SENATE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE
AND FINANCE WILL COME TO ORDER
SO GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY AND
WELCOME TO OUR COMMITTEE THE
SENATE COMMITTEE CONTINUES TO
WELCOME THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND
VIA THE TELECONFERENCING SERVICE
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
TODAY'S AGENDA ITEMS THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. SEVEN THREE SIX TWO EIGHT
THREE FOUR WE ARE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN THE-
STREET BUILDING AND I WANT TO
ASK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE TO PLEASE BE PRESENT
IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED. SO THAT
WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM IN
BEGINNER HERE ARE HEARING WE ARE
GOING TO START TODAY AS A SUB
COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN
WITHOUT DELAYS AND WE HAVE TWO
BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AGENDA-
WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITING
TESTIMONY AND WILL TAKE
EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AND IN
REGARDS TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE WE WILL BE TAKING THIRTY
MINUTES WORTH OF TESTIMONY ON ON
EITHER OF THE TWO ITEMS. FOR THE
TELECONFERENCE PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION OR SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND YOUR
POSITION WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
CAPTURE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN
SOME AND ASK EVERYBODY TO BE
CONCISELY WANNA MAKE SURE
EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO
TESTIFY. BEFORE WE HEAR WELL WE
DON'T HAVE A QUORUM SO I WAS
GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN ESTABLISH
A QUORUM AB SO WE'LL MOVE ON IN
HERE OUR FIRST DOT AUTHOR WHEN A
WELCOME SENATOR BRADFORD- YOU
HAVE FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE. SB
FIVE TWELVE WELCOME SIR. GOOD
MORNING VENTURE MEMBERS AND
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO PRESENT SB FIVE TWELVE- THIS
MEASURE WOULD JUST EXCLUDE TO
STATE CANNABIS EXCISE TAX AS
WELL AS OTHER LOCAL TAXES FROM
THE DEFINITION. OF GROSS
RECEIPTS UNDER THE STATE. SALES
AND USE TAX LAW ADDITIONALLY
THIS BILL WOULD PROHIBIT LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS FROM INCLUDING THE
SALES. THE STATE'S I SHOULD SAY
EXCISE TAX IN THE DEFINITION OF
GROSS RECEIPTS. THE MOMENTS THAT
WE TOOK LAST WEEK- INCORPORATED
COMMITTEE SUGGESTIONS RIGHT
THANK YOU FOR THAT. UNDER YOUR
PREVIOUS ANALYSIS HIGH TAXES X.
ACCESSORY A REGULATORY HURDLES
AND VARIOUS HURDLES. THAT
CANNABIS BUSINESSES HAVE TO DEAL
WITH HAVE DONE LITTLE TO HELP
THE LEGAL CANNABIS MARKET GROW
OUR SIXTY- THE WAY THE VOTER
CITY TURNED IN UNDER PROP SIXTY
FOUR. TAXES TAXING THE TAXES AND
- INCREASING PURCHASE PRICE IN
TO SPEND DO THIS INCENTIVIZE IS
THE CONSUMER FROM PURCHASING
FROM LEGAL RETAILERS CAN ONLY
HELP- ENCOURAGE THE LEGAL MARKET
AND- AS WE SEE- HOW ARE THE
RETAIL MARKET LEGAL RETAIL
MARKET I SAY STRUGGLES EVERY
DAY. BY MAKING THESE
CLARIFICATIONS SB FIVE TWELVE
WILL HELP REMEDY THE SITUATION
BY ENSURING TAXES ARE
CALCULATED. ON THE ACTUAL GOODS
BEING SOLD- WITH ME TODAY TO
PROVIDE OUR TESTIMONY IS SECURED
KYLE PRESIDENT OF UNITED
CANNABIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
AND KINCAID THE OWNER GRILLER
ARE ACTS WELL MISTER
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANKS VERY MUCH LEAD WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. WANT TO WELCOME YOU
. COME TO THE MIKE. THANK YOU
WANT TO FOR THE UPPER TO SPEAK-
SOUTH PART ABOUT TODAY'S
COMMITTEE MEETING IS THAT THE
CANNABIS INDUSTRY'S BAKING FOR
CRUMBS TODAY WE SHOULD BE
DEMANDING EQUITABLE TAXATION
THAT'S COMMENSURATE WITH THEIR
REPRESENTATION RECEIVING THE
SERVICES THAT COULD SUPPORT AN
UP LIFT THIS INDUSTRY. WE ARE
PLEADING FOR PEOPLE TO LISTEN
THAT THIS IS AN UNSUSTAINABLE
PATH FOR CALIFORNIA CANNABIS A
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN TAXES
ARE COLLECTED FROM THE SENATE
STREET. AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE
THE PROPER ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO
REDUCE THE GROWTH OF THE ILLICIT
INDUSTRY WE TINKER WITH A
SERIOUSLY FLAWED PROP SIXTY FOUR
EVERY YEAR AND SOMEHOW WE KEEP
NIPPING AT THE EDGES OF WHAT
REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE. AB ONE
NINETY FIVE CHANGE THE
COLLECTION THE CALCULATION AND
THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE TAXING
STRUCTURE AND IN DOING SO IT
CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF THE
STATE'S 15% EXCISE TAX AWAY FROM
A COST OF GOODS TAX. TO GROSS
RECEIPTS TAX THOSE CHANGES WERE
DRASTIC AND FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT
SEES DRASTIC CHANGES EVERY YEAR
WE TOOK IT IN STRIDE. UNTIL WE
FOUND THE CONFLICTS WITH
EXISTING LOCAL AND STATE LAWS
AND WE RAISE THE RED FLAG. HEADS
OF THE LOCAL AND STATE TAXING
AUTHORITIES ARREST TO CLEAN UP
THIS CONFLICT BECAUSE THE LEGAL
CANNABIS CONSUMERS CAUGHT IN THE
MIDDLE OF A TAXING LOOP. AFTER
THESE MEETINGS THE CONFLICT
STILL REMAINS SO THIS IS WHY
WE'RE HERE TODAY. USING THE
LEGISLATOR AGAIN TO CLEAN UP THE
MESS THAT IS CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A
39% CONSUMER TAX RATE. IN THE
LARGEST REVENUE GENERATING CITY
IN THE STATE. THAT IS ON TOP OF
ALL THE OTHER HIGH COST OF DOING
BUSINESS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN
THE STICKER PRICE- OF OUR TRACK
AND TRACE ARE TESTED AND ARE
COMPLIANT PRODUCTS. MY ANNUAL
PERMIT FEE TO RUN A RETAIL IS
NINETY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS A
YEAR. AND THAT IS BUILT INTO THE
STICKER PRICE THAT THE CONSUMER
SEES. AND WHEN THEY ENTER THE
HIGHER PATH RETAIL LOS ANGELES.
THEY THEY HAVE TO SEE THE
STICKER PRICE AND ALSO PAY THE
TAXES. IMAGINE BUYING A HUNDRED
DOLLARS WORTH OF PRODUCT AND
PAYING THIRTY NINE DOLLARS AND
CONSUMER TAXES ON TOP. OF THE
HUNDRED DOLLAR PRICE. SB FIVE
TWELVE OF THE CLEAN UP BILL WE
FIGURE IT'S TO CLARIFY THE
APPLICATION OF OUR EXCISE TAX
AFTER THE DEFINITION. OF THAT
TAX WHICH CHANGED UNDER AB ONE
NINETY FIVE THIS IS NORMAL CLEAN
UP DUTIES WHEN A MAJOR OVERHAULS
ARE DONE TO A SYSTEM AS COMPLEX.
AFTER ALL THE TIME. AFTER ALL
THE TAX CONFLICTS WE'RE
DISCUSSING AFFECT THE CUSTOMER
DIRECTLY. PLEASE TRY TO IMAGINE
EXPLAINING THIS TAX STRUCTURE TO
A CONSUMER. AND WHY WE HAVE TO
CHARGE. I HAVE TO SAY I'M
CHARGING A SIXTEEN AND A HALF
PERCENT EXCISE TAX BECAUSE THE
STATE EXCISE TAX TAXES THE LOCAL
GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. AND LOCAL
GROSS RECEIPTS TAX TAXES THE
STATE EXCISE TAX. I NEED TO
CHARGE YOU THE CUSTOMER TWELVE
POINT 99% GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. I
IMAGINE THIS IS A CONVERSATION
I'M HAVING WITH SOMEONE TRYING
TO BUY A JOINT. PLEASE SEE THAT
THESE CRIMES WE ARE FIGHTING FOR
TODAY ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE
OF ALL THE COMPETITORS OF THE
ILLEGAL COMPETITION. AND THAT
JUSTICE LOWER THIS JUST
INCREASES THE COST OF DOING
BUSINESS FOR US. AND ALL WE'RE
LOOKING FOR IS TO BE A
COMPETITIVE PRICE AND ILLICIT
INDUSTRY TO REDUCE THEIR
STRANGLEHOLD ON CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I. BOATS THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. REMEMBER IF I
COULD JUST TAKE A MINUTE- BEFORE
YOU SPEAK WE LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE
A QUORUM IF WE COULD TAKE THE
ROLE PLEASE. SENATORS CABALLERO
PRESENT CABALLERO PRESENTS A ARE
TO. HEAR THEIR TOOK PRESENTLY
EXPERIENCE PRESENT. PLACE WHERE
PRESIDENT. DOLLY DOLLY PRESENT
ASAL. DURACELL PRESENT GLAZER.
AS PRESENT SKINNER WIENER YOU
HAVE A QUORUM HAVE A QUORUM.
EXCELLENT RECEIVE. TAX GOT MORE
. MY NAME IS KEITH I AM THE
PROUD OWNER OF GUERRILLA ARE EX
WELLNESS CO. THE FIRST BLACK
WOMAN OWNED SOCIAL EQUITY
DISPENSARY IN LOS ANGELES. I
HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL THE
DOCUMENTS THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW
ALONG. WITH MY PRESENTATION. I'M
ALSO THE CO FOUNDER OF THE
SOCIAL EQUITY OWNERS AND WORKERS
ASSOCIATION. MY STORY IS
REPRESENTATIVE OF HUNDREDS OF
RETAIL EQUITY FOUNDERS ACROSS
THE STATE. IT HAS BEEN A LONG
AND CHALLENGING JOURNEY FOR US
TO OPEN DOORS. LIKE TO SHARE
WITH YOU SOME OF THE
EXTRAORDINARY BARRIERS TO SUCH
EQUITY RETAILERS FACE NINE
INDUSTRY. MY PATH TO LICENSURE
AND LOS ANGELES TO GO OVER
SEVENTEEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY
DAYS AND OVER THREE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN RENT.
BEFORE I EVER OPEN MY DOORS WELL
WE DO NOT REGULATORS IN
BUREAUCRATIC DELAYS. THE SUCCESS
EXCESSIVE WAITING PERIOD AND
FINANCIAL BURDEN ARE SOME OF THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS FACED
BY SOCIAL EQUITY OPERATORS. IN
ADDITION TO THE CHALLENGES IN
OBTAINING LICENSES FIRST EQUITY
OPERATORS NOW FACE THE
CONSIDERABLE FINANCIAL BARRIERS
ONCE WE OPEN OUR DOORS. I HAVE
PROVIDED YOU ON THE FRENCH SEE A
SNAPSHOT. OF MY FIRST SIX MONTHS
IN BUSINESS RELAX AT A TAX BILL
OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. NOT
TO MENTION THE TWO HUNDRED AND
SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT MY
CUSTOMERS ARE CHARGED WITH SALES
TAX. THE SUCCESS OF TAX UNFAIRLY
HURT SOCIAL EQUITY BUSINESSES AT
THE SOCIAL EQUITY OPERATORS AND
MOST IMPORTANTLY THE
DISPROPORTIONATELY DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. AND WHICH I THIRD.
LET'S REMEMBER THE GOAL OF.
SIXTY IT WAS UNDERCUT THE LIST
OF MY PRICES AND ENCOURAGE LEGAL
SALES. HIGH TAXES ARE DRIVING
CONSUMERS BACK TO THE ILLEGAL
MARKET WHICH IS THE ANTITHESIS
OF THE INTENT OF THE LAW. MY
DISPENSERS LOCATED ON CRENSHAW
BOULEVARD IN THE HEART OF SOUTH
CENTRAL LOS ANGELES. THERE IS
STILL A PROLIFERATION OF ILLEGAL
DISPENSARIES PLEASE TAKE A LOOK
AT THE MAP. I PROVIDED- ON THE
SECOND PAGE AND YOU CAN SEE THE
CONCENTRATION OF ILLEGAL
RETAILERS AND BLACK AND BROWN
COMMUNITIES. S. SOCIAL EQUITY
RETAILERS WE FACE UNIQUE
OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES. AND
THESE TAXES SENATORS ARE THE
FIRST STEP THAT MUST BE A
LEMONADE IT ESPECIALLY THE
DOUBLE TAXATION THAT IS DRIVING
MY CUSTOMERS BACK TO THE STREET
. I PROVIDING YOU AN ACTUAL
RECEIPT BECAUSE WE THROW AROUND
THESE PERCENTAGES 12% SIXTEEN
POINT NINE BUT WE REALLY DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO
THINK WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY
STORE. AND WHAT THE SAXES ME.
BUT YOU SEE THERE'S A RECEIPT
HERE FOR THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR
TRANSACTION THAT MY NEIGHBOR
BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORHOOD CUSTOMER
PAID. A HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN
DOLLARS IN TAXES THAT'S THIRTY
EIGHT POINT FIVE PERCENT. 15% OR
AS JARRETT SAID ACTUALLY 16% IN
THE CALIFORNIA EXCISE TAX IS
FORTY FIVE DOLLARS NEXT THE CITY
TAX THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TEN
PERCENT. BUT THEN HERE COMES THE
DOUBLE TAXATION THOUGHT ACTUALLY
GOES TO ELEVEN POINT 5% THE PAN
ANOTHER THIRTY FOUR FIFTY FOR
THE SAME TRANSACTION. AND NOW
TAKE A LOOK AT THE SALES TAX
WHICH SHOULD BE NINE POINT 5%
AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE BACK I'VE
ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED THE
PERCENTAGES OF WHAT THEY SHOULD
BE. AND WHAT THE ACTUAL RATE
THAT THESE CUSTOMERS ARE PAYING
. NOW YOU TELL ME. WHY WITH MY
CUSTOMERS COME BACK. WE ARE IN
URGENT NEED FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF
SB FIVE TWELVE MY COMMUNITY IS
FACING A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS MY
PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO CONSUME
TESTED CANNABIS. IT IS THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA RESPONSIBILITY TO
ENSURE THE LEGAL CANNABIS IS
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO
CONSUMERS WHO WANT TO DO THE
RIGHT THING. BUT THIS WILL HELP
US AND TO CUT THE ILLICIT MARKET
AND INCREASE REVENUE FOR THE
STATE IN THE LONG RUN IT IS A
WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
THE IMPACT OF YOUR VOTE HAS EVEN
GREATER IMPLICATIONS TO
STRENGTHEN THE COMMUNITIES
SPECIFICALLY ARE COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY
DISADVANTAGED. BY REDUCING THE
TAXES WE CAN CREATE NEW JOBS
INCREASE LIVING WAGES AND
PROVIDE HEALTH BENEFITS THIS
MEANS. INCREASED PAYROLL TAXES
INCREASED INCOME AND SALES TAXES
WHEN THEY GO AND SPEND MONEY AT
SMALL BUSINESSES IN MY
COMMUNITY. SO I URGE YOU ALL FOR
I BELIEVE IN SUPPORT SB FIVE
TWELVE THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR THE-
THE- EVERY. IF YOU WELL IT'S
ALWAYS HELPFUL TO SEE IT. IN
WRITING WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON
TO LEAD TO A- WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT WHEN A
WELCOME YOU. TO THE MIKE. MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS GEORGE MILLER ON
BEHALF OF WEEDMAPS IN SUPPORT
SITE SET FEEL LIKE WE HAD THE
TEA PARTY. BOSTON TEA PARTY OVER
LESS THAN THIS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS AMY
JENKINS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CANNABIS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION AN INDEPENDENT
COMPANIES CAN'T CRAFT AND SPARK
IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU. BROWN'S REMEMBERS
RANDY MARTIN ON BEHALF OF THE
PARENT COMPANY PLEASE HELP
STRENGTHEN THE LEGAL MARKET
AGAINST THE ILLEGAL MARKET BY
PASSING SB FIVE TWELVE THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TELL YOU
TOMATO ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
NORMAL WE REPRESENT CONSUMERS
ALSO IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
EXCELLENT BILL THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING
JONATHAN STACK CO EXECUTOR ACTOR
YOU SEE BA AS WELL AS HERE IN
REPRESENTATION BY ANGELES
EMERALDS AND THE MONTEBELLO
CAMPUS BUT OUR- OPERATORS
ASSOCIATION ON SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM- THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
. CNN WILL MOVE ON TO LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IS THERE
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE
AS A LEAD UP OPPOSITION WITNESS.
IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED. SEEING
NO MOVEMENT IS OR ANYBODY WITH
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. AS AS A ME TOO TO.
THIS BILL. ZING NINE WE'RE GONNA
MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE MODERATOR IF YOU COULD
QUEUE UP MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION NOW IS THE TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FINANCIAL
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME AGAIN IT'S ONE ZERO. THE
SEATTLE FIRST CAROLINE SEVENTY
NINE. THIS YOUR LINE IS OPEN-
PETER CONSERVE OUR MOTHERS I
MEAN. WHAT IS THE ADDRESS WHERE
YES. I THINK THE REST OF OUR CEO
AT GROVE LLC I'M A- SUBJECT MANY
. DISTRIBUTOR CHAO SUPPORT OF SB
FIVE TWELVE THANK YOU THINK VERY
MUCH. TEXAS LINE. TWENTY NINE.
BY TWENTY YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YES
MONEY IS VIRGIL- FROM CALIFORNIA
MINORITY ALLIANCE AND CREATOR OF
SOCIAL EQUITY FOR LA IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE FOIL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. LINE. FIFTY
SEVEN. CAN JONES WITH HELP.
