RIGHT SENATE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
SAFETY WILL COME TO ORDER GOOD
MORNING OF THE SENATE CONTINUE
TO WELCOME PUBLIC IN PERSON- AND
THE OF THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PUBLIC- PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT
TODAY PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. SIXTY NINE FORTY EIGHT NINE
THIRTY WE'RE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARING HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND THE-
STREET BUILDING I ASK ALL OF
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO BE
PRESENT IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. SO WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR
QUORUM AND BEGIN FAR HEARING- SO
CALLED I THINK WE CAN CALL THE
CORE NOW. BOB HERE WILL HAVE
HERE SO THE TROUBLE CARE YOUR
AYE FOR HERE SKINNER WIENER. ALL
RIGHT HAS BEEN STATE WE FIFTY
BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO OUR
CONCERT SB NINETY VICE RUBIO HAS
BEEN PULLED FROM TODAY'S AGENDA
AND RESET FOR NEXT WEEK BEFORE
WE HEAR PRESENTATIONS ON THE
BILL'S LET'S BRING THAT PART-
NOW LET'S HEAR FROM OUR FIRST
AUTHOR US SENATOR MARIE OVER OUT
OF GUILT. SB. TWO SIXTY EIGHT.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS- AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE STAFF. I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR BEING WITH ME THIS
MORNING TO HEAR SENATE BILL TWO
SIX EIGHT. AND NOT ONLY IS THIS
A DEEPLY PERSONAL BILL FOR ME
THIS IS ALSO ONE THAT HAS
CREATED A LOT OF EMOTIONS AND A
LOT OF FEELINGS I AM NOT ONLY
HERE THE CAPITAL BUT ALSO
THROUGHOUT MY DISTRICT. IS A
PLEASURE FOR ME TO PRESENT THIS-
ON BEHALF OF SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT- FOR APRIL SEXUAL
ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. IN ITS
CURRENT FORM SENATE BILL TWO SIX
EIGHT MAKES ALL RAPES INCLUDING
AN UNCONSCIOUS PERSON A VIOLENT
FELONY IN CALIFORNIA. EXISTING
LAW ALREADY INCLUDES RAPE IS A
VIOLENT FELONY WHEN COMMITTED
AGAINST A PERSON'S WILL BY MEANS
OF FORCE VIOLENCE DURESS. MENACE
OR FEAR OR BY THREAT OF VIOLENT
RETALIATION. HOWEVER RAPE IS NOT
CONSIDERED A VIOLENT CRIME WHEN
COMMITTED AGAINST A PERSON WHO
IS UNABLE TO GIVE CONSENT DUE TO
INTOXICATION. UNCONSCIOUSNESS OR
A DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY. I
UNDERSTAND THAT MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
ADDING ANOTHER STRIKE TO THE
THREE STRIKES LAW. AND PRISON
OVERCROWDING IN CALIFORNIA. AND
I'M HERE TO SAY THAT I TO SHARE
THE SAME CONCERN. HOWEVER
OPPOSITION FIFTY SEVEN GIVES
FELONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE
CONSIDERED FOR EARLY RELEASE IF
THEY ARE NOT SERVING TIME FOR
VIOLENT FELONY. THAT MEANS
ALLOWING MORE RAPISTS ON OUR
STREETS TO CONTINUE. TO
PERPETRATE. THIS BLOCK ALLOWS
FOR THE EARLY RELEASE OF THOSE
WHO HAVE RAPED THE VICTIM UNABLE
TO GIVE CONSENT. EARLY RELEASE
UNDER PROP FIFTY SEVEN WOULD NOT
BE GRANTED TO SOMEONE WHO
FORCIBLY REYES THE VICTIM. AS
OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO TOOK THE
EXTRA STEP TO DRUG THEIR VICTIMS
FIRST. THIS IN EQUITY IS SIMPLY
WRONG. VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
OFTEN FACE LEGAL AND SOCIETAL
HURDLES WHEN TRYING TO ATTAIN
JUSTICE. AND DURING THIS
DIFFICULT PROCESS THE STATE
SHOULD NOT FURTHER DISTRESS
VICTIMS WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF
THEIR ATTACKER RECEIVING LESSER
PUNISHMENT JUST BECAUSE THEY
WERE INCAPACITATED. I SPEAK OUT
NOT ONLY AS A SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT. BUT AS A VOICE OF WOMEN
MEN THE L. LGBTQ COMMUNITY AND
CHILDREN EVERYWHERE. SENATE TO
SIX EIGHT BRINGS PARITY TO THESE
VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. IN
ADDITION TO THAT I WANT TO THANK
THE COMMITTEE AND THANK THE
CHAIR FOR WORKING WITH ME ON
AMENDMENTS TO NARROW THE BILL
AND APPLY NEW VIOLENT FELONY.
ONLY TO SOMEONE WHO CAUSES THE
INTOXICATION OF THE VICTIM THAT
THEY HAVE RAPED I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK
YOU- SENATOR WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WE HAVE
ANY. NOW OKAY- WILL MOVE ON TO
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT- IN
THIS ROOM. YOUR MANAGER MICHAEL
FUHRMAN ON BEHALF CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
YEAH ANYBODY ELSE. ALL RIGHT
SEEING NINE WILL MOVE TO LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THIS
ROOM. GOOD MORNING LESLIE
CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE- WE HAD NOT SEEN THE
AMENDS SO. WE WILL REMAIN
OPPOSED UNTIL WE CAN LOOK AT IT-
AND I SUSPECT WE'LL WITHDRAW OUR
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT AND- JUST
FOR CLARITY'S PURPOSE I WILL
READ WHAT THE AMENDMENT- IS.
COMMITTEE AMENDMENT TO MERRY THE
BILL TO APPLY TO RAPE OF AN
INTOXICATED PERSON WHERE THE
DEFENDANT INTENTIONALLY CAUSED
INTOXICATION BY DRAGGING THE
VICTIM WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT IN
ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE RATE.
AND SENATOR YOU ACCEPT THAT
AMENDMENT CORRECT EXCEPT
AMENDMENT YES ALL RIGHT DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES YES THANK YOU SENATOR
WILL. GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS
MY NAME IS COMICAL **** I AM
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
FOR ACLU CALIFORNIA ACTION GOING
ALSO SENATE OUT OF JAIL AND WE
ARE RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION
TO SB TWO SIXTY EIGHT I DO
APPRECIATE THEM IMMENSE I'M NOT
QUITE PROCESS THEM BUT DO COME
DOWN UNDER. ALREADY UNDERSTAND
THAT IT WOULD STILL CREATE A NEW
VIOLENT OFFENSE. AND WHAT FEEL
YOU DOES NOT THIS THAT THOSE WHO
COMMIT SUCH ASSAULT SHOULD HELD.
QUITE PLAINLY THE LAW ALL DOES
THAT IN OUR AT. M. WELL AS WE DO
SIXTY EIGHT WILL ADD MORE TIME
IN PRISON AND THEREBY RESPOND
TOLERATE OUR DISCUSSED WHICH IS-
NOT TO BE DIMINISHED IT WILL NOT
HAVE THE EFFECT OF MAKING
SURVIVORS WHOLE. SEXUAL ASSAULT
SURVIVORS DESERVE TO BE BELIEVED
TO HAVE THEIR CASES SOLVED TO BE
TREATED WITH COMPASSION AND
PROVIDED THE SERVICES NEEDED TO
ADDRESS TRAUMA AND HARM.
SURVIVORS SHOULD BE EMPOWERED
AND PROVIDED THE PHYSICAL
EMOTIONAL CARE THAT ENCOURAGES.
A HEALTHY RETURN TO LIFE WE
UNDERSTAND THAT ADDING THE
SPECIFIED CRIME. AT TO THE LIST
OF STRIKE AGAINST HIS WILL
IMPACT CREDIT EARNING INSIDE OF
CDCR. THEREBY LIMITING THE
ABILITY TO- RELEASING
DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO SELF
IMPROVEMENT AND REHABILITATION.
REHABILITATION IS PRECISELY THE
OUTCOME WE SHOULD WANT FROM
INCARCERATION OTHERWISE WE'RE
JUST WE'RE HOUSING BODIES. AND
ACCORDING TO THE RECENTLY
RELEASED REPORT FROM CDC.
REHABILITATION IS WHAT IS
HAPPENING. AND I QUOTE HERE THE
CONVICTION RATE FOR SIX REGISTER
AND THIS WAS RELEASED. JUST THIS
WEEK. RELAY TO THOSE. WERE WITH
IN TWO THOUSAND SEVEN TO THAT
EIGHTEEN WAS THE FIRST FULL YEAR
NET PROFIT FIFTY SEVEN WHEN A
EFFECT. THE SUBSEQUENT
CONVICTION FOR SO REGISTER. IS
REGULARLY LEAST FIFTEEN
PERCENTAGE POINTS LOWER THAN THE
RATE FOR NON SIX REGISTRANTS IN
OTHER WORDS. I AM CONTINUING TO
PUT HERE IN OTHER WORDS THE SEX
OFFENDERS CONSISTENTLY RECEIVING
AT LOWER RATES THAN NON SEX
OFFENDERS. IN THE QUOTE IF WE
BELIEVE THAT THE YEARS
INCARCERATION CURRENTLY REQUIRED
FOR A CONVICTION ARE
INSUFFICIENT WE MIGHT CONSIDER
TURNING OUR ATTENTION TO
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE. IN ANY CASE
CALIFORNIA ALREADY LOCKS UP A
HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF ITS PEOPLE
THAN ALMOST ANY DEMOCRACY ON
EARTH. AND WHILE PRISON
OVERCROWDING IS NOT MEET OUR
COMMUNITY SAFER IT DOES RESULT
IN INHUMANE PRISON CONDITIONS
COST TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN LITIGATION FIND HIS
REHABILITATION AND EXPANDS THE
BUDGET AND FOOTPRINT OF THE
PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
FURTHER MONOPOLIZING THESE
RESOURCES- IS NOT THE RIGHT
POLICY APPROACH WE WOULD BE
BETTER SERVED BY INVESTING IN
OUR COMMUNITIES AND INVESTING IN
THE REC REPAIR AND RESTORATION
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS. FOR
THIS REASON WE ASK FOR YOUR
NUMBER. THANK YOU- ARE THERE ANY
OTHER OPPOSITION. WITNESSES HERE
IN THIS ROOM. PLEASE JUST YOUR
NAME YOUR ORGANIZED AND YOU
OPPOSE GOOD MORNING ELEV. GOING
BACK IS FOR LAWMAKERS FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS IN OUR- GOOD MORNING GREG
FELDMAN. JEFF UP. WE HAVE
ANYBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE THAT WILL MOVE TO IT
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS PLEASE JUST
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION YOUR POSITION.
MODERATOR IF YOU HAVE THOSE
NEURONS INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION- WILL BEGIN. TO
PROVIDE SUPPORT AND COMMENTS AND
- REPORT OR ACTIVATE. FOUR S. B.
TWO SIX EIGHT. PLEASE PRESS ONE
BUTTON. ONCE AGAIN TO POWER IN
SUPPORT FOR OF THE- FOR S. TO
SIXTY. PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN.
CAR RIGHT MOMENT PLEASE.
BY THIRTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
FIND THIRTEEN YEAR OLD THANK.
GOOD MORNING AT THANK YOU FOR
HEARING ME COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
AMIT KALE HOLDEN I AM CALLING IN
TO SUPPORT SDKS SIX EIGHT I AM
THE VICTIM OF MILITARY THANK YOU
THE AGENT. THANK YOU. OF COURSE
ONE NINE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. I I
INTO OF SB TWO THREE EIGHT. WELL
THANK YOU. NO CRAP FURTHER
COMMENTS PLEASE GO AHEAD THANK
YOU MODERATOR- NOW THANK YOU TO
ALL THE WITNESSES WILL NOW BRING
THE DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS
TO ANY OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
SENATOR JOE BLOKES IDEAS AND THE
OPPOSITION- BREAD THE SAME WITH
REGARD TO STUDY THAT JUST CAME
OUT WITH- THE WORSE IT IS IT
RECIDIVISM AND RAPIST- DID THAT
STUDY INCLUDE- VIOLENT RAPIST-
WITHIN THAT RESIDENTS ARE OR
JUST RAPISTS IN GENERAL- BECAUSE
I THINK THERE'S- AND I AND I
SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT- AND I'M
GRATEFUL FOR THE IN THE- GIVEN
THAT YOU'RE ADDING ON THEIR-
INTENTION TO DRUG SOMEONE. WITH
THE INTENT TO DRINKING SOME WITH
THE INTENT TO RAPE AB. THAT'S
ALICIA'S TALENT- AND I AND I YOU
KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENT THAT
SAYING SOMEONE. THAT IS. M.
WHAT'S WORD. AGE DIFFERENCE YOU
KNOW IF YOU'RE EIGHTEEN OR
NINETEEN AND YOU YOU KNOW YOU
HAVE SEX WITH A MINOR ATOM.
THAT'S THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT
FROM I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS
WHETHER OR NOT THAT DATA THAT
YOU WERE- THAT. THAT MASON IS
LOCKS YOU CAN COME TO THE
MICROPHONE AND ANSWER THE
QUESTION CAN. THE DATA COMES
FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS AND
REHABILITATION AND IT IS IN
REFERENCE TO FOLKS WHO WERE
RELEASED IN 200-017-2000
EIGHTEEN IT WAS NOT
DISAGGREGATED BASED ON THE KIND
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT OR THE PURPOSE
FOR. HAVING TO REGISTER AS A SEX
OFFENDER THE MY RESPONSE WOULD
BE I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE
THAT A DISTINGUISHED ACROSS
SEXUAL ASSAULT OFFENSES. OKAY
GIVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT
DISTINCTION THAT WE WOULDN'T
KNOW. ON THAT END AND. I'M NOT
GOING TO BE SUPER OF THE OF THE
BILL- ON THAT IN- AND THAT'S NOT
TO SAY I KNOW THINK. THE YOU CAN
HAVE ONE THE OTHER HAS TO BE ONE
OR THE OTHER AS FAR AS WE HAVE A
LOCATION AS WELL AS- ON THAT END
BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE THAT
MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. WOULD
NOT BE COMPELLED TO SEEK THAT
SELF IMPROVEMENT COURSES IN
INTRODUCTORY IF THEY DON'T HIT A
CERTAIN- THRESHOLD OF. ACCORDING
TO COURT HIT BOTTOM- SO I I'M
GONNA BE SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE
YOU FOR BRING IT FOR. BUT I DO
WANT TO EMPHASIZE. THAT IN OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IT
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE
OTHER WE CAN HAVE BOTH
ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL AS HAVING
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO
HAVE THAT SELF IMPROVEMENT IN
TRAJECTORY FOR OPPORTUNITY IN-
IN THE FUTURE FOR HEALING. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR- YOU KNOW
I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL WAITING ON
SOME MEMBERS BUT I DO WANT TO
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S-
COMMITMENT TO TAKING THESE
AMENDMENTS- MORE SPECIFICALLY I
ALSO UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION'S
CONCERNS- REGARDING. YOU KNOW
ADDING MORE PEOPLE TO OUR PRISON
SYSTEM- HOWEVER I THINK THAT
THERE IS A BIG DESIRE OF THIS
COMMITTEE ON A SEXUALLY VIOLENT
CRIMES AS WELL AS- ANY FOR ME
PERSONALLY- ALSO CRIMES AGAINST
CHILDREN AND SO FORTH AND AT A
CERTAIN POINT IN TIME.
ACCOUNTABILITY IS. YOU KNOW- I
ALREADY FOR THE CAN JUST THEM
SAFE AS WELL AS- OF THERE'S A
LOT OF STUDIES ON. SEXUAL
VIOLENCE THAT. CLEARLY SHOW THAT
ON. EIGHT THAT CONTINUES TO
HAPPEN- EVEN IF THEY THEY- HAVE
OTHER OPTIONS AND- SO FORTH SO.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS- AND
IF I CAN HAVE A MOTION I I'D
GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. SO MOVED
BY SENATOR- TO BOTH. WE HAVE A
ROLL CALL SB TWO SIXTY EIGHT.
IMAGE IS THE PAST AS A TO
APPROPRIATE SENATOR WILL HOP ON
HOP I TO ABOUT. TROUBLED BY
BRADFORD. SKINNER WIENER. THE
BILL'S ON CALL. THANK SENATOR.
WELL GROWTH OPPORTUNITY CLOSE SO
. YES GOOD- I JUST WANNA SAY-
ONE THAT YOU'VE FOR I DO WANT TO
SAVE- THIS IS A VOTE OF KERR.
AND SO MANY VICTIMS OF SEX
ASSAULT NOT COME. FIVE FOR FEAR
OF BEING THE- UP FOR. OF
QUESTIONING OR NOT THEY DID
SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE
ACT OF VIOLENCE AND POWER AND
CONTROL AGAINST THEIR BODIES.
AND THAT ALTHOUGH. WE SEE THIS
CRIME HAPPENED OVER AND OVER
AGAIN FROM GENERATION TO
GENERATION. IT'S VERY FEW WHO
ARE ACTUALLY HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN
A COURT OF LAW. AND VERY FEW ARE
ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED AS SEXUAL
PARTICIPER EDITORS OR- UNDER
MEGAN'S LAW OR EVEN UNDER THE A
SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATOR LIST
VERY VERY FEW. BOB AND I LEAVE
YOU WITH THIS SO- I CAN ONLY
SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE MY
PERPETRATOR AB TARGETED ME WHILE
I WAS SLEEPING AS A CHILD AND
WENT ON TO IMPREGNATE HIS
STEPDAUGHTER. SO THIS IS A CRIME
THAT IS A PLAGUE AN EPIDEMIC IN
MANY CULTURES AND WE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA NEED TO PUT A STOP TO
THIS WE ARE LEADERS IN THIS
WORLD. AND WE ARE LEADERS IN THE
WAY THAT WE USE OUR VOICE AND
OUR POWER AS LEGISLATORS THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VOTE AND
I WILL BE MONITORING THE VOTES
FROM YOUR OTHER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THANK YOU. THANK YOU- I
THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY- CAN I GET
A MOTION TO- APPROVE CONSENT
CALENDAR WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER
FOR SB THREE FIFTY NINE- BURKE
ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN SB SEVEN
NINETY NINE TO RAZA. AT THE END
CONSENT CALENDAR BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR MITCHELL BOTH- CAN WE
KALRA FEDERAL HUB NINE I TOLD.
TROUBLED BY BRADFORD SKINNER
WIENER. THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON
CALL. WE WILL BE WAITING FOR
NEXT AUTHOR.
SENATOR BLIX HERE WHEN I YOU'RE
READY THEY KNOW RUSSIA YOU KNOW
BRIEF. WE GOT RA OUR NEXT BILL
SB ONCE BY SENATOR SPEIR CENTER
YOU HAVE A OKAY THANK YOU CAN
MORNING. HAPPY TO BE HERE THANK
YOU FOR WELCOMING ME. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES S. B.
FOR SEVENTEEN MODIFIES EXISTING
SIGNAGE ALREADY REQUIRED IN GUN
STORES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
STATISTICAL RISK BETTER
COMPANIES ACCESS TO A FIRE ALARM
IN THE HOME AS THE ANALYSIS
CONCISELY POINTS OUT WHILE MANY
PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT KEEPING A
FIREARM IN THE HOME MAKES THEM
SAFER. THE DATA SHOWED THE
OPPOSITE IS TRUE A GUN IN THE
HOME IS LINKED TO A NEARLY THREE
TIMES HIGHER LIKELIHOOD BUT A
FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND WILL BE
FATALLY WOUNDED. SB FOUR
SEVENTEEN REASONABLY
INCORPORATES THIS EVIDENCE INTO
THE EXISTING SIGNAGE SO THAT
POTENTIAL PURCHASERS OF A
FIREARM ARE AWARE OF THE RISKS
AND IDEALLY WILL TAKE STEPS TO
SAFELY STORE THEIR FIREARMS
SHOULD THEY GO FORWARD WITH
THEIR PURCHASE. IN THE INTEREST
OF THE COMMITTEES TIME I DON'T
HAVE LEAD WITNESSES HERE TODAY
HOWEVER THIS BILL IS SUPPORTED
BY EVERYTOWN MOMS DEMAND ACTION
AND STUDENTS DEMAND ACTION WHICH
ARE ALL GUN SAFETY GROUPS WITH
THAT I URGE YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK
YOU- WITH NO LEAD WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT- WILL MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN THIS ROOM WE HAVE
ANY WITNESSES IN THIS ROOM. IN
SUPPORT. SO PLEASE JUST STATE
YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT
YOU SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING SHARP
FROM BRADY'S. THANK WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO LEAD OPPOSITION.
VENTURA MEMBERS TEMPERATURES
REPRESENTING GOVERNORS
CALIFORNIA AND- WE'VE HAD A-
INTERPOSITION ON THIS BILL. WE
WANT INFORMED THE COMMITTEE-
MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND
THEIR IN NINE SEPARATE SIGNS
THAT GO UP IN EVERY GUN STORE.
THE THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY GOES
IN AND READS ALL OF THESE SIGNS.
IS NOT REALLY- IT'S NOT REALITY
IT DOES IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN
BUT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD KNOW
THAT THE NATIONAL SHOOTING
SPORTS FOUNDATION HAS ONE OF
THOSE THE ONLY. PROGRAM TO TALK
ABOUT SUICIDE AND AN INVOLUNTARY
THE HOME THAT THEY SHARE WITH
EVERY GUN STORE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THE PROVIDE TRAINING
AND MATERIALS. TO ALL ALL PEOPLE
THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE IN THE
GUN BUSINESS HOW DO I KNOW I AM
A LICENSED GUN DEALER HERE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND-
THAT INFORMATION IS EXTREMELY
VALUABLE I CAN TELL YOU SINCE
NINETEEN EIGHTY ONE I HAVEN'T
SINCE I'VE HAD A LICENSE. THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
LOOKED UP AND READ THOSE SIGNS.
IS SO- JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE
THAT. AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS
IS A WHOLE LOT OF WORK IN A LOT
OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GOING
TO HAVE ZERO DON'T KNOW IMPACT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES SAYING NOT ALL MOVED
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM. SAYING NINE WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO HEARING WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION MODERATOR IF YOU'D
PLEASE PROMPT INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY WE WILL BEGIN
. TO PROVIDE COMMENT AND FOR OUR
APPLICATION PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
SEVEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. LINE
EIGHT PLEASE CALL. HELLO MY NAME
IS AND HARDWARE. I'M A VOLUNTEER
WITH MY DEMAND ACTION GUN IN. WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB FOUR ONCE
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENT THANK YOU AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO ALL
OUR SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WILL NOW BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS TO
ANY OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE WE SKIP
THAT PART. OKAY ARE YOU LEAD
OPPOSITION OR JUST IN OPPOSITION
. YES GOOD. MY NAME IS SUSAN ARE
NOT WITH THE TO LIFE LEAGUE AND
WE ARE IN OFFICE. THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS HAKOBYAN AND ON BEHALF
OF TULARE COALITION FOR FREEDOM.
STAND UP SACRAMENTO AND ALSO- A
MASKED KILLER COUNTY WE ARE IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. SO WILL
NOW BRING THE CONVERSATION BACK
TO MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS
COMMENTS CONCERNS SENATOR JILL
VOGEL. SO IT'S IN A- I HAVE NO
WITH THAT I YOU KNOW WAS OF AN A
MY- OUT FOR THE FENTANYL BUT-
THAT WAS. JUST BROUGHT UP A
COUPLE OF LOS RECOURSE. AGO- THE
ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU THE
CONCERN THAT I HAVE HERE- I. E.
I CAN SEE THE ADDAMS. THE
DENTURES MAYBE INCREASES THE OF
DEATH- OF TELLING THEM OR EIGHT
IT WITHIN THAT WITHIN WITHIN THE
SCOPE BUT- I'M A LITTLE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPLICATION
BY ADDING THE WORD SUICIDE
BECAUSE- I HAVE A GUN IN THE
HOME I'M NOT SURE THAT. THE
INCREASE SUICIDE OF SOMEONE TO
SUICIDE THEY'RE GOING TO FIND
THE MEANS TO DO THAT. I DON'T
NOT SURE THAT. GUNS INCREASE THE
RISK OF SUICIDE WHICH IS HEREBY
MENTAL HEALTH IT'S BY MAY WITH
IT'S A MEANS BY WHICH IT HAPPENS
BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS.
EIGHT EIGHT. EIGHT CALLS FOR
SUICIDE- THAT CAN ASSIST
RESIDENTS SERVICE COULD BE
CURIOUS LIKE YOU WHY- I'M- WITH
FINE WITH THE REST OF THE ADVICE
AND BUT THE SUICIDE IS HI I HAVE
. CONCERNS WILL BE THANK YOU FOR
THAT QUESTION SO STATISTICALLY
ACTUALLY SUICIDE RATES ARE MUCH
HIGHER WHEN THERE'S ACCESS TO A
GUN AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS
THAT- IT CAN. SOMEBODY WHO IS
FEELING SUICIDAL ON IMPULSE CAN
ACTUALLY SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISH
IT. SO THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF
SUICIDE THAT REQUIRE A MUCH
LONGER PREPARATION PERIOD AND
SOMEBODY WHO IS AND- MOMENTARY
PIT OF DESPAIR WHO USES A GUN.
IS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE LIKELY TO
IN FACT KILL THEMSELVES TO FOR
IT TO BE FATAL SO SUICIDE IS A
MAJOR RISK OF HAVING. A GUN- AND
SO THAT WHY IT'S INCLUDED ALSO
PART OF THE THIS. IS INCLUDES A
SUICIDE PREVENTION LIFELINE
PHONE NUMBER SO IS THE SAME
THING THAT IS POSTED. ADJACENT
TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS SO THAT
PEOPLE DON'T JUMP IN FRONT OF A
TRAIN OR ON A ALL THE TALL
BRIDGE THAT THEY DON'T JUMP OFF
THE BRIDGE. SO IT IS FOR PEOPLE
WHO MIGHT BE IN THAT POSITION OF
WANTING TO TAKE THAT ACTION THAT
THEY WOULD. HAVE ACCESS TO A
CRISIS HELPLINE RIGHT AWAY. OKAY
AND THIS IS AT THE- ADVISEMENT
WHERE THEY PURCHASED THE GUN
WHERE THEY HAVE TO WAIT TEN DAYS
BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY. RECEIVE
THE GUN. I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE
DETAILS OF HOW MANY DAYS ONE
NEEDS TO WAIT IN EACH TYPE OF
GUN STORE- I THINK IT'S A PRETTY
STANDARD. IF WE HAVE A WITNESS
SAID IT WOULD NOT ACROSS I'M
JUST A CURIOUS BECAUSE IT WOULD
HE GAVE A THUMBS UP THAT'S
THAT'S SUFFICIENT- NEXT QUESTION
. SO SHE SHE'S EFFICIENT. AND SO
JUST FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS IS
A DEVICE MEANT TO PREVENT YOU
KNOW JUST THE PEOPLE THERE
WHERE- WITH THE INTENT TO SERVE
PROTECT PEOPLE THAT FROM
COMMITTED SUICIDE. BUT AT THE
PURCHASE POINTS. THEY HAVE TO
WAIT TEN DAYS ON THAT IT DOES
NOT CHANGE AT ALL YOUR
PERSPECTIVE ON THE ADDING THE
WORD SUICIDE ON THEIR- NO
BECAUSE SUICIDE THE- I THINK THE
OF THE VIOLENCE THAT COMES FROM
SUICIDE. IS ONE OF THE MAIN
PROBLEMS WITH EASY ACCESS TO
FIREARMS OF PEOPLE'S SOMETIMES
BY MORE THAN ONE FIREARMS THEY
MIGHT ALREADY HAVE A FIREARM IN
THE HOME AND THEN THERE. AT THE
STORE BUYING ANOTHER ONE- AND SO
THEY WOULD SEE THIS HOTLINE- AND
I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT
WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE
AT ALL STEPS IF THEY ARE FEELING
SUICIDAL. ALSO SO INCLUDING
SUICIDE. AS A WORD AND INCLUDING
THE PHONE NUMBER IS REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR THIS. RELATIVELY
SHORT ONE SENTENCE- WARNING.
CORRECT WHAT I JUST READ FOR THE
RECORD STATE MIGHT MAKE THIS
WITH THAT PARTY. WORD ON THEIR I
WILL BE SUPPORTING- EUROPE YOUR
BILL OKAY WELL THANK YOU THANK
YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT
PART. THANK YOU- I WILL SAY- IF
YOU EVER AT LEAST IN MY DISTRICT
WHEN YOU GO INTO A GUN STORE AND
SHOOTING RANGE- THEY ACTUALLY
DON'T ALLOW YOU TO- HAVE FUN AND
SHOOT A GUN- WITHOUT SOMEBODY
WITH YOU. SEE IF YOU HAVE A
COMMON IN TWOS IN FACT RATE. AND
I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THIS- THE
SHOOTING RANGE INDIVIDUALS THAT
WERE WORKING THERE WHY IS THAT
THE CASE AND THEY HAVE STATED
THAT- INTO THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS
THAT COME IN AND COMMIT SUICIDE-
THEY DON'T HAVE. IT ALL THROUGH
THE COME IN AND- BORROWED A GUN
IF YOU WILL SO- AND I
APPRECIATE. THIS AND SENATOR DO
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS
OR SENATOR SKINNER. BOB MOVE THE
BILL AND- ACTUALLY- WANTED TO
JUST RELATE TO REINFORCE WHAT
THE AUTHOR. THE THERE'S NUMEROUS
STUDIES THAT. THE CHAU. A
COMPLETE QUARTERLY. BETWEEN A
MUCH SU. RISK IN THE OWNERSHIP.
OF A HANDGUN OR THE PRESENCE OF
A GUN IN THE HOME. THANK YOU
SENATOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
THANK YOU. THIS BILL HAS BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR SKINNER. SB
FOUR SEVENTEEN MOTIONS TO PASS
TO THE FLOOR SENATOR WILL HOP ON
FIVE OWE TO ABOUT TWO ABOUT AYE
BRADFORD. SKINNER INNER I. THANK
YOU THE BILL IS ON CALL- WE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO AN- SENATE BILL
FOUR FIFTY TWO SENATOR BLAKE
BEER- YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. WELL
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES- I APPRECIATE BEING
ABLE TO BE HERE FOR THE SECOND
BILL. SO FIRST OFF I AM
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
CONTAINED IN THE COMMITTEE'S
ANALYSIS AND I THANK THE
COMMITTEE COUNSELS WORK AND
IMPROVING THE BILL AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO FURTHER REFINEMENTS
SHOULD SB FIVE FOUR FIFTY TO BE
APPROVED TODAY. SO SB FOUR FIFTY
TWO PROHIBITS THE SALE OR
TRANSFER OF A SEMI AUTOMATIC
PISTOL MADE AFTER JULY TWENTY
TWENTY SEVEN. UNLESS IT HAS BEEN
VERIFIED AS A MICRO STAMPING
ENABLE PISTOL. HAS THE MAJORITY
OF HOMICIDES REMAIN UNSOLVED
MICRO STAFFING WILL ALLOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO MORE EFFECTIVELY
IDENTIFY AND TRACE CRIME GUNS
THROUGH INTENTIONAL MARKINGS.
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE
PASSED MICRO STAMPING
REQUIREMENTS IN TWO THOUSAND
SEVEN BUT THE FIREARM INDUSTRY
HAS BEEN RETICENT TO EMBRACE
THIS. SB FOUR FIFTY TWO INSURERS
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS INCORPORATED
INTO GUNS MANUFACTURED ON OR
AFTER JULY TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN.
SO THIS BILL IS COSPONSORED BY
OUR GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM AND
WITH ME IN SUPPORT TODAY I ALSO
HAVE TANYA SHORT WITH BRADY AND
CLAIRE ASCENSION ON WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION- AND SO. THEY ARE
HERE TODAY RIGHT HERE THANK YOU-
I WILL ASK ALL WITNESSES TO GET
READY TO TESTIFY WE WILL MOVE
QUICKLY YOU ARE TIME YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES FOR- LEAD SUPPORT
WHEN ASSIST. RIGHT HERE. YOUR
TIME HAS BEGUN. GOOD MORNING MY
NAME IS TONY STARK NAME SENIOR
COUNSEL DIRECTOR SEEING FEDERAL
POLICY THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOUR FIVE TALE.
