THIS COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY
WILL COME TO ORDER GOOD MORNING
THE SENATE CONTINUE TO WELCOME
THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8160 THREE AND ACCESS
CODE IS. SIXTY NINE FORTY EIGHT
NINETY THREE ZERO PHONE
TESTIMONY WILL BE LIMITED TO
FIFTEEN MINUTES FOR EACH BILL WE
ARE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED IN THE- STREET BUILDING
I ASK ALL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE TO BE PRESENT IN THE
ROOM- SO WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR
QUORUM AND BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE
HAVE NINETEEN BILLS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA AND ONE IS ON CONSENT
BEFORE WE HEAR PRESENTATIONS ON
THE BILL'S LET'S ESTABLISH A
QUORUM ASSISTANT PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. THIRTY BOB HERE WHAT HERE-
JOB OKAY HERE HERE BRADFORD
BRADFORD HERE SKINNER WIENER.
THIS IS DENOTES A QUORUM HAS
BEEN ESTABLISHED NOW LET'S HEAR
FROM OUR FIRST AUTHOR SENATOR
PORTANTINO S. B. TWO. WELCOME TO
FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU- MADAM
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
SHOULD. SB TWO. WELL IMPLEMENTED
VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS THE
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING CONCEALED
CARRY WEAPONS REGIME IN RESPONSE
TO THE RECENT- UNITED STATES
SUPREME COURT DECISION IN NEW
YORK RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION VERSE BERMAN. S. B.
TO HELP STRENGTHEN OUR STATE LAW
BY ENSURING THOSE CARRYING
FIREARMS IN PUBLIC ARE
RESPONSIBLE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
WHO WOULD ARGUE WITH THAT BEING
RESPONSIBLE LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS. WHO DO NOT POSE A
DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS
WHO SHOULD ARGUE WITH THAT.
ACTING CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS
FROM GUN VIOLENCE BY SETTING A
MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENT OF
TWENTY ONE. TO OBTAIN A CCW AS
OPPOSED EIGHTEEN CAN YOU HAVE TO
BE TWENTY FIVE TO RENT A CAR.
SEEMS LOGICAL THAT WE SHOULD
HAVE AN AGE REQUIREMENT THAT'S
COMMENSURATE WITH THIS AWESOME
RESPONSIBILITY. ADVANCING SAFETY
THROUGH STRONGER TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE PROPER
HANDLING LOADING AND UNLOADING
AND STORAGE OF FIREARMS CREE TO
SAFEGUARDING THE PUBLIC BY
IDENTIFYING CERTAIN SENSITIVE
PUBLIC PLACES WHERE GUNS MAY NOT
BE CARRIED FRANKLY YOU DON'T
NEED TO TAKE A GUN TO YOUR
DAUGHTERS AYSO SOCCER GAME.
ADDITIONALLY SB TWO WILL ALSO
PROMOTE DUE PROCESS BY ALLOWING
ANYONE WHOSE APPLICATION IS
DENIED TO RECEIVE A HEARING
BEFORE JUDGE OF THE SUPREME
COURT FOR AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF
REVIEW. MAKES SENSE. HAVE AN
APPEAL PROCESS THESE NEW
PROCEDURES WILL ENSURE THAT
CONSIST THAT IT WE ARE
CONSISTENT WITH CALIFORNIA'S
SUPREME THAT WITH THE SUPREME
COURT DECISION IN BROWN. ONLY
LAW ABIDING AND RESPONSIBLE
APPLICANTS FOR CCW LICENSES WILL
BE AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE ONE.
GUN VIOLENCE HAS WEEK TRAGICALLY
SAW YET AGAIN YESTERDAY- AND GOD
BLESS- THE FAMILIES OF THOSE
THOSE LITTLE KIDS I MEAN. GUN
VIOLENCE INFLICTS A TERRIBLE
TOLL ON OUR COMMUNITIES. LAST
YEAR NEARLY TWENTY THOUSAND
PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN GUN
RELATED HOMICIDES IN THE UNITED
STATES. PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE
IT'S ENOUGH PEOPLE TO FILL
FORTY. BOEING SEVEN FORTY
SEVENS. AND SADLY THE NUMBER
KEEPS RISING. AND THE PROBLEM IS
JUST NOT ILLEGAL GUNS AT LEAST
76% OF THE GUNS USED IN MASS
SHOOTINGS OVER THE PAST THIRTY
FIVE YEARS. WERE OBTAINED
LEGALLY. THERE IS AMPLE EVIDENCE
SHOWING THAT INCREASED PUBLIC
CARRYING OF FIREARMS LEADS TO
MORE VIOLENCE FROM THE SENATE
AGAIN. THE DATA SHOWS. THAT WE
ARE LESS SAFE THE MORE GUNS ARE
IN CIRCULATION. ADDING GUNS
INCREASES THE CHANCES THAT
OTHERWISE NONLETHAL INTERACTION
SUCH AS ROAD RAGE DISPUTE OVER-
TALKING ON A CELLPHONE OR EVEN
IN A MOVIE THEATER TURNED
DEADLY. AND MORE PEOPLE CARRYING
FIREARMS LEADS TO MORE THEFTS OF
FIREARMS UP 35% OR MORE. MORE
FIREARMS IN PUBLIC PLACES ALSO
CREATES CHALLENGES FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT THE DOJ CONSULTED
WITH PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERTS AND
PROMINENT SCHOLARS ACROSS THE
NATION TO ENSURE THAT THIS
MEASURE IS CONSTITUTIONAL AND
CONSISTENT WITH THE SAME SUPREME
COURT DECISION. SO AGAIN. WE'RE
TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE
SUPREME COURT'S DECISION BY
PROMOTING A BY PROMOTING A-
CONSISTENT APPLICATION OF THE
CCW PERMIT PROCESS AND THEN
USING. COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC TO
MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE A
ROBUST LIST OF PROHIBITED PLACES
TO WHERE ONE CAN CARRY THEIR
WEAPON- WE SHOULD URGENTLY PASS
THIS WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THE
GOVERNOR'S DESK AND WE SHOULD.
MAKE SURE THAT CALIFORNIA'S MADE
SAFER- WITH ME THIS MORNING HAVE
AMAZING AMAZING PERSON TO
SKINNER TELL US ABOUT HER
PERSONAL STORY- ME A PAGE TRACK
WHO IS A SURVIVOR OF GUN
VIOLENCE AND- BY THE- STUDENTS
DEMAND ACTION. VOLUNTEER SHE'S
JUST YOU KNOW PLEASE LISTEN HER
WE ALSO HAVE. CANDACE CHONG FROM
THE DOJ AND THEN WE HAVE
MICHAEL- FROM THE DOJ WHO'S HERE
TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AYE BUT WHEN APPROPRIATE AND
IF WE CAN HAVE. OUR PRIMARY
WITNESSES COME FORWARD THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE THANK. YOU THANK
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI I'M
TRYING AND I'M A SENIOR AT
SAUGUS HIGH SCHOOL IN SANTA
CLARITA CALIFORNIA IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA WHERE I LEAD MY
STUDENTS MADE ACTION GROUP AND
I'M ON THE NATIONAL ADVISORY
BOARD FOR STUDENTS DEMAND ACTION
. I WAS A FRESHMAN AT SAUGUS
WHEN A STUDENT I DIDN'T KNOW PUT
A FORTY FIVE CALIBER GOES GOING
OUT OF HIS BACKPACK. AND SHOT ME
AND FOR OTHERS. I WAS AIRLIFTED
TO THE HOSPITAL AND UNDERWENT
SURGERY IS TO REMOVE A BULLET
FROM MY STOMACH. LATER THAT
NIGHT MY PARENTS TOLD ME THAT MY
FIFTEEN YEAR OLD MY FOURTEEN
YEAR OLD BEST FRIEND. DOMINIC
BLACKWELL WHO IS STANDING RIGHT
NEXT TO ME WAS KILLED. THESE
DAYS BEING A SOMEONE BEING
SOMEONE WHO SHOT IN A SCHOOL
SHOOTING. IS NOT UNIQUE. WHAT'S
UNIQUE ABOUT MY STORIES THAT I'M
STILL ALIVE. HEALING FROM THIS
TRAGEDY IS AN EVERYDAY BATTLE.
AND SO MANY OTHERS INJURED THE
SAME PAIN. I FEAR PUBLIC PLACES
IN LARGE CROWDS AND EVEN SCHOOL
HAS BECOME A PLACE OF ANXIETY
INSTEAD OF LEARNING. THE THOUGHT
THAT JUST ANYONE CAN BE CARRYING
A FIREARM IN PLACES THAT ARE
INTENDED TO BE SAFE. IS
HORRIFYING. PARKS AND LIBRARIES
AND COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
NEED TO BE SAFE. THIS BILL WILL
HELP ME AND OTHER STUDENTS WHO
LIVE IN FEAR. IF LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER IS RESPONDING TO A
VIOLENT SITUATION IT IS SO MUCH
HARDER TO IDENTIFY WHO THE
THREAT IS IF EVERYONE IS
CARRYING A FIREARM. THIS BILL
WILL HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT STAY
SAFE AND PROTECT US. GUNS ARE
THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR
CHILDREN AND TEENS. AND THIS IS
A AMERICAN SPECIFIC UP BACK UP A
DUMMY. THE MORE GUNS IN
SENSITIVE PLACES IS NOT THE
ANSWER. I REFUSE TO CONTINUE
WATCHING PEOPLE LIKE ME DIE IN
SCHOOLS AND I REFUSE TO FEEL ON
EDGE AT THE GROCERY STORE.
REFUSED TO AVOID CONCERTS AND
SPORTING EVENTS REFUSED TO
SEARCH FOR MY EXIT SIGNS
EVERYWHERE I GO. AND THIS IS THE
LAND OF THE FREE. AND WE CAN BE
FREE OF GUN VIOLENCE. BUT IT
WILL TAKE ALL OF US. SO PLEASE I
BEG OF YOU TO SUPPORT SB TWO SO
WE CAN CONTINUE LEADING THE
NATION CALIFORNIA TO END GUN
VIOLENCE THANK YOU. THANK. THANK
YOU NEXT WEEK- GOOD MORNING
MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS CANDICE CHUNG
AND I'M LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE
WITH THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY
GENERAL ROB BONTA. WHO IS
PLEASED TO CO SPONSOR THIS BILL
WITH GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM. ON
BEHALF OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
I'D LIKE TO THINK SENATOR
PORTANTINO FOR HIS CONTINUED
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. EVER
OFFERING THIS BILL. AND I
ENTITLED TO BUT INTER COLLEAGUES
CENTER BRADFORD IN SENATOR
SKINNER FOR CO AUTHORING THIS
MEASURE. AS MENTIONED BY THE
SENATOR THIS BILL IS CRITICAL TO
STRENGTHENING CALIFORNIA'S
CONCEALED CARRY WEAPON LAWS IN
RESPONSE TO THE SUPREME COURT'S
DECISION NUMBER ONE. BECAUSE OF
THE BROWN DECISION CURRENTLY
APPLICANTS NEED ONLY SHOW THAT
THEY ARE NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW
FROM POSSESSING A GUN. AND OF
GOOD MORAL CHARACTER. WHICH IS
DEFINED BY THE INDIVIDUAL
LICENSING AUTHORITIES. INSTEAD
SB TWO WILL CREATE A UNIFORM
STATEWIDE STANDARD THAT USES
CLEAR OBJECTIVE CRITERIA TO
ASSESS APPLICANTS TO ENSURE THAT
CONCEALED CARRY WEAPONS PERMITS.
ARE NOT ISSUED TO DANGEROUS
INDIVIDUALS. JUST AS IMPORTANT
IT SETS OUT GUN FREE ZONES TO
ALLOW CALIFORNIANS TOGETHER
LEARN AND WORSHIP IN SAFETY.
YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE ME I SHOULD
NOT BE AFRAID TO GO TO A LOCAL
MALL. WELL THE BREWING DECISION
CHANGED OUR UNDERSTANDING OF
CONSTITUTIONAL REGULATION IN
THIS SPACE IT ALSO AFFIRMED THE
STATE'S RIGHT. TO PROHIBIT
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT LAW
ABIDING RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS
FROM CARRYING FIREARMS IN
PUBLIC. AND IT ENDORSED THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF SENSITIVE
PLACES. WITH SB TWO CALIFORNIA
SEEKS TO SET THE ROADMAP WERE TO
FOLLOW THE ROADMAP SET FORTH BY
THE BERLIN COURT. KEITH EVIDENCE
BASED RESTRICTIONS ENDORSED BY
BROAD AND BASED ON REAL WORLD
DATA. IN CRAFTING THIS BILL. WE
WELCOME IN THE INPUT FROM
STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING LAW
ENFORCEMENT. GUN SAFETY
ADVOCATES HUNTING CLUBS AND
TRANSPORTATION GROUPS. AS A
RESULT OF THOSE MEETINGS WE'VE
REFINED THE LANGUAGE TO CREATE A
WORKABLE SYSTEM THAT STRIKES THE
APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN
RESPECTING LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
RESIDENTS RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR
ARMS. AND THE PUBLIC THE WEIGHTY
INTEREST IN HAVING SAY STREETS.
SINCE BERLIN WITHIN A ROUGHLY
40% INCREASE IN CCW
APPLICATIONS. THAT MEANS MORE
GUNS IN PUBLIC. MORE GUNS IN
YOUR GROCERY STORE YOUR CAFES.
MOVIE THEATERS GAS STATIONS WE
KNOW THAT MORE GUNS IN MORE
PLACES MEANS MORE PEOPLE DIE.
BECAUSE OF FIREARMS. AFFECTED
TWENTY TWENTY TWO STUDY FOUND
THAT THE RIGHT TO CARRY THAT
RIGHT TO CARRY LAWS. INCREASED
FIREARM VIOLENCE BY 29% WITHOUT
SB TWO MORE CALIFORNIA'S WILL
FALL VICTIM TO GUN VIOLENCE THAT
IS SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE.
CALIFORNIA HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST
FIREARM MORTALITY RATES IN THE
COUNTRY. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE
HAVE SOME OF THE STRONGEST GUN
SAFETY LAWS IN THE NATION. SB
TWO IS A COMMON SENSE MEASURE
THAT WILL FURTHER PROTECT
CALIFORNIA'S FROM GUN VIOLENCE.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
AT THIS TIME I'D ALSO LIKE TO
INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE MICHAEL
REDDING. HE WAS A SPECIAL
SPECIAL ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
GENERAL THE HANDLES PUBLIC
SAFETY. ISSUES IT TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL. TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
YOU MIGHT HAVE THANK YOU- LET'S
HEAR FROM ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR POSITION
GOOD MORNING ATTACHMENTS FOR
PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIANS STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING JESSICA
HEY WITH THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND STRONG
SUPPORT. MORNING ROSS GUY FOR
THE GREATER SACRAMENTO URBAN
LEAGUE STRONG SUPPORT. SANDRA
WHAT I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION FROM FOLSOM IN
STRONG SUPPORT. ALEX NAVARRO
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION IN STRONG SUPPORT. I'M
JULIE CHAPMAN A VOLUNTEER WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION IS STRONG
SUPPORT. WHERE TOP ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO SAN DIEGO
MAYOR TODD GLORIA IN SUPPORT.
MICHAEL RATIGAN I'M YOU HAVE TO
BOARD SHOULD. SANTA CLARA COUNTY
AND FOR. THANK YOU. ALEXIS
RODRIGUEZ TO THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY
SUPPORT WITNESSES LEFT IN THE
ROOM THAT HAS NOT. SPOKEN
ALREADY. OUR RATE WE WILL MOVE
ON TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES. THIS
IS FOR LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. TOTAL
WATERMARKING COMMITTEE FOR TWO
PEOPLE. TWO TWO. MISTER YEAH
EACH FOR BUT ONLY TO UNDERSTOOD
THE MANAGER MEMBERS COURSE IT'LL
BE HAVE THE CAL STATE SHERIFFS
OF WAS HERE AN OPPOSITE TO THE
BILL. WE APPRECIATE THE AND WHO
HAVE- LISTEN TO US AND OUR
CONCERNS UNFORTUNATELY THIS BILL
IMPACTS OF POPULATION THAT
DOESN'T COMMIT GUN CRIMES.
ADDRESSING BREWING IN THIS WAY
IS UNNECESSARILY COMPLICATED AND
OVERLY BURDENSOME IT WILL CREATE
UNNECESSARY WORKLOAD. FOR THE
COURTS IN TERMS OF THE APPEALS
PROCESS- AND GIVEN WHAT WE'VE
SEEN IN OTHER STATES IS LIKELY
TO BE CHALLENGED IN PROBABLY
OVERTURNED IN WHOLE OR IN PART.
OPPER CHOOSING AN APPROACH HERE-
THAT'S BEEN LIKELY TO FULLY
SURVIVE A LEGAL CHALLENGE AND IS
UNLIKELY TO STOP GUN VIOLENCE SO
WHY ARE WE PROCEEDING DOWN THIS
ROAD WITH THAT- LIKELIHOOD IN
MIND. THIS BILL DISALLOWS
RECORDING JOINT OWNERSHIP OF A
FIREARM- AND REQUIRES A PERSON
TO BE RECORDED UNDER THE FARM TO
LIST ON THEIR CCW THAT MEANS A
COUPLE WHO RESIDE TOGETHER AND
JOINTLY OWN A FIREARM BOTH
CANNOT CARRY THAT FIREARM EVEN
IF IT'S LAWFULLY AND JOINTLY
OWNED. THEY BOTH CAN'T LIST ON
THEIR CCW THIS WILL ENCOURAGE
THE ACQUISITION. OF MORE FIRE
ARMS- I JUST NEED TO POINT OUT
THAT A PERSON WHO INTEND TO
COMMIT GUN CRIME OR WHO DOESN'T
INTEND TO COMMIT A CRIME CRIME
BUT MAKES AN IMPULSIVE OR
RATIONAL DECISION OR HAS A
BREAK- THAT PERSON IS NOT GOING
TO SEEK A CCW. THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO USE THAT TO HELP FACILITATE
THEIR GUN CRIME THESE
RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT KEEP ANY
SUCH PERSON FROM CARRYING A
FIREARM IN PUBLIC. FOR THOSE
REASONS THAT WE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE THE BILL THANK YOU. THE
MANAGER MEMBERS OF SAMPER'S-
REPRESENTING GUN WAS CALIFORNIA.
AND AUTHORIZES TO THE REPRESENT
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AS WELL. WE
APPRECIATE THAT THE AUTHOR
INCLUDES SEVERABILITY CLAUSES IN
THIS BILL THAT IS OFTEN TIMES
SINCE MY WORK IN THE CAPITAL.
SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY IS A-
SUSPICION ON THE AUTHOR'S PART
THAT. THERE ARE PROBABLY
UNCONSTITUTIONAL PORTIONS OF
THIS BILL AND I'M HERE TO TELL
YOU THAT THERE ARE. SAVE THE
TIME SAVE THE EFFORT. WHAT BRUIN
SAID. IS THAT. ANY GUN CONTROL
LAWS BEING CONSIDERED. HAS TO
BE. FIRST OF ALL IT SAID THAT
THIS IS NOT A HANDCUFFED TO THE
GOVERNMENT WITH REGARDS TO
REGULATING FIREARMS. IT ALSO
SAID IT'S NOT A BLANK CHECK. AND
THEN THE COURT SAID HERE IS YOUR
STANDARD. WHATEVER YOU WERE
CONSIDERING. IF IT HAS AN
ANALOG. TO SEVENTEEN NINETY ONE.
THEN IT CAN BE CONSIDERED IF IT
DOESN'T BY DEFINITION IT IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL THE- IN THE
SPECIFICALLY WINTER DIÆN AND
DISCUSSED ABOUT SENSITIVE PLACES
IN THE EXPANSION IN ON CHURCHES
AND THINGS EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE
COLONIES AT THE TIME WHO
RATIFIED THE- CONSTITUTION THAT
SAID IF YOU DIDN'T BRING A GUN
AND AMMO TWO. BOOKS TO CHURCH
YOU WILL BE FINE TWO POUNDS OF
TOBACCO WHICH WAS AN ENORMOUS
FINE. SO YEAH YOU KNOW THIS WAS
TRULY EFFORT TO GET AROUND- NEW
YORK STATE RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION VERSUS BROUGH AND I
THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH THE ACCOUNT
CONCEALED CARRY WEAPONS PERMIT-
IMPROVEMENT ACT FROM NEW YORK
WHICH IS HIGHLY ANALOGOUS TO
THIS. PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
IT IS BEING- GOING DOWN IN
FLAMES BEFORE THE COURTS THERE.
AND WE THINK THAT THIS WILL ALSO
SOULS SAVE US ALL A LOT OF TIMES
IN TAXPAYERS MONEY. THIS LAW
WILL NEVER GOING TO AFFECT IT
WILL BE CHALLENGED IN THE COURTS
AND WILL BE FOUND. TO BE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. NOT IN PART
BUT IN WHOLE SOUL THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME APPRECIATE IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE HERE.
THANK YOU WILL NOW HEAR FROM
OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES HERE
IN THE ROOM STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND WHERE YOU
STAND. GOOD MORNING JULIUS
IMMIGRATION LIEUTENANT WITH THE
SAN MEDINA COUNTY APART AND I.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
LIEUTENANT WILLIAM L. RIVERSIDE
SURE SUBSTANCE ON BEHALF OF THE
SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CHAD BIANCO
IN OPPOSITION. VENTURE MEMBERS
RANGE PERRY WITH REDUCE.
SUPPOSED TO AND CONTINUE WERE
WITH THE. THE REQUESTED DIRECTOR
FOR THE NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION ALSO HERE FOR
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU KNOW DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER OPPOSITION. SUPPORT I.
ALREADY PASSED- SO THANK YOU WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE OR VEST PLEASE
JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION.
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
WE WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU AND WE
FIRST GOT THE LINE NUMBER THIRTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. DELETED
SO LEADS SHOT HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND NEXT WILL
BE GOING TO LINE TWENTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MALAYSIAN WITH
THE CALIFORNIA CATHOLIC
CONFERENCE AND GRATEFUL FOR
COMMITTEE AUTHOR AND IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AND NEXT TO THE LINE
FORTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. BY
FORTY EIGHT YOU ARE OPEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MONEY BUT
WITHIN THE WITH NATIONAL
SHOOTING SPORTS FOUNDATION
DIRECTOR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS IN
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU AND
ALL MASKELYNE THIRTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
CARLENE ELLIS I REMEMBER AT THE
CAL RIGHT ONE PISTOL. THE
DEMOCRATS. AND THE ARE A IN
STRONG OFF THE- THANK. AN
EXCELLENT ONLINE THIRTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI GOOD MORNING
AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO- CALLING MY NAME
IS DARREN BACK WHILE I'M A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION INCOME
EARNERS A CALIFORNIA. AND
CALLING TO VOICE MY STRONG
OPPOSITION DESTITUTE. AN
EXCELLENT LINE NUMBER TWENTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. MINIATURES
TO MCMAHON ON BEECHER OF THE
SOUTH SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND IN OUR EIGHT
MEMBER AND STRONG OPPOSITION.
AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER
FORTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MORNING MY NAME IS JAMES O'BRIEN
I'M A LIFELONG CALIFORNIA
RESIDENT MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION NRA LIFE MEMBER IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE SP TWO
THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE NUMBER THIRTY TWO PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING KELLY HIT ON
BEHALF OF SUTTER HEALTH IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU AT NEXT WILL
GO TO LINE FIFTY FOUR PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I REGRET IT UP WITH THE
MORTGAGE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT-
VOICE IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
AND WHAT BETTER NOW FOR THE LINE
THANK YOU AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU TO ALL OUR SUPPORT IN
OPPOSITION WITNESSES WE WILL NOW
BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO
MEMBERS TO ANY OF OUR MEMBERS
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SENATOR- CHOI BOGUE. YES I WILL
- I WANTED TO GIVE AUTHOR NOT.
TO EXPLAIN THE- COURTS AT. NEW
OR UNDERSTANDING OF ON TO- THIS
BILL PASS BECAUSE BE. WITH
REGARDS TO EXPANDING IT- YOU
KNOW TO THE CATEGORY OF AB. YOU
KNOW IN REGARDS TO THE SISTER
PLACES OR SIMPLY ALL PLACES OF
PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION- YOU CARE
TO RESPOND TO THE THOUGHT THAT
THIS COULD BE POTENTIALLY-
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SO ANY LAW
THAT WE PASSED THROUGH THE
LEGISLATURE SOMEONE CAN BRING A
CHALLENGE TO THAT'S NOT A UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCE- THIS BILL WILL
PROBABLY BE CHALLENGED BUT DO WE
BELIEVE IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL
ABSOLUTELY HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE
BROWN DECISION AS THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE SAID. AS A ROAD MAP
TO CREATE A CONSTANTLY TO
CONSTITUTIONALLY SOUND APPROACH
THE SUPREME COURT SAID YOU CAN'T
BE ARBITRARY SO THIS BILL IS NOT
ARBITRARY IT'S CREATING CONCRETE
CRITERIA OF WHO SHOULD AND
SHOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE TO GET
THIS RESPONSIBILITY OF HAVING A
CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT THAT'S
CONSISTENT WITH THE SUPREME
COURT. SUPREME COURT SAID YOU
CAN HAVE PROHIBITED PLACES THIS
BILL HAS PROHIBITED PLACES THAT
MAKES SENSE WE HAVE LOOKED AT
THE RECENT COURT DECISIONS THE
TOURNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS
LOOKED AT THOSE DECISIONS WE
BELIEVE AT THE END OF THE DAY
THIS BILL WILL BE CONSTITUTIONAL
THERE'S A SPECIFIC. POINT THAT
YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT I DO
HAVE THE- J. HERE WHO CAN ANSWER
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BUT TO THE
NATURE OF THIS PROPOSAL WE
BELIEVE IT'S- NOT GOING TO STAND
UP AND FRANKLY THAT'S IMPORTANT
YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE JUST TO
SAY WE WANT TO DO THIS WE'RE
HERE TO MAKE CALIFORNIA SAFER.
AND WE KNOW STATISTICALLY THAT
THIS WILL MAKE CALIFORNIA SAFER
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
INTERESTED IN DOING AND WE'RE
USING GROWN AS A ROAD MAP TO DO
IT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR
YOU WAS WITH REGARD TO THE C. C.
W.'S DO YOU BELIEVE AND IT IS
VERY DATA SHOWING THAT- THERE'S
A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE.
COMMITTED MURDERS OR MASS
MURDERS THAT KERRY C. C. W.'S-
IN COMPARISON TO SOMEONE WHO
DOES NOT HAVE. THE CCW. TO THE
DATA SHOWS THAT THE MORE
PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS THAT
ARE READILY AVAILABLE TO THE
GENERAL PUBLIC THE MORE
CONCENTRATION OF WEAPONS. THE
MORE CHANCES OF VIOLENCE. OCCURS
THAT'S STATE WIDE THAT'S NAY IT
NATIONWIDE SO. STATES THAT HAVE
LACKS CCW. PERMITTING ISSUE
STATES THAT ALLOW MORE OPEN
CARRY STATES THAT HAVE A MORE
PROLIFERATION. OF WEAPONS IN
THEIR POSSESSION HAVE MORE
VIOLENCE IN THOSE STATES PER
CAPITA THAN CALIFORNIA WHICH HAS
STRICTER RULES. SO YES WE
BELIEVE THAT BY RESTRICTING. CCW
STILL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AND
HAVING PROHIBITED PLACES WE ARE
GOING TO CUT DOWN. ON THE NUMBER
OF SHOOTINGS IN OUR STATE. AND
THE STATISTICS SHOW THAT THAT'S
AN AGGREGATE. WHAT SPECIFICALLY
WITH. INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE C. C.
W.'S DO WE HAVE ANY DATA THE
SPECIFICALLY SHOWS HERE THERE'S
THERE IS DATA TO SUGGEST THAT
THE MORE FIREARMS IN THOSE HOMES
THE MORE WORK THAT HOMES HAVE
WEAPONS IN THEM THE MORE
SUICIDES THE MORE UNINTENDED
VIOLENCE YES. THAT IS THAT IS A-
VALID STATISTICAL ANALYSIS TO
MAKE ON THE PROLIFERATION OF
WEAPONS THE CCW HOLDERS IN THIS
PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS IN THE
HOUSEHOLD SO THE MORE WEAPONS
YOU PUT IN. PRIVATE HANDS THE
MORE VIOLENCE WE HAVE IN
CALIFORNIA. SENATOR SKINNER.
THANK YOU AND MENTOR THANK YOU
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ASSEMBLY MEMBER
. OUR DAYS TOGETHER WE WERE
THERE THANK YOU SENATOR FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL. ON MY DRIVE
TO THE CAPITOL YESTERDAY I WAS
LISTENING TO AN NPR REPORT. THAT
BASICALLY- DETAILED THE RESEARCH
IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THOSE
STATES WITH THE OPEN CARRY LAWS
HAVE MUCH HIGHER GUN VIOLENCE
INCIDENTS THAN THOSE STATES
WITHOUT. NOW THIS BILL IS VERY
IMPORTANT AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR BRING IT TO US
BECAUSE IT ADDRESSES A SITUATION
WHERE CALIFORNIA IN MY OPINION
HAD A VERY GOOD LAW BUT A RECENT
COURT RULING. HAS RAISE SOME
ISSUES AROUND IN OUR ABILITY TO
ENFORCE IT AND SO I GREATLY
APPRECIATE HOW THOUGHTFULLY
CONSTRUCTED THIS BILL IS TO
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND STILL
GIVE US IN CALIFORNIA. THE BEST
PROTECTIONS WE CAN TO MINIMISE
GUN VIOLENCE AND- I THINK- WILD
PEOPLE HAVE VARYING OPINIONS ON-
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT SHOULD- WHAT
SHOULD BE. APPROPRIATE IN THESE
ISSUES OF FIRE ARMS. I WOULD
HOPE THAT THERE IS NO ONE THAT
WANTS TO SEE MORE GUN VIOLENCE
IN OUR STATE AND BECAUSE THE
DATA IT IS CLEAR. THAT
UNRESTRICTED OPEN CARRY IS MORE
GUN VIOLENCE THIS IS ESSENTIAL
AND THAT TIME THAT'S APPROPRIATE
IF AND IF IT'S APPROPRIATE NOW I
WILL MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH ANY OTHER
SENATOR LIKE TO SPEAK. SEEING
NONE- SENATOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE I WOULD THINK YOU ARE
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND I DO
WANT TO THANK THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL AND THE GOVERNOR FOR
BEING. THE SPONSORS OF THIS
LEGISLATION- I JUST YOU KNOW HOW
MANY MORE TRAGEDIES. MANY MORE
CHILDREN. HOW MANY MORE SCHOOLS
HOW MANY MORE TEACHERS HOW MANY
MORE. MOVIE THEATERS MALLS. HOW
MANY MORE. DO WE AS A SOCIETY.
IN BRACE. EACH OTHER AND SAY
ENOUGH- THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR CALIFORNIA. TO BE SAFER FROM
GUN VIOLENCE. AND THE IDEA THAT
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR
MORE GUNS. AS SOME HOW. A VALID
TOOL TO MAKE CALIFORNIA SAFER
WHEN WE KNOW IT'S THE OPPOSITE.
MORE GUNS LEADS TO MORE VIOLENCE
NOT LESS. ARMING PEOPLE. LEADS
TO MORE CONFRONTATION NOT LESS.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE LESS DEATH ON
OUR SCHOOL CAMPUSES WE NEED TO
HAVE LESS GUNS IN CIRCULATION.
IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. AND THE
STATES THAT ALLOW IT HAVE MORE
GUN VIOLENCE IN THE STATES THAT
DON'T. NOW FRANKLY THEY SHOULD
BE ADDRESSED ON A NATIONAL LEVEL
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT- OUR
NEIGHBORING STATES ARE JUST AS
STRONG IN THEIR ADVOCACY AS WE
ARE BECAUSE THEM COLLECTIVELY AS
A SOCIETY WILL BE SAFER. BUT WE
CAN'T MAKE NEVADA OR ARIZONA DO
WHAT THEY SHOULD DO BUT WE
CERTAINLY CAN MAKE CALIFORNIA DO
WHAT IT MUST DO. AND THAT'S WHY
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT THIS
BILL ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK
BECAUSE WE WANT CALIFORNIANS TO
BE SAFER. AND AS ME POINTED OUT
THIS IS A UNIQUELY AMERICAN
PROBLEM OTHER STATES DON'T HAVE
THIS ISSUE. AND FRANKLY IT'S
BECAUSE OTHER STATES DON'T ALLOW
THE PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS
THAT THE UNITED STATES DICE. AND
SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO
EMBRACE PUBLIC SAFETY. OUR
CHILDREN. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
HAS TO RESPOND TO THESE
TRAGEDIES AND- CLEAN UP THESE
TRAGEDIES AND LOOK AT THE FACES
OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN THEIR
CHILDREN. ARE SHOT IN SCHOOLS
FOR WANTED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
DISPUTE RISES TO THIS LEVEL. WE
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT WE
SHOULD TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I
PUBLIC. THANK YOU- SO THIS BILL
HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
SKINNER- IF WE CAN CAN HAVE A
ROLL CALL PLEASE. SB TWO MOST IS
THE PAST CREATIONS BEHIND HI BOB
HI WHICH ABOVE NO NO BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE SKINNER AYE SKINNER
AYE WIENER. WE WILL HOLD THE
ROLE OPEN THANK YOU THANK YOU
SENATOR. KILLED. SO WE HAVE
ANOTHER BILL- THAT IS GONNA BE
PRESENTED BY SENATOR PORTANTINO
AS WELL SB THREE SIXTY EIGHT
SENATOR THE FLOOR IS YOURS THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR- AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS HAVE BEGIN BY ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
OUTLINED IN THE ANALYSIS AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFF. FOR WORKING AT NINE I
ALSO WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO
MY STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE STAFF FOR WORKING ON S.
B. TWO WAS WELL- IT IS A BIG
BILL AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
WORK SO THANK YOU TO MY TEAM
INTO THE DOJ. AND AGAIN ONE ECHO
THEIR PRECISION AS THEY WORK ON.
SB THREE SIXTY EIGHT WHICH IS A
COMPREHENSIVE FIREARM SAFETY
PACKAGE THAT WOULD EXPAND OUR
PRUDENT LAWS- IT PROHIBITS
FIREARMS STORES AND DEALERS FROM
RAFFLING OFF INVENTORY ITEMS
ACCESSORIES AND FIREARMS. TO IT
UP ANYONE WHETHER BE PURCHASED
THROUGH THE PURCHASE A RAFFLE
TICKETS AND THIS BECAME- TO MY
ATTENTION BECAUSE IN BURBANK-
ONE OF MY CITIES THEY WERE DOING
A PROTEST AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE.
ON ONE BLOCK AND ONE OF THE GUN
STORES DECIDED TO DO A RAFFLE
THAT SAME DAY ACROSS THE STREET.
TO YOU KNOW GIVE OFF THINGS TO
BRING IN NEW CUSTOMERS A SORT OF
A- SIDE OF THE STREET I WAS SORT
OF FIGHT. WITH SORT OF ALARM
THAT YOU COULD USE RAFFLES TO
ENTICE MORE PEOPLE TO BUY MORE
GUNS JUST DOESN'T SEEM AGAIN
MORE GUNS MEANS MORE TASK
THEMSELVES WITH THE BODY SHOULD
NOT BE AN- ENCOURAGING- MORE
DEATH. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE
PROVISIONS. AND ALSO- EXPANDS
LAWS AROUND A WHO IN A CRISIS OR
HAVING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS- FOLKS
WHO CAN TURN THEIR WEAPONS BACK
OVER TO THE STORE SO. LET'S YOU
KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF
YOUR GUN YOU SHOULD WE SHOULD
FORCE THE STORES TO HAVE SKIN IN
THE GAME TO MAKE SOCIETY A
LITTLE BIT SAFER. BY TAKING AND
STORING THOSE FIREARMS FROM
FOLKS WHO. WANT TO TURN THEM IN
IT ALSO EXTENDS THE TEN YEAR
PROHIBITION ON OWNING A FIREARM
TO ME IT SEEMS SORT OF
ILLOGICAL. THAT WE WOULD JUST
HAVE A DATE DETERMINE WHETHER
SOMEBODY IS A THREAT TO SOCIETY
SO AFTER TEN YEARS. THEY WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY GET THEIR GUN
RIGHTS BACK- THEY STILL MAY HAVE
THE SAME. ISSUES THAT CAUSE THEM
TO BE PROHIBITED TEN YEARS
EARLIER SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME
SYSTEM. TO EVALUATE WHETHER
SOMEBODY GETS THEIR GUN RIGHTS
BACK AND SO- WE THINK IT'S A-
PRUDENT STEP TO SORT OF. PUT GUN
STORES IN THE GAME OF TRYING TO
MAKE- MAKE THE MORE RESPONSIBLE.
WE THANK YOU ALLOWING- A BREATH
AT THE TEN YEAR POINT TO MAKE
SURE SOMEBODY. IS IN UP STANDING
CITIZEN AT THAT POINT AND SHOULD
GET THEIR GUN RIGHTS BACK MAKES
SENSE AND SO. WITH ME I HAVE
KITTENS KIM STONE FROM THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION. AND TIFFANY FROM
THE CALIFORNIA FEDERATION OF
TEACHERS WHO WILL OFFER.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. JERRY
MEMBERS THANK YOU TO THE FOR
LEADERS KIM. OF AND ON THE COW.
DISTRICT ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT-
JUST WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF
BRIEF STATISTICS FROM. E. THE
EDUCATIONAL FUND TO STOP GUN
VIOLENCE SUICIDES COMPRISE 52%
OF THE FIREARM DEATHS IN
CALIFORNIA. ONE THIRD OF
CALIFORNIA. A SUICIDES ARE BY
GUN VIOLENCE. PROXIMALLY SIXTEEN
HUNDRED SUICIDE GUN DEATHS A
YEAR EVERY YEAR IN CALIFORNIA
THAT WAS HAS HELD STEADY FROM
TWENTY TEN TO TWENTY NINETEEN.
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS REMOVING
GUNS FROM PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT
HAVE THEM WHETHER THAT BE PEOPLE
WHO IF USED GUNS FOR VIOLENCE
AGAINST. OTHERS OR BECAUSE THEY
ARE AT RISK FOR USING- THAT GUN
TO HURT THEMSELVES OR OTHERS
THIS BILL FACILITATES- THAT
COMMONSENSE REMOVAL- IN MANY
CASES EITHER WHAT IF THAT
REMOVAL IS BECAUSE THE PERSON
VOLUNTARILY AGREES. THAT THEY
SHOULDN'T HAVE A GUN OR BECAUSE
THEIR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR- HAS LET
THAT TO HAPPEN. WE SUPPORT THE
BILL IN OUR DRIVE. THANK YOU. BY
TIFFANY MARC WITH FTA UNION OF
CLASSIFIED FOR. AND WE WANT TO
ALSO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR THIS
THOUGHTFUL BILL TO REMOVE GUNS
FROM FOLKS WHO MAY NOT HAVE
WANTED THEM BUT JUST ONE THEM IN
A RAFFLE AND- ADDITIONALLY- FIND
OF SAFE WAY TO STORE GUNS WHEN
THEY'RE NOT. IN THE MINDSET OF
REALLY WANTING TO HAVE THEM
AROUND THEM WE SEEM RESEARCH
ACROSS THIS OF. COUNTRY AND THIS
WORLD THAT INDICATES THAT WHEN
FOLKS HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE
NOT HAVE GUNS THAT SUICIDE
NUMBERS ARE REDUCED AND SO FOR
THOSE REASONS WERE PROUD TO
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. I DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES HERE
IN THIS ROOM. SEEING NONE- WE
WILL MOVE TO OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION
I WITNESSES IN THIS ROOM ARE
RIGHT WE WILL MOVE ON- MORE
SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE
INDIVIDUALS THAT. ARE WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU'D PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL WE WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU
AND THAT ONCE AGAIN SAY WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AND THE
FIRST ONE ON THE LINE FORTY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
THE MIRACLE YOUR WATCH I'M A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION THE
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION GUN
OWNERS OF CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS
OF AMERICA. THE NINETEENTH TO
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL
THANK YOU. SNAPS WE'LL GO TO
LINE NUMBER FIFTEEN ONE FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
MARGARET MY NAME IS MARCO
BENNETT AND THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR AND I AM ALSO
REPRESENTING WOMEN AGAINST GUN
VIOLENCE WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB. THREE SIXTY
EIGHT. HELLO LINE SIXTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY CRISTINA FROM
ALL NUMBER OF GUN OWNERS OF
AMERICA C. R. P. CALIFORNIA
RIGHT THIS. STRONGLY ENOUGH TO
SB SIX EIGHT THANK YOU. LET A
SIXTY. PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME
JAMES A BROW I'M ALL CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS MEMBER OF THE-
LIFELINE FOR SO. NRA LIFE MEMBER
STRONG OF THIS THREE SIX EIGHT
THANK YOU. NEXT LINE OF FORTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
MONEY MICHAEL COMMITTEE
CONTEMPLATION NASH SPORTS
FOUNDATION CHRISTMAS FOR
AMERICA'S GOT MANY WE RANGES IN
STRONG UP THANK YOU. IT WILL GO
TO LINE FIVE PLEASE AHEAD. HI
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS DURING
THE AND OF THE RIFLE AND PUT
ASSOCIATION AND CANNOT RESIST.
AND I'M IN UP TO THREE TWO EIGHT
THANK YOU FOR. AND WE WILL DRAW
THE LINE SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU CARLENE ELLIS AS A
MEMBER OF THE RIGHT. SAN DIEGO
CALIFORNIA ME AND I A. IN TO
DRAW UP AT THIS.
OPPOSITION. AND WILL MOVE TO
LINE SIXTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. COOL
MARC RASMUSSEN I'M RETIRED
CALIFORNIA'S STRONGLY OPPOSES
LEGISLATION. AND WE'LL GO TO
LINE FIFTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD
. TURNER I'M A MEMBER OF THE
NATIONAL NETWORK A FAITH
COMMUNITIES AND THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION I
STRONGLY OPPOSES THE LEGISLATION
THANK YOU. AND WE WILL GO TO
LINE SIXTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. ARMENIANS WERE IN THE WITH THE
FULL SINCE AFTER THE CALIFORNIA
RIGHT WING TO ASSOCIATION GUN
OWNERS A CALIFORNIA AND ARE IN
STRONG OPPOSITION THANK YOU. AND
MEN OF CARE WE HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS ON THE POST THANK YOU
TO ALL OUR SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WILL NOW BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS
MEMBERS DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
OR CONCERNS OR COMMENTS. SENATOR
CHUBA. REALLY THE ONLY QUESTIONS
. OKAY AND I GUESS THIS WOULD
NOT BE FOR YOU CENTER PORTANTINO
BUT MORE FOR ANYONE THAT IS
OPPOSING THE SALE. AND I HAVE
HERE THAT THERE'S A CONCERN
WHETHER IT ON WHETHER OR NOT HE
WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BE
RECEIVING. AND THESE- THESE
GUNS. A RATHER THAN THE- THE
DEALERS COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE
BIT TO THAT. THANK YOU SENATOR
SAMPRAS REPRESENTING GUN WAS
CALIFORNIA CALIFORNIA RIFLE
PISTOL ASSOCIATION FIRST OF ALL
. THE LAWFUL COMMERCE SO
FIREARMS A LAWFUL THING AND
THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT IT
THEY FOLLOW A PROCESS AND NOW
FOR THE STATE TO MANDATE. THAT
THEY ACCEPT FIREARMS FROM PEOPLE
WHO ADMIT TO THEMSELVES THAT
THEY ARE IN CRISIS. IS WHOLLY
UNACCEPTABLE FOR PRIVATE
BUSINESSES IF THEY DON'T HAVE
CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL GUNS FOR
STORAGE THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF
THE LAW. BAKER THE LAW DOESN'T
SAY YOU MAY IT SAYS YOU SHALL.
KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY'S IN CRISIS
DON'T YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE A
LITTLE MORE WISE FOR THEM TO
MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND COME TO
THE PARK TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WHO CAN SAFELY HANDLE
MAKE SURE THAT ALL SECURITY IS
TAKEN CARE OF. INSTEAD OF
PUTTING THAT- INEQUITY ON ON A
PRIVATE BUSINESS PERSON WHICH IS
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO FORCE
THEM. IT IS NOT THE LAWFUL
DEALERS FAULTS THAT PEOPLE USE
GUNS. FOR CRIME OR FOR SUICIDES
AND TO MAKE THEM CULPABLE.
WITHOUT TRIAL. JUST GOES AGAINST
OUR SYSTEM I THINK THE USE THANK
YOU DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I DO- SO
SENATE PROCEDURE WOULD YOU. CARE
TO RESPOND TO THAT TO THAT TO
THOSE COMMENTS ABSOLUTELY-
FRANKLY THE IDEA THAT THAT GUN
OWNERS. WHO IS SUFFERING FROM.
SOME INTERNAL TRAUMA. WANTS TO
TURN IN THEIR WEAPONS I BELIEVE
THEY'LL BE MORE COMFORTABLE
BRING IT TO THE CARD TO THE TO
THE GUN DEALER. THEN THE POLICE
STATION- AND THAT'S THE POINT IS
IF THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT.
GIVING UP THEIR WEAPONS. LET'S
HELP THEM DO IT AND FRANKLY I
DON'T. SHED A TEAR FOR THE- GUN
STORE HAVING TO HAVE SOME
RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS.
SITUATION AT ALL THEY HAVE THE
STORAGE CAPACITY THERE AFTER ALL
. SELLING WEAPONS THAT THEY
PROPERLY. STORING THEIR STUFF IN
THEIR IN THEIR STORES SO. I
DON'T SEE IT AS A HARDSHIP BY
SEAT AS A PRUDENT STEP TO LET
SOMEBODY VOLUNTARILY TURNED BACK
THEIR WEAPONS. AND LEFT THE
PLACE THEY BOUGHT IT FROM HOLD
IT. TO ME MAKES SENSE AND SHOULD
BE ENCOURAGED NOT DISCOURAGED.
THANK YOU SENATOR. AN ADDITIONAL
COURSE YES I DO I WANT TO FINISH
MY LINE OF THOUGHT ON THE ON ON
THE ON THE ON THE- FOR THE
COMMENTS AND THE RESPONSE. SO
AND I AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR
POINT- WITH REGARDS THEY ALSO
UNDERSTAND THE POINT THAT THE
GENTLEMAN IS MAKING WITH REGARDS
TO- HAVING. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AB. SPACE EXCEPT THESE THESE
GUNS IS THERE ANYTHING CURRENTLY
IN LAW THAT PROHIBITS. DEALERS
FROM ACCEPTING GUNS THAT ARE
WANT TO BE GIVEN OUT BY PEOPLE
WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES OR ANYTHING IN
THERE THAT SAYS THEY CANNOT. I
DO NOT BELIEVE THEY'RE
PROHIBITED FROM DOING IT BUT
THIS MEANS THAT THEY MUST DO IT.
OKAY SO THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP
SOMEBODY FROM GOING DOWN TO THE
SHERIFF'S STATION IN TURNING IN
THEIR WEAPON I. DON'T HAVE THAT
ABILITY TO DO IT NOW THE POINT
OF THIS IS I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE
MORE COMFORTABLE. GOING TO A
PLACE THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE
ENOUGH TO PURCHASE THE WEAPON
FROM- AND IF THEY WANT TO GIVE
IT UP LET THEM GIVE IT UP. SO
THERE'S NOTHING INSIDE YOU RIGHT
NOW THE PROHIBITS THEM FROM
DOING THAT ALREADY. NUMBER TWO-
THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT. BY MAKING
THIS- MANDATE A MANDATE TO THE
FOR THE DEALERS. DOES IT BRING-
LIABILITY TO THE DEALERS IN ANY
SHAPE OR FORM NO MORE SO THAN
THEM HAVING WEAPONS ON PREMISES
CURRENTLY GIVES SOME LIABILITY.
DOES NOT CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL
BURDEN ON THEM. FROM A LIABILITY
DAY IF THEY HAVE THEIR THERE
THEY'RE SELLING WEAPONS AT THAT
PLACE OF BUSINESS THAT'S WHAT
THEY DO. BUT WITH REGARDS TO THE
SAFETY OF THE OF THE INDIVIDUAL
THEY'RE CHARGED WITH KEEPING
THEIR WEAPON SAFE ON PREMISES
SAYS THEY ARE. CURRENTLY DOING
THEIR BUSINESS. IF THEY LET
THEIR WEAPONS GOAL WITHOUT
HAVING THE PROPER DISPENSED FULL
YOU KNOW PAPERWORK THEY'RE
LIABLE. YOU KNOW THIS DOESN'T
CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL BURDEN OR
LIABILITY ON THE OTHER THAN THE
CAPACITY TO STORE. OKAY THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SENATOR
SKINNER. I MOVE THE BILL. THANK
YOU NO OTHER COMMENTS ALL RIGHT
SENATOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
. IF WE PREVENT ONE SUICIDE.
THROUGH THIS BILL. THE BILL IS
WORTH IT. I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING
TO PREVENT MORE THAN ONE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
BEING KEOGH MOTION HAS BEEN MADE
BY SENATOR SKINNER. CAN WE CALL
ROLE PLEASE. SB THREE SIXTY
EIGHT MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR WILL HOP ON HOP I TO
ABOUT. BRADFORD FOR AYE SKINNER
AYE SKINNER AYE WIENER. HOLD THE
ROLE OF. OUT WE WILL HOLD THE
ROLE OPEN THANK YOU SENATOR.
WE HAVE A NUMBER. SENATOR. YEAH
WE DO A MOTION ON THE- WE DO
HAVE A MOTION ON CONSENT ITEMS
REMOVED. THANK YOU MOTIONS BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR SKINNER. SB
SEVENTY EIGHT TEN SENATOR BOB I
HAVE I OWE TO ABOUT. CONSENT
CALENDAR OKAY HI. WHATEVER I
BRADFORD ON BRADFORD AYE SKINNER
AYE SKINNER AYE WIENER. WILL
HOLD THE ROLE OPEN THANK YOU.
WILL BE WAITING FOR OUR NEXT
PRESENTER THANK YOU GUYS.
ANOTHER LOW. ENGINE SENATOR WHEN
- JONES IS YOUR FIRST JONES IS
FIRST NATIONALLY JONES IS I SAW
SENATOR WIN OUTCOME EARLIER
TODAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT
. ALL OF. NO CENTER JONES.
SENATOR JONES WOULD YOU LIKE TO
PRESENT THANK YOU.
WE NORMALLY HAVE IT HERE BUT
IT'S FINE HERE SINCE YOU HAVE IN
THIS IS STANDING BEHIND HERE- IF
YOU PRESENT THERE THANK YOU.
SENATOR JONES IS PRESENTING SB
THIRTY ONE YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
FIFTY COMMITTEE I AM FIRST
PRESENTING SB THIRTY ONE WHICH
DOES THREE THINGS TO HELP CLEAN
UP CALIFORNIA AND PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY FIRST THIS
BILL PROHIBITS ENCAMPMENTS NEAR
SENSITIVE COMMUNITIES SUCH AS
SCHOOLS PARKS LIBRARIES AND DAY
CARE CENTERS. THIS WILL HELP US
PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE
POPULATION ARE CHILDREN GO TO
SCHOOL AND DAY CARE CENTERS PLAN
PARKS AND GO TO STORY TIME AT
THE LIBRARIES. SECOND THIS BILL
REQUIRES A SEVENTY TWO HOUR
WARNING PERIOD BEFORE ANY KAMAN
SWEEP CAN OCCUR. THIS WILL GIVE
INDIVIDUALS IN HOMELESS
COMMUNITIES A CHANCE TO FIND
ALTERNATIVE LIVING ARRANGEMENTS
AND HOPEFULLY ACCEPT SERVICES
BEFORE THEIR ENCAMPMENT IS
CLEARED. THIRD WHEN CONDUCTING
THE SWEEP THE BILL REQUIRES
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION ABOUT SLEEPING
ALTERNATIVES HOMELESS MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES ARE HOMELESS
SHELTERS IN THE AREA. THIS WILL
HELP CONNECT HOMELESS
INDIVIDUALS TO DESPERATELY
NEEDED SERVICES AS WE
COMPASSIONATELY CLEAR
ENCAMPMENTS. CALIFORNIA HAS
SPENT OVER TWENTY BILLION
DOLLARS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS
ON HOMELESSNESS AND WHAT DO WE
HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT. WE HAVE
ENCAMPMENTS LINING NEARLY EVERY
BLOCK CHILDREN BEING EXPOSED TO
OPEN DRUG USE AND DANGEROUS
ILLICIT ACTIVITY. I'M NOT OKAY
WITH LETTING THIS CONTINUE. OUR
STATE HAS OVER ONE HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY THOUSAND HOMELESS
INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKES UP 30% OF
THE NATION'S HOMELESS
POPULATION. CALIFORNIA ONLY
MAKES UP LESS THAN 12% OF THE US
POPULATION. OUR CURRENT APPROACH
TO HOMELESSNESS IS FAILING AND
CALIFORNIANS ARE SIMPLY TIRED OF
IT WE NEED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW
. EVEN LOS ANGELES GETS IT OUR
PROPOSAL- MODELED AFTER MAJOR
RECENTLY PASSED IN THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES AIMED AT PREVENTING
HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS FROM BEING
NEAR SENSITIVE AREAS WHERE
CHILDREN OFTEN GATHER. CITIES
ACROSS THE STATE INCLUDING
SACRAMENTO AND SAN DIEGO ARE
TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT
SENSITIVE COMMUNITY AREAS FROM
CHEMISTS WE SIMPLY CANNOT
CONTINUE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO LIVE
IN OUR PARKS. OR IN FRONT OF OUR
SCHOOLS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH
AND PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS. IS
INHUMANE AND UNHEALTHY FOR OUR
STATE TO CONTINUE LOOKING THE
OTHER WAY WHEN HOMELESS
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES ARE
LIVING AND BUILDING HOUSING
STRUCTURES ON SIDEWALKS. AND
STREETS. IT'S ALSO UNFAIR AND
OFTEN DANGEROUS FOR THE
NEIGHBORS FAMILIES AND CHILDREN
IN THESE SENSITIVE AREAS. ARE
MAJOR ALONG WITH OTHER
LEGISLATION COMBATING THE
HOMELESS EPIDEMIC WILL HOPEFULLY
WORK TOGETHER TO HELP IN THE
PUBLIC CAMPING IN THESE AREAS
WILL ALSO COMPASSIONATELY
ASSISTING THE HOMELESS WITH
GETTING THE TREATMENT FOR THEIR
MENTAL. AND OR PHYSICAL HEALTH
NEEDS THAT THERE'S STRUGGLING
WITH. AND FINDING A MORE
SUSTAINABLE PLACE FOR THEM TO
LIVE. FINALLY LET ME EMPHASIZE
OUR GOAL IS NOT TO CRIMINALIZE
HOMELESSNESS BUT RATHER TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC CAN HELP LIFT
HOMELESSNESS. HOMELESS
INDIVIDUALS UP OUT OF THE
STREETS THE WRITTEN PASSIONATE
APPROACH. EVERY CALIFORNIAN
DESERVES A PATH OFF THE STREETS
AND SB THIRTY ONE WILL HELP
BEGIN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THAT
IS WHY OVER TWO THOUSAND
CALIFORNIANS HAVE SIGNED THE
PETITION IN SUPPORT IN SUPPORT
OF SB THIRTY ONE I HAVE THE
PETITIONS HERE. ON THE TABLE SO
THAT YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENT AND
THE GRAVITY OF THIS CONCERN FROM
CALIFORNIANS. WE HAVE THESE
PETITIONS AND WE HAVE SENT
COPIES TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.
