THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY WILL COME TO ORDER OF
WE WOULD WELCOME MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AS WELL AS AUTHORS TO
A JOIN US IN ROOM A. TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. WELL PERFECT OKAY WE'VE
JUST BEEN JOIN BUT AUTHOR ALL
RIGHT ALMOST AGO DO THE SCRIPT
HERE SO- GOOD AFTERNOON THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC IN PERSON INVITE
PARTICIPATION ALSO VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8216 THE ACCESS CODE IS
SIX TWO ONE SEVEN ONE SIX ONE
WE'RE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS IN THE- STREET BUILDING
I ASK ALL MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE
BE PRESENT SO INSTEAD WHICH ARE
QUORUM I WANT TO WELCOME SENATE
MCGUIRE TO OUR COMMITTED DATE-
TEMPER PLACEMENT FOR SENATOR
CAFIERO. BEFORE WE HEAR THE
PRESENTATION ON OF ANY BILL AND
I SEE CENTER BRADFORD'S HERE
STANDING AT THE PODIUM- I'M
GOING TO. WE HAVE WE'RE WE'RE
STILL LACKING A FEW MEMBERS TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM SO WE'RE
GOING TO BEGIN. AS A SUB
COMMITTEE- I HAVE TWO OF. JOINT
ONE THE OTHER COMMITTEES FOR A
MOMENT AND THEN I'LL RETURN A
LITTLE WHILE MEANTIME WOULD TURN
OVER TO- VICE CHAIR SENATOR
SCOTT WILK SENATOR WILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR OUR
FIRST ITEM NUMBER TWO AB SEVEN
HUNDRED BY MISTER BRADFORD
HAVING TO DO WITH EMPLOYMENT
DISCRIMINATION. GUARDING
CANNABIS USE AND I DON'T HAVE A
WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. I
DON'T I. IS IT BUT DO PASSED TO
. DO PASSES AMENDED TO LABOR
SOME ASSUMING YOU'RE A TAKE THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS BUT WITH THAT
PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN YES I DO TAKE TO
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND THIS
BILL SIMPLY- STRENGTHENS
EXISTING LAW AS IT PROTECTS
EMPLOYEES. AND BRIDGE
PERSPECTIVE APPLICANTS WENT UP-
SEEKING EMPLOYMENT THAT THEY
WON'T BE DISCRIMINATED FOR PAST
A CANNABIS USE LAST YEAR THE
LEGISLATURE ENACTED AB TWENTY
ONE EIGHTY EIGHT WHICH MADE IT
UNLAWFUL FOR AN EMPLOYER TO
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A PERSON.
THAT THEY'RE HIRING TERMINATION
OR IN A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT
BECAUSE OF A PERSON'S OFF THE
JOB- CANNABIS USAGE THIS LAW
EXEMPTED EMPLOYEES. I MEAN
PLAYERS I SHOULD SAY WHO REQUIRE
FEDERAL SECURITY CLEARANCES OR
WHOSE CANNABIS USE USAGE MAY
OTHERWISE BE A ISSUE UNDER
FEDERAL LAW OR HIRING PRACTICES
DESPITE THE BILL'S CLEAR
PROHIBITIONS ON THIS TYPE OF
DISCRIMINATION CERTAIN IMPORTS
HAVE CONTINUED TO ASK ABOUT
APPLICANTS PASSED CANNABIS USE.
SOME EMPLOYERS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE EMPLOYEES ZERO TOLERANCE
POLICIES ON CANNABIS USE AND
CONTINUE TO US APPLICANTS
WHETHER THEY- HAVE USED CANNABIS
RECREATIONALLY PRIOR TO
EMPLOYMENT THIS PRACTICE NOT
ONLY DISSUADES OTHERWISE
SUITABLE K. CANDIDATES FROM
APPLYING FOR THESE POSITIONS BUT
ALSO LEADS TO SITUATIONS IN
WHICH INDIVIDUALS RESPOND. THIS
HONESTLY NOT JUST TO GET THE
JOB. OR THEY ARE PREVENTED FROM
MOVING FURTHER IN THE
APPLICATION PROCESS SIMPLY FOR
USING CANNABIS AND ALL WE GO AND
RESPONSIBLE CAPACITY ACCORDING
TO THE LAWS OF THE STATE. SB
SEVEN HUNDRED IT JUST MAKES IT
ARE UNLAWFUL FOR EMPLOYERS TO
REQUEST INFORMATION FROM THE
APPLICANT RELATING TO THEIR
PRIOR USE OF CANNABIS THIS BILL.
PRESERVES THE PROVISIONS OF ADD
AB TWENTY ONE EIGHTY EIGHT SUCH
AS EXEMPTIONS FOR EMPLOYEES
SUBJECT TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS
OR IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY
IT DOES NOTHING TO CHANGE
EXISTING LAW PERTAINING TO
TESTING OF CANNABIS AND CANNABIS
USE. ON THE JOB ENSURING
EMPLOYERS CAN MAINTAIN A DRUG
FREE WORKS SITE BUT WORK PLACE I
SHOULD STAND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU SIR
BRADFORD YOU HAVE ANY- WHEN THIS
ISN'T SUPPORT I DON'T KNOW IF WE
ARE THE PRIMARY WITNESSES
REPORTED THAT WE HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
SB SEVEN HUNDRED. C. NINE DO WE
HAVE ANY THE WANTED TESTIFIED
YEAH ME TOO FASHION. C. NINE WE
WILL GO TO THE OPPOSITION. IN
THE PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB SEVEN HUNDRED.
I GUESS NO HE'S JUST MOVING OKAY
GREAT THANKS THAT TIMING WAS
PERFECT- ON ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION ME TOO SEEING NONE
LET'S MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCING I SUPPOSE I
SHOULD READ THE SCRIPTS. WHAT
OKAY I'M NOT GONNA DO THE
SCRIPTED THANK YOU. THAT SO AT
THIS POINT WE WILL TAKE
TESTIMONY. BOTH PRO AND CON
REGARDING SB SEVEN HUNDRED
MODERATOR YOU THERE. YES QUEUE
UP THE LINE PLEASE. THANK YOU
ARE CARE SHOULD MISTER CHAIR AND
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT AT
THIS TIME IT IS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. AND WE'LL GO
TO LINE EIGHTY. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. AND ONLINE NUMBER EIGHTY
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. WHAT
BENEFITTED ON POLICY DIRECTOR
WITH MUSIC WHEN YOU CONNECT YOU
KNOW ORGANIZING PROJECT IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOUR THREE FIVE
THANK YOU. ON THE NEXT TO GO TO
LINE EIGHTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI THIS IS- CHRISTOPHER
GRAMS OF SPYING ON BEHALF THE
INNOVATIVE ONE FIVE ON THE
SITUATION I FATHER THAT JUST
ABOUT ON THE BLOG BILL I
APOLOGIZE BUT I HAVE TO FIND IN
SUPPORT OF SENATOR THIRTY THREE.
WE WILL YEAH WE'LL GET THAT TO
SHORT. APOLOGIES MY BAD NO
PROBLEM. AND THE NEXT REPLY
NUMBER SIXTY THREE. HI THIS IS A
MONTHLY WITH THE UCLA LATINO
POLICY AND POLITICS INSTITUTE
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF SB FOUR
THREE FIVE THANK YOU. OKAY THIS
THREE STRIKES NOW. AND WE HAVE
AN ONLINE THANK YOU THAT'S GOOD
THANK YOU THANK YOU MR MODERATOR
WILL BE BACK TO YOU SHORTLY.
RIGHT NOW WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS
COMMENTS CONCERNS WITH A BILL
APPROPRIATE. HOW YOU HAVE A
QUORUM OKAY WELL LET'S BILL WILL
. HI I THOUGHT WE NEEDED SIX.
WE'RE SHORT ONE STILL. IN HOPE
NOW WE HAVE A QUORUM- YOUR
AUTHOR. BUT I'VE NEVER READ ANY
OF YOUR BOOKS. OKAY MAYBE CALL
IT MAY YOU CLOSE. UP THANK YOU
MISSED YOUR MEMBERS THIS IS A
STRAIGHTFORWARD MEASURE WE JUST
WANT TO. AVELLO INDIVIDUALS WHO
SEEK EMPLOYMENT NOT TO BE
DISQUALIFIED FOR WHAT IS NOW
LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA THERE HAVE
BEEN EMPLOYEES IN THIS BUILDING
WE HAVE COME TO ME OVER THE LAST
THREE YEARS IN TEARS BECAUSE
THEY WERE MEDICALLY PRESCRIBED.
CANNABIS AND WE'RE FEARFUL THAT
THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR JOB FOR
DOING SOMETHING AT HOME OFF
HOURS FOR THEIR ANXIETY AND
EVERYTHING ELSE WE'VE EVEN HAD
VETERAN TO. HAVE STATED HOW
IMPORTANT THIS IS FOR THEM TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS BUT AT THE
SAME TIME AUSSIE GAINFUL
EMPLOYMENT SO THIS IS ALL THIS
BILL DOES JUST- ALLEVIATES TO
EMPLOYER. OBLIGATION TO ASK THAT
QUESTION- THEY CAN HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION BUT IT SHOULD BE A
DISQUALIFYING FACTOR FOR FUTURE
EMPLOYMENT SO I RESPECT THAT
STRUGGLE. THANK YOU I THANK YOU
CENTER BRADFORD AND WE HAVE A
MOTION SO WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE-
WHEN APPROPRIATE. UP NEXT TO BE
GOING FILE ORDER I SEE THAT
CENTER CORTESE'S HERE SO HE HAS
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE WHICH IS
SB SIXTY NINE AND FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOUR. SB. SIX FOUR TWO.
SO YOU MAY PROCEED WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY I THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS. APPRECIATE
YOU ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT SB
SIXTY NINE TO YOU TODAY. SB
SIXTY NINE AS TRANSPARENCY TO
THE SEQUEL NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
CURRENTLY STATE AGENCIES. ARE
REQUIRED TO POST NOTICES OF
DETERMINATION NOTICES OF
EXEMPTION TO STAY CLEARING
HOUSE. WEBSITE LOCAL PUBLIC
AGENCIES ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO
POST THESE NOTICES ON THE COUNTY
CLERK'S WEBSITE. WHEN THE
NOTICES ONLY POSTED ON THE
COUNTY CLERK'S WEBSITE PEOPLE
TRACKING THE PROJECT. AT THE
STATE LEVEL OR OTHERWISE CAN
MISS IT. SB SIXTY NINE WOULD
SIMPLY REQUIRE ALL PUBLIC
AGENCIES TO PROCES NOTICES TO
THE STATE CLEARING HOUSE WEBSITE
SO THEY CAN ALL BE FOUND IN ONE
PLACE. THESE NOTICES MUST BE
POSTED WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF
ACTION ON A PROJECT. UNDER
CURRENT LAW PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE
ALSO REQUIRED TO SEND A NOTICE
OF DETERMINATION OR NOTICE OF
EXEMPTION BY MAIL. US POST
OFFICE MAIL TO ANY MEMBER OF THE
PUBLIC REQUEST ONE UNFORTUNATELY
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THE SIX
DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS IN SAN
JOSE HELLO THAT THERE'S NO
REMEDY FOR VIOLATION OF THE
STATUTE. WITH STAKEHOLDERS
AREN'T NOTIFIED EVEN THOUGH THE
REQUESTED NOTIFICATION. OF WHICH
ARE LEGALLY ENTITLED TO THIS CAN
RESULT IN THE LIMITATIONS PERIOD
AS INSTRUCTIONAL IMITATIONS
ENDING BEFORE STAKEHOLDER HAS A
CHANCE TO BRING AN ACTION. THE
SPECIALTY PERIOD FOR SIX PROJECT
. BEGINS EITHER WHEN A NOTICE
TRIMMING NATION OR EXEMPTION IS
POSTED OR IF THERE'S NO FORMAL
DECISION. WHEN A PROJECTS
SUBSEQUENTLY BEGINS. THIS BILL
ADDRESSES THE COURT'S DECISION.
IT DOES SO BY IMPROVING THE
SEQUIN NOTIFICATION PROCESS
UNDER SB SIXTY NINE. THE STATUTE
OF LIMITATION WOULD EITHER BEGIN
WHEN THE AGENCY POSTS THE NOTICE
TO THE STATE. CLEARINGHOUSE
WEBSITE OR WHEN THE DIRECTLY
SENATE ANYONE WHO'S REQUESTED IT
WHICHEVER HAPPENS FIRST.
ADDITIONALLY IF THE NOTICES
AMENDED CORRECTED OR REVISE THE
STATUE LIMITATIONS RESETS.
AGENCIES ARE ALSO AUTHORIZED BUT
NOT REQUIRED TO SEND NOTICES BY
EMAIL IF THE STAKEHOLDER
REQUESTS IN PLACE OF PHYSICAL
MAIL. THESE CHANGES STRIKE A
BALANCE BETWEEN IMPROVING
NOTIFICATION. GIVING MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC ADEQUATE TIME
CHALLENGE PROJECTS IN MAKING
SURE THAT THE LIMITATIONS PERIOD
IS NOT EXTENDED INDEFINITELY. SO
THAT PROJECTS CAN STILL MOVE
FORWARD. MY OFFICE HAS BEEN IN
COMMUNICATION WITH ORGANIZATIONS
THAT HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT
THE BILL. ALL ON THE PROCESS
HERE. WHEN WE CONTINUE THESE
DISCUSSIONS TO FIND SOLUTIONS.
THE BILL SPONSORED BY THE
CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL LABORS
HAS SUPPORT FROM TEN
ORGANIZATIONS SO FAR INCLUDING-
THE CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
DISTRICT COUNCIL FARMWORKERS
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY.
AND THE CENTER ON RACE POVERTY
IN THE ENVIRONMENT. WITH US
TESTIFIED TODAY- ARE RICHARD
JURY REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
STATE COUNCIL BELIEVERS. IN
GRESHAM OROZCO REPRESENTING THE
CENTRE REYES POVERTY IN THE
ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND- AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I
WILL RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE. UNDER THE COMMITTEE RULES-
TWO PRIMARY- SPEAKERS TWO
MINUTES EACH. THANK YOU THANK
YOU ON A ROLL COMMITTEE MEMBERS
MY NAME IS RICHARD DRURY FOR THE
CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL LABORS
THE SPONSOR OF SB SIXTY NINE AND
WE- DRIVE OUT. THE LABORS
PARTICIPATE IN SEEK REVIEW TO
ENSURE THAT THEIR WORKERS ARE
PROTECTED FROM WORKPLACE HAZARDS
SUCH AS SOIL CONTAMINATION.
POLLUTION FROM CONSTRUCTION
EQUIPMENT AND OTHER HAZARDS WE
MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES ARE
MITIGATED AND THEN THE PROJECT
CAN PROCEED AND GO FORWARD. ARE
CURRENTLY SEEK WHAT REQUIRES
NOTICE TO BE PROVIDED TO ANYONE
WHO REQUESTS IT BY US MAIL. IT'S
A VERY ANTIQUATED PROCESS-
UNFORTUNATELY IT A CASE OUT OF
THE SIX DISTRICT HELD THAT EVEN
IF SOMEONE PROPERLY REQUEST THAT
NOTICE AND THE AGENCY FAILS TO
PROVIDE IT. THERE'S NO
CONSEQUENCES SB SIXTY NINE A
REQUIRES THAT NOTICE BE SAT IN
THE THIRTY DAY STATURE
LIMITATIONS DOES NOT BEGIN TO
RUN UNTIL THE NOTICE IS SENT.
HOWEVER IT ALSO MODERNIZES THE
NOTICE PROCEDURES SO THAT THE
AGENCY CAN PROVIDE NOTICE SIMPLY
BY POSTING IT ON THE SEQUEL
CLEARINGHOUSE FOR SENDING IT BY
THE V. ELECTRONIC MAIL. THIS
WILL ACTUALLY REDUCE COSTS FOR
THE AGENCY BUT WON'T HAVE TO
SEND PROTECT POSSIBLY HUNDREDS
OF MAILED PAPER NOTICES. AND
RISK THE POSSIBILITY THAT
SOMEONE MAY CLAIM THAT THEY
NEVER RECEIVED IT IN THE MAIL-
SO WILL INCREASE CERTAINTY
REDUCE COSTS FOR THE AGENCIES
AREN'T AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE
ALSO THAT THIS DOES NOTHING TO
MAKE IT. MORE DIFFICULT OR LESS
DIFFICULT TO BRING CIVIL
LAWSUITS IT ONLY ALLOWS PEOPLE
TO KNOW THAT IT IS A DECISION
HAS BEEN MADE IT DOESN'T CHANGE
LEGAL STANDARDS. WE BELIEVE IT
WILL ACTUALLY REDUCE COSTS AND
INCREASE CERTAINTY. FOR THE
AGENCIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME
IS CHRIS HOW DOES GO WITH THE
CENTER ON RACE POVERTY ANY
ENVIRONMENT THE ORGANIZATION
THAT UPLIFTS ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE IN UNDERREPRESENTED
COMMUNITIES IN THE SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY. OUR COMMUNITY IS IN KERN
COUNTY. ARE USUALLY LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND MANY OF
THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE TARGETED
YOU HOUSE HAZARDOUS LAND USES
SUCH AS EXPENSIVE WAREHOUSES-
HOW DOES WASTE SITES AS WELL AS
OIL AND GAS FACILITIES. AND EVEN
THOUGH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE
VIGILANT IN KEEPING TRACK OF
WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S NOT POSSIBLE
TO KEEP TRACK OF EVERY SINGLE
ONE. AND THIS IS PARTLY DUE TO
THE INADEQUATE NOTICE
REQUIREMENTS IN SYKORA. SEE
WHERE IS. THESE FIRST LINE OF
DEFENSE TO COMBAT HARMFUL AND
USES IT BUT IT'S OFTEN DIFFICULT
TO EVEN TRY WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE
THE NOTICE TO BE AWARE AND
ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT INPUT
THAT'S NEEDED. IN THE CASE THAT
WAS MENTIONED ORGANISES YOUR
NICKEL ME THAT DEBBIE SO VERSUS
SAN JOSE RESIDENTS WERE NOT
PROVIDED THAT NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION FOR PROPOSED
WAREHOUSE AND EVEN AFTER THEY
TIMELY REQUESTED IT AND DESPITE
HAVING MANY VALID LEGAL CLAIMS
THAT THEY COULD HAVE REYES. THE
COURT WAS UNABLE TO ISSUE A
REMEDY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE
STATUE OF LIMITATIONS IS RUN.
AND THIS IS DUE TO THIS GAP AND
SYKORA. SB SIXTY NINE WOULD
REMEDY THAT BY PROVIDING THAT
THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS DOES
NOT BEGIN TO RUN UNTIL THAT
NOTICE OF DETERMINATION HAS BEEN
SENT TO THIS DOESN'T CHANGE ANY
LEGAL STANDARDS IT JUST PROVIDES
THAT. BUFFER FOR WHEN IT'S TIME
THE REQUEST IS MADE ON THAT
NOTICE OF DETERMINATION NOW SUCH
HER ORGANIZATION URGES YOU TO
VOTE I ON SB SIXTY NINE TO BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE. THESE
COMMUNITIES IS MY MIDDLE JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES WITH THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BE AWARE AND TO PROVIDE INPUT
ON DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THEIR
DAY TO DAY LIVES. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT. NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBER SARAH FLOCKS
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS MATT CRIMMINS HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
PRINCE OF OPERATING ENGINEERS WE
ARE IN SUPPORT. FAMOUS CHAIR
KEEP DOWN HALF THE DISTRICTS
COUNCIL IRONWORKERS THE STATE
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. RIGHT
SENIOR WHAT FURTHER SPEAKERS
THAT'S GOOD OPPOSITION YSR ANY.
LEAD WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THE TERM MEMBERS NICK ROBBIE
HAPPILY OF CALIFORNIA CITIES NOT
HERE OPPOSITION HOW WE DO
EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH THE
AUTHOR I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR HIS STAFF AND SPONSORS.
FOR TREMENDOUS PROGRESS IN
MAKING- TO MAKE THROUGH ON THE
PROMISES THAT WERE MODERNIZING
THIS PROCESS AND WE CAN SAVE
COSTS I SAW LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR AND STAFF FOR THE
TREMENDOUS WORK THANK YOU. SO IS
THIS OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED OR
WHAT'S WHERE ARE YOU HAVEN'T
TAKEN A POSITION YET OR WILL
CONDITION UNTIL WE CAN TRY TO
FIND THE NEXT HER RISING ON
WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DISCUSSION
WITH THE AUTHOR HIS. HIS ROGERS
RIGHT- SAID THAT HOPEFULLY WE
GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE THE
PARTY FOR OKAY GREAT THANK YOU.
JOHN KENNEDY WITH RC RC AND MUCH
THE SAME POSITION APPRECIATE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
AND WITH SPONSORS TRYING TO
PERFECT HOW THIS IS GOING TO
WORK IN IMPLEMENTATION ENSURE IT
DOESN'T PROVIDE OTHER LOOPHOLES
FOR PEOPLE TO BRING ACTIONS.
THANK YOU OKAY GREAT THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER- ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION IN THE IN THE
ROOM. SEEING NONE. LET'S
TRANSITION OVER TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. WE WILL
TAKE BOTH IN SUPPORT IN IN IN
OPPOSITION. TO S. B. SIXTY NINE.
MODERATOR THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AND ONCE AGAIN IF YOU HAVE A
COMMENT IS ONE THEN ZERO ON YOUR
PHONE. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
NUMBER NINETY TWO YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. OKAY AND THEY HAVE TAKEN
THEIR LINE OUT OF Q. WE HAVE NO
OTHER LINES IN QUEUE AT THIS
TIME. THANK YOU MODERATOR AT
THIS POINT WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS COMMENTS
CONCERNS. SEEING NONE THE
RECOMMENDATION IS DUE PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR CORTESE
YOU MAY CLOSE THANK YOU AGAIN MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS INTO THE
COMMITTEE STAFF HERE- AND
EVERYONE WHO HAS WORKED VERY.
CLOSELY WITH US- INTO CONTINUES
TO. A IF I CAN SAY SO NEGOTIATE
FOR PERFECTION HERE BUT- IT WILL
KEEP WORKING WITH EVERYONE- IN
THE MEANTIME I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. OKAY WE
HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR ALSO
CENTER AL IS NOW WOULD DECIDED
TO JOIN US SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE
ENOUGH FOR- QUORUM SO LET'S GO
AHEAD AND TAKE THE ROLE. I'M
BURKE. WILK PRESIDENT WILL
PRESENT ALAN. ALLEN PRESENT
ASHBY. ASHBY HERE TO RUSSELL
RUSSELL HERE WHERE'D YOU WHERE'D
HEAR MCGUIRE. MEN MEN HERE NEW
LOW STERN WINNER. OVER HERE-
BURKE HERE YEAH OF COURSE. GREAT
WE HAVE OF COURSE LET'S GO AHEAD
FINISH OFF THE BILL AGAIN THE
RECOMMENDATION IS DUE PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SO LET'S CALL THE
ROLL- YES CENTER ALLEN I'M I WAS
REALLY PRETTY WELL AND IN
TRANSPORTATION I COULD CAN I
JUST DO WE HEARD THIS BILL AND
IN EQ- I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE
HAD A- SENSE OF WHERE THINGS.
HAVE I KNOW YOU THERE'S DIALOGUE
DURING THE Q. WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CITIES. ON THIS BILL AND I JUST
WANTED I WANT TO GET AN UPDATE
FROM THE AUTHOR I DO APOLOGIZE
BUT IS THERE ANY NEWS ON THAT-
CONVERSATIONAL THIS BILL YES
CENTER I REMEMBER THE MOST.
DISCUSSION ON THE OTHER BILL
WHICHEVER PRESENTED YET YES SIX
FORTY TO AT ONE WAS IN THE
EIGHTIES RIGHT OKAY YEAH THIS IS
THIS IS THE LEAGUE YEAH I MEAN
WE'VE- THE ONLY CONCERNS THAT
WE'VE HEARD- THUS FAR ARE. YOU
KNOW IT IS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
ONE OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WE
RECEIVED FROM. OF VALLEY. WATER
COALITION VALUE ACQUISITION AND-
ESSENTIALLY ENCOURAGING US TO-
KEEP WORKING IN GOOD FAITH- IN I
WOULD DARE TO SAY THERE WERE
SOME GRATITUDE EXPRESSED FOR THE
EFFORTS MADE SO FAR TO WORK WITH
PEOPLE. THAT WERE DOING AS YOU
KNOW OF FROM HAVING HEARD THE
BILL WITH- PERHAPS SOME
IMPORTANT NUANCES IN CLARIFYING
LANGUAGE AT BEST AT THIS POINT
IN TERMS OF. MAKING SURE PEOPLE
ARE CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE IN
COMMON OPEN IN THE STATURE
LIMITATIONS I THINK OF A DRESS
AT WITH A HUNDRED EIGHTY D.
MAXIMUM- YEAH. YOU KNOW I'M THE
BILL'S. GETTING IN OFFICE SOME
CONCERN- ABOUT. ABOUT AS CLOSE
IS GO TO GET- BUT- WE'LL KEEP
LISTENING BY LISTENING. TODAY
WILL KEEP WORKING WITH PEOPLE. I
DON'T KNOW FIRST. I SAID WANTS
TO AVOID ANY- BUT I DON'T ONCE
AGAIN I DO APOLOGIZE I KNOW. YOU
WINDING UP. DELETED SPEAK OKAY
OKAY. OKAY I. MATT WITH A LOB
SPONSORS NOT THEIR STAFF AND
WILL MAKE GOOD ON THE PROMISE TO
YOU THE- PROVIDE YOU SOME
CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE TO YOUR CARE
IN THIS CHAIR- IN THAT. MISSION
THANK YOU EVERYBODY I PURSUE
YOUR GOALS. THANK SO SIT AROUND
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON FILE
ITEM ONE OR FILE ITEM TO WHILE
YOU WERE OUT WE HANDLE THAT NOW
NO SIR I APPRECIATE IT COULD.
YOU KNOW WITHOUT QUESTION CAN WE
CALL THE ROLL GOOD. OUR I KNOW-
WELL YEAH I GUESS YOU'RE A STEP
A SO CENTER RAZA. I CANNOT ABOUT
ONE TO YEAH. WHERE YOU WERE IN
THE ROOM THAT DIDN'T THAT. OKAY
. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE
SB SIXTY NINE THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS NUMBER. NUMBER I
WILL CRY WILK AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I
ASHLEY. ASHLEY I'D RUSSELL
RUSSELL I LAYERED. LAYERED I'M-
MEN. MAN I ANY LOW STERN. WIENER
YOU HAVE. SEVEN ZERO WITH
MEMBERS I THINK SEVEN ZERO.
THANK YOU. WE GO TO THE NEXT I'M
SURE LET ME LET ME ON TO A
COUPLE HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS HERE
FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU SENATOR
WORK FOR CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE
WHILE I WAS GONE- SOMEONE IN THE
HALLWAY MENTION THAT THINGS SEEM
TO GO MORE SMOOTHLY WITH YOUR
CHAIR. JUST JUST SAYING AND I
THINK WAS A STAFF MEMBER OF MINE
THAT SAID IT BUT MANY EVENTS-
SO. WE ALSO WE HAVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR LET ME JUST READ THE
ITEMS ARE ON CONSENT CALENDAR
AND SOME OF THE GROUND RULES FOR
TESTIMONY TODAY- THE ITEMS ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE AS
FOLLOWS FILE NUMBER THIRTEEN SB
SEVEN NINETY BY CENTER PADILLA
FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHTEEN S. B.
FOUR SIXTY TWO BY SENATOR WAHA
PARLIAMENT OR NINETEEN S. B. FOR
SIXTY THREE BY SENATOR WILL HOP.
BOMB NUMBER TWENTY SB FIVE
SEVENTY EIGHT BY SENATOR S. B.
WITH AMENDMENTS PHYLUM NUMBER
TWENTY THREE S. B. FIVE TWO TWO
BY CENTER YELLOW WITH AMENDMENTS
FILE NUMBER TWENTY FIVE S. B.
FOUR FOUR SIX. BY SENATOR WILK
AND FINALLY FILE NUMBER TWENTY
SEVEN SP SIX FIVE TWO BY CENTER-
BERG WITH AMENDMENTS- MOVED. UP
CENTER MISLED. MOVES THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. SECT IF YOU'D CALL THE
ROLL. UMBERG HI AMBERG WILL COME
. WILK I. ALLEN I ASHLEY. ASHLEY
I DRAW. RUSS I LAYER. LAYERED I
AM. MEN MEN I KNEW LOW. STERN
WIENER SEVEN ZERO ONE BECAUSE
SEVEN. WILL PUT THAT ON CALL-
ALL RIGHT- FOR TODAY- IN FOR.
SUBSEQUENT COMMITTEE HEARINGS.
OF EACH BILL WILL BE ALLOWED TO
HAVE TWO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. EACH
WITNESS WILL BE ACCORDED TO
FORTY TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK AFTER
THAT SPORT IN OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. AFTER THAT SPORT
OPPOSITION WITNESSES HAVE
SPOKEN- AND WE'VE HEARD FROM ALL
THE ME TOOS AND THE HEARING WILL
TURN TO PHONE TESTIMONY. WE'LL
HEAR FROM BOTH SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION PHONE TESTIMONY AT
THE SAME TIME THEY'LL BE A FIFTY
MINUTE LIMIT ON PHONE TESTIMONY.
THOSE ON THE PHONE IN THOSE
PROVIDING ME TO A TESTIMONY HERE
IN THE COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM.
OF PLEASE WRITE US YOUR NAME
YOUR FILIATION IN YOUR-
POSITION- IF YOU WISH TO ADD TO-
WHATEVER IT IS YOU SAY HERE IN
THE COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM- FEEL
FREE TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE
COMMITTEE USING ONE OF THE
MESSAGE METHODS DESCRIBED ON THE
JUDICIARY. COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE
ALL RIGHT SO CENTER CORTESE-
WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU ON YOUR NEXT
ITEM. WHICH IS- ITEM NUMBER FOUR
S. B. SIX FOUR TWO. RIGHT THANK
YOU IF I COULD JUST SAY BEFORE I
STARTED THIS IS THE THIS-
APPOINT A PRIVILEGE- THE
MOISTURE ISN'T AS NICE TO
MEMBERS WHO ARE ENTERING THE
HEARING ROOM. AS CHAIR USUALLY
AS I REALIZE IT'S A VERY HIGH
BAR BUT THIS ONE IT WELL THANK
YOU FOR NOTING THAT AND I CAN
ATTEST TO THAT. ALL RIGHT WELL
THANK IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A
CONSENT ITEM SO. ALL RIGHT RIGHT
IT IS CENTER CORTESE MISTER
CHAIR AND- IN MEMBERS THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT SB
SIX FORTY TO DO TODAY- THE BILL
GIVES COUNTY COUNCIL'S THE SAME
AUTHORITY TO PROSECUTE HAZARDOUS
MATERIALS VIOLATIONS. AS CITY
ATTORNEY'S. DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS TO PROSECUTE THESE
VIOLATIONS CAN HELP TO PROTECT
OUR COMMUNITIES. PARTICULARLY
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES THE
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR YOUR
HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITIES. IN
NINETEEN NINETY THREE. THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED AB NINETEEN
THIRTY FOUR TO AUGMENT CIVIL
ENFORCEMENT OF HAZARDOUS WASTE
VIOLATIONS. THE BILL AT AT THAT
TIME AMENDED THE HAZARDOUS WASTE
CONTROL LAW TO AUTHORIZE CAL.
TOOLS TO PROSECUTE THESE
VIOLATIONS IN ORDER TO PROMOTE A
LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR THE
REGULATED COMMUNITY. HOWEVER THE
LEGISLATURE DID NOT MAKE
CONFORMING CHANGES TO SEVERAL
RELATED STATUTES. THOSE STATUTES
INCLUDE RELATED ENFORCEMENT
PROVISIONS- AS WELL AS OTHER
CLOSELY RELATED LAWS WHICH WOULD
INCLUDE. THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS
BUSINESS PLAN PROGRAM. THE
UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK PROGRAM
THE ABOVE GROUND PETROLEUM
STORAGE ACT PROGRAM THE MEDICAL
WASTE PROGRAM. SO THIS
INCOMPLETE AUTHORITY LIMITS
COUNTY COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO
EFFECTIVELY PROSECUTE POLLUTE
POLLUTERS FOR EXAMPLE. THE ABOVE
GROUND PETROLEUM STORAGE OUR
PROGRAM REQUIRES CERTAIN
PETROLEUM STORAGE FACILITIES
DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT THE SPILL
PREVENTION CONTROL AND
COUNTERMEASURE SPLINT. A
VIOLATION OF THESE REQUIREMENTS
COULD LEAD TO AN OIL SPILL.
WHICH CAN CAUSE RESPIRATORY
DAMAGE LIVER DAMAGE CANCEROUS
REPRODUCTIVE DAMAGE AMONG OTHER
ISSUES. SB SIX FORTY TO HELP
COMMUNITIES PROSECUTE VIOLATIONS
LIKE THESE. HELPING TO MORE
COMPLETELY ENFORCED CALIFORNIA'S
HAZARDOUS WASTE LAWS. YOU GIVE
CERTIFIED UNIT UNIFIED PROGRAM
AGENCIES. COOPER IS. THE CHOICE
TO REFER THESE CASES TO A WIDER
RANGE OF PROSECUTORS THAT'S WHY
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
ADMINISTRATORS WHICH REPRESENTS
THE COOPERS AND LOCAL
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS
ACROSS THE STATE. SUPPORT THE
BILL. AS THEY NOTE IN THEIR
SUPPORT LETTER. IN A QUOTE
BECAUSE OF THE HIGH WORKLOAD OF
THE DA'S MINI COOPERS REFER ONLY
THE MULTI JURISDICTIONAL MORE
SERIOUS VIOLATIONS TO THE DA'S.
RISKING NO ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON
CERTAIN VIOLATIONS IN QUOTE.
THEY STATE THAT SB SIX FORTY TWO
WE'LL TAKE SOME LOAD OFF THE
DA'S AND PROVIDE A MORE
EXPEDITIOUS AVENUE. FOR FORSMAN
OF HAZARDOUS WASTE VIOLATIONS
AND THAT TOO IS A DIRECT QUOTE.
FINALLY THEY KNOW THAT THE
AUTHORITY PROVIDED UNDER SB SIX
FORTY TWO IS PURELY OPTIONAL
AGAIN AND I QUOTE NEITHER
MANDATING LOCALS TO USER COUNTY
COUNCILS TO PURSUE CIVIL
ENFORCEMENT. NOR LIMITING THE
CURRENT DA AUTHORITY TO DO SO
THE BILL SPONSORED BY THE COUNTY
SANTA KERR RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA IN
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES. THE BILL ALSO HAS
THE SUPPORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS WHO CAN SPEAK TO
THE CONSEQUENCES. OF UNDER
FORSMAN OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS
LAWS. WITH US TO TESTIFIED TODAY
WE HAVE SOME NEW WHEELS WITH THE
COUNTY SANTA CLARA. AND JOHN
KENNEDY WITH THE ROLE OF WHOSE
RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTATIVE TODAY
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FORGERS.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THANK
YOU TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE
STAFF THEIR WORK ON THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS TONY WELLS I'M A
DEPUTY COUNTY COUNSEL WITH THE
COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA ADVISE THE
COUNTY SANTA CLARA'S DEPARTMENT
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. ARE
COUNTIES PLEASE SUPPORT SB SIX
FORTY TWO AND ARE GRATEFUL TO
SENATOR CORTEZ IN A STAFFER
BRING IT FORWARD. I'D LIKE TO
TAKE A MOMENT TO RESPOND TO THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION CPA'S UNFOUNDED
ATTACKS AND COUNTY COUNCILS. THE
LEGISLATURE IS VESTED CIVIL
PROSECUTORIAL AUTHORITY AND
COUNTY COUNCILS IN NUMEROUS
STATUTES. INCLUDING THE UNFAIR
COMPETITION LAW THE FALSE
ADVERTISING LAW PUBLIC NUISANCE
ACT NARCOTICS ABATEMENT ACT
PROVISIONS GOVERNING AND
LICENSED CANNABIS CULTIVATION.
AND HAZARDOUS WASTE CONTROL
WHAT. THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT HAS STATED THE RIGOROUS
ETHICAL DUTIES IMPOSED ON A
CRIMINAL PROSECUTOR ALSO APPLY
TO GOVERNMENT LAWYERS GENERALLY.
WHEN BRING CIVIL ENFORCEMENT
CASES COUNTY COUNCILS ARE PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS TO SEND IT TO THIS
SAME ETHICAL DUTIES IMPOSED ON
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. AS ANALYSIS
NOTES THE LEGISLATURE ENDED THE
ENVIRONMENTAL CIRCUIT
PROSECUTORS PROGRAM AFTER CDA
WAS FOUND OF MISAPPROPRIATED
FUNDS AND USE IT FOR LOBBYING
PURPOSES. THE PASSAGE QUOTED ON
PAGES SEVENTY EIGHT NOTES OF
THOSE FUNDS WERE CRITICAL FOR
RURAL COUNTIES. WHERE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S LACK THE RESOURCES TO
TAKE ON LARGE CORPORATIONS WITH
HUGE LEGAL TEAMS. THIS BILL
GIVES SUCH COUNTIES OTHER
ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS. CTA ALSO
POINTS OUT TO THE FACT THAT
COUNTY COUNCILS HAVE
OCCASIONALLY USED OUTSIDE
COUNSELS ON A CONTINGENCY FEE
BASIS. BUT THE CALIFORNIA
SUPREME COURT HAS UPHELD THIS
PRACTICE SEVEN TWO APPROPRIATE
SUPERVISION. THE NINTH CIRCUIT
DID THE SAME. FOR THE TRINITY
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY. BUT IT
ANY EVENT SO PRACTICE ARE L.
WITH. AND FAR FIELD OF THIS
PROPOSAL WHICH SIMPLY SEEKS TO
PUT COUNTY COUNCILS ON THE SAME
FOOTING AS ALL FOUR HUNDRED
EIGHTY TWO CITY ATTORNEY'S.
FINALLY CDA CLAIMS THE BILL
WOULD ALLOW THE WORST VIOLATORS
TO ESCAPE CRIMINAL PUNISHMENT.
THIS IS FALLS. UNDER THE CURRENT
FORSMAN SCHEME THE COUPLE LACKS
WHICH COUPLET PROSECUTOR WILL
WORK WITHIN A GIVEN CASE. THE
WORST VIOLATIONS BY DEFINITION
WILL BE REFERRED TO THE DA
BECAUSE THEY ARE CRIMES. THIS
BILL GIVES COOPER AS ANOTHER
OPTION FOR CASES THAT DO NOT
RISE TO THE LEVEL OR WHERE THE
DA DOES LACK THE RESOURCES.
HAVING ADDED FLEXIBILITY AS
WHETHER COOPER'S DO SUPPORT THIS
BILL. WE URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THANK YOU RT THANK YOU
OTHER WITNESSES SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON JOHN KENNEDY WITH RC
RC YOU REPRESENT FORTY WORLD
COUNTIES POPULATIONS BETWEEN
ELEVEN HUNDRED IN ALPINE COUNTY
TO ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
AND SONOMA COUNTY. WE'RE PLEASED
TO SPONSOR THIS BILL BIG
SURPRISE US WITH SOME ADDITIONAL
FLEXIBILITY- AND ANOTHER TOOL IN
OUR TOOLBOX TO ADDRESS SAFETY
RELATED VIOLATIONS ABOVE GROUND
STORAGE TANK UNDERGROUND STORAGE
TANK. AND HUSBANDS HAZARDOUS
MATERIALS BUSINESS PLAN LAWS
THESE VIOLATIONS COULD POSE VERY
SERIOUS PROBLEMS FOR FIRST
RESPONDERS AND PARTICULAR WE'RE
NOT SEEKING TO NECESSARILY
ADDRESS ANY PREVIOUS- PROBLEMS
BUT JUST PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
CAPACITY GOING FORWARD. THIS
FLEXIBILITY IS EVEN MORE
IMPORTANT IN WORLD JURISDICTIONS
WITH. LIMITED RESOURCES NINETEEN
OF OUR COUNTIES HAVE FEWER THAN
SEVENTY THOUSAND RESIDENTS. SO
IF AN ISSUE DOESN'T RISE TO THE
LEVEL OF THE AG BRING AN ACTION
AND THE DA DOESN'T HAVE THE
CAPACITY. THIS BILL MERELY
AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO
OUT AND FILE A CIVIL ACTION ON
THOSE CLAIMS. AGAIN IMPORTANT IN
RURAL AREAS WHERE THERE MAY BE
OTHER CRIMINAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL
LAWS TO TAKE UP THE DA'S
ATTENTION RIGHTFULLY SO. SO
WEIRD YOUR SUPPORT OF SB SIX
FORTY TWO TODAY TO IMPROVE LOCAL
FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE US
ANOTHER TOOL THE TOOL WE HOPE WE
DON'T HAVE TO USE- BUT ONE THAT
COULD BE AN INCREDIBLY.
IMPORTANT IF THE NEED ARISES
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT-
THOSE HERE IN THE- COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM IN SUPPORT YOU TO
PRODUCE A MICROPHONE. HELLO
EIGHT A WELDER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF
THIS BILL THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON ELIZABETH ESPINOSA
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
URBAN COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA A
COALITION OF FOURTEEN COUNTIES.
WITH THE HIGHEST POPULATION IN
STATE THANK YOU IN SUPPORT ALL
RIGHT ANYONE ELSE SEE NO ONE
ELSE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE OF
LET'S NOW TURN TO THE OPPOSITION
. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS
KIM STONE STONE ADVOCACY ON
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION THAT
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO IS
HERE IN THE PREVIOUS COMMITTEE
HAS A SICK. CHILD AND SO SENDS
HIS REGRETS. THAT CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
AS AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THE BILL AND- ARE
REQUESTING AMENDMENTS TO LIMIT
ENFORCEMENT TO COUNTIES OF SEVEN
HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
POPULATION OR- GREATER AND AYE
AYE. PART OF THE FOR FEAR IS
THAT- WE HAVEN'T BEEN ADVISED.
US THAT THERE IS INSUFFICIENT
ENVIRONMENTAL PROSECUTION I
BELIEVE OUR OFFICES ASKED FOR
YOU KNOW AN EXAMPLE OR- YOU KNOW
MORE OF- OF FAILING TO GET TO GO
AFTER ENVIRONMENTAL FIRE FIGHT
LEADERS AND WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED.
THAT AND THE OTHER FEAR IS THAT
POTENTIAL- PROSECUTION- BY
COUNTY COUNCIL MIGHT RESULT IN
SORT OF A FINANCIAL OR BLASTER
SETTLEMENT WHERE AS MORE
AGGRESSIVE CRIMINAL LIABILITY
MIGHT BE WARRANTED AND SO. IF
THE COMMITTEE OR AUTHOR IS
DISINCLINED TO TAKE THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE SUGGEST IN
OUR LETTER AT THE VERY LEAST IS
LIKE A PLAN B. BACKUP THING AND
I WOULD. REQUEST OR SUGGEST AT
LEAST A NOTICE- TO THE DA'S
OFFICE SO THAT THEY COULD LIKE
BE AWARE OF IT AND IF THERE'S AN
ONGOING INVESTIGATION OR
SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON- THAT
MIGHT BE- THAT ANOTHER OPTION
FOR THOSE REASONS WE- MUST
REMAIN RESPECTFULLY. OPPOSED
ALREADY THANK YOU. OTHER IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NO ONE ELSE
PER MY PHONE ANYWAY WISHES TO.
UP PROVIDE ME TO TESTIMONY
OPPOSITION SEEING KNOWN APPROACH
IN MY FROM LET'S NOT TURN THE
PHONE LINES. MODERATOR IF YOU
WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE WHO ARE
BOTH IN SUPPORT AND IN
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX FOUR TWO.
IF MISTER CHAIR AND IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO COMMENT ONCE AGAIN IT IS
ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO. AND WE'LL
START WITH LINE NUMBER NINETY
TWO YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO
THIS IS SANDRA NINETY GUESTS
WITH CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS IN SUPPORT OF THE FELT.
AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER
SIXTY. MEMBERS OF GIACOMO I'M
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH ADMINISTRATIVE. REPRESENT
BOTH THE COOPERS YOU HEARD FROM
THE ALTAR ATTY ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH. DEPARTMENTS YOU'RE VERY
MUCH IN SUPPORT NO PREJUDICE
AGAINST D. A. THANK YOU THANK
YOU. AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE
NUMBER FORTY THREE. YEAH THIS IS
LAURIE MARK STONE DEPUTY COUNTY
COUNSEL FOR THE COUNTY BOROUGH
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK
YOU AND WE HAVE NO BURGER HAVE
NOT ALIGNED IN Q. ALL RIGHT
BRING IT BACK COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS COMMENTS SURROUND.
WELL THIS THAT THE SECRETARY HAD
A FUN TIME IN THE QUEUE LAST
WEEK- AND SO THIS THIS BILL WAS
ALSO THERE AND WE HAD A GOOD
DISCUSSION WITH THE DA'S. I'M I
GUESS I WOULD I KNOW I'M I'M I'M
REALLY GOOD AT SUPPORTING LAST
ME GOOD SO HAPPY SUPPORT NOW
BECAUSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S
ABOUT. CREATING MORE MECHANISMS
FOR ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT WE KNOW
IS A VERY SERIOUS- SET OF ISSUES
RELATING TO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
AND THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE OUT
THERE NOW I WILL SAY I WAS
INTRIGUED BY THE COMMENT THAT
WAS JUST. TALKED ABOUT HOW SHE
SHE KNEW OF NO INCIDENT WHERE-
AND- YOU KNOW WHERE WHERE WHERE
CERTAIN TYPES OF VIOLATIONS WERE
GONE I AND- WERE THERE THERE
WERE THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST OR
OR BUT YOU KNOW IT. CAN BE
DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR THE DÍAS
TO GO AFTER VIOLATORS THAT
WASN'T FOLLOWED UP ON. IT CAN WE
AT LEFT SOME CLARITY ON THAT.
AND YOU KNOW. OBVIOUSLY ON ITS
FACE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THE
MORE THE MERRIER WHEN IT COMES
TO. TO AND FORTUNATELY I KNOW
EVERYONE'S BAND WITH HIS LIMITED
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER
SENSE OF. THE NEED FOR THE
PROGRAM- AND WHAT AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON THE DA
SIDE THAT THAT THAT. THAT THAT
THE CESA TATE'S. ARE STEPPING IN
AND GIVING THESE INCREASED
POWERS TO. THE COUNTY COUNCIL
FOLKS- THAT THAT'S MY KIND OF
CORE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW IF
MISTER COMPOSER. I DON'T FROM
THE- I HAVE SOME MONEY WITNESSES
ARE YOU HUMAN SENATE WOULD LIKE
TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. RT
CENTER CORTESE ORANGE LINE THERE
CERTAINLY CERTAINLY BEEN YOU
KNOW SOME DOCUMENT EXAMPLES.
