THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY UTILITIES
AND COMMUNICATIONS WILL COME TO
ORDER GOOD MORNING THE SENATE
WILL CONTINUE TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC IN PERSON AND VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS THE
INDIVIDUAL FOR INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR TODAY'S- HEARING THE
PARTICIPANTS COLD NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 THAT'S.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. SEVEN THREE SIX TWO EIGHT
THREE FOUR. AGAINST. SEVEN THREE
SIX TWO EIGHT THREE FOUR WE'RE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARING
NO- STREET BUILDING I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO BE
PRESENT IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED
SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM WE
WILL START TODAY AS A SUB
COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE
MIGHT CALL ARM WE HAVE TWO BILLS
ON TODAY'S AGENDA R. S. B.
EIGHTY THREE BY SENATOR WINNER
HAS BEEN FULL OF PORT BY THE
AUTHOR AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON
CONSENT SB THREE OH FIVE BY
SENATOR STERN- THAT IT'S
ELIGIBLE FOR. CONCERT OUR BEFORE
WE HEAR THE BILL'S LIKE TO STOP
THE QUORUM- WHICH WE'RE STILL
SHORT OKAY. SO WILL BEGIN AS A-
SUBCOMMITTEE. AND WE HAVE-
CENTER ARCHULETA PREPARED SO WE
CAN START WITH HIS MEASURE SB.
SIX SIX THREE.
TODAY I REPRESENT THE SENATE
BILL SIX SIX THREE RELATED TO
CALIFORNIA'S RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO
STANDARD PROGRAM ALSO KNOWN AS
OUR PS. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY
THANKING THE CHAIR AND HIS
COMMITTEE AND THE STAFF. FOR
WORKING WITH ME AND I AGREED TO
ACCEPT ALL THE COMMITTEE
SUGGESTED. AMENDMENTS SB SIX SIX
THREE THE FINE PRINT EUROPOL
HYDROGEN AND ADDS RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN AS A RENEWABLE ENERGY
RESOURCE UNDER THE RENEWABLE
PORTFOLIO STANDARD. SENATE BILL
SIX SIX THREE DEFINES RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN AND CONSISTENT WITH
PRIOR OUR PS LEGISLATION AND IN
TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL WAY.
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN IS AN
IMPORTANT SCALABLE COMMERCIALLY
READY DECARBONISE FUEL FOR
CALIFORNIA THAT CAN DISPLACE
FOSSIL FUEL ECONOMY WIDE.
VERTICALLY FOR DIFFICULT TO
DECARBONISE SECTORS SUCH AS LONG
HAUL TRUCKING MARITIME SHIPPING
AND AVIATION. IT ALSO IS
CRITICAL FOR ACHIEVING 1100%
RENEWABLE IN THE POWER SECTOR.
AS CAN BE USED TO STORE AND
LATER GENERATE RENEWABLE
ELECTRICITY FOR DAYS WEEKS EVEN
SEASONAL NEEDS. CALIFORNIA OUR
PS WAS ESTABLISHED OVER TWENTY
YEARS AGO AND WHILE HYDROGEN WAS
INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM
NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THE
ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY
HYDROGEN'S MADE EVER SINCE THEN
. THIS BILL RECOGNIZES THAT
PROGRESS AND MODERNIZES OUR OUR
PS CODE TO ALLOW NEWER
TECHNOLOGIES TO UTILIZE
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN TO PRODUCE
ELECTRICITY FOR THE RENEWABLE
PORTFOLIO STANDARD. IN ADDITION
SENATE BILL SIX SIX THREE ALLOWS
FOR THE RE PURPOSING OF EXISTING
NATURAL GAS POWER PLANTS THIS
HYDROGEN TURBINES. WITH THE GOAL
OF ACHIEVING CLEAN POWER AND
AFFORDABLE AND RELIABLE 1100%
RENEWABLE POWER GRID. WAS SENATE
BILL SIX SIX THREE CALIFORNIA
WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE AWAY FROM
OUR RELIANCE ON NATURAL GAS AND
INTO A CLEAN RE NOT RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN FUTURE. FOR THESE
REASONS I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE ON SENATE BILL SIX SIX
THREE. AND WITH ME TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IS JANICE
LYNN FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF
THE HYDROGEN GREEN HYDROGEN
COALITION. OUR MISSILE AND YOU
HAVE TO MANAGE. THANK YOU CHAIR
MEMBERS PER SHARE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY I'M
THE FOUNDER THE GREEN HYDROGEN
COALITION AN EDUCATIONAL
NONPROFIT THAT'S DEDICATED TO
ADVANCING OUR CLEAN AND JUST
ENERGY TRANSITION WE'RE PLEASED
TO SPONSOR SENATE BILL SIX SIX
THREE AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK
SENATOR ARCHULETA. FOR AUTHORING
THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. WE HAVE BEEN
STUDYING THE POTENTIAL FOR
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN IN CALIFORNIA
FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS AND
I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT AT
SCALE CALIFORNIA CAN PRODUCE.
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN AT PRICES
COMPETITIVE WITH FOSSIL FUELS SO
HOW DO WE GET THERE. SENATE BILL
SIX SIX THREE IS ABSOLUTELY KEY
FIRST AS SENATOR SAID THIS BILL
ESTABLISHES A TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL
DEFINITION OF RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN. THIS ENABLES US TO
LEVERAGE OUR ABUNDANT RENEWABLE
RESOURCES AND ENSURES
COMPETITION AND INNOVATION.
SECOND THE BILL UPDATES OUR OUR
PS TO REPURPOSE EXISTING
INFRASTRUCTURE TO PRODUCE LONG
DURATION ZERO CARBON POWER ON
DEMAND. WITH THIS OUR POWER
SECTOR CAN TRULY ACHIEVE A 100%
RENEWABLES AFFORDABLY AND
RELIABLY. RENEWABLE HYDROGEN
ALLOWS US TO STORE ARE ABUNDANT
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND USE IT WHEN
WE NEED IT WILL MINIMIZE
RENEWABLE CURTAILED ELECTRICITY
AND PUT PROBLEMATIC ORGANIC
WASTE TO GOOD USE. FINALLY THIS
BILL IS SO ESSENTIAL NOW BECAUSE
THE POWER SECTOR ISN'T IDEAL
APPLICATION TO SCALE RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN. DEMAND A SINGLE POWER
PLANT CAN PROVIDE NEEDED
CERTAINTY TO DRIVE LARGE SCALE
PRODUCTION THEREBY DRIVING DOWN
COST. LOWER COST CAN ACCELERATE
ADOPTION IN OTHER SECTORS THAT
THE SENATOR MENTIONED MARITIME
SHIPPING HEAVY DUTY TRUCKING
EVEN AVIATION. THE POWER SECTOR
AND THE CHANGES ENVISIONED AND
SB SIX SIX THREE OR A NECESSARY
CATALYST FREE SKILLED GREEN
HYDROGEN ECONOMY IN CALIFORNIA I
RESPECTFULLY URGE HER AYE VOTE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR WE
CONTINUE- CONSULTING WITH STOPS
QUORUM.
ALL RIGHT WE'LL CONTINUE WOULD
WITNESSES- IN SUPPORT STATE YOUR
NAME IN YOUR ORGANIZATION PUSH.
RIGHT MCHALE'S GROW HERE BEHALF
CALIFORNIA HOW DO BUSINESS
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. MISTER
CHAIRMAN ISRAEL SALAS HERE ON
BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO GAS AND
ELECTRIC AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
GAS AND SUPPORT. MISTER SHARE MY
BOTTOM HALF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. A GOOD
MORNING JORDAN CURLY UP HALF THE
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN K. COALITION
SUPPORT. THANK YOU ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE AND
SUPPORT NOW LET'S MOVE TO WITH
THIS IN OPPOSITION ARE THERE
WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM WHO
WERE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ROGER
. PLEASE COME. FOR CRISTINA
STORAGE FOR THE CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN
OPPOSITION. OUR MODERATOR NOW
LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LINES INTO
THIRDS WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
OPPOSITION OF. SB SIX SIX THREE.
AND ONCE AGAIN FOR SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION OF THIS PLEASE PRESS
ONE AND THEN ZERO ON YOUR PHONE
. ONCE AGAIN THE FIRST SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION FROM THE PHONES
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO WE DO
HAVE ONE ONE MOMENT PLEASE. WITH
. ABOUT WHY NUMBER. NINETEEN
RENDERED BY WITH THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT AND
WORK AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING ABOUT
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER IN
Q. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
KNOW OUR BRING BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS- WELL WILL
AT APPROPRIATE TIME WE GOT TO
STOP FORM SO. ALL RIGHT SENATOR
BECKER. SURE SURE THANK YOU FOR
THIS BILL I'M I THINK- OVERALL
THIS VERY GOOD IDEA AND A LOT OF
GOOD STUFF IN THIS BILL SO I AM
PLENTY SUPPORTED TODAY- I JUST I
DO THINK THAT- WE- WE HAVE TO
GET THE DEFINITION OF A HYDROGEN
RIGHT. AND- AND THAT'S CRITICAL
AND WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER
LECTURES ROGER NOBLE WE REALLY
SB ZERO CARBON OR CLOSE TO. ZERO
AND- SEEMS TO STUDIES THAT SHOW
EVEN USING ELECTROLYTIC COTCHIN
COULD CAUSE AN INCREASE IN TOTAL
EMISSIONS UNLESS WE'RE CAREFUL
ABOUT. WHAT ELECTRICITY IS USED
TO MAKE THE HYDROGEN SO I KNOW
THE SAUCE TO BE DEBATED AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL AS THEY
TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT MAYBE WE
WANT TO CONSIDER ALIGNING
OURSELVES WITH THAT. I'M BUT- I
GUESS I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CC
CLEAN HYDROGEN PROGRAM
DEFINITION PROPOSED IN THE
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS- DO YOU
KNOW IF IT FOLLOWS HOURLY
MATCHING. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
ONE OF THE KEY POINTS HERE DO
YOU DO YOU KNOW. IF YOU CANCERS
AND FOR THAT- I'LL BRING UP MY
TECHNICAL. ASSISTANT HERE. IT TO
BAKER CREEK- THE CDC'S DEF THAT
WAS ENSURE IN A TWO TO NOT READ
HOURLY MAN. THOUGH THIS
SOMETHING THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT
VERY CAREFULLY BY BOTH THE
HYDROGEN INDUSTRY THE DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY INTERNATIONAL
INSTITUTIONS AND THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT THE G. H. YOU
KNOW. OUR MISSION. IS TO END
FOSSIL FUELS AND FIGHT CLIMATE
CHANGE SO- THE G. H. SHE WE HAVE
A EXTREMELY VESTED INTEREST TO
MAKE SURE THAT RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN WHEN IT'S PRODUCED IS
TRULY CLEAN. DISHES THAT WERE IN
THE MIDST OF FIGURING THAT OUT
AND WE DON'T WANNA GET AHEAD OF
THE FEDERAL LEGISLATION EITHER.
YUP WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT YEAH
I THINK THAT LIKE I SAID I THINK
THERE THERE COULD BE. REASON YOU
JUST PUT IN HEY WELL WIDE WITH
YOU KNOW WHAT IT WHATEVER THAT
THAT- COMES UP WITH SORT IT BUT
YOU KNOW AGAIN I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT AS YOU SAY IT'S STILL
KIND OF PROCESS AND- AND- JUST
IMPORTANT TO GET RIGHT MAY THINK
OF THREE PRINCIPLES THAT. THAT
I'LL BE LOOKING AT IS TO WIDEN
WHAT MAKE SURE COMES FROM NEW
RENEWABLE GENERATION. TO
CULTURAL LOCAL RENEWABLE
RESOURCES- DELIVERED THE SAME
GRADE AS A HYDROGEN PRODUCTION
AND THEN THIRD AS WE MENTION OUR
THE MATCHING LECTURED BUT WE
GENERATE THE SAME HOUR. AS
LECTURES WHO USED TO MAKE
HYDROGEN- YOU KNOW OTHERWISE
WERE PRODUCING AT NIGHT AND JUST
BUYING OF SOLAR POWER OF THE
COURSE YEAR COVER LOAD AND-
THEN. YOU KNOW RUNNING GAS
PLANTS AT NIGHT TO. TO MAKE YOUR
HYDROGEN SO IF I GET I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS BILL I THINK
IT'S- A- REALLY IMPORTANT BILL
AND GOOD IN CONCEPT BUT- IF BOTH
WE DON'T COME UP WITH A
DEFINITION THAT THAT. THAT
FOLLOWS THOSE THREE PRINCIPLES
ARE HAVE TROUBLE. SUPPORTING IT-
GOING FORWARD. ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS COMMENTS CENTER NO.
THE EIGHT YARD CARRY. IS I JUST
TO. KNOW I DO A PRE CENTER
BACKERS CA- I'M AS WERE THE BILL
AS YOU KNOW A BIG AT. OF HARD IT
BUT WE NEED TO. HAVE CLARITY
AROUND ALL THESE USE- SO THAT AS
A POLICY MAKING BY. THE WE CAN
MOVE BEYOND SORT OF
DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT COLORS OF
ARJUN. TO THE MORE IMPORTANT
QUESTION ABOUT HOW TO FIND THE
RESOURCES- AND CREATE PLANS TO
ACTUALLY ADD- TO OUR CAPACITORS
SO BE IT YOU KNOW JUST WANTED.
UP APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS I
KNOW YOU WORK. WITH HIM AND
OTHERS TO DO THAT- IT HAPPENS
WITH BUILDINGS. THANK YOU SIR
EGGMAN. I JUST LIKE THE LIKE TO
ECHO SO. NEWMAN REMARKS WE HAVE
A LOT OF WE- WE CREATE A LOT OF
WASTE IN THIS WORLD. AND WE ARE
A PART OF THE WHOLE LEAST CHAIN
ASSOCIATION AND SO WE NEED TO
MAKE THE BEST USE OF THAT WE CAN
STOP PRETENDING LIKE THAT'S NOT
REAL. SO I SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY. AND LOOK FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING IT WHEN HE GETS TO
THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. ANY
FURTHER. COMMENTS GREAT-
SURCHARGE LETTER HEARD YOU STATE
YOU'RE TAKING ALL THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. YES SIR. AND I JUST
WILL STATE THEM RIGHT NOW TO
ALIGN THE DEFINITION OF
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN. IN THIS BILL
TO THE DEFINITION USED BY THE
CDC'S CLEAN ARJUN PROGRAM. TO
CLARIFY THE EMISSIONS
REQUIREMENTS OF POWER FACILITIES
THAT REAP ARE USING- HYDROGEN
AND DELETE THE PROVISION STOPS
IN RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD
CRITERIA FOR HYDROGEN. PROCURED
FROM COMMON CARRIER PIPELINES IS
THAT CORRECT THAT IS CORRECT
OKAY SO APPROPRIATE TIME WHEN WE
HAVE A QUORUM ON. WE WILL SEEK A
MOTION FOR THIS BILL- WOULD YOU
LIKE CLOSE YES THANK YOU THIS
YEAR I JUST LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. HERE IN
CALIFORNIA EVERYONE LOOKS TO US
TO GO FORWARD ESPECIALLY WHAT
WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE
ENVIRONMENT. AND I THINK WE'RE
MAKING HISTORY AS WE MOVE
FORWARD. AND IF WE TURN THE
CLOCK BACK TWENTY YEARS AGO THE
WORD HYDROGEN WAS WITH WASN'T
EVEN ON OUR RADAR NOW IT'S
PRODUCING IT'S THERE. AND IT IS
THE WAY OF THE FUTURE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE I
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THE
APPROPRIATE TIME WILL GET A
MOTION FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT SHE
OTHER- ENOUGH AUDIENCE CENTERED
TO LOOK TO PRESENT YOUR BILL TO
START.
THAT'S FILE ITEM NINE S. BEFORE
TEN. WHAT YOU'RE BRADFORD
MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR UP 2% S.
B. FOR TEN. I WOULD BE CLEAR
ACCEPTING ALL THE PROPOSED
COMMITTEE MEASUREMENTS IN
CONCEPT RIGHT NOW AND EVER
AGREED TO CONTINUE WORKING ON
ONE LAST PIECE THE MEMBERS WITH
THE COMMITTEE- GOING FORWARD. AT
. THE ENERGY STATION PROJECTS
WHICH HAVE BEEN QUICKLY REFERRED
TO AS INTERCONNECTION PROJECTS
HELPED ENSURE THE DISTRIBUTION
GRID CAN HOLD SUFFICIENT
ELECTRONS TO POWER ALL BUILDINGS
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN A
CALIFORNIA SITES TO CONNECTING
YOU OF ELECTRIC APPLIANCE EEVEE
CHARGER. PORT TO CONNECT A NEW
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THESE
ELECTRICAL GRID UPGRADES ARE
NECESSARY TO KEEP THE GRID
FUNCTIONING AND STABLE. AS MORE
HOMES AND BUSINESSES ARE BUILT
AS THEY SWITCHED OVER TO CLIMATE
FRIENDLY ELECTRIC APPLIANCES AND
IF THINGS START. EVEY CHARGERS
OR UPGRADE THEIR PANELS THAT
GRACE NEED TO ELECT TO THE
ELECTRICITY DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM
CONTINUE. AND WILL CONTINUE TO
GROW. IN THE LONG RUN PLENTY FOR
THE INCREASED ELECTRICITY GRID
CAPACITY WILL REQUIRE PLANNING
AND COST FOR SITE FROM ACTUALLY
CHILES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU
SEE. TO MEET OUR CLIMBING AND
HOUSING NEEDS NOW. HOWEVER
CALIFORNIA EXPERIENCING DELAYS
IN THE TIME IT TAKES TO CHILL IS
COMPLETE THESE ELECTRIFICATION
PROJECTS FOR EXAMPLE CONNECTIONS
EASY FAST CHARGERS. IN PGD
TERRITORY WHERE ON AVERAGE
SEVENTY WEEKS IN TWENTY TWENTY
TO. THIS BILL REQUIRES A PC TO
PLAN AND SET GUIDANCE FOR HOW TO
ACCOMMODATE THESE GROWING
ELECTRICITY GRID CONNECTION
REQUESTS. IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE
CURRENT DELAYS THAT WERE BEEN
HEARING SO MUCH ABOUT A
RECENTLY- IN THE PRESS AND WE
FEATURE FROM CONSTITUENTS. AND
TO PREVENT PREEMPTIVELY PREVENT
FUTURE DELAYS. TO DO SO THE
PUC'S REQUIRED SAID AN AVERAGE
AND MAXIMUM TIME FRAME. WHICH
ELECTRICAL UTILITIES SHOULD
CONNECT CUSTOMERS TO THE GRID.
AFTER SETTING THESE TARGETS THE
CHILES ARE REQUIRED TO CREATE A
STRATEGY TO MEET THESE TARGETS.
INCLUDING ENSURING SUFFICIENT
WORKFORCE TRAINING AND
DEVELOPMENT. AND QUIT WORKING
GROUP AND ANNUAL STANDARDS ON
HOW TO IMPROVE CURRENT DELAYS.
IF NEEDED THE PC IS PERMITTED TO
TAKE REMEDIAL ACTIONS TO ENSURE
COMPLIANCE. THIS FORESIGHT
PLANNING WILL ENSURE THE
CALIFORNIA ELECTRICITY CUSTOMERS
ARE VERY WITH THE TIMELY AND
NECESSARY ELECTRICITY SERVICE.
TO MAKE SURE THE STATE MEET OUR
CLIMATE GOALS AND OUR HOUSING
NEEDS. WITH ME TODAY ARE MARK
JOSEPH- ON BEHALF OF THE
COALITION OF CALIFORNIA UTILITY
EMPLOYEES. ALL RIGHT BEFORE WE
HEAR FROM MISTER JOSEPH LET'S-
TO STOP YOU QUORUM. HE DID HE
LEAVE. RPR IT'S JUST YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES. THANK MISS MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MY NAME IS MARK
JOSEPH I'M TESTIFYING ON BEHALF
OF THE COALITION OF CALIFORNIA
UTILITY EMPLOYEES. WHOSE MEMBER
UNIONS REPRESENT EMPLOYEES THAT
NEARLY ALL OF THE INVESTOR OWNED
AND PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITIES. IN
CALIFORNIA. TO ME CALIFORNIA'S
DECARBONIZATION GOALS CARS
TRUCKS BUSES BUSINESSES AND
BUILDINGS WILL USE MUCH MORE
ELECTRICITY. THIS MEANS THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS MUST
INCREASE THEIR CAPACITY AND
UTILITIES MUST CONNECT AND
UPGRADE CUSTOMERS. YET WE ARE
SEEING LONG DELAYS. GETTING THE
V. CHARGERS NEW HOMES BUSINESSES
AND WHOLE COMMUNITIES CONNECTED
. SB FOUR TEN ADDRESSES THIS
PROBLEM IN TWO WAYS. FIRST IT
WOULD REQUIRE THE UTILITIES TO
DO BETTER PLANNING TO ANTICIPATE
THE NEEDS THAT THEY SHOULD BE
ABLE TO SEE COMING. STATE AND
LOCAL AGENCIES ARE ADOPTING
ELECTRIFICATION POLICIES UTILITY
SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED BY
INCREASING REQUESTS BY THEIR
CUSTOMERS. TO CONNECT. SECOND IT
WOULD REQUIRE THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION TO
ESTABLISH A COLLABORATIVE
WORKING GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS
AND EXPERTS AND THEN ADOPT
STANDARDS FOR HOW LONG THE
UTILITIES HAVE TO CONNECT
CUSTOMERS IN VARIOUS SITUATIONS
. THE UTILITIES WOULD HAVE TO
REPORT THEIR PERFORMANCE AND IF
THEY FALL SHORT THE COMMISSION
WOULD BE REQUIRED. TO REQUIRE
THE UTILITY TO TAKE REMEDIAL
ACTIONS SO THAT THEY MEET THE
STANDARDS. THE POLICE WOULD HAVE
TO BE SURE THEY HAVE THE
TRAINING QUALIFIED WORK FORCE.
ABLE TO DO THE WORK- SO THAT WE
CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE
NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. ONE TO TWO
THINGS PARTICULARLY ABOUT COSTS
TO RATEPAYERS. THIS PROGRAM DOES
NOT MEAN THE UTILITIES WOULD
SPEND MONEY THAT IS NOT
NECESSARY WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE
NOT BE SPENT. THEY WOULD JUST
HAVE TO SPEND IT ON TIME SO THAT
CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE LONG WAITS
TO GET CONNECTED. AND SECOND AS
LECTURES TO THE USAGE GOES UP WE
CAN SPREAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE
COSTS OVER MORE KILOWATT HOURS
THIS WILL PUT DOWNWARD PRESSURE
ON RATES. THIS IS A PRAGMATIC
BILL TO ENSURE THAT WE GET PROP
CONNECTIONS FROM RETAILERS WE
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT HERE IN THE
ROOM. STATE YOUR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION THANK YOU. EMILY
PAPPAS ON BEHALF OF KELSEY CA IN
SUPPORT. ALICIA PRIEGO ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF SAN JOSE AND SAN
JOSE CLEAN ENERGY. CATHERINE
BRANDENBURG ON BEHALF OF CINEMA
CLEAN POWER. MISTER CHAIRMAN
ISRAEL SALAS WITH SAN DIEGO GAS
AND ELECTRIC A SUPPORTER OF THE
INTENT DIRECTION AND APPROACH AS
OUTLINED BY THE AUTHOR THANK YOU
. MISTER CHAIRMAN A MEMBER SCOTT
WHICH SHOULD BE OFF THE STATE
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS IN SUPPORT. MERION
PARTISAN WITH NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. A
GOOD MORNING HUNTER STERN WITH
IBEW LOCAL TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS
DEVINA FLEMING'S ON BEHALF OF
PG&E WE HAVE NOT ADOPTED AN
OFFICIAL POSITION ON THE BILL
HOWEVER WE ARE WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE AUTHOR AND
SCOTT SPONSORS TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS. I FIRST WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THOUGH THAT PG&E IS
SPENDING MORE ON CAPACITY
INVESTMENT THAN WE EVER HAVE IN
THE PAST AND- WE KNOW THAT THIS
IS NOT ENOUGH. TO MEET OUR
CURRENT- CUSTOMER NEEDS AND
WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN TO-
IMPROVE OUR CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT
AND TO MEET FUTURE NEEDS OF OUR
CUSTOMERS- I WANT TO THANK AGAIN
THE AUTHOR FOR HIS WORK ON THIS
BILL AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU AS THE BILL
MOVES FORWARD THANK YOU. ALSO
SORRY I HAVE A MAPPING TOUR WITH
ME HERE TODAY WHO'S PG&E SENIOR
DIRECTOR OF SERVICE PLANNING TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE
COMMITTEE MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR
PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE
MAKING THANK YOU. THE QUICKNESS
. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DANNY
CURTAIN CALIFORNIA CONFERENCE OF
CARPENTERS IN SUPPORT OF YOUR
BILL AS YOU KNOW WE'RE VERY
INTERESTED IN ANY LONG TERM
STUDIES OF THE NATURE OF THIS
PROBLEM AND I THINK IT'S JUST
THE BEGINNING OF WHERE WE NEED
TO GO. THANK YOU. MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS P. ANTHONY
THOMAS CALIFORNIA BUILDING
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION CVA WE'VE
NOT. TAKEN A POSITION ON THE
BILL THIS AS YET BUT WE DO
BELIEVE THAT THE BILL IS
THOUGHTFUL- IT DOES HOLD.