MICROSCOPIC TECHNOLOGY UTILIZES
LASERS TO ENGRAVE MARKINGS ON
THE FIRING PINS. INGREDIENTS
INCLUDE SPECIFIC IDENTIFYING
INFORMATION ABOUT THE GUN MUCH
LIKE A SERIAL NUMBER WHEN THE
GUN IS FIRED THESE MARKINGS ARE
STAMPED ON THE CARTRIDGE. THE
CARD IS RECOVERED AT A CRIME
SCENE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS ACCESS
TO MAKE MODEL OR OTHER
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT
THE GUN. IN TWO THOUSAND SEVEN
CALIFORNIA MADE A FORWARD
THINKING DECISION TO INVEST IN
MY PERCENT BEING. A TOOL THAT IF
IMPLEMENTED WOULD INCREASE
COMMUNITY TRUST IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT BY ALLOWING THEM TO
RELY ON SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT
INFRINGE ON PRIVACY RIGHTS. AND
OBJECT PROVIDES OBJECTIVE DATA
FOR EVIDENCE AS OPPOSED TO MORE
BIASED ALTERNATIVES IMPORTANTLY
THIS INCREDIBLE TOOLS AVAILABLE
REASONABLE RELIABLE FEASIBLE AND
INEXPENSIVE. AND IT WILL MAKE A
STAMPING HAS BEEN A LOT OF
CALIFORNIA FOR SOME TIME IN THE
INDUSTRY HAS ADMITTED THAT THEY
CAN'T DO IT. THE INDUSTRY HAS
SOCIALLY BOYCOTTED THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP OF THE
TECHNOLOGY IN CALIFORNIA.
PERHAPS THEY DO NOT HAVE AN
INTEREST IN ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT
OR PERHAPS PERHAPS THEY DO NOT
HAVE AN INTEREST IN PREVENTING
CRIMES OR PERHAPS THEY DON'T
WANT TRANSPARENCY REGARDING THE
SOURCE OF CRIME GUNS. ABORTION
WITHOUT THIS TOOL THE MOST
SHOOTINGS GO UNSOLVED
ENCOURAGING CYCLES OF
RETALIATORY VIOLENCE AND
DISTRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THIS IS EVEN MORE TRUE
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR A YEAR LONG
INVESTIGATION BASED ON DATA
OBTAINED FROM TWENTY TWO CITIES.
SO THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
CLEARANCE RATES FOR CRIMES THAT
WHEN THEY INVOLVED A VICTIM OF
COLOR WAS ONLY 25% OFF. 25% FOR
FIRE MARSHALS. VERSUS 35% FOR
WHITE VICTIMS. SB FOUR FIVE TWO
IS AN INNOVATIVE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT WILL WORK TO
ENSURE MICROCENTER GUNS ARE
FINALLY INTRODUCED INTO
CALIFORNIA. THE BILL WILL DO SO
BY CREATING THREE PATHWAYS FOR
THE TECHNOLOGY TO BE
INCORPORATED. FOR GUN
MANUFACTURERS STATE LICENSE
VENDORS AND APART CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. LONG TERM
THIS WILL HELP STATE AND LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT SOLVE CRIMES. IT
WILL BREAK CYCLES OF GUN
TRAFFICKING AND INCREASE TRUST
IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. LONG TERM
THIS WILL REDUCE. GUN VIOLENCE
IN CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU SO MUCH
CENTER LAKES PAYER. GAVIN
NEWSOM. FOR THE GOVERNOR SOME
FOR THE STRONG LEADERSHIP ON
THIS BILL INTO COMMITTEE I URGE
. YOU TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THE
SPELL THANK YOU. THANK Q. NEXT.
FOR YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS CLARISSA. I
LIVE IN THE- AREA. MY SON COULD
BE LOW MY ONLY CHILD WAS KILLED
IN TWO THOUSAND AND FOURTEEN.
KAMALA HAD JUST COMPLETED
PARAMEDIC SCHOOL AND WITHOUT
CELEBRATING. THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT
AND HIS UPCOMING BIRTHDAY. HIS
LIFE IN HIS BRIGHT FUTURE WAS.
WERE ENDED BY A BULLET AS I WAS
THROWN INTO THIS NEW LIFE
CARRYING THIS UNBEARABLE GRIEF I
WAS TO FIND OUT THAT IN SOME
RESPECTS I WAS LUCKY. THE PERSON
KILLED KAMALA SUPPER HANDED
WHICH PROVIDED SOME ANSWERS. HE
WAS A STRANGER HE DIDN'T KNOW
OUR TARGET MY SON. HE SENSIBLY
FIRED HIS GUN INTO A CROWD.
KNOWING THIS PROVIDED SOME
RELIEF IN THE UNBEARABLE PAIN. A
MOTHER NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED. FINN'S CAMILLUS DATA.
I HAVE LEFT MY WORK AS A NURSE
PRACTITIONER AND STARTED TO
VOLUNTEER AS A CALIFORNIA
SURVIVOR LEAD. WITH EVERYTOWN
AND MOMS DEMAND ACTION. I'VE MET
COUNTLESS PEOPLE AFFECTED BY GUN
VIOLENCE OVER THESE YEARS. THOSE
THAT BREAK MY HEART THE MOST BUT
AT THE SAME TIME STRENGTHENED MY
RESOLVE TO SPEAK OUT OF THE
COUNTLESS MOMS WHOSE CHILDREN
ARE TAKEN BY GUN VIOLENCE. AND
THAT'S WHY I SAY I WAS LUCKY
BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THESE
MOMS DON'T KNOW WHO KILLED THEIR
CHILD. THE CRIME IS UNSOLVED AND
REMAINS UNSOLVED AS THE YEARS GO
BY. AND THESE MOMS CONSTANTLY
WONDER WHO KILLED THEIR CHILD
WHILE I WAS A CHILD KILLED. SO
MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT
PREVENT THEM FROM EVER FINDING
PEACE. THEY WONDER IF THEIR
KILLERS THE CHILD'S KILLER
PASSES THEM ON THE STREET OR IN
THE STORE. HAVE THEY GONE ON TO
KILL OTHERS THIS IS A HEAVY
BURDEN TO HAVE YOUR CHILD KILLED
BY SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE. MADE
HEAVIER BY NEVER RECEIVING ANY
ANSWERS A JUSTICE. THIS IS WHY
I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF S.
B. FOUR FIVE TWO. THE MICRO
STEPPING BILL WHICH WILL HELP
SOLVE MORE GUN CRIMES AND ALSO
PLAY A ROLE IN PREVENTION THANK
YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU TO
EVERYBODY- WE'RE GONNA ASK AGAIN
WITNESSES BOTH IN SUPPORT AND.
OPPOSITION GET LINED UP RIGHT
NOW WE'RE TAKING SUPPORT WHEN.
STATE NAME OR- AND FOR GOOD
MORNING KELLY HAD ON THE- OF
TOWN FOR GUN SAFETY. OF IN YOU
THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES. SAYING NONE
WILL MOVE TO LEAD OPPOSITION YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES. TIME IS BEGUN.
GOOD MORNING BREAKFAST WITH THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE PISTOL
ASSOCIATION WE STAND OPPOSED TO
SP FOUR FIFTY TWO RECENTLY IN
THE BALEN V. BONTA. A COURT CASE
THE JUDGE FOUND. THAT THE ENTIRE
ROSTER ISSUE WAS NOT APPLICABLE
AS WELL AS SPECIFICALLY THE
MICRO STAMPING. IS PROVIDED
ACCORDING TO THE JUDGE LESS SAFE
HAND GUNS AVAILABLE IN
CALIFORNIA TO PREVENT MANY OF
THE ISSUES THAT IS BEING
DISCUSSED. MICHAEL STAMPING
WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED ANY OF
THE TRAGEDIES OF THE PAST AND
THAT'S IN PART TO UNDERSTAND A
COUPLE THINGS TO. IF THIS
TECHNOLOGY ACTUALLY EXISTED AND
WAS IN ROUTE RANGE. AFTER RANGE
WHEN YOU FIRE THOSE CASINGS FROM
THE GROUND MANY TIMES PEOPLE
RANGE STAFF OTHERS PICK UP THE
CASE SINCE YOU'VE USED. THOSE
COULD BE USED IN A CRIME SCENE
TO FALSELY IMPLICATE SOMEBODY SO
THIS IS NOT NO PUN INTENDED A
BILL APPROVED MEASURE TO FIND
OUT WHO ACTUALLY FIRED A WEAPON.
WHO ACTUALLY HURT SOMEBODY OR
DID- BODILY HARMS. THIS SAY
FROST- AND MICROSTRIP INITIATE
HAS DONE NOTHING TO MAKE US
SAFER. IN FACT THIS MADE US LESS
SAFE BECAUSE MANY OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE TO. THE
REST OF THE FORTY NINE STATES
ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO
CALIFORNIA'S WE STAND OPPOSED.
THANK YOU NEXT. LEAD OPPOSITION
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. I WILL
TAKE MY TO MANAGE SAM. FOR GUN
OWNERS CAL. ON THAT MICHAEL
STAMPING DOES NOT A- IN THE
MARKETPLACE RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE
THE INVENTOR HAS ABANDONED THE
TECHNOLOGY. HAS IT NOT BEEN
CLOSE READY. FOR USE. ALL OF THE
STUDIES CITED WE HAVE BEEN
DEBUNKED. AS UNRELIABLE AND NOT
COMPLETE SO THE SECURITY OF
MICRO STABBING JUST DOESN'T
EXIST. THE COMMENTARY THAT IT IS
AN INEXPENSIVE TECHNOLOGY. SHOWS
THE DRAMATIC LACK OF
UNDERSTANDING ON HOW FIREARMS
ARE MADE. AND HOW THEY HAVE TO
GUARANTEED THAT HE PARTICULAR
FIRING TEN HAS TO BE MATCHED UP
WITH THE PARTICULAR FRAME. AND
IF THEY MESS UP THAT MANUFACTURE
STANDS UP. EXTENDS A HUGE
LIABILITY UPON THEMSELVES. BUT
LAW ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T WANT
THIS. ARE THESE THE SIMPSONS THE
FEDERAL COURTS HAVE DECLARED
THAT MY CONSTABULARIES
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND IN FACT
THIS BILL WILL MEAN THAT IF GUNS
DO NOT HAVE MICHAEL STAMPING
THAT THEY WILL IN ESSENCE BE
BANNED IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. NEW YORK STATE RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION PERSONS
BERMAN AS WELL AS HELLER
MCDONALD. AND BOY- TENKAI TUNNEL
SAID THAT. ANYTHING THE BAND'S A
GUN. THAT IS IN COMMON USE FOR
LAWFUL PURPOSES. MAKES IT
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THEN THE IT
THE BURDEN IS ON THE GOVERNMENT
TO PROVE THAT THERE IS A
HISTORICAL ANALOGUE FOR
REQUIRING MICRO STEPPING BACK TO
SEVENTEEN NINETY ONE AND IF IT
DIDN'T EXIST. IT'S
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I THINK WHAT
YOU MIGHT. THAT IS THE LAW THAT
IS THE LAW OF THE LAND. WE WILL
PROCEED AND PROBABLY END UP IN
COURT AND BY THE WAY RIGHT NOW
WE'RE BATTING A THOUSAND IN
COURT WE'RE WINNING EVERY CASE
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. THANK
YOU. ARE WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
OPPOSITION- WITNESSES THAT JUST
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND
REQUEST REGIONAL DIRECTOR THAN
ARE A ALSO YOUR FURNACES SEVEN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. VEHICLE
VAN HAVE REPRESENTING TULARE
COUNTY COALITION FOR FREEDOM
BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY AND UNMASKS
VERY COUNTY. WE STAND IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NO OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU'D PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WILL BEGIN. TO
PROVIDE COMMENT IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
ZERO. LINE. TWENTY NINE. PLEASE
GO AHEAD LINE TWENTY NINE. GOOD
MORNING I'M FEELING RECALL YOU
WANT MORE OF THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION THE
NRA GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA AND
GUN OWNERS OPENERS CALIFORNIA.
AND I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO S.
B. FOUR FIFTY TWO THANK YOU.
FIND SIXTEEN PLAYED FOR HER.
FIND SIXTY YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
DEAR ME. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION WHETHER OR NOT YOU
SUPPORTER OPPOSE. OKAY SPEAKING
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OR COUNTY
WILDLIFE FEDERATION IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. FOR
FIFTY TWO. TWENTY ELEVEN.
VENTURES TO MAKE FAN I'M NOT
SURE OF THE SOUTH SACRAMENTO
CHAPTER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION AND THE
CANNERY MEMBER IN STRONG
OPPOSITION. BY. TWENTY FIVE. HI
GOOD MORNING- MY NAME IS DURING
BUT WELL I'M A MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND THE GOVERNOR OF
CALIFORNIA AND I'M CALLING IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE SP FOUR
FIFTY TWO THANK YOU. I. TWENTY
SIX. GOOD MORNING THIS IS
CARLENE ELLIS ONE MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION THE OWNERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND A MEMBER OF THE
NRA IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO FOUR
FIFTY TWO THANK YOU. FIVE
THIRTY. MY NAME IS A LEASE COMES
MACKENZIE A OF COMPLEMENT OF
AMERICANS AND OUR AGE AND- I
STRONGLY AT BEFORE FIFTY TWO
THANK YOU. FIND TWO. HI MY NAME
IS RAY HI ELEVEN HOLES WERE CAL
. I AM VERY TO THE MIKE STAFFING
REQUIRED BECAUSE THEY YOU IT CAN
BE IF YOU DIDN'T. NINE THIRTY
THREE. OKAY GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS PAT HEARD AND I AM THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE TEAM A COUNTY
GUN OWNERS CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RECKLESS ASSOCIATION
I'M ALSO RETIRED SERGEANT
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL. AND I
AM IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO S. B.
FOUR FIFTY TWO THANK YOU. ONE
THIRTY FIVE. WHAT GAIL THE
NUMBER OF CALIFORNIA EARTHQUAKE
HITS FOR. YEAH WAY AND ANOTHER
SEVEN. AND I'M FIRMLY OF TO THE
BILL. WHAT BRYANT. EIGHT GOOD
MORNING THIS IS MIKE- AND THE
COUNTY ON THE MAP OF THE VENTURE
COUNTY NOT ONLY CHAPTER OF THE
FEEL PA AND THEN ALREADY NUMBER
. AND EVERY. BROWN- OWNER I
OPPOSE SB FOUR TO THANK YOU.
BRIAN EIGHT. YEAH THE HARD WORK
OF A TO MOM THAT'S FOR GUN SENSE
IN. WE CALL IT TO COURT SB FOUR
FIVE THANK YOU.
Q. AT THIS TIME THANK YOU WE'RE
GOING TO RETURN THE DISCUSSION
BACK TO OUR MEMBERS WHO HAVE
QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR CONCERNS
SENATOR. WIENER UNIVERSITY ONE
SENATOR ROACH ABOUT SENATOR
WIENER LET'S LET'S DO THIS.
FIRST I MOVE THE BILL- ONE THING
THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD BISON MAKE ONE CALL
COMMENT BEFORE WAS THAT I WAS
LISTENING TO THE TEST. ON ON TV
A WAS A COMMENT ABOUT HOW-
BECAUSE MY IN WAS BEING DONE
REQUIREMENTS NINETY ONE- THAT
THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T REQUIRE
IF NOT TODAY DIED IS A DEEPLY
RADICAL AND DANGEROUS- ARGUMENT
NOT JUST AROUND GUN SAFETY VOTER
ON SO MANY THINGS NEED TO BE
CLEAR OLD. AND SEVENTEEN NINETY
ONE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WERE
ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY
DECISION MAKING WERE WHITE MEN
WHO OWN PROPERTY AND TO SUGGEST
THAT IN TWENTY TWENTY THREE- WE
SHOULD BE BALANCED BY- POLICY
THAT WAS CREATED HUNDREDS OF
YEARS AGO BY ONLY BY. WHITE MEN
WHO OWNED PROPERTY- I THINK IT'S
JUST ABSURD AND IS EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN
SOME BAD SUPREME COURT RULINGS
BUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE
SUPREME COURT IS A PRECEDENT
DOESN'T MATTER- AND SO WITH THE
SUPREME COURT HAS DECIDED TO
COMPLETELY UP AND THEN INJECT
CHAOS INTO THE ENTIRETY OF LAW.
THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO IS MAKE THE
BEST POLICY DECISIONS POSSIBLE
AND THIS IS A VERY VERY GOOD
POLICY AND I SUPPORT IT. THANK
YOU SENATOR TO BOTH. SO I GET
THE GIST OF THE INTENT OF THE
BILL WITH THE MARKET. MIKE ON ON
. WITH IN ORDER TO. BASICALLY
KNOW WHERE A BULLET COMES FROM
AND SO FORTH SOME I'M I'M FOODS
. EDUCATION PURPOSES MICROSEMI
IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BULLET
OR ON THE CASING BECAUSE I THINK
THEY MADE A VALID POINT AS FAR
AS CHANGING THE CASINGS AROUND.
WELL IT TIES TO THE GUN TO THE
BULLET. SO IT AND IT ALLOWS LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO SOLVE CRIMES MORE
EFFECTIVELY WE COULD ASK ONE OF
THE LEAD WITNESSES TO ANSWER
THIS IF YOU'D LIKE. OR THE
MICROSOFT WILL BE ON THE CASING
WHICH WILL BE LESS TIME BEHIND
AT THE CRIME SCENE IT'S AN EDP
IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF
EVIDENCE THAT'S MOST OFTEN LEFT
BEHIND THE CRIME SCENE. THOSE
CASINGS ARE ALREADY USED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO SOLVE CRIMES THEY
ALREADY USE BALLISTICS
TECHNOLOGY WHICH UNFORTUNATELY
IS ONLY SUCCESSFUL ONE POINT 5%
OF THE TIME. MICROSEMI
TECHNOLOGY'S GOING TO BE
SUCCESSFUL BUT 90% OF THE TIME
SO I MEAN IF WE'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT PEOPLE DROPPING CASINGS AT
LOOK AT CRIME SCENES WE SHOULD
BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT NOW AND
IT'S SIMPLY NOT HAPPENING SO
THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MORE IN
THE FUTURE WITH MICROSOFT
TECHNOLOGY. SO THE OTHER
QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU BECAUSE
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT THERE IS
DOCTORS- IN ANY DEAL THE MATTER
WHAT THE LOSS IN THE CAN SIMPLY.
LAWS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. SO
MY QUESTION IS MICROSEMI IN. NO
PUN INTENDED BILL APPROVED A
SAID. CAN IT BE TEN. WITH IN
ORDER TO- BASICALLY. MAKE IT SO
THAT IT'S NOT LEGIBLE OR NOT
IDENTIFIABLE. IT CAN BE JUST
LIKE A FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER CAN
BE REMOVED OR TRY TO BE REMOVED
FROM THE FRAME AND FOR RECEIVER
THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO
TRY TO ENGAGE IN THIS ACTIVITY.
THIS CRIMINALIZES UPBEAT
BEHAVIOR IN THE BILL ITSELF- BUT
EVEN IF HALF THE TIME. THEY'RE
NOT DOING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO
RECOVER THE CASINGS ALONG
FORSMAN DOES HAVE THIS A TOOL.
IMMEDIATELY TO BE ABLE TO TRACE
THAT FIREARM. THAT'S HUGE YOU
KNOW AGAIN NO BILL IS PERFECT NO
LAWS PERFECT NO TOOL IS PERFECT
BUT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE
TO SOLVE CRIMES. THE OTHER
QUESTION I HAVE IS- IT HAS TO DO
WITH. I UNDERSTAND IT'S AS YOUR
REQUIRES AFTER JULY FIRST TWENTY
TWO IS. TWENTY SEVEN- IT SHE'LL
UNLAWFUL SHOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR
A FIREARMS DEALER. LICENSES
AVAILABLE A LOT IN IN TRANSFER.
MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE
FACT HOW DOES THAT. APPLY TO
GUNS BENE- MANUFACTURED- AT A
STATE AND BROUGHT IN TO FOR SO
HOW DOES THAT. INNER I GUESS
INTERSTATE COMMERCE. DR KIM
INTO. THIS BILL PROJECT SHARES
OF THE BILL ACTUALLY CREATES
THREE PATHWAYS FOR THE DEALER TO
GET THE GUN MICROCENTER FOR
TRANSFERRING IT. SO IT CAN BE
THE THREE MANUFACTURERS WHICH
WOULD BE FANTASTIC- BUT WE HAVE
TO ALTERNATIVE SO IF THE
MANUFACTURER DOESN'T ACTUALLY
MAKE. INSTALL THE MENU FOR THE
MICROCHIP TECHNOLOGY INTO THE
GUN. BEFORE THEY STARTED TO
DEALER THE DEALER CAN GO TO CAL
DOJ FOR TO LICENSE VENDOR IN THE
STATE TO GET THE GUNS ARE LESS
OF YOUR RESPECTIVE AWARE THE GUN
COMES FROM. THERE'S THREE
PATHWAYS TO ENSURE THAT GUNS CAN
GET MICROSOFT. THIS ALSO MEANS
THAT GUNS WILL ALWAYS BE
AVAILABLE FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA
THAT'S WHY WE CREATE THREE
PATHWAYS TO ENSURE THAT THERE
IS. THE ABILITY FOR DEALERS TO
GET THESE GUNS- CORPORATE THEY
TO GET MY PERCENT TECHNOLOGY
INCORPORATED INTO HANDGUNS. OKAY
AND THE LAST QUESTION THAT I
HAVE AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE
AUTHOR WOULD LIKE TO ANDERSON.
CANCER AT PORT THE LEAD WITNESS
BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE- THE
AT. I GUESS THE STATEMENT OR. OR
PURVIEW AT THE END ACCOUNT OF.
REVIEW DIFFERENCE. FIREARMS
EXAMINER SHOULD. IN EVEN THE-
DAVIS. STUDY ALL REACHED THE
CONCLUSION THAT THERE IS NO
MICROSCOPIC TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE
THAT WILL. RELIABLY CONSISTENTLY
AND LEGIBLY WORK OR THAT IS
FEASIBLE ON A MASS PRODUCTION
SCALE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S
ACCURATE AND I'M HAPPY TO
PROVIDE YOU PARA STUDIES THAT
SUGGEST OTHERWISE. OKAY SO
YOU'RE SAYING HE SAID THIS THE
STATEMENT IS I DON'T BELIEVE I
WHAT I WILL SAY IS LIKE WE
CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY
MICROCENTER GUNS ON THE MARKET
THAT'S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT
WHICH IS WHY WE'RE USING THIS
PATHWAY- BUT MICROSCOPIC ITSELF.
IS FEASIBLE IT IS RELIABLE THERE
ARE PEER REVIEW STUDIES SHOW
THAT'S RELIABLE OTHER STATES
HAVE PASSED THIS THIS LAW NOW-
SO IT'S PAST TIME FOR CALIFORNIA
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH US BUT I'M-
ALSO HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH
THE DATA THAT I'M FIRED. WE
HAVE. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN MY
NOTES THANK YOU THANK YOU AND
SENATOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
BY YES JUST AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL
THIS IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY
THIS BILL WILL ALLOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO SOLVE CRIMES
BECAUSE- IT CONNECTS THE FIREARM
TO THE BULLET AND THE CASING
THAT WERE USED IN A CRIME. AND I
URGE IN EITHER. THANK YOU- WITH
THIS BILL HAS BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR WIENER CAN WE. CALL
WRONG. SORRY S. FOUR FIFTY TWO
MOTIONS TO PASS A AMENDED TO.
SENATOR WILL HI BOB I- OWE TO
ABOUT. BRADFORD SKINNER. HI
SKINNER AYE WIENER I WIENER AYE
. THE BILLS ON. THANK YOU CENTER
- ANNOUNCE MOVE ON TO- SENATE
BILL OH FOUR SENATOR DAHLE. GET
MORE. GOOD MORNING MEMBERS- FOR
MY TIME IN FRONT OF THE SAFETY
SINCE I'VE BEEN IN LARGEST SO. I
HAVE A COMMENTS BILL HERE WITH
ME TODAY AS EIGHT OH FOUR. ONE
FOUR IN THE LEAGUE SYSTEM BE
GIVEN TOOLS- TO PROPERLY SERVE
OUR COMMUNITIES. LAW ENFORCEMENT
CIVILIANS ARE BECOMING MORE
FREQUENTLY USED THIS BILL WOULD
AUTHORIZE FULLY TRAINED LAW
ENFORCEMENT CIVILIANS TO PERFORM
HEARSAY TESTIMONY AT THE
PRELIMINARY HEARING HEARINGS.
THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST
FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE. THAT MUST
HAVE UNDERGONE THE SAME HEARSAY
TESTIMONY TRAINING THAT SWORN
OFFICERS DO THIS TRAINING IS THE
SAME. POST TRAINING THAT SWORN
OFFICERS MUST COMPETE COMPLETE.
CURRENTLY ONLY SWORN OFFICERS
CAN PERFORM HEARSAY TESTIMONY.
IF LAW ENFORCEMENT CIVILIANS ARE
CALLED TO COURT SWORN OFFICERS
MUST RE INTERVIEW ALL VICTIMS
AND THOSE VICTIMS MUST BE CALLED
TO COURT TO TESTIFY THEMSELVES.
ALLOWING LAW ENFORCEMENT
CIVILIANS TO PERFORM HEARSAY
TESTIMONY WILL STREAMLINE THE
PROCESS AND WILL LIGHTEN THE
LOAD ON ALREADY STRAINED POLICE
FORCE THIS BILL IS GOOD FOR
VICTIMS. IT WILL IT WOULD AS IT
WOULD ENABLE THEM TO AVOID
APPEARING IN COURT AT. HAND IT
IS GOOD FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AS IT WOULD FREE UP ALREADY
LIMITED RESOURCES NOT REQUIRED
SWORN OFFICERS TO BE THE ONES
PERFORMING THE HEARSAY TESTIMONY
OF THIS BILL IS BROUGHT TO ME.
TO ME BY- IS IT OUT OF MY
DISTRICT I HAVE WITH ME TODAY.
THE POLICE CHIEF OF READING
BILLS SCHULLER TO TESTIFY. THANK
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
GOOD MORNING SENATORS MY NAME'S
BILL SURE MISS FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR OVER
TWENTY NINE YEARS CURRENTLY
SERVING AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE
FOR THE CITY OF REDDING- JUNE
FIFTH NINETEEN NINETY THE
MAJORITY OF CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA VOTERS PASSED
PROPOSITION ONE FIFTEEN. THE
CRIME VICTIMS JUSTICE REFORM ACT
ONE OF THE PROVISIONS IN
PROPOSITION ONE FIFTEEN IS THE
ALLOWANCE FOR PEACE OFFICERS
WITH SPECIFIED TRAINING OR
EXPERIENCE. TO PROVIDE HEARSAY
TESTIMONY DURING PRELIMINARY
HEARINGS. THE LAW REQUIRED PIECE
OF **** EITHER TEN POST OF ALL
TRAINING FOR HAVE FIVE YEARS
EXPERIENCE PROVIDE THIS HEARSAY
TESTIMONY THE NEW LAW ONLY
APPLIED TO SWORN PEACE OFFICERS.
KERN DAY CITY OF REDDING LIKE
MANY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT
UTILIZES. UNARMED CIVILIAN
OFFICERS WE CALL ON COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICERS TO INVESTIGATE
A WIDE VARIETY OF PAST TENSE
FELONY MISDEMEANOR CRIMES. THOSE
INCLUDE FINANCIAL CRIMES ELDER
ABUSE CAR THEFT AND THEFT FROM
HOMES BUSINESSES AND
AUTOMOBILES. THE CIVILIAN
OFFICERS INTERVIEWED VICTIMS OR
WITNESSES. RIGHT PLEASE REPORT
TO COLLECT EVIDENCE. WHEN A
FELONY ARREST IS MADE ON THE
CASE PREVIOUSLY INVESTIGATED BY
CIVILIAN OFFICERS JUST RETURNS
OFFICE MISSISSIPPI KNOW THE
VICTIM IN WITNESSES TO TESTIFY
AT THE PRELIMINARY HEARING. THIS
IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON
VICTIMS OF ALREADY BEEN
VICTIMIZED WHEN THE CRIME WAS
COMMITTED. IN ADDITION THEY MUST
NOW MISS WORK CLOTHES ARE SMALL
BUSINESS FOR THE DAY HIGHER
DAYCARE MAKE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS
TO TESTIFY AT THE PRELIMINARY
HEARING. IF THE CASE IS
INVESTIGATED BY SWORN OFFICER.
THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.
ANOTHER OPTION IS TO HAVE A
SWORN OFFICER RE INTERVIEW ALL
VICTIMS AND WITNESSES OF ANY
FELONY. CASE PREVIOUSLY
INVESTIGATED BY CIVILIAN
OFFICERS. MIGHT APART RECEIVING
ON AVERAGE TEN TO FIFTEEN OF
THESE REQUESTS FROM THE DA'S
OFFICE EVERY MONTH. AND PROCESS
OF RE INTERVIEW VICTIMS OF
WITNESS TAKES SIGNIFICANT TIME
TO. AND KEEPS THAT. PEACE
OFFICER THE STREET AWAY FROM
THEIR PRIMARY DUTY OF RESPOND TO
EMERGENCY CALLS. THIS IS A
SIGNIFICANT DRAIN A LOT FIRST
RESOURCES. AND DEFEATS THE
PURPOSE OF HAVING SOME UNARMED
CIVILIAN OFFICERS IN POLICE
DEPARTMENTS. SB INTO FOUR SOLVE
BOTH THESE ISSUES AND ALLOWS IT
TO PROPERLY TRAIN POLICE
CIVILIAN OFFICER WITH A MINIMUM
OF FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE. TO
TESTIFY IN THE SAME MANNER I AM
SORRY. THANK YOU FOR ALL I MEAN
TESTIFIED TODAY THANK YOU IF WE
HAVE ANY OTHER LEADS SUPPORT
WHEN IT SAYS YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. SURE MEMBERS JONATHON
FELDMAN OF THE CALIFORNIA POLICE
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION I WON'T TAKE
THE FULL TWO MINUTES AND
REITERATE WHAT THE CHIEF IT
MENTIONED BUT- THIS IS A
STATEWIDE ISSUE. AND AS AGENCIES
HAVE MOVED. WITH THE PUBLIC TO
HAVE LESS SWORN OFFICERS CONTACT
HIM MEMBERS OF THE- PUBLIC. IN
LOW LEVEL CASES UTILIZING
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS
INSTEAD WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE COMMUNITY SERVICE
OFFICERS HAVE THE POWERS AND
TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB-
THIS ROOMS. AT LEAST GIVE THEM
THAT ABILITY- AND WE WOULD ASK
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM. SAME NONE WE'RE GONNA LOOK
MOVED LEAD OPPOSITE WITNESSES
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. I GOOD
MORNING LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS. ASSOCIATION AND THE
SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION.
ALLOWING CIVILIAN WITNESSES EVEN
LIMITED TO THOSE EMPLOYED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT. TO TESTIFY TO HEAR
SAY SERIOUSLY UNDERMINES THE
PURPOSE OF A PRELIMINARY HEARING
WHICH IS TO WEED OUT UNSUPPORTED
CHARGES. IT UNDERMINES
CALIFORNIA CASE LAW THAT IS
CONSISTENTLY UPHELD HEARSAY
EVIDENCE OFFERED BY TRAINED
EXPERIENCED SWORN OFFICERS WILL
NOT MINIMIZING THE VALUE OF
CIVILIAN POLICE EMPLOYEES. THEY
ARE NOT SWORN THEY DO NOT GO
THROUGH POLICE ACADEMY THEY DO
NOT HAVE THE BREADTH OF
EXPERIENCES A SWORN OFFICER
WOULD HAVE. THERE IS A REASON
THAT CUT PRELIMINARY HEARING
HEARSAY TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO
PUT SWORN OFFICERS AND THERE IS
NOT A REASON TO BROADEN IT AS
THIS BILL PROPOSES TO DO.