WE HAVE A STRONG COALITION
SUPPORTERS AND BIPARTISAN CO
AUTHORS. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE
TO INTRODUCE OUR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT FORMER SAN DIEGO MAYOR
KEVIN FAULCONER AND BRETT BOWMAN
HOMELESS ADVOCATES. THANK YOU
HAVE THE FLOOR YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES THANK YOU CENTER THANK
YOU SENATOR JONES AND THANK YOU
TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR
ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY. STRONGLY
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL BECAUSE
IT'S COMMONSENSE. I THINK IT
SHOULD BECOME CALIFORNIA LAW.
THE STREET OF COURSE SHOULD NOT
BE A HOME. AND WHAT THIS BILL
DOES AND I'M GLAD TO CENTER
TALKED ABOUT COMPASSIONATELY
HELPING PEOPLE TO GET OFF THE
STREETS. BECAUSE WE NEED TO
PROTECT. THE CORNERSTONES OF OUR
COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT. OUR SCHOOLS ARE PARKS
LIBRARIES ARE DAY CARE CENTER
FOR OUR FAMILIES FOR OUR KIDS-
AND FOR. ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS
ACROSS CALIFORNIA. AND WHAT THIS
BILL DOES OF COURSE ISN'T HELPS
PEOPLE THE KID OFF THE STREET.
AND I CAN SAY FROM FIRST HAND.
BASED UPON MY EXPERIENCE AS
MAYOR OF SAN DIEGO. WHEN IT
COMES TO PROVIDING THAT
INFORMATION ON WHERE THOSE
SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE. IN SAN
DIEGO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING
DIVISION FOR MORE SAN DIEGO
POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS IN FACT
OUR NUMBER ONE REFERRAL SOURCE
TO HELP FOLKS GET OFF THE
STREETS AND INTO THE SHELTERS
THAT WE HAVE CREATED. THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT STEP. IT'S NOT THE
ONLY STEP THIS IS SENATOR HAS
MENTIONED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
BUT IT'S TIME TO TAKE ACTION.
IT'S TIME TO TAKE ACTION BECAUSE
WE'RE SEEING CITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. GO THROUGH SIMILAR
ORDINANCES AND I THINK IT'S
RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT TO HAVE
A STATE WIDE STANDARD. TO SAY
HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO HELP
PEOPLE. GET OFF THE STREETS
HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO
PROTECT. THE CORNERSTONES OF OUR
COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHY THIS
BILL DOES EXACTLY THAT. AND
HAPPEN TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS LATER ON THANK YOU
CENTER THANK YOU NEXT WEEK-
HELLO. MY NAME IS BRAD BOWMAN
AND I LIVED ON THE STREET FOR
TWO YEARS. I LIVED AS A METH
ADDICT PUSHING A SHOPPING CART
AROUND TODAY I STAND THE SENATE
MINORITY LEADER BRIAN JONES IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL THIRTY
ONE IS A DRESS IS A TWO PRONGED
APPROACH TO THE HOMELESS. MY
TIME IN THE STREET HAS GIVEN ME
SOME INSIGHT TO THE INTO THE
LIVES OF MANY HOMELESS IN THE
REASONS WHY THEY ARE HOMELESS.
SMALL PERCENTAGE OF. PEOPLE
DEALING WITH HOMELESSNESS AND
THERE BECAUSE OF CATASTROPHIC
LIFE EVENTS. JOB LOSS EVICTION
LOSS OF A CONTRIBUTING PARTNER
ITS CENTER. IT WILL BE THE
EASIEST TO HELP. AND MOST WILL
EXERCISE ALL OPTIONS AND AVENUES
OF SERVICES AND- TO. ANY LENGTH
NECESSARY TO GET BACK. TO BEING
A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN DAILY
LIFE. MANY PEOPLE WITH MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES MOST OF THEM ON
DRUGS THESE PEOPLE WILL BE
HARDER TO HELP. AS I WITNESSED.
MOST DO NOT TAKE MAKE ANY
ATTEMPT OF GETTING ANY HELP FOR
THEIR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
THESE PEOPLE NEED HELP NOWADAYS.
AND THEY CAN'T BE FORCED INTO
TREATMENT. AND THERE'S A LARGE
GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE
STREET. WHERE THERE BY CHOICE IT
IS USUALLY CHOICE TO KEEP USING
DRUGS INSTEAD OF BEING
RESPONSIBLE. I FIT ALL THREE
CATEGORIES A CATASTROPHIC LIFE
EVENTS THAT I USED DRUGS. TO
NUMB MYSELF FROM THE PAIN AND
ANGER OF LOSING MY SON. INSTEAD
OF SEEKING COUNSELING FOR MY
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. WE ARE THE
HARDEST TO HELP AND TREAT
SOMEONE NEVER WON OUT WITH SOME
SORT OF CURRENT I GOT TIRED OF
BEING STOPPED AND HASSLED BY THE
POLICE BEING ARRESTED OR FORCED
TIME OUT. LOSING MY STUFF. MY
CART FULL OF WHATEVER I'D
STOLEN. CUT OUT OF A DUMPSTER OR
CUMULATED. MY MOBILE LIFE IN A
CAR. THIRD OF THE WEATHER AND
GUILT I FELT. FROM ABANDONING MY
CHILDREN BEFORE I HAD ANY
INTEREST IN MAKING A CHANGE I
FINALLY GOT MYSELF INTO THE
SALVATION ARMY IN CHICO IN THAT
WORK FOR ME I TOOK
RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS
BUT FOR MANY OUT THERE THAT
FEELING I HOPE IS NOT A LOT.
THAT'S SPORTS SENATOR JONES
MEASURES A PROVIDES
ACCOUNTABILITY AND HOPE FOR MANY
WHO FIND THEMSELVES AT TIMES
FEELING HOPELESSNESS SITUATIONS.
SOMETIMES THAT FIRST STEP
GETTING HELP. IS THE MOST
DIFFICULT. WE ALSO NEED TO
ENSURE THAT ARE SENSITIVE AREAS
IN OUR COMMUNITY SUCH AS SCHOOL
PARKS AND DAY CARE CENTERS ARE
NOT INHABITED BY ENCAMPMENTS.
BUT ALSO THOSE WHO NEED IT GET
CONNECTED TO SERVICES THEY
DESPERATELY NEED. SENATE BILL
THIRTY ONE BOUNCES BOTH OF THOSE
APPROACHES AND OUR LEGISLATORS
PLEASE SUPPORT THIS MEASURE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
HERE IN THIS ROOM DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES. IF YOU ARE A WITNESS
IN SUPPORT PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND
WHETHER YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE HI
GOOD MORNING COULD ONLY ON
BEHALF OF RIVERSIDE SURE SOFT
INSURANCE HAS NOT GONE SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE WILL MOVE
ON TO LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
GOOD MORNING SURE HOBBY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I MITCHELL
PARRIS SAID DIRECTOR OF
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS FOR PUBLIC
ADVOCATES. FIRST I WANTED TO SAY
THAT. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT
PROTECTING CHILDREN WE TALK
ABOUT THESE BILLS BUT THE VAST
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ABUSE
CHILDREN LIVE IN HOUSES. JUST
WANT TO SAY THAT RIGHT AWAY.
MANY THANKS TO THE STAFF AND
ANALYSIS HIGHLIGHTING SB THIRTY
ONE SIGNIFICANT DUE PROCESS
ISSUES AND AT THE MOMENT
APPLICATIONS. RAISING FROM THE
ANALYSIS WERE STAFF RIGHT ON THE
ONE THOUSAND FEET PROHIBITION.
IN A TOWN OR CITY WITH REGULAR
CITY PARKS AND SCHOOLS IS THE
DISTANCE LONG ENOUGH THAT IT
WOULD PROHIBIT A PERSON FROM
SITTING ANYWHERE. THE ACLU
PREPARED SOME MAPS PROVIDE
EXAMPLES OF WHAT A THOUSAND FEET
PROHIBITION WOULD LOOK LIKE IN
SOME CITIES INCLUDING SOME IN
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS DISTRICTS.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. THE
EXAMPLE ENEMIES TODAY THOUGH IS
FROM PETALUMA. WHERE 77% OF THE
LAND IN PETALUMA WOULD BE
PROHIBITED. AND THE REMAINING
23% ALMOST ITS ENTIRETY IS
PRIVATE LAND THERE WOULD BE NO
WHERE LEFT FOR PEOPLE TO BE. SO
WHERE ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GO
. SB THIRTY ONE PERPETUATES A
HARMFUL TREND OF SCAPEGOATING
ARE ON HOUSE NEIGHBORS AND
WASTING PUBLIC RESOURCES ON AN
EQUITABLE AND INEFFECTIVE
ENFORCEMENT DRIVEN HOMELESSNESS
POLICY. CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND
FINES GREAT LEGAL AND FINANCIAL
BARRIERS THAT MAKE IT HARDER FOR
PEOPLE TO ACCESS HOUSING.
SWEEPING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS CRUELLY FROM ONE
PLACE TO ANOTHER DOES NOTHING TO
ADDRESS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM WHICH
IS THEY DON'T HAVE HOUSING. IF
THIS LEGISLATION'S GOAL IS TO
INCREASE SAFETY. THERE ARE MANY
WAYS TO DO THAT TO THE DO NOT
REQUIRE POLICE OR CRIMINAL
PENALTIES SUCH AS SANITATION
SERVICES REGULAR TRASH PICK UP
HOUSING NAVIGATION. AND ONSITE
SUPPORT SERVICES. SB THREE
WANTED NOR IS THE FACT THAT
FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN ARE
HOMELESS. I TAKE THIS VERY
PERSONALLY AS I MYSELF WAS
HOMELESS IN CHILDHOOD WITH MY
FAMILY. LIVING IN A VAN WITH MY
MOTHER AND SIBLINGS WE PARKED AT
MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT NIGHT
DURING THE WEEK AND ON WEEKENDS
WE STAYED AT THE PARK AND WENT
TO THE LIBRARY. ALL PLACES WE
COULD FEEL SAFE THAT DIDN'T COST
MONEY. PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS ARE PEOPLE THEIR
FAMILIES CHILDREN SENIORS
VETERANS LGBTQ DISABLED PEOPLE
THEY'RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY
AND THEY NEED OUR HELP NOT
CRIMINALIZATION. LET'S STOP
TRYING TO REST DEFINING SWEEP
OUR WAY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS AND
INSTEAD FIND REAL SOLUTIONS AT
THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEM. LIKE
TENER PROTECTIONS AFFORDABLE
HOUSING CONSTRUCTION AND THE
COMMUNITY BASED MENTAL HEALTH
AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT WE
ALL KNOW WE NEED. PLEASE VOTE NO
ON SB THIRTY ONE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT LEADS WITH S.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR
COMMITMENT MEMBERS CARLOS
MARQUEZ EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
ACLU CALIFORNIA ACTION. WELL WE
RECOGNIZE THAT THE AUTHORS AIMS
ARE WELL INTENTIONED SB THIRTY
ONE IS DEEPLY MISGUIDED AND WE
DO REMAIN STRENUOUSLY OPPOSED.
SB THIRTY ONE DOES LITTLE TO
ADDRESS THE VACCINE CRISIS
UNFOLDING IN OUR IN HOUSE
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
INSTEAD SB THIRTY ONE HAS CHOSEN
A CRIMINALIZATION RESPONSE OVER
A HEALTH AND SAFETY RESPONSE.
AND WE KNOW THAT THIS WILL
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT BLACK
BROWN AND INDIGENOUS FOLKS- WE
DID- PUBLISHED IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH OUR AFFILIATES- A REPORT IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THAT LOOKED AT
. ALL SEIZE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
THAT RESEMBLE SB THIRTY ONE AND
WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT. THESE
POLICIES ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN
ON HOUSE PEOPLE BEING FORCED-
FORCIBLY BANISHED TO REMOTE
AREAS INCLUDING HARSH DESERT
LANDSCAPES OUTSIDE CITY BORDERS
AND FAR FROM LIFESAVING
RESOURCES SUCH AS WATER FOOD AND
HEALTH CARE- THESE EFFORTS
RESULTED IN THE DISMANTLING OF
EFFORTS BY CIVIL SOCIETY TO
PROVIDE. AID LIKE FOOD WATER
TRASH REMOVAL BLANKETS AND
CLOTHING AND PERHAPS MOST
DISQUIETING IN THE CONTEXT OF
CHILDREN IN MOUNTAIN VIEW A
COMMUNITY OF AND HOUSE PEOPLE
WHICH INCLUDED SEVERAL DOZEN
FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN ENROLLED
IN A MOUNTAIN UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT WERE TARGETED FOR
REMOVAL. BY A LOCAL ORDINANCE
LATER CHALLENGED IN COURT SO
PERHAPS THE MOST PERVERSE
FEATURE AT SB THIRTY ONE IS THAT
IT'S CLOAKED IN EFFORTS TO
PROTECT CHILDREN WHICH IGNORES
THE FACT. THAT ON HOUSE FAMILIES
WITH CHILDREN LIKE THE FAMILIES
IN MOUNTAIN VIEW HAVE CHOSEN TO
LIVE NEAR THE CHILDREN'S SCHOOL
JUST LIKE MOST OTHER PARENTS
WOULD CHOOSE. WHO ARE HOUSED SB
THIRTY ONE WOULD CRIMINALIZE AND
EFFECTIVELY BANISH THESE
FAMILIES TO OUTSKIRTS AND
ACCESSIBLE TO VITAL RESOURCES
AND SERVICES AND FOR THOSE
REASONS WE URGE A NO VOTE ON SB
THIRTY ONE. THANK YOU WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO OTHER- WITNESSES I DO
JUST ONE STATE THAT STATE YOUR
NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND
WHETHER YOU OPPOSE OR SUPPORT
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING EMILY
HARRIS OF ELLA BAKER CENTER. FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS- IN OPPOSITION.
MINUMAN WITH UCLA ALTERNATIVE
BREAKS IN STRONG OPPOSE- JUST
THE BUTTE IN WITH USUALLY ALSO
YOUR BREAKS AND DROPS. LUCY LIU
WITH UCLA ALTERNATIVE BREAKS IN
STRONG OPPOSITION. I WISH THE
CRADLE OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND STRONG
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING
COMMITTEE ADRIANA GRIFFITH WITH
INITIATE JUSTICE AND STRONG
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING LIZZY BEACON LAWYERS
COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN
OPPOSITION. MARCO GEORGE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHERS. SEEING NONE- WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
ARVEST PLEASE YOU STATE YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF THIS BILL WE WILL BEGIN.
THANK YOU JUST AS A REMINDER IF
THEY WOULD LIKE TO VOICE THEIR
COMMON IN SUPPORT OF OPPOSITION
OF SB THIRTY ONE PRESS ONE ZERO.
IN THE FIRST LINE SIXTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MORNING JERRY
NUMBER TINA REGARDLESS ON BEHALF
OF YOU THAT ARE AMONG. AND
BERNARD DINO THREE ALL PROJECT
ARMENIA BREAK THE CYCLE COUNTY
ENDED RIGHTS CALIFORNIA AN
OPPOSITION. NEXT LITTLE LINE THE
FIFTH THREE CLEAN GO AHEAD. THE
MORNING CARE MEMBERS SOME OF
THEM ON BEHALF OF PUBLIC HEALTH
ADVOCATES IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
NEXT ONE LINE AT SEVENTY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
JOHN WILLIAM WITH WE GET PEOPLE
SAN DIEGO STRONG OPPOSITION TO
FILL. AND LOCAL TO LINE SEVENTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING JIM LINDBERG ON BEHALF
OF A FRIEND COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION TO CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION. EDGAR ONLINE SEVENTY
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. CAMP ROCK
INSTABILITY RACKED CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. ADELINE
TWENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE
TWENTY YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YOU
CAN CALL THE DIRECTOR OF THE
PARENTS ABOUT PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE IN OPPOSITION. AND NEXT
IN LINE EIGHTY EIGHT ZERO PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I HAVE ARGUED WITH
INITIATE JUSTICE ACTION IN
OPPOSITION. AND NEXT THE LINE
SEVENTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
AVALLONE EDWARDS THE STARTING
OVER INC IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
AND WITH ONLINE SIXTY EIGHT
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ERIN
THERMOGRAPHY POLICY DIRECTOR
ALLIANCE AND YOU GO IN
OPPOSITION. AND MEDICARE WE HAVE
ONE MORE LINE COMMITTED JUST ONE
MOMENT. THANK YOU. AND WILL THE
LINE EIGHTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. RIGHT HELLO THE FRONT OFFICE.
THANK YOU FOR THEIR- THANK YOU
TO ALL OUR SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WILL NOW BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS
MEMBERS DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS SENATOR- CHOI BOGUE
. WITH YES- SO I MEAN IT'S
INTERESTING BECAUSE I HAVE TO
SAY I AM. I EMPATHIZE WITH BOTH
SIDES THE OPPOSITION AND THE
SUPPORT WITNESSES WITH REGARD TO
THIS TO THIS- ISSUE BECAUSE I
THINK IT'S ALSO A- THE
PERSPECTIVE OF THE VISION OF
WHAT WE SEE WITH ENCAMPMENTS. ON
ONE SIDE WE HAVE- WE HAVE THOSE
THAT SEE THE AD PEOPLE SUFFERING
FROM- OPIOID USE MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES AND SO FORTH IN THE NEED
TO HAVE THEM- RE DIRECTED TO
SERVICES- AND THEN THE OTHER
SIDE WE HAVE THE- THE VISION AND
UNDERSTANDING OF INDIVIDUALS WHO
LITERALLY IRON HOUSE BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T FIND. AFFORDABLE
HOUSING HOUSING THAT THEY CAN
AFFORD SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT
VARIANTS BUSHES ON THAT ON ON ON
BOTH SIDES AND I THINK BOTH ARE
QUITE- VALID POINTS TO BE MADE-
WITH REGARDS TO. CRIMINALIZING.
ARE ON HOUSE POPULATION- AND YOU
KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION
IS I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE
GOVERNOR. IS EXPANDING THE
MENTAL BEST HELP THE HELP THE
MENTAL HEALTH BED CAPACITY THAT
WE HAVE A LACK OF IN CALIFORNIA
TO BE ABLE TO- BE ABLE TO HOUSE
THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING
FROM BEHAVIOR HEALTH AND OPIOID.
WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF- AND ON
THE OTHER SIDE YOU KNOW I'M
WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES RIGHT
HERE FROM THE MISCO WITH REGARD
TO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE BUILDING MORE HOUSING IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHICH WE
NEED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH HOUSING ON THAT END SO
WE'RE- WE'RE WORKING ON THAT
FRONT. BUT AND THIS AND I WANTED
TO GIVE THE AUTHOR AN
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN- I KEEP.
HEARING THAT WE'RE CRIMINALIZING
THE ON HOW LIST- I WANT TO GIVE
AN OPPORTUNITY IN MY BIG WOULD
YOU MIND SHARING THE THOUGHTS
OF. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.
CRIMINALIZING AND- NOT
CRIMINALIZING OR IT EIGHT OR
INCARCERATING PEOPLE THAT ARE
HOMELESS I MEAN WOULD YOU WITH
THIS BILL INCARCERATE PEOPLE.
YEAH AND I THINK I WOULD I'D
LIKE YOU I'M GONNA GIVE MY
ANSWER THEN IT MAYBE I CAN HAVE
MISTER BOWMAN SPEAK TO HIS
EXPERIENCE ON THIS TOO IF HE'S
GONNA COME BACK UP. THIS BILL
IS- IN MY OPINION IS TAKING A
SOFTER APPROACH TO ENFORCING.
THESE ENCAMPMENTS AND I THINK
MOST CALIFORNIANS HAVE GOTTEN TO
THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE
FRUSTRATED WITH GOVERNMENT'S
LACK OF. ATTENTION TO THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE WE'RE NOT
SAYING. THAT ORGANIZED SWEEP UP
EVERY PERCENT ENCAMPMENTS AND
LOCK THEM UP THAT'S NOT THE
PURPOSE OF THIS THE PURPOSE OF
THIS IS TO PROTECT SENSITIVE
AREAS. AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN
THE ENCAMPMENT FOR WARNING. OF
THAT THAT THAT SWEEP IS COMING
THROUGH AND THEN ALSO GIVE THEM
THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED
TO SEEK TO SERVICES. IF THEY
WANT TO SEE THEM- IT'S NOTHING
IN THIS BILL COMPELS THEM TO
SEEK THOSE SERVICES. BUT I THINK
YOU KNOW TALK ABOUT THE
COMPASSIONATE PART ENFORCEMENT
MISTER BOWMAN HAS A HAZARD-
REALLY- INTERESTING ASPECT IN
HIS STORY ON WHAT THAT WHAT THAT
DIFFERENCE MADE FOR HIM. YEAH I
WAS ON THE STREET FOR TWO YEARS-
DEALING WITH. ALL KINDS OF
PEOPLE THE MENTAL HEALTH OF
PEOPLE THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
BEFORE THEIR THEIR- WE'LL HAVE
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FROM THEIR
DRUG USE YOU KNOW METH INDUCED
PSYCHOSIS HEROIN- BUT- I SPENT
ALL. THE TIME SITTING IN FRONT
OF. BUSINESSES IN IN MY LOCAL
COMMUNITY WITH GROUPS OF PEOPLE
SMOKING METH- IT'S JUST. THERE'S
SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT
YOU COULD OFFER THEM EVERYTHING
IN THE WORLD TO HELP TO GET
CLEAN. TO GET THE SERVICES IN A
LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA
STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT- YOU
PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW I HAVE TO
GET TIRED OF IT OR THEY NEED
SOME ENCOURAGEMENT I HAD BOTH I
HAD SOME PEOPLE COMING OUT. AND
OFFERING ME SOME PLACES TO GO.
AND TO LET THEM KNOW WHEN I WAS
READY AND SO I WENT TO THE
SALVATION ARMY AND NOT WORK-
IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. IF WE
COULD COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF
PROGRAM THAT HELPS PEOPLE GET
BACK IN THE HABIT OF TAKING CARE
OF THEMSELVES GETTING UP EARLY
BEING RESPONSIBLE. THANK YOU
ORDER OF WORK PROGRAM HAVE YOU
HIT IT- DO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE
DO BUT I'M NOT I THINK WE'RE NOT
SENATOR TO FINISHED I'M SORRY
MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFY AND
FINISH MY LINE OF THOUGHT AND
INNOVATION AND THEY DIDN'T.
CENTERS SO TROUBLED IF I CAN I
DIDN'T DO LET ME EXPLAIN
CLEARLY. THE LANGUAGE OF THE
BILL- PRESENTS A TOOL FOR THE
LOCAL DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT
TO HAVE THIS BE A CITATION
INFRACTION OR MISDEMEANOR IS UP
TO THE LOCALS DETERMINE. HOW
THEY WANT TO INVEST FORCES IF
THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY
NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL OUR OUR
GOAL WOULD BE THAT. PUBLIC
HEALTH OR SOME OTHER HOMELESS
OUT. REACH AGENCY OF THE
COUNTIES WOULD DO THIS FIRST
WITHOUT NEEDING LAW ENFORCEMENT.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO TO JAIL
FOR VIOLATING A CITATION SO.
THANK YOU. SENATOR THAT'S THAT'S
THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I WANTED
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESSED-
YOUR THOUGHTS IT I'M CONCERNED
WITH THE NOTION THAT THERE ARE
SOME COMMUNITIES DEPENDING YOU
HAVE A THOUSAND. FEET FROM THE
SENSITIVE AREAS- LIBRARY SCHOOLS
AND SO FORTH. BUT THERE WAS A
CONCERN RAISED ON WHETHER OR NOT
THERE IS COMMUNITIES THAT. DON'T
HAVE THAT SITE DON'T HAVE THOSE
ACCOMMODATIONS SIR- WITHIN THAT
SO HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS
COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE
ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU KNOW
THE DISTANCE FOR SAFETY- WITHIN
THOSE SENSITIVE AREAS WELL
THAT'S THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND
PRESENTING THESE IDEAS IN
COMMITTEE AND GETTING THEM.
INPUT FROM EVERYBODY- THE
STAKEHOLDERS ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE ISSUE IF THERE IS. A
POSSIBILITY DISCUSS THE PROPER
DISTANCE IF IT'S FIVE HUNDRED
FEET SEVEN ARE FIFTY FEET OR
THOUSAND FEET. THAT'S CERTAINLY
SOMETHING I WOULD BE OPEN TO
HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT I'M
SURE THAT- PROPONENTS OF THE
BILL WOULD. BE OPEN TO HAVING
THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL. COULD
SO I'M THERE COULD BE A COMEDY.
AND THEN- AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO
BE WE'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT AND I
SAY WE BECAUSE I I'M A CO AUTHOR
OF THE BILL BUT I WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE IT FOR THE
RECORD THAT. THE INTENT OF THIS
BILL DOES NOT TO CRIMINALIZE.
THE IN HOUSE BUT TWO ONE. AND
JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T
HAVE THEM CLOSE TO SCHOOLS OR
DAY CARE CENTERS- AND SO FORTH-
MORE SPECIFIC ADDRESSING THE
ISSUE WITH. WITH A FEW CERTAIN
OPIOID FENTON ALL MATH WHAT YEAH
EVERYTHING THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY
TARGET AND THEN THE OTHER POINT
IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
THEM- CONNECTED TO RESOURCES. SO
THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S AVAILABLE
NOW THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
MAKE THE TOUGH TALK TO AT THIS
POINT IS- THERE IS CONCERN AND
WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE
SUFFICIENT HOUSING. TO RELOCATE
OR REDIRECT- INDIVIDUALS AT OUR
IN HOUSE- WOULD YOU MIND SHARING
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT CONCERN
SURE AND I THINK THAT I AGREE
WITH THE- WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL THAT THAT
IS A MAJOR CONCERN OBVIOUSLY
THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN KALORAMA
HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND.
CALIFORNIANS ARE HOMELESS AND
MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE
STRUGGLING FROM DRUG ADDICTION
OR MENTAL ILLNESS AND THEY NEED
THAT THEY NEED HELP AND WE NEED
TO HELP THEM AND WE NEED TO HAVE
A COMPASSIONATE. APPROACH THAT
THIS THIS BILL IS NOT THAT'S
THIS BILL IS NOT THAT SOLUTION.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO SOLVE-
EVERY ASPECT OF THE HOMELESS.
SITUATION CALIFORNIA WITH THIS
ONE BILL THIS IS JUST ONE SIMPLE
FIRST STEP. TO HAVE A
COMPASSIONATE APPROACH TO SIDES
OF THE COIN ONE A COMPASSIONATE
APPROACH THE HOMELESS PEOPLE.
THAT ARE STUCK IN THOSE
ENCAMPMENTS AND ARE HAVING A
DIFFICULT TIME FINDING THEIR WAY
OUT OF THEM. AND THE SECOND
THING IS A COMPASSIONATE
APPROACH TO. KEEPING OUR
FAMILIES SAFE OUR CHILDREN SAFE
AS THEY GO IN AND OUT OF THESE.
FACILITIES LIBRARIES PARKS
SCHOOLS DAY CARE CENTERS OUR
FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN SHOULD
FEEL SAFE GOING IN AND OUT OF
THOSE LOCATIONS. AND THIS BILL.
PROVIDES THAT COMPASSION
APPROACH TO THAT AS WELL THANK
YOU THANK YOU- SENATOR WIENER.
BUT THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR-
YOU KNOW. THE CONVERSATIONS THAT
WE HAD A LITTLE WHILE AGO. ABOUT
A MONTH AGO ABOUT THIS- ABOUT
THIS BILL. I DON'T WANT TO
EXPLAIN WHY I'M NOT GOING TO BE
SUPPORTING THIS BILL- TODAY- AND
I'M NOT. I'M I'M PROBABLY NOT.
FOR PLACING DIFFERENT-
OVERLAPPING BUT DIFFERENT
REASONS TO SOME OF THE
OPPOSITION I DO AGREE THIS BILL
IS UNBELIEVABLY BROAD- AND FOR A
LOT OF CITIES WILL BASICALLY
KNOCKED OUT THE ENTIRE. CITY
WHEN WE HAVE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH HOMELESS SHELTERS WE
CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
HOUSING- AND I WANTED TO THE
KNOWLEDGE OF THE AUTHOR HAS
BEEN- YOU KNOW VERY OPEN MINDED
ABOUT HOUSING. LEGISLATION AND I
. APPRECIATE THAT- MY AGE AND I
AND I WILL SAY I AM NOT TO. OF
BILLS I'VE NEVER HAD TO ON ONE
THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS IN
LEGISLATORS PRE. THE ABILITY OR
BANNED CITIES. FROM HAVING ANY
KINDS OF LOCAL RESTRICTIONS ON
CAMPAIGN PUBLIC SPACES I DON'T
SUPPORT THOSE- CITIES. AS I
MIGHT. TAKE IT IS THAT I THINK
IS CORRECT CITIES. CURRENTLY
HAVE THE POWER TO DECIDE
LOCALLY. WHETHER THEY WANT TO
RESTRICT ENCAMPMENTS ARE
CAMPING. IN PUBLIC PLACES- IF SO
TO WHAT EXTENT- AND IN FACT IN
SAN FRANCISCO WE HAVE A NUMBER
OF THOSE LAWS SOME OF THEM ARE
NOT BEING FORCED AT THE MOMENT
BECAUSE OF COURT RULINGS THAT'S
A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE THE
COURTS WILL BE HAMMERING OUT.
BUT WE HAVE THOSE LAWS I'VE
SUPPORTED SOME OF THOSE LAWS AND
TAKING TAKING A LOT OF HEAT.
FROM SOME HOMELESS ADVOCATES-
FOR SUPPORTING THEM BUT I DO
BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD BE ABLE
TO MANAGE THEIR PUBLIC SPACES-
IN A WAY THAT ALSO FACILITATES
PEOPLE. TRANSITIONING OFF THE
STREETS AND I MAKING SURE PEOPLE
HAVE A PLACE TO GO- I HAVE
SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE STATE
COMING IN AND PUTTING AND- YOU
KNOW. A LAWS FOR EVERY CITY IN
THE STATE WHEN CITIES ALREADY
HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS- IF
THE CITY DECIDES NOT TO DO IT
THAT'S THEIR DECISION I THINK
MOST CITIES PROBABLY HAVE
DECIDED IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.
TO DO THIS AND CITY SHOULD BE
MAKING THOSE DECISIONS- AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL- SO FOR THOSE WHO.
THINK BECAUSE OF MY HOUSING WORK
THEM CATEGORICALLY OPPOSE A
LOCAL CONTROL OF ALWAYS. SAID
THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE IS A FORMER
LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIAL AND- AND
IT IS NOT TO THERE ARE DECISIONS
THAT ARE MOST APPROPRIATELY
MADE. AT THE STATE LEVEL THEIR
MUSICIANS THAT ARE PROPERLY MADE
THE LOCAL LEVEL I MEAN THIS IS
ONE. WHERE CITIES HAVE THE
TOOLS. TO MAKE THESE RULES AND
IN FACT IT'S GOING TO BE THE
CITIES. THAT WILL BE ENFORCING
EVEN OF THIS LOT BILL WERE TO
PASS INTO LAW IT WILL BE CITY.
POLICE AND CITY AGENCIES THAT
WILL BE SUPPORTED THE STATE WILL
NOT BE COMING IN. AND FORCING US
AND SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
POINT YEAH BUT BUT I THINK THE
CITY SHOULD BE. THERE FOR ME
SCULPTING. THE LAW THAT WORKS
FOR THEIR COMMUNITY SINCE
THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES.
ENFORCING IT- SO- I JUST WANTED
TO YOU KNOW- AGAIN THANK THE
SENATOR FOR TAKING ON WHAT IS A-
YEAR. BY MY CONSTITUENTS LIKE
CONSTITUENTS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE ARE DEEPLY. ANGRY AND
FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING
ON OUR STREETS IT'S A
HUMANITARIAN. DISASTER AND IT
DOESN'T IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THOSE
ENCAMPMENTS IT'S NOT GOOD FOR
THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BUT I JUST
DON'T THINK THAT- THIS IS THE
RIGHT. APPROACH FOR THE ENTIRE.
STATE AND SO I WON'T BE
SUPPORTING IT TODAY. THANK YOU
I. ANY OTHER SENATORS LIKE TO.
COMMENT ON THIS. ALL RIGHTS.
PLEASE CLOSE THANK YOU ARE DAHLE
JUST A BROKE ADDRESS ONE THING
THAT SO WIENER- MENTION AND
THAT'S THE STATEWIDE APPROACH-
WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN SOME OF
THESE LOCAL. LOCALS AS THEY'RE
PASSING THESE ORDINANCES AT A
LOCAL LEVEL- THEY'RE FORGETTING
THE COMPASSION SIDE OF IT WHICH
IS GIVING THE WARNING. TO THE-
ENCAMPMENTS AND- INCLUDING YOU
KNOW EITHER A TWENTY FOUR HOUR
FORTY SEVEN TO WHATEVER NUMBER
THEY WANT TO PICK- BUT ALSO.
REQUIRING THAT. WHATEVER
AGENCIES COMING IN THIS SWEEPER
AND ENCRYPTING CAMPUSES
INCLUDING THE- INFORMATION THAT
THEY NEED FOR- SERVICES. HOUSING
WHATEVER SO THAT'S THE ONE THING
THAT MY BILL WOULD DO THAT SOME
OF THE LOCALS. ARE LEAVING OUT
OF THERE- THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIRWOMAN AND MEMBERS- AND I
WANNA THANK MY- WITNESSES FOR
COMING UP AS- AIR KEVIN FAULKNER
FOR MAKING THE TRIP UP- BRETT
BOWMAN. WHO IS JUST A-
RESILIENT. ADVOCATE FOR THE
HOMELESS HERE IN CALIFORNIA
APPRECIATE HIM CONTINUOUSLY.
WILLING TO SHARE HIS STORY WITH
US. SB THIRTY ONE STRIKES I
BELIEVE THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE
BETWEEN COUNT ABILITY AND
COMPASSION AND HELPING TOPPLE
TACKLE THE HOMELESS CRISIS WHILE
PUTTING PUBLIC HEALTH. AND
PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE TOP
PRIORITIES. I'VE TALKED TO
PEOPLE JUST AS CENTER WIENER
JUST MENTIONED WE'VE TALKED TO
PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE STATE.
REPRESENTING ALL SIDES OF THE
IDEOLOGICAL SPECTRUM. AND
ACTUALLY SURPRISES ME HOW
UNIVERSALLY CALIFORNIANS AGREE
THAT THE HOMELESS CRISIS HAS
GOTTEN OUT OF HAND. AND
ENCAMPMENTS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO
GET TOO FAR OUT OF CONTROL. NO
MATTER HOW LIBERAL OR
CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE ARE OR-
AGNOSTIC OR NON POLITICAL. OUR
VERY POLITICAL. CALIFORNIANS ARE
INFURIATED BY THE ENCAMPMENTS
THAT THEY SEE IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES EVERY DAY. WE NEED
TO DO MORE THE REASONING CAMAS
BOTHER PEOPLE IS BECAUSE THEY
CAN SEE HIM. YOU CAN'T IGNORE
THE PROBLEM WHEN IT'S NOW TAKING
UP A LANE OF THE STREET. ON YOUR
DRIVE HOME FROM WORK. ON THE
CASE OF SB THIRTY ONE ON YOUR
WAY TO YOUR KID'S SCHOOL. PARK
LIBRARY OR DAY CARE CENTER SO
WHAT WE DO. WE DRIVE BY AND
DISCUSSED IN FRUSTRATION AND
COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. BUT SB THIRTY
ONE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THIS BILL CLEANS UP THOSE
ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY
CAUSING POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES
FOR OUR CHILDREN. AND IN SO
DOING TOUCHES THE HOMELESS
INDIVIDUAL ONE MORE TIME. ONE
TIME CLOSER TO SAYING YES. TO
ACCEPTING THAT SERVICE ONE TIME
CLOSER TO SAYING YES TO STAYING
IN THE SHELTER FOR THAT NIGHT.
ONE TIME CLOSER TO LETTING
SOMEONE HELP THEM PULL THEIR
LIFE. BACK TOGETHER. AND THIS
BILL ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE
EVERYTHING WE KNOW THAT BUT WE
NEED TO START ADDING TOOLS PART
TOOL CHEST. CALIFORNIANS NEED TO
ADOPT THE IMPROV CARE MENTALITY
OF YES AND YES IS TRYING EVERY
POTENTIAL SOLUTION. AND ADD TO
IT WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. I'M
NOT OKAY WITH CALIFORNIA
CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE PROBLEM
AND THIS BILL DOES SOMETHING
MEASURABLE TO FIX IT. THIS IS A
BIPARTISAN BILL AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. THANK
YOU SENATOR I DO WE HAVE A
MOTION ON THIS BILL. SALUTE SO
AS SENATE BILL THIRTY ONE HAS
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR- CHOI
BOGUE- CAN WE CALL ROLE PLEASE.
SB THIRTY ONE MOTIONS TO PASS
THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR
HOP NOW FIVE NO IT'S OVER I.
OTHER AYE BRADFORD. SKINNER
WIENER. THANK YOU. I THINK VOTE
IS ONCE ONE- AND HAS FAILED
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A
RECONSIDERATION PLEASE THANK YOU
THANK YOU. SO UNANIMOUS CONSENT
FOR RECONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT
THANK YOU KNOW OPPOSITION SO-
YOU'RE GRANTED EVERY
CONSIDERATION THANK YOU VENTURE
PATIENT THAT. SO WE HAVE SENATE
BILL TWO THIRTY SIX JONES-
CREATES A GRANT PROGRAM FOR
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICES. WHO
USE A VERTICAL PROSECUTION
METHODOLOGY FOR HUMAN
TRAFFICKING CRIMES- SENATOR YOU
HAVE FLOOR. THANK YOU CENTER
MA'AM SURE APPRECIATED I WOULD
LIKE TO START BY ACCEPTING
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO REMOVE
THE APPROPRIATION FROM THE BILL
I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE ARE
ACTUALLY IN WRITING OR NOT BUT-
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS TO THAT
END OKAY. S. B. TWO THIRTY SIX
IS AN EFFORT TO CONFRONT THE
SCOURGE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
THAT YOUR COMMITTEES ANALYSIS
APTLY POINTS OUT IS AMONG THE
WORLD'S FASTEST GROWING CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISES. THIS IS NOT A
PROBLEM OF A POLITICAL PARTY OR
GEOGRAPHY THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT
IMPACTS ALL OF US ACROSS
CALIFORNIA IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO
RESOLVE IT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A FORM OF
MODERN DAY SLAVERY. SIMPLY PUT
IT IS CRIMINALS PREYING ON THOSE
WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR
SOCIETY IN THE CRUELEST WAY
IMAGINABLE. SB TWO THIRTY SIX
EXPANDS THE CONCEPT OF RADICAL
PROSECUTION THAT IS WORKING
SUCCESSFULLY IN SEVERAL
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES AND IS THE
METHODOLOGY METHODOLOGY OFTEN
USING COMPLEX CASES LIKE
HOMICIDE GAINES CHILD ABUSE AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. VERTICAL
PROSECUTION IS A SYSTEM THAT
ALLOWS A SINGLE PROSECUTOR TO
TAKE THE CASE FROM THE BEGINNING
STAGES ALL THE WAY TO THE
PROSECUTION AND SENTENCING.
VERTICAL PROSECUTION ALLOWS A
PROSECUTOR TO BUILD REPORT WITH
THE VICTIM AND DEVELOP GREATER
COMMUNITY IN THE CASE CONTINUITY
IN THE CASE. THIS BILL CREATES A
GRANT PROGRAM SUBJECT TO FUNDING
WITHIN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY SERVICES. TO PROVIDE
FUNDING FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
STATEWIDE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE VERTICAL FUNDING
METHODOLOGY. WE HAVE MADE
PROGRESS IN THE BATTLE AGAINST
HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN CALIFORNIA
BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH. THIS BILL
WILL TAKE TRAFFICKERS OFF THE
STREET THUS SAVING FUTURE
VICTIMS. MANAGER I HAVE A
WITNESS HERE TODAY MATTHEW GRECO
FROM THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS OFFICES ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU WITNESS YOU HAVE
MINUTES. GOOD MORNING I'M CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
BOB HI MATTHEW GRECO. A TWENTY
SIX YEAR BUT CAREER PROSECUTOR
ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION. IN SUPPORT OF THIS-
FUNDAMENTAL VERY IMPORTANT BILL
SENATE BILL TWO THIRTY SIX.
WHICH WOULD CREATE GRANT FUNDS
TO BE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST ELEVEN
I COUNTIES TO SUPPLEMENT FUNDING
FOR VERTICAL PROSECUTION- HUMAN
TRAFFICKING REMAINS. A LUCRATIVE
CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE IT IS THE
SELLING OF FLASH THE HUMAN BODY
FIVE AND IT IS THE SELLING OF
THAT MULTIPLE TIMES THE REALLY
DISTINGUISHES IT FROM OTHER.
TYPES OF CONTRABAND OF WEAPONS
NARCOTICS THOSE WHO TRAFFIC IN
HUMAN FLESH NO VERY WELL- THAT
THEY CAN INFLICT PHYSICAL AND
MENTAL TERROR UPON THEIR VICTIMS
MAKING THE CRIME DIFFICULT TO
PROSECUTE. THE TRAFFICKERS ALSO
MOVE THEIR ENTERPRISE FROM PLACE
TO PLACE FROM STATE TO STATE
FROM CITY TO CITY. THE BEST WAY
TO ATTACK THESE TRAFFICKERS IS
THROUGH VERTICAL PROSECUTION
UNITS SUPPORTED BY VICTIM
ADVOCATES. VERTICAL UNITS CAN
BETTER COORDINATE WITH OTHER
JURISDICTIONS TO TRACK APPREHEND
AND PROSECUTE OFFENDERS.
SPECIALLY TRAINED PROSECUTION
STAFF CAN FOCUS ON PREVENTING
AND OVERCOMING THE PHYSICAL AND
MENTAL MANIPULATIONS OF
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS THE TRULY
ARE THE MAJOR IMPEDIMENT. IN
ENSURING THAT VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. RECEIVE THE
SERVICES AND THE JUSTICE THAT
THEY DESERVE SAN DIEGO COUNTY
HAS A HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK
FORCE. UP SPEARHEADED BY THE SAN
DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT
LEVERAGES BOTH LOCAL- AGENCIES
AS WELL AS FEDERAL AGENCIES
INCLUDING THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION AND HOMELAND
SECURITY. THE PRIMARY GOAL OF
THIS- TASK FORCE IS RESCUING
THOSE FORCED INTO HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. IN FACT IN THE
RESURGENCE OF COORDINATED
OPERATION IN FEBRUARY- THERE
WERE OVER THIRTY INDIVIDUALS OF
VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
THAT WERE RESCUED INCLUDING NINE
MINERS ONE AS YOUNG AS THIRTEEN
YEARS OLD. BY CREATING GRANT
FUNDS TO SUPPLEMENT THE EXISTING
VERTICAL PROSECUTION UNITS S. B.
TWO THIRTY SIX ENCOURAGES THE
CONTINUED USE OF VERTICAL
PROSECUTION MODEL AND HOPES TO
HOLD OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE WHILE
ALSO PROVIDING VALUABLE VICTIM
SERVICES TO THE VULNERABLE
VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
FOR THOSE REASONS. WE WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR YES
VOTE THANK YOU THANK YOU VENTURE
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER LEAD
WITNESSES. ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE
I CAN WE HAVE ANY OF THE
WITNESSES THAT ARE HERE IN THIS
ROOM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOUR
SUPPORT STRUCTURE MEMBERS RAINY
PAIRED WITH THEIR MARINO SAYS
IT'S ON BEHALF OF POOR I CAN
SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS GAIL STEWARD
ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUMMER STEPHAN
. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. SEEING NONE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE WERE
GONNA ASK IF THERE'S ANY
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE THAT WE
WILL MOVE ON THANK YOU. TO THE
WITNESSES THAT HAVE TESTIFIED SO
FAR- WILL MOVE ON TO THE
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE PLEASE
JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF THIS BILL WE WILL BEGIN.
THANK YOU. YOUR WISH TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. AND WE'LL GO TO
LINE TWENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MONEY CAN THINK OF THE DIRECTOR
OF A FIRM TO GO PUBLIC DEFENDER
BOB AND ALSO. AND TO SMOKE WHILE
WE GET PROVIDE LIGHT NUMBER FOR
ONE MORE NO WORRIES.
THANK YOU FOR THAT- MADAM CHAIR
WILL GO TO. FIND EIGHTY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
MARLENE VIA- MY BROTHER PASSED
AWAY FROM CENTRAL POISONING I'M
GOING WHICH IS HAVE WHETHER YOU
SUPPORT THIS BILL OR NOT. FORTY
YEAR. THANK YOU. MEDICARE HAVE
NO NO SINGULAR DECIDED. THANK
YOU TO ALL OUR SUPPORT IN
OPPOSITION WITNESSES WILL NOT
BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO THE
MEMBERS MEMBERS DO WE HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS-
SENATOR WIENER HAS MOVED THE
BILL- THE SENATOR WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR-
SINNERS THANK YOU THIS BILL WILL
HELP BRING JUSTICE TO THOSE WHO
HAVE FALLEN PREY TO THE HEINOUS
CRIME OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND
HELP STOP THE EXPLOITATION OF
INNOCENT INDIVIDUALS BY PUTTING
PREDATORS BEHIND BARS AND
SPECIALLY I RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. THANK YOU THE BILL HAS
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR WIENER THE
MOTION IS DO PASS
APPROPRIATIONS. AS AMENDED. CAN
WE CALL ROLL SB TWO THIRTY SIXTY
PASS AS AMENDED TO APPROACH. BOB
I HAVE I OWE TO A- ABOUT FIVE
BRADFORD ON BEDFORD AYE SKINNER
. WIENER HI SKINNER AYE WIENER
WIENER AYE. FIVE TWO ZERO THAT
BILL IS OUT THANK YOU THANK YOU
CENTERS HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE
DAY. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE NOT
CENTER. IN ORDER. I HAD. IF THEY
CAN TALK AMONGST THEMSELVES.
WHAT'S THAT. ASSEMBLY WHO'S YEAR
AND WHENEVER DEL FIVE. G. WATER
. SO CENTER AMBER IS FOR AS
FORTY FOUR SENATOR YOU HAVE
FLOOR- THANK YOU VENTURA IF
MIGHT IF AS SIX FOUR FOR. AND
THEN AS FORTY SHARE ALL RIGHT.
LET ME BE BY THANKING YOU THAT
CHAIR AND YOUR STAFF IN
PARTICULAR MERRIT KENNEDY FOR
THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS BILL
THIS BILL DOES IS THIS PERMITS A
SEARCH WARRANT TO BE ISSUED IN-
ALLEGED CRIMES HATE CRIMES. IT'S
ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW
GIVEN THE RISE OF HATE CRIMES
WHERE THERE WAS A CONSEQUENCE OF
THE PANDEMIC FOR IT IT IS A
CONSEQUENCE OF OTHER SOCIETAL
ISSUES HATE CRIMES HAVE. IT'S
RESPECT TO ANTI ASIAN HATE
CRIMES FOR EXAMPLE HAVE
INCREASED 310039% OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS AND I EXPECTED
OTHER VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES ARE
OTHER TARGETED COMMUNITIES HATE
CRIMES HAVE INCREASED AND THERE
AS WELL- AND SO CURRENTLY A
SEARCH WARRANT CANNOT BE ISSUED
FOR MOST MISDEMEANORS INCLUDING
MISDEMEANORS- ALLEGING A HATE
CRIME. AND I'LL JUST DRAW MY OWN
PERSONAL EXPERIENCES TO WHY
THAT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT
MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS A
PROSECUTOR I THINK ABRAHAM
LINCOLN WAS A PROSECUTOR SAME
TIME- MANY YEARS AGO THERE WERE
NO HATE CRIMES LAWS ON THE
BOOKS. AND IN IN MY OWN COUNTY
IN WESTMINSTER- SOME SKINHEADS
TRIED DRIVING AFRICAN AMERICAN
FAMILY OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD
THEY LIVED THERE FOR OVER THIRTY
YEARS. AND THEY BURNED A CROSS
ON THEIR LAWN THE DEFENSE WAS
THIS WAS SIMPLY A NEIGHBORHOOD
DISPUTE THIS WAS A PRANK. WELL
WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT WAS A PRANK
BUT IT WAS A MISDEMEANOR AT THE
TIME AND BUT FOR THE FACT THAT
WE BASICALLY COMBINED IT WITH A
CONSPIRACY ALLEGATION IT WOULD
NOT HAVE BEEN A FELONY WOULD NOT
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO. EXECUTE A
SEARCH WARRANT IN THE SEARCH
WARRANT WAS DETERMINATIVE AND
THAT PROSECUTION BECAUSE WE HAD
TO DEMONSTRATE NOT JUST THE ACT
BUT ALSO RACIAL ANIMUS. AND BY
VIRTUE OF THE SEARCH WARRANT WE
FOUND TO BE HAPPY TO. TELL FOLKS
OFF WHAT WE WITH SOME VERY
NOXIOUS. AND EVIDENCE OF A
BROADER CONSPIRACY- THERE WAS A
CONVICTION. THANKFULLY IN ANY
EVENT SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT THIS IS ABOUT. ALLOWING
PROSECUTORS. TO BE ABLE TO SEEK
A SEARCH WARRANT IT HAS TO BE
JUST LIKE OTHER SEARCH WARRANTS.
HAS TO BE AUTHORIZED BY A JUDGE
AFTER A- SIGNED AFFIDAVIT. UNDER
PENALTY OF PERJURY. I HAVE- WITH
ME AS WITNESSES THE SAME DISCO
DISCO TOURNEY MISS BROOKE
JENKINS AS WELL AS LAURIE.
FRUGALLY FROM THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION-
MISS JENKINS IF YOU DON'T MIND
MADAM CHAIR. DEFINITELY YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES WELCOME. YES HI GOOD
MORE GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS I AM PROUD TO JOIN
SENATOR- BURKE AND OTHERS HERE
TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF STUFF
SB SIXTY FOUR. I AM THIS THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY
AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO A
CITY THAT PRIDES ITSELF ON OUR
DIVERSITY. BUT LIKE EVERYWHERE
ELSE IN AMERICA SAN FRANCISCO
HAS PROVEN NOT TO BE IMMUNE FROM
BIAS HATE AND BIGOTRY. BETWEEN
TWENTY TWENTY AND TWENTY TWENTY
ONE HATE CRIMES IN SAN FRANCISCO
SPIKED PARTICULARLY AGAINST
ASIAN AMERICANS. WHERE WE SAW
RECORD SPIKE A FIVE HUNDRED AND
SIXTY SEVEN PERCENT. INCREASE IN
HATE CRIMES AGAINST THE ASIAN
AMERICAN COMMUNITY WE HAVE ALSO
CONTINUE TO SEE AN UPWARD TREND
IN HATE CRIMES AGAINST THE BLACK
LGBTQ AND JEWISH COMMUNITIES IN
THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. PRIOR TO
BECOMING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY I
SERVED AS THE DESIGNATED HATE
CRIMES PROSECUTOR IN SAN
FRANCISCO DURING A PORTION OF
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. I SAW
HATE CRIMES AND HATE INCIDENTS
RISE DRAMATICALLY. HATE CRIMES
ARE ONE OF THE ONLY CRIMES IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT
REQUIRE PROSECUTORS TO PROVE
MOTIVE. WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT A
DEFENDANT'S ACTIONS WERE
MOTIVATED BY HATE BIAS OR ANIMUS
TOWARD THE VICTIM FOR THEIR
PROTECTED CLASS OR
CHARACTERISTIC. LAW ENFORCEMENT
NEEDS ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE.
IN THESE CASES TO PROVE WHAT
MOTIVATED THESE CRIMES. WE ALSO
NEED ALL OF THE TOOLS AVAILABLE
TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO
SUSPECTS AND PERPETRATORS ARE IN
CRIMES THAT ARE CLEARLY
MOTIVATED BY HATE. BY
AUTHORIZING COURTS TO ISSUE
SEARCH WARRANTS TO ENABLE LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO GATHER ADDITIONAL
EVIDENCE OF HATEFUL INTENT.
PROSECUTORS CAN COLLECT THE
CRUCIAL EVIDENCE NECESSARY TO
HOLD ALL OFFENDERS WHO COMMIT
THESE ACTS ACCOUNTABLE. ONE
EXAMPLE TO OFFER IS JUST THREE
WEEKS AGO A VICTIM WAS RIDING A
BUS IN SAN FRANCISCO WHEN
ANOTHER PASSENGER LOOKED AT HER
AND SAID I DON'T LIKE CHINA. AS
THE VICTIM TRIED TO IGNORE THE
SUSPECT THE SUSPECT FORCIBLY
SPAT AT THE VICTIM IT REPEATED
THEIR STATEMENT. THE SUSPECTS
FOUND ON THE VICTIM SEVERAL MORE
TIMES BEFORE GETTING OFF OF THAT
BUS. SB SIXTY FOUR WOULD
AUTHORIZE OFFICERS TO
POTENTIALLY OBTAIN SEARCH
WARRANTS TO SECURE VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE TRANSIT CARD DATA
AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA DATA THAT
COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO
IDENTIFY WHO THE PERPETRATOR IS
AS WELL AS UNCOVER FURTHER
EVIDENCE OF THE ANIMUS HARBOR.
NOTHING IS MORE PERSONAL THAN
BEING TARGETED BECAUSE OF WHO
YOU ARE. LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS
EVERY SINGLE TOOL AVAILABLE TO
SOLVE THESE CRIMES AND TO
PROVIDE JUSTICE TO OUR VICTIMS
THANK YOU THANK YOU. I DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER LEAD WITNESSES.