ENTITIES ACCOUNTABLE AND IT DOES
ESTABLISH A SYSTEM OF PLANNING
SO WE PLAN TO IN FACT SPEAK WITH
THE OF THE AUTHOR AND HOPEFULLY
BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH SOME TYPE
OF A POOR. AND SUPPORT THE BILL
EVENTUALLY. DO THINK IT'S A
GROUP THAT A GOOD MOVE IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION MISTER CHAIRMAN
. ALL RIGHT LET'S MOVE THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION ARE
THERE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION OF THIS MEASURE.
XINING HEARING NONE MODERATOR
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES INTO
AFTER. IT INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. BOB SB FOUR TO.
THANK YOU AND YOU CAN GET
CHEAPER PRESSING ONE AND THEN
ZERO. WE'LL GO TO LINE OF TWENTY
SEVEN. HI JOHN KENNEDY WITH THE
RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU WE'LL GO NEXT LINE
TWENTY SIX. YEAH MARC
REQUIREMENT ACTUALLY CALIFORNIA
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR THE
NEXT TO LINE TWENTY EIGHT.
MORNING MY NAME IS RICK THOMPSON
I AM IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU AND
WHILE GARDEN. NEXT DOOR I AM
THIRTY ONE. HELLO CAN YOU HEAR
ME. CATALLO CAN'T. BIGHERO OKAY
SORRY MY NAME IS MARTY FERGUSON
AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE CLIMATE
JUSTICE SUBCOMMITTEE IT
INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA WITH.
MORE THAN EIGHTY THOUSAND
MEMBERS IN THE STATE WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB TWO THREE THREE THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION ALL RIGHT MODERATE
LESS PAUL'S ART TESTIMONY IN THE
TWO STOPS RECORDING PLEDGE.
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. BRADFORD HERE. DALLY ASHBY
HERE SB HERE BECKER BECKER HERE
CAVIAR CAVIAR HERE DIED. DIED
HERE DORADO RAZA HERE EGGMAN
EGGMAN HERE GONZALEZ GROWTH
MCGUIRE MEN MEN HERE NEWMAN
NEWMAN HERE RUBIO C. R. TWO.
SKINNER STERN WILK PRESIDENT
WILL PRESENT. KERN HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED WILL GO BACK TO OUR
PHONE LINES MODERATOR PLEASE.
AND ONCE AGAIN IT'S A ONE AND
ZERO. WE HAVE NO. ONE MOMENT
PLEASE. IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE ONE
MOMENT WERE GIVEN THE MAYOR LINE
NUMBER. IT WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER TWENTY NINE GRANTS IN THE
WIND YESTERDAY. EVEN THINK OF
WHAT. THANK YOU WE HAVE NO
FURTHER IN Q. THANK YOU NOW WILL
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OTHER
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BYE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THIS
MEASURE. SENATE EGGMAN. I THINK
YOU THINK YOU BRING THIS FOR
DUST CENTER BECKER AND I'M
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY BUT-
YOU KNOW MANY OF US WHO WHO-
ESPECIALLY WHO SERVE IN THE P.
JEANNIE AREA ARE FREQUENTLY HAVE
TO CALL P. JEANNIE FOR PROJECTS
I CAN'T GET CONNECTED THE CAN'T
GET HOOKED UP WE GOT PROJECTS
WAITING AT HOMELESS SHELTERS
WAITING OUT. INDUSTRIAL WAITING-
BUT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO CALL
THE P. YOU SEE ALMOST AS OFTEN
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT GIVING THEM
YOU KNOW ANOTHER TASK AND I
HAVE- I HAVE. FREQUENTLY SAID I
THINK THEY'VE GOT TOO MUCH AND I
MEAN WHAT WOULD THEIR BILLS.
THAT WE PASSED FOUR YEARS AGO
FOR PLANS THAT STILL DON'T HAVE
THE PLANS SO YOU KNOW. WHEN
THINGS NEED TO BE CONNECTED IN A
MORE RAPID FASHION I DON'T KNOW
THAT WAITING ANOTHER FOUR FIVE
YEARS TO GET PLANS TO FIGURE OUT
HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT. IS THE
OPTIMAL WAY BUT I SEE YOU'RE
WORKING WITH THAT THE TOOLS THAT
WE HAVE BEFORE US AT THIS POINT
SO WE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY
BUT I'M USING IT DOESN'T MAKE ME
FEEL LIKE WE WERE SOLVING THE
PROBLEM. THAT WE ALL EVERYBODY
SET UP ON THIS DIET HAS A
PROJECT IN OUR DISTRICTS THAT
CAN'T GET CONNECTED BECAUSE- WE
DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OF. THE
POWER SO. MOVED OUR ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR- TO RECORD TALK TO
CLOSE. TRUTH I THINK YOU I THINK
FOR THIS COMMENTS I I'VE SAID
HERE FOR A OF THE PRESSURE- A
BILL TWO YEARS AGO ON THIS- AND-
FEDERAL ELECTRIC READY HOMES
AND- COUPLE PARTS OF PAST BUT
SORT OF THAT. THE TIME AYE PART
DIDN'T. SO THIS REALLY ARE TEMP
TO WORK WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS- I
HEAR YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE P.
SEE AND WE DO THIS CERTAINLY OUR
PROCEEDINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN WAY
TOO LONG. BUT WE DO HAVE TIME
LINES IN THIS BILL AND WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK TO. CONDUCT
MAYBE HARDEN THEM GOING FORWARD.
AND AND THEN IT'LL PROBABLY BE
ON THE AND ALL OF US TO MAKE
SURE WE- WE HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE BUT- I DO HEAR
THOSE. CONCERNS BUT- YOU KNOW
I'M I'M- WITH ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS TO CAME HOME THEY
THEY CAME. HERE TODAY TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT I THINK WE GOT A
POWERFUL COALITION WE CAN HELP
DRIVE US FORWARD. WITHOUT
RESPECT LAST FOR AN AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU AND I DO UNDERSTAND
YOU HAVE EXCEPT THE COMMITTEE. I
WILL STIR STATE THEM REAL QUICK.
PC TO ESTABLISH A ONE WAY BOUNCE
UNIQUE. WOULD ON THE DOLLAR
AMOUNT THAT CAN BE APPROVED.
REQUIRED JUST A RESERVE ON THIS
VIEW BEFORE COST RECOVERIES
APPROVED. DELETE THE LANGUAGE IN
SUBDIVISION B. OF SECTION NINE
THREE SIX WHICH REQUIRES
DISTRIBUTION CIRCUIT UPGRADES.
IN ANTICIPATION OF. APPLICATIONS
OF INTERNALIZATION AND SERVICE
UPGRADE PROJECT AND PER
PROHIBITS THE DELAY OF THESE
UPGRADES DUE TO AN UNREGULATED
ENTITY. TO AVOID TO NEED FOR
INCREASED CAPACITY DELETE B. AND
SECTION NINE THREE SEVEN WHICH-
WOULD AUTHORIZE UTILITIES TO
SOCIALIZED ALL COSTS INCURRED
FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT
EXCEED THE ALLOWANCE OF
ESTABLISHED. IN THE ELECTRIC
CHAIR OF RULE FIFTEEN AND RULES
SIXTEEN IT WOULD BE TREATED AS
COMMON FACILITY COST CLARIFY
FINDINGS OF THIS BILL. R. FOR
LANGUAGE IN THE BILL THAT AS
INITIALIZATION. PROJECTS AND
CAPACITY SERVICE UPGRADES
INSTEAD OF INTERCONNECTION
PROJECTS IS THAT CORRECT. YES
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR EGGMAN WE HAVE AS STATED
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS AS
AMENDED. CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON S. BEFORE TO.
BRADFORD REDFORD I DALY ASHBY.
ASHBY AYE BECKER AYE BAKER AYE
CABALLERO COVER YOUR AYE DODD.
DODD AYE DORADO THROWS- I A-
EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ GROVE
MCGUIRE. MAN MAN I NEWMAN NEW I
READ C. R. TO SKINNER STERN WILK
HI WELL CRY. THE MEASURE HAS TEN
VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OF FOR
APPS MEMBERS. ARE YOU. YEAH YOUR
- WHERE- WHICH ONE WOULD EXPECT
. YEAH FALLS FOR SEVEN. IS HE
JUST SERVE. SEVEN TWO THIRTY
EIGHT. SO YOU FIVE SEVEN TWO.
YEAH ARE. WHEN YOU'RE READY YOU
MAY BEGIN THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS
BILL ON BEHALF OF SENATOR STERN
THIS MORNING WHO CAN'T MAKE IT
I'D LIKE TO START BY JUST NOTING
THAT WE ARE HE IS ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS REFERENCE ON PAGE
THREE THE NOW SIS WHICH WOULD
RECAST THE BILL. TO REQUIRE THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION TO PROVIDE A REPORT
TO THE LEGISLATURE BY FEBRUARY
TWENTY FOR THE VERY FIRST TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR REGARDING ANY
OUTCOMES AND RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM ANY CPUC INVESTIGATION
INCLUDING ANY IDENTIFIED BY FOR.
AS WE ALL KNOW THIS PAST
DECEMBER AND JANUARY NATURAL GAS
UTILITY CUSTOMERS WERE SUDDENLY
CONFRONTED WITH NATURAL GAS
UTILITY BILLS THAT WENT DOUBLE
AND TRIPLE ABOVE NORMAL PRICES
THIS SUDDEN SPIKE IN NATURAL GAS
PRICES LEFT MANY HOUSEHOLDS AND
BUSINESSES FINANCIALLY
UNPREPARED FACED WITH A
DIFFICULT CHOICE OF EITHER
PAYING THEIR UTILITY BILL OR
PAYING FOR OTHER NECESSITIES.
AFFECTING BOTH LOW INCOME AND
FIXED INCOME SENIORS
DISPROPORTIONATELY. SEVERAL
FACTORS LIKELY CONTRIBUTED TO
THIS SPIKE IN NATURAL GAS PRICES
IN LAST MONTH THE P. YOU SEE
INITIATED AN OFFICIAL
INVESTIGATION LOOKING INTO THESE
ISSUES. ENERGY MARKETS ARE
COMPLICATED HERE IN CALIFORNIA
AND THEY CAN BE MANIPULATED
ESPECIALLY DURING TIMES WHEN
DEMAND IS HIGH AND SUPPLIES
APPEAR TO BE SCARCE. SB FIVE
SEVENTY TWO WOULD REQUIRE THE TO
SEE P. U. C. TO REPORT THE
STATUS OF ITS INVESTIGATION
EARLY NEXT YEAR. AND WHAT WE
WILL ALL HOPE WILL RESULT IN
FINDINGS INSIGHTS IN A COURSE OF
ACTION TO ENSURE THAT THE STATE
IS THE STATE IS NOT SUSCEPTIBLE
TO SIMILAR PRICE SPIKES IN THE
FUTURE. I WANT TO TURN NOW TO MY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT- NANCY
SHARES AT S. ESPINOSA WITH
SCHOOL ENERGY COALITION AND
SECURE A CARTER WITH YOUR CLUB.
YOUR EACH UP TO MY- GOOD MORNING
MISTER CHAIR BURKE I HAS BEEN A
FROM OF THE SCHOOL ENERGY CO-
I'M- WITH THE TRADITION TODAY WE
REALLY TRY TO STAY OFF OF BILLS
THAT. MANDATE REPORTS OR STUDIES
BUT THIS ONE IS PARTICULARLY
IMPORTANT TO US. AND WE JUST
WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREED THAT
POLICY MAKERS AND REGULATORY
AGENCIES NEED A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENERGY
MARKET IN RELATION TO ZERO NET
ENERGY CARBON GOALS. AND IN A
WAY THAT PROTECTS RATEPAYERS
FROM PRICE SPIKES AND THEIR TWO
MAIN REASONS FOR THAT. ONE IS
THAT THE STATE CANNOT MEET ITS
ENERGY GOALS AND IT'S CARBON
NEUTRAL GOALS. AND WITHOUT
TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ALMOST
ELEVEN THOUSAND SCHOOL SITES
WHICH COMPRISE ABOUT SEVEN
HUNDRED THIRTY MILLION SQUARE
FOOT OF BUILDINGS. AND TWO IS
THAT PRICE SPIKES HAVE A
PARTICULAR AFFECT ON SCHOOLS AND
A DIRECTLY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
EDUCATIONAL SERVICES. THE REASON
FOR THAT IS BECAUSE- I
REGULATORY AGENCIES IN THEIR
ANALYSES ASSUME THAT THE WHEN
THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS
INCREASES. THAT EVEN LOCAL
AGENCIES CAN SIMPLY RAISE TAXES
AND BUSINESSES CAN INCREASE
THEIR THEIR PRICES BUT LOCAL
EDUCATIONAL AGENCIES ARE NOT
ABLE TO RAISE TAXES IN THAT
MATTER. SO WHEN PRICE SPIKES
OCCUR AND PARTICULARLY PRICE
SPIKES THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO
PREDICT OR PLAN FOR. THOSE FUNDS
COME DIRECTLY OUT OF OUR
OPERATIONAL BUDGETS WHICH MEANS
THAT COMES DIRECTLY OUT OF THE
CLASSROOM. AND SO- FURTHER WE
WILL IT JUST ASK YOU TO SUPPORT
THE BILL AND- WHEN THE REPORT
COMES BACK- WE IMPLORE YOU TO
USE THAT INFORMATION TO
DETERMINE HOW TO PROTECT ALL
RATE PAYERS. INCLUDING SCHOOLS
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NOT TO A
NURSE. THANK YOU CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THIS PAST
WINTER TOP EXECUTIVES RAKED IN
PROFITS AT THE EXPENSE OF
EVERYDAY CALIFORNIANS RELYING ON
GAS TO HEAT THEIR HOMES WITH
CUSTOMERS SEEING PARTICULARLY
HIGH GAS UTILITY BILLS IN
JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. GAS
UTILITIES LITTLE TO ANTICIPATE
THE PRICE SPIKES AND RATHER THAN
PASSING ON SUFFICIENT WARNINGS
TO CUSTOMERS. THEY SIMPLY PASSED
ON THE FUEL COSTS WHILE
CONTINUING TO COLLECT A HIGH
RATE OF RETURN FOR THEIR
INVESTORS. THE CBC PUBLIC
INQUIRY ON HIGH WINTER NATURAL
GAS PRICES IS WELL TIMED AND
MUCH NEEDED. IT CAN DETERMINE
WHETHER WHETHER IT WAS ACTUALLY
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN
HIGH BILLS. MORE IMPORTANT HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO INFORM STATE
LEAD MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR
GAS PRICE VOLATILITY TO PROTECT
RATEPAYERS FROM EXORBITANT
UTILITY BILLS. THIS BILL IN
ACQUIRING THE CPUC TO DELIVER A
REPORT TO THE LEGISLATURE ON ITS
FINDINGS CAN PUSH THE CPUC TO
THINK BEYOND THE SCOPE OF ITS
OWN AUTHORITY. AND DEVISING
SOLUTIONS TO PREVENTABLE
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. THERE ARE
CLUBS INVENTED IS INTERVENING IN
THIS INVESTIGATION TO MAKE SURE
THAT GAS UTILITIES ARE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. AND TO ENSURE THAT
WE'RE BETTER EQUIPPED TO PREVENT
PRICE SPIKES RESURGENCE.
IDENTIFYING APPLICATIONS
MITIGATION STRATEGIES HOWEVER
OUR COUNCILS CONCERNED THAT THE
C. P. C. WILL CONTINUE TO DEFER
TO THE UTILITIES. AND THEIR SELF
SERVING NARRATIVES OF PROTECTING
THE REVENUE REQUIREMENTS AND
PROFITS. I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY
PASS ALONG A QUOTE FROM THE
HARSH ENOUGH SENIOR CLUB
ATTORNEY WHO IS LEADING OUR
INTERVENTION EFFORTS. THE
LEGISLATURE CAN CORRECT THE
PERMISSIVE ATTITUDE THAT THE CPC
HAS TOWARD UTILITIES BUT
INDICATING IT'S A TEN FOR GAS
UTILITIES TO ANSWER FOR THE PAST
WINTER BILLS. BUT I CAN DO MUCH
MORE BY REAFFIRMING THE CPUC IS
A FORTY TO LEVY FINES AGAINST
BAD ACTORS. AND ENABLING AND
ENCOURAGING THE CBC TO PASS SOME
FUEL COSTS ON TO SHAREHOLDERS.
LOWER THE GAS UTILITIES HIGH
RATE OF RETURN. OR FUND
ELECTRIFICATION AND LOW INCOME
NEIGHBORHOODS AMONG OTHER
SOLUTIONS. GIVEN THESE CONCERNS
WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE TO
REMAIN FLEXIBLE AND ALLOWING
SENATOR STERN TO ADD LANGUAGE
THAT BOLSTERS REPAIR PROTECTION.
IT IS CLEAR THE HIGH GAS PRICES
ARE AN ISSUE AND IT'S CLEAR THAT
THE GAS UTILITIES ARE MAKING
RECORD PROFITS. WHAT CUSTOMERS
ARE SADDLED WITH HUGE BILLS. SO
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN EYE WANT
SB. FIVE SEVENTY TWO THANK YOU
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL IN THE
IN SUPPORT JUST YOUR NAME MUSIC
IN PLACE. GOOD MORNING SOCIAL
WITH LOS. UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
SHINO FURTHER WITH THIS YEAR.
ARE THERE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE IT SO
PLEASE COME FOR. C. NINE LET'S
GO TO OUR PHONE LINES MODERATORS
CAN YOU GO TO PHONE LINES AND
LET US KNOW IF THERE'S WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. OF S.
B. FIVE SEVEN TWO. THANK YOU AND
IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF THIS PLEASE PRESS
ONE AND THEN ZERO WHAT A LINE
TWENTY SIX. KEVIN CLARK FOR
CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
WELL NEXT TO LINE PAN. DIANA WHY
NOT ON BEHALF OF SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY CLIMATE REALITY IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU I HAVE NO
FURTHER IN QUEUE AT THIS TIME.
RIGHT LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
OR CONCERNS AS RELATES TO THIS
MEASURE. HEARING CHAIN NINE- WE
TALKED CLOSE SPECS ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE. I KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE
PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF MR STERN
I KNOW HE IS DISRUPTED ALL THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND- JUST
STATED THE LEAKED CONTENTS OF
THIS BILL INSTEAD REQUIRED PC TO
PROVIDE A REPORT. TO THE
LEGISLATURE BY FEBRUARY ONE
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR REGARDING ANY
OUTCOME JIM RECOMMENDATION FOR
THE PC. INVESTIGATION INCLUDING
ANY IDENTIFIED BY FOR AS WELL
SO. AND WE HAVE TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS- DO WE HAVE A
MOTION. IT'S BEEN MOVED.
CONSULTING PLEASE KALRA. DO
PASSES AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE DALY
ASHBY. SB I. BECKER BAKER AYE
CABALLERO. DODD DODD AYE DORADO
DORADO AYE EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE
GONZALEZ GROWTH MCGUIRE MAN. MAN
I NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE RUBIO
SEYARTO SKINNER STERN WILK HI
WILK. SALINAS GRABS NINE VOTES
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS NOW CONSULTING
LET'S ARE. APPROVE THAT. WE HAVE
ONE ITEM THERE. WHO HAVE
EMOTIONAL CONSENT COUNTY IT'S
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR MAN. LET'S
CALL THE ROLL IN CONCERT
CALENDAR FILE ITEM SIX SB THREE
OH FIVE. BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE
DALY ASHBY HI SB I BAKER BAKER
AYE CABALLERO DIED. DIED AYE
DORADO DR SO I EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE
GONZALEZ. GROWTH MCGUIRE MAN MAN
I NEWMAN NEWMAN AYE RUBIO C. R.
TWO SKINNER STERN WILK HI WILK
AYE. THE MEASURE IS NOT ABLE TO
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN NOW WE'RE
GONNA GO BACK TO YOU FILE ITEM
THREE SENATOR ARE JULY THIS BILL
SIX SIX THREE DO WE HAVE A
MOTION BUT BUILT. BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR MEN PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
WE HAVE ON THAT ONE I SHOULD
HAVE STATED- DO AS AMENDED TO
THE RIVER- CALL COMMITTEE TO BE
A- OKAY M. DO YOU PASS TO BE
AMENDED AND ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY. BRADFORD AYE BRADFORD
AYE DALY ASHBY. SB I. BECKER.
RIGHT BAKER I CABALLERO DIED
DIED I DRAWS- DRIVE SO I A
EGGMAN AIKENS ALL. GROWTH MCGRAW
MAN. MAN I NEWMAN NEWMAN AYE
RUBIO R. TO SKI. STERN WILL HI
OKAY. MEASURE AS VOTES WILL THE
ROLE TRAP MEMBERS.
SO WILL TAKE SENATOR STERN.
SEVEN NINE FIVE- RAPE CENTER
BACK- APPRECIATE YOU FILLING IN
.
FOR
YOU READY MAYBE GET THANK YOU.
AT THANK YOU SURE MEMBERS I'LL
BE PRESENTING SB SEVEN NINETY
FIVE ON BEHALF OF CENTER STERN
TODAY BEFORE BEGIN I'D LIKE TO
ACCEPT THE MEMBER IT'S ON PAGE
SIX OF THE NOW SIS TO NARROW
THEIR PRIOR TRACKING SYSTEMS TO
THESE DOCUMENTS REQUIRED FOR H.
BACKTRACKING AND LIGHTING
CONTROL. I AM. WHICH CHAIR
MEMBERS AT THIS BILL PROMOTES
CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY EFFICIENCY
AND GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
GOALS BY CHORE WE TAKE THE
NECESSARY STEPS TO DEVELOP
ELECTRONIC REGISTRIES THAT WOULD
ONE TRACK H. BACK EQUIPMENT
SALES TO ENSURE INSTALLERS
COMPLY WITH PERMIT AND CODE
REQUIREMENTS. AND TO PROVIDE A
TITLE TWENTY FOUR ENERGY CODE
COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTATION
REPOSITORY ACCESSIBLE TO
BUILDING OFFICIALS TO SIMPLIFY
AND IMPROVE ENFORCEMENT. THE C.
C. N. C. P. C. HAVE FOUND THAT
CONTRACTORS PULL H. BACK
REPLACEMENT PERMITS AS LITTLE AS
10% OF THE TIME. AND THE
CONTRACTORS COMPLY WITH TITLE
FOR TWENTY FOUR QUALITY
INSULATION REQUIREMENTS AS
LITTLE AS 15% OF THE TIME. THIS
LACK OF COMPLIANCE DIRECTLY
RESULTS IN INCREASED ENERGY
DEMAND. IMPROPERLY INSTALLED H.
FAX SYSTEMS FOR EXAMPLE BEEN
FOUND INCREASE ENERGY USE BY UP
22030% MINE I WILL SAY WAS
IMPROPERLY INSTALLED AT MY HOUSE
THE PROPOSALS FOR ELECTRONIC
TWELVE TWENTY FOUR DOCUMENTATION
REGISTRY AND A TRUCK SALES
TRACKING RICH YOU'RE NOT NEW.
COVER AGENCIES HAVE ISSUED A
NUMEROUS REPORTS OVER THE PAST
FIFTEEN YEARS GOING FOR BOTH OF
THESE SOLUTIONS. BUT WE STILL
REMAIN WITHOUT EVEN A PLAN FOR
IMPLEMENTING THESE SOLUTIONS IN
THE MEANTIME THE GLOBAL WARMING
CRISIS CONTINUE TO ACCELERATE
ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR
CENTER STERN WANTS TO MAKE CLEAR
IS THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT
OPPOSE ANY NEW REQUIREMENTS ON
BUILDERS OR BUILDING OFFICIALS.