PRELIMINARY HEARINGS REMAIN A
CRITICAL STAGE OF A CRIMINAL
PROCEEDING. THE OTHER STATES
THAT GIVEN REDUCE FUNDING TO THE
POLICE WHICH THE DATA MAY NOT BE
SUPPORTING. QUOTE EFFICIENCY IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER
UNQUOTE. THE ISSUE WITH THIS
STATEMENT IS THAT EFFICIENCY
SHOULD NOT BE A PRIORITY IN A
CRIMINAL PROCEEDING THAT COULD
LEAD TO INCARCERATING A HUMAN
BEING. POLICE UNIONS MIGHT ALSO
WANT TO CONSIDER WHETHER THIS IS
A STEP TO REPLACE SWORN OFFICERS
WITH CHEAPER AND LESS SKILLED
LABOR GIVEN THE EROSION OF
PUBLIC TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUCH A COURSE SEEMS DESTINED TO
WIDEN RATHER THE BRIDGE THE GAP.
BETWEEN POLICE AND THE
COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE FOR
MYRIAD REASONS WE REQUEST YOUR
NO VOTE. THANK YOU- DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES
IN THE ROOM. TWO MINUTES. IT'S
MORNING CARMEN A CO COUNSEL
BEHALF OF ACLU CALIFORNIA ACTION
. I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO
APPRECIATE THE PURPOSE OF THE
PRELIMINARY HEARING AND WHAT THE
JUDGES BEING WHAT THE TRIER OF
FACT IS BEING ASKED TO ASSESS.
AND THAT IS THE CREDIBILITY OF
THE EVIDENCE WHEN WE REMOVE WE
SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER THE FACT
THAT EVERY PERSON WHO IS ACCUSED
HAS A RIGHT AS A GENERAL MATTER
TO CROSS EXAMINE THEIR ACCUSER
WHEN WE ALLOW FOR HEARSAY WHAT
WE'RE SAYING IS. YOU NO LONGER
GET THE RIGHT TO CROSS EXAMINE
YOUR ACCUSER IT ALSO SAYS THAT
THE PERSON WAS MAKING A
STATEMENT THAT THE TRIER OF FACT
IS BEING ASKED TO ACCEPT AS
TRUE. IS NOT PRESENT TO ASSESS
THEIR CREDIBILITY. WE SHOULD
ALSO BE VERY VERY CONCERNED WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THERE ARE
CONSEQUENCES FOR PERJURY FOR
EXAMPLE. INCLUDING UP TO UP TO
AND INCLUDING A DISCIPLINED AT
THEIR WORK. INCLUDING UP TO AND
INCLUDING ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT MORE SERIOUS
INSTANCES- POTENTIAL
DECERTIFICATION SO THE IDEA THAT
WE WOULD TAKE CIVILIANS AND HAVE
THEM REPLACE TRAINED LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THE
VERY. FOR THE PURPOSE OF SAYING
THAT WITNESSES WHOSE TESTIMONY
WITH ACCEPT AS TRUE DOESN'T NEED
TO BE HERE. OUGHT TO BE VERY
VERY CONCERNING WE ALREADY HAVE
A SYSTEM THAT IN MOST CASES 97%
OF CASES. THE CASES CONCLUDE THE
A PLEA BARGAIN. WE SHOULD NOT BE
FURTHER TRYING TO REMOVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO FIND TRUTH FOR
THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY. AND
ESPECIALLY WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE NOT NECESSARILY TRAINED AND
DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONSEQUENCES
FOR ERRORS WHETHER INTENTIONAL
OR OTHERWISE. FOR THESE REASONS
ACLU COLLECTION IS A RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. YES IS. SEEING NOW
WILL MOVE TO THE THAT ARE ON-
TESTIFY VIA TELL SERVER PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION MODERATOR IF YOU PLEASE
FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS. THANK
YOU AND WE DO HAVE A QUESTION
FROM LINE NINE. NINE NINE PLEASE
GO AHEAD- ARE YOU CAN SEE MY
NAME IS DARK BEARD AND I SUPPORT
SB EIGHT ZERO FOUR. YOU NOT
FURTHER VICTIMIZE VICTIMS THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I'M OF
CAROLINE FIFTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
SUREMARK WORKERS CALIFORNIA
ATTORNEY FOR COMMITTED IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR ANYONE ELSE- IS A Q. OR A-
HAVE A COMMENT PLEASE ONE AND.
ZERO SITTING NINE ONE SOMEONE
THANK YOU THANK YOU TO OUR
WITNESSES WILL NOW BRING BACK
THE DISCUSSION TO THE MEMBERS-
SENATORS SENATOR WIENER. I THANK
YOU THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR SO- I
WON- EXPLAIN WHY I'M GOING TO BE
VOTING FOR THIS BILL- TODAY AND
WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS BILL
BEFORE I DUG INTO I WAS
SKEPTICAL FOR A LOT OF THE
REASONS THAT WERE STATED HERE
TODAY- BUT AS I READ IT AND
REALLY. TRY TO CONTEXTUALIZE AND
WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING ALONG
PERSON TODAY WHEN I'M SITTING IN
MY OWN CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO I
THINK THIS BILL DOES- MAKES
SENSE- WE ARE SEEING
INCREASINGLY SAN FRANCISCO WE'RE
VERY SHORT STAFFED AND OUR
POLICE DEPARTMENT- AND SO THE
OFFICERS WERE SEEN SIGNIFICANT
DELAYS IN RESPONDING. TO CRIMES
I'M NOT CRITICIZING DEPARTMENT
THEY'RE REALLY TO STRETCH BEYOND
BELIEF- AND BEEN SEVERED CISCO
WE ARE ACTUALLY THIS IS THIS IS
RECOMMENDED- IN FIFTEEN YEARS
AGO AND OUR OUR- OUR OUR POLICE
UNION. FOUGHT IT HAVING FOR A
LONG TIME AND FINALLY HAPPENING
THAT WE ARE EMPLOYING MORE OF
THESE- INVEST NINE- NINE POLICE
OFFICER INVESTIGATORS WHO ARE
SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO GO UP
PARTICULARLY- IN SITUATIONS
WHERE WHERE IT'S NOT SOMETHING.
THAT'S AN ACTIVE CRIME WORK WORK
A HOME HOT HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO
AND THEY'RE GONE OR CAR HAS BEEN
BROKEN INTO SOMEONE WHO CAN DO
THE INVESTIGATION DO FINGERPRINT
WRITE A REPORT INTERVIEW
WITNESSES AND IS SPECIFICALLY
TRAINED TO DO AND NOT TO SOMEONE
PULLED OFF THE STREETS ALMOST. A
PROFESSIONAL AND TRAINED TO DO
THAT WHICH IS LOWER COST THAN
HIRING WITH THEM POLICE OFFICER
AND FREES UP POLICE OFFICERS. TO
DO LIKE MORE URGENT KINDS OF
WORK- AND I'VE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN
A SUPPORTER OF THAT WILL BE YOU
KNOW CIVILIAN POSITION OF THOSE
KINDS OF FUNCTIONS THAT IT TAKES
A LOT OF STRESS OFF OF OUR
POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IS MORE
AND THE COST IS LAST IN TERMS OF
THE PERSONNEL- BUT IF FORGET. IT
WITHOUT ALLOWING THEM. TO
TESTIFY AS- BUT OUTLINED THIS
BILL COMING. WERE CREATING AND
FOR THE POOR IS NOT TO MOVE- IN
THE DIRECTION AND SO I THINK THE
MAKES SENSE I. WANT THE I. AM.
TO YOU KNOW MAKING THAT PEOPLE
WHO ARE FROM. THIS YEAR'S A
TESTING ARE TRY. AND THE BILL IS
VERY. THAT A LAW ENFORCEMENT.
DOING THIS HAS TO HAVE EITHER
FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A
LAW ENFORCEMENT CIVILIAN TO BE
HAVE TO BEEN DOING THIS FOR
LEASE FIVE YEARS OR HAVE
COMPLETED A TRAINING COURSE.
EQUIVALENT TO THE TRAINING
COURSE DESCRIBED IN SUBDIVISION
BE WHICH I BELIEVE IS A POLICE
ACADEMY LEVEL A POST- CLASS- AND
SO THIS IS AGAIN NOT. AN EXPERT
IS A PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED
EITHER THE SAME TRAINING TO DO
THIS IS POLICE OFFICER OR HAVE
BEEN DOING THIS WORK- FOR FIVE
YEARS- SO I THINK THIS IS A
REASONABLE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
THE RESPECT- THE OBJECTION
OPPOSITION TO IT NINE. ANYWAY
CRITICAL OF THE OPPOSITION THIS
IS A TOUGH ISSUE BUT I THINK ON
BALANCE- I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS
BILL AND I'M HAPPY TO MOVE IT.
THANK YOU SENATOR WINNER-
SENATOR OKAY- YOU KNOW SO
PERSONALLY I JUST WILL SAY THAT
I THINK THAT- I UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE WHAT THE GOAL IS BUT- JUST
WORKING WITH OUR- IN OUR LOCAL
CITY- SOME OF THESE EFFORTS HI.
I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH
IT I THINK THAT IT IS-
CONCERNING I ALSO THINK THAT- AS
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND YOU JUST THE
INSTITUTION ITSELF- I WILL NOT
BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I
THINK IT'S ACTUALLY DETRIMENTAL-
TO THE INSTITUTION I ALSO THINK
THAT- THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT.
WANT TO WORK- YOU KNOW THEY'RE
NOT A 100% THAT IT TO BE
COMPLETELY FRANK- AND YES THEY
CAN HAVE SOME OF THE TRAINING
POST TRAINING IS NOT SUFFICIENT
AND TO MY STANDARD AT LEAST- AND
AT THE SAME TIME. IT TENDS TO
ATTRACT A CERTAIN TYPE OF
INDIVIDUAL THAT IS INTERESTED IN
THIS- WE'VE SEEN IT AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL AND BECAUSE ACTUALLY MORE
PROBLEMS- IN MY PERSONAL OPINION
SO. I NOT BE SUPPORTING- BUT THE
BILL MOVE- CENTER WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CALL. YEAH I WANTED TO THE
THANKS FOR THE CALL. FOR FROM
THE SENATOR FROM- SAN FRANCISCO.
BUT THIS BILL WAS BROUGHT TO ME
I RESPECT THE OPPOSITION AS WELL
M. AND WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE-
IT IS A MORE I THINK THE FOCUS
MAINLY ON EFFICIENCIES AND COST
THAT'S REALLY NOT THE ISSUE IT'S
ABOUT GETTING. PEOPLE TO DO THE
JOB AND THE POST TRAINING
THEY'RE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO
THE TRAINING THAT'S WHY I THINK
THE BILL THAT DOES MAKE A CALL
AT COMMONSENSE APPROACH TO.
TRYING TO. DO THE RIGHT THING
AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE
VICTIMS. WHO HAVE TO BE THEN-
BREEZY- INTERVIEWED WITH A SWORN
PEACE OFFICER I THINK THAT
BECAUSE DOT COM THAT'S WHERE WE
RUN OF THE ISSUE SO- I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL IT IS A
COMMON SENSE BILL WE'RE TRYING
TO GET IN THE- IN THE SAME-
CLASSIFICATIONS WERE WE SEEING.
OTHER CENTERS BRING BILLS
FORWARD THAT TO. YOU KNOW ALLOW
OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ACTUALLY DO
LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT AREN'T EVEN
CITIZENS. AND WE PASSED THOSE
TYPES OF BILLS THIS IS THIS IS A
BILL WHAT WE HAVE MET THE
QUALIFICATIONS- I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU- THE
BILL HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
WIENER. MCCALL SB EIGHT OH FOUR
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
FLOOR SENATOR BOB NO POP NO JOB
. JOB AYE BRADFORD. SKINNER.
WIENER AYE WIENER AYE. THE BILL
IS ON CALL THANK YOU. BYE
DEFINITELY YOU WILL GET
RECONSIDERATION OF DISTANCE NOT
MONTH- SENATOR. GROUP IF YOU'RE
- THE FLOOR IS YOUR. SHE'S. OKAY
. ONE SENATOR RUBIO- WILL BE
PRESENT S. THREE SO SIX I
BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE X. THE
COME AMEND AS WE- YES. ALL RIGHT
THE IS YOURS I DON'T. THINK KILL
OKAY GOOD MORNING TERRY
COMMITTEE MAY- AS YOU SEE- I
WILL BE X. THAT CAN MEMBER AND I
WANTED THE CHAIR AND STAFF FOR
WORK WITH MY- TODAY I PRESENTING
SB SEVEN SIX WHICH WOULD CRIED
VICTIMS OF HUMAN. TRAFFICKING
THE RIGHT TO AN ADVOCATE OR
SUPPORT PERSON OF THEIR CHOOSING
TO BE PRESENT ANY INTERVIEW BY
LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES
PROSECUTORS OR DEFENSE
ATTORNEYS. ADDITIONALLY THIS
BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE ATTORNEY
LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY TO
NOTIFY OR ADVICE A VICTIM OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF THAT RIGHT.
IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THE
ADVOCATE TO INFORM THE VICTIM OF
LIMITATIONS ON THE
CONFIDENTIALITY OF THEIR
COMMUNICATION. HUMAN TRAFFICKING
IS A WORLDWIDE EPIDEMIC HUMAN
TRAFFICKING HAS INCREASED EIGHT
HUNDRED AND 42% IN THE US SINCE
TWO THOUSAND SEVEN. WITH
CALIFORNIA HAVING THE LARGEST
INCREASE OF REPORTED CASES IN
TWO TWENTY SEVENTEEN CALIFORNIA
HAVE THE MOST CALLS TO THE
HOTLINE NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND
CALLS AND THE MOST REPORTED
CASES OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING ONE
THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND FIVE.
THE RIGHT TO AN ADVOCATE IS
CURRENTLY ONLY GRANTED TO
VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BUT VICTIMS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING EXPERIENCE
SIMILAR BARRIERS. THEY'RE
EXTREMELY VULNERABLE AND MANY.
OFTEN FEEL HELPLESS AND UNSURE
ON OF HOW TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM
ESPECIALLY AFTER A TRAUMATIC
EXPERIENCE WE MUST CONSIDER WHAT
THEY WENT THROUGH HOW YOUNG SOME
OF THEM ARE. AND WE A SOMETIMES
EXPECT THEM TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE
AND BE ABLE TO BE STRONG ENOUGH
TO WITHSTAND A SYSTEM. THAT IS
NOT DESIGNED TO HELP THEM. IT
ISN'T TO UNDER THE VICTIMS MAY
FEEL FEARFUL OF STEPPING FORWARD
AND GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL
PROCESS DUE TO FEAR OF THE
GOVERNMENT DISTRUST OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT THEIR IMMIGRATION
STATUS OR OTHER FEARS SUCH AS
RETALIATION. SOME HAVE BEEN
SEXUALLY EXPLOITED FORCED TO
WORK UNDER UNBEARABLE CONDITIONS
FOR COURSE INTO COMMITTING
CRIMES THE HUMAN OP TRAUMA IT'S
HARD TO UNDERSTAND AT RUNS DEEP.
AND IT IS OVERWHELMING TO GO
THROUGH THIS PROCESS ALONE.
ACCESS TO A CONFIDENTIAL
ADVOCATE THEY CAN PROVIDE TRAUMA
INFORMED SURVIVOR CENTERED AND
CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE SUPPORT
INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD THAT
THE VICTIM WILL FULLY COOPERATE.
AND HAVE ACCESS TO VITAL
SERVICES. AND OF COURSE PURSUE
LEGAL REMEDIES WHICH IS WHAT WE
WANTED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING
AFFECTS EVERYONE IT DOES NOT
DISCRIMINATE AND IT COULD HAPPEN
TO ANYONE- TODAY HERE WITH ME TO
TESTIFY IS LEAH. CHAPELLE ON
BEHALF OF CAST AND PER LE FLORES
WITH COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS THANK
YOU CHAIR THANK YOU AND BEFORE
WE GO TO OUR FIRST LEAD WITNESS-
I WILL HAND THIS THE GAVEL OVER
TO SENATOR JOE BOCA- AS. I HAVE
TO PRESENT SENATOR. THE YOU. SO
YOU HAVE A TO LEAD WITNESS.
PLEASE IN. THANK YOU MY NAME'S
LEE LAST I'M THE ASSIST
DIRECTORS AFTER WITH THE
COALITION ABOLISH SLAVERY AND
TRAFFICKING WE ARE ONE OF THE
NATION'S LARGEST ANTI
TRAFFICKING SERVICE PROVIDERS.
AND I PERSONALLY HAVE SPENT THE
MAJORITY OF MY TIME AT CAST
WORKING DIRECTLY WITH ESCAPING
SURVIVORS THROUGH OUR TWENTY
FOUR HOUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE
PROGRAM. PREVIOUS TO THAT I
WORKED WITH SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND WHEN I
FIRST CAME TO CAST AN LEARNED
THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS
DID NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO AN
ADVOCATE UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW. I
WAS APPALLED AND EVERY TIME I
COULD NOT ACCOMPANY A CLIENT OF
MINE WHO NEEDED ME INTO AN
INTERVIEW I WAS HEARTBROKEN. AND
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY
IS JUST EQUITY UNDER THE LAW FOR
HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS
ALONG SIDE OF SEXUAL AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS. SO
I AM URGING YOU TODAY TO SUPPORT
SB THREE SEVEN SIX WHICH WOULD
ENSURE. THAT THOSE SURVIVORS
HAVE A RIGHT TO AN ADVOCATE AS
THEY NAVIGATE THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM WE'VE ALSO ENSURED THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT SIMILAR TO WHEN
THEY'RE WORKING WITH SEXUAL
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS.
HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THAT
SUPPORT PERSON OR ADVOCATES TO
LEAVE THAT INTERVIEW IF THEY
FEEL LIKE IT'S COMPROMISING IT
IN SOME WAY BECAUSE WE DO WANT
TO MAINTAIN. THE INTEGRITY OF
THAT INVESTIGATION. I'VE SEEN
FIRST HAND OVER AND OVER AND
OVER AGAIN THAT IF AN ADVOCATE
IS THERE OR SUPPORT PERSON IS
THERE THAT SURVIVOR IS MORE
LIKELY TO COOPERATE. WE'RE GOING
TO SEE INCREASED COOPERATION LAW
ENFORCEMENT INCREASED
COOPERATION WITH PROSECUTION AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY LESS RE
VICTIMIZATION UNLESS
CRIMINALIZATION OF SURVIVORS.
WITH THAT ADVOCATE PRESENT. SO
THIS BILL WILL POSITION THE
STATE TO TAKE A TRAUMA INFORMED
APPROACH TO INVESTIGATION WHILE
WORKING TO PROTECT SURVIVORS. BY
INFORMING THEM OF THEIR RIGHTS
AND CONNECTING THEM TO
APPROPRIATE LEGAL SERVICES AND
SOCIAL SERVICES. CALIFORNIA HAS
THE URGENT OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE
GLOBAL LEADER AND ANTI
TRAFFICKING EFFORTS BUT THAT
STARTS WITH PROTECTING OUR MOST
VULNERABLE FROM EXPLOITATION. I
WANT TO THANK YOU ALL TODAY AND
OUR AUTHOR. FOR STANDING WITH
SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
THE YOU. GOOD MORNING THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB THREE
SEVENTY SIX. MY NAME IS PART OF
LOTUS AND I HAVE WORKED IN THE
ANTI GENDER RIGHT BY THE
BASEBALL FIELD FOR OVER TWENTY
YEARS. I CURRENTLY OVERSEE
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE SEXUAL
ASSAULT AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
SERVICES FOR COMMUTES DELUSIONS.
AND WILL TAKE SERVICE FEE BASED
ORGANIZATION SERVING THE
COUNTIES OF SANTA CLARA SAN
BENITO. MUSICIANS IS PROUD TO CO
SPONSOR SB THREE SEVENTY SIX.
FOR DECADES SURVIVORS OF
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE AND
SEXUAL ASSAULT HAVE HAD THE
RIGHT TO HAVE AN ADVOCATE AND
SUPPORT PERSON OF THEIR CHOOSING
PRESENT. DURING FOLLOW UP
INTERVIEWS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
PROSECUTOR AND ACCUSED DEFENSE
ATTORNEYS. HAVING AN ADVOCATE
PRESS CENTER IN FOLLOW UP
INTERVIEWS ENSURE SURVIVORS FEEL
SUPPORTED VALIDATED AND SAFE.
DURING WHAT COULD BE A VERY
INTIMIDATING AND DRAMATIC
PROCESS. ADVOCATE INVOLVEMENT
ALSO INCREASES SURVIVORS
UNDERSTANDING OF THE RIGHTS HAS
VICTIMS OF CRIME. CAN FACILITATE
ACCESS TO LONG TERM TRAUMA
INFORMED SURVIVOR CENTERED AND
CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE SUPPORT.
ADDITIONALLY ADVOCATES PROVIDE
REFERRALS TO VITAL RESOURCES
INCLUDING HOUSING SELF
SUFFICIENCY PROGRAMS AND EQUAL
SERVICE AS- THE RIGHT TO AN
ATTRIBUTE TO NAVIGATE IS
CURRENTLY NOT AFFORDED TO HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS. YET
SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
EXPERIENCE MANY OF THE SAME
VULNERABILITIES POWER CONTROL
TACTICS. VIOLENCE AND ABUSE THAT
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE AND
SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS
EXPERIENCES. MANY FOREIGN BORN
HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS ARE
PARTICULARLY AT RISK FOR FUTURE
EXPLOITATION OR HARM. GIVEN
THEIR LACK OF LEGAL STATUS. THE
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS PROTECTION
ACT INCLUDES IMMIGRATION
REMEDIES AND SOCIAL SERVICE
BENEFITS FOR FOREIGN BORN HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS. ADVOCATES
PLAY A KEY ROLE IN SUPPORTING
SURVIVOR LINKAGE TO THESE
IMMIGRATION REMEDIES AND SOCIAL
SERVICE BENEFITS. SB THREE
NINETY SIX THREE SEVENTY SIX
AIMS TO AUGMENT HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SURVIVOR SAFETY A
TANAMI AND AGENCY. THROUGH
INCREASED ACCESS TO ADVOCACY AND
COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES PLEASE
SUPPORT. SPK SEVENTY SIX. THANK
YOU. TO BOTH OUR- WE IS THIS
WILL HE FROM ANY SUPER WITNESSES
IN ROOM. TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. I'M
SURE INTERNET DIRECTOR SOUTH BAY
COALITION AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
ON ON BEHALF OF THE FOLLOWING
AGENCIES THAT FORD FOUNDATION
AND THE YWCA GOLDEN GATE SILICON
VALLEY. SORRY I JUSTICE CENTER
AND THE WAIT STAFF COALITION OF
SANTA CLARA COUNTY WE SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER LEAD WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. SEE NOW
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. TO SB. THREE SEVENTY
SIX. LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION WE THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR TAKING THE AMENDMENTS AND WE
WILL WITHDRAW OUR OPPOSITION. IF
YOU HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION HERE IN ROOM. TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED. SEEING NONE THANK
YOU WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE ARVEST PLEASE-
NOT A MARKET MODERATE IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE FROM THE WITNESSES
TO- A TELECONFERENCE LINE. AND
FOR THE FOR THOSE THAT WILL BE
AT HAS A FLYING OVER THE
TELECONFERENCE PLEASE JUST STATE
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION PLEASE. THANK YOU BYE
BYE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. S. COLLEGE FIND FIFTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THREE ONE
HUNDRED. AND FIFTY EURO FANS.
HELLO HELLO. MY NAME IS ALYSSA
CLEAR SALUTE AND ACTUALLY AND I
DON'T CALL HIM SUPPORT OF THE
PAST OF ATHLETES. SEVEN SIX.
THANK YOU WOMAN COMBINED TWENTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME
IS MILAN MARTINEZ FROM COMMUNITY
SOLUTIONS AND I AM CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF THE PASSAGE OF SB.
THREE SEVENTY SIX. EIGHTY ONE
TWENTY FOURTH PLEASE GO AHEAD.
REPUBLICAN POLISHER FONG
COMMUNITY POLLUTION RECALLING TO
AFFORDABLE STATUS OF SB THREE
SEVEN THANK YOU. FIND TWENTY
EIGHT CALL. I BOB. AND PRACTICES
FOR ALL TEXAS EVERY. THANK YOU
ONLINE A PLEASE CALL. MY NAME IS
AND MANY AND I CALLING IN FOR OF
THE PASS IS EARNED. A SEVEN SIX
YEAR. SIXTY ONE GO AHEAD. OF NO
VERY COOL BUT I'M THE OF THE
DIRECTOR COUNTY WAIT COALITION
AND I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF SB
STEP SIX THANK YOU. AND LINE
NINE PLEASE. HI DARA HERE
TWENTIETH COUNTY IN SUPPORT OF
PATH. THREE SEVEN SIX. MY FIFTY
EIGHT POINT FIVE. TWENTY EIGHT
YEAR OLD. AFTER. LET ME THAT
REGULATE THE STRONG OF AT THE
END OF. IT PLEASE CALL. RIGHT ON
. THANK EIGHTY NINE VEHICLE.
NINE THIRTY NINE YEAR OLD MAN.
HELLO YES YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI
MORNING MY NAME IS THIRTY L. A.
ON TIME FOR ME TO CONNECT FOUND
THE AND I'M CALLING IN. OF ITS-
THREE THANK YOU. THANK YOU WILL
MOVE TO THE LINE PLEASE GO HAS.
MY THIRTEEN YEAR OPEN. REMOVED
TO LINE FIFTY FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS CHRISTINA
MARTINEZ. THREE THIRDS FROM THE
KERN COUNTY AND I AM CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF THE PASSAGE OF SB.
THREE SEVEN SIX. THANK YOU
ADELINE FORTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS LANA DEL OF
IT UP FROM COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS
MCCARTY COUNTY AND I'M CALLING
IN SUPPORT OF THE PASSAGE OF SB
. THREE SEVEN SIX. THANK YOU NOW
FOR THEIR- THANK YOU PLEASE GO
AHEAD THANK YOU MADAM MODERATOR
AND THANK YOU TO ALL OUR SUPPORT
IN OPPOSITION WITNESSES- WE'LL
BRING IT BACK TO OUR MEMBERS.
SENATOR SKINNER. THANK YOU
APPRECIATE IT- THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THE BILL FOR US I AM
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL- EARNED
AN APOLOGIES THAT I DON'T HAVE
THE PAGE IN FRONT OF ME DID
DECIDE COMMITTEE HAVE AMENDMENTS
IN THIS SO IT TOOK THE COMMITTEE
SENTIMENTS SO- I WILL MOVE THE
BILL WITH THE COMMITTEES MOMENTS
AND APPRECIATE THE OFFER BRING
IT FOR. THANK YOU SENATORS DO
HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS
QUESTIONS. THE REGARD- I JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS A
MEASURE FORWARD AND- WHEN I'VE
LOOKED AT THESE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING BILLS THERE IS A
HUGE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
TAKE CARE OF BOTH THE VICTIMS
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HOLD.
THE PERPETRATORS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
SOMETHING DIFFERENT THIS MEASURE
HI AND THIS SPECIAL KUDOS TO THE
BOTH EVERTON LEAD WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF THE OF THE BILL AND
THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IT
TAKES A VERY SPECIAL HART- IN
SPIRIT TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN
THAT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE
IT'S AN INCREDIBLY EMOTIONALLY.
DRAINING FOR IMPACTING. WORKS
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT
COURAGE AND THAT HARD TO SERVE-
THOSE VICTIMS THANK YOU- WITH
THAT MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE. I'M
SORRY YES- WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE IT. YES THANK YOU I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS YOU KNOW
HAVING AN ADVOCATE IS AN
IMPORTANT STEP TO BUILDING TRUST
IN THE SYSTEM AND WE CLEARLY
KNOW THAT. ARE VICTIMS ALREADY
IN A VULNERABLE STATE AND I'M
IT'S A STEP FORWARD IN HOLDING
PERPETRATORS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL
SO I THINK YOU AND I ASKED
RESPECTFULLY. AND FOR AN AYE
VOTE THANK YOU. AS THREE SEVENTY
SIX MUCH IS TO PASS AS AMEND TO
APPROACH. WILL HOP. UP TO ABOUT
HI TO ABOUT AYE BRADFORD.
SKINNER HE AYE WIENER WIENER AYE
. THANK YOU WILL WILL ADD.
SLOTHFUL WILL PUT REPLACE THE
BILL THE CALL FOR OUR ABSENT
THANK YOU THANK YOU. SENATE
SKINNER WHICH YOU LIKE TO
PRESENT TO BILL.
WHEN YOU'RE READY.
MIDDLE.
FROM I THINK MY WITNESSES WERE
BECAUSE I'M LAST ON FILE- LASSEN
THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE BUT WOULD
YOU LIKE TO WILLING TO. WE WERE
MORE THAN HAPPY TO HATE- WAIT TO
ACCOMMODATE YOUR AND I'M ALSO
JUST CHECKING WITH THE OTHER
COMMITTEE WHERE I'M BILL NUMBER
FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT
GOING TO BE CALLED RIGHT SO LET
ME JUST LET ME HAVE A MINUTE. NO
RUSH WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE
DOES HAPPEN IF NOT ALL THAN
PERCENT CENTER WILL HAVE IS
PRESENT IN YOUR OWN SO WE'VE GOT
TIME. THE LITTLE THIS CALL.
SKINNER YEAH WE CAN WITH ALSO.
FRIEDMAN. TWELVE THE QUALITY. OF
RIGHT SO I ONE WAS SB NOW SORRY
WE DO NOT. I DON'T SB TWO SIXTY
WAS OVER GIL MOST WAS TO AS A TO
A PER. SPREAD. A. L. DEGREE AND
IT'S ONE ONE THIS IS. THANK THE
HOBBIT TO. ONE
RIGHT BRADFORD SKINNER. CONSENT
CONSENT. WIENER AYE WIENER
WIENER AYE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE
ZERO SB THREE SEVENTY SIX THE
MOST IT IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. NIELSEN SAID
THAT WHAT A BRADFORD. THIRTY
BILLS AND YES YEAH ITEM. ITEM
EIGHT WAS S. FOUR FIFTY PLAY
BEER THE MOVE MISTY BECAUSE I TO
A- MUCH OF A- BRAD. THE OTHER.
FORTY OF. FOUR FIFTY. IT IS.
FOR CALLING SB EIGHT OH FOUR
DOLLY MOST ONCE YOU PASS THE
FLOOR WEEK S. THEIR CHAIR WAS A
NO. SKINNER SKINNER NOW. THAT'S
ALL.
WRITING BY TEN THIRTY SO I THINK
I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD UNTIL THEN
. THAT BE GREAT. OKAY.
IF.
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY M. WE
ARE GOING TO RECESS UNTIL
FURTHER NOTICE WE HAVE SEVERAL
MEMBERS OF OUR ARMED COMMITTEES
PRESENTING BILLS SO WE'RE GOING
TO RECESS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
AND- THREE SEVEN RAISED
COMMITTEES IN RECESS ENJOYED
LUNCH.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR HEM TODAY
I'M HERE TO PRESENT S. B. TWO
THIRTY SEVEN HITS AN ENHANCEMENT
ON SENTENCES FOR FENTANYL
DEALERS AND TRAFFICKERS THE
FINALE EPIDEMIC IN CALIFORNIA.
IS A CRISIS AND IT HAS TO BE
ADDRESSED WITH GREATER URGENCY.
CAN IT IS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST
SAID IT'S A CRISIS IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE THERE WERE FIVE
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND
TWENTY TWO FIT NOW RELATED
DEATHS IN CALIFORNIA THE SECOND
HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY WITH TWO
HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR OF THEM
BEING MINORS THAT'S FIVE
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND
TWENTY TWO LIVES TAKEN FROM
FRIENDS FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES
AT FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED
TWENTY TWO PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE
BEEN SAVED IF DEALERS AND
TRAFFICKERS COULD NOT REACH
THEM. LAST YEAR THERE WAS A FIVE
HUNDRED AND 94% INCREASE OF
SIGNAL SEIZED AT THE BORDER
COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR
AND IN A REPORT FROM THIS
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THERE WAS
STILL ENOUGH OF THAT DRUG
REACHING THIS STATE IN TWENTY
TWENTY TWO TO KILL EVERY MAN
WOMAN AND CHILD IN NORTH AMERICA
TWICE. THERE'S NO DENYING THAT
FIT ALL OVERDOSES HAVE BEEN ON
THE RISE FOR MANY YEARS NOW. IN
FRESNO COUNTY. THE CORONER'S
OFFICE REPORTED THAT ONLY TO
SEND ALL RELATED CASES IN TWO
THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN EXISTED.
BY TWENTY TWENTY ONE THERE WERE
OVER A HUNDRED AND TEN FIT AND
ALL THIS. AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF
MY COUNTIES IF YOU WERE TO LOOK
INTO YOUR COUNTIES THAT YOU
REPRESENT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU
THAT YOU WOULD FIND THE SAME
UNFORTUNATE STEADY RISE. IN
FENTANYL FATALITIES. WE NEED TO
SHIFT OUR ATTENTION TO CATCHING
THESE PREDATORS. WHO SELL THIS
STRING TO GET THEM AND GET THEM
OFF THE STREET SO THEY CANNOT
HURT ANYONE ELSE. IN ITS IN THIS
LEGISLATION THAT WILL HELP
ACCOMPLISH THAT SB TWO THIRTY
SEVEN INCREASES PENALTIES FOR
THE POSSESSION. NOW BUT
INCREASING PENALTIES OFFENDERS
WILL SPEND MORE TIME IN JAIL IN
LESS TIME DISTRIBUTING THE SLEEP
REPORT THAT. A POISON TO OUR
CHILDREN WITH ME TODAY AND THE
SPONSOR OF SB TWO THIRTY SEVEN
IS THE FRESNO COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY LEASES MAKE CAMP. AN
EXPERT IN YOUR FIELD AND LARA
DIETER AN INCREDIBLE MOM FROM
ROCKLIN CALIFORNIA THAT LOST HER
BEAUTIFUL SON ZACHARY TO AND-
AND EARLY LIFE. DUE TO THE
TRAGIC SENTINEL CRISIS THAT WE
HAVE IN THE STATE. MISMA CAMP.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE SENATE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU
TODAY MY NAME IS LISA MAKE CAMP
BUT I'M THE ELECTED DISTRICT
ATTORNEY OF THE COUNTY OF
FRESNO. RIGHT NOW I SPEND 5260%
OF MY TIME EDUCATING MY
COMMUNITY ABOUT THE ILLS AND
THAT ENDED RISKS OF FENTON ALL.
BECAUSE THE CALIFORNIA STATE
LAWS FAIL TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE
THAT WE ARE IN CHARGE OF AN
ELECTED TO PROTECT. TODAY WITH
THE PRESENCE OF A LISTED A
LISTEN AN ABUNDANT FENTON ALL WE
ARE IN A WHOLE NEW DIMENSION IN
FENTON ALL IS NOT ONLY A PUBLIC
SAFETY ISSUE. BUT IT IS A PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS. WE CANNOT APPLY
THE SAME STANDARDS OF THE PAST
AND- OURSELVES INTO THINKING
THAT FENTANYL IS JUST THE NEWEST
DRUG ON THE MARKET. AND CONTINUE
TO TREAT PEOPLE WHO SELL IT TO
THE SAME WAY. IF WE CAN AGREE ON
NOTHING ELSE WE HAVE TO AGREE
THE FENTON ALL IS DIFFERENT YES
I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN. FENTANYL IS
DIFFERENT THAN STREET DRUGS AND
ANY OTHER GENERATION. IT IS
DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF ITS
LEGALITY. AND ITS ABILITY TO
KILL INSTANTLY AND IMMEDIATELY.
SENTINEL WILL KILL EVERYONE FROM
A FIRST TIME USER TO A FULL
FLEDGED ATTIC. HE'S UNDERSTAND
THAT THESE DRUGS ARE NOT BEING
ACCIDENTALLY SOLD OR SHARED. TO
SUGGEST THAT IS AN INSULT TO
EVERY PARENT WHO HAS LOST A
CHILD. TO THIS POISON. PEOPLE
WHO ARE MANUFACTURING
TRANSPORTING AND SELLING THIS
ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT THEY ARE
DOING. THE ADDICTIVE NATURE OF
THE SUBSTANCE AND THEY ARE MOST
AWARE OF THE INCREDIBLE PROFITS
THEY ARE MAKING AS A RESULT.
DESPITE MISINFORMATION IN THE
MEDIA TODAY. THE ROLE OF A
PROSECUTOR IS NOT SIMPLY TO PUT
PEOPLE IN JAIL OR PRISON. AND
THROW AWAY THE KEY.
PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION IS
SOMETHING THIS COMMITTEE IS WELL
AWARE OF. WE HAVE A LACK TWO DJS
ALL OVER THE STATE WHO CHOOSE
EVERY DAY WHETHER OR NOT TO
PURSUE CERTAIN CRIMES. IN THEIR
INDIVIDUAL JURISDICTIONS.
PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION CAN
ALSO BE USED IN THE APPLICATION
OF HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE
SECTION ELEVEN THREE FIFTY ONE.
AND ELEVEN THREE FIFTY TWO WITH
THE AMENDMENTS BROUGHT FORTH BY
SEN BY THIS SENATE BILL. IT IS
GIVING LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL AND
TO TARGET THE MOST SERIOUS
OFFENDERS WHO ARE SPREADING THE
POISON IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU MAY
BE SAYING TO YOURSELF HOW DO WE
KNOW THIS IS TRUE IT IS TRUE
BECAUSE WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICES
AS PROSECUTORS. SINCE THE
REALIGNMENT OF CDCR AND ELEVEN
SEVENTY H. CRIMES- ARE YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES ALL RIGHT CAN I JUST
FINISH UP HERE. ONE NINE OKAY
THERE ARE LIMON NUMBER OF BEDS
IN OUR COUNTY JAILS AND WITHOUT
A CONSEQUENCE OF CONCERNS AND
ABILITY WE HAVE NO ORDER. IF YOU
ALLOW THESE DEALERS TO CONTINUE
THIS BEHAVIORS WE ARE NOT DOING
WHAT WE ARE ELECTED AND EXPECTED
TO DO. THANK YOU. NEXT WEEK.
AFTERNOON SENTENCES. AND MADAM
CHAIR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND LISTENING TO MY TESTIMONY
TODAY. MY NAME IS FLORIDA DEAR.
I'M SOBER TWENTY FIFTH OF TWENTY
TWENTY CHRISTMAS DAY. I WAS
ENJOYING THE HOLIDAY WITH MY
PARENTS AND MY THREE BELOVED
CHILDREN ELLIE SALMON SACK. MY
CHILDREN ARE MY WORLD. AND I WAS
SO PROUD OF THE BEAUTIFUL.
BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE
GROWING INTO. ZACK MY BABY WAS
SEVENTEEN HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR
WHITNEY HIGH IN ROCKLAND.
STRAIGHT A STUDENT AND ATHLETE
THE SELF TAUGHT MUSICIAN A KIND
FRIEND TO ALL. A LOVING
BOYFRIEND AND AN ALL AROUND
AMAZING KID. TWO DAYS AFTER THAT
WONDERFUL HOLIDAY I WATCHED A
CORNER. TAKE MY BEAUTIFUL BOY
OUT OF THE HOME OUT OF OUR HOME
. OUR FAMILY WAS BLINDSIDED BY
HIS UNEXPECTED AND TRAGIC DEATH
THAT COULD NO MEDICAL
CONDITIONS. NOR WAS HE
STRUGGLING WITH ANY SUBSTANCE
USE ISSUES NO DRUGS WERE FOUND
IN HIS ROOM. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE
WERE ABLE TO OPEN HIS PHONE THE
NEXT DAY THAT WOULD BE WE BEGAN
TO PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER IN
HIS CAUSE OF DEATH. A DRUG
DEALER OPERATING ON SNAPCHAT HAD
CONNECTED WITH ZACH HE PURCHASED
WHAT WAS BEING MARKETED AS A
PRESCRIPTION PAIN PILL. AND THAT
ONE COUNTERFEIT HOMEMADE WITH
PENCIL KILL DIMINISH BEDROOM.
THIS TRAGEDY DEVASTATED MY
FAMILY AND SAKS FRIENDS IN WAYS
YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE. THERE ARE
NO WORDS TO ADEQUATELY EXPRESS
THE EXCRUCIATING PAIN OF LOSING
SOMEONE SO PRECIOUS AND SEVEN
YOUNG WITHOUT WARNING.
BACKSTORIES BECOMING ALL TOO
COMMON IN OUR STATE. SENTINEL
HAS IRREVERSIBLY CHANGED THE
DRUG LANDSCAPE INTO THE
DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE WE'RE
WITNESSING TODAY. KIDS ARE DYING
FROM YOUTHFUL EXPERIMENTATION. A
SELF MEDICATION FROM THE SEPT OF
DRUGS. INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
BATTLING SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
BEING ROBBED OF THE CHANCE TO
REGAIN THEIR HEALTH BECAUSE OF
THE HIGHLY ADDICTIVE AND LETHAL
QUALITIES OFFENSE AND ALL. BRIEF
PARENTS LIKE ME AND SOCKS FATHER
SHARING OUR STORIES TO WARN OUR
COMMUNITIES. BUT THIS CRISIS
DEMANDS A MULTI FACETED
RESPONSE. THE CONSEQUENCES OF
SELLING DEADLY DRUGS MUST BE
COMMENSURATE WITH THE
DEVASTATION. THAT THEY ARE
CAUSING. ONE FOUR SMITH MUST BE
ARMED WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED
TO REMOVE DRUG DEALERS AND
TRAFFICKERS FROM OUR STREETS.
FOR THESE REASONS AND THE MEMORY
OF MY BEAUTIFUL FRIEND. I URGE
YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. T. THIRTY SEVEN
HERE. THE ROOM. TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. MY NAME IS PARLAMENTO
THEM I AM THE FOUNDER OF PROJECT
YOU LIVE I TOO LOST MY SON TO
FENTANYL POISONING. I'M ASKING
BREAKING THAT YOU GUYS DO
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.
AND SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE. IS
THIS GONNA HAPPEN FRESNO COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. SUSAN ARNOLD VICE
PRESIDENT OF LEGAL AFFAIRS AT
THE RIGHT TO LIFE LEAGUE WE ARE
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. T. WHO CO
IN OF TELLER COUNTY ON BEHALF OF
TULARE COALITION FOR FREEDOM.
THE END OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY
PRESENCE OF LIBERTY AND MUST
TULARE COUNTY CALVARY CHAPEL BY
SALLY AND ROCKER RICHARD
BAKERSFIELD WE ALL STAND IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. MICHAEL
FUHRMAN ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OF S. B. T. THIRTY
SEVEN HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. C. NINE WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION DO WE HAVE ANY KEY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS DENNIS THREE
FOURTEEN AND I'M THE CALIFORNIA
STATE DIRECTOR FOR DRUG POLICY
ALLIANCE- I AM TO TESTIFY AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO SENATE
BILL TWO THIRTY SEVEN BY CENTER
GROVE WHICH WOULD INCREASE THAT
NO. SENTENCE ENHANCEMENTS FOR
FENTANYL DPA IS A NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION PROMOTING DRUG
POLICIES GROUNDED IN SCIENCE
COMPASSION HEALTH AND HUMAN
RIGHTS. WHILE WE CLEARLY
UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO ADDRESS
THE OVERDOSE CRISIS AND ASSUME
THE BEST INTENTIONS OF THE
AUTHOR AND CLEARLY EMPATHIZE
WITH THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED
ONES AND THEIR CHILDREN TO THIS
OVERDOSE CRISIS- WE KNOW THAT
FURTHER CRIMINALIZATION WILL
EXACERBATE. THE OVERDOSE CRISIS
INSTEAD OF REDUCING THE
AVAILABILITY OF THIS DEADLY DRUG
AND WE AND WE TOTALLY EMPATHIZE
WITH WITH- WITH THOSE AGAIN THAT
THAT HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE.
HOWEVER THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
NONE THAT LONGER SENTENCES WILL
RESULT IN LESS DRUGS THE U. S.
WAGED A QUOTE. WAR ON DRUGS AND
COLD FOR OVER FIFTY YEARS WITH
THE PRIMARY TOOL BEING LONGER
AND LONGER SENTENCES AND DURING
THAT TIME HE LEGAL DRUGS BECAME
CHEAPER AND MORE POTENT AND MORE
WIDELY AVAILABLE THAN EVER. THE
INTRODUCTION OF SENTINEL ON THE
WEST COAST IS A DIRECT BY
PRODUCT OF THE WAR ON DRUGS. IT
HAS BEEN CAREFULLY RESEARCH AND
THE VERDICT IS IN LONGER.
SENTENCES DO NOT WORK. THEY
DON'T CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF DRUGS
BEING INTRODUCED TRAFFIC OR SOLD
IF ANYTHING EACH CRACKDOWN.
LEADS TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEALTH
DISASTER. UNDER CURRENT STATE
LAW POSSESSION OF ANY AMOUNT OF
FENTANYL ALREADY HAS A SENTENCE
ENHANCEMENT OF TWO THREE OR FOUR
YEARS. FOR SELLING FENTANYL OR
GIVING IT AWAY OR TRANSPORTATION
FOR SALE. SOMEONE CURRENTLY
FACES THREE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS
OF ENHANCEMENT AND FOR
TRANSPORTING TO TWO NON
CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES SUCH AS-
FROM SAN FRANCISCO TO SACRAMENTO
THE PENALTIES ARE THREE SIX OR
NINE YEARS SO YOU SEE WE ALREADY
HAVE LONG SENTENCES. FOR
POSSESSION OF A SMALL AMOUNT OF
FEDERAL FOR SALE. INCREASED
SPENDING ON LOCKING UP MORE
PEOPLE WILL NOT CHANGE THE
REALITIES OF DRUGS BEING
STRUGGLED AND PURCHASED. BY
PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND
FORTUNATELY WHAT WE NEED IS
BETTER EDUCATE OVERALL EDUCATION
INCLUDING DRUG EDUCATION FOR
PARENTS AND YOUTH. THAT IS
GROUNDED IN REALITY BASED DRUG
EDUCATION. BETTER AND EASIER
ACCESS TO EFFECTIVE DRUG
TREATMENT SUCH AS TREATMENT ON
DEMAND. AND EFFECTIVE HARM
REDUCTION STRATEGIES AIMED AT
KEEPING PEOPLE ALIVE UNTIL THEY
ARE READY TO STOP USING OR READY
TO START TREATMENT. AND OF
COURSE THERE IS THE DIFFICULT
JOB OF ADDRESSING POVERTY WHICH
IS A MAJOR MOTIVATOR FOR SELLING
DRUGS WHICH INCLUDES PROVIDING
STRONG SOCIAL SUPPORTS. LIKE
EDUCATION JOB TRAINING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HEALTH
CARE FOR ALL THESE REASONS ABOVE
UP ABOVE WE RESPECTFULLY URGE
YOU TO VOTE ON SENATE BILL TWO
THIRTY SEVEN THANK YOU. THANK
YOU MAY. DO WE HAVE ANY.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS.
OF COMICAL **** ON BEHALF OF
ACLU CALIFORNIA ACTION AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION SENATE
BILL TWO THIRTY SEVEN. WHILE OUR
HEARTS GO OUT TO THOSE WHO HAVE
LOST LOVED ONES. AND WE AND WE
SHARE THE AUTHORS GOAL OF
REDUCING FENTANYL OVERDOSES
WE'RE IN A POSITION BECAUSE AS
MY COLLEAGUE JUST EXPLAINED. THE
LARGE BODY OF SCIENTIFIC
EVIDENCE HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT
SENATE BILL TWO THIRTY SEVEN
WILL NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.
AND CONSERVATION OF PEOPLE WHO
SELL DRUGS JUST DOES NOT HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT DETERRENT EFFECT ON
DRUG USE. CALIFORNIA'S OWN THREE
STRIKES LAW HAS FOUND HAVE BEEN
FOUND TO HAVE NEITHER HAD AN
INCAPACITATION NOR DETERRENT
EFFECT ON DRUG OFFENSES. THIS
MAKES SENSE CONSIDERING MANY
SWEPT INTO THE CREEK CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM UNDER DRUG LAWS ARE
DRUG USERS THEMSELVES. THE
REPEATED USE OF ADDICTIVE DRUGS
EVENTUALLY CHANGES HOW THE BRAIN
FUNCTIONS THESE RANGE CHANGES
AFFECT NATURAL INHIBITION AND
REWARD CENTERS THAT BECAUSE- THE
PERSON ADDED TO USE DRUGS IN
SPITE OF THE ADVERSE HEALTH
SOCIAL AND- CRIMINAL LEGAL
CONSEQUENCES. AN ADDICT'S
ABILITY TO EXERT SELF CONTROL
AND MAKE SOUND DECISIONS IS
OFTEN SERIOUSLY IMPAIRED BECAUSE
THE BRAIN HAS BECOME IMPAIRED.
SENATE BILL TWO THIRTY SEVEN
DOES NOT OFFER TREATMENT IT
FOCUSES SOLELY ON PUNISHMENT AND
APPROACH THAT HAS FAILED MANY
TIMES OVER RESULTING ONLY AND
RACIALIZED INCARCERATION. WHAT
CALIFORNIANS DESERVE IS
ACCESSIBLE RELIABLE AND
EQUITABLE TREATMENT NOT
INCARCERATION AFTER ALL
INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO RECOVER
FROM ADDICTION TO DRUGS. WE NEED
SHELTERS THEY NEED MEDICAL CARE
THEY NEED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
AND TREATMENT ANY VOCATIONAL
REHABILITATION AND ACCESS TO
HIGHER EDUCATION INCARCERATION
CALIFORNIA IS A SIX FIGURE.
ANNUAL EXPENDITURE HER. PER YEAR
STATE. ACCORDING TO NATIONAL FOR
CHEN ABUSE TO. THE AVERAGE ON
THE OTHER HAND THE TREE TO PAY
PERCEPTIONS OF DISORDERS IN
CALIFORNIA JUST UNDER FIFTY
SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IT IS OUR
COLLECTIVE GOAL TO ADDRESS THE
DEMAND FOR DRUGS WHICH IS THE
ONLY WAY TO STIFLE THE MIAMI. WE
MUST MAKE TREATMENT AVAILABLE
YOU'VE REACHED A TWO MINUTE MARK
I APOLOGIZE. TO YOU IF YOU
WOULDN'T MIND CLOSING UP
ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU SENATOR-
BECAUSE SENATE BILL TWO THIRTY
SEVEN TAKES THE WRONG APPROACH
OF MONOPOLIZING SCARES ME A
DOLLARS TO FUND FURTHER POLICING
PROSECUTION AND PUNISHMENT. IT
TAKES THE WRONG POLICY APPROACH
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
NOTEBOOK THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MA'AM WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. HERE IN
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. THANK
CLIMB BACK AS FOR A BIGGER SAY
FOR HUMAN AND ALL. LESLIE
CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE IN OPPOSITION. JOSH TO
THE BAY- WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ATTORNEYS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
. C. NINE- MADAME MODERATOR.
YEAH. PHOTO MATTER MODERATOR.
YES PERFECT THANK YOU I WILL NOW
MEET MOVE WITNESSES IN THE
TELECONFERENCE- IF YOU WOULDN'T
MIND IT PROMPTING LET'S SEE HERE
. YES SO WHAT ARE YOU TO MOVE ON
TO THE WITNESSES WAITING TO
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ARTISTS PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR
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PLEASE AND WILL BE TAKING BOTH
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OPPOSITION. TO PROVIDE COMMENTS
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR S.
B. TWO THREE SEVEN PLEASE PRESS
ONE THEN THERE ARE. ONE MOMENT
PLEASE.
NINE ONE TWO ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. ONE TWO ONE.
ONE TWO ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THERE WAS. ONE TWO ONE YOUR LINE
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. THANK YOU HI MY NAME IS WILL
LEADERS AS WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES IN SUPPORT OF
S. B. TWO THREE SEVEN THANK YOU
. THE THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU
MADAM MODERATOR IF YOU WOULDN'T
MIND- PLEASE CHECK THE PLANES
ONE MORE TIME WHEN TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE- WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO ANY
SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WITNESSES
ON THE LINE. CORRECT PROVIDE
COMMENTED SUPPORT FOR OPPOSITION
FOR S. B. TWO THREE SEVEN PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN. ZERO
NO ONE HAS QUEUED UP AT THIS
TIME THANK YOU MADAM MODERATOR
AND THANK YOU TO ALL OUR SUPPORT
IN OUR OPPOSITION WITNESSES THAT
CAME HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY WILL
NOW BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO
OUR MEMBERS ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT THAT I GET
ALL THE TIME FOR ALL MY MEMBERS
SO I WON'T EXCEED TEN MINUTES TO
TWO MINUTES FOR PER MEMBER
MYSELF. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND
I AND I WANT TO FACILITATE THE
CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT MORE-
AND TAKE THE LIBERTY TO DO THAT-
I HAVE A QUESTION- AND I
UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION'S-
REGARD TO WHY. ADDITIONAL TIME-
INCARCERATED WOULD NOT BE
HELPFUL I'M I'M GOING TO GIVE
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S M. AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON WHY IT
IS NEEDED WHAT THE EXPERIENCES
ARE IN THE FIELD THAT YOU
BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY
SOMETHING THAT YOU FOLKS NEED IN
THE TOOLBOX IN ADDRESSING
FENTANYL. CRISIS THANK YOU MADAM
SAID A SENATOR THE ISSUE HERE
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO SOME OF
THE OPPOSITION IS THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ARE TRANSPORTING
IN MANUFACTURING AND SELLING.
FENTON ALL TO THE YOUTH AND TO
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING FROM
IT AND ARE BECOMING ADDICTED TO
IT ARE NOT ARE NOT PATHETIC
USERS THEY ARE NOT JUST PEOPLE
WHO ARE ADDICTED TO THAT IS TO
IT THEMSELVES AND THIS IS A
MULTI MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS
THAT THESE DRUG TRAFFICKERS
HAVE. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE A
PART OF THESE THESE HUGE
OPERATIONS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
WERE TARGETING WE ARE NOT
LOOKING AS PROSECUTORS TO THROW
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF
TREATMENT IN PRISONS OR JAILS WE
ARE SO STRAPPED AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL FOUR BEDS IN OUR LOCAL
JAILS. BECAUSE OF AB ONE OH NINE
AND ELEVEN SEVENTY EIGHT SHE
DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW US TO SEND
TO PEOPLE WHO TRAFFIC AND SELL
DRUGS. TO STATE PRISON THESE ARE
ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING LOCAL
TIME TO AS PROSECUTORS EVERY
ELECTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN
THIS STATE. HAS THE OBLIGATION
AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TODAY TO
SELECT WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
WE WANT TO PROSECUTE WE HAVE A-
A STRONG VOICE IN IN. IN PLEA
BARGAINING AND WE HAVE WE MAKE
OFFERS EVERY DAY 98299% OF OUR
CASES ARE PLEA BARGAINED. AND WE
COME TO AGREEMENTS WE WORK VERY
CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC DEFENDERS
EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH PROBATION
OFFICERS WE WORK WITH COURTS TO
DETERMINE. WHAT WHAT WHO ARE THE
PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN
THESE BEDS. AND BY NOT GIVING US
THE TOOLS AND THE DISCRETION WE
ARE ALSO ELECTED. WE ARE ALSO
SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION
AND WE ARE ALSO WE ALSO ALL TRY
TO BE ETHICAL PROSECUTORS AND
THIS COMMITTEE IS VERY WELL
AWARE. THAT EVERY PROSECUTOR HAS
PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION BECAUSE
WE HAVE PROSECUTORS ALL OVER THE
STATE WHO ARE CHOOSING NOT TO
IMPLEMENT LAWS WE HAVE A
GOVERNOR WHO IS NOT. WHO'S PUT A
MORATORIUM ON THE DEATH PENALTY
WHEN THE VOTERS FOR FORGET EVERY
ELECTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY
WHETHER THEY BELIEVE IN THE
DEATH PENALTY OR THEY DON'T. BUT
THE VOTERS OF THE STATE HAVE
SAID THAT THEY DO SO WE HAVE A
PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION. TO
DECIDE WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
WE WANT TO PUT IN THESE BEDS AND
WHEN WE HAVE A CASE. THAT COMES
ALONG WHERE WE HAVE A FENTANYL
DEALER WHO IS DEALING IN MASS
QUANTITIES AND IS SELLING DRUGS
TO PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE
DYING. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT
DISCRETION AND THIS IS THE TYPE
OF BILL THAT WILL SEND A MESSAGE
TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE SELLING
AND TRANSPORTING AND- AND
BRINGING THIS. POISON INTO OUR
COMMUNITY THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES
THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE
MY QUESTION TO THE OPPOSITION
IS. IF INCARCERATION IS THE LAST
TOOL THAT WE USE AS PROSECUTORS
WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
ADDICTED AND WE KNOW THAT THEY
ARE SIMPLY JUST ADDICTS. TRYING
TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN HABIT THOSE
ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT WE
CHOOSE TO PUT IN THESE BEDS.
THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT WE
CHOOSE. TO IMPLEMENT THESE THESE
CHARGES ON. AND SO I ASK YOU.
WHAT IS THE ANSWER. RIGHT
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROGRAM
SOMEONE WHO IS NOT AN ADDICT.
YOU CANNOT YOU CANNOT PROGRAM
SOMEBODY WHO CHOOSES THEIR
ENTERPRISE AND WHO CHOOSES THEIR
BUSINESS. TO BE THAT OF SELLING
DRUGS AT THE COST OF LIVES. AND
I AND I AND I AND I CRINGE
SOMETIMES BECAUSE I AM THE
MOTHER OF AN ADOPTED BLACK SON
AYE. I AM THE MOTHER OF A BLACK
CHILD. AND SO WHEN I HEAR THE
BROWN AND BLACK ARGUMENT THAT
IT'S ALWAYS JUST INCARCERATING
BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE. THERE
ARE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE DYING
OF FENTANYL OVERDOSES EVERY
SINGLE DAY. EVERY SINGLE DAY
FEDERAL DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE.
IT DOES NOT JUST KILL. RICH
WHITE KIDS THERE ARE HISPANIC
KIDS AND BLACK KIDS DYING EVERY
DAY FROM THIS DRUG. AND THIS
GIVES US THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED.
TO SEND A MESSAGE TO PEOPLE TO
SAY HEY IF YOU ARE GOING TO
ENGAGE IN THIS CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISE. THEN YOU ARE GOING
TO HAVE CONSEQUENCES. NO
CLAPPING IN THE INDIA. HEARING
IN THE HEARING ROOM UPSTAIRS WAS
A COURTROOM HEARING RAMS- THANK
YOU VERY MUCH YOUR TESTIMONY-
CENTER BREF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
ANY COMMENTS. NOT NOTHING MORE
GOOD. ALL RIGHTY- SENATOR. AT
GROVE WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR- YOU HEARD
WHAT THE MOST. INCREDIBLE
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA SPEAK ABOUT. I
MEAN SHE'S SHE'S PRETTY. SHE'S
PRETTY TOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT OF CRIME
BUT SHE HAS THE BIGGEST HEART.
TO MAKE SURE THAT IN EVERY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY WITH
PROSECUTORS- PROSECUTORIAL. AND
DISCRETION. I BELIEVE EXACTLY
WHAT SHE SAYS SHE DOESN'T WANT
TO PROSECUTE THE- KID DOWN THE
STREET THAT'S ADDICTED TO DRUGS
AND YOU KNOW GIVES HIS FRIEND OF
A PILLAR THAT SELLS A PILL OR
WHATEVER IT IS. THIS ENTERPRISES
COMING ACROSS THE BORDER THAT
SCREEN MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AT THE DEATH OF
CALIFORNIA CHILDREN AND
CALIFORNIA'S CITIZENS REGARDLESS
OF COLOUR. IS MAKING MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS POSSIBLY BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS ON THE DEATH OF THESE
PEOPLE. AGAIN THE GOVERNOR'S OWN
REPORT SAYS THAT THERE'S NOTHIN
ALL COMING ACROSS THE BORDER TO
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO KILL
EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD. TWICE
TWICE. SO THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE
PROSECUTED FOR MURDER BECAUSE
THEY'RE INTENDING WHEN THEY SELL
THEY KNOW THESE PILLS ONE
KILLING YOUR DAD RIGHT ONE PILL.
IN SO THESE INDIVIDUALS KNOW
THAT WHEN THEY SELL THIS PRODUCT
OR THEY DISTRIBUTE THIS PRODUCT
FOR THE TRANSPORT THIS PRODUCT.
THEY KNOW THAT FATALITIES ARE
COMING. IN TO SAY THAT WE- ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE KID DOWN THE
STREET THAT YOU KNOW IS BIG
BROTHER GIVES AND WE DID ISSUE
BAKERSFIELD WITH THE BIG BROTHER
FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIVE A TWELVE
YEAR OLD. AND SOME DENTAL BILLS
THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN
PROSECUTING THE FIFTEEN YEAR OLD
OR THAT OR THE TWELVE YEAR OLD
THE GOING AFTER CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISES THAT ARE PURPOSELY.
DISTRIBUTING AND TRANSPORTING
THIS PRODUCT TO KILL CALIFORNIA
CHILDREN AND CALIFORNIA CITIZENS
AND PEOPLE THAT RESIDE IN THE
STATE. AND I AGREE WITH WHAT THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAYS IF YOU
DIVE INTO THE STATISTICS BLACK
AND BROWN CHILDREN AND ADULTS
ARE DYING JUST AS FAST OR FASTER
FROM SENTINEL THAN THEIR WHITE
COUNTERPARTS THIS IS NOT A
RACIAL ISSUE FENTON ALL DOES NOT
LOOK AT THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.
SENTINEL IS KILLING PEOPLE EVERY
SINGLE DAY. FIVE THOUSAND WAS A
NUMBER FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN
HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO PEOPLE.
DIED IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE
BECAUSE OF INTERNAL. AND NOT ONE
SENTINEL BILL HAS GOTTEN OUT OF
THIS COMMITTEE. TO ARREST OR
PROSECUTE THESE PERPETRATORS
THAT ARE COMMITTING THESE
HORRIFIC CRIMES. AND I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH US
SENATOR GROVE- AND SENATOR
BRADFORD WOULD YOU CARE TO DO A
COURTESY MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL
. THANK YOU SENATOR BRADFORD-
NINE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. SB TWO THIRTY SEVEN GROW
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS BOB. HERTZBERG
AYE TOWBOAT AYE BRADFORD.
SKINNER WIENER. WE'LL CALL THE-
WILL LEAVE THE BILL ON ROLL CALL
FOR OUR ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU
SENATOR GROWTH. AND WE DO HAVE A
SECOND BILL- SB THREE TWENTY
FIVE CENTER GROVE ARE YOU READY
TO PRESENT YES MA'AM THANK YOU
VERY MUCH THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
HEAD TODAY I CAME HERE TO
PRESENT SB THREE TWENTY FIVE
WOULD WHICH WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL
PENALTIES FOR BUYING AND SELLING
TRANSPORTING WITH INTENT TO
DISTRIBUTE RAINBOW FENTON ALL.
STARTED SPECIFICALLY AT OUR
CHILDREN IS DIFFERENT THAN THE
PREVIOUS BILL THE PREVIOUS BILLS
ON A HAND SUMMONS FOR INTERNAL
IN GENERAL THIS IS RAINBOW FOR
INFANTS AND ALL THAT LOOKS LIKE
SMARTIES OR CANDY SPECIFICALLY
DESIGNED AND CREATED A
MANUFACTURED TO SELL TO OUR
CHILDREN. SOMEONE WHO BUYS SELLS
AND TRANSPORTS FENTANYL WITH THE
INTENT TO DISTRIBUTE LIKE I SAID
EARLIER IS COMMITTING MURDER
THEY KNOW THAT THESE BILLS ARE
GOING TO KILL THE PEOPLE WHOEVER
IN WHO ARE IN AND TAKING THEM
ONE PILL CAN KILL IN THESE
PERPETRATORS ARE BUYING SELLING
AND TRANSPORTING HUNDREDS OF
PILLS DISGUISED AS CANDY. TO
PURPOSELY GO AFTER OUR CHILDREN.
AS A STATE POLICY AS STATE
POLICY CONTINUES TO MINIMIZE THE
IMPACT OF FEDERAL CRISIS DRUG
DEALERS AND CARTEL MEMBERS ARE
FOUND A NEW WAY TO GET MORE
CLIENTS. AT THE DEADLY COST OF
OUR KIDS. I KNOW WAS A MEMBER AT
THIS I KNOW AS MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE YOU'VE HEARD THIS
BEFORE. BUT BRIGHTLY COLORED
SENTINEL IN THESE ARE ACTUALLY
OF POSTERS PICTURES. NEONATE AND
- PRIVATE. ENFORCEMENT PROVIDED
TO ASK. SO AS A PAUL CAN TO
MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO FIT ON.
TO DEALERS CARTEL MEMBERS FOUND
A NEW WAY TO AGAIN REACH OUR
KIDS. I KNOW MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE THAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS
BEFORE THESE BRIGHTLY COLORED
FIT NOT PILLS ALSO KNOWN AS
RAINBOW. SENTINEL HAS BEEN FOUND
IN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS
INCLUDING PILLS POWDERS AND
CANDIES. WITH THE VIBRANT COLORS
IN CANDY LIKE SHAPES. IT IS
BECOME MORE OF A METHOD FOR
DEALERS TO SELL HIGHLY ADDICTIVE
FENTANYL AND POISON TO OUR
CHILDREN. RAINBOW FENTON ALL
TRICKS THEM INTO THINKING THAT
THEY'RE EATING CANDY OR TAKING
ONE TYPE THE BILL WHEN IN
REALITY. ONE PILL CAN KILL THEM.
NUMEROUS SPENT NOT RELATED BILLS
HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO HELP PUT
AN END TO THIS CRISIS BUT MOST
HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE. WHY IS THAT WHY IS IT
THAT FIT NOT BILLS CANNOT GET
OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE WHEN
EVERYONE OF OUR DISTRICTS THAT
WE SERVE. PEOPLE ARE DYING.
AWARENESS BILLS HAVE PASSED A
TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO STAY AWAY
FROM OF BILL YOU KNOW FIT NOW
HAS PASSED EDUCATION BILLS HAVE
PASSED. TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO
USE NOR CAN IS PASSED IN CASE OF
AN OVERDOSE BUT THERE'S NO
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR DRUG DEALERS
AND PROFITEERS MAKING THIS
POISON- THAT IS DISSEMINATING TO
OUR CITIES IN KILLING CALIFORNIA
CHILDREN. AS MUCH AS THERE NEEDS
TO BE RESOURCES FOR THIS
DANGEROUS DRUG THERE ALSO NEEDS
TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE
WHO BY SELLING TRANSPORT WITH
THE INTENT TO DISTRIBUTE.
FENTANYL TO OUR CHILDREN. WE'VE
ALL BEEN FOCUSING ON TEACHING
YOUNG PEOPLE HOW TO SAVE THEIR
FRIENDS LIFE INSTEAD OF KEEPING
THIS DRUG FROM GETTING INTO THEM
IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND TO MAKE
MATTERS WORSE CHILDREN ARE BEING
TARGETED THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.
PREVIOUS BILL THE MOTHER OF A AT
INDIVIDUALS ACCU PASSED AWAY BE
OR WAS KILLED BECAUSE OF THE
VIETNAM BILL GOT HIS BILL ON
SNAPCHAT. INSTAGRAM USED TO BE
AN APP WHERE YOU WOULD PUT A
NICE PHOTO UP OF YOUR DINNER
WHAT YOU'RE EATING IS A MEAL OR
A PICTURE OF THE SUNSET.
SNAPCHAT WAS ENDING A SILLY
PICTURE OF YOURSELF TO YOUR
FRIENDS THESE TWO PLATFORMS
ALONG WITH OTHERS ARE NOW BEING
USED TO SELL DRUGS TO MINORS
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT. MINERS DO
NOT READ THE NEWSPAPER THEY
DON'T GO- TWO EVENTS YOU KNOW
AND THINGS THAT- PROMOTE
DIFFERENT THINGS ON YOU KNOW-
FLYERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT
THEY'RE USING SNAPCHAT AND
INSTAGRAM IN ORDER TO OBTAIN
THESE DRAGS. THESE TWO PLATFORMS
ALONG WITH OTHERS ARE BEING USED
TO SELL THE DRUGS TO MINORS. A
COUPLE OF EXAMPLES ALEXANDER
NEVER WENT TO HIS PARENTS ASKING
FOR THEIR HELP AFTER HE'D ADDICT
HE WAS ADDICTED TO OXYCONTIN
PILLS. AND HE BOUGHT THE BOTTOM
FOR SNAPCHAT HE'S THEN OVERDOSED
WITH THE PILL LACED WITH
FENTANYL THE VERY SAME NIGHT HE
WAS FOURTEEN YEARS OLD. GRIFFIN
HOFFMAN AND LIBYA COLEMAN
SEVENTEEN AND SIXTEEN YEARS OLD
WORK FRIENDS THEY DIDN'T RUN IN
THE SAME CIRCLES BUT WENT TO THE
SAME HIGH SCHOOL. THEY DIED LESS
THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS. APART
DUE TO A FENTANYL OVERDOSE. A
LIVE YOU TOLD HER PARENTS ABOUT
THE ACTION. AND ABOUT IN A DAY
HER ADDICTION IN THE PAST AND
SHE SHARED WITH THEM THAT SHE
HAD BOUGHT PILLS OFF OF
SNAPCHAT. AND THE SELLER
ACTUALLY DROVE TO HER HOUSE AND
INTO HER DRIVEWAY TO DELIVER THE
PILLS. SNAPCHAT IS WHERE THIS
YOUNG WOMAN GOT THESE PILLS.
DRUG DEALERS ARE LITERALLY USING
SNAPCHAT PROMOTED FROM. LIKE
ADORED ASH- TO SELL PILLS TO
TEENAGERS. THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BACK PAGE
WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY HAD A
PROBLEM WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING
SO SH SNAPCHAT AND INSTAGRAM.
LIKE I SAID- LAU IN THESE
INDIVIDUALS THESE PERPETRATORS
THESE PROFITEERS THESE. CARTEL
RUN ORGANIZATION MAKING MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS ON THE DEATH OF OUR
CHILDREN. ARE USING SNAPCHAT AND
OTHER PLATFORMS IN ORDER TO
ENGAGE OUR TO OUR CHILDREN.
GRIFFIN TEXAS WHAT HE THOUGHT
WAS A PERCOCET PILL FROM A
FRIEND AND IT COST HIM HIS LIFE
DEALERS AND SELLERS KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO THESE
KIDS. CLARK JACKSON'S SELF
SOVEREIGN BOUGHT PILLS OFF THE
INSTAGRAM AND THE SELLER TOLD
HIM TO ONLY TAKE HALF OF THE
PILL BECAUSE QUOTE. THIS IS
STAFF IS STRONG AS HELL. ALL OF
THESE VICTIMS- HAVE ONE THING IN
COMMON THEY WERE ALL THEY ALL
THOUGHT THEY WERE TAKING
SOMETHING ELSE. IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR
FENTANYL RELATED OVERDOSES AMONG
TEENS FROM FOURTEEN YEARS TO
NINETEEN YEARS OLD. DIED IN
CALIFORNIA. THAT'S THE ISSUE OF
THE ENTIRE THAT IS THE SIZE OF
THE ENTIRE ENTIRE RULE. A HIGH
SCHOOL POPULATION. AND
CALIFORNIA'S WELL INTENTIONED
HAD TENSION FELT NOT EDUCATION
EFFORTS AREN'T SAVING THEM WE'RE
NOT LOCKING THESE INDIVIDUALS AT
THAT ARE BRINGING THIS STUFF
ACROSS THE BORDER IN BRINGING
THEM TO OUR COMMUNITIES. DEALERS
AND SELLERS AND TRAFFICKERS ARE
PURPOSELY MAKING RAINBOW FIT NOT
RAINBOW FENNEL TO LOOK
DIFFERENT. AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE
CANDIES AND PILLS TO MARKET
TOWARD CHILDREN IN ENOUGH AND IT
IS ENOUGH. TODAY I'M FOR TO
TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF THIS BILL
IS LIEUTENANT MICHAEL GALLARDO.
THE COMMANDER OF THE ALAMEDA
COUNTY NARCOTICS TASK FORCE
WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL NARCOTICS TASK FORCE
IN CALIFORNIA AND PAMELA SMITH
FROM PAIN PARENTS AND ADDICTS IN
NEED. TO SHARE HER STORY ABOUT
THE LOSS OF HER BEAUTIFUL SON
JACKSON FROM AN OVERDOSE FROM
APPEAL THAT WAS LACED WITH
FENTANYL. GREETING SENATOR.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS GREAT
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. HI MY NAME
IS MICHAEL GLOW FROM WITHIN WITH
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. LAW
ENFORCEMENT FOR TWENTY FIVE
YEARS ALMOST HALF OF THAT HAS
BEEN WITH NARCOTICS
INVESTIGATIONS. FROM LAST ALMOST
FOUR YEARS HAVE BEEN THE
COMMANDER OF THE ALAMEDA COUNTY
NARCOTICS TASK FORCE. I WORK IN
THE EPICENTER FEDERAL
CONSUMPTION AND DISTRIBUTION
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. WHICH IS
THE BAY AREA. WE SEE ALL FORMS
OF FEDERAL TO INCLUDE COLORED
POWDER FENNEL AND COLORED FENNEL
PILLS AND THESE BILLS LOOK LIKE
CANDY. FROM HAVE COMMUNICATED
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ALL THE
IN AND AROUND ALL THE VOTING
DISTRICTS FOR ALL THE MEMBERS
ARE. THE ONES THAT AREN'T HERE-
AND UNANIMOUSLY THE ALL
UNANIMOUS HE SAID THAT THE COURT
FINAL POLLS ARE IN THEIR VOTING
DISTRICTS- THEY'RE AND THEY'RE
BEING CONSUMED. ALL RIGHT DOWN
THE ROAD FROM HERE'S WHERE THESE
PICTURES CAME FROM TRIED AND
TEST FORCE. IN PLASTER COUNTY.
NOT ONLY DID THEY HAVE THESE
PILLS BUT THESE BILLS WERE
TREATED WITH AROMATICS TO SMELL
LIKE CANDY- GRAPE STRAWBERRY
FRUIT FLAVORED. AND THERE'S ONLY
ONE REASON YOU DO THAT. OF THE
LISTED TRADE IS ESTIMATED TO
MAKE BETWEEN FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY
SIX AND SIX R. FIFTY TWO BILLION
DOLLARS WITH THE B. EVERY YEAR
AND THAT WAS IN TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN. IN TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY. FROM THE AMERICAN
TOBACCO COMPANIES ARE ESTIMATED
TO MAKE NINETY BILLION NINE ZERO
- WITH THE PANDEMIC ALL
CONSUMPTION AND PRICES HAVE GONE
THROUGH THE ROOF. NATIONALLY AS
WELL AS IN CALIFORNIA OVERDOSE
RESPONSES IN OVERDOSE DEATHS FOR
ADULTS AS WELL AS CHINESE
CHILDREN CONTINUE TO RISE- LIKE
TOBACCO COMPANIES THESE LISTEN
ARCONIC'S TRAFFICKERS. ARE
DRIVEN SOLELY BY PROFIT. THEY
ARE DESIGNING AND- THESE PILLS
AND TARGETING OUR CHILDREN
THROUGH THE DISH OF THESE
FLAVORS COLORS AND AROMAS. AND
THAT'S SOLELY TO INCREASE OUR
TRIP PROFIT MARGINS. THEY DON'T
USUALLY DOESN'T NEED THESE
ENTICEMENTS THE- THEY WANT THE
DRUG AND NOTHING ELSE THEY DON'T
NEED TO BE LURED INTO IT- OUR
YOUTH NOW HAVE SMARTPHONES WHICH
THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE
CAN PAY. AND COORDINATE THESE
DRUG DEALS UNDER THE GUISE OF
ALL THE ADULTS IN THEIR LIFE
TEACHERS PARENTS YOU NAME IT-
TODAY I AM ASKING FOR THE SAME
COURAGE- THAT. THE MEMBERS THAT
ARE HERE HAD INTO TWELVE TWO
THOUSAND TWENTY WHEN THEY TOOK
ON BIG TOBACCO. SB SEVEN NINETY
THREE WHAT'S OF WHICH WAS
DESIGNED TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN
FROM TOBACCO. HOUSE GREAT
MEASURE. HOWEVER TOBACCO ISN'T
KILLING OUR KIDS LIKE FINALE AS-
SO I WAS HOPING. THAT THEY WOULD
HAVE THE SAME COURAGE TO TAKE ON
THESE COLOR FEDERAL POLLS WHICH
ARE TARGETING OUR KIDS. AS THEY
DID BACK THEN- THIS IS GOING TO
MAKE THINGS WORSE- AND IT'S LIKE
I SAID RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVEN'T. WE HAVE ONE MORE.
THANK YOU SENATOR GROWN FOR
INVITING ME TODAY. MY NAME IS
PAMELA SMITH. AND I'M FROM
FRESNO. MMHM MY PERSONAL
CONNECTION TO FUNCTIONAL IS THAT
MY SON JACKSON SMITH. DIED FROM
ONE TILL. ON JULY THIRD TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN. AT THE AGE OF
TWENTY TWO. I GOT THE CALL. IN
THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF JULY
THIRD. THAT THE PERSON THAT WAS
WITH HIM SHE TOLD ME THAT HE
WASN'T BREATHING AND SHE CALLED
. NINE ONE ONE. SO I RUSHED TO
THE LOCAL HOSPITAL. AND I MET
WITH THE E. ART DR. AND HE TOLD
ME. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON HIM.
FOR ABOUT AN- AND THERE'S
NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO. HE ASKED
ME IF I WANTED TO SEE MY SON AND
OF COURSE I SAID YES SO HE-
ESCORTED ME INTO. TRAUMA ROOM
ONE. IT'S THAT ROOM THAT YOU SEE
ON TV WITH ALL OF THE MACHINES
AND THIS ROOM WAS FILLED WITH
DOCTORS AND NURSES. AIRLAND
THERE WAS A VERY LARGE MALE
NURSE STRONGLY MY SON GIVING HIM
CHEST COMPRESSIONS. TRYING TO
SAVE HIS LIFE. BUT WITHIN
SECONDS OF ME ENTERING THIS ROOM
. THE DOCTOR SAID. TIME OF DEATH
. THREE EIGHTEEN. SINCE
JACKSON'S DEATH I HAVE MADE IT
MY MISSION. TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON
THE OPIOID AND FINANCIAL CRISIS
. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO
AS LONG. AS I HAVE BREATH. THESE
DRUG DEALERS THEY DON'T CARE OR
HOW MANY PEOPLE. THEY'RE KILLING
. THEY DO NOT CARE HOW MANY
LIVES THERE DESTROYING. WE MUST
COME TOGETHER. IT WILL WORK OUT
THESE ISSUES. BECAUSE THIS
RAINBOW FENTON ALL THAT'S OUT ON
THE STREET IS OBVIOUSLY MARKETED
TO YOUNG PEOPLE FOR TWO REASONS
I WANTED TO GET THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE ADDICTED. SO THEY CAN
BECOME REPEAT. CUSTOMERS ADD TO
PROFIT OFF OF THEIR BACKS. HOW
MANY MORE. PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE.
RIGHT FROM THIS CRISIS BEFORE.
WE GET SOME COOPERATION. WE'VE
GOT TO PUT THESE PEOPLE ONLINE
FOR A VERY LONG TIME BECAUSE
THAT IS WHAT THEY DESERVE. WE
ARE LOSING A GENERATION. TO THE
FEDERAL CRISIS. AM I ASK BEFORE
YOU VOTE AND I'M SURE A LOT OF
YOU PROBABLY HAVE CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN AND NIECES AND
NEPHEWS. BEFORE YOU VOTE I HOPE
YOU THINK ABOUT THEM. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU MA'AM FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY WELL NOW MOVES ON TO
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB THREE
TO FIVE HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. SUSAN ARNOLD FROM THE
RIGHT TO LIFE LEAGUE WE ARE IN
SUPPORT. PERLA MENDOZA WITH
PROJECT DELAY IN FULL SUPPORT.
LARA DEAR MOTHER OF DISSECTED
HERE FOREVER SEVENTEEN IN
SUPPORT. T. HAVE KOBE IN. AGAIN
ON BEHALF OF MULTIPLE COALITIONS
THAT DEAL WITH CHILDREN FULL
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. MICHAEL
FUHRMAN FOR THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. I THINK YOU DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF SB THREE TWENTY FIVE
YOUR IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
. C. NONE WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION OF SB.
THREE TWENTY FIVE. GOOD
AFTERNOON GOING BACK ISRAEL
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. WE TRUST
THE GOOD INTENTION OF THE AUTHOR
AND CO AUTHORS AND THE CO
SPONSORS. IN EARLY OCTOBER OF
LAST YEAR TWENTY TWENTY TO THE
DA ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE THAT
THERE WAS BRIGHTLY COLORED. HI
COUNTERFEIT MEDICATIONS BRIGHTLY
COLORED PILLS THAT THE D. A. AND
THEN THE MEDIA DUBBED RAINBOW
FENTANYL. THE DA REPORTED THERE
WAS A DELIBERATE EFFORT TO
MARKET TO KIDS WITH NO EVIDENCE
WHATSOEVER TO SUPPORT THAT
ASSERTION. DEALER FROM THE DA
CAME IN EARLY OCTOBER JUST IN
TIME FOR A MEDIA FRENZY THAT
THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN
OVERDOSES AT HALLOWEEN. BECAUSE
THIS CANDY COLORED DRUG WOULD BE
GIVEN THE KIDS. THAT SURGE OF
OVERDOSES DID NOT HAPPEN. DIDN'T
HAPPEN THERE WASN'T A SURGE OF
OVERDOSES. AMONG ADULTS OR USED
RELATED TO. COLORED FENTANYL.
THAT'S WHAT CNN USA TODAY ON OUR
OWN. CALIFORNIA PUBLIC HEALTH AS
REPORTED. THIS BILL WILL ADD AN
ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS OF
PUNISHMENT IF SOMETHING. LOOKS
LIKE FOOD OR CANDY. REFLECTING
ON THE BILL THIS WEEK AND I
REALIZE THAT MANY THINGS IN MY
MEDICINE CABINET LOOK LIKE FOOD
OR LOOK LIKE CANDY TO A KID.
PEPTO BISMOL IS AN AMAZING COLOR
MOST OF THE MEDICATIONS IN MY
CABINET ARE PASTELS OR BRIGHTLY
COLORED TAKE WELL FOR EXAMPLE IS
A BEAUTIFUL BRIGHT ORANGE. I
KNOW AS A PARENT TO KEEP
MEDICATIONS OUT OF THE WAY MY
KIDS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT LOOK
LIKE CANDY TO THEM. THIS BILL
DOESN'T SAY. THAT SELLING
SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE CANDY.
AND NOT THE SELLERS PURPOSELY
TRYING TO TRICK SOMEONE. DECEIVE
THEM CONVINCE THEM THAT IT'S
CANDY BUT THE REALLY SELLING
FENTANYL DOES NOT WITH THE BUILD
. THE ONLY SAID THAT OF A PERSON
FURNISHES CELLS INTENDS. TO SELL
OR GIVES TO A PERSON A PILL THAT
IS PAYING. OR ORANGE OR YELLOW.
WE'LL GET ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS
. THAT GIVES UNDUE AND I'M JUST
LEVERAGE THE DA'S TO FORCE PLEA
DEALS. THIS ISN'T SOUND POLICY
MAKING. CURRENT PENALTIES FOR
POSSESSION FOR SALE SALE
TRANSPORTATION OR ADEQUATE. TO
DETER THOSE THAT WILL BE
DETERRED. TO THE YEAR TWO YEARS
TO NINE YEARS. AND HOLD
RESPONSIBLE THOSE WHO ARE
CONVICTED. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF
THE FEDERAL IS THE COLOR. IT'S
PAYING OR YELLOW OR BLUE. WHAT
WOULD MATTER IS IF THEY'RE
DECEIVING THE BUYER TRYING TO
SELL THEM SOMETHING WITHOUT
REVEALING THAT IT'S FENTANYL
THAT'S A DIFFERENT BILL THAN
THIS BILL THIS BILL IS ABOUT THE
COLOR OF THE MEDICATION. BY THE
WAY THOSE ARE COUNTERFEIT. AND
EIGHTIES MADE TO LOOK LIKE
MEDICINE. THANK YOU THANK YOU. I
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES HERE IN THIS ROOM.
SEEING NONE- OKAY- NO WORRIES
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES WE ARE
TIMING. HE GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. IN A GROVE.
AGAIN HERE AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL THREE
TWENTY FIVE. CONTINUE TO
APPRECIATE THE GOAL OF THE BILL
AND ALSO TO AND EXPRESS OUR
HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES FOR THOSE
WHO HAVE LOST. AND NOT NOT JUST
LOST FAMILY MEMBERS LIKE THEIR
LIVES ARE LOST BUT LOST THEIR
LIVELIHOOD WHILE THERE CONTINUE
TO BE HERE WITH US. BUT THIS IS
NOT THE POLICY APPROACH THAT
WILL KEEP OUR FAMILY MEMBERS
HERE WITH US LONGER- WE'RE IN
OPPOSITION BECAUSE THIS BILL IS
ABOUT OVER INCARCERATION AND
OVER CRIMINALIZATION. IT IS ALSO
ABOUT THE NINE THE COURT
DISCRETION TO PRONOUNCE
SENTENCES THAT ARE CONSISTENT
WITH AN INDIVIDUAL CULPABILITY.
WHICH IS INCONSISTENT BY THE WAY
THE CALIFORNIA LAW OVER THE LAST
FORTY YEARS WE SPENT TRILLIONS
OF DOLLARS ON THE FAILED AND
INEFFECTIVE WAR ON DRUGS. AND
MEANWHILE DRUG USE HAS NOT
DECLINED. I KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE
SAYING IS THAT. WE HAVE TO DO
THIS BECAUSE IT THESE ON OPIOID
EPIDEMIC IS AFFECTING PEOPLE OF
COLOR. BUT IF WE ACTUALLY CARED
ABOUT PEOPLE OF COLOR WE WOULD
TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH WHAT
WE KNOW WILL RESULT HERE IS
RACIALIZED INCARCERATION IN FACT
IN THE OFFICE DISTRICT. KERN
VALLEY STATE PRISON IS OPERATING
AT A HUNDRED AND 4% OF CAPACITY
WASCO TO STATE PRISON AT A 124%
OF CAPACITY. A DISPROPORTIONATE
NUMBER OF THOSE FOLKS ARE BLACK
AND BROWN IN LOCAL JAILS IN
FRESNO COUNTY 16% OF THE JAIL
POPULATION IS BLACK FIVE
PERCENT. OF THE GENERAL
POPULATION IS BLACK 17% OF THE
POPULATION IS WHITE OF THE JAIL
POPULATIONS LIKE 25% OF THE
GENERAL POPULATION IS WHITE I
COULD GO WANT TO TALK ABOUT KERN
COUNTY WHERE THERE IS 19% OF
THAT FOLKS IN JAIL. ARE BLACK
WHILE ONLY 5% OF THE COUNTY
POPULATION IS BLACK WE KNOW THE
OUTCOME OF LEGISLATION LIKE THIS
WE BELIEVE IT DOES NOT. SOLVE
THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S GOING
TO REMOVE IN ADDITION TO THE
RACIALIZED OUTCOMES REMOVE THE
JUDGES NINETY TO ENTER ENTER UP
THE CYCLE OF. RACIALIZED
PROSECUTION BY REMOVING THEIR
DISCRETION UNDER SECTION
THIRTEEN EIGHTY FIVE AGAIN THIS
IS INCONSISTENT AND I'LL WRAP IT
UP HERE. I JUST QUOTING THE
PENAL CODE SECTION ELEVEN
SEVENTY EIGHTY ONE THE
LEGISLATURE FINDS AND DECLARES
THAT THE PURPOSE OF SENTENCING
IF THE PUBLIC IS PUBLIC SAFETY
ACHIEVED THROUGH PUNISHMENT.
REHABILITATION AND RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE WHEN THE SAME TIME CLUED
INCARCERATION THE PURPOSE IS
BEST SERVED BY TIMES ARE
PROPORTIONATE. TO YEAH OF THE
EFFECTS. CARE ACT THINK ANY
OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME-
WHERE YOU STAND AND- YOUR
ORGANIZATION. LESLIE CALDWELL
HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION.
AND THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE. IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU HAVE. THE
FOURTEENTH BEHALF THE POLICY
ALLIANCE ALSO OPPOSITION. JOSH
WITH THE ON THE OF THE CO.
ATTORNEYS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU- IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SEEING NONE WILL MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE PLEASE
YOU STATE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION. MODERATOR IF YOU'D
PLEASE PROMPT INDIVIDUALS TO
BEGIN. YES I DON'T CARE. TO
PROVIDE COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION FOR S. B. TWO FIVE.
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN. ZERO ONCE
AGAIN TO PROVIDE COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR SB
THREE TO FIVE PLEASE PRESS ONE
VENTURA. ONE ONE FIFTEEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MEMBERS AND
SHARE MY NAME IS WILLIE
TREASURES WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES IN SUPPORT OF
THE S. P. THREE TO FIVE THANK
YOU. WE HAVE A NEW SPEAKERS YOU
WORK. ONE LEVEL TO. ONE TWO
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. AND ONE
TWO THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. ALL
RIGHT SINCE YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON- AGAIN THANK
YOU MODERATOR- AND THANK YOU TO
WITNESSES WILL NOT BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS TO
ANY OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. SENATOR
JILL VOGEL I GUESS I GET TEN
MINUTES. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT
. I AM. THANK YOU SENATOR FOR
YOUR PASSION ON WORKING IN
PUBLIC SAFETY IN BILLS THAT
PROMOTE THE HEALTH AND THE
SAFETY AS WELL AS THE PROTECTION
OF MANY OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE
WITH HER CHILDREN AND THOSE WHO
ARE BEING. TRAFFICKED HUMAN
TRAFFICKING- AND I KNOW YOUR
HEART. AS FAR AS A SENTINEL IT'S
INTERESTING BECAUSE I HEAR THE
OPPOSITION AND I WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT SIR WITH REGARDS TO THE
AB YOU KNOW THE COLORS YOU KNOW
BASED ON THE COLOR OF THE AB. AT
UNDERMINING THE COLOR OF THE OF
THE FENTANYL OF WHY THAT MAY NOT
BE AS RELEVANT OR IS IMPORTANT
BUT- IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO
THAT THE ARGUMENTS ARE-
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD HERE
IN THE LEGISLATURE WERE. IN
FLAVORED TOBACCO. AND THE IN THE
IN THE IN THE TASTE AND FLAVOUR
TOBACCO AND I'M JUST KIND OF
LIKING IT TOO THAT. I WHEN IT
COMES TO HERE ARE THE
LEGISLATURE THE BODY FELT THAT
THEY WERE TOBACCO WAS AIMED. AND
MARKETED TARGETED TOWARDS
CHILDREN. IN THIS CASE I'M
LOOKING AT THIS BILL AS AN
INTENT TO ATTRACT AND TARGET OUR
CHILDREN. WHICH ONE THING IS YOU
KNOW HAVING SOMETHING A PRODUCT
AVAILABLE FOR ADULTS TO CHOOSE
AND- THEY CAN TAKE THE RISK BUT
WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CHILDREN. I
THINK AS A SOCIETY AS A CULTURE
WE HAVE TO. BE A LITTLE MORE UP
FRONT AND PROTECTIVE IN IN THE
IN IN MARKETING AND IF ARE IF
THE LEGISLATURE FELT. THAT
FLAVORED TOBACCO WAS AN ASSAULT
ON OUR CHILDREN. THEN IT SHOULD
BE THE BODIES- ROCKETED TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE DO HAVE
ENHANCEMENTS ON SOMEONE THAT'S-
PURPOSELY. TARGETING OUR
CHILDREN. WITH COLORED AND- A
ROOM AS IT ARE RHEUMATIC OR
FLAVOR- SENTINEL SO BASED JUST
ON THAT PRINCIPLE THAT THE
LEGISLATURE BODY HAS ACTUALLY
HAS A HISTORY OF. SUPPORTING
POLICY THAT GOES AGAINST ANYONE
TARGETING OUR CHILDREN WITH.
WITH PRODUCTS SUCH AS TOBACCO I
THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE.
WITHOUT A DOUBT BE SUPPORTED BY
US IN POLICY FOR ENHANCEMENTS.
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PURPOSELY
TARGETING OUR CHILDREN- I DO
HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION- THAT IS
MY PERSONAL OPINION. ED I'M JUST
USING THE PRESIDENT'S THAT I'VE
SEEN. WHEN IT COMES TO AB.
COLORED OR FLAVORED PRODUCTS.
AIMED AT ADULTS BUT REALLY AIMED
AT CHILDREN. BUT I DO HAVE A
QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO. TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND WHY. THIS THE- I
UNDERSTAND WHERE THE OPPOSITION
IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF
ENHANCEMENTS. I'M AS A GENERAL
RULE- IN THIS BODY CULTURALLY
WHAT I WANT I WANT TO GIVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO OUR SUPPORT
WITNESSES TO EXPLAIN TO ME AND
TO THE PUBLIC INTO THE BODY. OF
THIS COMMITTEE AND ARE LEGIT AND
ARE OUR FELLOW MEMBERS- IN THE
LEGISLATURE Y. ENHANCEMENTS ARE
NECESSARY WHEN IT COMES TO
INDIVIDUALS WERE PURPOSELY
TARGETING OUR CHILDREN JUST THE
SAME WAY THAT THEY WOULD. AND
OTHER PRODUCTS SUCH AS LABOR
TOBACCO. WOULD ANYBODY. WHAT
WHAT ENHANCEMENTS TO IS THEY
OFFER A MEASURE OF DETERRENT- NO
PROBLEM CAN BE ARRESTED OUT OF-
CHRIS TO BE SEVERAL PROBLEMS
GIVEN TO THIS APPROACH THROUGH
EDUCATION REHABILITATION BUT
THERE HAS TO BE DETERRING.
CRIMINALS NO BETTER THAN LAWYERS
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND COPS THE
LAW THE INS AND OUTS WHO
PROSECUTES WHO DOESN'T WHERE
THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THINGS IN
WHERE THEY CAN'T GET AWAY WITH
THINGS- IN SOME CITIES-
PARTICULARLY. THAT ARE KIND OF
LIBERAL- THIS IS WHERE THE
PROBLEM IS THE WORST THEY KNOW
THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET
ARRESTED FOR SELLING DRUGS
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET PROSECUTED
FOR TRANSPORTING THE DRUGS INTO
THAT AREA- SO THERE'S NO
DETERRENT THERE'S NOTHING TO
SAY. DISCOURAGING THEM FROM THIS
BEHAVIOR SO THEY KEEP BRINGING
IT PEOPLE KEEP DYING- AND THAT'S
WHAT HAPPENS. SO THERE WAS AN UP
THERE WAS A TO FINISH MY THOUGHT
PROCESS- THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT
YOU FOLKS ARE COLLECTING BASED
ON THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT-
YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH REGARDS
TO FENTANYL IT I THINK IT'S
IMPERATIVE THAT. OUR MEMBERS ARE
SHOULDN'T BE PRIVY TO AND I JUST
WANT YOU TO SHARE AND I KNOW AND
I'M NOT SURE AT WHAT POINT WE
CAN SHARE- MAYBE PERHAPS AFTER
THE INVESTIGATIONS OR AFTER. THE
AB. THE COURT PROCESS BUT I
THINK THAT THAT- THAT
INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE
GATHERING FROM. THE
INVESTIGATIONS WITH REGARD TO
THE CONVERSATIONS THAT- REMODELS
ARE HAVING. WITH REGARDS AS TO
WHICH COUNTIES OR WHICH STATE
ARE EASIER TO DO BUSINESS. IN
SHOULD BE HIDE IT SHOULD BE
HEARD BY. THIS BODY BECAUSE THAT
IS EVIDENCE OF HOW. THE CRIMINAL
AB- THE CRIMINAL. PER SE CARTELS
OR THE CRIMINAL. ENTITIES THAT
ARE WORKING IN THE STATE. ARE
TAKING ADVANTAGE. OF THE
COMPASSION. AND THE GOOD WELL
THAT MANY INDIVIDUALS IN THIS
ROOM HAVE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A
BALANCE OF ACCOUNTABILITY. AND A
BALANCE OF GRACE AND COMPASSION
WHICH I ALSO HAVE. BUT I BUT I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU
FOLKS TO EXPRESS. AND PUT IT ON
RECORD WHAT SOME OF THESE
CONVERSATIONS ARE BY THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES
IN THIS STATE. I CAN GIVE YOU
ONE QUICK EXAMPLE- SO WE'VE DONE
A LOT OF INVESTIGATIONS PARKING
LONGER LARGE DRUG TRAFFICKING
ORGANIZATIONS. AND OVER THE LAST
THREE YEARS AND ABOUT THREE
MONTHS AGO- WE HEARD WHAT WAS
PROBABLY THE MOST POSITIVE
THINGS IN MY CAREER- ONE OF OUR
INFORMANTS TOLD US THAT THEY'RE
NOT DOING DEALS IN OUR AREA
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE MOVING IT OUT
BECAUSE WE'RE- TAKING
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. AND WE'RE
ARRESTING PEOPLE WERE SEIZING
THEIR NARCOTICS I MEAN THAT'S
THAT'S BASICALLY ALL YOU CAN DO
IN THOSE SITUATIONS AND YOU KEEP
WE TALK TO PEOPLE WE DEBRIEF
PEOPLE AND WE CAN GET THEM TO
TALK TO US AND FORMALLY INTEL IS
THE THINGS PUT. HIM IN STATE
PRISON THEY'RE TALKING TO EACH
OTHER IN IN THE COUNTY JAILS ARE
TALKING TO EACH OTHER THEY'RE
JUST FIGURING OUT WHO DOES WHAT
AND WHERE AND HOW AND WHY. I'M
IN ALL THESE AREAS THAT DON'T
SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT OR DON'T
SUPPORT. PROSECUTION OF PEOPLE
DOING FELONY CRIMES THAT ARE
HURTING PEOPLE THEY THEY KNOW
THAT AND THEY THEY'RE DRIVEN BY
PROFIT SO THEY DON'T CARE. BUT
IT'S THAT BALANCE OF THEM
THERE'S NO DETERRENT THERE'S
DEMAND THERE'S PROFIT TO BE MADE
THEN. WHAT'S GOING TO STOP THEM.
SO THE RISK OF PROFIT IS
ACTUALLY SUPER SEES THE- B.
PERHAPS I'M GOING TO BE
PROSECUTED PERHAPS AYE ITO AYE
MAY HAVE TO SERVE TWO OR THREE
YEARS BACK. SEIZURES ARE
PROFESSIONAL- FEDERAL DRUGS YOU
KNOW. AND THEY'RE OUT. YOU KNOW
EITHER THAT DAY OR WITHIN A DAY
OR TWO. OUT OF COUNTY JAILER.
MOST LIKELY THEY'RE GOING A LOT-
FLEE. THE STATE OR THE COUNTRY-
AND YES. THE REWARD IS HUGE WE
WILL WE'LL SEIZE HALF A MILLION
DOLLARS IN CASH FROM THEIR
APARTMENT. BUT THEY STILL HAVE
ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD A MANSION.
BACK IN THE COUNTRY THAT THEY'RE
GOING BACK TO I MEAN IT'S- IT'S
THE PROFIT MARGINS ARE HUGE.
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
ARE BEING CONSUMED JUST IN MY
AREA ALONE. A AND I TELL YOU MY
CAREER TWENTY FIVE YEARS THE
AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS THAT ARE IN
OUR AREA- IT'S SKYROCKETED- YOU
KNOW YOU'D BE VERY HAPPY A LONG
TIME AGO TO FIND A KILO OF
SOMETHING. NOW YOU WE GO TO
LOCATIONS AND THERE'S TWENTY
THIRTY PLUS KILOS OF FAT AND
ALL. EXCEPT FOR US SO IT'S- THE
DEMAND IS THERE THAT THE
SUPPLIES THERE. THE PROFIT IS
THERE THERE'S NOTHING
DISCOURAGING ANY OF THAT
BEHAVIOR. OKAY AND ONE LAST
QUESTION I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO. UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE WE'RE
REALLY FOCUSING ON DENTAL ASIDE
FROM THE FACT THAT IT. IT'S
KILLING. NORMA'S AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE IN OUR STATE. BUT THERE
WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE
EARLIER TODAY THAT IT WAS VERY
IMPORTANT. AND I AND IT WAS THE
REGARDS OF A REGULAR DRUG VERSUS
WIFE SENTINELS UNIQUELY
DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER DRUG.
AND HOW BECAUSE. DRUGS AS- WELL
. MAY I HAVE THE ATTORNEY JUST
SIX. THE HISTORY OF DRUGS IN OUR
STATE FINAL COMMENTS YES I WAS I
DON'T AND I THINK YOU THAT BUT
THERE'S NO ELSE YET I DON'T YES
I HAVE. AND THIS IS OUR TO BE
DISCUSS AND FULLY VETTED IN- THE
USE OF DRUGS. PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE
THAT WE USED IT ACROSS
GENERATIONS PEOPLE HAVE
EXPERIMENTED DIFFERENT WAYS OF
COPING WITH. WITH AB YOU KNOW
WITH EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS AND
SO FORTH WHATEVER MAYBE. BUT
YOUR DEFINITION OF DRUG USE AND
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DRUGS
THAT WE SEE IN THE PAST IN THIS
PARTICULAR HAD TO. THANK YOU
SENATOR SO IN THE CONTINUUM OF
DRUG USE HISTORICALLY WHETHER
IT'S MARIJUANA. THE COCAINE OF
THE NINETEEN EIGHTIES THE
METHAMPHETAMINE OF THE NINETEEN
NINETIES HEROIN THE OPIOID
CRISIS WHAT IT WHATEVER DRUG YOU
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THERE'S A
CONTINUUM OF USE. ABUSE AND
ADDICTION AND FOR MOST PEOPLE
THAT GO ALONG THAT CONTINUUM
THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
TIME SOME PEOPLE BECOME ADDICTED
FASTER THAN OTHERS. SOME DRUGS
ARE MORE ADDICTIVE THAN OTHERS
AND THEY DO HAVE A FASTER
CONTINUE ON BUT WHAT WE FIND
WITH FENTON ALL IT IS SO HIGHLY
ADDICTIVE FENTANYL IS A
WONDERFUL DRUG INSIDE OF
HOSPITALS. IT IS GIVEN IN
MICROGRAMS IN ORDER TO HAVE
MEDICAL PROCEDURES AND YOU PAIN
MANAGEMENT FOR CANCER TREATMENT
IT IS NEVER BEEN INTENDED TO BE.
A STREET DRUG BECAUSE IT IS SO
HIGHLY ADDICTIVE AS FIFTY TO A
HUNDRED TIMES MORE DUE TO THE
MORPHINE. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE
USING FENTANYL AND ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY ARE. MARKETING IT TO
CHILDREN WITH THE RAINBOW SO IT
LOOKS LIKE CANDY IT GETS THEM IN
ENTICES THEM MUCH LIKE THAT THE
TOBACCO DOES. IS THEY DON'T HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE
THAT CONTINUE IN AND THEY GO
LITERALLY FROM USE TO ADDICTION
OVERNIGHT. BECAUSE THEY ARE
CONSTANTLY CHASING THAT HIGH
THEIR BODY ONCE THAT THEIR BODY
NEEDS IT AND ONCE WHETHER THEY
ARE EXPOSED TO IT ACCIDENTALLY
LIKE MANY CHILDREN ARE LIKE SOME
OF THESE MOTHERS HERE WHO YOU'VE
YOU'VE HEARD THEIR STORIES IF
YOU STAYED IN THE ROOM LONG
ENOUGH TO HEAR. YOU HEAR THEIR
STORIES OF HOW THEY HAD CHILDREN
MRS DID YOUR SON WAS ON HIS WAY
TO UCLA THE THESE ARE NOT KIDS
WHO ARE. WHO HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW
**** UP THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND
THEY'VE THEY'VE HAD THIS YOU
KNOW LONG TERM DRUG ADDICTION.
SOME OF THESE KIDS IT'S
INSTANTANEOUS AND THAT'S THE
THING YOU SEE PEOPLE WANDERING
AROUND THE STREETS OF ALAMEDA
COUNTY AND SAN FRANCISCO. AND
FRESNO AND KERN AND TULARE.
COMPLETELY DISORIENTED BECAUSE
THEY ARE SO ADDICTED TO THIS
DRUG AND THERE ARE VERY FEW
PEOPLE NOW. WHO ARE USING HEROIN
AND MORE THAT THE U. USE OF
HEROIN IS GOING TO. FROM BECAUSE
FENTANYL IS SO PREVALENT IT IS
STILL AVAILABLE IT IS SO CHEAP.
IT IS SO ADDICTIVE AND PEOPLE
ARE ARE MESMERIZED BY IT AND SO
THEY ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THAT
CONTINUUM AND THEY'RE BECOMING.
LITERALLY INSTANTLY. AND VERY
QUICKLY ADDICTED TO THIS POISON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'M GLAD
FINAL COMMENT- I'M JUST WRAPPING
UP MY- THE REASON I WAS ASKING
THOSE QUESTIONS AND I WANTED TO
HAVE A RECORD. IS THAT. WE
HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH
REGARDS TO PENCIL BECAUSE WE'RE
AFRAID TO DO ANY IN HOUSE WAS
BECAUSE ACCORDING TO. IN A
RESEARCH OR DATA. THE IT STATED
THAT IT WON'T BE PREVALENT.
MINNOWS ARE HAVING DIFFERENT
CONVERSATIONS IN PRIVATE.
THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT THE FACT THAT. THEY'RE
THEY'RE WORKING AROUND THE
SYSTEM IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS
THE COMPASSIONATE APPROACH THAT.
MANY CALIFORNIANS IN
ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN THE STATE
HAVE BECAUSE OF THE BLACK AND
BROWN. DISPROPORTIONATE
REPRESENTATION IN INCARCERATION
AND THEY'RE USING THAT
COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING. TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE. AND THE POINT I
WANT TO MAKE IS THAT. WE WENT
FROM TWO YEARS AGO DISCUSSING
FENTANYL BILLS THAT. RELATED TO.
AN ACCIDENTAL POISONINGS. TO NOW
WE'VE EVOLVED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T
DONE ANYTHING AS A BODY TO
DETER. AND HAVE STRONGER
SENTENCING TO NOW MARKETING.
CHILDREN WITH FLAVORED AND
PARAMEDIC SENTINEL. IT IS
EVOLVING BEFORE OUR EYES. AND I
AM BEGGING THIS COMMITTEE TO
START SENDING A MESSAGE TO
PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF THE COMPASSION THAT PEOPLE
HAVE HEARING CALIFORNIA. AND
TARGETING FOR MONEY AND FOR
PROFIT. WE CAN DO THAT IT IS IN
THIS BODY SAYS IT'S OKAY TO DO
WITH WITH TOBACCO THEN LAUREN
BEHOLD WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES WITH
RENTAL BECAUSE IT IS UNIQUELY
DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING WE'VE
EVER EVER SEEN. AND I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS MEASURE FORWARD AT NIGHT WE
HOP TO MOVE THIS MEASURE QUINCY
APPROPRIATE TIME COMES THANK YOU
SENATOR. SENATOR GROUP WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE YES THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR AND- YOU KNOW IT'S
INTERESTING THE CONVERSATION WE
HAD THE OPPOSITION- COMMENTED
THAT THERE IS AN M. ON THE FRONT
OF THESE BILLS- IT STOOD FOR
ANOTHER DEFINITION THAT I FAILED
TO WRITE DOWN SO I DO APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T THINK A TWELVE YEAR OLD
KNOWS WHAT THE M. STANDS FOR. A
TWELVE YEAR OLD A FOURTEEN YEAR
OLD OR SIXTEEN YEAR OLD LOOKS AT
THAT. AND I REALLY DO SEE THAT
THE C. CANDY A YOUNGER KID
DEFINITELY SEE SMARTIES.
ESPECIALLY IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S
MARTY AND IT SMELLS LIKE A FOR
SMARTY BECAUSE OF THE ENHANCED
AEROBICS THAT THEY PUT ON THESE
PILLS TO MAKE THEM SMELL LIKE.
AN FRUIT PRODUCTS OR FRUIT
FLAVORED CANDY PRODUCTS- THE
PIECE OF LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU
BASICALLY SAYS THAT IF YOU'RE
INTENTIONALLY MARKETING TO OUR
CHILDREN JUST LIKE TOBACCO
PRODUCTS. IN THE VAPING
SITUATION. THAT M. YOU SHOULD
HAVE AN ENHANCEMENT BECAUSE
YOU'RE PURPOSELY TRYING TO KILL
OUR CHILDREN. AS DID YOU KNOW
AGAIN THIS THE ISSUE COMES UP
ABOUT RACE AND I'M GONNA COMMENT
ON THAT. I DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR
YOUR SKIN IS. IF YOU'RE TRYING
TO KILL OUR CHILDREN. BY
CREATING A RACKETEERING GROUP
THAT. IS IN IT FOR THE MANY
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
MADE ON THE DEATH OF OUR
CHILDREN. THEN YOU SHOULD GO TO
PRISON. FOR A VERY VERY VERY
LONG TIME. AND I THINK EVERY
PARENT WOULD FEEL THAT WAY THAT
IS LOST A CHILD OR HAS LOST A
LOVED ONE. AND ONE MAKE ONE
OTHER COMMENT AND- I MADE THE
COMMENT THAT THERE'VE BEEN I
DON'T KNOW OF SEVERAL FEDERAL
BILLS HAVE COME THROUGH THIS
BUILDING- BECAUSE- THERE'S BEEN
FIVE HEATHER FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN
HER TWENTY TWO FATALITIES IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. FEB BECAUSE
IF IT NON IN ADULTS AND TWO
HUNDRED AND TWENTY I BELIEVE TWO
HUNDRED TWENTY TWO OF THEM ARE
CHILDREN OR TURNER TWENTY FOUR
FORMER CHILDREN- AND NOTHING'S
BEEN DONE. ON THESE COMMITTEES
ON THIS COMMITTEE NOTHING'S WE
HAVE A 510094% INCREASE AND
NOTHING'S BEEN DONE. YET TWENTY
FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN
A FIREARM USE BECAUSE THEM
WHETHER IT'S SUICIDE SELF
INFLICTED. AS MURDER WHATEVER
THE CASE MAY BE AND THERE ARE
HUNDREDS OF BILLS THAT PASSED
OUT OF THIS KIT COMMITTEE. THAT
SAID VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
ENTITLED TO CARRY A FIREARM. AND
RESTRICT FIREARM USE A REGISTER
FIREARM USE INCREASE PENALTIES
FOR FIREARM USE. AND YOU KNOW
TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE AMOUNT
OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM
SENTINEL AND WE CAN'T GET ONE
BILL FOR ENHANCEMENTS AT THIS
COMMITTEE. AS AGAIN THE PREVIOUS
BILL WAS FOR FINALE IN USE FOR
THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN
ADDICTIVE AND HIGHLY LETHAL DRUG
. THIS BILL IS JUST TARGETING
MINORS ARE CHILDREN. THAT ARE
DYING AT A HIGHER RATE NOW
BECAUSE OF SENTINEL- AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. THANK YOU WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR OCHO BOTH- IN
THE CULTURAL. SB THREE TWENTY
FIVE MOTION IS DO YOU PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. SENATOR BOB.
OCTOBER I TROUBLED BY. BRADFORD
SKINNER. AND WIENER. BILLS ON
CALL THANK YOU THANK YOU. AFTER
. TEACHERS WANT YOUR POSTERS.
NOW AND- IF SOMEONE IS WITH.
WE'LL GRAB A FIFTY OF. I SENATOR
DO YOU WANT RICANS. YEAH. FOR
RECONSIDERATION MA'AM BOTH OF
THEM THANK YOU OKAY. BOTH YEAH.
WHAT SENATOR BRADFORD WE WILL BE
HEARING FROM YOU SB FOUR FOUR
NINE. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
CONSISTENT.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AS BEFORE FOUR NINE IS
THIS REPORT JUST CLEAN UP
MEASURE TO A BILL I PASSED TWO
YEARS AGO S. B. TWO OF MY
PLEASED TO CERTIFICATION BILL
WHICH PASSED THE LEGISLATURE AND
IS ENACTED INTO LAW- MOST
SUPERVISION AS THREE TWO ONE
INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY ONE OF
THIS YEAR. AS LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES HAVE BEGUN TO SUBMIT
INFORMATION TO POST COMMISSION
AND OFFICES THE CERTIFICATION
PROCEEDINGS HAVE BEGUN
ADDITIONAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED TO BETTER CLARIFY
LEGISLATIVE INTENT AND PROTECT
SENSITIVE INFORMATION REGARDING
ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS THESE
CHANGES WERE MADE IN
COLLABORATION WITH POST
COMMISSION AND ALLOW THE
COMMISSION TO BETTER IMPLEMENT
AND ADMINISTER THE CERTIFICATION
PROCESS AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
HER AYE VOTE. THANK YOU DO YOU
HAVE ANY LEAD WITNESSES- NO OKAY
I ANY LEAD WITNESSES ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT PLEASE
SPEAK UP SING NINE WILL MOVE ON
TO OPPOSITION LEAD SINGER NINE
WILL MOVE ON TO OPPOSITION AS A
WHOLE SEEING NONE WILL MOVE ON
TO TELECONFERENCE WITNESSES.
MODERATOR CAN YOU QUEUE UP THE
FIRST SPEAKER. YES MEDICARE. TO
PROVIDE COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION FOR SB FOUR FOUR NINE
PLEASE FIVE ONE THEN ZERO. NO
ONE HAS QUEUED UP MEDICARE. OKAY
WE WILL MOVE THE CONVERSATION TO
MEMBERS OF THE- COMMITTEE DO WE
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS.
SEEING NONE- SENATOR WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE. REQUEST FOR YOUR
VOTE OF SENATOR WOULD WE BE ABLE
TO GET A COURTESY- SO MOVED
THANK YOU SO SENATOR OCHO BOTH
HAS MOVED THIS CAN YOU CALL THE
ROLL. AS BEFORE FOUR NINE THE
PAST APPROPRIATIONS. THIRD OF A
HOBBY HI I- TOWBOAT HI OF
EYEBROW AYE RADFORD AYE SKINNER
WIENER. THANK YOU THE BILLS ON
SENATOR BRADFORD SB SIX SEVEN
THREE- THE FORESHORES THANK YOU.
SB SIX SEVEN THREE WOULD
ESTABLISH WHAT IS CALLED THE
DEALER TO ADDRESS THE OFTEN
IGNORED A LACK OF ATTENTION FOR
BLACK YOUTH AND YOUNG WOMEN WHO
ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY MISSING
IN CALIFORNIA ACCORDING TO THE
U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
APPROXIMATE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND
PEOPLE. HAVE GONE MISSING EVERY
YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES THE
DATA FROM TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN
CENTS A SHOWS THAT THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE BLACK OR AFRICAN
AMERICAN MAKE UP. ALMOST 14% OF
THE UNITED STATES POPULATION
HOWEVER FOR FORTY PERCENT-
NEARLY 40% I SAY ARE ARE MISSING
PEOPLE OF COLOR. BLACK CHILDREN
MAKE UP ABOUT 30% OF ALL MISSING
CHILDREN- AND RECEIVE LESS MEDIA
ATTENTION. TO THE FACT THAT THEY
ARE MISSING BLACK YOUTH A
DISPROPORTION CLASSIFIED AS
RUNAWAYS IN COMPARISON TO THEIR
WHITE COUNTERPARTS WHO ARE
CLASSIFIED AS MISSING AND DO NOT
A CHIEF RECEIVE I SHOULD SAY AN
AMBER ALERT ADDITIONALLY BLACK
WOMEN AND GIRLS. ARE AT
INCREASED. RISK OF BEING HARMED
IN TRAFFIC. THE PROGRESS BLACK
CAUCUS FOUNDATION REPORT ON
HUMAN TRAFFICKING ALSO FOUND
THAT TO TWO YEARS A STUDY OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING- INDICATE-
INCIDENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY 40%
OF THOSE WERE BEING TRAFFICKED
TROPICAL ARE GONNA FIGHT IS
BLACK WOMEN. IN CALIFORNIA THE
AMBER ALERT AUTHORIZES LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO USE
DIGITAL MESSAGING THROUGH OVER
IT ON OVERHEAD ROADWAY SIGNS TO
ASSIST IN RECOVERY EFFORTS OF
TRIAL CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN
ABDUCTED. THE PROBLEM WITH THE
AMBER ALERT SYSTEM IS ADDED
STRICT CRITERIA THAT. A
CHRISTMAS TO FILL UP FOR FEEL
FOR THE MESSAGE TO BE BROADCAST.
IF THESE GUIDELINES ARE NOT MET
AN AMBER ALERT CANNOT BE ISSUED
AND A CHILD IS LABELED AS A
RUNAWAY. WHEN A MISSING CHILD IS
LISTED AS A RUNAWAY THEY RECEIVE
NO MEDIA COVERAGE AND LESS
POLICE AND GOVERNMENT RESOURCES
ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP FIND THEM.
BLACK MISSING CHILDREN ARE
DISPROPORTIONATELY LABELED AS
RUNAWAYS WHICH ULTIMATELY MEANS
THAT FEWER RESOURCES ARTISTS ARE
ALLOTTED. FOR THEIR SAFE RETURN
SB SIX SEVEN THREE PROVIDES LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH ADDITIONAL
TOOL- THE EBONY ALERT TO
DISSEMINATE TIMELY ACCURATE
INFORMATION TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC
AND THE MEDIA FOR MORE EFFECTIVE
TO MORE EFFECTIVELY ASSISTS WITH
LOCATING. BLACK YOUTH AND YOUNG
WOMEN THAT ARE MISSING- SB SEVEN
SIX THREE ALSO WOULD ENCOURAGE
BUT NOT REQUIRE RADIO TELEVISION
CABLE SATELLITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA
SYSTEMS TO COOPERATE WITH
DISSEMINATING. THE INFORMATION
CONTAINED IN EVERITT AVENUE
ALERT HERE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY
TODAY IS MISS HEARING HEARING
I'M SORRY FROM CALIFORNIA Y. THE
STATE CONFERENCE OF IN DOUBLE
ACP. AND BURY. OCT AKIRA'S OF
VOICE OF THE YOUTH I REQUEST
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
AYE VOTE THANK YOU- LEAD WITNESS
NUMBER ONE I THANK YOU. YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES. STARTING I
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS-
MOUNTAINOUS AREAS ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA IN DOUBLE ACP.
THE CALIFORNIA Y. END CP'S
PRINCIPAL OBJECTIVE IS TO ENSURE
THEIR POLITICAL EDUCATIONAL
SOCIAL ECONOMIC EQUALITY OF
MINORITY CITIZENS IN CALIFORNIA
AND ELIMINATE RACE PREJUDICE WE
ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT SB SIX AND
THREE BECAUSE IT ADDRESSES A
STANDING PROBLEM WHERE THERE IS
SEVERE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN ITS
STATISTICS OF THOSE MISSING. IN
ADDITION TO MAKING UP APART
DISPROPORTIONATE PERCENTAGE OF
ALL MISSING PEOPLE AND RECEIVING
LESS MEDIA COVERAGE BLACK WOMEN
AND GIRLS ARE ALSO HEADACHE
INCREASED RISK OF BEING HARMED.
BLACK GIRLS AND WOMEN MAKE UP A
THIRD OF THE TWO HUNDRED SIXTY
EIGHT THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED
EIGHTY FOUR REPORTED MISSING
GIRLS WOMEN FAR GREATER THAN
THEIR SHARE OF THE OVERALL
FEMALE POPULATION IN TWENTY
TWENTY. THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DOES NOT
KEEP REYES SPACE THE DISTRICTS
HOWEVER ACCORDING TO THE
NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION
CENTER'S MISSING PERSON AND I
DID IT UNIDENTIFIED PERSON FILES
FOR THE TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE
OPERATIONAL HERE ONE ONE HUNDRED
SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED BLACK ADULTS. AND
CHILDREN REPORTED MISSING. WE
THANK SENATOR FOR THIS CALL AND
CRITICAL AND CRUCIAL. AND WE
HOPE THAT B. C. SEVENTY THREE
WILL BE A STARTING FOR THE MAY.
HEAD OF US TO INCREASE THE
NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE. THE YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER. I DON'T
KNOW. THANK YOU CHAIR AND BOARD-
MY NAME IS VERY AXES VOICE TO
YOU THAT SHE COULD BE MY
DAUGHTER. AND I AM HERE TO
SUPPORT SB SIX SEVENTY THREE
THANK YOU SENATE BRADFORD FOR-
PUTTING. A FOCUS ON BLACK GIRLS
ON BLACK CHILDREN. AND BLACK
WOMEN AS WE HEARD THE
STATISTICS. THIS FORTY PERCENT.
OF BLACK WOMEN THAT GOAL MYSTIC
. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING
THIS 53% ALL THE- GIRLS. BLACK
GIRLS WHO SURVIVE SEX
TRAFFICKING. FIFTY THREE
PERCENT. IN THE STAGGERING
STATISTIC WE ONLY MAKE ONLY
ABOUT 13% OF THE AFRICAN
AMERICAN POPULATION IN THIS
COUNTRY. SO YOU HAVE 53% OF
UNDERAGE BLACK GIRLS HERE IN THE
SACRAMENTO COUNTY WHERE YOU CAN
FIND SOME OF THESE GIRLS I'VE
FOUND SOME OF THESE GIRLS ON
STOCKTON BOULEVARD WHERE IS ONE
OF THE MOST MAJOR HUBS HERE.
AFFECTS RAFTING ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. I SUPPORT THIS BILL
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE
WITH THE MOTHERS. I SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE BLACK GIRLS BLACK
WOMEN ARE PROTECTED. THEY'RE NOT
CARE FOR OR AT LEAST DESERVE
JUST AS MUCH ATTENTION AS OUR
EMBERS. WHAT WE COULD FEEL
FULFILLED KNOWING THAT A PARENT
DOESN'T HAVE TO CALL ME A
COMMUNITY ADVOCATE I WOULD HAVE
TO GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA CREATE A
MASS HYSTERIA ON THE IMPORTANCE
OF FINDING OR BLACK GIRLS. AND
BRINGING LIGHT TO EPIDEMIC THAT
WE'RE HAVING. SINCE TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN WE'VE HAD OVER THIRTY
THOUSAND BLACK GIRLS MISSING
YEARLY. AND THIS NUMBER WILL
CONTINUE TO INCREASE IF WE DON'T
FIND A SOLUTION OR WAY TO MAKE
SURE NOT ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT
BUT OTHERS. LOOK AT THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF SEEING A MISSING
BLACK GIRL BEING A MISSING BLACK
GIRLS OR MISSING CHILD BUT NOT
BEING A RUNAWAY. NOT BEING
COLFAX NOT BEING CALLED A
JUVENILE NOT BEING CALLED THE
PERSON LOOKING FOR ATTENTION. I
HAVE SEEN A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD.
TIME IN A HUMBLE OF SEX
TRAFFICKING IN SACRAMENTO AND WE
NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THAT BY
PUSHING SB SIX THIRTY SEVEN
SEVENTY THREE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON GOING BACK
AS FOR ELEVATOR CENTER IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HELLO CIGAR
FOR THE GREATER SECOND EARLY IN
STRONG SUPPORT. BUDGET OFFICE
FELLA ON BEHALF OF ACCESS
REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE IN SUPPORT
. ALL RIGHT WE WILL MOVE ON TO.
LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
SEEING NONE WE WILL MOVE TO
REGULAR OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
SEEING NONE WILL MOVE TO THE
WITNESSES- HOPING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE MODERATOR WOULD
YOU PLEASE- PROMPT THE FIRST
INDIVIDUAL. TO PROVIDE COMMON IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR SB SIX
SEVEN THREE PLEASE PRESS ONE
THEN ZERO. NO ONE HAS KICKED OUT
THANK YOU WE WILL MOVE THE
CONVERSATION TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. SENATOR TO VOTE. I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL BUT I DO
WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT
WITNESS THAT JUST SPOKE. WE
REALLY NEED TO CONNECT YOU WITH
SENATOR GROVE I THINK YOU IS AN
UNDERCOVER WORK INCREDIBLY WELL
AND I'M SURE YOU COULD PROBABLY
A HAVE SENATOR BROUGHT FOR JOIN
IN THE EFFORT IN FIGHTING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. THANK YOU- I DO
HAVE ONE QUESTION- I ACTUALLY
REALLY DO SUPPORT THIS AND I
THINK SENATOR I'VE I'VE SPOKEN
TO ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST-
COUPLE MONTHS OR SO- IN HAYWARD
WE HAD A YOUNG LITTLE GIRL NAMES
A FEW MASON WHO- SHE WAS. A KIND
OF IN A KINSHIP TYPE PROGRAM-
AND SHE WAS TAKEN BY HER MOTHER
AND EVENTUALLY FOUND BRUTALLY
MURDERED IN. A DIFFERENT CITY-
AND THERE'S NO TRIGGER. TO ALERT
ANYBODY THAT SHE'S MISSED WEEKS
OF SCHOOL THE FACT THAT THE
PARENTS HAVE I'M THE GRANDMOTHER
IN THE ON TIME COMPLAIN TO
SOCIAL SERVICES MULTIPLE TIMES-
IN THE COURSE OF THE YEAR- THAT.
EVEN A SOCIAL WORKER IDENTIFIED
BRUISES ON THE BODY AND SO MUCH
MORE BREAKDOWN WHEN THEY WERE
VISITING OUT WITH THAT THE
MOTHER AND THE GIRL- AND I
COMMEND YOU FOR THIS PARTICULAR
BILL BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE- JUST
GROWING UP IN FOSTER CARE
SYSTEM- I DIED. HEY YOU KIDS OF
COLOR LOSE THEIR INNOCENCE A LOT
SOONER AND THEY'RE VIEWED IN ITS
NOT THEM NECESSARILY IT'S HOW
OTHERS VIEW THEM RIGHT SO TO
YOUR POINT WHEN SOMEBODY'S A SIX
YEAR OLD GIRL VERSUS YOU KNOW
HOW THEY'RE VIEWED MAYBE AS AN
ADULT YOU SEEN- YOUNG. BLACK
GIRLS BEING HAND CUFFED AND PUT
IN THE BACK OF THE CAR AND THEY
WERE EIGHT YEARS OLD ALL RIGHT
IS THAT REALLY NECESSARY- I WILL
ALSO KIND OF EXTENDED TO. A LOT
OF. NATIVE AMERICAN WOMEN TO
CLEAR- IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL IN
EXPANDING THIS OR- OR READ. SO
WE ARE OKAY THANK YOU. RIGHT
OTHER THAN THAT- I'D I WILL ASK
IS THERE ANY OTHER SENATOR WHO
LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. ALL
RIGHT AND I. SHE NO. RHI SENT
WHICH IS TO CLOSE YES I WANT TO
THANK- ALL OF THE WITNESSES
WHO'VE COME MOUNTAINS. SPOKE ON
THIS ISSUE AND JUST CREATE ALL
THE HELP FROM THE- COMMITTEE
CHEER FOR MOVING THIS MEASURE
FORWARD AND IT'S A SHAME THAT IN
TWENTY TWENTY THREE WE NEED. A
EBONY ALERT BUT I THINK DATA
CLEARLY SPEAKS TO THE SEVERITY
THAT HAPPENS- YOUR PERCENT COLOR
AND YOU COME UP MISSING. IN
SOCIETY SO THIS IS GOING TO HELP
US AND- I JUST REMEMBER THE
WORDS OF THE LATE SIR JOURNAL
TRUTH WHEN SHE WROTE THE PALM
AND I A WOMAN AND SHE HAD TO.
DISTINGUISH THE FACT THAT SHE
WAS TREATED FAR DIFFERENT THAN
OUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS IN HERE
WE ARE AGAIN IN TWENTY TWENTY
THREE. ALMOST SEEN THE SAME
THING ARE THESE YOUNG AFRICAN
AMERICAN GIRLS AND LADIES-
IMPORTANT ARE THE A WOMAN JUST
LIKE THEIR COUNTERPARTS ARE
RESPECT S. RIFLES. THANK YOU-
THE BILL HAS BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR SKINNER CAN WE CALL ROLL
SB SIX SEVENTY THREE THE MOTION
IS THE PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR HOBBS HI BOB I- TO
ABOUT. FIVE TO ABOUT AYE
BRADFORD ARE AND. AYE SKINNER.
IN OUR HIGH. AND THE BILL HAS
BEEN PLACED ON CALL- I WOULD
LIKE TO LIVE CALLS WE HAVE A
GOOD CHUNK OF OUR MEMBERS HERE
APOLOGIZE. I JUST WANNA MOVE. I
KNOW I JUST ONE OF THE FOUR
BECAUSE I HAVE TO. BOTH WITH THE
FIRST ONE. SB TWO SEVEN GROVE.
AT THE PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS. AS
THOROUGH HOP NOW WILL HAVE NO.
BRADFORD WE'LL START WITH THE
FIRST ONE IS HOPING TO THIRTY
SEVEN OKAY SORRY- OKAY- SKINNER
NOW. WIENER. THE BILL HAS BEEN
PLACED ON. SB THREE. SB THREE
TWENTY FIVE GROVE. THE PAST TWO
APPROPRIATIONS BOB. I BELIEVE
THE EVIDENCE. OKAY SORRY A
BRADFORD. SKINNER WIENER. ALL
RIGHT. THE BILL HAS BEEN PLACED
ON CALL. SB TWO SIXTY EIGHT. TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. THE CURRENT VOTE
IS FOUR TWO ZERO BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I BILLS. THE BILLS OUT
. HE CONSENT. AT BOTTOM BRADFORD
. SORRY. OKAY FIVE ZERO CALIBERS
FIVE ZERO CONSENT OUT SB THREE
SEVEN SIX. MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS BOB
I'M THE HOBBIT BY BRADFORD
BRADFORD I'D- FIVE ZERO OUT. AS
BEFORE SEVENTEEN MOTION IS TO
PASS TO THE FLOW BRADFORD.
BRADFORD HIGH FIVE ZERO FIVE
ZERO THE BILLS OUT. SB FOUR
FIFTY TWO MOTIONS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE IS THREE TWO ZERO
BUT CHAO ABOUT. BRADFORD ON
BRADFORD AYE. THREE ZERO ZERO.
YEAH YEAH THAT'S OUT OF NO DOUBT
THAT BILLS OUT. SB EIGHT OH FOR
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
FLOOR AND- SHARE VOTING NO VICE
YOU'RE VOTING HI BRADFORD.
THAT'S IT- THE VOTERS TO IN
FAILS RECONSIDERATION GRANT THE
VOTE IS TO THE BILL FAILS- WE
WILL GRANT RECONSIDERATION. FOR
SB FOUR FOUR NINE THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE IS THREE TWO ZERO
SKINNER. SKINNER I. THE BILL
STILL ON CALL SB SIX SEVENTY
THREE MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS I'M SORRY THAT'S
A SPINOFF. YEAH THAT'S IT FOR
NOW- R. EIGHT- WE NOW GO TO SEE
GLAZERS- FOUR SB SEVEN THREE
THREE SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
SENATOR THE FLOOR'S YOURS. I
KNOW IT'S BEEN A BUSY DAY FOR
EVERYONE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE TODAY- MEMBERS THAT
THIS LEGISLATION THAT CREATES A
FRAMEWORK OF STANDARDS FOR
TREATMENT OF INMATES PLACED IN
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. BUT IT
ALSO REQUIRES THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND
REHABILITATION TO COLLECT AND
SHARE DATA ON THEIR SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT PRACTICES. BUT
BEFORE GOING INTO DETAIL LET ME
JUST SPEAK TO MY OWN EXPERIENCES
THAT I'VE HAD HERE IN THE SENATE
WE HAD A BILL- LAST YEAR BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER HOLDEN- WHICH WAS
VERY PRESCRIPTIVE IN NATURE IN
TERMS OF HOW LONG SOMEONE COULD
BE IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. FOR
THE GOOD REASONS THAT IT'S A
VERY PUNITIVE SITUATION FOR
ANYBODY WHO IS IN THAT
CIRCUMSTANCE AND SO RIGHTLY HE
WAS TRYING TO FIND SOME
STANDARDS ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS
TO ENSURE THAT. WHILE ANYONE WHO
IS IN PRISON IS THAT TERROR IN A
TERRIBLE SITUATION THOSE WHO
WERE IN AS THEY CALL IT
SEGREGATED CONFINEMENT- ARE
STILL TREATED HUMANELY. THAT
BILL- THAT YOU ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES FOR THAT BILL WAS
THAT WHAT WHEN HE ASKED A
QUESTION. HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM
IS THIS ARE PEOPLE BEING PUT IN
SOLITARY BECAUSE THEY'RE
AFFILIATED WITH A GANG OR
BECAUSE THEY WERE INVOLVED IN
TRYING TO HURT SOMEONE
SERIOUSLY- IN THE PRESENT
CIRCUMSTANCES AND- WHEN YOU
START TRIED ASKING QUESTIONS
ABOUT. ALL THE DATA ABOUT WHO IS
IN SOLITARY AND HOW THEY'RE
TREATED IN WHO'S HAD. BAD
SITUATIONS AND WHAT WERE THEY-
AND HOW LONG WERE THEY THERE AS
YOU WENT THROUGH ALL THESE
QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE ELSE WOULD
NORMALLY HAVE ABOUT A PROBLEM
THAT. YOU HAVE A REMEDY SO
WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE
PROBLEM. YOU FOUND THAT- THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS WAS
COLLECTING VERY LITTLE DATA IN
THIS FACE. AND THAT'S VERY
UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE I THINK
ANECDOTALLY. WE ALL. FEEL THAT.
UNDER THE CONDITIONS OF SOLITARY
THAT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE DOING IT IN A HUMANE WAY
AND IT'S NOT BEING ABUSED. FOR
THE WRONG REASONS. SO THE
HOLDENVILLE JUST BARELY GOT OUT
OF THE SENATE LAST YEAR I KNOW
WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE HERE TODAY- AND I
CERTAINLY DIDN'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT
NOT SUPPORTING THAT BILL GIVEN-
AND- AT LEAST A MINIMAL. LEVEL
OF AWARENESS IS A PROBLEM. SO I
COULD MYSELF TO TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT IT. AND
THIS PAST FALL AFTER THAT
LEGISLATIVE YEAR HAD ENDED. I
ASKED AND THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AGREED TO BRING ME
AND MY STAFF TO AT THE- THIS
CASE FOLSOM PRISON. TO OUT TO
SEE THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH
PEOPLE WERE IN SOLITARY. TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO
CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM NAY
LEADERS. AND SO WE DID THAT MY
STAFF AND I. WENT THERE. AND AND
ALL THOSE THINGS WERE PROVIDED
TO US WE WERE ABLE TO. MEET WITH
THE AND MAKE COUNCIL IS OUR
INMATES THAT WERE ELECTED BY
THEIR FELLOW INMATES. TALK ABOUT
THESE VARIOUS ISSUES. WE WERE
ABLE TO GO TO US SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT. AND ON THAT ROW OF
CELLS. THEY SAID PICK ANYONE YOU
ONCE YOU HAVE WHATEVER
CONVERSATION YOU WANT TO HAVE
WITH THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE
CELLS- WHICH I WHICH I DID. AND-
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAME
CLEAR BOTH IN THE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE PRISON. INMATE
COUNSELORS WELL AS THE FOLKS IN
SOLITARY. IS THAT- THEY ALL
RECOGNIZE THAT IT SERVES AN
IMPORTANT PURPOSE- THAT- IF THE
IF IT WAS NOT FOR SOLITARY. THE
INMATES WHO COMMITTED SERIOUS
ACTS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST. NOT
JUST STAFF BUT FELLOW INMATES
SHOULD BE NO REPERCUSSIONS IN NO
PROTECTIONS FOR THEM- IN THEIR
ENVIRONMENT IN THE PRESENT. AND
THAT WAS THE MESSAGE I GOT FROM
THE INMATE COUNCIL. I WAS ALSO
THE MESSAGE THAT I GOT WHEN I
TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT WERE IN
SOLITARY THEMSELVES SOME WHO HAD
BEEN IN THERE. FOR MANY MONTHS I
ASKED THEM WHAT THEY DID. I DID
THEY DESERVE TO BE THERE. ARE
NONE OF THEM WERE HAPPY. BOB
THANK AND GRANTED THAT NOT
DIRECTLY BEHIND ME BUT ON THE
ROWER OR- OFFICERS OF THE
INSTITUTION SO. I'M SURE THERE
WAS SOME LEVEL OF INTIMIDATION.
IN PLAY BUT I'D THEY GAVE ME THE
ANSWERS THEY THEY GAVE ME. ALL
THE MANY KIDDING THAT THEY FELT
THAT THEY WERE THERE FOR THE
RIGHT REASONS AT LEAST THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT I SELECTED
RANDOMLY TO TALK TO. A GRANTED
IT'S ONLY ANECDOTAL IT'S NOT.
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BROAD BASED
DATA WHICH IS WHAT I THINK WE
ALL WANT WE'RE MAKING POLICY. WE
WANT TO HAVE THE DATA TO MAKE
GOOD CHOICES AND GOOD POLICY.
THAT LEADS US TO THE BILL THAT
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. WHAT
IT DOES TO. FIRST IT- IT. TAKES
THE ASKAR ASKAR DECISION. WHICH
WAS A JUDICIAL. DECISION ABOUT
HOW THE PRISONS HAD TO DEAL WITH
THE ISSUE OF- SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT. WHICH IS- AN ORDER
FROM THE COURT. AND NOBODY THAT
WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH IN AND OUT
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS. I FELT THAT THE
PRISON SYSTEM WAS ACTUALLY.
IMPLEMENTING THE STANDARDS OF
THAT COURSE THE ASHER. A
DECISION SO THE FIRST THING THE
BILL DOES IS TAKE THAT DECISION
AND MAKES IT A MATTER OF LAW.
NOT A MATTER OF THE COURT
DECISION- BUT A MATTER OF LAW.
AND WHAT WHAT IS THAT LAW IT'S
IN THIS BILL. IT PROHIBITING
THEY PROHIBIT THE USE OF GANG
AFFILIATION AS A JUSTIFICATION
FOR PLACING PEOPLE- IN
ISOLATION. IT WOULD CREATE A
STEP DOWN PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE
AND INCENTIVIZE INCARCERATED
PERSONS TO. A TO TAKE THE STEPS
TO BE RELEASED FROM SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT. IT WOULD REQUIRE
THE EXPANSION OF PROGRAMMING AND
PRIVILEGES FOR INCARCERATED
PERSONS IN SOLITARY. THAT WOULD
SET STANDARDS THAT ALLEVIATE THE
CONDITIONS OF SEGREGATED
CONFINEMENT SO. I DON'T THINK
ANYBODY EVEN OF FOLKS THAT ARE
OPPOSE THIS BILL I KNOW BECAUSE
THEY WANT TO SEE IT GO FURTHER.
FEEL THAT ANY OF THOSE STANDARDS
ARE INAPPROPRIATE. OR WEAK
STANDARDS THEY'RE IMPORTANT
STANDARDS EFFECTIVE WE THOUGHT
THEY WERE BEING IMPLEMENTED
TODAY IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM MAYBE
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME
CONCERNS THAT. HAVE BEEN
EXPRESSED BY ME AND OTHERS ABOUT
ABOUT SOLITARY SO THAT'S THE
FIRST THING THE BILL DOES. TAKES
A COURT OPINION AND MAKES IT
LAW. THE SECOND THING IT DOES IS
IT SAYS IN ORDER TO MAKE SMART
DECISIONS IN THIS SPACE WE NEED
TO HAVE THE DATA. THAT WE CAN
RELY UPON SO IT REQUIRES AN
EXTENSIVE COLLECTION OF DATA
ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE IN SOLITARY.
WHO ARE THEY THEIR RACE THEIR
SEX THEIR A THEIR AGE. HOW MANY
TIMES HAVE THEY BEEN THERE. WHAT
WERE THEY THERE FOR. HOW LONG
WERE THEY THERE THE A. I. DID
THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF HEALTH.
IMPACTS WHILE THEY WERE THERE
THEY TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE-
AND THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DATA
REQUESTS THAT ARE IN THIS BILL.
THAT ONCE AGAIN I THINK. THAT
EVEN OPPONENTS OF THIS BILL
WOULD SAY STATE NOT DATA THAT WE
DON'T NEED. I THINK IT'S
SOMETHING THAT THEY- WOULD LIKE
TO SEE. EXCEPT THEY DON'T KNOW
HOW IT GOES FAR ENOUGH SO THAT'S
THE BILL THAT'S BEFORE YOU. I
KNOW OPPOSITION WOULD LIKE IT TO
GO A LOT FURTHER I RESPECT THAT.
AND APPRECIATE THAT BUT THIS IS
A STEP FORWARD. AND I THINK FROM
THE ADVANTAGES OF THE SENATE
THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE A VEHICLE
TO CONTINUE THESE DISCUSSIONS.
ABOUT TRYING TO REFORM OUR
PRISON SYSTEM IN THIS REGARD-
THEY'LL BE DIFFERENCES. BUT I
THINK. IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION GOING FOR. AND
THAT'S WHY I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR YOUR I. BOATS
TODAY. THANK YOU WILL MOVE ON
LEAD SUPPORT. SEEING NONE WILL
MOVE ON TO REGULAR SUPPORT
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE WE WILL
MOVE ON TO LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. YOU WILL HAVE ONLY
TWO MINUTES. AND WE WILL BE
TIMING. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR.
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS KEVIN
MCCARTHY. I'M SENIOR IN THE
LEGAL STUDIES PROGRAM AT UC
BERKELEY. PRIOR TO UC BERKELEY I
WAS IN PRISON FOR TWENTY TWO
YEARS. I SPENT TEN OF THOSE
YEARS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
AT THE PELICAN BAY SECURITY
HOUSING UNIT THIS THIS YOU. IN
TWO YEARS IN SOLITARY AT PRESTON
A CALIFORNIA YOUTH AUTHORITY
FACILITY. THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED
DOWN. I HELPED ORGANIZE AND
PARTICIPATED IN THE HUNGER
STRIKES AT PELICAN BAY. IN
OPPOSITION TO CDC OURS USE OF
LONG TERM SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
AND I AM A CLASS MEMBER IN THE
ASKER VERSUS BROWN SETTLEMENT
NINE OPINION- THE SETTLEMENT
THAT SEVEN THIRTY THREE SEEKS TO
CODIFY. FOLLOWING THE HUNGER
STRIKES ASKER WAS THE FIRST
STEP. IN THE FIGHT FOR
COMPREHENSIVE CHANGE ON THE
ISSUE OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
ASK A REPRESENTS THE FLOOR OF
WHAT WAS NEEDED TO GET OUT OF
SOLITARY IN TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN
. HOWEVER WE HAVE COME A LONG
WAY. AS A STATE AND- AS A
MOVEMENT. EVEN WITH THE BASIC
MINIMUM C. C. R. AS FAILED TO
COMPLY WITH THE SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT. OFTEN THE FEDERAL
COURT. TO MAINTAIN OVERSIGHT
EVERY YEAR SINCE TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN. THE COURT HAS DECIDED
THEM FOR FABRICATING. EVIDENCE
FOR WITHHOLDING EXCULPATORY
EVIDENCE THEY'VE BUILDING IN IN
EVERY REGARD. CONTROL I HAVE
BEEN INVOLVED IN THE NATIONAL
AND STATE CAMPAIGNED IN SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT INCLUDING THE MENTAL
ACT I AM A STAKEHOLDER IN THE
ISSUE OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IF
THERE EVER WAS ONE. HOWEVER
NEVER ONCE DID ASSEMBLYMEMBER
GLACIER OR HIS STAFF REACH OUT
TO ME OR ANY OF THE GROUPS I
WORK WITH ABOUT THIS BILL
INCLUDING THE ASKER VERSUS BROWN
LEGAL TEAM. WHEN WE DID REACH
OUT TO STAFF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
THEY HAD NOT SPOKEN TO A SINGLE
IMPACTED PERSON ON THIS ISSUE.
IS UNACCEPTABLE TO INTRODUCE
LEGISLATION CODIFYING A CLASS
ACTION SETTLEMENT WITHOUT
CONSULTING WITH A SINGLE MEMBER
OF THAT CLASS SIR. YOUR TIME IS
DONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU. YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR A TEACHER.
HELLO MY NAME'S SAKE MULLIN I'M
FROM SACRAMENTO AND I'M HERE TO
SHARE MY CONNECTION TO THIS
ISSUE. THE FORMERLY INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS AND A SOLITARY
SURVIVOR I'M HERE TO VOICE MY
OPPOSITION SB SEVEN THIRTY THREE
. MY STORY IS SIMILAR TO THAT OF
MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK MEN
IN THIS COUNTRY- MY FIRST
CONTACT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
CAME WHEN I WAS EIGHTEEN YEARS
OLD. OVER A SMALL AMOUNT OF
MARIJUANA THAT WAS IN MY
POSSESSION. I WAS PUT ON
PROBATION AND SUBSEQUENTLY ABOUT
A YEAR AFTER THAT I FOUND MYSELF
IN PRISON FOR THE FIRST TIME.
TODAY I'M AN UNDERGRADUATE AT UC
BERKELEY WITH UNDERGROUND
SCHOLARS PROGRAM- I STUDY THE
CONCEPTS OF MASS INCARCERATION.
AND HOW PEOPLE ARE
INSTITUTIONALIZED BY THIS
INCARCERATIONS. THAT IS
PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
WHEN I LEFT PRISON I WAS SO
ANGRY AND BITTER. THAT I SET OFF
ON A PATH OF SELF DESTRUCTION
THAT WAS CERTAIN TO LEAD TO MORE
INCARCERATION. I HAVE SPLIT I
HAVE SPENT ALMOST EIGHTEEN YEARS
OF MY LIFE CAR SERRATED. DURING
THAT TIME I SPENT SEVERAL LONG
PERIODS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO
TRULY UNDERSTAND. THAT BEING
DEPRIVED OF HUMAN CONTACT IN
TWENTY THREE HOUR LOCKDOWNS IS
HORRIFIC FOR ONE DAY. LET ALONE
WEEKS MONTHS OR YEARS. FOLLOW
TERRY WITH A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF
HELP FOR ME. I KNOW THIS NOT
ONLY BECAUSE OF WHAT I FELT BUT
BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAW. DURING MY
TIME I SAW TWO PEOPLE COMMIT
SUICIDE. ONE OF WHOM WAS ABOUT
FOUR MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING
RELEASED. I'M STILL HAUNTED BY
HIS CRIES FOR HELP. AND THE WAY
THAT THEY LET THAT YOUNG MAN
SUFFER. ALL OF THE THINGS HAPPEN
IN THE DARK BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE
I KNOW THAT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY
TO SPEAK. WHILE I WAS IN PRISON
I JOIN THOUSANDS OF OTHER
PRISONERS INCLUDING SOME OF MY
FRIENDS WHO ARE HERE TODAY. AND
GOING ON HUNGER STRIKE. TO
PROTEST TO PROTEST THE USE OF
SOLITARY CUP COMBINING. THAT
WORK LED TO THE ASKER
SETTLEMENT. THAT SENATOR GLAZER
IS SEEKING TO TURN INTO LAW.
WITH SENATOR GLAZER IS ACTUALLY
DOING IS SAYING THAT THE STATUS
QUO IS GOOD ENOUGH. AND THAT WE
DON'T NEED REAL CHANGE. SIR IS
IT. YOUR TIME IS DONE. THANK YOU
THANK YOU- WE WILL MOVE ON TO
REGULAR OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
JACKIE GONZALEZ FOR IMMIGRANT
DEFENSE ADVOCATES IN OPPOSITION
ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA ALL
OF THE SCHOOL SPONSORS OF
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HOLD ITS EIGHTY
TO EIGHTY THANK YOU. DANNY
MOBILE. GRADUATE STUDENT AT CAL
STATE LONG BEACH SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT SURVIVOR I OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES. SEEING NONE
WE WILL MOVE ON TO WITNESSES-
SPEAKING. VIA TELECONFERENCE.
MODERATOR CAME FROM THE FIRST
INDIVIDUAL. TO PROVIDE COMMENT
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR SB
SEVEN THREE THREE PLEASE PRESS
ONE THEN THERE ARE. NINE ONE
FOUR ZERO PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR NUMBERS ECONOMY
ON BEHALF OF NEXT AND CALIFORNIA
IN OPPOSITION. FIND ONE FOUR ONE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE ONE FOUR
ONE. CALIFORNIA STATE WRONG IN
OPPOSITION. NO FURTHER COMMENTS
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- WE WILL
MOVE THE CONVERSATION TO MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE. SAYING NO
CONVERSATION- I WILL MOVE TO THE
SENATORS ARE SENATOR SKINNER-
FIRST I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO
CAME AND TESTIFIED AND APOLOGIES
THAT AREN'T RULES OR SUCH TREATS
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE OF ALREADY
HAD A QUITE A LONG HEARING AND I
KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL DAY.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO- APPRECIATE
THAT YOU- HAVE SURVIVED THE
CIRCUMSTANCES AND THAT YOU ARE
HERE AND- PROVIDING THIS
TESTIMONY AND- I WILL NOT BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL SO I WILL
NOT MOVE IT BECAUSE I THINK THE-
IT IS NOT ADEQUATE TO JUST PUT
INTO STATUTE THE TERM SETTLEMENT
. GIVEN WHEN THE SETTLEMENT
OCCURRED AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED
SINCE THEN AND ADDITIONALLY
THAT. WE THE REALLY HORRIFIC
IMPACT OF THE USE OF SOLITARY ON
THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE WHOLE
QUESTION IS TO WHAT WHAT ARE THE
CONDITIONS THAT EVEN LEAD I MEAN
CERTAINLY. APPRECIATE YOU SAY
OKAY WELL WE NEED TO DO WE NEED
SOLITARY TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM
IF THEY'VE ACTED VIOLENTLY
AGAINST ANOTHER INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUAL BUT I THINK PART OF
WHAT. WE HAVE BEEN GRAPPLING
WITH THIS. MAN CERTAINLY THERE
ARE VIOLENT INDIVIDUALS BUT HOW
OUR FACILITIES IN EFFECT CAN
ENCOURAGE AND BREATHE OUT
VIOLENCE AND THAT THE TO JUST
HAVE OUR ANSWER BE SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT DOES NOT ADDRESS
THAT UNDERLYING PROBLEM. AND SO-
ANYWAY I COULD SPEAK. OUT MUCH
LONGER BUT I WON'T NEED. TO WRAP
UP BECAUSE THERE'S TWO OTHER
COMMITTEES THAT NEED TO COME
INTO THIS ROOM- BUT I DO REALLY
WANT EXPRESS THE APPRECIATION
FOR THOSE IF YOU CAME. AND NOT
GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
YOURSELF. LET ME GIVE IT. TO OF
THE ACT. IT HAS- SENATOR WAS TO
CLOSE. WITH A BIG I WAS JUST
GOING TO- OKAY I WOULD JUST WANT
TO GIVE UP. WELL I GUESS YOU
COULD IT IN YOUR CLOSER CUTS MY
. YEAH SHARE THE FOR THE- YES
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE OKAY DID
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION I CAN
ANSWER FOR YOU. I YOU I THINK
THAT IT IS THE CONVERSATION HAS
BEEN I THINK YOU REFERENCE THE
PREVIOUS BILL IN THE LAST CYCLE-
THE GOVERNOR DID STATE THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO
HONESTLY- RIGHT FOR REFORM IS
WHAT HE STATED- IN REGARDS TO
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT CAN YOU
JUST SPECIFY HOW LONG ARE YOU
LOOKING FOR SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
IN EUROPE TO THE BILL. IT
DOESN'T SPEAK TO A LENGTH THAT
SPEAKS TO STANDARDS THAT WOULD
BE APPLYING TO MAKE SURE THAT
THAT THAT IF SOMEONE WAS
SEGREGATED THAT WAY THAT IT WAS
DONE NOT ONLY IN A HUMANE WAY
BUT IN A WAY THAT HELP GET THEM
OUT OF THAT CIRCUMSTANCE THROUGH
REHABILITATION AND OTHER
ACTIVITIES OKAY SO NO CLARITY ON
THAT LINK THE THIRTY I THINK I
SPOKE TO. WE WANT TO MAKE GOOD
CHOICES BASED ON DATA AND
THERE'S NO DATA AVAILABLE TO US
THAT THE SPEED PROVIDED A NOTE
NOT CERTAINLY NOT TO ME I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S BEEN TO THE
COMMITTEE THAT GIVES THE
INFORMATION ON. HOW THEY HAVE
BEEN USING SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
AND THEY'VE BEEN USING IT AND SO
THAT WE CAN MAKE GOOD CHOICES IN
THAT SPACE SO. THAT'S WHY I
DON'T SPECIFY ONE. STANDARD OVER
ANOTHER EXCEPT. STUDENT ONE
LENGTH OF. A PERIOD OVER
ANOTHER. I TRIED TO- MAKE SURE
THAT. THE VALUES THAT WE HOLD
ABOUT HOW PEOPLE SHOULD BE
TREATED ARE REFLECTED. IN THE
LENGTH OF SERVICE FLASH SHORTER
OR LONGER DEPENDING ON. THE
CIRCUMSTANCES UNDERSTOOD IN AND
WE HAD- ANECDOTAL INFORMATION
FROM YOU RIGHT- A LITTLE BIT
EARLIER WHEN YOU YOU'RE
CHATTING- I DO JUST ONE
HIGHLIGHT I DO VIEW IT.
ANECDOTAL INFORMATION AS DATA
POINTS- OBVIOUSLY- AND I THINK
WE HAD SOME SPEAKERS HERE THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY
SPENT TEN YEARS. IN SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT- AND YOU REFERENCE
THAT YOUR BILL WOULD BE A LITTLE
BIT MORE HUMANE- WHAT ELIMINATE
TEN YEARS. I CERTAINLY HAD A NO
ONE I THINK WOULD EVER SUGGEST
THAT TEN YEARS IS EVEN CLOSE TO
EVER BEING ACCEPTABLE SO. AT
WHAT I TRIED TO NOT DO IS BE
PRESCRIPTIVE. KEEP IN MIND AND
I'M NOT WE DON'T. TALK ABOUT
THIS OUT LOUD AND MAYBE WE
SHOULD WHICH IS THAT. YOU KNOW.
THAT WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE
PRISON. SYSTEM NOT SOMEBODY.
SOME FOREIGN. CHARGE FOR SYSTEM
WE ARE IN CHARGE YOU ARE CHARGE
OF YEAR. YOU MAKE CHOICES ABOUT.
WHAT KIND OF MONEY FUNDING YOU
WANT TO PROVIDE THE PRISON
SYSTEM WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS.
AND REQUIREMENTS YOU PUT ON THE
THAT THAT TYPE OF RESOURCES. THE
GOVERNOR OF OUR PARTY LEADS THE
PRISON SYSTEM IN TERMS OF THE
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IS. AS
WE LIKE TO SAY. SO THIS ISN'T
SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY OUT
THERE IS DOING TO PRISONERS THIS
IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE. AND THAT
THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS
LEGISLATURE HAS THE ABILITY TO
DO OVERSIGHT. IN TERMS OF THE
CONDUCT OF. THAT YOU KNOW ALL OF
THE RESOURCES UNDER OUR
AUTHORITY COLLUDING OUR PRISONS.
SO YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS IS OUR
PROBLEM THE GOVERNOR HAS
INDICATED HE FELT THAT THE BUT
THE HOLDEN BILL WAS. WAS TOO
PRESCRIPTIVE. AND SO I'M I'M
TRYING TO FIND SOME BALANCE SOME
PROGRESS POINTS. NOT I KNOW WHAT
YOU ALL WOULD LIKE WHAT EVERYONE
WOULD LIKE. BUT IS AN ATTEMPTED
TO LEASES THE OTHER SOME
FOUNDATION OF PROGRESS. AS WE
TRY TO GO FURTHER AS YOU TRY TO
GO FURTHER IN THAT IN THE BILLS
THAT YOU'LL HEAR- THROUGH THE
COURSE OF THIS LEGISLATIVE YEAR.
AT LEAST CREATE A FOUNDATION.
THAT YOU WHAT DATA MATTERS. AND
THAT THE SETTLEMENT REQUIREMENTS
ARE SHOULD BE IN. THE FORCE OF
LAW. NOW OF A COURT JUDGE. AND
THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO AS A
FOUNDATIONAL BASIS HERE SENATOR
SKINNER. I JUST WANTED TO
RESPOND AT THE- PART OF THE
REQUEST FOR DATA THAT'S IN YOUR
BILL. ASSUMES WHETHER YOU INTEND
OR NOT BUT IN APPROVAL OF THE
USE OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT NO.
YOU OBVIOUSLY BY NOT PUTTING ANY
LIMITS ON THE TIME LENGTH. WERE
IN JUST PUTTING IN YOU KNOW
QUOTE UNQUOTE STANDARDS. THIS
DOES NOT. BUT IT DOES NOT
ACTUALLY LIMIT THE USE OF
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. AND
CONCEIVABLY. THE YOU KNOW I
WOULD HOPE IT NEVER OCCURS AGAIN
SOMEONE COULD. END UP BEING FOR
TEN YEARS. IN THE WAY THE BILL
IS STRUCTURED. IN THE
LEGISLATURE DID NOT AGREE I MEAN
OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T
AGREE TO LEGISLATURE THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED THE MEMBERS
BILL MR HOLD THIS BILL THE
LEGISLATURE FELT THAT OUR USE OF
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. WAS
INAPPROPRIATE. AND I KNOW THAT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HOLDEN IS COMING
BACK. AND PERHAPS HE HAS BEEN IN
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND PERHAPS HE
HAS A BILL THAT MIGHT- MIGHT-
YOU KNOW MEET MORE OF THE
GOVERNOR'S- CONSIDERATIONS BUT I
THINK. IN A WEEK IT'S- WELL WE
CAN'T. FORCE THE GOVERNOR TO
SIGN SOMETHING INTO LAW WE CAN
CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO PUT
SOMETHING ON HIS DESK THAT
REFLECTS WHAT WE THINK IS THE
APPROPRIATE POLICY. AND I
OBVIOUSLY FELT THAT MR HOLDEN'S
BILL WAS THE APPROPRIATE POLICY
. ALL RIGHT SENATOR WHICH LIKE
CLOSE PLEASE THANK YOU FOR THE
TIME YOU'VE TAKEN TO A TO TALK
ABOUT THIS YEAR IF YOU I KNOW.
WHICH ONE WE ALL ALL CARE ABOUT-
I WANTED JUST TO REAFFIRM THAT
THE STATUS QUO IS NOT
ACCEPTABLE. TO ME OR ANY OF US
SO THERE'S NO ARGUMENT. THERE
THAT- IT WITH THE RESPECT IF YOU
EXTEND THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS
RECENTLY MADE. A ABOUT OUR
CULPABILITY CERTAINLY YOU COULD
LOOK AT EVERY BUDGET WE HAVE
PASSED FOR THE LAST. DECADES
THAT ALLOWED THE CONDITIONS TO
GO ON AS AS SOME OF US SEE IT-
AND THAT'S THAT'S A ROLE AND
RESPONSIBILITY. AND A STORY THAT
THE LEGISLATURE CHOOSES TO GIVE
UP- AND THAT'S THAT'S
UNFORTUNATE BUT THAT'S THAT'S
TRUE. I THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO
MAKE A CHECK A JUDGMENTS GOING
FORWARD THAT NOW I DON'T THINK-
MAKING LAW BY ANECDOTE IS THE
RIGHT THING TO DO. IT IS A DATA
POINT THAT IT SHOULD REMIND US
THAT WE SHOULD GET DIG DEEPER
AND GET REAL INFORMATION- TO
MAKE THE BEST CHOICE THAT WE
CAN'T. WITH THAT I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION AND
DANGEROUSLY ASTRONAUT. WHO HAVE
A MOTION. I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THE
SENATOR TO VOGUE MOVES. CONTROL
ROOM SB SEVEN THIRTY THREE TO
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR BOB NO
WILL HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF A HI.
ABOUT AYE BRADFORD. SKINNER
SKINNER NOW. THE BILL IS ON
CALLS. YOU HAVE FLORIDA FOR SB
FOURTH. THANK YOU CHAIR- AND
WOULD YOU WE CONSIDER ON THE P.
BOOK OF COURSE OKAY. WITHOUT
OKAY. RIGHT NOW- AS EIGHT FORTY
THREE IT SAYS A SIMILAR BILL
THAN WHAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS
HEARD IN PREVIOUS YEARS. IT'S
GOAL IS TO REDUCE BARRIERS TO RE
ENTRY FOR INDIVIDUALS. WHO ARE
RELEASED FROM PRISON AFTER BEING
WRONGFULLY CONVICTED. THE BILL
ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE WHO WERE
FOUND BY THE STATE TO BE
INNOCENT OF THE CRIMES FOR WHICH
THEY WERE IMPRISONED. AND IT
WOULD ENTITLE THEM TO A
CERTIFICATE OF INNOCENCE.
ANNOTATING THE FINDINGS OF THEIR
INNOCENCE. WRONGFULLY CONVICTED
INDIVIDUALS FACE MANY BARRIERS
TO REBUILDING THEIR LIVES FIND
FOLLOWING A FINDING OF FACTUAL
INNOCENCE FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THEY
APPLY FOR A JOB OR HOUSING.
RESPECTIVE EMPLOYERS AND
LANDLORDS WILL LEARN ABOUT THEIR
CONVICTIONS THEY COULD LEARN
ABOUT THEIR CONVICTION AND THEIR
INCARCERATION BUT SIMPLY
REVIEWING COMMERCIAL BACKGROUND
CHECKS ONLINE RESEARCH. THEIR
EMPLOYMENT OR RENTAL HISTORIES.
BUT THOSE SOURCES TYPICALLY DO
NOT INCLUDE SUBSEQUENT
EXONERATIONS ARE FINDING BY THE
STATE OF THE FACTUAL INNOCENCE.
AS A RESULT PERSPECTIVE
EMPLOYERS OR LANDLORDS HAVE NO
REASON TO BELIEVE THAT
APPLICANTS WERE EXONERATED AND
FOUND INNOCENT AND THE
INDIVIDUALS HAVE NO SIMPLE WAY
TO PROVE OTHERWISE. SB EIGHT
FORTY THREE WOULD PROVIDE
INDIVIDUALS. WHO HAVE BEEN FOUND
TO BE FACTUALLY INNOCENT OF A
CRIME- THAT THEY WOULD BE.
ALLOWED TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF
INNOCENCE THEY CAN PROVIDE THEIR
EMPLOYER LANDLORD- THAT WOULD
INDICATE THEIR DATE OF
CONVICTION ITS REVERSAL. THE
DURATION OF THE INCARCERATION
AND THAT THE STATE IS FOUND THAT
INDIVIDUAL FACTUALLY INNOCENT.
BY REDUCING THESE ADDITIONAL
CHALLENGES IN MOVING TOWARDS A
MINDSET OF PREVENTION AND
REHABILITATION. IS INDIVIDUALS
WILL BE ABLE TO REENTER SOCIETY
WITH MORE EASE. THIS. BILL WILL
HELP LOWER RECIDIVISM LEVELS.
FOR THOSE WHO WERE FOUND IN A-
THREE AND A INTO SOCIETY I'D
LIKE TO INTRODUCE JOHN ELDON.
FROM THE AFTER INNOCENCE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
THANK YOU YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU SENATOR GLAZER- AND
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE AND
IN PARTICULAR SENATOR SKINNER
BRADFORD WHO IN THIS AND PAST
SESSIONS HAVE CHAMPIONED- THE
RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN
WRONGFULLY INCARCERATED RELEASED
IN CALIFORNIA. I'M JOHN ELTON
I'M THE FOUNDER OF AFTER
INNOCENCE IN ON PROFIT IN
OAKLAND WE PROVIDE ONE ON ONE
DIRECT SERVICES TO THIS
POPULATION. WE'RE THE LARGEST
SERVICE PROVIDER TO THIS
POPULATION CALIFORNIA AND
NATIONALLY AND AGAIN THANKS TO
THIS COMMITTEE IN THIS
LEGISLATURE WE DO THAT IN
CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE ADULT
REENTRY GRANT PROGRAMS
CALIFORNIA IS THE ONLY STATE
THAT. THAT IN A FULL WAY
SUPPORT. SERVICES TO THIS
POPULATION- IN THIS WAY. HERE
AGAIN BUT WHAT THE TO SUPPORT A
BILL THAT YOU ALL PASSED LAST
YEAR IN FACT BOTH HOUSES PASSED
UNANIMOUSLY LAST YEAR IT'S A
SIMPLE BILL DOESN'T COST VERY
MUCH. IN FACT HARDLY ANYTHING AT
ALL AND WHAT IT DOES IS SIMPLY
PROVIDED THESE INDIVIDUALS WITH
A LITTLE BIT OF ASSISTANCE
REBUILDING THEIR LIVES MOVING ON
BY HAVING A ONE PAGE CERTIFICATE
ATTESTING. TO WHAT IS ALREADY IN
THE RECORD AND ALSO HAVING THEIR
CRIMINAL HISTORIES REFLECT WHAT
IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD. HI
THIS BILL WAS VETOED LAST YEAR
BY THE GOVERNOR UNFORTUNATELY
EXPRESSED A CONCERN ABOUT WHAT
MIGHT DEEM TO BE FIND ABOUT
ABOUT FINDINGS FROM THE VICTIM'S
COMPENSATION BOARD WE HAVE
RESTRUCTURED THE BILL SO THAT IT
TODAY AS IS. WOULD AGAIN SIMPLY
REFLECT WHAT HAPPENED IF YOU
RECEIVE A FINDING OF FACTUAL
INNOCENCE FROM A COURT IN
CALIFORNIA. YOU WILL RECEIVE A
ONE PAGE DOJ STATEMENT STATING
THAT. A CERTIFICATE STATING THAT
. YOUR RAP SHEET WILL ALSO STATE
THAT SIMPLE FACT IF INSTEAD YOU
RECEIVED RECEIVED AN AWARD. FROM
THE VICTIM'S COMPENSATION BOARD
FOR RUN HIS CONVICTION. THAT
SIMPLE FACT WILL BE STATED ON
THAT SAME CERTIFICATE AND ON
YOUR CRIMINAL HISTORY. I'M HAPPY
TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS WE BELIEVE
WE'VE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS
RAISED BY THE GOVERNOR AND HOPE
THAT HE UNANIMOUS BILL CAN
FINALLY BECOME LAW. THANK YOU DO
WE HAVE ANY OTHER SUPPORT WHEN A
SPEAKING. THING NINE TO HAVE
SUPPORT WHEN ASSISTANT GENERAL.
LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THING NO OTHER WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT TO HAVE OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE DO YOU
HAVE ANY REGULAR OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. SAYING NON WILL MOVE
ON TO WITNESSES WHITE WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
MODERATOR PROF THE FIRST SPEAKER
. TO PROVIDE COMMENTS IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE
THEN. ZERO FEDERAL CHAIR NO ONE
HAVE QUEUED UP. THANK YOU- WILL
RETURN THE CONVERSATION BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE SENATOR SKINNER- I
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE BILL AND
APPRECIATE SENATOR YOU'RE
BRINGING IT BACK IN THIS IS ONE
I MEAN IT'S INTERESTING THE
PREVIOUS BILL WAS. YOU BROUGHT
FORWARD SOMETHING BECAUSE THE
YOU FELT MAYBE IT- IT MIGHT BE
MORE ACCEPTABLE THE GOVERNOR
HERE WE HAVE ONE WHERE THE
GOVERNOR VETOED YOUR LAST EFFORT
WHICH MANY OF US SUPPORTED
OBVIOUSLY. AND WHETHER HE DOES
OR NOT WE DON'T KNOW BUT I THINK
THE POLICY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
PUT FORWARD IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH
THAT WE SHOULD KEEP PUTTING IT
ON HIS DESK. SO THERE'S NEVER
GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN GET A
GOVERNOR TO AGREE BUT CERTAINLY-
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT WORK AND
I SUPPORTED ARE MOVING. THANK
YOU- ARE A RIGHT SENIOR OTHER
SPEAKERS AND A SENATOR WHICH
LIKE CLOSE THANK YOU AT A
DISTINCT CLOSING THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA IS IT TOO. INNOCENT
EXONERATES TO ENSURE THAT THE
WRONGFUL CONVICTION DOES NOT
CREATE CONTINUED BARRIERS TO
EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING AND WITH
THAT RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR HIGH
VOTE. THANK YOU- THE BILL HAS
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR SKINNER
COMMUTE CALL ROLL SB EIGHT FOUR
THREE THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR BOB HI OF
IOTA OF A- TOWBOAT AYE BRADFORD.
SKINNER ALL RIGHT SKINNER AYE
WIENER. ALL RIGHT BILL IS ON
CALL. VERY MUCH- THANK YOU-
SENATOR SKINNER. FLOORS YOU.
PRESENTING. THREE FOUR FIVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH- I WE'RE ALL
WHERE THEY NOW FOUR STATES HAVE
BEYOND ABORTION REPRODUCTIVE
CARE. IN RESPONSE TO THE SCOTUS
DECISION. EIGHT STATES HAVE NOW
ALSO RESTRICTED GENDER AFFIRMING
CARE WITH TWENTY MORE PLANNING
TO DO THE SAME. AND MANY OF
THOSE STATES ARE BEING
AGGRESSIVE IN THEIR WILLINGNESS
TO PROSECUTE PROVIDERS AND THOSE
WHO ASSIST PATIENTS SO WHAT SB
THREE FORTY FIVE IS DOING IS
PROTECTING PROVIDERS WHO
PRESCRIBE MEDICATIONS IN CARE
THAT IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE FOR
PATIENTS AND THAT IS LEGAL IN
CALIFORNIA REGARDLESS OF WHERE
THEIR PATIENT IS LOCATED. IT
ALSO ALLOWS PATIENTS AND
PROVIDERS TO BRING SUIT IN
CALIFORNIA AGAINST ANYONE WHO
INTERFERES WITH THEIR RIGHT TO
RECEIVE ESSENTIAL CARE IN
CALIFORNIA THAT IS LEGAL HERE-
ESSENTIAL CARE THAT IS LEGAL IN
CALIFORNIA. AND IT PROTECTS
PATIENTS AND PROVIDERS IN
CALIFORNIA AGAINST EXTRADITION.
AND A PROHIBITS ANY GOVERNMENT
EMPLOYEE OR CONTRACTOR FROM
COOPERATING WITH OUT OF STATE
ENTITIES THAT ARE SEEKING
DISCOVERY OR INFORMATION ABOUT
HEALTHCARE THAT IS LEGAL IN THIS
STATE. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
IT THIS IS NECESSARY BECAUSE OUR
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS. DON'T YOU
KNOW THEIR PATIENTS MAY BE
ANYWHERE YOU AND I MAY BE IN
ANOTHER STATE FOR A PERIOD OF
TIME WHETHER IT'S TO GO TO
SCHOOL DO I WORK STUDENT. OR ANY
NUMBER OF REASONS AND- IT MAY BE
FOR EXAMPLE A PERSON THAT'S
GETTING GENDER AFFIRMING CARE
THAT'S A MULTI YEAR- MEDICATION.
REGIME MAYBE THE FIRST THEIR
HEALTH CARE PROVIDER THEY LIVED
IN CALIFORNIA THEIR HEALTH CARE
PROVIDER THERE THEY MOVED TO
ANOTHER PLACE BUT THEY'RE STILL
USING THE SAME HEALTH CARE
PROVIDER. SO ARE HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS DESERVE THIS
PROTECTION AND DISASSEMBLED ON.
ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE THAT IS
BEING MADE ILLEGAL IN OTHER
STATES BUT IT'S COMPLETELY LEGAL
IN CALIFORNIA WITHOUT IT LIKE
MIGHT WITNESS IN SUPPORT. AND
THAT IS DR DANIEL GROSSMAN WHO
IS A PROFESSOR AND DEPARTMENT OF
OBSTETRICS GYNECOLOGY AND
REPRODUCTIVE SCIENCES FROM UC
SAN FRANCISCO. AND MY OTHER
WITNESS DOCTOR BREER BONDI BOYD
WHO'S A FAMILY PHYSICIAN IN
SACRAMENTO IS NOT- HAD TO LEAVE
BUT- WE HAVE SOMEONE TO REACH
HER TESTIMONY SO IF WE COULD GO
TO THE WAY YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
YOU WILL BE TIMED. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- SO IN ADDITION TO BE
A PROFESSOR OBGYN AT UCSF- A
LEADER RESEARCH PROGRAM CALLED
ADVANCING NEW STANDARDS. IN
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH OR ANSWER I
ALSO PROVIDE CLINICAL CARE
INCLUDING ABORTION CARE AT
SOCCER BURKE SAN FRANCISCO
GENERAL HOSPITAL. I THINK IT'S
WE'VE ALL SEEN THE ABORTION
CRANE ACCESS TO CRISIS HAS
ROLLED OUT SLOWLY ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES. EVEN UNDER ROE-
AT THE HYDE AMENDMENT AN EVER
GROWING LIST OF STATE LEVEL
RESTRICTIONS LIMITED ACCESS TO
ABORTION. CARE FOR MANY WITH
ADOPTED ASIAN THOSE RISK. BECAME
OUT RIGHT. AND NOW WE TO SEE
WHAT THE SUPREME COURT MAY DO
TOMORROW- IN A CASE THAT COULD
THREATEN ACCESS TO MIFEPRISTONE
WHICH IS A TOTAL THAT'S USED IN
OVER HALF OF ABORTIONS. AND
COULD RESTRICT CARE NATIONWIDE
INCLUDING HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
FACED WITH THE THREATS WE REALLY
MUST DO MORE TO PROTECT ABORTION
ACCESS HERE IN CALIFORNIA. BOTH
FOR PEOPLE LIVING HERE AND FOR
THOSE IN STATES WITH SEVERE
RESTRICTIONS. CLINICIANS LIKE ME
WHO PROVIDE ABORTIONS IT SHOULD
BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS
LIFESAVING SERVICE. TO PATIENTS
WHO COME TO US NEEDING CARE WE
SHOULD NOT HAVE TO POLICE OUR
PATIENTS LOCATION. OR DENY CARE
TO OUR PATIENTS WHO COME TO US
IN NEED. SB THREE FORTY FIVE
WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
PROTECTIONS FOR US TO PROVIDE
CARE FOR PATIENTS FROM OUT OF
STATE- INCLUDING THOSE WHO
TRAVEL HERE- AS WELL AS THOSE
INCLUDING CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS
WHO COULD BE REACHED BY
TELEMEDICINE PROVISION. OF
MEDICATION ABORTION. A GREAT
DEAL OF RESEARCH INCLUDING
STUDIES THAT I LEAD. HAS
DOCUMENTED THAT TELEMEDICINE
PROVISION OF MEDICATION
ABORTION- IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE.
I KNOW THAT THEIR CLINICIANS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA WHO ARE EAGER
TO. PROVIDE THIS CARE TO
PATIENTS. IN OTHER STATES TO
HELP THEM ACCESS CARE EARLIER IN
PREGNANCY- THEN THAT WOULD BE
POSSIBLE IF THEY'RE FORCED. TO
TRAVEL. THE THREATS TO ACCESS TO
ABORTION CARE ARE ONLY GOING TO
GROW IN THE COMING MONTHS AND
YEARS- CALIFORNIA REALLY MUST DO
MORE. TO PROTECT ACCESS HERE AND
I BELIEVE PASSING SB THREE FORTY
FIVE. IS AN IMPORTANT STEP
TOWARD ADVANCING THESE
PROTECTIONS THANK YOU- ALSO. I
AM WRITING ON BEHALF OF DOCTOR
BUNDY BOIT. AS A PROVIDER OF
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE FOR THE
LAST TEN YEARS I CAN ATTEST TO
THE SURGE OF MEDICAL REFUGEES
COMING TO CALIFORNIA TO SEE
CARE. I SEE THE MY CLINIC EVERY
DAY THEY ARE INDEED REFUGEES
BECAUSE THERE IS A WAR
DISPLACING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
THAT IS RAGING AGAINST GENDER
RIGHTS AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.
THESE ARE HUMAN RIGHTS WE NEED
TO PROTECT. THE CASUALTIES ARE
UP ARE THAT UP 250% OF GENDER
DIVERSE INDIVIDUALS ATTEMPT
SUICIDE. WILL BE DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST IN SCHOOL THE WORKPLACE
AND EVEN THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE
THESE AREN'T JUST STATISTICS
THEIR DAILY LIFE OCCURRENCES FOR
MY PATIENTS. FROM FEAR OF COMING
OUT AS TRANS. WORKING FOR STATE
OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS TO DAILY
THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE LIVING
INSIDE THE BODY THEY HATE AND
CANNOT CHANGE SHOULD LOCAL LAWS
LACK OF HEALTH CARE AND FEAR. WE
NEED PROVIDERS FOR TRAUMA
INFORMED AND TRAINED. IN GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE TO BE PROTECTED
TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THIS
CARE. TELL ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
MAKE IT TO THEIR CLINICS. FROM A
PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE I ONLY MET
MY MEDICAL CREW TO THE FACT THAT
I HAD TO ACCESS. THAT I HAD
ACCESS TO ABORTION AND I FEEL A
DUTY TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE LIKE
ME WHO HAVE A FAMILY. JOB OR AN
EDUCATION THEY NEED TO PROTECT.
AND THE AUTONOMY TO DECIDE WHEN
PREGNANCY IS RIGHT FOR THEM. ONE
IN FOUR PEOPLE IN THE US HAVE AN
ABORTION. HAVE HAD AN ABORTION
AND DOING THEIR REPRODUCTIVE
LIVES TO LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM
THERE SOMEONE YOU KNOW. WHO
NEEDS CARE AND IT'S UP TO MAKE
TO YOU TO MAKE SURE PROVIDERS.
ARE PROTECTED TO ENSURE THEY GET
IT. WE CANNOT CHANGE THE HAVE A
POLICIES OF CERTAIN STATES. BUT
WE CAN SHOW OTHER STATES AND THE
PEOPLE IN THIS STATE THAT A
BETTER WORLD IS POSSIBLE. PEOPLE
HERE AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ARE
LOOKING TO US. TO SHOW HOW IT
CAN BE DONE IN THIS CURRENT
POLITICAL CLIMATE. CALIFORNIA
CAN CREATE SAFETY FOR THE
PEOPLE. THAT THEY THAT HAVE HAD
TO ABANDON THEIR HOMES. FAMILIES
OUR WORKPLACES FOR THEIR OWN
SAFETY. FOR THE SAFETY AND CARE
OF THE ONES THEY LOVE. BY
ENSURING THAT HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS ARE EMPOWERED. AND
INTERESTED TO DO THIS IMPORTANT
LIFESAVING WORK THANK YOU. GOING
BACK UNTIL BAKER CENTER IN
SUPPORT. LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
. CRIPPLES FOR QUALITY
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
DEFINITION ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA LATINAS FOR
REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THIRTY LA SALEM
BEHALF OF ACCESS REPRODUCTIVE
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
SHANNON OLIVERI HEALTHIEST
DIRECTOR OF NARAL PRO CHOICE
CALIFORNIA AT WERE SPONSORED IN
SUPPORT. YEAH. MY NAME IS SUSAN
SWIFTER AND ALL I AM A
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY AND I'M THE
VICE PRESIDENT OF LEGAL AFFAIRS
AT THE RIGHT TO LIFE LEAGUE
AMERICA'S FIRST PRO LIFE
ORGANIZATION. WHEN CALIFORNIA
JOINED THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA IT GAVE UP A PORTION OF
ITS SOVEREIGNTY. TO A FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AGREED TO UPHOLD THE
LAWS OF OTHER STATES IN THE
UNION. AND RECOGNIZE THE COURT'S
RULINGS EVEN IF WE DON'T ALWAYS
LIKE THEM. THE FULL FAITH AND
CREDIT CLAUSE PRECLUDES
CALIFORNIA FROM A DOT ADOPTING
ANY POLICY OF HOSTILITY TO THE
LAWS OF OTHER STATES. MUCH LIKE
SB THIRTY SIX ANOTHER BILL
PROMOTED BY SENATOR SKINNER. SB
THREE FORTY FIVE IS HOSTILE TO
LAWS OF OTHER STATES BECAUSE
THOSE STATES RESTRICT ABORTION.
THE BILL BLATANTLY VIOLATES THE
FULL FAITH AND CREDIT CLAUSE IT
PROHIBITS STATE ACTORS LIKE
POLICE JUDGES AND OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL FROM
COMPLYING WITH OTHER STATES LAWS
SUCH AS VALID ARREST WARRANT OR
COOPERATING WITH A LAWFUL
SUBPOENA FOR RECORDS WHERE THE
UNDERLYING MATTER CONCERNS
ABORTION FOR EXAMPLE THROUGH
TELEHEALTH MEDICINE. SB THREE
FORTY FIVE EVEN CRIMINALIZES OUT
OF STATE DISCOVERY REQUESTS
RELATING TO ABORTION. SB THREE
FORTY FIVE IGNORES THE VALIDITY
OF OTHER STATES ABORTION
RESTRICTIONS AND ACTUALLY ACTS
TO FRUSTRATE AND CRIMINALIZE
THEIR ENFORCEMENT. THE BILL'S
SWEEPING LANGUAGE EVENTS IS A
SPECIAL POLICY OF HOSTILITY
TOWARDS OTHER STATES MAKING THE
BILL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ON ITS
FACE. YOU MAY NOT LIKE OTHER
STATES LIMITS ON ABORTIONS YOU
MAY DISAGREE WITH OTHER STATES
PROSECUTING PEOPLE WHO BREAK
THEIR LAWS ON ABORTION BUT THAT
DOES NOT MEAN THAT CALIFORNIA
CAN REFUSE TO ENFORCE OTHER
STATES VALID SUBPOENAS OR
DISCOVERY REQUESTS CONCERNING
ABORTION. CALIFORNIA CANS
SECEDED FROM THE UNION BUT UNTIL
IT DOES IT MUST RECOGNIZE AND
RESPECT OTHER STATES LAWS
PURSUANT TO THE FULL FAITH AND
CREDIT CLAUSE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME PLEASE VOTE NO. SEE NON.
CONFERENCE MODERATOR ON. TO
PROVIDE COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION FOR SB THREE FOUR
FIVE. PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO. WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE FOUR
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE FOUR
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS NATALIE BURNED DOWN AND
IT CARRYING IN NEW YORK STATE
I'M REPRESENTING OUR YOUNG
MEDICAL CLINIC HI GOES IN. AND
OUT. ONE FOUR FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. LAWRENCE WASHINGTON
REUTER IN STRONG SUPPORT OF- SO
. THREE FOUR FIVE. BY NINETY
TWO. THE DOCTOR CALPERS BOND
QUITS FOR A FEW PRINTER
COLLECTIVELY THAT FAMILY
MEDICINE RESIDENCY AND BOOK A
PER PROVIDER OF ABORTIONS AND
ALSO- DINNER FOR ME KAREN IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF ITSELF. AT THE
THREE FOUR FIVE. PINE SIX.
TRANSACTION PAPER I PROVIDE
ABORTION CARE AN INDEPENDENT
CLINICS IN RURAL CALIFORNIA AND
ARIZONA AND THE TELEHEALTH
PROVIDER IN KANSAS AND I
REPRESENT TEN CALIFORNIA DOCTORS
WORKING AT MY CAMPUS CLINIC ARE
YOU MEDICAL WE NEED YOUR
PROTECTION AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB THREE FORTY FIVE.
FIND ONE FOURTEEN. AYE DADDY
WITH OAKLAND PRIVACY IN SUPPORT
OF SB THREE FOUR FIVE. FINE. ONE
THIRTY. HI MY NAME IS ON A FIVE
YEAR COULD HE NOW- REPRESENTING
OUR IN MEDICAL CLINIC IN KANSAS
HOLDEN HELP IN NEW MEXICO- AND
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB THREE FOUR
FIVE. NINE ONE THREE SEVEN. HI
MY NAME IS SEAN DEBBIE JACOBS
I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL I'M REPRESENTING I'M HERE
ON BEHALF OF. BLACK WOMEN
LAWYERS OF LOS ANGELES
INCORPORATED CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF BLACK LAWYERS THE
CONFERENCE OF CALIFORNIA BAR
ASSOCIATION JOHN M. LANGSTON BAR
ASSOCIATION AND WOMEN LAWYERS
ASSOCIATION OF LOS ANGELES AND
WE ALL STRONGLY SUPPORT SB.
THIRTY THREE FORTY FIVE THANK
YOU SO MUCH. FAIR NO FURTHER
COMMENT THANK YOU AT THIS TIME-
MOVING THE CONVERSATION TO
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. SEEING
NONE- AGAIN I JUST WANNA THANK
YOU SENATOR SKINNER FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD- I'M HAPPY TO
MOVE BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS.
WIENER OKAY YES GOOD SENSE- YES
WE THIS BILL- WE'VE GOT
PRESIDENT- NEW YORK HAS NOW AT
THE STATE SENATE AS ACTED IN THE
ASSEMBLY IS CONSIDERING AND THE
GOVERNOR'S ALREADY GOVERNOR
HOTELS ALREADY INDICATED HER-
AWAITING IT FOR HER DESK FOR
SIGNATURE. AND MASSACHUSETTS
ENACTED SUCH A LAW LAST YEAR AND
WE NOW HAVE COLORADO MAINE
VERMONT AND NUMBER OF OTHER
STATES WHO ARE INTRODUCING YES
AND OF COURSE SCHEDULE
CALIFORNIA- INTRODUCING SUCH
LAWS AND WITH THAT HI AS FOR
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU- SENATOR
DO WE HAVE A MOTION. YEAH IF I
AND I OPPOSED I JUST WANT TO I
THE BILL AND I WANT TO THANK YOU
ALL FOR BRING THIS FORWARD LAST
YEAR WITH US THE ONE OF SEVEN
AND THEN- SIMILAR BILLS IN THE
ABORTION SPACE BY SEVERAL
MEMBERS- WE TOOK A BIG FIRST
STEP. PROTECTING PEOPLE AND I'M
VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR
CONTINUING WORK IN THE SPACE
THANK YOU. OKAY SO THE BILL HAS
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR WIENER CAN
WE CALL ROLE. J. CLOSER YES VERY
SB THREE FORTY FIVE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO DO JUST YEAR TO THIS
YEAR COMMITTEE. CENTER WILL HOP
I HOP I WHICH OF A- BRADFORD.
SKINNER FIVE. HI WIENER. RIGHT
WIENER AYE. THE LOCALS OKAY AND-
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO EVERY
SINGLE BILL. RIGHT TIME. THE
FINAL.
SO SB TWO THIRTY SEVEN. MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE IS WANTED TO. SHARE
VOTING NOW WIENER NO WIENER NOW
. THE REQUESTED AND RELAX BILL'S
BEEN GRANTED RECONSIDERATION AND
IT- IT FAILS. I AM TOO SB THREE
TWENTY FIVE OF THEM WE DID NO I
DON'T I DON'T GET INTO THAT ONE
I'M SORRY IT WAS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
ONE TWO ZERO WIENER NO WIENER
NOW. FAILS RIGHT TO THAT TIME
KILLED THREE FORTY FIVE FEELS.
CONSIDER IN RECONSIDERATION HAS
BEEN CRAFTING ITEMS THREE FOUR.
FIVE WE'RE DONE SIX WAS PULLED.
SEVEN NINE EIGHT NINE WE NEED TO
KNOW IT NINE. I'M INTERESTED IN
AGAINST- SB SEVEN THIRTY THREE
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
ONE TO TWO BRADFORD WIENER NOW
WE ARE NOW. RIGHT SO THAT ONE
WILL LEAVE SB SEVEN THREE THREE
ON CALL AND NOW WE'LL GO TO SB
EIGHT FOUR THREE CORRECT THE
ITEM TEN MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE TWO ZERO WIENER HI. WIENER
AYE RIGHT SB EIGHT FOUR THREE
IS- AFTER WE WILL LEAVE IT ON
CALL BUT IT RIGHT NOW HAS- FOR
VOTE ITEM ELEVEN WAS DISPENSED
WITH- SO. SB TWO ROW ITEM ITEM
THIRTEEN OKAY ITEM THIRTEEN SB
FOUR FOUR NINE CORRECT MOTIONS
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTERS FORTY ZERO WIENER
. BRADFORD THE TONIGHT PLEASE
ENTER A FIVE K. S. B. FOUR NINE
OUT FIVE TWO ZERO. S. SIX SEVEN
THREE ITEM NUMBER FOURTEEN
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
FORTY ZERO WIENER WIENER AYE
FILLS OUT. SB SIX SEVEN THREE IS
OUT FIVE ZERO CORRECT IN THE
LAST ONE. PLEASE ME AS IF OUT
FIVE TO ZERO S. B. H. R. OKAY SO
WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE IF
PRIVATE COMING FROM THE OKAY
BRADFORD. CAN YOU STAY A LITTLE
BIT. STATE EVEN THE ONES TO BE
HERE ME.
HELLO FROM THE ROLE ON NUMBER
NINE SB SEVEN THIRTY THREE SB SB
SEVEN THIRTY SEVEN THIRTY THREE
THE PAST YEAR APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE IS ONE TO THREE
BRADFORD WHAT ELSE IT'S A SEVEN
DISCLOSURE SOLITARY NOBODY
BRADFORD NOT VOTING ONE BILL
RIGHT SO THAT BILL FAILS IT'S A
THREE ONE TWO THREE ONE GRANT
RECONSIDERATION GRANTED NOW WILL
GO TO A NUMBER TEN S. B. EIGHT
FORTY THREE. MISTER GLAZER
FACTUAL INNOCENCE GO AHEAD MOST
ALL THE PASSWORD TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTERS
FORTY ZERO BRADFORD BRADFORD I'D
SO THAT BILL PASSES IT'S OUT
IT'S A FIVE TWO ZERO NINE WILL
GO TO THE FINAL BILL WHICH IS
NUMBER FIFTEEN SB THREE FORTY
FIVE HE IS DO YOU PASS TO
JUDICIARY CURRENT VOTE IS THREE
TWO ZERO BRADFORD AYE. BRADFORD
AYE THE BILL PASSES IT'S FOUR
ZERO AND A THREE FORTY FIVES OUT
AND WITH THAT. PUBLIC SAFETY IS
ADJOURNED.