THANK YOU HAVE THE FLOOR IN TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU A GOOD
MORNING I'M LORI FOR THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF MARIN
COUNTY AND I'M HONORED HERE TO
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION ON BEHALF. IN
SUPPORT OF PROP USING SB SIXTY
FOUR AND I WANT TO THANK CENTER
ON BURKE FOR RECOGNIZING THAT WE
ALL NEED TO DO COLLECTIVELY WHAT
WE CAN TO STOP HATE. SOME OF YOU
MIGHT BE THINKING AT THIS MOMENT
IN TIME WITH THE MOMENT AND A
CALL FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM
WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS NEEDED WHY
IS A DISTRICT ATTORNEY HERE
REQUESTING ADDITIONAL
LEGISLATION. BUT I SUBMIT TO YOU
SB SIXTY FOUR IS SORELY NEEDED
WE CAN'T DENY THAT HATE CRIMES
ARE ON THE RISE AS WAS NOTED BY.
THE JENKINS AND AS IT IS NOW
WHEN A CRIME IS COMMITTED WE
DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEED TO
PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THESE
CRIMES. OFTEN INVESTIGATORS FIND
SOME EVIDENCE OF CRIMES
COMMITTED BY HATE BUT WE HAVE TO
PROVE THEY DID IT. BECAUSE OF
THE HATRED OF A PARTICULAR
GROUP. JURORS IN THE TRIAL IS
THE FACT ASK FOR MORE. WHY DID
YOU SEARCHES PHONE HIS COMPUTER
CITY TEXAS INTENT BEFORE HE
COMMITTED THIS CRIME. THE BELONG
TO IS RACIST GROUPS. THESE ARE
THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASK US WHEN
WE ARE FILING THESE CRIMES
CONSIDERING TRAINING THEM AND
ALSO WHEN WE ATTEMPT TO
PROSECUTE THEM. WHAT'S A
MISDEMEANOR CRIME IS COMMITTED
IN THIS CASE WITH SB FIFTY FOUR
SIXTY FOUR. AN OFFICER BELIEVES
IT WAS COMMITTED BECAUSE OF
HATRED OF IDENTIFIED GROUP. THIS
BILL WOULD ALLOW US TO CONDUCT
ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION BASED
UPON ARTICULATED FAX IN AN
AFFIDAVIT. PRESENTED TO A JUDGE
IN MARIN COUNTY THESE AFFIDAVITS
ARE PRESENTED TO MY OFFICE FIRST
AND REVIEW BY MY OFFICE SO. IN
MOST CASES WITH MOST DA'S OFFICE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE
DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SCRUTINY. A
POLICE OFFICER ON THE STREET THE
DA'S OFFICE AND THE JUDGE BEFORE
ANY ACTION IS TAKING IN ANY
SEARCHES CONDUCTED. CASES SUCH
AS WERE MENTIONED EARLIER IN
MARIN WE HAD A CASE WHERE A
MUSLIM SECURITY GUARD RETURNED
TO HER CAR. TO FIND ABANDONED
VANDALIZED A PIG BLOOD AND OTHER
PORK PRODUCTS STREWN ABOUT HER
VEHICLE. OR THE MUSLIM WOMAN IN
SANTA CLARA WHOSE ATTACK TO
STARBUCKS BY A PERSON WHO RIPPED
OFF FOR HE JOB. AND TOOK HER
WITH IT. OR THREATENING RACIST
PHONE CALLS WHICH WE'VE HAD IN
MY COUNTY INTENTIONALLY WORDED
TO SKIRT. THE FELONY THREATS
LAW. WARRANTS IN CASES LIKE
THESE WILL HELP US DETERMINE.
WHAT WAS THE PERSON'S INTENT DID
THEY TOOK SOMEONE- PHONE SOMEONE
BEFORE THEY COMMITTED THIS CRIME
ARE THEY LEARNING ONLINE HOW TO
COMMIT THESE CRIMES. AND ESCAPE.
ACCOUNTABILITY SO. AT THE
WELCOME NEW. AND DIVERSE TO OUR
- THOSE WHO WE WELCOME AND WHO
ARE ALREADY HERE. ARE ALREADY
TARGETS AT THE AT HATE CRIMES AS
WAS NOTED. MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF
THEIR RACE THEIR SEX THEIR
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS WHETHER
THEY'RE IMMIGRANTS MEMBERS OF
THE API COMMUNITY TRANSGENDER.
MUSLIM JEWISH GAY. THE REALITY
IS HATE KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES AND
WE LIVE IN SEE THAT EVERY DAY.
WE ASK FOR HATE CRIMES TO BE
ADDED TO THE LIST WHICH
CURRENTLY INCLUDES MISDEMEANOR
CRIMES OF CHILD **** DO YOU I
REFUSAL INVESTIGATIONS. EVEN
FISHING GAME. INVESTIGATIONS AS
HATE CRIMES IN THE
SOPHISTICATION TO COMMIT THESE
CRIMES AND ESCAPE ACCOUNTABILITY
RISES. WE ASK YOU HELP. BY
PROVIDING US WITH THIS TOOL SO
THAT WE CAN STAND UP. AND RISE
AGAINST HATE THANK YOU THANK YOU
I DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT IN THIS ROOM. STATE
YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND
YOUR SUPPORT BENCHER OF THE
MEMBERS APPOINTED ON BEHALF OF
SAN FRANCISCO MARYLAND READ ALSO
IN SUPPORTER DRIVE OUT. THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS BRANDED
UP ON BEHALF OF LOS ANGELES COOK
COUNTY SHERIFF ROBERT LEWIN AND
SUPPORT THANKS. MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS RAINY PARIS PORAC IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR
MATTHEW GRECO ON BEHALF OF THE
SAN DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION AND THE
SAN DIEGANS AGAINST CRIME. THANK
YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
MEMBERS IN THE ROOM IN SUPPORT.
SEEING NONE WILL MOVE TO
OPPOSITION LEAD WITNESSES. DO WE
HAVE ANY LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE WILL ASK
FOR OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM. SEEING NONE WE WILL MOVE
ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION.
MODERATOR IF YOU'D PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL WE WILL BEGIN THANK YOU.
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TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
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INFORMED THANK PETER CARE ACT
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. SAN BERNARDINO PHONE. IN
SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR HAVE NO
ELSE AND HE AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU AND YOU TO ALL OUR WITH WILL
NOW BRING THE DISCUSS BACK TO
THE MEMBERS TO ANY OF OUR
MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS SENATOR SKINNER PLEASE
. BY MOVE THE BILL THANK YOU DO
WE HAVE ANY OTHER SENATOR WHICH
ABOVE. I JUST NEED A
CLARIFICATION ON ON IN THE
PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE- THERE
WAS A COMMON HERE THAT I READ
THAT TO THE SEARCH WARRANT
PROCEDURE TO APPLY TO POTENTIAL-
HATE FEEL CRIMES THAT ARE
ULTIMATELY CHARGED AS
MISDEMEANORS SO WITH THIS SEARCH
WARRANTS B. NUMBER SERVICE. USES
AS THE NUMBER AND- WITH THE
SEARCH WARRANTS B. ISSUED. FOR-
ATTENTIONAL. OR ACTUAL CRIMES
OCCURRING OR THAT HAVE OCCURRED
. WELL IT MY BELIEF IS THAT THE
SEARCH WILL BE ISSUED FOR
CONTRABAND OR EVIDENCE OF THE
CRIME SO FOR EXAMPLE TO USE THE-
EXAMPLE PROVIDED OF- DESECRATION
OF A VEHICLE WITH PORK PRODUCTS-
THAT. THE OFFICER WHO WAS
INVESTIGATING WOULD FALL
AFFIDAVITS SAY WE THINK WE CAN
FIND EVIDENCE OF FOR EXAMPLE
RACIAL ANIMUS OR RELIGIOUS
ANIMUS IN THIS CASE- IN
SOMEONE'S COMPUTER. AND SO THEY
SPECIFY A PARTICULAR- YET TO BE
SEARCHED AND HOW IT WOULD BE
SEARCHED THEY FELT THAT
AFFIDAVIT AND WHY THEY THINK
THAT EVIDENCE WOULD BE THERE
THEY THEN- AS WAS EXPLAINED BY
THE MARIN DISTRICT ATTORNEY
WOULD SUBMIT IT TO THE DA- AS IS
OFTEN DONE AND- THAT IS
SUBMITTED TO A JUDGE DETERMINE
WHETHER IT'S PROBABLE CAUSE TO
BELIEVE THAT A SEARCH WARRANT
SHOULD BE ISSUED. THAT WOULD BE
THE TYPICAL PROCESS BUT WE ARE
LOOKING FOR YOU LOOKING
TYPICALLY FOR EVIDENCE. IT
DIDN'T JUST FOR CLARIFICATIONS
FOR CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN
COMMITTED OR ART BEING
COMMITTED. AT THE TIME CRIMES
THAT ARE SUSPECTED TO HAVE BEEN
COMMITTED SYSTEM YES I AM SORRY
I APOLOGIZE YES SO NOT THE
POTENTIAL OF COMMITTED A CRIME
BUT- THAT HAVE OCCURRED OR ARE
OCCURRING RIGHT HAVE OCCURRED.
WELL IF FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S A
CONSPIRACY. SO THAT YOU BELIEVE
THAT THERE'S ONE THERE'S BEEN
LIKE A CRY YOU'RE THE OFFICER
YOU BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN A CRIME
COMMITTED RIGHT. IN TERMS OF
HATE CRIMES OFTEN THERE'S A
CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT ADDITIONAL
CRIMES SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
EVIDENCE OF THAT AND IF YOU
BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ALSO A
CONSPIRACY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
EVIDENCE OF THE CONSPIRACY AS
WELL. SO THAT THE CONSPIRACY OF
SUGGEST THAT THERE'D BE EVEN
FUTURE CRIMES BUT THE CRIME
YOU'RE LOOKING AT TERMS OF THE
SEARCH WARRANT AFFIDAVIT IS
WHATEVER HAPPENED HERE'S WHAT WE
SAW WE SAW THE FOLLOWING. WE
BELIEVE THAT THE FOLLOWING WAS
GENERATED BY RACIAL ANIMUS THE
REASON WE BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE
WE ALL BELIEVE THAT WITH RESPECT
TO MUSLIMS THAT PORK PRODUCTS
HAVE A SPECIAL- OF HORNS. IT WAS
MEANT TO. SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT
COMMUNITY- AND THUS WE WOULD
LIKE TO SEARCH I USE THE
COMPUTERS EXAMPLE. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT SEEING FURTHER SENATOR
WOULD YOU LIKE CLOSE. UP THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- HE CRIMES ARE
UNIQUE BREED I ACTUALLY IN MY
LEGISLATIVE CAREER I SERVED HERE
BEFORE HE CRIMES WERE ON THE
BOOKS- BUT HE CRIMES ARE NOT
JUST TARGET THE INDIVIDUAL
VICTIM HATE CRIMES ARE TARGETED
AT A COMMUNITY TO SEND A
MESSAGE. TO AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY
THERE IN A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN-
AND I THINK THIS IS A TOOL THAT
WOULD BE MOST IMPORTANT AND-
BASICALLY IDENTIFYING. OF THOSE
WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE AND
PREVENTING FURTHER CRIME.
ORIGINAL THANK YOU SO- THE BILL
HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
SKINNER. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED APPROPRIATIONS- CAN WE
HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE
SENATOR BOB HI. BOB HI WHICH OF
THE I JOB I BRED. AYE BRADFORD
AYE SKINNER HI SKINNER AYE
WIENER. WIENER AYE. DESIRABILITY
THANK YOU THE VOTERS FIVE ZERO
THE BILL OUT I DO A QUICK RE.
THAT WE DO THE ITEMS THAT HAVE
ARE BEEN SO. LIFTING CALL. SB
TWO MOTIONS THE PASTOR. CURRENT
VOTE IS THREE TO ONE WIENER HI
THERE I FOR ONE THOUSAND FORTY
ONE THAT BILL IS OUT THE SB TWO.
YES S. THREE SIXTY EIGHT MY IS
DEEP HERE FOR. CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE TO ZERO A CHAU OKAY.
WIENER HI WIENER AYE. THAT
VOTERS FOR DISEASE THAT'S B.
SIXTY EIGHT OUT. THANK SB TWO
THIRTY I'M SORRY SEVEN POINT.
FIVE HE SAID CALENDAR FOR FOUR
ZERO WINNER. CONSENT IS A TO ME
YES YES I MEAN THERE ARE STILL.
FIVE CONSENT CAL OUT THANK YOU
MOVE ON TO FORTY I CENTER BIRTH
RESTORED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
VENTURE AND I KNOW SAID BEFORE
BUT LET ME UNDER IT THAT- YOU
MATT CHAIR THE COMMITTEE STAFF
DEVOTED TREMENDOUS OF TIME IN
THE TO THIS- AND IS A- FEDLOAN
IS. CAUSING AN UNBELIEVABLE
NUMBER OF DEATHS IN THE
TRAJECTORY IS UNFORTUNATELY
HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION
JUST THE LAST YEAR THEY'VE BEEN
ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN FIVE
HUNDRED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE
DIED AS A CONSEQUENCE OF
OVERDOSE MANY OF THOSE FOLKS
MANY OF THOSE FOLKS MANY MAYBE
TWO THIRDS OR MORE. ACTUALLY DID
NOT KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THEY
PURCHASED OR RECEIVED A
PARTICULAR COMPOUND A PARTICULAR
DRUG THAT THAT WAS LACED WITH
SOMETHING LIKE FENTANYL SO FOR
EXAMPLE IF YOU'RE THINKING
YOU'RE GETTING XANAX BECAUSE YOU
WANT TO CALM YOUR NERVES BEFORE
YOU GET ON A FLIGHT. AND YOU BUY
XANAX FROM- ANOTHER SOURCE NOT A
PHARMACY ANOTHER SOURCE. TURNS
OUTS LEASES SENTINEL YOU DIE. UP
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE FOLKS HAVE
PURCHASED. WHAT THEY BELIEVED TO
BE A DIFFERENT COMPOUND OXY CODE
ON WHATEVER IT TURNS OUT IT'S
LACED WITH FENTANYL THIS IS
CALLED ALEXANDER'S LAW THAT'S
EXACTLY THE CIRCUMSTANCE. AS
WITH RESPECT TO- ALEXANDRA WHO
BELIEVE THAT THAT SHE WAS
PURCHASING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AS A CONSEQUENCE THAT WAS LACED
THE OXY CODE ON WAS LACED WITH
FENTANYL AND SHE DIED. NOW THAT
THE NUMBER OF DEATHS IN THE
EPIDEMIC THAT'S IMPACTING US-
IT'S GREATER THAN THE NUMBER OF
THOSE KILLED. IN VIETNAM KOREA
AFGHANISTAN IN IRAQ THAT'S THE
MAGNITUDE OF THE CRISIS IN IT
AGAIN IS INCREASING
EXPONENTIALLY. UP THERE'S IN
THIS IT'S NOT JUST THOSE WHO FOR
EXAMPLE- ARE DIRECTED TO HEAR
WHEN IN YOU- ACCIDENTALLY
OVERDOSE. MANY IF NOT MOST OF
THE VICTIMS DID NOT KNOW AT THE
TIME THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY-
INGESTING FENTANYL. THIS IS JUST
ONE TOOL THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
TOOLS THIS IS NOT A PANACEA FOR
THE FENTANYL EPIDEMIC. I'VE
SPENT A GOOD CHUNK OF MY LIFE
SOMETIMES I SAY DOING DRUGS WHAT
IT REALLY MEANS TO BEING
INVOLVED IN DRUG POLICY ISSUES
WHETHER THE PROSECUTOR BEING THE
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF
NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY.
IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME I THINK
OBVIOUS TO MOST THAT MULTIPLE
TOOLS NEED TO BE ENGAGED WITH
RESPECT TO DRUG ADDICTION DRUG
POLICY- I USED TO WORK FOR A
FELLOW NAMED GENERAL BARRY
MCCAFFREY YOU SAY THE MOST
EFFECTIVE TOOL. IN TERMS OF
SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS A
CONVERSATION BETWEEN A PARENT A
CHILD A KITCHEN TABLE WELL THAT
PROBABLY IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE
TOOL BUT THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE
AND THAT'S NOT ALL. AND THAT'S
NOT THE ONLY TOOL THAT'S NOT THE
ONLY TOO CLEARLY TREATMENT IS AN
IMPORTANT COMPONENT. CLEARLY
EDUCATION IS A CRITICAL
COMPONENT. CLEARLY MAKING SURE
THAT THAT THOSE WHO FOR EXAMPLE
SELL- SELL DRUGS THAT ARE LACED
WITH SOMETHING THAT IS FATAL
LIKE FENNEL. THAT DEALING WITH
THOSE FOLKS PARTICULARLY ON
THEIR SECOND OFFENSE IS CRITICAL
NOW. THIS BILL YOU SEEN OTHER
VERSIONS OF THIS BILL BEFORE
THIS IS DIFFERENT THIS IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE EARLIER
VERSIONS YOU SEEN THE DEAL WITH
THE SUPPLY REDUCTION IN TERMS OF
FENNEL. WITH THIS BILL DOES IS
THIS BILL SAYS IF SOMEBODY IS
CONVICTED. OF AN OFFENSE WHERE
THEY HAVE DISTRIBUTED SOLD. A
COMPOUND WITH SENTINEL. IF THEY
PLEADED GUILTY OR IF THEY'VE
BEEN CONVICTED IN THAT NOW THEY
KNOW THAT WHAT THEY DISTRIBUTE
IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THEIR STATE
OF MIND WASN'T DISTRIBUTION THEY
KNOW IT CONTAINS. FENTANYL IF
THEY SELL IT AGAIN AND THEY KILL
SOMEBODY AND THEY KILL SOMEBODY
. AND THAT SUBSTANCE CONTAINS
FENTANYL THEN. EVIDENCE CAN BE
INTRODUCED. THAT DEMONSTRATES
THAT THEY ON A PRIOR OCCASION
HAD SOLD A COMPOUND WITH FENNEL
AND THEY'RE ON NOTICE THERE ON
NOTICE THAT THAT THIS IS A
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IS ACTUALLY
FAIRLY COMMON. IT IS NOT A
CONCLUSIVE PRESUMPTION IT
DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT
THERE IS A CONVICTION IT IS
SIMPLY EVIDENCE OF THE STATE OF
MIND- WE HAVE LIMITED THIS. IN
MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WE HAVE
LIMITED THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT
IT'S NOT JUST THE USER WE'VE
LIMITED TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT
JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S FOR EXAMPLE
AT A PARTY PROVIDING YOU KNOW
SOMEBODY ELSE AT THE PARTY WITH
WITH A PILL- THIS IS FOCUSED
UPON THOSE. WHO ARE SELLING
THOSE WERE TRADING FENNEL FOR
VALUE. NOW THIS IS A TOPIC THAT
HAS CAPTURED ALL OF OUR
INTERESTS THAT I KNOW THAT
EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS
CONCERNED I KNOW THAT EVERYONE
IN THIS ROOM- IS CONCERNED ABOUT
. WHAT WHAT DESCRIBED AS THE
EPIDEMIC. OTHER DIFFERENT WAYS
TO DEAL WITH THAT I'VE DESCRIBED
SOME DIFFERENT STRATEGIES I
THINK THAT ALMOST BE EMPLOYED.
IN THIS CASE ON THIS BILL- IT'S
UNUSUAL IN TERMS OF THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT WE
HAVE. TWENTY CO AUTHORS AND
AUTHORS FROM THE SENATE AND
ABOUT FORTY OVER ALL. THANK THAN
THE NEED IS APPARENT AND- THE
BODY POLITIC IS CRYING OUT FOR
ACTION ON OUR PART- I'M PLEASED
TODAY TO HAVE TWO WITNESSES. WHO
DEAL WITH THIS EPIDEMIC ON A
DAILY BASIS- FIRST SAN DIEGO
MAYOR TODD GLORIA IS HERE AS
THEIR FIRST WITNESS IN OUR
SECOND WITNESSES- THE SAME CISCO
DISK RETURNEE WAS BROOKE JENKINS
. MISTER MAYOR YOU DON'T DESERVE
. THANK YOU THANK YOU SIR THANK
YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE I'M SITTING HERE
TALKING GLORIA I'M PROUD TO BE A
SPONSOR OF SENATE BILL FORTY
FOUR. WHICH CREATE A FUNNEL AND
MANAGEMENT I WANT TO START BY
THANKING THE CAP A LITTLE FAMILY
AND OTHER FAMILIES WHO ARE IN
THE HALLWAY. WHO ARE. FAMILY
MEMBERS WHO HAD OVERDOSED ON
FENTANYL- THEIR PRESENCE HERE
TODAY IS I THINK PARTICULARLY
MEANINGFUL I APPRECIATE THEIR
WILLINGNESS TO SHARE EXTREMELY
PAINFUL STORIES. ABOUT LOVED
ONES HAVE BEEN KILLED BY
FENTANYL IN ORDER TO SAVE LIVES
OTHER FAR TOO MANY OF THEIR
STORIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA FAR
TOO MANY TRAGEDIES. FAR TOO MANY
PARENTS WHO HAD TO BURY THEIR
CHILDREN- SENATE- FORTY FOUR AS
MENTIONED IS KNOWN AS ALEXANDER
LAW. IT'S NAMED. AFTER THE
DAUGHTER OF MATT. LOT OF FROM TO
MAKE. WHO LOST THEIR DAUGHTER.
INTO NINETEEN JUST TWO DAYS
BEFORE CHRISTMAS. ALEXANDER
TAKEN HALF A PILL OF WHAT SHE
THOUGHT WAS PERCOCET AND SHE
PURCHASED VIA SOCIAL MEDIA. THE
BILL SHE BOUGHT WAS ACTUALLY
LACED WITH FENTANYL. AND THAT
HAVE TO KILL KOSTER OVERDOSE.
INTO DIS. ALEXANDER DIED ALONE.
THERE'S NO ONE AROUND TO
MINISTER NOR CAN. HER MOM
FOUNDER SLUMPED OVER HER BED.
FUND FOR MAKE AMERICA. AS IS
SAID IN A PUBLIC SERVICE
ANNOUNCEMENTS ONE PILL CAN KILL.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
IT'S A FENCE NOT IS NOT JUST
LIKE ANY OTHER DRUG. THIS IS A
POISON IS KILLING SIX THOUSAND
CALIFORNIANS A YEAR IT IS SUPER
CHARGING A HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.
IN SYRIA COUNTY JUST FIVE YEARS
AGO WE SAW A FEW DOZEN OF THESE
OVERDOSES. THIS LAST YEAR OVER
EIGHT HUNDRED IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE. LYCETT SENTINEL IS THE
NUMBER ONE KILLER OF UNSHELTERED
SAN DIEGANS IN THE CITY OF SAN
DIEGO NUMBER ONE. AS MAY I SEE
THE IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE DAY
AMONGST THOSE WHO ARE STILL WITH
US. AND WHAT I SEE IS ABSOLUTELY
DISGUSTING. THE BEHAVIOUR AND
CABINETS ARE MORE RADIC. I HAVE
NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT
SENTINEL IS MAKING IT HARDER FOR
US TO ENGAGE THE MOST VULNERABLE
AMONG STARK. RESIDENTS A WHOLE
CITY IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE
INCREASED LEVEL OF STREET
HOMELESSNESS. SENATE BILL FORTY
FOUR IS A MODEST BUT NECESSARY
EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE
PROLIFERATION OF ILLICIT FENCE
AND ALL AND TO HOLD DEALERS
ACCOUNTABLE. I WANNA BE VERY
CLEAR THIS BILL IS NOT FOCUSED
ON USERS IT'S FOCUSED ON DRUG
DEALERS. AND TRAFFICKERS AND ON
REPEAT OFFENDERS. WHO KEEP
DEALING THIS POISON GET PEOPLE
COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN. UNTIL THEY KILL THEM. WE
ADMONISHMENT MAKES THESE DEALERS
AWARE THEIR BEHAVIOR IF IT
CONTINUES CAN LEAD TO DEATH. AND
IF THEY IGNORE THAT. THE FACT
THE MATTER. IS THE HAVE TO FACE
THOSE CONSEQUENCES. INCLUDED
IMPORTANT TO BE HERE TODAY TO
MAKE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE
AWARE. THAT THE DRUG IS RAVAGING
OUR CITIES. AND THAT IS WHY THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AS
WELL AS TEN OF THE LARGEST
CITIES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES AS DIVERSE AS
SAN FRANCISCO SAN JOSE.
PRESIDENT OF COURSE THE CITY OF
SAN DIEGO ALL STANDING IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL FORTY
FOUR. I GREW AGREED WE NEED TO
TACKLE THIS AS A HEALTH CARE
CRISIS IT SURELY IS WE TO MAKE
NALOXONE MORE PREVALENT
AVAILABLE. WE EXPAND EDUCATIONAL
HEALTH RESOURCES TO HELP SAVE
LIVES. BUT THAT CAN'T BE ALL
THAT WE DO. WE CANNOT IGNORE THE
PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE OF THIS
PARTICULAR PROBLEM. AND CONSIDER
DIRECT MESSAGE TO HOLD THOSE
WHO'D STEAL THIS DEADLY POISON
ACCOUNTABLE. AND SO IT'S WITH
THAT IN MIND. AND WITH THE
MEMORY OF ALEXANDER AND SO MANY
OF THE FAMILIES THAT YOU'LL HEAR
FROM TODAY. THE VICTIMS IN THE
MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR YES
VOTE ON SENATE BILL FORTY FOUR
THANK YOU. FOR D. JENKINS. THANK
YOU- THAT MADAM CHAIR AND- OF
LEVEL IT DE IN MID. ON THE SAN
FRANCISCO STREETS AS A RESULT OF
FENTON ALL THIS STAGGERING AND
UNACCEPTABLE. IN THE LAST THREE
YEARS 75% OF THE FOURTEEN
HUNDRED OVERDOSE DEATHS THAT
OCCURRED IN SAN FRANCISCO
INVOLVED SENTINEL. IT IN THIS
JANUARY ALONE WE HAD SEVENTY
EIGHT. OVERDOSE DEATHS. WHAT IS
LEFT OUT OF THE STATISTICS IS
THAT A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE DYING OF OVERDOSE ARE
PEOPLE OF COLOR. ARE BLACK
PEOPLE. THIS IS A PROBLEM OF
EPIDEMIC PROPORTIONS AND AS OUR
COUNTY'S CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO
STAND BEFORE YOU AND ASK THAT
YOU SUPPORT THIS BILL. I HAVE AN
OBLIGATION TO PROTECT LIVES AND
TO FIGHT TO SAVE THE LIVES THAT
ARE ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW.
WHEN I TOOK OFFICE IN JULY OF
THIS PAST YEAR. I TOOK A BOLD
STEP. AND INSTRUCTED OUR
ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TO
GO INTO COURT AND WHEN THEY
WERE. DEALING WITH FEDERAL DRUG
DEALING CASES TO GIVE AN
ADMONISHMENT TO OUR DESCENDANTS
AT THE TIME OF THE PLEASE. THAT
FENCE AND ALL WAS A DANGEROUS
AND DEADLY DRUG IN THAT IT COULD
KILL. WE HAVE SEEN PUSH BACK
FROM OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE. ASKING JUDGES NOT TO
ALLOW US TO GIVE THAT
ADMONITION. AND WE NEED THIS
BILL IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT RIGHT
IN OUR COURTROOMS. NOT ONLY ARE
WE SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDICTED
TO FENTANYL DIED BUT AS YOU'VE
JUST HEARD THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
BELIEVE THEY ARE BUYING OTHER
THINGS. AND INSTEAD ARE BEING
HANDED LETHAL POISON WITHOUT
THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND THEY ARE
DYING. IF WE WENT INTO A BAR. IN
ORDER TO MARTINI. IN THE DEN THE
BARTENDER PUT SOMETHING TOXIC OR
LETHAL IN THAT IN THAT DRINK
THAT WAS HANDED TO US. WE WOULD
EXPECT THAT PERSON TO BE
PROSECUTED FOR THAT POISONING.
IF A DOCTOR. OVER ADMINISTERED
RECKLESSLY. ANY TYPE OF. OPIOID
LIKE FENTANYL. WE WOULD EXPECT
THAT DOCTOR TO BE PROSECUTED. WE
IMPUTE THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT
THEY DID AND THE INTENTIONALITY
OF THEIR CONDUCT AND SAY THAT
THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. WE'VE I'VE
HEARD STORIES OF. COPS WATCHING
DRUG DEALERS TO HELP INTERNAL
USERS WHEN THEY SELL THEM. THAT
POISON AND WATCH THEM USE IT
DON'T DIE. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T
DIE. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS
POISON AND THEY NEED TO BE TOLD
IN A MORE FORMAL WAY SO THAT IT
CAN BE DOCUMENTED WHEN THEY DO
IT AGAIN AND SOMEBODY DIES. THAT
THERE CAN BE A SECOND LEVEL OF
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE DEATHS
AND SO AS THE CHIEF LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE CITY
AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO. I
KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC
WANTS I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT.
THESE PEOPLE NEED. SO THAT WE
CAN STOP WATCHING LIVES TO BE
LOST AND SO IT IS FOR THAT
REASON THAT I ASK FOR YOU TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU. DO
WE HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND THAT YOU
SUPPORT THIS BILL VENTURE AND
OTHER MEMBERS PAUL YODER AGAIN
ON BEHALF OF SAN FRANCISCO MAYOR
LONDON BREED IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. SENATOR SCOTT WILK TWENTY
FIRST DISTRICT IN STRONG SUPPORT
. THANK YOU. CAN STONE STONE
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. NEDRY
JENKINS DRUG INDUCED HOMICIDE
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HEY
SHOWS EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE
RIVERSIDE COUNTY STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. FOR CRISTINA YEAR- WE
MY I DID FROM. PLASTER COUNTY
AND SO SUPPORT AND RESPECT
FASTER I'VE BEEN THINKING. THANK
YOU. LORD CITY REPRESENTING MY
SON ZACH SEVENTY KILLED BY
FUNNELING TWENTY IN STRONG.
THANK YOU AGAIN JUST NAME
ORGANIZATION AND SUPPORT AND
LET'S MOVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER
TALE THANK YOU CAROLYN VASQUEZ
FROM GILROY MOTHER OF JACOB IN
STRONG SUPPORT. IN KATHY MARANDA
FROM L. COUNTY. WITH MY SON
GARRETT MARANDA IN STRONG
SUPPORT. PERLA MENDOZA WITH
PROJECT THE LINE WHAT'S IN
STRONG SUPPORT. MATTHEW GRECO ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION
AND THE SAME BEGINS AGAINST
CRIME IN STRONG SUPPORT. GAIL
STEWARD ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUMMER STEPHAN
. GOOD AFTERNOON NADIA MATURING
IN VENDOR UP ON BEHALF OF SHARE
KELLY MARTINEZ THE NEW COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN SUPPORT
. LAURIE FOR GOALIE MARIN COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. CHRISTINE CAP A LITTLE
MOTHER OF ALEXANDER WHO THIS
LAWS EVEN AFTER ITS STRONG
SUPPORT. MATT CAPITA. BOTHER OF
ALEXANDER CAPITAL AND BE ON
BEHALF OF ALL STATE AND ALL
CUISINE VICTIMS STRONG SUPPORT.
PLEASE MARK. AND UNSTRUNG
SUPPORT I LOST MY ONLY SON. MY
REAL ON BEHALF OF FOR NOW SENT
AND SO. WHAT ROAD FOR DALTON
LISTEN IN VERY STRONG SO. MY
NAME IS LI SIS L. I'M FROM
GARDEN VALLEY CALIFORNIA AND I
HIGHLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
CONSUMER SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA
IN STRONG SUPPORT. CHRISTY
HOFFMAN MOTHER OF CONNOR STRONG
SUPPORT. JOHN HOFFMAN STANISLAUS
COUNTY AND STRONG SUPPORT SUNDAY
TEN OVER THIS. TINA BURKE MOTHER
OF CHRISTIAN TAYLOR MURDERED
JULY NINETEENTH TWENTY TWENTY
I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF SB FORTY
FOUR. POLICE YES MARIO WITH ONE
PILL CAN KILL SACK AND I'M IN
FULL SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
WILLIAMS MY COUNTY. I DON'T FULL
SUPPORT. HI AS DR DONNA SLUSHER
AS- DRUG INTO HOMICIDE I'M IN
STRONG SUPPORT. SENATE WHO THE
LEON RIVERSIDE SHARE SOME ON OF
THIS YOURSELF ENSURE CHAMPION
INTO. MARIA MONTH OF A AND THIS
WAS WHO WHO'S BY FENTANYL IN
FEBRUARY OF TWENTY TWENTY I AM
IN STRONG. AND I ASK THE YOU ARE
IS SUPPORT THANK. CLASSY LEVINE
GUESS I'LL MY SON THE TWENTY- I
STRONG SUPPORT SB. FOUR ARE YOU
RETIRED CHECK ON BEHALF OF THE
ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT. MELENDEZ FROM SOUTH OUR
SUPPORT FOR JACOB MEMBERS.
MICHELLE LEE MARIN MY SON TREVOR
DIED IN TWENTY NINETEEN AND WE
NEED THIS PUBLIC SAFETY STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. A TRICIA
CALASANZ THE SURVIVE FENTON
POISON INDICT. OF SUICIDE USING
FENTANYL I SUPPORT SB. FORTY
FOUR. HE SHARKEY SAN FRANCISCO
MY STEP SON DANIEL DIED TWO
YEARS AGO MS A SUPPORT SB FORTY
FOUR STRONGLY. LARA SAYS
SATURDAY'S HERE ON BEHALF OF
GARDEN FOR CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT
. PUDDINGSTONE CONFIRMING SOME
ELDERLY HILLS CALIFORNIA. BUT
FROM WILL SOON- IN STRONG SO.
YOUR MEMBERS JONATHAN- OF THE
POLICE CHIEFS IN SUPPORT. SURE
MEMBERS RANGE FROM WITH THE
RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S. AND SUPPORT
ALSO IN SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATIONS OF
CLAREMONT CORONA POMONA PALACE
VERDES NEWPORT BEACH UPLAND
SANTA ANA BURBANK MARIA ARCADIA
RIVERSIDE FULLERTON CULVER CITY
MARIN COUNTY DEPUTY SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION IN CLASS KIND UPSR
CESSATION ON SUPPORT THANK YOU.
BREADED UP ON THE OF SHARE LUNA
IN SUPPORT LOS ANGELES COUNTY
THANK YOU. MY NAME'S- CAN DO
KITTEN DARK REPRESENTING A
LESSER MY DAUGHTER AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT. THE NAME TO
STOP MAKE AWFUL OF US MY SON
JACOB STRONG SUPPORT. OKAY
FIFTEEN AUG IN STRONG SUPPORT
FOR MY SON AUSTIN ALL WHO DIED
JUNE. TWO TWENTY. JERRY AUG-
FOR. INMAN'S SO OF THIS. WITH
YOU. JENNIFER MARSH FOR MODESTO
AND I'M SUPPORT SB. FORTY FOUR.
OUR CELEBRATE FROM MODESTO
THANKS FOR SB. FORTY MADAM
CHAIRMAN BOTH ON OF YOU P. S. IN
BROUGH DOUBLED MACRO ASK AS A.
MY NAME IS AMERICA CALL ON
BEHALF OF MY MAYOR WHO ARTISTIC
. WHEN I WAS HIS BECAUSE- I
SUPPORT FORTY FOUR IN PLEASE. I
MAKING CLEAR WROTE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SEEING NO OTHER WAY
HERE IN THIS. OF SORRY TO WE
HAVE INJURY PERRY ON BEHALF OF I
CAN FOR THANK YOU- WILL CONCLUDE
DO WE HAVE ANY WAY AND- YEAH
WARNING WORD OF. THANK YOU. FOR
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR GOOD MORNING
NAME IS DUNK MY THE FOUNDER THE
SOUL FIND A OF ORANGE COUNTY I'M
ALSO ON THE BOARD OF BROKEN A-
CURRENT WE HAVE FOUR HUNDRED
FOURTH SIX HUNDRED MEMBERS
MOSTLY WHO A CHILD LIKE MYSELF.
FOR I'D LIKE TO THE IMMENSE PAIN
AND THE ROOM. WE MAY NOT BE NEW
NIGHT IN POLICY BUT WE ARE UNITE
IN ON IMAGINE HEY. IN TWO
THOUSAND AND TWELVE START TWENTY
VOTES ON TO AN OVERDOSE. AT THE
TIME BEN WAS WITH THREE FOR
THREE FROM THE FEISTY. ONE OF
THE FRIENDS WAS IN A DRUG DRIVER
PROGRAM. FRAZIER BEING
SANCTIONED AND RETURNED TO JAIL
HE WOULD NOT ALLOW THE OTHER TO
CALL NINE ONE ONE. AS THEY
REMOVED BEN'S BODY FROM THE CAR
HIS HEART STOPPED. BY THE TIME I
GOT TO THE CRITICAL CARE UNIT HE
WAS ON LIFE SUPPORT. WHEN BEN
HEARD MY VOICE KIA'S WOULD ROLL
DOWN HIS FACE. HE WAS SUFFERING
FROM A CONDITION CONDITION
DESCRIBED AS LOCKED IN SYNDROME
. EIGHT DAYS LATER AS BEN'S
CONDITION DETERIORATED WE WERE
ADVISED BY PHYSICIANS THAT THE
KINDEST THING WE COULD DO. WAS
TO TAKE OUR SON OFF LIFE SUPPORT
. A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD SON HELD
HIS BROTHER FOR SIX HOURS AS HE
SLOWLY DIED. SHORTLY AFTER BEN'S
DEATH THE NINE ONE ONE GOOD
SAMARITAN LAW WAS ENACTED. AN
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT PEOPLE WERE
DYING BECAUSE THEIR FRIENDS WERE
NOT COURTING NINE ONE ONE. BEN'S
DEATH WAS INITIALLY INVESTIGATED
AS A HOMICIDE. AFTER AUTOPSY WE
WERE ADVISED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
THE DISTAFF WAS DEEMED
ACCIDENTAL. THE THREE PEOPLE HE
WAS WITH HAD NO INTENT TO KILL
OUR SON HE WAS NOT LOADED. THAT
DECISION MAKING WAS CLOUDED BY
FIA. FIA OF INCARCERATION HAD
ONE OF THOSE THREE PEOPLE CARRY
NALOXONE THE OUTCOME WOULD HAVE
BEEN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. I
THEREFORE CREATED TO SOLIS
FOUNDATION TO DATE I'VE
DISTRIBUTED FORTY SIX THOUSAND
DOSES OF NALOXONE. AND RECORDED
OVER. TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
OVERDOSE REVERSALS. IT WAS NOT
HEROIN THAT KILLED BIN THAT
NIGHT IT WAS VIA. FEAR OF
COURTING NINE ONE ONE. FEAR OF
INCARCERATION THE VERY THREAT
THE SP FORTY FOUR WANTS TO MAKE
MORRELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK
YOU TO HAVE ANOTHER LEAD WITNESS
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME'S DAN GOLDSTINE
NICER FOR TWENTY TWO YEARS AS A
POLICE OFFICER INCLUDING A-
EIGHTEEN MONTHS AS A NARCOTICS
SERGEANTS SUPERVISING A MULTI
AGENCY TASK FORCE. I WANT TO
EXPRESS- MY SINCERE CONDOLENCES
TO ALL THE FAMILIES HERE. I'M
ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION
PARTNERSHIP WE ARE A NONPROFIT
GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS WHO SPEAK
FROM FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE
SERVING IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE
COMMUNITIES SAFER BY FOCUSING
PLEASE RESOURCES ON THE GREATEST
THREATS TO PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT I
SPEAK BOTH FROM PERSONAL
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE HAPPY
LOST MY BROTHER TO A DRUG
OVERDOSE. AND THOUGH I
UNDERSTAND WHY LEGISLATORS MAY
BE ATTRACTED TO MORE PUNISHMENT.
OUR ANALYSIS THROUGHOUT THE
YEARS REFLECTS THAT OVERDOSE
DEATHS HAVE INCREASED NOT
DECREASED DESPITE OVER A HALF
CENTURY OF THE MODERN DRUG WAR
THAT CONTINUES TO FOCUS ON
DETERRENCE TO SOLVE A PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS. WE SEE HOW
DESTRUCTIVE OUTDATED DRUG LAWS
CAN BE TO INDIVIDUALS AND
COMMUNITIES. POLICING PROPONENTS
CLAIM THAT SENDING A PERSON TO
JAIL OR PRISON THROUGH DRUG
INDUCED HOMICIDE LAWS WILL TO
TOWARD DRUG SALES AND SAVE LIVES
. WE KNOW TODAY BASED ON THE
LOSS OF OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND
AMERICANS THAT IT DOES NOT. SB
FORTY FOUR WILL PUSH DRUG USERS
FURTHER UNDERGROUND WHILE MAKING
DRUGS MORE DANGEROUS AND
INCREASING VIOLENCE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. POLICING
PROFESSIONALS HERE AND ABROAD
HAVE RECOGNIZE WE CAN NO LONGER
RELY ON A- MEANS TO ADDRESS THE
PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. SAVING
LIVES AND REDUCING CRIME AND
DISORDER CAUSED BY UNDERLYING
PROBLEMATIC DRUG USE ARE NOT
MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. A RESPONSE
THAT WILL ACHIEVE BOTH ENDS
REQUIRES A PARADIGM SHIFT
TOWARDS EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES
THAT CLOSELY LINK. HELP THEM
POLICING STRATEGIES WITH THEIR
MOST IMPORTANT OUTCOMES WHICH IS
SAVING LIVES RATHER THAN FOCUS
ON FAILED ENFORCEMENT POLICIES
THAT HAVE RESULTED IN NON
REGULATED DRUGS. THAT TODAY ARE
CHEAPER WIDELY AVAILABLE AND
MORE POTENT. MANNER YOU CAN WRAP
IT UP WE'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH
THANK YOU IF WE ARE TO REDUCE
OVERDOSES WE NEED TO DESIGN AND
IMPLEMENT TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
DRUG POLICIES. THIS REQUIRES
LAWS THE SUPPORT INNOVATIVE
PUBLIC HEALTH AND JUSTICE
STRATEGIES RATHER THAN RELYING
ON HARSHER PENALTIES TO. DETER
DRUG USE OR TO SEND A MESSAGE
THINKING THIS WILL REDUCE
MORBIDITY MORTALITY. LET'S
RECOGNIZE THAT CONSENSUS THAT
THIS IS THE FIRST A PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS AND NOT A POLICING
CRISIS THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME. I DO WE HAVE ANY
OPPOSING WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
IF SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THAT YOU
OPPOSE. HELLO MY NAME IS A
DEGREE BAR. AND I WOULD WILL
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MARCO GEORGIA MATH OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. GOING BACK ES ELLA BAKER
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN
STRONG OPPOSITION. MY NAME FONG
GOMEZ SOME STRONG OPPOSITION OF
THIS BILL AS A NATIVE AMERICAN
EVEN THE USE OF THE WORD PEYOTE
IN THEIR INFRINGES ON OUR-
RELIGIOUS PRACTICES AT THE HOLY
SACRAMENT IT'S IN THAT LANGUAGE
I ASKED THAT HE BE STRICKEN. WE
SHOULD BE GOING AFTER THE
MANUFACTURERS WE SHOULD NOT JUST
BE GOING AFTER IF YOU CAN
PEOPLE. RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE
SUPPORTS THEY NEED SERVICES
RIGHT WING TO THINK ABOUT THE
STATE THE HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF THE
POLICE STATION. WE NEED TO THINK
ABOUT STATE THE HAPPIER AT
SCHOOL JUST. SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. I'M A MAIN ISSUE IN
MY RIGHT THE SAME WAVES A WHERE
ARE YOU HAVE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE
AG YOU I APPRECIATE IT. THAT OUT
THIS NEXT. JAMES KING ELEVATE
CENTER FOR RIGHTS. STRONG
OPPOSITION. NOT YOUR HERNANDEZ
BEHALF OF THE K. TERMS CAMANCHE
AND. ONE ZERO FROM YOU SEE VERY
AND WORKING AT THE BAKER CENTER
AND I STRONGLY THIS. YOU COULD
TAKE A FURTHER ON BEHALF OF
ACLU. ACTION IN THE. I ONLY SEE
A BENEFIT AS LUIS HERE- AND OFF
. ON OF PAUL'S ALLIANCE. THERE'S
A COUPLE DEFENDER'S OFFICE
INITIATE JUSTICE. YOUR FIRST
HEALTH SISTER WARRIORS COLD. AND
FRIENDS CAN ON THE- CALIFORNIA
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STEVE.
HUSING THE NUMBER CARILLO. THAT
OPENS ONE COULD EN EL ARSES
COULD. AND I'M IN STRONG. IS
STILL. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
NANCY WHO IS AND WHAT THE CENTER
YOU WOULD ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE I
AM STRONG OFFICE. PEYOTE IS
RELIGIOUS FOR. THANK YOU. THE
SURGE AND ALSO JUNIOR STRONG
UPPER. MONDAY IS SERAFINA THE
OTHER AND I'M A STRONG. MY NAME
IS ANTHONY CAN UNDERGROUND AND
ORANGE COUNTY AFTER HOURS CALL.
I AM A STRONG OFFICE. RIGHT MY
NAME IS CARLOS EVAN ON THE SHOW
MEAN FOR KARCHER TO MAKE OF
YELLOW COMMUNITY AND A STRONG IN
OPPOSITE. MY NAME IS GROUP THE
CERRO FROM CA ON ON THE STRONG
OPPOSITION. I WANT TO. MY NAME
IS A BARGAIN CO FROM SENATORS
THE COUNTY IN STRONG OPPOSITION
. THANK YOU I WE HAVE NO OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES HERE IN
THIS ROOM WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE PLEASE
JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF S. B. FORTY FOUR- WE WILL
BEGIN THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE
SATISFIED SUPPORT OPPOSITION OF
SB FORTY FOUR PLEASE PRESS ONE
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL GO
TO LINE FORTY SEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. AT MEDICARE MEMBERS- CARL
LEVIN HERE MAY I CRIME VICTIMS
UNITED QUARTER YEAR. FOUR MY-
GOD ALIVE. NINETY THE SIMPSONS.
FOR A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FROM
YOUR COUNTY DEPARTMENT IN
SUPPORT. ON THE LINE FOR ONE
PLEASE AHEAD. PRESIONAR ORANGE
COUNTY SUPPORT. WHY THIRTY THREE
PLEASE AHEAD. MADAM CHAIR AND
BILLION WE SHOT HERE ON THE OF
CITY OF WEST TALK AND THE CITY
BEVERLY HILLS IN SUPPORT STATE.
YEAH FIND EIGHT PLEASE AHEAD.
DROPPED OUT A FEW OVER ONE
EIGHTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS LISA JIMENEZ IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB FORTY FOUR IN
HONOR OF MY SON J. CANNON. I
WILL GO TO MY NINETY ONE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. CHEN MEMBERS AT LEAST
OUR CITY OF KANO WITH THE LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IN STRONG
SUPPORT. ONE ONE THIRTEEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I KNOW BARGAINS WITH
INITIATE JUSTICE ACTION IN
OPPOSITION. LINE ONE OH FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. TONY CAN GET
POLICY AT THE SAN FRANCISCO
DEFENDER'S OFFICE IN OPPOSITION
. LINE TWENTY SIX PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THE SIMPSONS GROCERY
BROKEN NO MORE STRONGLY OPPOSE.
AN ONLINE SEVENTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THE OTHER A TELEGRAM AN
ATTORNEY FROM LOS ALAMEDA
CALIFORNIA AND I AM STRONG
SUPPORT- ON BEHALF OF MY BROTHER
DON NUCLEAR. ONE EIGHTEEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I AM MEMBERS FOLLOWS
AUTHORED AND MEMORY OF MY
COUNTRY THEN I WAS ALL DAY AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB. FORTY FOUR.
ONE EIGHTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. HI MY NAME IS THE CONTROL I'M
STRONG SUPPORT IN OUR OF EACH IS
. TO LINE OF HUNDRED AND TWELVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME'S
DENISE CALL ON WITH GRASS GRIEF
RECOVERY AFTER SOME PASSED. AND
BROKEN- MORE ANISH AT THIS BILL
. BLIND NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
YES MY NAME IS DON- JORDAN I AM
STRONG IN STRONG SUPPORT IN
MEMORY OF MY BROTHER DOMINIC TO
RUSSIA. LINE ONE ELEVEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME'S JOHN
ORTEGA AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB
FOR AN HONORING OF MY BECAUSE
EACH INDIVIDUAL. LINE ONE OF
THREE PLEASE AHEAD. HI AGAIN
HELLO MY NAME IS VICTORIA-
ARNOLD BY ON LOS AND- REFER
PLEASE SEND OUR INCREASE
SUPPORTER THE F. B. FORTY FOUR.
LINE ONE ALSO PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS THERESA TWENTY EIGHT
YEAR VETERAN OF CHICAGO TO IN
MEMORY OF DAUGHTER'S NIECE AGAIN
I AM AND SUPPORT OF US BEFORE
FOUR THANK YOU. ONE WAY HUNDRED
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS REPORT AND
THE PRESS OF BOY BECOME OF A
LIST DRUGS AND I AM IN SUPPORT.
WINDS FOR PLEASE GO AHEAD. JAMES
JOHNSON COPY. FATHER LATELY DOT
I'M IMPOSSIBLE. LINE WE TEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME'S
NATALIE LIKE A RED FROM A
CALIFORNIA I'M IN OF AB. FORTY
ONE ONE OH NINE PLEASE GO. HELLO
MY NAME IS RUBEN CRY IN THE MAIN
OF MY NEPHEW OUR LOOKS DEALS
STRONG SUPPORT AS. FORTY ONE ONE
SIX GO AHEAD. MY NAME MELISSA
GOOD AND STRONG OF AND FORTY
FOUR ON OF MY A AND TO. ONE ONE
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME
IS LIMING VIA AND I'M AND COURT
AS FORTY FOUR. FOR MY BROTHER IN
. ONE FOUR GO AHEAD. YEAH
COLLETTE AND FIND AN ORANGE
COUNTY AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
BUT STILL FOR- BY BROTHER
DOMINIC. THE MEASURE WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE ACUITAS. THANK YOU TO
ALL OUR WAY WILL NOW BRING TO
DISCUSS BACK TO OF- DO YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS THOUGHTS
. SENATOR CHOI BOGUE. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF THE
STATEMENT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
FOR THE RECORD- WHERE IF I IF I
DON'T AND I WAS REMISS IN NOT
ACKNOWLEDGING IN OCHO BOGUS THE
JOINT AUTHORS WHOSE DEVOTED
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME
ENERGY. AND PASSION THIS ISSUE
SO THANK YOU I THANK YOU- SO
STATEMENT PERSON AND TO
COMMONSENSE- IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT OF
THE ALMOST FIVE HUNDRED O. Q.
DEBTS IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY
PROVENTIL READ INTERNAL RELATED
I REPRESENT RIVERSIDE IN SEVERAL
COUNTIES ALONG WITH SMALL
PORTION OF. OUR BURKE- L. A.
COUNTY. THERE'S OVER EIGHTY PER
IN SERRANO COUNT IN THE SAME
YEAR ALMOST 90% OF THE OF OUR
OPIOID DEATHS WERE FENTANYL
RELATED. THREE HUNDRED FOURTEEN
OUT OF THREE HUNDRED FIFTY FOUR.
THIS IS NOT JUST THE CRISIS HITS
THOSE OF INDIVIDUAL TRAGEDIES.
THIS IS SICK. WE SHARED IS A
CULMINATION OF THOUSANDS OF
GRIEVING FAMILIES PAIN AND
SUFFERING. IT IS CLEAR WE NEED
TO DO MORE TO PROTECT OUR LUCK
WITH. WHICH IS WHY I PARTNER
WITH CENTER OF THE- AUTHOR SB
FORTY FOUR. ALEXANDER LAW WHICH
WOULD REQUIRE. THIRTY BUT IT IS
BY SMITH YOU READ TO THOSE
CONVICTED OF SPECIFIC PENSION
RELATED OFFENSES SEEING THAT
THEIR ACTIONS POSE A THREAT. TO
THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES
AND ADVISEMENT. ADVERTISEMENT
THIS MEASURE ALSO SEEKS TO
EDUCATE OFFENDERS REGARDING THE
CONSEQUENCES THE FUTURE OFFENSES
MAY HELP ON THEIR OWN LIVES. IT
IS HARD TO ARGUE THAT THE
INTERNAL DEALERS DO NOT KNOW
THAT FENTANYL IS DANGEROUS. WHAT
THEY MAY NOT KNOW IS THAT THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. ARE ALREADY
CONDUCTING INDIVIDUALS OF
MANSLAUGHTER. OR MURDER FOR
DEALING DRUGS THAT RESULT IN THE
DEATH OF AN INDIVIDUAL. WITH OR
WITHOUT A LOOKS LAW THIS IS
HAPPENING. WITH THE LEGS UNDER
US LAW WE CAN ENSURE. THAT
OFFENDERS HAVE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF
WHAT REDUCE THEIR ACTIONS KERRY
. LET ME BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT
THE SAME BILL THIS COMMITTEE HAS
HEARD IN PREVIOUS YEARS. WITH
YOUR INPUT WE HAVE NARROWED SB
FORTY FOUR TO ADDRESS VERY
SPECIFIC INTERNAL RELATED
OFFENSES. OUR YOUTH WILL BE READ
THE ADVISEMENT. SO THEY
UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF
THE CRIMES THEY'VE COMMITTED.
BUT THE ADVICE MEANT WILL NOT BE
USED AGAINST THEM. I URGE MY
COLLEAGUES TO TAKE THE NECESSARY
STEPS TO PROVIDE AS MANY TOOLS
TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIALS AS POSSIBLE SO
WE CAN BEGIN TO ADDRESS THE
STRATEGY IN EARNEST. SB FORTY
FOUR ALONE WILL NOT SOLVE THE
FENTANYL POISONING EPIDEMIC. BUT
ALONG WITH INCREASE NOW LOOKS
OWN DISTRIBUTION IMPROVE DATA
COLLECTION AND SHARING AN
EVIDENCE BASED EDUCATIONAL
CAMPAIGNS SB FORTY FOUR WILL
MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AT THE TIME
IT WILL ASK FOR SPECIFIC- IDOL
BUT- WITH THAT I ALSO NOW WITH
MY STATEMENT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THE
AUTHOR FOR THE RECORD. WITH THAT
IN MIND I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN
WITH- I UNDERSTAND WE HAD
SEVERAL WITNESSES TODAY UNDER
THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS BILL
INCLUDES PRIORITY WOULD YOU CARE
TO ADDRESS. THE CONCERNS THAT
PEOPLE HAD WITH REGARDS TO PAY
WOULD BE BEING IN THIS BILL-
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION
SEVERAL JOB OKAY- MA'AM IT'S
ELIMINATE PEYOTE. THANK YOU SO
THE AMOUNT BUT- TO BE CLEAR.
