THIS COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE WILL COME TO ORDER
WELCOME EVERYBODY GOOD MORNING
THE SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME
THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND VIA THE
TELECONFERENCING VERSUS FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS ONE SIX ONE. EIGHT ZERO FIVE
ONE WE ARE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS HERE IN THE- STREET
BUILDINGS AND I WANT TO ASK ALL
OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
TO BE PRESENT IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED TWENTY TWO HUNDRED SO WE
CAN ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM AND
BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE'RE GONNA
START AS A SUBCOMMITTEE SO WE'LL
WAIT ON TAKING UP THE PROPOSED
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND VOTING
ON ITEMS BUT THERE ARE FIRST
AUTHORS HERE SAID LIKE TO
WELCOME- J. S. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PATTERSON WHO'S NUMBER ONE ON
THE AGENDA AND THAT IS- AB.
THREE FOURTEEN. YES SIR. WELL
THANK YOU FOR. BUT WE PRESENT AB
THREE FOURTEEN. THIS EXTENDS THE
SUNSET FOR FIVE YEARS ON A SALES
AND USE TAX EXEMPTION THAT
ALLOWS COMMERCIAL TRUCKS AND
TRAILERS TO BE PURCHASED FROM
CALIFORNIA DEALERS TAX FREE.
WITHOUT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL
BURDENSOME REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO
BRINGS PARITY TO THE LAW BY
SIMPLY CLARIFYING THAT USED
TRAILERS ALSO QUALIFY. FOR THIS
PROVISION IN ADDITION. WE
MANUFACTURED. WHEN I BROUGHT THE
ORIGINAL BILL AB THREE TWENTY
ONE BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE TWENTY
NINETEEN FOR A COMMERCIAL TRUCK
PURCHASED IN CALIFORNIA TO
QUALIFY AS INTERSTATE COMMERCE
FOR TAX PURPOSES. IT HAD TO MAKE
TWO QUALIFICATIONS IT MUST BE
OUT OF THE STATE MORE THAN 51%
OF THE TIME. IN THE VEHICLE MUST
MAKE ITS INITIAL TRIP WITH A
LOAD INTO THE STATE EVEN IF IT
WAS PURCHASED IN CALIFORNIA
MANDATING THIS UNNECESSARY
INBOUND TRIP REQUIREMENT
INCREASED TRAFFIC POLLUTION COST
WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROAD JUST
AFTER. TO EXTEND THE TOUGH.
SENSE ENSURES THAT MALCOLM
TRUCKS AND TRAILERS WILL
CONTINUE TO BE EXEMPT FROM THAT
INBOUND TRIP. REQUIREMENT KRISH
SHIMODA. WITH THE CALIFORNIA
TRUCKING ASSOCIATION IS HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THAT IS
THE NECESSARY. MISTER SHIMODA
WELCOME. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
IN A COMMITTEE MEMBERS CHRISTIAN
MEADOWS CALIFORNIA TRUCKING
ASSOCIATION IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE BILL- COULDN'T PURCHASE FOR
USE IN INTERSTATE COMMERCE- HAS
LONG BEEN EXEMPT FROM SALES AND
USE TAX BUT REQUIRED THAT THE
EQUIPMENT FIRST BE USED OUT OF
STATE- AS AS MENTIONED SOMEONE
MEMBER PATTERSON'S PRIOR BILL-
ON THIS ISSUE EIGHTY THREE
TWENTY ONE REPEALED THIS FIRST
USE REQUIREMENTS- WHICH IS
REDUCED OUT OF STATE SHIPMENTS.
BY TRUCK DEALERS IN THE SEARCH
FUEL GASES AND ROAD WHERE I
CREATED BY THEIR SHIPMENTS OF
THIS PROVISION SUNSETS IN TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR- THE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S WAS TASKED WITH
ASSESSING IN THE PROVISIONS
IMPACTING FOUND THAT IT COULD
NOT QUANTIFY ANY FISCAL IMPACT.
FROM EIGHTY THREE TWENTY ONE IF
THE SUNSET WERE TO LAPSE NO
ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE WOULD
ACCRUE TO THE STATE. OR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS IS OUT OF STATE
SHIPMENTS WOULD SIMPLY CONTINUE-
THIS BILL AB THREE FOURTEEN
EXTENDS A SUNSET PROVISION TO
TWENTY TWENTY NINE AND WHAT ADD
USE TRAILERS THE SECTION IS NEW
TRAILERS ARE ALREADY. EXEMPT
FROM THE FIRST USE REQUIREMENT-
THIS WILL BENEFIT AIR QUALITY
AND CONGESTION BY REDUCING
UNNECESSARY TRUCK TRIPS BY
DEALERS AND KEEP CALIFORNIA'S
TRUCK DEALERS COMPETITIVE.
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT OPERATING
ENVIRONMENT WE THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE TIME
RESPECTFULLY RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR NOT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE
IN ROOM. TWENTY TWO HUNDRED THAT
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. ANYBODY WISHES
SPEAK AND IS A ANYONE WHO THAT
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OPPOSITION.
SEEING NO MOVEMENT IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED- CHECK IN
WITH A MODERATOR WELCOME TODAY
TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE.
MODERATOR IF YOU COULD QUEUE UP
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER IN SUPPORT
OR IN OPPOSITION. IF YOU WISH IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME
. THE MEDICARE WE HAVE NO ONE
QUEUING UP TO SPEAK AT THIS
TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I'LL
BRING THE- BILL BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE IF THERE ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
THERE ARE NONE YOU MAY CONCLUDE.
APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S A GOOD
SIGN BY THE WAY I JUST. I'M SO.
YES AND MY STAFF THAT
CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER MEMBERS
AND- I THAT I THINK THIS HAS
STRONG SUPPORT BIPARTISAN UP FOR
OBVIOUS REASONS IT'S A GOOD BILL
WE APPRECIATE THE- AT TRUCKING
ASSOCIATION FOR HELPING US- PUT
IT TOGETHER AND ALSO- A- LARGE A
DEALER IN FRESNO OPERATE BY THE
HOWARD FAMILY. CAME TO ME WITH
THE PROBLEM AND HELPED US
NAVIGATE THROUGH TWENTY NINETEEN
SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT
THAT'S IMPORTANT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHEN WE GET
A QUORUM WHILE I TAKE THIS RIGHT
UP JUST WANNA I PROBABLY SHOULD
HAVE ANNOUNCED AT THE BEGINNING
THAT WE HAVE ELEVEN BILLS ONTO
THE ARE ACTUALLY TEN. ELEVEN
BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AGENDA
AND FOR OUR PROPOSED FOR CONSENT
SO ITEM NUMBER TWO AB FIVE
ELEVEN BY SENATOR DICK ASSEMBLY
MEMBER DIXON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AB
FIVE FIVE NINE. BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BURNER ITEM
NUMBER SIX AB SEVEN FIFTY NINE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON AND ITEM
NUMBER TWELVE AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY
THREE- BY THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT
COMMITTEE. SO THOSE WILL BE ON
CAN. AND AND WILL- WE WON'T HAVE
ANY TESTIMONY SO IF YOU'RE
CALLING IN REGARDS TO THAT YOU
CAN SEND IN INFORMATION- WE'RE
GONNA TAKE A BRIEF BREAK FOR A
SECOND.
ARE YOU NEGLECTED TO SAY IN
ADDITION THAT ITEM NUMBER FIVE
ON THE AGENDA AB FIVE NINETY TWO
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WILSON HAS BEEN
PUT OVER IT BY THE COMMITTEE TO
NEXT WEEK'S HEARING ON JUNE
FOURTEENTH SO NEXT WE'RE GOING
TO MOVE ON- FIVE FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO IS PART OF THE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SO WE MOVE
ON TO FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE A.
B. FIVE FIVE SEVEN BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER HEART. WELCOME TO
THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS YOUR AND
SENATORS. I AM PLEASED TO
REPRESENT AB FIVE FIVE SEVEN A
MEASURE TO CONTINUE GIVING LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS THE FLEXIBILITY
TELECONFERENCE DURING THE STATE
OF EMERGENCIES THAT ARE DECLARED
BY THE GOVERNOR THE COMING
NINETEEN PANDEMIC IN RECENT
STORMS OF UNDERSCORE THE ONGOING
NEED TO PROVIDE LOCAL AGENCIES
WITH THE ABILITY TO MEET
REMOTELY THIS BILL WILL SIMPLY
REMOVE THE SUNSET ON EXISTING
LAW TO GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
THE OPTION TO TELECONFERENCE
DURING GOVERNOR DECLARED
EMERGENCIES AB FIVE FIVE SEVEN
ONE SURE LOCALLY ELECTED BODIES
CAN DO THE ESSENTIAL WORK THEIR
ELECTED TO DO WITHOUT
JEOPARDIZING THEIR HEALTH AND
SAFETY. I'M AWARE OF THE
CONCERNS RAISED BY THE
OPPOSITION AND SOME MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE. I APPRECIATE THE
FEEDBACK FEEDBACK ON THE
LANGUAGE IN THIS BILL. I'M
COMMITTED TO AMENDING THE BILL
THE NEXT COMMITTEE TO CLARIFY
THAT IN ORDER FOR A LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUE TO MEET
REMOTELY THERE MUST BE
REQUIREMENTS FOR SOCIAL
DISTANCING DURING AN ACTIVE
STATE OF EMERGENCY- TESTIFYING
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL OR RON
DUNCAN GENERAL MANAGER THE SO
CAL WATER DISTRICT. AND MARK IS
DETWILER REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION.
WELCOME. ASSEMBLY MEMBER HEART A
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
MY NAME IS MARCUS THAT WEILER I
A PROUD SPONSOR OF THIS MEASURE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION. I'M ALSO
JOINED BY MY FELLOW SPONSORS THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES AND THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL BOARDS
ASSOCIATION. OUT SIDE OF THE
AMENDMENT THAT YOU HEARD
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. HEART
COMMITTING TO TAKING TODAY THIS
BILL IS A MODEST BROWN ACT BILL
THAT ONLY DOES TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE THIS BROWN ACT BILL
REMOVES THE JANUARY TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR SUNSET THAT WAS
PLACED ON THE PROVISIONS ADDED
TO THE BROWN ACT BY AB THREE
SIXTY ONE. THE BILL FROM A FEW
YEARS AGO BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ROBERT RIVAS. THIS REMOVAL OF
THIS NECESSARY THAT THE REMOVAL
OF THE SUNSET. IS NECESSARY IN
ORDER TO PERMIT LOCAL AGENCIES
TO CONTINUE TO AVAIL THEMSELVES
OF THE EMERGENCY REMOTE MEETING
PROCEDURES THAT WERE PUT INTO
PLACE BY AB THREE SIXTY ONE. THE
SECOND AND ONLY OTHER THING THAT
THIS BILL DOES IS MODIFIED THE
DURATION OF THE AB THREE SIXTY
ONE RENEWAL RESOLUTIONS THAT
WERE PART OF THE PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS OF AB THREE SIXTY
ONE. IT CHANGES THAT TIME FRAME
FROM THIRTY DAYS TO FORTY FIVE
DAYS. THE REASON FOR THIS
CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE
LOCAL AGENCIES WITH REGULAR
FIXED MEETING SCHEDULES THAT FOR
EXAMPLE WERE ON THE SECOND
TUESDAY WITH THE THIRD THURSDAY
OF THE MONTH. NORMALLY THIRTY
DAYS IS ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE
THESE SORTS OF SCHEDULES BUT IN
SOME INSTANCES DURING THE
REGULAR CALENDAR YEAR. THIRTY
DAYS IS JUST SHORT OF THAT TIME
FRAME. AND SO THIS CHANGED TO
FORTY FIVE DAYS WILL ACCOMMODATE
THESE AGENCIES. AND AVOID THE
SITUATIONS THAT HAVE ARISEN
WHERE WE'VE HAD LOCAL AGENCIES
GRAPPLING AND MERELY TO PASS A
RESOLUTION AND THEN GAVEL OUT-
WITH THIS WE- BELIEVE THAT AB
FIVE FIVE SEVEN IS A NARROWLY
TAILORED. TAILORED TO MEASURE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
ARE THE EXAMPLE GOOD MORNING RON
DUNCAN SOCO CREEK WATER
DISTRICT. SERVING ABOUT FIFTY
THOUSAND RESIDENTS IN SANTA CRUZ
COUNTY. WE ARE THE WIRE YOUR
POSTER CHILD FOR THIS BILL AB
THREE SIXTY ONE ALREADY HAS
HELPED OUR AGENCY AND COMMUNITY.
AND WILL NOT AB FIFTY FIVE FIVE
SEVEN WILL ALLOW THIS GOOD
POLICY TO CONTINUE. OUR MARCH
TWENTY FIRST- BOARD MEETING MAY
NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT AB
THREE SIXTY ONE. AND CERTAINLY
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WOULD HAVE
BEEN HIGHLY COMPROMISED. OUR
AREA WAS HIT THIS YEAR WITH
STORMS AND PREVIOUS TO THAT
FIRES AND DROUGHTS THIS WHIPLASH
CLIMATE IS EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY
OVER THE YEARS THIS YEAR- AREAS
THAT WE SERVE CITY OF- CAPITAL-
WEARING GOLDEN WAVES IN THE
WHOLE PORTIONS OF THE CITY WERE
CLOSED DOWN FOR MONTHS AT A
TIME. WARP THE WHARF WAS CUT IN
HALF ANOTHER WHARF WAS
COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED-
LANDSLIDES AND ROAD CLOSURES
WERE COMMON AND ONE ROAD IN
DRAMATIC FASHION WAS WASHED OUT
STRANDING FIFTY HOUSEHOLDS WITH
NO EGRESS OR WATER. THE GOVERNOR
DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY
FOR COUNTY. ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE
WE POSTED THE AGENDA FOR MARCH
TWENTY FIRST BOARD MEETING WE
SAW THE FORECAST OF SIGNIFICANT
STORMS ARRIVING IN OUR AREA-
WITH THE STORMS HITTING HARDEST
DURING THE NIGHT OF THE MEETING.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT BOARD
MEMBERS STAFF AND PUBLIC BE ABLE
ATTEND THE MEETING AND AGENDA
ITEMS NEEDED TO BE. APPROVED BY
THE BOARD IN A TIMELY MANNER
THANKFULLY WE WERE ABLE TO HOLD
THE MEETING REMOTELY UNDER THE
PROVISIONS OF THREE SIXTY ONE
WHICH AB. FIVE FIVE SEVEN WILL
CONTINUE. ALSO I TO JUST THAT A
ROOM WE HAD IT WOULD TO THE
THIRTY. REQUIRE SO THE FORTY
FIVE DAY MODIFICATION IS ALSO AN
EXCELLENT ADDITION. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR HARD WORK DURING THESE
TIMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS
THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
DOROTHY JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS PLEASED TO BE IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING JOHNNY
PINA WITH THE LEAVE CALIFORNIA
CITIES AND ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES PROUD CO SPONSORS OF
THE BILL AND A STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS CARE ROSS ON
BEHALF OF THE MARIN COUNTY
COUNCIL OF MAYORS AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND SUPPORT. JEFF BEAL
ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY SAN
DIEGO IN SUPPORT. IF THE **** ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA. OF
RECREATION PARK DISTRICTS THE
CITY CLERK'S ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA. AND THE CITIES OF
BELMONT MOUNTAIN VIEW RANCHO
CUCAMONGA CARLSBAD SANTA ROSA
AND REDWOOD CITY IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING CARLOS
MACHADO WITH. COURSES A CO
SPONSOR ON THE BILL IN STRONG
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING JEAN HURST
HERE TO ME HAVE TO THE URBAN
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTIES
OF SANTA CRUZ AND SANTA BARBARA
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING CAMERA
CHILD ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC
AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. YOU IN ANY MARIANUM OF SAN
MATTEO COUNTY AND CALIFORNIA
TRAVEL ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. PAGO MORNING STEVE
ALL COME HAVE THE VALID.