BILLION IN THE MEDIA FOR EXAMPLE
TWENTY TWENTY ONE SAN FRANCISCO
CHRONICLE. OF ARTICLE- AND TO A
I THINK THIS REFERENCE IN THE
ANALYSIS ON- YEAH WE- I THINK
OUR OUR MOTIVATION. FOR MOVING
FORWARD WITH THIS BILL WAS. WAS
SOMETHING COMPLETELY SEPARATE
AND APART FROM GET INTO ANY KIND
OF A- COMPETITIVE YOU KNOW SORT
OF FOOD FIGHT IF YOU DON'T MIND
ME PUT IT THAT WAY ABOUT. YOU
KNOW- HOW MUCH MORE CAPACITY IS
NEEDED OR NOT- YOU KNOW WHETHER
SOMEBODY'S DOING THEIR JOB OR
NOT WHETHER SOMEBODY'S LEAVING.
A WATER FLOATING FRUIT ON. ON
THE GROUND- BUT THERE'S
CERTAINLY BEEN SOME OF THOSE
CASES I THINK THE ARTICLE NOTED
THAT TIME- IN MADERA COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY- SOLELY
MARINO- AT THAT TIME CHARGER
TRUCK FILTERING COMPANY WITH
MISHANDLING HAZARDOUS WASTE.
WHICH WAS TRYING TO USE OUTSIDE
COUNSEL- DID NOT HAVE FUNDS. TO
REPLACE THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHEN
THEY QUIT. IN IT WAS A KIND OF
SITUATIONS WHERE. PERHAPS IF YOU
HAD UP COUNTY COUNCIL. OF
AVAILABLE YOU TO STEP IN TO TAKE
OVER THE CASE. IT HAPPENED SO WE
JUST DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION
RIGHT NOW THANK YOU KNOW SO- I'M
NOT SURE IF THE WHOLE ISSUE
ISN'T. SORT OF A RED HERRING IN
IN THE FIRST PLACE I THINK WHAT
WE WANT FROM A PUBLIC POLICY
STANDPOINT. IS YOU KNOW
VIGOROUS. OF PROSECUTION OF
THESE KINDS OF CLAIMS MIGHT WORK
SOMETHING- YOU KNOW MORE
NEFARIOUS HAPPENS IN- WE HAVE
COUNTY COUNCILS WHO HAVE THE
CAPACITY WHO IN SOME CASES LIKE
SANTA CLARA COUNTY HAVE BEEN- IN
THEIR CASE DEEMED IN THE NUMBER
ONE. A PUBLIC- LEGAL OFFICE IN
IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY WHY HAVE
THEM STANDING BY AND NOT
INACTION. IF THEY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO- I MEAN
WHAT IS WILL JUST YOU KNOW. I
WANT TO BE VERY MUCH IN GOOD
FAITH A MIXTURE. IF I CAN JUST
ANSWER A QUESTION THAT IS SORT
OF STILL PENDING FROM. UP FROM
THE PREVIOUS HEARING IN A I KNOW
YOU WERE INTERESTED IN SEEN AS
TRY TO RESOLVE THAT AND WANT YOU
TO KNOW WE HAVE IN GOOD FAITH
TRY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE I
THINK INTERESTING ISSUE. JUST
EVEN FROM A LAWYER STANDPOINT OF
IS THERE SOME SIGN OF MAYBE COME
CURRENT NOTICE SAID THEY SHOULD
OCCUR. IT SEEMS LIKE A SUPER
SIMPLE ELEGANT SOLUTION IF
YOU'RE JUST DEALING WITH. DA'S
OFFICE. COUNTY COUNTY COUNSEL'S
OFFICE NOTIFYING THE DA RIGHT
THE END OF THE ALSO THE ISSUE
BECAME YOU GOT FOUR HUNDRED
EIGHTY TWO CITY ATTORNEYS OUT
THERE WHO. ALSO HAVE. THIS SORT
OF CODE JURISDICTION. DO WE
MELBA SUDDEN SAY THAT THERE'S A
NOTICE REQUIREMENT THERE THAT
NEVER EXISTED BEFORE- BUT BUT
WE'RE WORKING ON IT. WHAT WHAT
DO WE DON'T WE STILL THINK
THAT'S- THE SORT OF A PRACTICAL
IMPLEMENTATION ISSUE THAT THAT'S
PROBABLY IMPORTANT JUST TO MAKE
SURE THAT. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T
GET UNINTENDED. OVER A GREAT I
APPRECIATE THAT AND I'D
CERTAINLY TEST YOU ON ON
IMPORTANT AT THREE CENTER AND- I
BUT I THINK YOU FOLKS ARE
EXCITED TO. OKAY GIVE US AN
ANSWER THAT I MENTIONED HEARING
FOR THEIR ANSWERS WILL BE BETTER
THE MONARCH. SO. IT'S ALL VERY
HELPFUL. MY THINK I THINK HE'S
AT THINKING CENTER COURT AT THE
END I. THAT THE- IT IT THE
EXAMPLE CASES ARE COVERED. I
CENTER CORTEZ HE BUT TO GET TO
THE S. OF. OVER AS YOU NOTED
THAT THE CITY ATTORNEYS ALREADY
HAVE THIS OVERLAPPING
JURISDICTION AND- GENERALLY- IN
MY EXPERIENCE I WORKED AS AN
ATTORNEY FOR THE DEPARTMENT
TOXIC SUBSTANCES CONTROL FOR
OVER TEN YEARS BEFORE COMING TO
THE COUNTY. THERE'S A LOT OF
INTERNAL DISCUSSION AND
COORDINATION WHEN- CASES ARE
REFERRED TO AT THE PARTICULAR
PROSECUTOR THAT THEY DETERMINE
IS BEST. SITUATED TO HANDLE THE
CASE- THAT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT
IN THIS- IN THE SITUATION- WE
COORDINATE THE COUNTY COUNSEL'S
OFFICE COORDINATES REGULARLY
WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC
NUISANCE CASES THAT ALSO END UP
BEING CRIMINAL CASES AS WELL. SO
THIS IS NOT NEW TO US TO
COORDINATE WITH OUR COLLEAGUES
AT THE DA'S OFFICE- I WOULDN'T
THINK THAT THAT WOULD
NECESSARILY- GET IN THE WAY OF
ANY CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. ALL
DA'S- WOULD STILL HAVE THE
EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY TO BRING ALL
THE CRIMINAL CASES WHILE THE
COUNTY COUNCIL'S WOULD BE JUST
GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO BRING
CIVIL. YEAH I'M- EMILY GETS THE
ISSUE BECOMES IS THERE IS THERE
SOME SORT OF. PREEMPTION I GUESS
ON THE CIVIL SIDE BECAUSE OF
COURSE THAT HE IS CONSIDERING
CIVIL CASES TO BUT- HI. YEAH
YEAH. THANK YOU CENTER- SO FIRST
STEP THE ISSUE ABOUT PREEMPTION
SO AS I SAID IT ALSO APPLIES AND
THIS GLORIA FLIES TO EQUALITY
FOR TO FORTY TWO CITY ATTORNEYS
IN THE STATE. AND IT THIS IS
NEVER SEEMED TO PRESENT A
CONCERN- SECONDLY THE
ENFORCEMENT IS NOT INITIATED BY
THE PUBLICATION C. ITSELF IS
ACTUALLY INITIATED BY OUR FROM
THE- CERTIFIED UNIFIED PROGRAM
AGENCY THE COOPER. OR FROM PTSD
SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE IN
THE POSITION TO MAKE THEIR FOR
ALL THE PUBLIC PROSECUTOR TO
BRING THE CASE- THIRD OF ALL
OTHERS- OFTEN- FOR CERTAIN CASES
THERE ARE PARALLEL PROCEEDINGS.
WHERE THERE WILL BE A CIVIL
ACTION THAT WILL SOMETIMES BE
FILED FIRST AND THAT WILL
REQUEST TEMPORARY INJUNCTIVE
RELIEF OR PRELIMINARY
INJUNCTION- WHILE THE DA'S MAYBE
CONSIDERING STILL INVESTIGATING
THE MATTER. I'M WAS THE DA WILL
ADD TO MAKE A DECISION IN CHARGE
OF CRIME- AT THAT POINT IT WOULD
STAY THE CIVIL CASE UNTIL THE
RESOLUTION OF THE CRIMINAL CASE
IN THOSE TYPES OF CASES OFTEN.
HAPPEN QUITE FREQUENTLY AND
HAZARDOUS WASTE CONTACT. GOOD
AFTERNOON DAVID COMPOST WITH THE
COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA AND
RESPECTFULLY SENATOR THE WAY
THAT I WOULD EXPLAIN IT IS THAT
IN MANY RESPECTS. IN OF CIVIL
AND CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS ARE
DIFFERENT AND THE EVIDENTIARY
REQUIREMENTS FOR ONE THING- IS A
PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE THERE IS A
DIFFERENT THRESHOLD BUT HAS TO
BE MET. WHICH IS WHY YOU KNOW
BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER YOU KNOW
EVIDENCE REPRESSED HOLD A
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION HAS.
OFTENTIMES YOU KNOW IT'S EASIER
TO BEGIN WITH A CIVIL
PROCEEDING. AGAIN THIS IS REALLY
NOT ABOUT TRYING TO SAY T. H.
ARE NOT DOING THEIR WORK THEY'RE
NOT DOING THEIR JOB. WE KNOW
THAT THEY ARE BUT THEY ARE THEY
HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES AND THIS
SIMPLY COMPLIMENTS THAT RENT
IT'S NOT ABOUT SAYING THAT
THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO THE CONTRARY WE
BELIEVE THAT WE CAN. SUPPLEMENT
THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY'RE
DOING. IN IN A PROCEEDING THAT
IS DIFFERENT IN NATURE THEY CAN
BRING CIVIL CASES TO. THAT'S
CORRECT. SO BY IT'S NOT AS
THOUGH. SO I'M OUT OBVIOUSLY.
THERE'S DIFFERENT ATTITUDE
THRESHOLD WITH THE WITH THE WITH
THE WITH THE CRIMINAL CASES BUT
ANYWAY. LOOK I MEAN I HEAR I'M
HEARING YOU ON THE ON THE ISSUE
OF THE- CITY ATTORNEY'S- THE
LACK OF A REAL RECORD OF
CONFLICT. I MEAN THAT THAT'S
CERTAINLY VERY CONVINCING AND-
HAPPY TO SUPPORT RIGHT THANK
AROUND SIR SB. THANK YOU AT. SO
THE REASON I AM TRY ME UP IS
BECAUSE MY COUNTY IS
SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS OPPOSING
SACRAMENTO COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY. BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE
AND THEY DIDN'T TESTIFY SO I'M
WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY
CONVERSATIONS SPECIFIC THE
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. AND THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY NO BUT WE CAN
AND OKAY LET'S DO THAT WILL
REACH OUT AND SEE IF THERE'S YOU
KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S- IT IN
ADDITION OR- BEYOND WHAT WE'RE
HEARING FROM THE ASSOCIATION
ITSELF. THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND
IF MY OFFICE CAN BE OF ANY HELP
IN COORDINATING THAT
COMMUNICATION I'LL BE HAPPY TO
SENATOR CORTESE WILL WE BE
APPRECIATIVE OF THE OKAY. I WILL
DO THAT JUST MAKE SURE YOUR
TEAM. THAT WE CORD AFTER AND
THEN SECONDLY I JUST WANTED TO
SAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A KIND OF AN
OLD FASHIONED SCOPE. ISSUE TO ME
FROM AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT MY-
EARS ARE HEARING AND- AND WHILE
I IAN I HEAR WITH THE DA'S ARE
SAYING BUT I'M SORT OF I'M
COMPELLED BY THE ARGUMENT THAT
YOU WOULD. MAKE A DIFFERENT
STANDARD FOR SEVEN HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THOUSAND. CONSTITUENTS ARE
LESS BECAUSE OUR POPULATION
UNLESS BECAUSE- IN A SMALL
COUNTY YOU MIGHT HAVE A SMALL
COUNTY COUNSEL'S OFFICE BUT IN
THAT SAME COUNTY THEN YOU'RE
GONNA HAVE A SMALL DA'S OFFICE.
BECAUSE THE COUNTIES ARE THE
SAME AND THOSE ARE BOTH. COUNTY
WIDE SEATS SO THAT THAT'S NOT
GOING TO CHANGE THINGS. HOWEVER
IT DOES MAKE SENSE MAYBE. THAT
IF ONE OF THEM WAS WORKING ON A
CASE IN THIS REGARD THAT THEY
WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE OTHER
ONE. NOW THAT MIGHT INCREASE
RESOURCES THROUGH A COORDINATED
EFFORT AND SOME TYPE OF MULTI
JURISDICTIONAL COLLABORATION.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S WORTH
THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU MOVE ON
AND THE NEXT LEVEL BUT-
OTHERWISE I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO
AND I ALMOST CERTAINLY HELP TALK
TO SACRAMENTO COUNTY. THANK
SENATOR THANK YOU CENTER SB
CENTER WILL. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT
THAT SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY
THOUSAND THRESHOLD BECAUSE I
HAVE AN L. A. COUNTY DA THAT
DOES NOT PROSECUTE ANYBODY. AND
I KNOW OUR COUNTY CANDY CANCELS
ONCE AS I KNOW FROM MY- MY
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN MY
DISTRICT WE ARE BEING
DEVASTATED. BY ILLEGAL CANNABIS
GROWS. IN ILLEGAL INDUSTRIAL
DUMPING ALL OVER THE DESERT
DUCHESS WREAKING HAVOC-
CRITICALLY ARE UNDER WATER
SUPPLY SO. I THINK AS YOU SAID
THERE'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL. FOR
PEOPLE TO USE IT ON SOMETHING
THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE SO. I
CONTINUE ARE ENCOURAGED TO
CONTINUE WORK WITH OPPOSITION
BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING THE
RIGHT DIRECTION AND- WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. THANK
YOU MISTER CRUSHER THANK YOU
THANK YOU- CIRCLE DAISY- AND I
KNOW YOU'VE TAKEN TO HEART THE
COMMENT WITH RESPECT ESPECIALLY
TO NOTIFICATION NO ONE HERE
WANTS TO SEE DUPLICATION OF
EFFORT. EVERYONE HERE HAS SEEN
DUPLICATION OF EFFORT WERE TO
AGENCIES. OF OUR OPERATING AND
UNBEKNOWNST TO ONE OTHER OF US
GET MY OWN PERSONAL WAR STORIES
INCLUDING THE ONE WHERE TO
UNDERCOVER AGENTS SPENT A YEAR
INVESTIGATING EACH OTHER
UNKNOWINGLY- SO- BUT- BUT- I AM
I AM QUITE MINDFUL. OF THE FACT
THAT THAT WE WANT TO CREATE A
SYSTEM THAT IS- EFFICIENT. AND
EFFECTIVE AND I KNOW YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS WITH
WITH WITH THE STAY CLOSE I SEE
HEADS NODDING IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE. SO WITH THAT I'LL
ASK FOR A MOTION. WHAT WELL LET
ME ASK YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO
RESPOND TO THAT. OF BE FUN TO
RESPOND TO THE- THE ISSUE OF THE
TWO UNDERCOVER. GUYS BUT I WON'T
DO THAT THIS. WHAT THE- A ONE
HIT ON HUMOR- LET ME JUST SAY
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU. IS THERE MOTION
SIR ASHLEY MOVES THE BILL- ALL
RIGHT. MA'AM SECTOR IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOUR SB SIX FORTY TWO THE
MOTION IS TO PASS A BURKE HI.
NUMBER I WILL CRY WILK AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN AYE ASHBY. ASHBY
I'D RUSSELL THE RUSSELL I
LAYERED. I AM CHOIR IN. CAN I
ANY LOW STERN WIENER. WIENER AYE
. YOU HAVE EIGHT ZERO EIGHT ZERO
UP WITH THAT ON CALL THANK YOU
CYNICAL DAISY I SEE CENTER
EGGMAN HERE AND I'M GOING TO
TURN THE GAVEL BACK OVER TO
SENATOR WELCOME. AND I'LL BE
BACK. SHORTLY I HOPE. HOPE WAS
THAT MY SENSE. DON'T TAKE IT
PERSONALLY.
ORDER IN THE ORDER IN THE ROOM.
ALL RIGHT WE'RE MOVING ON TO
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE S. B. TWO
FORTY FOUR SENATOR EGGMAN RIGHT
TO REPAIR ACT RECOMMENDATION IS
DUE PASSED AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. CENTER EGGMAN
LAURIE SURE'S THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MR CO CHAIR OF AND THE TO
BUILD A 1% GONNA SELL LIKE YOU
KNOW. REDO MY GREATEST HITS
BECAUSE THEY'RE BILLS YOU'VE
HEARD BEFORE- BUT YOU KNOW AT
FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED THAT YOU
JUST KEEP TRY TRY AGAIN SO HERE
WE ARE BACK. WITH THE STILL
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND TIMELY
RIGHT TO REPAIR- I DON'T THINK
THE CONTENDER COMMITTEE STAFFER
THE CONTINUED WORK ON THIS AND
I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
LISTED IN THE ANALYSIS- AND WHEN
IT COMES LIKE TO THE RIGHT TO
REPAIR OUR PLANS AS I SEE A LOT
OF YOU LOOKING AT YOUR PHONES
RIGHT NOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY
PHONES CALIFORNIA'S THROW AWAY
EVERY SINGLE DAY. ABOUT FORTY
SIX THOUSAND PHONE JUST. THERE
WE GO RIGHT THAT'S JUST ONE
EXAMPLE OF ONE LINE OF
TECHNOLOGY- AND I'M SORRY THE
SENATOR FROM- ED VENICE AREA IS
GONE BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT WASTE AS WE ALL
ARE SO THIS IS A BILL NOT ONLY
TO PUT. INFORMATION AND- COUNTY
CHOICE BACK IN A CONSUMERS
HANDLE ALSO REDUCES THE AMOUNT
OF UNNEEDED AND UNWANTED WASTE
WE HAVE AND ALSO CONTINUES TO
BUILD UP OUR MIDDLE CLASS
ECONOMY. WITH THE WITH REPAIR
SHOPS WHICH BY ALL REPORTS IN
WHO ARE REGULATED UNDER THE
BUREAU OF. GOODS AND SERVICES
THERE'S BEEN. NO PROBLEMS WITH
AND THERE ARE THERE ARE
REGULATED ENTITY BECAUSE
OPPOSITION WILL SAY WELL YOU
CAN'T REALLY TRUST REPAIR SHOP
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TRUST HIM. NO
EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER. TO SUPPORT
THAT SO THE RIVER RIGHT TO
REPAIR YOU COULD SAY WE ALREADY
CAN YOU GUYS GO ON YOUTUBE AND
GOOGLE SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO FIX IT. WELL THAT'S WHAT
PEOPLE DO BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES
THINGS UNSAFE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT
GETTING ENOUGH RICE PART YOU'RE
NOT GETTING AUTHORIZED TOOL
YOU'RE NOT GETTING AN ACTUAL
HANDBOOK. HE GETS GETTING STUFF
THAT PEOPLE HAVE PUT TOGETHER
FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO
THEIR REPAIRS ON THEIR- DEVICES
AS IT IS- SO THEREFORE KEY
COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN THIS
RIGHT TO REPAIR MOST BRIDGE
REPAIRS. IS AN AUTHENTIC PART.
PROVIDED BY THE MANUFACTURER.
THE APPROPRIATE TOOLS NEEDED TO
MAKE THE REPAIR. A MENU OR
SERVICE DOCUMENTATION THAT WALKS
THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE STEPS
AND THE SOFTWARE NEEDED TO
RECALIBRATE. THE DEVICE. FROM
THIS IS GONNA MAKE. ALL OF OUR
ALL OF OUR DEVICES. LAB MORE
SENSIBLE. AND PROVIDE MORE.
OPTIONS AGAIN FOR THE CONSUMER.
IN KILL WE ALREADY HAVE A LAW
THAT SAYS THE MANUFACTURER
SHOULD PROVIDE THERE SHOULD WILL
SHOULD PROVIDE. PARTS FOR
PREPARE TO SEVEN TO TEN YEARS.
BUT OFTENTIMES THEY FALL BEHIND
A- BUT YOUR WARRANTY. WE'LL SEE
WHAT WE CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU'VE
HAD IT FIXED SOMEWHERE ELSE- AND
THEY ALL AND THEY DO THAT BY
HAVING THEIR OWN AUTHORIZED
DEALER SO IT'S PART OF A
BUSINESS MODEL WE HAVE OUR OWN
AUTHORIZED DEALERS. AND I.
PERSONALLY I JUST HAD MY
DISHWASHER GO OUT. NOW I WILL
SAY I HAVE MY NINETEEN FIFTY
FOUR WHICH WOULD OFTEN THAT YOU
ALL MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM
TIME TO TIME. IT IS GAS. BUT BUT
BY GMAI DISHWASHER JUST WENT OUT
GOT A NEW ONE ABOUT FOUR YEARS
AGO BUT SOMEBODY COMING OUT
THEY'RE LIKE WELL THAT'S BROKEN.
YOU HAVE TO GET A NEW ONE OR WE
CAN REPAIR IF IT'S GOING TO COST
MORE THAN A NEW ONE. RIGHT SO
IT'S JUST KIND OF WE USED TO
BUILDINGS TO KEEP. WE'VE
DEVELOPED A BUSINESS MODEL WE'VE
MAKE THINGS TO DISPOSE OF. AND
THEN HOOK YOU RIGHT BACK IN WITH
THE CONTRACT. FOR YOUR NEXT
PURCHASE- SO AGAIN YOU KNOW HAVE
WE DONE THIS A COUPLE TIMES. WE
THINK THIS WILL SAVE AS MUCH AS
FORTY BILLION DOLLARS OF WE ARE
IMPLEMENTED THIS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
WASTE INCREASE THE VIABILITY OF
OUR LOCAL REPAIR SHOPS WHICH ARE
GREAT JOBS FOR. AGAIN PUT GROWN
OUR MIDDLE CLASS- AND DISRUPTIVE
BUSINESS MODEL THAT FRANKLY
KEEPS IS ALL TIED WITH THAT WITH
THE TETHER. A TO THE MANUFACTURE
OF A DEVICE THAT WE HAPPEN TO
PURCHASE- SO WITH. RIGHT NOW
ALSO THAT YOU KNOW THE BITE
ADMINISTRATION IS ALSO LOOKING
AT THIS AS A WAY TO. MAKE THINGS
FLOW BETTER FOR THE CONSUMER FOR
SMALL BUSINESS- AND- MAINTAINING
THE ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS. IN
OUR MARKET- WITH ME HERE TODAY
AND THEY DID A REPORT ON IT
PEOPLE SOMETIMES REPORT TO
REPORT TO THE REPORT BY THE FTC.
OF FOR THE FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION. AB DAN SALSBERG ON
BEHALF OF THE FTC IS HERE WITH
ME TODAY AS WELL AS GEN. X. FROM
FROM CALPERS ONE OF THE QUOTE
COSPONSORS OF THE BILL. GREAT
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND THE
COMMITTEE RULES ARE TWO SPEAKERS
TWO MINUTES EACH. THANK YOU I'M
DAN SALSBERG THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE FTC'S
TESTIMONY. HER STATEMENT
SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE
PRESENTS THE OFFICIAL VIEWS OF
THE FTC. MORAL STATEMENTS
RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS ARE MY
OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY
REFLECT THE VIEWS OF THE FTC OR
ANY COMMISSIONER. THIS TESTIMONY
IS BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE
NIXON BUT SIX REPORT. REPORT
MANDATED BY CONGRESS AND ISSUED
UNANIMOUSLY BY THE BIPARTISAN
FTC IN MAY TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
REPORT EVALUATED MANUFACTURE
PRACTICES THAT IMPEDE
INDEPENDENT REPAIR THE HARMS
CAUSED BY THESE PRACTICES. AND
MANUFACTURES PROFESSED
JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE
RESTRICTIONS. WELL THE REPORT
PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE
ANALYSIS OF REPAIR RESTRICTIONS.
I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON TO
PROFESSED JUSTIFICATIONS PREPARE
RESTRICTIONS. THAT WERE
DEVELOPED BY THE REPORT. FIRST
SOME MANUFACTURERS ARGUE THAT
REPAIR RESTRICTIONS ARE VITAL TO
PROTECT REPAIR WORKERS AND
CONSUMERS FROM INJURIES. BUT THE
COMMISSION FOUND THAT THERE IS
SCANT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT
MANUFACTURES JUSTIFICATIONS FOR
PARIS TRADITIONS. INCLUDING
CLAIMS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF
REPAIRS CONDUCTED BY INDEPENDENT
REPAIR SHOPS AND OWNERS.
FURTHERMORE MANUFACTURE SAFETY
ARGUMENTS ARE DIFFICULT TO
SQUARE WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE
SECTOR. WE'RE OWNERS AND
INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOPS
ROUTINELY FIX HIGHLY COMPLEX
PRODUCTS THAT CONTAIN GASOLINE
AND BATTERY ACID THE COULD CAUSE
GREAT HARM IF IMPROPERLY
REPAIRED. THE AUTOMOTIVE SECTORS
EXPERIENCE SHOWS THAT WITH
APPROPRIATE PARTS REPAIR
INFORMATION AND TRAINING OWNERS
AND INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOPS ARE
SIMILARLY CAPABLE SICKLY
REPAIRING OTHER PRODUCTS. THE
SECOND CLAIM JUSTIFICATION IS
THAT REPAIR RESTRICTIONS PROTECT
CONSUMERS FROM. FROM CYBER
SECURITY RISKS. COMMISSION FOUND
NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST
THAT INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOPS
ARE MORE OR LESS LIKELY. AN
AUTHORIZED REPAIR SHOPS TO
COMPROMISE OR MISUSE CUSTOMER
DATA. NOR THE COMMISSION FIND
ANY EVIDENCE THAT PROVIDING
INDEPENDENT REPAIRS WITH ACCESS
TO DIAGNOSTIC AND FIRMWARE
PATCHES WOULD INTRODUCE
CYBERSECURITY RISKS. THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
THE COMMISSION VIEWS. THE FTC
REMAINS COMMITTED TO PROMOTING
COMPETITION AND CONSUMER CHOICE.
AND REPAIR MARKETS AND WELCOMES
THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATORS ON THIS
CRITICAL ISSUE. THANK YOU. HELLO
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
JENNINGS DRUM AND I'M THE STATE
DIRECTOR OF CALPERS. THE STATE
WHY CONSUMER PROTECTION GROUP IN
A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB TWO
FOUR FOR. OUR STATE AND COUNTRY
HAS AN ELECTRONIC WASTE PROBLEM
CALIFORNIAN HOUSEHOLDS ALONE
PRODUCE AN ESTIMATED SEVEN
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO THOUSAND
TONS OF E. WASTE EACH YEAR.
WHICH LEACH TOXIC CHEMICALS INTO
OUR ENVIRONMENT. THIS NUMBER IS
SO HIGH IN PART BECAUSE
MANUFACTURERS OF EVERYTHING FROM
SMARTPHONES TO REFRIGERATORS
RESTRICT ACCESS TO NECESSARY
REPAIRMAN CURIEL. AS A RESULT
CONSUMERS ARE FORCED TO GO TO
THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER WHO
CAN THEN SET PRICES SO HIGH THAT
IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO BUY
SOMETHING NEW. SB TWO FOUR FOUR
WOULD BRING MORE COMPETITION AND
CONSUMER CHOICE TO THE REPAIR
MARKET PLACE. WITH MORE OPTIONS
REPAIR CONSUMERS CAN MORE
AFFORDABLY FIX THEIR DEVICES
WHICH IS EXPECTED TO SAVE
CALIFORNIAN HOUSEHOLDS AN
ESTIMATED FIVE BILLION DOLLARS
TOTAL PER YEAR. KEEPING THINGS
IN USE THAT OUT OF OUR LANDFILL
WILL ALSO HELP TO ADDRESS ARE
YOU A CRISIS IN REDUCE THE NEED
FOR UNNECESSARY MINING AND
PRODUCTION. SB TWO FOUR FOUR
WOULD ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES
TO SMALL BUSINESSES. LOCAL
REPAIR SHOPS ACROSS THE STATE
ARE STRUGGLING WITH 59% OF SHOPS
SURVEYED INDICATING THEY MAY
HAVE TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS IF
THESE RESTRICTIONS TO REPAIR
MATERIALS CONTINUE. GIVEN ALL
THIS IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT RIGHT
TO REPAIR IS BROADLY POPULAR
ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
OUR SURVEY FOUND THAT 75% OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT RIGHT TO
REPAIR INCLUDING A MAJORITY OF
DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANS AND
INDEPENDENTS. PRESIDENT BIDEN
HAS REITERATED SUPPORT FOR THESE
REFORMS IN STATES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE STARTING TO TAKE
ACTION WITH RECENT RIGHT TO
REPAIR BILLS IN NEW YORK IN
COLORADO PASSING. THIS IS AN
IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME AND YOU
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A
HUGE STEP FORWARD FOR CONSUMERS
AND FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. AND SO
WE- DRIVE UP THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY AT THIS POINT
IT IS NAME ORGANIZATION. AND
YOUR POSITION. SECOND AFTER AN
ACCOMPLICE OF CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST WASTE WERE PROUD CO
SPONSOR IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CRAIG
HAD WILDER OF THE POLICY
COORDINATOR FOR SURFRIDER SOUTH
BAY AND I'VE ALSO IT INDEPENDENT
REPAIR CONSOLE. AND I'VE TIDIED
UP THE LONGER ABLE TO DO THIS I
SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU. THE
SELECTION ALSO BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA POLITICS TO ACHIEVE
COUNCIL. AND NORTH OF US ALWAYS
CESSATION. OF NORTH AMERICA
LET'S SEE TASK FORCE IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. CHARGING ME
WITH ELECTRONIC FRONTIER
FOUNDATION A STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS LUCY
CAP I'M WITH CALPERS AT AT UCLA
AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANKS
ACTUANT HELLO MY NAME IS TOBY-
WITH CALPERS AT UCSD AND ICE SO
. SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS TAYLOR I'M WITH
CALVARY AT UC DAVIS AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HI
MY NAME'S THE BSL OF- A SENIOR
AT UC DAVIS AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT THIS
POINT WILL TURNED OPPOSITION TO
HAVE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. AGAIN TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
SENATORS DON HOFFMAN ON BEHALF
OF TECHNET MORE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED TO SB TWO FOUR FOUR FOR.
THE BILL'S REQUIREMENTS TO
PROVIDE THE MANUALS TOOLS- AND
KEYS TO DIGITAL LOCKS WE BELIEVE
WILL JEOPARDIZE VALUABLE
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY- AND OUR
CUSTOMERS PERSONAL INFORMATION.
ON CONSUMERS HAVE MANY OPTIONS
TO GET THEIR DEVICES REPAIRED
IT'S THE INDUSTRY STANDARD TO
PROVIDE DIRECT REPAIR OPTIONS-
AS WELL AS AN AUTHORIZED REPAIR
NETWORK OF LOCAL PROVIDER SO
CONSUMERS CAN GET THEIR DEVICES-
PREPARED NEAR THEM- THE REASON
THESE NETWORKS ARE AUTHORIZED.
IN THE SHOPS GET ACCESS TO THESE
TOOLS PARTS AND INFORMATION IS
OUR MANUFACTURERS HAVE A
CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
THEM- THIS ENSURES THAT. THEY
HAVE THE TRAINING TO PROPERLY
REPAIR THE DEVICE- BUT ALSO
PROVIDES REDRESS- IF USERS
PERSONAL INFORMATION OR OUR
COMPANIES I. P. IS IMPROPERLY
ACCESS- MANY CONSUMER DEVICES
NOT JUST PHONES AND LAPTOPS.
CONTAIN PERSONAL INFORMATION.
WITH MORE CONNECTED DEVICES IN
HOMES THE NUMBER IS PRESENT A
VECTOR FOR HACKERS TO ACCESS
CONSUMERS DATA AND INFORMATION.
THE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THIS
BILL WOULD REQUIRE US TO TURN
OVER TO ANYONE WHO ASKS FOR IT
WOULD GET OF ACTOR HACKERS A
SIGNIFICANT LEG UP- IN ACCESSING
OUR DEVICES. EXPLAINED OUR
CUSTOMERS. SIGNIFICANTLY THE
REASON OUR COMPANIES AND DEVICES
ARE PROFITABLE THE REASON THEIR
VALUABLE- IS BECAUSE OF THE
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THAT MAKES
THESE POSSIBLE- WOULD BE
COUNTERFEIT FILTERS ACROSS THE
GLOBE. I WANT THE INFORMATION
THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE US TO
GIVE AWAY- IT WILL GIVE THEM A
SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE AND
UNDERCUT OUR COMPANIES WHO
EMPLOY THOUSANDS IN THE STATE
AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY- FOR
THESE REASONS WE. RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE SB TWO FOUR FOUR. LAKE
SIR. NO OTHER PRIMARY WITNESSES
ANYBODY ELSE ONE ADDED ME TO IN
OPPOSITION. NOW'S THE TIME NAME
. ORGANIZATION LEVINE TALLY WITH
THE CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU
. STEPHANIE MORROW WITH THE
CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
OPPOSED THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS STEVE CARLSON FOR CTA
WHERE THE WIRELESS INDUSTRY
TRADE ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION
. TIM LYNCH ON BEHALF OF THE
ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE
ASSOCIATION WE'RE GRATEFUL TO
THE AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE FOR
THEIR WORK WITH US. AND AS A
RESULT OF THE AMENDMENTS BEING
OFFERED TODAY WERE REMOVING OUR
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THANK
YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT SO WE GET THE
PROS WE HAVE THE CONS LET'S GO
TO THE TELECONFERENCING LINE WE
WILL TAKE BOTH PRO AND CON-
ADVOCACY ON SB TWO FORTY FOUR.
MODERATES COMMITTEE CHAIR. YES
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT
IT IS ONE THEN ZERO. AND WE'LL
GO TO THE FIRST LINE WHICH IS
ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. LINE ONE HUNDRED
AND FIFTEEN YOU ARE OPEN. WE'LL
GO TO LINE NUMBER NINETY TWO. HI
THIS IS SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ WITH
CALIFORNIAN BERMAN PROMOTERS IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. NEXT WE'LL
GO TO LINE NUMBER SIXTY FOUR. AT
THIRTY MILES AND A HALF OF THE
NATIONAL ACTION COUNCIL IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOUNG. AND
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER ONE
HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE. HI THIS
IS. SIX REPORTER MY NUMBER FIFTY
SEVEN. HI THIS IS ELIZABETH
CHAMBERLAIN I WITH THE RENTAL
COMPANY I FIX IT WE ARE CO
SPONSORS OF THE STALLED IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER ONE
HUNDRED AND. TWENTY FIVE. HELLO
THIS IS KATHY SAY FOR ON BEHALF
OF THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY AND
LOS ANGELES AFTER THE CLIMATE
REALITY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
AND THE NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE
NUMBER ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY
EIGHT. HI MY NAME IS VERA WELL
WITH THE CULTURE OF REPAIR
PROJECT IN VERY STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE NUMBER ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE
. MY NAME IS TONY I AM THE OWNER
OF ITEK IPHONE AND MACBOOK
REPAIR IN SAN DIEGO AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB. TWO FORTY
FOUR. AND THE NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE NUMBER ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR
. MY NAME IS PETER MONTESANO I'M
THE OWNER OF PETER'S PC REPAIR
IN LOS ANGELES AND I ALSO
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB TWO FORTY
FOUR. AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE
NUMBER SIXTY EIGHT. YEAH THE
DEATH IN BRIGHTON WITH THE
REPAIR DONE RIGHT COALITION IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL
TWO FORTY FOUR THANK YOU. AND
THE NEXT CO MY NUMBER SEVENTY
EIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON JUNKIES
WHO IS AND WHO PARTS NEW FACTORS
THAT WE ARE OPPOSE THANK YOU.
AND WE'RE GOING TO LINE NUMBER
NINETY NINE. HI THERE ALEXANDRIA
CHOI WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
NONPROFIT THE STORY ITSELF
PROJECT IN STRONG SUPPORT. AND
WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER ONE
HUNDRED AND NINETY DEAN. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS ROBERT
CAMPBELL I'M THE OWNER OF MAC
GUY IN REDLANDS I'M CALLING IN.
SICK AROUND SUPPORT SB TWO FOUR
FOUR THANK YOU. AND WE'RE GOING
TO LINE NUMBER ONE HUNDRED AND.
TWENTY ONE. HELLO THIS IS
MATTHEW WILLIAMS OWNER FIX MY PC
AND MERCED IN VERY STRONG
SUPPORT. AND WE'RE GOING TO LINE
NUMBER ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN
. THE VERY STRONG SUPPORT WAS IN
BUSINESS FOR OVER SIXTY YEARS
RETIRED THE GREAT BILL. AND NEXT
WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER ONE
HUNDRED AND. TWENTY SEVEN.
GROWING CONSUMER REPORT CALLING
IN STRONG SUPPORT FOR YOU TO
TWENTY FOUR. AND WE'LL GO TO
LINE ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR
. WHAT THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND. AND WE HAVE AN
ONLINE THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
PLEASE CONTINUE. THANK YOU MR
MODERATOR AT THIS POINT WE WILL
WALK WE HAVE ONE MORE ME TOO I
BELIEVE YES THAT'S WHAT I GET
FOR STEPPING OUT FROM AT ROBBER
HER L. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CONSUMER FEDERATION CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT THE BILL THANK YOU
YOU'RE THE WINNER OF THE SENATOR
BEN ALLEN AWARD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY
PULL BACK TO KERRY THIS IS. IN A
FEW WEEKS WE'RE DOING WE'RE
ACTUALLY DOING A PROGRAM
TOGETHER ABOUT CIVILITY IN
POLITICS SO. WHERE CAN PEOPLE
BUY TICKETS YOU KNOW. IT ALWAYS
IS COULD BE WORTH IT TRUST ME
ALL RIGHT WILL PULL BACK TO THE
COMMUNITY. QUESTIONS COMMENTS
CONCERNS. I MOTION BITES CENTER
MEN. NOTHING I WILL COME IN VERY
QUICKLY I VOTED AGAINST THIS IN
THE PAST BUT IT SEEMS TO ME I
DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY SPENT
ON A WASHING MACHINE IT BREAKS
EVERY IT BREAKS EVERY FOUR YEARS
I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT.
SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT TACKLING
THAT- MADE SO I'M GONNA LAY OFF
TODAY I GOT IT I GOT EDUCATE
MYSELF FURTHER. BY I THINK WE
ALL SHARE. A LOT OF THINGS ARE
ENGINEERED TO BREAK SO THEY CAN
THEY CAN SELL ANOTHER ONE AND
I'M TIRED OF BEING A COG IN THE
WHEEL SO. WITH THAT. THIS CALL
THE CELLS AGAIN I WROTE- YEAH I
GUESS I GUESS. I SAID NO A
COUNTY GET EDUCATED MORE BUT-
PLEASE CLOSE. WELL WELL IF- IF
TECHNIC COME TO TALK TO US IN
THE COMING TALK TO ME TOO.
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE
TO DO THAT YET- SO I WOULD JUST
SAY IT'S TIME AS I LIKED ONE OF
THE CALL CALLERS IT SAID. THERE
WAS ABOUT THE CULTURE OF REPAIR
RIGHT IS THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE
WORKING FOR THE SPECIAL SERVICE
BEGIN TO AGE AND WE NEED OUR
PORTRAIT. THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO
DO SOMETHING WE CAN DO WE DON'T
JUST HAVE TO TURN THE WHOLE
THING IN AND START FROM SCRATCH
LET'S PUT THE HAND THE DRIVERS
WILL BACK IN THE HANDS OF THE
CONSUMER NOT THE CORPORATION WHO
IS KEEPING US TETHERED. TO THEIR
PRODUCTS I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I. BOATS. THANK YOU WITH
THAT. OR CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE S. B. TWO
FOUR FOR. THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
UMBERG. WILK NOT VOTING. ASHBY
SB AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I RUSSELL.
RUSSELL I LAYERED. LAYERED I'M
MCGUIRE. MAN MAN I HELLO. STERN
WIENER I. YOU HAVE SIX ZERO WITH
MEMBERS NOTHING. TODAY SIX SIZE.
NO YOU LIKE TO GO UP IN THIS
BILL. I AM. NUMBER I SO THAT'S
SEVEN SO THEY GETS IT OUT WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR OTHER
MEMBERS TO ADD ON SO
CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE'LL MOVE.
I GUESS WE'LL WAIT FOR THE CHAIR
. I DON'T NUMBER SIX SIR. THANK
YOU. CENTER WILK ALL RIGHT ITEM
NUMBER SIX CENTER EGGMAN S. B.
THREE SIX THREE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH IN THIS BILL MAY ALSO SOUND
FAMILIAR TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
RETURNING MEMBERS AND WE'RE BACK
AT IT AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH AN
ONLINE ON TIME DATABASE. FOR
SECURE PSYCHIATRIC BED STEP DOWN
BEDS SUBS ABUSE BEDS IT MAKES NO
SENSE- THAT WE HAVE AN OF A AYE
THAT COULD TELL ME WHAT'S IN MY
REFRIGERATOR AND WHAT I CAN COOK
WITH IT BUT THAT WE CAN'T HAVE
AN ONLINE ON TIME DATABASE TO
KNOW WHERE THERE ARE BEDS THAT
ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEBODY'S
REQUIRED LEVEL OF CARE- SO THIS
WOULD DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT TO
DEVELOP A DATABASE. FOR EVERYONE
TO BE ABLE TO USE ONLINE ON
TIME- FINDING BEDS IS HARDER
THAN IT SHOULD BE WE KNOW PEOPLE
GET COMPAN ARE EMERGENCY ROOMS
GET COMPACTED OR JAIL GET
COMPACTED- BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
FIND A BED IN THE APPROPRIATE
TIME MAKES NO SENSE THAT WE'RE
STILL USING. A PHONE NUMBERS AND
PHONE BOOKS TO TRY TO CALL
AROUND AND LOOK SOMETIMES ALL
AROUND THE STATE TRYING TO FIND
SOMETHING THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND THIS WILL ALSO THEN ALLOW US
THE OPPORTUNITY AS WE PROVIDE
THIS. DESIGN THIS DATABASE- AND
ALSO THERE'S A MOVEMENT AROUND
THE COUNTRY FOR THIS- THAT WILL
ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE. WILL BE
ABLE TO DO. AN ASSESSMENT OF
CAPACITY HOW FAR PEOPLE HAVING
TO GO COULD THEY FIND A BED- I
KNOW THE OPPOSITION HAS SOME
BEERS THAT. YOU'LL BE ASKED TO
TAKE A PATIENT THAT THEY ARE NOT
NESTLE PREPARED FOR- THIS WILL
PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION IF
THAT IS HAPPENING WE DON'T THINK
IT IS. OR WOULD- SO WE CONTINUE
TO HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION
WITH STAKEHOLDERS. ALL THE WORK
THAT WE'VE ALL DONE IN MENTAL
HEALTH BEHAVIOR HEALTH THESE
LAST FEW YEARS. AGO YOU KNOW
BECAUSE ARE NOTHING IF WE CAN'T
STREAMLINED THINGS TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE PEOPLE. OFFICIALLY AND
EFFECTIVELY BE ABLE TO MOVE TO
THE BEST LEVEL OF CARE TO BE
ABLE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS IN THAT
MOMENT. I WITH ME TODAY I HAVE
DOCTOR SHE MIGHT TAKE WITH UC
DAVIS AND MORE TOP. ON BEHALF OF
MAYOR TODD GLORIA AND THE BIG
CITY MAYORS. THANK YOU CHEN
MEMBERS- I AM WE WERE TOP-
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT AND
COSPONSOR SEPT. ON BEHALF OF MY
CLIENTS. SAN DIEGO MAYOR TODD
GLORIA. I'M ALSO HERE TO
REPRESENT THE BIG CITY MAYORS
COALITION- OF WHICH MORE
GLORIOUS THE CHAIR THIS. OF THE
PCM IS THE COALITION OF THE
MERITS OF THE THIRTEEN LARGEST
CITIES IN THE STATE. IS THE
FIRST HAND HOW ARE COMMUNITIES
TO STRUGGLE TO PROVIDE
APPROPRIATE AND TIMELY CARE TO
THOSE EXPERIENCING SEVERE MENTAL
ILLNESS AND SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDERS. LAST YEAR THE
GOVERNOR LEGISLATURE TOOK
POSITIVE STEPS TOWARDS REFORMING
THE ANTIQUATED. INEFFICIENT AND
AT TIMES IN HUMANE BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH SYSTEM. TO ENSURE THE
CHARACTER'S OTHER REFORMS TRULY
REACH THEIR POTENTIAL. AND TO
PROVIDE THE REFORMS TO THE FULL
CONTINUUM OF CARE ADDITIONAL
ACTION AS NECESSARY SB THREE
SEVENTY THREE IS A CRITICAL. AND
MEANINGFUL STEP TOWARD REFORMING
CALIFORNIANS CALIFORNIA'S
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM. THE
AVAILABILITY OF SPECIALTY CARE
BEDS TO THOSE WHO ARE WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS
AND- SUBSTANCE- USE DISORDER IS
OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE TO THE
MERITS AND OUR COALITION. SB
THREE SIXTY THREE. AIMS TO
PROVIDE REAL TIME INFORMATION
ABOUT BED AVAILABILITY IN
FACILITIES. SUCH A RESOURCE WILL
HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND
SERVICE PROVIDERS UNDERSTAND BED
AVAILABILITY TO EXPEDITE
REFERRALS TO INPATIENT AND STEP
DOWN CARE. THE BIG CITY MAYORS
KNOW THAT WE HAVE REACHED A
CRISIS POINT OF SERIOUSLY
MENTALLY ILL CALIFORNIANS.
LANGUISHING IN OUR STREETS. SB
THREE SIXTY THREE WILL MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE
CONTINUUM OF CARE. AND BETTER
POSITION CALIFORNIA TO PROVIDE
THE SERVICES AND CARE. THE
CALIFORNIANS EXPECT EXPECT AND
DESPERATELY SEEK. WE THANK
SENATOR EGGMAN FOR CONTINUED
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE THE BIG CITY MAYORS
STAND READY TO IMPLEMENT THESE
MEASURES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
STATE AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISS TOP.
OTHERS OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT YOUR PRIMER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. OR NOT TAKE. HELLO HI
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY ON MY
NAME IS NOT A COLLEGE YOU MAY
I'M A PSYCHIATRIST AT UC DAVIS
TODAY HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF.
OF THE PSYCHIATRIC TO THE SINCE
ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIA. I WE'RE
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THIS BILL
AND AGAIN THANK. THAT ARE EGGMAN
FOR WORKING ON MANY ISSUES WITH
REGARDS TO MENTAL HEALTH. I'M AS
YOU ALL KNOW THIS WOULD CREATE
INTERNET DATABASE AND YOU KNOW
WHAT WITH THE ACTUAL OUTCOME OF
THAT BE A PATIENTS WOULD GET
CARE QUICKER OUR LOVED ONES OUR
NEIGHBORS ARE PAYING MEMBERS WE
GET CARE QUICKER- ALSO WE WOULD.
GET REALLY HELPFUL DATA ABOUT
THE PATIENTS WHO AREN'T GETTING
BACK HERE WE COULD BETTER
UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF MEDICAL
NEEDS INSURANCE NEEDS. AND SO
FORTH ARE BARRIERS FOR PATIENTS
TO GET CARE. NOW WHEN I ASKED.