CONTRACTORS ARE ALREADY REQUIRED
BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY
HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE ENERGY
CODE. BY FILLING OUT COMPLIANCE
DOCUMENTS AND SUBMITTING THOSE
TO BUILDING OFFICIALS. ADD
BELIEVE FISHES ARE ALREADY
REQUIRED TO VERIFY THESE
DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
THIS BILL PROVIDES A DATABASE
NEEDED TO CATCH CONTRACTORS WHO
FAIL TO PULL PERMITS. AND
PROVIDES AN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENT
VERIFICATION PROCESS TO EASE THE
ENERGY CODE ENFORCEMENT BURDEN
ON BUILDING OFFICIALS. THAT HAS
RESULTED IN LACK ENFORCEMENT
EVEN WHEN PERMITS ARE PULLED. I
WITH ME SUPPORT ARE CO SPONSORS
OF ACT S. B. A SEVENTY FIVE-
WITH FOLKS FROM WESTERN STATES
COUNCIL SHEET METAL WORKERS. AND
AN RTC. THE PRIMARY WITNESSES
HERE YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES PLEASE
. GOOD MORNING COMMENTS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
PEPPERIDGE COUNSEL IN THE
WESTERN STATES CONSERVE SHEET
METAL WORKERS. WE KNOW FROM
RECENT ACCEPTANCE TEST OUT OF
THE BUILDING OFFICIALS ARE NOT
ENFORCING. LIKE CONTROL IN H.
FACT CODE COMPLIANCE AND
ACCEPTANCE TEST DOCUMENTATION
REQUIREMENTS JUST LAST YEAR THE
ENERGY COMMISSION HELD A
WORKSHOP IN COMPLIANCE AND
BUILDING OFFICIALS ONCE AGAIN
TESTIFIED THAT ENERGY CODE
ENFORCEMENT WAS THE LOWEST
PRIORITY BECAUSE OF LACK OF
RESOURCES. THIS BILL IS INTENDED
TO ADDRESS. THE COUPLE QUICK
POINTS- ONE THE REASON FOR
MOVING FOR THIS BILL IS THAT
ENERGY COMMISSION STAFF
INDICATED THERE ARE CLEAR THEY
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE A
DATABASE THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY
BUILDING OFFICIALS TO VERIFY THE
COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED. THIS BILL IS DUE TO
PROVIDE ENERGY COMMISSION THAT
EXPRESS AUTHORITY TO DEVELOP AND
OPERATE HIS DIGITAL ENFORCEMENT
DATABASES. IT ALSO DIRECTS
ENERGY COMMISSION TO SEEK
FEDERAL AND OTHER FUNDING FOR
THESE DATABASES THE FEDERAL. TWO
STATES FOR INNOVATIVE ENERGY
CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES SO
FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IF THE CC
IS GIVEN AUTHORITY TO SEEK THIS
FUNDING. FINALLY I'D LIKE TO
ADDRESS ANY PRIVACY ISSUES- AS
THE SENATOR SAID ALL OF THIS
INFORMATION ALREADY REQUIRED TO
BE COLLECTED AND PROVIDED TO THE
BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS PARTICLE
COMPLIANCE. IN ADDITION THE
COMMISSION'S ALREADY AUTHORIZED
IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A
CENTRAL DATA REPOSITORY FOR THIS
INFORMATION BUT THE REPOSITORY
WILL NOT HAVE FUNCTIONALITY.
THAT SIMPLIFY BUILDING OFFICIAL
ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTION IN
AUTHORITY. FINALLY STATE LAW
PROVIDES THAT STATE ELECTRONIC
DATABASES HAVE TO PROTECT
PERSONAL INFORMATION SUCH AS
NAMES AND ADDRESSES. AND THAT-
AND THAT- TRADE SECRETS IT'S
AGGREGATE SALES DATA IS NOT
DISCLOSEABLE UNDER THE PUBLIC ON
THE PUBLIC. DISCLOSURE ACT. THIS
BILL REFERENCES BOTH OF OUR
EXEMPTIONS THE PUBLIC RECORDS
ACT- SO WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT
WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES. WE
ASK YOU FOR YOUR AYE VOTE THANKS
THANK YOU THE COULDN'T. MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC. GOOD MORNING
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY I'M Q. L. AS A CLEAN
BUILDINGS ADVOCATE WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL. IN CALIFORNIA HOMES
EACH FAX SYSTEMS ACCOUNT 424% OF
ELECTRICITY USE AND 40% OF GAS
USE WITH HOUSEHOLDS SPENDING A
SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THEIR
ENERGY BILL EACH YEAR ON EACH
FACT ALONE. TO ENSURE THAT THESE
CONSEQUENTIAL SYSTEMS RUN
EFFICIENTLY AND SAFELY
CALIFORNIA REQUIRES THAT EACH
FAQ INSTALLATIONS BE PERMITTED
TO COMPLY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
BUILDING CODES QUALITY
INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS. BUT
UNFORTUNATELY TODAY AT THE CDC
FINDS THAT AS FEW AS 10% OF EACH
BACK INSTALLATIONS ARE
PERMITTED. WITH PROFOUND
IMPLICATIONS FOR ENERGY
AFFORDABILITY HEALTH AND SAFETY
AND OUR CLIMATE. WITH REGARDS TO
ENERGY AFFORDABILITY AS A
SENATOR MENTIONED PROPERLY
INSTALLED EACH FAQ CAN REDUCE
ENERGY USE TWENTY TO THIRTY
PERCENT. SAVING HOUSEHOLD
HUNDREDS EACH YEAR ON THEIR
ENERGY BILLS. IN ADDITION TO
THOSE DIRECT BILL SAVINGS THE
ENERGY SAVINGS FROM QUALITY
INSULATION CAN ALSO REDUCE COSTS
FOR THE STATE'S ELECTRIC GRID.
SAVING ALL CUSTOMERS MONEY ON
THEIR ELECTRICITY BILLS. HEARD
ENFORCEMENT CAN ALSO IMPROVE
HEALTH AND SAFETY AND HOMES BY
ENSURING H. FACT SYSTEMS ARE
INSTALLED PROPERLY IN BY
FRONTING LEAKY DUCTS FROM
PULLING POLLUTED AIR FROM CRAWL
SPACES AND ATTICS INTO THE
LIVING SPACES. QUALITY
INSULATION ALSO REDUCES
EMISSIONS BY PREVENTING LEAKAGE
OF EACH BACK RISK FOR TRENDS
WHICH ARE POTENT GREENHOUSE
GREENHOUSE GASES WITH-
GREENHOUSE GLOBAL WARMING
POTENTIAL FIFTEEN HUNDRED TO.
TWO THOUSAND TIMES THAT OF
CARBON DIOXIDE- IT ALSO REDUCES
EMISSIONS BY SAVING ENERGY AS
MENTIONED EARLIER. IN ALL S. B.
SEVEN NINE FIVE OFFERS THE MOST
COST EFFECTIVE AND STREAMLINED
SOLUTION TO IMPROVE IMPROVING
PERMIT COMPLIANCE. AND IT'S
TRULY FOUNDATIONAL TO MEETING
CALIFORNIA'S URGENT CLIMATE AND
ENERGY AFFORDABILITY GOALS SO
RESPECTFULLY I. URGE YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NOW WE'RE GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY
ELSE. WORDS WHO'S IN SUPPORT
STATE YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION
PLEASE. MISTER CHAIRMAN SCOTT
WHICH EMPATHIC STATE PATRIOTS
COUNCIL. AND THE STATE
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS. IN SUPPORT THANK. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
SILVIO FOR OUR IN BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING CHAIRMAN SIR GREW ON
BEHALF OF SHEET METAL WORKERS
LOCAL ONE OH FOUR IN SUPPORT.
SECURE CARTER ON BEHALF OF
SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MY UNDERSTAND- ON BEHALF OF IBM
AT TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN SPORT.
IN ADDITION WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. HEARING TINA NOW ARE
THERE WITH THIS IS IN OPPOSITION
TO THIS MEASURE YOUR IN ROOM
TWELVE HUNDRED. SEEN NONE LET'S
NOW GO TO OUR PHONE LINES
MODERATOR ARE THERE IF. CALLERS
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. S. B. SEVEN NINE
FIVE. INCREASE GETTING QUEUE BY
PRESSING ONE AND THEN ZERO WELL
TO ALIGN. TWENTY SIX. KENNECOTT
FOR CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA
AND THREE FIFTY SACRAMENTO.
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. OVER
NEXT TO LINE PAN. FIND TEN YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. SH YES DIANA WIND
AND ON BEHALF OF SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY- CLIMATE REALITY PROJECT
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU WE HAVE NO
FURTHER IN Q. THANK YOU. THAT
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO THIS MEASURE. SKINNER
DALLY. I KNOW THIS IS A NOT YOUR
BILL BUT I WANT TO JUST I HAVE A
QUESTION THE QUESTION IS. WHEN
YOU REPLACE AN H. FAQ OR YOU PUT
A NEW H. BACK IN THERE'S A
PERMIT PROCESS THAT YOU GO
THROUGH TO DO THAT YOU EITHER
THE CITY OR THE COUNTY- IS
PERMITTED YOU. YOU HAVE A
CONTRACTOR PUT THIS. H. FAX
SYSTEM MEN AND COUNTY COMES
INSPECTS IT WHY WHY DO WE NEED
THIS EXTRA LAYER OF WHAT WHERE'S
THE PROBLEM I MEAN I CAN.
UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE FORCING
SOMEBODY TO REPLACE AND UPGRADE
TO A DIFFERENT- STYLE WHERE
THERE'S- BUT BUT THESE ARE THESE
ARE. HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COUNTY
PERMITTING PROCESS. OR S. OR
CITY. WHEN YOU REPLACE AN OLD
ONE. YOU YOU GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS OF WHY DO WE NEED TO
HAVE THE CC- GET INVOLVED IN
WHAT THE PROCESS IS ALREADY
THERE. MAKING YOUR THEN I'LL
BRING SOMEONE UP TO AT. THIS CC
WAS DIRECTED TO TAKE A
PRELIMINARY STEP IN AND DOING
SOME OF THIS IN CENTER WALKS
BILL TWENTY SIXTEEN. I'M IN A
TRUCK THE SECRECY SECRET PLAN TO
PROMOTE H. FAQ AND HEAT PUMP
INSTALLATIONS COMPLY TO BUILDING
CODES HOWEVER THAT LEGISLATION
DID NOT PROVIDING DIRECTIONAL
WHAT THAT PLAN SHOULD LOOK LIKE
OR INCLUDE- INTO THE LACK OF
SPECIFIC DIRECTION HAS CREATED.
PARALYSIS AND SIX YEARS LATER WE
STILL DON'T HAVE A PLANTS THOSE
ARE SOME THOUGHTS BUT ME INVITE
UP ONE OF THE SPONSORS MIGHT
BETTER ANSWER. THANK YOU- JUST
TO CLARIFY THIS ISN'T ADDING ANY
NEW LAYERS OF REQUIREMENTS ALL
OF THE ACCEPTANCE TESTING AND
COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTATION
REQUIREMENTS ALREADY. REQUIRED
UNDER LAW AS PART OF THE PERMIT
PROCESS WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT
IT'S NOT. BEING ENFORCED- WELL
THIS COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTATION
PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE THIS
EASIER TO ENFORCE. FOR A NEW
PROJECT YOU CAN BE TWO HUNDRED
THREE HUNDRED PIECES OF PAPER
THAT A BUILDING PROCESS TO GO
THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT IF THEY
HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BEEN
COMPLETELY FILLED OUT ALL THE
STUFF. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT
THEY'RE NOT COLLECTING THE STUFF
AT ALL WE'RE SEEING THIS- ALL
OVER THE STATE WERE ENTIRE
COUNTIES ARE NEVER EVEN ASKING
FOR THESE DOCUMENTS. AND WE NEED
TO MAKE BUT WE'RE HEARING FROM
THE BUILDING OFFICIALS WE NEED
TO MAKE THIS EASIER WE NEED TO
BRING THIS TO THE TWENTY FIRST
CENTURY. DIGITIZES PROCESS SO
ALL THIS IS DOING IS SAYING
LET'S TAKE THE CURRENT PROCESS
LET'S PUT INTO A DATABASE OF
PEOPLE CAN EARN AUTOMATIC CHECKS
SO IT ACTUALLY. WORKS FOR THE
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND. IS GOING
STRAIGHT TO THE FLOOR AFTER HERE
IS IT. WAS AGO. CONDUCTORAS
COMMITTEE. SO WELL I DON'T
UNDERSTAND THE BILL I GUESS I'M
TRYING TO I'M CONFUSED ON THE
FACT THAT. OBVIOUSLY WITH A WALK
BILL WAS. TO DO IT TOO I THOUGHT
WAS TO UPGRADE TO BUT WHEN YOU
WHEN YOU DO NOT NAY WHICH- YOU
STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THE
PROCESS OF MEETING THE BUILDING
STANDARDS WHATEVER THE BUILDING
STANDARD IS UNDER THE GENERAL
PLAN OF THE CITY OR THE COUNTY.
WHICH BEEN ADOPTED WHICH IS
TYPICALLY WHATEVER STATE LAWS
PASSED DOWN MAKES IT. HAPPEN SO
I'M CONFUSED OF WHAT THE BILL
ACTUALLY REALLY. IS TEMPTING TO
DO OTHER THAN- YOU KNOW REDUCE
PAPER I WOULD I GUESS THAT'S-
NOT A PART OF HIS ROLE IN
ENCOURAGING COMPLIANCE BUT WE-
YEAH IT IS SO. WHAT'S HAPPENING
IS THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE
THESE REQUIREMENTS THE NOT BEING
FOLLOWED AND THE STUDIES SHOW
THAT FOR EXAMPLE IN REPLACEMENT
EXPECTS 85% OF THE MARKET
STARTING CORRECTLY THEY'RE
GETTING ENERGY EFFICIENCY 2230%
LESS THAN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
THE VAST MAJORITY PEOPLE
INSTALLING THESE DON'T HAVE ANY
TRAINING AND SO FOR YOU DON'T
HAVE THIS A COMPLIANCE CHECK
THIS ACCEPTANCE TEST AT THE END.
YOU HAVE NO WAY TO MAKE SURE
THESE THINGS ARE FUNCTIONING
CORRECTLY THAT'S THAT THAT'S
THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN LAW.
BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING ENFORCED-
AND IF THEY'RE NOT ENFORCED THEN
WE DON'T ACTUALLY GET THE ENERGY
SAVINGS THAT THE CODE SAYS SO
THERE'S A- GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE
CODE REQUIRES. AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING AT THE END AND WHAT'S
ACTUALLY BEING CONSTRUCTED. SO
THIS HAVE AN UNFORTUNATE PROBLEM
BAY AT WHAT TELLING ME THAT'S
NOT A PAPER WHICH YOU TOLD ME
BEFORE. WE HAVE A FORCED A
PROBLEM THE LAWS IT IS ALREADY
THERE AND THERE AND IT'S NOT
BEING A HERE TO AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL. SENATOR SCOTT WELCH THE
PROBLEM IS PEOPLE AREN'T PULLING
THE PERMITS YOU CAN'T DO THE
ENFORCEMENT IF YOU DON'T KNOW
THE WORKS BEING DONE. AND THE
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT REALLY
GETTING 7% OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE
INSTALLING NEW H. FAX SYSTEMS
ARE ACTUALLY PULLING THE
BUILDING PERMIT. SO THERE'S A
THERE'S A GREAT FRUSTRATION ON
THE BUILDING INSPECTORS. AND I
REPRESENT IAPMO THE
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION. OF
PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL
OFFICIALS WHO ARE THE OF THE
LOCAL BUILDING OFFICIALS IN YOUR
DISTRICT. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR GOING OUT AND DOING THE
INSPECTIONS AND SIGNING OFF ON
THE PERMIT. BUT 93% OF THE
PEOPLE DOING THIS WORK ARE NOT
PULLING PERMITS. THIS DATABASE
IS GOING TO ALLOW BUILDING
INSPECTORS TO SAY HEY. WE KNOW
THAT THESE PEOPLE ABOUT EACH
BACK SYSTEMS WE HAVE THE
DATABASE FROM THE WHOLESALER WE
CAN MATCH THAT UP AND SAY HEY
THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMITS AND
THEN WE CAN GO DO ENFORCEMENT.
THANK YOU. FINALLY GETTING WORK
TO HAVE HELD A BILL SUPPOSED TO
DO. YES THAT'S IT IS REALLY THE
BUT IF THE DEPOSIT IS STILL OUT
OF FORSMAN ISSUE I MEAN IF YOU
DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT WHAT. I MEAN
ANYWAY. YEAH I THINK RUSSIA IS
THAT. THE DACA REPOSITORY- THAT
MISSED WHICH MENTION COMBINED
WITH IT THE SALES TRACKING
SYSTEM. THAT ARE GONNA IMPROVE
COMPLIANCE ENFORCEMENT BY LOCAL
OFFICIALS TO RELEVANT. TO ACCESS
RELEVANT DOCUMENTATION THAT
CROSS CHECK THE TRUCK
REGISTRATIONS WITH THE PULL
PERMITS. YEAH I JUST EXACTLY TO
REITERATE JUST TO CLARIFY THIS
IS SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT A
CONTRACTORS BUYING FOR EXAMPLE.
TEN EACH BACK APPLIANCES BUT
THEN THEY'RE ONLY PULLING ONE
PERMIT OR NO PERMITS IT MAKES IT
EASIER FOR- THE LOCAL CODE
ENFORCEMENT BOARDS TO SEE THAT
THAT'S HAPPENING AND TAKE
ACTION. AND REALLY THIS IS JUST
SUCH A BIG ISSUE NOT ONLY FOR
THE OLD MENTIONS WE'VE MET
REASONS WE'VE MENTIONED ALREADY
BUT ALSO BECAUSE- CONTRACTORS
WHO CURRENTLY PULL PERMITS ARE
BEING UNDERCUT AND OFFERING YOU
KNOW. QUICKER CHEAPER
INSTALLATIONS THEN- CONTRACTORS
WHO ACTUALLY ARE FOLLOWING THE
LAW- SO IT'S JUST REALLY
CRITICAL THAT WE START ENFORCING
THIS AND THIS IS THE CHEAPEST
MOST STREAMLINED WAY TO DO THAT
. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS CENTER NEWMAN REAL
QUICKLY SO. YOU KNOW THIS IS A-
I THINK A LOT OF US WERE SO. IT
THERE A BECAUSE A PROVISION WERE
THOUGHT TO THE- AS WELL- ON
THEIR RESPONSIBILITY WHEN
REPLACING HX SYSTEM BECAUSE. IT
THAT SEEMS. RELEVANT HERE. OKAY
FOR THAT THE WITNESS- YEAH AND
THEN IF YOU COMMISSION AND SEE
WILL BE BEEN DO THAT. IT NOT TO
YEARS WAS THE STEP I AFTER YOU
KNOW THAT. OUT WITH THEIR NEW.
PROPOSALS IN HOW TO READ COMPLY.
ON THIS ISN'T. KIND DON'T KNOW
THESE REQUIREMENTS I DON'T BE
THE GUY OR IN OR THE END
CONSUMER. WHO ARE OFTEN YOU KNOW
THINK ANY TO ENSURE SYSTEM
SOMEBODY OFFERED DO IT FOR THEY
SAID. NEWS NO NO PRINT NURSES
HERE YOU GO. RIGHT HOW DO WE
EDUCATE CAL. IS TO THEIR BOB.
AGAIN- I THINK MOST CAL. KNOW
THAT THE THEY THEY HAVE BEEN
THAT IT. PART BUT ULTIMATELY
PEOPLE ARE. TAKE THE T. PATH
THEY'RE GONNA TRUST CONTRACTORS
TO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WE DON'T
HAVE TO DO ON BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE
WE'RE WE'RE HAVING IS THAT.
CONTRACTORS ARE YOU KNOW FOR
EXAMPLE HER ACCEPTANCE TESTERS
AND THEN TELLING THEM I DON'T
NEED YOU COULD THIS BUILDING OUR
DEPARTMENT DOESN'T ENFORCE IT
AND IT'S A RESOURCE ISSUE. SO
THIS IS A TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT
RESOURCE ISSUE BECAUSE WE DON'T
WANT TO FIND THE BUILDING
DEPARTMENTS FOR NOT ENFORCING
ENERGY COMMISSION THAT'S AS MAKE
THE RESOURCES. YOU KNOW LESS WE
WANT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION
THAT SUPPORTS SOMEONE AND THIS
IS THE WAY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU
. ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL OR
CONCERNS ALL RIGHT. I TO YOU
SOME ISSUE HERE BECAUSE IT SEEMS
LIKE TO WERE CAN JUST NOT REPORT
BEING I THOUGHT THIS IS ABOUT IN
FOR. AND IF. IN DONE IN
INSTALLED YOU KNOW IT'S JUST
BECAUSE THE DATA LACKING HERE
CHAU. IS THAT CORRECT THIS YEAR
. YEAH I THINK THERE'S A WE AS
WE TALKED ABOUT IT YOU THIS. I
THINK I PRETTY ELEGANT SO. OKAY
HAVE IN THE POSITIVE WAY GETTING
THE CELLS TRACKING. IT'S JUST
GOING TO HELP THEM ENFORCE THIS.
AREN'T AREN'T. OUR WE HAVE.
ALREADY ACTUALLY THE- THAT YOUR
CALL. ARE ON WITHOUT PERMITS BUT
THERE ARE ALSO AND- LOWER
QUALITY WE IS WHY SEE WHEN WE-
INCREASE PERMITTING A QUALITY
INSULATION RATES YOU HAVE THOSE
2230% ENERGY SAVINGS. THAT'S
WHAT THE ENERGY COMMISSION HAS
FOUND. SO IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT-
YOU KNOW COLLECTING RIGHT
DOCUMENTS AND SEEING WHO'S DOING
WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT
IMPROVING THE INSTALLATIONS. TO
MAKE SURE THEY'RE MORE
EFFICIENCY FOR AND YOU KNOW
SAVING CUSTOMERS MONEY. I JUST
FIND IT ODD THAT YOU WOULD
IMPROVE YOUR AGE FACT SYSTEM BUT
YOU INSTALL LOWER QUALITY
EQUIPMENT. IF YOU'RE- NO THE
IDEA IS THAT YOUR ENSURING THAT.
YOUR CONTRACTORS WHO ARE PULLING
PERMITS ARE REQUIRED TO- TO
PRESCRIBE ABIDE BY THE ENERGY
COMMISSION'S BUILDING CODE AND
QUALITY INSULATION REQUIREMENTS
SO YOU'RE GETTING A HIGHER
QUALITY PRODUCT. BECAUSE ONCE
YOU'RE NOT PULLING PERMITS ARE
USING OFTEN AGAIN PER SHODDY OR
WORK I GOT IT'S LOWER QUALITY
WORK. THANK YOU WOULD LIKE TO
CLOSE SURE AGAIN I THINK THIS
UNKNOWNS I GET MY OWN HOUSE WE
IS MANAGING. WORK WE FOUND THAT
THE ORIGINAL EACH RECONCILIATION
WAS A PIPE TO KNOW WHERE- ENOUGH
INSTALLED CORRECTLY SO- I
APPRECIATE THAT THE ALL THE
COMMENTS ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A DO PASS TO
RULES COMMITTEE AND TO BE
AMENDED AND THE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY IS OUR MOTION HERE ON
THIS BILL. AND MOVED SENATOR
RAZA. CONSULTANT CALL THE ROLL
AND I'LL JUST STATE THE-
AMENDMENT NARAL THE BILL'S
COMPLIANCE DOCUMENT DATABASE TO
H. FAQ. AND LIGHTING CONTROLS.
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE A DELI.
ASHLEY HI ASHLEY I BAKER ALL
RIGHT BAKER I CABALLERO DODD.
DIHYDROGEN DRY SO I. EGGMAN.
EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ GROWTH.
GROVE NO. MCGUIRE MAN. MAN I.
NEWMAN NEWMAN I. RUBIO SEYARTO
SKINNER. STERN WILK WILK NO NO
DALY NO. EIGHT THREE. THE
CURRENT VOTERS EIGHT THREE WILL
LIBERAL OPEN FOR MEMBERS TO ADD
ON. NO WE'RE SEEKING AUTHORS.
