THE SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE
NUMBER TWO ONE RESOURCES AROUND
A PROTECTION ENERGY WILL COME TO
ORDER IT BOARDING THE SENATE CAN
HE'S WORKING PUBLIC IN PERSON
AND VIA TELECONFERENCE SERVICE.
THAT WE ARE INDIVIDUALS WISHING
TO PRY PUBLIC COMMENTATORS THE
NUMBER IS 877-226-8163 ACCESS
CODE IS. SIX NINE FOUR EIGHT
NINE THREE ZERO. WE'RE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN
THE- STREET BUILDING. OF FOR
BEGIN WITH A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS
WE'RE GONNA PULL ISSUE TWENTY A
WATER COMPLIANCE ENFORCEMENT
AND- OFF OF THE VOTE ONLY
CALENDAR WILL BE HEARING THIS
ISSUE. AT A LATER HEARING WE DO
HAVE TWENTY SEVEN ISSUES ON
TODAY'S AGENDA WE'LL BE
DISCUSSING ALL THE ISSUES LISTED
DISCUSSION SESSION OF THE AGENDA
AFTER DISCUSSION WE WILL HAVE A
PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL OF THE
ITEMS. AND THEN AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT WILL HOLD ON CALENDAR ON
ITEMS ONE TWO NINETEEN AND
TWENTY ONE. BEFORE WE BEGIN
LET'S ESTABLISH A QUORUM
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. BAKER HERE BAKER HERE DALI.
DALI HERE MCGUIRE. WHY ABSENT.
HAS BEEN. GRAHAM HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED BUT WE ARE GOING TO
START WITH ISSUE A TWENTY TWO
IMPLEMENTATION. AND REX OF THE
ENERGY PACKAGE FIRST WE WERE
GOING TO HEAR FROM. AN OPEN
INVITE UP IN WHAT IS GOING TO
TESTIFY WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM
THE- WITHIN THE CDC AND THE CPUC
. AND FINANCE. WHO WILL PRESENT
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.
RIGHT WELCOME ALL UN WHOEVER
WANTS TO LEAD OFF INITIATION
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING A
MAN NOW BEEN FROM THE FINANCE-
SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO
PRESENT- STATUS UPDATES ON
ENERGY PACKAGE AND SOLUTIONS
PRESENTED IN THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET TO THE BUDGET RETAINS KEY
FUNDING FOR IMPORT INVESTMENTS
TO SUPPORT CLEAN RELIABLE AND
AFFORDABLE ENERGY MAINTAINS
ABOUT SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS IN
STATE FUNDING FOR THE CLEAN
ENERGY TRANSITION INCLUDING
PRESERVING ALL THREE POINT FOUR
BILLION OF FUNDING FOR THE
CRITICAL RELIABILITY PROGRAMS
INCLUDE THE TWENTY TWENTY TO
BUDGET. OVERALL THE TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FOUR GOVERNOR'S BUDGET
PROPOSES EIGHT HUNDRED AND
NINETY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF
GENERAL FUND REDUCTIONS AND
THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY
MILLION DOLLARS A GENERAL FUND
DELAYS INTO FUTURE YEARS IF
THERE'S SUFFICIENT FUNDING AND
OF GENERAL FUND IN JANUARY
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR ABOUT UP TO
FOUR HUNDRED AND TEN MILLION
DOLLARS OF THESE REDUCTIONS WILL
BE RESTORED. THE REDUCTIONS IN
THE TWENTY THREE TWENTY FOUR
STATE BUDGET LARGELY ARE WHERE
PROGRAMS ARE STILL IN THE
DEVELOPMENT PHASE WHERE THEY'RE
AVAILABLE FUNDS FOLLOWING
PROGRAM EXPENDITURES AND WHERE
THERE IS POTENTIAL FEDERAL
SUPPORT TO SUPPORT SUPPLEMENT
REDUCTIONS AND- SHIPS IN GENERAL
RESEARCH TO MAINTAIN CRITICAL
INVESTMENT STRATEGY OF THE
STATE'S ENERGY AND CLIMATE GOALS
AND PRIORITIZE EQUITY
AFFORDABILITY. RELIABILITY AND
SAFETY AS THE STATE CONTINUES TO
ENCOURAGE AND EFFORTS TO
DECARBONIZE THE GRID. IN GENERAL
THE REDUCTIONS ARE NECESSARY
BECAUSE THE FISCAL ENVIRONMENT
WE FIND OURSELVES. A HIGHLIGHT A
COUPLE OF KEY REDUCTIONS- BUT
THEN TURN IT OVER TO OUR
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS IN ORDER TO
GIVE IMPLEMENTATION TO- UPDATES.