WHEN I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON
BEHALF OF THIS BILL ASKED A
COLLEAGUE WHO REFERS EVERY
PATIENT- WHO WE PUT ON A FIFTY
ONE FIFTY HOLD OR WHO ARE
ASKING. TO GET- INPATIENT
SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT YOUR-
HANDLES ALL OF THOSE REFERRALS
AND- HE- IT GETS HIT WITH A
BRICK WALL ALMOST OF BARRIERS-
AND HAS TO CALL EACH AND EVERY
FACILITY. FAX REFERRAL EACH AND
EVERY FACILITY CALL THEM EVERY
DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STILL
HAVE A BAD- AND THEN COMMUNICATE
WITH OUR TEAM SO THAT WE CAN
COME UP WITH A BACKUP PLAN IF
NECESSARY- SO. I THINK THIS IS
IMPORTANT BILL NOT ONLY TO GET
THE DATA. NOT ONLY THE EXPEDITE
REFERRALS BUT- ALSO I THINK
ACTUALLY THE DATA WILL PROBABLY
DEMONSTRATE EQUITY ISSUE. THAT
PATIENTS WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE
GET BETTER ACCESS TO- INPATIENT
SUBSTANCE USE OR MENTAL HEALTH
CARE- WHILE PATIENTS ON PUBLIC
INSURANCE OR WHO ARE UNINSURED-
PROBABLY- HAVE DELAYED ACCESS TO
CARE. BASED ON MY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE AND I BELIEVE THE
DATA ALSO SHOW THAT- IN
INTERESTED EVENING SHARAF WRAP
UP AND JUST SAY THAT. I BELIEVE
OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR LOVED ONES
DESERVE BETTER MENTAL HEALTH
CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE CARE. AND
I THINK THAT'S A STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION- BURKE GIVING
BETTER OUTCOMES FOR OUR PATIENTS
SAID THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING
THIS AND ASK FOR AYE THAT THANK
YOU. THEY YOU DOCTOR. GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAMBERS CARE
ROSS ON BEHALF OF MAYOR LINCOLN
IN THE CITY OF STOCKTON IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. YOU MISTER
MEMBERS DEMAND REPRESENT THE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER THE RECALLS
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS AND
SUPPORT. YOU MISTER MEMBERS ROSS
BUCKLEY ON BEHALF OF SACRAMENTO
MAYOR DARRELL STEINBERG AND
SUPPORT. GIVE MISTER MEMBERS
POPULAR BEHALF OF SERVICES GOOD
MARYLAND BREED AND ALSO THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
PSYCHIATRISTS CO SPONSORED
DRIVER THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIR NUMBERS COREY WITH
THE STEINBERG INSTITUTE IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CAN YOU
PERSONAL COULD ALSO BE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF CHILD AND
ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRY IN CITY OF
WEST HOLLYWOOD INSTRUCTS PART.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM
SEEING KNOWN APPROACH TO MIKE
FROM LET'S TURN DOWN TO THE
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON. JOHN
MEMBERS LISA GARDNER WHERE THE
COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION WE
REPRESENT THE LEADERS. OF THE
PUBLIC BEHAVIOR HEALTH SAFETY
NET IN FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES AND
TWO CITIES. WE RESPECTFULLY HAVE
AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THIS LEGISLATION.
DUE TO THE SANCTIONS THAT HAVE
BEEN ADDED IN THIS YEAR'S
VERSION OF THE BILL. WE AGREE
WITH THE AUTHOR THAT CALIFORNIA
WOULD BENEFIT FOR A MORE
THOROUGH INVENTORY OF AVAILABLE
INPATIENT BEDS AND WE APPRECIATE
THE AUTHOR'S DEDICATION TO THIS-
HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THIS EFFORT
SHOULD BE GUIDED BY PARTNERSHIPS
RATHER THAN PUNITIVE APPROACHES-
THIS BILL EMPOWERS THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES. WITH SANCTION
AUTHORITY FOR COMPLIANCE
CRITERIA THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN
DEVELOPED EXPOSING OUR COUNTY
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGENCIES AND
CONTRACTED PROVIDERS TO UNKNOWN
LIABILITY. WE URGE THE AUTHOR TO
HOLD OFF A PUNITIVE ENFORCEMENT
MECHANISMS THAT WOULD DIVERT
TIME AND RESOURCES AWAY FROM
PATIENT CARE. ULTIMATELY THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT BARRIER TO
PATIENT CARE IS THE AVAILABILITY
OF FATS WE BELIEVE AND- THE
WILLINGNESS OF FACILITIES TO
ACCEPT. THOSE PATIENTS OUT WE
APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION SEEING. AN
INHERENT IN MY C. IT. IS IF
THERE'S ANYONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION- YOUR APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE SING NO ONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION LESTER ON THE PHONE
LINES MOTOR IF YOU QUEUE UP
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
TO S. B.
THREE SIX THREE.
PARDON ME MISTER CHAIR. IF YOU
WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO. WILL FIRST
GO TO. LINE FIFTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS HEARINGS
INVOLVING ON THE APPLICATION
CARE KAREN BELL AND YOU COULD
FEEL. THAT IN STRONG SUPPORT
TEAM HEO. YEAH. YOU WILL NOW GO
ONE ONE SEVEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
DANNY OFFER WITH THE NATIONAL
ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS ALSO
KNOWN AS NOBBY CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL SPONSORED THE BILL IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANKS THANK YOU
. ONE ONE OH NINE YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. HELLO CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MY NAME IS BELIEVED HER
SHADES ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IN SUPPORT
OF SB THREE SIX THREE. THANK YOU
THANK YOU. NOW GO TO LINE. ONE
THIRTY SEVEN. DANIEL SABINO
SENSATION OF REGIONAL CENTER
AGENCIES ALSO IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. LINE ONE TWENTY FOR YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. HELLO THIS IS
JOE TAXPAYER IN REGARDS TO THE
FIRST AMENDMENT I'M IN
OPPOSITION BECAUSE THERE'S TOO
MANY BUZZ WORDS ARE A BIG BREATH
THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU. MISTER CHAIR WE DO HAVE ONE
MORE PERSON WHO SIGNALED THEY
WISH TO SPEAK JUST A MOMENT
PLEASE SIGN. WILL NOW GO TO LINE
ONE THIRTY NINE. WE INSTALLED
WILL HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S YOUR
ADDRESS HELLO HI THIS IS RICHARD
CASTLE COURT AND SAN FRANCISCO
AND I OPPOSE BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. WATER ANYONE ELSE'S
SUPPORTERS ASIAN. MISTER CHAIR
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IS SIGNALED
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK ALL
RIGHT LET'S REBEKAH COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
YES SIR WIENER- THANK YOU- I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
THIS WORK AND HER CONSOLATION OF
WORK ON- MENTAL HEALTH AND THIS
BILL IS WAY WAY WAY OVERDUE AND
WE KNOW THAT. ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH
SYSTEM IS IT'S SO FRAGMENTED I
DID A MENTAL HEALTH AND
ADDICTION TOWN HALL LAST NIGHT
WITH A SEVERAL- POLICYMAKERS AND
PHYSICIANS. FROM UCSF AND THE
SAN FRANCISCO DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC HEALTH AND ONE OF THE
THINGS. WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT
FOR SOMEONE WHO NEEDS. MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT EVEN WITH
INSURANCE. YOU HAVE TO SORT OF
START CALLING AROUND AND
RANDOMLY SEEING WHO MIGHT BE
AVAILABLE AND IT'S REALLY
DISJOINTED- AND THE SAME IS TRUE
WITH WITH BAD. NEWS WE
INCREMENTAL HELP AS WE NEED-
MORE MENTAL HEALTH BEDS WE NEED
MORE PLACEMENT SLOTS ABSOLUTELY
AND I KNOW. OKAY B. BY NEXT YEAR
UNKNOWNS AND CAMARO BREED OF
PRIORITIZE. EXPANDING NUMBER BAD
- BUT THE IDEA THAT WE WOULDN'T
HAVE A CENTRALIZED CATALOG TO ME
IS JUST. BAFFLING AND SO I
APPRECIATE- THE BILL AND I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE IT. AS. ALL RIGHT.
OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS SEEING
NONE OF. CENTER WE MOVED THE
BILL- EGGMAN GOT IT RIGHT THERE
WOULD JUST THANK YOU ALL VERY
MUCH- NINETY WAS TIME I THINK
IT'S FINALLY COMING I JUST WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM THE
OPPOSITION WE PUT THAT FINE IN
THERE BUT I WILL POINT OUT A
COULD BE A FINE. A CORRECTIVE
ACTION OR FIND A HUNDRED DOLLARS
A DAY WE DON'T JUST WANT TO MAKE
THIS A SUGGESTION WE WANT PEOPLE
TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT BUT
WE'RE GLAD TO KEEP TALKING AND I
RESPECTFULLY AND GRIEF CLASS BE
I'VE- THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX SB
THREE SIXTY THREE THE MOTION IS
TO PASS THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. I'M BURKE HI A
BIRD I WILL CRY WILK AYE ALLEN
AYE ALLEN AYE ASHLEY. ASHLEY I
DO RUSSELL. RUSSELL I LAYERED.
REQUIRE MAN MAN AINI LOW. STERN
WIENER ALL RIGHT WIENER I. YOU
HAVE SEVEN ZERO SEVEN ZERO WILL
PUT THAT ON CALL ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU NEXT WE HAVE- GLAZER GLAZER
GLAZER WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN EIGHT
AND NINE BY SENATOR GLAZERS. I
TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER HERE. THE
YES SURE GO AHEAD YEAH. YEAH
YEAH ALL RIGHT LET'S START
THOUGH- WITH SB THIRTY THREE
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. GREAT THANK
YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS AT FIRST
LET ME THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK ON THIS.
BILL OUT IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED.
SB TWELVE THIRTY FIVE TO REQUIRE
FINANCIAL PROVIDERS. TO GIVE
SMALL BUSINESS TRUTH IN LENDING
DISCLOSURES. WHICH INCLUDES
EXPRESSING THE TOTAL COSTS OF
FINANCING AS AN ANNUALIZED RATE
. RECOGNIZING THEIR EXPERTISE
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL
PROTECTION INNOVATION. WAS GIVEN
THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE THE
EXACT METRIC FINANCIAL PROVIDERS
WOULD USE. AND BOY DID THEY TAKE
THEIR TIME ADVOCATING GREAT DEAL
OF THOUGHT FROM THIS IN DETAIL
THE HELD THREE INFORMAL
HEARINGS. SIX FORMAL COMMENT
PERIODS. AND THE DEPARTMENT
SHOWS THE TIME TESTED APR THE
ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE- AS THE
STANDARD YOU BOB SURE ARE
FAMILIAR WITH THAT WITH YOUR
CREDIT CARDS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
TERMS OF HOW YOU ASSESS THE COST
OF MONEY THAT YOU ARE BORROWING
THROUGH YOUR CREDIT CARD. THEY
RELEASED A FORTY EIGHT PAGE
GUIDELINE DOCUMENT ON HOW TO
FINANCIAL PROVIDERS WOULD COMPLY
WITH THE DISCLOSURE. HI I'VE
NOTICED STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE
FEDERAL RESERVE FOUND THAT
CONSUMERS LIKE A PR BECAUSE
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND IT
PROVIDES THEM WITH CRUCIAL
INFORMATION INTO DIGESTIBLE
MATTER. AT THIS BILL SB THIRTY
THREE. REPEALS THE SUNSET
INCORPORATED INTO TWELVE THIRTY
FIVE ALLOWING FOR THE CONTINUED
DISCLOSURE OF TOTAL COST OF
FINANCING TO BE EXPRESSED AS AN
APR. THIS BILL ENSURES SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS TO BORROW MONEY
CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM THE
PROTECTIONS THE LEGISLATURE
ADOPTED IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN. WITH ME I HAVE THAT TO
FOLKS TO TESTIFY- IN SUPPORT
HEIDI- PICKMAN WHO IS THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF ENGAGEMENT AND
EXTERNAL RELATIONS FOR CAMEO THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION FOR MICRO
ENTERPRISE OPPORTUNITY. AND
MICHAEL RAPAPORT WHO'S THE CEO
AND PRESIDENT. OF AXION
OPPORTUNITY FUND TO ALSO
TESTIFIED SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
FORGERS THANK YOU THANK YOU
JERRY NUMBER VICE CHAIRMAN WILK
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS HEIDI PICKMAN AND OF
CAMEO AND WHERE THE STATE WIDE
NETWORK OF ENTREPRENEURIAL
TRAINING PROGRAMS AND MICRO LAM
LENDERS THAT ARE MISSION DRIVEN
TO SERVE SMALL BUSINESSES. WITH
LOANS CREDIT PRODUCTS AND CREDIT
ASSISTANCE. MY MEMBERS SERVE
OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND VERY
SMALL BUSINESSES WITH THE
SERVICES WE ARE CONSTANTLY
HEARING FROM OUR MEMBERS ARE
LENDING MEMBERS- THAT THEY'RE
REFINANCING OR TRYING TO
REFINANCE PREDATORY FINANCING
THAT THEIR CLIENTS HAVE FOUND
ONLINE. NOT A LOT UNLIMITED A
BAD. I'M VERY GOOD THERE THEY
DISCLOSE THEIR PRICES. THE
FEDERAL TRUTH IN LENDING ACT
PROTECTS CONSUMERS BUT NOT SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT'S WHY WE WERE
STRONG SUPPORTERS OF SB TWELVE
THIRTY FIVE THE NATION'S FIRST
RECENT LENDING BILL FOR SMALL
BUSINESS FINANCING PRODUCTS- AND
THAT BILL ALLOWED FARMERS TO
MORE EASILY COMPARE THEIR
FINANCING OPTIONS AND UNDERSTAND
THE TRUE COST OF THE MONEY
THEY'RE BORROWING. AND THAT'S
WHY WE ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF
SB THIRTY THREE IT WOULD
CONTINUE THE MOST CRITICAL
PROTECTION AND THAT'S THE
DISCLOSURE OF THE ANNUAL
PERCENTAGE RATE OR APR. NAPR
THAT INCLUDES ALL THE RATES IN
FROM FEES CONSIDER IS THE TIME
VALUE OF MONEY THERE'S NO
WEATHER MEASURE THAT DOES THAT
THAT LED TO THE FIRE KNOW THE
TRUE COST OF THE LOAN. REPAIRS
BUT MOST SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS
FAMILIAR WITH CREDIT CARDS AUTO
LOANS MORTGAGES AND OTHER
CONSUMER PRODUCTS USE THEM AND
THEY ALL HAVE TO DISCLOSE ANY
PR. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
STUDY FOUND SMALL BUSINESS
BORROWERS SEEKING FINANCING
ONLINE FIND APR IS THE MOST
USEFUL TERM FOR UNDERSTANDING
THE COST OF THEIR PRODUCTS. THEY
ALSO FOUND. THAT WHEN A SMALL BY
THE BUSINESS. SIS AND NUMBER AT
THAT LIKE A PR THINK THINK IT IS
IN A P. EVEN WHEN IT ISN'T IF
YOU WERE TO GET A CREDIT CARD.
THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS 40% BUT
REALLY WHAT THE THAT YOU THOUGHT
MIGHT BE 18% OR THIRTEEN
PERCENT. BUT WAS ACTUALLY FORTY
OR 50% YOU MIGHT THINK TWICE
AGAINST- USING THAT CREDIT CARD.
TRUTH IS THAT MOST SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS MAKE FINANCIAL
DECISIONS AS A CONSUMER IT'S THE
EASIEST WAY TO TELL- IF THEY
SHOULD PICK UP SOME KIND OF
FINANCING IS LOOK AT THE ATR. SB
THIRTY THREE WHEN ENSURE THAT
SMALL BUSINESS BORROWERS HAVE
THE INFORMATION THANK YOU VERY
MUCH IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP.
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD THANK YOU
CHAIRMAN NUMBER OF VICE CHAIRMAN
WELCOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
I'M PLEASED TO JOIN YOU ALL
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB THIRTY
THREE. A BILL THAT WOULD REQUIRE
PROVIDERS TO DISCLOSE THE TOTAL
COST OF FINANCING THEIR
FINANCING PRODUCTS PASSED
JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY FOUR. AS
MENTIONED MY NAME IS MICHAEL
RAPAPORT AND PRESIDENT CHIEF
OPERATING OFFICER AND ACTION
OPPORTUNITY FUND WE ARE A
CALIFORNIA BASED LEADING
NONPROFIT. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. WE ARE A
SMALL BUSINESS LENDER THAT
PROVIDES COACHING TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE AND CAPITAL TO
ENTREPRENEURS NATIONWIDE. IN
CALIFORNIA ALONE WE HAVE
DEPLOYED NEARLY FIVE HUNDRED
EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS IN
CAPITAL TO THIRTEEN THOUSAND
ENTREPRENEURS. AND 90% OF OUR
CLIENTS ARE WOMEN PEOPLE OF
COLOR OR PEOPLE WITH LOW TO
MODERATE INCOMES. AS A FOUNDING
MEMBER OF THE RESPONSIBLE
BUSINESS LENDING COALITION WE
INITIALLY SUPPORTED SB TWELVE
THIRTY FIVE. AND THE TRANSPARENT
DISCLOSURE OF A COMMONLY USED
MEASURE OF THE COST OF A LOAN.
THE ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE WHICH
HAD BEEN USED ACROSS MOST
CONSUMER LENDING PRODUCTS FOR
DECADES. IT'S CRITICAL THAT
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE THAT
UNIVERSAL MEASURE TO EVALUATE
DIFFERENT FINANCING OPTIONS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR RESEARCH HAS
SHOWN THAT SOME FINANCING
OPTIONS FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
OWNERS INCLUDING SOME SALES
BASED FINANCING OPTIONS CAN
RESULT IN AVERAGE APR AS OF
NINETY FOUR PERCENT. AND CAN
EVEN RESULT IN APR IS AS HIGH AS
THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT
PERCENT. RUNNING A SMALL
BUSINESS IS HARD WORK AND IT'S
EVEN HARDER TODAY AS
ENTREPRENEURS ACROSS CALIFORNIA
NAVIGATE ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTIES
AND THE LINGERING EFFECTS OF
COVERT. YET HISTORICALLY SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE NOT BEEN
GIVEN THE SAME PROTECTION AS
INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS WHEN IT
COMES TO TRANSPARENCY.
CALIFORNIA BLAZE THE TRAIL FOR
PRICE TRANSPARENCY WITH SB
TWELVE THIRTY FIVE. TAKING AWAY
THAT PROTECTION WOULD MAKE IT
HARDER FOR ENTREPRENEURS TO
NAVIGATE THE MANY FINANCING
OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
TODAY. PARTICULARLY COMPLEX ONES
LIKE SALES BASED FINANCING
THEREFORE WE STRONGLY SUPPORT SB
THIRTY THREE AND ASK YOU TO
SUPPORT IT AS WELL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT OTHERS IN
THE ROOM WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF
SB THIRTY THREE PLEASE PRO TO
MICROPHONE. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ROBERT CORRAL
EXECUTOR CONSUMER FEDERATION
CALIFORNIA AND RECENT WINNER OF
SCOTT WILKES AWARD FOR THE BEN
ALLEN ENTERING THE ROOM- IN
SUPPORT. SOME OF THE ALL RIGHT-
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. HER NAME. HI
THERE MY NAME IS NAMED FILIATION
NO MENTION OF SENATOR WILL. MY
NAME IS BIANCA ALONG WITH THEM
POLICY DIRECTOR FOR SMALL
BUSINESS MAJORITY IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB THIRTY THREE THANK
YOU. OTHERS IN THE ROOM SEE NO
ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM. IT'S NOW
TURNED OPPOSITION THOSE OPPOSED
TO SB THIRTY THREE IF YOU
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. SEEING
NO ONE APPROACH TO MICROPHONE
ALL RIGHT ALLISTER THE PHONE
LINES MODERATE IF YOU TWO OF
THOSE BOTH IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION SB THIRTY THREE.
THANK THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR FOR
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE WILL NOW GO TO
LINE UP FOR DETAILS. GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS DAN LA
NINA. I AM AN ATTORNEY WITH THE
LAW FIRM PUTS THE COOK AND I
REPRESENT REVENUE BASED FINANCE
COALITION. A NONPROFIT GROUP OF
RESPONSIBLE PROVIDERS OF CAPITAL
TO SMALL AND MEDIUM SIZED
BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN WHY WE
OPPOSE SB THIRTY THREE. UP
PASSAGE OF SB THIRTY THREE WILL
SET IN STONE A CONTROVERSY WILL
A- CIRCLE YOUR RETIREMENT SIR
YES YOUR NAME AFFILIATION IN
YOUR POSITION. UNDER MY NAME IS
DAN LOTHIAN UP I'M WITH HAWKING
COOK REPRESENTING. A REVENUE
BASED FINANCE COALITION AND WE
OPPOSE SB THIRTY THREE RD THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OKAY- OTHER LIGHT
WENT AWAY YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HELLO YES I CAN HEAR YOU IT YES
MY NAME IS BRANDY YES I OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. LINE.
EIGHTY EIGHT. LINE EIGHTY EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. HELLO
THIS IS CHRISTOPHER GRAHAM- WITH
THE INNOVATIVE LEARNING PLATFORM
ASSOCIATION A LEADING TRADE
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING OUR
SMALL BUSINESS FINANCE PROVIDERS
AND SERVICERS TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL THIRTY
THREE AT THE RIGHT PRICE THANK
YOU. LINE. ONE FORTY FOUR. HI MY
NAME IS RYAN METCALF IN THE
DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS A
FUNDING CIRCLE WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF SB THIRTY THREE. THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIR THERE IS NO ONE
ELSE TO SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH
TO SPEAK ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING
IT BACK TO DO ONE OF THE PERSON
THE HEARING ROOM YOUR NAME YOUR
FILIATION POSITION. UNDERWORLD'S
WITH EVERYONE INSTITUTE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
SHINSEGAE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
SEEING NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS-
IS OUR MOTION. CYNDER MEN MOST
THE BILL SENATE WAYS YOU WOULD
LIKE CLOSE THANK YOU FOR THE
CONSIDERATION OF THIS I THINK
FOR ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES
THAT ARE IN A POSITION OF HAVING
TO BORROW MONEY. ASSOCIATE BEING
ABLE TO COMPARE PRICING MAKE
GOOD CHOICES WHICH IS BILL
INTENDS TO ADVANCE OF THAT STUFF
WE ASTRONOMICAL THANK YOU MA'AM
SECTOR IF YOU CALL THE ROLL.
THIS IS FILE IN THE NUMBER SEVEN
SB THIRTY THREE THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS UMBERG. A BIRD I
WILL CALL RIGHT WILK AYE ALLEN.
ALLEN AYE ASHBY. ASHBY I DO
RUSSELL. RUSSELL I LAYERED.
MCGUIRE MAN. MAN AINI LOW STERN.
SEVEN ZERO PUT THE BILL ON CALL
ALL RIGHT IS GERMAN THAT IS
UNUSUAL REQUEST BUT- I'M- I TO
PRESENT A BILL AND ANOTHER
HEARING AND THEY'VE COMPLETED
THEIR AGENDA. AND I KNOW YOU'RE
CHEN IS GOING TO CONTINUE BEYOND
THE BILLS THAT I'M PRESENTING
OUT LIKE TO ASK IF I CAN DO FOR
THESE TWO PLEASE SURE WE WOULD
BE HAPPY WILL DEFER UNTIL NEXT
WEEK. NO I'M KIDDING SENATOR
GLAZERS HITTING YOU MAY COME
BACK THAT'S FINE ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT- OTHER AUTHORS
THAT ARE IN THE ROOM WE- SENATOR
HER TADO IS CENTER HER TADO
HERE. NO AND- CINDER GONZALEZ IS
CHEERING COMMITTEE. OF SENATOR
ROTH. ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE.
ALL RIGHT. ASSEMBLY THIS
SENTIMENT ED PRESENT YOUR BILL.
SO CENTER MEN YEAH- S. B. SEVEN
FORTY ONE. THAT'S SOME ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY TWO SB SEVEN FORTY
ONE THANK YOU CENTERMAN- GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR ON BIRD MEMBERS
THE COMMITTEE SB SEVEN FORTY ONE
WOULD AMEND THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACT TO ALLOW
PRE HEARING DISCOVERY. ONLY IF
SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED BY THE
COURTS- BY THE COURT I LOVE
MYSTIC VIOLENCE RESTRAINING
ORDERS ARE DVR ROSE HAVE PROVEN
TO BE AN EFFECTIVE LEGAL REMEDY
FOR SURVIVORS. A LACK OF CLARITY
IN THE DISCOVERY PROCESS HAS
BEEN EXPLOITED TO THEIR
DETRIMENT I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE
TO BRING THIS BILL BUT
UNFORTUNATE WE SEEN A LITANY OF
ABUSES. WHERE ABUSIVE PARTIES
ARE TRYING TO CREATE LINK THE
DISCOVERY PROCESS PROCESSES AS A
MEANS OF INTIMIDATING OR
HARASSING VICTIMS ARE FORCING
CONTACT AND CAUSING THEM TO
ENCOURAGE LEGAL FEES AND OTHER
EXPENSES- THUS EXTENDING THE
WINDOW WITH WHICH THAT ABUSIVE
BEHAVIOR AND COERCIVE CONTROL
OCCURS- THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE
PARTIES AND THEIR COUNSEL TO
FILE A WRITTEN MOTION. THAT
EXPLICITLY STATES THE SPECIFIC
TYPES OF DISCOVERY SOUGHT IN THE
SPECIFIC EVIDENCE THIS DISCOVERY
IS SEEKING TO UNCOVER PRIOR TO A
DVR- HEARING- WELL THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON AND THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA HAVE ALREADY ENACTED
RESTRICTIONS ON DISCOVERY-
TAYLOR FOR DVR- CASES CALIFORNIA
DOES NOT. I SB SEVEN FORTY ONE
WOULD REDUCE THE RISK OF
HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION OF
DVR DV SURVIVORS AND PREVENT
UNNECESSARY DELAY IN
ADJUDICATING DV ARE- REQUESTS.
WHERE TIME IS OFTEN OF THE
ESSENCE. I DON'T HAVE ANY
WITNESSES HERE WITH ME TODAY-
BECAUSE WE ARE ASKED TO PRESENT
EARLY BUT I AM HERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT- WELL LET'S
TAKE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM WHICH
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT- SEEING KNOWN
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AREN'T
LISTED OPPOSITION. OPPOSITION TO
SB SEVEN FORTY ONE FILE NUMBER
TWENTY TWO. YES SIR CLOSURES OF
MY NAME IS RONALD SEGAL BOY. AND
THEY HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT TO BE
IN. ARE YOU TESTIFYING IN
OPPOSITION. I GUESS SO YES ALL
RIGHT GO AHEAD OF TWO MINUTES
I'M WITHIN THE- DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE IN GENERAL. IS A MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUE. AND I BELIEVE THAT
THESE- COMMITTEE SHOULD INVITE
AND LISTEN TO A- MEANT THAT HAS
EXPECTS BURKE. ON DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE- TO UNDERSTAND THE
ISSUE BETTER AND MAKE THE BILL
SO THAT THE- HELLO THE PERFECT
THE BILL. SO THAT DOESN'T LEAVE
ANY REPORT. AND I ACTUALLY HAVE
A PERSON IN MIND. FILL THE PCM
PSYCHOLOGY THAT HAVE WORKED WITH
UNIVERSITIES. AND FEMA. ON THE
ISSUE OF ABUSE AND CHILD ABUSE
AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AND THE
COMMITTEES INTERESTING I COULD
PROVIDE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION
. OF WILL BE HAPPY TO RECEIVE
WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO SUBMIT
THANK YOU OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT. ANYONE
ELSE WISH TO TESTIFY IN THE
HEARING ROOM ON S. B. SEVEN
FORTY ONE- AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW
THAT SENTIMENT HAS THE IN HOUSE
EXPERT ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
THAT HE DIFFERS TOO OFTEN SO ALL
RIGHT A SINGLE ELSE SMALLER IF
YOU WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE ON THE
PHONE WAS TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION SB SEVEN FORTY ONE
. IF YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. MISTER CHAIRED
APPEARS THAT NO ONE IS SIGNAL
PARDON ME WE DO HAVE ONE LATE
SIGNALLER JUST A MOMENT.
I WILL NOW HEAR FROM LINE ONE
FORTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. ON
TOP OF A- RECALL REPAIR SHOP IN
LOS ANGELES- WE- SERVICE ONE
FILE ITEM TWENTY S. B. SEVEN
FORTY ONE CONCERNING DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. I APOLOGIZE I'M SORRY
RT THANK YOU. MODER ANYONE ELSE
WHO IS TO TESTIFY ON SB SEVEN
FORTY ONE. MISTER CHAIR THERE IS
NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK ARE YOU BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
COMMENTS ZERO MOTION- SIR WE ARE
MOVES THE BILL. RIGHT SERMON
CARLOS THANK YOU AGAIN MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE I THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT BUT I'M SICK TOO IF
YOU CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY TWO SB SEVEN
FORTY ONE THE MOTION IS TO PASS
A BURKE HI NUMBER I WILL CALL
RIGHT WILK AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
ASHBY ASHBY I'D RUSSELL RUSSELL
I LAYERED. MCGUIRE MAN MAN I ANY
LOW STERN WIENER WIENER I. YOU
HAVE SEVEN ZERO. ALL RIGHT-
SEVEN ZERO THE BILL'S ON CALL.
OTHER AUTHORS WISHING TO PRESENT
THEIR BILL- SENATOR WIENER- FILE
ITEM NUMBER. THREE SIXTY FIVE.
THE SOAP.
RIGHT THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY FOUR SB THREE SIXTY FIVE
BY CENTER WIENER CENTER WIENER
GO AHEAD. BUT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MR PARA PROFESSIONAL
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BILL
WHICH I KNOW WILL CONTINUE AFTER
TODAY SO I APPRECIATE THE
ENGAGEMENT- SB THREE SIXTY FIVE
WILL HELP LEVEL THE PLAYING
FIELD FOR CONSUMERS WORKERS
PUBLIC ENTITIES WHO ARE
INCREASINGLY BEING FORCED OUT OF
THE COURTS. ARE THROUGH FORCED
ARBITRATION CLAUSES- THIS BILL
CLOSES A LEGAL LOOPHOLE THAT
ALLOWS CORPORATIONS TO
AUTOMATICALLY DELAY COURT
PROCEEDINGS SOMETIMES BY YEARS
BY FILING AN APPEAL AFTER A
JUDGE HAS DENIED A MOTION TO
COMPEL ARBITRATION IN OTHER
WORDS THE COURT HAS DETERMINED
THAT THE CASE IS NOT SUBJECT TO
ARBITRATION. AND CORPORATION
APPEALED THAT RULING AND AS THE
AUTOMATIC STAY. THAT DELAYS-
JUSTICE. OUR CURRENT LAW ALLOWS-
SOMEONE WHO HAS MADE A MOTION TO
COMPEL ARBITRATION THAT'S
TONIGHT TO AUTOMATICALLY
APPEALED TO THE CONSUMER. DOES
NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT BUT PERSON
OR THE CORPORATION SEEKING
ARBITRATION HAS A RIGHT
AUTOMATICALLY TO APPEAL WITH AN
AUTOMATIC STAY- THERE ARE CASES
WHERE YOU HAVE A PARTY THAT
NEVER EVEN SIGNED AN ARBITRATION
AGREEMENT. CORPORATION FILED A
MOTION TO COMPEL ARBITRATION
BASED ON SOME. WEIRD BOGUS
ARGUMENT- FRIVOLOUS ARGUMENT
FRANKLY- THAT ARBITRATION
APPLIES TO A PARTY TO NEVER EVEN
SIGN ARBITRATION AGREEMENT THE
CORE OF COURSE. DENIES THAT
MOTION AND THE CORPORATION CAN
THEN FILE AN AUTOMATIC APPEAL
AND AUTOMATICALLY STAY THE TRIAL
COURT PROCEEDINGS FOR YEARS
UNTIL THAT FRIVOLOUS APPEAL HAS
WORKED ITS WAY. THROUGH THE
SYSTEM IN FACT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL CALIFORNIA JUST HAD THAT
HAPPEN TO HIM NEVER SIGNED AN
ARBITRATION AGREEMENT WITH LIFT
AND UBER. AND YET THEY APPEALED.
THE DENIAL OF THEIR MOTION TO
COMPEL ARBITRATION THIS IS A
BADLY ABUSED PROCESS THAT SB
THREE SIXTY FIVE WILL HELP
REMEDY. SB THREE SIXTY FIVE WILL
SIMPLY ALLOW A CASE TO PROCEED.
EVEN IF AN APPEALS AND FILED
ONCE THE TRIAL COURT HAS RULED
REJECTED A MOTION TO COMPEL
ARBITRATION. SO WE HAVE A CORD
THAT IS REJECTED THE MOTION TO
COMPEL ARBITRATION WE'RE JUST
SAYING LET'S LET THE CASE
PROCEED THEY COMPILE THEIR
APPEAL WE CAN LITIGATE THEIR
APPEAL BUT- LET JUSTICE MOVE
FORWARD- CORPORATIONS I ENJOY
ENORMOUS OF AN ADVANTAGES. AS I
JUST DESCRIBED WHEN IT COMES TO
ARBITRATION AT HOTMAIL THEY HAVE
THE RIGHT TO APPEAL BECAUSE THEY
ARE OVERWHELMINGLY THE ONES WHO
WERE SEEKING ARBITRATION
CONSUMERS ARE TYPICALLY NOT
VALLEY MOTIONS TO COMPEL
ARBITRATION IT'S LARGE
CORPORATIONS. AND THEY HAVE AN
AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO APPEAL AND
THEY CAN CURRENTLY HAVE THAT
STATE- CONSUMERS AGAIN DO NOT
HAVE THAT SAME RIGHT- THESE LONG
APPEALS HAVE HUGE. IMPACTS
PEOPLE CAN DIE. IN THE COURSE OF
THESE MULTI YEAR. STAYS THIS
BILL WILL PROVIDE A DEGREE OF
EQUITY WE'RE NOT EVEN ASKING FOR
FULL COMPLETE ACCORDING TO US
ASKING FOR THE BASIC RELIEF.
ALLOWING THE CASE TO PROCEED.
NOTHING IN SB THREE SIXTY FIVE
CHANGES. WHETHER AN ARBITRATION
CLAUSES ENFORCEABLE OR NOT SCOTT
WILL REMAIN THE SAME THIS IS
SIMPLY A PROCEDURAL. FORM OF
EQUITY- SB THREE SIXTY FIVE IS
CO SPONSORED BY ATTORNEY GENERAL
ROB BONTA AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS
ASSOCIATION. AND THE CONSUMER
ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA. IT IS
BACKED BY A MASSIVE COALITION-
INCLUDING CITY ATTORNEYS AND
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND LABOR
ORGANIZATIONS AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. WITH ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY- I WANNA SAY MY
CURTIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE
TODAY WHO IS SOMEONE WHO IS A
LITIGANT WHO IS IMPACTED BY THIS
HER FLIGHT WAS DELAYED BY MANY
HOURS AND SO SHE UNFORTUNATELY.
IS SIMPLY PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO
BE HERE IN TIME AND I APOLOGIZE
TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE ONE
OF OUR MAIN WITNESSES SIMPLY
GOING TO BE HERE I KNOW SHE WAS
REALLY UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT BUT
HER ATTORNEY- SERRA LONDON- IS
HERE WHO WILL TESTIFY ON HER
BEHALF AND REPRESENT ARCENEAUX'S
HER CASE- WE ALSO HAVE MATTHEW
GOLDBERG THE CHIEF ATTORNEY.
OPERA THE WORKER PROTECTION
UNIT- IN- MY ALMA MATER OF THE
SAN FRANCISCO CITY ATTORNEY. RT
THANK YOU CENTER WIENER. MISS
LONDON. I THANK YOU I TERM
NUMBER AGAIN TO THE ENTIRE
COMMITTEE HI MY NAME IS SERRA
LONDON AND I AM FROM LEAP REYES
ARE HIDING IT BURNED SCENE IN
SAN FRANCISCO. AND I'M HERE TO
SUBSTITUTE IN FOR MY CLIENT MY
CURTIS WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED SHE
COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. AND
WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF
SENATE BILL THREE SIXTY FIVE TO
CLOSE THIS PROCEDURAL LOOPHOLE.
THAT CAN- AND DOES THE NET DENY
AND DELAY JUSTICE. TO OVER FIVE
YEARS AGO ON MARCH ELEVENTH OF
TWENTY EIGHTEEN. MISS CURTIS AND
HUNDREDS OF OTHER WOMEN AND
FAMILIES RECEIVED A HORRIBLE
EMAIL THAT THEIR EGGS AND
EMBRYOS THAT WERE STORED AT A
FERTILITY CLINIC IN SAN
FRANCISCO HAD BEEN DAMAGED OR
DESTROYED. BY A STORAGE TANK
FAILURE. THEY REPORT BEING
GRIPPED BY PANIC AND DESPAIR.
AND AS THEY HAD UNDERGONE.
PAINFUL AND INTENSIVE
PROCEDURES. TO TRY TO PRESERVE
THEIR FERTILITY OPTIONS AND PLAN
THEIR FAMILIES. NOW MS CURTIS
WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO STEP
FORWARD HI TO BECOME A LITIGANT
IN THIS ACTION BECAUSE SHE
WANTED TO BRING- WHAT HAPPENED
TO LIGHT. TO SEEK JUSTICE- AND
TO HELP PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE
THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING TO
OTHER WOMEN AND FAMILIES. UP
AGAIN. MISS CURTIS WAS VERY
ACTIVE IN THE LITIGATION AND
WORKED ALONGSIDE MYSELF AND
OTHERS THAT ARE FIRM I TO SEEK
JUSTICE IN THIS CASE BUT
UNFORTUNATELY WE RAN HEADLONG
INTO. THIS PROCEDURAL LOOPHOLE
THAT STOPPED THIS CASE IN ITS
TRACKS IN THE CALIFORNIA STATE
COURTS. NOW MISS CURTIS AND THE
OTHER SIX HUNDRED OR SO VICTIMS
OF THIS TANK FAILURE NONE OF
THEM SIGNED AN ARBITRATION
AGREEMENT WITH THE TANK
MANUFACTURER. NEVERTHELESS THE
TANK MANUFACTURER SOUGHT TO
COMPEL ALL OF THESE VICTIMS OUT
OF THE STATE COURT PROCEEDINGS
AND INTO A PRIVATE ARBITRATION
ARBITRATION AGREEMENT
ARBITRATION PROCEEDINGS. I ONCE
A JUDGE JACKSON DENIED THAT
ORDER THEY APPEALED THAT ORDER
AND IT TOTALLY TIED JUDGE
JACKSON'S HAND SHE COULD NOT
PROCEED WITH THE CASE AT ALL.
AND THE CASE HAD TO BE STAYED
FOR YEARS IN FACT AS I SAID
MARCH ELEVENTH TWENTY EIGHTEEN
IS WHEN MY A CURTIS FOUND OUT
ABOUT THIS. IT WASN'T UNTIL
JANUARY OF THIS YEAR FIVE YEARS
LATER. THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO GO
BACK INTO STATE COURT AND JUST
GET STARTED IN LITIGATION AFTER
THE COURT OF APPEALS. AFFIRMED
THAT RULING AND OF COURSE THE
MANUFACTURE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT
ORAL ARGUMENT JUST GOES TO SHOW
HOW MUCH THEY STOOD BEHIND THEIR
OWN POSITION. NOW THAT COURT
DELAY HAD PROFOUND IMPACTS
BEYOND JUST THE LACK OF
CONFIDENCE IN OUR COURT SYSTEM.
FOR VICTIMS LIKE MAYA YOU CAN
PAUSE LITIGATION BUT YOU CANNOT
POSSIBLY A LOGICAL CLOCK FOR ALL
OF THESE VICTIMS. THEY CONTINUE
TO SUFFER A LOSS AND DECLINE OF
THEIR FOR TWO. THANK YOU MISS
LONDON THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
OTHER WOODS IS IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU CHAIR- BIRD MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TESTIFY MY NAME IS MATT GOLDBERG
I'M THE CHIEF ATTORNEY OF THE
WORK PROTECTION TEAM AT THE SAN
FRANCISCO CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE. CITY ATTORNEY DAVID CHIU
SENSES REGARDS TO ALL OF YOU-
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS THE OFFICES
STRONG SUPPORT FOR SB THREE
SIXTY FIVE IT IS A MODEST BUT
ESSENTIAL BILL THAT WILL ADDRESS
A GROWING. REAL WORLD PROBLEMS
THE ISSUE IMPACTS ALL LITIGANTS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND YOU'VE
ALREADY HEARD A VERY COMPELLING.
EXAMPLE OF THAT I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT HOW THIS IS BEEN
PLAYING OUT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR
WHERE THE TACTICS ARE
PARTICULARLY ABSURD. AND THE
OUTCOMES PARTICULARLY DAMAGING.
HERE IN CALIFORNIA AS YOU WELL
KNOW A WIDE RANGE OF GOVERNMENT
ENTITIES. CITIES COUNTIES D.
A.'S STATE AGENCIES FILE
LAWSUITS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC
CASES COMBATING CONSUMER FRAUD
WAGE THEFT ENVIRONMENTAL
DEGRADATION IT'S SUCH A- WHILE
THESE CASES ARE DESIGNED TO
BENEFIT AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC
THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES DO NOT
FORMALLY REPRESENTS ANY VICTIMS.
GOVERNMENT ENTITIES OF COURSE
HAVE NOT SIGNED ANY ARBITRATION
AGREEMENTS WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE
NOT BOUND BY ANY SUCH
AGREEMENTS. THE CORPORATE
DEFENDANTS NONE THE LESS SEEK TO
COMPEL THE GOVERNMENT INTO
ARBITRATION THEY HAVE DONE SO
SEVERAL TIMES IN RECENT YEARS
COVERING SOME HIGH PROFILE CASES
UP AND DOWN THE STATE FILED BY.
PUBLIC SECTOR ENTITIES IMPACTING
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
WORKERS. AND THE PROCESS AND THE
OUTCOMES ARE THE SAME IN EVERY
INSTANCE. DEFENDANTS FILE THESE
BASELESS MOTIONS THEY LOOSE.
THEY APPEALING GONNA STAY. AND
THEN EVENTUALLY LAY THOSE THEIR
APPEALS. BUT BY THAT POINT THE
DAMAGE OF COURSE IS ALREADY DONE
THE CASES HAVE BEEN DELAYED
UPWARDS OF A COUPLE YEARS. AND
THIS IS PARTICULARLY EGREGIOUS
IN THESE CASES DESIGNED TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC OFTEN OUR
MOST VULNERABLE AND AT RISK
RESIDENTS. FOR EXAMPLE TO DENY A
LOW WAGE WORKER THEIR EARNED
WAGES. CAN OFTEN HAVE CALAMITOUS
IMPACTS ON A FAMILY. INCLUDING A
QUICK RESPONSE TO JUST SOME OF
THE OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THE
BILL DOES NOT RUN AFOUL OF
FEDERAL LAW OR IN ANY WAY
DISADVANTAGED VALID ARBITRATION
AGREEMENTS. FEDERAL LAW INSURERS
THAT ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS ARE
HERE TO STAY. BUT YOU THE
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE GET TO
DECIDE THE PROCEDURAL RULES THAT
GOVERN LAWSUITS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH CALIFORNIA COURTS ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU I'M JUST PLEASED TO
SEE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE IS CONTINUING TO FUNCTION
EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF SENATOR
WIENER. JEFF HELLO LESTER JOB
WE'RE DOING ABOUT ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OF THOSE
IN SUPPORT. YOUR NAME YOUR
POSITION AND YOUR AFFILIATION.
MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS MEREKA
YOSHIHARA ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PLAY MILLERS
ASSOCIATION PROUD CO SPONSOR.
ALSO WAS ASKED TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR U. S. C. W. WESTERN
STATES COUNCIL AND SMART JUSTICE
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU THANK YOU.
HELLO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
AND SAMANTHA GORDON WITH
TECHNICALLY COLLABORATIVE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
LEGISLATION THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON JUSTIN ROWS ON BEHALF
OF ATTORNEY GENERAL BONTA PROPER
SPONSOR THANK YOU YOU. MISTER
CHAIRMAN FOR THE COMMITTEE
SHOULD INVESTMENT ON BEHALF OF
THE TEAMSTERS UNITE HERE AT
UTILITY WORKERS UNION OF AMERICA
IN THE MACHINISTS ALL SUPPORT.
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT
SAYING NO ONE ELSE APPROACH IN
MICHAEL ARE THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
OF THOSE WHICH TESTS WERE IN
OPPOSITION WAS MAKAYLA GO AHEAD
CLOSURES YES MISTER CHAIRMAN
FIRST CHRISTMAS CEILIDH ON
BEHALF OF SHERMAN THE HOLLYWOOD
CHAMBER. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
PREEMPTION IF I COULD- TO BEGIN
WITH YES STATES ARE ALLOWED TO
REGULATE UNDER THEIR GENERAL
CONTRACT PRINCIPLES. ARBITRATION
HOWEVER HERE'S WHERE THE ISSUE
LIES. SB NINE ONE OR EXCUSE ME
CCP SECTION NINE ONE SIX IS
GENERALLY APPLICABLE WITH ALL
DUE RESPECT I'VE HEARD THE TERM-
FRIVOLOUS AND LOOPHOLE USED HERE
I WOULD HOPE THAT- ANY
LITIGANTS- UTILIZING FRIVOLOUS
MOTIONS ARE PROPERLY SANCTIONED.
OF THE LAW CLEARLY ALLOWS THIS
SO IT'S NOT A LOOPHOLE THIS BILL
WOULD ADD ONE SENTENCE A
NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE- BUT THIS
IS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IT IS
NOT A GENERAL CONTRACT
APPLICATION. BECAUSE IT SINGLES
OUT ARBITRATION SPECIFICALLY AND
ONLY MAKES ARBITRATION EXEMPTED
FROM CCP SECTION NINE ONE SIX.