SIR YEAH. NEWMAN FIVE- YES I'M
SORRY SAFAA ITEM TEN FIVE ONCE
IN A NEWMAN WHEN YOU'RE READY
YOU MAY BE.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISTER
MEMBERS YEAH THANK YOU THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT
SB FIVE OH ONE BEFORE I BEGIN
I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT YOU'RE A
STEP FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL- AND ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS
THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY
COMMITTEE STAFF AS AMENDED SB
FIVE ONE WOULD DIRECT THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION TO
DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
DOING TO IMPROVE THE RELIABILITY
SERVICE QUALITY AND OPERATIONAL
UP TIME OF CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING
NETWORK OF HYDROGEN REFUELING
STATIONS. AS PART OF THAT SB
FIVE ONE WOULD FURTHER EXPAND
THE EXISTING DATA COLLECTION
REQUIREMENTS FOR HYDROGEN
REFUELING STATIONS AS PART OF A
CONSUMER FIRST APPROACH TO
INCREASING TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE THOUSANDS
OF FUEL CELL DRIVERS WHO DEPEND
ON THEM EVERY DAY AS WITH
BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES
WIDESPREAD CONSUMER ADOPTION OF
ZERO EMISSION FCEV IS CONTINGENT
UPON ACCESS TO ENERGY THE IN THE
CASE OF FC VIS A HYDRANT THROUGH
A NETWORK. OF STRATEGICALLY
LOCATED AND RELIABLE HIS
REFUELING STATIONS DESPITE THE
SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS TODAY BY
PRIVATE SECTOR MARKET
PARTICIPANTS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA EXISTING HYDROGEN
REFUELLING NETWORK. REMAINS
SUBOPTIMAL. WHICH I IS PUTTING
IT MILDLY STATIONS ARE
FREQUENTLY OFF LINE- EITHER AS A
RESULT OF LACK OF FUEL WE'RE
FROM REPEATED AND PROLONGED
MECHANICAL FAILURES STATION
OPERATORS ARE OFTEN. SLOW TO FIX
AS EVIDENCE IN THE FIRST HALF OF
JANUARY OF THIS YEAR UP TO FORTY
FOUR PERCENT. OF THE STATE'S
HARD REFUELING NETWORK WAS
OFFLINE OR NON OPERATIONAL. AT
ANY GIVEN TIME HERE IN THE
SACRAMENTO AREA. A MULTI WEEK
OUTAGE ACROSS THE ENTIRE SEGMENT
A REGION AFFECT WE DENY THE
APPROXIMATELY FIVE HUNDRED
FIFTY. FUEL CELL DRIVERS IN THE
SACRAMENTO AREA THE ABILITY TO
USE THEIR VEHICLES DURING THAT
TIME. AS WE DISCUSSED IN THIS
COMMITTEE BEFORE OF CALIFORNIA
IS TO SUCCEED IN MEETING ITS
AGGRESSIVE TWENTY THIRTY FIVE.
TRANSPORTATION DECARBONIZATION
GOALS HI JIM FUEL CELL VEHICLES
WILL NEED TO BE A MEANINGFUL
PART. OF THE STATE'S
TRANSPORTATION MIX AND FOR THAT
TO TAKE PLACE THE STATE NEEDS TO
DO MORE TO IMPROVE THE
PERFORMANCE. OF A HYDROGEN FUEL
CELL VEHICLE FUELING
INFRASTRUCTURE. ON THE BATTERY
ELECTRIC SIDE. OF THE LEDGER
THERE SIMPLY SIMILAR- SHE'S UP
TIME AND- OF ELECTRIC CHARGED. I
LAST AND WE- THE- PASSED AND THE
GOVERNOR SIGNED AB TWENTY SIXTY
ONE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER TING.
ADOPTING DATA COLLECTION
REQUIREMENTS FOR EASY CHARGING
STATION OPERATORS EMPOWERING THE
ENERGY COMMISSION. TO ADOPT
MINIMUM UPTIME REQUIREMENTS OF
FOR THOSE OPERATORS THESE
EFFORTS RECOGNIZED THAT THE
OFTEN SHOW STATE OF EXISTING
EVEY CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
COULD **** THE WIDESPREAD
CONSUMER ADOPTION OF BATTERY
ELECTRIC VEHICLES WHILE
HINDERING. CALIFORNIA'S OVERALL
PROGRESS TOWARD DECARBONIZATION
OF THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. SB
FIVE A ONE WOULD WORK IN TANDEM
WITH THOSE EFFORTS BY
INTRODUCING A SIMILAR SET OF
DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS.
FOR HYGIENE STATION OPERATORS
WHILE ALSO DIRECTING THE CDC. TO
WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO IDENTIFY
STRATEGIES. AND EXPLORE
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVING
RELIABILITY OF STATIONS EQUALLY
IMPORTANT AS A WAY OF ENSURING
THAT THE PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE OF
DRIVERS THEMSELVES ARE TAKING
ACCOUNT. SB FIVE ONE WOULD
REQUIRE THE CREATION OF AN
ONLINE CUSTOMER FEEDBACK PORTAL
WHICH WILL OFFER CONSUMERS A
FAST AND CONVENIENT WAY TO
REPORT STATION ISSUES. GREAT
PERFORMANCES STATIONS AND FLAG
RECURRING FAILURES. TAKEN
TOGETHER THE PROVISIONS OF SB
FIVE ONE ENDEAVOR TO IMPROVE THE
EXPERIENCE. OF THE ROUGHLY
FIFTEEN THOUSAND CURRENT
HYDROGEN FUEL CELL DRIVES IN
CALIFORNIA WHO HAVE INVESTED AND
ROLLED IN THE CENTRAL PART OF A
GREEN ENERGY TRANSITION. INTO
REPRESENT THE FIRST COHORT OF A
LARGER COMMUNITY OF
APPROXIMATELY SEVENTY THOUSAND
FUEL CELL DRIVERS PROJECT TO BE
ON CALIFORNIA'S ROADS BY THE
YEAR TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT. WITH
ME TO TESTIFY TODAY ARE GREG AND
BOBBY CAME PROUD DRIVERS OF A
HARSH AND FUEL CELL VEHICLES IN
THE FOUNDERS. OF THE CALIFORNIA
HARDCORE OWNERS ASSOCIATION I AM
RESPECTFULLY ASKING. FOR YOUR
VOTE THIS IS A BILL. THANK YOU
WILL GIVE OUR- TO MANAGE TO.
REPRESENTATION COULD NOT THANK
YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS BOBBY CAME
MY HUSBAND GREG IS HERE WITH ME
AND WE ARE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN CAR OWNERS
ASSOCIATION. WHEN WE RETIRED
THREE YEARS AGO WE MADE THE
DECISION THAT WE WOULD FOR THE
GOOD OF OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN TO DEDICATE A
REMAINING YEARS. TO DOING WHAT
WE COULD DEFLATE TO ADDRESS
CLIMATE CHANGE. EARLY TO THAT
END WE PURCHASE A HYDROGEN FUEL
CELL CAR IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE
BECAUSE IT HAS NO MISSIONS. WE
HAVE DRIVEN THIS CAR EXTENSIVELY
SINCE PURCHASING IT INCLUDING A
TRIP TO ALL NINE CALIFORNIA
NATIONAL PARKS LAST SEPTEMBER.
THE REASON FOR THE TRIP WAS TWO
FOLD. FIRST TO BRING ATTENTION
TO A FUTURE WHERE FUEL CELL CARS
WILL BE USED JUST LIKE GASOLINE
AND DIESEL CARS. INCLUDING THE
ABILITY TO REFUEL IN ABOUT FIVE
MINUTES. AND SECONDLY TO SUPPORT
OUR NASH TO SUPPORT OUR NATIONAL
PARKS. IN THEIR CHALLENGE TO
RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE
EXTREME IMPACTS OF THE CHANGING
CLIMATE IS HAVING ON PARK
EXISTENCE. WE'VE TALKED TO
NUMEROUS HYDROGEN CAR DRIVERS AT
THE STATIONS BEFORE DURING AND
AFTER THIS TRIP. TO A PERSON
EACH OF THESE DRIVERS EXPRESSED
FRUSTRATION. AT THE LACK OF
RELIABLE FUELING STATIONS. VERY
OFTEN EITHER THE EQUIPMENT HAD
MALFUNCTIONED OR THE STATION HAD
RUN OUT OF FUEL. IT IS MAINLY
FOR THIS REASON THAT THE
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN CAR
ASSOCIATION WAS FORMED. WE
BELIEVE THAT THE LACK OF
RELIABLE HYDROGEN FUELING
INFRASTRUCTURE IN CALIFORNIA IS
SINGLE HANDEDLY. FORGING THE
SUCCESS OF THESE CARS IN THE
STATE. AND IN THE UNITED STATES.
WITH THE PASSAGE OF SENATE BILL
FIVE OH ONE CALIFORNIA WILL GO A
LONG WAY TOWARD IMPROVING
RELIABILITY. SERVICE QUALITY AND
OPERATIONAL UPTIME OF HYDROGEN
FUELING STATIONS. WE THEREFORE
STRONGLY ASKED COULD YOU SUPPORT
THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES
HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE
WE JUST SESSION STATE YOUR NAME
AND ORGANIZATION. I THINK
ELSEWHERE HERE ON BEHALF
CALIFORNIA HIGH INCLUSION WE
APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT
CENTER NEWMAN'S MAKING HERE AND
WILL COMMIT TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH HIM TO INCREASE
RELIABILITY AND UPTIME OVER
STATIONS AND SAY PRAYERS IN
ORDER TO SERVE THE DRIVERS FOR.
TAKING THE COMMITMENT OF EARLY
ADOPTION TO THESE BILLS ELECTRIC
VEHICLES. WHICH ARE ABSOLUTELY
NECESSARY FOR TRANSITION 2100%
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES BY TWENTY
THIRTY FIVE THANK YOU. THANK YOU
ANY OTHER WITNESSES. ARE WITH
THIS IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE HERE IN THIS ROOM. AND
ROOM TWELVE UNDER. SIGNON
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION OF SB FIVE A ONE.
AARON PLEASE A PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO TWO GETTING QUEUE FOR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. IF NO ONE
IN Q. PLEASE GO AHEAD. K. WILL
BRING ABOUT TO GIVE ANY
QUESTIONS CENTER MEANT- S.
SENATE NEWMAN KNOWS I'M ALSO AS
AN OWNER OF A HYDROGEN FUEL CELL
IS OUR ICE CHAIR OF THE LESSON
OF KERR. HOUSING CAR CUTS YOU
POINTED ME THAT POSITION THANK
YOU. THERE ARE TWO OF US YES I
AM VERY ADAM IS EYES HERE- AND I
WOULD JUST MY OWN. WITH THE CAR
DRIVES GREAT I LOVE IT EXCEPT
THE FEELING. IS VERY VERY
DIFFICULT- I WILL ALSO SAY THAT
THE FUELING EXPERIENCE HAS
GOTTEN BETTER IN THE TWO YEARS
I'VE ON MY MARAE. IT'S IT CAN BE
A LITTLE STICKY FOR THOSE OF US
WHO HAVE HYDROGEN CARS IT'S
GOTTEN LESS STICKY SOME OF THESE
POOR. A LITTLE BIT MORE RELIABLE
BUT I LIVE IN ORANGE COUNTY
WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE
SEVEN. FUELING STATIONS AND MORE
ON THE WAY. THAT'S THE HIGHEST
DENSITY ACROSS THE STATE AND YOU
KNOW WHEN I DRIVE DOWN TO SAN
DIEGO RIGHT AWAY I KNOW IT'S
GONNA BE HERE EXPERIENCE. CAN'T
DRIVE UP TO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
IF THERE ARE REAL ADVANTAGES OF
THIS TECHNOLOGY INCLUDING THE
QUICK FUEL REFILLING TIME. IS SO
I THINK IS A STATE THIS IS A
CONCEPT WE WANNA GET BEHIND JUST
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING
ALL OUR EGGS IN THE BASKET I
ALSO HAVE AN EEVEE AS WELL. I.
N. AND THAT HAS ADVANTAGES AND
DISADVANTAGES OF THE HYDROGEN
FUEL CELL CAR SO I WOULD ASK TO
BE A CO AUTHOR AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME SINCE I AM THE
VICE CHAIR HERE THE MEASURE OF
THE HYDRANT CAUCUS. I AND I
WOULD HAVE TO MOVE THE BILL AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THIS IS
APPROPRIATE TIME. ALL RIGHT TO
PROMOTE. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION
AS IF BARS- PLACING A LOCATING-
THESE FUELING STATIONS WITH THE
- PUSH TO. GET OFF OF FOSSIL
FUELS AND SHUTTING DOWN THESE
GAS STATIONS WERE WILL THE
FUELING STATION FOR ARGUMENT
BEING LOCATED. SURE SO. IT
VARIES TO SOME EXTENT A SEPARATE
CONVERSATION WHICH YOU KNOW
WE'VE HAD A PARTICULAR
TRANSPORTATION OF ANY. EXCESS SO
THERE'S A THERE'S A PLAN THERE'S
A ROAD MAP FOR BUILDING OUT A
NETWORK OF ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
STATIONS. ACROSS THE STATE. ALL
RIGHT TO SENTIMENTS POINT WE DO
NOT YET HAVE THE DENSITY OF THE
RADIUS. OF COVERAGE IS NECESSARY
FOR YOU KNOW FOR TRUE. YOU KNOW
SIR THROUGHPUT- THE UP AND DOWN
THE STATE. IN AND ALSO EAST AND
WEST. ALL RIGHT SO THAT'S A
THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS THE-
THE FUNDING WAS SLOWED FOR.
WHATEVER REASON BETWEEN THE
YEARS TWENTY FIFTEEN. TWENTY
NINETEEN SO. SO THE NETWORK IS
ACTUALLY BEHIND SCHEDULE. AND SO
YOU KNOW THAT THAT CREATES A SET
OF PROBLEMS THAT ARE ACTUALLY
NOT RELATED TO THAT THE BROADER
QUESTION ABOUT THE USER
EXPERIENCE. RIGHT SO WE DON'T
HAVE AN OF STATIONS BUT WE ALSO
HAVE A SEPARATE PROBLEM- OF
THOSE STATIONS. WHICH ARE
CURRENTLY IN PLACE. ARE OVER
USED. IT IN MANY CASES THE
TECHNOLOGY DID NOT ANTICIPATE
THE INTENSIVE USE THAT THEY'RE
SEEING. I ANSWER DATA QUESTIONS
REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT
WE'RE DEALING WITH VERTICALLY AS
WE LOOK FORWARD. I AND IN TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT COLLECTIVELY A
PARTICULAR AROUND. YOU KNOW
GRANT BASED OPERATIONS WHAT THE
INDUSTRY NEEDS. BY WAY OF
GUIDANCE AND RULES- AND ALSO
WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR. IT
SHOULD UNDERSTAND ANY PROVIDE TO
OPERATIONALIZE MAKE VIABLE THIS
NETWORK. SO ALL IN. THE BROADER
POINT I THINK IS. YOU KNOW WE'RE
GOING TO NEED FUEL CELL ELECTRIC
VEHICLES THAT PARTICULARLY IN
RURAL AREAS. IN AND THIS IS
MERRY WHETHER IF THE FEWEST
STATIONS WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE-
IF WE'RE GOING TO DECARBONISE.
LIGHT MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY
TRANSPORTATION CALIFORNIA BY
TWENTY THIRTY FIVE. THIS IS A
STEP TO MAKE SURE. THAT THE
EXISTING INVESTMENTS WORK. THAT
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THESE
INITIAL COMMITMENTS LIKE THE
CANES. ARE NOT CHEATED. OUT OF
THEIR INVESTMENT. BECAUSE WE
DON'T MAINTAIN. THE QUALITY OF
SERVICE RUN SURE THAT OPERATORS
DO SO- AND SO WITH THAT YOU KNOW
APPRECIATE THE WITNESS IS BEING
HERE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU TO ALL
THE COALITION MEMBERS HAVE BEEN
SUPPORTIVE OVER TIME THANK YOU
TO MY VICE CHAIR. AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. SIR.
DOLLARS WELL THE UNITED WANTED
TO COMMENT BRIEFLY SOMEBODY WHO
IN THE- HEAVY DUTY USE SPACE-
AND- WE DON'T HAVE ONE AVAILABLE
NOR DO WE HAVE THE NETWORK
AVAILABLE BUT I WILL JUST. WANT
TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT. WE
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE THE
GOODS THAT WE DEVELOP MOVE WITH
ELECTRICITY THE WAY WE- WANT TO
MOVE THEM AND BE A HUNDRED
PERCENT- GREEN. HAS SO WE MUST
USE THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THE IN
THE HEAVY DUTY SPACE. AND SO
ALONG OUR CORRIDORS WILL WE MOVE
FREIGHT OBVIOUSLY REALLY NEED
THAT LONG. TRANSPORTATION
FREIGHT WHEN I SAY THAT NOT THE
PORTS THE PORTS COULD DO
ELECTRIC. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
MOVING FREIGHT IN AND COMING
FROM A RURAL AREA WHERE WE- A
LOT OF A LOT OF AG PRODUCE IN
FORESTRY PRODUCTS. NEED TO GET
TO MARKET PLACES- HYDROGEN IS
THE ANSWER AND SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL THANK AND
LET ME IDEA AND I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE THAT SIR YOU KNOW
IT'S PART OF OUR CONVERSATION.
THERE IS SOME SOME. DISAGREEMENT
AS TO KIND OF THE RELATIVE
WEIGHTING LIGHT DUTY VERSUS
HEAVY DUTY. IT RISHI EVERYBODY
AND IN THIS TECHNOLOGY AGREE
THAT LIGHT DUTY. IS NECESSARY
FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS NOT LEAST
OF WHICH IS GOING TO DRIVE DOWN
THE COST. OF FUEL CELL
TECHNOLOGY AND IN IMPROVING
ENHANCE THE TECHNOLOGY
INNOVATION CURVE. SO THAT IS
ANOTHER REASON WHY WE HAVE TO
SUPPORT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE
RENDER. YOU CAN YOU KNOW
CONTINUE- ENSURE THE VIABILITY
OF THE LIGHT DUTY SYSTEM BECAUSE
IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE
EVENTUAL SUCCESS OF HEAVY DUTY
HYGIENIST WELL. IF QUESTION.
COMMENT OR COMMENT QUESTION AS
WELL THANK YOU MISTER TERRY
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SHARE JUST A FEW THOUGHTS- WE
LEARNED THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR
HAS- IT'S BEEN EVIDENT AND AM
ACTUALLY DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN.
AT VIDEO DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN
AVAILABLE THROUGH AMNESTY
INTERNATIONAL AND OTHERS THAT. A
COBALT- FIELDS OF THE DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO. IS
CREATING A SLAVE LABOR MARKET
FOR ELECTRIC BATTERIES- THAT'S
QUESTIONING SOME OF THOSE THINGS
RIGHT THE QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT
THE HYDROGEN. ISSUES 33% OF THAT
HYDROGEN IS STILL BEING PRODUCED
BY THE COAL- IN YOU IN THE U. S.
AND THERE IS A GOAL- WITH THE
LEADERSHIP OF OUR COUNTRY TO
ELIMINATE COAL MINING. HOW DOES
HYDROGEN SURVIVE IN AND WE JUST
DON'T GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE I
THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA I THINK
IT'S A GREAT ALTERNATIVE. BUT
HOW DOES IT SURVIVE IF WE
ELIMINATE THE COAL MINES. IN A
RESEARCH CENTER SO I HAD A BILL
EARLIER TODAY TO SORT OF
REDEFINE THE STANDARD AROUND.
OUR PS RENEWABLE HYDROGEN. THAT
THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS
RIGHT TO ENSURE THAT THAT WE ARE
CLEAR ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GETTING.
THE FUEL SOURCES IN THIS CASE
HARD IN ENSURING THAT IT IS FROM
CLEAN AND ETHICAL SOURCES SO
EITHER THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX
KIND OF MULTI DIMENSIONAL
PROCESS. BUT YOU KNOW THE
TECHNOLOGY AND THE INVESTMENT-
COMING LINE TO MOVE AWAY FROM
YOU KNOW THIS HISTORICAL DURING
THE WAY TO PRODUCING HYGIENE
THROUGH ELECTROLYSIS TO NEWER
WAYS USING USING EITHER BIOMASS
OR SOLAR- OR WIND. THAT SAID
THAT WE DON'T NEED TO USE. YOU
KNOW THE OLD TECHNOLOGIES THE
DIRTY TECHNOLOGIES TO PRODUCE
SERGEANTS I APPRECIATE THAT
RESPONSE BUT THAT THE- GREEN
TECHNOLOGY SECTOR ALSO SAYS THAT
THAT THAT- MOVING AWAY FROM COAL
IS GOOD IN THOSE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES MOVING TO THOSE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES. IS COST
PROHIBITIVE AND HOW DO YOU
AFFORD A VEHICLE I'M JUST TRYING
TO THINK DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT
WE DON'T END UP IN THE SAME
SITUATION- THAT WE'RE IN NOW
WITH ELECTRICAL VEHICLES WITH
THE REALITY. THE REALITY THAT-
YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE DIE AND
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE- PURCHASE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND USE
BATTERIES THAT ARE BROUGHT FOR
THE COUNTRY. I APPRECIATE THAT
CENTER GROVE IN AND SO THE
SEARCH CHALLENGING QUESTIONS AND
THEY THEY ARE INTRINSIC. TO THE
BROADER GOALS OF MOVING FROM.
HISTORICAL YOU KNOW HISTORICAL
SOURCES OF FUEL TO NEW CLEAN
SOURCES. IT IT IT IT OFTEN IS
NOT A SMOOTH PROCESS- AND IT'S
INCUMBENT ON US AS POLICY MAKERS
TO CREATE A ROAD MAP- THAT GETS
US. AT TO THEIR AS QUICKLY- AND
IT'S YOU KNOW KIND OF ETHICALLY
AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU SIR.
CENTER DOT YEAH I JUST THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT- CENTER GROSSE
POINT- I DON'T THINK THERE'S
ANYBODY THAT IS. PROMOTING
HYDROGEN FROM. THE- FROM COAL
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A HISTORICAL
USE. THE I'VE I WENT TO WATCH-
THE COP TWENTY SEVEN THAT WAS IN
THE HYDROGEN- INNOVATION HUB FOR
A COUPLE DAYS. THE INVESTMENT IN
HYDROGEN. WORLDWIDE IS
ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE I REALLY
BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE. I
THINK YOU'RE RIGHT TO YOUR POINT
THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING
THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO.
SUPPLEMENT OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE-
THE- PRODUCTION YOUR- HERE IN
THE CITY CALIFORNIA TO BE ABLE
TO MEET OUR GOALS THAT WE HAVE
TO MEET. GREAT THANK YOU. WE
HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE CHAIR
OF THE HYDROGEN. WILLIS IN THE
CAUCUS- WE HAD I WAS THE
LEGISLATIVE HYGIENE KERR CAUCUS
NARRATIVES ARE. ALL RIGHT.
DOCTORS OF TWO OKAY- DO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY- TO BE
AMENDED. THE TO BE AMENDED R. A.
COULD AGAIN AS AMENDED IT WAS
SAYS AS AMENDED SO IT'S TO BE
AMENDED. AND THAT COMMITTEE. YES
IT'S TO BE AMENDED ALL RIGHT TO
BE AMENDED AND THE COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY-
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
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DALLY AYE ASHBY. SB I BAKER
RIGHT BAKER I CABALLERO. DR
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MEN. NEWMAN AYE NEWMAN AYE RUBIO
. SEYARTO C. R. TWO AYE SKINNER
. SKINNER AYE STERN WILK.
WELCOME OF THE MEASURE OUT HAS A
LOT OF VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROLE
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS- NOW
WE'RE OF YOU SENATOR JOSH SHE'S
HERE SOONER GONZALEZ YOU PREPARE
. OUR CAN WE OPEN THE ROLE IN
SOME OF THESE ITEMS RIGHT NOW
WHILE WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE.
STARTING WITH FILE ITEM- TO KNOW
WELL TO THEM DOWN TO THREE. SB
SIX SIX THREE ARCHULETA DO
PASSED TO BE AMENDED
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CURRENT
VOTE NINE ZERO. CHAIR VOTING I
DAILY DAILY AYE CABALLERO. ZERO
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GROWTH GROWTH AYE MCGUIRE. RUBIO
C. R. TWO C. R. TWO AYE SKINNER
SKINNER I. THREE SEVEN. FIFTEEN
AT FIFTEEN WILL LIBERAL OPEN FOR
UP TO MEMBERS OUT ON NEXT ON.
YOU CAN FOLLOW HIM. SIX SIX
CONSENT CALENDAR. DALLI DALLI I
CABALLERO. KABIR AYE GONZALEZ.