MINORITY ALLIANCE BOARD MEMBER-
WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE CORRECT-
ALL THE STEPS. AND MISSTEPS OF
THE INDUSTRY AND IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF- SB FIVE TWELVE WHICH
IS A GOOD CORRECTIVE FOUR STAR.
THANK YOU SIR. THE LINE. SIXTEEN
I AM FOR ARMSTRONG I REPRESENT
AMERICANS FOR SAFE ACCESS. ON
BEHALF OF AMERICANS FOR SAFE
ACCESS THE CALIFORNIA DIVISION
PLEASE STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF THIS FOR THE BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. LINE FIFTY EIGHT.
MORNING MY NAME IS IBM CIRCLE OF
LIFE BY OF THE BE A WE SHOP FOR
OUR OWN MARCO CALLING SUPPORT S.
FIVE TWELVE. THANK YOU. NINE
SEVENTY. THIS IT WAS MARTIN
COULD ON BEHALF OF THE HEALING
AND I AM ORDERS S. B. FIVE ONE
THREE. THE LINE THIRTY. THE ONLY
RUTH GARLAND WITH SO EQUITY LA.
AND THE LOS- WELCOME OPERATE
KNOWN IN RESPONSE IN PART AS
FIVE TWELVE EIGHTY THANK YOU.
EXCEPT LINE EIGHT. HELLO MY NAME
ON IT IN THE CALLING THE BEHALF
OF THE CULTURAL ABOUT CANNON
ALLY NETWORK. AND I'M INSTRUCTED
COR ABOUT SB FIVE TO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU- LINE PART MAIL ONLINE
. ONE OH FOUR. THAT GOT ME.
YOU'RE ON STEP. HI MY NAME IS
TONY AND ME- OWNER OF THAT
CANNABIS RETAIL SHOPS IN CARMEL
CALIFORNIA BIG SUR CANDOR
TENTACLES AND I AM STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE TALK. THANK
YOU. LINE TWELVE. HI MY NAME IS
HERE CONTROL- I'VE BEEN IN THE
BUSINESS TEN YEARS ON THE TRUCK
PART OF FIFTY FIVE WELL I'VE
BEEN IN THE BUSINESS TEN YEARS
I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT THE BELOW
THE RESPECTIVE OF EVERYONE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY. TWENTY SEVEN.
HELLO NAME IS AUTUMN KENYA I'M
CALLING BEHALF ONE OF MINE OF.
ST AND I STRONGLY TO AS YOU FIVE
BECAUSE THIS IS NECESSARY THANK
YOU THANK YOU. THANK SEVENTY
TWO. MORNING CALL TO INQUIRE
ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
LINE. SEVENTY EIGHT. HELLO MY
NAME IS CARLOS VILLATORO AND THE
OWNER AND OPERATOR CORNERSTONE
WELLNESS WHICH IS A LATINO OWNED
BUSINESS AND ONE OF THE REGIONAL
COUNTRIES. WITH CITY OF LOS
ANGELES I'VE BEEN HERE FROM THE
BEGINNING I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED
REGULATED AND EQUITABLE INDUSTRY
FOR OVER SIXTEEN YEARS I
STRONGLY SUPPORT AB FIVE TWELVE.
THANK YOU. FOUR NINE ONE OR NINE
. THREE FIFTEEN DAMON HUMBOLDT
COUNTY IS I WANTED TO COMMENT ON
THE S. C. A. FOR- WAR TAKING
WE'RE JUST TAKING-
IDENTIFICATION- AND WHETHER
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
SO THIS YEAR FOUR OF. FCA FOR I
KNOW I'M SORRY IT'S- SB FIVE
TWELVE. I WENT WHAT WELL AS OR
VIA WENT FINISHED. WITH SB. FIVE
TWELVE- ALWAYS BEEN THANK YOU.
IN LINE FIFTY FIVE. THANK YOU
NAME IS LOUIS OF I'M A MEMBER OF
THE SOCIAL EQUITY OWNERS AND
WORKERS OF. ALIGNMENTS OF SB
FIVE HELLO THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LINE. FIFTEEN HI MY
NAME IS EMILY ONE I'M WITH
CORNERSTONE WELLNESS AND I
SUPPORT AND FIVE TWELVE. THANK
YOU. LINE FORTY. THE MORNING ON
THE MALE DIRECTOR OF THE LONG
BEACH COLLECTIVE ASSOCIATION THE
TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR THE LEGAL
CANNABIS OPERATIONS IN LONG
BEACH AND WE AREN'T STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SEE LINE.
EIGHTY ONE. HI MY NAME IS
DEVELOP FAR FROM REGIONAL GREEN
CROSS I STRONGLY IT THE FIVE
TWELVE WHICH IS MUCH YOU FOR OUR
COMMUNITY OUR CUSTOMERS AND WE
CANADA PLEASE ALSO ALL OVER.
THANK YOU. LINE. SIXTY THREE.
MICHAEL HERE I AM ALSO I BELIEVE
ADDED CITY OF LONG BEACH I'M
AUTHORS IO'S THAT THE AND ALL
POLL PAY MIGHT. I AM SO IN
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE TWELVE THANK
YOU THANK YOU. ONE THIRD. TWO HI
MY NAME IS ONE OF YOUR
COMPETITORS IN YOUR KIND OF THE
CONSULTANT OF TWELVE YEARS AT
CORNERSTONE LINE AS AN EAGLE
ROCK CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN
STRONG SUPPORT AT THE BY TWELVE.
THANK YOU. LINE. FORTY THREE.
FORTY THREE. BIGELOW LINE SIXTY
TWO. BERNIE REJECTING THURMOND
WITH JDBC DELIVERY BILLIARDS
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE TWELVE. THANK
YOU. LINE ONE OH EIGHT. MORE A
MATTER CHAIRMAN OF THE- OUR
BEHALF THIS IS RIDE ON BEHALF OF
GOOD FOR GRADING BAY INSTEAD OF
THE COUNTY. THIS IS ACCEPTABLE
REFORM. TO FIX A TAX ON TOP FROM
METHOD. WE WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR OF STEEP BRADFORD WE ARE
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE
SIXTY. GOOD MORNING MORNING
CIRCLE HAD THEM AM EIGHTY OFFER
EQUITY ARE OF THE GOING CAL AS
WELL AS THE OF ON GROWERS. AND I
WANTED- X. MY WORK FOR AT EIGHT
FIVE WELL WHICH WILL. HELP FIX
AND. AND PROFITABILITY THANK YOU
THANK YOU MUCH I'M GOING TO MAKE
SURE WE GET THROUGH EVERYBODY
THAT'S ON THE AND SO WERE. TIME
IS TICKING. YOU COULD JUST SAY
WHETHER YOU'RE INTO ENOUGH AT BE
GREAT THANK YOU. A LINE. EIGHTY
THREE. BERMAN WHO CHIU- WITH THE
BRING TORRANCE- AM SHOCKED THIS
WE WILL THANK YOU. NINE TWENTY
ONE- I'M NICK RECORD STONE
STRONG SUPPORT OF THAT'S FIVE
TWELVE THANK YOU. I KNOW NINETY.
NINETY FIVE. BLIND. ONE OH TWO.
HI MY NAME IS ANITA MCANALLY I'M
WITH FIRE HOUSE THE LIVERY OF
THE MICRO BUSINESS WE ARE IN
SUPPORT FROM THE POINT OF THE SB
FIVE WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LINE. FORTY SEVEN. CALLING ON
BEHALF OF THE CANNABIS
DISTRIBUTORS ASSOCIATION AND NAY
MATHIS TRADITION I SUPPORT SB
FIVE TWELVE THANK YOU THANK YOU
. LINE. EIGHTY FIVE. BONTA BLIND
. NINETY SEVEN. I'M ABOUT TO BE
OWNER OPERATOR AND FLOWER
POLICIES NINE. FIVE FOUR SIX
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHY. TWENTY
SIX. REMEMBER CARLA DEL MAR OR
FROM THE FARM BRING IN BRING
YOUR- AND FOR ABOUT HE TOOK
SONGS THE THANK YOU. I THANK
SEVENTY ONE. HELLO MY NAME IS
JOHN BRING ON THE DAY GREEN AND
TORE AND I SB FIVE TWELVE. THANK
YOU. FIND ONE. I'M HERE BECAUSE
THE IN IN- THE POINT OF IT BE A
FOUR THAT WOULD BE THE NEW BILL-
BE TAKING IT- PRESENTLY THANK
YOU. REPLY. NINE BOB DOLE ON THE
BECAUSE OF THE RATIONS OF THE
DAM DONE BY CANNABIS- I'M
AGAINST THAT. OF THE- THANK YOU
FOR MUCH. LINE FORTY SIX. ABOUT
MARTIN WORK FOR LOW AND I
SUPPORT SB FIVE TWELVE THANK YOU
. I AM FORTY FIVE THE. THE
MORNING MY NAME IS AMIR THE
BOARD MEMBER OF THE EQUITY ONLY
AND WORKERS. NEWLY LICENSEE READ
AND ALLOW ANGELES I COOPER S. B.
TWELVE THANK YOU. ONE GO AHEAD.
VITAL. ONE EIGHTEEN. HI MY NAME
IS JAMES I'M A CARRILLO ACTS AND
I AM SURE IN SUPPORT OF SAN BILL
FIVE TWELVE. THANK YOU. BLIND
ONE TWENTY SIX. ONE ONE TWENTY
SIX. WHICH IS. LINE ONE TWENTY
SEVEN. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY
BUT IT OUT REPORT DONALD. I AM A
BOARD MEMBER OF THE SOCIAL
EQUITY OWNERS AND WORKERS
ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS- THE
CANNABIS EQUITY POLICY COUNCIL-
OF SPACEFLIGHT RETAIL DISPENSARY
IN LOS ANGELES AND ORANGE STRONG
SUPPORTER FIVE TWELVE THANK YOU
TO THE SENATOR BRADFORD FOR US
THIS AMAZING. PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. FIVE TWO. YES MY NAME JAMES
WILL HOMES HAVE WELL HOMES BY
FAR AND I AM SUPPORTING SB FIVE
TWELVE. THANK YOU. NINE ONE
THIRTY EIGHT. THE CORRECT RIGHT
HERE- REPRESENTING AT L. A. AND
AS WELL AS BE SUPPORTER THAT THE
FEDERAL. THANK YOU LINE ONE
THIRTY THREE. ONE THREE THREE.
MMHM MANY IS MONA I. PRIME
MINISTER ON SUPPORTED THE AGE
THANK YOU THANK YOU. FIVE ONE
THIRTY TWO. HI MY NAME IS
CHARLES LARKIN ON THE FOUNDER
NOT AT SGF DELIVERY AND ANGELES
AND BOARD MEMBER OF SUBJECT
OWNERS WORKERS WAS. AS A SB FIVE
TWELVE. THANKS BRAD THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LINE ONE FORTY NINE.
HI MY NAME IS SARAH JESSICA
OFFICE FROM DELTA NINETY A LOT
ANGELES AND I COULD FOR A FEE FI
ONCE PART ONE. THANK YOU FOR
MUCH. WHY ONE FIFTY ONE. HI MY
NAME IS ASHLEY GIPSON ON THE
OTHER OF- RELIGIOUS- MICHAEL
BUSINESS IN FACT AND IN PALM
SPRINGS. AND HE SUPPORTER OF.
THANK YOU. NINE ONE SIX. HELLO I
GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS BEING
OF I AM CALLING IN REFERENCE-
ACT TRADED NETWORK AS WELL AS
THE BILL WOMEN- I AM CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF S. E. FIVE OF THANK
YOU THANK YOU. KEPLER ONE THIRTY
SO. ONE SAID IT OPENS MY NAME IS
SHEILA GROWN HERE BECAUSE OF
GROW THAT ARE WELL AND I AM IN
FOR AS. FIVE THANK YOU. GIVE ME
A SMALL WE HAVE GOT ONE IN Q. K.
M. A. OUTLINE ONCE. SIX ONE
SIXTY SIX A LINE IS OPEN. THANKS
RENDON LAWRENCE AND I'M THE
OWNER OF ROSA AND I. OR AT THE
ONE TWO. THANK YOU VERY.
BANKROLLING AND FURTHERING YOU
VERY GOOD COM THANK YOU TO WHO
TESTIFY IN AND DID IT. EXPERT WE
WERE ABLE TO GET IN- WE'RE GONNA
BRING IT BACK COMMITTEE FOR IT.
COMMON QUESTION CONCERNS CENTER
GLAZER OKAY. THANK YOU- THE
FIRST THINK THERE'S A OF COMMON
GROUND FOR THESE FROM MY POINT
OF VIEW IN TERMS OF THE PROBLEMS
IN THE- IN THE MARKETPLACE TODAY
I CERTAINLY DON'T DISPUTE THAT
AND- EITHER SO AT SO MANY LEVELS
BOTH THE INABILITY TO- CRACKDOWN
ON THE ILLEGAL. GROWING OF
CANNABIS TO THE LICENSING
PROBLEMS THE REGULATIONS THAT
MADE IT SOMEBODY DESCRIBES AS A
MASS- THEY PROBABLY KNOW MORE
THAN I BUT THESE FROM THIS
VANTAGE POINT. OVER MANY YEARS
IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM
AND I RECOGNIZE THE AUTHORS
EFFORTS TO TRY TO MAKE IT
BETTER- THE ISSUES THAT I THAT I
HAVE WITH THE BILL IS NOT ABOUT
THE NEED TO TRY TO FIND RELIEF
IT'S ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING IT. I
WANTED ASKED A COUPLE QUESTIONS
TO THIS. TO THE CONSULTANT
WORKED ON THIS BILL FOR THE
COMMITTEE VERY GOOD- ON PAGE TWO
OF YOUR ANALYSIS- YOU WRITE THIS
PROP SIXTY FOUR EXPLICITLY
PROVIDES. IT GROSS RECEIPTS FROM
THE SALE OF MARIJUANA OR
MARIJUANA PRODUCTS FOR SALES AND
USE. TAX PURPOSES INCLUDES. THE
CANNABIS EXCISE TAX WHICH IS
MEASURE. PROPOSES TO CHANGE- IS
THERE ANY. LEGAL OPINION THAT
YOU FIVE GOTTEN FROM LEDGE
COUNCIL OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT
THAT SAYS THAT. THIS IS
APPROPRIATE FOR THE LEGISLATURE
TO REVERSE. A EXPLICIT ELEMENT
OF A BALLOT PROPOSITION. I'M NOT
RECEIPT OF ANY DEVICE OF THAT
NATURE. SO HAVEN'T ANY ADVICE
FROM LEDGE COUNCILS TO WHETHER
THIS IS EVEN A LEGAL BILL THAT
CAN STAND UP. TO A CHALLENGE
THAT THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING IN
THE MEASURE THAT THAT TRIES TO-
MITIGATE THIS VULNERABILITY OF
THOUGHT- REVERSING WHAT THE
VOTERS SEEM TO LIVE AS YOU WRITE
EXCLUSIVELY PROVIDED. BY THE
MEASURE DOES INCLUDE A
LEGISLATIVE FINDING THAT IS CAN
IT IS CONSISTENT AND FURTHERS
THE PURPOSES OF THE ACT- WHICH
IS- ED PROPOSITION SIXTY FOUR-
AND SO THAT IS- THAT IS INCLUDED
WITHIN THE BILL- HOW DO YOU DO
THAT WHEN IT REVERSES AN
EXPLICIT ELEMENT OF THE MEASURE
HOW ARE THEY PROPOSING THAT.
THOSE FINDINGS PROVIDE THAT
MEDICATION. IT'S A IT WAS. THE
DOCTOR WITH THE AUTHOR BUT IT
WAS THE- DECISION TO INCLUDE
THAT FINDING WITHIN THE MEASURE-
AND IT IS ALSO NECESSARY ONE FOR
THE LEGISLATURE TO AMEND PROP
SIXTY FOUR. GOT IT ONE ONE- NEXT
QUESTION ALSO AT THE BOTTOM OF
THE PAGE TO. THE REVIEW THE FACT
THAT LAST YEAR AND RECORDING THE
LEGISLATURE COMPREHENSIVELY
REFORMED. CANNABIS TAXATION.
INCLUDING SUSPENDING THE
CULTIVATION TAX. AND SHIFTING
THE POINT OF COLLECTION OF THE
EXCISE TAX TO CANNABIS
DISTRIBUTORS TO RETAILERS SO.
PART OF THE COMPLAINT THAT'S
BEEN. ADVANCED IN THE IN THE- IN
THE SUPPORT OF THIS BILL IS THE-
EFFECT ON RETAILERS IN TERMS OF
THIS TAX. AND WE HAD A WITNESS
VERY ARTICULATE. PROVIDE
INFORMATION EVIDENCE THAT TALKS
ABOUT HOW THIS TAXATION IS BEING
FORCED ON THEM VERSES. ON THE-
THE CULTIVATORS- IF THE
LEGISLATURE MADE THESE CHANGES
LAST YEAR- ARE WE IN A POSITION
TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES ALONG
THOSE SAME LINES THIS YEAR. THAT
DON'T AFFECT PROPOSITION SIXTY
FOURS EXPLICIT PROHIBITION BUT
DOES CHANGE THE TAXATION LEVELS-
THAT WE THAT WE CREATE HERE. AT
THE S. R. EIGHTY ONE NINETY
FIVE. I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE
CHECK MY BELIEVE IT ALSO CAN
INCLUDE A SIMILAR FINDING THAT
IT WAS CONSISTENT FURTHERS THE
PURPOSES OF THE ACT- AND I'M NOT
AWARE OF ANY SUBSEQUENT
LITIGATION THAT- ON AB ONE
NINETY FIVE THAT CHALLENGE THE
LEGISLATURE'S ACTION IN THAT
REGARD AND SO WE COULD ACTUALLY
REDUCE THE EXCISE TAX THAT. IF
WE WANTED TO. I WANT TO. CAN THE
PREDICT WHAT OF WHAT A COURT ME
DEAL I- BUT THE BUT PROP SIXTY
FOUR DIDN'T SAY WE HAD TO. AT IT
DIDN'T ASSESS THIS SPECIFIC TAX
RATES. IT SAID HOW TAXATION'S
OUTS AXES WOULD BE CALCULATED IS
THAT RIGHT THE PROPOSITION SIXTY
FOUR DID IMPOSE A 15% EXCISE TAX
RATE OKAY SO WE COULDN'T CHANGE
THAT ARE THERE OTHER TAXES IN
REGARD TO CANNABIS THAT WE CAN
CHANGE. WELL THIS PROPOSITION
SIXTY FOUR ALSO IMPOSED A
CULTIVATION TAX- IN BUT AS PART
OF PART OF AB ONE NINETY FIVE WE
SUSPENDED THE OPERATION OF THE
CULTIVATION TAX AND THEN
DIRECTED THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE I BELIEVE IN THREE YEARS
TO CALCULATE NET QUICK ONE TAX
RATE- THERE WAS EFFECTIVE I
BELIEVE. JULY ONE OF TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE IF I RECALL
CORRECTLY SO THAT WAS THE
DEFENSE FROM LAST YEAR'S MEASURE
TO- AN ACCUSATION THAT WE WERE
SOMEHOW. GOING AGAINST THE WILL
OF PROP THE PEOPLE IN PROP SIXTY
FOUR. IS THERE ANYTHING AT THAT
THAT'S BEING APPLIED TO THIS
MEASURE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR
TO DEFEND AT LEAST. THIS WHAT IS
IT APPEARS TO BE A COMPLETE
REVERSAL OF WHAT PROP SIXTY FOUR
REQUIRED. AT THE ONLY THE- THAT
I'M AWARE OF THAT I WOULD DEFER
TO THE THAT IT IT'S- LET'S.