MADE PEYOTE THIS THIS BILL
DOESN'T DEAL WITH. OTHER OPIOIDS
THIS BILL DEALS WITH FEDERAL.
THE CIVIC NARROWED- THE OTHER
QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
TO ADDRESS CONCERNS FOR MANY OF
OUR WITNESSES WELL THIS BILL
AUTHORIZED MURDER OR
MANSLAUGHTER PROSECUTIONS FOR
SPECIFIC DRUG RELATED. OFFENSES
OF THE BILL DOESN'T AUTHORIZE
ANY SORT OF PROSECUTION THAT'S
UP TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR
THE PROSECUTING AUTHORITY- WHAT
THIS BILL DOES IS THE BILL
PROVIDES- EVIDENCE OF A
PARTICULAR STATE OF MIND WITH
THIS RECKLESSNESS OR SOME OTHER
STATE OF MIND. IN A SUBSEQUENT
CONVICTION. FOR UP FOR EXAMPLE
THE SALE OF FENTANYL. THANK YOU.
CENTER BERG- THE OTHER QUESTION
WE HAVE FOR YOU IS WHY WOULD
SOMEONE BE CHARGED WITH MURDER
OR MANSLAUGHTER WHEN AN
INDIVIDUAL CHOSE TO TAKE THE
DRUGS THAT RESULTED IN THEIR OWN
DEATHS. WELL- IF THAT'S THAT'S A
GOOD QUESTION UP. THE QUESTION
FOR US IS A SOCIETAL VALUE IS DO
WE WANT TO IN ESSENCE- WARN
PEOPLE OF THE DANGERS OF
FENTANYL NUMBER ONE TO PREVENT
THEM FROM SELLING OR
DISTRIBUTING FENTANYL. AGAIN AND
THEN NUMBER TWO- IF. THE PERSON
WHO IS PROFITING BENEFITING FROM
THE SALE OF FENTANYL- IF THEY
TELL THAT PERSON LOOK AT YOU'RE
TAKING FELLOW I WOULD EXPECT
THAT THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY
COMMIT SUICIDE BY DOING THAT.
BUT AGAIN THIS IS THIS IS NOT A
CONCLUSORY PRESUMPTION IT STILL
REQUIRES- DEMONSTRATION OF AN
INTENT IN OF FOR EXAMPLE THE
BUYER SAYS I'D REALLY LIKE TO
BUY FEDERAL TO COMMIT SUICIDE.
THAT'S ALSO EVIDENCE AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON
INTENDED THE SELLER INTENDED TO.
KILL THAT PERSON. AND MY LAST
QUESTION FOR THE RECORD WELL
THIS BILL DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACT BLACK AND BROWN
COMMUNITIES. I DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION- I THINK
THAT THERE ARE THERE'S A HUNDRED
TO SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED-
YES IN THE COURSE OF THE LAST
YEAR- I WOULD EXPECT THAT. THE-
THERE'S PROPORTIONALITY AMONG
THE VARIOUS DEMOGRAPHICS- BUT-
CLEARLY THAT'S NOT THE INTENT.
TO LIKE TO ASK. SO WE'RE
ACTUALLY GONNA MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT- IS THERE ANY OTHER SENATOR
THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON
THIS. SENATOR BRADFORD. I WANT
TO THANK THE SENATOR FOR THIS
MEASURE AND I FOR TWENTY FIRST
SYMPATHY TO ALL THE FOLKS WHO
TESTIFIED HERE TODAY WHO LOST A
FAMILY MEMBER. OUR FRIEND TO
THIS INSIDIOUS DRUG- BUT NO. BUT
SIMPLY MAKING IT EASIER TO
PROSECUTE SOMEONE FOR MURDER
WILL NOT ADDRESS FOR SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM. IT WON'T STOP UNTIL
FROM COMING ACROSS THE BORDER AS
WE SIT HERE RIGHT NOW. IT WON'T
STOP TO DEMAND FOR DRUGS- THAT
ARE UNKNOWINGLY LACED WITH
FENTANYL. AND THE FOCUS SHOULD
BE ON CAUSATION. PREVENTION AND
TREATMENT THAT SHOULD BE OUR
FOCUS. AND BUT FOCUSING SOLELY
ON INCARCERATION- WILL NOT SOLVE
THIS PROBLEM. WE'VE SEEN THIS
MOVIE BEFORE. IN THE EIGHTIES
AND THE NINETIES. WITH MASS
INCARCERATION- ZERO TOLERANCE ON
ON THE WAR ON DRUGS. AND THERE
ARE THOUSANDS OF BLACK AND BROWN
PEOPLE DOING LIFE IN PRISON. FOR
SELLING ACCOUNTS OF COCAINE WERE
NO ONE LOST THEIR LIVES. MEMBERS
OF THIS COMMITTEE HAVE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS THAT MAINTAIN. THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL. AS THE
PRESERVED ADMONISHMENT. AND
THAT'S WHAT WE SAID THIS BILL IS
ABOUT ADMONISHMENT. THE
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
PROPOSED WILL MAINTAIN THAT HI
THIS YEAR LAST YEAR DEALT WITH
THE PREVIOUS AUTHOR AND WE
OFFERED UP THE SAME. TYPE OF
AMENDMENTS THAT PROVIDED
DEMONSTRABLE. AND TO FOCUS ON
WHAT THIS BILL IS REALLY ABOUT.
AND THAT'S THE DRUG DEALERS WHO
NORMALLY KNOW THEY'RE SELLING
DRUGS THAT ARE LACED WITH
FENTANYL. AND MISLEAD THEIR
CLIENTELE. THAT THEY'RE NOT
THAT'S THE REAL CRIME BECAUSE I
DON'T THINK ANYONE. IN THIS
CRIMINAL ASPECT WILL KNOWINGLY.
IF THEY HAVE A REGULAR CLIENTELE
OR YOU KNOW WOULD WANT TO KILL
SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING
DRUGS WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS
WHETHER IT'S MARIJUANA COCAINE
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE SO I
THINK. YOU KNOW WITH THE MEMBERS
THAT WERE OFFERING UP I THINK IT
HELPS ADDRESS IT MAINTAINS
INTEGRITY OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO DO WHICH WE ALL AGREE ON THIS
COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED
BECAUSE IT IS. KILLING HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE NOT
ONLY IN CALIFORNIA ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY AND I. WE WANT TO
ERADICATE WE WANT TO END IT BUT-
I THINK THE MEMBERS WILL HELP US
ADDRESS SAID IN AUGUST AND IT
MAINTAINS THE ADMONISHMENT
PORTION OF THIS BILL THANK YOU
SENATOR WIENER WITH. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR- THE THIS. I THINK
THIS IS THE REASON THAT THIS
BILL IN THE SUBJECT MATTER OF
THIS BILL IS SO. PAINFUL IS THAT
WE HAVE A CATASTROPHE ON OUR
HANDS WITH WHAT SENTINEL AND
CARFENTANIL. AND THE OTHER
DENTAL ANALOGS HAVE BROUGHT DOWN
ON THIS COUNTRY- IT IS
ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING WE KNOW
THAT IN SAN FRANCISCO AND I
THANK MY DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR
FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUE SO
INTENSIVELY- WE ARE SEEING SO
MANY PEOPLE. DYING AND I THINK A
LOT OF TIMES THE PERCEPTION IS
THAT THIS IS ON OUR STREETS
WE'VE WE KNOW FROM ALL THE
PARENTS WHO HAVE. BEEN HERE
TODAY AND IN THE PAST THAT IT'S
NOT JUST ON OUR STREETS IS THE
PEOPLE ORDERING ON SOCIAL ON
SOCIAL MEDIA. AND SAN FRANCISCO
AROUND CHRISTMAS LAST YEAR THERE
WERE THERE WERE- GUYS WHO- GOT
BUMPS OF COCAINE THE RELEASE OF
FUNDS ON A FEW OF THEM. DIED
THIS IS HAPPENING IN A BROAD
SWATH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND EVEN
THOUGH THERE ARE A LOT OF
STEREOTYPES ABOUT WHO IS. USING
FENTANYL WHO IS INADVERTENTLY
USING IT EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T
INTEND THE PURCHASER AND WHO IS
DYING THIS IS AFFECTING SO MANY.
ASPECTS OF SOCIETY. AND THE DRUG
SUPPLY IS SO CONTAMINATED. IN A
VERY DIVERSE WAY. NOT JUST HER
WHEN FOR MASS. OF COCAINE AND ON
AND FORTH. FOURTH OF. FAKE
PERCOCET PILLS- IT IS THIS IS A
PROBLEM THAT IS GROWING- AND WE
NEED A LOT OF DIFFERENT
STRATEGIES. TO DEAL WITH THAT I
DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE. KNOWS
THE EXACT ANSWER BECAUSE THIS IS
SO NEW AND EXPLOSIVENESS OF IT
ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST. FEW
YEARS- THIS IS A BE HONESTLY
THIS IS THE KIND OF BILL THAT
NORMALLY I WOULD NEVER EVEN
CONSIDER. SUPPORTING AS CENTER
BRADFORD SAID THE WAR ON DRUGS
HAS BEEN. ALSO A CATASTROPHE. IF
INCARCERATION. BLAME THE DRUGS
WERE A SUCCESSFUL STRATEGY IN
REDUCING DRUGS. WE WOULD
LITERALLY HAVE NO DRUG USE IN
THIS COUNTRY. BECAUSE WHAT AND
CALIFORNIA HELPED LEAD THE WAY.
ON THE WAR ON DRUGS AND IN TERMS
OF EXTREME LEVELS OF
INCARCERATION AND WE STILL. HAVE
PEOPLE USING DRUGS AND WE STILL
HAVE PEOPLE GETTING ADDICTED AND
OVERDOSING AND DYING. AND IT'S
GOTTEN WORSE. EVEN WITHOUT
DENTAL IT'S GOTTEN WORSE RIGHT I
KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE PERSONALLY
IN MY LIFE- BEEN DEEPLY IMPACTED
BY MATH. FOR DECADES NOT UNTIL
METH. WHICH IS ALSO SO EXTREMELY
DESTRUCTIVE AND THE WAR ON DRUGS
AND THREATEN CORPORATION DIDN'T
STOP PEOPLE FROM SELLING IT OR
BUYING IT OR USING IT OR DYING.
WHEN THIS BILL CAME UP IN
PREVIOUS YEARS AND CENTER
MELENDEZ WHO YOU KNOW WAS VERY
STUBBORN ABOUT NOT MAKING ANY
AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL IT WAS
BROADER THAN THIS BILL WE WE'VE-
WE'VE VOTED ON THIS BILL AT
LEAST TWICE THAT. THAT I RECALL
I WANT TO THANK CENTER ON BURKE
FOR AT LEAST YOU KNOW BEING
HAVING SOME FLEXIBILITY IN
MAKING SOME NARROWING
AMENDMENTS. TO THE BILL AND BY
THE WAY ONE AND NO THE
ADMONISHMENT IN THE BILL NOW IS
NOT LIMITED TO FANS AND ALL THE
COVERS ALL DRUGS. THAT'S WHAT
THE LANGUAGE IS OUT ALL DRUGS I
KNOW THAT THE CENTER HAS.
COMMITTED THAT IF THE BILL WERE
TO MOVE FORWARD WHETHER IT'S
TODAY OR ON RECONSIDERATION-
THAT IN APPROPRIATIONS OF THAT
AMOUNT WOULD BE MADE TO MAKE
CLEAR OF THE ADMONISHMENT. CAN
ONLY COME INTO EVIDENCE- WITH-
WHEN IT'S- FIVE. ONE RELATED TO
FENTANYL IF IT'S A FEDERAL
PROSECUTION- BUT I WILL THE
REASON WHY. I CANNOT SUPPORT
THIS BILL TODAY- IS THAT- THE
BILL. THAT THE CONVICTION. THAT
TRIGGERS THIS. ADMONISHMENT THAT
HAS REAL RAMIFICATIONS AROUND
FUTURE MURDER PROSECUTION. IS
NOT LIMITED TO SITUATIONS WHERE
THE PERSON KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE
KNOWN. THAT THE SUBSTANCE
CONTAINS FRONTAL. THIS WILL.
SOMEONE WHO IS SELLING. WHAT
WHATEVER THEY'RE SELLING THAT
HAS NO IDEA AND NO REASON TO
KNOW. THAT THE SUBSTANCE
CONTAINS FENTANYL WILL RECEIVE.
THIS AND MANAGEMENT EVEN IF
THERE WAS NO WAY FOR THEM TO
KNOW- I THINK THAT THAT IS A
HUGE PROBLEM AND THE AUTHOR AND
I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS
CONVERSATIONS VERY LENGTHY COSTS
AND A LOT OF TIME WITH THE
AUTHOR. GLORIA WITH WITH OUR OWN
COMMUNITIES DISTRICT ATTORNEY ON
THIS BILL FAR MORE THAN I PRICE
SPENT ANY OTHER AUTHORS BILL
THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT IS SO
IMPORTANT AND I DO BELIEVE. THAT
THERE NEEDS TO BE. A REQUIREMENT
THAT THE PERSON KNEW OR SHOULD
HAVE KNOWN. OTHERWISE WE ARE
GOING TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FROM
THIS BILL THAT I DON'T THINK ANY
OF THE SUPPORTERS ARE INTENDING-
AND SO IT I WOULD LIKE TO BE
ABLE TO GO FOR THIS BILL TODAY-
AND WITH THAT AMENDMENT AS I'VE
- CONVEYED TO THE AUTHOR INTO
SPONSORS WITHOUT A MEMBER I
WOULD SUPPORT THIS BILL TODAY-
SO FAR THE AUTHOR AND SPONSORS
HAVE DECLINED. TO TAKE THE AYE I
WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS BILL
CONTINUED SO THAT WE COULD- SEE
IF WE CAN WORK THAT OUT SO THAT
I CAN SUPPORT IT IF THE BILL
DOES NOT ADVANCE TODAY THAN I
KNOW THE AUTHOR WILL SEEK
RECONSIDERATION AND I HOPE THAT.
THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT BUT I
JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN. WHY IN
THIS FORM TODAY- I WILL BE ABLE
TO SUPPORT SB FORTY FOUR THANK
YOU SENATOR WOULD YOU BE WILLING
TO TAKE. THE MEASUREMENTS OF ONE
HI DAD THE INDIVIDUAL SHOULD
KNOW AND TO A LIMITED COMPLETELY
TO SENTINEL ALONE SO- AS TO THE
FOR I'M SORRY. AT THAT NUMBER. A
LOT OF YES IT THE CHANCE THE
SECOND QUESTION FIRST YES- WE
DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH. AND I
THINK IT'S CLEAR BUT I'LL MAKE
IT CRYSTAL CLEAR. THAT BOTH THE
PREDICATE CONVICTION REQUIRES-
FENTANYL AS A COMPONENT AND ALSO
THE SECOND CONVICTION. ALSO BE
FOR FENTANYL OR FENTANYL ANALOG-
THAT'S GOOD. AS TO THE ISSUE OF.
KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN FOR
THE SECOND CONVICTION. WHAT WHAT
THIS DOES IS. THIS BILL SAYS
YOU'VE CONVICTED RIGHT YOU'RE
CONVICTED OF DISTRIBUTING
SELLING A SUBSTANCE MAYBE EVEN
THE PERSON DIED OF A FENTANYL.
IN YOUR TOLD. AND YOU NOW NOW
LOOK AT. FENNEL IS CONTAINED IN
MANY SUBSTANCES. AND IF YOU SELL
A SUBSTANCE AGAIN IT CONTAINS
FEDERAL AND SOMEBODY DIES
KNOWING KNOWING ALREADY THAT.
YOU HAVE DISTRIBUTED FENTANYL
THAT THAT. CONVICTION BASICALLY
THAT KNOWLEDGE THAN CAN BE
INTRODUCED INTO EVIDENCE IT IS
NOT CONCLUSORY IT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT THAT OBVIATES ELIMINATES
THE- US FUSION'S ROLE
PROSECUTION'S BURDEN IN
DEMONSTRATING SOME SORT OF
INTENT. I WOULD THINK IT DOES
DEMONSTRATE RECKLESSNESS IF
NOTHING ELSE BUT RECKLESSNESS IS
NOT THE STANDARD FOR EXAMPLE FOR
MURDER SENATOR WIENER YEAH I
JUST WANNA AND I APPRECIATE THAT
WHAT I'VE BEEN. TOLD TO RESPOND-
THIS IS A POISON PILL FOR THE
BILL I DON'T THINK IT AS WE
INITIALLY. ASKED THAT THERE ALSO
BE AN ELEMENTS THE CENTER
SKINNER NICER BROUGHT FOR WE
WERE WANTING. OUT I THINK YOU IN
DIFFERENT CONTACTS WHO WERE
INDIVIDUALLY ASKING YOU TO-
CONSIDER ALSO REQUIRING THAT THE
PERSON PURCHASING I DID NOT
INTEND TO PURCHASE FUNDS AT ALL
AND DID NOT KNOW. YOU RESPONDED
AND I AND I AND YOU WERE I THINK
CORRECT THAT THAT'S NOT THAT
THAT WOULD BE A POISON PILL
BECAUSE REQUIRING A PROSECUTOR
TO PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE
DOUBT WHAT IT WHAT IT TO SEE
WHAT A DECEASED PERSON. I DID
NOT KNOW WAS OF WAS UNREASONABLE
AND SO WE BACKED I- I BACKED
AWAY AND I BELIEVE WE BACKED
AWAY FROM. ASKING FOR THAT- FOR
THAT AMENDMENT BUT I THINK IT'S
ASKING PROSECUTORS TO PROVE.
THAT YOU KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE
KNOWN PROSECUTORS PROVE THAT ALL
THE TIME WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT
CRIMES IN FACT FOR THE ULTIMATE
MURDER PROSECUTION HERE. BATU
PRESUME THE PROSECUTOR WOULD
HAVE TO PROVE KNEW OR SHOULD
HAVE KNOWN FOR THE MURDER
PROSECUTION NOT TO IT. THERE'S
MORE PROSECUTIONS APPROVING ALMA
YOU KNOW. MAYOR BREEDING HER
LETTER YOU USE USE THE WORD
INTENTIONAL- YOU KNOW THIS
ATTORNEY JENKINS TALK ABOUT THE
BARTENDER PUTTING POISON A DRINK
OR- A DOCTOR OVER MINISTRY. THEY
KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND I
FULLY AGREE THAT THAT'S A CRIME
AND IT. SHOULD BE A SEVERELY
PUNISHED. ON I DON'T THINK IT'S
ON READ OR- PILLS THAT THEY KNEW
OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. OTHERWISE
WE'RE GONNA SECURE. WHERE SOME
CALL KID. YOU KNOW CELLS- WHAT
DATE WITH DATA IS A PARKING HAS
NO IDEA HAS FUNDS AND ALL FOR
WHATEVER. TEN BUCKS TO THEIR
COLLEGE CLASSMATE AND THERE AND
THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET- THAT
TRIGGERED- WARNING WHEN THEY HAD
NO IDEA AND NO REASON TO KNOW
UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO SAY
BECAUSE- YOU COULD HAVE SPENT ON
ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO MAKE.
ANY SALE OF DRUGS NO MATTER WHAT
THE CONTEXT POTENTIALLY LEADING
UP TO A MURDER CHARGE WE WANT TO
DO THAT. THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS
BILL I THINK DOES IT WE DON'T
WANT TO DO THAT I DON'T THINK
THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO- THEN
I THINK. THE KNOWLEDGE OR SHOULD
HAVE KNOWN REQUIREMENT IS A
REASONABLE CHANGE OF THE-
MANAGER YES SENATOR- IF YOU
COULD GIVE US A YES OR NO FOR
THOSE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT- HAVE
BEEN KIND OF RAISED A MULTIPLE
TIMES- YOU KNOW I'M HAPPY TO
KIND OF. MOVE THIS ALONG AND
KIND OF HELP BUT- WE'D LIKE AN
ANSWER A LITTLE BIT ON THAT
WELL. I'VE IT THIS IS A VERY
COMPLEX ISSUE AND IT DOESN'T
LEND TO A YES OR NO ANSWER LET
ME JUST EXPLAIN HOW THIS PLAYS
OUT. IF THE BILL IS ENACTED ALL
RIGHT SO SOMEONE IS CONVICTED.
THAT AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THE
BILL'S AMENDED SOME WAS
CONVICTED FOR DISTRIBUTING
SOMETHING WITH FENTANYL. THAT
PERSON NOW KNOWS THEY. HAVE
DISTRIBUTED FENTANYL. IS
SUBSEQUENT. MISTER SALE PURSE
DIES. COMES THE COURT PERSON
SAYS LOOK AT I DIDN'T KNOW I
DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SECOND SAY.
GOOD THAT THIS. ALSO INVOLVE
FENTANYL. THAT POINT INTO OF.
BEING ABLE TO PROVE INTO IF THIS
WERE NOW. PROCESS WOULD BE ABLE
TO SAY WAIT A MINUTE. YOU KNEW
OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BECAUSE YOU
WERE ALREADY INFORMED. BEFORE
THAT YOU WERE SELLING SUBSTANCE
WITH FENNEL. WHAT THE DEFENSE IS
GOING TO SAY IF THIS IS INCLUDED
IS THAT A PREDICATE TO BEING
ABLE TO INTRODUCE THAT- SUBS
THAT THAT PREVIOUS CONVICTION
IS. THAT WAIT A MINUTE THIS IS A
BAD ACT YOU CAN'T INTRODUCE THAT
UNTIL YOU PROVE THE PERSON KNEW
IT. YOU CAN'T INTRODUCED THE
PRIOR CONVICTION UNTIL YOU
PROVE. AS AN ANTECEDENT THAT THE
PERSON KNEW IT AND SO THE US IN
THAT DOESN'T COMMITMENTS IN THE
JUDGE UNLESS THIS LAWS ENACTED
COULD EASILY AND MY GUESS IS
WILL OFTEN SAY. THAT ANOTHER
CONVICTION. IS IT IS. NOT
PROBATIVE BEYOND- SUSIE IT'S NOT
BASICALLY RELATIVE RELEVANT
BECAUSE OF THE PROBATIVE VALUE
DOESN'T OUTWEIGH ITS PREJUDICE.
SECTION THREE FIFTY AND SO THE
BUS. IT UNDERMINES THE BILL THUS
IT WON'T COME INTO EVIDENCE THUS
THE PERSON WHO'S KILLED A
PERSON. IN THE SECOND SALE
BASICALLY IS TREATED AS THOUGH
THERE HADN'T BEEN A PREVIOUS
SALE UP PREVIOUS
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. THAT THEY- WERE
DISTRIBUTING A COMPOUND WITH
FENNEL. SENATOR SKINNER. LIKE MY
COLLEAGUES I. I CAN'T EXPRESS.
THE PAIN THAT ANY FAMILY WHO'S
LOST SOMEONE. TO THIS. HE IS
FAILING TO WORK. AND THAT. THAT
PAIN I KNOW IS. IT DOES NOT GO
AWAY. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
DIFFICULT OF PROBABLY THE MOST
DIFFICULT COMMITTEE TO SERVE ON
. AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION. TO
APPLY THE LAW AS BEST WE
UNDERSTAND IT. I APPRECIATE. THE
AUTHOR'S INTENT TO GIVE THAT
WARNING AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE
ISSUING OF A WARNING I DO NOT
WANT TO HAVE A CIRCUMSTANCE
WHERE AS THE DA FROM SAN
FRANCISCO INDICATED SHE'S BEING.
PREVENTED FROM ISSUING A WARNING
HOWEVER THE WARNING NEEDS TO
REFLECT EXISTING STATUTE. AND IN
ORDER TO BE CONVICTED OF MURDER
ONE MUST HAVE KNOWLEDGE. NOW
PUTTING IN THE MORNING THE STATE
SHOULD KNOW OR SHOULD HAVE
KNOWN. THIS NOT IS NOT A POISON
PILL BECAUSE- IN THAT CASE.
AUTHOR YOU KNOW AS BECAUSE THEY
HAVE RECEIVED THE WARNING THAT
ALONE COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE
THE SHOULD HAVE NO. BUT IT AT
LEAST RESPECTS WHAT OUR CURRENT
STATUTE IS. TO GIVE A WARNING
THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE PUT
IN EVIDENCE THAT DOES NOT
REFLECT. OUR CURRENT LAWS I
CANNOT DO. AND SO I CANNOT
SUPPORT THE BILL WITHOUT THE
AMENDMENTS AND WITHIN MOMENTS
THEN THERE WOULD STILL BE THAT
ADVISEMENT. AND THERE WOULD
STILL BE AS WE KNOW OTHER PEOPLE
OF ALREADY REFERENCED WHERE
THERE'S ALREADY ACHIEVING SOME
PROSECUTIONS ON THIS EVEN
WITHOUT IT WHICH IS LEGITIMATE.
AND POTENTIALLY THIS MAY
INCREASE BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD
DO SO IN THE CONTEXT OF
RESPECTING AND ACKNOWLEDGING
CURRENT LAW. ON. SENATOR DO YOU
HAVE ANY FOUND WORDS TO CLOSE
OUT BUT RESPONSIVE TO CENTER
SKINNER CENTER SKINNER I
APPRECIATE YOUR- INTERACTION ON
THIS BILL YOU'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL
ANALYSIS- THE CHALLENGES IS IF
THAT IS THE PREDICATE TO THE
CONVICTION COMING IN ANOTHER
WORDS THE PROCESS IS GOING TO
PROVE THAT THE PERSON KNEW OR
SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. BEFORE THE
PREVIOUS CONVICTION COMES INTO
EVIDENCE IT BASICALLY UNDERMINES
A WARNING WITHOUT ANY
CONSEQUENCE IS REALLY NOT A
WARNING- SO LET ME LET ME FINISH
MY CLOTHES MAN I'M SURE THANK
WE'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT. ALAMY
ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH CENTER
BRADFORD'S COMMENTS I AGREE WITH
ALMOST EVERYTHING CENTER
BRADFORD HAD TO SAY THAT. THIS
CHALLENGE THE CHALLENGE OF
DEALING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE THE
CHALLENGE OF DEALING WITH THAT
NO WHICH IS NOT JUST A SUBSTANCE
ABUSE ISSUE IT IS AN ISSUE WHERE
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW DON'T KNOW
THEY'RE ACTUALLY. INGESTING
FENTANYL AND PREVENTION AND
TREATMENT AND EDUCATION THOSE
ARE ALL REALLY IMPORTANT EVEN
MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER
TOOL AND- GOLLY GEE WILL BE BACK
WITH TWO OTHER TOOLS HERE- BUT
BUT THIS IS ALSO A TOOL. THIS
TELLS THE PREVENTIVE MEASURES
YOU'VE DEALT DRUGS THAT HAVE
FENTANYL FENTANYL CAN KILL
SOMEBODY. YOU GO OUT YOU SOLD
AGAIN WITH FENNEL AND YOU KILLED
SOMEBODY AT THAT POINT IN TIME-
IN TERMS OF PREVENTION WE'RE
GOING TO PREVENT THAT PERSON
FROM DOING IT A THIRD TIME.
WE'RE GONNA POTENTIALLY
DEPENDING UPON HOW THE
PROSECUTION TAX. PREVENT THAT
PERSON FROM FROM SELLING FEDERAL
A THIRD TIME. SO HAVING SAID
THAT I KNOW WE'VE KICKED THIS
HORSE QUITE A BIT- I OBVIOUSLY
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE- AND I WANT TO ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGE- THE FAMILIES- THE
CAP LOTTO FAMILY- USING THAT
TRAGEDY ALEXANDER'S DEATH TO TRY
TO. TO BENEFIT ALL CALIFORNIANS
ALL THE OTHER. PARENTS ALL THE
OTHERS WHO HAVE SUFFERED THIS
KIND OF TRAGEDY THAT THAT IS
REALLY UNIMAGINABLE IT'S
UNIMAGINABLE THAT KIND OF PAIN.
AND TAKEN THAT TRAGEDY THAT PAIN
AND TRIED TO TURN INTO SOMETHING
GOOD. AMY DUNKLEY- DUNKLE FATHER
ALSO SUFFERED THE TRAGEDY BOB I
UNDERSTAND THAT POINT. BUT I DO
THINK THAT. THIS BILL WILL ACT
AS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE AND
WILL SAVE LIVES I THINK WE HAVE
TO ACT- WE CAN'T INTO ANOTHER
HUNDRED SEVEN THOUSAND. THIS
YEAR THE NEXT YEAR WITHOUT A
COMPREHENSIVE INCLUDING THIS
TOOL A WAY OF ADDRESSING THE
FEDERAL CRISIS ORIGINAL VOTE.
THANK YOU AND SENATOR JUST TO BE
CLEAR YOU WILL NOT BE TAKING THE
TO IN MOMENTS THAT WERE PLACED
ON THE TABLE TODAY. I'M I'M NOT
SURE EXACTLY WHAT THOSE
AMENDMENTS SHOULD HAVE KNOWN AND
LIMITED SENTINEL ANALOG. I
BELIEVE THAT THE HIS BY PLACE IN
AMERICA'S AGREED THAT IF AND
WHEN THE BILL MOVES FORWARD
THOSE EXPLICIT LIMITATIONS OF
FENTANYL ALONG ANALOG HE'S-
THAT'S CORRECT SIR WHEN YOU'RE
CORRECT THAT THAT I HAVE AGREED
THAT SHOULD THIS BILL MOVE
FORWARD- I WILL. LIMIT IT TO
JUST FEDERAL THAT'S CORRECT OKAY
. YEAH BUT NOT BE ABLE OKAY AND
NOT THE OTHER ONE THEY SHOULD
HAVE I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT
THE OTHER ONE IS BUT NOT THE
THAT WAS BUT I THOUGHT BUT BUILT
THE NEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. IN
THE SECOND CONVICTION NO I I'M
NOT ACCEPTING THAT AMENDMENT
CURRENT THANK YOU I DO HAVE A
MOTION. COULD WE HAVE A ROLL
CALL. THE MOTION IS THE FASTER
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR BOB. THE
JOB OF I TO ABOUT I BRADFORD.
SKINNER WIENER. THE VOTE IS
GOING TO SEE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN
SAY. THE VOTE AS ONE ZERO WOULD
YOU LIKE RECONSIDERATION WOOD
THANK YOU THANK YOU. IT'S
GRANTED. AGAIN THESE ARE RIGHT
WE'RE GOING TO RECESS TILL ABOUT
ONE THIRTY- THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND WILL RECONVENE THANK
YOU.
BEGIN WHERE WE LEFT OFF CENTER
WHEN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SB SIXTY
TWO. THANK YOU. I HAD GOOD
MORNING BUT I'M GONNA CHANGE IT
TO GET HAVE TAKEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
AND- MADAM VICE HERE TODAY I'M
PRESENTING SB SIXTY TWO IN
DIRECT RESPONSE THE FEDERAL
CRISIS AND I KNOW YOU JUST HEARD
ONE BILL- BUT IF YOU CAN INDULGE
ME AND HEAR MY SIDE OF THIS TYPE
OF FAT I MEAN OUR SITE OF OUR
VIEWS OF IT- FEDERAL CRASHES IS
DESTROYED THE LIVES OF
CALIFORNIANS OF ALL AGES AND
FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND
IMPACTING OUR NATIONAL HEALTH
AND WELL BEING. ACCORDING TO THE
DATA AND I KNOW WAS MADE WAS
STATED A LITTLE EARLY ON SOME OF
THEM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY ONE THERE WERE OVER
600-080-0402 OPIOD RELATED
DEATHS AND OUT OF THOSE CASES
FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED
TWENTY TWO OF THOSE OVERDOSE
DEATHS CAN BE ATTRIBUTED BACK TO
FAT NOW. DURING THE SAME TIME
THERE WERE TWO HUNDRED TWENTY
FOUR FEDERAL RELATED DEATHS
AMONG TEENAGERS FIFTEEN AND
NINETEEN IN CALIFORNIA OVER. A
TWELVE MONTH PERIOD ENDING INTO
POINT JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
DEATH RELATED OVERDOSES IMPOSING
ACCOUNTED. FOR ONE HUNDRED SEVEN
THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY
FIVE DEATHS NATIONALLY. SAID NO
IS A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING
FACTOR TO THIS ALARMING. SINCE
THE STICKS THE UNITED STATES
DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION
HAS LAUNCHED A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN
AS STATED EARLIER ONE PILL CAN
KILL. AND FOUR MINUTES. TO RAISE
AWARENESS THAT THESE PILLS ARE
DEADLY BETWEEN THE YEARS TWENTY
SIXTEEN TO TWENTY TWENTY JUST AN
ORANGE COUNTY WHERE I REPRESENT
MORE 90% OF MY DISTRICT. IS
THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE OF OVER
16100% FROM TWO HUNDRED THIRTY
NINE DEATH. TWO THREE THOUSAND
EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN. MANY
OF THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF DRUG
DEALERS SELLING COUNTERFEIT.
PILLS CONTAINING FENTANYL. THE
PERSON CONSUMING IS UNAWARE OF
IT. THE RISING DOES OFFEND THE
VICTIMS THESE MANY FAMILY
INCLUDING THE FAMILIES OF THE
VICTIMS ASKING WHO SHOULD BE
HELD RESPONSIBLE HOW SHOULD WE
SHOW THAT AS A SOCIETY THAT WE
WOULD NOT TOLERATE ONE MORE
PERSON BEEN SOLD FENNO AND DYING
IN THE STATE. HOW DO WE SEND
THAT MESSAGE AS PARENTS AS
FRIENDS AND AS NEIGHBORS. AS
LEADERS THAT WE WOULD NO LONGER
STAND BY AS THIS CRISIS PERSISTS
THIS BILL SB SIXTY TWO WERE
LINED THE PENALTIES OF THE FOR
THE POSSESSION OF FENTANYL WITH
THE INTENT TO SELL WITH THE SAME
PUNISHMENT OF COCAINE AND HEROIN
. CURRENTLY IF SOMEONE IS IN
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL A
KILO OF COCAINE OR HEROIN. THE
MINIMUM THEY CAN RECEIVE IS AN
ADDITIONAL THREE YEARS. THIS
BILL IS VERY SPECIFIC. THE BILL
WILL TELL YOU. IT STATED. ON
VERY SPECIFIC WHERE IT IS. ONE
KILO WHICH IS TWO POINT TWO
POUNDS. THE NEXT FOR KILO WHICH
IS FOUR POINT FOUR POUNDS. TEN
KILO TWENTY POINT FORTY POUNDS.
OR TWENTY KILO WHAT FORTY FOUR
FORTY FOUR POINT ONE POUNDS.
THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC IN THIS
BILL WHAT THOSE PUNISHMENT BE.
NOW I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING
. THESE ARE SMARTIES. IF I START
EATING THEM. I'M JUST A LITTLE
HUNGRY OKAY. SO THESE ARE
ACTUALLY SMARTIES. BUSINESS TWO
POINT TWO POUNDS. THIS IS HOW
MANY FAT NO. BUT SOMEONE WOULD
HAVE TO. HAVE IN THEIR
POSSESSION. THE SHOW TO BE
ACTUALLY BE PROSECUTED IN THIS
BILL THE MINIMUM. THIS AMOUNT
WILL KILL FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
PEOPLE HALF OF EACH OF OUR
DISTRICT. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN
MISTAKEN. A USER. VERSUS A
DEALER IF YOU ALLOWED US TO
INCLUDE FEDERAL IN THIS BILL.
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE AND I
KNOW THERE'S ARGUMENTS AND I'M
I'M WITH YOU. WE NEED TO HELP
THE FAMILIES WE NEED TO HELP THE
USERS. I'VE GOT A TEN YEAR OLD.
AND A TWELVE YOU WILL. DO YOU
KNOW HOW MUCH IT BROKE MY HEART
TO HAVE TO TELL MY KIDS. DURING
HALLOWEEN. AND I TO SIT DOWN
WITH THEM AND SHOW THEM SKITTLES
AND SMARTIES. BUT YOU CAN'T EAT
THESE NOR CAN YOU TAKE THEM FROM
YOUR FRIENDS EVEN THOUGH YOU
KNOWN THEM SINCE BIRTH BECAUSE
THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S
COMING FROM. SO THIS BILL WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT. IS A
REPRESENTATION. THAT BAG TWO
POINT ONE KILO TWO POINT FIVE
POUNDS. OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK
LIKE. AS YOU CAN SEE. THIS IS
TOO LARGE OF A QUANTITY. TO BE
MISTAKEN. FOR AN EVERYDAY
AVERAGE USER OR VICTIM. YOU CAN
ONLY SEE IF SOMEONE HAS THAT
AMOUNT. THEY HAVE TO BE A DRUG
DEALER. THOSE WHO POSSESSES THAT
NO WITH INTENT TO SELL. THE
MINIMUM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS
TWO POINT TWO POUNDS IT CAN GO
UP TO. FORTY FOUR POINT ONE
POUNDS. JUST THINK ABOUT TWENTY
OF THESE BAGS. THAT'S FORTY FOUR
POINT. ONE POUNDS. SO I RESPECT
AND UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS OF
SOME OF THE OPPOSITION. BUT I'M
ASKING YOU AGAIN. WE'RE NOT HERE
TO TALK ABOUT THE USERS THE
VICTIMS EVEN IF THE USER HAD A
THOUSAND PILLS. THEY WOULD NOT
BE PROSECUTED UNDER THIS AT ALL
. EVEN IF THEY HAD A FEW MORE
THOUSAND PILLS IN THE POCKET
THEY WON'T BE. BECAUSE IT CAN'T
BE SAID BECAUSE THE BILL WAS SO
NARROW WITH A TWO POINT TWO
POUNDS ONE KILO. OF FAT NO. IT'S
ACTUALLY THE CASE ITSELF IS
EXTREMELY RARE. AND WE NEED TO
DO MORE WE NEED MORE ADVOCACY IN
TERMS OF AWARENESS AND EDUCATION
FOR THE VICTIMS FOR THEIR FAMILY
AND TO HELP THOSE. WHO WANTS TO
GET HELP. AND WE ALSO NEED TO
THOUGH. HOLD THOSE WHO GONNA
KILL HALF A MILLION PEOPLE.
ACCOUNTABLE. SO I'M ASKING YOU
TODAY IS. THE BILL AGAIN GO
DIRECTLY AFTER DEALERS AND
TRAFFICKERS WHO ARE IN
POSSESSION OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF
FAT NO. I KNOW THAT LOOKING AT
THE BAG. YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE
HERE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. CAN
NOT MISTAKEN. ANYBODY CARRYING
THAT AS A USER VERSUS A DEALER.
WE ARE FACING. A SITUATION THAT
WE WILL HAVE TO THAT WILL
CONTINUE TO SPIRAL OUT OF
CONTROL UNTIL WE TAKE A SERIOUS
LOOK AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE
LAST. SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN
HERE. THERE'S MORE MORE BILLS ON
FAT NO THE CRISIS IS NOT GOING
AWAY. AND THERE'S BIPARTISAN
BILLS TO. WE HAVE TO DO. HAVE
EVERY APPROACH JUST LIKE SENATOR
ROBERTS SAID. IT'S MULTIPLE
APPROACHES. SO THAT WE CAN STOP
THIS PANDEMIC. BECAUSE WHAT'S
THE POINT THAT NOW IS THAT TEN
YEARS OLD LIKE MY CHILDREN. ARE
NOW DYING ON FAT NO AS WELL. I
DON'T WANT THAT TO BE ME. AT
ALL. SOME ASK YOU TO PLEASE
CONSIDER THIS BILL AND AT THIS
TIME WE HAVE. SERGEANT JULIAN
CHRISTIAN FROM THE SAMBAR DINO
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
ALSO NADA NADA JENKINS- WHO WILL
BE A WITNESSES MEDICARE THANK
YOU. LEAD TO AN S. YEP FOR TWO
MINUTES ONLY. GOOD AFTERNOON
COMMITTEE CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS JULIE IS CHRISTIAN I'M
LIEUTENANT WITH THE SAN BENITO
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. FOR
THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN BEEN A
SIGNET INFLUX ON DANGEROUS NEW
DRUGS INTRODUCED INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES. SENATE BILL SIXTY
TWO WOULD STEM THE INFLUX OF
THESE DRUGS BY ADDING FITTON ALL
TO A CATEGORY OF DRUGS THAT
PROVIDES ADDITIONAL DETERRENCE
BASED ON THE WEIGHT AN
INDIVIDUAL POSSESSES FOR SALE OR
DISTRIBUTE DISTRIBUTION. IN
RECENT YEARS FITTON ALL A
POWERFUL CHEAPLY PRODUCED
SYNTHETIC NARCOTIC HAS FLOODED
THE ILLICIT DRUG MARKET. DUE TO
THE STREET TO FIT NOW
DETERMINING DOES SIZE IS
NOTORIOUSLY DIFFICULT FOR USERS
LEADING. TO AN INCREASE IN THE
LIKELIHOOD OF AN OVERDOSE. NO IS
EXTREMELY POTENT AND FAST ACTING
IF INHALED OR INGESTED. A DAILY
DOSE OF FOOD NO COULD BE AS
LITTLE AS TWO MILLIGRAMS. IT IS
FIFTY TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN
HEROIN AND ONE HUNDRED TIMES
MORE POWERFUL THAN MORPHINE.
CURRENTLY POSSESSION OF LARGE
SCALE AMOUNTS FROM OVER A KILO
TO OVER EIGHTY KILOS OF COCAINE
CRACK AND HEROIN ARE ELIGIBLE
FOR ENHANCEMENT PUNISHMENTS
UNDER LAW. BUT FITTING ALL WHICH
IS FIFTY TIMES STRONGER THAN
HEROIN IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THAT
INCREASED PUNISHMENT. ACCORDING
TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
HELD STATE WIDE FIT NO DEBTS
INCREASED TWO THOUSAND TWO
HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR PERCENT.
FROM TWO HUNDRED THIRTY NINE IN
TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN. TO FIVE
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED TWENTY
TWO IN TWO THOUSAND TWENTY TWO.
BEHIND EACH OF THESE STATISTICS
IS A STORY OF A LIFE LOST TO
SOME. BY ADDING FIFTY NO AS ONE
OF THE SELECT CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES FOR WHICH POSITION OF
EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS IT'S TREATED
MORE SERIOUSLY. SENATE BILL
SIXTY TWO CORRECT THIS OUTDATED.
THE OVERSIGHT AND PROTECT
PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC AND
INTANGIBLE WAY WHILE PROVIDING
THE COURTS WITH CLARITY ON THIS
ISSUE. SENATE BILL SIXTY TWO
CORRECTS A DISPARITY IN THE LAW
THAT TREATS THE TRICKS THE
TRAFFICKING OF FENTANYL AS A
LESSER OFFENSE THE TRAFFICKING
DRUGS LIKE COCAINE AND HEROIN.
ALSO SENATE BILL SIXTY TWO DOES
NOT TARGET LOW LEVEL DEALERS FOR
THOSE WHO OCCASIONALLY FURNISH
THE DRUG. THE BILL DIRECTLY
TARGETS LARGE SCALE DISTRIBUTORS
OF THE DEADLY SUBSTANCE WHO
POSSESS A KILO OR MORE WHICH IS
APPROXIMATELY APPROXIMATELY TEN
THOUSAND PILLS AND EQUATES TO
APPROXIMATELY. THIRTY SIX
THOUSAND TO NINETY TWO THOUSAND
DOSAGES. THE BILL SIXTY TWO A
MAN'S HELP IN CODES. SECTION ONE
ONE THREE SEVEN ZERO POINT FOUR
TO INCLUDE FIT AND ALL IN THE
CATEGORY OF DRUGS LIKE HEROIN
AND COCAINE. THAT ARE SUBJECT TO
ENHANCEMENTS BY WEIGHT. BY DOING
SO THIS BILL TARGETS DOES
DISTRIBUTING TRAFFICKING AND
SELLING MASS QUANTITIES OF FIT
ENOUGH NOT THE OFTEN
UNSUSPECTING IN USER. OPPONENTS
OF THIS BILL OFTEN ARGUE THAT
PENALTIES FOR DRUG SALES
REPRESENT A FAILED WAR ON DRUGS
MENTAL MENTALITY. THEY DO
NOTHING TO DETER SUCH CONDUCT
BUT THE OUTPOURING OF FIT NOW
ONTO OUR STREETS IN THE PAST
YEAR TELLS ANOTHER STORY.
DEALING TO FIT NOW IS MORE
PROFITABLE THAN DEALING HEROIN
OR COCAINE BUT THE PUNISHMENT
FOR THESE FOR THESE DEALERS IS
LOWER. BUT FULLY HOLDING
ACCOUNTABLE THOSE THAT SEEK TO
PROFIT FROM THE ILLICIT SALE OF
FOOD AND ALL WE CAN REDUCE THE
PRICE OF THE PRESENCE OF THIS
DRUG IN OUR COMMUNITIES. FOR
THOSE REASONS I THINK THE
SUPPORT SB SIXTY TO AN URGENT
VOTE THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT MY
SON JUSTIN. JUSTIN WAS THIRTY
YEARS OLD AND TODAY MARKS TWO
YEARS OF THE DEATH OF OUR SON TO
FENTANYL POISONING. AND I WANT
TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IT WAS
TO BE A CELEBRATORY DAY JUSTIN
WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TAKING
MY- MY HUSBAND HIS DAD OUT FOR.
A WONDERFUL BREAKFAST HIS
FAVORITE PLACE A LITTLE PLACE IN
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CALLED
MOLLY'S. AND YOU KNOW IT DIDN'T
HAPPEN THAT WAY JUSTIN DIED. AND
IT WAS REALLY VERY VERY BAD
DEATH AND I CAN TELL YOU AS A
PARENT. TO LISTEN TO A BODY BAG
ZIP UP. ON A DATE THAT SHOULD
HAVE BEEN OF A WONDERFUL DAY.
WITHOUT ANYTHING ANY PARENT ANY
PARENT SHOULD EVER EVER HAVE TO
LISTEN TO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO
READ YOU A LITTLE SOMETHING THAT
WAS WRITTEN BY- OUR DAUGHTER.
WHO IS JUSTIN SISTER ONLY
SIBLING. AND SHE WROTE THIS- YOU
KNOW WHEN HE PASSED. JUST TO
KNOW WHO JUSTIN WAS. JUST IT WAS
A SON A BROTHER UNCLE GRANDSON
AND FRIEND. I TRULY SPECIAL
HUMAN BEING THAT LEFT A TRAIL OF
BELLY LAUGHS AND BRIGHT EYED
SMILES IN HIS WAKE. JUSTIN HAD A
MAGNETIC PERSONALITY HE WAS
DEEPLY INTUITIVE EMPATHETIC AND
FUNNY. HE CAN READ THE ROOM IN A
HEART BEAT AND YOU EXACTLY HOW
EACH PERSON FELT. EVEN AS A
CHILD HE ALWAYS KNEW WHEN A
LOVED ONE'S HAVING A BAD DAY AND
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO SAY TO
MAKE THAT PERSON FEEL MUCH
BETTER. NO MATTER THE AGE
EDUCATION OR INCOME LEVEL JUSTIN
CAN MAKE ANYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE
AND HAD AN EXTREME SENSE OF
ALTRUISM. HIS MILLION DOLLAR
SMILE LIT UP THE ROOM IN THOSE
EYES HIS EYES DANCE LIKE THE
MORNING SUN. AND EVEN IN HARD
TIMES AND IT WAS ACTUALLY OUT TO
MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH IN STITCHES
WITH THIS JOKES AN INCREDIBLE
IMPRESSIONS. MOST PEOPLE KNEW
JEFF AS A ABOUT. BUT WHAT WAS
TRULY SPECIAL ABOUT JUSTIN WITH
HOW TO USE HIS ATHLETIC GIFTS TO
HELP CHILDREN. WHEN HE COACHED
CHILDREN'S TENNIS IN HIGH SCHOOL
HE WAS MUCH MORE THAN COACH. AND
AFTER EACH LESSON THOSE TINY
TENNIS PLAYER PLAYERS WOULD RUN
AT. THE JESS AND HUG HIM AROUND
HIS KNEES THEY WERE SIMPLY
BEAMING WITH CONFIDENCE AND JOY.
AS THE YEARS WENT BY HE EMBRACES
ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND HAD DREAMS
TO PURSUE AN INSURANCE AND REAL
ESTATE CAREER TO FOLLOW IN HIS
PARENTS FOOTSTEPS. IN IN
ADDITION HE HAD EXTRAORDINARY
TALENTS IN ART ACTING AS WELL
AND AS AN INCREDIBLE VOICE. HE
LOVED MUSIC AND GOOD FOOD
ESPECIALLY SU CHI SUSHI OF
COURSE ANYTHING WITH CAKE BATTER
AND RAINBOW SPRINKLES. YES IT
MAY HAVE ONLY HAD THIRTY YEARS
ON THIS PLANET BUT HE HAD AN
IMPACT. HE NEVER MISS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS HIS LOVE
TO HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS. AND
DALY CALLED EVERYONE TO JUST SAY
HE LOVES YOU. WE WILL MISS YOU
JESSIE J. WHICH WAS YOU KNOW HIS
LITTLE. NAME WE ALWAYS CALL THEM
AND- I WANT TO JUST EXPRESS THIS
TO YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING I WAS
HERE FOR SB FORTY FOUR YOU KNOW.
THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT. IS
JUST NOT STOPPING- AS A BEREAVED
PARENT WHEN THIS INITIALLY
HAPPENED. I IMMEDIATELY RAN TO
THE CORONER'S OFFICE. AND I
WANTED TO KNOW. THE THIRTY DAYS
PRIOR IN THIRTY DAYS AFTER I
WANTED TO KNOW THE STATUS OF
FENNEL POISONINGS WITHIN A FIVE
MILE RADIUS. AND TO MY
UNBELIEVABLE SURPRISE THERE WERE
A HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN. THIS
IS ALL WITHIN A LITTLE AREA. OF
LAGUNA GAL CALIFORNIA. AND THAT
WAS. TO YEARS AGO. AND IT'S
CONTINUE TO SKYROCKET. SO I'M
HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS BILL
FOR SENATOR INYO AND- AND PLEASE
PLEAD AND ASK FOR YOU TO REALLY
REALLY TAKE THIS. VERY VERY
SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IT IS TRULY
TRULY TRULY AN EPIDEMIC. AND IT
NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. SO IT
STARTS WITH US WE NEED TO ALL
WORK TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO
MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. AND WE DO
NEED A CALL TO ACTION. THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK. THANK YOU. I DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MADAM CHAIR COURSES ONLY HALF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. ANYBODY
ELSE. PERLA MENDOZA WITH PROJECT
DELIGHT IN STRONG SUPPORT. HE
SHOWS WITH DRUG INDUCED HOMICIDE
FOUNDATION STRONG SUPPORT.
OPPOSITION WITNESSES PLEASE
COMPORT. TWO MINUTES. GOOD
AFTERNOON GOING BACK ISRAEL
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. I
WOULD SUGGEST THAT WERE IN THE
WRONG COMMITTEE. THE SOLUTIONS
FOR THE FINANCIAL CRISIS ARE NOT
IN PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE THERE
AND- HEALTH BUDGET SUB COMMITTEE
AND THEY'RE HEALTH COMMITTEE.
THIS BILL WOULD APPLY THE SAME
PENALTIES FOR POSSESSION OF A
KILO OR MORE OF COCAINE OR
HEROIN FOR ANY AMOUNT OF
FENTANYL FOUND IN A KILO OF
PRODUCT. I THINK ANY OBSERVER OF
AMERICAN DRUG MARKETS IN
CALIFORNIA MARKETS WOULD SAY
THAT THE ENHANCEMENTS DIDN'T
REDUCE THE AVAILABILITY OF
COCAINE OR HEROIN. WHAT DOES NOT
MAKE SENSE TO BUILD A FAILED
POLICY. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE
APPLICATION OF LAWS THOUGH THEY
APPEAR REYES NEUTRAL IN THEIR
WRITING OR OVERWHELMINGLY IN
FORCE AGAINST BLACK AND LATINO
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA SO WE
SHOULDN'T BUILD A FAILED POLICY
THAT ALSO WAS RACIALLY DISPARATE
IN ITS NEGATIVE IMPACT. THE
RESEARCH ISN'T ON THE SIDE OF
THIS BILL EITHER. THE NATIONAL
ACADEMY OF SCIENCES ENGINEERING
AND MEDICINE PUBLISHED A FOUR
HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR PAGE
STUDY WRITTEN BY OVER TWENTY
SCHOLARS ABOUT THE EXISTING
RESEARCH ON MASS INCARCERATION
WHAT WAS THE FINDINGS OF TWENTY
YEARS OR MORE OF RESEARCH ON
LONG SENTENCES INCLUDING
SPECIFICALLY DRUG SENTENCES
WHICH ARE A MAJOR DRIVER OF MASS
INCARCERATION IN THE UNITED
STATES. THE FINDINGS WERE THAT
THEY DID. VERY LITTLE IF
ANYTHING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC
SAFETY BUT THEY ARE INJURIOUS TO
FAMILIES THE FAMILIES OF THE
INCARCERATED AND INJURIES TO
COMMUNITIES THERE ARE OVER
POLICED WHERE MOST OF THE BLACK
AND LATINO FAMILY MEMBERS COME
FROM. THAT'S WHAT THE RESEARCH
SAYS WE DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD
WE JACK UP SENTENCES. ALSO I
SUGGEST THAT WE NEED TO BE IN
BUDGET COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE
COST OF SENDING ONE PERSON TO
PRISON FOR ONE YEAR IS A HUNDRED
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S
FOR ONE YEAR. THE COST OF
METHADONE FOR ONE YEAR IT'S
PROBABLY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND
THE COST OF MOVING ÓRDENES
APPROXIMATELY SIX THOUSAND
TICKETS AND TWENTY FIVE PEOPLE
TO METHADONE TREATMENT. FOR
TWENTY FIVE PEOPLE TO MOVE NORTH
IN TREATMENT AND THAT WOULD HAVE
A POSITIVE FACTOR IN SAVING
LIVES AND REDUCING OVERDOSE.
THIS SENDING ONE PERSON FOR MANY
PEOPLE TO PRISON FOR MORE YEARS
WILL NOT HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT
THAT'S WHAT THE RESEARCH SHOWS
US THAT'S WHAT YOUR OWN
EXPERIENCE. HAS SHOWN. FRIEDMAN
IS MORE INVESTMENT WE HAVE TO
INVEST IN HARM REDUCTION
TREATMENT WHICH SAVES LIVES. AND
I'M SORRY THIS BILL WASTE MONEY.
