SENATE BUDGET SUB COMMITTEE OVER
TO OUR RESOURCE VIA PROTECTION
ENERGY WILL COME TO ORDER GOOD
MORNING SENATE CONTINUES TO WORK
IN THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING OF RIGHT
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY THE NUMBERS
877-226-8163 877-226-8163 THE
ACCESS CODE IS. SIX NINE FOUR
EIGHT NINE THREE ZERO. FOR WE
CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. THAT GROWTH HERE BAKER HERE
DOLLY THEIR TALLY HERE MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT
WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH ISSUE
NUMBER TWO OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY
RESOURCES RELATED ROLES
RESPONSIBILITIES ALL ASK THE CC-
AND- YEAH BECAUSE MILLIE CC IT
TO COME UP IN. START WITH
PRESENTATIONS THERE.
SURE FISH AND WILDLIFE BECAUSE
THE COMMISSION STATE LANDS OCEAN
PROTECTION COUNCIL TO COME UP AS
WELL BERMAN FINANCE THEN WILL BE
READY TO WORK JUST GREAT AND
QUESTIONS SO THANK YOU FOR THAT-
KRIV KITCHEN. GO AHEAD DEBT WHEN
READY. MIKE FELON OKAY PERFECT.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS
MY NAME IS ELI HARLAND AND I AM
PART OF THE CLIMATE INITIATIVES
BRANCH WITHIN THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION CITING
TRANSMISSION AND ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION DIVISION. OUR
DIVISION DIRECTOR ELIZABETH
HUBER IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND
SHE ASKED IF I COULD PRESENT
THIS MORNING. OSHER WINDOWS BEEN
A PART OF MY WORK PORTFOLIO
SINCE THE FIRST YEAR OF OCEAN
ENERGY MANAGEMENT
INTERGOVERNMENTAL TASK FORCE
MEETING NEARLY SEVEN YEARS AGO.
I WAS ASKED TO SUMMARIZE THE
ASSEMBLY BILL FIVE TWENTY FIVE
CONCEPTUAL PERMIT ROADMAP WHICH
I ALONG WITH OTHERS AT THE CDC
AND OTHER STATE AGENCIES THAT
ARE HERE TODAY WORKED ON. FIRST
THE Y. CALIFORNIA PARTICULARLY
THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL COAST
REGIONS HAVE SOME OF THE BEST
OFFSHORE WIND RESOURCES IN THE
COUNTRY. IT REQUIRES FLOATING
TECHNOLOGY AND FLOATING OFFSHORE
WIND IS EMERGING AS A PROMISING
SOURCE OF RENEWABLE ENERGY
GENERATION ACROSS THE GLOBE THE
DEVELOPMENT OF FLOATING OFFSHORE
WIND CALIFORNIA CAN DIVERSE
DIVERSIFIED THE STATE'S ENERGY
PORTFOLIO AND PROVIDES AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR GOOD PAYING JOBS
AND STATEWIDE ECONOMIC BENEFITS
. FLOATING OFFSHORE WIND AT
SCALE. CERTAINLY COULD HAVE
IMPACTS REQUIRES BEST AVAILABLE
SCIENCE TO ENSURE THE PERMITTING
PROCESS AN ASSOCIATE
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS. PROTECT
OCEAN COASTAL RESOURCES. SOME
BACKGROUND ON AB FIVE TWENTY
FIVE. THE BILL REQUIRES THE
ENERGY COMMISSION TO COMPLETE
THREE INTERIM REPORTS THAT ONE
FORMED THE COMPREHENSIVE
ASSEMBLY BILL FIVE TWENTY FIVE
OFFSHORE WIND STRATEGIC PLAN.
THE FIRST IN A REPORT WAS THE
MAXIMUM FEASIBLE CAPACITY OF
MEGAWATT PLANNING GOALS FOR
TWENTY THIRTY AND TWENTY FORTY
FIVE. WHICH RESULTED IN PLANNING
GOALS OF TWO TO FIVE GIGAWATTS
OF OFFSHORE WIND BY TWENTY
THIRTEEN TWENTY FIVE GIGAWATTS
BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE IN FEDERAL
WATERS. THE GIRLS REPORT WAS
ADOPTED IN AUGUST AT ASSISI
BUSINESS MEETING. THE SECOND
COMPLETED INTERIM REPORT WAS THE
PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT OF
ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF OFFSHORE
WIND RELATED TO SEE PORTENT
ESTIMATES AND WORKFORCE
TRAINING. WHICH WAS ALSO ADOPTED
A FEBRUARY TWENTY THIRD BUSINESS
MEETING. C. C. BUSINESS MIDDLE.
THE THIRD AND FINAL IN A REPORT.
ON A PERMITTING ROADMAP PROCESS
WHICH IS ADOPTED MAY TENTH JUST
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO FOLLOWING
PUBLIC AND PARTNER AGENCY INPUT.
ON A CONCEPTUAL ROADMAP THAT WAS
RELEASED EARLIER IN DECEMBER.
THE MAY TENTH REPORT. INCLUDED
SIX APPROACHES- SIX PERMITTING
APPROACHES RAPTURE WHEN WHICH
I'LL TOUCH ON IN JUST A SECOND.
THE REPORT ALSO DESCRIBED A
STAKEHOLDER AND TRAVELING GAUGE
MY PROCESS TO FURTHER DEVELOP
PERMITTING APPROACHES FOR
OFFSHORE WIND. THE INPUT WE
RECEIVED. COMMENT LETTERS AND
DISCUSSIONS WHEN ACROSS MANY
SIMILAR THEMES AT THE FOREFRONT
IS THE IMPORTANCE FOR CONTINUED
ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKEHOLDER
TRAVEL COMMUNITIES. AS WELL AS
CONCURRENT STATE AND FEDERAL
ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT REVIEWS
PURSUANT TO THE NATIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT AND
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
ACT. PUBLIC COMMENT ALSO
INCLUDED THE NEED FOR STRONG
MECHANISM FOR INTERAGENCY
COORDINATION. SOMETIMES A
HIGHLIGHT FROM SOME OF THE
SECTOR'S ENVIRONMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS EMPHASIZED. THE
USE OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW
CHECKLIST POSSIBILITY OF BEING
ABLE TO USE ANY DATA COLLECTION
AS PART OF ANY PERMIT CONDITIONS
. AND ADVOCATED FOR THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF A SCIENCE
ENTITY TO DIRECT THE MONITORING
OF IMPACTS AND RESEARCH
PRIORITIES. WE ALSO HEARD FROM
THE OFFSHORE WIND INDUSTRY THAT
AN AGENCY ASSIGNED TO LEAD OTHER
AGENCIES. AS WELL AS SOME IN THE
INDUSTRY EVEN SUGGESTING THAT
THE ROAD MAP TO FIND A SEQUEL
LEAD AGENCY. AND THE CLEAR
IDENTIFICATION OF SEQUENCING OF
EVENTS REQUIREMENTS AND
TIMELINES. COMMENTS FOR THE
FISHING INDUSTRY GROUPS ON THE
ROAD MAP INCLUDED THEIR SUPPORT
FOR A PROCESS WITH THE FISHING
INDUSTRY IN OCEAN USERS INFORMED
THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY
MANAGEMENT ROSTER WIND FACILITY
SHOULD BE LOCATED. FISHING
INDUSTRY COMMENTED THAT A
PROGRAMMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT OR OTHER
PROGRAMMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEWS FOR THE ENTIRE WEST
COAST SHOULD BE PREPARED BY
PAULA. AND THE NEED FOR AND
MITIGATING IMPACTS IN PROVIDING
COMPENSATION AT THE FISHING
INDUSTRY. TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS
SHARE THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE
INDUSTRIALIZATION OF THE
SHORELINE. THE POSSIBLE IMPACTS
TO A PROPOSED NATIONAL MARINE
SANCTUARY. ENSURING MEANINGFUL
MEANINGFUL TRIBAL CONSULTATION
BASED ON SOUND SCIENCE. AND
TRAVEL MEMBERS. HAVE ASKED FOR
BEING INCLUDED ON ANY INTER
GOVERNMENTAL INTER AGENCY
PARTNERSHIPS AND MAKING
DECISIONS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
IMPACT ALL ANCESTRAL LANDS. THE
FOLLOWING COMMENT HEARING THAT
INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND FROM
TRIBES. SECEDED ELEVATES THE
FINAL PERMITTING ROADMAP WHICH
WAS ADOPTED IN MAY. OF THAT
ROADMAP INCLUDED APPROACHES- FOR
PERMITTING OFFSHORE WIND. ENDS
THE FIRST APPROACH THE FIRST
APPROACH WAS LIKE A COLLECTION
OF CONCEPTS FOR COORDINATING
STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCY-
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS AND
PERMITTING PROCESSES. THAT
REPORT POINTED TO A PREVIOUS BOB
A PREVIOUS BODY CALLED THE
RENEWABLE ENERGY ACTION TEAM AS
A POSSIBLE MODEL. ON WHICH WAS
USED FOR PERMITTING LARGE
RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS IN THE
CALIFORNIA DESERT. IT ALSO
POINTED TO AN EXAMPLE FROM THE
BAY AREA THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY
RESTORATION REGULATORY
INTEGRATION TEAM OR THE BRITS.
WHICH IS EMPLOYED AN INTERAGENCY
APPROACH TO HABITAT RESTORATION
PROJECTS IN THE BAY. AS
MENTIONED THE REPORT ALSO
POINTED BACK TO A DECEMBER
TWENTY TWENTY TWO DOCUMENT THAT
WAS PREPARED BY THE CDC. IT WAS
CALLED THE CONCEPTUAL PERMITTING
ROADMAP WHICH LAID OUT A
PROPOSED INTERAGENCY STRUCTURE
FOR PERMITTING OFFSHORE WIND
ENERGY. THE REPORT ALSO TOUCHED
ON THE POSSIBILITY OF
IDENTIFYING A LEEDS LEAD
COORDINATOR OR LEAD AGENCY THEY
COULD COORDINATE THE AGENCIES-
CONCEPTS FOR CONSOLIDATED STATE
APPLICATION PROCESSES AND
COORDINATED REVIEW. THE REPORT
FURTHER TOUCHED ON THE-
IMPORTANCE OF BEING OF A
SEQUENCE NEPA AND SEQUEL IN THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS AND
THE- IDEAS AROUND HAVING A
PROGRAMMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORTER PROGRAMMATIC
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT-
OR EVEN JUST A PROGRAMMATIC
APPROACH. TO LOOKING AT- NOT
ONLY ADDITIONAL C. SPACES BUT
BEING ABLE TO COMPARE- OUTSIDE
OF CURRENT LEASE AREAS- THE
POTENTIAL IMPACTS OUTSIDE OF
THOSE. THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE
OFFER WHEN PERMITTING ROADMAP
INCLUDE CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS
WITH STAKEHOLDERS TRIBES OF
FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL
AGENCIES- AS WE DEVELOP THESE
PERMITTING APPROACHES EVEN
FURTHER. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THOSE
PUBLIC PROCESSES OVER THE LAST
COUPLE WEEKS IN EARNEST AND THE
CC WILL BE HOLDING A PUBLIC
WORKSHOP ON JUNE SECOND THAT'LL
FOCUS ON. FLESHING OUT SOME MORE
THESE PERMITTING APPROACHES TO
ARRIVE AT A RECOMMENDATION OUR
INTENT IS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE
WHAT HAS BEEN PREPARED. THAT
WORKSHOP IN THE DISCUSSIONS WERE
HAVING AND BE ABLE TO INCLUDE
THAT IN A DRAFT OFFSHORE WIND
STRATEGIC PLAN- THAT'LL INCLUDE-
SEVERAL OTHER CHAPTERS THAT
ADDRESS THE STATUTES THAT ARE
REQUIRED THERE. I THINK LAST I
CAN SHARE FROM MY EXPERIENCE
THAT THERE IS. DEFINITELY A NEED
WE'VE ALWAYS IDENTIFIED A NEED
FOR EARLY INVESTMENT IN TO
AGENCIES AND STAKEHOLDERS- ON
ESPECIALLY AGENCIES WITH
REGULATORY RESPONSIBILITIES. TO
HAVE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO
ENSURE THEY'RE ENGAGED AS THIS
FEDERAL PROCESS UNFOLDS AND WELL
AHEAD OF THE STATE TITLE THAT
PROCESSES. AND ALL THE WAY
THROUGH PROJECT OPERATIONS WITH
THE OTHER AGENCIES TO BE BETTER
AT DESCRIBING COULD SHARE THEIR
INSIGHTS ON THE TIMING OF WHEN
THESE RESOURCES MAKE THE MOST
SENSE. AND HOW RESOURCES OF
ALREADY BEEN USED- TO THAT
EXTENT SO THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY MAKE REMARKS. A LOOK
FORWARD TO THE QUESTIONS AND THE
DISCUSSION. THANK YOU I'M. LET'S
SEE IF WE GO RIGHT INTO
QUESTIONS WITHIN THE
PRESENTATIONS TRENDS THAT WE
WANT TO DO BEFORE. OKAY I'M-
ONLY IT UP AND YOU LET ME TURN
THE CENTER MCGUIRE. IS A TWO
HELP LEADER. THIS. FIRST AND
FOREMOST I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO SAY THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN
BECKER CHAIRMAN BAKER IS.
INCREDIBLY BUSY WITH THE BUDGET
GETTING ALL ISSUES LANDED- AND
TO BE ABLE TO ADVANCE THIS
HEARING TODAY I JUST WANT TO SAY
HOW MUCH APPRECIATED TO HAD TO
HAVE THIS. CONVERSATION AND
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ALL THIS
TOGETHER SIR- IN FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP- SO WE LOOK AT. I HAD
IN COMMENTS AND OBVIOUSLY WE
WANT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM
EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU- I
GUESS MY BOTTOM LINE IN TAKING A
LOOK AT. OUR COASTAL COMMUNITIES
OFFSHORE WIND IS ACTUALLY
CRITICAL THE FUTURE OF THE GREEN
ENERGY- FOR GREEN ENERGY ECONOMY
AND OBVIOUSLY BACKFILLING WHERE
WE NEED TO GO FOR OUR ENERGY TO
MAKE IT. IN I THINK THAT WE CAN
ALL AGREE THAT THIS STATE HAS
TALKED A BIG GAME WHEN IT COMES
TO OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY- SO MANY
OF US COULD MYSELF WE WAX
POETICALLY. ABOUT THE NEED TO
DEPLOY AFTER NGUYEN IN AN
EXPEDITED MANNER- WE GRATEFUL
FOR THE GOVERNOR TALKING ABOUT
ADVANCING TO A TWO HUNDRED
SEVENTY DAY JUDICIAL REVIEW- I'M
A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE NEED TO
BE A CUT. THE COASTAL PERMITTING
TIMELINE- I AM BIAS WE HAVE A
PROPOSAL THAT WOULD CUT IT BY
FIVE YEARS WE DESPERATELY NEED
CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT- WHICH
GRATEFUL THAT THE GOVERNOR IS
STANDING BEHIND. ON YET WE DON'T
STAFF OF THE AGENCIES THAT ARE
RESPONSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO GET
THIS NEW GREEN ENERGY SOURCE UP
AND RUNNING. AND NOW GOING TO
SOME SPECIFICS ON THAT. I AM
FRUSTRATED AS I WAS ABLE TO
SHARE WITH THE CHAIR THAT. WE'VE
PUT SOME BANDAIDS ON IT SEMICON
GIMMICKS OF LENDING STAFF FROM
ONE AGENCY TO ANOTHER BUT IT FOR
SERIOUS ABOUT. LANDING THE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
INVESTMENT THAT IS OUT THERE
RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT
THE STATE AGENCIES THAT ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERMITTING
HOW THE RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS
TO BE A TO GET THIS ENERGY
DEPLOYED. AND I THINK THAT WE
CAN ALL AGREE THAT BUDGETS ARE
VALUE STATEMENTS. SO I'M A FIRM
BELIEVER THAT IF WE VALUE-
COMBAT IN THIS CLIMATE CRISIS
AND EXPAND INTO NEW GREEN ENERGY
ECONOMY. AND ENSURING THAT
CALIFORNIANS HAVE THE ENERGY
THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO POWER UP
THEIR HOMES AND THEIR CARS AND
PUBLIC TRANSIT WE'RE GOING TO
NEED TO BE A INVEST IN OFFSHORE
WIND. SO AGAIN THERE'S NO
WHETHER. STATE AND OR OR INDOOR
NATION THAT IS ADVANCED. IN A
BROAD SCALE OFFSHORE WIND
WITHOUT HAVING CENTRALIZED
PROCUREMENT. IT'S GRATEFUL TO
THE GOVERNOR THAT FOCUSING ON
NEXT WE NEED TO GUARANTEED RATE.
TO WE DO NEED TO EXPEDITE
PERMITTING- TO BE ABLE TO GET
THE STATE SIDE. RED TAPE- CUT. I
AND THINK THAT THERE ARE. SOME
VARYING PROPOSALS ON THAT WE
NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THE FEDS
AND DO APPRECIATE YOUR COURT
YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT CORNY
NEPA IN SEQUEL FORMALLY. I'M I
THINK THAT WE NEED TO NOW. IN A
FORMALIZED PROCESS IN STATUTE
BRING ALL STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER
EARLY- TO HAVE A FIRST OF ITS
KIND COAST WIDE. POLICY
DISCUSSION- AND GET IT INTO
STATUTE BECAUSE LEARNING FROM
THE EAST COAST WHERE YOU HAVE
THOSE ELEVEN STATES THAT'S BEEN
A MESS AND IT'S- BEEN LIKE
HERDING CATS TO TRY TO BE A TO
GET EACH OF THOSE STATES. TO
COME TOGETHER AND SPEAK WITH ONE
VOICE WE'RE REALLY LUCKY THAT WE
HAVE SUCH A LARGE COASTLINE WE
CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT BUT I THINK
THAT WE NEED TO BE TO DO THAT
SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. RATHER
THAN LATER WE HAVE TO STAFF UP
APPROPRIATE AGENCIES AND AGAIN.
I I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM MY OWN
OPINION. WE'VE ONE TEMPORARY
STAFF ONE. AT THE COASTAL
COMMISSION. IT'S TEMPORARY. I
DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CONTINUE
TO TALK. ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
OFFSHORE WIND. AND WE'RE NOT
STOPPING UP THE AGENCIES THE
PERMITTING AGENCIES POLICING
AGENCIES APPROPRIATELY. I AM
GRATEFUL TO MISS U. BRIT TO CC
SHE'S A ROCK STAR- I HAVE DEEP
RESPECT FOR HER. AND I HOPE THAT
SHE'S GETTING SOME WELL DESERVED
TIME OFF- EATS AND SHE'S OUT OF
THE COUNTRY. AND I THINK THE
WORLD OF HER I THINK THAT THE
CDC DOES AMAZING WORK. THE CDC
IS OVERFLOWING WITH FUNDS RIGHT
NOW OVERFLOWING WITH FUNDS IF I
COULD JUST BE BLUNT. I'M
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE
ACCOMPLISHED THEIR GOAL BUT- I
AM GOING TO SPEAK MY OWN OPINION
RATHER THAN BEING AN ACTIVE
COLLABORATOR WE NEED TO BE ABLE
TO STAFF UP THE AGENCIES. THAT
ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THIS
DEPLOYMENT. SO I STATEMENTS.
THEY HANDLE THE LEASING. FROM
SHORELINE TO THREE MILES OUT
LONG TERM. WE'RE GONNA NEED TO
STAFF THEM UP FURTHER. LONG TERM
. AT COASTAL COMMISSION BECAUSE
COMMISSION. AND HAPPY TO HEAR
FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THE
DEVELOPMENTAL PERMITS IN THE
CALL SYSTEM. I UNDERSTAND FROM
INDUSTRY IN COMMUNITIES THAT MAY
BE SOME FRUSTRATION WITH THE
COAST COMMISSION BUT IT IS WHAT
IT IS AND FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE
GONNA THEY'RE WILLING TO BE A
CUT THE PERMITTING TIMELINE BY
FIVE FLIPPING YEARS FIVE YEARS.
AND THEY WANT TEMPORARY STAFF I
DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW WE GET
TO THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE DEPLOYMENT OF
OFFSHORE GOING ON SUCH A GRAND
LEVEL YET WE'RE NOT STUFFING OF
THE AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO GET
THERE. THE PC DOES PROCUREMENT
THAT COVERED PART IN A FATAH
OFFICIAL WILDLIFE AT WHICH I'M
GRATEFUL TO THE DIRECTOR IS
PROTECTING MARINE LIFE AND
COASTAL WATERS CAL AYE SO ON
TRANSMISSION. YET WE'RE STILL
NOT. INVESTING MAKE WE VALUE
THIS ENERGY INTO THE AGENCIES
THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN CHARGE
OF THE DEPLOYMENT. OF OUR GREEN
ENERGY FUTURE. SO I'M NOT TRYING
TO BE COUNTRY TODAY. BUT I ALSO
THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE REAL
ABOUT THE FACTS THAT ARE AT HAND
WE HAVE. STAFF THAT. WE HAVE
FUNDED THE CVC ON SO MANY LEVELS
YET THOSE WHO ARE GONNA BE ON
THE FRONT LINES WORKING WITH
INDUSTRY IN COMMUNITIES THE
AGENCIES. DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS
TO DO IT. ESPECIALLY ON SUCH A
GRAND SCALE. THERE'S BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT WAITING TO
BE. INVESTED IN THE STATE AND
THIS INVESTMENT IS. CRITICAL TO
THE FUTURE OF OUR ECONOMY OF IS
ALSO CRITICAL TO MEET OUR ENERGY
NEEDS. WE HAVE BACK FILLED. THE
ENERGY GENERATED LIKELY BY
DIABLO CANYON THAT IS NOT GOING
TO LAST NOR SHOULD IT. SO I HAVE
MORE COMMENTS TODAY I'M HAPPY TO
HAVE YOU REACT I'M PRETTY
FAMILIAR WITH EACH OF THE STAFF
IN ORDER- HOW IT'S ORGANIZED IN
EACH OF THE AGENCIES ARE GONNA
BE TOUCHING THIS- WE'RE NOT
GONNA GET INTO TRANSMISSION
TODAY I THINK THAT'S ALSO THE
KEYS HERE THAT WE NEED TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE A LONG TERM.
CONVERSATION ABOUT- I THINK THAT
THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE A
FUN THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER
NATIONS. LIKE IN GREAT BRITAIN
WHERE THE DEVELOPER COMES AND-
FINDS AND THEN. GIVES THAT OUR
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM BACK TO THE
GOVERNMENT IN THAT CASE IN GREAT
BRITAIN AFTER THE INVESTMENTS
MADE DONE BUT IT'S WITH THE
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT SYSTEM. SO
TODAY JUST FOCUSING ON THESE
AGENCIES MISTER CHAIR HAPPY TO
BE ABLE TO GET. THE TAKE I DON'T
HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS HAVE
DONE SOME RESEARCH AND I WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH. THE
COASTAL COMMISSION IN DISTANT
LANDS FOR THEIR WORK I KNOW THAT
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO I'M
IN THIS IS NOT AT ALL TRYING TO
THROW ROCKS- BUT SIMPLY- FIGURE
OUT HOW WE CAN. INVEST. IN MOVE
THIS ALONG. THANK YOU FOR THOSE
COMMENTS- MAYBE WE'LL SEE THAT-
WE HAVE REACTIONS. FROM IN THE
FOLKS HERE TO US AND REQUIRES
COMMENTS. MISTER. WELL I JUST
WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
KNOWLEDGE GENE- ALL OF OUR WORK
AND- ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING- WHAT WE
HAVE AHEAD OF US IN TERMS OF THE
OPPORTUNITIES- REALLY REALLY
EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITIES. I'M I'M
HAPPY TO PROVIDE REMARKS AND AS
PART OF MY FORMAL PRESENTATION-
I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW. THE CHAIR
WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED- WE'LL
SEE A NEW WE'VE SORT OF TIME
CONSTRAINTS YEARS MAYBE QUICKLY
QUICK REACTIONS AND THEN AND
THEN. WHAT MAYBE WHAT WHAT WE
HAVE TIME TO DIVE IN A LITTLE
DEEPER IN A MOMENT. BUT IN ANY
KIND OF QUICK REACTIONS AND
REALLY GIVE SOME QUESTIONS TO
FOLLOW UP. I WOULD JUST SAY WHAT
HAVING WORKED ON ARCHER WHEN FOR
SEVEN YEARS IN A STATE AGENCY
WITH STATE AGENCIES- IT HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY COLLABORATIVE IT
HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN NECESSARILY
RESOURCE BUT EVERYBODY HAS FOUND
A WAY. TO MAKE IT WORK AND I
WERE AT A YOU KNOW A GOOD
STARTING PLACE AND A GOOD
FOUNDATION- I THINK YOUR POINT
ABOUT SCALE AND TIME- ARE SPOT
ON. AND YOU KNOW WE HOPE TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT ALL OF OUR
REPORTS OF AND ALSO JUST NOTE
THAT ELIZABETH HUMORS- IN EUROPE
BUT NOT ON VACATION OPTIONS
THERE FOR WORK SO THAT'S TOO
BAD. YEAH IN IN THE GUY I THINK
MIGHT BE SINCE THE TURN OF THE
VERY QUICK IS I THINK WE'VE DONE
AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO BE
ON THE SCALE OF THE- THE
INDUSTRY I THINK WHERE WE HAVE
FALLEN SHORT IN AGAIN. I HOPE
I'M NOT COMING OFF AS BEING
CRITICAL BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE
INTENT HERE TODAY I HAVE. GREAT
RESPECT. FOR EACH OF THE
COMMISSION'S- THE C. E. HAS DONE
AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF GROUNDWORK
TO BE A TO CREATE A ROAD MAP FOR
SUCCESS. THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING
TO BE SUCCESSFUL IF WE FIND IT.