FINDING IT IS CONSISTENT WITH
AND FURTHERS THE PURPOSES OF THE
ACT OKAY. SO THAT REALLY IT
REMAINS THE QUESTION FOR ME NOT
THAT IT'S UP THERE'S PROBLEMS IN
THE INDUSTRY THAT WE SHOULD LOOK
FOR WAYS TO MITIGATE. BUT HOW WE
DO IT HOW WE DOING IT THE RIGHT
WAY ARE WE DOING IT THE WRONG
WAY AND THAT'S THAT. THAT'S WHAT
TROUBLES ME IN THE BILL BEFORE
US. VETR WIENER. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FURNITURE- I FULLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL AND- HONESTLY I WISH
IT WOULD GO. FURTHER BUT I KNOW
WE HAVE CONSTRAINTS AND I
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. WE CALIFORNIA IT IS
EITHER COMMITTED TO HAVING A
LEGAL A HEALTHY LEGAL CANNABIS
MARKET OR NOT. WERE EITHER
COMMITTED TO SERVE DRAINING THE
ILLICIT MARKET. OR NOT AND RIGHT
NOW WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT IS
ABSOLUTELY IF WE IF WE WERE TO
SIT DOWN AND SAY LET'S LET'S.
LEGALIZE CANNABIS PLANTS GO OUT
OF HER WAY TO FUEL THE ILLICIT
MARKET. WE WOULD DESIGN A LOT OF
THE SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW BY HAVING
SUPER HIGH TAXES- HI
REGULATIONS- AND BASICALLY. FIVE
THREATENS TO DESTROY THE
INDUSTRY WE SO MANY BILLS MOVING
THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
SAFETY ON. LAW CENTER ELDORADO
GILL HAS HAD A AS A BILL WHICH I
SUPPORTED AFTER SOME AMENDMENTS
TO- ALLOW INCREASED SEIZURE OF
US SOME OF THESE ILLEGAL GROWS.
THAT'S A REAL ISSUE IN TERMS OF
ENVIRONMENTAL IT CETERA- WE HAVE
HAD- BILLS- THE CHAIRS HAD BILLS
ABOUT ILLEGAL THEFT OF WATER-
WHICH WE MOVED OUT OF- I GUESS
PUBLIC SAFETY I GUESS SO- IT WAS
LAST YEAR. THESE AND- THESE
ISSUES DON'T JUST APPEAR. HERE
BECAUSE WE'VE SET UP A SYSTEM
DESIGNED TO FAIL AND WE ARE
MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO
IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE- LEGAL
CANNABIS MARKET- TO SURVIVE LET
ALONE THRIVE. AND THIS IS ONE
PIECE OF IT- YOU KNOW WE HAVE
VERY HIGH STATE TAXES CREATED BY
PROP SIXTY FOUR. AND THEN WE
HAVE ALLOWED CITIES TO JUST PILE
ON ON TOP OF IT IT'S ABSOLUTELY-
ABSURD- ANYTHING WE PASSED WHEN
WE LEGALIZE CANNABIS RECENT MOST
TAXED AND REGULATED. AND THAT'S
FINE I SUPPORT THAT BUT THERE
HAVE TO BE LIMITS AND I'M I'M
NOT ALLERGIC TO TAXES AND MUCH-
YOU KNOW LEFTY DEMOCRAT FROM SAN
FRANCISCO BUT SOMETIMES YOU KNOW
YOU CAN GO TOO. FAR AND WE'VE
GONE TO FAR AND THIS IS AT LEAST
ONE STAFF AND PROVIDE. RELIEF
REALLY TO THE SIDE- SO AND I
WANTED TO SAY ON. OF YOU KNOW
THIS IS MORNING SUPPORT IN ALSO
ABOUT. SAFETY RIGHT WE IT IS MY-
BETTER AND- FOR CONSUMERS TO BE
ABLE TO GO TO. A BUSINESS THAT
IS A LEGIT LEGAL BUSINESS I'M
PURCHASE PRODUCT AND KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT IS IN THAT PRODUCT
LOOK WHAT TYPE OF CANNABIS WHAT
THE QUANTITY IS. AND BE INSURED
. BE CONFIDENT IN THE PURITY AND
SAFETY OF THE PRODUCT AS OPPOSED
TO NOT REALLY KNOWING FOR SURE-
SO I SUPPORT THIS BILL AND I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE IT. THERE IS A
MOTION OTHER COMMENTS CENTER
DOLLY. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS I. DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT
ON THIS BILL WHEN IT FIRST CAME
ABOUT I LAID OFF THE BILL.
OBVIOUSLY I HATE THAT OUR STATE
CHARGES SO MANY TAXES ON A
VARIETY OF ISSUES BUT- ON THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE. REPRESENTING
MY DISTRICT WHERE WE HAVE
CULTIVATION MAINLY WE DO HAVE
DISPENSARIES- OBVIOUSLY. BUT
MOST OF CULTIVATION AND MOSTLY
ILLEGAL CULTIVATION. AND AS
SOMEBODY WHO'S WORKED. WHAT THE
CHAIR ON MANY OF THESE ISSUES
AND IN DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AT
TALKING ABOUT THE ILLEGAL GROWS
THAT WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA AND
THE LACK. OF ENFORCEMENT
BASICALLY ZERO ENFORCEMENT WE
HAVE A LITTLE BIT- THE COUNTIES
CAN DO WHAT THEY ARE OF THE ABLE
TO DO. SO WE WENT AND PROP WE
PASSED PROP SIXTY FOUR. TO TRY
TO BRING THIS. WILD WEST
APPROACH INTO SOME SORT OF THE
AREA WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY
REGULATE AND TAX. AND THE VOTERS
PASSED IT AND HERE WE ARE NOW
YEARS LATER TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT. WHAT'S THE PROPER PLACE TO
GO AND HOW DO WE DO IT BUT INTEL
WE- YOU KNOW I THINK WAS REALLY
GREAT YOU BROUGHT YOU BROUGHT
YOUR INFORMATION AND- I'M A
BUSINESS OWNER CALIFORNIA I
DON'T DO WHAT WOULD YOU DO. BUT
I'M TAXED ON TAXES AND I'M TAX
LOCALLY AND I TALK ABOUT THAT.
AT LEAST AND NOBODY SEEMS TO
CARE WE CAN AFFORD IT WE CAN
JUST PASS IT ON TO OUR CUSTOMERS
WILL IN YOUR CASE. YOU HAVE THIS
MAP ON THE BACK HERE WITH A
CIRCLE WITH ALL THESE ILLEGAL.
FOLKS WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS
NEXT YEAR. THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR
YOUR BUSINESS. AND WE HAVE NO
ENFORCEMENT WHAT IS THE
APARTMENT IS HAVING YOUR
BUSINESS I I'D LIKE TO ASK THE
AUTHOR. WHERE WHERE WE AREN'T
FORCING PEOPLE TO STOP DOING
WITH IT OR WHAT SO WHAT IF WE
JUST DIDN'T DO WE DON'T DO
ANYTHING TO THE ILLEGAL PEOPLE
WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS.
SITUATION CHANGE THIS BILL IS
NOT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT THIS BILL
IS ABOUT ENCOURAGING AND- AND
SUPPORTING AND STANDING UP A
LEGAL INDUSTRY THAT WAS PASSED
BY THE VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA. BUT
I WILL ASSURE YOU IF YOU TALK
290% OF FOLKS WHO VOTED FOR PROP
SIXTY FOUR. THEY WERE UNAWARE OF
ALL THESE TAXES THAT WERE
INCLUDED IN THE MEASURE ONE
IMPORT WHEN IT WAS PASSED WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS YOU CAN.
MAKE IT WORK. YOUR RESIDENT YOUR
CONSUMER WILL NEVER WILL GO INTO
A LEGAL FACILITY AS CLEARLY AS
SENATOR WIENER- EXPRESS TO KNOW
THAT IT'S- BEEN TESTED. IT'S
SAFE BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S
NOT 40% MORE THAN THAT LEGAL.
LEGAL OPERATIONS BY ALLOWING
THESE EXORBITANT TAXES ARE THE
BE- PLACED ON THE CONSUMER THAT
CHOOSES TO GO INTO THE- THE
LEGAL. ESTABLISHMENT SO- THIS IS
NOT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT BUT I
GUARANTEE IT'S ABOUT DISSUADING.
ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO USE IN
KANNADA AND PATRONIZE LEGAL
OPERATORS HERE DOING IT TO SAVE
FROM RIGHT WHAT. I THANK YOU FOR
THAT- I WANTED TO SAY THAT- I
HAVE. PEOPLE THAT ARE DESTROYING
OUR STREAMS AND- POLLUTING OUR
OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND WE DO
NOTHING TO STOP THEM AND WE I
HAVE LEGAL OPERATORS WHO ARE
FARMERS WHO WERE. DOWNSTREAM OR
UPSTREAM OF THESE ILLEGAL GROWS
WHICH THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT FOR
GETTING PENALIZED FOR THE
QUALITY OF THE STREAM THAT
THEY'RE ON. AND THERE IS NO
THERE'S NO JUSTICE IN THIS AND
SO AND THEN LAST YEAR WE TOOK
THE POINT OF. UPSET OR THE TAX
AWAY FROM THEM AND PUT IT TO THE
RETAILER IT WHICH IS NOT IN MY
DISTRICT SO I HAVE A LEGAL GROWN
MY DISTRICT WE DON'T GET THE TAX
OR ACTUALLY GO OUT AND ENFORCE.
THE LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS
TO KEEP GET ILLEGALS OUT SO THAT
THAT'S MY PROBLEM WITH THIS THIS
WHOLE SYSTEM IS THAT. YOU CAN
CONTINUE TO TALK OF AND IN IN IN
IN THAT I THINK THEY HAVE PARKER
CO. EVERY OTHER BUSINESS IN
CALIFORNIA IS FACED WITH THE
SAME AMOUNT OF. THE ISSUES
REGULATIONS A TAXES WE DON'T DO
ANYTHING TO HELP THEM AND WE
HAVE. ILLEGALS GOING ON THERE SO
FOR THOSE REASONS I'M ONLY UP
THE BILL. I'M ASSUMING IT GETS
OUT OF HERE NO PROBLEM. AND I
HAD A VERY GREAT CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE SPONSORS OF THE BILL. A
YESTERDAY ON ASSUME. AND THEY
ENCOURAGED ME TO TALK ABOUT THE
ILLICIT MARKET BECAUSE THEY'RE-
FRUSTRATED AS WELL AND I KNOW
YOUR TO. BUT SOMEONE HAS TO BE
EQUITY AND WE HAVE A WE HAVE A
PROPOSITION. THAT WAS PUT INTO
PLACE. AND WE ARE MANIPULATING
THAT. AND WHERE THE TAXES GET
COLLECTED. IS WHERE THE TECH
WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT MONEY GOES
TO THOSE COUNTIES CITIES TO DO
THE FORSMAN AND WE DON'T DO ANY
ENFORCEMENT. OF THOSE REASONABLE
AGAIN LAY OUT THE BILL BECAUSE I
THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX ANY
PROBLEMS HERE. IN AND WE'RE
GONNA BE RIGHT BACK HERE TRYING
TO FIGURE IT OUT AND IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO RUN. A BUSINESS IN
CALIFORNIA ANY KIND OF BUSINESS
BECAUSE OF. THE SAME TYPES OF
ISSUES AND ALL BUSINESSES THANK
YOU. SENATE BILL EXTRA. IF THEY
YOU I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES
COMMENTS I THINK THERE ARE
POTENTIALLY A LOT OF BILLS BUT
THIS IS THE ONE IN FRONT OF US
AND I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING
IT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO
STRENGTHEN THE LEGAL MARKET
AGAINST THE ILLEGAL MARKET. I
THINK- US SENATOR GLAZERS THE
ROOT OF HIS QUESTIONING WAS.
ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE WALKING INTO
LEGAL PROBLEMS THAT ARE
AVOIDABLE. SO I GUESS I WOULD
JUST LIKE TO ASK THE AUTHOR. IS
THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU PERCEIVE
THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMMEDIATELY
END UP IN. LITIGATION ABOUT THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE SUN
WEATHER. OUT AND IT IS NOT A
PROBLEM THAT YOU THOUGHT.
THOUGHT WE THOUGHT DO IT IN AN
ANSWER RIGHT NOW IS YOU KNOW
IT'S VERY UNCLEAR BUT- I THINK
THE QUESTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN
ASKED WHEN WE PASSED AB. ONE
NINE FIVE WATCH LIVE HERE WHO
CLEARLY. MOVED IT TO ANOTHER
SECTION OF THE- OF THE LAW. SO
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY RED FLAGS
WITH THAT AND THAT TOOK. A MORE
OF A DRASTIC APPROACH. TO WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE SO- IT'S
STILL TO BE DEBATED BUT SO FAR
THERE'S BEEN NO RED FLAGS THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. OR WILL BE
CHALLENGED AGAIN I THINK WE
WOULD SIDE WITH. THE PASSAGE OF
ONE NINETY FIVE WASHER. OKAY
THANKS VERY MUCH. ON THE CENTER
THERE. THANK YOU. BY WHAT SO I'M
A LITTLE TORN- NOT USE. BE
CANNABIS- BECAUSE- BECAUSE FOR
ME IT YOU KNOW IT IS A PUBLIC
SAFETY ISSUE AND THINGS LIKE
THAT AND COMMUNITIES AND- BUT IS
THIS HAS EVOLVED. OVER THE LAST
FEW YEARS- SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE
IS REALLY CHANGED. AND ONE OF
THOSE LANDSCAPES IS THE ILLICIT
DRUG MARKET- NOT JUST FOR
CANNABIS BUT FOR A LOT OF OTHER
DRUGS. BUT AND THOSE DRUGS ARE
BEING USED TO LACE- WHAT WE
WOULD NORMALLY SEE AS- WHAT WE
THOUGHT WERE SAFE. SAFER DRUGS-
AT SUCH AS MARIJUANA- AND- AND
CANNABIS AND- SO- YOU KNOW FROM
A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. AT
IT IS. IT JUST ME IT'S EVEN
THOUGH YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH.
WITH THE- USE OF CANNABIS. IT IS
A LOT SAFER TO BUY IT FROM A
PLACE WHERE THEY- WE KNOW THAT
IT'S NOT LACED. WITH FENTANYL-
AND WE DON'T HAVE A GRIP ON THAT
ISSUE AT ALL. AND SO YOU KNOW
THAT PART OF ME IS REALLY- BAG
KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS IT. WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE LEGALLY AND
SAFELY IF YOU CAN CALL IT
ANYTHING SAFE. SAFELY
DISTRIBUTING THIS INSTEAD OF-
FORCING PEOPLE INTO AN ILLICIT
MARKET- THIS A TAXATION ISSUE
ALSO AND THESE ARE THESE ARE
EXORBITANT TAXES THAT ARE MEANT
TO BE COLLECTED AND THEN-
HOPEFULLY SPENT ON- WHAT MY
COLLEAGUE. FROM BEAVER WAS
TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS.
ENFORCEMENT OF. THE YOU KNOW SO
THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ILLEGAL
ILLICIT MARKET AND THAT WE SEEM
TO BE LOSING THAT BATTLE AND I'D
LIKE TO SEE IS WIN THAT BATTLE-
I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO
ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. SO YOU
KNOW I'M I'M KIND OF LEANING
TOWARD SUPPORT ON ON ON YOUR
BILL TODAY- IF I THINK OTHER
THINGS COME TO LIGHT LATER ON
ABOUT THE LEGALITIES OR WHATEVER
WHEN IT GETS TO THE FLOOR I WANT
TO RESERVE MY RIGHT TO CHANGE MY
VOTE- BUT- I'D LIKE TO SEE GET
OFF THE FLOOR- BECAUSE I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THAT. FULLER YOU
KNOW DOING WHAT THE LOS THEY CAN
DO. ARE ABLE TO DO THAT AND KEEP
OUR PEOPLE SAFE IS THE END OF
THE DAY THAT'S REALLY WHAT. WE
NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON THANK YOU
THANK YOU. SO- LET ME JUST SAY
RIGHT UP FRONT THAT I'M GONNA
SUPPORT YOUR BILL- I HAVE IN THE
PAST AND- FIVE IT WILL CONTINUE
TO DO IT- I AGREE WITH A LOT
THAT'S BEEN SAID APPEAR-
PROPOSITION SIXTY FOUR WAS. A
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO TRY TO.