WASTE TIME HELD MAINLY AWAY
SLICE. MARCO GEORGE ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION- I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE PAINS THAT
EVERYONE HAS AROUND THIS. I
THINK ALL OF US HAVE LOST
CLIENTS FRIENDS AND FAMILY
MEMBERS TO OVERDOSES. BUT I ALSO
WANT TO SAY. AND ECHO MISTER
BACCHUS HIS CLIENT COMMENTS- THE
WAR ON DRUGS. DIDN'T WORK. WHAT
IT WAS IN SOME RESPECTS WAS THE
FULL EMPLOYMENT FOR LAWYERS. I
WAS HIRED OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO
. IN NINETEEN EIGHTY SIX WITH
WAR ON DRUGS MONEY. BUT IT
DIDN'T END. IT MADE THE HARMS
THAT- MISTER BACCHUS REFERENCE
BUT IT ALSO- STOLE MONEY THAT
COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR
GENUINE. HARM REDUCTION MENTAL
HEALTH. HOUSING EDUCATION. REAL
PUBLIC GOODS WERE STARVED WHILE
THE PRISONS WERE BUILT. AND AT
THE END OF THE DAY DRUGS WERE
CHEAPER AND DEMAND REMAINS THE
SAME. THERE IS ANOTHER WAY.
ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES THEY HAVE FORMULATED A
RESEARCHED BASED STRATEGY THAT
THEY HAVE ACTUALLY FOUND WORKS.
IT FOCUSES ON IMPROVING ACCESS
TO ADDICTION PREVENTION
TREATMENT AND RECOVERY SERVICES
. INCREASING THE NUMBER I'M NOT
SURE BUT THEY'RE FALLING GO DOWN
. NOW DO YOU NOT HEAR ME IT JUST
DOESN'T SOUND AS AS LOUD AS A
WOULD YOU LIKE IT BETTER IF I
SAY YES OKAY I'M ACTUALLY ALMOST
UP AGAINST THE GLASS BUT HAPPY
TO DO THAT- SO NOT ONLY.
IMPROVING ACCESS TO AN ADDICTION
PREVENTION BUT THEN CREASING THE
AVAILABILITY OF OVERDOSE
REVERSING DRUGS AND I KNOW THAT
THIS SESSION AND THERE ARE SOME
BILLS BEFORE THAT WILL COME
BEFORE YOU THAT THAT. BUT THE
OTHER THING THAT WE HAVEN'T
TALKED ABOUT THE SUPPORTING
CUTTING EDGE RESEARCH IN THE
TREATMENT OF PAIN OPIOID USE
DISORDER AND ASSOCIATED
CONDITIONS. AND I WANT TO SAY
THAT AS POLICY MAKERS YOU HAVE A
DECISION TO MAKE. THE M. JOURNAL
OF AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
SAYS A FAILURE TO SHIFT THE
LEGISLATIVE FOCUS TOWARD
EVIDENCE DRIVEN POLICY
IMPLEMENTATION. IN THE FICTIONAL
ERA WILL LIKELY BE CATASTROPHIC
IN TERMS OF AVOIDABLE. OVERDOSE
DEATHS. S. POLICYMAKERS YOU MUST
DECIDE WHETHER HE WILL GO BACK
TO THE WAR ON DRUGS. ARE YOU
WILL FOLLOW THE SCIENCE AND
RESEARCH AND SAVE LIVES
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NO
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
WILL NOW CONTINUE TO- ANY-
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT A POST
OFFICE IN OPPOSITION HEARING
ROOM. 210-024-2020 TWO HUNDRED
SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON JIM
WEINBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
OF CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION.
MOSAIC IS OTHER ON BEHALF OF THE
FEEL YOU CALIFORNIA ACTION IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON AGENT
OF GRIFFITH WITH INITIATE
JUSTICE AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU FOR. GOOD
AFTERNOON STEVEN MICHAEL
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN OPPOSITION.
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. SB SIXTY TWO. THIRTY
NINE WILL NOW AND CONTINUE TO
OUR WITNESSES THAT WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
OR IS PLEASE- JUST AT YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION-
MODERATE LINE ONE FORTY SEVEN
SORRY MODERATOR. IS GONNA.
TWENTY ONE. RANDY PERRY WITH
POOR AFTER IT UP US OF BILL I'M
SORRY. ONE ONE FORTY FOUR GO
AHEAD PLEASE. GREAT GREAT JOB ON
BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF. THIS BILL. I'M SURE
THAT'LL FOR THE CALLERS IN QUEUE
TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. THANK YOU
MR MODERATOR- IN THANK YOU TO
ALL OUR SUPPORT IN A POSITION
WITNESSES WILL NOW BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO OUR MEMBERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBER
DISCUSSIONS. SENATE TO A BOOK
I'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE
AUTHOR. SO IT'S INTERESTING
BECAUSE WE- WE'VE HEARD MANY
COMMENTS TODAY WITH REGARDS TO-
THE WAR ON DRUGS NOT BEING
EFFECTIVE AND THE FACT THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE FOR FOCUS ON IT AND
DATA DRIVEN IT POLICY. ON THAT
END I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE- THIS IS
ONLY MY THIRD YEAR IN THE SENATE
AND- I SEEN THE TYPE OF POLICIES
HAVE BEEN PROMOTED AND PASSED
THROUGH HERE- I WOULD LIKE TO
HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE NOTION
THAT. M. THIS BILL WOULD SOMEHOW
. BE GEARED TOWARDS AB ONE. AS A
WOMAN IS AN IMMIGRANT WOMAN-
THAT IT IMPACTS
DISPROPORTIONATELY- BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITIES AND NUMBER
TWO- THE NOTION OR THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS AIMED
AT. USERS PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY
NEED TREATMENT AND THE
DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN NEEDING
TREATMENT TREATMENT AND THOSE
FOR CARRYING THAT AMOUNT OF.
FENTANYL THAT COULD KILL
POTENTIALLY FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE- YOU KNOW HALF
OF OUR DISTRICTS. THANK YOU
MADAM VICE CHAIR SO ACTUALLY I
WAS JUST. I FORGOT TO MENTION
THIS BAG ITSELF IS ONLY THREE
HUNDRED SMARTIES. AND SERGEANT
BECAUSE MCMAHON CHRISTIAN
MENTION THAT ONE KILO IS
ACTUALLY TEN THOUSAND PILLS.
JUST THINK OF. THIRTY OF THESE
BAGS IN FRONT OF ME INSTEAD IS
WHAT ONE KILO WOULD BE. THE BILL
ITSELF. IS NOT TARGETED AT ALL
TWO USERS. OR TO THOSE WHO ARE
SEEKING FOR EMERGENCY CARE AND
THOSE AROUND THEM. WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT IN POSSESSION OF
TEN THOUSAND HILLS. THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE EVEN THIS ONE BAG IF
YOU WERE PROCESS OF THIS ONE BAG
YOU WERE. SAY YOU'RE THE VICTIM
YOUR USER I HAD THIS ONE BACK
YOU WOULD NOT BE PROSECUTED
UNDER THIS BILL AT ALL YOU WOULD
HAVE TO BE CARING TEN OF THESE
BAGS. YOU COULD BE CARING FIVE
THOUSAND PILLS ARE YOU WON'T BE
PROSECUTED. BECAUSE THE BILL
ITSELF AGAIN TARGETS
SPECIFICALLY. ONE KILO WHICH IS
TWO POINT TWO POUNDS. AND SO THE
BILL ITSELF. YOU COULD NOT
MISTAKEN A USER VERSUS A DEALER.
WHEN AN OFFICER SHOWS UP. TO THE
HOUSE. ONE LAST QUESTION MA'AM-
AND THAT'S FOR THE WITNESSES
THAT AND- THE SPOKE IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL I'M KIND
OF CURIOUS TO KNOW IF YOU'RE-
JUST TO HEAR THOUGHTS ON THE
FACT THAT. THIS IS NOT FOR.
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF
TREATMENT BUT PEOPLE FOR
CARRYING THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD
COULD LITERALLY KILLS YOU KNOW
HALF A MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES- WITH REGARDS TO
THIS PARTICULAR FAILED NOT
INTENTIONAL AS A WHOLE BUT- THIS
PARTICULAR BILL. THANK YOU
CENTER- I'M A COP KIDDING I'M
THE PARENT OF TWO YOUNG PEOPLE.
WHO I CONSIDER PRECIOUS AND AT
RISK BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN THE
UNITED STATES AND THERE'S A LOT
OF DRUGS UNITED STATES NOW. THIS
BILL ISN'T MY TESTIMONY WAS
ABOUT HOW DO YOU SPEND PUBLIC
DOLLARS YOU SPEND IT AS- THE-
EXPERT FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER
SAID BUILDING PRISONS AND
PUTTING PEOPLE IN CELLS OR DO
YOU SPEND IT ON TREATMENT. YES
THAT'LL A LOT OF DRUGS BUT
PUTTING SOMEONE AWAY FROM THE
THREE YEARS OR TEN YEARS FIFTEEN
YEARS WILL NOT REDUCE THE
AVAILABILITY OF DRUGS ON THE
STREET THAT'S WHY WE SUPPORT
DEMAND REDUCTION BY SUPPORTING
TREATMENT NOTS WE WANT TO
DOLLARS SPENT WE DON'T SPENT ON
THINGS THAT DON'T WORK. VISIT
HELP. YES AND. BUT TO HER END TO
THE AUTHORS AND SHE'S TRYING TO
FIND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE
ARE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH
SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD
KILL. THAT MANY PEOPLE IN IN ANY
OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE IT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED MASS MURDER. KILLING
THAT MANY PEOPLE. WE ARE
CURRENTLY EMAIL SEEING A LOT OF
POLICY IN THIS COMMITTEE WITH
REGARDS TO LIMITING THE USE AND
THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS-
BECAUSE OF MASS MURDERS AND
MURDERS ARE COMMITTING COMMITTED
IN OUR- IN OUR IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND YET THIS PARTICULAR BILLS
THAT IS AIMING TO- ADDRESS
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CARING
ENOUGH TO KILL. POTENTIALLY HALF
A MILLION PEOPLE. IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT. THERE'S TWO
THINGS THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY
WHICH IS ONE OF YOUR WHICH I
TAKE TO MEAN PUNISHMENT.
PUNISHMENT DOES NOT CHANGE THE
AVAILABILITY OF FEDERAL OR
COCAINE OR HEROIN OR
METHAMPHETAMINE ON THE STREET SO
WE DON'T SUPPORT SPENDING THINGS
ON THINGS THAT DON'T WORK WE
SUPPORT SPENDING ON THINGS THAT
WILL WORK IN THAT BECAUSE DRUG
TREATMENT. MARGOT AND TO THAT
POINT SIR I COMPLETELY AGREE
WITH YOU I BELIEVE IN TREATMENT
I REALLY REALLY DO. BUT I DO
BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE
HAVE TO BE COMPELLED TO. BE PART
OF A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THEM TO
HAVE ACCESS TO AND- TO TREAT MEN
TO SELF IMPROVEMENT CLASSES AND
UNLESS THERE ARE YOU KNOW FOR
MANY INDIVIDUALS UNLESS ARE
INCARCERATED. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE
ANY OTHER MOTIVE OR COMPELLING
REASON TO PURSUE THOSE TYPES OF
TREATMENTS OR PERSONAL CLASSES
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS.
AND AS A MATTER FACT I HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH US
SEVERAL INCARCERATED PEOPLE
WHICH I FOUND TO BE AN ABSOLUTE
AND LIGHTNING AND THE BLESSING
TO HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY
HERE THEIR PERSONAL STORIES. AND
I ASKED HIM I SPECIFICALLY ASKED
THE GROUP OF THE COURSE THAT WE
WERE SPEAKING TO. I SPECIFICALLY
ASKED THEM. IF IT HAD NOT BEEN
FOR THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
THAT HAVE BROUGHT HIM TO THAT
POINT IN THE MIND YOU THAT
INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE SPEAKING TO
WE'RE SERVING LIFE WITHOUT
PAROLE. AND I SPECIFICALLY
WANTED TO KNOW ASTBURY SKIT AT
QUESTIONS BUT ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS. HAD IT
NOT BEEN FOR- PERSONALLY I MEAN.
GO BACK I ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY
. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN
INCARCERATED HAD YOU NOT BEEN
GONE THROUGH THE YEAH THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THEY
BROUGHT YOU TO THIS POINT. WOULD
YOU. WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN
COMPELLED TO TAKE- CLASSES AND-
AT AND- S. SELF IMPROVEMENT
WHERE WHERE THERE WAS- ANGER
MANAGEMENT- FURTHERING THEIR
SCHOOLING. OR AND TAKING CLASSES
SIGNED AND ANY ANYTHING THAT
THEY HAD TO DO WITH SOMETHING
PREVENT. AND THEY ALL SAID NO
THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN EITHER
DOING WHAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY
DOING- COMMITTEE THE CARS OF
THEIR PREVIOUSLY DOING. OR DEAD
. AND SO IT WAS THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT AND THEY
KIND OF ALLOW THEM TO HIT
BASICALLY QUOTE UNQUOTE. ROCK
BOTTOM AND COMPEL THEM THROUGH
THE CLASSES AND THE OF
OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN AND SELF
IMPROVE WITH IN THAT SYSTEM. TO
BE COMPELLED TO TAKE THOSE
CLASSES SO. TO YOUR POINT.
EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT BUT
UNLESS WE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
MEANING PUT IN A SYSTEM WHERE
YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMPELLED TO
WANT TO HAVE THOSE SELF
IMPROVEMENT IT'S NOT GOING TO.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUST OUT OF
THE BLUE ONE DAY GO YOU KNOW
WHAT I THINK I'M GOING TO START
DOING THIS THERE'S NOT A
COMPELLING REASON TO. HUGE REPEL
THEM TO GOING THAT PATHWAY SO
TWO POINT I DO BELIEVE IN
TREATMENT I REALLY REALLY DO BUT
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT UNLESS
THERE'S A SYSTEM WHERE WE PUT
PEOPLE IN A PLACE WHERE THEY
FEEL LIKE- JEEZ YOU KNOW WHAT. I
AM TO HIT ROCK BOTTOM I'M NOW
GOING TO BE COMPELLED TO WANT
TO. TAKE UPON MYSELF THESE
CLASSES ARE BEING PROVIDED TO ME
WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT I MEANT
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING
RIGHT SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU.
BUT HOW ARE WE GONNA THESE
ENDED. TO TAKE THESE. CLASSES
AND SELF IMPROVEMENT OR
TREATMENT IF WE DON'T PUT THEM
IN A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS HIM TO
GO INTO THAT PROCESS. AND BE
COMPELLED TO DO THIS. THANK YOU
SENATOR ON SENATOR SKINNER. I
THINK THAT THE ANSWER. PERHAPS
IT THERE ARE AND WANT ME TO. THE
QUICK. GOT QUESTION. WITH THERE
WAS A PERSON THERE BY THE WAY.
THANK YOU IN THE IN THE
AGGREGATE THE RESEARCH THAT
INCARCERATION NOT REDUCE THE
AVAILABILITY OF DRUGS IN SOCIETY
AND THAT. AND THAT THERE'S A
BETTER INVESTMENT YOU'RE ASKING
HOW TO COMPEL PEOPLE. GOOD
EDUCATION GOOD JOBS IN THE
COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK
MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND TREATMENT
IN THE COMMUNITY YOU CAN'T HAVE
ALL THOSE THINGS IF YOU'RE
SLOGGING UP YOUR BUDGET
INCARCERATIONS. AGREED ON THAT
POINT OF EDUCATION BECAUSE THAT
IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE DID
AGREED. TALK ABOUT A THAT IT
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION WITH YOU I THINK
THE RECORDS BUT TO THE POINT
THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT
THESE INDIVIDUALS. SELF ADMITTED
THAT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THIS
INCARCERATED SYSTEM THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE IN THE BRUNCH THAT POINT
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
COMPELLED TO DO THE SELF
IMPROVEMENT AND THAT'S A POINT
THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE THANK
YOU THANK YOU SENATOR SENATOR
SKINNER. THANK YOU DEAR- I
WANTED MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
WHAT WE'RE DEBATING. FENTON ALL
SOLD IN THE WAY THAT. OUR
AUTHORS DESCRIBING. IS ILLEGAL
RIGHT NOW IT IS ILLEGAL THEY'RE
BOTH FEDERAL LAWS IN CALIFORNIA
LAWS IT IS AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE
OF COURSE THERE IS A MEDICAL USE
OF FENNEL. AND WHEN IT IS USED
IN THAT WAY BY. MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS PRESCRIBE TO
SOMEONE IT IS NOT ILLEGAL
HOWEVER. IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES BE
DESCRIBED IT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL.
AND THERE ARE MEN AND FELONY
LEVEL AND MANY STATUTES ON THE
BOOKS. WHAT IS BEFORE US IS A
QUESTION OF ENHANCEMENTS. AND
THE- WHILE IT CERTAINLY COULD
OCCUR THAT SOMEONE MIGHT SELL.
THAT QUANTITY OF FENDALL PURE
FENTANYL THIS IS THE EXAMPLE
YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR
ALREADY FEDERAL LAWS. THAT
GOVERN SUCH A QUANTITY OF
FENTANYL. IN MOST CASES THE SOUL
WHAT IS SOLD. IS THESE OTHER.
SUBSTANCES LACED WITH FENTANYL.
AND IF ANY OF THOSE SUBSTANCES
PARCEL LACED WITH FENTANYL THEY
WOULD RECEIVE THE ENHANCEMENT
THAT IS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO WE
UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS BEFORE US.
THANK YOU SENATOR WINNER. I JUST
WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT-
POSSESSING FOR SALE OR TRANSPORT
INSERTED CETERA. AS SINISTER
NOTED AND AS YOU KNOWLEDGE
CENTER IS ALREADY ILLEGAL IS
PUNISHABLE DEPENDING ON
CIRCUMSTANCES BETWEEN TWO AND
FIVE YEARS IN STATE PRISON- SO
WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT
CRIMES THAT ARE LIKE MULTI YEAR
POTENTIALLY EVEN FIVE YEARS- OF
INCARCERATION THIS IS ABOUT
WHETHER IN A PILE YEARS ON. IN
TOP OF THE ON TOP OF THAT IN
CALIFORNIA- YOU KNOW WE'VE-
WE'VE PASSED IN THE EIGHTIES
NINETIES CENTER LIKE HEART LIKE
MAYBE A HUNDRED AND FIFTY OR
SOMETHING ENHANCEMENTS AND SO
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE GOT TO
THE POINT WHERE WE WERE LIKE A
HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND
PEOPLE OUR STATE PRISON SYSTEM.
HUNDRED EIGHTY THOUSAND- MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WAS RULED TO BE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL SPENDING MORE
ON PRISONS AND WE SPENT ON THE
UC SYSTEM IN CSU SYSTEM WHICH
WAS A MORAL INDICTMENT OF OUR
STATE WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD
TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT WE'RE NOW
UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE
INCARCERATED- AND- AND WE TALKED
TO I AGREE THAT. SOME PEOPLE WHO
ARE USING DRUGS- MAYBE I SHOULD
GET OUT OF THERE- YOU KNOW ME.
MAY MAYBE THEY MAYBE. AND
PRESERVATION DOES. CHANGE- I
THINK THAT'S TRUE SOME PEOPLE
NOT FOR. PROBABLY NOT FROM. OF
FOR SOME PEOPLE- IF YOU'RE
SOMEONE FOR TEN FIFTEEN TWENTY
YEARS. THAT'S THAT'S NOT HOW YOU
CHANGE SOMEONE'S LIFE AS HELL
YOU COMPLETELY DESTROY SOMEONE'S
LIFE AS A SOCIETY- AND SO IF THE
GOAL IS TO TRY TO GIVE SOMEONE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO REHABILITATE
THEMSELVES. YOU CAN DO THAT AND
A LOT SHORTER THAN SOME OF THE-
ENHANCEMENT. LEVELS AND THE
YEARS AND OF COURSE THE RATIONS-
LISTED FOR THIS BILL- SO. WHAT I
APPRECIATE- YOU KNOW WHAT THE
AUTHOR IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE. I
JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS
THE WAY TO ACHIEVE I'VE NOT
SUPPORTED THIS BILL IN THE PAST
AND I WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT
TODAY. THANK YOU SENATOR WHEN
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. THE
THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN
THE- WORD. THIS BILL TARGETS.
SPECIFIC VERY SPECIFIC TWO POINT
TWO POUNDS. IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY
A USER WOULD BE CARRYING TEN
THOUSAND PILLS- IT'S NOT IN ANY
WAY OF PROMOTING WHAT HAS BEEN
IN THE PAST. THE PASS WAS ABOUT
COCAINE HEROIN MORPHINE NOT
ECCENTRIC BUT WE HAVE A
DIFFERENT CRISIS TODAY AND THAT
CRISIS IS FENTANYL. ONE PILL
WILL KILL. SOMEONE IN POSSESSION
BUT ONE KILO WILL KILL A MASS
MURDER. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD
CONSIDER THEM TO BE. HALF A
MILLION PEOPLE. WE EACH YEAR
REPRESENT A MILLION RESIDENTS
FORTY MILLION IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS FORTY OF US. HALF OF MY
DISTRICT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
BILL IS ALL ABOUT IS THAT PUT
THESE INDIVIDUALS SPECIFICALLY.
THE DRUG DEALERS WHOSE CARING
TEN THOUSAND PILLS. NOT FIVE
THOUSAND NOT A THOUSAND HE HAS
TO CARRY A THOUSAND A YEAR NOT
BUSTED FOR THIS THIS IS VERY
SPECIFIC AND VERY NARAL. VERY
FEW WOULD ACTUALLY BE. A
PROSECUTOR FOR THIS YEAR RIGHT
YES IT IS ILLEGAL. BUT IT'S NOT
GOING WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND
BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL. THEY'RE
NOT PROSECUTING ALSO THAT MANY
BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT. SO I'M
ASKING YOU TODAY IS THIS IS NOT
A WAR. ON THOSE WHO ARE USING.
AND THE VICTIMS YOU SAW THIS
MORNING AND TODAY. THEY'RE NOT
JUST BLACK AND BROWN. THEIR
YELLOW LIKE ME ASIAN. THERE ARE
. A COMMUNITIES THE GIVEN AND
THE GAL VERY AFFLUENT VERY
WEALTHY. THEY'RE IN ARTESIA.
HEAVILY LATINO IN MY DISTRICT.
VERY POOR AREAS AND VERY RICH
AREA IT DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE.
WHAT ZIP CODE YOU LIVE IN. IT
DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE WHAT COLOR
YOUR SKIN IS DOESN'T
DISCRIMINATE WHAT GENDER YOU ARE
EITHER. ANYBODY WHO IS IN
POSSESSION OF TEN THOUSAND PILLS
. THAT'S THE MINIMUM THE OTHER
ONE IS. TWENTY KILO. FORTY FOUR
POUNDS. THAT COULD KILL MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL
IS ADDING FAT NO IN. LIKE
COCAINE AND HEROIN. BUT IF YOU
LOOK AT FEDERAL SPECIFICALLY
IT'S VERY NARROW AND IS VERY
SPECIFIC BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT
OF FAT NO IS SO MUCH SMALLER.
AND SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. WE'RE ALL IN
AGREEMENT WE NEED MORE TREATMENT
I'M ON HEALTH COMMITTEE. AND I
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE IT IS NOT
A WASTE OF MY TIME IS NOT A
WASTE OF MY MOM MY EFFORT NOT A
WASTE OF THOSE WHO FLEW UP HERE
FLEW ACROSS THE STATE TO COME
AND TESTIFY. AND IT'S DEFINITELY
NOT A WASTE WHICH IS SAFE TEN
THOUSAND PEOPLE I MEAN HALF A
MILLION PEOPLE. SO NO IT'S NOT A
WASTE I'M SORRY ALL DUE RESPECT
TO THAT COMMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF
THESE BILLS IT'S NOT GOING TO
STOP. IT'S JUST GOING TO
INCREASE AND THERE'S MORE MORE
BI PARTISAN EFFORT. IN THE PAST
SEVEN YEARS AGO IS USUALLY ONLY
THE REPUBLICAN SECURITIES IT'S
NOT ANYMORE WE'VE GOT A
PANDEMIC. AND I'M ASKING YOU
JUST LOOK AT IT MORE SPECIFIC IN
THAT AGAIN GOING BACK TO IS THE
MINIMUM IS TEN THOUSAND PILLS
THIS IS ONLY THREE HUNDRED
SMARTIES. THE THIRTY THREE OF
THESE BAGS- AND IF I HAVE THAT
YOU WOULD KNOW THAT I'M NOT A
USER HI MORTON THE USER SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU-
CLOSING THAT ARGUMENT DO WE HAVE
A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. RECALL
ROLE. SB SIXTY TWO MOTIONS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. BOB NOW
WE HAVE NO WHICH ABOUT I TO
ABOUT AYE BRADFORD. SKINNER
WIENER NO. INTERNET I JUST WANT
TO ASK A FEW. VOTERS WANTED TO
WOULD YOU LIKE A RECONSIDERATION
YES MA'AM THANK YOU THANK YOU
FOR. YEAH. CENTERED IN YELLOW.
SENATOR YOU ARE PRESENTING ON SB
THREE SIXTEEN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. USE ME-
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. CREATE
THE CONSIDERATION TO PRESENT. SB
THREE SIXTEEN I ALMOST SAID AB
CERTAIN HABITS ARE HARD TO. STOP
THIS BILL IS- ALSO CO AUTHORED
BY- A SENATOR OCHO A BOGEY AND-
SENATORS JOAN- JONES YEAH AND-
SEYARTO AND WILK- THIS BILL.
WOULD LET VOTERS DECIDE IF THEY
WOULD LIKE TO RESTORE PENALTIES
FOR SERIAL THEFT BY PLACING IT
ON THE NOVEMBER BY TWENTY TWENTY
FOUR BALLOT IT WOULD LET VOTERS
DECIDE. I'M NOT THE FIRST PERSON
TO BRING THIS ISSUE FORWARD AS
I'M SURE YOU KNOW AND I STRONGLY
SUSPECT I WON'T BE THE LAST YOU
SEE IN A UC BERKELEY STUDY FROM
FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR. 78% OF
VOTERS SAID CRIME HAD INCREASED
OVER THE PAST YEAR AND 65% SAID
IT HAS WORSENED IN THEIR LOCAL
AREA AS WELL AS 59% 59% AND
THAT. OF POLL SUPPORTED AMENDING
PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN. WHEN
VOTERS APPROVED PROP FORTY SEVEN
IN TWENTY FOURTEEN TO ENSURE
THAT OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
FOCUSED ON VIOLENT AND SERIOUS
OFFENSES I SUSPECT THEY WERE
REALLY NOT AWARE THAT THIS
CHANGE WOULD LEAD TO THIS
INCREASE IN RETAIL THEFT.
PERHAPS INFLUENCED BY THE
PROPOSITIONS TITLE IN SUMMARY-
TITLE STATEMENT OF SAFE
NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS ACT.
THE CURRENT LACK OF SUFFICIENT
PENALTIES TO DETER SERIAL THEFT
HAS LED TO AN ONSLAUGHT OF
REPEAT OFFENDERS COMMITTING
MULTIPLE PETTY THEFT VIOLATIONS
. RECENTLY JUST LAST WEEK IN
FACT I ATTENDED A MEETING OF
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MY
DISTRICT. AND THERE WAS A LAW
ENFORCEMENT PANEL THAT CONSISTED
OF POLICE AND SHERIFFS FROM
ROSEVILLE FOLSOM YUBA CITY EL
DORADO COUNTY AND PLASTER COUNTY
THEY ALL. ALL OF THEM REPORTED
INCREASES IN SHOPLIFTING IN
SHOPLIFTING ROSEVILLE IN
PARTICULAR REPORTED INCREASE IN
OF NINETY FOUR PERCENT. FROM
TWENTY TWO TO TWENTY ONE
CONTINUING THE TRENDS OF RECENT
YEARS. ANECDOTALLY IN MY
DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AT A SAFE WAY
IN FERRO OAKS WHICH IS MY WHERE
I LIVE. HAVE TURNED TO
REPORTERS. TO SHINE LIGHT ON
THEIR STORY BECAUSE THEY FEAR
FOR THEIR SAFETY. THEY CLAIMED
RECENTLY THAT THEY MUST CONTACT
THE POLICE OR SECURITY ALMOST
EVERY NIGHT THIS WAS IN A
NEWSPAPER ARTICLE IN ONE
INCIDENT WHERE EMPLOYEES ASKED
INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE CAUGHT
STEALING TO LEAVE. THE THIEVES
PROCEEDED TO ATTACK AND INJURE
THE EMPLOYEES. HAVE ANOTHER SAFE
WAY IN ARDEN ARCADE- THE
SHOPPERS SHOPPERS RECOUNTS
SEEING THIEVES CASUALLY AND
PREPARE AT LADY COMING INTO
STORES WITH BAGS. GOING BACK TO
THEIR CAR. AND REPEATING THE
PROCESS. LAST YEAR A STORE CLERK
IN SAN JOSE SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE
READ ABOUT THIS CONFRONTED THE
THIEF IN A LIQUOR I'LL- RATHER
THAN RUNNING. THE THIEF PULLED
OUT A GUN AND KILLED THE CLERK.
A LIFE WAS TAKEN FAMILY AND
FRIENDS MOURN AS SOMEONE LOST
THEIR LIFE. OVER A BOTTLE OF
LIQUOR. VOTERS ARE NOT BLIND TO
THIS AND WANT TO SEE CHANGE
ACCORDING TO A TWENTY TWENTY
THREE NFIB A POLL 89% OF
RESPONDENTS SUPPORTED A
CONTINUED EFFORT TO REPEAL
PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN. A
RECENT P. P. I. C. SURVEY FOUND
THAT NEARLY THREE IN EVERY FOUR
CALIFORNIANS BELIEVE RETAIL
THEFT IS AN ISSUE. THAT NEEDS TO
BE ADDRESSED. THE SAME SURVEY
FOUND THAT MORE THAN 80% OF
LATINOS AND AFRICAN AMERICANS
BELIEVE CRIME IS AN ISSUE IN
THEIR COMMUNITY. THAT PERCENTAGE
WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN
FOR WHITE AND ASIAN COMMUNITIES
. ACTUALLY IT MAY BE THAT CRIME
NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY GREATER.
THAN THAT WHICH IS REPORTED.
BECAUSE OF A LACK OF
ACCOUNTABILITY. IF APPROVED BY
THE VOTERS SB THREE SIXTEEN
WOULD ALLOW A PERSON WHO'S BEEN
CONVICTED THREE OR MORE TIMES OF
PETTY THEFT. GRAND THEFT OR
OTHER THEFT RELATED OFFENSES AND
IS SUBSEQUENTLY CONVICTED
CONVICTED OF THE PETTY THEFT TO
BE CONVICTED OF A FEDERAL FELT
FELL IN THE EXCUSE ME. WE NEED
ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES TO THE FOR.
REPEAT OFFENDERS AND SAVE OUR
BRICK AND MORTAR STORES FROM
COLLAPSE. NOW I HAD A TWO
WITNESSES WITH ME. FORMER
SHERIFF JOHN MCGUINESS- AND A
LOCAL TALK SHOW HOST BUT HIS
TALK SHOW BEGINS ON KFBK AND
ABOUT TWENTY MINUTES SO HE
COULDN'T STAY- BUT- I DO HAVE-
MARKETS GO GOMEZ WHO PRESIDENT
AND CEO OF A LOCAL SMALL
BUSINESS CALIFORNIA CLOTHING
RECYCLERS. TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF
OF SB THREE SIXTY. THANK YOU AND
LEAD WITNESS YOU ONLY HAVE TWO
MINUTES OKAY. AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS- AGAIN I AM
THE OWNER OF CALIFORNIA CLOSELY
RECYCLERS I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS
FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS. I'M ALSO
HERE REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
WHICH I'M A BOARD MEMBER AND THE
LOCAL SACRAMENTO HISPANIC
CHAMBER WHICH I'M A MEMBER- I'VE
HAD INCIDENTS IN MY WAREHOUSE
I'VE HAD OF THEM BREAK THE FRONT
DOOR GLASS COME IN. AND STEAL
OFFICE EQUIPMENT I'VE GOT A
CONTAINER IN ONE OF MY YARD IT
HAS A BOX STEEL BOX WHERE THE
LOCK GOES UNDERNEATH AND YOU
CAN'T. YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW CUT
THE LOCK BUT SOMEHOW THEY GOT IN
THERE THEY PICKED IT THEY GOT IN
THE CONTAINER. INSTALL THINGS
OUT OF THE CONTAINER I HAVE
THESE. CUT THE FENCE GET INTO
MIGHT CUT THE BACK FENCE INTO MY
NEIGHBOR'S YARD. WHOSE THEY
BUILD HOUSE TRUSSES. THEY TOOK
THE FORKLIFT. HE DID IN THE MUD
AND THEN THEY JUST MADE A MESS
OF EVERYTHING IN THEIR YARDS.
ANOTHER ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS A
CONCRETE CONTRACTOR THEY DIDN'T
EVEN BOTHER TO BREAK THE DOOR
THEY JUST TOOK THE GLASS OUT OF
THE DOOR WHEN HIS SHOP. AND THEY
TOOK ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE
HAD AND HE SAID THEY COULD
START. CONCRETE BUSINESS THE
NEXT DAY WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT
THAT THEY HAVE. IT'S BECOME A
PROBLEM AND IT'S BECOME A BIG
PROBLEM YOU KNOW- I WAS IN THE
SAVE MART FEW WEEKS AGO. AND I'M
CHECKING OUT AND I SEE THE IN
THE STORE CLERKS ARE LOOKING
TOWARDS THE DOOR. YES I HAVE
SINGLE WHAT'S GOING ON. HE SAYS
THAT GUYS GET READY THE DART OUT
THE DOOR WITH A- GROCERY CART
FULL OF GROCERIES. THANKS ARE
YOU KIDDING IS NOT AND THEN ALL
OF A SUDDEN I SEE ANOTHER CLERK
RUN AFTER HIM. BIG GUY WASN'T
AFRAID. GRABBED THE CART AND
BROUGHT IT BACK- THIS IS A IT'S
A BIG ISSUE IT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED YOU KNOW I'M GETTING
TIRED OF. HAVING TO DEFEND MY
PLACE- I DON'T PARK MY TRUCKS
OUT. IN THE END IT OUTSIDE
APARTMENT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY
DOESN'T LIKE ME TOO. BUT I'M NOT
GOING TO LEAVE OUT THERE SO YOU
KNOW. SO THEY CAN BREAK INTO.
YOU KNOW SO. WITH THAT I SUPPORT
THIS BILL AND- I HOPE YOU ALL
SUPPORT IT AWESOME. THANK YOU
THANK YOU. I DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER- SUPPORT WITNESSES IN THE
AUDIENCE. MADAM CHAIR DAVE. ON
BEHALF OF YOU YOU KNOW TEAM
AFTER NETWORK A COALITION OF
TEN. LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE
ACROSS FOUR COUNTIES IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. BENCHER COURCELLES ONLY HALF
OF. THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE SAN
DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
ASSOCIATION. AS WELL AS THE SAN
DIEGANS AGAINST CRIME THANK YOU
CAN TRANSPORT. ANY OTHER
SPEAKERS. ALRIGHT WE WILL BE
MOVING TO OPPOSITION SPEAKERS-
ANY LEAD OPPOSITION SPEAKERS YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND SENATORS
MY NAME IS A LITTLE. TIME WITH
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND WE ARE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO SB
THREE SIXTY. SB THREE SIXTEEN
GESTURES TOWARDS A CONTINUING
FAILED NARRATIVE AND PUSH FOR
THE DESTRUCTIVE TOUGH ON CRIME
POLICIES OF THE PAST. SB THREE
SIXTEEN INTENDS TO CHARGE
NONVIOLENT CALIFORNIANS WITH
FELONIES AND TAKE US BACK TO A
TIME WHERE PUNISHMENTS WERE NOT
COMMENSURATE WITH THE OFFENSE AN
OVERLY PUNITIVE MEASURES WITH
THE ORDER OF THE DAY. WELL I
HAVE WITNESSED THE COSTLY RESULT
OF BELIEVING WE CAN INCARCERATE
OUR WAY OUT OF CRIME THE SOCIAL
PROBLEMS THAT UNDERGIRD THESE
ISSUES WE SEEK TO ADDRESS CANNOT
BE SOLVED WITH A JAIL OR PRISON
CELL. POVERTY HOUSING INSECURITY
LACK OF ADEQUATE MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES UNEMPLOYMENT SUBSTANCE
USE SEPS UNEMPLOYMENT DUE TO A
PRIOR CONVICTION. EXTREMELY HIGH
COST OF LIVING REQUIRES TO THINK
CRITICALLY ABOUT SOLUTIONS THAT
WILL MAKE US ALL SAFE AND SECURE
. FORTY SEVEN IS AN EXAMPLE OF A
SOLUTIONS BASED APPROACH TO
ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. OVER
THE PAST EIGHT PLUS YEARS PROP
FORTY SEVEN HAS SAVE THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA SEVEN HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS. THESE RESOURCES
HAVE GONE TOWARDS TRANSFORM
COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA THROUGH
INVESTMENTS IN MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES. SUBSTANCE TREATMENT
PROGRAMS YOUTH INTERVENTION
REENTRY SERVICES FROM RECOVERY
SERVICES FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME.
THE SUCCESS OF PROP FORTY SEVEN
SHOULD BE LIFTED AS A NATIONAL
MODEL. OF THE OUTCOMES THAT ARE
POSSIBLE IN THE INVESTING
COMMUNITY WELL BEING. THIS
RESULTS IN FEWER PEOPLE IN JAILS
AND PRISONS A MORE SERVICES AND
SUPPORT ALTERNATELY MORE SAFETY
NOT LESS. SB THREE SIXTEEN IS
YET ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO GO DOWN
THE PATH THE CALIFORNIA VOTERS
HAVE ALREADY NOT ONCE. BUT TWICE
REJECTED. SIGNIFICANTLY
REVERTING MISDEMEANORS BACK TO
FELONIES WILL ONCE AGAIN
DRAMATICALLY INCREASE
INCARCERATION RATES LEAVING THE
STATE VULNERABLE TO FALLING OUT
OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE PRISON
SYSTEMS POPULATION CAP. MANDATED
BY THE FEDERAL JUDICIARY. FOR
THESE REASONS WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO SB THREE
SIXTEEN WE URGE YOU TO VOTE NO
ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU THANK
YOU NEXT WEEK- IF I GET CLOSE
ENOUGH THIS TIME MARCO GEORGE
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. I JUST
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF
THE CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN-
DESCRIBED- ARE NOT AFFECTED BY
PROP FORTY SEVEN WE HAD A
ROBBERY WHERE SOMEONE CONFRONTED
ANOTHER ONE AS THEY WERE LEAVING
THE PREMISES WITH FORCE THAT'S A
ROBBERY. WE HAD OF THE BREAK INS
IN SOUP- BLOCKED OR CLOSED
FACILITIES- YOU KNOW YOU WHERE
THEY'VE GONE IN AND TAKEN A
QUICK MONTHS OR WHATEVER THOSE
ARE FELONIES THEY WERE BUT THEY
WERE NOT AFFECTED BY PROP FORTY
SEVEN. THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO WITH PROP FORTY SEVEN. AND
THE EXAMPLE OF THE- SORT OF
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT WHERE
SOMEBODY GOES IN RAP STUFF GOES
IN COMES BACK IN AND GOES BACK
AND FORTH THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN
ADDRESSED BY THE ORGANIZED
RETAIL THEFT STATUTE. SO MANY OF
THESE EXAMPLES OF CRIMES DON'T
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PROP
FORTY SEVEN. I DO WANT TO SAY
THAT- YOU KNOW FORTY SEVEN HAS
HELPED US MR LITTLE SAID- AND
JUST THESE ARE JUST A FEW MORE
FIGURES TO KIND OF TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION- IT'S HELP TO
ELIMINATE PRISON OVERCROWDING IN
CALIFORNIA. TO THE POINT THAT TO
PRISONS ARE SET TO CLOSE BY THE
SUMMER OF TWENTY TWENTY THREE
SAVING THE STATE MORE THAN THREE
HUNDRED MILLION. AN ANNUAL
OPERATING COST AS WELL AS ONE
POINT THREE BILLION IN AVOIDED
INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS. BY
202-420-2420 TWENTY FIVE- IF
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY A REAL
POSSIBILITY WE MAY BE ABLE TO
CLOSE THE TIONAL THREE PRESENTS.
SAVING THE STATE UP TO FIVE
HUNDRED MILLION ANNUALLY AND
AVOIDING ADDITIONAL BILLIONS IN
CAPITAL EXPENSES. SO THE THIS IS
MONEY THAT WE COULD TAKE. AND
USE TO REBUILD CALIFORNIA THERE
ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT NEED TO
BE DONE IN OUR STATE. AND
FINALLY THIS MONEY. IS AVAILABLE
AND WE SHOULD USE IT FOR SOCIAL
GOODS. THANKFULLY IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. OUR RATE- SO DO HAVE
ANY OTHER OPPOSITION IN THE
ROOM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND THAT YOU OPPOSE
THANK YOU CAN ASK YOUR HERNANDEZ
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
ATTORNEYS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
IN OPPOSITION. YOU HAVE A
DIMARTINO BEHALF OF TIME DONE IN
OPPOSITION. AFTERNOON ADRIANA
GRIFFITH WITH INITIATE JUSTICE
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. MICHAEL MENDOZA WITH THE
ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. DALY AND
WEBER IN REBOUND ALSO RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THINKS. DIANNE SEEN
EXECUTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
PARTNERSHIP AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. GERMAN BURKE FRIENDS
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION A
CALIFORNIA OPPOSED. THANK YOU
WILL NOT MOVE ON TO WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE ARVEST PLEASE
JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
WE WILL BEGIN THANK YOU. THANK
YOU IN IF YOU WISH TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL START WITH ONE ONE FIFTY
ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD. VENTURE
MEMBERS RANDY PERRY WITH THEIR
REQUEST A FEW. THAT HAVE SUPPORT
- YEAH SUPPORT THE. FIND THIRTY
SEVEN GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
TIM TAYLOR ON BEHALF OF AND IT'S
LIKE THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF
INDEPENDENT BUSINESS IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ONE ONE FORTY PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON THIS IS
ANDREA HOW WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASIAN PACIFIC CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN SUPPORT SB THREE ONE
SIX THANK YOU. ONE ONE FIFTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
NATALIE BALANCED ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA BUSINESS
ROUNDTABLE IN SUPPORT. ONE ONE
FORTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR
MCMAHON ARMOR CONSTITUENTS OF
SENATOR NEW OCEAN STRONG SUPPORT
. WELL SURE IF NO ONE ELSE IN
HERE AT THIS TIME THANK YOU AND
THANK YOU TO ALL THE WITNESSES
WILL NOT BRING THE DISCUSSION
BACK TO MEMBERS TO ANY OF OUR
MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS SENATOR WIENER. THANK
YOU FOR SO I WANT TO SAY TO THE
AUTHOR WHO I FIND TO BE A
GENTLEMAN AND SOMEONE WHOSE-
TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING- I
COME COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE
STUFF THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR
RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS IS BAD-
AND IS A HUGE PROBLEM YOU SEE IT
IN YOUR DISTRICT I SEE IT ON MY
OWN- COMMUNITY WE WERE AT A
POINT WHERE WERE- I TARGET SAN
FRANCISCO NOW CLOSES AT SIX
O'CLOCK. EVERY NIGHT BECAUSE THE
EMPLOYEES DO NOT FEEL SAFE IN
THE STORES- AND I AND I COULD
GIVE MORE EXAMPLES OF LIKE
THAT'S HARMFUL TO MY COMMUNITY
WHEN A STORE LIKE TARGET CLOSES
AT SIX O'CLOCK THIS IS A REAL
REAL. REAL ISSUE. I DO I DON'T
AGREE HOWEVER THAT THE SOLUTION
TO IT IS TO INCREASE- THE
POTENTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME- FOR
ACROSS REGION WHICH IS WHAT THIS
BILL- EFFECTIVELY DOES WE- WE I
KNOW I CAN TELL YOU IN SEVERANCE
WE SEEM REMARKABLY LITTLE
ENFORCEMENT. OF EXISTING LAWS
THAT ARE MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO
ADDRESS SYSTEM HAS JUST BEEN
CHANGING I DON'T I'M NOT. TRYING
TO BE CRITICAL OF ARE VERY SHORT
STAFFED POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY
HAVE BEEN THERE'S BEEN A- A
FOCUS. ON RETAIL THEFT AND I
THINK IT IS HAVING SOME
BENEFITS. SO AND I KNOW IT'S A
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ALREADY IT'S
ALSO AN OUR LAST DISTRICT
ATTORNEY WHO WAS RECALLED HE HE
WAS ALSO VERY FOCUSED. ON
PROSECUTING ORGANIZED RETAIL
THEFT. AN EXISTING LAWS ALLOW
THAT TO HAPPEN THERE SOME OF THE
USERS NOTED THAT THAT ARE
ALREADY FELONIES- IT'S
ABOVE A CERTAIN. THRESHOLD.
ISN'T SOMETHING IS AMISS TO ME
THAT IS PUNISHABLE BY. A SIX TO
TWELVE. MONTHS TO A YEAR IN
COUNTIES WHICH IS NOT-
MEANINGLESS- PUNISH- AND SO THE
IS A MAN OF CONCERN. OF SO THAT
THESE ON THAT THE WILL BE A- WE
CAN DO A CONCERT WITHOUT
DESTROYING THEIR LIFE HAVE YOUR
CALL. CREATES- THAT. ON POP
FORTY SEVEN PASSED. BY VOTERS AS
NOTED AND THE VOTERS
RESOUNDINGLY OVERWHELMINGLY
REJECTED PROP TWENTY- TO
DRAMATICALLY SCALE IT. BACKED I
ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I
THINK THERE'S SOME
MISPERCEPTIONS ABOUT PROP. FORTY
SEVEN IN SOME WAYS WENT FOR
EXAMPLE RAISED- THE THRESHOLD
FOR FELONY SHOPLIFTING FROM FOUR
HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS TO NINE
HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS A MONTH-
AND WE SEE HERE A LOT ABOUT
HEALTH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM
THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S THE
PROBLEM. WHERE IS THE OF TEXAS.
ALEF PASSED- THE THRUSH FOR
FELLOW SOMETHING I BELIEVE IS
TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS
DRAMATICALLY HIGHER THAN THE
HIGHER AMOUNT. THAT WE RESERVE
TO WITH WITH PROP FORTY SEVEN SO
I THINK SOMETIMES. PROP FORTY
SEVEN IS NOT LOOKED AT. IN IN.
CONTEXT AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE
I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY HAVING
SERVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SERVICES GOING TO TIME WHEN A
PROPERTY CRIMES AND SAN
FRANCISCO. ROOM DRAMATICALLY
ESCALATING RISKING AN ESCALATION
AUTO BREAK INS WHICH WHICH ARE
FELONY IF I RECALL CORRECTLY BUT
A NUMBER OF TYPES OF PROPERTY
CRIMES. AND THE ESCALATION
STARTED BEFORE PROP FORTY SEVEN.
WAS PASSED SO I EAT RIGHT I
UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S- WE TEND TO
LOOK FOR THE REASON WHY WE'RE
HAVING CERTAIN PROBLEMS I DON'T
THINK PROP FORTY SEVEN IS THAT
REASON- I DO THINK THAT WE NEED
TO HAVE. REALLY CONSISTENT-
ENFORCEMENT AND SUPPORT- FROM
STORIES FOR THE STORES BECAUSE
THEY DON'T FEEL SUPPORT- WHEN I
TALK TO SMALL BUSINESSES BATES
PRECLINICAL SIDE. I HAVE SOMEONE
WHO'S SHOPLIFTING AND THE POLICE
DON'T ARRIVE OR TAKE SOME TWO
HOURS TO GET THERE AGAIN
ASSEMBLY EXECUTIVES DOWN
HUNDREDS OF OFFICERS FROM WHERE
IT WAS. BEFORE SO THERE ARE
REASONS WHY THAT HAPPENS BUT
IT'S A DEEP FRUSTRATION- AT AND
I THINK THAT LAWS ADEQUATE THE
WAY IT IS I WON'T BE SUPPORTING
US TODAY BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY
ALL THAT. YOU KNOW I FULLY AGREE
THAT THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM FOR
THESE BUSINESSES. THANK YOU
THANK YOU ANY OTHER SENATORS
WOULD LIKE SPEAKER COMMENT ON
THIS SENATOR. JOE BOOK. YES SO-
REGARDS TO THE CALM. IN ORGAN
RETAIL WHAT SO. LET MY COLLEAGUE
FROM SAN FRANCISCO ALL. HAVE
ALSO BEEN SPEAKING TO MAKE OF
OUR LOW BUSINESS WITH OUR- AND
THE TEAM. OF COM. AND IT ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN AB.
WE'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN LISTENING
TO IS OUR HEARING IS THAT-
BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHTENED- ARE
AT INCREASED- AMOUNT OF. COSTED
AND THE BILL. ALLOWED FOR FROM
FOUR FIFTY TO NINE FIFTY. AND
INDIVIDUALS ARE STRATEGICALLY
GOING IN THERE AND I'M NOT I'M
NOT REFERRING TO RETELL
ORGANIZED AFTER THAT IS A
SEPARATE AND- SUBJECT. ON ON
THAT FRONT THAT I'M GLAD THAT
THE GOVERNOR TOOK ACTION ON THAT
AB ON THAT FRONT BUT- WITH
REGARDS TO INDIVIDUALS GOING
INTO- STORES AND BASICALLY DOING
THE MATH ON ON. ISSUES I SPOKE
TO I BELIEVE IS OUR PERSON EVERY
HOME DEPOT OR LOWES WHO
DISCUSSED THE COST. AND THAT
THEY WERE EXPERIENCING AND IT
WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE ONE OF
THE FORMS THAT I ATTENDED WHERE
WE HAD OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES
SPEAK. AND IT WAS CONVEYED TO
THEM THAT IT WAS THEIR
RESPONSIBILITY TO- YOU KNOW HIRE
MORE POLICE OFFICERS TO. ENFORCE
THE CURRENT LAWS OR THEY HAD TO
INSTALL MORE CAMERAS IN THEIR IN
THEIR BUSINESSES TO. KEEP. YOU
KNOW- OUR IN TWO A WAS GOING ON
INTO BUSINESS OF THE DAY ENFORCE
THE LAW WE SPOKE A LOT ALSO
MAKING THAT OUR BUSINESSES KNEW
THAT THERE WERE LAWS IN PLACE
THAT THEY SHOULD BE CALLING. AND
WE ALSO INFORM THEIR LOCAL
CHAMBERS- IT MEMBERS ARE
BUSINESSES TO START REPORTING IT
BECAUSE UNLESS IT IF THEY
CONTINUE WITH THE WITH THE
NOTION OF. WHAT NOBODY CARES
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PROSECUTE
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL IT IN
ITS WASTE OF OUR TIME IS A WASTE
OF THEIR TIME WE'RE NOT GOING TO
DO IT. THEN WE DON'T HAVE
ACCURATE DATA SHOWING. THE
PITFALLS OF PROP FORTY SEVEN AND
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG
KEY ISSUES THAT I'VE SEEN THUS
FAR IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD
THE FAILURE OF REPORTING AB THE
ISSUE IS THAT MANY OF OUR LOCAL
BUSINESSES OUT BECAUSE THEY FEEL
THAT THEY DON'T. ARE NOT BEING
HEARD. AND SO AND AS WE CONTINUE
FOR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MANY OR
CHAMBERS IN OUR BUSINESSES
CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR
EDUCATION TO CALL IN- THE THAT
THAT'S THAT ARE OCCURRING.
BECAUSE I'M- A SAVINGS AT OUR
PEOPLE THERE ARE OUR IN CAR.
WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR THE
PITFALLS OF THEFT BECAUSE THE
BUSINESSES ARE PAYING FOR IT
WITH THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT
THEY HAVE TO THE KERR. FOR
SECURITIES OUR ABSENT OR
CAMERAS- IN THE PRODUCTS THAT
THEY'RE- THAT THEY'RE GETTING
STOLEN. AND ULTIMATELY WE AS
CONSUMERS PAID FOR THAT COST OF
THAT THE FREE BECAUSE- THEY'RE
NOT GOING TO HAVE A BANK TELLER
YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE
PRINTING THAT MANY AND SUPPLYING
THEM THAT THE- THAT THE STOCK
AGAIN. NO WE AS CONSUMERS ARE
PAYING IT SO WE MAY BE
OVERSTATING IT IN ONE END BUT
WE'RE NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE SO-
AS WE MOVE FORWARD I A- CO
AUTHOR OF THE BILL BECAUSE I DO
BELIEVE THAT- CALIFORNIANS NEED
TO. REVISIT THIS BUT IN THAT
SAME TOKEN WE'RE GOING TO BE
GATHERING THE DATA. TO MAKE SURE
THAT OUR BUSINESSES AND WE LOOK
AND WE ASSESS IF WE'RE NOT READY
YET. WE WILL HAVE THE DATA
EVENTUALLY. ON THE FACT THAT ARE
OCCURRING IN OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES THANK YOU FOR
OFFERING THIS FAILED. THANK YOU
FOR CO AUTHOR. THANK YOU DO YOU
HAVE ANY CLOSING REMARKS. YES
YEAH I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS-
PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN MORE
BROADLY AND PROPOSITION TWENTY-
THIS IS NOT CALLING FOR A REPEAL
OF PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN. I
MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT CRITICAL OF IT
BUT I THINK. THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCE OF PROPOSITION FORTY
SEVEN IS THE RETAIL THEFT THAT
WERE SAYING AND THE SORTS THAT-
SENATOR. OR CHAU CHOI BOGUE WAS
POINTING OUT. THIS IS A VERY
NARROW MODIFICATION OF THE
SHOPLIFTING PORTION OF IT. AND I
IT IS. SAID BY THOSE THAT-
OPPOSE THIS BILL THAT- WE'VE
ALREADY DONE THIS PROPOSITION
TWENTY WAS OVERWHELMINGLY
REJECTED WILL PROPOSITION TWENTY
WAS ABROAD- REFORM. OF
PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN MUCH
MORE SO. THAN I AM PROPOSING
HERE AND AGAIN. BY PASSING THIS
BILL YOUR PASSING IT TO THE
VOTERS TO SEE WHAT THE VOTERS
THINK ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.
