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EIGHT NINE THREE ZERO WE ARE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND-
STREET BUILDING I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE BE
PRESENT SO WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR
QUORUM AND BEGIN OUR HEARING
TODAY WILL ACTUALLY START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE AS WE ARE WAITING
FOR OTHER MEMBERS- I ALSO DO
WANT AN OUNCE THAT- I WILL ALSO
BE PRESENTING. A COUPLE OF BILLS
TODAY SO I WILL BE STEPPING OUT
OF THIS AND HAVING ANOTHER
MEMBER CHAIRED THE MEETING- SO
WE HAVE TWENTY SEVEN BILLS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA ATOR ON CONSENT
AND BEFORE WE HEAR- YES WE
DON'T- I GUESS OUR FIRST BILL
WILL BE. PRESENTED BY SENATOR
PORTANTINO SENATOR PORTANTINO-
YOU WILL BE PRESENTING SB FIVE
NINE SIX YOU HAVE THE FLOOR
THANK YOU- MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS THAT I AM PRESENTING SB
FIVE NINETY SIX WHICH WOULD
EXPAND CURRENT TEACHER
PROTECTIONS TO MAKE IT A
MISDEMEANOR TO THREATEN OR
HARASS A SCHOOL EMPLOYEE. FOR
REASONS RELATED TO THE COURSE OF
THEIR DUTIES AND THAT'S
IMPORTANT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLYING WITH
STATE LAW. DURING THE REGULAR
COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES BEING
HARASSED AND INTIMIDATED AND
THREATENED AFTER SCHOOL TIME AS
IN THEIR PRIVATE LIVES AND
THAT'S KEY WHEN YOU'RE ON CAMPUS
THERE'S PROTECTIONS WHEN YOU'RE
OFF CAMPUS YOU SHOULD NOT BE
HARASSED INTIMIDATED. AND
THREATENED FOR DOING YOUR JOB
AND IN THIS CASE WE HAD A LOCAL
TEACHER. WHO IS TEACHING. ABOUT
INCLUSION IN L. G. B. T. HISTORY
IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW WHO
WAS HARASSED AND THREATENED
AFTER. SCHOOL HOURS AND SO A
LOCAL TEACHERS CAME TO ME AND
SAID PLEASE HELP AND THAT'S WHY
WE'RE HERE AND IF YOU THINK.
THESE ISSUES AREN'T GERMANE TO
CALIFORNIA JUST LAST WEEK AT A
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IN MY
DISTRICT SOMEBODY WAS HOLDING UP
A SIGN. WITH A SWASTIKA. IN
SUPPORT OF THIS TYPE OF
HARASSMENT AGAINST TEACHERS AND
SO- I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NAY
BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS
WHO I BELIEVE WHO WILL BE
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT HOPEFULLY
THE OF MADE IT. AND SOME FOLKS
ONLINE WHO WERE DOING THEIR DUTY
AS TEACHERS WHO WANT TO CUT
WEIGHED IN WITH THEIR ME TOO
TESTIMONY SO WHAT APPROPRIATE
WITH RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU- DO WE HAVE A
LEAD WITNESS HERE. I THINK SHE'S
IN LINE OUTSIDE. BUT WILL GO
FORWARD OKAY- DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER LEAD WITNESSES ANY LEAD
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT- SENATOR I
APOLOGIZE I WORK WILL HAVE TO
LEAD OPPOSITION SPEAK IN THAT
OKAY MCCORD. YOU WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES AND YOU WILL BE TIMED IF
YOU CAN COME APPROACH THIS-
WITHOUT RIGHT UNDER THE MIKE.
THIS. ONE SECOND WE ARE GOING
TO. OUT ROLE- IT TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. SENATOR BOB. HERE
TOWBOAT RADFORD YOU'RE RIGHT FOR
HERE SKINNER. HERE SKINNER HERE
WIENER. THANK YOU YOU MAY BEGIN.
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS ALLEY SNYDER I'M A MOTHER. IF
SB FIVE NINE SIX PASSES IT WILL
CODIFY A VIOLATION OF OUR RIGHTS
ALREADY IN PRACTICE IN SOME
DISTRICTS. LAST THURSDAY I
DIRECTED COMMENTS TO A TRUSTEE
DURING OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
COMMENTS WHICH COULD SEE ME FIND
AN IMPRISONED UNDER THIS AND
JUST BILL THIS IS WHAT I SAID
VERBATIM TRUSTEE MENU VOWED TO
UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTION WHEN YOU
WERE SWORN INTO OFFICE. TWO
WEEKS AGO IN THESE CHAMBERS YOU
VIOLATED YOUR OATH WITH A
DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO SUPPRESS
DEMOCRATIC SPEECH I QUOTE YOU WE
WILL NOT STAND FOR ANYONE NOT
SUPPORTING A CHANCE CHILDREN NOT
SUPPORTING OUR LGBTQ COMMUNITY
AND IT IS NOT A RIGHT IF YOU
HAVE AN ISSUE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL
KEEP IT TO YOURSELF AND YOUR
FAMILY AND QUOTE. MS MOON IS NOT
YOUR RIGHT TO SILENCE PARENTS IT
IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO IMPOSE YOUR
IDEOLOGY ON THE FAMILIES IN THIS
DISTRICT YOUR TIME FOR THE
VIOLATION OF OUR FIRST AMENDMENT
FURTHER YOUR HYPOCRISY IS
STAGGERING YOU SAY WE MUST KEEP
OUR CONCERNS TO OURSELVES AND
OUR FAMILIES WHILE YOU SUPPORT
AN ORGANIZATION THAT ENCOURAGES
CHILDREN. TO KEEP SECRETS FROM
THEIR FAMILIES AN ORGANIZATION
THAT SAYS PARENTS WHO DON'T
SHARE YOUR BELIEFS ARE A DANGER
TO THEIR CHILDREN AND AN
ORGANIZATION THAT TELLS KIDS
THEIR BODIES MIGHT BE WRONG AND
SHOULD BE MEDICAL IZED IF THEY
DON'T FIT. OUTDATED STEREO
TYPES. YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF
US IS DISHONEST AND
IRRESPONSIBLE NONE OF US SUPPORT
HATRED OR EXCLUSION OF ANY
CHILD. WE ARE ANTI CHILD
STERILIZATION ANTI CHILD
MUTILATION WE ARE ANTI
HOMOPHOBIA. ANYONE LABELING
THOSE POSITIONS AS HATEFUL NEEDS
TO TAKE A LONG LOOK IN THE
MIRROR TRUSTEE MOON. YOU ARE
DISTRICT AN APOLOGY IF YOU
CANNOT UP HOLD YOUR OATH OF
OFFICE YOU SHOULD BE RECALLED
THANK YOU. SENATORS I HAVE NO
DOUBT OUR TRUSTY FOUND MY
COMMENTS AND KNOWING AND
EMOTIONALLY DISTRESSING. THAT
DOES NOT JUSTIFY FILING MY RIGHT
VIOLATING MY RIGHT TO SAY THEM.
I OPPOSE SB. FIVE NINE SIX.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU I NEXT
SPEAKER YOU HAVE MINUTES AS WELL
. I AM ERIN FOR. THE CO LEAD OF
OUR DUTY SB FIVE NINE SIX IS
DESIGNED TO JUST. CHILL SPEECH.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS THE
CORNERSTONE OF OUR CONSTITUTION
WORDS AND EMAILS ARE NOT
VIOLENCE THE DEFINITION OF
HARASSMENT IN THIS BILL IS
ABSURD. IT INCLUDES A COURSE OF
CONDUCT THAT SERIOUSLY ALARMS
WERE IN NOISE A PERSON AND WHICH
WOULD CAUSE A REASONABLE PERSON
TO SUFFER SUBSTANTIAL EMOTIONAL
DISTRESS. I AM ANNOYED THAT I
HAVE TO KEEP DRIVING FOR HOURS
TO PROTECT AGAINST THE EROSION
OF OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. I
AM IN NO WAY THAT SCHOOLS ARE
PROMOTING DR SHOWS WHERE TWELVE
YEAR OLDS ARE THE DANCERS. I AM
ANNOYED THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS
TRYING TO STIFLE DISCORD BETWEEN
SCHOOLS AND PARENTS. TO SCARE
THEM INTO SILENCE WITH THREATS
OF MONETARY DAMAGE AND UP TO ONE
YEAR IN JAIL FOR AND NOREEN OR
ALARMING A TEACHER. I AM
SERIOUSLY ALARMED THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE WANTS SCHOOLS TO
KEEP SECRETS FROM PARENTS ABOUT
THEIR CHILDREN. I AM ALARMED AND
HAVE SUFFERED SUBSTANTIAL
EMOTIONAL DISTRESS KNOWING THAT
THIS LEGISLATURE IS PASSING AB
SIX SIX FIVE THAT PERMITS SCHOOL
COUNSELORS TO TAKE AWAY CHILDREN
AGE TWELVE AND OLDER AND PLACE
THEM IN RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES
WITHOUT ANY CLAIM OF ABUSE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER SKINNER STATES
INDEX IN THE DECLARATION TO S.
B. TWO SEVEN FOUR. THE SUPREME
COURT IN MILLER VERSUS ALABAMA
AND SUPPORTED BY NEUROSCIENCE
HAS RECOGNIZED THAT YOUNG PEOPLE
ARE DIFFERENT AND HAVE THE
HALLMARK FEATURES OF YOUTH. SUCH
AS IN MATURITY IMPETUOSITY AND
FAILURE TO APPRECIATE REYES AND
CONSEQUENCES I AM ANNOYED AND
SERIOUSLY ALARMED TO THE POINT
OF SUBSTANTIAL EMOTIONAL
DISTRESS THAT THIS IS KNOWLEDGE
MEANT ABOUT THE LACK OF
MATURATION OF YOUTH. MAGICALLY
DISAPPEARS WHEN THIS LEGISLATURE
VOTES ON ANY BILL ABOUT A YOUNG
PERSON'S GENDER I DANITY. PLEASE
VOTE NOW. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
PLEASE SIMPLY STATE YOUR NAME
YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THAT YOU
OPPOSE. HI GREG BIRD WITH THE
CALIFORNIA FAMILY COUNCIL WE ARE
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED THANK YOU
. SO FEEL LAURIE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA CAN'T FAMILY COUNCIL
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. THE CITY
IS PRO RETIRED TEACHER. FOUNDER
OF INFORM PARENTS OF CONTRA
COSTA COUNTY OPPOSED. MICHELLE
CONNOR CONCERNED WOMEN FOR
AMERICA WE OPPOSE. AERION ADAM
TIKHONOVA HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER
SAN BRUNO I OPPOSE. A PASTOR
BRANDON CAMPBELL NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA COUPLE CONNECTION
FOR- BAPTIST CHURCHES IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
MONEY DENSMORE'S SAN FRANCISCO
I'M A PARENT OF A CHILD IN SAN
FRANCISCO AND I DID I AM FULLY
AWARE THAT THERE ARE ISSUES OF
HARASTA SUPPORTER POSTMASTER- I
OPPOSE EXCEPT WITH AMENDMENTS
THANK YOU- WE WILL GO BACK TO IF
OR AT LEAST WITNESS AND SUPPORT
IS HERE ONE MORE TIME. ON SEEING
THAT THEY ARE NOT HERE WE WILL
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE.
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PROMPT THE
FIRST INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME WHEN FILED BY
ZERO. AND WE WILL GO TO OUTLINED
SEVEN OF BETTER CARE COULD YOU
PLEASE JOT REITERATE THE BILL WE
ARE ON I MISSED THAT WE ARE ON
SB FIVE NINETY SIX SENATOR
PORTANTINO. THANK YOU SO SB FIVE
NINETY SIX OF YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
AT THIS TIME AND ONE SEVENTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THERE ARE MORE
THINGS GLENDALE UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT I AM IN SUPPORT OF SB.
FIVE NINETY. OUR NEXT
PARTICIPANT. SHE GOT MORE. HOW
ARE THEY EXPECTED SORT OF ONE
ONE THIRTY THREE YOU ARE OPEN. I
TOLD HER IN THE MARKET YOU.
MIGHT WANT FIFTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. TONY TWO ZERO ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT SB FIVE
NINE. THANK YOU. LIKE FORTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. IN
MORNING MERRY LITTLE SCHOOL
BOARD TRUSTEE I STRONGLY OPPOSE
. I WANT THIRTY SIX YOU ARE OPEN
. NEXT YOUR YOU. FOR ONE EIGHTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY IS ARE
GOING LAST AND I AM A FORMER
TEACHER I THAT SENT IN
CALIFORNIA CAL. WE ARE STRONG
OPPOSED. LATER SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES CHANGE KEREN. SAN
DIEGO AND HAS. MY TWENTY YOU ARE
OPEN. HELLO CAN YOU HEAR. WE CAN
. LEONARDO BURKE OFFICE AND
UNIFIED SCHOOL RETIRED EDUCATION
TEACHER I AM OPPOSED. LINE
EIGHTY TWO YOU ARE OPEN. DAVID
HOLT WITH CHURCH WITHOUT WALLS
WE STRONGLY OPPOSE. I EIGHTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
LUXURY ALL I'M WITH THE
COMMUNITY- IMPACT TEAM AND WE
STRONGLY OPPOSE. NINE ONE
SIXTEEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. WHAT
SIXTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE MORE
SHOT LATE LIKE SIXTEEN YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. I WILL BE. ONE FOR
AMERICAN. THANK LINE ONE CAN.
LANCASTER BUSINESS SO CAL. AYE
OPPOSED. ONE SIXTY THREE YOU ARE
A- THANK YOU BABA THE SCHOOL
BOARD TRUSTEE PLAZA RIDGE
FEEDING AND THIS I OPPOSE. BOTH
FINAL THAT PLEASE GOING. HOW DO
YOU KNOW WHICH IS YOUR- THAT YOU
YOUR OPEN MY ELEVEN. HELLO
PLEASE GO. OUR MONEY BACK ALLEY
AND I AM GLENDALE UNIFIED SCHOOL
- STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL I
SUPPORT NEWS NEIL. ONE ONE ONE
PLEASE AHEAD. NINE HUNDRED ONE
FIVE EIGHT SIX. NUMBER THAT ONE
A LINE PLEASE PLEASE RESTATE.
START TILL LAURA FROM BURBANK
DISTRICT I STRONGLY OPPOSE BILL
SB. FIVE NINETY SIX. WE WANT TO
LIKE SIXTY YOU ARE OPEN. LOCAL
MORNING THE THIRD VICTIM
HERNANDEZ I'M CALLING FROM FROM
ONE OF CALIFORNIA IN STRONG
OPPOSITION OF SB FIVE NINETY SIX
. ONE ONE FORTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING MR WILLIAMS
CALLING ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
PARENTS UNION POSITION SB NINETY
SIX THANK YOU. ONE ONE TWENTY
FOUR YOU ARE OPEN. YES JULIA
PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER I STRONGLY
OPPOSE. I WILL GIVE A FINAL
REMINDER OUT PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO IF YOUR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE NINE
SIX NINE FIFTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. CATALINA CAFFARELLI
PARENT AT CASTAIC UNION SCHOOL
DISTRICT I OPPOSE. LINE NINETY
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS LAURA DORSEY-
SYSTEM RESIDENT PARENT I
STRONGLY OPPOSE. ONE ONE THIRTY
YOU ARE OPEN. ANY HEARING IN
EAGLE COUNTY UNLESS AMENDED. I
ONE FORTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD.
PATRICK NEVER HUNG SOCIAL FIND
TEACHER GLENDA TEACHERS. HARD
STRONG ACT THE. NINETY YOU ARE
OPENLY. TWO AARON THREE FOR I
OPPOSE. ANIMATIC SURE WE HAVE A
THE THANK YOU. THANK YOU I'M M.
I'M SORRY CHOI BOGUE I'LL BE
YOUR IN THE MOVING- SENATOR WILL
HOP ARE CHAIR JUST ABOUT TO BE A
SO AB I BE- MODERATING AND
LITTLE FURTHER SHE GETS BACK ON
THAT AND- WE HAVE A SUPPORT
WITNESS IN THIS ARE PER. WITNESS
WHO WAS STUCK THE LINE AND SO AS
A OF WEEK TAKE OUR PRIMARY WE
ABSOLUTE I'VE PLEASE- WHEN
YOU'RE- THANK YOU VERY MUCH
INDEED MORNING. CHAIR AND PAMELA
KIDS REPRESENTING THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION WE ARE IN VERY STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE NINETY SIX
WHICH WILL HELP PROTECT SCHOOL
EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY ARE OFF OF
SCHOOL CAMPUSES ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. TO
ME AS A AS A CHILD OF AN
EDUCATOR I RECALL MY MOM BEING
FOLLOWED BY CHILDREN AND PARENTS
WHO WERE EXPRESSING SUPPORT AND
BANKS FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT
SHE DID BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
AND WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THE
POLICIES THAT ARE INCLUSIVE TO
HELP STUDENTS FEEL SAFE AT
SCHOOL ARE ALSO REASONS FOR OUR
EMPLOYEES TO BE TARGETED SO
THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF
SB FIVE NINETY SIX. ALTHOUGH
THERE ARE PROTECTIONS WHILE
WHILE EMPLOYEES ARE ON SCHOOL
SITES IT IS IMPORTANT NOW TO
ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS AND SAFETY
WHEN THEY ARE OFF OF SCHOOL
SITES AND SO THAT'S WHY WE
SUPPORT THE BILL. FOR THESE
REASONS WE URGE I THOUGHT THANK
YOU. CISION WITNESSES WE WANNA
MAKE SURE WE ACCOMMODATE
EVERYONE YEAH FOLLOW THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION WHERE SUPPORT OF THE
BILL THANK YOU. TIFFANY MARCUM
WE HAVE THE CFT WERE IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. OKAY PERFECT SO I
THINK WE'VE ACCOMMODATED
EVERYONE IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION BOTH HERE IN ROOM.
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. 292-020-2200
AS WELL AS THE ONES IN THE QUEUE
SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
DIETS FOR ANY CONSEQUENCES JUST-
CENTER SKINNER. I AM YES I WON'T
MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT
THEN I WILL JUST- JUST BASICALLY
STATE- SOME COMMENTS THAT I'VE
NOTED HERE. AND IT'S UNDER MY-
UNDERSTANDING AND WOULD LOVE TO
HEAR YOUR COMMENTS CENTER
PORTANTINO THAT- ACCORDING TO MY
NOTES IT STATES THAT WHILE THE
EDUCATION CODE MAY NOT COVER
INCIDENTS OF HARASSMENT THAT
OCCURRED OFF CAMPUS. ON OR
EXERTION MEDIA PLATFORMS THE
PENAL CODE DOES. M. AND THAT
THIS BILL. IS DUPLICATIVE OF
EXISTING LAW WHICH COVERS BOTH
CRIMINAL THREATS AND HARASSMENT
BY MEANS OF ELECTRONIC
COMMUNICATIONS AS ONE ASPECT SO
I'M HAVING WORKED IN PUBLIC
CITIES RIGHT AND OTHER FORMS OF
- STOCKING BILLS AND SO FORTH
IT'S MY UNDERSTAND WE ALREADY
HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WE
HAVE RECOURSE OVER SO- WOULD
LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON
THAT AND- M. AND- IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT. BEYOND
THE THREATS IF ANYONE WHETHER ON
CAMPUS OFF CAMPUS. DURING SCHOOL
HOURS OFF HOURS ANYONE THAT IS
THREATENED OR STALKED OR EVEN
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY HARMED. WE
ALREADY HAVE- THE STATUE IN
PLACE THAT. COULD BE HELD
AGAINST THE PERPETRATOR YOUR
THOUGHTS ARE SO COUPLE THINGS-
THOUGH. EXISTING CODE WAS
DRAFTED IN NINETEEN NINETY NINE
AND CHAPTER IN NINETEEN NINETY
NINE AND HAS BEEN UPDATED FOR
NEW TECHNOLOGIES ALSO WE DON'T
HAVE SPECIFIC LAWS THAT PROTECT
YOU IF YOU'RE IN THE PERFORMANCE
OF YOUR STATE. RESPONSIBILITY
AND THAT'S WHAT SIGNIFICAN HERE
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS
WHO WERE FOLLOWING STATE LAW AND
IN THIS CASE A TEACHER WHO'S
TEACHING TO THE LAWS THAT WE
REGULATE AND WE MANDATE IN
CALIFORNIA TO TEACH INCLUSION TO
TEACH HISTORY. ACCURATELY TO
TEACH LGBT HISTORY ACCORDING TO
STATE LAW THAT IF YOU DO THAT IF
YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH YOUR DUTY
AS AN EDUCATOR. AND THEN
SOMEBODY IS ATTACKING AND
HARASSING YOU OFF CAMPUS WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
SPECIFICALLY IN LAW PROTECTS
YOU. FOR DOING YOUR DUTY AND
AGAIN JUST AS A HUMAN BEING WE
DON'T WANT THE DOG WALKER TO BE
HARASSED ON THE STREET WE DON'T
WANT THE PLUMBER. TO BE HARASSED
TO BE THREATENED TO BE ATTACKED
IT'S SORT OF COMMON DECENCY
THAT'S WHY THAT THAT THE
OPPOSITION WHICH IS SORT OF
STAGGERING THIS IS NOT ABOUT
SINGLING OUT PARENTS AND- IF I
MAY- MADAM CHAIR. THE DEFINITION
OF HARASSMENT INCLUDES THE
COURSE OF CONDUCT MUST BE THAT
WHICH WOULD CAUSE A REASONABLE
PERSON. TO SUFFER SUBSTANTIAL
EMOTIONAL DISTRESS AND MUST
ACTUALLY CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL
EMOTIONAL DISTRESS IN THAT
PERSON. TALKING ABOUT. KNOWING
AND WILLFUL COURSE OF CONDUCT
DIRECTED AT A SPECIFIC PERSON
THAT SERIOUSLY ALARMS ANNOYS
HARASSES THE PERSON AND SERVES
NO LEGITIMATE PERSON. THAT
DEFINITION IS TAKEN FROM
EXISTING CODE. AND SO. THAT'S
WHY THE OPPOSITION TO ME.
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WE WANT
PEOPLE TO BE TREATED WITH
RESPECT AND DIGNITY AND IN THIS
CASE. FOR FOLLOWING STATE LAW.
SHOULD NOT SUBJECT YOU TO
HARASSMENT- SO HAVING SAID THAT
AND. BECAUSE YOU JUST READ THE
STATEMENT THAT YOU READ. WE
ALREADY HAVE IT IN STOCK SHOOT
BUT NOT SPECIFIC TO FOLLOWING
CALIFORNIA'S LAWS AND
REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEACHER AND
THAT'S WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT AND
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AND-
WITHIN THOSE LAWS. THERE DOESN'T
HAVE TO BE A SPECIFIC CAUSES TO
WHY OR WHY. IT CAN BE USED
AGAINST THEM NO MATTER WHAT THE
ISSUE AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO
CLARIFY THE ISSUE. BUT IT COULD
IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
IT CAN'T BE USED WITHIN THAT-
WITHIN THAT DEFINITION TO GO
AGAINST AND HOLD SOMEONE
RESPONSIBLE OR PERPETRATOR
AGAINST- WE HAVE LOTS OF ISSUES
WE HAVE LOTS OF THINGS IN LIFE
THAT COULD BE. THE QUESTION IS
SHOULD THEY BE AND THIS IS ABOUT
WHETHER THAT SHOULD HAPPEN AND
SHOULD BE CODIFIED WE CAN
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE OF WHETHER
IT COULD BE OR SHOULD BE I
BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE. AND I
BELIEVE THAT IT DOES ALREADY BUT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF A
PARTICULAR LOVE OUR DISCUSSIONS-
SO WITH THAT IN MIND ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. MADAMS
SKINNER BRIEFLY. SHE SENATE
REPORT YOU'RE BRINGING IT- HEY.
D. OUR SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR
POSITION HAVE VERY DIFFICULT
JOBS. AND IT IS IT IS. NOT
UNCOMMON PARENTS WE- WE CAN GET
VERY VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT
CIRCUMSTANCES REGARDING OUR
CHILDREN. HOWEVER THOSE
EMPLOYEES DO NOT DESERVE. TO
EXPERIENCE LEVEL OF HARASSMENT.
THAT YOUR BILL IS ADDRESSING.
AND THE TYPE PROTECTIONS THAT
YOU'RE OFFERING ARE LEGITIMATE.
THEY ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS DOING
AN IMPORTANT JOB. AND YOU KNOW
WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. YEAH
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
SUBJECT TO WHATEVER HARASSMENT-
THAT'S JUST THE ROLE THAT WE
CHOSE TO PLAY. AND EXCEPT WHEN
WE RUN FOR OFFICE HOWEVER. A
SCHOOL EMPLOYEE DOES NOT THAT IS
NOT THEIR PURPOSE AND THAT SO
ANYWAY APPRECIATED AND I HOPE WE
GET TO A- THANK YOU ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR OR
QUESTIONS FROM THE DÍAS SEE NON
MATTER SECRETARY WOULD YOU CALL
THE WORK. OKAY I'M SORRY YES-
PLEASE CONSIDER PRETTY OVERTURE
LIKE TO CLOSE THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR. YOU KNOW- I AM A PUBLIC
SCHOOL PARENT I'M A PROUD PTA
MEMBER. THERE'S CERTAINLY A ROLE
AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR PARENTS
TO BE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC SCHOOL
EDUCATION I MEAN IT IS A PUBLIC
SCHOOL EDUCATION. BUT THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN. ADVOCATING
FOR HEALTHY EDUCATION HEALTHY
CHILDREN. AND ATTACKING AND
HARASSING. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE FOR
DOING THEIR JOB. NO ONE HAS THE
RIGHT TO DO THAT TO ANYONE. AND
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL IS SEEKING
TO ADDRESS WE ARE AT A TIME IN
OUR LIFE. WHERE IT'S BECOME
ACCEPTABLE. TO CROSS. BOUNDARIES
OF CONFRONTATION THAT FIFTY
YEARS AGO PEOPLE WOULD NEVER DO
. AND WE CAN'T NORMALIZE THAT.
YOU KNOW WE SHOULD BE OPENING
DOORS FOR PEOPLE. NOT SHUTTING
DOORS IN PEOPLE'S FACES. WE
SHOULD BE HAVING A PRINCIPLED
CIVIL DISCOURSE LIKE YOU AND I
JUST ENGAGED IN. NOT SCREAMING
AND YELLING IN SOMEBODY'S FACE
AND THREATENING SOMEBODY'S LIFE
BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB
. AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT
OUR SOCIETY HAS. COME TO THAT
POINT. WHERE WE CAN'T JUST SAY
WE NEED A CIVIL DISCOURSE BUT
THIS BILL DOESN'T INFRINGE UPON
ANYBODY'S RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE.
ADVOCATE IT JUST MEANS. DON'T
THREATEN VIOLENTLY SOMEBODY FOR
DOING THEIR JOB AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASTRONOMICAL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH CENTER PORTANTINO
I'M SECRETARY IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SB FIVE
NINE SIX MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CENTER HOBBS. A
TO ABOUT NOW TO ABOUT NOW
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE WIENER WIENER ARE.
WE'RE GOING TO- WE HAVE- WITH
THE PHONE THREE TWO THREE FIVE
NINETY SIX THE- SO FIVE NINETY
SIX WE'RE GONNA REMAIN ON CALL
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS AT THIS TIME
- I BELIEVE CENTER ATKINS IS
HERE. MATTER TYPE WELCOME- TO
PUBLIC SAFETY AND I BELIEVE YOU
HAVE SB FIVE NINETEEN YES THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR. ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
SB FIVE ONE NINE TODAY. A BILL
THAT WOULD BRING ADDITIONAL
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
TO OUR COUNTY JAILS SPECIFICALLY
AROUND IN CUSTODY DEATHS. IN
TWENTY TWENTY THERE WERE OVER A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY IN CUSTODY
DEATHS STATEWIDE AND WHILE SB
FIVE ONE NINE IS INTENDED TO
PROVIDE OVERSIGHT FOR THE WHOLE
STATE. I CAME AT THIS ISSUE FROM
A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE. OVER A
FIFTEEN YEAR SPAN A HUNDRED AND
EIGHTY FIVE PEOPLE DIED IN SAN
DIEGO'S JAILS. THE HIGHEST RATE
IN CUSTODY DEATHS IN THE STATE
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE ALONE THERE
WERE EIGHTEEN DEATHS IN SAN
DIEGO JAILS. IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE MEMBERS OF THE SAN DIEGO
LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION CALLED ON
THE STATE AUDITOR TO REVIEW THE
ALARMING AND TROUBLING DEATHS
OCCURRING IN CUSTODY IN SAN
DIEGO. LAST YEAR THE STATE
AUDITOR RELEASED ITS REPORT
PROVIDING A SERIES OF
RECOMMENDATIONS PRIMARILY AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL TO PREVENT FUTURE
DEATHS. THE STATE AUDITOR ALSO
ISSUED SEVERAL STATE
RECOMMENDATIONS ONE OF WHICH I
ALONG WITH OTHER SAN DIEGO
DELEGATION MEMBERS CO AUTHORED
LAST YEAR WITH ASSEMBLYMEMBER
AKELA WEBER. TO BRING HEALTH AND
MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTISE TO THE
BOARD OF STATE AND COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS. WHILE MANY
RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN
IMPLEMENTED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
THEY'RE STILL LINGERING
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BRING
MORE TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY TO PREVENT ANY
FURTHER DEATHS. AND MANY LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE STATE
ARE GRAPPLING WITH SIMILAR
PROBLEMS. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE
SAN DIEGO PROBLEM. IN TWENTY
TWENTY TO EIGHTEEN PEOPLE DIED
IN CUSTODY IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY
JAIL. IN TWENTY TWENTY THREE
SEVEN PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN LOS
ANGELES COUNTY JAIL SO FAR IT'S
ONLY APRIL. SACRAMENTO SAN
BENITO AND SANTA CLARITA CLARA
SORRY SACRAMENTO SAN BERNARDINO
AND SANTA CLARA COUNTIES ARE
UNDER CONSENT DECREES AND
ACTUALLY I'VE LEARNED THAT THERE
ARE TEN COUNTIES UNDER CONSENT
DECREES ON THIS ISSUE. BUT LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE LIMITED CONTROL
OVER THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES
ADOPTED BY A SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. EVEN THOUGH A COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS REQUIRED
TO APPROVE A SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
INTERESTINGLY COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS BEAR THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF SEVEN LAWSUITS
INVOLVING IN CUSTODY JAIL DEATHS
BUT HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY
REQUIRING THE SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT TO ENACT POLICIES. TO
REDUCE IN CUSTODY DEATHS FOR
EXAMPLE SAN DIEGO COUNTY MY
COUNTY. JAIL THE DEATHS AND
INJURIES HAVE COST SAN DIEGO
TAXPAYERS ALMOST FIFTY MILLION
DOLLARS IN LEGAL SETTLEMENTS.
AND JURY AWARDS IN JUST THE PAST
FIVE YEARS. SB FIVE ONE NINE IS
INTENDED TO PROVIDE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND THE PUBLIC
IMPORTANT INFORMATION IN ORDER
TO HELP ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO SPECIFICALLY
WHAT SB FIVE ONE NINE DOES IT IT
DOES THREE THINGS IT WOULD
ENSURE FULL REPORTS OF
INVESTIGATIONS RELATING TO IN
CUSTODY DEATHS ARE PUBLICLY
ACCESSIBLE. THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE STATE AUDITOR'S REPORT
IT WOULD RESTORE A COUNTY BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS DISCRETION TO
ESTABLISH A LOCAL DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AND REHABILITATION
HEADED BY AN EXECUTIVE OFFICER.
IF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS
UNRESPONSIVE IN ADDRESSING THE
PROBLEMS WITH ITS COUNTY
DETENTION FACILITIES AND IT
WOULD EXPAND THE MISSION OF THE
BSE C. TO PROMOTE THE LEGAL AND
SAFE CONDITIONS. FOR YOUTH
INMATES AND STAFF IN LOCAL
DETENTION FACILITIES. OF MADAM
CHAIR I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
ARE TECHNICAL CHANGES AND
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS
COMMITTEE STAFF. I'M HAPPY TO
TAKE THOSE AS THIS MOVES INTO
THE NEXT COMMITTEE AND AN ON-
BUT WITH ME TODAY- TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS PAUL
PARKER HE IS THE EXECUTIVE
OFFICER AT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY
CITIZENS LAW ENFORCEMENT REVIEW
BOARD. FULLER FOR SHORT. AND
JULIA YOU AN ATTORNEY WHO'S
REPRESENTED FAMILIES WHO HAVE
DIED IN CUSTODY AND WITH YOUR
PERMISSION THEY WILL BRIEFLY
SPEAK. ABSOLUTELY WE'LL BEGIN
WITH THEIR LEAD WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. NINETEEN. GOOD
MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS PAUL PARKER AND I AM THE
EXECUTIVE OFFICER WITH SAN DIEGO
COUNTY CITIZENS LAW ENFORCEMENT
REVIEW BOARD WHERE THE CIVILIAN
OVERSIGHT ENTITY. OVER THE SAN
DIEGO COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT WOULD CONDUCT
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS INTO
ALL IN CUSTODY DEATHS. IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE THERE WERE EIGHTEEN.
IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO THERE WERE
NINETEEN OR TWENTY DEPENDING ON
WHOSE STATISTICS YOU SITE. AND
SO FOR THIS YEAR AS THE SENATOR
SAID THERE HAVE BEEN THREE.
DURING OUR INVESTIGATIONS WERE
NOT PROVIDED INTERNAL AFFAIRS
REPORTS OR FINDINGS AND ARE NOT
PRIVY TO THE DEPARTMENT'S
COMPLETED CRITICAL INCIDENT
REVIEW BOARD. REPORTS IN WHICH
POTENTIAL MISCONDUCT AND
POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS ARE
IDENTIFIED. THE DEPARTMENT
CONTENDS IT DOES REPORTER
ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED
COMMUNICATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY
FAMILY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY
MEMBERS ARE ALSO NOT PRIVY TO
THOSE REPORTS. THIS LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY COMBINED WITH THE
STATUTORY CASE LAW LIMITATIONS
PLACED UPON CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT
ENTITIES IN CALIFORNIA. CREDIT
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF THESE
INVESTIGATIONS AND THE FAMILY
MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS. WITHOUT ANSWERS TO MOST
BASIC OF QUESTIONS. WHAT
PREVENTIVE MEASURES WERE
UNDERTAKEN BY THE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT DID IT DO WELL. WHAT COULD
HAVE DONE BETTER. MOST
IMPORTANTLY WHAT THE DEATH
PREVENTABLE. WAS ANYONE HELD
RESPONSIBLE FOR. WHAT POLICY
CHANGES WERE IMPLEMENTED. AND
WHAT OTHER ACTIONS WERE TAKEN TO
PREVENT FUTURE DEATHS. SB FIVE
NINETEEN IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT
WILL PROVIDE CLEAR AND FAMILIES
THE INFORMATION AND
DOCUMENTATION HELP ANSWER THESE
QUESTIONS. WELL THIS BILL
ADDRESSES ISSUES IN SAN DIEGO AS
A SENATOR SAID IT'S IMPORTANT
STATEWIDE. TO BE CLEAR IN
ADDITION TO MY FIVE YEARS OF
CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT EXPERIENCE I
HAVE OVER TWENTY YEARS OF
MEDICAL EXAMINER CORONER
EXPERIENCE HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
IN THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED
STATES MEDICAL LEGAL DEATH
INVESTIGATOR IN EXECUTIVE ROLES.
I'VE INTERACTED WITH THOUSANDS
OF GRIEVING FAMILY MEMBERS OF
THE LAST TWO DECADES. I KNOW FOR
A FACT THAT THESE FAMILY MEMBERS
ARE PROVIDED MINIMAL IF ANY
RELEVANT INFORMATION DURING THE
INVESTIGATION INTO ANY LAW
ENFORCEMENT RELATED DEATHS.
THESE INVESTIGATION TO LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS TO SEVERAL YEARS.
UPON THE COMPLETION OF THE
LAFORTUNE INVESTIGATIONS THESE
FAMILY MEMBERS ARE PROVIDED
LIMITED INFORMATION OFTENTIMES
WITHOUT HAVING THEIR SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS ANSWERED. MANY TIMES
LITIGATION IS THE ONLY OPTION
FOR THESE FAMILY MEMBERS TO GET
ANY KIND OF ANSWERS ABOUT THE
CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE
DEATH OF THEIR LOVED ONES. WHEN
I TRAIN MEDICAL EXAMINER CORONER
EMPLOYEES OVER THE LAST TWO
DECADES I ALWAYS REMINDED THEM
OF THE FAMILY MEMBER. IT
WHATEVER FAMILY MEMBERS NOT TOLD
THEY'RE GONNA FILL IN THE
BLANKS. OFTENTIMES WITH
CONJECTURE. AND SPECULATION. AND
OFTENTIMES COMING TO INCORRECT
CONCLUSIONS. FOR SUPPORT SENATOR
RECKONS EFFORTS TO INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY AROUND DETENTION
FACILITY RELATED DEATHS. SB FIVE
NINETEEN MAY NOT RELIEVE THE
PAIN THE FAMILIES EXPERIENCE IN
THE EVENT OF A DEATH. WILL
CERTAINLY HELP SOLVE THE
MYSTERIES LEFT UNANSWERED. AND
THE STORIES LEFT UNTOLD BY THE
STATUS QUO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH WE HAVE A SECOND LEAD
WITH THIS. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS JULIE YEAH YOU I'M THE
PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY PROJECT. WHICH IS
THE LARGEST CIVIL RIGHTS
ATTORNEY ORGANIZATION IN THE
COUNTRY. I SERVE ON THE BOARD AS
AT AS- AT CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIA. AND I AM A PARTNER
AT IREDELL AND YOU. A CIVIL
RIGHTS LAW FIRM BASED OUT OF SAN
DIEGO. AND IN THAT CAPACITY FOR
THE LAST TWO DECADES I HAVE
REPRESENTED THE VICTIMS AND
IMPACTED FAMILY MEMBERS. OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED OR BEEN
CATASTROPHICALLY INJURED IN OUR
LOCAL JAILS. FOR AND WHILE SAN
DIEGO MAY BE THE WORST IT
CERTAINLY IS NOT ALONE IN THE
VIOLATIONS OF THE MOST HORRIFIC
FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS- ACROSS
THE STATE. I AT LEAST TEN OTHER
COUNTIES HAVE ONGOING CONSENT
DECREES AS CENTER ATKINS HAD
MENTIONED EARLIER AND THIS IS A
STATE WIDE PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES
AND CALLS FOR A STATEWIDE
SOLUTION. AND THIS IS WHY SB
FIVE ONE NINE HAS A BROAD
SUPPORT OF CIVIL RIGHTS
ORGANIZATIONS REFORM AS
COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY- THE VICTIMS AND
IMPACTED FAMILIES THEMSELVES.
AND AS EVIDENCED BY THE STATE
AUDITOR'S REPORT WE'RE
EXPERIENCING A CRISIS. AND TIME
FOR A REAL REFORM HAS ALREADY
COME. WELL SAN DIEGO LITERALLY
HAS A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN THE
CULTURE OF INACTION AS WE HAVE
SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS
PERVASIVE THERE MUST BE SIZE
SEISMIC SHIFT IN THE CULTURE
ITSELF A PROACTIVE REFORM IN
ORDER FOR US TO ADDRESS THESE
STATS. BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS
NEED TO TAKE MATTERS INTO THEIR
OWN HANDS IF SHERIFFS ACROSS THE
STATE ARE UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO
MAKE THIS SYSTEMIC CHANGES. OUR
COMMUNITIES PARTICULARLY AT THE
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND THE
DISENFRANCHISED CAN WAIT NO
LONGER. WE NEED ANSWERS IN
PROACTIVE CHANGES AND I DO
BELIEVE SINCERELY THAT SB FIVE
ONE NINE WILL PROVIDE CRITICAL
STEPS IN ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS
THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE WERE ABOUT TO STOP
BECAUSE HE WAS JUST OVER TWO
MINUTES- PERFECT SO WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED IN
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE NINETY
NINETEEN PLEASE. LAST CALDWELL
HUGHES FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. POLICE FOUND WRECKED
FROM TRITON PRICE CONSULTING ON
BEHALF OF THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS
OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT AND
THINKS THE AUTHOR. A LITTLE ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS FOR
SAFETY AND JUSTICE IN SUPPORT.
BRITNEY BAR SAUDI ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA NEWS PUBLISHERS
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
BROADCASTERS ASSOCIATION MEDIA
ALLIANCE AND OAKLAND PRIVACY IN
SUPPORT. JAMES KING ON BEHALF OF
THE OTHER BAKER CENTER IN
SUPPORT. POLICE SAY KELLY ON
BEHALF OF THE L. THE BIGGEST
SENATE SUPPORT. J. FRIGO CLAWSON
ADVOCATE AND FACILITATOR IN
ELMWOOD CORRECTIONAL FACILITY IN
FULL SUPPORT. LASSEN COMMUNITY
IMPACT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION OF
FULL SUPPORT. DANSOMAN ON BEHALF
OF THE ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION
SOCIAL CHANGE AND SAY GARDENS
PROGRAM AND THE REENTRY
PROVIDERS ASSOCIATIONS FROM
SUPPORT. GENETIC LEVINE- ON THE
HALF OF THAT POLICY ALLIANCE'S
SUPPORT.
FORGET TO MY MIKE ON- DO WE HAVE
ANY SUPPORT WITNESSES FOR SB
FIVE NINETEEN HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION FOR SB NINETEEN- AT
ANY LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES
HERE IN S. FOR SB FIVE NINETEEN
. SCENE NINE ONE NOW MOVES TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION OUT TO
SB FIVE NINETEEN HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. C. NINE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO OUR WITNESSES VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE OUT SERVICE.
THE ADDAMS FIVE SO WE ARE WILL
GO UP TO BOTH WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION FOR SB
FIVE NINETEEN AND THOSE
WITNESSES PLEASE IF YOU WOULD-
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR POSITION
AND YOUR CONDITION THAT YOU'RE
PRESENTING ONLY. OF MODERATOR IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE QUEUE UP THE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE NINETEEN
AND WILL CONTINUE. THANK YOU AS
MANAGER STATED IF YOU ARE
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE
ONE NINE PLEASE TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY PRESS ONE FOLLOWED
BY ZERO ONE FELL BY ZERO WILL
BEGIN FLYING. ONE FIFTY SIX.
FIFTY SIX YOU ARE OPEN. ONE
FIFTY SIX ONE MORE SHOT. I WILL
MOVE ALONG TILL ONE EIGHTY-
SKEWS ME LINE EIGHTY NINE EIGHTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. IN CRAWFORD IN
SUPPORT OF REPRESENTING ANYTHING
IN LIFE IN CUSTODY IMPENDING.
NUMBER NINETEEN MY FRIEND. I ONE
SIXTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD-
WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF INITIATE.
IN STRONG SUPPORT. LINE ONE
SIXTY NINE YOU ARE OPEN. THE
WHITE SEA ON BEHALF OF
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA AND
WE ARE IN SUPPORT. LINE ONE
FIFTY THREE YOU ARE OPEN. PASTOR
JORDAN CHRIST BIRDS MINISTER
GRAHAM IN SUPPORT. PLEASE GO
AHEAD LINE THIRTY EIGHT. RACHEL
MILLER WITH WIDENING GROUP ON
BEHALF OF NEXT GEN CALIFORNIA AN
IMMIGRANT DEFENSE ADVOCATE IN
SUPPORT OF SB ONE OR FIVE ONE
NINE THANK YOU. NINE FORTY ONE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE FIFTIETH
HOLLYWOOD FRANKLIN AND PLEADED
VERY QUALITY AND STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOUNG. YOU ARE OPEN LATER
. NINE MILLARD NORTH COUNTY
EQUITY AND JUSTICE COALITION IS
LEGALIZING CUSTODY CAMPAIGN IN
SAN DIEGO IN STRONG SUPPORT. MY
TWENTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD
WE'LL GET ONE FINAL REMINDER OUT
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO IF YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO S. B. FIVE NINETY
. PLEASE GO AHEAD TWENTY THREE.
THE MAYOR DORDOGNE IN STRONG
SUPPORT BASED ON- ACTUAL. I
THINK THAT MY SON. WITNESSED
WHILE HE WAS IN CUSTODY IN
RIVERSIDE COUNTY. AND WE WILL GO
TO LINE ONE SEVENTY ONE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. ALL OF THE NEEDS
DOUBLE OP WITH THE LIVE IN
CUSTODY. AND I AM SUPPORT OF SB
MIGHT COULD SAVE AND PROTECT THE
COMICAL. THANK. NINE SIX NINE
YOU ARE OPEN. HIS K. FOR SAN
DIEGO. WITH BEGINS TO IN STRONG
AT S. B. FIVE NINETY. I WANT
SIXTY SO PLEASE AHEAD. TOM
PACKARD SHOWING UP FOR RACIAL
JUST NOR COUNTY SANTA. AND. AND
MADAM CHAIR THERE NO OTHER
PARTICIPANTS QUEUED UP
REPUBLICAN. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MR MODERATOR AND THANK
YOU FOR THE REMINDER CALLS FOR
WITNESSES TO QUEUE UP I WILL NOT
BRING IT BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS- FOR THEIR SKINNER.
THANK YOU I'M NOT VICE CHAIR. I
GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING
THIS BILL HI MY JAIL ONE OF MY
COUNTY JAIL IS IN A SIMILAR
CIRCUMSTANCE IT'S BEEN UNDER-
INVESTIGATION BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE EVEN UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. AND WE HAD- I
THINK AT ONE POINT WE WERE THE
ONES WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF
DEATHS PER JAIL- CAN'T PER
CAPITA I MEAN NOT THAT I. FEEL
THAT IT'S GOOD THAT ANYBODY SIR
PASSED US- BUT IT'S STILL- THE
CONDITIONS WERE. WERE HORRIFIC
AND- THEY'VE BEEN INVESTIGATED
NOT ONLY FOR THE DESPERATE FOR
THE TREATMENT OF MENTALLY- IT
BILL PATIENTS AT THE SKEWS ME-
INMATES AND MANY MANY OTHER
THINGS. AND OF COURSE EVERY-
TIME COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THAT THE
SHERIFF IS NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE
IN FACT IT LED TO A- THE SHERIFF
LOSING THEIR REELECTION. AND
THE- THE WHEN THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS APPROACH THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS. SO FORTH NOTHING WE
CAN DO. AND WHILE I'VE NEVER
INTERPRETED OUR STATE LAWS AND
SUCH THAT THERE WAS NOTHING A
SUPER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS COULD
DO BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE THE
INSPECTION OF JAIL FACILITIES IS
IN LAW IN THE HANDS OF. COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS WELL AS
THE PROVISION OF HEALTHCARE.
HOWEVER WE STILL HAVE THE
CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THE COUNTIES
UP AND DOWN THE STATE ALL ACT
LIKE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
SO THAT IS WHY THIS BILL IS SO
NEEDED NOW. I WILL ALSO SPEAK TO
BE SEC WHICH HAS NOT BEEN
ADDRESSED BY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
SO FAR. AND THAT IS THE BOARD OF
STATE AND COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
WHICH WAS CREATED WHEN THE STATE
DID THE REALIGNMENT THAT
RESULTED IN. OUR AT COUNTY JAILS
HAVING SO MANY MORE PEOPLE IN
THEM THAN PREVIOUSLY. AND THE-
THE BSE C. WAS GIVEN AS THE L.
A. YO REPORT THAT IS CITED IN
THE ANALYSIS HAS REFERENCED SOME
VERY BIG I'LL CALL IT FAKE.
MAYBE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE
STATUTE WE DIDN'T THINK SO BUT
SOME NON NON FULLY DEFINED
RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH IS THE
RESULT IS THAT THE BSE SEAT
WHILE THEY HAVE YOU KNOW SOME
RESPONSIBILITIES FOR. OVERSIGHT
OF THE JAILS AND THEY WERE
CREATED TO CREATE SOME SOME
LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE
FACT THAT WE- DID THE
REALIGNMENT INCREASED THERE HAS
BEEN NO CHANGE IN ANY DEAL
CONDITIONS AS A RESULT OF THE
BSE SEE EXISTING. AND IN THE
YEARS THAT I WAS CHAIR OF THE
PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET SUB
COMMITTEE. MY AFTER MANY MANY
HEARINGS AND HOW MIGHT
CONCLUSION WAS THERE'S NO
PURPOSE FOR THE PSEC. I'M FIVE
SO. IT ISN'T. GOODBYE YOUR BILL
IS ADDING SOME MORE SPECIFIC
PURPOSE I WOULD PROBABLY GO
FURTHER. BUT MAYBE WE CAN OVER
TIME. BECAUSE IF WE CREATE
SOMETHING CALLED THE BOARD OF
STATE AND COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
AND WE TELL THE PUBLIC ITS
RESPONSIBILITIES TO HOLD. TO GET
MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONDITIONS IN
OUR JAILS. ARE YOU KNOW
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT
BE EMBARRASSED BY. THEN WE NEED
IT NEEDS TO HAVE THE TEETH TO DO
THAT- SO YOU'RE YOU'RE ADDING
SOME THIS BILL RATHER- S. B. I'M
SORRY I'M FORGETTING AT FIVE
NINETEEN ADD SOME WHICH IS GOOD.
AND THE IT ADDITIONALLY I THINK
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THAT THE
PARTS OF YOUR BILL THAT ALLOW
FOR MORE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
BECAUSE SUNSHINE IS THE BEST
DISINFECTANT. AND THE FACT THAT-
ADVOCATES AND FAMILIES COULD NOT
GET ANY INFORMATION ABOUT
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THEIR LOVED
ONES WHO DIED. IN THE FACILITY
OR WHO HAD A PSYCHOTIC BREAK
DOWNS AND SUCH OR WHO WE LATER
LEARN TO PERHAPS WERE. WERE
CONSTRAINED IN CELLS FOR DAYS AT
A TIME. SO THAT- THAT PARTY YOUR
BILL IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT
AND REALLY NEEDED SO I VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING IT I
WOULD LOVE TO IF YOU'RE WILLING
TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR. AND
I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE
WANT TO SPEAK BUT- SKINNER DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR-
QUESTIONS FROM THE DICE. OKAY
THEN YES IT HAS BEEN MOVED. SO
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING- THAT MY
COUNTY IS MY COUNTIES OR COUNTY
IS STILL WORKING WITH YOUR WITH
YOUR OFFICE AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO SEEING I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE
MANY OF THE POINTS THAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO- ADDRESS BECAUSE WE DO
WE HAVE HAD SOME INCIDENTS IN
OUR IN OUR COUNTY AS WELL. THEY
APPRECIATE THE EFFORT- IN THE
INTENT OF THE BILL FOR
TRANSPARENCY- I'M ALWAYS ABOUT
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR-
AGENCIES AND ENTITIES HERE IN
THE STATE OF AN ADVOCATE FOR
THAT. I'M I'M GONNA LAY OFF THE
BILL RIGHT NOW AS IS- IN HOPES
THAT. THE CONCERNS ARE
ADDRESSED- BUT I AM IN SUPPORT
OF THE INTENT OF THE BILL TO
HAVE DISBURSING HAVE OUR
FAMILIES KNOW- YOU KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED TO THEIR LOVED ONES-
UNDER CUSTODY SO ON THAT I WILL.
LAUGH ANY OTHER COMMENTS- YEAH I
WOULD GOOD OKAY SO SENATOR
ATKINS WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
PLEASE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR-
LET ME THANK ALL OF THE SPEAKERS
TODAY THAT WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND THOSE
THAT CALLED AND- I GREATLY
APPRECIATE YOUR SHOWING UP FOR
THIS. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR-
MY COLLEAGUE- MISS SKINNER FROM
BERKELEY BECAUSE- THE
TRANSPARENCY PIECE ACTUALLY
BUILDS OFF WITH TWO OF HER
PREVIOUS BILLS. TO TRY TO DO
THIS AND LASTLY I WOULD SAY TO
YOU MADAM CHAIR INTO AND TO
EVERYONE. WE HAVE WORK TO DO
HERE YOU KNOW IT THIS IS NOT
ABOUT POINTING FINGERS THIS IS
ABOUT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY
TO PROVIDE THE OVERSIGHT THE
TRANSPARENCY AND THE RESOURCES.
AND IF YOU TALK TO ANY OF THE
SHERIFF'S ONE OF THE THINGS ARE
GOING TO BRING UP IS THAT WE
DON'T PROVIDE ENOUGH RESOURCES.
ARE OR THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH THERE
TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE
MECHANISMS WE NEED TO PUT IN
PLACE TO PROVIDE THE SAFETY- IN
OUR JAILS. AND SO- YOU KNOW THIS
ALLOWS SOME LOCAL CONTROL FOR A
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO MAKE
THAT DETERMINATION IS SET UP ON
THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT. THE
TRANSPARENCY PIECE IS REALLY
CRITICAL- AND TO YOUR POINT
ABOUT THE SEC WE'VE HAD
CONVERSATIONS THE CHAIR OF THIS
COMMITTEE AND I SIT ON RULES.
AND WE HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF
THOSE CONFEREES ABOUT WHAT OUR
CONCERNS ARE SO. I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE WE REALIZE WE ALL HAVE
SOME RESPONSIBILITY HERE. IT
ISN'T JUST THAT THIS BILL WILL
SOLVE A PROBLEM. NOT IF WE DON'T
FOLLOW THROUGH. AND PROVIDE THE
KINDS OF SUPPORTS WE NEED TO.
OFF FROM EVERYONE ENGAGED IN
THIS SO I AM STILL WORKING WITH
PEOPLE I HAVE MET WITH A
INDIVIDUALS FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT. TO HEAR THEIR
RECOMMENDATIONS ALL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THEM. BUT IN THE
MEANTIME I JUST REALLY THINK.
THAT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US
TO UNDERSTAND AND HEAR WHAT'S
GOING ON STATEWIDE. AND DO OUR
JOB TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING
THAT KIND OF SAFETY I ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR JOB. THANK YOU SENATOR
ATKINS- I'M SECRETARY IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. AS
FIVE NINETY THE MOST DEEP. TO
GOV AND FINANCE SENATOR BOB. A
JO'BURG. RADFORD RADFORD I
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE WIENER.
WIENER AYE. DOESN'T HOLD OKAY
WILL REMAIN- LEAVE THIS BILL ON
CALL FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. AND
WILL NOT CONTINUE WITH SENATOR
GROW.
WELCOME SENATOR GROVE AND- WE
ARE GOING TO BE PRIVY TO YOUR SB
FOURTEEN. WHEN YOU'RE READY
PLEASE. THANK YOU THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS BEFORE IT BEING IT BEGAN
I'D LIKE TO THINK THE CHAIR IN
THIS COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
ASSISTANCE ON THIS BILL.
ALTHOUGH IT'S MY BELIEF THAT
TRAFFICKING IN INDIVIDUAL OF ANY
AGE. FOR ANY PURPOSE SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED A SERIOUS FELONY IN
ORDER TO MOVE THIS BILL FORWARD
TODAY I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENT OUTLINED IN
THE ANALYSIS. SENATE BILL
FOURTEEN IS A BIPARTISAN MEASURE
THAT IS JOINT AUTHORED BY
SENATOR KABHI HERO IN SENATOR
RUBIO AND CO AUTHORED BY TEN
SENATORS IN NINETEEN ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS ARE BILL WILL INCLUDE
HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF A LIST OF
CRIMES IT'S DEFINED SERIOUS.
UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW MAKING IT A
DESTRUCTIBLE OFFENSE AS WE ALL
KNOW HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS
EXPLODING IN OUR CITIES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY THIS HORRENDOUS
PRACTICE COULD VERY EASILY BUT
BE DEFINED AS THE CRIME OF OUR
TIME. THE BUYING AND SELLING OF
PEOPLE FOR FINANCIAL GAIN IS A
BRUTAL CRIME THAT USES MENTAL
PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
MANIPULATION AND VIOLENCE TO
CONTROL THEIR VICTIMS. WITH THE
PROLIFERATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA
AND EASY ACCESS TO VICTIMS NO
ONE IS SAFE FROM THE FOR OUR
READERS OF THE HUMAN TRAFFICKERS
GRIP. MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN OF
ALL AGES ARE LURED IN FORCE INTO
BOTH SEX AND LABOR TRAFFICKING
AND UNFORTUNATELY CALIFORNIA IS
ONE OF THE LARGEST HUBS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. DATA FROM THE
SERVICE PROVIDERS OF THE NEW U.
S. NATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HOTLINE HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN
THAT GROUPS WHO EXPERIENCE
MARGINALIZATION BY RACE. INCOME
GENDER AND I'D SEXUAL IDENTITY
AN ORANGE ORIENTATION AND
IMMIGRATION STATUS ARE MORE
LIKELY TO BE EXPLOITED. THROUGH
SEX AND LABOR TRAFFICKING. I
WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THINK
SENATOR BRADFORD FROM GUARDINO
FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS FACT WITH
HIS EBONY ALERT WHICH IS A BILL
THAT OUTLINES HOW BLACK WOMEN
AND GIRLS ARE INCREASE RISK OF
BEING. HARMED IN TRAFFIC INNER
DISPROPORTIONATELY MISSING IN
CALIFORNIA. DATA FROM THE TWO
THOUSAND AND NINETEEN UNITED
STATES SENATE CENSUS SHOWS THAT
PEOPLE. WHO ARE BLACK AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN. MAKE UP NEARLY
THIRTEEN POINT 4% OF THE UNITED
STATES POPULATION HOWEVER NEARLY
40% OF THE PERSONS OF PEOPLE OF
COLOR BLACK CHILDREN MAKE UP
ABOUT THIRTY EIGHT PERCENT. OF
THE MISSING CHILD CASES. SENATOR
BRADFORD'S INFORMATION ON HIS
DATA SHEET FOR HIS EBONY ALERT
PROVIDED US WITH THAT IMMENSELY
IMPORTANT FACTUAL INFORMATION TO
SUPPORT OUR SEX TRAFFICKING BILL
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK SENATOR
. THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS
FOUNDATION REPORT ON HUMAN
TRAFFICKING FOUND IN EVERY TWO
YEARS A STUDY OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING INCIDENTS ACROSS
THIS COUNTRY. 40% OF SEX
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS WERE
IDENTIFIED AS BLACK WOMEN WOMEN
ACCORDING TO THE FBI. 53% OF ALL
JUVENILE PROSTITUTION ARREST
WERE BLACK CHILDREN THERE IS NO
SUCH THING AS JUVENILE
PROSTITUTION THIS SEX
TRAFFICKING AS JUVENILES CANNOT
CONSENT TO SEX. AGAIN I'D LIKE
TO THANK SENATOR BRADFORD FOR
PROVIDING THESE HEROIN CISTUS
DICKS. ADDITIONALLY NATIVE
AMERICAN WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE
VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AT
A MUCH HIGHER RATE COMPARED TO
THE OVERALL POPULATION.
CALIFORNIA HAS THE SIXTH HIGHEST
DEATH RATE IN INDIGENOUS WOMEN
IN URBAN CITIES DO THE PERVASIVE
NATURE OF THIS ISSUE HERE IN THE
GOLDEN STATE CALIFORNIA WAS
CHOSEN TO BE THE FIRST PILOT
PROGRAM. LOCATION FOR THE UNITED
STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN
MISSING MURDERED INDIGENOUS
PERSONS INITIATIVE. AGAIN THAT'S
WHY TRAFFIC IN A PERSON OF ANY
AGE FROM ONE TO DEATH FOR ANY
REASON INCLUDING BOTH LABOR AND
SEXUAL EXPLOITATION SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED A SERIOUS FELONY.