PASS A MEASURE THAT THE PUBLIC
WOULD VOTE FOR. AND ANYTIME YOU
PASS A PROPOSITION YOU'RE STUCK
WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE
PROPOSITION RIGHT I MEAN THAT'S
THE WHOLE POINT IS IT IT'S TAKEN
OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE
LEGISLATURE. THIS PROPOSITION
INCLUDED A CLOSET SAID AS LONG
AS IT'S IN FURTHERANCE OF THE
GOAL OF THAT PROPOSITION- THE
BOTTOM LINE IS THERE THERE ARE
LOCAL TAX DOLLARS FOR
ENFORCEMENT. AND SO BUT THE
QUESTION IS. IS THERE THERE ARE
ALL THESE FUNDS THAT WERE SET UP
. AND ARE THOSE FUNDS
FUNCTIONING THE WAY THAT PEOPLE
THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA FUNCTION
OR DO WE NEED TO READJUST THE
PERCENTAGES THAT GO INTO THE
FUNDS- AND THAT WITH THAT SAYS
IS THAT WE NEED A NEW
PROPOSITION WE NEED IT CLEAN UP.
WHERE WE GO AND WE FIGURE OUT.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
LOCAL ENFORCEMENT. TO SHUT DOWN
SOME OF THESE- ILLICIT OPERATORS
AND I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO DO
THAT WATER DIVERSION BECAUSE IT
IT'S CRITICAL NUMBER OF
CALIFORNIA THEY'RE JUST
DESTROYING THE LANDSCAPE. AND
POLLUTING THE WATER SYSTEM AND
TAKING OUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF ACRE FEET. THAT THAT
COMMUNITIES NEED THAT DOWNSTREAM
COMMUNITIES RELY ON IT SO
ANYWAY- I WON'T BELABOR IT- THIS
ISN'T AN ISSUE THAT- VERY NEAR
AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I
WE GOT TO GET THIS RIGHT. AND
AND WE HAVE A WE HAVE SAID WE
WANT TO SUPPORT. THE
LEGALIZATION AND YET. AS MY GOOD
FRIEND FROM SAN FRANCISCO SAID
WE SET UP ALL THESE ROAD
ROADBLOCKS TO HAVING THAT HAPPEN
SO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
COMING- TWICE I THINK IT WAS TWO
TIMES. IN A ROW- AND- AND BEING
PERSISTENT I'M IN A I'M AN
EXPERT THE BILL BECAUSE I THINK
THAT- THAT IT'S THERE IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO IN BUT I
BUT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING
TO NEED TO GO OUT AND FIX. FIX
THE PIECES THAT AREN'T WORKING
ANYMORE AND- WITH THAT WE DO
HAVE A MOTION FROM. SENATOR
WIENER WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU-
YES THAT SENATOR GLAZERS ONE
FINAL COMMENTS YET LIKE THERE'S
THE VOTES TO FOR SO I APPRECIATE
THE DISCUSSION. OF THAT
COMMITTEE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A
VOTE SOME OF THE BILL OUT TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE AUTHOR
TO ASK FOR WHAT YOU CANCEL
OPINION. HOW MANY STAFF THE BILL
TODAY BUT HOPE THAT THAT CAN A
SWITCH ME SO I CAN GO UP ON THAT
ON THE FLOOR BUT I THINK THAT
WOULD BE A HEALTHY THING FOR US
TO DO. I SENATOR BOB PRESSURE
WITH THE ALLOW YOU TO THINK.
THANK YOU AND ONE OF. PUSH IT
TO. THE DEBATE DISCUSSION ON
THIS MATTER ROGER AND IT'S NO
ONE HE'S- HERE THAT'S MORE
CONCERNED WITH. MAKING SURE THAT
IT'S DONE RIGHT- I THINK MY-
RECORD. SINCE BEING IN THE
SENATE AS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT WE
ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT
THIS INDUSTRY IS JUST STOOD UP
CORRECTLY. FAIRLY LEGALLY. AND
BY CONTINUING TO ALLOW
EXORBITANT TAXES WERE ONLY
ENCOURAGING. THE LEGAL MARKET.
AND WE WANT THOSE TAXES TO COME
IN AND STAND UP THOSE. PUBLIC
SAFETY PROGRAMS AND ENFORCEMENT
PROGRAMS THAT DON'T EXIST RIGHT
NOW BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS NOT
COMING IN BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING
WHETHER YOU'RE A LEGAL GROWER OR
LEGAL DISPENSARY. YOU'RE NOT
PAYING TAXES. THERE'S NO MONEY
FOR THOSE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS
THAT WE TRULY KNOW OUR NEED IT
AND ALL I WANTED AND ALSO. WE
TALKED ABOUT SAFETY. THIS CASE
POPULATION IF YOU. HAVEN'T GONE
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TO LA
AND VISIT HER OPERATION IT'S
AMAZING. AND IT IS CLEAN IT'S
SAFE IT WILL GO TO A LIVE
OPERATOR. THEY DON'T CARE. YOU
SHOULD YOU WALKING YOU SMELL THE
PRODUCT YOU YOU SEE FOLKS USE
THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN THERE.
AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT
BUT SHE CANNOT SURVIVE AND LEGAL
OPERATORS CANNOT SURVIVE UNDER
THIS CURRENT. TAX STRUCTURE. AND
WE CONTINUE TO WANT TO CALL THIS
A DRUG. LET'S CHANGE THE
NARRATIVE IT'S A PLAN. IT'S A
PLANT THAT WAS HERE BEFORE ANY
OF US TO HEAR. AND THE ONLY
REASON IT WAS EVER MADE A LEGAL
WAS TO ARREST. PEOPLE THAT LOOK
LIKE ME BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE
IN THE THIRTIES THAT'S THE ONLY
REASON IT WAS EVER CLASSIFIED AS
A DRUG SO LET'S DO THAT TO THIS
REPORT. AND LET'S UNDERSTAND
THAT SEVEN. OF THE FIRST YEAR
AND PRESIDENT. BUT ONLY GREW IT
BUT CONSUMED IT AS WELL. IT
WASN'T A DRUG THAT SO THIS IS A
COMMON SENSE MEASURE TO ALLOW
THOSE LEGAL OPERATORS TO DO IT
RIGHT TO STAND UP THOSE. PUBLIC
SAFETY PROGRAMS THOSE IMPORTS
FROM PROGRAMS TO ERADICATE
ILLEGAL MARKET I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MOTION IS TO PASSED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CENTER COME IDEA DON'T I GOT I
YOU KNOW I SEE ARE TO. FIVE SIX
AYE BLAKE'S BEER. LAKE SUPERIOR
I'D- THE RUSSELL. GLAZER SKINNER
. WIENER WE I AM. FORTY ZERO. IT
WILL BE BETTER CALL. FOR THE
APPS MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU TO. WHO WITH FOR JUST
. WILL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ON
AGENDA WHICH IS S. C. H.
SENATORS SAY ARE TO.
CENTER THEY ARE TO THE FLOORS
YOURS. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY
THANK YOU TO AND COMMITTEE. FOR
HEARING BILL VERY VE AND TO ME.
BECAUSE IT IS THE REASON I AFTER
. GIVING UP A LOT OF MY
RETIREMENT DAYS- SO THAT I COULD
BE UP HERE TO HELP PEOPLE- WHAT
IS THAT CA FOR DO. THE RESTORES
THE VERY. PROVISIONS THE POPULAR
PROVISIONS OF PROP FIFTY EIGHT
AND ONE NINETY EIGHT RELATING TO
INTER GENERATIONAL TRANSFERS OF
PROPERTY AND HOW THEY ARE TAXED
. AFFECTS BOTH PRIMARY AND
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR
ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS
PROPERTIES. BUT MORE THAN THAT
WHAT IT DOES IT IS ALLOWS THE
PUBLIC. TO PUTS THIS ISSUE BACK
IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. AND
ALLOWS THEM. TO BE FOCUSED ON
THIS ISSUE ALONE. AND VOTE ON
THIS AGAIN. SO IN ORDER
UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT
WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A
HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. PROP
NINETEEN PASSED IN TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY. AND THERE ARE TWO PARTS
TO PROP NINETEEN. BUT THE BALLOT
TITLE WAS THE HOME PROTECTION
FOR SENIORS SEVERELY DISABLED.
FAMILIES AND VICTIMS OF WILDFIRE
OR NATIONAL OR NATURAL DISASTERS
ACT. AND WHO WOULDN'T VOTE FOR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOWEVER ONE
PART WAS VERY HELPFUL IN DOING
THAT. BUT THEN IN GENERATING
SUPPORT FOR THAT ANOTHER PART OF
IT GOT INTRODUCED. AND IT IS NOT
HELPFUL AT ALL AND IN FACT IT'S
DESTRUCTIVE FOR A LOT OF
COMMUNITIES A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE YOU
WOULDN'T EVEN EXPECT IT TO BE.
IT WAS THE PROVERBIAL TROJAN
HORSE. S. C. A. FOR DOES IS DEAL
WITH WHAT WHAT'S INSIDE. THE
HORSE THE SHINY EXTERIOR. THE
EVERYBODY SEES WHEN IT ROLLS IN
. I THINK THAT'S GREAT BUT IF
THEY DON'T SEE WHAT'S INSIDE.
THE ONLY FIND OUT LATER WHAT IT
IS AND WHAT IT WAS. BUT
DESTRUCTIVE TO THEM. SO WHY IS
IT NEED FOR ONE IT'S THE RIGHT
THING TO DO. WE DON'T USE THE
LEGISLATURE WE DON'T USE OUR
POLITICAL PROCESS TO FOOL
PEOPLE. WE SHOULDN'T BE. BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT IT HAPPENS. AND WHEN
IT HAPPENS WHEN WE MAKE POLICY
THAT'S BAD. IT'S UP TO US TO TRY
AND FIX IT BEFORE IT GETS WORSE
. WE KNOW THAT WE DEAL WITH
THESE THINGS ON A DAILY BASIS IN
A LOT OF OUR BILLS ARE MEANT. TO
STOP THE DESTRUCTION THAT WAS
BECAUSE MANY YEARS AGO. AND NOW
WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT
DESTRUCTION WELL THIS ART
OPPORTUNITY DID TAKE TO
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
RECOGNIZED. AS DESTRUCTIVE. TO
PEOPLE AT FIXING IT NOW. THE
BENEFITS SOUGHT. BY THE
PROPONENTS OF TAKING THIS VERY
IMPORTANT PROTECTION WAY FROM
TAXPAYERS NEVER MATERIALIZED ON
THE SCALE THAT THEY DREAMED IT
WOULD BE. BUT THE COST TO OUR
CITIZENS IS BEING FELT IN A BIG
WAY. PEOPLE HAVE SO LITTLE TRUST
IN OUR GOVERNMENT. AND WHAT
HAPPENED HERE THIS LITTLE
TRAVESTY IS THE REASON WHY. IT
IS NOT A TOOL. THAT WILL HELP
OUR HOUSING SUPPLY ISSUES. IT IS
NOT A TOOL THAT IS CREATING
SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES TO
PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. THE BOTTOM
LINE IS. MY HOUSE. THE HOUSE
THAT MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT. THAT
OUR CHILDREN GREW UP IN. THAT IS
OUR FAMILY'S HOUSE. WHEN MY KIDS
COME HOME THEY DON'T CALL UP AND
SAY HEY MOM AND DAD WERE COMING
TO YOUR HOUSE THEY SAY HEY MOM
AND DAD WERE COMING TO OUR
HOUSE. OR COMING HOME. AND JUST
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GRIEVE OVER
THE ONE OF US DYING OR WHEN THAT
SECOND ONE DIES. DOESN'T MEAN
THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP
THEIR HOUSE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
IS DOING TO PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU
TODAY TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR
THOUGHTFULLY. AND CAREFULLY
CONSIDERING THIS BILL. I LOOK
FORWARD TO ADDRESSING ANY OF THE
CONCERNS YOU HAVE BEEN WILLING
TO BE CONTINUED TO WORK ON SOME
OF THOSE CONCERNS. I BROUGHT A
COUPLE WITNESSES WITH ME TODAY.
JEFFREY PRANG WHO IS THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR. AND
VERONICA NELSON FROM THE
SACRAMENTO REALTORS ASSOCIATION
SHE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
ORGANIZATION. SO MR BRING I'M
I'M SORRY YES PLEASE COME FOR
GERMANY FIFTEENTH CONCLUDED WILL
ALLOW YOUR FIRST LEAD WITNESS.
GOOD MORNING- I'M SURE- I AM
JUST PRAYING ON THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY ASSESSOR I AM
REPRESENTING THE LARGEST
ASSESSMENT AGENCY IN UNITED
STATES I'M ALSO HERE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
ASSESSORS ASSOCIATION. SO S. C.
A. R. FOR- WHICH IS BEFORE YOU
SIX TO RECTIFY. THE MOST HARMFUL
ELEMENTS OF PROPOSITION NINETEEN
THAT HAVE IMPACTED COUNTLESS
FAMILIES ACROSS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND THEIR ABILITY TO
PASS DOWN THEIR PROPERTY. AND
THE INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH SO
THAT MANY FOR THAT SO MANY
FAMILIES RELY ON FOR FINANCIAL
AND ECONOMIC STABILITY- S. C.
FOUR WOULD ALLOW VOTERS TO
REINSTATE PROPOSITIONS FIFTY
EIGHT AND ONE NINETY THREE.
RESTORING THOSE LONG TIME
BENEFITS THAT WERE EVISCERATED
BY PROPOSITION NINETEEN THE
CONSTITUTIONAL EXCLUSION FROM
REASSESSMENT FOR ONE PROPERTY IS
TRANSFERRED BETWEEN PARENTS AND
CHILDREN OR GRANDPARENTS AND
GRANDCHILDREN. NINETEEN WAS THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO PUT
CALIFORNIA'S PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM
SINCE PROPOSITION THIRTEEN. IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT. IT
CONTAINED NUMEROUS GLARING
DEFICIENCIES CONTRADICTIONS AND
AMBIGUITIES ON FOOT ISSUES
FUNDAMENTAL TO ITS
IMPLEMENTATION. I WILL TELL YOU
CANDIDLY PROPOSITION NINETEEN
WAS ADMINISTRATIVE DUMPSTER.
FIRE AND STILL REMAINS THAT WAY.
ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS REMAIN ON
A AS LEGISLATION HAVE A SLOWING
COMING. IF I JUST WANT TO REMIND
THE AUDIENCE THAT THIS IS THE
SENATE HEARING AND SO WE'RE NOT
GOING TO BE CLAPPING IT'S NOT
IT. IT'S NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT
VENUE OR AN ATHLETIC EVENT SO
YOU MAY CONTINUE MISTER CRANE
THANK YOU VENTURE. IT IS
QUESTIONS OF ABOUT PROPERTY
REMAIN UNANSWERED AS LEGISLATIVE
SIX LEGISLATIVE SOLUTIONS HAVE
BEEN SLOW IN COMING. AS A RESULT
MANY HOMEOWNERS CONTINUE TO MAKE
VERY IMPORTANT AND OFTEN
IRREVERSIBLE FINANCIAL DECISIONS
IN A CLIMATE OF LEGISLATIVE AND
LEGAL UNCERTAINTY. THE LONGER WE
WAIT FOR CLARIFICATION THE
GREATER THE HARM AS AN EXAMPLE
HOMEOWNERS ON A WHERE THE- THE
TO RECEIVE THE LIMITED TAX
BREAKS AFFORDED UNDER PROP
NINETEEN. BY FILLING FILING THE
HOMES EXEMPTION. THEY MUST
REMAIN IN THE HOUSE FOREVER IF
THEY MOVE IT WILL GET HIT WITH A
FULL REASSESSMENT AT FULL MARKET
VALUE IN A IN THE ACCOMPANYING
TAX INCREASE. IT WILL BE A
PUBLIC SERVICE NIGHTMARE- AS
MORE MORE THESE INSTANCES OCCUR
NOT JUST FOR MY OFFICE BUT FOR
ALL ASSESSORS. AND FRANKLY FOR
YOUR OFFICE AS WELL AS PEOPLE OF
SIKA- ANSWERS TO THE THROUGH A-
COMPLEX SORT OF STAYING
FAMILIES. AFFECT MANY FAMILIES
ARE STILL UNAWARE OF THE
CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE REGARDING
INHERITANCE THAT HAS OCCURRED.
AT LEAST UNTIL A LOVED ONE HAS
PASSED INDEED I AM CONVINCED
THAT MOST VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY
WERE UNAWARE OF THE PROP
NINETEEN CHANGES TO FAMILY
INHERITANCE- BECAUSE WHEN THEY
DO BECOME AWARE OF IT THEY'RE
VERY ANGRY AND I AM CONVINCED
THAT PROPOSITION NINETEEN. NEVER
WOULD HAVE PASSED IF PEOPLE WERE
AWARE OF THE INHERITANCE OF
PROVISION. WHEN ASKED DIRECTLY
INTO CLICK CLEARLY CALIFORNIA
SIR CALIFORNIANS HAVE SAID THEY
DO NOT WANT THE TAX CODE TO
FORCE FAMILIES TO SELL
PROPERTIES THEY WORK HARD TO
ACQUIRE. THAT'S WHY PROPOSITION
FIFTY EIGHT PASSED. WITH 35% OF
THE VOTE AND- AFTER BEING PLACED
ON THE BALLOT BY A UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THE LEGISLATURE
STRUCTURE- OPPOSITION A NIGHT
ONE NINETY THREE EXTEND THE SAME
PROTECTIONS TO GRANDPARENTS AND
GRAND. GRAND CHILDREN. PROP
NINETEEN PASSED. THE FOLLOWING A
CAMP THAT EMPHASIZED BENEFITS
FOR SENIOR WHILE VICTIM. AND THE
DISABLED WELL. AVOID THEM FAIL
IN HERE TO ISSUE WHICH I BELIEVE
WAS MISLEADING AND DISINGENUOUS.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS
PROVISION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO
RESTORE PROP FIFTY EIGHT AND ONE
NINETY THREE. AND THE BENEFITS
THAT THEY OFFER TO FAMILIES.