THE U. S. SUPREME COURT HAS SAID
OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON WHETHER
THE STATUTE EITHER ON ITS FACE
OR AS APPLIED IMPOSES BURDENS ON
ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS THAT DO
NOT APPLY. TO CONTRACTS
GENERALLY. THE COURT IS ALL
REPEATEDLY SAID AND YOU KNOW
THIS BILL IS A- ANOTHER MEASURE
LONG SOUGHT- DIFFERENT
VARIATIONS AGAINST ARBITRATION
THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS PURSUED
WHICH REPEATEDLY GET STRUCK DOWN
BY THE FEDERAL COURTS MOST
RECENTLY AB FIFTY ONE BY THE
NINTH CIRCUIT. AS PREEMPTED BY
THE FAA THE U. S. SUPREME COURT
AND HERE'S AN IMPORTANT POINT
SAYS IT'S A THE FAA EMBODIES A
LIBERAL FEDERAL POLICY FAVORING
ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS HERE'S
THE KEY PHRASE. NOT WITHSTANDING
ANY STATE SUBSTANTIVE OR
PROCEDURAL POLICIES TO THE CAN'T
CONTRARY SO EVEN IF A STATE
STATUTE IS. CONSIDERED TO BE
GENERALLY APPLICABLE ACROSS THE
BOARD THE FAA STILL APPROVE OF
PREEMPTS IT IF IT INTERFERES
WITH FUNDAMENTAL ATTRIBUTES OF
ARBITRATION OR HAS A
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON
ARBITRATION. THIS BILL SINGLES
OUT ARBITRATION FOR THIS
DIFFERENT TREATMENT FROM
EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER SECTION A
CCP NINE ONE SIX AND THEREFORE
WE BELIEVE IT'S FEDERALLY
PREEMPTED THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
. OTHERS IN OPPOSITION. HI GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
ACTUALLY HOFFMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSITION. I'M AS MR KELLY
STATED CCP NINE ONE SIX APPLIES
TO FAR MORE THAN ARBITRATION AND
IT STAYS TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
PENDING APPEAL THE INTENT OF
THIS WHICH IS A LONG STANDING IS
TO PRESERVE THE APPELLATE
COURT'S JURISDICTION AND ENSURE
THAT THE TRIAL COURT IS NOT
DOING ANYTHING. THAT WOULD
DISRUPT THE APPEAL WHICH
INCLUDES WHERE THE VERY PURPOSE
OF THE APPEAL IS TO AVOID THE
NEED FOR THE PROCEEDING. EVEN IF
SECTION NINE ONE SIX DID NOT
EXIST TRIAL COURT JUDGES HAVE
HISTORICALLY HAD THE RIGHT TO
HAVE DISCRETION TO STAY
PROCEEDINGS AND TO RUN THEIR
COURTROOM AS THEY SEE FIT. SB
THREE SIXTY FIVE WOULD PROHIBIT
A STAY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE
I'M EVEN TAKING AWAY THAT TRIAL
COURT JUDGES DISCRETION WHICH
WOULD FORCE THE TRIAL COURT TO-
POTENTIALLY WASTE COURT
RESOURCES AND PARTY TIME AND
RESOURCES GOING THROUGH A TRIAL
THAT ENDS UP BEING MOOTED BY THE
RESULT OF THE APPEAL. I
PROPONENTS THINK THE PICTURE
THAT EVERY APPEAL OF IT AND I'LL
TALK MOTION TO COMPEL IS
FRIVOLOUS- WHICH WE ARE FOR
DELAY WHICH WE STRONGLY DISPUTE.
IN FACT A CASE IS PENDING BEFORE
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
RIGHT NOW IN WHICH THE
UNDERLYING ISSUE REGARDING THE
DENIAL MOTION COMPELLED OFTEN
JUDGES SAID THIS IS A VERY CLOSE
CALL AND THEY WOULD NOT BE
SURPRISED IF THEY WERE REVERSED
ON APPEAL. WHAT ARE THE KEY IN
THAT CASE ACTUALLY CITED OVER
NINETY NINE CASES. IN WHICH THE-
COURT OF APPEALS HAS OVERTURNED
A TRIAL COURT'S DENIAL OF A
MOTION TO COMPEL ARBITRATION.
AND IN THAT BRIEF DICTATES ALL
OF THE LABORIOUS DISCOVERY THE
DOWNWARD MOTIONS AND OTHER
PRACTICE MOTION PRACTICE THAT
THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH.
UNNECESSARILY WITH ALL TWO
MILLION THE TRIAL FOR THE POPE
COURT REVERSED. AND THEN
FINALLY- AS MR KELLY STATED IF
THERE TRULY IS A FRIVOLOUS
APPEAL. THERE ARE THREE
DIFFERENT PROCEDURAL MECHANISM
YOU CAN BRING- PROMOTIONS TO GET
SANCTIONS USING COSTS. AND
FINALLY THE PROPONENTS POINT TO
THE FACT TO THAT. EMPLOYEES AND
CONSUMERS COULD NOT IMMEDIATELY
APPEAL A MOTION TO COMPEL.
ARBITRATION IF IT'S GRANTED AND
THAT IS TRUE- SO MY QUESTION TO
YOU IS WE NOT THEN PER. A MEAL
TO RIGHT- TO IMMEDIATELY APPEAL
AND SAID OF COURSE IN THE COURTS
AND PARTIES FOR THANK YOUS
COVERING TRIAL. IF THE APPEAL
COULD RUN OUR THANK YOU MISS
HOFFMAN THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON I'M GAIL DELL HAT WITH
WESTERN GROWERS IS SO
ASSOCIATION OR WERE IN
OPPOSITION. RETURN MEMBERS MIKE
BELOVED FOR THE CALIFORNIA
DEFENSE COUNSEL IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON RHINELANDER THE
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU. JAMIE
HAVE WITH THE CIVIL JUSTICE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU YOU.
AFTERNOON MATT SUDDENLY
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON MELANIE CUEVAS OF THE
CALIFORNIA BANKERS ASSOCIATION
ON RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH SINGLE ELSE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM IF WE TURN THE PHONE LINES.
MATTER IF YOU TWO OF THOSE IN
SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION TO- S.
B. THREE SIX FIVE AND I SHOULD
NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE
RECEIVE THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY
OF. MY A CURTIS THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SUPPORTER OPPOSITION YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO FOR
SUPPORT. OR OPPOSITION. AND
WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE OF FORTY
NINE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
ACTORS. THE MEMBERS THAT'S THE
CENTER ON BEHALF OF EQUAL RIGHTS
ADVOCATES IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
THANK YOU MEXICO LINE ONE THIRTY
TWO YOUR LINE IS OPEN. AND
HAVING COME OUT FOR THE
CALIFORNIA LEGAL FOOD PRODUCERS
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK
YOU. THANK YOU NOT TO GO TO LINE
FORTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE BRYAN
LITTLE CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. RIGHT THANK YOU NEXT WE'LL GO
TO LINE ONE AT THIRTY NINE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HI THIS IS TRICIA
CHAPARRAL CONSTITUENT OF SAN
FRANCISCO I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MEXICO LINE EIGHTY FIVE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. NINE EIGHTY FIVE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. AND WILL MOVE
ON TO LINE UP ONE OH EIGHT YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. ONE ONE OH EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO HELLO.
YES GO AHEAD. YOU HEAR ME. YES
WE CAN GO AHEAD. I CHOSE THIS
BILL MY NAME IS READY IF HE'S
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR WE HAVE NO FURTHER
OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT IN Q. ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU LET'S BRING BACK
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS COMMENTS.
YES SENATE SB. I THINK THERE'S
CERTAINLY A CLEAR VALUE IN
REMOVING BARRIERS TO TIMELY
JUSTICE WHICH I BELIEVE TO BE
THE AUTHOR'S INTENT OF THIS BILL
AND NOBLE AND WORTHY- GOAL. I DO
HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE
BROADER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
THAT WE HEARD ABOUT FROM SOME OF
THE OPPOSITION TODAY. BUT I ALSO
KNOW THAT YOU ARE VERY HARD
WORKER HÌNH YOUR LEGISLATION SO
I'M ABOUT YESTERDAY PUT IT
THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE BERMAN
OUT WATCH FOR HOW YOU ARE
ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ISSUES
BEFORE WE SEE IT AGAIN AND I
JUST WANNA TELL YOU NOW. THANK
YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS
SEEING THE BILL- CENTER ALAN
YEAH I JUST LIKE TO GET A- A
BETTER SENSE OF FROM THE AUTHOR
YOU WOULD WHICH IS A RESPONSE TO
SOME OF THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN
RAISED BY THE BY THE OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WITH REGARDS TO. ALL
OF THE APPEALS THAT OF- AND
SUCCESSFUL AND IN THE EXTENT TO
WHICH- THIS IS GOING TO MARK UP
CURRENT PROCESS. I THINK WE NEED
TO BE CLEAR THAT THE THEIR
AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO APPEAL. I'M
THE NILE MOTION THERE WE'RE NOT
REQUIRED. TO DO THAT THAT'S THE
CREATION OF THE CODE OF CIVIL
PROCEDURE REBRANDED THEM NOT
RIGHT. TO AUTOMATIC APPEAL- AND
THAT WE WERE NOT REQUIRED- TO DO
THAT- AND SO THE I DON'T RESULT.
SO AFFECTED LEE. SCULPTING WHAT
THAT RATE IS COMPLETELY WITHIN
OUR PURVIEW SO WE DON'T WE JUST
DON'T AGREE THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW
PREEMPTED BY THE FAA- BY THE
FEDERAL ARBITRATION. ACT YOU
KNOW I KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE
CONTINUING YOU KNOW DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT THIS BILL AND WE LOOK
FORWARD. TO THAT BUT RIGHT NOW
IT IS SO ONE SIDED. RIGHT
CONSUMERS DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO
AN AUTOMATIC APPEAL THEY HAVE TO
SEEK A WRIT OF MANDATE WHICH IS
REALLY GROUNDED. IF ARBITRATION
HAS BEEN COMPELLED AND THEY
THINK IT WAS INACCURATE AND THEN
THEY'RE STUCK IN ARBITRATION
PROCESS VERY ONE SIDED TO BEGIN
WITH. ONLY THE PERSON SEEKING
ARBITRATION HAS A RIGHT
AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO APPEAL BUT
THE ONLY ONES. AND ALL WE'RE
SAYING. IS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T.
STAY THE UNDERLYING PROCEEDINGS
IF A JUDGE HAS ALREADY RULED
THAT THERE IS NO ARBITRATION
REQUIREMENT THAT'S THAT'S ALL
WE'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND-
THE OPPOSITION DOESN'T LIKE THAT
I GET THE AND WILL CONTINUE TO
HAVE CONVERSATIONS- BUT THAT'S
THAT'S OUR- I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S
MY- THAT'S MY TAKE ON. RIGHT NOW
THE MILIEU ALLOWING THE
PROCEEDING TO MOVE FORWARD
OBVIOUSLY IF THE APPEAL IS
GRANTED THAN. I GUESS YOU YOU
WELL THERE'S A- LOT OF PEOPLE
COME TO TERMS FEES AT THAT POINT
PUT- I. DIDN'T DO WE GET DATA
ABOUT THE NUMBER. OF THE NUMBER
OF- THE PILLS THAT ARE
ULTIMATELY SUCCESSFUL. I DON'T
SEE THAT IT AYE AYE MA'AM THEY
MISSED AN EMAIL SAID I DON'T I
DON'T KNOW THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE- OKAY.
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SENATE
ALLEN- JUST JUST A COUPLE
COMMENTS- FIRST OFF ALL APPEALS
ARE NOT EQUAL WELL SOME OF THE
SOME APPEALS ARE. MUCH MORE
MERITORIOUS THAN OTHERS AND I
APPRECIATE UP MISS HOFFMAN
ACKNOWLEDGING THE ASYMMETRY HERE
IN THE SITUATION. WHERE A MOTION
TO COMPEL WHICH IS THE NIGHT YOU
GET AN AUTOMATIC APPEAL- I DID
MY OWN RESEARCH WHICH OF COURSE
IS DANGEROUS- CONCERNING. YOU
KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET
THOSE ISSUES RESOLVED ON APPEAL
I THOUGHT IT WAS BETWEEN ONE AND
THREE YEARS AND NOW I'VE JUST
HEARD ACTUALLY AT LEAST ONE
INSTANCE WHERE IT'S FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT THAT IS A CONCERN I MEAN
YOU KNOW THERE'S OF EXPRESSION
THAT JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE
DENIED IN A AND I THINK THAT-
FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS A LONG
TERM DENIAL. DOES WORK IN
INJUSTICE AND I THINK THIS IS
SORT OF FUNDAMENTALLY UNFIT NOT
SORT IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR
TERMS OF THE ASYMMETRY. OF
HAVING SAID THAT I DO HAVE A
CONCERN ABOUT IN CENTER WIENER
AND I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS- ABOUT.
ACTUALLY GOING TO TRIAL ACTUALLY
GOING TO TRIAL IN HIM IN THE
COURT OF APPEAL ULTIMATELY
REVERSED A LOWER COURT AND
FINDING THAT THAT TRIAL WAS IN
ESSENCE FOR NOT DISCOVERY. CAN
BE USED DISCOVERY THAT'S
DEVELOPED- IN ANTICIPATION OF AN
ACTUAL TRIAL CAN BE USED IN
ARBITRATION. PERHAPS NOT THE
REVERSE BUT TRIAL TESTIMONY AND
THE ACTUAL TRIAL IN THE JUDGMENT
THEN IS- BASICALLY IS THROWN OUT
IN IN IS OF. NO BENEFIT BUT IT
COSTS THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT TO
ALL OF US IN TERMS OF. JUDICIAL
RESOURCES AND TIME AND ENERGY
AND EXPENSE ON THE PARTIES SO-
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME SORT
OF MECHANISM WHERE AS YOU
APPROACH TRIAL THAT THAT THERE'S
AT LEAST AN OPPORTUNITY. TO
DELAY THAT TRIAL AND TO YOU HEAR
FROM THE COURT OF APPEALS SO
IT'S- OUGHT NOT ALL FOR NOT. NOT
THIS DELAY DISCOVERY ALLOWED
DISCOVERY TO GO ALL THE WAY
THROUGH. EVEN NEXT- DEPOSITIONS
ALL OF THE- PERHAPS NOT THE
ULTIMATE ULTIMATE TRIAL. SO I AM
GOING TO SUPPORT IT I KNOW THAT
SENATOR WIENER AS CENTER ASHLEY
POINTS OUT WORKS VERY HARD AND
IS VERY DILIGENT ABOUT COMING TO
A PLACE THAT IS- CONSENSUS
DRIVEN AS IS POSSIBLE SO. HAVING
SAID THAT- THERE'S BEEN A MOTION
BY SENATOR MEN DO CARE CLOSE
RESPONDING CLOSING FOR. THANK
YOU THANK YOU ARE MISTER
CHAIRMAN YOU HAVE AS WE
DISCUSSED YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT
THAT WILL CONTINUE. TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND WITH
THE COMMITTEE- ARE ON THIS ISSUE
IN PARTICULAR WITH THE ISSUE
THAT YOU THAT YOU REYES I CAN'T
MAKE ANY COMMITMENTS. TODAY THIS
IS ALL VERY BECAUSE OF THE
FEDERAL ARBITRATION ACT- WE
HAVE- IT TO PROVIDES A LOT OF
ANALYSIS. TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY.
YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT WE'RE
PROPOSING IS GOING TO BE
COMPLIANT WITH FEDERAL LAW WE
WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL- ABOUT
THAT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING PARTICULARLY. YOU
KNOW WITH WITH SOME LEVEL OF
DISCRETION FOR OUR COURTS AS
THEY APPROACH TRIAL BUT- BUT
AGAIN I CAN'T MAKE HIM TODAY
BUT- WE DO. OTHER THAN TO
COMMIT- TO. WORKING WITH YOU ON
ON THESE ON THESE ISSUES- SO
CALLED THANK YOU FOR THE
THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION TODAY
I'M I'M NOT GOING TO SUGGEST
THAT THESE ISSUES ARE. SOMEHOW
EASY- AND WHATEVER ONE'S VIEWS
ARE ON ARBITRATION SIMPLE LOVE
ARBITRATION SUBWAY HIT
ARBITRATION I MEAN WE CAN ALL
AGREE- THAT THAT PEOPLE SHOULD
HAVE. A RIGHT. TO HAVE THE DATE
THAT THEY'VE BEEN WRONG THEY'RE
THEY'RE ALLEGING THEY'VE BEEN
WRONG TO HAVE THAT THE JUDICATA.
AND IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION.
POTENTIALLY WHERE YOU CAN EVEN
SIGN AN ARBITRATION AGREEMENT-
AND A CUENTA COURT HAS HEARD THE
MOTION. TO COMPEL ARBITRATION
AND DENIED IT. SO JUDGES ALREADY
THAT THERE NO RIGHT OR BUT- IT'S
NOT ON. TO LET THE CASE MOVE
FORWARD. AS THEY EXERCISE
WHATEVER POWER RIGHTS THEY HAVE
TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO COMPEL
ARBITRATION I THINK THE BILL
DOES STRIKE A GOOD BALANCE WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS-
ABOUT WHETHER THAT BALANCE NEEDS
TO BE. A TWEAK HERE THERE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
ALREADY THANK YOU. A MINUTE
SIXTY IF YOU CALL THE ROLL. THIS
IS FILE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY FOUR
SB THREE SIXTY FIVE MOTIONS AND
PASSED THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. UMBERG HI NUMBER
AYE WILK NO WILL CANNELLA ALLEN.
ALLEN AYE ASHBY. ASHBY I'D
RUSSELL RUSSELL I LAYERED.
MCGUIRE IN. MEN ONLINE THE LOW.
STERN WIENER AYE WIENER I. YOU
HAVE FIFTY ONE ALL RIGHT SIXTY
ONE WILL PUT THE BILL ON CALL- I
SEE JUST FOR HOUSEKEEPING
PURPOSES I SEE CENTER HER
DAUGHTER WAS HERE AND SHE WERE
DOING THINGS AND FOLLOW ORDERS
SO- SHE WOULD BE UP NEXT AND
THEN- CENTER ROTH. SENATE ROTH
IS ALSO HERE CENTER DONALD. SAN
ANTONIO S. B. A. TWO TO FOUR.
PLEASE OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FIRST AND FOREMOST I
WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR AND HIS
DEDICATED STAFF FOR- WORKING
WITH ME ON THIS BILL. I WILL BE
A STEP IN AMENDMENTS OUTLINED ON
PAGE ELEVEN OF THE COMMITTEES
AND ALICE'S. A MEMBERS AS YOU
KNOW THE WORLD IS FACING THE
GREATEST THREAT TO MANKIND YET.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS HERE AND IT IS
IMPACTING US IN WAYS THAT WE
DON'T SEE INCLUDING IMPACTS TO
OUR WATER AVAILABILITY. AND
SECURITY AND OUR FOOD SUPPLY.
PUT SCARCITY CAN CREATE SOCIAL
DISRUPTION THAT CAN LEAD TO
STATE FAILURE MIGRATION CRIME
AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. I
BELIEVE OF CALIFORNIANS WE CAN
OVERCOME THESE CLIMATE RELATED
CHALLENGES AND CONTINUE TO FEED
THE WORLD. WE NEED TO BE IN
CONTROL OVER OUR FOOD SUPPLY AND
SADLY WE ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO
PROTECT OUR OWN FOOD SECURITY.
GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT TWO
ACRES OF LAND ARE NEEDED TO FEED
A FAMILY OF FOUR. AND CALIFORNIA
HAS THE MOST FERTILE LAND IN THE
WORLD WITH ABOUT FORTY THREE
MILLION ACRES THAT ARE USED FOR
AGRICULTURE. BUT OVER THE PAST
FEW YEARS FOREIGN OWNERSHIP OF
CALIFORNIA'S AGRICULTURAL LAND
HAS STEADILY INCREASED BETWEEN
TWENTY NINETEEN AND TWENTY
TWENTY ONE CALIFORNIA LOST OVER
SEVENTY THOUSAND ACRES OF AG
LAND TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND
RELATED ENTITIES. FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS AND FOREIGN ENTITIES
NOW OWN AND CONTROL CLOSE TO ONE
POINT TWO MILLION ACRES OF
CALIFORNIA AG LAND ACROSS THE
STATE. CURRENT DISCLOSURE
REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE ON
THE SELF REPORTING BASIS AND
MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE UNDER
REPORTED. THIS IS THE THIS IS
ONLY ONE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
ILLICIT FINANCE IN THE USE OF
SHELL COMPANIES TO PURCHASE REAL
ESTATE IN THE U. S. INCLUDING
ICLOUD MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE
CHALLENGING TO HAVE A REAL
UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROBLEM AT
HAND. BUT AS THE CORPORATE
TRANSPARENCY ACT GOES INTO PLACE
NEXT YEAR AND THE DATA IS
UPDATED IT IS MY HOPE THAT S. B.
TWO TWO FOUR WILL GIVE US THE
TRUE SENSE OF OUR FOOD SECURITY
STATUS. AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO
GET AHEAD OF THE ISSUE. THIS
BILL IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE NATION
. POLICY MAKERS IN TWENTY FOUR
OTHER STATES HAVE INTRODUCED
LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THIS
GROWING CONCERN. THIS ISSUE IS
NOT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT
ISSUE. THIS IS A BIPARTISAN
ISSUE THAT IMPACTS US ALL. THIS
IS WHY BIPARTISAN EFFORTS IN
CONGRESS ARE ALSO UNDERWAY. THIS
IS AN ISSUE ABOUT FOOD SECURITY
FOR YOU FOR ME FOR CONSTITUENTS
AND FOR THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
WE FEET ACROSS THE WORLD. IT IS
ALSO AN ISSUE OF WATER SECURITY
. JUST TODAY BLOOMBERG GREEN
RELEASED THEIR FINDINGS UNDER
INVESTIGATION GROUNDWATER
GROUNDWATER TITLED. WALL STREET
IS TURNING WATER INTO WEALTH
LEAVING CALIFORNIANS OUT TO DRY
. AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU
FOR THEIR FINDINGS AND I'M GOING
TO SAVE HER VERBATIM. FIRST
SINCE TWENTY TEN SIX MAJOR
INVESTORS HAVE QUADRUPLED THEIR
FARMLAND UNDER MANAGEMENT IN
CALIFORNIA. TO ALMOST A HUNDRED
AND TWENTY THOUSAND ACRES IN
ALL. EQUIVALENT TO A THIRD OF
ALL CROPLAND IN THE STATE OF
CONNECTICUT. THESE COMPANIES
HAVE FUELED THE GROWTH OF
PERMANENT CROPS. SECOND SINCE
THE START OF TWENTY NINETEEN.
ONE OF EVERY SIX OF THE DEEPEST
WELLS IN THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY.
HAS BEEN DRILLED ON LAND OWNED
OR MANAGED BY OUTSIDE INVESTORS
. OF THE TOP THREE TO OUR
INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS. THIRD
THIS LAND GRAB HAS GIVEN RISE TO
GRAB OF AN EVEN SCARE. IT SCARES
HER A GLOBAL COMMODITY WATER. IN
A BID TO ENSURE THRIVING
INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO SOME OF THE
WORLD'S LARGEST FINANCIAL
ENTITIES HAVE AMASSED CONTROL
OVER LAKES. RIVERS AND
UNDERGROUND AQUIFERS IN PLACES
FROM CALIFORNIA TO AFRICA
AUSTRALIA TO SOUTH AMERICA.
GIVING THEM OUTSIZE ROLES AND
MANAGING AN ENDANGERED RESOURCE
THAT THE BASIS. OF LIFE ON EARTH
. FOURTH AMONG THE MOST ACTIVE
DRILLERS ALONG THE CALIFORNIA
ATWOOD DUCKS THINKING MID
SECTION IS CANADA'S PUBLIC
SECTOR PENSION INVESTMENT BOARD.
ALSO KNOWN AS PSP INVESTMENTS.
THE SINKING MID SECTION IS
EXPECTED TO COST NINE HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX. SO DO WE
LET IT CONTINUE ON. SHOULD WE
CONTINUE TO GIVE TAX BREAKS. THE
DAMAGE OF THE FROM OVER PUMPING
THAT COMES FROM FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS UNDER ENTITIES
SHOULD NOT BE AT THE COST OF
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS. LAST YEAR
MEXICO PURCHASED A CONTROLLING
INTEREST OF ONE OF THE LARGEST
REFINERIES IN TEXAS. AS THEY
WORK TOWARDS OUR GOAL TO BECOME
ENERGY INDEPENDENT. IN
CALIFORNIA ONE OF THE LARGEST
OIL PRODUCERS WAS PURCHASED BY.
A CANADIAN GOVERNMENT OWNED
PENSION FUND. THE ISSUE AT HAND
IS NOT UNIQUE TO OUR NATION. THE
GUARDIAN REPORTED LAST YEAR THAT
72% OF ENGLAND'S WATER WAS OWNED
BY SHAREHOLDERS IN SEVENTEEN
FOREIGN COUNTRIES. 10%
CONTROLLED BY COMPANIES IN THE
UK AND 18% IS UNACCOUNTED. FOR
AND LAST YEAR CANADA IMPLEMENTED
A TWO YEAR BAN ON THE PURCHASE
OF PROPERTY BY FOREIGN INTEREST
. TO BE CLEAR. THIS BILL DOES
NOT SEEK TO TARGET SPECIFIC
COUNTRIES BUT INSTEAD PROVIDES A
NEUTRAL APPROACH TO A GROWING
ISSUE. THIS BILL IS ABOUT THE
DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE
CALIFORNIA. NOW I WISH MY BILL
COULD DO MUCH MORE BUT I
RECOGNIZE THAT THE BIG HURDLE TO
GET A SIMPLE BILL PASSED. AND AS
A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANT PARENTS
I RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE AND
CONTRIBUTIONS THAT FOREIGN
INVESTMENT IN IMMIGRANTS MAKE.
FOR THIS NATION AND MY INTENTION
IS NOT TO PRIMARY OR BLOCK THAT
. BUT TO MAKE INFORMED POLICY
DECISIONS WE NEED TRANSPARENCY
IN BOLD STEPS TO PROTECT OUR
STATE'S INTEREST. THIS BILL DOES
THAT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP
TOWARD GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND
THIS BILL HELPS AS THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CORPORATE
TRANSPARENCY ACT GOES INTO PLACE
NEXT YEAR. FINALLY I DO WANT TO
NOTE THAT A VERY SIMILAR VERSION
OF THIS BILL MOVED THROUGH THE
LEGISLATURE WITH- NEAR UNANIMOUS
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. AND THE
PRESENTLY MY OFFICE AND I ARE
WORKING TO ADDRESS THE
GOVERNOR'S CONCERNS EXPRESSED IN
LAST YEAR'S BEETLE MESSAGE. AND
WITH THAT- I DON'T HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL BUT I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE. ALL RIGHT- THOSE
WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
IN THE HEARING ROOM IF YOU
APPROACH MIKE FROM. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ANTHONY HELTON
WITH THE CALIFORNIA LAND TITLE
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT FOR THE
AUTHORS ACCEPTING OF THE-
LANGUAGE ADDRESSING ISSUES
RELATED TO TITLE TO REAL
PROPERTY. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN VERSE OF THE
COMMITTEE JENNIFER SPOKE ABOUT
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS PLEASED TO BE HERE IN
SUPPORT IS SUPPOSED TO BE
AMENDED WITH ME ANALYSIS THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS NAY WE'VE
DRAWN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CREDIT UNION LEAGUE
ALSO IN SUPPORT WITH THE
AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. OTHERS IN
SUPPORT PLEASE BROOCH MICROPHONE
SING KNOWN APPROACHING MY FROM
THOSE IN OPPOSITION. OF GO AHEAD
. MISTER CHAIRMAN VERS OF THE
COMMITTEE- LOUIS BROWN TODAY
HERE ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
CITRUS MUTUAL CALIFORNIA FRESH
FRUIT ASSOCIATION. CALVARY
COTTON GENERATION GROWERS
ASSOCIATION WESTERN AGRICULTURAL
PROCESSORS ASSOCIATION HOW WE'RE
HERE OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. UP
WE COMPLETELY SHARE THE CONCERNS
IN THE INTENT. OF THIS BILL WITH
THE AUTHOR. WE DO HAVE CONCERNS
THE WITH IT- AS IT GOES FORWARD
IN JUST. A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT
COULD BE CREATED- FROM US IN THE
AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY FIRST WANT
TO JUST COMPLETELY COMPLEMENT-
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THE VERY
THOROUGH ANALYSIS. AND WE WOULD
AGREES THAT- THERE'S PROBABLY
INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE
GATHERED ON THIS ISSUE ACCORDING
TO THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS ABOUT
TWO POINT 7% OF THE LANDING
CALIFORNIA THE AGRICULTURAL LAND
MAY BE OWNED BY SOME FOREIGN
INTEREST. SO THE ELEMENT OF
COULD COLLECTING DATA TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS A REAL
ISSUE HERE HAS SOME MERIT AND WE
THINK WE COULD PROBABLY BE BEST
SUITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
COLLECTION OF THAT DATA BEFORE
WE DO JUST ANY TYPE OF. HEART
PROHIBITION ON THE INVESTMENT IN
LAND. CALIFORNIA AGRICULTURE IS
A GLOBAL ECONOMY. WE PARTNER
WITH COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE
WORLD AND ARE PROUD OF THAT
BECAUSE THE ADVANCEMENTS WE'VE
BEEN MADE THAT BEEN MADE DUE TO
THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. SHE
CONCERNED THAT IF WE GO FORWARD
WITH A PROHIBITION LIKE THIS THE
CHILLING EFFECT IT WOULD HAVE ON
THE ADVANCEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY.
OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH GLOBAL
PARTNERS- ACROSS THE WORLD AND
SO WE THINK THAT RIGHT NOW
ESPECIALLY FOR OUR INTERESTS THE
BILL IS JUST TOO AGGRESSIVE-
WITH EITHER LIKE TO SEE IT
NARROWED TO FOCUS ON THOSE.
COUNTRIES THAT ARE TRULY A
THREAT- TO OUR ECONOMY OUR
GLOBAL ECONOMY OUR OUR UNITED
STATES ECONOMY OR SIMPLY. RACKET
BACK TO BE SOMETHING THAT
COLLECTS DATA TO IDENTIFY WHERE
THE PROBLEMS ARE AND THEN WE
HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW WE
MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SO FOR
THOSE REASONS WERE OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED THANK YOU RIGHT THANK
YOU MISTER BROWN OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION. THAT IS ALL WE HONOR
WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF THE SPRING FOR
ONE EXAMPLE. I EIGHT OF THE TOP
TEN C. COMPANIES IN THE WORLD
HAVE RESEARCH FACILITIES HERE IN
CALIFORNIA SO YOU OWN PROPERTY
HERE IN CALIFORNIA PRIMARILY
BECAUSE OF OUR OUTSTANDING
RESEARCH. SITUATION AS WELL AS
OF THE LAND AND OUR CLIMATE. SO
THERE INVEST IN THIS THE BILL
AND BRING IN RESEARCH FOR THE
ENTIRE INDUSTRY THANK YOU. AT
THIS POINT WHERE POST LAST MONTH
THANK THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION. AS CHAIR
SENATOR DINNER FEEL ON BEHALF OF
THE- BIOTECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY
ORGANIZATION. FOR THE REASONS
STATED WE TO HAVE AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION THANK
YOU. MISTER CHAMBERS CHRIS ROSE
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA'S ALSO
OPPOSED LESS AMENDED THANK YOU.
BRENDA BASS WITH CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ALSO OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED THANK YOU. OTHERS
WHO ARE OPPOSED IN THE HEARING
ROOM SEEING NO ONE ELSE BROOCH
MICROPHONE. A MODERATE LET'S
TURN TO THE PHONE LINES. FOR
THOSE WHO ARE. BOTH IN SUPPORT
AND IN OPPOSITION TO. S. B. TWO
TWO FOUR. THANK YOU VERY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN THEY'RE ALL
FOR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. WE'LL
GO TO LINE ONE OF FIFTY SIX YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. ONE ONE FIFTY
SEVEN MY LINEUP OPEN. I WAS NOT
FAMILIAR WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION WHITE GRAPE GROWERS
WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED THANK YOU THANK YOU.
THANK YOU WILL GO TO LINE ONE OH
EIGHT YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO
YES YOU'RE ON. YES I NEED THE
PORT WITH S. B. THANK YOU FOR
BRADY DSPS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NETWORK ALIGN ONE OF THIRTY NINE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI THE
PATRICIA JOHNSON CALLING FROM
SAN FRANCISCO THANK YOUR- HONOR
HER TADO FOR THIS VERY RELEVANT
BILL AND GETTING IT FORWARD AND
I FULLY SUPPORT IT AND- STOPPING
THE LAND GRAB OF FOREIGN
ENTITIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE
NO FURTHER SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
AND KILL. ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING
IT BACK TO COMMITTEE- CENTER MEN
- THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR- I WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
US FOR WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION-
THIS MORNING ABOUT THIS BILL.
I'M GONNA BE OPPOSING IT TODAY
FOR REASONS THAT DON'T REALLY
HAVE TO DO WITH THE TESTIMONY
HERE BUT- I JUST WANT TO MENTION
THAT I KNOW THAT THE AUTHOR'S
INTENT HERE IS. A SOLID THAT SHE
BELIEVES SHE'S ADDRESSING A REAL
POLICY PROBLEM. BUT AS VICE
CHAIR OF THE API LEGISLATIVE
CAUCUS AS AN ASIAN AMERICAN ONE
OF A HANDFUL IN THE LEGISLATURE
I WOULD BE- IT BLATANTLY
IGNORING MY- RESPONSIBILITIES MY
CONSTITUENTS THAT I JUST DIDN'T
REYES. THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE
SEEING ACROSS THE COUNTRY RIGHT
NOW IN CALIFORNIA OF ANTI ASIAN
HATE- WE SEEN LEGISLATURES
AROUND THE COUNTRY START TO.
AGGRESSIVELY PUSH LEGISLATION
DESIGNED TO BAN PEOPLE PEOPLE.
ARE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ARE
TARGETED PRIMARILY CHINA BUT
CERTAINLY OTHER COUNTRIES FROM
PURCHASING REAL ESTATE IN THIS
COUNTRY- TEXAS FLORIDA ARKANSAS
ARE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THESE
TYPES OF BILLS. A VIRGINIA NEW
JERSEY MISSOURI NORTH DAKOTA ARE
AMONG THE TYPE THAT CUT THE
STATE'S RIGHT NOW THAT ARE
CONSIDERING- BANDS OF THIS SORT
ON FOREIGN COMPANIES OR FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS PURCHASING LAND. I
AND JUST GIVEN THE HISTORY OF-
EXCLUSIONS ON ASIAN AND THE
YELLOW PERIL OUT OF. ASIANS
GRABBING LAND IN THIS COUNTRY
AND YOU HEAR THE RHETORIC HERE
WITH SOME OF THE CALLERS- YOU
KNOW WE HAVE AN UGLY HISTORY IN
THIS COUNTRY WEATHER WAS THE
PROHIBITIONS ON- THE ALIEN
LANDECK HERE IN CALIFORNIA THAT
WAS OVERTURNED IN NINETEEN FIFTY
TWO BY THE SUPREME COURT. AS A
VIOLATION FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT-
WE HAVE A HISTORY IN THE
NINETEEN EIGHTIES OF EFFORTS IN
THE STATES AND CONGRESS TO TRY
TO BAN- JAPANESE COMPANIES
JAPANESE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES
FROM PURCHASING LAND IN REAL
STATE IN THIS COUNTRY- AND JUST
GIVEN. YOU KNOW AND I BELIEVE
THAT A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF
EFFORTS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE
GONNA LEAD TO MORE ANTI ASIAN
HATE. I AND THAT REALLY HAS NOT
SUBSIDED EVEN AS WE'VE SEEN
MEDIA ACCOUNTS OF THAT'S OF
SIDE. I SO I THINK IF WE PASS
THIS BILL. THAT WE'RE GONNA BE
SENDING A SIGNAL TO THE COUNTRY
TO THE WORLD THE CALIFORNIA IS
JUMPING IN ON THE XENOPHOBIA AND
ANTI CHINA BASHING. THAT WE'VE
SEEN SO I REALIZE THAT YOUR
INTENTIONS ARE NOT THEIR OWN TO
BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT- BUT I JUST
THINK THAT GIVEN THE TIMING OF
WHAT WE'RE SEEING. WE'RE IN
THREE YEARS OF ANTI ASIAN HATE.
WE SEEN EFFORTS THAT ARE
DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO ATTACK
I CHINA WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF
RHETORIC ON CHINA- AND FOR THOSE
REASONS I JUST I'M GONNA BE
VOTING NOTED IT. OTHER COMMENTS
CENTER WIENER. YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN- SO AS THE AUTHOR KNOWS
I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL- LAST
YEAR- WHEN I KNOW IT'S SOMEWHAT.
MODIFIED BUT IT'S ALONG THE SAME
LINES I DO NOT SUPPORT A LAST
YEAR AND I. I WENT BACK IN AND
TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND I SERVED
MY VIEWS HAVEN'T- CHANGE ON I
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO- AND I. I'M SO I'M NOT- I
DON'T I'M NOT SAYING THAT
THERE'S NO FORM OF THIS BILL
THAT I COULD EVER. SUPPORTER
RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY BROAD AND
IT'S EITHER OWNED BY A FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT WERE CONTROLLED AND
CONTROL DOES NOT EVEN REQUIRE.
51% IT COULD BE A LESSER STATE
BUT THEY EFFECTIVELY CONTROL
AND- THERE ARE- WHEN WE LOOK AT
COMPANIES THAT. DO BUSINESS IN
CALIFORNIA. NOT US IN
AGRICULTURE BUT BETTER ACROSS
THE BOARD ARE PLENTY OF.
COMPANIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT
COMPANIES I KNOW I'M IN MY OWN
DISTRICT FOR EXAMPLE. ON DOT DOT
OUR OUR- THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF
CONTROL BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
AND THEY'RE- DOING VERY
IMPORTANT WORK- IN CALIFORNIA
AND SO THE- THE YOU COULD SEE
OUT. YOU KNOW. AN ITALIAN
COMPANY- CANADIAN COMPANY-
THAT'S DOING REALLY IMPORTANT
AGRICULTURAL RELATED WORK AND
OWNS. FIFTEEN OR TWENTY ONE SO.
ON FIFTEEN TWENTY ACRES OF LAND
TO DO. THAT WORK WHETHER IT'S
THE ACTUAL CULTIVATION OR
SOMETHING RELATING TO THEIR-
BUSINESS. OR AN ISRAELI COMPANY
I CAN GO ON LINE AND- AND- AND
THEY WOULD JUST BE.
CATEGORICALLY PROHIBITED FROM
FROM FROM OWNING THAT THAT LAND
SO- I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS- TODAY
I WILL CERTAINLY BE ON THE
LOOKOUT FOR IT- WHEN IT- WHEN IT
HITS THE FLOOR- I'M NOT LIKE
IT'S I'M NOT CATEGORICALLY
OPPOSED. BUT I WANT TO SEE HOW
IT- HOW IT EVOLVES. ALL RIGHTY-
CENTER B. YEAH THIS ONE'S HARD
I'VE- I'VE STOOD ON IT QUITE A
BIT BEYOND THAT. I JUST FEEL NOT
PREPARED TO VOTE YES BUT I ALSO
DON'T WANT TO VOTE NO SO. I
THINK I'M GONNA LAY OFF TODAY
AND CHARLIE MY MIND OPEN FOR
WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS COMMITTEE
AND IT COMES FORWARD THAT MAYBE
I CAN. MAYBE I CAN GET THERE
WITH YOU I'M NOT EVEN EXACTLY
SURE WHY IT MIGHT BE A SORT OF
THE SHADOW OF MY PREDECESSOR WHO
I THINK PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
STRONG FEELINGS AND- OR IT COULD
BE. I KEEP COMING BACK TO SOME
OF THE INVESTORS WHO HAVE BEEN
DOING GREAT THINGS IN THIS CITY
HAVE. HAVE COME FROM FROM
FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS IN
PARTICULARLY CHINA ACTUALLY
HELPING BUILD A HOSPITAL IN MY
DISTRICT AND SO I'M I'M
STRUGGLING WITH THAT A LITTLE
BIT BUT I ALSO DEEPLY RESPECT
YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO
IN YOUR SPEAKING SO PASSIONATELY
ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE. AND I AND I KNOW IT
AFFECTS YOU GREATLY SO I'M GONNA
KEEP MY MIND OPEN BUT TODAY I
THINK LAYOFF. ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU CENTER S. B. SENATE RUSSELL
YEAH I AM. YOU'RE LISTENING TO
EVERYBODY LISTEN TO YOUR
PRESENTATION IT'S LIKE WHOA I
DON'T WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF-
YOU KNOW ANY EFFORT THAT WOULD
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE. AS
YOU AS YOU SAID YOU KNOW. WE'RE
EITHER IMMIGRANTS OR WITH THE
KIDS OF IMMIGRANTS AND SO THAT
COULD MEAN. FOR THAT TO. BE
BRIDGES TO BE INTERPRETED THAT
WAY OBVIOUSLY IS BOTHERSOME- ON
THE OTHER HAND I DO BELIEVE IN
TRANSPARENCY. I DO BELIEVE THAT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND-
WHAT IS GOING ON WITHIN. THE
WORLD WHETHER IT'S A FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT ITSELF DIRECTLY OR
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OWNED. LAND
COMPANY I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT
FOR US TO KNOW. THE TOO MANY
WAYS IN WHICH WHERE WE DON'T
HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WE CAN'T
MAKE THE PROPER DECISIONS SO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT. GATHERING THE
INFORMATION- MAYBE THAT COMES.
ASSEMBLY MIGHT'VE SAID- EARLIER.
GATHERING THE INFORMATION. IS
IT- IS A GOOD THING TO DO SO YOU
MIGHT CONSIDER THAT BEFORE
JUMPING INTO AND AN ACTUAL
PROBATION SO I WILL SUPPORT YOU
TODAY I THINK THOUGH- THE TOO
MANY. QUESTION MAR ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL. AND I THINK THAT YOU
YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT AND-
TAKE A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION
BUT NOT NECESSARILY END UP WHERE
YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE. OTHER
COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS-
THANK YOU- CENTER THOUGHT OF IT
YOU AND I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF
TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS BILL I
KNOW YOU'VE ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT- I STILL HAVE
CONCERNS AND WILL SUPPORT THE
BILL IS STILL CONCERNS- WITH
RESPECT TO FOR EXAMPLE THE
GOVERNOR'S VETO PERHAPS YOU
COULD ADDRESS THAT YOU'RE CLOSE
TO WHAT'S DIFFERENT. THIS YEAR
VERSUS THE BILL THAT WAS VETOED
BY THE GOVERNOR GOVERNOR ALSO IN
TERMS OF FOREIGN FINANCING SO
FOR EXAMPLE IF THE A CANADIAN
BANK FOR EXAMPLE FINANCES THE
PURCHASE. WHAT HAPPENS THEN
THAT'S A CONCERN ESPECIALLY WHAT
HAPPENS IF THERE'S A FOR CLOSURE
WHAT WHAT HAPPENS THEN- IBM.
HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT CAL O.
E. S. BEING THE ENTITY TO WHICH
THE INFORMATION IS REPORTED
CALLAWAY US IS A LOT GOING ON-
FIRES FLOODS EARTHQUAKES THAT
KIND OF THING- KEEPING TRACK OF
FOREIGN OWNERSHIP. MAY NOT BE.
OF THEIR OF SORT OF CORE
COMPETENCIES- SO I HAVE I HAVE
ALL THOSE CONCERNS AND I AM
HOPEFUL THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS
SOME OF THOSE AND CLOSE AND IF
NOT THEN IS THE BILL IF IT
SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AS IT MOVES
FORWARD. SO IS OUR MOTION. I'M
SORRY CENTER THERE ALSO MOVES
THE BALL ARTS IT ALSO MOVES THE
BILL AND TO OPPOSE YOU COULD
CLOSE YES. WHAT THE F. THANK YOU
OF FOR SOME FOR MOST I THINK
THAT SOME OF YOUR- QUESTIONS AND
CONCERNS RAISED HERE TODAY ARE
VERY MUCH. COMPLEX ISSUE RIGHT
AND PART OF IT IS ILLICIT
FINANCE THOSE SHELL. COMPANIES
THERE ARE THAT EXIST HERE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA- THAT. QUITE
FRANKLY WE DON'T IF WE DON'T
KNOW WHO WHO OWNS THEM AND PART
OF WHAT THEY'RE TARGETING IS
REAL ESTATE THAT INCLUDES
AGRICULTURAL LAND AND SO THE
REASON WHY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A
BARREN IS JUST TO GIVE US AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO THE
CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY ACT WHICH
WILL DISCLOSE WHO THE BENEFICIAL
OWNERS ARE NOT GOING INTO THE
IMPLEMENTATION- NEXT YEAR. IT TO
GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING WHAT
WILL YOU LIKE IT WHO ARE THE BAD
ACTORS HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM THIS
IS BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR
FOOD SECURITY HERE IT'S- YOU
KNOW AS I MENTIONED IN MY IN MY
IN A STATEMENT- THE FOOD
SECURITY- IT'S GOING TO BE
HEAVILY IMPACTED ITS ALREADY
IMPACTED BY THE FLOODS BY THE
DROUGHTS BY FIRES. IT'S ALL BEEN
IMPACTED- AND THE LESS FOOD WE
HAVE THE MORE IMPACTS NOT JUST
OUR STATE- AND OUR COUNTRY BUT
AROUND THE WORLD. THAT'S WHY
WE'RE SEEING MIGRATION OF PEOPLE
MIGRATING FROM STE YOU KNOW
LATIN AMERICA AND OTHER PARTS OF
THE OF THE WORLD TO THE US
FORCING CONFLICTS AROUND THE
WORLD I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT
WHAT'S GOING ON IN UKRAINE. THE
THAT'S TIED TO WATER AND FOOD OF
THE DAY AND- WE HAVE TO WE HAVE
TO. THINK ABOUT OF FOOD SECURITY
NOT JUST FIRST FOR THE STATE OR
FOR THE NATION BUT FOR THE WORLD
WE TAKE PRIDE I TAKE PRIDE IN.
KNOWING THAT CALIFORNIA PROVIDE
FEEDS THE WORLD AND I WANT TO
KEEP IT THAT WAY BUT WE HAVE TO
BE. ARMED IN CONTROL OF THE
SITUATION AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T
HAVE CONTROL OVER THE SITUATION
WE- EIGHT YOU KNOW AT UNITY I
COMMITTEE FOR EXAMPLE JUST HAS A
FEW BILLS THAT COME THROUGH A
WEEK. IF YOU HEARINGS HERE AND
THERE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ON.
IN THE INTEREST AND THE
INVOLVEMENT THAT THAT. ARE THE
SPACE NEEDS TO BE- TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE SECURITY FOR THE NATION FOR
THE STATE FOR THE WORLD I WANT
TO KEEP IT THAT WAY I THINK WE
CAN KEEP IT THAT WAY BUT WE NEED
TO. YEAH WE NEED TO BE BOLD AND
COURAGEOUS AND TAKING BOLD STEPS
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT. SOME SOME
PEOPLE HAVE MADE ABOUT RACE
ABOUT CERTAIN COUNTRIES IT'S-
IT'S AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT- BAD
ACTORS AND- THROUGH INVESTMENTS.
IT'S ON IT'S NOT EIGHTY. I MEAN
I GAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES RIGHT-
AND IT'S ABOUT WATER SECURITY
TO. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE
OFFERS IN THE WATER IN THE
STORAGE AND- WE COULD BE IN A IN
A SHORTAGE OF WATER WHAT ARE
PEOPLE GOING TO DO WHAT ARE THEY
GONNA. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN
WE GET YOU HAVE TO TELL OUR
CONSTITUENTS WILL WORK AND HAVE
WATER OUTAGES WE KNOW THEY DON'T
LIKE THE POWER OUTAGES WILL
IMAGINE WATER OUTAGES OR- OR
FOOD SHORTAGES THAT'S THE
REALITY OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND WE
CAN TAKE BOLD. ACTION NOW AND I
THINK THIS BILL IS PART OF THE
SOLUTION. IT'S IN NO WAY
INTENDED TO TRY TO DISCRIMINATE
OR INCREASE HEAT TOWARDS A
CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE I THINK
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WRONG THAT'S
NOT WHAT THE INTENTION OF THIS
BILL IS. BUT WE DO HAVE TO BE
REALISTIC AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND WE
NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT
I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY OTHER.
