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JUDICIARY LABOR AND
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CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
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WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT TODAY'S PARTICIPANT
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RIGHT THE ACCESS CODE IS. SEVEN
TWO FIVE TWO THREE ONE FIVE WE
ARE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS OF. NASCO MEMBERS OF
THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO BE PRESENT
AS YOU ARE IN ROOM ELEVEN
HUNDRED SO WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR
QUORUM AND BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE
HAVE FIVE ISSUES ON TODAY'S
AGENDA HOVERING SEVERAL KEY
ISSUES IN THE STATE PRISON
SYSTEM INCLUDING WAGES AND
EMPLOYMENT CANTEEN COST
COMMUNICATION A VISITATION
PROGRAMMING REENTRY AND PAROLE
MOST OF THE ITEMS TODAY ARE
INFORMATIONAL AND ANY ACTION
ITEMS WILL BE HELD OPEN SO NO
VOTES WILL BE TAKEN WE WILL TAKE
PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL ITEMS AT
THE END OF THE HEARING. BEFORE
WE HEAR PRESENTATION ON THE
ISSUES OF CONSULTANT MAYBE
PLEASE ESTABLISH A QUORUM
SENATOR EYES OUT HERE. SENATOR
NEWMAN. SENATOR SEYARTO. A
QUORUM IS ESTABLISHED THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY LET US
BEGIN WITH ITEM ONE WAGES AND
EMPLOYMENT WE WILL BEGIN WITH
CDC ARE. ON. WE HAVE WITH THIS
TRACY JOHNSON ACTING WARDEN
FOLSOM STATE PRISON CDCR
MICHELLE CAIN ASSISTANT GENERAL
MANAGER EXTERNAL AFFAIRS AT CAL
PIAA. ARE RUSTY BECK TOLD
ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER CAL PA
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BRANCH
WHERE MARTIN CAL PA PARTICIPANT
AND KENYATTA KALI SANA CALPE A
PARTICIPANT. SO WE WILL HAVE IT
MISS JOHNSON. A. THANK YOU A
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
TRACY JOHNSON I'M THE ACTING
WARDEN OF FOLSOM STATE PRISON
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE SO CURRENTLY
CDCR HAS APPROXIMATELY FORTY
FOUR THOUSAND PAID JOBS IN THE
INSTITUTION JOBS ARE BROKEN OUT
INTO A COUPLE DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES INCLUDING SUPPORT
JOBS LIKE COOKS DINING ROOM
WORKERS. CUSTODIANS AND CLERKS
THAT IS ABOUT 70% OF THE JOBS IN
THOSE AT THE LOWER PAY RANGES
BETWEEN EIGHT AND THIRTY SEVEN
CENTS AN HOUR WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT
30% OF OUR JOBS WHICH IS WHAT WE
CONSIDER LIKE AN INDUSTRY LEVEL.
THOSE ARE THE FIREFIGHTERS WE
HAVE LITERACY CLERKS OFFENDER
ALCOHOL AND DRUG COUNSELORS
IMPLANT OPS POSITIONS SO WE HAVE
PLUMBERS ELECTRICIANS CARPENTERS
TO THE INCARCERATED PERSONS THEY
COMPLETE A CAREER TECHNICAL
EDUCATION PROGRAM WHICH IS
PRIMARILY IN OUR BUILDING
TRADES. AND TO THEN THEY RECEIVE
AN INDUSTRY RECOGNIZED
CERTIFICATION AT THE END OF THE
PROGRAM THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE
PLACED IN ONE OF THE NEARLY TWO
THOUSAND PLANT OPERATIONS
POSITIONS OR DAY LABOR IN MAY
DAY LABOR POSITIONS THAT WE
HAVE. ACTUALLY GETTING WORK
EXPERIENCE SO THE GRADUATES HAVE
THE SAME KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS
FOR THE TRADE. THAT THEY WOULD
COMPLETE. AN EQUAL TO LIKE A
FIRST YEAR APPRENTICESHIP IN THE
UNION SO THESE ARE THE JOBS THAT
REALLY LEAD TO THE SUCCESS UPON
RELEASE AND SO THESE ARE THE
HIGHER PAID LEVEL JOBS. AS NOTED
BY SECRETARY MCCUMBER DURING A
PREVIOUS HEARING CDCR IS
CURRENTLY DOING A WORK AND PAY
EVALUATION. THIS EVALUATIONS
GOING TO ANALYZE THE NUMBER THE
TYPE THE TIME BASED AND THE PAY
OF THE JOBS WITHIN OUR
INSTITUTIONS. SO FOR EXAMPLE
MANY OF OUR JOBS ARE CONSIDERED
FULL TIME AND ACTUALLY SIX AND A
HALF HOURS A DAY. THIS ACTUALLY
LIMITS THE TIME THAT SEASON
COULD BE INDIVIDUALS CAN BE
PROGRAMMING GOING TO
REHABILITATIVE OR EDUCATION OR
SELF HELP PROGRAMS. SO WE FEEL
IT'S MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO MAYBE
SPLIT THESE JOBS IN CHU CHU
HALFTIME POSITIONS. MAKING A
HIGHER WAGE ALLOWING THE
INDIVIDUAL TO WORK THREE TO FOUR
HOURS A DAY THEN THEY CAN GO AND
THEY COULD TAKE A TWO HOUR
SUBSTANCE ABUSE LIFE SKILLS
PROGRAM THEY CAN THEN THEY CAN
GO TO GET YOU OUR OR- EDUCATION.
TO ON THEIR HIGH SCHOOL AT G. OR
COLLEGE. THERE'S EVEN SELF HELP
PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN ATTEND SO
GOING TO A MORE HALFTIME WORK
MODEL. OR THE SUPPORT POSITIONS
AND THEN REALLY ALLOWING MORE
PROGRAMMING. IS MORE INDENTATION
HABITATIONS- SO THIS IS JUST ONE
COMPONENT THAT WE'RE REVIEWING.
WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THIS
EVALUATION SHOULD BE DONE IN THE
NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. BUT WE'RE
ALSO EVALUATING THE PAPER
CONSERVATION CAMP FIREFIGHTERS.
WE KNOW THE BENEFITS FOR
CONSERVATION KEPT FIREFIGHTERS
THAT THEY BRING TO THE COMMUNITY
WITH WILDLIFE. OF WILDLAND FIRE
RESPONSE RESCUE OPERATIONS.
THERE'S ALSO BENEFITS TO THE
OFFENDER WITH TRAINING
CERTIFICATIONS IN THE ABILITY TO
APPLY FOR STATE FEDERAL AND-
PRIVATE FIRE FIGHTING POSITIONS.
SO THIS IS THE EVALUATION THAT
WE'RE DOING- CURRENTLY WE SHOULD
HAVE THIS DONE IN THE NEXT
COUPLE MONTHS SO. THIS IS A
CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY
TO ANSWER. OKAY FOR IT FOR NOW
WILL GO ON AND THEN COME BACK
FOR QUESTIONS AT THE KING. OKAY
UP NEXT WE HAVE- MICHELLE KANE.
YES. THIS KING I DON'T THINK
YOU'RE- SAN. BUT I'M NOT SURE
ANY RISK IT SHOULD LIVE UP. IN
THAT UP. ITS LEAD THERE WE ARE.
WE'RE HERE TECHNIC DIFFICULTIES
WERE GOOD. A GOOD MORNING SURE
DORADO AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M
- KANE CAL P. I.'S ASSISTANT
GENERAL.
THE SENATE THE ASSEMBLY AS LABOR
HOURS OF THE SECRETARY OF CDC
ARE OVERSEAS ARE BORED OUR
MISSION IS TO PROVIDE
REHABILITATIVE JOB TRAINING TO
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS FOR
SUCCESSFUL REENTRY INTO THE
COMMUNITIES IT'S WE'RE JUST
ABOUT CHANGING LIVES WE ARE
ABOUT REDUCING RECIDIVISM.
THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH
EMPLOYERS UNIONS AND WITH CDC
ARE WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE
REHABILITATIVE JOB TRAINING TO
ALL THE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR
PROGRAMS WITH THE GOAL OUR
NUMBER ONE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE
AN INCARCERATED INDIVIDUAL NEVER
COMES BACK TO PRISON AND HAS A
LIVABLE WAGE WHEN THEY GET OUT.
WE WANT THEM TO PROVIDE FOR
THEMSELVES WE WANT THEM TO
PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES LPI
PROVIDES JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS
INSIDE ALL THE PRISON STATE WIDE
WE PROVIDE ABOUT SIX THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN
HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT BEING
FILLED AT THIS POINT. THERE IS A
WAIT LIST FOR OUR PROGRAMS CALPE
I PARTNERS WITH CDCR IN THE
COMMITTEE REVIEW PROCESS AND
THAT WAIT LIST IS MAINTAINED BY
CDCR. LPI SOME INCREDIBLE
PROGRAMS AND ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS
AND OUR PRICES HAVE INDUSTRY
ACCREDITED CERTIFICATIONS
ATTACHED TO THEM IN ADDITION
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS CAN
EARN MILESTONE COMPLETION
CREDITS UP TO TWELVE WEEKS A
YEAR. SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS
INCLUDE COMPUTER CODING WE
PARTNER WITH THE LAST MILE WE
HAVE AUTO CAD RABBIT AND
INVENTOR WE PARTNER WITH
AUTODESK WE HAVE A DENTAL LAB WE
HAVE OP TO COLLAPSE PARTICIPANTS
CAN EARN CERTIFICATIONS FROM THE
AMERICAN BOARD OF OPTICIAN ARMY.
WHERE THEY CAN BECOME DENTAL
TECHNICIANS THROUGH A
PRODUCTIVELY TRAINING
CORPORATION. WE HAVE A BRAILLE
PROGRAM WHERE WE PARTNER WITH
THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS AND THE
NATIONAL BRAILLE ASSOCIATION. WE
HAVE A COMMERCIAL DIVE PROGRAM
YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM
KENYATTA SOON WE PARTNER WITH
THE ASSOCIATED OF DIVING CONT.
INTERNATIONAL GUYS IN OUR
PROGRAM AT CIM IN CHINO THEY
LEARN UNDERWATER WELDING.
UNDERWATER WELDING IT'S AMAZING
THEY WORK OUT IN THE GULF THEY
WORK OUT IN THE PACIFIC THEY
HAVE SUCCESSFUL CAREERS THEY CAN
GET OUT OF PRISON AND EARN SIX
FIGURES. OUR HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD HFM. THAT IS
VERY SUCCESSFUL WE ARE AT ALL
THE PRISONS STATEWIDE RIGHT NOW.
AND THE GRADUATES GO THROUGH AT
TPC TRAINING PROGRAM. THEY LEARN
HOW TO CLEAN AT A HOSPITAL
LEVEL. WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT
THEY LEARN HOW TO CLEAN BLOOD
BORNE PATHOGENS HAZMAT. THEY
LEARN ALL THE SKILLS THAT THEY
CAN GO OUT AND BE SUCCESSFUL WE
HAVE GUYS WORKING IN HOSPITALS
RIGHT NOW SCRIPTS HOSPITAL. WE
HAVE GUYS WORKING IN DENTAL
OFFICES. WE HAVE WOMEN ACTUALLY
OWNING THEIR OWN CLEANING
BUSINESS. WE HAVE METAL
FABRICATION WELDING. WE HAVE
MANY IN OUR ENTERPRISES LEARN
HOW TO DRIVE A FORKLIFT WE HAVE
GUYS WORKING AT COSTCO HOME
DEPOT THEY LEARNED THAT OVER TEN
FORKLIFT CERTIFICATION THEY GET
THAT CERTIFICATION THEY GET A
JOB IT'S WONDERFUL. WE ALSO HAVE
PRE APPRENTICE PROGRAMS ARE PRE
APPRENTICE PROGRAMS. THEY ARE
AMAZING WE HAVE PRE APPRENTICE
CARPENTRY PRE APPRENTICE
CONSTRUCTION LABOR PRE
APPRENTICE ROUTINE PRE
APPRENTICE IRONWORKING. WITH ALL
OF OUR PRE APPRENTICE PROGRAMS
WE PARTNER WITH THE TRADE UNIONS
. ONCE AN INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE
FROM OUR PROGRAM. WE MAKE SURE
THAT THEY SIGN UP WITH THAT
TRADE UNION. AND WE PAY FOR
THEIR FIRST YEAR OF UNION DUES.
WE ALSO PROVIDE THEIR TOOL BELTS
WE PROVIDE THEM WITH A NEW SET
OF TOOLS SO THEY CAN BE
SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEY LEAVE. WE
HAVE A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY
POSITIONS RIGHT NOW IN OUR PRE
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. AND THE
TOTAL GRADUATES FROM THIS
PROGRAM THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY
SEVEN CENTS TWENTY NINETEEN OF
COURSE THAT WAS WITH KOBE NOW.
NOW IN CALIFORNIA PRISONS
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS CAN
ACHIEVE APPRENTICESHIPS WHILE
WORKING FOR CAL PI IT'S THROUGH
A PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS DIVISION OF
APPRENTICESHIP STANDARDS A. S.
LPI IS ESTABLISH AN
APPRENTICESHIP SYSTEM WITH ALL
SEATS CDCR INSTITUTIONS. EARN A
COMPLETION CERTIFICATE.
APPRENTICES MUST HAVE A MINIMUM
OF TWO THOUSAND EIGHT THOUSAND
JOB RELATED HOURS OF JOB
TRAINING THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE
A HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR HOURS.
OF CURRICULUM. AS OF LAST MONTH
THERE ARE THREE THOUSAND TWO
HUNDRED FIFTY INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS. ACTIVELY REGISTERED
FOR CAL PI STATE APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAM. AND TWO THOUSAND THREE
HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE HAVE BEEN
AWARDED AN APPRENTICESHIP
COMPLETION CERTIFICATE BY D. A.
S. THAT IS INCREDIBLE THEY CAN
PUT THAT ON THEIR RESUME WHEN
THEY GET OUT. EXAMPLES OF SOME
OF THOSE CERTIFICATES INCLUDE
COFFEE ROASTER. MAINTENANCE
MECHANIC WE EVEN HAVE DATA ENTRY
CLERKS THAT GRADUATE WITH THOSE
CERTIFICATIONS. RECIDIVISM STUDY
I WANT TO BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT THE
RECIDIVISM STUDY I THINK IT'S- I
THINK WE PASSED IT OUT RIGHT
BEFOREHAND YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN
FRONT OF YOU. THIS STUDY WAS
COMPLETED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA IRVINE IT SHOWS
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATE IN CAL PIAA THIS IS
THE RECIDIVISM STUDY WE HAVE
FEWER REARREST YOU WERE RE
CONNECTIONS AND LOWER RETURN OF
CUSTODY RATES. THIS STUDY
COMPARED THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED
IN OUR PROGRAMS TO THOSE WHO ARE
QUALIFIED TO BUT DID NOT
PARTICIPATE IN CALIFORNIA CAL PI
WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO A
RECIDIVISM STUDY COMPARING JUST
CDCR TO CAL PIAA. BECAUSE THAT'S
APPLES TO ORANGES WE WANTED TO
SHOW THIS RECIDIVISM STUDY THAT
THERE IS A WAIT LIST THESE
PEOPLE QUALIFY. AND THEN WE CAN
COMPARE THAT THOSE PEOPLE TO
THAT WAIT LIST AND IT WASN'T
JUST TEN TWENTY PEOPLE NOW WE
UTILIZED EIGHT THOUSAND SIX
HUNDRED. FORMALLY INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS UC IRVINE TRACKED
DOWN EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED.
AND WHAT THEY FOUND IS IF THEY
HAVE THIS JOB TRAINING. 15% ONLY
WENT BACK. RETURNED TO CUSTODY.
YES WHAT THAT BIGGER NUMBER
IT'S- 85% 85% WITH JOB TRAINING.
DID NOT COME BACK TO PRISON.
THAT'S HUGE. THE RESULTS SHOWED
THAT PARTICIPATION IN CAL PI IS
ASSOCIATED WITH REDUCE OFFENDING
OVERALL. AND NOW I SPOKE WAY TOO
LONG SO HERE IS AN UPDATE OF OUR
A RE ENTRY PRE RELEASE SUPPORT
AS WELL AS OUR JOINT VENTURE
PROGRAM HERE IS RUSTY BACK TOLD
HE OVERSEES WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT FOR CAL PI. RUSTY
THANK YOU MICHELLE. HERE'S MY
MIKE'S WORKING TODAY AND I'LL BE
PROVIDING SOME INFORMATION ON
SEVERAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
KEY PROJECTS DIRECTLY RELATED TO
CALPE EYES BY VENTURE AND
REENTRY PREPARATION. THE JOINT
VENTURE PROGRAM OTHERWISE KNOWN
AS GDP IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH
CALIFORNIA BUSINESS NONPROFITS
THAT PROVIDE REAL WORLD JOB
OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS MAKING VALUABLE WORK
EXPERIENCE JOB SKILLS AND
TRAINING TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL
REENTRY. THE GDP CURRENTLY HAS
SEVEN ACTIVE BUSINESS OR
NONPROFITS INVOLVED IN THE
PROGRAM THERE ARE FORTY JOB
ASSIGNMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH
THOSE GB PEAS. THE RECENT
COVERED NINETEEN RESTRICTIONS
IMPACTED BUSINESS DECISIONS AND
ACCESS IS TO THE SPACE INSIDE
INSTITUTIONS OF RECENT WHICH
CREATED SOME SLOWDOWN TO THE JVP
GROWTH CURRENTLY. THE BUSINESS
IS A NONPROFIT PARTICIPANTS ARE
JOB AREAS OF ELECTRONICS AND
SIGNATORY PANELS IN CHOWCHILLA
MODULAR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION IN
LANCASTER E. WASTE AND RECYCLING
AND SOLEDAD COMMERCIAL LAUNDRY
IN SOLANO CROPS IN SUSANVILLE
THREE D. KNITTING IN CORONA AND
A VERTICAL HYDROPONIC FARMING
SET TO GO IN CHOWCHILLA. THE G.
P. PLAYERS PAID IN. A VIGIL. A
WAGE COMPARABLE TO WAGES PAID BY
THE EMPLOYER DO NOT INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES ANY SIMILAR
WORK IN THE SIMILAR WORK. NET
PAY DISTRIBUTION IS UNIQUE FOR
JVP INDIVIDUALS AND THE
PROGRAMMER REQUIRED TO PAY
FEDERAL AND STATE TAXES. OF THE
REMAINING PAY IS THEN
DISTRIBUTED TO AS THE FOLLOWING.
HAVE 20% FOR CDC ARE ROOM AND
BOARD PERSONAL ANOTHER 20% FOR
PERSONAL OR LOCAL CRIME VICTIMS
RESTITUTION AND FINES. THREE
THEY CAN PUT 20% FOR FAMILY AND
WAGE GARNISHMENT. NUMBER FOUR.
WHICH IS A BIG ONE IS THIS THE
MANDATORY SAVINGS ACCOUNT OF
TWENTY PERCENT. AND THE FINAL
20% CAN BE USED FOR
INSTITUTIONAL PERSONAL USE.
INDIVIDUAL CAN REENTER THEIR
COMMUNITY WITH AN AVERAGE OF
AROUND SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT
HUNDRED DOLLARS. UPON THEIR
RELEASE FROM THEM FROM THEIR
SAVINGS ACCOUNT. PLUS THEY ALSO
GET THOSE REAL JOB SKILLS TO
CONTINUE WITH MEANINGFUL
EMPLOYMENT. IT'S INCARCERATED
EMPLOYEE PAYS RESTITUTION
REGARDLESS OF THE ORDER NOT SOME
OF THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS GO BACK
TO THE LOCAL CRIME VICTIM
PROGRAMS NEAR THE INSTITUTION.
ANNUALLY THE JVP PROGRAM
INDIVIDUAL PROVIDE AN AVERAGE OF
ABOUT FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS A YEAR TO THOSE CRIME
VICTIM GROUPS IN THOSE AREAS.
SOME OF THE RE ENTRY PREPARATION
AND SUPPORT CAPITA PROVIDES IN
PRE RELEASE. CALPE I DEVELOPED
THE I. E. P. OR OTHERWISE THE
INDUSTRY EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM IN
TWO THOUSAND ONE. TO ENHANCE THE
ABILITY OF CALPE OUR
PARTICIPANTS TO OBTAIN
MEANINGFUL JOB. JOBS UPON
RELEASE THUS REDUCING RECIDIVISM
AND CONTRIBUTING TO SAFER
COMMUNITIES. HAPPY ARE REQUIRES
FACTORY SUPERVISORS TO PREPARE
AND EVALUATE JOB SKILLS
EXPERIENCE EDUCATION WORK HABITS
ACQUIRED BY THESE PARTICIPANTS
ASSIGNED TO THOSE ENTERPRISES.
HELP YOUR WORK ASSIGNMENTS ALLOW
PART PARTICIPANTS THE CHANCE TO
OBTAIN AND APPLY THE SKILLS AND
EXPERIENCE IN A REAL WORK
ENVIRONMENT. JUST MONTHS ALSO
DEVELOP A VALUABLE WORK
PORTFOLIO THAT CAN BE USED BY
THE PAROLE THE PAROLE AGENTS AN
EMPLOYMENT SPECIALIST. FOR THE
JOB PREPARATION AND PLACEMENT
UPON THEIR RELEASE. SOME OF THE
SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT WE WORKING
ON HERE RECENTLY ARE THE CIVIL
SERVICE JOB PLACEMENT. GOV UP
STARTED THE PRISON TO EMPLOYMENT
INITIATIVE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS B.
TWO B. THEY ASK CAL PA TO LEAD
THE INITIATIVE WITH C. D. C. R.
AND OTHER STATE PARTNERS SUCH AS
CALTRANS. THE CALIFORNIA
WORKFORCE DEVELOP OR KELLY CHAR
AND DGS OUR GOAL IS TO OFFER
CIVIL SERVICE THAT IS CIVIL
SERVICE JOBS TO COURSE RATE
INDIVIDUALS. JUST PRIOR TO
RELEASE. WE COMPLETED TO CIVIL
SERVICE HIRING EVENTS- FOR THE
ENTRY LEVEL CALTRANS POSITIONS
AT A MALE AND FEMALE
INSTITUTION. ALL THE
INCARCERATED IS NOT JUST PIAA
WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
THE TEAM HELD TOWN HALLS
EXPLAINING THE PROCESS WE SET UP
COMPUTERS TO TAKE EXAMS AND
APPLY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE
POSITIONS AND THEN CALTRANS
ACTUALLY. WENT INSIDE THE
INSTITUTIONS TO HOLD INTERVIEWS
IN PERSON FOR THE FINAL
SELECTION. THE POSITIVE RESULTS
OBTAINED THE PAST TWO EVENTS
INCLUDED THIRTY CALTRAIN INTENT
TO HIRE LETTERS AND CURRENTLY
FIVE HAVE BEEN RELEASED. AND ARE
CURRENTLY WORKING FULL TIME IN
CALTRANS CIVIL SERVICE POSITIONS
. YOU TO THE SUCCESS OF THESE
PRIOR EVENTS CAL PAY PLANS TO
CONTINUE THESE EVENTS WITH THE
HELP OF OUR PARTNERS AND OTHER
STATE AGENCIES. THIS PROJECT
LEADS TO THE NEXT PART AND I'M
GONNA TALK ABOUT ANYMORE
PERMANENT ONGOING PRE RELEASE
JOB. PLACEMENT OUR ENTRY TO
EMPLOYMENT NETWORK ETV NETWORK
OBJECTIVE OFFERS COPY I
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A CONNECTION
AND OBTAIN EMPLOYMENT PRIOR TO
RELEASE FROM PRISON. COPY I
CONTINUES TO LEAD THE WAY IN
THIS INSTITUTION JOB SEARCH
CAPABILITY I WILL BE THE FIRST
TO OFFER THIS METHOD. OF PRE
EMPLOYMENT CONNECTION. IT IS THE
MUTUAL DESIRE BETWEEN CAL PI AND
THE EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT EDT
TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS TO OBTAIN
PERMANENT EMPLOYMENT. THE TO
READ THAT WORK WILL SHARE AN
EXISTING EIGHTY PLATFORM AND
DATABASE AS WE KNOW IS CALLED
CAL JOB SERVICES. THESE WILL BE
INSIDE THE INSTITUTION AND
AVAILABLE TO THEM PRIOR TO
RELEASE. CAL JOBS AGAIN IS A WEB
BASED JOB ASSISTANCE SYSTEM
OPERATING A SECURE DESKTOP
CONNECTION. AND KIOSK IT IS A
CURE CAL PEER LOCATION. THE
NETWORK WILL PROVIDE
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS ACCESS
TO MOST CAL P. I. JOB TOOLS.
ALONG ALL BOOK WHAT WILL NOT
ALLOW ACCESS TO INTERNET BASED
WEBSITES EMAIL DIRECT MESSAGING
APPLICATIONS. INCARCERATED
VISUAL RECEIVE FULL ACCESS TO
ETT JOBB CAL JOB SYSTEMS AT THE
TIME TO RELEASE. THIS FULL
ACCESS ALLOW A SEAMLESS
TRANSITION TO RECEIVE FURTHER
EDT SERVICES CONNECT TO LOCAL
AMERICAN JOB CENTERS ARE
AGENCIES AND ACCESS TO ALL THEIR
OWN RESUMES AN EMPLOYER CONTACTS
THE DEVELOP. FARTHER IN THEIR
INCARCERATION. COPY I PLANS TO
PILOT THE C. TWO E. NETWORK
PROJECT IN JULY AND ANTICIPATES
TO ROLL OUT THE THIRTEEN
INSTITUTIONS IN THE NEXT FISCAL
YEAR. MY FINAL ARE COMMON HERE
IS GOING TO BE OUR TRANSITION TO
EMPLOYMENT PROP- PROGRAM WHICH
HELPS WITH THE RE ENTRY. ARE
BEFORE THEY'RE RELEASED CALPE
EYES INDUSTRY EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
OR IEP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
EARLIER. DEVELOPED A PROCESS IN
TWENTY TWENTY TWO JUST RECENTLY
TO A LONG EXCEPT LOOK TRONIC LEE
SHARE INCARCERATE INDIVIDUALS
WHAT WE CALL TRANSITION TO
EMPLOYMENT. COPIES EMPLOYMENT
DOCUMENTS THAT I MENTIONED
EARLIER TRAINING CERTIFICATES
APPRENTICESHIPS PRE
APPRENTICESHIPS WORK HISTORY
EXCEPT FOR. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS
. ALLOWS THE REENTRY INDIVIDUAL
AND OUTSIDE SUPPORT TO QUICKLY
NO SKILLS KNOWLEDGE AND
ABILITIES TO HELP FIND THE RIGHT
JOB FOR THE RIGHT PERSON. HAPPY
I STARTED FIRST WITH GDPR'S
DIVISION OF ADULT PAROLE
OPERATIONS- IS DAPPLE IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FOR THE
PILOT. WE PART WITH APPLE AGENTS
IN PROVIDING A MORE SUCCESSFUL
REENTRY PROGRAM IN SERVICES. BY
GETTING THAT INFORMATION IN
THEIR HANDS. WE IMPLEMENTED A
STATEWIDE MODEL IN LATE JANUARY
TWENTY THREE. COPY I LIKE TRONIC
LEE HAS TRANSMITTED OVER SEVENTY
PACKAGES TO DAPPLE AGENTS AGENTS
STATEWIDE IN THE FIRST FOUR
MONTHS OF THIS PROGRAM. THIS
CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I
APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO SHARE
THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU TODAY
THANK YOU. AND CAL PI HAS
HUNDREDS OF SUCCESS STORIES OF
OUR GRADUATES OBTAINING AMAZING
CAREERS WHEN THEY LEAVE PRISON
AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
I'M I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE
HIRE FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND
THE NEXT PERSON IS GOING TO BE
SPEAKING RIGHT NOW IS IT TRUE.
LPI SUCCESS STORY. I CAN YADA
KALI SANA HE PAROLED IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHT AFTER GRADUATING
FROM OUR COMMERCIAL DIVE
PROGRAM. HE WORKS SUCCESSFULLY
IN CALIFORNIA AND THE GULF OF
MEXICO AS A CERTIFIED WELDER AND
A COMMERCIAL DIVER. HELP HE I
HAD AN OPENING LAST YEAR WE HAD
AT OUR SENIOR NAVY CHIEF. AT
RETIRED AND- WE WERE LOOKING FOR
A DIVE INSTRUCTOR AND IT WAS
REALLY HARD TO FIND A DIVE
INSTRUCTOR WHO WANTS TO. TEACH
DIVING INSIDE PRISON. AND
KENYATTA WAS SO SUCCESSFUL ON
THE OUTSIDE AND HE WANTED TO
GIVE BACK TO THIS PROGRAM. WE
HIRED HIM LAST YEAR HE NOW WORKS
FOR PIAA. AYE HE'S DOING GREAT
THINGS GETTING BACK IN IT JUST I
AM SO PROUD THAT. HE'S HERE TO
SPEAK TO YOU. TODAY KENYATTA. GO
AHEAD MR **** THANK YOU CHAIR
ROSALYN SENATORS. ARE YES I.
CAME BACK TO THE PROGRAM- JUST
LAST YEAR AUGUST AND DOCTORS
BEEN HONOR. OUGHT TO COME BACK
AND GIVE BACK TO OUR- WHAT
STARTED ME OUT- IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHT. R. YOU KNOW BUT THE
SKILLS THAT I LEARNED. AS A
COMMERCIAL DIVER AND WILDER- I
WAS ABLE TO- GO OUT AND-
CONTINUE ALL MY EDUCATION
WELDING AND GETTING CERTIFIED.
YOU KNOW I JUST CAME OUT RUNNING
BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO LAW.
GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE I
COULDN'T BE THE BEST LAW
COMMERCIAL DIVER. ALL THAT I
COULD BE. AND I WAS ABLE TO WHY
IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO. FIRST
GET STARTED BECAUSE OF ALL SOME
OF THE HOOPS THAT WE HAVE TO
JUMP THROUGH- DEALING WITH- TWIC
CARDS AND CERTIFICATIONS LIKE
THAT BUT- I WAS SO DETERMINED TO
WALK. CONTINUE AND I WANTED TO
GET WET HAS WHAT WE CALL A
SPLASH DIVE. IT IN THE WATER ARE
BECAUSE YOU KNOW ALL THE ALL THE
BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS THAT WE
PUT THROUGH- IN DIVE SCHOOL ARE
YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO GO TO
WASTE YOU KNOW. ARM AND IT'S A
BROTHERHOOD SOUL ALSO YES I WAS
ABLE TO GO OUT INTO THE GULF
AND- AND SUCCESSIVELY
SUCCESSFULLY. ALL OF START MY
CAREER- AND CONTINUE THE CAREER
OF COMMERCIAL DIVING I WAS ALL I
WAS SUCCESSFUL ENOUGH TO OWN A
HOME BY HOME IN THE GULF WHICH
ARE STILL ON TODAY- IN
MISSISSIPPI. AND OUR WORK HERE-
WITH SOME OF MY- COLLEAGUES IN
AND SOME OF THE GUYS THAT CAME
OUT OF THE PROGRAM- SOME OF THE
STARTED THEIR OWN COMPANIES HERE
ON THE LAW IN CALIFORNIA. AND
IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL TRIANGLE
TO- GET SOME OF THESE GUYS THAT
SAW THAT I'M TEACHING. TO WHAT
CONTINUE THE NETWORK AND- YOU.
KNOW SOME OF THESE GUYS THAT I
WOULD JUST WITH WAS STARTED ON A
COUPLE. ARE IN A ONE A HIGHER US
CHINO HANDS AND- AND WE HAVE A
REPUTATION HERE IN THE GULF WE
HAVE A REPUTATION ARE ON THE
WEST COAST ALL HAS BEEN THE
NITTY GRITTY. DIVERS OF THE
INDUSTRY AND SO WHAT YOU KNOW SO
IT'S JUST SAW. ONE OF THOSE
THINGS THAT IT IS AN HONOR TO
COME BACK AND TEACH- YOU KNOW WE
HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON
WITH LAW. THE CLOSURE OF THE
INSTITUTION AND STUFF LIKE THAT
BUT YOU KNOW IT IT THAT THAT
STUFF DOESN'T DETER US FROM MÀ
KEEPING THE PROGRAM GOING. AND
IT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IT MEANS
TO WALL OF PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF
AND INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS TO
WA GET A SKILL AND THIS IS LIKE
NO OTHER THIS IS. THIS GUILDERS
IS UNIQUE. BECAUSE WHO ELSE
WANTS TO GET INTO THE WATER. AND
HELP BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
BRIDGES AND DAMS AND AN POWER
PLANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT
WE WORK ON- IS VERY DANGEROUS
AND DARK BUT IT'S ALSO EXCITING.
R. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
TAKE TO YOUR FAMILIES AND DAHLE
AND HAVE SOME PRIDE. WITH
YOURSELF AND SUPPORTING THEIR
FAMILIES AND MAKING SOME GOOD
MONEY. ALSO YEAH IT'S JUST ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT THE I JUST.
LOVE OF. COMING TO WORK EVERY
DAY ARE DESPITE EVERY ELSE GOES
ALONG ONE YOU KNOW AND IN
SOMEBODY'S GUYS KNOW. WHEN
YOU'RE IN. IN THAT SITUATION
WHEN YOU GO TO DIVE SCHOOL IT'S
LIKE YOU'RE NOT EVEN. IN PRISON
BECAUSE IT'S JUST SUCH A- UNIQUE
ENVIRONMENT THAT WE WORK IN.
OSSOLA SO YEAH ALL. THANKS FOR
HAVING ME. AND THE- THANK YOU
CAN YADA. THANK YOU YOU CAN BE
THE ASKING HIM QUESTIONS TO DOWN
THE LINE HERE ANOTHER SUCCESS
STORY A BEFORE AT THIS WILL BE
OUR LAST. PRESENTATION HERE IS
THERE A MARIN. AS SHE IS A
GRADUATE OF CAL PIA'S PRE
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AT THE
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTION FOR
WOMEN. AT VERA SHE- HAS A ROCK
STAR SHE'S A MOTHER OF SIX. YES
CLIMBED HER WAY UP THE
CONSTRUCTION LADDER AS WELL AS
THE CARPENTRY LADDER. AS SHE
WENT IMMEDIATELY WORKED FOR
SOUTHWEST CARPENTERS. AND SHE
HAS PROMOTED FROM FOREMAN TO NOW
SHE'S PROJECT ENGINEER FOR NAP
CONSTRUCTION IN ONTARIO SELL.
ADS GIVE ME GREAT PLEASURE TO BE
SITTING NEXT TO VERA SALCEDO BUT
NOW MARIN AND SHE JUST GOT
MARRIED SO WE HAVE TO. WE SWITCH
THE NAY THERE YOU GO. GOOD
MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
OF THE SENATE. THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND TO
SHARE MY STORY- I WAS IN I WAS
INCARCERATED I WAS SENTENCED TO
THIRTEEN YEARS STATE PRISON. AND
WITH THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. I
STARTED WONDERING HOW LIFE WAS
GOING TO BE ONCE I RETURN. AND I
HAD A LOT OF FEARS OF GOING HOME
AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE
SUCCESSFUL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO
HAVE A FUTURE- MY FOR MY FAMILY
. I HEARD ABOUT HELP YA A
CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM AND A TO
CRANK. I HEARD ABOUT HEALTHCARE
CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM AND I KNEW
I HAD TO GET INTO THAT PROGRAM.
I NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS
IMAGINE A WOMAN A FEMALE MEAN ON
THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. BUT
THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I
KNEW I HAD TO TAKE IT I HEARD
THEY WERE FILLING FAMILY. AND I
. THOUGHT THAT WAS MY AVENUE.
THAT WAS MY HOPE. SO I DID
EVERYTHING THAT I COULD GET TO
SEE AYE W. WHERE THE
CONSTRUCTION AND PROGRAM WAS. I
SIGNED UP AND IT TOOK ME A YEAR
TO GET IN. BUT I DIDN'T GIVE UP
I PRAYED HARD AND I SHOWED UP AT
THE GATE EVERY DAY. JUST LIKE
YOU WOULD A REAL JOB. SHOWED UP
AT THE GATE EVERY DAY AND TALK
TO THE SUPERVISOR THERE AND TOLD
HIM THAT I WANTED THE
OPPORTUNITY. I FINALLY GOT INTO
THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE
PROGRAM I TOOK THAT CONSTRUCTION
LABORS AND I TOOK THE
CONSTRUCTION CARPENTRY. YES THAT
I WOULD HAVE MORE CARDS IN MY
POCKET. I REALLY ENJOY THE
PROGRAM I LEARNED SO MUCH AND IT
WASN'T ONLY THE BASIC SKILLS OF.
USING THE TOOLS AND THE
CURRICULUM BUT IT WAS. THE LIFE
SKILLS. THE WORK ETHIC. AND THE
CONFIDENCE THAT I NEEDED. AND I
KNEW WHEN I WAS IN A PROGRAM
THAT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO
WHEN I. WHEN I WENT HOME. I TOLD
MY FAMILY ABOUT IT. MY MOM WAS
ABLE TO BE THERE. MY GRADUATION
CEREMONY. NEVER GRADUATED BEFORE
TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL. SO
IT'S A HUGE. ACHIEVEMENT TO HAVE
MY MOTHER SIT THERE AND TO SEE
ME. TO BE SUCCESSFUL THE
COMPLETE SOMETHING. AND GIVE HER
PEACE OF MIND THAT THINGS ARE
GONNA BE BETTER WHEN I CAME
HOME. SHE WAS TAKING CARE OF MY
JOB MY CHILDREN FOR ME. THOUGH
SHE WAS MY ANGEL. I PROMISED ALL
OF THEM BUT ALSO TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE WHEN I CAME HOME. AND
I DID. WHEN I GOT OUT I
IMMEDIATELY SIGNED UP WITH THE
UNION. THREE MONTHS LATER. I
RECEIVE MY FIRST PHONE CALL THAT
I WAS ACCEPTED INTO A JOB. WITH
THE UNION I SHOW THEM MY
CERTIFICATE THAT I EARN FROM CAL
PIAA. AND I WAS ABLE TO START
OFF AT A HIGHER LEVEL. RESIDENTS
STARTING OFF AT THE BOTTOM. AND
FROM THERE I STARTED WORKING
THREE MONTHS OUT I GOT MY FIRST
JOB AND I HAVE A STOP WORKING
SENSE. I WENT THROUGH MY
APPRENTICESHIP. THANKFULLY I HAD
THE HELP OF THE TOOLS TO SET ME
UP. AND MY FIRST YEAR OF DUES.
CHECK OFF A LOT OF- THE WEIGHT.
THAT- WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO
MAIL TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. AND
THE BOOKS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE
UNION. HELP YOU I'D PICK THAT UP
AND TAKE THAT FOR ME AND THAT
WAS A HUGE WEIGHT. AS I WAS
MONEY THAT I COULD SPEND TOWARDS
MY CHILDREN. AND I COMPLETED MY
APPRENTICESHIP. I MY JOURNEY
MESSAGE YOUR NAME IS CERTIFICATE
. AND I WAS ALSO WORKING AS A
CONCRETE CARPENTER BUILDING HIGH
RISES BUILDING CONCRETE
BUILDINGS- WAREHOUSES. AND THEN
I WENT TO CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT. AND STARTED WORKING
ON- SCHOOLS BUT WE OVERSEE THE
CONSTRUCTION OF SCHOOLS WHEN OF
CONSTRUCTION. AND I STARTED OFF
AS A JOURNEYMAN. I WENT UP TO A
FOREMAN. NOW I'M A PROJECT
ENGINEER WORKING MY WAY UP TO BE
A SUPERINTENDENT. SO I THINK
BACK ALL THE TIME AND I LOVED
BEING ABLE TO COME AND SHARE MY
STORY TO LET OTHER PEOPLE KNOW
THAT IT'S POSSIBLE. AND IT'S
POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE WAS
SOMETHING THERE FOR ME WHEN I
HAD NO HOPE. AND NO VISION OF
THE FUTURE CALPE I CHANGED ALL
THAT FOR ME. THEY WERE THE
FOUNDATION THAT I NEEDED. ANY
ENCOURAGEMENT THAT I NEEDED AND
THE HELP THAT I NEEDED WHEN I
GOT HOME. AND NOW I'M TAKING I
COULD TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY I
COULD TAKE CARE OF MY
GRANDCHILDREN. AND I EARN SIX
FIGURES SO I AM. ABLE TO LIVE A
LIVABLE WAGE. NOT HAVE TO HAVE
THE WORRIES IN THE BURDENS THAT
NORMALLY WOULD COME WITHOUT THAT
HELP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND I TOLD THEM JUST SPEAK FROM
THEIR HEART AND YOU DID NOTICE
WE'RE THE ONES WITH THE NOTES
RIGHT. LOOK AT THEM IT OUT. SO
JUST THANK YOU FOR HEARING
ABOUT. OUR JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS
AND I AM SO GLAD YOU. LET
ALLOWED US TO PROVIDE THIS
INFORMATION BECAUSE- I LOVE
SHARING THIS IS THE BEST PART OF
MY JOB. THIS IS WHY I DO WHAT I
DO. EVERY SINGLE DAY IT'S THE
SUCCESS STORIES. AND I GET TO
SEE AN INTERVIEW AND TALK TO
THE- PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT OUT OF
PRISON. THAT ARE DOING GREAT
THANKS. AND WE NEED TO SHARE
THAT MORE WITH THE POPULATION.
WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE AND
HAVE THAT POSITIVENESS. EDGES
THESE PEOPLE ARE TO SHINING
LIGHTS OF WHAT THE PRISON WITH
WITH THE PRISON SYSTEM IS ALL
ABOUT WE I MEAN THEY THEY DID.
SO ANYHOW I JUST I AM VERY
PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND YOU
CAN TELL. THIS IS MY PURPOSE
THIS IS WHERE I MEAN I HAVE
FOUND IT RIGHT I LEFT
BROADCASTING FOR THIS. AND I
LOVE THIS YOU'RE GOOD BROAD CAN
YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU KNOW
LEFT THE ANCHOR DESK AND I
SOMEHOW ENDED UP IN PRISON BUT
YEAH. I THAT I LOVE I LOVE THIS
THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I
KNOW I CAN SEE ABOVE NINETY OKAY
BUT ANYHOW THANK YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU- THANK YOU VERY MUCH
REALLY APPRECIATE AND NOT ONLY
YOUR PREFERRED EVERYONE'S
PRESENTATION HERE TO GIVE US A
CLEAR PICTURE BUT IN. PARTICULAR
KID GOT A AND VERA. YOU KNOW
YOUR LIFE STORY UP MATTERS
BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S A BUNCH
OF NUMBERS AND WORDS ON REPORTS
THAT A GIVEN HERE- BUT WITHOUT
THE LIFE STORIES IT. IT DOESN'T
NECESSARILY ADD UP TO WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING FOR SO. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
EVERY LEVEL THAT YOU'VE REACHED
IN IN YOUR LIFE. THE SHEIK. OKAY
. MEMBERS WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST
. ENSURED THAT THANK YOU AND
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING
HERE ESPECIALLY. THE GRADUATES
WRITTEN REALLY IMPRESSES AYE I'M
INTRIGUED. BY THE JOINT VENTURE
PROGRAM. WHICH INTERESTING BUT
BUT CLEARLY FAIRLY SMALL. AT A
WWE AND SHOWING TWENTY THREE
TOTAL PETITIONS CRUSHED BY
PROGRAMS THAT. THE CORRECT. YES
YES AND SO I GUESS. TWO
QUESTIONS. HOW DOES A COMPANY.
THE FIRST BECOME AWARE OF THE
JVP- AND THEN HOW HOW WERE THEY
AGAIN HOW'S THAT PROMOTED WITH
THE ON BOARD. SO WE DO WE TAKE
A- A PRIVATE SECTOR APPROACH IN
REGARDS TO THE MARKETING OF THE
JOINT VENTURE PROGRAM. ATTENDING
TRADE CONFERENCES TRADE SHOWS.
OF COLD CALLING REACHING OUT TO
SPECIFIC INDUSTRY THAT WE THINK
WOULD FIT BEHIND. THE WALL THE
INSTITUTION WE TRY TO TAKE SPACE
AND TRY TO MATCH IT UP WITH THE
BUSINESS- SO WE TAKE A-
PRIVATEER MARKETING APPROACH OF
TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION
OUT TO THE PRIVATE BUSINESSES
THE BEST WAY WE CAN ENTER AN
ORDER TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT.
SO WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION
BECAUSE USUALLY AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE THE FIRST TWO SENTENCES
ARE CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTTING A
BUSINESS INSIDE OF AN
INSTITUTION IS VERY AWKWARD.
REGARDS TO THEIR PREMONITION
ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND
HOW THEY WOULD DO THAT SO WE TRY
TO DO A LOT OF- ONE ON ONE
HAVING A CONVERSATION EXPLAINING
THAT BUT- THAT'S HOW WE MARKET
THE PROGRAM. THEN IN THE WHAT
WAS THE SECOND PARTY QUESTION
HOW DO YOU GROW IT AND IT SEEMS
LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF A
CONCEPT BUT YOU THERE IS. ONE
HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND IMAGES
SOMETHING RIGHT NOW SAID HOW CAN
WE HELP YOU. DEVELOP THIS
PROGRAM TO SOME OF A SCALE WHERE
IT'S NOT ONLY. AT SERENA'S
BUSINESSES BUT WHEN YOU KNOW
FIGHTING THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES
FOR GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT
EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR- IMAGE
HAVING SOMETHING JUST LIKE THIS
IS THE BEST THING TO HAVE TO GET
THE WORD OUT. YEAH NOVITIATE
THAT. OUT AND SO WHAT ARE WHAT
ARE YOUR PLANS WHEN WHERE ARE
YOU IN THE IN THE SORT OF THE
DEVELOPMENTS PROGRAMS IT WHAT'S
THAT WHAT'S YOUR CHARACTER
PASSED YOUR GOALS. WELL AS WERE
COMING OUT FINANCED WERE LIMITED
TO THE BY SPACE. AND MATCHING
THE SPACE WITH A BUSINESS LIKE
MOST OF THE THINGS ARE INSIDE
THE INSTITUTION. IS IF SOMEBODY
COMES TO US WITH. YOU KNOW TEN
THOUSAND SQUARE FEET
REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHT
MANUFACTURING THAT'S JUST NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN- BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO PUT THAT
KIND OF BUSINESS. WE HAVE TO
CONVERT SPACES WHAT'S AVAILABLE
WHERE IS THE LOCATION- THAT'S
THE PART THAT- IS THE HARD.
THAT'S THE HARD PART TO TRY TO.
IS TRYING TO MATCH THE BUSINESS
TO A SPACE. WITH MY FIND THE
SPACE BUT IT'S YOU KNOW A FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLAR IT WAS A FIVE.
FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT CLOSET
AND THEY JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING
WITH IT BECAUSE- THAT'S THE
THING WE'VE GOT FOR THEM IN THAT
PARTICULAR SPACE. I MEAN IT'S
GOOD RESEARCH IF YOU HAVE FIVE
CURRENT PARTICIPANTS. WHAT ARE
YOUR WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT ARE YOUR
GOALS HOW MANY. APPLICANTS DID
YOU HAVE TO GET TO THIS FIVE.
WHERE WOULD YOU WANT TO BE IN
SAY TWO YEARS BY WAY OF. A
NUMBER OF PARTNERS NUMBER OF IN
MAY PROJECTS. IF WE WERE TO SET
OUT A GOAL WOULD BE SOMETHING
LIKE. TWENTY BUSINESSES IN TWO
YEARS. WITH APPROXIMATELY YOU
KNOW FIFTY TO A HUNDRED.
PARTICIPANTS IN THAT PROGRAM.
WOULD BE A GOAL THAT WE'VE
ALWAYS BEEN SHOOTING FOR. ALL
RIGHT. SECOND QUESTION RELATES
TO- ONE OF THE- PRODUCTS THAT
CAL PA PRODUCES AYE LET'S. YES
MY GLASSES. AND MY UNDERSTANDING
IS IF YOU'RE THE SOLE SOURCE
PROVIDER FOR MEDIC CAL FUNDED
EYEWEAR. YES AND SO I GOT OUT OF
COMMITTEES RECENTLY WITH WITH.
PRACTITIONERS I AND I UNDERSTAND
THERE'S A BACKLOG. AT FOUR IT'S
NOT TRUE THAT IS NOT TRUE OKAY.
AND I AM I AM I CAN SHOW YOU ALL
THE DATA. OKAY WE'RE RIGHT NOW
ADD WE AVERAGE ABOUT A FOUR
POINT FOR. TURN AROUND TIME. AND
ARE WE DO RATES THE QUALITY OF
OUR PRODUCTS IT'S- LESS THAN ONE
PERCENT. AND THAT IS THE
INDUSTRY STANDARD. THERE WAS A
LITTLE BACKLOG. LIKE OUR
MANUFACTURING ACROSS THE NATION
ACROSS THE WORLD DURING COLD IT.