OTHERWISE A SIGNIFICANT OVER
FAMILY BUSINESSES AND HOMES WILL
HAVE TO BE SOLD TO UNAFFORDABLE
TAX BILLS. AS YOU ARE WHERE
PROPERTY TAX ADMINISTRATION UP
IS EXTREMELY COMPLEX CONFUSING
AND TECHNICAL. TO EXPECT VOTERS
TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE
IMPLICATIONS OF A BALLOT MEASURE
SUCH AS PROP NINETEEN. DURING
CAMPAIGN THAT BARELY IF AT ALL
DISCLOSE THE IMPACT ON FAMILY
HERITAGE. IS NOT REASONABLE.
CALIFORNIA SHOULD BE GRANTED TO
OVER. BECAUSE OF THE MAYBE COULD
MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS- AND UP
UNTIL IT HURT IT'S- IMPORTANT I
WANT TO PUT A FINER POINT ON THE
NEGATIVE IMPACT OF PROPOSITION
NINETEEN ON FAMILY INHERITANCE.
COMES UP AS A PARTICULAR CONCERN
TO UNDER REPRESENTED
COMMUNITIES- THAT ARE VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT GENERATIONAL
WEALTH WHICH IS GREATLY
COMPROMISED BY THE DRASTIC
REDUCTION INHERITANCE BENEFITS.
IT'S A FAMILY PROPERTY HAS BEEN
IMPORTANT HISTORICAL FACTORS
HELPING RAISE FAMILIES FROM
POVERTY. AS ELECTED OFFICIAL
WITH THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBLE
BILL THE FOR IMPLEMENTING PROP
NINETEENTH AND HAVING PERSONALLY
HEARD FROM THOUSANDS OF PROPERTY
OWNERS. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH
YOU THE ADMINISTRATIVE
CHALLENGES AND THE OVERWHELMING
FEEDBACK. I HAVE RECEIVED I URGE
YOU TO SUPPORT US HERE FOR I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OF INTEREST YOUR YOUR
TESTIMONY HERE TODAY. THE NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE. MISS NELSON.
GOOD MORNING. MANY ICE. GOOD
MORNING I'M VERONICA NELSON
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT OF
SACRAMENTO REAL TESTS AND
REPRESENTING K. WRAPPED
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF BLACK
REAL ESTATE BROKERS ALONG WITH
OUR NEARLY SEVEN HUNDRED MEMBERS
ACROSS CALIFORNIA. OUR MODEL
DEMOCRACY IN HOUSING WE WERE
ESTABLISHED IN NINETEEN FORTY
SEVEN WHEN BLACK BROWN AND
PEOPLE OF COLOR COULD NOT BECOME
REALTORS OR OWN PROPERTY. WE
SUPPORT S. C. A. FOR BECAUSE THE
INTENT. IS TO REBUILD THE
DEVASTATING IMPACT OF PROP
NINETEEN WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT
IN OUR FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY AND
HOUSING. AND OUR INITIATIVE IN
BUILDING GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN
THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AS A REAL
ESTATE AGENT IN THE SACRAMENTO
REGION AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
I WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH MY
CLIENTS TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE THE
DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP. ALL MY
CLIENTS WANT. TO ALL MY CLIENTS
WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY FOR THEIR
CHILDREN AND THEY WORK HARD TO
BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT FOR
EVER HOME BUT THEY WILL LEAVE
FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND OUR
CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. S. C. A.
FOUR PROTECTS THE NEXT
GENERATION OF CALIFORNIA
FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES FROM
BEING TAXED OUT OF THEIR
PROPERTY WHEN A PARENT DIES. AT
THE AIRPORT PROTECTS FAMILY
BUSINESSES BUSINESSES THAT HAVE
BEEN BUILT WITH FAMILY SWEAT AND
TEARS OVER GENERATIONS WHICH ARE
THREATENED WITH UNAFFORDABLE
PROPERTY TAXES WHEN PARENTS
PASSED AWAY IN KIDS TAKEOVER. S.
C. A. FOR PRESERVE SUPPORTABLE
HOUSING WHEN APPARENT LANDLORD
DIED. CURRENTLY BUILDINGS ARE
REASSESSED ON TRANSFER
PROPERTIES UNDER RENT CONTROL
ARE SOLD TO HIGHER TAXES. AS CA
FOUR RESTORES CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS APPROVED BY THE
LEGISLATURE AND THEN PASSED BY
VOTERS WITH THE PASSAGE OF PROP
FIFTY EIGHT IN NINETEEN EIGHTY
SIX. ENABLING THE TRANSFER OF
CERTAIN LIMITED PROPERTY BETWEEN
PARENTS AND CHILDREN WHILE
KEEPING THE TAX BILL TO ST. ON A
PERSONAL NOTE MY GREAT GREAT
GRANDFATHER WAS A JANITOR AND
HAD A THIRD GRADE EDUCATION WAS
GIVEN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ACRES
OF LAND IN ABOUT THE NINETEEN
FORTIES IN LIEU OF HIS
COMPENSATION. THIS IS ANOTHER
STATE HOWEVER. MY GREAT GREAT
GRANDFATHER PUT IN WRITING THAT
THE LAND IS NEVER TO LEAVE THE
BLOODLINE. IT WILL GO FROM ONE
GENERATION TO THE NEXT. MY
FAMILY HAS MAINTAINED WORKS LIVE
PARTY. HAD WEDDINGS FUNERALS. ON
THIS LAND FOR SIX GENERATIONS
THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
POSSIBLE IF WE HAVE BEEN TAXED
AT HIGHER RATES ARE BEYOND OUR
FINANCIAL MEANS. ON BEHALF OF
THE SACRAMENTO REALTORS.
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF REAL
ESTATE BROKERS ARE PRESIDENT
FRANCIS YOUNG AND ARE NEARLY
SEVEN HUNDRED MEMBERS WOULD LIKE
TO THANK THE AUTHOR HAS CO
AUTHORS OR BRING IN THIS
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. THIS
LEGISLATION IS NEEDED SO WE CAN
RESTORE PROTECTION FOR TAXPAYERS
AND KEEP THE FAMILY HOME THE
FAMILY HOME. I URGE YOU TO JOIN
US AND VOTE YES ON S. C. A. FOR
TO REPEAL THE DEVASTATING IMPACT
OF PROP NINETEEN WHICH IS VERY
IMPORTANT IN OUR FIGHT FOR
DEMOCRACY AND HOUSING. AND OUR
INITIATIVE IN BUILDING
GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITIES THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY NOW IS THE TIME FOR
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
ADD ON AS A MEET TO COME FORWARD
TO THE MIKE TO. FORM A LINE IF
YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TESTIFY
AND AGAIN WHAT WE NEED YOU TO DO
IS TO SAY YOUR NAME. WHETHER
YOU'RE AFFILIATED WITH ANY GROUP
AND THEN WHETHER YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION- AND
WE'RE GOING TO GET EVERYBODY
THAT'S HERE AN OPPORTUNITY DID
YOU TO DO THAT BUT IT HAS TO BE
THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE IT.
EXPEDITIOUSLY SIR YOUR FIRST
DENNIS I'LL BE ON THE BEHALF OF
THE FAMILY BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA WE SUPPORT. THIS
MEASURE THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THE DALLAS QUITE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF S. ZERO FOUR THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JOHANNA
EL TOR FOR IN SUPPORT OF A CA
FORWARD DRIVING. HOUSING PRICES
UP AND FAMILIES OUT OF OUR
STATE. THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. JANE FANTAIL MULLIN IN
SUPPORT OF A CA FOR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH NOT RIGHT TO TAX
PEOPLE THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. DAVID PERRY I
RESIDE IN MY FAMILY HOME IN SAN
FRANCISCO I SUPPORT AS CA FOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NAME IS
RAYMOND QUAL AND THE FOUNDER OF
THE CHINESE FAMILY ALLIANCE AND
I BELIEVE MY VIEWS REPRESENTS.
THOUSANDS OF FIVE CHINESE FAMILY
VOTERS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT S. C. A FULL REPEAL
REMOTE DESKTOP THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. HI GOOD AFTERNOON- MY NAME
IS KENNETH YOUNG- MEMBER OF THE
SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF SAN
FRANCISCO. AND I SUPPORT WE
SUPPORT S. C. A. FOUR THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI MY NAME
A USING BOY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THIS IS. MY NAME SLOWLY
LAMB. I SUPPORT. I THANK YOU
HAVE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY
NAME'S STAYING AND I COMBINED
SOME A CISCO I SUPPORTER S. C.
A. FALL. THANK YOU THANK YOU
THANK YOU. AND MY NAME IS CHOI
PHONE FAX NUMBER MOTION FOR
CISCO. AND SUPPORTER YES YOU SEE
A FULL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY
NAME IS CUTS BELOW I AM FROM SAN
FRANCISCO I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS A USEFUL THING THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE MY NAME IS
LISA ST FROM SAN FRANCISCO I
STRONGLY SUPPORT S. C. A. FALL
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HI ADAM LANGLEY FROM SACRAMENTO
I'M STRONGLY SUPPORT S. C. A.
FULL THANK YOU THANK YOU. HELLO
MY NAME'S SIMON THE- SO A
SUPPLEMENTAL FIND SUPPORT S. C.
A. PAUL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI
MY NAME IS PLAYING THE YOUNG
THEM APPOINT MEMBER OF BUSINESS
AND HOUSING NETWORK WITH
THOUSANDS OF MOM AND POP
PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA MOSTLY IMMIGRANTS
WELL S. STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF
FIFTY FOUR THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME'S WINFUL FROM DECEMBER
SISKEL BEN I WOULD BE SEND A LOT
OF US SENIOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT
DRIVE OVER HERE AND- THE GIVE ME
THE WATER TO- LET YOU KNOW THAT
THEY SUPPORT S. C. EIGHTY FOUR
IT IS GOOD NOT TO FUND THE OWNER
ALSO FIGURE FOR THE TENANTS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PERFORM
SOME LOGICAL MY NAME IS SAM
MOSS. IS SUPPOSED TO. THANK YOU
. MY NAME IS BECKY G. FROM SOME
AND CISCO I'M AT HOME I'M NOT I
SUPPORT S. C. A. FOUR THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO MY
NAME IS SUZANNE L. CARLOS. YOU
SUPPORTIVE CA FOR I SUPPORT S.
C. A. FOR PLEASE HONOR MY
FATHER'S LEGACY THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. HI MY NAME'S
BRIGETTE TO MARLBORO I'M FROM
SARATOGA CALIFORNIA AND I
TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS BILL MAKE
SURE IT'S RADIO THERE IS A-
THANK YOU ACTIVE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING
I AM E. U. BRINDELL FROM PEOPLE
IN CALIFORNIA STRONGLY SUPPORT
S. C. A. FOR PLEASE THINK ABOUT
US THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. HELLO GEORGE TWO CAPLETS FOR
MILLBRAE CALIFORNIA CEMETERY
COUNTY ROUTE FORTY FIVE YOU'RE A
REAL ESTATE BROKER AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT S. C. A. FOUR
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS JOHN VERY EARLIER I
SUPPORT BECAUSE CA FOR. OKAY SIR
PROCEEDED. CHECK A QUICK SANTA
CLARA COUNTY PLEASE VOTE YES AS
CA FOR THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MY NAME IS CAROL IT TIA I LIVE
IN SAN LEANDRO I INHERITED MY
PARENTS' HOUSE UPON THEIR DEATH
IN OAKLAND SO I RENT THE
PROPERTY I KEEP THE PROPERTY
TAXES. WHAT IS NORMAL MUCH
TENANTS STAY AND STAY AND THEIR
MOST APPRECIATIVE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH YOU SUPPORT A C. FOR. THANK
YOU. HI MY NAME IS DIANA SLATER
I'M FROM CASTRO VALLEY AND ON
BEHALF OF MY- SMALL FAMILY
BUSINESS THAT SECOND GENERATION.
AND OUR FAMILY WE ASK THAT YOU
PLEASE SUPPORT S. C. A. FOR TO
CONTINUE SMALL BUSINESSES THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
JENNIFER KENNEDY I'M FROM
PASADENA LOS ANGELES COUNTY AND
THE PARENTS FOR LIBERTY PASADENA
AND AM THRILLED TO SUPPORT S. C.
A. FOUR THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. HI DENISE ANGULAR WITH
FREEDOM ANGELS IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THIS IS YOUR- HELLO TARA
THORTON ALSO FREEDOM ANGELS IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO
MIKE MAKERS FROM NEARBY MOUNTAIN
VIEW CALIFORNIA. IN A SMALL
MUSIC STORE YESTERDAY
PATRONIZING THIS AND I LEARN THE
OWNER IS PRAYING THAT HER EIGHTY
FIVE YEAR OLD LANDLORD DOESN'T
DIE. THANK YOU VERY MEASURES
KNOWS YOU THINK YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT. YES SIR. MADAM CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS DEVICE
WILL COME WITH THE CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SCOTT
COOPER WITH THE HOWARD JARVIS
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION AND ON
BEHALF OF TAMBAR NARROW SENSE OF
SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY POLITICS
ASSESSOR FRESNO COUNTY
DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATE DEPARTMENT
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER PROTECTION
COMMITTEE THE CENTRAL COAST
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION. CENTRAL
VALLEY BIZ FED CENTRAL VALLEY
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION A
COALITION OF LABOR LABOR
AGRICULTURE AND BUSINESS SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY COALITION SINCE
WILL TAXPAYERS CONTRA COSTA
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION GLENDORA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LIBERTARIAN
PARTY SANTA CLARA COUNTY.
MONTEREY COUNTY FARM BUREAU
ORANGE COUNTY TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION PLASTER COUNTY
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION PRO SMALL
BIZ CALIFORNIA SAN LUIS OBISPO
COUNTY FARM BUREAU SELLECK
SILICON VALLEY TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION SO ON ACCOUNT COUNTY
GOT A SIX ALONG THE COUNTY
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION. VENTURA
COUNTY TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION SAN
LUIS OBISPO COUNTY FARM BUREAU
WESTERN MANUFACTURED HOUSING
COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI
MY NAME IS GINA C. LOUIS QUENTIN
KOPP GIVES HIS APOLOGIES THAT HE
COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BUT THE
SAN FRANCISCO TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS S. C. A.
FOUR THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. SIR ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM
TWELVE HUNDRED THAT WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY. AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE
ON TO THE TESTIMONY IN
OPPOSITION IS OR ANYBODY THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION IN ROOM COFFEE UNDER
. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
SENATORS DOUG SUBER'S HERE TODAY
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO S. C.
A. FOR. THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS
REPRESENTS MORE THAN THIRTY FOUR
THOUSAND CAREER PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY
MEDICAL SERVICES PERSONNEL
STATEWIDE ACROSS A HUNDRED AND
EIGHTY LOCALS- AS YOU NO
PROPOSITION NINETEEN WAS
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA ON NOVEMBER THIRD
TWENTY TWENTY AND ENACTED
SEVERAL REFORMS TO CALIFORNIA'S
PROPERTY TAX LAW. CPF SUPPORTED
PROPOSITION NINETEEN AND WAS
PART OF THE- STAKEHOLDER IN THE
EXTENSIVE LEGISLATIVE DISCUSSION
AROUND THESE POLICIES OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS- I WANTED TO
I GUESS FOCUS ON TO PORTIONS OF
THE PROPERTY TAX POLICY- THAT
WAS ADOPTING A PROPOSITION
NINETEEN. FIRST PROPOSITION
NINETEEN EXPAND IT PROVISIONS TO
PROTECT HOMEOWNERS IN VULNERABLE
GROUPS SUCH AS SENIORS WILDFIRE
VICTIMS AND SEVERELY DISABLED BY
EXPANDING THE ABILITY FOR A
HOMEOWNER TO EXERCISE A BASE
YEAR VALUE TRANSFER FROM ONE
COUNTY TO ANOTHER. THIS WAS ALSO
BEFORE THE VOTERS IN PROPOSITION
FIVE IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
ADDITIONALLY PROPOSITION
NINETEEN INCLUDED PROVISIONS TO
REVISE THE PROPERTY TAX
REASSESSMENT REQUIREMENTS ON
INHERITED PROPERTIES THESE
IMPORTANT CHANGES ADDRESS HOW
PROPERTIES ARE TRANSFERRED
BETWEEN PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS
AND THEIR CHILDREN OR
GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE
REASSESSED. FOR REFORMING
INTERGENERATIONAL TRANSFER
POLICIES ARE SUBJECT TO
SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATIVE
DISCUSSION- AND WERE SUBJECT TO
A TWENTY SEVENTEEN L. A. REPORT
WHICH SUGGESTED THE LEGISLATURE
MAY WANT TO REVISIT THE
INHERITANCE EXCLUSION. PROPERTY
TAX REVENUE GENERATED UNDER
PROPOSITION NINETEEN GOES TO
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE
CRITICAL SERVICES THEY PROVIDE
INCLUDING FIRE AND OTHER PUBLIC
SAFETY SERVICES. THE L. A. O.
PERFORMED AN ANALYSIS ON
PROPOSITION NINETEEN AND FOUND
THAT SOME OF THE PROVISIONS OF
THE PROPOSITION DECREASE
PROPERTY TAX AND OTHERS INCREASE
THEM WHICH ON BALANCE IS LIKELY
TO CREATE CREATE. A NET POSITIVE
ON PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION
COLLECTION S. C. A. FOR SIX TO
REPEAL PORTIONS OF PROPOSITION
NINETEEN THAT RAISE REVENUE AND
WE BELIEVE WILL CREATE A NET
PROPERTY TAX LOSS FOR LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. ACCORDING TO A
RECENT BE A WE REPORT. TWENTY
TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWENTY TWO
PROPERTY TAX REVENUE INCREASED
4% STATEWIDE. IN CONTRIBUTED
BILLIONS TO SCHOOLS AND BILLIONS
TO COUNTY CITIES AND SPECIAL
DISTRICTS PROPERTY TAX REVENUE
WAS VITAL TO SUPPORT LOCAL
SERVICES INCLUDING FIREFIGHTING
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
PERSONNEL AND EDUCATION. FOR
THESE REASONS CPF AS OPPOSED TO
S. C. A FORMER SEXUALLY OR JUST
YOUR NOTEBOOK. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. TURN MEMBERS VANESSA
CHAVEZ WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS IN
OPPOSITION TO SCA FOR. ENACTED
IN TWENTY TWENTY BY THE VOTERS
PROPOSITION NINETEEN ALLOWS
WILDFIRE VICTIM SENIORS AND
SEVERELY DISABLED. INDIVIDUALS
TO TRANSFER THE TAX BASIS OF
THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE TO
REPLACEMENT DWELLING OF ANY
VALUE. ADDITIONALLY PROPOSITION
NINETEEN IMPLEMENTED ELLY ELLS
RECOMMENDATION TO REVISE A
PROPERTY TAX INHERITANCE
EXCLUSIONS IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
THE L. A. O. REPORTED ON THE
INTERGENERATIONAL EXCLUSION.