AND THE LONGER WE WAIT. THE MORE
CHALLENGE WE'RE GOING TO BE TO
BE ABLE TO GET THIS DEPLOYED. IN
WHERE I. WILL BE CANDID. AT
TIMES THIS STATE. OVER PROMISES
AND UNDER DELIVERS WE TALK. AND
TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THE
CLIMATE IS WE TALK ABOUT HOW
WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION TO NEW
GREEN ENERGY ECONOMY WE TALK
ABOUT HOW FOLKS ARE GOING TO
HAVE. ENOUGH POWER FOR THEIR
CARS AND HOMES. YET WE DON'T ACT
IN AN EXPEDITED MANNER THAT WE
PROTECT OUR VALUES LIKE OUR
COAST. AND CUT THE TIMELINE IN A
BID TO DO THAT WE NEED PEOPLE ON
THE GROUND. IN SO THAT'S- HAVE
NOT SEEN THE ADMINISTRATION
ADVANCE. A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD
HELP STAFF UP TO THE SCALE WE
NEED TO GO. IN THE TIMELINE WE
NEED TO GO TO BE ABLE TO MEET
THESE DEMANDS. YEAH A SAVORY
SPOON PART THAT- BUT ASKING FOR
LAST YEAR SO OR- WHATEVER I MEAN
WITH ANYONE FROM EITHER FROM MAP
. M. WITHIN GOVERNMENT OR IF
WITHIN INDUSTRY AWESOME WHAT'S
YOUR GIVE ME THAT. THAT GIVE ME
THE ROAD MAP FOR OFFSHORE WIND
JUST WE CAN NO FOR ON TRACK
RIGHT LIKE. AND WHAT WE REALLY
SHOOTING FOR AND WHAT ARE THE
KEY MILESTONES WHO'S GOING TO
RUN TRACK AND- JOE COMMITTEE
FROM YESTERDAY FROM THE C. C.
THIS MIGHT BE FROM THAT THE-
THAT THE JUST RECENT REPORT BUT-
THE TIME IT REALLY GOES TO
PLANNING LEASING SITE
ASSESSMENT. REVIEW PROJECT
APPLICATION AND THE RANGERS ARE
BETWEEN SEVEN AND TWELVE YEARS.
AND AND THE SENATE MCGUIRE SAID.
IN THIS IS A CRITICAL RESOURCE
WAS PERFECTLY INVERSELY
CORRELATED RIGHT WITH OUR WITH
OUR SOLAR AND ONSHORE WIND WOULD
REALLY NEED TO DO IS BE TACKLING
THE PEAK. AND AS WE'RE GOING TO
DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OR ELECTRICITY
USES WE- DECARBONIZE BUILDINGS
TRANSPORTATION. AT THIS CAN
BECOME EVEN MORE MORE CRITICAL
SO. I KNOW RESOURCE AG LET'S
TALK ABOUT CUTTING THE GREEN
TAPE AND SO THIS IS A CASE WHERE
WE CERTAINLY. I NEED TO DO THAT
BUT TO SEND REQUIRES POINT- BE
STAFFED UP AS WELL- THAT IN A
YOU KNOW BUT IN A SWITCH JUST AS
AS AS YOU JUST SAID. IN A CORDED
FASHION RIGHT WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THERE'S NOT DUPLICATION. SO
WHILE WE'RE STAFFING UP- WILL
MAKE SURE WE DO THAT IN A- IN A
WAY THAT'S- LOOKING AHEAD TO
THAT THAT COLLABORATION SO THAT
WE'RE NOT- YOU KNOW DUPLICATING.
THAT WHEN H. IS NOT DUPLICATING
THE WORK WORK OF ANOTHER. AND I
THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTE CRITICAL
AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING
IN HERE IN THAT SPIRIT BUT
THAT'S AND WE'RE GONNA
ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO- MAINTAIN SO.
THAT ANY OTHER QUICK REACTIONS
WHAT WILL TRIGGER I'VE SOME MORE
DETAILED QUESTIONS BUT I THINK
THERE'S A FEW THAT THE THOUGHTS
YEAH GO AHEAD CHAIR SENATORS
CHUCK BONHAM I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
FISH AND WILDLIFE. IF I PULLED
MY COLLEAGUES I THINK WE SHARE.
YOU WERE. INTEREST YOUR ENERGY
BUT ALSO YOUR CONCERNS. IN NO
ONE HAS TRIED SOMETHING LIKE
THIS ANYWHERE. IN THE WORLD. IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE CALIFORNIA
CURRENT. WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT
EXISTS NOWHERE ELSE ON THE
PLANET. BUT LIKE YOU WE'RE
LIVING. DALY CLIMATE DISRUPTION
. FOR MY DEPARTMENT WE HAVE THE-
DIFFICULT. ASSIGNMENT OF CLOSING
FISHERIES WHEN THERE'S CLIMATE
IMPACT IN THE OCEAN. THE
WORKLOAD AHEAD TO ACHIEVE THESE
GOALS IS OFTEN TERRIFYING. BUT
WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. WE NEED
TO DO THIS WE NEED TO DO IT NOW
WE NEED TO DO IT CORRECTLY. I
THINK THE GOVERNOR SPOKE WELL
LAST FRIDAY ON THE NEED TO
CREATE A DIFFERENT CALIFORNIA
FOR OUR FUTURE. SO WE APPRECIATE
THE PANEL. AND WE HEAR YOU. WE'D
LIKE TO GET INTO THE DETAILS AS
WE GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS.
CORRECT SO JUST DIGGING DEEP
INTO THE SECRETARY MISTER CHAIR
AREN'T ON- IN LOOK. THIS IS BE
HONEST I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE
AWKWARD WITH- I KNEW. GOING TO
EVERYONE'S WE NEED TO TELL PARTY
LINE TO THE CITY AREN'T SO- THAT
SAID. OKAY HERE WE GO- BUT LOOK
I THINK. HI THERE MY SURE THERE
GO- I THINK THAT IT WE CAN ALL
AGREE THAT ENHANCE RESOURCES
FINANCIAL RESOURCES MEDIAN EACH
IS. THAT THE AGENCIES TO BE ABLE
TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANT TO
ACCOMPLISH. AND WE ARE SEEING A
BURGEONING INDUSTRY- AT OUR
DOORSTEP SO WHAT RESOURCES DOES
THE COASTAL COMMISSION AS LEAD
PERMITTING. AND STATE LANDS
COMMISSION LEAD ON ALL LEASES
OUT TO THREE MILES NEED HERE
ADDITIONALLY IN LONG TERM. THANK
YOU SENATOR KID HOW BIRDS ARE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION-
IF THE LEGISLATURE IN THE
ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO-
PRIORITIZE EXPEDITING PERMITTING
BEYOND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR
EXISTING STAFF- YOU KNOW WE DO
KNOW THE TYPES OF FOLKS THAT WE
WOULD NEED TO BRING ON THE TYPES
OF EXPERTISE TO. TO BE TO BE
PULLED OUT PERMITTING PROCESS
AND MAKE IT GO A LOT FASTER-
THAT WOULD INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL
SCIENTISTS TO DO PERMITTING
EXPERT YOU KNOW AT TECHNICAL
EXPERTS AND ENGINEERING GEOLOGY
ECOLOGY. TRIBAL EXPERTS- AND
THEN ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL
STUFF TO SUPPORT THAT. BUT AGAIN
I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW THERE'S
ANY NUMBER OF WAYS THAT THE
STATE COULD CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD
AND YOU KNOW WE'LL WE'LL BE
WAITING TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
AND THAT COULD MEAN- JUST BEING
OF A GIVE YOU MY OWN EDITORIAL
IN ONE ASPECT I THINK THAT
HAVING BOTH COMMISSIONS HAVING
THEIR OWN- EMPLOYEES WORKING ON
THESE PROJECTS ARE PROBABLY THE
BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. I
KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POTENTIALLY
LOANING IN- STAFF OUT. THAT'S
JUST A BANDAID WHAT WE DID WHEN
IT COMES TO CANNABIS IS THAT WE
BORROWED FROM THE GENERAL FUND-
AND HAVE THE RESIDUAL TAX
DOLLARS PAID BACK THE GENERAL
FUND TO BE A STEP FIVE. STEP UP
CDFW TO BE ABLE TO STAFF UP THE
BUREAU OF CANNABIS CONTROL- IT
WASN'T AN OUTRIGHT ALLOCATION-
BY THE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO
GENERAL FUND MAY I THINK THERE
SEVERAL WAYS THAT WE CAN DO
THIS. BUT I- HAVEN'T. BEEN
DIRECTOR I WANT TO ASK YOU IT
WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY. TO LOOK AT
IN AN EXPEDITED THIS IS A AS
YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FIVE
YEARS CUTTING FIVE YEARS OFF.
THERE WOULD NEED TO BE
ADDITIONAL STAFF ABOVE AND
BEYOND THE ONE TEMPORARY STAFF
THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. WHAT WE
DO KNOW FROM OUR EXPERIENCE OF
COURSE IS THAT FRONT LOADING THE
PROCESS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO
GET THERE SUCCESSFULLY YOU KNOW
THE MORE THAT WE HAVE- THE RIGHT
EXPERTISE AND- FOCUS ON THESE
TOPICS EARLY IN THE PROCESS THE
BETTER. AND SO THAT YOU KNOW
JUST IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WE
WANT TO GO- I THINK THAT IT IS
ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT. THESE ARE
REALLY COMPLEX ISSUES THEY'RE
TECHNICALLY SCIENTIFICALLY
COMPLEX AND SO IT REQUIRES.
LONGER TERM INVESTMENT ON STAFF
IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THEY'RE
UP TO SPEED AND THEN FOCUSED ON
THIS WORK SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE
FORWARD THIS IS LONG TERM I
MEAN. I'M SURE IT IS HERE TO
STAY. THIS IS A THAT FOR ALL OF
OUR AGENCIES THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT EVEN ONCE WE GOT
TURBANS ON THE WATER THIS
DOESN'T GO AWAY FOR US WE HAVE
ONGOING MONITORING REQUIREMENTS
SO IT IS A LONG TERM. INVESTMENT
SO CAN YOU DO IT WITH ONE STAFF.
I CAN'T GO FAST WITH ONE STAFF
RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH I'M
VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT MANAGER.
AND I FAILED INTRODUCED MYSELF
EARLIER SORRY ABOUT THAT
JENNIFER LOOK HAS THE EXECUTIVE
OFFICER OF THE STATE LANDS
COMMISSION- AS SENATOR MCGUIRE
WAS- AT REFERENCE SEEN- WE
MANAGE- THE LANDS AND OFF SHORE
TO THE STATE FEDERAL BOUNDARY.
WE ARE THE LEASING AGENCY FOR
THE STATE OFF SHORE- AS PART OF
THAT FOR WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IN
TERMS OF FEDERAL OFFSHORE WIND
IS. THAT THERE WILL BE FIVE
PROJECTS- ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS
WILL NEED LEASES- FOR THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CROSSES
STATE WATERS TO SHORE FROM THE
STATE LANDS COMMISSION- AS PART
OF THAT PROCESS WE NEED.
BOUNDARY AND SURVEYING THE
STAFF. APPRAISERS WE HAVE TO DO
TRIBAL CONSULTATION
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE-
EVALUATIONS- AND ASSESSMENTS
ALSO LOOKING AT FISHING INDUSTRY
IMPACTS AND MITIGATION
MONITORING AS DR HUCKLE BRIDGE
WAS SAYING- AND THEN ALSO WE
HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
IN OUR LEASE TERMS- END OF LIFE
AND DECOMMISSIONING.
CONSIDERATIONS AS PART OF THE
PROJECT. AND SO A LOT OF WHAT WE
DO AS PART OF THAT YEAH WE DO AS
THE SEQUEL LEAD AGENCY SO
THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT
WILL BE THE SEQUEL LEAD AGENCY
SO THAT MEANS WE WILL ALSO NEED
TO PRIORITIZE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
SCIENTISTS TO HELP MANAGE. THOSE
AND- WE ARE POTENTIALLY LOOKING
AT FIVE E. I. OURS- SO THAT'S
GOING TO TAKE ONE TO TWO YEARS
TO COMPLETE- WITH THAT SAID WE
ARE ALSO THE- PRIMARY LEASING
AGENCY FOR THE STATE FOR
OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS AND WE HAVE
BEEN ANTICIPATING THIS
TRANSITION FOR SOME TIME AND SO.
THROUGH ATTRITION AND
RETIREMENTS AND OTHER THINGS WE
HAVE BEEN RE PRIORITIZING OUR
EXISTING ENGINEERS ARE LOOKING
SISTINE SCIENTISTS ARE EXISTING
ATTORNEYS ARE EXISTING LAND
AGENTS. TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THE
CAPACITY TO MEET THIS MOMENT
WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF
DOING THAT TO- AND THERE'S A LOT
OF WORK AHEAD- BUT THAT'S WHERE
WE STAND. SOME MEN EXECUTIVE
OFFICER ON THAT SAID YOU BELIEVE
WITH. THE TRANSITION THAT'S
HAPPENING WITH OIL AND GAS. AND
THE POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVE A
FOR LOOKING AT AN EXPEDITED
APPROACH RIGHT WHETHER IT'S ON
THE COAST COMMISSION SIDE ON THE
PERMITTING- IT COULD BE ON
ASKING. COURTS TO DO TO DO TO
HONOR GUARANTEED TORN SEVEN DAY
JUDICIAL REVIEW RIGHT. DO YOU
BELIEVE THAT THERE IS
APPROPRIATE STAFF LONG TERM. TO
BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT'S
GOING TO COME THROUGH YOUR SHOP
YEAH I THINK IT AT A LOT OF IT
COMES DOWN TO WHETHER WE WILL BE
THE SEQUEL LEAD AGENCY. ARE NOT
FOR ALL FIVE OF THOSE- PROJECTS
OFFSHORE SO IF YOU ARE IF WE
ARE- AND THEN I THE- IT ALSO
IT'S AT MOVING TARGETS A LITTLE
BIT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU
SENATOR BECAUSE- AT AT THIS TIME
WE DON'T. FULLY UNDERSTAND THE
PACE OF OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS
PLATFORM DECOMMISSIONING WE'RE
CURRENTLY DOING- CONDUCTING
DECOMMISSIONING OF TWO OFFSHORE
FACILITIES WE ALSO HAVE THREE
OTHER STATE PLATFORMS WE ARE
SURE OF THE HORIZON ON THOSE-
THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES PLUS
THE- FEDERAL PLATFORMS THERE'S
EIGHT IN THE PROCESS OF BEING
DECOMMISSIONED OUT SO- WE'RE
JUST. IT'S A MOVING TARGET WE'RE
TRYING TO CREATE THAT CAPACITY
IN HOUSE AT THIS TIME. EXACTLY
BY CERTAIN IN I DON'T OF THE
WORDS INTO YOUR MOUTH METAPHYSIC
OF OFFICER BUT PLEASE PUSH BACK
ON THE THING I MEAN CORRECT. I
THINK THAT WE CAN. HELP ME TO.
DRAG DIRECTOR BOTTOM INTO THE
SAME THING AS WELL BUT LOOK. AT
CDFW WAS STAFFED UP NOT SEEN
FULLY BUT STAFFED UP TO BE ABLE
TO HELP. ASSIST WITH WHAT MAY BE
COMING WITH WORK LOAD- WITH
OFFSHORE WIND. IN ADDITION TO
EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING IN
REGARDS TO THE PROTECTION OF
MARINE LIFE- IN WITHIN THEIR
JURISDICTION. I JUST CAN'T
IMAGINE LONG TERM THAT THE
COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE ABLE
TO. HOLD THE LINE STATUS QUO-
NGUYEN IF YOU'RE GONNA BE
SEQUELAE AGENCY WE HAVE ONE
DEPARTMENTS ALREADY RECEIVING
FINES. THAT IS GONNA BE
PROTECTING MARINE LIFE I JUST
CAN'T IMAGINE. THAT THE STATUS
QUO IS GOING TO BE- IT'S GOING
TO WORK LONG TERM. ESPECIALLY IF
WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO
EXPEDITE THIS. DOOR BUT WORDS IN
YOUR MOUTH BUT I JUST I THINK
THIS IS MY- SIX YEAR FIFTH
YOU'RE SITTING ON THIS. BUDGET
SUB AND I HAVE NOT SEEN A STATE
AGENCY- SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING
TO BE ABLE TO. DO POTENTIALLY
DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF WORK WITH
THE SAME AMOUNT OF- STAFF. AND I
HAVE GREAT RESPECT MANNATECH
ROSTER FOR YOUR TEAM NOT SAYING
THAT THE- BECAUSE THERE. ARE THE
WORK I THINK IT'S JUST AN
ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK HEAD
YOUR WAY. I DON'T TO CURTIS WITH
THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK
AHEAD OF US. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WOULD THINK YOU UP WITH THAT
WILL SURE WHICH MORE DETAILED
QUESTIONS IN ORDER TO- CENTER
DALI AS WELL AND WANTED TO START
WITH THE CC. I'M AND- MAYBE
START WITH WALKING THROUGH YOUR
DEPARTMENT'S ROLE IN- IN THE
RISE FROM IMPACTS MITIGATION
MONITORING AND- TO REVIEW THE
STATE'S ROLE VERSUS THE FEDERAL
ROLE IN. OFFSHORE WIND. SORRY
YES SHARE THE- THOSE AS I
MENTIONED CC'S BEEN ENGAGED IN
AN OFFSHORE WIND SINCE ABOUT
TWENTY SIXTEEN WE'VE- HAD A WE
SERVE AS A ROLE OF HELPING
COORDINATE- OTHER AGENCIES AND
INTERACTING WITH- THE BUREAU OF
OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT. AND
HELPING MANAGE THAT TASK FORCE-
IN THAT PROCESS YOU KNOW WE'VE
HAD TO LEARN A LOT IN THE
ASSESSMENT OF OFFSHORE WIND-
WHEN IT COMES TO. THE
ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING AND
IMPACTS AND STRATEGIES TO
ADDRESS THOSE- WE'RE NOT HAVE A
PERMITTING AGENCY FOR OFFSHORE
WIND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT'S ALWAYS AT THE FOREFRONT
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT- IS
PART OF THE. AB FIVE TWENTY FIVE
IS KIND OF IT REQUIRES US TO
LOOK AT THOSE- WE HAVE A
WORKSHOP- JUNE ONE WHERE WILL BE
LOOKING AT SEE SPACES AS WELL AS
A POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND
STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THOSE-
MONITORING ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE- TOPICS
ALONGSIDE OTHERS THAT ARE. THAT
ARE PRESENTED AT THAT WORKSHOP-
WE ALSO HAVE- IN IN IT IT'S NOT
THE AREA THAT I WORK IN BUT WE
HAVE THE ELECTRIC PROGRAM
INVESTMENT CHARGE- THAT THE
CECE'S RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
DIVISION ADMINISTERS- THERE HAVE
BEEN INVESTMENTS- FROM THAT
PROGRAM. IN TECHNOLOGIES THAT
COULD BE DEVELOPED- TO BE ABLE
TO MONITOR- IN THE IN THE-
PACIFIC OCS- AND IN THOSE
CONDITIONS. SO THAT'S SORT OF
WHERE WE'RE AT AND I THINK THE-
FOR THE CC IS GONNA BE THE OP
THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT REALLY
IDENTIFIES- YOU KNOW WHAT THE
POTENTIAL IMPACTS ARE THE
STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THOSE AND-
AS WE DEVELOP THAT WE WORK. VERY
CLOSELY WITH OUR STATE AGENCIES
AS WELL- WHO- LIVE AND BREATHE
THAT WORLD A LOT MORE THAN WE DO
. GOT IT IN THEM. ANY COMMENTS
ON STATE VERSUS FEDERAL OR HOW
WORLD PLUS WE CAN GATHER WITH.
NO LOCAL AGENCIES BUT THE
FEDERAL AGENCIES AS WELL- YEAH
THROUGH THE INTER GOVERNMENTAL
RENEWABLE ENERGY TASK FORCE- WE
WORK WITH- FEDERAL STATE. LOCAL
AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ON
THAT TASK FORCE IT'S- IT'S AN
INFORMATIONAL. TASK FORCE SO IT
DOESN'T HAVE A DECISION MAKING.
AUTHORITY BUT IT BRINGS
EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT
ISSUES- THE BUREAU OF OCEAN
ENERGY MANAGEMENT TYPICALLY
PULLS US TOGETHER AROUND. A BIG
MILESTONES SO BEFORE THERE WAS A
CALL AREA THEY WOULD HAVE A TASK
TO TASK FORCE MEETING. BEFORE
THERE WAS A LEASE SALE THERE WAS
A TASK FORCE MEETING- BUT THAT'S
NOT THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE
COORDINATE TALK BECAUSE THERE'S
ONLY BEEN FIVE OF THOSE SO THAT
WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TIME. WE'VE
SPENT TIME WITH- WE HAVE REGULAR
MEETINGS WITH PAULA- WHO IS THE
YOU KNOW THE FEDERAL AGENCY
HERE- AND- ALL OF THAT
COORDINATION REALLY I WOULD SAY
RESULTED IN- THE LEASE SALE THAT
OCCURRED LAST YEAR. AND THE WAY
THAT THAT LISA WAS STRUCTURED IN
THE WAY THAT THAT THE RULES AND
THAT LEASE SALE- FROM THINGS
LIKE THE BIDDING CREDITS THAT
WERE INCLUDED TO- STIPULATIONS
THAT RECOGNIZE- OF. CALIFORNIA
PRIORITIES AND VALUES- WE DID
OUR BEST TO TAKE TAKE. PUSH
BONUS FAR AS THEY COULD- AGAINST
THEIR OWN- FEDERAL REGULATIONS
IN THEIR OWN LAWS. AND- YEAH
THAT THAT WORK IS A WEEKLY
BASIS- BE ABLE TO- ARRIVE IN A
LEASE SALE THAT LOOK LIKE
SOMETHING THAT CALIFORNIA COULD-
YOU KNOW GET BEHIND ASCENTIAL.
THIS QUESTION OF SIN REQUIRES.
INFO ON THE SITE WHEN I WAS ME
WAS A FEDERAL OFFICIALS THIS IS-
AND OF LAST YEAR. THERE'S A
FEDERAL BILL TO TRY ALLOW LOCAL
COMMUNITIES TO RETAIN SOME OF
THE- MONEY FOR THE LEASING THING
AT ALL BECAUSE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. THE TWO DAY- ANY
UPDATE ON THAT OR ANY ANY IS
THAT STILL AN EFFORT- BINDING IN
THE IN CONGRESS YOU KNOW YEAH
I'M I HAVEN'T I'M NOT SURE IF
THAT IF THAT IS WHAT I KNOW I
HAVE SEEN PROPOSALS WHERE-
REVENUES THAT ARE RAISED FROM
THE LEASE SALES WOULD BE- UP.
APPROPRIATED TO LOCAL
COMMUNITIES THERE'S A FORMULA
THERE I'M NOT SURE ON THE
STATUS. OF WHAT THAT IS BUT YOU
LEAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
GENERALLY I KNOW THERE WAS A
BILL THAT- THAT WAS TRYING TO
CHANGE THAT BUT WE'LL SEE IF WE
GET ANY UPDATES. ON THAT I'M- IT
. TWO TWO COULD- WHICH FROM
PERMITTING ROADMAP. THAT DISEASE
CC PLAN OF FUNDING IN THE SYRUP
FOR OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY
DEVELOPMENT- SO I KNOW THAT
THAT'S GOOD THE SYRUP IS THE
THAT CLEAN ENERGY RELIABILITY
INVESTMENT PLAN YEAH THAT MONEY
FOR OFFSHORE WIND YET CRACKED
DOWN THERE I KNOW THAT THAT'S
THAT. THE NEXT TOPIC IN THE
HEARING- BUT THE LINE ITEM
THAT'S THAT'S IN THERE- MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S AN
EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF THINGS
THAT COULD BE FUNDED FOR THAT
LINE ITEM WHICH IS RELATED TO-
TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR STUDIES-
AND SO I THINK THERE'S- MORE
TIME TO WORK THROUGH. EXACTLY
HOW THOSE MONIES ARE SPENT
AFTER- OR IF THEY ARE
APPROPRIATED- AND DAVID EARNED
WHOSE MY COLLEAGUE WHO'S GOING
TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ZERO
PROGRAM LATER. I THINK COULD
HAVE A BETTER- SO BECAUSE OF
THAT RESPONSE WAS TO THAT. I'M A
LONG QUESTION RICHMOND. THE YES
IT'S WITH WHICH IS PERFORMED
MILLION APPROVED. FOR CC N. PLAN
FOR UPGRADES AT PORT IN AB TWO
OH NINE. YEAH AND SOME STICKERS
IT'S ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE
ROLE OF THAT MONEY. YEAH THIS IS
WINTER THE C. SEASON THEY WANTED
TO GO NEED TO GO THROUGH THE
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT.
GET THEIR GUIDELINES APPROVED
THROUGH THE OFFICE OF
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW. WHICH WOULD
TAKE AT LEAST A YEAR. THAT'S A
LABOR RESULT CALIFORNIA FAILING
TO MEET ITS TWENTY THIRTY TWENTY
THIRTY FOUR TARGETS THE PHONE
BILLS REMAINS ON TRACK. IS SEE
SEE WHERE THESE TIME CONCERNS
AND- WHAT YOU DOING TO HELP MOVE
THAT MONEY OUT FASTER- YEAH WE
HAVE WE HAVE. HEARD FROM- MOSTLY
FROM FROM PORT- PORT AUTHORITIES
AND HARBORS- THAT THAT MONEY IS
SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD. LIKE
TO SEE REALLY SOON- AND HAVE
THAT AVAILABLE- THAT PACKAGE WAS
PASSED AS PART OF AB TWO OH NINE
WHICH IS A MUCH LARGER PACKAGE
OF PROGRAMS I THINK- AS SENATOR
MCGUIRE HAD MENTIONED- THAT THE
CC DID RECEIVE LARGE
APPROPRIATIONS LAST YEAR- AND
IT'S ONE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH-
I WOULDN'T. DEFINITIVELY SAY
THAT THERE IS- HAS TO BE A
PARTICULAR PROCESS THAT WE HAVE
TO GO THROUGH BEFORE THOSE FUNDS
CAN BE RELEASED BUT WE DO NEED
TO HAVE A PROCESS THAT'S PUBLIC.
AND THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC INPUT ON
HOW WE GO ABOUT FINDING THOSE-
THE ACTUAL MECHANISM I THINK WE
ARE STILL EXPLORING HOW TO DO
THAT- IF THERE IS- IF WE'RE
GOING THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATOR
FOR GOING TO THE- ADMINISTRATIVE
PROCEDURES ACT THE APA ACT IT.