KIND OF EFFORT OF THE SORT TO
TAKE TO TACKLE THAT KIND OF
ISSUES SO. A WITHOUT I HOPE THAT
I ANSWERED THE MAJORITY OF YOUR
QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS IN MY IN
MY CLOSING STATEMENT AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
ALL RIGHTY THANK YOU CENTER .ORG
MEMSIC FIFTY CALL THE ROLL. THIS
IS FILE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN S. B.
TWO TWENTY FOUR. THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE. UMBERG
HI NUMBER I WILL CRY. WILK AYE
ALAN. ASHBY THROSSELL. RUSSELL I
LAYERED. WHERE I'M REQUIRE.
MCGUIRE I AM IN. MEN NO NEW LOW
. STERN WIENER. WIENER NO. OF
FIVE TO TWO NUMBERS MISSING ARM
FIVE TO PUT THAT BILL ON CALL
THANK YOU. RIGHT SENATE ROTH.
SENATOR ROTH SB NINETY FIVE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
THE BILL UPDATES THE CALIFORNIA
COMMERCIAL CODE TO CONFORM WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE
UNIFORM LAW COMMISSION FOCUSING
PRIMARILY ON THE TREATMENT OF
DIGITAL ASSETS THE UNIFORM
COMMERCIAL CODE IN THE
CALIFORNIA COMMERCIAL CODE HAVE
NOT BEEN UPDATED RECENTLY TO
KEEP PACE WITH TECHNOLOGICAL
DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING.
DEVELOPMENTS IN INVOLVING
DIGITAL ASSETS THE UNIFORM LAW
COMMISSION AND THE AMERICAN LAW
INSTITUTE UNDERTOOK A PROJECT TO
STUDY CONSIDER AND FORMULATE
AMENDMENTS TO THE UCC TO ADDRESS
THESE EMERGING TECHNOLOGY
DEVELOPMENTS THE STUDY IN
DRAFTING COMMITTEES IN THEIR
OBSERVERS INCLUDING LOWER
INCLUDED LAWYERS AND BUSINESS
PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH COMMERCIAL
OF THE TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY AND
CONSUMER MATTERS. AS A RESULT
THE UCC AMENDMENTS ADDRESS REAL
PROBLEMS IN A PRACTICAL WAY AND
ENCOMPASS RULES RELATING TO
SALES OF AND SECURITY INTERESTS
IN A WIDE VARIETY OF ELECTRONIC
PAYMENT RIGHTS THE NEGOTIABLE
THE OF AND SECURITY INTEREST IN
VIRTUAL CURRENCIES AND SECURITY
INTERESTS IN ELECTRONIC MONEY
SUCH AS CENTRAL BANK DIGITAL
CURRENCIES. GIVEN CALIFORNIA'S
LEADING ROLE IN TECHNOLOGY BASED
INDUSTRIES THESE AMENDMENTS ARE
IMPORTANT TO CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES AS THE AMENDMENTS
WILL GREATLY IMPROVE THE
PREDICTABILITY OF TRANSACTIONS
INVOLVING THESE DIGITAL ASSETS
AND ALLOW THEM TO BE USED MORE
CONFIDENTLY. AND EFFICIENTLY BY
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES COMMERCE.
WITH THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE HERE WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
OR DIANE BOYER VINE AND STEVEN
WEISS. ALREADY THANK YOU JUST
FOR CLARIFICATION SENATE DID YOU
ACCEPT THE MEMBERS PROPOSED. I
DO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS
PROPOSED THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THIS BOY MINDS AND I HAVE TO-
TURNED THE GAVEL OVER TO-
SENATOR LAYERED. THIS IS A LOT.
THE NEW LOST ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
. PLEASE CONTINUE TO WELCOME AND
I BELIEVE THAT EACH OF THOSE
SUPPORT OF WITNESSES HAS UP TO
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU SENATOR
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS DIANE
WHERE VINE AND I'M HERE TODAY AS
A COMMISSIONER ON THE CALIFORNIA
COMMISSION ON UNIFORM STATE LAWS
THE CALIFORNIA COMMISSION IS THE
SPONSOR OF SENATE BILL NINETY
FIVE. AND THE COMMISSION IS PART
OF THE UNIFORM LAW COMMISSION.
IN TWENTY TWENTY TO THE YOU'LL
SEE APPROVED THE TWENTY TWENTY
TWO UNIFORMS PARTIAL CODE
AMENDMENTS IS A MEMBERS WERE THE
PRODUCT OF A COLLABORATIVE
EFFORT BETWEEN THE YOU WILL SEE
AN AMERICAN LAW INSTITUTE SENATE
BILL NINETY FIVE WOULD ENACT
THESE. AMENDMENTS IN THE
CALIFORNIA LAW UNIFORM
COMMERCIAL CODE IS A SET OF
RULES GOVERNING A WIDE VARIETY
OF COMMERCIAL TRANSACTIONS THE
UCC HAS BEEN ADOPTED IN EVERY
JURISDICTION IN THE UNITED
STATES INSURING THAT THE LAW
GOVERNING COMMERCIAL
TRANSACTIONS IS SUBSTANTIALLY
SAY THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY. UCC WAS ADOPTING
CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE
CALIFORNIA COMMERCIAL CODE. THE
UC AND THE CALIFORNIA COMMERCIAL
CODE HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED
RECENTLY TO KEEP PACE WITH
TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENTS
INCLUDING DIGITAL ASSETS. THE
MARKET USING AND TRADING IN
THESE EMERGING ASSETS ONE
DEFINITIVE COMMERCIAL LAW RULES
FOR TRANSACTIONS INVOLVING
DIGITAL ASSETS TO PROMOTE THE
EFFICIENCY AND PREDICTABILITY OF
TRANSACTIONS. SUBJECT TO THE
CALIFORNIA COMMERCIAL CODE AND
UCC. THE AMENDMENT STRESS THESE
CONCERNS THROUGH THE CHANGES TO
THE LAW INVOLVED. THAT SENATOR
ROTH HAS DESCRIBED ALREADY
TODAY- THE MEMBERS ALSO ADDRESS
OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENTS
AND WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE
ADVANCEMENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMERCIAL CODE THROUGH THE
PASSAGE OF SB NINETY FIVE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK- NEXT
WITNESS I THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME HERE TODAY MY NAME IS STEVE
WISE I AM A LAWYER IN PRIVATE
PRACTICE IN LOS ANGELES WITH THE
FIRM OF PROSKAUER ROSE. I AM
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE UNIFORM
LAW COMMISSION I'VE BEEN
INVOLVED IN PRACTICING UNDER THE
UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE THE
COMMERCIAL COCA COLA COMMERCIAL
CODE IN CALIFORNIA. FOR FORTY
EIGHT YEARS MY ENTIRE- PRACTICE
I. HAVE BEEN ON DRAFTING
COMMITTEES FOR THE UC C. FOR
ABOUT TWENTY FIVE OR THIRTY
YEARS I TESTIFIED BEFORE THIS
NOT. DISCRIMINATION SAY
TESTIFIED. WE'RE ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR IN NINETEEN NINETY
NINE- WHEN- THE LAST TIME THE U.
C. C. WAS SIGNIFICANTLY. UPDATED
AND I TEACH THE SUBJECT AT UCLA
LAW SCHOOL. I AS HAS BEEN STATED
BY CENTRE ROTTEN IS FINE. ODD
THE UCC ARE NEEDS UPDATING- WE
RECOGNIZE THAT THREE OR FOUR
YEARS AGO AND ESTABLISHED A
STUDY COMMITTEE AND A DRAFTING
COMMITTEE. ARE TO DEAL. WITH
DIGITAL ASSETS. OUR WE HAD OVER
HUNDRED FIFTY OF. FROM A WIDE
RANGE OF INDUSTRIES ARE INVOLVED
IN THE TRANSACTION. EXCUSE ME IN
THE DRAFTING IN CONSIDERATION IT
WAS VETTED AND WE'VE ADDED. OVER
AND OVER AGAIN- THE PRINCIPLE
CHANGES ARE TO ADDRESS- RIGHTS
AND TRANSFERS AND CONTRACTS WITH
DIGITAL ASSETS OF. ONE FORM OR
ANOTHER AND THERE'S BEEN SOME
DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW IT APPLIES
TO CRYPTO CURRENCIES. THEY ARE
VERY CAREFULLY AND NUANCED
PROVISIONS IN THERE NOT JUST FOR
CRYPTO CURRENCIES BEFORE
ELECTRONIC PAYMENT RIGHT SUCH AS
ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE- THERE'S
ALSO BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT.
HOW IT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT APPLY
TO. STAR CENTRAL BANK DIGITAL
CURRENCY. ARE THE DRAFTING
COMMITTEE EVEN THOUGH THAT
DOESN'T EXIST YET THE UNITED
STATES TRIED TO GET AHEAD OF THE
CURVE AND PROVIDE SOME
PROVISIONS THERE. ARE THE UCC
DOES NOT REGULATE ANY OF THESE
THINGS IS SIMPLY TO PROVIDE SOME
GENERAL RULES FOR THEM. SO THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OF MY REGION
GROUP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH- NOW
THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR ANYBODY IN THE ROOM. TO
TESTIFIED SUPPORT JUST WITH
THEIR NAME ORGANIZATION AND THAT
THAT'S THEIR POSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON KAREN MEMBERS NAMELY
FOR JOHN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CREDIT UNION LEAGUE
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT. THIS
WOULD BE THE OPERATOR I HAVE NO
LEAD WITNESSES LISTED FOR THE
OPPOSITION BUT THIS WOULD BE THE
CHANCE FOR ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION
TO. TESTIFY HERE IN THE ROOM.
SEEING NO ONE THEN WE WILL GO TO
THE MODERATOR MODERATOR- WE
WOULD- TAKE. OUR TEST NOT
TESTIMONY WOULD TAKE ME TO ON
EITHER SIDE JUST TO NAME. A
ORGANIZATION AND WHETHER THEY
SUPPORT OR OPPOSE SO MODERATOR-
TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN THEY'LL FOR
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. AND WE
WILL GO TO LINE ONE SIXTY ONE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. NINE ONE SIX
THREE ONE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. IF
YOU'D LIKE. WE WILL MOVE ON THE
LINE ONE OH EIGHT YOUR LINE IS
OPEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO CAN
YOU HEAR ME YES WE CAN. I OPPOSE
THIS I OPPOSE SB NINETY FIVE.
AND DO YOU HAVE A NAME
ORGANIZATION EAT DO YOU HAVE A
NAME AYE ORGANISATION IT. YES MY
NAME IS BRANDY DST I COMPLETELY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NINETY FIVE WE APPRECIATE
YOUR OPINION MODERATOR NEXT CALL
. THANK YOU WE WILL GO TO LINE
ONE SIXTY FOR YOUR LINE IS OPEN
. HI YOU DON'T FOLLOW YOUR
PROCESS YOU NEED TO ALLOW PEOPLE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION YOU GIVE
SOMEONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT AND YOU NEED TO FOLLOW
YOUR OWN PROCESS AND YOU NEED TO
ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK THERE
NEEDS TO BE OP. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WILL REPRESENT US ON I
THINK THAT IS A COMMON IN
OPPOSITION MODERATOR NEXT CALL.
THANK YOU WILL GO TO LINE ONE OH
SEVEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS BRIAN
ROBERTS NUMBER OF RESIDENT OF
THE PRODUCT HOW THE ON BASS AND
THE SENATORS TO VOTE NO ON SB
NINETY FIVE WHICH BRINGS FURTHER
INFRINGEMENT OF GOVERNMENT INTO
THE DEFINITION OF CURRENCY. WE
THE PEOPLE ARE FED UP PLEASE AND
THE FEDERAL RESERVE WITH
FINANCIAL REPRESSION TO THE
MONOPOLIZATION OF OUR CURRENCY
THANK YOU VERY MODERATE ABOUT WE
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND WE
KNOW OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM
RUNNING FOR CONGRESS NOT TAKE
YOUR COMMENTS ON THE FEDERAL
RESERVE INTO ACCOUNT. UGH NEXT
CALLER MODERATE. THANK YOU WILL
GO BLIND ONE THIRTY THREE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HI MY NAME'S KAREN
OI. A RESIDENT OF SANTA CLARA
COUNTY I'M JUST CALLING TO
OPPOSE SB NINETY FIVE I THINK HE
SAID IT WITH ONE WORD AND IT'S
ALL ABOUT CONTROL. THANKS VERY
MUCH. RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS-
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THE BOTTOM
LINE ONE FIFTY EIGHT YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. WELL WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M SORRY I'M PROGRAM I'M GIVING
YOU THE NUMBER THAT YOU CAN HEAR
ME YES WE CAN HEAR YOU ARE
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR POSITION
ON THE BILL. MY NAME IS CARLA
MAY NEED SOME SMALL BUSINESS
OWNER IN LOS ANGELES AND- I FEEL
THAT THIS CREEK THE LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION
OF THE- STATE AND I AM IN
OPPOSITION OF THE- NINETY FIVE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
APPRECIATE. YOUR COMMENTS
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THANK YOU.
LINE EIGHTY NINE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HELLO MY NAME IS TERRY
MOON. AND I'M WITH THE GLOBAL
WALK OUT AND I APPROVED THIS
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THANK YOU
ABOUT ON ONE SIXTY YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. WELL MY NAME IS KATHY
WHITE MEN I'M A CINEMA COUNTY
RESIDENT AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH- NEXT
CALLER. THANK YOU WILL GO TO
LINE ONE IS SIXTY SEVEN YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HELLO MY NAME IS
LISA KASTNER ON WITH GLOBAL WALK
OUT IN THE ORGANIZATION WE FOR
HUMANITY. SO WE ARE STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO SB NINETY FIVE
BECAUSE IT CREATES. THE TRAIN
TRACK TO BRING IN THIS CENTRAL
BANK DIGITAL CURRENCY WHICH WILL
TAKE AWAY ALL THE FREEDOM THE
FINANCIALLY AND PERSONALLY IF
PEOPLE IN THE STATE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS-
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. ONE THANK
YOU WAPATO LINE ONE TWENTY THREE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI MY NAME IS
ROBIN CROP IN THE FUTURE IN SAN
FRANCISCO AN AWFUL NUMBER OF
SEVERAL CAL GRANT COMMUNITY. AND
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS
GOING TO BRING IN C. D. S. B. B.
C. THAT WILL RESULT IN THE END
OF FINANCIAL PRIVACY IN THE END
FINANCIAL CONTROL WE TALKING IN
A LACK OF SOCIAL SAFETY. IT'S
EVERYONE START TO FEEL. VERY
MUCH COMMENTS I'M GONNA TAKE
THAT AS. OPPOSITION MODERATOR
NEXT CALL. THANK YOU ABOUT WHY
THIRTY YEAR LINE OF THE- HI THIS
IS TRICIA JOHNSON- A CONCERNED
RESIDENT OF SAN FRANCISCO I AM
CALLING BECAUSE- THIS SB NINETY
FIVE IS COMPLICATED AND VERY.
LEADING AND IS IT GOVERNMENT
OVERREACH. OF OUR CURRENCY I'M
GONNA TAKE THAT AS OPPOSITION AS
WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THANK YOU
WELL WHY DON'T FOURTH HE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. YES MY NAME IS
JOANNE WHAT SELLS I'M VERY
OPPOSED TO S. B. NINETY FIVE.
NONMETAL BACKPAGE'S TOLD KERN ST
THEY CAN REDUCE OUR ACCOUNT. ARE
BALANCED. AND BLOCKED ACCESS TO
ACCOUNT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR COMMENTS WE APPRECIATE YOUR
OPINION MODERATOR NEXT CALL. IF
YOU WERE TO LINE ONE SEVENTY TWO
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YES MY NAME
IS DUANE ADAMS ARMY CONSISTS
SITUATE IN SANTA CRUZ AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THE BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
OPINION MODERATOR NEXT CALL.
THANK YOU WILL GO TO LINE ONE
SEVENTY THREE. YOU NEED TO ALLOW
ON OPPOSING WITNESS TO SPEAK TO
ME TOO ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF
THE PRODUCT THAT IS A MADE TO
ORDER SO THING VERY MUCH
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THANK YOU
ONE MOMENT. WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE
OF FIFTY SEVEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN
. HELLO MY NAME IS ASHLEY
CAPORALI I'M CALLED MAN TO FIND
OUT IF THE TERM ACCESS IS
LEGITIMATE IT'S ACTUALLY A
LIABILITY THERE'S NOTHING BACK
IN THIS SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT
GOING TO CONTACT THAT IS AN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THANK YOU
MATURE WE HAVE NO FURTHER
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION IN Q. ARE
WE APPRECIATE. YOUR WORK
MODERATOR IT COMES BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS SENATOR MAN. I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR. I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD- I TOOK THE BAR
EXAM LAST YEAR SO I'M I'M I
BECAME RE FAMILIARIZED WITH THAT
YOU SEE SEE THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS
IS A TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT PART
OF OUR- A CONTRACTUAL LAW- IT
GOVERNS MOST TRANSACTIONS IN THE
STATE. AND IT'S BEEN LONG
OVERDUE FOR. AN UPDATE ON THE
PARTICULAR- CHALLENGES AND
NUANCES THAT THAT DIGITAL
ASSETS- CREATE- SO I WILL I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THE BILL JUST WANT
TO THANK YOU AND I KNOW THAT
THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A WORK
IN PROGRESS OVER THE COMING
YEARS BUT I GUESS I'D EMPHASIZE
THAT. THE U. L. C. IS YOU KNOW
CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD
THEY MAY DO THAT IF THERE ARE
FURTHER UPDATES NEEDED GOING
FORWARD BUT THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT I THINK WE JUST WE NEED TO
DO. ARE WE SEEING THE CHALLENGES
THAT DIGITAL ASSETS POSE TARAKAN
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR
POSSIBLY EVEN A MOTION. MOTION
BY SENATOR MEN ARE ANY FURTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. US
SENATOR ROTH YOU COULD CLOSE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR WITH. SO
TO AVOID ELONGATING THIS
PROCEEDING- AND I THINK I WILL
NOT RESPOND TO SOME OF THE
TELEPHONE- COMMENTS AND SIMPLY
S. ZERO VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. AND THIS IS ON THE- SB
NINETY FIVE. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN SB NINETY FIVE
MOTIONS TO PASS AS AMENDED
UMBERG. WILK NO WELCOME ALAN.
ASHLEY ASHBY I'D RUSSELL.
RUSSELL HIGH LAYERED HI CLEARED
I REQUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE MIN AYE
MIN AYE A NEW LOW. STERN WIENER
WIENER AYE WE HAVE SIX VOTES AND
WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL. SO SIXTY
ONE SIXTY ONE EXCUSE ME PUT THAT
ON CALL FOR OTHER MEMBERS END.
OF WE- THE NEXT ITEM HAPPENS TO
BE THE SAME AUTHORITIES VERY
PARTIAL TO BILLS THAT HAVE
NINETY FIVE AND- SO WE'LL- CALL
UP ITEM FIFTEEN- S. B. FIVE
NINETY FIVE. CENTER ROTH THE
FLOOR'S YOURS THANK YOU MISTER
MEMBERS ACCESS TO INFORMATION
REGARDING HEALTH INSURANCE
OPTIONS IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY
BARRIERS TO ACHIEVING
UNIVERSITY. HEALTH CARE COVERAGE
IN THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR STATE
ESPECIALLY AS CALIFORNIANS
EXPERIENCE TRANSITIONS IN
EMPLOYMENT AND INCOME. LAST YEAR
AS YOU MAY RECALL CENTER LEYVA
SENATE BILL SIX FOUR FOUR WAS
PASSED. AND ESTABLISHED A VITAL
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COVERED
CALIFORNIA. IN THE EMPLOYMENT
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SPECIFICALLY THE EDT IN THAT
BILL WAS REQUIRED AND IS
REQUIRED TO SHARE INFORMATION
WITH COVERED CALIFORNIA.
REGARDING THOSE WHO APPLIED FOR
UNEMPLOYMENT OR OTHER BENEFITS
SO THAT COVERED CALIFORNIA COULD
CONDUCT DIRECT OUTREACH ON
AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE OPTIONS
TO THEM. UNFORTUNATELY SENATE
BILL SIX FOUR FOUR CONTAINED A
BROAD PROHIBITION ON THE FURTHER
DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION TO
ANYONE WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF
THE APPLICANT INCLUDING COVERED
CALIFORNIA'S VENDORS WHO
ACTUALLY CARRY OUT. THE OUT
REACH. PRIOR TO SENATE BILL SIX
FORTY FOUR THE ONLY RESTRICTION
ON COVERED CALIFORNIA'S USE OF
SIMILAR INFORMATION FROM HEALTH
CARE APPLICATIONS. IN MARKETING
APPLICATIONS TO COVERED
CALIFORNIA WAS THAT IT COULD
SHARE INFORMATION WITH ITS
VENDORS TO DO OUT REACH BUT
COULD NOT DO SO WITH RESPECT TO
CERTIFIED INSURANCE AGENTS OR
ENROLLMENT COUNSELORS WITHOUT
THE CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT.
THIS BILL RECONCILES THE TWO BY
STATING THAT COVERED CALIFORNIA
MAY DISCLOSE PERSONAL APPLICANT
INFORMATION TO ITS VENDORS FOR
MARKETING AND OUTREACH ONLY BUT
MAY NOT DISCLOSE PERSONAL
APPLICANT INFORMATION WHETHER
OBTAINED FROM HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE APPLICATION OR FROM THE
E. D. D. TO A CERTIFIED
INSURANCE AGENT OR ENROLLMENT
COUNSELOR. WITHOUT FIRST
OBTAINING THE CONSENT OF THE
APPLICANT. THE BILL IS A SIMPLE
FIX THAT MAINTAINS THE GREATER
ACCESSIBILITY TO HEALTH
INSURANCE ESTABLISHED BY. SENATE
BILL SIX FORTY FOUR WHILE
PROTECTING CALIFORNIANS FROM
RECEIVING COLD CALLS. FROM
OUTSIDE ENTITIES I WILL BE
ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TODAY THAT
ENSURE THAT COVERED CALIFORNIA'S
VENDORS OPERATE UNDER THE SAME
PRIVACY RULES AND RESTRICTIONS
AS COVERED CALIFORNIA. FURTHER
THE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY STATES
THAT ANY PERSON OR ENTITY THAT
RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION UNDER
THIS BILL. MUST TAKE REASONABLE
MEASURES TO SAFEGUARD PERSONAL
INFORMATION AND NOT DISCLOSE
THAT INFORMATION FOR ANY OTHER
PURPOSE OTHER THAN MARKETING AND
OUTREACH. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME HERE WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
IS A BILL CO SPONSOR. HEALTHAXIS
CALIFORNIA. WELCOME THINKCENTRE
GOOD AFTERNOON TURN MEMBERS JOSE
TORRES CÁC HOUSE WITHOUT ACTS
CALIFORNIA THE STATEWIDE
HEALTHCARE CONSUMER ADVOCACY
COALITION. I'M HERE TODAY AS A
CO SPONSOR AND SUPPORTER OF SB
FIVE NINE FIVE. THE BILL IS A
CLARIFYING BILL YET BUT IT'S A
FOLLOW UP TO SB SIX FORTY FOUR
FROM LAST YEAR AS A CENTER
MENTIONED. AND AT THAT TIME- IT
AUTHORIZED AT THE SHARE
APPLICANT FORMATION WITH COVERED
CALIFORNIA WHO WITH THAT CONDUCT
THE COULD TARGET OUT REACH. OUT
TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR
BENEFITS FROM EATING. IT IS A
CLARIFYING BILL MAKES CLARIFYING
CHANGES TO THE STATUTE ALLOWING
COVER CALIFORNIA TO ENGAGE AND
DIRECTED. OUR REACTIVITY LAW
PROTECTING INDIVIDUALS FROM
RECEIVING CALL CALLS. HEALTH
ACCESS AND OUR CO SPONSORS TO
TRULY DO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK
WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THIS
COMMITTEE AND WE BELIEVE THAT
THE AMENDMENT HERE- DOES FURTHER
SHRINKING THE BILL. AND IT
STRENGTHENS THE BILL SO THAT
COVERED CALIFORNIA CAN DO THEIR
OWN OUT REACH AND INFORM
CONSUMERS OF THEIR HEALTHCARE
OPTIONS BUT ALSO PROTECT
CONSUMER PRIVACY. THE BILL. THE
BILL WITH THE AMENDMENT WOULD
ALLOW COVER COVER CALIFORNIA'S
GENERAL INFORMATION ONLY WITH
THE CONTRACTED EDUCATION AND OUT
REACH VENDORS. AND IT WOULD DO
SO IN A WAY THAT SAFEGUARDS
CONSUMER PRIVACY. ANY
INFORMATION SHARED WITH
INSURANCE AGENTS OR ENROLLMENT
BROKERS WOULD REQUIRE THE
EXPLICIT INFORMED CONSENT OF THE
INDIVIDUAL. SB FIVE NINE FIVE
CLARIFIES ALL EXISTING PRIVACY
CAN DO. PRIVACY PROTECTIONS AND
THAT BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL MUST
APPLY TO ALL ASPECTS. OF
INFORMATION SHARED. AND THIS
ALSO APPLIES TO ANY VENDORS THE
END SUB UNDER THAT DEAL WITH
COVERED CALIFORNIA HAVE A
CONTRACT WITH COVERED
CALIFORNIA. I DO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME AFTER YOUR SUPPORT
HERE TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
AND THAT IS THE LEAD WITNESS IN
THE ROOM. I'M NO OTHERS LISTED
SO THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM TO
GIVE THEIR NAME THEIR
ORGANIZATION AND THEIR- POSITION
ON THIS BILL. AFTERNOON ANDREA
RIVERA ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PAN ETHNIC HEALTH
NETWORK HEALTH NETWORK ANOTHER
CO SPONSOR IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON MARVELOUS WITH
THE LATINO COALITION FOR HEALTHY
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ACTUALLY
WITH THE ELECTRONIC TECHNICIAN-
IN OPPOSITION. WE'LL TAKE THAT
NOW BUT WILL HAVE A MOMENT FOR
OPPOSITION THAT'S COMING UP. OF
ANYBODY ELSE IN SUPPORT. THEN
THIS WOULD BE THE CHANCE AND
WE'VE HAD ONE FOR THE RECORD
ALREADY FOR ANYBODY TO STATE
THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
IN THE ROOM. SAYING NO
ADDITIONAL ONES THEN MODERATOR.
ARE WE WILL GO TO YOU AND THIS
IS THE CHANCE FOR ANYONE TO
STATE ANY POSITION ON THIS BILL.
WOULD JUST THEIR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION AND WHAT THAT
POSITION THIS. THANK YOU
TRANSPORTER A POSITION YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. GINETTA
ONE AND THEN ZERO UP IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION. WE'LL GO TO LINE
ONE OF ONE FIFTY FOUR YOU JUST
YOURSELF ALL YOU'LL HAVE TO RE
QUEUE. THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO
. REPORTER LINE ONE FIFTY FOR
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON LINDA WAY WITH WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY HOW CO
SPONSOR AND SUPPORTER SB FIVE
NINE FIVE THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MEXICO LINE
A ONE OH EIGHT YOUR LINE IS OPEN
. HELLO MY NAME IS BRANDY DST
CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AYE OPPOSED
TO SELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS
MODERATOR NEXT CALL. THANK YOU
OVER LINE ONE SEVENTY ONE. YES
HI THIS IS TREATING. NUMBER
CALLING ON BEHALF OF OPEN
PRIVACY WE HAVE HAD
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE BUT AT THIS TIME WE ARE
STILL UNFORTUNATELY OPPOSED TO
SB FIVE NINE. I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CALL MODERATOR NEXT CALLER
. THANK YOU LINE FORTY FOR YOUR
LINES OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON MERRY
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
CHILDREN'S PARTNERSHIP AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MODERATOR NEXT CALL IMAGE CHECK
. WE HAVE NOT FOR THE SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION IN Q. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH- WILL BRING THE MATTER BACK
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OUR OF A
MOTION FROM SENATOR GARAGE SO
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE TO A
VOTE. THEN WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T
ALLOW SENATOR ROTH TO CLOSE.
JUST ABOVE AS HERO VOTE THANK
YOU SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIFTEEN SB FIVE
NINE FIVE MOTION IS TO PASS IS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. NUMBER
WELCOME. HI WILK AYE ALAN.
ASHLEY RUSSELL ASHBY I'D RUSSELL
. RUSSELL I LAYERED. LAYERED I'M
REQUIRED. MCGUIRE AYE MIN. NEW
LOW. STERN WIENER. HI WIENER I.
SIX ZERO. OKAY WE'LL PUT THAT A
BILL ON CALL. AND THEN. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS. THANK
YOU AN ALTERNATE GAVEL BACK TO
THE VICE CHAIR SENATOR WITH.
THANK YOU SENATOR LAYERED WE'RE
GOING FILE ORDER SHOULD BE
CENTER GLAZER NEXT BUT I DO NOT
SEE CENTER GLAZER. INTERFERE
CENTER SCARE IS GONNA BE A WHILE
I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING CENTER
SKINNER NOW AND I GUESS ALL
THOSE- CENTER HERE NOT HERE
THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM RIGHT. YEAH
OKAY WELL I'VE HEARD FROM MARK
COMMITTEE SO. GIVE ME A SECOND
HERE TO GET SET UP CENTER
SKINNER. I'M WITH YOU. SHE'S AT
THE DAY SHE'S ACT AND SO WE'RE
GONNA GO. ALL RIGHT HERE WE GO.
ALL RIGHT UP NEXT. WE HAVE FILE
ITEM SEVENTEEN S. B. TWO EIGHTY
SIX. TO EIGHTY SIX SEVEN. M.
REGARDING. FEATURES THAT HARM
CHILD USERS WITH THE CIVIL
PENALTY. WITH THAT THANK YOU SO
MUCH VICE CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I'M
PLEASED TO PRESENT S. B. TWO
EIGHTY SEVEN AND BEFORE
EXPLAINED THE BILL LET ME FIRST
INDICATE THAT I AM ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE MEMONS INCLUDING THE
LIMIT ON ENFORCEMENT TO PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS THAT AID THE A. G.
D. A.'S AND OUR COUNTY AND CITY
ATTORNEYS. ALSO REMOVING THE
LIABILITY BASED ON THE- THE-
PART ABOUT THE CONTENT RELATED
TO DIET PILLS DIET PRODUCTS AND
THAT SORT OF THING. AND THERE
IT'S IN YOUR COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
AND THEN I. WILL BE CONTINUING
TO WORK WITH COMMITTEE I RELATED
TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS
THAT THEY RAISED BUT THERE IS NO
SPECIFIC AMENDMENT- RIGHT NOW
REGARDING THAT. HELLO WHAT THIS
BILLS PURPOSE IS TO ADDRESS THE
FACT THAT STUDY AFTER STUDY IS
INDICATING THAT THE ALGORITHMS
THAT CERTAIN OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS ARE USING ARE HARMING
OUR CHILDREN. I THINK SOME OF
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE REPORT- I
BELIEVE WAS IN THE NEW YORK
TIMES SQUARE IT WAS EASIER IT
BASICALLY YOU COULD ACCESS
FEDERAL. GET ILLEGAL DRUGS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA QUICKER THAN YOU
COULD CALL IN HOOVER OR LEFT- WE
ALSO HAVE THE PROBLEM NOW WHERE.
GHOST GUNS ARE- BEING- PROMOTED.
AND WE ARE FINDING EVERY AGE OF
PERSON BEING ABLE TO BUY THESE
ILLEGAL GUNS VIA SOCIAL MEDIA
BUT ESPECIALLY THERE IS NO
RESTRICTION WHATSOEVER ON OUR
YOUTH. WE ARE FACING AN
UNPRECEDENTED CRISIS IN TEEN
SUICIDES IN FENTANYL DEATHS AND
AS I INDICATED THE STUDIES MAKE
SOME VERY DIRECT LINKS TO THE
NUMBER OF HOURS THAT ARE TEAMS.
UTILIZE SOCIAL MEDIA IN THESE
CONSEQUENCES. SO WHAT THE BILL
DOES IS ALLOW MAKES IT UNLAWFUL
FOR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO
KNOWINGLY OR CARELESSLY ADDICTED
CHILDREN TO THEIR PLATFORMS IN
OTHER WORDS THE USED THEIR
ALGORITHM THAT DOES THAT. FOR TO
ENABLE THE SALE OF CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES OR ILLEGAL WEAPONS OR
ASSIST CHILDREN IN INFLICTING
HARM ON THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.
AND IT PROVIDES TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY THOUSAND IN DAMAGES. AND
PENALTIES PER VIOLATION BUT THE
BILL ALSO INCLUDES A SAFE HARBOR
COMPLETE SAFE HARBOR FROM ANY OF
THESE PENALTIES OR LIABILITY IF
THE PLATFORM AUDITS IT'S
PRACTICES QUARTERLY
INVOLUNTARILY CEASES ANY
PRACTICES THAT BECAUSE THESE
HORNS. SO ALLOW ME TO HAVE MY
WITNESSES WHO ARE HERE I HAVE SO
FEW CHEF WHO IS A FRESHMAN AT
STANFORD SPEAKING TO OUR OWN
LIVED EXPERIENCE AND ED HOWARD
WHO IS THE SENIOR COUNSEL AT THE
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY INSTITUTE
AND AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN
DIEGO SCHOOL OF LAW PROFESSOR.
GO AHEAD SIR. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FOR ALLOWING ME TO TELL MY STORY
AND FOR GIVING A SPEECH TO A
YOUNG QUEER JEWISH LATINA AT A
TABLE THAT OUR PEOPLE HAVE LONG
BEEN EXCLUDED FROM. MY NAME IS
SOPHIE SHETH I'M TWENTY YEARS
OLD I'M A FIRST YEAR STUDENT AT
STANFORD UNIVERSITY. AND I'M
ORIGINALLY FROM WEST LA I DO NOT
STAND IN FRONT OF YOU ALONE.
STANDING WITH ME TODAY ARE
MILLIONS OF YOUNG PEOPLE WORLD
WERE DESTROYED BECAUSE SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES KNOWINGLY AND
NEGLIGENTLY RISK OUR LIVES FOR
THE SAKE OF PROFIT AND
CAPITALIZE UPON OUR
VULNERABILITY. STANDING WITH ME
TODAY IS SO FEE AT FIFTEEN YEARS
OLD WHOSE BODY IS STILL SORE
FROM THE PAINFUL STILLNESS IN
THE WORDS. I SPOKE TO YOUR
INSURANCE COMPANY TODAY AND THEY
ASKED FOR YOUR PROGNOSIS I TOLD
THEM YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS LEFT TO
LIVE. YOUR HEART YOUR LIVER AND
YOUR KIDNEYS ARE ALL FAILING BUT
YOUR BMI IS PERFECTLY NORMAL SO
THERE IS NOTHING MORE THAT WE
CAN DO FOR YOUR EATING DISORDER.
STANDING WITH ME TODAY IS
FIFTEEN YEAR OLD SOPHIE WHO HAS
A WOUND ETCHED INTO HER SOUL IN
THE SHAPE OF THE WORDS. GO HOME
SO FEE YOU'LL BE DEAD SOON.
STANDING WITH ME TODAY IS A
GENERATION THAT KNOWS ALL TOO
WELL WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE
HARMED BY FLAWED SYSTEMS. A
FLORIDA MENTAL HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM AND SYSTEMS OF ALGORITHMS
THAT EXPOSE US TO HARMFUL AND
ADDICTIVE CONTENT SO WE SPEND
MORE HOURS ONLINE AND MAKE TECH
COMPANIES MORE MONEY. STANDING
WITH ME TODAY IS TEN YEAR OLD
SOPHIE WHO FIRST DOWNLOADED
INSTAGRAM DURING HER TENTH
BIRTHDAY PARTY. SHE WAS
IMMEDIATELY EXPOSED TO A FLURRY
OF INFORMATION THAT KNOWINGLY
AND ON ABOUT SHOULD WE PROMOTED
EATING DISORDERS. STANDING IN
FRONT OF ME AND STANDING WITH ME
TODAY IS FIFTEEN YEAR OLD SOPHIE
WHO FOLLOWED EVERY STARVATION
REGIMEN RECOMMENDED TO HER BY
HER INSTAGRAM EXPLORE PAGE.
BECAUSE IF IT WAS SAFE ENOUGH TO
BE ONLINE IT WAS SAFE ENOUGH FOR
HER TO FOLLOW RIGHT. AND
STANDING WITH ME TODAY IS A
GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT
IS DONE BEING EXPLOITED A
GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT
REMAINS ALIVE AGAINST ALL ODDS.
AND STANDING WITH ME TODAY ARE
THE MEMBERS OF MY GENERATION WHO
ARE NOT AND SITTING IN FRONT OF
ME TODAY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
THE POWER. AND THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT NO
MORE LIVES ARE LOST OF HARMFUL
SOCIAL MEDIA PRACTICES. I URGE
YOU TO PASS SB TWO EIGHT SEVEN.
THANK YOU THANK YOU. OTHERS IN
SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS AT
HOWARD A SENIOR COUNSEL AT THE-
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY INSTITUTE AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
SCHOOL OF LAW. FOR THE REASONS-
I'M SORRY. FOR THE REASONS YOU
JUST HEARD- THIS IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT CHILD PROTECTION BILL.
I HAVE EVER TESTIFIED TO
SUPPORT. AND WILL BE THE MOST
IMPORTANT ONE I WILL EVER
TESTED. OR I'VE BEEN DOING
PUBLIC INTEREST WORK FOR THIRTY
YEARS. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING
LIKE THIS. OUR CHILDREN ARE ON
FIRE. SPECIALLY ACROSS. THEY ARE
KILLING THEMSELVES. THEY ARE
STARVING THEMSELVES. THEY ARE
OVERDOSING TODAY. AND SUFFERING
A LIFE OF LIFE ALTERING
DEPRESSION IT COMES FROM BEING
MEDICALLY ADDICTED TO A PRODUCT
IS A MERE CHILD. AND THIS IS
HAPPENING IN JAW DROPPING NEVER
BEFORE SEEN NUMBERS THAT EXACTLY
EXACTLY PARALLEL. THE RISE OF
SOCIAL MEDIA USE AMONG CHILDREN
AND WITH THE A. I. REVOLUTION
HERE ALL OF THIS WILL GET WORSE
. NOT BETTER. WORSE. QUOTE GOD
ONLY KNOWS WHAT IT'S DOING TO
OUR CHILDREN'S BRAINS. SAID
FACEBOOK'S FIRST PRESIDENT NOW
WE KNOW. A STRONG AND TRULY
BIPARTISAN GROUP OF LEGISLATORS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IS MOVING
LEGISLATION VERY SIMILAR TO THIS
BILL TO MAKE SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS SIMPLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR
THE HARMS THEY KNOW OR SHOULD
KNOW ARE CAUSING TO OUR CHILDREN
JUST WEEKS AGO ON A BIPARTISAN
BASIS THE GOVERNOR OF UTAH SITE
H. R. ELEVEN. LAW PASSED WITH
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT THAT WAS
NEARLY VERBATIM FROM THIS YEAR'S
LAST YEAR'S BIPARTISAN BILL INTO
FOUR OH EIGHT. I STARTED THIS
COMMITTEE WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP
MR CHAIRMAN AND THE MEMBERS
SUPPORT. NO NO VOTES AND MARCH
TWENTY OF THIS YEAR. NEW
JERSEY'S HEALTH COMMITTEE PASSED
A BIPARTISAN BILL. ON THE BASIS
OF A NINE ZERO BUT- BIPARTISAN
VOTE AGAIN A BILL VIRTUALLY
IDENTICAL. TWO AB TWO FAR AWAY
ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS BILLS LIKE
THESE. IT SEEK TO HOLD PLATFORM
SIMPLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE
THINGS THAT THEY KNOW THEY ARE
DOING OR NEGLIGENCE TO HOWARD
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY HI I
THANK YOU FOR DR UP RIGHT THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT OTHERS IN SUPPORT
. VESTBY TWO EIGHT SEVEN PROCHE
MICROPHONE GIVE US YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION YOUR POSITION CAN
STONE STONE ADVOCACY ON BEHALF
OF THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
INSTITUTE AND A GROUP OF OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS THAT IS ASKED ME
TO AT REPRESENT THEIR SUPPORT.
JEWISH FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S
SERVICES CALIFORNIA YOUTH
EMPOWERMENT NETWORK MENTAL
HEALTH AMERICA CALIFORNIA
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
UNIVERSITY WOMEN CALIFORNIA. A
CALIFORNIA CONSORTIUM OF
ADDICTION PROGRAMS AND
PROFESSIONALS LOOK UP SAY SOCIAL
MEDIA BACKLASH MILL FOUNDATION
FAIR PLAY. CALIFORNIA FEDERATION
OF TEACHERS HALF THE STORY AND
THE PARENTS TELEVISION AND MEDIA
COUNCIL THANK YOU THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
TRISTEN BROWN OF THE CFT UNION
OF EDUCATORS AND CLASSIFIED
PROFESSIONALS ON BEHALF OF A
HUNDRED THOUSAND MEMBERS WE ARE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BUILDERS AND I ABOUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS I SELL IF
I AM ESAU- JUNIOR APLIKACIJE
SCHOOL IN SACRAMENTO AND I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA YOUTH DIGITAL HEALTH
COALITION WITH HALF THE STORY.
WE STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
SB TWENTY SEVEN TO STOP KIDS
FROM BEING KNOWINGLY EXPLOITED
ONLINE BY SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES
THANK YOU. HELLO MY NAME IS
ARGHA MCCULLOUGH I AM A JUNIOR
AT C. K. MCCLATCHY. AND TODAY I
AM HERE TO ANNOUNCE MY SUPPORT
FOR SB TWO EIGHTY SEVEN WHICH
PROTECTS TEENS LIKE ME ONLINE
THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR WITH
COMMON SENSE MEDIA HONOR TO
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE CAN AGING
PARENTS WITH NEXT IN CALIFORNIA
AND STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ROBERT RALLY SECOND DIRECTOR OF
THE CONSUMER FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
HELLO COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
CHRISTY HERE WITH MY LATE SON
ZACHARY DID YEAR OUR FROM
PLASTER COUNTY AND RESPECTFUL
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN BURST
KATHY VAN AUSTIN ON BEHALF OF
THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
UNIVERSITY WOMEN CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
CORY HAS SHE TO WITH THE
STEINBERG INSTITUTE IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU- ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM
SEEING KNOWN APPROACH IN MY
FRONT OPPOSITION THOSE IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN SENATORS DON HOFFMAN ON
BEHALF OF TECHNET ME
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE SB TWO
EIGHTY SEVEN- WE COULDN'T AGREE
MORE THAT THESE ISSUES ARE
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT OUR
PLATFORMS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
THESE. ON MITIGATING THE REST
MANY OF THESE FACTORS THAT
INCLUDED IN SB TWO EIGHTY SEVEN
FOR YEARS- WE TAKE AGGRESSIVE
ACTIONS AGAINST- ILLEGAL CONTENT
ON OUR PLATFORM SUCH AS- OPIOIDS
FEDERAL DRUG TRAFFICKING-
ILLEGAL FIREARMS- THROUGH A
VARIETY OF WAYS- WE'VE BEEN
PARTNERS WITH CIVIL SOCIETY AND
LAW ENFORCEMENT TRYING TO MAKE
PROGRESS ON A LOT OF THESE
ISSUES- I THINK THE CORE THING
ON THIS BILL TO REMEMBER THOUGH.
IS THAT DESPITE AMENDMENTS THAT
REMOVE THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION THIS BILL IS STILL
UNCONSTITUTIONAL IT IS STILL
PREEMPTED BY FEDERAL LAW- AND
UNTIL SUPREME COURT PRECEDENTS
CHANGE- THAT WILL BE THE FACT
WHETHER IT'S ENFORCED BY PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION OR BY PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS. AND WE BELIEVE THAT
YOU KNOW PUTTING ENFORCEMENT OF
CONTENT ONLINE IN THE HANDS OF
PUBLIC PROSECUTORS JUST SERVES
TO FURTHER POLITICIZE- THOSE
DECISIONS AS WAS NOTED-
LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
ARE TRYING TO REGULATE. CONTENT
ONLINE- MANY OF WHICH VERY MUCH
DISAGREE WITH THE DECISIONS
HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA- AND I
THINK THE STRUCTURE OF THIS BILL
IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND COULD BE
A ARE A ROAD MAP TO OTHERS- TO
REGULATE CONTACT. IF I'M WRONG
ABOUT THIS BEING
UNCONSTITUTIONAL- THIS WILL BE
DUPLICATED IN OTHER STATES AND I
THINK TO THE FACT THAT
CALIFORNIA WOULD BE VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH- SO WE
ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO SERIOUSLY
CONSIDER- YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION
THAT THIS BILL IS GOING IN. THE
DIRECTION OF THIS POLICY OR IS
GOING AND- AND TO AVOID
UNDERMINING FIRST AMENDMENT
PRINCIPLES- AND- FEDERAL LAW. I
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ALSO
TO SAY YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT
OPPOSED. TO ACCOUNTABILITY WERE
NOT OPPOSED TO BEING PARTNERS IN
WORKING ON THESE ISSUES IT JUST
CAN'T COME IN THE FORM OF
LIABILITY FOR CONTENT AND
CONTENT SERVING FEATURES ONLINE
THAT INFRINGE UPON. FIRST
AMENDMENT PRINCIPLES- I THINK A
LOT OF THINGS CAN BE TRUE I
THINK THESE ISSUES CAN BE
IMPORTANT- I THINK YOU KNOW.
WE'VE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO WORK
ON THESE ISSUES AND STAND READY
TO DO SO- THERE'S MORE WORK TO
BE DONE- WE'RE VERY OPEN THAT WE
NEED TO BE BETTER. THANK YOU BUT
THIS BILL IS NOT WELL CRAFTED TO
SOLVING THAT PROBLEM AND WE WERE
READY TO GO- MUCH OF THAT ARE
YOU THINK YOU. MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS CARL'S A BOEING VICE
PRESIDENT GENERAL COUNSEL AND
NATURALLY SMALL SO PROFESSOR AT
GEORGE MASON LAW SCHOOL. ON THE
FATHER OF TWO AND MY WIFE IS A
CHILD THERAPIST. ONE OF THE
THINGS MY WIFE GETS REALLY
FRUSTRATED WITH. IS WHEN I USE
CLINICAL TERMS INAPPROPRIATELY
THAT'S HER UNIVERSE I GET
FRUSTRATED WHEN SHE MISUSES
LEGAL TERMS OF MY UNIVERSE. AND
ONE OF THOSE TERMS IT OFTENTIMES
GETS THROWN AROUND INCORRECTLY
IS THE WORD ADDICTION. SHE LOOKS
AT IT AND SHE HAS A CLINICAL
DEFINITION SHE TURNS TO BOOKS
CALLED THE DSM FOR. AS A
CLINICAL DEFINITION OF ADDICTION
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU
ENJOY DOING THAT IS NOT AN
ADDICTION. MY KIDS LOVE CANDY
BARS THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY
DIRECTED TO CANDY BARS. MY KIDS
LIKE WATCHING TV THEY'RE NOT
NECESSARILY DIRECTED TO TV.