OF THE EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETY
SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF
REDUCTIONS ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED
MILLION COME FROM TWO PROGRAMS.
THE CALIFORNIA RESEARCH PAYMENT
PROGRAM WITH THE BUDGET REVERTS
FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF
EMERGENCY RELIEF FUNDS IN TWENTY
TWO TWENTY THREE. BASED OFF OF
ACTUAL APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AND
APPROVED- APPROVED FOR FUNDING.
ADDITIONALLY THE BUDGET CAN- AND
INCLUDES A REDUCTION OF TWO
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY MILLION
DOLLARS AND TWENTY THREE TWENTY
FOUR FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SOLAR
AND STORAGE PROGRAM AT THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. AND
THIS IS- STILL MAINTAINS
APPROXIMATELY SIX HUNDRED AND
THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOLAR
AND STORAGE AND CENTERS
PRIORITISING LOW INCOME UTILITY
CUSTOMERS- I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO
ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON THE OTHER
REDUCTIONS BUT- IN THE INTEREST
OF BREVITY ARE ABOUT TURNED OVER
TO IMPLEMENTATION UPDATES FROM
OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND
I'LL START WITH CVC- AND. GOOD
AFTERNOON- SENATORS AND
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS DINA
CARILLO I AM THE DIRECTOR OF A
NEWLY RESTRUCTURED INCENTIVES
DIVISION OUT THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION. HOPING TO
LAUNCH SOME OF OUR NEW PROGRAMS
OR IMPLEMENTING I CAN PROVIDE
SOME COMMENTS ON OUR STRATEGIC
RELIABILITY RESEARCH
SPECIFICALLY THE DEMAND SIDE
GREAT SUPPORT PROGRAM. AND THIS
TRIBUTE TO THE BACK OF ASSETS
PROGRAM. DSDS WAS LAUNCHED
QUICKLY LAST SUMMER IN ORDER TO
PROVIDE THREE HUNDRED MEGAWATTS-
BEFORE SEPTEMBER EXTREME- HE'D
EVENT THIS LAST SUMMER WE'RE NOW
WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM TO
EXPAND IT- HAVE ISSUED A FEW
WORKSHOPS AND WILL BE LAUNCHING
WAS A NEW GUIDELINES OF THIS
MONTH. TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO
ACCOMMODATE AB TWO OH NINE.
WHICH EXPANDED THE PROGRAM AND-
I OWE YOU AN P. C. JURISDICTIONS
. ACCORDING DEBATE WHICH IS THE
DISTRIBUTED ELECTRICITY BACK UP
ASSETS PROGRAM WE HOSTED A
NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS AND WILL BE
ISSUING A SUMMER- CHALLENGE
GRANT WHILE WE CONTINUE TO
LAUNCH THAT PROGRAM AND SEEKS
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK. I'M I CAN
ALSO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON
OUR ACQUITTAL BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION PROGRAM THIS
PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON OUR
NEEDIEST CALIFORNIANS AND
DECARBONIZING I'M OUR EXISTING
BUILDING STOCK WHICH PRODUCES
ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT. OF
OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
UNDER THAT PROGRAM WE'VE ISSUED
AN RFI ISSUED SOME STAKEHOLDER
WORK WORKSHOPS IT'S A VERY
DELIBERATE OF COMPLEX PROCESS
THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS AT
A REGIONAL LEVEL. TO MEET
CALIFORNIA'S WEEK- MOST
VULNERABLE AND THAT PROGRAM AND
WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE GUIDELINES
ISSUED THIS SPRING AND WILL
SLOWLY LUNCH. FOR THAT
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK. HAPPY TO.
GO AHEAD. AND GOOD AFTERNOON I'M
DAVID EARNED FROM THE ENERGY
COMMISSION WITH A DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE ENERGY
ASSISTANCE DIVISION. AS WELL TO
GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME OF
THE REPORTS WE PROVIDED TO THE
LEGISLATURE SO FAR THIS YEAR IN
RESPONSE TO SB FORTY SIX IN AB
TWO OH FIVE. THOSE INCLUDE A
REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED EARLIER
IN FEBRUARY ON A RELIABILITY
SITUATION FOR THE SUMMER
BASICALLY 484-063-2030 AND FOR
TWO FIVE THREE TWENTY TWENTY
SIX. THE SUMMARY OF THAT REPORT-
SHOWS THAT THE CPC PROCUREMENT-
IN THE NEAR TERM IS GOING TO BE
PROVIDING- RELIABILITY- SURPLUS
FOR THE STATE OUR FOR THE CASE
OF TERRITORY- THIS SUMMER NEXT
THE NEXT FEW SUMMERS- ASSUMING
THAT WE HAVE AVERAGE WEATHER
CONDITIONS. IF WE HAVE
CONDITIONS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE
SAW IN TWENTY TWENTY OR TWENTY
TWENTY TWO LAST YEAR SO THE
OUTAGES IN TWENTY TWENTY AND
THEN IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO AND WE
HAD THE HEAT EVENT IN SEPTEMBER-
OR IF WE HAD A COINCIDENT EVENT.