EXPLOITATION OF OUR MOST
VULNERABLE POPULATION SHOULD BE
TREATED AS A SERIOUS CRIME THAT
IT IS. IN ORDER TO CONFRONT THE
CRISIS HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING A HOLISTIC
APPROACH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED
IN EVERY FACET OF THIS COMPLEX
ISSUE. INCLUDING EDUCATION
IDENTIFICATION FUNDING AND
DIRECT SUPPORT FOR SERVICES FOR
SURVIVORS IN TRAUMA INFORMED
CARE. HOWEVER WE ALSO NEED
STIFFER PENALTIES FOR
CONSEQUENCES FOR TRAFFICKERS
THEMSELVES WHO ARE PERPETRATING
THESE BRUTAL AND HEINOUS ACTS ON
OUR MOST VULNERABLE ESPECIALLY
THOSE THAT TRAFFIC CHILDREN.
HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS FACE A
BRUTAL REALITY MANY OF US CANNOT
EVEN FATHOM. TRAFFICKERS CONTROL
EVERY ASPECT OF THEIR VICTIMS
LIVES AND TREAT THEM AS MODERN
SLAVES. VICTIMS ARE FORCED TO
WORK THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE
DAYS A YEAR WITHOUT PAY. THE
TRAFFICKER TELLS THEM WHEN TO
WORK WHEN TO EAT WHEN TO SLEEP
AND WHEN TO REST. IT TAKES AND
THEY TAKE EVERY DOLLAR THAT THEY
YEARN. TRAFFICKERS EVEN BRAND
THEIR VICTIMS IN ORDER TO SHOW
OWNERSHIP. OVER THEM AS PROPERTY
SOME TEENAGE GIRLS AS YOUNG AS
TWELVE OR FORCED TO WEAR A
TATTOO BRAND ON THEIR FACE FOR
EVER. YOU'RE FORCED TO WEAR THIS
TATTOO BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER
HAVE THEIR LIFE IS THEIR OWN
THEIR CONTROLLED AND OWNED BY
ANOTHER PERSON. THE VERY ERROR
VERY RARELY IF NOT AT ALL CALL
THEM BY THEIR NAME. THEY CALL
HIM THEM SOMETHING COMPLETELY
INAPPROPRIATE TO MENTION IN THIS
COMMITTEE. THE VIOLENCE AND
TORTURED AND TOURED BY THESE
VICTIMS IS SO GRUESOME IT'S
DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. VIOLENT
ACTS SUCH AS RAPE SODOMY
BEATINGS STRANGULATION ARE OFTEN
IN TWO WORDS SOMETIMES ON A
DAILY BASIS. THESE TRAFFICKERS
ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS WHO ARE
PREYING ON OUR CHILDREN ONE
EXAMPLE OF TRAFFICKING FOR MY
DISTRICT IS QABAN RICHARDSON. HE
TRAFFICKED A FIFTEEN YEAR OLD
GIRL FROM ORANGE COUNTY IN TWO
THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN WAS
SENTENCED TO EIGHT YEARS IN
PRISON AND GOT OUT AFTER SERVING
LESS THAN FOUR. AS SOON AS HE
GOT OUT HE TARGETED CHILDREN
AGAIN HE WAS ARRESTED AND
PROSECUTED FOR SIMULTANEOUSLY
COMMERCIAL EXPLICIT CRIPPLING IN
ADULTS AND THREE MINORS. IN HIS
VICTIMS RANGED FROM AGES FROM
FOURTEEN TO TWENTY. COLLEAGUES I
HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE HERE
TODAY THAT REPEATEDLY SELLING
CHILDREN FOR SEX FORCING THEM TO
BE RAPED OVER AND OVER AGAIN
SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A SERIOUS
FELONY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. PASSING S. B.
FOURTEEN JUST WOULD SERVE TO
PROTECT FUTURE GENERATIONS BY
STOPPING PEOPLE FROM ENGAGING IN
THIS CRIME TODAY. SB FOURTEEN
HAS RECEIVED OVER SEVENTY
SUPPORT LETTERS FROM HUMAN
TRAFFICKING NONPROFITS DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS. FROM TRIBAL
COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THE TULE
RIVER TRIBE IN ORDER AN
ORGANIZATION SUCH AS VETERANS
FOR CHILD RESCUE NATIONAL
ORGANIZATIONS. THAT NOTE THAT SB
FOURTEEN THE INCLUDE THE CENTER
OF MISSING AND EXPLOITED
CHILDREN FOUNDED BY JOHN WALSH
THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION. CRIMES BIG DID
UNITED ALLIANCE FOR FAMILIES
AGAINST VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL
ASSAULT AND CHILDREN'S ADVOCATES
CITIES CITY SKEWS ME CENTERS OF
CALIFORNIA. AS WELL AS WOMEN TO
WOMEN WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION
THAT SUPPORTS FORMALLY
INCARCERATED WOMEN. IN LATE LAST
NIGHT WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM
THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING TWENTY
NINE THOUSAND MEMBERS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA SUPPORTING
THIS BILL. IN ADDITION MY OFFICE
HAS RECEIVED OVER ONE THOUSAND
THREE HUNDRED INDIVIDUAL LETTERS
OF SUPPORT FROM EVERY DAY
CALIFORNIANS THAT WANT TO SEE
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. OF A CHILD
PROPERLY CLASSIFIED AS A SERIOUS
FELONY. I AM HONORED TO HAVE
THREE STRANDS GLOBAL FOUNDATION
IS THE SPONSOR OF SB FOURTEEN
TODAY. THREE STANCE FIGHTS EVERY
DAY TO IN THE HORRENDOUS
PRACTICE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
AND PROTECTS SURVIVORS OF THIS
YEAR PERFECT CRYING.
CALIFORNIANS FROM ACROSS THE
STATE HAVE SHARED THEIR PERSONAL
STORIES AND FORCE AND VOICE
THEIR SUPPORT OF S. B. FOURTEEN
BUT HERE WITH ME TO TESTIFY
DIRECTLY ARE TWO EXPERTS IN
HUMAN TRAFFICKING FIELD. MY
FIRST WITNESS IS IN HUMAN
TRAFFICKING WORLD IS FORMER
ALAMEDA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
NANCY O'MALLEY. FORMER DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IN THE VALLEYS OFFICES
PROSECUTED MORE THAN EIGHT
HUNDRED HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASES
THE MAJORITY OF WHICH HAVE
INVOLVED A MINOR FEMALE VICTIMS.
DEAL IS THE FOUNDER OF THE HUMAN
EXPLOITATION AND TRAFFICKING
INSTITUTE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
HEAT. ADDITIONALLY TO SHINE A
LIGHT ON THIS ISSUE WITH THE
FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE MY SECOND
WITNESSES AN INCREDIBLE ADVOCATE
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVOR.
MISBRANDED WILLIAMS MISS
WILLIAMS WAS NOT ONLY TRAFFICKED
AS A CHILD BUT SHE ALSO LOST HER
BEAUTIFUL SISTER TO TRAFFICKING
AS WELL. D. O. MALLEY. THANK YOU
AND GOOD MORNING. I HAVE
RECENTLY RETIRED AS THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY BUT I'M STILL INVOLVED
IN THE WORK. COMBATING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. HUMAN TRAFFICKING
OCCURS WHEN THERE IS INVOLUNTARY
SERVITUDE OR WHAT WE HAD NOW
CALMLY CALL MODERN DAY
TRAFFICKING OR SLAVERY. THOSE
ARE TERMS USED BY PRESIDENT
OBAMA AND PRESIDENT BIDEN WHEN
THEY DECLARED JANUARY HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH. IN
MY THIRTY NINE YEAR CAREER I
KNOW THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS
ONE OF THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE
CRIMES THAT EXIST IN THIS WORLD
. DESTRUCTIVE TO THE PSYCHE FOR
SURE AND FOR SURE TO THE BODIES
OF SEX TRAFFICKING VICTIMS.
WHILE ALL FIFTY SIX STATES HAVE
NOW REPORTED HUMAN TRAFFICKING
CALIFORNIA AND PARTICULARLY THE
BAY AREA. LOS ANGELES AND SAN
DIEGO ARE HOT SPOTS ACCORDING TO
THE FBI STATISTICS. WE SEE
VICTIMS COMING BEING BROUGHT
HERE FROM LOS ANGELES PRIMARILY
TO OAKLAND THEY'RE BETWEEN THE
AGES OF FIFTEEN AND TWENTY ONE
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT CITY
THEY'RE IN. THEY DON'T HAVE A
REACHED COURT RECORDS TO GET
AWAY FROM THE TRAFFICKER.
RESEARCH SHOWS US THAT. THERE
THE PERCENTAGE OF TRAFFIC
VICTIMS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE ARE
PEOPLE OF COLOR. AND
PARTICULARLY IN THE BAY AREA LOS
ANGELES AND SAN DIEGO ACCORDING
TO THE STATISTICS THE HIGHEST
PERCENTAGE OF TRAFFIC VICTIMS
ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN GIRLS.
RESEARCH ALSO SHOWS THAT THE
HIGH PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN AND
SOME MEN ARE BROUGHT HERE FROM
THE UNITE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
WITH THE PROMISE OF THE JUDGE
JOB BUT WHEN THEY GET HERE
THEY'RE ME THAT WE PUT INTO.
SERVITUDE AND ARE FORCED TO
EITHER WORK IN LABOR WITHOUT PAY
OR THEY ARE FORCED INTO THE
HUMAN TRAFFICKING SEX
TRAFFICKING. WE'RE NOW LOOKING
CLOSELY RESEARCH THROUGH THE
HEAT INSTITUTE AND OTHER BODIES
OF RESEARCH LOOKING AT HIGH
INCIDENTS OF DISAPPEARANCE OF
FIRST NATION. OR NATIVE AMERICAN
GIRLS ARE DISAPPEARING AT
ALARMING RATE TO INDICATE
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE LINKED
TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING WE BELIEVE
IT'S TRUE. READY TO THE SAN
DIEGO STUDY THERE WAS AND THEY
IDENTIFIED A MINIMUM OF ALMOST
TWO THOUSAND VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IN ONE YEAR IN SAN
DIEGO COUNTY. AND THE AVERAGE
AGE OF ENTRY FOR THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WAS FOURTEEN TO
FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. THE STUDY
ALSO FOUND THAT THE UNDERGROUND
SEX TRADE A KANEMI THE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS AN ESTIMATED
EIGHT HUNDRED AND TEN MILLION
DOLLARS IN ANNUAL REVENUE. IN
THE TWENTY SIX YEARS SINCE I'VE
BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE AS
SENATOR BREAUX SAID- I HAVE
EITHER PROSECUTED OR SUPERVISE
PROSECUTION OF NOW EIGHT HUNDRED
AND FIFTY HUMAN TRAFFICKING
CASES. THERE'S A COMMONALITY
AMONGST TRAFFICKERS AND THIS IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE DOCTOR THE
REQUEST THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
BE IDENTIFIED AS A SERIOUS
FELONY UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW. THE
COMMONALITY IS THAT THE ACT
INVOLVES SEVERE PSYCHOLOGICAL
MANIPULATION. IT IS THERE IS
INTENSE PHYSICAL ABUSE. THERE IS
TORTURE USED BY TRAFFICKERS TO
GAIN COMPLIANCE OF THE VICTIM.
OFTENTIMES WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS
THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MEN BROUGHT
INTO GANG RAPE THE VICTIM TO GET
HER INTO COMPLIANCE BEFORE THAT
SHE'S PUT OUT ON THE STREET OR
ON THE INTERNET. TRAFFICKERS
JANUARY MOVE THEIR VICTIMS FROM
A PLACE OF FAMILIARITY. SO EVEN
IF THEY WANTED TO ESCAPE THEY
COULD NOT JUST AS WE'VE SEEN IN
OAKLAND. GENERALLY SPEAKING
TRAFFICKERS HAVE A LACK OF CARE
OR COMPASSION OR CONCERN FOR THE
VICTIMS AND ARE USING THEM
SOLELY FOR FINANCIAL GAIN. HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS ONE OF THE MOST
EGREGIOUS CRIMES INFLICTED ON
THE MOST VULNERABLE VICTIMS IN
OUR SOCIETY. AND I URGE YOU TO
VOTE YES ON THIS BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU'RE JUST
AROUND THE TWO MINUTE MARKS
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. NOW WE'RE
HERE FOR MISS WILLIAMS. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS BRIANNA
WILLIAMS. I AM A SURVIVOR OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING HERE IN
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. I STAND HERE
TODAY TO EXPRESS MY UNWAVERING
SUPPORT FOR SB FOURTEEN. THIS
BILL IS NOT JUST A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. AT THE BACKING OF
HOPE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN
VICTIMIZED BY HUMAN TRAFFICKING
. IT IS A TESTAMENT TO OUR
COLLECTIVE COMMITMENT TO
PROTECTING THE POWER THE MOST
VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR
SOCIETY. DURING MY CHILDHOOD AS
A TEEN AS A YOUNG TEEN I WAS
TRAFFIC THROUGH OUTSIDE I AM
VERY THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. I
WAS BEATEN AND BRUTALIZED BY MY
TRAFFICKER ON DAILY BASIS AND
SUFFERED UNIMAGINABLE PHYSICAL
AND EMOTIONAL TRAUMA. AFTER MIKE
SCAPE I DID NOT GIVE UP. THE
FIGHT BACK WITH ALL MY MIGHT AND
WITH THE HELP OF SEVERAL PEOPLE
INCLUDING MY MOM AND
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE LOVE NEVER
FAILS. I MANAGE SIX GIVE THE
CLUTCHES OF MY TORMENTOR. I AM
NOW THE OWNER OF TWO BUSINESSES
MY WIFE MISSION IS TO ADVOCATE
FOR OTHERS. MY STORY IS A
TESTAMENT TO RESILIENCE OF HUMAN
OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT. WHAT IS
ALSO START A STARK REMINDER OF
THE HORRORS OF SEX TRAFFICKING.
WE CANNOT TURN A BLIND EYE TO
THE SCORCH THE PLAGUE THE
SOCIETY. WE MUST TAKE ACTION TO
PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING TIME
AND TIME AGAIN BY THE SAME
PERPETRATORS. YESTERDAY WAS ALSO
THE ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE
TRAGIC DEATH MY LITTLE SISTER.
THAT IS SHAKING MY FAMILY TO ITS
CORE AND THIS IS MY LITTLE
SISTER. MY LOTUS MY TWENTY THREE
YEAR OLD LITTLE SISTER BLAIRE
MOSTLY WITH ALSO SEX TRAFFICKED.
MACARTHUR TO HAVE A MENTAL
BREAK. AFTER TRAFFICKERS AND
AFTER HER TRAFFIC- AND OTHERS
HAVE BRUTALLY RAPED HER. SHE
TURNED TO A CHILDLIKE STATE AND
ON APRIL TWENTY FOURTH TWENTY
TWENTY TWO GEN ONLY WALKED INTO
I. FIVE HIGHWAY HERE IN
SACRAMENTO IT WAS STRUCK AND
KILLED BY A CAR. THERE WAS ONE
OF THE MOST AMAZING PEOPLE I
KNOW. SHE HAD DREAMS TO BECOME
AN ATTORNEY. AN OPEN RESTORATION
HOME FOR THE ANIMALS. THIS
TRAGEDY IS A STARK REMINDER.
THAT THE DEVASTATING IMPACT OF
SEX TRAFFICKING CAN HAVE ON
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES. AS A
REMINDER THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD
TO BE COMPLACENT. WE MUST DO
EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO
PREVENT SUCH HAVE TRAGEDIES FROM
HAPPENING AGAIN. SO I URGE YOU
TO SUPPORT SB FORTY. LET US IN A
CLEAR MESSAGE. THAT WE WILL NOT
TOLERATE THE TRAFFICKING IN OUR
STATE. LET US STAND TOGETHER IN
SOLIDARITY WITH THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN VICTIMIZED AND LET US WORK
TOGETHER FOR A BRIGHTER. FUTURE
FOR ALL THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MISS RYAN'S. WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF SB FOURTEEN HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED PLEASE.
ASHLEY BRYANT CEO THREE STRANDS
GLOBAL FOR AN EXAMINATION
SUPPORT. ODESSA PERKINS IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOURTEEN LASTED
BEFORE YOU GUYS LAST YEAR AS THE
WITNESS LETTING YOU KNOW THAT I
AM ALSO A SURVIVOR OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING MY MOTHER TRAFFIC TO
BE SOLD THIS CRIME. AFFECTS
EVERYONE WE HAVE TO PASS SB
FOURTEEN IN ORDER FOR OUR
CHILDREN TO BE SAFE. THANK YOU.
HI I'M JENNA MCKAY WITH SENATOR
GROSS OFFICE AND I'M ALSO A
SURVIVOR OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
AND STILL DEAL WITH THE TRAUMA
THAT WAS- PUT ON ME PHYSICALLY
AND MENTALLY. MY SUPPORT SB
FOURTEEN THING. VENTURE MEMBERS
RANDY PERRY ON BEHALF OF POOR I
CAN A HIGHWAY PATROL SUBSTATION
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS DARLENE BEEN
ASSIGNED. A LICENSE MARRIAGE AND
FAMILY THERAPIST WITH NO
INTERNATIONAL AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FOURTEEN. THANK YOU.
HI GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU
I'M HERE LAST YEAR ALSO TO I'M A
PARENT- WHO CHILD WAS TRAFFIC
AND I WILL PUT PARENTS AND EVERY
DAY I SEE CHILDREN I HAVE SEEN
THE CHILD WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE
BECAUSE AFRICA. CONTINUE TO
FOLLOW HER ANOTHER CHILD WAS
TAKEN FROM SOMEONE A TROPICAL
WENT INTO THE HOUSE AND THEN
ANOTHER TO GO OUT I'M SORRY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME I KNEW
AND I BLESSING YOU GUYS ARE
SERVANTS OF THE LORD. MAY JUST
HAVE YOU DONE THANK YOU- LET ME
JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT AT
THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO BE
TAKING WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
SB FOURTEEN BUT IT'S THE ME TOO
SO IT'S JUST YOUR NAME. YOUR
POSITION IN THE ORGANIZATION.
THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING PLEASE
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING DA SILVA
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. TURN MEMBERS JONATHON FELDMAN
WITH THE CALIFORNIA POLICE
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING- READ
THE PERKINS I'M A REGISTERED
VOTER FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE NOT
POLITICS I SUPPORT SB FOURTEEN
THANK THANK YOU MA'AM. MY NAME
IS FAITH HE WITH HELPING US AND
ANTI HUMAN TRAFFICKING
ORGANIZATION TIME AND SUPPORTS.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LAURA FOX
AND I'M WITH THE JANET MCCABE
FOUNDATION I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL THANK YOU. MARJORY
SAILOR SURVIVOR OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING FROM SAN DIEGO
COUNTY DIRECTOR CLIENT SERVICES
ALABASTER JAR PROJECT. AND I
SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU.
PAMELA ON BEHALF OF THE TULE
RIVER TRIBE IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU FLASHING IMPACT COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATION ALSO REPRESENT A
PROJECT TAKEN STRONG SUPPORT OF.
FOURTEEN THANK YOU. SHAY FRANCO
CLAUSEN ALAMEDA COUNTY OAKLAND
RESIDENTS- AND IN SUPPORT OF
THIS AS A SURVIVOR OF SEX
TRAFFICKING. THANK YOU. AERION
ADAM TO COVER SAN FRANCISCO
RESIDENT FRIEND OF TWO MOTHERS
OF A DAUGHTER WHO IS SEXUALLY
TRAFFICKED OUT OF HER HOME IN
SAN FRANCISCO ALSO A HIGH SCHOOL
TEACHER OF MARGINALIZED SEXUALLY
TRAFFICKED YOUNG STUDENTS. AND I
SUPPORT. FOURTEEN WELL IN FROM-
FAIRFIELD CALIFORNIA I'M STRONG
SUPPORTER OF SB FOURTEEN. THANK
YOU. I'M JOHN BARNETT I'M FROM
FAIRFIELD CALIFORNIA I LIVE SAN
FRANCISCO. I PRESENTING LOVING
THROUGH HIS EYES NONPROFIT FOR
SEX TRAFFICKING CONSULTED I'M
SUPPORTIVE SB FORTY THANK YOU.
MORNING MANAGER MEMBERS ALSO OF
THE STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING LISA DESSE
BRO INFORM PARENTS OF CONTRA
COSTA COUNTY AND CALVARY CHAPEL
CHINO HILL IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. GOOD MORNING EMILY SANDERS
SURVIVOR FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF CONNECTED CHANGE AND
SUPPORTERS SB FOURTEEN THANK YOU
. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
MERRIAM SAM I MEAN YOU CAN
IMMIGRANT FROM EGYPT WHERE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS A BUSINESS IT'S
ABOUT TIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THIS ARE
SHALL YOUR INTO SMILES ARE ON OF
SUPERVISOR MCCARTY ACCOUNTS AND
CAL AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS INCURRING THE
PARTICIPATION. BOARD THANK YOU
THANK YOU. HI I'M DOCTOR AND
WILL LOOK I WORK FOR TOP
PROTECTIVE SERVICES IN KERN
COUNTY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
STILL. HELLO KATRINA GARCIA A
HUMAN TRAFFICKING LIAISON FOR
KERN COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENT
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL
FOURTEEN. THANK YOU. ERIN FRIDAY
OF OUR DUTY LICENSE ATTORNEY IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALI SNYDER
CONCERNED PARENT IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU MICHELLE CONNOR
CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SO
FEEL LAURIE WITH YOUNG ONE FOR
AMERICA AS WELL AS APPROACHED BY
SEX TRAFFICKERS WHILE I WAS IN
COLLEGE IN ORANGE COUNTY IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. RIVER
WITH THE CALIFORNIA FAMILY
COUNCIL IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. TAWDRY BE AMADOR COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. PASTOR BRANDON
CAMPBELL FIFTH BAPTIST CHURCH IN
WHEATLAND IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
CAPITOL CONNECTION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. SKYTEAM PASTOR OF- MY
RECAP THIS CHURCH WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FOURTEEN. THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OF SB FOURTEEN YEAR
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEEING
NONE. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN OUR POSITION- LEAD
WHICH IS IN OPPOSITION FOR SB
FOURTEEN. GOOD MORNING LESLIE
CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION I'M ASKING TO YIELD
MY TWO MINUTES TO SISTER WORDS
COALITION FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR
MINUTES TO THEM. OKAY THANK YOU
. GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE IN
CHAIR MY NAME IS EMILY WONDER
AND I'M READING THE STATEMENT ON
BEHALF OF APRIL GRAYSON WHO IS
CURRENTLY PROVIDING TESTIMONY IN
ANOTHER COMMITTEE. APRIL IS A
POLICY ASSOCIATE FOR THE SISTER
WORRIERS FREEDOM COALITION AND
MEMBER OF NUMEROUS ANTI
TRAFFICKING ADVISORY BOARDS FOR
COMMERCIALLY SEXUALLY EXPLOITED
CHILDREN AND ADULTS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA. SHE IS ALSO A
SURVIVOR OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
AND SHE READ THE STATEMENT IN
OPPOSITION SB FOURTEEN. SB
FOURTEEN PASSES HUMAN
TRAFFICKING WILL BECOME A STRIKE
BILL OFFENSE WITH HARSHER
SENTENCES AND LIFELONG
CONSEQUENCES. AS A SURVIVOR
APRIL CAN SEE THE POSITIVE
INTENT OF THIS BILL. HOWEVER AS
A SURVIVOR WHO HAS BEEN
CRIMINALIZED AND DEMONIZED BY
THE LEGAL SYSTEM THAT WAS MEANT
TO PROTECT HER SHE ASKED ME TO
REMIND THE AUTHORS IN THIS
COMMITTEE BUT THIS BILL WILL
ACTIVELY HARM MANY SURVIVORS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. ESPECIALLY
THE BLACK BROWN NATIVE POOR
LGBTQ WOMEN ENTRANCE SURVIVORS
WHO ARE ALREADY LEAST LIKELY TO
SEE JUSTICE. APRIL WAS BORN INTO
THE CPS SYSTEM AND IS TOUCHED
EVERY SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA HAS
TO OFFER. AFTER SHE WAS KICKED
OUT OF THE SYSTEM EIGHTEEN SHE
WAS TRAFFICKED. AT NINETEEN SHE
WAS CRIMINALIZED BY THE COURT
SYSTEM MADE OUT TO BE THE
PERPETRATOR AND THE MASTERMIND
OF THE CRIME THAT SHE WAS ALSO
THE VICTIM OF. SHE WAS SENTENCED
TO TWENTY YEARS AND EIGHT
MONTHS. AT THAT TIME THE CHARGES
WERE PIMPING AND PANDERING BUT
IF SHE HAD BEEN SENTENCED TODAY
SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. SHE SERVED
SEVENTEEN YEARS IN STATE PRISON
WHERE SHE RECEIVED NO REFERRAL
TO HEALING OR REHABILITATIVE
SERVICES. SHE WAS CONSIDERED A
VIOLENT FELON AND HAD TO
REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.
APRIL WAS NEVER SEEN AS A VICTIM
OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING SHE WAS
ONLY SEEN AS PERPETRATOR EVEN
THOUGH SHE WAS NINETEEN. AND HER
TWENTY SEVEN YEAR OLD TRAFFICKER
WAS SITTING NEXT TO HER IN
COURT. HE WAS NEVER IDENTIFIED
AS A TRAFFICKER LET ALONE HER
TRAFFICKER AND WAS NEVER
CONVICTED OF ANY TRAFFICKING OR
PIMPING CHARGES. APRIL IS NOT A
UNIQUE CASE. NOT ADDRESSED IN
THIS COMMITTEES AND BILL
ANALYSIS IS THE HORRIFYING
REALITY THAT OVER 90% OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS. ARE
CRIMINALIZED WHILE BEING
TRAFFICKED INCLUDING MANY WHO
HAVE HUMAN TRAFFICKING CHARGES
INSTEAD OF THEIR TRAFFICKER. WE
NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM IS NOT
EQUIPPED TO RECOGNIZE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS. ESPECIALLY
YOUNG WOMEN AND TRANS FOLKS OF
COLOR WHO ARE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION. OUR CURRENT LAWS
FAIL TO PROVIDE JUDGES AND
JURIES WITH THE INFORMATION
NECESSARY TO HELP THEM IDENTIFY
VICTIMS. SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO FIX AND ANOTHER BILL
BEING HEARD IN THE ASSEMBLY
TODAY. IF SB FOURTEEN PASSES
CRIMINALIZED SURVIVORS WILL BE
SUBJECTED TO PUNISHMENTS THAT
WILL BE DOUBLED OR ESCALATED TO
A LIFE SENTENCE UNDER THREE
STRIKES. IN MANY CASES DOUBLE
JUST FOR LOW LEVEL OFFENSES THAT
ARE NOT SERIOUS OR VIOLENT. AND
PROSECUTING THE SURVIVORS WILL
NOT STOP TRAFFICKING FROM
HAPPENING SINCE THE SURVIVORS
ARE EASILY REPLACED BY THEIR
TRAFFICKERS. EVEN WITH THE
RECENT AMENDMENTS TO THIS BILL
THERE ARE STILL MANY SURVIVORS
WHO WOULD FALL THROUGH THE
CRACKS AND FACE FURTHER
PUNISHMENT AND TRAUMA. SURVIVORS
LIKE APRIL. THIS BILL WILL HAVE
SEVERE COLLATERAL NEGATIVE
CONSEQUENCES FOR VICTIMS AND
SURVIVORS THIS IS NOT THE
SOLUTION. THE SOLUTION IS TO
PROPERLY INVESTIGATE CASES
PROVIDE HEALING RESOURCES AND
PREVENT FURTHER HARM AGAIN
SURVIVORS BY THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM. UNTIL WE CAN PROTECT
VICTIMS FROM A REST WE MUST NOT
PASS LAWS THAT WILL FURTHER HARM
THEM THEIR FAMILIES AND OUR
COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE TO STOP
CREATING BILLS THAT DON'T
ADDRESS THE NUANCES OF THE
SITUATION OR WE WILL CONTINUE TO
HURT VULNERABLE TRAUMATIZED
VICTIMS. WE INTIMATELY
UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS AND WE RECOGNIZE
WHAT SENATOR GROWTH AND CO
AUTHORS ARE TRYING TO DO WITH
THIS BILL. BUT UNTIL WE CAN
SUCCESSFULLY IDENTIFY VICTIMS
AND PROVIDE THEM SUPPORT AND
RELIEF WE CANNOT BE IN SUPPORT
OF SB FOURTEEN. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE JUST HEARD
FROM OUR LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB FOURTEEN WILL
NOW CONTINUE TO WITH WITNESSES-
IN OPPOSITION TO IT. SB FOURTEEN
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
. LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR
THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO
SB FOURTEEN HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES BOTH IN
SUPPORT IN AND OPPOSITION B. R.
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE- AND- AS
A REMINDER PLEASE- ALL THE
WITNESSES TESTIFYING VIA
TELECONFERENCE YOU ARE TO STATE.
YOUR NAME YOUR POSITION AND THE
ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE
REPRESENTING. A MISTER MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE QUEUE UP THE
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB FOURTEEN AND
WILL CONTINUE. THANK YOU VENTURE
IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB FOURTEEN.
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO THIS TIME AND FALL BY ZERO.
AND WE WILL BEGIN TO FIND ONE
EIGHTY SIX YOU ARE OPEN. NINE
ONE EIGHTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I THINK YOU JUST TOOK THE STUFF
I THINK YOU GO IN IT ONE ZERO
AGAIN ONE EIGHTY SIX AND I WILL
GET BACK ON WILL GO TO ONE
TWENTY THREE. HI GOOD MORNING
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE HEARINGS INVOLVED AS
ON BEHALF OF MAYOR KAREN GOH IN
THE CITY OF BAKERSFIELD IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB FOURTEEN
THANK YOU. I TWENTY SIX PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THE MANAGER SHE- VICE
CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF
ORANGE COUNTY FOR TEN YEARS IN
PRISON AND UP THAT. FAST
PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL
WOMEN'S POLITICAL CAUCUS OF
ORANGE COUNTY AND THE NEWPORT
BEACH WHEN DEMOCRATIC CLUB.
FOUNDER AND I GOT INVOLVED. A
LOT AND APPLIES YOU. I STRONGLY
. THIS BILL. ONLINE ONE SIX
EIGHT YOU ARE OPEN. SEVENTEEN ON
BEHALF OF INITIATOR. AND RESPECT
FOR. THANK YOU. NINE ONE
NINETEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING THIS IS JODY THING
CALLING ON THE BEHALF OF SAN
DIEGO COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
SUMMER. FOUR OF THE BILL THANK
YOU. ONE THIRTY NINE EUROPE. MY
NAME INTERIM THEN THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY RESIDENTS AND I
AM STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF. MY
ONE NINETY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HELLO MY NAME IS EASIER DELEON
I AM CONTAMINATING OF COUNTY AND
I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB
FOURTEEN. MEDIA I AM TWENTY
THREE YOU ARE OPEN. MEANING A
DORDOGNE VOLUNTEER WAS SHEPHERD
THINKING CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AND
STUDENT OF GOD AND GOVERNMENT
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB ONE
FOURTEEN I MEAN SORRY SB
FOURTEEN. NINE THIRTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I THINK THIRTY
NINE TOOK HIMSELF BUT IF YOU
WILL- CORE LINE FIFTY FIVE. YES
MONICA COBOTS I'M THE CHAIR OF
THE BRIDGE OF LIGHT AND A HUMAN
TRAFFIC MINISTRY STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT. ONE NINETY TWO YOU ARE
OPEN. MAMLUK PART CALIFORNIA
SUPPORT SB ONE FOURTEEN. ONE
THIRTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
CHANGE TEXT THE CULTURE BY RIVER
IN HEARING I STRONGLY SUPPORT.
YOU ARE OPEN NINE TO TEN TO TEN.
DOMENIC HAYDN BAKERSFIELD
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. NINE TWO
HUNDRED SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO IS IT ME. PLEASE GO AHEAD
YES. OKAY MORNING. THANK YOU
MERRY LITTLE KERN COUNTY TRUSTEE
I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT HIM VOTE
FOR IT THANK YOU. FINALLY NINETY
NINE PLEASE AHEAD. AND MARIE
VIEGAS MOTHER OF FOUR SACRAMENTO
COUNTY RESIDENT I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FOURTEEN THANK YOU.
NINE ONE TEN YOU ARE OPEN. MANY
CHRISTIAN BAKERSFIELD
CALIFORNIA. I AM ORDERS. MINET
UNLESS. I'M SORRY AT ALL THANK
YOU. MY NINETEENTH PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANKS OF THE CHILDREN
AND FAMILY PASTOR IN BUTTE
COUNTY FOR THE CHURCH OF THE
NAZARENE AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
SB FOURTEEN. I NEED YOU TO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I NEEDED TO.
ARE YOU MUTED. ONE MORE SHOT
LINE EIGHTY TWO. I'M MOVING
ALONG LINE ONE NINETY ONE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. AND THAT JUGGLING
COUNTY VOTER AND I STRONGLY THE
FOURTEENTH. NINE FIFTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING MY
NAME IS AMY TO CAROLINE THE
FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE NONPROFIT WOMAN TO WOMAN
AND WE ADVOCATE FOR THE
INCARCERATED I STRONGLY SUPPORT
SB ONE FOUR THANK YOU. ONE
NINETY SIX YOU ARE OPEN. OPENING
OF MELANIE DON JUAN ELOQUENTLY
BY MANAGER JOHN A CLIENT. LINE
SIXTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
NINE SIXTY THREE ARE YOU MUTED.
PLEASE GO AHEAD LINE SIXTY THREE
. I WILL GO TO LINE CAN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I'M CATHERINE CLARK
AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
AND I'M IN LA COUNTY. ONE ONE
NINETY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS CYNTHIA TAMARA AND I'M
THE COORDINATOR FOR PROJECT
RESCUE IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY
THIRD. AND CANYON HILLS ASSEMBLY
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB
FOURTEEN THANK YOU. EIGHTY SIX
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO I
REPRESENT IT DOES FORM OF
CALIFORNIA WE ALL STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. ONE NINETY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME CLOSER I AM AN EFFECTIVE
CRITICAL WORKER AND ONLY COUNTY
JOHN APART AT THE CELL. ONE
FIFTY FOUR GOING. HI MY NAME IS
CHRIS DELTA I'M A LOT RATHER AND
I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB FOURTEEN.
LINE THIRTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HI MY NAME BIG **** FROM WHAT
ANGELES CA THAT IT AND A FRIEND
THAT. AND I STRONG SUPPORT AS
PEOPLE. MY NINETY EIGHT YOU ARE
OPEN. I NINETY EIGHT ARE YOU
MUTED. YEAH GO AHEAD MY. NINETY
EIGHT. WILL MOVE ON THE LINE
FIFTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO MY NAME IS STEPHANIE
JENSEN I AM A FORMER SEX
TRAFFICKING VICTIM AND I'M FROM
OAKLAND COUNTY AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. ONE EIGHTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE EIGHTY
SIX WE ARE BACK TO YOU PLEASE GO
AHEAD YEAH HELLO GOOD MORNING
CAN YOU HEAR ME. YES I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL AT B. ONE ONE
FOUR. LINE ONE THIRTY EIGHT YOUR
OPEN. I AM ONE THIRTY EIGHT
PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE'LL TRY LINE
TO SEVENTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HEALTHY MCCOY BAKERSFIELD
CALIFORNIA STRONG SUPPORT FOR
THIS BILL. YOU ARE OPEN LINE
EIGHT. IF THE CLIP **** HI FOR
KIDS BILL FROM LA. PLEASE GO
AHEAD LINE. FIFTY THREE. I FIFTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. CAN YOU
HEAR ME YES CAPORALI L. A.
COUNTY VOTER AND I SUPPORT. MY
THIRTY SIX YOU ARE OPEN. IF
ANYTHING HUMAN TRAFFICKING
PROSECUTOR IN SUPPORT OF SB
FOURTEEN. LINE TWO EIGHTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GREG RANG UP
WITH THE ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT IN SUPPORT OF TWO
EIGHTEEN DRUG OF THIS
LEGISLATION. NINE TWENTY FOUR
YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD MORNING MY
NAME IS DR DOUG BENNETT IN
BAKERSFIELD CALIFORNIA I'M A
FORMER BUYER OF HUMAN BEINGS AND
NOT HAVE TO THE SEX TRAFFICKING
VICTIMS I AM THE FOUNDER OF
MADELINE OPEN AND BEEN FIGHTING
SEX TRAFFICKING GROUP FOR TWO
YEARS AND FOUNDER OF THE STATE
HOUSE TO OPEN IT CALIFORNIA TWO
THOUSAND THIRTEEN. RESTORATION
RANCH WHEN THE SHELTER IN STRONG
SUPPORT SB FORTY. I AM THIRTY
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. NINE
THIRTY NINE YOU ARE OPEN. ARE
YOU MUTED LINE THIRTY NINE. WILL
MOVE ON THE LINE ONE SEVENTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. NINE ONE
SEVENTY FOUR. PLEASE ON MUTE.
NINE ONE TWENTY FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES JULIA INNER CITY
PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER I SUPPORT
THIS. MY ONE FORTY SEVEN YOU ARE
OPEN. NINE ONE FORTY SEVEN.
HELLO YOU ARE OPEN. HI MY NAME
IS MARGIE GARCIA I'M FROM EL
DORADO COUNTY I'M A MENTAL
HEALTH WORKER AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB. FOURTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD LINE ONE THIRTY. I AM ONE
THIRTY ARE YOU MUTED. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. HE. WE CAN HEAR YOU I
ONE THIRTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. I
WILL TRY LINE TO TWENTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. EITHER CALLING
ON BEHALF OF INITIATE JUSTICE
ACTION RESPECTFULLY IN
OPPOSITION. WE'RE GLAD GIVE A
FINAL REMINDER ONE ZERO IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
US SENATE BILL FOURTEEN NINE TWO
TWENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
JULIE MAY I AM IN SUPPORT OF S.
B. FOURTEENS. TWO THIRTY ONE
YEAR YOU ARE OPEN. HI MY NAME IS
SHANNON HEIL AND I'M WITH
PLASTER COUNTY MOM FOR LIBERTY
AND I SUPPORT THE BILL SB
FOURTEEN THANK YOU. LINE ONE
EIGHTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
WITH THE PENNY MARTINEZ SOME
WITH THE BAKERSFIELD REPUBLICAN
WOMEN FEDERATED ON THE CURRENT-
CARING FOR AMERICA PROGRAM CHAIR
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT SB
FOURTEEN THANK YOU. ONE THIRTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOUR LARA
BOXFORD FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF WITH HIM IN A
NATIONAL AND MEMBER OF THE
FRANCISCO COLLABORATIVE AGAINST
HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THE MARIN
COUNTY COALITION AGAINST HUMAN
TRAFFICKING WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL. TWO FORTY TO YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. THIS IS KATHLEEN
BARTON REPRESENTING CONCERNED
WOMEN FOR AMERICA AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB. FOURTEEN LINE ONE
THIRTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. I AM ONE
THIRTY YOU ARE OPEN. IN THE
HEARING ROOM CAN YOU COUNTY
STRONGLY SUPPORT. ONE TO THIRTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME'S
MATTHEW MARTIN REPRESENTING
CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND KERN COUNTY JEFF
FLORES IN STRONG SUPPORT OF S.
B. PORTING. LINE TWO FORTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I TO FORTY
SEVEN ARE YOU MUTED. ONE MORE
SHOT LINE TO FORTY SEVEN. WE'LL
GOAL- TO LINE TO FIFTY PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS JAMIE
MARIA. I'M CALLING SB. FIVE
NINETY SIX. ONE ONE FORTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO. YOUR
OPEN HELLO. HI MY NAME IS MARGIE
GARCIA FROM EL DORADO COUNTY I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB FOURTEEN.
ONE ONE NINETY FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO. MORNING COURSE
TOMORROW MY NAME IS JEAN COMPARE
AND I SUPPORT YOU. MADAM CHAIR
WE I DID THROUGH THE WONDERFUL
THING YOU VERY MUCH MR MY FOR
YOUR- WE WANT TO THANK ALL OUR
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION THAT CAME IN PERSON
AND TOOK THE TIME TO PARTICIPATE
FOR THE OUR TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE- WILL NOW BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO THE DYESS-
CENTER SKINNER. THANK YOU MADAM
VICE CHAIR. SENATOR APPRECIATE
YOUR- NOT ONLY PASSION ABOUT
THIS ISSUE RICHARD DEDICATION TO
IT. AND WHILE ARM. AS A MEMBER
OF THE COMMITTEE WE ARE NOT
SUPPORTIVE OF THE BILL IN ITS-
IN THE FORM THAT YOU PRESENTED
PREVIOUSLY. I'M VERY
APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR- ACCEPTING
THE AMENDMENTS AND I DO
APPRECIATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE
IT TO GO FARTHER. BUT I THINK
THE- THE POINTS MADE BY THE- THE
WITNESS IN OPPOSITION WHO IS
HERSELF A SURVIVOR THAT COULD.
AND I KNEW IT WOULD NEVER BE
INTENTIONAL BUT WHERE AN ACTUAL
VICTIM OF TRAFFICKING COULD END
UP BEING PROSECUTED AND A THIRD
STRIKE TYPE OF CIRCUMSTANCE
AROUND THEIR OWN VICTIMIZATION.
AND YOU KNOW I THINK IT DOESN'T-
HEY YOU KNOW IT'S ONLY BEEN
RECENTLY THAT WE EVEN. BEGAN TO
TREAT UNDER AGE GIRLS WHO WERE
INVOLVED IN COMMERCIAL SEX-
TRADE. HASN'T THE VICTIMS VERSUS
THE ACTUAL CRIMINALS IT'S ONLY
BEEN RECENTLY AND SO THE FACT
THAT WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE FACT
THAT ANY PERSON. UNDER EIGHTEEN
WHO IS IN COMMERCIAL SEX TRADE
IS ABSOLUTELY BEEN EXPLOITED IS
ABSOLUTELY THE VICTIM AND IS THE
SOMEONE ELSE IS EXPLAINING THEM
THIS IS NOT A CHOICE THAT THEY
MAKE. AND SO- I APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO MODIFY THE BILL
AND AGAIN I ALSO APPRECIATED
LIKE TO GO FURTHER BUT I'M
WILLING TO SUPPORT IT WITH ITS
AMENDMENTS WITHOUT I WOULD MOVE
THE BILL. THANK YOU CENTERS
SKINNER- DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM THE
DYESS. SCENE NINE I JUST WANNA
ALSO THANK SENATOR GROW FOR
SORRY. THE CLOTHES AFTER HE
CRIED. SORRY I'M DESERVE
GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT
YOU'VE DONE AND- BUT BEFORE WE
MOVE ON I WOULD LIKE YOU TO HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS OF THE- THE SPEAKER IN
OPPOSITION WHO EXPRESSED SOME
CONCERNS I THINK YOU. YOU I
REMEMBER YOU HAD SOME THAT SOME
THOUGHTS PRIOR TO AND WOULD LOVE
TO GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU MA'AM
TEARING MY CLOTHES- TWENTY YEARS
AGO AND INJUSTICE WAS
PERPETRATED AGAINST APRIL
GRAYSON. TWENTY YEARS AGO. BOTH
WERE NOT TREATED AS VICTIMS IN
THE SEX TRADE IN THE SEX TRADE
ORGANIZATION. THEY WERE TREATED
AS CRIMINALS. EVEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS HAVE CHANGED THEIR
ATTITUDE ABOUT WAY THE WAY
PEOPLE WERE- TREATED. I KNOW
APRIL GRAYSON IS NOT IN THIS
COMMITTEE HEARING TODAY BUT I
WOULD ASK YOU TO TELL HER THAT
LAST YEAR I HEARD HER. I HEARD
HER VOICE THE PAIN IN HER VOICE
I GAVE HER MY PERSONAL CELL
PHONE NUMBER. I REMOVED VACANCY
I REMOVED- VIOLENT. FROM THE
BILL THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR
EMITTED ONLY SERIOUS SO THE
PEOPLE LIKE APRIL GRAYSON WOULD
NEVER BE PROSECUTED AGAIN A
BAKER JR WOULD BE IN PLACE. SO I
LISTENED TO WHAT APRIL SAID
AGAIN GIVING HER MY PERSONAL
CELL PHONE NUMBER AND WANTED TO
WORK WITH HER ON A SOLUTION FOR
THE CITY CALIFORNIA FOR THE MANY
PEOPLE. LIKE BRIANNA AND DESKS
AND JIM MCKAY AND ALL THE OTHER
VICTIMS IT CAME HERE AND
SURVIVORS THAT CAME HERE TO
TESTIFY FOR THE BRUTALITY THAT
THEY ROOM THAT THEY WERE
INVOLVED IN INCLUDING A PROGRESS
AND- SO PLEASE DELIVER THAT
MESSAGE TO HER. SHE DIDN'T GIVE
ME HER NUMBER I WOULD REACH OUT
TO HER BUT LET HER KNOW THAT I
HEARD HER AND I TOOK THAT-
VIOLENT SECTION OUT SO THAT
BAKER COULD APPLY. AGAIN TWENTY
YEARS AGO WHEN SHE WAS
PROSECUTED THAT WAS AN INJUSTICE
BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE
LAST TWENTY YEARS AS MY
COLLEAGUE FROM BERKELEY HAS SAID
. IN CLOSING EVERYBODY WHO
TESTIFIED HERE TODAY. I WANT YOU
TO KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T GET
EVERYTHING WE WANTED. BUT WE ARE
A SPARTAN GROUP. TO A LARGE
OPPOSITION. AND WE WILL NEVER
GIVE UP THE FIGHT. YOU'VE ALL
DONE AMAZING WORK TO GET US
WHERE WE ARE TODAY. HUNDREDS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS.
ADVOCATES POLICE SOCIAL WORKERS
FROM ALL ACROSS CALIFORNIA. ARE
ROOTING FOR OUR TEAM TODAY. IF
THIS BILL GETS PASSED AT THIS
COMMITTEE TODAY WE WILL. BE
THERE WILL BE A SURGE OF HOPE.
FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS GONE
THROUGH THIS HORRIFIC EVENT. AND
THOUSANDS. WILL BE SO GRATEFUL
FOR THE ACCOMPLISHMENT IF WE GET
IT OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE TODAY.
HOPEFULLY. THE WORK THAT WE'VE
DONE. WELL SURE NOT SHINE A
BRIGHT LIGHT OF HOPE. IN HERE IN
SACRAMENTO IN THIS BUILDING
TODAY. FOR ALL THE BUCK THE
VICTIMS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
SURVIVORS THAT HAVE BEEN
HORRIFICALLY PERPETRATED BY THE
CRIME OF TRAFFICKERS. AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU SENATOR OUR GROWTH AND
IF I'M JUST. APPOINTED
PRIVILEGES ONE THE STATE. THAT I
WAS WITH SENATOR GROWTH LAST
YEAR AFTER WE HEARD THIS BILL.
AND I HAVE TO SAY SHE HAS BEEN
ONE OF THE MOST COMMITTED.
MEMBERS THAT I'VE SEEN WORKING
IN THE SPACE IN TRYING TO FIND
BOTH JUSTICE AND GRACE. WHEN IT
COMES TO DEALING WITH HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. AND IF ANYONE COULD
SEE HER HEART IN THE WAY THAT
SHE HAS WAS MOVED LAST YEAR WITH
THE FAILURE OF THIS BILL AND HOW
HARD SHE'S WORKED SINCE THEN TO
MAKE SURE THAT SHE FIND THAT
BALANCE. I THINK YOU WOULD BRING
REASSURANCE TO ANYONE WHO HAS A
TASTE ABOUT THIS BILL. WITH THAT
SENATOR GROVE I AM GRATEFUL FOR
THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND
HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO
DO AND THEN THAT I WOULD BE
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
THE ADDAMS SECRETARY IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SB
FOURTEEN THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR WILL HOP. A JO'BURG HI
JOB AYE BRADFORD. SKINNER ALL
RIGHT SKINNER AYE WIENER WIENER
AYE. WE WILL. PUT THIS BILL ON
THE CALL FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
GROVE. I BELIEVE THERE IS NO
CLAPPING IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM
I'M SORRY. M. WE WILL NOW
CONTINUE WITH. SENATOR BURKE-
BILL NUMBER THREE S. B. FORTY
FOUR. THAT'S OKAY. THERE. THANK
YOU WELCOME SENATOR UMBERG.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO.
SENATOR UMBERG WOULD YOU MIND AB
WAITING JUST A MINUTE WHILE WE
HAVE OUR OUR AUDIENCE LEAVE THE
ROOM SURE. OKAY IN THE MEANTIME
WOULD YOU WE COULD TAKE THE
CONSENT ITEMS. GO OVER. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR SKINNER
BOTTOM SECRETARY IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CENTER
WILL HAVE A JOB I TOBER AYE
BRADFORD SKINNER HI SKINNER AYE
WIENER WIENER AYE.
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SENATOR
AMBER FOR YOUR PATIENCE- YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN READY. THE JORDAN
AND MARY KENNEDY FOR THE TIME
AND ATTENTION THEY'VE DEVOTED
THIS ISSUE BOB. A VERY VERY
SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE FAMILY
MEMBERS WHO ARE BACK HERE IN
SACRAMENTO WHOSE CHILDREN HAVE
BEEN LOST TO THE FENTANYL CRISIS
THEY'VE TAKEN THEIR TRAGEDY
THEIR SORROW. THEIR DEVASTATION
AND TURNED IT INTO SOMETHING
THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL PREVENT
AND I BELIEVE WILL PREVENT
OTHERS FROM SUFFERING THE SAME
FATE- WE'RE BACK AGAIN SB FORTY
FOUR- IS ONE OF THE MANY TOOLS
TO DEAL WITH THE FEDERAL CRISIS
THERE'S A FEDERAL CRISIS IN
CALIFORNIA ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE HUNDRED
AND SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
PEOPLE DIED OF OVERDOSE IN
CALIFORNIA OVER TWENTY THOUSAND
PEOPLE DIED OF OVERDOSE FENNEL
IS KILLING YOUNG PEOPLE. AT A
RATE THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED
FENNEL IS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER
KINDS OF. ILLEGAL DRUGS- I'VE
WORKED IN THE SPACE FOR MANY
MANY YEARS I WORKED IN THE SPACE
ADMINISTRATION I WORKED THE
SPACE IN THE ARMY IN AFGHANISTAN
I WORK IN THE SPACE IN LATIN
AMERICA. THIS IS DIFFERENT THIS
IS DIFFERENT THAN HEROIN IS
DIFFER THAN COCAINE IS EVEN
DIFFERENT THAN METHAMPHETAMINE.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHEN YOU
OVERDOSE ON HEROIN- YOU KNOW
YOU'RE INGESTING HEROIN. NOW
WHETHER IT'S PURER THAN YOU
EXPECTED OR WHETHER IT'S IN A
GREATER VOLUME OR QUALITY THAN
EXPECTED WHICH CAUSED THE DEATH.
THAT'S THAT'S A TRAGEDY THAT'S A
TRAGEDY VETTEL'S DIFFERENT
FENNEL OFTENTIMES COMES WITHOUT
THE- PERSON WHO INGESTS IT
KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE INGESTING
MAY THINK THEY'RE BUYING XANAX
THEY THINK THEY'RE BUYING OXY
CODE ON. EVEN IF THEY'RE BUYING
IT- IN THE BLACK MARKET THEY
DON'T KNOW THE JUST THE TINY BIT
OF FENTANYL CAN KILL YOU THEY
DON'T KNOW THAT. AS A
CONSEQUENCE THERE DYING THE
GOVERNOR'S DECLARED SOMEONE OF
THE STATE OF EMERGENCY IN SAN
FRANCISCO CONCERNING THIS. THIS
ISSUE- WE PRESENTED THIS BILL
BEFORE THIS NEW AMENDED BILL-
THAT WAS CRAFTED WITH THE
ASSISTANCE OF DISK ATTORNEY
BROOKE JENKINS IS DIFFERENT
HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE- WE HAVE
ADDED A PROVISION THAT SAYS
THAT. LET ME LET ME BACK UP A
LITTLE BIT THIS IS CRAFTED BASED
ON THE WATSON ADVISEMENT THE
WATSON ADVISEMENT AS AN
ADVISEMENT THAT'S GIVEN TO
SOMEBODY WHO WAS CONVICTED OF
DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE
THEIR TOLD LOOK AT. YOU DRIVEN
UNDER THE INFLUENCE YOU NOW KNOW
THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN
CONVICTED. OF DRIVING UNDER
INFLUENCE IS VERY VERY DANGEROUS
IF YOU DO IT AGAIN YOU MAY KILL
SOMEBODY. SO YOU'RE BEING WARNED
THAT YOUR PUNISHMENT MAY WELL BE
INCREASED IF YOU DRIVE DRUNK
AGAIN. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT BY
THE WAY THAT YOU SHOW. NEW YEAR
DRIVING DRUNK. BUT IF YOU DRIVE
DRUNK AGAIN WE'RE JUST LETTING
YOU KNOW THIS PUNISHMENT COULD
BE INCREASED. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE
HERE. IN THE AMENDED VERSION IN
THE AMENDED VERSION WE'VE SAID
LOOK AT. THE FIRST BASICALLY THE
FIRST TIME YOU SELL FENTANYL
YOU'RE TOLD. NOW YOU EITHER
PLEADED GUILTY OR BEEN FOUND
GUILTY BUT THERE'S BEEN. A
RECOGNITION. BY VIRTUE OF A LAB
ANALYSIS OR YOUR OWN ADMISSION
THAT YOU THAT YOU WERE
DISTRIBUTING FENTANYL. THE
SECOND TIME THE SECOND TIME IF
SOMEONE DIES IF SOMEONE DIES
THEN. YOU HAVE TO KNOW OR YOU
SHOULD KNOW EITHER ACTUAL OR
CONSTRUCTIVE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU
WERE- DISTRIBUTING SOMETHING
THAT HAD FENTANYL. SO IN ORDER
TO EVEN ADMIT ENHANCED
PUNISHMENT THE SECOND TIME YOU
NEED TO KNOW OR SHOULD KNOW THAT
YOU ARE SELLING OR DISTRIBUTING.
FENTANYL NOW- I I'D PLEASED UP
TO HAVE. YOU SENATOR OCHO BOGUS
IS THE JOINT AUTHORS ON THIS
MEASURE- WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION AS I
MENTIONED COMMITTEE STAFF ALSO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE SPENT
CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
ADDRESSING THIS TRAGIC LET ME BE
CLEAR THIS IS ONE TOOL THIS IS
ONE TOOL. WE ARE NOT GOING TO
ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF THIS
CRISIS. BUT WITH PREVENTION WITH
TREATMENT WITH EDUCATION AS WELL
AS WITH PREVENTION IN TERMS OF
PREVENTING THOSE WHO. AT ONE
POINT HAD SOLD FENTANYL FROM
SELLING IT AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO
MAKE A DENT IN THIS CRISIS IT IS
BUT ONE OF MANY TOOLS THAT NEED
TO BE EMPLOYED IN THIS ALL IN.
ALL EFFORTS APPROACH TO MAKING
SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT MORE
VICTIMS SO WITH WITH THAT- I
HAVE TO WITNESSES HERE- MAYOR
TODD. GLORIA FROM SAN DIEGO-
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE-
MADAM CHAIR IF I MIGHT ASK THAT
THAT THE MAYOR GLORIA BE GIVEN
THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY.
ABSOLUTELY WITH PLEASURE.
RECEIPT IS WHEN YOU'RE READY
THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THANK
YOU CENTER- BURKE FOR THE
PRODUCTION FOR OFFERING THIS
BILL I STAND FOR YOU WAS THERE
THE CITY SAN DIEGO IN THE PROUD
SPONSOR. OF THIS LEGISLATION I'M
HERE TODAY TO ASK RESPECTFULLY
FOR YOUR SUPPORT. HIS WHEN I WE
WERE HERE LAST MONTH AYE JOINTS
AYE SAN FRANCISCO DISTRICT
ATTORNEY BOOK JENKINS WE SHARED
WITH YOU ALL THAT STARTED TO
STICKS- WHY DO THE FACT THE SIX
THOUSAND CALIFORNIANS DIE EACH
YEAR DUE TO FINAL OVERDOSE. IT
IS THE NUMBER ONE KILLER OF
FOLKS AGES EIGHTEEN TO FORTY
FIVE. IS THE NUMBER ONE KILLER
OF. HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS- IN MY
COUNTY. THIS IS A YOU HEARD ALL
OF THE- CONTEST OF THE MORNING
FAMILIES- WE WERE LAST YEAR
DEMANDING ACTION ON THIS CRISIS.
SO I WANT TO FOCUS MY COMMENTS
TODAY ON THE AMENDMENT THAT
SENATOR UMBERG JUST OUTLINED.
OUR LAST HEARING WE SPOKE AT
LENGTH I BELIEVE ABOUT THE
CONCEPT OF MAKING SURE. THAT THE
DRUG DEALER KNOWINGLY CELLS THAT
DIDN'T GO IN THE CELLS-
TECHNOLOGY ORDER FOR THIS AND-
ADVISED TO APPLY. WE'VE TAKEN
THAT AMENDMENT WITH HOPES OF
EARNING THIS COMMITTEE SUPPORT
TODAY- THAT ON MANAGEMENT HAS
BEEN UPDATED TO ENSURE THAT
ANYONE WHO'S CONVICTED OF A
FEDERAL CHARGE. BE MADE AWARE
THAT SENTINEL HIS DEADLY. AND
AFTER BEING READ THAT MARCHMENT
IF THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT I'M
GOING TO CONTINUE SELLING
FENTANYL. AND END UP KILLING
SOMEONE AT THAT POINT THIS WOULD
BE THIS ONE WOULD KICK IN THE
SOME OF THE SUBJECT TO THE
GREATER PENALTIES. ENTIRE GOAL
HERE IS TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY
WHEN SOMEONE IS CAUGHT DEALING
TO DISRUPT THEIR BEHAVIOR. AND
TO SAVE LIVES. THIS DRUG AS
YOU'VE HEARD ME IN THE SENATORS
SAY IS RAVAGING OUR CITIES.
THAT'S WHY THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES AND BIG
CALIFORNIA CITIES AS DIVERSE AS
SAN JOSE SAN FRANCISCO FRESNO.
AND SACRAMENTO ALL IN SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL FORTY FOUR. AND WE
KNOW THAT WE ARE EARLY IN THE
LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THIS BILL
IS NOT IN ITS FINAL FORM. I
THINK THAT WHEN YOU TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THE WE'VE ALREADY
NARROWED THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL
SIGNIFICANTLY SUPPLY ONLY
DEFENSE NOT. A LIMIT ITS
APPLICATION TO ADULTS ONLY AND
LIMITED TO A CRIME WHEN LIMIT
THE CRIME FOR WHEN IT WILL
PROVIDE. I THINK WE SEE IS A
GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO TRY TO KEEP
THIS BILL MOVING FORWARD. AND
THAT'S WERE HERE TODAY WITH THIS
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT- SHOWING
GOOD FAITH IN ORDER TRYING KEEP
THIS BILL GOING FORWARD. I ASK
YOU ALL SUPPORT THE BILL AS IT'S
BEEN PRESENTED TODAY SO WE CAN
TAKE ACTION ON THIS CRISIS THAT
IS SO URGENT. IN NEED OF YOUR
HELP TODAY I ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU CENTER. THANK
YOU- I BELIEVE MR SEPULUH TOLD
MR MAT KAPLEAU THIS BILL'S BEEN-
DENOMINATORS ALEXANDRA'S LAW-
THAT'S MR. AND MRS COUPLE LUTOS
DAUGHTER. GOOD MORNING AS YOU
CAN IMAGINE I'M FRUSTRATED TO BE
HERE AGAIN. DURING MY PAST
VISITS HAD BEEN HOPEFUL AND
ENTHUSIASTIC. BROKEN AND IN
TEARS. AND YES FURIOUS AND
EMOTIONAL. I AM POSITIVE THAT
YOU. THAT YOU ALL CAN SYMPATHIZE
ON SOME LEVEL WITH THE EMOTIONS
THAT. RUN THROUGH MY HEART AND
MIND WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
ISSUE. I AM A FATHER WHOSE
DAUGHTER WAS KILLED BY A DRUG
DEALER. WHO TRADED HER LIFE FOR
A FEW BUCKS. THE EVIDENCE SHOWED
ALEXANDER OF SEEKING PERCOCET.