AUTHORITY CAN. MORNING NEXT THE
LOS UNIFIED SCHOOL DIST IN
SUPPORT. YOU THERE ANYONE ELSE
IN SUPPORT. THING WILL MOVE ON
UP THE AND TWENTY HUNDRED THERE
ANYONE IN OPPOSITE. WELCOME
THANK YELL TURN MEMBERS I'M
LOGGED SCAMS ALLEGE DIRECTOR FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMON CAUSE I
RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION AT
THIS TIME. ARE GENERALLY COMMON
CAUSE BELIEVES THAT THE STATE'S
CURRENT ROBUST OPEN MEETING LAWS
AND POLICIES WHICH PROTECT FACE
TO FACE ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC
AND PRESS TWO OFFICIALS. ARE
REALLY FOUNDATIONAL FOR A
HEALTHY DEMOCRACY. BUT WE DO
RECOGNIZE THAT IN EXTREME
CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE A TRUE
EMERGENCY- WHICH WOULD ENDANGER
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE
PUBLIC OR THE OFFICIALS- IN
MEETING IN PERSON. THERE IS A
PLACE TO SUCCESSFULLY UTILIZE
REMOTE MEETINGS- BUT
UNFORTUNATELY AB FIVE FIVE SEVEN
AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED WOULD
PERMANENTLY ENSHRINING CODE. THE
ABILITY FOR LOCAL AGENCIES TO
HOLD TELECONFERENCE MEETINGS
WITHOUT ABIDING BY THE LONG
STANDING TRANSPARENCY
PROTECTIONS OF THE BROWN ACT
UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES
RELATED TO. STATE OF EMERGENCIES
OR SOCIAL DISTANCING. WHICH
EXTENDS A SCHEME CREEDON LAW
ONLY A COUPLE YEARS AGO AS PART
OF THE RAPID RESPONSE TO COVET
NINETEEN. TO KEEP GOVERNMENT
FUNCTIONING AND EAT THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER AS WELL AS AB
THREE SIX ONE WHICH PROCEEDS
THIS BILL WERE REALLY CREATED
WITH COVERT IN MIND- AND SO THE
REFERENCE OF RECOMMENDING SOCIAL
DISTANCING MEASURES. IS REALLY
REALLY WITH THAT FRAME OF
REFERENCE- WELL UNDER THE UNDER
AB FIVE FIVE SEVEN THE FIRST
TELECONFERENCE MEETING HELD
UNDER THIS SCHEME. DOES HAVE TO
BE HELD DURING A SPECIFIED KIND
OF EMERGENCY THE JURISDICTION
CAN CONTINUE TO MEET REMOTELY
ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE
TRANSPARENCY SAFEGUARDS OF THE
BROWN ACT. EVEN AFTER THE STATE
OF EMERGENCY IS NO LONGER ACTIVE
IF THE LOCAL JURISDICTION IS
RECOMMENDING SOCIAL DISTANCING
MEASURES. AND INCOMING CALLS AS
RESEARCH WE WERE NOT ABLE TO
FIND EITHER A DEFINITION OF
SOCIAL DISTANCING IN CODE. OR
ANY REGULATIONS- BY A STATE
AGENCY TO WHY AND WHY WOULD BE A
PER. FOR A LOCAL JURIST. TO
RECOMMEND OR IMPOSE SOCIAL
DISTANCING MEASURES SO WHILE
THIS DID ALL MAKE SENSE TO US
WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT
COVER NINETEEN AS WERE PUTTING
THIS INTO LAW PERMANENTLY.
THERE'S REALLY NO GUARD RAILS AS
TO WHAT THAT COULD MEAN IN THE
FUTURE. THAT SAID- IN THE PAST
FEW DAYS WE HAVE HAD
CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
AUTHORS OFFICE AND- REALLY
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
COMMITMENT TODAY TO TAKING A
LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE. AND LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING- THOSE
AMENDMENTS BUT TODAY WE DO HAVE
TO REMAIN OPPOSED TO THE BILL
AND PRINT AND URGING NO VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY OR ANYONE ELSE THAT
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE- IF I
COULD TAKE A REAL QUICK BREAK IT
APPEARS THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM
SO. LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
SENATORS CABALLERO YOUR
AVAILABLE PRESENCE HERE TO THEIR
THIRD TOOK PRESENT BY
EXPERIENCE. YEAH LAKE SUPERIOR
PRESIDENT ALI THE RUSSELL HERE
TO WRESTLE PRESENT GLAZER.
GLAZER SKINNER WIENER WE HAVE A
QUORUM. QUORUM IS PRESENT THAT'S
A GOOD THING. SO- WE'RE GONNA
MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY.
CUED UP TO TESTIFY HERE IN THE
COMMITTEE TODAY. IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE PRESS
ONE TO ZERO THIS TIME. WE HAVE
FOUR Q. AT THE MOMENT WE'LL
START WITH LINE CAN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THE MORNING IN THE BALLOT
ARE QUITE A WITH THE HELP
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION IN
CALIFORNIA THE COURT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WHY NUMBER SIR PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING SYLVIA
PHILLIES SHOT HERE ON THE OF THE
CITY OF SANTA MONICA AND THE
CITY OF GALENA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. LINE TWELVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR GIVE ME MATT
ROBINSON WAS SHOT YOUR INTUITION
OLDER LANG I'LL BE OUT OF THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT ASSOCIATION
THE CEMETERY OF CITY COUNTY
ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS
CALTRAIN. THE SAN MATEO COUNTY
TRANSIT DISTRICT AND THE
MONTEREY SALINAS TRANSIT
DISTRICT ALL AND SO- THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LINE FOURTEEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THE MORNING CARE
NUMBERS PERSPECTIVE ON BEHALF OF
STOP WAIT IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE ELEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU TABLET MINDING
ABOUT OF THE AMERICAN CAL
ENGINEER COMPANIES IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. NO I NUMBER NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI GOOD MORNING
CARE MEMBERS- BUT YOU STILL GET
ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA WATER AGENCIES IN
SUPPORT. IN MEDICARE WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE IN TUITION TO SPEAK ON
THIS ITEM VERY GOOD WE'RE GOING
TO BRING THIS ITEM TO COMMITTEE
ARE THERE ARE COMMENTS QUESTIONS
OR CONCERNS. SENATOR CYR. TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR BILL ORDER
I'M I'M VERY. WARY ABOUT-
INFRINGING ON THAT FACE TO FACE
MEETING CONTACT AND THE BROWN
ACT. HOWEVER WE'VE WE'VE SEEN
SOME ACTIVITY IN THE LAST COUPLE
YEARS- THAT HAS TAUGHT US IS
SOMETIMES WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE
BIT OF FLEXIBLE. HAVE SOME
FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT WE'RE DOING-
IN ORDER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS-
THAT'S NECESSARY AND- THE
OPPONENT. POINTS OUT THAT WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOCIAL
DISTANCING REQUIREMENT REALLY
IS- THE DESIGN. YOU KNOW GOING
THROUGH THE LIST OF SOCIAL
DISTANCING ISSUES. IT'S A
PANDEMIC THAT'S ALL THAT THE
SOCIAL DISTANCING WOULD PROBABLY
BE ABLE TO BE APPLIED TO AND IF
THERE'S A PANDEMIC IN IT'S BEEN
CONSIDERED A DICK YOU KNOW
DECLARED AN EMERGENCY BY THE
GOVERNOR I THINK THAT COVERS
THAT- I DON'T SEE IT EXPANDING
BECAUSE I THINK OF ALL THE OTHER
WAS IN A WILDFIRE ALL THE OTHER
STUFF THAT. CREATES STATES OF
EMERGENCIES FLOODING AND THINGS
LIKE THAT THOSE DON'T HAVE
SOCIAL DISTANCING THINGS TO HIM
SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD.
NECESSARILY AND INFRINGE ON ON
THE BROWN ACT IN A CASE OF A
STATED. ED DECLARED NATIONAL I'M
NOT NATIONAL BUT DECLARED STATE
OF EMERGENCY- SO WE'RE GONNA
SUPPORT YOUR BILL TODAY- I THINK
I'M HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY THIS
WILL PUT TO REST. BECAUSE WE'VE
SEEN A FEW OF THESE THESE FUTURE
ATTEMPTS AT. AT ADDRESSING THIS
WITHOUT GOING TOO FAR I THINK
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES AND I
APPRECIATE THE WORK ON IT THANK
YOU. SENATOR ALSO THANK YOU
THANK YOU- JUST A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE IF
YOU. INCLUDED THIS I'M SURE IN
YOUR IN YOUR OPENING UP BUT
GOING TO THE ISSUE OF. OF THE
SOCIAL DISTANCING- THAT'S A MUCH
MUCH BROADER. DESCRIPTION OF THE
CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE SITUATION
THAN AN EMERGENCY- AND SO. CAN
YOU EXPLAIN. WHY YOU THINK IT
NEEDS SO BROAD I MEAN. I DO
THINK THAT STILL JUST SOCIAL
DISTANCING WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT
COULD BE LIKE IN THE FUTURE- AND
IT COULD BE TAKEN VERY LOOSELY.
BY LOCAL BY GOVERNMENTS THAT
DON'T WANT TO- YOU KNOW THAT
WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS
AS AN OPPORTUNITY- TO NOT FOLLOW
THE- THE- BROWN ACT. SO I'M VERY
VERY CONCERNED IT'S ONE THING TO
DO IT TEMPORARILY IT'S ONE THING
TO DO IT UNDER- EMERGENCIES BUT
IT'S ANOTHER THING TO BROADEN
ITS SO MUCH THAT. I THINK WE DO
JEOPARDIZE THE PURPOSE OF THE
PRODUCT. YOU CAN DO THAT THANK
YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND I
APPRECIATE THE CRITIQUE THAT
COMMON CAUSE OFFERED TO CLEAR TO
GET US TO CLARIFY THAT- THE BILL
WILL ONLY. TRIGGERED SOCIAL.
REMOTE TESTIMONY WHEN THERE IS
AN ACTIVE STATE OF EMERGENCY
DECLARED BY THE GOVERNOR AND I
THINK THAT WILL WILL SOLVE THE
PROBLEM AND I'M COMMITTED TO
ADDING THOSE AMENDMENTS BEFORE
THE NEXT- SENATE COMMITTEE. OF
SENATOR GLAZERS. ON THE THAT'S
LEFT ME A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED
SO- THE PROVISIONS THIS BILL NOT
APPLY IN THE CASE OF AN
EMERGENCY UNLESS THERE'S A
SOCIAL DISTANCING REQUIREMENT IS
THAT THE- MEADOW THE TRIGGER IS
THE STATE DECLARED STATE OF
EMERGENCY AND THEN THE SOCIAL
DISTANCING WILL BE A SUBSET OF
THAT IF THERE WERE DECLARED
STATE OF EMERGENCY. AND SOCIAL
DISTANCING REQUIRED THEN BOTH
WOULD BE AVAILABLE AS A REASON
BUT ONLY WHEN THERE'S AN ACTIVE
DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY HAS
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S LEAVE LIMITED
THE BILL. YES SO IF WE HAVE AN
EARTHQUAKE. YOU KNOW AND THEN
THINGS ARE NOT THE WAY WE'D LIKE
THEM TO BE AND THE ENTITY WANTS
TO HAVE A MEETING. HAS NOTHING
TO DO WITH THE PANDEMIC IS YOUR
BILL GOING TO PROVIDE THAT
FLEXIBILITY YES IT WILL BECAUSE
IT WILL BE UNDER A DECLARED
STATE OF EMERGENCY BY THE
GOVERNOR. OKAY SO AGAIN SOCIAL
DISTANCING THEN ISN'T A
LIMITATION ON THE DECLARED STATE
OF EMERGENCY PROVISIONS OF YOUR
BILL THAT'S WHAT'S AGAIN
CONFUSING ME- WELL WE'LL WE'LL
HAVE THE LANGUAGE. PRECISELY
NAIL DOWN FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE
HEARING BUT I'M COMMITTED TO
SOLVING THE PROBLEM THE COMMON
CAUSES IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY'RE
CONCERNED THAT. SOCIAL DISTANCE
SEEING OUTSIDE OF A DECLARED
STATE OF EMERGENCY WOULD BE USED
AS A REASON FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. TO MEET REMOTELY
THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE
BILL. THREE YEARS IT'S A NO ONE.
AND THE SOCIAL DISTANCE THROUGH.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT SCENARIO
AND I THINK THAT'S THE LANGUAGE
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND. OKAY HAVE
A PANDEMIC- I THINK I'M ASSUMING
THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE
DECLARED. GOVERNOR STATE OF
EMERGENCY. RIGHT TO SPEAK MY
CONCERN WOULD BE THAT YOU'D BE
AYE AYE UNDULY LIMITING YOUR
BILL BY THIS AMENDMENT THAT'S
WHAT LEAVES ME CONFUSED WE NEED
TO GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT AND
I'M COMMITTED TO DOING WELL IS
THERE A REASON THAT HOLD THIS
BILL OPEN MADAM CHAIR TO WE GET
THAT LANGUAGE. I MEAN THIS IS
LEFT ME CONFUSED I'M GENERALLY
SUPPORT OF. SELF I THINK THAT.
PRAGMATICALLY INTO PRAGMATIC IN
OUR WORLD- BUT I DON'T
UNDERSTAND THIS AMENDMENT- WITH
THREE MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMITTEE
ARI ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
WHERE THIS BILL IS GOING TO BE
HEARD NEXT SO I'VE- I'M HOPEFUL.
THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE THE
CONTINUITY AND- CERTAINTY THAT
THE BILL'S GOING TO BE WHAT YOU
NEED TO BE WELL I'M NOT A MEMBER
OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. CELL
MAY BE CLEAR ON THAT AND SO I AM
SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING BUT
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS ABOUT.