SUCH AS- ONE OF THOSE HEAT
EVENTS AND THE EQUIVALENT OF THE
BOOTLEG FIRE CAUSING A FOUR
THOUSAND MEGAWATT OUT- CAPACITY
REDUCTION ON THE TRANSMISSION
YOU KNOW IMPORTS. THEN WE COULD
BE IN A SITUATION OF NOT HAVING
SUFFICIENT RESOURCES AVAILABLE
TO KEEP THE GRID- RELIABLE. FOR
THOSE CASES WE HAVE THE
STRATEGIC RELIABILITY RESERVE AS
BEING MENTIONED- WHICH IS
PROVIDING BACK UP. SUPPORT FOR
THE GRID IN THE EVENT THAT WE
HAVE THOSE CONDITIONS. THAT
DEPENDING UPON THE SEVERITY OF
THE VENDOR THE OR THE CONTINGENT
OR THE- TYPES OF EVENTS CENTER
COINCIDENT- THAT MAY BE
SUFFICIENT TO COVER AND PROVIDE
US- SUFFICIENT SUPPORT- IF WE
HAVE AGAIN A SITUATION LIKE THAT
WE LIKE FIRE CLINTON WITH THE
HEAT EVENT WE WOULD BE.
CHALLENGE WITH THE GRID. AND SO-
WE ARE- ALSO RECOMMENDING SOME
ADDITIONAL AUG AUGMENTATION OF
THE STRATEGIC RESERVE- OVER THE
NEXT FEW YEARS TO HELP SUPPORT
IN THOSE CONDITIONS- AS FAR AS-
WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE MOVING OUT
FORWARD FOR- FOR SUPPLY. WE HAVE
A HEALTHY GROWTH OF SUPPLY IN
THE STATE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF
CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES- BUT
WE HAVE FOUND THAT. THE AMOUNT
IF WE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT
OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE NEED TO
BE REQUIRED TO MEET- CQC'S
PROCUREMENT ORDER OR THE
PREFERRED SYSTEM PLAN. IS GONNA
REQUIRE EVEN GREATER BUILD OUT-
OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN YEARS
IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
THE STATE FOR ITS CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS. AS WELL AS OUR SYSTEM
RELIABILITY. AND WE HAVE ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT REPORTS OF
THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE
CURRENTLY EXISTING WITH- GETTING
PROJECTS ONLINE INCLUDING
PERMITTING INTERCONNECTION AND
SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. AND THE
STATE IS WORKING ON THOSE ISSUES
WITH DEVELOPERS WITH- PERMITTING
AUTHORITIES WITH INTERCONNECTION
AUTHORITIES TRY TO OVERCOME SOME
OF THOSE CHALLENGES. I THINK
THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW ANYTHING
ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.
GOOD MORNING A CHAIR BAKER NICE
TO SEE YOU AS SENATOR DOLLY AS
WELL- RETAIL PETERSON EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION I'LL
JUST GIVE A BRIEF. UPDATE ON SO
TWO OF THE ITEMS THAT MISTER
NABHAN MENTIONED AS FAR AS OUR
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BUDGET ACT
FROM TWENTY TWENTY TWO. THE
FIRST IS THE SELF GENERATION
INCENTIVE PROGRAM AS HE NOTED
THERE IS A PROPOSED REDUCTION TO
THAT PROGRAM REGARDLESS OF THE
FINAL AMOUNT THE CPUC NEEDS TO
HAVE AN OPEN ACTIVE RULEMAKING
IN ORDER TO DETERMINE. HOW THOSE
FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED
CONSISTENT WITH DIRECTION- TO-
PRIORITIZE LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS
WE HAVE AN ACTIVE RULEMAKING
OPEN- OF RULING WAS ISSUED IN
STAKEHOLDERS- COMMENTED ON IT
AND SO ARE PROCEEDING IS ACTIVE
AND READY TO GO. ON THE- GRANT
PROGRAM FOR CLEAN ENERGY ACCESS
IN OTHER ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE
ENGAGED APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED
HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE STAKEHOLDER
GROUPS. SINCE JANUARY OF THIS
YEAR IN A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS
FOCUS GROUPS WEBINARS IN ORDER
TO TAKE COMMENT ON A PROGRAM
DESIGNED THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE BUDGET ACT OF TWENTY TWENTY
TWO. WE HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THAT
INPUT INTO ACCOUNT AND ARE
DESIGNING THE PROGRAM RULES FOR
IMPLEMENTATION AND EXPECT TO
ISSUE A STOP RESOLUTION
PROPOSING PROGRAM STRUCTURE.