THE DRUG DEALER LATER ADMITTED
TO KNOWING THE PILLS HE'S OLDER
WERE COUNTERFEIT OXY CODE ON
PILLS. MADE OF FAT AND ALL. MY
DAUGHTER DID NOT MAKE A WISE
CHOICE IN PURCHASING WHAT SHE
BELIEVED WAS A PHARMACEUTICAL
GRADE MEDICATION ILLEGALLY. AND
SHE PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE.
HOWEVER WHAT ABOUT THE CHOICE
MADE BY THE PERSON ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THAT TRANSACTION. DO WE
HAVE ACCEPT HIS ACTIONS AND LET
HIM CONTINUE TO DECEIVE PEOPLE
TO DEATH AS HE DID OUR ALEX. I
SEE THAT TERRIBLE SCENARIO IS
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MITIGATED
SO OTHER FAMILIES DON'T HAVE TO
HURT LIKE MY FAMILY DOES.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE AS HUMANS WE
ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO EACH OTHER WE
ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROTECTING
ONE ANOTHER. AND AS YOU KNOW OUR
FRIENDS AND FAMILIES ARE BEING
DESTROYED BY THE SELF OF THE
LEGAL FAT AND ALL IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. AND I CAN'T
CONCEIVE A SCENARIO WHERE I WANT
TO FIGHT TO PROTECT THEM. WHILE
I AM NOT A POLITICIAN WHAT I AM
IS NOT A POLITICIAN I DON'T
THINK LIKE A POLITICIAN ACT LIKE
ONE NOR DO I EVER DESIRED DESIRE
TO BECOME ONE. THAT'S NO
DISRESPECT TO YOUR SERVICE
THAT'S JUST NOT WHO I AM. AND
THERE IS ONE IF THERE'S ONE
THING I'VE LEARNED ABOUT OUR
POLITICAL SYSTEM HERE IN
CALIFORNIA IS THAT IT'S
FRACTURED. SPLIT SKEWED IN MY
OPINION. AND THAT'S WHERE MY
FRUSTRATION COMES FROM.
ALEXANDER'S LAW IS SENSIBLE IT'S
RESPONSIBLE IT MOVES THE NEEDLE
TOWARD THAT QUOTE UNQUOTE DOING
SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THAT WE ALL
WANT TO BELIEVE OUR POLITICIANS
ARE HERE FOR. AND THREE YEARS
LATER I'VE YET TO SEE IT FROM
THIS COMMITTEE. AND AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE THAT'S FRUSTRATING. CALL
ME NAIVE BUT PUT YOURSELF IN MY
SHOES. FROM WHERE I'M STANDING
WE HAVE MORE SUPPORT OUT THERE
ON THE FLOOR FOR THIS BUILDING
WE HAVE FROM A GROUP OF FIVE
GATEKEEPERS. THIS COMMITTEE IS
STANDING BETWEEN DOING NOTHING
AND CREATING SOME SEMBLANCE OF
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR DRUG DEALERS
WHO KNOWING. WHO KNOWINGLY RISK
THEY ARE KNOWINGLY RISKING THE
LIVES OF CALIFORNIANS. I'VE
HEARD CALL BACKS TO THE WAR ON
DRUGS AND THE FAILURES OF THOSE
POLICIES AND THAT ALL SOUNDS
CATCHY AND MAKES PEOPLE FEEL
GUILTY. I GET IT. BUT I HAVE YET
TO HEAR A LOGICAL REASON FOR
REFUSING TO GIVE DRUG DEALERS A
WARNING FOR SELLING COUNTERFEIT
PILLS TO PEOPLE WHILE KNOWING
THAT PERSON COULD DIE. THE
WATSON ADVISEMENT WAS
ESTABLISHED IN THE NINETEEN
EIGHTIES ARE WE REGRETTING THAT
LAW ARE WE CALLING IT TO BE UP
FOR IT TO BE OVERTURNED NO
BECAUSE IT SAVES LIVES. I LOOK
AROUND THIS ROOM AND I LOOK AT
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUPPORTED
ALEXANDER'S LAW THE POLITICIANS
WHO WANT TO DO SOMETHING. THEY
HAVE WORKED WITH YOUR CONCERNS
AND MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BILL
TO ADD YOU ALL CLOSER TO
ALLOWING IT TO THE FLOOR.
LISTENING TO PERSPECTIVES. HERE
IN OUR DETRACTORS BANTERING
ABOUT. THIS WORD OF THAT PHRASE
FINALLY ANYWAY TO MAKE OUR MAKE
THIS LAW SOMETHING YOU CAN FIND
IN YOUR HEART TO LET ALL OUR
REPRESENTATIVES MAKE A DECISION
ON. IN I AM HERE BEGGING YOU.
FOR YOU TO KEEP THIS BILL AND
EXISTENCE KEEP THE CONVERSATION
ALIVE KEEP THE BILL ON THE TABLE
THAT IS THAT IF IT HERE TOO IS
PREVENTIVE NOT PUNITIVE. GIVE
THEM A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING AS
WELL PLEASE CONSIDER ALEXANDER'S
LOT FOR APPROVAL. AND THAT
CALIFORNIA'S CHOSEN
REPRESENTATIVES HAVE THE FINAL
SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH SIR. WELL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES HERE IN SUPPORT OF SB
FORTY FOUR IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. CINDY THE SILVER DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT. IF YOUR MEMBERS
JONATHON FELDMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. PAST
KNOWS ON BEHALF OF THE CENTRE
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE IN SUPPORT. IT SIMILAR
STORY SHOW YOUR LIFE AND WHOSE
MOTHER LINE MY APOLOGIES. ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN FRANCISCO.
MAYOR BREED IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
SENATORS MY NAME'S ROB GONZALEZ
WITH THREE. ON BEHALF OF THE
ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.
I'M STANDING HERE ON BEHALF OF
ALL THE BROWN AND BLACK MOMS AND
THE LOST CHILDREN IN SENATOR
BRADFORD'S DISTRICT LIKE MY SON
ELIJAH. AND FULL SUPPORT. I'M
HERE REPRESENTING. AGENCE FRANCE
AND ALL IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY.
HAVE MY BELOVED SON JEFF WHO
SEVENTEEN AND I LOST TO THIS
CRISIS I'M HERE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU
. HELLO COMMITTEE MEMBERS THIS
IS MY LATE SON ZACH AND MY NAME
IS CHRIS AND I REPRESENT VICTIMS
OF ILLICIT DRUGS. WE'RE FROM
PLASTER COUNTY I SUPPORT THIS
BILL HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE TO DIE
BEFORE YOU ASKED. MY NAME IS
LISA IS L. AND I'M REPRESENTING
MY SON CAMERON. HE'S A VICTIM OF
FATE NOT POISONING ON AUGUST
ELEVENTH TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL
. MY NAME IS AMERICA CALLED HIM
I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF MY SON
MERRICK. WHO HAVE AUTISM. IN
SENTINEL STILL AFFECTED HIM I
SUPPORT THIS BILL WE DON'T WANT
MORE PEOPLE TO DIE. CALIFORNIA'S
THE CALIFORNIA PEOPLE ARE
WATCHING THIS VERY CLOSELY THANK
YOU. MEGAN ZIMMER REPRESENTING
KEVIN MARCH FOREVER TWENTY
THREE. SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD
MORNING MADAM VICE CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
MICHAEL FUHRMAN ON THE CHIEF
ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY FROM
SAN MARINO COUNTY ON BEHALF OF
DISTRICT ATTORNEY JASON
ANDERSON. WE SUPPORT THIS BILL
THANK YOU. I'M K. CELLS I'M HERE
IN MEMORY OF MY SON DEREK I
SUPPORT THIS BILL HOW MANY MORE
HAVE TO DIE BEFORE THIS BILL
GETS THROUGH. BRENDAN UP ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN SUPPORT
. TAWDRY BMR KIND DISTRICT
ATTORNEY URGES SUPPORT THIS BILL
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF SB FORTY FOUR HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. C. NINE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITE LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES FOR SB. FORTY FOUR.
GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING
COMMITTEE GOING BACK AS FOR THE
L. BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
I'LL BE BRIEF. COMMITTEES VERY
FAMILIAR WITH THE BILL. THE
THREE STRONGEST PREDICTORS OF
BEING COULD CONVICTED FOR
POSSESSION FOR SALE OR SALE. IS
BEING POOR. IS HAVING SUBSTANCE
ABUSE DISORDER. OR BEING PERCENT
COLOR BLACK LATINO OR INDIGENOUS
. WE'VE PREVIOUSLY HEARD
TESTIMONY THIS COMMITTEE FROM A
MOTHER WHO LOST HER KID BECAUSE-
HIS FRIENDS WHEN HE WORDS
OVERDOSING WAS AFRAID TO CALL
NINE ONE ONE. ORTEGA'S FRIEND TO
THE ER. THEY ARE AFRAID OF JAIL
OR PRISON. I'VE HEARD THE STORY
MANY TIMES BECAUSE I'VE CHOSEN
TO WORK WITH FAMILIES HAVE
SUFFERED THE WORST LOSSES
POSSIBLE. THEY ARE ORGANIZED AS
THE GROUP BROKEN NO MORE. THE
ADVOCATE FOR MORE TREATMENT MORE
HARM REDUCTION COMPASSION AND
INTELLIGENCE. ON BEHALF OF
BROKEN NO MORE ELEVATORS ARE
FRIEDMAN WRITES WE ARE. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS JEFF BUT
DENIED THE CALIFORNIA STATE
DIRECTOR FOR DRUG POLICY
ALLIANCE WE ARE ALSO HERE
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION ASK THE
BILL HAS JUST BEEN RECENTLY
AMENDED. OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO
EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN TOUCHED BY
THIS OVERDOSE CRISIS WE HAVE ALL
HAVE HAD MEMBERS FAMILY MEMBERS
WHO. HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY THIS.
PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE'RE
IN WE ARE A NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION PROMOTING DRUG
POLICIES GROUNDED IN SCIENCE
COMPASSION HEALTH AND HUMAN
RIGHTS. WELL WE CLEARLY
UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO ADDRESS
THE OVERDOSE CRISIS AND ASSUME
THAT BEST INTENTIONS BY THE
AUTHOR. OF DPA KNOWS THAT FOR
THE CRIMINALIZATION WILL
EXACERBATE THE OVERDOSE CRISIS
INSTEAD OF REDUCING THE
AVAILABILITY OF THIS DEADLY DRUG
AND WILL FURTHER SERVE TO
INTRODUCE MORE DANGEROUS. DRUGS
INTO DRUGS SUPPLY- WE ALL ARE
ALSO CONCERNED THAT ONE OF THE
MANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR THIS
BILL- STILL REMAINS UNANSWERED-
IN THE CASE OF INDIVIDUALS NOT
CONVICTED OF SALES ARE
TRANSPORTATION OFFENSES. SUCH AS
THOSE FOUND IN HEALTH AND SAFETY
CODE SECTION ELEVEN THREE FIVE
WAS 11-3 FIVE TWO AND ELEVEN
THREE SEVENTY NINE POINT SIX-
WELL THE LAW REQUIRE SUPPORT
FINDING THAT THE PERSON
EXCHANGED A CONTROLLED.
SUBSTANCE CONTAINING FENTANYL
FOR VALUE. SKEWS ME IF SO UNDER
WHAT OF WITH THIS THIS IS NOT
ONLY AND THAT'S PUT IT. BUT
RENTS CAN TO THE WAY OUR
JUSTICES OPERATES FOR CRIMINAL-
YOU KNOW. I COULD SIT HERE AND
TELL YOU HOW FURTHER
CRIMINALIZATION FURTHER
STIGMATIZE FOLKS THAT ARE
SUBSTANCE USERS THERE'S ALSO
JUST A REALLY FINE LINE BETWEEN.
SOME FOLKS WERE DRUG SELLERS AND
DRUG USERS ARE SUBSISTENCE
SELLERS AND THOSE FOLKS ARE ALSO
IN NEED OF. OF TREATMENT NEED OF
HARM REDUCTION IN NEED OF A-
OTHER SOCIAL SUPPORTS AND
SERVICES- AND SO WE REALLY WANT
TO URGE YOU. TO LOOK AT THE
SCIENCE LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND
KNOW. WHAT WE KNOW TODAY IS THAT
FOR THE CRIMINALIZATION WILL
NOT- HELP AND SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
WE NEED A MULTI PRONGED
APPROACH. THAT REALLY LOOKS AT
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
PROVIDING INVESTMENTS PROVIDING
THINGS LIKE TREATMENT ON DEMAND.
ENSURING THAT WE IMPLEMENT
OVERDOSE PREVENTION CENTERS AND
SUPPORT HARM REDUCTION SERVICES
WE ALSO NEED TO PROVIDE SOCIAL
SUPPORT IN OUR EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE
STUDENTS THAT DO NOT GO INTO.
THAT THAT ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT
THEIR FAMILIES AS WELL AND WE
ALSO NEED A- DRUG EDUCATION.
THAT IS GROUNDED IN SCIENCE AND
EVIDENCE AND THAT IS REALITY
BASED FOR BOTH OUR PARENTS AND
ARE YOU. I AM ALSO A MOTHER OF
TWO DAUGHTERS AND I HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS EVERY YOU KNOW.
ALL THE ALONG WITH MY KIDS IT IS
A REAL CRISIS THAT STRETCHING A
LOT OF INDIVIDUALS BUT WE KNOW
THAT THERE ARE WAYS FOR THE
STATE TO ADDRESS. THIS OVERDOSE
CRISIS AND OUT IN A
COMPREHENSIVE MANNER AND AS THE
CENTER HIMSELF SAID IT'S WE'RE
NOT IN A POSITION TO. CONTINUE
TO INCARCERATE OUR WAY OUT OF
THIS WE NEED TO FIND SOLUTIONS.
THAT ARE MULTI PROBLEM THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL
NOT CONTINUE WITH WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB FORTY FOUR HERE
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED.
LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE. IN OPPOSITION. JIM
WEINBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
OF CALIFORNIA AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB FORTY FOUR HERE
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEE
NON WILL NOT CONTINUE TO
WITNESSES- YEAH THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS BOTH IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION- M. AND
JUST AS A REMINDER- TO OUR
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE OR PROCESS AT
THIS TIME WILL TAKE YOUR NAME.
YOUR VISITATION YOU ARE
PRESENTING AND YOUR POSITION ON
THE BILL WHETHER IT'S SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. MISTER MODERATOR IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE QUEUE UP THE
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB FORTY FOUR AND
WE WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR SHE INDICATED IF YOU ARE
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION SB
FORTY FOUR YOU TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY PRESS ONE FIVE EIGHT
ZERO AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH LINE.
TWO SIX EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YOU'RE OPEN TO SIXTY EIGHT.
TWENTY TWO SIXTY EIGHT. YEAH
ORDER AT. AT. WE WILL I SEVENTY.
MY NAME IS MARIA ORTEGA WITH
AGENTS FOREVER FUNDACION I
REPRESENT- IF YOU LOOK AT NO
POISONING IN A LONG THIS BILL
VULNERABLE ENTERED HOW MANY HOPS
DIED YOU OUT. IN YOU. FIND
TWENTY FOR PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
MY NAME DAVID- RIGHT WE WILL
TOLD BY THAT MALL WAS. RIGHT THE
SUPPORT THIS BILL. HOW MAY MORE
HAVE TO DIE YOU WITH. THIS ON. A
MATTER OF WHILE YOU KNOW WE'RE A
WE'RE STYLE ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITH
. KIND OF. AN ECHO BUT- I WOULD
AND MOVE ON WILL GO TO LINE. TWO
FIVE. MY TO NINETY FIVE YOU ARE
OPENS. HELLO YES. PLEASE OUR
SEAT MA'AM YES WE CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY. MY NAME VERY AND THEIR
VICTIM OF HER KNEE. I'VE WITH
THESE AND- RESORT ON ASK YOU
KNOW- HELLO OF THESE ARE VERY
MUCH OUR- JUST AS REMINDER. OF
NAME POSITION AND ORGANIZATION
THE PRISON AT THE TIME. THANK
YOU ARE WHEN I NINE. YOU AREN'T
THAT. TWO NINETY USUALLY OF
QUEUE. OKAY GO AHEAD. OKAY- MY
NAME THE THIRD ROW OF THE OF
THAT MALL FOR NAMED AND I AM IN
OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU. ONE
MOMENT. HE. OKAY NEXT WE'LL GO
TO FORTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS ONE OF COURSE- AND I
REPEAT CHRIS GIVEN NIGHT OF A
VICTIM OF FEDERAL THE NEW AND
TRY INDUCED LOCKED THE- AND I
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF A BEFORE
FOUR MANY MORE TO DIE YOU. MY TO
NINETY EIGHT PLEASE CALL AT. MY
NAME THE LEADER ORTEGA FROM
TEMECULA CALIFORNIA AFRICAN BACK
TERRIBLE BIG LOOK AT POINT NEED
AND I IS SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
TWENTY ONE FIFTY ONE YOU ARE
OKAY. MY NAME IS MICHELLE BY
I'LL MY CHILD YEAH WILL BE. I AM
SIMPLY S. S. B. FORTY FOUR. ONE
THREE HUNDRED YOU ARE OPEN. MY
NAME IS I REPRESENT A VICTIMS
FEDERAL AND I SUPPORTED THANK
YOU. ONE TWENTY SEVENTEEN GO
AHEAD. MY NAME BRING AND AMERICA
ADDICT I RECORD JOHN WILL BALL
MEANT A NOT. I THANK THE BILL.
WHY TWENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
CERTAINLY UNDERTONE AS MOM TWO
SONS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY DRUG.
I AM SUPPORT OF THE BILL WHICH-
MY HUNDRED TWO GO AHEAD. MY NAME
OF THE HAHN AND I PRESENT MY
NEPHEW. AS WELL OF THREE OF MY
WHO SUFFERED A. HELLO MY NEPHEW
WAS A OF NO PEOPLE AND A STRONG
SUPPORT AS BEFORE FOUR MANY MORE
NEED TO DIE BEFORE WE- MY NAME
ONE HUNDRED FIVE PLEASE AHEAD.
MY NAME IS DENISE BACK I'M CALL
IN. OF MY SON WARNS WHO WAS
POISONED NOT OVERDOSE- INTO THE
- TWENTY AND I JUST SUPPORT L.
AND LAW. SB FORTY. ONE OF SEVEN
YOU LINE IS A- HI MY NAME IS
CAROL MONTHS AND FOUNDER OF DRAW
USE HI FOUNDATION THE MOTHER OF
THE LATE SIGNATURE AGAIN EIGHT
TWENTY EIGHT YEAR VETERAN OF THE
SHIP POLICE. AND STRONGLY A
THREE FOR FOUR ALEXANDER'S LAW
COUPLE. ONE ONE HUNDRED AWAY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. IMAGE PRESIDENT
OF DRUG AWARENESS FOUNDATION AND
MOTHER OF TYLER WHO DIED FROM
FENTANYL I STRONGLY SUPPORT. ONE
THIRTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
MY NAME IS TWENTY MINUTES
PROTECT MACULAR CALIFORNIA. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL IN
HONOR OF MY SON JAKE WHO WAS
POISONED BY FENTANYL. ONE FORTY
SEVEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN. ONE
FORTY SEVEN ARE YOU MUTED. HELLO
GO AHEAD OF ME. HI MY NAME IS
MARGARET BURKE HELLO. HELLO. YES
WE CAN HEAR YOU PLEASE. C. A. MY
NAME IS MARTY FIRST VIA AND I'M
- AND MNOS FONG REPORT OF LEAST
TWENTY FOUR. THANK YOU MA'AM.
ONE FORTY EIGHT YOU ARE OPEN.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ERIC
BOTH ARE REPRESENT MY DAUGHTER
ALYSSA WHOSE ONLY SEVENTEEN
YEARS WHEN SHE WAS POINTS WITH
FAT US SUPPORT BILL. PLEASE GO
AHEAD ONE SIXTY EIGHT- REGNI ON
BEHALF OF THE NATION'S DRAFTED
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. ONE
EIGHTY SIX YOU ARE OPEN. AT HI
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE FLOTILLA
AND I THINK FOR THE FILLING AB
POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF LIVES HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. MY TWO HUNDRED NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK. TWO
HUNDRED NINE. BY A TWO OH NINE.
ONE MORE SHOT TO A NINE WOULD
YOU LIKE TO TESTIFY. I WILL GO
LIKE TWO HUNDRED THIRTEEN. HI MY
NAME IS KATHY MARANDA I
REPRESENT HERE MARANDA FROM
ALAMEDA COUNTY WHO WAS POISONED
BY FAT NOW I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB
FORTY FOUR. YOU ARE OPENLY TO
EIGHTEEN. HI RECTANGLE ON THE
APPLE ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT IN SUPPORT OF
ALEXANDER'S LAW. TWENTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. TWENTY TWO YOU
ARE OPEN. YOU HEAR ME YES MA'AM
. OKAY MY NAME IS KAREN DRUM AND
I REPRESENT AND HONOR MY NEPHEWS
JACK WILLIAM MCCARTHY AGE
NINETEEN VICTIM WHO WAS KILLED
FROM BUT NO POISONING I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR HOW MANY
MORE NEED TO DIE. NINE TWO
TWENTY TWO YOU ARE OPEN. YES MY
NAME IS CAROL BULMAN I'M MY
NEPHEW JOSHUA BE ABLE. WHO WAS
MURDERED BY NO I SHOULD SUPPORT
AS WE. FORTY FOUR. BY TWO THIRTY
ONE YOU ARE OPEN. HELLO MY NAME
IS SHANNON HEIL I'M WITH DOCTOR
COUNTY MOMS FOR LIBERTY AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL THE
OPPOSITION JUST WANT MORE MONEY
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD LINE TO
FORTY FOUR. HI MY NAME IS CHERYL
GALE AND DIRECTOR AT CHAPEL OF
ORANGE IN ORANGE COUNTY
CALIFORNIA I IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF XP FORTY FOUR HOW MANY
MEMORIAL SO I HAVE TO DO FOR
SENTINEL STAFF BEFORE THE STILL
HIT THE FLOOR IT'S PAST. THANK
YOU NINE TO FORTY EIGHT PLEASE
AHEAD. HI AM READY THEY'LL
LIVING A GARDEN VALLEY- EL
DORADO COUNTY IN CALL IN TODAY'S
INSIDE OF- SB. FORTY FOUR. MY
SON CAMERON WHO DIED ON OCT
ELEVENTH TWENTY TWENTY ONE. TO
SEE FOUR GOING. INURES TO SIXTY
FOUR AND- WELL YES. JULIA FORMER
DRUG USER AND NOW PARENTS I
STRONGLY SUPPORT ETHICAL CORE.
MY TWO SEVENTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. ONE TWO SEVENTY THREE YOU
ARE OPEN. YEP THIS IS MATT
JERRY- I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF
MY LATE BROTHER'S ACTORS WHO
KILLED BY. COUNTERFEIT TELL AND
I FULLY SUPPORT THIS BILL. NINE
THIRTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
EARLY I REPRESENT MY ONLY CHILD
THROUGHOUT THE CALL FOREVER
TWENTY TWO IT'S MONTHS PREGNANT
WITH MY ONLY GRANDCHILD. SUPPORT
OF SB. FORTY FOUR. YOU ARE OPEN
FORTY FOUR. HI MY NAME IS KATHY
MCCARTHY IN HONOR OF MY LATE SON
JACK MCCARTHY AGE NINETEEN. ZERO
TWO RIGHT NOW QUITE MAIN I
SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR HOW MANY
MORE NEED TO DIE. FIND FIFTY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO YOUR OPEN
. NEARLY YES. MY NAME IS THOMAS
J. WOULD SENIOR PREPARE OF LISA
MARIE WOULD. MICHAEL MY DAUGHTER
IN AMANDA JEAN VANIER MY
GRANDDAUGHTER IN SUPPORT OF SB
FORTY FOUR FROM CHICAGO ILLINOIS
. NINE FIFTY NINE YOU ARE OPEN.
ARE YOU MUTED LINE. FIFTY NINE.
I. FIFTY NINE. WILL MOVE ALONG
TWO LINES SIXTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. NUMBER DOLLARS ARE IN
HONOR OF GREED AND ALL THOSE ALL
THE POISONS BY FAT AND ALL. IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE BILL HOW
MANY MORE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU
ACT. SEVENTY NINE YOU ARE OPEN.
THE SALARY OF PAUL REACH MOTHER
OF MY FOREVER EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD
SON TREVOR. WELL AS OR ANYTHING
BY CAN ALL THREE AND A HALF
YEARS AGO. AND I SUPPORT THIS
NEED PAUL RYAN OF THE TYPE OF
APPROACH TO THE NEVER SEEN
EPIDEMIC OF SENSIBLE THANK YOU.
ONE EIGHTY SIX YOU ARE OPEN.
HELLO I REPRESENT THE
ORGANIZATION OF EAGLE FORUM OF
CALIFORNIA WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL. EIGHTY THOUSAND SB
FORTY FOUR ACT THANK YOU. LINE
NINETY YOU ARE OPEN. WHY NINETY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO YOUR OPEN
. THIS IS SUSAN SLUSSER WHO
CALLING IN MEMORY OF MY DAUGHTER
MELANIE B. AND WHOSE BOYFRIEND
BY FAT AND ALL. PLEASE SUPPORT
SB. FORTY FOUR. AND WE WILL GO
ONLINE TWO ZERO NINE YOU ARE
OPEN. MY TWO HUNDRED NINETY TWO
MUTE YOURSELF. ONE MORE SHOT ONE
TWO HUNDRED AND NINE. WILL MOVE
ON TO TWO FORTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES THANK YOU MY NAME'S
DOES VERY HELLO I'M AN ATTORNEY
FROM ORANGE COUNTY AND REPRESENT
MY BROTHER DOMINIC DIRECTOR WHO
IS TWENTY EIGHT AND PASSED IN
OCTOBER. TWENTY TWENTY THREE.
OCTOBER TWENTY TWENTY THE PAIN
AS FAR RIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT
A LOVED OR FAMILY MEMBER MANY
OTHER HAVE A I'M PLEADING WITH
SENATE BUT THE HELP. THANK
SEVENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS MONA LEE FROM ACCOUNT I
REPRESENT MY SON MICHAEL WHO WAS
POISONED BY FUNDS AT ALL AT THE
AGE OF TWENTY YEARS OLD BY A
FAKE PRESCRIPTION TELL THAT WAS
A LETHAL DOSE OF FENTANYL. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL. TWO
SEVENTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING CHEN MEMBERS AT
LEAST ARE SITTING ON A WITH THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. PLEASE
GO AHEAD LINE SET OUT. TO
SEVENTY NINE TO SEVENTY NINE.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS NATALIE
JINKINS AND I REPRESENT MY SON
JACKSON A VICTIM OF THANK YOU
ALL FOR JOINING AT SUPPORT SB
FORTY FOUR HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO
DIE BEFORE WE ACT I STRONGLY
URGE YOU TO SUPPORT SB FORTY
FOUR. YOU ARE OPEN. NINE TO
EIGHTY. MY NAME IS MORE FULLY
I'M A CALIFORNIA VOTER. AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT ALEXANDER IS
LAW AND IF THIS ISN'T PASSED YOU
PUT ALL OF US PARENTS THAT ARE
VICTIMS YET AT RISK. THANK YOU.
LINE TWO EIGHTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS KATHY
LANCASTER AND I REPRESENT MY
FAMILY MEMBERS SHOALS WITH THE
COMMITMENT- QUICKENING I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR.
SENATORS WIENER BRADFORD MAHATMA
HOW MANY HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU
ACT THANK YOU. THANK TO NINETY
YOU ARE OPEN. HE GAVE UP ALL ON
. MCGEORGE LAW IN SUPPORT. MY
NINETY TWO. HI MY NAME IS SUE
BROWN AND I REPRESENT MY
GRANDSON GARRETT MEMORANDA. WHO
IS VICTIM UPSET NOT POISONING. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR.
THANK YOU. NINE TO NINETY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
NEEDED GONZALEZ AN HONOR OF
ADRIAN THIS IS WHO'S A VICTIM OF
FENTANYL POISONING AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS DON'T
DON'T LET MORE DIET CREATES ACT
THANK YOU. TWO NINETY YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. HI MY NAME IS BRIDGET
THE LAND UP ON THE PARENT AND
THE CANON. AND I REPRESENTS A
VICTIM OF SENTINEL QUICKENING I
AM IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB FORTY
FOUR. WELL LINE THREE OH NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THREE YOUR OPEN
THREE OH NINE. BALUSTER OKAY. SO
YOU'VE GOT TO WONDER YEAH CAN WE
CAN HEAR YOU. NINE THANK YOU
YOUR NAME AND IT WAS MY NAME
PROBLEM OF THOSE WRITTEN BECAUSE
YOU LIKE EXTRANETS TO AND FORTY.
AND WE TO HELP THE ACCOUNTABLE
THANK YOU. MISTER MATER NINE ONE
THIRTY THIS MODERATOR IF YOU
WERE WE'RE GOING TO- ACT TAKE
UPON. SO WE COULD GIVE ONE OF
OUR MEMBERS AND OUR TO AS HE'S
GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE- TO
PRESENT ANOTHER BILL I WAS A BUT
WE WERE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND
SHARE HIS COMMENTS AT THIS TIME
SO IF YOU WOULD. PLEASE UP JUST
PAUSE THE- TELECONFERENCE
WITNESSES IN WE WILL THAT'S THE
MICROPHONE OVER TO SENATOR
WIENER THANK YOU MADAM WILL DO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM VICE
CHAIR AND YES THE- GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE IS- ABOUT
TO SHUT DOWN AND SO I NEED TO GO
OVER PRESENT MY- MY BILL- OVER
THERE- BUT I DID WANNA STAY FOR
THIS- FOR THIS ENTIRE BILL
CONFESSIONALS AN INCREDIBLY.
IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I- I JUST
WANT TO SAY- ON THIS BILL- THIS
COMMITTEE WAS EXTREMELY CLEAR ON
THE LAST TIME WHEN- THERE WAS A
ON ONE ONLY ONE OUT OF FIVE
MEMBERS VOTED FOR- I WAS CLEAR
AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES I
THINK WE'RE IN A LINE WITH ME-
THAT WE WERE WILLING TO PASS HIS
BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE. AND I
THINK THAT REMAINS TRUE FOR ME
AND I MEASURE PROBABLY MEANS
TRUTH MY COLLEAGUES. THOUGHT
WITH AN AMENDMENT. THAT IN ORDER
TO TRIGGER. THIS VERY SERIOUS.
AND VERY LEGALLY CONSEQUENTIAL.
WARNING AND NOT JUST A WARNING
SUCH A JUDGE. PROVIDING A STERN
LECTURE TO SEE. THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT GOES LITTLE GETS
RECORDED ON THE ABSTRACT OF
CONVICTION. AND IS THERE WITH
YOU I THINK FOREVER- AT SO BUT
IN ORDER FOR THAT LEGALLY
CONSEQUENTIAL SERIOUS STUFF TO
HAPPEN. THAT YOU SHOULD AT LEAST
HAVE KNOWN OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.
THAT THERE WAS FENTANYL IN WHAT
YOU'RE SELLING NOT EVEN
REQUIRING ONLY ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE.
KNOWN OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. THAT
IS NOT IN THIS BILL I WANT VERY
VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WAS AN
AMENDMENT MADE IT DID NOT
ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT I RAISED
OR THAT THIS COMMITTEE REYES AND
THE LAST. HEARING I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLARITY ABOUT
THAT I RESPECT THE AUTHOR AND I
RESPECT THEIR DIFFERENCE OF
OPINION ON THIS- BUT IT DOES NOT
ADDRESS THE ISSUE. OF THAT WE
RATES. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
COMPARISON TO DO YOU EYES AND
THE WATSON- ADMONITION. WHEN YOU
WERE DRUNK DRIVING. TO GET
CONVICTED OF DRUNK DRIVING. YOU
YOU KNOW THAT YOU DRANK ALCOHOL
YOU KNOW THAT YOU GOT INTO A
CAR. IT IS ALL WITH KNOWLEDGE OR
INTENTIONAL. AND IN FACT I'M NOT
A DO YOU AYE EXPERT BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF YOU DID
NOT KNOW THAT YOU WERE DRINKING
ALCOHOL SOMEONE SLIPPED YOU.
ALCOHOL AND YOU DO NOT REALIZE
THAT DIED IS ACTUALLY THE FENCE
TO THE U. I CHARGE. AND SILK
COMPARING THIS WITH AL THAT
KNOWLEDGE OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
REQUIREMENT COMPARING THAT TO
THE DO YOU AYE CONTACTS IS NOT A
GOOD COMPARISON. BECAUSE WHEN
YOU ARE DRUNK DRIVING YOU KNOW
THAT YOU DRANK ALCOHOL YOU KNOW
YOU'VE GOT INTO A CAR. ON THIS
COMMITTEE I THINK WORKS HARD TO
TRY TO FIND RESOLUTIONS THIS IS
MY SEVENTH YEAR ON THE
COMMITTEE. AND WE FREQUENTLY
THEIR BILLS THAT COME TO US THAT
WE HAVE ISSUES WITH YOU SAW ONE
JUST BEFORE THIS WE IN THE PAST
HAVE NOT SUPPORTED CENTER
GROVE'S BILL. CENTER GROUP WORK
WITH US WE TOOK AN AMENDMENT AND
WE SUPPORTED IT THERE'S ANOTHER
BILL COMING UP. FROM SENATOR
ALBERTO GIL- THAT I WOULD NOT
SUPPORT ANY RESULT FORM WE
WORKED OUT I BELIEVE OF. A
RESOLUTION ON NOT- AND SO WE TRY
TO YOU KNOW WORK WITH AUTHORS TO
COME UP WITH RESOLUTIONS- AND
MOVE GOOD POLICY AND- AGAIN I'M
NOT CRITICIZING THE OUT OF THE
OFFICE STRONGLY BELIEVES IN WHAT
HE'S DOING. BUT WE HAVE A
DISAGREEMENT- HERE- THIS BILL
HAS COME TO US MULTIPLE TIMES.
ON THE FIRST FEW VERSIONS OF IT
THAT APPLY TO ALL DRUGS NOT JUST
FUNCTIONAL IT WAS IT WAS SOLD AS
A FRONTAL BONAPARTE ALL DRUGS
THE- ORIGINAL INTRODUCED VERSION
OF THIS BILL APPLY TO ALL DRUGS
THE AUTHOR. DID AMANDA TO
CLARIFIED- THAT WAS FUNCTIONAL-
BUT TO BE CLEAR THIS BILL. A
CONVICTION WOULD TRIGGER THIS
MORNING. FOR ANY DRUG CONVICTION
IF THERE WAS FUNDS AT ALL AND-
YOU KNOW. I REPRESENT A CITY
THAT LIKE MANY CITIES IN THIS
COUNTRY IS BEING DEEPLY
IMPACTED. BY SENTINEL- AND FOR
THOSE OF US WHO WORKED VERY VERY
HARD TO TRY TO. EXPAND ACCESS TO
TREATMENT- TO TRY TO- ENACT.
MEASURES TO. HELP PEOPLE NOT
DIE. FROM OVERDOSES- FOR THOSE
OF US WHO WORKED VERY VERY HARD
TO DO THAT I RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE WITH THE REPEATED
CLAIMS ARE PART OF TODAY THAT
THIS IS A QUOTE UNQUOTE DO
NOTHING. SOME OF US WORKED VERY
VERY HARD. TO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE
HEALTHY- AND TO TRY TO KEEP
PEOPLE FROM DYING WHICH IS JOB
NUMBER ONE. AND TO MY
CONSTITUENTS IN SAN FRANCISCO
AND I. I AM DEEPLY RESPECT MY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND MY MAYOR.
AND I HAVE EXPRESSED TO BOTH OF
THEM. WHAT THIS BILL WILL NEED
TO BE ABLE TO FOR ME TO SUPPORT
IT. SO THAT IT WOULD BE THE
RIGHT POLICY. YOU'RE IN SAN
FRANCISCO THERE'S ENORMOUS
FRUSTRATION AROUND THE OPEN AIR
DRUG DEALING PARTICULARLY IN THE
TENDERLOIN IN OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS TO PARTICULARLY IN
THE TUNNEL AND I'VE BEEN VERY
CLEAR. THAT WE NEED TO DISRUPT
AND ENDS THAT OPEN AIR DRUG
MARKET THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY
HUGE PROBLEM. PEOPLE THE
TENDERLOIN FOR RESIDENTS FOR
PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO OWN BUSINESSES THERE NO ONE.
SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THAT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE
THEIR KID GOING TO SCHOOL
WALKING PAST DRUG DEALERS ON THE
STREET AND I AM A SUPPORTER OF
DISRUPTING AN ENDING THAT OPEN
AIR DRUG MARKET. BUT THIS BILL
IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE TENDERLOIN
WE'RE MAKING POLICY FOR THE
FORTY MILLION PEOPLE OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. FROM THE
OCEAN TO NEVADA FROM OREGON TO
THE MEXICO BORDER. AND THE IDEA
THAT. SOME COLLEGE STUDENT
SELLING UPHILL TO HIS ROOMMATE
AND HAVING NO IDEA AND NO REASON
TO KNOW THERE'S FENTANYL IN
THEIR- WITH THAT AND- GET THIS
NUCLEAR. MURDER WARNING. ON HIS
OR HER RECORD. I THINK THAT'S A
STEP TOO FAR AND I THINK PEOPLE
SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE TO HAVE HAD
SOME INDICATION THAT WHAT THEY
WERE SELLING AT FOUNTAIN ALL AND
THAT. FOR THIS TO APPLY. SO A
MAN SHARE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME TO MAKE THE STATEMENT SO THAT
I CAN PRESENT MY BILL BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE CLOSES DOWN- BUT I
WANTED TO EXPRESS WHY. I WILL
CONTINUE TO NOT BE SUPPORTING
THIS BILL TODAY SO SENATOR
WINNER WOULD YOU MIND- IF
SENATOR AMBER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY
TO RESPOND ABSOLUTELY-
ABSOLUTELY OKAY JUST REPLY NOPE
CENTER WINNER I KNOW YOU'VE GOT
TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE AS DO
I. LET ME JUST RESPOND TO THE
FIRST. PART OF YOUR COMMENTS
CONCERNING THE WATSON ADVISEMENT
. THIS ADVISEMENT ACTUALLY
APPLIES EVEN MORE NARROWLY THAN
THE WATSON ADVISED IS YOU
MENTIONED. FOR THE WATSON
ADVISEMENT TO APPLY YOU NEED TO
BE CONVICTED OF DRUNK DRIVER
DRIVING ON THE INFLUENCE SO YOU
NEEDED TO KNOW YOU'RE IMBIBING
ALCOHOL OR SOME OTHER SUBSTANCE
THAT WOULD INTERFERE WITH YOUR
DRIVING. AND THEN YOU NEED TO
DRIVE THOSE TWO THINGS ARE
REQUIRED. THE PREDICATE TO THIS
BILL IS ONE YOU NEED TO KNOW YOU
ARE DISTRIBUTING SELLING
SOMETHING THAT IS ILLEGAL. SO
YOU KNOW YOU'RE SELLING
SOMETHING AS ILLEGAL NUMBER ONE
AND NUMBER TWO YOU'RE THEN TOLD
BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN EITHER THE
TESTIMONY YOU'RE PLEADED GUILTY
OF BEING CONVICTED. OF SELLING
FENNEL SO YOU'VE BEEN CONVICTED
YOU'VE SOLD SENTINEL ONE TIME
YOU KNOW IT NOW. QUERY WHETHER
YOU KNOW THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE
FIRST TIME YOU SOLD FEDERAL OR
NOT BUT LET'S ASSUME IT IS THE
FIRST TIME. IN YOUR LIFE YOU'VE
SOLD DISTRIBUTED SOMETHING WITH
AND- YOU GET NO INCREASE
PUNISHMENT NOTHING NOTHING YOU
GET YOUR PROBATION TERM YOU GET
NO INCREASE PUNISHMENT. BUT IF
YOU NOW THAT YOU KNOW. THE USUAL
FEDERAL AND YOU SELL FEDERAL
AGAIN AND YOU KNOW OR YOU SHOULD
KNOW BECAUSE ALL THE
CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD LEAD A
REASONABLE PERSON TO BELIEVE
YOU'RE SELLING FENNEL THIS IS
THE SECOND TIME AND YOU KILL
SOMEBODY. AND YOU KILL SOMEBODY
THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME. IT'S
APPROPRIATE THAT WE SAY HEY
LISTEN. THE LAW IS GOING TO
PROVIDE. AFTER YOU'RE ON NOTICE
THAT YOU SOLD FENTANYL AND BY
THE WAY YOU DIDN'T STOP. BY THE
WAY YOU DIDN'T SEEK TREATMENT BY
THE WAY YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
TO CHANGE YOUR COURSE OF CONDUCT
AND YOU KILL SOMEBODY. THEN YES
YOU SHOULD GET A GREATER
PUNISHMENT YOU SHOULD BE
PREVENTED FROM SELLING FEDERAL A
THIRD TIME. THAT'S MY VIEW AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT I APPRECIATE
YOUR POINT OF VIEW. BUT BUT WE
DO HAVE A STRONG OPINION AYE AYE
PRECIPITATOR AYE JUST TO BE
CRYSTAL CLEAR. WHEN YOU GET
CONVICTED OF DRY ICE IS ONLY
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
COMPARISONS TO THE WATSON
MORNING. WHEN YOU GET CONVICTED
OF A DIY AND GET THAT WARNING.
YOU KNOW BEFORE. YOU STEP INTO
THE CAR. THAT YOU DRANK ALCOHOL
YOU KNOW IT YOU'RE TURNING ON
THE IGNITION OF A CAR. YOU KNOW
THOSE THINGS. THIS BILL IS ABOUT
FENTANYL EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
DISCUSSION IS ABOUT FENTANYL
BECAUSE I AGREE FENTANYL IS
TOXIC. THIS BILL ISN'T ABOUT
WHETHER YOU INTENDED TO SELL
MASTER INTENDED TO SELL COCAINE.
THIS IS ABOUT. FENTANYL AND THIS
BILL DOES NOT REQUIRE. IN TERMS
OF YOUR SALE THAT TRIGGERS A
WARNING DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO
HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST
INDICATION. THAT THERE WAS
FENTANYL IN THERE AND I THINK I
RESPECT WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HAVE.
IF IT PASSES A LOT OF UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES AND SWEET AND A LOT
OF PEOPLE. THAT ARE THAT A LOT
OF PEOPLE WOULD BE SURPRISED
WOULD BE SWEPT IN AND YOU KNOW.
YEAH AND SO THE I JUST WANNA BE
REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT THE SAME
AS WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK YOU YOU'D
YOU KNOW ONCE YOU'VE HAD
SOMETHING TO DRINK AND TO YOUR
DRIVING. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR
ABOVE THE LIMIT THE PROSECUTION
DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVE GOAL BY
THE WAY. I KNOW I'VE HIT TWENTY
FOUR BEERS SO THEREFORE I AM
DRUNK ALL THE PROSECUTION NEED
BE PROVEN ALL WE WOULD WANT THE
PROSECUTION TO PROVE. IS THAT
YOU'VE HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK YOU
KNEW YOU WERE DRINKING. BY THE
WAY THAT ADVICE INCOMES EVEN IF
FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU SAID I
DIDN'T KNOW I WAS ADJUSTING
ALCOHOL IF YOU'RE CONVICTED.
THEN YOU GET THE ADVISEMENT THE
SAME THING HERE IF YOU KNOW YOUR
SELLING SOMETHING ILLEGAL AND
YOU MUST KNOW THAT. ENDED
CONTAINS FENTANYL YOU GET ON THE
ADVISED YES I'VE I'VE- I THINK I
WAS AND I ONE LAST THING I JUST
WANT TO POINT OUT THE THIS BILL
ALSO IS NOT EVEN LIMITED TO
SELLING IS TRANSPORTING. IT'S
IMPORTANT SO IF YOU ARE SOMEONE
WHO IS. TRANSPORTING EVEN IF YOU
DIDN'T ACTUALLY SELL THE DRUGS.
THAT'S ALSO SO THIS IS THIS IS A
VERY BROAD BILL. YEAH I NEED TO
PUT AYE WE ALL AGREE THIS IS
THIS IS A BIG TIME I DON'T THINK
THIS IS THE SOLUTION IS GOING TO
HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU M. THE
PUBLIC IS NOW ALLOWED TO SPEAK
AT TIME IN I HOPE. FOR THAT- SO
WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A LITTLE
LEVEL OF DECORUM. HERE FOR
EVERYBODY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO RESPECTFULLY SHARE THEIR-
COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS- SO WE
WILL NOW. DO YOU HAVE. ELSE AT
THIS MOMENT TO SENATOR I HOPE
LIKE I THINK WE'VE- WE'RE VERY
FAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER'S POINT
OF VIEW. OKAY IN THAT CASE WILL
CONDUCT WILL RESUME OUR
TESTIMONIES VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE. A SERVICE AND-
AND SO JUST AS A REMINDER WE'RE
CURRENTLY TAKING WITNESSES GET
THE TELECONFERENCE ARVEST. BOTH
IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO S.
B. FORTY FOUR MISTER MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE- PROMPT ARE.
AT WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB FORTY FOUR AND
WILL BEGIN. WHAT DO AS MADAM
CHAIR INDICATED IF YOUR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL
FORTY FOUR PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
. MY ONE THIRTY EIGHT YOUR OPEN
. YES HI LARA BUSTER PUBLIC M.
AND DECISION A FAN I'M IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. WE WILL GO
TO LINE FIFTY NINE YOU ARE OPEN
. I'D LIKE FIFTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD WE CAN HEAR YOU. ONE MORE
SHOT LINE FIFTY NINE. I WILL GO
TO LINE ONE TWENTY EIGHT PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE
CAPELO. AND MY DAUGHTER
ALEXANDRA WHO'S A VICTIM OF THAT
ALL POLICING AND I'M IN STRONG
SUPPORT. NINE THREE HUNDRED
TWELVE YOU ARE OPEN. HI THERE
SHERMAN ADAMI INITIATE JUSTICE
ACTION IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
THREE FOURTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YES THE ONLY THING AND THE
PRECISION ADVOCACY ON BEHALF ON
BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THREE
EIGHTEEN YOU ARE OPEN.
DEVELOPMENT GARBETT MAKE BAD ON
BEHALF OF SAN FRANCISCO DISTRICT
ATTORNEY BROOKE JENKINS WHO IS
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB FORTY
FOUR. YOUR LINE IS OPEN THREE
NINETEEN. EFFECTIVE MANNER
PERFECT THANKS MY BROTHER EVEN.
I'M EIGHT LEVEL FOUND. THE
FOURTEENTH JOHN WE CAN'T. GO
AHEAD LINE EIGHTY EIGHT. ONE
EIGHTY EIGHT PLEASE ON MUTE.
LINE ONE EIGHTY EIGHT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO TESTIFY. ONE WHAT CAN I
AM IN SUPPORT OF SB FORTY FOUR
IN MEMORY OF MY DAUGHTER OF THE
CHICAGO NATIVE WHO ACQUITTED
FROM FAT NOW. NINETY TWO EIGHTY
ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY TWO
EIGHTY ONE YOU ARE OPEN. HELLO
MY NAME IS PAM JIM CALCIUM
HEARTBROKEN IN. OF A VICTIM OF
FENTANYL POISONING AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL SB
FORTY FOUR. TWENTY THREE TWENTY
ONE YOU ARE OPEN. JOANNE'S
SPIRIT IN SUPPORT OF MY SON
ZACHARY. QUESTION MY FEDERAL. IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB FORTY FOUR
HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO DIE. LINE
THREE SIXTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO GO AHEAD THANK YOU HI MY
NAME IS JENNIFER JOHNSON I'M
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF SB FORTY
FOUR I AM THE BRIEF PARENTS OF
MY SON ERIC TRUMP DOES WHO DIED
FROM BUT NOT WHEN HOW MANY MORE
HAVE TO DIE. YOU ARE OPENLY
THREE HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT.
HELLO HI THIS IS LIAM MOORE I'M
IN STRONG FAVOR OF SB FORTY FOUR
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE-
CALLING IN REPRESENTATION OF
LOST FRIENDS J. KAMENICE ENERGY
GETS HERE GUTERRES HOW MANY
LINES HAVE TO BE LOST BEFORE WE
TAKE A THE SITUATION. THREE
HUNDRED TWENTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS DOMINIQUE
BURKE MAN AND I'M CALLING ON
BEHALF OF MY FANS SEVEN JACOB
LOOKED AT BERGMAN THE DIET. AND
A LITTLE BIT YEAR AND MAKE THAT
**** UP. FROM FAT AVE. IF
COOKING. WITH LAW IN MANHATTAN
RIGHT THAT MORE. I'M I'M IN ON
THE PART ABOUT IT FOR FOUR NEXT
CALLER PLEASE. THREE THREE YOU
ARE OPEN. HELLO MY NAME IS ARGHA
LOW EMERGED STRONGER. LONG
BEFORE. THE BILL SB FOUR IN
MEMORY OF MY DEAR FRIEND
CHRISTIAN. AND WILL BE. THANK
YOU THANK YOU. YOUR ONLINE THREE
HUNDRED THIRTY ONE. GOOD MORNING
THE ROCKET- REPRESENT BACK THERE
IT WITH THE BIG OF POISONING IN
SUPPORT AT THE FORTY FOUR THANK
YOU. THREE THIRTY TWO PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THREE THIRTY YOUR- I WILL
MOVE JULY. THREE TWO THREE.
HELLO MY NAME IS MARLENE AND I
AM REPRESENTING MY BROTHER EACH
YEAR AND A HALF YEARS. PART OF
THE ADRIN FOREVER FOUNDATION AND
I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF SB
FORTY FOUR WE BEG YOU PLEASE.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN LINE. THREE
THIRTY TO THREE THIRTY TWO. YEAH
HI THIS IS JAMIE A RIEN COUNTY
I'M CALLING IN ON BEHALF OF ALL
OF THESE HEART BREAKING
TESTIMONY FAMILIES HAVE BLOCKED
THEIR LEFT WENT AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR IT TIME TO
HEAR THE PEOPLE IN TAKE A STAND
. PLEASE GO AHEAD LINE THREE
THIRTY FOUR. HELLO MY NAME IS
JESSICA SANDERS WHO LIKE A
CALIFORNIA I'M STRONG SUPPORTER
OF SB FORTY FOUR IN HONOR OF MY
BROTHER JAKE WITH ANY BY. THREE
THIRTY FIVE YOU ARE. MADAM CHAIR
. BOW BILL ON THE OF YOU P. S.
AND BRUCE DOUBLE DEMERIT CRAIG.
FOR THREE THIRTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
. DEBORAH DURAN I EIGHT COURSE.
FOR THE LOS ANGELES UNIFIED
SCHOOL DISTRICT. I AM ALSO PART
OF THE FORTY FOUR MY SON WAS
EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS
DECEIVED TO DEATH BY FENTANYL.
THANK THREE FORTY ONE YOU ARE
OPEN. THANK. THREE FORTY ONE.
THIS IS CAROLYN BACA FROM GILROY
CALIFORNIA. IN STRONG SUPPORT.
OF SB FORTY FOUR IN HONOR OF MY
SON JACOB FOREVER TWENTY FLOORS
HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO DIE STE.
GLADLY THREE FORTY TWO. AND WILL
BE A POLICE SHOT HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD
AND BEVERLY HILLS IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. LIKE THREE FORTY FIVE
YOU ARE OPEN. THANK THREE FORTY
FIVE CAN YOU HEAR. FOR G. THE
FORTY FIVE YOUR OPEN. HELLO
YOU'RE THE LAST PERSON. GO AHEAD
. MY NAME IS MANAGEMENT
CERVANTES AND I'M REPRESENTING A
FRIEND BACK REPAIR AT FROM
SENTINEL DEBATE THE NEW AND I
LOOK I THINK. FORTY FOUR. MY TO
NINETY FOUR PER GO AHEAD. THE
NEW OKAY HI MY NAME IS CHRISTINA
ALEXANDER. I THOUGHT EIGHT FOUR
FOUR IBM THE. FOR WHICH IS. WHY
YOU FOR THANK YOU ARE OPEN. YEAH
HI I'M LISA I NEED SHE AND
HEARING AS- WHO BELIEVE CAUSE OF
DEATH POLITICIAN. IN WILL TAKE A
STAND. THREE SEVEN YOU ARE ALSO
THE STAIRS AND- MY NAME IS MONTY
LENDERS TO MAKE A CAL. AND
STRONG SUPPORT THIS ONE OF MY IN
LAW.
THREE FIFTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. WHICH. YOU ARE POLITE.
THREE FIFTY THREE. FIFTY THREE
ARE YOU MUTED. HELLO GO AHEAD.
THIS IS JULIE MAY. IN SUPPORT OF
SB FORTY FOUR IN HONOR OF MY
DAUGHTER GET THE CARE NAY IT
WORKED FOR THE MOTHERS AGAINST
DRUNK DRIVING THE WATSON BELL
AND IT NEEDS TO WORK FOR THIS.
FENTANYL POISONING. WELL I GIVE
A QUICK REMINDER FOR FINAL
OPPORTUNITY TO- TESTIFY ON S. B.
FOUR FOUR PLEASE PRESS PRESS ONE
ZERO THREE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL I THREE
FIFTY SEVEN YOU ARE OPEN. THREE
FIFTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
WILL MOVE ALONG THE LINE ONE
SIXTY FOUR. MY NAME IS FELICIA
LISTENER AND REPRESENT MY SON
JAGGER A VICTIM OF FEDERAL
POISONING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. ONE EIGHTY EIGHT YOU
ARE OPEN. THEY TOOK THEMSELVES
OUT OF Q. ONE MOVE ALONG TO LINE
THREE SIXTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU THIS IS A PROGRESSION
FROM THE TO WORK WITH HIM
COALITION POLICY ASSOCIATE.
CALLING IN FRONT OPPOSITION SB
ONE CORE COOL. ONE FORTY PLEASE
GO AHEAD. ONE FORTY SEVEN YOU
ARE OPEN. HI. WE LAST YEAR ARE
YOU STILL THERE. HELLO CAN YOU
HEAR ME YES. I AM I AM IN
SUPPORT OF THE FORTY FOUR MY
BROTHER HAD DIED AT THE AGE OF
TWENTY FOUR AND HE HAD SPENT NOT
IN HIS ROOM PLEASE PASS THIS
BILL. THANK NINETY FOUR PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD ENOUGH FOR A
DENTIST WHO ARE SUPPORT THE BILL
. LINE THREE FORTY NINE YOU ARE
OPEN. NINE THREE FORTY NINE
PLEASE ON MUTE. HELLO MY NAME
ALLOCATOR THANK YOU FOR. S. B.
FORTY FOUR. ONE THREE FIFTY ONE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK AND I
REPRESENT AFFECT SOME OF BUT NOT
POISONING I OR S. B. FORTY FOUR.
YOU ARE OPEN LINE THREE SIXTY
ONE. OUR FROM COLUMBUS OHIO AND
I SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR ON
SENTINEL IS POISONING AND
KILLING OUR KIDS AND IN MEMORY
OF MY KNEE AB CROWD. WHITNEY
SPENCER AND BRANDON DOCTRINE AS
WELL AS AUSTIN LAMB WE NEED IT
SB FORTY FOUR BILL PASSED IN
OHIO. NINE THREE SEVEN TWO
MISTER MODERATOR JUST A AS- WE
JUST WANT TO KNOW THEY WERE
PROBABLY GONNA HOPE NOT PROBABLY
WE'RE GOING TO STAY OPEN FOR
ANOTHER TWO MINUTES FOR AND
TESTIMONIES GET THE
TELECONFERENCE SO THOSE THAT ARE
LISTENING PLEASE TRY TO. STATE
YOUR NAME YOUR POSITION AND
ORGANIZATION AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE WE WANT TO GET
EVERYBODY OUT THROUGH AND IN THE
NEXT TWO MINUTES- THANK YOU.
PERFECT WE HAVE FOUR LEFT MADAM
CHAIR JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS
UP AND WE'LL GO TO LINE THREE
SIXTY FIVE. HI MY NAME IS
MARYANN BURKE AND I AM IN FULL
SUPPORT OF THAT THE FORTY FOUR
IN HONOR OF MY- NEPHEWS ZACHARY
GARRETT. AND EVERY OTHER CHILD
KILLED FIVE WOBBLE WOBBLE THINGS
. I THREE SIXTY SEVEN YOU ARE
OPEN. THE VOTERS IN THE GIRLS
CALIFORNIANS STRONG SUPPORT.
THREE SIXTY EIGHT PLEASE GO
AHEAD. EMAIL WITH LOGIN IN
ORANGE COUNTY CALIFORNIA IN
STRONG SUPPORT IN HONOR OF MY
BROTHER DOMINIC DELUCA. MY AGE
FIFTY NINE YOU ARE OPEN. THANKS
AGAIN FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY
DRAMATIC. WORK WELL. AND MATTER
WE WERE ABLE GET THROUGH.
WONDERFUL I'M SO GRATEFUL WHEN
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SHARE THEIR COMMENTS- AND THEIR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION IN THE
BILL THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS- AT THIS
TIME AND SEE NO OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WILL
NOT BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS- FROM OUR MEMBERS
REMEMBER. AT THIS TIME. SENATE
SKINNER. THANK YOU MADAM VICE
CHAIR- I WANTED TO RAISE THE A
SIMILAR ISSUE TO WHAT AND MY
COLLEAGUES A SENATOR WIENER.
BRACED. AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE
HERE. IS FRUSTRATED. AND FEELS
THAT WE ARE BLOCKING SOMETHING
THAT WOULD- ADVANCE. THAT WOULD
LIMIT OVERDOSE DEATHS. THE
CONCERN IS THAT. THERE IS NO.
REAL EVIDENCE THAT THIS WOULD IN
FACT LIMIT OVERDOSE DEATHS. AND
I KNOW THAT IS NOT CERTIFY. IF
ANYONE. VERY CLOSE TO ME OR IN
MY DIRECT FAMILY. DIED FROM A
FENTANYL OVERDOSE DEATH I CAN
APPRECIATE NOT WANTING TO HEAR
THAT. BUT S. SENATOR WIENER
POINTED OUT. THIS IS NOT THE
SAME AS THE WATSON ADVISEMENT IN
OR DO YOU I TELL. AND I- I FAULT
MYSELF FOR NOT. BRINGING THIS UP
IN THE PAST TIME HEARING I DID
BRING UP THE ISSUE OF THE WATSON
ADVISEMENT. ADMONISHMENTS SKEWS
ME BUT EVEN NOT BRING UP THE
WEIGHT THE COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS
IS THREATENED BECAUSE THE
COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS. UPON
READING IT WOULD GIVE ONE THE
IMPRESSION THAT THE WAY THIS.
AND ADVISEMENT IS STRUCTURED IS
COMPARABLE IN FACT THE
COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS SAYS IT
MIRRORS. THIS BILL DOES NOT
MIRROR THE WATSON ADMONISHMENT
IT DOES NOT AND I HOPE THAT WE
CAN CORRECT THE ANALYSIS AND
ESPECIALLY WITH THE WITH THE
ADDITION FOR THE MAMMOTH THAT
YOU'VE MADE. IT AND- WE DID NOT
UPDATE THE ANALYSIS TO REFLECT
THAT. BUT. LET ME BE SPECIFIC
ONE SECOND.
THE. THE WATSON ADMONISHMENT.
STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT THE.
WELL STATE SPECIFICALLY IS
RATHER THAT A PERSON WHO WAS. IN
A. D. Y. AND CONVICTED OF
DELIGHT ISN'T AWARE THAT THEY
WERE INTOXICATED THERE IS
KNOWLEDGE. AND SO IT'S ALREADY
PREDICATED ON THE KNOWLEDGE.
THIS BILL IS WRITTEN. THAT THE
SELLER IN THE FIRST CASE BECAUSE
THEY ARE TOLD. AT THE POINT OF
THE- CONVICTION THAT THE ITEM
THAT THEY SOLD HAD FEDERAL THAT
THAT IN AND OF ITSELF CREATES
THE KNOWLEDGE. THAT PERSON MAY
NOT HAVE HAD THAT KNOWLEDGE AND
SO THAT ADDITION IS NOT THAT
DOES NOT. CREATE THE KNOWLEDGE
SO IT'S FIVE. I'M NOT A LAWYER
SO MY APOLOGIES FOR IF I AM
EXPLAINING IT IN A WAY THAT MAY
NOT BE AS- IS ACCURATE FOR ME
LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. BUT THE POINT
IS THAT. THERE HAS TO BE
KNOWLEDGE NOW ONE OF THE SITE
ONE OF THE- WE PUT IT A
DIFFERENT WAY OUR CURRENT LAW.
IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS
FENTANYL. IN THE DRUG YOU SOLD.
CURRENT LAW NOW ALLOWS YOU TO BE
CONVICTED OF MANSLAUGHTER IF
THERE IS A DEATH WHETHER IT'S
THE FIRST TIME OR THE SECOND
TIME THAT KNOWLEDGE ALONE IS
ADEQUATE FOR SUPPORTING A
MANSLAUGHTER CONVICTION. SO THAT
ALREADY EXISTS IN CURRENT LAW
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US TO APPRECIATE
THAT. IT EXISTS. ARMS
ADDITIONALLY THE ARMS. THE LINE
. IN IN THE THIS ADMONISHMENT IS
STATES THAT. ALL ILLICIT DRUGS
AND COUNTERFEIT PILLS ARE
DANGEROUS TO HUMAN LIFE. AND IT
IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND
DEADLY TO SELL OR ADMINISTER
DRUGS IN ANY FORM WE'RE NOT
AUTHORIZED TO DO SO. NOW THIS
THESE MAY SEEM LIKE RIDICULOUS
POINTS THAT. MAKE NO SENSE FROM
WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH. IF THIS WERE
EXPLICIT THAT. ILLICIT DRUGS
CONTAINING FENTANYL ARE
DANGEROUS TO HUMAN LIFE. THEN IT
WOULD RELATE SPECIFICALLY TO
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH
HERE BUT IT DOES NOT AND THAT
WAS OFFERED. TO THE SENATOR TO
MODIFY. THAT LANGUAGE TO STATE
THAT BECAUSE ALL ILLICIT DRUGS
MEANING ANY DRUG IS SOLD IN AN
ILLICIT MARKET VERSUS IN A
LAWFUL MARKET IS NOT
NECESSARILY. DANGEROUS TO HUMAN
LIFE WERE DEADLY. AND WHEN WE
ARE. HEY IN THIS COMMITTEE WHEN
WE ARE ACTING IN PUTTING
SOMETHING INTO STATUTE WE HAVE
TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE POTENTIAL
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. AND
THAT IS A POTENTIAL UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCE. SO AGAIN THE
SENATOR WAS GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO NARROW IT AND THE
SENATOR CHOSE NOT TO. ON.
THE LAST PART. THAT INDICATING.
THAT THE DRUGS COULD SOMETIMES
ON BEING MIXED WITH FENTANYL.
DOES NOT. IMPLIES AGAIN THAT IN
THE NEXT CAN FICTION THAT THE
PERSON KNOWINGLY. UNDERSTOOD
KNEW THAT. THE TROUBLE WITH THE
. THE WAY OUR COURTS AND LEGAL
SYSTEM WORKS IS THAT KNOWLEDGE
HAS TO BE REAL KNOWLEDGE IT
CANNOT BE THE FACT THAT. WE HAVE
UNFORTUNATELY A TERRIBLE
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT THERE ARE
PRODUCERS OF THINGS THAT THEY
SAY ARE PERCOCET OR OXYCONTIN.
THAT THEN PUT FEYENOORD. AND THE
FACT THAT SOMEONE. PURCHASED
PERCOCET OR OXYCONTIN THINKING
THAT IT WAS PERCOCET OR
OXYCONTIN. THAT WE WOULD SET UP
AN ADMONISHMENT THAT IMMEDIATELY
ASSUMED THAT THEN. THEY
KNOWINGLY KNEW IT WAS FENTANYL
IS JUST INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE
THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES MANY
WHERE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE AND
AS WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER
WITNESSES. WE ARE NOT WE IT IS
NOT IN ANY OF OUR INTEREST TO
HAVE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE LET US
JUST USE YOU KNOW A GROUP OF
YOUNG PEOPLE WHERE ONE GROUP OF
ONE PERSON IN THAT GROUP. AND
UNFORTUNATELY WE NEVER SEE OUR-
I AM SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR
THOUGHT PROCESS BUT I HAVE TO GO
IN YES I HAVE TO GO IN AND CLOSE
OUT MY VOTES ARE WAS NOT
INCONVENIENT IN HERE ALL THE
TIME BUT BEFORE I LEAVE I JUST
WANTED TO- MAKE SURE I ATE AT
AUSTIN QUESTIONS AND THEN- I
WILL LEAVE IN GIVE THE
OPPORTUNITY CENTER ON BURKE TO
RESPOND. I WELL AND ON JUST TO
HAVE IT ON RECORD AT THAT IS
OKAY WOULD YOU MIND IF I LEAVE
MY SINCE I COULD WRAP UP OKAY I
THINK YOU SAID THAT. IF I CAN
GET BACK TO WHAT I WAS TRYING AT
I AM SO SORRY. ANYWAY THE POINT
BEING. WE NOW KNOW THAT YOU CAN
PROCURE FENTANYL LACED DRUGS ON
THE INTERNET FASTER THAN YOU CAN
ORDER AN UBER A LIFT. SO LET'S
SAY YOU'RE A YOUNG PERSON WHO
DID CAN YOU PROCURE TEN PERC
SETS. YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS
ACTUALLY TEN PER CASSETTES. AND
YOU SELL SOME OF THOSE PURPOSE
SETS TO ANOTHER FRIEND. YOU DO
NOT. LEAVE THAT THERE IS SPENT
NO IN THEM. OKAY NO LEVEL OF
DECORUM PLEASE. AND YOU HAD SOLD
PER CASSETTES BEFORE. AND THERE
WAS NO. FAT NO IN IT. THE FACT
THAT YOU ARE COULD BE FEARFUL
THAT. IF THE PERSON'S OVERDOSING
THAT YOU COULD BE CONVICTED.
THAT THAT WOULD LEAD TO THAN TO
NOT CALL NINE ONE ONE. AND
INTERVENE IN THE OVERDOSE THESE
ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE ARE
TRYING TO AVOID. WE HAVE BILLS
IN THE SENATE OR HOUSE ONE I
HAVE ONE TWO HOLDERS SOCIAL
MEDIA. COMPANIES FOR EXAMPLE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR QUICK
SERVICE YES AND WE ARE AND LET
EXCUSE ME SORRY. EXCUSE ME. I'M
SORRY. HERE OKAY THANK YOU
SENATOR ROBERT ANYWAY. I'M AGAIN
I APPRECIATE. THE DIFFICULTY OF
THIS DISCUSSION HOWEVER AND I
AND I DO FEEL FRUSTRATED THAT
OUR COMMITTEE ANALYSIS REFLECTS
THAT THIS IS A MIRROR OF THE
WATSON ADMONISHMENT WHEN IT IS
NOT. IF THIS MIRRORED THE WATSON
ADMONISHMENT I WOULD BE AND I
FELT AND WE HAVE OFFERED TO
SENATOR ON BURKE A NUMBER OF
TIMES LANGUAGE THAT WOULD MERE
THE WATSON ADMONISHMENT. AND I
HAVE COMMITTED TO HIM I WOULD
VOTE HI I CANNOT VOTE I IN ITS
CURRENT FORM. THANK YOU CENTERS
SKINNER- I HAVE A STATEMENT TO
MAKE AND THEN A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS AND THEN I WILL BE
HAPPY TO MOVE THE- HAPPY TO.
MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL-
EARLIER THIS MONTH ON APRIL
SECOND SIXTEEN THOUSAND FENTANYL
PILLS WERE SEIZED DURING TRAFFIC
STOP IN ST BERNARD DINO. MY
DISTRICT AND CITY LESS THAN TWO
WEEKS EARLIER THE SAN BRUNO
POLICE DEPARTMENT SEIZED AN
ESTIMATED TWENTY THREE KILOGRAMS
OF POWDERED FENTANYL WHICH IS
ENOUGH TO KILL ELEVEN POINT FIVE
MILLION PEOPLE LAST FRIDAY
GOVERNOR NEWSOM DIRECTED THE
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL THE
NATIONAL GUARD TO ASSIST THE
CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO IN
COMBATING. FENTANYL TRAFFICKING
SAYING THAT THERE IS MORE WE
MUST DO TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS SPECIALLY THE FENTANYL
CRISIS THE GOVERNOR'S PRESS
RELEASE STATED THAT THE
INCREASES SYSTEM IS IN RESPONSE
TO THE OVER 40% JUMP IN OVERDOSE
DEATHS IN SAN FRANCISCO. FROM
JANUARY TO MARCH OF THIS YEAR
BUT SAN FRANCISCO IS NOT ALONE.
IN TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN
THERE WERE FIFTY TWO FENTANYL
DEATHS IN. RIVERSIDE COUNTY IN
TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE THERE
WERE FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT
WHICH IS A SIX HUNDRED AND 85%
INCREASE. IN TWO THOUSAND AND
EIGHTEEN THEY WERE THIRTY
FENTANYL DEATHS IN SAN MARINO
COUNTY IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE
THERE WERE THREE HUNDRED AND
FOURTEEN WHICH IS AT NINE
HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN
INCREASE. PERCENT INCREASE. MY
FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. ARE- AS
STATED SB FORTY FORTY FOUR. IS
THE SAME AS THE WATSON
ADVISEMENT FOR DO YOU EYES ARE
YOU AWARE SENATOR- BURKE OF ANY
REPEAT DUI CASES RESULTING IN
MURDER WHERE THE DEFENDANT OR
THEIR ATTORNEYS CLAIM THE
PROCESS WAS MISUSED OR- UNFAIR.
IN THIS SB FORTY FOUR AT
MANAGEMENT TAKE THE PLACE OF
EVIDENCE. NEEDED FOR A MURDER
CONVICTION. AND IN ADDITION TO
THAT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND I
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON RECORD-
THE NOTION ON WHETHER OR NOT
THIS BILL CRIMINALIZES. FURTHER
THE VICTIMS AND- AND YOUR
DEFINITION OF KNOWN OR SHOULD
HAVE KNOWN WILL BE GREAT THANK
YOU SO MUCH AND I. DO HAVE TO
LEAVE AND I APOLOGIZE I HAVE TO
CLOSE OUT MY BILLS IN A IN A
DIFFERENT COMMITTEE BUT I WILL
BE HAPPY TO PASS ON THE GAVEL TO
SENATOR WITH. FOR YOUR MOTIONS-
OKAY. I WAS BORN. ANOTHER GUY
HAS IN THE- CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE I AM TO MAKE A MOTION
TO MOVE THE BILL. AND IT WOULD
BE HAPPY TO HEAR THE ANSWERS THE
QUESTIONS THANK YOU CENTER
NUMBER FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS
BILL AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN. VERY
CHALLENGING THANK YOU TO ALL
THE- WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION THEY WERE ABLE TO
MAKE IT HERE IN PERSON AND GET
THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS. CHOI
RESPOND- OTHER QUESTIONS YEAH.
ALL RIGHT- THERE'S A MOTION
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSER. WHERE
SHOULD HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED.
OKAY BUT- IF THERE'S NO OTHER
PROBLEMS WITH. THE ONE YOU I'LL
JUST I'LL I'LL ANSWER THAT IN MY
CLOTHES THAT'S- A QUESTION A
LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT QUESTION
ALL RIGHT RIGHT LET LET ME. TRY
TO TAKE THESE IN ORDER- FIRST
THIS IS THE WATSON ADVISEMENT.
ADMONISHMENT OR ADVISEMENT AS
THE CASE MAY BE UP. THE THIS
BILL IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE
THAN THE WATSON ADVISEMENT. TO
BE VERY VERY VERY CLEAR. TO GET
THE WATSON IT MARKED
ADMONISHMENT OR ADVISEMENT YOU
NEED NOT KNOW THAT YOU'RE
DRIVING DRUNK AT THE TIME YOU
WERE DRIVING. YOU GET THAT IT
VICE MEANT YOU GET STARTED VICE
MEANT UP YOU HAVE TO CALL AN
EXPERT. YOU GET THAT ADVISEMENT
IF YOU ARE CONVICTED IF YOU ARE
CONVICTED OF DRIVING UNDER THE
INFLUENCE YOU GET THE ADVISEMENT
THE PROSECUTION NEED NOT PROVE
NOT ONLY WERE YOU DRIVING BEYOND
THE LIMIT BUT THAT THE TIME YOU
GOT IN THE CAR YOU KNEW YOU WERE
DRIVING DOWN THE LIMIT. THAT'S
SIMPLY NOT THE CASE JUST LIKE
HERE AND WE WILL MAKE OUR
ADVISEMENT. A MIRROR IMAGE IF
THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THE
KNOWLEDGE PART IS NOT PART OF
THE WATSON VISOR WILL MAKE OUR
BILL A MIRROR IMAGE IN TERMS OF
REQUIRING THAT THE- INDIVIDUAL
ON THEIR SECOND. TIME THEY'RE
CONVICTED. OF WE'VE ALREADY
ADELINE WAS THEY KNEW OR SHOULD
HAVE KNOWN THE SECOND TIME
THEY'RE CONVICTED THAT THEY WERE
SELLING FENNEL WILL ADD THAT THE
I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY
SUGGESTING THAT WE ADD FENNEL TO
THE PHRASE. YOU ARE HEREBY
ADVISED THAT THE ILLICIT DRUGS
AND COUNTERFEIT PILLS CONTAINED
FENTANYL BUT WILL ADD THAT
THAT'S FINE THAT'S FINE. BUT BUT
THE BUT THE REQUIREMENT. JUST
LIKE IN DRUNK DRIVING THAT YOU
SOMEHOW HAVE. FOR KNOWLEDGE IN
THE PROSECUTION NEED PROVE YOUR
FOR KNOWLEDGE IS NOT PART OF THE
NOT PART OF THE ADVISEMENT. NOW
THIS IS THIS THIS ADVISEMENT OR
ADMONISHMENT. YOU GET IT WHEN
YOU'VE SOLD FENTANYL. THE SECOND
TIME YOU SELF AT NO AND YOU KILL
SOMEBODY THAT'S- IT IT JUST LIKE
IN ALL OTHER CRIMES. THAT IS
THAT'S PART OF THE ENHANCEMENT
NOW IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY
COME IN THERE'S STILL A PROCESS
OF A PROSECUTION TRIES THE
OFFER. YOU YOUR PRIOR KNOWLEDGE-
THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS THIS IS
SENATOR WIENER KNOWS THE- EVENTS
CODE THREE FIFTY PROCESS AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS
PREJUDICIAL BE ON PROBATIVE
MISS. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO
MAKE IT CLEAR AND I'LL BE HAPPY.
TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IF THIS
BILL PASSES OUT AND YOU DON'T
BELIEVE THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE
MIRRORING. THE WATSON ADVISEMENT
. THEN BY ALL MEANS BRING IT
BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE. AND THEN
AYE ARJUN AYE VOTE. WHAT YEAH. I
MEAN IT'S IT. YEAH I MEAN I
CENTER WE'VE YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
WE'VE YOU KNOW THE COMMITTEE HAS
WORKED INTENSIVELY WITH YOU. YOU
AND I'VE HAD YOU KNOW LIKE THE
CONVERSATION WHICH I
APPRECIATED- AND WITH OTHER
MEMBERS AS WELL SO I AT THIS
POINT THE BILLS IT'S- YOU KNOW
WE DOZEN PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY
TO- TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE'S
CONCERNS. SO BOB BY MY RESPONSE
OF. IT I THINK THAT THE
COMMITTEES CONCERNED THAT AS WAS
RAISED TODAY THAT SOMEHOW FOR A
WATSON ADVISEMENT OR
ADMONISHMENT THAT YOU NEEDED
HAVE FOREKNOWLEDGE BEFORE
GETTING IN THE VEHICLE. YOU
NEEDED TO KNOW YOU'RE DRIVING
DRUNK THAT'S THAT'S NOT ACCURATE
IT'S SIMPLY NOT ACCURATE AND-
BUT WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF FOLKS
WHO ARE EXPERT WITNESSES THAT
IF- SOMEBODY WELL. FROM THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S I THINK WITH
US BUT- RIGHT NOW. OKAY SO YOU
MAY CLOSE I'VE- MY REGION VOTE
OKAY- WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR JOE BOGO ON SP FORTY
FOUR AND THAT WOULD BE A MOTION
TO PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS- PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. SENATOR WAHHAB THAT SHOW
ABOUT. BRADFORD SKINNER. WIENER
. BILLS ON CALL. THANK YOU.
OKAY- RECEIVE HER EL DORADO GOAL
IS YOUR- I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
OFFER. AND YOUR- FEDERAL. MY GOD
I THINK HE MAKES OFF WITH.
NUMBER. I THINK YOU'RE MIKE SAW
CENTER. SORRY IN THE SEVEN S. B.
TWO TWENTY SIX OR WOULD YOU LIKE
PRESENT THE ONE FOR A TO MISSION
RUSSIA THAT TWENTY BECAUSE OF MY
WITNESS DOES NEED TO LEAVE OKAY-
CENTER OPERATOR GOES THREE BILLS
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH FILE
ITEM NINE SB EIGHT TWENTY. EIGHT
THANK YOU SO MUCH WHICH LIKE ME
TO WAIT FOR THOSE TO EXETER- DO
YOU WANT NO YOU MAY CONTINUE ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH. RIGHT
HUMM THANK YOU CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE I COME BEFORE YOU
AGAIN- TODAY WITH SENATE BILL
EIGHT TWENTY- THE ILLEGAL
CANNABIS ECOSYSTEM HAS CAUSED
MAJOR ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL
DAMAGE IN CALIFORNIA. MANY OF
OUR STATE'S ESTIMATED FIFTY
THOUSAND ILLEGAL CULTIVATION
SITES HAVE BEEN FOUND TO USE
BANNED PESTICIDES THAT POISON
WILDLIFE AND OUR WATER SUPPLIES
AND ARE BELIEVED TO ACCOUNT FOR
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS
OF WATER STOLEN FROM OUR FARMS
AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES EACH
YEAR. SENATE EIGHT SENATE BILL
EIGHT TWENTY SIMPLY ADOPTS THE
SAME CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
PROCESSES CURRENTLY APPLICABLE
TO UNLICENSED MANUFACTURING OF
ALCOHOL BEVERAGES OR MOON
SHINING AS IT USED TO BE CALLED.
TO APPLY TO UNLICENSED
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS TO
ACT AS A DETERRENT TO ILLICIT
OPERATORS AND THUS PROMOTE THE
ENTRANCE INTO THE LEGAL
REGULATED CANNABIS MARKET. THIS
BILL WOULD UPON JUDGMENT IN
FAVOR OF THE FORFEITURE ALLOW
THESE ASSETS TO BE SOLD AT
PUBLIC AUCTIONS BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS CONTROL
OR BY THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.
THE MAJORITY OF FUNDS WOULD BE
DEPOSITED INTO THE CANNABIS
CONTROL FUND WHICH IS TO BE USED
TO CARRY OUT PROVISIONS OF THE
CALIFORNIA CANNABIS EQUITY ACT.
IT'S VITAL NOT ONLY TO SHUT DOWN
BAD ACTORS BUT TO SUPPORT
LICENSED CANNABIS BUSINESSES
THAT ENHANCE RELIABLE ACCESS TO
REGULATED TESTED CANNABIS IN THE
LEGAL MARKET. I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK THE STAFF OF THE COMMITTEE
TO WORKING WITH MY STAFF- ON
AMENDMENTS WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND ARE
COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT
ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS REGARDING
PLANT NUMBERS. AND PROCEEDS
DISTRIBUTION. SPECIFICALLY THE
AMENDMENTS WOULD INCREASE THE
PLANT THRESHOLD AND RESTRUCTURE
THE LOCAL DISTRIBUTION 215% WITH
THE REMAINING PROCEEDS GOING
INTO THE CANNABIS CONTROL FUND
TO FURTHER SUPPORT SOCIAL EQUITY
GRANTS WERE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY
THE WAR ON DRUGS. HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
IS THERE A TICKET FROM THE RURAL
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA. AND SUPERVISOR
KATHLEEN HALF FROM TO ALL MEET
COUNTY. THANK YOU AND CENTER I
JUST WANT TO COVERAGE IS TO MAKE
SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME BECAUSE
THERE WAS DISCUSSION AMONG THEM
AND SUGGESTING SO. IF JUST LET
ME KNOW IF I'M ACCURATELY SAYING
THIS THAT YOU'RE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS STATED IN THE
ANALYSIS- IN ADDITION. YOU'LL
AGREE TO INCREASE THE PLANT
THRESHOLD FROM FIFTY TO A
THOUSAND. THAT'S CORRECT AND
THEN- IN ADDITION TO THIS WHEN
CITIES ENGAGED IN THIS-
ACTIVITY- THERE- SHARE WOULD BE
WOULD IT WOULD LEAVE. TO
REIMBURSE THEM FOR THEIR COSTS
AND CONDUCTING OPERATION CAPPED
AT FIFTEEN FIFTEEN ONE FIVE
PERCENT. PER PERSON PLUS CITY
REASONS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
LOCAL DISTRIBUTION AT 15% NOT AN
EITHER OR- BUT I'M IT I AM
AMENABLE TO WORKING ON THAT
LANGUAGE IT WOULD NOT BE OVER
FIFTEEN PERCENT. BUT WE WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
CLEAR AND NOT ARBITRARY OKAY SO
THE 15% OF UP TO DONE THE
THOUSAND PER CENT THOUSAND
LANDAU'S IMPLANTS IS A PERSONAL.
PLUS THE AMENDMENTS OUTLINED IN
THE ANALYSIS THAT'S CORRECT OKAY
THANK YOU I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU WORKING WITH COURSE. THANK
YOU FOR ALL OF YOU WORKING WITH
ME ON THIS AS WELL. SO WILL MOVE
FORWARD WITH- WITH SUPERVISOR
KATHLEEN HOW FROM TWELVE ME
COUNTY. ALL RIGHT- HI CAN YOU
HEAR ME. OKAY GOOD MORNING- MY
NAME IS KATHLEEN HALF I'M THE
CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS FOR TONY COUNTY THAT
COUNTY DOWN SOUTH IT'S KIND OF
CLOSE TO YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK
. AND- GOOD MORNING SENATOR
WIENER AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE. EIGHT SB EIGHT
TWENTY ADAPTS THE SAME SEIZURE
OF PROPERTY PROVISIONS
CURRENTLY. APPLICABLE TO
UNLICENSED MANUFACTURING OF
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES YOU KNOW
LIKE MOONSHINING. TO COVER
UNLICENSED COMMERCIAL-
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES.
SO UNLIKE DRUG FORFEITURE
STATUTES THESE LAWS ARE ADAPTED
TO THE FACT THAT ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES ARE NOT INHERENTLY
UNLAWFUL. NO CRIMINAL CONVICTION
IS REQUIRED AND ANYONE WITH AN
INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY IS
GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE IN
A CIVIL. PROCEEDING THAT THE
PROPERTY WAS NOT USED UNLAWFULLY
. ALL RURAL COMMUNITIES EVEN THE
ONES WITH THE MOST EXPENSIVE
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS PROGRAMS
HAVE BEEN INUNDATED WITH
UNLICENSED AND UNREGULATED
CANNABIS ACTIVITY. AND THAT IS
UNDERMINING THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS AND ARE
REGULATED CANNABIS BUSINESSES.
THE SCALE OF THIS CRISIS IS
IMMENSE. AND HAS RECENTLY BEEN
HIGHLIGHTED IN AN INVESTIGATIVE
SERIES PUBLISHED LAST YEAR IN
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES
HIGHLIGHTING THE DRAMATIC
EXPANSION OF UNLICENSED
CULTIVATION AND THE NUMEROUS
CONSEQUENCES ASSOCIATED WITH
ILLICIT CANNABIS ACTIVITY.
INCLUDING AN INCREASE IN
CANNABIS RELATED VIOLENCE WORKER
EXPLOITATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL
DAMAGE. THE REALITY
UNFORTUNATELY IS THAT MANY
ILLICIT CANNABIS OPERATIONS ARE
ABLE TO QUICKLY RECOVER
FOLLOWING ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
NOT ONLY DO TO COMPLICIT
LANDLORDS BUT EXPLOITATION OF
WORKERS AND- REMAINING SPECIALTY
EQUIPMENT USED FOR THE
CULTIVATION AND MANUFACTURING OF
CANNABIS. JUST THIS MORNING ON
MY DRIVE UP HERE I WAS TALKING
TO THE TWENTY COUNTY SHERIFF AND
ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS.
AND HE HE- THOUGHT THAT WE-
SITES WERE THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW
CANNABIS CULTIVATION OR
BUSINESSES AND TWELVE ME COUNTY
THANK YOU HOWEVER IF YOU IF YOU
COULD WRAP UP OKAY. I'M JUST
FINISHING THIS ONE LAST HOWEVER
THIS BILL WOULD ENABLE OUR
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO SEIZE
SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT. AND
HOPEFULLY BE REIMBURSED FOR
THEIR EFFORTS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU VERY MUCH HE
SURPRISED. SERIKAT THE ROLE
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE OF
CALIFORNIA JUST QUICKLY THIS
BILL IS REALLY MEANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE GOING TO ENFORCE
WANTS TO THE PROBLEM OF ILLICIT
CANNABIS IS DEFINITELY ON THE
RISE EVEN IN COUNTIES WITHIN
MINUTES EXPANSIVE COMMERCIAL
CANNABIS ACTIVITIES AND OFTEN
TIME IS ACTUALLY ILLEGAL
OPERATORS ARE CALLING COUNTIES
COMPLAINING YOU HAVE TO DO
SOMETHING YOU NEED TO GO OUT.
AND RIGHT NOW ALL WE LITERALLY
ARE GETTING CALLS FROM OUR FROM
LIKE WITHIN TWENTY FOUR TO FORTY
HOURS A PLANS ARE BACK IN THE
GROUNDS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
GO IN WE'RE DOING ARE BEING MET
THE WE TAKE THE UNDERLYING
INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE I THINK
THE COMMITTEE STAFF AS WELL AS
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR YOUR
THOUGHTFUL AMENDMENTS. WE'RE
COMMITTED TO CONTINUE WORKING
WITH ALL OF YOU AS WELL AS THE
OPPOSITION. TO MAKE SURE THAT
THIS- THIS TOOL IS USED
APPROPRIATELY MYSELF AS WELL AS
OUR GENERAL COUNSEL- THREE LEAN
IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL- SUPPORT IN THE ROOM
FOR SB EIGHT TWENTY PLEASE COME
FORWARD. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND
AFFILIATION IF ANY- IS FOLLOWING
THE PATH OF SISKIYOU COUNTY
BOARD SURPRISES IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT. IN THE ROOM. C. NINE IS
THERE ANY OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM
IF SO PLEASE. COME FORWARD. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MY
NAME IS MIKE A DOCTOR OFTEN I'M
AN ATTORNEY AT THE ACLU OF
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HERE TODAY
ON BEHALF OF ACLU CALIFORNIA
ACTION. REGRETTABLY IN
OPPOSITION TO SB EIGHT TWENTY
WELL WE UNDERSTAND THE AUTHORS
GOAL OF ENFORCING CANNABIS
REGULATIONS WE FEAR THIS BILL
THREATENS TO UNDERMINE
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING AND WEAR
PROTECTIVE CIVIL ASSET
FORFEITURE SCHEME. PUTTING LOW
INCOME PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR AT RISK. JUST OVER SEVEN
YEARS AGO THIS COMMITTEE HEARD
AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED
AS BEFORE FOR THREE AUTHORED BY
SENATOR HOLLY MITCHELL. AS
BEFORE FOR FREE WITH THE
LANDMARK CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
REFORM DESIGNED TO PROTECT
VULNERABLE CALIFORNIANS FROM
GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. SB FOUR
FOUR THREE RECEIVED WIDE
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN THE
LEGISLATURE AND WAS ENDORSED BY
A REMARKABLY DIVERSE COALITION
INCLUDING PROMINENT LABOR LABOR
ORGANIZATIONS. MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS BUSINESS AND TAX PAYER
ASSOCIATIONS COMMUNITY GROUPS
MEMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT BAR
ASSOCIATION AND RELIGIOUS
LEADERS. CENTRAL TO US BEFORE
FOR THREE WITH THE BASIC PREMISE
THAT BEFORE A PERSON CAN HAVE
THEIR PROPERTY PERMANENTLY TAKEN
BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT PERSON
MUST FIRST BE CONVICTED OF AN
UNDERLYING CRIME. THE GOVERNMENT
MUST ALSO PROVE THAT THE
RELEVANT PROPERTIES CONNECTED
WITH THAT CRIME AND THE PERSON
MUST HAVE A MEANINGFUL
OPPORTUNITY TO CHALLENGE THE
SEIZURE WITHOUT SUCH PROTECTIONS
CIVIL FORFEITURE LAWS BECOME
RIGHT FOR ABUSE. LEAVING
PROPERTY OWNERS WITH LITTLE
RECOURSE TO DEFEND THEIR ASSETS.
WHILE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE CAN
AFFECT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IT IS
PARTICULARLY PERVASIVE IN
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND HERE IN CALIFORNIA
INVESTIGATIONS HAVE CONSISTENTLY
FOUND THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE
DISPROPORTIONATELY AT RISK OF
HAVING THEIR PROPERTY TAKEN
THROUGH CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE.
DUE TO BIASED ENFORCEMENT OF
CRIMINAL AND REGULATORY LAWS.
CALIFORNIA'S CANNABIS LAWS HAVE
ALREADY BEEN USED DISCRIMINATORY
EARLY AGAINST COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR MAKING SB EIGHT TWENTY
RIGHT FOR FURTHER ABUSE SISKIYOU
HOW IS ONE SUCH A- WHERE 92% OF
THE PEOPLE CITED FOR A LEGALLY
GROWING CANNABIS WERE ASIAN
AMERICAN GET ONLY 2% OF THE
COUNTY POPULATION IS. ASIAN
AMERICAN 75% OF THE PEOPLE FIND
FOR COUNTY CODE VIOLATIONS FOR
GROWING CANNABIS WERE ASIAN
AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR
VEHICLE SEIZE LEAVING THEM
STRANDED. GIVEN THE EXISTING
DISCRIMINATION THESE COMMUNITIES
ARE EXPERIENCING SB EIGHT TWENTY
WITH ITS PROFIT INCENTIVES AND
INSUFFICIENT PROTECTIONS WILL
ONLY EXACERBATE THIS PROBLEM.
FOR THESE REASONS WE ARE
REGRETFULLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU-
ANY ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION ROOM
PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS TED SHE AND
I DO AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE DRUG POLICY ALLIANCE. AND TO
ALSO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE S. B.
EIGHT TWENTY. A DPA WAS ALSO ONE
OF THE CHIEF CO SPONSORS OF
SENATOR MITCHELL'S FALL THAT
MISSED OCTOROK JUST MENTIONED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS BILL IS
A WELL INTENTIONED EFFORT TO
ADDRESS ILLICIT CANNABIS.
HOWEVER THE SOLUTIONS PROPOSED
RELY ON A DRUG WAR RELIC THAT IS
SUBJECT TO ABUSE AND HAS HAD
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WE OPPOSE-
SB TWENTY. EIGHT TWENTY. AND
URGE A NO VOTE FOR THE FOLLOWING
REASONS. THE BILL THE BILL IS
DUPLICATIVE OF EXISTING STATUTES
AUTHORIZING SEIZURE AND
FORFEITURE. IT IS UNNECESSARY
SINCE ADEQUATE REMEDIES ALREADY
EXIST UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW.
CANNABIS IS A CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE UNLICENSED CULTIVATION
IS AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND WE
HAVE DETAILED DRUG RELATED
FORFEITURE PROVISIONS IN
EXISTING LAW THAT CAN BE USED.
WE UNDERSTAND THEY MAYBE YOU
KNOW THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
ARE BEING ACCEPTED BUT IT'S
STILL CONCERNED WITH THE
VEHICLE- SEIZURE PROVISIONS
WHICH WE BELIEVE ARE
IMPERMISSIBLY BROAD. OF A MERE
SUSPICION OF A VEHICLE BEING
USED TO TRANSPORT TO CONCEAL A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CANNABIS COULD
BE SUFFICIENT FOR SEIZURE AND
THE BURDEN IS ON THE INDIVIDUAL
TO GO FORWARD AND INITIATE
PROCEEDINGS TO GET THE VEHICLE
BACK. WE CONFIRM THAT THE
STANDARD FOR VEHICLE SEIZURES A
MUCH LOWER THAN EXISTING LAW
WHICH REQUIRES BEYOND A
REASONABLE DOUBT A PROOF OF
BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT
THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN
ILLEGAL ACTIVITY- THE POPE THE
PEOPLE HURT MOST BY THIS- OF
THOSE WITH LIMITED INCOMES WHERE
THEY DEPEND ON THAT CAR FOR
WORK. CHILDCARE MEDICAL ISSUES
AND IN SOME CASES EVEN FOR
SHELTER- WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE-
AMENDMENTS AGAIN ADDRESS THE
PROFIT MOTIVE BUT YOU KNOW IN
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS LISTED
IN THE ANALYSIS. NOTHING IS A
DRESSING THE LOCAL PROFIT
INCENTIVE SAID LIKE TO- I URGE
THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THAT
THE PROFIT INCENTIVE FOR LOCALS-
SO JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE BY
SAYING UNFORTUNATELY- YOU KNOW
THAT THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCE OF
FORFEITURE AND NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED- AND- THE SYSTEM THAT
SB FOUR TWENTY. IT I'M SORRY
EIGHT TWENTY CREATES CIRCUMVENTS
CRUCIAL REFORMS THAT WOULD TAKE
CALIFORNIA BACKWARDS I HAVE FOR
THOSE REASONS WE RESPECTFULLY
URGE A NO VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH BEFORE WE PROCEED I THOUGHT
FOR ANYONE WHO'S HERE FOR ANY
SELF BILLS AFTER THIS BUT WE ARE
GOING TO RECESS AFTER THIS BILL
UNTIL ONE THIRTY. SO IF YOU'RE
HERE FOR SOMETHING ABOUT I JUST
WANNA LET YOU KNOW YOU'RE
WALKING THE WALK SAM WATCHING
YOU WANT- OKAY ADDITIONAL
OPPOSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD
AND SAY YOUR NAME AFFILIATION OF
ANYTHING. GOOD MORNING GLENN
BACKUS RELEVANT. OR CENTER FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS IN OPPOSITION.
BECAUSE LESLIE CALDWELL. FOR THE
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE IN OPPOSITION
. PAMELA LOPEZ WITH CALIFORNIA
NORMAL OUT WITH THIS- AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION AFTER
THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN
COMMITTEE TODAY THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK. THANK YOU ANY
ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION IN THE
ROOM. I'VE SEEN ON WILL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES. THANK YOU CARE
IF YOU ARE SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO SB EIGHT TWENTY PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO THIS TIME ONE FOLLOWED
BY ZERO. ANOTHER REMINDER YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO S. B.
EIGHT TWO ZERO. EIGHT EIGHT ONE
ZERO AT THIS TIME. MISTER CHAIR
NOBODY'S GIVING UP. OKAY
WONDERFUL BRING BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE COLLEAGUES ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I HAVE A
FEW BUT ALL. RIGHT SO OUR CENTER
THANK YOU- SO WHEN I. THE
ORIGINAL VERSION OF THIS BILL IS
NOT ONE THAT COULD HAVE
SUPPORTED VERY FOR I DO HAVE
YOUR SEIZURES IS A VERY
CHALLENGING AREA OF LAW THERE'S
BEEN SUCH. UNBELIEVABLE ABUSE
OVER THE DECADES AND THAT'S WHY
CENTER MITCHELL PURSUED HER
BELT- AND- THE ORIGINAL VERSION
IT WAS VERY BROAD AND
PARTICULARLY THE PEACE AROUND
CITIES AS A WIDE SPECTRUM HEALTH
CITIES OF PROTEASE THINGS- AND
ALLOWING THE CITIES TO KEEP 50%
SEPARATE SANDRA- THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS REALLY. FOCUS THE BILL
. I IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN BE SEE.
IN THE FOR A WARRANT AND SO ON-
AND SO FORTH UNTIL WAS VERY
POSITIVE AMENDMENTS- WE'VE AND
AS WE DISCUSSED THE BEGINNING-
INCREASE THE NUMBER PLANTS
REQUIRED FROM FIFTY WHICH IS
QUITE SMALL I TWO THOUSAND AND
WE ACTUALLY TOOK A LOOK AT THE
AVERAGE NUMBER OF PLANTS THAT
HAVE BEEN SEIZED DURING. DCC
OPERATION DEPLOYMENT OF CANNABIS
CONTROL OPERATIONS I AM A
THOUSAND WAS PROBABLY AT THE LOW
END OF THE WHAT THE TYPICAL
RANGES FOR THESE FOR THESE LARGE
SEIZURES SO I THINK THAT THAT'S
A IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE NOT GOING OUT TO THE
REALLY SMALL- ON OPERATORS- AND
THEN. REDUCING THE- THE CITY-
SHARE FROM 50% KEEPING 50% 215%
TO REALLY TRY TO REDUCE- THE
INCENTIVE. TO ENGAGE IN ABUSE
WHILE ALLOWING THEM TO COVER.
THEIR COSTS- I'M GONNA
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE
SPIDERS IN A WORK TO BE DONE ON
THIS BILL AND THIS IS VERY FIRST
STOP IN THE PROCESS I BELIEVE-
IS OUR SECOND COMMITTEE WORKING
TOGETHER AS WELL BUT WILL HAVE A
NUMBER OF COUNTIES YASSER. PLAY
OPPORTUNITY CONTINUE TO WORK IN
REPUBLICAN. AMENDMENTS BEING
TAKEN THAT I OR- PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT STEP- AS I MENTIONED
I NORMALLY DON'T DON'T LIKE
CAESAR BILLS I DO WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A REAL.
ISSUE WITH THE ILLEGAL CANNABIS
NOT THE SMALL STUFF BUT THE BIG
OPERATE NOT ONLY DOES THAT
UNDERMINE THE LEGAL MARKET I WON
ALSO KNOWLEDGE WE- WE NEED TO BE
REMOVING SOME OF THE BARRIERS
FOR THE LEGAL OPERATORS WE THAT.
THE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH THE
REGULATIONS ARE TOO HIGH AND SO
WE FUEL THE ILLICIT MARKET BY BY
PUTTING SO MANY TAXES AND
REGULATIONS. OFTEN
INSURMOUNTABLE IN THE LEGAL
OPERATORS AND WE NEED TO CHANGE
THAT- BUT FOR THESE REALLY BIG
OPERATES TO PARTICULAR BATHS
THEY'RE SO DESTRUCTIVE
ENVIRONMENTALLY- DOES THE AUTHOR
STATED AT THE. BEGINNING THAT
THAT'S WHY I WAS WILL AND TAKE A
SIR LOOK AT THIS IS MY WORK TO
BE. BUT I THINK WE TOOK A BIG
STEP TODAY- I DON'T THANK YOU
FOR WITH THE COMMITTEE I'M
COLLEAGUES ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CENTERS
SKINNER. YEAH YES. YEAH THANK
YOU- SENATOR WIENER FASTING IS
CARE AT THE MOMENT- BUT- I
APPRECIATE THE I STILL HAVE SOME
TROUBLES WITH THE- CHANGES TO
THE FORFEITURE. LAWS BECAUSE WE
HAVE HAD THERE'S BEEN GREAT
ABUSE TO THE FORFEITURE AND-
LAWS. AND WE'VE SEEN- YOU KNOW
WHEN COUNTIES OR CITIES ARE
FACING UNCERTAIN ECONOMIC
SITUATIONS WHICH WE ARE COMING
INTO NOW. THEY CAN ABUSE THIS TO
IN ORDER TO ADD GENERATE
REVENUES. AND THERE'S BEEN MUCH-
LEGISLATION IN THE LAST TEN
YEARS TO CORRECT A LOT OF THESE
THEIR FORFEITURE. I'M ISSUES AND
THE ANALYSIS EVEN POINTS OUT
THAT- YOU KNOW THAT- HEY. YEAH
NOW WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK AND
LOOK AT- REVISING OUR ENTIRE
FORFEITURE AND- THE- ASSET
FORFEITURE AND WELL ANYWAY
DESPITE THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF
THIS CODE SECTION. IN ORDER. TO-
WHAT'S THE WORD TAKE TO MASH THE
CHANGES THAT ARE BEING. IN
PASSPORT IN THIS LEGISLATION AND
THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE IN THE
PAST. AND I THINK THAT FOR GIVEN
THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE HAD
RIGHT NOW IN THIS LAST COUPLE OF
WEEKS IN TERMS OF WHEN THE BILL
WAS INTRODUCED IN ONE THE
ANALYSIS AND SUCH THERE WAS
REALLY THE ABILITY TO DO- THAT
KIND OF REALLY DETAILED. FIVE
NOT THAT THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T DO
GREAT ANALYSIS THEY DID GOOD BUT
IT'S THAT KIND OF DETAILS LIKE
HOW WOULD WE MATCH THESE THINGS.
AND SO THEY'RE YOU KNOW THEY'RE
OBVIOUSLY IS ALL THERE COULD BE
CONSIDERATION FOR DOING THE TO
YOUR BILL TO IN ORDER TO REALLY-
GRAPPLE WITH THAT. BUT SO I
STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
THE AFTER ASSET FORFEITURE
ASPECT BUT AT LEAST THE
REVISIONS TO LESSENING THE
INCENTIVE TO CITIES AND COUNTIES
FOR TRYING TO UTILIZE THIS JUST
TO GRAB MONEY. AND GETTING
CLOSER TO WHAT MIGHT BE A REAL
COMMERCIAL GROW A FIFTY FIFTY
PLANTS IS JUST THAT JUST DOES
NOT WORK. AND I WAS STRUGGLING
TO TRY TO FIND SOME
DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT IS THE
LEGITIMATE NUMBER TO MAKE THIS
BECAUSE MOST COMMERCIAL GROWS
WHETHER LEGAL OR ILLEGAL ARE.
HUGE I MEAN IN OTHER WORDS YOU
DIDN'T MEAN YOU DON'T NEED A LOT
OF PHYSICAL SPACE FOR THOUSANDS
OF CANNABIS PLANTS. AND EAT MY
FEAR EVEN WITH ADDING THE
THOUSAND BECAUSE WHILE IT'S MUCH
BETTER THAN THE FIFTY IT'S SORT
OF LIKE WERE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT
WE'RE BASING IT ON WHERE'S THAT
DATA. TO SHOW US THAT THIS
COMMERCIAL THAT THIS IS THE
APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL
GROWTH INTERVENTION FOR THIS
LEVEL OF- OF- REVISION TO OUR
ASSET FORFEITURE LAWS- SO I WILL
BE SUPPORTIVE TODAY I DON'T KNOW
HOW I WILL FEEL WHEN IT COMES TO
THE FLOOR BUT I ALSO- YOU KNOW I
HOPE. FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE
MADE BEFORE IF IT IS SIGNED INTO
LAW BEFORE IT IS SIGNED INTO LAW
. THANK YOU AND I'LL COMMIT TO
MAKE IT THE BEST VERSION THAT IT
CAN BE- JUST TO KNOWLEDGE YOUR
COMMENTS IN THE COMMENTS OF
SENATOR WIENER- I I'M COMING AT
THIS FROM A RULE LANDS WHERE- IN
IN THE ROLE PARTS OF CALIFORNIA-
THE SIERRA- SIERRA REACHES HERE
FOR HILLS EASTERN'S HERE WHERE
THERE ARE LARGE. AREAS OF LAND
STATE LAND FEDERAL LAND- WE ARE
BEING INUNDATED BY CARTELS AND
ILLICIT GROWS MASSIVE GROWS AND
OFTEN TIMES- ARE COUNTY- LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS A HANDFUL- SO FOR
EXAMPLE IN AMADOR COUNTY WE HAVE
ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT FIVE TO SIX
DEPUTIES ON. THIS WIDE- COUNTY
THAT TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR AND A
HALF FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
AND SO. PARTICULARLY THESE ARE
AREAS WHERE WE'RE BEING TARGETED
FOR THESE LARGE- CARTELS AND
THEY ARE ALSO USING THE FIFTY
CORRIDOR IN THE NINETY NINE
CORRIDOR TO MOVE THAT PRODUCT.
IN AND ABOUT OUR STATE SO- BEING
ABLE TO HAVE A- LEGISLATION THAT
HELPS TO ADD MORE UNDERSTANDING
TO WHAT SOME OF OUR SMALLER
JURISDICTIONS ARE ABLE TO DO
WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF LAND- IS
THE PURPOSE OR THE INTENT OF
THIS BILL AND SO I UNDERSTAND
WORKING MORE ON HOW DOES THIS.
RESONATE THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA
BEING THAT WE HAVE CITIES AND WE
HAVE VARIOUS SIZES OF UP LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITIES SO- I
WELCOME THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE
FURTHER. THAT YOU'RE CLOSE
THAT'S MY CLOTHES AND I WOULD.
LOVE AN IBOOK THANK YOU. OKAY I
DO A MOTION TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO A PRO. MOTION BY- CENTER CHOI
BOGUE- WELL THAT THE CORPORATION
YEAH TO APPROPRIATIONS AS
AMENDED US OKAY WILL CALL THE
ROLL SB EIGHT TWENTY TWO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS WILL
HOP. BUT CHAO ABOUT I TELL THEM
I BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE SKINNER
. HI SKINNER AYE WIENER AYE
WIENER AYE. OKAY THAT BILLS ON
CALL AND AS NOTED WE ARE NOW IN
RECESS UNTIL.
ONE THIRTY.
OKAY WE ARE GOING TO LIVE- THE
BILL'S ON CALL JUST SO WE CAN
GET ADDITIONAL VOTES SB FIVE
NINETEEN ATKINS DO PASSED TO
GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE WAHHAB I
HOP I. FORTY ZERO THAT GOES OUT
SB FOURTEEN GROVE TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS WILL
HOP HI I YEAH. THAT BILL STILL
CALL AS BEFORE FOUR AMBER DEEP
TO A WERE HIGH. NOT A FAILED
CALL I'M SORRY. OKAY THE BILLS
ON OFF. AND THEN. SEVEN I KNOW
WE HAVE NOT NINE AND THIRTEEN.
SB EIGHT OVER OUT OF GUILT
MOTIONS TO AS A TO A WILL HOP ON
HOP I. THE BILL HAS AND THAT
BILL IS OUT GRANDSON. PORTANTINO
SB FIVE NINE SO MOTION TO PASS
APPROACH WILL HOP ON HOP I. THAT
BILL IS OUT. FOR ONE. THANK AND
THEN WE HAVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR I SIX IN TO EIGHT
NINETEEN TWENTY TWENTY OF TWENTY
WAIT NOT NOT A AND NOT BEEN
SORRY WE PULLED OFF SB THREE
FOUR ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN. OKAY
CONSENT CALENDAR WAHHAB HI THE
HOBBIT I. STILL STILL OPEN TO
BREXIT. THAT CONSENT IS TO OPEN
. ALRIGHT SINCE WE- THE SENATE
OPERATOR KILLED YOU LIKE TO
PLACE- HIS. HER OTHER TWO. FIVE
LET'S START WITH. TWO TWO SIX
FOUR ZERO SIX. DID YOU SIX OKAY
NOW. JUST. AS WITH MOST.
MADAM CHAIR IF I MAY M. I'D LIKE
TO ACKNOWLEDGE I'VE GOT A BUDDY
IN THE ROOM TODAY AND BEING
SHADOWED BY ONE OF OUR
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS MARTY AND
SHE IS LEARNING HOW ARE
LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE RUNS AND
WILL BE EVALUATING ME TODAY
RIGHT ALREADY. OKAY ALL RIGHT SO
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE STAFF I
AM PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU
SENATE BILL TWO TWO SIX WHICH
WOULD ADD ILLEGAL FENTANYL TO
THE EXISTING LIST OF CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES THAT ARE ILLEGAL TO
POSSESS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY
POSSESSING A LOADED OPERABLE
FIREARM. CURRENT LAW OUTLAWS
OUTLAWS THE POSSESSION OF
CERTAIN DRUGS SUCH AS HEROIN
COCAINE AND METHAMPHETAMINE AS A
MISDEMEANOR IT ALSO MAKES THE
SIMPLE POSSESSION OF THESE DRUGS
WHILE ALSO POSSESSING A FIREARM
A FELONY. ILLEGAL DRUGS PLUS A
LOADED OPERABLE FIREARM MORE
DEATHS. A GRAVE THREAT TO PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY EXISTED DAY IN
THE FORM OF THE DRUG FENTANYL
I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE HUNDREDS
OF PEOPLE COLIN AND I'M NOT
GOING TO HI FOR EDUCATE YOU ON
THE IMPACTS OFFENSE NOW. BUT WE
DO KNOW THAT IT IS BECAUSE THE
NUMBER OF ILLICIT DRUG RELATED
OVERDOSES OR POISONS. LEADING TO
DEATH THAT HAS SKYROCKETED
AMONGST EVERY SECTOR OF OUR
COMMUNITY. ANTONOFF IS NOT
LISTED BY NAME AS BEING AMONG
THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
ELIGIBLE FOR FELONY PROSECUTION
UNDER EXISTING LAW. EVEN THOUGH
IT IS FIFTY TIMES STRONGER THAN
HEROIN WHICH IS ON THE LIST.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT MANY DRUGS
CURRENTLY ON THE LIST ARE OFTEN
QUOTE UNQUOTE LACED WITH
FENTANYL THIS DATE DEADLY DRUG
HAS NOT BEEN EXPRESSED
EXPLICITLY INCLUDED IN THE LIST
OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES. THAT
ARE ILLEGAL TO CARRY WITH A
FIREARM IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
CLARITY TO THE COURTS. THIS IS A
BOTH THE PROSECUTION AND IN THE
DEFENSE. I'M TREATING FENTON
OPPOSITION WITH A GUN
DIFFERENTLY THAN HEROIN. DOES
NOT SERVE JUSTICE NOR DOES IT
MAKE PRACTICAL SENSE GIVEN THAT
THE POTENCY IN DANGER FENTANYL
COMPARED TO OTHER DRUGS ON THE
LIST. THIS BILL SENATE BILL TWO
TWO SIX MODERNIZES AN EXISTING
LAW AND OFFERED A
STRAIGHTFORWARD SOLUTION TO A
DEADLY PROBLEM. HERE TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT IS CINDY DA SILVA
WITH THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND AMADOR
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY TODD
REID. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU
BOTH FOR JOINING US ALL DAY
TODAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU WILL
THE FIRST WITNESS PLEASE COME
FORWARD ONTO THIS MIKE UP HERE
IF YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES WE WILL
BE TIMING YOU THANK YOU. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS TODD REVEAL
MEMBER KIND JUST RETURNING. THE
LANDSCAPE OF LEGAL DRUG SALES
AND USES TRAINED CHANGED
DRASTICALLY WITHIN THE PAST
THREE YEARS WITH THE ARRIVAL
FENDALTON CALIFORNIA. ONE PILL
CAN KILL IS NOT JUST A CLEVER
MARKETING EFFORT TO GET THE WORD
OUT TO OUR YOUTH ABOUT THIS
DEADLY DRUG IT IS A REALITY. FAN
KNOWS THE NUMBER ONE KILLER OF
ALL EIGHTEEN TO FORTY FIVE YEAR
OLDS IN THE UNITED STATES. THE
D. THIS SUPPRESSES CAR ACCIDENTS
GUN VIOLENCE AND SUICIDES. IN
TWO THOUSAND TWENTY TWO THE DA
LAB TESTED A LIST OF PILLS
SEIZED ON THE STREETS PURPORTING
TO BE. OXYCONTIN XANAX ADDERALL
PERCOCET ANOTHER PARDON
PHARMACEUTICALS THEY DISCOVERED
THAT OVER SIXTY PERCENT. OF
THESE FAKE PILLS CONTAINED A
LETHAL DOSE OF FENTANYL. NO
CORNER OF CALIFORNIA'S IMMUNE.
AMADOR COUNTY POPULATION FORTY
ONE THOUSAND. WE HAVE HAD CASES
INVOLVING AS MUCH AS A HALF A
POUND OF FAT NO. NOT TO KILL
EVERY CITIZEN OUR COMMUNITY
SEVERAL TIMES OVER. S. B. TWO
TWENTY SIX INTRODUCED BY SENATOR
MURRAY OVER OUT OF GILLS A
COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO DEALING
WITH THOSE WHO HELP OF THE
STAFF. BY ADDING FEDERAL TO THE
LIST OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
FOR WHICH A SIMULTANEOUS
POSSESSION OF A LOADED AN
OPERABLE FIREARM IS ELIGIBLE FOR
A FELONY CONVICTION. FENNO
ALREADY KILLS MORE THAN THE REST
OF THE DRUGS ON THIS LIST
COMBINED. THERE IS NO RATIONAL
JUSTIFICATION FOR FEDERAL NOT TO
BE ADDED TO THE LIST. FENNEL AND
GUNS DO NOT BELONG TOGETHER.
HISTORY WILL JUDGE US AS LEADERS
BOTH AT THE STATE LEVEL AND IN
THE COMMUNITY LEVEL. FOR HOW WE
RESPOND TO THE SPEND- CRISIS S.
B. TWO TWENTY SIX AS PART OF THE
SOLUTION. I URGE YOU TO PLEASE
PASS THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU NEXT WEEK OR YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS I'M
CINDY DA SILVA I'M A NARCOTICS
PROSECUTOR JUST SOUTH OF US IN
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY. AND I'M HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION-
IT'S MY HONOR AND PLEASURE TO
ADVOCATE IN FRONT OF YOU AND
BEHALF OF S. B. TWO TWO SIX. I
WANT TO THANK SENATOR ALVARADO
GILL WHO REPRESENTS ELEVEN
COUNTIES AND PEOPLE OF ALL
PERSUASIONS AS WELL AS BOTH
BICAMERAL AND BIPARTISAN SUPPORT
FOR THIS BILL WHICH AS MR REIDY
SAID IS COMMONSENSE MEASURE. TO
COMBAT GUN VIOLENCE AS WELL AS
THE PROBLEM OF ADDICTION WHEN WE
GET GUNS AND SENTINEL TOGETHER
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A POWERFULLY
BAD COMBINATION. AND RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE CURRENT
LEGISLATION ELEVEN THREE SEVENTY
POINT ONE OF THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY CODE WAS PASSED BEFORE
FENTANYL BECAME A PROBLEM. SO
WHAT DOES NOT SPECIFY FENTANYL
AS ONE OF THESE SUBSTANCES FOR
WHICH SIMULTANEOUS POSSESSION OF
A LOADED OPERABLE FIREARM IS
ALSO ILLEGAL PURSUANT TO THAT
BILL. THIS BILL DOES NOT
INTRODUCED A NEW LAW OR A NEW
SET OF PENALTIES INSTEAD IT JUST
AUGMENTS THE CURRENT LAW AND
CLOSES A LOOPHOLE THAT CREATES
AN INCENTIVE ALREADY BEYOND THE
OTHER. POWERFUL INCENTIVES FOR
TRAFFICKERS TO- BRING FENTANYL
INTO OUR STATE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
IF THEY HAVE LOADS OF FENTANYL
AND ALSO POSSESSING A GUN THAT'S
LOADED AN OPERABLE TO PROTECT
THEIR STASH. THEY ARE SUBJECT TO
LESS PUNISHMENT FOR FENTANYL
THAN THEY ARE FOR
METHAMPHETAMINE AND ARGUE WILL
BELIEVE LESS DANGEROUS DRUGS
SAME WITH HEROIN AND COCAINE I
DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A
MOVEMENT AFOOT. TO CURVE THE SO
CALLED WAR ON DRUGS BUT WHAT
THIS MEASURE DOES INSTEAD IS IT
RECOGNIZES THAT WE HAVE A MULTI
PRONGED APPROACH ON HEALTH.
COMBATING THE PROBLEM OF DRUGS
AND GUN VIOLENCE IS NOT WORKING
JUST ON A HEALTH. A HEALTH CODE
PERSPECTIVE WE'VE SEEN THAT PROP
THIRTY SIX HAS NOT WORKED IN THE
TWENTY PLUS YEARS- SINCE IT'S
BEEN ON THE BOOKS. IT HASN'T
WORKED IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES BUT
ON THE WHOLE IT CERTAINLY HAS
NOT STOPPED THE INFLUX OF BUT
MET THEM I'M SORRY MENTAL. AS A
NARCOTICS PROSECUTOR IN THE LAST
YEAR ALONE FOR SOME REASON I'M
SEEING AN ENORMOUS- INFLUX IN
FUNCTIONAL FOR EXAMPLE EARLIER
THIS MORNING OUR OUR VICE
CHAIRMAN SHIN SIXTEEN THOUSAND
THOUSAND FENTANYL PILLS. IN HER
COUNTY THESE DAYS THAT'S A SMALL
AMOUNT I'M SEEING 800-008-5000 A
HUNDRED THOUSAND HUNDRED THIRTY
THOUSAND PILLS PLUS SIXTY POUNDS
OF METH. BEING BROUGHT IN ONE
CAR LOAD. TEXTING YOUR STASHED
THE LOADED OPERABLE FIREARM
UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD
NOT BE TOLERATED IN A STATE
WHERE GOVERNOR NEWSOM HAS SAID
RECENTLY THAT GUNS ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF
CRIMES. SO WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR AYE VOTE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU I DO WE
HAVE ANY SUPPORT WHEN ASSISTS.
ME TO SING NONE WILL MOVE ON TO
OPPOSITION WITNESSES LEAD
OPPOSITION YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
. GOOD AFTERNOON GOING BACK IS
FOR ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS. THIS BILL WOULD BUILD ON
EXISTING LAW THAT IS TRUE BUT IN
THIS CASE THE EXISTING LAW IS
FLAWED AND SHOULD NOT BE BUILT
UPON. THE BILL WOULD AMEND
HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE ELEVEN
THREE SEVENTY POINT ONE WHICH
PROVIDES THAT A PERSON POSSESSES
ANY AMOUNT ANY AMOUNT AT ALL OF
COCAINE HEROIN METHAMPHETAMINE.
OR OTHER SPECIFIED CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE. AND ALSO IS QUOTE IN
POSSESSION. OF A LOADED AWFUL
FIREARM IS GUILTY OF AN
ADDITIONAL FELONY. BEYOND SIMPLE
DRUG POSSESSION AND ANY OTHER
DRUG DRUG OR GUN CHARGES. AND IS
PUNISHABLE BY IMPRISONMENT OF
TWO THREE OR FOUR YEARS THIS
BILL WITHOUT BATTLE TO THE LIST.
OF DRUGS THAT CAN SEND A PERSON
TO PRISON FOR MANY YEARS UNDER
CURRENT LAW. PEOPLE HAVE EVEN A
SMALL AMOUNT OF A CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE. AND A LAWFULLY
PURCHASED FIREARMS IN THEIR HOME
SAFELY STORED. SO WHAT THE
CALIFORNIA LAW IF THEY HAVE A
SMALL AMOUNT OF HEROIN. AND THEY
HAVE A GUN IN THE HOUSE THAT'S
ENOUGH TO GET THIS CONVICTION OF
UP TO FOUR YEARS. DOESN'T
REQUIRE THE FIREARM BE USED
BRANDISHED OR EVEN ON THE PERSON
THE MERE PRESENCE OF THE FIREARM
WHEN THE LEÓN IS SAFELY STORED
IS GROUNDS FOR CONVICTION IN A
VERY LONG TERM OF IMPRISONMENT.