AND MAYBE CAN BE EXPLAINED AGAIN
MORE CLEARLY TO ME. THAT IT
DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THE BODY
OF THIS BILL. IT JUST HANDLES
THE SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A
HEALTH EMERGENCY THAT'S NOT IT
THE CLERK AT THE RATIO OF
EMERGENCY- THAT SOMEHOW SOCIAL
DISTANCING. IS REQUIRED UNDER
THAT. HEALTH EMERGENCY. THAT THE
PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL WOULD
ALLOW THE BODY TO HAVE THAT IN
PLACE. THESE. PROVISIONS IS THAT
I MEAN. WELL I'D I'D I WANT A
REAL ON WITH AUTHOR. HE SAID
BECAUSE MY UNDER. OF IT. IS THAT
IT TO THEIR IT IS IT THERE'S-
POP. TO HAVE A TWO PER BUT IF
THAT TO. STATE OF EMERGENCY YOU
CAN MEET. AND THEN SECONDARILY-
I DON'T THINK THE- THE SOCIAL
DISTANCING ADDS ANYTHING TO IT.
QUITE FRANKLY BECAUSE IT HAS TO
BE AN ACTIVE. RIGHT BUT IT'S NOT
A LIMITATION ON WHAT THE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL ARE WHICH
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF. NO IT'S NOT
AS I READ IT IT'S NOT VERY GOOD
THANK YOU. THIRD LIKE SIR. WELL
THANK YOU ASSEMBLY MEMBER I
THINK THIS IS A GOOD BILL EXCEPT
FOR THIS LITTLE CONFUSION RIGHT
HERE. I MEAN TO ME IT SEEMS AS
SIMPLE AS JUST TO ELIMINATE
SOCIAL DISTANCING COMPLETELY
FROM DISCUSSION. SO JUST TO SAY
THAT IT ALLOWS TELECONFERENCING
DURING AN ACTIVE STATE OF
EMERGENCY. AND HAVE IT BE. AFTER
THAT OR WHAT WHAT WOULD BE YOUR
RESPONSE TO THAT. I THINK THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP. OKAY
OKAY THAT SEEMS MUCH SIMPLER
BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON TO GO
OFF INTO THAT THAT OTHER
UNNECESSARY REDUNDANCY. OKAY GOT
WHY OTHERWISE I LIKE THE BILL.
SO THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER
COMMENTS QUESTIONS. THANK YOU
AYE ACTUALLY AYE AYE HE'S LATER
AYE MAYBE FROM THE- THROUGH. ON
EXTRA SKEPTICAL. OF CREATING
BROAD PERMANENT- REMOTE. PUBLIC
MEETING- FOR PUBLIC BODIES
PUBLIC MEETING AUTHORIZATION FOR
PUBLIC BODIES BECAUSE I THINK
IT. SIGNIFICANTLY DEGRADES THE
PUBLIC. PROCESS AND THERE WAS A
BILL ON THE FLOOR- LAST WEEK OR
TWO AGO THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT
ALL. ALL SPORTS BECAUSE I
TOTALLY AGREE IF THERE'S A STATE
OF EMERGENCY WE SHOULD HAVE. THE
FLEXIBILITY BUT IT SHOULD BE
STRICTLY LIMITED TO A STATE OF
EMERGENCY IN SOME. OF SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY AND- BE ON THE
LOOKOUT FOR THAT TYPE OF
LANGUAGE AND JUDICIARY. ALL OF
THE BILL. THERE IS A PROMOTION-
AND AT FOR MY PURSE BECAUSE I'VE
BEEN- I'VE DURING. US WIENER IN
IN THE SKY- I APPRECIATE. THE
NEED AND I REALLY APPRECIATED
THE TESTIMONY FROM THE- CUT THAT
THE WITNESS FROM SANTA CRUZ-
THAT. ON REALLY UNPRECEDENTED-
RAINFALL- CREATED HAVOC IN A WAY
THAT WE WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE-
ROADS WASHED OUT- IN A REAL
DANGER TO THE PUBLIC WE WOULDN'T
WANT THEM ON THE ROAD TRYING TO
GET TO A MEETING- AND SO IT'S
NECESSARY I THINK TO HAVE. THE
ABILITY TO MEET REMOTELY WHEN
THERE IS AN ACTIVE STATE OF
EMERGENCY I JUST THINK THE
QUESTION'S GOING TO BE- WEEK
BECAUSE WE HAVE A STATE OF
EMERGENCY STILL IN PLACE FOR A
WHOLE BUNCH OF. OTHER EVENTS
THAT HAPPENED A NUMBER OF YEARS
AGO AND I WOULDN'T WANT. LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TO THINK WELL YOU
KNOW WHAT IT'S STILL A STATE OF
EMERGENCY I'M SO WE DON'T NEED
TO MEET IN PERSON AND I. HAVING
SERVED FOR FIFTEEN YEARS AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENT- THE BENEFITS
OF MAKING A DECISION IN PUBLIC.
FACE TO FACE WITH PEOPLE WHO MAY
AGREE WITH YOU ARE OR MAY NOT.
ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE
SOLUTION- GIVEN THE DIFFICULT
ISSUE- IT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE
PEOPLE IN THE SAME ROOM TALKING
TO EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO WORK
THINGS OUT AND SO- I REALLY- I'M
A MUCH. BIGGER PROPONENT OF IT
NOW THAT I'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN YOU DO TELECONFERENCING-
THERE'S A CERTAIN DISTANCE
THAT'S CREATED WHEN YOU'RE ON AS
SOON CALL THAT YOU JUST CAN'T
YOU DON'T SEE PEOPLE'S BODY
LANGUAGE IT'S EASY TO. TURN OFF
THE THEIR VIDEO AND GO GET A CUP
OF COFFEE AND WE WOULDN'T WANT
PEOPLE TREATING- REALLY
IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT DECISIONS
AND IN THAT WAY SO- I MEAN IS
SUPPORT YOUR BILL I THINK IT
IT'S GOT. THAT ANY. ANY
AMENDMENT TO DO I'M WE'LL TAKE A
LOOK AT THEM VERY VERY CAREFULLY
AND I WILL RESERVE THE RIGHT TO
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE IF WE
FEEL THAT IT- DEVIATES FROM WHAT
WE THINK WE'RE WE'RE PASSING
HERE TODAY- CENTER. GLAZER YET
JERRY I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE
THERE'S NO CONFUSION THE SENATOR
FROM SAN FRANCISCO I THINK. IT
IMPLICATION THAT DIDN'T I DON'T
THINK APPLY TO MY COMMENTS AND
IT IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF.
AFFAIRS I SUPPORT THE BROWN ACT
OF COURSE AND THE REQUIREMENTS
OF THE BROWN ACT WE'RE ONLY
TALKING ABOUT THIS NARROW FRAME
OF THE IN EMERGENCY. ONLY IN A
STATE OF EMERGENCY EARTHQUAKE A
PANDEMIC WHATEVER IT IS. TO
ALLOW THESE PROVISIONS AS NOTED
IN THE BILL TO UP TO BE AN
OPERATIVE AND THAT UNDER THOSE
NARROW CIRCUMSTANCES WHY I'VE
SUPPORT OF THE BILL NOT. FOR ANY
OTHER REASON THAT SOMEHOW I
WANNA A ROTOR UNDER CUT. THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE PRODUCT.
CORRECT I I'M AYE I MISSED SO
GRACE COMMA BEFORE ALTHOUGH
THING I WANNA. BRING UP THAT THE
CHAIR IS MEANT BECAUSE IT IS A
GOOD POINT TO THERE ARE. STATES
MEMBERS. THAT LAST FOR VERY LONG
TIME AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF IT
BUT- YOU KNOW. WHILE AND OTHER-
AND SO I- HAVE YOU. CONTEMPLATE
HOW ABOUT WHAT IMPACT THIS IF
YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE STATES
FROM BURDENS IS WHERE THERE'S-
IT'S REALLY NO LONGER. NOT A
HINDRANCE FOR PEOPLE TO. TO MEET
BUT IT'S STILL TECHNICALLY ON
THE BOOKS BECAUSE IT TRIGGERS
FEDERAL AID. OR WHATEVER LIKE
WHAT WHAT'S YOUR THINKING ON ON
THAT- I THINK THE PROTECTION IS
THE GOVERNOR'S DECLARED STATE OF
EMERGENCY WHICH GENERALLY IS
MUCH MORE LIMITED THE LOCAL
DECLARED EMERGENCIES I THINK OF
THE THINGS THAT HAVE LASTED
LONGER I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE
THAT. GOVERNOR DECLARED
EMERGENCIES LINGER TO THAT SAME
DAY ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT TRUE- WE
HAVE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FIRES
THAT HAPPENED EIGHT YEARS AGO.
THAT ARE CURRENTLY. ON THE BOOKS
AS EMERGENCIES- PROBABLY CLOSE
TO SIXTY FIVE OR SO AS FOR YOU
THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT IT-
AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE-
THEY DON'T GET CLOSED OUT UNTIL.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. DOES
SOMETHING MEMBER NOT SURE WITH
THAT. CERTIFIES IT IT'S DONE OR
THEY PAY OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT SO- THAT IS AN ISSUE THIS
IS GOING TO BE GOING TO
JUDICIARY AND WE MAY JUST KEY IT
AS- AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO
FIGURE OUT THE- SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE BECAUSE HE- I THINK THE
AMENDMENT THAT. WAS REFERENCED
WAS AN ACTIVE STATE OF EMERGENCY
BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A
LEGAL TERM THAT. WILL BE EASILY
. I BY THE LAW GUY. AND BY
PUBLIC. BURKE I JUST WANTED TO
ADD VOICE TO SUPPORT THE ROUTE
THIS- THE ALL MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
SAID HERE THAT. THERE THERE IS A
VERY REAL RISK OF- PEOPLE IN
THESE POSITIONS- TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO
STAY. REMOTE AND I. I. X. FEEL
LIKE THAT HAPPENED IN MY COUNTY.
AROUND THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE
COULD GO BACK OR TO THE COULD
STAY REMOTE SOME REALLY DECIDED
TO STAY REMOTE TO THE VERY LAST
SECOND THAT THEY- COULDN'T EVEN
WHEN THE DRIVE WAS SHORT THERE
IS REALLY NO ONGOING RISK. THERE
COULD BE- PROTECTIONS THAT WERE
PUT IN PLACE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE FELT
SAFE BUT- SO I'M I AM CONCERNED
ABOUT THIS- SOMEHOW BECOMING
ABUSED AS WELL ESPECIALLY FOR
GOVERNOR STATE OF EMERGENCY DOES
END UP LASTING YEARS FOR
SOMETHING LIKE A STATEWIDE.
WILDFIRE I DON'T I CAN'T THINK
OF WHAT THE LIMITATION LIMITING
FACTOR WOULD BE AN BUT HOPEFULLY
AT THE- JUDICIARY COMMITTEE THAT
CAN BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE I DO
THINK THAT THAT'S- SOMETHING
THAT REALLY SHOULD BE THOUGHT
ABOUT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
COMMENTS. IF NOT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
YOU MAY CONCLUDE BY VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND WILL
WORK DILIGENTLY TO ADDRESS THEM
BEFORE- TO GET TO SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE BY
RESPECTFULLY. REQUEST AN AYE
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MOTION IS
TO PASS TO THE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY SENATOR CABALLERO HI
CABALLERO I. TWO SARATOGA I
EXPERIENCE HI LAKE SUPERIOR HI
DOLLY. DRESS DRESSEL I CLEAN.
GLAZER AYE SKIN. WIENER HI
WIENER I. SIX ZERO. SIX ZERO
THAT ON FOR ABSENT. MEMBERS
MEMBERS- ALL INNER A MOTION ON
THE CONSENT. AGENDA ITEMS. THERE
IS A MOTION. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL CONSENTED ITEMS. MOTION IS
ATOP THE CONSENT CALENDAR
SENATORS CABALLERO Y. COMING AT
ALL I SEE ARE TO. SCARED TO- I
PLAY EXPERIENCE. LEG SPINNER I.
WRESTLE THE REST SO I. GLAZER
AYE SKIN. WIENER I WIENER I AM.
SIX ZERO. WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL
AS WELL. THAT BILL IS OUT. ON
THREE THE AGENDA. OKAY WE CAN
ALSO IN MORE AND FILE AT NUMBER
. ONE AB THERE IS A MOTION
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CAN I GET- I SAY
ARE TOO SCARED TO A LAKE
SUPERIOR LEG I. GRASSO DRESS SO
I A CLAY. CLAY ICE. WIENER HI
WIENER I IS. THE BILL IS I WILL
PUT ON CALL AS WHAT WE'RE UP
FIFTH FILE ITEM SO. AB NINE NINE
BY PELLERIN WELCOME. WE WILL.
IT'S WORKING GOOD MORNING. SO
THE MIKES ARE HIGH YOU DON'T
NEED TO KEEP A TO TOUCH THEM A
LOT BECAUSE THE BILL BE ADDRESS
SO JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE- IS
CONTROLLED UNDER MOVING IN A LOT
AND IT'S NOT NICE. OKAY THANK
YOU SO MUCH I I'D LIKE TO BEGIN
BY THANKING THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR TAKING THE
TIME AND CONSIDERATION THEY HAVE
DEDICATED TO THIS BILL AB NINE
THREE NINE IS A DISTRICT BILL
THAT UPDATES THE STATE LAW THAT
APPLIES ONLY TO THE SANTA CLARA
VALLEY WATER DISTRICT ALSO KNOWN
AS VALLEY WATER. THE AGENCY IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR REGIONAL WATER
SUPPLY GROUND WATER MANAGEMENT
FLOOD PROTECTION AND
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP OF
STREAMS FOR THE TWO MILLION
PEOPLE OF THE SET OF SANTA CLARA
COUNTY. THIS BILL UPDATES
ANTIQUATED LIMITS ON BOND
ISSUANCE THAT FORCED VALLEY
WATER TO FIND OUT SOME OF THE
LARGEST WATER SUPPLY AND FLOOD
PROTECTION PROJECTS IN THE
STATE. USING COSTLY CONTRACTUAL
BORROWING RATHER THAN ISSUING
WATER SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS OR
GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. AB
NINE THREE NINE SIX IS DALY
WATERS REVENUE BONDS AUTHORITY
ALLOWING THE AGENCY TO ISSUE
REVENUE BONDS BASED ON THE NET
REVENUE OF THEIR WATER SYSTEM.