GROSS FILE ITEM GROVE II MCGUIRE
RUBIO C. R. TWO C. R. TWO ICE
SKINNER SKINNER I. GONZALEZ I.
THAT HAS FIFTEEN VOTES WILL
LIBERAL OPEN FOR AFTER MEMBERS
OUT ON NEXT FILE ITEM SEVEN. SB
FIVE SEVEN TWO STERN YOU PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE NINE ZERO DALLY.
DALLY NO. CABALLERO I. GONZALEZ
HI GONZALEZ I GROWTH. THROWS NO
MCGUIRE. RUBIO C. R. TWO C. R.
TONO SKINNER SKINNER HI. TWELVE
TO THREE WELL THE THROUGH A
LIBERAL OPEN NEXT FALL I TO MAKE
. SB SEVEN NINE FIVE STERN DO
PASS TO ROLES TO BE AMENDED IN
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE
EIGHT THREE CHAIR VOTING I VICE
CHAIR VOTING NO GONZALEZ HI
GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE RUBIO.
SEYARTO. YOU SEE ARE TO AYE
SKINNER BY SKINNER I. ELEVEN TO
THREE. WHAT'S CAL. ELEVEN ELEVEN
TO THREE 11-3 WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OF PERHAPS MEMBERS NEXT IS
FILE ITEM NINE. S. B. FOR TEN
AYE SENATOR BAKER TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE TEN ZERO DALLI
DALLI I. AND SALAS HI IN DALLAS
I GROWTH. GROVE I MCGUIRE RUBIO
. SEYARTO C. R. TO AYE SKINNER
SKINNER I. RUBIO I. YOU READY
BUILDING. I THINK WE'RE GOING.
TO WHICH WHICH WILL. FALL I
DON'T AS REPORTED. TO OKAY SORRY
OKAY. SIXTEEN ZERO. SIXTEEN ZERO
ZERO OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
ALL RIGHT FINE I'LL NEWMAN HELLO
FRAPPES MEMBERS ON- SB FIVE A
ONE. SB FIVE A WHEN NEWMAN TO
PASS TO BE AMENDED ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY CURRENT VOTE ELEVEN ZERO
DORADO EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE
MCGUIRE MEN. MAN I. RUBIO HI
RUBIO I. WILK AYE WILK HI.
FIFTEEN FIFTEEN. FIFTEEN ZERO
WILLIE THE ROLE OPEN PERHAPS
MEMBERS NOW SENATOR GONZALEZ YOU
MAY PRESENT YOUR MEASURE SB
THREE NINE FOUR OKAY I'LL START
WITH THAT. I'M ALSO PRESENTING
FOR SENATOR BY THE AT TO JUST
FYI. I'M OKAY WE'LL START WITH
THAT ONE THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS BEFORE I BEGIN I'D LIKE
TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS OUTLINED
IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WILL PUSH
OUT THE BILL'S DEADLINES AND
NARROW THE REQUIRED INVENTORY OF
. FACILITIES TO INSTEAD BE A
REPRESENTATIVE ASSESSMENT BASED
ON EXISTING INVOLUNTARY REPORTED
DATA SO I THINK THE COMMITTEE
FOR THEIR- FOR THEIR HELP ON
THAT AND SB THREE NINETY FIVE
WILL REQUIRE THAT THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION COLLABORATE
WITH VARIOUS STATE AGENCIES IN
EDUCATION STAKEHOLDERS TO
DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR
HEALTHY SUSTAINABLE AND CLIMATE
RESILIENT SCHOOLS. CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS ARE SERVED BY OVER ONE
THOUSAND SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT
UTILIZE MORE THAN TEN THOUSAND
SCHOOL FACILITIES COMPRISING OF
ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND
ACRES OF GROUNDS AND SEVEN
HUNDRED THIRTY MILLION SQUARE
FEET OF FACILITY SPACE WHICH
PRODUCE SUBSTANTIAL GHG
EMISSIONS AND CONTRIBUTE TO
OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. BUT
WHILE CALIFORNIA HAS SOME
EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT HAVE
TAKEN PIECEMEAL STEPS TO BEGIN
THIS GENERATIONAL TRANSITION TO
CLIMATE RESILIENT FACILITIES
THERE'S A LACK OF A UNIFIED
VISION AT THE STATE LEVEL AND A
DESPERATE NEED FOR A
COMPREHENSIVE ROADMAP AND MASTER
PLANNED. IN MASTER PLANNING
CLIMATE RESILIENT SCHOOLS WILL
BETTER POSITION CALIFORNIA
SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO LEVERAGE THE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE
UNDER THE RECENTLY PASSED.
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND
JOBS ACT- AND PLACEMENT ACT TO
MODERNIZE AND MAKE SCHOOL
FACILITIES AND BUSES MORE ENERGY
EFFICIENT. TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT
TODAY I HAVE KERR CAN A TAYLOR
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CLIMATE
ACTION PATHWAYS FOR SCHOOLS.
JEFF THIS IS VINCENT THE
DIRECTOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE
INITIATIVES AT THE CENTER FOR
CITIES AND SCHOOLS AT UC
BERKELEY. AS WELL AS FOR
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IF NEEDED
JONATHAN KLEIN WITH UNDAUNTED K.
TWELVE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE ON MISTER CHAIR.
THANK YOU YOUR TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES OUT TWO MINUTES. THANK
YOU SENATOR GONZALEZ MISTER
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M PLEASED TO VOICE
MY SUPPORT FOR SB THREE NINETY
FOUR. I'M COOKIN TAYLOR
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CLIMATE
ACTION PATHWAYS FOR SCHOOLS A
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S
WORKING WITH SCHOOL COMMUNITIES
TO REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS AND SAVE
MONEY WHILE PREPARING STUDENTS
FOR COLLEGE AND THEIR FUTURE
CAREERS. I'M ALSO A PARENT AND
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HARM TO
CHILDREN'S ACADEMIC PROGRESS.
AND SOCIAL EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT
VETERANS OF AS A RESULT FROM
CLIMATE RELATED DISRUPTIONS TO
THEIR SCHOOL EIGHT. SO WHAT DO
WE MEAN BY CLIMATE RESILIENT
SCHOOLS. WHEN EXTREME WEATHER
FORCES LOCAL UTILITIES TO CUT
POWER SCHOOLS REMAIN ONLINE
POWERED BY RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT
IS GENERATED AND STORED ON SITE.
WHEN WILDFIRE SMOKE FILLS THE
AIR. H. FAX SYSTEMS MAINTAIN
CLEAN AIR PROVIDING RESPITE FOR
STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND
WHEN STUDENTS STRUGGLE TO MAKE
SENSE AND FIND BALANCE IN THE
FACE OF UNCERTAINTY THEIR SCHOOL
COMMUNITIES OFFER CONNECTION
COMPETENCE AND HOPE FOR THE
FUTURE. AS AN EXAMPLE CLIMATE
COMPACT PLACE FOR SCHOOLS HAS
BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
PORTABLE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
AND TULARE COUNTY. TOGETHER
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT
TO REDUCE ITS GHG EMISSIONS BY
80% BY TWENTY THIRTY. AS A
RESULT WE'VE ACHIEVED OVER 28%
REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS FROM THE DISTRICT
FACILITIES AND PRODUCE OVER
EIGHT HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN
THOUSAND AND ENERGY COST SAVINGS
FOR THE DISTRICT. WE NEED TO DO
MORE TO ENSURE THAT EVERY
DISTRICT IN OUR STATE GETS ON A
PATH LIKE PORTABLE. TO CARBON
NEUTRALITY AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH
STATE LAW THAT HAS. ACCESS TO
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO
SAFEGUARD STUDENTS HEALTH. AND
LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES. THE NEED
FOR MASTER PLAN IS GREAT. THE
CDC IS WELL POSITIONED TO LEAD
THE PLANNING WITH CAPACITY
ALREADY PLACE FROM YEARS SPENT
ADMINISTERING PROP THIRTY NINE
AND CAL SHAPE. AND THIS MASTER
PLAN WILL AS SENATOR GONZALEZ
SAID HELP US ONLINE THE NATIONAL
STATE AND LOCAL INVESTMENTS IN
SCHOOL INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE
STATE'S GOALS FOR
DECARBONISATION. ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE AND EDUCATIONAL EQUITY.
IT WILL ALSO CREATE A ROAD MAP
FOR SCHOOLS TO HELP THEM BENEFIT
FROM THE COST SAVINGS THAT COME
ALONG WITH DECARBONIZATION WHILE
CREATING HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
THAT YOU VOTE I'D ON SB THREE
NINETY FOUR. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS. TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
AND HELLO CENTER GONZALEZ
FLETCHER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE- I'M JEFF VINCENT WITH
THE CENTER FOR CITIES AND
SCHOOLS AT UC BERKELEY. I'VE
STUDIED ISSUES OF SCHOOL
FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
FIFTEEN YEARS DONE SO ACROSS
CALIFORNIA AND NATIONALLY WITH
PARTNERS SUCH AS THE NATIONAL
COUNCIL ON SCHOOL FACILITIES AND
THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF
SCIENCES. WAS ONE OF THE LEAD
AUTHORS ON THE TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY THREE REPORT A CALL TO
ACTION CLIMATE RESILIENT
CALIFORNIA SCHOOLS THAT UC
BERKELEY RESEARCHERS DID WITH
STANFORD UNIVERSITY RESEARCHERS
SEE WE DO COLLABORATE ON
SOMETHING- AND THE REPORT
CENTRAL RECOMMENDATION IS REALLY
AROUND WHAT THIS BILL IS FOCUSED
ON WHICH IS THAT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA IS A MASTER PLAN FOR
CLIMATE RESILIENT SCHOOLS. AND
SPECIFICALLY WHEN THE FOCUS IS
ON THE FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE
FROM EQUITY PERSPECTIVE ENERGY
PERSPECTIVE IN EDUCATION
PERSPECTIVE. AND SO- I'M PLEASED
TO SEE THAT SB THREE NINETY FOUR
PICKS UP ON THIS ADVANCES THIS
WISDOM- AND WHAT THANKFULLY WHAT
WE'RE SEEING IS LEADERS IN
CALIFORNIA ARE MAKING
INVESTMENTS IN THIS AREA SUCH AS
CAL SHAPE. FOR H. FAX THROUGH
CDC- SCHOOLYARD GREENING
INVESTMENTS THROUGH CAL FIRE AND
OTHERS BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THESE ARE COORDINATED GOING
FORWARD- ON ENERGY
INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARTICULARLY
CLIMATE JUSTICE. HAS BEEN SAID
THIS INSTRUCTORS REALLY FAST
OVER TEN THOUSAND SCHOOLS SEVEN
HUNDRED THIRTY MILLION SQUARE
FEET OF BUILDINGS IT'S AN
ENORMOUS PUBLIC. BUILT
ENVIRONMENT INFRASTRUCTURE- AND
40% OF THE SCHOOLS ARE OVER
FIFTY YEARS OLD THEY NEED
UPGRADES. IT IS CENTRAL IN THE
CENTER CHALLENGES JUST THAT THAT
MANY OF THESE SCHOOL FACILITIES
ARE OUTMODED AND OR THEY'RE IN.
VARIOUS STATES OF DISREPAIR AND
THESE ARE THE SCHOOLS THAT WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO MITIGATE CLIMATE
HAZARDS AND ADAPT. IN SO RECENT
STUDIES INCLUDING SOME OF OUR
SAID FOUND REAL INEQUITIES IN
THE CONDITIONS OF THESE SCHOOLS
SO THOSE CLIMATE INJUSTICES WILL
BE EXACERBATED IN THOSE
FACILITIES THAT CANNOT ADAPT. TO
BOTH ENERGY AND CLIMATE ISSUES-
AND MANY OF THESE DISTRICTS
UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT HAVE ROBUST
SCHOOL FACILITY PLANS TO ADVANCE
THESE THINGS AND SO THIS IS
WHERE STATE LEADERSHIP CAN
REALLY HAVE A BIG IMPACT- AND SO
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF. FEDERAL
MONIES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH
THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT
ACT- INFLATION BUT REDUCTION
ACTED CETERA BUT A STATEWIDE
NATIONALLY WE REALLY POSITION
CREATE A BROAD VISION POSITION
LOCAL DISTRICTS. TO LEVERAGE
LOCAL STATE. AND FEDERAL MONEY
AS IT'S COMING FORWARD SO THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU. STAY
YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION PLACE
. MISTER CHAIRMAN PRESIDENT TO
TRY TO SUSTAIN US ON BEHALF OF
THE SCHOOL ENERGY COALITION IN
SUPPORT. NORRLAND HOUSE BREAK ON
BEHALF OF REWIRING AMERICA IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. SECURE CARTER
ON BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. HI JONATHAN KLEIN
FROM UNDAUNTED K. TWELVE IN
SUPPORT ALSO- OFFERING A ME TO
COMMENT IN SUPPORT FROM THE NEW
BUILDINGS INSTITUTE AS WELL AS
THE CLIMATE READY SCHOOLS
COALITION. MATT WAS M. F. S.
YEAH YOU CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT.
BERGESEN WITH NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS DAN JACOBSON
WITH ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. ELLIE CULLEN WITH THE
CLIMATE CENTER IN SUPPORT. ALL
RIGHT ARE THERE WITNESSES HERE
IN TWELVE HUNDRED AND OPPOSITION
OF THIS MEASURE. CHIGNON
MODERATE ALERTS GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES INSTRUCTORS WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. SB THREE
NINE FOUR. AND YOU CAN GAIN
COOPER PRESSING ONE AND ZERO
WELL TO ALIGN SEVENTEEN. HI MARY
CREEPY ON BEHALF OF THE CHILDREN
PARTNERSHIP IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU ALL CONNECTS ONLINE EIGHTEEN
. MYANMAR THANKS YES HE A PROUD
CO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT. WE'LL GO
NEXT LINE THIRTY. THEY'RE
CALLING FOR AGAIN FROM CHILDREN
NOW IN SUPPORT. WE'LL GO NEXT TO
LINES THIRTY FIVE. GOOD MORNING
GILLIAN RODRIGUEZ EMBARKING ON
BEHALF OF TENSION IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB THREE NINETY FOUR
. SO NEXT LINE. THIRTY SEVEN.
EIGHTY NINE THEN WITH THE CLIENT
ENTER INTO OF THAT IF YOU A
GREAT. WE'LL GO NEXT LINE FOR
ONE. I'M ANDREA GOING IN AND
THEN STRONG SUPPORT AS HALLE
PROJECT THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL LITERACY
INITIATIVE PROJECT AFTER. WE
HAVE NO FURTHER IN Q. THANK YOU
NOW WILL BRING YOU BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE OTHER ANY QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS WIENER DOG. YEAH MISTER
CHAIRMAN- THE SERVER OUT I THINK
THERE'S A GREAT BILL I THINK
THAT- YEAH THIS IS A MASTER PLAN
IS ABSOLUTELY. INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT TO REALLY GETTING
ASSESSMENT WHAT WE'RE DOING I
GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS
BILL AND I WONDER IF YOU'VE
THOUGHT ABOUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE.
IS WE KEEP DUMPING ON THE CDC
MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE
. AND I WONDER IF WERE. AT RISK-
JUST NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION
ON SO MANY FRONTS THAT WE NEED.
AND I'M WONDER IF THERE SHOULD
BE SOME SORT OF- GET THE- YOU
KNOW. THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING
WE'RE GONNA GET A MASTER PLAN
THEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND
MANDATE THAT ALL SCHOOLS DO X.
Y. Z. AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE-
YOU KNOW. IT'S GONNA BE AS A
MANDATE FROM THE STATE ON
SCHOOLS IN I DON'T THINK WE NEED
TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES THAT
FOR BUT I GUESS I'M JUST
WONDERING IS THERE A BETTER
PLACE WHERE WE CAN GET SOMETHING
LIKE THIS DONE. MORE EFFICIENTLY
AND- MORE IN TUNE WITH THE
SCHOOLS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN
THE WITH THE STATED BOARD OF
EDUCATION IF THEY WOULD HIGHER
ODD STAFF I MEAN OBVIOUSLY
THAT'S GOING TO BE A BUDGET ITEM
BUT- BUDGET ASIDE. I'LL JUST ASK
THAT QUESTION SORRY WHAT ON SO
ON OKAY THANK YOU THROUGH THE
CHAIR- I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION
SO. THE CDC CURRENTLY HAS
CONDUCTED ABOUT FOUR FIVE
PROGRAMS ALREADY- AS MUCH AS A
PROP THIRTY NINE- CAL SHAPE-
WHICH WAS A IN ASSEMBLY MEMBER
TEAM BELL- WERE OF PLUMBING AND
VENTILATION I'M DOLLARS WERE
PROVIDED AND EXPENDED SO THEY-
ALREADY HAVE. IN INVENTORY FROM
MANY OF THESE PROGRAMS SO IT IT
SEEMED A LITTLE EASIER BUT I
UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN BECAUSE
WE HAVE. LEGISLATIVE A LOT
AROUND- PROVIDING CC WITH
AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP US.
BUT I ALSO THINK LIKE THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS.
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS RIGHT NOW
THROUGH THE BY THEN MINISTRATION
TO EXPAND THAT ALSO OFFERS A BIT
OF GUIDANCE SO. I THINK OF
ANYTHING THIS IS THE BILL TO
ACTUALLY. PROVIDE TO THE CDC
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE INVENTORY
THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THE WORK
LET'S FILL THE GAPS. AND THEN
THEY'LL ALSO WORK WITH-
STAKEHOLDERS IN VARIOUS AGENCIES
WITH CARB WITH- DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION SO THERE WILL BE A
STATE AGENCY COALITION AND THEN
ON TOP OF THAT. STAKEHOLDER A
DIVERSE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT
AS WELL WITH- OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES AND THE TRADE UNIONS
AT CETERA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOU ALL. TO- BECKER.
YES WE SAY I THINK THIS IS.
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS A WIN
WIN WIN HEALTH FOR STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS- CLIMATE BENEFITS AND
THEN. ALSO THE WORKFORCE AND
JOB- ASPECTS OF THE SITE TO ALSO
SAY YOU KNOW DURING THE-
PANDEMIC I HAD. SOME ROUND
TABLES WITH WITH THE TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION AND- FEELS LIKE
YOU'RE FOR MAKING YOU FORGET
CREE FILTERING FOR WILDFIRE
SMOKE AND ALSO A REMINDER THAT
CENTRAL VALLEY AT SOME OF THE-
WORST AIR QUALITY IN THE COUNTRY
SO LOS BE HELPFUL- THEY'RE
GENERALLY THAT ALSO THERE'S YOU
KNOW FOR ANY FUTURE. PANDEMICS
THAT MIGHT OCCUR- IT'S ALSO
GOING TO HELP MAKE. THE SCHOOLS
SAFER AGAIN FOR BOTH FOR
STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND- AND
JUST FOR JUST GENERAL- BUDGET
GENERAL HEALTH ON A DAY TO DAY
BASIS FOR- IN THE SPREADING OF
COLDS AND OTHER THINGS INFLUENCE
SO. I'D LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED AS
A CO AUTHOR AT THE MOMENT IT'S
OKAY LET'S. GREAT CENTER GALA.
THANK YOU I'M GONNA BE SO YOUR
BILL TODAY BUT I WANTED TO JUST-
MAYBE BRING YOUR ATTENTION
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU AND I
CAME IN TOGETHER IN THE CLASS OF
TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN INTO
THE SENATE. BUT SENATOR SKINNER
UNDER PROP THIRTY NINE DID A
PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I DON'T
REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT WE
ACTUALLY WORKED ON NEGOTIATING
FOR THE MONEY THAT CAME IN FROM.
PROP THIRTEEN I THINK WAS
PROPPED WAS A PROP THIRTY NINE
YEAH. YES SO THAT TO DO
RETROFITTING TO HELP BRING
SCHOOLS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
WITH THE MONEY. THAT WAS
GENERATED BY THE OUT OF STATE
TAXES- THAT CAME IN. AND SO I
DON'T KNOW WHO MONITORED THAT
BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK DONE
IN THIS AREA AND I WOULD
ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAYBE LOOK AT
THAT. AS THE FORM OF A PILOT TO-
GET INFORMATION ON HOW WE WERE
ABLE TO DO- IMPLEMENTING THE
PROJECTS. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME
DIFFICULTIES WE JUST. CENTER
SKINNER I JUST HAD A
CONVERSATION A SECOND AGO ABOUT.
YOU KNOW WHO ON THE BUILDINGS
AND SOME OF THOSE LEAST OUT
BUILDINGS ANYWAY JUST FOR
INFORMATION- I WAS FOR YOUR BILL
TODAY BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOME
WORK DONE. IN THIS AREA ALREADY
THAT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR YOUR
LEGISLATION YES ABSOLUTELY NAY
THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT WORK-
OUR COALITION PARTNERS AT AND
DAUNTED K. TWELVE HAVE BEEN VERY
VERY VERY ACTIVE ON. PROP THIRTY
NINE OVERSIGHT- AND ALSO CAL
SHAPE AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THE
DIFFERENT- PROGRAMS ADMINISTERED
CURRENTLY BY THE CDC THAT SEEM
TO BE PIECEMEAL SO. THAT'S A
GREAT- ADDITION TO THANK YOU FOR
THAT. THANK YOU SENATOR RUBIO.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR- WELL
THERE'S SOME MÀ NUMBERS THAT
CAUGHT MY ATTENTION RIGHT NOW
WHICH IS THAT 40% OF SCHOOLS ARE
OVER FIFTY YEARS OLD. I MEAN AS
A CLASSROOM TEACHER FOR
SEVENTEEN YEARS I MEAN TO SPEND
SITUATIONS WHERE. IT WE DON'T
EVEN HAVE REGULAR STRUCTURES WE
STILL HAVE BUNGALOWS AND YOU
KNOW AND HI EXTREME WEATHER.
SOMETIMES THEY ARE CONDITIONS
WOULD GO OUT AND WE'D HAVE TO GO
OUTSIDE TO TRY AND TEACH THEM
THERE'S JUST SO MANY SITUATIONS
I THINK IT MIGHT COMPREHENSIVE
APPROACH. TO REALLY ANALYZING
WAIT OUR STUDENTS ARE DEALING
WITH OUR STE OUR TEACHERS ARE
DEALING WITH I THINK IT WAS TIME
AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT STEP TO. TO MOVE OUT
THOSE EFFORTS FORWARD TO
ENSURING THAT THESE OLD
CLASSROOMS AND BUNGALOWS AND
EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT HEALTHY
FOR KIDS. ON THE DAY WE TAKE A
GOOD LOOK AT IT AND I ALSO WANT
TO. JOIN AS A CO AUTHOR I THINK
IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP SELF
THANK YOU FOR THESE EFFORTS
THANK YOU. THANK YOU CENTER
SKINNER. I THINK YOU'RE MOVED
BILL. THE NEW BELIEVE THIS RUBIO
MOVED IT BUT I'LL MOVE IT AND-
CENTER GOALIES CORRECT WE DID-
DIRECT- MOST OF THE FUNDS FROM
TWENTY NINE TO. EFFICIENCY
UPGRADES. AND IMPROVEMENTS IN
OUR SCHOOLS. BUT WE CERTAINLY-
AND WE DID A LOT BUT- WE DIDN'T-
WE NEVER WORK IN OTHER WORDS
THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TO. TO DO
THE WORKS NEEDED IN EVERY SINGLE
SCHOOL. AND OF COURSE SINCE THEN
WE'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE ABOUT.
THE NEED FOR EXAMPLE FOR GOOD
VENTILATION. THERE IT WASN'T
THAT THAT WAS UNKNOWN BUT YOU
WANT TO DESIGN. ANY IN FOR THEIR
YOUR RESILIENCY. OBVIOUSLY TO-
RESPOND IF WE HAVE ANOTHER
PANDEMIC. AND THEN ARE YOU KNOW
BIGGER THREAT NOW WITH HEAT-
EXTREME HEAT DAYS AND HOW WE
CAN- ADDRESS THOSE BUILDINGS
WITHOUT NECESSARILY IN.
INCREASING THEIR- ENERGY DEMAND
LOAD. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT WORK TO DO
UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S A LOT OF
EXPERTISE IN THE ENERGY
COMMISSION BECAUSE IT WAS THE
ENERGY COMMISSION THAT OVERSAW.
ALL OF THE- IMPLEMENTATION OF
THAT PROP TWENTY NINE WORK SO.
WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL AND MOVE IT. THANK YOU
ANY JUST COMMENTS QUESTION BY.