ADDICTION IN THIS LEGISLATION IS
ESSENTIALLY DEFINED AS ANYTHING
THAT YOU ENJOY DOING. WHAT THE
LEGISLATION IS SAYING IF YOU
DESIGN A PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE
ENJOY DOING. YOUR I. PHONE
YOU'RE SUBJECT TO PRIVATE RIGHT
OF ACTION STATUTORY DAMAGES OF
QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS PER
VIOLATION. SO AN EXAMPLE OF HOW
THIS CAN BE WEAPONIZED BECAUSE
THAT'S ALSO HOW I LOOK AT THIS
LEGISLATION. IS A PUBLIC
ADVOCACY CAMPAIGN SUGGESTING.
THAT YOU. PUT DOWN A CANDY BAR
AND PICK UP A CARROT. WOULD BE A
VIOLATION UNDER THIS LEGISLATION
. BECAUSE IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY
FEEL BAD. IS AN ABSURD EXAMPLE
HUNDRED PERCENT. 100% ABSURD.
WHAT I'VE SEEN ABSURD EXAMPLES.
BECAUSE REAL FINANCIAL HARMS. IN
THE COURSE OF IN THE ACCOUNTS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DUE TO
PRIVATE RIGHTS OF ACTION AND
STATUTORY DAMAGES. YEAH THERE'S
A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER REASONS
NOT TO DO THIS THE FACT THAT IS
MODELED OFF THE UTAH LAW WHICH
IS A WILD VIOLATION THE FIRST
AMENDMENT AND I PROMISE YOU
YOU'LL SEE A LAWSUIT AGAINST IT
VERY SOON. THE FACT THAT IT
DOESN'T ATTEMPT TO NARROWLY
DEFINE THINGS. NOW WITH THE
SPONSOR DOES MAKE REALLY GOOD
EXAMPLES OF THINGS LIKE THOSE
KINDS FENNEL. THOSE ARE CLEARLY
DEFINED IN OUR LAW TODAY. BUT
THE IDEA OF HARM TO USER. WHAT
DOES THAT MEAN. I DON'T KNOW
WHAT WILL TRIGGER SOMEBODY TO BE
HAPPY OR SAD. AND THIS LAW
ESSENTIALLY MAKES ME LIABLE FOR
KNOWING EXACTLY HOW EVERYBODY
FEELS ALL THE TIME AND THEN
FINDS ME A QUARTER MILLION
DOLLARS IF I GET IT WRONG. WE
ASK THAT YOU RESPECT WOULD NOT
MOVE THIS LEGISLATION ALREADY
WERE WEARING TODAY THANK YOU SIR
BUT WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY
TO WORK WITH THE SPONSOR ON FOR
THEIR LANGUAGE THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT OTHERS WHO WERE IN
OPPOSITION OR HERE IN THE
HEARING IF YOU APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE GIVE US YOUR NAME
YOUR FILIATION YOUR POSITION.
AFTERNOON TURN MEMBERS NEARLY
DRAWN ON BEHALF OF THE- COMPUTER
AND COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION AND RESPECT
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. CHUZZLEWIT
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU. JAMIE
HALF WITH YOU JACK IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL AS IN PRINT THANK
YOU. OTHERS IN OPPOSITION ALL
RIGHT SEEING NO FURTHER
INDIVIDUALS APPROACH IS LIKE
FROM THE START OF THE PHONE
LINES MATTER IF YOU QUEUE UP
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND IN
OPPOSITION- S. B. TWO EIGHTY
SEVEN. IF YOU'RE A PRINT ORDER
OPPOSITION YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND
THEN ZERO. AND WE WILL GO TO
LINE ONE AWAIT. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HELLO MY NAME IS BRANDY
DST. AND I AM A I AM SUPPORTING
. SB TWO EIGHT SEVEN. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU NEXT TO BOTTOM LINE
ONE SEVENTY ONE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. YEAH THANK YOU ARE
TRACING. BURKE CALLING ON BEHALF
OF OPEN PRIVACY WE ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. IN PRINT
AND STILL TAKING A LOOK AT THE
AND THEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE AT ONE
SIXTY FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HELLO THIS IS JEFF WEINER FROM
JEWISH FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S
SERVICES AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
AT TWO EIGHT SEVEN THANK YOU
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MEXICO LINE
. ONE SEVENTY SIX. SANDERLING
OCCUR NIELSEN MARKS ARE ON THE
AFTER THE CAMP CONTRA COSTA
COUNTY IN SUPPORT AND- THANK YOU
. THE LINE. ONE SEVENTY NINE.
GOOD AFTERNOON TIM LYNCH ON
BEHALF OF THE ENTERTAINMENT
SOFTWARE ASSOCIATION AND WE'RE
OPPOSED TO EIGHTY SEVEN. THANK
YOU. ONE SEVENTY FIVE AIRLINES
OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON RUNOFF
FILMING WITH THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE
REASONS STATED BY TECH THAT WE
ARE AT RESPECTIVOS THANK YOU
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND WE HAVE
NO FURTHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
IF YOU ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE OF QUESTIONS
COMMENTS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT IS. YES CENTER ALRP- WELL
FIRST OF ALL WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR. YOU BRING FOR THIS.
IMPORTANT MATTER AND- IT'S
OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT IS ON
EVERYBODY'S MINDS- I HATE FIVE
SO I'M I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
ONE OF THE BROAD GOALS THAT YOU
HAVE IN THE BILL- I DO. I WANTED
TO FOLLOW UP A BIT ON SOME OF
THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED- IN TERMS OF THE
DEFINITION OF ADDICTION AND- YOU
KNOW I GUESS ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS IS HERE HOW DO WE HOW
DO WE KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE
FOCUS THIS BILL ON. ON
ADDRESSING- KIND OF THE COURT
QUESTIONS OF CULPABILITY WITH
REGARDS TO MENTAL HEALTH. IN A
WAY THAT IS ACTUALLY. DOABLE AND
REASONABLE- AND YOU KNOW I LOOK
AT. I LOOK AT SOME OF THE
DEFINITIONS- IN ON AYE AYE YOU
KNOW. THINGS ABOUT KIND OF
CAUSING MENTAL- MENTAL HARM
LET'S SEE HERE YEAH- CAUSING
MENTAL EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENTAL
MATERIAL HARM. HI AND. AND
INDEPENDENT A- YOU KNOW
DIFFICULTY TO CEASE OR REDUCE
USE OF. AND I GUESS I WONDER
WHETHER WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP
SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE- SO THAT
THIS DOESN'T. TOYS SPIN OUT OF
CONTROL. I LOVE TO GET YOUR
TAKE. A SENATORS TO. AS TO. ON
HOW TO HOW TO REALLY HAVE TO
CRAFT THIS IN A WAY THAT'S GOING
TO BE IT'S GONNA BE WORKABLE
IT'S GOING TO GET TO THE CORE
GOALS THAT WE ALL SHARE- WELL
WILD WILD WILD. ONE NIGHT OF
OPENING. UP THE DOOR TO. YOU
KNOW. AND REASONABLE LEVEL OF
LITIGATION. I'M. THANK YOU-
SYNDROME FOR THE QUESTION IT'S
YOU KNOW WHEN I- DEALING WITH
THIS BILL I'VE- THIS IS ONE OF
THESE- TRICKY THINGS BECAUSE IT
IS THESE DEFINITIONS ARE HARD TO
COME BY AND YET WHAT WE'VE SEEN
WHAT THE RESEARCH SHOWS US IS
THAT- THE RISE IN TEEN SUICIDES
FOR EXAMPLE. IS HAS BEEN ALMOST
COMPLETELY CORRELATED WITH THE
INTRODUCTION. OF SOCIAL MEDIA
SITES SO BEGINNING IN TWENTY
TEN. AND INCREASING
UNFORTUNATELY EACH YEAR THERE
AFTER NOW THEY'RE YOU KNOW
THEY'RE SOME STAYS THAT SHOW
THERE WAS A PANDEMIC BOB BUT- IT
EVEN KNOWS WHEN THEY- CORRELATED
WITH THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF
TIME THAT. YOUNG PEOPLE WERE
USING SCREENS AND USING SOCIAL
MEDIA THEY FOUND THAT IT WAS
MORE CORRELATED TO THAT AND
QUOTE UNQUOTE THE PANDEMIC. WHEN
WE EAT THE DATA SHOWS NOW THAT
KIDS AGED ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN
SPEND AN AVERAGE OF NINE HOURS A
DAY ON SCREEN AND H. FIFTEEN
EIGHTEEN SPEND AN AVERAGE OF
SEVEN HALF HOURS A DAY. SO I
WELCOME. IMPROVEMENTS THAT
DEFINITION AROUND THE ADDICTION-
BECAUSE I SHARE THAT YOU KNOW
IT'S ONE OF THESE- HARDER TO
DEFINE WHAT I THINK IS A LITTLE
EASIER TO DEFINE IS THAT IS THE
PARTS AROUND THE DO HARM. TO
KIDS AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS
RESEARCH THAT SHOWS FOR EXAMPLE.
VARIOUS RESEARCHERS WHO
PRETENDED TO BE TEEN GIRLS AND
IN USING CERTAIN SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS WERE RECOMMENDED TO
ASIDE CONTENT WITHIN EIGHT
MINUTES. END WERE DIRECTED TO
EATING DISORDER CONTENT EVERY
THIRTY NINE SECONDS. AND THAT IS
DOCUMENTED RESEARCH. ON NOW
INTEL I MEAN I WAS I HAVE NO
IMAGES- INTERCONNECTS OPPOSITION
THEY'VE INDICATED THAT- THE BILL
IN PRINT NOW BUT- THERE'S BEEN
NO AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED BY THE
OPPOSITION WHICH I WOULD BE
HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH
SOME SO. I WELCOME THAT AND
OBVIOUSLY IF IT WERE SUCCESSFUL
TODAY THE BILL STILL HAS A LONG
WAY TO GO. AND I'M VERY OPEN TO-
TWO SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT
THAT THAT GET OUT WHAT. IT'S ONE
OF THE REASONS WHY AND SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT I AGREE TO
MANDATE THEY DID SEEM TO- WHAT'S
THE WORD AT. I MASS STRUGGLING
WITH THE RIGHT. LIKE TENUOUS
THEY DIDN'T SEE THERE DIDN'T YOU
WAS HARD IN THE DIFFERENT
DEFINITIONS WERE NOT.
SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH FOR EVEN ME
TO BE ABLE TO FEEL LIKE OKAY SO
THAT'S WHY I WAS MORE THAN HAPPY
TO AGREE TO THOSE AMENDMENTS.
AND I'M OPEN TO ADDITIONAL INPUT
SO NOW I GET HIS PRIVATE PRIVATE
YACHTS ALWAYS THESE PLACES YOU
GET INDUSTRY GROUPS WHO OPPOSE A
BILL LIKE THIS THEY JUST WANT TO
SEE THE BILL GO AWAY. SO THEY'RE
NOT ALWAYS INCLINED TO TRY TO
MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR YOU AND
SUGGEST AMENDMENTS BUT- I THINK
THERE MEMBERS. LIKE ME WHO WANT
YOU KNOW SUPPORT THE CORBELS
YOUR BILL- BUT WE KNOW WOULD
LOVE TO SEE IT AND GET A LITTLE
TIGHTER- AND SO I YOU KNOW I'M
CERTAINLY. YOU KNOW WOULD LOVE
TO. YEAH BUT I DON'T I DON'T
KNOW WHAT SORT OF WHAT WHAT KIND
OF FURTHER WORK IS. I GUESS ME
OF AUTHORS BACK TO THE CHAIR WAS
WAS IS A CONCERN. AS YOU WERE
WORKING ON THIS BILL AND YOU
KNOW WHAT KIND OF FURTHER WORK
DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE COMMITTEE
AGING AND- ON SOME OF THESE
DEFINITIONS JUST TO- BECAUSE I
KNOW I KNOW I WAS YOU YOU
SUPPORT THE PROGRESS THE BILL AS
WELL. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR DO
YOU HAVE QUESTIONED ME SURROUND
YEAH YEAH ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S
HERE'S HERE'S THE CHALLENGE WAS
AN INFINITY YEAH IN PARTICULAR.
I'M SORRY ONE OF MY LOOKING FOR
RIGHT WELL WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING
FOR IN IN IN- IS THERE ARE SOME
FURTHER WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE
SOME FURTHER WORK FROM THE
COMMITTEE WHICH REALLY HAS THE
EXPERTISE IN THIS SPACE- WITH
REGARDS TO TIGHTENING SOME OF
THE LANGUAGE ON. AT THE TOP OF
PAGE FOR- HE KNOWS. DID DID DID
MANAGE WILL REALLY BE THE WAY WE
DEFINING ADDICTION IS A COULD BE
JUST DIFFICULTY TO SEEK TO
REDUCE USE OF. OR CAUSING ANY
SORT OF. EMOTIONAL HARM. RIGHT
SO I THINK THAT THERE IS I'M
GONNA SUPPORT THE BILL. YEAH AND
THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT
AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN I
THINK THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF WORK THAT STILL NEEDS
TO BE DONE- JUST TAKING THE WORD
FOR EXAMPLE ADDICTION THERE
THERE IS AN ACTUAL DEFINITION.
WITH RESPECT TO ADDICTION THAT
EXIST IN THE LITERATURE AND I
THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY YOUNG
PEOPLE AS BEING DEFINED HERE TO.
IN MANY RIGHT MANY YOUNG PEOPLE
MANY OTHERS WHO ARE DUE TO MEET
THE CLASSIC. DEFINITION OF
ADDICTION OUT HAVING FUN ME BUT
WHERE IT INTERFERES WITH YOUR
ABILITY TO FUNCTION IN LIFE. SO
THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS
THIS IS HOW I LOOK AT IT AND
WE'RE NOT READY YET TO BE ABLE
TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOUP. IS A
LOOK AT IT FROM TWO PERSPECTIVES
I LOOK AT IT FROM THE
PERSPECTIVE OF A LAWYER WHO SEES
IT THERE'S A HARM AND THERE'S A
HARM THAT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED.
AND IN THIS CASE IF YOU'RE
PUBLIC PROSECUTOR HOW DO YOU
STRUCTURE THE COMPLAINT WHAT DO
YOU ALLEGE. AS TO BOTH THE HARM
IN THE ELEMENTS THE ELEMENTS
THAT NEED TO BE PROVED EITHER BY
A PREPONDERANCE OR IF IT'S A
CRIMINAL MATTER BY BEYOND. A
REASONABLE DOUBT. TO A FINDER OF
FACT PRESUMABLY A JURY WHO'S
MADE UP OF YOU KNOW ORDINARY
CITIZENS SO THAT'S THE FIRST
STEP IS DRAFTING THE COMPLAINT
THE SECOND STEP IS. FROM THE
PERSPECTIVE OF A JUDGE WHO'S
INSTRUCTING THE JURY TO SAY. YOU
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN MUST FIND
THE FOLLOWING IN TERMS OF
ELEMENTS AND IT HAS TO BE CLEAR
ENOUGH. THAT ARE YOU KNOW
ORDINARY CITIZENS CAN BE ABLE TO
TAKE THAT DEFINITION. AND APPLY
IT TO THE FACTS INCOME WITH AN
OUTCOME BECAUSE IT'S TOO VAGUE.
THEN YOU'VE GOT BIG CHALLENGES
IN TERMS OF SECTION TWO THIRTY.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PUSHING THE
ENVELOPE ON SECTION TWO THIRTY-
I AM. INTERESTED IN WRITING A
BILL TO DEAL WITH THIS-
INCREDIBLE HARM. THAT WE CAN DO
IT IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT.
WITH BEING ABLE TO. ASSUME THAT
SECTION TWO THIRTY IS NOT
AMENDED IS NOT- SIGNIFICANTLY.
REDUCED IN SCOPE AND CONTENT- IN
A WAY THAT CAN STILL BE ENFORCED
ONE PASSES MUSTER ALL THE WAY UP
TO AND INCLUDING UNITED STATES
SUPREME COURT. SO OF THE ANSWER
QUESTIONS CENTER ALLEN YES I
THINK THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF
WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE- I
KNOW THAT THAT CENTER SKINNER
AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS
AND- I EXPECTED. THAT WHEN WE
LOOK AT IT FROM THE TWO
PERSPECTIVES I JUST EXPLAINED.
THAT IF IT'S NOT READY FOR PRIME
TIME THAT'LL COME BACK TO THIS
COMMITTEE AND EITHER WE'LL GET
IT READY FOR PRIME TIME OR WILL
PUT ALL OVER- TO DO FURTHER WORK
ON THAT AND ALL OF THAT RESPONSE
YOUR QUESTION YEAH- NO I
APPRECIATE I JUST I. YOU KNOW I
THINK. I THE STATE WORDED WE'RE
IN A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE THAN
THE OPPOSITION BECAUSE I THINK
OF THEIR A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING
TO SEE SOME PROGRESS MADE ON
THIS ISSUE I DO THINK THERE'S A
LOT OF. POTENTIAL DEVIL'S IN THE
DETAILS I MEAN YOU KNOW THE
DEFINITION OF. ADDICTION I YOU
KNOW I THINK. I DO WONDER.
SOMETIMES ON- YOU KNOW ON ON
THIS KNOWLEDGE QUESTION RIGHT
THAT THAT YOU KNOW THE EXTENT TO
WHICH A COMPANY- YOU KNOW. YOU
SHOULD KNOW- YOU KNOW OR BY THE
RECORD WERE EXERCISE REASONABLE
CARE SHOULD KNOW. I MEAN I
WONDER WHETHER I WOULD I WOULD
HOPE THAT WE WOULDN'T. THE THAT
AS WE- AS WE KIND OF HOME THAT
LANGUAGE THAT WE NOT DO ANYTHING
TO CREATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES
FOR COMPANIES NOT TO KNOW- YOU
KNOW SO AS TO REDUCE THEIR
LIABILITY- WELL NOTED. TO
FURTHER RESPOND YEAH- WE'VE
CRAFTED BILLS I'VE KEPT BILLS
FACTORS ONE PENDING THIS YEAR
THAT PUTS COMPANY ON NOTICE POST
PUTS THE SOCIAL MEDIA- PLATFORM
ON NOTICE. THAT THEY KNOW OR
SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT WHATEVER
THEY'RE DOING IS CREATING.
ADDICTIVE CONTENT WE HAVE A BIG
CHALLENGE WITH DEFINING CONTENT
THAT HAVE A BIG CHALLENGE IN
DEFINING ADDICTIVE THAT. IT WELL
DONE YES WE HAVE. MANY JOBS WE
HAVE BIG BIG CHALLENGE AND IN
DEFINING- WHAT WHAT IS A
MESSAGE- THE DEFINITION OF
MESSAGE DEFINITION OF RECEIVING
SOMETHING YOU'RE LIABLE FOR
RECEIVING SOMETHING RECEIVING
CONTENT. YEAH WHAT WHAT EXACT
THAT MEET I AM I REALIZE THAT
THAT I'M- ADDRESSING CERTAIN
ISSUES THAT. APPEAR TO BE VAGUE
I AM PREPARED TO SUPPORT THE
BILL YEAH BUT I AM ALSO PREPARED
TO CALL THAT BILL BACK IF IT
DOESN'T MEET THE- DOESN'T MEET
THE CHALLENGE OF WHAT A LAWYER
WOULD NEED TO A LEGEND WHAT A
JUDGE WOULD NEED TO INSTRUCT THE
JURY AND WHAT A JURY. WOULD
REASONABLY BE REQUIRED TO APPLY
TO THE FACTS AS- RIGHT
INEVITABLE EVEN TO US COMING OUT
RECEIVING RECEIVING INFORMATION
MATERIAL I MEAN YOU KNOW I GUESS
THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT.
YOU KNOW WHAT IF YOU'VE GOT
FOLKS THAT USED TO ABUSE THE
SERVICE THAT ARE KIND OF OUT TO
ABUSE THE SERVICE. YOU KNOW WHAT
IT WHAT IT WHAT POINT DOES THE
COMPANY HAVE SOME FORM OF SAFE
HARBOR. IF THEY'VE TAKEN ALL
SORTS OF YOU KNOW REASONABLE
STEPS BY THE PLATFORM TO
SAFEGUARD AGAINST SET RECORDS IN
IN THE BILL ADDRESS AT LEAST
PARTLY. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS SAFE
HARBOR IN TOTALITY AT THIS POINT
BUT BUT THERE IS A PROVISION FOR
SAFE HARBOR. AND THERE'S ALSO. A
BITE OF REQUIRING PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS TO. ALLEGE THAT THAT
THERE IS A WRONG THAT THERE IS A
VIOLATION OF THE LAW. THERE'S
ANOTHER LEVEL OF- OF SCRUTINY AT
LEAST- BEFORE BEFORE THIS
ACTUALLY IT A COMPLAINT THAT'S
FILED. MR JUST ON THAT FINAL
POINT- AND I REALLY APPRECIATE.
THE BILL'S YEARS OBVIOUSLY BIG
BILL. I'M EITHER. ON THIS HOLY
SO I UNDERSTOOD THE PUBLIC. OUR
FOCUS BILL NYE DO IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT UNDER THIS
UNDER THE LAW. A PRIVATE. FIRM
CAN. CAN BASICALLY GO TO THE AG
AND SAY HEY LET US TAKE ON THE
CASE- AND AS LONG AS THE AG
SIGNS OFF THAT'S- IT IS UNDER.
NOT NOT EXACTLY I MEAN IT IN THE
PUBLIC PROSECUTOR LAW THAT'S
RIGHT THAT A PUBLIC PROSECUTOR
CAN. AFFILIATE WITH- A PRIVATE
SECTOR ENTITY BUT THAT PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS STILL HAS TO
REMAINING CONTROLLED STILL HAS
TO BE- THE KEY DECISION MAKER
WITH RESPECT TO ALL FIVE
CRITICAL DISCUSSION SORRY
DISCRETE FORGET DIS INTERVENOR
YOU'RE DOING A GOOD EXPLANATION
YOU'RE THE LAWYER NOT AYE
HOWEVER I THINK THAT. IT IS. SO
AS WE KNOW. INDIVIDUALS ENTITIES
BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR
DA'S OF R. AG ALL KINDS OF YOU
KNOW OFTEN IT IS NOT JUST THAT
OFFICE. THAT IS THE INITIATOR
THE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR
ATTENTION SO THIS BILL STILL
PUTS. THE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
TAKE ANY PROSECUTORIAL ACTION
COMPLETELY IN THE HANDS. OF THE
PUBLIC PROSECUTOR IT CANNOT
WHILE THEY IT DOESN'T PREVENT AN
EXTERNAL PARTY FOR BRINGING
SOMETHING TO THEIR ATTENTION
THAT EXTERNAL PARTY CANNOT BE
THE INITIATOR OF THE ACTION.
SURGERIES ONE CORNER FIGHT AND
MAKE SENSE. AND TO THE POINT OF-
OBVIOUSLY. I'M STILL COMMITTED
TO WORKING ON DEFINITIONS AND I
APPRECIATED THAT THE COMMITTEE
WAS LOOK IF WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO
COME UP WITH A DEFINITION THAT
WE THOUGHT WERE WOW THIS IS
SOLID THIS IS ROCK TIGHT WE
WOULD HAVE DONE IT. SO WE ARE
THIS WE ARE STILL WORKING ON
THAT BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S THOUGHTFULNESS IN
THE ANALYSIS. AND IN TERMS OF
THIS QUESTION AROUND THE
LEGALITY OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO
BE IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IT'S
GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO COURT BUT
THIS DOES NOT REGULATE THE
CONTENT IT REGULATES THE
ALGORITHM THE DIRECTING OF THE
USER. TO CERTAIN CONTENT IN THE
EXAMPLES I GAVE WERE WHERE USERS
WERE DIRECTED TO CONTENT
LITERALLY. EVERY THIRTY NINE
SECONDS. I'M LOOKING FOR IN THE
REST CASH SO IN AND OF THE
SECTION TWO THIRTY THE U. S.
SUPREME COURT'S I THINK GOING TO
RELEASE AN OPINION INVOLVES CASE
IN JUNE THAT SHOULD GIVE US
FURTHER. INFORMATION AS TO HOW
TO STRUCTURE- LEGISLATION
LEGISLATION SO THIS WAY YEAH
RIGHT ALL RIGHT SO WE A NUMBER
OF FOLKS. THANK YOU CENTER ALLEN
FOR THE COLLOQUY OF CINNAMON.
THEN SENATOR S. B. THEN SENATOR
WIENER. THANK YOU AYE AYE- AS A
FATHER YOUNG CHILDREN I AM.
DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT. SOCIAL
MEDIA AND THEIR IMPACTS ON MY
KIDS MY KIDS RIGHT NOW TWELVE
TEN AND SEVEN- THERE ON A LOT OF
YOU TOO THEY'RE NOT ON WE DON'T
LET THEM HAVE OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA
ACCOUNTS AT THIS POINT BUT I
KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF PROBLEM-
A LOT OF CONCERN AROUND THIS.
THAT BEING SAID I DID YOU KNOW
JUST WANT TO BREAK THIS DOWN A
LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I I'VE
CONCERNS AND I KNOW FIRST HAND
HOW DIFFICULT IT IS WORKING ON A
BILL WHERE THE OPPOSITION. IS
NOT EVEN MEETING YOU LIKE ONE
TENTH OF THE WAY NOT HELPING OUT
WITH WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT YOU JUST POP THE POP THEM
ON YOU. IN HEARINGS- AND IN THAT
CAN BE FRUSTRATING BUT I DO
THINK THERE ARE SOME LEGITIMATE
CONCERNS THAT I SEE HERE- AS I
TAKE IT THE SCHEME OF THIS BILL
IS TO. TRY TO- FIND WHERE'S
PLACES WHERE THERE'S CAUSATION
OR MAYBE CORRELATION AT
SOMETHING ON REYES IN A SECOND-
BETWEEN SOCIAL MEDIA ALGORITHMS
AND CERTAIN. ADVERSE OUTCOMES. I
AND I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME THE
GOAL OF THIS BILL IS REALLY TO
FOR SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES. INTO
THE SAFE HARBOR- WHERE THEY WILL
DO QUARTERLY AUDITS- AND THEN IF
THEY FIND IF THERE'S MORE THAN A
DE MINIMUS RISK I THINK THAT'S
THE LANGUAGE HERE. OF HAVING ANY
ADVERSE IMPACTS BY IN THEIR
ALGORITHMS THAT THEY HAVE TO
CORRECT THEM. BUT BUT I HAVE
SOME CONCERNS- IN THERE THERE'S
A FEW THESE ELEMENTS I JUST SAY
I'LL KNOCK OUT BECAUSE I THINK
THEY'RE CLEAR AND I SUPPORT. FOR
THEM- ANYTHING THAT FACILITATES
THE PURCHASE OF A CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE. I DIET PILLS GUNS
LIKE OBVIOUSLY THAT SHOULD BE
VERBOTEN- BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT
IS SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS I
DEVELOPING AN EATING DISORDER.
INFLICTING HARM I EXPERIENCING
ADDICTION. JUST BECAUSE THE
CONVERSATION TO ME IS THE
IMPORTANT ELEMENT HERE AND
TRADITIONALLY IN CONTRACTS AS WE
ALL KNOW. THEIR CAUSATION IN A
CERTAIN THING BUT- THE EXAMPLES
THAT WE YOU KNOW THIS POINTED TO
AN ANALYSIS IS A WOMAN WHO
STOPPED. YOU KNOW PERFECT
BODIES. ON INSTAGRAM AND- ANY IS
THAT CAUSATION- IN THE
CORRELATION I THINK YOU BROUGHT
UP IN YOUR YOUR STATEMENT
EARLIER THAT. THERE'S A HUGE
CORRELATION BETWEEN SOCIAL
MEDIA. USAGE. AND NEGATIVE SELF
IN AND- I AND SOME OF ADVERSE
OUTCOME- BUT- IS THAT THE SAME
IS CAUSATION I THINK THE WAY
THIS IS SET UP. THE CONCERN I
HAVE IS. WHEN WE SAY ANY ANY
DESIGNER ALGORITHM A PRACTICE
THAT PRESENTS MORE THAN A DE
MINIMUS RISK OF. VIOLATING ABOUT
THAT IS TO SAY OF LEADING TO- AN
EATING DISORDER OR LEADING TO
HARM ON THEMSELVES OR THE OTHERS
OR LEADING TO A DICTION. TO
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM- TO ME
THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY VERY LOW
BAR- THAT'S REALLY NOT CAUSATION
AT THIS POINT IT'S SOMETHING
MUCH LESS THAN THAT. AND I GUESS
I'M I'M I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO REGULATE YOU KNOW IT.
FOR MANY MANY YEARS NOW IT'S
BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED THAT. YOUNG
GIRLS WILL SEE PICTURES- YOU
KNOW GOING BACK TO LIKE THE
SEVENTIES OR SIXTIES. OR
PROBABLY EARLIER. NEED SEE
PICTURES OF. OF THE IDEALIZED
BODY TYPE IN ENFIELD NEGATIVE
ABOUT THEMSELVES THEY DID THAT
MIGHT LEAD TO THINGS BUT- BUT IS
THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO OUTLAW
YOU KNOW IS THAT SOMETHING WE
WANT TO. YOU KNOW HOLD SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR.
I'M NOT SURE AND I WORRY THAT
THAT'S A LITTLE OVER BROAD THAT
THAT IT'S GOING TO CAPTURE A LOT
MORE- THEN THEN WE INTEND TO AND
SO- I GUESS THAT'S A LONG WAY OF
SAYING. I SHARE SOME OF THE
CONCERNS MY COLLEAGUE REYES- I
WILL VOTE FOR THIS BILL TODAY
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN
IMPORTANT. SET OF POLICY
PRIORITIES BUT I WOULD JUST. SAY
THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
START YOU'RE REALLY GETTING THIS
RIGHT WITH THE HELP OF STAFF AND
OTHERS BECAUSE- THERE ARE SOME
DEFINITIONS THERE THAT THAT
HAVE. BEEN MENTIONED AS HAVE
BEEN MENTIONED THAT. ARE LOOSE
THAT THEY COULD LEAD TO A LOT OF
I THINK. OVER BREATH IN
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND- SO
I WILL STOP THERE BUT- THAT'S
NOT REALLY QUESTIONS ALONG
COMMENT. NOTED THANK YOU CENTER
MEN AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT
BUT THERE'S SOME MEMBERS THAT
HAVE TO BE IN OTHER PLACES HERE
AND SO. CENTER SKINNER FUEL
INDULGES FOR ONE MOMENT I'M
GOING TO ASK THE SECRETARY. CALL
THE ROLL ON ALL THE BILLS THAT
ARE CURRENTLY. UP PENDING. SO WE
CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ON.
THE RIGHT NOW WITH THE WE CAN DO
THAT RIGHT NOW. IN THE MIDDLE
ALL RIGHT WE ALL RIGHT OUTSIDE
WELL I. COULD SEE THAT THERE'S
UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR- NOT DOING
THIS. SO ALL RIGHT. OKAY RIGHT-
WE WILL. AT THE CONCLUSION OF
THIS WILL LIFT THE CALL ON ALL
THE BILL'S THEM OKAY- SENATOR-
ASHBY. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND
THAT. NORMALLY I TRY TO BE AS
BRIEF AND SUCCINCT AS POSSIBLE
AND I'LL STILL ATTEMPT TO DO
THAT BUT THIS IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT BILL. AND A VERY
STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT IT. AND I
FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE
THEM FOR ONE THING THERE'S A
CLEAR THAT. GENDER IMBALANCE ON
THIS COMMITTEE. AND IN OFTEN IN
ELECTED OFFICE ALTHOUGH
CALIFORNIA IS DOING BETTER AND
BETTER ALL THE TIME BUT- IN. IN
A LOT OF TIMES RULE MAKERS IN
THE ROOM. OTHER WOMEN AREN'T IN
THERE. AND SO I'M I'M GONNA
SPEAK TO THIS TODAY. AND FIRST I
WANT TO JUST THANK YOU SENATOR
SKINNER FOR BRINGING THE BILL
FORWARD IT. I KNOW IT'S IN
PERFECT AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW
THAT TOO- BUT THIS IS A PROCESS
THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WORK ON THAT
ALL THE WAY ACROSS THAT FINISH
LINE AND I KNOW YOU'LL DO IT.
AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT SO
I'M- WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP
YOU I WILL DO. IT IS IMPORTANT
THAT WE GET CLEAR CONCISE.
DEFINITIONS OF THOSE CRITICAL
TERMS. SO THAT IT IS ENFORCEABLE
BECAUSE IT WILL BE CHALLENGED
FOR SURE. BUT I WANTED TO STAND
UP- IN ACTUALLY I WOULD BE PROUD
IF IT WAS REPLICATED IN OTHER
PLACES AS LONG AS WE CAN GET.
THE CONCISENESS OF IT. WHEN
YOU'RE A WOMAN WHO IS I DON'T
CARE IF YOU'RE A REPORTER. OR AN
ELECTED OFFICIAL YOU LEARN REAL
QUICK ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA. IT'S
NOT ABOUT THE IMAGES THAT WE GO
OUT TO FIND WHICH SOME OF YOU
ARE REFERENCING. GOING AND
SEEING THAT YOUR FRIENDS ARE ON
A BOAT AND- THEN IN YOUR MIND
EVERYONE'S ON ABOUT. THAT'S NOT
HOW THIS WORKS WHEN YOU'RE A
WOMAN ON SOCIAL MEDIA COMES AT
YOU. YOUR TARGETED QUICKLY.
QUICKLY AND THE MORE FRIENDS AND
FOLLOWERS YOU HAVE. THE MORE
TARGETING YOU GET YOU DON'T
BELIEVE ME STARTED ACCOUNT
PRETEND YOU'RE A WOMAN AND RUN
FOR OFFICE WITH OUR PRETEND
YOU'RE A REPORTER. AND SEE WHAT
KIND OF MESSAGES YOU GET IN THE
FIRST COUPLE WEEKS. I PROMISE
YOU'LL HAVE A LOT CLEAR VISION
OF WHAT SOPHIE WAS TALKING ABOUT
. IT TOOK EVERY BIT OF MY MOM
HARD TO HOLD MYSELF BACK IN THE
SEAT. AND NOT WALK DOWN THERE
AND HUG EVERY VERSION OF HERSELF
THAT SHE BORE HER SOUL TO. OF
ALL OF YOU HERE. THESE ISSUES
YOU'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT. SOME
GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THERE
IS NO FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.
THAT ENTITLES YOU TO USE AN
ALGORITHM TO PLACE HARMFUL
MESSAGES AND IMAGES. IN FRONT OF
CHILDREN. THAT'S NOT A FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHT THERE'S NO FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS AT LEAST THERE
WASN'T AT THE LAW SCHOOL I WENT
TO. SEE ONE OF MY LAW SCHOOL
CLASSMATES HERE DID I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU HEARD THAT. IN CLASS I
DIDN'T. WE HAD PRETTY GOOD FIRST
AMENDMENT PROF TO. HE WORKED ON
THE SUPREME COURT SO I'M JUST
GUESSING HE WAS RIGHT. THIS IS
ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S ABOUT
BUILDING INTO YOUR PLATFORM THE
ABILITY TO MONITOR THOSE
MESSAGES. AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR
CLIENTS. WHO ARE SOMETIMES
THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRLS. AND
WHEN YOU REPEATEDLY. GET
MESSAGES THAT SAY YOU NEED TO BE
ON A DIET. REPEATEDLY OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AS THE ADS. THAT
ARE COMING TO YOU THAT'S
DIFFERENT. THAN LOOKING AT THE
SKINNY BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS. THAT'S
NOT THE SAME. WHEN IS A TARGET
ON YOUR BACK. THE OTHERS WHO YOU
CHOSE TO FOLLOW SO CENTERS CAN I
WANTED KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S
PROBABLY WORK TO BE DONE I READ
IT VERY CAREFULLY. BUT I'M I'M
WITH YOU ALL THE WAY TO GET IT
RIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY
IMPORTANT SOCIAL MEDIA HAS A LOT
OF VERY POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT IT
CONNECTS US TO EACH OTHER GET TO
SHARE OUR STORIES WITH EACH
OTHER. GET TO SEE OUR FRIENDS
AND FAMILY THAT WE DON'T LIVE
CLOSE TO IT MAKES THE WORLD A
LITTLE BIT SMALLER. AND THAT'S
WONDERFUL AND I DON'T WANT OVER
LITIGATED BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT
YOUNG WOMEN TO GO ONLINE AND BE
ABLE TO BUY FENTON ALL OR YOUNG
MEN TO GO ONLINE AND BUY A GUN
OR YOUNG WOMEN TO BE BOMBARDED
OVER AND OVER AND OVER. WITH THE
IDEA THAT THEY AREN'T GOOD
ENOUGH AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
THEM SEEKING OUT THAT
INFORMATION I'M TALKING ABOUT
THAT INFORMATION. LANDING IN
THEIR LAPS WITHOUT THEM LOOKING
FOR IT SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
HARD WORK AND AT THE PROPRIA
HOME I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE HER
BILL. I THANK YOU CENTER SB
CENTER WIENER. I THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN- SO I SUPPORT THIS BILL
IN VOTING FOR IT- I THINK IT'S
ADDRESSING SOME VERY VERY REAL.
EXTREME PARKS AND WE CAN ADD TO
WHAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT TODAY I
MEAN THE TARGETING WOMEN BUT YOU
KNOW THE- THE- TARGETING OF. THE
OF ALSO BE T. Q. PEOPLE AND UP
TO THE TIDAL WAVE OF HOMOPHOBIA
AND TRANSPHOBIA. ON SOCIAL MEDIA
THAT NONE OF THE PLATFORMS IS
DOING. A GOOD JOB. ADDRESSING A
FACT TWITTER IS ENCOURAGING IT-
AND SO- THERE THERE ARE REAL
REAL REAL HARMS- AND SO I
APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE DOING.
THIS BILL I'M GOING TO JUST-
EXPRESS A FEW. CONCERNS
RESERVATIONS WHICH HAVE
EXPRESSED OF SPONSORS WHEN I
WOULD EXPRESS TO YOU I EXPRESSED
SOME TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER WORKS
LAST YEAR- AND JUST FOR
CONSIDERATION GOING FORWARD. ONE
IS THAT. R. BUT I AM. CONCERNED
ABOUT- OVER REACTION BY SOME OF
THE PLATFORMS AND HOW TO ADDRESS
THIS SO. OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT
THAT NO ANYWHERE NEAR SOCIAL
MEDIA AND WE DON'T WANT USED TO
FACILITATE GROWTH ALTHOUGH YOU
KNOW. AS YOU KNOW CENTER I DO A
LOT OF WORK RUN DRUG POLICY. I'M
I CAN I CAN NOT PUT. ANYTHING ON
TECH TALK ABOUT THE DRUG POLICY
WORK I DO TO TRY TO EDUCATE
PEOPLE ABOUT THAT WORK BECAUSE
IT'LL IMMEDIATELY BE FLAGGED.
AND DOWNGRADE BECAUSE TECH TALK
IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO PRESENT
TO. TO AVOID DRUG SELLS ON ITS
PLATFORM WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
BUT IT ENDS UP SWEEPING AND
OTHER THINGS THAT I CAN IMAGINE
EVEN WITH LIKE GUN SALES RIGHT
IF SOMEONE. START POSTING ABOUT
GUN SAFETY BACK GETTING FLAG AND
SO I JUST AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THE SOLUTION IS I JUST WANNA.
FLAG ABOUT. ADDICTION OF COURSE
IS THE ONE WORD BECAUSE IT IS
THE BROADEST OF THE AND IT'S
HARD TO DEFINE IT- A LOT OF
THINGS ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA OUR-
VERDICT OF- AND SO I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE ANSWER IS BUT I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT. THAT WERE AGAIN
NOT HAVING. UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES AND THE REASON THAT
I FOUND THAT THIS. MATTER IS IT
IS ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS WITH SO.
AND I SAID THIS TO US A MEMBER
OF A CLUSTER OF STATES U. S.
HEALTH SPONSORS. I THINK THE-
DEFINITION OF CHILD. SHOULD BE-
IT SHOULD. BE UP TO SIXTEEN NOT
EIGHTEEN. AS YOU THE SIXTEEN
BIRTHDAY THE THAT THAT'S MY-
VIEW I THINK IT'S A- YEAR IS.
VERY DIFFERENT. THAN A THIRTEEN
YEAR OLD. THERE ARE HARMS AND
SOCIAL MEDIA BUT THEY'RE ALSO
THERE IS GOOD AND SOCIAL MEDIA
PARTICULARLY FOR KIDS WHO ARE.
ALONE AND ISOLATED AND AT SEVERE
RISK. I'M PARTICULARLY LGBTQ
KIDS WHO MAY LIVE IN FAMILIES
WHO WITH FAMILIES WHO ARE
HOSTILE TO THEM IN COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE HOSTILE TO THEM. AND
SOCIAL MEDIA IS THEIR ABSOLUTE
LIFELINE. TO KNOWING THAT THERE
ARE PEOPLE LIKE THEM OUT THERE
AND THAT THERE IS HOPE FOR THEM.
IN THE FUTURE AND NOT JUST LGBTQ
KIDS FOR KIDS WHO DON'T FIT IN.
KIDS WHO YOU KNOW WHO ARE
CONSIDERED LIKE YOU KNOW ODD OR
OUT OF THE- THE NORM. THEY COULD
BE FINED THEIR COMMUNITIES AND
SOCIAL MEDIA SO THERE IS HARM
FROM SOCIAL MEDIA BUT THERE IS
ALSO- A LIFELINE A TIME FROM
SOCIAL MEDIA. I DON'T WANT TO
CUT. KIDS OFF. WHO WHOM WHO MAY
NEED THAT TO HAVE HOPE. FOR THE
FUTURE- AND SO I JUST EXPRESS
ALL THE THINGS IN IN IN SUPPORT
OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO BUT
THESE ARE ALL CONCERNS- THAT
THAT I HAVE AND- AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON ON THIS
BILL. THANK YOU CENTER WILL
WIENER CENTENNIAL. THANK YOU ARE
MISTER CHAIR. YOU KNOW AND SOME
OF MY MORE DREAMY MOMENTS. I
WISH SOCIAL MEDIA WOULD JUST GO
AWAY- BUT- THEN I WAKE UP AND
JUST BEFORE I TRY TO PUT MY HEAD
IN THE SAND I SEE. ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE GALLOPING TOWARD
US- IN- SO FAR PRETTY
UNCONTROLLED FASHION SO. SO TO
DRYNESS AND EXPRESSION THAT THE-
CHAIR USED A LITTLE BIT AGO
THAT'S OUR SOUP- I RECOGNIZE
THAT THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE THE
ISSUES THAT THIS BILL ATTEMPTS
TO ADDRESS IT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED FIVE I AGREE WITH
THAT. BUT THE BILL AS IT EXISTS
FIVE ISN'T JUSTIN PERFECT I
THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED
AND IF WE PASS THIS BILL THERE
WILL BE A MEDIA OF LITIGATION.
THAT I THINK WILL LAST A LONG
TIME AND WOULD PREVENT FOR QUITE
A WHILE THE BILL BEING
IMPLEMENTED IN ANY CASE SO- AND
FOR THAT REASON I CAN'T SUPPORT
THIS BILL AS IT IS. BUT I DO
BELIEVE THAT IT IS A REAL ISSUE
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ALL
RIGHTY- CENTER WILK. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN I PRE I
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ON THIS
ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY.
THIS IS MAYBE WHERE THE MOST
FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES IN OUR
SOCIETY TODAY I KNOW BACK IN
NOVEMBER OF TWENTY NINETEEN HAD
A SHOOTING MY LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL
THAT HIGH SCHOOL THAT MY KIDS
WENT TO. IF YOU TOLD ME. WHAT
WOULD BE THE LAST SCHOOL IN
AMERICA TO HAVE A SHOOTING I
WOULD HAVE SAID IT WAS THAT ONE
BUT IT BUT IT IT HAPPENED IT WAS
A KID. WHO ON THE INTERNET
PURCHASE. PIECES TO BUILD A GOT
TO BUILD A GHOST KIND BUT IN THE
AFTERMATH OF THAT I WENT TO ONE
OF THE LOCAL JUNIOR HIGHS AT THE
FEEDER INTO THAT BECAUSE THE
KIDS ARE FREAKED OUT AND THEN
TEACHER CALL ME WHEN YOU COME
TALK TO MY KIDS. SAID NOBLE COME
AND LISTEN AND I GOTTA TELL YOU
I WAS WHEN I LEFT THERE IS VERY
DEPRESSED THESE KIDS GO THROUGH
ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN
GO GO THROUGH AND IT'S MOST OF
IT IS DRIVEN. BY SOCIAL MEDIA I
THINK THERE SHOULD BE PERSON
IDEA SHOULD BE A BAN ON UNTIL I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPER AGES.
BUT- IT IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE
THAT IS TEARING US APART AND
THEN TO ONE OF THE OPPONENTS
SAID WITH THESE PLATFORMS. THEY
DON'T KNOW. THEY DON'T KNOW IF
WHAT THE DO TRIGGER SOMETHING OR
NOT. WELL I REMEMBER WATCHING
THE BBC MOVIE BREXIT WITH- WITH
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH. THAT WAS
ABOUT THE BREXIT CAMPAIGNS WERE
BACK IN TWENTY SIXTEEN. AND
CUMBERBATCH IS MEETING WITH THE
GUY FROM THIS ALGORITHM COMPANY.
AND HE SAID FACEBOOK KNOWS.
YOU'RE GONNA GET A DIVORCE
BEFORE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO
GET DIVORCED. AND HE SAID WE CAN
GO OUT AND- FIND THREE MILLION
VOTERS THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT
AND IN MOTIVATED TO GET TO THE
POLLS MOTIVATED MANIPULATE
WHATEVER THE WORD YOU WANT TO.
DO BUT THAT'S HOW THEY WON THE
CAMPAIGN THAT'S BACK IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN. WHEN YOU SEE THE LEAPS
AND BOUNDS. THAT WE SEE TODAY IN
TECHNOLOGY. DID THIS THIS THING
IS JUST COMPLETELY OUT OF
CONTROL. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
CENTER SKINNER TODAY I'M NOT IT
I THINK THERE ARE FLAWS WITH THE
BILL AND I. I CAN TELL YOU GOT
THE VOTES TO GET IT OUT. BUT I
I'M GONNA LAY OFF FOR TODAY BUT
I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY THINK
CRITICALLY THE OPPOSITION. THAT
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN
MET WITH YOU TO THINK. THAT
THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE
OUT OF THE CLEAR THE ONE THING I
WILL SAY THOUGH THAT I'M A
LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE
CO AUTHOR. OF YOUR NAME IMAGE
AND LIKENESS BILL AND THERE WERE
ISSUES THERE WITH THE NC DOUBLE
A- AND- WE DID THE BILL AND SOME
GOOD CAME OUT OF IT BUT ALSO
SOME UNINTENDED. BAD
CONSEQUENCES THEY THINK THE RICH
ARE GETTING RICHER IN NC DOUBLE
A FOOTBALL NOW WHICH IS OKAY
BECAUSE I'M A TROJAN FAN. BUT-
BUT- BUT I'M BUT I'M- I KNOW I'M
SORRY BUT- BUT SO I'M I'M LAYING
OFF IT TODAY BUT I REALLY I MEAN
I THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE THIS
YOUR FOCAL POINT BECAUSE I MEAN.
IF WE GET THIS RIGHT WHAT A
LEGACY WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS
BUILDING. FOR OUR SOCIETY SO IF
ANYBODY CAN DO IT I THINK IT'S
YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING I AGAIN.