BUT WE DID WE ACTUALLY HIRED
OUTSIDE LABS TO HELP US WITH
THAT TO MAKE SURE. THERE WAS A
LITTLE BACKLOG BUT WE'RE NOW
BACK TO THAT FOUR POINT FOUR. WE
SHOULD. REMEMBER THAT YOU
CORRECT YES WE CORRECTED IT SO
WE WANT THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE
BECAUSE IT HELPS FOUR HUNDRED
AND TWENTY. INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE OPTICAL
LABS. AND THAT PROGRAM IS CHAU
SOUGHT AFTER. FOR THE
INCARCERATED- BECAUSE THEY LEARN
HOW TO BECOME. AN OPTICIANS THEY
CAN PARTNER WITH THE AMERICAN
BOARD OF ARTISTRY BUT THEY CAN
ALSO LEARN HOW TO BECOME- AND
I'M GOING TO HELP HOPEFULLY
DON'T BUT YOUR THE NAME. UP TO-
OPTICAL TAX. SO WE HAVE GUYS
WORKING AT LENSCRAFTERS WE HAVE
GUYS WORKING SITE FOR SORE EYES
WE HAVE I HAVE THREE GENTLEMAN
WORKING FOR V. S. P. WHERE WE
GET OUR GLASSES- ED NATIONAL
VISION. SO THEY GO ON AND WORK
AT OPTICAL LABS AND THEY CAN
HAVE THOSE SUCCESSFUL CAREERS.
HELLO THANK YOU THANK THANK YOU
SENATOR NINETY I APPRECIATE IT.
THE RECORD WHICH MAKES IT THANK
YOU YES. THANK YOU. CALIFORNIA.
NO I DON'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW.
THE SAME SO I WANT TO GO BACK TO
THE D. A LITTLE BIT OF- FOLLOW
UP ON HIS QUESTION ABOUT. A
YOU'D SAID SOME NOT SPACE AND
THAT MAKES SENSE YOU KNOW IF YOU
HAVE. A IT JUST LIKE IN THE
SCHOOLS WHEN THEY RUN OUT OF
SPACE THE KIDS. THEY HAVE TO
ACCOMMODATE THEM SOMEHOW. AND
THAT ONE OF THOSE WAYS IS
THEY'VE USED MY JEWELERS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. WOULD THAT BE
A HELP A HELPFUL APPROACH TO
TRYING TO CREATE MORE CLASSROOM
AND TRAINING SPACE. ANYBODY AT
C. R. I'LL START THE QUESTION
I'LL TURN OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE-
WORKING- JOHNSON FOR MANY MORE
SPECIFICS ABOUT FULSOME SINCE I
KNOW YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT- SO AS US
SENATE SECRETARIAT SORRY METAL
IN THE CLEAN. TO BE DIRECTOR FOR
CCR- AS SECRETARY MCCUMBER
MENTION IN OUR HEARING- IN EARLY
MARCH AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF DOING THAT
SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT- AS FAR
AS LIKE REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMMING AND THESE TYPES OF A
VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS- SO THAT'S
GOING ON RIGHT NOW STATEWIDE AND
WE'RE HOPING I GUESS THAT IN THE
NEXT. FEW MONTHS FOR THAT TO BE
COMPLETED- AND THAT WILL KIND OF
THE WAITED KIND OF TAKE A- A
BROADER HOLISTIC LOOK ACROSS ALL
INSTITUTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN
WHAT WE NEED- AND IT MAY BE
SPREADING FOLKS OUT IT MAY BE
DOING THOSE KIND OF TARGETED
THINGS BUT THAT'S PART OF THAT
ANALYSIS- AND I WILL TURN IT
OVER TO WHAT JOHNSON TO TALK
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT. THEY KNOW.
WE DID HAVE A CHANCE TO TOUR
THAT AS IDEAS OFF SOME AWESOME
SOME SPACE ISSUES. SO THANK YOU
AND I'M GLAD YOU GOT A CHANCE TO
TOUR BEFORE THE HEARING- SO
PROPOSED A STATE PRISON BECAUSE
WE ARE THE SECOND OLDEST PRISON
IN THE STATE'S AT. THERE IS
DEFINITELY A SPACE ISSUE I MEAN
MICHAEL AS IS WARDEN IS REALLY
TO GET. EVERY OFFENDER INTO A
PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW WE USED.
EVERY CLASSROOM WE CAN GET IT-
YOU KNOW WE'VE EVEN SEEN SEND.
THEM GIANT BECAUSE IT'S THAT WE
CAN CONVERT INTO SOME TYPE OF
PROGRAMMING SPACE. AND WE LOOK
AT PROGRAMMING SPACE FROM AT
SEVEN THIRTY IN THE MORNING
UNTIL ABOUT EIGHT THIRTY AT
NIGHT SO WE ARE PROGRAMMING. ALL
DAY EVERY DAY AND ON THE
WEEKENDS TRYING TO GET THEM INTO
EITHER A REHABILITATIVE PROGRAM
AN EDUCATION PROGRAM. AND WE'VE
GOT DOZENS OF SELF HELP PROGRAMS
SO YOU KNOW IT'S TRYING TO GET
THEM TO PROGRAM AND WORK. ALL
DAY AND TO KEEP THEM YOU KNOW.
FROM REINVENTING SO THAT'S
REALLY THE GOAL. OUR PROBLEM IS
SPACE NOW I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR
EVERY PRISON AND I THINK THE
SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WHICH-
WOULD PROVIDE THAT BUT FOR AN
OLDER INSTITUTION LIKE OURS.
HAVING MODELERS ORIGINAL SPACE
AND IN BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE
MORE REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS
WOULD BE. DEFINITELY BENEFICIAL
. I THANK YOU BECAUSE IT JUST
SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS
PROBABLY ONE OF THIS IS THE
CHIEF. REASON THAT WE HAVE ARE
THE CHIEF RESPONSIBILITY OF.
OUR- SYSTEM EVERY.
REHABILITATION AND GETTING
PEOPLE READY TO RE ENTER. THE
WORKING WORLD AGAIN AND- AND
THAT SO I HAD A QUESTION A
COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS.
OKAY- AT A NEEDS AT. WHERE WOULD
YOU BE. IF YOU HAD NOT BEEN
HADN'T HAD ACCESS TO THESE
PROGRAMS. I SEE A LOT OF. PEOPLE
THAT HAVE RETURNED. RETURN HOME.
AND DIDN'T HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT I HAD IN
THERE DIDN'T TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT I HAD IN
THERE. AND I STILL SEE AN
STRUGGLING. AND I TRY TO GET HIM
INTO THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
OUT HERE. JUST TO GIVE THEM. AN
AVENUE. I REALLY BELIEVE. THAT
IF I DIDN'T HAVE CAL PIAA I
WOULD HAVE THE UPPER. I WOULDN'T
HAVE THE LIFE THAT I HAVE NOW. I
WOULDN'T HAVE THE FUTURE AND THE
CAREER THAT I HAVE NOW FOR SURE
. AND WALDRON NO ONE LIKES TO
BE. INCARCERATED ARRESTED. DO
YOU THINK THAT PROBABLY CHANGED
YOUR LIFE. YES I'VE HELD A LOT
OF PEOPLE I DIDN'T REALIZE THE
PRISON THAT I WAS IN. BEFORE I
GOT ARRESTED. AND I FOUND SO
MUCH FREEDOM. INSIDE OF THE
PRISON. AND I BELIEVE THAT I
WAS. A BETTER PERSON. BASED ON
THE SITUATION THAT I WAS IN. AND
THE OUTCOME. I'M IT'S GONNA COME
SPEND A HARD TO SAY BUT YEAH I
AM VERY GRATEFUL. FOR THE TIME
THAT I HAD TO GET ME OUT OF THE
SITUATION THAT I WAS IN BEFORE
CARS RATIONS. AND JUST CHANGED
MY WHOLE MINDSET AROUND AND MY
WHOLE PERCEPTION ON LIFE. AND
REALLY BUILD ME UP NOT ONLY THAT
HEALTHCARE PROGRAM BUT I SAID
THAT THE LIFE SKILLS. AND I WAS
DETERMINED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
AND MAKE THE PATHWAY NOT ONLY
FOR MYSELF BUT FOR OTHERS THAT
COME BEHIND ME. AND MYSELF OUT
YOU KNOW I SPENT TEN YEARS
SCORED THROUGH A- REVOLVING DOOR
OF. OUR JAILS AND INSTITUTIONS.
HOME I'VE BEEN TO PRISON TWICE
OUT. OF THE OUT FIRST TIME I
WENT TO WALK. FAR CAPSULES AND
BILL. ARM CAME BACK BECAUSE OUT
PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR YEAR AND A
HALF. OFF AND WENT BACK TO
PRISON ARM TRYING TO WHAT I
THOUGHT YOU KNOW A- HUSTLING.
YOU KNOW WHAT I THOUGHT WAS
AWESOME- YOU KNOW THE EASY
MONEY. AND SO WHAT YOU KNOW
THANK AND I CAN SUPPORT MY
DAUGHTER THAT WAY. ARM AND SOUL
- GOING BACK YOU KNOW AND
FINDING OUT ABOUT P. I. A. N. N.
THE DIET PROGRAM. ALL IN ALL
THAT IT HAS TO OFFER A TOTALLY
CHANGE MY VIEW. OF IT ALMOST
LIKE. HOW COME I DIDN'T KNOW
ABOUT THIS SOONER. TYPE TYPE
DEAL AND DOG YOU KNOW SO THAT
THAT'S WHAT. PROPELLED ME TO
WHERE I'M AT TODAY. YOU KNOW IN
EVEN SO I CAME OUT OF WILL YOU
KNOW DECENT I WENT TO COLLEGE I
WENT YOU KNOW I DID ALL THAT
STUFF BUT- YOU KNOW. WE HAVE IN
I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE GETTING INTO
NOW WHILE MITCHELL IS STILL
MENTAL STUFF. GOING ON BUT YOU
KNOW. SOMETIMES WE GET CAUGHT UP
AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS
SO- LEARNING SOME SKILLS WITH MY
HANDS WAS ABLE I WAS ABLE TO
WALK THE FEW DOTS. WELL YOU BOTH
HAVE AMAZING STORIES AND- AND
REALLY SHEDS LIGHT ON THE THINGS
WE CAN DO TO HELP PEOPLE WHO
HAVE MAYBE GONE DOWN THE WRONG
PATH OR IN A SITUATION. THAT IF
THEY ARE DON'T GET THE HELP THEY
NEED- THEY'LL NEVER GET OUT OF.
AND SO THANK YOU. PRECIADO. WELL
I'M SUCCESS STORIES ONE AFTER
ANOTHER- SO I WANNA THANK YOU
ALL AND CONGRATULATE YOU ALL FOR
DOING THAT. I'M JUST A FEW
QUESTIONS BECAUSE I TRY TO
UNDERSTAND ALL THE OF THE
SERVICE AND THE PROGRAM IS. YOU
HAVE THE NON HELD PA AND CAL PA
PROGRAMS RIGHT. AND WHAT ARE THE
DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF JOB
TRAINING AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT.
OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT YOU SEE
. SIR SO WHAT WHAT MAKES THOSE
DIFFERENCES YOU KNOW SO ON THE-
H. THREE ON THE SECOND TABLE IT
TALKS ABOUT THIRTEEN THOUSAND
WHAT THEY CALL INDUSTRY JOBS
HALF OF THOSE ARE ABOUT OUR CAL
PIAA JOBS IN THE OTHER HALF FOR
CDC ARE JOBS. SO OUR OFFICE A
CORRECTIONAL EDUCATION HAS A
LITTLE OVER TWENTY. I'M CAREER
TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAM
SWITCHER WHAT WE STILL CALL THE
CRUCIAL PROGRAMS AND THEY DO A
LOT OF THIS LOT OF SIMILAR
PROGRAMS I DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A
HYDROPONIC. FARMING BUT THERE
ARE THINGS LIKE CARPENTRY-
ELECTRICAL AGE BACK WELDING AND
NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO
FOCUS ON WHERE THE- THE COMPUTER
DRIVEN LIKE A DESKTOP PUBLISHING
AND NETWORK AND CLOUD MANAGEMENT
THINGS LIKE THAT THEY'RE
CONSTANTLY DOING A RE EVALUATION
OF THE PROGRAM'S DETERMINE THE
ONES THAT. HAVE THE HIGHEST
PROFITABILITY WIND DURING
EMPLOYMENT SO WE DO A LOT OF
THOSE- EDUCATION PROGRAMS. IN TO
BUILD INTO PLANT OPERATIONS JOBS
WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET THE
WORK EXPERIENCE AND THEN WHEN
THEY DO- GET RELEASED THEN THEY
CAN WORK WITH THE UNIONS. AND
THEN THE OTHER THING IS THE
FIREFIGHTING JOBS WE HAVE- WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOL
THERE'S THE OFFENDER OF MENTOR
PROGRAM WHICH THEY ACTUALLY
BECOME ALCOHOL AND DRUG
COUNSELORS. SAID IT'S A COUPLE
YOUR PROGRAM AND THEN IT'S A
HIGHER PAID JOB THEY CAN MAKE UP
TO TWO DOLLARS AN HOUR. SO
THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE HIGHER
PAID JOBS AND THAT'S PART OF THE
30% THAT WE TALKED ABOUT- SO
WITH THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
FOCUS ON AND YOU KNOW GAINING
MORE PROGRAMMING. AS WELL AS YOU
KNOW EDUCATION WHICH IS KEY AND
THE REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS TO
GET THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE IN THE
LIFE SKILLS SO. MMHM SENATE.
YOUR QUESTION- YES. AND WE
PARTNER WITH THE TRADE UNIONS.
SO WITH ALL THE UNIONS WE
PARTNER WITH OUR PRE
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS WILL OF
ALSO WITH EMPLOYERS AND WE HAVE
THE AND INDUSTRY EMPLOYMENT
PROGRAM. WHICH IS VERY
SUCCESSFUL IN. CONTACTING AN
EMPLOYER FOR INSTANCE I WILL GET
I GET EMAILS JUST FROM FOLKS
THAT ARE OUT. HEY YOU KNOW I
NEED I NEED HELP WITH THIS THIS
THIS THIS. I SEND THEM TO RUSTY
AND HIS DEPARTMENT AND SO THEY
GET THEM ON THE LIST WITH AN
EMPLOYER THAT'S LOOKING FOR. A
WELDER. OR AT YOU KNOW IN IN THE
PLACE WHERE THEY ARE A-
PAROLEES. OR OR- THEY'VE
RETURNED HOME. SO WE TRY TO GET
THAT. THAT CONNECTION IS SO
IMPORTANT RIGHT. BECAUSE WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A
LIVABLE WAGE WHEN THEY LEAVE
PRISON. AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL
ABOUT. WE DON'T WANT THEM JUST
MAKING MINIMUM WAGE WE WANT THEM
TO HAVE A CAREER. YES YES JOSH
SIX ZERO. IN A ROW TO DO THAT I
THINK. WE HAVE ANY ANALYSIS WE
HAVE A LIST OF A SKILLED
POSITIONS- COMMITTEE ON THE
COMPARATIVE LIKE C. C. R. VERSUS
CAL. WHY WHY WOULDN'T IT BE THE
SAME WHY WOULD WHY WOULDN'T TO
DISCUSS BE THE SAME. TRUST BOTH.
KINDS OF WORK. SO TO SPEAK TO
THAT SO THE FIRST PAY SCALE THAT
YOU SEE IS THE LOWER LEVEL PAY
SCALES THOSE ARE THE EIGHT CENTS
TO THIRTY SEVEN CENTS AN HOUR IN
THOSE OTHER SUPPORT JOBS YEAH
THE SECOND TABLE WHICH IS WHAT
THEY CALL INDUSTRY JOBS. THOSE
FIGURES ACTUALLY ARE HE AYE A
JOBS LIKE HALF OF THOSE ARE P.
I. JOBS HALF OF THOSE ARE CDCR
JOBS REFRIGERATOR AT THIS STAGE
YES OKAY YES AND SO DOES RUN
ANYWHERE FROM FORTY FIVE CENTS.
OF UP TO TWO DOLLARS AN HOUR SO
A FENDER MENTOR AND ARE THOSE AT
TWO DOLLARS AN HOUR A LOT OF
YOUR PLANT OPPOSITIONS RUN ABOUT
SIXTY FIVE CENTS TO A DOLLAR AN
HOUR. A LITERACY MENTORS WHICH
YEAR TUTORS THEY CAN RUN ABOUT
THE SAME SO THIS ACTUAL SCALE
INCLUDES FULL AND CHOI CHOICE AM
AM I READING ROCKETS SO IT'S NOT
TRUE THAT A CAL PA POSITION. IS
THE SAME POSITION PAYS MORE PER
HOUR OR IS IT TRUE. IT DEPENDS
ON THE PART THAT IT DEPENDS ON
THE POSITION I SUIT WITH WITH
SEVEN THIS IS A CONFUSING CHART
OKAY. AB FRAZIER SAID SO IT'S
NOT THERE IT IS NOT BECAUSE
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OR
DISTINCTION BEING MADE. BETWEEN
THE TYPE OF PROGRAM IT. HAS TO
DO WITH THE WORK AND NOT.
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A CDC ARE
SOURCED. JOB OR OR MANAGED.
NETWORK VERSUS CAL PA OR DOES
CAP UP MORE. SOUTH FUNDED
PROGRAM. SO WE DON'T TAKE ANY
MONEY OUT OF THE- GENERAL FUND
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE NOW.
ASSEMBLY QUESTIONS LIKE IF I'M
AN INMATE. AND I ASSUME YOU
PROBABLY WANT ME TO GRAVITATE
TOWARD THESE MORE INNOVATIVE
PROGRAMS. BUT IT IT THAT MIGHT
BE A GOOD REASON BUT IT'S
CHANGED FROM OUR ANALYSIS HERE
IT APPEARS THAT. THE TYPICAL JOB
PAYS MORE. FOR I. CAL P. A.
DECISION THAT IT DOES FOR CITY
SHE OPPOSITION THAT IS THAT
TRUE. NO THERE IS THERE IS.
THERE'S ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT SO
WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD WE
COULD TAKE THIS TABLE AND
ACTUALLY SPLIT HOW MANY OF THOSE
THIRTEEN THOUSAND JOBS RPA AND
HOW MANY YEARS. CDCR SO FOR
EXAMPLE A PLAN OPS JOB AT A LEAD
LEVEL. THEY COULD BE MAKING THIS
PAY LEVEL ONE WHICH IS EIGHTY
CENTS TO A DOLLAR SO ABOUT HALF
OF THE POSITIONS. ANY TO THE
RESERVATION I JUST HAVE A BAD
SHORT. SORRY I APOLOGIZE- SO WE
WERE TRYING TO DO IS WE GROUP
THEM TOGETHER FOR A REASON IS
BECAUSE THEY DO YOU. THEY MAKE
THE SAME THE PLANT OPERATIONS
POSITIONS ARE SIMILAR TO THE
ONES. THAT ARE CALCULATE
POSITIONS AND THEY MAKE THE
SAME. SCALE ARE AND THEN SHE
GETS JUSTICE IS CONFUSING TO US.
IS ONE INSTEAD OF SEIZE YOUR PAY
SCALE ON THE OTHER START. TITLE
COUNTY I A CASE GOES THIS IS A
INCLUDES BALL CAL K. AN INDUSTRY
JOB SO WE PUT OF SHOULD PUT A
PROBABLY. HELPFUL TO PUT A CDCR
INDUSTRY JOBS- THAT'S A JOURNEY
. YES MEAN BY IN. IN JOHN YEAH.
IT SHOULD SO YEAH MY- END JUST
FOR REFERENCE WE HAD A BUDGET
CHANGE PROPOSAL- IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN THAT CHANGE
THE PAY SCALE FOR PLANT
OPERATIONS POSITIONS TO BE. A
BIG THE PAY SCALES- SIMILAR TO
THE CAL PA. BUT THAT THERE IS A
THE GOAL IS ACTUALLY YES. I
PROVIDED IT IS NOT YET THAT IS
NOT YET. WORK ITSELF OUT AS A-
YES THEY HAVE YEAH I'VE BEEN
THIS IS VERY CONFUSING CHARTS.
NO AND WE CAN WORK THE CONSOLE
AGAIN IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU
KNOW I IT. JUST OTHER CHANGE
RELATIVE IT. CONVERSATION I
THOUGHT WE WERE ABOUT ONE SAID
JOBS FOR. THE OTHER. YEAH YEAH.
WE'RE NOT. THIS IS STILL AT A
FOR SICKENING. I WOULDN'T IT
JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON. OF
THE PAY SCALES THERE- THE AND
THE TOP ONE IS. ALL CDCR YES THE
TOP CHARTS. YES IT'S ALL CDCR.
J. IT'S EVEN CONFUSED IT DOES.
MUCH MORE THAN. DID YOU CATCH
THE- AND SO. WITH THOSE- PLUS
SOME OTHER NUMBER. IN THE LOWER
CHART OR CDC ARE. FROM THE VAST
MAJORITY WELL AT LEAST. OVER
HALF. ARE IN THE IN THE LOWEST
PAID RIGHT EIGHT CENTS TO
THIRTEEN CENTS PER HOUR CORRECT
OKAY. AND AND THEN IF YOU TAKE
THE OTHER TWO AT EIGHT THOUSAND
EACH. THOSE ARE. ELEVEN ON THE
LOW END TO TWENTY FOUR CENTS SO
ANYWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT AND
TWENTY FOUR CENTS AN HOUR IS THE
- PRETTY MUCH THE VAST MAJORITY
OF THE CDC ARE JOB. I HAVE AS
WELL AS GRADUATE SHOULD THE BID
THAT THIRTEEN THOUSAND IN THIS
CHART IS A SUBSET OF THE FORTY
FOUR THOUSAND IN THIS CHART IS
THAT CORRECT. WHERE THEY ARE IN
A POSITION IN ADDITION TO ITS IN
ADDITION TO SO I NEED A BETTER
SURE. YEAH WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE
SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THE
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS LIKE
FOR A JOB LEVEL FIVE- I THINK
THIS CHART ACTUALLY INCLUDE SOME
NON PAPER JOBS IN HERE BUT THAT
THE LEVEL FIVE THOSE ARE YOUR-
IN MAKE. ORDERS IS THAT WE CALL
IN THE HOUSING UNITS TO DO THE
CLEANING- THEY COULD BE A DINING
ROOM WORKER WORKING IN THE YARD
SO IT'S IT SURE VERY LOWEST
LEVEL A LEVEL FOUR WOULD BE
SOMEBODY LIKE A- AND THEY WANT
TO WORK UP INTO A HIGHER LEVEL
JOB AND THEN GET THEMSELVES INTO
A PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN GET
INTO. AN INDUSTRY JOB. OKAY I
SAID NEXT TIME WE HAVE A CLEAR
SET OF DATA. AND AND SO IN TERMS
OF THE WAGE SCALE HOW DO YOU
DETERMINE THE WAGE SCALE AND HOW
DO YOU DECIDE OR WHO DECIDES HOW
DOES THIS WEIGHT SCALE. OF THIS
TO GET ADJUSTED IS THERE ARE.
ROUTINE SORT OF WAY OF ADJUSTING
IT OR- SO THE ONLY MORE ABOUT
HOW YOU END UP THERE AND- HOW IT
CAN BE. SO IT IS BASED ON THE
ACTUAL POSITION AND IT'S BUILT
ON THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR- OKAY
I THINK IT'S OCCUPATIONAL
TRANSPORT AT. AT I CAN'T REMEDY
IF THEY CALL IT DOT BUT IT'S FAR
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
STANDARDS AND SO THEY DO THE
ANALYSIS BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT
LABOR STANDARDS. AND THAT'S WHAT
BUILDS INTO EACH ONE OF THESE
CATEGORIES BUT WHETHER IT'S A
LABOR OR IF IT'S A LEAN PERCENT.
BASED ON THAT POSITION AND THEY
WOULD PUT IT INTO A SPECIFIC
CATEGORY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE
CLASSIFICATION AS FAR AS THE
CLOSE NOT THE MONTH NOT THE
AMOUNT NOT THE WEIGHT THE WEIGHT
IS BEEN BUILT INTO OUR
REGULATIONS FOR. YOU HAVE
ANOTHER QUESTION OKAY IT'S YOU
IT'S RIGHT THEN THEN SENATE
SANTIAGO I'M SORRY LICENSURE. SO
THE EIGHT CENTS AN HOUR IS THAT
IS THE LOWEST LEVEL PAID FOR AT
LEVEL FIVE LABOR. WHERE DID THAT
COME BY Y. Y. EIGHT CENTS VERSUS
TWENTY CENTS THIRTY CENTS
INTRUDER FOR INFLATION RIGHT
WHAT WHY THAT NUMBER ESPECIALLY
WHEN LOTS YOU KNOW EDUCATE IS TO
GIVE A PORTION OF WHATEVER MONEY
IS EARNED OVER TIME. RESTITUTION
LIKE WHY EIGHT CENTS. THAT WAS
THE AMOUNT THAT WAS DETERMINED
AGAIN IT WAS A PART OF OUR
REGULATIONS THAT WERE. THAT WENT
OUT AND SO THAT'S- OUR STANDARD
RIGHT NOW- IT'S OF FUND WE ARE
FUNDED. OR THE JOBS THROUGH AN
ANNUAL UP YOUR ANNUAL POPULATION
ADJUSTMENT SO THERE'S THIS BASE
AMOUNT THAT'S BUILT IN FOR
EVERY. INCARCERATED PERSON FOR
IT FOR THIS PEDRO THAT'S BASED
ON FUNDS AVAILABLE AND HOW THOSE
ARE DISTRIBUTED AS OPPOSED TO. A
COUNTY FOR INFLATION OVER TIME
FLINTSTONE CORPORATE COST YEAH
THAT'S- WHAT WE CALL THE
UNALLOCATED RATE OR THE- THE
ADJUSTMENT IS BASICALLY THAT THE
COST TO. BASICALLY HOUSE AND
FEED- INCARCERATED PERSON AND
FOR THE JOB SO YES IT HAS
REMAINED STATIC AND THAT'S WHAT.
WE'RE JOHNSON WAS TALKING ABOUT
EARLIER IS THAT WAGE- REVIEW
THAT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IT IS
KIND OF REASSESSING AND- THE ALL
THE DIFFERENT JOB TYPES. I'M
LIKE IT'S AT LIKE SHE MENTIONED
THAT LIKE 70% OF THE JOBS ARE IN
THE SLOWER YOU KNOW EIGHT TO
THIRTY SEVEN SAID CATEGORY- AND
MOST OF THEM ARE FULL TIME JOB
SO. MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO
INSTEAD OF HAVING. FIFTY
THOUSAND FULL TIME JOBS TO HAVE
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND OF TIME
JOBS AT DOUBLE THE PACE SO THAT
THEY CAN. OR MAYBE IT MAKES
SENSE TO TRUST YOUR VOLUME A
MORE MONEY SO THOSE JOBS-
MEANINGFUL THIS VERSION BY WAY
OF INCENTIVES WHICH- GO AHEAD
SIR SHARED WITH. THE SHIP. THANK
YOU. IT IS THE GOAL. OF THE
PROGRAM TO GET. ARE PEOPLE THAT
ARE. TRAINED AND READY TO GO OUT
INTO THE WORLD. OR TO FOCUS ON
HOW MUCH MONEY PER HOUR YOU
MAKE. IS IT SEEMS TO ME ALONG
THE TIME LINES OF WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING. IS IF THAT MONEY IS MORE
CONCENTRATED IN OTHER WORDS YOU
RAISE UP TO THE WAGES. YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO CREATE A- LIVING
WAGE SITUATION IN AN
INCARCERATED ENVIRONMENT. BUT
MADE CLEAR THAT HE CAN'T I'M
SURE I'M NOT I'M NOT. A GOOD I
HAVE THE FLOOR THANK YOU- AND SO
WHAT I'M WHAT I WOULD LIKE T. H.
YOU KNOW KIND OF. ASK YOU IS SO-
IF THEY RAISED UP THEIR WAGES
WHAT HAPPENS TO ACCESS. TO
PROGRAMS. OR THE OTHER
INDIVIDUALS. BECAUSE I MEAN FOR
THE PRISON POPULATION. BECAUSE
IF THAT'S THE TRADE OFF I'LL
TAKE MORE ACCESS. FOR THAT
UNLESS AS MY COLLEAGUE WAS
STAYING. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT
- INVESTMENT BY THE STATE. TO
CREATE MORE WAGES. AND I'M NOT
SURE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH
THAT. BEYOND WHAT WE'RE DOING
WITH IT NOW. I CAN TRY TO ANSWER
YES IT IS THAT DEFINITELY FROM A
BROADER PERSPECTIVE SO WE WANT
TO BE COGNIZANT OF GENERAL FUND
RESOURCES AND SO. AT THE SAME
TIME WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE OFFENDERS MAXIMUM
OPPORTUNITIES AND SO THAT'S
AGAIN I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE
THAT OUR CURRENT. NUMBER OF JOBS
THE MAKE UP AND TYPE OF JOBS
THAT WE HAVE MADE DOESN'T THAT'S
BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS AND YEARS
YEARS AND THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE NOW IN THIS CHANGE
THE WORLD WHERE WE MORE FOCUSED
ON REHABILITATION. AND SO WHAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT IS YES WE'RE
RECOGNIZING THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T
CHANGED BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO
BE COGNIZANT OF GENERAL FUND
RESOURCES AND PROVIDING
OFFENDERS OPPORTUNITIES TO. DO
BOTH. IF YOU THINK OF IT AS YOU
KNOW MANAGING A LIFESTYLE WHEN
YOU GET OUT OF AN INSTITUTION
YOU HAVE TO GET UP IN THE
MORNING YOU HAVE TO GO TO WORK
MAYBE GO TO SCHOOL AT NIGHT AND
SO IT'S- IT'S THAT. BRING YOUR
BROADER LOOK IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS
THE WAGE WILL BE RECOGNIZED AT
THE WE JUST HAVEN'T CHANGED. IN
SEVERAL YEARS THAT'S KIND OF.
THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO TAKE THANK YOU AND CAL
PI. YEAH THE ANY THOUGHTS ON
THAT. YEAH PRETTY MUCH COVERED
SHE'S COVERED BOARD UP YEAH ELSE
WE'RE GOOD WERE CUT OFF SO WE
CAN ENSURE SURE I ANSWERED IN
REVIEW BUT BUT I DO THINK.
THERE'S A CONNOISSEUR THE
CHANGING SO IT ONE OF THE
WITNESSES ACTUALLY MENTION. THE
SORT OF THE DUAL CHALLENGE FOR
THE EFFORT YEAH THE INMATES. A
CONSIDERATION OF PROGRAMMING
VERSUS WORK. HEY IT'S YOU KNOW
IT'S ANSWER CLEARLY OF THE YOU
KNOW THERE'S A QUESTION HERE
ABOUT. MOTIVATION OR
DIGITIZATION AND HOW WHAT YOU
KNOW WHAT'S THE RIGHT LEVEL OF
INSTEAD OF INCENTIVES. NOT
REALLY ABOUT WAGES PER SE ABOUT
IN IN YOU KNOW MOTIVATING.
INMATES DID TO GO DO WORK TO
GAIN THE SKILLS VERSUS. IN THE
PERCEPTION THAT MAY BE A BETTER
USE OF THEIR TIME WOULD BE
PROGRAMMING THAT GETS THEM. A.
N. ASSOCIATES DEGREE OR YOU KNOW
TRAIN FOR SOMETHING ELSE THEY
MIGHT BE LATER. JUST SO THAT
SHOW. BUT ALSO WITHIN THAT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS. RESTITUTION
HEY YOU KNOW SO YOU KNOW THAT IS
THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF
RESTITUTION FUNDS. FOR AN
INMATE. AT WHICH MUST BE A
POWERFUL MOTIVATING FACTOR. I
AND I WOULD I WOULD THINK AT THE
LOWEST LEVEL. ISSUES AND THAT'S
A LOT OF WORK FOR SOMETHING ELSE
YOU COULD DO VERSUS. AT A
SLIGHTLY HIGHER LEVEL ARE YOU
GONNA START MAKING A DENT ON
YOUR RESTITUTION OBLIGATION TO
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE PROBABLY
RELEVANT. I ENDED TO YOUR POINT
I DO I DO RESPECT. YOU KNOW THAN
THE DESIRE NOT TO IMPACT THE
GERMANS BUT FROM OUR POINT OF
VIEW. I THINK THESE ARE
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. I AND I DO
YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY IN THIS
INSTANCE DON'T YOU SHOULDN'T
WORRY ABOUT THAT YOU KNOW WHICH
IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT OF SUBCOMMITTEE HEARS. WHAT
ARE THE RIGHT. YOU KNOW SURE
BALANCES AROUND OCCASIONS
THEY'RE ACTUALLY SINCE YOU KNOW
SATISFY NOT ONLY YOUR PROGRAM
NEEDS. TO GET A LARGER QUESTION
BUT HOW DO WE POSITION. INMATES
TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES.
DURING THAT TIME. BEHIND BARS.
THANK YOU. I'M I'M- STILL NOT
QUITE SURE. IN TERMS HOW THE
WAGES. ARE DUE. AND THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE SAID AND YOU SAID CAL
PA IS SOMEWHAT. INDEPENDENT OR
BECAUSE I INDEPENDENT GENERAL
BOARD. SOMEWHAT SOME LEVEL OF
DECISION MAKING IS YOURS. ALONE
SO. HOW DO WE GET AT THIS ISSUE
I THINK THAT. AND I SHOULD BE
SPEAKING MAYBE WE OUGHT TO HAVE.
OUR GRADUATES- HERE. A SPEAK.
OUR AND TWENTY PERCENT. IS C. D.
C. R. R. TO ROOM. I REMEMBER OR
20% TO REST IT. IS THAT WAS NOT
RIGHT. SORRY IT'S AT 50% TO
RESTITUTION MAYBE. THEY DON'T.
HE REMAINS HE- REMEMBER
RESTITUTION YES 50% THE PERSON
WITH THE JOINT VENTURE OKAY SO
50% GOES TO RESTITUTION. AND
THEN. WHAT PERCENTAGE GOES TO
RUMOR ORDER I DON'T REMEMBER
OKAY CORRECT THAT THE BALANCE IS
FOR THEM TO USE FOR THINGS LIKE
CANTEEN PURCHASES ARE. WHATEVER
THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT
OTHER TRUST ACCOUNT. AND SO AND
THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU
KNOW GET PAID FROM ANY. ANY
DEPOSITS IN THE TRUST ACCOUNT
LIKE IF THEY HAVE A DAMAGED ITEM
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT
GENERALLY RESTITUTION IS THE
NUMBER ASSERTION CHILD SUPPORT
OF THE NUMBER ONE. NUMBER ONE
AND TWO THINGS AND THE AND THE
SERVICES OR THE PRODUCTS THAT
ARE. MADE RIGHT. THERE ARE SOLD
TO OR THEY'RE MADE FOR THE
STATE. YEAH YOU GIVE SOME
EXAMPLES OF THAT- SOME OF THE
EXAMPLES SAYS STATE HOSPITALS S.
C. H. P. WE WORK WITH CALTRANS.
DMB AB AND C. LOS WE ARE TO DO
WHAT. YOU WORK WITH THEM TO DO
WHAT WE DO FOR THEM. SO WE
PROVIDE THE GOODS AND SERVICE
SOME OF THE GOODS AND SERVICES
AND ONLY TO SEE DEAD GOVERNMENT
ENTITIES WE DON'T DO PRIVATE
SECTOR OKAY SO WE'RE NOT PRIVATE
PRISON INDUSTRY DOES THAT MAKE
SENSE WHERE DOT CA DOT GOV. AS
WELL CAN GIVE EACH OF OUR OLD
CHURCH. YES BEFORE YES HE SAYS
HE WANTS THE BIG BROWN SHARE
THAT YOU HAD THE ANDREAS IT WAS
A CAL PI A. N. CARPA. MADE THE
CHAIR AND THEN WE HAVE
UPHOLSTERED. AT YES AND WE HAVE
THAT- AS I HAVE A GENTLEMAN
WORKING DOWN THE CALIFORNIA
CHAIR DOWN IN VENTURA AND HE'S-
YOU KNOW AND A POSTER. SO HE
LEARNED THAT SKILL. IN THE
FURNITURE OPERATION MYSKINA IS
IT TRUE THAT THEY'RE STILL THE
CALCULATE CATALOG. YES SO THE
STATE DEPARTMENT'S EVERY STATE
DEPARTMENT CAN PULL UP THE CAL
PA A CATALOG AND PURCHASE THINGS
LIKE BINDERS CHAIRS DESKS
EXACTLY ALL THAT STUFF IS AND- I
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALL OF
OUR JOBS HAVE INDUSTRY
ACCREDITED CERTIFICATIONS
ATTACHED TO THEM. SO THAT IS
HUGE SO EVEN A YEAR SOMEBODY IN
METAL FAB- THERE THAT YOU KNOW
LICENSE PLATES WHAT ARE THEY
LEARNING THEY'RE LEARNING THEY
GET THE OVER TEN FORKLIFT
CERTIFICATION THAT I MENTIONED
THERE'S A LOT OF CERTIFICATIONS
HEAVY MACHINERY OPERATOR. OF SO
THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO WORK WITH
MACHINES THEY CAN WORK WITH
THEIR HANDS- I SEE A LOT OF OUR
JOBS ARE THAT THE TRADES. AS
THAT YOU'VE SEEN KIND OF
DIMINISH IN THAT THE SCHOOLS AND
THE. EDUCATION SYSTEM. THAT YOU
SEE THOSE TRADES AND THOSE TRADE
OF SOMEONE BECAUSE EVERYBODY
GOING TO WANT GO TO CALL. RIGHT
YEAH MY HUSBAND AND GO TO
COLLEGE BUT I DID BUT YOU KNOW
WHAT I MEAN NOT EVERYBODY BUT-
THAT THAT THAT THAT'S THE JOB
TRAINING THE REHABILITATIVE JOB
TRAINING THAT WE PROVIDE. THEM
WELL FIRST AND FOREMOST. THE
FACT THAT THAT WE'RE CREATING
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN THE
SKILLS IS. I THINK HAVE THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES BEFOREHAND AND
AVAILABLE AB. RIGHT ARM SOME
FOLKS MIGHT NOT HAVE ENDED UP IN
IN PRISON- BUT ONCE THEY'RE
THERE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
DO THAT. YES I'M JUST TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND THE- FINANCES BEHIND
ALL OF THIS. AND YOU KNOW. YOU
SELL TO YOU SELL THE PRODUCTS
BACK TO THE STATE. AND SO.
THAT'S A GOOD THING YEAH GET
THAT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT SELLING
THEM FOR PROFIT OUT THERE- BUT
THIS. SINCE SINCE THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE CDC
ARE ARE AT SUCH A LOW LEVEL I'M
TRYING TO SEE. WHAT CAN BE DONE.
TO INCREASE THOSE WAGES SO THAT
THERE IS MORE INCENTIVE THERE IS
MORE OF A SENSE OF. YOU KNOW I'M
GETTING PAID MORE I HAVE MORE TO
LOOK FORWARD TO I'M NOT GOING TO
BE HERE AT EIGHT SENSE. OF THE
WHOLE TIME THAT I'M
INCARCERATED- AND YOU KNOW IF
IT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS
RESTITUTION OR FAMILY OR A FUND
US SAVINGS THAT'S ALSO AN
INCENTIVE. AND IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT'S SHOULD BE PART OF BUT I
STILL DON'T AND MAYBE WILL
ANSWER IT ALL RIGHT HERE IF YOU
HAVE A- SEMI SHORT ANSWER TO
THAT OTHERWISE I WOULD REALLY
APPRECIATE IT YOU KNOW. THAT
DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF ALL THE
FINANCES UNDERSTATEMENT LET ME
SEE IF I CAN TRY IT TRY IT AGAIN
A DIFFERENT WAY- SO YES YOU SEE
OUR SETS THE- THE HOURLY RATE
AND THAT'S THERE ARE REGULATIONS
PROCESS BUT THAT'S ALSO GOVERNED
BY. HOW MUCH FUNDING RECEIPT WE
RECEIVE HER INCARCERATED PERSON
OKAY SO DO OUR ANNUAL POPULATION
. ADJUSTMENT WE RECEIVED YOU
KNOW. TWENTY DOLLARS PER PERSON
AND THAT COVERS LIKE FOOD AND
YOU KNOW IT'S ACTUALLY SEVENTY
SIX I SHOULD USE TWENTY- YOU
LIKE YOUR FOOD AND- CLOTHING
AND- AND PAYMENT FOR JOBS. SO IT
IT'S COVERED BY BOTH THINGS TO
THE CITY THE- THE RATE IS SET BY
CDCR WHICH IS GOVERNED BY HOW
MUCH. FUNDING WE RECEIVE HER
INCARCERATED PERSON OR THAT.
SERVICE SO I AGAIN I DEFINITELY
APPRECIATE. YOUR COMMENTS
BECAUSE IT IS DEFINITELY AN
ISSUE AND I THINK WE'VE
DEFINITELY KNOWLEDGE THIS WITH
INFLATION AND THE COST OF GOODS
AND THE COST OF SERVICES
INCREASING THROUGHOUT THE STATE
I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THAT
ANYWAY. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT
THE RATE THE WAGE THAT THAT IS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BUT WE'RE
ALSO TAKING A DEEPER LEVEL LOOK
AT. MISS JOHNSON MENTIONED IS
THAT. WHAT IS WHAT BENEFITS THE
INCARCERATED PERSON THE MOST
RIGHT WHAT'S THE END AND WE'RE
WORKING WITH IN THE FAMILY
COUNCIL AND TRYING TO GET THERE
ARE SENSE AND IDEAS. AS WELL
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THIS IN A
VACUUM- AND SO. YES IS IT MAYBE
WORKING A FEW LESS HOURS BUT
MAKING A HIGHER RATE SO THAT YOU
CAN. GO TO MENTAL HEALTH
PROGRAMS AND YOU EDUCATION- SO
THAT YOU NEED THOSE SKILLS
BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE ON TO A- A
PLANT OPERATIONS TYPE POSITION
TO GET. THAT HIGHER LEVEL
CERTIFICATION TO EITHER GO INTO
A PLAN OPPOSITION OR CALCULATE
POSITION FOR THAT JOB
CERTIFICATION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE
THAT BASE LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND
REHABILITATION FIRST. SO THAT'S
THAT'S KIND OF THAT BIGGER
BROADER HOLISTIC LOOK. WE'RE
TAKING AT JOBS AND WAGES. THAT
THAT HELP A LITTLE BIT. YEAH
THANK YOU- AND THEN TWO LAST
QUESTIONS ONE IS- WITH REGARDS
TO. ALL THE JOBS IS THERE.
ALREADY OR A WAY TO GET. AS YOU
MENTIONED THE CERTIFICATION. YOU
KNOW IT MAY NOT BE FOR. THE
LEVEL OF CARPENTRY OR BEING THE
A DIVER- BUT MANY OF THESE OTHER
JOBS SINCE SINCE THE
OVERWHELMING NUMBER ARE NOT IN
THE MORE SPECIALIZED AREAS. IS
THEIR WAY OF GETTING SOME
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT CERTIFICATION IN
. THAT SENSE OF CERTIFICATION IF
YOU IF YOU'RE OUT THE- OF LATE
LEVEL OR TECHNICIAN LEVEL.
BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S
ALSO PART OF THE INCENTIVE YOU
HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW. FOR YOUR
WORK AND THAT YOUR WORK SHOULD
BE ACKNOWLEDGED IN SOME WAY
EITHER THE NUMBER OF HOURS OF
WHAT YOU DID. DID DOES EVERYBODY
GET SOME VERSION OF A
CERTIFICATION. AT NO THEY DON'T
GET A CERTIFICATION BUT THEY DO
GET THAT EXPERIENCE AND BE- IT'S
ALL IT TO REAL ATTEMPT TO MESS
ABOUT- NEAR KIND OF WILL WORK
ACTIVITIES SO IT'S WHEN YOU'RE
IN AN INSTITUTION IN YOUR
WORKING. YOU HAVE TO BALANCE.
YOUR TIME RIGHT YOU HAVE TO YOU
HAVE TO SAY OKAY I'M GONNA WORK
YOU KNOW SO MANY HOURS IN THE
MORNING AND YOU'RE STILL
LEARNING A SKILL I GET. I GET
BEING A JOB LEVEL FIVE LABOR
WHERE YOU'RE CLEANING A DINER
IT'S STILL A SKILL THAT IS
TRANSFERABLE ON THE OUTSIDE YOU
COULD GO ON A BUS. YOU KNOW WAIT
PERSON ARE AT YOU KNOW CLEANING
THE TABLE AT A RESTAURANT THAT'S
STILL A SKILL YOU'RE LEARNING
WHAT MAY NOT BE CERTIFIED. IT'S
STILL- SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE
WORKING TOWARDS AND IT ALLOWS
THEM TO WORK UP THE LADDER TO
OKAY I'M GONNA START. EMPTYING
THE TRASH AND THEN MAYBE I'M
GONNA MOVE ON TO THIS AS I GET
MORE EXPERIENCE AND I COMPLETE
MY EDUCATION A REHABILITATIVE.
PROGRAMMING READ IN THOSE THINGS
GO HAND IN HAND I THINK IT'S AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STARS
REALLY TRYING TO DO IT. AGAIN
LOOK AT ALL OF THE PIECES IN
TOTALITY AND NOT JUST. ISOLATE
BECAUSE- TO BE SUCCESSFUL ON THE
OUT YOU HAVE TO BALANCE ALL OF.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE
SKILLS SO I DON'T KNOW THAT
THERE IS SORT OF OCCASIONS I
MEAN WE COULD DEFINITELY. TAKE A
LOOK TO SEE IF THERE IS I DON'T
WANT TO DISCOUNT IT OR BITE WELL
THE REASON I SAY THAT BECAUSE-
ESPECIALLY IN THE TIME OF
COALBED AND- OTHERS. CLEANING ON
THEIR SPECIALIZED CLEANING- YOU
KNOW IT'S SUCH A DURABLE LEVEL
FOR CAL PA I'M SORRY ALL OF OUR
AREAS HAVE A CERTIFICATION
ATTACHED TO EVERYONE OF THEIR
JOBS SO. DEPENDING UPON THEIR
LEVEL OBVIOUSLY IS THE LEVEL
THEIR CERTIFICATION BUT- WE HAVE
HUNDREDS OF CERTIFICATIONS FROM
GENERAL FOOD HANDLING ALL THE
WAY UP TO A CERTIFIED WELDER. SO
DEPENDING UPON WHAT JOB LEVEL
THEY'RE AT WE DO OFFER- A
CERTIFICATION AT BASIC LEVEL
WITH THE HIGH LEVEL FOR ANY OF
OUR P. I. FACTORIES AND
ENTERPRISES. RIGHT WEEKS. DO
THAT CDCR. AND I'M JUST FINE
QUESTION FOR. OUR OUR OUR-
SPECIAL GUESTS UP THERE ON IN
THE- NOT A- IS THERE ANY
SPECIFIC THING THAT YOU WOULD
SAY WITH REGARDS TO ALL THAT
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THAT YOU
THINK. COULD HAVE BEEN DONE
DIFFERENTLY TO HELP YOU.
ANYTHING THAT WOULD OF. THIS
HELP YOU BETTER ESPECIALLY WITH
REGARDS TO THIS. THE TRAINING
AND WHAT LED TO YOUR- BEING SO
SUCCESSFUL. AFTER YOUR RELEASE.
YOU KNOW COMING BACK INTO WHILE.
THE PRISON AND TEACHING IN SAN
WHAT ARE. INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING
THROUGH ALL THAT GET RELEASE
COMING OUT OF THE PROGRAM- YOU
KNOW IT IT SAW. THERE'S STILL
SOME HOOPS THAT THEY HAVE TO
JUMP THROUGH AND- THE RE ENTRY
PROGRAMS. ARE YOU YOU KNOW
COMMERCIAL DIVING IS SUCH A YOU
KNOW SO UNIQUE- ENISA SMALL
INDUSTRY. ARE WHICH IS YOU KNOW
. THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IN
WITH WITH OUR PROGRAM AND WITH
ME. IS I DON'T JUST SAY ALL
RIGHT SEE YOU GUYS LATER BY YOU
KNOW- IT'S MORE AYE I HAVE TO
GET INVOLVED WITH THESE GUYS ON
OUR SIDE BECAUSE OF MY CONTACTS
THAT I'VE MADE OVER THE YEARS.
AND ALL OUR CONTACTS SO YOU KNOW
WE HAVE A GUY THAT YOU DON'T GOT
OUT ON PAROLE TO SUSANVILLE. AND
HE WANTS TO DIE YOU KNOW SOLD
THERE'S NO DIVING GOING ON IN
SUSAN BILL SO HE HE CHANGED HIS
PAROLE IN CAME ON DOWN HERE TO
LONG BEACH IS WHERE YOU STAND.
AND HE'S IN A HALFWAY HOUSE
WORKING AT TACO BELL. IN ALSO
YOU KNOW I HAD TO GET IN CONTACT
WITH LAW. BY GUY FAN WHO CAME TO
THE PROGRAM HELLO. OWNS HIS OWN.
DIVE COMPANIES SAY HEY YOU KNOW.