THIS REPORT MADE A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE
LEGISLATURE THAT THEY MAY WANT
TO RECONSIDER. REVISITING THE
INTERGENERATIONAL EXCLUSION AND
THE GOAL OF THE POLICY. THE
LEGISLATURE RESPONDED TO THE
RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THE
INTRODUCTION OF SCA THREE HILL
IN TWENTY NINETEEN. THIS MEASURE
WHICH LARGELY MIRRORED THE
PROVISIONS ENACTED IN
PROPOSITION NINETEEN REFLECTED
THE DIRECTION OF THE LEGISLATURE
IN TRYING TO ADDRESS TWO
QUESTIONS. ONE HOW THIS HOW
SHOULD THIS EXEMPTION BE APPLIED
INTO HOW TO BALANCE FAIRNESS TO
NEW AND EXISTING PROPERTY
OWNERS. THE ELLIE ANALYSIS
LAMENTED THAT THE
INTERGENERATIONAL EXCLUSION
RESTRICTED THE HOMES AVAILABLE
TO NEW PROPERTY OWNERS HIS
CALIFORNIA CONTINUES ITS TREND
TOWARDS A MORE DIVERSE GROUP OF
NEW HOMEOWNERS LIMITED HOUSING
INVENTORY RESTRICTS THE
OPPORTUNITIES. OF EMERGING
HOMEOWNERS OF LIVING IN CERTAIN
COMMUNITIES DUE TO THE HOUSING
OPTIONS AVAILABLE IN THEIR
REGION. ADDITIONALLY THE ALLEY-
DETAILED THAT ABSENT A CHANGE IN
THE LAW THE NUMBER OF INHERITED
PROPERTIES WAS LIKELY TO GROW.
FINDING THAT MANY INHERITED
HOMES WOULD BE CONVERTED FROM
PRIMARY RESIDENCES TO USES
INSTEAD TO OTHER USES INSTEAD OF
PUTTING THEM ON THE MARKET AND
MAKING THEM AVAILABLE. TO
FAMILIES WHO LIVE WITHIN THE
COMMUNITY THOSE HOMES ARE
LOCATED REPEALING THE
INTERGENERATIONAL EXCLUSION UP
BANDS CAREFULLY NEGOTIATED
LANGUAGE AND ELIMINATES THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A
PERMANENT FUNDING SOURCE. TO
WILDFIRE. PREVENTION EFFORTS FOR
THESE REASONS WE WERE STE
REQUEST YOUR ON I SEE THE YOU.
GOOD MORNING BRANDON- BRANDON UP
WITH CALIFORNIA TAX REFORM
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT YOU
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. PERFECT TIMING YES
HI JAMES MICHAEL POWELL WITH
ASHLEY CALIFORNIAN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM
TWELVE HUNDRED THAT WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. SINGMAN
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE- MODERATOR
IF YOU COULD QUEUE UP
INDIVIDUALS TO TESTIFY I WANT TO
REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WE'VE
GOT THIRTY MINUTES WE WERE ABLE
TO GET TO THE LAST ITEM IN
THIRTY MINUTES ON THE LINE. BUT
IT REALLY REQUIRES COOPERATION
MORE TIME YOU TAKE- THE MORE
TIME YOU TAKE THEM THEM THE TIME
YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM SOMEBODY
ELSE SO- ANYONE ON THE LINE ON
THE TELECONFERENCE LINE THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT. OR IN OPPOSITION YOUR
NAME YOUR AFFILIATION AND
WHETHER YOU'RE IN SUPPORT- YOUR
POST. THANK YOU PLEASE PRESS ONE
ZERO AT THIS TIME. SINGLE RIGHT
WAY TO A LINE FORTY NINE. HELLO
I'M TRYING MY UNITS CARLISLE DID
YOUNG I'M A PROPERTY OWNER IN A
REAL TRYING CALLING TO VOICE MY
SUPPORT. TO CAPT THE FCA FOR
AMENDMENT NOT FOR MYSELF THE SO
CALLED PRIVILEGED OCCASION
SEVENTY ONE YEAR OLD WITH NO
CHILDREN BUT I'M CALLING OUT
THE- SHORT BALLOT LANGUAGE. YES
OR NO PLEASE WHICH YOU'RE TAKING
YOUR TIME AWAY FROM SOMEBODY
ELSE WHO REALLY WANTS TO TESTIFY
TODAY SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR-
YOUR COMMENT IN SUPPORT. NEXT
PLEASE. BLACKLINE THREE. THREE
ZERO. THREE ZERO- MY NAME MY
NAME IS INIGO AROUND SEVEN
DORMER IN PACIFIC GROVE
CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN VERY
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU. LINE. THIRTY
NINE. MY NAME IS LI JAMES I'M IN
ORANGE COUNTY AND- VERY STRONG
SUPPORT OF STA FOR AND I WANT TO
ECHO THE L. A. COUNTY ASSESSOR'S
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WINDS YEAH MY NAME IS
LET ME ASK ENG I'M ACCOUNT
MEMBER DISTRICT OF LOS ALSO.
CANNOT A VOLUNTEER AT STANFORD
YOUR PROGRAM IS I. WANTED
SUPPORT SB EIGHT FOUR THANK YOU
. LINE EIGHTY TWO. HI MY NINE
THE NUMBER ONE TODAY I HAVE TO
CHECK. I AND STRONG OF A HE- THE
- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LINE
NINETY FIVE. BY MARIANNE WELL
THEIR DOG NINE FOUR FIVE AND SEE
H. FOR JUNE TO OUR FIFTH EIGHT
ONE NINETY THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NINE FIFTY THREE.
SACRAMENTO COUNTY AND I'M IN
STRONG. THANK YOU WELL DONE BY
EIGHTY SIX. HI MY NAME IS THE
LAKE HELLO MY NAME IS ELAINE
MCINTYRE CANNOT COMMERCIAL REAL
ESTATE BROKER LOS ANGELES I'M IN
STRONG SUPPORT AND SB FOUR THANK
YOU. THANK FOURTEEN. CYNTHIANA
TIPS THE HOMEOWNER GLENDALE
CALIFORNIA AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF
C. A. S. C. A. FOUR THANK YOU.
FIND. THIRTEEN GOOD MORNING MY
NAME IS ARGHA INSTITUTE I'M A
PARENT AND A RESIDENT OF
THOUSAND OAKS CALIFORNIA STRONG
SUPPORTER AT THE A FOUR THANK
YOU. ONE SEVENTY ONE. HI MY NAME
IS SUSIE GARCIA I'M FROM THE
NORTH COUNTY AND I AM STRONG
SUPPORT AT FTA FOR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ONE SIXTY THREE. WHAT
IT IS. THIS IS THE FAMILY SAN
JOSE AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF FTA
FOR THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ONE NINETY TWO. TWO TWENTY
ONE. TWENTY ONE. VOTED TO THIRTY
ONE. HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME.
YOU'RE IN THE KILTIE. THANK YOU
SERVICE MORE FROM LOS ANGELES
COUNTY AND- IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
IT YOU WILL THANK YOU. BY. FIFTY
ONE. THE RAIN BENSON I'M
REPRESENTING MY FAMILY LONGTIME
RESIDENTS OF SAN JOSE AND WE
FULLY SUPPORT S. B. A. FOUR
THANK YOU THANK YOU. FIND TWENTY
FIVE. THREE MEN TO BEAR A PARENT
HOMEOWNER IN PLASTER COUNTY AND
FOUND FOR. THANK YOU. FIND.
SIXTY EIGHT. HELLO MY NAME IS
CARLA AT ACCOLADE WOULD WORK
ASSEMBLY K. IN THE VERY STRONG
SUPPORT SB EIGHT FOUR. THANK YOU
. NINE ELEVEN. BOB S. CURIT
MANAGING BUT NEWPORT BEACH TRUST
ESTATES LAW FIRM SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF MYSELF AND HUNDREDS OF
CONCERNED CLIENTS- IN SUPPORT OF
S. C. A. FOUR THANK YOU. NINETY
TWO. MY NAME IS PAUL SCHECHTER
IN SANTA CLARA COUNTY AND I AM
DIRECTLY REPRESENT SEVEN HUNDRED
AND FIFTY THOUSAND VOTERS WHO
RECENTLY SIGNED BALLOT
INITIATIVE TO REPEAL PROP
NINETEEN WHICH IS NOW S. C. A.
FOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND.
FORTY EIGHT. FORTY EIGHT. FIND
TWENTY THREE. MY NAME'S MARTY
LAYOFFS AND I'M A SUPPORT FOR IT
SAY FOR AS IT WILL KEEP AN AREA
FAMILIES ANOTHER POP WITH
AFFORDABLE FOR RETIRED SENIOR
CITIZENS ON A FIXED INCOME KEEP
HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR SENIORS
VERY MUCH. ONE EIGHTY SIX. HI MY
NAME IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLAN
TO ACHIEVE FINAL SORT. OUR OF
THE MIND THOUGHT ACCOUNT
HOSPITAL THE FIRST CHURCHES AND
- I STRONG. SIXTY EIGHT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. LINE TWENTY. MY
NAME IS COLIN BRITAIN HELLO LEAD
LEADERS OUR NETWORK AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF FTA. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH I WANTED. TWO THE OLD NAME
I STRONGLY SUPPORT AS C. H. O.
THANK YOU FOR. LINE. THIRTY
EIGHT. THIRTY EIGHT. YES HI MY
NAME'S TROUBLE BAND FROM LOS
ANGELES WROTE REPRESENT MYSELF
AND MY FAMILY I'M IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF FTA FOR THANK YOU SO
MUCH THANK YOU. SIXTY ONE.
CORRECT BRITAIN WITH THE
TAXPAYER OF SOLANO. AND WE
SUPPORT S. C. A. FOR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. RIGHT. TO FIFTY SIX.
TWO FIFTY. BORDERLINE TO FORTY.
PHOTO OPEN. HELLO HERE IN
COMMITTEE PLEASE. THE PEOPLE
DOWN THE ROAD FROM LOS ANGELES
COUNTY ONE OF THE OLDEST
RECYCLERS BLACK OWNED COMPANIES
AND- I'M STRONG SUPPORT OF S. C.
A. FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIND
. TO FOURTEEN. TO FOURTEEN. SOME
LINE ONE SEVENTY THREE. YEAH
HELLO I MEAN FOR NOVEL AND ME
AND MY CHILDREN ALL LIVE IN
BUTTE COUNTY HOMES THAT ARE
IMPACTED AND STRONGLY SUPPORT AT
C. H. FOUR THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BY. ONE NINETY FOUR. HELLO
EARRING COMMITTEE VOTE. MY NAME
IS. THOSE ARE UP I GUESS THAT'S
ROGEL ART AND I'M A GENERATION
OFF FOREVER HOLD FROM EAGLE ROCK
CALIFORNIA AND I THREE MILLION
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB A FOR VOTE
THEY CAN'T THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU. SO MUCH OF YOU. IT
CAN TO DECIDE. ONE SEVENTY. ONE
TO LINE. THIRTY HELLO HELLO
HILLS ECONOMICAL MOTOR IN BALBOA
CALIFORNIA AND I'M IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE EIGHT FOUR THANK
YOU. FIND. SIXTY FIVE SIX FIVE.
HELLO MY NAME IS BEEN DEALT
CORRECT AND THE I BELIEVE THE
SALE OF INHERITED PROPERTY
SHOULD BE A CHOICE NOT FORCED I
AM STRONG SUPPORTER OF FCA FOR
THANK YOU. LINE ONE OF. SEVEN
HELLO MY NAME IS DEVIN CORRECT
RAIMES FROM POPPLIO CALIFORNIA
AND IN HONOR OF MY LATE MOTHER
WHO WOULD HOME I SHARED AND THEN
INHERITED. I AM IN STRONG. OF IT
SB EIGHT FOUR. THANK YOU. NINE
ONE FOURTEEN. MY NAME IS MORE
ABOUT DOSSIER ON BEHALF OF
ELEVEN SAN FRANCISCO AND ON
BEHALF OF MY FATHER WHO IS A
KOREAN WAR VETERAN AND MY LIVING
MOTHER AND MY SIBLINGS WHO LIVED
AND- THE THEIR HOMES. I AM IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF. SB FOUR THANK
YOU. ONE THIRD. NINE FOUR. ONE
NINE. THE BALL PARTY WILL IN
SUPPORT OF THE EIGHT FOUR. THANK
YOU VERY. THE FOURTEENTH. ONE
FOUR. I AM- JIM ROBINETTE I HAVE
A PROPERTY AND- SEAL BEACH I
SUPPORT THIS CA FOUR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LINE. ONE FORTY ONE.
YES MY NAME IS PATRICK RIPARIAN
AND I SUPPORT IT CA FOR. THANK
YOU. LINE ONE FIFTY ARE. VONN
MCGUIRE SMALL RENTAL PROPERTY
OWNER IN SAN FRANCISCO WITH RENT
CONTROLLED TENANTS IN STRONG
FAVOR OF SCA FOR. THANK YOU. ONE
NINETY TWO. HI MY NAME IS MONA A
MEMBER OF OUR AREA HOUSING
NETWORK. STRONG FOURTH QUARTER
TO BE A FOR. THANK YOU. WHAT
NINETY FOUR. MORNING THIS IS
WALTER NIERENBERG HOMEOWNER
ORANGE COUNTY I STRONGLY SUPPORT
STA FOUR THANK YOU THANK YOU.
TWO OH SIX. YEAH HI GOOD MORNING
MY NAME IS SANDERS I'M IN LIVING
IN BEAUTIFUL SAN JOSE I AM A
PARENTAL CARE GIVER LIVING IN
THE FAMILY HOME. I AM IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SCA FOR THANK YOU.
TWO TEN. MORE MY NAME IS MARISSA
. CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATE OF
REALTORS BROKERS AND I MEANT
TOTAL SUPPORT OF S. B. FOR.
THANK YOU TWO ELEVEN. RACHEL
RENDON. I LIVE AT HOME WITH MY
MOM AND I AM RECORDING FTA FOR
BECAUSE IT I CAN'T HEY I CAN'T
THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR NEXT
PLEASE. THREE THIRTEEN. WEBER
ARRESTS SO YOUR BELINDA CALL IN
. TWO NINETEEN. REALLY NUMBER
AND SUPPORT A CA FOR THANK YOU.
TWO TWENTY ONE- HELLO AND
WELCOME THE FUNDS WELL BEING A
WIDOW FOR FOOTBALL YEARS MY
CHILDREN WHAT CAN I DEPEND PHONE
VERY HARD THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
THE WORLD THAT THE PRESIDENT MY
TO THREE SMOKE. LIKE THIRTY
THREE. HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME WE
CAN HEAR YOU ARE INCOME HEART.
THANK YOU MY NAME IS JOE HELLO
CO FROM ALAMEDA COUNTY I'M NAKED
IMPACT BY- PROP MY- AFTER-
INHERITING ARE YOU SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION AT. I'M I'M IN
SUPPORT OF WITH HER CARE GIVER
FOURTEEN YOU VERY AND IMPACT YOU
. NINE TWO FORTY. MY FIVE ME WE
HEAR YOU. HI MY NAME IS EVAN I'M
RENT SEPARATE. I'M ALSO SINGLE
MY IN THE S. ARMY VETERAN I IN
STRONG FOR OF THE A FOR GOOD
THANK YOU MY VERY. TWO FORTY
ONE. MY NAME IS JAMES BUT SHALL
VICE OF THE COSTA TACK
ASSOCIATION AND WE SUPPORT S. A.
FOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TWO
SIXTEEN. CONSCRIPTS BOTTLE THOSE
HILLS EVER H. C. NOW MY PARENTS
ARE NINETY. FIVE BUCKS GONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TWO
FORTY. LINDA HARMISON PLEASANTON
CALIFORNIA. AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT S. C. A. FOR. TWO FORTY
SEVEN. C. L. A. COUNTY MEMBER
HOWARD JARVIS TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT
THAT CA FOUR THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. TWO FIFTY THREE. HI GOOD
MORNING MY NAME'S WILLIAM THANK
YOU GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS RUDY
MELENDEZ. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
TAXPAYER CALIFORNIA NATIVE.
PRESIDENT OBASANJO'S IN THE SAN
FERNANDO VALLEY. CALIFORNIA
DREAMS ALWAYS GOING TO OWN A
HOME ARE YOU IN OPPOSITION OR IF
YOU SUPPORT YOUR TAKING UP
SOMEONE ELSE'S TIME THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO
COMMENT TODAY. PLEASE LET ME
FINISH AND STOP IN FOR NO I'M
SORRY WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON
I'LL ASSUME YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.
NINE TO FIFTY NINE. ALL OF. THE
FIFTY NINE YEAR OLD AND- EARRING
COMMITTEE HELLO YOU ARE IN BY
MANY HUBERT LEE. MY NAME IS WHO
BURDEN AND I AM IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF S. C. A. FOR. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. BLIND TO SIXTY.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER HAMMONS
REPRESENTING MY FAMILY RESIDING
IN PLASTER AN ORANGE COUNTY'S
AND WE ALL STRONGLY SUPPORT S.