AND I WOULD POINT OUT. THE
STATISTICS THAT I CITED FROM THE
UC BERKELEY POLL THE- THOUGHT PP
I SEE POLL THE I. NFIB POLL
THAT. THOSE POLLS WOULD NOT HAVE
REGISTERED LIKE THAT. THREE FOUR
YEARS AGO. BUT THEY DO NOW AND
THEY ARE INCREASINGLY AND IT IS
THE PERCEPTION OF A LOT OF
PEOPLE- THAT CRIME IS INCREASING
. AND IN PARTICULAR- THIS SORT
OF. PETTY THEFT CRIME IS
INCREASING THEY BELIEVE IT'S
INEXCUSABLE PEOPLE QUITE FRANKLY
ARE GETTING UPSET ABOUT IT AND
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
VOTERS GET REALLY UPSET ABOUT
SOMETHING WHETHER IT'S MERELY
PERCEPTION OR REALITY YOU GET
OVERREACTIONS. OF PUBLIC POLICY
PROPOSALS SO- IF THE CONSENSUS
OF THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT TO-
EXCEPT THIS BILL- THIS BILL. I
JUST POINT OUT THAT I WON'T BE
THE LAST ONE- TO PROPOSE THIS
AND AS TIME GOES ON IS UNLESS
SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
VOTERS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
GET FRUSTRATED AND IN THE FINAL
ANALYSIS AS MY OLD FRIEND DAVE
**** ALWAYS SAID- WHEN VOTERS
GET REALLY UPSET YOU GET OVER
REACTIONS. THANK YOU AGAIN I'D
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR AYE
VOTE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THIS
THANK YOU- I DO HAVE A MOTION ON
SB THREE SIXTEEN. ARE MOVED BY-
O. CHU BOGUE- CAN WE CALL ROLE
PLEASE. SB THREE SIXTEEN MOTIONS
TO PASS TO APPROVE SENATOR BOB
NOW HAVE NO JOB. I'VE HI
BRADFORD. SKINNER NO SKINNER
WIENER WIENER NOW. ONE THREE. I
WANT TO VOTERS OUT. SORRY BILLS
BILL FOR SORRY THINK YOU. WOULD
YOU LIKE WE CAN SIR- THANK
REPEAT THAT. SENATE ROTH.
PRESENTING SB THREE FORTY NINE-
HAVE THE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
AND OF THE BILL CLEAR THAT ACER
. OF RESTER AND COMP FOR SHALL
APPLY TO IN PENDING CASE.
AGAINST A DEFENDANT AT THE TIME
THE DEFENDANT WAS RESTORED TO
COMPETENCE. THE SYMBOL
CLARIFICATION ADOPTS THE-
DECISION WHICH EXPRESSLY
REJECTED THE ASSERTION THAT A
DEFENDANT MAY BE COMPETENT IN
TWO CASES. AND INCOMPETENT IN A
THIRD. BY HAVING A CERTIFICATE A
RESTORATION APPLY TO ALL PENDING
CASES THIS BILL REDUCE
UNNECESSARY LITIGATION CONSERVE
JUDICIAL IN MENTAL HEALTH
RESOURCES WHICH IS YOU KNOW
WE'RE LIMITED ACROSS THE STATE
AND COULD POTENTIALLY. REDUCE
THE BACKLOG OF APPROXIMATELY
EIGHTEEN HUNDRED INCOMPETENT TO
STAND TRIAL DEFENDANTS AWAITING
RESTORATION AT THE STATE
HOSPITAL. THE OPPOSITION RAISE
THE CONCERN THAT THIS BILL DOES
NOT CONSIDER THAT A PERSON WHO
IS COMPETENT AND ONE CASE. MAY
NOT BE COMPETENT IN ANOTHER AND
TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS I'M
PROPOSING AMENDMENTS THAT STATUS
UPON A DECLARATION OF DOUBT IN A
CASE THAT DOUBT SHOULD BE
PRESUMED TO EXIST IN ALL CASES
PENDING AGAINST THAT DEFENDANT.
THEREFORE ENSURING THAT ALL
PENDING CASES IN THE COURT. ARE
CONSIDERED BY THE MENTAL HEALTH
PRACTITIONERS AND OTHERS IN THE
RESTORATION PROCESS. AND FRANKLY
THE FRUSTRATION OF COMPETENCY IS
COMPETENCY IS FOUND IT MUST BE
FOUND. IN ALL THOSE CASES. IN
ADDITION THESE AMENDMENTS ALSO
CREATE A PRESUMPTION IS
REBUTTABLE BY A PREPONDERANCE OF
THE EVIDENCE RECOGNIZING. THAT
THERE MAY BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE
A DEFENDANT'S COMPETENCE CHANGES
DRAMATICALLY AFTER RESTORATION
AFFECTING THE INDIVIDUAL'S
ABILITY TO STAND TRIAL. LASTLY
THE AMENDMENTS CLARIFIED THAT
THE COURT RETAINS JURISDICTION
OF ALL CASES PENDING AGAINST THE
DEFENDANT WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AFTER A DECLARATION OF DOUBT FOR
THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING. HIS
OR HER COMPETENCE TO STAND TRIAL
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE I DO HAVE WITH ME
HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. RIVERSIDE COUNTY
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY MEGAN
HOLTMANN. MA'AM YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. I WILL ADDRESS
BRIEFLY JUST A COUPLE OF THE
PROBLEMS THAT THIS BILL IS
INTENDED SPECIFICALLY TO COMBAT
SUCH AS SCENARIOS WHERE A
DEFENDANT WHO HAS MULTIPLE CASES
MAY HAVE MULTIPLE ATTORNEYS WHO
DIFFERENT OPINION AS TO WHETHER
OR NOT THEIR CLIENT IS. ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND THE PROCEEDINGS
AGAINST THEM OR SCENARIOS WHERE
THEY MAY PICK UP A CASE WHILE
THEY ARE ALREADY IN SUSPENDED
PROCEEDINGS. THIS BILL IS
DESIGNED TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN
THE SAME PROCEDURAL POSTURE.
THAT THEY CAN ALL MOVE UNIFORMLY
THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS WHILE
THAT THAT WHILE THE DEFENDANT'S
COMPETENCE IS BEING DETERMINED-
IT ALSO CODIFY SOME LEGAL
PRESUMPTIONS AND THE DIFFERENT
BURDENS OF PROOF DURING THE
DIFFERENT STAGES OF COMPETENCY
PROCEEDINGS. AT ALSO CODIFIES
PEOPLE THE AVALON AND THIS
COMMONSENSE NOTION THAT IF YOUR
COMPETENT AND ABLE TO UNDERSTAND
THE PROCEEDINGS AGAINST YOU IN
ONE CASE. YOU MAYBE IT AND ALL
OF YOUR OTHER CASES. WHAT THIS
BILL DOES NOT DO AS IT DOESN'T
PRECLUDE THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS
FROM ARGUING THAT THEIR CLIENT.
MAY BE COMPETENT IN
UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCEEDINGS
AND ONE CASE BASED ON THE CHARGE
AND NOT IN THE OTHER. THAT IS
WHAT THE EVIDENTIARY HEARING I
THAT IS NOT THAT COULD BE
NECESSARY UPON A RESTORATION-
DOES. SO THEY CAN MAKE THAT
ARGUMENT IF THEY FEEL THAT IT'S
APPROPRIATE. AND IT DOESN'T
PREVENT THEM FROM LATER RAISING
AN ADDITIONAL DOUBT AS TO
COMPETENCE IF THERE IS A CHANGE
AND THEIR CLIENTS MENTAL STATE.
THEY CAN RAISE THAT A SECOND
TIME IN PROCEEDINGS CAN READ.
REINITIATED AT THAT POINT. SB
THREE FOR NINE IST COMMENTS BILL
IT'S- TO MAKE THAT ALL OF THE
CASES STAY TOGETHER THAT IT BUT
INCOMPETENT DEFENDANT IS NOT
BROUGHT TO TRIAL BUT THAT A
COMPETENT DEFENDANT CAN MOVE
THROUGH THE PROCESS AND A MORE
COHESIVE MANNER. OUR GOAL IS TO
AVOID REDUNDANT LITIGATION AND
TO ENSURE THAT ARE ALREADY
SCARCE RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED
APPROPRIATELY SO I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AND I THOUGHT. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR- IF YOU
GRECO ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION. AS WELL AS THE
SENIOR DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION AS WELL
AS THE SAN DIEGANS AGAINST
CRIME. ALL IN SUPPORT OF. THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. I AM SURE
RUNNING SHERMAN WITH THE
RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION
AND ALSO THE DEPUTY SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION OF MONTEREY COUNTY
AND PLUS COUNTY IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. MANCHURIAN
SENATORS KOBE PRESIDING WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
PSYCHIATRIC TECHNICIANS AND ON
BEHALF OF OUR SIX THOUSAND
MEMBERS WORKING IN STATE
HOSPITALS AND PRISONS WE SUPPORT
. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT. IF NOT WE'LL
GO TO OPPOSITION ANY LEAD
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. I'M MARCO
CHORE TO GET IN CAN YOU HEAR ME
. IN A RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR AND THE
SPONSORS FOR- TAKING THE
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS- WE ARE
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED- WE STILL
FEEL THAT THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS
OUR ISSUES AND SPECIFICALLY-
WHAT THIS DOES IT IT UP ENDS
EXISTING LAW AND PUTS THE HORSE
BEFORE THE CART. IT RESTORES AND
INDIVIDUALS TO COMPETENCY ON
CASES BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN BEEN
FOUND INCOMPETENT AND THIS IS
BEING DONE IN THE NAME OF COST
SAVINGS WERE NO EXPERT HAS FOUND
THEM INCOMPETENT. ON THE
PARTICULAR CASE IN THE FIRST
PLACE. AND ONE PROBLEM HERE IS
THIS IS NOT CODIFYING AVILA. A
VILLA IS ACTUALLY A VERY
INTERESTING CASE BECAUSE IT WAS
A CANADA- HE WAS RUNNING FOR THE
THOUSAND OAKS CITY COUNCIL. AND
HE SENT TEXT MESSAGES- WHICH
APPEARED TO BE FROM HIS OPPONENT
HARPER THAT WERE HARASSING HIM.
AND SO BOTH OF THEM LOST THE
ELECTION HE WAS CHARGED WITH
COMPUTER FRAUD AND IDENTITY
THEFT. DURING THE COURSE OF THAT
REPRESENTATION. FIRST HE-
THREATENED TO KILL THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY. SO THEY CHARGED HIM
WITH ANOTHER CASE AND THEY
BROUGHT IN THE HA. THEN HE
THREATENED TO KILL US PUBLIC
DEFENDER. SO THERE WE WERE BOTH
ALLIED- AND SO THEY HAVE THAT
RESULTED IN YET A THIRD CASE.
THE PRIVATE CONFLICT COUNSEL
THAT WAS BROUGHT IN. CLEAR THE
DOUBT CLEARLY THERE WAS
SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS
GENTLEMAN AND THE JUDGE TOOK ALL
THREE OF THESE FELONY CASES. AND
SAID. I AM GOING TO HOLD A
HEARING TO SEE WHETHER HE IS
COMPETENT ON ALL OF THE CASES.
THEY DIDN'T SAY WE'RE GONNA JUST
TAKE ANY CASE AND- THE- SO THEY
WERE CONSIDERING ALL THREE OF
THE CASES AT THE FRONT END. S.
B. THREE FORTY NINE APPLIES AT
THE BACKEND BECAUSE IT SAYS IF
YOU ARE CONSIDERED- RESTORED.
THEN IT'S GOING TO. DEEMED THAT
RESTORATION OF COMPETENCY TO
APPLY TO ALL YOUR CASES
REGARDLESS OF WHEN THEY WERE
FILED. AND WHAT WHETHER THEIR
FELONIES OR MISDEMEANORS. AND
THAT'S THE PROBLEM IT CREATES
CHAOS LITERALLY BECAUSE THIS
MIXING PHONIES WITH MISDEMEANORS
AND AS AFFECTING RECENTLY
ENACTED LEGISLATION THAT THIS
BODY HAS- VOTED FOR SB THREE
SEVENTEEN STERN AND TWENTY
TWENTY ONE- FOUND THAT
INCOMPETENT MR MEANS WOULD NOT
BE SENT TO STATE HOSPITAL. THAT
THEY WOULD INSTEAD BE GIVEN
MISDEMEANOR- MENTAL HEALTH
DIVERSION WHERE THEY WOULD GO
ASSISTED OUTPATIENT TREATMENT
MAILING ADDRESS SAME AS OF YET
OKAY ALL RIGHT THE BOTTOM LINE
IS AND THIS ALSO WILL PUT
POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE- COURT
ACT. SO THIS IS- WHAT'S TO
HAPPEN IS THIS IS GOING TO
RESULT IN DUE PROCESS VIOLATIONS
AND SPEEDY TRIAL VIOLATIONS BY
MIXING FELONIES AND MISDEMEANORS
WHICH INSTEAD OF SAVING
RESOURCES WILL ACTUALLY REQUIRE
THE COURTS. AND DEFENSE COUNSEL
TO LITIGATE TO PRESERVE THOSE
RIGHTS SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR- AND WE WOULD STILL LOVE
TO SEE THE MISDEMEANORS TOTALLY
TAKEN OUT OF THIS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE ASK RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR NOTE. THANK THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR NASSER HERNANDEZ I'M HALF
THE CALIFORNIA TRANSFER COOL
JUSTICE FOR THINK THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE. FOR DISCUSSIONS ON OUR
CONCERNS AND WITH THE BILL WITH-
DISTANCE IN- CONSIDERATION OF
TIME. YOU KNOW WE SHARE A LOT OF
THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY
THE PREVIOUS WITNESS WE WILL
CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WE DO THINK
THAT PERHAPS SOME FLEXIBILITY ON
THE FRONT END- AND PERHAPS NOT
AS MUCH- SHIFTING OF THE BURDEN
OVER TO THE DEFENSE SO WE'LL
CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS- IF THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER- SPEAKERS. R. RIGHT.
I'M SORRY SIR GO AHEAD THE WHOLE
FROM. WITH THIS REALLY WRITES
CALIFORNIA RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU WITH ANY
OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM.
SEEING NONE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES WITH WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION POSITION MODERATOR
IF YOU PLEASE. PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION WE WILL
BEGIN THANK YOU. IF YOU WISH
SAYS. IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND MEDICARE WE HAVE NO
ONE IN HERE TO SIGN. THANK YOU-
I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO ASK
OUR MEMBERS- TO HAVE ANY
DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM MEMBERS
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON
THIS ITEM- SENATOR BRADFORD
MOVES THE BILL'S SENATOR OFF
WOULD YOU LIKE TO. CLOSE. I
PROBABLY SHOULD AT LEAST ADDRESS
THE- OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS
PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE
HORSE RESTORING COMPETENCY
BEFORE A FINDING OF
INCOMPETENCY- I SHOULD POINT OUT
THAT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE
PROPOSED. OTHER IN PRINT AND
SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU BUT
FORGET REGARD TO THAT REMEMBER.
PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE
HORSE FINDING- COMPETENCY RETURN
RESTORATION INCUMBENCY BEFORE
FINDING INCOMPETENCY THE
AMENDMENT SAYS IF THE COURT
STATES A DOUBT. AS TO THE
DEFENDANT'S MENTAL COMPETENCE IN
ANY CRIMINAL ACTION A REVOCATION
PROCEEDING THAT DOUBT WHICH IS
HOW THE PROCESS STARTS TO
DETERMINE COMPETENCY SHALL BE
PRESUMED TO EXIST IN ALL CASES
PENDING AGAINST THE DEFENDANT
WITHIN THAT COUNTY REGARDLESS OF
THE DATE OF FILING UNTIL THE
QUESTION. OF THE DEFENDANT'S
COMPETENCE IS RESOLVED ACCORDING
TO THE PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN
THIS CHAPTER. SO IN FACT THE
HORSE IS IN FRONT OF THE CARD I
DOUBT IS RAISED A COMPETENCY
DETERMINATION IS MADE. AT SOME
POINT IF THE INDIVIDUAL IS
INCOMPETENT AND IS RESTORED TO
COMPETENCE A CERTIFICATE OF
RESTORATION IS ISSUED THE POINT
HERE IS TO NOT HAVE THESE
SUCCESSIVE- OF DOUBT QUESTIONS
RAISED SUCCESSIVE RETURNS TO
PSYCHIATRIST. FOR DETERMINATION
OF COMPETENCY AND SUCCESSION OF
CERTIFICATES OF RESTORATION IN
CHARGES PENDING AGAINST THE SAME
DEFENDANTS IN CASES PENDING
AGAINST THE SAME DEFENDANTS AT
THE SAME TIME. THIS IS SIMPLY
EFFICIENCY OF OPERATION WHILE
PROJECTORS SERVING AND
PROTECTING THE DUE PROCESS THE
DEFENDANTS ARE ENTITLED TO IN
THE CRIMINAL. PROCEEDINGS SAYS
YOU KNOW I COME FROM A COUNTY
WERE CRIMINAL CASES ARE
CURRENTLY BEING DISMISSED. AND
CIVIL CASES. IF THEY'RE HURT AT
ALL VERY FEW WERE HEARD BECAUSE
OF CONGESTION THE COURTS HAVE A
SHORTAGE OF JUDICIAL RESOURCES
SO THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES APPRECIATE YOUR
PATIENCE I RESPECTFULLY AS FOR
AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU SENATOR-
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR-
BRADFORD CAN WE CALL ROLL CALL
PLEASE. SB THREE FORTY NINE THE
MOTIONS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. SENATOR ROB HI
BOB I WHICH PROVOKED I GO ABOVE
AYE BRADFORD. FOR I SKINNER
WIENER. WIENER HIGH. WILL HOLD
THE ROLE OKAY- THANK YOU CENTER
REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ON SENATOR
BACKER. THANK YOU FILE YOU HAVE
THE FLOOR PRESENTING ON SP. FOUR
SEVENTY FOUR. I THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS WHEN I FIRST I
THINK THE COMMITTEE FOR THE WORK
IT'S HISTORICALLY DONE TO
ELIMINATE SOME OF THE FINANCIAL.
BURDENS ON THE INCARCERATED THAT
PREVENTS SUCCESSFUL RE ENTRY.
INTO THEM HERE TO PRESENT AS
BEFORE SEVENTY FOR THE BASIC ACT
IS BASIC AFFORDABLE SUPPLIES FOR
CARS RATED. CALIFORNIANS AS
BEFORE SEVENTY FOUR ELIMINATES
THE OFTEN AGREE JUST MARKUPS FOR
ITEMS SOLD IN PRISON CANTEEN
STORES INCLUDING FOOD HYGIENE
PRODUCTS HEALTH SUPPLEMENTS AND
STATIONARY AMONG OTHER ITEMS.
KTM'S ARE MARKED UP AN AVERAGE
OF SIXTY FIVE PERCENT. ABOVE THE
COST THE VENDOR FOR THE CAN BE
MARKED UP AS MUCH AS 2100% OF
THE COST TO THE AVERAGE
CONSUMER. FOR EXAMPLE FEBRUARY
TWENTY TWENTY THREE PRICELESS
FROM SAN QUENTIN CHAU AQUAFRESH
SENSITIVE TOOTHPASTE BEING SOLD
CANTEEN FOR FIVE DOLLARS AND
FIFTY CENTS YES CELLS FOR A
DOLLAR EIGHTY THREE AT WALGREENS
ARE MARKUPS. WITH OVER 2100%
THESE MARKERS MAKE MY PRODUCTS
EXCESS OF AND IT CAN TRAY. AN
ESTIMATED MILLION DOLLARS EACH
YEAR FROM PREDOMINATELY LOW
INCOME FAMILIES OF COLOR. GIVEN
THE MINIMUM WAGE IN PRISONS
ABOUT EIGHT CENTS A ROUGHLY
TWELVE DOLLARS A MONTH MARKETS
CAN TAKE AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF
INCARCERATED. PERSONS INCOME.
WHEN YOU COUNT RESTITUTION WHICH
TAKES OVER HALF OF THE INCOME.
MCCARTY PERSON BE LEFT WITH HIS
LITTLE SIX DOLLARS A MONTH TO
PURCHASE THESE NECESSITIES.
RECORDED TWENTY TWENTY REPORT BY
IMPACT JUSTICE 60% OF OUR CAR
STRAIGHT PEOPLE SURVEY SAID THEY
COULD NOT AFFORD. CANTEEN
PURCHASES. AND 75% REPORTED THE
EXPERIENCE LIMITED ACCESS TO
FOOD BUT YOU DO THEIR OR THEIR
FAMILY'S FINANCES. ADDITION ELLE
BAKER CENTER PORT NEARLY TWO IN
THREE FAMILIES WITH INCARCERATED
FAMILY MEMBER WERE UNABLE TO
MEET THEIR FAMILY'S BASIC NEEDS
INCLUDING FOOD AND HOUSING. DUE
TO FINANCIAL BURDENS OF
INCARCERATION. WITHIN THIS WILL
THE BASICS ACT BECAUSE OF COURSE
OUR PEOPLE SHIFT SHOULD NOT HAVE
TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE BASIC
NECESSITIES OF FOOD. HYGIENE
PRODUCTS WERE HEALTH
SUPPLEMENTS. THE BASICS TAX AIMS
TO LIVE ALLEVIATE UNNECESSARY
COST PRESSURES FOR KERR STREET
PEOPLE IN THEIR FAMILIES.
EVERYONE DESERVES ACCESS TO
BASIC NECESSITIES EVER DESERVES
AFFORDABLE SUPPLIES AND
ADVERTISERS KNOW THEIR LOVED
ONES EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO
CARE FOR THEMSELVES- IT'S GOING
TO TRULY REHABILITATED
SUPPORTING CRUSHER TO
CALIFORNIA'S ME TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS. TO
THESE BASIC AFFORDABLE SUPPLIES
WITH ME TESTIFY OR SU KIM THE
POLICY MANAGER AT A COMMON LAW
AT SEARS JOHNSON THE FAIR CHANCE
COMMITTEE ORGANIZER LEAGUE LATE
AT WORK. THANK YOU LORD FOR
WITNESS COME UP HAVE TO MINUTES
. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MY NAME IS SUE KIM AND
I'M A POLICY MANAGER ON COMMON
LIES HERE TO SPEAK ON THE
IMPORTANCE. OF SENATE BILL FOUR
SEVEN FOUR. FOR AT LEAST A
DECADE CITYSEARCH COUNTY MARKET
HAS REMAINED AT ABOUT 65% WHICH
IS MUCH HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE
RETAIL GROCERY MARKET. IN THE
FREE WORLD WE ALL HAVE THE
OPTION TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
DIFFERENT RETAILERS IN SEARCH
FOR THE BEST PRICES. WE COULD GO
TO COSTCO WHERE THEY HAVE ABOUT
A 13% MARKUP. FOR KROGER FOR
ABOUT TWENTY BUT IMAGINE IF YOU
HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO BUY ALL OF
YOUR GROCERIES HYGIENE PRODUCTS.
AND HOUSEHOLD GOODS AT ONE
SINGLE STORE AND THAT STORE
PLAYED A 65% MARKET TO ALL OF
ITS PRODUCTS. IMAGINE THE
FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT WOULD
HAVE. BEEN ON TOP OF THAT
IMAGINE IF YOUR FAMILY'S
BREADWINNER WAS INCARCERATED AND
MAKING TWENTY CENTS AN HOUR.
TOTALING ABOUT THIRTY DOLLARS A
MONTH. THIS IS THE REALITY THAT
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
FAMILIES ARE FACING. WHICH
BRINGS US TO THE QUESTION WHY
THE MOST ECONOMICALLY
DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE IN OUR
STATE PAYING THE HIGHEST MARKUPS
ON THESE BASIC GOODS. THIS IS
BECAUSE CITIES RELY ON THE
REVENUE FROM CANTEEN SALES TO
PAY FOR SOME OF ITS OWN
OPERATING EXPENSES. SPECIFICALLY
THOSE IN THE INMATE WELFARE
FUND. WE RECOGNIZE AN IMPORTANT
SERVICES IN REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMS ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED BY
THESE EXTREME MARKUPS. HOWEVER
IT IS AN APPROPRIATE AND
EXTREMELY CRUEL. TO FORCE THE
POOREST PEOPLE IN OUR STATE TO
FERRET THERE BEAR THE BURDEN OF
THESE COSTS. THE FOR THE PEOPLE
THAT CITY STERN CARS RATES TO
PAY FOR SOME OF THE COSTS OF
INCARCERATION. OTHER STATES EVEN
THOSE THAT ARE PUSHING TO LOWER
CANTEEN PRICES. HAVE MARKUP
RATES FAR BELOW CCR SIXTY FIVE
PERCENT. FOR EXAMPLE THE
VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS CURRENTLY HAS A 9%
CANTEEN MARCA. BUT A RECENTLY
CONVENED FINES AND FEES WORKING
GROUP RECOMMENDED THAT THE
LEGISLATURE ALLOCATE MONEY. IN
THE GENERAL FUND SILLIMANITE
THIS MARKUP. THEY RECOGNIZE THAT
EVEN A 9% MARKET PLACES AN
UNACCEPTABLE BURDEN ON
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
FAMILIES. INSTEAD OF PUNISHING
THE MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
IN OUR STATE. WITH PREDATORY
FINANCIAL PRACTICES WE SHOULD BE
INVESTING. IN THEIR HEALTH AND
ECONOMIC STABILITY. ANY IN THE
CANTEEN OF IT'S A STEP IN THAT
TO. I RESPECTFULLY URGE DR- AND
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS AND FIFTH. THANK YOU
NEXT WEEK- YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
SANDRA JOHNSON AND I WORK AT
LEGAL AID AT WORK. I AM THEIR
FAIR CHANCE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.
AND I'M ALSO BEEN IMPRISONED FOR
FIFTEEN AND I'VE ALSO SPENT
SERVE FIFTEEN YEARS IN PRISON.
SO I KNOW FIRST HAND. HOW IT
FEELS NOT HAVE TO DO. IT SO I
KNOW FIRST HAND HOW IT FEELS TO
DEPEND ON PRISON CANTEEN FOR
FOOD AND BASIC PERSONAL HYGIENE
ITEMS. THAT THE CANTEEN DOES
THAT THE PRISON DOES NOT SUPPLY
ENOUGH OF. REMEMBER NIGHT. I
REMEMBER MANY NIGHTS IN PRISON
THAT I WOULD HAVE GONE TO BED
HUNGRY IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE
FOOD THAT. I WAS ABLE TO BUY AT
CANTEEN BECAUSE OF THE MONEY
THAT MY MOTHER. WAS ABLE TO
SQUEEZE FROM HER ALREADY LOW
INCOME. AND I EVEN HAVE TO SHARE
SOME OF MY FOOD WITH MY
ROOMMATE. BECAUSE THEY DID NOT
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS TO HELP THEM
CANTEEN. SO THAT THEY SO THAT
STATE NEITHER OF THEM COULD BE
AT HOME EITHER. THEY DIDN'T EVEN
HAVE A JOB SO THEY DIDN'T EVEN
MAKE ANY MONEY. IN THE PRISON.
AFTER MY RELEASE FROM PRISON.
WHILE I WAS TRYING TO GET MY OWN
LIFE. IN ON TRACK I IMMEDIATELY
STARTED FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING
MY BROTHER MY OLDEST BROTHER.
WHO UNTIL JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO
WAS INCARCERATED SERVING FORTY
FOUR YEARS. SENATE BILL FOUR
SEVEN FOUR WILL ELIMINATE THE
MARKUPS AT CANTEEN FOR BASIC
FOOD ITEMS. FOOLED AND HYGIENE
ITEMS. LIKE TOOTHPASTE DEODORANT
SO THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE
NEVER BEEN. IMPRISONED THINKS
THAT CALIFORNIA PRISON SURPRISE.
BUT DOES NOT FOR INCARCERATED
PEOPLE. I LIKE TO THINK THE
COMMITTEE AND MADAM CHAIR.
MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK
TODAY ABOUT SENATE BILL. S. B.
S. ABOUT SENATE BILL FOR SOME
FOR A BILL THAT WOULD HELP SO
MANY FAMILIES THAT IT JUST
BARELY WORKING. AMERICANS TO
MEET. AND ALSO FOR THEMSELF AND
THEIR LOVED ONES IN THE
CALIFORNIA PRISON. SENATE BILL.
SENATE BILL FOUR SEVEN FOUR IS A
COMMON SENSE BILL AND I ASK YOU
TO VOTE YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. THANK YOU- DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER. COMMENTS IN SUPPORT.
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION THEN YOU SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AT LITTLE WITH
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
PLEASE SEE GONZALEZ FOR LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN AND ALL OF US OR NONE
LEGAL AID AT WORK ON COMMON LAW
AND- ELECTED IN SUPPORT. DRAMA
WALKED IN ABOUT THE LARGER ON
BEHALF OF ALL OF US ARE NOT AS
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GREGORY FELT INITIATE JUSTICE
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
DOCUMENTS PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE
OF CALIFORNIANS MIGHT JUST AS
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT.
CHARACTERS WITH DISABILITY
RIGHTS CALIFORNIA STRONG SUPPORT
. DANNECKER DONE ON BEHALF OF
THE GREAT TRAINING INSTITUTE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. KEN HARTMAN ON
BEHALF TO TRANSFORMATIVE IN
PRISON WORKGROUP STRONG SUPPORT
. OF ONE OF A ON BEHALF OF CO
SPONSOR ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS STRONG SUPPORT.
KIMBERLY LONG EXONERATED PERSON
I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT. WHO THINK
OF OTHER BEHALF OF ACLU
CALIFORNIA ACTION IN SUPPORT.
NASSAR HERNANDEZ ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA TERMS FOR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. I JUST WANT
TO REPORT THAT A R. C. IS ALSO
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. JIM
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
TO CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT
. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. SEEING
NINE DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION
WITNESSES JUST TO SPEAK ON ITEM
. SEEING NONE- THANK YOU WILL
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
OF YOUR ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION MODERATOR IF YOU'D
PLEASE PROMPT INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL WILL
BEGIN. THANK YOU TO ASSIST US
FIND SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE
FIFTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON REBEKAH GONZALEZ OF
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKER CALIFORNIA CHAPTER
IN SUPPORT TO THE STOCK. WE'LL
GO TO LINE ONE FIFTY SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY HI MY NAME
THE PARKING ON A LITTLE BIT
LEGAL SERVICES FOR PRISONERS
WOULD AS WELL AS ALL OF US ARE
NOT. ROUTE BOTH FOR A SB PORTION
FOUR AUTHORED BY SENATOR DICK IN
STRONG. THANK YOU. ONE ONE TWO
NINE PLEASE AHEAD. YES
POLITICALLY BRO ON BEHALF OF
INDIVISIBLE CAL STATE STRONG IN
SUPPORT. AND ONE ONE FIFTY EIGHT
PLEASE GO AHEAD. PEOPLE I'M
SORRY FOR. ONE FIFTY EIGHT
POLICE TO THREE THIRTY PM. HI MY
NAME IS WE ARE CALLING OF TEAM.
AND THE- TWENTY ORGANISED A AND
COUNTY SAN TO ALSO SUPPORT THIS
BILL. ONE ONE FIFTY SIX GO AHEAD
. ONCE SECURE LINE IS OF. HI
THIS A LOOK MORE WITH SERVICES
FOR PER WHICH- ALL OF US OR NONE
AND PROBLEMS FOR. ALL. MEDICARE
WE HAVE KNOWN AS SECURITY SIGN.
THANK YOU- WILL NOW- BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS I
BELIEVE NOBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON
ITEM- BUT WE HAD A MOTION BY
SENATOR BRADFORD I DO WANT TO
SAY SENATOR- BECKER I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE THIS BILL I THINK ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO DON'T
TALK ABOUT ENOUGH IS THAT THE
OPTIONS FOR WOMEN IN PRISON. ARE
ACTUALLY FAR LIMITED TO EARN ANY
INCOME- SO THAT IS ALSO AN
OBSTACLE THAT IS NOT DISCUSSED
ENOUGH- THE PROGRAMS ARE VERY
LIMITED COMPARED TO THE MEN
PRESENT- I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR I FULLY
SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND I REALLY
DO APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL THE
WITNESSES THAT SPOKE IN FAVOR OF
THIS- SO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE YES THANK YOU FOR THAT A
MINIATURE AND- RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR A VOTE THANK YOU- MOTIONS
PASSED I MEAN I HAVE MOVED VICE
SENATOR BRADFORD CAN HAVE A ROLL
CALL. SB FOUR SEVENTY FOR THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR BOB. NINE
BOB I- TOBER HI THE TWO OF AYE
BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE SKINNER.
FIVE AYE WIENER. WIENER AYE. IN
YOU THE BILL IS. FIVE TWO ZERO
MOVED ON TO APPROPRIATE THANK
YOU. WE NOW HAVE SO MEN.
PRESENTING SB. EIGHT THREE
EIGHT. FLOOR'S YOURS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MEMBERS IT'S BEEN A
LONG ONE FOR YA. J. O. YOUR
DEDICATION TO FAN ON HERE THE
DICE. BASIS FIRST HOW MANY THINK
THE MOMENT I WANT TO TAKE A
MOMENT REALLY THINKS THAT. THE
CONSULTANT STAFF COMMITTEE STOPS
WERE WORKING WITH MY TEAM ON
THIS VERY IMPORTANT BILL. TO
RETURNING MEMBERS THIS BILL
MIGHT BE. SOME FAMILIAR TO YOU.
I'M HERE TO TALK THE TALK ABOUT
SB EIGHT THREE EIGHT WHICH IS
LOOKING TO REMOVE BARRIERS FACED
BY VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE
AND GETTING HELP FROM
CALIFORNIA'S VICTIM COMPENSATION
PROGRAM. SB EIGHT THREE EIGHT
WILL IMPROVE ACCESS TO VITAL
RESOURCES FOR VICTIMS OF POLICE
VIOLENCE AS THEY RECOVER FROM
PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL INJURIES
CAUSED BY THE EXCESSIVE ABUSIVE
ACTIONS- OF POLICE OR IN THE
CASES OF PEOPLE KILLED BY POLICE
PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE NEXT OF
KIN TO BE ABLE TO BURY THEIR
LOVED ONES WITH DIGNITY AND
RESPECT. THERE ARE THREE KEY
POINTS TO THIS BILL FIRST THIS
BILL WOULD ENSURE THAT WITHOUT A
DOUBT THE DEFINITIONS OF CRIME
AND VICTIM FOR PURPOSES OF
COMPENSATION INCLUDE VICTIMS
ONLY VICTIMS WERE SERIOUSLY
INJURED OR KILLED BY
INAPPROPRIATE USE OF FORCE BY
POLICE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER AN
OFFICER IS ARRESTED OR CHARGED.
AGAIN THIS WOULD NOT REQUIRE AN
OFFICER TO BE CHARGED WITH
WRONGDOING. APPLICANTS WILL BE
DENIED COMPENSATION IF THE
PERSON INJURED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS CONVICTED OF
COMMITTED COMMITTING COMMITTING
A VIOLENT FELONY AS DEFINED IN
PENAL CODE SIX SIX SEVEN POINT
FIVE AT THAT. TIME THEY WOULD
NOT RECEIVE COMPENSATION WHILE
SUCH CHARGES ARE PENDING.
VICTIMS ARE FAMILY MEMBERS OF
DECEASED VICTIMS WOULD ALSO NOT
BE ELIGIBLE IF THE VICTIM COSTS
THEORIES BARLEY INJURY OR DEATH
TO ANOTHER PERSON AT THAT TIME.
NO VICTIM IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE
COMPENSATION WHILE IN JAIL OR
PRISON OR WHILE ON PROBATION OR
PAROLE FOR VIOLENT OFFENSES. I
WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS
BILL DOES NOT HAVE THE INTENT TO
PROVIDE RESOURCES TO THE FAMILY
OF INDIVIDUAL WHO AFTER
COMMITTING MURDER FOR EXAMPLE
WAS SHOT AND KILLED BY
RESPONDING OFFICERS. THIS BILL
EXCLUDE THE VIOLENT CRIME SUCH
AS THAT EXAMPLE THAT I JUST GAVE
. VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS WOULD
ONLY BE ELIGIBLE IF THE FORCE
RESULTS IN SERIOUS BODILY INJURY
OR DEATH TO ANOTHER AND ONLY IF
THE INCH INJURED PERSON WAS NOT
COMMITTING ANY VIOLENT CRIME AT
THIS TIME. SECOND SB EIGHT THREE
EIGHT WOULD ALLOW SURVIVORS
SURVIVORS OF POLICE EXCEPT SEX
EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE TO USE
DOCUMENTATION OTHER THAN A
POLICE REPORT TO VERIFY THAT
THEY QUALIFY. CURRENTLY
SURVIVORS MAY BE DENIED CAL B.
C. B. FOR NON COOPERATION WITH
POLICE OR INABILITY TO GARNER
POLICE REPORT WHICH OFTEN IS NOT
AVAILABLE IN CASES WHERE SERIOUS
INJURY OR DEATH IS WHAT'S CALLED
BY THE VERY SAME PEOPLE YOU NEED
A REPORT FROM. HOWEVER THERE IS
CAREER FLEXIBILITY THAT IS
GRANTED TO OF- DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
VICTIM SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS IN
HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS.
THIS PROVISION IS ASKING FOR
THAT SAME FLEXIBILITY IN THIS
CASE. THEREFORE IT WOULD
PROHIBIT THE NILE BASED SOLELY
ON THE CONTENTS OF A POLICE
REPORT IN CASES WHERE SERIOUS
INJURY OR DEATH. WAS CAUSED BY
POLICE. THIRD IN CASES INVOLVING
POLICE USE OF FORCE SB EIGHT
THREE EIGHT WOULD BAR EXCLUSION
BASED ON WHETHER THE VICTIM OR
FAMILY COOPERATED WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT DURING THE CRIME.
THIS BILL IS STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT
IF IN FACT IT. WILL MAKE AN
IMPORTANT IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF
VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE. SO
HERE WITH ME TODAY I WANT TO
WELCOME UP TO WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT GABRIEL GARCIA WITH YOU
YOU FOR LIFE WHENEVER BILL
SPONSORS FOLLOWED BY THE
REMAINING A MEMBER AND LEADER IN
THE CRIME SURVIVORS FOR SAFETY
AND JUSTICE COMMUNITY. VENTURA
DRIVE YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR VICE CHAIR
MEMBERS WHEN IS THE RIGOROUS
YEAH ON THE POLICY AND ADVOCACY
DIRECTOR FOR YOU TO LIVE WHERE
TO ME BASED ORGANIZATION AND
OPEN CALIFORNIA. THAT SERVES.
VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME
SPECIFICALLY OUR FLAGSHIP
HOSPITAL BASED PROGRAM SERVES BY
ONLY INJURED PATIENTS AT THEIR
BEDSIDE AND BEYOND AND OUR
HOMICIDE RESPONSE PROGRAM. WE
REACH OUT TO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE
FAMILY IN OAKLAND THAT LOSE A
LOVED ONE TO GUN VIOLENCE ONE
THE MOST CRUCIAL THINGS WE COULD
DO FOR THE SURVIVORS THESE
VICTIMS. IS CONNECTING TO VICTIM
COMPENSATION. THROUGH THE VICTIM
COMMONS PRO COUNTY CD. WE CAN
HELP MOMS WHO WANT TO BURY THEIR
SONS WITH DIGNITY. WHO HAVE NO
OTHER MEANS TO DO SO. WE ARE
ABLE TO CONNECT VIA ONLY INJURED
PATIENTS FOR- TO COST TO COVER
THEIR MEDICAL BILLS. AND WE ARE
ABLE TO WORK WITH OTHER
SURVIVORS TO GIVE THEM MENTAL
HEALTH COUNSELING TO BEGIN THE
HEALING PROCESS. NOW I'VE TALKED
TO MOMS WHO LOST THEIR CHILDREN
GUN VIOLENCE AND THAT THEY TELL
ME THAT THIS SUPPORT IS LIFE
CHANGING. UNFORTUNATELY AS WE
STAND RIGHT NOW MANY FOLKS
BECAUSE OF STRICT ELIGIBILITY
REQUIREMENTS ARE BLOCKED OUT OF
RECEIVING. THOSE HUMAN RESOURCES
THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR
VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE. EVEN
THOUGH FROM TWENTY THIRTEEN TO
TWENTY EIGHTEEN. POLICE
EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE WAS A
SIXTH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR
BLACK MEN. THEIR FAMILIES HAVE
EFFECTIVELY BEEN LOCKED OUT OF
THE SEATING RESOURCES SB EIGHT
THREE EIGHT WHICH CHANGE THAT.
OUT CALIFORNIA BEEN A LEADER IN
PLACE ACCOUNTABILITY AND REFORM
THIS BILL IS NOT ABOUT THAT IT'S
NOT ABOUT A SIGNING BLAME
HOLDING OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE
THIS BILL IS STRICTLY ABOUT
PROVIDING HEALING RESOURCES TO
TRAUMA SURVIVORS AND THOSE WHO
ARE THE MOST MARGINALIZED OUR
COMMUNITIES. BECAUSE OUR SYSTEM
HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO XFX ACCEPT
THEM FROM THE HUMAN RESOURCES.
WE CANNOT BEGIN TO HEAL THE
RELATIONSHIP AND A TRUST BETWEEN
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THREE
MEMBERS WHEN WE ARE NOT- TAKING
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT HARM.
AND RECOGNIZING THAT HEALING IS
TO TAKE PLACE. THAT'S WHY WE ARE
PROUD TO CO SPONSOR S. B. EIGHT
THREE EIGHT AND RESPECTFULLY
HUMBLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT WEEK-
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MINIMIZE SHERIFF- MY NAME IS
ANYTHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME TODAY. I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO
THE IMPORTANCE OF SB EIGHT
THIRTY EIGHT FOR ACCESS VICTIM
ASSISTANCE. I HOPE THAT MY
PERSPECTIVE AS AN IMPACTED
COMMUNITY MEMBER. WILL HELP
SHINE A LIGHT IN THE HOUSE
SYSTEMS IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED.
FURTHER HARM CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS WHILE THEY
EXPERIENCING. UNSPEAKABLE
TRAGEDY. ELEVEN YEARS AGO. I
RECEIVED A CALL I DON'T THINK
ANYONE IN THIS ROOM EVER WANTS
TO GET. INFORMING ME THAT MY
SISTER WELL EXPERIENCING MENTAL
CRISIS. THE COMMUNITY CLINIC
WHERE SHE WAS RECEIVING CARE WAS
SHOT AND KILLED. BY FOUR
SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES. IT ALL
HAPPENED WITHIN A MATTER OF
MINUTES. OF A NON EMERGENCY CALL
BEING PLACED THE DISPATCH OF THE
FORMER'S FUNDERS ONE WAS A FIELD
TRAINING OFFICER AND ANOTHER WAS
JUST FRESHLY ONE WEEK ON THE
JOB. THAT WAS VERY DAY AS WE
WERE JUST PIECING TOGETHER THE
EVENTS. A FAMILY MEMBER WENT TO
THE STATION TO INQUIRE INTO HOW
THE SITUATION COULD HAVE
ESCALATED SO QUICKLY. INDICATING
THE STATION CAPTAIN PROVIDED
VERY FEW DETAILS INDICATING THE
INFORMATION WAS BEING WITHHELD
WHILE THEY WERE INVESTIGATING A
POTENTIAL CRIME. AND SAID WITH
ASTONISHING A DIFFERENCE THAT
SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET TO CHOOSE
WHEN IT'S OUR TIME TO GO. I
REFLECT OFTEN ABOUT STATEMENT.
AND HOW IT CONTINUES TO
ACCURATELY IN CAPSULE IT
POSSIBLY. AND DIFFICULTIES
FRIENDLY'S MARGINALIZED BY THE
EXPERIENCE OF STATE VIOLENCE
FACE IN FINDING THE RIGHT
PATHWAY. ANY ENTRY POINT FOR
CARE STABILIZATION AND REPAIR.
THE FIRST INJUSTICE OCCURS WITH
THE LOSS OF LIFE MEDICINAL
INJUSTICES ACCRUE LIKE INTEREST
ON DEBT. INFORMATION WITHHELD
ACCESS TO MEDICAL RECORDS THAT
BREACH HEALTH PRIVACY AND
DENIGRATION OF THOSE KILLED WHO
CAN'T RESPOND THE
CHARACTERIZATIONS BY PUBLIC
INFORMATION OFFICERS. OR MEDIA
STATEMENTS. WHERE WOULD YOU
DIRECTOR CONSTITUENT THE
CONSTITUENT OF A CULTURE OFFICE
TODAY EITHER ASK FOR HELP TO PAY
FOR CREMATION. OF A LOVED ONE'S
BODY DESECRATED BY GUN VIOLENCE
IN THIS WAY. CALIFORNIA NEARLY
TWO HUNDRED RESIDENTS TO POLICE
VIOLENCE ANNUALLY. THE
PHENOMENON IS NOT NEW IT IS NOT
ABATED DESPITE COMMUNITY PLEASE
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO
ENACT OTHER POLICY CHANGES TO
MAKE THESE KILLINGS LESS
FREQUENT. AND WHILE THAT WORK IS
HAPPENING WE STILL HAVE FAMILIES
IN NEED OF CARE AND SUPPORT.
THIS BILL IS DESIGNED RECOGNIZES
THAT AT THE ROOT OF VIOLENCE IS
ONE HOUSEHOLDS AND COMMUNITIES
ARE THE STABILIZE AFTER VIOLENT
EVENTS. WE HAVE TO MEET THE PAIN
AND SUFFERING OF THE MOMENT WITH
A MODICUM OF HUMANITY WITH
MULTIPLE ON RAMPS FOR SURVIVORS
TO START THE ROAD REPAIR.
SOMETIMES THIS MAY LOOK LIKE
SEEKING CARE WITHOUT GETTING A
POLICE REPORT TO CERTIFY NEED
FOR HELP. WE HAVE TO INTERRUPT
ALL CYCLES OF VIOLENCE WITH
INTERVENTIONS ROOTED IN CARE.
WITHOUT THIS RESOURCE THERE'S
UNEVEN ACCESS TO SUPPORT
SYSTEMS. SOME IMPACTED COMMUNITY
MEMBERS LIVING AREAS BLESSED
WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
LIKE YOU FOR LIFE FOR ORGANIZERS
HAVE BECOME SEASON AND PATCHING
TOGETHER WRAPAROUND CARE FOR
FAMILIES. OTHERS ARE EVENTUALLY
CONNECTING TO NETWORKS OF
EXISTING SURVIVORS WE PROVIDE
FREE AND MOSTLY DEMANDING LABOR.
THE FAMILIES OVERWHELMED BY
TRAGEDY BUT IN DESPERATE NEED
FOR SPACE BUT HIS JUDGMENT FREE.
THROWS POLICYMAKERS ARE YOUR
JUDITH SPORT SB EIGHT THREE
EIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LISTEN
TO OUR YOUTH ORGANIZER. WHO ARE
COSPONSORING SPELL THANK YOU.
THANK. FORD PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THAT
YOU SUPPORT THANK YOU.
TRANSACTION MISTER ON BEHALF OF
PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIA PROUD TO SPONSOR SB
EIGHT THREE EIGHT ALSO IN
SUPPORT SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA
. GOOD AFTERNOON GOING BACK IS
FOR THE ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON GREGORY FOR THOSE
INITIATE JUSTICE STRONG SUPPORT
. SANDRA WHAT SOME VOLUNTEER
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN
SUPPORT. PROVOCA MARKETS WITH
BRADY CAMPAIGN AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. SIX OTHER BEHALF OF THE
ACLU CALIFORNIA ACTION IN
SUPPORT. ZENI I AM WITH MY FOR
LIVES AND WE SUPPORT. MARY LOU
ROSATO MOMS DEMAND VOLUNTEER IN
SUPPORT. A LITTLE- WITH
CALIFORNIA'S FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE PRAKASH SPONSOR AND
SUPPORT AND ALSO. ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA- PUBLIC DEFENDERS.
EXACERBATED SOME HALF OF CCGS
SUPPORT. DAN GOLDSTINE ON BEHALF
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
ACTION PARTNERSHIP IN SUPPORT.
MESONS ON BEHALF OF CRIME
SERVICE CRIMES VERSUS EIGHTEEN
JUSTICE PRAKASH CONCERT AND
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE IN FULL SUPPORT THANK
YOU TO HAVE ANY OTHER SUPPORTERS
THING NINE DO HAVE LEAD
OPPOSITION. TWO MINUTES. THANK
YOU. MAY IT PLEASE THE- MATTER
CHAIR- I MATTHEW GRECO HERE IN
OPPOSITION- TO SB EIGHT THIRTY
EIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION THE SAN DIEGANS
AGAINST CRIME IN THE CITY- THE
SAN DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S. ASSOCIATION SB
THIRTY EIGHT WOULD REVISE THE
DEFINITION OF CRIME. TO INCLUDE
WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL SUSTAIN
SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR DEATH
AS A RESULT OF THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS USE OF
FORCE. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS
ARRESTED. URGED WITH CONVICTED
OF ANY COMMITTING ANY CRIME SB
EIGHT THIRTY WOULD PROHIBIT THE
CALIFORNIA VICTIM COMPENSATION
PROGRAM FROM DENYING FUNDS BASED
ON THE VICTIM'S INVOLVEMENT IN
THE CRIME VICTIMS FAILURE TO
COOPERATE OR THE CONTENTS OF A
POLICE REPORT OR THE LACK
THEREOF. CALVI C. P. MAY DENY
FUNDS ONLY IF THE VICTIM IS
CONVICTED OF A VIOLENT FELONY
THAT RESULTED IN DEATH OR
SERIOUS BODILY INJURY. IF THE
VICTIM IS DECEASED FUNDS MAY
ONLY BE DENIED IF THE VICTIM
PERSONALLY INFLICTED SERIOUS
BODILY INJURY OR DEATH ON
ANOTHER PERSON AT THE TIME AND
LOCATION OF THE INCIDENT ON
WHICH THE CLAIM OF FUNDS IS
BASED. SB EIGHT THIRTY EIGHT HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO LEAD TO REALLY
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. FOR
INSTANCE A PERPETRATOR COULD
SHOOT A PERSON AT ONE LOCATION.
AND FLEE. IF THE KILLER LATER
SHOT AT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO AVOID
ARREST AT A SEPARATE LOCATION.
AND WAS SHOT. THAT KILLER WOULD
BE ELIGIBLE FOR CON COMPENSATION
FOR AN INJURY INFLICTED AT THE
TIME OF REST. THE RESTITUTION
FUND IS LIMITED AND SHOULD BE
RESERVED FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME.
PERSONS WHO ARE UNLAWFULLY
INJURED OR UNLAWFULLY KILLED BY
POLICE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO
COMPENSATION. THIS BILL ALLOWS
PERSONS WHO ARE LAWFULLY INJURED
OR KILLED WHILE ENGAGING IN
SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS CRIMES TO
DEMAND COMPENSATION UNLESS THEY
FALL INTO ONE OF TWO VERY
LIMITED EXCEPTIONS. WE BELIEVE
THE VICTIMS COMPENSATION FUND IS
AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF A CRIME
VICTIMS PATH TO HEALING. HOWEVER
THE AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION
AVAILABLE IN THE FUND IS VERY
LIMITED AND THE OVER BREAST OF
THIS LEGISLATION WOULD SEVERELY
LIMIT ACCESS TO FUNDS TO TRULY
DESERVING INDIVIDUALS AND
THEREFORE WOULD HAVE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE REASONS
WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THANK
YOU. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE IT WILL
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
OR DISCLOSURE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
MODERATOR IF YOU'D PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL WILL BEGIN. IF YOU'D LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THE
ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL GO TO
LINE ONE FIFTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON REBECCA
GONZALES FOR THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND. ONE ONE
FIFTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
BOETTICHER MEMBERS RANDY PERRY
WITH THEIR LEADERS. ON BEHALF OF
POOR ECONOMIC POSITION. THANK
YOU M. NO ONE ELSE IN HERE AT
THIS TIME THANK YOU TO OUR
WITNESSES WILL NOT BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO THE MEMBERS I
DO HAVE A QUESTION- WHEN
SOMEBODY IS SEEKING FUNDS- IN
THIS MATTER. IS THE INSURANCE
THAT'S PROVIDED FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT ENGAGEMENT- WHETHER
IT'S AN OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTING OR NOT HIDE IT DOES
THAT PLAY A PART IN THE VICTIM'S
FUND. YEAH GREAT QUESTION SO
CURRENTLY HOUSES THE CALIFORNIA
VICTIM COMPENSATION BOARD WORKS
IS THAT IT'S UP FRONT MONIES SO
LET'S SAY IN THIS CASE THE BILL
PASSES AND THERE IS AN
INDIVIDUAL THAT IS KILLED BY
POLICE VIOLENCE- AND AT THAT
TIME YOU KNOW THEY MAY BE
SEEKING A SETTLEMENT WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT BUT THEY NEED FUNDS
RIGHT THEN AND THERE. TO PAY
FOR- BUREAU OF YOUR SERVICES SO
THEY GET THE FUNDS THERE AND
THEN IF THEY GET A SETTLEMENT
OUT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THEIR
INSURANCE AND SO FORTH THEY HAVE
TO PAY THE MONEY BACK. TO THE
VICTIMS COMPENSATION BOARD SO
IT'S MONEY TO UTILIZE IN THE
MOMENT AND IF A SETTLEMENT IS
PROVIDED TO COVER THOSE FUNDS
ARE THOSE SERVICES. THEY HAVE TO
GIVE THE MONEY BACK THEY WERE
GIVEN UP FRONT. OKAY AND THEN
HAVE THERE BEEN AMOUNTS THAT-
FOR THIS UP FRONT MONEY ISN'T IT
AS A FORMULA BASED ON AGE OR
IMPACT OF THE FAMILY OR- AS AS
THE- AS THE CURRENT CALIFORNIA
VICTIMS- COME SUPPORT SENSE
THERE ARE CAPS. ON SEVERAL
SERVICES AND THAT IS A GOING. TO
BE APPLIED ACROSS SO THERE ARE
CAPS. DO I DON'T HAVE THE SPOTS
CAP ON A SINGLE. THAT PROVIDED
BECAUSE- ARE FOR MENTAL- THERE
FOR CRIME CLEAN UP THERE FOR US
A FUNERAL SERVICES THERE FOR.
MENTAL HEALTH MEDICAL ANYTHING
THAT THE INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT
HAVE COVERAGE UNDER INSURANCE.
EVEN IF THERE'S A GO FUND ME
PAGE THAT DISQUALIFIES THE
INDIVIDUAL TO APPLY FOR CAL B.
C. B. IT DISQUALIFIES DOES
DISQUALIFIED BECAUSE THAT SHOWS
THAT YOU HAVE MEANS OF PAYING.
FOR A SERVICE THAT YOU'RE ASKING
SUPPORT FOR AND THIS COVERS
FUNERAL SERVICES AS WELL AS
COVERS FUNERAL SERVICES AS WELL
OKAY- I DO APPRECIATE IT- AND
OTHER MEMBERS WOULD YOU GUYS
LIKE TO COMMENT OR- HAVE A-
SENATOR WHICH OF A- I SUPPORTED
THIS BILL. LAST YEAR WHEN
SENATOR LEYVA ACTUALLY CARRIED
IT- I JUST WANTED TO. JUST FOR
THE RECORD CONFIRM. WHETHER OR
NOT AND- THESE FUNDS ARE
AVAILABLE ONCE THE
INVESTIGATIONS ARE COMPLETED- SO
I'M ASSUMING GOING TO TRIAL OR
AT WHAT POINT ARE THESE FUNDS.
