ALL RIGHT GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYBODY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING HERE- THE SENATE HAS
LIVE TO THE COSTA WE- MAY WE MAY
BEGIN AS A SUBCOMMITTEE TODAY SO
WE CAN HEAR- SOME OF THE ITEMS
THAT ARE NOT IN CONSENT SO WE
WILL DO THAT AND WE'LL DO THAT
BY- SIGN IN ORDER- MISTER KALRA
SOONER KALRA WAS HERE FIRST SO
WE WILL. TAKE YOU UP. WE WILL
NOT TAKE ACTION UNTIL WE HAVE
OBVIOUSLY ESTABLISH QUORUM- BUT
AT THIS POINT WE WILL BEGIN WITH
. AS A SUBCOMMITTEE ACTUALLY
BEFORE MISTER KALRA APOLOGIZE-
AND LIKE TO GIVE THE AUDITOR AN
OPPORTUNITY OR SEEK OUT
OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE A STATUS
REPORT- FOR US BEFORE WE BEGIN
HEARING THE AUDITS FOR THIS
HEARING. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN ALL
. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN- LIKE GIVE
IT COMMITTEE BRIEF- OVERVIEW OF
THE STATUS OF THE STATE
AUDITOR'S WORK IN PROGRESS
CURRENTLY WE HAVE TEN STATUTORY
AUDITS IN PROGRESS DEPENDING ON
THE RESULTS OF THE BUDGET ACT I
ANTICIPATE STARTING ELEVENTH.
WHICH IS OUR JUDICIAL COUNCIL
PROCUREMENT AUDIT- EXAMPLES OF
OUR STATUTORY AUDITS CURRENTLY
UNDERWAY INCLUDE THE STATE'S
FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT FOR
FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE TWENTY
TWO A WE ARE ALSO REVIEWING THE
DEPARTMENT OF- FISCALES EFFORTS
TO TRANSITION REMAINING
DEPARTMENTS ON TO THE FISCAL
SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE STATE
COMPTROLLER'S EFFORTS TO
TRANSITION ON TO FISCALE. MY
OFFICE IS ALSO CURRENTLY IN THE
PROCESS OF FINISHING UP ITS
STATE HIGH RISK LIST WHERE WE
IDENTIFY STATE AGENCIES AND
DEPARTMENTS ARE AT RISK OF FRAUD
WASTE AND ABUSE. TERMS OF THE J.
LACKS STATUTORY AUDITS WE
CURRENTLY HAVE THIRTEEN APPROVED
AUDITS IN PROGRESS AT THE
MOMENT. THREE OF THEM FROM OUR
PRIOR A JUNE TWENTY TWO HEARING.
ALL TEN FROM THE MARCH TWENTY
TWENTY THREE HEARING AND AS YOU
RECALL MISTER CHAIRMAN WE DID
HAVE AN AUDIT OF THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE THAT WE
PUT ON HOLD. MY OFFICE IS
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AUDIT WILL
COMMENCE BEGINNING SEPTEMBER
FIRST UNLESS I HEAR DIFFERENTLY
FROM THE COMMITTEE. IN TERMS OF
OUR AVAILABILITY TO START WORK-
WERE ABLE TO START TWELVE AUDITS
BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER. IT'S
SORT OF A STAGGERED START- MONTH
BY MONTH WE CAN START TO IN JULY
ONE IN AUGUST ONE IN SEPTEMBER
TO OCTOBER. AND THE REMAINING
SIX IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER SO
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT
THERE FOR YOU IN THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AND SO YOU KNOW THE
SCOPE OF OUR AVAILABILITY. WITH
THAT MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY VERY
MUCH MR- GRANTS OR SEEN OUR
AUDITOR APPRECIATE THE UPDATE-
SO AGAIN I'D ENCOURAGE ALL
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PLEASE
REPORT TO ROOM. FOR THIRTY SEVEN
FOR HEARING SO WE CAN ESTABLISH
A QUORUM AND- IMPACT ON TODAY'S
BUSINESS BUT BECAUSE WE ARE
SECOND SUBCOMMITTEE AT THE
MOMENT. WE'LL HEAR MISTER CAR AS
REQUEST WELCOME CORRECT THANK
YOU SO MUCH- MISTER CHAIR- YOU
KNOW. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME
TO PRESENT ON THIS AUTO REQUEST
REGARDING STATE PROCUREMENT. AND
HOW CALIFORNIA COULD AVOID
INADVERTENTLY CONTRIBUTING TO
THE DESTRUCTION OF TROPICAL
FOREST THROUGH STATE PURCHASING
I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU AND
YOUR STAFF. AND OF COURSE THE
GREAT WORK OF THE AUDITOR- THE
YOUNG FROM FOR BY HELPING INFORM
US- IN TERMS OF MAKING
LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATION. THAT
HELPS CALIFORNIA MOVED FORWARD-
I FIRST BECAME MORE AWARE OF THE
CRISIS REGARDING. TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION WHEN I WENT ON A-
DELEGATION SHIP WITHIN BY NO
DEFENSE FUND AND VISIT THE
AMAZON FOREST. AND THE
DEVASTATION COULD NOT BE MORE
CLEAR THAT WAS BACK IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN- AND SO THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT THAT- I IN OUR
SPONSORS BEEN WORKING ON FOR. A
NUMBER OF YEARS AND- THE FACT IS
TROPICAL FORCE NOT ONLY
REPLENISH MUCH OF THE WORLD'S
OXYGEN BUT ALSO CLOSE ROUGHLY
HALF OF ALL THE SPECIES THAT
LIVE ON THE PLANET.
DEFORESTATION OF THE RAIN THE
BLUE TO RAISE TENS OF MILLIONS
OF ACRES OF TROPICAL FORESTS
ANNUALLY. UNDERMINING
ENVIRONMENTALLY ENVIRONMENTAL
INTEGRITY INDIGENOUS RIGHTS AND
LABOUR PROTECTIONS. MUCH OF THIS
DESTRUCTION IS DONE IN THE NAME
OF PRODUCING CERTAIN COMMON
FOREST RISK COMMODITIES LIKE
PAPER PULP. TIMBER RUBBER COFFEE
PALM OIL SOY AND CATTLE.
PRESIDENT BY MILLIE CONSCIOUS
ECONOMIC POWER CALIFORNIA HAS
THE ABILITY AND RESPONSIBLY TO
COMBAT DEFORESTATION. ONE WAY TO
DO THIS WOULD BE FOR THE STATE
TO ENSURE THAT ITS SUPPLY CHAIN.
IS DEFORESTATION FREE THAT IS
FOR YOUR PRODUCTS DERIVED FROM
DEFORESTATION ACTIVITIES. THIS
AUDIT CAN HELP INFORM HOW THE
ISSUE TRULY LOOKS AT AND
PATHWAYS TOWARDS ADDRESSING IT.
THE NEED TO AUDIT CALPERS
PROCUREMENT. SYSTEM FOR TIES
DEFORESTATION AN ASSOCIATED
RIGHTS TO BE OF THIS OF COURSE
YOU NEED TO. FOR WELL OVER A DAY
TO MOVE IN EUROPE PUSH THE-
REVIEW AND REGULATE. IS LINKS TO
TROPICAL DEEP. AND THIS MOVE
JUST READ WAS ALL. IN A LAW THAT
EACH COMPANY. TO ENSURE THE
AGRICULTURAL COMMODITIES THE
IMPORT OR EXPORT WE'RE NOT
PRODUCE ON RECENTLY DIVORCED
DEFORESTED LAND. HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES THE NEW YORK STATE
LEGISLATURE JUST PASSED A
BIPARTISAN MEASURE. BASED ON
AFTER WE BEGAN HERE IN
CALIFORNIA TO MAKE STATE
PROCUREMENT TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION FREE. ABOUT
EARLIER EFFORT WAS MY EIGHTY
FOUR SIXTEEN THE DEFORESTATION
FREE PROCUREMENT ACT WHICH IS
UNFORTUNATELY VETOED BY GOVERNOR
SOME IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE. DUE
IN PART TO A LACK OF AWARENESS
AROUND THE STATE'S CURRENT
PROCUREMENT OF THESE
COMMODITIES. THIS AUDIT ALLOWS
US TO WORK WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION BY TAKING A STEP
BACK TO BETTER INFORM ALL OF US.
ON THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS
REGARDING PROCUREMENT OF FOREST
RISK COMMODITIES. THE OUT OF
ALSO SHED LIGHT ON THE CURRENT
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
TRANSPARENCY IN SUPPLY CHAINS
ACT OF TWENTY TEN. WHICH WAS
CREATED IN PART TO ENSURE THE
LARGE RETAILERS AND
MANUFACTURERS PROVIDE CONSUMERS
WITH INFORMATION THAT COULD
EDUCATE THEM ON HOW TO PURCHASE
GOODS PRODUCED BY COMPANIES.
THAT RESPONSIBLY MANAGE THEIR
SUPPLY CHAINS. WE HAVE SINCE
BASS OTHER BILLS ON IT LIKE A
BEFORE SIXTEEN AND A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW CALIFORNIA
IMPLEMENTS. AND ENFORCES CURRENT
LAW WILL HELP INFORM FUTURE
LEGISLATION REGARDING SUPPLY
CHAIN TRANSPARENCY. WOULD BE
PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY IS
DOUG NORMAN ECONOMIC POLICY
PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF
THE EARTH. AND NICK SACKETT
DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS
. WITH SOCIAL COMPASSION IN
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU ASSEMBLY
MEMBER KALRA AND GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR ALL OVER AS AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HERE
TODAY. MY NAME IS DOUG NORRLAND
AND I DIRECT THE ECONOMIC POLICY
PROGRAM AT FRIENDS OF THE EARTH.
ONE OF THE OLDEST AND MOST
RESPECTED ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTRY.
FOUNDED HERE IN CALIFORNIA OVER
FIFTY YEARS AGO. I'M HERE TO
VOICE OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE
AUDIT REQUESTED A- REQUEST
SUBMITTED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
KALRA REGARDING. CALIFORNIA'S
PROCUREMENT OF PRODUCTS LINKED
TO THE DESTRUCTION OF. TROPICAL
FORESTS. ACROSS THE WORLD.
GOVERNMENT SPEND AN ESTIMATED
THIRTEEN TRILLION ANNUALLY ONE
SIXTH OF GLOBAL GDP. IN THE
PROCUREMENT OF GOODS. THE AUDIT
REQUESTED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
KALRA INTENDS TO SHED LIGHT ON
THE ROLE OF CALIFORNIA'S
PROCUREMENT. IN DRIVING ONE OF
THE MOST CRITICAL PROBLEMS OF
OUR TIME TROPICAL DEFORESTATION.
AND IDEALLY THIS WILL LEAD TO
OUR STATE TAKING A GREATER
RESPONSIBILITY. FOR THE IMPACTS
OF ITS PURCHASING. TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION IS AT THE NEXUS OF
A MULTITUDE OF CRITICAL ISSUES.
THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY.
UNPRECEDENTED SPECIES LOSS AN
EPIDEMIC OF VIOLENCE AGAINST
ENVIRONMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS
DEFENDERS. WIDESPREAD ABUSES OF
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES RIGHTS. IN
THE ONGOING POTENTIAL OF DISEASE
PANDEMICS DRIVEN BY HABITAT LOSS
. THAT'S WHY FOR WELL OVER A
DECADE OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN
LEADING EFFORTS TO REFORM
CORPORATE SUPPLY CHAINS AND TO
ADVOCATE FOR DEMAND SIDE
REGULATIONS. TO STEM THE TIDE OF
THE GLOBAL DEFORESTATION CRISIS
. DURING THE COURSE OF THIS WORK
WE'VE SEEN INCREDIBLE PROGRESS.
HUNDREDS OF CONSUMER BRAND AND
AGRIBUSINESS COMPANIES HAVE
ADOPTED POLICIES COMMITTING THEM
TO ZERO DEFORESTATION SUPPLY
CHAINS. FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS
REPRESENTING NINE TRILLION IN
ASSETS. HAVE COMMITTED TO
ADDRESSING THE DEFORESTATION
IMPACTS OF THEIR INVESTMENT IN
THAT LENDING PORTFOLIOS. BY
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE. AND YET THE
CRISIS CONTINUES TO WORSEN IN
LARGE PART BECAUSE THESE
CORPORATE COMMITMENTS ARE NOT
BACKED BY SIMILAR COMMITMENTS
FROM GOVERNMENTS. THIS IS WHY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA AS AUDIT
REQUEST IS SO CRUCIAL. YOU CAN'T
MANAGE WHAT YOU DON'T MEASURE. A
PRELIMINARY STUDY CONDUCTED BY
FRIENDS OF THE EARTH SHOWED THAT
OF THE ROUGHLY TWO POINT FIVE
BILLION. IN CALIFORNIA STATE
PURCHASING IN TWENTY NINETEEN.
AS MUCH AS ONE QUARTER MAY BE
COMPRISED OF PRODUCTS WITH SOME
LINKS TO TROPICAL DEFORESTATION.
THAT MAY NOT OUR STATE HAS
TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO USE
ECONOMIC LEVERAGE TO DRIVE
POSITIVE CHANGE. AND THERE IS
PRECEDENT- AS JUST MENTIONED
LAST MONTH THE EUROPEAN UNION
PASSED A LAW THAT REQUIRES
COMPANIES. REGISTERED IN THE EU
MEMBER STATES TO ENSURE THAT
AGRICULTURAL COMMODITIES DAY
IMPORT OR EXPORT WE'RE NOT
PRODUCED ON RECENTLY DEFORESTED
LANDS. AND JUST LAST WEEK THE
NEW YORK LEGISLATURE VOTED UP
ITS OWN VERSION OF A BILL. THAT
WOULD MAKE MAKE STATE
PROCUREMENT DEFORESTATION FREE.
CALIFORNIA IS A LEADER IN
CLIMATE- RESPONSE AND A
SUSTAINABILITY LEADER AS WELL.
THE PROPOSED AUDIT WILL HELP
LAWMAKERS UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE
OF OUR STATE'S CONTRIBUTION TO
THE PROBLEM OF TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION. AND HELP GUIDE
POLICIES THAT ENSURE CALIFORNIA
IS ALSO A GLOBAL LEADER IN
PROTECTING. EARTH'S REMAINING
TROPICAL FOREST. WE HOPE YOU'LL
ACCEPT OUR RECOMMENDATION AND
SUPPORT ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA AS
CRITICAL REQUEST. THANK YOU LIKE
PROVIDE TESTIMONIES. YES THANK
YOU CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS NICHOLAS
SACKETT DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS FOR SOCIAL COMPASSION IN
LEGISLATION. I BELIEVE THE
AUTHOR STATEMENT AND THE
STATEMENT OF MR NOLAN SAYS MOST
OF IT I JUST WANNA ADD THAT- WE
DID CONDUCT A POLL- CONDUCTED BY
DATA OR BUILD THAT SHOWED 84% OF
REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE STATE
ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR- STATE
PROCUREMENT POLICIES
CONTRIBUTING TO TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION. AND THAT THIS
TRANSLATED INTO 81% SUPPORTING
THE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES THAT
GAVE RISE TO THIS AUDIT REQUEST-
SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP MORE
OF YOUR TIME BUT- WE BELIEVE
THAT THIS. I REQUEST WILL LAY
THE FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE OF
POLICIES THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE
TO SAVING THE RAINFORESTS OF
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
BOTH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY- NOW
WE'LL GIVE OUR STATE AUDITOR PUT
OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED NOW
SYSTEMS AND PARKS PLEASE GO
AHEAD THANK YOU CHAIRMAN
ALVAREZ- MEMBER KALRA AND OTHERS
ARE SEEKING AN AUDIT ESSENTIALLY
TO UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
TRANSPARENCY IN SUPPLY CHAINS
ACT OF TWO THOUSAND AND TEN. AS
WELL AS DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF
THE STATE'S PROCUREMENT DOLLARS
ARE BEING SPENT ON TROPICAL
FOREST RISK COMMODITIES- I'M-
JUST TAKING IT PART BY PART OF
PART BY PART ARE FIRST UP.
EFFORT IS GOING TO BE REALLY
FOCUSED ON THE TRANSPARENCY IN
SUPPLY CHAINS ACT. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THE
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD EACH PLAY A
ROLE IN ADMINISTERING THAT
PROGRAM OBVIOUSLY BE WORKING
OUT. WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE TO
MAKING SURE THAT- AGENCIES AND-
VENDORS ARE COMPLYING WITH THE
TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS OF
THAT LAW. FOR EXAMPLE ALSO TO
WHAT EXTENT THEY'RE CONDUCTING
INVESTIGATIONS OF THOSE WHO ARE
COMPLYING AND WHAT REMEDIES ARE
AVAILABLE TO THOSE THAT DON'T
PROVIDE THE REQUIRED
INFORMATION. ALSO WORKING WITH
F. T. B. I UNDERSTAND PLAYS A
ROLE IN TERMS OF ADVISING THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL IN TERMS OF
WITH VENDORS ARE SUBJECT TO THE
LAW. THE REQUEST ALSO ASKS OUR
OFFICE TO QUANTIFY FOR THE MOST
RECENT YEAR THE AMOUNT OF
PROCUREMENT DOLLARS SPENT ON
TROPICAL FOREST- COMMODITIES-
THE STATE HAS A VARIETY OF DATA
SOURCES AVAILABLE TO IT- THE
STATE CONTRACTING AND
PROCUREMENT REGISTRATION SYSTEM
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SKIPPERS AS
A- POTENTIAL DATA SOURCE FOR US.
AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS AS WELL
OVER A GENERAL SERVICES THAT WE
WOULD LEVERAGE IN TERMS OF
TRYING TO ANSWER THE MEMBERS
QUESTIONED- IT'S A FAIRLY
FOCUSED OBJECTIVE FOCUSING ON
THE MOST RECENT YEAR. AND THEN
THE FINAL PART OF THE AUDIT
REALLY AS THE- MEMBER IN THE
REQUESTS ARE INTERESTED IN
UNDERSTANDING HOW DOES THE D.
HOW DOES DGS IN THE STATE.
ESSENTIALLY TRACK. TROPICAL
FOREST- COMMODITIES AND BIO
FUELS TO WHAT ARE THEY DOING
WHAT AREN'T THEY DOING- AND MAIL
WIRE THE LAWS SURROUNDING THOSE
ISSUES. WITH THAT I ESTIMATE THE
AUDIT WOULD TAKE ROUGHLY TWENTY
FIVE HUNDRED HOURS IN SIX MONTHS
TO COMPLETE. THANK YOU MISTER
PARKS PRESHEAF THAT. I'D INVITE
THE AFFECTED AGENCIES IF THEY'RE
HERE TO- COME FORWARD AND-
PROVIDE SOME COMMENT. THANK YOU
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MET BETTER
DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
GENERAL SERVICES ALSO IN THE
ROOM IS ANGELES HELD UP YOU
DIRECTOR AND CHIEF PROCUREMENT
OFFICER. OUT WE APPRECIATE THE
REQUEST YOUR CONTINUED INTEREST
IN TROPICAL DEFORESTATION AND WE
WELCOME IN ORDER ON THE SUBJECT
IN PART BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD
THE RESOURCES TO DO AN IN DEPTH
STUDY OF OUR OWN. TO ASSESS
WHETHER STATE PURCHASES ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION. HOWEVER WE ARE
SOMEWHAT CONCERNED THAT THE
AUDIT SCOPE MAY NOT YIELD THE
INFORMATION NECESSARY TO ANSWER
THAT QUESTION. A SUPPLY CHAIN
TRACING CAN BE LABOR INTENSIVE
GIVEN THE MANY DIFFERENT
COMPANIES PROCESSING STEPS RAW
MATERIAL CAN GO THROUGH. AS IT
IS CONVERTED INTO A FINISHED
PRODUCT AND SOUL TWIN AND USER-
CURRENTLY THE GTG S. PROCUREMENT
DIVISION IS WORKING TO
IMPLEMENT- SIX NEW LEGISLATIVE
MANDATES SEVERAL OF THEM.
RELATED TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND
WHILE WE'RE PROUD TO BE
ADVANCING THE STATE'S
ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS GIVEN THOSE
MANDATES WE DO NOT HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO. THE END OF SUPPLY
CHAIN TRACING THAT WOULD BE
NEEDED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION-
FOR MARCH. THE ODDBALL OF THE
STATE AUDITOR'S WELCOME HOWEVER
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IF THE
AUDIT SCOPE IS JUST REVIEW THE
DATA WE ALREADY HAVE. THE
RESULTS MAY BE UNSATISFYING TO
EVERYONE- WHAT MAY BE THE MOST
BENEFICIAL WOULD BE FOR THE
STATE ORDERED KOBE ON WHETHER
THE STATE IS BUYING GENERAL
CATEGORIES OF COMMODITIES THAT.
MIGHT HAVE COME FROM A FOREST
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TROPICAL
AND EVALUATE WHETHER THE-
PRODUCTS THE STATE IS BUYING
ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE. TO TROPICAL
DEFORESTATION THOSE SPECIFIC
PRODUCTS DURING MY MANY OF THEM
ARE SOURCE FROM THE UNITED
STATES AND CANADA. WITHOUT WE'RE
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR TIME-
NOW IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO ASK
ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANY-
MAYBE- MISTER PARKS- AND ASKING
HIM. PERHAPS- PROVIDE COMMENTS
ON WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE
DEPARTMENT ON THE INFORMATION
THAT. MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE
AVAILABLE TO YOU AS YOU DO THIS
AUDIT. SURE I'LL AS WITH ANY
AUDIT OUR ABILITY TO CONCLUDE ON
AUDIT OBJECTIVES IS REALLY
DEPENDENT ON THE INFORMATION
THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US IN TERMS
OF DOCUMENTATION THAT STATE
AGENCIES- I AM OPEN TO
CONSIDERING TO THE EXTENT
FEASIBLE- YOU KNOW. DOING THE
MORE DETAILED TRACING JUST TO
UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW WHAT'S
INVOLVED IN THE LEVEL OF EFFORT
BY NO MEANS AM I SAYING MY STAFF
IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO A WALL
TO WALL TRACING OF ALL PRODUCTS
COMING INTO THE STATE. BUT JUST
AN INITIAL FEASIBILITY IF ONE
WAS TO DO IT HOW MIGHT ONE GO
ABOUT DOING IT ASSUMING THAT
THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE.
OKAY SO I MAKE SURE THAT THE
AUTHOR- ALSO- AND MYSELF
UNDERSTAND WHAT BUT THAT IS
OBVIOUSLY- THE AUTHOR'S INTENT
IS- IMPORTANT AND SO WHEN I MAKE
SURE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT
GETS GATHERED IS- SATISFACTORY
IN OF INFORMATIVE ENOUGH FOR YOU
AND FOR ALL OF US. SO DOES
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ALL
RIGHT- DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC
COMMENTS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WHO LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS
ITEM. IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME
FORWARD. ANY MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC I DON'T SEE ANY- MISTER
CAR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY
CLOSING STATEMENTS THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR SHARING AND TO THE
AUDITOR I THINK THAT. THE
EXCHANGE DEMONSTRATES THE
COMPLEXITY. OF THE NATURE OF
TRYING TO- GET DATA ON OUR
PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO SUPPLY
CHAINS. AND SO I. AM HOPEFUL
THAT THIS AUDIT WILL SHED LIGHT.
AS TO. THE NATURE OF OUR SUPPLY
CHAIN AND TO THE EXTENT WHERE
COULD YOU BRING A DROP OF
DEFORESTATION AND OR SHED LIGHT
ON. WHAT WE KNOW WHAT ELSE WE
NEED TO DO MORE TO REALLY ENSURE
THAT ARE SUPPLIED KEVIN WE HAVE
DATA ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH
OUR SUPPLY CHAIN I THINK EITHER
WAY IT'S WORTHWHILE. AND WILL
HELP BOTH THE LEGISLATURE AND
ADMINISTRATION HAVE A BETTER
SENSE OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO
ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT
CONTRIBUTING. TO WHAT IS
INTERNATIONAL CRISIS SO WITH
THAT RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
IPHONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS
KARA. APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST
AND PASSION BRINGS FORWARD AT
THE MOMENT WE ARE STILL MISSING
A QUORUM SO WE WILL NOT TAKE A
VOTE ON THIS YET- AND THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR COMING. I STATED WE
STILL DON'T A QUORUM SO I'D
REMIND MEMBERS OF THE JOINT.
COMMITTEE TO COME TO ROOM FOR
THIRTY SEVEN SO WE CAN ESTABLISH
A QUORUM. AND BEGIN OUR- TAKE
ACTION ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. BUT
WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO
ANOTHER ITEM. THAT WILL HEAR THE
SUBCOMMITTEE THIS IS- MR TANG.
WHO'S HERE TO PRESENT ON. HIS
REQUEST AND- WELCOME MR TANG IN
PLACE PROCEED. THANK YOU MUCH
CHAIR ARM SHOULD REQUEST THAT.
THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE AUDIT
COMMITTEE APPROVED A STATE AUDIT
OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION'S.
OVERSIGHT OF THE STATE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY PROGRAM. THE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY PROGRAM IS. USE THE
FUNDS ARE COLLECTED FROM.
INDEPENDENT OPERATING OUR
UTILITIES RATEPAYERS OVER A
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR HOWEVER
EVERY YEAR THERE APPEAR TO BE
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
LEFT OVER. THERE AND NOT BEING
SPENT. AS THE WATCHDOG OVER THIS
PROGRAM I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE
A HARD LOOK AS TO. WHERE THE
MONEY IS BEING SPENT WHAT ENERGY
EFFICIENCY TECHNOLOGIES ARE
BEING PRIORITIZED- IT ALSO ARE
THERE ARE THERE OTHER PROGRAMS
THAT PERHAPS ARE UNAWARE. OF
THIS FUNDING. AS YOU ALL KNOW
ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS ONE OF THE
FASTEST WAYS. WE CAN WE CAN
IMPLEMENT TO REDUCE- OUR CARBON
FOOTPRINT AND REDUCE OUR
GREENHOUSE GASES- IT ALSO HAS
SOME OF THE FASTEST PAY OFF. SO
MONEY NOT SPENT ON ENERGY
EFFICIENCY IS MONEY. THAT REALLY
IS NOT BEING. USED TO MOVE US TO
A CLEANER GREENER FUTURE- IN
TWENTY TWENTY I CHAMPION AB
EIGHT FORTY ONE. WHICH
TRANSFERRED A PORTION OF THESE
PROGRAM FUNDS TO THE ENERGY
COMMISSION TO FACILITATE A
SCHOOL FUNDING TO UPGRADE THEIR
H. FAX SYSTEMS IN RESPONSE TO
COVERT. THIS HAS BEEN HIGHLY
SUCCESSFUL THE MONEY'S BEING
USED- AND WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE
A LOOK TO SEE IF PERHAPS THIS IS
A WAY TO FURTHER USE OF THOSE
FUNDS- BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT
WE ARE ABSOLUTELY- INSURING THAT
ENERGY EFFICIENCY FUNDS ARE
BEING USED AND NOT. SITTING AT
THE PC BUT BUILT OUT IN
CALIFORNIA IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO
REDUCE THE ENERGY IMPACTS
THROUGHOUT OUR STATE SO WHAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT- A COUPLE
QUESTIONS HOW MUCH MONEY'S BEEN
COLLECTED FROM REPAIRS OF LAST
TEN YEARS AND HOW MUCH MONEY'S
BEEN SPENT. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
PROGRAMMATIC AREAS CONTRIBUTE TO
AN EXPENDED ENERGY EFFICIENCY
FUNDS. HOW THE MONEY IS BEING
DISTRIBUTED ACROSS SECTORS. WHAT
THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN DIFFERENT
TYPES OF TECHNOLOGIES AND ALSO
HOW DOES THE CECE'S
ADMINISTRATION OF. THE CALCI
PROGRAM COMPARED TO THE C. P.
UC'S OUR PROCESS FOR ENERGY
EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS. WITHOUT
RISK FOR YOUR ASK FOR EITHER ON
THE OTHER REQUEST. I DO HAVE
ALICE RAINY ON BEHALF OF. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- I'M GONNA JUST
TAKE A PAUSE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE
A QUORUM YOU KNOW HOW CRITICAL
THAT IS- AND I'LL ASK THE
SECRETARY TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ
PRESENT. BOERNER PRESIDENT.
HOOVER PATTERSON. RUBIO HERE.
THE LANCIA. WHAT YOU'RE. WICKS A
SENATOR PLACE WHERE YOU'RE-
COURTESY YOUR- EGGMAN. GONZALEZ
LET. SEYARTO WILK PRESIDENT.
OKAY WE HAVE A QUORUM SO THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- I WOULD LIKE TO
NOW NOTES NOW WE HAVE A QUORUM
THAT AUDIT REQUEST NUMBER TWENTY
TWENTY THREE ONE TWENTY FIVE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
LAND PORTS OF ENTRY IS BEING
HELD- OVER FOR POTENTIALLY R. J.
LACK AUGUST HEARING. AND I'M
SURE ANOTHER STATEMENT ABOUT
THAT IN A SECOND BUT ALSO LIKE
TO NOTE THAT I REQUEST TWENTY
TWENTY THREE ONE TWENTY SIX
REGARDING THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES INSTRUCTOR
AND ADMINISTRATOR SPENDING BY
SOME MEMBER RODRIGUEZ IS NO
LONGER ON OUR CONSENT TODAY AND
IT WILL BE PRESENTED- REGARDING
THE AUDIT NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY
THREE DASH- ONE TWENTY FIVE. I
JUST WANTED TO MAKE A BRIEF
STATEMENT ON THIS BECAUSE WAS-
AN AUDIT REQUEST THAT I HAVE PUT
FORWARD- I WANTED TO SHARE THAT
IN THE ABSENCE OF FUNDING AND
SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE I'M
CONCERNED THAT MANDATES FROM.
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR
ECONOMY IN A LONG TERM GOAL
IMPROVING OUR ENVIRONMENT ALONG
THE BORDER. WE NEED TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUES FACING THE PORTS OF
ENTRY WHETHER THEY ARE LAND OR
SEA IN MY CASE THEY ARE LAND IN
MY DISTRICT OF THE ONLY PORTS OF
ENTRY ACTUALLY IN CALIFORNIA. AS
EACH OF THESE PROVIDE VITAL
SERVICES CALIFORNIA INTO THIS
COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IN OUR
REGION'S ECONOMY. HI REQUESTED
THAT CAR MEET ONCE PER WEEK WITH
THE BORDER TRUCK COMMUNITY. THE
GOAL OF THESE MEETINGS WILL BE
TO CREATE A POSITIVE
COLLABORATIVE WORKING
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
COMMUNITY AND CARP IN THE HOPE
OF CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY IN OUR
BORDER REGION. ADDITIONALLY I'M
REQUESTING INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS TO BE SET ASIDE FOR
THE BORDER REGION INCLUDING THE
AUTHORIZATION OF FUNDS ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE BORDER TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS ON FLEET AND
CHARGING CONCERNED SO. AGAIN
WANT TO THANK- CARB FOR
INITIATING THESE CONVERSATIONS
WITH US AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
THE CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS FROM
NOW- AND HOPEFULLY IN AUGUST-
WE- DON'T HAVE TO HEAR THIS ON
EITHER SIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MISTER CHAIR YES COULD I MAKE A
COMMENT ON THAT ABSOLUTELY. I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT. I
THINK THE ORDINANCE THE
REQUESTED IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS
FLAWED BECAUSE IT ASKED TO
REQUEST. TO ORDER A PROGRAM THAT
HASN'T BEEN CREATED YET. AND I
DON'T SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S
IN THAT. AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE. OF THE FACT THAT
CARP HAS MET WITH YOU. AND IS
OFFERED SOME MONEY FOR BORDER
INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO MEET WITH
TRUCKERS AND I WOULD JUST
ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE AN
AGREEMENT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE
THE AUDIT WILL GO FORWARD. AND
THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. TO MAKE
PROGRESS ON THESE ISSUES AND YOU
HAVE THAT CHANCE NOW SO. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
THAT COMMENT THANK YOU CENTER
LARA PREACHES A LETTER TO REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT AND THANKS FOR
YOUR INTEREST ON THIS AS WELL-
BEFORE. WE STILL HAVE OUR SURE.
THIS RUBIO ARE JUST A COMMON
THOUGHT ON THAT I KNOW IT'S BEEN
MOVED OVER BUT JUST- TO ACTUALLY
IT ADDRESS I DID MEET WITH THEM
AS WELL AND I ASK FOR SPECIFIC
INFORMATION AND- I GOT LINKS. OF
COPIES OF LINKS THAT I CAN GO
LOOK UP THE INFORMATION ON SO
THAT'S ALSO OF CONCERN FOR ME SO
I APPRECIATE- THE COMMENT BUT I
ALSO WANTED TO ALSO- MAKE A
COMMENT THAT I WAS VERY SPECIFIC
IN MY ASKS AND I DID NOT GET.
ANY ANY FUSS YOU KNOW ANY ANY
KIND OF INFORMATION THAT ASK FOR
AGAIN I GOT. A COPY TO A LINK
THAT I CAN GO LOOK UP THE
INFORMATION ON MY OWN SO SOUL
SOUL I AGREE. THAT WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY MEET HOWEVER. WHEN
THEY'RE SPECIFIC AND- BEING
NASTY I WOULD APPRECIATE.
SPECIFIC ANSWERS. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU- I THINK WE STILL HAVE
A- QUORUM THEY WANNA MAKE SURE
WE GET SOME VOTES HONOR- CONSENT
AGENDA- RIGHT. THANK YOU
APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND FOR A CONSENT
AGENDA WHICH- JUST TO BE VERY
PERFECTLY CLEAR. THEY ARE ITEMS
ONE. TWO FOUR FIVE SIX AND SEVEN
. FIVE OH I'M SORRY I BROUGHT
THE WRONG COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND-
ONE TWO THREE FOUR SIX AND SEVEN
ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWENTY SIX
AS AN OUNCE EARLIER. HAS BEEN
REMOVED FROM CONSENT AND WILL BE
HEARD TODAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION-
FROM THE SENATE CORTESE. AND A
SECOND BY AS A MEMBER RUBIO.
PLEASE KALRA. THE MOTION IS TO
APPROVE TODAY'S CONSENT CALENDAR
FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. I
REQUEST NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY
THREE DASH ONE TWO ZERO
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES LICENSED RECOVERY AND
TREATMENT FACILITIES. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER DIXON. AUDIT REQUEST
NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH
ONE TWENTY TWO. CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC SCHOOLS CUSTODIAL
STAFFING AND CLEANLINESS
STANDARDS BY ASSEMBLY. OPERAS
TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO
THREE. COMMUNITY COLLEGE
TRANSFERS BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
OPERAS. TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH
ONE TWO FOUR LOCAL STREETS AND
ROADS PROGRAM STATE AND LOCAL
OVERSIGHT BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GRAYSON. TWENTY TWENTY THREE
DASH ONE TWO EIGHT DEPARTMENT OF
PESTICIDE REGULATION
REGISTRATION AND ASSESSMENT
FUNDING BY SENATOR IN THE LOW.
TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH ONE
THREE ZERO DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITALS SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATOR CONDITIONAL RELEASE
PROGRAM BY SENATOR JONES.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ. ALVAREZ
HI WARNER. BOERNER I HOOVER.
PATTERSON. RUBIO RUBIO AYE
VALENCIA. WOOD. SENATOR BLAKE
SPARE. PLACE WHERE I COULD HAS
HE- CORTES III EGGMAN. GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ I LAYERED. LAYARD I SAY
I TELL. WILK WELCOME BYE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WE WILL NEED- HOLD
ON CALL WE NEED ASSEMBLY MEMBERS
TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM THESE
ITEMS. WE WILL RETURN TO OUR
ITEM- MISTER KING THANK YOU FOR
THAT PRESENTATION YOUR PATIENCE-
APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR PATIENCE
HERE LAST THE- YOUR WITNESS TO
PLEASE TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF THIS
AUDIT REQUEST SURE THANK YOU.
CHARRON MEMBERS ALISON RAINY
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE I.
B. W. HERE IN SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAMS AUDIT
REQUEST OF THE C. P. UC'S
OVERSIGHT OF HIGH ENERGY
EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS WE THINK
THAT THERE WILL BE SOME
IMPORTANT INFORMATION OBTAINED
THROUGH THIS AUDIT TO HELP US
UNDERSTAND HOW THESE RATEPAYER
DOLLARS- ARE BEING SPENT. ON
THESE PROGRAMS AND GUIDE FUTURE
USE OF THESE FUNDS IN A WAY THAT
HELPS GET TO AT THE CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS STEP FORWARD AND ALSO TO
SERVE THE CALIFORNIA WAIT RATE
PAYERS THEMSELVES. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT WILL ASK
OUR STATE HONORED MR GRAMM PARKS
SAFE WORDS I THANK YOU CHAIRMAN
ALVAREZ MR TANG'S REQUEST
BASICALLY HAS A START OFF
LOOKING AT HOW MUCH HAS BEEN
COLLECTED AND SPENT. FOR ENERGY
EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS AND REALLY
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED
HE'S HAVING US LOOK AT A PERIOD
OF TWO THOUSAND TWELVE THROUGH
TWO THOUSAND TWENTY TWO. ASKING
QUESTIONS ON THINGS FOR EXAMPLE
HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT
TARGETING DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
DIFFERENT USER GROUPS- ALSO
WANTING TO GET SOME INFORMATION
ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT TYPES OF
ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS ARE
BEING PRIORITIZED UNDER THE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS AND
TO WHAT EXTENT. THERE'S BEEN A
FOCUS ON NATURAL GAS VERSUS
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES AND WHETHER
OR NOT THE PROGRAMS BEING FUNDED
ENABLE FUEL SUBSTITUTION TO
ELECTRICITY VERSUS THOSE THAT DO
NOT. THE SECOND PART OF THE
AUDIT REALLY FOCUSES ON
UNDERSTANDING HOW CPUC
DETERMINES THE EFFECTIVENESS OF
THESE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
PROGRAMS. FOCUSING ON WHAT'S
THEIR CURRENT METHODOLOGY
HISTORICALLY WHAT HAS THEIR
METHODOLOGY BE BANNED. AND ALSO
TAKING A LOOK AT HOW MIGHT THAT
COST EFFECTIVENESS METHODOLOGY
CHANGE WITH THE PASSAGE OF AB
TWO OH FIVE AND- MOVING INTO
THAT THEY SHIFTED INCOME
GRADUATED FIXED CHARGES WHETHER
NOT THAT HAS AN IMPLICATION ON
HOW. ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS
ARE BEING MEASURED- MISSED A
MEMBER CHIANG IS ALSO ASKING US
TO COMPARE CPUS PROCESS FOR
ADMINISTERING AND OVERSEEING
ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS TO
THOSE. THAT ARE ADMINISTERED BY
THE ENERGY COMMISSION TO SEE IF
THERE ISN'T SOME BEST PRACTICES
OR OTHER THINGS THERE THAT MIGHT
BE. RELATABLE TO WHAT'S GOING ON
OVER AT CPUC. AND FINALLY MEMBER
TANG IS ASKING MY OFFICE TO TAKE
A SELECTION OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY
PROGRAMS TO TRY AND CALCULATE
THE BENEFITS OF THOSE PROGRAMS.
AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING WHY FOR
SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THE MONEY
HASN'T BEEN SPENT AS QUICKLY AS
MANY MAY HAVE THOUGHT. I
ESTIMATE THE AUDIT WILL COST
ROUGHLY THREE THOUSAND HOURS AND
TAKE EIGHT MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
THANK YOU MISTER PARKS PROJECT
THAT TO HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE
CPUC HERE WHO'D LIKE TO PROVIDE
TESTIMONY. WELCOME AND PLEASE
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND PRESENT.
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON SURE
ALVAREZ AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS LIU HUAN TESTIFY IN A
SERVICE THE DEPUTY EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR ENERGY AND CLIMATE
POLICY. AT THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION. THANK YOU
FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE
PROPOSED AUDIT OF THE CPC'S
OVERSIGHT OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY
PROGRAMS. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY
APPRECIATION FOR THE
LEGISLATURE'S ATTENTION AND
INTEREST IN THE BENEFITS FROM
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITY R. I. O.
U. ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS.
AND POTENTIAL BARRIERS TO
PROGRAM SUCCESS. ENERGY
EFFICIENCY HAS BEEN A
CORNERSTONE OF OUR CLEAN ENERGY
POLICY FOR DECADES. IN PART DUE
TO THE SUCCESS OF ENERGY
EFFICIENCY ENERGY DEMAND IN
CALIFORNIA HAS LARGELY REMAINED
FLAT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
DECADES MEANING WE HAVE HAD TO
BUILD FEWER FOSSIL FUEL POWER
PLANTS. AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
AVOID HUNDREDS OF TONNES OF GHG
EMISSIONS IN THE PROCESS. HE
PROGRAMS CONTINUE TO SEE SUCCESS
CALIFORNIA HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN
RANKED FIRST IN THE NATION
INCLUDING AS RECENTLY AS LAST
YEAR BY THE AMERICAN COUNCIL FOR
AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY ENERGY
EFFICIENT ECONOMY. AND THEIR
ANNUAL STATE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
SCORECARD. THIS REPORT RANKS U.
S. STATES ON THEIR POLICY AND
PROGRAM EFFORTS TO SAVE ENERGY
ADVANCE EQUITY AND PURSUE
EFFICIENCY AS- A COST EFFECTIVE
CRITICAL TOOL FOR REDUCING
EMISSIONS AND MEETING STATE
CLEAN ENERGY GOALS. OVER THE
PAST FIVE YEARS UTILITY ENERGY
EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS REPORTED
SAVINGS OF OVER FIVE THOUSAND
ONE HUNDRED GIGAWATT HOURS OF
ELECTRICITY AND A ONE HUNDRED
AND EIGHTY MILLION METRIC FIRMS
OF NATURAL GAS. IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE TO FURTHER OUR
DECARBONISATION OBJECTIVES THE
CPUC ESTABLISHED A NEW E. METRIC
CALLED THE TOTAL SYSTEM BENEFIT.
BY REALIGNING ENERGY EFFICIENCY
GOALS TOWARDS TOTAL SYSTEM
BENEFITS INVESTOR OWNED
UTILITIES ARE INCENTIVIZED TO
IMPLEMENT E. PROGRAMS THAT SAVE
ENERGY AT THE TIMES WHEN THE
GRID AND ENERGY RESOURCES ARE
MOST CONSTRAINED. WHICH IN TURN
PROVIDES THE HIGHEST OPPORTUNITY
TO AVOID GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS FROM THESE PROGRAMS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND I'M
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU I
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. DO WE
HAVE ANY- QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE WE DO HAVE A
MOTION BY MISTER TANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OKAY
THEN WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC
COMMENT IS THERE ANY PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IF THERE IS
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND- STATE
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND YOUR
COMMENT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR NUMBERS TIFFANY FAN ON
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA EFFICIENCY
AND DEMAND FOR COUNSEL AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANYMORE TESTIMONY OUR PUBLIC
COMMENT. OKAY SENA- ALASKA-
MISTER TEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE
A CLOSING. COMMENT AGAIN WITH
THESE ARE VERY CRITICAL OUR
REPAIR DOLLARS THAT. THE PC
APPROPRIATES TO REDUCE THEIR
ENERGY FOOTPRINT IN CALIFORNIA
WE THINK IT'S A CRITICAL PROGRAM
AND WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A-
BEING SPENT EFFICIENTLY SO
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AYE VOTE ON
OUR OTHER REQUEST. THANK YOU
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS ONE
FORWARD- AND YOUR- STEWARDSHIP
OF OUR DOLLARS PUBLIC DOLLARS
THIS IS AGAIN IN LINE WITH THE
WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE- ADAM SEMI
NUMBER SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD SUPPORT OF THIS AND
WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY MISTER
BURNS. AND WE NEED A SECOND. WE
DON'T TWO SECONDS. A THREE. I
THANK YOU MR ROBERT. THANK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MOST TO
APPROVE ARTERY NUMBER TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO SEVEN
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION ENERGY EFFICIENCY
PROGRAMS OVERSIGHT BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER TAKING. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ALL THE REST OF OUR AS AYE
BURNER AYE BURNER AYE HOOVER.
PATTERSON. RUBIO HI RUBIO II
BALENCIAGA. BALENCIAGA I WOULD.
SENATOR BLAKE SPEIR BUT LIKE
SPARE AYE CORTESE. CORTEZ III
EGGMAN. GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I
LAYERED. LAYERED HI SEYARTO.
WILK WILK AYE. IT'S APPROVED-
PASSES THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
WILL HOLD THAT OPEN FOR OTHERS
TO HELP THANK YOU THANK YOU. HM
YES WOULD YOU WANT A MOTION
ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA AS WE
ALREADY- ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT
I'M GOING TO NURSE THAT WE
DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM YES I WAS
GOING TO GO TO THAT HOW WE NEED
TO ALSO ADD A MISTER OLYMPIA TO
THE CONSENT SO. LET'S DO A
MOTION NOW THAT WE HAVE A READY
FOR KALRA FIRST SO MOVE THANK
YOU MISTER LEONARD SECOND BY.
BURNER PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
AS A MEMBER KALRA AS I REQUEST.
MOTION TO APPROVE AUDIT REQUEST
NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH
ONE TWO NINE DEPARTMENT OF
GENERAL SERVICES TROPICAL FORCE
COMMODITIES BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
KALRA. ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ
ALVAREZ I BURNER. BURNER HI
HOOVER. PATTERSON. RUBIO RUBIO
II BALENCIAGA BALENCIAGA I WOULD
. SENATOR BLAKE'S BEAR LAKES AYE
CORTESE CORTEZ III EGGMAN.
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I LAYERED
LAYERED I SEYARTO. WILK WELL I.
THAT MOTION PASSES- SO MISTER
KALRA WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON
OPEN FOR ANY ABSENT MEMBERS TO
VOTE- WE WILL RETURN TO THE
CONSENT AGENDA AND- SURGERY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE RIM
CONTINGENT. MOTION TO APPROVE
ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO
ZERO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES LICENSED RECOVERY AND
TREATMENT FACILITIES ASSEMBLY
MEMBER DIXON. TWENTY TWENTY
THREE DASH ONE TWO TWO
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SCHOOLS
CUSTODIAL STAFFING AND
CLEANLINESS STANDARDS BASED ON
THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO THREE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRANSFERS BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO FOUR
LOCAL STREETS AND ROADS PROGRAM
STATE AND LOCAL OVERSIGHT BY
FAMILY MEMBER GRAYSON. TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO EIGHT
DEPARTMENT OF PESTICIDE
REGULATION REGISTRATION AND
ASSESSMENT FUNDING BY SENATOR DE
LO TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH ONE
THREE ZERO DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITALS SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATOR CONDITIONAL RELEASE
PROGRAM BY SENATOR JONES
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HOOVER. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER PATTERSON. VALENCIA
VALENCIA HI SENATOR EGGMAN. AND
SENATOR SEYARTO. THE CONSENT
CALENDAR HAS BEEN APPROVED- BUT
WE WILL HOLD THAT FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS FOR THEM TO VOTE SO WITH
THAT WE WILL MOVE TO OUR FINAL
ITEM THAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY IN
THIS IS ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ REQUEST. FOR AN AUDIT-
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY THREE
DASH ONE TWENTY SIX SUMMER
RODRIGUEZ WELCOME AND PLEASE
COME FORWARD AND IF YOU HAVE ANY
TESTIMONY- OUR WITNESSES WITH
YOU THEY'RE WELCOME TO JOIN AS
WELL. I'M PROCEED AS SOON AS
YOU'RE READY. GOOD AFTERNOON MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MY OTHER
REQUESTS OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE AND TEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT REGARDING TWO RELATED
ISSUES. ONE DISTRICT
ADMINISTRATION EXPENDITURES AND
COMPENSATION AND TO DISTRICT
COMPLIANCE WITH THE 50% SPENDING
LAW. FIRST THE SOLDER REQUEST
WILL EXAMINE HOW THE GROWTH IN
ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS HAVE
CONTRIBUTED OR FAILED TO
CONTRIBUTE TO ACADEMIC
SUCCESSES. A STUDENT ROMAN HAS
DECLINED THE FACULTY AND SUPPORT
STAFF POSITIONS HAVE REMAINED
STAGNANT EVIDENCE REVEALS AN
INCREASE IN ADMINISTRATORS FOR
EXAMPLE BETWEEN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN. AND TWENTY TWENTY TO
THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE REPORTED
AN 18% GROWTH AND FOR TIME
MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION
POSITION DURING A TIME WHEN
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE A 16%
DECREASE IN STUDENT ENROLLMENT.
BETWEEN TWENTY TWELVE AND TWENTY
TWENTY TWO THERE WAS REPORTED
45% GROWTH IN ADMINISTRATORS
DESPITE A 20% DECLINE IN STUDENT
ENROLLMENT. DAUGHTER REQUESTED
ALSO DETERMINE IF COMMITTEE
COLLEGE DISTRICTS ARE COMPLIANT
WITH STATE LAW WHICH REQUIRES
HALF OF THE DISTRICTS SPENCE'S
TO BE SPENT ON INSTRUCTORS
SALARIES. A SIMILAR STATE AUDIT
CONDUCTED IN TWO THOUSAND
CONCLUDED THAT SPENDING FOR SIX
OF THE TEN AUDIT DISTRICTS FELL
BELOW THE 50% THRESHOLD. THIS
HAPPENED DESPITE THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE CLAIM THAT
ALL OF THE COMMITTEE COLLEGES
DISTRICTS WERE COMPLIANT. TWENTY
YEARS LATER IS I BELIEVE IT'S
TIME TO FOLLOW UP TO ENSURE THAT
ADMITTED THE AUDITOR'S
RECOMMENDATION OR IMPLEMENT AND
IF DISTRICTS ARE COMPLIANT WITH
EXISTING LAW. BY EXAMINING THESE
TWO ISSUES THE LEGISLATURE CAN
ENSURE FUNDING IS BEING SPENT IN
A MANNER THAT CONTRIBUTES TO
ACADEMIC SUCCESSES FOR COMMITTEE
COLLEGE STUDENTS. WHILE I DO
UNDERSTAND THE RESULTS OF AN
APPROVE AUDIT DID NOT OCCUR
UNDER THE CURRENT UNDER THE
MINISTRATION OF THE NEWLY
APPOINTED CHANCELLOR. I BELIEVE
AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW CAN HELP
THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. TO
IDENTIFY. AREAS WHERE
IMPROVEMENTS MAY BE NEEDED. WITH
ME TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY
ANNOUNCER ANY QUESTIONS AS DAVID
HOW. LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE WITH
THE CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE COLLEGE
INDEPENDENCE THANK YOU. YOUR
AVERAGE SERVITE VICE CHAIR
PLAYED FAIR- THANK YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY I WANTED TO ALSO
THINK THE G. LIKE CONSULTANTS
FOR THEIR- ASSISTANCE AND
COUNSEL IN DEVELOPING THE AUDIT
. WE BEGIN HEARING ANECDOTAL.
REPORTS FROM CAMPUSES OF
ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS BEING
HIRED FOR. RESPONSIBILITIES
THAT. AT LEAST FACULTY WERE
UNAWARE TO. FIGURE OUT WHY WHY
THESE POSITIONS WERE. WERE BEING
ENACTED. AS HE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MENTIONED- WE WENT BACK AND
LOOKED AT CHANTERS OFFICE DATA
IN OVER TEN YEAR PERIOD EVEN
THOUGH THERE WAS A CLOSE TO A
22% DROP IN FULL TIME STUDENT
ENROLLMENT. THERE WAS A 45%
INCREASE IN ADMINISTRATIVE FULL
FULL TIME POSITIONS IN THE AUDIT
WILL HELP US DETERMINE IF THAT
WAS IF THAT WAS NECESSARY. ON
THE COMPENSATION WE WERE
SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT THE
AVERAGE SALARY FOR A
SUPERINTENDENT- PRESENT AT THE
DISTRICT IS TO A LITTLE OVER TWO
HUNDRED EIGHTY FOUR THOUSAND
DOLLARS. THE HIGHEST PAID
SUPERINTENDENT PRESIDENT EARNS
OVER THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX
THOUSAND DOLLARS HAS NOT EVEN
THE LARGEST DISTRICT. BUT WHAT
TROUBLED ME AS A FORMER ADVOCATE
FOR THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION DEALING WITH THE
STATE UNIVERSITIES. IT SEEMS
THAT THE COMMUNICABLE EDGES HAVE
NOW ADOPTED- THE MODEL OF THAT
SALARY IS NOT ENOUGH. LET'S ADD
A CAR ALLOWANCE LET'S ADD A
HOUSING ALLOWANCE IN SOME
INSTANCES LET'S ADD A MONTHLY
EXPENSE ACCOUNT. ON ONE DISTRICT
IN PARTICULAR- THAT INCREASE
THEIR COMPENSATION BY OVER
NINETY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS A
YEAR AND SO WE FELT THIS WAS
SOMETHING THE AUDITOR- SHOULD
LOOK AT. IN REGARDS A 50% LAW
THIS IS EXISTING LAW. AS
MENTIONED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ- THIS WAS LOOKED AT IN
TWO THOUSAND- THERE WAS A CLAIM
THAT ALL DISCOVERING COMPLIANCE
THE AUDITOR FOUND THAT SIX OUT
OF TEN WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
THERE WERE ALSO A SERIES OF
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE. THAT
WE DON'T KNOW OR BE IF THEY'VE
BEEN ADHERED TO AND IN THE
TWENTY YEARS SINCE SENATOR
HOPING THE AUDITOR WILL LOOK AT
THAT. THE 50% WHAT WAS INTENDED
TO- ENACTED IN NINETEEN SIXTY
ONE TO REDUCE CLASS SIZE.
INCREASE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF
CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION AND ALSO
HELP WITH A STUDENT ACADEMIC
OUTCOMES AND WE THINK THAT HAS
BEEN SUCCESSFUL DOING THAT- HERE
TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS-
THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. ALL GIVEN UP TO ENSURE STATE
AUDITOR MR GRANT PARKS TO
PROVIDE SOME ANALYSIS THANK YOU
CHAIRMAN ALVAREZ. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER RODRIGUEZ IS- REQUESTING
AN AUDIT OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT COMPLIANCE WITH THE
FIFTY PERCENT- SPENDING LAW- THE
AUDIT REQUEST HAS OUR OFFICE
LOOK AT A SELECTION OF TEN
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS TO
ASSESS THEIR COMPLIANCE. OVER
THE PAST FIVE BUT UP TO TEN
YEARS IF FEASIBLE. THIS WILL
ENTAIL REVIEWING THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ACCOUNTING RECORDS TO
UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CALCULATED
IN DETERMINE COMPLIANCE WHILE
PERFORMING OUR OWN CALCULATIONS.
WE MENTIONED EARLIER DURING AT
THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD AN
EARLIER AUDIT IN TWO THOUSAND
WHERE WE NOTED PROBLEMS. DURING
OUR REVIEW WILL BE LOOKING OUT
FOR THE SAME KIND OF ERRORS THAT
WE NOTED IN THAT REPORT AMONG
THEM BEING THINGS LIKE. A
COMMUNITY COLLEGES CLAIMING
CREDIT FOR SPENDING ON FACULTY
WHO WEREN'T PROVIDING
INSTRUCTION SO. THERE ARE A
VARIETY OF ERRORS THAT WERE
NOTED IN THAT PRIOR AUDIT REPORT
THAT OUR AUDIT STAFF WILL BE
LOOKING FOR THIS TIME IS REVIEW
THAT SELECTION OF TEN COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. WILL ALSO BE TAKING A
LOOK AT THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE
IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S PROVIDING
LEADERSHIP AND OVERSIGHT TO THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES- TO WHAT
EXTENT FOR EXAMPLE IS THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE APPROVING
EXEMPTIONS TO THE 50% RULE
WHAT'S THE BASIS FOR IT WHAT'S
THE METHODOLOGY. AND ALSO MORE
IMPORTANTLY WHAT STEPS HAS THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TAKEN TO
INSURE CAMPUSES ADDRESS THEIR
LACK OF SPENDING ON IN CLASS
INSTRUCTION IF THAT IS IN FACT
WHAT'S HAPPENING- AND THEN ALSO
TAKING A LOOK AS- OTHERS HAVE
MENTIONED BEFORE. FOLLOWING UP
ON THE PRIOR RECOMMENDATIONS OF
OUR AUDIT REPORT FROM TWO
THOUSAND TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED
SINCE THEN. AND THEN FINALLY IN
TERMS OF SPENDING ON
ADMINISTRATORS AND PRESIDENTS
THE AUDIT REQUEST HAS US
IDENTIFY CHANGES TO F. T. E.'S
TOTAL COMPENSATION. AND THE
OPERATING BUDGETS FOR
ADMINISTRATORS AND EXECUTIVES
OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS TO
UNDERSTAND TO WHAT EXTENT DOES
HAVE INCREASED. AND UNDERSTAND
HOW DISTRICTS HAVE JUSTIFIED
THOSE INCREASES RELATIVE TO. THE
EDUCATION PROVIDES TO STUDENTS.
I ESTIMATE THIS AUDIT WILL COST
ROUGHLY THREE THOUSAND HOURS AND
I'LL BE PUTTING MORE STAFF ON IT
SO I'M ANTICIPATING SIX MONTHS
TO COMPLETE IT. THANK YOU MISS
PARKS. THAT OF DO WE HAVE THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE. CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE PRESENT. WELCOME GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
I'M DAVID O'BRIEN VICE
CHANCELLOR FOR GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS FOR THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE. I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR GIVING US AN
OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THIS
ISSUE AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO
THE SUCCESS OF CALIFORNIA'S ONE
POINT EIGHT MILLION COMMUNITY
COLLEGE STUDENTS. TODAY I AM
HERE TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERN THAT
THE PROPOSED AUDIT AS REQUESTED
TAKES TOO NARROW VISION OF
STUDENT SUCCESS AND THE FACTORS
THAT HELP STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR
DREAMS AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE
AND BEYOND. AND LET ME BE CLEAR
STARTING OFF THAT FACULTY ARE
ABSOLUTELY A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF
STUDENT SUCCESS IN THE STUDENT
JOURNEY IN THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND WE GET
THE CHANCES OFFICE ARE GRATEFUL
FOR THE PARTNERSHIP WE ENJOY
WITH OUR STATEWIDE FACULTY
ASSOCIATIONS. HOWEVER OUR
CONCERN IS THAT A NARROW FOCUS
ON WHETHER COLLEGES ARE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THE NINETEEN
SIXTY ONE LAW REQUIRING THAT 50%
OR MORE OF ALL EXPENDITURES BE
ALLOCATED A FACULTY SALARY
BENEFITS. DOES NOT NECESSARILY
TELLS WHETHER COLLEGES ARE DOING
ENOUGH TO ENSURE STUDENTS
SUCCEED IF I MAY I'D LIKE TO
PROVIDE A FEW EXAMPLES OF
POSITIONS AND PROGRAMS. THAT ARE
COLLEGES OFFER MOST OF WHICH
HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED BY
LEGISLATION OR BUDGET ACTION OF
THE LEGISLATURE. THAT HAVE A
CLEAR IMPACT ON STUDENT SUCCESS
BUT ARE NOT COUNTED AS
INSTRUCTIONAL SPENDING UNDER THE
50% LAW. ONE OF WHICH BEING
BASIC NEEDS COORDINATORS IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THIS
LEGISLATURE TOOK A
GROUNDBREAKING STEP. MAY
REQUIRING EVERY COMMUNITY
COLLEGE TO IDENTIFY A SINGLE ON
CAMPUS POSITION. TO COORDINATE
THE DELIVERY OF BASIC NEEDS
SERVICES. DESIGNED TO ALLEVIATE
FACTORS SUCH AS FOOD INSECURITY
AND HOUSING AND SECURITY WHICH
WE KNOW DISPROPORTIONATELY
AFFECT COMMUNITY COLLEGE
STUDENTS. AND FOR WHICH THE
RESEARCH IS CLEAR THAT A STUDENT
WHO IS SUFFERING FROM FOOD
INSECURITY- HOUSING AND
SECURITY. IS LESS LIKELY TO
SUCCEED ACADEMICALLY YET THAT
FUNDING. THAT THE LEGISLATURE
PROVIDED FOR BASIC NEEDS CENTERS
AND COORDINATORS DOES NOT COUNT
AS INSTRUCTIONAL. SPENDING UNDER
THE 50% LAW. I ALSO CALL YOUR TO
THE DISABLED STUDENTS PROGRAMS
AND SERVICES PROGRAM WHICH
PROVIDES INTERPRETER READER
TRANSCRIPTION. SPEECH AND NOTE
TAKER SERVICES. DIAGNOSTIC
ASSESSMENT AND DISABILITY
RELATED COUNSELING ADVISING TO
OVER ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY
THOUSAND STUDENTS WITH
DISABILITIES STRUCK THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. THESE
SERVICES IN THE STAFFORD
MINISTER THAN TYPICALLY DO NOT
COUNT AS INSTRUCTIONAL SPENDING
UNDER THE 50% LAW. IN ADDITION
TO DREAMER RESOURCE LIAISONS
WHICH PROVIDES CRITICAL SUPPORT
TO UNDOCUMENTED STUDENTS
VETERANS RESOURCE CENTERS THE
NEXT STEP PROGRAM SERVING
CURRENT FORMER FOSTER YOUTH. ALL
THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF PROGRAMS
AND SERVICES. THE LEGISLATURE-
WE ARE PROUD TO SEE HAS INVESTED
IN THE GENERALLY DO NOT COUNT
TOWARDS INSTRUCTIONAL SPENDING
OUT OF THE 50% LAW. AND YET I
DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD DENY
THAT THESE PROGRAMS CONTRIBUTE
TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR STUDENTS.
SO THESE EXAMPLES I HOPE
DEMONSTRATE THE QUESTION OF WHAT
CONTRIBUTES TO THE SUCCESS OF
COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS. IS
NOT A BLACK OR WHITE SIMPLE YES
OR NO QUESTION IT DESERVES TO BE
ADDRESSED WITH THE NEW WANTS IN
AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE
DEMOGRAPHICS OF CALIFORNIA OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND OUR
STUDENTS AND FACULTY. HAVE
CHANGED OVER THE YEARS WE HOPE
THAT ANY AUDIT SEEKING TO
UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION
BETWEEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
EXPENDITURES AND THE SUCCESS OF
OUR STUDENTS. TAKES INTO ACCOUNT
THESE COMPLEX ISSUES AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF THE AUDIT
SPONSORS AND IF APPROVED. THE
STATE AUDITOR'S TO ADDRESS THE
QUESTION OF HOW ALL ASPECTS. OF
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
ARE SERVING OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE
NO MATTER WHAT PERCENTAGE OF
COMMUNITY COLLEGES EXPENSIVE
FACULTY SALARY BENEFITS. OUR
EXPECTATION IS THAT 1100% OF
DOLLARS SPENT AS WELL AS 1100%
OF FACULTY ADMINISTRATORS STAFF.
DISTRICT AND SYSTEM OFFICE
LEADERS LIKE MYSELF ARE WORKING
TOWARDS A GOAL STUDENT SUCCESS A
100% OF THE TIME. I'M HAPPY TO
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
VICE CHAIR BLAKE SPEIR WILL BE
FIRST IN. YES THANK YOU- THANK
YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION OF
THANK YOU- AS WELL FOR THE
TESTIMONY. I JUST I WANTED. TO
SUPPORT THE IDEA OF EXPANDING
THIS I AUDIT. SO IT WOULD- IT
WOULD LOOK AT THIS CATEGORY THAT
THAT THE TESTIMONY WAS FOCUSED
UPON WHICH HAS TO DO WITH. I
THINK OF IT REALLY AS A CATEGORY
OF SAFETY NET EXPENDITURES. SO
THERE ARE THINGS LIKE FOOD
HOUSING MENTAL HEALTH SHOWERS
EDUCATIONAL COUNSELING. THE
BASIC NEEDS THAT HE REFERRED TO
DISABLED SERVICES FOSTER
SERVICES. BECAUSE I THINK THAT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT.
THAT THIS LAW THIS 50% LAW USED
TO APPLY TO K. THROUGH TWELVE
SCHOOLS AS WELL AS OTHER PUBLIC
HIGHER EDUCATION. AND I DON'T I
DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS
ELIMINATED FOR THOSE OTHER TWO
CATEGORIES. OR WHY- BUT I DO
KNOW THAT WE HAVE EXPANDED THE
EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT SCHOOLS AT
ALL LEVELS DO YOU. AND THE
SOCIAL SAFETY NET SERVICES THAT
ARE BEING PROVIDED BY SCHOOLS AT
ALL LEVELS. ARE REALLY FILLING
IN THE GAPS FOR OUR SOCIETY
MEMBERS WHO NEED MORE HELP- SO
THERE USED TO BE A NARROWER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SCHOOLS
WOULD DO- AND I THINK THIS IS
TRUE OF MANY AREAS YOU KNOW YOU
CAN LOOK AT LAW ENFORCEMENT. AS
WELL. AREAS WHERE THEY'RE DOING
A LOT MORE RELATED TO
HOMELESSNESS AND THINGS AND THEN
THEY EVER ANTICIPATED- SO I
WOULD LIKE TO. SUGGEST THAT IN
SUPPORT OF WHAT THE SPEAKER WAS
SAYING THAT WE EXPAND THE AUDIT
AND THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AS A
SPECIFIC CATEGORY. I AND ALSO
JUST STATE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE
EVALUATING- WHETHER THERE'S AN
EFFICIENT DELIVERY OF SERVICES
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T
HAVE. ADMIN ADMIN COSTS
ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGERIAL COSTS
THAT ARE REDUNDANT OR PADDING OR
NOT ADDING VALUE SO MANAGERS OF
MANAGERS OF MANAGERS HAVING VERY
MANY LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ON TOP
OF GOVERNMENT. I IS WASTEFUL I
BELIEVE AND CAN BE UNNECESSARY
AND DOES NOT ADD VALUE TO THE
STUDENTS EXPERIENCE AND ALSO FOR
THE TAXPAYER WHOSE FUNDING OF
THE SCHOOL EXPERIENCE. SO IT'S I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
ARE DOING THIS AUDIT AND LOOKING
INTO IT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT
WERE DISCUSSED AT THE BEGINNING.
RELATED TO SALARIES AND OVERALL
COMPENSATION SHOULD BE. CLEAR I
DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD JUDGE ON
WHY IT IS THE OR WRONG TO BE. A
WE NEED THE- AND NOW. OF WHAT IS
HOW SO THAT WE CAN ABOUT. IT AB
BUT SO I WOULD LIKE TO FOR THAT
. OF THE AYE TO IN THIS CASE. OF
SAY NET TYPE X. AND I LEAVE TO
THE AUDITOR TO A FINE THIS THE
WAY THE- THAT. AND SHOP WOULD
FINE TO BE THE USEFUL. BUT JUST
. THIS REALLY ISN'T LIKE
SHOWERS- BUT BUT BUT IS ALSO
NOT- REDUNDANT MANAGERIAL
PADDING AND REDUNDANT GOVERNMENT
GOVERNMENT SERVICES ARE GOT
GOVERNMENT- POSITIONS. SO THAT
WOULD BE MY HOPE I DON'T KNOW
IF. YOU THINK I SHOULD MAKE THAT
INTO A MOTION OR IF THE AUDITOR
WANTS TO RESPOND TO IT I KNOW
WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES AT A
PREVIOUSLY OF THIS COMMITTEE
JUST ON THE FLY WHERE THE
AUDITOR CAN ACCEPT SUGGESTIONS
ABOUT. HOW THE AUDIT IS BEING
BEING CONCEIVED I'M GOING TO ASK
THAT THE STATE AUDITOR RESPOND
TO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION- YOU'RE RIGHT. MINOR
CHANGES THAT DON'T SUBSTANTIALLY
AFFECT THE AUDIT REQUESTS CAN BE
MADE AND INCORPORATED. BUT I
BELIEVE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ALSO
HAS ITS OWN RULES IN TERMS OF IF
SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO AUDIT
REQUESTS ARE MADE. HOW THAT
PROCESS WORKS HOW THOSE RULES
MIGHT BE SUSPENDED- WHEN WE WERE
WORKING WITH THE REQUEST YEARS
OFFICE WE WERE DRAFTING THIS
FROM THE STANDPOINT OF REALLY
TRYING TO EVALUATE COMPLIANCE.
WITH THE 50% LOCKERS THAT WAS
OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE
REQUEST YOUR WAS AFTER. AND THEN
SECONDLY UNDERSTANDING THE
ADMINISTRATIVE AND EXECUTIVE
SALARIES F. T. E. IS AND HOW
THOSE AMOUNTS HAVE CHANGED OVER
TIME- THIS ADDITIONAL SCOPE ITEM
FOCUSING ON SAFETY NET SPENDING
WHETHER IT'S ON FOOD HOUSING.
OTHER ITEMS ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE
VALUABLE- I WOULD DEFER TO THE
CHAIR IN TERMS OF HOW THE AUDIT
COMMITTEE- WORKS ITS OWN RULES
IN TERMS OF- WHAT'S PERMISSIBLE
BUT I WOULD VIEW THIS AS A- AS
AN ADDITIONAL SCOPE ITEM THAT
WOULD ADD COST TO THE AUDIT THAT
WASN'T CONTEMPLATED IN OUR-
ORIGINAL ANALYSIS. IS A PRICE
CLARITY YOU EITHER WAY A MINUTE
WELL I HAVE SOME OF THE BUT I
WOULD DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO
MAKE THEIR COMMENTS TO SEE WHAT
THE OTHER THOUGHTS ARE. THANK
YOU DOES THE AUTHOR ANY COMMENTS
FIRST BEFORE WE GOT ANOTHER I
DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH THE
SPONSORS OKAY I'M I'M OPEN TO
ANYTHING. BUT OKAY WE'LL SEE HOW
THIS TURNS THANK YOU. MISTER
WELL I WANNA- HE ABOUT AHMANSON
ARE PLAY FOR SAID- SINCE THE
SIXTY ONE. ON OUR ENTIRE. AND
PUBLIC EDUCATION WHETHER IT'S A
UC OR CSU RKC TWELVE A COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WE HAVE DRASTICALLY
EXPANDED THE SCOPE. ON WHAT
THEIR FUNCTION IS IN OUR SOCIETY
AND I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF THAT
WANNA ASSUME THIS IS WHAT THE
SENATOR. MIGHT HAVE SUGGESTED IS
YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ITEM TEN IN
YOUR SCOPE. THIS IS OTHER.
ISSUES SIGNIFICANT TO THE AUDIT.
I AND ICUS COULD IMAGINE CAN
HAVE SPUR. UNDER IDA TEN. COSTS
ASSOCIATED STUDENT SUPPORT LIKE.
ADDRESSING FOOD INSECURITY
EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY HOUSING-
AND ANYTHING RELATED DIRECTLY TO
THE LEGISLATION WE HAVE PASSED.
TO REALLY. PROVIDE A SOCIAL
SAFETY NET THAT SENATOR WAS
TALKING ABOUT. COULD THAT BE
CURRENT DONE UNDER THE SCOPE OF
ITEM TEN AND THAT IS BE BROKEN
OUT THAT WAY. BECAUSE YOU'RE TO
COLLECT THAT INFORMATION ANYWAY
. CORRECT THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION I COULD SEE HOW YOU
WOULD READ IT THAT WAY I THINK
YOU KNOW TRADITIONALLY I DON'T
WANT TO SPEAK FOR PRIOR
ADMINISTRATIONS I'VE BEEN. THE
STATE AUDITOR FOR A FEW MONTHS
NOW. I AM I AM SENSITIVE TO
STEPPING BEYOND THE BOUNDS OF
WHAT I REQUEST IS- YOU'RE RIGHT
WE DO ADD THAT CATCH ALL
OBJECTIVE AT THE END OF OUR
AUDIT REQUEST IN CASE THERE ARE
OTHER ISSUES THAT. PERTAIN TO
THE PRIOR OBJECTIVES ABOVE THAT
YOU KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE
SOMETHING IMPORTANT ON THE TABLE
BECAUSE IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY
ASKED FOR- ASK FOR IN THE
ORIGINAL OBJECTIVES BUT- I'M
JUST POINTING OUT FOR THE GROUP
YEP. I THINK WHEN YOU START
ADDING- OBJECTIVES THAT. GO IT
IN MY OPINION BEYOND. YOU KNOW
HOW WE ORIGINALLY SCOPED THIS
AUDIT AND IT CAN BE DONE- YOU
YOU HAVE YOUR COMMITTEE RULES IN
TERMS OF- YOU KNOW WHAT THE
PROCESS IS FOR AMENDING AUDIT
REQUESTS AND WHAT THAT PROCESS
ENTAILS- WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY
TO DO WHATEVER THIS COMMITTEE.
AUTHORIZES AND DIRECTS US TO DO-
I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT THIS
WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T
CONTEMPLATED WHEN WE WERE
WORKING WITH THE REQUESTED IS
OFFICE AND IT WASN'T SOMETHING
WE WERE CONTEMPLATING. WHEN WE
DRAFTED THE AUDIT ANALYSIS AND I
JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR FOR THAT
FOR MEMBERS. AS YOU'RE
CONTEMPLATING NOT HERE. SO JUST
I WANT TO CLARIFY WITH MINT OUR
STATE AUDITOR IS SAYING IN TERMS
OF- WHAT COMES BEFORE THIS
COMMITTEE AND THE ADOPTED RULES
WHICH WE- VOTED ON AT THEIR
FIRST MEETING- REGARDING HONOR
REQUEST WILL NUMBER FOURTEEN
SAYS THAT AT THE TIME OF THE
HEARING. AND NOT A REQUEST MAY
ONLY BE AMENDED IF THE AMENDMENT
IS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THE
FEASIBILITY. SCOPE OR COST OF
THE PROPOSED AUDIT. SO THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT LINE THAT ASK THE-
AUDITOR I WOULD ASSUME. A WE ARE
ADDING ANYTHING- THIS WILL
INCREASE THE COST OF THE
PROPOSED AUDIT SO THAT- MEANS
EGGMAN MAKE SURE THAT IS THAT
CORRECT. WHAT WHAT ALL OF THIS
IS PRELIMINARY YOU KNOW
RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE DRAFTEES
AUDIT ANALYSES WE DO SO YOU KNOW
THEIR CONFIDENTIAL WE DON'T TALK
TO THE- ODDITIES TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT RECORDS ARE AVAILABLE OR
THE TIME AND EFFORT INVOLVED TO
GET THEM. OR ANALYZE THEM- IT'S
ESSENTIALLY OUR BEST GUESS- BUT
HAVING SAID ALL THAT AGAIN IF
IT'S THE COMMITTEE'S DIRECTION
THAT. YOU YOU WANT US TO DO THIS
ADDITIONAL WORK AND I. I DO I
DON'T HAVE WITH A 100% CLARITY
WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF COST
OR TIME- I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT
OUT THERE AGAIN AND THE OTHER
THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT-
IF SOMEONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR AN AUDIT.
YET HI I HAVE THERE IS AN
EXCHANGE THAT OCCURS BETWEEN THE
AUTHOR OF THE REPORT PERSON
REQUESTING AND YOUR OFFICE TO
MAKE SURE THAT- OBJECTIVES AND-
IN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IS
DEFINED. DO YOU FEEL FROM WHAT
YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR AND WE HAVE
MORE PEOPLE SO BEFORE WE EVEN
MAKE A DECISION HERE WE HAVE
OTHER MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK.
THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT KIND
OF DIRECTION OR IS IT STILL ARE
YOU STILL UNSURE OF WHAT
ADDITIONAL DIRECTION- HAS BEEN
REQUESTED. NO I THINK I
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMITTEES
ASKING FOR I'M JUST TRYING TO BE
CLEAR IN TERMS OF ARTICULATING
WHAT IT WAS WHEN WE WERE
DEVELOPING THE AUDIT ANALYSIS
AND IT DID NOT INCLUDE. THIS AND
I'M GONNA ASK OUR AUTHOR BECAUSE
WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL SINCE WE
WILL NOT BE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION AT ALL IF IT
WEREN'T. FOR HIS INSIGHT INTO
THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. TO THINK
ABOUT THE COMMERCENTRE MEANS AND
I IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO HEAR
YOUR RESPONSE IF YOU WANT TO
GIVE IT NOW OR THERE'S MORE
MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK YOU
KNOW WHAT. OKAY GO AHEAD
WHATEVER IS EASIER BUT YOU KNOW
I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS AND
EVERYTHING OKAY WORK WITH WITH
OUR SPONSORS WANT TO SEE WHAT WE
CAN CAN DO BASED ON. THIS NEW
INFORMATION CRAP RIGHT AND THEN
I'LL PROBABLY COME TO YOU TO
PROVIDE SOME TESTIMONY. WELL
LET'S HEAR FROM OTHERS BEFORE
YOU DO THAT- SENATOR LAYER THAN
CENTER WILL. I WAS GOING TO-
AGREE WITH THE CA. OF SENATOR
SPEIR. AND ACTUALLY- OFFER
ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT SHE DIDN'T
LIST THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF STATE
LEGISLATION. THAT AND SHE DIDN'T
LIST HEALTH CARE SERVICES. AND
WHEN I WAS IN THE ASSEMBLY. MMHM
AT THE TIME AND THIS IS A
TRIBUTE TO THE FACT THAT THINGS
CHANGE OVER TIME. SO ORIGINALLY
THERE WAS A LAW THAT SAID YOU
COULD NOT. CHARGE STUDENTS ON
STUDENT AID SPECIAL FEES THAT
THEY WERE EXEMPT FROM SPECIAL
FEES. AND SO THEY WERE EXEMPT
FROM THE HEALTH CARE FEE. AND
THEN WE WERE SO SUCCESSFUL
STUDENT EIGHT DEAD AT SOME
COLLEGES IT WENT FROM TEN
PERCENT. 42% SO COLLEGES WERE
CUTTING HEALTHCARE. BECAUSE THEY
COULDN'T GET IT IN THE HEALTH
CARE THEY WERE DELIVERING WAS
PRIMARILY TO THE STUDENTS THAT
WERE EXEMPTED FROM THE FEES
BECAUSE THEY WERE LOW INCOME.
AND REALLY NEEDED TO HEALTH
CARE. SO WHY DID A BILL. THAT
ENDED UP GETTING ENACTED AFTER A
LOT OF CONTROVERSY. THAT ALLOWS
THE OPTIONAL. OF LEVYING OF THE
FEES ON PEOPLE ON STYLE
FINANCIAL AID FOR HEALTHCARE. AS
A RESULT OF THAT. THERE'S MORE
POSITIONS IN HEALTH CARE. AND SO
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BALANCE
OF POSITIONS. IT'S LIKE THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT AS A RESULT OF
LEGISLATIVE ACTION. AFFECTED THE
BALANCE OF POSITIONS AND SO THE
THING ABOUT IT IS I HAVE A SENSE
THAT WERE CAUGHT IN A PROCEDURAL
THING WE'RE BASICALLY. I'M
SENSING PEOPLE WHEN I WAS A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRUSTEE- AND I
WAS TWENTY YEARS AGO TO COME TO
THE LEGISLATURE. I NEVER HEARD
ABOUT HOUSING AND SECURITY AND
NOW I ASK. BY NOW I ASK THAT ALL
MY CAMPUSES AND IT'S BETWEEN ONE
AND 4% OF THE STUDENT BODY IS ON
THE HOUSE. AND WE ARE ASKING THE
CAMPUSES TO HAVE POSITIONS AND
PROGRAMS TO DEAL WITH IT. AND SO
THIS IS A VERY VERY RELEVANT
THING. AND I THINK OUR- IS
PROCEDURAL WAY. HOW CAN WE WORK
WITH THE REQUESTER AND THE
AUDITOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
ACCOMMODATE THAT WITHIN OUR
RULES THAT TO ME IS NOW OUR
QUESTION BECAUSE I'M SENSING
THAT. PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT THE
PROPOSAL PROPOSERS OPEN TO IT
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD
HAVE TO BE PART OF THIS FOR IT
TO HAVE SOME VALIDITY GOING FOR.
THANK YOU MR LAYERED MR A SORRY
MR WORKS AT FIRST AND THEN WE'RE
GOING TO SEE ART. THEN YOU
MISTER CHAIR SPENT SIX AND A
HALF YEARS THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
TRUSTEE BEFORE COMING TO THE
LEGISLATURE. YES I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE FOR
BECAUSE HE IT IS IMPORTANT
ISSUE. I SHARE THE FRUSTRATION
THAT THIS IS THE ONLY- SEGMENT
OF HIGHER EDUCATION THAT HAS TO
COMPLY WITH THIS AGAIN IS
BECAUSE IT WAS SPAWNED OUT OF
THE K. TWELVE. DISTRICT I
PERSONALLY THINK THIS. IS
PROBABLY NOT EVEN RELEVANT
ANYMORE BECAUSE OF ALL THE
CHALLENGES THAT THE STUDENTS
SPACE ACTUALLY DID A BILL TEN
YEARS AGO. I HAD A LEGISLATIVE
VICTORY IN THIS COMMITTEE AND
THEN I GOT KILLED IN
APPROPRIATIONS. TO TIP TIP TO
BROADEN THE 50% RULE TO INCLUDE
SOME OF THESE ARE THINGS YOU
KNOW COUNSELORS LIBRARIANS I
THINK SINCE TEN YEARS AGO IT
SHOULD IT SHOULD BE BROADER. SO
I HOPE YOU WOULD BE IF WE CAN TO
BE TO BE OPENING. A TO BRINING
BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S ABOUT STUDENT
SUCCESS AND STUDENT ACCESS AND I
THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE
FOR. AND I WHICH WE TALKED
EARLIER BECAUSE I'VE I HAVE
DEFINITELY SOME THOUGHTS. AND I
DO I DO SHARE CONCERNS ABOUT-
THE INCREASE IN ADMINISTRATORS.
I CERTAINLY HAVE SEEN THAT AND I
THINK THAT IS A LEGITIMATE ISSUE
SO I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS THAT
AT ALL. BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S
ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS AND
STUDENT ACCESS AND- I AGREE.
WITH ALL THE COMMENTS HAS BEEN
MADE HERE. THANK YOU US. THE ART
. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE
ADDING A LOT. TO WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AND IF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES WERE A LITTLE
CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO
DO THEIR JOB AND DO THIS ALL.
THE SAME TIME. THAT WE'RE WE'RE
PROBABLY GOING INTO IT. GOING TO
MAKE IT A LOT WORSE- IF WE DO
WANT TO ADD ALL THIS IN. THIS
THIS ISN'T GONNA GET DONE TODAY
I DON'T. AND NOW AND I FEEL LIKE
IT YOU KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE IN
A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BITES THAT
MIGHT BE MORE MANAGEABLE- THAT
TO BID. WHAT IF I THINK I'VE
HEARD THREE DIFFERENT THINGS WE
WANT TO PUT IN. AND THOSE THINGS
ARE NOT EASY TO DO AN AUDIT ON
IF. NOT ANSWERING YOUR CALL YOU
KNOW NOT ANSWERING FOR YOU BUT-
IT JUST SENSE FOR ME I SENSE
THAT THIS IS. WHAT WE'RE
EXPANDING THIS INTO SOMETHING
THAT'S LARGE. VERY LARGE AND WE
JERRY DIFFICULT- AND WE NEED
MORE INFORMATION FRANKLY FROM
OUR AUDITORS ON I WANTED ENTAILS
HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO ACCOMPLISH. SURE CAN I
CAN SUGGESTION. YES SO I WANTED
TO JUST SEE IF THERE IS A WAY TO
NARROW THIS AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE
TODAY. SO THE QUESTION THAT
YOU'RE ASKING IS REALLY A BINARY
QUESTION IS THE 50% LAW. FOR AND
TEACH FOR INSTRUCTION
INSTRUCTORS BEING MET OR NOT AND
THE ANSWER MIGHT VERY WELL BE
NO. BUT THEN IN THE EXPLANATION
OF WHY IT'S NOT BEING MET IT
WOULD BE EXPLAINED THAT THESE
THIS LARGE CATEGORY WHATEVER IT
IS. IT'S NOT JUST ADMIN WHICH
MEANS NON INSTRUCTOR BUT IT'S
THIS OTHER WHICH I'M CALLING
SOCIAL SAFETY NET BUT YOU CAN
CALL ANY OTHER THING. CATEGORY
THAT THE LEGISLATURE AT MAY OR
MAY NOT HAVE ASKED FOR BUT IS
HAPPENING AT CALLED THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND SO IT
WOULD JUST GIVE MORE COLOR TO
THE ACTUAL AUDIT SO WE WOULD BE
ABLE TO EVALUATE AS LEGISLATORS.
WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THE 50%
LOSS WE WANT TO EXPAND IT TO
INCLUDE MORE CATEGORIES WE WANT
TO DEFINE IT DIFFERENTLY. BUT
YOU STILL BE ABLE TO ASK YOUR
CORE QUESTION AND I THINK IN
ORDER TO ANSWER THE CORE
QUESTION YOU'RE GOING TO BE
LOOKING AT ALL OF THE- TITLES OF
WHAT PEOPLE'S JOBS ARE ANYWAY.
SO YOU'LL KNOW IF THEY'RE
WORKING IN THE HOMELESS STUDENTS
LIVING IN THEIR CAR- YOU KNOW
THAT'S THAT IN THEIR JOB
DESCRIPTION OR THERE AND AT. AN
ADJUNCT ADMIN PERSON SO IT SEEMS
LIKE THIS IF WE IF WE HAVE IT AS
A CONCEPT IS NOT JUST
INSTRUCTORS ARE OUT ADMIN BUT
THERE'S THIS OTHER CATEGORY THAT
IT COULD. FALL UNDERNEATH THAT
BINARY MEETING IT OR NOT MEETING
IT HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
THE NOT MEETING AND WHY. BECAUSE
TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE THIS MIGHT
BE POSSIBLE FOR THE AUDITOR TO
DO. I THINK THE MOST AND IN UP.
PERSON IN. TO ANSWER THESE
QUESTIONS IS ARE AUDITOR OF THE
STATE OUT DOESN'T A- TO. AND
UNDER. WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
AUDITING AND- NO MATTER WHAT WE
DISCUSS HERE THAT'S THAT'S NOT
GONNA BE HELPFUL. I THINK IT'S
PRETTY CLEAR WHAT THE AUTHOR IS
REQUESTING SO THAT'S- BUT SET
THAT ASIDE THAT'S VERY CLEAR- IN
THE COMMENTS YOU'RE HEARING
WHICH ALSO. I AGREE WITH MR
SEATTLE NOW SEEM TO BE. MAYBE A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF THE
NARROW DOWN JUSTICE NOW. IS IN
THEIR OWN A ENOUGH FOR YOU. TO
PROCEED TODAY WITH THAT- I WOULD
THINK THAT THERE COULD BE ANY
NUMBER OF CATEGORIES I COULD
MEET. WHAT I AGREE WITH IS AN
IMPORTANT SAFETY MATTER ASPECT
OF FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
BUT- WE- HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT
WHAT THOSE. ARE AND TO FIND
WHICH PROGRAMS ARE IN AND WHICH
ONES ARE OUT. I WOULD THINK BUT-
I DON'T KNOW GIVE YOU A CHANCE
TO RESPOND. AGAIN L. WE HAVE TO
LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND WHAT DATA THAT THEY HAVE
BETTER. YOUR POINT IS WELL
TAKEN. FOR THOSE POSITIONS AND
COST THAT DON'T COUNT. TOWARDS
THE 50% RULE. WE CAN TRY AND
CATEGORIZE THEM INTO DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES BROADLY SPEAKING. HOW
BROAD WE HAVE TO GO IS REALLY
GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON WHAT
THE RECORDS ARE LIKE AND HOW
MANY DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS
OF PEOPLE THERE ARE. BUT IF
THERE IS SOME PROPORTION OF. OF
STAFF AT THESE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT DON'T COUNT
TOWARDS THE 50% BUT THEY ARE IN
THE SAFETY NET PROGRAMS- PERHAPS
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE
RELATED TO- THE STATUS AND WERE
IN IT. AS AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY
AN AGENCY OR WHY COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ISN'T. COMPLYING BUT I
THINK IT WOULD BE PRESENTED MORE
INFORMATIONAL- THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE EITHER DID OR DID NOT
COMPLY WITH THE RULE HERE'S-
HERE'S WHAT THEY DID HERE'S WHAT
WE FOUND AND FOR THOSE THAT.
AREN'T COUNTED. TOWARDS THE 50%
HERE'S THE VARIOUS BUCKETS THAT
WE WERE ABLE TO CLASSIFY THEM
AND WHETHER IT WAS FOR. FOOD OR
HOUSING SUPPORT TO THE EXTENT
THAT THOSE RECORDS ARE
AVAILABLE. I THINK THAT SOUNDING
MORE MORE LIKE A FAIR WAY TO
MOVE FORWARD- BECAUSE IF YOU'VE
READ AUDITS BEFORE- EVEN IN THIS
SPACE WITH THE- FUNDING THAT WAS
PUT FORWARD IN THIS ARTIST WAS
RELEASED. THIS YEAR I BELIEVE ON
FACULTY FUNDING. AND THERE WAS
YOU KNOW VERY DIRECT RESPONSES
AS TO WHETHER THEY WERE MEETING
OR NOT BUT THEN THERE WAS A LOT
OF- IN THE NARRATIVE INTO THE
RESPONSE FROM THE COMMITTEE
BECAUSE AS TO WHY THEY WEREN'T
MEETING THEM AND INCLUDED A-
VARIETY OF REASONS I COULD SEE
THE SAME THING HAPPENING. WITH
THIS AUDIT ESPECIALLY WITHOUT
DIRECTION THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED
SO I'M I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE
WITH THAT I THINK THAT MAKES
SENSE. MS BERNARD AND YOU WANNA
MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS NO
I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY THEN
BE MORE SPECIFIC AND OUR- AUDIT
SCOPE WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING
THAT SAYS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT.
WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT TO THE
AUDIT THERE'S NO WAY TO LOOK AT
THE EXPANDED SCOPE. OF COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND NOT THINK THAT
EXPANDED SCOPE SPECIALLY FROM
THE LEGISLATURE. WOULD BE
SIGNIFICANT TO THE SIDE SO IF
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LINE IN
THERE THAT I'M FINE WITH THE HOW
YOU PROPOSE GOING FORWARD I
THINK THAT'S FINE. BUT THEN WE
SHOULD BE MORE CAREFUL THAT WERE
MORE. MORE DELINEATED BECAUSE
WHEN I READ. I WHEN I WITH ALL
MY INFORMATION MY BRIEFING FOR
TODAY. I WAS LIKE OH YEAH YOU
CAN TELL INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE
THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S NOT
SIGNIFICANT. A MEETING THAT 50%
OR NOT RIGHT LIKE THAT'S JUST
LOGICAL. SO I WOULD JUST ASK
THAT BE MORE TAILORED IN THE
FUTURE IF THE- IF THAT'S WHAT IT
MEANS IS THAT WE CAN EXPAND IT
SOMETHING THAT'S- SO OBVIOUS
THAT. IT'S AFFECTING THE. FIFTY
PERCENT. RULE OKAY DIGIMARC
COMING OUT WHAT IT. OUGHT TO AT
THE END OF THE DAY. YOU KNOW MY
ALL. WORKS THIS CAN- WE TAKE
ORDER. FROM THIS CAN. I JUST
WANTED TO POINT OUT WHAT YOU'RE
COMMITTEES RULES ARE- MORE THAN
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY DIRECTION THIS
COMMITTEE GIVES MY STAFF IN
TERMS OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE
SCOPE OF THE AUDIT. OKAY I THINK
WE'RE GETTING THERE. MISTER
LEONARD- I THINK WE'RE THERE
ALTHOUGH. WHEN I FIRST ASKED. TO
COMMENT. ON HIS WAY AWAY FROM
THE CONVERSATION AND THEN IT
CAUGHT UP WITH ME. AND I THINK
THAT IT WAS MISUNDERSTOOD THIS
WAS BIG BROADNECK. BECAUSE IT
WAS JUST ONE CATEGORY. YOU CAN
HAVE TO CATEGORIZE EVERY
POSITION AS IT IS THAT IS A-
PART OF THE OPTION NOW TO DECIDE
WHERE IT IS TO GET. THE 50% RULE
WE'RE JUST ADDING ONE CATEGORY
OF CATEGORIZATION TO MAKE SURE.
IF THEY'RE IT'S CATEGORIZED AS
SPECIAL NEEDS WE SEE HOW THAT
FITS WITHIN WHAT YOU'RE DOING
THAT'S WORKED AT HE'S GOING TO
HAVE TO DO ANYWAY. WASN'T ALL
THESE EXTRA CATEGORIES WHOSE
DISTRICT THINGS. THAT WERE IN
ONE CATEGORY THAT THAT MIGHT BE
THE CATEGORISATION. AND I THINK
YOU'VE GOT THERE IN SORT OF THE
EXPLANATION SO. YOU KNOW. ONE
THERE'S A WHOLE ISSUE. A LOT OF
CATEGORIES AND THAT ISN'T. DAHLE
TO DON'T DISRUPT. IT BECAUSE IT
IT REALLY HAVE TO LOOK. AT A
100% OF THE POSITIONS AND DECIDE
WHAT THEY ARE. IT AND- IF IT IS
NON TEACHING. BOUGHT IT'S REALLY
SAVING STUDENTS THAT DIDN'T
EXIST BEFORE. JUST TO TRACK WHEN
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT ANYWAY IT
IS A FAIR THING IT'S GOING TO BE
WORK THAT IS DONE ANYWAY AND I
THINK HIS SOLUTION GODDESS. YEAH
I AGREE I THINK THE WAY YOU
PRESENT OF THAT- GETS US TO A
MEETING THE AUTHORS REQUIRES I
THINK GETTING IS MORE CLARITY AS
TO THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS ARE
FLAVOR CERTAINLY. ARE A SENSE
OF- WHAT OTHER POSITIONING
SYSTEM MIGHT SUPPORTS STUDENTS
BUT THAT ARE NOT COUNTED AS PART
OF THE 50% THAT COULD GIVE US
MORE INFORMATION AND- COULD GIVE
US. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE-
DECISION MAKING US MISS BIKES
PAYER AND MISTER WILK HAS
ALREADY ATTEMPTED. DID YOU HAVE
SOMETHING WANTED OUT I JUST
WANTED TO ADD SO AND I HAVEN'T
DONE IT IN A NUMBER OF YEARS BUT
THE LAST TIME I CHECKED. IT
COMMUNITY COLLEGE THERE WAS ONE
COUNSELOR FOR EVERY ONE THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO STUDENTS
AND THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T GET
THE JOB DONE. B. ACT. I HAD TO
GO AN EXTRA. YEAR OF COLLEGE
BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD
EVERYTHING AND I DIDN'T BECAUSE
I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T ACCESS THERE
WAS ON ME THAT I DIDN'T ACCESS
WAS COUNTED COUNSELING SERVICES
BECAUSE THEY'RE AVAILABLE BUT
NOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR
STUDENTS SO. I THINK I THINK
BETWEEN THAT ALL THE OTHER
CHANGES AND HOW- THE STUDENTS
LEARN. AND ALL THE CHALLENGES
THAT THAT WE HAVE IN IN IN
SOCIETY IN GENERAL I REALLY LIKE
THE WAY TO CENTER BIKES PAYER
LAID THAT OUT. AND I THINK IT
DOES FIT WITHIN. THE SCOPE OF
WHAT- ASSEMBLY RODRIGUEZ WANTS
TO DO AND I MEAN I'M EXCITED
ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. FANTASY.
AUTO DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL.
OKAY SO SEE WE CAN- GET US TO A
POINT WHERE WE CAN AGREE THAT
ALWAYS THE ATTEMPT THE ALLEY. IN
THIS COMMITTEE THE I'VE CHAIRED-
RODRIGUEZ ANY CLOSING. OR YOUR-
WITNESS. LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY
ADDITIONAL OKAY TAKING OUR
COMMENTS AND CONSIDERATION. DID
YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENT
. I'LL BE PREACHER ALVAREZ THANK
YOU I'M I'M I'M VERY EXCITED
ABOUT CENTER BLAKE SPEERS
PROPOSAL I. I DO BELIEVE IT
INVOLVES A SEPARATE AUDIT SO
BECAUSE WE HAVE I JUST. SHARON
AND ALL WHAT I THOUGHT WERE
SAFETY NET SO HEALTHCARE
SERVICES MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
FOOD PANTRY HOUSING IN
SECURITIES TRANSPORTATION
TUTORING. ACCESS TO
INSTRUCTIONAL OFFICE HOURS
TEXTBOOK PRICES. AND THEN YOU
KNOW E. O. P. S. POINT MAYES ARE
ALL ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS FOR OUR
STUDENTS TO SUCCEED I WOULD. BE
SO SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING AN
EXPANSIVE AUDIT THEY JUST
FOCUSED. ON STUDENT SAFETY NET
ISSUES. IN REGARDS TO THIS AUDIT
I THINK TWEAKING THE SUPPORT
STAFF. COMPARISON OF
ADMINISTRATIVE GROWTH VERSUS
FACULTY CHANGES VERSUS STUDENT
ENROLLMENT VERSES. THE
CLASSIFIED STAFF AND THEN
IDENTIFYING THOSE CLASSIFIED
STAFF BY WHETHER THEY FALL
WITHIN THE STUDENTS SAFETY NET
CATEGORY. I THINK THAT THAT
PIECE OF INFORMATION IN AND OF
ITSELF WOULD BE HELPFUL. I THINK
ANYTHING BEYOND. MIGHT ACTUALLY
DELUDE THE OUTCOME OR THE
INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
GATHER WET. WHAT I WOULD BE
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH JUST. ME IS
TRYING TO INCORPORATE SUCH A
COMPLEX AND COMPREHENSIVE IN
NEEDED ANALYSIS. AS AN ADD ON TO
AN EXISTING AUDIT AND THEN
HAVING THE OUTCOME OF THAT I DID
BE A DETERMINING FACTOR IN TO
TURN IN IN DECIDING WHERE WE GO
IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE IN ORDER TO FOCUS IS JUST
ON ON ON SAFETY NET ISSUES.
THANK YOU OKAY WE WILL GO ON TO
PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AS THERE
ANYONE IN. THE AUDIENCE WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY
YOURSELF AND PROVIDE COMMENT.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
RICHARD MEMBERS TRISTEN BROWN
WITH THE CALIFORNIA FEDERATION
OF TEACHERS WHO REPRESENTS
CLASSIFIED AND FACULTY MEMBERS
AT OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM-
AND WE HAVE HEARD FROM MANY OF
THOSE MEMBERS AT THE GRADUAL
SHIFT THAT WE'RE SEEING. OF OUR
MEMBERS WORK BEING DOWNGRADED TO
PART TIME WORK RATHER THAN FULL
TIME TO ALWAYS SCRAMBLING FOR
SCRAPS IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE ALL
OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE LISTED
TODAY. SUCCESSFUL YOU DON'T HAVE
PROGRAMS IF YOU DON'T HAVE STAFF
TO PROVIDE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT
THE PROGRAMS AND SO WE ARE VERY
EXCITED- WHEN MR RODRIGUEZ-
BROUGHT THIS FOR TO YOUR
COMMITTEE WERE VERY EXCITED AT
THE DIRECTION THAT IS NOW
HEADING THIS IS BEEN A GREAT
DISCUSSION SO WE THANK YOU ALL
FOR THAT. WE HOPE THIS PASSES
AND- THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THE
GREAT WORK AFTER WE HAVE ALL THE
SUNSHINE ON THE IMPLEMENTATION
OF THIS CURRENT LAW WHICH I
THINK IS IMPORTANT ITERATE.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING
THIS LET'S MAKE SURE
EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING CORRECTLY
SO WE APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. CHURCH MEMBERS ALSO
WEBSTER ON BEHALF THE FACULTY
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ONE- ONE MY COMMENTS
WITH THAT MY COLLEAGUE FROM C.
F. T. AS WELL THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR THIS- CERTAINLY WE AGREE
THAT- IT MORE DATA IS GREAT AS
WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN
SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS AND
EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THEIR
OVERALL SUCCESS. APPRECIATE THE
ABOUT. ENTER MARTINEZ COMMITTEE
CALLS WITH A CALIFORNIA WE
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND
EVERYTHING WAS TERRIBLY
INSIGHTFUL. WE HAVE BEEN
THINKING ABOUT IT THE CALLS IN
DISTRICTS THAT ARE PART OF THE
COLLEGE LEAGUE. ABOUT EQUITY IN
THE REFERENCE SERVICES THAT
NEEDS OUR STUDENTS NEED TO BE
SUPPORTED. TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AT
THAT MEANS MORE MORE RESOURCES
OUTSIDE THE CLASSROOM. AND THAT
MEANS THAT IT'S GONNA BE HARDER
AND HARDER BURDEN FOR US TO BE
THE 50% THRESHOLD AND WAS
ALLUDED TO MODEL IT OURSELVES
COMMITTEE FROM SIERRA COLLEGE.
THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT REALLY
REALLY TREMENDOUSLY. WHEN YOU
SHOULD. DETAIL DECISIONS TO MAKE
THAT. WORK IT'S BECOMING HARDER
AND HARDER. WE APPRECIATE THE
FOCUS ON LEGISLATURE ON EQUITY.
AND WINE AND CREAM WITH YOU. BUT
IT IS GONNA BE A BURDEN AS WE GO
FORWARD- TO MEET THOSE GOALS AND
TO MEET THE TRACTORS AND
TRAILERS TO SUCCESSFUL. GOOD
AFTERNOON MICHELLE MCCANN A WET
ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ADMINISTRATORS- TO ALIGN MY
COMMENTS WITH THAT OF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEAGUE- WHO
ACTUALLY JUST. APPOINTED OUT WHO
I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
SIERRA COLLEGE. SUPERINTENDENT
CHANCE ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE
BUT SUBMITTED A LETTER AND I
WANTED TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THE
THINGS. THAT FALL OUTSIDE OF THE
50% LAW BETTER SO SUCCESS- SO
CRITICAL FOR STUDENT SUCCESS
THAT'S THINGS LIKE- COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING- ACADEMIC SENATES.
THE ENCOURAGEMENT FOR FACULTY TO
PARTICIPATE SO THESE ARE ALL
THINGS THAT FALL OUTSIDE THE
CLASSROOM FALL OUTSIDE OF THE
50% LAW BUT ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR
THE STUDENTS SUCCESS- AS ANDREW
JUST MENTIONED. THEY ARE IN
COMPLIANCE YEAR COLLEGES IN
COMPLIANCE WITH A 50% LAW-
THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE AUDIT
BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY TO
THE 50% LAW. BUT THEY GO THROUGH
THE AUDIT EVERY YEAR AND THEY
ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH 50% BUT
UNDER. THE SCOPE OF THIS AUDIT
THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED. AND THE
DAY EVERY YEAR GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS. OF MAKING SURE THAT
THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH A
50% LAW AND SOMETIMES HAVE TO
ADD POSITIONS WITHIN THE 50%
LAW. TO COUNTER POSITIONS THAT
THEY'RE ADDING OUTSIDE TODAY IF
THEY'RE ADDING A COUNSELOR
OUTSIDE FOR STUDENT SUCCESS.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO ADD A FACULTY
MEMBER WHETHER THEY NEED IT OR
NOT THAT'S HOW MUCH OF THAT THEY
FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THEY'RE IN
COMPLIANCE- SO I THINK IN
CONCLUSION. THE HOPE IS THAT
FROM THIS ROBUST CONVERSATION
THERE WILL BE A BIGGER LOOK AT
STUDENT SUCCESS. AND WHAT FANGS.
BOTH FALL INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF
THE 50% LAW- TO MAKE SURE THAT
OUR STUDENTS ARE SUCCESSFUL- IN
OUR COLLEGES TODAY BECAUSE THEY
ARE SO VERY DIFFERENT FROM ONE
THE 50% LAW. WAS ENACTED THANK
YOU THANK YOU. THE MILITARY
COMMITTEE FROM THE CREW. WITH
THE HELP FEDERATION AND ALSO ON
BEHALF OF S. YEAH. JUST ONE
ALIGN OURSELVES WITH THE CFT AND
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS- AUDIT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A. L.
SWITCH TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY. CASEY NINE- EIGHT-
YOUR TURN ONCE AGAIN THE NUMBER
OF RODRIGUEZ TO MAKE A CLOSING
STATEMENT- QUESTION BEFORE YOU
DO THAT LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I
THINK OF THE AUDITOR. HAS SOME
CLARITY- AND THE COMMITTEE AS
WELL- PRE SHE ALL ENGAGE IN
CONVERSATION I GUESS I HAVE ONE
OF THESE EVERY HEARING- WHERE WE
ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION WE TRY TO
I TRY TO MAKE SURE WE RESOLVE
AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO
PROVIDE. CERTAINLY THE REQUEST
OR THE AUTHOR ON THE AUDIT THAT
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR BUT ALSO
THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO
AS LEGISLATORS. WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE TO MAKE BETTER POLICY IN
THE FUTURE SO I THINK WE GOT
THERE I APPRECIATE- EVERYBODY
CENTER BIKES PAYER- SO MEMBER
BURNER AND OTHERS. PROVIDING
THAT- NARROWING THE FOCUS I
THINK YOUR STATEMENTS EARLIER-
MEET THAT- MEET THAT MOMENT IN
THAT REQUEST AND IT'S- PRETTY
CLEAR TO ME BUT I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR TO ALL
OF US. AS WE TAKE THIS VOTE AS
TO WHAT TO EXPECT AND OBVIOUSLY
ALSO TO THE AUTHOR WHO'S
REQUESTING THIS- AS TO WHAT TO
EXPECT WITH AN AUDIT IT'S THE
ITEMS YOU HAVE I OUTLINED. AND
IN ADDITION TO THAT- A. K. OF-
IN A WAY THAT. ALLOWS US TO.
IDENTIFY AND UNDERSTAND-
POSITIONS THAT MIGHT BE A
STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES OR-
SAFETYNET SERVICES I THINK
THAT'S THE PHRASE THAT WAS USED-
IS THAT. YOUR INTENT CLARITY YOU
HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION TO DO THAT
. YES I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH
CLARITY FOR THAT AND JUST AS
LONG AS YOU KNOW MY OFFICE HAS
THE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF. YOU
KNOW IS IT SUBSETS WITHIN THAT
SAFETY NET OR IS IT JUST THE
BROAD CATEGORY. SAFETY NET AS
LONG AS WE HAVE THAT DESCRIPTION
THIS DISCRETION BASED ON. THE
QUALITY OF THE DATA THAT'S
AVAILABLE- THAT WOULD BE FINE.
CAN I DO THINK THAT INFORMATION
WILL BE USEFUL TO US GOING
FORWARD AND PERHAPS AN
ADDITIONAL AUDIT TO- OR OR
DIFFERENT POLICY MAKING. AS
RELATES TO FUNDING FOR OUR
SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES. DOES THAT
PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME CLARITY TO
ARE REQUESTING AUTHOR THINKS MR
YES I'LL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY
CLOSE ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO THANK
ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
FOR THIS- ROBUST DISCUSSION
OVERSEE A LOT OF. GOOD
INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED IN. OF
SHE DISCUSSED AS WELL MOVING
FORWARD. SO WITH THAT SAID ARE.
WORK ME. UP REQUEST AN AYE VOTE
ON THE- THANK YOU FOR MUCH
MISTER NEGATIVE. YOUR PATIENCE
AND- ENGAGE WITH HERE SO WITH
THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS
ITEM I SUSPECT DURING THE CALL
THE ROLL AND PLEASE ONLY AFTER
THIS OVER GOING TO ALSO CALL-
THE ROLE ON THE- ITEMS THAT
YOU'VE MISSED SO- WE HAVE A- WAY
TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS.
BETWEEN DID DID I HEAR MOTION BY
HER LARA. MISSED MISTER WILKES
SECONDS THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION TO APPROVE REQUEST NUMBER
TWENTY TWO THREE ONE SIX CAL
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
ADMINISTRATOR SPENDING BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALL THE REST.
OFTEN AS I'D BURNER. BURNER HI
HOOVER. HOOVER I PATTERSON
PATTERSON I RUBIO. THE LANCIA.
VALENCIA I WOULD. WOOD I SENATOR
BLAKE SPEAR LIKE SPEAR AYE
CORTESE. EGGMAN EGGMAN I.
GONZALEZ HI GONZALEZ I LAYERED.
WHERE I SAY ARE TO SEYARTO I
WILK. WILK AYE. THE PROCESS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN NOW
WE'RE GOING TO- CALL THE ROLL ON
THE ITEMS THAT- CONSENT TO CHEN
AND A FEW OTHER VOTES. CENTURY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
INSTITUTIONAL CHANNELS. 50% OF.
HOW MUCH OF MOTION TO APPROVE
ITEMS ARE THE CAN CAL. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HOOVER. HOOVER I
PATTERSON. AND PATTERSON MOTION
TO APPROVE CONSENT I PATTERSON I
. SENATOR EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE. N.
C. R. TWO C. R. TWO I.
MOTIONS APPROVE THE ITEMS ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WOULD. WOOD I. MOTION TO APPROVE
AUDIT REQUEST NUMBER TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO SIX
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
INSTRUCTOR AND ADMINISTRATOR
SPENDING BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ ASSEMBLY MEMBER RUBIO
. AND SENATOR CORTESE. MOTION TO
APPROVE I REQUEST NUMBER TWENTY
TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO SEVEN
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION ENERGY EFFICIENCY
PROGRAMS AND OVERSIGHT BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER TING ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HOOVER HOOVER AYE
PATTERSON PATTERSON I WOULD
WOULD I. SENATOR EGGMAN EGGMAN
AYE SEYARTO SEYARTO NOT VOTING.
I REQUEST NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY
THREE DASH ONE TWO NINE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HOOVER NO HOOVER
NO. PATTERSON NO PATTERSON NO.
WOOD RIGHT WOOD I. SENATOR
EGGMAN EGGMAN I. SEYARTO STARED
OUT NOT VOTING. YEAH. OKAY WE
WILL KEEP- UP OPEN FOR FIVE MORE
MINUTES FOR ANY MISSING MEMBERS
THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. YES.
TWENTY TWENTY THREE DASH ONE TWO
SIX CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES INSTRUCTOR IN
ADMINISTRATIVE SPENDING BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RODRIGUEZ
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RUBIO RUBIO I.
SENATOR CORTEZ EIGHT. I THINK
THAT'S WHAT. HAPPENED HE
PLANNING TO MOVE OUT YEAH. OKAY
THANK YOU SO FIVE MORE MINUTES
OF LOCAL THIS OPEN FOR. THE ITEM
ARE REMAIN. IT'S GOING. I'M NOT
SURE. I ALWAYS. SO I THINK. YEAH
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLY. YEAH THANKS
. LAST. OKAY YEAH YEAH YEAH
THINK THIS IS YEAH.
I SEE NO OTHER BUSINESS- JOIN
LET'S HAVE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS
NOW RETURNED.