DOES POTENTIALLY OUT SOMETIME TO
THAT BECAUSE- IN ORDER TO GET TO
A SOLICITATION TO GET MONEY ON
THE STREET YOU HAVE TO JUMP
THROUGH AND PASSED THROUGH THOSE
THOSE HOOPS FIRST- SO THAT CAN
ADD TIME BUT WE'RE INVESTIGATING
HOW WE CAN DO THAT. WITH A
ROBUST PUBLIC PROCESS UP FRONT
TO GET INPUT INTO THAT PROGRAM.
IT'S GOT A FOUR YEAR LIMIT ON
THE LIQUIDATION PERIOD AND A
FOUR YEAR LIMIT ON SPENDING SO.
IT IS ENVISIONED AS A PROGRAM
THAT'S- AVAILABLE FOR QUITE
SOMETIME. GOOD WELL THANK YOU I
MEAN THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE VERY
MUCH FOR TO ME SURE THAT WHAT
WENT TIME SO THAT WE CAN. TRY TO
HIT THOSE TWENTY THIRTY GOALS IN
THIS IS THIS IS A PIECE OF THAT-
YET AGAIN WE THANK YOU FOR THIS
REPORT- THAT WHICH IS WE HAVE A
CHANCE WITH YOU ALL THE DETAILS
BUT WE GOING. GOING THROUGH
THAT- BUTTON THANK YOU FOR
DRESSES PART WE WILL LOVE TO
STAY ON TOP OF THAT ISSUE WITH
YOU. I'M I WANTED TO. THE
AWARDEES- FOR THIS THE
SOLICITATION FOR THE DANCED.
ADVANCING FOR A MIDDLE
MONITORING TECHNOLOGIES SO
ANOTHER THREE AWARDEES. AND
MAYBE COULD TELL US ABOUT THIS
PROJECT AND HOW ARE THEY CAN BE
HELPFUL. IN DEVELOPING AN
OPERATING OFFSHORE WIND
PROJECTS. YEAH THE- THE AWARDEES
YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING MATTER
FROM A SOLICITATION THAT THE ARE
ARE IN OUR RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT DIVISION- RELEASED
AND MADE- PROPOSED AWARD SO-
RIGHT NOW THOSE WORDS HAVE NOT.
BEEN APPROVED BY THE C. SEED A
BUSINESS MEETING BUT- THEY'VE
GONE THROUGH THE SCREENING IN
THE SCORING IN THE SELECTION
CRITERIA- OF THE CC AND SO RIGHT
NOW THEY'RE PROPOSED IN AND
BEING. BEING NEGOTIATED- THE
PURPOSE OF THAT SOLICITATION WAS
TO- WHO WAS TO RECEIVE PROPOSALS
FROM ORGANIZATIONS- PROPOSING.
TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGIES THAT
DON'T NECESSARILY EXIST TODAY-
AND THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE- FOR
MONITORING- THE POTENTIAL
IMPACTS OF THE INTERACTION OF
FLOATING OFFSHORE WIND SYSTEMS
WHICH- INCLUDE TURBINES THEY
INCLUDE A FOUNDATION AND THEN
THEY ALSO INCLUDE MOORING CABLES
AND ANCHORS- AND THE ABILITY TO
MONITOR- HOW THOSE ARE
INTERACTING WITH THE OCEAN
ENVIRONMENT- WE SEE EARLY ON AS-
AS A VERY IMPORTANT. COMPONENT
OF THE STRATEGY HERE BECAUSE
YOU'RE GONNA REACH MOMENTS
WHERE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE BEST
DANCER IN THE WORLD ABOUT WHAT
IS THE IMPACT WHAT IS NOT THE
IMPACT AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS
WELL IF WE DON'T QUITE KNOW BUT
WE HAVE A RANGE OF WITH THOSE
COULD BE OR WE HAVE AN
UNDERSTANDING. HOW DO WE MONITOR
AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
EVALUATE THOSE AND SEE THOSE.
AND WITHOUT THE TECHNOLOGY
AVAILABLE AT THE MOMENT THAT YOU
KNOW A DECISION MAKER OR
SOMEBODY WHO'S INVESTING. IN
THESE PROJECTS HAS TO MAKE THAT
DECISION. IT MAY TAKE YOU LONGER
SO THESE THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT
THAT WORD THESE RESEARCH
PROJECTS ARE NOT GOING. INTO THE
OCEAN THIRTEEN HUNDRED METERS
DEEP TOMORROW- THEY ARE BEING
TESTED DEVELOPED IN THE LAB SO
THAT THEY CAN BE AVAILABLE AT
THE MOMENT. WHERE'D LIKE I SAID
A DECISION MAKER SOMEBODY MAKING
AN INVESTMENT CAN HAVE
CONFIDENCE THAT THERE'S A
TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTS. BEYOND
THE THREE PROJECTS ALL TO SAY
ONE IS. LAWRENCE BERKELEY
NATIONAL LAB- AND THEY'RE
DEVELOPING SENSORS- AND THE
SENSORS ARE ARE USED TO DETECT
THE PRESENCE OF MARINE MAMMALS.
THE SHOTS ENERGY RESEARCH
CENTER- WILL BE. OF DEVELOPING
AN INTEGRATED MONITORING SYSTEM-
FOR TURBINES AS WELL AS FOR
PLATFORMS- AND THEY'LL BE
LOOKING AT AT. AT HOW TO GET
AROUND- ASSESSING ENTANGLEMENT
HAZARDS AND AN INTEGRAL
CONSULTING IS THE THIRD PROJECT-
AND THEY WILL- ALSO BE-
DEVELOPING SENSORS THAT ALLOW
FOR THREE D. VISIONING. AT
PROJECTS THAT PROJECT SITES.
GREAT ARE YOU YOU KNOW I WENT
OUT TO SEE THE FOOT OFFSHORE
WIND IN. PORTUGAL QUITE A ROCKY
RIDE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE.
THE M. YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE THEY'VE
BEEN DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE
EFFECTS OF THE NOT EXACTLY WHAT
WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE BUT ARE
YOU- LOOKING TO SEE WHAT'S
WORKING AND- THESE OTHER
DEPLOYMENTS AROUND THE WORLD AND
WHAT TECHNOLOGIES ARE OUT THERE.
YEAH ABSOLUTELY BUT WHAT'S WHAT
WE STARTED WITH- IMHO USE WITH.
DENMARK AND WITH SCOTLAND- BACK
IN TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN AND
DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS WITH
NORWAY AND OTHER- PAN PACIFIC
COUNTRIES- AND MOST OF THOSE
HAVE WERE FOCUSED ON FIX BOTTOM-
BUT IT WAS CLEAR THOSE COUNTRIES
HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT
FLOATING TECHNOLOGY- BEFORE WE
HADN'T SO. WE DEFINITELY DO OUR
BEST TO REACH OVER AND FIGURE
OUT- WHAT KIND OF LESSONS
LEARNED OR EXPERIENCES THAT WE
CAN TAKE THAT WOULD APPLY TO
CALIFORNIA- THAT'S ACTUAR DIAL
ELIZABETH YOU WERE IS CURRENTLY
IN IN NORWAY- WITH THE CHAIR THE
CC- WITH THE CHAIR OF THE
COASTAL COMMISSION- AND THEY'RE
THERE TO GO AND LOOK AT A-
PRETTY RECENTLY. INSTALLED
FLOATING OFFSHORE WIND SYSTEM.
YEAH I KNOW SIX MEMBER FRIEND OF
MINE. WORKING WITH THE HEALTHY
PRINCE WILL POWER YOU OF THIS
FIFTY YEARS AGO- THAT NOW THERE
THE OTHER TWO. BEING USED IN
SOME FLOATING PLAY. BASED IN THE
SOUTH HEARING HEALTH- SO- AS TO
THIS TAKES A LONG TIME ARE THERE
OTHER BIOLOGICAL ECOLOGICAL
ISSUES YOU ANTICIPATE NEED NEED
TO BE ADDRESSED WITH ADDITIONAL
RESEARCH AND- MONITORING
PROJECTS. YEAH ABSOLUTELY- THAT
BE A PART OF IT AB FIVE TWENTY
FIVE- FIVE TWENTY FIVE STRATEGIC
PLAN WILL- YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY
IDENTIFY WITH SOME OF THOSE GAPS
ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA.
DELIGHT AND IF I IT'S NOT GOING
TO BOMB LAID OUT THE BLUEPRINT
FOR EVERYTHING IT'S GOT THAT
THERE'S GONNA BE PLACES WHERE WE
HAVE UNKNOWNS. AND I THINK THAT
WILL BE ABLE TO LAY OUT IN THOSE
GAPS THERE- I'D SAY THE OTHER
AGENCIES THAT ARE THAT ARE
SITTING HERE- DEFINITELY HAVE
THEIR OWN- WORKSTREAMS THAT
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE BRING YOU
KNOW ALL OF THEIR EXPERTS
TOGETHER OUR- SYSTEM DOES
IMPACTS. EXCELLENT WILL MOVE ON
- WHERE IS THE- IS THAT. MUTUAL
TO MICRO AGENCIES WILL TURN OVER
TO CENTER. CENTER DOLLY- MR WITH
OCEAN PER. COUNCIL YEAH- EXACTLY
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO-
WHAT ROLE IS IN PROTECTION K.
HAVE OFFSHORE ENERGY. THE
PROJECTS. THANK YOU CHAIR AND
MA'AM AND CAN SENATOR DOLLY- MY
NAME'S JANET ON THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR AT THE OCEAN PROTECTION
COUNCIL. AND THOSE REJECTION
COUNCIL THE STATE POLICY
AGENCIES SO WE ARE NOT A
REGULATORY AGENCY OUR ROLE IN
OFFSHORE WIND IS TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE THE BEST AVAILABLE
SCIENCE THAT'S INFORMING THE
SUITABLE. AREAS FOR OFFSHORE
WIND DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE CAN
ACCELERATE OUR CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS WHILE ALSO MINIMIZING
IMPACTS TO MARINE LIFE AND
HABITATS TO TRIBES AND CULTURAL
RESOURCES TO COASTAL COMMUNITIES
AND TO FISHERIES. SO WE HAVE
MADE SOME XCELERATED
INVESTMENTS- IN ENVIRONMENTAL
MONITORING TO HELP INFORM-
PLACES WHERE WE SHOULD BE
FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION I'M TO
MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS AND- WE
HAVE ALSO INVESTED IN- FISHING
GROUND MAPPING AND CULTURAL
RESOURCE INVENTORIES TO REALLY
START TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE.
AREAS OF CONFLICT ARE THAT WE
SHOULD BE AVOIDING THAT BEING
SAD AND BUILDING ON- THAT THE
FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM
MY COLLEAGUES AND WE HAVE A LOT
OF WORK TO DO THIS IS NEW IN
CALIFORNIA- WELL WE HAVE SOME.
LESSONS WE CAN LEARN FROM FROM
EUROPE- IT'S NEW OUR SHORELINE
IS DIFFERENT OUR CONTINENTAL
SHELF DROPS DEEPLY I AM VERY
CLOSE TO SHORE. AND OUR
ECOSYSTEM IS UNIQUE AND SO WE-
NEED TO HAVE EARLY AND ONGOING
MONITORING SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND
THE BASELINE. THE SITUATION
THAT'S HAPPENING DURING
CONSTRUCTION I'M AND ONGOING
OPERATIONS SO THE OCEAN
PROTECTION COUNCIL ACTUALLY JUST
RELEASED A SOLICITATION LAST
WEEK. TO DEVELOP- ENVIRONMENTAL
MONITORING GUIDANCE AND THIS
WILL LAY OUT A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW
WE'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND AND
THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF VARIOUS
SKILLS RIGHT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT
THE PROJECT LEVEL AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING CUMULATIVELY. AT A
REGIONAL OR STATEWIDE SCALE SO
THAT'S AND WE HAVE A LOT OF.
INFORMATION THAT WE CAN WE CAN
WORK FROM NOW WE HAVE AN
UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE MARINE
MAMMALS OR SEABIRDS MIGHT BE.
I'M PRESENT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE A
CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF IS THE
SENSITIVITY I'M SO JUST BECAUSE-
I A SPECIES IS IN A PLACE AT A
CERTAIN TIME DOESN'T NECESSARILY
MEAN- IT COULD BE IMPACTED OR
COULD BE IMPACT EXIT
SIGNIFICANTLY SO WE'RE STILL
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. THOSE
PIECES- AND I DO WANNA IN. THAT
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY
CLOSELY WITH ALL OF MY
COLLEAGUES HERE- THAT
COORDINATION AND ONGOING
COLLABORATION AND THE LEVERAGING
OF EXPERTISE AND RESOURCES IS
CRITICAL IN IS THE WAY THAT
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER ON THIS- REALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUE. THANK YOU FOR
THAT I'M- ANM. I THINK YOU'VE
YOU PARTLY ANSWERED THIS BUT
IT'S- IS TO THIS FRAMEWORK IS
LOOKING AT THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE
DIVERSITY SPECIES HABITAT USES
STRESSORS. IN THE PACIFIC COAST
WATERS AND KIND OF LOOKING AT.
GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE IS THAT IS
THAT RIGHT. YES WE HAVE EARLY-
MODELING NOW THAT'S LOOKING ADS-
YOU KNOW THE PRESENCE AND
DISTRIBUTION OF SPECIES ARE
ALSO- OVERLAYING THAT WITH THE-
THAT FISHERIES MAPPING GROUNDS
AND THOSE ARE THE KEY INPUTS
THAT ARE SERVING- TO INFORM CEEC
AND OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORT ON R.
OR C. SPACE ANALYSIS. ON BUT
THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS
RIGHT WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS
BEFORE AND SO WE HAVE WE HAVE
QUESTIONS- AS ELI MENTIONED.
ABOUT IMPACTS TO YOU KNOW MARINE
MAMMALS TO BIRDS TO BATS-
UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS OF-
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE MOORING
THE CABLING I'M HOW WE'RE
BRINGING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ON
SHORE AND- QUESTIONS ABOUT
IMPACTS TO THE OCEANOGRAPHY ARE
WE GONNA SEE CHANGES AN
APPALLING. I'M AND REALLY
CONFLICTS ALSO- AND AROUND
EXISTING USES SO FISHING
ACTIVITIES SHIPPING- AND REALLY
MAKING SURE THAT WERE ALSO BEING
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IMPACTS TO
COASTAL COMMUNITIES IN INCLUDING
TRIBES WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW
CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT VIEW
SAD'S- AND ALSO- RESOURCE
IMPLICATIONS. THAT WE NEED TO BE
REALLY FOCUSED ON. OKAY
EXCELLENT MY RECOLLECTION OF
TRYING TO FIND IT BUT THAT WE
WERE PORTUGAL THAT. OTHER
CONCERNS ON THE MARINE AT LEAST
THAT ASPECT WAS PROVED TO BE-
YOU'RE NOT REALIZED THAT THAT
THERE ACTUALLY WERE- ERECTED
THOSE POTENTIAL FACTS WERE
NEGATIVE AS WERE NOT HAPPENING
HERE TO COME ON THE- I WAS JUST
GOING TO ADD THAT I'M PART OF
THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE'VE
ALL BEEN GOING THROUGH WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE
REASON WHY WE'RE- SEEING
PROPOSALS- AND LEASES TWENTY
MILES OFF SHORE IS THAT. THERE'S
THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING
THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY
MINIMIZE- MANY OF THOSE IMPACTS
I'M BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING SPECIES
WHO ARE- YOU KNOW SPENDING MUCH
MORE OF THEIR TIME CLOSER TO
SHORE SO WE'VE BEEN VERY
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. IN THE
PLANNING IN THE LEASING PROCESS
TO DATE. RIGHT I'M- HERE AND-
DOES YOUR SPECIAL COUNSEL HAVE
THE STAFF AND FUNDING IT IT
NEEDS AS PART OF THIS. SO RIGHT
NOW WE HAVE A ONE LIMITED TERM-
ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST WHO IS
IN HER SECOND YEAR OF THAT TWO
YEAR TERM PERIOD I'M SHE'S OUR
LEAD. AT THERE'S SOME LIMITED
ACTIVITY BY MYSELF AND ANOTHER
SENIOR SCIENTISTS WORKING ON
THIS- AND SO I THINK AS YOU
HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
UNDERSTANDING THE PACE OF HOW
WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS I'M IS
REALLY IMPORTANT I WE WILL
LIKELY- NEED TO THINK ABOUT KIND
OF SHIFTING PROGRAM PRIORITIES
AND INVESTMENT PRIORITIES IF
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON A AN
ACCELERATED. PACE TO GET THIS
DONE. I'M EXCELLENT SO I GUESS
THE- TURNING OVER TO- MISTOOK A
BRIDGE YOU. THAT ADDRESSES AS
WELL I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE-
THE POSITIONS- MAYBE YOU COULD
JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH AGAIN-
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT'S MOST
POSITIONS ARE AND- AND AGAIN
MAYBE FOR BOTH OF YOU- JUST HOW
CAN WE ENSURE THAT THIS NOT KIND
OF. YOU KNOW WITH THE LEAD TO
DUPLICATION ESSENTIALLY IN IN
THESE EFFORTS. THANK YOU
SENATOR- I THINK IT IN TERMS
THAT WE KNOW THE TYPES OF
EXPERTISE- AND SORT OF BUILDING
ON OUR EXISTING STAFF EXPERTISE
AT THE VARIOUS AGENCIES- AND
THAT INCLUDES BOTH- AT LEAST AT
THE COAST COMMISSION IT'S YOU
KNOW THE JOBS WE HAVE IN FRONT
OF US INCLUDE PERMIT OUT YOU
KNOW PERMIT. ANALYSIS AND ACTUAL
PERMIT WRITING BUT IT ALSO
INCLUDES A LOT OF SCIENCE
SCIENCE SYNTHESIS- ALL OF THE
YOU KNOW THE VARIOUS SCIENCE
QUESTIONS THAT JOHN WAS TALKING
ABOUT ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL
DISTIL INTO PERMIT CONDITIONS
AND REQUIREMENTS AND MONITORING
PLANS. THAT WILL THEN BE
IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE COASTAL
COMMISSION'S REGULATORY PROCESS
SO IN THAT WAY WE WORK WITH OUR
PARTNERS ON THE SCIENCE AND ALSO
WITH CHUCK AND HIS AGENCY- ODD
TO. YOU KNOW TO REALLY
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SCIENCE IS
TELLING US AND THEN WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF-
REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AND
MONITORING AND ADAPTIVE
MANAGEMENT THAT'S ANOTHER THING
WE HAVE REALLY TALK TOO MUCH
ABOUT YET. A LOT OF MONITORING
BUT THE KEY HERE IS THAT THERE
ARE SO MANY UNKNOWNS. THAT WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THESE
SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THEM WHEN
WE DO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT WHAT
THE ACTUAL IMPACTS ARE- SO. YOU
KNOW IN TERMS OF THE COASTAL
COMMISSION WE NEED WE NEED
ADDITIONAL TAX TECHNICAL
EXPERTISE- TO BRING TO BEAR TO
SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS SO YOU
KNOW UNDERSTANDING- SEABED
DYNAMICS AND FROM AN ENGINEERING
STANDPOINT. HOW YOU KNOW AND
DECOMMISSIONING THERE SO MANY
QUESTIONS THAT COME INTO ONCE
YOU PUT IN AND YOU KNOW YOU
NORMA'S PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
TWENTY MILES OUT IN THE OCEAN
WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW DO YOU
BRING IT BACK WHEN IT BREAKS. SO
YOU KNOW UNDERSTANDING THE
ENGINEERING AND GEOLOGY
IMPLICATIONS OF THAT. LET ALONE
THE ECOLOGICAL AS AS SORT OF
JOHN DISCUSSED- WOULD IT WOULD
ALL BE SOMETHING THE CUSTOMERS
WILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERING AS
WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN THERE
ARE LEGAL- ISSUES AS WELL THAT
WILL NEED TO TAKE ON AND THEN
AND THEN THERE'S THE ENGAGEMENT
PIECE WHICH I THINK ALL OF US
HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT
BUT- FRONT LOADING THIS. PROCESS
ON ICE AND I SPOKE TO THAT
EARLIER I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO
A SMOOTHER PROCESS WHEN YOU GET
TO THE PERMITTING STAGE. AND IT
MEANS A LOT OF TIME I AM AND
EFFORT SPENT OUT IN CAN- WITH
TROUBLE GOVERNMENTS. I WAS
FISHING COMMUNITIES LOCAL
COMMUNITIES COMMUNITIES AROUND
PORTS- TO. YOU KNOW. TO KIND OF
ENVISION WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE
FOR THOSE PLACES AND WHAT WHAT
THAT MEANS- IN TERMS OF A
REGULAR OUR OUR REGULATORY
REVIEW. SO I THINK IT'S A WHOLE
HOST OF. DIFFERENT KINDS OF
EXPERTISE IT'LL NEED TO COME TO
BEAR. THANK YOU TRAGICAL VERSION
I SHOULD BE. AT CALL YOU ALL
DIRECTOR I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT-
SO I'M- A GUEST. DIRECTOR COOLEY
JUST TO WRAP UP ON THAT I MEAN.
YOU MENTIONED SPECIES AND
MIGRATION STUDIES IN THOSE CAN
TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS OF THOSE.
GETTING OUT INTO THESE THINGS
THAT CAN BE ON GOING AS WE'RE-
GOING THROUGH THE LEASING AN
ASSESSMENT AND- OF THE OTHER
PROCESSES. YES THEY WERE DOING
AT YES AND APPROACH RIGHT SO
WITH THE MONITORING GUIDANCE
THAT I MENTIONED- THAT WILL
PROVIDE A ROAD MAP FOR THAT LONG
TERM MONITORING FRAMEWORK
THAT'LL PROBABLY TAKE US TWO
YEARS. BUT WE RECOGNIZE- AND
ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR NEAR TERM
RESEARCH AND INFORMATION GAPS
THAT WE NEED TO FILL NOW- AND SO
WE LEAD A BI WEEKLY STATE AGENCY
COORDINATING GROUP. TO GET OUT
THOSE RESEARCH QUESTIONS AND
SOME OF THEM IDENTIFIED IN THE
COASTAL COMMISSION'S AND
CONSISTENCY DETERMINATIONS AND I
THINK ALSO. WILL COME OUT OF-
SAID THE ANALYSIS IN THE AB FIVE
TWO FIVE STRATEGIC PLANS SO WE
ARE. POISED AND READY TO INVEST
IN THOSE NEAR TERM- CRITICAL
MONITORING AND RESEARCH NEEDS.
AND THEN BUILDING OFF OF THAT
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
NOT ONLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
HAPPENING BUT ALSO AS AS DR
COOPER SAID TO ADAPTIVELY MANAGE
. M. OKAY EXCELLENT LET'S. THANK
YOU I'M TRYING TO DIRECTOR
BONHAM. TELL US ABOUT THE- ABOUT
CITY OF W'S. ROLE IN. IN THIS
AND- NO JUST TO AN OFFSHORE WIND
GENERALLY THE MORE. OF THE YEAR
THANK YOU CHAIR SO CHUCK BONHAM
DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
FISH AND WILDLIFE. TWO WEEKS AGO
AT THE PACIFIC OFFSHORE SUMMIT
HERE IN SACRAMENTO I GOT A
SIMILAR QUESTION AND MY ANSWER
WAS. OUR ROLE IN OUR
RESPONSIBILITIES IN OFFSHORE
WIND ARE BOTH HISTORICAL. AND
CONTEMPORARY. WHAT I MEAN WHEN I
SAY HISTORICAL IS. OUR
DEPARTMENT PERHAPS MORE THAN ANY
OTHER IS BEEN IN THE OCEAN SPACE
SINCE THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION. WHICH CREATED THE
BOARD OF FISH COMMISSIONERS. SO
OUR HISTORY IS THE REGULATION OF
WHO CAN CATCH HOW MANY FISH IN
THE OCEAN. AND INVOLVES.
ENFORCING AGAINST BAD ACTORS WHO
ARE FISHING IN PLACES THEY'RE
NOT ALLOWED TO OR OVER LIMIT.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT TOOL TO
ENSURE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF
FISHERIES OVERTIME. BUT OUR ROLE
ISN'T JUST HISTORICAL SO
COMMERCIAL AND RECREATIONAL
FISHING MEN AND WOMEN IN THE
OCEAN ARE KIND OF ONE OF OUR
CORE PEOPLE IF YOU WILL. BUT
WHEN YOU COME TO TWENTY TWENTY
THREE. THIS DYNAMIC IS
CONTEMPORARY BACK THEN WE DIDN'T
ALLOW SPACE FOR TRIBES TO VOICE
IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS NOW WE DO
WE MUST WE WILL IN THE OCEAN
SPACE. SIMILARLY WERE MANAGING
GLOBAL CLIMATE DISRUPTION
DYNAMICS IN THE OCEAN. TOMORROW
CASSIDY WAVES GRAPHIS WHALES
SALMON. AND WE'RE LEARNING
BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED THROUGH.
HAPP'S EXCEPT FOR THE ENERGY
COMMISSION MORE PERMITTING OF
ENERGY ON LAND. THAN ANY OTHER
DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE AS WELL
SO WE HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE
LESSONS LEARNED. ON HOW WE MIGHT
TRANSLATE EXPERIENCE IS NOT
PERMITTING WORLD TO THIS
PERMANENT WORLD SO IT'S
HISTORICAL IT'S CONTEMPORARY.
ANIK RUNS ACROSS COUNTLESS LOS.
WE HAVE THE MARINE LIFE
PROTECTION ACT WE HAVE THE
MARINE LIFE MANAGEMENT ACT WE
HAVE THE FEDERAL FISHERIES
VENUES WHERE THE FEDERAL VENUE
DECIDES WHO CAN CATCH HOW MUCH
OF CERTAIN SPECIES. WE HAVE A
STATE ANALOG FOR THE FISHERIES
THAT ARE FROM SHORE TO THREE
MILES OUT. WE OFTEN ARE OF A
RESPONSIBLE AGENCY IN THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
ACT SPACE. AND OF COURSE ANY.
OPPONENT THAT MAY IMPACT A
DESIGNATED SPECIES THAT'S
ENDANGERED OR THREATENED NEED
SOME FORM OF APPROVAL FROM US.