WE GOT HIM HE IS WORKING AT TACO
BELL. YOU KNOW IT LET'S GET HIM.
GETTING PREPARED GETTING READY
IN ALSO AND IN ONE OF THE THINGS
WE HAVE TO DO IS. THEY HAVE TO
GO THROUGH A DI PHYSICAL THEY
HAVE TO DO THIS AND THAT ANY
OTHER WHICH REQUIRES MONEY THAT
THEY HAVE THEIR WET SUITS THEY
HAVE TO HAVE THAT STUFF. SO YOU
KNOW IT. YOU KNOW IT IS. IT'S A
REGION. OF EXPERIENCE THE HALF
THE- AND AN AND DO THAT IF YOU
DON'T HAVE A- A GOOD NETWORK OR
GOOD- OUR HOME BASE. OF SOMEONE.
OUT THERE WATCHING YOU KNOW
HELPING OUT IT IS KIND OF ODD
DIFFICULT TO WALK- CONTINUE WITH
THAT STUFF BECAUSE IT REQUIRES
MONEY BUT- YOU KNOW LIKE SAY. IF
YOU MAKE THE DECISION NOT YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO DIVE HEY THE GUYS
WORKING AT TACO BELL SO HE CAN
GET UP THE MONEY. AND M. GET
WITH THE NEEDS SO THAT HE CAN
GET OUT OF TACO BELL AND GO GO
DIVE SOMEWHERE SO YOU KNOW I
GOTTA DELETE WEEKEND Y'ALL ARE
ON WHEELS THOSE SERVICE YES. YES
SURVEYS LIKE THAT. SO I. STARTED
OFF MY FIRST POSITION INSIDE THE
PRISON AT EIGHT CENTS AN HOUR
WORKING IN THE KITCHEN. AND HOW
TO PAY RESTITUTION SO IT WAS
DIFFICULT BECAUSE MY FAMILY
COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF ME. SO I
WAS ALWAYS ON THE INDIGENT LIST
AND GETTING THE YOU KNOW FREE
SHAMPOO AND SOAP THAT I COULD.
AND- AND THE WORKING MY WAY UP
TO- A LEAD POSITION IN THE
KITCHEN MAKING TWENTY FOUR CENTS
AN HOUR AS A NEED COOK. AND AND
I APPRECIATED ALL THE SKILLS I
WAS LEARNING AS SHE SAID. YOU
KNOW IT WAS TEACHING ME- YOU
KNOW THE SKILLS THAT I NEED
TRANSFERABLE SKILLS TO TAKE
EVERYWHERE. AND THE HARD WORK
THAT PAID OFF OF GOING FROM A
SENSE TWENTY FOUR CENTS. THAT
WAS A HUGE ACHIEVEMENT FOR ME
HAVING ONLY POSITION. AND- YOU
KNOW LIKE I SAID I WAS HOOKED I
HEARD ABOUT THE CAL PA PROGRAM.
AND IT WASN'T. THE IT WASN'T THE
WAGES. THAT ENCOURAGED ME TO GET
THAT JOB. IT WAS WHAT I WAS
GONNA LEARN IN THAT PROGRAM. I
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE I DIDN'T
KNOW WAS A PACE CAL. AND SO THAT
WASN'T MY VISION I WAS MY GOAL.
I JUST WANT TO GET INTO THE
PROGRAM SO THAT I WOULD HAVE
SOMETHING TO HELP ME WHEN I.
WHEN I WENT HOME. AND THERE WAS
NO OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE THAT
INSIDE THE INSTITUTION IF THERE
WAS MORE PROGRAMS THAT HELP YOU
WITH RE ENTRY- I'M NOT SAYING
HOW TO BEAT LIKE A CALCULATOR
PROGRAM BUT- MORE HELP WITH THE-
PRE ENTRY. RE ENTRY INTO SOCIETY
THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED A LOT.
BUT KNOWING THAT THERE WASN'T
ANYTHING THERE AND I SEEN A LOT
OF PEOPLE WALK TO THE GATE. WITH
NOT KNOWING WHERE THEY'RE GONNA
GO. AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THEM
COME BACK. I DON'T WANT THAT FOR
ME. SO I MADE SURE THAT I MADE A
WAY. TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE
SOMETHING WHEN I WENT HOME AND
THAT'S WHY I CHOSE CAL PI. VERY
HELPFUL THANK YOU. SENATORS YES
. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION I.
STARTED LATEST. AT WE TALKED A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WAGES AYE AYE I
WANNA I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT
ABOUT. ITS MANAGEMENT. I WE'VE
HAD PRIOR HEARINGS I'VE HAD
OTHER. CONVERSATIONS WITH
INMATES. WHO TALKS TO OUR
ATTENTION. OTHER RELATED AS A
MEASURE EARLIER TO YOU KNOW HOW
THEY ALLOCATE THEIR TIME
PROGRAMMING VERSES WORD. THAT
WHERE THEY SAID IN IN THE CASE
OF WORK WITH IF THEY HAVE NOT
BEEN GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY. TO
AMEND THEIR WORK SCHEDULE SO
THEY COULD DO GEISER PROGRAM
THEY THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT. FOR
THEIR POST. A REENTRY PLANTS SO
AT TO THE WORD INNER DOOR DOOR
TO CHOOSE YOUR JELLY LIKE HOW
ARE YOU THINK ABOUT THE RIGHT
NOW COS WE EMPHASIZE WORK- THERE
IS A WHOLE NOTHER. YOUR BODY OF.
EVER GOING AROUND EMPHASIZING
PROGRAMMING THAT THEY INTERSECT
SOMEWHERE. I DO IN MAY TO HAVE A
JOB ARE THEY DO YOU KNOW DO THEY
HAVE AND HOW DO THEY HOW ARE
THEIR HOURS. ARE DETERMINED TO
WHAT EXTENT DO THEY HAVE. AN
OPTION OF MODIFYING THOSE HOURS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN
ACTUALLY. DO BOTH WORK AND ALSO.
YOU KNOW. JUST IN. CASE
PROGRAMMING THAT THEY THINK IS
IMPORTANT. SO A LOT OF THESE
ARE. ON OUR AND MADE A SIGN OFF
AND SO IF YOU A DINING WORKERS
WILL JUST. THAT FOR YOU KNOW SIX
HALF HOURS. AND THE COMPUTER
SYSTEM- OUR STRATEGIC VENDOR BY
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IF YOU'RE IN
SIX AND A HALF HOURS A DAY THEN
YOU CAN'T OVERLAP THAT WITH A-
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAM SO.
THAT'S HOW THE SCHEDULING WORKS
SO THAT'S I THINK REALLY THE
GOAL OF THIS WHOLE AND
VALUATION. IS TO BRING THAT SIX
AND A HALF HOUR FULL TIME JOB
DOWN TO A- LOT OF THREE AND A
HALF FOR OUR JOB THAT GIVES THEM
LOOK IF WE LOOK AT INCREASED
PAY. THAT GIVES THEM ADDITIONAL
FUNDING BUT IT ALSO GIVES THEM
THE FLEXIBILITY TO. GO TO A GED
OR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA CLASS TO
A COMMUNITY COLLEGE CLASS TO. A
LIFE SKILLS OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE
PROGRAM AND SO IT REALLY LETS
THEM DO MULTIPLE PROGRAMS AT THE
SAME TIME. SO WITHOUT
FLEXIBILITY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT
EVERY SINGLE ASSIGNMENT AND TAKE
I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED THE LEAD ON
THE PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT. A
LOT OF THESE JOBS DON'T NEED TO
BE SIX AND HALF HOURS YOU KNOW
IT'S SIX AND HALF HOURS YOU KNOW
CLEANING A DINING ROOM WE COULD
WE COULD REDUCE THAT TIME GIVE
ME A LITTLE BIT MORE PAY. REALLY
HELP THEM TO GET INTO THE
PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE JUST.
YOU'RE HERE THAT IS ENCOURAGED
BECAUSE I GET AGAINST THE
BACKDROP OF THIS IS IT. IT'S NOT
LIKE ME CAN'T QUIT. RIGHT MAYBE
HEY I'VE CHANGED MY MIND I CAN
ORDER THE DINING ROOM. SO THAT
YOU KNOW THERE IS THAT WORK THEY
ARE PAID FOR THAT WORK. AB BUT
HE DID YOU KNOW IT IS
CHALLENGING TO FIGURE OUT HOW.
MUCH OF THE DAY PLAYS OUT SO BUT
YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AND
THAT'S- A CORNY CRITICS THANK
YOU. ONE YEAH I THINK IT THE OF
THE DAY. I'M MORE INTO. IN THE-
LIKE THESE THESE TWO PEOPLE OVER
HERE. THEN IS THE ALL THE
DETAILS OF HOW YOU GET THERE.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I THINK
THAT'S WHY WE HIRED. ORDINANCE
IS TO. IS TO CUT THE BECAUSE
THAT OUTCOME. AND OUR OUR GOAL
IS TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS YOU
NEED. TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND
AND SO THE MORE SUCCESSFUL
OUTCOMES WE HAVE. THAT TELLS ME
THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING
WHETHER IT'S- WAGES WORKING
HOURS OR WHATEVER IT IS. IT'S
WORKING. BECAUSE IF YOU WANT
THAT OUTCOME THEY DO HAVE TO GET
THAT ANYWAY- YOU'LL MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS ON THE WORKING HOURS
AN EAGLE. I TRUST THAT THAT'S-
THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WAY WE
KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. IS WE
HAVE THESE TWO OUTSTANDING
PEOPLE HERE. ARE TELLING US THAT
IT'S HAPPENING. THANK YOU. OKAY
WELL WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD. GOOD
CONVERSATION HERE. I THANK YOU
ALL VERY MUCH- I CONGRATULATE
YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND YOU KNOW
WE'RE- GONNA WORK HARD TO MAKE
SURE THAT- LPA AND CDCR. GET
MORE RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN
HAVE MORE OF THESE OUTCOMES
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT
MATTERS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING FOR THANK YOU ALL. WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM TO THE
INMATE WELFARE FUND. THIS IS A
CLAIM OF AND FROM THE ALEJO'S
OFFICE THIS O'NEILL. AND
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE- THIS MEN
MENDOZA. MEN DON'T. THEN DON'T.
OKAY I NEVER SAW THAT. YOUR
SOUTHERN VERSION BEFORE. OKAY OF
. WHO WANTS TO BEGIN HERE GO
AHEAD. I GOOD MORNING OKAY SO
WHAT I'M GONNA BRIEFLY TALK
ABOUT IS THE BUDGET CHANGE
PROPOSAL REQUEST I KNOW THERE
ARE OTHER QUESTIONS SURROUNDING-
THE INMATE WELFARE FUND CANTEEN
SO. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE
QUESTIONS AS WELL BUT GENERALLY
THE REQUESTED A BUDGET CHANGE
PROPOSAL REQUEST BEFORE YOU
TODAY'S ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE
AUTHORITY OF TWENTY SIX POINT
EIGHT MILLION- TO ENSURE THAT
CDCR HAS ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO
SUFFICIENTLY STOCK AND MAINTAIN
THE INSTITUTION CANTEENS. I'M
GENERALLY THAT CANTEENS OPERATE
IN ALL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTIONS
AND GENERATE REVENUE THROUGH THE
SALE OF GOODS. RENDON IWF USED
TO SUPPORT CANTEEN ACTIVITIES
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AND
THESE BENEFITS INCLUDE THINGS
LIKE RECREATIONAL REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMMING A SUPPORTING AND
SUPPORTING THAT FAMILY VISITING
AT DUE TO VARIANCE IN THE ANNUAL
CANTEEN PURCHASES YOU SEE ARE IS
ALSO REQUESTING PROVISIONAL
LANGUAGE TO ALLOW THE
DEPARTMENT. THE ABILITY TO
INCREASE SPENDING AUTHORITY AN
ADDITIONAL 5% DURING THE YEAR.
AND THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AND
ADJUST THE INMATE WILL FOR FUN
OF THOR THE THROUGH AN ANNUAL
TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENT. I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE I REITERATE
HERE THE PROPOSED INCREASED TO
THE AUTHORITY DOES NOT AFFECT
THE PRICES OF THE GOODS SOLD IN
THE CANTEENS JUST ALLOWS THE
DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE THOSE
ITEMS. TO RESTOCK THE CANTINA
USING ITS AVAILABLE FUNDS. ARE
GENERALLY THE MARKUP ON CANTEEN
ITEMS HAS STAYED AT SIXTY FIVE
CENTS AT 65% EXCUSE ME AS REMAIN
THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE
REVENUE GENERATED FROM THIS
MARKET LIKE I SAID IS COVERED
USED TO COVER THOSE ACOSTA STAFF
INCARCERATED PERSONS. THAT
DIRECTLY SUPPORT CANTEEN
ACTIVITIES AND THOSE PURCHASE OF
GOODS. I'M CITIES ARE IS IN THE
PROCESS OF EVALUATING THE MARKUP
IN ANTICIPATES THE RESULTS OF
THAT EVALUATION TO BE COMPLETED
IN THE EARLY SUMMER. I THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON. IN
GREAT- MISSILE NEIL. YOU LIKE TO
GO NEXT. OUR DEPARTMENT FINANCE
WEBER WANTS TO. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR KATE ANANYA WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE WE
DIDN'T RAISE ANY CONCERNS ON
THIS PROPOSAL BUT I'M AVAILABLE
FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
SENTIMENT ON THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE WE HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE BUT WERE
AVAILABLE FOR CARS. RIGHT THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
COLLEAGUES. I'M ANSWER.
QUESTIONS I DO REAL QUICKLY I'M
I'M LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS AND
THERE'S A THERE'S A SENSE OF
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS RELY
ON. CANTEEN PURCHASES TO
SUPPLEMENT THE OFTEN INADEQUATE
FOOD AND PRODUCTS. SUPPLIED TO
THEM THERE'S A FOOTNOTE THEN
THERE'S A LINK BUT I WOULD HOPE
I MEAN I WOULD ASSUME. THAT IS
NOT THE POINT OF YOU SEE THIS
YEAR THAT. THE PRODUCTS PROVIDED
IMAGES INADEQUATE. NOW THE TYPES
OF THINGS THAT ARE PURCHASED IN
THE CANTEEN ARE SUPPLEMENTARY TO
THE FOOD AND OTHER THINGS THAT
ARE ALREADY PROVIDED TO
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS. SO I
GUESS I'M NOT I DON'T I'VE GOT A
PIECE OF PAPER SO I CAN CLICK ON
THE LINK BUT I GOTTA LOOK INTO
IT- AND THAT SEVEN EDITORIAL.
STATEMENT THERE AGAIN SO. THIS
IS SUPPLEMENTAL REYES OKAY AND
GUESTS. OKAY APPRECIATE THE- YES
. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS
SAYING IS. RIGHTS OF GOODS HAVE
GONE UP OUR CEILING CAP IS
PREVENTING YOU FROM. PROVIDING
THE SAME AMOUNT THAT YOU HAD
BEFORE AND SO UNLESS WE RAISE
THE CEILING CAP OF THE- OVERAGE-
THEN THEY'LL BE LESS GOODS.
STARTLINGLY IN THE CANTEEN
CORRECT FOLKS TO BUY. THANK YOU.
IS YES INFLATION HASN'T AFFECTED
EVERYBODY INCLUDING OUR CDC ARE
. OKAY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON
THAT- HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH
THE 65% MARKUP. FRAZIER OF THE
65% MARKUP IS- BEEN ESTABLISHED
I SAYS IT'S BEEN THE SAME FOR
QUITE SOME TIME AND IT WAS THE
AMOUNT THAT WAS DETERMINED
BECAUSE THIS FUND NEEDS TO BE
SELF SUFFICIENT. SO IT NEEDS TO
GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER
ALL OF ITS COSTS AND NOT RELY ON
ANY OUTSIDE SOURCE. OKAY BUT THE
FUNDING CURRENTLY HAS A RESERVE
OF ALMOST FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS
THAT IS CORRECT AND SO THAT'LL
SO HOW. IF THE MARKUP WAS MEANT
TO. MAKE SURE THAT THE FUND IS
SOLVENT. WHICHEVER RESERVE A
FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS. WHAT'S
THE PLAN FOR THAT MONEY AND I
CONTINUE WITH THE MARKUP OF
SIXTY FIVE PERCENT. AS I
INDICATED WHAT THAT'S ONE OF
THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT
NOW AND ACTUALLY- WERE ALMOST
COMPLETED WITH FINISHED WITH OUR
ANALYSIS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE
SPEAKING AGAIN WITH- FOLKS THAT
THE INSTITUTIONS AND WITHIN THE
FAMILY COUNCIL TO BEFORE WE EVEN
IMPLEMENTED ANYTHING BECAUSE
THIS IS. AFFECTING THOSE IN THE
INSTITUTIONS AND THEIR FAMILIES
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER
WE DO. WHATEVER CHANGE THAT WE
MAKE IS SUPPORTED BY BY THOSE
INDIVIDUALS AND SO- I WANTED TO
KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT THE
REASON THAT THE FUND BALANCE
JUMPED FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER
THE LAST COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE-
OF FOLKS HAD MORE PURCHASING
POWER AND- THERE WERE RECORD
DEPOSITS INTO THE INMATES- TRUST
ACCOUNTS- AND SO WE KIND OF HAD
A YEAR WHERE WE- EXCEEDED BY FAR
I THINK WE HAD A 28% GROWTH. IN
THE TERMS OF IN THE NUMBER OF
ITEMS THAT WE SOLD- WHERE'S OUR
NORMAL ANNUAL GROWTH IS AROUND
FIVE OR 6% AND THE ITEMS WE SOLD
SO. WE DID DEFINITELY RECENTLY
HAD A VERY LARGE INCREASE IN OUR
FUND BALANCE PRIMARILY DUE TO A
COUPLE YEARS OF HIGH SPENDING.
AND SO THAT WAS AS SOON AS WE
WERE DOING THIS B. C. P. THIS
BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT WAS WE
STARTED DOING THAT AND I'LL SEE.
WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE MARKET
SO THAT WE CAN SPEND THAT FUND
BALANCE DOWN BUT WHATEVER WE DO
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S
SUSTAINABLE OVER THE LONG TERM
SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN
IS. REDUCE THE MARKET TO ZERO.
FOR LIKE EIGHT MONTHS AND THEN.
FIND IT RIGHT BACK UP TO SIXTY
FIVE SO. MAYBE IT'S A HYBRID
LIKE GOING DOWN TO ABOUT 40%
THAT YOU KNOW GIVES A
INCARCERATED PEOPLE IN THEIR
FAMILY RELIEF. BUT ALLOWS US TO
SPEND THAT FUND BALANCE DOWN
OVER VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME SO
THAT THE MARKUPS. DOESN'T
FLUCTUATE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE'RE GONNA APPROACH WITH
LIKE I SAID IN A FAMILY COUNCIL
GROUPS THAT MAKE SURE THAT THAT
SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW. WOULD
THEY PREFER THAT OR WOULD THEY
PREFER YOU KNOW SOME OTHER KIND
OF OPTION BUT WE ARE. COMING UP
WITH DIFFERENT ANALYSIS. DATA
YEAH BECAUSE THE I MEAN HAVING
THAT MUCH MONEY IN RESERVE- I'M
NOT SURE WHAT DATE WHAT'S THE-
WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL. PURPOSE
OF IT JUST TO HAVE A- CUSHION.
YOU KNOW OF THAT. BUT. IT'S
GETTING SO HIGH YES. YEAH GET IN
THE THAT THAT. THAT JUMP IN FOR
BALANCE. JUST BEEN OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS BUT A GENERALLY
ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES
USUALLY. INDICATE THAT YOU NEED
TO KEEP AT LEAST TWO MONTHS AND
RESERVES WHICH IS ABOUT. A
SIXTEEN POINT EIGHT MILLION SO
IF YOU. TAKE SIXTEEN POINT EIGHT
EIGHT NINE OFFICE STILL. NOT
GONNA ARGUE A SUBSTANTIAL FUND
BALANCE THAT WE JUST WENT OVER
BUT AROUND SEVENTEEN MILLION
SHOULD BE KEPT IN RESERVE. TO
COVER TWO MONTHS OF EXPENDITURES
THAT ISN'T. STANDARD ACCOUNTING
. MMHM AND THE- IT AND THE-
AMOUNT. OF THE MARKUP INCLUDES
ALSO THE COST OF STAFFING. THE
COUNTING. YES SO THAT THE
REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED FROM
THE MARKUP IS COVERS THE COST OF
BILL CDCR STAFF AND INMATE.
WORKERS THAT WORK IN THE CANTEEN
IT COVERS THEIR THEIR- COSTS.
THEIR SALARIES BASICALLY. AND
THAT'S- I'M SORRY THIS IS A
LITTLE BLURRY I DON'T HAVEN'T
EXACTLY PERSONAL PERSONNEL
SERVICES YES. IN THE- FIFTH SET
AMOUNT IT'S A LITTLE BLURRY THIS
COPY HERE. DO SO THE CHART WILL
CLEARLY. SO IT'S ABOUT TWENTY
THREE POINT FIVE MILLION. THAT'S
THE STE THE STAFF THE CAN TRACK.
STATEWIDE STAFF. IT'S ABOUT TWO
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR STATE
STAFF AND ROUGHLY FIVE HUNDRED
IN THE WORKERS. I'M IN MADE THE-
I'M SORRY IF YOU COULD JUST
QUICKLY SURE GO THIS FRIENDS
OUTSIDE BUSY- CENTER CONTRACT.
CORRECT SO YEAH THE FIRST ITEM
IS CANTEEN EXPENSES IF YOU'RE
LOOKING AT THE AND YES AND YES-
AND THAT'S SIXTY SEVEN SIXTY SIX
POINT EIGHT MILLION AND THAT IS
TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE GOODS
THAT ARE IN YOUR HANDS AND NCSL-
AND THEN A PERSONAL SERVICES
AGAIN WE- ASK. THAT THE STAFF
COST AND THEN THERE ARE. OTHER
ITEMS THAT ARE COVERED THOSE
WHAT WE CALL THE IT-
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMMING
INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING GRANTS A
VICTIM IMPACT GRANTS THAT ARE
COVERED THROUGH THE IN THE
WELFARE FUND. AND THAT'S WHAT
THOSE NEXT FEW ITEMS ARE OUR
FRIENDS OUTSIDE YOUR P.
INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING GRANTS.
I'M IN MAY BENEFITS THINGS LIKE
THAT SO IT MAY BENEFITS IS
THINGS LIKE- SUPPLIES FOR
VISITING THE VISITING ROOMS
ATHLETIC EQUIPMENT THINGS THAT
CDC ARE- DOES NOT PURCHASE OR
NOT REQUIRED TO PURCHASE. AND A
PENCHANT. EXPENSE WHOSE PENSION
IS THAT. GENERALLY SO IT'S A-
ENGINE OF THE WORKERS THAT ARE
IN. EIGHT OUT OF THAT FUND SO
IT'S- YES YOU SEE OUR WORKERS
STATE WORKERS SO IT'S ADD. SO
THE PERSONNEL OF SERVICES THAT
TWENTY THREE MILLION DOESN'T.
THAT DOESN'T THAT'S NOT LIKE.
ALL PAYROLL COSTS YES THAT'S
ANNUAL PAYROLL. BUT IN ADDITION
TO THAT PAYROLL IS AN ADULT
ANOTHER PENSION PROACTIVE ABOUT
. FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND. WE KEEP
IN RESERVES FOR THAT BECAUSE WE
ARE REQUIRED TO. MAKE THE BUT
THE PAIN THAT THEY'RE PAID OUT
OF THIS INMATE WELFARE. BUT
RIGHT NOW IF- MOST EVERYONE
ELSE'S EDC EITHER PAID OUT OF
THE GENERAL FUND GENERAL FUND
COVERS THAT AND YOUR LIABILITY
SO THIS IT'S THE SAME IT'S THE
EQUIVALENT YEAH I JUST THOUGHT
THAT ALL STAFF ALL EMPLOYEES OF
CDC ARE WERE. GENERAL FUND YOU
KNOW BY ARI USUAL RIGHT
MEMORANDUM AGREEMENTS THAT. ARE
NEGOTIATED. YEAH CHRIS THEY'RE
PAID FROM THE INMATE WELFARE SO
IT'S THE IT'S THE SAME. M. O. U.
TYPE. REQUIREMENTS BUT THEY'RE
PAID FROM THE IN A WELFARE FUND
SO WE SHOW THAT ARE FINE
COMMISSION STATEMENT- BECAUSE
WE'RE REQUIRED TO READ THIS FUND
IS AUDITED EVERY YEAR BY BILLS
STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE OFFICE
AND STATE AUDITS AND EVALUATIONS
SO IT'S A- IT'S A- LEGAL
REQUIREMENT. OKAY THANK YOU. S.
YES WHAT'S NOW I'M CURIOUS WHAT
WHAT'S THE FRIENDS OUTSIDE
VISITORS CENTER CONTRACT- TO THE
TUNE OF A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS
A YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE
MY SPREADSHEET. IT'S FREE THERE
IT'S THE LINE UNDER PERSONAL
SERVICES. IF I HAVE IT. FRIENDS
FRIENDS YEAH IT IS IT'S A
PROGRAM THAT. OFFERS AT. I'M
SORRY I'M COMPLETELY BLINKING I
APOLOGIZE. BUT IT'S A IT'S AN
OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY YES WITHOUT
SAID ENTITY YEAH THAT COMES IN
AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO
INCARCERATED FOLKS. IN ADDITION
TO SO THIS IS OUTSIDE OF
STABBING THE CANTEENS CORRECT
THAT IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
KIDS TEENS. FUNDING REVENUE FLOW
. SO IT'S A EXPENDITURE OUT OF
THE FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS
SOMETHING THAT'S DIRECTLY
SUPPORTS THE INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS. SO IT'S A IT'S A
CONTRACT WITH IN WITH AN OUTSIDE
GROUP THAT COMING TO PROVIDE
SERVICES FOR INCARCERATED LIKE
INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING GRANTS
THE SAME THING IT'S A- OUTSIDE
GROUP THAT COMES IN TO PROVIDE-
COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY OR
ANY KIND OF A MAN IS FUNDED OF
THE CAN'T. REFUSE CORRECT I AND
THAT'S PROVIDED BY A SINGLE
VENDOR ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT
NOT SURE. NOT IN EXPENSE RIGHT
THANKS. THANK SO ESSENTIALLY THE
CANTEEN PROGRAM AND ALL OF THE
FUNDING FOR THIS PARTICULAR
INMATE WELFARE FUND. IS- WELL
FUNDED YOU HAVE A GOOD RESERVE.
SO THAT WHEN THERE ARE
FLUCTUATIONS YOU DON'T HAVE TO
COME BACK TO US AND ASK FOR MORE
MONEY. YOU CAN RESPOND TO THOSE
BECAUSE SOME PLAYERS THERE IS
GOOD AND THEN THERE SOME YEARS
THE NOT SO GOOD. BUT IF YOU CAN
GO IN HERE. EVERYTHING WORKS AND
WITH THIS FINE YOU'RE ABLE TO
PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES
LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WILL.
WELL RUN AND WELL BUDGETED THANK
. MAYBE YOU CAN TALK TO SOME OF
OUR STATE. I WILL HAVE TO GIVE
ABSOLUTE CREDIT TO MY ACCOUNTING
TEAM OF THAT RUN THIS LIKE I
SAID THIS. R. INMATE WELFARE
FUND IS AUDITED BY BOTH THE
STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND
THE OFFICE THE STATE. AUDIT
EVALUATIONS AND GENERALLY WE
HAVE ZERO MATERIAL DIFFERENCE
WHEN EXISTE AND REGULATORS. OKAY
I WAS VERY THANK YOU. OKAY IF
THEY'RE NO MORE QUESTIONS I
THINK WE'VE HANDLED THIS THANK
YOU ALL VERY MUCH WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. THIS IS A
COMMUNICATION- VISITATION. AND
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. OKAY THIS
IS A CLAIM- MISTER DAVIS MISS
O'NEILL. FROM MILLS OFFICE OF
MISS TOMLINSON DEPARTMENT
FINANCE AND ISSUE A DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE. MISS YOU IT ISN'T
AVAILABLE OUT HERE TODAY
SENTIMENT ON SAT OKAY. I WOULD I
JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH THAT
SURE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO COVER
FREE CALLING FIRST AND THEN WAIT
FOR THAT DISCUSSION AND THEN GO
INTO THE SITUATION OR WOULD YOU
LIKE ME. TO YOU REMARKS FOR BOTH
RIGHT ON THE ON THE SAME TIME.
COLLUDING. OKAY ALL RIGHT IT'S
BEST IF YOU DO ALL. ALTHOUGH ALL
OF THEM OKAY YEAH. LOGIN I WILL
FOR START WITH OUR FREE CALLING
SO SB TENO EIGHT REQUIRES AS YOU
SEE ARE TO PROVIDE FREE CALLING
TO OWN CURSOR TO PERSONS THE
REQUESTED BUT A CHANGE PROPOSAL
REQUEST BEFORE YOU PROVIDES
THIRTY POINT SEVEN MILLION
ONGOING GENERAL FUND INTO
POSITIONS TO SUPPORT THE
PROVISIONS OF SB TEN OH EIGHT.
OTHER FOR REQUESTED FUNDING WAS
CALCULATED UTILIZING A MIX OF
ACTUAL AND ESTIMATED CALL DATA.
DUE TO THE POTENTIAL VARIANTS OF
ANNUAL CALLING YOU SAID SHE'S
YOURS ALSO REQUESTING
PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE TO AUGMENT
OR REDUCE THE ANNUAL FUNDING AS
A TECH AS ACTUAL DATA BECOMES
AVAILABLE. AS WELL AS THE OF TO
UPDATE OUR FUNDING LEVELS DURING
ANNUAL TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENT. I
JUST AS A REMINDER IN ADDITION
TO FREE CALLING C. C. R.
THROUGH- IT'S COMMUNICATIONS
CONTRACT ALSO PROVIDES FIFTEEN
MINUTES OF FREE VIDEO CALLS
EVERY TWO WEEKS. AND THE TWENTY
TWENTY ONE BUDGET ACT INCLUDED
FUNDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIXTY
MINUTES OF. FREE VOICE CALLING
EVERY TWO WEEKS AND SIXTY
ELECTRONIC MESSAGES- THE FUNDING
WAS RE APPROPRIATED AND CDCR
CONTINUES TO PROVIDE SIXTY FREE
ELECTRONIC MESSAGES PER MONTH
FOR EACH INCARCERATED PERCENT.
IN ADDITION TO THE FOR CALLING
AT JUST GENERALLY WANTED TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT OUR CURRENT PHONE
CONTRACT. WAS AMENDED VERY
RECENTLY TO GO ON A MORE TIERED
STRUCTURE SO THE FIRST FORTY
FIVE MILLION MINUTES ARE- TWO
POINT NINE CENTS WITH TAX AND
ARE. BETWEEN FORTY FIVE MILLION
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION MINUTES
IT'S TWO POINT TWO CENTS PER
MINUTE WHICH TAX. AND THEN
INCLUDING TAX AND THEN OVER
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION MINUTES
IT'S ONE POINT NINE CENTS PER
MINUTE PLUS TAX OUR CONTRACT WAS
RECENTLY AMENDED. UPON THEIR
PASSAGE OF SB TEN OUT
IMPLEMENTATION OF SB TEN AWAIT.
AND SO- OUR REQUEST- DOES NOT
INCLUDE THAT RIGHT NOW AND WE
WILL BE ADJUSTING AT THE MAY
REVISION TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS
CHANGE IN CONTRACT- BUT
GENERALLY. RECALLING IS PROVIDED
CHU CH'OL IMAGE INDIVIDUALS AND
WE THEY STILL GET THE SIXTY FREE
EMAIL MESSAGES PER MONTH. ON THE
PREVIOUS FUNDING. GOING TO
VISITATION RECOGNIZING
IMPORTANTE RECOGNIZING THE
IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING FAMILY
AND COMMUNITY KEPT CONNECTIONS.
THE TWENTY ONE A BUDGET ACT
PROVIDED TWENTY POINT THREE
MILLION GENERAL FUND AND A
HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR POINT ONE
POSITIONS. FOR ADDITIONAL DAY OF
VISITING AND FUNDING TO SUPPORT
THE REUNIFICATION TRANSPORTATION
BUS PROGRAM. THE CONTRACT- FOR
THE REUNIFICATION BUS PROGRAM
WAS EXECUTED IN JULY OF TWENTY
TWO EACH YEAR WITH SERVICE
STARTING IN SEPTEMBER OF TWENTY
TWENTY TWO. DID YOU SEE OUR WAS
STILL UNDER COVERT NINETEEN
HEALTH AND SAFETY PROTOCOLS. A
DURING THE TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO
AND TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE
FISCAL YEARS AND AS SUCH
PROVIDED THE ADDITIONAL DAY OF
VISITING VIA A ONE HOUR VIDEO
VISITS. VIDEO VISITING ALLOWED
FOR PERSONS WHO ARE UNABLE TO
TRAVEL TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES-
AND FOR INCARCERATED PERSONS TO
WITNESS A VARIETY OF LIFE EVENTS
AND EXPERIENCES THAT WOULD
OTHERWISE BE UNAVAILABLE WITH IN
PERSON VISITING. WITH THIS
CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTIES FAMILY
PETS AND SCHOOL PROJECTS. A
VIDEO VISITING OCCURS IN THE
SAME LOCATION AS IN PERSON
VISITING A REQUIRES COMPUTERS TO
BE SET UP ON VISITING ROOM
TABLES. CDCR STAFF MUST VERIFY
THE IDENTIFY IDENTITY OF THE
CALLER AND MONITOR THE VIDEO
CALLS DURING THE DURATION WHICH
PROVIDES THE SAME SECURITY
COMPLEMENT AS IN PERSON. YOUR
SPACE LIMITATION OTHER FACTORS
VIDEO VISITING AN IN PERSON
VISITING TYPICALLY OCCUR ON
SEPARATE. HOWEVER I WILL NOTE
THAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE
SWITCHING- TWO THREE DAYS OF IN
PERSON VISITING. IN JULY OF
TWENTY TWENTY THREE THAT KIND OF
COINCIDES WITH THE TABLET
ROLLOUT COMPLETION OF THE TOP.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
PER PRESENT ON THESE ISSUES-
MYSELF AND- MISTER DAVIS HERE
ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THESE TWO
ISSUES. OKAY SO NOW WOULD YOU
LIKE TO. THANK YOU OKAY O'NEILL
AT THE L. A. L. WE HAVE
RECOMMENDATIONS ON THREE
DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS
PROPOSAL ALL RATHER TECHNICAL IN
NATURE. FIRST WITH REGARDS TO
THE PROPOSED FUNDING AMOUNT. IN
OUR REVIEW OF THE GOVERNOR'S.
BUDGET BEFORE I WHICH WAS AT
THAT TIME WHICH WAS BEFORE THE
IT DEPARTMENT HAD RENEGOTIATED
THAT- THE CONTRACT. WITH THE
VENDOR WE FOUND THE AMOUNT TO BE
REASONABLE. HOWEVER WE DO KNOW
THAT IT WAS BASED ON LIMITED
CALLING USAGE DATA THAT. WAS
COLLECTED GIVEN THE TIMING PRIOR
TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SB ONE
L. EIGHT. AND ALSO OF COURSE THE
CONTRACT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED GO
SHE ADDED SINCE THEN TO A NEW
PRICING MODEL. SO WE RECOMMEND
WITHHOLDING ACTION ON THE
FUNDING AT THIS TIME AND
REQUIRING UPDATED DATA ON
CALLING USAGE TO BE PROVIDED AT
THEM A REVISION WITH THE REVISED
PROPOSAL. I'M THE SECOND ASPECT
THAT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON
IS THE PROPOSED PROVISIONAL
LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY THE BUDGET
INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT WOULD
ALLOW D. O. F. TO AUGMENT OUR
REDUCED THE BUDGET YEAR AMOUNT.
BASED ON ACTUAL OR ESTIMATED
EXPENDITURE DATA AND WE FOUND
THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS
UNNECESSARY AND LIMITS
LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT. AND
THAT'S BECAUSE THE BUDGET
ALREADY INCLUDES A MECHANISM FOR
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TO.
AUGMENT DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS IN
THE EVENT OF AN EXPECTED COST
INCREASES THAT'S ITEM NINETY
EIGHT FORTY. IT INCLUDES FORTY
MILLION ACROSS THE STATE. GEN
FOR- AN EXTENDED EXPECTED
GENERAL FUND INCREASES THAT CAN
BE AUTHORIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE WITH. JAIL BC
NOTIFICATION IN THE EVENT THAT
FORTY MILLION ISN'T ADEQUATE
THERE'S A PROCESS FOR- DEAL
AFTER COME FORWARD WITH A-
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION
REQUEST. SO WE DO RECOMMEND
REJECTING THIS PROPOSED
PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE. AND THIRD.
THE- ADMINISTRATION IS
REQUESTING AUTHORITY TO ADJUSTED
THE ANNUAL BUDGET AMOUNT GOING
FORWARD. A TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENT
AND THAT TYPICALLY THE TECHNICAL
ADJUSTMENT PROCESS WE FIND
DOESN'T AFFORD. TRANSPARENCY
BECAUSE IT IT DOESN'T TYPICALLY
COME WITH- BACKUP JUSTIFICATION.
ON THE METHODOLOGY OR DATA THAT
WAS USED TO SUBMIT BE ADDRESS TO
MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT. SO WE WOULD
RECOMMEND INSTEAD THAT THE
LEGISLATURE DIRECT THE
DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS THE ANNUAL
LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR THIS ITEM
GOING FORWARD. I'M USING THE
EXISTING POPULATION BUDGET
ADJUSTMENT. UP PROCESS AND NOT
PROCESS. THROUGH THAT PROCESS
THE ADMINISTRATION TYPICALLY
CEMEX METHODOLOGY AND
INFORMATION ABOUT YOU SAID RATES
EXETER AND THIS WOULD MAKE IT
HAVING THAT INFORMATION WOULD
MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO UNDERSTAND
WHETHER THE REQUESTED AMOUNT IS.
JUSTIFIED WHETHER THERE BEEN ANY
KINDS OF POLICY CHANGES OR OTHER
FACTORS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE D.
ON THE NEED FOR FUNDING AS WELL
AS- JUST TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT
MORE BROADLY OVER THIS ISSUE
AREA THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU.
THIS MENDOZA. SIR TOMLINSON
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE OKAY. NO
WORRIES- BUT WE JUST LIKE TO
NOTE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
ACKNOWLEDGES THE REQUEST- THE
REQUESTED AMOUNTS WERE BASED ON
HISTORICAL DATA PROJECTIONS AND
THAT ADDITIONAL DATA HAS BECOME
AVAILABLE TO COULD POTENTIALLY
BE USED FOR REFINEMENT PURPOSES-
WE LOOK FORWARD TO MORE
DISCUSSION FOLLOWING THE RELEASE
OF THE MAY REVISION.
ADDITIONALLY A NOTE ON THE
PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE
ADMINISTRATION'S INTENT WAS NOT
TO LIMIT LIMIT LEGISLATIVE
OVERSIGHT AND WE ARE OPEN TO
WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO
REFINE THE PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE
IS NECESSARY. OUR PRIORITY IS TO
HAVE A MECHANISM AVAILABLE TO
ADJUST THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE FOR
SB TEN AWAIT. IMPLEMENTATION
GIVEN THE POTENTIAL THAT THE
AMOUNT NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THE
LEGISLATION COULD EXCEED OR FALL
BELOW. PROJECTED LEVELS WERE
TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE THE
ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT FIND
THAT ITEM NINETY EIGHT FORTY OR
A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION
WOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION FOR
FUNDING AUGMENTATION. RELATED TO
SB TEN A WEEK COSTS. WE WOULD BE
HAPPY TO SHARE MORE DETAILS ON
OUR SPECIFIC CURRENT CONCERNS OF
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THESE
MECHANISMS ARE TYPICALLY USED
FOR EMERGENCY CALL UP OR COSTS
THAT ARE UNKNOWN AT THE TIME OF
THE BUDGET. COMMITTEE ARE
UNKNOWN AT THE TIME THE BUDGET
IS ENACTED IT WOULD BE
CHALLENGING TO ARGUE THAT THESE
WOULD APPLY IN THE CASE OF AN
ACTIVE LEGISLATION. I AM THE
ADMINISTRATION IS OPEN TO
WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE
REGARDING THAT BEST. MECHANISM
TO ADJUST ANNUAL FUNDING LEVELS
. NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT THIS.
GREAT THANK YOU- THANK YOU ALL
VERY MUCH WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON
MY COLLEAGUES. QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS.
I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS- IF YOU
WOULD I THINK THIS IS FOR. WOULD
BE FOR. THIS CLAIM. IF YOU
COULD- TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT. THE TABLET ROLLOUT IN
TERMS OF WHERE IT WHERE IT
STANDS RIGHT NOW. CERTAINLY SO
THAT THE PLAN IS TO HAVE ALL
TABLETS RULED OUT BY THE END OF
THE FISCAL YEAR- WE HAVE
DEPLOYED ALL BUT- COULD YOU
LOWER THE MICROPHONE OF
SOMETHING I APOLOGIZE. YOU.
EIGHTY NINE WE DEPLOYED- TO ALL
BUT TEN INSTITUTIONS WERE WERE
FINISHING UP A COUPLE IN APRIL
BUT THE REMAINING TEN WILL BE
HAPPENING OVER THE NEXT. COUPLE
MONTHS BEFORE THE END OF THE
FISCAL YEAR. DID YOU MENTION
JULY. YOU SAY THE HOBBIT ROLLOUT
BY JULY YES BUT SORRY END OF
JUNE THIRTIETH JULY OKAY THAT'S
WHEN. I'LL SITUATIONS WILL HAVE
TO BE I WILL HAVE THEM OKAY. AND
THEN- TO TALK TO ME SOME MORE
ABOUT THE IN PERSON IN VIDEO A
VISITATION- AND- HOW IS THAT
MOVING FORWARD- YOU MENTIONED
THEY GET IN OUR- FREE. ONE HOUR
FREE IS THAT THE- NO NO NO WHEN
OUR VIDEO VISITATION OF WHAT ONE
HOUR PER HOW HOW OFTEN. UPPER
WEEKEND SO THERE'S A VIDEO
COLLEGES EXPLAINING AGAIN
GETTING AT ALL THAT'S OKAY. SO
THERE'S VIDEO CALLING THAT
HAPPENS ON THE TABLETS AND THE
CURRENT PHONE CONTRACT PROVIDES
FIFTEEN MINUTES OF FREE VIDEO
CALLS EVERY TWO WEEKS. FIFTEEN
FIFTEEN MINUTES EVERY TWO WEEKS
FOR THREE FROM THE TABLETS WITH
CERTAIN OTHER VIDEO CALLS AND
THEN AT THE CDCR HAS THREE DAYS
OF VISITING FRIDAY SATURDAY
SUNDAY AND IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S A
HYBRID WHERE TYPICALLY AN
INSTITUTION GENERALLY WILL
PROVIDE. TWO DAYS OF IN PERSON
VISITING AND ONE DAY A VIDEO ONE
HOUR FREE VISITATION. SO IT'S IN
LIEU OF THAT THIRD THIRD IN
PERSON DAY- AND THAT WAS.
INSTITUTED BECAUSE OF CODE SO WE
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT-
INDIVIDUALS COULD STILL. CONNECT
WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND SO WE IT
WAS INCREDIBLY POPULAR. VIDEO
VISITATION AND SO WE WENT TO A
HYBRID MODEL BASED ON
DISCUSSIONS WITH INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS IN THE FAMILY
COUNCIL. AND SO NOW WITH THE
TABLETS GOING TO. A COME OUT
ROLL OUT CONCLUDING IN JUNE
EARLY JULY WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH
TO IN PERSON VIDEO. AT SORRY IN
PERSON THREE DAY. A VIDEO VISITS
ON FRIDAY SATURDAY SUNDAY AND
INCARCERATED STILL HAVE THE
ABILITY TO USE THEIR TABLETS AT
ANY POINT IN TIME. DURING THE
WEEK FOR VIDEO CALLS VIDEO CHATS
BUT YOU'RE GOING BACK TO THE
THREE CARRILLO THREE YES-
BEGINNING IN JULY IN PERSON. A
IN JULY IN PERTH OKAY- AND THERE
WAS A MENTION OF- THAT VIDEO AND
IN PERSON VISITATION REQUIRE THE
SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF. WHO COULD
YOU EXPLAIN THAT CORRECT I'M
ACTUALLY GONNA DEFER TO MY
COLLEAGUE MISTER DAVIS. A GOOD
AFTERNOON RON DAVIS ACTING
DEPUTY DIRECTOR- OF. THE C. R-
AS AS THAT MS MCCLAIN MENTIONED-
GENERALLY SPEAKING IT'S THE SAME
WE USE THE SAME SPACE THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT SPACE
IN OUR FACILITIES. I'M
PROGRAMMING SPACE VISITING
SPACE- SO WE HAVE TO USE THE
SAME SPACE THAT WE USE FOR IN
PERSON VISITING. AND USING THAT
SPACE FOR THE VIDEO VISITING
REQUIRES THE SAME CUSTODY
COVERAGE TO PROVIDE SUPERVISION
OF THAT SPACE THAT'S NOT A
NORMALLY STAFF SPACE IT'S ONLY
STAFF WHEN IT'S UTILIZED FOR
VISITING- SO WHETHER IT'S AT.
THE INCARCERATED PERSONS IN THE
VISITING ROOM I'M ON THE
COMPUTER DOING THE VIDEO
VISITATION OR THE INCARCERATED
PERSONS IN THE VISITING ROOM
WITH THEIR LOVED ONES WHO HAVE
COME INTO VISIT WE STILL HAVE TO
HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF STAFF IN
THERE TO PROVIDE. A CÁC
SUPERVISION FOR THAT SPACE. OKAY
OKAY OF. AND SPEAKING OF THE
SPACING OF TELL ME HOW THAT. IS
GOING IN TERMS OF FINDING
ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THE VIDEO
VISITATION. A SPACE WITHIN ALL
OF OUR FACILITIES AS IT IS AT A
PREMIUM WERE- AS MENTIONED
EARLIER WE'RE DOING- I SPACE
EVALUATIONS TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
IN ADDITION TO- PROVIDING VIDEO
VISITATION AND IN PERSON.
VISITATION IN THOSE VISITING
ROOMS MOST OF OUR INSTITUTIONS
ON NON VISITING DAYS OR
PROVIDING SOME TYPE
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMMING IN
THAT SPACE- WE'VE- WE'RE WE'RE
REALLY WORKING TO MAXIMIZE THE
USE OF OUR SPACE OUR OUR
EDUCATION CLASSROOMS THAT DURING
THE DAY ARE FOR EDUCATION.
DURING THE EVEN EVENINGS- MAY
HAVE A COLLEGE PROGRAM OR SOME
OTHER- REHABILITATIVE TYPE
PROGRAM WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPACE
THAT'S LEFT ON UNUSED- PRETTY
MUCH EVERYTHING BETWEEN. THE
HOURS OF YOU KNOW EIGHT AM TO
EIGHT PM- ARE ARE BEING YOU
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK WE'RE REALLY
TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT AND
THAT'S WHAT THAT EVALUATION IS
RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST TAKING A
LOOK AT ALL THAT SPACE- AND DO
AN EVALUATION. AND IF YOU COULD
OF. A TOTAL OF THE MORE ABOUT
THE DEMAND FOR VISITS AND HOW
THAT'S BEING- HANDLED. I KNOW-
I'D HEARD OF THE DIFFICULTY THAT
PEOPLE WERE HAVING A TO GET TO
BE ABLE TO BOOK THEIR VISITS-
THERE WAS THAT ONLINE RIGHT
RIGHT YEAH. AND THE DIFFICULTY
THAT VIEWPOINT HOLLEYMAN EXACTLY
AT. SIX AM OR SOMETHING SIX OH
ONE IT'S- BOOKED ANYWAY. SO BUT
I'D RATHER HEAR FROM YOU
ABSOLUTELY SO INITIALLY WHEN WE
WHEN WE ROLLED OUT THE ONLINE
VISITING- THE WHOLE STATE WENT
LIVE AT THE SAME TIME SO YOU
HAD- VISITORS FOR EVERY ADULT
INSTITUTION. COMPETING WITH THAT
SAME THAT SAME COMPUTER PROGRAM
AND JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BANNED WITH
ISSUES- YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE
GONNA BE WAITING IN LINE JUST
LIKE BUYING TICKETS FROM
TICKETMASTER YOU'RE GONNA BE
WAITING IN LINE FOR YOUR SPOT.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE STAGGERED
IT- BY HALF HOUR SO THE NORTHERN
REGION WILL GO LIVE FIRST SO
YOU'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE A THIRD
OF THE PRISONS THAT ARE
ELIGIBLE- TO BOOK VISITS. AND
HALF HOUR LATER THE CENTRAL
REGION COMES ONLINE AND THEN A
HALF HOUR LATER THE SOUTHERN
REGION COMES ONLINE. THAT BIG
RUSH IS GENERALLY WITHIN THAT
FIRST THIRTY MINUTES- TAKE TO
GET IT SO WHAT WE FOUND IS BY
DOING THAT WE'RE HAVING LESS
LESS CONGESTION WITHIN THE
SYSTEM SO PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET
THROUGH- AND THAT THE COMPLAINTS
OF HAVE ALL BUT GONE AWAY. SINCE
WE'VE GONE TO THAT- BUT WE STILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR
STAKEHOLDERS AND GET FEEDBACK
FROM THE EMIT FAMILY COUNCILS-
YOU KNOW TO. TRY JUST TRYING TO
MAKE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE
PROCESS AS USER FRIENDLY AS
POSSIBLE I APPRECIATE THAT A LOT
OF THE- IT'S WELL IT'S HOW WE DO
IT RIGHT THAT MATTER ABSOLUTELY-
TWO OF THEM TO THE FAMILIES- I
HEARD ISSUES ABOUT. THE QUALITY
OF THE CALLS. I'M IF YOU COULD.
TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
THAT- OURS IN THE ACCESS TO
COLLEEN. THAT CERTAINLY SO AT
GENERALLY PHONES ARE AVAILABLE
AND- DAVIS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG FROM EIGHT TO ELEVEN. IN
THE MORNING TILL TEN OR ELEVEN
AT NIGHT- BUT IT IN THE EVENT
THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH- A
PHONE ACTUAL WALL PHONE OR
TABLET. I'M THE PROVIDERS THE
CURRENT PHONE CONTRACT PROVIDER
HAS A TWENTY FOUR. HOUR SEVEN
DAY A WEEK- MANTLE NINE- FOR
BOTH INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS
AND THEIR FAMILIES TO CALL TO
REPORT ANY ISSUES. ARE THEY HAVE
A INVESTIGATIVE SUITE OF TOOLS
THAT WILL CAN. NARROW DOWN TO AN
ACTUAL CERTAIN LINE OF A CERTAIN
PHONE SO. AS SOON AS WE HEAR
ABOUT THESE ISSUES WE-
DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THE
ACTUAL DETAILS BEHIND IT SO THAT
WE CAN TROUBLESHOOT RIGHT AWAY-
ARE OFFENDER COMMUNICATION TEAM
MEETS WITH THE VENDOR- THREE
TIMES A WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THESE
TYPES OF ISSUES AND WORK THROUGH
THOSE- ANY- ANY A- TECHNICAL OR
GARBLED CALLS THAT YOU HAVE I
MEAN I WILL. KNOW THAT I THINK
WE WERE NOTIFIED OF ONE
INSTITUTION THAT HAD A WEEK OF
LIKE RANDOMLY DROPPED
INTERMITTENT CALLS. AND TO SO IT
WOULD BE ENDED UP DOING A- GOING
BACK IN ISOLATING THE ACTUAL
NUMBER OF MINUTES. THAT ACTUAL
MINUTE WHEN THE CALL WAS DROPPED
TO SEE IF IT WAS LIKE A AN ISSUE
WITH THE HANDSET OR THE LINE AND
THEY'VE SINCE RESULT THAT SO. WE
ALWAYS ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS AND
THEIR FAMILIES TO PLEASE USE THE
HOTLINE NUMBER OF THAT THERE'S A
POSTER- THAT'S- IN THE VISITING
ROOM SITS ABOVE EACH PHONE.
THANK IN EVERY HOUSING UNIT HAS
A ONE EIGHT HUNDRED NUMBER. IS
ONE EIGHT SIX SIX NUMBER TO CALL
AND REPORT THESE ISSUES YOU CAN
ALSO EMAIL. YOUR FOR THE FAMILY
MEMBERS CAN EMAIL SURVEY. THE
MORE INFORMATION THAT THEY
PROVIDE ON AROUND THAT DATE AND
TIME THAT THAT THE COLD. THE
ISSUE THAT WAS- HAPPENS. THE
FASTER THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THE
ISSUE. EIGHT LET GLAD TO HEAR
THAT. ON VIDEO CALLS OF OUR
INDIVIDUALS. WILL THEY RECEIVE
FREE VIDEO CALLING. ON THE
TABLETS OR- I KNOW. VIDEO CALLS
COST SOMETHING LIKE TWELVE
DOLLARS AN HOUR. IS THAT. COULD
YOU EXPLAIN THAT. WHOLE SYSTEM
HERE SURE THAT'S ALL PART OF OUR
OUR PHONE CONTRACT THAT INCLUDES
THE- THE EMAILS THE PHONE THE
ACTUAL PHONE PHYSICAL PHONE
CALLS AND VIDEO CALLS SO. THE
CURRENT CONTRACT PROVIDES
FIFTEEN MINUTES OF FREE VIDEO
CALLS. THROUGH OTHER TABLETS
EVERY TWO WEEKS TO GET THIRTY
MINUTES OF FREE VIDEO. VIDEO
CHATS PER MONTH AMOUNTS OF GAS
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S TWENTY
OF THE TABLET ON THE TABLET THAT
. AND SO TO USE THAT YOU WILL
USE THE- TABLETS YOU ACTUALLY GO
TO A LITTLE DOCKING STATION OR
KIOSK IN HOUSING UNIT. AND YOU.
HAVE YOUR SET TIME AND YOU SET
UP YOUR YOUR TABLET AND YOU
CONNECT AND YOU HAVE YOUR VIDEO
CHAT. THAT IS AGAIN THAT'S
DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE HOUR IN
PERSON VISITATION THAT HAVE. AS
THROUGH THE TABLETS- AND SO THAT
IS AGAIN FOR THIRTY MINUTES FREE
EVERY MONTH AND AFTER THAT IT'S
TWENTY CENTS PER MINUTE. AS PART
OF OUR CURRENT CONTRACT. YEAH.
SO THE M. YEAH BECAUSE I THINK
THE COST WHEN YOU GO ABOVE AND
BEYOND RIGHT THE COST OF THAT-
CAN BE PRETTY HEFTY- AT TWELVE
DOLLARS TWELVE DOLLARS AN HOUR
IT WOULD END UP BEING. IS THAT
SOUND RIGHT TO YOU. YEAH- IF WE
WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
WAGES OF. AND I AND I DEFINITELY
IT IS KNOWLEDGE I BUT I IT'S NOT
THEIR ONLY FORM OF COMMUNICATION
AGAIN THEY HAVE FREE CALLING.
AND THAT IS ACTUALLY BEEN PLAYED
OUT HOW MUCH THEY'RE TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF IT ON AVERAGE. IN
THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF TWENTY
TWENTY TWO WE AVERAGED ABOUT
THIRTY SIX MILLION MINUTES PER
MONTH. AND FOR JANUARY FEBRUARY
AND MARCH WERE AVERAGING SEVENTY
ONE MILLION MINUTES OF JUST
PHONE CALLS SO. INCARCERATED
VISUALS ARE TOO AND THE FAMILIES
ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FREE
CALLING IT AGAIN VIDEO CALLS
VIDEO CHATS ARE NOT THE ONLY
FORM OF COMMUNICATION. THEY ARE
A VERY HELPFUL TOOL THE
KNOWLEDGE THAT- BUT IT'S NOT THE
ONLY FORM OF COMMUNICATION.
GREAT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT AND
THEN FINALLY THE VIA PATH
CONTRACT. OF IF THE LAW CHANGES-
WITH THE GREEN MINT- CAN BE
AMENDED- HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF
OTHER CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE
TO REDUCE THE COST OF THE STATE
. SO GENERALLY THAT THE STATE
HAS A CURRENT SIX YEAR CONTRACT
AND THE ONLY. CERTAINLY THE WAY
THE ONLY THING IS YOU CAN- AND
THEN THE ARE FOR LIKE LENGTH OF
TIME. OR COST INCREASES OR
DECREASES IN THIS CASE- SO. WE
ARE BOUND BY STATE CONTRACTING
LAWS SO WE IT'S- THAT WOULD
THAT. THE PROVIDER CAME TO US
AND BUT THROUGH MUTUAL AGREEMENT
BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE TO
AGREE TO. REDUCE THEIR THEIR
RATE FOR US THAT THEY DID
BECAUSE IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
FOR BOTH PARTIES TO DO SO WE IN
MARCH OF TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY
TWENTY ONE SIGNED A SIX YEAR
CONTRACT WITH THAT WITH THAT
PROVIDER TO PROVIDE A SET A SET
RATE AND SO WE ARE- STILL WITHIN
THAT CONTRACTING WINDOW- AND SO.
RIGHT NOW THE RATE THAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE IS WHAT WILL BE
PROVIDED- THROUGH THIS CONTRACT
PERIOD. YOU KNOW DEFINITELY.
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BED WHEN IT
COMES UP FOR REBID- BUT IT'S
PART OF AN OVERALL PACKAGE SO
IT'S NOT JUST THE RATE THAT'S
PROVIDED TO THE STATE IT'S ALSO.
ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE
MAINTENANCE THE ROLL THE TABLETS
THE FULL INVESTIGATIVE SUITE OF
TOOLS THAT IS PROVIDED SO IT'S
NOT JUST THE RATE. IN OUR
CONTRACT IT IS A VERY A DETAILED
SCOPE OF WORK WHICH I WOULD BE
MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU
FROM THE R. F. P. IF YOU'D LIKE.
YOU LIKE THAT OKAY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- UHHUH.
IN A REQUEST FOR THREE MILLION
DOLLARS. IN ALONG WITH THAT AND
YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE EXISTING.
ARE THOSE GOING TO BE IN
CONFLICT AND IS THAT GOING TO
CREATE A- POTENTIAL ISSUE WITH
US HAVING TO PAY ANY PENALTIES
OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH THE
EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
SO THAT THREE MILLION WINDS UP
BALLOONING UP TO SOMETHING ELSE.
I AM NOT CERTAIN- THAT'S ABOVE A
PROPOSAL THAT IS BEFORE THE
LEGISLATURE SO OKAY WE AS THE
ADMINISTRATION DON'T HAVE A
COMMENT ON ON THAT PROPOSAL BUT-
LIKE SO I CAN'T SO MIGHT BE A
LEGAL QUESTION WE NEED TO ASK IN
THE LEGISLATURE OKAY GREAT AND
AN IMPLEMENTATION QUESTION I DO.
GREAT THANK YOU. OKAY THANK. I
THINK THAT'S IT WE'RE MOVING
WE'RE GONNA THANK YOU AGAIN
THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH- IF I
HAVE ANY OTHER OF COURSE OF
ACTUALLY CENTER NEWMAN I WOULD
LIKE TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION
ON THE FRIENDS OUTSIDE CONTRACT
SORRY AND- AS I'M SITTING UP
HERE MY BRAIN. JERRY EXTRA. MY
JOB. YEAH THIS IS A TO YOU BUT
AND I WAS OKAY. OKAY SO AT THE
FOR OUTSIDE PROVIDES CHILD CARE
CLOTHING YOU HAPPEN SHOW AND-
I'M IN A IN A PROBE CLOSE- THEY
ALSO. A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO
DECOMPRESS BEFORE AND AFTER A
VISIT AND ASSISTANCE WITH PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION AND LINKS TO
SOCIAL SERVICES THAT'S WHAT THE
FRONT. AND A PROGRAM IS FUNDED
OUT OF THE QUEUE CORRECT. THANK
YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO YOUR EARNED OF
GOOD SIGNIFICANT GOODWILL FOR.
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH
APPRECIATE UP AGAIN APPRECIATE
ALL OF YOUR WORK- WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON THE PANEL WHO. AND WE
HAVE A PRESENTATION TO BE MADE.
MR GALVIN. FROM EMILIO. AND
APRIL FANG ALSO. AND GAVE
SEVERAL HI SHE. BRITAIN THIS IS-
YEAR OF AN OPTION FOR A PRISON
COMMUNICATIONS.
I WOULD YOU LIKE TO. MOVE MOVE
AHEAD I'LL GET US STARTED OKAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH OF CHAIRPERSON
DRAWS ARE MEMBERS OF THE
SUBCOMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY SPEAK TODAY I AM A
PROFANE THE CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER AS MURIEL I'M JOINED
TODAY BY OUR PUBLIC POLICY AND
ADVOCACY MANAGER THAT CALVIN AND
OUR COFOUNDER AND CTO GATES ARE
HASHI. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT
SENATOR BACKERS BUDGET REQUEST
TO FUND A ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM
FOR COMMUNICATION AND
EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY TO BE
ADMINISTERED BY C. C. R. THROUGH
THIS PILOT AMELIA IS PROPOSING
TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO VIDEO CALL
VOICE CALL ANY MESSAGING
TECHNOLOGY 210% OF CDC OUR
POPULATION AND NO COST TO THE
INCARCERATED. WE LIKE TO BRIEFLY
TALK ABOUT WHO WE ARE SB WE'LL
GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE
MULTIBILLION PREDATORY PRISON
COMMUNICATION INDUSTRY THE WERE
WORKING TO DISRUPT. AND FINALLY
TALK ABOUT SOME RECENT
REGULATORY CHANGES THAT WE
BELIEVE EMPHASIZED THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS BUDGET
REQUEST A PILOT PROGRAM. AMELIO
IS A TECHNOLOGY NONPROFIT.
WORKING TO COMBAT MASS
INCARCERATION BY DEMOCRATIZING
COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION
TECHNOLOGY IN PRISONS AND JAILS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING IN
FIVE STATES OUR MISSION IS THE
CUT RECIDIVISM AND SUSTAINABLY
REDUCE PRISON POPULATIONS IN THE
LONG TERM. WE BELIEVE ACCESS TO
ALL FORMS OF THE SEDATION REMOTE
AND IN PERSON IS ESSENTIAL TO
SUCCESSFUL REHABILITATION AND
REENTRY. LEADING TO A 22%
REDUCTION IN RECIDIVISM RATES
ACCORDING TO DECADES OF RESEARCH
. LACING THESE RESOURCES BEHIND
A PAY WALL IS COUNTER INTUITIVE
REHABILITATION. HOWEVER A PAY
WALL IS EXACTLY WHAT EXISTS IN
MOST PRISONS AND JAILS IN THE
UNITED STATES. TODAY OVER 80% OF
THE PRISON TELECOM INDUSTRY IS
CONTROLLED BY JUST TWO COMPANIES
BY A PATH AND SECURUS. THIS
DUOPOLY ENABLES THEM TO CHARGE
EXORBITANT FEES EXTRACTING MORE
THAN AN ESTIMATED ONE BILLION
DOLLAR A YEAR. BY A PATH
FORMERLY GTL IS THE CURRENT
PROVIDER OF PHONE CALLS AND
OTHER COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES
SECR. SECURUS THROUGH SUBSIDIARY
J. PAY PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED
TABLETS THE CC R. AS WELL. THE
PRICES CHARGED BY FOR PROFIT
COMPANIES ARE SO HIGH THE ONE IN
THREE FAMILIES WITH INCARCERATED
LOVED ONES HAVE GONE INTO DEBT
IN THEIR EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN
CONTACT. RATES CAN GO AS HIGH AS
FIFTEEN DOLLARS FOR A TWENTY
MINUTE PHONE CALL TO HER THAT TO
THE EIGHTEEN CENTS A NONPROFIT
LIKE EMILIO WOULD CHARGE AND YOU
BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE SORT OF
INFLATED PRICE THEY WERE TRYING
TO COMBAT. MUCH TO HIS CREDIT-
CALIFORNIA ALREADY GOES FAR
BEYOND MOST OTHER STATES AS
TODAY'S AGENDA NOTES CC ARE
CURRENTLY PROVIDES FIFTEEN
MINUTES OF FREE VIDEO CALLS AND
SEVENTEEN MINUTES THAT SEVENTY
FIVE MINUTES. OF PHONE CALLS
EVERY TWO WEEKS. WHILE WE
APPLAUD THIS- WE BELIEVE THAT
THE PROPOSED PILOT AND
DEMONSTRATE THE BENEFITS OF
OFFERING EVEN GREATER ACCESS
FREE COMMUNICATIONS. AT A
FRACTION OF THE COST AND THERE
TO CURRENT CONTRACT. IT WOULD
ALSO ALLOW CDCR TO GATHER USAGE
DATA. FOR VIDEO CALLS AND
MESSAGING WHEN THEY ARE
COMPLETELY FREE IN THE FUTURE- I
WANT TO PASS ON TO NEXT TO TALK
ABOUT SOME REGULATORY CHANGES ON
THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND STATE
LEVEL AS WELL. HI EVERYONE AGAIN
MY NAME IS NICK GALVIN ON THE
PUBLIC POLICY AND ADVOCACY
MANAGER THANK YOU FOR. THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. WE
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE
RECENT DEVELOPMENTS OF THE STATE
AND FEDERAL LEVEL ARE WHICH
FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE BUILDING
MOMENTUM AROUND THE FREE
COMMUNICATIONS MOVEMENT. THE
WALK CONNECTICUT IN CALIFORNIA
ARE THE FIRST STATES TO MAKE
PHONE CALLS FREE FOR THE
INCARCERATED THERE'S SINCE BEEN
A GROUND SWELL OF LEGISLATION
WITH SIMILAR BILL SUBMITTED IN
MORE THAN A DOZEN STATES IN THE
PAST SIX MONTHS. EVEN IF ONLY A
FEW OF THESE EFFORTS PASS IT'S
CLEAR THAT SOON CALIFORNIA
CONNECTICUT WILL NOT BE ALONE IN
PROVIDING FREE COMMUNICATION TO
THE INCARCERATED. HOWEVER AS
MORE STATES DO BEGIN TO OFFER
FREE COMMUNICATIONS IF THEY
DON'T PUSH FOR REDUCED RATES OR
LOOK FOR NEW PROVIDERS THEIR
BUDGETS WILL NEED TO INCREASE TO
MEET THE INCREASED DEMAND. ON
THAT WE SEE UNDER THESE EXPANDED
FREE COMMUNICATION PILOTS. EVEN
IN SAN FRANCISCO THE FIRST
COUNTY TO MAKE COMMUNICATION
COMPLETELY FREE. THE COUNTY IS
PAYING VIA PATH NINETY DOLLARS
PER DEVICE PER MONTH. AS A
NONPROFIT OUR COST FOR THE SAME
SERVICES WOULD BE HALF OF THAT
AT THIRTY NINE DOLLARS. BECAUSE
OF THIS WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT CALIFORNIA BEGIN TO EXPLORE
NEW VENDORS THAT ARE MISSION
DRIVEN RATHER THAN PROFIT
DRIVEN. CENTER BACKERS PROPOSED
PILOT IS A GREAT FIRST STEP IN
THAT DIRECTION. ADDITIONALLY
WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE MARTHA
RIGHT REACT EARLIER THIS YEAR
THE FCC HAS BEEN GRANTED
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED
OVERSIGHT OF THE PRESENT
COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY. THIS
INCLUDES THE ABILITY TO REGULATE
BOTH INTERSTATE AND INTRASTATE
COSTS AS WELL AS MORE ADVANCED
FORMS OF COMMUNICATION TO
INCLUDE VIDEO CALLS ANY
MESSAGING AS WELL. THE FCC IS
ALSO EXPECTED TO ISSUE NEW RATE
CAPS IN JULY TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
WITH STATES ONLY BEING ALLOWED
NINETY DAYS TO GET IN COMPLIANCE
. STATES WHO HAVE CONTRACTS WITH
FOR PROFIT VENDORS WHOSE RATES
WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY EXCEED
THOSE CAPS AS THEY DID WHEN THE
RATES WERE LAST PUT IN FOR PHONE
CALLS. WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A WAY
TO MAKE UP FOR THOSE COSTS. IT
WILL MOST LIKELY BE EITHER THE
INCARCERATED OR TAXPAYERS WILL
BE EXPECTED TO PICK UP THAT TAB.
AND EVEN WORST POTENTIAL OUTCOME
IS THAT TO SAVE ON COSTS THE
QUALITY AND AVAILABILITY OF
THESE SERVICES WILL CONTINUE TO
DIMINISH. FOR THE REASONS
OUTLINED TODAY I HOPE WE HAVE
DEMONSTRATED THE POTENTIAL VALUE
OF A PILOT PROGRAM LIKE THIS. WE
THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. WE
WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO
ACTUALLY SERVE. THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. GREAT. THIS IS THERE HOW
SHE- OKAY NO COMMENTS. ALL
RIGHT- UNDER OKAY. KIND OF
ALMOST THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED
THE OTHER PANEL. IN YOUR PAST
EXPERIENCES WITH THE HOWEVER
MANY. AGENCIES YOU'VE BEEN ABLE
TO. GO INTO IF YOU DO PILOT
PROJECTS WITH THEM. IT DEBT AND
DID THEY HAVE EXISTING CONTRACTS
AND WERE THERE ANY CONFLICTS
WITH THOSE EXISTING CONTRACTS.
YES WE DID. ALL IN ALL CASES THE
HAVE EXISTING CONGRESS LEADER
SECURES ORGEL TELLING NOW VIA
PATH. WERE ABLE TO OPERATE THOSE
INDEPENDENTLY. BECAUSE THERE
THERE WAS A NON EXCLUSIVE
RECALLS THAT. WERE THERE WAS NOT
A NON. EXCLUSIVE RECALLS MOST
CASES SO WE'RE ABLE TO OPERATE
AS- A SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO.
WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT
IF. IF THEY HAVE A CURRENT
CONTRACT YEAH WEIRD THAT'S ALL
REYES ON THE RESEARCHER OKAY
SORRY HE'S IN CALIFORNIA IF YOU
. THINK TRANSACTION. I'M GO
AHEAD SENATOR. YEAH ASSEMBLY.
COMMISSIONER RECESSION BRIDGE.
THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING SO
YOU KNOW IT'S VERY ADMIRABLE
THAT. ADD THE STATE OF OREGON
YOURSELVES REDUCE THIS. THIS IS
ACTION INTERESTING WAY FOR US TO
APPROACH. THIS PARTICULAR
SUBJECT SO TO WATCH- THIS IS
INTERESTING US INITIATIVE
APPROPRIATE POST BEFORE THE
STATE SENATE. AND MAYBE YOU CAN
ANSWER BUT WHAT WHAT'S THE
WHAT'S THE CONTRACTING KIND OF
PROCESS THAT WE ARE. EITHER
ENTERING INTO IN THE MIDDLE OF.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT FOR YOU FOLKS
BUT IT DID DO A PILOT WE DON'T
TYPICALLY DO A SOLE SOURCE. I
WENT DIRECTLY FROM. THE IT'S
GOING TO ALLEGE BUT FROM THE
SUBCOMMITTEE RACES IS KIND OF
NEW TO ME- WHAT WHAT'S YOUR HOPE
YOU'RE THERE YOU KNOW THAT THAT
WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY
NEED TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE
BUDGET I ASSUME. I CAN GIVE A
SHOT AT THAT SO WE ARE SPEAKING
TO THE BUDGET REQUEST THAT
ACTUALLY- INDICATE THAT THERE IS
A WILLINGNESS FOR A PILOT
EMILIO'S A NONPROFIT AND WE DO
NOT OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE THE
ACTUAL PROVIDER FOR THIS PILOT
AT ALL- WE DO LIKE TO FUNCTION
AS AN ALTERNATIVE AS A CHOICE-
FOR THE STATE. IF WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY OBVIOUSLY TO SERVE
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT WE
WILL LOVE TO- BUT- RIGHT NOW
WE'RE NOT SURE THAT'S A MISSILE
NEIL. IF YOU DON'T MIND BUT SHE
SAID YOU KNOW THIS IS SORT OF.
NEW FOR ME RIGHT SO YOU KNOW WE
DO LOTS OF THINGS HERE BUT I I'M
I'M NOT A REMOVED RECALL
RECENTLY HEARING FROM A
PARTICULAR VENDOR TO SOUGHT
SOLVE. A PROCESS HOW. WHAT'S THE
LAW CUTS FOR A PROPOSAL LIKE
THIS. AND HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT
. WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
TO REVIEW THE DETAILS OF THIS
PROPOSAL OF COURSE BECAUSE IT'S-
WE'RE HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST
TIME AS WELL HAPPY TO- LOOK INTO
IT AND PROVIDE ANALYSIS TO YOU
AND YOUR STAFF. SENATOR IN TERMS
OF THE BROADER CONTEXT. I MEAN
THERE ARE HAVE BEEN CASES I CAN
THINK OF IN THE PAST WHERE.
BUDGET SUB COMMITTEES HAVE.
APPROVED PILOT PROGRAMS- AND
AWARDED FUNDING TO. DIRECTLY TO
SPECIFIC AND- ORGANIZATIONS TO
PILOT THOSE PROGRAMS- I'LL BE
DISCUSSING ONE LATER IN MY
COMMENTS. ON THE PAROLE HEARING
PROCESS- SO THAT I MEAN AND BY
THAT I MEAN OF COURSE THAT WAS
ULTIMATELY APPROVED ADOPTED IN
THE FALLS BY THE FULL COMMITTEE
EXETER AND LEGISLATURE BUT- SO I
THINK THERE HAVE BEEN EXAMPLES
OF THAT IN TERMS OF HOW. IT
INTERACTS WITH CONTRACTING CODE
AND THE EXISTING. CONTRACT WITH-
BY A PATH I REALLY DON'T THINK I
COULD. CALM EXPECTED BUT THAT'S
SOMETHING I THINK WE WILL HAVE
TO FIGURE OUT YET. I WOULD
IMAGINE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO YOU
KNOW DO OUR BEST TO WORK WITH
YOUR STAFF TO HELP ADDRESS. ANY
QUESTION OR ANY GOOD YOU KNOW
BECAUSE IT'S TRUE THIS IS TRUE
INTERESTING WHATEVER MAKE SURE
THAT I HAVE A- LARGER CONTEXT
AWARE THEY'RE NOT MAKING FALSE
PROMISES. OR OTHERWISE MAKE YOU
SEE MORE COMPTON HAS TO. YEAH I.
YOU KNOW CLEARLY WE'RE NOT RIGHT
NOW SAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
ACTION AND- GIVE A CONTRACT OUT.
IT WAS TO JUST EXPOSE US TO. A
POTENTIAL A POSSIBILITY JUST TO
LOOK AT PRISON COMMUNICATIONS.
FROM A DIFFERENT LENS AND- AND
THAT WAS IT SO I THINK. OUR OUR
QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU KNOW SHOULD
BE ABOUT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT
WATER HAZARD MY QUESTION AND I
DON'T KNOW BECAUSE ABOUT
TECHNOLOGY I THINK IT'S- JACQUI
WONDERFUL THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING
AN ALTERNATIVE. THAT IS BOTH-
PROBABLY BETTER TECHNOLOGY BUT
ALSO. IMMENSELY CHEAPER- TO
ENRICH THEIR FAMILIES SURVEY
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I HAD
A CONTEXT. IN WHICH YOU CONSIDER
HOW THIS WOULD BE INTEGRATED
INTO THE LARGER BUDGET PROCESS
OF THANK YOU SORRY TO. KNOW
ABOUT YOUR GOOD- AB ON. SEGUE
FROM FROM THAT IS HOW ARE YOU
ABLE TO OFFER. SUCH A LOWER
PRICES THAN YOU GAVE EXAMPLES OF
THE DIFFERENCE IN IN PRICING
WITH BY A PATH. HOW ARE YOU ABLE
. TO DO THAT THAT'S A PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT. UGH YEAH- WEALTH OF
THE FOR IN A MOST OBVIOUS
ANSWERS WHERE WE'RE GONNA WE'RE
NONPROFIT SO WE ARE OFFERING AT
COST- WE ARE ALSO DEVELOPING AND
DEPLOYING OUR OWN SOFTWARE WE
ARE NOT- LICENSING OUT TO
OTHERS- WHO THAT MIGHT LICENSE
OUT TO SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN
PASSING THOSE COSTS. ALONG TO
THE DLC WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE
HAPPENING A LOT OF STATES WITH
THE LARGER FOR PROFIT COMPANIES-
OUR TECHNOLOGY IS NEWER- FASTER
IT'S MORE A MORE STREAMLINED-
AND WE HAVE. YOU KNOW IT LOOKS
LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY THOUGH A LOT
OF US USING THE MODERN. MODERN
AGE AND SO- WE HAVE A TEAM YOU
KNOW GAVE CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF
THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS- BUT OUR
OUR TECHNOLOGY IS ESSENTIALLY
YOU KNOW WE ARE. WE ARE FREE OF
SOME OF THE BLOATWARE THE TERM
YOU KNOW YOU SEE A LOT OF THE
EXTRA THINGS GETTING ADDED ON.
ON THE CONTINUED TO ADD
ADDITIONAL COSTS WE ARE VERY
FOCUSED AND STREAMLINED ON
PROVIDING A COMMUNICATIONS
SERVICE SCHEDULING- AND REALLY
JUST THE BASICS THAT ARE NEEDED
. TO PROVIDE THAT'S REALLY
ESSENTIAL SERVICE. AND WITH
REGARDS TO- THIS HAS TO DO A
LITTLE BIT WITH THE PILOT IN
TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE PILOT.
HOW DOES HOW DOES NOT GET.
DETERMINED OR I GUESS IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT WE THEN ASK YOU.
TO YOU OR ANY OTHER COMPANY THAT
WANTS TO PUT IN A PROPOSAL AND
THE REASON I ASK THAT IS
BECAUSE- YOU KNOW THE-
CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM IS.
PRETTY BIG EVEN THOUGH IT'S-
THE- POPULATION HAS DECREASED.
EVERY YEAR IT'S STILL FAST AND
SO. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU
COULD SCALE UP TO THAT YOU COULD
. I KNOW YOU DOING PILOTS.
TRYING TO JUMP AHEAD HERE BUT-
OKAY DO SOMETHING THEN THE
SMALLER SCALE VERSES THE SIZE OF
CALIFORNIA'S PRISON. IS NOT THE
SAME. YEAH FOR SURE AND SO WHEN
IT COMES 210% IT'S A NUMBER THAT
WE ACTUALLY PREVIOUSLY I'VE
SPOKEN WITH YOU SEE ARE ABOUT-
WE WANT TO SET A NUMBER THAT IS.
SMALL ENOUGH THAT YOU KNOW ALLOW
US TO LEARN A LOT OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT SERVING
OF THE CALIFORNIA HAS A UNIQUE
SPACE SO HAVE A LOT OF LEARNING
BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALSO MAKING
SURE THAT IS LARGE ENOUGH THAT
WE ACTUALLY ARE MAKING AN
IMPACT. IN THE LEARNING SO WE'RE
GETTING FROM- THING BECAUSE OF
THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE SERVING IS
MEANINGFUL ENOUGH AND SO. THAT
BEING SAID WE'RE VERY WILLING TO
WORK WITH THIS COMMITTEE OR CC
ARE ANY OF THE AGENCIES THAT
ARE. IMPLEMENTING THE PILOTS- TO
THIS TO DECIDE IF THERE IS A
BETTER AND MORE SUITABLE-
PERCENTAGE. WHEN IT COMES TO
SCALING- OUR TECHNOLOGY ENSURES
THAT WE CAN SCALE QUITE FAST-
ESCAPE MENTIONED JUST NOW WE'RE
IN THE STATE OF IOWA- WE
ACTUALLY STARTED A- FACILITY BY
FACILITY SO IN A SENSE A PILOT
AS WELL- AND THE WHEN IT COMES
TO SCALING TO THE STATE.
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OUR
FUNDAMENTAL- TECHNOLOGY
UNDERLYING THOSE SERVICES WE
SKILL QUITE FAST AND WE WERE
ABLE TO EXPAND OUR TEAM. SAID
CIVICALLY CUSTOMER SERVICE SO
THAT WE MAKE SURE YOU KNOW FOLKS
WHO HAVE QUESTIONS UTILIZING OUR
SERVICE. AND GET IN TOUCH WITH
US AND GET THEIR- PROBLEM SOLVED
AS WE SCALE OUR TEAM- VERY FAST
AS WELL AS OUR TECHNOLOGY
PLATFORM. IS SO- YOU KNOW MODERN
TECHNOLOGY IS BUILT TO SCALE SO.
THAT'S WHAT. WE'RE ON. I'LL JUST
ADD ON TO THAT AND SAY THAT
ALTHOUGH WE'RE NONPROFIT THE WAY
WE OPERATE AND WE HIRE IS VERY
MUCH LIKE AND YOU KNOW. ATTACK
FOR PROFIT YOU SEE OUT THERE ALL
OVER THE TECHNICAL TEAM MEMBERS
ARE FROM BIG TAX SUCH AS
FACEBOOK. GOOGLE ALL THESE BIG
COMPANIES THAT HAVE SCALED
ANSWER MILLIONS RIGHT NOW SO
GOOD A TECHNOLOGY CONSERVATIVE
TALK. RUSSIAN SPACE NEW US.
RIGHT ALTHOUGH ARE THE OLD
QUESTION ANY. COMMENTS QUESTIONS
OF MY COLLEAGUES OKAY WELL THANK
YOU IF YOU I DON'T THERE'S A
FINAL. A COMMENT YOU WANT TO
MAKE NO OKAY WELL THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE AND APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME. WE'RE GONNA. WE'RE GONNA
MOVE ON NOW TO PANEL THREE-
ABIGAIL SALIM EMPOWERING WOMEN
TO AND KAREN MCDANIEL FOUNDER
AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
PLACE FOR GRACE.
GOOD AFTERNOON WHO'S WHO WILL BE
STARTING FIRST. OKAY ABIGAIL.
OKAY. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE IS
THAT WHAT MIGHT VERY WELL THANK
YOU I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT.
HI GOOD AFTERNOON ESTEEM
CHAIRING COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS KAREN MCDANIEL I AM THE
FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
AT THE PLACE TO RACE WE HAVE
BEEN SERVING FAMILIES IMPACTED
BY INCARCERATION SINCE TWO
THOUSAND AND NINE AT SIXTEEN
CDCR PRISONS. I'M HERE TODAY TO
DISCUSS ONGOING BARRIERS TO
VISITING A LOVED ONE INSIDERS
CDCR INSTITUTION. MORE THAN
THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN
THOUSAND VISITS TO CDCR
INSTITUTIONS IN TWO THOUSAND AND
NINETEEN WERE MADE BY MINOR
CHILDREN. THAT WAS NEARLY A HALF
MILLION OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE
THE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA A
PARENTAL AND FAMILIAL
INCARCERATION. OR TO FURTHER
INCREASE THE BURDEN OF CHILDREN
AND FAMILIES THAT ARE IMPACTED
BY MASS INCARCERATION IN THIS
GREAT STATE. IT'S BEEN NOTED
HERE TODAY THE TWENTY POINT
THREE MILLION DOLLARS WAS SET
ASIDE FOR A THIRD YEAR VISITING
AND TRANSPORTATION TOOK OFF YOU
SEE OUR PRISONS. WHAT GOOD IS
TWENTY POINT THREE MILLION
DOLLARS IF ONCE FAMILIES ARRIVE
THEY CAN'T GET INSIDE THE VERY
PRESENT THAT THEY HAVE TRAVELED
TO. WHAT GOOD IS TWENTY POINT
THREE MILLION DOLLARS IF ONCE
THEY GET INSIDE THEY CANNOT STAY
FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR VISIT
BECAUSE THEY'RE FORCED TO MAKE
CHOICES THAT NO PARENT SHOULD
HAVE TO MAKE ABOUT THEIR CHILD'S
WELL BEING. WHEN I STARTED
VISITING CDCR PRISONS IN TWO
THOUSAND TWO THOUSAND AND SEVEN
WITH MY THEN INFANT AND TODDLER
CHILDREN I WAS LIMITED CHU CHU
PREMADE BOTTLES FOR A SIX HOUR
VISIT AT CALIPATRIA STATE
PRISON. WHERE TEMPERATURES OFTEN
HOVER WELL ABOVE ONE HUNDRED AND
TEN DEGREES DURING THE SUMMER.
MY DAUGHTER'S BOTTLES WOULD
SPOIL OFTEN WITHIN HOURS OF US
BEING AT OUR VISIT AND I WOULD
HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE BETWEEN
HER HUNGER AND OUR FAMILY'S
PRECIOUS TIME TOGETHER. TODAY MY
DAUGHTER IS NEARLY SEVENTEEN
YEARS OLD. AND THOSE SAME
ANTIQUATED POLICIES ARE STILL IN
PLACE. STILL ONLY TWO BOTTLES.
STILL ONLY THREE CONTAINERS OF
BABY FOOD. STILL ONLY ONE CHANGE
OF CLOTHING. STILL ONLY ONE
BLANKET. MS DS COMES TO MIND WE
TRIED TO VISIT JUST TWO WEEKS
AGO WITH HER INFANT CHILD. SHE
REPORTED THAT SHE WAS TURNED
AWAY BECAUSE HER BREAST MILK WAS
DENIED. THIS AFTER TRAVELING
FIVE HOURS STABBER HUSBAND MEET
THEIR BABY FOR THE VERY FIRST
TIME. WE HAVE COUNTLESS
EXPERIENCES FROM FAMILIES WORK
CONTINUOUSLY FACE WITH THESE
BARRIERS. YEAH I'M IS MOSTLY
VISIT PREMATURELY BECAUSE OUR
CHILDREN'S CLOTHING HAS BECOME
SOILED. FAMILIES FORCED TO FEED
THEIR TODDLERS IN NUTRITIOUS
VENDING MACHINE FOOD SUCH AS
CHIPS CANDY AND SODA OR NOT EAT
ANYTHING AT ALL YOU TO BROKEN OR
IMPROPERLY STOCKED MACHINES AND
ANTIQUATED POLICIES THEY DO NOT
ALLOW. SIMPLE TODDLER FINGER
FOODS. WE ALSO HEAR ABOUT
FAMILIES LIMITED TO ONE BLANKET
EVEN IN BELOW FREEZING
TEMPERATURES AND INCLEMENT
WEATHER. BAMBOOS ARE CONTINUALLY
TRYING TO WAIT FOR CLOTHING THAT
IS CLEARLY A YEAH ALLOWABLE YET
A LOCAL OFFICER HAS DEEMED
INAPPROPRIATE. JUST THIS WEEK
CDCR RELEASED A DRAFT OF A
VISITING POSTER DEPICTING
ALLOWABLE ITEMS AND CLOTHING. IT
IMMEDIATELY CAUSE CONFUSION AND
DISSENSION ACROSS THE STATE
AMONGST IN MAY FAMILY COUNCIL
MEMBERS AS THEY SHARED LOCAL
POLICY EACH OF THEIR PRISONS
THAT IN FACT PROHIBITED MUCH OF
WHAT THE NEW POSTER DEPICTED.
JUST TO BE CLEAR. GREEN
DINOSAURS AS DEPICTED IN CDC ARE
STILL PRESENT ARE NOT ALLOWED AT
MANY OF CITY STARS PRESENT. THIS
CAN BE VERIFIED. BY IS ALWAYS Y.
S. DAUGHTER OF SANDRA AND JUST
AS FAR AS WHO WAS TOLD TO PUT
HER GREEN DINOSAUR IN THE LOCKER
AS SHE CRIED JUST LAST YEAR.
CALIFORNIA IS ONLY ONE OF FOUR
STATES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
ALLOWS EXTENDED OVERNIGHT FAMILY
VISITS UNDERSTANDING THE
INCREDIBLE BENEFITS OF KEEPING
FAMILIES CONNECTED YET THERE ARE
NO UNIFORM POLICIES REGARDING
ALLOWABLE ITEMS INCLUDING
LINENS. SO FOR INSTANCE SOME
FAMILIES ARE ALLOWED TO BRING
SHEETS A BLANKET AND A TALL FOR
THEIR OVERNIGHT VISIT WHILE
OTHERS ARE MADE SHE USED
INSTITUTIONAL LAUNDRY. I WOULD
ASK IF ANYONE ON THIS PANEL. ON
THE DAIS WERE IN THIS ROOM WOULD
EVER SLEEP ON LINENS THAT HAVE
BEEN INSTITUTIONALLY LAUNDERED
WITH THREE THOUSAND OTHER
PEOPLE'S LAUNDRY. THAT NOT ONLY
DEFIES HEALTH AND SAFETY
STANDARDS AND LOGIC BUT IT MOST
CERTAINLY DEFIES ANY BASIC
STANDARDS OF DIGNITY FOR
FAMILIES OF THE INCARCERATED.
ALLOWABLE ITEMS AN ALLOWABLE
CLOTHING CERTAINLY ARE NOT THE
ONLY BARRIERS TO VISIT.
CURRENTLY IF YOU VISIT WITH THE
CHILD YOU MUST PRESENT AN
ORIGINAL CERTIFIED COPY OF THEIR
BIRTH CERTIFICATE EACH AND EVERY
TIME THAT YOU VISIT. IT'S NOT
BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS FORGOTTEN
BECOMES LOST OR TATTERED. YOUR
VISIT IS DENIED REGARDLESS OF
HOW FAR YOU HAVE TRAVELLED.
THOSE VITAL DOCUMENTS CAN SIMPLY
BE SCANNED AND AVAILABLE TO
VISITING STAFF. IT IS UNDUE AND
UNNECESSARY AND UNDUE AND
UNNECESSARY BURDEN FOR FAMILIES
TO BE MADE TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS
OVER AND OVER AGAIN I WOULD ASK
WERE YOU ALL KEEP YOUR BIRTH
CERTIFICATES CERTAINLY NOT IN
YOUR CAR OR YOUR PURSE. YOU KEEP
THEM LOCKED AWAY SAFELY. WE
RECENTLY HEARD FROM MISREAD US
WHO TOLD US THIS PAST WEEKEND I
FORGOT OUR BURST MY CHILDREN'S
BIRTH CERTIFICATES. MY SON IS
SIXTEEN OUR DAUGHTER FIFTEEN.
ALL THREE OF US HAVE BEEN
VISITING SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND
TEN. ASSEMBLY VISITS SINCE
TWENTY SEVENTEEN THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME I NEVER I WENT
WITHOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATES SO
I WAS HOPEFUL WE WOULD BE SHOWN
A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING AND
GRACE. INSTEAD WE WERE EVEN ABLE
TO ASK AND WERE TURNED AWAY.
GIVEN THE INCREDIBLY LONG
DISTANCES THAT MANY FAMILIES
TRAVEL TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT PRISON
VISITING POLICIES ARE UNIFORM
CONSISTENT. AND BASED AND
COMMONSENSE NOT FURTHER
TRAUMATIZED FAMILIES THAT ARE
ALREADY SUFFERING. PRISON
VISITATION POLICIES THAT
DEHUMANIZE CHILDREN AND THEIR
CAREGIVERS ONLY SERVE TO FURTHER
THE ADVERSE IMPACT OF
INCARCERATION ON FAMILIES AND
MUST CEASE. CDC ARE LISTEN TO
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
FAMILIES WERE BEST ABLE TO
HIGHLIGHT THE BARRIERS TO
VISITING AS WELL AS THE
SOLUTIONS TO THOSE BARRIERS.
AFTER LISTENING TO TESTIMONY
HERE TODAY I WOULD ALSO NOTE
THAT FAMILIES OF IT THE
INCARCERATED ARE ALSO BEST
EQUIPPED TO ANSWER MANY OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. AND
THAT I HAVE HEARD TODAY IT'S
BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING TO SIT IN
THE GALLERY AS MANY OF YOUR
QUESTIONS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE
ANSWERED BUT IN FACT. WE KNEW
THE ANSWERS. WITH THAT I WILL
TURN IT OVER TO ATTY THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISS MCDANIEL.
AFTERNOON SHARE DORADO AND
MEMBERS MY NAME IS ABBY SALIM
AND I'M CO FOUNDER OF EMPOWERING
WOMEN IMPACTED BY INCARCERATION
- I AM. SORRY JUST TO ONE SECOND
THE MIKE IS NOT CAN YOU HEAR ME
OK OKAY SORRY. MY NAME IS ABBY
SALIM AND I'M CO FOUNDER OF
EMPOWERING WOMEN IMPACTED BY
INCARCERATION I'M ALSO SYSTEM
IMPACTED NOW HAVE BEEN SERVING
THE COMMUNITY SINCE TWENTY
NINETEEN. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS
THE STRUGGLES AND WHAT WITH WHAT
FAMILIES HAVE WITH CONNECTION
ENGAGEMENT OF CAUSING TABLET
COMMUNICATIONS. SINCE AFFECTIVE
DATE OF BILL TEN OH EIGHT AM
JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY THREE
WE'VE NOTICED THE ISSUES YOUR
PHONE CALLS AND TABLET
COMMUNICATIONS HAVE INCREASE.
THE COMMUNICATION ISSUES HAS
ALWAYS BEEN THERE HOWEVER TWO
DAYS HAVE BEEN SO MUCH MORE WE
ARE CO SPONSORS OF THE OF THE
BILL TEN AWAIT AND KEPT IN
CONTACT WITH THE FAMILIES TO GET
FEEDBACK ON ANY LINGERING ISSUES
WITH COMMUNICATIONS. WE UTILIZE
OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM TO GET
FEEDBACK IN HERE ARE SOME OF THE
EXAMPLES. THAT FAMILIES HAVE RUN
INTO. FAMILIES FROM VARIOUS
FACILITIES ALL THIRTY PLUS HAVE
BEEN REPORTED LOVE ONES TRYING
TO CALL ABOUT THREE TO FIVE
TIMES BEFORE IT CONNECTS OR
IMPRESSING FIVE TO ACCEPT THE
CALL THERE IS A LONG PAUSE
BEFORE CONNECTION. AND
CONNECTION HAPPEN WHEN
CONNECTION DOES HAPPEN THE CALL
DROPS AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
JUST THIS MORNING ALONE WHEN MY
HUSBAND CALLED. I HEARD NO VOICE
AND AFTER A FIVE SECOND LAG I
HEARD THE OPERATOR. AND ANOTHER
LAG PRESSED FIVE AND THEN
ANOTHER LEG AND THEN THE CALL
DROPPED AND THIS JUST HAPPENED
JUST THIS MORNING. WE HAVE
FAMILIES LIVING OUT OF THE
COUNTRY AND THEIR LOVED ONES CAN
NO LONGER CALL AN INTERNATIONAL
PHONE NUMBER. SOME OF THE
INTERNATIONAL FAMILIES HAVE
REACHED OUT TO G. T. L. AND HAVE
RECEIVED NO RESPONSE WE ARE
FULLY AWARE OF THE EIGHT SIX SIX
NUMBER THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR
FAMILIES. AND EMAIL GTL WITH NO
RESPONSE THEY'VE EVEN TRIED TO
CONTACT THE FACILITIES BUT OF
COURSE THE FACILITY WILL SAY.
PLEASE GO BACK TO GTL. FOR THE
ANY CONNECTIVITY ISSUES. I'M ONE
OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE RUN
INTO IS. AND AT CERTAIN
FACILITIES AND EVERY YARD
THERE'S ONLY ONE TO TWO PHONES
WORKING WHICH CAUSES HARDLY ANY
COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR LOVED
ONES. SO CAN IT COULD BE ABOUT A
WEEK OR TWO BEFORE THEY ARE ABLE
TO REACH OUT TO THEIR FAMILIES.
WHEN WE HOP OVER TO THE ISSUES
WITH THE TABLETS THE FEEDBACK
HAS BEEN REPORTED. THAT THEY
HAVE DROPPED CALLS CAN'T CONNECT
TO VIDEO IT HAS TO BE DONE IT
SEVERAL TIMES TO GET THROUGH
WITH THE MESSAGING SYSTEM AND
THE VIDEO CHATS. THERE ARE
CERTAIN WORDS THAT ARE THERE ARE
ALSO CERTAIN WORDS THAT ARE
CALLED FLAG WORDS. THAT WON'T
LET MESSAGES GET APPROVED AND
SOME OF THESE FLAG WORDS ARE
EXAMPLES OF OUR EVERYDAY WORDS
SUCH AS- BLACK STARBUCKS. WHITE
MATHIS SAID TARGET COLORS
REMEMBER GUITAR ENTITLEMENT AND
THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF
WORDS THAT FAMILIES HAVE
REPORTED THAT WILL CAUSE A
MESSAGE NOT TO BE APPROVED. ONE
OF THE OTHER ISSUES WITH TABLETS
IS THAT THEY WERE MOST CONCERNED
ABOUT IS THE CROSSING OF LINES.
THE CROSSING OF LINES OF PHONE
CALLS UTILIZING TABLETS. WHILE A
FAMILY MEMBER IS TALKING TO
THEIR LOVED ONES ANOTHER
CONVERSATION CROSSES THEIR LINE.
THE CARD THE CONCERN OF
SURROUNDING THAT IS IF A CHILD
WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THEIR
FATHER OR GRANDFATHER UNCLE. AND
THERE HAD ANOTHER ANOTHER PARTY
COMES IN AND THEY'RE HAVING
INTERNET CONVERSATION IN THE
CHILD WOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR
THAT. SO THERE HAS BEEN NUMEROUS
NUMEROUS. REPORTS OF THAT. AND
JUST. IT'S JUST REALLY
DISHEARTENING THAT IT HAPPENED.
ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT THE
TABLETS WILL SAY THAT THEY HAVE
FUNDS. BUT CURRENTLY WHEN THEY
JUST SEND A MESSAGE OR TRY TO
MAKE A CALL. THE TO THE IT'LL
THEY'LL GET A MESSAGE SAYING
THEY HAVE NO FUN. AND WITH THE
FACILITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE
TABLETS AND THEY'RE USING IT BE
MESSAGING SYSTEM THAT FACILITIES
ARE ABLE TO. RENT OUT THEIR
EMAIL MESSAGING. A LOT OF
FACILITIES WILL STATE SAID THAT
THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED THEY HAVE
NO SUPPLIES OR THEY'RE OUT OF
SUPPLIES TO PRINT OUT THE
MESSAGES OR EMAILS. SO THE TURN
AROUND TIME FOR THAT IS BETWEEN
TWO TO THREE WEEKS SOMETIMES
LONGER. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE
ALSO HEARD TODAY ABOUT THE
STAGGERING OF APPOINTMENTS IT
WAS ACTUALLY I WAS GOING TO DESK
AG DISCUSS THAT TODAY IS. ONE
FAMILIES MAKING AN APPOINTMENT
FOR VIDEO VISITS OR IN PERSON
VISITS WE STILL STRUGGLE EVEN
WITH THE STAGGERING TIMES ALL
FAMILIES ARE ABLE ARE NOT ABLE
TO MAKE THEM. SOME FACILITIES
APPOINTMENTS SHOULD DROP AT SIX
AM WITHIN SECONDS THEY'RE ALL
GONE. VIDEO VISITS ARE EVEN
HARDER AT TIMES FAMILIES THAT DO
GET APPOINTMENTS AND THEY DON'T
GET THEIR EMAIL CONFIRMATIONS
UNTIL THE DAY OF. AND AT TIMES
THE LINKS. THE NEW IN WORK. THIS
IS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE SINCE
WE TRANSFERRED OVER TO GGAL WE
HAVE REPORTS OF SOME FACILITIES
NOT BEING ABLE TO CLAIM THEIR
ACCOUNT. AS A FIRST TIME VISITOR
DUE TO AN ERROR FROM THE FACE.
OF THE SOLIDITY INCORRECT
SPELLING OF THEIR NAMES ARE
MIDDLE INITIAL NOT INCLUDED. THE
FACILITIES THERE ARE THE MOST
VISITED FOR EXAMPLE WOULD BE
CALIPATRIA STATE PRISON ONLY HAS
A HUNDRED AND TWELVE SLOTS WITH
A POPULATION OF NINETEEN HUNDRED
AVAILABLE. WHICH LEAVES A
HUNDRED FAMILIES NOT BEING ABLE
TO GET AN APPOINTMENT. YES THERE
IS A WALK IN PROCESS HOWEVER NOT
ALL ARE ABLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED.
THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY
ISSUES THAT FAMILIES RUN INTO
AND OUR GOAL WITH SB TEN AWAY
WAS TO KEEP FAMILIES CONNECTED.
AND TO CONTINUE THE BOND AND
EFFORTS OF REHABILITATION DUE TO
THESE ISSUES THE FAMILY
CONNECTIONS HAVE BEEN MINIMIZED
AND STRAINED. THANK YOU. WELL I
APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE WORK
THAT YOU DO- AND EVERY DAY. AND
REPRESENTING THE B. INVOICES FOR
THOSE FAMILIES AND- OR ARE YOU
CAR SERRATED. OF WE WANT TO HAVE
A SPECIAL PANEL THAT ZEROED IN
ON THESE ON THESE ISSUES AND-
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE YOU'RE SO
IMPORTANT COMING TO SHARE. WITH
US I'M- I JUST AT SEA. I'M. CAN
YOU. TALK A LITTLE BIT YOU MIGHT
HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS IS- WHAT'S
IT LIKE IN THE VISITATIONS
SPACES AVAILABLE. IN THE
INSTITUTIONS. SO THE EXAMPLE
THAT I GAVE WAS MY CO FOUNDER
IS- A VISITOR AT CALIPATRIA
STATE PRISON AND SHE'S ALSO- AT
A MEMBER OF IFC SHOW SHE HAS OF
THE UPS THERE'S NINETEEN
HUNDRED. AS A POPULATION THERE'S
ONLY A HUNDRED AND TWELVE SLOTS
AVAILABLE AND EVERY YARD. SO
THAT. THE FAMILY STILL STRUGGLED
TO FIGHT FOR APPOINTMENTS SHE
LOGS. AD I THINK SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA'S AT SEVEN. SO ALL
PLAYERS WILL BE GONE AT SEVEN OH
FIVE. AND THAT LEAVES YOU'RE
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT OLDER
OLDER LADIES THAT AREN'T TECH
SAVVY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET ON
THE GET ON VSA AND MAKE AN
APPOINTMENT. AND THEY KEEP THEM
ONCE THEY LEARNED THEY STILL TRY
BUT THEY STILL CAN GET IT SO
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE
STRUGGLE WITH EVERY WEEK FOR
SINCE CALL THAT HAPPENED. HAS IT
CHANGED THE- BETTER WORSE
WHATEVER SINCE CO WOULD YOUR
KOBE DURING COVERT WELL OF
COURSE IT WAS FORCED DURING
COVERT BUT NOW- THEY THEY THEY
CREATED A WALK IN PROCESS BUT
AGAIN WALK IN IT'S NOT A 100%
THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET
A VISIT. SO WHY WOULD I TELL MY
MOM WHO DROVE SIX HOURS AWAY TO
MOM LET'S TRY TO GET A WALK IN
APPOINTMENT AND THEN BE TURNED
AWAY. MMHM END OF THE HOTLINE
THERE WAS MENTION OF A OF A
HOTLINE THAT'S AVAILABLE BILL BE
ABLE TO REPORT ALL THESE ISSUES
CORRECT. MAJORITY OF THE TIME I
EVEN TRY TO CALL THE HOTLINE AT
ONE POINT AND WHAT THEY TELL ME
IS TO GO BACK TO THE FACILITY.
BUT WHEN WE TALK TO THE FACILITY
THEY SAY YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA
CALL YOU GOTTA CALL DETAIL
BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR ISSUE. OR
IF YOU KNOW MY HUSBAND CALLS AND
THE CALLS KEEP GETTING DROPPED.
AND WE HAVE TO CALL GTL THEY SAY
NO IT'S NOT IT'S THERE'S NOTHING
WRONG WITH YOUR CONNECTIVITY
AND- I DON'T GET IT. IT CAN'T BE
MY CELL PHONE CARRIER. THAT'S
WHAT THEY MEAN BY THE HOTLINE IS
TO CALL RIGHT YEAH WELL THEY
THEY HAVE A HOTLINE THAT. THE
YOUNG LADY EARLIER STATED THAT
THERE'S POSTERS ON THE VISITING
ROOMS HOWEVER WHEN THE FAMILIES
UTILIZE IT. IT THEY'VE- EVER
RARELY GET ANY TYPE OF RESPONSE.
MMHM OKAY- AND FOR YOU I KNOW
YOU. GAVE EXAMPLES BUT IF YOU
CAN. SORT OF SUM UP. OF TWENTY
INDIVIDUALS HAVE. ACCESS TO
COMMUNICATIONS WHEN THEY NEED
THEM AND WHEN THEY WANT THEM.
IT'S HARD AT TIMES THERE'S NOT
ALL FACILITIES HAVE THE TABLETS.
SO IT IT'S HARD TO ADD SOME SOME
FACILITIES HAVE IN ONE YARD TO
SAY MY HUSBAND IS N. B. YARD.
AND THEY HAVE A PHONE THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE SIX PHONES BUT
ONLY TWO PHONES ARE AVAILABLE.
SO THE CALLS ARE VERY ARE STILL
VERY LIMITED. AND WE DON'T HAVE
TABLETS SO WE DON'T GET THE- THE
MESSAGING- ACTION THAT AT OTHER
FACILITIES YOU. SO IT'S STILL
IT'S STILL A STRUGGLE. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO THE TABLETS GETTING
TO YOU I JULY THAT'S- WHAT WAS
SAID TODAY. I OKAY ANY QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS I DISCOUNT IT THANK
YOU ANYTHING FIGURING OF VOICE.
FOR YOUR COMMUNITY THANK YOU FOR
ENSURING THAT WE HAVE. AN
ADDITIONAL SET OF IN SUCH A
THING IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE
CONSIDER THE WORK THEY'RE DOING
SOMETHING YOU KNOW PLEASED TO
CONTINUE. IN THE WORK YOU'RE
DOING. OKAY CAN I JUST- HAVE
SOMEONE FROM CDC ARE. STILL HERE
.
THANK YOU FOR STAMOS WILL CLAIM
THE MISTER DAVIS SIR J. TWO. OF
THESE HOURS- YOU HEARD SOME OF
THE TESTIMONY RIGHT NOW AND- SO
I JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE FROM
YOU AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY
TO. RESPOND ARE ANY COMMENTS.
THAT I AT THE END ABSOLUTELY
APPRECIATE- AND ENCOURAGE THEM
TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE THAT'S HOW
WE FIX THE PROBLEM SO WE
DEFINITELY HAD KNOWLEDGE. IT'S
NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM MIGHT AND
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT IT
IS A PERFECT SYSTEM- I WILL
DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO LOOK
INTO THE EIGHT SIX SIX NUMBER
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY TRIED IT
MYSELF THE OTHER DAY JUST BEFORE
I CAME TO THE HEARING TO MAKE
SURE AND I WAS ABLE TO GET TO A
LIVE PERSON- AND HAVE AN ISSUE
RECORDED SO. THERE'S A
DISCONNECT THERE AND I DON'T
KNOW WHAT IT IS SO WE'RE GOING
TO RESOLVE IT AND AS I MENTIONED
DURING MY TESTIMONY OR OFFENDER
COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WITHIN OUR
I. T. SERVICES MEETS WITH THE
VENDOR THREE TIMES A WEEK. TO GO
OVER GO OVER THESE ISSUES ARE
OUT A DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUE
MISTER DAVIS BUT- IN RESPONSE TO
I THINK THE COMMENT THAT WAS
MADE ABOUT THE A LIST OF ITEMS
THAT YOU CAN BRING TO VISITATION
THAT IS. OUR ATTEMPT TO
STANDARDIZE ACROSS THE
INSTITUTION SO THAT WE DON'T
HAVE DIFFERENT RULES BETWEEN
INSTITUTIONS AND SO THERE IS A
VERY DETAILED LIST OF ITEMS THAT
YOU CAN BRING IN- AND SO I
DEFINITELY KNOWLEDGE THAT- IF
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU
WANTED OUT ON ON. NO ABSOLUTELY
IT'S JUST AN ATTEMPT TO
STANDARDIZED- CLOTHING- IDMS ARE
ALLOWED TO BE BROUGHT IN SO THAT
WE DON'T HAVE INSTITUTIONS THAT
ARE IMPLEMENTING THEIR OWN RULES
THESE ARE DEPARTMENTAL THIS IS
THIS IS THE CLOTHING TYPE THAT'S
ALLOWED THESE ARE THE- OF
WHATEVER OTHER ITEMS ARE ALLOWED
. THE JUST SO THAT HE SAID THE
SAME ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT
THAT'S THE PARTICULARLY THE
POSTER THAT. SHE MENTIONED. I
DID ALSO WANTED TO GO BACK TO-
THE ON MY THE VISITING
APPLICATION. AGAIN YES VISITS
ARE VERY POPULAR AND THAT'S WHY
WE HAVE THREE DAYS OF A
VISITING- AND SO I KNOW IT IS
TRUE THAT VISITS DO YOU GET.
LIKE A BETTER TERM GOBBLED UP IN
THE FIRST FEW MINUTES BUT AS
THERE'S A CANCELLATION WE DO
ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO. LOG BACK IN.
ANOTHER AT ANOTHER TIME DURING
THE DAY BECAUSE OF SOMEONE
CANCELS THAT VIDEO. VISIT OR
THAT VIDEO THAT VISIT
APPOINTMENT TIME COMES BACK. I'M
OPEN FOR SOMEONE TO LOG INTO SO.
I WOULD LOVE TO GET THEIR
CONTACT INFORMATION I THINK
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
COMMITTED TO AFTER THE HEARING
LAST YEAR- WHERE WE HAD HEARD A
LOT OF STAKEHOLDER- I'M INPUT.
HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE ISSUES
I THINK THAT. THAT THEY ARE
FACING IS TO HAVE THESE
DIALOGUES AND DISCUSSIONS WITH
THEM AND I WOULD DEFINITELY HOPE
THAT THEY WOULD GIVE ALL
COMFORTABLE GIVING ONE OF US ARE
CONTACT THEIR CONTACT
INFORMATION. THAT WE CAN START
TO WORK TO THIS I THINK THERE
WERE SOME. ACTUALLY SOME CHANGES
THAT WERE MADE AS OF THE HEARING
LAST YEAR- WE- DEFINITELY
COMPLETED THE- TRANSPORTATION
BUS CONTRACT WE LOOKED AT
PROVIDING OTHER HEALTHY OPTIONS
IN. THE VISITING ROOMS BECAUSE
OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD
IN THE COMMITTEE. OKAY YEAH AND
WHAT WE WANT OBVIOUSLY TO SEE
AS- THE CHANGES ARE. BEING MADE
FOR THE- FOR THE WELL BEING OF
THOSE FAMILIES AND THOSE AND
THOSE IN NIGHT SO- YOU KNOW IT.
IT DOES OF. IT IS BOTHERSOME TO
HEAR SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES
BEING BROUGHT UP IN OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AGAIN SO. IF I
HEAR IT I'M NOT IN THAT
SITUATION I CAN ONLY IMAGINE
THE- THE FAMILIES AND- AND THIS.
THIS IF WE'RE GONNA. IF WE'RE
GOING TO REMAIN TRUE TO OUR
COMMITMENT TO THOSE FAMILIES
THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS THAT THEY
AREN'T GOING TO BE ISSUES. ON
THE WHEN SOMEBODY'S WHIM. RIGHT
TO DENY THE MANTRAS ESPECIALLY
IF THEY'D- OF TRAVEL SO FAR I
MEAN THOSE THINGS JUST SEEM
PRETTY BASIC. OF AND SOMEHOW
THEY'RE NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
ANDERSON AND I ALSO WANTED TO.
DISCUSS THE ISSUE I THINK THAT
WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT HAVING TO
BRING YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATES
AND OTHER ITEMS SO THAT'S ONE OF
THE- THINGS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
LOOKING AT IS DEVELOPING AN
APPLICATION WITHIN OUR STRATEGIC
OFFENDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. TO
HAVE THESE ITEMS SCANNED FOR
REGULAR VISITORS IT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT
AGAIN THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT
CAME OUT FROM THE HEARING LAST
YEAR SO. WE ARE HEARING YOU I
DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT
WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU WE ARE
HEARING YOUR- YARD. WORKING
TIRELESSLY TO MAKE THESE
PROCESSES BETTER ACROSS THE
STATE EIGHT I THINK. WE ARE VERY
LARGE. AND NOT IT'S NOT ALWAYS
GOING TO BE PERFECT AND WE'RE
KNOWLEDGE AND THAT'S ALWAYS
GONNA BE PERFECT BUT FOR THE- TO
THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE
A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT ME
MAYBE WE SEE HAPPENING-
CONSISTENTLY. THEN THAT. IS
DEFINITELY ARTICLE. YEAH AND I
AM I'M GLAD GENERAL ALLEGING
THAT WITH THIS- THE CONSISTENCY.
THERE IS THERE'S A HIGHER BAR IN
SOME PLACES A GOOD HIGHER BAR-
THAT. FOR EXAMPLE THE DOCUMENT
SCANNING THE DOCUMENTS THAT DOES
HAPPEN IN CERTAIN. CERTAIN
INSTITUTIONS. AS I UNDERSTAND IT
. AND SO AND SO. TO HAVE IT
DONE. IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS
FAMILIES TO. OKAY IF THEY FORGET
THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEY
CONSIDER IN BUT- THAT'S
HAPPENING IN CERTAIN
INSTITUTIONS. AND WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT. MAKING IT UNIVERSAL
ACROSS ALL INSTITUTIONS. EXACTLY
AND THAT'S WHAT WERE THE THINGS
WERE LOOKING AS AN APPLICATION
THAT CAN BE. IMPLEMENTED
STATEWIDE SO THAT REGULAR
VISITORS CAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN
HAVE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE THE
MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE THE THINGS
THAT YOU NEED. A TO DO THE
VISITATION SO YOU THEY HAVE
THOSE ON FILE FOR AN APPROVED
VISITORS THAT YOU AREN'T.
HEARING THOSE IN VERY IMPORTANT
DOCUMENTS WHICH- WE- BELIEVE ARE
SOMETHING THAT. WE'RE WORKING ON
ACTIVELY RIGHT NOW. OKAY WELL I
KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE FIRST BUT
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THAT
DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THESE
ORGANIZATIONS OF FAMILY MEMBERS
SAY. THEY LIVE IT EVERY SINGLE
DAY. WE DON'T AND- I CAN ONLY
IMAGINE HOW DISHEARTENING IT IT
IS. TO HAVE YOUR CALL CUT OFF
FOR. THE NIGHT ENTRANCE AFTER
YOU'VE LOOKED FORWARD TO WITH
YOUR FAMILY SO. THANK YOU FOR
THE SAME. THANK YOU. OKAY WE'RE
NOW DONE WITH IT ISSUE THREE
WERE MOVING ON TO ISSUE. FOR
PROGRAMMING AND RE ENTRY.
OKAY FOR ISSUE FOR ALL JUST HAVE
YOU ALL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AS
AS YOU SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF
MINE WILL BE A WITH CDC ARE YOU
GOING TO DISCUSS THE SENATE WHEN
PROPOSAL AND GIVE US AN UPDATE
ON COMMUNITY REENTRY CENTERS. A
CERTAINLY MADELINE MACLEAN- C.
C. R. SO AS FAR AS THE SAN
QUENTIN PROPOSAL AND- LIKE I AM
JUST PUTTING YOU DOWN AT THE END
OF THE DAY ARE WE DON'T HAVE A
PROPOSAL AT FULL PROPOSAL BEFORE
YOU YET IS STILL SOMETHING THAT.
THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING
ACTIVELY ON WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION I WOULD JUST I
KNOW THAT THAT WHAT WE AS
HIGHLIGHTED IN THE GOVERNOR'S-
PRESS CONFERENCE- OBVIOUSLY WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BIGGER AND
BROADER THAN CDCR- AND SO IT'S
DEFINITELY A- I'M A ONE OF A
KIND TYPE FACILITY THAT WE'RE
LOOKING. LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT
HERE AND SO IT WE'RE ASKING THAT
WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME TO
WORK THROUGH THAT PROPOSAL SO I
APOLOGIZE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE
ANY ANYTHING TO DISCUSS WITH YOU
TODAY OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT
TO SAY THAT. I WILL BE RELEASING
IT. NO LATER THAN A REVISION.
OKAY WELL. ALL FOR NOT THE. THIS
IS A MALE DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT
ON THE NON- I DO HAVE SOME
COMMENTS PREPARED I'M AS WAS
NOTED THE PROPOSAL IS NOT
AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT BUT- I
DO BASED ON SOME BROAD OUTLINES
OF THE PROPOSAL THAT THE
GOVERNOR DISCUSSED AT A PRESS
CONFERENCE ON MARCH SEVENTEENTH.
I WOULD HAVE SOME OR WE HAVE
PREPARED SOME. BRIDE AND IF THAT
GOT QUESTIONS FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO START THINKING
ABOUT AS IT CONSIDERS THOSE
INITIAL COMPONENTS- THAT HAVE
BEEN THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN YOUR
AGENDA AND WERE DISCUSSED AT THE
PRESS CONFERENCE. I'M AS WELL AS
WHEN IT RECEIVES THE DETAILS OF
THE PROPOSAL. SO THE FIRST
QUESTION. IS THAT THE SECRETARY
HAS SAID THAT CDCR IS DEVELOPING
A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO
INCORPORATE LESSONS LEARNED FROM
YOUR THE NORWEGIAN. CORRECTIONAL
SYSTEM INTO CALIFORNIA PRISONS
AND HE'S TURNED THIS THE
CALIFORNIA MODEL. HE'S ALSO
REPORTED THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS
TAKEN STEPS TOWARD DEVELOPING
THE CALIFORNIA MODEL INCLUDING-
IMPLEMENTING PILOT PROGRAMS AT
THREE PRISONS. HOWEVER THE
DETAILS OF THE CALIFORNIA MODEL
HAVEN'T BEEN MADE PUBLIC
REPRESENTED TO THE LEGISLATURE
AT THIS POINT. I'M AT IS IN
ADDITION THE RESULTS OF THESE
PILOT PROGRAMS AREN'T KNOWN AT
THIS POINT. I'M IN HIS PRESS
CONFERENCE THE GOVERNOR
INDICATED THAT THE PROPOSAL FOR
SAN QUENTIN IS TIED INTO THIS
CALIFORNIA MODEL. THOUGH THE
LEGISLATURE MAY WANT TO ASK WHAT
IS THE CALIFORNIA MODEL AND HOW
DOES THE SAN QUENTIN PROPOSAL
FIT INTO IT. THE SECOND QUESTION
IS. THAT GIVEN THAT THERE'S MANY
DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE
POSSIBLE WAYS FOR IMPLEMENTING
NORWEGIAN CORRECTIONAL
PRINCIPLES AND PRESENCE. AND
THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT- YOU KNOW
TEMPS OF AT THAT BEING PILOTED
IN CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS OTHER
STATES. AND THEY ALL LOOK
DIFFERENT I'M- EASY THESE
DIFFERENT- TYPES OF APPROACHES
ARE WAYS OF ADAPTING THE
PRINCIPLES CAN BE DONE TOWARD
DIFFERENT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES-
AND THOSE DIFFERENT GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES COULD LEND THEMSELVES
TO DIFFERENT APPROACHES. FOR
EXAMPLE IN NORTH DAKOTA AND
OREGON THE CORRECTIONAL SYSTEMS
HAVE USED A NORWEGIAN APPROACHES
TO OUR PRINCIPLES. TO WITH THE
EXPLICIT GOAL OF RETRYING TO
REDUCE THE RESTRICTED HOUSING
POPULATIONS- RESTRICTED HOUSING
IS. OFTEN OTHERWISE CALLED
SOMETIMES SOLITARY CONFINEMENT-
OR SECURITY HOUSING UNITS FOR
EXAMPLE- SO THE LEGISLATURE MAY
WANT TO. ASK WHAT ARE THE GOALS
AND OBJECTIVES OF THIS PROPOSAL
AND THEN FROM THAT IT COULD HELP
THE LEGISLATURE DETERMINE
WHETHER THIS THE PARTICULAR
APPROACH THAT IS ULTIMATELY DOWN
THE PROPOSAL MAKES SENSE AND
WHETHER IT AGREES WITH THOSE
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. NEXT I'M
WE WOULDN'T SUGGEST IT THE
LEGISLATURE CONSIDER ASKING HOW
WERE STAKEHOLDERS ARE HOW ARE
STAKEHOLDER ALTERS WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE- YOU KNOW.
FRONTLINE STAFF UP INCARCERATED
POPULATION- AND THE BROADER
COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD OF
CORRECTIONS IN CALIFORNIA
CONSULTED- INSISTS IN DEVELOPING
THIS PROPOSAL IN SELECTING THE
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. I'M AS
WELL AS THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH
INCLUDING THE SELECTION OF SAN
QUENTIN IN PARTICULAR. HOW UP SO
IN ADDITION BE TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS THAT'S BEING REQUESTED
OR THE PLACEHOLDER FOR AMOUNT
THAT'S IN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET
FOR THIS I WAS ALL HAS BEEN
CHARACTERIZED AS PLANNING MONEY.
BUT THE FULL POTENTIAL FULL
COSTS HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSED AT
THIS POINT SO A KEY QUESTION IS
WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL
FOR COST OF THIS. I'M PROGRAM
AND THEN FOR THE LEGISLATURE HOW
IS IT HOW WILL THE LEGISLATURE-
WAY THESE POTENTIAL FOR COST
GIVEN OTHER. GENERAL FUND
PRIORITIES IN THE BUDGET YEAR
AND IN THE FUTURE GIVEN THE
BUDGET CONDITION AND ONGOING
COST PRESSURES. NEXT QUESTION
GOING FORWARD IS THERE A PLAN TO
KEEP THE LEGISLATURE INFORMED OF
DEVELOPMENTS. I'M IN THE
INITIATIVE AT SAN QUENTIN GIVEN
THAT. MANY OF THE DETAILS ARE
EXPECTED TO BE DETERMINED IT
SEEMS BY AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT
IS YET TO BE CONVENED. HOW WILL
THE LEGISLATURE STAND FORMED OF
DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CALIFORNIA
MODEL MORE BROADLY. AND THEN
FINALLY IS THERE A PLAN FOR HOW
THE STATE WILL. LEARN FROM
WHATEVER CHANGES ARE IMPLEMENTED
AT SAN QUENTIN IF THIS IS
APPROVED. SUCH AS AN EVALUATION
STUDY WHAT BASELINE DATA WILL BE
COLLECTED I'M XCERRA THANK YOU.
OKAY YEAH YEAH. OKAY I JUSTIFY
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE HAS
ANY COMMENTS ESPECIALLY WITH
REGARDS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT
WOULD JUST RAISE. SHERIDAN
O'NEAL DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE I'M
AT THIS TIME THE ADMINISTRATION
DOES NOT HAVE. THE ABILITY BRAG
SPECIFIC DETAILS HOWEVER
ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE
MORE DETAILS AFTER A REVISION.
DETAILS YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE.
GIVE ME ONE OF THE GENERAL.
RIGHT I MEAN THE NUMBER THAT
NONE OF THAT IS BEING PRESENTED
WITH US OR US HERE TODAY. SO WE
JUST SORT OF. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
ON THIS ISSUE I MEAN I
APPRECIATE ALL THE THOUGHT THAT
YOU'RE PUTTING INTO IT. IN TERMS
OF THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT
SHOULD BE HANDLED OR INCLUDED A
QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ANSWERED IN
THERE BUT- OKAY. CAN I REQUEST A
SUBDUED THE TWO MISSING HIS
POINT ELECT DO YOU FOLKS HAVE AN
IDEA OF WHAT. IS MEANT BY THE
CALIFORNIA MODEL IT'S FAIR TO
SAY NO I MEAN FOR INSTANCE- EVAN
THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS OUT
OF THAT THESE THAT. WE READ
ABOUT THE THINGS WHICH ABOUT
THIS IS THERE. IS THERE ANY
CANCER HAS GOT BROADLY WE'RE
GOING. TO SEE AROUND SEEMINGLY
BIG LIKE THE SEGMENT
REFURBISHMENTS. SIR SO THAT CAL
MODEL IS A IT'S- FROM THE MODEL
WHICH IT KIND OF. CHANGES THE
BEHAVIOR BETWEENS AND RATED. AND
SO THE SAN QUENTIN PROPOSAL IS A
PIECE OF I GUESS YOU COULD SAY
OF THE OF THE CALIFORNIA MODEL
AND SO IT STARTS THE CALIFORNIA
MODEL IS A SEPARATE PROJECT-
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE
DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON IN
TERMS OF GETTING A- GOVERNANCE
STRUCTURE IN PLACE AND FIGURE
OUT HOW WE ROLL THAT OUT BUT-
IT'S GENERALLY. CHANGING THE
BEHAVIOR BETWEEN HOW THE
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AND
STAFF INTERACT. AMONG OTHER
THINGS IT'S BUT IT'S JUST AT TO
BEHAVIORAL CHANGES THAT HAPPEN-
THAT WE'VE NOTICED THAT THE
NORWEGIAN MODEL HAS DONE IT'S
ALSO BEEN IMPLEMENTED AN ORGAN
AND OUR FOLKS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE
UP THERE TO SEE HOW THAT- TO SEE
HOW THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED UP
THERE IT'S BASICALLY BEHAVIORAL
CHANGES. I APPRECIATE I'M A
GUEST WITH YOU KNOW YOU REFER TO
THAT AS THE OREGON MODEL NEED
SAY THE NORWEGIAN MODEL SO
TAKING MEASUREMENTS BUT WE-
LEAVE YOUR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
BALLOT. IT LEAST IMPLIES THAT IT
IS THOSE ELEMENTS FROM THESE
OTHER SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE
ADOPTED AS OURS BUT IT'S THAT
THAT'S NOT YET. SUPER CLEAR IT'S
STILL BEING WORKED OUT SAID
STILL BEING A PLAN THAT THE
DEPARTMENT'S RICHARD AGAIN IT'S-
STARTED OUT AS A FACT FINDING
MISSION LOOK GOING TO NORWAY
GOING TO OREGON AND SEEING HOW
THEY IMPLEMENTED. AND YES I GET
CORRECTIONAL SYSTEM AS A
CORRECTIONAL SYSTEM BUT HOW WE
OPERATE IS DIFFERENT AND SO IT'S
TAKING THOSE LESSONS LEARNED AND
THOSE. BEST PRACTICES AND
FIGURING OUT THE WAY TO APPLY
THEM IN CDC ARE. TO BE
SUCCESSFUL. SO I GUESS I DO
APPRECIATE MR O'NEILL'S POINT
WHICH IS- IF WE'RE GOING TO
FRAME THINGS AROUND SOMETHING
CALLED THE CALIFORNIA. MODEL IT
SHOULD BE A FAIRLY CLEAR. THE
SAID. IN A SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND
WHAT WE'RE- TO AS OPPOSED TO.
BUILDING IT WITH YOU- BUT BUT
IT'S IT IT'S FINE I MEAN AND
CLEARLY THIS IS NOT. READY BUT
IT BUT YOU KNOW THESE THESE ARE.
I THINK REALLY INTERESTING
CONCEPTS. BUT CLEARLY VERY
COMPLEX- AND WE WILL GET TO THEM
AT SOME POINT. FOR MAY ON. AND
YOU GOT FUNDING CONSULTANT
FUNDING- THAT WAS PROVIDED LAST
YEAR WITH WHAT'S THE STATUS OF
BACKS. AND THEN WHATEVER YOU CAN
TELL US I MEAN. YOU'RE NOT READY
WHAT THE FULL PROPOSAL BUT-
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS ARE YOU IN
THAT- AND COMING UP WITH THE
PROPOSAL AND- HOW DO YOU GET
THE- LEGISLATURE. LEGISLATORS
INVOLVED. AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN.
THIS THOUGHT CAME ABOUT WE
DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY
UNNECESSARILY SO IT IS LIKELY
THAT SOME OF THAT WILL BE
REPURPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT THAT
HASN'T BEEN SPENT THE TWENTY
MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET
IS. WAS A PLACEHOLDER AMOUNT- TO
GET THE CONCEPT. THAT THE
CONCEPT OUT THERE AND THE A
PRESS CONFERENCE WAS THE NEXT
STEP IN THAT. I'M SO. THEY TRIED
IT BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THIS.
YOU KNOW THIS NEW SAN QUENTIN
REHABILITATION CENTER IS GOING
TO. BE A BIGGER EFFORT THAN JUST
CDCR AND SO IT'S TAKING AND
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS OTHER STATE
PARTNERS PLAN TO BE GROUPS ALL.
LOOKING IT AT ENCULTURATION A
DIFFERENT WAY AND SO THAT'S
WHAT. THOSE DETAILS ARE WHAT
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW
AND- WILL BE IN THE MAY REVISION
PURPLE. OKAY SO THAT'S WHEN YOU
EXPECT TO HAVE A PROPOSAL
CORRECT IN MAY CORRECT WE'RE
ONLY A FEW WEEKS AWAY. SO YOU'RE
ALMOST READY. RIGHT YOUR WILL
IT'S ALMOST READY TO GO. AND
THEN JUST ONE MORE OF IN TERMS
OF THE PARTICULARS THERE WAS A-
OF A- PART OF THE WHAT WAS I
GUESS. INCLUDED ARE ANNOUNCED AS
A BUILDING- ACTUALLY BUILD A
BUILDING. BUT SO THERE I THINK
IT TALKED ABOUT RE PURPOSING AN
OLD AT CAL PA WITH. THE I A
WAREHOUSE THAT'S NOT BEING USED
ANYMORE. I'M NOT A BRAND NEW
BUILDING AT LIKE TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS. SO IT MAY SO IT'S
THAT'S PART OF THAT EVALUATION
LOOKING. IS RE PURPOSING THAT
BUILDING OR OR BUILDING
SOMETHING NEW BUT- AGAIN. THE
IDEA WAS THAT THAT THAT UNUSED
CAL PA WAREHOUSE WHICH IS WHAT
WE HAVE. YOUR PROGRAMMING- IN
THAT RIGHT NOW- BE REPURPOSED
FOR THIS BROADER EFFORT IF
THAT'S- IN THE- THAT'S HOW IT
PLAYS OUT IN THE IN THE OVERALL
PLAN. SO THREE YEARS AGO I THINK
IT WAS MY FIRST. FIRST YEAR
SECOND YEAR I DID GO TO NORWAY.
AND SECRETARY DÍAS WAS WAS ON
THAT AND THE NUMBER OF
INDIVIDUALS THE- THE UNION
OFFICERS WERE IN THERE AS WELL
AND IT WAS QUITE A POWERFUL
EXPERIENCE. SO I'M GLAD I HAD
THAT EXPERIENCE AS YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE MODEL IS TO
CHANGE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
THE STAFF. AND INCARCERATED IT'S
A- VERY DIFFERENT MODEL FROM.
WHAT WE'VE HAD HERE FOR EVER AND
DONE IF WE COULD ADOPT ANYTHING
LIKE THAT WE MET THE- WARDEN
FROM THE OREGON. OF PRISON WHO
HAD- GAVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT
. THE CROSS TRAINING HAD LED TO
A AND IT WAS QUITE EXTRAORDINARY
FROM A- HUMAN POINT OF VIEW. SO
I AM. I AM IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE
GOING THAT'S A GOOD THING BUT IT
BE NICE TO GET SOME. SOME
DETAILS AND I THINK WHAT I CAN
PROVIDE YOU AND I WILL GO BACK
IN AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION BUT LIKE WE HAVE
IMPLEMENTED SOME PORTION OF THIS
IN MY CAR. THANK YOU ENTERED
INPATIENT PROGRAM AT SALINAS
VALLEY PRESENTS THESE THESE
THESE TECHNIQUES AND THESE BEST
PRACTICES IN THIS MODEL- TO
THAT. SMALL VERY SMALL
POPULATION TO SEE HOW IT WORKS
AND WE'VE NOTICED. THAT IT'S
DEFINITELY REDUCED ON INCIDENTS
BETWEEN STOCKS AND OF COURSE
RATED IT'S REDUCED- MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES INCIDENTS AND IT'S
REDUCED OF RULES VIOLATIONS. AND
SO I WILL TRY I WILL GO BACK AND
TRY TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION THAT. WE HAVE
IMPLEMENTED THAT IN A SMALL LIKE
IT'S A VERY SMALL SCALE. TO SEE
HOW IT WORKS AND SO THAT'S- IT'S
IT DEFINITELY DOES WORK. OKAY
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
LOOK FORWARD TO AN ACTUAL
PROPOSAL- I THINK WHAT WE'RE
MOVING ON IF YOU COULD- MISS
MACLAINE- WITH REGARD TO THE
MALE COMMUNITY REENTRY PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ACTUALLY GONNA
DEFERRED TO- THE DOCTOR. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS KEVIN
HOFFMAN ON THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR
OVER PROGRAM OPERATIONS FOR THE
DIVISION OF REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMS. A GOOD AFTERNOON TO
ALL OF YOU- WE ARE CURRENTLY
WORKING ON EXPANSION OF THE MALE
COMMUNITY REENTRY PROGRAM WE
HAVE LOCATIONS IN STOCKTON. AND
WE'RE NEGOTIATING FOR THAT
PROGRAM- WE ARE NEGOTIATING FOR
PROGRAM FRESNO. AND WE ARE ALSO
LOOKING AT REPURPOSE A AND B. F.
WFS SOLIDITY AND- FOLSOM. OF FOR
A REENTRY PROGRAM SO THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT RIGHT
NOW. OUR IN THE NEGOTIATING
PROCESS I THINK THE FIRST
FACILITY THAT WILL PROBABLY OPEN
WOULD BE STOCKTON. IT SAID THE
ONE THAT'S MOST READY. TO
IMPLEMENT ARMS SO WE'RE
CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING WITH A
VENDOR FOR THAT PROGRAM. AND WE
ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO HAVE A
VENDOR WALK THROUGH. AT FWF TO
MORROW- TO EXPLAIN OUR VISION
THERE. AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME
FEEDBACK FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS
ON IF THEY BELIEVE IT'S FEASIBLE
WE HOPE THEY DO THERE IS A- UGH
A SIMILAR PROGRAM A CALL THE VTC
VINTER TRAINING CENTER. WHICH
WAS FORMALLY A D. G. D. J. J.
INSTITUTION THAT HAS BEEN
RECREATED AND IF YOU GO THERE IT
DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE AN
INSTITUTION THEY TORE OUT ALL
THE- INDUSTRIAL TYPE- SEATING
AND THINGS LIKE THAT PUT IN
WOODEN CHAIRS AND TABLES NEW
FLOORING. NEW FURNITURE- AND- IT
DOES NOT RESEMBLE A FORMER
INSTITUTION WHATSOEVER- SO WE'RE
HOPING THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT
VISION IT'S KIND OF TOUGH TO DO
WHEN YOU WALK INTO A FORMER.
INSTITUTION BUT WE BELIEVE THAT
IT IS A GOOD LOCATION THERE ARE
PLENTY OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES IN
THE AREA OF FOLSOM. WE KNOW THAT
THERE ARE LARGE INDUSTRY
CONSTRUCTION- GROUPS THAT ARE
INTERESTED IN HAVING A- ABLE
BODIED. PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME
TO WORK FOR THEM SO WE BELIEVE
THAT IT COULD BE A GOOD LOCATION
AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH
THE DETAILS. OKAY FROM. I COULD
JUST- YOU YOU'VE NOT INTRODUCING
IN NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS RIGHT
NOW YOU'VE NOT ENTER INTERNET
WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME. OR
ENTERING INTO THOSE AND-
CONTRACTS CAN I GET. MY
TIMELINES BACK THERE CAN I GRAB
. SURE THANK YOU.
TRYING TO STAY ORGANIZED. SO
FOR- LET'S SEE HERE. WE DO HAVE
A WATER LIKE I SAID IT
SACRAMENTO TOMORROW- I THINK FOR
STOCKTON WE ARE HOPING TO- AT
THE LATEST JULY OF NEXT YEAR.
BUT WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT
QUICKER- AND FRESNO WE ARE STE
THERE WAS A SITE IDENTIFIED
HOWEVER. THE SITE GOT SOLD
BEFORE THE VENDOR COULD ENTER
INTO ARRANGEMENTS TO BUY THAT
PROPERTY SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR
PROPERTY NOW BUT GENERALLY
SPEAKING. IT'S USUALLY A YEAR TO
A YEAR AND A HALF TO IMPLEMENT
IMPLEMENT THESE PROGRAMS- WE
ENTER INTO A CONTRACT THE
VENDORS HAVE TIME TO DO ANY
REPAIRS OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE
PROGRAM BUILDINGS- WE HAVE TO
BRING UP STAFF CDCR STAFF AND
THERE IS TRAINING THAT HAS TO BE
DONE SO GENERALLY. IT'S ABOUT A
YEAR YEAR AND A HALF TO BRING
THESE PROGRAMS UP. I'M THESE
AREN'T- THESE AREN'T-
INCARCERATION THESE AREN'T
PRISONS OR JAILS NO GENERALLY
THERE. LIKE THE ONE STOCKTON WAS
A FORMER- ELDERLY HOME- IT'S AN
EIGHTY TWO BED FACILITY IT'S-
ACTUALLY KIND OF PERFECT FOR
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IT'S IN
THE COMMUNITY- THEY'LL HAVE
ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT EDUCATION.
AND RESOURCES FROM THE
COMMUNITY- FWF WAS A FORMER
FACILITY BUT LIKE I SAID WE HAVE
A SIMILAR PROGRAM DOWN AND ENTER
A- THAT- WE RE MODIFIED INTO A
PROGRAM THAT IS A VERY
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM AND LIKE I
SAID THE BUILDING DOES NOT. LOOK
LIKE IT IT USED TO BE A- AN
INSTITUTION AT ALL SO. WE THINK
THAT WE CAN DO THAT AT FWS-
THAT'S OUR VISION AND WE HOPE
OTHER SEE THE VISION TO. OKAY
AND HOW DO YOU. INTEND TO. YOU
CAN HANDLE AND WE JUST TALKED
ABOUT THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT IS
THE CULTURE CHANGED THAT'S GOING
TO MAKE THE MODEL WORK BECAUSE-
THE PHYSICAL LAYOUT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT AGAIN I MEAN BEEN TO
NORWAY IN AND SEEN THAT. IT SORT
OF STRIKES YOU KNOW IT REALLY
HITS YOU HOW DIFFERENT IT IS
JUST PHYSICALLY. BUT WHAT REALLY
HIT HARD WAS OF THIS NEW
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STAFF
AND THE INCARCERATED. COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT I THINK IN ONE IT WAS
EVEN- AT THE SUCCESS OF. OF THE
GUARDS WAS DEPENDING ON THE
SUCCESS OF THE IN ME I MEAN
THAT'S THAT'S HOW THEY WERE
JUDGED- SO. THAT'S JUST ONE
EXAMPLE I'M SURE THERE'S MANY
MANY MORE OF THEM THE KIND OF
CULTURE CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO
BE NEEDED. HOW DO YOU I KNOW YOU
MENTIONED YOU KNOW ONE EIGHT
ONE. THE MALL EXAMPLE OF WHERE
YOU IMPLEMENTING SOME CHANGES
BUT WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE
CENTERS. I WILL BE READY FOR
THAT. SO THE M. C. R. P.'S- AND
THE SEA CTRP IS THE FEMALE
VERSION THEY'RE TOTALLY
DIFFERENT BEAST- THE CULTURE IS
MUCH DIFFERENT THERE'S A YEAR IN
THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE WORKING
WITH A VENDOR THAT- BASICALLY
COURT WORKS WITH CUSTODY STAFF-
IT'S LIKE A TREATMENT TEAM-
THESE PROGRAMS ARE VERY
SUCCESSFUL- THEY THEY DON'T
RESEMBLE A PRISON THEY
RESEMBLED. A COMMUNITY PROGRAM-
AND LIKE I SAID WE WORK WITH
MANY VENDORS. IT'S VERY
THERAPEUTIC THERE'S A LOT OF
GROUPS GOING ON THERE IS- ANGER
MANAGEMENT CRIMINAL THINKING
THEIR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
TREATMENT- THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE
ALLOWED TO GO OUT INTO THE
COMMUNITY TO GO TO COLLEGE TO
GO. TO CHURCH- THE FOR INSTANCE
THERE'S PROGRAMS IN LA THEY TAKE
A LOT OF GUYS THEY GO SEE
BASEBALL GAMES AGO SEE DODGER
GAMES THEY DO THAT SAN DIEGO-
THERE WAS JUST A REAL SUIT. I'M
SORRY WHAT DID YOU SEVEN. OH
GOSH THAT HURTS. YEAH THE GIANTS
YOU KNOW DOING TOO WELL RIGHT
NOW- IF THEY WANNA YESTERDAY- SO
- THEY DON'T READ PRINT
WHATSOEVER AND THE CUSTODY STAFF
THAT END UP WORKING THERE
ASSIMILATE VERY QUICKLY TO
UNDERSTAND THAT. THIS ISN'T A
PRISON THIS IS A COMMUNITY
PROGRAM- AND THESE INDIVIDUALS-
ALTHOUGH IT'S DONE THROUGH A
PASS SYSTEM. EVERYTHING HAS TO
BE APPROVED THEY DO COME AND GO
FROM THE FACILITY OUT INTO THE
COMMUNITY- THERE ARE LOTS OF.
RESOURCES THAT COME INTO THE
FACILITY- COMMUNITY RESOURCES
SO. THESE FACILITIES ARE
BASICALLY BOMBARDED WITH-
RESOURCES FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS
AND- THEY DO NOT RESEMBLE
PRISONS WHATSOEVER SO THE
CULTURE IN THESE COMMUNITY
PROGRAMS IS PRETTY WELL TAKEN
CARE OF- SOMETIMES IT MIGHT TAKE
A MINUTE WHEN WE'RE BRINGING UP
A NEW PROGRAM- BECAUSE WE DO
HAVE A- CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS
THAT ARE. IN THE PROGRAM BUT- WE
TRY AND- I HAVE A REAL GOOD TEAM
OTHER **** PROGRAMS TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE
STRESS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
IS- YOU KNOW CULTURE CHANGE- AND
WE DO A LOT OF CROSS TRAINING
WITH YOU SEE SAN DIEGO- THAT
THEY COME OUT AND- TALK ABOUT
WHAT WE'RE DOING AND- EVERYBODY
NEEDS TO LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL
AND UNDERSTAND. THEIR
PERSPECTIVE SO WE BREAK DOWN A
LOT OF BARRIERS BUT FOR THESE
PROGRAMS THERE'S NO CHALLENGE
WITH CULTURE IT'S GOOD. OKAY
THANK YOU. THANK YOU YEAH I MISS
ROBIN THANK YOU SO IT M. THE
FACILITY DISCUSSING IT IT
HAPPENS TO BE ENFORCEABLE IT'S
NOT CO LOCATED WITH THE
PRESIDENT'S. AGENDA NO IT'S A
SEPARATE SITE- IT'S- OVER BY P.
A. R. P. I. A TO BE HONEST WITH
YOU OKAY YEAH AND SO BUT IT BUT
A PRESENT IT'S NOT SIMPLY FOR
FULL SOME. OF FORMERLY
INCARCERATED FOLSOM IN INMATES
IS FOR BROTHER NELSON IT WOULD
BE FOR- THOSE FROM SACRAMENTO
COUNTY AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES
WITHOUT SOME OUR GOAL IS TO.
BRING IT PEOPLE THAT ARE FROM
THE COMMUNITIES THE LOCAL
COMMUNITIES OR IN A WORK IN THE
LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT WAY. A
REUNIFICATION AND ALL THE ALL OF
THOSE THINGS ARE ARE- EASIER
DONE SO. THEY WOULD BE FROM THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND FOR
THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY TODAY
THINK YOU SAID WAS A FORMER
SENIOR CENTER. SO THAT WAS
STOCKTON THAT WAS STARTED TO IT
WITH THE IS THERE IT AYE A
FACILITY OUTSIDE ALREADY. IN
FOLSOM LOCATION YET YES OUR YARD
FOR THAT OF UREA JENNIFER'S- SO
. THROUGH BUDGET LANGUAGE LAST
YEAR WE WERE GIVE THE ABILITY TO
NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY. WITH WITH
VENDORS SO WE ASK FOR WHAT'S
CALLED AN RFID A REQUEST FOR
INFORMATION. AND THEY ARE- THEN
THEY SUBMIT A PROPOSAL- A TEAM
OF INDIVIDUALS WILL LOOK AT THE
PROPOSAL TO- TOWARDS
FEASIBILITY. AND GENERALLY THE
BEST PROPOSAL SUBMITTED WITH THE
CDC ARE WITH BENDIGO SHAPE WITH
THAT VENDOR TO PROVIDE THE
SERVICES AS THAT VENDOR IN THIS
CASE BUT AGAIN FOR THE RIGHT NOT
ENOUGH TO BE OFF TOMORROW WAS A
WALK THROUGH WITH THE POTENTIAL
VENDORS- AND THEN THEY WILL THEN
SUBMIT A- BECAUSE WE WANT THEM
TO UNDERSTAND THE FACILITY. WHAT
IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT THE
CHALLENGES COULD BE AND THEN AT
THAT POINT WILL TO SHOW THEM
WHAT OUR VISION IS WE HAVE A
BUNCH OF PICTURES FROM VTC AND
SHOWING THEM WHAT IT COULD LOOK
LIKE. THEN THAT WE WILL ASK THEM
TO SUBMIT A FINAL PROPOSAL AND I
BELIEVE THAT'S MAY TWENTY
SECOND. IS WHEN THE FINAL
PROPOSALS WILL COME IN. AND THEN
WE WILL- AT THAT POINT NEGOTIATE
WITH THE VENDOR THAT HAS THE
BEST PROPOSAL. JOE IS SHOW IT IF
IT'S POSSIBLE IT PROBABLY WOULD
BE HELPFUL FOR US TO. HAVE SOME
INSIGHT ON. SOME OF THE VENDORS
CARE THE WORK THEY'VE DONE THE
PROGRAMS THEY RUN SURE SO THAT
WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT AS AS
MENTALLY AS WE- BUDGET BILLS OF
BUSH VICTORY LANGUAGE THAT
MIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF
DOCUMENTS TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW
OUR PROGRAMS THAT THE- THERE'S
ALSO THE STANFORD- REPORT THAT.
I TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUALS THAT
STAY IN THESE PROGRAMS FOR A
LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. THE
RECIDIVISM RATE WHY I'VE NO
DOUBT IT SHUT DOWN JUST TO DRIVE
MY MORE INTERESTED IN THAT SORT
OF THE COMMUNITY OF. VENDORS
THAT ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDE
SERVICES READ SERIOUSNESS AS TO
WHO THEY ARE AND- HOW THEY-
PROJECTIONS. SURE I'M WHAT WOULD
YOU JUST LIKE A DOCTOR MEASURE
THAT SHOWS WHO THEY ARE WHAT
THEY DO OKAY I'M GOING TO THAT
YEAH. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- THANK YOU ALL.
VERY MUCH. OF MAYBE WILL YOU SEE
. THAN LATER- PANEL TO HAVE OF.
COMING UP HERE. OF CAN. FROM
TRAINS. IN A WORK GROUP. THE
TEAM JACKSON FROM THE GROUP
TRAINING CENTER INSTITUTE. AND
MANY THOMAS FROM SUCCESS STORIES
.
OKAY- SAID DO YOU ALL KNOW WHO'S
WHAT ORDER YOU'RE GONNA GO IN
FIRST OKAY. OKAY OKAY WELL
WELCOME THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
GO AHEAD.
YOU JUST. YOU KEEP PRESSING. IS
IT WORKING VETERAN OKAY START
OVER. I'M CAN APARTMENT ADVOCACY
DIRECTOR FOR THE TRANSFORMATIVE
IN PRISON A WORK GROUP WHICH IS
A COLLECTIVE OF MORE THAN EIGHTY
FIVE COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE
REHABILITATIVE RESTORATIVE
HEALING PROGRAMS IN ALL THE
PRISONS IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY
COLLECTIVELY SERVE LITERALLY
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FOLKS
INSIDE US SO IT'S A VERY LARGE
POOL OF PEOPLE IN PRISON SYSTEM-
I WAS ALSO SENTENCED TO LIFE
ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE
AND I SERVED THIRTY EIGHT YEARS
IN THE CDC ARE BEFORE GOVERNOR
BROWN COMMUTED MY SINCE I'VE
BEEN OUT ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW.
I'M HONORED TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU
TODAY ABOUT THE REHABILITATIVE
INVESTMENT GRANT FOR HEALING AND
TRANSFORMATION THE RIGHT GRANTS
VERSION TWO POINT OH WHICH IS
THE FRUIT OF OUR CONTINUED
PARTNERSHIP WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BONTA ALSO GREAT FOR WAS SENT TO
SENATOR BECKER FOR HIS SUPPORT
FOR THIS ASK AND WE'RE EXCITED
THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS A CHEN
DIES OUR REQUEST FOR TWENTY FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS I WHICH WOULD BE
DEDICATED TO PROGRAM PROVISION
INSIDE OF THE PRISONS. IT'S NO
EXAGGERATION TO SAY THAT THERE
ARE YEARS LONG WAITING LISTS IN
THE PRISONS. ARE PROGRAMS THAT
ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED TO
REALIZE THE GOALS OF SUCCESSFUL
REENTRY AND HEALING. THESE FUNDS
WILL CREATE ANOTHER NON
COMPETITIVE COLLECTIVE GRANT
PROGRAM THAT PRIORITIZES QUALITY
PROGRAMS IN ALL OF THE PRISONS.
AND EVEN WITH THIS OUR MEMBER
ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE RECEIVING
CLOSE TO ONE HALF OF 1% OF THE
CDC OURS BUDGET. SO IT'S
ACTUALLY A IT'S A VERY SMALL
PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE CDC
ARGUS- WHILE I HAVE THIS
OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW I'D LIKE
TO ADDRESS A FEW ISSUES THAT I
THINK OF. SOME OF THESE OF COME
UP AS WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE- I
LIKE TO START WITH THE RESEARCH
QUESTION- THE REALITY IS THERE
EXIST YEARS OF QUALITY RESEARCH
THAT DEMONSTRATES REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMMING DOES WORK TO LOWER
RECIDIVISM. CONTRARY TO WHAT IS
OFTEN ASSUMED AND WE'D BE HAPPY
TO SHARE THAT RESEARCH WITH THE
COMMITTEE AND BE HAPPY TO SENATE
YOU OFF YOU LIKE TO READ. OTHER
TVW IS EXCITED TO BE WORKING IN
COLLABORATION WITH THE LAB FOR
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME. THIS
WILL CREATE MORE HIGH QUALITY
RESEARCH THAT WE AND OUR MEMBER
ORGANIZATIONS ARE CONFIDENCE.
WILL AGAIN PROVIDE DEFINITIVE
PROOF OF THE EFFICACY OF
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS IN THE
PRISONS. THEY DO WORK AND PEOPLE
DO KNOW THAT. IN THE RESEARCH
COMMUNITY. AND THEN THIS IS COME
UP QUITE A BIT THE SPACE
PROBLEM. NOW AND I ACTUALLY HAD
THIS WRITTEN BEFORE I HEARD
ABOUT. WHAT WAS SAID TODAY. OUR
MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS LET US KNOW
OVER AND OVER AGAIN THEIR
PROBLEMS WITH SPACE TO PROVIDE
PROGRAMS INSIDE OF THE PRISONS.
I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
I JUST LIVED THERE FOR THIRTY
EIGHT YEARS. THAT THERE'S
ACTUALLY MORE THAN ENOUGH
EXISTING SPACE TO ALLOW FOR A
HUGE EXPANSION IN PROGRAM
OFFERINGS THE SPACES OFTEN BEING
USED FOR STORAGE. OR EXTRA
OFFICES OR ANY NUMBER OF LESS
IMPORTANT THINGS. THE SPACE TO
EXPAND AND PROVIDE MORE PROGRAMS
IS LESS ABOUT SPACE AND MORE
ABOUT THE WILLINGNESS TO USE THE
SPACE THAT EXISTS. I LITERALLY
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REASON TO
BUILD ANYTHING THERE'S PLENTY OF
SPACE AVAILABLE TO RUN PROGRAMS
- AND FINALLY LAST YEAR WE WERE
PROVISIONAL WORK WITH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BONTA TO CREATE THE FIRST
VERSION OF THE REHABILITATIVE.
INVESTMENT GRANTS FOR HEALING
AND TRANSFORMATION. WHICH MADE
TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE
FOR MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS FOR
CAPACITY BUILDING. OUR MEMBER
ORGANIZATIONS ARE DEEPLY
COMMITTED TO BUILDING THEIR
CAPACITY TO PROVIDE MORE
PROGRAMMING. THIS YEAR'S RIGHT
GRANT WILL FUND THOSE PROGRAMS.
AS WE RECENTLY HEARD GOVERNOR
NEWSOM SAY MORE THAN HALF OF THE
PEOPLE WHO EXIT PRISON RETURNED.
IT IS CLEAR THAT WHAT CALIFORNIA
IS DOING RIGHT NOW ISN'T
WORKING. PLEASE JOIN US IN DOING
SOMETHING DIFFERENT BY INVESTING
IN TRANSFORMATION REHABILITATION
AND HEALING. THIS BENEFITS ALL
CALIFORNIANS IN AND OUT OF
PRISON. AND THE LAST THING I'LL
SAY BEFORE I PASS ON IS. JUST
FOR THE RECORD I BEEN TO NORWAY
THREE TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN OUT
OF PRISON I'VE TOWARD THEIR
PRISONS I'VE MET FOLKS OVER
THERE. AND YOU HAPPY TO ANSWER
SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE
THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
EARLIER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
PASSAGE MY FRIEND BUT YOU. THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU FOR HAVING ME- MY NAME IS
FIFTEEN JACKSON SENIOR- AND I
CURRENTLY WORK FOR AN ORGANIZER
AND CALLED THE GROUP TRAINING
INSTITUTE. AS A SENIOR
FACILITATOR AND TRAINER. I WE
OFFER DEGREE PROGRAM AND
SEVERAL. OF PRISON INSTITUTIONS
WITHIN THE CDC OUR- SYSTEM. OF
GRANDSTANDING FOR GUIDING RATE
IN A POWER IS A YEAR LONG. A
COMPREHENSIVE OFFENDER
ACCOUNTABILITY AND HEALING
PROGRAM. ITS FOCUS IS ON HAVING
INCARCERATED STUDENTS PROCESS.
PAST TRAUMAS M. HEARD SHANE FROM
PREVIOUS BAD ACTS THAT LED THEM.
TO PRESENT. ALSO HONORS OF
VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS WHO HAVE
BEEN HARMED BY VIOLENCE. I WOULD
A DEDICATION OF MAKING A LIVING
A MAN'S TO THEM. IT IS ONE OF
THE MOST TRANSFORMATIVE. OF
VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAMS IN
CDC ARE IN MY HUMBLE OF. BEFORE
MY APPOINTMENT WITH THE GRIP
TRAINING INSTITUTE I WAS A
STUDENT OF THE PROGRAM. I AM
FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND SADLY
SERVED OVER TWENTY ONE YEARS OR
VIOLENT OFFENSE MYSELF. EARLIER
MY THIRTY SIX YEAR CENTERS I
BEGAN PURSUING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
HEALING AND TRANSFORMATION-
THERE. SCARES ME. YES EARLY IN
MY THIRTY SIX YEAR- CENTERS I
BEGAN PURSUING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
HEALING AND TRANSFORMATION THERE
WERE NOT MANY EMOTIONAL. ABOUT
LITERACY PROGRAMS AVAILABLE AT
OTHER INSTITUTIONS HAVE TO TALK
. I TOOK THE GROUP PROGRAM IN
TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHILE AT
SAN QUENTIN STATE PRISON AND
THEY COMPLETELY CHANGED MY LIFE
. I DENOUNCED ALL CRIMINAL AND
GANG ACTIVITIES TO BECOME AN
AMBASSADOR OF PEACE. I BECAME A
CERTIFIED GROUP FACILITATOR
WHILE STILL INCARCERATED AND NOW
I AM GOING BACK INSIDE. IN
VARIOUS INSTITUTIONS TO
FACILITATE DEGREE PROGRAM AS A
FREE PERSON. BECAUSE OF THE
GREAT PROGRAM AND OTHER
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS AT SAN
QUENTIN. I WAS AWARDED A
SENTENCE COMMUTATION MYSELF BY A
FORMER GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN
ANALYSIS EQUALLY RELEASED TEN
YEARS EARLIER. GRIP IS NOT ONLY
EFFECTIVE IN DERRY. IT IS ALSO
EVIDENCE BASED. WE HAVE OVER
THIRTEEN HUNDRED A GRADUATES
WITHIN HIS TEN YEARS OF
OPERATION. AND FROM THOSE
GRADUATES OVER SIX HUNDRED. I
HAS BEEN RELEASED. AND WE HAVE
LESS THAN 1% RECIDIVISM FROM THE
GRIP ALUMNI. MOST OF THE RETURN
OF CITIZENS ARE HARD WORKING AND
MAINTAINING THEIR TRANSFORMATION
ARE BY GIVING BACK TO THEIR
COMMUNITIES- A NOTE ABOUT YOU
KNOW THE DEGREE PROGRAM FROM
FORMER- SAID NGUYEN WARDEN
BRAUNFELS STATED- HE STARTED
TALKING TO THE MAN ON THE YARD.
AND COULD TELL THAT THEIR LIVES
WERE CHANGED. I ASKED WHAT WAS
THE SECRET SAUCE HERE WHAT'S THE
MOST IMPACTFUL PROGRAMS YOU'VE
BEEN PART OF AND WHAT CAME UP
OVER AND OVER. HE SAID IT WAS
GRIP GRIP GRIP. THIS PROGRAM IS
THE REAL DEAL. ALSO SEE SEE OUR
OFFICE OF RESEARCH. AUTHORIZED
AN INDEPENDENT ACADEMIC RESEARCH
REVIEW OF GRAB WHICH FOUND THAT
THE GRIP CURRICULUM. RESULTED IN
A PROFOUNDLY ALTERED SENSE OF
AGENCY AND RESPONSIBILITY. A
GROUP STUDENTS SEE THEMSELVES
AND IN MANY CASES ARE IDENTIFIED
AS WELL BY OTHER ACOSTA READY
PEOPLE ON THE YARD AS AGENTS OF
POSITIVE CHANGE. FURTHERMORE IT
COSTS MUCH LESS TO PROVIDE A
GROUP PROGRAM TO INCARCERATED
PEOPLE THAN IT IS TO HOUSE THEM.
AS YOU ALREADY KNOW THE- THE
COSTS OF ONE M. M. EIGHT PER
YEAR IS ROUGHLY AROUND A HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND WHILE IT
ONLY COSTS ABOUT THIRTY FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR FOR PER
STUDENT- GRIP OF GREAT SUCCESS
TO COST EFFICIENCY. WILL BE
TREMENDOUS SAVINGS FOR THE
STATE- WE ABSOLUTELY NEED. STATE
FUNDING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO
HELP EXPAND THE ACCESS OF GRIP
PROGRAM OF THE GRANT PROGRAM TO
ALL CONVICTED LIFERS A LONG TERM
VIOLENT OFFENDERS. I BELIEVE IF
WE HAD MORE FINANCIAL SUPPORT
STATEWIDE THEM PROGRAMS LIKE
GRIP REACH EVERY INSTITUTION IN
CALIFORNIA SO THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING AND I'M TOTALLY OPEN
F. OPEN FOR QUITE. THANK YOU.
TENDERIZER OTHER MEMBERS MEMBER
STAFF THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US
THE SPACE THE SPEAKING FROM REAL
LIVED EXPERIENCE- EXISTENCE TO
CS I THINK OFTEN SOMETIMES ARE
IN THE SHADOWS AND- ADDS BEEN.
EXITED EARLY OBSCENE QUESTIONS
BEING ASKED THE FOLKS THAT
REALLY DON'T KNOW- SO THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO REALLY
LIKE ADDRESS SOMETHING FROM THAT
EXPERIENCE I CAN'T THANK YOU
ENOUGH FOR THAT. MY NAME IS
BETTY THOMAS A THIRD I'M BECAUSE
ACTED DIRECTOR OF SUCCESS
STORIES A PROGRAM THAT HELPS
BUILD SAFER COMMUNITIES BY
DELIVERING FROM ITS PROGRAMMING
TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE CAUSED HARM.
IT'S A TWELVE WEEK PROGRAM
THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM YOU WILL
DISCOVER WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU
WHETHER OR NOT YOU BEHAVIOR HOW
YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR TIME
SUPPORTS THAT- HOW TOXIC
MASCULINITY AND PATRIARCHY HAVE
INFORMED YOUR BELIEFS. AND
CONTRIBUTED TO HARMFUL GENDER
NORMS AND THEN YOU ALSO BE
GIVING TOOLS THAT HELP YOU
OVERCOME THOSE WHILE ALSO
DEVELOPING COMPLEX LANGUAGE TO
EXPRESS COMPLEX EMOTIONS AND
DEVELOP FUTURE BASED THINKING-
TO DEAL WITH IMPULSIVITY- I WENT
TO THE PROGRAM FOR THE FIRST
TIME WHILE I WAS INCARCERATED
AT. THE CORRECTIONAL TRAINING
FACILITY IN SOLIDARITY IN TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN OF IT- BECAME
FACILITATOR- WHEN THE PROGRAM IS
DOCUMENTED AND DOCUMENTED IN THE
CNN DOCUMENTARY THE FEMINIST ON
CELLBLOCK WHY. I'M AND BEGAN
WORKING FOR THE PROGRAM
IMMEDIATELY UPON THE RELEASE OF
TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN. I ALSO
LIKE MOTHER TWO. FELLOWS HERE
WAS COMMUTED BY THE GOVERNOR
THEN GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN- I WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING A SENSE
OF THIRTY TWO YEARS OF LIFE I
DID FIFTEEN YEARS FIVE MONTHS-
BUT THANKFULLY I'M HERE BEFORE
YOU NOW. I'M AND I'M ABLE TO GET
BACK IN. TO MY COMMUNITY IN WAYS
THAT I CAN ONLY DO. BEING IN
THIS POSITION AND BEING ABLE TO
RECEIVE STATE FUNDING IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE
COMMITMENT IT'S A COMMITMENT TO
THE STATE. TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK
THE CBO'S ARE DOING AND TO ALSO
. TO KNOW THAT THIS MEANINGFUL
WORK IS EFFECTIVE AND IT'S BEING
SUPPORTED BY LEADERS. THIS WORK
IS NOT ONLY A CIS FOLKS IN
PERSONAL TRANSFORMATION TO
CONTRIBUTE TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND
IT CHANGES THE CULTURE. MANY
PHONE DEDICATED FUNDING ALLOW
CBO'S TO HIRE THE GRADUATES OF
THEIR PROGRAMS TO DO WORK NOT
ONLY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES BUT TO
BE ABLE TO REACH SOME OF THE-
MORE ISOLATED COMMUNITY PRISONS-
THAT WE HAVE A HARDER TIME-
DELIVERING PROGRAM AT- IT ALSO
ALLOWS. ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURS
TO CONTINUE PROGRAMMING WITH
ALUMNI AND TO HAVE RESOURCES TO
GIVE THEM BEYOND GRADUATION.
MOST PEOPLE ALSO END UP GIVING
SO MUCH THE COMMUNITIES THAT
THEY ONCE ARMS. I THINK THAT
THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT
SHOULD NOT BE OVERLOOKED BECAUSE
OF THE WAY THAT WE CAN CONTINUE
TO NOT ONLY DO WORK THAT'S
MEANINGFUL TO US. BUT WE'RE
ACTUALLY EXHIBITING LIVING A
MAN'S RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO DO
THE WORK OF POPULATIONS THAT WE
KNOW LEFT- WHICH LEADS ME TO MY
NEXT POINT. IT IS BEYOND CRUCIAL
THAT FORMERLY INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS ARE ALLOWED TO DO
THIS WORK- EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT
THE PRELIMINARY RESEARCH THAT
OUR ORGANIZATION HAS DONE BY THE
MARGINALLY RESEARCH- IT FOUND
THAT RELATABILITY IS KEY NOT
ONLY TO PARTICIPANTS. IN ORDER
FOR THEM TO BUY AND BUT TO
BELIEVE IN A PROGRAM'S
CURRICULUM- RELATABILITY IS
EXPRESSED IN TWO WAYS FIRST THE
PARTICIPANTS IDENTIFICATION WITH
THE FOR SO THERE'S EXPERIENCE.
AND SECOND PARTICIPATING WITH
PEERS WITH SIMILAR EXPERIENCE
ALSO ALL INTERVIEWEES MENTIONED
THAT THEY APPRECIATED THE
FACILITATOR. AND THEIR PEERS
HAVING FACED SIMILAR SITUATIONS
TO THEM LIKE INCARCERATIONS.
THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE SELF PORTRAYAL ISRAEL
AND SO IT WHEN SOMEONE CAN SAY
THAT THIS PERSON DOESN'T KNOW
WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE
INCARCERATED. BECOMES EASY WAY
OUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE HAVING A
DIFFICULT TIME EMBRACING NEW
INFORMATION IS PIVOTAL TO
CHANGE. THE SAD FACT IS YOU AND
I CAN GO INTO A ROOM OF
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AND SAY
THE EXACT SAME THING. COMING
FROM ME IT'S GOING TO MEAN MORE.
IT ALSO GIVES THEM HOPE AND
ALLOWS THEM TO SEE WHAT THE
FUTURE IS GOING TO LOOK RIGHT. I
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE
HEARD JUST RECENTLY WAS BY US
GOING IN THERE DELIVERING
PROGRAM. I INDIVIDUAL SAID HE
SEES HIS FUTURE MORE CLEARLY
THAN HERE HE HAS OVER THE PAST
TWENTY ONE YEARS- AND I DON'T
THINK THERE SHOULD BE OVERLOOKED
. IT'S THERE ARE SOME. AS WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT WHEN THERE'S BEEN
MANY OPPORTUNITIES THEY WILL USE
THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF
THE BARRIERS- ACCESS I THINK. TO
ME IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SPACE BUT- TO
BE HONEST SO THE WAY IN WHICH
SPACES USE IS NOT UTILIZED TO
THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY- WE'VE
GONE TO THE PROCESS FOR SOME OF
OUR COACHES HAVE BEEN IN
FACILITIES FOR. SIX MONTHS TO A
YEAR WHICH WHICH MEANS THEY
SHOULD BE. HAVE ACCESS TO
RECEIVING A BROWN CARD WHICH
THEN MEANS THEY DON'T NEED STAFF
TO BE THERE WITH THEM. WHICH
OPENS UP THAT STAFF TO THEN GO
TO ANOTHER PROGRAM SOMEWHERE
ELSE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. AND
THEY'LL COME UP WITH ARBITRARY
REASONS WHY THAT'S NOT
HAPPENING- ALSO. ANY TIME
THERE'S ANY TYPE OF CHANGE IN
ADMINISTRATION- I'VE BEEN
DEALING WITH. ONE FACILITY FOR
OVER TWO YEARS. EVERY TIME
SOMEONE IN THEIR MINISTRATION
TRAINS WE HAVE TO DAY AND
RESUBMIT ALL OF OUR PAPERWORK
FOR CLEARANCE. AND NOW IT'S ON
THEIR DESK FOR THE FOURTH TIME.
WE'VE BEEN CLEAR TO BE IN THERE
SAYS TWENTY TWENTY ONE WERE
STILL FILLING OUT PAPERWORK. SO
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACCESS I MEAN
THAT THAT'S UNFORGIVABLE WHY IS
IT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A TWO
YEAR DELAY IN DELIVERING
PROGRAM. ON SOME OF THAT WHERE
HE CLEARED TO BE- THE LAST THING
THAT I WOULD SAY IS. CREATING
AVENUES FOR PEOPLE LIKE US WHO
HAVE THE LIVED EXPERIENCE TO BE
ABLE TO GO IN AND SPEAK TO A
POPULATION THAT WE ARE UNIQUELY
. NOT ONLY QUALIFIED TO DO BUT
THAT WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
SEEMS TO BE THE COMMONSENSE
THING TO DO. BECAUSE NOT ONLY
ARE WE GIVING THESE FOLKS TOOLS
TO LIVE A MORE. HEALTHY WELL
ROUNDED LIFE AND BE REINTRODUCED
BACK TO COMMUNITIES THAT THEY
LOVE BUT WE'RE ALSO. WERE ALSO.
A REAL LIVE LIVING EXAMPLE OF
HOPE. AND WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR
THEM. UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU'RE
DOING TIME BEHIND CDC'S WALLS.
THE THING THAT YOU'RE CONSTANTLY
REMINDED OF IT IS THAT YOU
DON'T. ANY LONGER HAVE VALUE.
YOUR VALUE LESS REMINDED THAT
YOU'RE JUST A NUMBER NO MATTER
HOW HARD FOLKS TRY. WHEN THEY
SEE US WALK IN THOSE DOORS THAT
CHANGES IMMEDIATELY. AND NEW
THINGS BECOME POSSIBLE FOR THEIR
FUTURE SO I THINK I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT I WAS ABLE TO
NOTE THAT TODAY THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK
TODAY. THE MOBILE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. JOE
IS RIGHT I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO
CATCH A FLIGHT AND I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THE STATE THROUGH
YOUR- PRESENTATION AND I WANT TO
COMMEND. YOU THREE. BUT
EVERYBODY ELSE HERE- AND WHO
OVER. YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT THIS
PROCESS COME TO US. AND GIVE US
THE INSIGHT THAT ONLY YOU CAN
PROVIDE. IT IS A BIG SYSTEMS
THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS. YOUR LAST
POINT IS THE BEST ONE THESE ARE
REAL PEOPLE THESE REALIZE IF WE
BELIEVE. IN REHABILITATION BUT
JUST A POORLY AND REDEMPTION. WE
SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
LISTING- AND THEY WERE PROVIDING
- AN OPEN MIND AND FUNDING FOR
THE KINDS OF PROGRAMS THAT THAT
YOU ARE. INNOVATING AND
DELIVERING AND DOING SO IN WAYS
THAT NOBODY ELSE CAN- ANSWER
BRIGITTE THAT WOULD WEIGH YOU
KNOW AS FAR AS NORWAY NORWAY
NORWOOD SO I I'M GOING TO NORWAY
THIS FALL- EVERYBODY'S GONNA
NORWAY SO I AM ACTUALLY VERY.
MUCH LOOKING FOR JULY I SPENT
THE LAST. YEAR DELIBERATELY
TRYING TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME. I
OBSERVED IN AND AROUND THE
SYSTEM AS I CAN AND I CAN SAY IS
YOUR AVERAGE. A GUY. YOU CANNOT
APPRECIATE. WHAT'S WHAT IT'S
LIKE BEHIND THE WALLS. UNLESS
YOU'VE BEEN BEYOND THE WALLS AND
I AM ALSO AWARE THAT I CANNOT
FULLY APPRECIATE WHAT IT'S TRULY
LIKE TO BE THERE. BECAUSE I GET
TO GO IN AND OUT- ANSWERED THANK
YOU. I N. DOOR CONTINUES AND
VERY GRATEFUL HAVE. A CHAIR OF
THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND SENATOR- SO
IT WE COLLECTIVELY VERY
COMMITTED TO FINDING. NOT ONLY
THE IDEAS BUT THE RESOURCES A TO
MAKE THESE THINGS POSSIBLE.
THANKS RUSSIAN. THANK YOU
SENATOR NEWMAN. OF I JUST HAVE
A- ONE QUESTION THAT EACH OF YOU
COULD. ANSWER IT IN YOUR OWN
WAY- WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO GET- I
GUESS. YOU FIGURE OUT A
RELATIONSHIP WITH A CERTAIN ONE
OF THE PRISONS AND YOU. WON IN.
HOW TO THE WARDEN OR YOU. YOU
KNOW THANK A PROPOSAL NOT SURE
EXACTLY THE DETAILS OF HOW OF
HOW THAT HAPPENS- DO YOU HAVE TO
WORK WITH. DO YOU NEED TO WORK
WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL
AS YOUR OWN. MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S A SUCCESSFUL. YOU KNOW
THAT YOU SUCCESSFULLY PROVIDE
FOR EACH OF THE- MEN AND WOMEN
THAT THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.
UP IS BOTH BEING ON THE INSIDE
AND THE NEEDS WHILE THEY'RE
STILL INCARCERATED AND THEN
THERE'S NEEDS. GETTING READY TO
BE RELEASED AND THEN THERE'S
NEEDS AFTER THEY'RE RELEASED. SO
DO YOU TRY TO GO IN WITH. THE
FULL SERVICE OF. YOU KNOW OF FOR
DURING YOU KNOW AFTER I DO YOU.
PROVIDE THE MY YOURSELVES WHAT
ARE THE MODELS THAT YOU
REPRESENT BECAUSE I SUSPECT IS
NOT JUST A MATTER OF IF YOU'RE
WHILE YOU'RE INCARCERATED AND
THEN WHEN YOU'RE RELEASED THAT'S
THE END OF IT AT THE END OF IT
ALL THAT'S PROBABLY THE
BEGINNING OF A- OF ALL THE
THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
NEEDED. TO GET BACK ON TRACK
WITH YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY SO
ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. RIGHT
YEAH I THINK SO. THANK YOU
LOOKING OF WAYS- WE DO WE DO TRY
TO A SUCCESSOR AS WE TRIED TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MANY
ACCESS POINTS. BUT WE ALSO WORK
WITH OTHERS BECAUSE WE ALLOW OUR
PARTICIPANTS TO TELL US WHAT'S
NEEDED- AND IF THIRDS RESOURCES
THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WE
PROVIDE THEM WHICH IS WHY OUR
ALUMNI NETWORK ARE SO POWERFUL
RIGHT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
OKAY WHAT RESOURCES. ARE YOU NOT
GETTING FROM US AND THEN WHAT
SYSTEM ORGANIZATIONS CAN THEY WE
THEN COLLABORATE WITH TO MAKE
SURE THAT HAPPENS WHETHER THAT
BE HOUSING WHETHER THAT BE JOB
PLACEMENT WHETHER THAT BE. YOU
KNOW HOW WE SHOP IN OUR
COMMUNITY SOME OF THEM WANT TO
GO TO CERTAIN ADVOCACY GROUPS.
AND LEARN HOW TO EFFECT CHANGE
IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND WHAT IT
MEANS THE RIGHT LEGISLATION AND
ALL THAT SO WE MY PARTNER WAS
SOMEONE LIKE I DID. WITH MY
PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
THAT ARE DOING- WORK WITH
FAMILIES THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO
DEVELOP A NEW FORM OF EFFECTIVE
COMMUNICATION THAT MAYBE YOU
DIDN'T NECESSARILY DEVELOPED.
AND A TWELVE WEEK PERIOD THAT
YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WITH US BUT
IT'S CONSTANT PROGRAMMING LIKE
THAT WE HAVE LEADERSHIP
PROGRAMMING WE'VE DONE STUFF
WHERE WE- DID CREDIT. HOW TO FIX
YOUR CREDIT HOW TO BUILD CREDIT
HOW TO BUY A HOME SO IF WE CAN
PROVIDE IT YEAH BUT AT THE SAME
TIME WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
INDIVIDUAL SUCCESS. IS BASED
UPON HOW INTERACTIVE THEY ARE
WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WE MODEL
THAT BY WORKING WITH ONE ANOTHER
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY. D. D.
W. S. R. POUR BECAUSE IT'S IT
SHOWS YOU WHAT'S POSSIBLE WHEN
EIGHTY FIVE- IS EIGHTY FIVE
MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS. WHEN
EIGHTY FIVE MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS
COME TOGETHER THIS IS OKAY WE'RE
GOING TO COLLECTIVELY LOOK AT
THE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE AND THEN
FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE THEM WHAT
THEY NEED. SO THAT THEY ARE IN
THE BEST POSITION TO SUCCEED
WHEN THEY GO. INDIVIDUALLY GO TO
THE- THAT INSTITUTION. NO TO
PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT'S GOING
TO BE NEEDED EITHER INSIDE OR
OUTSIDE. YOU EACH INDIVIDUALLY
GO IN. DID TO DO THAT OR DO YOU
GO IN AS AN- AS A GROUP OR
COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS. SO I
THINK THE I THINK IT'S BOTH AND
THERE MAY BE TIMES OR INTO.
ORGANIZATIONS GO TOGETHER BUT
MORE OFTEN THAN NOT WORKING
SESSIONS ARE PROBABLY WORKING.
AT DELIVERING THEIR PARTICULAR
PROGRAM. AND THEN AS THINGS COME
UP. OR THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE
NEEDED THAT MAYBE THAT IS A
ANSWERED IN THAT DIRECT PROGRAM.
MOST PROGRAMS WILL FIND ANOTHER
PROGRAM. TO MEET WHATEVER THAT
NEED IS BUT MOST AND BUY
PRESENTS. SUCCESS STORIES AND
GRIP DON'T NECESSARILY GOING
TOGETHER. RIGHT BUT IF SOMEBODY
NEEDED FURTHER. TRAINING OR THEY
WERE OR SHOWED INTEREST OR
WHATEVER IT WAS. THIS IS LIKE
OKAY WHY NONE OF THE
ORGANIZATION THAT YOU GO TO GET
THAT SPECIFICALLY. THAT MAKES
SENSE. YEAH ABSOLUTELY I WOULD
MANDATE WAS SAND- MOST OF THE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT GO INSIDE.
THE INSTITUTIONS OPERATE FROM
THEIR- THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL
PHILOSOPHY WHATEVER THAT IS THAT
ARE GOING TO DELIVER THE
PROGRAM. ASKED TO FOCUS LIGHT OF
GRIP THAT'S OUR FOCUS WHERE
CURRENTLY ARE AND OPERATING IN.
A FIVE PRESENCE AND WE'RE
LOOKING TO EXPAND SO TWO MORE
WHICH IS- C. C. W. HELLO G.
CHURCHILL AS WELL LANCE SAID
AFRIN CORCORAN. SO THIS IS NO
ARE TO EXPAND GRIP ALONG WITH
ANOTHER. OUR PILOT PROGRAM WE
HAVE CALLED ABOUT THE FREEDOM
WHICH IS A STANDALONE PROGRAM
FOR FOLKS TO LEARN- WE DO ALL OF
THAT ON OUR OWN WE HAVE
OPERATIONS. OF FOLKS IN THE
OFFICE THAT MAKE SURE THAT. OF
FORMERLY INCARCERATED FOLKS LIKE
MYSELF OR FACILITATORS ARE ABLE
TO GET CLEARANCES ARE TO GO AND
FOR AT LEAST A YEAR TO DELIVER
THE PROGRAM- THAT'S NOT ALWAYS.
EASY DAY WITH. AGAIN OVER YOU
KNOW NOT HAVING TO LETTER FROM
OUR PAROLE OFFICER. OR NOT- THE
WARDEN JUST NOT READY FOR
FORMALLY AND BECAUSE FOLKS.
DELIVER PROGRAM- SO WE IT'S A
VERY SLIGHT A VERY SLOW AS BARRY
. FOR ACCESS- BUT WHEN IT COMES
TO. OUR ALUMNI THAT GRADUATE OUR
PROGRAM AND OUR RELEASED THEY
ARE PART OF A LARGER COMMUNITY
OF GRIP. AND I WILL HAVE ACCESS
TO A LIGHT AFTER CARE OUR
RESOURCES AND AFTER KERR
RESOURCES IS SOMEONE HELPING
THEM- WITH. IN ALL THE IMPORTANT
DOCUMENTS THEY NEED IN ORDER TO
FIND GAINFUL ID'S DEMERGED IT
THINGS LIKE THAT IT WILL BE
SOMEBODY ASIDE TO HELP THAT I
AND WE ALSO HAVE. WHAT IS CALLED
THE CIRCLE OF LOVE WHICH IS A- A
SPACE FOR FOLKS TO JAZZ- B. AND
MEDIA CENTER JUST BET IF THEY
HAVE TO SUGGEST- JUST
DEPRESSURIZED. THE WORLD IS IT
ALWAYS SHOWING UP IN OUR LIVES
IS SO- WE MAKE SURE WE TRY TO BE
PRESENT FOR THAT SOLE FOLKS-
FEEL SUPPORTED AND TO NOT FEEL
ALONE AND ISOLATED WHERE A LOT
OF THOSE FACTORS IS WHERE FOLKS
RIFF IT. IS SIMILARLY SUCCESS
STORIES HAS THE SAME THING WHERE
WE CALL THE POP MAPPY WHERE YOU
IDENTIFY FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO
BE THERE FOR YOU FOR WHATEVER
THE NEED IS RIGHT AND ALTHOUGH
ALL. EVERYONE'S DOESN'T HAVE THE
SAME GROUP RIGHT YOU MAY HAVE
THIS PERSON YOU REACH OUT TO
HEAR FROM STRESS THIS PERSON IF
YOU'RE HAVING NO AND YOU KNOW
INTO RELATIONSHIPS OR WHATEVER
SO YEAH I THINK EACH
ORGANIZATION WILL HAVE- THEIR
WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT BUT-
THERE'S ALSO. THERE'S TIMES OR
WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE
WHEEL. I KNOW GROUP IS PUT THING
CONGRESS HEY I GOT THIS ONE THAT
NEEDS THIS HOW CAN WE INTRODUCE
INTO YOUR PER. I'M SO. YEAH AND
YET I WOULD JUST ADD SO SPEAKING
FROM EVERY. OF SO WE DON'T PER
BROKE DRAW. BUT WE READ.
ORGANIZATION THAT DO PROVIDE
PROGRAMS AND- WE'VE WE'VE TRIED
TO BUILD THIS COLLECTIVE OF.
EIGHTY FIVE ORGANIZATIONS NOW IT
COULD BE CLOSER TO NINETY VERY
SOON. I THINK WE HAVE MOSTLY
EVERY. YOU BASED ORGANIZATION
NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES THESE
KIND OF PROGRAMS IN THE PRISONS
IN CALIFORNIA. PART OF THE GPW.
WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS BASICALLY
POOL ALL THESE TALENTS SO THAT
WE BECOME A RESOURCE IN A
CLEARING HOUSE. FOR WHEN RIP
REACHES OUT TO US AND SAYS HEY
WE WANT TO DO THIS WE CAN SHOW
YOU COULD TALK TO HERE HERE HERE
AND HERE. WE CAN CONNECT PEOPLE
AND PROBABLY AT THIS POINT IN
FOR MY OWN BUT I DO ACTUALLY IS
COME HERE AND REPRESENTS. ALL
THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO YOU. AND
TO THE CDC ARE TO THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE TO OTHER PLACES. AND I
THINK. THE I THINK THE MESSAGE
THAT WE FEEL IS MOST IMPORTANT
TO BE HEARD IS. IS AND IT'S NOT
IT'S NOT. A COINCIDENCE THAT
THERE ARE THREE FORMER
INCARCERATED PEOPLE SITTING IN
FRONT OF YOU. LIKE WE WE'VE YOU
KNOW THERE'S A CREDIBLE
MESSENGER ISSUE IS WHAT I THINK
WE WERE TO BE BEEN KIND OF.
GETTING AROUND RIGHT. IT WENT
WHEN WE GO IN AND TALK TO PEOPLE
THEY'RE GONNA LISTEN TO US MORE
THAN THEY'RE GONNA LISTEN TO
PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY ELSE
BECAUSE- I WAS THERE WITH YOU.
RECENTLY SET MYSELF ABOUT FIVE
YEARS AGO BUT- BUT I THINK THAT
THE I THINK THE BIGGEST MESSAGE
HERE IS THAT. PEOPLE COMING IN
FROM THE COMMUNITY. WITH LIVED
EXPERIENCE AND NOT JUST WITH
LIVED EXPERIENCE BUT PEOPLE FROM
THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MOST
IMPACTED. PEOPLE THAT LOOK AND
HAVE HAD SIMILAR LIFE'S LIKE THE
PEOPLE INSIDE. I THINK THOSE THE
PEOPLE THAT CAN HAVE THE BIGGEST
IMPACT. ON HELPING PEOPLE
RECOVER FROM THE THINGS THAT LED
THEM TO PRISON IN THE FIRST
PLACE SO THAT THEY CAN GET OUT.
AND THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL.
CITIZENS WHO ARE BEYOND PROJECT
CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY. I WOULD
NOT BE OUCH AND BE ABLE TO DO
WHAT I'M DOING IF IT WERE NOT
FOR THE PROGRAMS. THAT I
REPRESENT NOW. SO I MEAN THAT
THAT'S WHAT SAVED MY LIFE AND
THAT'S WHAT MADE ME BE ABLE TO
BECOME HERE AND DO WHAT I'M
DOING RIGHT NOW. AND I DON'T
THINK I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT
WITHOUT THOSE KIND OF PROGRAMS
FRANKLY. SO I THINK THE REASON
THESE PROGRAMS MATTER IS IF
WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY
TRANSFORM CALIFORNIA'S PRISON
SYSTEM TO THE CALIFORNIA MODEL
WHATEVER THAT. TURNS OUT TO BE.
CURIOUS MYSELF TO. I MEAN THAT
YOUR HAS TO BE A CULTURE CHANGE
INSIDE YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT
YOURSELF AND I. DO NOT AGREE
WITH YOU MORE AND IT'S A
RADICALLY DIFFERENT CULTURE
CHANGE THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT
NOW THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT
THAT. AND PART OF THAT HAS TO BE
THAT. REHABILITATION COMES FROM
THE COMMUNITY IT COMES FROM
PEOPLE WHO COME IN BECAUSE THEY
CARE. AND THAT YOU KNOW I MEAN
AND I THINK AND IF YOU GO TO
NORWAY AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE BEEN
THERE. I REMEMBER THAT ONE OF
THE PRISON OFFICIALS SAYING. WE
DON'T DO ANY REHABILITATION
PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOOD
AT IT. WE'VE THE COMMUNITY COMES
IN TO DO REHABILITATION PROGRAMS
BECAUSE THAT'S- WHERE THE BEST
PLACE TO GET UP. AND WE BELIEVE
THAT TO BE TRUE HERE BECAUSE-
NORWAY IS FULL HUMAN BEINGS AND
WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS TOO. SO YOU
KNOW IT'S- YEAH I KNOW THERE WAS
A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT- THEY'RE
HUMAN BEINGS TOO. SO THAT'S I
THINK THAT'S NOT OUR- BIGGEST
MESSAGE. WHAT I'M WELL. THANK
YOU. VERY MUCH FOR WAITING AS
MANY HOURS AS YOU HAVE TO BE
HERE WITH US. YOUR SHARING OF
YOUR STORIES. IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO US. AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP
ON DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO
PROVIDE THE RESOURCES FOR YOU TO
DO THAT WORK AND TO EXPAND TO
EVERYONE. OKAY THANK YOU THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH
APPRECIATE YOU AND THEN GO
DODGERS BY THE WAY. GO LAKERS.
I'M FROM A LOS ANGELES AREA. SIX
I WAS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. WE'RE
GONNA END TODAY WITH ISSUE FIVE.
REMOTE IN EQUITY IN THE PAROLE
HEARING PROCESS MS O'NEILL. AND
MR SHAVER. WHEN THE BOARD OF
PAROLE HEARINGS. AT THIS. ONE
THIS. ONE I KNOW NEIL AT THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE.
WHICH.
YES ALL RIGHT THANK YOU I'M I'VE
BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE AN
OVERVIEW OF OUR RECENT REPORT
CALLED PROMOTING EQUITY IN THE
PRO HEARING PROCESS. I'LL BE
SPEAKING FROM A HANDOUT OF THE
SAME NAME WHICH IS AVAILABLE
ALONG WITH COPIES OF THE REPORT.
IN HARD COPY HERE IN THAT ROOM
AS WELL AS- I LINKED ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE AND OUR
WEBSITE. MOVING TO PAGE ONE I'LL
START BY PROVIDING SOME
BACKGROUND ON THE PAROLE HEARING
PROCESS. THE BORDER PRO HEARINGS
IS WITHIN THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND
REHABILITATION AND COMPOSED OF
TWENTY ONE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE
APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR AND
CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE. I'M
HEARINGS ARE CONDUCTED BY
TYPICALLY ONE OF THESE APPOINTED
COMMISSIONERS WORKING ALONGSIDE
EIGHT WHAT'S CALLED THE DEPUTY
COMMISSIONER WHICH ISN'T NOT
APPOINTED STAFF PERSON ON THEIR
OWN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF MY COMMENTS-
I WILL BE REFERRING TO THEM BOTH
ES COMPETE COMMISSIONERS FOR
SIMPLICITY. THERE ARE A FEW
DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE IN
PRISON WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO
RECEIVE PAROLE HEARINGS THE
FIRST AND LARGEST GROUP ARE ALL
INDIVIDUALS WITH INDETERMINATE
LIFE SENTENCES SO THAT MEANS A
SPECIFIC NUMBER OF YEARS TO LIFE
LIKE TWENTY FIVE YEARS TO LIFE
THOSE ARE TYPICALLY GIVEN FOR
PARTICULARLY SEVERE CRIMES. SUCH
AS MURDER. AND THESE INDIVIDUALS
CANNOT BE RELEASED UNLESS FOUND
SUITABLE FOR PAROLE HEARING.
THEN THERE'S A SMALL GROUP OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE- ARE ALSO
ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE HEARINGS
THAT ARE WHERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
WERE CONVICTED OF LIFE WITHOUT
THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE FOR
CRIMES COMMITTED AS MINORS AND
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TWO
U. S. SUPREME COURT RULINGS
THAT. REQUIRE THESE INDIVIDUALS
TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL CHANCE AT
RELEASE AND IN CALIFORNIA THAT'S
DONE THROUGH A PAROLE HEARING
AFTER TWENTY FIVE YEARS OF
INCARCERATION. I'M IN THE FINAL
GROUP IS CERTAIN PEOPLE WITH
DETERMINATE SENTENCES THE
DETERMINATE SENTENCES ARE
SPECIFIC NUMBER A FIXED NUMBER
OF YEARS THAT- AFTER SERVING
LESS ANY CREDITS THEY EARN THEIR
RELEASED. BY OPERATION OF LAW.
HOWEVER IN CASES WHERE CERTAIN
CASES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE
PARTICULARLY LONG DETERMINATE
SENTENCES- SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE
UNDER THE AGE OF TWENTY WHO ARE
UNDER THE AGE OF TWENTY SIX WHEN
THEY COMMITTED THEIR CRIME AND
GENERALLY HAVE SERVED FIFTEEN
YEARS IN PRISON. WORK CURRENTLY
OVER THE AGE OF FIFTY AND HAVE
SERVED TWENTY YEARS CAN GET A
CHANCE TO BE RELEASED EARLIER
THAN OTHERWISE THROUGH A PAROLE
HEARING. MOVING TO PAGE TWO
THERE ARE TWO KEY DECISIONS
DECISIONS MADE AND CRAWL
HEARINGS. AND THE FIRST IS WITH
THE CANADA POST IN ON RISK OF AN
UNREASONABLE RISK OF DANGER TO
THE PUBLIC IF RELEASED. AND
THAT'S BECAUSE THE CALIFORNIA
SUPREME COURT HAS RULED THAT
THAT IS THE CENTRAL QUESTION
MATCH COMMISSIONERS ARE TASKED
WITH ANSWERING IN THE HEARING.
AND ALSO THE COURT HAS RULED
THAT IN DENYING PAROLE
COMMISSIONERS MUST BE ABLE TO
POINT TO SOME EVIDENCE THAT THE
INDIVIDUAL POSES AT RISK. IF THE
PERSON IS NOT GRANTED POLAND
HEARING THEN THE SECOND QUESTION
BECOMES HOW LONG SCHRITT HOW
MANY YEARS SHOULD. THE CANDIDATE
BE REQUIRED TO WAIT UNTIL THEY
HAVE OUR NEXT PAROLE HEARING.
AND THAT NUMBER IS NUMBER OF
YEARS IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS
THE DENIAL PERIOD. NEXT I'M
GONNA TALK ABOUT IF SOME OF THE
KEY STEPS IN THE PROCESS. THE
FIRST OCCURS FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO
A CANDIDATES- FIRST PAROLE
HEARING. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY
GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH
A COMMISSIONER WHO TALKS THROUGH
THE PROCESS. FACTORS RELEVANT TO
DAY. BOARD'S DECISION MAKING. AS
WELL AS PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS
TO THE CANDIDATE ON WAYS THEY
CAN INCREASE THEIR CHANCES OF
BEING FOUND SUITABLE. ABOUT SIX
MONTHS PRIOR TO WHEN A CANDIDATE
IS EXPECTED TO HAVE A HEARING
BPH STAFF WILL. SCHEDULE THAT
HEARING FOR PARTICULAR WEEK. AND
STATUTE GIVES CANDIDATES THE
RIGHT TO BE REPRESENTED BY AN
ATTORNEY AT PAROLE HEARINGS SO
ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS BEFORE
THEIR HEARING. E. PH WILL
APPOINT ATTORNEYS FOR PEOPLE WHO
DO NOT RETAIN A PRIVATE ATTORNEY
. M. THESE ATTORNEYS STATE
APPOINTED ATTORNEYS ARE REQUIRED
TO PROVIDE CERTAIN BASIC LEGAL
SERVICES TO CANDIDATES- BASED ON
OUR- BASED ON. ANECDOTAL
INFORMATION WHICH IS THE ONLY
INFORMATION AVAILABLE. ABOUT
THIS. IT DOES SEEM THAT PRIVATE
ATTORNEYS TEND TO SPEND. PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL SERVICES- A WIDER
RANGE OF SERVICES AND WORK WITH
THEIR CANDIDATES POTENTIALLY
OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME
RELATIVE TO THE STATE APPOINTED
ATTORNEYS. AND ABOUT FOUR MONTHS
PRIOR TO THE HEARING. AT PEOPLE
CANDIDATES ARE TYPICALLY
ASSESSED FOR THE RISK OF
VIOLENCE BY ABID PH PSYCHOLOGIST
. IN THE NO LATER THAN FORTY
FIVE DAYS. BEFORE THEIR PAROLE
HEARING CANDIDATES HAVE THE
RIGHT TO WAIVE THEIR HEARING OR
ONE TO FIVE YEARS OR TO
STIPULATE TO UNSUITABILITY.
WHICH ESSENTIALLY- SOMEONE MIGHT
TAKE ONE OF THOSE ACTIONS AS AS
STRATEGIC MEANS OF. AVOIDING
GOING TO A LONGER HE'S GOING TO
HEARING AND RECEIVING POTENTIAL
LONGER DENIAL PERIOD. THAT'S
THAT'S THE RISK THEY TAKE.
THAT'S RIGHT THEY LOSE IF THEY
IF THE IF SOMEBODY CHOOSES TO GO
TO A PAROLE HEARING AND THEY'RE
DENIED PAROLE THEY COULD
RECEIVE. UP TO A FIFTEEN YEAR
THE NILE PERIOD- AND SO SOME
PEOPLE MIGHT CHOOSE TO. EITHER
WAIVE THEIR HEARING MEANING
WE'RE JUST I'M JUST NOT GONNA.
DO IT RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA
DELAY IT ESSENTIALLY- OR I'M OR
TO STIPULATE TO UNSUITABILITY
SAYING I AM NOT SUITABLE AT THIS
TIME I'LL SEE. YOU KNOW REQUESTS
TO BE DENIED FOR FIVE YEARS AT
AND THEN THAT SORT OF A WAY TO.