TONIGHT YEAH. ARE ALL RIGHT ALL
RIGHT GOOD UPGRADE WE NEED TO
GET IT RIGHT. WE NEED TO GET
RIGHT SO. OKAY OTHER COMMENTS
QUESTIONS. OPPOSITE YES SENATE
MCGUIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH I'LL
BE VERY BRIEF I KNOW WE HAVE
QUITE A BIT IN FRONT AT FIRST
AND FOREMOST. WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU THE AUTHOR- THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLY. CHALLENGING BILL.
YOU KNOW NOT BUT ONE OF THE
GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT I HAVE- IN
THIS AUTHOR IS THAT SHE GRINDS
IT TOO SHE GETS IT RIGHT. I'M
SHE TAKES ON SOME OF THE
TOUGHEST ISSUES THAT FACES THE
STATE IN THIS NATION. AND SHE
GETS IT RIGHT. AND SHE WORKS THE
ISSUES TO THE BANK. AT SOCIAL
MEDIA AS WE'VE SEEN IN DISASTER
AFTER DISASTER IN THE STATE IT
COULD BE A TOOL FOR GOOD. BUT WE
ALSO HAVE SEEN THE DAMAGE THE
DOES ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS. MY
WIFE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
PRINCIPAL. AND ALMOST EVERY
NIGHT. SHE COMES BACK. AND TALKS
ABOUT HOW TOXIC SOCIAL MEDIA HAS
BEEN. FOR THIRD GRADERS. FOURTH
GRADERS FIFTH GRADERS. IT CAN BE
INCREDIBLY TOXIC. AND DANGEROUS
. AND JUST LIKE EVERYTHING IN
LIFE. THERE HAVE TO BE RULES.
OTHERWISE THOSE WHO. THOSE WHO
EXPLOIT HIM WILL CONTINUE TO DO
SO IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE AS WE
PROCEED AND I JUST WANNA. TAKE A
MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
TAKING THE SIGNED- IT IS A RIGHT
JUST BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET IT
DONE THIS YEAR. THANK YOU SIR
WHY ARE OTHER COMMENTS
QUESTIONS- C. NG NONE. CENTERS
ISRAEL. CONSIDERS GETTING WOULD
LIKE CLOSE THANK YOU I'M- YES
THIS IS NOT EASY AND WHEN A
SENATOR NEAL BROUGHT UP. A AYE I
THOUGHT YOU KNOW. THE TRAGEDY IS
THAT. WE AS THE AS- THE HOME OF
TECHNOLOGY HOMES SILICON VALLEY
CALIFORNIA AND THE REST OF THE
COUNTRY WAS. VERY UNWILLING TO
WE SAID HEY TO REELECT THIS-
THIS ENTIRE INDUSTRY JUST
INNOVATE AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP
HANDS OFF. AND I THINK PERHAPS
WE STAYED HANDS OFF TOO LONG TO
THE POINT NOW WHERE IN TRYING TO
BE HANDS ON IT'S NOT EASY IT IS
NOT EASY. AND YET WE KNOW THERE
IS THIS HARM SO I AM COMMITTED
TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS AND
TO DO MY BEST. TO FULFILL THE
CHALLENGES THAT WERE GIVEN THE
AND YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO DO MY
BEST- BUT I THINK WE HAVE
ANOTHER AND I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE
WE HAVE BEEN EVEN. WORSE A
PROBLEM LOOMING ITS HEAD RIGHT
NOW WITH THE A. I. SO- I
APPRECIATE EVERYONE JOINING WITH
ME AND I WELCOME YOUR
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THAT IT FRIEDMAN. A FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY FOUR SB THREE
SIXTY FIVE CHAIR VOTING I.
WHERE'D LAYERED I'M ACQUIRE.
MCGUIRE I NEED LOW. YOU WILL
KNOW STERN. OTHERS ET WITH
EVERYBODY HAVING LOTUS BILLS OUT
EIGHT TO TWO. ALL RIGHT WE'RE
BACK TO- CENTER GLAZER CENTER
GLAZER I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
PATIENCE TODAY. KAREN MEMBERS
THIS IS SIX EIGHTY THREE IF
THAT'S OKAY WE'LL START THERE
SURE OKAY- FIRST THAT LET ME SAY
THANK YOU TO MY PARTNERS ON THIS
BILL LAWCENTER WILL CONSIDER
WIENER I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS AND I'M HAPPY
TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I'M SURE MANY OF YOU
HAVE- MADE LODGING RESERVATIONS
ON THE INTERNET WHO HAS SINCE-
AND I'M SURE THAT IT'S THAT
WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME THAT- YOU
OF MADE A CHOICE BASED ON WHAT
YOU THOUGHT WAS AN ADVERTISED.
CHEAP OR AFFORDABLE PRICE AND
THEN WHEN YOU FINALLY CLICK
THROUGH- YOU MIGHT FIND THAT THE
IT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE WHEN
ALL THESE EXTRA FEES GET ADDED
ON- AND AT TIMES- WHEN YOU'RE
RESERVING LODGING I CONSUMERS
EVEN CHARGED A NIGHTLY RESORT
FEE- AND ARE NOT TOLD THEY MUST
EVEN PAY THIS FEE UNTIL THEY
ARRIVE AT THE HOTEL. BY THEN
CONSUMERS HAVE VERY LITTLE
CHOICE BUT TO PAY IT SINCE IT'S
LIKELY TOO LATE TO CANCEL INTO
LEGACY GOT ANOTHER PLACE TO
STAY. IN FACT IN TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN THE STUDY WAS
CONDUCTED BY THE FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION AND THEY FOUND RESORT
FEES THAT ARE MANDATORY
UNDISCLOSED AND POSTAL ROOM
RATES ARTIFICIALLY INCREASE THE
SEARCH COSTS AND COGNITIVE COSTS
FOR CONSUMERS THAT WAS THE
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION. SB SIX
EIGHTY THREE WOULD REQUIRE
HOTELS SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND
THIRD PARTY BOOKING SERVICES. TO
DISPLAY THE TOTAL COST OF THE
STATE. INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE
EXTRA FEES SUCH AS TAXES CREDIT
CARD FEES AND RESORT FEES IN THE
ADVERTISED RATE. THIS BILL WOULD
IMPROVE CONSUMER PROTECTIONS.
PREVENT CONFUSION BY PROHIBITING
INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING PRICES.
I WITH ME TODAY IS CHEN. ING
STRUM WHO'S THE STATE DIRECTOR
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC INTEREST
RESEARCH GROUP TO TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT. AND AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME THAT WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. OF
WHEN THIS ISN'T SUPPORT.
PLEASURES IN. HI GOOD EVENING AT
HER OVER MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AGAIN MY NAME IS JENNY
EXTREM AND I'M THE STATE
DIRECTOR OF CALPERS. WERE A
STATEWIDE CONSUMER ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION WORKING TO PROTECT
CONSUMERS AND ENSURE FAIR MARKET
PLACE. AND WE'RE PROUD TO
SUPPORT SB SIXTY THREE AND THEY
CENTER GLAZER FOR HIS WORK ON
THIS LEGISLATION. CONSUMERS
DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT HOW WHAT
YOU'RE WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR
AND HOW MUCH UP FRONT IT'S JUST
THAT SIMPLE. UNFORTUNATELY MANY
COMPANIES INCLUDING HOTELS ARE
BLIND SO UNITS WITH HIDDEN FEES.
MORE AND MORE HOTELS ARE
UNBUNDLING THE COST OF YOUR SAY
ADVERTISING THE ROOM RATE UP
FRONT AND THEN SEPARATE OFTEN
COMPULSORY FEES AT CHECK IN. FOR
THINGS LIKE WIFI PARKING AND USE
OF THE HOTEL AND HEALTH CLUBS
YOUR IN ROOM SAFE OR THE PHONE
IN YOUR ROOM. THESE ADDITIONAL
FEES COMMONLY CALLED RESORT FEES
ARE OFTEN NOT DISCLOSED UP FRONT
AND RATHER CHARGE AT CHECK IN OR
WHEN YOU PAY FOR YOUR YOUR- ST
THE END. IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN THE
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION DID AN
ANALYSIS OF RESORT FEES AND
CONCLUDED THAT SEPARATING RESORT
FEES FROM THE ROOM RATE WITHOUT
FIRST DISCLOSING THE TOTAL PRICE
IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT BENEFITS
THAT WOULD OFFSET THE HARMS TO
CONSUMERS. WHICH INCLUDE
ADDITIONAL TIME SEARCHING FOR
THE HOTELS MANDATORY FEES WERE
MAKING AN UNINFORMED CHOICE
RESULTING IN A COSTLY HOTEL
STAY. CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
DESERVE COMPLETE PRICING
INFORMATION TO HELP MAKE
INFORMED PURCHASES. AND THAT'S
WHY WE SUPPORT THIS BILL TO
REQUIRE TRANSPARENCY OF ALL
MANDATORY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH
HOTEL AND LODGING SERVICES. AND
FOR ALL THOSE REASONS WE-
RESPECTFULLY URGE ARRIVAL THANK
YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS- WE'RE
TECHNICALLY KIND OF A TWEENER ON
THIS- ROBERT HER L. EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION CALIFORNIA. WE'RE
CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE IN CONCEPT
WAS CENTER WHICH WAS TRYING TO
DO AGREE COMPLETELY- THERE. ARE
OTHER BILLS IN THIS AREA-
BROADLY IN TERMS OF JUNK FEES
AND THINGS LIKE THAT I WOULD
JUST POINT OUT. THAT WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR ADDING
TAXES BACK IN- WE FIND THE
ARGUMENT AGAINST HAVING TAXES BE
INCLUDED. NOT COMPELLING YOU'LL
PROBABLY HEAR THAT ARGUMENT IN A
MOMENT. BUT I WOULD JUST POINT
OUT THAT YET THERE'S A
DEFINITION OF MANDATORY FEES
HERE AND I THINK WE WANT TO BE
VERY CAREFUL I WOULD LIKE TO
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR GOING
FORWARD ON THIS. A LOT OF
PROPERTIES ARE NOW SAYING. THE
RESORT FEE FOR EXAMPLE IS NOT A
MANDATORY FEE WHAT THAT MEANS AS
A PRACTICAL IMPACT FOR THE
CONSUMER. IS THAT THEY CAN GO IN
THE ROOM AND THAT THEY PRETTY
MUCH HAVE TO STAY THERE THEY
CAN'T USE THE POOL THEY CAN'T
USE ANYTHING. MAYBE THEY GET
HALF A TOWEL IF THEY'RE LUCKY SO
THERE'S THIS IS SEMANTIC GAME
GOING ON SO WE WOULD LOVE TO
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR- AND OTHER
AUTHORS IN THIS AREA AS THIS
MOVES FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT OTHERS. OTHERS
WINNERS OR SUPPORT. C. KNOWN
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.
ALLISTER THE OPPOSITION. THOSE
IN OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS
MICROPHONE. GOOD EVENING
EVERYONE CHAIR MEMBERS. AUTHOR
ROBERT WHICH IS THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE ARE I
REGRETFULLY AT THIS POINT
OPPOSED. TO SB SIX EIGHT THREE
THE CONCERNS ARE NOT ABOUT I
WILL BE CLEAR- DOES YOUR RESORT
FEES DESTINATION FEES YOU KNOW
WE'RE NOT HERE IN DEFENSE OF
THOSE. THAT WE SPOKE OF THE
AUTHOR STAFF IN THE AUTHOR
REPEALING THIS APPRECIATE THE
OUT REACH. OUR FOCUS REALLY
ISN'T IS ON MINIMIZING WHAT WE'D
CALL IT COLLATERAL DAMAGE ISSUES
IN THE DRAFTING ONE OF THE
ISSUES IS FOCUSING ON THE RIGHT
PARTY BEING LIABLE IF THERE'S A
PRICE MISTAKE BETWEEN A THIRD
PARTY WEBSITE OR HOTEL. ANOTHER
ISSUE AS TO THE TAXES POINT I
WILL BE VERY CLEAR- WE ARE NOT
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT TAXES
ARE NOT INCLUDED MANDATORY FEES
THAT'S THE MOMENT THAT SAW THAT
TALKED ABOUT THAT'S NOT. WHAT
THE CHAMBERS LEAST TRYING TO DO.
OUR FOCUS IS THAT WE HAVE A
CONCERN THAT IF YOU COMBINE
TAXES INTO THE INITIAL
ADVERTISED PRICE. YOU MAKE
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES LOOK LESS
COMPETITIVE THAN THE NEIGHBORING
BUSINESS IN FOR EXAMPLE IF
YOU'RE GOING SOMEWHERE AROUND
LAKE TAHOE. WHERE THEIR TAXES
WILL NOT BE IN IT LIST INITIAL
PRICE SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK
THROUGH THOSE ISSUES WITH THE
AUTHOR. BUT AND HOPE TO HAVE THE
RESULTS SOON AT THIS POINT ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPA POST. RD THANK
YOU. YEAH JULIE MILANOWSKI FALL
BEHALF CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND
LODGING ASSOCIATION WE HAVE AN
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION
AGAIN WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING
THE CHAMBER HAS SHARED WITH YOU.
WANTED TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR
WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT HE'S
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS JUST A
MATTER OF REFINING THE LANGUAGE-
ONE THING IN PARTICULAR WE WOULD
LIKE TO RESOLVE THIS MAY BE A
LITTLE MORE TIME FOR COMPLIANCE
SO MAYBE ANOTHER TWELVE MONTHS
WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US.
RESOLVING THE LIABILITY ISSUE
WHEN THIRD PARTY BOOKINGS GET IT
YOU KNOW GET IT WRONG- AND OF
COURSE YOU KNOW THE T. O. T. AND
T. ID ISSUE. IT REALLY IS A
PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE LARGER
BUSINESSES THAT ARE SEEKING TO.
COMPARE SHE WE DO THIS IN
CALIFORNIA SHE WE DO IT IN
ARIZONA. THAT'S WHERE THIS ISSUE
BECOMES A BIG ISSUE SO MAYBE
IT'S ONLY THREE DOLLARS. YOU
KNOW TO YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL BUT
WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY ADDING IT
ALL UP FOR A LARGER GROUP. YOU
KNOW IT THEN BECOMES A
COMPETITIVE ISSUE WITH OTHER
STATES WOULD LIKE TO RESOLVE
THAT THANK YOU THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. OTHERS IN OPPOSITION SINGH
KNOWN APPROACH TO MIKE FROM THE
STERN OF THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD Q. THOSE
UP WHO WERE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. TO SB SIX EIGHT
THREE. WOULD ALL BE GRATEFUL.
THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. NO NO
SIX EIGHT THREE. SIX EIGHT THREE
THERE'S TWO. ONE AND THEN ZERO
FOR SUPPORTER UP JUST TO BE
CLEAR WE'RE ON SB SIX EIGHT
THREE I SEE THE AUTHOR SHAKING
HIS HEAD. YES RIGHT. SHOULD WE
HAVE KNOWN IN QUEUE AT THAT THIS
TIME. ALL RIGHT LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS CONCERNING FILE ITEM
NUMBER. NINE SIX EIGHT THREE.
CENTER MEMOS THE BILL- ALL RIGHT
SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS CENTER GLAZER CARE
CLOSE JUST THAT THANK- THAT ALL
THE- FOLKS INVOLVED IN THIS
WE'VE HAD MANY MANY
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS BILL IN
THE NEXT- I'M ALL OPEN ON. A
NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES TIME FOR
COMPLIANCE IS I'M SENSITIVE TO
THAT. FEW DEFINITION LIABILITY
ALL THESE ISSUES I DO CONCERN ME
AS WELL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THEM AS THE BILL MOVES FORWARD
TODAY. HI THANK YOU SENATOR
GLAZERS A CENTER MOVEMENT HAS
MOVED THE BILL BENNETT SECTOR IF
YOU CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER NINE SB SIX EIGHT
THREE THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS I'M BURKE. HI
NUMBER OF I WILL CRY WILK I
ALAN. ASHBY ASHBY I'D RUSSELL.
LAYERED LAYERED I'M ACQUIRE. MAN
MAN AINI LOW. YOU WILL AYE
STERN. WIENER WIENER I. A SEVEN
ZERO. SEVEN ZERO WILL PUT THAT
ON CALL SO GLAZER WELL WOULD YOU
LIKE TO TAKE UP SB SIX FOUR FOUR
YES SIR ALL RIGHT GO AHEAD YET
THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU TO THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK
ON THIS I WANT TO THANK MY
PARTNERS- WHO WERE HERE IN THE
ROOM CENTER ALAN'S NUMBER AGAIN
WIENER FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS
EFFORT- I HAVE A THE SAME
QUESTION I CAN ASK A MOMENT AGO
HOW MANY. OF YOU GO ON THE
INTERNET FOR TRAVEL
ARRANGEMENTS. I AM MOST OF YOU I
THINK I'VE PROBABLY DONE THAT AS
I DID. JOHN CHALLENGE MY FOLKS
IN THE TOWN HALL HUNDRED PEOPLE
ALMOST EVERYONE RAISED THEIR
HAND HOW MANY OF THE VIEW OF
I'VE GONE ONLINE TO AND FOUND
OUT THAT MAYBE MADE A MISTAKE OR
YOU LEARN SOMETHING WHEN YOU GOT
TO THE END OF THE LINE. AND
THAT'S REALLY THE HEART OF WHAT
THIS BILL IS ABOUT IS THAT- YOU
KNOW WE TRY TO PLAN OUR TRIPS
AND METICULOUSLY- BUT SOMETIMES
WE MAKE MISTAKES- AND WHAT WHEN
RESERVING WHETHER IT'S ABOUT-
NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY
COSTS OR SOMETHING ELSE- BUT IF
YOU MAKE A MISTAKE NOW WHEN
YOU'RE USING A THIRD PARTY APPS.
YOU'RE ALMOST NEVER ALLOWED ANY
ROOM TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK-
EVEN IF YOU DO. WANT TO CANCEL
AND CHANGE A MINUTE LATER- SB
SIX FORTY FOUR SIXTY CREATE A
BASELINE A REASONABLE CONSUMER
PROTECTION LODGING. REQUIRE ALL
HOTELS SHORT TERM RENTALS AND
THIRD PARTY BOOKING SERVICES TO
PROVIDE CONSUMER. WITH A FREE
CANCELLATION WITH A FULL REFUND.
ONLY IF THEY DO IT TWENTY FOUR
OUT WITHIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS
AFTER MAKING THE BOOKING OKAY
ONLY. IF THEY DO IT WITHIN
TWENTY FOUR HOURS OF MAKING THE
BOOKING. THIS THIS WOULD BE
ALLOWABLE- THIS ONE DAY WINDOW
TO CANCEL- THAT GETS ADDED
FLEXIBILITY CONSUMERS- NOW
HOTELS SHORT TERM RENTALS THIRD
PARTY. CAN STILL OFFER MORE
GENERAL GENEROUS CANCELLATION
POLICIES. AND THEY CAN EVEN
OFFER NON REFUNDABLE- PROMOTIONS
AS LONG AS AGAIN. THEY WOULD
ALLOW UNDER THIS BILL THE
ABILITY OF THE OF THE- CONSUMER
TO CANCEL IT WITHIN TWENTY FOUR
HOURS OF MAKING A DECISION THAT.
MAYBE THEY THOUGHT WAS A MISTAKE
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR I VOTED. SIRKAZHI HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES OUT HERE I
DON'T. ANY MEMBERS IN THE ROOM
HERE IN SUPPORT OF SB SIX FOUR
FOUR K. SO THAT. ALL RIGHT DO WE
HAVE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. ACTUALLY THAT ONCE
AGAIN HERE AGAIN I SAID I AM I
AM BETWEEN ON THIS WITH YOU-
ROBERT HER OUT WITH THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION CALIFORNIA THINK FOR
INDULGENCE MISTER VICE CHAIR-
SUPPORT OF AN CONCEPT OF WHAT.
THE SENATORS TRYING TO DO HERE-
COUPLE QUICK WORRIES JUST TO
POINT OUT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
WORK WITH THE CENTER AS THIS
BILL MOVES TO THE PROCESS ONE-
WE WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS A
MINIMAL FLOOR WE WORRY THAT AS A
PRACTICAL MATTER IT MIGHT WIND
UP BEING THE CEILING. INSIDE IN
SOME CASES FOR EXAMPLE OFF THE
TOP OF MY HEAD MANY MARRIOTT
PROPERTIES HAVE A MORE GENEROUS
CANCELLATION POLICY EVENTS HERE
I WORRY THAT SOME OF THEM ARE
NOW GOING TO RATCHET BACK. IF
THIS BECOMES A FLOOR BUT ONCE AT
THE FACT OF BEING ASSUME THAT'S
NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO THERE'S A
CARVE OUT AT THE END OF THE
BILL- SEVENTEEN FORTY POINT A
FOUR PAGE SIX NINE FIVE TWO NINE
IN THE CURRENT VERSION THE BILL.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET WRAP OUR
HANDS AROUND A LITTLE BIT WE
WORRIED THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND BE
TOO BROAD. OF A CARVE OUT HAPPY
HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE- US
SENATOR. AND THEN- AT ONE POINT
THIS BILL SAID THAT VIOLATING
THIS WAS A SEVENTY TWO HUNDRED.
VIOLATION ESSENTIAL NUMBER
BUSINESS PRACTICE WE ACTUALLY
THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE CASE
WE'VE MADE THE CASE. GOING BACK
A NUMBER OF AGENCIES THAT WHAT'S
BEEN GOING ON IN THIS INDUSTRY
WRIT LARGE HAS BEEN AND
CONTINUES TO BE UNFAIR BUSINESS
PRACTICE SO WITH THAT
APPRECIATE- THE SENATOR'S
EFFORTS HERE- NO OFFICIAL
POSITION WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH HIM AND HIS FOLKS.
THANK YOU GREAT THANK YOU FOR
SHARING THAT. THERE WILL MOVE.
TO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR AGAIN ROBERT MATURE FOR
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE- AND I WAS AGAIN
APPRECIATE THE OFFICE ENGAGEMENT
HERE WE ARE PRESENTLY OPPOSED ON
SB SIX FOUR FOUR BUT WE'VE BEEN
WORKING CLOSELY ON AND HOPE WE
CAN COME TOGETHER- THE CONCERNS
WE HAVE- THE TWENTY FOUR HOUR
PERIOD WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS AT
THAT LEAVES ALMOST NO TIME
POTENTIALLY BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY
CHECK IN. WHERE YOU CAN LOCK
DOWN THAT BOOKING WE SPOKE OF
THE AUTHOR WERE HOPING TO COME
TO A BALANCED TIME WINDOW THERE
SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT REFINED.
BUT HAVE SOME CERTAINTY OF WHEN
THE BOOKINGS COME IN- WE'VE ALSO
SPOKEN ON THIS AND I'M I'M
HOPEFUL WE CAN ADDRESS-
EXCEPTIONAL SCENARIO SUCH AS
PACKAGE DEALS WHERE PERHAPS THE
HOTEL ROOM IS THE ONLY
PROFITABLE PART. THIS INCLUDES A
COUPLE OTHER ITEMS WE SPOKE ON
THAT HOPE TO RESOLVE IT GOING
FORWARD- AND LAST. THE INTEREST
WHICH THE SENATOR JUST MENTIONED
ON PRESERVING THE ABILITY TO
OFFER AT A DISCOUNT NON
REFUNDABLE ROOMS WHERE THEY ARE
CHEAPER AND WE'RE YOU KNOW WE'RE
GONNA WORK ON THAT PIECE SO.
THOSE ARE PRESENT CONCERNS HOPE
TO SOLVE THEM BUT WE ARE AT THIS
POINT A POST THANK YOU FOR.
THANK YOU. YEAH AGAIN JULIE
MILLER ASK ABOUT BEHALF
CALIFORNIA HOTEL LODGING
ASSOCIATION WE HAVE AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. WE ECHO
EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST HEARD
FROM THE CHAMBER I THINK. YOU
KNOW WE JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON
THIS TWENTY FOUR HOURS NO
REGRETS WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH
THE TWENTY FOUR HOURS NO
REGRETS. IT REALLY IS THE TWENTY
FOUR HOURS PRIOR IS WHAT WE
REALLY WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON.
AGAIN WITH THE- YOU BENEFIT FROM
YOU KNOW CANCELLATION YOU KNOW
WHAT LESS GENEROUS CANCELLATION
POLICIES YOU GET A BENEFIT FROM
THAT BY CHEAPER RATES. SO WE
WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THAT
WE'RE LOOKING MORE LIKE SEVEN
DAYS PRIOR TO. THAT WE LIKE TO
SEE THAT HAPPY TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR THANK
YOU. THIRTY THANK YOU OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION SIMILAR PROBES THE
MICROPHONE. MODERATE PLEASE Q.
OF THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION
TO S. B. FOUR FOUR SIX FOUR
FOUR. THANK YOU REPORTER
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY PRESS ONE
AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE
AND THEN ZERO. WE'LL GO TO LINE
EIGHTY FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
NINE EIGHTY FIVE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. YOU HAVE A SON MUTE. MMHM
WITH THAT WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT A SERMON
MUTE MOVES THE BILL. QUESTIONS
COMMENTS SEEING SEVEN YELLOW AND
THEN SENATOR WILK- THE CONCERNS
THAT I HAVE ARE PRETTY MUCH WHAT
THE CHAMBER ARTICULATED SO I'M
WONDERING WHAT YOUR- OUTLOOK ON
THAT IS. THROUGH THE CHAIR FIVE.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT LATE
BOOKINGS AS WELL AS SOMEONE IS
TRYING TO GAME THE SYSTEM SO I'M
NOT TRYING TO- DISADVANTAGE A
LODGING ESTABLISHMENT BY SOMEONE
TRYING TO GAME THE SYSTEM. AND
THAT REALLY IS WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THE TWENTY FOUR HOURS
RIGHT BEFORE SOMEONE IS. MOVING
IN- SO I WITH THAT WE'RE HAVING
THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND LOOK.
THE ONLY IT I THINK IT'S A VERY
NARROW BAND OF CIRCUMSTANCES
NUMBER PEOPLE PUT THESE THINGS
ON THE- ON THESE THIRD PARTY FOR
WEEKS OR MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME
TRYING TO GET RENTALS. AND IF IT
HASN'T BEEN RENTED TWENTY FOUR
HOURS BEFORE THE OCCUPANCY IS
THAT THERE'S ANY ISSUE THERE SO
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S THE MAJOR
PART OF RESERVATIONS THAT TO
HAPPEN. BUT IF THEY DO HAPPEN IN
THAT FASHION I'M INTERESTED IN
TRYING NOT TO HAVE A PENALTY ON
THE LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS- AND
SO ON THE NEW CAN CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THE- THE ABOUT THE
CURRENT OPPONENTS AT LEAST TO
TRY TO FIGURE. THAT ONE OUT AND
FINALLY ON THE PACKAGE DEALS I'M
TRYING NOT TO GET INVOLVED IN
THIS SOPHISTICATED CONTRACTS
BETWEEN. PACKAGE DEALS OF
ENTITIES AND HOTELS OR OTHER
OTHER LODGING SO THAT'S WHY WE
ACTUALLY EXEMPT THAT IN THE BILL
WAS REFERENCED BY THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION OF CONCERNED BY HIM.
BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE UP
PASSED FOR OF SOPHISTICATED
OPERATORS WHO TRYING TO CREATE
THIS PACKAGE DEALS HOW ABOUT THE
ISSUE OF. USE ME- OFFERING A
LOWER. RATE THAT IT'S NON CANCEL
NONREFUNDABLE AS I SAID IN MY
OPENING- THOSE WOULD STILL BE
ALLOWED UNDER THIS BILL OKAY
OKAY SO YOU COULD SAY THAT SAY
THE TYPICAL AND I'VE ASKED THE
BOOKING ESTABLISHMENTS HOW OFTEN
IN ADVANCE TO PEOPLE RESERVE IT
IT'S USUALLY WEEKS OR MONTHS BUT
THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN ME THE DATA.
BUT IT MEANS THAT- TWO MONTHS
BEFORE YOU GO TO THE BAHAMAS OR
YOU COME TO CALIFORNIA WHATEVER
IT IS- YOU GET A RATE. AND IT
SAYS BUT IF YOU DO IT NON
REFUNDABLE WE'RE GONNA DISCOUNT
OF TWENTY FIVE PERCENT. YOU CAN
STILL OFFER THAT RATE THE ONLY
THING THIS BILL WOULD DO THEY
COULD CANCEL IT WITHIN TWENTY
FOUR HOURS OF MAKING IT TWO
MONTHS IN ADVANCE TO SAY- WHAT
WE'RE JUST GONNA. YEAH I MADE A
MISTAKE BUT THEY COULD STILL
OFFER THAT DISCOUNTED RATE THIS
WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT AT
ALL JUST ALLOW THAT TWENTY FOUR
HOUR GRACE PERIOD IF THEY MADE A
MISTAKE. THANK YOU FOR THAT BUT
GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THIS
COMMITTEE MEETING I AM GOING TO
THE BAHAMAS ANYTIME SOON. YOUR
OUR HATE. CENTER WILK. I WAS IN
NO COMING IN BUT BASED UPON. I
THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE
ON THE BILL AND I DO TRUST YOU
SO I'M GOING TO GO UP ON THE
BILL- BECAUSE- I'VE HAD. THIS
THIS IS AN ISSUE. AND I THOUGHT
MAYBE WAS A RESOLVABLE BUT I'M
THINKING. THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
GET THERE SO. RESERVE THE RIGHT
TO CHANGE MY MIND AT A LATER
DATE BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW I'M
GOING TO BE AND I. THAT'S RIGHT
THANK YOU THANK YOU CENTER WORKS
AND WIENER. THANK YOU SENATOR
AND YOU KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT
THIS AND I AM A SUPPORTER OF
THIS. BILL I I'VE YOU KNOW I'VE-
PERSONALLY SEEN I THINK WE ALL
HAVE WERE YOU. PEOPLE GO ONLINE
TO GOOGLE FOR THE HOTEL THEY
WANT TO STAY- AND IT AND- THE
THIRD PARTY SCAM WEBSITE AND
WHEN I SAY SKIP. IT'S A IT'S A
RESERVATION AT THE HOTEL BUT
IT'S NOT THE HOTEL. THEY'RE
TRYING TO TRICK CONSUMERS INTO
THINKING. IT'S A HOTEL'S WEBSITE
IT'S NOT AND SO. MOST HOTELS. BY
AND LARGE YOU KNOW YOU CAN
CANCEL UNTIL. TWENTY FOUR HOURS
BEFORE THE- BEFORE THE
RESERVATION OR MAYBE A WEEK OR
TWO- BUT THESE WEBSITES WILL
MAKE IT COMPLETELY IMMEDIATELY
NONREFUNDABLE AND PEOPLE DON'T
EVEN REALIZE. THAT IF THEY'RE
NOT PAYING CLOSE ENOUGH
ATTENTION AND THEN THEY GET.
THEIR BEING ACTIVELY TRACKED AND
THERE'S A YOU KNOW A PARTICULAR
HOTEL THAT I'VE SOMEONE STOOD UP
WITH FRIENDS. WHEN TRAVELING
WHERE THERE IS A FAKE WEBSITE
YOU GREW UP THE FIRST ONE THAT
COMES UP IS. THE FAKE WEBSITE-
BECAUSE THEY MANIPULATE THE
GOOGLE SEARCH TO DO THAT. AND
THIS BILL WILL GET AT THAT KIND
OF SITUATION- IT ALSO- YOU KNOW
ALL OF THIS NOTE THAT. I DON'T
KNOW WHEN THIS STARTED BUT-
LIVING IN SAN FRANCISCO I FLY
UNITED. A LOT UNITED BUT SOME
POINT IN THE RECENT. PAST
STARTED ALLOW YOU TWENTY FOUR
HOURS WHEN YOU PURCHASE USED TO
WAS IMMEDIATELY NON REFUNDABLE
OR SUBJECT TO WHATEVER
PENALTIES. NOW YOU HAVE TWENTY
FOUR HOURS DO IT TO. THE BODY
THINK BETTER OF IT ARE YOU MADE
A MISTAKE- HE GOT HOME IN YOUR
SPOUSE TELLS YOU WILL WHY DID
YOU BOOK THAT PLATE SHOULD BE.
YOU KNOW EARLIER IN THE DAY-
THIS IS NOT A ON REASONABLE ON-
I DO WANT TO. NOTE WITH IN TERMS
OF THE LAST MINUTE- RESERVE. I
DID- FORWARD TO YOU SOME
FEEDBACK I RECEIVED FROM SOME
SHORT TERM RENTAL HOSTS AND MY
DISTRICT TO RENT OUT. SPARE
BEDROOMS IN THEIR HOMES AND
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT- THAT KIND
OF SITUATION I APPRECIATE YOU.
TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND
CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT. THANK
YOU CENTER WIENER YOU'VE
OBVIOUSLY BEEN TALKING TO MY
SPOUSE SO. ALL RIGHT. OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS SEEING
NONE OF IS OUR MOTION. CENTERMAN
MOVES THE BILL GET A CLOSE THANK
YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS FOR THE
CONVERSATION I TO OF MADE THAT
MISTAKE THAT CENTER WIENER WAS
SPEAKING TO THINKING I WAS.
MAKING A RESERVATION AT THE
ESTABLISHMENT AND FOR THE MOST
PART A LOT OF THE BIGGER
ESTABLISHMENTS THEY ALL DO THIS
ANYWAY- THE THIRD PARTY APPS IS
REALLY WHERE THERE'S A
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THAT THIS
BILL TRIES TO ADDRESS WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR. YOUR I.
THAT HONEY THANK YOU. MA'AM
SIXTY IF YOU CALL THE ROLL. THIS
IS FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE SB SIX
EIGHTY THREE. OH I'M SORRY. AT
SIX FORTY FOUR HIGHLAND. OKAY
OKAY. FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB
SIX FOUR FOUR. OF THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS I'M
BURKE HI. A BIRD I WILL CRY.
WILK AYE ALLEN. ASHLEY ASHLEY
I'D RUSSELL. WHERE'D LAYERED I'M
ACQUIRE. INQUIRE I MEN. MEN I
ANY LOW. YOU WILL AYE STERN.
WIENER WIENER I. EIGHT TWO ZERO
EIGHT ZERO. ALL RIGHT US SENATE
GONZALEZ THANK YOU VERY MUCH
YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE
SOMETIME I APPRECIATE YOUR
PATIENCE. NEXT THE EPICENTER
GONZALEZ. IN CENTER CITY SEYARTO
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS I'M HERE TO PRESENT S.
B. FOR THIRTY FIVE WHICH WILL
TAKE THE NECESSARY FIRST STEP TO
UNCOVER TRENDS AND POTENTIAL
DISPARITIES. THAT ARE OFTEN
HIDDEN IN AGGREGATED HEALTH DATA
FOR LATINOS AND INDIGENOUS
MISSILE AMERICANS THAT THE NOSE
MAKE UP 40% OF CALIFORNIA'S
POPULATION HOWEVER WITHIN THE
LATINO COMMUNITY THERE ARE
SEVERAL ETHNIC SUBGROUPS OF
DIVERSE HEALTH OUTCOMES. THESE
DISTINCTIONS HIDE IN THE
MONOLITHIC TERM OF LATINO WHICH
LEADS TO LESS DETAILED AND
NUANCED INFORMATION AND DURING
THE HEIGHT OF KOBE NINETEEN- HOW
TO ACCESS VACCINES IN CALIFORNIA
AND UNFORTUNATELY SO SEPERTI
HIRE DATE. READ A DEATH RATE
EXCUSE ME AS A RESULT AS BEFORE
THIRTY FIVE WILL ADDRESS THE
SHORTCOMINGS BY REQUIRING THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES PUBLIC HEALTH SOCIAL
SERVICES. AGING AND DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH CARE ACCESS
INFORMATION TO COLLECT AND
RELEASE ANONYMOUS DISAGGREGATED
DATA FOR SPECIFIED LATINO
SUBGROUPS INCLUDING MEXICAN
SALVADORAN GUATEMALAN AMONG
OTHERS- AND THE BILL ALSO
REQUIRES DATA COLLECTION FOR
SPECIFIED MISS AMERICAN
INDIGENOUS NATIONS. I TESTIFYING
IN SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE TODAY
I HAVE GENESIS BACK WITH THE
MONEY THAT IS IN THE CAN US AND
LEAD US SCHOOLS YELLOW- I WHICH
IS HERE WHICH SHE IS HERE TO. TO
PRESENT TODAY- AND HAS NO
OPPOSITION SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
MY BOAT THANK YOU. CLOSURES
THANKS FOR WAITING- GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS JANICE IS
LIKE A MY A YOU COULD TAKE AND
THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AT MANY
OTHERS IN THE MISSING YOU AT AS
CLOSE YELLOW. AND INDIGENOUS
NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES
INTERPRETATION SERVICES TO
INDIGENOUS MIGRANT COMMUNITIES
IN CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE US-
SEALS A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB
FOUR THIRTY FIVE AUTHORED BY
SENATOR LANA. GONZALEZ WHICH
WEEK WHICH WILL COLLECTED TO
SEGREGATE DEMOGRAPHIC IN
LANGUAGE DATA FROM THE TEANECK
SUBGROUPS IN INDIGENOUS
MESOAMERICAN PEOPLES THAT FALL
UNDER THE ASSUMPTION OF LATINOS
ARE HISPANIC. NOT EVERYBODY THAT
COMES FROM SOUTH OF THE IMPOSE
BORDER SPEAKS SPANISH INDIGENOUS
MIGRANT COMMUNITIES HAVE
SPECIFIC NEEDS SUCH AS
INDIGENOUS LANGUAGE ACCESS TO
OBTAIN QUALITY AND RELIABLE
INFORMATION. AND SERVICES FROM
STATE AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS BY
OBTAINING INFORMATION FOLLOWING
ETHICAL STANDARDS BASED ON
RESPECT FOR HUMAN DIGNITY
CONSENT PRIVACY CONFERENCE.
CONFIDENTIALITY AND ACCURACY S.
B. FOR THIRTY FIVE SIX ONE COVER
IN REDUCING UNDERLYING HEALTH
DISPARITIES IN CALIFORNIA FOR
LIKE THE NEXT AND INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES. HAVING SPECIFIC IN
HIGH QUALITY DEMOGRAPHIC DATA IS
VITAL TO MEET THE HEALTH NEEDS
OF DIVERSE POPULATIONS. AND IS A
STEP TOWARDS CREATING A MORE
WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR
INDIGENOUS MIGRANT COMMUNITIES
IN CALIFORNIA WHO CONTRIBUTE. TO
THE ECONOMY OF OUR STATE AND
SERVICE JOBS. YET EXPERIENCE LOS
JOKING ON MARGINAL. IS AN ART.
RISK IN PUBLIC HEALTH
EMERGENCIES DUE TO THE LANGUAGE
BARRIERS AND THE LACK OF KEY
PREVENTIVE MEASURES THE
INDIGENOUS MIGRANT COMMUNITIES.
REDUCE DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTED BY THE COVER NINETEEN
PANDEMIC AS A RESPONSIBLE BEGAN
THE UNDOCUMENTED UNITS FUND
WHICH ALLOWED US TO PROVIDE TWO
POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN
SOLITARY FINDS. AND WITH THE
DATA THAT WE COLLECTED SCALE
DEVELOPED THE MAP WE ARE HERE
THAT CONFIRMS. AT LEAST
SEVENTEEN INDIGENOUS LANGUAGE
FAMILIES LIVING IN LOS ANGELES
COUNTY ALONE. THIS INFORMATION
ALLOWS US TO DELIVER THE BEST
SERVICE TO INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES. LASTLY IT CANNOT BE
UNDERSTATED THAT DATA PRICES
AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES ASSUMING
THAT EVERYONE THAT COMES FROM
SOUTH OF THE BORDER SPEAK
SPANISH. OR CATALOGING
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES AS LATINO
HISPANIC. IS TO TEACH THE
STATISTIC REGEHR AND IF WE DON'T
EXIST THE NUMBERS WE DON'T EXIST
AT ALL. I'M S. B. FOR THIRTY
FIVE HIGHLIGHTS AND BRINGS
AWARENESS TO OUR UNIQUE AND
DIVERSE DIFFERENCES AND ENSURES
HEALTH EQUITY FOR INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES. ACROSS CALIFORNIA I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
. FOR S. B- FOR THIRTY FIVE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTS NEXT
WITNESS. HELLO CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS MARVELOUS
POLICY DIRECTOR WITH THE LATINO
COALITION FOR HEALTHY CALIFORNIA
HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON ANDREA RIVERA
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA PAN ETHNIC
HEALTH NETWORK AND THE HAVING
OUR SAY COALITION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING OF REST OF LOTUS I'LL BE
HALF AS THEM AT HEALTH SERVICES
IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON JENNIFER ROWE
BLESS WITH HEALTH ACCESS
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU FOR THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT SEEING NO ONE ELSE
BROACH THE MICROPHONE IN
SUPPORT- OPPOSITION OPPOSITION
TO S. B. FOR THIRTY FIVE SING
KNOWN APPROACH MIKE PHONE.
MODERATE PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE
ON THE LINE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO S. B. FOR
THIRTY FIVE. THANK YOU PRINT THE
PORTER OPPOSITION YOU MAY PRESS
ONE AND THEN ZERO. WE'LL GO TO
LINE ONE SEVENTY EIGHT YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. MERRY CHRYSANTHOS THIS
OPEN PARTNERSHIP AND FOR. THANK
YOU NEXT TO GO TO LINE ONE FIFTY
FOR YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
EVENING LED THE WAY WITH WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT TO GO TO LINE ONE NINETY
THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. BURKE I
WITH THE ASIAN PACIFIC PARTNER
FOR INTERNET ADDICTS DEALERSHIP
AND WE'RE HERE FOR SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL FORTY FIVE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MEXICO
LINE OF NINETY FIVE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GOOD EVENING THAN EXPECTED
ON WITH ME ECHOING BECAUSE NOT
MANY ORGANIZING PROJECTS AND CO
SPONSOR OF THE BILL IN SUPPORT
OF SB FORTY FIVE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT TO GO
TO LINE ONE EIGHTY NINE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HELLO MY NAME IS
NOT ON THE FORTIETH THIS YEAR
AND I AM WITH MUNY ENVIRONMENTAL
COUNCIL AND THE CENTRAL COAST
CRIME IT JUST NOT WORKING THANK
THE POOREST SB. FOUR THIRTY FIVE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MEXICO TO LINE UP ONE NINETY
SEVEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI
BUDGET OFFICE LAYLA AND I'M WITH
ACT THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE AND
ORGAN SB FOUR THREE FIVE THANK
YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU MEXICO
SO LINE OF ONE NINETY SIX YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HELLO THEN
INSTANCES WITH CALIFORNIA HAVING
THE ON BEHALF OF THE COALITION
FOR HUMANE IMMIGRANT RIGHT AND
THE UCLA LET'S NOT PUBLIC
IMPOLITIC INSTITUTE. IN SUPPORT
OF SB FORTY FIVE THANK YOU THANK
YOU. THANK YOU NEXT OF A LINE OF
ONE NINETY FIVE. HELLO MY NAME
IS MIKE AND I'M WITH THE BAND
NATIONAL CENTER FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES. AND IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. FOR THIRTY FIVE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT TO THE
LINE OF EIGHTY FOR YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. I'LL INVEST FOR THE FOR
THE MANAGER WITH LESS NICHOLAS
BACK CALIFORNIA IF OF SB FORTY
FIVE THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
OF A LINE OF ONE EIGHTY SIX YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HELLO MY NAME.
BEING IN AND AROUND WHERE ON THE
UNIVERSITY OF DAVIS- AND OUR
SUPPORT SB FOUR THIRTY FIVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND ONE
MOMENT WE HAVE ONE MORNING TO
GET THEIR LINE NUMBER.
WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE NINETY FOR
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. LEARN WHEN
THE FEDERAL. OKAY GO AHEAD.
NUMBER A LITTLE BIT BETTER YEAH
WELL YOU KNOW LARA IT'S A BIT
WHAT THE THINGS THAT YOU THINK
WILL. THANK YOU. LUCTUS THE
NUMBER. OF IT. WILL GO TO LINE
ONE EIGHTY THREE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI MY NAME IS ON EIGHTEEN
I'M WITH THEM I FEEL HE IN
SUPPORT OF SB FORTY FIVE THANK
YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU AMATEUR
WE HAVE NO FURTHER SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION IN Q. ALL RIGHT LET'S
BRING BACK COMMITTEE MILITIA
CHAIR MANY MEMBERS YET YES
CENTER EARLIER THIS IS A REALLY
GOOD BILL I CAN SEE WHY THERE'S
NO OPPOSITION AND I MOVED THE
BILL ALL RIGHT THANK YOU OTHERS
OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS SEE NO
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SENATORS ALICE WOULD LIKE CLOSE
I THANK MY- SPONSORS FOR BEING
HERE AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE THAT MISTER CHAIR THANK YOU
THE OBJECTIVE YOU'D CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
TEN SB FOUR THIRTY FIVE THE
MOTION IS TO PASS IN THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
NUMBER KILEY NUMBER I WILL CALL
RIGHT WILK I ALAN ASHBY. ASHBY
I'D ALSO LAYERED. I'M MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE MIN AYE MIN AYE ANY
LOW. STERN WIENER. WIENER I.
SEVEN ZERO WITH MEMBERS SEVEN
ZERO I WILL PUT THAT ON CALL- IF
WE'RE GOING IN PHARMACY CENTER
MCGUIRE BUT YOUR REWARD FOR
BEING ON THE COMMITTEE IS YOU
GET TO GO AT THE END. SO CENTER
SEYARTO. WHAT THE. CENTERSET ARE
THE PLEASURES THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY
THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE BILL
TONIGHT. AND I REALIZE I'M THE
ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN
SENATOR MCGUIRE AND YOUR DINNER
SO- WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS-
FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF TO WORK WITH MY
STAFF ON THIS BILL IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT BILL WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT. TO HELP-
SOME VERY VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE-
TO OUR NATION AND THOSE ARE THE
PEOPLE THAT SERVED OUR NATION IN
THE MILITARY- SB SEVENTY THREE
ADS CALIFORNIA TO THE MAJORITY
OF OTHER STATES THAT HAVE
CLARIFIED THAT BUSINESSES. ARE
ALLOWED TO FOLLOW THE STATE AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS EXAMPLE IN
CREATING HIRING POLICIES THEY
GIVE PREFERENCE TO VETERANS I
HAIL FROM A DISTRICT THAT HAS A
LOT OF VETERANS BECAUSE OF THE
PROXIMITY TO THE SAN DIEGO BASES
MIRAMAR- AND- IN ALSO DOWN AND
NOT A CORONADO- AS WELL AS CAMP
PENDLETON. MANY OF THOSE
FAMILIES SETTLE IN OUR OUR
REGION AND- AS THEY COME BACK
FROM THEIR TOURS- I GET TO SEE
FIRSTHAND AS THEY HAVE VETERAN
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS NOT A
VETERAN YET- BUT- I SEE
FIRSTHAND THEIR STRUGGLES WHEN
THEY GET BACK. TO TRYING TO
ASSIMILATE BACK INTO CIVILIAN
LIFE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
I'VE SEEN FIRST HAND ALSO IS THE
OUTRAGE BY OTHER VETERANS AS
THEY SET UP BUSINESSES. AND THE
BUSINESSES ARE ALMOST TAILORED
TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO
WORK- IN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT
NECESSARILY- WITH A LOT OF
PEOPLE- THEIR SERVICE INDUSTRY
TYPE JOBS- I WON VETERAN NOW
THAT I KNOW SET UP A BUSINESS.