RULES GUIDELINES CRITERIA
ETCETERA IN THE SPRING SO WE CAN
BEGIN- ISSUING GRANTS OVER THE
SUMMER. THAT'S MY REPORT ON THE
IMPLEMENTATION TODAY I KNOW WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER ENERGY
RELATED TOPICS I HAVE DEPUTY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LUONG TESTIFY
WITH ME TODAY. FOUR OF WHAT I
EXPECT TO BE A DEEP DIVE INTO
OTHER ENERGY MATTERS THANK YOU.
GREAT THANK YOU NEXT UP WE'LL
HEAR FROM LA- THANK YOU I'M THIS
IS SERRA CORNET WITH THE OHIO.
SO THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSING
ABOUT NINE HUNDRED MILLION AND
REDUCTIONS WE FIND THESE TO BE
MOSTLY REASONABLE PRODUCTIONS
ARE OCCURRING ACROSS PROGRAMS
AND NEWER PROGRAMS ARE ONES THAT
ARE EARLY AND IMPLEMENTATION ARE
TARGETED. THE LARGEST REDUCTIONS
ARE IN THE RESIDENTIAL EVERY
RICH PAYMENT PROGRAMS
RESIDENTIAL SOLAR AND STORAGE
PROGRAM AND THE EQUITABLE
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION PROGRAM
WHICH POSE FOR A DELAY. AGAIN WE
FIND THIS TO BE REASONABLE AND
BENEFITS FOR LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES ARE PRIORITIZED SO
FOR EXAMPLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL
SOLAR AND STORAGE PROGRAM THE
RETAIN FUNDING WOULD
SPECIFICALLY SUPPORT RESIDENTS
IN A LOW INCOME OR DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITY. AND ACCORDING TO THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE NEW
PROPOSED AMOUNT IN THERE
ORIGINALLY MEANT PROGRAM WOULD
BE ENOUGH TO FULLY COVER
EXISTING NEED UNDER THAT
PROGRAM'S CURRENT. ELIGIBILITY
REQUIREMENTS. THE GOVERNOR IS
NOT PROPOSING ANY REDUCTIONS TO
RELIABILITY PROGRAMS AND WALL
RELIABILITY IS CLEARLY VERY
IMPORTANT TO CALIFORNIA- WE
THINK THESE PROGRAMS COULD BE
WORTH CONSIDERING AS IT'S NOT
CLEAR IF ALL OF THE FUNDING IS
NEEDED NOW. SO FOR EXAMPLE THERE
HAS BEEN NO SPENDING- SO FAR IN
THAT DISTRIBUTE ELECTRICITY BACK
UP ASSETS PROGRAM MORE DIVA.
WHICH RECEIVED SEVEN HUNDRED
MILLION LAST YEAR- AND THESE
PROGRAMS ARE ALSO PROPOSED TO
RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING
THROUGH THE CLEAN ENERGY
RELIABILITY INVESTMENT PLAN. WE
THINK ADDITIONAL SOLUTIONS MAY
BE NEEDED GIVEN THE BUDGET
PICTURE SO WE PROVIDE A COUPLE
OF EXAMPLES IN OUR REPORT- THE
CLIMATE INNOVATION GRANTS
PROGRAM THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM
AND HASN'T REALLY GOTTEN OFF THE
GROUND. FOR THE ORAL FOR THE
ORACLE PUMP STORAGE PROJECT WE
THINK THE LEGISLATURE COULD
PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE
PERMITTING AND PLANNING FOR THAT
PROJECT NOW SO WE CAN MAKE SOME
PROGRESS BUT WAIT TO PROVIDE THE
FULL AMOUNT UNTIL. THE PROJECT
HAS MORE ACCURATE COST ESTIMATE.
THANK YOU. I THINK YOU. WITHOUT
WITH THE QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS
CENTER DOLLY. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE RIGHT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR BILL
FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE IT'S
OBVIOUSLY MY DISTRICT IN IN-
FIRST I WANT TO JUST SAY- NO
OBVIOUS WE HAVE A BUDGET PROBLEM
THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT AND WE
- AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT
INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH I THINK
THE- GENTLEMAN FROM THE C. C.
TALKED ABOUT I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT LIKE THE GRID. STABILITY
STABILITY AND HOOKUPS BECAUSE
I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM CCA'S AND
THE LIKES OF TRYING TO ACTUALLY
GET THE I'LL USE IN THOSE PEOPLE
THAT ACTUALLY SO THAT'S A SECOND
QUESTION BUT FOR THE FOR THE
PUMP STORAGE PROJECT- IT OR-
IT'S SEVERELY GREAT
ENVIRONMENTAL. OBJECT IT'S USING
WATER AS THE BATTERY WILL HAVE
TO CREATE THE BATTERY THOUGH SO-
AND I KNOW THAT TIME WE WERE
ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED MEGAWATT
SHORT. I THINK LAST YEAR I THINK
THAT WAS ABOUT THE DELTA BETWEEN
WHERE WE WERE. GONNA HAVE A
BLACKOUT OR NOT AND IT DURING
THESE EXTREME EVENTS I DON'T
THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT THIS
YEAR I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF
MOISTURE IN THIS YEAR IS RIGHT
NOW TO RUN. OF THE HYDRO PLANTS
WE SAW OR BILL LAST YEAR
ACTUALLY GET BELOW THE AMOUNT
WHICH IS EIGHT HUNDRED MEGAWATTS
SO- I THINK WE'LL BE PRETTY GOOD
SHAPE THIS YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF.
MOTHER NATURE IS REALLY BLESSED
US WITH ALMOST TOO MUCH WATER-
SO BUT B. WITH THAT BEING SAID
WE ARE WE ARE GOING TO END UP.
SOME AT SOME POINT WITH.
ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR GRID AND
MOVING TOWARDS OUR TARGETS- VERY
SHORT WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO. POWER
THESE VEHICLES AND NOT ONLY
THAT- THE TECHNOLOGY OF GETTING
BATTERIES AND ALL THAT THAT'S A
PROBLEM BUT THE GRID IS. A PLACE
WHERE WE NEED TO REALLY. GROW
OUR ELECTRIC. VACATION OF
CALIFORNIA. AND SOME ESTIMATES
SAY THAT BY TWENTY THIRTY FIVE
WE NEED TEN POWER PLANTS THE
SIZE OF DIABLO I'M- I DON'T KNOW
HOW ACCURATE THAT IS BUT THAT'S
A LOT OF POWER AND YOU KNOW HOW
HARD IT IS TO BUILD. SOMETHING
IN CALIFORNIA WE ARE FACED WITH
THOSE CHALLENGES. THIS PROJECT
BY THE WAY IS. AN EXISTING.
PROJECT I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO
PRINT BUT WE NEED TO PUT THIS ON
THE FAST TRACK BECAUSE THIS IS
ACTUALLY ONE- THAT IS
ENVIRONMENTALLY GREAT. FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT IT HELPS WITH THE
WATER PROBLEMS WE HAVE FOR FISH
AND ALSO CREATE STORE-
ELECTRICITY. AND WE CAN REUSE
THAT WATER SO. I WANT TO JUST GO
ON RECORD AS SAYING I KNOW THE
L. A. O. IS LOOKING AT IT. BUT
AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS
ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT
REALLY. SHOULD HAPPEN AND IT
BECAUSE NOT ONLY FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO FOR THE
FIVE HUNDRED MAY ALSO WANT TO
PUT THAT OUT THERE NO I WANTED.
THAT CHANGEOVER TO- TALK ABOUT
THE GRID AND- THE ABILITY TO BE
ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET ARE GREETED
IN A PLACE WHERE WE CAN- GET
THESE HOOK UPS FOR THE- FOR THE-
UTILITIES QUITE FRANKLY. THE
CCA'S. AND FOR THESE- MICROGRID
WE CALL THEM TO BE ABLE TO
PRODUCE ENERGY IN A CERTAIN AREA
AND ACTUALLY GET THOSE HOOK UPS
AND I I'D LIKE TO. KNOW WHAT
YOU'VE LEARNED IN YOUR STUDY ON
THAT BECAUSE- I'M HEARING FROM-
PROVIDERS WHETHER IT'S A CCA.
FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS JUST DOING A
PROJECT WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN
WHO. ARE TRYING TO ELECTRIFY
PUTTING IN. THE CHARGING
STATIONS WHO CAN'T GET THE
CONNECTION. SO CAN WE CAN SOME
EXPAND ON THAT MAYBE FOR A
MINUTE. ACTUALLY TURNED TO SEE
IF YOU SEE TO DISCUSS THE
INTERCONNECTION THE UTILITY
LEVEL. THANK YOU SENATOR WE
SHARE THE CONCERN AND- WE'VE
BEEN VERY ACTIVE ON THAT FRONT.
AND SO DIRECTOR TESTIFY WILL-
SPEAK MORE TO THAT POINT- YOU
KNOW FOR US IT'S ABOUT THE
CONNECTIONS FOR BY CUSTOMERS TO
THE UTILITIES DISTRIBUTION GRID
SO JUST TO CLARIFY WE'RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT GENERATION
PROJECTS THOSE ARE. THE PROVINCE
OF THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATOR. BUT WE ABSOLUTELY
SHARE THE CONCERN AND HAVE
DEDICATED SOME STAFF RESOURCES
INTERNALLY TO ADDRESS THE MOST
URGENT CONCERNS FIRST. WHICH
STRETCH ACROSS. THERE A LOT
FOCUSING PG&E SERVICE
TERRITORIES I THINK YOU'RE
AWARE. BUT THEY ACTUALLY DO
STRETCH ACROSS THE OTHER
ELECTRIC UTILITIES AS WELL. SO
LET DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
TESTS I TAKE IT FROM THERE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ALSO OVER THE
PAST SEVERAL MONTHS THE CPUC HAS
RECEIVED SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR
ASSISTANCE FROM COMMUNITIES ON
THIS ISSUE- AS SEVERAL COMING
FROM A DIFFERENT MEMBERS OFFICES
AND WE REALLY HAVE. A THREE
PRONGED APPROACH HERE SO SHORT
MEDIUM AND LONG TERM SO AS- W.
AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RACHEL
PETERSON MENTIONED. A FOR THE
SHORT TERM WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER
A SPECIFIC STAFF GROUP WE HAVE
BEEN PROVIDING HANDS ON SERVICE
TO THESE PARTICULARLY LARGE
CUSTOMERS. I'M TALKING LIKE-
DEVELOPMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS
THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND THOSE
STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING DIRECTLY
WITH THOSE CUSTOMERS AND THE
UTILITIES OFTEN PG&E. TO HELP
RIGHT SIZE THEIR PROJECTS MAKE
SURE THAT YOU KNOW THE PLANS
THAT THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE FOR
THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THAT
THEY NEED IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY
NEED. AND THEN COORDINATING WITH
PG&E TO DO SHORT TERM
ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS TO BE ABLE
TO BRING THOSE OUT OF PROJECTS
ONLINE AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
SUCCESS AND POSITIVE. FEEDBACK
FROM THAT SPECIFIC INTERACTION
THIS IS A LEVEL OF US STAFF WORK
THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE
AND IT'S BEEN GREAT TO BE ABLE
TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. OF THE
SECOND HAS BEEN OF THE MEDIUM
TERM AND SO LARGE FOCUS THERE
HAS BEEN ON. P. GINNY'S GENERAL
RATE CASE AND SO THIS IS THEIR-
THEIR- FOR YOUR PLAN FOR THEIR
BUDGETS ARE REVENUE
REQUIREMENTS. AND SO WE STILL WE
HAVE STAFF FROM THAT SAME
DISTRIBUTION PLANNING BRANCH
ADVISING THE DECISION MAKERS IN
THAT PROCEEDING. FOCUSING IN ON
THE COMPONENTS OF THE
APPLICATION THAT ARE ON-
INTERCONNECTION AND DISTRIBUTION
PLANNING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
BUDGETS THAT WILL BE APPROVING-
IN Q. THREE OF THIS YEAR THAT'S
IN THE FINAL DECISION WILL BE
OUT- MATCH. WHAT WE'RE HEARING
FROM THE COMMUNITIES IN THE
AMOUNT OF SOME FINANCIAL SUPPORT
THAT'S NEEDED TO DO THESE
CUSTOMER INTERCONNECTIONS. AND
THEN THE THIRD IS THE LONG TERM
AND SO THERE I WANTED TO
HIGHLIGHT TWO DIFFERENT
INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE GOING
SO THE FIRST IS. A PROCEEDING
CALLED THE HIGH DISTRIBUTED
ENERGY RESOURCES PROCEEDING. AND
SO THAT PROCEEDING IS FOCUSED
RIGHT NOW ON- CHANGING OUR
DISTRIBUTION PLANNING FRAMEWORKS
SO THAT'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
WAYS. ONE HOW THE UTILITIES ARE
INTERACTING WITH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS WITH PLANNING
AGENCIES IN ORDER TO BE WELL
INFORMED OF WHAT THESE
COMMUNITIES ARE LOOKING FOR
ECONOMIC GROWTH PUBLIC SAFETY AT
CENTER AND MAKING SURE THAT'S
INFORMING BE UTILITIES
DISTRIBUTION PLANNING. IT'S ALSO
LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE USING DATA
AND CHANGING HOW WE USE DATA IN
ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MORE
ACCURATELY FORECAST SCENARIOS.
OF WHERE LOAD IS GOING TO BE
SHOWING UP ON THE SYSTEM AND
MAKING SURE THAT THE
DISTRIBUTION PLANNING. IS
ATTUNED TO THAT NEW DATA- AND
FOR PART OF THAT WORK WERE ALSO
A COLLABORATING WITH THE CDC AND
HOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR- DEMAND
FORECAST IN SEEING ARE THERE
OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE THAT
WORK. IN ORDER TO BETTER INFORM
WHERE WE'RE SEEING LOW SHOW UP.
AND THEN THE LAST INITIATIVE BUT
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS ON
THE TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRIFICATION SIDE I THINK YOU
MENTIONED- ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING AS WELL. AND THAT IS A
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE- TO US AS
WELL AND SO THIS STEP WE HAVE A
STAFF INITIATIVE THAT'S WORKING
WITH AIR RESOURCES BOARD.
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
CALIFORNIA TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
TO INFORM THE DISTRIBUTION
PLANNING TO SPECIFICALLY SUPPORT
MEDIUM DUTY AND HEAVY DUTY. ARE
FLEETS AND THEY'RE CHARGING-
MANY ISSUES AROUND THAT- THAT TO
SUPPORT BUT REALLY AN EQUITY
ISSUE AS WELL AS WE KNOW THAT.
THAT CHARGING IS GOING TO BE
GOING YOUR PORTS YOUR
DISTRIBUTION CENTERS- AREAS THAT
HAVE BEEN REALLY IMPACTED BY-
VEHICLE POLLUTION SO. THOSE ARE
THE SHORT TERM MEDIUM TERM AND
LONG TERM STRATEGIES FOR
CUSTOMER INTERCONNECTION. THANK
YOU AND IF I MIGHT ADD THE CDC-
IS ALSO INCORPORATING OR
CONSIDERING. OPPORTUNITIES FOR
IMPROVING INTERCONNECTION AND
IDENTIFYING THOSE ISSUES THIS
YEAR ARE INTEGRATED ENERGY
POLICY REPORT. SO WE'LL BE
SPENDING THIS YEAR HAVING
WORKSHOPS AND DIGGING INTO-
BOTH- INTERCONNECTION OF THE
DISTRIBUTION AND ON THE
TRANSMISSION SIDE. AND LOOKING
FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THE-
STREAMLINE THOSE PROCESSES
RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE SOME
CHALLENGES NOW. AND IT'S GOING
TO GET MORE CHALLENGING AS WE
HAVE MORE RESOURCES THAT WOULD
BE- ATTACHING TO THE GRAND
CENTRAL. SO WHEN WE HAD OUR
HEARING AND WE HAD IN FRONT OF
THE ENERGY COMMITTEE WE HAD THIS
IF YOU SEE AND I YOU KNOW. I
THINK OF FRUSTRATION IS THAT.
THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT SILOS
AT SO WE HAVE THE CVC WITH CC
THERE I'M GLAD WE'RE ALL IN THE
SAME ROOM AT ONE POINT BECAUSE I
THINK- ASSEMBLY WHO TRY TO LOOK
AT CALIFORNIA'S A HOLD SAYS OKAY
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND
HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE-
THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING HAS TO
GO INTO THAT AND THERE HAS TO BE
A LOT OF- DATA FIGURED OUT ON.
WHAT WHAT ARE WE WHERE ARE WE
LACKING TRANSMISSIONS ARE WHO
WHO TAKES CARE OF THE BIG
TRANSMISSION LINES AND THEN WHO
TAKES CARE OF THE- THE HOOK UP
IT LIKE FOR A DEVELOPMENT WHO'S
WHO'S IN. CONTROL OF THAT. SO
FOR THE TRANSMISSION LINES-
GENERATOR INTERCONNECTION AS ODD
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PETERSON SAID
THAT IS THE CASE SO AND SO
THEY'RE RUNNING AN INITIATIVE ON
GENERATOR INTERCONNECTION AND
ENHANCEMENTS TO IMPROVING THAT
PROCESS- ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE.