ESSENTIALLY AVOID THE RISK OF A
POTENTIALLY LONGER DENIAL PERIOD
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AND IF YOU
WANT TO DECLARE. WHAT IS THE-
DOES SOMEONE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE
RIGHT TO A- TWO IN THE HEARING.
TO RECEIVE THE HEARING YES THAT
IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU CAN
PROBABLY ANSWER THAT WHEN YOU
YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL. WHENEVER
I GUESS YEAH THE WITH THE WAIVER
IS JUST BASICALLY THEIR THEIR
CHOICE TO. I'M TO DELIVER TO
DELAY THE HEARING FOR TO WAIVE
THEIR RIGHT TO A POOR PEARL
HEARING TO BASICALLY SAY. I'M
HAVE IT OCCUR ONE TO FIVE YEARS
IN THE FUTURE IS THAT RIGHT I
HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN HERE THAT'S
CORRECT- AND I THINK THERE'S A
LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT
THAT CAN BE. THE AMOUNT OF TIMES
THAT THAT CAN BE DONE THEY CAN
WAIVE THEIR HEARING THREE THREE
CONSECUTIVE TIMES AND THEN THEY
HAVE TO GO TO HEARING. IF YOU
COULD THINK OF IT MAYBE A LITTLE
BIT. ANALOGOUS IN SOME WAYS TO
PLEA BARGAINING I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT'S A REASONABLE COMPARISON
BUT NOW NOT FOR A WAIVER FOR
ISRAELI NOTED IS WHAT I MEAN YES
SORRY YEAH. BASICALLY THE PERSON
IS SAYING I AM THE WAIVER IS
SORT OF A DELAY AND THEN THE
STIPULATION AND SAYING BUT WHERE
THERE'S NO DECISION MADE ON
WHETHER THEY'RE SUITABLE AT THAT
TIME JUST DELAYING THE HEARING.
THE STIPULATION IS MORE OF AYE
THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT
SUITABLE AT THIS TIME PLEASE M.
DENY ME FOR FIVE YEARS ARE OR
WHAT HAVE YOU RATHER THAN
POTENTIALLY RISK FIFTEEN YEAR OR
AT SEVEN YEAR. DOES THAT MAKE
SENSE. OKAY THANK. AND THEN OF
COURSE THERE'S A PAROLE HEARING
ITSELF I'M WHERE COMMISSIONERS
ASK CANDIDATES QUESTIONS ABOUT
THEIR- SOCIAL HISTORY MENTAL
STATE ATTITUDE TOWARD THEIR
CRIME- AND PLANS OF RELEASED AND
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. BPH HAS
ADOPTED A STRUCTURED DECISION
MAKING FRAMEWORK WHICH-
COMMISSIONERS USE TO GUIDE THEM
THROUGH. THE THESE QUESTIONS AND
THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS
AND IT'S INTENDED TO FOCUS THEIR
TIME ON FACTORS THAT RESEARCH
HAS FOUND TO BE MOST. ASSOCIATED
WITH RISK OF VIOLENCE. AND
FINALLY- AFTER A DECISION IS
MADE. I'M IN CASES WHERE THE
PERSON GRANTED PAROLE AT THE
HEARING THE GOVERNOR DOES HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE
DECISIONS. MOVING TO PAGE FOUR.
I'LL BEGIN DISCUSSION OF OUR
FINDINGS. AND WE FOUND THAT TWO
ASPECTS OF THE PAROLE HEARING
PROCESS COULD LEAD TO AN
EQUITABLE OUTCOMES. THE FIRST IS
THAT WE FOUND THAT OVERLY BROAD
DISCRETION IS AFFORDED TO KEY
ACTORS WHICH COULD ALLOW BIAS TO
ENTER INTO DECISION MAKING. FOR
EXAMPLE AS I MENTIONED
COMMISSIONERS ARE USING A
STRUCTURED DECISION MAKING
FRAMEWORK TO GUIDE THEIR
QUESTION ASKING PROCESS AND
DECISION MAKING PROCESS IN THE
HEARING. HOWEVER THEY STILL
RETAIN FULL DISCRETION IN TERMS
OF THEIR ABILITY TO CONSIDER
FACTORS OUTSIDE OF THE FRAMEWORK
AND ULTIMATELY HOW TO WAIT THE
VARIOUS DIFFERENT FACTORS IN THE
FRAMEWORK. ULTIMATELY THEY CAN
DENY PAROLE AS LONG AS THEY CAN
POINT TO SOME EVIDENCE NAME
REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH EVIDENCE
THERE IS TO THE CONTRARY. THAT
AN INDIVIDUAL POSES A RISK OF
DANGER. AND SO WE HAD KNOWLEDGE
THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME
BENEFITS TO DISCRETION BUT ON
BALANCE WE FOUND THAT IT IS.
OVERLY BROAD AND- AB OPENS A
RISK FOR VARIOUS. AND FOR-
RESEARCH HAS FOUND THAT HUMANS
ARE. VULNERABLE TO VARIOUS TYPES
OF BIAS SEES UNCONSCIOUS BIAS IS
ONE EXAMPLE BEING IMPLICIT BIAS
WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAVE BEEN FOUND
BY RESEARCH TO ASSOCIATE CERTAIN
GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH
CERTAIN. TRAITS OFTEN BASED ON
STEREOTYPES ONE PARTICULAR
CONCERNING I'M RESEARCH FINDING
HERE IS THE ASSOCIATION BETWEEN.
BLACK AND WHITE LATINO MEN AND
DANGEROUS NIS THERE'S ALSO- SOME
MORE RECENT RESULTS LOOKING AT
FINING PEOPLE. IN TRANS GENDER
NON BINARY PEOPLE ARE FACE
NEGATIVE ASSOCIATION SO- THIS
WOULD. TO THE EXTENT CANDIDATES
ARE SUBJECT TO THESE
ASSOCIATIONS OR OTHER TYPES OF
NEGATIVE BY SEIZE THIS WOULD
DISPROPORTIONATELY DISADVANTAGED
I'M IN THE PROCESS AND VICE
VERSA FOR CANDIDATES SUBJECT TO
POSITIVE- BIASES. SO I'M- IN
ADDITION TO THIS DISCRETION WE
FOUND THE PROCESS LACKS SOME KEY
SAFEGUARDS. ON THE USE OF
DISCRETION INCLUDING I'M
PUBLISHING DATA ON THE OUTCOMES
OF HEARINGS BIAS DISAGGREGATED
BY SUBGROUPS AS WELL WELL AS
EXTERNAL MONITORING. OF THE
PROCESS. TURNING TO PAGE FIVE.
I'M THE SECOND COMPONENT OF OUR
ASSESSMENT IS THAT WE FOUND THAT
THE PROCESS POTENTIALLY AFFORDS
INEQUITABLE ACCESS TO EFFECTIVE
LEGAL AND HEARING PREPARATION
SERVICES. I'M AND REALLY QUICKLY
I'LL JUST TO FIND THOSE THAT
THOSE TERMS REALLY HEARING
PREPARATION SERVICES WHICH IS
SOMETHING THAT WE- CAME UP WITH
TWO AND- FOR EASE OF
COMMUNICATION WERE THINKING
ABOUT- THERE'S OF COURSE LEGAL
SERVICES WHICH IS WHAT YOU
PROBABLY THINK OF WHEN YOU HEARD
THAT TERM AND THEN THERE TENDS
TO BE. ON OTHER TYPES OF
SERVICES THAT ARE SOMETIMES
PROVIDED BY ATTORNEYS-
PARTICULARLY IT SEEMS MORE SO IN
THE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS THAT I'M-
WORK YOU KNOW OR SERVICES THAT
PEOPLE. PEOPLE I'M FINDING OTHER
WAYS THROUGH YOUR DIFFERENT
TYPES OF SELF HELP PROGRAMS
PERHAPS THAT HELP THEM AND DO
THE DEEPER WORK TO DEVELOP THE
EMOTIONAL VOCABULARY AS WE WERE
JUST HEARING ABOUT OR UNDERSTAND
VICTIM IMPACT PACKED. I'M KIND
OF LOOK AND LEARN HOW TO
COMMUNICATE THAT EFFECTIVELY AND
COMMUNICATE THEIR THEIR PERSONAL
CHANGE IN JOURNEY TO AFFECTIVELY
TO THE BOARD- SO. WHEN WE LOOKED
AT THE DATA WE FOUND THAT
CANDIDATES WITH I'M- CAN IS
REPRESENTED BY STATE APPOINTED
ATTORNEYS WERE GRANTED PAROLE
OUT AROUND HALF THE RATE OF
THOSE REPRESENTED BY PRIVATE
ATTORNEYS. AND SO THIS COULD BE
FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS FOR
EXAMPLE IT COULD BE THAT PEOPLE-
WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE THEY FEEL
THAT THEY HAVE REALLY HIGH
CHANCE OF BEING GRANTED PAROLE
BEFORE THEY- ACT RETAIN A
PRIVATE ATTORNEY. HOWEVER THERE
ARE SOME. OTHER INFORMATION
THAT. RAISES CONCERNS THAT THERE
COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE GOING
ON. CONTRIBUTING TO THIS
DISPARITY I'M SPECIFICALLY A
SURVEY OF PRO CANDIDATES SUGGEST
THAT STATE APPOINTED ATTORNEYS
MAY NOT BE NEEDING ALL OF BPH AS
MINIMUM EXPECTATIONS. FOR
EXAMPLE ONLY ABOUT 8% OF
RESPONDENTS CONFIRMED THAT THEIR
STATE APPOINTED ATTORNEY MATT
ALL OF THOSE MINIMUM
EXPECTATIONS NOW THIS IS VERY
LIMITED DATA- BUT IT IS THE ONLY
DATA THAT WE HAVE. ON THIS
ISSUE- AND THEN AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER IT COULD BE THAT PRIVATE
TURN ATTORNEYS ARE JUST SIMPLY
PROVIDING MORE. AND MORE
SERVICES OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF
TIME MORE MORE DIVERSE TYPES OF
SERVICES THAT MAY NOT BE THAT
THE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS ARE.
UNDERPERFORMING BELT NECESSARILY
RELATIVE TODAY EXPECTATIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN SET OUT FOR THEM AND
THEIR PAY LEVEL- BUT- THEIR
WORKLOAD IT COULD BE A AND-
CONTACT ALSO JUST STRUCTURE THAT
EXISTS. I'M SO. TO THE EXTENT
STATE APPOINTED ATTORNEYS ARE
PROVIDING A LOWER LEVEL OF
SERVICE IT RAISES AN EQUITY
CONCERN AS IT WOULD MEAN THAT.
OTHERWISE IDENTICAL CANDIDATES
MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT OUTCOMES
BASED ON THEIR ABILITY TO ACCESS
A PRIVATE ATTORNEY. AND WE ALSO
WOULD NOTE THAT TO THE EXTENT
THERE IS THIS CONCERN EXIST IT
COULD BE EXACERBATING OTHER
EQUITY CONCERNS IN THE PROCESS
THE PROCESS. FOR EXAMPLE
CANDIDATES TO FACE OTHER TYPES
THE DISADVANTAGES- MAY BE MORE
LIKELY TO NEED TO BENEFIT FROM
THE HELP OF A PRIVATE ATTORNEY
WHO HAS MORE TIME. OR ANY
JOURNEY REALLY WHO HAS MORE TIME
TO DEDICATE TO THEIR- CASE- SO
MOVING TO PAGE SIX. THE STATE
HAS TAKEN SOME STEPS TO ADDRESS
THESE CONCERNS IN RECENT YEARS-
SPECIFICALLY BPH ITSELF CAME TO
THE LEGISLATURE IN TWENTY
NINETEEN. CITING CONCERNS. ABOUT
THE DIFFICULTY IN ATTRACTING AND
RETAINING COMPETENT STATE
APPOINTED ATTORNEYS. SO THE
NINETEEN TWENTY BUDGET PROVIDED
BPH WITH ONGOING FUNDING TO
INCREASE. ATTORNEY PAY FROM FOUR
HUNDRED DOLLARS PER CASE TO
SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS PER
CASE AS WELL AS TO CONTRACT WITH
A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION TO
PROVIDE INCREASED TRAINING AND
MENTORSHIP FOR ATTORNEYS. THE
NINETEEN TWENTY BUDGET ALSO
PROVIDED FOUR MILLION ONE TIME
TO A NONPROFIT CALLED UNCOMMON
LOT TO. PILOT A PROGRAM TO
DELIVER PAROLE HEARING
PREPARATION SERVICES. OUTSIDE OF
THE TRADITIONAL ATTORNEY CLIENT
MODEL- IN OTHER WORDS THE IDEA
BEING THAT. PERHAPS THROUGH A
GROUP GROUP PAROLE HEARING
FOCUSED GROUP PROGRAM PEOPLE
MIGHT ARRIVE AT THEIR STATE
APPOINTED ATTORNEY MORE PREPARED
THAN THEY WOULD OTHERWISE. I'M
ULTIMATELY IN SHORT WE FOUND
THAT THERE JUST SIMPLY ISN'T
ENOUGH INFORMATION OUT THERE TO
KNOW WHETHER THESE PROGRAMS
WHETHER THERE HAVE BEEN WHETHER
THESE- STEPS THAT THE STATE HAS
TAKEN HAVE BEEN. EFFECTIVE I'M
AND TO KNOW WHETHER YOU KNOW TO
WHAT EXTENT THE CONCERN STILL
EXIST. I'D ALSO NOTE THAT AS YOU
HEARD ON THE PREVIOUS PANEL
THERE'S A LOT THAT THE STATE HAS
BEEN PUTTING MONEY INTO VARIOUS
TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT
NECESSARILY UNDER THE GUISE OF
PAROLE HEARING PREPARATION BUT
MORE JUST BROADLY INSTEAD.
FOCUSED ON SELF HELP INSIDE
DEVELOPMENT ETCETERA- SO IT'S
POSSIBLE THAT THOSE PROGRAMS OUT
THERE ARE ALSO HELPING PEOPLE
PER PROP FOR PROUD THAT WE JUST
DON'T REALLY HAVE A SENSE OF- OF
THAT. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
INFORMATION ABOUT AND WHO
THEY'RE SERVING YOUR
SYSTEMATICALLY FROM THE
PERSPECTIVE OF PAROLE HEARING
PREPARATION- AND THEN MOVING TO
RECOMMENDATIONS. ON THE ISSUE OF
DISCRETION WE RECOMMEND LIMITING
DEBATE THAT THE LEGISLATURE
CONSIDER LIMITING THE DISCRETION
OF PAROLE COMMISSIONERS. AS I
STATED EARLIER THIS IS- THAT THE
CURRENT STANDARD WAS ESTABLISHED
THROUGH CASE LAW SO THIS IS
SOMETHING THE LEVEL OF
DISCRETION IS SOMETHING
LEGISLATURE HASN'T WEIGHED IN ON
SO IT COULD CONSIDER DOING THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC
RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADD. SOME KEY
SAFEGUARDS ON THE USE OF
TRANSPARENT EVAN THE USE OF THE
DISCRETION SUCH AS ADDING RIGHT
AT TRANSPARENCY AN EXTERNAL.
EVALUATION I'M AND THEN TURNING
TO PAGE EIGHT. VERY BRIEFLY OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE- ISSUE OF
ACCESS EQUITABLE ACCESS TO
EFFECTIVE LEGAL IN HEARING
PREPARATION SERVICES AS I NOTED.
WITH WE FOUND THAT THERE JUST
ISN'T ENOUGH DATA AND EVALUATION
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE
TO ASSESS THE CURRENT STATE OF
THIS CONCERN. AND SO WE
RECOMMEND COLLECTING DATA AND
CONDUCTING EVALUATION ON THIS ON
THESE ISSUES IN ORDER TO
IDENTIFY ANY REMAINING CONCERNS
AND BARRIERS AND TO GUIDE FUTURE
LEGISLATIVE ACTION IN THIS AREA.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME THANK YOU.
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THAT WAS VERY VERY HELPFUL. YES
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME HERE TODAY MY NAME'S
JENNIFER SCHAEFFER EXECUTIVE
OFFICER FOR THE BOARD OF PAROLE
HEARINGS. I THINK I JUST WANT TO
START WITH THAT BE A FACT THAT
THE ISSUE OF DISCRETIONARY
PAROLE IN GENERAL ESPECIALLY FOR
PEOPLE CONVICTED OF THE MOST
SERIOUS OF CRIMES. GENERATE
SIGNIFICANT INTEREST FOR MANY
PEOPLE WHOSE VIEWS AND LIFE
EXPERIENCES VERY GREATLY. AND
WHILE THE BOARD RESPECTS THOSE
VARYING PERSPECTIVES WHEN IT
COMES TO DECISION MAKING. TO
DETERMINING WHEN PEOPLE SERVING
LENGTHY SENTENCES FOR CRIMES
SUCH AS MURDER KIDNAPPING AND
RAPE. CAN SAFELY BE RELEASED
FROM STATE PRISON THE BOARD
FOCUSES ITS DECISIONS ON THE
WALL. AND WHAT RESEARCH TELLS US
ABOUT THE SCIENCE OF RISK
ASSESSMENT. AND IT'S FROM THAT
PERSPECTIVE THAT I LIKE TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS
RAISED RAISED BY THE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE REPORT. I
BELIEVE THE L. A. O.'S REPORT
CAN BE DISTILLED THE TWO MAIN
ISSUES. ONE IS A CONCERN THAT
THE BOARD'S DECISIONS MAY BE
SUSCEPTIBLE TO IMPLICIT BIAS THE
OTHER IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE
QUALITY OF LEGAL REPRESENTATION
PROVIDED BY THE ATTORNEYS
APPOINTED BY THE BOARD. TO
REPRESENT INCARCERATED PEOPLE IN
THE PAROLE HEARING PROCESS. BOTH
OF THESE ISSUES ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD. AND I'D
LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF
THE MANY WAYS IN WHICH THE BOARD
HAS BEEN ADDRESSING THEM. THE
BOARD'S APPROACH TO THE ISSUE OF
IMPLICIT BIAS HAS THREE MAIN
COMPONENTS EXTENSIVE TRAINING
HEARING PROCEDURES AND RESEARCH
. WITH RESPECT TO TRAINING THE
ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OF THE
COURTS HAS PROVIDED THE BOARD
WITH TRAINING SIMILAR TO THE
TRAINING PROVIDED TO SUPERIOR
COURT JUDGES. I'M CONCERNING
JUDICIAL DECORUM AND BIAS WE HAD
SPEAKERS PROVIDING TRAINING ON
THE TOPIC OF IMPLICIT BIAS THAT
OUR PUBLIC BOARD MEETINGS AND
ALL BUT BOARD STAFF ARE REQUIRED
TO COMPLETE CDC OURS IMPLICIT
BIAS TRAINING. THE BOARD'S
HEARING OFFICERS HAVE ALSO
RECEIVED TRAINING ON IMPLICIT
BIAS BOTH ONLINE AND IN PERSON.
AS PART OF PROFESSIONAL TRAINING
CONFERENCES FOR PATROLLING
AUTHORITIES THAT THEY TEND
ANNUALLY. ALL NEW COMMISSIONERS
ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND AN
INTENSIVE EIGHT DAY COURSE ON
HOW TO CONDUCT FAIR HEARINGS-
PROVIDED BY THE NATIONAL
JUDICIAL COLLEGE IN NEVADA. IN
ADDITION OUR FORENSIC
PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE RECEIVED
TRAINING ON PLUS BIAS- ANNUALLY
OR AT LEAST BI ANNUALLY AND- ARE
BIANNUALLY. AND THEY'RE
SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE ROBUST
REFRESHER TRAINING SPECIFIC TO
RACE ETHNICITY AND RISK
ASSESSMENT NEXT MONTH. AS FOR
THE PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO GUARD
AGAINST BIAS IN THE BOARD'S
PAROLE HEARING PROCESS AS ADAM
LMAO AND- DISCUSSED. WE HAVE
ADOPTED A STRUCTURED DECISION
MAKING FRAMEWORK. IN TWO
THOUSAND AND NINETEEN WE
IMPLEMENTED THAT FRAMEWORK IT IS
AN EVIDENCE BASED STRUCTURED
DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK
ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BY THE
NATIONAL PRO ABORT OF CANADA. IN
CONJUNCTION WITH FORENSIC
PSYCHOLOGIST THE FRAMEWORK
FOCUSES POLLING PAROLE HEARINGS
ON SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT DECADES
OF RESEARCH ON RISK ASSESSMENT
AND CRIMES ASSISTANCE. HAVE
SHOWN TO IMPACT A PERSON'S
OVERALL RISK OF RECIDIVISM. THE
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF
CORRECTIONS AND THE ASSOCIATION
OF POLLING AUTHORITIES
INTERNATIONAL HAVE ADOPTED THE
STRUCTURE DECISION MAKING
FRAMEWORK AS AN EVIDENCE BASED.
BEST PRACTICE FOR DISCRETIONARY
PAROLE DECISIONS AND TODAY IT IS
USED AT LEAST TEN STATES IN
ADDITION TO THE NATIONAL PRO
WARD OF CANADA. PROCEDURALLY
EVERY HEARING IS CONDUCTED BY A
PANEL OF AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE ONE
COMMISSIONER AND ONE DEPUTY
COMMISSIONER WE ROTATE THE
COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD HEARING
PANELS WEEKLY SO COMMISSIONERS
WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPUTY
COMMISSIONER. EACH WEEK AND ALL
OF OUR DEPUTY COMMISSIONERS ARE
EXPERIENCED CIVIL SERVICE.
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES
THEY'RE ALL ATTORNEYS I THINK IT
IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE PAROLE
DECISIONS DO NOT BECOME FINAL
FOR UP TO FOUR MONTHS AND DURING
THAT TIME ANYONE CAN REQUEST.
THAT THE DECISION BE REVIEWED BY
THE BOARD'S CHIEF COUNSEL WHO
CAN REFER IT FOR REVIEW BY THE
FULL BOARD AT A PUBLIC BOARD
MEETING. AND ALL PAROLE
DECISIONS ARE SUBJECT TO REVIEW
BY THE GOVERNOR AND THE COURTS.
WITH RESPECT TO RESEARCH ON THIS
ISSUE. THE MOST RECENT
INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS OF THE
BOARD'S PAROLE HEARING OUTCOMES
BY RACE AND ETHNICITY WAS
CONDUCTED BY UC BERKELEY AT THE
REQUEST OF THE COMMITTEE ON
REVISION OF THE PENAL CODE. THE
STUDY LOOKED AT THE OUTCOMES OF
ALL PAROLE HEARINGS CONDUCTED IN
FISCAL YEAR END TWENTY NINETEEN
AND. TWENTY TWENTY NINETEEN
TWENTY. THE REPORT FOUND AND I
QUOTE UNLIKE THE OTHER PARTS OF
THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM IN THE
ONE YEAR SAMPLE OF PAROLE
HEARINGS REVIEWED PROGRAM AT
RATES ACROSS RACIAL GROUP SHOWED
LITTLE DISPARITIES. WHITE PEOPLE
WERE GRANTED PAROLE AT A RATE OF
36% BLACK PEOPLE AT 34% AND
LATINO X. PEOPLE AT THIRTY FOUR
PERCENT. WHEN THE RESEARCHERS
TOOK INTO ACCOUNT DISCIPLINARY
RULES VIOLATIONS THEY FOUND THE
GRANT RATES FOR BLACK AND LATINO
X. PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY HIGHER
THAN THE GRANT RATES. FOR
SIMILARLY SITUATED WHITE PEOPLE
. ARE WE JUST RECENTLY RELEASED
OUR REPORT OF SIGNIFICANT EVENTS
IT'S A STATISTICAL REPORT FOR
ALL OF OUR HEARINGS THAT WERE
SCHEDULED IN TWO THOUSAND AND
TWENTY TWO LAST YEAR. LEAVE YOUR
COPY. IN IN LOOKING AT THE DATA
BEHIND THAT REPORT. FOR ALL OF
THE HEARINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED
IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO. THE GRANT
RATES- FOR BLACK PERSONS WAS 28%
MATINA X. PERSONS 29% AND A
WHITE PERSON'S 25% I'M THERE I
SAY THIS BECAUSE- HEARING NOW
COMES ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
IS THAT WE PROVIDE MORE DATA. I
CAUTION YOU TO LOOK I CAUTION.
PEOPLE FROM JUST LOOKING AT THE
OUTCOMES OF HEARINGS BY RACE AND
ETHNICITY AND THE REASON I SAY
THAT IS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE MAKING
TRULY RISK RELATED DECISIONS.
YOU NEED TO CONTROL FOR RELEVANT
RISK FACTORS AND SO WHILE THESE
THE NUMBERS I JUST GAVE YOU ARE
ENCOURAGING- WE ACTUALLY WANTED
TO KNOW MORE. AND SO WE HAVE
REACHED OUT TO UC BERKELEY-
SPECIFICALLY DOCTORS- JENNIFER
SCHEME SHE'S A NATIONALLY
RENOWNED- EXPERT ON RISK
ASSESSMENT AND DR STEVEN STEVEN
RAPHAEL WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH
THE COMMITTEE ON REVISION OF THE
PENAL CODE I AM VERY- WELL KNOWN
NATIONAL EXPERT ON SENTENCING
AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE ISSUES. AND
WE JUST RECENTLY TURNED OVER- A
PLETHORA OF DATA CONCERNING- ALL
HEARINGS THAT WERE SCHEDULED IN
TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY ONE AND
TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY TWO.
SPECIFICALLY FOR PURPOSES OF
DETERMINING CONTROLLING FOR
THOSE RISK RELATED FACTORS AND
LETTING US KNOW IF THERE ARE
PARTS OF OUR SYSTEM THAT ARE
SUBJECT TO BIAS THAT WE CAN'T
EXPLAIN BASED ON THE DATA AND SO
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE
INFORMATION FROM THAT. REVIEWED
BY THE WAY THEY UC BERKELEY THEY
OBTAINED INDEPENDENT FUNDING FOR
THAT PROJECT AND THAT PROJECT
HAS BEEN APPROVED BY BOTH UC
BERKELEY AND CCAR'S RESEARCH
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. I'M AND WE
TURNED OVER THAT CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION LAST WEEK. THE BOARD
IS ALSO WORKING WITH CARLETON
UNIVERSITY'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE
DECISION MAKING LABORATORY ON
RESEARCH TO ENSURE WERE USING
APPROPRIATE INTERVIEW
TECHNIQUES. TO OBTAIN THE MOST
ACCURATE AND RELEVANT
INFORMATION FROM PERSONS WHO
HAVE A VARIETY OF LIFE
EXPERIENCES. AND FOR US TO
RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION IN A
MANNER THAT IS SENSITIVE TO
CULTURAL DIFFERENCES AGE GENDER
HISTORICAL TRAUMA AND OTHER
RELEVANT FACTORS. I'M SORRY YOU
MEAN QUESTIONS ASKED DURING THE
HEARING YES QUESTIONS ASKED
DURING THE HEARING. AND WE
EXPECT TO HAVE SOME RATHER
EXTENSIVE- TRAINING WE'VE HAD
LOTS OF TRAINING ON- TRAUMA. AND
HOW TO CONDUCT A HEARING IN A
TRAUMA INFORMED MANNER BUT WELL
IT LOOKS AS IF WE'RE ABOUT TO
SCHEDULE- ANOTHER COUPLE HOURS
OF THAT NEXT MONTH OR IN THE
NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE
SECOND ISSUE RAISED BY THE LA A
REPORT IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE
QUALITY OF ATTORNEY
REPRESENTATION IN PRO HEARINGS
SPECIFICALLY ATTORNEYS APPOINTED
BY THE BOARD. AND THAT WE REFER
TO THEM AS PANEL ATTORNEYS SO-
PANEL ATTORNEYS A STATE
APPOINTED COUNSEL WILL BE SORT
OF USING THOSE ENTERTAINERS
INTERCHANGEABLY. IN TWENTY
NINETEEN- THAT WAS THE SUBJECT
OF LITIGATION AND ALL OF THE
BOARD PREVAILED IN THAT CASE BY
SUCCESSFULLY PROVING THAT THE
QUALITY REPRESENTATION WAS
LEGALLY SUFFICIENT. THE BOARD
NEVER THE LESS ON ITS OWN
INITIATIVE. TOOK SIGNIFICANT
MEASURES TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL
QUALITY OF PANEL ATTORNEY
REPRESENTATION. SO THE PANEL
ATTORNEY APPLICATION PROCESS NOW
INCLUDES AN INTERVIEW BY THE
BOARD'S ATTORNEYS AND REFERENCE
TRACKS. THERE ARE MINIMUM
EXPECTATIONS FOR PANEL ATTORNEYS
THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED.
MANDATED TRAINING HAS BEEN
GREATLY EXPANDED AND IMPROVED
AND THE AMOUNT PAID TO PANEL
ATTORNEYS AS PREVIOUSLY
DISCUSSED- HAS INCREASED
SPECIFICALLY TO INCREASED FROM
FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS A CASE IN
TWENTY NINETEEN TO NINE HUNDRED
DOLLARS PER CASE. SO THEY WERE
ABLE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN A
LARGER POOL OF QUALIFIED
PERSONS. IN TWENTY TWENTY THE
BOARD CONTRACTED WITH THE
NONPROFIT ENTITY- CALLED THE
POLL JUSTICE WORKS TO OVERSEE
THE TRAINING OF PANEL ATTORNEYS
AND MONITOR THE QUALITY OF THE
REPRESENTATION THROUGH HEARING
OBSERVE OBSERVATIONS. REVIEWING
HEARING TRANSCRIPTS AND
CONDUCTING SURVEYS OF THE
INCARCERATED POPULATION AND THE
BOARD'S HEARING OFFICERS ABOUT
THEIR- THEIR REPRESENTATION. THE
BAKER IF I COULD JUST JUMP YES
PLEASE IS THERE- ANY KIND OF A
MEAN CLEARANCE I'M TRYING TO
THINK OF THE WORD. PRIEST SORT
OF INTERVIEWS WITH THESE
ATTORNEYS TO. IS THERE A IS
THERE A- A THRESHOLD OF WHAT
THEY MUST MEET IN ORDER TO
REPRESENT. OF THE APPLICANTS
FOR- I MINIMUM LIKE EXPERIENCE
AND WHATNOT. I'M WE DON'T HAVE
AN IMMENSE OF THEM GETTING IN
NOW AND HERE'S WHY WE THOUGHT
ABOUT THAT THAT YOU SHOULD BE
YOU KNOW BE A MEMBER OF THE BAR
FOR FIVE YEARS OR ENOUGH TO HAVE
SOME SORT OF LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE
BUT- I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOME OF
THE BEST PANEL ATTORNEYS WE
HAVE. OUR FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE
THROUGH- LEGAL CLINICS THEY
SERVED AS STUDENTS IN LAW
SCHOOL- REPRESENTING PEOPLE
BEFORE THE BOARD SO THEY BINGO
THOSE FOLKS REALLY WELL SO FOR
US I ACTUALLY WAS THINKING THAT
MORE THAN THE NOW I KNOW. I KNOW
WE GO THE OTHER WAY SO- PRO
JUSTICE WORKS THE REASON WHY WE
CONTRACTED WITH THEM. IS BECAUSE
THEY WERE FOUNDED ANOTHER
PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER IS HEIDI
RUMMEL. WHO IS PROBABLY THE ONE
PERSON IN THE STATE WHO HAD
DEVELOPED CURRICULUM AND WHO HAD
TWENTY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
TEACHING PEOPLE- HOW TO
REPRESENTS- PEOPLE BEFORE THE
BOARD. AND SO SHE HAD MANY MANY
YEARS- AND HAD WELL ESTABLISHED
CURRICULUM SO SHE PRO JUSTICE
WORKS IS BASICALLY IN CHARGE OF
TRAINING ALL OF THE FOLKS AND-
WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THAT ON.
I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE
RIGHT OTHERS IS KIND OF A FINE
LINE BETWEEN REALLY GOOD
ADVOCACY AND- YOU KNOW. IT'S
OKAY TO MAKE THE JUDGE FEEL
UNCOMFORTABLE. RIGHT BUT WE
DIDN'T WANT THAT TO ACTUALLY-
FACTOR INTO YOU KNOW HOW WE
WOULD TRAIN SOMEBODY. SO PRO
JUSTICE WORKS- THEY ACTUALLY- BY
THE WAY. HEIDI RUMMEL SH I
SHOULD GET THIS STRAIGHT. FOR
THE RECORD SHE'S DIRECTOR OF
USC'S GOULD SCHOOL OF LAW'S POST
CONVICTION JUSTICE PROJECT. AND
THAT'S WHERE SHE HAS TAUGHT LAW
STUDENTS ON HOW TO COMPENSATE
COMPETENTLY REPRESENT PEOPLE IT
PRO HEARINGS FOR THE LAST TWENTY
YEARS. AB HEIDI RUMMEL. R. U. M.
M. E. L. I'M- DRAWING ON HER
EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE. PETER W.
YOU KNOW WE USE ACRONYMS
PRODUCES WORKS P. J. W. I'M HAS
DEVELOPED A MANDATORY PANEL
ATTORNEY TRAINING PROGRAM.
CONSISTING OF THIRTY INTERACTIVE
EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS FOR WHICH
PARTICIPANTS RECEIVE MINIMUM
CONTINUING LEGAL EDUCATION MCLE
CREDIT FOR THE STATE BAR. IT
DEVELOPED A WEB BASED PORTAL FOR
PAMELA TOURNEY'S WHERE THEY CAN
ACCESS THE TRAINING VIDEOS ALONG
WITH AN EXTENSIVE LIBRARY OF
RESOURCES AND DOCUMENTS
INCLUDING DOCUMENTS FOR CLIENTS
WRITTEN IN BOTH ENGLISH AND
SPANISH. THEY HOST VIRTUAL PANEL
ATTORNEY ROUNDTABLE MEETINGS
EVERY THREE WEEKS THEY
COORDINATE POPULAR AND ACTIVE
MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS THAT PAIR
NEW ATTORNEYS WITH EXPERIENCED
ATTORNEYS FOR GUIDANCE ADVICE
AND FEEDBACK. THEY ALSO SEND TO
SILENCE A CLIENT SURVEY TO EVERY
INCARCERATED PERSON WHO APPEARS
AT A PAROLE HEARING. AND UNLIKE
THE DATA THAT WAS REFERENCED IN
THE ALEJO'S REPORT WHICH WAS
REALLY OVER IT ADMITTEDLY
LIMITED DATA IT WAS- SENT TO
PEOPLE OVER I BELIEVE LIKE A TWO
MONTH PERIOD OF TIME AND THERE
WERE PEOPLE WHO HAD ALL BEEN
DENIED PAROLE. AND SO I TO ME
THAT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY GOOD
OR ROBUST REFLECTION- PJ W. HAS
SENT AND RECEIVED AND PROCESSED
OVER TWO THOUSAND CLIENTS
SURVEYS. AND SO THESE ARE FOLKS
THAT HAVE BOTH BEEN GRANTED
PAROLE AND DENIED PAROLE BY THE
BOARD ACCORDING TO THEIR SURVEY
63% OF THE PEOPLE RESPONDING
REPORT THAT THEY WERE EITHER
SATISFIED OR MORE THAN SATISFIED
WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS
REPRESENTATION AT THE PAROLE
HEARING. AND 60% DESCRIBED THE
ATTORNEYS PRE HEARING
PREPARATION OF THEM IS EITHER
MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE
HEARING OR IMPORTANT OR HELPFUL
IN THE HEARING. I'M SORRY JUST A
COUPLE MORE POINTS- I ALSO WANT
TO. CAUTION PEOPLE FROM LOOKING
COMPARING PANEL ATTORNEYS TO
PRIVATE ATTORNEYS BASED ON
HEARING OUTCOMES. WE LOOKED AT
ALL OF THE HEARINGS CONDUCTED
WITHIN A YEAR. AND WHEN YOU
COMPARE PANEL ATTORNEYS VERSUS
PRIVATE COUNSEL PRIVATE COUNSEL
ONLY REPRESENT ABOUT 10% OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEARINGS. SOME
90% OF PEOPLE TO COME BEFORE THE
BOARD ARE REPRESENTED BY A PANEL
ATTORNEYS WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT
STATE APPOINTED COUNSEL ARE MUCH
MORE LIKELY TO REPRESENT
SOMEBODY WHO IS REQUIRED TO
REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.
THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO REPRESENT
PEOPLE WHO ARE DETERMINEDLY
SENTENCED WHICH WE CAN GET INTO.
WHY IT IS THE DETERMINEDLY SENDS
PEOPLE COME BEFORE THE BOARD DO
NOT GET GRANTED PAROLE AT A
NEARLY THE RATES THAT
INDETERMINATE LEESON'S PERSONS
TO THE MORE LIKELY TO REPRESENT
SOMEBODY WHO HAS A SIGNIFICANT
MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER. AND IS
ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN THE
DEPARTMENTS MENTAL HEALTH
DELIVERY SYSTEM THEY'RE MORE
LIKELY TO REPRESENT SOMEBODY WHO
HAS HAD MULTIPLE- RECENT RULES
VIOLATIONS THAT ARE DEEMED
SERIES OR ADMINISTRATIVE. AND
TO- THERE MUST BE MUCH MORE
LIKELY TO REPRESENT SOMEBODY AT
THEIR FIRST HEARING. THE REVERSE
IS TRUE FOR PRIVATE COUNSEL
THEY'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO
REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE
GENERAL POPULATION. AS OPPOSED
TO THE MENTAL HEALTH DELIVERY
SIR- SERVICES I'M- PROGRAM AND
THEY'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO
REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE EITHER
NOT HAD A RECENT RULES VIOLATION
OR IS IT OR HAVE ONLY HAD ONE
I'M IN THE- THREE YEARS
PRECEDING. SORRY I'M ALMOST DONE
I'M- IN CONCLUSION- A COUPLE OF
THINGS THE BIRDS FOCUS ON THE
LAW THE SCIENCE OF RISK
ASSESSMENT AND IMPROVED ATTORNEY
REPRESENTATION HAS ENABLE US. TO
SAFELY RELEASE MORE THAN ELEVEN
THOUSAND PEOPLE SERVING TERMS OF
LIFE WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE. AND OUR RECIDIVISM
REPORTS CONSISTENTLY SHOW. IT
BACK WITH THE ADDITION OF THE
LAST REPORTS WE HAVE SEVEN YEARS
OF RELEASES. WHERE THERE'S BEEN
A THREE YEAR FOLLOW UP PERIOD.
THAT'S FORTY TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE
FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED NINETY
SEVEN PERSONS RELEASED.
REFLECTED IN THOSE RECIDIVISM
REPORTS. ONLY TWENTY ONE. HAVE
BEEN CONVICTED OF A NEW FELONY
INVOLVING HARM AGAINST ANOTHER
PERSON. AND THERE'S A TWO POINT
SEVEN PERCENT. CONVICTION RATE
FOR ANY NEW MISDEMEANOR OR
FELONY AS A RESULT OF BEING
RELEASED FROM A GRANT FROM THE
BOARD THE TOTAL OF A HUNDRED AND
FOURTEEN PEOPLE. SO I'M. THE
LAST THING I WILL SAY IS- THESE
ARE REALLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS I
APPRECIATE PEOPLE HAVING- A LOT
OF PERSPECTIVES ABOUT HOW WE
SHOULD MAKE THESE DECISIONS WHAT
ARE LEGAL STANDARD SHOULD BE.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT
OF THE FACT THAT- THESE ARE
PEOPLE AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE
THAT COME BEFORE US BUT THE
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES THE
VICTIMS AND THE SURVIVORS THAT
COME BEFORE US. AND HOW
MEANINGFUL THESE DECISIONS ARE-
OUR HOPE IS TO CONTINUE MAKING-
A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES- BY IDENTIFYING THE
RIGHT PEOPLE- WHO HAVE TRULY FOR
TRANSFORMED AND HE COULD BE
SAFELY RELEASED. I'M TO BE
RELEASED INTO OUR COMMUNITIES
THANK YOU I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
AND I'M SORRY MY- IS A LITTLE
LONG. THANK YOU THANK YOU- THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. HERE OKAY. MACHE
FOR REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
INSIGHT- SEE HERE. WE TALKED
ABOUT THE OUTCOMES I'M JUST I'M
SORT OF A VERY BROAD I IF I NEED
A- A LONG ANSWER TO THIS BUT- IT
SEEMS TO ME A LOT OF WHAT
GUIDES. NOT ONLY THESE HEARINGS
BUT OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN
OUR IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM IS WHAT
DO YOU SEE AS YOUR MISSION. NO
WHAT WHAT DRIVES YOU AND WE
TALKED ABOUT. NORWAY A LOT THERE
WHAT DRIVES THEM. IS REALLY
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I THINK
DRIVES THE PRISON SYSTEM HERE IN
IN CALIFORNIA SO WHAT DRIVES
THEM IS. AN ABSOLUTE. IT'S NOT A
PUNISHMENT IT'S MORE OF A
REHABILITATION SIDE OF IT THAT'S
VERY VERY CLEAR SO EVERYTHING
FLOWS FROM THAT AND- YOU KNOW
HOW WOULD YOU SAY THE RIGHT
THING BUT YOU KNOW REALLY WHAT
IS THE MISSION THAT THAT DRIVES
THIS BECAUSE- IF IT'S- IF IT'S
JUST UP SO FEARFUL. THAT
SOMEBODY YOU KNOW WHO GETS
RELEASED WILL THEN TURN AROUND
AND COMMIT A CRIME THEN YOU KNOW
IT'S ALL OVER THE HEADLINES IN
THE NEWSPAPERS AND SO THAT'S
WHAT. YOU KNOW THERE THERE'S A
FEAR OF THAT SO AND- YOU GET
WHERE I'M COMING BUT I CAN
TRANSFER THAT A COUPLE DIFFERENT
WAYS AND I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF
AS POSSIBLE ONE IS WEAK. THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN LAW
RIGHT SO A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE
ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE HEARINGS
EARLIER THAN THEY ANTICIPATED
OR- YOU KNOW THEY NEVER THOUGHT
THEY'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
PAROLE. SO FOR US. IF WE SEE
OURSELVES AS MORE OF THE JUDGE
THE COURT A NEUTRAL BODY I'M WE
DON'T CARE HOW SOMEBODY GETS TO
US WE DON'T CARE HOW LONG
THEY'VE SERVED. I KNOW THAT MAY
SOUND YOU KNOW UPSETTING TO SOME
FOLKS BUT WE DON'T- ONCE THE LAW
SAYS THAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR
PAROLE WE'RE JUST LOOKING A WHO
ARE YOU WHO ARE YOU TODAY IN CAN
BE SAFELY RELEASED. THE OTHER
THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHEN
WE SAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO
PUBLIC SAFETY IT'S NOT JUST
ABOUT. A FILTERING SYSTEM ABOUT
WHO CAN WHO CAN BE RELEASED
RIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY AND
WHETHER WE'RE PUTTING THE
COMMUNITY AT RISK. WE'RE ALSO
LOOKING AT THE SAFETY OF OUR
INSTITUTIONS AND I CAN TELL YOU
I'VE BEEN TO EVERY SINGLE
INSTITUTION IN THE STATE. I'M
MULTIPLE TIMES AND WHEN I GO OUT
THERE AND I TALKED TO THE
WARDENS AND I TALKED TO THE
CUSTODY STAFF AND THE- THEM
INMATE ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBERS
. WHAT I HEAR FROM THEM IS THAT
AS WE CONTINUE EVERY TIME THAT
WE GRANT PAROLE TO SOMEONE THAT
EVERYONE THERE KNOWS. DESERVES
TO GO HOME. WE'RE CREATING HOPE
FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THAT
WORK. AND IF PEOPLE HAVE HOPE.
IT TO ME WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD AND
WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE
INSTITUTIONS IS SOMEBODY WHO
DOESN'T HAVE ANY HOPE. IS A
REALLY DANGEROUS PERSON
SOMETIMES. TO INCARCERATED. AND
THAT PUT STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS IN
OUR COMMUNITIES AT RISK AND SO
FOR US YES IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC
SAFETY BUT- WE SHOULDN'T EXCLUDE
OUR INSTITUTIONS FROM THAT.
THERE ARE COMMUNITIES TO AND I
THINK THAT THEY'RE SAFER IF
PEOPLE HAVE HOPE THAT IF THEY DO
THE WORK I'M THAT'S GOING TO BE
RECOGNIZED AND THEY'RE GOING TO
HAVE A MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY TO
BE RELEASED. OKAY BEFORE WE AND
I JUST WANNA ASK MISSILE NEIL IN
FACT YOU HAVE ANY- COMMONSENSE
IN RESPONSE. SURE ON THAT
QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED I THINK-
AND OVERALL THE OVERALL YEAH
SURE- I WOULD SAY THAT. WHAT WAS
JUST EXPRESSED IN TERMS OF THE
GOALS I THINK THAT THAT IS AN
EXAMPLE OUR CRIME ALESTRA
REVIVAL. OF WHY WE FOCUS ON THE
PROCESS ELEMENTS OF THE PROCESS
BECAUSE- THE GOALS COULD CHANGE
IF WE HAVE NEW A NEW LEADERSHIP
COMING AND NEW MEMBERSHIP- AND
IT AND WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF
THERE HAVE BEEN POSITIVE CHANGES
THERE ARE- WE YOU KNOW. MY
COMMENTS I KEPT AT A HIGH LEVEL
BUT WE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT
MORE IN THE REPORT ABOUT HOW
THERE ARE THINGS THAT B. B. B.
PH HAS BEEN DOING TO. CREATE
SOME MORE STRUCTURE THERE IS
TRAINING A LOT OF TRAINING GOING
ON IT SOUNDS LIKE BUT AT THE END
OF THE DAY ON THE FIRST. ONE
THAT COULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE-
THAT'S NOT YOUR I. SPARE FIRM
PART OF THE PROCESS ITSELF- INTO
. WE SIMPLY WE STILL DON'T KNOW
IF IT'S WORKING- AT THE- I HAVE
Y. AS PART OF MY THE RESEARCH I
DID FOR THIS REPORT I. WATCHED A
HANDFUL OF HEARINGS I ALSO KNOW
THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE I TALKED TO A LOT OF
DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING
ON THE SCHAEFER MULTIPLE TIMES
AT AND- PRO COMMISSIONERS.
PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT INTO
CANDIDATES PEOPLE HAVE GONE
THROUGH THE PROCESS- AND- AT THE
END OF THE DAY THERE'S THOUSANDS
OF THESE DIFFERENT HEARINGS
HAPPENING. I'M A ACROSS THE
STATE IN A YEAR AND EVERYONE'S
SEEN KIND OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL.
SIDE OF THEM. IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME
TO LOOK AT ALL THE AND I SAMPLE
SIZE THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH. TO BE
ABLE TO DROP REALLY A RESEARCH
BASED CONCLUSION IF YOU WELL
THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMEND. HAVING
RESEARCH SO QUALITATIVE AND
QUANTITATIVE SO WE CAN REALLY
UNDERSTAND IF- YOU KNOW. WE HAVE
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVES OUT THERE ON
WHAT'S- I'M KIND OF WHAT THE
DYNAMICS ARE IN AND HOW THE
DISCRETION IS BEING USED AND IT
COULD BE SOME CASES WHERE
THERE'S EXAMPLES WHERE IT'S
BEEN. USED BEING USED. I'M WELL
IT YOU KNOW WHICH IS. OBVIOUSLY
S. SUBJECTIVE CONCEPT BUT- YOU
KNOW WHEN OR WHERE THERE ARE
CASES WHERE MAYBE BIASES
OCCURRING- SO AT THE END OF THE
DAY LIKE I SAID WE JUST DON'T
HAVE INFORMATION IT'S NOT. THE
PROCESS DOESN'T HAVE. REALLY A
CLEAR MECHANISM. OF FOR WHICH-
THERE IS EXTERNAL MONITORING AND
RELEASE OF DATA IN A WAY THAT.
ALLOWS FOR US AT LEAST UP TO NOW
I'M TED. YOU HAVE A SENSE OF
REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON.
SYSTEMATICALLY I'M AND THEN. I
WOULD NOTE IT IS PROMISING TO
HEAR THAT BPH IS PARTNERING
WITH- BURKE AT UC BERKELEY
RESEARCHERS TO CONDUCT A
RIGOROUS ANALYSIS THAT'S A
SOMETHING THAT IS A RECENT
DEVELOPMENT- I DAY DATA THAT.
WAS SUBMISSION FOR CITED THAT
SHOWS THAT RELEASE RATES BY
CERTAIN RACIAL GROUPS AREN'T ARE
RELATIVELY SIMILAR- ISN'T REALLY
WE JUST DON'T REGARD. THAT
REALLY DOESN'T TELL US MUCH- AND
THERE'S A WHOLE NUMBER OF
REASONS I COULD TALK ABOUT AS TO
WHY. THAT DOES REALLY JUST SOME
STATISTICS THAT'S NOT RESEARCH-
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE. YOU KNOW
START TO SEE MORE AND MORE DATA
COMING OUT BUT- AGAIN WE REALLY
WOULD WANT TO SEE. AS MISS
SCHAEFER SAID A RIGOROUS
RESEARCH STUDY- AND THEN ALSO IT
WAS NOTED THAT THAT PRO JUSTICE
WORKS DOES HAVE COLLECT
INFORMATION THROUGH CLIENT
SURVEYS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT WE OR THE LEGISLATURE HAVE
HAD ACCESS TO SO. WHERE RELYING
LIKE I SAID ON VERY LIMITED DATA
AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF THE
ATTORNEY QUALITY ISSUE- AND SO
MAYBE THERE'S A WAY FOR. SOME OF
THE INFORMATION TO BE SHARED OR-
KIND OF COOK COLLECTED- BUT AT
THIS POINT AGAIN WE STILL
HAVEN'T AND- DON'T HAVE A GOOD
WINDOW ON WHAT'S GOING ON- AND
THEN I. FINALLY JUST KIND OF ON
THE TURN ATTORNEY TOPIC. AS WAS
NOTED THE STATE IS IN LITIGATION
AROUND THE- ATTORNEY. QUALITY AT
OUR LEVEL OF SERVICES
ESSENTIALLY AND I WANT TO BE
CLEAR THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION
WE'RE NOT WEIGHING IN ON THAT ON
LIKE WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE
WHAT IS THE LEGAL AMOUNT OF
SERVICES THAT ARE REQUIRED HERE-
WE'RE JUST POINTING OUT THAT
THERE IS A POTENTIAL EQUITY.
CONCERN IF YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE
WHO. ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS I'M-
ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT OTHER
PEOPLE MAY BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND
NOT SOMETHING THAT. YOU KNOW
THERE'S AN UNMARRIED OF
DIFFERENT POTENTIAL EQUITY
CONCERNS OUT THERE IN THE WORLD
THAT THE LEGISLATURE MAY CHOOSE
TO. TACKLE AND SO THIS IS ONE
THAT YOU WE PRESENT AS AN OPTION
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALL
RIGHT ANY FINAL WORDS WERE WITH.
I THINK JUST THE ONE THING I'D
LIKE THERE ARE A LOT THERE WAS A
LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT LENGTHY
DENIAL LINKS RIGHT FIVE. THREE
FOUR THREE TO FIFTEEN YEARS IS
WHAT THE LAW SAYS. I'M THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OUR
DENIALS ARE FOR THE MINIMUM TERM
OF THREE YEARS AND WE ARE
PROCESSES IN PLACE FOR ADVANCING
THAT NEXT HEARING DATE SO I
DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE
THINKING THAT. I'M ANYBODY WHO'S
DENIED IS GOING TO SPEND ANOTHER
THREE YEARS IN STATE PRISON WE
ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY HIGH. GRANT
RATE FOR PEOPLE WHO THE BOARD ON
ITS OWN MOTION. ADVANCES THEIR
NEXT HEARING DATE RIGHT NOW WHEN
THEY GO TO HEARING- THEY'RE
BEING GRANTED PAROLE AT A RATE
OF SIXTY PERCENT. OUR OVERALL
GRANT RATE IS AROUND 30% IT WAS
34% FOR TWO YEARS IT JUST WENT
DOWN LAST YEAR TO TWENTY EIGHT
PERCENT. AND SINCE THERE'S A
WHOLE HOST OF REASONS FOR THAT
I'M NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS
THE LEGISLATURE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. FOR PASSING SOME
LEGISLATION THAT TO GIVE US A
DEADLINE AT THE END OF DECEMBER
TWENTY TWENTY TWO TO GET A LOT
OF PEOPLE ON CALENDAR AND THERE
WAS A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF
THEM THAT OR SEX OFFENDERS. AND
SO WE SAW A DECREASE IN OUR
GRANT RATES BUT SINCE JANUARY OF
THIS YEAR IT'S BACK UP TO THIRTY
FOUR PERCENT. SO 34% OF THE
PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE US- GET
A GRANT AND THAT'S THE HIGHEST
IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY. I AM I
DO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS FOR YOU
PRO JUSTICE WORKS JUST PUT OUT A
REPORT OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE
DONE. AND I HAVE OUR STUDENTS
CAREER REPORT FROM TWENTY TWENTY
TWO AND WITH THAT IF I HAD A
VERY LONG BALLOT YOU. THANK YOU
LET'S SEE IF MORE QUESTIONS.
OKAY NO- WE COULD SPEND A WHOLE
DAY YES JUST ON ON THE SUBJECT
SO. I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU- SO
NAIL ALL THE- PASSION THAT YOU
PUT INTO IT AND THE TIME AND
SHAVER AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK AND- WE WANT TO SEE GOING
ON. IN THE GOOD DIRECTION I
MEAN. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE
YOU'RE RIGHT HOPE. IS REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR THEM AND ALSO FOR
THEIR FAMILIES. SO WITH. THANK
YOU. GOING TO. I'LL MOVE ON TO
ANYONE WANTING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT AS A REMINDER TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS EIGHT
SEVEN SEVEN THREE THREE SIX FOUR
FOUR THREE SIX. THE ACCESS CODE
IS SEVEN TWO FIVE TWO. THREE ONE
FIVE WILL BEGIN WITH ANY
WITNESSES HERE IN ROME AND
ELEVEN HUNDRED. YES COME ON UP
AND- YES GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS MERRY SORRY IF YOU WOULD.
KEEP YOUR COMMENTS SHORT WE
WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT THANK
YOU MY NAME IS MERION KNOWING I
AM VICE PRESIDENT FOR WEST KERR
CALIFORNIA AND I'M HERE TO
TESTIFY ON ISSUE NUMBER FOUR
PROGRAM AND RE ENTRY. WESKER
CALIFORNIA HAS IS A SOCIAL
SERVICE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS
BEEN PROVIDING SERVICES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE SINCE
NINETEEN SEVENTY FOUR INCLUDING
TREATMENT IN HER REHABILITATION
REENTRY THROUGH CRIMINAL JUSTICE
PROGRAMS. MENTAL HEALTH VETERANS
EDUCATION AND PREVENTION AND
HOMELESSNESS. IN TWENTY FOURTEEN
WE OPENED ONE OF THE FIRST
REENTRY FACILITIES FOR FEMALES
IN SAN DIEGO THE CTRP SAN DIEGO.
FACILITY THROUGH COOPERATION
WITH CDC ARE AND COMMUNITY
PROVIDERS HAS IMPACTED THE LIVES
OF THOUSANDS OF WOMEN. THE
STANFORD PUBLIC POLICY TEAM
COMPLETED A RESEARCH EVALUATION
TWENTY TWENTY OF THESE REENTRY
PROGRAMS AND FOUND THAT. 92%
RECIDIVISM REDUCTION FROM
COMPARISON GROUP I'M IN THEIR
FIRST YEAR POST RELEASE. WESKER
ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT
BECAUSE IT BELIEVES IN THE
PROGRAM AND THE POSSIBILITIES
THAT COULD PROVIDE TO
INDIVIDUALS. WHILE WE CONTINUE
TO TRY AND DO AMAZING WORK WE
HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN INCREASE IN
NINE YEARS. WE HAVE STRUGGLED WE
HAVE HAD TO FUNDRAISE WE HAVE
HAD TO FORGO SALARY AND BENEFIT
INCREASES AND ULTIMATELY HAVE
SUFFERED AS AN ORGANIZATION TO
CONTINUE MANAGING THE PROGRAM.
THIS YEAR WE DECIDED WE COULD
NOT REPAIR IT ON THE PROGRAM
BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN THE RATES.
ARE THE SAME AS NINE YEARS AGO
WHAT WE NOW HAVE IN CALIFORNIA
IS A PROGRAM THAT CLEARLY WORKS
BUT IT'S SO SIGNIFICANTLY
UNDERFUNDED. THAT NO REASONABLE
OR QUALITY PROVIDER CAN BE
INVOLVED. JUST A QUICK SUCCESS A
SUCCESS STORY YOU KNOW IN TWENTY
NINETEEN WE DID HAVE A YOUNG
LADY COME THROUGH OUR PROGRAM
SHE HAD BEEN INCARCERATED AS A
YOUNG AGE. I'M WAS BORN INTO A
LIFE OF ADDICTION AND ABUSE.
WHILE SHE WAS IN THE PROGRAM YOU
DIDN'T ROLL INTO SAN DIEGO STATE
UNIVERSITY COMPLETED AFTER SHE
LEFT THE PROGRAM. YOU KNOW
OBTAINED A JOB SHE CAN SHE
CONTINUES IN COMMUNICATION WITH
US JUST TO LET US KNOW AND SHARE
ABOUT HER STORY OF HOPE. HOPE
HOPE HOPING THAT IT'LL INSPIRE
OTHERS SO WE JUST WANT TO ASK
AGAIN A REGULAR RATE YOU KNOW
THAT WE KNOW THAT THE PROGRAM
WORKS AND WE- HOPE TO SEE SOME
INCREASE IN RATES. THANK YOU
THANK YOU. FOR BEING HERE. NEXT
PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON SENATOR
I'M DARBY KERN AND REPRESENTING
HEALTH RIGHT THREE SIXTY IN
AMITY FOUNDATION. ON ITEM NUMBER
FOUR WHICH ARE BOTH REENTRY
PROVIDERS. I'M JUST QUICKLY LAST
YEAR WE WORKED WITH THE
LEGISLATURE TO GET THIS FUNDING
TO EXPAND THIS IMPORTANT PROGRAM
THAT'S REALLY SUCCESSFUL. BUT AT
THE SAME TIME. THE INDIVIDUAL
THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE EXISTING
ARE PAID 60% LESS THAN THE
CONTRACTS THAT ARE COMING OUT.
AND WE'RE SEEING CONTRACTORS
SAYING I CANNOT DO THIS ANYMORE.
THAT'S RIGHT THREE SIXTY HAS
WRITTEN A LETTER HAS SAID THAT
THEY CANNOT CONTINUE A PROGRAM.
BECAUSE THE RATES ARE SO LOW.
AND PEOPLE ARE THINKING AND-
PEOPLE ARE NOT THINKING
HOLISTICALLY ABOUT THE SYSTEM WE
HAVE TO LOOK AT IT WE HAVE
CALTRAIN HAPPENING WITH THE
JUSTICE INVOLVED. POPULATION
STARTING IN APRIL TWENTY TWENTY
FOUR. IF WE DO NOT MAINTAIN OUR
PROVIDERS WE WILL NOT HAVE THE
ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL WHEN
THE NEW PROGRAMS ARE STARTING- I
JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE
LOOK AT THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE
EXISTING FUNDING FOR THE
EXPANSION. AND INCLUDE THE
CURRENT CONTRACTS SO THAT WE ARE
NOT LOSING THE EXISTING CAPACITY
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MY NAME IS DENISE NELSON SOLOMON
THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF LIFE
SUPPORT ALLIANCE. WE ARE
PRISONER ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION
OF THAT SPEAK ON EQUITY AND
PAROLE I DID SUBMIT A WRITTEN
REPORTER WRITTEN COMMENT TO. THE
COMMITTEE I HOPE THAT YOU WILL
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT I WILL TRY
TO BE BRIEF HERE. LET ME SAY
THAT THE L. A- REPORT AND I'VE
BEEN DOING THIS FOR THIRTY
YEARS. ALMOST THIRTY YEARS AND I
HAVE GONE TO PROBABLY TWO
HUNDRED PRO HEARINGS I READ MORE
TRANSCRIPTS THAT I CAN CARE TO
COUNT IN THE LIFETIME. I KNOW
THIS PROCESS PRETTY DARN WELL
I'M MARRIED TO A PRO LIFER I GO
INTO THE PRISONS EVERY WE CAN DO
PROGRAMS. I MEET THESE PEOPLE
PERSONALLY I KNOW THEM
PERSONALLY. LET ME SAY FIRST OF
ALL OF THE L. A. REPORT READS TO
ME GREATLY LIKE SOMEONE WHO HAS
TRIED TO TAKE. A VERY COMPLEX
SITUATION AND DO SOME RESEARCH
ON IT BUT NOT REALLY GET TO THE
ROOTS. AT WHAT POINT WHEN YOU.
TRY TO PUT GUIDELINES ON
DISCRETION DOES IT CEASE TO
BECOME DISCRETION. AND DOESN'T
BECOME A CHECKLIST FOR PEOPLE WE
ARE DEALING WITH A VERY HUMAN.
SITUATION HERE AND WE NEED THAT
DISCRETION OF HUMAN BEINGS. WELL
TRAINED HUMAN BEINGS I GIVE
GREAT PROPS TO THE PROBOARDS.
THE TRAINING THEY HAVE I HAVE
PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS
OVER YEARS. THE LAST FOURTEEN
YEARS I HAVE NOT MISSED AN
EXECUTIVE MEETING OF THE PAROLE
BOARD. INCLUDING THE ONES IN
WHICH THEY GO THROUGH THE
TRAINING. I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL
THAT TRAINING THAT PUBLIC
TRAINING WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN
THEIR LEARNING AND I BELIEVE IT
DOES HELP THEM. I'M AS FAR AS
THE GRAY RATE. I THINK IF YOU
LOOK AT THE CURRENT RATE
REALISTICALLY. IT'S NOT WHAT
PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERHAPS
BUT IT'S COMING UP IT'S
REASONABLE. I URGE YOU NOT TO
LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF
THE GOOD AND THE IMPROVING. THIS
PAROLE BOARD IS MAKING GREAT
PROGRESS UNDER THIS
ADMINISTRATION WE'D LIKE TO SEE
IT CONTINUE. AND FOR ANYONE WHO
WANTS TO TALK ABOUT REPORTS OR
STATISTICS. I AM WORKING SEVEN
DAYS A WEEK SEVENTY HOURS A
WEEK. PLEASE CONTACT ME AT ANY
POINT. THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE. I'M CHAIR OF BETH ON
ASK YOU THIS YOU CALIFORNIA.
LIKE TO OFFER REMARKS AN ITEM
FOR THE CDC OUR PROGRAMMING AND
RE ENTRY. I'M AS THE MET
COMMITTEE MATERIALS NOTES
APPROXIMATE 46% OF RELEASE
PERSONS ARE RE CONVICTED IN
THREE YEARS. THIS CREATES A
CYCLE THAT IS NOT ONLY HARMFUL
FOR THE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR
FAMILIES. THE COMMUNITIES
THEY'RE COMING FROM COMMITTEES
THAT HISTORICALLY BEEN
MARGINALIZED OR LOW INCOME- THE
CC TEAR P. AND M. C. R. P.
PROGRAMS ARE BREAKING THIS
DANGEROUS CYCLE. THERE BRING
FAMILIES BACK TOGETHER AND
THEY'RE HELPING TO UPLIFT WILL
COMMUNITY IS. SEIU IS PROUD TO
REPRESENT THE WORK FORCE BEHIND
CDC OURS A LONGSTANDING. M. C.
R. P. PRO COMMUNITY PARTNER
PROGRAM. AND HEALTH RIGHT THREE
SIXTY. THIS PROGRAM EXISTS IN
THE HEART OF LOS ANGELES.
PROVIDE ROBUST EVIDENCE BASED
BEHAVIOR HEALTH RE ENTRY AND
SOCIAL SUPPORT SERVICES. FOR
HUNDRED EIGHTY MAN REGRETTABLY
AS NOTED EARLIER HEALTH RIGHT
THREE SIXTY IS ONE OF THE
EXISTING PROVIDERS. WAS NOTIFIED
CDC ARE THEY CANNOT SUSTAIN
THEIR PROGRAM THE CURRENT RATES
AND IS NOT CURRENTLY PLANNING TO
RE BAD. LAST YEAR HEALTH RIGHT
THREE SIXTY WAS AMONG THE
ORGANIZATIONS WHO FOUGHT- TO
MAKE SURE THERE'S ADDITIONAL
GENERAL FUND INVESTMENTS TO
PROVIDE. MORE OF THESE POWERFUL
PROGRAMS YET THERE'S NOT ANY
CLEAR PATHWAY FOR OUR CURRENT
PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN HERE THE
LONGEST MOST EXPERIENCED. TO GET
THOSE RATE INCREASES- AND TAKES
YOU TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE THERE
FOR OUR COMMUNITIES- THIS
COMMITTEE HAS THE POWER TO
CHANGE THAT NOT ONLY GUARANTEE
THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR STRONG
UNION JOBS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
HEALTH RIGHT THREE SIXTY. TO
GUARANTEE THE PROGRAMS LIKE
THESE ARE ENCOURAGED TO GROW SO
THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE SIMPLY
REDIRECTING WE THINK A SMALL
PORTION OF FUNDING. TO INCREASE
THE CURRENT RATES OF ALL RE
ENTRY PROVIDERS INCLUDING AND
SEE S. LIKE HEALTHCARE. THREE
SIXTY THANK YOU THANK YOU. WELL
I'M I'LL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM
NUMBER FIVE MY NAME IS ALYSSA
MORE TODAY OR WORK FOR LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN. ON THE TWENTY TWENTY
TO TWENTY THREE OTHER FRIEDMAN
POLICY FELLOW AS WELL AS A
PROGRAM MANAGER FOR OUR SOUL AS-
A REAR A REENTRY PROGRAM IN
OAKLAND CALIFORNIA I
ADMINISTERED THE W. H. O. GRANT.
WOMEN COMING HOME FROM
INCARCERATION THAT BEING SAID I
MYSELF BEGAN MY MENTAL HEALTH
CARE UNDER THE ADVISEMENT AND
THE COURT AT THE AGE OF NINE
HAVING LIVED THROUGH. WHAT BPH
COMMISSIONERS ON RECORD
DESCRIBED EASILY ONE OF THE MOST
HORRIFIC CHILDHOOD VACANCY. AT
THE AGE OF SEVENTEEN ARE
TREMENDOUS THE CARE CUSTODY OF
CCR. WELL I REMAIN TO THE EIGHTY
FOUR. YOUR THESE YEARS. LIKE
YOURSELF. CONTINUE TO INVEST IN
WHAT I ADVANCE ESTIMATE MUST'VE
BEEN A HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS IN MY MENTAL HEALTH.
REHABILITATION TWENTY TWENTY. I
WENT TO MY FINAL BPH HEARING AT
THIS TIME COMMISSIONERS
DISCUSSED MY CASE AND MY
CHILDHOOD TRAUMAS INJECT. AT
MANY DIFFERENT OCCASIONS IN THE
HEARING I WAS VISIBLY PHYSICALLY
AFFECTED BY HAVING TO RELIVE
TRIUMPH. AFTER SO MANY HEARINGS
SEVERAL COMPREHENSIVE RISK
ASSESSMENTS. AND ADDITIONAL
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS MY STANCE
IS THAT GIVEN THE EXTENSIVE
AMOUNT OF DOCUMENTS PERTAINING
TO THESE EVENTS. THE LINE OF
DISCRETIONARY QUESTIONS WAS NOT
ONLY UNNECESSARY BECAUSE IT
REBELLED HARM. AND FOR ALL
INTENTS PURPOSES THESE QUESTIONS
WERE NOT RELEVANT TO THE DAY'S
PROCEEDINGS. THESE THE EXTENSIVE
LINE OF INVASIVE QUESTION PROVED
DRAMATIC SO DRAMATIC THAT AFTER
BEING FOUND SUITABLE FOR PAROLE.
I REQUEST YOU TO SEE MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. AT THE
HEARING AS THE HEARING WAS
CONCLUDED. I WAS DENIED
PSYCHIATRIC DETENTION BY BOTH
CDCR STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS.
COOLEY BOTH PARTIES DISPLAYED. A
BLATANT DISREGARD FOR MY HEALTH
AND SAFETY. BY NEGLECTING TO
PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
IN CLOSING THE CONSISTENT
EFFORTS BY PPH TO USE BROAD
DISCRETION. AS IT PERTAINS TO
THE LINE OF QUESTIONING IN BPH
THANKS MITIGATING FACTORS USED
THE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
LACK OF INSIGHT COMPREHENSIVE
RICKETS AT RISK ASSESSMENTS AND
THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THE PRISON.
THE PART THAT IN PRISON REACTIVE
BEHAVIORS OF INDIVIDUAL DUE TO
HIGH STRESS SITUATIONS AND
FACTORS UNIQUE TO INCARCERATION
WILL PARALLEL BEHAVIORS OF THAT
SAME INDIVIDUAL IN SOCIETY
CLEARLY GIVES PARA MEMBERS FAR
TOO MUCH DISCRETION AND
SIMULTANEOUSLY GIVES
INCARCERATED. INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS MYSELF. NO
SAFEGUARDS BEING FORCED TO
RELIVE SIGNIFICANT TRAUMAS THAT
HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN DOCUMENTED.
THANK IN DETAIL. THANK YOU. CAN
I CAN I FINISH IN FACT IF YOU
WITH MY CREDIT UP IN FACT I JUST
WANTED TO BE KNOWN THAT. I AM
NOT THE NORM. BEING SUCCESSFUL
IN BEING ABLE TO SPEAK BEFORE.
MEMBERS TODAY I'M THE EXCEPTION
AND MANY OF MY PEERS HAVE IN
FACT TAKEN HER LIFE AFTER THIS
LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM BPH
COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE. MODERATOR IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS- OF I'M SORRY WE
DON'T SEE ANY MORE WITNESSES
HERE IN THE ROOM AND PERSON
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL
BEGIN. AND IF YOU WOULD LET US
KNOW WHAT PHONE NUMBER PEOPLE
WAITING TO TESTIFY. DEFINITELY
WE HAVE ABOUT SIX THAT ARE IN
QUEUE RIGHT NOW- LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT IT IS ONE
THEN ZERO. AND ONCE AGAIN A
PUBLIC COMMENT IT'S ONE THEN
ZERO. AND WE HAD SIX WE WILL
START WITH LINE NUMBER TWENTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. I GET
AFTERNOON COMMITTEE- CAN YOU
HEAR ME OK YES. YES GO AHEAD
OKAY THANK YOU MY NAME IS A
BARGAIN CENTER ON THE CAMPAIGN
MANAGER AT THE ELLA BAKER CENTER
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS I'D LIKE TO
SPEAK ON THE ITEMS YOU ASKING
CANTEEN FOR ISSUE NUMBER TWO-
ESSENTIAL FOOD AND HYGIENE
SUPPLIES PURCHASED I CAN THINK
THAT GREAT THANK ARE NOT
AMERICAL. THESE ITEMS ARE
ESSENTIAL FOR INCARCERATED FOLKS
THEIR BIBLE YOU MUST ELIMINATE
NOT JUST REDUCE THE MARKUPS ON
CANTEEN ITEMS THAT URGENT NEED
TO ENSURE INCARCERATED PEOPLE'S
ACCENT THAT ESSENTIAL FOOD
SUPPLIES AND HYGIENE PRODUCTS
FOR INCARCERATED PEOPLE-
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THE MAJORITY
OF CAMPAIGN SPENDING IT ON FOOD.
AND ESSENTIAL HYGIENE ITEMS THAT
INCARCERATED PEOPLE IN NEED
ACCESS DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE
ACCESS TO AND MANY INCARCERATED
PEOPLE RELY ON CANTEEN FOOD FOR
TECHNICAL CAN'T PORTION OF THEIR
DAILY CALORIC INTAKE COMMONLY
PURCHASED ITEMS IF I CONCLUDE
ALSO INCLUDE FOR THE PAPER SOAP
SHOWER SANDALS- AND- ON MENTION
PRODUCTS LIKE CETERA. IN A
TWENTY TWENTY REPORT FROM
IMPACTED IF THREE FIFTHS OF THE
FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE
SURVEYED SAID THAT THEY COULD
NOT AFFORD CANTEEN PURCHASES.
AND THAT MANY 5% REPORTED THAT
ACT THE FOOD WAS LIMITED BY
THEIR OWN OR THEIR FAMILY
FINANCES. MANY PEOPLE REPORTED
HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN BUYING
FOOD OR GOING HUNGRY TO PURCHASE
NECESSITIES SUCH AS TOOTHPASTE.
ON THESE BARRIERS HAVE ONLY
INCREASED IN TWENTY TWENTY WITH
THE ONSET OF PANDEMIC AND RISING
INFLATION RATE- ELIMINATING
CAN'T BE MARKUPS WHAT THEY
FAMILIES IMPACTED BY
INCARCERATION MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS EACH YEAR. WHICH IS
IMPORTANT BECAUSE MANY FAMILIES
WITH INCARCERATED LOVED ONES ARE
IN POVERTY AND STRUGGLING TO
MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING NEXT
PLEASE. THANK YOU NUMBER TWENTY.
THE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS
YVONNE GUNS. I AM THE FAMILY
UNITY. WITH NICKEL FOR PRISONERS
WERE CHILDREN AND WHAT THEY-
WITH. THAT HAPPENING. LOVED ONES
ON ISSUES SUCH AS VISITING AND
CONTAIN PRICES. I AM CALLING
SPECIFICALLY ON ISSUE NUMBER ONE
AND NUMBER TWO- NINETEEN MARKUPS
DID NOT GO UP BECAUSE OF THE
RECENT INFLATION THE SIXTY FIVE.
PERCENT MARKUP HAS BEEN THE SAME
FOR OVER A DECADE. YOUR DOES NOT
PROVIDE ENOUGH FOOD A PERSONAL
HYGIENE ITEM FOR INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS. AND THAT'S WHY
CONVENE IS AN ESSENTIAL PROVIDE
THE RESTARTS IN STATE PRISON.
CONVENE ITEM CANNOT BE AFFORDED
BY INCARCERATED PEOPLE BECAUSE
OF THE WAGES THAT YOU HEARD HERE
TODAY THAT THEY ARE GETTING
PAID. FOR BE A JOB THAT ARE
MAKING THE STATE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS WHILE INCARCERATED
PEOPLE ARE ONLY MAKING A DOLLAR
AN HOUR. IMAGINE GOING TO WORK
HUNGRY OR TO SCHOOL OR YOU
BELIEVE DATA PROGRAM AND YOU'RE
HUNGRY HOW CAN YOU SUCCESSFULLY
REHABILITATE. IF THEY'RE HUNGRY
AND DID NOT HAVE THE ESSENTIAL
PERSONAL. HUMAN ITEM TO KEEP
YOURSELF CLEAN AND HEALTHY
PROBABLY EIGHT PERCENT- HALF OF
THE EIGHT CENTS AN HOUR WAGE
THAT. INCARCERATE PEOPLE GET
PAID FOR GROWTH TO RESTITUTION
LEAVING CARDS READY PEOPLE WITH
ONLY FOUR CENTS AN HOUR. I THINK
ON THE FOLGERS COFFEE. COST NINE
DOLLARS IN A PRISON CONVENE IT
IS OBVIOUS THAT INCARCERATE
PEOPLE CAN NOT AFFORD TO PAY
THAT HIGH MARKUP ITEMS. LEAVING
THE FAMILIES OF INCARCERATED
PEOPLE TO PAY FOR THAT HIGH
PRICES. MOST OF YOUR
CONSTITUENTS TODAY WITH AN
INCARCERATED LOVED ONES ALREADY
COME FROM LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES
WHY SHOULD LOW INCOME FAMILIES
BE PAYING FOR. THEIR WAGES AND
THEIR PENCHANT FOR
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS. FOR
THEIR LOVED ONES- DONE PERSONAL
HYGIENE WAS THERE OUT LARGE
ENOUGH THE STATE. IT IS THE
GENERAL FUND THAT SHOULD TAKE
CARE OF THE IF WE ARE BACK WITH
THEIR- TODAY CALLING FOR- OF
BETTER IN A LOT OF FUN- THANK
YOU. YOU ARE IMPRACTICAL OVERLY
. THANK YOU FOR NEXT PLEASE. WE
HAVE NEXT LINE NUMBER TWENTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. A GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS. KIM AND
I'M A POLICY MANAGER ON COMMON
LAW HERE TO SPEAK ON ISSUE
NUMBER TWO. AS NOTED TODAY THE
PRIMARY SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR
THE INMATE WELFARE FUND IS
GRABBING FROM CANTEEN SALES.
WHILE THIS MAY SEEM APPROPRIATE
FROM AN ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE
FROM A MORAL STANDPOINT. I WANT
TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S GOING
ON IF YOU START PUSHING ITS OWN
OPERATING EXPENSES NAMELY THE
COST OF PAYING THE CANTEEN
STAFF. ON TO INCARCERATED PEOPLE
AND. THEIR LOVED ONES TO PRICE
GOUGING. THE AVERAGE MARKUP AND
A GROCERY STORE IS A GET
PERCENT. YEAH THREE PEOPLE UNDER
WERE OF THE MOST AND PEOPLE IN
OUR STATE ARE BEING FORCED TO
PASS 5% MARK THAT. IS OFTEN USE
THAN INCREDULITY FOR PAYING AN
EVEN HIGHER PRICE FOR A PRODUCT
AND SOMEONE WOULD PAY FOR THE
SAME PRODUCT AT A MAJOR
RETAILER. EVEN A REDUCED MARKUP
OF AROUND 40% I SUGGESTED
EARLIER IT'S STILL. AGREE JUST
AND DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH. WE
MUST ALTER MY THAT IN PEOPLE OF
NATURE CENTER OUR AND MANY OF
THEIR LOVED ONES ARE STRUGGLING
WITH POVERTY. IN ADDITION
PROGRAMS LIKE THE INNOVATIVE
PROGRAM GRANTS DO NOT NEED TO BE
FUNDED BY THE INMATE WELFARE
FUND AT ALL. IN FACT THOSE
GRANTS WERE ORIGINALLY FUNDED
DOOR GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION AND
SIMILAR REHABILITATIVE GRANT ALL
OF THE COMPANY'S GENERAL FUND.
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR
THEIR OWN REHABILITATION IF YOU
START PUBLIC DUTY TO PROVIDE THE
APPLICATION WITH TAXPAYER FUNDS
. IN ADDITION TO THE 35% MARKUP
IS EXTREMELY HIGH IN COMPARISON
TO THE MARKET CHARGE OTHER STATE
PRISON CANTEENS. WASHINGTON AND
KENTUCKY TARGET 10% MARKUP ON
THEIR PRISON COMMISSARY FAILED.
VIRGINIA CHARGES A 9% MARKUP.
AND A WORKING GROUP UNDER
CORRECTION DEPARTMENT HAD
FORMALLY RECOMMENDED TO THEIR
LEGISLATURE THAT ALLOCATE MONEY
IN THE GENERAL FUND TO REPLACE
9% MARKUP. THIS WORKING GROUP
RECOGNIZED THAT EVEN A 9% MARKUP
ON CANTEEN SALES. PLACES AN
UNACCEPTABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON
A GROWTH YOU'RE THE PEOPLE AND
THEIR FAMILIES. I URGE THE
COMMITTEE TODAY TO CONSIDER A
SIMILAR APPROACH. ALLOCATE MONEY
IN OUR GENERAL FUND TO PROVIDE
FUNDING FOR THE EXPENSES AND
MAKE WELFARE FUND. INSTEAD OF
RELYING ON REVENUE THAT COMES
STRAIGHT OUT OF THE POCKETS OF
POOR FAMILIES IMPACTED BY
INCARCERATION. APR MUST BE
RESPONSIBLE. FOR OUR- THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR. NEXT PLEASE. NEXT
WE HAVE LINE NUMBER TWENTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I THANK YOU. A
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS BILLY
THANK KELLY. I REPRESENT THE
ELEVATION ON THE OUTSIDE FELLOW.
WHICH BEGIN ON ISSUE NUMBER FIVE
ON FIVE GROW- I'M RETURNS
SHOULDN'T INCLUDED TWENTY TWO
AND A HALF YEARS IN PRISON FOR
THE AGE OF FIFTEEN. I WAS
RELEASED ON FEBRUARY SEVENTH
TWENTY TWENTY THREE AFTER THREE
PAROLE HEARINGS GOVERNOR BROWN
COMMITTEE MONTH INCIDENT TWENTY
EIGHTEEN. WHICH MEANS HE THOUGHT
I WAS READY TO BE RELEASED. BUT
THE COMMISSIONERS HE APPOINTED
THIS AGREEMENT NOW. MY
EXPERIENCE WITH THE COLD WAR WAS
ADVERSARIAL. PREJUDICE BIAS AND
ADVERSE. COMMISSIONERS ARE
SUPPOSED TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED
ON SOMEONE'S CURRENT PUBLIC
SAFETY REYES. AND TO BE
IMPARTIAL THOSE THINGS REALLY
HAPPEN IF AT ALL I IN DOWN ABOUT
THE APPLICANT'S GROW APPLICANTS
HAVE BEEN DENIED PAROLE BASED ON
THESE FACTORS. THE BOX CLEAN
NINE CRIMINAL THINK IN NEXT TO A
CRIME LANCASTER AWARENESS
COMMITMENT OFFICE THE
COMMISSIONER BY. LACK OF
PROGRAMMING A PERSON A PERSON
HISTORY OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR BOB
INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF PRISON
WELL TRANSPARENCY
ACCOUNTABILITY. THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERING MY COMMENTS TODAY IN
MY EMAIL YOU CAN FIND IT IN
DEPTH BREAKDOWN OF THESE TERMS
AND WHAT THEY MEAN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING NEXT
PLEASE. THANKS FOR HAVE MY
NUMBER TWO FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HI MY NAME IS **** IN ON
OPPOSED FELLOW LEGAL SIR WITH
WHICH- AND I'M TO SPEAK. ON
COURSE- WAGES COUNTRY JUST- I AN
ADULT FAMILY. IN ARCHY SAID
YEARS. I WOULD HAVE TO DO GROUP
DISAGREED THAT THE CONCERNS OF
THOSE ARE OF COURSE OF. OR FOR
FROM. WHETHER WE'RE GAINING
MINOR IT WOULD BE MORE GEARED.
THE TO. PEDRO IN. AND LACK OF
THAT WE DO GIVE. I WOULD ALSO
LIKE TO POINT OUT WHEN WE- THAT
HAS OCCURRED KNEW. AT THIS AWAY
FROM THE LAST GUY THIS WHICH HE
IS OUR CALL WILL STILL. AS FAR
AS OUR IN OUR SCHOOL- ANYONE'S
THAT IT A SCHEDULE FOR ANY. OR
STRUGGLING COURSE CARCERI. THIS
THANK YOU THE FOOD ITSELF THAT
IS BECAUSE FROM. TRUMP'S YOUR SO
THOSE ARE ACOSTA. OR HORRIBLE IS
THE PROCESS THAT THE SCHOOL YOU
MADE IN WOODEN PASSED IN OF
SPACE ON THE STREETS. AND HAVING
CANTINA ITEMS THAT SUPPLEMENT
EVEN THOUGH MAY NOT AS MANY
CHOICE HAVING I THAT STUCK WITH
ME WE ARE GIVEN BY STATE
INSTANCE FOR US THE KEY UP WITH
NETWORK INTAKE AND MAINTAIN SOME
TYPE OF. FORUMS AND SQUEEZING
THE LIFE OUT OF OUR LEVEL IN
RICH THEM NOW OF THAT WE CAN
MAKE OURSELVES TO COMPENSATE
WITH. IS A NECESSARY AND IS
THERE ANY ON. IN THIS AS OUR
HELLO HEARINGS I DO BELIEVE THAT
THE SHORE THAT YOUR TO BE. A
LITTLE. RAYLENE OF THE
DISCRETION OF PROGRAM. AND I DO
BELIEVE AND CHANCE IS ESSENTIAL
WHERE IS NOT CAN. MITIGATE THIS
ISSUE BY COMMISSIONER WHO ARE
FACING THE MAKING BY ON THINGS
THAT DO NOT PROVE THAT A PERSON
IS MORE LIKE TO BE A THREAT TO
SOCIETY. I MYSELF AVERAGED WITH
ORACLE WILL HEARING AND MEET
DENIED SO THE BAY OFF THINGS
THAT DID NOT CRUEL THAT ARE WORK
GREAT TO TRY IN YOUR AND YOUR
LATER. AFTER PROBLEMS. THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR CALLING. IT NEXT
PLEASE. OKAY MEDICARE WAS HAVE
THREE LEFT IN Q. MOVE GO TO LAW
NUMBERS. I HATE COULD NOT ME.
YEAH GO AHEAD. I'M OF ALL OF US
NINE ON THE CHECK TO ORGANIZE A
PRESS. ALSO WOULD REALLY WAS FOR
PRISONERS CHIU. CAN'T B. O. BUT
A MUSCLE TALK WHAT MY CAR IN MY
SISTER THE- US ABOUT I WAS
REALLY TRIGGERING. EMILY TRIGG
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M IN. OF ALL
THE PAIN THAT THEY ARE HAD TO GO
. IN THERE I LIKE SHOULD BE
KINDA GOT THE NIGHT IT LOOKS
BEING THE SENTENCE. AND I'D LIKE
LIKE YOU COULD GOING TO- LIKE
HOW HOW DO YOU CAN USE WORK FOR
FOLKS PEOPLE WHO WHO HAD THIS.
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES COME GET GO
AS YOU GO IT YOU CAN GET IN THE
AND ALL OF GIVE WAY AND I KNOW
GOT. I ASKED IF THEY WOULD LET
THE WHOLE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE
COULD SIXTY BECAUSE WE HAD A
EIGHT D. L. L. IN PRE PREPPED
THE THESE. OFF THE TICKER THE
THAT IS FOR PRE. THEY HAVE LIFE
YOU KNOW WHICH IS MANDATE AND
HOW THE MONEY THE CALL FACTORS
OF THE- IT I HAD A LIFE A KILO-
IN THE START OF- THE PROGRAM
THAT EXPANDED TO DEFER NOT-
REGIONS THROUGH. FACILITY
BECAUSE SOFTWARE IN THE COVERAGE
. OF PEOPLE GETTING INSIDE AND-
FOR THE FOR AGONY IN TRY OKAY
THE A BY TOWARD THE COMPRISED BY
MOSTLY LAW ENFORCEMENT. THANK
YOU HAVE KNOWING YOU PEOPLE IN
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW
CYCLE. IS YOU DON'T HAVE KNOWN
BY COMMUNE MEMBER WHOSE GREAT.
OUR SOCIETY THAT WILL COOL NEED
TO EVERY IS REALLY HI THANK YOU
FOR TIME. IF THE TO GET ARE
LIKELY- YOU KNOW A LITTLE OF
TIME YOU KNOW I WORKED WITH OVER
FIVE THOUSAND NAY ON SOME OF THE
MOST DECREASED FROM UP. FACILITY
WRITING COOLEY GETTING TRAIN BY
OTHER EVIDENCE OFF WHAT NOT I.
SO WILL. BE COMING OUT HERE WITH
HOUSE DON'T I WOULD CHANGE WILL
ALL I CAME SECOND. IS COULD
CHANGE LAW BECAUSE RIGHT NOW DO
I DON'T RATHER. YEP COULD YOU
RAP IT UP SO. A FIVE DAYS TO
COME HOME I LOCKED. YOUR WITHOUT
A GROUP SO THAT WE ARE TO
COMMITTEE BILLING TO BE OF VALUE
. EIGHTY AND I DO.
I'M FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE
RESEARCHED HUNDREDS OF CHORAL
WORK TRANSCRIPT WOULD ACTUALLY-
SO FAR GONE IN A FEW THINKING
RAN OVER SIX HUNDRED TRANSCRIPTS
FROM WORLD WAR HEARING HELD
DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE CALL
THE NINETEEN TEN TO MAKE.
ADDITIONALLY OUTLAW THE LAB ONE
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED- HE
TREATED WITH CONTINGENT UPON
SUCCESSFUL THE BOARD WHICH IS
ONE OF THE REASONS I STARTED
LOOKING AT THE TRANSCRIPT IN THE
FIRST PLACE. I WAS SURPRISED
WHEN THE TRENDS THAT WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED AND BECAUSE OF TIME
RESTRAINTS I WOULD JUST OFFER
ONE EXAMPLE LOCAL INTERNET THE
DIFFERENT TIMES OF BROUGHT UP
THE SAME CONCERN AROUND PEOPLE
THAT REQUIRE TRANSLATOR. BETWEEN
BACK FROM EVERY PERSON THAT
PRODUCT MARGINS YOU INCLUDED A
FILLING THE COMMISSIONERS WERE
SHORT INPATIENT AND AIRBALL WHEN
HEARING THE PLACE INCLUDING HER
TRANSLATOR IN ONE PARTICULAR
CASE THE TRANSLATOR AT ONE POINT
THAT YOU CAN COMMISSIONER WAIT.
SHOULD I TRANSLATE THAT. YOU
TRANSLATE EVERYTHING THERE THE
PERSON WORK. AND HEARING THAT IS
THE ONLY TO THE BEING FOUGHT FOR
COMPARED TO JUST WITH THE BIG
HIGHLY. EVERY PERSON OF BEFORE
BOARDS HAVE TO PAY MORE. IT
SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ ALL
INFORMATION THAT IS BEING
HEARING THAT QUITE LITERALLY
TERMS TRAJECTORY OF ONE LIFE OR
ANYTHING LIKE THREE TO FIVE
FIFTEEN YEARS OF COMING. MY OWN
LOVE ONE OF. SIXTEEN THANK EARLY
POSSIBLE DATE LAST. WENT SO WELL
THAT A VERY AND BOTH MEN AND
ATTORNEY HE WAS. CARD A FINDING
OF DISABILITY. THERE WAS NO
PROGRAM NEEDED. BY THE
COMMISSIONER WHEN THEY DID I.
KNOW THAT YOU NEEDED TO TAKE
CONTROL FOR HIGH DETAIL. INCLUDE
A BACKUP JUST IN CASE. HE WAS
BASICALLY TO KEEP DOING WHAT
YOU'RE DOING AND ARE SURE THAT
HE WILL GET A FINAL INABILITY AT
THE NEXT. HEARING EVEN THE VERY
RARE THAT YOU GET THE SAME
COMMISSIONER. THANK WHEN HEARING
AND THE NECK MISSIONER YOU GET.
ME NOT AGREE WITH THEIR YOU
CONSIDER THE WORDS OF THE-
COMMISSIONERS. THREE YEARS
DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THROUGH MY TO
COME. WITH IT SEEMS LIKE A
ENTIRE- FOR OUR YOUNG MANAGER.
AND WHY HE- YEAH HOME TO. I
DIDN'T GIVE HER HIGH. WE THE
DIVISION FROM THE POPULACE OF
PEOPLE REQUIRE FINAL THE BILITY
. DURING THE COLD WAR IN ORDER
TO GO HOME LESS THAN THREE PER.
LESS THAN 1% ONLY LOOK AT CRIME
BUT- PERSON. WHICH IN MY OPINION
IS THAT WE WALKED. OPENING
IMPRISON EVEN NOT A PROPER
MARRIAGE OF. PUBLIC THANK YOU.
THANK FOR CALLING NECK PLEASE.
NEXT REAL QUICK OF. BERTH THIRTY
FOUR. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH KEEP
WHAT WE FOUND ONE. LAW TO ABOUT
ALLOW ITEM THE GOLD BOARD- SHAPE
GIVES NUMBER WHICH LIKES. WHAT
SHE HARD WITHOUT THAT. HAPLESS
KENDALL TO HEARINGS DON'T TAKE
LIKE. AND BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE
AND PEOPLE SPEEDING HEALTH
TREATMENT. MAYBE MORE. TO WEIGH
THEIR HE- OR TO GIVE UNTIL.
BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO
BE HOW THAT HIRES. LEVEL PRISON
THAT HAVE LESS ACCESS THE
RELEVANT PROGRAMS. AND HIGHER
RATES OF VIOLENCE. OF THE
REVITALIZATION. MACHE FOR BOTH.
ABOUT A BROOM RATE AT THIRTY
PER. BUT SHE RECONCILE THAT WITH
THE FACT THAT THE LAW ENACTED BY
THIS LEGISLATURE. REQUIRES OUR
COMMISSIONERS GEOGRAPHICAL MOST
OF THE TIME. THEY'RE DENYING
PAROLE 70% OF THE TIME AND SHE'S
DEFENDING THAT. BALANCE IS NOT
TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE
LITIGATION ABOUT OVER THIRTY.
ABOUT THE NINETEEN ACCORDING
STEP IN HER PROMISES ABOUT WHAT
SHE WOULD CHANGE ABOUT THE
PROCESS. L. B. L. L. JUST
TESTIFIED THE ONLY AVAILABLE
DATA PROVES THOSE PROMISES HAVE
SIMPLY NOT BEEN MET NOT EVEN
CLOSE. IN FACT THE PROGRAM RATE
HAS DECREASED EVERY SINGLE YEAR
SINCE THOSE PROMISES WERE MADE.
WE NEED TO RECKON WITH THE FACT
THAT CALIFORNIA'S WORLD WAR
DENIES PEOPLE WILL BECAUSE
THEY'RE TO BLACK OR BROWN. TWO
OLD THE WRONG GENDER AND TO MANY
OF THE WRONG KIND OF
DISABILITIES. WHAT THE WRONG
LANGUAGE OF THAT WAS DUE TO MUCH
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT FOR ALL
COMMISSIONERS FEEL COMFORTABLE
WITH THAT. NOT ABOUT WHETHER
THEIR VIOLENCE RISK. ALSO TO
RECKON WITH THE FACT THAT CRIED
COUNSEL ENOUGH TIME TO KNOW
THEIR- AND HELP THEM TO SEE THE
INDIVIDUALIZED. TO GET PAST SOME
OF THE MOST COMMON BIASES IN
THIS PROCESS. EVERY OTHER PHASE
OF OUR SOCIETY NOT JUST A
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM
CONSISTENTLY DISCRIMINATES
AGAINST THESE GROUPS IT IS
ABSOLUTELY OFFENSIVE. BROWN TO
PRETEND THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
THAT THE COLD WAR JUST ASK THE
FAMILIES OF A RECORD NUMBER OF
PEOPLE KILLED BY POLICE LAST
YEAR. HOW MUCH ALL THE YEARS OF
POLICE BY STRAINING HELP KEEP
THEIR LOVED ONES A LOT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR CALLING NEXT
PLEASE. THROUGH ABOUT CRUISE
LAST ONE IN Q. AND THAT IS MY
NUMBER. THIRTY SIX PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS JESSE
CLYDE BURLISON I AM BE IN
CUSTODY PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND
LEGAL SERVICES FOR PRISONERS
WITH CHILDREN. I WANTED TO POINT
OUT. THAT DURING THE- QUESTION
AND ANSWER FAITHFUL I THINK IT
WAS ITEM NUMBER TWO BILLION
WITH- THE CANTEEN. THE SIXTY
FIVE PERCENT- WHERE WHATEVER THE
QUESTION BY THE PANEL. CHARGED
AROUND THE PAY WILL CALL. AND I
LOOK LIKE THE QUESTION WAS GOING
TO BE ASKED. HOW MUCH DO TO
PRISONERS. GET PAID THERE WAS AN
IMMEDIATE- INTERJECTION ON THE
PART OF THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM
THE CDC ARE- SO THAT YOU DID NOT
. BASICALLY ASKING QUESTION 
WITH MY SIMPLE I WAS LISTENING
TO IT AS THE NUMBERS WOULD BEING
GIVEN ABOUT THERE BEING A TWENTY
THREE MILLION DOLLAR PAY WELL
CALLS- THE COMPANY CANTEEN. THAT
THERE WAS A SEVENTEEN MILLION
DOLLAR- TOO MUCH EMERGENCY FUND
THAT I BELIEVE SAID STATUTORILY
CAPPED IN THE IMF. AND THAT
THERE IS CURRENTLY A FIFTY
MILLION DOLLAR- ASAT SITTING
THERE. ARE THE TALK ABOUT THE
FLUCTUATING BECAUSE I WAS IN
PRISON FOR THIRTY ONE YEARS- ALL
ALSO ON I FEEL WITH THE IMPACT
OF HIGH PRICES. EVERY MONTH THAT
I WENT TO THE CANTEEN. I THINK
THAT- THE PRICES IN THERE ARE
RIDICULOUSLY HIGH ESPECIALLY
WHEN YOU CONSIDER. THAT THE
ACTUAL. MONEY THAT YOU MAKE ONE
YOU DO IS LEFT IN THE AN HOUR.
AND I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO
BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ALSO
THEY'RE TAKING OUT THIRTY THREE
PERCENT. FOR ANY RESTITUTION
DEBT YOU MAY OWE FROM IF
SOMEBODY CAN YOU A HUNDRED
DOLLARS. YOU ONLY GET WHAT 67%
OF THAT. AND SOME PEOPLE MAYBE
EVEN- MORE. NEED TO BE TAKEN THE
LEAD. THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR CALLING- MODERATOR
IS AT THE END OF THE- THAT IS WE
DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE IN Q. MA'AM
. THANK YOU MODERATOR- FOR YOU
YOUR SUPPORT I WANT TO THANK THE
STAFF OF THAT HAVE BEEN HERE.
FOR FIVE HOURS I WANT TO THANK
EVERY AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S
STILL HERE- THANK YOU SO MUCH.
FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR
HANGING IN THERE- I THANK ALL
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO PARTICIPATED
EITHER IN MAKING PRESENTATIONS
OR AND BEING WITNESSES I HOPE
YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING. ON THEIR
POINT TO US ALL OF YOUR
TESTIMONY AND PRESENTATIONS ARE
UP IN THE OFFICIAL HEARING
RECORDS AND UP WE APPRECIATE
YOUR PARTICIPATION. WE HAVE
CONCLUDED OF THE AGENDA FOR
TODAY'S HEARING THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
WE'RE SORRY YOUR CONFERENCE IS
ENDING NOW PLEASE HANG UP.