C. A. FOUR THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TWO SIXTY TWO. HI MY NAME IS
ROBERT LOW INCOME ON THE- BORDER
OF. YOU FOR. VERY GOOD THANK YOU
. TWO SIXTY FOUR. HI MY NAME IS
CHRISTINE HEALEY ARE YEAH AND
THE ARMOR OF GOD- FROM THE SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA WE REPRESENT
OURSELVES OUR FAMILIES OUR
FRIENDS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN
THE STATE LIKE NEW PEOPLE CANNOT
CALL AT THE TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE
A BUSY WORKING HARD TO PAY FOR
THE MORTGAGES. AND OTHER THANK
YOU VERY MUCH AWARE OF WHAT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMENTS TODAY. PLAINTIFFS
FIVE. I ENDEAVOR TO ROZIER I'M A
REALTOR IN YUBA CITY NINE IN
SUPPORT. VERY GOOD THANK YOU BYE
. NINE TWO SEVENTY EIGHT.
SINCLAIR FROM ST. IN FULL
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. BYE THANK.
TO EIGHTY NINE. SAN DIEGO COUNTY
I'M ADAMANTLY SUPPORT AT C. A.
FOUR. THANK YOU. THANK. TO
NINETY ONE. MY NAME IS JESSICA
GOVERNOR I AM THE CO FOUNDER OF
PERK ADVOCACY AND WE STRONG
SUPPORT S. C. EIGHT FOUR. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. BY TWO FIFTY
FIVE. HELLO MY NAME'S ANNETTE
NAMES AND L. A. COUNTY GLENDORA
CITY. CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN THE
FLORIDA AT THE AGE FOR. SIX
POINT. TWO NINETY THREE- THEIR
PARENTS MY NAME IS JERRY NARRON
FROM ORANGE COUNTY CALIFORNIA
AND I AND ALL MY NEIGHBORS
SUPPORT FTA FOR. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. BY. TWO NINETY FIVE.
NINETY FIVE. LEVINE TO LINE
THIRTY FOUR. STILL MY NAME IS
CAROLINE FROM SAN DIEGO COUNTY
LOS ANGELES COUNTY AT- HERE
CALLING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF MY
FAMILY MY FRIENDS AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE. I STRONGLY SUPPORT IN CA
OR IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH JEAN PAUL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. LINES. FIVE
THIRTY. EIGHTY FIVE. I DON'T
LIKE TO NINETY EIGHT. HI MY NAME
IS ALICE COMBOS AND I AM CALLING
ON BEHALF OF THE MEXICAN
AMERICAN FAMILY IN CARPINTERIA
WHO ACQUIRED PROPERTY UNDER
SEGREGATION AND REDLINING AND
EXPRESSING MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LINE. THREE OH TWO.
HELLEN CHEN HELLO I STRONGLY
SUPPORT. FOUR FOR THE PHONE YET
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LANE SIXTY SEVEN. YOUR MORNING
JENNIFER JOHNSON PLASTER COUNTY
AND STRONG SUPPORTER C. A. FOR.
THANK YOU THANK YOU. FIVE THIRTY
FIVE. WHAT HI MY NAME IS EILEEN
CARROLL. PUBLISHED IN YOUR
HOMEOWNERS IN AMADOR COUNTY AND
I STRONGLY SUPPORT S. C. A. FOR
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH LINES.
SEVENTY SEVEN ZERO. GOOD MORNING
TRICIA CRANE SHARE OF SANTA
MONICA CITY RECOGNIZE
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
NORTHEAST NEIGHBORS SPEAKING FOR
OUR BOARD AND OUR MEMBERS WHO
ARE RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS
ASKING YOU TO PLEASE THE COURT
S. C. A. FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH
I'M AN INTERRUPTER CLICK RIGHT
NOW AND ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THAT ARE THAT ARE. IN
OTHER COMMITTEES DOING BUSINESS
TO PLEASE GET HERE BECAUSE WE'RE
GOING TO BE FINISHING UP PRETTY
SOON AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THEY CAN VOTE WHEN WE TAKE OUR
VOTE- SO THE NEXT LINE AND- IF
YOU COULD MATTER MY READER.
CINEMAX MISALIGNED NUMBER EIGHT
SORRY. YEP I AM SORRY WRITTEN
CALLING ACROSS THE COUNTY AND.
AND STRONG WITH PART OF THE
AIRPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LINE REAL. THREE ZERO THREE.
BONTA LINE EIGHT. JUST A MOMENT
HERE. A LINE. NINE NINE NINE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GET IN LINE
NINETY NINE. HELLO MY NAME IS
RICHARD CALLAGHAN IN SAN DIEGO
CALIFORNIA I'M A PROPERTY OWNER
AND SUPPORT ABOUT C. A. FOR. IT
AT A FACTOR PROP NIGHT TAKE THIS
IT RAISES RANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. CURLING IN
FURTHERING Q. OKAY VERY GOOD-
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC TEST
MUCH I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY
FOR THAT- EITHER CALLED IN OR
WAS HERE TODAY IT'S IMPORTANT
TO. TO HAVE YOUR PARTICIPATION
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING
THAT- BILL BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
AND I'LL START WITH THEM. CENTER
BREAKS PAYER SURE. NUMBER OF
PAPERS. WELL THANK YOU TO THE
OTHER FOR BRING THIS FORWARD AND
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO
PARTICIPATED TODAY- ON THE PHONE
AND IN PERSON I AM GOING TO BE
SUPPORTING THIS BILL TODAY AND I
WOULD LIKE TO JUST- CHAIR Y. SO-
THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS I'VE
READ THIS VERY CLOSELY AND I
WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
CONSULTANT STAFF FOR HAVING.
ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH ME TO
REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE
DEPTHS OF THIS- I THINK THAT
FIRST OF ALL. IT'S IMPORTANT
NOTE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE
IS A VOTE TO GET KICK IT TO THE
VOTERS SO WE'RE SAYING THE
VOTERS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO
DECIDE ON THIS I THINK IT IS
TRUE THAT THE VOTERS WERE NOT
AWARE OF THIS PART OF. PROP
NINETEEN WHEN THEY WERE VOTING
ON IT SO OF THIS VOTE IS NOT FOR
US TO PASS ITS FRONT TO LET THE
VOTERS DECIDE WHICH I THINK IS
THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I ALSO
JUST NOTED NOTE THAT IN MY
DISTRICT ARE PROP NINETEEN DID
NOT PASS AND IT DID NOT PASS BY
A LOT SO IT SAID IT WAS NOT
ACTUALLY EVEN CLOSE- AND ALSO I
RECEIVED MORE THAN FIFTY CALLS
FROM MY DISTRICT RESIDENTS ABOUT
THIS BILL- TO MY SPORT. AND I
RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF CALLS IT'S
ALMOST LIKE A NON STOP CALL.
CALLING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE
OUTSIDE MY DISTRICT ALSO
CALLING. BOTH MY DISTRICT OFFICE
AND MIKE- CAPITOL OFFICE ABOUT
IT SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S GREAT
RESIDENTS ABOUT THE SPELL- I
THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT. THAT I THINK THERE
ARE CERTAIN SOCIETAL VALUES THAT
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND ONE OF
THEM IS FOR. TO SAVE. AND TO
INVEST AND TO HAVE THE SOCIAL
SAFETY NET OF THE FAMILY. B.
PRIMARY WHEN POSSIBLE. SO TO
HAVE- TO HAVE INTERGENERATIONAL
WEALTH BE BUILT AND BUSINESSES
BE STARTED AND PARENTS BEING
INTERESTED AND- STRUCTURING
THINGS THAT THEY CAN HAND IT
DOWN TO THEIR CHILDREN. OR HELP
THEIR CHILDREN COME UP AND
ACCESS OPPORTUNITY AND
PROSPERITY. AND IDEALLY THEIR
GRANDCHILDREN I SEE THAT THAT IS
A REALLY IMPORTANT VALUE. AND SO
WHEN WE SET UP THE TAX STRUCTURE
SO THAT. SO THAT PROPERTIES- AND
BUSINESSES BECOME UNAFFORDABLE
BECAUSE OF THE TAXATION WERE
BASICALLY INSTANT. INCENTIVIZING
IN SUBTLE WAYS. LIQUIDATING OR
NOT INVESTING BEFORE A CERTAIN
GENERATION DIES BUT I DON'T SEE
THAT AS BEING ARE YOU KNOW THE-
VALUE THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
PROMOTE. I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALLOW
FAMILIES TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY SO
IF SOMEBODY INHERITS IF OF
PARENTS DIE IN SOMEBODY
INHERITS. THEIR PARENTS HOME BUT
THEY'RE NOT LIVING IN THAT CITY
THEY CAN'T MOVE INTO IT WITHIN
ONE YEAR THEY'RE NOT THERE
THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO UPROOT THEIR
LIFE THAT WAY. HAVING THEM RENT
OUT THE HOME AND HAVE IT BE
SOMETHING THAT'S FLEXIBLE FOR
THEIR FAMILY WHERE- WE HAD
TESTIMONY ABOUT. A PROPERTY
THAT'S BEEN IN A FAMILY FOR
MULTIPLE GENERATIONS AND THEIR
FAMILY WEDDINGS AND FAMILY
EVENTS THERE AND I THINK THE
ABILITY TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY
WITHIN A FAMILY STRUCTURE ABOUT
HOW TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THAT
FAMILY. IS ALSO REALLY
IMPORTANT- AND I ALSO JUST WANT
TO MENTION SOME OF THE REASONS
THAT PROP NINETEEN PASSED I
THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME. IN
UNDERSTANDING THIS TOPIC REALLY
WELL IS THAT. FIRST OF ALL SO
FAR IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GENERATE
MORE REVENUE THAT WAS GOING TO
HELP. US FIGHT FIRES SO FAR THAT
THERE ACTUALLY IS NO ADDITIONAL
STATE REVENUE. AND IT SAYS HERE-
AT THE END OF THE COMMITTEE
CONSULTANT REPORT THAT. THAT-
THE DEAL HAVE STATED THAT LOCAL
PROPERTY TAX REVENUE WILL
INCREASE AS A RESULT OF PROP
NINETEEN. BUT SO WITH INCOME TAX
DEDUCTIONS FOR LOCAL PROPERTY
TAXES PAID. RESULTING IN NO
ADDITIONAL STATE REVENUE- SO YOU
KNOW ON THE ONE SIDE IT'S DO IT
ON THE OTHER SIDE IS DEDUCTED.
AND SO THAT RESULTS IN NO
ADDITIONAL REVENUES SO. THAT'S A
MAJOR PROBLEM IN IT THIS IS- THE
HEADLINE OF THIS PARAGRAPH IS
CALLED DRY WELL A DRY WELL
MEANING THERE'S NO. MORE WATER
TO GET OUT OF THE WELL. SO I
THINK THAT THERE WAS WAS SOME
OTHER TESTIMONY ABOUT. SOME
OTHER PART OF THIS THAT RESULTED
IN SOME ADDITIONAL ADD- PROPERTY
TAX REVENUE. BUT BUT TO THE
POINT OF THE REVENUE. THAT'S
GENERATED AS PART OF WHAT IT WAS
SOLD TO THE VOTERS WHICH WAS TO
HELP US FIGHT FIRES TO THAT PART
IS NOT. CURRENTLY ACTUALIZED
MAYBE IT WILL CHANGE BUT AT THE
MOMENT YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT THE
DATA SHOWING US. SO THE OTHER
THING I JUST WANT TO MENTION IS
THAT. WELL THIS- PROPERTY TAX
EXCLUSION APPLIES TO ITS SAYS
BETWEEN SIXTY THOUSAND AND
EIGHTY THOUSAND PROPERTIES STATE
WIDE- AND- THE IDEA WAS TO
UNLOCK THIS INVENTORY TO HAVE
MORE HOW HOMES THAT ARE ON THE
MARKET TO BE SOLD. AND I WHAT
SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BUT NOT
MENTIONED BUT IS SEEN IS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO ME. IS THAT WE ARE
UNLOCKING THE INVENTORY THROUGH
THE OTHER PARTS OF PROP NINETEEN
THAT WOULD NOT BE REPEALED.
BECAUSE WHAT PROP NINETEEN DOES
IS IT CREATES THESE NEW
CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE WHO CAN
TRANSFER PROPERTIES MORE EASILY
SO IT ALLOWS. TRANSFER
PROPERTIES MORE EASILY AND HAVE
A LOWER PROPERTY TAX THEY PAY
IT'S A HYBRID RATE BUT IT'S
LOWER PROPERTY TAX AND THEY
WOULD PAY A FAIR MARKET VALUE.
TO THE NEW CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE
ARE THE DISABLED TAXPAYERS
PEOPLE OVER AGE FIFTY FIVE
VICTIM'S A WILDFIRE OR OTHER
NATURAL DISASTERS. SO THOSE YOU
KNOW WHAT PROP NINETEEN DID IS
IT SAID THAT SOMEBODY WHO OWNS
THAT PROPERTY AND IS IN ONE OF
THESE CATEGORIES. CAN TRANSFER
TO AT ANY COUNTY IN THE STATE
AND CAN TRANSFER FOR PROPERTIES
THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. SO IF
THOSE CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE
BEFORE MIGHT AMANTIS
INCENTIVIZED TO MOVE BECAUSE OF
THEIR PROPERTY TAX THAT THEY
EVER LOWER PROPERTY TAX RATE NOW
THEY CAN HAVE THIS HYBRID LOWER
RATE. THAT RESULTS IN THEM BEING
ABLE TO BUY A PROPERTY THAT'S
WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS BUT NOT
PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON THE
MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTY PAY IT.
AT A RATE THAT'S LOWER THAN THAT
SO IT DOES UNLOCK HOUSING
INVENTORY. ALREADY AND THIS PART
IS NOT UP FOR REPEAL. SO I THINK
THAT THERE IS A THERE IS A VALUE
THAT'S HAPPENING THERE AND YOU
YOU JUST THINK ABOUT I THINK
ABOUT- ABOUT THE REALITY OF. OF
INCOME INEQUALITY IN OUR STATE
AND- FAMILIES THAT HAVE INVESTED
IN PROPERTIES AND WANT. AND WE
WANT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE.
OPPORTUNITIES AND- NOT HAVE ONLY
THE WEALTHY OWN PROPERTIES SO
WHEN A HOME IS ALREADY OVER
SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND BUSINESSES COST MORE THAN
THAT WHO. WHO IS ABLE TO AFFORD
TO BUY A HOUSE AND IT'S ALREADY
UNDER 20% OF OUR STATE. WHO
ACCORDING TO THEIR INCOME CAN
AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE. SO THERE
ARE. I DO BELIEVE THAT AND IT'S
NOT STATED IN THIS REPORT BUT I
DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE LARGE
NUMBERS. OF THESE PROPERTIES
THAT ARE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS
PEOPLE WHO ARE INHERITING A
PROPERTY AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY
THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO OWN A
HOME. AND SO IF THEY RENTED OUT
FOR A PERIOD OR THEY HAVE A
SIBLING TRANSFER WHERE THEY
FIGURE OUT THE FLEXIBILITY IN
THEIR FAMILY. I THINK THAT'S
OKAY AND IT ALLOWS YOU KNOW FOR
US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS.
MIDDLE CLASS THAT IS HAS THE
ACCESS INTO HOMEOWNERSHIP WHICH
IS THE GREATEST WEALTH BUILDER
THAT WE HAVE IN OUR STATE. SO
THANK YOU YOU KNOW THIS IS
OBVIOUSLY A VERY COMPLICATED
TOPIC I KNOW IT WAS A BROKERED
DEAL WHEN PROP NINETEEN ONE ON
THE BALLOT AND THERE WERE. THERE
ARE BENEFITS THEY CAME OUT OF
PROP NINETEEN AND THOSE ARE
BEING PRESERVED THIS IS SAYING
FOR OF A SMALL SECTION. CAN WE
DO WE WANT TO ASK THE VOTERS IF
THEY WANT TO RE EVALUATE WHETHER
THAT WAS THE DECISION THEY
WANTED TO MAKE AND DO THEY WANT
TO HAVE THIS IN OUR GERMAN
GENERATIONAL- PROPERTY TAX.
EXCLUSION APPLIED AGAIN AND I
THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO
ALLOW THE VOTERS TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION FOR THEMSELVES. SO WITH
THAT THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT
I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY
THANK YOU. THIS. SENATOR WIENER
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAN CHAIR
AND I WANT TO EVERYONE WHO. CAME
OUT TODAY I KNOW THIS IS A IT IS
A COMPLICATED ISSUE AND THERE'S
A LOT OF NEW ONES HERE. I WANTED
TO EXPLAIN WHY IT WILL NOT BE
SUPPORTING- THIS MEASURE TODAY-
I THINK LOOKING AT THE HISTORY
IS VERY IMPORTANT AS MY
COLLEAGUE- JUST ACKNOWLEDGE. ON
THE THIS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WAS
PUT ON THE BALLOT BY THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS AS BEST PROP FIVE IN
TWENTY EIGHTEEN. AYE OPPOSED
THAT AND THAT WAS A STRAIGHT UP.
ALLOWING STATEWIDE PEOPLE TO
TRANSFER THEIR BASIS AROUND THE
STATE TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES
WHETHER OR NOT. THE COUNTY THAT
WAS THE PERSON WAS MOVING TO ONE
OF THAT- AND I AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE POSE A AND THE VOTERS
OVERWHELMINGLY REJECTED. A PROP
FIVE- I THINK ABOUT 60% OF THE
VOTERS VOTED AGAINST IT. THE
REALTORS AND CAME BACK- AND
WORKED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE
FIREFIGHTERS AND OTHERS ON WHAT
BECAME PROP NINETEEN AND- THAT
WAS PLACED ON THE BALLOT.