WHICH IS FAVORED BY BOND MARKETS
AND IS IN THE INTEREST OF WATER
RATEPAYERS. THE BILL ALSO
AUTHORIZES VALLEY WATER PROPOSED
GENERAL OBLIGATION. I SHOWED
THRESHOLD WOULD STILL APPLY IN
THERE BY LEADING A SUPERMAJORITY
OF VOTERS DECIDE IF WATER SUPPLY
AND FLOOD PROTECTION PROJECTS
SHOULD BE PAID THROUGH GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS. THESE BONDS
FORMS WILL SAVE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AND UNNECESSARY
FINANCING COSTS JUST BY GIVING
VALLEY WATER THE SAME BOND
AUTHORITY THAT OTHER REGIONAL
WATER AGENCIES LIKE THE
METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT
ALREADY HAVE. THE BILL WOULD
ALSO REMOVE THE SUNSET DATE ON
CURRENT LAW ALLOWING UP TO
FIFTEEN A COMPENSABLE MEETING
DAYS PER MONTH FOR THE VALLEY
WATER BOARD. IF THE BOARD
MEMBERS DON'T WORK THE DAYS THEY
DON'T GET THEIR PER DIEM HOWEVER
THAT RECORD SHOWS BOARD MEMBERS
DO WORK FIFTEEN DAYS AND OFTEN
MANY MORE. AGAIN AB NINE THREE
NINE ONLY MAINTAINS THE PER DIEM
AT ITS CURRENT LEVEL I HAVE TWO
WITNESSES TO OFFER BRIEF
TESTIMONY ANTONIO ALFARO IS THE
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS MANAGER FOR
VALLEY WATER. AND DOUG BROWN IS
THE BOND COUNSEL CRIVELLI WATER
. I COULD NOT. MADAM CHAIRMAN OF
THE AND FARGAS RELATION MANAGER
FOR VALLEY WATER. AB NINETY NINE
REMOVES DATE ON THE EXISTING LAW
PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW FIFTEEN
COMPENSABLE MEETING DAYS PER
MONTH. EACH OF OUR SEVEN ELECTED
BOARD MEMBERS REPRESENTS
APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND PEOPLE
MAKE MULTI BILLION DOLLAR WATER
SUPPLY AND FLOOD PROTECTION.
INFRASTRUCTURE DECISIONS THESE
ARE BIG JOBS AND UNLIKE OTHER
BOARDS OR DIRECTORS ARE NOT
MAYORS. COUNTY SUPERVISORS WERE
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH
COMPENSATION FROM OTHER
GOVERNMENTAL ROLES. BUT KEEP IN
THE MODEST PER DIEM IN CURRENT
LAW AB NINE THREE NINE WILL
ENABLE A MORE SOCIALLY ECONOMIC
DIVERSE BOARD. AND ALLOW MORE
PEOPLE TO AFFORD TO SERVE ON OUR
BOARD INCLUDING PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND THOSE OF DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. VALLEY WATERS ON
THE FRONT LINES OF CLIMATE
CHANGE ADAPTATION AND IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR SILICON VALLEY'S
DEFENSE AGAINST EXTENDED DROUGHT
. BROWN WATER OVER DRAFT INTO.
URBAN FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL
RISE. AB NINETY NINE PROVIDES
NEW OPTIONS TO FINANCE THESE
PROJECTS AND WILL HELP VALLEY
WATER KEEP WATER RATES MORE
AFFORDABLE FOR LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR FAVOR. THANK THANK YOU
. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME'S DOUG BROWN I
MADE BY AN ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW
FIRM OF STRADDLING ACROSS AND
RALPH AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING
VALLEY WATER. THE FINANCING
PROVISIONS OF THE UC SANTA CLARA
VALLEY WATER DISTRICT ACT- HAVE
NOT BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REVISE IN
MANY DECADES. WHILE THE DISTRICT
ACT DOES ALLOW VALLEY WATER
ISSUE REVENUE BONDS THE ACT
REQUIRES DEBT SERVICE ON THOSE
BONDS TO BE PAID PRIOR. TO THE
DISTRICT'S OWN A WOULD HAVE
EXPENSES A. B. NINE THIRTY NINE
WOULD PERMIT VALLEY WATER TO
ISSUE REVENUE BONDS PAYABLE
AFTER IT PAYS ITS OPERATION AND
MAINTENANCE COSTS. WHICH IS
CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT BOND
MARKET PREFERENCES AND OTHER
BORROWINGS BY THE AGENCY. LIKE
OTHER REGIONAL WATER AGENCIES
VALLEY WATER BELIEVES IT SHOULD
BE ABLE TO PROPOSED TO THE
VOTERS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS
WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A TWO THIRDS
VOTER APPROVAL. AB NINE THIRTY
NINE WOULD PROVIDE VALLEY WATER
WITH THAT AUTHORITY BUT WOULD
NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH PROP
THIRTEEN. THE DISTRICT I ACT
ALSO INCLUDES A SHORT TERM DEBT
CAP OF JUST EIGHT MILLION
DOLLARS WHICH IS QUITE SMALL FOR
AN AGENCY WITH ANNUAL REVENUES
EXCEEDING. HALF A BILLION
DOLLARS. THIS BILL WOULD
AUTHORIZE VALLEY WATER TO ISSUE
SHORT TERM DEBT IN AMOUNTS
CONSISTENT. WITH THE OTHER SHORT
TERM DEBT STATUTES THAT ARE
GENERALLY. APPLICABLE TO PUBLIC
AGENCIES- VALLEY WATER. AND I'VE
- VERY MUCH IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
WOULD LIKE TO. IN SUPPORT IN
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. IS
THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SEE- TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS. BILL THING THEN WE'LL MOVE
ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
AND ASK THE MODERATOR IF THERE'S
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION ON THE
TELECONFERENCING. TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. TWO
EIGHTY NINE THREE NINE PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME
. AND WE HAVE- COMMENT FROM A
LINE NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. THAT
MORNING CHAIRED MEMBERS RICHARD
STILL GET- I'LL BE HAPPY
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE NO
FURTHER COMMENT AT THIS TIME
THANK YOU VERY MUCH- SOMEONE MAY
HAVE WALKED IN IT WANTED TO
TESTIFY BUT JUST DIDN'T MOVE
FAST ENOUGH. COME ON BOARD DON'T
BE SHY PAULA MADAME PROBLEM.
MARK THAT WHILE WITH THE CAL
SPECIAL ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE. K. WILL
BRING YOU BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR QUESTIONS CONCERNS CENTER
BREAKS HER. THANK YOU ASSEMBLY
MEMBER- HOW MUCH IS THE
COMPENSATION FOR ONE DAY. I'M
NOT SURE THAT DOORS AT ONE
MEETING OR HOW DOES THE
COMPENSATION FOR BY ITS BY DAY.
IT'S BY DAY- NINETY DAY THAT. IS
THE BOTTOM GET. THREE SIXTY
DOLLARS. THREE IS A ZERO DOLLARS
OKAY SO I MEAN FOR FIFTY DAYS OF
WAR IS THREE WEEKS OF WORK THREE
TIMES FIVE IS FIFTEEN RIGHT SO
ARE THESE PEOPLE BAY ARE THEY
DOING THIS AS THEIR FULL TIME
JOB. ESSENTIALLY OUR AGENCY
BOARD MEMBERS WORK- WHAT AMOUNTS
TO A FULL TIME JOB WE ARE A- A
WATER SUPPLY AGENCY FLOOD
CONTROL AGENCY WITH GROUND WATER
MANAGEMENT WERE OTHER FEDERAL
AND STATE WATER CONTRACTOR- WE
HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES.
ARE SEVERAL MULTI BILLION DOLLAR
PROJECTS AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS
ARE. CONSTANTLY BUSY HOW MANY
BOARD MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE SEVEN.
OKAY IT'S THE IT THAT SEEMS TO
ME LIKE A STEEP RATE. THREE AND
SIXTY FIVE DOLLARS FOR BOARD
MEMBERS I MEAN EVEN PEOPLE WHO
ARE ON CITY COUNCILS ARE NOT.
DON'T WORK FULL TIME IN SPACE IT
IN MANY CITIES IN THE STATE- SO
YEAH I'M AT THIS IS A MONTH TO
ABOUT SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND
DOLLARS A YEAR AT MAXIMUM IF THE
BOARD MEMBERS WORK OFF FIFTEEN
DAYS FOR THE MONTH. AND HOW HOW
ARE THE BOARD MEMBERS CHOSEN YOU
SAID THEY'RE NOT ELECTED
OFFICIALS. IN OFFICIALS BUT IT
YEAH OKAY THEY'RE NOT BUT
THEY'RE NOT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
ARE MAYORS CORRECT YES OKAY.
OKAY THIS IS REMOVE THE SUNSET
OF THAT PROVISION. RIGHT SO THIS
ARE MAKING FIVE THOUSAND FOUR
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT WORK
OUT TO FOR THE MONTH. OKAY OKAY
THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS. THAT WAS
SO I HAVE A QUESTION- IN REGARDS
TO THAT TO THE- TO THE QUESTIONS
THAT WERE ASKED FROM YOU
INDICATED THAT PART OF THE
REASON THAT IT SET UP THIS WAY
IS- TO. ENCOURAGE MEMBERS FROM
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES TO
PARTICIPATE AS WELL. AND YOU
HAVE ANYBODY ON YOUR BOARD THAT
SAYS THAT YOU WOULD CLASSIFIER
OR WOULD SAY IS A MEMBER OF A
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY. FROM
SANTA CLARA- WE HAVE SEVERAL
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT ARE-
OF DEFINITE DIFFERENT ETHNIC
BACKGROUNDS AND FROM DIFFERENT
COMMUNITIES LIKE- ALL VISA AND
IN THE SOUTH BAY WHICH YOU KNOW
IS REPRESENTATIVE. OF A LOW LOW
INCOME DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY-
YOU KNOW. WE HAVE. SEVERAL
MEMBERS ARE LATINO SOME SOME
MEMBERS ARE DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS- THE COMPENSATION
PIECE. WITH WITHOUT ALL THE
FIFTEEN DAY AUTHORIZATION WOULD
AMOUNT TO ABOUT FORTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS A YEAR WHICH IN SILICON
VALLEY IN ST CLAIR COUNTY
DOESN'T GO VERY FAR AT ALL IT
WOULD BE SEVERELY LOW INCOME-
AND- ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE
CONVERSATION IS MEANT TO DO IS
TO. ALLOW THOSE THAT ARE
INTERESTED TO POTENTIALLY RUN
FOR OFFICE AND REPRESENT THEIR
COMMUNITIES. TO MAYBE BE ABLE TO
DO THAT ONDER STILL VERY LOW
SALARY IN COMPARISON WITH. OTHER
PARTICULAR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN
THE COUNTY- BUT IT THE- THE
INTENT IS TO- SUPPORT PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO RUN FOR
OFFICE UNDERSTOOD YET WE USE YOU
INDICATED DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT THERE ACTUALLY ARE
PEOPLE FROM DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND I'M VERY
FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE SO AND SO.
THAT MAKES ME FEEL MORE
COMFORTABLE CENTER GLAZER- AND
AGAIN THIS IS AN INCREASING THE
NUMBER THIS IS JUST TAKING OFF
THE SUNSET RIGHT BUT WAS THERE
ANY REVIEW BY STAFF OR ARE ARE
COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS IN TERMS
OF HOW THE COMPENSATION FOR THE
SPORT RELATES TO OTHERS.
CONSISTENCY OF SURPRISE ME-
THAT- WATER BOARD WOULD MEET
THIS OFTEN AND HAS THIS LEVEL OF
COMPENSATION VERSUS A VOLUNTEER
PART TIME JOB WHICH I THINK IT
IS IN MOST IN MANY PLACES SO IS
THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS TO
EXAMINE. WITH THIS IS THAT OUT
OF THE ORDINARY. I BELIEVE THAT-
I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THE EVER
THIS OF WATER BUT BOARD
DISTRICTS FOR. WHICH IS WHY YOU
COULD YOU WOULD COMPARE TO THE
WATER DISTRICTS HAVE A MAXIMUM
OF TEN DAYS THIS IS THIS IS A TO
MY KNOWLEDGE THE ONLY ONE THAT
HAS A MAXIMUM OF FIFTEEN DAYS.
RIVALS SUCH AS THE MAXIMUM IT'S
AMOUNT OF ACTUAL MEETINGS THAT
ARE TAKING PLACE RIGHT. I MEAN I
THINK IT'S ON THE WATER BOARDS
IN MY AREA THAT HAVE
SUBSTANTIAL. RESPONSIBILITIES
AND I CAN'T I I'LL HAVE TO
CHECK. TO SEE IT BUT I AM I AM
UNCOMFORTABLE. HEARING THIS
TESTIMONY- AND THE FEEDBACK
ABOUT THAT THE AMOUNT THAT THAT
IS BEING PAID SO. THEY GIVEN
THAT LEICESTER'S FURTHER
ESCALATION I THINK I'LL STAY OFF
THE BILL TODAY. VERY GOOD.
SENATE WIENER. THANK YOU YEAH I
DON'T KNOW THERE'S BEEN A OUT OF
THE THERE IS NOT I MOVE THE
BILL. I THE- IN TERMS OF THE
REMOVE THE SUN ON THE COMPENSATE
I- THERE IS THIS- A VERY. HIGHLY
OUTDATED CERTAIN. CENTURY VIEW
THAT ANYONE ELECTED OFFICE LIKE.
OF WEALTHY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO
DOES THIS ON THE SITE IS LIKE A-
YOU KNOW GENTLEMAN FARMER WHO-
YOU KNOW. DOES IT ON THE SITE
DOESN'T YOU KNOW CAN BE PAID A
HUNDRED DOLLARS A MEETING OR OR
WHATEVER AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE
REALITY OF THE WORLD AND IF WE
WANT. PEOPLE TO SERVE IN ELECTED
OFFICE IN THIS IS NOT IF YOU'RE
DOING FIFTEEN DAYS A MONTH
THAT'S LIKE THREE QUARTERS OF A
FULL TIME. YOU KNOW. JOB THAT'S
YOU KNOW AND- YOU KNOW WE'VE
WE'VE BEEN WHEN I MOVED TO SAN
FRANCISCO THE SAN FRANCISCO
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND
SUPERVISORS WERE PAID TWENTY
FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS. A YEAR
UNDER THIS AGAIN THIS OUTDATED
NOTION THAT. IN AND- AND IT
REALLY. EXCLUDES SO MANY PEOPLE
FROM PUBLIC SERVICE AND THIS IS
A HUGE AGENCY WRITES. OUT LIKE A
MICRO WATER IT'S A MASSIVE. IT
AND SO I ALL IN. MAY SURE. YOU
KNOW LOOK ELECTED TO- R. P. I
MEAN YOU LOOK AT SCHOOL BOARD
MEMBERS. AND WHAT WHAT WHAT
SCHOOL WARM THE- SCORE MEMBERS.
WORK SO HARD INSTANCE SHOW MUCH
SO MANY HOURS. AND TODAY I MEAN
ARE GETTING HORRIBLY HARASSED
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED GLENDALE LAST
NIGHT I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL
SORTS OF. RIGHT WING EXTREMISM.
AND THEY AND THEY SHOULD BE PAID
MORE TOO SO I THINK A LOT OF
THESE LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS.
ARE ARE VERY UNDERPAID AND SO I
SUPPORT THIS HAPPEN ABOUT. THERE
IS A MOTION OTHER COMMENTS.