DOING SOLAR PANEL CLEANING. AND
HE WANTS TO HIRE STRICTLY
VETERANS TO BE ABLE TO HELP
THEM. AS WELL AS HELP HIMSELF
AND- PROVIDE FOR HIMSELF. AND
SO- AND THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT
THIS BILL THAT'S THE INSPIRATION
FOR THIS BILL THE INSPIRATION IS
ALSO. THE CHAIR ON BERG- IN HIS
PAST EFFORTS TO DOING THAT NOW-
PAID SUPER APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST TO TRY
TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE ALSO.
TODAY I HAVE WITH ME OF. A
VETERAN OF THE ARMY- JESSICA
LOPEZ AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO.
TESTIFY BEHALF THE BILL'S MY
EXPERT WITNESS. SORRY THANK YOU.
SLOKAS GOOD EVENING ARE
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS JESSICA
LOPEZ AND I CURRENTLY LIVE IN
CINEMA COUNTY AND I'M HERE TO
PROVIDE MY SUPPORT FOR S. B.
SEVENTY THREE. THIS BILL WILL
GRANT PRIVATE BUSINESSES
PREFERENCES TO VETERANS APPLYING
FOR WORK WITHOUT VIOLATING ANTI
DISCRIMINATION LAWS. I'M THE
ELDEST AND ONLY DAUGHTER OF
PARENTS WHO WERE BORN AND RAISED
IN MEXICO. MY MOTHER AND FATHER
WERE RAISING PARTY WENDY MARY
THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE THEIR
MOTHERLAND AND GO AFTER THE
AMERICAN DREAM. THEY SETTLED
DOWN IN SANTA ROSA CALIFORNIA
WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED.
GROWING UP I WILL LISTEN TO MY
PARENTS HARDSHIP WHEN THEY WERE
LIVING IN MEXICO STORIES OF
HAVING NO FOOD FOR DAYS LOSS OF
PARENTS. NOT BEING ABLE TO
FINISH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND
MANY OTHER HARDSHIPS. HEARING
THEIR STORIES HAS MADE ME
THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES
THIS NATION HAS PROVIDED MY
PARENTS AND MYSELF. ONE WAY TO
GET MY THINGS TO THIS NATION WAS
TO ENLIST IN THE MILITARY. I
ENLISTED IN THE UNITED STATES
ARMY IN AUGUST TWO THOUSAND
TWELVE AND LEFT IN TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN. I AM AND WILL ALWAYS BE
INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR THE
OPPORTUNITIES ARMY GAVE ME. ONCE
I LEFT THE ARMY ENTERING THE
WORKFORCE CAME WITH ITS
OBSTACLES I WOULD LIKE. I WOULD
APPLY TO SEVERAL PLACES WITH NO
SUCCESS HEARING EVERYTHING FROM.
YOUR OVER QUALIFIED. HI YOU
KILLED SOMEONE. ARE YOU ONE OF
THE MESSED UP ONES AND ARE YOU
LIKE A HARDCORE RADICAL.
FORTUNATELY MY LAST INTERVIEW
AND WITH MY CURRENT MANAGER
INTERVIEWING ME WHO HE HIMSELF
IS A VETERAN. ALTHOUGH I WAS
LIMITED WITH MY WORK EXPERIENCE
HE KNEW THAT WITH MY MILITARY
EXPERIENCE I WOULD EXCEL AND
THAT I WOULD HAVE MORE TO OFFER.
THAN MY COUNTERPART HE GAVE ME
AN OPPORTUNITY AND SUMMER
STRINGS WHEN OTHERS BRUSH THEM
ASIDE OR SIMPLY DID NOT
UNDERSTAND MY LIFE EXPERIENCE
AND BACKGROUND. SB SEVENTY THREE
IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND TO ALL
OTHER VETERANS WHO CALL
CALIFORNIA HOME. DISPELLING CORD
ENCOURAGES MY BROTHERS AND
SISTERS IN ARMS TO SEEK
EMPLOYMENT ESPECIALLY. FOR THOSE
WHO ARE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS.
PLEASE VOTE YES ON SB SEVENTY
THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS
LOPEZ OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
. WITNESSES FOR SB SEVENTY THREE
SAYING NO ONE APPROACH IT MIGHT
FOR WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION WAS TURN TO THE PHONE
LINES. MOTOR IF YOU TWO OF THOSE
ON THE PHONE. IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION SB SEVENTY THREE. OF
COURSE ONCE AGAIN PLACED HIM IN.
IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION THE BEST ONE. ZERO
THE LITTLE ONE POINT EIGHTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING
ACTUALLY HOPPED IN ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY
NOT THERE IN THE QUEUE AT THE
TIME ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS YES SENATOR WINNERS
UNDER LAYER. THANK THANK YOU
VERY MUCH I MISTER CHAIR SO WHEN
THIS- BILL CAME TO US A FEW
YEARS AGO FROM THE CHAIR- I DID
I SUPPORTED IT- IT IT WAS WITH
SOME QUALMS BECAUSE THERE ARE.
SOME ISSUES FOR EXAMPLE LGBTQ
PEOPLE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SERVE
IN THE MILITARY FOR MANY MANY
MANY YEARS AND SO THAT BATTLE.
GENERATION AND WOOD. EXCEPT FOR
THOSE WHO HAD HIDDEN- WHAT WOULD
BE EXCLUDED AND ISSUES AROUND
YOU KNOW WOMEN AT CETERA BUT ON
BALANCE I DECIDED TO SUPPORT IT
BECAUSE YOU KNOW I THINK OUR-
VETERANS STRUGGLE IN SO MANY
WAYS AND DESERVE. YOU KNOW THE
LEAST. THAT ABILITY- IT'S AN
IMPORTER WANTS TO REALLY- HIRE
MORE VETERANS TO HAVE A KIND OF
A PERFECT BUT AGAIN I WAS I HAD
CALLED I DID IT WITH CALLS. FROM
BALANCE I SUPPORTED- AND I WILL
SUPPORT YOUR BILL- TODAY THE ONE
THING I JUST MENTION THIS TO
YOU- THE CHAIRS BILL HAD AN
ADDITIONAL COMPONENT. THAT THAT
DATA WOULD BE COLLECTED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF FAIR EMPLOYMENT.
AND THEN THERE WAS IT WOULD BE A
SUNSET IN THE BILL SO THAT IT
COULD BE EVALUATED TO SEE HOW I
WAS WORKING. AT TO MAKE SURE WAS
NOT CAUSING ANY KIND OF
UNINTENDED- DISCRIMINATORY
IMPACTS AND I HOPE IT WON'T BUT
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT.
EVALUATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO
ASK YOU IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO
CONSIDER- AFTER THIS COMMITTEE-
TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND
PUTTING IT IN THE BILL ACTUALLY
THINK IT'S QUITE. IMPORTANT SOLD
OVER IT TODAY BUT WHEN IT COMES
TO THE FLOOR I WOULD VERY MUCH
LIKE TO SEE THAT- IN THE BILL.
THANK YOU. I MEAN YOU GO RESPOND
- EIGHT EIGHT I WILL DO MORE AND
HAVE TO DO THE BECAUSE THIS IS
IN NO WAY. TO A SIX. WHERE
PEOPLE CAN GO OUT
DISCRIMINATION- IN IN IN FACT IT
DOES JUST THE OPPOSITE WE'RE
JUST WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ENABLE
OUR VETERANS TO COME BACK GET
EMPLOYMENT. I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK
AT THOSE THINGS AS THE BILL
MOVES FORWARD. AND AND PERHAPS
INCLUDE THOSE ARE JUST SOME SOME
MEASURES- IT'S SO THAT WE CAN
ENSURE THAT THE PROGRAM- GETS
EVALUATED- BECAUSE THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE
REALLY SHORT ON HERE IN
CALIFORNIA IS EVALUATING OUR
PROGRAMS- I DON'T WANT TO CREATE
A PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T. GET
EVALUATED IN THAT WAY WE CAN
ENSURE THAT IT IS NOT BEING
ABUSED IT ALONE USE THE CORRECT
WAY THAT THAT'S CHRIS ALTMAN HOW
MY STAFF REACH OUT TO YOUR IS TO
A CORNER ON THAT I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY THAT BE
GREAT THANK YOU. SERLIO THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR FROM. YOU IN
THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD LAST
YEAR- AT SOME POINT I DID NOT
SUPPORT THE CHAIRS BILL. AND
WHILE THERE'S NO INTENT TO
DISCRIMINATE. THE FACT IS THAT
OVER 80% OF THE VETERANS ARE
MAD. AND SO THERE'S NO INTENT.
BY THE FOR CLASS THAT INCLUDES
80% OF MEN IS JUMPED UP OVER
WOMEN. FOUR FOR OTHERS IT IS DE
FACTO DISCRIMINATION AND I THINK
THE REAL PROBLEM AND IT CAME UP
IN. IN THE CHAIRS BILL IS THAT
IT IS REALLY THE VETERANS ARE
COMING HOME NOW IT IS REALLY THE
YOUNGER VETERANS THAT NEED
APPOINTMENTS NINE KNOW WHAT
RESOURCES WE CREATED. OF
VETERANS UNITS IN THE
CONSERVATION CORPS TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE ADDRESS THAT NEED AND
THAT WASN'T THE DE FACTO
DISCRIMINATION AND THERE IS MUCH
MORE DIVERSITY. IN THE VETERANS
THAT ARE COMING OUT RIGHT NOW
THAN IN THE WHOLE BODY OF
VETERANS THAT THAT REALLY DOES
THIS AND SO- I JUST DIDN'T WANT
TO VOTE NO. AND. DID NOT HAVE AN
EXPLANATION OR HOW PEOPLE BE SO.
BUT I THERE ARE WAYS TO THIS BUT
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT-
WHERE THERE'S A POOL THAT'S 80%
MEN GIVING THEM PRIORITY AND- IN
THE HIRING PROCESS SO I JUST
APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO MAKE A
COMMENT YEAH. WELL I WOULD SHARE
YOUR CONCERNS BUT AT THE SAME
TIME- I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH THE
20% THAT ARE FEMALES THAT ARE
OUT THERE LOOKING FOR
EMPLOYMENT. AND MAY COME UP
AGAINST BARRIERS- BECAUSE THEY
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THE
EDUCATION PART THAT THEY NEEDED.
A HAND- AND SO- AND THEN YOU ARE
RIGHT. TODAY'S TODAY'S ARE A
MILITARY IS MUCH MORE DIVERSE.
THAN IT WAS FIFTY YEARS AGO. AND
THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
HELP NOW OUR OUR GULF WAR
VETERANS AND- AND- THEY ARE
YOUNGER- PEOPLE THAT ARE IN
THEIR THIRTIES AND FORTIES. AND
JUSTIN NO WAY ENABLES PEOPLE TO
DISCRIMINATE- WHAT IT L. ENABLES
THEM TO DO IS HIGHER VETERANS-
FOR A VETERAN. EVEN IF THE
VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS- OR EVEN-
PEOPLE THAT JUST WOULD RATHER
PREFER TO HIRE VETERANS- BECAUSE
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
FOR SOMEBODY WHO DID A LOT FOR
THEM. AND SO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD
BE WHY YOU WOULD HAVE SOME OF
VALUATION MECHANISMS IN PLACE.
TO ENSURE THAT THAT AND ALSO THE
EEOC IS STILL OUT THERE. YOU CAN
STILL FILE CLAIMS AND- IN THOSE
THINGS CAN BE INVESTIGATED IF
THEY HAPPEN BUT I AM NOT GOING
TO PUNISH 20% OF THE FEMALES OUT
THERE- THAT OUR VETERANS-
BECAUSE- THE IT'S STILL A I
GUESS YOU COULD CALL A LOPSIDED.
NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY ARE- BUT- I
DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S EVER
GOING TO. GET RIGHTED MISTER
CHAIR I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN THIS
INTO A COLLOQUY BUT I FEEL
OBLIGATED TO COMMENT ON THAT
BECAUSE- OF IT. THE POINT IS
STILL APPOINTED 80% GET
PREFERENCE IN 20% SO YOU PUNISH
THE TWENTY BY GIVING TO EIGHTY A
BENEFIT AND THAT IS REALLY
DIFFERENT AND IT'S NOT. A MATTER
VOC SO I REALLY THINK THAT THE
ISSUE THEN WOULD BE ALONG WITH
SENATOR WIENER SAID. IS IF THERE
ARE REPORTS AND IF YOU DO
AMENDED FREEPORT'S AMENDED FOR
CLASSIFICATIONS OF PEOPLE SO
THAT YOU SEE HOW MANY MEN OR
WOMEN BENEFITTED FROM THIS HOW
MANY PEOPLE OF COLOR DID OR
DIDN'T BENEFIT FROM THIS SO IT
EITHER DEMONSTRATES THE POINT OR
DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE THE POINT-
AND I THINK GETTING THAT
INFORMATION- WOULD REALLY BE
HELPFUL. I THINK THOSE THINGS
CAN BE WORKED INTO THE BILL.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SEEING NONE OF THANK YOU SENATE
SEYARTO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN
ISSUE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY
HOPE I AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU'RE
ADVOCACY- WILL HAVE A BETTER
RESULT IN MY ADVOCACY AND THAT
THE GOVERNOR WILL VIEW THIS MORE
FAVORABLY THAN HE DID. A
PREVIOUS EFFORTS- I LOOK AT THIS
A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THE ALL OF
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT FOR
VETERANS. BUT THIRTY EIGHT
STATES IN THE UNION HAVE A
VETERAN'S PREFERENCE IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR. AND THOSE WHO
RECRUIT NATIONWIDE THOSE WHO
RECRUIT NATIONWIDE- IN THOSE
OTHER THIRTY EIGHT STATES THEY
CAN ASK FOR VETERANS THEY CAN
THEY CAN REQUEST THOSE THAT HAVE
THE SKILLS THAT HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPED COURTESY OF UNCLE SAM.
TO PROFIT AND BENEFIT THEIR
PARTICULAR BUSINESS SOMETHING OF
AIRLINES AND OTHERS SO THERE'S
ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS IN TERMS
OF CALIFORNIA'S COMPETITIVENESS.
CALIFORNIA NOT ONLY IS OF ONE OF
A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT DOESN'T
PERMIT A VETERAN'S PREFERENCE IN
PRIVATE SECTOR. IT ALSO IS THE
ONLY STATE IN THE UNION THAT
DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR SOME SORT OF
TAX RELIEF FOR RETIRED. MILITARY
MEMBERS LITERALLY THE ONLY STATE
IN THE UNION- IN THE- QUESTION
AS THE DISPARATE IMPACT IS ONE
THAT WAS RAISED BY THE GOVERNOR
I THINK IT IT'S WRONG HEADED
BECAUSE THE LOGIC OF SAYING LOOK
AT. IF YOU GIVE A BENEFIT TO
VETERANS THAT THAT SOMEHOW THAT
BENEFIT TO VETERANS BECAUSE THE
UNIVERSE OF VETERANS IS WITH
DISPROPORTIONATELY MALE- THAT
THAT SHOULD NOT EXIST THAT'S THE
SAME ARGUMENT TO ELIMINATE
EDUCATION BENEFITS. HOUSING
BENEFITS ARE IN FACT WE DO GIVE
A VETERAN'S PREFERENCE IN
GOVERNMENTAL HIRING WE GIVE A
VETERAN'S PREFERENCE IN
GOVERNMENT HIDING THIS SIMPLY
SAYS WE CAN DO THE SAME THING IN
THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT WE DO IS
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA I THINK.
STRANGELY ENOUGH THAT THAT
CURRENTLY THE CURRENT
COMPOSITION THE MILITARY IS
DISPROPORTIONATE THERE'S A
DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF
AFRICAN AMERICANS IS A
DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT'S HOW IT
EXISTS TODAY. IN THE MILITARY
THERE IS STILL OVERWHELMINGLY IS
STILL OVERWHELMINGLY MALE- IN
THE PURPOSE OF ADDING THE
ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF
DISCRIMINATION IS AN EMPLOYER
FOR EXAMPLE IS EXAMPLE ONLY
HIRING MALES OR ONLY HIRING.
PEOPLE OF A CERTAIN RACE THAT
KIND OF THING AS OPPOSED TO THE
UNIVERSE OF AVAILABLE VETERANS
SO I AM HOPEFUL AGAIN THE YOUR
ADVOCACY WILL CARRY THE DAY-
AND- I'M ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT
THE BILL SO- IS THERE MOTION. SO
MOVED OKAY CENTER WHAT MOVES THE
BILL. MA'AM SECTOR IF YOU'D CALL
THE ROLL. CLOSE ALL WOULD LIKE
TO CLOSE. MY WILL I MIGHT SAY
JUST A COUPLE MORE WORDS- YES
THIS IS A NEAR AND DEAR TO MY
HEART TO I HAVE A FIFTY FIFTY
VETERANS MEN AND WOMEN IN MY- MY
FAMILY- THEY LIVE OUT OF STATE.
FOR THE VERY REASONS YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT. AND SO- I DON'T
THINK IT'S A LOT TO ASK THAT WE
DO THE SAME THING THAT OTHER
STATES ARE DOING. AND IN TRYING
TO GIVE OUR VETERANS- SOME HOPE
WHEN THEY GET BACK AND EVEN A
LEG UP IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT-
SO THAT. THEY CAN. FOCUS ON
SOMETHING OTHER THAN- THE
TRAUMAS THAT THEY HAVE SUFFERED
ON OUR BEHALF WHETHER IT'S
PHYSICAL OR MENTAL. AND THE BEST
PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR
OTHER VETERANS AND SO I SEE A
LOT OF VETERANS OUT THERE TRYING
TO HELP OTHER VETERANS. AND THIS
IS ONE OF THE WAYS THEY DO THAT
AND WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE
MECHANISM TO DO THAT. AND I MUST
SAY IT ALL OF THE VETERANS I
KNOW- THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE
THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS NO
MATTER WHAT. WHEN WHERE WHERE
THEY CAME FROM WHETHER THEY'RE
MALE OR FEMALE. THEIR BROTHERS
AND SISTERS AND THAT'S HOW THEY
TREAT EACH OTHER. AND THAT SO
WITH YOUR INDULGENCE I WOULD
LIKE TO HELP SUPPORT THEM WITH
THIS BILL SO I ASKED FOR AN AYE
VOTE THANK YOU. ALREADY THANK
YOU MA'AM SIX FIFTY CULTURAL.
THIS IS FILE ITEM SIXTEEN SB
SEVENTY SEVENTY THREE THE MOTION
IS TO PASS IN THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON MILITARY AND
VETERANS AFFAIRS. UMBERG HI
NUMBER I WILL CRY WILK I ALAN.
ASHBY SB I'D RUSSELL. LAYARD
WHERE NO MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE
MEN. AYE MAN AYE IN THE LOW. THE
LITTLE AYE STERN. WIENER WIENER
I. SEVEN ONE ALL RIGHT WE'LL PUT
THAT BACK ON CALL. WE GOT AN
OUTFIT AT THE BEGINNING WHICH.
ONE IF SOMEONE'S WAITING AROUND
FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE- THE CENTER
ARE TO LET HIS BILL- S. S. B.
FIVE FIVE EIGHT FIVE FIVE THAT
BILL IS NOT COULD BE HEARD
TODAY. SO SEN. SENATE MCGUIRE
WHAT WISHES TO BE UNIQUE SO GO
AHEAD SIR MCGUIRE. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING WE'RE ALL GETTING
TWENTY. I KNOW I'M IN- IN FRONT
OF THE EVENING AND I WILL BE
QUICK LONG STORY SHORT- SB SIX
FIFTY EIGHT. IS A CLEAN BILL OF
A PREVIOUS BILL THAT WE ADVANCE
A FEW YEARS AGO- AND OF COURSE
I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS PROPOSED IN THE
ANALYSIS AND I'M GRATEFUL TO THE
CHAIR INTO HIS INCREDIBLE STAFF
FOR WORKING WITH US I WORKING WE
ARE WORKING IN COORDINATION AND
WITH IN SUPPORT. OF THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE I
WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO
DR WEBER AT FOR HER FANTASTIC
PARTNERSHIP SB TWENTY SEVEN WAS
THE ORIGINAL BILL BACK IN TWO
THOUSAND NINETEEN ENDED STAB
WISH. A FRAMEWORK FOR GOVERNOR
CANDIDATES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THEIR
INCOME TAX RETURNS AS A
PROVISION FOR INCLUSION IN THE
PRIMARY ELECTION BALLOT THIS
ADVANCES NECESSARY CLEANUP AT
WORKING AWAY IN CORONATION WITH
THE SECTOR STATES OFFICE THAT IS
WHY WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. AND TO THE MAN THE MYTH
THE LEGEND WHO HAS BEEN HERE ALL
AFTERNOON MISTER MOLE HAUSER I
WAS LEGISLATIVE LIAISON WITH THE
SECTOR STATES OFFICES FROM
HAUSER YOU DESERVE A MEDAL AND A
COFFEE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR- MEMBERS- TABLE
HOUSE ARE BEHALF OF SECRETARY OF
STATE SHIRLEY WEBER. SUPPORTER
OF SB SIX FIFTY EIGHT THANKS
SENATE MCGUIRE FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA.
EXPRESSED APPRECIATION OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH- DRIVE
A THANK YOU YOU GOT MORE TIMES
HAS BEEN WAITING HERE ALL DAY.
GO AHEAD ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HAS MONEY
ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. LET ME I'VE
I'M GETTING LITTLE PUNCHY HERE
LET ME TAKE OTHER SUPPORT OTHER
SUPPORT HERE IN THE ROOM SING
KNOWN APPROACH AND MY PHONE.
OPPOSITION OPPOSITION HERE IN
THE ROOM IF YOU APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE ALRIGHT. LET'S CUE UP
THOSE ON THE PHONE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF CENTER
MAGUIRE'S SB. SIX FIVE EIGHT.
JIM IF YOU ARE AN ORDER
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE.
ZERO AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT
IN THE QUEUE. ALL RIGHT BRING
BACK COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS SIX SENATOR
LAYERED MOVES THE BILL ALL
RIGHT. I WOULD CARE CLOSE AND
WATER RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO THERE WE
GO. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT YOU ARE AT PAYING ATTENTION
THAT'S ALL I FEEL LIKE MY
GRANDPA WHO- ALWAYS HAD THAT THE
HIS LIGHT ON THE PHONE. AND HE
PUT HIS PHONE IN HIS POCKET IN
SO HE WAS ALWAYS FLASHING THE
LIGHT OUT OF HIS POCKET OKAY.
THANK YOU YOU HAVE TO GO. TO GET
THE AWARD FOR THE MOST UNIQUE
CLOTHES TODAY THANK YOU SIR ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL
RIGHT. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL.
THIS IS FILE ITEM TWELVE SB SIX
FIFTY EIGHT THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS I'M
BURKE AYE. NUMBER I WILL CRY
WILK AYE ALLEN. ASHBY SB I'D
RUSSELL. WHERE'D WEIRD I AM
ACQUIRE. WIRE I AM IN. YOU WILL
. YOU WILL AYE STERN WIENER.
WIENER I. SEVEN ZERO SEVEN ZERO
WILL PUT THAT ON CALL A NEXT
WE'VE CENTER LAYER THEN WE- THEN
THE FINAL BILL SB SEVENTY ONE.
BY BURKE AND THEN WE WILL OPEN
THE ROLL. AND ROLL THROUGH IT
ONCE AND I HOPE ONLY ONCE ALL
RIGHT CENTER LAYERED ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY ONE. S. B. FIVE SIX FOR
THE HOUR IS LATE I'M GONNA
BREVIARY MY STATEMENT THIS BILL
WOULD RAISE SHERIFF'S FEES FOR
PROCESSES. AND NOTICES THEY WERE
LAST RAISED IN TWENTY FIFTEEN
AND BEFORE THAT IN TWENTY TEN
THIS INCREASES MODEST IT DOESN'T
EVEN KEEP UP WITH INFLATION.
THERE WAS ONE LIGHT LETTER IN
OPPOSITION IT ADDRESSES THINGS
THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE BILL.
AND DON'T THINK. IS RIGHT- WE
HAVE A WITNESS CHIEF CIVIL
DEPUTY MICHAEL MARKETS. ARE UP
TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND SINCE THE
ANALYSIS WAS. FINALIZED WE
RECEIVED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
LEVERS LETTERS. FROM MARIN
RIVERSIDE ALAMEDA AND YUBA
COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICES- I
WOULD ASK FOR AN IPHONE. ALL
THANK YOU. CLOSURES B. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS- MY NAME'S
MICHAEL MATZ I'M THE CHIEF TOLD
DEPUTY FOR THE MADERA COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE I'M ALSO THE-
LAYS ON CHAIR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION WHICH
IS A SPONSOR OF THIS BILL- I
KINDLY REQUEST AND I VOTE FOR
THIS BILL. DUE TO THE FACT OF
JUST LIKE CENTER WAS STAND IS
THAT THE FEES HAVE NOT BEEN
INCREASED SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND
FOURTEEN THEY HAVE NOT KEPT UP
WITH THE WITH THE COST OF DOING
BUSINESS- AB OUR HOPE IS THAT.
BY INCREASING THESE FEES- JUST A
LITTLE BIT THERE WERE ASKING
WILL HELP WITH THAT- THE- TO
HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE- THE
ISSUES THAT THE SHERIFF'S ARE
FACING. BASED OFF OF WHAT
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO UNDER THE
STATUTE AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT
AND CIVIL PROCESSES THE ONE KEY
THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT
IN THE SPEECH THE BILL IS THAT.
IT THIS WILL NOT IMPACT PEOPLE
THAT CANNOT AFFORD IT- THE
PROCESS IS BASED ON THE FACT
THAT THEY STILL HAVE THE
AVAILABILITY. TO APPLY TO THE
COURTS TO GET A FEE WAIVER TO
WAIVE THE SHERIFF'S FEES- SO I
THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT
TO POINT OUT THE OTHER THING I
WANTED TO TALK ARE JUST GOING TO
MENTION IS THAT. ON THE CIVIL
COMMITTEE FOR THE STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION WHICH I AND THE
CULTURE I ALSO INSTRUCT US CIVIL
ENFORCEMENT CLASSES UP AND DOWN
STATE. SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND
FOUR- SO IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS ALL BEEF FEEL FREE TO
ASK ON YOUR ANSWER. THANK YOU.
NEXT OTHER WINNERS IN SUPPORT.
SAYING NO ONE ELSE POACH
POACHING MICROPHONE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. NO ONE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE ALRIGHT MODERATE FEUD
QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE SIX FOUR.
WE'D BE GRATEFUL. OF COURSE ONCE
AGAIN IF YOU WISH YOU IF YOU ARE
WHICH MAKE COMING YOUR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION EXPRESSED. START
OR ONE. WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE
NINETY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD-
BREAK BRING UP WITH YOU ORANGE
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN
SUPPORT. NEXT WE'RE GONNA WIND
NINETY PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GRETCHEN
LICHTENBERGER ON THE LEGISLATIVE
CHAIR PERSON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF JUDGMENT
PROFESSIONALS. AND WE ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE SIXTY FOUR
UNLESS AMENDED. WE UNDERSTAND
MONADS INCREASING THE FEES FOR
THE SHERIFF'S MAY BE JUSTIFIED
HOWEVER IT IS OUR POSITION. HOW
AND WHEN MILLION FEMALE YEAH I
AM MA'AM MA'AM MA'AM- YOUR NAME
YOUR AFFILIATION IN YOUR
POSITION. I APOLOGIZE I THOUGHT
I WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ONE OF THE
TESTIFIES FOR OPPOSITION YOU ARE
YOU IF YOU WERE WHAT WE'VE WE'VE
CHANGED THE RULES- IN TERMS OF
PRIMARY SUPPORT OPPOSITION YOU
NEED TO APPEAR. PERSONALLY YOU
CAN APPEAR ON THE PHONE AND GIVE
US YOUR NAME YOUR POSITION AND
YOUR AFFILIATION. SO YOU'RE IN
REAL LIFE THAT. OKAY ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL RIGHT
OTHERS ON THE PHONE LINE.
MEXICO'S TWO ONE ONE TWENTY ONE
NINETY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
EVENING RYAN MORE MEANING FROM
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES- HERE IN SUPPORT OF
THE MEASURE THANK YOU THANK YOU
. THEY'RE CURRENTLY NONE OTHER
IN THE QUEUE ALL RIGHT LET'S
BRING BACK COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS SEEING NO
QUESTIONS IS THERE A MOTION.
CENTERMAN MOST THE BILL ALL
RIGHT CENTER LAYERED SO I COULD
WELL BOUNCE BETWEEN A NEED TO
FIND JUSTICE AND PRESERVING
ACCESS TO JUDGE JUSTICE I WOULD
ASTRONOMICAL THANK YOU ALL
RIGHT- MADAM SECRETARY IF YOU
WOULD CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY ONE SB
FIVE SIXTY FOR THE MOTION IS TO
PASS A BURKE HI. NUMBER I WILK
WILK I ALAN. ASHBY SB I'D
RUSSELL. AIRED LAYERED I MCGUIRE
. CHOIR I AM MEN MEN I ANY LOW.
NEW LOW AYE STERN WIENER. WIENER
I. TWO ZERO EIGHT ZERO PUT THAT
ON CALL. ALL RIGHT NEXT IS OUR
FINAL BILL WHICH IS SB SEVENTY
ONE BY NUMBER. THANK YOU SIR.
THE VERBAL. I KNOW IT DOESN'T
OPEN UP THAT WAY. THE LAST.
MENDOZA IS OUT OF ORDER. YEAH
ALL RIGHT HERE WE GO ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
ENERGY. ALL RIGHT THIS IS OUR
FINAL BILL OF THE DAY IT IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY SEVEN S. B.
SIX FIVE TWO BY CENTER- BURKE
AND THE ASSOCIATION OF ANYONE.
THE FIRM. THAT LETS YOU WANT TO
DO THE ONE ON CONSENT. WHATEVER
YEP YOU'RE RIGHT ALL RIGHT.
ANYWAY IT HAS- MOTIONED AT DO
PASSED TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON PUBLIC SAFETY. YES ALL RIGHT
. THIS YOU SEE IT SB SEVENTY ONE
OF I'D LIKE SPEND TEN TO FIFTEEN
MINUTES GOING OVER THE HISTORY
OF JURISDICTION IN CALIFORNIA
AND HOW IT APPLIES IN TERMS OF
LIMITS. I CENTER AND APPARENTLY
IT THAT'S NOT UNIVERSALLY
WELCOMED- ALL RIGHT SO HERE'S
WHAT THIS BILL DOES THIS BILL
THIS BILL CHANGES THE PRIMARILY
CHANGE THE JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS
IN TERMS OF SMALL CLAIMS ALSO OF
LIMITED JURISDICTION. OF COURTS
IN CALIFORNIA- WE HAVE A REGIMEN
WHERE WE HAVE SMALL CLAIMS
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SMALL
CLAIMS WE ALSO HAVE LIMITED
JURISDICTION LIMITED
JURISDICTION RIGHT NOW THOSE UP
TO TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS-
CASES THAT ARE FILED WITH
LIMITED JURISDICTION HAVE. UP A
DIFFERENT DISCOVERY PARAMETERS
IN FACT YOU'RE ALLOWED TAKE ONE
DEPOSITION OF THIS IS NOW SUCH
THAT IT LIMITS ACCESS TO JUSTICE
IF YOU HAVE A DISPUTE- YOU.
RARELY RARELY CONFINED FOR
EXAMPLE ATTORNEY TO HANDLE
LIMITED JURISDICTION MATTER WHAT
THIS DOES IS IT WILL RAISE THE
LIMITS ON LIMITED JURISDICTION
AS WELL SMALL CLAIMS CASES BOB
THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS I
WANT TO THANK. CHRISTIAN COMPU
SKI AND I'M ZACH KELLER MY
OFFICE FOR WORKING HARD ON THIS
THING THIS WILL. BE AMENDED
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLAR. LIMIT ON
LIMITED JURISDICTIONS BETWEEN
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND A HUNDRED I
EXPECT THAT THEY'LL BE SOME
MODIFICATIONS THAT I ALSO
EXPECTED TO BE SOME
MODIFICATIONS AS TO. THE TYPES
OF CASES THAT WILL FALL WITHIN
THE JURISDICTION- FOR PERSONAL
INJURY CASES MOST LIKELY AS WELL
AS BUSINESS DISPUTES MOST
LIKELY- AND IN TERMS OF THE
SCOPE OF DISCOVERY WILL BE
LIMITED BUT NOT LIMITED TO ONE
DEPOSITION- WE'VE- BROUGHT
TOGETHER THE STAKEHOLDERS IN ARE
MAKING. SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS BUT
IT'S TIME THAT WE- BASICALLY
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO
JUSTICE FOR THOSE DISPUTES
BETWEEN TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND A
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HIGHER
DR VOTE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES ALL. I'M
IT. MUST BE NICE TO BE CHAIR THE
COMMITTEE. AREN'T ANY ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE ROOM. IN TERMS OF-
SUPPORT O. QUE NO MOVE TO. MOVE
. NOW I WILL TURN IT WILL MOVE
TO- I AM VERY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU ROBERT
MEASURE CALIFORNIA RECOVERS AS
WE THE NICEST IN PREVIOUS OFFICE
POSSIBLE IN THOSE TALKS
APPRECIATED AND JUST CURRENT
WORK IN LOGISTICS APPROPRIATE
DISCOVERY TO THE VALUE THANK YOU
. ACTUALLY THAT IS MONEY THAT
THAT WAS THE BEST OPPOSITION
I'VE EVER HAD. SO IN. ANY ANY
OTHER. OTHER MEMBERS. IN THE
ROOM WHEN A TESTIFYING IN
OPPOSITION SAYING NINE WHEN I
MOVED TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
WE WILL TAKE ADVOCATES FROM BOTH
THE PRO AND THE CON POSITION.
MODERATOR YOU READY. THIS IS A
SB SEVENTY ONE. OF COURSE PLAYED
IN ONCE AGAIN IF YOU WISH TO
MAKE COMMON IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE TO.
ZERO WELL FIRST OF A LINE THIRTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
SANDY LEVIN RUN. THE DIRECTOR OF
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY LAW
LIBRARY AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF THE ENTIRE STATEWIDE COUNCIL
OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY WALGREENS
TO FURTHER DEEP CONCERNS
REGARDING THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE
IMPACT SB SEVENTY ONE WHICH HOW
LONG CAN WE LAW LIBRARIES AND
ACCESS TO JUSTICE. UNLESS THE
BILL IS AMENDED IN MARCH WE
SUBMITTED A PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
THAT WOULD PROTECT EXISTING
KELLY LAW LIBRARY FILING FEE
REVENUE WILL LEAVE THE REMAINDER
OF THE BILL'S PROVISIONS INTACT.
YOU CAN'T BE SEVENTY ONE MOVE
FORWARD WE STRONGLY URGE YOU TO
AMEND THE BILL ELIMINATES THE
UNINTENDED IMPACT ON THE LOW
INCOME AND VULNERABLE INDIVIDUAL
WHO WE SERVE AND WHO THIS BILL
WAS INTENDED FOR CATS. WE ARE
ALREADY STRUGGLING TO PROVIDE
SERVICES I'M SORRY I'M SORRY MAN
I'M SORRY MA'AM I'M THE
TEMPORARY CHAIR AND I FORGOT THE
RULES. AT TO BE A PRIMARY
WITNESS YOU HAVE TO BE HERE IN
THE ROOM SO YOU MAY STATE YOUR
NAME. ORGANIZATION AND YOUR
POSITION. AND THAT'S ALL I
APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THANK YOU
HAVE DONE THAT MY APPRECIATE
YOUR- THEY YOU. YEAH NATURAL ONE
ONE SEVENTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
. THE FRENCHMAN THE DIRECTOR OF
THE STANISLAUS COUNTY LAW
LIBRARY AND PRESIDENT OF THE
COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIAN. AND WHILE THE COUNCIL
DOESN'T TAKE AN OFFICIAL
POSITION WE URGE AMENDMENT TO
THE BILL TO MANY TO MINIMIZE
IMPACT. ON COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES
AND THEIR FUNDING STRUCTURE
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION AND YOUR LONG
STANDING COMMITMENT TO ACCESS TO
JUSTICE. THANK YOU. THE NEXT
CAROLINE FORTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS EMILY BURKE FILE
DIRECTOR OF THE ALAMEDA COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY I AM NOT OPPOSED SB
SEVENTY ONE TO ONE HE- ADDED THE
ISSUE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT. I
URGE YOU TO NEUTRALIZE SB
SEVENTY ONE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT
ON COUNTY LAW LIBRARY FUNDING I
THOUGHT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
TO CCP ONE SIXTEEN TO THIRTY.
AND ALL RIGHT ALSO BECAUSE
THERE'S ME EXCUSE ME WE'VE BEEN
WE'VE BEEN ON THE LINE LONG
ENOUGH NAME ORGANIZATION IN
POSITION. SO I I'M GOING TO HAVE
TO CUT THAT OFF BECAUSE- THIS.
TIME I'M DOING THAT. LIBRARIAN
SHOULD KNOW BETTER. NEXT TO THE
LINE THIRTY EIGHT PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI I'M LAURIE VALLA
DIRECTOR OF THE SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY AND I'M
CALLING IN TO URGE AN AMENDMENT
TO SB SEVENTY ONE TO PROTECT
FUNDING FOR COUNTY LAW LIBRARY.
THANK YOU THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE
ONE MORE THAT HAS QUEUED UP ONE
MOMENT WHILE THEY'RE GIVEN THEIR
LINE NUMBER EXCELLENT.
NVAX WILL BE GOING TO FIND ONE
NINETY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU THAT YOU CAN FIND THE
ALAMEDA COUNTY LAW LIBRARY I
DON'T HAVE A POSITION THAT. WILL
ADVOCATE FOR THE AMENDED BY THAT
CAMPO CALIFORNIA COUNTY. THANK
YOU SIR. THEY'RE CURRENTLY NONE
OTHER IN THE QUEUE AT THIS TIME
MODERATOR EXCELLENT JOB THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK TODAY NOW PULL
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS
CENTER WIENER. HI I REMEMBER-
LITIGATING- LIMITED LIABILITY
CASES IN THE LATE NINETEEN
NINETIES AND EARLY TWO THOUSANDS
WHEN TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND WITH
THE JURISDICTIONAL THRESHOLD SO
IT'S DEFINITELY OVER DUE TO
INCREASE THAT THE THRESHOLD- I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER
IS MAYBE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE.
TIED TO CPI AND EVERY TIME IT
HITS A CERTAIN FIVE PER 5% OR
10% YOU KNOW GOES UP I DON'T
KNOW BUT- I SUPPORT THAT I I'LL
BE HONEST I DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT THE SMALL CLAIMS
ARE INCLUDED WHAT IS TEN
THOUSAND NOW IT WILL GO UP TO
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. IT'S SMALL
CLAIMS VERY VALUABLE FOR PEOPLE
BE ABLE TO GO IN THE CORE AND
NOT HAVE EXPENSIVE LITIGATION
AND AT ALL SO IT'S A GOOD THING
THERE IS THE FLIP SIDE OF IT IS
THAT FOR DEPENDENTS THERE ARE
TIMES WHEN YOU CAN NO YOU DON'T
GET. NEARLY THE PROCESSING YOUR
PALATE RIGHTS ARE EXTREMELY
LIMITED AND SO THE HIGHER YOU
MAKE A NEW NOTICE- THE MORE YOU
SORT OF RISK IT'S A LARGER
AMOUNT OF MONEY AND SO FOR
EXAMPLE THE CITY OF SAN
FRANCISCO- GET SUED A LOT- FOR
ALL SORTS OF THINGS IN SMALL
CLAIMS NO LIMITED TO SMALL
CLAIMS. SO THEY CAN JUST GET THE
TEN THOUSAND GET THE TEN
THOUSAND AND THAT YOU KNOW IT'S
AN IMPACT ON ON TAXPAYERS AND
SOME OF THOSE CLAIMS A
MERITORIOUS SUMMER DEFINITELY
NOT- BUT THE CITY HAS. ALMOST NO
DUE PROCESS AND DEFENDING THOSE.
CASES INDEPENDENT TAXPAYER
DOLLARS. SEE AN INCREASE AT THE
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. IT IT IT
DOES CAUSE ME A LITTLE BIT OF-
CONCERNED I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS
THAT- AND. IF THAT'S SOMETHING
YOU COULD POSSIBLY TAKE A LOOK
AT. THESE ARE JUST ONE YET YEAH
CENTER. OF YOUR POINTS WELL
TAKEN- I EXPECTED THAT. TWENTY
FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR- CAP WILL
PROBABLY BE MODIFIED IN A
DOWNWARD FASHION EXACTLY WHERE
THAT WILL LAND I'M NOT CERTAIN
AT THIS POINT IN TIME- SMALL
CLAIMS PROVIDE ACCESS TO
JUSTICE- FOR THOSE. FOR THOSE
WHO ORDINARILY WOULD HAVE NO
ACCESS. BUT I TAKE YOUR POINT TO
THAT. IT COULD BE USED AS A- A
SLEDGEHAMMER AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT FOLKS WHILE THEY
HAVE ACCESS TO JUSTICE ARE.
BASICALLY OPPRESSED BY WHATEVER
FIGURE WE LAND THAT IN TERMS OF
THE LAW LIBRARIES- WE WILL FIX.
THE THE CAP ON SMALL CLAIMS AND
WE WILL- BASICALLY MAKE SURE
THAT THE LAUBER LAW LIBRARIES
ARE NOT- BRIDGES BEYOND YOU KNOW
WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW- THEY
PROVIDE A VERY VALUABLE RESOURCE
FOR THE COMMUNITY- BOTH ENGINES
AND EVEN PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT
ACTUALLY LIKE TO GO LAW
LIBRARIES AND SEE THOSE WEIRD
THINGS THAT ARE ON SHELVES THAT
HAVE PAPER AND- SELL- THANK YOU
. SEN AROUND YEAH I JUST WANNA
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR THE FOR
THAT LAST COMMENT. I MEAN THAT'S
MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THE BILL
IS THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE LOT
LEIBER'S LOW LIBRARIES WE WILL.
WE WILL WORK WITH THE LAW
LIBRARIES- THAT THEY ARE ARE NOT
ADVERSELY IMPACTED I MEAN
THEY'RE ALREADY STRETCHED THEN I
KNOW THAT. WILL ALL RIGHT. SO
SEEING NO COMMENTS AS CENTER MAN
MOVES THE BILL CENTER I'M BURKE
WOULD YOU CARE TO CLOSE I
APPRECIATE ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS
WHO ARE PARTICIPATED IN THIS
PROCESS AND WILL CONTINUE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS BROAD
PROCESS TO. PRODUCE A PRODUCT
THAT IS- A BENEFIT TO. LOTS LOTS
MORE CALIFORNIANS REGIONAL VOTE
GREAT. WITH THAT. CLERK WILL
CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY SIX SB SEVENTY ONE THE
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY I'M
BURKE HI NUMBER AYE WILK HI.
WILK AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
ASHLEY. ASHLEY I'D RUSSELL NEXT
LAYERED. LAYERED I'M ACQUIRE.
MCGUIRE I'M IN. MAN I ANY LOW.
THE LITTLE AYE STERN. WIENER.
WIENER WIENER I. YEAH. NINE ZERO
NINE ZERO. WHAT NINE ZERO YOU
HAVE TO KNOW- NINE ZERO. AND
IT'S OUT. NINE ZERO ZERO.
CONGRATULATIONS CENTER I'M VERY
NINE ZERO THE BILL IS OUT AND ON
HIS YOU PUBLIC STATE.
ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO START
WITH THAT ONE FINE THAT'S FINE
WHATEVER OKAY FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWENTY TWO SB SEVEN FOUR ONE BY
SENATOR MEN SHARE VOTING I
LAYERED. LAYERED I'M ACQUIRE.
MCGUIRE I KNEW LOW. MILANO'S
STERN. AND NINE TO ONE THAT'S
OUT RIGHT ON THE BILLS OUT THANK
YOU. OKAY. JUST A REMINDER TO
EVERYONE TO- BRING AND DRINK THE
RED BULL FOR NEXT WEEK'S HEARING
SO- YEAH THE YEAH WE- RIGHT. ALL
RIGHT LET'S GO THROUGH ALL OF
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO SB SEVEN
HUNDRED BY SENATOR BRADFORD WITH
THE CHAIR VOTING AYE ALLEN.
ALLEN I DO RUSSELL MEN MAN ON A
STERN. AND SEVENTY TWO SEVENTY
TWO THE BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT SB SIX FOUR FOUR BY
SENATOR GLAZER CHAIR VOTING AYE
ALLEN. ALLEN I DO RUSSELL.
EARNED NINE NINETY THREE BILLS
OUT NINE ZERO NINE ZERO THE
BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE
SB SIX EIGHTY THREE BY SENATOR
GLAZERS CHAIR VOTING AYE ALLEN.
ALLEN I TO RUSSELL MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE STERN. NINETY ZERO.
NINE ZERO BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER TEN- S. B. FOR THIRTY
FIVE AYE SENATOR GONZALEZ JR
VOTING AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I DO
WRESTLE NERO. STERN. EIGHT TWO
ZERO EIGHT ZERO BILLS OUT. THANK
. FILE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN S. B.
TWO TWENTY FOUR BY SENATOR
HOOKED THAT'LL A CHAIR VOTING I
. ALAN MAKER FROM. ASHBY A NEW
LOW STERN. OVER THE- TO THE.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO REPORT ON. WE
HAVE. WE HAVE OKAY. OKAY SO I
SAW THAT ALL RIGHT THAT BILLS ON
REMAINS ON CALL OKAY RIGHT. FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWELVE SB SIX FIFTY
EIGHT BY SENATOR REQUIRE ALAN.
ALLEN I DO WRESTLE MEN. AND I
STERN NINE ZERO. NINE ZERO BILLS
OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER FOURTEEN
SB NINETY FIVE BY SENATOR ROTH
WITH THE CHAIR VOTING AYE ALLEN
. ALLEN I STERN. NINE ONE THAT'S
AND I WANT BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIFTEEN SB FIVE NINE FIVE
BY SENATOR ROTH WITH THAT YOU'RE
VOTING AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I CAN
THIS YEAR AND ZERO BILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER SIXTEEN SB
SEVENTY THREE BY CENTER SEYARTO
TEACHER VOTING AYE ALLEN. ALLEN
I DO RUSSELL STERN. HE TWO ONE
EIGHT ONE BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWENTY ONE SB FIVE SIXTY
FOUR BY SENATOR LAYERED WITH THE
CHAIR VOTING AYE ALLEN. ALLEN I
DO RUSSELL STERN. NINE ZERO NINE
ZERO BILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN S. B.
TWO TWENTY FOUR BY SENATOR
RICARDO WITH THE CHAIR VOTING
AYE ALLEN. ASHBY NERO STERN.
ALLEN I. SIX TWO TWO SIX TWO
BILLS OUT. THE THAT'S IT WE'RE
DONE. EVERYBODY NEXT WEEK. WITH
A CALL. NO THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE
OFFICER. OKAY WE'RE GENTIL NEXT
TUESDAY THANK YOU.