DECIDED UPON IT THAT. THE VICTIM
WAS THE RESULT OF VIOLENCE AND
NOT- AND IN MY SECOND PART WOULD
BE RIGHT WHETHER OR NOT THEY AND
THEY RECEIVE THESE FUNDS IF THEY
COMMITTED. A CRIME RIGHT SO IN.
MANTRA IF YOU ALLOW ME TO TI¾N
SOMETHING THAT THE OPPOSING
WITNESSED- MENTION. SO RIGHT NOW
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN JAIL
PROBATION PAROLE FOR VIOLENT I'M
OFFENSE WOULD NOT QUALIFY SEVEN
INDIVIDUAL WAS ARRESTED IS- IN
JAIL CURRENTLY THEY WOULDN'T BE
ABLE TO APPLY EVEN IF THEY WERE
BODILY THEY HAD A BODILY INJURY.
IN THAT SENSE I ALSO WANT TO
NOTE THAT THE EXAMPLE GIVEN IF
INDIVIDUAL SHOOTS AT ONE
LOCATION AND THEN IS FOUND IN A
DIFFERENT LOCATION AND THEY WERE
THEN SHOT BY POLICE OFFICERS
THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE- TO CLAIM
SERVICES UNDER THIS INTENT UNDER
THE INTENT OF THIS BILL BECAUSE
THEY COMMITTED STILL A CRIME- SO
TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION IF YOU
WOULDN'T MIND ASKING IT ONE MORE
TIME I APOLOGIZE MAYBE MY WAY IF
YOU COULD. MANAGER IF I CAN TURN
TO MY WITNESS HI YES- AND BONSOR
ABSOLUTELY SO THE BILL
SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE
PERSON CANNOT RECEIVE ASSISTANCE
WHILE CHARGES ARE PENDING IT IS
ONLY ONCE THE ACTUAL KEY IF I
FOR EXAMPLE WAS INJURED BY
POLICE AND I WAS CHARGED WITH A
CRIME. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
GET ANY ASSISTANCE UNTIL THE
CHARGES AGAINST ME HAVE BEEN
RESOLVED IF I WAS CONVICTED THAT
I WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE AND NO
ONE IN JAIL OR PRISON OR ON
PAROLE IS EVER ELIGIBLE. THANK
YOUNG HERE. ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE-
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. I
APPRECIATE- MADAM CHAIR SAM
MADAM BY SIR FOR ENGAGING IN. IN
ME ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT- BILL.
SB EIGHT THIRTY EIGHT IS ASKING
MEMBERS. TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR
SURVIVORS WORRY BEEN SERIOUSLY
INJURED AND FAMILIES OF THOSE
WHO WERE KILLED IN A PROPER USE
OF FORCE BY POLICE. THEY SHOULD
NOT HAVE TO OVER THEY THEY NEED
THE SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO
OVERCOME A LOT OF THE BARRIERS
THAT COME. WITH OBTAINING
COMPENSATION. THE ULTIMATELY
THIS BILL WILL IMPROVE ACCESS TO
CRUCIAL PROGRAM FOR SURVIVORS
AND I RESPECT RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I. BILL. THANK YOU TO
HAVE HE SENATOR BRADFORD AND
MOVES THE BILL- CAN WE CALL
MOTION I'M SORRY. VOTE SB EIGHT
THIRTY EIGHT MOTIONS THE PASTOR
APPROPRIATIONS THAT ARE HA I
THOUGHT I'D GO TO ABOUT. ABOUT
FIVE BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE
SKINNER. WIENER BILLS AND THE
BILLS ON CALL THANK YOU SENATOR.
THANK YOU SKINNER ARE. IT STILL
ON CALL BUT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
WE HAVE OUR VERY OWN SENATOR
BRADFORD SB FIFTY SENATORS THE
FLOOR IS YOURS.
THREE THREE FIFTY YES YOUR
FLOOR'S YOURS ARE THINK ABOUT
YOUR ISSUE FIFTY WILL LIMIT LAW
ENFORCEMENT'S ABILITY TO STOP
PEOPLE FOR MINOR NON SAFETY
RELATED TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS
UNLESS THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT
SAFETY RELATED BASIS TO INITIATE
THE STOP. WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE
TECHNICAL CLARIFICATION TO
ENSURE THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES
CAN EXPLORE NON LAW ENFORCEMENT
APPROACHES TO TRAFFIC SAFETY. IN
DOING SO S. B. FIFTY WILL HELP
PROTECT CALIFORNIANS OF COLOR
FROM UNNECESSARY HARMS AND HELP
ENSURE PUBLIC DOLLARS DEDICATED
TO COMMUNITY SAFETY ARE USED
MORE EFFECTIVELY. PRETEXT STOPS
OR WHEN AN OFFICER STOP SOMEONE
FOR MINOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS
SUCH AS TENET WINDOWS WERE
EXPIRED REGISTRATION OR
SOMETHING HANGING FROM YOUR REAR
VIEW MIRROR TO INVESTIGATE A
HUNCH THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS
COMMITTED A MORE SERIOUS CRIME
THE STOPS WHICH REQUIRE NO
EVIDENCE OR SUSPICION OF MORE
SERIOUS CRIME DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
DATA FROM MARCH YEARS REPORT
REPORT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE WHO
WERE PERCEIVED AS BLOCK. WERE
STOPPED OVER TWICE THE RATE OF
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PERCEIVED AS
WHITE. I'M UPSET I MYSELF HAVE
BEEN STOPPED FOR ONE OF THESE
VIOLATIONS. FOUR YEARS AGO WHILE
DRIVING HOME LEAVING A FRIEND'S
HOME IN PASADENA I WAS STOPPED
BECAUSE MY LEFT HEADLIGHT. WAS
NOT WORKING WHEN I QUICKLY
EXPLAINED THAT THERE IS A SHORT
AND JUST HIT THE TOP ON THE
LIGHT AND IT MIGHT START WORKING
THEY ASKED ME TO GET OUT MY CAR.
I WAS STOPPED AT NO TIME FOR
RECKLESS DRIVING OR WEAVING OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND I WAS
SUBJECTED TO A FIELD SOBRIETY
TEST. WHICH I PASSED WITH FLYING
COLORS BUT AT THE SAME POINT I
WAS STOPPED FOR THE HEADLIGHT AT
NO TIME DID THEY SAY THEY STOP
BEFORE. THE MATTER WHICH I WAS
DRIVING TO LEAD TO A FIELD
SOBRIETY TESTS ANY RESPOND IT
WILL USUALLY CATCH GUYS LIKE YOU
AT THIS TIME OF NIGHT AT ONE AM
DRIVING DRUNK SO. ANYWAY PRIME
PRIME EXAMPLE OF ARE PROJECTED
TO TAX STOPS ARE USED. TOO MANY
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STOPPED FOR
VIOLATIONS LIKE A FAULTY
HEADLIGHTS OR EXPIRED
REGISTRATION OR SOMETHING.
HANGING FROM THE REAR VIEW
MIRROR AS STATED EARLIER AND ALL
TO ME BEING HARMED OR EVEN
KILLED. WE HEAR PLENTY STORIES
OF THE DOT- BONTA RIGHTS FULLY
PAY ABOUT PHILANDO CASTILLE.
WALTER SCOTT SANDER BRENT. BLAND
AND OTHERS WHO WERE PULLED OVER
BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. FOR LOW.
LEVEL VIOLATIONS IN ALTERING THE
LOST THEIR LIVES. AS A RESULT OF
THE STOPS. THIS BILL DOES NOT
LEGALIZE. THESE WHILE. IN FACT
WE HAVE CERTAIN CLARIFIED IN THE
BILL THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS
THE AUTHORITY TO MAIL THE
CITATIONS. THIS BILL DOES NOT
REQUIRE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
MOVE AWAY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT
ONLY ALLOWS THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO
HAVE NON POLICE. EMPLOYEES
ENFORCE THESE LOW LEVEL
VIOLATIONS. ARE AND ABILITY TO
DO SO CALIFORNIA'S ACROSS THE
STATE HAVE VOICED THEIR
CONCERNS. ABOUT RAISING CRIME A
RISING CRIME RATES I SHOULD SAY
A SPECIFIC THAT IN VIOLENT
CRIME. NOT ON PEOPLE HAVING A
BROKEN LIGHT OR SOMETHING
HANGING FROM THE REAR VIEW
MIRROR YET LAW ENFORCERS SPENDS
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR
TIME. AND RESOURCES POLICING
THESE VIOLATIONS THAT PUT NO ONE
IN IMMEDIATE DANGER- THEY STATED
ALMOST 50% OF POLICE OFFICERS
TIMES ARE ON MINOR VIOLATIONS
LIKE THAT AND NOT SERIOUS
VIOLENT CRIME. A NATIONAL POLL
CONDUCTED BY SIXTIES- CITIES
RESEARCH FOUND THAT NEARLY THREE
IN FOUR OF A VOTERS SUPPORT
BANNING TRAFFIC STOP USED. FOR
MINOR OFFENSES- AGAIN IT WAS
WITH THESE REQUIRE- IN A SIMILAR
CITIES SUCH AS PHILADELPHIA.
PITTSBURGH SAN FRANCISCO AND THE
STATE OF VIRGINIA AND NOW
CALIFORNIA WHO ARE IMPLEMENTING
SUCH PROGRAMS SUCH AS US. SB
FIFTY BUILDS ON RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THE CALIFORNIA RATIO AND
IDENTITY IDENTITY PROFILING
ADVISORY BOARD TO COMMITTEE ON
REVISIONS OF THE PLANET. YOU
KNOW CALLED IN THE CENTER FOR.
POLICING EQUITY ALL HOME-
RECOMMEND LIMITING THE
ENFORCEMENT OF MINOR TRAFFIC
OFFENSES THAT POSE LITTLE OR NO
PUBLIC SAFETY- TO THAT END I
IT'S RESPECT LESS FOR THE YEAR I
VOTE. THAT'S FINE WITH ME TODAY
IS DYING GHOSTING EXACTED
DIRECTOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION
PARTNERSHIP. AND ALSO JOINED
HERE FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
HIS RECORDS- FROM THE COMMITTEE
ON REVISION OF THE PENAL CODE.
ALL RIGHT SENATOR- WOULD YOU.
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
ALSO. YES WE HAVE X. TO
COMMITTEE- THE CLARIFY- VEHICLE
LIGHT VIOLATIONS ANA OVER THE
LICENSE PLATE. I DO APPRECIATE
THAT- LEAD WITNESS NUMBER ONE
YOU ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES YES
PERFECT NO PROBLEM. SINCE I'VE
ALREADY BEEN INTRODUCED I AM THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT ACTION PARTNERSHIP
AND WE BELIEVE THAT SB FIFTY
WOULD IMPROVE POLICE
EFFECTIVENESS. BY STRENGTHENING
COMMUNITY TRUST FOCUSING SCARCE
RESOURCES ON SERIOUS CRIME OR
PROTECTING POLICE OFFICERS AND
THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE.
SB FIFTY DOES NOT TAKE NEEDED
TOOLS AWAY FROM MASS WE HAPPEN
MAKE THE DISCRETIONARY
DETERMINATION EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AS TO WHETHER SOMETHING POSES AN
IMMEDIATE SAFETY RISK ON THE
ROAD BASED ON THE TOTALITY OF
THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS LEGAL
STANDARD DOES NOT CHANGE I WOULD
ARGUE RATHER THAT LOW RISK
SAFETY STOPS UNDERMINED THE
TRUST NEEDED TO SOLVE SERIOUS
AND VIOLENT CRIME. DATA ANALYSIS
BY P. P. I. C. NOTED THAT OF THE
THREE POINT FOUR MILLION TRAFFIC
STOPS CONDUCTED. IN CALIFORNIA
OFFICERS CONFISCATED ONLY NINE
HUNDRED AND FIVE ALL FIREARMS
THAT'S ONE CONFISCATION EVERY
THIRTY SEVEN HUNDRED STOPS. JUST
POINT 002% OF STOPS TURNED UP
GUNS REFLECTING THAT LOW LEVEL
STOPS RARELY PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF
SERIOUS CRIME. THE PRIORITISING
LOW LEVEL STOCKS AND OTHER
STATES HAS ENABLED OFFICERS TO
FOCUS ON MORE SERIOUS PUBLIC
SAFETY ISSUES. AND THEY FELT THE
QUITMAN STOPS FELL BY 80% WHILE
SAFETY STOPS ONE UP TRAFFIC
ACCIDENTS FILLS A RESULT WITH NO
INCREASE IN VIOLENT OR PROPERTY
CRIME. DATA FROM THREE POINT
FIVE MILLION TRAFFIC STOP BY ALL
OF CONNECTICUT'S POLICE
DEPARTMENT SHOWS THAT WHEN LOW
LEVEL STOP RUDY PRIORITIZE.
ARRESTS FOR D. YOU EYES INCREASE
SUGGESTING THAT OFFICERS TIME
WAS BEING USED MORE EFFECTIVELY.
THERE'S STRONG EVIDENCE THAT
MINOR SAFETY STOPS ARE NOT AN
EFFECTIVE WAY TO DECREASE
SERIOUS CRIME AND IN FACT IN
DANGER OUR POLICE AND THE
COMMUNITIES WE SERVE. THE BURNS
AND RESCUE PROTECTION STOPS ALSO
FALLS MOST HEAVILY ON BLACK
PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
FOR EXAMPLE AS RECENTLY AS
TWENTY TWENTY BLACK DRIVERS WERE
20% MORE LIKELY TO BE STOPPED
THE WHITE DRIVERS THIS ONGOING
DISPARITY. CORRODES TRUST IN
ALREADY MARGINAL I COMMUNITIES.
EREKLE RESEARCH REFLECT THAT
NECK PLEASE IN IRAQ DAM POLICE
LEGIT IS SEEN BY THE RECENT
MURDER OF TERRY NICHOLS. AND
HAVE LIMITED EFFECTIVENESS.
THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE STUDIES
THAT HAS ANALYZE BODY WORN
CAMERA FOOTAGE AND IT'S FOUND A
SUBTLE BUT CLEAR PATTERN. DURING
STOPS OFFICERS SPOKE TO BLACK
MEN IN A LESS RESPECTFUL AND
LESS FRIENDLY TONE AND THEY DID
TO WHITE MEN. THIS DISPARITY IN
TREATMENT IS REAL AND HELPS TO
FUEL THE MISTRUST BETWEEN POLICE
AND THE BLOCKING YOU KNOW.
CHANGING A LOT OF. LOW LEVEL
STOCKS CAN DECREASE THE STOCKS
WILL IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY FOR
BOTH PLEASE START CONSTITUENTS
WHILE REDUCING WHILE REDUCING
RACIAL DISPARITY IN Q. NEXT
WEEK- GOOD AFTERNOON. RECALL AND
SENIOR STAFF COUNSEL FOR THE
COMMITTEE OUR VISION OF THE
PENAL CODE. THIS BILLS BASED ON
THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER IT ANSWER
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THANK YOU
THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
SUPPORT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
YOUR ORGANIZATION. AND THAT YOU
SUPPORT. THE DOCUMENTS-
PROSECUTORS LINES OF CALIFORNIA
SMART CHOICES CALIFORNIA AND
VOICES FOR PROGRESS- IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. NICCOLO
DELUCA HERE WE HAVE THE CITY OF
BERKELEY IN SUPPORT. PROSECUTOR
FOR THE GREATER SECOND EARLY IN
SUPPORT. ANYWAY WITH THIS YEAR
YOU CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
OCCURS WITH DISABILITY RIGHTS
CALIFORNIANS IN SUPPORT. GOING
BACK A CELL BAKER CENTER FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS IN SUPPORT AND
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION. DENIGRATE ARM ON
BEHALF OF THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE
FOR CIVIL RIGHTS IN SUPPORT.
GREGORY FISHER WITH INITIATE
JUSTICE STRONG SUPPORT. A LITTLE
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE IN STRONG SUPPORT.
STEPHEN CAL CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS
FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN SUPPORT
. DRAMA COOPER MCCARTY LOT HERE
ON BEHALF OF LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AS FUNDING AS
WITH THE ANTI RECIDIVISM
COALITION STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU IF WE DON'T HAVE
ANY OTHER PEOPLE SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT ON THIS BILL WILL GO TO
A LEAD OPPOSITION YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. THE MANAGER COREY CELLS
ALONG BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL SIMPLY
PUT WE OBJECT TO THE POLICY OF
KEEPING LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM
ENFORCING THE LAW. THE LOW LEVEL
INFRACTIONS DESCRIBED BY THE
BILL ARE RELATED TO VEHICLE
SAFETY FOR IDENTIFICATION IF
THEY'RE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE
KEPT ON THE BOOKS PEACE OFFICER
SHOULD NOT BE TOLD THEY MUST NOT
ENFORCE THEM UNLESS THERE'S A
SEPARATE VIOLATION. ALSO TRAFFIC
STOPS FOR VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED
BY THIS BILL ROUTINELY RESULT IN
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS FOR MUCH
MORE SERIOUS OFFENSES. MANY
CASES GUNS ARE TAKEN OFF THE
STREET DRUGS ARE SEIZED AND
OTHER CRIMES AREN'T COVERED IN
THE PROCESS OF A TRAFFIC STOP.
THIS BILL WILL NOT ONLY IMPACT
TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT BUT LAWMAKER
COMMUNITIES LESS SAFE THANK YOU
THANK YOU. MANAGER THANK YOU.
AGAIN I MATTHEW GRECO ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA DEPT BY
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
THE SAN DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION THE SAN
DIEGANS AGAINST CRIME. YLIDES OF
PEACE OFFICERS TO INITIATE STOPS
FOR MINOR OFFENSES SERVES A
LEGITIMATE PUBLIC SAFETY
PURPOSE. AND THE ELIMINATION OF
THIS OF FORTY YOU WILL NOT
ADDRESS THE AUTHORS CONCERNED
ABOUT THE UNDERLYING BIAS OF
POLICE OFFICERS. WHY DO I SAY
THAT. WELL CALIFORNIA DOES IN
FACT HAVE A RACIAL OUR HISTORY
OF RACIAL DISPARITY IN POLICE
TRAFFIC CONTACTS THAT PROPONENTS
OF SB FIFTY POINT TWO IN SUPPORT
OF THE NEED FOR THIS BILL.
FORTUNATELY EMPIRICAL DATA. IF
THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS
THAN THE DATA. TELLS US
SOMETHING ELSE. THE ELIMINATION
OF TRAFFIC CONTACTS FOR MINOR
INFRACTIONS DOES NOT ELIMINATE
RACIAL DISPARITIES FOR EXAMPLE.
THE NATIONAL POLICE DEPARTMENT
HAD A TRACK RECORD OF RACIAL
DISPARITIES FOR TRAFFIC STOPS ME
EMBRACED SB FIFTY LIKE POLICIES
TO ADDRESS THOSE RACIAL
DISPARITIES. UNFORTUNATELY THE
RACIAL DISPARITIES PERSIST TO
THIS DAY. AND SOMETHING ELSE
HAPPENED IN NASHVILLE VIOLENT
CRIME AND VEHICLE THEFTS WERE UP
AFTER THE POLICY CHANGE. AFTER
THE POLICY CHANGE THAT THE SAME
THING HAPPENED IN LA. THEY
INSTITUTED THIS POLICY LAST
YEAR. WHAT HAPPENED CLIMB WAS
UP. IN THE RACIAL DISPARITIES
PERSISTED THANK YOU. WE'LL GO
TO. PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
POSE THIS BILL PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION AND POSITION.
JULIE THIS PERSON WITH THE
SEMOLINA CONCERTS APARTMENT IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. FRENSHAM
OF THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION ALSO A
POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATIONS OF
CLAREMONT CORONA COLONNA PALACE
VERDES NEWPORT BEACH PLUS KIND
OF THE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION
UPLAND KILL A SANTA ANA BURBANK
MARIA THE ARCADIA. RIVERSIDE PO
A- ASSOCIATION MARIN COUNTY ON
OPPOSITION THANK YOU WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE BLUES
JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION POSITION MODERATOR
IF YOU'D PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL WILL BEGIN. ACTUALLY
SPECIFIED SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME WE'LL START WITH ONE
ONE FIFTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON REBECCA GONZALEZ
OF THE NATIONALIST ASSOCIATION
OF SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
. ONE ONE SIXTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. CONSEILLERS INDIVISIBLE
COMPANIES THE WRONG END OF THE
PREVIOUS STATEMENTS ON THE COURT
. ONE ONE SIXTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THE MANAGER MEMBERS NOT
USE I REALLY ONLY HAVE THE
ASSOCIATION FOR LOS ANGELES
DEPUTY SHERIFFS THE CALIFORNIA
PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. ONE ONE
SIXTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE
ROSE ON BEHALF OF INDIVISIBLE
CALIFORNIA STATE STRONG IN
SUPPORT. FIRSTLINE ONE SIXTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ANYTHING
HEARING FROM THE CALIFORNIA
QUITE LITERALLY COULD BE AND
FOR. AND LINE ONE FIFTY THREE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. SHOULD BE THE
LAST. ONE ONE FIFTY THREE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY AND
THERE IS NO OTHER- QUESTIONS
THANK YOU AT THIS TIME THANK YOU
TO ALL THE WITNESSES WILL NOT
BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO
MEMBERS MEMBERS ANY COMMENTS.
SENATOR SKINNER- YES SERVING ON
THE PENAL CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE
WE- OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE
REVISION OF THE PENAL CODE. WE
BOTH REVIEWED LOTS OF DATA THAT
SHOWED- THAT OF COURSE NUMBER
ONE THE DATA WE'VE COLLECTED
SHOWS THERE'S A DISPROPORTIONATE
TO- STOPS BY RE. THAT THE
BREAKDOWN OF STOP SHOWS THAT
THEY ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY
PEOPLE OF COLOR FIRST AND
FOREMOST AND SECONDARILY THAT
THOSE STOPS THEN ALSO RESULTED
IN INCREASED- THE- CIRCUMSTANCES
THAT LED TO NOT CREATE OUTCOMES
IN TERMS OF THE ENCOUNTERS WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT- AND WE ALSO
HEARD LOTS OF TESTIMONY AROUND-
THE BENEFITS OF. NOT OF
LESSENING THESE TYPE OF STOPS SO
AS WAS ALREADY WE ALREADY HEARD
TESTIMONY FROM THE ACT COMMITTEE
STAFF THIS IS A PRIORITY BILL
FOR OR RECOMMENDED TO POLICY BY
THE REVISION ON COMMITTEE THE-
COMMITTEE ON THE VISION OF THE
PENAL CODE. AND SO I SUPPORT IT
AND WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE THE
BILL THANK YOU I'D ALSO LIKE TO
STATE I CO AUTHORED THIS I
APPRECIATE THAT- SENATOR AYE
BRADFORD WAS LIKE CLOSE. YES I
WANT TO THINK OF COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MORE POORLY TESTIMONY
FOR THOSE FOLKS IN SUPPORT AND
IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OPPOSITION TO THESE
BILLS LAUGHABLE ALL ONE THING
THAT THEY DID SAY THAT WAS TRUE
IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF STOPS
ARE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE. AND
IS IT LEADS TO WEAPONS AND DRUGS
BEING FOUND BUT WHAT THEY FAIL
TO MENTION IS THAT THE MAJORITY
OF FOLKS WERE FOUND WITH GUNS
AND WHAT- DRUGS IN THEIR CAR OR
WHITE NOT BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY
CLEARLY STATED THE MAJORITY OF
THE STOPS. OR FOR BLOCKS AND
BROWN PEOPLE THAT LEAD TO A
WEAPON AND DRUG SEIZURES BUT
THEY FAILED TO MENTION THAT IT'S
NOT US THAT HAVE THE OF A DRUG
SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR. YOUR
RIFLE THANK. YOU COULD YOU CALL
THE ROLL PLACE. SB FIFTY MY TO
PAY AS A MAN TO APPROACH.
SENATOR HA HI BOB HI TO ABOUT.
TWO ABOUT NOW BRADFORD I
BRADFORD AYE SKINNER AYE SKINNER
AYE WE- WIENER HIGH. THANK YOU
FOR TO ONE. THE BILL IS OUT I'D
ALSO LIKE- SPECIFICALLY LIFT THE
CALL I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE
NUMBERS. BEFORE YEAH. MISTER
CALDERON PREFER NINE SB THREE
FORTY NINE. CURRENT VOTE IS TWO
ZERO SKINNER. THE CARD IS. FIVE
HI BILLS ARE NOT. BILLS OUT.
FIVE ZERO. AND THEN. EIGHT
THIRTY EIGHT AM TO PASS A PRO.
CURRENT FORTY. WIENER WE AYE.
FIVE ZERO THE BILL IS OUT. HERE
WE WILL ACTUALLY MOVE IN SENATOR
BRADFORD- WE WILL MOVE TO
SENATOR SKINNER SO SHE CAN. HER
HAD. TWO BILLS- BECAUSE SHE HAS
ANOTHER. IT'LL BE QUICK. THERE'S
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. OKAY. WHAT
THERE. YOU CAN WAS.
IS THAT MY CLIENT CODE OKAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH- MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS- S. B. TWO FIFTY FOUR
AND OF COURSE I WAS TALKING
POINTS HERE. OKAY CALIFORNIA
USED TO ALLOW FOR GREATER
JOURNALIST AND MEDIA NEWS MEDIA
ACCESS TO OUR PRISONS FONG WHAT
S. B. TWO FIFTY FOUR. IS A
SUNSHINE MEASURE THAT RESTORES
JOURNALISTS ACCESS TO CALIFORNIA
PRISONS IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE
ACCESS TO OUR JAILS- BECAUSE AS
WE ALL KNOW WITH THREE ALIGNMENT
MANY PEOPLE WHO PREVIOUSLY WOULD
HAVE SERVED THEIR TERMS IN STATE
PRISON NOW SERVE THEIR TERMS IN.
A COUNTY JAILS THE BILL ALSO
OPENS ACCESS TO MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE AND OTHER STATE
OFFICIALS- PRIOR TO THE NINETEEN
NINETIES AS I MENTIONED I OPENED
WE ALLOWED MUCH GREATER ACCESS-
WHY DO WE NEED THIS. IF WE HAVE
NOTHING TO HIDE THEN WE WOULD
ALLOW SUCH ACCESS BECAUSE IT
ALLOWS FOR EITHER PUBLIC
OFFICIALS FOR JOURNALISTS TO BE
ABLE TO FOR EXAMPLE SEE
CONDITIONS IN OUR JAILS OR
PRISONS CDF THE PRESENCE OF
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS PERHAPS
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF SUCH
PROGRAMS. ODD ARE WHAT TYPES OF
HEALTH- CARE IS OFFERED
INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH CARE.
THEN ACTUALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT
OTHER STATES THIS WOULD ALIGN
CALIFORNIA WITH A NUMBER OF
OTHER STATES TO PROVIDE MUCH
MORE MEDIAN PUBLIC ACCESS
INCLUDING FLORIDA MAINE AND
RHODE ISLAND- ALLOW ME TO HAVE
MY WITNESSES AND SUPPORT SPEAK
AND THEN I WILL IN MY- INDIANS
AND- IN ANY QUESTIONS I CAN GIVE
YOU MORE SPECIFICS IF YOU ARE-
IF YOU- HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL
MICHAEL BOUGHT TWO IS AN
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST FOR NBC
BAY AREA AND A MEMBER OF. THE
JOURNALISTS NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AND BRITNEY BAR SAUDI WHOSE
GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE
CALIFORNIA NEWSPAPER PUBLISHERS
ASSOCIATION THANK YOU TWO
MINUTES ONLY. SURE HI GOOD
AFTERNOON I'LL SKIP THE
INTRODUCTION- SINCE CENTER
SKINNER GOT IT- I ALSO DO
TEACHER. CLASSES SAME QUESTION
SO I WILL ADD THAT IN- AND I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT SENATE BILL TWO
FIFTY FOUR BECAUSE OF THE
DESPERATE NEED TO IMPROVE
TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT IN
CALIFORNIA'S JAILS AND PRISONS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT
SENSATIONALIZING OR GLORIFYING
CRIME IT'S ABOUT IT PROVING
ACCESS THE GOVERNMENTAL
INSTITUTIONS WERE CALIFORNIA HAS
FALLEN BEHIND MANY OTHER STATES.
RESTORING MEDIA ACCESS WOULD
SHINE A MUCH NEEDED LIGHT INTO
SOME OF THE DARKEST CORNERS OF
THE STATE WHICH REMAIN WALLED
OFF FROM PUBLIC SCRUTINY. LOOK
NO FURTHER THAN SANTA CLARA
COUNTY WHERE I WORK- IN THE
SHERIFF'S OF RESIGNATION LAST
FALL IN THE FACE OF A CIVIL
CORRUPTION TRIAL. THAT WAS BASED
IN PART ON MISMANAGEMENT AND
CORRUPTION ALLEGATIONS AT THE
COUNTY JAIL. ON A MUCH LARGER
BONTA LARGER SCALE CONSIDER THE
YEARS LONG HEALTHCARE FIASCO
INTERSTATES PRISON SYSTEM.
RUSS'S COVERAGE OF IMPORTANT
STORIES LIKE THESE IS HAMSTRUNG
BY OVERLY RESTRICTIVE POLICIES
THAT KEEP US FROM SPEAKING WITH
THE INCARCERATED PEOPLE IMPACTED
BY THESE FAILURES. SB TWO FIFTY
FOUR WOULD ALSO ENABLE WATCHDOGS
TO BETTER TRACK THE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN PUBLIC MONEY WE SPEND
ON JAILS AND PRISONS EACH YEAR.
AND PULL BACK THE CURTAIN FOR
THE PUBLIC TO ASSESS THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF RECENT CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM EFFORTS. AND IT'S
NOT JUST ABOUT EXPOSING THE BAD.
BETTER ACCESS MEANS THE PRESS
CAN ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE POSITIVE
PROGRAMS AND WORK BEING CARRIED
OUT BEHIND PRISON WALLS AND
HUMANIZE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
TURNED THEIR LIVES AROUND DURING
THEIR INCARCERATION. SO I URGE
ALL OF YOU TO SUPPORT SB TWO
FIFTY FOUR BECAUSE IMPROVING
TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT CAN
ONLY LEAD TO SAFER AND MORE
EFFECTIVE INSTITUTIONS THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
AS THE CENTER MENTIONED FOR A
BAR SAUDI WITH THE CALIFORNIA
NEWS PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION.
HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB TWO
FIFTY FOUR. I THINK IT'S
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT WE
RESTORE MEDIA ACCESS TO PRISONS
AND JAILS AND THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA AS THE SENATOR
MENTIONED WE HAVEN'T HAD
MEANINGFUL ACCESS. SINCE
REALIGNMENT WHICH WAS A
SUBSTANTIAL OVERHAUL OF OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND
CURRENT REGULATIONS ONLY
PROVIDED JOURNALISTS WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR THREEPENCE THREE
PENCILS AND ONE NOTEPAD TO
CONDUCT INTERVIEWS. AND GIVEN
THE OF THE EVOLUTION OF MEDIA
IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE BE ABLE TO
INCLUDE DIGITAL. STORYTELLING AS
WELL AND I WILL STICK AROUND FOR
QUESTIONS RESPECTFULLY OR DRIVE
OUT THANK YOU THANK YOU DO WE
HAVE ANY SUPPORTERS. YES PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION THAT YOU SUPPORT
NATASHA'S FIRST MY DRESSES
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
AND WE TRY TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT
FASTER EVERYBODY. JIM LINDBERG
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
TO CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. MARCO
GEORGE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU SHE THE HUSTLE THANK
YOU. DEREK HARRIS DISABILITY
RIGHTS CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. I
SPAWNING AS WITH THE ANTI SIX
RECIDIVISM COALITION SUPPORT
THANK YOU. DRAMA A LOT HERE ON
BEHALF OF LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN ALL OF
US ARE NON TRANSPORT THANK YOU.
CANACCORD OUR MOM HAVE A GROUP
TRAINING INSTITUTE. WELL THE
NISHIKI JUSTICE STRONG SUPPORT.
WHAT POWERS OF THE CALIFORNIA
BROADCASTERS ASSOCIATION SUPPORT
ALONG WITH THE RADIO TELEVISION
DIGITAL NEWS ASSOCIATION FIRST
AMENDMENT COALITION MEDIA
ALLIANCE NATIONAL PRESS
PHOTOGRAPHERS ASSOCIATION.
SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL
JOURNALISTS AND MANY OF THE
OTHERS LIST IN THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS THANK YOU THINK KILL.
HELLO BAKER CENTER IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THE LITTLE CALIFORNIA
FOR SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND
SUPPORT. OF THE COULD NOT ON
BEHALF OF A FEEL YOU CALIFORNIA
ACTION SUPPORT THANK YOU THAT
WAS A LOT FASTER WILL GO TO
OPPOSITION NOW LEAD OPPOSITION
TO MINUTES. AND I'M SURE MEMBERS
COURSE ISN'T LONG BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL- WE'RE CONCERNED- BUT A
LONG PERSON A CUSTODIAL
FACILITIES WITH LIMITED
DISCRETION AFFORDED TO THOSE WHO
OVERSEE THE FACILITIES. COULD
RESULT IN CERTAIN INCARCERATED
PERSONS BEING GLAMORIZED BY THE
MEDIA THIS IS A CONCERN SHARED
BY PRIOR GOVERNORS WHO VETOED
SIMILAR LEGISLATION. THE BILL
GIVES NO CONSIDERATION TO HOW
MEDIA COVERAGE OF PARTICULAR
INMATES MAY IMPACT CRIME VICTIMS
AND THEIR FAMILIES. ALSO WHILE
THE BILLING KNOWLEDGE IS THAT
INSTITUTIONS SECURITY AND PUBLIC
SAFETY MAY BE THE BASIS FOR TIME
PLACE AND MANNER RESTRICTIONS ON
MEDIA VISITS. THE EFFICIENT
OPERATION OF THE JAILS NOT
CONSIDERED BY THIS BILL
TREATMENT REHABILITATIVE AND
RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES MUST BE
CONTEMPLATED ONE ALLOWING THIS
LEVEL OF ACCESS BUT AS B. TWO
FIFTY FOUR FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE PROGRAMS
FURTHER ALLOWING GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS TO VISIT COUNTY JAILS
QUOTE AT THEIR PLEASURE ON
QUOTE. NOR IS ANY LOGISTICAL AND
SECURITY CONSIDERATIONS THAT
WOULD NEED TO BE MADE IN
ANTICIPATION OF SUCH A VISIT.
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE
THANK YOU ANY OTHER LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES SAYING NONE
ANYBODY IN IN. THE CHAMBER.
SEEING NONE IT WILL MOVE NOW TO
THOSE WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE PLEASE.
STATE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION MODERATE IF YOU PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY. IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL WILL
BEGIN. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
TESTIFY AND OR A- PLEASE FIRST
TO ZERO THIS. WE'LL GO TO ONE OF
ONE FIFTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON REBEKAH BOTH WITH
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT. IN LINE ONE
SIXTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. BUT
I'M SURE MEMBERS BRENDAN UP ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THANK YOU TO
ALL OUR WITNESSES GO AHEAD DO
YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE. FOR A
COLLEGE AYE SO MAKE YOUR
APPOINTMENT MEDICARE. JUST ONE
MOMENT. I'M GONNA ONE ONE SIXTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. MARGINALIA
ON BEHALF OF FAMILIES AGAINST
MANDATORY MINIMUMS IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THE MEASURE OF NO ONE
ELSE'S KIDS TIME THANK YOU AND
THANK YOU TO ALL OUR WITNESSES
WILL NOW BRING THE DISCUSSION
BACK TO MEMBERS MEMBERS IS THERE
ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS. SEEING NONE AT CENTER
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE AND
THANK YOU AND I WANTED TO
INDICATE TO THE OPPOSITION I
WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS TO SEE IF THEIR-
OF WE'VE NOT HAD ANY SUGGESTION
FROM THE SHERIFFS WERE- AND
WE'VE NOT HEARD OTHER OPPOSITION
THERE'S OTHER OPPOSITION LISTED.
ON SOME AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS CERTAINLY
THE INTENT OF THIS IS NOT TO
GLORIFY ANY INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS BUT RATHER TO ALLOW
FOR THE WHAT- WHAT GOOD
INDEPENDENT JOURNALISM CAN DO
BEST WHICH IS- PROVIDE US
INFORMATION ABOUT CONDITIONS AND
WEATHER. IN IF THOSE CONDITIONS
WARRANT OUR- ACTION THEN WE HAVE
THE ABILITY TO DO SO- GIVEN THE
SIZE OF CALIFORNIA'S IN CARCERAL
FACILITIES THE NUMBER OF PRISONS
WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF COUNTY
JAILS IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
HELD. THIS TYPE OF SUNSHINE IS
BENEFICIAL AND I WOULD- CLOSE BY
QUOTING THE REPUBLICAN SENATOR
IN MICHIGAN WHO AUTHORED
MICHIGAN'S MEDIA ACCESS LAW WHO
SAID. LIMITING MEDIA ACCESS ONLY
SERVES TO CREATE RUMOR AND
SUSPICION TO MAINTAIN THE FULL
TRUST OF THE PEOPLE WE MUST
PROTECT THE ABILITY OF THE MEDIA
TO INVESTIGATE ALL SIDES AND
THEN REPORTED FAIRLY AND
ACCURATELY WITH THAT I ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU AND WE
HAVE A MOTION. I'M WILL BE DOING
A COURTESY MOTION- CAPSULAR
SKATER THANK YOU CAN RECALL ROLE
. SB TWO FIFTY FOR THE MOST IS
THE PAST TWO APPROPRIATIONS
FEDERAL HOP HI HAVE I TO ABOUT
NO SERVICE NO FAT FOR. SKINNER
FIVE WIENER. THANK YOU THAT VOTE
IS ON CALL- SENATOR SKINNER
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ON TO SB
THREE SEVEN SEVEN YES THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS SO SB THREE SEVENTY
SEVEN- CORRECT SOME LOOPHOLES IN
OUR FIRE ARM LOSS. AND
SPECIFICALLY IT CLOSES A
LOOPHOLE THAT ALLOWS- OUR- OF.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO BUY
WHAT IS WE CONSIDER DANGEROUS
HAND GUNS OR HANDGUNS THAT ARE
OFF ROSTER. IT SECONDLY IT
REQUIRES OUR DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TO DEVELOP REGULATIONS
ENSURE THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES ONLY PURCHASE FIRE.
FROM BUSINESSES WHO COMPLY WITH
OUR STATE AND FEDERAL FIREARMS
LAWS NOW THE REASON THAT I'VE
BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IS BECAUSE
THE FEDERAL ATF ISSUED A
BULLETIN TO CALIFORNIA LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES RECENTLY.
WARNING ABOUT A GROWING TREND OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
ENGAGING IN UNLICENSED FIREARM
SALES SO IN OTHER WORDS SINCE
OUR LAWS ALLOW THEM TO PURCHASE
THESE GUNS THAT OTHERWISE YOU
AND I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
PURCHASE. INTERN MANY OF THEM
NOT I WISH MAYBE I DON'T SAY
MANY BUT THERE'S A GROWING TREND
OF THEM THEN SELLING THOSE WHICH
PUTS THOSE ON A DANGEROUS OR
UNLAWFUL FIREARMS BACK IN
CIRCULATION ON OUR STREETS- THIS
BILL WOULD NOT IMPACT THE
PORTION OF CALIFORNIA LAW THAT
ENABLES LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
TO PURCHASE OFF ROSTER FIREARMS
FOR OFFICIAL USE BY OFFICERS AT
WORK. THERE'S A RECENT REPORT BY
THE- BRADY UNITED THOSE FORMALLY
THAT BREEDING UNITED FOR GUNS
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE IT SHOWS
THAT AT LEAST NINETY CALIFORNIA
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE
SPENT OVER TWENTY MILLION.
BUYING FIREARMS AND OTHER
WEAPONS FROM DEALERS WITH A
HISTORY OF VIOLATE VIOLATING
FEDERAL FIREARM LAWS- AND NOW I
WOULD LIKE TO. INTRODUCE MY MAIN
WITNESS IN SUPPORT WHO IS HE NOT
. YEAH I F. FOR MARCH FOR OUR
LIVES THANK YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
EXACT. THANK YOU CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THANK YOU
SENATOR SKINNER FOR BRINGING
THIS TO THE FOREFRONT- I AM XENA
AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AT MARCH
FOR OUR LIVES ONE OF THE
LARGEST- YOU FLOOD UNANSWERED
ENGINE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE
COUNTRY. SB THREE SEVEN SEVEN
ADDRESSES THREE ESSENTIAL PIECES
WHEN IT COMES TO STRENGTHENING
CALIFORNIA'S LANDMARK FIRE
PROTECTIONS THE FIRST PIECE THAT
SB THREE SEVEN SEVEN ADDRESSES
IS THE CURRENT LEGAL LOOPHOLE
WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN
PURCHASE ILLEGAL FIREARMS FOR
THEIR PERSONAL USE OR RESALE-
WE'VE SEEN AS LEGAL. LOOPHOLE
USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE
PAST INCLUDING SOME HIGH PROFILE
SCANDALS SUCH AS THE ONE I'M A
FORMER SAN DIEGO SHERIFF CAPTAIN
MARGOT GRENELLE THIS LOOPHOLE
ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BECOME
A LEGAL FIREARM DEALERS
INSTRUCTOR JUICERS- AND WE KNOW
THAT LEGAL FIREARM TRAFFICKING
INSTRUCTOR JUICING CONTRIBUTES
TO GUN VIOLENCE INCLUDING AN
INCREASE IN GUN HOMICIDES. LAW
ENFORCEMENT CANNOT BY ANY OTHER
LEGAL PRODUCTS IN THE STATE
THERE SHOULD BE NO EXCEPTION
REGARDING FIREARMS IT IS ALSO
IMPORTANT TO KNOW- JUST LIKE
SENATOR SKINNER SAID AT THIS
BILL WOULD NOT IMPACT THE
PORTION OF THE CALIFORNIA LAW
THAT ENABLES LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES TO PURCHASE OFF ROSTER
FIREARMS. FOR OFFICIAL USE BY
OFFICERS AT WORK- THE SECOND
PIECE OF THIS WILL ADDRESSES
CLOSING THE LOOPHOLE. WHICH DOES
NOT REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS TO WAIT TEN DAYS LIKE
ALL OTHER CALIFORNIANS TO
PURCHASE LEGAL HANDGUNS WAITING
PERIODS ARE UNDER UTILIZED IN AN
EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGY. FOR
REDUCING DEATH AND INJURY
SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT ALSO COMES
TO SUICIDE. THE FINAL PIECE- SB
THREE SEVEN SEVEN ADDRESSES THE
ABILITY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES TO PURCHASE GUNS FROM
DEALERS THAT HAVE A HISTORY OF
VIOLATING FIRE ON LAWS.
ADJUSTING CALIFORNIA FIREARM
DEALERS WHO VIOLATED THE LAW
HAVE RECEIVED MILLIONS IN
TAXPAYER DOLLARS. FOR THE
PURCHASE OF FIREARMS AND YOU'RE
RESPONSIBLE GUN DEALER PRACTICES
SUCH AS THE ONES STATE THESE
DEALERS ENGAGE AND- CONTRIBUTE
TO AMERICA'S GUN VIOLENCE
EPIDEMIC- RESEARCH FROM BRADY
HAS INDICATED THAT CALIFORNIA
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DO NOT
HAVE ADEQUATE VETTING PROCESS IS
IN PLACE. FOR CHOOSING FIREARM
VENDORS TO CONTRACTOR PURCHASED
GOOD FROM AND SB THREE SEVEN
SEVEN WOULD ADDRESS THAT IT IS
FOR THESE REASONS ON MARCH FOR
OUR LIVES IS ENCOURAGING THE
COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT. SB THREE
SEVEN SEVEN THANK YOU DO WE
HAVE. OTHER LEAD- MY OTHER LEAD
WITH. WAS ABLE TO SERVICE TO
KNOW WORRIES. YOU WILL MOVE ON
TO OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES-
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND- THAT YOU
SUPPORT THE BILL. GARCIA YOU TO
LIVE IN STRONG SUPPORT. R.
RIGHT- ANY LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES.
WITH DR. YOUR MEMBERS CORY CELLS
ALONG WE OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION.
RESPECTIVELY HERE IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL. THE REASON THE TEN
DAY WAIT DOES NOT APPLY TO
INDIVIDUAL PEACE OFFICERS IS
THAT EACH OF THEM UNDERGOES
RIGOROUS INITIAL AND ONGOING
BACKGROUND CHECKS AS A CONDITION
OF EMPLOYMENT. THIS BILL WILL
CREATE UNNECESSARY
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS FOR PEACE
OFFICERS REQUIRE FIREARMS
INCLUDING FOR USE IN CONNECTION
WITH THEIR EMPLOYMENT DESPITE
THE BILL'S LANGUAGE. FURTHER THE
UNSAFE HANDGUN LAW HAS RESULT IN
AN EXCEEDINGLY FEW NEW FIREARMS
BEING APPROVED FOR CALIFORNIA
SALE IN RECENT YEARS. DESPITE
THE FACT THAT THE ONLY REASON
THEY'RE DEEMED UNSAFE IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THEY LACK
CERTAIN FEATURES THE LEGISLATURE
SEEN FIT TO REQUIRE. IS NOT THE
CASE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS WANT TO BUY OFF ROSTER
HAND GUNS BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALL
CHEAP GUNS THAT MISFIRE WHEN YOU
DROP THEM THAT'S THE NOTION OF
THIS UNSAFE HANDGUN LIST AND I'M
NOT CALLING IT INTO QUESTION
BUT- THOSE GUNS ARE ON THAT LIST
AND THEN ALSO FIREARMS THAT
SIMPLY WACKY CHAMBERLAIN
INDICATOR. OR OTHER FEATURES
THAT AGAIN HAVE BEEN DECIDED ARE
MAKE A GUN SAFE OR UNSAFE- MAYOR
MAY NOT EXIST- CALIFORNIA PEACE
OFFICERS SHOULD BE ABLE LAWFULLY
AND EFFICIENTLY ACQUIRE THE
TOOLS THEY NEED WITHOUT
UNNECESSARY INTERFERENCE IF
THERE'S A PERSON RESELLING. A
FIREARM ILLEGALLY THEN THAT'S
ILLEGAL THAT'S COVERED AND FOR
CONSISTENCY SAKE THE BILL'S ON
US THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER
LEAD OPPOSITION THING NINE DO WE
HAVE OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM IF
SO STATE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND THAT YOU OPPOSE. AS A MATTER
USUALLY REPRESENT CAL
CORRECTIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER OPPOSITION SEEING
NONE THANK YOU WILL MOVE ON TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE ARVEST PLEASE YOU
STATE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
POSITION MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY.
AND WE WILL BEGIN. EKUJE
TESTIFY. IN THIS BOX BILL PLEASE
PRESS ONE TO ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL START WITH ONE ONE SIXTY
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. MANCHURIAN
FROM THAT CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND
PISTOL ASSOCIATION AND ANOTHER
TO CALIFORNIANS STRONG
OPPOSITION. ONE ONE SEVENTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH I'M
CALLING FROM MONTEREY CALIFORNIA
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
LEGISLATION. FOUR ONE ONE
SEVENTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MARK RONSON CALIFORNIA WRONGFUL
DISSOLUTION RESTORING THE
CLOSEST. ONE SEVENTY TWO PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS SAMIR CALL
YOUR LOT ON THE MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION GUN OWNERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND GUN OWNERS OF
AMERICA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED
SB THREE SEVENTY SEVEN. ONE ONE
SIXTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
GUN OWNERS IN CALIFORNIA IN THE
AND OUR A STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK
YOU. BY ONE SIXTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. ONE SIXTY FIVE JOINT IS
OPEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
IS PATRICK GARY AND I RECOMMEND
YOU ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED. ONE
ONE SEVENTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. SENATE FINANCIALS MEMBERS
CALIFORNIA READ RIFLE
ASSOCIATION AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THREE SEVENTY. PHYLUM TO
FORTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. IT
APPEARS DEMOCRAT ON THE CHAIR OF
THE SELL SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF
THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND AN ARMY NUMBER
STRONG OPPOSITION. ONE ONE SIXTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. MIKE
BREAK ON ELECTION SMALL BUSINESS
OWNER IN IRVINE- IN THE FIREARMS
INDUSTRY NUMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE PERSONAL
FLOTATION AND STUFF I'M IN
OPPOSITION TO STILL THE
NECESSARY. AND THEN SHARED HAVE
NO ONE ELSE SECURE AT THIS TIME
THANK YOU THANK YOU TO OUR
WITNESSES WILL NOT BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS
MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS- SENATOR
WIENER MOVES THE BILL- CENTER
SKYNYRD WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE
CLOSING STATEMENTS. I JUST WANT
TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE
EIGHT HUNDRED HAND GUNS
AVAILABLE IN CALIFORNIA IS ARE
NOT CONSIDERED. DANGEROUS OR ON
THE ROSTER THUS- THUS THE IDEA
THAT WE ARE UNNECESSARILY
RESTRICTING HANDGUN PURCHASE I
THINK IS A BIT- A BIT UNFAIR.
AND THIS DOES ALLOW FOR. OUR
MEANS TO PURCHASE THE OFFER US
DESIGNS FOR LAWFUL USE BY THE
DEPARTMENT THIS IS JUST
RESTRICTING THE PERSONAL
PURCHASE OF THE GUNS THAT ARE.
CONSIDERED UNSAFE ON THE ROSTER
AND WITH THAT I ASKED YOUR I.
BOATS THANK YOU- WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR WIENER. CAN WE
CALL. VOTE SB THREE SEVENTY
SEVEN THE MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR BOB HI
BOB HI TOWBOAT. OCTOBER NO
BRADFORD SKINNER FIVE IN OUR AYE
WIENER. WIENER AYE. GAME YOU THE
MOTION STILL I MEAN AT THE STILL
ON CALL- OUR NEXT PRESENTERS
AGAIN A LITTLE SENATOR BRADFORD
THE DALLAS- SENATOR WHICH OVER
WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT SB
SIXTY THREE. THANK YOU THE FLOOR
IS YOURS.
THE SAME. WITH. GOOD AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. IN. AS OF
THE MOMENT.
I APOLOGIZE OUT OF JAIL NO
WORRIES. SO MADAM CHAIRS AND
MEMBERS CALIFORNIA IS
EXPERIENCING THE STATE WHITE
MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS NEARLY ONE
IN SIX CALIFORNIA DAHLE HAS A
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND ONE IN
TWENTY SUFFERS FROM SERIOUS
MENTAL ILLNESS THAT MAKES IT
DIFFICULT TO CARRY OUT MAJOR
LIFE ACTIVITIES THESE NUMBERS
ARE EVEN MORE SEVERE WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE STATE'S HOMELESS
POPULATION WITH 78% STRUGGLING
WITH MENTAL ILLNESS SUBSTANCE
USE DISORDER AND ORDER IS A GOAL
DISABILITY. CURRENTLY WE HAVE
GROWING NUMBERS OF INCARCERATED
PERSONS WAITING FOR PSYCHIATRIC
HOSPITAL BEDS SOMETIMES FOR
MONTHS AT A TIME. IN THE PAST
FIVE YEARS THE NUMBER OF
INCARCERATED PERSONS DEEMED
INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL. IN
ORDER TO STATE HOSPITALS
INCREASED BY 60% A FEW DECADES
AGO FEWER THAN HALF OF STATE
HOSPITAL PATIENTS CAME FROM THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TODAY
MORE THAN 90% DO. WHEN PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS LANDED EMERGENCY ROOMS
AND JAILS IT IS FREQUENTLY
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TREATMENT
IN THE COMMUNITY EVEN WHEN THEY
ASK FOR IT. FORTY FOUR OF OUR
FIFTY COUNTIES HAVE MENTAL
HEALTH COURTS FOR ADULT
OFFENDERS IN THIRTEEN COUNTIES
HAVE HOMELESS COURTS. THESE
COLLABORATIVE COURTS ALLOW
INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS
AND THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS TO
GET THE RESOURCES THEY NEED IN
ORDER TO TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND
. NUMEROUS REVIEW AND
EVALUATIONS HAVE FOUND THAT MAKE
THAT MENTAL HEALTH COURTS HELP
EASE PRISON IN JAIL OVERCROWDING
WHILE IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF
LIFE AMONG THOSE DIAGNOSED WITH
MENTAL ILLNESS. IN FACT IN TWO
THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN. A STUDY
OF THE SACRAMENTO COUNTY MENTAL
HEALTH COURT FOUND THAT ROUGHLY
70% OF PARTICIPANTS WHO
COMPLETED THEIR PROGRAM HAD A
LOWER RATE OF REARREST THAN
THOSE GRADUATES THAN THOSE THAN
NON GRADUATES. IN ADDITION THEY
HAD A 75% LOWER CHANCE OF BEING
HOSPITALIZED AND A DECREASE IN
RE OFFENSE RATES ACROSS GENDERS
RACIAL BACKGROUNDS AND AGES.
HOWEVER DESPITE THESE COURTS
BEING PROVEN AS A SUCCESSFUL
TOOL FOR HELPING OUR MENTALLY
ILL POPULATION. THEY'RE OFTEN
UNDER FUNDED AND HAVE
INSUFFICIENT PROGRAMMING OPTIONS
FOR PARTICIPATING DEFENDANTS.
THIS IS WHY I DECIDED TO
CONTINUE WORKING ON MY BILL FROM
LAST YEAR AND REINTRODUCED SB
SIXTY THREE. IN ORDER TO GET
INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS
AND HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THE
CARE THEY NEED AND TO PROMOTE
REHABILITATION AND HOUSING
STABILITY SB CREEK SIXTY THREE
CREATE TO GRANT PROGRAMS. ONE
GRANT PROGRAM TO HELP COUNTIES
TO ESTABLISH AND EXPAND
COLLABORATIVE MENTAL HEALTH AND
HOMELESS COURTS AND TO A GRANT
PROGRAM FOR COUNTIES TO
INSTITUTE A RE ENTRY SERVICES
FOR JAIL INMATES AT RISK OF
BECOMING HOMELESS UPON RELEASE.
JOINING ME SUPPORT IS LIEUTENANT
JULIE IS A CHRISTIAN FROM THE
SAN MARINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME
TO- ADDRESSEE COMMITTEE IN
REGARDING THE SENATE BILL SIXTY
THREE AGAIN MY NAME IS JULIA
SOME CHRISTIAN I'M A SINNER WITH
THE CEREMONY SAN MARINO COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SENATE
BILL SIXTY THREE IS IMPORTANT TO
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA BECAUSE IT
IT ESTABLISHES A GRANT PROGRAM
THAT PROVIDES A COLLABORATIVE
EFFORT THAT COOK COMBATING
HOMELESSNESS AMONG INMATES
RELEASED FROM CUSTODY AND
ADDRESSES CRIME REDUCTION FOR
THOSE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL
ILLNESS. IN OUR DEPARTMENT'S
LARGEST CORRECTIONAL FACILITY.