QUESTIONS IF NOT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WILL ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE. SO
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AND
LIKE I SAID THIS IS JUST
REMOVING THE SUNSET ON THE
COMPENSATION. AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE ON THIS SMART
FINANCING MEASURE FOR LOVE WATER
VALLEY WATER THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU- PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
SENATE FLOOR SENATORS CABALLERO
HI CABALLERO I SEE ARE TOO. HIGH
THERE ARE TWO AYE BLAKE'S BEER.
LAKE SUPERIOR AYE DOLLY THE
RUSSELL. DID ALSO I GLAZER.
SKINNER WIENER. WIENER I AM. BY
THE ZERO. THANK THAT THAT BILL
IS I WILL PUT IT ON ON CALL.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD AN
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. K. AT THE NEXT
STEP IS- ASSEMBLY MEMBER
FRIEDMAN I DON'T SEE HER HERE SO
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THIS ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WHAT. I. WELCOME GOOD
MORNING MADAM. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS I'D TO START
BY THANKING THE COMMITTEE FOR
THEIR WORK ON THIS BILL. AB
TWELVE FIFTY SIX WOULD AUTHORIZE
THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS TO IMPOSE A
TRANSITION AND USE TAX FOR THE
SUPPORT OF COUNTY Y.
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS AT A
RATE OF NO MORE THAN ONE
PERCENT. IF AN ORDINANCE
PROPOSING THE TAX IS APPROVED BY
THE VOTERS. EARLIER THIS YEAR
THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS VOTED TO APPROVE A
RESOLUTION ASKING THE STATE
LEGISLATURE TO PASS A BILL
ALLOWING THE COUNTY. TO PUT A
PROPOSED ROADS TAX ON THE LOCAL
BALLOT THAT IF APPROVED BY
VOTERS WOULD SURPASS THE 2%
LIMIT CALIFORNIA HAS ON COMBINED
LOCAL TRANSACTION AND USE TAXES.
HUMBOLDT COUNTY WHICH IS
RECOVERING FROM RECENT NATURAL
DISASTERS NEEDS LEGISLATION DUE
TO PARTS OF THE KING OF THE CITY
COUNTY PARTNERSHIP HAVING
REACHED THEIR LIMIT WITH RESPECT
TO HOW HIGH CERTAIN TAXES GO.
WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL IS SUPERVISOR-
MICHELLE BUSH NOW FROM HUMBLE
COUNTY. WELCOME. IF YOU COULD
SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT
LOUDER I THINK THAT MAKES
USUALLY PRETTY HIGH. OR MAYBE WE
NEED SOMEBODY TO. TURN THE MIGHT
WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TRY IT
AGAIN. GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT THAT
CURRENT ECONOMIC SITUATION THE
STATE AND COUNTY IS UNCERTAIN
AND INFLUX THE COUNTY OF HUMBLE
HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS
THE NEEDS OF ITS REGION I
COMMUNITIES. ESPECIALLY IN THE
FACE OF EMERGENCIES AND NATURAL
DISASTERS COLLABORATION WITH
MUNICIPALITIES IS ESSENTIAL TO
EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF
RESIDENTS BUSINESSES AND
STAKEHOLDERS REGARDLESS OF
ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. THE COUNTY
OF HUMBLE HAS EXPERIENCED
ONGOING FUNDING CHALLENGES AND
MEETING ESSENTIAL NEEDS. NATURAL
CATASTROPHIC SUCH AS EARTHQUAKES
. STORM DAMAGE SUDDEN SNOWBIRDS
SNOW STORMS AND FLOODING HAVE
AFFECTED THE COUNTY AND ITS
CITIES AND- UNINCORPORATED
UNINCORPORATED REGION'S.
RECOVERY FROM THE CATASTROPHIC
IS ONGOING AND PROPER PLANNING
AND RESPONSIBILITY ARE NECESSARY
TO ADDRESS FUTURE NEEDS. LOCALLY
CONTROLLED SOURCES OF FUNDING
ARE ESSENTIAL LONG TERM FISCAL
SUSTAINABILITY STRATEGIES FOR
MEETINGS AND ADDRESSING LOCAL
NEEDS PRESERVING FLEXIBILITY TO
AUGMENT OR EXPAND LOCAL SALES
TAX FUNDING OPTIONS AS
NECESSARY. TIM EXCUSE ME TO
ADDRESS SAFETY AND
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS CALIFORNIA
REVENUE AND TAXATION CODE SEVEN
TWO FIVE ONE POINT ONE AND SEVEN
TWO EIGHT FIVE POINT THREE LIMIT
LIMIT COMBINED DISTRICT TAX
RATES IN ANY COUNTY TWO TWO
PERCENT. THE CITY OF EUREKA HAS
ALREADY REACHED THE MAXIMUM.
RATE ALLOWABLE UNDER CURRENT
CODES EUREKA IS HALF OF OUR
LOCAL TAX BASE AND A COUNTY WIDE
MEASURE WOULD NOT MAKE FISCAL
SENSE IF IT DOES NOT APPLY TO
EUREKA. THIS BILL IS NEEDED IN
ORDER TO APPLY ANY NEW VOTER
APPROVED TAX TO THE CITY OF
EUREKA WITHOUT ENABLING
LEGISLATION TO ALLOW VOTER
APPROVED ORDINANCE TO EXCEED THE
CURRENT STATE LIMIT SALES TAX
RATE IN OUR COUNTY IT WOULD NOT
BE POSSIBLE TO EXPAND. THESE
CREDIT THAT'S CRITICAL LOCAL
FUNDING SOURCE AND OUR REGION.
AB TWO FIVE. EXCUSE ME ONE TWO
FIVE SIX HAS SO FAR PASSED
ASSEMBLY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS APRIL
NINETEENTH ASSEMBLY REVENUE AND
TAXATION COMMITTEE MONDAY MAY
FIRST ASSEMBLY FLOOR SESSION
MONDAY MAY FIFTEENTH. ENABLING
WAS LEGISLATION TO ALLOW A VOTER
APPROVED ORDINANCE TO EXCEED THE
CURRENT STATE LIMIT SALES TAX
RATE HUMBOLDT COUNTY IS
NECESSARY TO EXPAND CRITICAL
LOCAL FUNDING SOURCES IN THE
REGION. WITH AVAILABILITY OF
LOCAL FUNDING HUMBOLDT WILL HAVE
MORE EVENT AVAILABLE. BILL IDEA
TO REPAIR OUR DETERRENT
DETERRENT IN ROADS BETTER
RESPONSE TO EMERGENCY AND
NATURAL DISASTERS LIKE FLOODS
STORMS AND EARTHQUAKES AVAIL
OURSELVES OF MORE STATE AND
FEDERAL FUNDING TO ADDRESS LOCAL
NEEDS. AND I- DID NOT INTEREST
MYSELF MITCHELL PERSONAL NICE TO
MEET YOU. OKAY IS THERE ANYONE
ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO- TESTIFY
SUPPORT. SEEING NO MOVEMENT IS
THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. SINGMAN WILL GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. OUT MISTER
MODERATOR FEW COULD QUEUE UP.
INDIVIDUALS THAT MIGHT WANT TO
TALK IN SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION
. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION A. B. TWELVE FIFTY
SIX PLEASE PRESS ONE. ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE DO HAVE A
COMMENT COMING THROUGH ONE
MOMENT PLEASE WHILE WE PROVIDE
THEM WITH THEIR LINE NUMBER AND
THEY'RE READY- LINE TWENTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
MORNING THIS IS A TELLER FUNDING
ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN
COUNCIL OF ENGINEERING COMPANIES
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AN INMATE
I'M SURE THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. GOOD COME
BRING BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
FOR QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS THE REAL QUICK QUESTION
I'M ASSUMING THE CITY OF EUREKA
IS AND IT IS IN SUPPORT. YES
YEAH HE- I USUALLY ALWAYS ASK
THAT GREAT OR THEY HEARING BUT-
IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME SINCE
EUREKA SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF
THE TAX BASE YOU WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS IN
SUPPORT. CENTERS THEY ARE TO DO
YOU HAVE A QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE
. THING NO QUESTIONS WILL WILL
ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE WELL THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR I THINK YOU
HUMBOLDT COUNTY HAS EXPERIENCED
SOME PRETTY- UNUSUAL.
CIRCUMSTANCES JUST IN THE LAST
YEAR ALONE WE'VE HAD FIRES. WE
HAD THAT EARTHQUAKES AND WE HAD
SNOW- THAT- AND THAT'S JUST
THAT'S PRICE LAST AND LAST FEW
MONTHS SO- SO WE FACE SOME
UNIQUE CHALLENGES AND- AS SUCH I
THINK. THAT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING
FOR IS- IS REASONABLE AND ONCE
AGAIN THIS IS JUST TO PUT
SOMETHING BEFORE THE VOTERS TO
LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. THAT THEY
WANT TO DO THIS VERY GOOD TOP
ENTERTAINING MOTION ON THIS BILL
. SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE MUCH.
THERE IS A MOTION. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE SENATE FLOOR SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CAN I GET- I SAY
ARE TO. LAKE SUPERIOR. WICKS
BEAR I DAWALY. RUSSELL
DOURESSEAUX AYE GLAZER SKINNER.
WIENER WIENER I'M FORTY ZERO.
WILL PUT THAT ON CALL FOR THE
ABSENT MEMBERS MANAGER MEMBERS
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WILL MOVE
BACK TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN
. FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AB
ELEVEN THIRTY TWO. GOOD MORNING
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS I AM
BRINGING YOU A COMMON SENSE BILL
TODAY THE TIED BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT AND NO NO VOTES AB
ELEVEN THIRTY TO SIX TO EXPAND
THE STATEWIDE CAP ON SOLAR FOR
MEATLESS PERMIT FEES. LEVIED BY
MUNICIPALITIES FROM TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE TO TWENTY THIRTY
FOUR THE EXTENSION WOULD ENSURE
THAT SOLAR INSTALLATION COSTS
CONTINUE TO BE REASONABLE AND
CONSISTENT. ALLOWING SOLAR PANEL
INSTALLATION TO GROW ACROSS THE
STATE AND KEEPING MUNICIPALITIES
FROM PRICE GOUGING THEIR THEIR
CUSTOMERS UNNECESSARILY. A PRIOR
TO TWENTY TWELVE SOLAR
PERMITTING BECAUSE VERY WIDELY
IN CALIFORNIA EVEN FOR THE EXACT
SAME SYSTEM IN NEIGHBORING
CITIES. A CURRENT LAW ALLOWS
BUILDING PURPOSE TO EXCEED THE
CAPS IF THEY PASS AN ORDINANCE
OR RESOLUTION JUSTIFYING THE
HIGHER COSTS. AND- IF WE DON'T
EXTEND THE DEADLINE ON THIS BILL
HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS
MIGHT FALL INTO THE RISK OF
HAVING TO PAY EXCESSIVE AND
UNNECESSARY FEES- AND THEN. YOU
KNOW POSSIBLY PASSING ON THE
CHANCE TO ADD THAT RESILIENCY TO
THEIR HOME PASSING ON THE CHANCE
OF OFFERING A SMALL ENTREPRENEUR
IN A BUSINESS THE CHANCE TO DO
IT INSULATION. THIS MAKES A LOT
OF SENSE AND I WOULD REQUEST AN
AYE VOTE. I WE HAVE TODAY KIM
STONE REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA SOLAR STORAGE
ASSOCIATION TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH GOOD
MORNING CAN'T CARE AND MEMBERS
AND THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR AND
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
WORK ON THIS BILL- SOMETIMES
THAT. 5% SAID EXTENSION SEEMS
LIKE AN IMPORTANT BILL BECAUSE
THEY'RE KIND OF ROUTINE BUT THIS
IS AN IMPORTANT BILL THE-
REGULATORY AGENCIES THE ENERGY
COMMISSION- THE- YOU SEE AN AIR
RESOURCES BOARD. FOR A JOINT
REPORT OUT OF CHEATING S. B. ONE
HUNDRED CALIFORNIA GOALS HOW
GOING TO REACH OUR CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE. AND
IT THAT REPORT SAYS WE NEED
THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF SOLAR
THAT WE HAVE EIGHT TIMES THE
AMOUNT OF STORAGE THAT WE HAVE.
REDUCING OR AT LEAST NOT
INCREASING SOFT COSTS UP FOR-
CUSTOMERS TO. USE ROOFTOP SOLAR
WILL BE ONE PART OF OUT HOW
CALIFORNIA WILL BE ABLE TO
RETIRE CLEAN ENERGY GOALS- AS
THE AUTHOR SAID- THIS BUILDING
EXTENDS THE SUNSET ON EXISTING
FEE CAPS. SO RIGHT NOW MANY
JURISDICTIONS HAVE. AUTOMATED
PERMITTING AND HAVE RECEIVED-
THERE'S A FREE APP THAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME UP WITH
ITS CALLED THE SOLAR APP THAT
THEY CAN PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE TO
AUTOMATE THE PERMITTING AND THEN
THERE IS DISCRETIONARY GRANTS
THAT THE STATE GAVE THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. TO ADOPT THAT SO
THAT- FOR ROUTINE INSTALLS THE
SOLAR CONTRACTOR PUTS THE
INFORMATION IN AND SO IN TERMS
OF- THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE
THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOING ON. AND
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A
JUSTIFIED EXTENSION IN- URGE
YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAD. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH IS THERE ANYONE IN
ROOM. TWENTY TWO HUNDRED THAT
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. SINGMAN IS OUR-
THAT WOULD TO SPEAK ENOUGH. GOOD
MORNING TERM MEMBERS PRETTY GOOD
ON BEHALF OF THE CAL CALIFORNIA
BUILDING OFFICIALS AND-
RESPECTFUL OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION- WHAT SINCE AB ELEVEN
TWENTY FOUR CAME BECAME LAW A
LOT OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN
STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE NEW
DEFINITIONS OF SOLAR ENERGY
SYSTEMS INCLUDE. GROUND MOUNTED
SYSTEMS SOLAR CARPORT SOLAR
SHADE STRUCTURES THAT MEN ABLE
TO GET THE FEES STUDY AND GET IT
APPROVED AND A LOCAL ORDINANCE
EITHER NOT AGENDAS BECAUSE OF
LOCAL POLITICAL NEEDS. TO GO
ABOVE THE CAP THAT THIS BILL
ALLOWS THEM TO DO SO THERE'S A
LOT OF CONCERN THAT EXTENDING
THE SUNSET DATE WITHOUT SOME
KIND OF INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT.
WOULD MAKE MAKES IT HARDER TO
THE POINT WHERE SOME OF OUR
BUILDING DEPARTMENTS ARE
SUBSIDIZING PERMIT REVIEW WITH
THE ADOPTION OF THE AUTOMATED
SOLAR PERMITTING SYSTEM THESE
DON'T WORK FOR SOME OF THESE
LARGER STRUCTURE SOLAR CARPORTS
SOLAR SHADE STRUCTURES X.
SENTARA. SO THERE'S A LOT OF
CONCERN FROM OUR MEMBERS THAT WE
DON'T HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT TO GET
TO MATCH INFLATION AND ALTHOUGH
WE APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO GO
OVER THE TOPS SOME LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS JUST DON'T HAVE.