AND LASTLY I THINK WE SERVE FOR
YOU AND ALL CALIFORNIANS AS YOUR
TRUSTEE. FOR ALL THE CRITTERS.
ALL THE FLOOR IN THE FORM. WHICH
THERE ARE MANY IN THE CALIFORNIA
CURRENT BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE
LIKE IT IN THE WORLD. THANK YOU
ON THAT LAST PART- JUST WILL
PROVIDE- KNOWLEDGE HOW DOES THE
- CRUISER FROM OCEAN PROTECTION
COUNCIL ABOUT. THE SPECIES
MODERNI IN MY CREATION AND SO
HOW DO YOU WORK TOGETHER AND- HE
AND- IN THAT WORK WE WORK
TOGETHER WELL. AND OFTEN THE
OCEAN PROTECTION COUNCIL CAN
SERVE AS AN INCREDIBLE CATALYST
FOR INVESTING IN THE MONITORING
IN THE DATA. IT IS ALSO A PLACE
THAT HAS CONNECTIVITY TO THE
ACADEMIC AND KIND OF
PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING WORLD
AND BIOLOGICAL ECOLOGICAL
ANALYSES. AND YOU'RE SEEING
THOSE TOOLS COME TO BEAR HERE.
SO WHEN I READ THE ASSESSMENTS
COMING OUT OF THE ENERGY
COMMISSION THROUGH AB FIVE
TWENTY FIVE. WHAT I SEE ARE
DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT COULD BE
CHOSEN. FOR EXAMPLE YOU COULD
SCRAP EVERYTHING AND START OVER
AND CREATE A SINGLE ENTITY. YOU
COULD INVEST AND RESPECTIVE
ENTITIES BUT ENSURE
COLLABORATION. MY PERSONAL
PREFERENCE IS TO LEARN FROM WHAT
WE DID ON THE LAND SIDE AND IT
WAS REFERENCE BY ELIZA THE
RENEWAL THE RENEWABLE ENERGY
ACTION TEAM FEDERAL STATE
DYNAMIC. YOU PUT THE RIGHT
PEOPLE ON A TIME CLOCK IN A ROOM
REGULARLY MANAGING INDIVIDUAL
PROJECTS TO GET HIM FROM START
TO SCRATCH. BUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT
HERE IS WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR
YET APPLICATIONS. FOR SPECIFIC
PROJECTS IF YOU USE THE FEDERAL
FOR STEP SAID BOEHM. THEY HAD
PLANNING ANALYSIS THEY HAD
LEASING. MAYBE WE'RE SOMEWHERE
BETWEEN TWO AND THREE LEASING
AND SITE ASSESSMENT. BEFORE YOU
GET TO LAST UP CONSTRUCTION AND
OPERATION. SO I THINK WE WORK
WELL WE HAVE ROOM TO GROW THAT
COLLABORATION AND THAT'S ONE OF
OUR INGREDIENTS FOR SUCCESS HERE
. THANK YOU I'M- SEE THE
GOVERNOR'S JERRY BUDGET INCLUDED
TWENTY FIVE CURRENT POSITIONS
AND SIX POINT FOUR MILLION TO
SEE IF W. FOR PERMITTING ENERGY
. HIJACKS ROUGHLY WHAT PERCENT
OF THESE RESOURCES ARE EXPECTED
TO BE FOCUSED ON. OFFSHORE WIND
ENERGY PROJECTS. GREAT QUESTION
CHERUB TWO ANSWERS TO THAT
QUESTION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO
BUDGET ACT. OUR DEPARTMENT
RECEIVE SIXTEEN POSITIONS TO
DEDICATE TO ENERGY- PERMITTING.
WE TOOK THREE OF THOSE AND THEY
ARE COMMITTED FULL TIME. TO
OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY SO TO
ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST. AND ONE
ATTORNEY. WE'VE ALSO READ
DIRECTED THREE ADDITIONAL STAFF
THREE MORE ENVIRONMENTAL
SCIENTISTS PROGRAM MANAGERS SO
WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX PEOPLE
WORKING ON ENERGY NOW. BUT
YOU'RE ALSO AWARE THAT CURRENTLY
IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE. YOU HAVE A
PROPOSAL GOING THROUGH BOTH
SUBCOMMITTEES FOR FORTY
POSITIONS AND WE'VE TALKED
PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HAVING TWENTY
FIVE OF THOSE POSITIONS.
AVAILABLE FOR ENERGY PROJECTS
AND FIFTEEN FOR WATER. WE COULD
SEE A DEDICATION OF THOSE TWENTY
FIVE ONE OR TWO ALSO BEING
AVAILABLE FOR OFFSHORE. BUT AS
YOU KNOW. THE POSITIONS WE'VE
RECEIVED WHICH- IN THE OFFSHORE
SPACE MAY APPEAR TO BE MORE THAN
OUR COLLEAGUES. SITS IN A BIGGER
CONTEXT OF OUR ONGOING SERVICE
BASED BUDGETING DYNAMIC AT THE
DEPARTMENT. FOR WHICH
ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING IS ONE
OF OUR LARGEST UNDER CAPACITY
AREAS. AND LET ME JUST OFFER MY
OWN PERSONAL VIEW. I THINK IT'S
STILL I KNOW IT'S REWARDING ITS
REGULARLY CHALLENGING. WHETHER
IT'S TRANSPORTATION. HOUSING
ENERGY ON LAND ENERGY NOTION
MOST OF THESE THINGS HAVE SOME
NEXUS WITH OUR DEPARTMENT.
UNLIKE THE OTHER AGENCIES AT
THIS TABLE. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT
ANALYSIS DONE IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR THROUGH MACKENZIE IN THE
PUBLIC SECTOR THROUGH LEAN SIX
SIGMA. A YOU THINK ABOUT THE
INNOVATIVE AND IMPORTANT
PROPOSALS PUT FORWARD LAST
FRIDAY BY THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
EFFICIENCIES. YOU END UP SEEING
THE SAME COMMON DENOMINATORS
OVER AND OVER AND OVER ONE ONE
ASKS HOW DO YOU PERMIT FASTER.
EARLY AND OFTEN. YOU NEED
EVERYONE CONCEIVABLE TALKING
EARLY AND OFTEN. HERE I WOULD
ADD WE NEED DATA. IN INFORMATION
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. TO HELP US
ON THE BACK END. WE WILL NOT
HAVE PERFECT DATA WE WILL BE
FORCED TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH
SOME MEASURE OF UNCERTAINTY.
GETTING INFORMATION GOING NOW IS
BETTER THAN WAITING. BECAUSE ONE
OF THE SINGLE BIGGEST DELAYS IN
PERMITTING IS ARGUMENT OVER THE
RECORD AND THE INFORMATION.
FINALLY WHEN WE GET TO CITING WE
NEED DEVELOPERS TALKING TO ALL
OF US FROM THE GET GO BECAUSE
WHERE YOU PUT SOMETHING IS HOW
YOU AVOID AND MINIMIZE WHICH
RANKS IMPACTS. AND LASTLY ALL
THE ANALYSES TELL YOU AT THE END
OF THE DAY THOSE THINGS PLUS
CAPACITY. OR HOW YOU DEAL WITH
GOING FASTER. WE SEE DOWN THE
FRONT AND WHAT KIND OF DATA
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN RELATION
TO THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE
HAD HERE TODAY YES PICK ANY
TOPIC BUT FOR OUR AREA OF
EXPERTISE A LOT OF WHAT. JIM
MENTIONED IT- PC. MIGRATION
PATTERNS FISHING GROUNDS
PRESENCE ABSENCE- BATS WHAT YOU
MIGHT DO WITH THE TURBINES
THEMSELVES THE ABILITY TO DO
HYDRO PRAYING. HYDROPHONES FOR
TRACKING MAMMALS AS THEY MIGRATE
. AERIAL SURVEYS BOTH SURVEYS
YOU CAN GET INFORMATION OFF THE
TURBINES THEMSELVES. HOW WE
MIGHT GO TO OTHERS PLACES IN THE
WORLD THAT HAVE TESTED SOME
TECHNOLOGY AND SEE WHAT CAN
TRANSPORT INCLUDING THEIR DATA
AND INFORMATION GENERATED. ALL
THOSE THINGS. WHAT THINK YOU M.
AND I THINK YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T
ACTUALLY KIZI. EARLIER RESPONSES
AND REQUIRES QUESTIONS SOME OF
THE STATE LANDS ROLE ANYTHING
GENERALLY WANT TO SAVE FOR A
TURNOVER FOR. OTHER QUESTIONS
YEAH THE ONLY THING I WOULD JUST
ADD TO THIS BROADER DISCUSSION
AND ESPECIALLY IN RESPONSE TO
YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT WE ARE DUPLICATING EFFORTS.
AND I THINK YOU'RE HEARING FROM
ALL OF US ABOUT THE DIFFERENT
INDISCREET ROLES THAT WE ALL
PLAY BUT IMPORTANTLY WHAT YOU'RE
HEARING FROM- DIRECTOR ACTOR LEE
AND DR HUCKLE BRIDGE AND
DIRECTOR BONHAM. AND- IS. ALL
THIS DATA THAT WE NEED- AND
ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED IT'S GOING
TO FINAL INTO THE SECRET
DOCUMENTS THE E. I. OURS THAT
WILL BE PREPARING AND AS PART OF
THAT- OUR GENERAL PRACTICE AS
STATE AGENCIES IS TO WORK
TOGETHER- EARLY ON THAT DOCUMENT
WE SET UP A JOINT REVIEW PANEL
WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS ALL OF
US ARE EXPERTS TO GET TOGETHER.
AND LOOK AT ALL THE DATA ANALYZE
THE IMPACTS COME UP WITH
MITIGATION MEASURES AND
MONITORING AND ADAPTIVE
MANAGEMENT TOGETHER AND RESOLVE
CONFLICTS EARLY BEFORE EVEN A
DRAFT GOES OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO
THAT AS STATE AGENCIES AS LOCAL
AGENCIES AND AS WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WE ARE. LEANING INTO
ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS AND
RESOLVING THAT BEFORE WE EVEN
THAT DRAFT THE I. R. HITS THE
STREETS SO I WANTED TO- JUST
HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE EXAMPLE OF
HOW WE COLLABORATE- IN ORDER TO
MAKE THE SEQUEL PROCESS MORE
EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE. AND
ALSO- MORE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AT
THE END OF THE DAY. GREAT THANK
YOU I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO ALL
OF YOU FOR WHAT I'VE HEARD SO
FAR ABOUT THIS COLLABORATION
ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER IN ABOUT
THE- THE RULES THAT YOU ALL PLAY
IN THIS- REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT
ENDEAVOR. I WITHOUT LATER
OVERDUE CENTER DOLLY. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE
YOU ALL BEING HERE I WANT TO I
WANT TO START OUT WITH THEM.
JUST SOME COMMENTS BECAUSE I
THINK THAT- I VOTED FOR FIVE
TWENTY FIVE I THINK I THOUGHT
THAT WAS A GOOD START TO- YOU
KNOW. OUR OUR LOOK AT. WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO ON OUR CLOSELY
AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAYBE
DRAW A PICTURE FOR MORE I STAND
IN. AND SOME THOUGHTS ON SOME
FEARS I HAVE ASH QUITE FRANKLY
ABOUT THE PACE WERE MOVIE. SO
FIRST OFF. ARGH ORIGINAL GOAL IS
TO HAVE FIVE GIGAWATTS. SO I WE
LOOKED UP HOW MANY. MEGAWATTS
PER WIND TURBINE IT'S TEN TO
TWELVE MEGAWATI'S ARE A LOT
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE ON
LAND THERE AS YOU ALL KNOW. SO
THAT'S- TO GET THE FIVE GIGAWATT
SETS FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN
STRUCTURES TO GET THE FIVE
GIGAWATTS. ACCORDING TO THE MATH
OR ROUGHLY RIGHT THERE. ALONG
OUR COASTLINE. WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AS
FAR AS- YOU KNOW AND THEN WE
HAVE TRANSMISSION. WE HAVE. THE
OTHER THING WE HAVE IS WE DO
HAVE A CONTINENTAL SHELF THAT
DROPS OFF THAT IS VERY DEEP. WE
HAVE CURRENTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT
THAN WHERE YOU. WENT TO SEE THE
PROJECTS IN OR WAS NOR WEAK NOR
NORWAY OR SOMEWHERE SIX MONTHS.
ONE REGION SO I'M FOR THAT YOU
KNOW THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF
GETTING OUT ON THE BOATS BUT- MY
POINT IS THAT. CALIFORNIA'S
DIFFERENT ARE CURRENTS ARE
DIFFERENT OUR AND OUR OUR
WILDLIFE IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT
SO I WANT TO JUST. FOR THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT
ARE. WATCHING THIS PROCESS.
FORWARD SIXTEEN STRUCTURES IN
OUR OCEAN. IS THE FIRST PHASE.
THAT'S AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
TWENTY THIRTY IS THE GOAL. AND I
THINK THAT'S- OVERLY AGGRESSIVE
I THINK WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE MOVING
IN A PLACE THAT IF WE DO IT
WRONG. AND I AND I. I OUT OF ALL
THE PANELISTS HERE I'VE WORKED
WITH THE DIRECTOR BOND A LOT IN
IN ON THE LAND SIDE AND ON THE
OCEAN SIDE OF. A FISH. JUST FISH
MAINLY ARE ARE THE SPECIES THAT
WE'RE TRYING TO. MAKE SURE DON'T
GO EXTINCT WE HAVE WE HAVE LOTS
OF ISSUES IN THOSE AREAS. SO I
WANT TO JUST KIND OF LAID OUT TO
TALK ABOUT IN IN. FIVE TWENTY
FIVE IS THE ROAD MAP. IS THE
ROAD MAP AND WE REALLY DON'T
KNOW SO. AND YOU KNOW. CENTER
MCGUIRE STARTED OUT WITH. WE'RE
GONNA TELL THE PARTY WE'RE GONNA
DO THE PARTY THING. AND I'M I'M
I'M NOT PART OF THAT PARTY. AND
I'M NOT PART OF THE- PEOPLE THAT
WANT TO SEE CALIFORNIA DO IT
WRONG. BECAUSE WE HAVE FEDERAL
MONEY THAT'S IT AVAILABLE. AND
WE HAVE SOME STATE MONEY THAT'S
AVAILABLE AND WE HAVE. PEOPLE
WHO WANT TO DO OFF SHORE WIND
BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S THE
ANSWER TO. OUR GLOBAL CLIMATE
CHANGE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
I DON'T THINK IT'S THE ANSWER I
DON'T THINK THAT. PUTTING FOUR
HUNDRED SIXTEEN STRUCTURES IN
THE FIRST PHASE IS THE ANSWER.
AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOO
FAST SO I WANT TO JUST. PUT THAT
OUT THERE AND THEN THE
FRUSTRATION THAT I HAVE IS WE
HAVE. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE IN A
TRAILER BILL. WHICH PERSONAL
THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT ANY VIEW
THIS IS DIRECTED AT THE POLICIES
HOW THIS PLACE WORKS. YOU GONNA
DO WHAT THEY AGENCIES TELL YOU
TO DO OR THE GUY OR THAT WE TELL
YOU TO DO. AND THE GOVERNOR. AND
I AM OPPOSE THAT I THINK LEASE
BILL SHOULD BE HEARD AND POLICY
COMMITTEES I THINK WE SHOULD
TALK ABOUT. WHAT THE THINGS THAT
THE DIRECTOR BROUGHT UP IS WHAT
THEY DID IN OTHER PLACES AND HOW
WE WOULD. WITH MAJOR FOR THIS IS
ALL GONNA BE DONE. ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE AISLE WITH THE
GOVERNOR. IS GOING TO BE DONE IN
A TRAILER BILL THAT'S SCARY. FOR
CALIFORNIA AND WHAT HAPPENS IS
WHEN YOU MOVE DOWN THAT PATH AND
YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
THEY'RE HARD THEY'RE HARD TO FIX
THE HARD TO CHANGE WHEN YOU
START MAKING THAT DECISION AND-
GIVE YOU PER EXAMPLE. WE HAVE A
BULLET TRAIN THAT WAS MADE IN
THAT. SIMILAR TYPE FASHION
ACTUALLY IT WAS. MORE
BIPARTISAN. AND WE'RE PROMISE
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AND WE'RE
NEVER GOING TO GET. BUT WE'RE
STUCK WITH IT. IT'S HARD TO GET
AWAY FROM IT ONCE YOU. START
MOVING THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK IN
THE NEXT. I THINK WHATEVER THE
CHAIRMAN GOES TO REATTACH ABOUT
CENTRAL PARK PROCUREMENT. WHICH
ONCE YOU HAVE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT. THEY'RE GONNA. TELL
THOSE DEVELOPERS THEY'RE DOING
THOSE WINTERS WE'RE GONNA BUY
YOUR POWER. NOW THE QUESTION I
HAVE IS WHAT'S THE COST THAT
POWER THAT IS A QUESTION I HAVE
FOR THIS PANEL TO. WHAT IS THE
COST OF THAT POWER GOING TO
COST. THE CALIFORNIANS. AND N.
IS THE COST. RELATED TO. THE
ENVIRONMENTAL. IT WHAT WHAT'S
THE M. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THAT
COSTING ENVIRONMENT TO GET THAT
COST. THIS COULD BE TRANSLATED
TO. RATEPAYER THAT IS ACT
ACTUALLY QUESTION HAVE. WELL AT.
IT I THINK THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION HAS THE
PROBABLY THE MOST CURRENT AND
BEST INFORMATION ON COSTS
THEY'VE CONTRACTED WITH- THE
NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY
LABORATORY A COUPLE YEARS AGO-
TO BEGIN UPDATING THEIR- COST
ASSUMPTIONS. IN THEIR-
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN
PROCESS- BUT THE- THE COST
ESTIMATES THAT ARE PREPARED
THERE- ARE. AN ALL IN LEVELIZED
COST OF ENERGY SO THEY DO TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT- THE PROJECT COST
IN THE ASSUMED. MARKUP ON AN
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION THE
LEASING COSTS OTHER SORT OF A-
A- A BIG DAHLE IN COST- THERE'S
A SANCTIONS THAT ARE MADE- IN
THOSE COST ESTIMATES THAT ARE
BASED ON THE TRAJECTORY OF. THE
SCALE OF THE TECHNOLOGY SO- ON
TODAY- THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY
EXPENSIVE ELECTRONS. BYE I DON'T
KNOW PRETTY YEAR ON IT BUT I
THINK I HEARD YOU SEE FEES WHICH
I WAS JUST- HOW I THINK ABOUT IT
AS WELL AB FIVE TWENTY FIVE PUT
THE YEAR ON IT SO. WE THINK
ABOUT A YEAR- BUT I THINK PHASES
IS THE RIGHT WAY- TO SAY THAT
THAT. BY THE TIME YOU GET TO
THAT PHASE IF THE GLOBAL MARKET
HAS- PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWED
CALIFORNIA'S TRAJECTORY WITH
WITH HAVING INSTALLED CAPACITIES
THOSE COSTS TO COME DOWN PRETTY
RAPIDLY- IN THE FUTURE. BUT
THAT'S BASED ON EVERYBODY- SORT
OF TOOLING THEIR ECONOMIES TO
DRIVE THOSE ECONOMIES OF SCALE
DOWN- AND THE MODELS THAT IN A
PC CAN THE CBC CAN TALK ABOUT
THIS MORE- WE'LL BE LOOKING AT
THIS AT THE C. C. WITHIN THE SB
ONE HUNDRED REPORT IT'S GOING TO
BE PREPARED AGAIN THIS YEAR- BUT
YOU CAN SEE. THAT WHEN YOU START
LOOKING AT THAT PEAKS IN FUTURE
YEARS OUT- UNDER HIGH
ELECTRIFICATION DEMAND AND-
TRYING TO FIND RESOURCES THAT
ARE AVAILABLE THAT MEET THE-
CRITERIA OF THESE MODELS SO
THERE YOU KNOW GREENHOUSE GAS.
EMISSION OF GREENHOUSE GASES
FROM THESE THE MODEL WILL FIND
RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT
THOSE TIMES AND START SELECTING
THOSE- SO. LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS
BAKED IN BUT THE MODELS TODAY OR
START. REALLY VALUING THOSE
ELECTRONS EVEN IT AT AT A HIGHER
PRICE I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU
AN EXACT COST ESTIMATES AND HAVE
IT IN FRONT BUT- I'LL TAKE THAT
QUESTION BACK IN AND DEFINITELY
FOLLOW UP. I WOULD APPRECIATE
THAT BECAUSE WE SAW- WHEN WE-
WENT SOLAR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO
GO SOLAR AND WE SAW. CONTRACTORS
HIS. LONG TERM CONTRACTS AS HIGH
AS THIRTY CENTS A KILOWATT IT
DOWN TO TWENTY TWO AND NOW IT'S
DOWN TO. THREE OR FIVE OR
WHATEVER IT IS. VERY LOW- NOT
TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT
THEY GET TAX CREDITS AND ALL
KINDS OF OTHER BENEFITS THAT
DON'T GET COUNTED IN THAT BUT-
THESE THESE ARE GONNA BE THESE
ARE GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
LONG TERM CONTRACTS THAT THAT
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAID FOR
EVENTUALLY BY THE RATEPAYER.
RATEPAYER WILL PAY THE BILL
EVENTUALLY EVEN THOUGH WE'RE
GOING TO FRONT LOAD IT SO I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND SO.
ONE OF THE LAST COMMENTS I WANT
TO MAKE IN THIS IS NOT AS A
QUESTION BUT- I AM VERY NERVOUS
ABOUT THIS AND I THINK THE
PUBLIC SHOULD. REALLY SCRUTINIZE
THIS AND I THINK THE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS WHICH I
HAVE. JUST RECEIVE TODAY. WE
CALL THE NASCAR LETTER OF
ENVIRONMENTAL PEOPLE. THAT ARE
SAYING. WROTE A LETTER TO THE
PRO TEM AND I BELIEVE THE
SPEAKER. SAYING WE NEED TO SLOW
DOWN THIS PROCESS AND ACTUALLY
DO. A LITTLE BETTER JOB AND I'M
WITH THEM ON THAT I THINK WE I
THINK I'M VERY NERVOUS THAT WE-
GET THIS WRONG. AND WE WILL
IT'LL BE LIKE YOU KNOW. THE
SUPERFUND SITES THAT WE HAD WHEN
THEY MIND AND RUIN OUR STREAMS
BECAUSE WE HAD SULFITES GOING IN
OUR STREETS I AM VERY MUCH
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND I
THINK WHEN WE WHEN WE REALLY
LOOK AT THE BROADNESS OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S PUT OUT
THERE AND WHAT WE GET BACK FOR
IT. YOU KNOW A GIGGLE WHAT'S
GONNA SIR SERVE. SEVEN AT A
CCORDING TO YOUR INFORMATION
AROUND SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND
PEOPLE A YEAR. HAVE FORTY
MILLION PEOPLE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE
ON LAND RESOURCES WE HAVE A LOT
OF OTHERS BUT TO GET TO THE- I
THINK WAS THIRTY GIGAWATTS. IF
WE'RE GONNA LECTURE FIVE CARS.
ASSEMBLY WAS THIRTY GIGAWATTS
THAT'S- IT'S A LOT OF
INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE AND A
LOT OF IMPACTS I WANNA MAKE THAT
VERY. CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC IT'S
WATCHING. IT THIS GOES IN A
TRAILER BILL IN THIS GETS JAMMED
THROUGH. THEY OUGHT TO BE
OUTRAGE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE
I THINK WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN.
AND REALLY TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT
HOW WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T
WANT TO GET IT WRONG. SO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. I KNOW
THAT YOU. ARE GOING TO DO WITH.
YOU KNOW A LOT OF THINGS THAT.
YOUR APPOINTED BY PEOPLE YOU'RE
HIRED BY PEOPLE THAT RUN THIS
PLACE AND IT'S NOT- NOT ALL OF
US THAT AGREE WITH HOW WE'RE
GOING FORWARD I THINK THERE'S
SOME OF THE ONES THAT DOWN. AND
SO THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY IT'D AND
WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING DECISIONS
BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IS GIVING US MONEY. AND WE HAVE.
YOU KNOW TAX BREAKS AND WE HAVE
INDUSTRY THAT WANTS TO GO DO IT
WILL RETURN YOUR TESTIMONY
TODAY. AND I'LL GUARANTEE YOU
THE- TRADES WILL BE IN HERE
TELLING US HOW GREAT IT'S GOING
TO BE FOR JOBS. AND THEY TOLD US
THAT FOR THE TRAIN AND THEY TOLD
US THAT FOR A LOT OF THINGS AND
WE WANT GOOD. PAYING JOBS ARE
PRETTY BUT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE
RATE PAYERS. AND ENVIRONMENT
IT'S NOT WORTH IT. SO THANK YOU
AGAIN. THANK YOU ALSO HAVE MY
SOME MY OWN. COMMENTS OF THE
RELATED TO- U. S. ANSWERS TO
CENTER. DOLLARS QUESTIONS ARE
JUST SAY THAT- THANKS. WAS ALSO
IS INCLUSIVE SAYS STORE IN FACT
THAT WE BROUGHT DOWN THE COST OF
SOLAR. SO MUCH AND- IN SO
SOURCES CHEAPEST THING TO BILLS
WE ACTUALLY HAVE. YOU KNOW MANY
DAYS BASICALLY- YOU KNOW ALMOST
FREE ELECTRICITY DO YOU KNOW DO
IT DURING THE DAY AT THIS POINT-
BUT WE REALLY DO HAVE TO FOCUS
ON THOSE PIECES FORTY NINE PM. A
TIME SLOTS AS WELL WHEN MY
LEGISLATION THAT FOCUS ON THE ON
TWENTY FOUR SEVEN. A CLEAN
ENERGY. AN M. AN OFFSHORE WIND
JUST HAS CHIU TREMENDOUS.
PROMISE FOR THAT FOR TWENTY FOUR
SEVEN YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING WITH
BATTERY STORAGE AND WE BUILT TWO
OR THREE. DIABLO CANYON'S WORTH
OF BATTERY STORAGE. IN- JUST
SINCE TWENTY TWENTY- THREADING
STORAGE WORKING NEW LONG
DURATION STORAGE- BUT- BUT THIS
RESOURCE. OF BECAUSE IT PROVIDES
ENERGY RIGHT WHEN. THE US SOLAR
AND OUR ON SHORE WIND IS
DECREASING- IS. REALLY CRITICAL
AND- SENSITIVE SHERMAN IS GONNA
HELP US ACTUALLY BRING DOWN THE
COST AND SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY
BECAUSE- THE LOOK THE LENDERS
AND SUCH WILL SEE THAT THERE IS
A- THAT WE DO HAVE AN OFFTAKE- A
SITUATION AND THEREFORE- WILL
GET BETTER RATES I SHOULD THINK
IT. WILL I DON'T THINK I KNOW
THIS IS GOING TO BRING DOWN THE
COST OF- THE COST TO RATEPAYERS
IF WE HAVE CENTRO. THE CURRENT
WHICH WORKING ON AND WORKING ON
THE CART THE GUARDRAILS AROUND
THAT BUT THAT THAT THAT'S
CRITICAL AS WELL. AND THEN ON
THE- REMITTING THAT SIDE I NEW
SENATOR WILL GREET. THAT
PERMITTING OF THE- SIDE- AS WELL
THINK THAT'S PER WHAT THE GUY
PROPOSALS ARE- BOTH ON THE TREE
. SIDE AS WELL AS- GETTING SOME
THESE RESOURCES UP AND RUNNING.
QUICKLY AS WELL THE CRITICAL.
HARD AS WE SAW LAST YEAR WITH
YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAD THAT
SEPTEMBER. PEAK RIGHT WE'RE
REALLY LOOKING AT THOSE BIG FIVE
TO TEN TO FIFTEEN DAYS OF WE
HAVE EXTREME HEAT THROUGHOUT.
THE NOT JUST IN CALIFORNIA BUT
THROUGHOUT THE WEST A FORTUNE
WILL HAVE MORE HYDRO THIS YEAR
THAN WE DID LAST YEAR SO THAT I
KNOW THAT WILL HELP. REALLY
LOOKING AT THOSE- BY THE TEN TO
FIFTEEN DAYS WHERE YOU KNOW
THERE'S THAT. WHICH YOU HAVE TO
MAKE SURE THE GREAT HOLDS UP AS
IT AS IT DID LAST YEAR. AND
THAT'S WELL SUSPEND SO MUCH
TALENT AT RESPONSES WILL. GET TO
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT IN THE NEXT
SECTION AS WELL AT BECAUSE THAT
HELPS TO SHAVE OFF THAT PEAK. AT
THOSE BUT THOSE CRITICAL
CRITICAL TIME SO. FROM MY
STANDPOINT TO WHAT ALL ABOUT OR
DOING TO- YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK
SEVEN TO TWELVE YEARS IS TOO
FAST I THINK WE AT YOU KNOW MY
BOOK WE MOVE MOVE AS FAST AS
POSSIBLE FOR THIS. THAT THIS
TECHNOLOGY AND APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU ALL ARE DOING- WITH THAT
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO- ISSUE
NUMBER TWO TODAY- WHICH IS THE
SYRUP THE CLEANERS YOU LIVE
INVESTMENT THANK YOU ALL FOR.
BEING HERE FOR YOUR TESTIMONY
HERE AT TODAY. SO WILL INVITE UP
OUR- WITNESS FOR. THAT ISSUE
INCLUDING- STERN THE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE CDC'S TIME BAKER
CONSERVE YOU SEE. DUFFIN WHO
FROM. D. W. R. THANK YOU MUCH
FROM FROM COPAYS AND THAT OF
FINANCE.
GREAT READILY- HERE. AS WELL. SO
LET'S- SHE STARTED TO GET RIGHT
INTO IT TOO I'M WILL BE THE CC
MEETING SOFT. YES I'M HAPPY TO
MAKE SOME INTRICON IT'S GREAT.
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SO HI I'M
DAVID EARNED I'M FIFTY DIRECTOR
OF THE ENERGY ASSISTANCE
DIVISION THE ENERGY COMMISSION.
AND HELP PULL TOGETHER- IN
COLLABORATION WITH THE CPC A
CARBON ACTUALLY W. ARE THE CLEAN
ENERGY RELIABILITY INVESTMENT
PLAN. SB FORTY SIX REQUIRED US
TO DEVELOP THE PLAN- IN PROVIDED
TO YOU BY MARCH FIRST- THE PLAN
WAS TO- LAY OUT A STRATEGY FOR
INVESTING A BILLION DOLLARS- IN
CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES THAT
WOULD SUPPORT BOTH OUR CLEAN
ENERGY GOALS AS WELL AS
RELIABILITY- AND LAY THOSE
INVESTMENTS OUT IN THREE YEARS.
THREE YEAR- TIME FRAME- FIRST
YEAR BEING HUNDRED MILLION
SECOND YOUR FORTY MILLION THIRTY
FIVE MILLION. AND THROUGH THAT-
AND DEVELOPING THAT- REPORT
THROUGH A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS SO
WE DID ENGAGE IN STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS LAST YEAR WE HAD OUR
FIRST- WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER
SOLICITING INPUT FROM
STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL
OPPORTUNITIES TO BE FOR THE
INVESTMENTS. WE ALSO PUT OUT A
REQUEST FOR INFORMATION IN
NOVEMBER AND SOLICITED
ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK RECEIVED A
SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF COMMENTS
FROM STAKEHOLDERS OVER FIFTY
RESPONDERS- PROVIDING US
INSIGHTS ON- DIFFERENT
OPPORTUNITIES TO INVEST THOSE
DOLLARS- THAT INCLUDED-
TECHNOLOGY- FIRMS TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATIONS- UTILITY CCA'S- NON
GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES BOTH.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND OTHER
ASSOCIATIONS PROVIDE US A
SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK
WE ASSESS THAT FEEDBACK AND
COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER
AGENCIES WE DEVELOP THE PLAN AND
LAY THAT OUT PROVIDED- THE PLAN
IN A DRAFT FORM IN EARLY
FEBRUARY- RECEIVE COMMENT ON
THAT. FINALIZE THE PLAN AND THEN
SUBMIT IT. TO OUR- TO THE
COMMISSIONERS FOR ADOPTION AT
THE MARCH AT THE FEBRUARY TWENTY
EIGHTH BUSINESS MEETING TO
PROVIDE YOU BY MARCH FIRST THAT
WAS KIND THE OVERALL PROCESS
THAT WE DEVELOPED FOR THE FOR
THE APPROACH- AND THEN WE GET
INTO THE DETAILS OF THE STRATEGY
THAT WE CAME UP WITH. SO AS WAS
IN OUR PREVIOUS BRIEFING
HEARING- FEW MONTHS AGO WE
TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE MAJOR
CHALLENGES FACING THE STATE.
REGARDING OUR RELIABILITY IN
CLEAN ENERGY PLANS- THAT
INCLUDES THE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR
PLANNING PROCESSES- TO ACCOUNT
FOR CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO ENSURE
THAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT THOSE
RESOURCES THE MOST- EXPEDITED
FASHION. THREE TO SCALE
RESOURCES. BOTH SUPPLY AND
DEMAND SIDE RESOURCES. AND THAT
WE NEED TO AUGMENT FOR
EMERGENCIES- ARE FIRMER- REGENCY
EVENTS- AS SUCH WE DEVELOPED
FOUR DIFFERENT- INVESTMENT.
POCKETS IF YOU WILL- TO SUPPORT
THOSE THREE PRIORITIES. THE
FIRST ONE ENABLES INVESTMENTS SO
THAT WAS BOTH FOR SUPPORTING
PLANNING AND CAPACITY BUILDING-
TO SUPPORT THE BROADER-
INITIATIVES. A VERY LARGE
PORTION OF THE FUNDING IS
ALLOCATED TOWARD SCALING BOTH
DEMAND AND SUPPLY SIDE
RESOURCES. AND A SMALLER AMOUNT
TO AUGMENT THE- STRATEGIC
RELIABILITY RESERVE PARTICULARLY
THE DSG OF THE DEMAND SIDE COULD
SUPPORT PROGRAM IN THE
DISTRIBUTED ELECTRICITY BACK UP
ASSETS PROGRAMS- AND WE ARE
ALIGNED CERTAIN PROJECTS- TO THE
FIRST YEAR VERY DETAILED- LAY
OUT OF FUNDING- AND HAVE-
BROADER CATEGORIES FOR THE
ONGOING FOR THE SUBSEQUENT TWO
YEARS. WHERE WE PUT THE MAJORITY
OF THE- EFFORT ON SCALING BOTH
SUPPLY AND DEMAND SIDE RESOURCES
IN THOSE TWO YEARS WHERE THERE
WAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF
FUNDING WE COULD- INITIATE
PROJECTS THAT ARE MUCH MORE
SUBSTANTIAL. SO THE STRATEGY WAS
FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO ADDRESS
THE PLANNING AND CAPACITY
BUILDING AND THE AND THAT
PLANNING- FOR STATEWIDE PLANNING
BUT ALSO PLANNING FOR THE LARGER
INVESTMENT INVESTMENTS AND
INITIATIVES IN THE SECOND AND
THIRD YEAR- IN ADDITION- THROUGH
THE PROCESS OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT
WE RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF
FEEDBACK ON THE PROCESS- IN AS I
MENTIONED A NUMBER OF
OPPORTUNITIES- WE ALSO RECEIVED
FEEDBACK THAT THEY WOULD LIKE
MORE ENGAGEMENT ON THE PLANNING.
OF THE SCALING OF DEMAND AND
SUPPLY SIDE RESOURCES SO AGAIN
PART OF THAT FIRST YEAR IS
ENGAGING IN THAT GREATER AMOUNT
OF STATE COLORING- INVOLVEMENT-
TO. LAY OUT THE INITIATIVES FOR
THE SUBSEQUENT TWO YEARS- AND I
COULD WALK THROUGH IN MORE
DETAIL- IF YOU LIKE OR I CAN-
TURN IT BACK TO YOU IF YOU HAVE
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU. ASK
ABOUT THE PLAN. MY VIEW MORE
DETAILED RIGHT THAT'S FINE OKAY
. SO FOR THE FIRST YEAR- AGAIN
THAT WAS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON
PLANNING AND ENABLING CAPACITY.
SO THAT INCLUDED- ACTIVITIES TO
ENABLE THE DEPARTMENT WATER
RESOURCES TO STAND UP THE- OF
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM OR
PROCUREMENT FACILITY. AS WELL AS
SUPPORT FOR- CC TO ENGAGE MORE
CLOSELY WITH COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS AND PRIMARILY FOR
A NUMBER OF OUR INITIATIVES THAT
PRIMARILY FOR ENSURING THAT THE
INVESTMENTS. IN YEARS TWO AND
THREE ON BOTH SUPPLY AND I'M
PRIMARILY DEMAND SIDE- ENGAGE
COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT WE
ARE- STRATEGIZING ON THOSE
INITIATIVES IN A WAY THAT
PROVIDES THE GREATEST VALUE TO
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES. AND
PROVIDES FOR AFFORDABILITY FOR
RATE PAYERS AND SO- A GREATER
ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM WILL BE
IMPORTANT WE HAVE. THAT THAT'S
KIND OF BEEN ON ON THEIR DIME SO
TO SPEAK AND WE'RE ASKING MORE
OF THEM AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A
SUPPORT FOR THAT TO ENSURE THAT
WE CAN- ENGAGE WITH THEM EVEN
MORE MOVING FORWARD. WE PUT A
SMALL AMOUNT FOR TRANSMISSION
PLANNING. AS WELL AS AMOUNT FOR-
PERMITTING AND INTERCONNECTION
SUPPORT WHICH I THINK WE
MENTIONED IN OUR PREVIOUS
HEARING THAT IS ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES AS WELL AS- SUPPLY
CHAIN ISSUES FOR GETTING NEW
RESOURCES ONLINE- FOR SCALING
SUPPLY AND DEMAND SIDE RESOURCES
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES
WE PROPOSE UNDER THEIR AT LEAST.
BROAD CATEGORIES ON THE DEMAND
SIDE- AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH
THE OPPORTUNITIES AND WE'RE
HEARING FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS.
WE IDENTIFY THERE ARE QUITE A
FEW DIFFERENT OF PATHS THAT WE
COULD TAKE FOR DEMAND SIDE. IN
ADDITION MANY OF THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM
STAKEHOLDERS WERE- I WOULD SAY-
POTENTIALLY ADD ON'S ARE
SUPPLEMENTAL TO EXISTING
PROGRAMS MAY BE TAKING SYSTEM
PROGRAM AND MAKING IT EVEN
BETTER WITH SOME ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES- AS WELL AS
OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE NEW
INITIATIVES. AND SO AGAIN MORE
TIME TO- IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC
ACTIVITIES FOR THAT DEMAND SIDE
RESOURCES BUT WE DEFINITELY FEEL
IT GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT
DEMAND RESPONSE AND EXPANDING
OUR DEMAND RESPONSE CAPABILITIES
IN THE STATE WOULD BE VERY
VALUABLE. COULD BE THROUGH
ADDING ADDITIONAL CONTROLS- AND
ENSURING THAT THOSE CONTROLS-
ARE AVAILABLE NOT JUST- ON A
DAILY BASIS BUT DURING THOSE NET
PEAK IN THE ON THE HOT DAYS.
THERE BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE-
IN DEPLOYMENT OF STORAGE
PRIMARILY IS TO SUPPORT SOLAR IN
THE STATE AND ALSO ACTIVITIES
ARE OR PROGRAMS AROUND- PANEL
UPGRADES WHICH BECOME DIFFICULT
FOR THOSE WHO ARE INSTALLING
SOLAR AND STORAGE. IS OFTEN
TIMES IF YOU A PANEL UPGRADE
THAT CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO
MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT
PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE IN
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES WHO ARE
ALREADY STRETCHED TO BE ABLE TO
DO THE PANEL UPGRADE CAN BE VERY
DIFFICULT- AS WELL AS
CONSIDERING ACTIVITIES SUCH AS-
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM UPGRADES
AGAIN IN JUSTICE COMMUNITIES
WHERE WE WANT TO. EXPAND
DEPLOYMENT OF DISTRIBUTED
RESOURCES- AND THAT CAN PUT A
STRAIN ON THE DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM COULD WE APPLY SUBMIT
FUNDING TO THE DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM UPGRADES IN A WAY THAT
WOULD. REDUCE THE COST TO RATE
PAYERS AND ENABLE THOSE
RESOURCES TO COME ONLINE. FOR
THE SUPPLY SIDE RESOURCES HAD
KIND OF THREE SEPARATE- TOPIC
AREAS- ONE IS PROVIDING
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR A LONG
LEAD TIME- RESOURCES SUCH AS
THOSE WITH THAT THAT WOULD BE
PROCURED BY THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT FUNCTION- IN EFFECT
PROVIDING THE ABILITY TO HAVE A
BUY DOWN OF SOME OF THOSE
RESOURCES AFFECTED. IF
DETERMINED THAT WAS NECESSARY.
IF NOT WE COULD SUPPLY UTILIZE
THAT ARE THE THAT FUNDING FOR
ADDITIONAL SUPPLY SIDE RESOURCES
IN EXPANDING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
SUCH AS- ADDITIONAL- NON LITHIUM
ION ENERGY STORAGE IT CAN ALL
ALSO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN
LITHIUM ION AND SOMETIMES HARD
TO GET IN- BUT WE DO NEED TO
DIVERSIFY OUR ENERGY STORAGE
RESOURCES. SO THAT WE HAVE MORE
OF THOSE- ENERGY STORAGE
RESOURCES ONLINE AND THAT CAN BE
DIFFICULT WERE WERE FOCUSING
PRIMARILY ON WITH THE MIND-
ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE LONG
DURATION ENERGY STORAGE PROGRAM
TO A SMALL AMOUNT. AND ALSO THE
OPPORTUNITY TO- UTILIZE SOME OF
THIS FUNDING FOR COST SHARE FOR
FEDERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR
TRACKING AND NUMBER FEDERAL
OPPORTUNITIES THEY'RE COMING ON
WELL THERE. WITH OTHER JUST
RESPONDED TO ARE COMING ONLINE
WHERE ADDITIONAL COST YEARS
REQUIRED IN COULD LIE SOME OF
THIS FUNDING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL
COST SHARE. AND LASTLY EXTREME
SUPPORT EXTREME EVENT SUPPORT-
THE REASON FOR ADDING ADDITIONAL
FUNDING HERE WAS THAT WHEN THE-
DEMANDS HIGH GRADE SUPPORT IN
THE DEEPER PROGRAM WHERE
ESTABLISHED LAST YEAR- THEY
WERE. DIRECTED TOWARDS- THOSE
CUSTOMERS THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED
TO ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE
L. R. P. AND SO THE- I'M SURE
THE CPC'S EMERGENCY LOAD
REDUCTION PROGRAM- AND THEN
EIGHTY TWO OH NINE GIVE US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND INTO-
THOSE TERRITORIES. AND SO THE
ADDITIONAL FUNDING WILL HELP US
IN THAT EXPANSION AND BRING
ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS THAT ARE
NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE
EMERGENCY LOAD REDUCTION PROGRAM
BUT POSSIBLY COULD PARTICIPATE
IN ONE OF THESE TYPES OF
PROGRAMS. BRING THEM ONLINE- AND
PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PROGRAMS
EXPANDING IT SO ADDITIONAL
FUNDING FOR THE EXTREME OF THAT
SUPPORT WOULD HELP IN THAT-
ARENA. AND LASTLY THERE IS THE
ADMIN- ADMINISTRATION OF THE
FUNDING- WHICH IS A HIGHER
AMOUNT IN THE FIRST YEAR
RELATIVELY SPEAKING AGAIN MOST
OF THAT IS TO- FOR CQC IN CC TO
STAND UP AND CONDUCT THE-
STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH THAT IS
NECESSARY TO ESTABLISH AND- LAY
OUT THE STRATEGY FOR THE OF. THE
INVESTMENTS IN YEARS TWO AND
THREE. AND THEN OF FUNDING FOR
ADMINISTRATION- GOES DOWN
PROPORTIONATELY AFTER THAT.
EXCELLENT THANK YOU AND- WE HAVE
THE DETAILED- IN OUR AGENDA THE
DETAILED REVISION PROPOSAL FOR
THE- FOR THE- SYRUP- LET'S HEAR
FROM THE ELIO AND THEN- WE CAN
DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU I'M SARAH
CONNECT WITH THE L. A. U. I SO
WE DO HAVE ON A FEW COMMENTS FOR
YOU ON ON THE ON THE SENATE
PROPOSAL- RELIABILITY CLEARLY
HAS MERIT AND WHEN WE'VE SEEN
OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF. A
COUPLE OF YEARS HOW HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO ENSURE THAT
WE- THAT WE HAVE ENERGY- THE
RELIABILITY. HOWEVER THAT THE
GENERAL FUND CONDITION HAS
CHANGED SINCE SB EIGHT FOUR SIX
WAS PASSED AND- GREATER
REDUCTIONS ARE ARE NEEDED.
RELIABILITY PROGRAMS ALSO
RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT FUNDING
LAST YEAR- ABOUT THREE POINT
FOUR BILLION IN TOTAL AND MUCH
OF THOSE PROGRAMS STILL HAVE
FUNDS REMAINING IN IT IN THE
BALANCE- INCLUDING THAT THE DSG
S. AND THE AND THE DEEPER
PROGRAMS- WE THINK YOU COULD
CONSIDER. DELAYING ACTION ACTION
ON SYRUP- TO PRIORITIZE GENERAL
FUND SAVINGS AND REVISIT
IMPLEMENTATION IN THE FUTURE
YEAR ONCE THESE NEW PROGRAMS ARE
FURTHER UNDER WAY AND THE
GENERAL FUND CONDITION HAS
IMPROVED. I'M SHOULD YOU WANT TO
TAKE ACTION- NOW WE RECOMMEND
THAT YOU THAT YOU ONLY DO SO
WITH THAT ON THAT TWENTY TWENTY.
THREE TWENTY FOUR FUNDS- IT'S
UNCLEAR WHAT THESE WITHOUT YOUR
PROGRAMS LOOK LIKE WE DID JUST
HERE KIND OF A AN OVERVIEW OF
SOME SOME HIGH LEVEL
CONSIDERATIONS FOR THOSE. THOSE
PROGRAMS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE
AGAIN- STARTING IN TWENTY TWENTY
FOUR- HOWEVER WE THINK IT MIGHT
MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO WAIT AND
HOLD OFF ON MAKING THOSE
COMMITMENTS- UNTIL AGAIN WE SEE
MORE ABOUT HOW THESE HAVE
HOBBIES NEWARK NEW OUR PROGRAMS
ARE TAKING SHAPE. SHOULD YOU DO
TO TAKE ACTION ON THE TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR PROPOSALS WE
ALSO RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER
REMOVING THE THIRTY TWO MILLION
FOR D. W. R. TO STAND UP I'M
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT. WE FIND
THIS PROP PREMATURE FOR A FEW
REASONS FIRST THAT THE CENTRAL
PROBE A PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL HAS
HAS NOT YET PASSED. ON SECOND
IT'S UNCLEAR IF D. W. R. WILL BE
SELECTED BY CPUC EVENTUALLY EVEN
IF THE PROPOSAL DOES PASS. AND
THIRD OF THE PROPOSAL FOR THE
THIRTY TWO MILLION AS I. MOSTLY
INTENDED TO SUPPORT A
CONTRACTING STAFF- RATHER THAN
FULL TIME STAFF IN THOSE
TIMELINES ARE ARE ARE GENERALLY
SHORTER THERE THERE ARE OF
COURSE TRADE OFFS. DELAYING ON
PROVIDING THAT FUNDING SHOULD
THAT SHOULD THE PROPOSAL GO
FORWARD COULD RESULT IN SOME
DELAYS BUT ULTIMATELY AND WE
THINK IT IT COULD BE AN AND AN
OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER JUST
TO. AGAIN PRIORITIZE GENERAL
FUND SAVINGS AND I AM SURE THAT.
THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT WOULD BE
RENDERED UNNECESSARY SHOULD SHE
TWO D. W. ARE NOT BE CALLED
UPON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I'M GOOD WITH THAT LET'S
START WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND
THEN. M. MISTER REDUCER DAHLE IF
YOU WANTED TO WORK WALK THROUGH
JUST WITH. HE SAID- ASPECTS OF
THE PROPOSED A PLAN. DIMENSION-
FREE SUPPORT OF SUCH A
PROCUREMENT. OF QUESTION FOR THE
T. W. R. HOWEVER IS WHY. YEAH
I'M- WHAT WE NEED THIRTY TWO
MILLION. TWO THE STAFF THAT I
MENTIONED THAT BE PRETTY- IN THE
TO BE OVERLY SIMPLISTIC BUT
SEEMS REALLY STRICT FOR TO. TO
THE SENATE THAT THAT FUNCTION-
WHAT WHAT WE NEED THAT KIND OF
RESOURCES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
TERRY DELPHIAN HO WITH
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION SO THE THIRTY TWO
MILLION THAT WE'VE BUDGETED OF
WOULD BE TO SUPPORT FOURTEEN
TEMPORARY POSITIONS AS WELL AS
EXTERNAL PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS-
TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS ARE LEGAL
CONSULTANTS THAT WE WOULD NEED
IN ORDER TO STAND UP THE
FUNCTION. THIS FUNCTION
CURRENTLY JUST DOES NOT EXIST
TODAY AT D. W. R. BUT ALSO ON A
MORE PRACTICAL SIDE IN STANDING
UP THIS FUNCTION THAT ACTUALLY
WOULD ENABLE THE CPUC TO POINT
TO THE W. R. AS A VIABLE OPTION.
OF FOR CONSIDERATION AND THEIR
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN
PROCEEDING FOR CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT SO IF FOR EXAMPLE IF
THEY WERE TO POINT IDW ARE TODAY
WE DON'T HAVE THAT FUNCTION WE
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK
AND I THINK THAT WOULD. YOU KNOW
CAUSE SOME CONSTERNATION IN
THEIR PRECEDING TO POINT AT A
STATE ENTITY THAT WOULD YOU KNOW
WOULD BE PREPARED TO DO THAT
WORK. SO THE FUNDING IS TO GO
HAND IN HAND IN ESTABLISHING-
THAT BASIC FOUNDATIONAL. NEED
FOR THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS FOR
THE EXPERTISE BUT ALSO TO ENABLE
THE CPUC TO POINT TO W. R. AS A
POTENTIAL VIABLE OPTION OF
FORWARD THE CENTER PROCUREMENT
WORK IF THEY SHOULD. CHOOSE US.
IN ITS YOUR IS SELECTED TO BIRD
TO PROCURE THIS ME HOW LONG WILL
THIS FUNDING SUPPORT. CANCER
PROCUREMENT FUNCTION THANK YOU
FOR THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS- AND
EXTERNAL STAFFING WE'RE
ESTIMATING THAT TO BE SPREAD
ACROSS. THREE YEARS AND WE THINK
THAT'S A YOU KNOW A FEASIBLE
TIME FRAME. IN ORDER FOR THE PC
TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS
SEASON POTENTIALLY POINT TO D.
W. R. IF THAT SHOULD THAT SHOULD
BE THEIR DETERMINATION SO WE'RE
LOOKING AT A THREE YEAR TIME
SPAN. OKAY THANK YOU WE WILL
LOOK INTO THAT ON BUT APPRECIATE
THAT I'M- FOUR- LET'S SEE IF WE
GO BASS HE AND MS GREEN WOULD-
IN TERMS OF. HOW WITH THE GOBIZ
. PERMISSIVE STINTS OFFICE
UTILIZED- FIFTEEN MILLION OF.
FUNDING WAS TWENTY MILLION OVER
TWO YEARS I'M- EXITOSOS BEST
PRACTICE AND DOCUMENTATION BUT-
COULD YOU READY MORE DETAILS HOW
GO BECAUSE TOMORROW THIS NEW.
PERMANENT EFFORT- SAY AFTER THE
PRIOR IMPLEMENTATIONS OF THE
PLUGIN TV CHARGING STATION
RECOGNITION. ROBIN FROM
PERMITTING PLAYBOOK THE MORE
DETAILS HOW THIS WOULD BE DONE.
SURE THANKS FOR THE QUESTION
LORNE GREENE WENT WITH COPAS.
I'M WITH SARAH FOR PROPOSING TO
DEVELOP THAT PERMITTING PLAYBOOK
FOR ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
NEEDS LOCAL PERMITTING APPROVAL
AND SIMILARLY AND LIKE WE HAVE
DONE WITH THE BROADBAND PLAYBOOK
AND IF YOU CHARGING STATIONS OF
READING THIS GUIDE. WE WOULD
WORK CLOSELY WITH GOVERNMENT
PRIVATE AND COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDERS TO PUBLISH A BEST
PRACTICES MANUAL TO SIMPLIFY
PERMITTING FOR LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. AND UNLIKE AT
THIS YEAR OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING STATIONS WHERE THERE IS
A MANDATE- TO ADOPT AS
PERMITTING STREAM STREAMLINING
AND- BE BELIEVE THAT THE GOBIZ
SERRA FUNDS AND WE CAN AND PUT
THOSE INTO WARDS FOR LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. THAT ADOPT THE
ENERGY PERMITTING PLAYBOOK AND
SAID THIS COULD INCENTIVIZE
THESE JURISDICTIONS TO
ACCELERATE ADOPTION. GIVEN THAT
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DEMANDS
FOR ENERGY ACROSS THE STATE
ESPECIALLY FOR LARGE PROJECTS
THAT ARE NEEDED FOR US TO MEET
OUR CLIMATE OBJECTIVES AS WELL
AS FEDERAL DOLLARS AT STAKE THAT
HAVE STIPULATIONS FOR
STREAMLINED PERMITTING. GOBIZ IS
LOOKING FOR CREATIVE TIMELY
WASTES INDUCE PERMITTING FOR
THESE PROJECTS ASTRAEA BETTER
PERMITTING ENVIRONMENT WE CREATE
IN CALIFORNIA THE BETTER
POSITION CALIFORNIA'S TO COMPETE
FOR THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS TIED
TO CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS SUCH AS BROADBAND.
POWER WATER ETCETERA. WITH THE
YOU'RE A BIG. SEE THE USE OF- OF
BEST PRACTICES AGAINST. THE
PHONE HOW WOULD GO WAS ASSESSED
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF. THEIR
EFFORTS IN WHETHER THIS
DOCUMENTATION BEST PRACTICES ARE
ACTUALLY USED IN. AND SUPPORTING
THE STATE THE- THE GOAL
STREAMLINING ENERGY PROJECTS
SURE SURE I THINK I AM WE WOULD
CA AT ADOPTION AS LONG AS IT'S
AND CREATED WITH THAT. ARCED
STAKEHOLDERS AND THOSE
GOVERNMENT PRIVATE AND COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDERS AND SO BY I'M
WORKING WITH THEM CLOSELY FROM
BEGINNING TO END TO CREATE THIS
PLAYBOOK WE BELIEVE IT'LL BE
USEFUL AND THEN. TRACKING LIES
AND SIMILAR TO IT THAT THEY HAVE
AN EASY CHARGING STATION WE CAN
CREATE A PUBLIC TRACKER AND I
LIKE A MAP IN. A TALLY OF
JURISDICTIONS AND FOR THOSE THAT
CHARGING STATION WE AB PUBLISHED
HOW MANY JURISDICTIONS WEEK THAT
HAVE ADOPTED. THE PERMIT
STREAMLINING HOW MANY ARE IN
PROGRESS AND HOW MANY HAVE NOT
ADOPTED SO AND I THINK WOULD BE
WANTING TO BUILD OUT THAT AND
THAT EVALUATION TOOL. GOOD I
HAVE SEEN THE V. ONE OF THOSE
WHILE BACK AND SHOULD AND SHOULD
THAT READ REVISIT- TO SEE HOW
MANY HAVE A- THAT HAVE ADOPTED.
I'M OKAY I GUESS IT'S ONE OF THE
OTHER OTHER. THE FOLKS DOING
THIS WORKING DOING THIS. YEAR
SHOULD BE WITHIN GO AND- OR THE
OTHER FOLKS YOU COLLABORATE WITH
AND IN TERMS THE STREAMLINING.
AT WE WOULD TO M. DEFINITE
THANKS FOR THE QUESTION WE WOULD
DEFINITELY WORK WITH OUR AGENCY
STAKEHOLDERS AS WE'VE DONE WITH
OUR AND OTHER PLAYBOOKS AS SO.
AT AND GIVEN THE EXPERIENCE
EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH
PERMITTING ASSISTANCE THAT
WITHIN COPAYS THEY THINK WE
WOULD BE WELL POSITIONED TO PUT
THIS TOGETHER. IF I CAN ADD ON
TO THAT SO- GO BUSINESSES ONE OF
THE OF THE LEAD MEMBERS FOR THE
TRACKING ENERGY DEVELOPMENT TASK
FORCE WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE CC
AND CPUC. AS WELL AS KELLY SO-
AND WE CURRENTLY ARE TALKING
DEVELOPERS ALL THE TIME- AND
UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE HAVING
AS WELL AS LOCAL ENTITIES WITH
PERMITTING. AND SO- WE CONTINUE
TO THINK TO UTILIZE THE
OPPORTUNITY OF THE TED TASK
FORCE THE COLLABORATION WE HAVE
THERE. TO BRING IN- PERSPECTIVES
FROM BOTH SIDES BOTH FROM THE
PERMITTING ENTITIES AS WELL AS
THE DEVELOPERS. TO ALIGN AND
DEVELOP THAT- THAT PERMITTING-
ROAD MAP IN A WAY THAT WILL
BRING THE BEST OF BOTH IDEAS
TOGETHER AND TRY TO SPEED UP THE
PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE-
TECHNOLOGIES DEVELOPED
PARTICULARLY. FOR AN ENERGY
STORAGE WHICH WE'RE SEEING THE
MOST CHALLENGE AROUND GETTING
THOSE CODES CHANGED QUITE
RAPIDLY- AND SO JUST THE ABILITY
FOR THE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS
TO KEEP UP WITH CODE CHANGES
AND- THIS KIND OF TOOL HELP IN
THAT PROCESS AND I THINK. AS
SUCH WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER
AND A LOT SAFER TO IMPLEMENT
THOSE- TECHNOLOGIES. THANK YOU
THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT. THAT
TURNING TO THE DEMAND SIDE THAT
CLEAN ENERGY RESOURCES- AS
BRIEFLY STATED DO LIVES VERY
IMPORTANT BUDGET MAKERS FEW.
QUESTIONS MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTAND- SO WHAT ARE SOME
EXAMPLES THAT SEE YOU SEE THIS
YOU SEE WOULD LIKE TO FUND
THROUGH. THIS PROGRAM IS IT.
DIAZ YES DEEPER OTHER PROGRAMS
AS WELL- NO CHAIR- THROUGH THE
DEMAND SIDE SCALE UP IT WOULD IT
BE YOUR RESOURCES BEYOND WHAT
WE'RE FOCUSING ON FROM THE FROM
TECHNICALLY WITHIN THE- JUST THE
STRATEGIC RELIABILITY RESERVE.
SO IN COLLABORATION WITH THE PC
WE'VE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF
OPPORTUNITIES I MENTIONED A FEW
OF THEM EARLIER BUT I'LL GO INTO
A LITTLE MORE DETAIL SO- I THINK
THERE OPPORTUNITY DEFINITELY
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDING
ADDITIONAL CONTROLS- AND I CAN
BE- AT BOTH- RESIDENTIAL OR
COMMERCIAL LEVEL BUT- WE'RE
SEEING A PERM- AT GREAT
OPPORTUNITY I THINK FOR.
ADDITIONAL CONTROLS FOR-
AGRICULTURE AND FOR WATER
WASTEWATER- THE DO A LOT OF
PUMPING THEY HAVE A LOT OF LOW
THEY CAN SHIFT THOSE LOADS. BUT
THEY OFTEN HAVE THE CONTROLS THE
SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL
THE PUMPING AND THE AND THE- AND
IRRIGATION THAT THEY WOULD BE
ABLE TO IF THEY HAVE THOSE
CONTROLS. I THINK ARE BRANCHING
OUT INTO THOSE AREAS AND
PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES IN THOSE
AREAS WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE
FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES-
PARTICULARLY- SMALL FARMERS THAT
WOULDN'T AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE THAT THIS KIND OF CONTROL
TECHNOLOGY AS WELL AS- SOME OF
THE WATER WASTE WATER. IN
ADDITION IN THE WATER WASTEWATER
WORLD THERE'S A LOT OF PUMPING
THAT HAPPENS AND THEIR
EMERGENCIES. THERE ARE OP- THE
USE OF BACKUP GENERATORS TO KEEP
THE PUMPING GOING SOME OF THAT
COULD BE PROVIDED THREE D. BUT
WE CAN LOOK AT WHETHER SOME OF
THE DEMAND SIDE COULD HELP-
REPLACE SOME OF THAT- THE DIESEL
BACK UP WITH CLEAN ENERGY BACK
UP FOR. A KEEPING THAT PUMPING
GOING AS WELL SO THOSE ARE SOME
AREAS ON THE ON THE DEMAND
RESPONSE SIDE. ALL FEEL THAT
THERE OP. TO EXPAND UPON OUR
CLEAN TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS
THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING- ARE
PUTTING OUT- IF YOU CHARGING AND
THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS LIKE-
INCORPORATE ENERGY STORAGE WITH
EVE YOU CHARGING TO HELP- ENABLE
THOSE CHARGERS TO BE PUT IN MORE
PLACES AND HAVE. LESS OF THE
IMPACT ON THE DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM- SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER
OPPORTUNITY. IN WORKING THE CPUC
WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME
OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THEIR
PROGRAMS AT S. CHIP IN AND-
OTHERS. TOO AS I MENTIONED THINK
ABOUT COULD BE INCENTIVIZE-
PANEL UPGRADES THROUGH THOSE
PROGRAMS- PARTICULARLY AND
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES- AND CAN WE
HELP WITH- DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM
UPGRADES IN. THOSE COMMUNITIES
AS WELL WHERE THOSE WERE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM UPGRADES
ARE- MAKING THE COSTS FOR THOSE
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES EVEN MORE
DIFFICULT FOR THAT FOR THOSE
TECHNOLOGY BE PUT IN. AND CAN
SAVE COSTS FOR THOSE REPAIRS AS
WELL- TO THAT PROCESS AND SO WE
WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH
CQC. THROUGHOUT THE FIRST YEAR
THAT TO FRAME OUT THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES. I'M LOOK AT WASTE
WATER FILTERS LOS OPPORTUNITIES
AGRICULTURE AND ENSURE CENTER
DOLLYWOOD AGREE IT I SPOKE TO.
CIRCLES ARE GROUPS RECENTLY AND-
HAVING PROACTIVE DEMANDS FUNDS
WOULD BE WOULD BE GOOD TO THE
THIS IS A CASE WHERE THEY SAID
THAT SIX OR SEVEN BROWN OUTS
AND- WHICH CABIN CORRECTIVE YOU
KNOW AFFECT ON EQUIPMENT AND-
AND- IN A LOT OF CONCERN. THERE
SO OF A PROACTIVE- FOR ACTIVELY
WORKING TOGETHER- THAT- THAT
WOULD WOULD BE VERY. A POWER
WOULD YOU IF YOU HAVE ESTIMATES
IN THOSE TWO AREAS FOR EXAMPLE
OF WHAT THAT. SAVINGS COULD BE
FROM A- PEAK LOAD PERSPECTIVE WE
HAVE WE ARE WE ARE WORKING WITH
THOSE ENTITIES TO TRY TO DEVELOP
AN ESTIMATE OF THAT BUT WE DO
NOT HAVE ONE CURRENTLY. OKAY IN
THE DISTRIBUTION. OF CRAZY
SUGGESTS COMMUNITIES- IMPORT OF
MORE DETAIL ON THAT ISSUE. THE
THING THAT'S- IT SOUNDS LIKE
THAT THE TRADITION THAT MANY
COMMUTER FACING RIGHT WERE YOU
IF YOU'RE THE ONE IF YOU'RE THE
ONE. TO PUT A SOLAR WHO THEN
TRIGGERS. THE AT AND UPGRADE TO
THE SYSTEM AND RIGHT NOW THAT
WHOLE COSTS TO BE. BORNE BY YOU
RIGHT AND- AND I THINK THAT'S
WHAT WE NEED TO. LOOK AT- IF
WE'RE GONNA EXPECT YOU KNOW AND
ASK PEOPLE. WHERE PEOPLE
VOLUNTARILY WANT TO YOU KNOW TO
A GRADES OF THE ERA WHICH IS THE
UPGRADES OF THEIR HOMES WE NEED
TO. TO TACKLE THAT AND THEY'VE
BEEN SOME EFFORTS AROUND THAT
BUT THAT THE KIND OF THING THAT
YOU'RE LOOKING AT MUSIC
DISTRIBUTION OF GRADES IN THESE
COMMUNITIES YES SIR THE THOSE
KINDS OF- OPPORTUNITIES IS BOTH
THE DISTRIBUTION AS WELL AS
PANEL UPGRADES AS NECESSARY- TO
SUPPORT THOSE PROJECTS WHICH MAY
NOT HAPPEN- DO THOSE COSTS BORNE
BY THE- BY THE CUSTOMER- AND
AGAIN JUSTICE COMMUNITIES THAT
CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM. TO
HAVE THAT SO- WE'D WORK WITH CPC
ON THOSE PROGRAMS TO HELP-
IDENTIFY WHERE THE THOSE
INVESTMENTS COULD BE MADE IN THE
BEST- BEST INTERESTS OF THE
REPAIR. GREAT GREAT. BNM IT IS
THIS IS FOR IS THIS JUST YOU
MENTIONED. THOSE EFFORTS TO OPEN
IT UP- BEYOND THE- EMERGENCY
LOAD FIFTY ACRONYMS BUT-
PROGRAM- HOW'S IT GOING AND I'VE
EXPRESSED CONCERNS THE PREVIOUS
HEARING TO MAKE SURE THAT. THAT
WE OPEN THIS UP J. TO THIRD
PARTIES AND NOT JUST. THE FINAL
OF THE MONEY SAY THREE UTILITIES
WHICH- HAVE I THINK BEEN
CHALLENGE AT LEAST IN THE PAST
AND SOME OF THESE CUSTOMER
FACING PROGRAM SO- HOW HOW HOW
WAS THAT- HELLO HOW ARE YOU
FINDING THAT WORK. UP OR FINDING
THAT- FIRST OF ALL THE PROGRAM
IS GROWING SO WE THINK THAT
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
DOUBLE. THE PARTICIPATION FROM
LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR- SO IT'S
VERY POSITIVE INDICATION THAT'S
BEFORE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR
THOSE IN THE IN THE- IN THE CPUC
JURISDICTIONAL TERRITORIES I
THINK THAT'LL BE VALUABLE- AND
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH- UPDATING
GUIDELINES AND WORKING TO
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS ON THAT- WE
HAVE DRAFT UPDATES THE
GUIDELINES OUT NOW AND- AND
WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON
THOSE. AND THOSE TOPICS AS WELL.
ANY WORKING WITH THESE THIRD
PARTIES WHO OF MANY CASES FENCE
AROUND CONTROLS AT NOT ON RIGHT
NOT WITH RATEPAYER DOLLARS- YOU
KNOW MILLIONS OF NEST
THERMOSTATS AND SUCH- ARE YOU
WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE
THEY HAVE THAT. WILL BE
PARTICIPATING IN THESE PROGRAMS
WE ARE LOOKING AT- DEVELOPING
PILOTS THAT WE COULD- EXPLORE
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND IDENTIFY
THE OP THE BENEFITS OF ENGAGING
DIRECTLY WITH THEM. ON THOSE
KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES SO YES
THAT IS THAT IS PLANNED FOR THE-
TWENTY EST YES INDEED A
PROGRAMS. OKAY I THINK IT MAKES
AS A MATTER NO POSITIVE SICKNESS
CERTAIN OF IN THIS IS A PROVEN.
TECHNOLOGY RIGHT THAT'S THAT'S
WORKING IN MANY PARTS OF THE
STATE. TODAY I THINK IT'S JUST
MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT
EXCLUDED FROM. ANY OF THESE
PROGRAMS WE DON'T- A PRIORITIZE-
SAY UTILITY PROGRAMS- THAT ARE
PREPARED BASED. THAT IS TRUE AND
WE IN THOSE CASES THAT WE WOULD
HAVE THE BURDEN OF THE-
EVALUATION OF THOSE PROGRAMS TO
ENSURE THEY'RE PERFORMING
WHEREAS RIGHT NOW- WE GO THROUGH
THE UTILITIES UTILITIES DO THAT
FROM. AREAS THEMSELVES AND SO WE
HAVE TO BE PICKING THAT UP. OKAY
BUT THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT
SOMETHING THAT MIGHT YES. OKAY
I'M- OKAY. MOVING ON TO. THE
SUPPLY SIDE RESOURCES I GUESS
YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE-
SIX OF ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
THERE. I'M. I REQUEST DON'T
THINK WAS AS WHAT ARE SOME OF
THE FEDERAL COST SHARE
OPPORTUNITIES AT THE COST YOUR
INNOVATION GRANTS. AIM TO
POTENTIALLY LEVERAGE ANY
THOUGHTS ON THAT. YES WE HAVE-
ONE OPPORTUNITY WE JUST. SAID A
PROPOSAL FOR TO DO E. WHICH IS
THE GREAT RESILIENCE PROGRAM-
AND THAT DOES REQUIRE CARSHARE
FOR THAT AND SO WE COULD UTILIZE
POSSIBLY SOME THE SURF FUNDING
FOR THAT TO SUPPORT THAT
CARSHARE- AND THERE MORE
OPPORTUNITIES THE DEAL IS
EXPECTED TO COME OUT WITH IN
THE- NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE-
THAT INCLUDE- INDUSTRIAL
DECARBONISATION. STRATEGIES
GREEN HYDROGEN AND- AND THE
THIRD ONE IS- THE MY NOTES-
TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING A
CLEANER TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING
AND SO WE THINK THERE
OPPORTUNITIES AROUND ONLY THE
ONE WE JUST SUBMITTED ANOTHER
FUTURE ONES WE CAN UTILIZE KASHA
FOR. I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER
BECAUSE CHER SO THIS IS. THROUGH
THE FEDERAL THROUGH PROGRAM FACE
SAY HEY YOU HAVE TO HE WILL FOR
THIS MONEY IS ALWAYS THE STATE.
STEPS UP IN RIGHT I DON'T
REMEMBER THE EXACT BREAKDOWN FOR
THE GRID RESILIENCE PROGRAM BUT
I THINK IT WAS. EITHER ONE FOR
ONE LIKE IF THEY PROVIDED- TWO
HUNDRED MILLION WE HAD IT WE HAD
TO PROVIDE TWO HUNDRED MILLION
FOR THE PROGRAM. AND SO IT'S
COMING UP WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL
FUNDS FOR EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT
APPLY OR RELEVANT TO BE ABLE TO
CREATE THAT CRUSHER. MMHM OKAY.
LET'S SEE. HIS VISION CONSIDERED
FUNDING COMMUNITY SCALE. SOLAR
STORAGE PROJECTS AS PART OF
SCALING. SUPPLY SIDE CLEAN
ENERGY RESOURCES WE BELIEVE-
FROM A MEANS OF THIS ERROR WITH
THE CITY OF IT FEDERAL. FUNDING
AVAILABLE AND CAN DIRECTLY
BENEFIT LOW INCOME AND
DISADVANTAGED. COMMUNITIES WHO
HAS ADMINISTRATION LOOKING AT
THAT UP- THANK YOU CHAIR WE ARE
LOOKING AT THAT IN- BOTH CPC'S
PROGRAM WHICH IS SUPPORTING
COMMITTEE SALE SCALE SOLAR AND
STORAGE- BUT IT DOES NOT ALWAYS-
POSSIBLE THERE'S- SOMETIMES WITH
A BIT OF A BUY DOWN TO HELP
SUPPORT THOSE PROGRAMS AND SO WE
COULD UTILIZE HER FUNDING. FOR
SUPPORTING COMMUNITY- SOLAR AND
STORAGE AND WE RECEIVED ACTUALLY
A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK AS
OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT AREA AS
WELL WHICH IS WHICH ONCE AS WE
WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIG INTO THAT
A MORE OPPORTUNE MORE WAYS. IN
THE FIRST YEAR TO HELP STRUCTURE
THAT PROGRAM IN CONJUNCTION WITH
THE CPC MMHM-
OKAY IT'S THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING
TO PRODUCE JUST ONE SIGNATURE
FEDERAL FUNDING FROM THE POLICE
REDUCTION ACT- THAT CAN ENHANCE.
THE DHS ALLOCATION- I DO NOT
BELIEVE SO BUT I WILL CHECK AND
WE'LL GET BACK TO ON THAT OKAY.
GREAT GREAT. THE GIST OF THE
CUNY SCALE SOLAR PIECE OF BILL
THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT- I
CHARGING THE WITHIN THE U. S.
EPA'S. TWENTY SEVEN BILLION
DOLLAR GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
FUND THERE'S A- SEVEN BILLION
DOLLAR SOLAR FOR ALL. HOT
SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED TO.
EXPAND THE ROOT ALONE CAN JUST
FINISH COMMUNITIES THAT. ARE
PRIMED FOR INVESTMENT
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY SOLAR
AND THAT THERE IS INTENT TO
APPLY FOR THIS FUNNY PART IS
OPENING A ONE MONTH APPLICATIONS
ARE DUE THIS SUMMER. IS
MINISTRATION WHERE OF THIS
FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IN THE
URGENT DEADLINES TO APPLY. THAT
IS NOT MY PARTICULAR AREA WITHIN
OUR ORGANIZATION A MEASURE FROM
THE OTHERS ON THE DIESS COULD
YOU HAVE CQC'S WELL AVAILABLE.
NORTH SIDE. SO CHAIR- IN THE NOW
BEEN I'LL FIGURE FIRST QUESTION
ADMINISTRATION IS TRACKING THE
SOUL FOR ALL RELEASED THIS
SUMMER AND IS CLOSELY WORKING
WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF GOBIZ-
FOR THAT FUNDING WE DO HAVE
REPRESENTATIVE FROM CBC HERE
SIMON BAKER FROM THE ENERGY
OKAY. FOR THEM WAS. CHECKING MY
LIST HERE- GIVEN ANY COMMENTS ON
THAT. MISTER BAKER NOT WITH
REGARD TO THAT THAT SELECT FOR
ALL FUNDED THAT YOU MENTIONED
THERE- BUT WE DO HAVE IN A
DOCKET THAT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW
THAT'S THAT'S WORKING ON A
REVIEW. OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY
SOLAR PROGRAMS AND WE'RE ALSO
IMPLEMENTING AB TWENTY THREE
SIXTEEN. WHICH REQUIRED US TO DO
A REVIEW OF OUR COMMUNITY SOLAR
PROGRAMS AND TO- LOOK AT SOME
SOME NEW PROPOSALS FOR ADVANCING
THAT AREA AS WELL AND SO WE'RE
IN THE MIDST OF THAT WE'VE GOT
PROPOSALS THAT ARE BEFORE US
RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE RIDE
DEVELOPING THE RECORD AND ARE
PROCEEDING TO TAKE ANY POTENTIAL
FUTURE ACTION. OKAY WELL
PRESERVE WOULD YOU WOULD LOOK AT
THAT WITH ANY. EQUITY
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVOCATE
TO SEE THAT THAT SEVEN MILLION
DOLLARS OR FOR ALL. POT AS A-
THE EX OPPORTUNITY FOR
CALIFORNIA TO DANCE. EXPAND
AQABA ACCESS TO COMMUNITY SOLAR.
AND STORAGE AND IS THERE A WAY
THAT WOULD BRING SIGNIFICANT
BENEFITS TO THESE COMMUNITIES
SO. APPRECIATE YOU FROM LOOKING
INTO BECAUSE ARSON IS THE
APPLICATION WILL BE TO THE
SUMMER ON THAT ON THAT PIECE.
I'M. THE EPA GUIDANCE FOR THAT
ALSO SAYS APPLICANTS SHOULD
DEMONSTRATE HOW THEY ARE.
LEVERAGING PRIVATE CAPITAL AND
AVAILABLE FEDERAL STATE AND
LOCAL SUBSIDIES. SO SPECIFICALLY
IN AND IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT
HER AS MUCH LET ME KNOW BUT- YOU
KNOW WHAT WILL CALIFORNIA DUE TO
LEVERAGE STATE SUBSIDIES OKAY
THE MOST COMPETITIVE APPLICATION
FOR THESE. PROGRAMS ETHIOCINEMA
THINK RELATES BACK TO PREVIOUS
QUESTIONS THAT SENATOR. LOOKING
TO GET BACK TO US. ONE OF THAT-
YOU KNOW THE KEY QUESTIONS AND
THE PRECEDING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT
NOW IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH-
RATEPAYERS WOULD BE LOOK TO
PROVIDE. SUBSIDIES FOR COMMUNITY
SOLAR THAT. SOME OF THE PRIOR
PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD HAVE A
GREEN TARIFF GREEN- DEREK
SHARED. RENEWABLES PROGRAM DID
HAVE SOME REPAIRING DIFFERENCE
PRINCIPLES IN THERE THAT WERE
REALLY LOOKING OUT FOR-
AFFORDABILITY ISSUES AND COST. A
AND KASHIF CONCERNS- OF SOME OF
OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS THAT- THAT
GREEN TERROR- COMMITTEE SOLAR
PROGRAMS. DO HAVE SOME- SOME
SUBSIDIES IN THERE THEY'RE
PROVIDED THROUGH THE ELECTRIC
CAP AND TRADE FUNDS- AND SO ONE
OF THE ISSUES THAT'S BEING
LOOKED AT IN THE PROCEEDING IS
THE EXTENT TO WHICH- REPAIRS
COULD BE YOU KNOW LOOK TO
PROVIDE SOME SUBSIDIES TO- TO
MAKE THIS MORE AFFORDABLE FOR.
FOR SOME OF THE PARTICIPATING
CUSTOMERS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
ISSUES THAT ARE BOUNCING IN THE
PRECEDING. OKAY I'M- GREAT WHEN
YOU GET BACK TO US ON THE THIS
SORT FOR ALL. HE'S THAT. JUST
OTHER NOTED IT SHOULD THE EPS
GUIDANCE SUGGESTS SHOWING NUMBER
HOUSE WILL SERVE MEGAWATTS OF
SOLAR. FLAVOR TIME STRATEGY FOR
SUBSEA DEVELOPMENT OF CORPORATE
MUTUAL BENEFITS COMMUNICATION
STRATEGY SPORTING COMMITTEE
OWNERSHIP OF WORKFORCE TRAINING
WANT OTHER SAYS A LOT OF. PIECES
THERE I THINK TO PULL TOGETHER
TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE-
COMPETITORS SORT BUT APPRECIATE
REALLY PROMPT RESPONSE FROM. THE
CBC ON THAT. F. WHAT WHAT WE CAN
DO BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE
DEADLINES ARE COMING UP CAN'T
WILL WORK WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION OUR RESPONSE.
OKAY LET'S SEE. I THINK WITH
THAT WE TURN OVER TO YOU MAY
COME BACK A FEW THINGS BUT
WINTER CENTER. DICEY WHAT
QUESTIONS HE HAS ON THE WHOLE
FIRST I WANT TO JUST SINCE THE
CQC'S HERE I'D LIKE TO GO BACK
TO OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION I
ASK ABOUT WHAT THE COST WAS
GOING TO BE FOR- OFFSHORE WIND
TO THE CUSTOMER THAT BUT I'D
LIKE A RESPONSE ON THAT. A. B. I
KNOW YOU WERE HERE. ALL RIGHT
THEY SAID YOU WERE HERE WE
DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER SO- SO I
DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON
THE SET BACK PANEL GREAT. AND SO
WE HAVE A PROCESS IN THE
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN
PROCEEDING WHERE WE THREE
ARTICLE UPDATE THE INPUTS AND
ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THE-
MODELING THAT'S THAT'S DONE IN A
PROCEEDING. AND SO MOST RECENTLY
THAT WAS UPDATED IN SEPTEMBER OF
LAST YEAR- I'M LOOKING AT A
GRAPH HERE- BUT BASICALLY- FROM.
TWENTY TWENTY OUT TO- TO TWENTY
THIRTY FIVE WERE LOOKING AT
COSTS FOR OFFSHORE WIND IN THE
MORRO BAY AREA WHICH WAS THE-
SON OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE USED
HERE AGAIN GOING TO. SOME
SOURCES FROM FROM AND RAIL AND
NATIONALLY NOBLE ENERGY
LABORATORY- THAT ARE KIND OF
STARTING IN THE THREE HUNDRED
DOLLAR. PER KILOWATT YEAR RANGE
AND THEN- OF EXTRUDED TO DROP
OVER TIME TO- TO- CLOSER TO A
LITTLE BIT OVER TWO HUNDRED
DOLLARS. AND TWENTY THIRTY FIVE
FRENCH SO FOR THE PUBLIC THAT
MAY OR MAY NOT BE LISTING THAT'S
THIRTY CENTS A KILOWATT. THAT'S
HOW THEY MEASURED AT THE AT
THEIR METER. RIGHT FOR THREE
HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR EQUATES
DOLLARS PER MEGAWATT EQUIVALENTS
TO THIRTY CENTS A KILOWATT. AND
THEN IT WOULD GO DOWN FROM
THIRTY TO TWENTY IS THE ESTIMATE
FOR OFFSHORE WIND. THANK YOU FOR
SHAPE THAT- ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE
WHICH I WANTED TO I HAD SOME
QUESTIONS FOR- I'M SORRY I
FORGOT YOUR NAME BUT- BUT D. W.
OURSELVES IT PROCUREMENT- SO
WHAT WHY IS D. W. R. WHAT DO YOU
THINK THE D. W. OR THE GOVERNOR
OR WHOEVER THINKS THAT THAT'S
THE- AGENCY WE SHOULD USE
WHAT'S- WHAT'S NOT WORKING- WHY
ARE WE USING JUST WHAT WE
ALREADY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION DELFINO FROM DEPARTMENT
WATER RESOURCES ALREADY NO
PROBLEM HAVE YOU TO SAY IT AS
MANY TIMES AS YOU LIKE. EIGHT I
WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT IT
ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT ISN'T
WORKING BUT I THINK IN MOVING
FORWARD SOME OF THE CHALLENGES
BEFORE US ARE- KIND OF GROWING A
MAGNITUDE SO I THINK THEY'RE
THE- PURSUANT TO THE
CONVERSATION THAT WAS HERE-
RIGHT BEFORE THIS PANEL.
OFFSHORE WIND- THAT IS NEW FOR
EVERYONE IN THE STATE IT'S A
FAIRLY LARGE INVESTMENTS SO
THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
WHETHER OR NOT- EVEN IF THERE'S
INTEREST FROM LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES WILL THERE BE
SUFFICIENT INTEREST IN
PROCUREMENT FOR ANY SINGLE LOAD
SERVING ENTITY OR EVEN A GROUP
OF THOSE SERVING ENTITIES. TO DO
THAT LEVEL OF PROCUREMENT
BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET
SOMETHING LARGE LIKE THAT OFF
THE GROUND. THERE ARE LIKELY A
CONDOM USE A SCALE THERE WERE
DISCUSSIONS HERE IN THE LAST
PANEL ABOUT OTHER OF RESOURCES
THAT NEED TO BE DEVELOPED EVEN
AROUND THE RESEARCH HAS
TRANSPORT INFRASTRUCTURE
TRANSMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE. SO
I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT FOR
SOME RESOURCES IS NOT THAT
SOMETHING ISN'T NECESSARILY
WORKING TODAY BUT THAT THE
CHALLENGES BEFORE US MIGHT NEED
POTENTIALLY A DIFFERENT SOLUTION
AGAIN. WILL DETERMINE THAT. TURN
TO THE PC TO HAVE THEM DETERMINE
THAT THROUGH THEIR PRECEDING- SO
THAT THERE IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
AND TRANSPARENCY WITH THE LOAD
SERVING ENTITIES AS THEY PROVIDE
FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING
IN TERMS OF PROCUREMENT AND
DEVELOPMENT- BUT AGAIN IF THERE
ARE IS IF THERE IS A NEED FOR
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT. THE DEED OF
YOUR STANDS AT THE READY TO
SUPPORT THE STATE IN THAT
EFFORT. SO DELEO OFFICE SUGGEST
THAT WE- TOOK WHAT WILL ME
PRESSES BEFORE IT. LAST YEAR WAS
. PROBABLY LIKE THE PERFECT
STORM AND I THINK THAT WE NEED
TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION
WE HAD. A DROUGHT. AND WE HAD A
WEST WIDE HEAT WAVE THAT
TYPICALLY IS NOT THE NORM. AND
IN IN OUR MANY YEARS OF DOING
THIS WE GOT PRESSURES ON THE
GRID IN PLACES. LIKE NEVADA AND
OREGON AND WASHINGTON WHERE WE
ACTUALLY GET LOAD FROM SO THIS
YEAR WILL BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT
WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER. NOT ONLY
IN CALIFORNIA BUT IN THE WEST
AND MEAN I REPRESENT. SHASTA
WHICH IS COMPLETELY FULL FULL
IT'S AWESOME I'VE NEVER SEEN IT
QUITE THAT FLOODED STAPLE
BECAUSE THE REST OF THE SYSTEM.
IS WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF SNOW
MELT AT THE SAME TIME SO IT'S
NOT LIKE IT'S EVEN DROPPING IT
STAYING FULL AND WE'RE MEETING
OUR- ENVIRONMENTAL AND OUR
AGRICULTURE IN OUR- URBAN. NEEDS
FOR WATER SO. FOR SURE THIS YEAR
WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE
ANY REDUCTION IN HYDRO WHICH IS
A HUGE. POLE PLAYER IN OUR BEING
ABLE TO SHIFT OUR LOADS WE CAN
ACTUALLY RATCHET THOSE DOWN WIND
SOLAR UP. AND WE CAN TURN IT
BACK ON WHEN SOLAR'S DOWN SO.
WHEN I STARTED THAT BUT AS THE
L. A. O. NOTED TO DO THIS IF
THIS PROCUREMENT PROCESS OR
CENTRAL COOPER WAS WHAT WE'RE
REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS. A
LONG TERM. PURCHASER. OF POWER
AND IS THE STATE AGENCY. WHICH
IS SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT
NOW AND I THINK THAT THAT IS
VERY. CONCERNING AND BECAUSE IF
YOU LOOK AT WHAT REALLY IS
HAPPENING HERE IN THE BROAD
PICTURE IS WE'RE GOING TO. BE
ABLE TO HAVE THAT CENTRAL.
PROCUREMENT AGENCY WHETHER C. W.
R. SOMEBODY ELSE. BUYING POWER
FROM THOSE WIND GENERATORS TO
ACTUALLY- ENCOURAGE THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THEM THAT'S
REALLY THE LONG TERM PLAYER
WHICH THE PUBLIC IS NOT AWARE
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IN
DIFFERENT POCKETS AND I THINK
THE PUBLIC IN AND MORE LIKELY
THIS WILL BE COMING THROUGH.
THERE'S NO BILL THAT I'M AWARE
OF THAT. ADDRESSES THIS SO IT'S
GONNA BE A TRAILER BILL WHICH
MEANS THERE'S GOING TO BE. THIS
IS THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE. THE
OPPORTUNITY IS TO TALK ABOUT IT
IS HERE SO I. THAT'S NOT A
QUESTION FEW BUT- WITH THE
URGENCY IS NOT HERE THERE'S NOT
GOING TO BE. A SHORTAGE OF POWER
THIS YEAR WE HAVE A WHOLE
DIFFERENT SCENARIO THAN WE HAD
LAST YEAR IN TIME. AND IT'S THIS
IS ALL. DEDICATING A LOT OF
RESOURCES- THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
QUITE FRANKLY SO. WHAT'S THE
JUSTIFICATION I GUESS AND DOING
IT RIGHT TODAY AND NOT PUTTING
IT OFF UNTIL- WE ACTUALLY GET
MORE INFORMATION WELL AS WE'RE
GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH
OFFSHORE WIND. AND DEMONSTRATING
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE OR
THE BEST. AGENCY TO DO IT I'M
NOT CONVINCED THAT WE DON'T DO A
GOOD JOB ALREADY LAST YEAR WAS.
AGAIN A SPIKE IN IN THE SYSTEM-
YEAH WE GOT THROUGH IT- BUT- I
DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE
THAT. THAT TYPE AGAIN IN THE
NEAR FUTURE. SO WHAT'S THE
URGENCY I GUESS THE QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS ALL
ENTERED IN A IN A COUPLE
DIFFERENT REGARDS- I WON'T I
WON'T DEBATE YOU ON ON. THE THE
CONDITIONS FOR THIS YEAR- THOUGH
I THINK COMING FROM D. W. R.
MAYBE I'LL SPEAK FOR MY
COLLEAGUES A LITTLE BIT ON THE
WATER SIDE WHICH IS. IT WASN'T
TOO LONG AGO THAT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT DROUGHTS AND NOW
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOODS. SO
I THINK. WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
BROUGHT TO US. IS NOT ONLY IN
URGENCY BUT A NEW VOLATILITY AND
A NEW STATE OF PLAY THAT WE ALL
HAVE TO GET USED TO- IN TERMS
OF- THROUGH THE WAY THIS IS
STRUCTURED IS THAT THE
CONVERSATION WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN
AT THE CPUC SO THE AUTHORIZATION
FOR D. W. R. IS SIMPLY SO THAT.
WE CAN BE THAT BACKSTOP OPTION
IF THE CPUC DETERMINED SO. BUT
THAT DOESN'T PRESUPPOSE THAT D.
W. R. WILL BE THE ACTUAL ENTITY.
SO THERE IS AN ENTIRE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT IS
STILL YET TO OCCUR AND THOSE
CONVERSATIONS WITH. THOSE
SERVING ENTITIES WITH DEVELOPERS
WITH ENVIRONMENTAL GREAT "
EVERYONE IN. AS A PARTY TO THE
CPUC PROCEEDING WHICH WILL ALSO
ITSELF TAKES SOME TIME. BUT ALSO
THE **** THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT ARE THOSE THAT ARE- FAIRLY
LARGE INVESTMENT IN SCOPE AND
SCALE. JULIE FAIRLY DIFFICULT TO
EITHER BUILD OR HAVE
TRANSMISSION CONNECTED AT
CETERA. AND AS YOU NOTED SENATOR
THOSE ARE ALL. DIFFICULT
QUESTIONS BUT TAKE- AND AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TIME SO
WHILE THE NEED FOR SUCH A
PROCUREMENT ISN'T TO BUILD AN
ASSET IN THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.
BY THE TIME WE DO NEED THOSE
ASSETS TO HIT OUR PS SCHOOLS OR
EVEN TO REACH TWENTY FORTY FIVE-
FOR SB ONE HUNDRED- WE WOULDN'T
WANT TO FIND OURSELVES IN A
POSITION WHERE WE'RE BEHIND IN
THE PLANNING AND WE'RE BEHIND IN
UNDERSTANDING. WHAT WE NEED TO
GET THERE AND AGAIN THE OFFSHORE
WIND DISCUSSION RIGHT BEFORE
THIS PANEL REALLY SPEAKS TO THE
URGENCY. OF GETTING AT MINIMUM
THE PLANNING TOGETHER TO GETTING
OUR OPTIONS TOGETHER SO THAT WE
CAN MOVE FORWARD WHEN IN THE
TIME SCALE THAT WE NEED TO. SO I
WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE
CENTER PROCUREMENT DISCUSSION IS
NOT TO PROCURE RESOURCES FOR
THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. BUT IN
ORDER TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS-
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
AT LEAST HAVE THE OPTION TO MOVE
FORWARD. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
HERE TO DO TODAY IS FOR W. ARE
TO BE AT MINIMUM PART OF THE
DISCUSSION AS A BACKSTOP. OPTION
FOR THE CPC TO ULTIMATELY
CONSIDER WITH PARTIES AND
STAKEHOLDERS THROUGH THEIR
TRANSPARENT PROCEEDING. THANK
YOU I AND I KNOW YOU I THINK YOU
WERE TO DIE SO BEFORE RIGHT SO I
DON'T WANT TO DEBATE YOU I THINK
YOU'RE PROBABLY A LACK OF A LOT
SMARTER THAN I AM ABOUT HOW THE
SYSTEM WORKS BUT BUT- I DO WANT
TO POINT OUT THAT. TO THIRTY TWO
MILLION DOLLARS. TO GET THE
PROCESS STARTED WILL BRING THE
STAKEHOLDERS IN LATER IS WHAT
I'M HEARING. YOU SAY WHICH I
THINK IS THE WRONG. APPROACH
WEAK AND AGAIN. AS SOMEBODY WHO
. WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MORE
STORAGE PROJECTS WHICH- WE DON'T
EVER GET TO BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A
PRIORITY FOR WHOEVER AROUND HERE
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CONTROL-
WE IT'S A IT'S ALWAYS
STAKEHOLDERS FIRST AND THEN
WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
IN THIS PROCESS WE'RE DOING
WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE
GONNA DO AND THEN WE'LL BRING
YOU IN LATER AND LET YOU KNOW
HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. THAT
IS EXACTLY TOPPING ON OFF SHORE.
AND THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING
WITH. PROCUREMENT BECAUSE THAT'S
WHERE THE- THE GOVERNOR. AND THE
AND THE PARTY IN CONTROL WANTS
TO GO. AND I'M PUSHING BACK ON
THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WRONG.
AND I WON AND THAT THIS IS NOT
DIRECTED AT YOU FOLKS I KNOW
YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB. AND I
APPRECIATE YOU. BUT THE RATE
PAYER. AND THE ENVIRONMENT ARE
GOING TO SUFFER THROUGH THIS
TYPE OF THE PROCESS AND I THINK
IT'S UNFAIR. TO THE PUBLIC. TO
DO THESE TYPES OF. TRAILER
BILLS. WITH THE GOVERNOR DOES
THE MAY REVISION TELL YOU WHERE
HE'S GONNA GO AND ANY. JAMS IT
THROUGH. AND WHO LOSES. THE LADY
THAT CALLS MY OFFICE WHOSE BREAK
BILL KEEPS GOING UP. THIRTY
CENTS A KILOWATT. IS NOT A DEAL.
IS NOT A BARGAIN. FOR OFFSHORE
WIND. AND IT'S GOING TO WORK ITS
WAY DOWN TO TWENTY CENTS. THAT'S
THE ESTIMATE. AND TYPICALLY OUR
ESTIMATES ARE NEVER RIGHT. IT'S
USUALLY A LOT HIGHER THAN THAT.
AND WE HEARD IN THE LAST PANEL.
ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT
WE'RE WITH THE UNKNOWNS WE DON'T
KNOW ABOUT. I MEAN COME ON I
CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE HEARING
THIS. AND I'M GONNA I JUST WANNA
LET YOU THE CHAIRMAN NO I WILL
BE BRINGING THIS STUFF UP ON THE
PHONES TRAILER BILLS COME
THROUGH BECAUSE I THINK IT'S- I
THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE FOR THE
PUBLIC. WHO DOES UNDERSTAND ALL
THIS STUFF. I'VE BEEN HERE TEN
YEARS AND I'M DON'T UNDERSTAND
AT ALL EXACTLY BRANNER STAND L.
POLICY GETS WORKED RUNNERS AND
POLITICS. AND THAT IS EXACTLY
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US WE'RE
GOING TO GET A SENSE OF
PROCUREMENT WHICH IS GOING TO BE
D. W. ARBY'S AS TO GOVERNMENTS.
HE'S GONNA FIND IT WITH THIRTY
TWO MILLION DOLLARS. AND HE'S
GONNA COME BACK LATER AND BRING
THE STAKEHOLDERS AND SAY WHAT
WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS TOO LATE
THAT. THE TRAINS ARE LEFT THE
STATION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
GOING SO. NOT DIRECTED TOWARD
YOU I WANT TO. SHIFT GEARS AND
GO TO. THE AUGMENTATION PART OF
THE OF THE- FOR THE EXTREME
EVENTS. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS-
DGS RECEIVED TWO HUNDRED MILLION
PREVIOUSLY. IN TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FOUR BUDGET PROCESS AN
ADDITIONAL NINETY FIVE MILLION.
IS THAT CORRECT. WHO'S WHO
ANSWERS OF THEM WITH HIS C. C.
OR- EMEZI CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR
QUESTION SORRY. D. G. D. S. G.
S. WHICH STANDS FOR DEMAND SIDE
GRID SUPPORT. THERE SO MANY
DOCUMENTS HERE I CAME. UP
EITHER. RECEIVED TWO HUNDRED
MILLION IN THE TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FOUR BUDGET. A. N. N. AS
IN HIS PROPOSED ADDITIONAL
NINETY FIVE MILLION IS THAT
CORRECT IN THIS BUDGET. DELEO
SAYING YES HELLO I'M OPEN RIGHT.
YES SENATOR THAT YES YES PROGRAM
RECEIVED TWO HUNDRED MILLION IN
THE TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO
BUDGET- AND IS BEING AT. A STEP
WITH ADDITIONAL NINETY FIVE
MILLION. OKAY THEN THE HOUSE
THAT TWO HUNDRED MILLION BEEN
SPENT. THE TERM MILLION HAS NOT
CURRENTLY BEEN SPENT- THE- WE'RE
STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF
THE COSTS FROM LAST SUMMER. TO
IDENTIFY THE FULL EXTENT OF THE
COSTS FROM LAST SUMMER. WHILE
WE'RE EXPANDING THE PROGRAM AND
DOUBLING IT OVER THIS NEXT
SUMMER. SO AND WE'RE GONNA ADD
ANOTHER. NINETY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS TO THAT. OVER THE NEXT
THREE YEARS IS DO YOU DO DO YOU
THINK THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF
FUNDING OR MAYBE SHOULD BE
ASKING THE L. A. O. THE KIND OF
FUNNY WE NEED RIGHT NOW EVEN
THOUGH WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT
GOING TO SEE. WE HAVE A LOT OF
WATER AND SPIKES AND SO WE'RE
ADDING ANOTHER NINETY FIVE
MILLION WE HAVEN'T SPENT. THE
REGIONAL TWO HUNDRED MILLION SO
MAYBE THE L. A. O.'S OFFICE
COULD. ANSWER THAT- YES I THINK
YEAH WITH THOSE- THOSE THOSE
NUMBERS ARE ARE ARE CORRECT FROM
OUR UNDERSTANDING AND I THINK
THAT'S THAT'S- THAT'S PART OF
PART OF WHAT'S- KIND OF
UNDERLYING OUR COMMENTS ABOUT-
YOU KNOW. RECOMMENDING THAT THAT
YOU CONSIDER REVISITING SOME OF
THESE PROPOSALS AND A FUTURE
YEAR- ESPECIALLY GIVEN GIVEN HOW
MUCH IS IT STILL REMAINING IN
THE BALANCE. RECOGNIZING THAT
THERE ARE STILL SOME UP- SOME
OUTSTANDING EXPENSES FOR DSDS
LAST LAST SUMMER BUT- FROM OUR
UNDERSTANDING ONLY FOURTEEN
MILLION HAS GONE OUT THE DOOR
FOR DSG SO FAR. IF I MAY ADD- SO
I WE DID AN ANALYSIS FOR THE
SUMMER SERVICES FOR TALKING
ABOUT SOME RELIABILITY. AND YOU
CORRECT IF WE HAVE AN AVERAGE
SUMMER WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES
TO GET THROUGH THE SUMMER
WITHOUT ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO
THE GRID. IF WE HAVE A CONDITION
LIKE WE HAD- IN TWENTY TWENTY-
HE DIDN'T LIKE IN TWENTY TWENTY
IN SEPTEMBER SAY- OR ONE LIKE WE
HAD IN LAST YEAR. THEN WE- ARE
THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE MAY
NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES. TO BE
ABLE TO RIDE THROUGH THOSE-
EVENTS. WITHOUT HAVING THE
STRATEGIC RESERVE AVAILABLE TO
SUPPORT US DURING THOSE EVENTS
AND SO WE DO FEEL THAT. EVEN
THOUGH YES WE HAVE MORE HYDRO
AND- AS- DIRECTOR WHO MENTIONED-
THERE IS A LOT MORE- WILL- HYDRO
TO BE PROVIDED THIS SUMMER THEY
ALSO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT
OF WATER TO MOVE. AND SO THEY'RE
PUMPING LOAD IS MUCH LARGER AND
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON
OF. OF HYDRA VEIL BILITY VERSES
PUMPING LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS
YEAR PROPORTIONALLY AS I
UNDERSTAND IT'S ABOUT THE SAME-
JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
WATER TO MOVE- AND THAT AND I
BELIEVE. THAT T. W. R. IS THE
LARGEST LOAD IN CALIFORNIA IF I
RECALL CORRECTLY SO- SO I DO
WANT TO COST AND I THINK THAT
THAT WE DO NEED TO BE PREPARED
FOR THESE EMERGENCY EVENTS OF
THESE EXTREME EVENTS. AND WHILE
THE SUMMER IS CURRENTLY LOOKING
GOOD AT LEAST PREDICTIONS FROM
NOW AND OTHERS THROUGH- AUGUST
ARE LOOKING POSITIVE- IS STILL
UNCLEAR WHAT SEPTEMBER WILL LOOK
LIKE EL NINO COMES IN AND
AFFECTS US. IN SO WE FEEL THAT
HAVING THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE
IN THE EVENT OF THOSE.
SITUATIONS IS VALUABLE- AND
AGAIN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL
HAPPEN NEXT YEAR AND SO- DON'T
ONE MAKER INVESTMENTS THIS YEAR
PREDICATED ON JUST THE
CONDITIONS THIS YEAR- UNDER THE-
BELIEF THAT NEXT YEAR COULD BE
VERY DIFFERENT. THANK YOU I
APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M GLAD
WE'RE MOVING WATER AROUND IT'S
AWESOME TO HAVE. I WANTED JUST
TO TOUCH ALSO ON THE- D. D. E.
B. A. WHICH STANDS FOR THE
DISTRIBUTED ELECTRICITY BACK UP
ASSETS. PROGRAM WHICH RECEIVED
FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION-
INSULATED TO GET IT AND IT'S
SLATED TO GET ANOTHER HUNDRED
MILLION TWENTY TWENTY. TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR. HOW MUCH OUT
OF FUNDING'S BEEN SPENT IN THE
L. A. O. OR C. WHOEVER CAN
ANSWER THAT PLEASE. SO THE WE
ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS AFTER
RECEIVING THAT FUNDING LAST YEAR
OF WORKING THROUGH GUIDELINES WE
GONE THROUGH EXTENSIVE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. TO RECEIVE
FEEDBACK ON THE BEST WAY TO OUR
OPTIONS FOR- SUPPORTING AND
UTILIZING THAT FUNDING-
GUIDELINES WILL BE- FINALIZED
SHORTLY AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING
GREAT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES
GOING OUT FOR THE SUMMER. HOW
MUCH OF IT'S BEEN SPENT- I DON'T
KNOW THE SPECIFIC NUMBER IT'S
BEEN IN ADMINISTRATION THIS
POINT SO FAR. WE GET BACK TO YOU
ON THAT K. I THINK AMONG THE. I
THINK THE SENATOR PACKER
ACTUALLY ASKED IF YOU THE COST
SHARING THINGS THAT I HAD ON MY
LIST AND- I THINK THAT WRAPPED
UP I REALLY APPRECIATE- OR YOUR
EXPERTISE AND- AND NOT PATIENCE
. ME APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU.
WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY HERE TODAY. AND I'M
VERY GRATEFUL FOR. AS AS REVENUE
SKETCHES LIKE HE IS YOU GET A
LITTLE BIT LIKE YOU KNOW PTSD
FROM. LAST SUMMER- AND- AND IT'S
A- THANKS TO. THE WORK OF- IF
WHEN HERE AND- THE WORK WAS DONE
WITH WITH THREE RESPONSE BUT- IN
IN ALL AREAS THAT WE WERE ABLE
TO SURVIVE LAST SUMMER SO. HOPE
KNOCK ON WOOD IT'S A- BETTER
THIS SUMMER BUT- I KNOW WE NEXT
TWO THREE YEARS ARE. ESPECIALLY
ARE ARE CRITICAL AND- WE KNOW
THE FUTURE PRESERVES IS GOING TO
HELP US GET THERE SO THANKS TO
ALL OF YOU. OUT WITH THAT WILL
MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND- A
MAKE A NOTE HERE AGAIN THAT- THE
NUMBERS 877-226-8163 ACCESS CODE
SIX NINE. FOUR EIGHT NINE THREE
ZERO WE WILL START. WITH THE
ROOM YEAH GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS- DAN TROM
AFTER THE PORT OF LONG BEACH.
WHAT STRONGLY SUPPORTS GIVING
ALL RELEVANT STATE AGENCIES
ESPECIALLY THE COASTAL
COMMISSION ADEQUATE RESOURCES
COMMENSURATE WITH RELIABLE THE
MEETING. THE OFFER- WIND
DEVELOPMENT GOALS SET FORTH BY
THE GOVERNOR AND THE CDC.
EXPECTS SIGNIFICANT INTER AGENCY
COORDINATION REVIEWED APPROVALS
BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION AMONG
OTHER AGENCIES ARE RELEVANT TO A
FOR WHEN DEVELOPMENT. IF THEY
DON'T STAFF SUFFICIENTLY
PARTICULARLY AT THE BEGINNING
WHEN WE ARE ALL STILL TRYING TO
DETERMINE POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND
MITIGATION. THAT WE FOR THE
TIMELINE FOR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE
DELAYED IN THE AND THE GOALS-
WILL NEXT. AS A SIDE NOTE. WE
ENCOURAGES COMMITTEE AND THE
LEGISLATURE TO RECOGNIZE THE
PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT ROLE
THAT PORTS WILL PLAY IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE.
ALMOST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE
BEEN AT THE TABLE- TODAY FOR
EXAMPLE THE POOR LONG BEACH
STRONGLY PREFERS TO RETAIN ITS
SEQUEL LEAD AGENCY AUTHORITY
OVER ANY OFFSHORE WIND. RELATED
PORT DEVELOPMENT. AND WORKING ON
WITH CENTER MCGUIRE ON THIS IN
HIS RELEVANT BILL. THIS WE THINK
WILL ALLEVIATE STATE AGENCY
STAFFING NEEDS AND COSTS. I ALSO
WANT TO CONVEY THE URGENCY FOR
ALL REGULATORY ENTITIES TO
EXPEDITE. THE PLANNING IN THE
REVIEW PROCESS SEES A SPECIALLY-
SUPPORTING MORE FLEXIBILITY AND
THIS GOES TO THE APA EXEMPTION
ISSUE FOR THE FORTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS AT. THAT MISTER CHAIR
YOU USCC ABOUT WITH STRONG
SUPPORT THAT ADDED FLEXIBILITY-
AT THE RISK OF STATING THE
OBVIOUS. WITHOUT PORT
INFRASTRUCTURES PORT
INFRASTRUCTURE THERE'S NO OFFER
WENT. RIGHT WE NEED THE
INSTRUCTOR FIRST. AND THEN THE
WIND DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWS- THE
PORT RECENTLY RELEASED A
CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND COST STUDY
A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR THE-
ULTIMATELY A FOUR HUNDRED ACRE
OFFSHORE WIND TERMINAL. WE W.
PEER WIND- DEVELOPED IN TWO
PHASES OF WHICH WILL HAVE THE
FLEXIBILITY TO SERVE ANY OF THE
OFFSHORE WIND INDUSTRY NEEDS
STAGING INTEGRATION. FOUNDATION
FABRICATION COMPONENT
MANUFACTURING MAINTENANCE X.
CETERA WE BELIEVE THAT NO OTHER
PORTENT CALIFORNIA HAS THE
PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES THE DEEP
WATER THE- LIMITATION REPORT
LACK OF HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. TO
PROVIDE THE SUPPORT. THE TO HELP
ME TWENTY FIVE TWENTY FORTY FIVE
DEPLOYMENT TARGETS THE SCHEDULE
FOR THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL AND
MUST BE DELIVERED ON AN
AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE TO BE READY
FOR THE INDUSTRY- THE STUDY-
CONSIDERED A QUOTE AGGRESSIVE
SCHEDULE SCENARIO. ASSUMING OF
THE CONTRACTOR RECEIVED NOTICE
TO PROCEED ON JANUARY ONE TWENTY
TWENTY SEVEN. PHASE ONE WOULD BE
COMPLETE BY. Q. THREE OF TWENTY
THIRTY ONE FACE TO COMPLETE BY
TWENTY THIRTY FIVE. SO JUST JUST
EMPHASIZE- VERY VERY AGGRESSIVE
TIMELINES NEEDED TO MEET TWENTY
FIVE FORTY TWENTY FORTY FIVE
GOALS SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SORT
WORK BACKWARDS. AND THINK ABOUT
EVERYTHING THAT'S NECESSARY.
OBVIOUSLY THE PORTS CAN'T DO
THIS ALONE THIS IS A WHOLE OF
GOVERNMENT APPROACH THE COST OF
THE ESTIMATED ALMOST FIVE
BILLION DOLLARS- SEVEN
DISCUSSION REGARDING BONDS BUT-
JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE NEED
FOR URGENCY IN EVERYTHING WE DO.
REGARDING OFFER THE PHONE. THANK
YOU WAS ON THE PORCH OF
IMPORTANT ROLE PLAY IN- BUT YOU
FINISH YOUR COMMENT THERE
BECAUSE YOU WAITED THROUGH THE
HEARING TO TESTIFY SO WE
APPRECIATE THAT- NEXT UP. GOOD
MORNING TERRY BAKER BUDGET
COMMITTEE AT MEMBERS MY NAME IS
ALLISON HILLIARD ON BEHALF OF
REIMAGINE POWER AND THE MAKER
GREAT RESOURCES COALITION. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS- TO
MAINTAIN STRONG INVESTMENTS IN
CLEAN ENERGY RESOURCES FOR
RELIABILITY DESPITE THE CAUGHT
IN THE CURRENT BUDGET COMMITTEE-
ENVIRONMENT. WELL THE EMBASSY IS
VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE STATE IS
PROPOSING FUTURE INVESTMENTS IN
DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES
THROUGH THE STARTUP PROGRAM. WE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THE ADMINS
BUDGET PROPOSAL TO CLAW BACK A
HUNDRED MILLION AND DEVELOP
FUNDING. AS OUTLINED IN MAY
TWELFTH FINANCE LETTER. DIVAS
FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED LAST YEAR
IN AB TWO OH FIVE FOR NEW CLEAN
ENERGY IT RESOURCES. THAT CAN
MEET GREAT RELIABILITY NEEDS.
DEEPER ALREADY REPRESENTS- A
SMALL FRACTION OF THE STRATEGIC
RELIABILITY RESERVE AND IS MEANT
TO INCENTIVIZE CLEAN TWO E.
OURS. THAT CAN PERFORM IMPORTANT
RELIABILITY SERVICES DURING
EMERGENCIES. THE STATE SHOULD
NOT BE TAKING ANY FUNDS FROM
DIVA TO REIMBURSE YOU TELL IT IS
FOR UNSPECIFIED CAPACITY IMPORTS
. FOR THE DAY I'M SORRY WE
REQUEST THAT THE DEEPER PROGRAM
REMAIN FULLY FUNDED SO THAT NEW
CLEAN RESOURCES LIKE MICRO GRIDS
CAN BE DEPLOYED WIDELY ACROSS
THE STATE TO MEET SYSTEM
RELIABILITY NEEDS AND
DEMONSTRATE THEIR VALUE TO THE
GRANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE APPRECIATE THAT WILL
MOVE NOW TO THE PUBLIC COMING TO
THE TELECOMMUNICATION LINE
MODERATE PLEASED TO HAVE. ANYONE
AWAITING TO TESTIFY. THANK YOU
FOR THOSE ON THE PHONE LINES TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME.
ABOUT A LINE OF TWENTY SEVEN
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING
KAREN MEMBERS FUND RIGHT FROM
TRACKING PRICE CONSULTING ON
BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN CLEAN
POWER. REMEMBER IN ADDITION OF
CLEAN ENERGY DEVELOPERS ACROSS
THE WEST INDIES COLONIES IN
SUPPORT OF FEDERAL PROCUREMENT
IN THE STATE OF BIRTH THE
FACILITY IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF
OFFSHORE WIND. THE IS A GREAT
WHILE EIGHTY A PRE THE PROPOSAL
INCREASE STAFFING AGENTS TO
PREPARE FOR WITH HER THERE ARE
MANY OUTSTANDING. ABOUT HOW THE
OFFSHORE WIND PERMITTING PROCESS
FULTON WORK. THE NUMBER OF
PERMITTING AGENCIES. AND
ENTITIES INVOLVED IF YOU COULD
URGING WITH. I JUST THE GUY. TO
SIGN LEAD COORDINATOR FOR OPTION
WIND COME. WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO MANAGE TIMELINES AND
SEQUENCING. ENSURE ALL COMMITTEE
AGENCIES MEET THEIR MILESTONES
AND COORDINATE REQUESTS AND
ANALYSES. IT'S CRUCIAL THAT
HASN'T HAPPENED YET AND WITHOUT
IT THE PROCESS WILL BE EXPENSIVE
AND INEFFICIENT PUTTING AT RISK
THE ABILITY FOR OFFSHORE WIND TO
COME ONLINE IN EARLY TWENTY
THIRTY. NOT ONLY COURTNEY AND A
CO A BILL TO FARTHER WITH AND
CORD KERR A PER. IT MAY BE. TO
ASSIGN SPECIFIC FACULTY CHASES
AGENCY. TWENTY M. FROM EIGHTY P.
SUPPORT RUNNING CREATE FOR THE
BUDGET FOR EACH AGENCY TO
PREPARE FOR OFFSHORE WIND
COMMITTEE PARTICULARLY THE
COASTAL COMMISSION- BUT BUDGET
IN AN ASSIGNMENT OF STOP SHOULD
CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THE
COMPLETE PERMITTING STRATEGY FOR
ACTUAL. WITH DOT IN RESOURCE
NEEDS WILL MUCH DEPEND ON WHO'S
THIS CORD AND HOW TO COME OF THE
- OR DIVERSITY CUENTA. IN THE
OVERALL APPROACH TAKEN FOR
PROGRAMMATIC REPEAL JOINT
PROPERTY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
. THERE IF YOU SUPPORT CAN
FUNDING DATE IT BUT OF COURSE
THE ONE. IN AGES TO DEVELOP. AND
DETAILED. PROP SURELY. THAT WILL
I EFFICIENT AND ENSURE EFFECTIVE
AND COORDINATED PROJECT MOVING
FORWARD THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT CALLER. THANK
YOU THAT WILL COME FROM THE LAW
OF FERRET AT NINE THIRTY YEAR
LINE OPEN. MORNING COMMITTEE BE
OF THE CALIFORNIA THE STATION
THE INTIMATE MANAGEMENT COUNCIL
REGARDING ISSUE ONE- WE
APPRECIATE INCLUSION OF FUNDING
FOR THE DEMAND VERY QUICK THE
COURT AND TO GIVE YOU ENERGY
BACK UP AFTER THE PROGRAMMING
CARE ACT. THE REFRIGERANT YEAH
YES YOU BELIEVE THAT- BUT LIKE
IF CALL BLUE ONE TO RAISE
CONCERN. RELATED TO ANOTHER
ADVENTURE BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE
HUNDRED DOLLAR AWAY FROM THE
DIED ARE SHIPPED OUT TO DO THAT
R. WE ARE. ABOUT. YEAH BUT THE
WAY THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE RESORT
IS BUT HE CAN TO BREAK HERE
DIFFICULT AND GOT WITH COMMITTEE
AND IN THE- YOU. THANK YOU
NEXTCODE. LOOK UP THE LINE AFTER
. LINE THIRTEEN YOUR LINE OPEN.
HI NAME'S SUSAN HARD ON THE CALL
CHAIR OF THE LUCIA TRAP OF THE
CLUB UP. THE SIERRA CLUB NUMBER
AND SAM'S OBISPO COUNTY WHICH
ADDS THE COAST COUNTY. OF WE
STRONG SUPPORT THE- OF CENTER
MCGUIRE OTHERS WHO SPOKE.
REGARDING SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR
THE COME TO DO THE JOB YOU'RE IT
TO DO. THE STATE A BARKING ON
THE. HOLD THE TRUMP. EFFORT TO
BRING WIND ENERGY- THE
CALIFORNIA AND UNITED STATES
AND- TO TRY TO DO THAT WITHOUT
SUFFICIENT RESOURCES FOR THE
AGENCIES IS FOLLY WITH MY END UP
WITH- ATTENTIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL
NOW IF IT'S GOING TO COST EVEN
MORE TO FIX FILLED- PLEASE DO
NOT CUT FUNDING FOR THE- BECAUSE
THE COMMISSION AND BE. SURE THAT
THERE'S SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR
THEM TO DO THE JOB THAT YOU'RE
ASKING THEM TO DO NOT ONLY ARE
YOU PILING ON MORE WORK WITH
THIS. THEY STILL HAVE THE
REGULAR WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO
DO. CALIFORNIA WOULD LOOK VERY
DIFFERENT TODAY IF NOT FOR THE
COASTAL COMMISSION PLEASE GIVE
FULL FUNDING. THEY NEED TO DO
THEIR JOB THIS IS. COMPLETELY
THE COASTAL COMMISSION IS ONE OF
THE CONTACT POINTS BETWEEN. AN
IMPORTANT CONTACT POINT BETWEEN
THE PUBLIC AND SACRAMENTO. AND
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT
THEY'RE IN A POSITION TO UPHOLD
THE COLD BLACK. AND CONTINUE TO
DO THE MARVELOUS WORK THAT THEY
DO OF PROTECTING THE COAST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT I NEXT
CAR. WELCOME TO THE LINE OF
TWENTY SIX LINE TWENTY SIX ALIGN
THOSE OPEN. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
DO PALES REPRESENTED THE
ALLIANCE FOR RETAIL ENERGY
MARKETS. OUR MEMBER ENERGY
SERVICE PROVIDERS PROVIDE ABOUT
FIFTEEN PERCENT. OF THE STATE
CPUC JURISDICTIONAL LOW SO OUR
MEMBERS ARE OUT THERE BUYING
ELECTRICITY EVERY DAY. MMHM
ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY FOR
COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL LOAD. UP
RELATIVE TO THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT AND IT THE PROPOSAL
BY THE ADMINISTRATION WE DO
BELIEVE THAT A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY COULD WORK
AND COULD BE NECESSARY
PARTICULARLY FOR OFFSHORE WIND.
AND GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES BUT THE
PROBLEM FOR YOU IS BROAD AND
WIDE OPEN TO REALLY ANY TYPE OF
RESOURCES WE BELIEVE THAT GUARD
RAILS AND RESTRICTIONS NEED TO
BE PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. WE
SUPPORT WITH THE ASSEMBLY DATE
ON THIS BUDGET ITEM- WHEN THEY
TOOK THIS ITEM AND PUT INTO A
SEPARATE BILL AB THIRTEEN
SEVENTY THREE THAT GOT OFF OF
ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS WITH
THIS TYPE OF LIMITING LANGUAGE
THAT PUT REAL GARGRAVE RAILS. ON
THE PROGRAM AND THEN PROVIDED A
SUNSET BY TWENTY THIRTY AND
REVIEW AND SO THAT'S OUR
POSITION ON TRINITY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW CALL.
THANK WILL GO TO THE LINE OF TWO
LINE TWO YEAR LINE IS OPEN.
SORRY DID YOU SAY THIRTY TWO.
YES YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GREAT
THANK YOU SO MUCH SORRY ABOUT
THAT HIGH- THANKS SO MUCH FOR
YOUR TIME- MY NAME IS ALEXIS THE
NINE I RECOGNIZE THE COMMAND I'M
HERE TO SPEAK ON ASKING THE
STATE TO INVEST AT LEAST FOUR
HUNDRED MILLION IN EQUITY
EQUITABLE COMMUNITY FULLER IN
COURT ACCESS DEFINITELY A
REALLY. RELEVANT AND PRIME SPOT
FOR THAT- DIRECT POT OF FUNDING
AND CALIFORNIA'S REALLY FAR
BEHIND OTHER SPEEDS IN INSURING
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO COMMUNITY
SOLAR AND STORAGE WHEN WE REALLY
SHOULD BE LEADING ON THAT AND-
WE'VE YET TO SET UP A VIABLE
PROGRAM OR DEDICATE SUFFICIENT
RESOURCES THAT TO HAVE TO BE
COMPETITIVE FOR FEDERAL FUNDING.
I'M THE GREAT HEARING THAT THERE
IS SOME THINKING GOING ON AND
THERE'S AN OPEN PROCEEDING WITH-
A LOT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ADVOCATE ARE DEEPLY
ENGAGED ON BUT DEFINITELY WANT
TO BE MORE ACTION TOWARD FROM
THE STATE TO REALLY PRIORITIZE
THIS INVESTMENT KNOWING THAT.
OUR COMMUNITY FOR IN STORAGE IS
A REALLY KEY OPPORTUNITY TO
RETIRE POLLUTING GAS PLANTS WHO
HAD- IN IN LOW INCOME AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. IF WE
CAN STRATEGICALLY FIGHT THEN AND
LOCAL RELIABILITY AREAS AND ALSO
KNOWING THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE-
ONLY OPPORTUNITIES ACTUALLY
PALER BUILD THE BEING I REALLY
AT. A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME FOR
SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS- GIVEN THEN THAT THE
ACCEPTABILITY OF COMMUNITY SOLAR
AND STORAGE. ARE YOU KNOW LOW
INCOME ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES HELP LONG BEACH
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT OF AIR
POLLUTION WILDFIRES POWER
OUTAGES. AND ECONOMIC INSECURITY
WHILE BEING LOCKED OUT OF THE
FOLDER FEEDING THAT THEY CAN GET
FROM DISTRIBUTED CLEAN ENERGY SO
FOR THESE REASONS. JUST REALLY
HOPING- AND URGING THE SPEAKER
PRIORITIZE INVESTMENT IN
COMMUNITY SOLAR AND STORAGE
THANKS. SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. NEXTCODE LOCAL THE LINE OF
FIVE MY THIRTY THREE LINE IS
OPEN. I THANK YOU SO MUCH
READING OF NOW. RECUR IT LIVE IN
OR CAL- CAL. AND I ALL SET WITH
CLIMATE ACTION CAL. AND I ALPHA
TO INVESTED FOR MILLION IN
EQUITY COMMUNITY SOLAR AND
STORAGE ACCESS. I I'M PROUD.
OPPORTUNITIES CAL JOBS LIFE FOR
INSECURE FONG FUN FROM THE US.
REDUCTION THAT WOULD HELP SCALE
. WHAT YOU SOLAR AND STORE.
FACTOR SEVEN BILLION AND IS
EARMARKED FOR GETTING THE NUMBER
OF LOW INCOME AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES ARE PRIMED FOR
INVESTMENT IN RESIDENTIAL AND
COMMUNITY SOLAR WITHOUT A CLEAR
IN BOSTON HARBOR CALIFORNIA IS
AT RISK OF NOT BEING
COMPETITIVE. AND SECURE IN ANY
FUND THAT CAN HELP YOU KNOW
LATER IN THE STATE OF THE
PREVIOUS. HOUR MENTION WE'RE WAY
BEHIND OTHER STATES IN
INSTITUTING A WIDESPREAD SOLAR
USAGE WE NEED TO CATCH UP
INCREASING NUMBERS LOW INCOME
AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES ARE EXPERIENCING
RISING ENERGY GOT AN ENERGY
BURDEN. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT PROBLEM ALSO EVERYONE
CAN AFFORD ROOFTOP SOLAR. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
CALLER. A GOOD OF A LINE OF
THIRTY FOUR NINE THIRTY FOUR
YEAR LINE OPEN. ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS- MY NAME IS STEPHANIE
DOYLE AND I'M THE REGULATORY
DIRECTOR FOR CALIFORNIA BOTH
FULLER AND I'M CALLING TODAY AT
ALSO OUT FOR THE DAY TO INVEST
AT LEAST FORTY MILLION. THE
COMMUNITY FILLING STORAGE FROM
EUROPE. I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE
CALIFORNIA LAGGED BEHIND MORE
THAN TWENTY STATES CURRENTLY ON
COMMUNITY SOLAR AND STORAGE AND
WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE
OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW- THANKS AB
TWENTY THREE SIXTEEN TO LEAD ON
THAT WITH PROVIDED THAT THE
RIGHT RESOURCES ARE MADE
AVAILABLE. AT COMMUNITY FULLER
DORIS IS NEEDED PART OF OUR
CLEAN ENERGY TRANSITION
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT CAN
BRING MUCH NEEDED BILL SAVINGS
TO OUR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES
AND RENTERS. WHO HAVE BEEN LEFT
OUT WHEN IT. COMES TO DOLLARS
SAVING. UNICORN CAN ALL PROVIDE
YOU LOCAL BILL OF THE A LOT
ABOUT TODAY. YOU'RE NOT BETWEEN
THE TWO FONG FROM OUR- FOR
COMMUNITIES LEARN. A CALIFORNIA
REALLY NEEDS TO SHOW THAT IN OUR
TO BECOME FOR THIS REASON I ARE
YOU A BEST HUNDRED NO FOR. SOLAR
AND BE YOUR TIME J. THANK. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. MOTOR OTHER ANY
FURTHER KERR. YES OVER TO THE
LINE UP FOR FIVE LINE THIRTY
FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI MY
NAME OF OUR LAWS CALLING IN ON
BEHALF OF THE SURFRIDER
FOUNDATION ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE
CENTER IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THE
PROTECTION THAT WHERE. ARE WE
WANT TO SUPPORT STAFFING FOR THE
NATURAL RESOURCES AGENCY HAVE
YOU HEARD FROM CAÑADA. DO THEIR
JOB THE RESPONSIBLE IMPLICITLY
PREPARE FOR OFFSHORE WIND IN
CALIFORNIA I JUST WANT TO THANK
SENATOR MCGUIRE YOUR COMMENTS
THIS MORNING UNDERSTANDING THE
URGENCY FOR THE UP FRONT WORK
HERE. AND AQUELLOS SENATOR DOLLY
WITH THE FACT YOU'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE TRAILER BILL PASSED BY
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT CAR. WHAT A LINE UP THIRTY
SEVEN LINE THIRTY SEVEN YOUR
LINE. IS OPEN. THANK YOU AND
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS EXACTLY
YOU I'M THE COALITION MANAGER
FOR THE CALIFORNIA GREEN NEW
DEAL COALITION. I'M CALLING THEM
IN SUPPORT OF THEIR QUEST FOR
FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN
FUNDING TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY AND
SOLAR AND STORAGE PROGRAM. THE
FUNDING COULD GO TO ADVANCE THE
NUMBER OF CRUCIAL POTENTIAL
EQUITY BENEFITS FROM THE
PROJECT. I THINK THAT OTHER
FOLKS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED
INCLUDING ENHANCED BILL SAVINGS.
TARGET LOCATION AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP. AND AS
OTHERS HAVE NOTED THIS IS AN
ESPECIALLY URGENT AND PRESSING
PRESSING ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITH
THE OPPORTUNITY. S. ROUNDING THE
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT
INCLUDING OVER SEVEN BILLION
DOLLARS THAT HAD BEEN EARMARKED
. FOR EXPANDING AN- YOU PROGRAM
AND RESIDENTS FULLER PROGRAM. AT
WITHOUT CLEAR INVESTMENT. HE
MADE CLEAR FROM THE FEDERAL
GUIDELINES THAT THE STATE ARE-
GOING TO BE LESS COMPETITIVE
PERSON CARRYING ANY OF THAT
FIND. WHICH WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
HAMPER THE STATE'S ABILITY TO
RAPIDLY DEPLOY COMMUNITY SOLAR
AND STORAGE PROJECTS. OUT THERE
DID THAT. ESPECIALLY TIMELY
ISSUE AND WE ASK FOR THE STATE
TO CONSIDER USING ALREADY CURED
FIND THREE THERAPY. YOU ADVANCE
. JACK THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT CAR. ORDER OF A LINE
OF THIRTY SIX NINE THIRTY SIXTY
LINE IS OPEN. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF VICTORIA
ROME WITH NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL ENERGY C.
CALLING AND TO SUPPORT- THE
TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS FOR
OFFSHORE WIND AND INTERAGENCY
COORDINATION. AND THE FUNDING
FOR OCEAN PROTECTION COUNCIL.
COASTAL COMMISSION ENERGY
COMMISSION TO. EVALUATE OFFSHORE
WIND AND ITS IMPACTS AND THEN
SECOND TO SUPPORT INVESTING FOUR
HUNDRED MILLION FOR COMMUNITY
SOLAR AND STORAGE WE WERE ONE OF
THE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THE
LEGISLATION LAST YEAR TO. GET
ENOUGH PROCESS AND START
DEVELOPING COMMITTEE FULLER
THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND WE
THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
DEVELOP COMMUNITY SOLAR TO BRING
PEOPLE BILL SAVINGS AT A TIME
WHEN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND
RENTERS HAVE BEEN LOCKED OUT OF
SOLAR SAVINGS- FINALLY WE ARE
SUPPORTING CONCEPT OF THE
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT IDEA AND-
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE HAVE NO
FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT THANK YOU
PLEASE CONTINUE. OKAY WELL THANK
YOU ALL I WOULD THINK EVERYONE
WHO TESTIFIED EITHER IN PERSON
OR- WHO CALLED IN IF YOU DID
NOT. GET THE CHANCE TO CALL
INTERVIEWED LIKE TO COMMENT
FURTHER IN WRITING- YOU CAN GET
YOUR COMMENTS TO US- TO THE
BUDGET AND FISCAL REVIEW
COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE.
YOUR COMMENTS ARE IMPORTANT TO
US TO INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY
OFFICIAL HEARING RECORDS. THANK
YOU WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION THANKS ALL OF OUR
PANELISTS TODAY FOR TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION.
AND THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AND COOPERATION
CONCLUDED THE JENNIFER CHASE
HEARING SENATE BUDGET SUB
COMMITTEE NUMBER TWO IS
INSURANCE.