MEMBERS HEARING SOON ON SO I
CLOSE YEAH I JUST I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR THE AYE VOTE WE HAVE
GREAT COALITION PARTNERS AND I
THINK THAT IN IN ADDITION THIS
IS A GREAT BILL FOR BOTH THE
ENVIRONMENT AND OUR FOR OUR
LIBERAL FRIENDS IN LABOR SO WITH
THAT. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NAY
VOTE OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR SKINNER WE HAVE DO
PASSED TO BE AMENDED INTO
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND ALL
TO STATE THOSE AMENDMENTS.
EXTEND THE BILL'S DEADLINES FOR
THE START OF STAKEHOLDER
MEETINGS AND COMPLETION OF
MASTER PLAN TO MARCH TWENTY FOUR
AND MARCH TWENTY FIVE. TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE I SHOULD SAY
RESPECTFULLY THE LEGAL
REQUIREMENT THAT CC ESTABLISH AN
INVENTORY OF K. TWELVE-
BUILDINGS IN THE STATE REQUIRED
REPRESENTATIVES ASSESSMENTS
BASED ON EXISTING DATA
INVOLUNTARY. A REPORTED DATA AND
MAKE OTHER TECHNICAL AND
CONFORMING CHANGES ARE AT RIGHT
NOW RIGHT SO CONSULTING PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON SB THREE NINE
FOUR. BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE DALY
DALY AYE ASHBY. ASHBY I BAKER
ALL RIGHT BAKER I CABALLERO.
CAVIAR AYE DODD. DODD AYE DRAWS
TO. EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ
HI GONZALEZ I GROWTH. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE A MEN. MEN AYE
NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE RUBIO. RUBIO
I. SEE R. TWO. D. R. TWO AYE
SKINNER. RIGHT SKINNER AYE
STERN. WILK. FOURTEEN MAJORETTES
FOURTEEN VOTES WILL LEAVE OR A
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO
ADD ON AND I BELIEVE SENATOR
GONZALEZ IS GOING TO PRESENT NOW
SIX OH FIVE. FOUR SENATOR
PADILLA. YES THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M
HERE TODAY TO PRESENT CENTER BY
THE U. S. SENATE BILL SIX ZERO
FIVE. WHICH WOULD DEVELOP A
STRATEGIC PLAN FOR WAVE AND
TIDAL ENERGY TECHNOLOGY
INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES
AND ENERGY GENERATION GOALS. A
CALIFORNIA HAS SET LOFTY
UNNECESSARY CLIMATE GOALS BUT TO
REACH THEM WE NEED MORE CLEAN
RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES WE HAVE
OVER ONE THOUSAND MILES OF
SHORELINE THAT REPRESENT AN
UNTAPPED SOURCE OF CLEAN AN
ALMOST PERPETUAL ENERGY WAY
POWER IS CLEAN CONSISTENT AND
PREDICTABLE- IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE THE NATIONAL RENEWABLE
ENERGY LABORATORY CONCLUDED THAT
EVEN IF A SMALL PORTION. OF THE
POTENTIAL ENERGY FROM THE OCEAN
IS CAPTURED IT WOULD MAKE
SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR
NATION'S ENERGY NEEDS AND THE
BITE AN ADMINISTRATION IS
ALREADY ALLOCATED TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ADVANCE
THE TECHNOLOGY. AND ARE AT LEAST
A DOZEN COMPANIES AND THERE ARE
AT LEAST A DOZEN COMPANIES IN
CALIFORNIA CURRENTLY EXPLORING
THE POTENTIAL OF WAVE AND TIDAL
POWER GENERATION. SB SIX ZERO
FIVE WILL ACCELERATE THESE
EFFORTS THAT WILL HELP ENSURE
GRID RELIABILITY WITH ENERGY
GENERATED BY CLEAN ABUNDANT AND
RENEWABLE SOURCES. AND IT
REQUIRES THE CDC TO STUDY THE
POTENTIAL FEES ABILITY AND
BENEFITS OF WAVE AND TIDAL
ENERGY IN CALIFORNIA. WITH ME
TODAY HAVE DAN JACOBS AND RICK A
REPRESENTING ALL TO SEE AT THE
PORT OF LOS ANGELES AND I ALSO
HAVE MARCUS LEE MIN OF CAL WAVE
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE. WITH WE'LL LET YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES TO PRIMARY WITNESS
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MR CHAIRMAN MY NAME IS DAN
JACOBSON STANDING IN FOR. TERRY
CAME IN WITH ALL TO SEE COULDN'T
BE HERE BECAUSE OF SOME PLAIN
PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO
INNOVATE THE POLICY ISN'T THAT
THE TECHNOLOGIES IN THE
FINANCING OF NEW CLEAN RENEWABLE
ENERGY SOURCES. FOR OUR STATE IF
WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE OUR AMBITIOUS
GOALS FOR CLEAN AIRING A CLIMATE
RESILIENT ECONOMY. THAT'S WHY
WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO SENATOR
PADILLA AND TODAY TO SENATOR
GONZALEZ. YOUR SPONSOR SB SIX OH
FIVE THE WAVE AND TIDAL ENERGY
BILL. THIS IMPORTANT THIS
IMPORTANT MEASURE WHICH SHUT
CALIFORNIA ON ON THE PATH TOWARD
BECOMING A GLOBAL LEADER. IN
OCEAN ENERGY AND BY DEVELOPING
UNTAPPED SOURCES OF CLEAN
RESILIENT ABUNDANT AND RENEWABLE
ENERGY. WIND AND SOLAR OF HELP
THE STATE TO MEET ITS CLEAN
ENERGY GOALS. BUT THE SUN IS NOT
ALWAYS SHINING AND THE WIND IS
NOT ALWAYS BLOWING. OCEAN WAVE
AND TIDAL ENERGY HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO COMPLEMENT SOLAR
AND WIND. BY PROVIDING A MORE
PREDICTABLE SOURCE OF ENERGY DAY
AND NIGHT. THERE'S CURRENTLY AS
THE SENATOR SAID AT LEAST TWELVE
COMPANIES THAT ARE DEMONSTRATING
THE POTENTIAL HERE. AND WE'VE
GOT MARKETS WOMAN WITH CAL WAVE
WHO CAN GO INTO SOME MORE THE
DETAILS WOULD RESPECTFULLY
URGING A VOTE. THANK YOU ARE
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. SAY TO HIM AN
ORGANIZATION. HELLO MARC SEAMAN
CALL PHARMACY OF COW WAVE POWER
TECHNOLOGY WERE A OAKLAND BASED-
LEADING TECHNOLOGY PROVIDER OF
WAVE ENERGY. TECHNOLOGY FOUNDED
IN TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN BASED
ON RESEARCH DONE AT UC BERKELEY
I WAS A P. I. AT THE- LAWRENCE
BERKELEY NATIONAL LAB HOLD A PHD
AND MBA. AND WE'RE SUPPORTED BY
OVER TWENTY MILLION IN CONTRACTS
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.
IN TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE
TWENTY TWO UIF AND DEMONSTRATED
THE LONGEST CONTINUOUS OPERATING
WEIGHT DEMONSTRATION IN SAN
DIEGO IN COLLABORATION WITH
SCRIPPS INSTITUTION OF
OCEANOGRAPHY. THE SYSTEM
OPERATED FOR TEN MONTHS
CONTINUOUSLY. AND WE'RE NOW
WORKING ON THE DOE FUNDED. TO
YOUR COMMERCIAL DEMONSTRATION.
AND THEREFORE POINTS DID WE-
PROVIDE MAJOR BENEFIT OF WAVE
POWER TO CALIFORNIA. ONE ON THE
CLIMATE AND RESOURCE POTENTIAL
JOBS INDUSTRY GROWTH ENERGY
SECURITY STABILITY AS WELL AS
RATE PAYER COST REDUCTION. THE
WAY POWER CAN PROVIDE 30% OFF
CALIFORNIA AND U. S. PRIMARY
ELECTRICITY WE CAN PROVIDE POWER
AT NIGHT IN WINTER TIMES. AND
THE IPCC HAS FOUND WAVE POWERS
TO LOWEST SOURCE OF CLEAN ENERGY
FROM A- LIFE CYCLE EMISSIONS
PERSPECTIVE. ON A JOB
PERSPECTIVE THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS
SYNERGISTIC WITH OFFSHORE WIND
IF NOT IDENTICAL. AND YUP- SO
FAR MOST OF THE TECHNOLOGY FOR
SOLAR AND WIND IS BEING IMPORTED
WASTE POWER CAN BECOME A JOB
CREATING EXPORTING INDUSTRY IN
CALIFORNIA. AND YOU HAVE THE BIG
CHALLENGE TOWARDS CLEAN HYDROGEN
REALLY REQUIRES SPACE LOAD CLEAN
ENERGY. SO WAVE POWER IS REALLY
THE KEY TO PROVIDE BASELOAD
CLEAN ENERGY TO RUN ELECTROLYZER
IS TWENTY FOUR SEVEN AND REALLY
MAKE SURE WE PRODUCE FULLY CLEAN
HYDROGEN. AS WELL AS THE
RESOURCE IS EXTREMELY ENERGY
DENSE AND IS PROVIDED TO OUR
FRONT DOORS SO LESS TRANSMISSION
LINES WILL ACTUALLY REQUIRED
COMPARED TO OTHER SOURCES. AND
YOUR FOR A REPAIR COST SEVERAL
STUDIES HAVE FOUND THEM OFFSHORE
WIND ALREADY PROVIDING
SIGNIFICANT COST REDUCTION FOR
RATEPAYERS. WAVE POWER BEING
BASELOAD AVAILABLE AT NIGHT IN
WINTER TIMES CAN FURTHER
INCREASE THE TOTAL SAVINGS FOR
RATEPAYERS ON ELECTRICITY PRICES
SO YEAH IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES HERE AND
ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED IN SUPPORT.
OF THIS MEASURE SB SIX OH FIVE.
HERE IN CHINO AND WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. OF SB SIX OH FIVE
HEARING ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED. SHE
NINE. MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO TESTIFY
EITHER IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF SB SIX OH FIVE. OF COURSE
THEY DETERMINE IF YOU SHOULD
MAKE COMMON SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE
BUTTON ZERO. THANK. THEY DO HAVE
SOMEONE THAT HAS HIT UP ONE
WOMAN WHETHER GIVEN THEIR LINE
NUMBER.
AND ACTUALLY GOING TO LINE FORTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS EVEN THANK ON BEHALF OF A
DYNAMIC CALIFORNIA AND WE
SUPPORT EACH EXCEPT BY. THERE
BOOK AND ACTUALLY GO TO LINE
TWENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD AND-
JACKPOT FOR CLIMATE ACTION
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE
IN THE QUEUE. THANK YOU WILL
BRING DISCUSSION BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS- BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS SENATE RECORD
. YEAH I'LL JUST SAY THAT YOU
KNOW KIND OF DOING CLEAN ENERGY
INVESTING FIFTEEN YEARS AGO-
SCENE THAT WAVE AND TIDAL ENERGY
WAS ONE OF THE THINGS ENERGY WAS
ALWAYS ALWAYS TEN YEARS AWAY-
BUT I TRULY HOPE THE WITNESS
RIGHT THAT THE- THAT THE- THESE
TECHNOLOGIES IS HERE NOW. E. R.
AND- SHOWING SUPPORT OF THIS
APPROACH- WITH PILOT PROJECTS IN
ENNIS AND- A STUDY INTO THIS
AREA AND HOPEFULLY THIS CAN BE
ONE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT
THAT CAN BE COMPLEMENTARY TO
SOLAR WIND GOING FORWARD SO- OF
THE BILL APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS CENTER DALLAS I KNOW
THAT- YOU'RE JUST PRESIDING BILL
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR ONE
OF THE WITNESSES I THINK WAS A
SECOND WITNESS I'VE- I WANTED TO
KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF HOW THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IT'S- A
PROGRESS IN THIS AREA. AND THIS
LEGISLATION- ARE GONNA WORK
TOGETHER. YEAH SO- CAL WAY FOR
ALSO MEMBER OFF THE NATIONAL
HYDRO SURVATION MARINE ENERGY
COUNCIL. AND CURRENTLY FEDERAL
CONGRESS HAS ASSIGNED ABOUT
HUNDRED TWENTY MILLION ANNUALLY
FOR MARINE ENERGY TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND GET THE
LARGEST RESOURCE IS A WAVE
ENERGY. SO FAR WE'VE NOT SEEING
AS STRONG COLLABORATION BETWEEN
FEDERAL AND STATE- BUT WITH
OFFSHORE WINDS AND THE NATIONAL
LAPS ESTABLISHING A MARINE
ENERGY CENTER ON THE WEST COAST.
FOR TWENTY MEGAWATT FARM WE HOPE
THAT THERE WILL BE MORE YEAH-
STATE AND FEDERAL COLLABORATION
GOING FORWARD. SO IS THE IS THE
IS THE PILOT PROJECTS THAT ARE
THAT YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING ARE
THEY- FEASIBLE TO DO RIGHT NOW.
CORRECT YEAH WE HAD A TEN MONTHS
CONTINUES PILOTS AND WERE
CURRENTLY ORDERING PARTS FOR THE
NEXT COMMERCIAL TWO YEAR AND
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SELL
POWER TO THE GRID. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS HEARING
NONE TO HAVE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE FOR.
RESPECTFULLY ASK PRIVATE THINGS
OUT BEFORE YOU LEAVE WE HAVE A
DO PASS AS AMENDED TO NOW TO
RESEARCH IS YOUR ACCEPTING
COMMITTEE. MY APOLOGIES HE'S
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS AND THE
AMENDMENTS ARE STATED TO LEAD TO
REQUIREMENTS FOR STRATEGY AS
PROPOSED BY THE BILL WOULD LEAD
TO REQUIREMENTS FOR PLANNING
GOES AND ALLOW POLISH PILOT
PROJECTS UPON APPROPRIATION BY
THE LEGISLATURE CHAU. THOSE ARE
MEANT. YES I GOT TO BE YES AND
THIS WILL BE AMENDED AND NATURAL
RESOURCES. PLEASE COLOR.
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE DALY. SB
SB I BAKER ALL RIGHT BAKER I
HAVE EURO. CARRIER AYE DODD.
DIED I DRAWS- EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I GROWTH.
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE MAN. MAN I
NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE A RUBIO.
RUBIO I SEE ARE TO. C. R. TO AYE
SKINNER SKINNER AYE STERN WILK.
ONE THREE FOUR FIVE AT THIRTEEN.
AM ADDRESS THIRTEEN VOTES WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS TO ADD ON LAST BUT
DEFINITELY NOT LEAST- WE HAVE
CENTER SKINNER PREVENT
REPRESENTING S. B. TWO THREE
THREE.
THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU
MEMBERS ARE WILL BEGIN THAT I AM
ACCEPTING THESE AMENDMENTS BY
THE COMMITTEE I'M ACCEPTING THE
REMOVING OF THE BI DIRECTIONAL
MANDATE FROM THE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I'M ALSO-
ADDING THE REQUIRE CC TO ANALYZE
AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
REGARDING SPECIFIED COST
BENEFITS AND BARRIERS AROUND
MAKING THE EEVEE CHARGER SPY
DIRECTIONAL. I'M AS I THINK THE
COMMITTEE KNOWS CALIFORNIA HAS
MADE SOME. VERY STRONG
COMMITMENTS TOWARDS ELECTRIC
VEHICLES WE HAVE. REBATES AS
WELL AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AND LAST WEEK THE BY
DEMONSTRATION PROPOSED NEW RULES
THAT WILL MASSIVELY ACCELERATE
TV PRODUCTION AND WITH THE
COMBINATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING
ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHAT'S
HAPPENING CALIFORNIA WE'RE WE'RE
GOING TO BE SEEING MANY MANY
MORE. EV'S ON OUR ROADS AND ADD
. WE ALREADY HAVE EXISTING
LEGISLATION WHERE OUR TNCS LIKE
UBER AND LEFT ARE MOVING TO
ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR EXAMPLE
UBER I MET WITH YESTERDAY AND
NOW 10% OF THE RIGHTS THAT THEY
ARE PROVIDING- IN EV'S. SO
THERE'S A- BUT PROGRESS IS BEING
MADE AND AS THE STAGE IS SET FOR
INCREASED DB RELIANCE WE NEED TO
ALSO SET THE STAGE TO BE ABLE TO
UTILIZE EBS TO THEIR FULL
POTENTIAL. NOW IN TWENTY TEN I
CARRIED THE BILL THAT HAD
CALIFORNIA SET A PURCHASING
POLICY FOR UTILITY GRADE
BATTERIES- IN ORDER TO FOR US TO
BE ABLE TO STORE THE
ELECTRICITY. WHEN WE ARE
GENERATING HIGH AMOUNTS OF
ELECTRICITY SAY FROM SOLAR SO
THAT THEN WE COULD DEPLOY IT
WHEN FOR EXAMPLE SOIL SOLAR IS
NOT GENERATING. AND WHEN I
INTRODUCED A BILL IN TWENTY TEN.
PEOPLE I PACKED IT WAS PASSED
BUT I WASN'T IF PEOPLE CANNELLA
AYE WELL THIS IS A GREAT IDEA
BUT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT FEASIBLE
AND THEIR TECHNOLOGY IS NOT
AVAILABLE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE-
AND YOU KNOW. IT'S KIND OF WELL
CALIFORNIA IS NOW THE WORLD'S
LEADER IN UTILITY GREAT STORAGE
WE DEPLOYED ON THE HOTTEST DAY
OF THE YEAR LAST YEAR WE
DEPLOYED IN THE AMOUNT OF
BATTERY STORAGE THAT WAS GREATER
THAN THE POWER THAT IS GENERATED
BY DIABLO CANYON. AND WE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO MEET MANY OF OUR
RENEWABLE ENERGY GOALS BECAUSE
OF THAT ENERGY STORAGE NOW I
GIVE YOU THAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE
AND IT'S INTERESTING WHEN I USE
THAT BILL. I HOPE HELD UP OUR
PHONE AND I SAID YOU KNOW
EVERYONE OF US ARE CARING IN OUR
POCKET AND ENERGY STORAGE DEVICE
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. NOW THE
OTHER DEVICE THAT IS AN ENERGY
STORAGE DEVICES THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE. THE BATTERIES IN OUR
ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE MORE
POWERFUL. THEY HAVE MORE
CAPACITY THAN THE BATTERIES THAT
LET'S SAY NOW YOU YOU MIGHT BE
LOOKING AT ADDING SOLAR. TO YOUR
HOUSE TO A COMMERCIAL BUILDING
OR TO YOUR HOUSE AND YOU MAY
HAVE YOUR SOLAR INSTALLER
PITCHED YOU TO BUY A BATTERY
PACK IN ADDITION TO THE SOLAR.
SO THAT YOU CAN.
STORE THAT
SOLAR WELL IT.
THE NEW AT NEXT MODEL YEAR SO
WE'RE ALREADY MOVING IN THIS
DIRECTION BUT WE NEED ALL OF OUR
VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS TO MOVE
THEIR EV'S TO BI DIRECTIONAL SO
THAT WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND
THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY
UTILIZE THE EEVEE SAY WHEN THE
ELECTRICITY DEMAND IS HIGHEST IN
RATES ARE HIGHEST. IF YOU'VE
CHARGED YOUR E. B. AT NIGHT WHEN
THE RATES ARE LOWER AND WHEN
DEMAND IS NOT AS GREAT YOU COULD
THEN USE ALLIES YOUR EEVEE TO
POWER YOUR HOUSE FOR A COUPLE
HOURS WHILE THOSE RATES ARE THE
HIGHEST. IN THUS SAVING YOU A
GREAT DEAL OF MONEY AND PULLING
OFF THE DEMAND WHICH WHICH OF
COURSE WILL HELP US REDUCE POWER
OUTAGES NOW WITH THE EXPECTATION
THAT EIGHT MILLION EV'S WILL BE
ON THE ROADS IN CALIFORNIA BY
TWENTY THIRTY. IF JUST WITH LESS
THAN 10% OF THOSE E. BEES WERE
TO BE UTILIZED IN THIS WAY. IT
WOULD HAVE MORE GIGAWATT
CAPACITY AGAIN THAN DIABLO
CANYON HAS TODAY SO THERE'S
GREAT POTENTIAL HERE NOW SOME
SAY YOU KNOW NOT AVAILABLE YET
MAY BE EXPENSIVE BUT THAT'S WHY
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE. THAT OUR
E. VIS. WHICH YOU KNOW YOU'RE
GOING TO OWN FOR A GOOD NUMBER
OF YEARS THAT THEY HAVE THIS
CAPACITY SO WHEN THIS TECHNOLOGY
IS MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE WHEN THE
CHARGING IS MUCH MORE AVAILABLE.
AND WHEN OUR RATES START GOING
HIGHER AND HIGHER AS WE MOVE TO
ELECTRIFY WE HAVE THIS ABILITY.
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MY
BILL. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE- I'M-
AND I WOULD LIKE MY WITNESSES
ELLIE CØNG WHO CEO OF THE
CLIMATE CENTER AND GREGORY.
PALANI WHO IS THE C. E. O. OF
NAVY. ARE YOU EACH UP TWO
MINUTES SIR YOU MAY BEGIN. OKAY
THANK YOU CHAIR BRADFORD AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M ELLIE
COHEN CEO OF THE CLIMATE CENTER
WHICH IS SPONSORING SB TWO
THIRTY THREE AND MANY THANKS TO
SENATOR SKINNER FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS LEGISLATION.
AS THE CLIMATE CRISIS RAPIDLY
WORSENS AND WE FACE MORE
EXTREMES WILL FACE MORE POWER
OUTAGES THE CURRENT PLAN TO
AVOID BLACKOUTS IS TO FIRE UP
NATURAL GAS PEAKER PLANTS.
LOCATED PRIMARILY IN LOWER
INCOME WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES
AND TO USE PROPANE AND DIESEL
GENERATORS. FURTHER POLLUTING
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND CLIMATE.
CALIFORNIA CAN DO BETTER BY
USING ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS
BATTERIES ON WHEELS TO KEEP THE
LIGHTS ON USING EV'S IN OUR
DRIVE WISE IN OUR SCHOOL YARDS
AND OUR CITY LOTS. AND PAYING E.
V. OWNERS FOR THAT POWER THE
BILL IS SUPPORTED BY OVER SIXTY
ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING
ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE GROUPS EVEY INDUSTRY
LEADERS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS. THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION PROJECTS WILL
HAVE UPWARDS OF EIGHT MILLION
EV'S AS A SENATOR JUST EXPLAIN
BY TWENTY THIRTY. WITH THE
COMBINED POWER OF AT LEAST SIXTY
GIGAWATTS SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
THAT EXCEEDS THE HIGHEST
ELECTRICITY DEMAND EVER IN
CALIFORNIA WHICH WAS FIFTY TWO
GIGAWATTS LAST SEPTEMBER SIXTH
DURING THAT TERRIBLE HEAT WAVE.
IF WE USE EVEN A TINY PERCENTAGE
OF THAT EVEN CAPACITY WE CAN
SECURE A MORE RESILIENT AND
RELIABLE POWER GRID. THIS BILL
SENDS A CRITICAL MARKET SIGNAL
IT HELPS CALIFORNIA LEVERAGE
THIS MASSIVE EVEY ENERGY
CAPACITY AND HELPS ENSURE ENERGY
RESILIENCE IS AVAILABLE TO EVERY
CALIFORNIANS EVERY EVEY PRICE
POINT. WE URGE YOU TO VOTE I IN
SUPPORT OF SB TWO THIRTY THREE A
KEY UNLOCKED TO THE GRID FOR THE
FUTURE ONE THAT'S CLEAN
AFFORDABLE RELIABLE EQUITABLE
AND SAFE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU THE QUICKNESS. SHARON
BRADFORD AND SENATE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS GREAT PRIME
AND THE CEO OF THE CORPORATION.
BOB KELLY FOR THAT COMPANY AND
WORLD LEADER OF BIDIRECTIONAL
VEHICLE TO GRID TECHNOLOGY- AND
I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF SENATE
BILL TWO THIRTY THREE TO SHARE
MY KNOWLEDGE ON THE VEHICLE TO
GRID TECHNOLOGY AND ADOPTION.
THE NEEDY INTO MOBILE STORAGE IS
CRITICAL TO PROVIDE THE FIXITY
TI AGREED- NEEDS. THIS STRATEGY
COMPLIMENTS CALIFORNIA STORAGE-
STATIONARY STORAGE GOALS AND HIS
HEDGE AGAINST POTENTIAL SUPPLY
CHAIN CHALLENGES AND OTHER FACT
THAT MIGHT AFFECT THEM. MY
COMPANY NUVIAS AND MATCH REAL
WORLD EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE
IN BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGING.