IS KNOWN AS A WHAT'S WHAT WHAT'S
VALLEY DETECT JUSTIN IS LOCATED
RANCHO CUCAMONGA OUR POPULATION
DATE PUBLISHED PROXIMITY TWENTY
FIVE HUNDRED INMATES. BOB WE
ALSO HAVE THE LARGEST MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT. PROGRAM IN THE
COUNTY AND THAT FACILITY. NEARLY
FIFTEEN PER. OF THAT POPULATE
SUFFER. FROM MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES WE ALSO TRACK OUR TOP ONE
HUNDRED FREQUENTLY A RESIDENT
INDIVIDUALS THE TOP THREE
CHARGES FOR RE OFFENDERS INCLUDE
BEING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE PUBLIC
INTOXICATION AND TRESPASSING.
FORTY SEVEN OF THOSE ONE HUNDRED
INDIVIDUALS DO NOT HAVE AN
ADDRESS AND ARE CONSIDERED
HOMELESS. MENTAL HEALTH COURTS
ARE TYPE OF COLLABORATIVE COURT
THAT SERVES AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO
THE TRADITIONAL TO FUSE ME TOOK
THE TRADITIONAL COURT SYSTEM AND
PROVIDES. A SPECIFIC SERVICES
AND TREATMENT TWO DEFENDANTS
SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS.
THE HOMELESS COURT PROGRAM
PROCESS SHOULD RECOGNIZE HOMES
PARTICIPANTS VOLUNTARY EFFORTS
TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVES AND MOVE
FROM THE STREETS TOWARD SELF
SUFFICIENCY. INCLUDING
PARTICIPATION IN COMMUNITY BASED
TREATMENT OR SERVICES. THAT YOU
GUYS ARE POVERTY HEARD TODAY
MORE THAN 90% OF THE STATE
HOSPITAL PATIENTS COME FROM THE
COMMODE JUSTICE SYSTEM. WHEN
PEOPLE AND PSYCHIATRIC CRISIS
LAND IN EMERGENCY ROOMS AND
JAILS MOST OF THE TIME IT'S
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TREATMENT
IN THE COMMUNITY. PROVIDED
OUTREACH AND ASSISTANCE TO
HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WITH
OUTSTANDING COURT CASES IS A
PRIMARY FOCUS BECAUSE THESE
TYPES OF CASES TECHNIQUE TO
ESCALATE WHEN HOME DEFENDANTS
FAILED TO APPEAR IN COURT. THE
COUNTIES HAVE COLLABORATIVE
COURTS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF
SPECIALIZED POPULATIONS OF
CRIMINAL OFFENDERS HOWEVER THESE
COURTS ARE OFTEN UNDERFUNDED AND
HAVE INSUFFICIENT PROGRAMMING
OPTIONS. THESE PROGRAMS IN
COURTS WILL ALSO WORK TO EASE
PRISON AND JAIL CROWDING BUT
GETTING PEOPLE INTO TREATMENT
INSTEAD OF PLACING THESE
INDIVIDUALS IN JAIL THAT'S
REDUCING THE CHANCES OF
RECIDIVISM DUE TO UNTREATED
MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL ILLNESS
. WITH THIS COMMITTEE SUPPORT SB
SIXTY THREE COUNTIES TO WHAT
CALIFORNIA CAN WORK TO GET THE
HOMELESS AND MENTALLY ILL
INDIVIDUALS IN THE TREATMENT
INSTEAD OF BEING PLACED IN JAIL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
LEAD SUPPORT WITNESSES SEEING
NONE DO WE HAVE WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
SEEING NONE IT WILL MOVE TO LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. SEEING
NONE WILL HAVE MOVED OPPOSITION
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM. SEEING
NONE THANK YOU WILL NOW MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE PLEASE
JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION-
MODERATOR COULD PLEASE- PROMS
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
SINGLE WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU. IT
WAS SPEAK ON THIS BILL PLEASE
PRESS ONE TO ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE SEVENTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE SEVEN
EIGHT EUROPEN. OKAY ALRIGHTY
THEN I GUESS WE WILL- AND THAT
THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL THE
WITNESSES WILL BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MEMBERS- I.
IF THE SENATOR WAS CHAU VOGUE I
DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
BILL FORWARD- YOU HAVE
CONSISTENTLY TALKED ABOUT TRYING
TO IMPROVE MENTAL HEALTH AND
PROVIDE MORE SERVICES I DO
APPRECIATE THAT YOUR BILL.
REFLECTS THAT. GIVE US A MINUTE
PLEASE. YES.
TRANSACTION. SACRAMENTO COUNTY.
HAPPY TO SHARE A STORY OF A
SUCCESS. ONE OF THESE ARE GOING
TO HELP COURTS HERE IN
SACRAMENTO IF WE HAVE TIME.
RIGHT. FOR
ASSEMBLY. THE NATIONAL.
RIGHT RIGHT.
LAST HERE'S. NOT. MARKET FORCES
.
WHAT THE WORRIES I GET IT. WELL
I WOULD SET TO SET UP.
SHE SAID RIGHT. YEAH A SERIOUS.
THERE I CAN WE A- WE JUST- WE
NEED ANOTHER ON SOME OF THANK
YOU WE HAVE A MOTION- SENATOR
VOTE WHICH LIKE TO A CLOSING
COMMENT. EXECUTIVES POLICY PRIOR
. TO SO AND YOU KNOW I. PEOPLE
OFTEN ASK YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT DID
YOU DO TO SIT ON PUBLIC SAFETY-
YOU KNOW AND I REMEMBER SENATOR-
FROM SAN FRANCISCO ONCE
MENTIONED THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW
PUBLIC SAFETY NOBODY WANTS TO BE
ON IT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT A
COMMITTEE WHERE YOU CAN MAKE THE
BIGGEST IMPACT ON ON PEOPLE'S
LIFE. I HAVE TO SAY. THIS IS ONE
OF THE HARDEST COMMITTEES I'VE
EVER BEEN ON BUT WHEN IT THAT
I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM AND IT
IS BECAUSE OF THIS COMMITTEE
THAT I LEARNED OF THE NEEDS THAT
WE HAVE IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND ONE OF THE
INSPIRATIONS FOR ME GOING IN
RESEARCHING AND TRYING TO ASK
QUESTIONS OF HOW DO WE IMPROVE
THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. RIGHT
NOW. IN THIS BILL THIS BILL IS A
PRODUCT OF THOSE. CONVERSATIONS
AND THOSE FINDINGS IN THOSE
STATES SPEAKING TO THE
STAKEHOLDERS ARE IN PLACE AND I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY- AS FOR YOUR
UNCLE. THANK YOU CAN WE- ESPYS
SB SIXTY THREE MOTIONS TO PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR ROB HI
BOB HI A SERVER HI TO BETTER AYE
BRADFORD. SKINNER WIENER WIENER
HI THANK YOU THAT VOTERS ON CALL
. WE'RE GONNA MOVE SENATOR
WIENER- WORRY SB NINETY SEVEN
SENATOR YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
ABOUT. THIRTY NINETY SEVEN FOR.
OKAY COLLEAGUES- SAID ABOUT
NINETY SEVEN OF THE WRITING
WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS ACT WILL
STREAMLINE AND STRENGTHEN THE
PROCESS IN WHICH THOSE WHO
WRONGLY CONVICTED CAN PROVE
THEIR INNOCENCE THROUGH HABEAS
CORPUS SB NINETY SEVEN AIMS TO
ELIMINATE CONFUSION AND
UNNECESSARY LITIGATION
SURROUNDING TECHNICAL TERMS
REQUIREMENTS. WITHIN
CALIFORNIA'S HABEAS CORPUS LAWS
TO ENSURE COURTS ARE GIVEN
DISCRETION TO SCRUTINIZE THE
INTEGRITY OF A CONVICTION AND
GRANT RELIEF THE BILL DISTILLING
GUARANTEES THAT WRONGFULLY
CONVICTED INDIVIDUALS ARE
PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
CONTINUOUS COUNCIL AND THEIR
CASES- THE BILL ALSO DIRECTS
COURTS TO GIVE GREAT WEIGHT TO A
PROSECUTOR'S CONCESSION THAT A
PERSON HAS BEEN WRONGFULLY
CONVICTED CURRENTLY COURTS- AT
LATIMES WARDER THAT HEARINGS.
HAPPEN EVEN WHEN THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY AGREES THAT THE PERSON
SHOULD BE EXONERATED HI THIS IS
A WASTE OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES-
THE BILL'S AN IMPORTANT STEP IN
SAVING TIME IN UNNECESSARY
LITIGATION IN TAXPAYER
RESOURCES. AND ENSURING A FAIR
AND JUST POST CONVICTION
PROCESS- WE KNOW THAT OUR
JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS BEST WHEN
THOSE WHO ARE GUILTY ARE
CONVICTED AND THOSE WHO ARE
INNOCENT OR NOT CONVICT ONE
INNOCENT PERSON IS CONVICTED AND
INCARCERATED IT UNDERMINES
EVERYONE'S. A PUBLIC SAFETY IN
ADDITION TO BEING A HORRIBLE
INJUSTICE. SB NINETY SEVEN
SPONSORED BY THE CALIFORNIA AND
SAID INNOCENCE COMMISSION- WHICH
CONSISTS OF FOUR ORGANIZATIONS
IN CALIFORNIA THE WORK
COLLECTIVELY ON LEGISLATIVE
EFFORTS AIM TO FRAME THE
ANDERSON- I WANT TO THANK THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION- FOR ONCE AGAIN WE
ARE WE DO WE WORK FROM LAST YEAR
ON A- ANOTHER INNOCENCE PROJECTS
ARE RELATED BILL- BUT I WANT TO
THANK CDA FOR CAN FOR WORKING
WITH US- THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE WE
ARE CLOSER ON THE VERGE OF AN
AGREEMENT THAT I HOPE WILL
REMOVE- THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
. OPPOSITION BUT ALL OF THEM
CONSULT. WITH ME TO TOUCH. HI IS
ODD JOBS HARRIS TO SOAP-
DIRECTOR OF POLICY AT THE CAL.
IN PROJECT- AND KIMBERLY LONG
AND EXONERATE WHO WAS WRONGFULLY
CONVICTED OF MURDER AND SPENT
OVER SEVEN YEARS IN PRISON. FOR
A CRIME SHE DID NOT COMMIT I ASK
FOR YOUR I. BOATS. THANK YOU OUR
FIRST LEAD WITNESS PLEASE. TWO
MINUTES- GOOD EVENING A PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
MADAM- TERLIHAT. MY NAME IS
KIMBERLY LONG I SPEND SEVEN
THANKSGIVINGS AWAY FROM MY
PARENTS. SEVEN CHRISTMASES AWAY
FROM MY CHILDREN. SEVEN YEARS OF
CHERISHED MOMENTS FAMILY DINNERS
MY DAUGHTER'S GRADUATION. MY
SON'S FIRST HEARTBREAK. MY
PARENTS FORTIETH WEDDING
ANNIVERSARY PRECIOUS MOMENTS
BETWEEN A MOTHER AND A FAMILY
THAT I WILL NEVER GET BACK. FOR
SEVEN YEARS AND THREE MONTHS I
SAT IN A PRISON CELL FOR A CRIME
SOMEONE ELSE COMMITTED WHILE MY
FAMILY WONDERED WHETHER THEY
WOULD EVER SEE ME HOME AGAIN.
THIS IS AFTER SIX YEARS OF IN
DURING TWO TRIALS LOSING JOBS
BECAUSE OF MY WRONGFUL ARREST IT
BEING FORCED TO HAVE SUPERVISED
VISITATION WITH MY CHILDREN. I
JUNE TENTH TWO THOUSAND AND
SIXTEEN THE CALIFORNIA SINCE
PROJECT BROUGHT ME HOME. THAT
DAY I WALKED OUT OF THE
COURTROOM AND INTO THE ARMS MY
FAMILY. MY THIRTEEN YEAR
NIGHTMARE SHOULD HAVE ENDED THAT
DAY. ON THE DAY I WAS EXONERATED
THE PROSECUTOR ANNOUNCED THAT
THEY WOULD BE APPEALING THE
DECISION. THAT MEANT I COULD
COME HOME THAT DAY BUT I COULD
RETURN TO PRISON AT ANY MOMENT
IF I LOST MY PILLS. FOR FOUR
YEARS WHILE AWAITING DECISIONS
FROM THE COURT OF APPEAL. AND
THEN THE SUPREME COURT OF
CALIFORNIA I TRY TO REBUILD MY
LIFE TO RECONNECT WITH MY
CHILDREN WHO ARE FIVE AND TEN
YEARS OLD WHEN ALL THIS BEGAN
ALL THE WHILE KNOWING I TO
RETURN TO PRISON. MY DAUGHTER
GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL AND
COLLEGE. I BARELY MADE IT HOME
TO SEE OR GET MARRIED. I CAME
HOME JUST DAYS AFTER MY SON'S
GRADUATION FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY DON'T EVEN CHEATED OUT OF A
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER MOM. BUT
EMBARRASSINGLY I COULD LET
MYSELF TRULY RE ACCLIMATE AND
RECONNECT FOR FEAR. THAT I WOULD
HURT THEM ALL OVER AGAIN BY
BEING TAKEN AWAY. THANKFULLY THE
CALIFORNIA THANKFULLY THE
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT FELT
STRONGLY ABOUT MY INNOCENCE. AND
A FROM THE REVERSAL MY
CONVICTION IN LATE TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY. ALL IN WITH THIS. I
SHARE MY STORY TODAY IN HOPES OF
EMPHASIZING THE NEED FOR SENATE
BILL NINETY SEVEN. IN BILLS LIKE
IT. APPS OF THE GOOD SENSE
MEASURES AND SENATE BILL NINETY
SEVEN WERE IN PLACE WHILE I WAS
FIGHTING TO GET OUT. I COULD
HAVE MADE IT HOME FOR THE HIGH
SCHOOL GRADUATION. FORTIETH
ANNIVERSARY OR THEIR FIRST HEART
BREAK. I WOULD YOU TO VOTE YES
ON SENATE BILL NINETY SEVEN SO
OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE COULD COME
HOME IN TIME FOR THE PRECIOUS
MOMENTS I MISSED. THANK YOU
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS TWO
MINUTES. I COULD AFTERNOON
JASMINE HERIS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SINCE PROJECTS PART
OF THE CALIFORNIA INNOCENCE
COALITION. I HAD SOME TESTIMONY
PREPARED BUT I THINK SENATOR
WHEN YOU'RE COVERED ALL OF THE
AIMS OF THE BILL AND I THINK
KIM. DID AN ELOQUENT JOB OF
SPEAKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE
SPELL. SO I WILL JUST BE AROUND
FOR ANY TECHNICAL LEGAL
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU I DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION AND THAT YOU
SUPPORTED. YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
WE'RE MOVING FASTER THANK YOU
MARCO GEORGE OF THE HEALTH OF
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. FOR THAT WOULD INITIATE
JUSTICE STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
. MELISSA O'CONNELL FROM THE
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA INNOCENCE
PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE L. A.
INNOCENCE PROJECT THE CALIFORNIA
INNOCENCE PROJECT ILLEGAL A
PROJECT FOR THE INNOCENT. AS
WELL AS SMART JUST AS IN THE
PROSECUTOR'S ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. A LITTLE. BIT OF
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
GOING BACK A CELL BAKER CENTER
IN SUPPORT. SACRAMENTO
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES THAT ARE
LEAD. SEEING NINE WE'RE GONNA
MOVE TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES
HERE IN THIS ROOM. SITTING ON
WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THOSE
WAITING FOR TELECONFERENCE- YOU
KNOW PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT
MODERATOR PLEASE. HAVE THE FIRST
PERSON- PROMPTED THANK YOU. AND
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME. I MEDICARE HAVE KNOWN IN
QUEUE AT THIS TIME GREAT THANK
YOU TO ALL OUR WITNESSES WILL
WILL NOW BRING THIS DISCUSSION
BACK TO MEMBERS MEMBERS DO WE
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS-
SEEING NON DO. SENATOR WIENER
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE THIS
PROFESSOR FROM EVER THANK YOU.
SENATOR THE COURTESY. THANK YOU.
HE RECALLED. SB NINETY SEVEN
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR ROB HI.
HI ITULAH. SHOWBOAT AYE
BRADFORD. SKINNER WIENER. WIENER
AYE THANK YOU THAT THAT VOTE
WILL BE ON CALL- THE SENATOR
WIENER AGAIN THE FLOOR IS YOURS
FOR SB FIVE ONE THREE. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR- COLLEAGUES SB FIVE
THIRTEEN IS THE REDUCING
RECIDIVISM THROUGH THERAPY ACT
IT'LL ENSURE THAT MENTAL HEALTH
THERAPY IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS.
REGARDLESS OF THEIR SECURITY
LEVELS AND THINGS OR MENTAL
HEALTH CLASSIFICATION SB FIVE
THIRTEEN WILL REDEFINE MENTAL
HEALTH THERAPY- AS FIFTY MINUTE
SESSIONS TWICE A MONTH WITH A
PSYCHIATRIST PSYCHOLOGIST SOCIAL
WORKER OR THERAPIST.
ADDITIONALLY FOR SB FIVE
THIRTEEN REQUIRES INCARCERATED
PEOPLE ARE PROVIDED A
CONFIDENTIAL MENTAL HEALTH
APPOINTMENT WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF
REQUESTING CARE. KERR LAW
STIPULATES THAT BURNING CARCERI
INDIVIDUAL TO RECEIVE MENTAL
HEALTH THERAPY THEY MUST BE
ASSIGNED TO ONE OF FOUR
CLASSIFICATIONS UNDERSTOOD IS
YOURS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE
DELIVERY SYSTEM. THOSE WHO ARE
NOT CLASSIFIED- DO NOT HAVE
ACCESS TO ANY MENTAL HEALTH CARE
AT ALL. REQUIRING INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS TO BE CLASSIFIED
PRIOR TO SEEKING A MENTAL HEALTH
THERAPIST POSES VARIOUS PROBLEMS
MANY INCARCERATED PEOPLE WHO
WOULD BENEFIT FROM THERAPY WILL
DENY HAVING MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES. IN ORDER TO AN BORD
AVOID A CLASSIFICATION GIVEN THE
STIGMA SURROUNDING MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES IN PRISON. AND THE
POTENTIAL REVOCATION OF ACCESS
TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS
FAMILY VISITATION IN ADDITION
CLASSIFICATION INFORMATION IS
OFTEN SHARED WITH THE BOARD OF
PAROLE WHO MIGHT TAKE SOMEONE'S
CLASSIFICATIONS STATUS AS A
SIGNAL TO THE PERSON. SHOULD NOT
BE RELEASED THIS BILL WILL
ELIMINATE THIS BARRIER TO
ACCESSING MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES. SB FIVE THIRTEEN ALSO
SERVES AS A POWERFUL PATHWAY FOR
REDUCING CALIFORNIA'S RECIDIVISM
RATE BY MAKING MENTAL. HEALTH
TREATMENT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR
PEOPLE AND SEND US THAT THEY CAN
WORK THEIR REASONABLE. RESEARCH
UP. AND SERVICES PROVIDED WITH
IMPRISONS THEM REDUCE RECIDIVISM
BY HELPING CHANGE OUR CARS RATED
PEOPLES- INDIVIDUALS BEHAVIOR.
SB FIVE THIRTEEN WILL CONTRIBUTE
TO- THE INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS
REHAB AND IN TURN HELP REDUCE
OUR RECIDIVISM RATE- EVERYONE
INCARCERATED IN OUR STATE PRISON
SYSTEM- SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO
THIS VITAL FORM OF HEALTH CARE.
AND REHABILITATION I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
WITH ME TODAY- TODAY TESTIFY OR
TO BILL SPONSORS- A SEVEN UNIONS
WITH THE CHIEF STRATEGIST AT THE
ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION. AND
KAREN BUKHARI THE INTERIM PUBLIC
POLICY DIRECTOR AT MENTAL
HEALTH. AMERICA CALIFORNIA THANK
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU
GOOD AFTERNOON SHARING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS KAREN TO CARRY ON BEHALF
OF MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE CALIFORNIA
YOUTH EMPOWERMENT NETWORK PROUD
CO SPONSORS OF THE BILL. THE
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS
NAMED A MENTAL HEALTH AS A BASIC
HUMAN RIGHT FOR ALL PEOPLE
MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS ARE
PREVALENT ACROSS OUR ENTIRE
POPULATION ONE IN FIVE ADULTS
WILL EXPERIENCE A MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITION IN A YEAR. A PERSON'S
MENTAL HEALTH IS SCIENTIFICALLY
DEMONSTRATED IMPACT THEIR
OVERALL HEALTH FOR EXAMPLE IN
UNTREATED MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITIONS LIKE DEPRESSION WHICH
FREQUENTLY GOES UNDIAGNOSED. HAS
BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE THE RISK
OF PHYSICAL HEALTH CONDITIONS
LIKE DIABETES HEART DISEASE AND
STROKE. DEPRESSION IS ALSO
LINKED WITH WEAKENED IMMUNE
SYSTEMS PHYSICAL PAIN AND
SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES. THE LONGER
A PERSON GOES WITHOUT MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES THE GREATER THE
LIKELIHOOD OF THESE CO OCCURRING
ILLNESSES. ANOTHER COMMON MENTAL
HEALTH CONDITION POSTTRAUMATIC
STRESS DISORDER WHICH ALSO OFTEN
GOES UNDIAGNOSED AND IS COMMON
BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF
PRISONS IS DEMONSTRATED
INCREASED SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
DEPRESSION AND ANGER ISSUES.
LIKE DEPRESSION PTSD HAS ALSO
BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE HEALTH
CARE COSTS. IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT
AMERICANS LIVING WITH A MENTAL
HEALTH CONDITION DIE ON AVERAGE
TWENTY FIVE YEARS SOONER THAN
THOSE WITH OUT MENTAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES AND THIS IS BECAUSE
OF THOSE CO OCCURRING-
DISORDERS. IN A CAR IN ADDITION
TO REDUCING THE RISK OF PHYSICAL
HEALTH CONDITIONS MENTAL HEALTH
CARE SHOWN TO IMPROVE NUMEROUS
ASPECTS OF GENERAL FUNCTIONING
INCLUDING COPING WITH STRESS
IMPROVING RELATIONSHIPS
CONTROLLING ANGER. PROVING
PROBLEM SOLVING AND IMPROVING
WELL BEING. COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL
THERAPY HAS BEEN SHOWN TO REDUCE
VIOLENCE AND OTHER CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR ACROSS POPULATIONS AND
ACROSS SETTINGS. ACCORDING TO
THE WASHINGTON STATE INSTITUTE
FOR PUBLIC POLICY EVERY DOLLAR
SPENT ON DELIVERING CVT TWO
ADULTS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM. RESULT IN A SAVINGS OF
SIX DOLLARS AND THIRTY ONE CENTS
AND HEALTH CARE AND CRIMINAL
JUSTICE COSTS. TIMELY ACCESS TO
MENTAL HEALTH CARE IS ESSENTIAL
FOR ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING THOSE
WHO ARE INCARCERATED ACCESS TO
CARE FOR PEOPLE IN PRISON WILL
IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH THEIR
MENTAL HEALTH THEIR DAILY
FUNCTIONING AND THEIR LIKELIHOOD
OF SUCCESS UPON RELEASE. FOR
THESE REASONS WE URGE YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY FOR SB FIVE
THIRTEEN THANK YOU THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS TWO MINUTES. MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS ESTEBAN
UNIONS AND I'M WITH THE ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION. ON THIS
BILL IS BOTH ROOTED IN PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE AND THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THOSE
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED
EXPERIENCING FLARES OF HARDSHIP
. WHEN I ENTERED THE PRISON
SYSTEM AT TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD I
WAS HIT WITH THE RE WITH REALITY
AND A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES. I
HAD TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF
MY ACTIONS INCLUDING THE HARM
THAT I CAUSED TO MY COMMUNITY.
AND THE UNDERLYING TRAUMAS THAT
CONTRIBUTED TO MY DESTRUCTIVE
PATH. THE CULTURALLY SHOCKED AND
EMOTIONALLY HUMBLED I BECAME
DEPRESSED. ULTIMATELY I WAS
CLASSIFIED AS TRIPLE CMS A
CLASSIFICATION UNDER CDCR WHICH
WAS THE ONLY WAY I WAS ABLE TO
GAIN ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH
RESOURCES SUCH AS THERAPY. WHEN
I BEGAN A PROCESS MY TRAUMAS AND
THERAPY IT BECAME ABUNDANTLY
CLEAR FROM MY CHILDHOOD TRAUMAS
INTRINSICALLY INFLUENCED MY
NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS. THESE
INITIAL THERAPY SESSIONS WITH
THE FIRST TIME THAT I BEGAN
PROCESSING BEING MOLESTED AT SIX
YEARS OLD. WORKING THROUGH THE
TRAUMA HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY I
WANT TO SUCH EXTREMES TO DEFEND
MYSELF AND THOSE I LOVE. I FELT
THAT BY DOING DOING SO IT WOULD
MAKE UP FOR MY INABILITY TO
PROTECT MYSELF AS A SIX YEAR OLD
BOY. IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY MY
ACTIONS IN ANY WAY. SHAPE OR
FORM BUT IT DID HELP INFORM MY
JOURNEY TOWARDS REHABILITATION.
I ALSO BEGAN SPEAKING TO THOSE
AROUND ME AND REALIZE SUCH A
HIGH PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE
INCARCERATED HI SIMILAR
CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES THAT THEY
HAD NORMALIZE THEM. THIS BILL
SEEKS TO PROVIDE NECESSARY
THERAPEUTIC CARE TO THOSE WHO DO
NOT HAVE. A MENTAL HEALTH
CLASSIFICATIONS BUT NEVER THE
LESS NEED SUPPORT NAVIGATING
HARDSHIPS AND TRAUMAS. LIKE MANY
OF US DO. MENTAL HEALTH CARE IS
INCREDIBLY STIGMATIZED IN
PRISONS. NOT ONLY BY THE
INCARCERATED POPULATION BUT ALSO
BY THE STAFF. THIS UNDOUBTEDLY
LEADS PEOPLE TO AVOIDING CARE TO
AVOID THE SIGNATURES OF. A. R.
C.'S INCARCERATED REAL BILL TATE
OF PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS HAVE
EXPRESSED THE NEED FOR SUPPORT.
WHILE ALSO EXPRESSING A FEAR OF
CLASSIFYING INTERCEDE CCAR'S
MENTAL HEALTH CLASSIFICATIONS
BECAUSE OF THE ASSOCIATED
STIGMAS AND DID NOT RATES THE
BOARD OF PAROLE GIVES TO THOSE
WHO ARE CLASSIFIED. UNDER THIS
BILL PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY
SERVING LIFE SENTENCES WOULD BE
ABLE TO SEEK OUT CARE WITHOUT
THE FEAR OF IT NEGATIVELY
AFFECTING THEIR CHANCES OF
FREEDOM. THERAPY SHOULD BE
AFFORDED TO THOSE INCARCERATED
BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN USE
PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE ON
NAVIGATING AND PROCESSING
TRAUMAS. EVIDENCE PROVES THAT
INCARCERATION EXACERBATES
UNDERLYING TRAUMAS AND STUDIES
HAVE SHOWN THAT PEOPLE
EXPERIENCE THE BODY OF TRAUMA
WHILE INCARCERATED. SOME OF US
DON'T CLASSIFY AS HAVING A
MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS. BUT
STILL WANT AND NEED HELP. AND IF
WE FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO
INCARCERATED PEOPLE WE ARE
CREATING A PATHWAY FOR THEM TO
DEVELOP HEALTHY COPING
MECHANISMS. CONSEQUENTLY THEY
WILL KNOW HOW TO DO SO WHEN THEY
EXPERIENCE HARDSHIPS UPON
REENTRY. THE KNOW HOW TO COOK IF
THEY KNOW HOW TO CARP
ACCORDINGLY AS OPPOSED TO
REVERTING OR REGRESSING BACK TO
OLD WAYS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT THANK YOU- FOR
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL PLEASE STATE
YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND-
THAT YOU SUPPORTED OUT LET'S
ALSO MOVE QUICKLY. MARCO GEORGIA
MY HALF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO
CELEBRATE YOUR CENTER IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. A LITTLE ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD REFILL ON BEHALF OF
INITIATE JUSTICE SMART JUSTICE
IN THE PROSECUTOR'S ALLIANCE
THANK YOU THANK YOU. MICHELMAN
DOES ON BEHALF OF THE ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION AS WELL AS
NATIONAL SOCIALISTS SESSION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS SAN FRANCISCO
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S ASSOCIATION.
AND DISABILITY RIGHTS
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
CANACCORD ARM OFFER
TRANSFORMATIVE IN PRISON A WORK
GROUP AND THE GROUP TRAINING
INSTITUTE THANK YOU. DRAMA YOU
ARE HERE ABOUT THE LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN AND ALL OF US ARE NOT
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU
AND DO WE HAVE ANY LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. SEEING
NONE WERE ASKING FOR THIS ROOM
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE PLEASE JUST STATE
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION SESSION
MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON
THIS BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
ZERO AT THIS TIME. I WILL GO TO
ONE ONE FORTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. DEFENSE UNITED CHAIR
MEMBERS OF A LOCAL DONE ON
BEHALF OF PUBLIC HEALTH
ADVOCATES AND SUPPORT. AND
MEDICARE WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
THE QUEUE AT THIS TIME THANK YOU
AND THANK YOU TO OUR WITNESSES
WE WILL NOT BRING THE DISCUSSION
BACK TO MEMBERS MEMBERS WOULD
YOU GUYS LIKE TO COMMENT.
RESIDENCIA THE AUTHOR IN THAT
I'M I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT
HERE HEALTH AS YOU KNOW WE'VE
HAD THAT IN COMMON IS A COMMON
THEME- A CONCERN ACROSS THE
STATE. JUST TWO QUESTIONS BUT
THAT'D BE GREAT TOO- TO. ADDRESS
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH- THE
FUNDING FOR THE HEALTH CARE- THE
MENTAL HEALTH- SERVICES TO BE
PROVIDED. ESPECIALLY WITH THE
CDC ARE SINCE WE JUST VOTED ON
YOU KNOW. MEANS BY WHICH THEY
LIMIT THE PROFITS WHICH I THINK
WE IT WAS A VERY. GOOD BILL BUT-
SO THE FUNDING FOR IT AND NUMBER
TWO- WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S
A HUGE HEALTH CARE. PROVIDER
SHORTAGE SO- WITHIN THIS BILL
WITH THERE'D BE ANY PENALTIES
FOR THE INABILITY TO HAVE THE
REQUIRED STAFF TO- BASICALLY
PROVIDE THE SERVICES IN AN
INTERCESSOR. I MEAN SOON IN
TERMS OF MENTAL HEALTH WORKFORCE
WE KNOW WE HAVE A BROAD. PROBLEM
INSIDE PRISON OUTSIDE PRISON
SCHOOLS EVERYWHERE WE NEED. TO
RAMP UP OUR TRAINING- VERMITTELT
WORKFORCE AND TO SHORE UP THE
REPORTS THEY HAVE SO THEY DON'T
BURN OUT I WE MADE A BIG
INVESTMENT- MENTAL HEALTH
WORKFORCE LAST YEAR WE HAVE TO
REALLY JUST KEEP THAT MOMENTUM.
ARE GOING SO I DON'T WANNA YOU
KNOW PRETEND LIKE THERE'S NO
ISSUE THERE THERE IS AN ISSUE-
THANK YOU FOR WE JUST NEED. MORE
PEOPLE AND I AND WHEN I DON'T
YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME
HERE SAID THIS IS GONNA JUST FIX
EVERYTHING OVERNIGHT- BUT IS
MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
IN TERMS OF FUNDING WE ALSO KNOW
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK WITH
THE ADMINISTRATION. OUR WORK
WITH CDCR WITH THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE- YOU
KNOW WE KNOW IT'S TOUGH BUDGET
YEAR- BUT THIS IS REALLY
IMPORTANT IMPORTANT AS WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING TO SORT OF RIGHT
SIZE OUR PRISON SYSTEM INTO. WE
ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO- YOU
KNOW. BECOMING OUT OR MAYBE
COMING OUT ONE DAY THAT THEY ARE
ABLE TO REINTEGRATE- AND IF WE
DON'T GIVE THEM THE SUPPORT THEY
NEED THAT MAKES IT HARDER WHICH
MEANS RECIDIVISM GOES UP AND
IT'S EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE SO WE
KNOW THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES.
BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO YOU KNOW
SERVE CALL THE QUESTION ON THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE AND HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION ABSOLUTELY I
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
KNOW WE HAD A RECORD THAT. OUR
OUR SYSTEMS ARE NOT GOING TO BE
PENALIZED OR SOMEWHERE SHE
PERFORMED BECAUSE IT WE DON'T
HAVE THE WORKFORCE AND- YOU KNOW
AS LONG AS WE SEEN THE INTENT OF
BEING. ABLE TO ALLOCATE THAT THE
FUNDING AND THE EFFORT OF.
BRINGING ON BOARD THE MENTAL
HEALTH ACT THAT THERE WILL BE.
NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. TO THE
FACT THAT WE- AS OF RIGHT NOW WE
NEED. PERHAPS DON'T THE CAPACITY
TO CARRY. OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL
INCUMBENT ON US TO MAKE SURE THE
CDC ARE TO WORK WITH THEM TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO
DO THIS IS NO DOUBT- ABOUT
INTERCOURSE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO
FOLLOW THE LAW- BUT- WE
UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME
CHALLENGES AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE
TO WORK. IN THE BUDGET AND WE
HAVE A BUDGET REQUEST AND-
OFFERED TO FUND THIS BILL- SO
WE'RE WORKING ON A PARALLEL.
TRACK IN THE BUDGET IS ONE THING
BUT I'M JUST WORRIED THAT. IT'S
THE WORK FORCE THAT I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE EVEN IF
WE ALLOCATE THE FUNDING. IT WE
JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE- MAKING IT WAS AS IT WERE
WE PROTECT THAT WE DON'T.
PENALIZE THE CARD. BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE THE
WORKFORCE THE ONLY CONCERN THAT
I HAVE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I
KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARDS
THE FUNNY PART OF IT BUT IT'S
THE WORK FORCE THAT I'M-
CONCERNED. AND I ALSO JUST WANT
TO. MENTION THAT YOU KNOW THERE
ARE OTHER WAYS CREATIVE WAYS OF
DELIVERING US- THROUGH
TELEHEALTH FOR EXAMPLE. BOOKS
RECORDS RATED HAVE HAVE ACCESS
TO DIFFERENT KINDS OF
TECHNOLOGY. SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN
NEED TO ALL OF THIS I HAVE ALL
THE STAFF. PHYSICALLY IN THE
PRESENT AND SOME OF IT COULD BE
DONE. REMOTELY WHICH CAN BE MORE
EFFICIENT I CAN HELP THEM SO.
THERE ARE CREATIVE WAYS TO DO IT
I EVEN THOUGH WE DO A MENTAL
HEALTH. WORK FOR SHORTAGE IT'S
NOT. THE SEVERITY IS NOT SO
EXTREME THAT. NO ONE CAN HIRE
ANYONE. IT BUT IT IS MORE
CHALLENGING THAN IT WAS A FEW
YEARS AGO I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS.
DEBATE IN OTHER CONTEXTS- AND I
. BY THE DATA THAT I'VE SEEN.
SHOWS THAT WE DO HAVE A
CHALLENGE. IF WE DON'T TURN
AROUND WITHIN LIKE FIVE TO TEN
YEARS TO GOING TO GET MUCH WORSE
BUT WE STILL HAVE TIME TO TURN
AROUND. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT
FOR THE RECORD I THINK WE ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT. THE INNOCENCE
AND I WILL BE HAPPY WITH THE AT.
THE BILL THANK YOU- SENATOR A.
D. JUST WHEN I APPRECIATE YOU-
FOCUSING ON MENTAL HEALTH AND
SPECIFICALLY- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
. YOU KNOW IMPROVING THE
SITUATION- THIS IS DEFINITELY A
STEP FORWARD ESPECIALLY WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT- HEALING AND
MOVING FORWARD. I DO HAVE A
CONCERN- MORE SPECIFICALLY ON
JUST IMPLEMENTATION- AND THIS
IS. JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE
ANYBODY WHO'S WILLING TO WORK ON
THIS- YOU KNOW WE VISITED A
PRISON- ROUGHLY ABOUT. A MONTH
AND A HALF AGO OR SO AND I DID
ASK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ANOTHER
TREATMENT SERVICES. AND ONE OF
THE CONCERNS FROM A LOT OF THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE INMATES
THERE WAS THAT IF IT IS KNOWN
THAT AN INMATE IS GOING TO. SEEK
MENTAL HEALTH OR ANY TYPE OF
THERAPY- THE INDIVIDUALS THAT
ARE THE OTHER INMATES TEND TO
RETALIATE- BECAUSE THEY ARE
SHARING INFORMATION AND JUST.
MAKING SURE THAT INFORMATION IS
VERY PRIVATE AND SPECIFICALLY
YOU KNOW- ST- CONFIDENTIALITY
THERE- BUT TO ADD MAYBE WE NEED
TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON
THAT SO JUST A THOUGHT- TO
SHARE- BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT- I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE THIS BILL UP. DO YOU
HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS I
APPRECIATE- THE DIALOGUE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL THANK YOU
THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY
SENATOR MITCHELL BOTH. RECALLED
READ ALL SB FIVE THIRTEEN
EMERGENCY. YOUR PREPARATIONS
SIMPLER WILL HOP HI ROB HI JOB
OKAY I TO ABOUT AYE BRADFORD.
SKINNER WIENER. WIENER THANK YOU
THIS THIS A BILL WILL BE CALL.
WE HAVE ONE BILL LAST. IN A
COUPLE AND- YEAH. THANK TECHS
CAN EARN. DO WE ANY ON CALL
SENATOR WEAH. YEAH I JUST WANT.
YOU FOR OVER. YEAH YEAH. FIFTY
FOUR TO FIFTY FOUR. THE CALL.
CENTER HERE YEAH. SB TWO FOR
FOUR VOTE IS TO ONE WINNER.
WIENER ATHLETES. REFERENCE TO
SAY THE STATE IT'S GOOD TO STAY
ON CALL. YEAH WHAT.
WE HAVE SENATOR WIENER
PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
BRADFORD SB FOUR FOUR ONE
SENATOR WIENER THE FLOOR IS
YOURS.
YOU TAKE IT.
FORTY ONE MINUTES AND RUBBER- IF
YOU FOR FORTY ONE FOR CHOIR
PROSECUTORS IN FELONY CASES TO
DISCLOSE SPECIFIED INFORMATION
TO THE DEFENDANT RATHER ATTORNEY
WITHIN SEVENTY TWO HOURS OF A
PRELIMINARY HEARING- THIS WILL
INCLUDE CRITICAL INFORMATION
SUCH AS STATEMENTS MADE BY THE
DEFENDANT WITNESSES AND PHYSICAL
EVIDENCE ALREADY COLLECTED BY
THE PROSECUTION LAW ENFORCEMENT
. BY PROMOTING THE FULL
DISCLOSURE OF THIS KEY
INFORMATION BY PROSECUTORS LAW
ENFORCEMENT SB FOUR FORTY ONE
INSURANCE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
PROCESSES MORE EFFICIENT AND
EFFECTIVE BY GIVING THEIR QUEUES
ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION EARLY
IN THE LEGAL PROCESS ELIMINATING
LONG AND COSTLY LEGAL MOTIONS
OVER THE DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE
AND REDUCING THE RISK OF
WRONGFUL ARRESTS AND CONVICTIONS
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY
LEAD WITNESSES THANK YOU YOU
ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES SORRY
STEVEN KILLED- EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS
FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE THE STATE
WATER SOURCE VERSION OF CRIMINAL
LAWYERS. THIS BILL WILL RESTORE
THE RIGHT TO DISCOVERY PRIOR TO
PRELIMINARY HEARING WHICH WAS
ELIMINATED BY THE TOUGH ON CRIME
PROPOSITION ONE FIFTEEN AND
NINETEEN NINETY. THAT BALLOT
MEASURE TOOK AWAY BASIC RIGHTS
FROM THE DEFENSE INCLUDING THE
RIGHT OF RECEIVING CRITICAL
INFORMATION EARLY IN THE LEGAL
PROCESS. SINCE THEN THE PROCESS
IS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT. TO GET
EARLY AND FAIR RESOLUTIONS
BECAUSE THE PARTIES HAVE. AN
EQUAL ACCESS TO INFORMATION. SB
FOUR FOR ONE WILL MAKE THE
PROSECUTION OF FELONY CHARGES
BOTH MORE FAIR AND MORE
EFFICIENT. BEFORE NINETEEN
NINETY PEOPLE BECAUSE SECTION
EIGHT FIFTY NINE REQUIRE THE
PROSECUTION TO MAKE ARRESTS AND
CRIME REPORTS AVAILABLE FOR THE
DEFENSE. UPON THE FIRST
APPEARANCE OF COUNCIL OR WITHIN
TWO DAYS THEREAFTER. THIS WAS IN
PLENTY OF TIME FOR PREPARE FOR
PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION WHERE
THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.
THE DISCOVERED PROVISIONS WERE
ELIMINATED BY PROP ONE FIFTEEN
WHICH ALSO LIMITED THE COURTS
POWER TO ORDER DISCOVERY. TODAY
ONLY EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE MUST
BE DISCLOSED BEFORE THE
PRELIMINARY. AS REQUIRED BY THE
CONSTITUTION UNDER BRADY VERSUS
MARYLAND. THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO
SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO
REQUIRING DISCOVERY TO THE
ACCUSED BEFORE THE PRELIMINARY
HEARING. FIRST WHEN THE
PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE HAVE
EQUAL ACCESS TO THE FACTS OF THE
CASE FROM THE BEGINNING IT
PROMOTES FAIR SETTLEMENT BEFORE
THE PRELIM. SAVING COURT TIME
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES.
SECONDLY IF THE CASE DOES NOT
SETTLE AT THAT STAGE AND GOES TO
PRINT THEM DEFENSE COUNSEL HAS
THE INFORMATION NEEDED. TO MEET
THE CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARDS OF
DUE PROCESS FAIR HEARING AS ALL
THIS REPRESENTATION INCLUDING
FULL CROSS EXAMINATION OF
WITNESSES BASED ON KNOWLEDGE OF
ALL THE FACTS. THIS MAY RESULT
IN UNFOUNDED CHARGES BEING
DISMISSED AT THE PRELIM OR MAY
MAKE THE CASE WEAKER THAN THE
PROSECUTION BELIEVED IT TO BE OR
STRONGER THAN THE DEFENSE
BELIEVES IT TO BE. I CAN SAY
FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH
MANY CLIENTS SAY I DIDN'T DO IT
I DIDN'T DO IT I'M NOT PLEADING
AND THEN WE WENT TO A
PRELIMINARY HEARING AND HEARING
THE EVIDENCE CHANGE THEIR
POSTURE ON THE KISS. IN PRACTICE
TODAY MOST PROSECUTORS PROVIDE
BASIC FORCES OFFENSE BEFORE
PRELIM. BUT SINCE IT IS A
REQUIRED SOME DO NOT. AND SOME
ACTUALLY PLAY GAMES WITH
HOLDING. A CERTAIN REPORTS OR
INFORMATION FROM THE DEFENSE TO
GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. THAT'S
JUST PLAIN WRONG. BUT TODAY
THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR THESE
GAMES S. BEFORE FOR ONE IS
SIMPLE AND FAIR BOTH SIDES
SHOULD HAVE ALL THE FACTS BEFORE
GOING TO A CRITICAL EVIDENTIARY
HEARING. THANK YOU. WITH HI GOOD
AFTERNOON THAT NASSAR HERNANDEZ
ON BEHALF OF THE EXONERATED
NATION WHICH IS A NATIONAL
NONPROFIT WORKING WITH THE
WRONGFULLY CONVICTED I'M A BOARD
MEMBER I'M SPEAKING IN THAT
CAPACITY IS ONE OF THE
WITNESSES. LET ME LET ME JUST
SAY VERY BRIEFLY. THE CORE
PRINCIPLE OF THIS BILL. IS THAT
AT THE FIRST. HEARING THAT THE
JUDGE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT
EVIDENCE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE D. A.'S TURN OVER
EVIDENCE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE
IN THEIR POSSESSION. THAT WILL
HELP THE DEFENSE AND THE JUDGE
DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT THE
CHARGERS ARE ACCURATE ARE THEY
BEING OVERLY CHARGE OR IS IT THE
WRONG PERSON. CURRENTLY THE
PROCESSES THAT INFORMATION WON'T
BEGIN UNTIL LATER ON. SOMEBODY'S
IN CUSTODY FOR A LONG TIME FOR
THE CHARGERS ARE HANGING OVER
THEIR HEADS FOR A LONG TIME A
LOT OF RESOURCES A LOT OF TIME
IS GOING AND SIMPLY BECAUSE THE
INFORMATION ISN'T HAS NOT BEEN
TURNED OVER. THE PRELIM IS THE
ONE OPPORTUNITY THE FIRST
OPPORTUNITY I SHOULD SAY FOR THE
JUDGE. AND THE DEFENSE TO SEE
THE INFORMATION. VIEW IT AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS RIGHT THE
BILL SIMPLY SAYS IT'S IN THE
POSITION THE DA ARE IN
POSSESSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
TURN IT OVER EARLY. AND LET'S
GET THESE CASES RESOLVED EARLY
OR AT LEAST GET IT RIGHT FROM
THE VERY BEGINNING MAKE SURE WE
DON'T GET THE WRONG PERSON THANK
YOU THANK YOU IF WE HAVE ANY
OTHER. PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING
IN SUPPORT PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THAT
YOU SUPPORT AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE
QUICKLY. GREGOR FELT INITIATE
JUSTICE STRONG SUPPORT. A LITTLE
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. MARCO
GEORGE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT. DRONNING MARGRETHE ARE
LEGAL SERVICES FOR PRISONERS
WITH CHILDREN ALL OF US ARE NON
SUPPORT. THANK YOU THANK YOU DO
WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION LEAD
WITNESSES. SEEING NONE DO WE
HAVE ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM. SEEING NONE THANK YOU
WILL MOVE ON TO WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE PLEASE JUST STATE
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION MODERATOR IF YOU'D
PLEASE PROMPT INDIVIDUAL WAITING
TO TESTIFY WILL BEGIN. AND IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. THE MANAGER WE KNOWN
HERE NOT TO THE SIDE. THANK YOU
AND THANK YOU TO OUR WITNESSES
WILL BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK
TO MEMBERS MEMBERS DO YOU GUYS
HAVE ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS
CONCERNS. SEEING NONE. SENATOR
OCHO VOGUE. SO IN PRESS FIVE NO
PROBLEM WITH THIS REAL I THINK.
IF I IF I WERE ARRESTED I WOULD
WANT ALL THIS EVIDENCE TO BE
READILY AVAILABLE TO CONCERN I
HAVE WITH. AND WITH THIS SPELL
IS THE EXPECTATION OF THE TIME
FRAME WITHIN WHICH ISN'T
EXPECTED- BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
THAT OUR SYSTEM SPECIFIC
RELIGIOUS REYES IS INCREDIBLY
INUNDATED OR CONDITIONAL SYSTEM
IT'S INCREDIBLE EVERYTHING IS IN
AN UNDATED WITH WORK. AND SO THE
REALITY- OF WHEN THIS
INFORMATION- AND I'M THINKING OF
MYSELF AS AS SOMEONE WHO CAN BE
A- YOU KNOW ON ON THE VICTIM'S
SIDE BUT ALSO- THE REALISTIC
SIDE OF. IMPLEMENTING THE SPELL
OF REQUIRING SO HOW DID YOU
FOLKS COME UP WITH THE THREE
DAYS- IN WITH THE PERSON THE
IDEAL TIME WOULD BE IN.
DEPENDING ON WHERE THE COURT IS
AND YOU KNOW WHAT DISTRICT
THEY'RE WORKING ON BECAUSE I
THINK THAT ALSO VARIES AS TO THE
CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL
THE NEED FOR THIS BILL. THANK
YOU THE COULD CRACK YEAH I GET
IT CORRECT THANK YOU NOT
HERNANDEZ AGAIN- SO TWO THINGS
WHEN THERE'S PRELIMINARY HEARING
IT CAN BE AS QUICKLY AS WITHIN.
TEN DAYS. OR IF THAT TIME IS WAY
TOO COULD TAKE A LOT LONGER
BEFORE THAT HEARING IS ACTUALLY
SCHEDULED SO WE SIMPLY TOOK THE
SEVENTY TWO HOURS BECAUSE WE
KNEW THAT IS IT KIND OF SHORT
TIMELINE FOR SOME CASES GET. GET
THE PRELIMINARY HEARING WITHIN
THOSE TEN DAYS WE FIGURE OKAY
LET'S DO IT SEVENTY TWO HOURS.
TO GIVE TIME TO BE PREPARED AND
AGAIN THE CRITICAL THING IS.
POLICE HAVE ALREADY ARRESTED THE
DA'S HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO
LOOKED AT EVIDENCE TO DECIDE
WHICH CHARGES TO FILE. AND SO
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS GIVE US THAT
INFORMATION THAT YOU RELIED
UPON. TO MAKE THAT DECISION THEY
ALREADY HAVE IT. NOW THERE MAY
BE SOME INFORMATION AND- HAD
DISCUSSIONS WITH A NUMBER OF
FOLKS. THAT MAYBE IT'S HARD TO
COMPLY WITH THAT IS SOMETHING
WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT
AND DISCUSS BUT IF IT'S
SOMETHING THAT IS RELIED UPON.
TO FILE THE CHARGES IS GOING TO
BE USED AT THE PRELIMINARY
HEARING SO IT'S GOING TO BE
PRESENTED AT THE HEARING. THEN
GIVE IT TO US BEFORE THEN THERE
SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE WITH
PROVIDING IT IF IT'S GONNA BE
USED AT THE COURT HEARING ITSELF
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE
STRUCTURED IT. EACH HOURS WE
JUST WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TEN.
TIME FRAME WE FIGURE THAT WOULD
THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND IF
IT'S BEYOND THAT. BEYOND THE TEN
DAYS WE GIVE A LITTLE MORE
FLEXIBILITY. THE LANGUAGES IN
THE BILL THAT ALLOWS FOR.
ACCOMMODATING THE IMPACT OF THE-
AS YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO. TO
PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION RIGHT.
ARE YOU. FOLKS HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. YES SO AND- SO
TWO THINGS IT SAYS IT'S ALREADY
IN THE POSSESSION OF THE DA. SO
IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND
FIND THE INFORMATION HAVE MUST
ALREADY BE IN THEIR POSSESSION
FOR ALREADY IN THE POSSESSION OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO IT ISN'T
SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO GO
INVESTIGATE AND- BRING TO. TO
THE DEFENSE SO IT'S ALREADY
THERE. AND THEN. THE MAJORITY OF
THE ITEMS THAT WE REQUIRE. IT'S
INFORMATION ABOUT A WITNESS WHO
IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED AT THE-
PRELIMINARY HEARING TO THE DA'S
ALREADY GONNA SAY HEY. MISTER
JONES IS GOING TO TESTIFY. WE
SAID OKAY FINE. GIVE US THE
STATEMENT SAID MR JONES HAS
MADE. OR BACKGROUND ABOUT MISTER
JONES WHATEVER IT IS SO THAT'S
HOW WE KIND OF. DID A NEXUS
THERE TRY TO MAKE IT AS NARROW
AS POSSIBLE- BUT I'VE HAD
DISCUSSIONS- WITH CONSULTING AND
OTHER FOLKS TO SEE IF. IF
THERE'S AN ISSUE IN GETTING THAT
INFORMATION THAT MAYBE WE CAN
WORK ON THAT AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING YEAH PERFECT THANK
YOU. SO WITH THAT OF B. I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE THAT THE BILL AND
I WILL. BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY- PENDING THE CONVERSATIONS
AND THE ACCOMMODATIONS- WITH THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THANK YOU- SENATOR BRADFORD AYE
IT WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY
CLOSING. I THANK YOU AS STATED
THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD
MEASURE OF. ASSURING
TRANSPARENCY SUNSHINE MAKING
SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT
INDIVIDUALS SO. THE EVIDENCE
THAT HAS BEEN ACQUIRED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO LEAD TO. AN
ARREST. A POSSIBLE CONVICTION
CHARGE ARE CHARGING CONVICTION
THAT'S ALL WE'RE SEEING SHARE
THAT WITH. THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS
ARE BEING CHARGED FOR THE CRIME
SO IT'S A STREET FOR MEASURE AND
I SIMPLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE THANK
YOU WE HAVE SENATOR OTOBO WHO
HAS. THE BILL. WILL CALL VOTE.
OR FORTY ONE OF THE MOST IS THE
PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR
ROB HI BOB HI. THE TO ABOUT AYE
TOWBOAT AYE BRADFORD AYE PRIVACY
AYE SKINNER WIENER. WIENER HIGH.
RATE THANK YOU. IT'S LEFT ON
CALL THANK YOU. WITH YES
CONTRAST COULD TO MAKE A. WE'RE
GONNA LIVE- SOME OF THOSE THAT
ARE ON CALL FOR CENTER BRADFORD
. C. THE SENATE. WE HAVE AN S.
B. THREE IS OUR CURRENT THREE TO
ZERO. RIGHT BRADFORD HI THIS IS
RACHEL THOSE SB SIXTY THREE.
NINE FIVE INNER HIGH. FIVE ZERO
THE BILLS OUT SB NINETY SEVEN
CURRENT VOTE IS THREE TO ONE
BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE SKINNER.
UPON HIS WINNER IT'S A WINNER
BILL FIVE SKINNER FIVE. FIVE
ZERO THE BILLS OUT. SB THREE
SEVENTY SEVEN CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE TO ONE BRADFORD. THAT'S
THE SKINNER BILL. FIVE SIX.
CONCERTS ORDER FORTY ONE THE
BILL IS OUT. SB TWO FIFTY FOUR
SKINNER MY CURRENT VOTE IS THREE
TO ONE BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE.
FOUR TO ONE THE BILL IS OUT AND
IT HAS THE FOUR FORTY ONE
BRADFORD CURRENT VOTE IS FOUR
TWO ZERO SKINNER. SKINNER ARE.
FIVE ZERO THE BILL IS OUT THANK
YOU SB FIVE THIRTEEN WIENER
CURRENT VOTED THREE TO ZERO
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE SKINNER
SKINNER HIGH. FIVE ZERO THE BILL
IS OUT. THANK YOU EVERYBODY THE
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.