ELEVEN THREE SEVEN POINT ONE WAS
LAST AMENDED IN NINETEEN NINETY
SIX AND WENT INTO EFFECT IN
JANUARY OF NINETEEN NINETY
SEVEN. IN THE LAST TWENTY FIVE
YEARS. WHAT EVIDENCE HAS EMERGED
OF PUNISHING PEOPLE FOR
POSSESSING A MINUTE AMOUNT OF
HEROIN. WHILE ALSO HAVING A
FIREARM IN THE HOME OR ON THE
VEHICLE- IN THEIR VEHICLE WHAT
PROOF IS THERE THAT'S REDUCED
GUN VIOLENCE OR DRUG CRIME. OR
ANY OTHER POSITIVE EFFECTS ON
PUBLIC SAFETY. I WOULD ALSO
POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE NO
HEALTH BENEFITS INCARCERATIONS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED ARE
MUCH MUCH MORE LIKELY TO DIE OF
A DRUG OVERDOSE UPON RELEASE. I
HAVE ABOUT FORTY TIMES HIGHER
LIKELIHOOD OF DYING. AND PEOPLE
THE GENERAL PUBLIC. BUT WE ARE
AWARE THAT THERE'S NO RESEARCH
TO SHOW THAT LONG SENTENCES
REDUCED AVAILABILITY OF DRUGS OR
REDUCE DRUG. HARMS OR VIOLENT
CRIMES. ON THE CONTRARY RESEARCH
FINDS THAT LONG SENTENCES HAVE
NEGLIGIBLE PUBLIC SAFETY EVENT.
AND DEFINITE NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON
INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES. WHO ARE DRUGS
FAILED US FAILED OUR FAMILIES
AFIELD OUR COMMUNITIES DON'T
BUILD ON FAILED POLICY PLEASE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- LEAD
OPPOSITION. I'M YES. LASTLY
CALDWELL HOUSTON ON BEHALF OF
THE- PUBLIC DEFENDERS CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION. IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. RELYING
ON EVER INCREASING PENALTIES FOR
DRUG OFFENSES HAS BEEN
EXTENSIVELY RESEARCHED. AND WE
CAN THEREFORE MAKE SOME EDUCATED
PREDICTIONS REGARDING THE
OUTCOME OF THE BILL SUCH AS THIS
IT WOULD NOT REDUCE THE
DISTRIBUTION OF FENTANYL IT
WOULD NOT PREVENT OVERDOSES OR
POISONING. IT WOULD NEED TO
REDUCE THE SUPPLY OF FENTANYL
NOR THE DEMAND FOR THE DRUGS.
SINCE THE DRUG MARKET IS DRIVEN
BY DEMAND RATHER THAN SUPPLY
RESEARCH INDICATES THAT AN
INCARCERATED SELLER WILL SIMPLY
BE REPLACED BY ANOTHER
INDIVIDUAL TO FULFILL THE
DEMAND. WE CAN APPLY THIS LESSON
HERE AND WHEN THE NEXT DRUG
COMES THROUGH SUCH AS TRYING-
AND DECIMATES EVEN MORE OF OUR
COMMUNITY WE HAVE TO BE READY
WITH A PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH.
THAT IS WHAT THE COMMONSENSE
APPROACH ACTUALLY IS.
IMPORTANTLY THE CODE SECTION
THAT THE SB TWO TWO SIX SIX TO
BROADEN DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT A
FORUM BEAT HOUSTON ANYWAY CANCEL
OUT MENTIONED PROTECTING A STASH
THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT.
PROTECTING HIS STASH IN THIS
BILL THE MERE PRESENCE OF A
FIREARM AS MY COLLEAGUE STATED
IS ENOUGH FOR CONVICTION EVEN IF
THE FIREARM IS LEGALLY OWNED AND
PROPERLY AND SAFELY STORED. IT
MUST BE NOTED THAT WE HEAR SAD
STORIES DESPERATELY SAD STORIES
ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE BEING
POISONED BY DRUGS COULDN'T FIT
CUT BY. CUT WITH FENTANYL BUT
THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WAS THERE.
IT IS LIKELY THAT THE SELLER
DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE
WHEN PILLS IN PARTICULAR ARE CUT
WITH FENTANYL IS DONE AT A HIGH
LEVEL AND THE SELLER IT LIKELY
WOULD NOT KNOW OF THE PRESENCE
OF ITS- PRESENCE. IN THE DRUG
HILLS HERE SHE IS SELLING. A
PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH IS
CRITICAL HERE. LASTLY WE MUST
REMAIN AWARE THAT HARSH
PENALTIES FOR SUBSTANCES
CONTAINING ANY MEASURE OF
FENTANYL COULD EASILY INTERFERE
WITH CALIFORNIA'S GOOD SAMARITAN
LAW BY POSSIBLY MAKING AN
INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT TO CALL
EMERGENCY SERVICES OR RUN AWAY
FROM THE SCENE WITHOUT HELPING
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR NO
VOTE.
GOOD AFTERNOON CYNTHIA VALENCIA
WITH THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA
ACTION IN OPPOSITION TO SB. TWO
TWO SIX.
CONFERENCE MODERATOR. I THINK I
HEARD MODERATOR I THINK A
MICROPHONE IS OFF IN YOUR ROOM
THERE. NO I WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO
PROMPT THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL.
ABSOLUTELY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
ON PHONE LINES- PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY EUROPE. AT THIS TIME
YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION I
BELIEVE WE'RE ON A THREE TO TWO
THE CORRECT YES. THANK YOU. ONE
MOMENT. WE WILL GO TO LINE FOUR
HUNDRED AND TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD
.
BROUGHT TO YOU ARE OPEN. ONE
FOUR OH FIVE PLEASE CALL EIGHT
FOUR FIVE. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN GREGORY FELT MITIGATE
THE IN RESPECT OPPOSITE THANK
YOU. AS SACRAMENTO PLEASE PRESS
NOW BY ZERO IF YOU'D LIKE
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT THIS TO SB.
TWO TWO SIX. AND MEDICARE NOBODY
ELSE'S Q. UP THANK YOU- MOVE
CONVERSATION TO MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBERS DO
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THOUGHTS
CONCERNS. SEEING NONE I'D LIKE
THE SENATOR TO CLOSE. SIX I DID
CLARIFY WHAT THIS BILL IS IN IS
AND IT'S- THIS IS THIS IS AN
EXISTING. STRUCTURE THAT ALREADY
INCLUDES A WHOLE RANGE OF
OPIOIDS AND- INCLUDING HER WHEN
AND THIS IS SIMPLY PUTTING.
FENTON ALL AND TO IT THAT
EXISTING STRUCTURES SO IF YOU
HAVE A GRIND AND YOU HAVE A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SENTINEL. THE
QUALIFIES AS A IS THAT RIGHT
MADAM CHAIR. BERMAN AUTHOR YES
THAT'S CORRECT- I'M ADDING TWO
WORDS. ILLICIT FENTANYL TO IT
EXISTING LAW. TO MODERNIZE IT
FROM NINETEEN NINETY SIX AS WE
HEARD FROM THE OPPOSITION- I HAD
MY FIRST CHILD IN NINETEEN
NINETY SIX I WAS A YOUNG PERSON
MYSELF AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO
BE TWENTY EIGHT SOON MY MATH IS
RIGHT THINK IT'S PROBABLY.
BEFORE MY BUDDY MARTY HERE WAS
EVEN BORN- SO WE AS AS AS
SENATORS- PART OF THE REASON WHY
WE TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY
TO REPRESENT OUR DISTRICTS IS TO
MODERNIZE. AND REFLECT THE
CURRENT STATE OF- OF LOSS IN OUR
IN OUR COMMUNITY SO- I TOOK THE
EFFORT HERE. THE SUPERMAJORITY
DEMOCRATS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF
HEAT FOR GUN CONTROL AND FOR-
YOU KNOW BE AT DISCOURSE AROUND
FENTON ALL. THIS FOR ME IS A LAW
THAT IS SO SIMPLE IT'S TWO WORDS
AND IT'S NOT ADDING MORE
CONVICTIONS IT'S NOT ADDING MORE
PENALTIES I MEAN IT'S CERTAINLY
NOT ME COMING AFTER VIOLENT
FELONIES RIGHT. THIS IS SIMPLY
STATING. NINETEEN NINETY SIX WE
DIDN'T HAVE ILLICIT FENTANYL
DEATHS MAYBE WE DID WE JUST
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE. BUT
WE CERTAINLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
NOW SO TURNING OUR HEADS LOOKING
THE OTHER WAY IS THAT DURING A
PROBLEM THAT'S IN FRONT OF US-
AND AGAIN THIS IS AS VANILLA AS
YOU GET. WITH MY BILLS THANK YOU
SENATOR OUT SENATOR WOULD YOU
LIKE CLOSE- YES THAT WAS PART OF
MY CLOSURE I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
SAY THAT AS A LAWFUL TRAINED AND
SKILLED GUN OWNER. HAVING A
LOADED OPERABLE FIREARM EVEN IF
IT'S SAFELY STORED IS NOT LEGAL
IT IS NOT SAFE. WE AS A LAWFUL
GUN OWNERS UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE
ARE GOING TO POSSESS ANY
FIREARMS IN OUR HOME WE ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO
THAT BULLET. AND I WOULD NEVER
AS A LAWFUL GUN OWNERS STORE A
LOADED FIREARM IN MY HOME. THANK
YOU THANK YOU- I WOULD KINDLY
REQUEST AND I. THINK YOU DO WE
HAVE A MOTION. SENATOR CHOI
BOGUE HAS MOVED THE BILL. SB TWO
TWO SIX THE MOTION IS DO YOU
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR
BOB I HAVE I HAVE A- JOB THAT I
BRADFORD. SKINNER WIENER AYE
WIENER AYE. THANK YOU THE BILLS
ON- MUCH DEFINITELY AND SENATOR
WE YOU LIKE TO YOUR NEXT BILL
SEVEN NINE SIX YES THANK YOU SO
MUCH AND THIS IS MY THIRD BILL
IN THE DOCKET TODAY- SENATE BILL
SEVEN NINE SIX AND THIS CONCERNS
THREATS TO SCHOOLS AND PLACES OF
WORSHIP. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY
ACKNOWLEDGING AND THANKING AND
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE FOR
THEIR AMENDMENTS AND FOR THIS
WORK ON THIS BILL. AS AMENDED SB
SEVEN NINE SIX WILL MAKE IT
UNLAWFUL FOR SOMEONE TO THREATEN
TO COMMIT A CRIME THAT WILL
RESULT IN DEATH. OR GREAT BODILY
INJURY EVEN IF THE SPECIFIC
PERSON IS NOT NAMED.
ADDITIONALLY THIS BILL WOULD
ONLY APPLY TO SCHOOLS AND PLACES
OF WORSHIP. MIRRORING A BILL
THAT THIS COMMITTEE PREVIOUSLY
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY IN TWENTY
NINETEEN ASSEMBLY BILL NINE OH
SEVEN WITH GRAYSON. EXISTING LAW
PROHIBITS MAKING CRIMINAL
THREATS AGAINST A SPECIFIC
PERSON. EVEN IF THERE'S NO
INTENT TO ACTUALLY CARRY OUT THE
CRIMES. HOWEVER IT'S NOT ILLEGAL
TO THREATEN TO COMMIT A CRIME
LIKE THE MASS SHOOTING. AGAINST
A PARTICULAR LOCATION. SCHOOLS
AND PLACES OF WORSHIP. ARE WELL
ALL ARE WHERE ALL PEOPLE SHOULD
FEEL THE SAFEST AND NOT FEAR FOR
THEIR LIVES. THIS IS WHERE
FAMILIES COME TOGETHER
COMMUNITIES COME TOGETHER WHERE
WE TRUST OUR CHILDREN. TO LOVE
IN LEARN AND PLAY. THIS SHOULD
NOT BE A PLACE WHERE EDUCATORS
ARE KIDS. OR EVEN OUR FAMILIES
ARE IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES OR
WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES AT THE
END OF THE DAY. SENATE BILL
SEVEN NINE SIX FILLS THE GAP IN
THE LAW AND PROVIDES CLARITY FOR
INVESTIGATORS AND PROSECUTORS
WHO WHO CAN NOW HOLD INDIVIDUALS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE TERROR AND
DESTRUCTION THEIR WORDS COSTS.
HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OUR
SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY JEFF ROSEN. AND
JONATHON FELDMAN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR
JOINING ME TODAY THANK YOU DA
ROSEANNE WELCOME- YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU SENATOR. COVENANT
SCHOOL IN TENNESSEE ROB
ELEMENTARY IN TEXAS GENEVA
PRESBYTERIAN IN CALIFORNIA. HOW
MANY MORE MASS SHOOTINGS AT
SCHOOLS AND PLACES OF WORSHIP
MUST THERE BE. IT'S NOT JUST THE
SHOOTINGS THEMSELVES THAT WE
MUST AND IT'S ALSO THE THREATS
OF SHOOTINGS WHICH CAUSE
SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION AND
TRAUMA TO COMMUNITIES. EARLIER
TODAY IN SANTA CLARA COUNTY PALO
ALTO HIGH SCHOOL THE THREAT OF A
MASS SHOOTING ALL THE STUDENTS
EVACUATED THE PARENTS EXTREMELY
CONCERNED. NOTABLY THESE THREATS
TO COMMIT A MASS SHOOTING CAN BE
A PRECURSOR TO A PERSON ACTUALLY
CARRYING OUT THIS HORRIBLE ACT.
IT'S COMMON THAT MASS SHOOTERS
SIGNAL THEIR IMPENDING VIOLENCE
THROUGH BEHAVIOR KNOWN AS
LEAKAGE- IN EXPRESSING AN INTENT
TALKING ABOUT DOING THIS THESE
THINGS. ARE COMMUNITIES HOWEVER
ARE VULNERABLE TO THESE THREATS
THROUGH A LEGAL LOOPHOLE IN
EXISTING LAW. CURRENT LAW DOES
NOT PROHIBIT THREATS THAT DO NOT
NAME A SPECIFIC PERSON IN FACT
THREATS TO SHOOT UP A PLACE OF
WORSHIP OR SCHOOL. ARE NOT
PROHIBITED DESPITE THE CLEAR
DANGER THEY PRESENT. IN THE
FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT PROTECT
THESE THREATS. SB SEVEN NINETY
SIX. IS THE NAY OF NARROWLY
TAILORED SOLUTION IT PROHIBITS
THREATS TO SCHOOLS OR PLACES OF
WORSHIP WHEN A SPECIFIC
INDIVIDUAL IS NOT NAMED AND IT
ALLOWS POLICE TO INVESTIGATE
SUCH THREATS. BEFORE THEY COME
TO FRUITION. GIVEN THE REALITY
IN CALIFORNIA OF MASS SHOOTINGS
AND TARGETED VIOLENCE THE LAW
MUST BE UPDATED TO PROTECT OUR
COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH LEGAL TOOLS TO
STOP THESE THREATS. OF MASS
VIOLENCE AND GUN VIOLENCE FROM
BEING CARRIED OUT. FOR THESE
REASONS I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE ON THIS BILL. THANK
YOU DA- NEXT WITNESS YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYBODY- JONATHON FELDMAN WITH
THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION PROUD CO SPONSOR OF
THE BILL AS THE OTHER MENTION
THIS IS NEARLY IDENTICAL TO A
BILL THAT PASSED THIS COMMITTEE
SEVEN AND I'LL- IN TWENTY
NINETEEN- SLIGHTLY. DIFFERENT IN
THAT WE TOOK AN AMENDMENT AGREED
TO ONE FOR THE CHAIRS REQUEST
THAT IS ACTUALLY NEAR THE BILL
SLIGHTLY SO. THIS IS A MORE
NARROW VERSION OF WHAT IT PASSED
EARLIER- THE BILL IT ALSO PASSED
THE ASSEMBLY SEVENTY FORTY
NOTHING. UNFORTUNATELY SINCE THE
BILL FAILED IN TWENTY NINETEEN
WE'VE ONLY SEEN AN INCREASE IN
THREATS MADE AGAINST SCHOOLS. L.
A. TIMES PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE ON
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THAT SHOWED AN
EXPONENTIAL GROWTH- COMING OUT
OF THE PANDEMIC- AND IT'S CLEAR
THAT WE HAVE TO DO ALL THAT WE
CAN TO PREVENT THESE INCIDENTS.
I CATCH THEM EARLY WHICH IS THE
FOCUS OF THIS BILL- TARGETING
THOSE THAT ARE MAKING THE
THREATS. AGAINST OUR SCHOOLS AND
OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP AND GIVING
LAW ENFORCEMENT THE TOOLS THEY
NEED- YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THE
OPPOSITION'S ARGUMENTS- THEY
REALLY FOCUS ON TWO POINTS ONE
THAT THIS IS ALREADY COVERED BY
EXISTING LAW. AND TO THAT THESE
ARE REALLY CRIMES- WE
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH BOTH
POINTS I HAVE EXAMPLES FROM
POLICE CHIEFS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. WHERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE
MADE THREATS DIRECTLY AGAINST
SCHOOLS THREATS THAT AMOUNT TO
VIOLENCE- BUT DIDN'T FIT. INTO
PENAL CODE FOR TWENTY TO OUR
CRIMINAL THREATS THAT YOU
BECAUSE IT WASN'T TARGETING AN
INDIVIDUAL. AND BECAUSE OF THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT COULDN'T GET A
WARRANT OR OTHERWISE PROPERLY
INVESTIGATE THE CALL TIMELY.
THEY WERE DELAYED- AND THOSE
DELAYS IN THESE INSTANCES ARE
UNACCEPTABLE- SO AS SUCH YOU
KNOW WE'RE WORD. STRONGLY BEHIND
THE BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY- WE
THINK WE'VE GOT TO DO ALL THAT
WE CAN. TO STOP THESE. INCIDENTS
OF VIOLENCE- BEFORE THEY HAPPEN
AND FOR THAT REASON WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK AN AYE VOTE
THANK YOU I DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES- IF SO PLEASE
COME FORWARD YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR- SUPPORT.
ADAM TURNED SENATORS AND YOUR
NAME ALL REPRESENTING DIFFERENT
CENTER TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
CINDY TO SERVE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. SINGH NO OTHER WITNESSES
COME FORWARD WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON
TO LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
COME BACK. LESLIE CALDWELL
HOUSTON ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. WE ARE
VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE INTENT
OF THIS BILL BUT CREATING A NEW
CRIME IS NOT THE ANSWER. THE
WORDS IN LOCATIONS DESCRIBED IN
THIS BILL ARE ALREADY COVERED BY
CURRENT LAW. I HAVE TO ADD-
COUNTRY TO WHAT THE CHIEF OF
POLICE REPRESENTATIVE STATED- I
HAD CLIENTS THAT WERE CHARGED
WITH TERRORIST THREATS. FOR
TWENTY TWO AGAINST SCHOOLS WAY
BACK IN. RIGHT WHEN FOR TWENTY
TWO PASSED I WOULD SAY MY
CLIENTS WERE ALL DESPERATELY
MENTALLY ILL. WELL WE THINK THE
AUTHOR FOR THE AMENDMENT
ACCEPTED WE MUST REMAIN OPPOSED
THIS BILL AS A NECESSARY TO
ACHIEVE ITS STATED GOALS. MAKING
A CRIMINAL THREAT IN ANY SETTING
IS CONDUCT THAT'S ALREADY
COVERED BY PENAL CODE SECTION
FOUR TWENTY TWO NEARLY ALL OF
THE CONDUCT. DESCRIBED IN THIS
BILL FALLS WELL WITHIN THE
DEFINITION OF THAT SECTION TO
THE EXTENT THAT THIS BILL
LOOSENS THE RESTRICTIONS OF FOUR
TWENTY TWO IT'S EVEN MORE
CONCERNING. PENAL CODE SECTION
FOUR TWENTY TWO IS A STATUE THAT
IS OFTEN MISUSE TO PENALIZE
CONDUCT THE DOES NOT TRULY
BELONG IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE
FOR OUR CLIENTS WITH MENTAL
HEALTH CONDITIONS WHO OFTEN
SUFFER FROM DELUSIONS AND
PARANOIA. THE FEAR THAT THESE
CLIENTS EXPERIENCE COULD LEAD
THEM TO SAY THINGS THAT ARE
MISINTERPRETED OR A BY PRODUCT
OF THEIR ILLNESS. P. C. SECTION
FOR TWENTY TWO REQUIRES ONLY
WORDS NO ACTION IN FURTHERANCE
OF THE THREAT AND THE PLACE TO A
PERSON WHO WAS SAYING THE WORDS
WITHOUT INTENTION TO CARRYING
THEM OUT. CREATING A NEW OFFENCE
THAT FURTHER LOOSENS THIS
EXPANSIVE DEFINITION WILL ONLY
ENSNARE EVEN MORE PEOPLE WITH
MENTAL ILLNESS. FOR THESE
REASONS WE REQUEST YOUR NO VOTE.
THANK YOU- DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM. SEEING NONE WILL MOVE ON
TO WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY
VIA TELECONFERENCE MODERATOR
WOULD YOU PLEASE FROM THE FIRST
INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU MEDICARE
LEAVES GERMAN IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION SB SEVEN
NINETY SIX POINT ONE GROWTH THIS
TIME. ONE VOEPEL ZERO AND WE'LL
GO TO LINE FOR- TO EUROPE AND-
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND SENATOR.
PULVERIZED OF GUILD THIS IS TONY
TOO ZERO ONE TO HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA TEACHERS ASSOCIATION
WE WANT TO APOLOGIZE ALL FOR NOT
GETTING IN ON THE ANALYSIS. WE
ARE IN SUPPORT. OF THE BILL
BEFORE HE SEVEN NINE K. THANK
YOU THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE'LL GO
TO LINE THREE NINETY SEVEN YOU
ARE OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON I THINK
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY NETWORK
HÌNH ON BEHALF OF SAN FRANCISCO
DISTRICT ATTORNEY BROOKE JENKINS
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN
NINETY SIX. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
SEEING NO OTHER SPEAKERS I'LL
BRING THE CONVERSATION BACK TO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMITTEE
MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS
. SENATOR TO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
MEASURE FORWARD- SENATOR OVER
OUT OF JAIL AND- SO CUT A COUPLE
OF COMMENTS- AND THEN I'LL LEAVE
IT AS TO IF THE OPPOSITION LEAD
WITNESS WANTS TO ANSWER OR
SENATOR. OUT OF OUR WOULD LIKE
TO RESPOND. AND I THINK THE
MAJOR CONCERN THAT I HEARD
TODAY- FROM THE OPPOSITION IS
THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THERE ARE
MANY PEOPLE WHO. ARE IN A- THE
HELP BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS-
OR PERHAPS THERE- UNDER THE
INFLUENCE IT WILL MAKE COMMENTS.
THAT ARE ARE AND- THAT ARE
THREATENING TO ALL OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS- AND TO THAT I WOULD
SAY- I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN-
WITH REGARDS TO. TO INDIVIDUALS
WHO MIGHT FIND THEMSELVES IN
THAT. THE STATE OF MIND I THINK
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT
ALL OF OUR COUNTIES HAVE BOTH.
THE MEANS- OR THE IT THE ABILITY
TO OR- AT THAT CAPACITY TO HAVE
A MENTAL HEALTH COURT. THAT
COULD ASSESS- THE PERSON SAY IN
THIS CASE WHO MAY BE A MAKING
SUCH A THREAT- HELP. LAW
ENFORCEMENT COULD GET TO THAT
INDIVIDUAL- BRING THEM IN GET
THE ASSESSMENT- ON ON ON THE
FACT THAT THEY'RE PERHAPS UNDER
THE INFLUENCE OR THROUGH A
MENTAL BREAKDOWN WHETHER IT'S
OPIOID BASED OR WHETHER IT'S
JUST BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. AND GET
THEM THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE
TO- TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION
IN WHICH THEY FIND THEMSELVES
IN- I THINK BY. NOT BOASTING MY
BILL BUT I DO HAVE A BILL- AND
I'VE HAD FOR THE PAST YEARS IN
EXPANDING OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND
HOMELESS COURTS SPECIFICALLY FOR
SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS TO
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO COMMIT
CRIMES. THAT ARE ARE EITHER
BECAUSE OF THEIR CERTAIN AS IT
BEING HOMELESS OR BECAUSE THEY
HAVE BEHAVIORAL OR CURED A
PSYCHOSIS SUPPORT. INFLUENCE CAN
GET. CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
BUT ALSO GET THE RESOURCES TO
GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED AND
I THINK IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WERE IN THAT PROCESS
THOUGH NOT FULLY FUNDED NOT WITH
ALL OF OUR HEALTH COURTS. BEING
IN PLACE IN IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BUT WE'RE WORKING
TOWARDS THAT PROCESS AND I
BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR IS ALSO-
MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THAT ON
THAT FRONT AS WELL SO I THINK.
WITH THIS CASE I THINK THAT
WOULD COVER THE- IN. THE
CONCERNS AS FAR AS THAT
PARTICULAR SPACE OR THAT THOSE
CONCERNS ARE WITH THE OPPOSITION
BUT I THINK IT ALSO HOLDS PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE- AND IN MAKING SURE
THAT- YOU KNOW. NO ONE ATTENDING
CHURCH OR SCHOOLS SHOULD FEEL
THREATENED OR HAVE THAT FEAR IN
THERE SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. FOR
THAT BILL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO.
MAKING A MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL
FORWARD AND SUPPORTING THE BILL
MA'AM THANK YOU WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE. AM I JUST WANT TO
RESPOND. TO THE OPPOSITION'S
CONCERNS AND JUST WANT TO SHARE
THAT THIS COMMITTEE WORKED
DILIGENTLY. WITH ME AND MY STAFF
ON AMENDMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE
WERE NOT DUPLICATING EXISTING
LAW INCLUDING PENAL CODE SECTION
FOUR TWENTY TWO. AND THIS
PROVISION SPECIFICALLY PRECLUDES
PROSECUTION UNDER ANY OTHER LAW-
EXCEPT THAT A PERSON SHOULD NOT
BE CONVICTED THE SAME THREAT
UNDER BOTH THE SECTIONS SO AYE.
ASPIRIN AYE VOTE THANK YOU HAVE
A MOTION BY OTOBO- CAN WE-
SENATOR TROUBLING ARE- CAN WE
CALL ROLE. YES SB SEVEN NINETY
SIX THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS CENTER
WILL HOP HI I HAVE A- JOB I
BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE SKINNER
WIENER. WIENER AYE THANK YOU IS
THAT THE BILL WILL BE HELD ON
CALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK
YOU. YOU'RE GOING UP TO HAVE TO
LOOK. OF I. YEAH.
WELCOME SENATOR HYDE I BELIEVE
YOU'RE PRESENTING SB FOUR ZERO
FOUR PLEASE- PROCEED WHEN YOU
ARE READY WITH THANK YOU. AHA
MEMBERS I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU
TODAY ABOUT S. BEFORE- FOR THE
SAFE MINERS ACT- WHICH WILL
ENSURE THAT CHILDREN CALIFORNIA
CANNOT BE COERCED INTO ILLEGAL
MARRIAGES AS MANY OF YOU KNOW
CURRENT LAW IN CALIFORNIA
REQUIRES MINERS TO PARTICIPATE
IN A RIGOROUS PROCESS IN ORDER
TO OBTAIN PERMISSION TO MARRY
WHILE SOME MYSELF INCLUDED HAVE
CONCERNS WITH MINORS GETTING
MARRIED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
CALIFORNIA DOES HAVE SOME.
GUARDRAILS TO PROTECT CHILDREN
WHEN MERRY LEGALLY MINERS
RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR
RIGHTS AS AN EMANCIPATED MINOR
INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY CAN
SEPARATE FROM THEIR MARRIAGE AND
ARE. PROVIDED ACCESS TO THE
NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
HOTLINE AND NATIONAL SEXUAL
ASSAULT HOTLINE HOWEVER THE
CURRENT LAW DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR
INSTANCES IN WHICH A THIRD PARTY
ARRANGES ARE OFFICIATES AN
UNDERGROUND MARRIAGE BETWEEN A
MINOR AND ANOTHER PERSON THIS
GAP IN EXISTING LAW PUTS
CHILDREN OF ALL AGES AT RISK OF
BEING COERCED OR FORCED INTO
MARRIAGE BY THIRD PARTY. WITHOUT
THE PROTECTION PROVIDED THROUGH
CALIFORNIA'S LEGAL MARRIAGE
LICENSING PROCESS. SB FOUR FOUR
WHAT A LINE ILLEGAL CHILD
MARRIAGE WITH OTHER TYPES OF
ILLEGAL MARRIAGE BY MAKING IT A
MISDEMEANOR FOR ANY PERSON TO
WILLFULLY ARRANGE OUR FIST
OFFICIATE A MARRIAGE BETWEEN A
MINOR AND ANOTHER PERSON THAT
OCCURS OUTSIDE THE CONFINES OF
EXISTING MARRIAGE LICENSING
LAWS. OTHER TYPES OF ILLEGAL
MARRIAGE SUCH AS POLYGAMY. IS A
CRIME PUNISHABLE AS A WOBBLER
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME MAY
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CREATION
OF A NEW CRIME I FIRMLY BELIEVE
THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SHOULD MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO
PROTECT CHILDREN FROM
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ABUSE. AND
COERCION THIS BILL WILL HELP
PROTECT THE WELL BEING OF
CHILDREN IN CALIFORNIA AND
ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR LIVES AND
THEIR FUTURES FREE FROM UNDUE
INFLUENCE OR COERCION. SB FOUR
FOUR IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE
RIGHTS AND WELL BEINGS OF MINORS
IN CALIFORNIA- I URGE ALL OF YOU
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL AND HELPING
US INSURE THAT MINERS IN
CALIFORNIA ARE SAFE PROTECTED IN
POWER TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS
ABOUT THEIR LIVES. AND THEIR
FUTURE. THANK YOU SENATOR WELL
HOW DO YOU HAVE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES KNOWN OFFICE AND
SUPPORT OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY-
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB FOUR
ZERO FOUR HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. C. NINE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB FOUR ZERO FOUR
. SEE NON WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO SB
FOUR FOUR HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. SEEN NINE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES BOTH IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION. TO SB
FOUR ABOARD THE OUR
TELECONFERENCE SERVICES- JUST AS
A REMINDER TO THOSE IN Q. AT
THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE YOUR
NAME. YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOUR
POSITION ON ON THE BILL AN S.
BEFORE FOR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
ONLY- MISTER MODERATOR IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE QUEUE THE WITNESSES
IN BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB FOUR FOUR AND
WE WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AS SHE STATED IF YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SENATE
BILL FOR- FOR PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO POINT FELL BY
ZERO. ONE MORE REMINDER ONE FELL
BY ZERO IF YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB FOUR ZERO FOUR
. AND NOBODY'S QUEUING UP MADAM
CHAIR. THANK YOU MR MODERATOR-
AT THIS POINT WHEN IT. WILL HAVE
ANYONE THANK. SO WE WILL BRING
THE DISCUSSION BACK TO THE
MEMBERS ON THE DIET YOU HAVE ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WITH
REGARDS TO- AS BEFORE FOR. C.
NINE I JUST HAVE ONE POINT OF
CLARIFICATION I'M SUPPORTING THE
BILL- BUT DO WE- DOES THIS MAKE
AN EXCEPTION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
SEVENTEEN WITH THE PERMISSION OF
A PARENT HOW IS THAT WORKED.
WITH CELL IF THEY ALREADY HAVE
THE ABILITY TO GET MARRIED
LEGALLY WHICH I DO BELIEVE THAT
FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY THAT
THAT WOULD QUALIFY- AS A LEGAL
MARRIAGE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THIS IS PRIMARILY
FOR MINORS THAT ARE COERCED AND
KIND OF- FORCED INTO MARRIAGES-
THAT ARE NOT LEGALLY RECOGNIZED
AS ONE THAT WAS STATED IN IN MY
PRESENTATION EARLIER- THERE ARE
PLENTY OF OTHER MARRIAGES THAT-
OR- KIND OF. PRESSURED INTO
MARRIAGES THAT MAY NOT BE LEGAL
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH
LEGAL DOCUMENTATION BUT LET'S
SAY OTHER TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION
TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE MARRIED BUT
NOT UNDER THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU SENATOR
HOP I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE HIS
CLOSING STATEMENT I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE THANK YOU
SENATOR ROB- WITH THAT IN MIND
WITH NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS FROM OUR MEMBERS WE-
MADAM SECRETARY IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE- WE NEED A MOTION SORRY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CENTER
BRADFORD- AND SECRETARY IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SB
FOUR OH FOUR MOTION IS TO PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR ROB
NINE WILL HAVE IHO BURKE HI
WHICH ABOUT AYE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE SKINNER WIENER.
THANK YOU WE WILL PLACE THIS
BILL ON CALL FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
THANK YOU.
SO WE WILL LIFT THE CALL- BILLS
ON CALL. THIS ITEM TO SB
FOURTEEN MOTIONS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS. AS
SCORES FOR. VOTE WORD IS ZERO
BRADFORD. BRADFORD HIGH. THOSE
OUTSIDE. WHAT GROWTH ONE SB FOUR
AT THE JEEPNEYS SAY SORRY TO SAY
SB FOURTEEN- FIVE ZERO FIVE ZERO
IS OUT. AS BEFORE FOUR AMBERG
MOTION IS TO PASS TO APPROACH.
CURRENT IS ZERO THE CHOI BOGUE
THE CHILL OF AYE BRADFORD. THE
FAILS WANT TO SEE THE LATEST SB
FORTY FOUR ONE TO ZERO THAT BILL
FAILS. CONSENT CALENDAR- CONSENT
CALENDAR BRADFORD. BRADFORD HIGH
CALENDARS THIS IS SET CALENDARS
OUT. I AM SORRY SB TWO TWO SIX
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE TO ZERO BRADFORD. SKINNER
I BELIEVE THAT THE BILL WILL
REMAIN ON CALL. IDM EIGHT
HIGHWAY NINETY SKINNER.
RIGHT NOW. THIS IS BRADFORD. WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE OKAY
WE WILL LIFT. THE CAR. I THINK
YOU MET JUST THE- CLOTHES JUST
THE HOTEL. SO I BEFORE- FOR.
TWENTY FIVE. I AM SO B. FOR A
MOTIONS TO PASS TO A PRO CURRENT
BY IS THREE DAYS WE.
GEN. THE BILL. NO ITEM NUMBER
ELEVEN SB. THREE FORTY. RICHARD
THE STORY. WITH HEY. FIVE YEAH
IT WAS NINE DOT MOVED BECAUSE
SOMEONE. ME HERS WAIT OPPOSITION
THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. SENATOR
THE FOR IS YOURS WITH A YOU
HERE'S THE CAN AND A HALF BILL
SENATOR- DELIVER- SB THREE OR
THE OTHERWISE AS THE BETTER
ACCESS TO VISION ACT CURRENT
STATE POLICY HELLO FOLKS KNOW
THIS REQUIRE AYE GLASSES FOR
MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES TO BE
OBTAINED THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA
PRISON INDUSTRY OR THE PIAA-
UNFORTUNATELY AND THE- SYSTEM
HAS BEEN YOU KNOW ANYTIME YOU
HAVE A ONE PERSON PROVIDER IT
GETS FRAUGHT WITH WITH ISSUES-
OFTENTIMES AS WE KNOW MEDICAL
SERVING THE POOREST OF THE POOR
MOST IS MOST DISABLED. THE
BIGGEST ISSUE WE HEAR ABOUT AS
KIDS WITH CLASSES- THAT THE WAIT
A LONG TIME TO GET THEIR GLASSES
AND THEN ONCE THEY GET THEM BACK
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE'S A
PROBLEM WITH THEM THERE'S NOT AN
EASY PLACE TO BE ABLE TO GET
THAT FIXED YOU JUST CAN'T GO
BACK AND GET IT FIXED AGAIN- SO
WE ARE HUGE FANS OF THE P. I. A.
THE PRISON AUTHORITY AND
UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO GET
PEOPLE THE EXPERIENCE OF
WORKING. NOW WE ALSO KNOW IS
ABOUT FOURTEEN HUNDRED OTHER
PROGRAMS AND WE'RE NOT SAYING
THE PA CAN'T PROVIDE FOR THESE
CLASSES WERE JUST SAYING OTHER
SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR IT
TO GIVE CONSUMERS CHOICE- I SAW
WEARING GLASSES WHEN I WAS. IN
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND I CAN'T TO
THE DIFFERENCE IT MADE IN MY
LIFE WHEN I WENT FROM- YOU KNOW
NOT TO APPEAR VERY WELL AT ALL.
I'LL NEVER FORGET AT THAT TIME
THEY STILL WE STILL HAD THE- BUS
BENCHES MEMBER THOSE A BUS
BENCHES AND THEY WOULD HAVE
ADVERTISEMENTS ANA. AND I CAME
OUT OF THE AND I COULD READ
EVERYTHING AND IT WAS LIKE A
LIGHT HAD GONE ON IN MY HEAD.
AND I HAVE BEEN AN AVID READER
EVER SINCE. ANYWAY THIS IS A
LITTLE A LITTLE PIVOT AROUND.
FOR YOU ON MY ON MY EYES AND MY
VISION HISTORY. BUT WITH ME.
HERE TODAY I HAVE. ANNOUNCER ON
TALKING POINTS. ANYWAY I HAVE I
HAVE- AFTER DA JEFF COURSE I
BELIEVE HE STILL STILL HERE AN
APARTMENT. AND TERRY MCHALE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
OPTOMETRY ASSOCIATION. MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
I'LL BE REAL QUICK IT'S A-
THEY'VE BEEN GOOD NEWS AND BAD
NEWS IN THE PRISON SYSTEM. THIS
GOVERNOR'S HAD THE COURAGE IN
THIS LEGISLATURE IS HAD THE
FORTHRIGHT. WILLINGNESS TO CLOSE
DOWN OF PRISONS WE'VE GONE FROM
A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND
PRISONERS TO NINETY FIVE. AND WE
LOSE ONE THIRD OF THE WORKFORCE.
IT IMPACTS WHAT YOU DO WITH THE
PRISON INDUSTRY AUTHORITIES. WE
LIKE THE PIAA WHERE IT WORKS
UNFORTUNATELY IT DOES NOT WORK
WITH OPTOMETRY. THE NUMBER ONE
COMPLAINT ABOUT THOMAS RECEIVE.
IS FROM MEDICARE PATIENTS WHO
HAVE TO WAIT SO MUCH LONGER.
THAN PATIENTS WHO ARE NOT NEW TO
MEDICARE. SO WE APPRECIATE DR
EGGMAN CARRYING THIS BILL AND-
DISCUSS THROUGH FIRST COMMITTEE
UNANIMOUSLY. AND WE'RE ASKING
FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE
ANOTHER LEAD SUPPORT WITNESS.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. YOU MADAM
CHAIR. COMMITTEE I GET AFTERNOON
. MY IS DR JEFFREY GARCIA I AM
AN OPTOMETRIST. I PRACTICE IN
THE BEAUTIFUL CENTRAL. VALLEY OF
CALIFORNIA- MY PRACTICES IN THE
MORE- CORCORAN AND BY CELAYA.
AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LIVING
IN THAT AREA RECOGNIZE THAT THAT
IS A VERY. IMPOVERISHED LOW
INCOME REGION AND IT HAS THE
HIGHEST PER CAPITA MEDIKAL
POPULATION OF THE WHOLE STATE.
UPWARDS 260% AND IT'S RISING AS-
PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING
UNEMPLOYMENT. I AM VERY VERY
PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THAT
POPULATION A VERY HARD WORKING-
MEMBERS OF THE AGRICULTURAL
INDUSTRY AND A LOCAL BUSINESSES
RELATED TO AGRICULTURE- BUT- WE
DO NEED WE DO HAVE A CRISIS SO.
I'VE BEEN IN PRACTICE FOR THIRTY
YEARS IN THAT AREA AND GETTING
MEDICAL GLASSES HAS BEEN A
PROBLEM IN THAT AREA FOR THIRTY
YEARS IT HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT LONG WAIT
TIMES FOR GLASSES TO COME BACK
ADULT AND CHILDREN- AND IT IS A-
AN AREA OF CONCERN FOR OUR
PRACTICE BECAUSE WE DO GET A LOT
OF COMPLAINTS. THERE'S NOT A LOT
WE CAN DO- I ALSO WORKED AS AN
OPTOMETRIST IN SEVEN PRISONS
WITHIN THE AREA THAT I LIVE. SO
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH PHP
OPTICAL I AM VERY. FAMILIAR WITH
THE INEFFICIENCIES AND
CHALLENGES THEY'VE HAD- AND IT
HASN'T GOTTEN ANY BETTER OVER
THE LAST TWENTY YEARS IN FACT IT
MAY HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT
WORSE- SO. YOU AS YOU AS ALL OF
US WHO ARE GLASSES WE KNOW IF WE
DON'T HAVE A CLASSES FOR A WEEK
IT'S A VERY IT'S AN
INCONVENIENCE IF WE DON'T HAVE A
CLASSES FOR A MONTH. OR TWO.
THAT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON A
CHILD'S ABILITY TO LEARN. AND
ADULTS ABILITY TO DRIVE. TO WORK
SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR PLEA IS
JUST ALLOW US. TO PROVIDE A MORE
EFFICIENT. OPPORTUNITY TO GET
GLASSES TO OUR PATIENTS- THIS
DOES NOT GET RID OF P. I.
OPTICAL AGAIN THEY HAVE.
ANSWERED DISAPPEAR WELL. THAT WE
FEEL IF WE OPEN IT UP. TO THE
PRIVATE SECTOR IT WILL. ONLY
MAKE THE SYSTEM MORE EFFICIENT-
THERE WAS TO BE. THAT P. TURNS.
AROUND A FIVE DAY I CAN TELL.
FIRSTHAND THAT. FAR FROM THE
TRUTH IT IS A MINIMUM OF THIRTY
DAYS TO GET A PAIR OF GLASSES.
BACK YOU KNOW THE TIME THAT WE
SENT A MAC. STAND OUT. TO THE
TIME RECEIVE THEM IS EASILY
THIRTY PLUS DAYS CONSISTENTLY.
DURING KOBE IT WAS THREE TO FOUR
MONTHS. I WORKED IN THE PRISON
SYSTEM- DRINK OF IT AND- I
CONTESTED THAT. THING- OKAY. SO
I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT
FOR US AND WE WILL- SENATE BILL
THREE FORTY. AND WE CAN DO
BETTER THANK YOU THANK YOU
APPRECIATE IT ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES HERE- AS ME TO SING
NINE WILL MOVE ON TO LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. YOU WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES- SEEING NONE WE
WILL MOVE ON TO ME TO
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE- WE WILL
MOVE TO A WITNESSES- SEEKING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PLEASE FROM
THE FIRST INDIVIDUALS. R. ONE
MOMENT HERE. HELLO LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION
OR COMMENT PRESS ONE. IF YOU'RE
ON YOUR TELEPHONE KEYPAD. WE'LL
GO TO LINE THREE. NINETY THREE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ARE YOU THIS
DOCTOR DUCK PAGER ON THE
CERTIFIED CORRECTIONAL HEALTH
PROVIDER NUMBER OF YEARS STRONG
SUPPORT. ALSO REPRESENTED WITH.
WHY AM I REPRESENTING THE
EDUCATION SUPPORT. OF THE TWO
PLUS MILLION JORDAN. I AND ALSO
AND THEY OPEN WORK FOR OUR HERO
DR EGGMAN AND ALTHOUGH WHO VOTED
THE LAST YEAR THANK YOU MUCH.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LINE FOR ONE
ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS DR MICHAEL MENDOZA- ARBITRAGE
PRACTICING IN FRESNO CALIFORNIA
AND I'M PART OF THE CENTRAL
VALLEY- BEEN INVOLVED A LOT OF
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND- I'M
HERE IN SUPPORT OF SB. THREE
FORTY- NAPO TWO LINE NUMBER.
FOUR ONE TWO FOUR TWELVE. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. FOR TWELVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD- HELLO MY NAME IS DOCTOR
HENRY KWAN I AM AN OPTOMETRIST
PRACTICING IN SAN JOSE
CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN SUPPORT
OF S. B. REPORTER. I WILL HAVE
TO GO TO LINE FOR TEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS DR CHRIS
FISCHER COMING UP DOCTORS
PRACTICING FRESNO CALIFORNIA AND
I'M IN SUPPORT OF SB. THREE
FORTY. WE HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENT AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU
WE WILL NOW BRING THE
CONVERSATION BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBERS YOU
GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS
THOUGHTS- SENATOR WHICH OBOE HAS
MOVED THE ITEM- CENTER WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND I WANT TO THANK DR
GARCIA AND THE OTHER DOCTORS WHO
TESTIFIED WHO TREAT OUR MEDICAL
PATIENTS THAT EVERYBODY WHO DOES
THAT SO I WANT TO THANK THEM.
AND THINKING YOU ALL IN ADVANCE
ASK FOR YOUR I. BOATS THANK YOU
CAN WE CALL ROLE. YEAH SB THREE
FORTY MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CENTER WILL HOP
ON HOP IETS OVER. TO ABOUT AYE
BRADFORD. SKINNER WIENER. WIENER
AYE. THE BILL IS ON CALL THANK
YOU SENATOR. OUR NEXT
PRESENTATION WILL BE BY SENATOR
MCGUIRE SB SIX OH ONE. SHARE
INTERFERENCE SO WE HAVE ANOTHER
SENATOR THAT WILL BE PRESENTING
INSTEAD- SENATOR- BURKE- SB FIVE
FIVE. YES YEAH. THIRTY RIGHT
WELL THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR WE
SEEM TO LIVING IN OTHER'S TODAY-
BEFORE YOU S. B. FIVE FIVE
MEMBERS THIS COMMITTEE- SIR FOR
A COUPLE YEARS. RECALL THIS
ISSUE THE ISSUE IS THE
PREVENTION OF CATALYTIC
CONVERTER THEFTS. AND WHAT WHAT
THIS BILL DOES IS THIS BILL.
REQUIRES THAT A UNIQUE NUMBER OF
VIN NUMBER BE ETCHED A CATALYTIC
CONVERTER IF IT IS REASONABLY
ACCESSIBLE TO THE DEALER- WE-
HAVE EXPERIENCE AGAIN AND-
ABSOLUTELY. SORT OF EXPONENTIAL
INCREASE IN- KELLY CONVERTED
THEFT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY
BEST ILLUSTRATED BY THE FACT
THAT THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER ON
THE- OSCAR MAYER WIENERMOBILE
THE ASSOCIATION WAS SENATOR
WIENER WAS ACTUALLY STOLEN OF
LATE. SO YEAH THE WINNER WILL
BILL NO LONGER HAS A CATALYTIC
CONVERTER LEASED IT DIDN'T FOR A
WHILE I THINK IT'S BEEN REPLACED
NOW- AND THAT'S JUST THAT SORT
OF ILLUSTRATES THE LEVEL OF
CONCERN HERE I'M I'M BEING A
BIT. OF FLIPPANT THIS IS NOT A
FLIPPANT ISSUE THIS IS A VERY
SERIOUS ISSUE. LITERALLY TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF NOT HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS CALIFORNIA'S BEEN
IMPACTED BY THIS WHEN KELLY
COVERS STOLEN IT MEANS THAT THAT
YOUR CAR IS REALLY. NOT OPERABLE
AND IT'S GOING TO COST BETWEEN
ONE THOUSAND RECENTLY WAS A FORM
SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPLACE
THAT THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER- SO
ON I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO
QUESTIONS BUT WITH ME. HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS A DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. ALEXANDER CAR
CANYON. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE
YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES THANK
YOU- MY NAME IS ALEX KIRK
INTERNALLY MY MOM CALLS ME
ALEXANDER- I'M WITH THE OF LOS
ANGELES DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE I'VE BEEN A DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THIRTY
YEARS. FOR FOURTEEN OF THOSE
YEARS I'VE WITH I'VE BEEN WITH
THE- TASK FORCE FOR AUTO THEFT
PREVENTION- I HAVE SERVED THERE
IS THE A DEPUTY IN CHARGE WITH
THE SPONSORS BEHIND THIS
LEGISLATION. AND OF COURSE IT'S
NO SURPRISE TO ANYBODY HERE THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT IS A
TERRIBLE PROBLEM- RIGHT NOW IT'S
A HIGH PROFIT LOW RISK CRIME AND
SO LONG AS IT STAYS HIGH PROFIT
AND LOW RISK WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
DESPITE HARD WORK BY THE- LAW
ENFORCEMENT ALL ACROSS
CALIFORNIA IN HARD WORK BY YOU
GUYS HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE OF
THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY
IN FACT I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN
UPDATE AS OF RIGHT NOW THE
PROBLEM CONTINUES TO GET WORSE
WHICH IS VERY UNFORTUNATE. AS
LONG AS THIS KIND OF THEFT IS A
BIG MONEY DEAL IT'S GOING TO
CONTINUE. UP BE A PROBLEM FOR
ALL OF US. SO ON BEHALF OF THE
OFFICE OF THE OF LOS ANGELES
DISTRICT ATTORNEY WE'RE HOPING
THAT THIS BILL IS GOING TO GET
US TO TURN A CORNER- AS THE-
SENATOR POINTED OUT. THE IDEA IS
TO PUT THE VIN NUMBER ON THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS AND THAT
WILL ALLOW US TO HOLD THE
THIEVES ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE
RIGHT NOW UNLESS WE ACTUALLY
CATCH THEM IN THE ACT. OF THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF TIME WE
CANNOT DO ANY KIND OF
PROSECUTION WE CAN'T HOLD THEM
RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY'VE
DONE. OF PEOPLE ACROSS
CALIFORNIA ARE GETTING THEIR
CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN ALL
THE TIME. AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE
HEARD ANY OF THE STORIES YOU
KNOW JUST WHAT A NIGHTMARE IT IS
WHEN YOU GET YOUR CATALYTIC
CONVERTER STOLEN. OF THE
REPLACEMENT COST IS ASTRONOMICAL
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE
WAIT TIMES CAN BE UP TO SIX
MONTHS YOU KNOW IT CAN BE A VERY
LONG TIME BECAUSE THESE. OF
PIECES ARE STOLEN SO OFTEN THAT
THE REPLACEMENTS JUST AREN'T
AVAILABLE- AS YOU ALL KNOW IT'S
A BAD PROBLEM. NOW IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AUTO SO
AFTER THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER
THEFT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER FOR
YOU- YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT
SOMETIMES YOU GUYS DO THANK YOU
OTHERWISE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE- IT
NEXT AT LEAST SUPPORT WITNESS.
JUST BE CAREFUL. OKAY THE SAME
PASSION WILL GO TO MEET HIS.
ATTACHMENT PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE
OF CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. TATUM
ACKERMAN THE CALIFORNIA NEW CAR
DEALERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
IT WAS EASY CINDY DESERVE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. MORE TOP ON BEHALF
OF ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
AUTHORITY IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
SEEN NO OTHER SUPPORT WHEN THIS
IS HERE- WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
ON TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
SEEING NO OPPOSITION WITNESSES
WILL ASK FOR ANY OTHER ME TOO
AWFUL NONE- WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TELL-
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PROMPT THE
FIRST INDIVIDUAL PLEASE. WE
HARPER KEEP INDIVIDUALS FROM
LINE THREE NINETY TWO PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU DAVID JONES
ABOUT THE CITY BURBANK
CONSTRUCTION WORK. WE'RE NOT
GOING TO LINE THREE NINETY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAMBER MEMBERS TO JOHNNY NOW ON
THE BIG DEAL ABOUT OF A- FIFTY
FIVE THANK YOU. CONTEXT AND WHAT
PRESS AND ZERO YOU HAVE ORDER.
WE'LL GO TO LINE FOR. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS
THIS COURT BLACKBURN ON THEM
BEHALF OF THE A LOT NOT A FOR
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENT THANK YOU WE WILL NOW
MOVE THE CONVERSATION TO MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE WITH ANY
COMMITTEE MEMBER LIKE TO COMMENT
. SEEING NONE SENATOR WOULD LIKE
TO CLOSE. OKAY JUST TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF- I AM VERY
GRATEFUL COMMITTEE STEP DOES NOT
CHARGING BY THE HOUR- AND SO I
URGE A NO VOTE THANK YOU AND
SENATOR I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT
I THINK THAT THIS IS- OBVIOUSLY
WE'VE BEEN SEEING A WIDE VARIETY
OF THEFT AND IF THIS CAN HELP-
AND WE HAVE THE BILL HAS BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR WIENER- LET'S
DO A- RECOUNT. SB FIFTY FIVE
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR HAN HI
HOP I OCHO VOTE TO ABOUT AYE
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE SKINNER
WIENER. WIENER AYE THAT'S BILL
WILL BE ON CALL- SENATOR I'M
BURKE WOULD YOU LIKE TO NOW
PRESENT SB NINETY NINE YES THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU OF
THIS KENNEDY AND OTHER STAFF
MEMBERS TO WORK ON THIS YOU'VE
ACTUALLY HEARD THIS BILL BEFORE-
THE PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL.
WERE CONTAINED IN SB TWENTY TWO
AND WHAT WE DID WAS WITH SB
TWENTY TO REAP WE- BASICALLY-
WE- MODIFIED IT SO WHAT YOU HAVE
BEFORE YOU. IS THE BILL WITHOUT
THE JUVENILE JUSTICE AND THE
CIVIL COMMITMENT- UP PORTIONS OF
THE BILL WHAT THIS BILL DOES IT
SIMPLY EXTENDS THE SUNSET. ON ON
NOT CRIMINAL REMOTE- ACCESS I
WOULD URGE AN AYE VOTE THANK YOU
I. DO WE HAVE ANY SUPPORT
WITNESSES. SCHERING RIGHTLY ON
BEHALF OF THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
HERE IN SUPPORT SERBIAN FOR.
JUDGE RODRIGUEZ WHO
UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO LEAVE
EARLY. AS THE US SENATOR
INDICATED YOU HAVE HEARD THE
SUBSTANCE OF THIS BILL ALREADY
SO I'LL JUST TRY TO. HIT A FEW
HIGH POINTS. CENTRAL TO SB
NINETY NINE IS THAT REMOTE
APPEARANCES REQUIRE THE INFORMED
CONSENT OF THE DEFENDANT THERE
MUST BE IN A KNOWING AND
INTELLIGENT WAIVER. AND THE
COURT MUST FIND THAT WAIVER ON
THE RECORD. WE DO BELIEVE THAT
IT PROVIDES GREATER ACCESS TO
JUSTICE BY GIVING DEFENDANTS THE
OPTION OF CONSENTING TO APPEAR.
REMOTELY SO THEY DON'T WORK LOSE
TIME FROM WORK SCHOOL X.
SENTARA- IT ALSO PROVIDES
GREATER ACCESS TO. WITNESSES
EXPERT WITNESSES SUCH AS
BEHAVIOR HEALTH EXPERTS WHO ARE
IN SHORT SUPPLY AND THERE ARE A
KEY COMPONENT REMOTE PROCEEDINGS
ARE KEY COMPONENTS. OF
COLLABORATIVE COURTS AND
DIVERSION COURTS WHICH MEET ON A
MUCH MORE FREQUENT BASIS WE
UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE ARE SOME
JUSTICE PARTNERS WHO HAVE
CONCERNS. ABOUT REMOTE
PROCEEDINGS WE HAVE BEEN IN
ACTIVE. PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS
ALONG WITH SENATOR UMBERG STAFF
ON SB TWENTY TWO THAT HAS
SIMILAR ISSUES AND MOST RECENTLY
ON AB FOURTEEN TWELVE WHICH IS
A- NOTHER CRIMINAL I'M REMOTE
PROCEEDINGS BILL. PENDING IN THE
ASSEMBLY- HAVING APPROPRIATE
TECHNOLOGY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO
THE JUDICIAL BRANCH AS CONCERNS
ARISE WE THE BRANCH HAS
ADDRESSED THEM AND WILL CONTINUE
TO DO SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH JUSTICE. PARTNERS
AND JUST ONE LAST. THING WE DO
HAVE AN ONGOING SERBIA OF
SATISFACTION WITH REMOTE
PROCEEDINGS AND AS OF MARCH
WE'RE STILL OUT AT NINETY SIX
PERCENT. WE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE
SO WITH THAT- WE URGE HER AYE
VOTE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM THANK
YOU THANK YOU NEXT LEAD WITNESS
. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS MICHAEL FURMAN I'M THE CHIEF
ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR
SAN MARINO COUNTY ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION. I COME TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF SB NINETY
NINE AS I DID WITH SB TWENTY TWO
WHEN HE CAME BEFORE YOU ON MARCH
TWENTY EIGHTH OF TWENTY THREE.
OFFICER ON BRICKS BILLS SEEK TO
EXTEND THE SUNSET PROVISIONS AS
YOU INDICATED. ALSO PERMITS BOTH
THE DEFENDANT AND THE PEOPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE
TESTIMONY THROUGH THE USE OF
REMOTE TECHNOLOGY THAT HAD
PREVIOUSLY BEEN AUTHORIZED BY
LAW. THE FOR EVEN THE PANDEMIC I
CENTER AMBLE BERG Q. WE POINT
OUT AT THE JOINT JUDICIARY AND
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING ON
MARCH SEVENTH. THE CURRENT
VERSION OF PENAL CODE SECTION
NINE SEVEN SEVEN POINT THREE
WOULD PROHIBIT PARTIES FROM THE
USE OF REMOTE TECHNOLOGY EVEN IF
IT WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE- TRIAL
COURT. PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC- MR STEVEN MONCK KILTS
ARE ACTUALLY POINTED OUT AT THAT
PARTICULAR HEARING THAT BEFORE
TWENTY TWENTY TO A PARTY COULD
REQUEST EVALUATION APPROVAL OF
THE TRIAL COURT FOR THE USE
REMOTE TECHNOLOGY. IN LIMITED
AREAS DISABILITY AS LONG BEEN
RECOGNIZED IN BOTH STATUTORY AND
SUPREME COURT DECISIONAL LAW. SB
NINETY NINE RETURNS THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO ALL LITIGANTS AND
RESTORES THE DISCRETION OF THE
TRIAL COURTS WITHIN OUR STATE TO
PERMIT UNDER VERY VERY LIMITED
INSTANCES. ARE THE USE OF
REBEKAH WROTE REMOTE TECHNOLOGY.
IF IT MEETS THE STANDARDS THAT
ARE ADVANCED BY THE UNITED
STATES SUPREME COURT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH AND WE ASK FOR YOUR I.
PHONE. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER ARMY TWO WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT TO WITNESS IN
THE PARK. THANK YOU. SEEING NO
OTHERS WILL MOVE TO LEAD
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON AHEAD
GOOD MORNING ON MY NOTES. LESLIE
CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE. I'M SURPRISED AT THE
MENTION OF A 96% POSITIVE
RESPONSE TO THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL. BECAUSE AS A MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE
DEPUTY PUBLIC DEFENDER. FEEL
POSITIVE ABOUT REMOTE
PROCEEDINGS EXCEPT IN VERY VERY
LIMITED SITUATIONS SUCH AS
CONTINUANCES OR NON EVIDENTIARY
HEARINGS. CONVENIENCE CANNOT BE
MORE IMPORTANT THAN PEOPLE'S
FREEDOM EFFICIENCY CANNOT BE OUR
FOCUS AT THE DETRIMENT OR
EXPENSE OF FAIR ADMINISTRATION
OF JUSTICE. VIRTUAL JUSTICE WAS
AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO A DIRE
PUBLIC HEALTH SITUATION HOWEVER
THE STATE WIDE COVERT NINETEEN
PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY HAS
ENDED OFFICIALLY BY THE
GOVERNOR. CPA IS NOT OPPOSED TO
A JUDICIOUS USE OF REMOTE
TECHNOLOGY IN CRIMINAL
PROCEEDINGS WERE NON EVIDENTIARY
HEARINGS OR PRE TRIAL
CONTINUANCES AS I HAD STATED.
HOWEVER ANY TECHNOLOGY MUST BE
ADEQUATE TO ENSURE A FAIR AND
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO JUSTICE WE
KNOW FROM PRIOR HEARINGS THE
MANY COURTS DON'T HAVE THAT KIND
OF TECHNOLOGY. THE LACK OF
ADEQUATE TECHNOLOGY IN REMOTE
HEARINGS CREATE DISPARITY FOR
LITIGANTS BECAUSE IT DENIES THEM
ACCESS STANFORD. CRIMINAL
JUSTICE CENTER STUDY FOUND IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE MYRIAD OF
PROBLEMS EXPERIENCED BY ALL
STAKEHOLDERS IN REMOTE
PROCEEDINGS. MANY PROBLEMS AND
ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE
JONES JOINT HEARING HELD BY THIS
COMMITTEE WITH THE HEALTH
COMMITTEE IN TESTIMONY BY
PROSECUTORS JUDGES DEFENSE
ATTORNEYS INTERPRETERS AND COURT
REPORTERS AMONG OTHERS THESE
INCLUDE LACK OF ACCESS LEADING
TO GRAVE IN THE QUALITY. 20% OF
THE POPULATION AND THE CENTRAL
VALLEY OR WITHOUT CONNECTIVE
ITTY NEARLY 25% OF LET NEXT
PERSON STATE WIDE OR UNCONNECTED
OR RELIANT ON SMARTPHONES NEARLY
19% OF RESIDENTS OF LOS ANGELES
OR WITHOUT CONNECTIVE ITTY. AS
ARE 23% OF PEOPLE SIXTY FIVE AND
OLDER. NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND
OR POOR CONNECTION CAN LEAD TO
ERRORS THAT CAN THEN LEAD TO
UNJUST INCARCERATION WITNESS
TESTIMONY MUST BE LIVE AND IN
PERSON AS TOO MANY THINGS CANNOT
BE CLEAR IN THE VIDEO CALL SUCH
AS OVERALL DEMEANOR. PHYSICAL
CUES OF EMOTIONAL RICHNESS
POSSIBILITY OF OFF CAMERA THANK
YOU COACHING. AND I HAVE LOTS
MORE TO SAY BUT LESS FOR YOU
KNOW VOTE THANK YOU. TWO MINUTES
. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS SANDRA BARRERA ON BEHALF
OF S. C. ARE YOU CALIFORNIA ALL
ALIGN OURSELVES WITH MISS
HOUSTON'S COMMENTS A WE HAVE THE
SAME POSITION AS WE HAD ON MARCH
TWENTY SECOND WHEN SB TWENTY TWO
WAS HEARD. OUT WERE OPPOSED TO
MOST AMENDED BECAUSE WE ALL WE
UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE REMOTE
OFFER SOME BENEFITS- WE'VE
LEARNED OVER THE LAST THREE
YEARS BUT IT ALSO HAS SOME
SHORTCOMINGS- AND OUR REQUESTED
AMENDMENTS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE
FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM OUR
MEMBERS ON BEST PRACTICES. OF
THE ROOM REQUESTED AMENDMENTS
INCLUDE STANDARD ON TECHNOLOGY
TRANSPORT TRANSPARENT PORTING
REQUIREMENTS PROTECTIONS FOR
VICTIMS AND THE ACCUSED AND A
PROHIBITION WHEN AN ACCURATE
VERBATIM RECORD CANNOT BE
MAINTAINED. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT
CREATING AN ACCURATE VERBATIM
RECORD REQUIRES THAT A JUDGE
COURT REPORTER AND COURT
INTERPRETER ARE ALL IN THE SAME
ROOM. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT
WE CAN ENSURE IF SOMETHING ISN'T
CLEAR THAT THE COURT REPORTER
CAN STOP AND MAKE SURE IT'S
REPEATED AND AN ACCURATE
TRANSCRIPT IS MAINTAINED. AT THE
PREVIOUS HEARING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS EXPRESSED THE HOPE THAT
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER WITH THE AUTHOR TO
ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS BUT TO DATE
WE STILL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR NO
VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO
HAVE ANY OTHER ME TOO AWFUL.
GOOD AFTERNOON- CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JANICE MILLER WITH ASKED
ME CALIFORNIA OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED THANK YOU THANK YOU.
JOSHUA THE BAY ON- BEHALF OF AND
NUMBER OF A ORGANIZATIONS WE ARE
NOT SUPPORTIVE YET- I AM ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA COURT
REPORTERS ASSOCIATION UNITED
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES- THE CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION OF INTERPRETERS AS
WELL AS A CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS
FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE. WE ARE NOT
SUPPORTIVE YET HOWEVER WE WILL
SUGGEST AMENDMENTS TO THE
AUTHOR- ONCE WE GET THOSE OF ME
TOO THANK YOU THEY COULD- SEEING
NO OTHER AWFUL WITNESSES WILL
MOVE TO THOSE WAITING TO TESTIFY
VIA TELECONFERENCE MODERATOR
WOULD YOU PUMP THE FIRST
INDIVIDUAL TO SPEAK. THANK YOU
LADIES AND DONALD PLEASE PRESS
ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION ONE FELL
BY. ZERO CENTER NOBODY'S GIVING
UP THANK YOU- WE WILL RETURN THE
CONVERSATION DOWN TO OUR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS
THOUGHTS CONCERNS SAYING NONE-
SENATOR I DO HAVE A QUESTION-
YOU'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO
SPEAK TO OPPOSITION AS TO HOW
YOU CAN IMPROVE THIS- ALL RIGHT
AND YOUR SUNSET IS WHEN IS THE-
ACTUAL TIMELINE- I BELIEVE THE
SUNSET ON THIS IS- JANUARY
THIRTY ONE EXCUSE ME DECEMBER
THIRTY ONE. OF THIS YEAR OKAY
PERFECT THANK YOU- WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE SENATOR SURE.
TRANSACTION AS YOU KNOW FOR THE
VARIOUS WE BEEN THROUGH AND
VARIOUS COMMITTEES NÂNG AS SOME
NOT A- NOT A BIG. OF ROOM-
REMOTE. COURT ANY CIVIL OR IF
IT'S- HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC I I'M
I'M FRANKLY. ABOUT THAT I DON'T
. I TOOK A THE CONVITE DA OF. AS
A ATTORNEY I WASN'T OFF AND I'M
LIKE. THAT I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL
WITH REMOTE- DEPOSITION TO SEEMS
TERRIBLE TO ME. PUTTING ALL OF
MY OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS ASIDE.
IN THIS BILL IS ANYONE. IS ANY
CRIMINAL DEFENDANT EVER FORCED
TO APPEAR- REMOTELY HELP- THEN
THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO MAKE
CLEAR IS THAT. THIS IS DIFFERENT
THAN THE CIVIL- REMOTE BILL THAT
SOMEONE WHO IS A CRIMINAL
DEFENDANT- THERE'S A
CONFRONTATION CLAUSE THE U. S.
CONSTITUTION AND THEY IF THEY
WISH TO BE PRESENT. THEY THEY
CAN BE PRESENT I UNDERSTAND AND
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WAS
POINTED OUT THERE ARE SOME
COURTS IN CALIFORNIA I'M HOPING
WAS PREVIOUS. TO TODAY WERE
ACTUALLY OF CONDUCTING THEIR
PROCEEDINGS ALL REMOTELY THAT IS
ILLEGAL. SO I'LL MAKE THAT
CLEAR. THAT IS ILLEGAL IF YOU
WISH TO BE PRESENT YOU HAVE A
REAL ESPECIALLY IN CRIMINAL
PROCEEDINGS YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO
BE PRESENT. I YOU SO AND THAT'S
I'M COMFORTABLE THE BILL
FORWARD- HAVE A SOME LEVEL OF
DISCOMFORT BUT I DO APPRECIATE
ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS-
WHAT CUT WHAT CONFIDENCE LEVEL
DO YOU HAVE THAT THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL IS HOLDING COURTS.
ACCOUNTABLE TO FOLLOW THE LAW
NOT SUBTLY PRESSURE PEOPLE OR
CREATE INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO
GO REMOTE I KNOW YOU KNOW
THERE'S- A WIDE SPECTRUM OF
JUDGES INCLUDING SOME. OF THE
BEST VERY BEST JUDGES AROUND.
AND THERE ARE JUDGES WHO. MAYBE
COULD JUDGE IS IN A LOT OF WAYS
BUT WE WANT TO DO THINGS THEIR
OWN WAY AND- MAY OR MAY NOT-
CARE THAT MUCH. YOU KNOW WHAT
YOU KNOW. WELL I DOUBT IT- LET
ME SPEAK FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL
JUDGE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
NOW TO PLEASE THE- THAT'S THAT'S
A JOKE BY THE WAY- THAT. THAT
THERE'S PROBABLY A WIDE SPECTRUM
OF JUDGES SOME JUDGES WHO LIKE
REMOTE TESTIMONY SOME JUDGES WHO
DON'T LIKE REMOTE TESTIMONY- YOU
KNOW LIKE I ACTUALLY HAVE
EXPERIENCE WITH REMOTE TESTIMONY
REMOTE DEPOSITIONS. EVEN
CONDUCTING PORTIONS OF THE TRIAL
REMOTELY- AND- I MEAN THERE ARE
MANY BENEFITS THIS IS CIVIL NOT
CRIMINAL THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
RIGHT NOW. IN TERMS OF BEING
ABLE TO PRODUCE WITNESSES AT A
MUCH LOWER COST THAN WOULD
OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED- DEFENSE-
NOW I'M SPEAKING ABOUT CRIMINAL
DEFENSE. CRIMINAL DEFENSE
COUNSEL FOR EXAMPLE HAS A
WITNESS OF ALIBI WITNESS IN
ILLINOIS WHO. EITHER THEY CAN'T
AFFORDABLE COME TO CALIFORNIA
PREPS YOU GET THEM TEST FOR
REMOTELY. SO I THINK THERE ARE
SOME BENEFITS OF ACROSS THE
BOARD. BUT AS TO THE QUESTIONS
THAT ARE RAISED ABOUT THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE
DEFENDANT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO
BE PRESENT I FULLY EXPECT HIM
AND- I THINK WE MAKE CLEAR IN
THE BILL THAT THEY MAY BE
PRESENT- IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY.
BOB YES. WE WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY
THAT EXISTS IN VIRTUALLY EVERY
COURT IN CALIFORNIA- I'M I'M
CERTAIN THAT WE COULD DO BETTER
ARE WE DOING ENOUGH I THINK
THAT. IN LARGE PART WE ARE BUT
THE KEY HERE IS THAT. THE JUDGE
HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE
SURE THAT RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED
AND THAT A RECORD IS COMPLETE
AND ACCURATE. IF THE JUDGE
SOMEHOW EVERY GATES HER
RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE FOR
HIS RESPONSIBLY MAKE SHOES A
COMPLETE ACCURATE RECORD. THEN
COUNCIL COUNCIL HAS A DEEP
INTEREST IN FACT I WOULD EVEN
SUGGEST THAT IT'S- EITHER
MALPRACTICE OR INEFFECTIVENESS
OF COUNSEL EFFECTIVE COUNSEL TO
NOT SURE YOU'VE GOT A RECORD FOR
PURPOSES OF APPEAL SO. I WON THE
LAST THING I WILL SAY THIS IS I
GUESS THE REQUEST TO YOU IS
CHAIR OF THE RICHER COMMITTEE
AND TO THIS COMMITTEE- I THINK
IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. BOTH
SHOULD BE CONDUCTING WHETHER
IT'S FORMAL OR INFORMAL.
OVERSIGHT OF THE COURTS TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS IS GOING. WELL
BECAUSE IF THERE ARE IF WE DO
SEE THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER AND THE JUDGES ARE ARE
ALL. YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF
LATITUDE IN THEIR OWN COURT
ROOMS- AND- IF THIS STARTS WE
START SEEING PROBLEMS I THINK WE
NEED TO. BE WILLING TO REVISIT
THIS- AND I THINK THAT THE
JUDICIARY PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEES ARE IN THE BEST
POSITION. WHETHER IT'S OVERSIGHT
HEARINGS OR INFORMAL OVERSIGHT
TO MONITOR THAT. ALL RIGHT SO
THAT YOU OF ALL CLUB ADDRESS AT
MY CLOTHES. ALL RIGHT- WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE I WOULD LIKE TO
CLOSE. THANK YOU AND THAT'S WHY.
LAST TIME WE DID THIS REQUIRED
JUDICIAL COUNCIL TO DO A SURVEY
AND THE SURVEY RESULTS OF IF
COME BACK AND- I'LL ASK FOLKS
WOULD JUST COME TO MAKE SURE
THEY PROVIDE THOSE RESULTS. TO
YOU AND I AND I AGREE IT'S OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE.
CONTINUAL OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE
THE CALIFORNIANS HAVE EQUAL
ACCESS. OF AT LEAST AS EQUAL AS
WE POSSIBLY CAN MAKE IT EQUAL
ACCESS TO JUSTICE. THANK YOU I
HEARD ABOUT DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
OKAY MOVED BY SENATOR WIENER-
CAN CALL ROLE. AS NINETY NINE
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR ROB HI
OHIO. JOB AYE BRADFORD. BRADFORD
AYE SKINNER WIENER. WIENER I.
STILL WILL BE ON CALL ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU THANK YOU. WE'LL BE
WAITING FOR ANOTHER AUTHOR.
CHANGE. C. IT'S ONE OF.
I DON'T KNOW.
MR MAJORITY LEADER HE'S GONNA
TAKE HIS OWN DEDICATED CHAIR. I
HE'S PICKING IT PICKING A
DIFFERENCE HERE FROM LAST TIME.
OKAY THIS IS ONE MOMENT FROM
THE- IS- ITEM ITEM NUMBER
FOURTEEN SB SIX OH ONE AND
CENTER MCGUIRE YOU MAY PRESENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MISTER JERRY
MEMBERS NO IT IS A CRAZY DAY AND
I WILL BE BRIEF I WANT TO THANK
THE CHAIR AND- HER STAFF FOR THE
INCREDIBLE WORK ON THE PORTLET
DISTILLATION BOTTOM LINE IS SB
SIX THE ONES GOING TO PROTECT
HOMEOWNERS STRUGGLING TO REBUILD
THEIR HOMES FROM FRAUDULENT
CONTRACTORS. THE GOLDEN STATE
CONTINUES TO FACE I'M PASSING
DISASTERS SUCH AS MAKING FIRES
EARTHQUAKES AND FLOODS IN
THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIANS HAVE
LOST THEIR HOMES IN THESE
DEVASTATING DISASTERS IN LOSING
A HOME IS TOUGH ENOUGH BUT
ENDING UP WITH AN EXPERIENCED
CONTRACTOR OR WORSE A CONTRACTOR
WHO INTENT INTENTIONALLY TAKES A
JOB KNOWING THEY CANNOT FINISH
HAS MADE THE REBUILDING PROCESS
IN THE HEALING PROCESS
INCREDIBLY TRAUMATIC. SINCE TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN THE
CONTRACTORS STATE LICENSING
BOARD HAS RECEIVED ON AVERAGE
HUNDRED EIGHTY DISASTER RELATED
COMPLAINTS THAT'S UP.
SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS
FOUR YEARS WHICH AVERAGE ONLY
ABOUT TWENTY FOUR MOST OF THESE
COMPLAINTS FROM CONSUMERS AND
DECLARED DISASTER AREAS WHO ARE
HARMED BY UNSCRUPULOUS
CONTRACTORS TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SB
SIX OH ONE AND I DO WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU TO THE BOARD. FURTHER
A PARTNERSHIP ON THIS NUMBER ONE
IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE
STATUE LIMITATIONS FOR THE AND
FALL UNLAWFUL USE OF A LICENSE
TO THREE YEARS. THAT'S UP FROM
THE CURRENT ONE YEAR AND WANT TO
BE VERY CLEAR THOUGH THE
MAJORITY OF CONTRACTORS WHO WERE
ADVANCING WITH REBUILT ARE DOING
RIGHT BY THEIR CUSTOMERS. BUT
THERE ARE SOME ROAD CONTRACTORS
WHO CHARGE FIRE SURVIVORS FULL
PRICE FOR REBUILDS THE INCLUDED
SHODDY WORK COUNTLESS MISTAKES
OR JUST BEING HONEST THEY TOOK
THEIR MONEY AND RAN. SOME JOBS
OR EVEN COMPLETED AND SOME JOBS
THAT WORSE OR EVEN STARTED. SO
IT'S SIX OH ONE ENSURES THAT
CONTRACTORS WHO WORK IN DISASTER
DECLARED AREAS ARE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
NOW I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
MISTER CHAIR THAT WE HAVE HEARD
CONCERNS FROM THE COW FROM
CHARITY FEDERATION ON THE
PAYMENT PERFORMANCE BOND PIECE
OF THIS BILL. I'M IN THE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE I COMMITTED
TO REMOVE THIS LANGUAGE FROM THE
BILL BUT DUE TO THE TIGHT TIME
LIMITS BETWEEN COMMITTEES WHICH
WE ARE LIVING THE DREAM WITH.
THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
TAKE THOSE AMENDMENT CHECK BUT
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SO. IN THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WE'RE
ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE
STATE LICENSING BOARD ON OPTIONS
TO ENSURE. UNSCRUPULOUS
CONTRACTORS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
THROUGH POTENTIAL PENALTY
PROPOSAL. I WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU SO MUCH TO MISS THE MARK WHO
IS WITH US TODAY. SHE'S CHIEF
LEGISLATION FOR THE CONTRACTORS
STATE LICENSE BOARD. SHE HAS
BEEN AN ABSOLUTE ST. CAMPING OUT
HERE FOR HOURS- AND- SHE'S GONNA
HAVE TO START PAYING RENT SHE'S
BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG. BUT AGAIN
MISTER MARTIN. GRATEFUL TO YOU
AND TO THE BOARD. I FOR YOUR
WORK IN YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WE ARE SO GRATEFUL YOU'RE WITH.
AND AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME
WILL. TURN OVER TO MISS THE MARK
. GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME WE
WILL NOW PROCEED WITH OUR LEAD
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB SIX
OH ONE. WELL THANK YOU CHAIR
HANG COMMITTEE MEMBERS THE
CENTER MCGUIRE. MY NAME IS YOUR
FINAL MURATSUCHI FOR LEGISLATION
FROM THE CONTRACTORS STATE
LICENSE BOARD WHERE IN SUPPORT
OF SB SIX ZERO ONE. AS
CALIFORNIA CONTINUES TO
EXPERIENCE SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS
THAT DAMAGE HOMES THE
CONTRACTORS STATE LICENSE BOARD
CONDUCTS OUTREACH AT LOCAL
ASSISTANCE CENTERS. OPERATED BY
THE CALIFORNIA OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY SERVICES TO EDUCATE
HOMEOWNERS ABOUT CONTRACTOR
LICENSING REQUIREMENTS HOWEVER.
A CONSUMER CANNOT PROTECT
THEMSELVES BY CHECKING A
LICENSE. IF THE UNLICENSED
CONTRACTORS UNLAWFULLY USING THE
VALID LICENSE OF ANOTHER.
CONSUMERS WHO ARE RECOVERING
AFTER DISASTER DON'T OFTEN FILE
A COMPLAINT IMMEDIATELY AS THEIR
PRIORITIES ARE ON OTHER
IMPORTANT MATTERS. CONSEQUENTLY
CSL B. IS OFTEN PREVENTED FROM
PURSUING CRIMINAL ACTION MAKING
THE ONLY OPTION ADMINISTRATIVE
DISCIPLINARY ACTION WHICH IS NOT
AS EFFECTIVE IT TO TURN.
EXTENDED MISTER OF LIMITATIONS
WILL ALLOW THE SLB VESTER GAVE
THESE COMPLAINTS AND PURSUE
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION WHEN THE
EGREGIOUS NESTS. OF THE
VIOLATIONS WARRANT THAT. IN
ADDITION REGARDING THE- FINDS
THAT CENTER MCGUIRE MENTIONED-
WE- EDUCATE. CONSUMERS ABOUT
HOME IMPROVEMENT CONTRACT
CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS AT THOSE
LOCAL ASSISTANCE CENTERS. THOSE
REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE MAXIMUM
DOWN PAYMENT LIMITS OF ONE
THOUSAND DOLLARS OR 10% OF THE
CONTRACT PRICE WHICHEVER IS
LESS. ADDITIONALLY CONTRACTORS
CANNOT REQUEST OR ACCEPT PAYMENT
FOR MORE THAN THE SERVICES OR
MATERIALS DELIVERED. WHEN
CONSUMERS USE AN UNLICENSED
CONTRACTOR OR PAY LARGE ANTI
LEGAL DOWN PAYMENTS OR PROGRESS
PAYMENTS THE CHANCE OF POOR
WORKMANSHIP OR JOB ABANDONMENT
INCREASE. NOPE CONSUMER DESERVES
THAT ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE
ALREADY VICTIMS OF A NATURAL
DISASTER. ALTHOUGH THESE
PRACTICES ARE ILLEGAL THE CIVIL
PENALTY IS RELATIVELY LOW FOR
THEIR CHRISTMAS OF THE
VIOLATION. HIGHER FINES ARE
INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS TO PROSECUTE THESE
CASES THE GOAL. OF PROSECUTION-
GOES HAND IN HAND WITH EXTENDING
THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR
PROSECUTION OF UNLESS LICENSE
ACTIVITY IN DISASTER AREAS TO
BETTER CONSERVE PROTECT THESE
CONSUMERS. TOGETHER THESE
AMENDMENTS WILL INCREASE THE
SOB'S ABILITY TO PROTECT THOSE
CONSUMERS THROUGH INCREASED
PROSECUTION FOR FRAUDULENT USE
OF A LICENSE AN ILLEGAL PAYMENT
PRACTICES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION THANK YOU
SENATOR MCGUIRE HEAD AND WE
APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER LEAD WITH A
SYSTEM THAT WILL CONTINUE WITH
OUR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB
SIX THE ONE HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE WILL
NOW CONTINUE WITH LEAD WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. TO SIX OH ONE.
SEE NOTE LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WILL CONTINUE TO- WITH
WITH THIS IS IN OPPOSITION HERE
IN ROOM AT TWENTY TWO HUNDRED.
SEE NOW WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION GET THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS- AND JUST
AS A REMINDER TO THOSE WAITING
TO TESTIFIED YET THE
TELECONFERENCE WE ARE CURRENTLY
SEEKING JUST YOUR NAME YOUR
POSITION AND YOU THE
ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE
REPRESENTING. AS WE MOVE
FORWARD- MISTER MODERATE IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE QUEUE UP ALL THE
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX A ONE WE
WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR I AS SHE STATED PLEASE
PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO IF
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO SENATE BILL SIX HUNDRED AND
ONE. SB. SIX OH ONE. MORE
REMINDER ASSURING SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX BUT ONE. GO
AHEAD HIT ONE FILED BY ZERO AT
THIS TIME WITH. I NOBODY IS UP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR
MODERATOR- WE WANT TO THANK THE
WITNESSES IN THE WITNESS IN
SUPPORT OF SB SIXTY ONE FOR
BEING HERE TODAY AND TESTIFYING
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. WE'LL
BRING YOU BACK TO THE DYESS- FOR
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
OUR MEMBERS. THE BILL. WE HAVE A
MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL BY
SENATOR WIENER MADAM SECRETARY
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL I'M
SORRY SENATOR MCGUIRE WHICH LIKE
TO CLOSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
HAS IT EVERYWHERE A MEDICINE
WHICH IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL SB SIX SO WHEN MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR A HOBBY. A JOB OKAY HI
TO ABOUT AYE BRADFORD. SKINNER
MCGUIRE SPELL HI SKINNER AYE
WIENER WIENER AYE. WE'LL KEEP
THAT THE BILL UNCALLED FOR AFTER
MEMBERS THANK YOU CENTER MCGUIRE
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
WELCOME SENATOR RUBIO AND I
BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE
PRESENTING SB SIX OH THREE. YES
I DON'T NUMBER FIFTEEN PLEASE
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE TODAY I'M
PRESENTING SB SIX OH THREE A
BILL THAT WILL STRENGTHEN
PROTECTIONS ON CHILD FORENSIC
INTERVIEWS AND RECORDINGS FOR
CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED
SEXUALLY OR PHYSICALLY THIS BILL
CREATES A PROCESS AND STANDARDS
TO HELP PROTECT CHILDREN BY
REQUIRING DOCUMENTS TO BE
RELEASED BY A PROTECTIVE ORDER.
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR WORKING HARD WITH MY
OFFICE I KNOW IT'S BEEN ONGOING
THAT WOULD FURTHER CLARIFY WHEN
RECORDINGS MAY BE RELEASED AS
WELL AS WHEN RECORDINGS MUST BE
RETURNED. I ALSO KNOW THAT SOME
OPPOSITION REMAINS AND I WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM
THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS
CALIFORNIA DOES NOT HAVE
CLARITY. A IT'S NOT CLEARLY
DEFINED LEGAL LIMITS FOR RECENT
RECORDING FOR CHILD FORENSIC
INTERVIEWS THAT LEAVE VICTIMS
EXPOSE THE RELEASE OF INTERVIEWS
AND RECORDINGS CAN RE TRAUMATIZE
A CHILD AS THEIR IDENTITY
BECOMES PUBLIC AND THEY GET TO
SEE. THE TRAUMA ONCE AGAIN WHEN
A FORENSIC INTERVIEW WAS
RECORDED THE INTERVIEW IS
DESIGNED TO OUT TO COLLECT THE
CHILD'S UNIQUE INFORMATION WHEN
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT
POSSIBLE SEXUAL AND PHYSICAL
ABUSE OR WHEN THE CHILD WAS
WITH- HAS WITNESSED. ABUSE
AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON CHILDREN
ADVOCATES SAID AND I'M SORRY THE
CHILDREN ADVOCACY CENTER ART A
CRITICAL RESOURCE FOR FAMILIES
AND VICTIMS OF ABUSE. THEY
CURRENTLY SHARE REPORTS AND
INFORMATION REGARDING CHILD
ABUSE AND ALSO PROVIDE A VARIETY
OF SERVICES TO THE CHILD AND TO
THEIR FAMILIES THIS BILL IS
SEEKING TO BUILD OFF EXISTING
LAW AND PROTECT THE WORK THAT
WAS DONE. BY THIS ADVOCACY
CENTER BY ENSURING SENSITIVE
RECORDINGS CAN ONLY BE RELEASED
THROUGH AN APPROPRIATE COURT
ORDER. JOINING ME HERE TODAY HOW
ARE THEIR MICHAEL SPONSORS OF
THE BILL AND ALSO WITNESSES
BRADLEY MAKE CARD DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY WITH THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND ERIN
HARPER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH
THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTERS
A CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. WHAT OF
ALL THANK YOU SENATOR RUBIO SO
WE KNOW WE WILL NOW PROCEED WITH
OUR LEAD WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
SB SIX AT THREE. WHEN YOU'RE
READY GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
BRADLEY MCCARTY I'M A LOS
ANGELES COUNTY DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY. OUR OFFICE IS THE
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB SIX OH
THREE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY
BACKGROUND I'VE BEEN A
PROSECUTOR FOR TWENTY EIGHT
YEARS. MOST OF MY TIME IN THE
OFFICE HAS BEEN AS A CHILD ABUSE
AND CHILD SEXUAL ASSAULT THE
PROSECUTOR I'VE TESTIFIED IN
FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE MANY
TIMES IN THAT CAPACITY.
CURRENTLY I AM THE DEPUTY IN
CHARGE OF STUART HOUSE IT IS A
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER OUT
OF THE RAPE TREATMENT CENTER IN
LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA. AT THE
CENTER I DEAL WITH. CHILDREN WHO
HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED.
ALL DAY LONG AS PART OF A MULTI
DISCIPLINARY TEAM INCLUDING LAW
ENFORCEMENT. CHILD PROTECTIVE
SERVICES FORENSIC INTERVIEWERS
AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. WHEN A
CHILD COMES IN. TO TALK ABOUT
HAVING BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED.
IT IS ONE OF THE MOST DRAMATIC
EXPERIENCES NEXT THAT SEXUAL
ASSAULT THAT THEY CAN HAVE. AT
C. A. SIS WE TRY TO MAKE THAT
THE BEST EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE.
PART OF DOING THAT IS ENSURING
THAT. THEIR PRIVACY IS
PROTECTED. THAT INTIMATE AND
VULNERABLE MOMENT OF TALKING
ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM.
IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE
PROTECTED. WHEN THE CHILD COMES
INTO THE ROOM AND I'VE
INTERVIEWED OVER FOUR HUNDRED
AND FIFTY CHILDREN AS A FORENSIC
INTERVIEWER MYSELF. THE LOOK ON
THEIR FACE WHEN YOU TELL THEM
THAT THERE IS IN FACT A CAMERA
IN THE ROOM AND THAT WHAT
THEY'RE GOING TO SAY IS BEING
RECORDED. IS A REALLY DIFFICULT
MOMENT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
ASSURE THEM THAT WHAT THEY'RE
SAYING WILL ONLY BE USED AS
NECESSARY. THIS BILL DOES NOT
CHANGE THE DISCOVERY PROCESS
ACCESS TO THE INTERVIEW IN ANY
CRIMINAL OR CIVIL OR ANY OTHER
TYPE OF LEGAL PROCEEDINGS. NONE
WHATSOEVER IT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY
YOUR RIGHT TO ACCESS THAT
CURRENTLY EXISTS. IT SIMPLY
GIVES US A GUIDELINE. AND EIGHT
BEST PRACTICE FOR ALL FIFTY
EIGHT COUNTIES AND FOR ALL OF
THE NUMEROUS CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
CENTERS IN CALIFORNIA.
DISCLOSURE OF SEXUAL ABUSE IS
ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES TO
BEING ABLE TO INVESTIGATE AND
PROSECUTE THOSE THAT
PERPETRATED. EVEN WHEN WE INFORM
THE PARENTS WHEN THEY'RE
CONSENTING TO THE INTERVIEW.
THEY ALL INITIALLY ASK WHO IS
GOING TO GET TO SEE MY CHILD
TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO
THEM. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE
THEM ASSURANCES THAT WE ARE
FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES ACROSS
THE BOARD WE HAVE HAD INCIDENTS
IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY WITH THESE
VIDEOS BEING COPIED BY
DEFENDANTS. SPOUSES OF
DEFENDANTS AND EVEN BEING
BROADCAST ON SOCIAL MEDIA
INCLUDING INSTAGRAM. THIS BILL
IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO STOP
THE RE VICTIMIZATION OF CHILDREN
WHO HAVE BEEN PHYSICALLY AND
SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND THEREFORE
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT AND I VOTE FOR A BILL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
ERIN HARPER I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
CENTERS OF CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CALICO
CENTER WHICH IS THE CHILDREN'S
ADVOCACY CENTER FOR ALAMEDA
COUNTY. C. A. C. C. REPRESENTS
THE FIFTY CECE'S SERVING
CALIFORNIA ALL FIFTY OF OUR
MEMBERS URGE SUPPORT AND PASSAGE
OF THIS BILL. THERE IS NOT ONE
OF OUR FIFTY MEMBERS THAT
PROVIDES- THE RELEASE OF THESE
INTERVIEWS WITHOUT A COURT ORDER
IN FACT TO DO SO WOULD BE IN
CONTRAVENTION OF BEST PRACTICES.
THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE ISSUES GUIDELINES ABOUT
THAT BEST PRACTICES FOR FORENSIC
INTERVIEWS WHICH EXPLICITLY
STATES THAT THE CONFIDENTIALITY
AND PRIVACY OF THESE INTERVIEWS
IN THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS AND
THE COURT PROCESS MUST BE
MAINTAINED. NATIONAL CHILDREN'S
ALLIANCE CREDITS CHILDREN'S
ADVOCACY CENTERS AND THEIR
ACCREDITATION STANDARDS ALSO
REQUIRE THE PROTECTION AND
CONFIDENTIALITY OF THESE
INTERVIEWS THIS IS IN
RECOGNITION OF AS MR MCCARTY
SAID THE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE
NATURE OF WHAT THE CHILDREN ARE
DISCUSSING. WE ARE RECORDING
THESE CHILDREN STATEMENTS IN
EXQUISITE DETAIL ABOUT THEIR
ABUSE WE ARE ASKING THEM TO
RECOUNTS BODY POSITIONS
SENSATIONS. TASTES SMELLS AND
EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCES THESE ARE
EXTREMELY PRIVATE AND SENSITIVE
PIECES OF EVIDENCE. WITHOUT THIS
BILL WE ARE AS A STATE HAVING
ENGAGE ENGAGING IN PEACEFUL WAYS
TO PROTECT THESE TAPES FOR
EXAMPLE IN ALAMEDA COUNTY MY
CENTER RETAINS AN ATTORNEY TO
OBJECT TO REQUESTS. FOR
RELEASING THESE TAPES OUTSIDE OF
THE CRIMINAL INDEPENDENCY
PROCESS SEES AND REQUEST A COURT
ORDER WITH PROTECTIVE ORDERS IN
PLACE HOWEVER WE'RE FORTUNATE TO
HAVE THOSE RESOURCES WHEN THIS
PIECEMEAL SYSTEM FAILS WE HAVE
HEARD FROM OUR CENTERS. AND
INSTANCES WHERE THESE TAPES HAVE
BEEN PLAYED ON LOCAL AND EVEN
NATIONAL NEWS SHOWS WHERE
THEY'VE BEEN UPLOADED TO
YOUTUBE. WHERE THE BENEFITS
GIVEN TO PERPETRATORS BEFORE THE
INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED
UNDERMINING THE ABILITY TO MAKE
DECISIONS TO KEEP THAT CHILD
SAFE. AND EVEN PLAYED FOR OTHER
EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS SO THAT
THEY WERE ABLE TO APPLY PRESSURE
A MOTION ONLY TO THE CHILD TO
RECOUNT THEIR ACCOUNTS. THESE
ARE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE PIECES
OF INFORMATION. THIS BILL WILL
CREATE PROTECTIONS FOR THEM NOT
SO THAT THEY CAN NEVER BE
RELEASED BUT SO THAT THERE ARE
SOME SAFEGUARD IN PLACE SO THAT
A JUDGE IS DECIDING WHETHER THE
TAPE SHOULD BE RELEASED AND IF
THE REQUESTING PARTY IS THE
APPROPRIATE PARTY. AND ENSURING
THAT ALL- PROTECTIVE MEASURES
ARE IN PLACE WHEN AND IF THE
TAPE IS RELEASED. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILL
NOT CONTINUE WITH WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF SB SIX OH THREE HERE
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
NATASHA MINSKER BEFORE THE
PROSECUTOR'S ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. SORTER
BIRDIE OKAY THAT LOS ANGELES
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON
BEHALF OF SHERIFF ROBERT WITH A
SPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THREE OF ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF SB SIX OH THREE
HEARING ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED.
C. NINE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES- WITH LEAD WHICH COULD
. LEAVE THE OPPOSITION WITNESSES
HERE IN ROOM- TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION. WE UP
THANK THE COMMITTEE AND THE
AUTHOR FOR THE AMENDMENTS WE DO
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON THE
BILL WITH THE AUTHOR. HOWEVER WE
DO HAVE TO REMAIN OPPOSED AT
THIS TIME. RIGHT NOW OKAY. RIGHT
NOW. OKAY CENTER RUBIO I'M- I'M
- I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU
HAVE AGREED TO TAKE THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUGGESTED
BY THE COMMITTEE. YES I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS THANK YOU OKAY
PERFECT THANK YOU- DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX OH THREE
HERE ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. C.
NINE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX OH THREE
YEAH THE TELECONFERENCE A
SERVICE AND AS A REMINDER TO ALL
OUR WITNESSES WAITING IN QUEUE
TO TESTIFY THIS AFTERNOON WE ASK
YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
POSITION. AND THE ORGANIZATION
THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING AS WE
MOVE FORWARD- MISTER MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE QUEUE UP THE
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX OF THREE WE
WILL BEGIN. IF YOU MADAM CHAIR
AS SHE STATED IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SENATE
BILL SIX ZERO THREE PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO. ONE FIVE EIGHT ZERO.
WE HAVE NO PARTICIPANTS QUEUING
UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER
MODERATOR- WILL BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO THE DYESS FOR
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS SENATOR
WIENER I THANK YOU I JUST
CONFIRMING EUROPE YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
OPPONENTS THAT'S CORRECT. A DOES
A LOT TO A GROUP OF GOOD IN THIS
BILL AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S
JUST PROBABLY. SOME STRUCK ME AS
A KIND OF BILL THAT CAN
DEFINITELY BE- LANDED AND SO I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL. THANK
YOU EARLIER ANY OTHER COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS BY- MEMBERS SEEN
NONE- SENATOR WE WHICH LIKE TO
CLOSE. YES THANK YOU M. AS
ALREADY STATED BY THE WITNESSES
THIS IS VERY SENSITIVE
INFORMATION. IN PARTICULAR GOES
INTO DETAILS AS MENTIONED YOU
KNOW POSITIONS FEELINGS AND-
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD
REMAIN PRIVATE AND FULLY COULD
TRAUMATIZE A CHILD LATER ON IN
LIFE AND- YOU KNOW THE FACT THAT
SOME OF THESE ITEMS CAN END UP
ON SOCIAL MEDIA DOES CONSIDER
THE CHILD'S ALREADY TRAUMATIZED
WE DON'T WANT TO RE TRAUMATIZED
SO WITH THAT I ASK FOR YOUR
RIVAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SENATOR- RUBIO FOR BEING THIS
MEASURE FORWARD APPRECIATE- THE
THOUGHT BEHIND IT QUITE FRANKLY
I'M- NOT A SIGNATURE YOU WOULD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SB SIX OH
THREE MOTIONS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THE FLOOR SENATOR WILL HOP. A
SHOW ABOUT I FEEL THAT I
BRADFORD. SKINNER SKINNER WIENER
WIENER AYE. WE'LL KEEP THIS-
FELL ON CALL FOR APPS MEMBERS
VERY MUCH. IF YOU. WE WILL
CONTINUE WITH FILE ITEM NUMBER
SIXTEEN SB. SIX NINETY. WHEN
YOU'RE READY CENTER VIA. THANK
YOU. I'M AT THANK YOU AGAIN VICE
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
TODAY I'M PROUD TO PRESENT SB
SIX NINETY WHICH BUILDS OFF THE
WORK PREVIOUSLY CHAMPIONED BY
ME. ON BEHALF OF SURVIVORS OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- THIS. WILL
GIVE VICTIMS ADICIONAL TIME MUCH
NEEDED TIME TO HEAL FROM THEIR
TRAUMA BEFORE REPORTING DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. THIS BILL EXTENDS THE
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS TO
FIFTEEN YEARS BUT AS PREVIOUSLY
DISCUSSED I'D- OPEN TO CONTINUE
TO WORK ON ON THIS BILL. ARE
THIS BILL IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT AS IT TAKES AN AVERAGE
OF EIGHT TO TEN YEARS FOR
VICTIMS TO FEEL. UNCOMFORTABLE
AND OFTENTIMES THEY DON'T COME
FORWARD AT ALL AFTER THEY'VE
EXPERIENCED TRAUMA ABUSE BY
THEIR INTIMATE PARTNERS MEMBERS
OUT DATA SHOWS THAT MULTIPLE
REASONS WHY MATT BOB VICTIMS
DON'T COME FORWARD. WHICH IS
VERY DIFFICULT UNLESS YOU'RE IN
THAT SITUATION- VICTIMS ARE ARE
USUALLY. STUCK IN RELATIONSHIPS
WHERE THEY FEEL TRAPPED IN THIS
IS AN ONGOING TRAUMA NOT JUST OF
ONE INCIDENT BUT SOMETIMES
VICTIMS ARE AND CHOPPED IN THESE
RELATIONSHIPS FOR YEARS SO IT
TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THEM TO
HILL GATHER THEIR COURAGE EVEN
KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING ABUSED
UNTIL THIS BILL WILL HELP THOSE
VICTIMS THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT
MORE TIME. AND MANY VICTIMS COME
TO THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS WHEN
THEY'RE READY THAT MEANS
SOMETIMES OUR CHILDREN INVOLVED
AND THEY HAVE TO CONTEND WITH
THE FACT THAT THEIR CHILDREN
MIGHT BE IN DANGER. THEY MIGHT
BE IN DANGER OR THEIR EXTENDED
FAMILY MIGHT BE IN DANGER.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A HORRIBLE
CRIME THAT INFLICTS A HEAVY TOLL
ON THE VICTIMS AND THOSE WHO
LOVE THEM. WHEN IT COMES TO
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THE STATISTICS
ARE GRAHAM. IN AMERICA AN
AVERAGE OF FIFTY WOMEN ARE SHOT
TO DEATH BY THEIR INTIMATE
PARTNERS EVERY MONTH. AND MANY
ARE INJURED. WHY VICTIM. BEING
TIED UP. CHOKED TORTURED. WITH
AND ZAP WITH THE SHOCKING
DEVICE. SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH
POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER.
AND THIS PARTICULAR VICTIM TOOK
FOR TEN YEARS TO COME FORWARD.
BUT ONLY AFTER SHE LEARNED THAT
HER ABUSER WAS ALREADY ABUSING
SOMEONE ELSE SHE DID NOT WANT
THE PAIN SHE ENDURED. TO BE
INFLICTED ON ANOTHER VICTIM. SHE
CAME FOR WITH THE VIDEO. SHE HAD
AUDIO RECORDINGS FORDER GRABS.
EVERYTHING YOU COULD'VE WANTED.
FOR A CASE TO BE CLOSED. BUT DUE
TO THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS
SHE WAS NOT ALLOWED. TO SEEK
JUSTICE THE STATUE LIMITATIONS
PROHIBIT HER FROM EVEN
PRESENTING THE EVIDENCE.
UNFORTUNATELY IN RECENT YEARS WE
HAVE BEEN AS THE ESCALATION OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES THAT
RESULT IN DEATH INCLUDING THOSE
ATTEMPTING TO PROTECT VICTIMS.
TRAGICALLY WE EXPERIENCED THE
DEATH OF TARA O'SULLIVAN A YOUNG
POLICE OFFICER HERE IN
SACRAMENTO COUNTY WHO IS
ANSWERING A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
CALL A FEW YEARS BACK. LAST YEAR
IN MY DISTRICT TWO YOUNG POLICE
OFFICERS WERE SHOT IN THE HEAD.
AS THEY ATTEMPTED TO STOP AN
ABUSER FROM KILLING HIS WIFE. WE
MUST CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR
VICTIMS AND ALLOW THEM ENOUGH
TIME TO COME FORWARD AND THIS IS
THE HEART OF THE BILL. VICTIMS
NEVER KNOW IF THE ABUSE WILL
ESCALATE TO MURDER EVEN AFTER
THE RELATIONSHIP HAS ENDED IN
FACT SOMETIMES IT'S EVEN MORE
DANGEROUS AT THAT TIME. SO
TODAY- UNFORTUNATELY- BECAUSE OF
HOW LONG THE COMMITTEE WHEN ON-
MIKE UP WITNESSES HAD TO LEAVE
BUT- IF YOU ALLOW ME I HAVE A
SOMEONE THAT WILL BE READING A
STATEMENT FROM SHEA FRANKEL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR- RUBIO. WE WILL NOW
CONTINUE WITH THEIR THE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB SIX
NINETY PLEASE PROCEED WHEN
YOU'RE READY. HELLO MY NAME IS
JOCELYN CABRERA ON BEHALF OF
SHAPE FRANKEL CLAWSON WHO IS A
SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I
WANT TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR
SB SIX NINETY. THIS IS CHASE
STORY. UNLIKE SOME OF THE PEOPLE
YOU MAY HEAR FROM TODAY ON ANY
OTHER DAY. I DIDN'T HAVE JUST
ONE ABUSER I HAD SEVERAL. THE
THING ABOUT ABUSE IS THAT I HAD
BEEN CONDITIONED TO BE A
RECIPIENT OF THIS TREATMENT
SINCE THE YOUNG AGE OF NINE.
HOWEVER I MAINTAIN THAT ROLE IN
A MULTI MULTITUDE OF
RELATIONSHIPS THROUGHOUT MY
LIFE. AND THE MAIN REASON WAS I
DID NOT KNOW I WAS A VICTIM OF
ABUSE AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING WAS
A CRIME. I HAD BEEN GROOMED AND
NORMALIZE THE IDEA THAT THIS IS
HOW RELATIONSHIPS WORK. THIS
STANDARD HAS BEEN DEVELOPED
DURING THE CHILDHOOD INTO MY
ADULTHOOD AND IS A FACT ABOUT
MYSELF THEY GAVE ME TWENTY SEVEN
YEARS OF SHAME. SELF BLAME AND
SOMETHING I AM NOT PROUD OF. IT
TAKES TIME TO LEAVE IT TAKES
TIME TO REHABILITATE IT TAKES
TIME TO RE PRIORITIZE YOURSELF.
AND IT TAKES EVEN MORE TIME TO
RECOUNT THE ABUSE AND THEN
GATHER THE STRENGTH TO REPORT
REPORT THAT ABUSE. ESPECIALLY
KNOWING THE POTENTIAL PERSON
THAT YOU ONCE FEARED MAYBE
STANDING IN A CORNER ACROSS THE
ROOM. FROM YOU WHEN YOU DO
CHOOSE TO STAND UP. THE UGLIEST
TRUTH IF I HAD MULTIPLE OF USERS
AND IT TOOK TIME TO PROCESS AND
UNDERSTAND HOW THE MULTIPLE
INJURIES THAT I KNEW SO WELL.
WOULD EASILY QUALIFY AS FELONY
DON'T THE FELONY OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. BUT THAT KNOWLEDGE
TAKES TIME AND THAT IS ALL THIS
BILL IS ASKING FOR TIME.
SURVIVORS EXPERIENCE AND FOUND
THE MOBILE OBSTACLES IT TAKES TO
DO. IT IT DOES TAKE STRENGTH AND
SUPPORT TO STAND UP AGAINST
THOSE WHO INFLICT VIOLENCE. BUT
TO BE ABLE TO MUSTER THAT
RESISTANT TAKES TIME. I STAND
HERE TODAY TO COMPULSIVE POOR
FOR SB SIX NINETY BECAUSE I AM A
SURVIVOR OF VIOLENCE AND AN
ADVOCATE FOR SO MANY WOMEN. AND
MEN LIKE ME WHO NEED MORE THAN
THREE OR FIVE YEARS TO SPEAK UP.
IDENTIFIED AS A PERSON THAT
WOULD HAVE BENEFITTED FROM SB
TWO THREE SEVEN AND NOW SB SIX
NINETY. IT TOOK ME FIFTEEN YEARS
TO KNOW I WAS IN AN ABUSIVE
RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE I WAS
UNABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE SITE
CYCLE OF ABUSE UNTIL I WAS IN A
HEALTHY ONE. I YOU CAN SUPPORT
SB SIX NINETY BECAUSE A YES
VOTE. IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS
AND ALLOWING THEM MORE TIME TO
STAND UP TO THEIR ABUSERS. THANK
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SEE NO
OTHER LEAD WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF SB SIX NINETY WILL NOW
CONTINUE TO WITNESS IN SUPPORT
OF. SB SIX NINETY HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE
WILL NOW CONTINUE TO WITNESSES-
IN OPPOSITION TO SB SIX NINETY
LEAD- OPPOSITION WITNESSES. GOOD
AFTERNOON. LESLIE CALDWELL
HOUSTON ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN THE SAN FRANCISCO
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. THE
EXTENSION OF THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS FOR MISDEMEANOR AND
FELONY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WAS
JUST BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE
LEGISLATE TORS. IN TWENTY
NINETEEN S. S. B. TWO SEVEN
THREE. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED IN
THE INTERVENING THE INTERVENING
THREE AND A HALF YEARS. TO
JUSTIFY OR WARRANT UPSETTING THE
CAREFUL BALANCING OF INTERESTS
RECENTLY DONE BY THE LEGISLATURE
IN TWENTY NINETEEN. THREE
PRINCIPLE POLICY REASONS FOR
FELONY STATUTES OF LIMITATIONS
INCLUDE STALEMATE THIS. PROMPT
INVESTIGATION AND REPOSE. THESE
REASONS DATE BACK TO COLONIAL
TIMES THE U. S. SUPREME COURT
HAS HELD THAT THE STATUE
LIMITATIONS ARE THE PRIMARY
GUARANTEE AGAINST BRINGING
OVERLY STALE CRIMINAL CHARGES
AND THIS HAS BEEN UNDERSCORED IN
THE TWO THOUSAND THREE US
SUPREME COURT DECISIONS DOG
NERVY CALIFORNIA. CALIFORNIA
COURTS HAVE NOTED THE SAME
REGARDING STILL MISS THE PASSAGE
OF TIME LEADS TO FADING MEMORIES
THE DEATHS OF WITNESSES LOSS OR
DISCUSS OF OR DESTRUCTION OF
BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE STATUES A
LIMITATION SERVICE PURPOSE OF
ENCOURAGING SWIFT INVESTIGATIONS
AND PROSECUTIONS AND REFLECTS
SOCIETY'S LACK OF DESIRE TO
PROSECUTE CRIMES. ALLEGED TO
HAVE OCCURRED IN THE DISTANT
PAST BOTH DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL RESEARCHERS HAVE
FOUND THAT COMMUNITY BASED
EDUCATION PROGRAMS WORK OUR
RESOURCES SHOULD BE USED FOR
EVIDENCE BASED PROGRAMS THAT
HAVE BEEN PROVEN EFFECTIVE A
REDUCING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
RATHER THAN IMPRISONING MORE
PEOPLE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU MA'AM.
WE HAVE ANY OTHER YES WE DO.
HAVE C. PACK AFTER HIM MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS GLASSER HERNANDEZ
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TERMS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE. THEY
SOCIOLOGICAL OFFENSE LAWYERS
WERE ALSO IN OPPOSITION- AND I
DON'T THINK THE AUTHOR YOU KNOW
TAKING ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER
IT'S REALLY FOR THE REASONS
ALREADY STATED BY CPD ABLE LET
ME JUST ADD A COUPLE OF OTHER
THINGS ONE IS WHENEVER WE
EXAMINE PROPOSALS TO EXTEND
STATURE LIMITATIONS- WE LOOK AT
THE AT THE WHOLE RANGE OF TYPES
OF CASES EARLIER HEARD ABOUT A
VERY SERIOUS CASE IN WHICH THERE
WAS. EVIDENCE VIDEO EVIDENCE
FROM THE TIME OF THE INTO AT OR
NEAR THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT-
THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE THING THAT
WE DO LOOK AT THE PROPOSALS AND
I KNOW THAT IN PRIOR YEARS WHEN
I'VE APPEARED BEFORE THE
LEGISLATURE WHEN SOME OF THESE-
STATUE LIMITATIONS HAVE BEEN
PASSED. IT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED
WHERE THERE HAS TO BE A
REQUIREMENT THAT THERE'S SOME
EITHER CORROBORATING EVIDENCE
THERE'S DNA EVIDENCE HAS
RECENTLY BEEN DISCOVERED AND
IDENTIFIED SOMETHING THAT GOES
ALONG WITH ON THE EXTENSION OF
THIS BILL DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT-
WHICH MEANS THAT WE WILL HAVE
CASES UNDER THIS BILL IF IT
PASSES. WHERE IT'S SIMPLY A LONG
TIME NO CORROBORATING EVIDENCE
AND IT'S REALLY. IN CERTAIN THE
SUBSET OF CASES WOULD BE ONE
PERSON'S WORD VERSUS ANOTHER
PERSON'S WORK AND THAT'S- ONE OF
THE PROBLEMS IF YOU HEARD AWAY
FROM CPA. ABOUT EXTENDING OUT
THE STATUE LIMITATIONS FOR THOSE
REASONS AND OTHERS. WE. OPPOSED
TO THE BILL. THANK YOU SIR. DO
YOU HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESS. IN
OPPOSITE TO S. SIX. HEARING ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE
WILL NOW. MOVE ON TO OUR
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE OR MRS BOTH
IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO SB
SIX NINETY. AND JUST AS A
REMINDER WE WOULD LIKE TO. NOTE
THAT AT THIS TIME THE WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY THAT THE
TELECONFERENCE SHOULD DO SO BY
STATING THEIR NAME. THEIR
POSITION. AND THAT THE
ORGANIZATION WHICH THEY ARE
REPRESENTING- AND WITH THAT
MISTER MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT THE- OUT WITNESSES
TO BEGIN. THANK YOU MEDICARE IF
YOU ARE A SUPPORTER IN
OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL SIX
NINETY PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT
THIS TIME ONE FILED BY ZERO. AND
WE HAVE NO PARTICIPANTS QUEUING
UP AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU MR
MODERATOR- WITH THAT- SAID WE
WILL NOT BRING IT BACK TO OUR
DIETS FOR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS
. SCENE. AND THERE SKINNER.
THE ISSUE OF STATUE OF
LIMITATIONS IS I APPRECIATE.
THE- WHY WE HAVE. ONE THIS SET
THE EXPRESSION SAY BY A PUBLIC
DEFENDER SO THEY'RE NOT ALONE IN
THIS VIEW THAT. THAT HAVING
INAPPROPRIATE STATUE
LIMITATIONS- NOPE CREATES THE
CONTEXT WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE
PROSECUTING PEOPLE FOR SOMETHING
THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN
THE WAY THAT. THE- VICTIM OR THE
PERSON WHO IS- BRING IT FORWARD
AT THE POINT MANY YEARS LATER
YOU KNOW CHARACTERIZES. I SO I
APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFICULTIES TO EXTENDING THE
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. HOWEVER
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE NATURE
OF THE KIND OF VICTIMIZATION NOT
THAT ALL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A
- GENDER BASED MEANING OF THE
WORDS THAT THE MAN. ON BEING THE
PERPETRATOR TWO ONE FIVE. GIVEN
THE POWER DYNAMICS IN BOOK JUST
IN OUR SOCIETY GENERALLY STILL.
AND THE- D. VICTIMS IN THESE
CASES. ARE VERY OFTEN. THEIR
SELF ESTEEM THEY'RE VERY ABILITY
TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT THEIR
TREATMENT IS MESSED VIOLENCE.
IT'S WHY IT'S UNDER REPORTED IS
. IT'S VERY COMMON THAT IN
EFFECT THE ABUSER WILL. YOU KNOW
EITHER THE PERSON. THE VICTIM
MARTY HAS. THIS USE THAT OF
CONTRIBUTE TO LOW SELF ESTEEM
AND SUCH BUT THE EXPERIENCE OF
THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CAN CREATE. ON
SUCH CONDITION THAT THE PERSON
IS SO CURATED AND BELITTLED THAT
THE THEY DON'T HAVE THE
CONFIDENCE OF THE SELF ESTEEM TO
RECOGNIZE THAT- VICTIMIZATION.
AND WE KNOW THIS IS ALSO TRUE IN
SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS AND
ESPECIALLY SEXUAL ASSAULT
VICTIMS WHO WENT WHO WERE MINORS
THAT THE PERPETRATORS OF SUCH
CRIMES LOOK FOR- CHILDREN THAT
ARE VULNERABLE THAT WAY AND THAT
THEY CAN- GROOMER CONVINCES-
EITHER THE PERSON'S FALTER THE
DISTANCE. ANYWAY SO THERE'S MANY
REASONS WHY A PERSON BERRIES
THESE EXPERIENCES AND IT'S NOT
UNTIL A CERTAIN TIME WHERE
SOMETHING TRIGGERS AND THEY CAN
FINALLY WHETHER IT'S THROUGH
THERAPY RATHER AT THROUGH MEANS
. RECOGNIZED THEIR VICTIMIZATION
. SO OF COURSE THE DEBATE IS
WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER
OF YEARS. AND YOU KNOW I THINK
THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT-
DETERMINATION TO MAKE BUT I DO
KNOW THAT THE ABILITY TO
ACTUALLY GET A CONVICTION
REQUIRES PRETTY HIGH STANDARDS
AND SO EVEN WITH LIFTING A
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. THERE
WOULD THERE IS LESS. CONCERN
FOR. THAT FIVE. YOU KNOW.
ACTIONS ELECTED THERE'S LESS. IT
WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR A
PERSON COMPLETELY INNOCENT OF
THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BE
CONVICTED BECAUSE THE THERE
WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME REAL-
THERE'D HAVE TO BE EVIDENCE
THERE'D HAVE TO BE THIRD HAVE TO
MEET A CERTAIN STANDARD FOR THE
CONVICTION SO. ON I. I WAS
COMFORTABLE WITH THE TEN YEARS I
REALIZE THAT OUR- AUTHOR IS
ASKING US TO GO WITH FIFTEEN
YEARS. I WISH THE CHAIR WERE
HERE SO I CAN GET SOME GUIDANCE
AND HERE BUT I. I THINK THAT-
THESE ARE THE KIND OF
CIRCUMSTANCES. BOTH DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT AND
SEXUAL KERN. SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT
WE'RE PERHAPS THE CIRCUMSTANCES
ARE SUCH. THAT IT COULD WARRANT
A LONGER PERIOD OF STATUE OF
LIMITATIONS. THANK YOU SENATOR
SKINNER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. OKAY SO- M. MY
THOUGHT PROCESS AND I JUST WANT
FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. AS
IT PERTAINS TO MINORS THIS IS
WHERE I AM I'M QUE. VALIUM I
THOUGHT PROCESSES- IF WE WERE
TEXANA TO FIFTEEN YEARS THAT
MEANS THAT A CHILD. THAT WAS
THREE YEARS OLD WOULD BE OF AGE.
IS THAT CORRECT WHICH IS THE IS
THERE A DIFFERENT IS THERE A
DIFFERENT- QUALIFIER FOR
CHILDREN AND THE STATUE OF
LIMITATIONS AS TO WHEN THEY COME
OF AGE AND THE ARE ABLE OR
WILLING. ARE HOW THE MAJORITY TO
ACTUALLY TESTIFY AGAINST HER
PERPETRATORS THIS IS NOT FOR
CHILDREN THIS IS FOR VICTIMS OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ONLY SO THIS
IS ADULT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE TO BE ABLE TO SEEK
JUSTICE YES GOT IT OKAY SO NOT
NOT AT ALL WITH CHILDREN NOW.
SORRY MATE LET ME JUST CLARIFY I
ROSE I RAISED THAT ANALOGY
BECAUSE I'VE WORKED ON BILLS
THAT. CHANGE THE STATUE OF
LIMITATIONS FOR CHILDREN OUR
CHILDREN YES AND WILL ALSO ALSO
FOR SEXUAL ALL SEXUAL ASSAULT
VICTIMS SO WITH THE CHILDREN HOW
DOES THAT WORK WITH THIS. IS
THAT. WELL I MEAN WE DID WITH
THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED EVEN THE
NUMBER OF YEARS AROUND RATE-
SOMETIME AGO I CAN'T REMEMBER
EXACTLY WHAT THE STATUE
LIMITATIONS CHAIN WHAT CHANGE
WAS BUT- WE'VE MADE SOME
MODIFICATIONS FOR. CHILD ABUSE
SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS OF
MINORS BUT THAT'S A MEDIAN
ALLERGY- STREAMING OKAY PERFECT
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION
BECAUSE I WAS THINKING. OKAY HOW
DOES THIS PERTAIN TO OUR
CHILDREN AND THEIR ABILITY TO
GIVE AGING BE ABLE TO. TO AND SO
JUST TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE RETIRED
ABOUT IN ON CHILDREN. IT WAS
JUST LIKE SHE SAID STATED AN
ANALOGY THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH CHILDREN UNLESS YOU KNOW
THEY ARE OLDER AND THE THIRD
CALL TO TESTIFY AGAINST
SOMETHING THEY WITNESS BUT THIS
HASN'T IT TO DO IT CHILDREN THIS
IS ABOUT- INTIMATE PARTNER
VIOLENCE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. EVENTUALLY COMING
FORWARD. AND SEEKING JUSTICE
BASED ON EVIDENCE OKAY THE
SENATOR WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
THE CONCERN AND PERHAPS YOU KNOW
WHY FIFTEEN. YEARS IF THERE'S
ANY DATA RESEARCH THAT- THAT YOU
CAN- PUT FORTH THAT WE HAVE.
PERHAPS THE MINDSET OR THE
HEALING PROCESS THE COUNSELING-
WE'VE SEEN WITH VICTIMS OF.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL-
ACTUALLY. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT
YOU WOULD LIKE TO. ADDRESS TO
JUSTIFY THE FIFTEEN YEARS.
ABSOLUTELY AND I'VE PHAM SET OUT
TO INTERVIEW ALL AND I HAVE
HUNDREDS OF VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE PERSONALLY MYSELF. AND
WHEN I SPOKEN TO. A SOME OF THE
VICTIMS LIKE IT AND IN
PARTICULAR I STATED THERE WAS
ONE VICTIM THAT WAS- TRAUMATIZED
AND MANY ARE DIAGNOSED WITH
POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS SO THEY'RE
NOT ABLE TO COME FORWARD THEY'RE
FEARFUL. ON AND SO WHEN WE DID
THE ANALYSIS OF SOME OF THE
VICTIMS THAT WE- TALKED ABOUT IN
ALSO BASED ON SOME OF- THERAPIST
AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS I TRY TO
HELP ON THE AVERAGE. TIME IS
EIGHT TO TEN YEARS- THAT'S JUST
THE AVERAGE I SPOKE INTO ONE
PARTICULAR WOMAN SAID THAT SAID
SHE WAS MADE FOR EIGHTEEN YEARS.
AND SHE JUST WAS NOT ABLE TO A
YOU KNOW- BREAKAWAY UNTIL HER
HUSBAND DIED SO THIS IS YOU KNOW
I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS
IS NOT LIKE A ONE DAY ASSAULT OR
SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN ONE
DAY. THESE ARE VICTIMS THAT ARE
ENTRAPPED IN THIS RELATIONSHIP
SO IT'S PSYCHOLOGICAL OF COURSE
OF CONTROL IF YOU WILL OUT THE
OR ALMOST A KIDNAP IN A WAY
WHERE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SEEK
HELP INSTILL THIS TAKES A LOT
EIGHT YEARS TOOT TO OVERCOME A
LOT OF YEARS TO EVEN. YOU KNOW
BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE
YOUR VOICE IN A LOT OF THEM GO
THROUGH A LOT OF THERAPY CELL
BASED ON MY COMP PERSONAL
CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH VICTIMS.
YOU KNOW I WILL SHARE I'M A
SURVIVOR MYSELF AND- IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT YOU EASILY GET-
FOR- AND I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE I
THINK I HEARD YOU KNOW IT'S
GONNA BE ONE. PERSON'S WORD
AGAINST THE OTHER I'M GONNA HAVE
TO DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY WITH
THAT IT IS NOT. IN OUR CASE WE
SHOW UP TO COURT YOU JUST SAY
YOU KNOW HE HE OR SHE ABUSED ME
IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE YOU HAVE TO
GO TO COURT LIKE ANY OTHER CASE
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR CASE IN
COURT. I AM IN PARTICULAR THAT
PART THE WOMAN HAD. SHE HAD
VIDEO SHE HAD AUDIO SHE HAD
EVERYTHING WE COULD'VE WISHED
FOR A PERFECT CASE. TO BE OUT TO
BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY. THE
STATURE OF THE- TO ALLOW. TO DO
THAT SO EVEN THOSE AT HAVE
CONCRETE EVIDENCE WERE NONE OF
US HERE WITH DISPUTED. THEY
DON'T HAVE THE OPTION TO MOVE
FORWARD AND SEEK JUSTICE
BECAUSE- THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. SO
LET ME REMIND ALSO THE COMMITTEE
THAT IN TWENTY SIXTEEN WE
PASSED. SB EIGHT ONE THREE BY
CONNIE LEYVA WHICH ELIMINATED
THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR
FELONY SEXUAL ASSAULT. INCLUDING
RAPE AND ABUSE OF A CHILD. SEOUL
THE STATUE WAS LIFTED COMPLETELY
AND DEFINITELY THERE IS NO
BARRIERS TO SOMEONE THAT GETS
ASSAULTED BY A STRANGER. BUT YET
WE HAVE THIS BARRIER. BECAUSE OR
INTIMATE PARTNERS. AND I WOULD
ARGUE THAT IT'S EASIER TO COME
FORWARD ABOUT A STRANGER
ASSAULTING YOU THAN SOMEONE THAT
YOU LOVE. THAT YOU CARE FOR.
THAT YOU WERE IN A RELATIONSHIP
FOR THREE TO FIVE TO TEN YEARS
IT IS MUCH HARDER THAT'S WHY IT
TAKES LONGER. AND THERE'S OTHER
CONSIDERATIONS FOR VICTIMS THAT
HAVE CHILDREN THIS IS NOT A
DECISION THAT THEY CAN MAKE.
EASILY AND SO IT TAKES TIME SO
THAT IS WHY. OF FIFTEEN YEARS IS
AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO IS BASED
ON ON- DATA THAT'S OUT THERE AND
I CAN. TRY AND GET YOU THAT
INFORMATION AS SOON AS I CAN.
BASED ON PERSONAL TESTIMONY OF
VICTIMS THAT I'VE INTERVIEWED.
BASED ON MY PERSONAL STORY I CAN
ASSURE YOU IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT IT'S- YOU KNOW THAT'S EASY
TO FORGET- AND FOR ANYONE THAT
THINGS THAT SOMEONE'S JUST
GONNA- GRATUITOUSLY MAY MAKE AN
ALLOCATION- HAVING GONE THROUGH
MY OWN. ODD TRIAL I CAN TELL
YOU. OR CASE RATHER THAT IT IS
TRAUMATIC IT IS PERSONAL IT IS
INVASIVE IT IS FINANCIALLY.
DRAINING SO I ASSURE YOU THAT NO
ONE WANTS TO ALLEGE JUST ON A
WHIM. IT IS A SERIOUS ABOUT AYE
WE ALLOW VICTIMS TO HEAL AND IT
IS. THE PROCESS OF HEALING IS
GETTING JUSTICE FOR WHAT WAS
DONE FOR YOU SELL. SO WITH THAT
WERE RESPECTFULLY ASKS. FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE. YEAH AND I PRESIDING
REALIZE YOU'RE- UP SORRY I
SHOULDN'T BUT- SO- WE PASSES OUT
OF CAN. AT INTO. NINETY AT TEN
YEARS. I EVEN GOT REDUCE OUR USE
EIGHT YEARS IN THE SUMMER PUBLIC
SAFETY AND FIVE YEARS OF
ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS I WON
BACK AND- REFRESH MY MEMORY ON
THE- THE TORTURED JOURNEY.
YOU'RE GOING NINETEEN BELT BUT I
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. A TEN YEAR
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS I AM I
I'M I'M NOT A FAN OF A FIFTEEN
EUROPEAN I THINK IT'S TOO LONG.
WITH THAT SAID I KNOW THAT YOU
HAVE A JOURNEY AHEAD- AND I
SUSPECT THAT THIS WILL GET. I
IMAGINE PROBABLY REDUCED IN THE
ASSEMBLY I'M GOING TO GAS. ON
BUT I IF THIS COSTS ALL SUPPORT
MOVING FORWARD TODAY TO GIVE YOU
THAT RUNAWAY AND ABILITY TO KEEP
WORKING ON IT- I REALLY. AREN'T
GOING TO BE VERY TROUBLED IF
THIS COMES BACK FROM ASSEMBLY.
AT ANYTHING MORE THAN TEN YEARS
AND SO I JUST WANT EXPRESS SUCH
UNITED SPOKEN ABOUT THIS A
LITTLE BIT I KNOW- YOU. KNOW YOU
CAN WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU AND
I UNDERSTAND YOUR- IN YES. I
WILL- COMMITTED TO SEEING IF WE
CAN GET TO THE TEN WHAT THE
ASSEMBLY OKAY THANK YOU OKAY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
SENATOR RUBIO WITH THAT WOULD
YOU LIKE TO OFFICIALLY DO YOUR
QUESTION STATEMENT. I THINK I'VE
EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS AND MY
WILLINGNESS TO. SEND A NOTE TO
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE BILL
AND- ON BEHALF OF ALL VICTIMS I
THINK THIS IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT TO. AT LEAST ALLOW
THEM TO COME FORWARD WHEN THE TO
HAVE CONCRETE EVIDENCE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR RUBIO AND
WITH THAT- THE MOTION BY SENATOR
WIENER MADAM SECRETARY IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THANK YOU MA'AM AND I'M HAPPY TO
MOVE IT SORRY SORRY I THOUGHT
THAT WAS THE MOST. SB SIX NINETY
THE MOTIONS DEEP TO A- BOB. A
JOB HI HOPE I BROWN. SKINNER I
WIENER. WIENER HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU WILL LEAVE THAT DEAL
ON CALL FOR ABSENT MEMBERS ARE
THANK YOU. RUBIO. ONE AND I
BELIEVE THE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM
FILE I NUMBER. S. B. EIGHT FIFTY
TWO. YES YOU CAN BE AGAIN. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE THANK YOU
MADAM VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE TODAY I'M
PRESENTING SP EIGHT FIFTY TO THE
PROTECT ACT. THIS IS A FAIRLY
STRAIGHTFORWARD- THIS BILL HAS
HAD TWO GOALS FIRST UP TO PUT AN
END TO CONCERNING TACTICS BUT-
BY FEDERAL AGENTS WHO FALSELY
IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS
CALIFORNIA PROBATION OFFICERS.
AND SECOND TO HELP CREATE TRUST
BETWEEN CALIFORNIA'S HIGHLY
TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT
PROFESSIONALS IN OUR COMMUNITY
WHICH- SOMETIMES IT'S SOME SO
NEEDED FOR PEOPLE TO TRUST THAT
THEY CAN COME FORWARD. LET ME
START BY SAYING THAT I HAVE DEEP
RESPECT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
IMPROVE- AND THEIR PROFESSION
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE PUTTING
THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE
INSTANCES WHERE SOME FAIL TO
MEET THE HIGH STANDARD ONE SUCH
INSTANCE IS A PROBATION RUSE
WHERE ICE AGENTS WILL PRETEND TO
BE PROFESSION OPERATION OFFICES
JUST TO TRICK PEOPLE INTO
COOPERATING AND THEN THEY GET
SEARCHED AND QUESTIONED. AND
THIS SIMPLY IS JUST SAYING THAT
NO ONE SHOULD IMPERSONATE EITHER
PROBATION OFFICER OR AN OFFICER.
THAT IS. NOT APPROPRIATE AND IT
IS EXTREMELY PERSONAL I MEAN AND
I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS MY STORY
BEING A FORMERLY UNDOCUMENTED
CHILD WHO WAS DEPORTED. AS A
CHILD IT IS EXTREMELY DRAMATIC
JUST THE ISSUE IN ITSELF AND IF
I COULD REMEMBER ANYTHING FROM
MY DEPORTATION IS THAT FEAR AND
ANXIETY AND JUST TERMINATE MY
FATHER'S FACE AND SO I JUST
THINK THAT. EMAIL DONE
APPROPRIATELY AS ONE THING BY TO
IMPERSONATE OFFICERS OR
PROBATION OFFICERS JUST. TO TO
SEARCH PEOPLE WHEN TORMENT
PEOPLE IT'S AN APPROPRIATE SO.
HOT TODAY- I JUST WANTED TO ASK
STEPHANIE PETIT S. STAFF
ATTORNEY FROM THE ACLU. TO
TESTIFY ON MY BEHALF IF THE
THAT'S OKAY WITH MADAM VICE
CHAIR. APPS SO RUBIO AND WILL
CONTINUE NOW WITH THEIR LEAD
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB.
EIGHT FIFTY TWO. SORRY I LOST MY
VOICE OVER THE WEEKEND SO YOU'LL
HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME- GOOD
AFTERNOON CHERNYKH COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MANY MISSED HEALTHY
PEDIA. STAFF ATTORNEY AT THE
ACLU OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON
BEHALF OF THE ACLU CALIFORNIA
ACTION. I'M HERE TODAY TO
DISCUSS THE IMPORTANCE OF SB
EIGHT FIFTY TWO. APPEL WHICH IF
PASSED WOULD MAKE CLEAR THAT
IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS
ENFORCEMENT AGENTS CANNOT
REPRESENT THEMSELVES AS
PROVISIONAL OFFICERS OR EXPLOIT
A PERSON'S PROVISION STATUS WHEN
CONDUCTING HOME ENFORCEMENT
OPERATIONS. IT IS A COMMON
PRACTICE FOR ICE AGENTS IN THE
COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES 10%
OFFICERS FROM OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN ORDER TO
COERCE PEOPLE INTO COOPERATING
WITH THEM UNDER FALSE PRETENSES.
ICE BECAUSE HE'S INTENTIONAL
MISREPRESENTATIONS RUSES WHEN
COMMON REYES THE EMPLOYEES A
PROBATION RUSE WHEN THEY
REPRESENT THEMSELVES AS
PROVISIONAL OFFICERS CLAIM THEY
ARE CONDUCTING A PROBATION CHECK
OR ASKED TO CONFIRM THAT A
PERSON IS ON PROBATION. AND
ASKED THEM TO EITHER STOP
OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME OR GRANT
OFFICERS CONTENT TO ENTER THEIR
HOME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON
PROBATION BELIEVE THEY HAVE NO
CHOICE BUT TO COMPLY WITH
OFFICERS IS REQUEST BECAUSE THE
TERMS OF HER PROBATION. REQUIRE
THEM TO PERMIT PROVISION
OFFICERS TAXES FOR HOMES AND
PERSONS. IN TWENTY TWENTY THE
ACLU OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
FILED KID FORCES ME TO WORK AS A
LAWSUIT CHALLENGING
IMPERSONATION TACTICS AND OTHER
UNLAWFUL PRACTICES DURING HOME
ARREST. THROUGH THE LITIGATION
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT IN THE LEFT
HAND HOW IT OUT IN THAT LIST AND
A LIST OF RESPONSES. THE LADY
I'D HAVE CONDUCTED AT LEAST
NINETEEN THOUSAND AT LARGE
ARRESTS FROM TWENTY FOURTEEN TO
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. A SIZEABLE
NUMBER OF THESE ARRIVED. A CROWD
RESIDENTS IT'S- I'M THROUGH OUR
LITIGATION ICE OFFICE AFTER
THEIR- OF PER. A PERSON STATUS
TAKING. WITH OFFICER. DURING WE
HAVE DOCUMENTED NUMEROUS
PROBATION RAISES INCLUDING ONE
CASE WHERE ICE OFFICERS ONE
EARLY MORNING KNOCKED ON HIS
HOME AND HE SHARED. THAT HE
SHARED WITH HIS SISTER AND HER
HUSBAND AND THEIR THREE YOUNG
CHILDREN. HEARSES IT'S A STROKE
IN THE DOOR FOR TWO OFFICERS WHO
IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS
PROBATION OFFICERS LOOKING FOR
HER BROTHER. SHE KNEW THAT HER
BROTHER WAS ON PROBATION AND
SUBJECT HOME INSPECTIONS SO SHE
WENT TO WAKE HIM UP. UNDER THE
ASSUMPTION THAT PROVISIONAL
OFFICERS WERE CONDUCTING A
ROUTINE HOME VISIT HE RETRIEVED
HIS IDEA AND WENT TO THE FRONT
OF THE HOUSE. THE OFFICERS WERE
WEARING PASSED OUT TO POLICE
AFTER PROVIDE AFTER HE PROVIDED
AS HE- WITHOUT STATING WHY ONE
OF THE OFFICERS PLACED HIM UNDER
ARREST. ONLY AFTER HE WAS
HANDCUFFED DID YOU LEARN THAT
THE OFFICERS WERE IMMIGRATION
OFFICERS. MANY INDIVIDUALS HAVE
BEEN SUBJECTED TO ICE
PROBATIONERS HIS HAVE EXPRESSED
ANGER AND BETRAYAL UPON LEARNING
THE OFFICERS TWO IDENTITIES.
REPORT THAT THEY AND THEIR
FAMILY MEMBERS NOW FEEL WARY OF
UNIFORMED OFFICERS. ARE USING
IMPERSONATION TACTICS ICE AGENTS
CAUSE PANIC IN THE COMMUNITY AND
SO DISTRUST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
ICE'S IMPERSONATION OF PROBATION
OFFICERS EXPLOITS AND UNDERMINES
THE TRUST CALIFORNIA'S LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT WORKS TO DEVELOP
WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES EVERY
DAY. TO PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC
SAFETY. I SOME PERSUADING LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT INCLUDING
PROBATION OFFICERS MAKES LOCAL
OFFICERS JOB MORE DIFFICULT BY
MAKING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. FEAR
APPROACHING I AM COOPERATING
WITH POLICE. I SAYS USE A
PROVISION RECESSES BASED IN PART
ON THERE EXPLOITING AN AMBIGUITY
IN CALIFORNIA LAW. CURRENT
CALIFORNIA LAW TO FIND A PEACE
OFFICER NOT TO INCLUDE ICE AT
SOME PROBATION TERMS REFER TO
SEARCHES BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
RATHER THAN PEACE OFFICER. SB A
. FIFTY TWO WILL ELIMINATE THIS
LOOPHOLE BY MAKING CLEAR ICE
OFFICE HAVE NO FORTY TO ENTER.
FOR PER PER AS- HELLO PERMISSION
SEARCHES SEIZURES TO CONDUCTED
BY OFFICERS YOU FOR YOUR TO.
HOPE SORRY MARC THAT'S RIGHT NO
WORD AB IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
JUST BECAUSE UP BE GREAT YOU
HAVE THAT IS THAT THAT BY
LIMITING THESE. WHICH IS AND
SEIZURES TO BECOME BY.
PROVISIONAL OFFICER OR P.
OFFICER. IT THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW
ICE OFFICERS REALIZE EXPLAIN. A
PER PROVISIONS TO THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME CONSIDERATION
B. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT THANK YOU. DO WE ANY
OTHER LEAD WITH THIS IS A
SUPPORT OF S. B. EIGHT FIFTY TWO
CENA ONE OUT. TO HEAR FROM
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB EIGHT
FIFTY TWO HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. LESLIE CALDWELL
HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND THE
SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE. OF THE FENDERS
ASSOCIATION SORRY LONG DAY- IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF SB EIGHT FIFTY TO
HEAR INNER TWENTY TWO HUNDRED C.
NINE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO SB
EIGHT FIFTY TWO HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEEN NINE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO. WITNESSES
HERE IT AT IN OPPOSITION TO S.
B. EIGHT FIFTY TO. SCENE NINE
ONE NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES
BOTH IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
GET THE TELECONFERENCE. SERVICE
JUST AS A REMINDER- WITNESSES-
IS SUPPORTING OPPOSITION VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SHOULD STATE
THEIR NAME. THEIR POSITION AND
THE ORGANIZATION WHICH THEY ARE
PRESENTING- AND MR MODERATOR IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT THE AT
WITNESSES IN WILL BEGIN. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION THE SENATE
BILL EIGHT FIFTY TWO PLEASE
PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY EIGHT
ZERO. POINTS OUT BY ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AGAIN IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO THE SP. EIGHT
FIVE TWO FOUR EIGHT EIGHT ONE
ZERO. AND NOBODY IS COMING UP.
THANK YOU MR MODERATOR WITH THAT
I WILL BRING IT BACK TO DIETS
FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
CENTER WE HOPE YOU HAVE A MOTION
TO IN- BY SENATOR WIENER. SO NO
OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS-
CENTER WHICH IS LIKE TO CLOSE
YES I THANK YOU BOB THIS IS A
PROTECT ACT WHICH IS SPONSORED
BY ACLU CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORTED
BY LARGE COALITIONS ON IT THANK
ALL THE SPONSORS AND- AND
ADVOCATES AND WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR
REFERRING THE MEASURE FORWARD-
MATTER SECRETARY IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SB EIGHT
FIFTY TWO. MOTIONS THE PAST TO
THE FLOOR. SENATOR WILL HOP. BUT
CHAO ABOUT HIGH ABOVE AYE
BRADFORD. AFTER I WIENER FIRST
SKINNER AND WE- JUMPED AGAIN.
THANK YOU'RE RIGHT OVER GONNA
REMAIN. WE CAN CALL HIM TO KEEP
THAT ON ON ROLE CALL FOR- ARE
ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU SENT
THANK. SENATOR. AND DOES REQUIRE
BE FREE- I FILE NUMBER I'D
NUMBER TWENTY. S. B. EIGHT
THIRTY ONE. THANK YOU MADAM VICE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT S. B.
EIGHT THIRTY ONE. SB EIGHT
THIRTY ONE WOULD GIVE AUTHORITY
TO THE GOVERNOR TO NEGOTIATE
WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO
CREATE A PILOT PROGRAM FOR
UNDOCUMENTED AGRICULTURAL
WORKERS IN CALIFORNIA. IN ORDER
TO CREATE A PATHWAY TO
PERMANENCY RESIDENCY STATUS
PERMANENT RESIDENCY STATUS. YOU
KNOW THE UNITED STATES IS HOME
TO THE LARGEST IMMIGRANT
POPULATION IN THE WORLD AND
WHILE ASSIMILATION IN THE UNITED
STATES IS REPUTED TO BE FASTER
THAN IN ANY ANY OTHER COUNTRY
IMMIGRATION REMAINS ONE OF THE
MOST CONTENTIOUS ISSUES IN OUR
COUNTRY. THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR
IS ONE OF THE LARGEST IN
INDUSTRY SECTOR IN CALIFORNIA
AND ITS PERFORMANCE IS VITAL TO
THE ECONOMY OF THE STATE AND
FOOD SECURITY OF THE COUNTRY.
CALIFORNIA IS THE TOP
AGRICULTURE PRODUCING STATE IN
THE U. S. WITH MORE THAN FIFTY
BILLION IN AGRICULTURAL ANNUAL
REVENUE PRODUCING OVER 13% OF
THE U. S. AGRICULTURAL VALUE.
AND WE PRODUCE OVER FOUR HUNDRED
DIFFERENT COMMODITIES INCLUDING
TWO THIRDS OF ALL FRUITS AND
NUTS AND MORE THAN ONE THIRD OF
ALL VEGETABLES CAN DO CONSUMED
IN THE COUNTRY. THESE
AGRICULTURAL COMMODITIES ARE
ALSO EXPORT EXPORTED GLOBALLY
ACCORDING TO A STUDY BY THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DAVIS
EVERY DOLLAR VALUE IN FARMING
AND AGRICULTURE RELATED
INDUSTRIES GENERATES AN
ADDITIONAL A DOLLAR TWENTY SEVEN
IN THE STATE ECONOMY. AND FOR
EVERY ONE HUNDRED JOBS IN
AGRICULTURE THERE NINETY FOUR.
ADDITIONAL JOBS CREATED
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
CALIFORNIA'S ABILITY TO GROW AND
FEED. ITS POPULATION AND LARGE
PORTIONS OF THE NATION ARE
ESSENTIAL TO THE NATIONAL
SECURITY OF THE U. S.
CALIFORNIA'S AGRICULTURE
CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY DID
STATE. STATES ECONOMIC WELL
BEING AND IS VITAL TO ITS
STABILITY AND GROWTH. THIS
BUSINESS SECTOR RELIES UPON A
STABLE WORKFORCE TO MAINTAIN
ECONOMIC PRODUCTION AND
REVENUES. ACCORDING TO THE
CENTER FOR FARMWORKER FAMILIES
BETWEEN ONE THIRD TO ONE HALF OF
ALL FARM WORKERS IN THE U. S.
RESIDING CALIFORNIA. OR
APPROXIMATELY 500-100-0800
THOUSAND FARMWORKERS.
APPROXIMATELY SEVENTY FIVE OFF
FARMWORKERS ARE CALIFORNIA ARE
UNDOCUMENTED. AND ROUGHLY ONE
THIRD OF WOMEN. FARMERS AND
AGRICULTURE PRODUCERS IN
CALIFORNIA ARE STRUGGLING TO
FIND A RELIABLE AND CONSISTENT
WORK FORCE WHICH IS IT WHICH IS
AN AGING WORKFORCE AS WELL AND
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING OUT AND
BRINGING H. TWO A. WORKERS FROM
OTHER COUNTRIES IN ORDER TO
SUPPLEMENT. UNDOCUMENTED
AGRICULTURAL WORKERS FACE
MULTIPLE FORMS OF EXPLOITATION
MANY ENCOUNTER UNSAFE OR
UNSANITARY WORKPLACE CONDITIONS
AND ARE RELUCTANT TO REPORT THAT
THEIR RIGHTS RIGHTS RESERVED FOR
ALL WORKERS IN CALIFORNIA
REGARDLESS OF STATUS HAVE BEEN
VIOLATED BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID
OF JEOPARDIZING THEIR JOBS AND
FAMILIES. UNDOCUMENTED
AGRICULTURE WORKERS HAVE NO
ACCESS TO THE DISABILITY
BENEFITS AND SOCIAL SECURITY
BENEFITS THAT THEY EARN AS PART
OF THEIR WORKING IN AGRICULTURE
. DURING THE PANDEMIC THEY WERE
CLASSIFIED AS A CENTER WORKERS
WHO WERE EXPECTED TO SHOW UP
EVERY DAY. YET WERE NOT ELIGIBLE
TO RECEIVE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS
OR ANY OTHER COVERT RELIEF
GRANTED BY THE STATE NOR THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY FED THE
COUNTRY BUT SUFFERED HIGHER
RATES OF INFECTION AND DEATH DUE
TO COVERT. S. B. EIGHT THIRTY
ONE WOULD STATE THE INTENT OF
THE LEGISLATURE TO CREATE A
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH
THE GOVERNOR TO CREATE A PATHWAY
TO LEGALIZE AND AGRICULTURAL
WORKFORCE. THAT ARE CRUCIAL TO
THE STATE'S ECONOMY AND FOOD
FOOD SECURITY WITH ME TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THE
CELTIC QUESTIONS IS VICTORIA
BOSS REFUSES CAMPESINA. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WILL NOW CONTINUE
WITH THEIR LEAD WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. EIGHT THIRTY
ONE. PLEASE PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE
READY MA'AM HEATING AND WE WHEN
IS THE LIST OF BOOKS I'M GONNA
SAY OF DEALS POLITICALLY THAT IS
THAT THAN WOMEN PICKING.
AMENEMHET IS THIRTY A- MONTH. A
SO THEY WHAT THEY MULLIN THE
DEPARTMENT OF SIX THE BIGGEST.
ABLOH ELLIS BY YOUR MEDIUM OF
THE LIST IS YOUR DRAMA AND
CUMPLE. DO IT. BY THEM YEAH ME
MODELS HONESTLY AND I DON'T
INCOME. YOUR IN THE ACT. THE NEW
YORK YOU. MEET. I AM FOR A MONTH
. THING GO A FREE THIS THE
MEDICAL. SOME DIEM. THE AMPLE
DEVELOPMENT ARE. NOTHING NEWMAN
A WE FEEL THERE THIS BLEW. YOU
EMILY POCO THE- PARA. WON'T
THRIVE OFF OF MOVIE DORAL FOR
THE FREE. THAT THEY CALL ME AT
I'M IF. THIS THIS IN CASE YOU.
IS THINGS SAME CL BUILT ON BINGO
BETTER MISSILE THE BROWN MY
WHOLE THE EX THE- LIGAMENT THEY
- WILL WRESTLE. WAIT THEY ME.
HOME THROW THE WANT THEY MAY
LEFT ME ONLY THAT US FREE THE
WILL TO. CLOSE AT TEN MOST LOCAL
ME THAT BUT ON MATHIS YOU THRIVE
OFF OF. WHO'S BEEN THERE LIKE A
ME I THE STEP BY THIS LEGALS
MIDDLE WHAT YOU MISS. UP IS GONE
US BY THEY LET THEM THAT IS
COMPANIES YOU KNOW THE- BUT UP
ALL THEY HAVE ARE ALL THAT HE
LAW BUT I WOMAN. BE THE MOST
STUFF BUT ANA BUT I LOS SEE
SCHOOL MORE YOUR EITHER.
SACRAMENTO DONE THE FACING.
HELLO NOT THAT I AM ON. I'M IS
THIS GUY SAID PM THANK REALLY
BEEN MOST OF MY THEY THOUGHT
ABOUT DOING LOVE FOOD CAN MOST
JOB. BUT AS A KIND OF A LENGTHY
IS THE BUY USE. YEAH HE HOOKED
ANIMAL ALL THAT TOOK. YOU BUT I
MEAN SEE THEM ON THE ALL THAT IS
TOO WAS PUT US ON FOR CAN ALSO
TO ALMOST A SONG. KILL MOST LIKE
AND I'M THAT I COULD ON THE
OTHER I CAN JUST SOME. MOST OF
THE RUN UP AT MOST OF THE- SO.
CAN ALSO YOU KNOW A COUPLE
YOUNGER YEAH CHAT. BUT I IS. I
GUESS THE MOST BUT SOME BOTH
SOME OF THE MOTORS THAT US ONLY
. YOU KNOW SOMEONE THE BOOK THE
FILM IS THUMB AFFORDABLE MOST
BOMBER THING IS THAT THE
EMPLOYMENT NOTHING ABOUT HOW DO
YOU. IT WAS SOLD YEAH US BEING
C. CLINICAL DON'T I FELT SO GETS
WENT.
IF YOU LOOK OVER THE LAKE MAIN
CONTENT SELEUCID KILLING THE
PRODUCT WITH THEM I KNOW- IN A
FOUR STORY- WILL CONTINUE WITH
THE WITH FRIENDS LEAST
TRANSLATION PLEASE. THANK YOU
ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO
BE HERE TODAY AND I'M THANKFUL
TO THE CREATOR MY NAME IS
VICTORIA POLLS I AM FROM WHAT
THEY MULLIN. FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF SUBJECTIVE BECKETT I SPEAK
SPANISH BUT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE
IS KEY CHECK. I WORKED IN THE
FIELDS DURING THE PANDEMIC WHILE
MANY PEOPLE STAYED AT HOME I WAS
VERY AFRAID OF GETTING SICK. I
DON'T HAVE HEALTH BENEFITS SICK
TIME UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS I
MADE VERY LITTLE MONEY FOR VERY
HARD WORK IT WAS DIFFICULT TO
FEED MY FAMILY. THEY SENT ME
CENTRO BUT I DON'T HAVE
PERMISSION TO WORK OR EXIST
LEGALLY. REASONS BEYOND MY
CONTROL WHAT THE MULLIN MY
COMMUNITY SUFFERED A LOT. WE
GREW FOOD FOR THE TABLES AND
WORK TO SUSTAIN THE ECONOMY OF
THIS COUNTRY AND STATE I JOINED
MY COMPANY AT A SINGLE VENUE
DOES FROM THE THAT IS CAMPESINOS
IN CALIFORNIA. TO BE ABLE TO
ADVOCATE AND ACHIEVE A FAIR LIFE
FOR FARMWORKERS LIKE MYSELF AND
DEFENDER HUMAN RIGHTS. I URGE
YOU TO WORK WITH US AND VOTE IN
FAVOR OF SB EIGHT THIRTY ONE. WE
WORK SO HARD- IN THE FIELD AND
EXPOSE OURSELVES TO MANY OTHER
DANGERS. LIKE SNAKES. EXTREME
HEAT. STANDARDS IN THE WORKPLACE
THAT YOU CANNOT IMAGINE.
SOMETIMES THE WEATHER REACHES
ABOUT A HUNDRED AND FIVE DEGREES
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE EVEN DIE. IN
THE WORKPLACE. ALL OF THIS FOR
LATER AS TO BE. CHASED DOWN AND
DETAINED BY. ICE. AND I'M SORRY
I DIDN'T GET THE REST BUT- THANK
YOU THE THIRTY OF BOTH. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- WE WILL NOT
CONTINUE WITH WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. EIGHT THIRTY
ONE HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE. AND SUPPORT. DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF S. B. EIGHT THIRTY ONE. KEEP
SEEN NINE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION LEADER
OF- RIGHT LEE THAT IS CAMPESINA
IT'S A STATEWIDE OF. A NETWORK
OF WOMEN FARMWORKERS LEADERS IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU MA'AM. WELL
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB THIRTY ONE HERE
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED.
SEEING NONE. NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES GET THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB EIGHT THIRTY
ONE AND JUST AS A REMINDER- TO
THOSE WITNESSES WE ARE ASKING
FOR YOUR NAME YOUR POSITION. AND
THE ORGANIZATION IT WHICH YOU'RE
REPRESENTING AND- WITH THAT
MISTER MODERATOR PLEASE FROM THE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION TO SB THIRTY ONE WE
WILL BEGIN.
MISTER MODERATOR ARE YOU THERE.
YES I AM SORRY I WAS MUTED IF
YOU ARE SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
SB EIGHT THREE ONE PLEASE PRESS
ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT THIS
TIME ONE FILED BY ZERO. AND
MEDICARE NOBODY IS QUEUING UP.
NOBODY HAS QUEUED UP MADAM CHAIR
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR
MODERATOR- WITH THAT I WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE DIETS FOR
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THE
BILL. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR WIENER TO MOVE THE BILL-
ANY OTHER COMMENTS. OKAY THEN I
WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE MY
SAME AS WE HEARD THIS BILL PRIOR
TO. AND- I SAY BEFORE I AM IN
COMPLETE AGREEMENT THAT THE
IMMIGRATION- SALAS O'RYAN AT AS
A NATION IS COMPLETELY BROKEN I
KNOW THIS FROM PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE. IF YOU WITH THAT- I
WISH WE HAD A PROGRAM THAT WOULD
ALLOW AN IMMIGRANT FARM WORKERS
TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY AND DO
THE WORK THAT WE SO DESPERATELY
NEED TO BE DONE SO THAT WE DO
NOT HAVE INDIVIDUALS WORKING
HERE IN THE SHADOWS. AND THAT WE
WOULD NOT NEED SOMETHING OF THIS
OF THIS SORT- MAINLY BECAUSE I
HATE TO SEE. PEOPLE EXPORT. OUR
SENIOR KIDS GIVING OF THANKS TO
THE C. MORNING YOU GUYS
SUPPORTERS AND A KEY PART OF ANY
THAT WE EAT EITHER SUPPOSED TO
BORNEO. YEAH FOR THE WHAT
HAPPENED DENTAL SUPPORT LEVEL
ASK IF THEY WOULD. IT TO THE TO
GET THE ONLY THING I WOULD YEAH
HELLO THIS YEAR. THEY LOOK AT
HAVE THE LOCAL YEAH THAT IS
AWFUL A PROBLEM THAT ALSO OF.
YOU KNOW. TO
EXCEPT- SAID GIVE STORY IN IN
THAT FOR LOCAL LEFT WITHOUT
ORDER THE THIS STATE THIS IF WE
HAVE THE DAILY THEY K. THAT SEE
THIS IN THE MAKE UP FORTY OTHERS
THOUSAND THIS ESTARÁ EVEN THE
MOST CONCERN MUST PUT UP WITH
IT. I REGARDLESS BUT A CELEB
MUST IF YOU SEE AN EFFECT YUBA
EN CUANTO A METER C. ON THERE
THERE'S A SENTIMENT ESOS IN SAM
PAY THEIR I YOU KNOW I THOUGHT-
THINK I'M YOUR BOY YEAH APPLE
YOU HE THE IS THE FORTIETH LA.
WE'RE NOT GOING CIRCUIT YOGA'S A
STEP BY A HE SIERRA MUST BE ME
SO THAT THE WHOLE BUT AGAIN THIS
PERSON IS NOT THAT GIVE NEED A
ILLEGALLY MEANT THEY- HE SENT A
- THAT THE SPORT BOARDS WITHOUT
A WHOLE. I WORKING A IT'S ALMOST
AS A THROWBACK WAS THIS THAT WAS
LEFT FOR ON EARTH BUT UP IT THE
NOTICES ACROSS. E. THAN IT IS
BUT ME SO CITY OF E. MORE EVEN
IF YOU A PART OF. LET HIM IN
THIS A SEAT THAT AQUILA ABORTING
A COMMON A MEDIAN THEN THERE'S A
- LIGHT LEVELS YOU DOUBLE GONE
THE THAT YOU FIRST DON'T. YEAH
LOOSE A CANISTER PARTY'S- TO SO
WE UP WE ARE TO SU AT IF IS THE
BOY OF THE LATE I AND I JUST
WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY SAY THAT I
JUST EXT THAT. I WISH WE HAD
MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO
COME AND WORK HERE- YOU KNOW IN
A MAN THAT ALLOW THEM TO GO IN
FOR AS A NEW- AND MEET THE NEEDS
THAT WE HAVE IS A- SO THAT.
PEOPLE WILL CAN WORK IN A-
MANNER. WITH THAT- ANY OTHER
COMMENTS. TEST R. E. GET A- THE
SATELLITE- TUESDAY MORNING- E.
MUST SALUTE- NOISE TO RECEIVED
OF AMY AT US YOUR- IF. TOTAL
IT'LL CEASE THE- YES TELL THEM
YOU'RE THOUGH OF BY USE ACROSS
THE US.
TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF. OF
UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS AND TO.
GIVE THEM STATUS IN A NUMBER OF
SITUATIONS AND PROTECTIONS THIS
IS ONE THING WE CAN DO IS PUSH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MEET
US HALFWAY. AND TO SAY FOR THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA WE WANT A
SPECIAL PROGRAM AND WE WANT TO
RECOGNIZE THE- THE HARD WORK WE
START WITH AGRICULTURE WORKERS
AND WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY. THANK
YOU SENATOR- CALERO MATTER
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
SB EIGHT THIRTY ONE THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR WHAT HAAB. A JOB OKAY HI
TO ABOUT I'D BRADFORD. SKINNER
SKINNER AYE WIENER. WIENER AYE.
WE'LL KEEP THAT. ON ROLL CALL
FOR OUR ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU
UNITED WE GET LESS THAN WHAT AT
THAT THE WOMEN THEY. YEAH.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER SERVICE OKAY
WITH YOU I'D LIKE TO SEE US
START OUT ORDER. I'D LIKE TO
START OUT OF US GUARD OUT OF
ORDER GROWTH SB EIGHTY EIGHT BUT
I WOULD ALSO ITEM JUST BILLS ARE
FILE FILE. SORRY TWENTY THREE
BUT I WANT TO GET SOME WATER.
ABSOLUTELY SO WE WILL PROCEED
WITH FILE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY
THREE- SB EIGHTY EIGHT BUT
SENATOR SKINNER AND WHEN SHE IS
READY WE WILL BEGIN.
GOOD MEDICARE APOLOGIES SO YOU
SAID I COULD GO OUT ORDER- THANK
YOU APPRECIATE IT OKAY. HI ALL
RIGHT SO PLEASE TO PRESENT SB
EIGHTY EIGHT SAFE RIGHTS TO
SCHOOLS. I'M LAST YEAR WELL
FIRST CONTEXT CALIFORNIA AFTER
SINCE PROP THIRTEEN
PROGRESSIVELY TOOK A COUPLE
YEARS FOR US TO GET THERE
BECAME. BOTTOM LAST AS A STATE
IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF- RIDES
THAT OUR SCHOOLS PROVIDED TO OUR
STUDENTS FROM HOME TO SCHOOL.
I'M THAT'S NOT A GREAT POSITION
TO BE IN. WE WE'VE BEEN TRYING
TO AS AS OUR SCHOOL FUNDING IS
INCREASED. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO
RECTIFY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S
LOTS OF DATA THAT SHOWS- WHEN
SCHOOLS AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE
OUR KIDS RIGHTS INCREASES THEIR-
ABSENTEEISM AND OF COURSE
INCREASED ABSENTEEISM CAN LEAD
TO DROP OUT IN THE FIELD FAILURE
AT SCHOOL AND SUCH SO SAFE RIDE
TO SCHOOL IS THE SMART THING TO
DO. LAST YEAR WE ARE INCREDIBLY
FORTUNATE TO ALLOCATE SIX
HUNDRED EIGHTY MILLION IN HOME
TO SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION SOME OF
WHICH WILL BE ON GOING. A GOOD
DEAL AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN
TO FIX THAT CIRCUMSTANCE AND
WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS GIVEN
THAT WE'VE INCREASED OUR
INVESTMENT IT HELPS ENSURE THAT
DRIVERS WHO ARE PAID TO DRIVE
OUR STUDENTS TO SCHOOL FROM ROOM
TO SCORE BACKED HOME. MEET THE
SAME RULES AND REQUIREMENTS. TO
ENSURE THE KIDS SAFETY AS EXIST
FOR OUR SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS FOR
EXAMPLE A- SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS.
HAVE TO HAVE A SATISFACTORY
DRIVING RECORD THEY MUST COMPLY
WITH DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING.
THEY ARE MANDATED CHILD ABUSE
AND NEGLECT REPORTERS. THEY'VE
GOT A MINIMUM NUMBER OF HOURS OF
TRAINING ON SAFETY COMPONENTS
OF- DRIVING. THEIR VEHICLES MUST
BE IN SAFE WORKING CONDITION
WITH AN ANNUAL INSPECTION BY
STATE LICENSED FACILITY IN A
VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS. NOW AND
THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE THOSE
SAME THINGS ON ANY DRIVER WHO IS
PAID BY A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR
SCHOOL SITE TO TAKE A STUDENT
BACK AND FORTH FROM SCHOOL. I'M
THIS DOES NOT AFFECT IF A PARENT
CHOOSES TO PAY SOMEONE TO TAKE
THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL OR GROUP OF
PARENTS COME TOGETHER THIS BILL
DOES NOT AFFECT THAT. IT PURELY
AFFECTS WHEN OUR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THEMSELVES USE THE
STATE FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDED.
I'M IN WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE OUR WITNESSES. ON AN ABOARD
JUST WHO'S THE SUPERVISING
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM
CONSULTANT AT THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. IN
EMILY KAREN WHO IS THE LEAD
SCHOOL BUS INSTRUCTOR FROM A
SANTA ROSA CALIFORNIA. GOOD
AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS ANNA BOARD
JUST I AM A SUPERVISOR IN THE
SCHOOL FACILITIES AND
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES DIVISION
AT THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION. ON BEHALF OF OUR
STATE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC
INSTRUCTION. WHO IS PROUD TO CO
SPONSOR SENATE BILL EIGHTY EIGHT
I AM HERE TO VOICE HIS SUPPORT
OF THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE.
SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS PROVIDE AN
IMPORTANT SERVICE TO OUR PUPILS
AND THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ENSURE
THE SAFE TRANSPORTATION OF
PUPILS BETWEEN HOME AND SCHOOL
WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP IN
EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS. BECAUSE
OF THIS OVERSIGHT BY THE
DEPARTMENT SKEWS ME SAFETY
RESPONSIBILITY SCHOOL BUS
DRIVERS AND SCHOOL BUSES HAVE
STRICT OVERSIGHT BY. THE
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THE
DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES.
AND THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
PATROL. AS IT ENSURES THAT
PROPER TRAINING AND CHECKS ARE
IN PLACE TO TRANSPORT STUDENTS
SAFELY. IN RECENT YEARS SOME
LOCAL EDUCATIONAL AGENCIES HAVE
ENTERED INTO MULTI YEAR
CONTRACTS WITH APP BASED
COMPANIES ALSO KNOWN AS
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES. TO PERFORM HOME TO
SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER
PEOPLE TRANSPORTATION. SOME OF
THE THINGS BY THIS BILL PASSING
TODAY WHICH STRENGTHENS STUDENT
SAFETY OF PUBLIC PUBLIC
CONFIDENCE IN THE SCHOOL
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. APPLY
LAWS AND REGULATIONS EQUALLY TO
ALL DRIVERS WHO ARE COMPENSATED
TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE'S REGARDLESS
OF WHETHER THE DRIVERS ARE
EMPLOYEES OR INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS. IT WILL ALSO
REQUIRE ALL DRIVERS TO COMPLETE
MINIMUM HOURS OF TRAINING ON
VARIOUS SAFETY COMPONENTS SUCH
AS PRE TRIP INSPECTION OF THE
VEHICLE PROPER LOADING AND
UNLOADING OF PASSENGERS.
DEFENSIVE DRIVING AND THE
OPERATION OF THE VEHICLES IN
INCLEMENT WEATHER ARE UNDER
IMPAIRED VISIBILITY CONDITIONS.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THE
SUPERINTENDENT PLACES EQUITY AS
THE CENTER OF HIS AGENDA AND
THIS BILL ALIGNS WITHOUT CHARGE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME I
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MA'AM WILL CONTINUE WITH
OUR NEXT LEAD WITNESS IN SUPPORT
OF S. B. EIGHTY PLEASE PROCEED
WHEN YOU'RE READY. GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS MY
NAME IS AND LIKE URINE AND I'M
THE LEAD SCHOOL BUS INSTRUCTOR
WITH WEST COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
AGENCY AND SANTA ROSA. I STARTED
MY CAREER AS A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER
IN TWO THOUSAND SIX I BECAME A
SCHOOL BUS INSTRUCTOR IN JANUARY
TWENTY NINETEEN AND NOW I LEADER
TRAINING DEPARTMENT. SINCE
BECOMING AN INSTRUCTOR I HAVE
TRAINED A TOTAL FORTY SCHOOL BUS
DRIVERS. LIKE MANY SCHOOL
DISTRICTS MY AGENCY IS ALSO IN A
BIND WITH THE WORKFORCE CRISIS.
WHICH HAS NECESSITATED OUR USE
OF TNC COMPANIES TO TRANSPORT
OUR STUDENTS. THEY ARE DOING THE
SAME WORK ALONGSIDE MY SCHOOL
BUS DRIVERS WHO I HAVE TRAINS
WERE RIGOROUS PROGRAM. YET THEY
DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY OTHER
REQUIREMENTS OR QUALIFICATIONS
MY SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS DO. HOW
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHEN WE'RE
SIMPLY DOING THE SAME JOB. IN
THE INTEREST OF TIME ONLY TOUCH
UPON A FEW OF THE THINGS MY
SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS MUST GO
THROUGH. WE MUST PASS A PRE
EMPLOYMENT DRUG SCREENING TAKE A
MINIMUM OF TWENTY HOURS
CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION.
CONSISTING OF NEARLY SIX HUNDRED
PAGES OF RULES REGULATIONS
DEFENSIVE DRIVING AND PEOPLE
MANAGEMENT. MOST COMPLETE A
MINIMUM OF TWENTY HOURS BEHIND
THE WHEEL WITH A STATE CERTIFIED
INSTRUCTOR. BE FINGERPRINTED AND
TAKE A WRITTEN TEST FOR THE
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL AND
THEN TAKE A FINAL DRIVE TEST
WITH THE CHP. I DO TEN HOURS OF
CONTINUING EDUCATION EVERY YEAR
AND HAVE TO RENEW YOUR
CERTIFICATE EVERY FIVE YEARS
WITH THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
PATROL. SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS ARE
PLACED INTO A POLE NOTICE
PROGRAM. OR ANY AND ALL
INFRACTIONS ARE REPORTED.
FRAZIER INFRACTIONS OR OFFENSES
ARE CAUSE FOR THE DMV TO CANCEL
SUSPEND OR REVOKE A SCHOOL BUS
CERTIFICATE. ALL SCHOOL BUS
DRIVERS ARE ALSO PLACED INTO A
DOT RANDOM DRUG AND ALCOHOL
TESTING PROGRAM. SCHOOL BUS
DRIVERS ARE RESTRICTED WITH ZERO
TOLERANCE ALCOHOL LEVEL WERE ANY
DETECTABLE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL IN
THEIR SYSTEM. WILL PLACE AN OUT
OF SERVICE FOR TWENTY FOUR
HOURS. AND COMMERCIAL DRIVERS
OFFICIALLY AT THE WHITE APPOINT
A FOUR PERCENT. TNC DRIVERS ARE
NOT REGULATED TO THE SAME
TOLERANCE LEVEL. AND THEY COULD
BE POTENTIALLY DRIVING YOUR
CHILDREN YOUR STUDENTS ON THE
ROADWAYS WITH A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL IN THEIR
SYSTEM. BEING PLACED IN A RANDOM
DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING PROGRAM
COULD HELP PREVENT SUCH THINGS
FROM HAPPENING. I HAVE BEEN IS
FIELD FOR SEVENTEEN YEARS THE
BEARS LITTLE THE HOURS ARE
HORRIBLE BUT I REALLY CARE ABOUT
SHRINK OUR STUDENTS ARE
TRANSPORTED SAFELY. I FIRMLY
BELIEVE THAT THE BEST AND SAFEST
OPTION IS TO ALWAYS HAVE A
STUDENT AND A YELLOW SCHOOL BUS.
BUT WITH THE WORK FORCE CRISIS.
WE ARE ALSO. REQUIRED TO DO WHAT
WE NEED TO DO TO GET STUDENTS TO
SCHOOL. BUT IF WE ARE TO LOVE
AND BE TRANSPORTED PASSENGER
VEHICLES WE SHOULD ENSURE THAT
IS DONE AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL
THESE VEHICLES ARE SAFE AND THE
PEOPLE TRANSPORTING HER CHILDREN
ARE SAFE. FOR THESE REASONS I
URGE YOU TO PASS SB EIGHTY
EIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MA'AM. ON THE MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF S. B.
EIGHTY EIGHT HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. A SONG LAURA WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION WITH A PROUD.
SPONSORS OF THE BILL I AM
AVAILABLE FOR US TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE. YOU HAVE ANY MARK.
ALSO PROUD CO SPONSOR PEPSI
REPRESENTING CFTA UNION OF
EDUCATORS AND- CLASSIFY
PROFESSIONAL THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. OKAY CRAFTING WITH
THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES ALSO
PRO COAST MONSTER AND HER
SUPPORT THANKS. THANK YOU.
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MEGAN I'M A
SAN FRANCISCO SCHOOL BUS DRIVER
AND THE PRESIDENT OF SMART TV
LOCAL SEVENTEEN FORTY ONE.
REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL BUS AND
NON COMMERCIAL DRIVERS THANK YOU
. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS LOUIS COSTA
WITH THE SHEET METAL AIR RAIL
AND TRANSPORTATION WORKERS STATE
LEGISLATIVE BARRED- CROWD PROUD
CO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MITCH
SNIDER WITH THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION ALSO PROUD CO
SPONSORS- YOUR SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SPD
EIGHT HEARING ROOM TWENTY. TWO
HUNDRED. C. NINE WILL NOW MOVE
ON TO LEAVE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO S. B. EIGHTY EIGHT
. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS JOANNA
MCFARLAND AND I'M THE CO FOUNDER
AND CEO OF HOP SKIP DRIVE. AND
TESTIFYING TODAY IN OPPOSITION
OF SB EIGHTY EIGHT WHICH IF
PASSED WOULD CREATE OPERATIONAL
ISSUES THAT WILL MEAN SHUTTING
DOWN HOP SKIP DRIVE IN
CALIFORNIA WITHOUT ACTUALLY
MAKING SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION ANY
SAFER. HOP SKIP DRIVE IS A
LICENSED AND REGULATED
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
THAT I FOUNDED ALONG WITH TWO
OTHER MOMS WE DESIGNED EVERY
FACET OF HOP SKIP DRIVE WITH THE
SAFETY OF OUR OWN CHILDREN IN
MIND. WE WORK WITH SCHOOL
DISTRICTS AND COUNTY CHILD
WELFARE AGENCIES TO PROVIDE SAFE
AND RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION TO
STUDENTS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS YOUTH IN FOSTER
CARE AND STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL
NEEDS. THEY WITH THESE
POPULATIONS MOVE FREQUENTLY
SOMETIMES MOVED VERY FAR AWAY
AND THERE IS NOT ALWAYS
AVAILABLE SCHOOL BUS TO
TRANSPORT THESE CHILDREN. SB
EIGHTY EIGHT THREATENS TO TAKE
AWAY AT LIFELINE FOR THESE KIDS
WHO NEED IT THE MOST. IT IS
SEEKING TO SOLVE A PUBLIC SAFETY
ISSUE THAT DOESN'T EXIST AND IN
FACT IT MIGHT CREATE A PUBLIC
SAFETY CRISIS LEAVING THESE KIDS
WITH NO WAY TO GET TO SCHOOL. AS
SOMEONE WHO LIVES AND BREATHES
SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY
SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION EVERY DAY
I AM COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH THE
LEGISLATURE IS INTENSE TO INSURE
STUDENT SAFETY. SB EIGHTY EIGHT
WILL RESULT IN FEWER SAVE
STUDENT TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS
FOR STUDENTS SB EIGHTY EIGHT IS
DESIGNED TO SOUND LIKE IT
PROMOTE SAFETY BUT IN REALITY
ALL IT DOES IS IMPOSE SCHOOL BUS
TYPE REQUIREMENTS ON SEDAN STYLE
VEHICLES. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
SAFETY WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
THE TYPE OF DRIVER AND THE TYPE
OF VEHICLE TO ENSURE THE RIGHT
SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. I HOP SKIP
DRIVE WE BELIEVE SAFETY IS ABOUT
BEING PROACTIVE INNOVATIVE AND
RELENTLESS OUR SAFETY STANDARDS
ARE MORE RIGOROUS THAN ANY FOR
SMALL VEHICLES. HERE ONLY SOME
OF THE STANDARDS. HERE DRIVERS
MUST IF POINT CERTIFICATION
PROCESS THIS INCLUDES
FINGERPRINT BASED BACKGROUND
CHECKS THIS INCLUDES CHECKS
AGAINST THE CHILD ABUSE AND
NEGLECT INDICES. THIS INCLUDES
CAR AND MOTOR VEHICLE DRIVING
TAX. OUR DRIVERS ARE ALSO ON THE
POLE NOTICE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO
HAVE CONTINUOUS MONITORING FOR
BOTH A CRIMINAL CHECKS AND
DRIVING VIOLATIONS. AND CARE
DRIVERS ARE NOT JUST EXPERIENCED
DRIVERS THEIR CARE GIVERS THEY
HAVE TO HAVE FIVE YEARS MINIMUM
CARE GIVING EXPERIENCE. ON
AVERAGE THEY HAVE OVER TEN YEARS
OF CARE GIVING EXPERIENCE CARE
DRIVERS ARE PREDOMINANTLY WOMEN
WHO ENJOY A FLEXIBLE WORK AND
MAKING A DIFFERENCE WE USE
MOBILE TELEMATICS TO RECORD
DRIVING BEHAVIOR IN REAL TIME.
THIS IS RECORDING THE MOST RISKY
DRIVING BEHAVIORS LIKE SPEEDING
HARD BRAKING RAPID ACCELERATION
PHONE USAGE AND MAJOR COLLISION
DETECTION BECAUSE OF THIS WE
KNOW WE HAVE DATA WE REPORT OUR
DATA EVERY YEAR WE REPORT OUR
SAFETY DATA. AND WE KNOW THE
CARE DRIVERS USE MOBILE DEVICES
EIGHT TIMES LESS THAN OTHER
AVERAGE DRIVERS WE ALSO KNOW THE
COMMISSION RATES ARE ONE HUNDRED
AND FORTY TIMES LESS. THAN THE
AVERAGE DRIVER. HOSKIN DRIVE
ALSO PROVIDES REAL TIME
VISIBILITY AT THROUGHOUT THE
RIDE TO GIVE PARENTS AND SCHOOL
DISTRICTS PEACE OF MIND. I COULD
GO ON ABOUT ALL OF OUR SAFETY
MEASURES WE ARE VERY PROUD OF
OUR SAFETY RECORD AND ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT WE DO TO ENSURE
SAFETY BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE
LIMITED ON TIME. WE URGE THE
COMMITTEE TO OPPOSE SB EIGHTY
EIGHT ENSURE THE STUDENTS THAT
NEED IT MOST ARE NOT LEFT
WITHOUT SAFE TRANSPORTATION
OPTIONS. IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT
EXISTING REGULATIONS OF THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION AS
WELL AS OUR EXISTING PLATFORM
FEATURES MEET THE INTENT EVERY
SAFETY INTENT. OF WHAT. IS IN
THIS BILL THANK OUT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS DOROTHY VICE FRANKLIN.
AND I'M HONORED TO SPEAK WITH
YOU TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT
THIS DETRIMENTAL IMPACT S. B.
EIGHTY EIGHT HAVE ON OUR MOST.
VULNERABLE YOUNG PEOPLE. AS A
PROUD RESIDENT OF BERKELEY
SENATOR SKINNER'S. DISTRICT I
HAVE DEDICATED MY LIFE TO
WORKING WITH CHILDREN. I WAS A
PRESCHOOL TEACHER AND THEN A
SCHOOL BUS DRIVER FOR NINE YEARS
IN HAYWARD AND SAN FRANCISCO. I
DROVE I DROVE A SIXTY FOUR
PASSENGER AN EIGHTY ONE
PASSENGER BUT- BUT I'M HERE
TODAY BECAUSE- SB EIGHTY EIGHT
POSES A THREAT TO A CENTRAL.
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES FOR
CHILDREN. NOT ALL STUDENTS COULD
FIT ON A SCHOOL BUS SOME OF THE
MOST VULNERABLE KIDS IN OUR
COMMUNITIES NEED TRANSPORTATION
BECAUSE THEY ARE IN FOSTER CARE
MOVING HOUSING PLACEMENTS
FREQUENTLY. EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS OR MAY HAVE SPECIAL
NEEDS. AFTER RETIRING I STARTED
WORKING WITH HOP SKIP DRIVE. I
NO LONGER HAD THE CAPACITY FOR A
FULL TIME BUS DRIVING POSITION
BUT I WANTED TO STAY CONNECTED
TO MY COMMUNITY AND HELP
CHILDREN GET TO THEIR SCHOOL.
OUR SPECIAL NEEDS EDUCATION.
WELL I UNDER IN. HI THIS VIDEO
IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF
CHILDREN. IT PUTS UNNECESSARY
AND BURDENSOME REQUIREMENTS ON
DRIVERS AND DOESN'T ACTUALLY
INCREASE SAFETY. AS A RESULT IT
IT WILL BE VIABLE KIDS LIKE THE
ONES I DRIVE. WOULD LOSE ACCESS
TO SAFE AND RELIABLE
TRANSPORTATION. BOB MARLEY JAY.
AS A FORMER BUS DRIVER I BELIEVE
MANY OF THE SAFETY PROCEDURES
FOR SCHOOL BUSES MADE SENSE.
HOWEVER IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO
APPLY THESE REQUIREMENTS TO
SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF DRIVING MY
OWN CAR. FOR INSTANCE HOP SKIP
DRIVE UTILIZES TECHNOLOGY TO
TRACK MY DRIVING BEHAVIOR WHICH
CAN DETECT IMPAIRMENT FROM NOT
ONLY DRUGS AND ALCOHOL BUT ALSO
EXHAUSTION. CHRONIC PAIN. AND
EXTRACTION THAT A YEARLY DRUG
AND ALCOHOL TESTS WOULD NEVER
CAPTURE. BUSES ARE A HEAVY PIECE
OF QUICK OF A COMMITMENT I KNOW.
THAT REQUIRE MORE PHYSICAL WORK
IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO MEDICALLY
TESTED BUS DRIVER IS NOT
NECESSARY. WHEN DRIVING MY OWN
CAR THE LICENSE RENEWAL PROCESS
. ALREADY CHECKS THE MAJOR
ISSUES LIKE VISION CONSCIOUSNESS
IMPAIRMENTS IF I HAVE ANY OF
THESE ISSUES THEN I AM REQUIRED
TO SEE A DOCTOR. THE SAFETY
MEASURES HOPS GIVE DR USES ARE
DESIGNED TO CREATE THE SAFEST
ENVIRONMENT FOR ONE OR TWO.
STUDENTS IN MY PERSONAL CAR. S.
B. EIGHTY EIGHT WOULD NOMINATE
THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR MYSELF AS A
GRANDMOTHER TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE
AND HEART THOUSANDS OF BARBECUE
IT ACROSS CALIFORNIA THEREFORE I
KILEY S. YOU TO OPPOSE SB EIGHTY
EIGHT. DO NOT DETOUR INDIVIDUALS
LIKE MYSELF FOR MAKING A
DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION THANK YOU MA'AM
YOU WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WIN THIS
IS OPPOSITION TO SB EIGHTY EIGHT
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
. HELLO MAKING BEAR WITH THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS I'M IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON CHRIS
REFORM BEHALF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
BOARDS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. DO YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB EIGHTY EIGHT
HEARING ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
. C. NINE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES YEAH THE
TELECONFERENCE A SERVICE BOTH IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION JUST AS A
REMINDER WE ARE NOW- SEEKING TO
HEAR FROM OUR WITNESSES VIA
TELECONFERENCE- WITH THAT WE
WANT TO NOTE TO REMIND THAT WE
WANT YOUR NAME. YOUR POSITION
AND THE POSITION AND THE
POSITION THAT YOU ARE AT
REPRESENTING- ON THAT IT SO WITH
THAT AND MISTER MODERATE IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE PROMPT THE
INDIVIDUALS WAY TO TESTIFY IT
BOTH IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
WE WILL BEGIN THANK YOU ARE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ON LINE IF
YOU WISH TO TEST FOR ITS OR-
SENATE BILL EIGHTY EIGHT PLEASE
PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT
THIS TIME. ONE FALL BY ZERO WE
WILL BEGIN WITH WIND OF FOUR
HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I THINK THEY TOOK THEM
OUT OF. THEMSELVES LIKE YOU'RE
GOING AT ONE ZERO AGAIN IF YOU'D
LIKE TO. PUT YOURSELF BACK IN Q.
ONE BOTTOM LINE FOR THIRTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS-
RELAX ON RON. ALL MY GRANDKIDS
YOU THE SMALL WAY BOTH ARE WITH
TO GET TO SCHOOL SAFELY. EIGHT
ANALYZE THEM OKAY CANNOT HEAR
THEM IF I MAY I'M JUST AS A
REMINDER AT THIS TIME WE'RE ONLY
TAKING NAME POSITION ON THE BILL
WHETHER IT'S SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION IN THE NAME OF THE
ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE
PRESENTING. OKAY OKAY AT THE
MINUTE UNDERMINE CONROY AND I AM
IN THE- FOR F. BILL AT EIGHTY.
THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. HI
NEXT WILL TO LINE FOR TWO. YOU
ARE OPEN. THANKS FOR TWENTY
COMMUTERS GOING. HI I'M LISA
BURKE. AND I AM A GRANDMOTHER
AND A CAL GRANT WILL BOYCOTT
GOOD PRIVATE AREA AND I OPPOSE
SB. EIGHTY EIGHT. LOOK ONLINE
FOR A ONE YOU ARE OPEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI VERONICA BRIONNE. INCH
BRIONI CHARLES AND LYFT UNTIL
THEN. AND I OPPOSE- SB EIGHTY
EIGHT- THE SPECIALLY WHEN KIDS
ARE BULLIED. THE POST THANK YOU
. FOR TWENTY SIX YEAR OLD WITH.
THANK MEDICARE MEMBERS ANDREA
BALL ON THE HALF OF THE CENTRAL
VALLEY EDUCATION COALITION IN
OPPOSITION. THANK FOR TWENTY
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE'LL GO
TO FOUR THIRTY YOU ARE OPEN.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JEFF BARKER REPRESENTING
THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND
THE TWENTY THREE SCHOOL DISTRICT
SUPERINTENDENTS AND RIVERSIDE
COUNTY IN OPPOSITION. THANK FOR
TWENTY NINE. PLEASE GO AHEAD FOR
TWENTY NINE. ARE YOU MUTED. FOR
TWENTY NINE. ONE MORE SHOT. WILL
MOVE ON TO OUR LINE FOR THIRTY
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS LOOK HIGHER BRIDGE AND PONDER
I AM A CARE DRIVER FOR HOT DRIED
AND I AM IN OPPOSITION OF SB
EIGHTY EIGHT. ONE FOUR THIRTY
SEVEN YOU ARE OPEN. I AM MORE
NEED A CALIFORNIA MY KIDNEY
ASPECTS TO THIS SERVICE HE
PROPOSED LEGISLATION. HI NINE
FOUR TWENTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS MIRACLE ONE
DOLLAR AND I'M A PARENT I AM IN
OPPOSITION. YOUR LINE IS OPEN
FOR TWENTY EIGHT. I AM LISA
BURTON MY GRANDMOTHER AND A
CHARACTER I REFER FOUGHT GET
DRIVE IN THE BAY AREA AND I
OPPOSE SB EIGHTY EIGHT. I MEAN
FOR FORTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OR FORTY ONE YOU ARE ONLY. HI
I'M AMBER HENDERSON I'M A MOM
AND I ALSO DRIVE KIDS FOSTER
CARE TO SCHOOL AND OPPOSE SB
EIGHTY EIGHT. FOUR FORTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI I'M ROB ONE
HEARD I WOULD TRANSPORTATION
SUPERVISOR A LOT THAT I AM NOW
CARE GOT DRIVER FOUR HOP SKIP
AND I OPPOSE SB EIGHTY EIGHT WE
NEED. TO GET SERVICE THANK YOU.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN FOR FORTY FOUR
. HI MY NAME IS KEY TO BROWN I'M
A MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER AND
SENATOR RAPPERS DISTRICT I WORK
IN SOCIAL SERVICES. AND I OPPOSE
S. B. EIGHTY EIGHT. FOUR FORTY
FIVE YOU ARE OPEN. MY NAME IS
CINDY ASHER I'M A CARE DRIVER
FOR UPS GET BRIGHT AND I OPPOSE
S. B. EIGHTY EIGHT. FOUR FORTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MICHAEL
MARTINEZ I SERVED EIGHT YEARS IN
NINTH AT MILITARY I OPPOSE
SENATE BILL EIGHT EIGHT. THANK
YOU. YOUR LINE IS OPEN FOUR
HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS LAWRENCE
LENS I'M A RETIRED PARA EDUCATOR
AND THIS BILL WILL HURT SO MANY
YOUNG PEOPLE PLEASE OPPOSED S.
B. EIGHTY EIGHT. HI LINE FOR
THIRTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
MY NAME IS CRYSTAL MCNAUGHTON I
LIVE IN SENATOR BRADFORD
DISTRICT MY FIVE YEAR OLD SON IS
NON VERBAL AND ON AN INDIVIDUAL
THAT INDIVIDUALIZED EDUCATION
PROGRAM. AND HE'S ABLE TO ATTEND
SCHOOL BUT MEET THEIR NEEDS
THANK THE SPECIALIZED CRACK
TRANSPORTATION ADAM IN A
OPPOSITION OF SB EIGHT MAKE.
WELL GIVEN FINAL REMINDER ONE
FILED BY ZERO IF YOU'RE- IN
OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT. SB EIGHT
EIGHT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO LINE
FOR FORTY EIGHT. MY NAME IS
SAYING OF THE NET AND THEN THE
WESTMONT NEIGHBORHOOD. OF LOS
ANGELES. THE THING BRADFORD
DISTRICT ARE YOU CAN MANAGE THE
DAY CARE AND NON DRIVE KIDS IN
MY NEIGHBORHOOD. ON CHANGE AND
TRANSPORTATION UNCLE AND. EIGHTY
PLEASE GO LINE. FOR EIGHT. I
FOUR TWENTY EIGHT ARE YOU MUTED
. I'M LISA BURKE THIRTY CAN YOU
HEAR ME. YES I AM A GRANDMOTHER
AND A CALIFORNIA FOR PROFIT
PRIVATE AYE OPPOSED HE EIGHTY
EIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THIRTY TO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
DONNA CALDERON- I'M A
GRANDMOTHER AND LIKE YOUR
GRANDFATHER OBJECT AND I OPPOSE-
SB EIGHTY. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
FOR FORTY THREE YOUR OPEN. OR
FORTY THREE PLEASE ON MUTE.
THANK. FOR FORTY THREE. HELLO
WE'LL GO AHEAD- HI I THINK I
MISSED THE BOAT THREE ANYWAY I
NEED A MY NAME IS THIS ON THE
FLOOR MÀ ON THE PRE K. TEACHER
I'VE BEEN DRIVING FOR A HOP SKIP
DRIVE NOW GOING ON SIX YEARS AND
I DEFINITELY OPPOSE SB EIGHTY
EIGHT. AND I KNOW I HAVE BURKE
BACK I DRIVE THANK YOU MA'AM AT
THE SAME ADDRESS AND NAME A
STATION AND. ORGANIZATION THAT
YOU'RE PRESENTING. THE YOU FOR
CALLING THAT YOU. FOUR THIRTY
FOR YOU OPEN GO AHEAD. HELLO MY
NAME IS HELEN MAKING NEXT MY
PHONE IS APOCRYPHA- ENGLISH
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND TAKES IT
WILL KEEP DRIVE RIDE TO AND FROM
SCHOOL EVERY DAY OFF SCHOOL EACH
SEVEN MY DISTRICT NAME POSITION
AND- NAME. ARE YOU WANT. THANK
IBM SB EIGHTY OH FACT MIGHT
CONNECTED THAT SQUEEZE THAT YOU
CAN MEET. THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR CALL. LINE FOR
FIFTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO CAN
YOU HEAR ME. YES MA'AM YES.
HELLO HI MY NAME IS NOT THE
MONEY GIVE ME I LIVE IN FRONT OF
TOTAL HAVE TO FIX MY FAMILY MORE
WELL YEAH FROM AFGHANISTAN IF
YOU. THANK YOU KNOW WHY THAT
MIGHT HAVE BEEN YEAR OLD
AUTISTIC SON AS- SERVICE MA'AM-
AND FROM. I AM COURSE IF THE IF
THE- THANK YOU. I AM SURE WE GET
CLEAR THE QUEUE. WONDERFUL GLAD
EVERYONE HAD ENOUGH TO X. OUR
PER- ON THIS BILL. M. HAVING
SAID THAT WHEN THEY'LL BRING IT
BACK TO THE DIETS FOR ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS CENTER
WIENER. PROVIDER TO MOVE THE
BILL- OF BEYONCE IS ONE OF THOSE
SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S A LITTLE
BIT ANDERSON TECHNICALLY ONE OF
THE BILLS IN THIS COMMITTEE
BECAUSE OF THE BACKGROUND CHECK
AND A MANDATED. REPORTER THIS TO
THIS COMMITTEE IS TANGENTIAL AT
BEST- TO THIS. BILL BUT GOT YOUR
BILL REFERRAL SOMETIMES WORK
AND- AND MYSTICAL WAYS THAT I
I'VE YET TO FULLY- COMPREHEND
THE TIME SO- I'M I'M HAPPY TO
MOVE THE BILL FORWARD IN SUPPORT
TODAY I'M I'M SURE THIS WILL BE.
A CONTINUING- DISCUSSION AS IT
MOVES. THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE
AWESOME THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SENATOR WIENER CENTER BRADFORD
YEAH I WAS GONNA SING QUESTION
HOW DID THIS WIND UP IN PUBLIC
SAFETY NOT TRANSPORTATION BUT
YOU KNOW. TO SOME OF THE
INFORMATION I WAS JUST YEAR BUT
ALSO I AM GOT CONCERNS BECAUSE
AGAIN- I HAVE SEVEN SMALL SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THAT USE THE SERVICE-
THEY WERE IN MY OFFICE A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO- INDIVIDUALS SO I'M
JUST CURIOUS HOW DO YOU ADDRESS
SPECIALS PARENTS. WHO SAY THEY
HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS TO.
WOULDN'T CRY TRADITIONALIST
BUSES HOW DO THEY GET TO AND
FROM WORK IN IT'S ALL ME SCHOOL
IN THE ALSO SET. UP A OF THE KEY
THAT ARE CARE WHO MIGHT LIVE
OUTSIDE OF THAT DISTRICT THE
UTILIZES TO GO TO SCHOOL- THAT
THEY WERE INITIALLY- IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY GREW UP.
WITH HOW DO WE DRESS UP.
CERTAINLY THANK YOU CENTER
BRADFORD M. I. IN MY NOSE THIS
ISN'T WHAT. IT WAS SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THAT CAME TO YOU I AM
UNDERSTANDING BUT IT IS SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THAT MAKE THE
CONTRACTS FOR. THE SERVICE AND-
WHETHER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS
CONTRACTING FOR TO A TRANSPORT
SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS OR FOSTER
CARE CHILDREN. THIS DOES NOT
INTERFERE WORK OR PREVENT THEM
FOR EXAMPLE FROM. HAVING A
CONTRACT WITH POPSOCKETS RIGHT
THE HOPSCOTCH RIGHT WOULD JUST
HAVE TO HOP SKIP RIGHT WOULD
JUST CAP TO MEET THE CONDITIONS.
THAT FOR SAFETY THAT ARE IN THE
BILL. NOW THE DESCRIPTION THAT-
THE CERTAIN SAFETY MEASURES ARE
IN PLACE IN EFFECT OR MORE OR
LESS SELECTIVE. BECAUSE THE
PUC'S OWN CODE SAYS THAT IF A-
IF SUCH A TNC IS IN A CONTRACT
WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT
THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE
SPECIFICATIONS THAT THE PSC CODE
WOULD REQUIRE. AND THAT IS THE
EXPECTATION THAT A SCHOOL
DISTRICT WILL PUT THEIR OWN
REQUIREMENTS BUT WHAT WE'VE
FOUND IS THAT NOT ALL THE SCHOOL
DISTRICTS ARE. AND WHILE THERE
MAY BE SOME SERVICES LIKE THIS
THAT ARE YOU KNOW HAVE FOR
MERITORIOUS IN THEIR TYPES OF
SAFETY- YOU KNOW REQUIREMENTS
THAT THEY PUT IN. IT THERE'S NO
GUARANTEE THAT ALL OUR AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE IS THAT SAFETY FOR OUR
CHILDREN. AND GIVEN THE TYPE OF
SAFETY MEASURES THAT THE-
OPPONENTS DESCRIBED THERE-
SERVICE PER- IN GAUGES AND THEN
IT IS. HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY.
HOW THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET
BUT- INDEPENDENT OF THAT THIS
DOES NOT PREVENT SCHOOL
DISTRICTS FROM CONTRACTING WITH
TNC TYPE COMPANIES IT JUST
REQUIRES THAT ANY DRIVER PAID TO
DO THIS WORK MEET CERTAIN
REQUIREMENTS. SAFETY HAS BEEN
THE PAIR MINE WE ALL CONCERNED
ARE THERE SOME RUN INS WITH
ACCIDENTS OR RECKLESS DRIVING OR
ANY HISTORY WITH THIS COMPANY
THAT- THERE'S MANY MORE THAN
JUST THIS COMPANY SO THE- YOU
KNOW TO. CERTAINLY YOU CAN ASK
THIS WITNESS BUT- WE HAVE ONE
COMPANY HERE THERE ARE COMPANIES
LIKE THIS UP AND DOWN THE STATE
THIS IS A SINGLE ONE. I'M JUST
CURIOUS THE SAFETY RECORD FOR
COMPANIES SUCH AS THAT SO I JUST
CURIOUS WHAT YES WE HAVE HAD
ZERO MAJOR CRITICAL SAFETY
INCIDENTS WE PUBLISH A SAFETY
REPORT EVERY SINGLE YEAR WE
PUBLISH WAY MORE DATA. TO THE
PUBLIC THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR
SCHOOL BUS TRANSPORTATION I ALSO
JUST WANT TO CORRECT THE IT IS A
IT IS NOT CORRECT THAT THE PC
REGULATIONS DO NOT COVER HOP
SKIP DRIVE OR COMPANIES LIKE US
WHEN WE ARE CONTRACTING WITH
SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT'S
ACTUALLY. AT THE PC HAS
DISTINGUISHED THAT THEY- THAT
THEY DO NOT REGULATE BUSINESSES
OR ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE SOLELY
SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION SUCH AS
SCHOOL BUSES BUT FOR ENTITIES
THAT DO MORE THAN JUST WILL
TRANSPORTATION FOR INSTANCE THAT
WORK YEAR ROUND OR THAT DO YOU.
CONSUMER SERVICES OR OTHER
SERVICES THOSE ARE COVERED BY
THE P. YOU SEE SO WE ARE HEAVILY
REGULATED AND SUBJECT TO
REGULATION BY THE PC. BUT NOT
FOR THE SPECIFIC ASPECT OF FOR
INVITING THE THERE'S NOTHING
THAT DISTINGUISHES THAT. SO
THAT'S IT'S A IT'S AN IT'S A MIS
UNDERSTANDING BUT IT'S NOT
CORRECT- AND GIVEN THAT WE ARE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
THE WAY THAT THE MODEL WORKS WE
WOULD NOT BE EIGHT ONE WE WOULD
NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THESE
REQUIREMENTS TO THESE
REQUIREMENTS ARE VERY
BURDENSOME. FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS
DRIVING JUST A FEW HOURS A WEEK
AS OUR WITNESS THE TESTER WHO
USED TO BE A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER
AND NOW DOES THIS SHE WOULD NOT.
GO TO THE EFFORT TO MEET THOSE
REQUIREMENTS TO HELP OUT IN HER
COMMUNITY AT A SIMPLE COUPLE OF
HOURS A WEEK SO I MODEL WOULD
NOT WORK AND WE WOULD HAVE TO
LEAVE CALIFORNIA. ARE UBER
DRIVERS AND LIFT DRIVERS
REQUIRED TO HAVE THE SAME LEVEL
OF SAFETY EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE
NOT MAYBE NOT BE TRANSFERRED
TRANSPORTING KIDS BUT THERE ARE
TRANSPORTING PEOPLE DAILIES IN
THE SAME FASHION. THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION
DISTINGUISHES BETWEEN
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
LIKE UBER AND LEFT FROM
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
LIKE HOP SKIP DRIVE THAT DRIVE
UNACCOMPANIED MINORS AND SO WE
ARE SUBJECT TO MORE RIGOROUS
REGULATIONS UNDER THE PC.
VANCOUVER AND LYFT UBER AND LIFT
HAVING THEIR POLICIES THAT THEY
DO NOT TRANSPORT. CHILDREN UNDER
ARE UNACCOMPANIED MINORS UNDER
EIGHTEEN SO THEY DO THAT THEY DO
HAVE THEIR POLICIES STATE THAT
THEY DON'T SO THEY THEY DO NOT
MEET THE SAME LEVEL OF
REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NOT
REQUIRED TO KEEP THE SAME LEVEL
FOR APARTMENTS THAT HOP SKIP
DRIVE IN OTHERS LIKE US ARE.
OKAY SO AM I WAS ABLE TO HEAR
THIS- THIS BILL AND- IN
EDUCATION. AND SO SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE IT ON RECORD
HERE AS WELL AS FAR AS THE
PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE THAT THAT
IS THE- VALUE THAT'S THE- REASON
WHY THIS BILL WAS INTRODUCED WAS
TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT.
THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN BEING
TRANSPORTED TRYING TO BASICALLY.
AB HAVE THE SAME STANDARDS FOR
BUS DRIVERS AS WELL AS THE AB.
ANY ANY ONE THAT THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT CONTRACTS WITH TO
PROVIDE. HOME TO SCHOOL
TRANSPORTATION FOR STUDENTS YES
MA'AM- PERFECTLY SAID- WITH THAT
IN MIND- SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
THAT I ASKED WERE SPECIFICALLY
ASKED YOU WHETHER OR NOT. AB
THERE WAS A HISTORY OR ANY DATA.
THAT AB HAD BEEN COLLECTED THAT
WOULD PROMPT- SUCH A BILL I NEED
FOR SUCH A BILL. BECAUSE AND THE
LEGISLATURE AND THIS BODY HAS
BEEN VERY ADAMANT IN PURSUING
POLICY THAT- IS PROMPTED BY
RESEARCH AND DATA THAT SAYS THAT
THIS IS A NEEDED BECAUSE OF X.
Y. NZ. SO MY QUESTION WAS WITH
REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD
ANY DATA. IN FACT COLLECTED
STATING THAT THERE WAS A NEED
BECAUSE THE SAFETY STANDARDS
WERE NOT MET AND- YOU KNOW GOD
FORBID BUT IF CHILDREN HAD BEEN.
HURT IN THE PROCESS. BERMAN OF
EDUCATION MIGHT BE THE BEST TO
ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER THERE IS
SUCH DATA- YES IF YOU. WELL THE
REASON THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
IS BECAUSE THAT'S JUST NOT A
REPORTABLE ACCENT UNLIKE A
SCHOOL BUS. THAT'S A REPORTABLE
ACCIDENT JUST LIKE YOU ARE I
DRIVING OUR CAR SO THAT'S JUST
GOING TO BE A NATIONAL STATISTIC
IS NOT GOING TO IDENTIFY THAT
THEY'RE TRANSPORTING SCHOOL
CHILDREN TO OUR- SCHOOL.
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL
REGULATING THAT INDUSTRY IF A
SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS AND SCHOOL
BUS ACCIDENT WITH KIDS ON BOARD
THEY SHALL CONTACT. THEIR
EMPLOYER AND THE CALIFORNIA
HIGHWAY PATROL WHICH THEY COME
OUT AND THEY IDENTIFY WHETHER OR
NOT THIS WAS A PREVENTABLE
ACCIDENT AND STATISTICALLY. THEY
KEEP STATISTICS AND THEY ALSO
PUBLICLY PRODUCE THAT EVERY
YEAR- AND THEY WERE BEHIND A FEW
YEARS BUT THAT IS DONE SO IF
THOSE DRIVERS ARE ACTUALLY
GETTING IN ACCIDENTS. THERE IT'S
JUST GOING TO BE AND THE
NATIONAL STATISTIC DATABASE
THERE'S NO CLARITY. IN THERE
THAT THEY WOULD SAY ONE
TRANSPORTING CHILDREN TO OR FROM
SCHOOL WE PROVIDE REPORTING TO
THE PC UNDER PC REGULATION RIGHT
BUT THAT'S YOU BUT THERE'S NO
RIGHT. EIGHT WE HAD GO WE CAN'T
GO BACK AND OKAY OKAY SORRY I
JUST SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU
THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH YOUR
THOUGHT AND THEN WE ARE. I JUST
DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY
REGULATING AGENCY OUR SISTER
COMPANY THAT IS ACTUALLY
REPORTING THAT INFORMATION I
DON'T KNOW I JUST KNOW THAT
SCHOOL BUS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. WITH THE RIGOROUS
TRAINING THAT IS REQUIRED. THEY
ALSO ENFORCE THAT DOCUMENT A AND
REGULATED AND THERE WAS JUST. A
COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO
MAKE SURE THAT I- SAT. IF A
CHILD IS IDENTIFIED WITH A
NINETY P. A CHILD WITH
DISABILITIES. AND TRANSPORTATION
IS A MANDATED SERVICE THAT'S
COOL DISTRICT SHALL PROVIDE
TRANSPORTATION. AND THERE IS A
LIAISON IN EACH OF THE COUNTIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA FOR FOSTER YOUTH AND
HOMELESS AS WELL. MANDATED
SERVICE REQUIRES MANDATED
TRANSPORTATION. AND SO THEREFORE
TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE
PROVIDED WHETHER THAT BE WITH. A
SCHOOL BUS OR A TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK WE'RE JUST ASKING. TO
PER THE BRIT SOME PARAMETERS TO
PROTECT THE CHILDREN AND THE
SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN. AND TO
ENSURE WE KNOW WHO'S DRIVING
SOMETHING THANK YOU VERY MUCH I
APPRECIATE. THE FEEDBACK. AND
THE CLARITY- SO THAT WAS THE
QUESTION THAT I HAD IT IN IN
EDUCATION WAS WHETHER OR NOT
THAT WE HAD ANY DATA- SOMETHING
THAT CAME TO LIGHT DURING THAT
CONVERSATION WAS AS WELL. WAS
THE FACT THAT M. THE POLICIES
FOR SAFETY- REQUIREMENTS FOR
DRIVING BUSES. ARE DIFFERENT
THAN THIS IT THEN THE
REQUIREMENTS PER SE ON A SMALL
PRIVATE VEHICLE. AB AND SO DID
THERE IS A DISCREPANCY AS TO
WHAT THE PROTOCOLS. ARE WHAT THE
PROTOCOLS AREN'T BUT NEEDLESS TO
SAY THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS ARE
STILL IN PLACE SPECIFIC TO.
PRIVATE DRIVERS- ON ON CALL FOR
SMALL HOURS AND SMALL VEHICLES.
AND THE FACT THAT- I BELIEVE.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT
I BELIEVE THAT EVERY COMPANY
THAT DOES. A SIMILAR SERVICE NOT
JUST YOUR COMPANY ARE REQUIRED
TO HAVE A REPORT. BASED ON THE
ACCIDENTS- ON TO THE PC SO BASED
ON THAT. BASED ON THE RECORD
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
PROVIDING YOUR TESTIMONY. HAS
THERE BEEN. ANY COMPLAINTS BY
SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR BY THE
COMPANIES REPORTED AS A SAFETY-
BEING BREACHED OR- CHILDREN
BEING HARMED. SO FOR THE RECORD
AB WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST MAKE
SURE YOU SEE IT ON THE RECORD
LEAVES I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON
YOUR BEHALF THANK YOU KNOW IT
PER THE PC REPORT ON INCIDENTS
WE REPORT ACCIDENTS WE REPORT
ON- ISSUES OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT
AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT THERE HAVE
BEEN NO INCIDENCES. NO SCHOOL
DISTRICTS OR ARE ASKING FOR THAT
IN THIS IS REQUIRED OF ALL
COMPANIES WITHIN YOUR SPECIFIC
SERVICE YEAH ALL TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE
SERVICES TO KIDS HAVE TO FOLLOW
PC REGULATIONS. ANY COMPANY THAT
IS CONTRACTING WITH A SCHOOL
DISTRICT HAVE TO RIP HAVE TO
FOLLOW WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS THE
SCHOOL DISTRICT ADDS ON TOP OF
THAT. SO ON THE FINAL NOTE IN
EDUCATION THERE WAS ONE FINAL
NOTE THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE CLARITY ON IS THAT
. AS A FORMER SCHOOL BOARD
MEMBER- THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO
WAY THAT ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT
WOULD CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY.
THAT DEALS WITH CHILDREN IN A
WAY THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE OR
COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OF OUR
CHILDREN. SO THOUGH I DON'T WANT
TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERY
SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THAT END BUT
I IT FOR LIABILITY PURPOSES. AYE
I HOPE HOLE HARD WE DO NOT
BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WOULD
SUBMIT. ANY CHILD TO- TO A
HAZARDOUS CONDITION OR
ENVIRONMENTAL OR SERVICE ON THAT
AND FOR MANY MANY REASONS
BECAUSE- LONG BEHOLD. MAMA BEARS
LIKE MYSELF WOULD BE ON THAT
SCHOOL DISTRICT LIKE NO TOMORROW
IF THAT WERE THE CASE- SO- WITH
THAT SAID- I PERSONALLY DO NOT
SEE A- DATA. OR RESEARCH THAT
SHOWS THAT THERE HAS BEEN
ANYTHING THAT HAS COMPROMISED A
STUDENT. AND THAT THERE'S AN
ACTUAL NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR
BILL AND- AND I ALSO JUST WANT
TO NOTE THAT AND- THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO- COMMITTEE MAKE SURE
THAT I HAVE IN MY NOTES ON HERE
- THAT THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
THOUGH NOT THE SAME. I'M STILL
ARE RIGOROUS ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE
THE TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN MODIFY
CAN THAT CONTRACT AND MODIFY.
TRACTICA MUCH ABOUT MODIFIED
TRACKED THE- THE DRIVING- MODEL
OR- IS THAT THE DRIVING.
BEHAVIOR BEHAVIOR THAT WE GO I'M
SORRY IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY
TODAY. THEIR DRIVING BEHAVIOR OF
THE- OF THE CURRENT RIGHT
DRIVERS AND AS ALWAYS I BELIEVE
THAT WE NEED OPTIONS TO
ACCOMMODATE EVERY CHILD BECAUSE-
TALKING ABOUT SAFETY. AB WINDOW.
M. WHETHER WE WITNESS IT OR
WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE OURSELVES
AT- AB VICTIMS OF. BUT QUITE
FRANKLY HARM CAN HAPPEN TO ALL
KIDS ON SCHOOL PUBLIC SCHOOL
BUSES WITH LOTS OF KIDS WE KNOW
MANY INCIDENTS WHERE KIDS HAVE
BEEN BULLIED AND WHO HAVE BEEN
PHYSICALLY HARASSED OR- OR
COMMITTEE AND IN BUSES WHICH ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE. SAFE ANDEAVOR SO
THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND WITH THAT
IN MIND I BELIEVE THAT IF A
PARENT HAS AN OPTION TO HAVE
THEIR CHILD PRIVATELY
TRANSPORTED BECAUSE A CHILD DOES
NOT FEEL SAFE TRAVELING THE
PUBLIC SCHOOL BUS. WE SHOULD
GIVE THEM THAT OPTION IN RESPECT
DIFFERENT TYPES OF SAFETY
PROTOCOLS AS LONG AS WE HAVE IN
PLACE AND THERE IS NO NEED. WE
HAVEN'T HAD A NEED OR SHOW A
NEED FOR SUCH A MODIFICATION SO
BASED ON THAT I WILL NOT BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY WITH
THE UTMOST RESPECT SENATOR
SKINNER- ON THAT END AND- DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS. SENATOR SKINNER WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE- DEPRECIATE
DISCUSSION I JUST WANNA REMIND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE
ONE COMPANY BEFORE US. AND SO
WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF ONE
COMPANY CANNOT BE OR- WE DON'T
HAVE THE DATA. WE ONLY HAVE THE
TESTIMONY WE ALSO DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ANY
OTHER COMPANY. AND THE- THE-
ASSERTION THAT THE CHILDREN WHO-
YOU MOST AT RISK CHILDREN
SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN THE
FOSTER CHILDREN WOULD NOT HAVE
RIGHTS IF THIS PAST. HAS ALREADY
BEEN CORRECTED BY OUR-
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION. AND THE- MANY OF THE
ASPECTS OF THE PUC'S
REQUIREMENTS. AND I DON'T HAVE
THE P. C. CODE IN FRONT OF ME
BUT SOME REMARKS ARE SELF
REPORTING. AND ARE KNOWN. IN
OTHER WORDS THEY'RE NOT TO THE
SAME LEVEL. OF REQUIREMENTS THAT
. WHEN YOU'RE TRANSPORTING.
STUDENTS AND EVEN SPECIAL NEEDS
STUDENTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT-
YOU KNOW FOR SURE INCE'S NOW
MAYBE SOME OF THE SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THESE
CONTRACTS ARE ADDING. THESE
ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS BUT AND
I APPRECIATE- VICE CHAIR THAT
YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN YOU
ARE ON THE BOARD WAS VERY VERY
RESPONSIBLE HOWEVER I THINK WE
HAVE ALL OF US MUCH EVIDENCE OF
WHERE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE NOT
SO RESPONSIBLE WHERE SCHOOL
DISTRICTS HARBORED. COACHES ARE
TEACHERS OR OTHERS THAT. WERE
HURT YOU KNOW. BASICALLY
VIOLATING VARIOUS ROLES
INCLUDING SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND
SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILDREN- YOU
KNOW MUCH MUCH MORE- AND WHILE I
WOULD VERY MUCH HOPE THAT EVERY
SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD CONTRACTS
WITH WHOEVER THEY WERE
CONTRACTING WITH TO. GIVE OUR
CHILDREN THE- RIDES FOR HOME TO
SCHOOL THAT THEY HAD REALLY GOOD
SAFETY STANDARDS AND THEY
ENFORCE THOSE AND SUCH. WE CAN
ALWAYS DEPEND ON THAT AND SO
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS
ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE EXPANDING
WE ARE PROVIDING NEW FUNDING AND
EXPANDING SCHOOL DISTRICTS
ABILITY TO PROVIDE THIS HOME TO
SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION. ON SO.
THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED A GREAT
DEAL OF THINGS THAT ABOUT THIS
BILL BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE US THAT
ARE GERMANE TO THIS COMMITTEE.
THEN THE PART AS YOU HAS BEEN
REMINDED THAT IS GERMANE TO THIS
COMMITTEE IS THE BACKGROUND
CHECK AND THE MANDATED REPORTER
WHICH I THINK IS VERY VERY
IMPORTANT SO WITH THAT I WOULD
ASK FOR YOUR I. BOATS. SENT OUT
WHICH I'M SORRY YES THERE ARE
MANY MINUTES IN THE ANALYSIS AND
YES I AM ACCEPTING THOSE ALL
RIGHT- I DO APPRECIATE IT WE
HAVE A MOTION. WIENER AYE
SENATOR WIENER HAS MOVED IT- I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD SENATOR I
DO TRUST YOUR WORK IN THE SPACE
NUMBER ONE AND ANYBODY DEALING
WITH CHILDREN SHOULD. GO THROUGH
THE SIMPLE STEPS OF MAKING SURE
THAT WONDER TO YOUR POINT A
MANDATED REPORTER AND HAS A
BACKGROUND CHECK- I THINK
THAT'S- IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
THE KIDS AND TO A LOT OF PEOPLE
SO I DO APPRECIATE IT- LET'S
CALL- FOR A VOTE. SB EIGHTY
EIGHT MOTIONS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR HA. HA
I- TO ABOUT NO TO VOTE NOW
BRADFORD. SKINNER ALL RIGHT
SKINNER I'VE WIENER. WIENER HI
THREE ONE ANALYSTS THREE TO ONE
OF THOSE OUT. GREAT AND I JUST
GOT MORE THAN. THE FIGHT WITH
THE CHURCH PERMISSION IF I COULD
DO- THE- FIRE ITEM TWENTY FOUR
SB FIVE SIXTEEN I HAVE A JOINT
AUTHOR ON FILE ITEM TWENTY TWO
AND THAT PERSON IS NOT AVAILABLE
YET. THANK YOU- I WILL ALLOW
THAT SENATOR YOU HAVE FOUR
WONDERFUL. I'M SB FIVE SIXTEEN
NUMBER ONE I WILL START WITH
SAYING I AM ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS FROM THE
ANALYSIS. THAT CLARIFY. THAT THE
CONTROLLER. SURE THAT YES THAT
THE CONTROLLER- CHAU COLLABORATE
WITH THE F. T. B. TO MEET THE
BILL'S REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT IT
REQUIRES THE ENTITY REQUESTING
THE OFFSET TO SEND THE NOTICE TO
THE DEBTOR THAT THE BILL'S BEEN
PAID- FOR THE PURPOSE OF SB
FIFTY SIX. SKEWS ME THE PURPOSE
OF SB FIVE SIXTEEN. IS TO
ESTABLISH BASIC RIGHTS FOR THOSE
OF US ANY OF US WHO MAY OWE
DEBTS TO REPUBLICANS T. WE
ALREADY HAVE BASIC. CONSUMER
RIGHTS IF YOU OWE A DEBT TO A
PRIVATE ENTITY PRIVATE SECTOR
BUT WE DO NOT HAVE SUCH RIGHTS
FOR PUBLIC DEBT. AND IT IS NOT
UNCOMMON FOR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT
TO ASK THE STATE F. T. B. OR THE
CONTROLLER TO COLLECTED DATA ON
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BEHALF.
THAT GIVES THE AUTHORITY TO THE
F. T. B. TICKET DOCKED YOUR TAX
REFUND TO GARNISH WAGES TO DO A
VARIETY OF THINGS. AND UNLIKE IF
YOU'RE OF A PRIVATE DEBT WHERE
IT'S REQUIRED THAT YOU GET A
RECEIPT. OF WHAT AFTER YOU'VE
PAID THE DEBT. I'M IN THAT YOU
YEAH MAYBE IF YOU'VE ONLY MADE A
PARTIAL PAYMENT THAT YOU HAVE A
RECEIPT THAT SHOWS WHAT YOU
STILL OWE THE YOU GET A CLEAR
COUNTING ON THE SOURCE OF THE
DEBT. AND YOU GET A NOTICE ABOUT
YOUR RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW. NONE
OF THOSE ARE IN PLACE FOR THE-
IF YOU OWE ANY KIND OF.
GOVERNMENT ENTITY SO SB FIVE
SIXTEEN PROVIDES SIMILAR
PROTECTIONS IT STOPS THE DOUBLE
COLLECTIONS BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT
AND THE F. T. BEARD THE
CONTROLLER BECAUSE SOMETIMES
WHAT CAN HAPPEN I'M SURE THERE'S
SOME SOME OF US HERE MAY HAVE
EXPERIENCED THIS WHERE. YOU SEND
IN THAT CHECK FOR YOUR PARKING
TICKET MAYBE THERE'S A DELAY
WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE IT COMES
TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AFTER
THE DATE IT WAS DUE THEY'VE
ALREADY TURNED OVER. THE
COLLECTION TO SAY F. T. BEER THE
CONTROLLER AND BUT THE CASH YOUR
CHECK. AND THEN YOU YOUR YOU
KNOW YOU GET THIS DOUBLE WHAMMY
WITH THE YOU KNOW PERHAPS FINES
OR SOMETHING AND THEN YOU HAVE
TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW YOU
CAN SHOW THAT WAIT A MINUTE
ALREADY PAID THIS. SO IT STOPS
AT DOUBLE COLLECTIONS REQUIRES A
RECEIPT AFTER THE DEBT
COLLECTION. IT ALLOWS THE DEBTOR
TO BE REIMBURSED IF THE DEBT IS
DOUBLE PAID. IT ENSURES THAT
YOUTH CRIMINAL JUSTICE FEES
CANNOT BE REFERRED TO THIS TYPE
OF COLLECTION. AND REQUIRES THE
DEBTORS GET THEIR NOTICE OF
RIGHTS AND I'D LIKE LINDA AWAY
FROM THIS WHO IS THE SENIOR
POLICY ADVOCATE AT THE WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY. TO ME
MADE ME WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON LINDA WAY WITH
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY PLEASED TO SUPPORT SB
FIVE ONE SIX WHICH WOULD
REQUIRE. CERTAIN MINIMUM
STANDARDS FOR PEOPLE WHO- AND
PAY GOVERNMENT- DEBT. NAVIGATING
THE FRANCHISE TAX BOARD IS AN
INTIMIDATING AND CONFUSING
PROCESS PARTICULARLY FOR LOW
INCOME CALIFORNIANS WHO ARE
UNLIKELY TO HAVE AN ADVOCATE OR
ATTORNEY TO ADVISE THEM. AT
MINIMUM PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BASIC
INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR DEBT AND
REPAYMENT OPTIONS SO THAT THEY
CAN MAKE A REALISTIC PLAN TO
ADDRESS THEIR DEBTS AND CONTEST
ANY COLLECTION ERRORS. SB FIVE
ONE SIX MAKES IMPORTANT CHANGES
TO THE INFORMATION PEOPLE
RECEIVE ABOUT THE REPAYMENT
OPTIONS. AND ABOUT WHAT INCOME
IS EXEMPT FROM COLLECTION. THE
BILL ALSO EXTENDS. EXISTING
PROTECTIONS FOR CONSUMER DEBT TO
GOVERNMENT- DEBT MOST PEOPLE WHO
HAVE DEBTS REFERRED TO THE
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD CANNOT
AFFORD TO PAY THE AMOUNT WHEN IT
WAS IMPOSED. COLLECTION ACTIONS
THAT LEAD CALIFORNIANS WITHOUT
ENOUGH INCOME TO PAY THE RENT TO
COVER FOOD TRANSPORTATION OR
MEET THEIR OTHER BASIC NEEDS. DR
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES INTO
FINANCIAL AND SOCIAL
INSTABILITY. THIS IS WRONG AND
COSTLY TO THE STATE. THEREFORE
WE URGE- I FELT THANK YOU. TWO
DOZEN SUPPORT ME TO. LESLIE
CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS SEEING
NINE WILL MOVE TO LEAD
OPPOSITION. SIX QUICKLY NORRIS
PURCELL COULD ALSO BE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION COUNTY
TREASURE'S TAX COLLECTORS AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THINK TANK
YOU WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE. SEEING
NONE WILL MOVE TO THOSE WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
PLEASE- MODERATOR OUT FROM THE
FIRST INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU IF
YOU ARE NOT. OPPOSITION OR
SUPPORT PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO ONE- BEIJING
WROTE THIS TIME. IN THE- MEASURE
MINOR ONE STARBLAZER FOR YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. MOTIONS
SB EIGHTY EIGHT. NO HI THIS IS
SB FIVE ONE SIX. THANK YOU I
PROGRESS SB FIVE ONE SIX PLEASE
PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO.
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP OUR RIGHT
THANK YOU CAN WE BRING THE
CONVERSATION BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU WE HAVE A
MOTION SENATOR SKINNER WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE. YES I ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE THANK YOU WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR BRADFORD AND I
CAN CALL ROLE SB FIVE STAR SIX-
SB FIVE SIXTEEN MATCHES DUE
PROCESS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR A HOP ON
HOP I ALSO BURKE. FIVE WEEKS NOW
SB FIVE ONE SIX OF THIRTY
SECONDS. OKAY BUT IT'S ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY FOUR. ALL RIGHT A
JOB NOW. BRADFORD OUR RECORD AYE
SKINNER. HI SKINNER AYE WIENER
WIENER AYE. ALL RIGHT THE BILL
IS OUT FOUR TO ONE- WE WILL MOVE
ON CENTER SKINNER ARE YOU ABLE
TO TAKE YOUR NEXT ONE PERFECT. I
BELIEVE SO IS IT YES. RECORDS
SHOW OKAY SO MY JOINT AUTHORS
SENATOR BACKER IS STILL
PRESENTING IN JUDICIARY SO- I
WILL BE SALAS. I'M. PROVIDE SOME
FAIRNESS IMPROVE THE EQUITY OF
OUR PAROLE PROCESS. BUT SOME OF
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE L. A. O.'S
REPORT THAT WAS RELEASED AT THIS
YEAR. THE TITLE OF THE REPORT
WAS PROMOTING EQUITY IN THE
PAROLE HEARING PROCESS. AND THE
L. A. O. IN EXAMINING THE- R.
FOR- HEARING PROCESS AND- THE
DATA THAT THEY COULD COLLECT
IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WERE
ASPECTS OF CALIFORNIA'S PAROLE
HEARING PROCESS THAT CAN LEAD TO
IN EQUITABLE OUTCOMES. AND AS
WE'VE COME TO EXPECT FROM THE
ALEJO'S BUDGET ANOTHER ANALYSIS
DALY- DID A VERY THOROUGH REVIEW
SO WHAT SB EIGHTY ONE DOES IS.
CODIFIES HIS PROPOSED CODIFY
SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF
THE ELLIOTT AND SPECIFICALLY TO
ADD SAFEGUARDS TO INCREASE
OBJECTIVITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN
REDUCE BIAS. AND TO. ADD AN
ELEMENT OF OVERSIGHT TO HELP
ENSURE THE PRO DECISIONS ARE
BASED ON PUBLIC SAFETY
CONSIDERATIONS. ON NOW WE KNOW
THAT AS WITH THE WORK THAT'S
BEEN DONE THE RESEARCH SPEND
DOWN ON IMPLICIT BIAS THAT. THE
THERE CAN BE. THE NATURE OF A
PLACE OF BIASES SUCH THAT THE
PERSON WHO'S ENGAGED IN MAKING A
DECISION ABOUT ANOTHER. THEY MAY
NOT BE CONSCIOUSLY BIAS THEY NOT
MAY NOT BE SITTING THERE
THINKING THAT THEY AND AGAIN I'M
JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF EVEN
THAT I'M EITHER LOOKING AT
SOMEONE IN A WAY DIFFERENTLY OR
I WOULD TREAT THEM DIFFERENTLY
OR THE DECISION I WOULD MAKE
ABOUT THEM IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE
EITHER THEIR COLOR. OF THE COLOR
OF THEIR SKIN AND THEIR
ETHNICITY THERE'D A DISABILITY
SAY OR ANY OTHER NUMBER OF
FACTORS BUT WHAT RESEARCH SHOWS
IS THAT. IMPLICIT BIAS IS PRETTY
MUCH THERE AMONG SO WAS ALL OF
US THERE'S HARDLY ANYONE WHO IS-
FREE OF IT. AND SO HOW DO WE
CORRECT FOR IT AND SOME OF HOW
WE CAN CORRECT FOR IT IS TO.
SPECIFY CERTAIN- HE CERTAIN
FACTORS THAT HAVE TO BE USED TO
HELP REDUCE THAT BIAS AND TRY TO
ELIMINATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OR
AT LEAST LESSEN. ANY DECISIONS
THAT MAY RELY ON FACTORS THAT
ARE SUBJECT TO DISCRIMINATION
AND BIAS WHICH INCLUDE AS I
MENTIONED RACE ETHNICITY GENDER
OR DISABILITY. IT ALSO ALLOWS
FOR A PERSON TO PETITION A COURT
TO REVIEW VIEW THEIR PAROLE
DECISION IF THEY FEEL THAT THAT
DECISION WAS. BIASED OR NOT
BASED ON THEIR RISK TO PUBLIC
SAFETY AND SO IT CLARIFIES THAT
READ THE REVIEWING COURT SHOULD
APPLY A CLEAR AND CONVINCING
EVIDENCE STANDARD WHEN REVIEWING
PAROLE DENIALS IN REVERSAL
DECISIONS. AND IT ALSO PROVIDES
THAT PAROLE CANDIDATES ARE
INFORMED OF THEIR RIGHT TO SEEK
JUDICIAL REVIEW REVIEW OF A
DENIAL. SO THOSE ARE THE
ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS OF S. B.
EIGHTY ONE AND IN ADDITION TO
THE ALEJO'S REPORT AS MOST OF
YOU KNOW BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED
IT IN OTHER HEARINGS. ON AND
I'VE CARRIED OTHER BILLS AS A
RESULT OF MY SITTING ON THE-
GOVERNOR'S ESTABLISHED
COMMISSION- RATHER COMMITTEE ON
THE REVIEW OF THE PENAL CODE.
BUT SO THAT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP
OF A SENATE APPOINTEE AND
ASSEMBLY APPOINTEE A NUMBER OF
VERY DISTINGUISHED JUSTICES. AND
AND LEGAL SCHOLARS AND IT'S BEEN
A VERY INTERESTING EXPERIENCE
AND I'VE BEEN ON IT NOW FOR
THREE YEARS AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT. THE COMMITTEE DID
IN DEPTH IS LIKE THE L. A. O. IS
A LOOK AT THE OUR PAROLE PROCESS
AND IT WAS. A COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION ALSO TO ENACT
SOME OF THESE MEASURES IN ORDER
TO HELP IMPROVE AND REDUCE THE
BIAS IN OUR ROLE PROCESS SO LET
ME INTRODUCE OUR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT WE HAVE TOM NO SIR WHICH
WAS FROM THE PENAL CODE REVIEW
COUNTY LINDA ANDERSON FROM SAN
FRANCISCO FIVE KEYS. THANK YOU
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS AND
STAFF I'M TOM OUT OF THE WOODS
FROM THE LEGAL DIRECTOR OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OUR VISION OF THE
PENAL CODE. WHICH IS A STATE
ENTITY AS SENATOR SKINNER
MENTIONED THAT STUDIES MAKES FOR
EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE FOR
IMPROVEMENTS THE CRIMINAL LAW IN
THE STATE THE GOALS ARE TO
IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY. PARDEE
SING UNLESS INCARCERATION AND
IMPROVING EQUITY AS THE SENATOR
SAID SB EIGHTY ONE IMPLEMENTS
THE NUMBER OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PENAL
CODE COMMITTEE AROUND THE PAROLE
PROCESS. AFTER AN IN DEPTH STUDY
THE PENAL CODE COMMITTEE
CONCLUDED THAT CURRENT LAWS ARE
INCONSISTENT AND ALLOW TOO MUCH
SUBJECTIVITY AND UNRELIABLE
RESULTS- THOSE FINDINGS ARE
CONSISTENT WITH THE L. A- REPORT
THAT SENATOR SKINNER MENTIONED
THAT. SIMILARLY FOUND THAT THE
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DISCRETION
THAT PAROLE COMMISSIONERS
CURRENTLY HAVE CAN LEAD TO
BIASED RESULTS. AND I THINK THAT
SHOWS IT'S- STARKIST A PROBLEM
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRAM RATE
WHICH HAS GONE DOWN.
SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE TWENTY
EIGHTEEN AND THAT YEAR THE GRANT
RATE WAS TWENTY TWO PERCENT.
LAST YEAR WAS JUST 14% SO THAT
THE 36% DECLINE IN JUST A FIVE
YEAR PERIOD. AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THE PENAL CODE COMMITTEE
HAS RECOMMENDED HERE IS TO.
CLARIFY AND ALLOW FOR GREATER
COURT OVERSIGHT OVER THE PAROLE
HEARING PROCESS AS A WAY TO
ENSURE THE DUE PROCESS AND OTHER
IMPORTANT RIGHTS ARE HONORED AT
THE PAROLE HEARING PROCESS.
COURTS HAVE PLAYED THIS ROLE IN
CALIFORNIA FOR DECADES BUT THE
LEGISLATURE HAS NEVER SAID WHAT
THE COURT SHOULD DO IN REVIEWING
THE PAROLE DECISION THE COURT'S
OF SET THOSE STANDARDS ALL BY
THEMSELVES ABOUT- INPUT FROM THE
LEGISLATURE. SO SB EIGHTY ONE
WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THE
LEGISLATURE DIRECTED COURTS AND
HOW TO REVIEW PAROLE DECISIONS.
AND AMONG THE OTHER THINGS THAT
IT DOESN'T BRING MUCH NEEDED
CLARITY TO THE LAW AROUND THIS
AREA AND I THINK IF YOU'RE TIMES
HAVE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU NEXT WEEK.
YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY
MY NAME IS BELINDA ANDERSON AND
I COMMITTED MY LIFE CRIME IN
NINETEEN NINETY ONE AS A RESULT
OF MY DRUG ADDICTION. WHEN I GOT
TO PRISON OF FOCUSED I FOCUS OF
RECOVERY MY ADDICTION. TO
TRANSFORM MY LIFE I'VE BEEN SO
FOR THIRTY FIVE YEARS SINCE. A
TO SELF HELP GROUPS IN BECAME A
FACILITATOR FOR IN A ANOTHER
GROUP FOR HEALING THE
REHABILITATION. AT THE TWENTY
SIX YEARS IN PRISON THE WARDEN
THE PAROLE BOARD CALIFORNIA
SUPREME COURT. RECOMMENDED ME TO
GOVERNOR BROWN FOR COMMIT
TEMPTATION. I WAS GRAN
TEMPTATION BY GOVERNOR BROWN IN
TWENTY EIGHTEEN. THE DA ALSO
RECOMMEND BEFORE WE SAID TO SEE.
WHEN I WENT TO MY PEROT HERE
ENOUGH TO BE A COMMUNITY FOR
EXCEPTIONAL CONDUCT. I WAS
DENIED FOR REASONS THAT HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH. PUBLIC
SAFETY. THE COMMISSION IS
FOCUSED ON VERY- VIOLATION.
INCLUDING THE LAST ONE I
RECEIVED A TWO THOUSAND FOUR FOR
MOTOR. THAT HAVE BEEN PRESCRIBED
IT EXPIRED THEY ALSO CLAIM I HAD
A CELL PHONE. I NEVER DID WAS
NEVER WE KNOW FROM WHAT. THEY
SAID I LOOK GREAT ON PAPER AND I
WAS SAYING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS
BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE ME.
I GOT A THREE YEAR DEAL NOW IN
MY HARD DRIVE. THAT MADE AT
LEAST THREE MORE YEARS WITHOUT
THEM READ YOUR CODE. I WORK SO
HARD TO CHANGE TO MAKE A
MILLION. AND EVEN WHICH
RECOGNIZE WHO IT. I FELT LIKE I
HAD BEEN SAID OF WHAT THEY ARE
HERE. I KNEW I WAS IN A LONELY
IN THIRTY YEARS IN PRISON AYE
WHAT WITNESS SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
DEEPLY CHANGE. IT WILL BE S. AS
IN THAT RACE TO THEIR
COMMUNITIES YET THEY WERE DENIED
PAROLE FOR THE RHESUS. FRESH IN
MIND WHO DID EVERYTHING TO BOARD
ACTS INCLUDED TAKEN SPECIFIC
CLASSES WITHIN TOLD THEY WOMEN
THAT MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM.
PEOPLE WERE DENIED BECAUSE THE
BOARD THEY BELIEVE THEY WERE
REMORSEFUL SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE
WAY THEY EXPRESS THEIR REMORSE.
M. NXT ARENA HAD A BETTER
ATTORNEY IN THE DA CAME TO
SUPPORT. NOTHING ON MY RECORD
HAD CHANGE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE
WAS BY. REPRESENTATION IN THE
SUPPORT AHEAD AND THEY GRANTED
ME PEROT. I WAS SO GRATEFUL BUT
IT'S NOT FAIR. MOST PEOPLE DON'T
HAVE THAT SUPPORT. I SUPPORT SB
EIGHTY WELL BECAUSE. THE
PROBOSCIS TO BE FAIR. NEED TO
FOCUS ON WHETHER SO. IS RISKS.
NOW WITH THE COMMISSION JUST
HAVE A- ABOUT THE- EVEN THE
HISTORY SO THEY CAN SAFELY. HOME
I'VE BEEN HOPEFUL YEAR. AND I.
IN THE HALLWAY. WITH FIVE KEYS
I'M ALREADY OF COURSE. IS SO
GRATEFUL BE ABLE TO SPEND TIME
WITH MY FAMILY. GET BACK TO MY
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU-
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO SUPPORT ME
TO USE. LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS. ASSOCIATION AND THE
SAN FRANCISCO. PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE IN SUPPORT. TRANSACTION
MEANS YOU'RE SMART JUSTICE
CALIFORNIANS STRONG SUPPORT. SU
KIM I'M COMMON LAWN SERVICE
POLICY INSTITUTE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. JAMES KING ON BEHALF OF
THE ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR
WOMEN PRISONERS AND SURVIVED AND
PUNISHED IN STRONG SUPPORT.
LEAVE A KELLY ON BEHALF OF THE
ELEVATORS FINANCIAL SUPPORT. A
LITTLE ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS
FOR SAFETY AND JUSTICE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. WITH THE DAILY AND
MENTORING REBOUND IN STRONG
SUPPORT. ERIC GENTRY SHOULD BOKO
DRIES PROGRAM IN STRONG SUPPORT
. THANK YOU I WILL NOW MOVE ON
TO LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
SEEING NON WILL MOVE ON TO
REGULAR OPPOSITION. SEEING NON-
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PLEASE
PROMPT THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL
WAITING TO- TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE. THANK YOU IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO SIX TIMES THIS WEEK. AND
ONE MOMENT WE HAVE ONE QUEUING
UP- JUST YOU KNOW. PLEASE WAIT.
IT'S JUST GONNA. BE WITH JUST
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. YOU KNOW
WHY NUMBER. IT WAS A- SOURCES.
WE CAN MOVE ON. THANK YOU I'LL
BRING THE WILL FLOAT. WE GET WE
COULD HAVE WON WITH AN OPERATOR
SORRY BOUT THAT LIFE FOR FIFTY
FOUR THERE WE HAVE IT AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON FAIR NUMBER
GREGORY ABOUT THE STATE THAT THE
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU- WE
WILL MOVE THE CONVERSATION BACK
TO COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
ANY COMMENTS FEEDBACK- OKAY SO
SENATOR BRADFORD MOVES BILL
CENTERED WHICH LIKE CLOSE. THANK
YOU COM. I THINK THIS IS A FAIR
WAY TO- ADDRESS ISSUES THAT THE
L. A- REPORT ADDRESSED AND I-
WOULD ASK YOUR AYE VOTE THANK
YOU SENATOR ASKED OF THE BILL
HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
BRADFORD CAN CALL ROLL CALL
COUNTY. I WAS IN THE EIGHTY ONE
FIFTY A PATH TO APPROPRIATIONS
FEDERAL HAVE HIGH HOP I WHICH
OVER TO ABOVE NO BRADFORD PARK
AYE SKINNER AYE AYE WIENER. ALL
RIGHT THE BILL IS OUT FOUR TO
ONE- I'M GONNA LIFT- THIS CALL.
SO LET'S LET'S. YOUR A LEFTIST
OKAY. SO LET'S DO. TO IF IT'S
GOING- SERVICES WHEN I GET OPENS
AND- LET'S LET'S START SO I
DON'T WANT THIS THE IN THIS WITH
ORDERS. I TO YEAH GET OTHERS TO
BEEN OUT YEAH OKAY. I. THREE
WELL AS I ONE ZERO. FAILED TO
SPEAK EARTH SORRY I DON'T FOR SB
FIFTY FIVE. CURRENT VOTE IS ZERO
SKINNER. SKINNER I. FIVE ZERO
BILLS OUT- THAT'S A NON A CASO
CONSENT ITEM THAT'S FIVE. A FIVE
AND THEN LET'S MOVE ON. FIVE
NINETY NINE IS SHE SKINNER OKAY
NINE NINE ACRE VOTERS ZERO
SKINNER. SKINNER ARE FIVE FIVE
BILLS OUT. SECOND SENT OUT M. S.
TWO TWENTY SIX MOTIONS THE PAST
TWO CURRENT VOTE IS TWO ZERO
SKINNER. THAT'S A BILL THREE
ZERO FIVE. FIVE I FORTY ZERO
FOUR DOES THE BILL'S. YES YEAH
YOU'RE NOT VOTED ON NOT THE YOU
NOT VOTE ON IT YOU ARE HERE. ON
OKAY FIVE THE RULES I. OKAY
GREAT AS SEVEN NINETY SIX MOST
TO PASS A PER AS AMENDED TO
APPROACH. CURRENT VOTER FORTY
ZERO SKINNER. SKINNER I BILLS
THE BILL IS OUT FIVE ZERO. ITEM
NINE IS OUT ITEM NINE IS OUT.
SENATE AS A LEFT AND THREE FORTY
EGGMAN MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTED
THREE TO ZERO BRADFORD BRADFORD
AYE SKINNER. SKINNER AYE ZERO
FIVE ZERO THOSE OUT. TEENS.
NUMBER SIXTY. SB SIX THE ONE
CLOSEST TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE TWO ZERO SENATOR WILL HOP
HOP AYE BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE.
FIVE ZERO OUT ITEM FIFTEEN SB
SIX OH THREE REQUIRE MODE ACTION
IS DO YOU PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
FLOOR SENATOR WILL HOP BY HOP
AYE BRADFORD. BRADFORD I. SCHOOL
SOUTH FIVE ZERO GOES OUT. AS SIX
NINETY RUBIO MOTION WAS TO PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR WILL
HOP- AND SHE TOOK THE AMENDMENT
THAT NO NO NO SHE DID NOT TAKE
THE TIME AND SHE COMMITTED THAT.
IT WILL NOT GET PASSED BACK HERE
TO LIST LIKE MY CONCURRENCE TO
LET'S OKAY I THINK- I CENTER
REVIEW AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS SO
I WILL- GRANTOR THAT AM I. BOB
HI BRADFORD BRADFORD I'D- FIVE
ZERO THAT BILLS OUT SB EIGHT
FIFTY TWO RUBIO MOST TO PASS TO
THE FLOOR CURRENT VOTERS THREE
TO ZERO WILL HOP. I HOP I
SKINNER. THE RULES. OKAY NUMBER
SEVEN. SKINNER ARE. FIVE ZERO
FIVE ZERO THAT BILLS OUT. SB
EIGHT THIRTY ONE THE MOTION IS
DUE PASSED TO APPROACH KERN VOTE
THREE ZERO HOP HI HOP I BRADFORD
. BRADFORD AYE. FIVE ZERO THAT
THE BILL IS OUT. ONE OF THE. SB
FOUR OH FOUR WERE FIVE DEEP TO.
CURRENT VOTE IS FOR ZERO SIX.
SKINNER. ZERO FIVE ZERO THAT
GOES OUT AND WE ARE DOING. THANK
YOU AND I. BUT SAME SAFETY YOU
AND SET UP A FIFTY. THANK YOU
EVERYBODY'S PUBLIC SAFETY A.