TODAY IN CALIFORNIA WHERE
HELPING TEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS USE
B. TWO G. TO REDUCE THE COST OF
ELECTRIFYING THEIR FLEETS AND
GIVING THEM A MORE MONEY FOR
STUDENT INSTRUCTION WHILE
SUPPORTING CLEAN TRANSPORTATION.
AND RENEWABLE PENETRATION. THESE
PROJECTS INCLUDE V. TWO G.
INTEGRATION TO THREE DIFFERENT
SCHOOL BUS MANUFACTURERS SO IT
CAN BE DONE. FIVE ARE I CAN FIND
A PROJECTS ARE IN SENATE.
DISTRICT REPRESENTED BY MEMBERS
OF THIS COMMITTEE TODAY DISTRICT
ONE FOURTEEN AND TWENTY SIX. IN
SAN DIEGO LAST YEAR. DURING OUR
HISTORY TEN DAY HEATWAVE THE
CALLIN VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT USER V. D. PLATFORM TO
HELP KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. NOW WE
HAVE THREE V. TWO G. SCHOOL BUS
FLEETS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY
PROVIDING. NEARLY ONE MEGAWATT
OF CAPACITY FOR THE SUMMER
EMERGENCY LOAD REDUCTION
PROGRAM. NEW HE'S ALSO BEEN
PROCESS OF DEPLOYING ANOTHER ONE
POINT FIVE MEG ABOUT IN THE L.
A. W. P. TERRITORY SUPPORTING
GET EXTRICATION. OF L. A. YOU AS
THE SCHOOL BUS FLEETS WE SEE
VEHICLE TO GRID AS AN ESSENTIAL
TECHNOLOGY YOU KNOW TO ADOPT TO
ACHIEVE. EVEN DEPARTMENT GOALS
WHILE KEEPING ENERGY COSTS
EQUITABLE. CALIFORNIA MUST
APPROACH B. TWO G. THE SAME
WEIGHT AS TREATED ROOFTOP SOLAR
OR IF YOU HAD OPTIONS WITH GOALS
INCENTIVE. AND FOSTERING
STAKEHOLDER COLLABORATION AS B.
TWO THIRTY THREE DOES ALL THESE.
AND WILL HELP TRANSFORM TODAY'S
MEGA WATTS- THAT BE ABLE TO BE
DEPLOYED. IN TWO GIGABYTES THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU NO WAY
OUT THROUGH WITH HERE THE ROOM
DISTRICT NAME YOUR- YOUR
POSITION ENVIRO HEALTH. SUPPORT
THANK YOU. LILLIAN MARVIS WITH
MC HERE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU. SECURE CARTER ON
BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. YOU NEED
TO. SEND THE A SALAD ON BEHALF
OF INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG IN STRONG SUPPORT OF S.
B. TWO THIRTY THREE. THANK YOU
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
TWELVE HUNDRED AND SUPPORT. SHE
NINE NOW WILL MOVE TO WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. PRIMARY WITNESS
HAS TWO MINUTES. MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS I'M CURT AUGUSTINE AND
THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE
ALLIANCE FOR AUTOMOTIVE
INNOVATION WHICH IS THE TRADE
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING ALL THE
AUTOMAKERS AS WELL AS MANY OF
THE TECHNOLOGY PROVIDERS FOR
ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS WELL. AS
THE BATTERIES TO GO IN THOSE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES. FIRST OFF I'D
LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOUR STAFF'S
ANALYSIS ON THIS BILL IT'S A
VERY COMPLEX ISSUE. AND I WOULD
ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO ADOPT
FULLY THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
ARE IN THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS-
WITH WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO
SENATOR SKINNER I'M PERPLEXED
ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS THAT SHE IS
OFFERED. SHE'S EXEMPTING ALL THE
UTILITIES THE SERVICE PROVIDERS
THE CHARGING UNITS BUT YET
REQUIRING A MANDATE ON THE AUTO
MAKERS WITHIN TWO AND A HALF
YEARS TO PROVIDE A TECHNOLOGY.
THAT WHILE WE SUPPORT AND AS SHE
IS ACTUALLY NOTED VEHICLES HAVE
THEM TODAY BUT TO REQUIRE THAT
EVERY VEHICLE. TO HAVE THAT
TECHNOLOGY- ONE. LIMITS CONSUMER
CHOICE IT'S UNCLEAR AS TO WHAT
IF THAT IS THE NEED TO BE BRIEF
AGAIN HER OWN NEW AMENDMENTS AB-
ELIMINATE THE UTILITIES WE DON'T
EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS ON
THAT. SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE
AGAIN- TURNING THE BILL INTO A
FURTHER TO EXPANDING ON THEM AND
THAT SHE'S JUST TAKEN TO STUDY
THE ISSUE FURTHER. AND TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THIS
VEHICLE TO GRID INTEGRATION AND
ALL THE BENEFITS THAT WE'VE JUST
BEEN HEARING ABOUT. THERE IS
ALSO A FURTHER STUDY THE RIVER
IS NEEDED TO BE LOOKED AT AT THE
STRAIN ON- IN BATTERIES- THERE
ARE MANY FINE INSTITUTIONS WHO
WERE SAYING THAT THIS COULD
JEOPARDIZE BUT BADLY REAL LIFE.
AND THAT PUTS US IN CONFLICT
WITH THE NEW- ADVANCE CLEAN CAR
REGULATIONS SO ONCE AGAIN I
WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE YOUR
COMMITTEES ANALYSIS- AND
RECOMMENDATIONS IN FULL AND OF
SAID WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED THANK YOU. THANK
YOU THE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS MAKAYLA ELDER I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF CAL START ON CAL START
THINKCENTRE SKINNER FOR THE
AMENDMENTS ON EVSC- BUT DOES
FEEL THAT THE MANDATE ON
VEHICLES IS NOT GOOD FOR ON. THE
INDUSTRY OR CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT THIS.
GOOD MORNING AUDRA HARTMAN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION
COALITION WE HAVE A SUPPORT
EXCUSE ME OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THE BILL. THANK YOU
. ALL RIGHT GENE NO OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION WILL GO
TO OUR PHONE LINES ARE MODERATED
PLEASE QUEUE UP WITH THIS IS
WISHING TO. SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
IN OPPOSITION OF S. B. TWO THREE
THREE. OF COURSE ONE IN LATER M.
IF WE SHOULD WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION AT ONE
POINT. ZERO WE'LL GO TO LINE
FOURTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS JOHN SARTOR- I AM A
GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPER HERE IN
CALIFORNIA SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY
SIX- I WORK IN THESE FIELDS HAS
REALLY LED ME INTO A FAIRLY DEEP
EXPERTISE IN. RENEWABLE ENERGY
ENERGY STORAGE. AND I JUST WANT
TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT
THIS IS REALLY THE LOGICAL NEXT
STEP. IN ENERGY STORAGE. AND AS
CALIFORNIA AS MILLIONS OF THE
THESE THEY CAN EITHER BE A
STRAIN ON OR JUST GOING TO ASK
YOU STATE YOUR NAME YOUR YOUR
POSITION PLAYERS. OKAY MY NAME
IS JOHN SARTOR- I AM IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL THANK YOU. THE
QUICKNESS. WHAT A LINE TEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. DIANA WINE AND
ALL ON BEHALF OF CLIMATE REALITY
PROJECT AND FERNANDO VALLEY AND
LA CHAPTERS IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF. SB TWO THREE THREE. BUT A
LINE TWENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
. JOHN **** FOR CLIMATE ACTION
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE BILL AND THANK YOU. SENATOR
SKINNER AND THE CLAIM NUMBER.
BUT A LINE. FOR PLEASE GO AHEAD
. NICOLE RIVERA SENATOR SKINNER
CONSTITUENT IN CALIFORNIA
CONSUMER IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
. AT THE LINE FIFTY SIX PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
ROGER DICKINSON ON BEHALF OF
DIFFICULT FORMERLY THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT COMMISSION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. MEXICO LINE FIFTY Q.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MY TO YOUR LINES OPEN. I
YESTERDAY MORNING- WALNUT CREEK
IN SUPPORT. WELL ALLIANCE FIVE
THESE ARE AT. ROGER GLENN WITH
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY
THE AND STRONG FOR THANK YOU. AN
EXTRA LINE SIXTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES ROBERT PERRY ON
BEHALF OF THE WORLD BUSINESS
ACADEMY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF S.
B. TWO THIRTY THREE THANK YOU.
IT'S CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE IN
THE QUEUE. THANK YOU WILL BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ARE
THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
SENATOR DALLAS. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN I KNOW THIS IS A THIS
MAKES SENSE RIGHT WHEN YOU SAY
IT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL
THAT I THINK'S LACKING HERE ON.
NUMBER ONE IT'S A MANDATED AND
I'VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF US
SETTING TARGETS AND MANDATING
SOMETHING WITHOUT DOING OUR DUE
DOES JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S
GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN A WAY
THAT WE WANTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED
OBVIOUSLY- WE'VE ALL SEEN THAT
FORD F. ONE FIFTY COMMERCIAL
WHERE THEY DRIVE UP THE MOUNTAIN
IN A PARK AT THE CABIN IN A-
PLUG THE TRUCK IN AND TURN THE
LIGHTS ON. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
BILLS GOAL IS BUT TO GET IT DONE
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. THE ABILITY
TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE
THAT THE HOME IS. ABLE TO
RECEIVE THE POWER IN A WAY THAT
IT SHOULD BE YOU SEE THAT'S A
COST NUMBER ONE- THE LIFE OF THE
BATTERY WHICH WAS BROUGHT BY THE
OPPOSITION I THINK IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO E. I'M
BECAUSE- MY MAIN MAIN CONCERN IS
THAT. YOU KNOW WE SHOULD LOOK AT
MAYBE SEVEN MINUTES BECAUSE ALL
HARD. TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN. ON
ONE IT PART OF THE INDUSTRY BUT
THERE'S A LOT OTHER MOVING
PIECES THAT HAVE TO BE. LOOKED
AT. I'M REALLY OFF YOUR BILL
LIKE I'M GONNA GET TO SEE IT
AGAIN AND- TRANSPORTATION I
BELIEVE- AND SO IS HOPEFUL THAT
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT
SOME OF THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TO GET
US TO A PLACE WHERE- WE DON'T
HAVE THAT DROP DEAD DATE OF.
TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN ON THE
MANUFACTURE THE VEHICLE WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE- LIFE CYCLE OF THE
BATTERY THE COST. AND THEN
IMPLEMENTING I THINK THIS IS
DOABLE BUT I THINK THE- DECIDING
THE HARD STOP- IN ONLY TALKING
ABOUT. THE ONE SECTOR OF IT IS
IT IS ISSUE FOR ME AT LEAST.
SENATOR KABIR. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH- MISTER CHAIR- SENATOR AYE
AYE YOU USE IT YOU MADE A
STATEMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF.
AT PRESENTING YOUR BILL AND I
JUST WANNA. MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT-
AMENDMENT YOU WERE TAKING- AND
BECAUSE- THE CHALLENGE I HAVE
WITH ADDING MORE REQUIREMENTS AT
THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME.
IS THAT. I THINK. WE HAVE ROLLED
OUT OUR CLIMATE CHANGE EFFORTS.
DISPROPORTIONATELY AND HAVE
HURT. LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES-
WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE CREATED THESE
INCENTIVES SO THAT. PEOPLE CAN
BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND
THAT'S GREAT. MMHM YOU KNOW
THAT'S REALLY EXCELLENT. WHAT
WOULD THEY HAVE BOUGHT THAT
VEHICLE ANYWAY NUMBER ONE AND
NUMBER TWO DID IT IT. DID IT
INFLATE THE COST OF THE VEHICLE.
AND I'M TALKING TESLA'S HERE
RIGHT I MEAN DID IT. SUSTAIN A
REAL HIGH- PRICE POINT FOR SALE-
RATHER THAN INCENTIVIZE. FOR LOW
INCOME PEOPLE. PEOPLE IN MY
DISTRICT HAVE NOT TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE. REBATE NUMBER ONE
BECAUSE I GOT TO PAY THE MONEY
UP FRONT AND NUMBER TWO BECAUSE-
OR TAX BREAKS OR READ IT
WHATEVER IT IS ON. IT THEY JUST
CAN'T AFFORD IT AND I'VE TALKED
TO PEOPLE WHO SAID YOU KNOW WE
WENT TO THE DEALERS AND COULDN'T
COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUY IT AT. A
NEW VEHICLE AND SO BEFORE WE
MOVE INTO. MAC CREATING
INCENTIVES FOR BI DIRECTIONAL
VEHICLES I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE REALLY CREATING AN
OPPORTUNITY AND THE SAME THING
GOES FOR SOLAR PANELS. YOU KNOW
IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A TAX REBATE
AND YOU GOTTA BE MIDDLE CLASS AT
LEAST TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOLAR ON
YOUR ROOF TOP AND- IT IT'S JUST
DUMB WELL I'M I'M REALLY
STRUGGLING WITH TRYING TO GET.
THE RESOURCES THE DEAD. LIMITED
RESOURCES THE STATE HAS INTO
THOSE COMMUNITIES IN A WAY THAT
ACTUALLY HELPS THEM IN THEIR DAY
TO DAY LIFE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO
DRIVE LONG DISTANCES. IT'S JUST
THE NATURE RURAL CALIFORNIA AND
THEY AND THAT MEANS THEY'VE GOT
A TO GET TO WORK THEY GOT TO
HAVE A VEHICLE THAT- THAT WORKS
FOR THEM AND SO YEAH I'M I
THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT.
YOU WERE- ELIMINATING THE BI
DIRECTIONAL DATE AND THEY ARE SO
IF SO IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT
WOULD BE THROUGH THE CHAIR SO. I
AM. IN TALKING TO THE CHAIR. ARM
EXPRESSED WILLINGNESS TO ALLOW
THE BILL TO- DEPENDING ON THE
VOTES OF COURSE IN THE
COMMITTEE. TO MOVE WITH SPEED
REQUIREMENT ON THE MODEL YEAR
TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN BUT REMOVING
THE MANDATE ON THE OTHER. AND
THE REASON THAT. SO LET ME FIRST
SAY. APPRECIATE THEIR STILL LOOK
FOR IN THEM. I DON'T HAVE ANY V.
NO I DON'T HAVE ANY BE PRIMARILY
BECAUSE- I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE
AND I HAVE NO EXTERNAL- PLUG.
YOU KNOW IN MY I'D HAVE TO ADD
THE ELECTRICAL TO HAVE EXTERNAL
PLUGIN SECTION OF PRIDE HAVE TO
STRETCH THE CORD. TO THE STREET
BUT ANYWAY. SO BE VENTURE WHERE
WELL. AND OF COURSE IT'S MUCH
MORE ATTRACTIVE TO ME. TO HAVE
ANY V. AT THE POINT WHERE I
COULD. POTENTIALLY UTILIZE THE
E. B. DURING THE TIME WHEN RATES
ARE HIGHEST FOR YOU KNOW A
COUPLE HOURS A DAY- BECAUSE YOU
KNOW I DON'T HAVE AIR
CONDITIONING EITHER AND YET WITH
THE TYPE OF HEAT THAT WERE.
INCREASING IN CALIFORNIA YOU
KNOW AT SOME POINT ALL RIGHT DO
YOU NEED AIR CONDITIONING AND
THEN OF COURSE WHEN WOULD I BE
TURNED MY AIR CONDITIONER ON
WHEN RATES ARE HIGHEST. AND WHEN
THE DEMAND IS GREATEST SO
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF MY EVEY
COULD POWER IT FOR THOSE TWO
HOURS OR HOWEVER LONG. NOW AS I
MENTIONED WHEN I OPENED NISSAN
WHICH IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE
EV'S AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET
HAVE ALWAYS HAD BI DIRECTIONAL
CAPACITY SO IT DID NOT. HUGELY
ADD TO THE PRICE OF THE OF THAT
NISSAN MODEL. ENDS NEVER BEEN AN
ISSUE AS OUR- VICE BELIEVE MR
DALI POINTED OUT FORD IS ALREADY
ADVERTISING THERE- TRUCK WITH
THAT CAPABILITY. SO MIGHT MIGHT
INTENT WITH RETAINING THAT
MANDATE AS MUCH AS OUR
MANUFACTURERS YOU KNOW OR SEEN
IT THEN ALL OF IT. IS BECAUSE
ONCE YOU PURCHASE IN AB IF YOU
START PURGING WENT SAY IN TWENTY
TWENTY SEVEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
IT FOR A LONG TIME. SO WHY DO
YOU WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION
WHERE YOU OWN THAT VEHICLE TENER
LONGER YEARS AND YOU DON'T HAVE
THE- CAPABILITY AS RATES.
POTENTIALLY GO HIGHER.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOW INCOME
TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO
OFFSET. WHEN RATES ARE HIGHEST.
NOW THE GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR
THIS IS PROBABLY FOR FLEETS AND
POWERING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
BUT AGAIN WHY WOULD WE WHY WOULD
BE SAY OKAY IT ONLY HAS TO BE
THE ECB'S AND NOT OTHERS WE
SHOULD REALLY ALLOW. ALL EVEY
SINCE THEY HAVE THIS CAPACITY TO
BE BI DIRECTIONAL SO THAT WE AS
THIS TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES. AND
BECOMES MORE CLEAR WHEN IT IS
MOST PRACTICAL THAT IT'S
AVAILABLE AND PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE
IT WHETHER. FOR AGAIN AS FLEET
OWNER FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR
FOR. FOR THEIR HOME OR HOWEVER.
SO THAT'S WHY I AM. WE WORKED
WITH THE CHAIR TO OUR RECOMMEND
TAKING A SET OF THE AMENDMENTS
BUT NOT ALL AGAIN IF COMMITTEE
SWELLING. THAT'S RIGHT. SENATOR
GROWTH. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
I WAS IN THAT HEARING WHEN YOU
HELD UP THAT BATTERY PHONE AND
SAID WE HAVE A BATTERY CHARGER
AND- THAT CHARGING DEVICE IN OUR
IN OUR POCKETS. AND I GET WHERE
YOU'RE GOING I DO- I'VE SEEN THE
SAME COMMERCIAL THAT SENATOR
DOLLY HAS SEEN. AND SO I JUST
HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST
OUT OF CURIOSITY HAVE A COUPLE
QUESTIONS AND THEN ONE FOR THE
MANUFACTURERS OF WE COULD HAVE
THEM COME BACK UP. DOES WILL IT-
IS OUR TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT
WILL NOT ALLOW THE BATTERY
DRAINAGE B. SO MUCH- IT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON THE
COMMENTS FROM THE OPPOSITION IS
THAT. AND THE CURRENT BATTERIES
THAT WE USE IN EV'S WILL BE- AT
THEIR LIFE WILL BE SHORTENED. A
GOING BACK AND FORTH AND LIKE I
SAID I LOVE THE COMMERCIALS. SO
THERE'S- THERE'S A DEBATE ON
THAT QUESTION. AND THERE'S IT
BUT IF WE LOOK AT MOST. VEHICLE
OWNERS. NOT ALL OBVIOUSLY
THERE'S CONCEPTIONS BUT MOST
VEHICLE OWNERS ONLY USE THEIR
VEHICLE FOR A VERY LIMITED
NUMBER OF MILES IN A DAY. AND SO
THEY ARE WAY UNDER UTILIZING
THEIR BATTERY CAPACITY. NOW IT
IS POSSIBLE THAT IF YOU'RE YOU
KNOW IF YOU ARE ONE WHO IS
UTILIZING DRIVING YOUR VEHICLE
THREE HUNDRED MILES OR MORE A
DAY WHICH IS RARE. BUT YEAH OF
COURSE OBVIOUSLY IN SOME OF YOUR
DISTRICTS THAT MIGHT BE MORE
COMMON. YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT OPT
NOT TO UTILIZE THAT BATTERY FOR
POWERING. SAY YOUR HOME EXCEPT
RARELY EXCEPT IN THE HIGHEST YOU
DAYS OR THE MODEST DEMAND FOR
EXAMPLE WHEN YOU GET THE TEXT
THAT SAYS YOU KNOW PLEASE TURN
OFF YOUR STUFF SO YOU'RE IN YOU
DON'T WANT TO FRY IN YOUR HOUSE
EACH SIDE OKAY I'M NOT GOING TO
TURN EVERYTHING OFF I'M GONNA
INSTEAD. YOU KNOW SWITCH OVER
AND LET MY EP POWER- ON. BUT AT
THE CONCERN THAT IT. WELL ANYWAY
I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THANK YOU AND I HAVE A QUESTION
FOR THAT MANUFACTURERS- IF YOU
HAVE A CURRENT TV IF YOU HAVE A
CURRENT TV NOW WITH THE CURRENT
BATTERY AND THE CURRENT- PLUGIN
CAPACITY. IS THERE TECHNOLOGY
OUT THERE TO- AT THAT WILL ALLOW
THESE CURRENT EV'S. TO HAVE SOME
TYPE OF UPGRADE MAYBE THEY COULD
EXCHANGE THE BATTERY A DIFFERENT
PLAY AGAIN OR THEY HAVE TO BUY A
WHOLE NEW CAR. AND IN THE
CURRENT TV DOESN'T DO THIS BY-
BY DIRECT. AND PROCESS- MISTER
CHAIRMAN SENATOR OF OCCURRED
AUGUSTINE WITH THE- AUTO
INNOVATORS- YES THAT TECHNOLOGY
TO ADD ON CAN BE DONE BY
AFTERMARKET COMPANIES OR BY SOME
OF OUR MANUFACTURERS THEMSELVES
YES. THANK YOU WOULD YOU BE
CHEAPER THAN BUYING ANOTHER
ELECTRIC VEHICLE. ALMOST
CERTAINLY YES THANK YOU HE JUST.
STARTED ASSET AND THEN I SO I
APPRECIATE THAT THAT CLARIFIES A
LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEN IT MY
LAST QUESTION IS THAT YOU
EXEMPTS THE I. A. O. USER THAT.
THE UTILITIES ON THE MANDATE SO
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT I'M
JUST LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SENATOR
CAFIERO HAD MENTIONED- OF HOW WE
ROLLED OUT THIS PLAN. AND FOR
GREEN TECHNOLOGY SO WHAT I FACE
AND THE REASON WHY AND THERE WAS
A DEEP CONCERN FROM MY FRIENDS
AND I- USE ABOUT OTHER BILLS
THAT CAME THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE
THIS MORNING. IS THAT AND- YOU
KNOW IN CERTAIN AREAS- FARMERS
ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE- ELECTRIC
FORKLIFTS SO THEY CONVERT TO
LECTURE FORKLIFTS THEY PUT SOLAR
BEST RESOURCES TO PUT SOLAR
FIELDS AND TAKE AG LAND DATA
PROTECTION- PRODUCTION. AND THEN
THEY STILL CANNOT GET
CONNECTIVITY. SO THEY'RE USING
GAS POWERED GENERATORS BIG ONES
ON DIESEL TRUCK BEDS BIG TRUCK
BEDS. BIG ONES TOO AT. KEEP
THEIR COLD STORAGE COLD SO THAT
THEY GET THEIR PRODUCT MARKET SO
ON AND SO FORTH. THE SAME WITH A
LOT OF US ARE NOT ME BUT I'VE
HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE
PORTS CONTACT ME. IN OUR PORTS
SUCH AS LONG BEACH THEY'RE
REQUIRED TO HAVE ELECTRIC
VEHICLES IN ORDER FOR ELECTRIC
FORKLIFTS IN ORDER TO HAVE THEIR
LEASE- ED DOES THEY USE GAS
POWERED GENERATORS TO PROVIDE
POWER TO THE LIKE FORKLIFTS
BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE SOLD
THEY CAN'T GET THREE DAYS OR
FIVE DAYS POWER WHATEVER IT IS.
TO THESE- BUILDINGS THERE.