THROUGH THIS LEGISLATURE AND I
VOTED FOR IT. AND I TOOK SOME
HEAT FOR VOTING FOR A BI PEOPLE
ARE SAYING. WHY ARE YOU
EXPANDING PROP THIRTEEN. IT WAS
AFTER PROP THIRTY AT THIS
FUNDING COLLAPSE- ETCETERA. WHY
ARE YOU SUPPORTING THE AND THE
REASON WAS. BECAUSE IT ALSO
ADDRESSES OTHER ISSUE NOT ONLY
DID IT ADDRESS THE REVENUE ISSUE
BY BALANCING IT AL LARGELY- WITH
THE WITH THE- ITEM THAT'S BEFORE
US TODAY- BUT IT ALSO- IT DEALT
WITH I WHAT I THINK IS- WAS-
UNFAIRNESS. WHEN YOU LIVE IN ONE
WE KNOW THAT WHAT PROP THIRTEEN
WAS SOLD TO THE VOTERS AS- KEEP
PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. IF YOU'RE
A PARENT OR GRANDPARENT OR
SOMEONE WHO WHO WHO IS NOT
WEALTHY OWNS A HOME IN YOU AND
YOU HAVE SPIKING. PROPERTY TAXES
THAT COULD DRIVE THE PERSON OUT
OF THEIR HOME. AND SO PROP
THIRTEEN CAP PROPERTY TAXES. FOR
THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT SOME
A LOT OF US. CAN GET BEHIND OF
COURSE PROPERTY ONE WAY BEYOND
KEEPING. LOW INCOME MIDDLE
INCOME HOMEOWNERS IN THEIR HOMES
THE BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING IN
SAN FRANCISCO. IT IS. A CAPS BY
PROPERTY. AND THE TRANSAMERICA
PYRAMID ALL THESE MEGA OFFICE
BUILDINGS AROUND THE STATE- WHAT
DISNEY. WHAT DISNEYLAND PROP
THIRTEEN PROTECT IT INCREDIBLY
UNFAIR. THEN WE HAVE SITUATIONS
WHERE SOMEONE AND HURTS
PROPERTY. I'M NOT LIVING IN IT
AND IT'S INCOME GENERATING
PROPERTY AND THAT CAN GO ON FOR
INFINITE NUMBER OF GENERATIONS
AND IT WILL BE PERMANENTLY
PROTECTED FROM THAT ORIGINAL THE
SYSTEM ARE HOW MANY GENERATIONS
AGO DOWN EVEN THOUGH NO. NO ONE
EVEN IF NO ONE IN THE FAMILY
EVER LIVE THERE AGAIN. AND IT'S
PURE INCOME PROPERTY. IF SOMEONE
ELSE IS CAUSING PURCHASES IN
INCOME PROPERTY THEY HAVE TO PAY
MARKET RATE. BUT THE PERSON WHO
INHERITS SAID I NEVER LIVED
THERE AND USES IT AS INCOME
PROPERTY. WE GET TO KEEP THAT-
ORIGINAL COULD BE MULTI
GENERATIONAL- CAPPED PROPERTY
TAX. BAT I DO NOT THINK THAT
THAT IS FAIR- AND I KNOW SOME
PEOPLE CRITICIZE ME FOR THAT AND
I ACCEPT THAT CRITICISM. BOB I
DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR OR
EQUITABLE I THINK IT ABSOLUTELY-
UNDERMINES THE FUNDING OF PUBLIC
SERVICES AGAIN IS NOT A
COINCIDENCE THAT. THAT
CALIFORNIA USED TO HAVE ONE OF
THE BETTER FUNDED PUBLIC
EDUCATION SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY
AND AFTER PROP THIRTEEN IT. IS
NO LONGER DID AND WE KNOW HOW
BAD IT GOT. UNTIL WE STARTED
PUTTING MORE GENERAL FUND MONEY
AND BUT IT'S STILL BAD- AND SO-
I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY I'M I'M
VERY SUPPORT OF A MAJOR PEOPLE
CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND
DON'T GET PUSHED OUT BECAUSE THE
PROPERTY TAXES ON THE HOME OR
LIVING IN. SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
EXPLODE I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT
POLICY- BUT WITH THIS IS GETTING
WELL BEYOND THAT- AND I DON'T
THINK IT'S UNFAIR- FOR PEOPLE
WHO. HOW PROPERTY THAT IS BEING
THAT IS INVESTMENT. TO PAY THE
SAME. PROPERTY TAXES OF SOMEONE
WHO BE PURCHASING AN INVESTMENT
PROPERTY- WOULD BE- WOULD BE
PAYING- SO AS A RESULT- I'M NOT
GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY.
SENATOR SKINNER HE COMMENTS.
OKAY CENTER DRIVE SO. ANY
COMMENTS. THIRD DOLLY. THERE IS
A MOTION BY SENATOR DOLLY TO
MOVE THE BILL. IF THEY'RE NO
MORE COMMENTS- I'M IN A- ALIGN
MYSELF WITH THE COMMENTS THAT
WERE MADE BY SENATOR WIENER- I'M
I AM NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL TODAY- SPECIFICALLY- I
MEAN I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR. WORKING
FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO PASS
DOWN- PROPERTY THAT VERY- THAT
MEANS A LOT TO THE FAMILY AND
THAT WERE EIGHT AND INVESTMENT A
MAJOR INVESTMENT HAS BEEN MADE.
BUT I'M ALSO- COGNISANT OF. THE
THE NEED TO. MAKE SURE THAT WE
DON'T AND DO THINGS THAT HAVE
BEEN NEGOTIATED VERY CAREFULLY-
AND- AND PUT ON THE ON THE ON
THE BALLOT BEFORE THE VOTERS- I
THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO SAY
THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY WERE
VOTING FOR- I DON'T I DON'T
SUBSCRIBE TO THAT- I THINK
PEOPLE ARE ARE VERY CAREFUL
ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND-
AND- GAY. MEN FOR THAT REASON-
AND THE FACT THAT- THAT THIS
THIS WAS A NEGOTIATION THAT
INVOLVED A WHOLE BUNCH OF. OF
STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE'RE VERY
INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT
OUR- THE SYSTEM WORKS WELL I'M
NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTING IT THERE
THERE MAY BE EIGHT AM. AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK SOME MORE ON
IT- I THINK YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR
HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE BUT
I JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S THERE
YET SO FOR THAT REASON I'M NOT
GOING TO BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY
BUT I'LL ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE
AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A BOAT. ALL
RIGHT WELL THANK. THERE YOU GO
THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR THE
ROBUST DISCUSSION- NO QUESTIONS
I GUESS. BUT- I'M A LITTLE
DISAPPOINTED I MEAN I CAN COUNT
. BUT I WANT TO THANK SENATOR
BLAKE'S HERE. BECAUSE YOU
BROUGHT UP A BUNCH OF POINTS
THAT NOW I DON'T HAVE TO DO
BRING UP. BUT I AM GOING TO
BRING UP A COUPLE OF POINTS- I
WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS DOES
NOT ELIMINATE PROP NINETEEN. IT
DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE PARTNER
PROP NINETEEN THAT WAS HELPFUL
TO PEOPLE TO THE SENIORS THE
SEVERELY DISABLED TO THE
WILDFIRE VICTIMS. THE PEOPLE WHO
LOST THEIR HOMES. AND MIND YOU
THIS WAS PUT OUT THERE ON THE
HEELS OF TWO OF THE WORST FIRE
SEASONS. THAT WE'VE EVER HAD WE
BURN DOWN ENTIRE COMMUNITIES.
AND SO PEOPLE WERE READY TO HELP
. THE PEOPLE THAT LOST THEIR
HOMES. AND BECAUSE OF THE TRAUMA
THAT THEY SUFFERED THERE MIGHT
NOT WANT TO GO AND LIVE BACK
ORDER REBUILD IN THOSE AREAS
AGAIN. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE
INTER COUNTY TRANSFER OF
PROPERTY AND THAT'S JUST THE
BASELINE IF THEY BUY A PROPERTY
THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THEY'RE
GOING TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN
PROPERTY TAXES BETWEEN WHAT THEY
TRANSFERRED OVER AND THE NEW.
ASSESSED VALUE OF THE NEW HOUSE
THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE MOVING
INTO. SO THERE'S NOT A BIG LOSS
. ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THIS
IS NOT ATTACKING THAT PART AT
ALL. WHAT THIS IS WHAT THIS. THE
MEASURE IS DOING. HIS ADDRESSING
THE ISSUE THAT I TALKED ABOUT
BEFORE. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
THIS WAS NEGOTIATED. WHAT WAS
THAT NEGOTIATED BETWEEN WHO ARE
THE STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE IT
CERTAINLY WASN'T NEGOTIATED.
BETWEEN THE HUNDREDS AND
THOUSANDS OF EMAILS AND PHONE
CALLS. AND THE PRESENCE. WHICH I
AM HUMBLED BY. OF ALL OF THESE
FOLKS THAT CAME IN HERE TO SPEAK
OUT FOR THIS. SO WHO WAS IN
NEGOTIATED FOR. IT WAS
NEGOTIATED BY THE GROUP TO SEND
YOU THE FOR THE FLAG THE BIG
FLYERS THE GLOSSY FLIERS. THAT
SAY. HEY THIS IS GOING TO HELP
THE SENIORS AND THOSE POOR
WILDFIRE VICTIMS AND ALL THOSE
OTHER FOLKS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT
THEY LEFT OUT THEY LEFT OUT THIS
PART. AND THAT THOSE WITH THOSE
STAKEHOLDERS DID NOT INCLUDE THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING AFFECTED BY
THIS TODAY. SO PROP THIRTEEN WE
BROUGHT THAT UP THAT WAS BROUGHT
UP HERE HOW UNFAIR- DOESN'T GET
YOU KNOW WHAT PROP THIRTEEN
INCREASES 2% EVERY YEAR WHEN
YOUR YOUR PROPERTY VALUES GO UP
. SO IF YOU ADD THAT UP OVER
THIRTY YEARS THAT'S THAT'S A LOT
OF INCREASE THE PROPERTY I MOVED
INTO THIRTY YEARS AGO MY
PROPERTY TAXES TODAY ARE NEARLY
DOUBLE WHAT THEY WERE THEN. BUT
DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE INCREASE
IN TAXES. IT PAINS ME. WHEN
ASSOCIATIONS THAT I BELONG TO.
COME IN THE FIGHT AGAINST
SOMETHING. THAT I KNOW PEOPLE
LIKE ME. HAS ARE AGAINST. IF I
WENT OUT NOW SO MY FIREFIGHTER
FRIENDS WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT
THIS THERE ARE A 100% BEHIND
THIS IF I GO ASK MY REAL ESTATE
FRIENDS OF THEIR BEHIND THIS YOU
HEARD SOME OF THEM. THEY CALL
DAN. THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE NOT
IN FAVOR OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH
PROP NINETEEN. SO THAT'S ANOTHER
THING THAT WE REALLY NEED. TO
KEEP IN MIND. WHEN WE'RE VOTING
SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOWN WHO
WERE WHAT STAKEHOLDERS ARE WE
ACTUALLY REPRESENTING WE ARE
REPRESENTING. ORGANIZATIONS THAT
GOT TO PARTICIPATE AND WE'RE
LEAVING OUT OUR CITIZENS. THE
ONES THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME
UP HERE TRYING TO PROTECT.
TRYING TO UNDO THE DAMAGE THAT
WE DID TO THEM BEFORE. BUT
INSTEAD. WE GO THE OTHER WAY.
COLLEAGUES ALL I WAS ASKING
TODAY. WAS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO
FURTHER THIS CONVERSATION AND
EVENTUALLY GET THIS TO THE
TAXPAYERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT
. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT THE
HARD WAY. IF WE DON'T DO IT
THEY'LL DO IT THE HARD WAY. AND
THAT IS THEY'LL GO DO THE
REFERENDUM YES THERE ARE THE
REST FOR REFERENDUM FAILED.
BECAUSE THEY WERE FORCED TO GO
DO IT IN THE MIDST OF WHAT KOVIN
RIGHT. THERE'S NOBODY TO GO
KNOCK ON DOORS THERE'S NOBODY
ANSWERING THEIR DOORS THERE'S
NOBODY AT THE MARKETS. SO HOW DO
YOU GET THE SIGNATURES YOU NEED
FOR THAT. WELL THEY'LL PROBABLY
GO AND DO THAT THE HARD WAY. BUT
WE'RE THE ONES WHO PUT THIS ON
THE BALLOT AND SNUCK THIS PART
IN. ON BEHALF OF ALL THE
NEGOTIATIONS AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS. WE SHOULD BE THE
ONES THAT ALLOW THEM. THE
OPPORTUNITY. TO UNDO THIS DAMAGE
. BECAUSE IT'S DOING A LOT OF
DAMAGE AND IT'S GOING TO
CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND MY LAST
POINT IS THIS. IF YOU THINK THIS
IS ATTACKING WEALTHY PEOPLE IT
IS NOT. WEALTHY PEOPLE HAVE
WEALTHY ATTORNEYS- ARE ABLE TO
DO THE TAX AVOIDANCE STRATEGIES
NECESSARY. SO THAT THIS DOESN'T
HAPPEN TO SO THAT SO THAT THEY
DON'T HAVE TO DO THEY DON'T HAVE
TO BE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS. AND
IF WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO MAKE
LAWS THAT HURT THEM MORE THEY
JUST PICK UP AND LEAVE BECAUSE
THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
THAT. INSTEAD WHO IS IT HURTING
THIS IS HURTING THE PEOPLE THERE
ARE CLAMORING TO JUST BE PART OF
THE MIDDLE CLASS. THE PEOPLE
WHOSE GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS
SCRATCHED OUT ENOUGH MONEY. TO
BE ABLE TO BUY A HOME WHAT BY
ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND
THEN BECAUSE IT'S IN CALIFORNIA
. RICE'S IN CALIFORNIA PRICES IN
SAN FRANCISCO WAY HIGHER. THAN
ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE LAND. SO
GUESS WHAT THEIR PROPERTY TAX
ARE GONNA BE WAY HIGHER THAN
EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE LAND.
THIS MODERATES AT PROP THIRTEEN
MODERATED IT THIS IS THIS. THIS
S. C. A. FOR WOULD REINSTATE
PROP FIFTY EIGHT. BASICALLY
THOSE PROTECTIONS. AB ONE NINETY
EIGHT THOSE PROTECTIONS ALL THEY
DID WAS MODERATE. WHAT WOULD BE
A TREMENDOUS SOURCE OF INCOME.
FOR PAR OR REVENUE. FOR ALL
THESE AGENCIES AND OUR AGENCIES
AREN'T SUFFERING A HUNDRED EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS IT'S NOT PROP
NINETY EIGHT IS PUTTING INTO THE
SCHOOL SYSTEM AGAIN. THIS YEAR.
FIVE HUNDRED EIGHT BILLION. IN
TWENTY THREE THOUSAND. DOLLARS
PER STUDENT. THAT'S MORE THAN
ANYBODY NOW. YEAH WE WERE KIND
OF LAGGING BEHIND FOR WE SHOULD
HAVE MADE THOSE INVESTMENTS BUT
WE DIDN'T AND WE CHOSE NOT TO.
BECAUSE WE TAKE MONEY THAT WE
MAKE THE TAX MONEY WE ALREADY
GENERATE. AND WE DON'T
PRIORITIZE THAT STUFF WE GO TO
THE CITIZENS AND TELL THEM HEY
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS BETTER
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO. DO MORE
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MORE
TAXES. SO YOU KNOW WITH THAT
WHEN A CLOSE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE ON THIS I'D
LIKE THIS IS THE CONTINUE I'D
LIKE THIS CONVERSATION TO
CONTINUE THE NEXT COMMITTEE. SO
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TRY AND
HELP PEOPLE. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH I
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE I KNOW
IS A LONG HEARING. AND AND I
ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE
PEOPLE CALLED IN. AND AND DROVE
LONG DISTANCES FROM SAN
FRANCISCO OF ALL PLACES. TO TO
COME OUT HERE AND VOICE YOUR
OPINION TO SUPPORT IS JUST
MEASURE. MEMBERS AYE ASTOR AYE
BOASTING THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
THERE IS A MOTION- AND SO WILL
TAKE THE ROLE PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MOTION IS TO BE ADOPTED BY
FIRST BE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
SENATORS COVER YOU DON'T KNOW
ABOUT YOU I DON'T KNOW IF THEY
ARE TO. HI THERE TO ALL RIGHT
BREAKS BEER. THANKS I DAHLE.
DALI I DID US. BRASS KNOW GLAZER
. SKINNER YEAH SKINNER. WIENER
WINNER AT NO. THREE TO FOUR. WE
BELIEVE THAT- OPEN FOR THE
MISSING MEMBERS. SO WILL LEAVE-
WAIT FOR SENATOR GLAZERS TO
RETURN. OR WILL CHECK IN WITH
THEM TO SEE WHAT HE'S GOING TO
DO AND THEN WE WILL BE CONCLUDED
WE WILL CONCLUDE I WANT TO THANK
THAT. THE MODERATOR FOR ALL YOUR
HELP HERE TODAY APPRECIATE YOUR-
YOUR SERVICE. WHAT. MY PLEASURE
.
WELL WHILE WE'RE WAITING WE WILL
LIFT THE VOTE ON- FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE. WHICH IS SB. FIVE
TWELVE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MOTION IS THE PATH TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATORS DOLLY DRESSEL THE REST
SO I GLAZER SKINNER. BYE SKINNER
I. SIX ZERO THE BILL IS OUT SIX
ZERO.
JOURNALIST THE- ISSUE FOR HE'S
NOT COMING BACK HE'S NOT COMING
BACK OKAY. SO THE INFORMATION
THAT I RECEIVED IS THAT- THAT
THAT SENATOR DOBSON CENTER IS
NOT COMING BACK SO WE WILL CLOSE
THE ROLE ON FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO
S. C. A. FOR THREE TO FOUR. AND
THE- THE MEASURE FAILS THREE
FIVE THREE KNOWS FOR- AND-
WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL- ALLOW
RECONSIDERATION. THAT CONCLUDES
THE HEARING TODAY OF THE- SENATE
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
PROVIDE MORE TESTIMONY TO THE
COMMITTEE IN REGARDS TO EITHER
THE TWO BILLS TODAY PLEASE
CONTACT THE COMMITTEE THROUGH
THE WEB AND YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR
YOUR- YOUR YOUR CONCERN OR YOUR
TESTIMONY IN WRITING IN AND IT
WILL BE- BE REFLECTED. AS PART
OF OUR OUR HEARING TODAY SO
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH THE
COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED.