETY TWO.
DR MEANS THE FLOOR'S YOURS
DOESN'T THANK YOU THANK YOU
CHAIR MEMBERS AB EIGHT NINE TWO
IS A DISTRICT BILL. WHICH
CLARIFIES THAT KERN COUNTY
HOSPITAL AUTHORITY AND ITS
ASSOCIATED ENTITIES ARE SUBJECT
TO THE MBA THE BROWN ACT AND THE
C. P. R. A. KERN COUNTY WAS
AUTHORIZED TO CREATE THEIR KERN
COUNTY HOSPITAL AUTHORITY BY
NOVEL ENABLING LEGISLATION
PASSED IN TWENTY FOURTEEN AND
TWENTY FIFTEEN. THIS CHANGE WAS
CRITICAL TO ENSURE THE LONG TERM
FINANCIAL HEALTH OF KERN ONLY
PUBLIC HOSPITAL WHICH HAS SERVED
THE COUNTY SINCE ITS INCEPTION
IN EIGHTEEN SIXTY SEVEN WHILE
THIS NEW GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE
HAS CREATED MANY NEW
OPPORTUNITIES IT ALSO HAS
CREATED SOME NEW CHALLENGES.
ENSURING THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF
KERN MEDICAL IS OF PARTICULAR
IMPORTANCE TO ME AS A HOSPITAL
IS WHERE I COMPLETED MY CLINICAL
ROTATIONS DURING MEDICAL SCHOOL
AS WELL AS MY RESIDENCY I BECAME
A DOCTOR BECAUSE OF THIS
HOSPITAL. I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT
KERN MEDICAL IS TO THE MOST
UNDERSERVED RESIDENTS IN KERN
COUNTY THE HOSPITAL HAS A MEDIC
CAL CASELOAD NORTH OF SEVENTY
PERCENT. AND IS ALSO OUR
REGION'S ONLY LEVEL TWO TRAUMA
CENTER WITH THE CLOSEST TRAUMA
CENTER BEING AND FRESNO. WHICH
IS SEVERAL HOURS AWAY. LOSING
KERN MEDICAL WOULD MEAN LOSING
LIVES AND AS A CLOSURE MADERA
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL HAS SHOWN US
THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY CANNOT
AFFORD TO LOSE A SINGLE HOSPITAL
CLINIC OR DOCTOR. THE VALLEY IS
ALREADY ONE OF THE LARGEST
HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE
AREAS IN THE NATION AND OUR
RESIDENTS NEED MORE HEALTH CARE
INFRASTRUCTURE NOT LESS. UPON
INTRODUCING AB EIGHT NINE TO AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR I
ASKED S. C. O. U. N. CURRENT
MEDICAL TO WORK THROUGH MY
OFFICE TO ENGAGE IN A
COMPREHENSIVE. AND CONSENSUS
BUILDING DIALOGUE ABOUT THE
FUTURE OF THE HOSPITAL THESE
CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING
WEEKLY AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE
ARE CLOSE TO REACHING A FINAL
AGREEMENT WHICH WILL ENSURE A
STABLE WORKFORCE BUT THE
HOSPITAL. IN A STRONG FINANCIAL.
FOOTING AND PROVIDE APPROPRIATE
COUNT ABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
MEASURES. I WANT TO THINK S. CI
YOU AND HER ABOUT. FOR AGREEING
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING
THE FINAL PRODUCT OF THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. AS THERE ARE
GOING THE BILL ELSE'S NOTES A
PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION WHICH
MUST BE ADDRESSED IN THIS FINAL
AGREEMENT. THE USE OF THE WORD
FUNDED ASKED CURRENTLY IN PRINT
COULD. BE INTERPRETED TO BE
OVERLY RESTRICTED AND HAVE A
CHILLING EFFECT ON GRANT
SUPPORTING NONPROFITS AND OTHER
CHARITABLE EFFORTS. THAT IS
ABSOLUTELY NOT OUR INTENTION AND
I'M COMMITTING TO THE CHAIR AND
THE MEMBERS. OF THIS COMMITTEE
THAT THE ISSUE WILL BE RESOLVED
IN THE FINAL AGREEMENT I HOPE TO
SHARE WITH YOU ALL VERY SOON.
WITH THIS COMMITMENT IN PLACE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU ALLOW
AB EIGHT NINE TO MOVE FORWARD
TODAY. KERN MEDICAL REMAINS A
NEUTRAL ON AB EIGHT NINE TWO AND
CONTINUES TO ENGAGE IN THE GOOD
FAITH NEGOTIATIONS CONVENE BY MY
OFFICE WITH ME TODAY IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL IS PASSED ON BEHALF
OF S. C. A. YOU CALIFORNIA AND
LAURENT DOUG DILLARD SMITH AND-
I SEE YOU. LEAD CLINICAL NURSE
AT KERN MEDICAL. MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS GOOD MORNING I'M GONNA
ASK PEOPLE NOT TO MOVE THE MIKES
THEY'RE REALLY HOT SO IT YOU.
THE MORE YOU PLAY WITH THE MIKES
THAT SOONER THEY BREAK SO.
PROJECT THAT HIGHLIGHTS I OFTEN
TOUCH AND BECAUSE OF MY HEIGHT
SO IT IS YOU KNOW I AND I
APPRECIATE THAT BUT THEY'RE
REALLY HOT SO WE LET. THEM STAY
AND THEN WE SEE IF WE CAN HEAR
YOU OKAY GOOD TO KNOW THINK
WHERE'S YOURS NEVER HEARD OF
BEFORE SO THANK YOU SO MUCH-
AGAIN MEDICARE MEMBERS THAT'S
NOT NOW SKEWED S. YEAH YOU
CALIFORNIA. PROUD SPONSORS OF AB
NINE TO GRATEFUL TO DR BANDS
DEDICATED STAFF OF JUMP RIGHT IN
TO WORK WITH BRING FORD AUDI
POINT CONVERSATION REFERENCED BY
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER- BETWEEN SK
IN KERN COUNTY HOSPITAL
AUTHORITY. AS HE REPRESENTS
ROUGHLY SIXTEEN HUNDRED WORKERS
AT THE KERN COUNTY HOSPITAL
AUTHORITY. AND THIS HEALTHCARE
WORKFORCE IS COMMITTED TO
QUALITY CARE. AND THEY KNOW
GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY AT THE AUTHORITY
IS KEY TO DELIVERING ON THAT
PROMISE OF CARE. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY THE
ONLY MOVE THE POLICY FORWARD BUT
THE BROADER CONVERSATION
REFERENCE PLACE I REMEMBER. A
PRIVILEGE TO NOW HANDED OVER TO
LA RONDE SMITH THAT'S A LOCAL
FIVE TO ONE MEMBER LEADER SHOP
STORE TO SHARE HER EXPERIENCE.
AND EXPERIENCE. REPAIRS THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOT
MORE MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE- BOARD MY NAME FULLER ON THE
DILLARD SMITH- I'M AN ICU NURSE
SAID THERE ARE KERN MEDICAL. AND
I ALSO SERVE AS A SHOP STEWARD
THERE- MAKER MEDICAL IN
BAKERSFIELD. AND THE BEER TODAY
WASN'T. VERY EASY FOR ME. BUT
AND THIS BILL IS SO IMPORTANT-
TO MY CO WORKERS AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY TO THE PATIENTS.
THAT WE AT PROVIDE SERVICE FOR.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AB EIGHT
NINE TWO. BECAUSE THE LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY AT KERN MEDICAL HAS
ALREADY THREATEN LIVES IN
QUALITY OF CARE FOR PATIENTS
THAT WE SERVE. OUR PUBLIC
HOSPITAL SERVES THE INDIGENT THE
UNINSURED AND UNDER INSURED
COMMUNITIES OF BAKERSFIELD IN
THE COUNTY OF KERN. OUR STAFF IS
TRAINED IN REGIONALLY CONSIDERED
THE TOP CARE FACILITY FOR THOSE
A TRAUMA CASES. THOSE STRUGGLING
WITH MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS
SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND TOP GENERAL
ACUTE CARE PATIENTS. MY
COWORKERS AND MYSELF OFTEN OF
VOICE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT WORKING
CONDITIONS. AND PATIENT SAFETY
BUT TOO OFTEN MANAGEMENT
RESPONSE WITH THEIR HANDS ARE
TIED OR THEY'RE STILL LOOKING
INTO IT. AND THERE ARE TIMES
WHEN WE DON'T EVEN GET AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THOSE
IN MANAGEMENT. TO CONFER AND
TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT
SURROUND PATIENT SAFETY. OR
WORKING CONDITIONS AND IT
APPEARS AT TIMES THAT OUR INPUT
ISN'T EVEN WANTED- NOR IDEAS TO
HELP IMPROVE THE CARE THEIR- THE
NEW ICU NURSES OFTEN TELL ME
THAT THEY FEEL CONFLICTED. WHEN
THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED
SUPPORT FROM A SENIOR NURSE SUCH
AS MYSELF. THEY WANNA LEARNING
GIVE THE BEST CARE POSSIBLE TO
OUR PATIENTS BUT THEY ALSO KNOW
THAT BETTER NURSES ARE ALWAYS
AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THAT
GUIDANCE. BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENT
IS SO SHORT STAFFED. THIS
TRICKLES TO THE OTHER NURSING
UNITS THROUGHOUT THE HOSPITAL
SOME UNITS WORSE THAN OTHERS.
OUR PATIENT CARE TECHS REPORT
THAT THEY OFTEN HAVE ONLY TWO
WORKERS TO COVER TWENTY SIX MORE
PATIENTS IN THEIR IN THEIR UNITS
IN MANY OF THESE PATIENTS
REQUIRE. TOTAL PATIENT CARE.
SOMETIMES THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S
NEEDED TO DO OUR JOBS IS
TRANSFERRED ELSEWHERE. IN OUR
SYSTEM WITHOUT NOTICE WE'VE HAD
REPORTS FROM SURGICAL
TECHNOLOGIST WHO DON'T FIND THE
EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED. AND
THEY FIND THAT'S BEEN
TRANSFERRED AWAY ARE NOT
CONFIGURED TO OUR NEEDS UNTIL
THE PATIENT IS ALREADY IN THE
OPERATING ROOM. THIS IS SO
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE WORK WE DO
GOES WAY BEYOND BAKERSFIELD.
KERN MEDICAL IS THE ONLY LEVEL
TWO TRAUMA CENTER BETWEEN LOS
ANGELES AND FRESNO. MANY OF THE
FAMILIES WHO COME INTO MY I SEE
YOU. I SEE THEIR LOVED ONES I
SEE HOW SCARED THEY ARE HOW
CONCERNED THEY ARE FOR THEIR
FAMILIES AND HOW STRESS THEY
ARE. I'M SO PROUD OF THE WORK
THAT OUR TEAM DOES. WITH THESE
PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES THE
THING I ADMIRE THE MOST. IS THE
PEOPLE I WORK WITH HAVE A GET IT
DONE AND WE CAN DO THIS
ATTITUDE. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE
TRYING TO GIVE CRITICAL CARE TO
OUR PATIENTS UNDER
UNPREDICTABLE. AND OFTEN
FRUSTRATING WORKING CONDITIONS.
WE NEED AB EIGHT NINE TWO.
BECAUSE KERN MEDICAL SO
IMPORTANT TO SO MANY
COMMUNITIES. MY COWORKERS AND I
LOVE TO PROVIDE THE CARE FOR
THESE PATIENTS AND FAMILIES WHO
NEED KERN MEDICAL. I URGE YOU TO
VOTE YES ON AB EIGHT NINE TWO.
SO THAT WE CAN MAKE KERN MEDICAL
THE BEST IT CAN BE FOR
BAKERSFIELD. AND THE COUNTY OF
KERN I THANK YOU FOR HEARING
TODAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY AND FOR DRIVING. TO BE
HERE. SIR ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD
LIKE TO ADD ON IS A ME TO.
ANYBODY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
SING THEN I LIKE TO ASK IF
THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE
BILL THE TEAR IN ROOM. TWELVE
HUNDRED. SEEING NONE WILL GO TO
THE TELECONFERENCE LINE AND
CHECK IN AND SEE IF THAT-
MODERATOR IF THERE'S ANYBODY
THAT WANTS TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. OR IN OPPOSITION. OF AB
EIGHT NINETY TWO. EIGHTY EIGHT
NINETY TWO. CERTAINLY THANK YOU
AND IF SO PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
AT THIS TIME AGAIN ONE ZERO. AND
GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT HERE.
EVERYONE IN KEY HERE DIDN'T JUST
WAITING ON THAT HERE AGAIN IT'S
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE'LL
GO TO LINE. ONE FORTY ONE FOUR
ZERO. HELLO GOOD MORNING
EVERYONE CAN YOU HEAR ME. WE CAN
HEAR YOU. OKAY HOW MUCH- MANY
MYSTERY TO SHELDON I'M WITH THE
ORANGE COUNTY- I DID THAT DIDN'T
HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON A.
B. NINE SIX NINE EIGHT ONE I'M
SORRY BUT WE'RE DONE WITH NINE
SIX NINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SEND IN UP THROUGH AN EMAIL OR
AT- AT WRITTEN RESPONSE TIME
YOU'RE FREE TO DO THAT WE'RE
MOVING ON AND- ON AND- ON TO THE
AGENDA. THIS IS. EIGHT NINETY
TWO. HI TO ME AGAIN IT IS ONE
ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND THEN
FURTHER IN Q. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH BRING THE MATTER BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENT CENTER
DOLLY. SO SOMEBODY WHO'S
UNDERSTANDS THE BROWN ACT VERY
WELL- SO THIS IS A PRIVATE- SO
THIS IS IT. THAT THE AUTHORITY
IS PUBLIC AND THE L. L. C. IS
PRIVATE SO WHAT- HOW DOES. THIS
BILL DIDN'T GO TO YOU DISH. IN
THE ASSEMBLY AND IT'S NOT GOING
TO DO THIS YEAR I BELIEVE IT'S
GOING TO LABOR- SO. I'M FEARFUL
THAT THIS WILL SET A PRECEDENCE-
BECAUSE WE DO TYPICALLY DON'T.
FORCE LLCS ARE PRIVATE
CORPORATIONS TO. COMPLY WITH THE
BROWN ACT WHICH IS FOR OF THE
OPEN MEETING SO CAN YOU TALK
ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT OF THE
HOSPITAL THIRTY ACTUALLY WAS
CREATED BY THE COUNTY OF
SUPERVISORS SO NOW IS THERE AND
RICHEST BEING SUBJECT TO THE
PRODUCT- AGAIN THIS IS A
DISTRICT BILL. SO THE SENATE
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE KERN COUNTY
HOSPITAL THIRTY THAT WAS CREATED
BUT IT WILL BUT THIS WILL
REQUIRE THE L. L. C. TO BE. TO
HOLD OPEN MEETING ACTS OR JUST
THE AUTHORITY- THIS BILL WILL BE
FORTY SHOULD BE UNDER THAT AS AS
WE SPEAK THERE HAVE BEEN
CONCERNS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A
LACK OF TRANSPARENCY ON THE
HOSPITAL AUTHORITY AS WELL. IN
ORDER. THIS IN YOUR DISTRICT. NO
. THIS MAN I'M TERM HAVE TO ADD
INTO THE TO. YES THAT WHEN I IF
YOU COULD. DURING SO THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION- AND TELLING
WANT TO BUILD A AND ONE OF
KNOWLEDGE IS. THE THOUGHTFUL
WORK BY THE COMMITTEE
CONSULTANT- HE DID ACTUALLY
SPECIFICALLY KIND OF BRING UP
THIS VERY QUESTION. IN HIS
ANALYSIS SO I'M AS NOTED BY
SUMMER BANDS- THE AUTHORITY IS A
PUBLIC ENTITY- ADDITIONALLY THE
BROWN ACT DOES ACTUALLY CONTAIN
SITUATIONS LIKE THIS- IN TERMS
OF LLC IS. THAT FIT UNDER- NOT
BEEN ESTABLISHED- BY A PUBLIC
ENTITY SO THERE ISN'T IN SOME
WAYS IN SOME WAYS EVEN UP. WE
BELIEVE I SHOULD SAY THAT THE
LOC IN SOME WAY SHOULD BE
COVERED ALREADY BY THE BROWN
ACT- GIVEN HOW IT WAS
ESTABLISHED THIS IS AN AREA
WHERE THERE IS ACTIVE
CONVERSATION. BETWEEN BOTH SEIU-
AND THE AUTHORITY IN TERMS OF
THE L. L. C. STANDING WHETHER OR
NOT IT IS A PUBLIC ENTITY OR
PRIVATE ENTITY. WHEN THE REASONS
WHY THE BILL IS DRAFTED THE WAY
IT IS TO REFERENCE KIND OF
ENTITY IS THAT ARE KIND OF UNDER
CONTROLLED BY THE AUTHORITY-
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE
PLEASED TO BE SOME GRAY SPACE-
IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT- THE
BROWN ACT- AND OF THE- OF THE
ESTABLISHED NATION THAT
ESTABLISH THE AUTHORITY. MAKES
CLEAR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS OF
LOC DID NOT EXIST AT THE TIME
THE AUTHORITY WAS ESTABLISHED
AND SO JUST ONE FOLLOW UP
QUESTION- IS THERE A JPA THAT-
THAT. FALLS UNDERNEATH SO
THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING-
KNOWLEDGES THE AUTHORITY. IN
TERMS OF RIGHT NOW THE
STRUCTURES IN PLACE SO- WE HAVE
THIS LLC THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY
THE AUTHORITY- WHICH IS ONE OF
THE- MAIN AREAS OF CONVERSATION
RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE LOCAL IRIS
IRIS YEAH FEEL LOCAL FIVE TWO
ONE- AND THE FOLKS AT THE KERN
COUNTY AUTHORITIES JUST TO GIVE
SOME HISTORY ON WHAT'S BEEN
HAPPENING SO. WHEN I WAS. A
MEDICAL STUDENT THE TIME THERE
WAS A CONCERN THAT THE HOSPITAL
WAS SHUT DOWN AND THEN AT THAT
TIME THAT'S WHEN THE L. C. WAS
FORMED AND OUT TO THE HOSPITAL
THIRTY WAS FORMED WHAT THE
COUNTY SUPERVISORS. IS THE
MEMBERS OF THE L. C. DO THEY SET
ON THE AUTHORITY BOARD AS WELL
OR NO. THERE IS- OVERLAP IN
TERMS OF LEADERSHIP BOTH AT THE
L. L. C. AND AT THE AUTHORITY
INTO THIS IS. SOME OF THE VALUES
OF THE CONCERN WHY WE HAVE SOME
OF THE- GRACE BASIN CONCERNED AS
A MEMBER NOTED RIGHT WELL I
REALLY. APPRECIATE YOUR
TESTIMONY I'M GONNA LAY OFF AND
I KNOW THIS BILL PROBABLY GET
OUT TODAY BUT I WANT TO DIG A
LITTLE DEEPER I'M CONCERNED- BUT
THE STOREDIQ DEFINITELY SHOULD
BE UNDER THE BROWN ACT AND THAT
MAKES SENSE BUT- I JUST NEED TO
KIND OF FIGURE THAT GRAY AREA A
LITTLE BIT SO I REALLY PURSUED
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT. YOU'RE
DOING EVERYTHING TO KEEP HER
HOSPITALS A FLOAT AND WE WANT TO
SEE THAT AS WELL- SO I WILL JUST
LAY OFF TODAY AND HOPEFULLY BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT IT IF IT GETS TO
THE FLOOR. YEAH JUST A QUICK
JUST TO CLARIFY ONE MORE TIME-
YOU KNOW THERE'S THERE IS THE L.
C. AS IN THERE IS THE HOSPITAL
AUTHORITY. BUT THE OVERLAP IN
THE GRAY AREAS THE CONCERN. AND
MAKING SURE THAT THEY ENACT THE
BROWN ACTIVE FOLLOW THE BROWN
ACT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
PLACE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
WELL IN THE END I THINK THAT
THAT THAT. THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE
TO DO WITH IF. YOU CAN'T IT
ESTABLISHING LLC IS THAT AS A-
GOVERNMENT ENTITY AS A WAY TO
GET AROUND. THAT OF THAT THE
OBLIGATIONS BUT- BUT WILL LET
THEM FINISH THEIR DISCUSSIONS
AND THEN WE'LL GET A REPORT BACK
ON- AND THAT'S WHY IN THE
LANGUAGES SAYS FUNDED BY BECAUSE
THE L. L. C. IS FUNDED BY. THE
AUTHORITY SO THAT'S YOU KNOW
THAT CLARITY ON THAT LANGUAGE IS
REALLY IMPORTANT AND- YEAH. THAT
I MEAN THAT NEGOTIATIONS ARE
LET'S SEE IF WE'VE GOT OTHER
OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN IT WILL
ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE. JUST
WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IF YOU
HAVE THE FUNDING GOES. CENTERS
ZERO HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU
NOW I'M JUST TO I'M A LITTLE
CONCERNED ABOUT. S. WHAT WE'RE
NOT THE JUDICIAL BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT. AND THIS HAS ALL THE
MAKINGS OF EIGHTY EIGHT
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
ADJUDICATED IN COURT- BECAUSE
WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE
SEPARATING LLC THERE'S REASONS
FOR LLCS TO BE FORMED AND- THEIR
TAX REASONS THERE'S ALL KINDS OF
REASONS. AND- AND- WHAT'S THE
AUTHORITY. DEVELOPED SOLELY FOR
THE PURPOSE. OF RUNNING A
HOSPITAL OR WERE THEY DEVELOP
SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF.
HAVING THE GOVERNMENT SOMEHOW
FIND SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T
WANT TO RUN SO THEY'VE GRADED
LLC. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET
TO THE BOTTOM OF. YEAH AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GETS
ADJUDICATED IN COURT NOT. IN
FRONT OF ME BECAUSE I'M I'M
THAT'S NOT ME- SO THAT'S I'M
KIND I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH
WITH THIS AND- RIGHT ANSWER
NEEDS TO BE HAD BEFORE WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH LEGISLATION.
THAT CREATES SOMETHING THAT
MIGHT NOT BE LEGAL SO I JUST
WANT TO READ ADDRESS THIS IS A
RESTAURANT FILLED THIS IS
SPECIFICALLY THIS. I UNDERSTAND
YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE I'VE HAD
LOTS OF DISTRICT BILLS AND THEY
GET SHOT DOWN- BECAUSE PEOPLE
DON'T UNDERSTAND MY PARTICULAR
BUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE I'M
STRUGGLING WITH THE LEGAL PART
OF IT. BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT EL
CAESAR ARE FORMED FOR. IT IT IT
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO
GET THE AND THE OF ALL WORLDS
YOU KNOW THE BEST OF THE TWO
WORLDS AND YET WE WANT TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING THAT ONE
OFFERS WHEN IT DOESN'T AND THAT
IS. NEGOTIATIONS WITH YOUR
EMPLOYEES I WILL AFTER THIS IS A
SITE SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME
EMPLOYEE DISPUTES WITH
MANAGEMENT AND THAT'S A LABOR
MANAGEMENT ISSUE. AND NOW WE'RE
WE'RE- I DON'T KNOW WHERE
THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THE THUMB
ON THE SCALE OR WHAT. BUT I'M
JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WEIGHING IN
ON SOMETHING THAT HAS THIS KIND
OF COMPLEXITY TO IT SURE I JUST
YOU KNOW WANT TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S
BEING NEGOTIATED BETWEEN ESSAY
YOU AND KERN MEDICAL BOTH
THROUGHOUT THE TABLE ON HER
MEDICAL REMAINS NEUTRAL
ACTUALLY. WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT
TALKS THIS IS GOTTEN TO PEOPLE
AT THE TABLE THAT HAVE BEEN AT
ODDS FOR A VERY LONG TIME I'M
ACTUALLY VERY PROUD OF THE WORK
THAT WE HAVE DONE DURING THESE
MEETINGS. TO GET YOU KNOW THIS
HANDLED AND I THINK IT'S GOING
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IT'S
ABSOLUTELY- WITH BOTH PARTIES
CONSENT AND IT'S YOU KNOW FOR ME
IT'S AN HONOR. TO BE A RESIDENT
THAT WAS AT THIS HOSPITAL THAT
WITNESS WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND
NOW HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO SAVE A
RURAL HOSPITAL. IN I'M I'M GLAD
THAT THEY'RE GOING DOWN THAT
PATH BUT IT DOESN'T REMOVE THE
COMPLEXITY FROM WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO. DO HERE FROM MY MIND
AND THAT'S- SO. SAID YEAH IT'S
HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT IT WHEN.
I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE IN
SOMEBODY ELSE'S ARENA RIGHT NOW
AND I DON'T WANT. I'M I'M NOT
GOING TO INTERFERE WITH IT OR BE
PART OF INTERFERING WITH. A
PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
BEFORE WE CAN. WAYANS THANK YOU
. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS. CENTER BAKER. OKAY SO
LET ME JUST SAY THAT- I
APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT
YOU'VE DONE ON THIS BILL THE
FACT THAT YOU WERE A RESIDENT AT
THE HOSPITAL MEANS THAT YOU
UNDERSTAND THAT- THE CHALLENGES-
THAT ARE INHERENT IN. IN OUR
RURAL HOSPITAL SYSTEM- THIS TO
ME IS A VERY SIMPLE STRATEGIC.
UP BILL THAT LOOKS AT. EXTENDING
BROWN ACT REQUIREMENTS TWO
HUNDRED THIRTY THAT SHOULD HAVE
HAD THEM FROM THE BEGINNING- AND
SO- I'M I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE
YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO. AND ALL
THE OTHER LEGAL ISSUES IF YOU
CAN GET IT WORKED OUT WITHOUT
HAVING TO GO TO COURT AND I'M AN
ATTORNEY SO I MADE MONEY GOING
TO COURT OKAY BUT- IF YOU CAN
KEEP IT OUT OF THE COURT SYSTEM
AND YOU CAN COME UP WITH AN
AGREEMENT THEN YOU GET. A BETTER
OUTCOME BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T-
DIG IN THEIR HEELS NUMBER ONE
THEY DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY
FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT-
NECESSARY AND ULTIMATELY I THINK
TRANSPARENCY IS REALLY IMPORTANT
IF THERE'S ONE THING I'VE
LEARNED. IN TRYING TO SAVE.
RURAL HOSPITALS ALL OVER THE
STATE MADERA IN PARTICULAR IT'S
THAT- IS THAT THE HOSPITAL HAS
TO FUNCTION WELL IN ORDER FOR
ALL OF THE RESOURCES TO COME IN
AND THEY HAVE- SUFFICIENT
RESOURCES TO MEET ALL THE NEEDS
IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE A-
LARGE MEDIC CAL MEDICARE
POPULATION AND SO. ON THAT MEANS
THAT THEY HAVE TO BE OPERATING.
IF AFFECTED LI INEFFICIENTLY AND
YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT
WITH THE BROWN EXCEPT. J. U.
COMMITTEE TO COME BACK AND HAVE
A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WORDING
. AND AND- L. L. C.'S CANNOT BE.
CREATED BY GOVERNMENT ENTITIES
AS A WAY TO- AVOID HAVING TO
LIVE UP TO THE TRANSPARENCY
REQUIREMENTS AND THAT. REPORTING
A CRIME NOT SAYING THEY DID THAT
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT IS
IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
INTERNALLY WITH- ALL THE PLAYERS
TO MAKE SURE. THAT IT'S DONE
RIGHT SO- I WILL BE SUPPORTING
IT TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING MORE ABOUT YOUR YOUR
FIND YOU HOW HOW YOU CONCLUDE
THAT SO I'LL ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE
SURE. AND IN CLOSING I JUST
WANTED TO AGAIN REITERATE THIS
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING
FOR KERN MEDICAL- THURS
COMPLEXITIES I THINK WE'RE
GETTING A LITTLE AHEAD OF
OURSELVES A VERY SIMPLE BILL.
IT'S MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW
THERE IS TRANSPARENCY WHERE
TRANSPARENCY IS NEEDED- AS A
RESIDENT I'VE SEEN THIS
HOSPITALS SUFFER FROM A LOT-
LARONDE AND I HAVE SAVE VERY
MANY PATIENTS IN THE ICU WE'VE-
SADDLE. OF PATIENCE I HAVE LEFT
US IN THE I SEE WE'VE BEEN
THROUGH A LOT- THIS HOSPITAL'S
VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO ME- YOU
KNOW THIS IS NOT A VERY COMPLEX
BILLS A VERY SIMPLE BILL AND-
IT'S BEEN AN HONOR FOR ME. AS A
DOCTOR TO BE ABLE TO HOLD BOTH
THE CURRENT MEDICAL AND S. C.
ARE YOU AT THE TABLE AND HAVE
THEM REMAIN ACTIVE IN ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS- THIS HAS BEEN.
MONUMENTAL AND FOURTH NOT JUST
THE COMMUNITY BUT FOR OVERALL
IT'S GOING TO HELP SAVE A
HOSPITAL IT'S NOT AS COMPLEX AS
WERE MAKING IT IT'S A VERY
SIMPLE BILL. AND IT WAS EXACTLY
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING CENTER COPIER
IT'S MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW
THERE'S THIS GRAY AREA THAT WAS
CREATED LET'S MAKE SURE AND BOTH
PARTIES AGREED AT THAT WE'VE GOT
THE HOT KERN MEDICAL ANA CA THAT
BOTH AGREE THAT THERE'S
SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
THAT'S WHY WRIST. OUT THE TABLE
TALKING TO EACH OTHER TO EACH
OTHER OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T HAVE
THAT ONGOING CONVERSATION. SO
IT'S A IT'S A VERY SIMPLE BILL-
IT'S NOT AS COMPLEX AND I
APPRECIATE AND RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR I'VE- DO I HAVE A MOTION ON
THIS. SO MOVED. MOTION IS TO
PASS THE SENATE LABOR PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS
CABALLERO I. HAVE A- WITH THE
AMENDMENTS RIGHT- SHE SHE HAS.
WILL RETURN IN REGARDS TO THAT
THE LANGUAGE. BUT YOU BUT
THERE'S A CLEAR IS AN AGREEMENT
YES OKAY- IS OPPOSITE ONE THANK
YOU OKAY. SENATORS SENATORS
CABALLERO HI W. I. L. I. C. R.
TO. LAKE SUPERIOR. LEG SPINNER I
DOLLY. RUSSELL GLAZER. SKINNER
RIGHT SKINNER AYE WIENER. THREE
TO ZERO. HAS THREE VOTE TO PUT
IT ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ASSEMBLY MEMBER-
MAIENSCHEIN. WELCOME WE'RE
MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN. AB. AB. NINE SEVENTY
EIGHT TO SEVENTY TWO. HELLO THE
PLEASURE. AS I GOT- I'M HERE
WITH ARAMBULA. I THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS I
WANT TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS AS PROPOSED IN THE
ANALYSIS AB NINE SEVENTY TWO
STREAMLINES LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ASSISTANCE RESOURCES. TO EVERY
COMMUNITY HAS THE SAME
OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE FOR STATE
FUNDING CALIFORNIA HAS OUR
ROBUST NETWORK OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENT GRANT PROGRAMS FOR
CLIMATE RESILIENCY AND NATURAL
RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY PROJECTS. THESE GRANTS
HELP MUNICIPALITIES MEET THE
CLIMATE GOALS SET BY THE STATE
YET NEARLY ALL THESE PROGRAMS
HAVE UNIQUE AND WIDELY VERY
PROCEDURES FOR APPLICATION IN
SCORING SMALLER UNDER RESOURCE
CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE AT A
DISADVANTAGE WHEN APPLYING FOR
GRANTS. AS THEY TYPICALLY LACK
THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE
RESOURCES AND EXPERIENCE IN
TWENTY TWENTY THE LEGISLATURE
STREAMLINED HOUSING ASSISTANCE
PROGRAMS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO APPLY. AND
MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS OF
ASSISTANCE DOLLARS EIGHTY NINE
SEVENTY TWO AIMS TO REPLICATE
THIS PROCESS WITH CALIFORNIA'S
ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS THE BILL
REQUIRES THE OFFICE OF PLANNING
RESEARCH TO CONVENE A WORKING
GROUP WITH THE EVENTUAL GOAL OF
CREATING A STREAMLINED PROCESS.
THAT ALLOWS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
APPLY FOR MULTIPLE GRANT
PROGRAMS USING ONLY ONE
APPLICATION THIS WILL HELP
STRETCH LIMITED FUNDING AS FAR
AS POSSIBLE AND BOLSTER EFFORTS
TO ADDRESS CLIMATE RESILIENCY
GOALS I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE IN WITH ME TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS VENTURE
FAR WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES. MORNING MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF COMPLETELY
CALIFORNIA CITIES PROUD TO
SPONSOR EVEN AT SEVENTY TWO. AS
THE MEMBER MENTIONED- NINE
SEVENTY TWO IS A BILL THAT LOOKS
TO STREAMLINE STATE GRANT
OPPORTUNITIES LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ASSISTANCE RESOURCES BY
CONVENING A STATE WIDE CROSS
AGENCY WORKING GROUP. SMALL AND
MEDIUM SIZE MISS POLITY IS OFTEN
LACK THE RESOURCES STAFF
CAPACITY AND TECHNICAL EXPERTISE
TO APPLY FOR AND SECURE
COMPETITIVE STATE GRANTING GRANT
FUNDING. THIS BILL TARGETS GRANT
PROGRAMS WITHIN THE NATURAL
RESOURCES AGENCY IN THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION AGENCY TO IDENTIFY
POLICY OVERLAPS STRETCH LIMITED
FUNDING AS FAR AS POSSIBLE AND
ADDRESS SHARED STATE AND LOCAL
CLIMATE RESILIENCY GOALS. AB
NICE TO MEET YOU IS MODELED OFF
AFTER AND BUILDS OFF THE SUCCESS
OF A BEFORE THIRTY FOUR FROM
TWENTY TWENTY. WHICH ONLINE SIX
RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAMS THE
DEPARTMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
IN A SINGLE APPLICATION SCORING
SYSTEM. AB NINE SEVENTY TWO IS
THE NEXT STEP TO ENSURE THAT
EVERY COMMUNITY HAS A PETROL
OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE FOR
STATEWIDE GRANT FUNDING. THANK.
YOU FOR TIME HAPPY ANSWER
QUESTIONS. GREAT TO HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESS. PRIMARY WITNESSES
. NO TO EVERYBODY ELSE THE ROOM
WHO LIKE TO GET UP AND ADD THEIR
ME TOO TO THE- SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. IF NOT DO WE HAVE ANY.
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
IN THE ROOM. THEY'RE BEING DONE
ANYBODY WHO JUST WANTS TO COME
UP AND SAY THEY OPPOSE THE BILL
. THEY ARE BEING AND WILL GO TO
THE EIGHTEEN T. OPERATOR
EIGHTEEN T. OPERATOR THE NEW.
GET PEOPLE ON THE LINE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. FOR THIS THIS BILL.
AB NINE SEVEN TWO. YES SIR TO
STOP AND PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
THEN ZERO ONE AND ZERO. NUMBER
IT'S. AND WILL FIRST GO TO LINE
NUMBER ONE HUNDRED. YES THANK
YOU. MISTER CHAIR MEMBER DAVID
JONES A MAP OF SAN MARCOS IN
SUPPORT. NEXT. DO WE HAVE ANY
EVERY OTHER LINE NUMBER ONE YES
SIR LINE NUMBER ONE SEVENTEEN
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
EVERYONE- THIS IS SANDY FROM
PLASTER COUNTY. AND YEAH THIS
IS. GOVERNMENT OVERREACH IT
SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN SORRY WHAT
BILL YOU TARA SPEAKING ON MA'AM
. THE ONE THAT YOU'RE ON YOUR ON
EIGHTY NINE SEVEN TWO ARE YOU
NOT YES OKAY THANK YOU I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE
HAD SOME CONFUSION ABOUT ANOTHER
BILL THAT WAS AN OVER REACH SO
THANK YOU. WELL THAT WAS EIGHTY
NINE SIX NINE THANK YOU I'M I'M
FOLLOWING I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE
YOU. MORE I KNOW THAT I THINK WE
COVERED THAT ALREADY SO I AM
CALLING ABOUT EIGHTY NINE SEVEN
TWO AND I OPPOSE THIS. THANK YOU
MA'AM. THANK YOU. SENATE. WE
HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. YES
SIR- WE HAVE ONE AND WE'D HAVE
TO GET THE LINE NUMBER IT'LL BE
A MOMENT.
AND LINE NUMBER ONE FIFTY
ALIGNMENTS OPEN. YOU HEAR ME YES
MA'AM GO AHEAD. I'M
COMPLIMENTING CALIFORNIA. THANK
YOU MA'AM. NEXT BIGGER. AND NO
ONE ELSE IN Q. MESSENGER OKAY
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAYS
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BRING MY
COLLEAGUES. WE HAVE A MOTION
FORWARD TO MOVE THE BILL. I
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS COMMITTEE RESPECT YOUR
QUESTION ABOUT EIGHT BILLION
CALL ROLE AND THIS IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
. SENATORS CABALLERO. SEYARTO HI
SEYARTO I BLAKE'S BEER PLACE
WHERE I. DALI RUSSELL GLAZER
SKINNER SKINNER AYE WIENER THREE
TO ZERO THANK YOU MISTER MEMBERS
. HOLD THAT OPEN FOR MORE PEOPLE
ADD ON LATER. ALL RIGHT. YES
MISTER LOAN DAHLE YOU'VE BEEN
VERY PATIENT FLORIDA HAVE YOU
COME ON UP AND PRESENT YOUR BILL
. JUST LET ME GET TO IT. RIGHT
BUT MY- GLASSES ON. ALL RIGHT
THIS WILL BE AB TWELVE EIGHTEEN.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
SENATORS- AB TWELVE EIGHTEEN
PROVIDES NEEDED CLARITY TO
ENSURE THAT THE REPLACEMENT
HOUSING AND RELOCATION
PROVISIONS OF SB THREE THIRTY
ARE IMPLEMENTABLE I CAN ACHIEVE
THEIR INTENDED IMPACT. IN
ADDITIONALLY EXPANDS THOSE
PROVISIONS TO APPLY TO ANY
DEVELOPMENT THERE IS DEMOLISHING
EXISTING HOUSING TO ENSURE THAT
WE ARE NOT BACKSLIDING IN
ADDRESSING THE STATE'S HOUSING
SUPPLY CRISIS. THE BILL
CLARIFIES A NUMBER OF THE
PROVISIONS OF EXISTING LAW THAT
REQUIRED THE REPLACEMENT OF
HOUSING UNITS AND IN SOME CASES
RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND A
RIGHT TO RETURN FOR DISPLACED
LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. AS A
CONDITION OF DEVELOPING SITES
WERE EXISTING HOUSING IS
DEMOLISHED. THESE PROVISIONS
HAVE BEEN FLAGGED BY BOTH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND H. C. D. AS
DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET OF LEAD
TO CONFUSION FOR DEVELOPERS.
THIS IS MEANT THAT DISPLACED LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS ARE NOT
BENEFITING FROM THE IMPORT
PROTECTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.
UNDER THE LAW. IN ADDITION THE
BILL EXTENDS THE REPLACEMENT
HOUSING OBLIGATION UNDER SB
THREE THIRTY TO ALL PROJECTS
RATHER THAN JUST HOUSING
PROJECTS. DEVELOPERS SHOULD HAVE
SHOULD HAVE A PLAN TO REPLACE
EXISTING HOUSING UNITS
REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF
PROJECT THEY'RE BUILDING
CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES THAT
ALREADY APPLY UNDER HOUSING
ELEMENT LAW. THE PROVISION
EXPANDING SB THREE THIRTIES
REPLACEMENT OBLIGATION TO
NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE
DEMOLISHING EXISTING HOUSING HAS
RAISED RECENT OPPOSITION IN FACT
IT'S JUST IN THE LAST WEEK. I'M
COMMITTED TO FINDING COMMITTED
TO TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO
THE CONCERNS THE OPPOSITION HAS
RAISED. BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO
DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD NARROW
THE EXISTING SCOPE OF SB THREE
THIRTY. WITH ME TODAY I HAVE ON
YOUR LOT LAWLER OF THE PUBLIC
INTEREST LAW PROJECT. THANK YOU
THE PRIMARY WITNESS AND SUPPORT.
THIS LAWLER- YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES IF YOU COULD OKAY- GOOD.
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN BRUCE ARULAR
AGAIN HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF
BOTH THE PUBLIC INTEREST LAW
PROJECT IN THE CALIFORNIA RURAL
LEGAL ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION- SB
THREE THIRTY IT HAS PROVEN TO
MISLI BENEFICIAL AND KUDOS TO
SENATOR SKINNER FOR ALL THE HARD
WORK SHE DID IN DELIVERING NOT
IMPORTANT LAW. UNFORTUNATELY
THOUGH AS THAT SO YOUR NOTES
THAT RELOCATION ASSISTANCE
REPLACEMENT HOUSING REQUIREMENTS
OF MET WITH SOME CHALLENGES.
RIGHT NOW LONGTIME TENANTS ARE
SIMPLY NOT GETTING RELOCATION
ASSISTANCE UNDER THE LAW BECAUSE
NO OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS NOR
H. CD EIGHT YOU KNOW HOW TO
CLEARLY INTERPRET THE LOSS OF
THIS WILL CLARIFY THAT TO MAKE
SURE THAT FOLKS CAN START
GETTING. THE BENEFITS THAT THEY
WERE INTENDED. TO RECEIVE UNDER
THE LAW- BUT ALSO I JUST WANT TO
DRESS THE SOURCE OF THE
OPPOSITION. THAT REPLACEMENT
HOUSING PROVISIONS AND THREE
THIRTY WE'VE GOT BECAUSE THEY
ONLY PLAYED A HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT. SAINTS THAT
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT CAN BE SMALLISH
EXISTING HOUSING WITH NO
CONSEQUENCES WHICH IS A
DEPARTURE FROM THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT APPLY UNDER HOUSING ELEMENT
. WE GIVE A COUPLE EXAMPLES THAT
ILLUSTRATE THE NEED FOR THIS
CHANGE LATE LAST YEAR SAN BENITO
COUNTY ADOPTED A SPECIFIC PLAN
TO REZONE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL
AREA TO INDUSTRIAL USE TO ENABLE
DEVELOPMENT OF WAREHOUSES.
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN WILL
RESULT THE DEMOLITION OF A
HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE EXISTING
OCCUPIED HOUSING UNITS UNDER
THREE THIRTY THE COUNTY IS
REQUIRED TO CREATE ITS OWN
CAPACITY ELSEWHERE FOR THOSE
LAWS UNITS. BUT THERE'S NO
REQUIREMENT THE UNITS THEMSELVES
TO BE REPLACED. SIMILARLY THE
AMONG VALLEY DEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY A JOINT POWERS
AUTHORITY OF THE CITIES OF
HIGHLAND AND THEN BURNED DINO IS
IN THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING A
SPECIFIC PLAN RIGHT NOW. THAT
WOULD RESULT A LARGE AREA
SPENDING PORTIONS OF BOTH CITIES
FOR PREDOMINATELY WAREHOUSE
DEVELOPMENT THE PLAN WOULD
REQUIRE THE DEMOLITION OF NEARLY
ONE THOUSAND. UNITS OF EXISTING
OCCUPIED HOUSING- AND AT THAT
WHICH IS COINCIDENTLY ALMOST AS
MANY HOUSING UNITS THAT WERE
BUILT IN THOSE TWO CITIES
COMBINE IN THE DECADE SPANNING
TWENTY TEN TO TWENTY TWENTY.
OVER TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED PEOPLE
WOULD BE DISPLACED. SO THESE
EXAMPLES ARE NOT OUTLIERS IS A
GROWING TREND IN CERTAIN PARTS
OF THE STATE AND THE REASONS ARE
OFTEN DEVELOPER INITIATED THIS
MAKES LITTLE SENSE WHEN THE
STATE HAS A MASSIVE AND WELL
DOCUMENTED HOUSING SHORTAGE. WE
AGREE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME
INSTANCES WERE IMPOSING
REPLACEMENT OBLIGATION ON
DEVELOPER IT MIGHT NOT MAKE
SENSE FOR EXAMPLE IN AN AREA
WHERE THERE'S A LONG STANDING.
AND US- UP INDUSTRIAL NOT
RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND A SMALL
NUMBER OF NON CONFORMING
RESIDENTIAL UNITS. FOR THAT'S
REALLY DIFFERENT THAN A PROJECT
THAT'S TAKING OUT ENTIRE.
OCCUPIED NEIGHBORHOODS- PART OF
THE GOAL OF REPLACEMENT
OBLIGATION IS TO FORCE
CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER SITE IS
ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE PLACE TO
BUILD A GIVEN PROJECT- AS
PREVIOUSLY NOTED ANY PROJECT
PROPOSING TO LOCATE ON THE SITE
IDENTIFIED FOR HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT A LOCAL RENT HOUSING
ELEMENT. IS SUBJECT REPLACEMENT
OBLIGATION. THIS INCLUDES
COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS
THAT MAY BE AN ALLOWABLE USE
EVEN ON A HOUSING ON THAT SITE.
THIS WAS IN A PLACE AND TWENTY
EIGHTEEN AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN OUR
SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE NON
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS SIMPLY
CHOSE NOT TO MOVE THE PROJECT
FORWARD. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
WANT TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE
REPLACEMENT OBLIGATION WHICH
PRESERVED IN THE EXISTING
HOUSING ON THE SITE AND ALSO
PRESERVE. THOSE SITES FOR
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WHICH WOULD
EASE REALLY REPLACE ANY. THE
CUT. CAN YOU WRAP UP MA'AM SURE
I WOULD JUST WANT TO CLARIFY
THE- NOT. NON RESIDENTS
DEVELOPER BILLS TO. DEVELOPERS
TO BUILD. AND DOESN'T ANTICIPATE
THAT REPLACEMENT HOUSING WOULD
BUILD BE BUILT ON. THE SITE OF
THE NON RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
THAT WOULD HAPPEN THROUGH
COOPERATION WITH AN ACTUAL
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER SO WE'RE
HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR IN
THE BILL AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK
TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THANK YOU
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
. OKAY AT THIS TIME IN IT OKAY.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES SIR. FOR
REAL TWO MINUTES. APOLOGIES
ACTUALLY NOT A PRIMARY WITNESS
JUST ONE TO REGISTER MY SUPPORT
ON BEHALF OF DISABILITY RIGHTS
CALIFORNIA MY NAME'S GREGORY
KRAMER AND WE SUPPORT THE BILL.
I THANK YOU THAT TO HAVE YOU IN
MY NEXT CALL WAS GONNA BE FOR
THE ME TOOS. EVERYBODY WHO
SUPPORTS BUILDING COME UP- GIVE
US YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION
AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE BILL.
MARK STIVERS OF THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT AT THIS
TIME IF THERE ARE NO OTHER
PERSONS WISHING TO COME TO THE
MIKE AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO
OPPOSITION. SO THIS IS THE TIME
WHERE WE HAVE- PRIMARY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK AS A PRIMARY
OPPOSITION WITNESS. SIR AND YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES MISTER CHAIRMAN
VERSE MATTHEW HARGROVE BUT THE
CALIFORNIA BUSINESS PROPERTIES
ASSOCIATION THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
WILLINGNESS TO HEAR SOME OF OUR
CONCERNS. WE HAVE BEEN OPPOSED
TO THIS THROUGHOUT BUT WE HAVE A
PRETTY TECHNICAL CONCERN THAT
WE'RE TRYING TO GET FIXED AND- I
THINK WE'VE HAD GOOD
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SPONSOR.
ON THIS AND I THINK HER LAST
STATEMENT ON THIS. SHOWS WHERE
WE'RE TRYING TO GET ON THIS. OUR
ISSUE IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE YOU'RE
TAKING THIS LAW- SB THREE THIRTY
WHICH WAS NEGOTIATED ON
RESIDENTIAL ONLY AND THEN
APPLYING IT TO COMMERCIAL. THERE
ARE SOME HICCUPS WHEN YOU DO
THAT THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH.
AND HOUSING WE ALL KNOW IS THE
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE STATE
RIGHT NOW. BUT ALSO BEING ABLE
TO BUILD BUILDINGS THAT PROVIDE
JOBS. LOGISTICS CENTERS DELIVER
ALL THE THINGS WE NEED. MAKES
THINGS IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THE EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE FOR
THIS IS WHEN YOU TAKE A- A SITE
THAT'S IN A FORMER REDEVELOPMENT
AREA- THAT HAS NON CONFORMING
USES UNDER SEQUEL IN THEM. THOSE
HOUSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN
DESIGNATED BY THAT LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. AS AS AS HOUSING
THAT'S NOT CONFORMING. AND IS
GOING AWAY SO THOSE ARE REALLY
THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DEAL
WITH. THE EXAMPLES ON THE LARGE
ZONES WE THINK THAT THOSE ARE
ALREADY- CAPTURED UNDER AB THREE
THIRTY AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT HERE. WE'RE
LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT HAVE
ONSITE HOUSING HOW DO YOU DEAL
WITH THAT RIGHT NOW- I THINK IN
THE ANALYSIS DID A GREAT JOB ON
PAGE FOUR. NUMBER TWO THAT
OUTLINES OUR EXACT CONCERN RIGHT
NOW. HOW DO YOU TAKEN INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPER THAT'S NOT DOING A
HOUSING PROJECT IN AN AREA
THAT'S NOT ZONED FOR HOUSING.
AND REQUIRE THEM TO ACTUALLY
BUILD AND REPLACE HOUSING.
RESPONSE FROM THIS IS JUST SAID
WE'LL GO WORK WITH A RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPER SOMEWHERE. BUT AS YOU
ALL KNOW BUILDING HOUSING RIGHT
NOW CALIFORNIA'S VERY DE A COLD.
FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO A
PROJECT UNDER THIS BILL IN THAT
CIRCUMSTANCE. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO FIND A HOUSING. DEVELOPER
THAT IS ACTUALLY BUILDING
HOUSING CONCURRENTLY WITH OUR
PROJECT AT THAT MOMENT. WE'VE
OFFERED SOME AMENDMENTS ON THIS
NGUYEN ARMAMENTS ARE PERFECT
WE'VE MET WITH THE SPONSOR
YESTERDAY ON THEM. WERE WILLING
TO TWEAK THEM A LITTLE BIT. BUT
REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO A
SOL FOR THAT PROBLEM OF HOW DO
YOU TAKE AN INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPER. ON INDUSTRIAL LAND
WITH NONCONFORMING USES. AND BE
ABLE TO ASSURE THAT THAT PROJECT
CAN MOVE FORWARD IT'S A REALLY A
TECHNICAL CONCERN. WE'RE NOT
ARGUING ON THE BASELINE OF THE
LAW AND WE APPRECIATE YOU
WORKING WITH US SIR THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ARE THERE
ANY OTHER PERSONS WISHING TO
SPEAK IS A PRIMARY WITNESS I CAN
TAKE ONE MORE. IF NOT IS THERE
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WOULD LIKE
TO COME UP AND ADD. THEIR VOICE
TO THE OPPOSITION. JUST THEIR
NAME AND THEY WERE. WHO THEY
REPRESENT. SEE PEOPLE MOVING
AROUND BUT I DON'T SEE PEOPLE
COMING UP HERE. OKAY SO THAT
TAKES US TO THE PHONE LINES AT
THIS TIME- ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION.
OF AB TWELVE EIGHTEEN- CAN DO
SO. A AND- IF YOU CAN JUST STATE
YOUR NAME. AND ORGANIZATION YOU
REPRESENT AND WHETHER YOU OPPOSE
OR SUPPORT THE BILL. THAT WOULD
BE VERY HELPFUL THANK YOU. SO
EIGHTEEN T. OPERATED DO WE HAVE
ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO WEIGH IN.
TOOK YOU UP PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO ONE AND ZERO.
AND WE HAVE NO ONE IN Q.
MESSENGER. OKAY SO I WILL BRING
IT BACK TO THE DYESS IS THERE
ANYBODY ON THE DESK WHO WISHES
TO SPEAK OR ASK QUESTIONS. MISC
THERE ARE CENTERS IN- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER AND GIVEN THAT THIS BILL
DOES AMEND MY BILL. AND MY BILL
WAS EXCLUSIVE TO HOUSING-
PROJECTS AND HOUSING YOU KNOW.
THE LOTS DESIGNATED FOR HOUSING
PURPOSES I'M COULD YOU ADDRESS-
THE- CONCERN OF THE OPPOSITION
IN RELATIONSHIP TO PUTTING THIS
ON AND I WOULD AYE WE HEARD FROM
HIS LAWYER SO SHE DID GIVE HER
REASONS BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU
COULD. GIVE US SOME CHEESE
INDICATED SOME OPENNESS TO-
TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR YEAH I
WOULD I WOULD YIELD TO MISS
LAWLER ON THE TECHNICAL
COMPONENTS OF THE OF THE
RESPONSE BUT IN TERMS OF THE
PRACTICAL WAY OF GETTING TO
SOLUTION SENATOR- TOTALLY
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE
OPPOSITION DO NOT CONSIDER THE
OPPOSITION'S. CONCERNS TO BE
UNREASONABLE WHATSOEVER THEY'RE
JUST LATE TO THE GAME- WE ONLY-
HEARD THESE OPPOSITION COMMENTS
VERY VERY RECENTLY SO- BACKS
AGAINST THE WALL IN TERMS OF
TIME BUT WE ARE COMPLETELY AND
TOTALLY COMMITTED TO WORKING
WITH THEM. THE IN AND IT'S
UNFORTUNATE THEY ARE LATE TO THE
GAME BUT HOWEVER. I THINK
THERE'S- THEY HAVE SOME MERIT
GIVEN THAT. THE- THE BILL THAT'S
BEING AMENDED DOES NOT DEAL WITH
COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SO. IT
INDEED AND I THINK ALSO THOUGH I
SHOULD SAY THE STATUTE THAT IS
BEING MADE CORRECT AND I WOULD
ASK. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE IF THAT
WAS DELIBERATE WHILE YOU WERE
ADDRESSING IT IN A CRISIS-
FORMAT WAS YOU WERE GREATLY NOT
PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE OF SB THREE
THIRTY WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THAT
HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT SO.
WHICH ALSO DEALS WITH- DOES NOT
DEAL WITH COMMERCIAL. PROPERTIES
CORRECT SO I THINK THE WORST
CASE SCENARIO HERE IS IF. THE
EXISTING LAW THAT THERE'S A
LOOPHOLE BASICALLY IN THE
EXISTING LAW. WHEREBY DEVELOPERS
CAN CAN GO ROUND THIS
REQUIREMENT TO THE DETRIMENT OF
THE GOALS THE INITIAL GOALS OF
SB THREE THIRTY AND THAT. ARE
THE TENANTS OF WHY THIS BILLS
COME FORWARD- AND I THINK THAT
THE EXAMPLES. THAT MS LAWLER
GAVE IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT
TAKING PLACE IN SOME OF THOSE
JURISDICTIONS ARE QUITE ALARMING
- AND CONTRARY TO WHAT WE
BELIEVE WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT
WAS OF SB THREE THIRTY WHICH IS
MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T.
DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING
STOCK THAT WE HAVE IN THE FACE
OF DEVELOPMENT- SO I EAT THE
INTENTION HERE. IS GOOD THE
INTENTION HERE IS SIMPLY TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE A NET INCREASE
IN HOUSING STOCK. BY DEVELOPMENT
OF ANY TYPE. AND ONCE AGAIN
REITERATE WE SINCE WE HEAR LOUD
AND CLEAR THE CONCERNS THAT THE
OPPOSITION IS MAKING ARE
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THEM
IN THE DAYS AHEAD. OR ANY OTHER
COLLEAGUES WISHED AWAY IN. I
HAVE. ARE YOU GOOD. OKAY I HAVE
A COUPLE QUESTIONS- THAT NEEDS A
KIND OF THE PRACTICAL REAL WORLD
QUESTIONS OF SOME OF THE
PRACTICES IN THE PAST- NOT ALL
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS GOING
IN EVERY AREA. OF AT THE REQUEST
OF THE DEVELOPERS- SOME OF THESE
ARE SOME OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE CONCERNS- ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY- WE YOU HAVE PROPERTY
AROUND AIRPORTS- AND YEAH I.
DURING THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES
AND TWO THOUSANDS- THERE IS THE
FLIGHT PATH OF LA ACTS GOING
OVER THE CITY OF INGLEWOOD. AND
THEY REMOVED ENTIRE
NEIGHBORHOODS. USING
REDEVELOPMENT TO DO IT. AND THEN
REPLACE THAT WITH COMMERCIAL AND
INDUSTRIAL. BUILDINGS BECAUSE
THEY DIDN'T WANT THE- THE FACTS
OF THE AIRPORT THE NOISE AND THE
POLLUTION- RAINING DOWN ON ON
THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED UNDER
THOSE. HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT.
THEIR ABILITY NOW WITH THERE IS
NO REDEVELOPMENT IT ALL LANDS
ON. ON THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES
HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT. THEIR
ABILITY TO. GET RID OF THOSE
THOSE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD TO
REPLACE THOSE RIGS IS THE
EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. BECAUSE
YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK PEOPLE
COULD COME IN AND DEVELOP THOSE
AND IF YOU ADD ON THAT BURDEN
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO IN THOSE
NEIGHBORHOODS JUST STAY THERE
AND THE PEOPLE STAY LIVING
UNDERNEATH THE FLIGHT PATH OF AN
AIRPORT OR- IN THE VICINITY OF
AN AIRPORT LIKE LONG BEACH OR
SAMPOERNA DINO- WHERE THEY HAVE
THE THAT AIRPORT OUT THERE.
WHICH IS NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THE STATUS OF THE AIRPORT RIGHT
NOW IS BUDGET TO. I'M FUTURE NO
AYE AYE THAT'S A NEW ONCE
QUESTION AND DEALS DIRECTLY WITH
WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL IMPACTS THAT
ARE TAKE PLACE THE INDIVIDUAL
IMPACTS OR TAKE PLACE IN EACH
ONE OF THOSE. THOSE LOCALES SO I
CAN'T SPEAK HOLISTICALLY AS TO
THAT BUT I CAN SAY THAT THERE IS
HEIGHTENED SENSITIVITY. IN THE
DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT NOT
AROUND THE AIRPORT- AND
DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AIRPORT
PER SE BUT ACTUALLY AROUND THE
GOODS MOVEMENT CORRIDOR. AND
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IN THOSE
AREAS AND COMMERCIAL VERSUS
RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMUNITIES
THAT AROUND THERE INCLUDING LONG
BEACH AND THEIR GOALS OF
DEVELOPING- HOUSING STOCK
INTENSE COMMUNITIES- AND HOW
THAT AFFECTS THOSE COMMUNITIES
IT'S DEFINITELY A YOU KNOW PART
OF THE CONSIDERATION SENATOR-
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE WAIT
OUT UNDER THE GUISE. GUIDELINES
OF EXISTING LAW. I DON'T- I
DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD
CONTEMPLATE THIS WOULD CHANGE
THAT WELL WITH THIS LAZY. BURDEN
OF FINDING REPLACEMENT HOUSING
ON THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER OR
THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER. AS
OPPOSED. TO WAIT WHAT USED TO BE
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY KIND OF
HANDLE THAT IT DOES. OKAY AND
THAT COULD BE A- J. THAT COULD
BE DETRIMENTAL TO THEM. ACTUALLY
DECIDING WHETHER THEY WANT TO
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT
THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT THE OPPOSITE OKAY IS
VOICING RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S
KIND OF WHAT I WAS WEARING FROM
THE OPPOSITE WORDS. ADDRESSING
RIGHT NOW SENATOR OKAY YOU KNOW
WE'RE IN A CATCH TWENTY TWO
RIGHT. I MEAN WE ALL NEED TO
RECOGNIZE THAT HERE RIGHT I MEAN
WE ARE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS WE
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD
BE AVERTING THE WAYS WE'RE
TRYING TO REMEDY THOSE HOUSING
CRISIS. CRISES WHILE WE'RE DOING
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT
DOESN'T WORK AND SO WE HAVE TO
FIND. A WAY TO GET THROUGH THIS
THAT IS SENSITIVE TO THE THINGS
THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THAT CENTER
SKINNER JUST BROUGHT UP. AND THE
OPPOSITION BROUGHT FORWARD WE'RE
COMMITTED TO WORKING ON THIS. I
THANK YOU. WITH THAT THERE ARE
NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
AND NOW YOU MAY CLOSE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS.
THIS IS MENTIONED. OKAY HAVE A
MOTION FOR. AB TWELVE EIGHTEEN
OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION BY A
CENTER BLAKE SPEIR. AND WITH
THAT IT'S IS DUE PASSED A
HOUSING. SENATORS CABALLERO. SO
YOU'RE TELLING OF LOADING. LAKE
SUPERIOR. LEG SPINNER I DOLLY.
RUSSELL GLAZER. GLAZER AYE
SKINNER. WIENER. TWO ZERO. SO
WE'RE GONNA HOLD IT OPEN AND-
AND LEAVE IT ON CALL. AND OTHER
MEMBERS COME IN AND- VOTE. ALL
RIGHT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE.
THIS IRWIN IS IN THE BUILDING
OKAY. ASSEMBLY MEMBER IRWIN.
LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TO BILLS I
THINK ONE OF THE ONE ON CONSENT
- OR MAYBE I THREE NO THAT'S
WHAT YOU DO YOU HAVE DO ON
CONSENT. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT SO THIS IS AB SIXTEEN
THIRTY SEVEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER OR
WHEN YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE
READY- THANK YOU MISTER THE VERY
MUCH MISTER VICE CHAIR AND
SENATORS. I AM PLEASED TO
PRESENT AB SIXTEEN THIRTY SEVEN
WHICH WILL REQUIRE CITIES AND
COUNTIES TO MIGRATE THEIR PUBLIC
FACING INTERNET WEBSITES AND
EMAIL ADDRESSES TO DOT GOV OR CA
DOT GOV DOMAIN. I'M ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS THAT
HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF
YOU TO EXTEND THE IMPLEMENTATION
TIMELINE BY ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS
GIVING A TOTAL OF FIVE YEARS TO
MIGRATE TO THE DOT GOV DOMAIN.
AS ALL OF YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC'S
TRUST IN GOVERNMENT IS
FOUNDATIONAL FOR A HEALTHY
DEMOCRACY WITH RISING LEVELS OF
MISINFORMATION AND FRAUD
PERPETRATED ONLINE AND MORE AND
MORE SOPHISTICATED THREAT ACTORS
INTENDING TO CONFUSE AND MISLEAD
WE CAN NO LONGER BE HAPHAZARD
ABOUT HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE
PRESENTED ONLINE. A REVIEW OF
CITY. DO YOU STOCK UP MANY STILL
USE DOT COM DOT ORG DOT NET OR
DOT U. S. ALL THESE OTHER
DOMAINS CAN BE EASILY PURCHASE
BY ANYBODY AND SPOOF LEGITIMATE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BY REGISTERING
A DOMAIN WITH A SLIGHT TYPO OR
ADDING TERMS LIKE CITY OF. SO I
JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN REALLY
CLEARLY A DOT GOV U. R. L. IS A
PLATE IS OBTAINED THROUGH A
GOVERNMENT AGENCY WHICH VERIFIES
THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY A
GOVERNMENT AGENCY. ALL THESE
OTHER- DOT ORG'S AND A DOT COMS
CAN BE PURCHASED ONLINE. IN A
NUMBER OF MINUTES FOR VERY
LITTLE MONEY AND THEY CAN BE
USED WITH WITH SLIGHT VARIATIONS
TO FOOL CONSTITUENTS. I WE SAW
AN EXAMPLE OF THIS DURING THE
COVERT NINETEEN PANDEMIC WHEN
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
ANNOUNCED ALL. ERICA'S COULD
ORDER FREE CODE LOOK. TESTS
ONLINE OVERNIGHT SECURITY
RESEARCHERS SAW OVER SIX HUNDRED
DOMAINS REGISTERED ATTEMPTING TO
SPOOF THIS NEW GOVERNMENT
SERVICE WHICH WAS A CODED TEST
GOV .COM- CALIFORNIA'S LOCAL
GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE EVERY
EFFORT TO SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC'S
TRUST IN OUR INSTITUTIONS
ESPECIALLY WHEN FEDERAL GRANTS
DIRECT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PLAN
FOR THIS DOMAIN TRANSFER. AND
FEDERAL AND STATE AUTHORITIES
OFFERED DOT GOV DOMAINS FREE OF
CHARGE EARLIER THIS YEAR THE
FEDERAL OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND
BUDGET PUBLISHED A MANDATE FOR
ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES TO USE DOT
GOV OR DOT MIL FOR OUR- DOT MIL
FOR THE MILITARY SERVICE. STATE
GOVERNMENTS HAVE ALSO MADE THE
MOVE ALL INTERIOR INVOLUNTARILY
IN A NEAR UNANIMOUS WAY. I DO
WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS A FEW OF
THE CRITICISMS LEVELED. BY THE
OPPOSITION FIRST MANY FORM
LETTERS FROM CITY'S COMPLAIN
THAT A CAPABILITY GAP ASSESSMENT
OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS NEED TO BE
INCLUDED IN THE BILL. THIS
IGNORES THE FACT THAT CAL OH YES
HAS ALREADY CONDUCTED THIS
ASSESSMENT THIS SPRING WITH
RESPONSES FROM OVER A HUNDRED
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THE RESULTS
ARE BEING TABULATED NOW AND WILL
INFORM THE CYBER SECURITY PLAN
TO BE COMPLETED AT THIS
SEPTEMBER. SECOND MANY LETTERS
NOTE THAT THE TRANSITION TO A
NEW DOMAIN WILL GENERATE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FRAUDSTERS TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE WHEN CITIES AND
COUNTIES ARE SHIFTING DOMAINS.
THIS CONCERN HOWEVER
DEMONSTRATES THE NEED FOR THE
BILL AS THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
EXIST TODAY WITH NO DEFENSE. AT
LEAST WITH AB SIXTEEN THIRTY
SEVEN CONSTITUENTS WILL HAVE A
DOT GOV WEBSITE THAT THEY CAN
ALL TRUST. THERE'S ALSO BEEN
CRITICISM ABOUT COST ESPECIALLY
FOR SMALLER OR RURAL CITIES AND
COUNTIES HOWEVER MANY LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS LARGE AND SMALL
URBAN AND RURAL HAVE ALREADY
SWITCHED TO DOT GOV. IF THE
STATE'S LARGEST COUNTY LA AND
THE STATE'S SMALLEST COUNTY
ALPINE CAN BOTH GO TO DOT GOV IT
DOESN'T SEEMS INSURMOUNTABLE FOR
THOSE THAT ARE IN BETWEEN. I'VE
SPOKEN TO THE COUNTY OF VENTURA
WITH A POPULATION OF OVER EIGHT
HUNDRED THOUSAND AND ONE OF MY
SMALLER CITIES WITH A POPULATION
JUST OVER TWENTY THOUSAND AND
BOTH ARE ALREADY PLANNING TO.
MIGRATE TO DOT GOV. IN CLOSING
THE DOT GOV HAS BEEN VOLUNTARY
FOR A VOLUNTARY OPTIONS FOR
CITIES AND COUNTIES FOR TWO
DECADES. SO WHEN YOU ADD THE
FIVE YEARS THAT THIS BILL IS
ASKING FOR THAT THE GIVING THE
CITIES AND COUNTIES AND YOU ADD
THE TWENTY YEARS THAT IT HAS
ALREADY BEEN VOLUNTARY. THE
CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE TWENTY
FIVE YEARS TO MIGRATE OVER TO
DOT GOV. I BELIEVE IT ISN'T
IMPORTANT FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS
REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE OR
TO HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF
CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN THEIR
ONLINE INTERACTIONS WITH THEIR
GOVERNMENT. MIGRATING TO DOT GOV
OR CA DOT GOV WILL SECURE THAT
TRUST. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT I'M
GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU BROUGHT A-
PRIMARY WITNESS- I'M HERE ALONE
BECAUSE WELL I WAS HAS HE
EXPLAINED IT SO WELL I CAN'T
IMAGINE THAT YOU NEEDED A
PRIMARY WITNESS THIS ON. THANK
YOU IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM
THAT LIKE TO WEIGH IN. WITH
THEIR SUPPORT ON THE BILL. IF
NOT IS THERE ANYBODY IN
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL WHO WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK AS A PRIMARY
WITNESS. YOU GET TWO MINUTES.
GOOD MORNING- MISTER CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS JIM LIGHTS ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA AIRPORTS
COUNCIL- AIRPORTS ARE NOT YOUR
TYPICAL CITY OR COUNTY
DEPARTMENT- MANY ARE DOT COM
LEGACY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
SPENT DECADES BRANDING. AROUND A
DOT COM DOMAIN. END THEIR SEARCH
IS INTEGRATED WITH AIRLINES AND
WITH SOME OF THE- OUTSIDE-
TRAVEL SITES SUCH AS EXPEDIA AND
TRIPADVISOR AND KAYAK AND- AND
THOSE IN SO THE PROCESS OF
CHANGING TO A DOT GOV- WOULD
REALLY CHANGE THE BRANDING. THAT
MANY OF THESE HAVE INVESTED IN-
MOREOVER AT THIS POINT WITH THE
AMENDMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE
ASSEMBLY WE HAVE AIRPORTS THAT
ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY NOW IN
THE BILL SOLELY BASED ON THEIR
GRAVERT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. SO
OUR CITY AND COUNTY AIRPORTS ARE
STILL CAPTURED BY THE BILL SUCH
AS L. A. X. SFO IN OAKLAND. YET
OUR SPECIAL DISTRICT AIRPORTS
LIKE SEEN DIEGO BURBANK AND
ONTARIO ARE NOW OUT OF THE BILL
AND SO WE'RE OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
AIRPORTS REMOVED FROM THE BILL
AND CERTAINLY TREATED
CONSISTENTLY WITHIN THE PROPOSAL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AS A PRIMARY
WITNESS. THAT'S THE TWO MINUTES
. YOU'RE SPEAKING AS A PRIMARY
RESIDENCE YEAH GOOD MORNING I
CHAIR AND MEMBERS DATA
CONSTANTLY CALIFORNIA CITIES
WANTED TO INTRODUCE ONE OF OUR
MEMBERS- SAY HONG- WITH- AS THE
CITY OF ROSEVILLE CHIEF
INFORMATION OFFICER WHO ALL
REMAIN- MY- PROVIDE MY REMAINING
TIME. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MORNING EVERYONE MY NAME IS KHAN
SAY AND I'M THE CHIEF
INFORMATION OFFICER WITH THE
CITY ROSEDALE. IN MY- PART TIME
JOBS I SERVE AS THE PAST MIXTEC
PRECEDENT WHICH STAND FOR
MUNICIPAL INFORMATION SYSTEM
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WHICH
REPRESENT ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY EIGHT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
CHAU FROM SAN DIEGO ALL THE WAY
UP TO SAN FRANCISCO AREA
INCLUDING ROSEVILLE AS WELL AS
SACRAMENTO. AND ALSO PART OF MY
WORKS THAT I DO SITES ALSO SERVE
AS THE WORK GROUP- LEAD FORTY
CALLOW YES CYBERSECURITY GRAND
IT CAME DOWN FROM HOMELAND
SECURITY AND FEMA GROUP. WE ALSO
WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE C. I.
S. A. HOME AND SECURITY GROUP
WITH MS ISAC AS WELL TOO. SO THE
THREE COMPONENTS WE REALLY
APPRECIATE ASSEMBLY WOMAN'S
EFFORTS OUT HERE TO TRYING TO
SECURE ALL THE CYBER SECURITY
PRACTICE OF ALL LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. BUT A THREE
COMPONENTS HERE THAT WILL NEED
TO BE AWARE L. IS THAT THIS IS
ABSOLUTELY UNFUNDED MANDATES
ROSE TO A LOAN FOR CHANGING THE
WEBSITE Tê DOT GOV. ALL THE
PROGRAMMING CHANGES ALL THE
SINGLE SIGN ON ALL THE
ENCRYPTION. COSTS ALMOST
APPROXIMATELY SIX HUNDRED FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS WE'RE VERY
FORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT
BUDGET IN ALL PROJECTS PUT THIS
YEAR MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT
TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE THE
PROGRAM. THE SECOND COMPONENTS
OUT HERE IS ABOUT THE SCHEDULES.
ORIGINALLY ON THE BILL'S TODAY
BEFORE WE STEP IN HERE WAS A TWO
YEAR AFTER IT'S ALL HERE WE
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT US UP NOT.
EFFORTS TO MAKE IT IS OPTIONAL
IN MOVING FORWARD KEEP IN MIND.
DOT U. S. DOMAIN NAME WAS. QUOTE
UNQUOTE FULL GOVERNMENT SECTOR
FIFTY YEARS AGO AS A TOP LEVEL
DOMAINS. THIRD AND FOREMOST
SECURITY ON THE WEBSITE. WEBSITE
IS THE FRONT AND ACCESSIBLE ALL
LOCAL JURISDICTION AND ALL ALL
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE COMPONENTS IN THE FOR
CRM CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP
MANAGEMENT THREE ONE ONE.
ENCRYPTION FOR PI INFORMATION IF
WE'RE NOT SECURING IT COMPLETELY
BUT INSTEAD JUST MOVING TO A
DOCK OF COMING. IF YOU LOOK AT
THE LATEST MOVE IT VULNERABILITY
EVEN INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. DOT
GOV DOMAINS ARE BEING TRANSFER
AND HACKWORTH VULNERABILITIES
OUT THERE. SO DOT GOV IS NOT THE
ONLY WAY TO SECURE A DOMAIN
PLATFORMS THAT WE HAVE. IN
CONTINUATION WILL LEAD TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ASSEMBLY
WOMEN'S IN PARTNERSHIP. TO
IMPROVE. THE WHOLE ENTIRE
CALIFORNIA. LOCAL AND GOT. SIDE
WAS A- PAUL IN THE- AND HAPPY
DANCE ANY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY THIS MORNING.
SO THIS TIME OF THE ME TO.
ANYBODY COME UP- ATTY THERE
OPPOSITION JUST YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION YOU REPRESENT THAT
YOU OPPOSE. GRISLY ON BEHALF OF
THE URBAN COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. YEAH
. WHICH CHAIR MEMBERS GREG COOK.
REPRESENT OTHER CALIFORNIA POWER
AGENCY IN OPPOSITION. THIS
CHAIRED MEMBERS J. SNACK ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ALSO IN
OPPOSITION FOR THE REASONS
ALREADY STATED. PATRICK WELCH
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
OF THE ASSOCIATION OF.
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. IS A
STELLAR SHIRE AND VISUALS ARE
LYING ON TOP OF SOLANO AND KERN
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES
TO SPEAK. IF NOT WE'RE GONNA GO
TO THE PHONE LINES SO THE
EIGHTEEN T. OPERATOR IF YOU CAN
DIAL UP AND GET SOME PEOPLE ON
THE LINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
EITHER THEIR OPPOSITION OR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL AND FOLKS
JUST REMEMBER IT'S JUST YOUR
NAME. THE ORGANIZATION YOU
REPRESENT AND WHETHER YOU
SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THE BILL THANK
YOU. AND CERTAINLY THANK YOU AND
AT THIS TIME PLEASE PRESS ONE
ZERO SO IF SO AGAIN PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO. WE CAN GO TO LINE ONE
HUNDRED PLEASE GO AHEAD. ABOUT
THE TWO DIFFERENT COUNTY
OPPOSITION. GIVE SMALL IN A
COUPLE MORE QUEUING UP HERE.
MEXICO TO LINE. NINETY TWO. GOOD
MORNING THIS IS MICHELLE GAYLE
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BUSINESS
OFFICIALS IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. AND NEXT WE'VE GOT LINE
FORTY THREE. HELLO SANDRA SMITH
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY CLERK'S
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
THE CITIES OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA
REDWOOD CITY AND SANTA ROSA AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK YOU
. AND CURRENTLY NONE FURTHER IN
Q. VERY GOOD THANK YOU THAT
BRINGS IT BACK TO THE DICE ANY
OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DOES
WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN SENATOR
BLAKE SPEIR. THANK YOU I THINK
THIS IS A GREAT IDEA- AND I
COMMEND YOU FOR THINKING OF IT
WHEN YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF
EXPLAINING THE NEED FOR IT IT
REALLY SHOCKED ME THAT ONLY 5%
OF CITIES USE THAT ACCORDING TO
THE STATE'S ANALYSIS. BECAUSE I
COVER THE CITY EVENTS NEED US
AND OURS WAS AND SENATORS DOT CA
DOT GOV AND I KNOW THAT I'M FREE
I FREQUENTLY DO LOOK AT THAT
WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH IN
MY MIND OF SOMETHING'S LEGIT OR
NOT AND THERE ARE TIMES. WHERE
YOU DON'T KNOW AND SO I THINK
HAVING ORDER IN THE SYSTEM IN MY
CREATING ALL GOVERNMENT OVER TO
THIS REALLY MAKES SENSE. I
WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU THE
OPPORTUNITY I SAW I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS TODAY I WANTED
TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
RESPOND TO THE AIRPORT ISSUE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST
THING TO DO IN THE AIRPORT SPACE
AND THEN AND I'LL JUST SAY JUST-
THAT TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN IF
WE CAN'T WORK OUT THE AIRPORT
ISSUE TO EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION
IN THIS BILL. WILL BE OKAY WITH
ME THAT WE DO THAT ON SECOND
SECOND BILL BUT THAT WE TRY TO
MOVE ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
INCLUDING AIRPORTS IDEALLY ALL
AIRPORTS OVER TO IT AS WELL BUT
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOUR
THOUGHTS WERE ON THAT. CERTAINLY
AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT
UP- THAT OUR OUR CALCULATIONS
ARE THAT IT'S- ABOUT A THIRD OF
THE CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT
HAVE ALREADY MIGRATED TO DOT
GOV. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT
FIVE PERCENT. NUMBER I CAME FROM
WE HAD INCLUDED INITIALLY
SPECIAL DISTRICTS AND- BECAUSE
LET'S FACE IT. WE ARE ALL
VULNERABLE TO CLICKING ON A-
WEBSITE THAT IS IMPERSONATING A
LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.
AND THERE IS REALLY NO ARGUMENT
TO EXCLUDING AIRPORTS- THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE-
BASICALLY TOLD US TO THEY WANTED
A SMALLER SCOPE AND TO JUST
INCLUDE CITIES AND COUNTIES SO
SOME AIRPORTS THAT ARE IN THAT
GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. ARE
INCLUDED IN THIS BILL ALL. BUT
WHEN LISTEN TO AIRPORTS THEY
DON'T. EXPLAIN HOW EXEMPTING
THEM- DOESN'T POSE A RISK TO OUR
CONSTITUENTS JUST SAID THEY WANT
THE PAST ALSO. AND WHEN THEY
TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY
MARKETING IF THEY WANT THEY CAN
ALWAYS POINT. FROM A .ORG TO A
DOT GOV- U. R. L. SO THERE IS-
YOU KNOW THAT'S IT THAT'S
BASICALLY TAKEN CARE OF ALSO AND
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE MORE
TIME. WHEN THEY WERE ASKING FOR
VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. THIS HAS
BEEN VOLUNTARY FOR TWENTY YEARS.
AND ALL AND WE ARE GIVING AN
ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS SO THAT I
DO WANT TO. EMPHASIZE THAT AGAIN
SO LET ME AND WHEN WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT- YEAH SOME DOT GOV
WEBSITES ARE HELLO HAVE BEEN
HACKED WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS IS
THE FIRST OF ALL THE FIRST
PRIORITY IS TO PROTECT OUR
CONSTITUENTS SO. YOU HAVE THE
CITY OF THOUSAND OAKS YOU HAVE A
FRAUDSTER WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL
THAT SAYS. THAT SAYS- NO CITY OF
THOUSAND OAKS SLIGHTLY
MISSPELLED THE DOT ORG AND THEY
WILL PUT A LINK TO A SOMETHING
THAT LOOKS LIKE YOUR WATER BILL
FOR INSTANCE. AND SO
CONSTITUENTS ARE THE ONES THAT
ARE REALLY GOING TO BE LOSING
MONEY BECAUSE BECAUSE WE THE
CITY'S USE A DOT ORG NOT A DOT
GOV BUT- WHEN THE CHAU WAS
TALKING ABOUT WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT ALL CITIES ARE SAFE.
HAVING A DOG OF U. R. L. IS ONLY
ONE PART OF THE SOLUTION IT'S
LIKE LOCKING YOUR FRONT DOOR THE
DOT GOV. WEBSITE OR U. R. L. IS
SAFER BECAUSE- AND AS MULTI
FACTOR AUTHENTICATION AND IT
DOES PRE LOAD THE WEBSITES TO
MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE VERIFIED
WEBSITES. BUT IT'S ONLY ONE PART
OF THE SOLUTION WE KNOW THAT
EVERYBODY IS VULNERABLE AND
THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT NEED
TO BE DONE BUT THIS IS. ONE OF
THE VERY BASIC ELEMENTARY STEPS
TO START TO MAKE GOVERNMENT
WEBSITE SAFER. BUT RIGHT NOW THE
BIGGEST THING IS PROSPECTING ALL
ALL ARE CONSTITUENTS AGAINST
FRAUD THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT
WHEN THEY GO TO A DOT GOV
WEBSITE. THAT IT CANNOT BE
IMPERSONATED. THANK YOU JUST ONE
MORE ONE MORE COMMENT SO I AM I
AM THE- SENSITIVE TO THE AIRPORT
ISSUES BECAUSE ALSO I SERVED ON
THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY AIRPORT
AUTHORITY. AS THE MAYOR OF THE
CITY OF ENCINITAS I WAS
APPOINTED BY THE COASTAL MAYORS
TO BE ON THE BOARD SO. I DO SEE
IT VERY MUCH AS A GOVERNMENTAL
ENTITY AND ALWAYS. THAT IT WAS
RUN AND SO WHEN I JUST LOOKED IT
UP TO CONFIRM THAT IT IS AT W.
W. W. DOT SANDWICHES THE AIRPORT
CODE S. A. N. DOT ORG. AND I
THINK YOU MADE A GREAT POINT
THAT THEY COULD STILL OWN THAT
THEY COULD STILL OWN SAND DOT
ORG AND USE IT IN THEIR
MARKETING. BUT THEN IT WOULD
ACTUALLY POINT TO A DOT GOV THAT
WOULD BE WHAT WOULD APPEAR ON
HERE. SO IF ANYONE TYPED INTO
GOOGLE ST DOT ORG THEY WOULD
THEY WOULD BE ROUTED TO THE DOCK
OUT WHICH WOULD BE A LEGIT THE
LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT SIDE. SO
DOESN'T MEAN THEY WOULD HAVE TO
GIVE THAT UP NECESSARILY. AND I
UNDERSTAND SAN DIEGO IS IN THE
CATEGORY THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO
MAKE THIS CHANGE BASED ON THE
AMENDMENTS IN THE ASSEMBLY. I
THINK THAT WAS THE INFORMATION I
UNDERSTOOD BUT- BUT REGARDLESS I
THINK IT'S A IT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT THE FACT
THAT. THEY COULD STILL ON BOTH
OF THEM IT'S JUST THAT THE
OFFICIAL WANT TO BE THE DOG OUT
AND WE WOULD HOPE EVEN THE
AIRPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN.
EXCLUDED THAT THAT THEY WOULD
LOOK AT. GOING AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE ALSO TO GAGO GOT DOT
GOV. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
SMALL CITIES YOU KNOW AGAIN THE
SMALLEST CITY SIERRA JUST FOR
DOCTOR OF IDEA FOR SENATOR. DR
FOR SENATOR GLAZERS SIERRA HAS.
ALREADY MIGRATED OVER TO DOT
GOV. BUT IT IS THE SMALLEST
CITIES WITH THE LEAST RESOURCES
THAT ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE. TO
COSTLY HACKS AND SO WE REALLY
NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO.
STRENGTHEN OUR- CYBER SECURITY
STANCE HERE IN THE STATE AND
THAT'S ALL THE WAY FROM THE
STATE LEVEL AND- RUN. TEN BILLS
ARE READY. TO STRENGTH AND THAT
BUT THE VULNERABILITY FOR THESE
HACKS THE VULNERABILITY FOR
FRAUD. OF FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS
IS REALLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO
I APPRECIATE- YOU UNDER. THAT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- AND WE'VE
HAD SOME- CONVERSATIONS PRIOR TO
THE HEARING I THINK YOU. KNOW
THE DILEMMA THAT I'M RIGHT
WRESTLING WITH WHICH IS THAT
YOUR YOUR GOALS ARE LAUDABLE.
AND THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING
TO TRY TO PROTECT. THE
INTEGRITY. OF OUR INFORMATION
SYSTEMS IS EXACTLY WHAT.
EVERYONE SHOULD BE DOING. SO YOU
CAN'T ARGUE AT ALL WITH THAT THE
GOALS THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED. AND
THE DILEMMA FOR ME AND IF IT WAS
MY CITY WHEN I WAS A MAYOR
COUNCIL MEMBER I WOULD MAKE A
CASE TO MY- STAFF ABOUT WHY THIS
IS IMPORTANT AND VALUABLE OKAY-
THE DILEMMA IS THAT. TO YOUR
YOUR YOUR YOUR GOALS ARE ALIGNED
WITH ANY CITY'S GOALS SO YOU GET
THE THOUSAND OAKS EXAMPLE THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT. THOUSAND OAKS
SHOULD BE THINKING THAT SOMEONE
COULD DEFRAUD OUR SITE AND THEN
PLAY GAMES WITH THE YOU'RE ALL
IN AND ALL THE REST AND- AND
THAT'S THE REASON THAT YOU'RE
ALIGNED WITH THEM ON WHY THEY
SHOULD MAKE THE CHANGE BUT
THEY'RE MAKING THE CHOICE. TO
NOT DO IT. I AND I THINK THEY'RE
ALL ADULTS IN THE ROOM MAKING
THESE CHOICES EVEN IF I WOULD
DISAGREE WITH THAT CHOICE. IT'S
NOT LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE PREYING
ON THE VULNERABLE. OUR CITIES
ARE SMART EVERY LEVEL I'VE
ALWAYS BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE
LEADERSHIP. BOTH ELECTED AND
APPOINTED- AND SO IT'S LIKE
WE'RE SAYING NO GOVERNMENT
SHOULD STEP IN IN THAT SPACE AND
TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. AND I KNOW
THE TIMELINE IS GENEROUS THAT
YOU PROVIDED IN THE BILL. BUT
THAT WE SHOULD FORCE IT ON THEM
WHEN OUR GOALS ARE ALLEGEDLY
ALIGNED AND THAT'S WHAT CREATES
THE DILEMMA FOR ME AS TO WHY WE
SHOULD STEP IN. WITH THAT KIND
OF A MANDATE. AND IF I MIGHT
JUST. RESPOND THERE AND WOULD
YOU LIKE DID YOU. HANDLE THAT
YOUR CLOTHES- SHARK OKAY GREAT.
OKAY WELL THEN I DIDN'T REALIZE
I WAS HANDLING IT IN MY CLOTHES-
RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. OF THE YOU
KNOW WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN MY
WORK WITH STATE AGENCIES IS THAT
EVERYBODY IS VERY RELUCTANT TO.
TAKE ON A NEW MANDATE AND WE
HAVE REQUIRED THROUGH NUMEROUS
BILLS TO. ATTACK HAVE EVERY
STATE DEPARTMENT RUN SECURITY
ASSESSMENTS AND REPORTS ON ON.
WHAT THEIR CYBER SECURITY
STANCES AND WHERE THE
VULNERABILITIES ARE WE ARE ALSO
NOW AFTER A NUMBER OF YEARS WE
ARE REQUIRING ALL THESE
CONSTITUTIONAL. OFFICES ALSO- IT
TO STRENGTHEN THEIR CYBER
SECURITY STANCE BUT THERE WAS
NEVER A STATE AGENCY THAT CAME
UP HERE AND SAID- DO THIS TO US.
BUT WE DID IT BECAUSE IT MAKES
OUR CONSTITUENTS SAFER AND SO
WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY'S- CITIES
YOU KNOW THEY'RE ALL ADULTS
THERE YES OF COURSE I'M VERY
MUCH A- LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SUPPORTER THEY THEY BUT THEY ARE
NOT GOING TO COME AND ASK FOR A
MANDATE. WHAT THIS IS REALLY
DOING THOUGH IS PROTECTING THEIR
CONSTITUENTS THEY MIGHT NOT BE
PRIORITIZING- CYBERSECURITY BUT
THEIR CONSTITUENTS ARE THE ONES
THAT WHEN THEY GO TO A YOU KNOW
A FRAUDULENT DOT COM WEBSITE.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING
TO POTENTIALLY BE LOSING MONEY
OR HAVE SOMEBODY HACKED THEIR
THEIR INFORMATION THEY MIGHT BE
GIVING UP THEIR PRIVATE
INFORMATION SO. IT IS AT TIMES
THE STATE DOES STEP IN TO ASK-
CITIES THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE
RELUCTANT TO PRIORITIZE THIS
STATE THAT IT'S THERE'S TIMES
THAT IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR THE
STATE TO STEP IN TO PROTECT
THEIR CONSTITUENTS SO. I WOULD
ANSWER THAT WAY AND TO- I KNOW
THIS IS- I KNOW IT'S- ALWAYS A
DIFFICULT SUBJECT- NOBODY LIKES
TO SPEND MONEY ON PREVENTION.
NOBODY LIKES TO SPEND THE TIME
TO THINK THROUGH HOW WE DO
PREVENTION WE ALL LIKE TO DO YOU
KNOW BRITAIN CUTTINGS FOR. FOR A
NEW BUILDINGS BUT I THINK IT IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE-
ALL AT THIS. AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL AND AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
INVEST MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT.
THAT WE PROTECT THOSE CITIES AND
OUR CONSTITUENTS AND WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. VERY
GOOD IS. THERE IS A MOTION- THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. SENATORS CABALLERO HI
CABALLERO I SEYARTO. YEAH THEY
ARE TOOK NOTE LAKE SUPERIOR. LEG
SPINNER I DOLLY. DOURESSEAUX
GLAZER. SKINNER RIGHT SKINNER
AYE WIENER THREE TO ONE. PUT
THEM. ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MOVING ON IS ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LOWENTHAL. YES YOU
ALREADY DID OKAY- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER CORKS. OKAY THAT'S A LIE
. YEAH. MISKA RIGHT RIGHT OKAY.
THE DRAFT FOR TWO YEARS. GOOD
MORNING MATT CHAIR MEMBERS OF
COMMITTEE I'M HERE TO PRESENT
TWELVE SO PUB REST. THIS BILL
RE. CITIES CHARTERS COUNTY AND
OF SPECIAL DISK PAR IN LIFE TO
REPORT TO THE TO OF PUBLIC
HEALTH. AND AN INVENTORY OF THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACCESSIBLE
PUBLIC RESTROOMS THAT ARE
AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL
POPULATION. THE DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC HEALTH WILL UTILIZE THIS
DATA TO COMPILE A COMPREHENSIVE
REPORT FOR THE LEGISLATURE
DETAILING THE AVAILABILITY OF
PUBLIC RESTROOMS BY COUNTY WITH
THE DEADLINE OF MARCH FIRST
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE. THE
LEGISLATURE SHELL THEN UTILIZE
THE INFORMATION FROM THE REPORT
WHEN EVALUATING THE PUBLIC'S
ACCESS TO RELIABLE PUBLIC
RESTROOMS. MEMBERS AS YOU KNOW
WE JUST HAVE COME OUT OF A
PANDEMIC AND THROUGH THAT PENNED
PANDEMIC MANY OF OUR PUBLIC
FACILITIES INCLUDING COMMUNITY
CENTERS PARKS CLOSE THE
RESTROOMS. SADLY MANY OF THOSE
HAVE NOT REOPENED I AND THE
QUESTION ASKS NONE OF US LIKE TO
TALK ABOUT IT BUT WHERE DO YOU
GO. THERE HAVE BEEN MORE AND
MORE ARTICLES WRITTEN FROM NEW
YORK TO LOS ANGELES TILT TO SAN
DIEGO ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
HOMELESS WHERE DO THEY GO. ALL
WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE A WALK
AROUND THE CAPITAL IN THE
MORNING WHICH I DO USUALLY ABOUT
SIX THIRTY- AND IT'S EVIDENT.
BUT IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IT'S
ALSO ABOUT SENIORS IT'S ABOUT
TODDLERS IT'S ABOUT THE WORKERS
WHO DRIVE. SO FOR OUR ECONOMY-
WHERE DID THEY STOP WHEN THERE
ARE NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS ONE OF
THE ARTICLES THAT DEBT WAS
REFERENCES THAT MANY PEOPLE- IN
CITIES HAVE TO IN ESSENCE
PULLOVER TO A COFFEE SHOP AND
BUY A COFFEE IN ORDER TO GO. SO
THIS- THIS BILL WILL BE A
REPORT. IT WILL. BE REPORTED
BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE. BUT IT
DOES NOT MANDATE THAT A CITY OR
COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD
BATHROOMS IT'S JUST AN
ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IS OPEN ON
AND- AND ESSENCE SOMETIMES WE
HAVE PUBLIC FACILITIES BUT WE
KNOW THEY'RE LOCKED- ANYHOW
BECAUSE SO MANY OF US CAN
MISTAKENLY TAKE OR ACCESS TO
BATHROOMS FOR GRANTED. IT'S EASY
TO FORGET THE CALIFORNIA ONLY
BANNED THE USE OF PET PAY
TOILETS IN NINETEEN SEVENTY FOUR
WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT
CONCEPT BECAUSE IN OTHER
COUNTRIES WE KNOW. THAT THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DO PAY
FOR. IT WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT
INCLUDING THAT HERE BUT IT IS
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THE
FUTURE. WELL PUBLIC ENTITIES
MAINTAIN LISTS OF PUBLIC TRANSIT
STATIONS LIBRARIES AND PARKS AND
POLLING PLACES THE COLLECTION OF
DATA ON PUBLIC RESTROOMS HAS
BEEN OVERLOOKED BY GATHERING
THIS VITAL INFORMATION FROM
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE STATE CAN
DEVELOP EVIDENCE BASED POLICIES
REGARDING PUBLIC RESTROOMS.
SUPPORTED BY EMPIRICAL DATA AND
INFORMATION WITH ME TODAY TO
PROVIDE SUBJECT EXPERT TESTIMONY
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL IS
MISTER RON HOTCH BOMB IN ISSUE
AREA EXPERT AND ASSISTANT
CLINICAL PROFESSOR OF LAW AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF PACIFIC MCGEORGE
SCHOOL OF LAW AND SACRAMENTO.
THE FLOOR IS YOURS THANK YOU A
CITY MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNANCE
AND FINANCE COMMITTEE THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
EXPERT TESTIMONY TO YOU TODAY.
MY NAME IS RON HOP BOMB I'M AN
ASSISTANT CLINICAL PROFESSOR OF
LAW AT THE UNIVERSITY OF THE
PACIFIC MCGEORGE SCHOOL OF LAW
WHERE I DIRECT THE HOMELESS
ADVOCACY CLINIC CAN TEACH
POVERTY LAW. IN TWENTY TWENTY I
PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE ENTITLED
BATHROOMS AS HOMELESS RIGHTS
ISSUE AND WHICH I CONCLUDE THAT
THE ABILITY TO USE THE BATHROOM
IS CENTRAL TO OUR CONCEPTION OF
HUMAN DIGNITY AND IT'S PRECISELY
WHY BATHROOM ACCESS HAS BEEN
PART OF EVERY CIVIL RIGHTS
MOVEMENT. OF THE LAST CENTURY IN
THE ARTICLE I DRAW A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN THE AVAILABILITY AND
ACCESSIBILITY OF PUBLIC
BATHROOMS BECAUSE AN AVAILABLE
BATHROOM I A ONE THAT IS
PHYSICALLY PRESENT. IS OF
LIMITED UTILITY IF IT IS NOT
ACCESSIBLE. ONE BARRIER TO
PUBLIC BATHROOM ACCESS IS THAT
THEIR LOCATIONS ARE FREQUENTLY
UNKNOWN EVEN TO THE CITIES AND
COUNTIES THAT OPERATE THEM.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAINTAIN
CENTRALIZED LISTS AND MAPS OF
PARKS SCHOOLS PUBLIC TRANSIT
LINES POLLING PLACES IN
LIBRARIES BUT BATHROOMS ARE
NOTICEABLY ABSENT. AB TWELVE
NINETY SEVEN WOULD RECTIFY THAT
AND BE AN IMPORTANT PERSIST
FIRST STEP TOWARDS PROMOTING
BATHROOM ACCESSIBILITY. FOR
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WORK IN
OFFICES SUCH AS DELIVERY DRIVERS
AND GIG ECONOMY WORKERS. PEOPLE
WHO MUST ACCESS BATHROOMS WITH
INCREASED FREQUENCY INCLUDE
SENIORS PREGNANT WOMEN FAMILIES
WITH CHILDREN. AND PEOPLE WITH
PARTICULAR MEDICAL CONDITIONS
AND COMMUNITIES THAT BOTH
HISTORICALLY AND PRESENTLY ARE
DENIED BATHROOM ACCESS SUCH AS
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WOMEN
PEOPLE LIVING WITH DISABILITIES
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. AND PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS I'D BE
REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THAT
GIVEN THE WAVE OF TRANSPHOBIC
LEGISLATION SWEEPING THE NATION
AT THE MOMENT. AB TWELVE NINETY
SEVEN IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR
STATE TO REAFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT
TO BEING A WELCOMING HEALTHY AND
SAFE SPACE. I'M UP FOR OUR TRANS
BROTHERS SISTERS AND SIBLINGS AB
TWELVE NINETY SEVEN HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO STIMULATE THE
ECONOMY. PROMOTE PUBLIC HEALTH
PROTECT WORKERS. AND CORRECT
LEGACIES OF DISCRIMINATION AT
ITS CORE IT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE
AND I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO
SUPPORT ITS PASSAGE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT.
TESTIFYING SUPPORT AND ROOM
TWELVE HUNDRED. IS THERE ANYBODY
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OFFICE OPPOSITION. THAT IN HERE
IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED. A MAN
WILL MOVE TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LAW- PLEASE COME FORWARD IF
YOU'D LIKE TO. MAYBE IN BETWEEN
. NOT IN OPPOSITION BUT- YEAH
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND-
MEMBERS- EDUARDO LOPEZ POLICY
FELLOW WITH THE WAS INSERTED
ALONG POVERTY HERE IN SUPPORT
OF. AB TOLD NINETY SEVEN. THANK
YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU. ANYONE
ELSE. AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS DAMON CONNOLLY
CALIFORNIA CITIES NOT OPPOSE THE
BILL JUST ONE EXPRESSED SOME
CONCERNS- WE HAVE WORKED OUT-
WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE ON THE
MOST READERS. RECENT ITERATION
OF AMENDMENTS WHICH WE
APPRECIATE- WE DO ONLY- OUR OUR
OUR ISSUE IS- WHILE WE HAVE- ARE
IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE AUTHORS
GOALS HERE WE JUST FEEL THAT AS
THIS IS A STATEWIDE ISSUE OTHER
STATES. SHOULD BE PROVIDING AN
INVENTORY AS WELL- THOSE
BATHROOMS RESTROOM SHOULD BE
INCLUDED IN IN THOSE INVENTORIES
AND MADE ACCESSIBLE SO THAT'S
ALL THAT'S ARE OUR ONLY ISSUE.
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU SO
MUCH ANYONE ELSE. FOR AGAINST-
CONCERNED. SEEING NONE I WILL GO
UP MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY
CUED UP THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AGAIN LATER GALLON PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. YES ONE
ZERO GIVE US JUST A MOMENT HERE
. I CAN GO UP FIRST IN LINE
SEVENTY SEVEN. ONE SECOND HERE
THEY WANT PRIVATE HERE JUST ONE
MOMENT. THE LINE. ONE SIXTY SIX.
HELLO THIS IS NO MORE TO HELP
WITH A TELL YOU CALIFORNIA
ACTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
HAVE A MORE HERE GIVE ME JUST A
MOMENT. WHAT A WHAT LINE. ONE
SIXTY SEVEN. WITH THE GARLIC ANY
AND I OPPOSE. TWELVE NINETY
SEVEN. STREAM ONLINE SEVENTY
SEVEN. YES THIS IS LINDA RICH
AYE OPPOSED- THIS BILL I THINK
IT'S REDUNDANT- THE SPEAKER
MENTIONS THAT. AND MAN. WE DO
HAVE ONE IN CUTE GIVE ME JUST
ONE HERE.
I REMEMBER IS ONE ZERO. NEXT
DEADLINE. ONE SIXTY EIGHT. MY OF
A FACTOR CAL RIGHT THIS BILL
THANK YOU. AND THEN THERE IN
CASE THANK YOU VERY WILL BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
COMMENTS CENTER BREAKTHROUGH YES
THANK YOU- I REALLY LIKE THIS
BILL A LOT I THINK IT'S SO
IMPORTANT AND I'M SO GLAD THAT
YOU'VE BROUGHT IT FORWARD- I'M
AN ENTHUSIASTIC YES ON THIS I
JUST I WANT TO JUST COMMENT THAT
I APPRECIATE YOUR LEAD WITNESS
SAYING THAT- HAVING A BATHROOM
IS CENTRAL TO HUMAN DIGNITY. I
THINK EVERYTHING HE SAID I
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH AND IT'S
SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO
FOCUS ON MORE AND I JUST WANT TO
GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF IN MY
EXPERIENCE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
WE CUT I CUT THE RIBBON AS THE
CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION
AGENCY AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE ON
ELEVEN MILES OF NEW TRANSIT
THIRTEEN STOPS WITHOUT ONE
BATHROOM. AND THIS IS THIS
PROJECT WAS OVER IT WAS ONE
POINT ONE BILLION DOLLARS A
PUBLIC MONEY THAT WE PUT INTO
BUILDING FOR IT FOR MULTIPLE
DECADES PLANNING. BUILDING
CUTTING THE RIBBON ON NEW
TRANSIT STOPS WITH NO BATHROOMS.
AND WHEN WE STARTED TO WHEN THIS
BECAME EVIDENT TO ME AND OTHERS
AND WE STARTED TO ASK ABOUT THIS
THE ANSWER FROM THE TRANSIT
AGENCY WAS WELCH'S TOO
EXPENSIVE. AND IN THE REAR THE
FACT THAT THAT IS A AN
ACCEPTABLE ANSWER FOR PUBLIC
MONEY TO BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES
TO SERVE THE PUBLIC THE DON'T
HAVE BATHROOMS. IT'S JUST A
REALLY TOP PROBLEM AND I THINK
THE REALITY ALSO OF THE HOMELESS
SITUATION AS IS TALKED ABOUT IN
THIS REPORT BUT AND ALSO BY- THE
LEAD WITNESS. IS THAT IT'S A
DOWNWARD SPIRAL IN THE RACE TO
THE BOTTOM BECAUSE MORE HOMELESS
PEOPLE NEED BATHROOMS AND SO WE
DON'T WANT TO BUILD AS MANY
BATHROOMS AND THE BATHROOMS AND
STARBUCKS ARE CLOSED AND- AND
ALL OF THAT IS. GOING IN THE
WRONG DIRECTION SO I'M
ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS BILL AND
THEN THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF
BILLS WHERE WE CAN START TO
REQUIRE THAT PUBLIC MONEY WHEN
IT'S BUILDING PUBLIC FUNDS
BUILDS BATHROOMS BECAUSE- IT AS
WAS SAID AT CENTRAL TO HUMAN
DIGNITY. AND IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T ALLOW
THAT KIND OF THING TO HAPPEN
AGAIN. THANK YOU CENTER SKINNER.
WITH OUR- PRESHEAF MY COLLEAGUE.
FROM INSIDIOUS IS GREAT COMMENTS
I WOULD HAVE. PAID THE SAME. BUT
I WOULD. JUST MAKE. THIS ONE. AS
STATING THE OBVIOUS THAT BY
VIRTUE OF ARE EITHER NOT
BUILDING. PUBLIC RESTROOMS OR
CLOSING THEM WHICH IS THE OTHER
TREND ELIMINATING THEM. WE ARE
FORCING PEOPLE TO URINATE AND
DEFECATE OUTSIDE. WHICH IS A
PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM. SO
REGARDLESS OF THE REASON THAT
SOMEONE MAY NEED TO USE A
RESTROOM- AT WHAT WERE WHAT THE
CATEGORY OF PERSON. BY NOT
PROVIDING IT WE ARE. IN ESSENCE
SAYING IT'S OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO
ALLOW WE'RE GOING TO. YOU KNOW.
PUT OUR BLINDERS ON. AND THAT IS
NOT APPROPRIATE SO. I APPRECIATE
YOUR BILL. AND I WILL MOVE IT IF
I DIDN'T REALIZE DID YOU ALREADY
MOVE IT NO I WILL MOVE IT. WE DO
HAVE MOTION SENSORS SAY R. TWO.
THANK YOU AND I AGREE WITH MY
COLLEAGUES JOB IMPORTANT
BATHROOMS ARE- AND IN THIS BILL
DOES NOT CREATE BATHROOMS IT
JUST CREATES AN INVENTORY OF
WHAT WE HAVE- AND THE CONCERNS
OF MY COLLEAGUES- CAN BE
ADDRESSED. AND WE TRY TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUES OF WHAT IT COSTS TO
BUILD PUBLIC ANYTHING. AND THE
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT- BECAUSE
WE WANT THOSE THINGS ENDED TO BE
PROLIFERATING IN OUR SOCIETY WE
HAVE TO MAKE THEM SO THAT THE
PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD THEM-
SO- I. HAD A COUPLE OF US- ONE
OF THEM. JUST NEED TO PUT IN TWO
BATHROOMS ONE POINT EIGHT
MILLION DOLLARS PER BATHROOM AND
DOLLARS. AND A MOUNTAIN OF
PAPERWORK AND A MOUNTAIN OF. ALL
ALL ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT
COME WITH BUILDING SOMETHING IN
CALIFORNIA WITH IT AND SO WE
HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IF WE
REALLY WANT. TO ENSURE THAT- THE
CITIES CAN BUILD- FACILITIES
THAT EVERYBODY CAN USE- AND THE
ONES TO GET CLOSED. THEY'RE
GETTING CLOSE BECAUSE PEOPLE
GOING THEIR THEIR VIEWS ON. AND
YOU CAN'T GO TO THE BATHROOM IN
A BROKEN TOILET. AND SO THOSE
ARE THOSE ARE ALL ISSUES AS TO
WHY IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE
ARE TRYING TO BE MEAN. IT'S
BECAUSE THEY BECOME NON
FUNCTIONAL VERY QUICKLY AND SO
COSTLY THAT NOBODY CAN BUILD YOU
KNOW NOBODY CAN KEEP UP WITH
THOSE COSTS- SO- SO ANYWAY BACK
TO YOUR BILL IT'S JUST. YOU'RE
JUST DOING THE INVENTORY AND-
BUT IT YOU KNOW ONE OF MY
CONCERNS IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES
WILL DO AN INVENTORY AND THEN IT
GOES ON TO THESE MANDATES FOR
MORE MORE MORE FACILITIES.
THEY'RE OUT THERE- BUT A LOT OF-
BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL VERY VERY
RAPIDLY. AND AND SO- ANYWAY I
JUST WANTED TO SHED A LITTLE BIT
OF MORE LIGHT ON ON SOME OF THE
COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD THANK
YOU. CENTER DOLLAR WERE ON ON-
FILE ITEM NUMBER FOURTEEN IT'S
THAT REPORT ON THE PUBLIC
RESTROOMS IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE
A COMMENT THAT'S FINE. NOT WILL
ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE. YES I
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BY THE
MEMBERS AND I AGREE- THERE'S
ALWAYS A CONCERN OF MORE
MANDATES AND- I THINK ONE OF THE
THINGS EVENTUALLY IS TO LOOK AT
MODELS WHERE YOU CAN DO THESE AT
A VERY LOW COST I KNOW THAT I'VE
BEEN UP TO. SEATTLE THEY
ACTUALLY HAVE A SMALL PLATFORM
WITH A PORTABLE SO THEY CAN'T
GET KNOCKED OFF THE PLATFORM
IT'S A SINGLE STALL. IT WITH
LITTLE HAND WASHING STATION
OUTSIDE SO THERE ARE WAYS TO
ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES
THAT AND I'VE HEARD THEM TO THAT
YOU WANT PUBLIC ACCESS BUT THEN
IF THERE'S- CONCERNS OF.
LITERALLY PEOPLE MOVING INTO A
BATHROOM OR DANGEROUS SITUATIONS
AND OF COURSE THOSE ARE ALL TO
BE CONSIDERED BY THINK STARTING
THE CONVERSATION. AS WE ARE IS
HERE AND I DO AGREE WITH THE
OPPOSITION WE- WANTED TO INCLUDE
THE STATE BUT AS YOU KNOW
AMENDMENTS BECOME OUR BEST
FRIENDS SO WHEN WE'RE HERE SO.
WE ARE WILLING TO TAKE IT SLOW
AND STEADY. IN ORDER TO AT LEAST
OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION AS THIS
IS MY- THIRD TIME AND TO BE
HONEST ALL JUST SAY. WHO WANTS
TO BE THE LEADER OF THE BATHROOM
CONVERSATION NOT ME NECESSARILY
BUT I'VE SEEN IT SO OFTEN THAT I
THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT
WITHOUT AYE ASCA FOR YOUR VOTE.
FREE GOOD THE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SENATORS CABALLERO HI CABALLERO
I SEYARTO SEYARTO NO BLAKE'S
BEER. LAKE SUPERIOR I DAHLE.
DALI NO ALSO. GLAZER SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE WIENER THREE TWO TWO
WILL PUT THAT RANKING WE THE UP
TO MEMBERS- I BILL WE HAVE ONE
BILL LEFT. IS THAT IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO AB FOUR EIGHTY BY US
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAM AND- THE
SENATOR. SKINNER WILL BE
PRESENTING THAT BILL- ONE LET
THE- MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE KNOW
THAT THIS IS OUR LAST BILL AFTER
THIS WILL BE LIFTING THE CALL ON
ALL OF THE- FILES AND WILL NEED-
MEMBERS TO BE DOWN HERE SO THAT
WE CAN. WRAP UP AND FINISH OUR
HEARINGS TODAY. SENATOR SKINNER
ON. FOUR EIGHTY. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS PLEASED PRESENT
OUR WORLD. I'M ACTUALLY
PRESENTING THIS BILL ON BEHALF
OF A- ASSEMBLY MEMBER KING AND
WANTED TO EXPRESS- FROM HIM THAT
HE IS APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK
WITH COMMITTEE. AND IS ACCEPTING
THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE MAN'S
REESTABLISHING THE DEFINITION OF
SURPLUS LAND AND STRIKING
SECTION FIVE FOUR TWO TWO ONE
POINT FIVE. REQUIRING LOCAL
AGENCY TO INCLUDE
INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE AS PART
OF DISPOSITION AND DEVELOPMENT
AGENT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR NEW LARGE
SITES EXTENSION. REQUIRING
DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE FOR PROJECT
TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A LEGAL
RESTRICTION EXEMPTION. STRIKING
REQUIREMENT THE LOCAL AGENCIES
USE FORM PRESCRIBED BY EACH CD
FOR NOTICES OF DISPOSITION. AND
STRIKING REQUIREMENT THAT LOCAL
AGENCY NOTIFY EACH CD ABOUT
DISPOSITION OF EXEMPT THE
SURPLUS CERTAINLY. YEAH SO THE
ARE THE AMENDMENTS- I THINK I'VE
CORRECTLY ARTICULATED THE ONES
THAT WERE WORKED OUT WITH THE
COMMITTEE. ON SO THE PURPOSE OF
THE BILL IS TO ADDRESS THAT- I
OUT PUBLIC LAND IS AN IMPORTANT
ASSET FOR OUR- A GOAL TO ACHIEVE
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND VERY
OFTEN IT IS UNUSED PUBLIC LANDS
THAT CAN. ALLOW US TO BUILD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO AB FOR
EDIE CLARIFIES AND STRENGTHENS
THE SURPLUS LAND ACT TO CLOSE
ENFORCEMENT LOOPHOLES. TO CREATE
A PROCESS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
TO DISPOSE OF CERTAIN TYPES OF
EXEMPTS SURPLUS LAND. ON INTO-
DEFINE MORE THE ELIGIBLE LANDS
THAT FALL UNDER THAT TO CREATE A
NEW EXEMPTION FOR MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE
TOTALING LESS THAN TEN ACRES. ON
AND A VARIETY OF OTHER
SPECIFICS- BUT I WILL ALLOW MY-
WITNESSES TO PRESENT IN ITS
MICHAEL RAWSON FROM THE PUBLIC
INTEREST LAW PROJECT. IN J. T.
ERIC MARK FROM NONPROFIT HOUSING
. WELCOME. THANK YOU SENATOR
SKINNER FOR PRESENTING FOR
ASSEMBLY PERSON TAKING. HI
MICHAEL RAWSON I AM THE DIRECTOR
OF LITIGATION AND ADVOCACY AT
THE PUBLIC INTEREST LAW PROJECT
CO SPONSOR OF THE BILL- ALONG
WITH OUR NATIONAL NONPROFIT
HOUSING ASSOCIATION AND- SAN
DIEGO HOUSING FEDERATION IN EAST
BAY HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS WHO.
ALSO WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS
BILL WE ALSO MOSTLY ALL OF US
WORK ON AB FOURTEEN EIGHTY SIX
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE SLA
FOR A LONG TIME WE APPRECIATE
THE CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION WITH
THE COMMITTEE WE SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL. BUT THAT
ARE COMING OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE
AND- WHAT IS STILL FOCUS ON ONE
THING THAT I THINK IS A VERY
IMPORTANT PART OF THIS BILL AB
FOUR EIGHTY WOULD RESOLVE A LONG
STANDING. UNCERTAINTY WITH THE
SLA AND THAT'S WHAT DO YOU DO
WHEN A LARGE PROJECT IS BEING
DISPOSED OF SUCH AS A MILITARY
BASE CONVERSION OR MULTI USE
DEVELOPMENT OR MASTER PLANNED
COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE HUNDREDS
SOMETIMES THOUSANDS OF ACRES AND
THE- GOING TO THE SLA WAS A
CONFUSING PROCESS HOW DO YOU DO
THAT PIECE BY PIECE WELL THIS
BILL AS AN AMENDMENT IN IT THAT
SETS OUT A SYSTEM FOR APPROVING.
AND THROUGH THE THROUGH THE SLA
EXEMPTION SYSTEM PROVING LARGE
PROJECTS LIKE THAT AND IT WILL
ENSURE THAT AT LEAST 25% OF THE
HOUSING DEVELOPED IN THAT.
DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AFFORDABLE
BUT IT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR A
SYNCHRONIZED DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM
SO THAT BOTH COMMERCIAL NOT
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND
RESIDENTIAL HOUSING WILL BE
DEVELOPED IN SYNC SO YOU DON'T.
LOSE THE HOUSING AS THE
DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD- THIS
BILL I THINK WILL ALSO STOP THE
SO CALLED PARADE OF BILLS THAT
YOU'VE BEEN SEEING TO AMEND THE
SLX IT DEALS WITH ONE OF THE BIG
LOOPHOLES THAT WAS IN THE BILL.
REALLY LOOPHOLES JUST SOMETHING
THAT WASN'T ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED
AND THAT'S THE LARGE PROJECT
ISSUE. SO I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
IT IN. I THANK YOU FOR THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH THREE T. HI GOOD
MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS JUDY HATCHBACK I AM WITH
THE NONPROFIT HOUSING
ASSOCIATION OF. NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA CO SPONSOR OF THE
BEFORE EIGHTY WE'VE BEEN CLOSELY
INVOLVED WITH SURPLUS LAND ACT
IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF HOW
IMPORTANT OF A TOOL THIS IS TO
OUR MEMBERS IN ADDRESSING
CALIFORNIA'S. HOUSING CRISIS
IT'S AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS A
GOOD CHANCE OF BUILDING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON PUBLIC
LAND ENSURING THAT THAT PUBLIC
LAND CONTINUES TO SERVE A PUBLIC
GOOD. SINCE JANUARY TWENTY
TWENTY ONE HE C. DO HAS TRACKED
SURPLUS LANDS SURPLUS LAND
TRANSACTIONS AND FOUND. THAT IN
THE OVER TWO HUNDRED STANDARD
SLA DISPOSITIONS THE LOCAL
JURISDICTION PURSUE THE OPTION
OF HOUSING 11% OF THE TIME. 89%
OF THE TIME THEY PURSUED OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES WITH THAT LAND
IT'S RESULTED IN OVER EIGHT
THOUSAND HOUSING UNITS AND
NEARLY SIX THOUSAND OF THOSE ARE
AFFORDABLE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT OF THE SURPLUS LAND ACT
THROUGH A BEFORE EIGHTY. AMEND
CIGARETTE GRATEFUL TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THE
AMENDMENTS AND WE'RE VERY PROUD
TO SUPPORT EIGHTY FOUR EIGHTY
THANK YOU FOR. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MARCH THERE IS THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. YOUR
THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTS
TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT. STEVEN
RAMOS WITH PUBLIC ADVOCATES AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE. IS THERE ANYONE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD
. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
ERIN AVERY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION
ALSO HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
SANITATION AGENCIES. A
RESPECTFULLY WITH AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. I WANT
TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT I
UNDERSTAND SIGNIFICANT
AMENDMENTS- WILL BE COMING OUT
OF THIS COMMITTEE AS TO AB FOUR
EIGHTY- WILL REVIEW THOSE
MOMENTS AS SOON AS THEY'RE
AVAILABLE. AND WANT TO SINCERELY
THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAM. HIS
STAFF LINDA RIOS- IN THE
COMMITTEE STAFF IN THE CHAIR FOR
WORKING WITH US TO ADDRESS SOME
OF OUR CONCERNS ARE WHITE
INTERPOSE UNLESS AMENDED LETTER.
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ARE A KEY PART
OF THE STATE'S A SOLUTION TO THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. WE
PROVIDE ESSENTIAL LOCAL SERVICES
SUCH AS WATER WASTE WATER
SANITATION POWER IN HEALTHCARE
THAT SUPPORT BEFORE WILL
HOUSING. WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
NEED WITH THE SLA IS CLEAR IN
ESTABLISHED EFFICIENT RULES OF
THE ROAD. WE HAVE EXPRESSED
CONCERNS THAT SEVERAL ELEMENTS
OF AB FOUR EIGHTY INTERFERED
WITH THAT. PROPOSED CHANGES TO.
A SECTION FIVE FOUR TWO TWO ONE
B. ONE AS TO DEFINITIONS ABOVE
US SURPLUS LAND WOULD HAVE
INTERFERED WITH AGENCIES
PROVIDENCE- TO DECLARE PROPERTY
NOT NECESSARY FOR AGENCIES USE
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE
REVERSED IN A COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT. PROPOSED CHANGES IN
THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF SECTION
FIVE FOUR TWO TWO ONE POINT FIVE
D. WOULD HAVE REQUIRED NOTICES
TO EIGHT CITY OF DISPOSAL OF ALL
EXAM SURPLUS LAND- CREATING AN
INEFFICIENT AND BUREAUCRATIC
PROCESS AGAIN WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THAT WILL BE REVERSED. THROUGH
STRIKING. PROPOSED SECTION FIVE
FOUR TWO TWO ONE POINT FIVE. AB
FORTY PROPOSES TO AT FAIR MARKET
VALUE AS A BASIS OF CALCULATING-
PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING THE SLA.
WELL GENERALLY SPEAKING ADDING
FAIR MARKET VALUE WAS A
COMPONENT IS NOT A CONCERN. WE
JUST THINK THAT INCREASING
PENALTIES WITHOUT ADDING A
REQUIREMENT THAT THE VIOLATION
BE A SUBSTANTIAL VIOLATION IS A
CONCERN. WE ALSO HAVE SOME
SPECIFIC CONCERNS RELATED TO
CHANGES TO EXISTING EXEMPTS
SURPLUS LAND CATEGORIES IN THE
ADDITION OF A NEW EXAM SURPLUS
LAND CATEGORY IN THE PENALTIES
THAT ARE IMPORTED- AT LEAST
UNDER THE IMPRINT VERSION OF THE
BILL. A TO THAT PROPOSED EXAM
SURPLUS LAND CATEGORY BUT AGAIN
RECOGNIZING THAT MANY MY
COMMENTS MAY BE SUPERSEDED BY
AMENDMENTS COMING OUT OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'LL JUST SAY THAT
I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES
THE MINUTES WHEN THEY'RE
AVAILABLE AND AGAIN THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER
TING FOR WORKING WITH US THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS KERR BACKS I
HAVE A TEN ON THE PRESIDENCY OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION FOR
LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE
REPRESENT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS
OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS THAT ARE
CREATING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN
YOUR COMMUNITIES. WE ARE
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE BILL AS
IT IS IN PRINT BUT I UNDERSTAND
THAT SEVERAL OF THE AMENDMENTS
PERHAPS WILL ADDRESS SOME OF OUR
CONCERNS. OUR BIGGEST ISSUE
BEING THAT THE WAY THE ACT IS
CURRENTLY BEING IMPLEMENTED
IMPACTS HUNDREDS OF PROJECTS
ACROSS THE STATE AND I SUSPECT
THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE EXAMPLES
OF THOSE IN YOUR AND COMMUNITIES
THE DISTRICTS THAT YOU SERVE.
WHETHER IT'S THE CARNEGIE
LIBRARY NEW DEVELOPMENT IN YOUR
COMMUNITY MAKES DEVELOPMENT
AIRPORT JUST A LAUNDRY LIST OF
CHALLENGES WITH A LACK OF
CLARITY. WE APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S LEADERSHIP AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFFS- ANALYSIS AND
WE CONCUR WITH THAT ANALYSIS
WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL TO
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAM FOR HEARING
THOSE CONCERNS WE LOOK FORWARD
TO SEEING WHAT THE AMENDMENTS
LOOK LIKE IMPRINT. AND
CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS
IMPORTANT POLICY ISSUE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. CHRISLEY
ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN COUNTIES
OF CALIFORNIA ALSO WITH AN
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION
LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING THE
MOMENTS THANK. YOU THANK YOU ARE
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS THEIR
BRIDGE ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE DISTRICTS HERE WITH
THE RESPECTFUL OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION THAT WE DON'T
WANT OUR COMMENTS WITH MY
COLLEAGUE FROM CST. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. PATRICK WELCH
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILIZATION
ALSO WON A LINER COMMENTS WITH
CSKA AND THINK THE AUTHOR AND
HIS STAFF ON THE COMMITTEE STAFF
AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND ASK
MODERATOR IF YOU COULD TÌM. ANY
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. CERTAINLY THANK YOU
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME OF SORROW. DENNIS ONE ZERO.
WE CAN GO TO- LINE THIRTY FIVE.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM NUMBERS.
FOR WATER ON BEHALF OF BE A
PHONE YEAH. THANK YOU. LINE
FORTY THREE. HELLO BONTA LESS ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY'S PERU AND-
ROSA AND RESPECTFUL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I'M ONE HUNDRED.
AGAIN IF LINE ONE HUNDRED IS
OPEN. DAVID JOHN THE BAPTIST AND
MARKET SYNOPSIS. THANK YOU. A
LINE ONE SEVENTY. WHEN THE
COMPACTOR NINETY APPROACH TO THE
WAY THIS IS RICK. MAYBE IF THE
COMMANDED A LOT MORE. I WOULD
EXPECT THAT. THANK YOU MUCH.
LINE ONE SEVENTY FIVE. IDENTICAL
EUROBASKET INDIGO OF THE
FEDERATION WE SUPPORT- THOSE WHO
FINANCE BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING
A PROUD SPONSOR OF THIS BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU. AND THEN
FURTHER IN Q. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT
THE MATTER BACK TO THAT
COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS QUESTIONS
CONCERNS CENTER SEYARTO. IF I
COULD- IN ICING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS- THAT WE'RE PROBABLY
GOING TO START VOTING ON ON ON
OUR BILLS SO- IF THEY COULD WRAP
UP WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING AND
GET DOWN TO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE
GREAT SENATOR ALL RIGHT SO I'M
GONNA ASK A QUESTION THAT FROM
BEFORE THE AUTHOR. OF THAT MAYBE
WE'VE TALKED ENOUGH THAT YOU
KNOW. WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THE
BILL IS IT TOO. ALLEVIATE OUR
ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS
THAT CITIES HAVE HAD. OR IS IT
AN EFFORT TO CLOSE LOOPHOLES
THAT THE AUTHOR MAY SEE CITIES
HAVE ARE TRYING TO GET AROUND IN
ORDER TO GET AROUND THE ACT
ITSELF. I THINK IT IS- IT INTENT
IS EXACTLY WHAT THE LEAD WITNESS
MR RAWSON FROM PUBLIC INTEREST
LAW PROJECT EXPRESSED. WHICH IF
YOUR HONOR COME TO THE MIKE
AGAIN- INDIFFERENCE TO THE
SENATOR IF YOU YEAH IF YOU'D
LIKE TO COME IN AND ANSWER THAT
QUESTION THAT WOULD BE FINE.
APOLOGIES I SHE SAID THROUGH
THIS YEAR YES THAT'S FINE. I
ALSO NOTE THAT THE LINDA RIOS
FROM CENTER TO HIT ASSEMBLY
PRINTINGS OFFICES ALSO HERE
COULD ANSWER SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS BUT THE WELL
UNFORTUNATELY STAFF CAN'T BE I
CAN'T ON MY SKIN SO I DO
APPRECIATE THAT. THE
RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON YOU. IF
YOU CAN DO IT IF NOT THEN I'M
SURE IT'S SENATOR THAT SKINNER
CAN AS AS PART OF WHAT I SAID
EARLIER THE PURPOSE OF THE BILL
WAS TO DEAL WITH ISSUES THAT HAD
NOT BEEN ADEQUATELY DEALT WITH
IN THE INTO SURPLUS LAND ACT WAS
NOT TO. TO EXPAND IT OR CHANGE
IT WAS IT ALREADY ALREADY
APPLIED TO LARGE SITES AND IT
JUST NEEDED TO HAVE A SYSTEM FOR
AFFECTING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
DO. A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT
MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY- A DEAL
WITH THIS MILITARY BASES- IT IT
PROVIDED CLARIFICATION. AND IT
TRIED TO DO THAT SO THAT. WERE
CLARIFICATION WAS PROVIDED WAS
PROVIDED CONSISTENTLY. WITH THE
WAY THE SLA ALREADY APPLIES TO
OTHER DISPOSITIONS. I DON'T KNOW
THAT DID THAT ANSWER YOUR EIGHT
DIGIT WELL IT HELPS A LITTLE
TINY BIT. YEAH BECAUSE IN
REGARDS TO MOST OF THE ISSUES
THAT LOCAL AGENCIES AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE. IS THEY'RE NOT
HUGE PROJECT WE'VE HAD SOME OF
THESE COME THEIR US THERE ARE.
MANY I. MEAN NOT MANY BUT YEAH.
THERE ARE SOME LARGER PROJECTS
THAT CAME BACK BECAUSE I ON
HOUSING AND THE ASSEMBLY AND-
THEY BROUGHT THOSE TO US- BUT A
LOT OF THE EXEMPTION YOU'RE
SEEING ARE LIKE THE ONE WE WERE.
REQUESTS THAT WE ARE SEEING
OTHERWISE LIKE THE ONE EARLIER
TODAY- AND IT WAS IT'S KIND OF A
COMMON SENSE THING. AND THERE IN
THE CITIES ARE REALLY FRUSTRATED
BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS
THERE ARE THERE INSTANCES IN THE
SLA THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE AT
ALL. AS FAR AS A FROM A
DEVELOPMENT OR IN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN A FREEWAY
INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT
PERSPECTIVE. AND YET THE LAND IS
BECOME FROZEN. BECAUSE THE
AGENCIES ARE NOT ABLE TO DEAL
WITH THAT AND I WAS I WAS HOPING
. AS IS WE GET THESE FROM. FROM
FROM SOME OF THE MEMBERS THAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT
PROCESS. A LITTLE EASIER FOR
CITIES TO DEAL WITH. AS OPPOSED
TO MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT AND
WHAT I'M SEEING. IS WE'RE KIND
OF MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT.
THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS WITH
THIS BILL WELL I THINK- JUST.
VERY BRIEFLY AT THAT. MANY OF
THE- ADMITS THAT WERE WORKED OUT
WITH THE COMMITTEE DID ADDRESS A
NUMBER OF THE OPPOSITION'S
CONCERNS IN THE COURSES THEY
EXPRESSED THEY WANT TO REVIEW
THOSE BEFORE THEY REMOVE THAT
OPPOSITION BUT THERE IS SOME.
ELEMENTS THAT SOME OF- THERE'S
STILL SOME WET I THINK AGAIN NOT
TO SPEAK FOR THE OPPOSITION BUT
THERE'S- SOMETHING SOME PEOPLE
FEEL OUR FLAWS JUST IN. THE LAW
ITSELF NOT THIS BUT AND- WHILE
THIS BILL IS AFFECTING SOME
ELEMENTS OF IT IT IS NOT
COMPLETE WHOLESALE CHANGING THE
SURPLUS LANDS ACT. AND SO THE
AMENDMENTS WON'T NECESSARILY
ADDRESSED EVERY SINGLE CONCERN
THAT OPPOSITION RACE BECAUSE-
THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF THE
SURPLUS LAND ACT THAT THIS BILL
DOES NOT AMEND OR TOUCH. YEAH
THE FLAWS IN THE ACT WERE NOT IN
IN COVERAGE OF WHERE THEY WORK
IT WAS THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE
THINGS WERE CONFUSING AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS WHAT WERE NOT CLEAR
ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD APPLY THEM
OR FRANKLY HOW EASY. IT IS TO GO
TO THE SURPLUS LANDS AT PROJECT
I UNDERSTAND THANK YOU. CENTERED
I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT- WITH
ALL DUE RESPECT TO CENTER
SKINNER WHO'S TRYING TO. DO A
BILL THAT IS THAT WE JUST SAW
THE MEN IT'S AN ACT WE HAVE TWO
MORE MEETINGS THIS BILL DOESN'T
HAVE TO MOVE IT THIS POINTS
GOING TO APPROACH. AND WE'RE NOT
GOING TO BE ABLE TO THE
OPPOSITION- HUH- HOUSING ADDED
OKAY I WAS BY REMOTE SO LET ME
LET ME I MEAN WE'RE JUST A
POLICY COMMITTEE WHERE WE ARE AT
A DISADVANTAGE TO TRY TO DO THE
RIGHT THING. LOOK ALL OF US ARE
FACED WITH THIS THIS IS A
STATEWIDE PROBLEM ISN'T JUST
SOMETHING THAT IS GERMANE TO.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAMS AREA BUT
THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THERE
CAN BE SERVICE DISTRICT THERE'S
A LOT OF FACTORS THAT FACTOR
INTO TRYING TO GET THESE BUDGET
WE ALL AGREE THEY NEED TO BE
DONE BUT- I FEEL THE
DISADVANTAGED. TODAY BECAUSE THE
OPPOSITION HASN'T. US QUITE
FRANKLY IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO
SAY LET ME LET ME JUST JUMP IN
HERE TOO BECAUSE THIS IS BEEN AN
AREA WHERE I'VE DONE AN
EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK AS
WELL- I APPRECIATE CENTER-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. ADVICE
APPRECIATE YOU PRESENTING THIS
BILL BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR BILL.
BUT I ALSO- APPRECIATE THE WORK
THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAM HAS
DONE- HE HE TOOK. ALL OF THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE ASKED HIM TO
TAKE UP AND WE SPENT A LOT OF
TIME WORKING ON THIS. EXCEPT FOR
ONE. AND THE LAST ONE IS YOUR
REMEMBER I DID I SURPLUS LAND-
ACT. A BILL THAT HAS AS AS A
COMPANION. THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ACT THAT WE PASSED.
HIGHER TO THE SURPLUS LAND ACT
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT
CLARIFIES. THAT CITIES HAVE
OPTIONS AND GIVES MORE
FLEXIBILITY. AND WE- WILL SEE AT
THE END OF THE DAY. FIVE TO
SEVEN SURPLUS LAND BILLS THAT
ARE ASKED FOR AN EXEMPTION.
DON'T MAKE US RESPOND DON'T MAKE
US- FOLLOW THE SURPLUS LAND ACT
BECAUSE OF THIS THIS AND THIS
AND- IN MY MIND- WHEN YOU HAVE
MORE EXEMPTIONS. THAT THEN THE
BILL THE BILL THEN YOU HAVE
CREATED SOMETHING THAT'S GOT
SOME REAL PROBLEMS SO WHAT MY
BILL SEEKS TO DO IS TO SOLVE
SOME OF THE ISSUES OF
UNCERTAINTY. AND THEN- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER KINGS BELL I BELIEVE BOTH
OF THEM WILL OPERATE TOGETHER.
AND AND I ASKED HIM TO LINK THE
BILLS- I'VE ASKED ALL THE OTHER.
SURPLUS LAND. ACT BILLS TO BE
LINKED TO MINE AS WELL BECAUSE
MINE SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. IN
OTHER WORDS WE DON'T NEED THE
EXEMPTION IF YOU JUST PASSED MY
BILL YOU DON'T NEED ALL OF THE
MYRIAD EXEMPTION SO IT IS
COMPLICATED YOU GOT TO KIND OF
START READING THEM ALL TOGETHER.
SO IT IT. IF THIS HAD NOT.
NEEDED TO GO TO HOUSING I WOULD
HE SAID LET'S MAKE SURE
EVERYBODY'S CO PATHETIC WITH IT
BUT WE DO HAVE TO WE DO HAVE TO
MOVE IT ALONG AND HE DID TAKE
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THAT. OF
THAT- AMENDMENTS THAT- WE
PROPOSED AND I THINK IT'S IN
MUCH BETTER SHAPE COMING INTO
THIS COMMITTEE THEN. THAN IT WAS
BEFORE AND I BECAUSE I HAD THE
SAME. ISSUES IS THAT IT THERE
WAS GREAT CONFUSION AND IN IN
OUR CITIES AND COUNTIES. AND AND
SPECIAL DISTRICTS AS WELL
BECAUSE THEY HAVE LANDED THERE
GOING TO BE USING- FOR THEIR
PROJECTS. LONG TERM AND WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN. KEEP
THAT- SO- AND ENDOCYTE OPENED
WITH IF ASSEMBLY MEMBER KING WAS
HERE HE WOULD EXPRESS JUST AS I
DID HOW MUCH APPRECIATION HE
HAD. FOR WORKING WITH YOU IN THE
COMMUNITY. IN. IN THOSE CHANGES
. SO DOLLY THANK YOU SO MUCH
THAT I WILL LET THE BILL GOING
TO. HOUSING AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL
GET THERE THIS THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND I.
HOPEFULLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE
FLOOR IT'LL BE COOKED WITH ALL
THE OTHER FIVE BILLS THAT ARE
MOVING IN THIS AREA SO THANK YOU
FOR THAT EXPLANATION I REALLY
APPRECIATED. THANK YOU CENTER
BREAKS FOR. HEY BACK- I THERE'S
NO MORE QUESTIONS WILL ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE THANK YOU SO MUCH THE-
I NEED A MOTION. CENTER SKINNY
ONE WITH. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO AMEND IT DO PASSED AS
AMENDED THE HOUSING. THE DEATH.
SENATORS CABALLERO HI HOW ARE
YOU AT ALL I SEYARTO. SEYARTO NO
BLAKE'S BEER. THANKS I DOLLY.
GOOD AS- FLAY. SKINNER SKINNER
AYE WIENER THREE TO ONE. WE'LL
PUT THAT ON CALL AND WE'LL ASK
OUR- MISSING MEMBERS I KNOW THAT
WE HAVE- SENATORS THAT ARE
PRESENTING AND OTHER COMMITTEES
SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR THEM
TO- YES ACTUALLY LET'S TAKE UP
THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND THEN-
WE CAN. WILL HAVE FINISHED
EVERYTHING ALL ENTERTAINING
MOTION ON THE CONSENT SO MOVED.
MOTION IS MADE. MOTION IS SET UP
THE CONSENT CALENDAR SENATORS
CABALLERO HI THAT I GET ALL I
SEE ARE TO. SCARED TO ALL RIGHT
PLACE. LIKE SPARE DOLLY. DALI I
DO WRESTLE GLAZER SKINNER.
SKINNER I WIENER. FIVE ZERO. THE
THEIR CONTENT IS OUT BUT WE'LL
PUT IT ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH
THE ONES I MISS YEAH ME TOO JUST
OKAY WHEN I JUST STARTED THIS.
OKAY YEAH WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH
THE ROLE RIGHT NOW AND THEN WILL
CATCH THE ABSENT MEMBERS WHO ARE
PRESENTING ANOTHER COMMITTEE AS
I UNDERSTAND IT STARTING WITH
FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE. AB FOUR
FIFTY SEVEN BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
PATTERN PATTERSON THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
FLOOR. AND HE ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
BUT THE CHAIR VOTING I SENATORS
BLAKE'S BEER. LAKE SUPERIOR I DO
RUSSELL WIENER. SIX TWO ZERO
THAT BILLS THAT WE'LL PUT IT
BACK ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS WE'RE GONNA FILE ITEM OR
WE JUST INVITED A NUMBER TWO SO
WE'LL JUST SKIP THAT ONE- FILE
ITEM NUMBER WE AT NUMBER THREE
IS BEEN POLLED FILE ITEM NUMBER
FOUR. IS AB EIGHT NINETY TWO BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BAINES THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO SENATE LABOR
PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT
AND THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS
TO BE ADDRESSED AND SHE'S-
COMMITTED TO- WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE ON THAT. BUT THE CHAIR
VOTING I SENATOR SEYARTO.
DOLLING TO WRESTLE. GLAZER
WIENER THREE TWO ZERO. WAIT FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS ON THAT TO
PUT IT BACK ON CALL. UP FILE
ITEM NUMBER- FIVE AB NINE SIXTY
NINE BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER PELLERIN
DO YOU THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND SHE
DID TAKE THE AMENDMENTS AND- IN
OUR REPORT. BUT THE CHAIR VOTING
I SENATORS LAKE SUPERIOR LEG
SPINNER I DO NOT. WIENER. FORTY
TWO. THE BACK ON FOR THE ABSENT
. LIVING ON FILE I NUMBER SAID
EIGHT NINE TWO BY- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN. I HAVE. BEEN
IN MOTION. YOU PASSES AMENDED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. SENATORS CABALLERO I GOT A
YEAR AGO ALL RIGHT DALI DALI I
DO WRESTLE GLAZER WINNER FRIDAY
ZERO. THE BILL IS AVAILABLE BACK
ON OFF MEMBERS WORKING ON THE
FILE I AM I NUMBER TEN. AB SIX
THIRTY SEVEN BY ASSEMBLY IRWIN
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS SHE ACCEPTED
THE AMENDMENT. BUT THE CHAIR
VOTING I SENATORS DOLLY. DOLLY
NO THAT ASAL. GLAZER WIENER.
THREE TWO TWO. PUT THAT BACK ON
CALL. MOVING ON FILE ITEM NUMBER
. THIRTEEN WE HAVE MINUTES YES.
OKAY AB. AB TWELVE EIGHTEEN BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL THE
MOTION IS TO PASS THE HOUSING.
SENATORS CABALLERO HI HOW ARE
YOU AT ALL I SEE YOUR TOTAL.
DOLLY RUSSELL. SKINNER WHICH I'M
SORRY FILE ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN.
OKAY I'M HOLDING OFF THANK. OKAY
WIENER. THREE TWO THREE TWO
ZERO. WILL PUT THE BACK ON CALL
FOR THE MEMBERS MOVING ON FILE
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IN. AB TWO
NINE SEVEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER QUIRK
SO. DEMO IS DUE PASSED TO SEND
APPROPRIATIONS. THE CHAIR VOTING
I AM SENATE DRESSEL GLAZER
WIENER. THREE TWO TWO. AND FOR
THE BACK ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
. OKAY SECOND OUR RUN THROUGH
GONNA FOR THE MEMBERS. OKAY WE
WELL RECESSED TEMPORARY AND WAIT
FOR THE ABSENT TO SHOW UP.
OKAY WE'RE BACK ON AT WITH THE
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH
THE ROLL CALL AGAIN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS WILL START OFF WITH FILE
ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS AB FOUR
FIFTY SEVEN UP BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER PATTERSON THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
FOR. WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I
SENATORS DO IT ALSO WIENER
WIENER I SIX TWO OR SEVEN TWO
ZERO THE BILL IS OUT AND WILL
PUT IT BACK ON CALL FOR THE
ABSENT MEMBER WE ON FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO WHICH IS AB FOUR
EIGHTY BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER TING
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO HOUSING. WHAT THE CHAIR
VOTING ICE SENATORS DOLLY
RUSSELL GLAZER WIENER WIENER I'M
FORTY ONE PUT THAT BACK ON CALL
MOVING ON TO- FILE ITEM NUMBER
FOUR WHICH IS AB EIGHT NIGHT
CRUISE BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BAINES
- THREE WAS PULLED THAT'S
CORRECT. AND THAT IS THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED THE SENATE LABOR
AND PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT AND
RETIREMENT. BUT THE CHAIR VOTING
I AM SENATORS SAY YOUR TOTAL
DOLLY. TO WRESTLE GLAZER WIENER.
WIENER I'M FORTY ZERO. TO PUT
THAT BACK ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS WE ON FILE ITEM NUMBER
FIVE AB NINE SIXTY NINE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER PELLERIN THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
. BUT THE CHAIR VOTING I
SENATORS DO TRESSEL. WINNER
WINNER I'M EXCITED TO. THE BILL
IS OUT. AND WILL PUT IT BACK ON
CALL FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS FOR
THE ON THE FILE ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN- THAT IS. AB NINE SEVENTY
TWO BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER MAN CHINA
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. WHAT THE CHAIR VOTING I
SENATORS STOOD ASAL GLAZER
WIENER WIENER I. SIX TWO ZERO.
THAT BILL IS OUT WE'LL PUT IT
BACK ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. MOVING ON FILE ITEM
NUMBER TEN WHICH IS AB SIXTEEN
THIRTY SEVEN AND CAN I SAY ONE
THING BEFORE YOU OVER THERE ON
THAT YES ON THE ON THIS BILL I
DO I DO HAVE SOME OPEN QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE BILL I HAD A GOOD
CONVERSATION. WITH THE AUTHOR
AND I'M VERY APOLOGETIC FOR
MISSING HER PRESENTATION BECAUSE
I WAS PRESENTING BILLS AND
ASSEMBLY HOUSING- SO WE'RE GONNA
HAVE CONTINUED- DIALOGUE ABOUT
THIS BILL BUT I WILL BE
SUPPORTING MOVING IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE TODAY VERY GOOD AND
SHE DID ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT-
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSAGE AMEND
MENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS. BUT
THE CHAIR VOTING I AM SENATORS
DO ASAL GLAZER WINNER BY WIENER
I'M FORTY TWO. THE BACK ON CALL
FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS MOVING ON
TO FILE ITEM NUMBER. THIRTEEN
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE IT'S
BEEN PULLED UNTIL AFTER.
ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN PULLED. THAT
IT'S AB TWELVE EIGHTEEN. BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL AND
THE MOTION IS TO BEST TO THE
COMMITTEE ON HOUSING. WHAT THE
GERALDINE I'M SENATOR SEYARTO.
DOLLY TO ASSAM. SKINNER WIENER
AYE WIENER I'M- FORTY ZERO. FOR
THAT BACK ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN IT AB. TWELVE
NINETY SEVEN BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
QUIRK-SILVA. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BUT THE CHAIR
VOTING I'M SENATORS DO IT ALSO.
LASER WIENER. FIVE WIENER I'M
FORTY TWO. PUT THAT BACK ON CALL
FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS AROUND
FILE ITEM NUMBER. THAT'S IT AND
THEN WE HAVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. AND- PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
MOTION IS ABOUT THE CONSENT
CALENDAR SENATORS WOULD ALSO
GLAZER WIENER. WIENER I'M SIX
TWO ZERO THOSE THOSE BILLS ARE
OUT AND- WE'LL PUT THEM BACK ON
CALL FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
WITH THE.
WHAT. IT TAKES ANOTHER BRIEF
RECESS.
GO BACK TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS THE
END GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE WE'RE
GONNA GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL.
AGAIN WE'LL START WITH FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE AB FOUR YEAR FIFTY
SEVEN BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
PATTERSON MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE FLOOR. BUT
IT SHOULD WHAT THE CHAIR VOTING
I SENATORS DID ALSO. SEVEN ZERO
OKAY THEN WE'LL PICK UP FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS- AB
FOUR EIGHTY BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
TING THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO HOUSING. BUT THE
CHAIR VOTING I'M SENATORS
DOLLING DRESSEL GLAZER GLAZER I
FIVE TWO ONE THE BILL IS OUT
WILL PUT IT ON CALL FOR THE
ABSENT MEMBERS ARE MOVING ON TO
FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AB EIGHT
NINETY TWO BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
PAINS THAT MOTION IS DUE PASSED
THE SENATE LABOR PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT WHAT
THE CHAIR VOTING I AM SENATOR
SEYARTO DAWALY RUSSELL GLAZER
GLAZER I FRIDAY ZERO THE BILL IS
OUT WILL NOT PUT IT ON CALL PUT
IT BACK ON CALL. AROUND THE FILE
ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS AB
NINE SIXTY NINE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER PELLERIN MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED IT SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE BUT THE
CHAIR VOTING I AM SENATORS STOOD
OUT SO. FIGHTER TO. THE BILL IS
OUT FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AB
NINE SEVENTY TWO BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER MAIENSCHEIN
MOTION TO PASS AS AMENDED THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
WHAT THE CHAIR VOTING I'M
SENATORS DID US ALL. GLAZER
GLAZER I SIX TWO ZERO THE BILL
IS OUT WILL PUT IT BACK ON CALL
FOLLOWING THE ITEM NUMBER TEN AB
SIXTEEN THIRTY SEVEN BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER IRWIN. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. BUT THE CHAIR
VOTING I AM SENATORS DO TRESSEL
GLAZER. FORTY TWO. I PUT THE
BACK ON CALL. MOVE ON TO FILE
ITEM TO THIRTY AB TWELVE
EIGHTEEN BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LOWENTHAL THE MOTION IS TO PASS
TO HOUSING. BUT THE CHAIR VOTING
I AM SENATOR SEYARTO DAWALY.
DURACELL SKINNER FORTY ZERO. BUT
THAT BACK ON CALL. AND FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN AB TWELVE NINETY
SEVEN BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
QUIRK-SILVA MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. WHAT THE CHARITY I AM
SENATORS DID ALSO GLAZER GLAZER
AYE. FIND IT TO THE BILL IS OUT
HERE WILL PUT IT BACK ON CALL
AND THEN THE CONSENT IT- ITEMS.
FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX NUMBER
EIGHT NUMBER NINE NUMBER ELEVEN
NUMBER FIFTEEN MOTION IS ABOUT
THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE
CHAIR VOTING I SENATORS ALSO
GLAZER. GLAZER I SEVEN TWO ZERO.
THE THAT THOSE BILL OUR BILLS
ARE OUT AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON
CALL. AGAIN WILL BE EN ROUTE IN
. RECESS.
OKAY SENATE GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCES IS BACK IN ORDER WE'RE
GOING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA
UP ONE LAST TIME- STARTING WITH
FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE AB FOUR
FIFTY SEVEN BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
PATTERSON THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE FLOOR.
WITH WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I'M
SENATOR GRASSO DOURESSEAUX I
EIGHT TWO ZERO- THAT BILL IS OUT
EIGHT TWO ZERO WE'RE GOING ON
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS AT
SEVEN FIVE AB FOUR EIGHTY BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER TEAM THEM THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
HOUSING. WHAT THE CHAIR READING
I'M SENATOR DOLLY RUSSELL GRASSO
I'M. SIX TWO ONE. THAT GOES OUT
SIX TO ONE FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR
AB EIGHT NINETY TWO BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BAINES THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO SENATE LABOR PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT. WITH
THE CHAIR VOTING I'M SENATORS
SEYARTO DOLLY DID AWESOME DO NOT
SO I FRIDAY ZERO THAT BILLS OUT
FIVE TWO ZERO WE HAD A FILE
RIGHT. SIX TWO ZERO SIX TWO
ZERO. NO PROBLEM THREE OUT OF
FIVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB NINE
SIXTY NINE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
PELLERIN THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. WHAT
THE CHAIR VOTING I AM SENATOR
INTO IT SO GOOD SO I SIXTY TWO.
THE DALLAS OUT RANDOM FILE ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN AB NINE SEVENTY TWO
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. BUT THE CHAIR ABOUT
AN AYE SENATOR DO SO GOOD SO I'M
EIGHT TWO ZERO THE BILL IS OUT
EIGHT TWO ZERO. FILE ITEM NUMBER
TEN AB SIXTEEN THIRTY SEVEN.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER- WHEN MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. BUT THE CHAIR
VOTING I AM A SENATOR DO ASAL.
THE REST SO I GLAZER. FIVE TWO
TWO. THAT GOES OUT FIVE TWO TWO-
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE HAS WAS
PULLED FROM THE COMMITTEE SO
THAT BRINGS US TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER. THIRTEEN BY EACH
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL AB
TWELVE EIGHTEEN THE MOTION IS
DUE PASSED HOUSING. WHAT THE
CHAIR VOTING I AM SENATORS
SEYARTO DOLLY DID AWESOME DRESS
SO I SKINNER. FIVE TWO ZERO THAT
BILLS OUT FIVE TWO ZERO. NEXT
IS- FILE ITEM NUMBER FOURTEEN AB
TWELVE NINETY SEVEN BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER QUIRK-SILVA THE MOTIONS
TO PASS TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. BUT THE CHAMBER I
SENATOR DO IT ALSO DOURESSEAUX I
SIX TWO THE BILL IS OUT SIXTY
TWO AND THAT LEAVES US WITH THE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. FILE ITEM
NUMBER SIX NUMBER EIGHT NUMBER
NINE NUMBER ELEVEN NUMBER
FIFTEEN MOTION IS SET UP THE
CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I SENATOR DURACELL GOOD
SO I EIGHT TWO ZERO. THE CONSENT
AGENDA ITEMS OUT AS WELL AND SO
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