EXEMPTING THE UTILITIES TO NOT
HAVE OR THE I. O. USED TO NOT
HAVE. AN CONNECT ABILITY OR
REQUIREMENTS TO BE ABLE TO-
ADAPT TO THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR
THIS BI DIRECTIONAL TRANSFER. I
DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PEACE SO
WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS I
MEAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO CONNECTED IN ORDER FOR
THIS TO WORK. SO WHY ARE WE
EXEMPTING THEM. BECAUSE THEY'RE
NOT THE BEST EXAMPLES OF
CONNECTIVE ITTY LATELY. WELL I
CLEARLY MY BILLING INTRODUCTION
WOULD HAVE REQUIRED BUT- THE I
THINK THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS
THAT. IF THE- THERE. CHARGERS
AND YOU CAN GET THAT HAVE THIS
CAPABILITY SO YOU'RE NOT THEY'RE
NOT UNAVAILABLE. SO THE
DIFFERENCE WITH- WITH EXEMPTING
THEM AS WELL IT DOES NOT. GET US
TO THE POINT WHERE EVERY SINGLE
CHARGER OUT THERE. IS GOING TO
HAVE THIS CAPABILITY YOU CAN
ELECT TO HAVE IT. AND THE AND-
IF YOUR VEHICLE HAS IT YOU DON'T
ESPECIALLY BY MODEL YEAR TWENTY
TWENTY SEVEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO
GO AND PAY EXTRA. TO CONVERT
YOUR VEHICLE TO HAVE IT YOU SEE.
SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THE SECOND
ISSUE IS THAT. THE AMENDMENTS
ALLOW THE CCD COME BACK TO US.
AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THEY WILL
COME BACK TO US AND SAY LOOK
THIS IS A VERY FEASIBLE I MEAN
DEPENDS IT'S WORTH IT IS. I
AGREED WITH THE COMMITTEE
ANNOUNCES THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE
TO HAVE THEM LOOK. AT YOU KNOW
HOW YOU WOULD ROLL THIS OUT IN A
WAY THAT IS MOST CARDS COST
EFFECTIVE. NOW THERE'S-
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THERE
ALREADY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE.
GOOD DO IT YOURSELFERS CAN DO
THIS NOW. AND THERE WAS AN
ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES IN
DECEMBER ABOUT A- FAMILY IN NEW
MEXICO WHEN THEY WERE FACING-
OUTAGES. IN AND THEY HAD A CHEVY
BOLT DATE THE- THE- HEAD OF
HOUSEHOLD YOU KNOW FIGURED OUT
WHAT TO BUY AT A HARDWARE STORE
TO CONVERT BOTH HIS CHARGER AT
HOME AND HIS VEHICLE TO DO THIS.
NOW HE HAD THAT CAP CAPABILITY I
DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS BACKGROUND
WAS WET THREE WAS AN ENGINEER OR
SOMETHING BUT YOU KNOW NOT ALL
OF US DO. BUT CERTAINLY THE
POINT BEING IS THAT THERE ARE
CHARGERS NOW AVAILABLE ON THE
MARKET THAT HAVE THERE SO IT'S
NOT LIKE- THIS IS GOING TO BE
UNAVAILABLE TO ANYONE. WITHOUT
THE MANDATE AND THERE IS STILL
THAT CAPACITY FOR THE DO IT
YOURSELFER THOUGH I CERTAINLY
DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT ON
EVERYBODY AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT
THE CDC WILL COME BACK TO US
SOON. WITH SOME SOME INFORMATION
THAT WOULD MAKE US FEEL MORE
CONFIDENT ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT
STEP SHOULD BE AROUND THE
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK
YOU THANK YOU FOR THAT ARE
WITHIN MY NEXT QUESTION THE
CHARITY ANSWERED WAS THAT ABOUT
THAT THE SAME THING IF YOU
ALREADY HAVE A CHARGING STATION
AT YOUR- HOME CAN THAT BE EASILY
CONVERTED OBVIOUSLY IF YOU CAN
IT YOURSELF. IT'S CAN BE EASILY.
OKAY THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I CENTER MEANT. THANK YOU
CENTERS GATHERING IS FORWARD-
LOOK AT THE BACKDROP OF THIS
OBVIOUSLY IS THE CLIMATE CRISIS
THAT WE'RE FACING AND THE EQUITY
IN INEQUITIES THAT ARE GOING TO
BE COMING WITH THAT ARE ARE
MASSIVE WE'RE ALREADY SEEING
THOSE COMING SO. I JUST WANT TO
MAKE THAT. POINT IT JUST
INITIALLY BUT- LOOK- AS AS
POLICY MAKERS. AS WE STRIVE TO
GET OUR ECONOMY TO ZERO
EMISSIONS. WE KNOW THAT THE
LIGHTS HAVE TO TURN ON- AND WE
SAW THE CHALLENGES LAST YEAR
WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
APELO. AND WE HAVE THAT
CHALLENGE OF HOW DO WE GET TO
ZERO EMISSIONS AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE HOW DO WE DE
CARBONIZED. OUT WITHOUT.
IMPACTING OUR CONSTITUENTS IN A
NEGATIVE WAY AND SO WHEN I FIRST
HEARD ABOUT THIS BI DIRECTIONAL
CHARGING THIS VEHICLES TO GREAT
IDEA. I THOUGHT THIS IS A GAME
CHANGER BECAUSE- STORAGE IS THE
CLEAR PROBLEM WE'RE FACING GOING
FORWARD WE KNOW THAT WE'RE
PRETTY SOON WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH
RENEWABLES ONLINE. WHERE WE CAN
MEET OUR DEMANDS ARE ENERGY
DEMANDS AS A STATE. AND THIS
COULD BE A MASSIVE GAME CHANGER
JUST BECAUSE IF WE CAN HAVE
MATCHING THESE BATTERIES COMING
ONLINE UP PERIODS WHERE WE NEED
THEM- THAT THAT WILL PROVIDE THE
STORES THAT WE NEED IN AND THIS
REALLY COULD. BE THE SILVER BALL
AT THAT THAT WE NEED. TO GET TO
ZERO EMISSIONS QUICKLY- AND I
THINK THAT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT
TO THINK ABOUT CALIFORNIA NOT
JUST IN THE CONTEXT AROUND
STATE- BUT GLOBALLY- WHEN
GOVERNOR NEWSOM ANNOUNCED THAT
CAR WAS GOING TO ENACT A RULE OR
HAD ENACTED A RULE. GETTING OUR
VEHICLE FLEET TO ZERO EMISSIONS
BY THE YEAR TWENTY THIRTY FIVE
HUNDRED PERCENT. ODD THAT MAY OR
MAY NOT BE ACHIEVABLE BUT IT
EIGHT YOU KNOW AND IF WE COULD
DEBATE AT THE OUTSIDE IS THAT
GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT. WHAT WE SAW
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT WAS ALL
THE MAJOR AUTOMAKERS ANNOUNCING
THAT THEY WOULD HAVE. SOMETHING
LIKE A 100% ZERO FLEAS BY TWENTY
THIRTY FIVE OR TWENTY FORTY-
CALIFORNIA AS THE FOURTH LARGEST
ECONOMY THE WORLD SETS THE
MARKET. ON YOU SEE A LOT OF
REACTION TO THAT. AND THE
TECHNOLOGY IS THERE RIGHT NOW
FOR THESE V. TWO G. CHARGERS.
BUT I GUESS THE POINT I'D MAKE
IS AS IF CALIFORNIA PASSES THIS
LAW. I THINK WE CAN EXPECT TO
SEE RAT RAPID ADOPTION. RAPID
INNOVATION AND AS. THAT HAPPENS
WE'LL SEE A LOWER COST. BECAUSE
WE THOUGHT WERE. A HALF WITH
ELECT CARS RIGHT NOW. DEMAND
THAT THE NEW SONG. I THINK. I
HAS BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGING IT
ALSO COST TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS. AND THAT PRICES
CONTINUE TO DROP FOR ELECTRIC
VEHICLES. AS MORE AND MORE
SUPPLIES COME ONLINE IT'S A
CONDOM USE OF SCALE HAVE HAVE
GROWN. ALSO I JUST WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
CALIFORNIA. SETTING THE TREND
FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THE
REST OF THE WORLD. I THINK THIS
IS A BRILLIANT IDEA I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE- THINK ABOUT
HOW WE'RE GONNA GET NOT ONLY OUR
STATE BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I IT IS YOUR MISSIONS AND THIS
IS GONNA BE A CRITICAL COMPONENT
OF THAT. GOING FORWARD SO I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL TODAY
AND I ASKED TO BE A CO AUTHOR AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU
SENATOR ASHLEY. THANK YOU I
DON'T NEED TO BELABOR THE POINT
BECAUSE SO MUCH HAS ALREADY BEEN
SAID AND I KNOW WE'RE AT THE END
OF A- LONG COMMITTEE HEARING
BUT- AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING
LIKE A FRESHMAN I JUST WANT TO
ASK. IS THIS GOING TO
TRANSPORTATION NEXT OKAY. SO
THEN- MY QUESTION TO THE AUTHORS
JUST AND I THINK I KNOW THE
ANSWER ABOUT ONCE WHEN I HEAR IT
OUT LOUD. I KNOW YOU'VE TAKEN
SOME AMENDMENTS HERE I KNOW YOU
YOU'RE GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD
ON THIS BILL TRANSPORTATION
GIVES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. FOR
SOME OF THE FOLKS ESPECIALLY IN
THE ON THE AUTO SIDE OF THE DEAL
TO CONTINUE TALKING TO YOU.
RIGHT I MEAN YOU'LL- YOU'LL KEEP
TALKING TO- AND FIGURE OUT. THE
BEST PATHWAY FORWARD FOR
EVERYBODY. YES I GET THANK YOU
I'LL BE SUPPORTING. THANK YOU
CENTER SARTOR. HI I THINK THIS-
TECHNOLOGY. HAS GREAT PROMISE
AND I THINK IT'S BEING SHOWN BY.
THE SOME OF THE MANUFACTURERS.
INCORPORATING IT INTO THEIR
PRODUCT. AND CONSUMERS TO BUY
THAT PRODUCT- THE BUT FOR ME
WHAT CONCERNS ME IS- KIND OF
FORCING PEOPLE. TO DO SOMETHING
THAT THEY MAY NOT WANT OR FOR.
OUR GOOD SENATOR FROM WERE SET
OUT POINTED OUT. SOME OF THE
INEQUITIES IN CREATING VEHICLES
THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE AND IT'S
NOT JUST THE PURCHASE PART OF
IT- AS YOU KNOW A CARS TODAY ARE
NOT LIKE THE CARS OF TWENTY FIVE
THIRTY YEARS AGO. WHERE I COULD
POP THE HOOD IN AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S GOING ON TO CARBURETOR- A
PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY GOES BAD ON
YOUR CARD IT'S FIVE THOUSAND
DOLLARS TO GET IT FIXED. AND
THESE ARE THE CONCERNS I HAVE
WHEN WE TRY TO OUT RACE OR
FORCED TECHNOLOGY ON PEOPLE.
THAT MIGHT NOT WANT THAT
TECHNOLOGY FOR THEMSELVES. AND I
THINK THE MARKET WILL DRIVE THIS
PROCESS I THINK AS MORE AND MORE
CONSUMERS DECIDE THAT THIS IS
SOMETHING FOR THEM- THEN THE
DEMAND WILL GO UP AND MORE
PEOPLE WILL PRODUCE. AND IF ALL
PEOPLE ARE ONLY BUYING NISSAN'S
BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS OFFERING
THIS WIDE IMAGINE EVERYBODY ELSE
IS GOING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE
AND DO IT. SO I JUST DON'T LIKE
THE MANDATE PART OF THIS WHERE
WE'RE MANDATING PEOPLE TO DO
THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT QUITE
READY FOR- I UNDERSTAND THAT WE
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CLIMATE
AND ALL OF THAT. BUT AGAIN THE
MORE WE MANDATE AND PUSH THESE
MANDATES ON PEOPLE I THINK. THE
LESS COOPERATION YOU'RE GOING TO
GET IN TRYING TO MOVE TODAY'S
THESE CLEANER TECHNOLOGIES. AND
SO THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE
BILL IS IT'S AWESOME TECHNOLOGY
I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR PEOPLE
WHO WANT IT- BUT FORCING ON
PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE ME FORCING
YOU TO GO OUT TOMORROW AND BY
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR AIR
CONDITIONING UNIT. BECAUSE YOU
DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING
RIGHT NOW AND I THINK YOU
SHOULD. SELL OUT. SO ANYWAY
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS I. AM NOT
GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY BUT WILL BE INTERESTED TO
SEE HOW THE MARKET REACTS TO
THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE
FUTURE THANK YOU. SOONER
GONZALEZ THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
AND I. WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
SENATOR SKINNER NO THIS IS GOING
ON TO TRANSPORTATION SO WILL
DEAL WITH ALL THE EQUITY
CONCERNS I KNOW IT'S BEEN. SORT
OF PART OF THE AMENDMENTS HERE
TOO BUT- I THINK IT OFFERS A LOT
OF PROMISE AND OPPORTUNITY AND I
THINK THE WORK IS. BASICALLY
BEING DONE NOW ON YOUR
SOLIDIFYING THIS- BY ENSURING
THAT YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT LABOR AT
THE TABLE ENVIRONMENTAL. GROUPS
AT THE TABLE ARE AUTOMAKERS AT
THE TABLE AS WELL AND FOLKS ARE
ALREADY DOING THIS NISSAN LUCID
I BELIEVE FORWARD- QUITE A FEW
AUTOMAKERS THAT ARE ALREADY I'M
DOING THIS WORK BUT- I'D LIKE
TO. ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE
PILOT PROGRAM- OUTCOMES AT SOME
CERTAIN POINT WHICH I KNOW
YOU'LL PROBABLY BE FOLLOWING. UP
TO SEE HOW THEY'RE WORKING IN
TERMS OF THE ENERGY- PUSH BACK
AND WHAT YOU KNOW FOLKS IN COULD
POTENTIALLY. REAP FROM THESE
BENEFITS OF BIDIRECTIONAL
CHARGING SO WITH THAT THANK YOU
KNOW SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY. ALL
RIGHTS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
MANAGER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.
OCCUR SOONER DALLAS JUST REAL
QUICK YOU MADE MY POINT FOR
NEEDING SOME MORE MINUTES WHEN
YOU SAID SOMEBODY HOOKED UP
THEIR CAR TO THEIR HOUSE. AND
THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS BY THE WAY
FOR THE LINEMAN THAT'S OUT THERE
WORKING. WHO THAT IT CHARGES THE
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT'S WHY
WE ARE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT PEOPLE
HOOKING UP HOME GENERATORS
WITHOUT- GETTING THE RIGHT
QUALIFICATIONS TO DO IT SO THAT
AND SOLAR'S SOLAR PANELS HAVE.
THE ABILITY TO PUT. ELECTRICITY
ON THE GRID. BUT THEY ALSO WHEN
THE GRADES DOWN AND SOME IS
WORKING ON IT THERE'D THEY SHOT
OFF AND THEY DON'T ALLOW SO.
TWEAK A FEW MINUTES AND THEN I
THINK WE CAN GET THERE ON THIS
BILL I THINK IT'S A GOOD I THINK
IT'S A GREAT IDEA JUST NEEDS A
LITTLE BIT MORE WORK SO. YOU
MADE THE POINT FOR IS ONE OF SIX
SHARE THAT WITH YOU. ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION FOR THE BIG. I DON'T
. I TOO WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE
AGAIN I THINK IT'S BEEN STATED
THAT. THE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATIONS
THERE I TO HAVE SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT INSTRUCTORS TEEN-
RATE RAISED AS IT RELATES. THE
TIGHT WINDOW TIME FRAME FOR-
AUTOMATIC AND MANUFACTURES BUT
I'M ALSO AS- SENATOR DALLI
STATED. AS A FORMER UTILITY
EMPLOYEE THE BIGGEST FEAR POINT
LINEMEN A LINE WHEN WE'RE OUT
THERE WORKING WERE HOMES WITH
GENERATORS. HOOKED UP ON THE
KNOWN TO WORKING GROUP'S. AND I
THINK MORE MORE CARS ONLINE LIKE
THAT WILL PUT THEM AT GREATER
RISK LIKE THAT'S ALL. WE NEED TO
WORK THAT OUT I KNOW I'M
SURPRISED A UTILITY COMPANY NOT
HERE- VOICING SOME CONCERNS
BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS. A CONCERN
WE ARE CRUISING COMMUNITY WHEN
YOU HAD OUTAGE OR SOMETHING OR
REPAIRS WHO HAS A GENERATOR AND-
YOU KNOW. BECAUSE THIS IS IN
ESSENCE TURNING A CAR INTO A
GENERATOR THAT WILL CREATE A
GREAT BACKSEAT ON THE LINE. SO I
WILL ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE ON
THOSE- AT THIS POINT. THANKS SO
MUCH M. WE M. FIRST I'D SAY THAT
NISSAN IS THE PROOF THAT THIS IS
NOT. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO ADD
GREAT COST TO THE VEHICLE.
NISSAN IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE
EVN HAS ALWAYS HAD THIS
CAPABILITY. AND IT'S BEEN
DROPPING IN PRICE. I'M
SECONDARILY ON THIS FEAR THAT
THE YOU KNOW THERE WON'T BE VERY
MANY DO IT YOURSELFERS BUT STILL
ON THE SPHERE. WHAT IS THE-
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS
BUYING THE BATTERY PACKS THE
BATTERY PACK THAT YOU INSTALL IS
NO DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU
UTILIZED THE VEHICLE IN IT WE
DON'T HAVE I. B. W. COMING AND
SAYING THEY'RE AFRAID. THAT IN
MAYBE I SHOULDN'T MAKE THAT
SPECIFIC BUT RATHER WE DO NOT
HAVE. LINEMEN COMING IN SAYING
THAT DUE TO THOSE BATTERY PACKS
THERE NOW FREIGHT THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO YOU KNOW BE
ELECTROCUTED SO. THIS THAT FEAR.
I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT-
ATTENTION WE OVERSTATED. AND
WHAT I THINK THIS IS. IN TERMS
OF EQUITY WHY WOULD WE BE IN A
SITUATION WHERE WE ARE
PROMOTING. AND I'M NOT SAYING
THIS THIS STATE IS YET BEEN IN
THE POSITION OF PROMOTING CITIES
BATTERY PACKS BUT THAT YOU WOULD
HAVE BEEN EASY. PLUS SOLAR PLUS
A BATTERY PACK IN IT IT'S
OVERKILL IN ITS EXPENSIVE SO
FOREIGN TO EQUITY. THEN YOU
COULD HAVE YOUR SINGLE VEHICLE
THAT'S ANY B. THAT ALLOWS YOU
THEN AT THE TIMES WHEN.
ELECTRICITY RATES ARE THE
HIGHEST. TO BE ABLE TO SWITCH
OVER TO THAT TO POWER FOR A FEW
HOURS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY
EVENTUALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO
MAKE SURE. THAT WE AREN'T
FLOODED. THE MARKET ISN'T
FLOODED WITH VEHICLES THAT DON'T
HAVE THIS CAPACITY. AND SO WITH
THAT I VERY MUCH ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE AS WITH THE BILL WITH THE
AMENDMENTS AND OF WOULD HAVE BE
HAPPY DAD MR MENISCAL AUTHOR.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE AND I WILL
ROUTE SIDE IS A CO AUTHOR OF. WE
I WOULD DO PASSED TO BE AMENDED
IN COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION.
AND I'LL JUST QUICKLY STATE WHAT
THOSE ARE DELETE THE BI
DIRECTIONAL MANDATE FOR EVEY
CHARGERS AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR
THE C. C. TO DEVELOP.
INTEROPERABLE REQUIREMENTS. IN
OPERABILITY I SHOULD SAY
REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED SEC TO
SUBMIT A REPORT TO THE GOVERNOR
AND LEGISLATURE BY JANUARY-
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE TO PROVIDE.
RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING
FOLLOWING COSTS AND BENEFITS
ASSOCIATED WITH MANDATING BI
DIRECTIONAL CAPABILITY ON
CHARGERS MECHANISM FOR ENSURING
INTER OPERABILITY BETWEEN BI
DIRECTIONAL CARS AND CHARGERS
AND RESOURCES NEEDED. FROM THE
ELECTRICITY SECTOR- TO
FACILITATE- VEHICLE TO BUILDING
AND- VEHICLE TO GRID. OPERATIONS
IS THAT CORRECT YES GREAT YES I
THINK WE HAVE A MOTION WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR MAN. WITH MATH
OKAY- PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON S.
B. TWO. THREE THREE. TO BE
AMENDED AND TRANSPORTATION.
BRADFORD BRADFORD I'D DALY.
ASHBY SB I. BECKER. BECKER I
CABALLERO. DODD DIED I DRAGO DRY
SO I EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ
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MCGUIRE AYE MAN AYE MAN AYE
NEWMAN. RUBIO SEYARTO SEYARTO NO
SKINNER HI SKINNER AYE STERN
WILK. TEN TO ONE. THAT MEASURE
HAS TEN VOTES YOUR SUCCESSFULLY
OUT WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON NOW
LET'S OPEN THE ROLE FOR. ANY
MEMBERS WHO STILL NEED TO ADD
ON- WE'LL START WITH- FILE ITEM
TO. SB SIX OH FIVE PEDIA DO YOU
PASS TO BE AMENDED IN NATURAL
RESOURCES AND WATCH HER CURRENT
VOTE THIRTEEN ZERO. DURAZO.
DURAZO II GROWTH. OKAY WILK.
FOURTEEN TEAM. SEARED. GROVE NOT
VOTING TO AYE. OKAY SO I DON'T
KNOW. FIFTEEN- D. FIFTEEN
FIFTEEN ZERO FIFTEEN THAT
MEASURES OUT. NOW MOVING ON TO
VOLUMES DURING. SB SIX SIX THREE
ARCHULETA DO PASS TO BE AMENDED
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CURRENT
VOTE FIFTEEN ZERO. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO. SIXTEEN
SIXTEEN WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES TO SEE IF
CENTER RUBIO WILL COME BACK AND
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THE MEMBERS NEED AT ALL- THE
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THREE THREE. DO HAS TO BE
AMENDED IN TRANSPORTATION
CURRENT VOTE. TEN ONE ZERO I
YEAR II. NEWMAN RUBIO. OKAY SO
ELEVEN ONE. LEVEL ONE NUMBER ON
FILE ITEM SIX. SB THREE OF OUT
THAT'S THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AT
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO. K.
SIXTEEN ZERO MEASURE SIXTEEN
VOTES NOW FOLLOWING HIM SEVEN.
SB FIVE SEVEN TWO STERN. THE
PAST AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE.
TWELVE THREE. MCGUIRE MCGUIRE
AYE. DALY VOTE CHANGE SHOULD
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THEN REVEALED COMING BACK- OKAY
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RIGHT. RIGHT NOW. SIXTEEN TWO
ZERO SIXTEEN. SIXTEEN ZERO
SIXTEEN ZERO MEASURES ARE. WE'RE
NOT WAITING FOR RUBIO AND. THE
ONE HOLE THAT OPENED FOR RUBIO I
WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR CENTER
RUBIO HERE SHE'S COMING BACK. I
TO ME ARE MOVING ON FILE ITEM
EIGHT SB SEVEN NINE FIVE STERN
CURRENT VOTE. ELEVEN TO THREE.
CABALLERO CAREER- AYE MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO.
SIERRA SIERRA TOWBOAT CHANGE
FROM I TO KNOW. WITH TWELVE TO
FOUR- VOTES TWELVE BEFORE WE
LEAVE THE- PHOTO OP- ROLE OPEN
FOR A FEW MINUTES FOR ABSENT
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NINE. SB FOUR TEN AYE SENATOR
BAKER TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE
SIXTEEN ZERO MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
SEVENTEEN ZERO WITHOUT. THE
BILL'S OUT WE'RE CLOSE ROLE NOW
ON NOW MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
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VOTE FIVE FIFTEEN ZERO DORADO.
TERRAZZO I REQUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
SEVENTEEN ZERO ITSELF SEVEN TWO
ZERO AM MEASURES OUT CHAU WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ANOTHER
FIVE MINUTES FOR SENATOR. RUBIO
TO ADD ON AND I WANT TO THANK
ALL THE MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE
IN THE TODAY'S HEARING THAT
CONCLUDES OUR HEARING. AND WE'LL
JUST LIBERAL OPEN FOR A FEW MORE
MINUTES YEAH. THAT CONCLUDES OUR
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YEAH YEAH. CONVEYED.
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THREE SB SIX SIX THREE ARCHULETA
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THREE THREE- GROWTH NEWMAN RUBIO
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THIRTEEN TO FOUR VOTE COUNTS
THIRTEEN FOR THAT MEASURES OUT.
IN THAT. ALL RIGHT MEMBERS AND
AUDIENCE THAT CONCLUDES OUR
HEARING FOR TODAY I WANT TO
THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR
PARTICIPATION- THE SIM SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY UTILITIES
ARE UTILITIES ARE SHE SAID. THE
COMMUNICATIONS IS NOW ADJOURNED
THANK YOU.