THE NEED LOCALLY OR DON'T HAVE
THE APPROVAL LOCALLY TO DO THAT
SO MAKES IT REALLY HARD SO WE'RE
SUBSIDIZING PERMIT REVIEW. SO
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN
INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT AND
EXPANDED IF IN EXCHANGE WITH
THE- SUNSET THEY WOULD JUST LIKE
COULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR A LOCAL
BUILDING DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE
TO. GET COST REIMBURSEMENT SO
SOME TYPE OF INFLATIONARY
ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE- ACCEPTABLE
FOR US HOPEFULLY WITH SOME
FUTURE MOMENTS AND WE'LL LOOK
FORWARD TO. THOSE CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DOCTORS
OFFICE ON THE BILL. THANK YOU
LOOK FORWARD TO WORK WITH THE
OFFICE UPS ON THIS ONE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE A- IT
DOES NOT GET PRE THAT BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT IS THIS. HOW AND WE'RE
RUNNING OUT OF TIME SO I
WHATEVER. WHATEVER IDEAS YOU
HAVE NEED TO HAVE BEEN.
PRESENTED TO THIS COMMITTEE HAS
THAT SOMEONE THAT WE THAT WOULD
MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS- ABOUT A
PRE APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY- I
DIDN'T SEE ANY- SPECIFICS IN
REGARDS TO THE OPPOSITION SO- I
DON'T LOOK. GOING TO CHECK IN
AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION THAT ARE HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE
WILL MOVE TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE AND- MISTER MODERATOR IF
YOU COULD CHECK TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE
TO TAKE A- TEST TRY EITHER IN
OPPOSITION- SPUR SUPPORT. THANK
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY IN OPPOSITION
OR SUPPORT FOR A BI ELEVEN
THIRTY TWO PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE A
COMMENT FROM A LINE NINETEEN. IN
MY NAME IS BILL. FACILITY A-
SHOT HERE ON THE- OF. SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT MATTER SURE THERE ARE NO FOR
COMMENT AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD
WILL BRING YOU BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR COMMITTEE. CONCERN
SENATOR GLAZERS- JUST WANTED TO
I DON'T THE LEGAL. IN ANY TO.
HERE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON
YOUR BILL. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF
. NOT AT ALL- I EIGHT EIGHT I
HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY I'D HAVE
TO CHECK WITH MY OFFICE TO SEE
IF IT HAD MEDICATION I WANT TO
SPEAK TO MY LUNCH DIRECTOR. BUT
WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT AND
LET YOU KNOW THAT'S FINE VERY
GOOD THANK YOU. THANKS FOR. YES
THANK YOU- I APPRECIATE THE
TESTIMONY FROM OPPOSITION BUT I
ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT POLICY REASON THAT WE
DO THIS- AND THERE ARE CERTAIN
THINGS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT
NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO ABSORB AS
PART OF THE COST OF DOING
BUSINESS. SO IF THERE'S AN
OCCASIONAL MORE MORE COMPLEX
SOLAR INSTALLATION THAT NEEDS A
BUILDING OFFICIAL TO GO OUT
THERE YOU KNOW I THINK THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
ABLE TO BE ABSORBED WITHIN THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET. SO I'M
EXCITED BY THIS BILL THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING IT AND I WILL MOVE
APPROVAL. THERE IS A MOTION
OTHER COMMENTS. THING NINE- THE
- PLEASE CHECK THE ISSUE THAT
WAS RAISED IS THIS NEW TO KIND
OF DISCUSSION YOU'VE HAD ON THIS
BILL THIS IS NOT NEW- I CAN TELL
YOU HAVING BEEN A MAYOR AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENT WE DIDN'T HAVE
INFLATIONARY ESCALATORS ON ANY
OF OUR FEES. WE ROUTINELY AS A
CITY WOULD REVIEW ALL OF OUR
FEES ON A SCHEDULE EVERY FEW
YEARS. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY
WHAT'S PERMISSIBLE UNDER THIS
BILL. RIGHT WELL I ME FROM WHAT.
I THINK FROM MY PUT MY POSITION
I AGREE WITH YOU HUNDRED
PERCENT- INFLATIONARY- INCREASES
IS NOT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR I
WAS LOOKING FOR A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN. KIND OF THE REGULAR RUN
OF THE MILL I'M GONNA PUT. SOLAR
ON MY HOUSE OR MY BUSINESS- AS
OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE
COMPLICATED- AND I AND I DON'T
HAVE IF IT'S THE FIRST TIME
YOU'VE HEARD IT IT'S- NO NO AND
ACTUALLY IN THE ORIGINAL BILL WE
DON'T WE DO HAVE- EXCEPTIONS FOR
LARGE INSULATION SO THIS IS
SUPPOSED TO BE MORE OF YOUR
ROUTINE. BUT I'D LIKE TO LET MY
WITNESS ALSO SPEAK TO THAT. HE
THE LOWER THE SOLAR PROJECT THE
HIGHER THE FEE CAN BE AND- SO
THE AND THEN THE ROUTINE
APPLICATIONS ARE FOR THE FOR THE
SMALLER PROJECTS THAT THEY CAN
USE THEIR INSPECTORS FOR THE-
HARDER ONES THAT THEY ACTUALLY
NEED TO FIGURE OUT. AND THEN IF
THERE IS AN ORDINANCE PASSED AND
IF THE STATE A REASON THEY CAN
CHARGE WHATEVER IT COSTS SO
THOSE MORE COMPLICATED- CASES
THAT DO REQUIRE MORE INSPECTOR
TIME ABSOLUTELY THEY SHOULD BE
ABLE TO CHARGE MORE FOR THEM AND
IT. ACTUALLY I DON'T I DON'T
WANNA. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND
COMMENTS BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO
ABSORB THOSE COSTS THEY JUST
NEED TO STATE WHAT THE REASON
WAS FOR THE HIGHER COSTS AND
THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO TURN. ON
YEAH APPRECIATE THAT IN AND- FOR
POLITICAL REASONS IT MAY BE
DIFFICULT FOR A COUNCIL DECIDE
THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE MORE
FOR. INSTALLATION AND THAT'S
JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN.
I MEAN WE GIVE THEM THERE IS AN
ALTERNATIVE I GUESS IS MY POINT
AND- WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT. THEY
GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS AN
ALTERNATIVE SO I APPRECIATE THAT
I THANK YOU FOR. FOR ANSWERING
MY QUESTIONS IF THERE'S NO OTHER
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS WE DO HAVE
A MOTION. I'LL ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE. THIS IS BEEN NOW THE
LAW FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS- I
DON'T THINK IT'S CAUSE ANY
PROBLEMS BUT HAS ALLOWED FOR
ORDINARY PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO.
AFFORD INSULATIONS AND TO KNOW
THAT YOUR- PRICE IS NOT GOING TO
BE DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE IN ONE
COUNTY THAN IN THE NEXT. THOUGHT
APPRECIATE AN AYE VOTE THANK
YOU. VERY GOOD PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATORS CABALLERO HI. CABALLERO
AYE HERE TO. SCARED TO AYE
BLAKE'S BEER. BREAKS I. THE
RUSSELL. RUSSELL I GLAZER.
GLAZER AYE SKINNER. SKINNER AYE
WIENER. WIENER I. SEVEN ZERO.
THANK YOU ALL SEVENTY. WELL PUT
THAT ON CALL IN AND ADDED TO
THE- AND SO THEY- WE COME-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. COUNTRY ALL. OF
COURSE. THIS YEAR- CALL. I'M
SORRY BUT YEAR UPBEAT. THIS WAS
ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. FULL OKAY
NEVER MIND. I HAVE AN OLDER.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA MY
APOLOGIES I HAD I HAD THIS ONE
IS A- AS A CONSENT. IT IT COULD
HAVE BEEN BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED
IN SO NOW YOU'RE ON THE FILE
ITEM NUMBER TEN AB SIXTEEN FORTY
NINE THANK YOU- AB SIXTY FOUR I
WOULD INCREASE CHANGE ORDER
THRESHOLDS THE COUNTY SANTA
CLARA TO JANUARY FIRST TWENTY
TWENTY SEVEN. COUNTY WOULD ALSO
BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A REPORT
LEGISLATURE WAS LIFE FIRST
TWENTY TWENTY SIX. ASIANS ARE
EXACTLY THE SAME AS AB SEVEN
TWELVE FROM TWENTY TWENTY ONE
AUTHORED THE SAME CHANGES TO L.
A. COUNTY. CHANGE ORDERS OR
MINISTER CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT
THAT CHANGES THE CONTRACTORS
COUPLE WORLDS IS MOVING
LOCATIONAL WALL TO ACCOMMODATE
SOME OTHER DESIGN ELEMENTS AND
USUALLY INCREASES THE CONTRACT
PRICE. EXISTING LAW LIMITS THE
MAXIMUM OUT OF DELEGATED OFFICER
INJURED CAN IMPROVE WITHOUT
REQUIRING A VOTE BY THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS. THESE LIMITS HAVE
NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE TWENTY
ELEVEN DO NOT REFLECT INFLATION
CHANGES IN CONSTRUCTION MARKET
PRICING OR CHANGES IN THE SCALE
PROJECTS THE RESULT IS THE
MAXIMUM PRESSURE REQUIRING A
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VOTERS
FREQUENTLY REACHED HARPER
LEADING TO COSTLY DELAYS. AS THE
NUMBER NECESSARY CHANGE ORDERS
INCREASES COUNTY SANTA CLARA IS
A SERIES A RELATIVELY LARGE
PROJECTS IN THE CONSTRUCTION
PIPELINE. INCLUDING A NEW
BEHAVIOR HEALTH SERVICES CENTER
AND SIZE WHICH APPEARS FOR THE
HOSPITAL BUILDINGS. ADJUSTING
THAT THAT THE CHANGE ORDER
THRESHOLD TO THE SAME CAP OF LOS
ANGELES. WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY
TO AVOID POSSIBLE DELAYS ON
THESE LARGE TIME SENSITIVE
PROJECTS. WITHIN TO PROVIDE
SUPPORTING SINCE ONE IS .COM TO
GET THE DIRECTOR THE CENTER
COUNTY. FACILITIES AND FLEET
DEPARTMENT. VERY GOOD. WELL .COM
ON THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR
COUPLE PER. WITH OF SILLY
PLEASED. OF SO INCLUDE PART IT
WOULD COUNTY SAN CLARA. THANK
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. SOME IN
SUPPORT OF THE- FOR COUNTIES BY
. BILL A SIXTEEN FOR NINE THIS-
AS- THIS MEMBER- KALRA. THE TWO
CLICK THE CHAIN ORDER THREAT. OF
FOR THIS ACCOUNT SANTA TOTAL
JANUARY FIRST TWENTY TWENTY
SEVEN. FOR UP TO SEVEN PROJECTS.
OF THE COUNTY SANTA CLARA HAS A
SERIES OF RELATIVELY LARGE
PROJECTS IN THE CONSTRUCTION
PIPELINE. INCLUDING A BEHAVIORAL
SERVICES ARE. AND SEVERAL
SEISMIC RETROFIT STRONG
HOSPITALS ADDRESSING THE CHANGE
YOUR THRESHOLD ALLOW THE COUNTY
TO AVOID. A POSSIBLE DELAYS AND
ASSOCIATED COSTS RESULTING FROM
THOSE TWO LETTERS ON THIS
IMPORTANT LARGE AND SENSITIVE.
AND TIME SENSITIVE PROJECTS.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME APPRECIATE
. YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS
MEASURE. FOR GOOD THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOU TESTIMONY TODAY.
LEVINE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE
ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TESTIFY
SUPPORT OF HEALTH. ANYONE HERE
IN TWENTY HUNDRED THAT WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT.
SINGMAN IS THERE ANYBODY THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. CNN WILL GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE IS OR
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION OF AB SIXTEEN FORTY
NINE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET-
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO A. B. SIXTEEN FORTY NINE
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. AND IT MADAM CHAIR
THERE ARE NO COMMENTS VERY GOOD
WE'LL BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR. QUESTIONS SENATOR. GLAZER
YUP OKAY- SO I JUST THAT FOR THE
RECORD I DID VOTE FOR THE- THE
CALDERON BILL- AT A PARTY THAT
WAS DEBORAH PORTS THE
LEGISLATURE WHICH WE WERE NOT
GONNA SEE UNTIL TWENTY TWENTY
SIX. SO I AM A LITTLE SKEPTICAL-
AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS
YOU'RE NOT JUST ELIMINATING THE
FOUR FIFTHS IS A HIGH STANDARD.
YOU'RE LIMITING ANY PUBLIC VOTE.
ON THESE KINDS OF CHANGE ORDER
ISSUES. AS SO AT THE END OF THE
CLEAR THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT
UNIT LIKES LET'S MAKE IT A
MAJORITY LET'S MAKE IT EASIER
MAKING MAJORITY VOTE YOU JUST
DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE. IS THAT
RIGHT. WELL THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WILL WELL YEAH WITH THE
DOES THIS ALLOWS A FACILITY OF
CHANGE ORDERS THAT HAPPEN DURING
THE COURSE OF. A LARGE PROJECTS
LIMITED TO SEVEN PROJECTS JUST
LIKE A LOS ANGELES HAS REPORT
BACK JUST LIKE LOS ANGELES BILL
. SO IT IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT HAS
BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. AND
YOUR BILL JUST DOESN'T AFFECT
THE CAPS BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER
OPTION RIGHT IS TO CHANGE THE
CAPS- MAY NOT CHANGE THAT THE
REVIEW BY. THE ELECTED BOARD AND
YOU'RE CHOOSING TO DO SO. DO YOU
BOTH THE CHANGE THE CAPS AND TO
CHANGE ANY REVIEW. WELL IT'S A
IT'S A LIMITED INCREASE IN THE
CAP INCREASE AND IT ALLOWS WITH
SOLICITATION OF THE ENGINEERS
AND THOSE OVERSEEING THE
PROJECTS. TO BE ABLE TO IN A
TIMELY FASHION- MAKE. CHANGES TO
HELP FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION
THE PROJECT'S AND GENERAL I
DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
CAPTION AGE. ABOUT ELIMINATING
THE REVIEW I MEAN I KNOW THIS
THIS. IS SOMETHING WE HEAR OFTEN
ABOUT TIME CREATES A PROBLEM
RIGHT THE REVIEW CREATES A
PROBLEM- THE CHANGE ORDERS IT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS AGENCY
IS A PLACE WHERE THERE'S ABUSE
BUT CHANGE ORDERS HAS BEEN A
PLACE OF A LOT OF ABUSE. I AM
CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS WERE. A
BIT LOW AND THEN THE CHANGE
ORDERS COME IN AND THEY COULD BE
DOUBLE THAT THE PRICE OF THE
OTHER. PROJECT SO I GUESS MY
WORRY IS THAT- THERE'S JUST NO
ELECTED. OFFICIAL REVIEW OF
THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES I MEAN
YOU COULD SAY. YOU KNOW THEY
THEY- IT SELECT THE MANAGEMENT
SO THERE'S SOME ACCOUNTABILITY
THERE ARE RIGHT AND IF THE MATCH
WAS MAKING THESE CHOICES. THAN
THE ELECTUS AND BEAR SOME
RESPONSIBILITY FOR BAD CHOICES
THAT ARE MADE. BUT A PART OF THE
- THIS THIS WORLD OF CONTRACTING
IS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH
TRANSPARENCY THAT THE PUBLIC CAN
FOLLOW THINGS. COULD FOLLOW
CHANGE ORDERS AND WHEN IT'S NOT
A PUBLIC AGENDA THAN THE PUBLIC
AT LEAST REVIEW. THAT PROPOSED
CHANGE- KNIVES AND THEY THINK
THAT MOST RECENTLY OF THE CHANGE
ORDERS FOR HIGH SPEED RAIL. IN
THE A MULTI MULTI MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS- YOU LOOK AT
THE COST CHANGES THAT OCCURRED
ON THAT PROJECT SO. I KNOW YOUR
INTENTIONS ARE GOOD HERE AND I
KNOW THE OTHER A GOOD AGENCY
THIS TRYING TO DO THEIR BEST
WORK BUT THESE ARE THE ISSUES
THAT. THAT WORRIES ME A LITTLE
BIT. BUT IT AND IT'S IF I COULD
MADAM CHAIR HOLDING UP SOCCER
COUNTY TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT MAY
HAPPEN IN OTHER AGENCIES- YES.
THERE ARE THERE ARE. THE THERE
MAY BE A ABUSE ANOTHER AGES BUT
LET'S KEEP OF MINE. CONTRACTS UP
TO FIFTY MILLION. EXTRA COST
BESIDES THE FOUR HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLAR. PER CONTRACT
FIFTY MILLION MUST NOT EXCEED OR
FIFTY. DOLLAR THERE'S NOT HERE
THAT'S GOING TO DOUBLE. OR
TRIPLE THE COST ANYTHING- AND SO
THERE ARE REASONABLE.
LIMITATIONS IN HERE. THE ALLOW
FOR THE FACILITATION OF A
PROFICIENCY IN THESE LARGE SCALE
PROJECTS LIMITED TO SEVEN
PROJECTS JUST LIKE THE LA BILL-
AND I AND IT. A CAP ON THAT THAT
DO NOT ALLOW FOR THE CHANGE
ORDERS TO EXCEED. A NOMINAL
AMOUNT CONSIDERING THE VALUE OF
THESE CONTRACTS THESE ARE MAJOR
PROJECTS. AND SO HAVING- EXTRA
COSTS. TO NOT EXCEED FOUR
HUNDRED. THOUSAND FOR A PROJECT
FROM TWENTY FIVE TO FIFTY
BILLION DOLLARS I DON'T THINK IS
EXCESSIVE STILL ALLOWS FOR
EFFICIENCY. OVERSIGHT. AND ALL
THESE CHANGE ORDERS ARE PUBLIC
AS WELL. THE PUBLIC RECORD. YOUR
DAILY. THANK YOU MEDICARE- I
ACTUALLY WORK IN THIS AREA WHERE
WE TRY TO GET THE LIMITS UP BUT
I ALSO WAS A- WORK FOR A
CONTRACTOR WHO WE BID JOBS. AT
THE BARE MINIMUM BECAUSE WE KNEW
WE WERE GONNA MAKE A KILLING ON
CHANGE ORDERS SO I'VE BEEN ON
BOTH SIDES OF THIS- AND I WANT
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT
ABOUT- DESIGN BUILD SO ARE THESE
ANY OF THESE PROJECTS DESIGN
BUILD WHERE YOU ACTUALLY ARE
WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO-
BUILD. THESE PROJECTS. NONE OF
THEM WOULD BE JUST FINE BUILDS
THAT WERE DESIGNED BILL THAT
WOULD THAT WOULD CERTAINLY
ELIMINATE THE MAJORITY OF CHANGE
ORDERS OKAY THANK YOU AND THEN
THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS.
IS THAT PER OCCURRENCE A CHANGE
ORDER OF FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE FIVE CHANGE
ORDERS AND THEY'RE ALL FOUR
HUNDRED DOLLARS YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT. A TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
SEVEN JENNIFER MILLION DOLLAR
PROJECT WHICH IS REAL MONEY.
WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE NOT WENT OUT
WHEN THE WHEN THE BOARD APPROVES
PROJECT. THROUGH THE PROJECT UP
TO THE CONTRACT AMOUNT. THEY
ALSO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENT
SUPPLEMENTARY WORK LOTS. THAT'S
NORMALLY 10% OF THE CONTRACT
AMOUNT. AT NO TIME COULD THE-
ANYONE DELEGATED THIS AUTHORITY
TO PRODUCE CHANGE ORDERS-
APPROVE AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD
CAUSE THAT SUPPLEMENTARY WORK
ALONE SPEAK SEATED. WITHOUT
GOING BACK TO THE BOARD AND GET
AN ADDITIONAL. BUDGET AUTHORITY.
SO. THERE THERE IS A LIMIT ON
THAT. IN A THINK WE THE NEAR THE
POINT OF LIKE MAKERS WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT LARGE PRO-
PARTICULAR THIS BEHAVIORAL
SERVICES CENTER PROJECT THAT'S A
FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY MILLION
DOLLAR PROJECT- WRITTEN INTO IT-
DELAY FEES- THE IF THE COMMON
CAUSES THAT THE LACK. OF THEY
ARE ENTITLED TO FIFTY ONE
THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WORK DAY.
ALL RIGHT AND IF AND IT'S NOT
ALWAYS THAT ARE. THAT A CHANGE
WOULD RESULT IN IN STOPPING THE
CONTRACTOR FROM WORKING. WITH
THOSE THAT IMPACT THE- THE SO
CALLED CRITICAL PATH OF THE
PROJECT. THE CONTRACT TO BE
ENTITLED TO THAT FIFTY ONE
THOUSAND DOLLARS. PER DAY FOR
WORK TODAY. AND TYPICALLY- EVEN
IF YOU EXPEDITED. IT COULD TAKE-
IT COULD TAKE AT LEAST THREE
WEEKS. TO GET THE CHANGE ORDER
FOR THE BOARD. SO IF YOU KNOW IF
YOU DO THAT YOU TAKE THAT
FIFTEEN DAYS TIME TO FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY. YOU'VE
ALREADY EXCEEDED- THE AMOUNT OF
THE AUTHORITY THAT WE'RE ASKING
FOR NOW. SO YOU KNOW FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE BEING THE- OF YOUR
PREFERRED CAPITAL PROGRAMS.
ALWAYS BEEN BEAT UP ON
MAINTAINING COST AND SCHEDULE-
THIS THIS WOULD BE A AN
INCREDIBLE. A TOOL TO USE TO
KEEP KEEP THE COST DOWN. TO KEEP
THE PROJECT ON SCHEDULE. THANK
YOU. CAN CENTERS HERE TO. SO I
ALWAYS HAVE THE CONCERN ABOUT
CHANGE ORDERS AND THINGS BUT IT
THIS KIND OF LANDS ON THE BEING
EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE. AND YOU
KNOW ALLOWING THE ORGANIZATION.
TO ULTIMATELY SAVE PEOPLE TAX A
TAX MONEY- BECAUSE AS YOU HAVE
DELAYS GUESS WHAT. YOU HAVE
INCREASES IN COSTS UNFORTUNATELY
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE AN
ENVIRONMENT- THAT- WE HAVE A LOT
OF VOLATILE COSTS. IN IT YOU
KNOW EVEN A ONE MONTH DELAY CAN
COST A LOT OF MONEY. AND IN SO
WHEN YOU WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT
CHANGE ORDERS RELATED TO THIS- I
LOOK AT IN A BIGGER- BIGGER
PACKAGE THE BOARD DOES HAVE SOME
YOU HOLD ACCOUNTABLE AND THAT
PERSON IS HIM. IN THEIR CASE
AND- AND ALSO THE HOW COUNTY C.
E. L. AND WHEN THEY'RE NOT AND
WE'VE HAD THESE ISSUES- AND THEN
WENT WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL'S
COURSE IN A LITTLE BIT SMALLER
THING BUT- HUGE PROJECTS- IT'S-
ULTIMATELY IT WAS EASIER TO DEAL
WITH THE CEO AND THE PERSONS IN
CHARGE OF MAKING SURE THE
PROJECT IS MANAGED CORRECTLY-
THEN IT WAS TO. YOU KNOW TAKE
SOMETHING TO THE BOARD AND THEN
TRY TO DECIPHER THESE COSTS
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
WHAT DO YOU GOING TO DO AS A
BOARD. YOU'RE GOING TO TURN DOWN
THE CHANGE ORDER WELL THEN WHAT.
YOU KNOW THEN THEN WHAT ARE YOU
GOING TO DO- AT SO- FOR ME I
THINK THIS IS IT DID YOU KNOW
FOR THE FOR SANTA CLARA YOU KNOW
THEY'RE- THEY'RE COUNTY AND
DECIDES OF THEIR PROJECTS- THIS.
PROBABLY MEANS YOU KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAVING PEOPLE
A LOT OF MONEY AND THOSE ARE
TAXPAYERS SAID NOT TO AGENCIES
OR WHATEVER THE TAXPAYERS. AND
AND BEING MORE EFFICIENT AND-
BUT STILL. ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE
THE ABILITY THE BOARD HAS THE
ABILITY TO HOLD PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE AND SO- CHUNG
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY.
BECAUSE OF THAT. SO YOU'RE ON
THE MOVE THE BILL. THERE IS A
MOTION. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. I
APPRECIATE YOU'RE- YOU'RE TRYING
TO DO HERE- I HAD THE SAME
COMMENTED SENATOR DOLLY THIS
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD DESIGN
BUILD. PROJECT I HATE CHANGE
ORDERS- AND FRANKLY IN A
JURISDICTION THAT THAT I WAS IN
WE KEPT A LIST OF THE
CONTRACTORS THAT. DID NO HAD NO
CHANGE ORDERS ON PROJECTS THAT
THE CITY FUNDED BECAUSE THOSE
WERE THE THOSE WERE THE PEOPLE
WHO. I THOUGHT DID DID THE BEST
JOB I KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING
AND WE'RE GOING TO SETTLE THIS
WITH AN EXTRA COST THAT. IT WAS
AN HONOR AND PLANNED SO I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY
THERE'S A MOTION. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. OH I'M SORRY ALLOW TO
CLOSE. ALL ALL HAVE SENATORS
THEY ARE WERE JUST LIKE. AND
REGISTRY YES RIGHT. GOOD
MACHINIST. TO PASS TO SAM FLOOR
- SO COVER DON'T HI COMING. I
SEE ARE TO HIGH THERE ARE TWO I
. LAKE SUPERIOR BREAKS I DOLLY.
DALI I WOULD ASSUME THAT SO I
GLAZER. SKINNER WIENER WIENER I
AM SIX ZERO IF IS OUT WILL PUT
IT ON CALL FOR THE UPS MEMBERS
AND THEY ARE FOR BILL. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER OF THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR- THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
ELEVEN AB SEVENTEEN THIRTY SIX.
THANK YOU- I'M SURE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR A MINUTE PERCENT
AB SEVENTEEN THIRTY SIX A BILL
WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. THIS
BILL WOULD SIMPLY AUTHORIZE
ACCORDING BOARD OF THAT WATER
REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT THE
NEGOTIATED CONTRACT CONSTRUCTED
PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT. IF IT
RECEIVES NO BIDS. FOR BACKGROUND
THE WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT
MANAGES GROUNDWATER RESOURCES
WITHIN THE CENTRAL BASIN IN THE
WEST BECAUSE BASE IN SOUTHERN
LOS ANGELES COUNTY. WHEN THE
CURRENT LAW DIFFERENT PUBLIC
AGENCIES HAVE SPECIFIC
PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE NEXT
STEPS THE AGENCY CAN TAKE WHEN
I'M OF RETIREMENT FOR BEATS DOES
COME BACK WITH NO PROPOSALS.
HOWEVER THAT IS NOT THE CASE FOR
THE WATER REPLENISHMENT
DISTRICT. IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
OTHER WRT HOT TO PROJECTS IN
WHICH THEY DID NOT RECEIVE BE
IT'S BY THEIR DEADLINE. WHICH
FOR SOME PROVIDE THE SCOPE OF
THE WORK IN RECENT RE ISSUE THEY
BEAT SOLICITATION. THIS RESULT
IN A LOSS OF TIME ADDITIONALLY
SO STOP RESOURCES AND
CONSTRUCTION. IN ADDITION MILAN
CONSTRUCTION HAS A NEGATIVE
EFFECT ON THE ABILITY OF THE
DISTRICT TO CARRY OUT HIS DUTIES
AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AND IN THE
PRESIDENT INFLATIONARY FINANCIAL
ENVIRONMENT IT INCREASED
CONSTRUCTION COSTS ALL ARTICLES
PLACE UPWARD PRESSURE ON WRD'S
WATER RESPECT REPLENISHMENT
ASSESSMENT. WHICH IS REFLECTED
IN COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL WATER
RATES IMPOSED BY A LOCAL. AGENCY
WATER SYSTEMS AND WATER
CORPORATIONS. IT IS BELIEVED A
SIMPLE FIX THAT WOULD ALIGN. BUT
WE ARE THE WITH ALL THE LOCAL
AGENCIES THAT ALREADY HAVE THE
SECURITY AND FLEXIBILITY TO
PROCEED WITH CONST CONSTRUCTING
CRITICAL REGIONAL WATER
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND JOINING ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY IN TO ANSWER
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS HIS BOOK BUT
REAP WITH A WATER REPLENISHMENT
DISTRICT OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU. VERY GOOD WELCOME.
I'M SURE MEMBERS BY READ WITH
READ RELATIONS- OF THE DOUBLE
RDE- THE W. R. D. WAS CREATED-
AFTER TO GROUNDWATER BASINS WERE
ADJUDICATED BACK IN THE NINETEEN
FIFTIES. BECAUSE YOU DO
OCCASIONAL OUT FOR MORE PUMPING
THEN SAY FIELD WOULD ALLOW. FOR
THE REPLACEMENT DISTRICT WAS
CREATED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. TO ADD
THAT ADDITIONAL WATER TO THE
BASE AND THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO
BE OPERATED IN A IN A SAFE
MANNER. INITIALLY THEY WERE THE
LARGEST PURCHASER OF IMPORTED
WATER THROUGH THE METROPOLITAN
WATER DISTRICT OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA TO ACCOMPLISH THAT
REPLENISHMENT. BUT SINCE THAT
POINT IN TIME THEY HAVE EVOLVED
TO CAPTURE STORM WATER- PUT
RECYCLED WATER INTO PERCOLATION
BASINS. MORE RECENTLY THEY'VE
BEEN- THEY'VE BUILT IN OUR
OPERATE AT REGIONAL BRACKISH
GROUNDWATER THE SALTINE PROJECT.
AN ADVANCED WATER TREATMENT
PLANT THAT'S AN OPERATION THAT
ALLOWS THEM TO. NOT RELY. ON ANY
IMPORTED WATER FREE PLACEMENT
PURPOSES OVER SIXTEEN YEARS
THEY'VE GONE FROM SOLELY RELIANT
ON PORTER WATER TO NOW BEING
LOCALLY SELF RELIANT. THE TYPE
OF PROJECTS THAT THERE ARE NOW
ENGAGED IN A VERY COMPLEX
THEY'RE BUILT IN DENSE URBAN
ENVIRONMENT SOMETIMES AND
NEIGHBORHOODS. PROJECTS ARE NOT
SIMPLE- THEY REQUIRE- NOISE
ATTENUATION HOURS OF OPERATION
FLAGGING DIGGING IN THE STREETS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THIS IS NOT
JUST A CONTRACTOR DRILL A WELL
THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES WITH IT
WHEN YOU'RE IN THESE- DENSE
URBAN ENVIRONMENTS SO- WHAT
HAPPENED IS- FOR THE FIRST TIME
LAST YEAR THEY HAD. TWO BIDS
THAT- SOLICITATIONS THAT
RECEIVED NO RESPONSES AND THAT
CAUSED A DELAY AND IT- AN-
INCREASE COSTS. FOR THE
DISTRICTS SO WE'RE ASKING FOR
THIS IS THE ALREADY HOME WHEN
THEY WERE CREATED THEY WERE GIVE
THE A BILL WHEN THEY RECEIVED NO
BIDS TO BUILD PROJECTS WITH
THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES. THEY DIDN'T
HAVE A PLACE THEY INSTEAD RELY
ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND LABOR
UNIONS TO BRING THESE PROJECTS
ONLINE WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED SO
WE'RE ASKING FOR AN AYE VOTE
AND- PLEASE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT THE COMMITTEE MA'AM. VERY
GOOD IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
. SEEING NO ONE IS THERE ANYBODY
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. SINGMAN WON'T WILL MOVE
ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
AND ASK THE MODERATOR TO PLEASE
QUEUE UP ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION A. B.
SEVENTEEN THIRTY SIX PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND
WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM LINE
SEVENTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
YOU CAN CHANGE THEIR ACTOR FOR
THE CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL
LABORS WE ARE PROUD SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANKS VERY MUCH.
MADAM CHAIR THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD
WILL BRING THE BILL BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE IS THERE ANYBODY
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO TEST
OUR THAT WOULD ASK A QUESTION OR
MAKE A COMMENT. SENATOR GLAZERS
. THANK YOU CHAIR- FOR SOMEONE A
COMPLIMENT THE STAFF FOR THE
ANALYSIS HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO
THE COMMITTEE IT'S FOR IT'S
PRETTY THOROUGH. AND IT DOES
RAISE A NUMBER OF ISSUES I
CERTAINLY WANT TO GET THE-
AUTHORED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
RESPOND TO THOSE. BUT IT EIGHT
IN PARTICULAR THE ANALYSIS
POINTS OUT THAT JUST THIS PAST
YEAR. OF EIGHTEEN PROJECTS BID
ONLY TO HAD NO BID TO SOCIALLY
WITH IT. I POINTS OUT THAT. THAT
THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT
THAT PROBLEMS CAN OCCUR ON A NO
BID SITUATION IS WHEN. THAT THE
TIMELINE CAN BE SO SHORT. OF
THAT THE AGENCY SETS UP THAT- IT
DOESN'T RECEIVE BIDS. AT ALLOWS
THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO
NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF THE
PROJECT. INSTEAD OF- ACCEPTING
UP A LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BETTER-
AND THEN THEY THEY CONCLUDE WITH
I THOUGHT A VERY POIGNANT POINT
TO THE COMMITTEE WHICH THEY SAID
THIS. FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE
CONFIDENCE IN THE DECISIONS THEY
MAKE. PUBLIC OFFICIALS MUST
SPEND THE PUBLIC'S MONEY IN FULL
VIEW. INVITING BIDS AND AWARDING
CONTRACTS. THE LOWEST POSSIBLE
BETTER IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE
METHOD OF ENSURING TRANSPARENCY
FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC
FUNDS. COMPARED TO NEGOTIATE A
CONTRACT. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU
THAT OPPORTUNITY I NOTICED IN
THE TESTIMONY ON BEHALF OF THE
BILL THAT WAS NOTE. NO MENTION
OF THE TROUBLED THIS AGENCY HAS
BEEN FOR DECADES THE AUDITS THAT
HAVE BEEN DONE. THE LATEST
SCANDAL ON THE SELECTION OF AN
ACTING GENERAL MANAGER. AND SO
HERE IN THIS SITUATION OF A
TROUBLED AGENCY THAT'S HAD THESE
PROBLEMS. IT SEEMS SIDE. THAT
THAT STAFF ANALYSIS RAISES
SKEPTICISM ABOUT WHETHER THIS AT
THE ALREADY FOR THE SHOULD BE
GRANTED. SOMEONE GIVE ME THAT
OPPORTUNITY- BASICALLY WHAT THE
THIS IS DOING IS JUST HAVE A-
THIS. A PLANNERS. PLAY FILLABLE
AGENTS ARE ALREADY HAPPIEST
THIRTY- WHEN THERE IS NO BITS
THAT ARE RECEIVE. I'M SOMEWHAT
COME FROM A ALL BECAUSE AS WE
THAT THAT OCCURS FROM TIME TO
TIME. WHAT THAT DOES IS BASIC
DELAYS A- DELAYS. SERVICES THAT
ARE YOU ON A PER TO THE
RESIDENTS. AGAIN WE WILL X. THE-
AND SUMMONS. THEY ARE GROUND OF
MONEY AVAILABLE WE SHALL COME
WITH LIMITED TO. AND SOME
AGENCIES ALSO FACE THAT THE-
NOTIFY THAT THEY WILL LOSE THE
FUNDING. IF THEY'RE NOT UP
CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE SERVER
TIME ALLOW ALLOW BY THOSE
GROUNDS. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON
WHY US FAR AS WHAT THE HISTORY
HAS BEEN OF- BAY THIS AGENCY. I
DON'T KNOW WHY I THAT REALLY
KIND OF DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. BY
WEARING IT BILL IN FRONT OF TO
SEE WE CAN THE SAME. PLAY FEEL
THE ORDER AGENCIES OUT OR HAVE
THE- TO PROCEED WITH PROJECTS.
THAT AGAIN A LOT OF TIMES COME A
WHICH ISN'T TIME SENSITIVE. AND
NOW WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF
LOSING MILLIONS COULD NOT
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR.
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL NEED IN
THE. STATE THREE BUT SHE LIKE TO
DRESS MAYBE SOME OF THE HISTORY.
ISSUE THE- CLEAR FOR THE BETTER
OF THE CA MEMBERS. THE LAW. AND
THE MINISTRY CODE WOULD STILL
REQUIRES THE DISTRICT TO ISSUE
COMPETITIVE BID SOLICITATIONS
FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THIS
DOESN'T CHANGE THAT REQUIREMENT.
WHAT THIS DOES IS PROVIDE THEM
AN OPTION FOR WHEN THEY RECEIVED
NO BIDS. THEY WILL THEY CAN
STILL HAVE THE OPTION UNDER LAW
FOR GOING OUT TO REBUILD IT.
THEY CAN BUILD IT WITH THEIR OWN
PLAYS BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR
EMPLOYEES DO CONSTRUCTION- OR
THEY CAN JUST ABANDON THE
PROJECT AND THAT AND- THAT. IS
CLEARLY NOT AN OPTION SO WE'RE
TRYING TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER
OPTION OF. NEGOTIATE AT THAT
POINT WHEN THEY DON'T RECEIVE A
BID. THE ISSUE WITH THE AND I DO
WANT TO GO TOO MUCH OVER THE
HISTORY. MOST OF IT IS OVER
TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN THERE
WAS A STATE AUDIT THAT WAS.
PROVIDED TO THE LEGISLATURE.
THERE WAS NO MALFEASANCE THERE
IS NO LAWS BEING BROKEN IN THE
DISTRICT LACKED THE FINANCIAL
CONTROLS AND WRITTEN POLICIES
FOR- ENTERING INTO CONTRACTS IN
PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION
CONTRACTS. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT
HISTORY AND SO THEY ARE MOVING
IN TRANSITION TOWARD THAT- BASED
ON THE AUDIT THEY THEY'VE
COMPLIED WITH THE AUDIT
RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY NOW
HAVE THOSE FISCAL TROLLS. FOR
OVER TWENTY YEARS THEY RECEIVED-
CERTIFICATES OF FINANCIAL
EXCELLENCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT
FINANCIAL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION-
THEY REALLY. I THINK COME INTO
THE MODERN ERA AND DEALING WITH
THESE- COMPLEX PROJECTS. THEY
CAN THEY CAN THEY WORK WITH THE
STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL
BOARD- THEY JUST COMPLETED TWO
YEARS AGO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE
MILLION DOLLAR DANCE WATER
TREATMENT PROJECT. THAT
PROPOSITION ONE PROVIDE AN
EIGHTY MILLION DOLLAR LOW
INTEREST LOANS A FIFTEEN MILLION
DOLLAR GRANT SO I THINK. WHAT
HAPPENED TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO
AS IN THE PAST TODAY THERE I
THINK THEY'RE A TRUSTED LOCAL
AGENCY THAT HAS A GOOD
REPUTATION WITH STATE AGENCIES
LIKE THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
CONTROL BOARD- WITH RESPECT TO
THE GENERAL MANAGER. ISSUE THE
GENERAL MANAGER FOR A LONG
STANDING RETIRED AND THERE IS A
DIFFERENT DIFFERENCE ON THE
BOARD AS TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH WITH REPLACE SCENE- THAT
INDIVIDUAL- HAVING SERVED ON THE
CITY COUNCIL AT A YOUNGER AGE
AND MANAGE THE COUNTY WATER
AGENCY. I CAN ASSURE YOU AS A
GENERAL MANAGER I'D LOVE TO HAVE
A FIVE ZERO VOTE ON EVERYTHING-
BUT THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN
AND I THINK- IT THAT IN THE END
THEY- HIRED A VERY COMPETENT
GENERAL MANAGER AND- HE'S BEEN
IN PLACE FOR A COUPLE YEARS. BUT
RETAIN IN GENERAL MANAGER IS NOT
A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS THAT
IT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS
SO- I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE
IT THAT INCIDENT. THAT DIVISION
ON THE BOARD SHOULD BE TAKEN AS
A AS A OF THE ISSUER. FOR THE
DISTRICT. SMITH THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHOR AND TO THE WITNESS FOR
THAT THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
I APPRECIATE THAT I. SERVED ON
MY CITY COUNCIL HAD SITUATIONS
WHERE NO BITS OF COMMAND AND-
THAT'S UNFORTUNATE AND WE GO
BACK TO STAFF WE TALK ABOUT-
WHAT WERE THE CONDITIONS WE SAID
AND WHETHER OR NOT- WE SHOULD
CHANGE THOSE TO MAKE IT. EASIER
FOR PEOPLE TO BED SO THAT'S A
NORMAL PROCESS I KNOW THAT WE
AND DISCUSSED IN AN EARLIER BILL
EFFICIENCY EVERYBODY WANTS
EFFICIENCY WE WANT TO SAVE THE
TAXPAYER MONEY TO- BUT THIS IS A
SITUATION WHERE. YOU KNOW. IT'S
A TOUGH FOR CALL FOR ME AT LEAST
BUT I APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS
THAT STRONG ADVOCACY FOR THAT
FIRST DISTRICT AND FOR THIS
AGENCY. OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS
AND CONCERNS CENTER DRIVE US TO-
I BASICALLY SUPPORT I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR LATEST-
INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED-
BUT ONE QUESTION IS WHAT HOW DO
YOU THEN GO FROM NO BIDS TO.
NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT HOW DO
YOU SEEK OUT WHAT DO YOU DO. TO
MAKE UP FOR THE FACT THAT BITS
UP NOT SOME INSURERS SO I CAN
GIVE YOU EXAMPLE THE SECOND. BID
SOLICITATION THAT FAILED. A
STEEL BUILDING IN THE HOUSE-
EQUIPMENT. AND VEHICLES AND IT
CAME AT A TIME WHEN THE MARKET
WAS REALLY. CONSTRUCTION MARKET
WAS VERY ACTIVE THIS POST
PANDEMIC EVERYTHING WAS GEARING
UP. AND SO THE DISTRICT WENT
BACK TO. THE BIDDERS THAT
SUBMITTED- IN INTEREST AND PULL
DOWN THE BID DOCUMENTS THEY CALL
THEM AFTER THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE
ANY BIDS AND SOME OF THEM SAID
WELL IT'S JUST TOO SMALL FOR US
TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW. A COUPLE
OTHER SAID IT'S NOT REALLY THE
TYPE OF BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S A
MULTI USE TYPE OF BUILDING THAT
WE DO- SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING
WAS- NEGOTIATING OR I'M SORRY
THEY REBUILD THAT- IN A BETTER
ENVIRONMENT. I THINK WHEN THINGS
CALM DOWN TERMS OF THE RAMPING
UP AFTER THE PANDEMIC AND THEY
WERE ABLE TO. TO SECURE BID FOR
THAT BUILDING. BUT THERE'S
MULTIPLE OPTIONS THEY CAN- CUT
WHAT THEY DID WITH THE- REGIONAL
BRACKETS PROJECT AS THEY-
CONTACTED THE DRILLERS THAT THEY
HAD SENT THE BIDS OUT TO AND
SAID. WHAT WAS WHAT WERE THE
ISSUES HERE IT WAS A TIMING
ISSUE AND IT WAS THE COMPLEXITY
ISSUE THAT WAS INVOLVED-
EXPANDING THE REGIONAL PRACTICE
PROJECT. AND SO THE AREA IS VERY
WIDE BUT IT'S CITY OF TORRANCE
IT'S- VERY DEVELOPED AS AS YOU
KNOW FROM YOUR AREA AND SO THEY
HAD TO LOOK FOR- LOCATIONS WHERE
THEY COULD DO THIS-
INVESTIGATORY- DRILLING. AND
WHAT HAVE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING
TO IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT SO IT WAS A
FAIRLY COMPLEX BECAUSE THERE'S
MULTIPLE SITES INVOLVED- SO
THEY'RE ABLE TO. BREAK THAT
PROJECT INTO TWO PHASES AND GET
BIDS ON PHASE ONE- AND THEN WHEN
THEY GET TO FACE TO THEY'LL HOPE
. TO RECEIVE BIDS ON THAT AS
WELL. THE OTHER COMMENTS BECAUSE
ARE. FEEL ENTERTAINING MOTION.
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