OF IT THAT IS HOUSE TO THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION IN
OUR REGULATION. OF THE UTILITIES
. AND IF I MIGHT ADD FLOW FOR
THE COORDINATION PIECE SO. THE
PREPARATION FOR- INCORPORATING
INTERCONNECTION THE OPPOSITION
RECORD NEEDED WITH CBC AND WITH
CALAIS SO. TO ENGAGE TO ENSURE
THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
AMONG THE THREE ENTITIES AND
DISCUSS THESE ISSUES
COLLECTIVELY. OKAY SO WE SO IT'S
BASICALLY ALL THREE IS THE AYE
SO SEE IF YOU SEE SEE SEE THAT
DOES IT. THAT'S CORRECT AND THAT
KIND OF SPEAKS TO WE SIGNED AN
MOU- THAT WAS SUPPORTED THROUGH
LEGISLATION LAST YEAR. AND THAT
WAS SIGNED IN DECEMBER AND SO
THROUGH THAT AND- YOU WERE ABLE
TO FOR THE GENERATOR
INTERCONNECTION SIDE. ENHANCE
THE WAY WERE ABLE TO WORK
TOGETHER SO FOR EXAMPLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION- HOLD A HAS
A LOT OF THE CONFIDENTIAL MARKET
SENSITIVE. A PPA PUBLIC- PPA
POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT UP
MISSION WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
EASILY SHARE THAT WITH THE
KAISER PREVIOUSLY. BECAUSE OF
THE CURRENT RULES ABOUT MARKET
SENSITIVE CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION BUT THE MO YOU THAT
WAS SIGNED IN DECEMBER PURSUANT
TO THE LEGISLATION IS GOING TO
BE ABLE TO HELP US- SHARE THAT
INFORMATION. AND USE IT TO
ENHANCE GENERATOR
INTERCONNECTION INITIATIVES. SO
IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE BEFORE I WAS
LEGISLATURE I BUILT POWER PLANTS
AND WE HAD TO HAVE A PPA. BEFORE
WE COULD EVER WE HAD TO GET
INNER TIE BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD
THE PLANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR ENERGY
OUT SO. AS SOMEBODY WHO'S
LOOKING AT THE STATE WE'RE
TRYING TO GO TO ELECTRIFICATION.
AS LEGISLATORS WE NEED A ROAD
MAP THAT SAYS. HEY THIS IS WHERE
WE'RE SHORT GROUP SO WE CAN SO
WE CAN PUT THE PRESSURE ON THOSE
WHO NEED TO DEVELOP WERE THAT WE
NEED TO DEVELOP AND THAT'S- BEEN
SUCH A PRESSURES WE GET. ALL
THESE PEACE BILLS COMING IN AND
WE HAVE. THE DEVELOPERS OF. OF
DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLEAN ENERGY
PROJECTS WHO ARE COMING TO OUR
OFFICES AND SAY HEY WE AND THEY
BLAME THE UTILITY THE NEW TILDES
TARGET NUMBER ONE. BUT I HAVE
SEVERAL DIFFERENT UTILITIES IN
MY DISTRICT I HAVE P. JEANNIE I
HAVE SMART I HAVE. A RULE THAT
TRICKS. AND SO I ACTUALLY IT
LIVE IN A RULE ELECTRIC RIGHT
BOTH FROM MY BOARD MEMBER AND I
KNOW AND THE- PERSON THAT RUNS
IT WE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL
TOGETHER. SO I CAN CALL HIM ON
THE PHONE AND SAY HEY. WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH. GETTING CONNECTED
NOW. WHAT HE WOULD SHARE WITH ME
IS THAT. A VALUABLE AVAILABILITY
OF TRANSFORMERS HAS. IS SCARCE.
ALL RIGHT AND SO THERE'S A LAG
TIME AND THE COST HAVE. TRIPLED
OR QUADRUPLED IN SOME CASES. SO
AND I KNOW THAT HE GIVES GREAT
SERVICE BECAUSE I. RECEIVE
SERVICE NOW I MY FARMS IN P.
GINNY AND I. CAN'T SAY THE SAME.
FOR THAT UTILITY. THAT THE
SERVICES THERE. BUT IT REALLY
BOILS DOWN FOR LEGISLATORS TO
KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING SO WE CAN
MAKE. GOOD SOUND DECISIONS TO
GET US. TO WHERE THE GOALS WE
HAVE SET AND THAT'S BEEN A
FRUSTRATION MYSELF. AND I'VE
BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND
I LITERALLY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY
DIFFERENT SILOS. AND SO MANY ANY
TALK ABOUT THEIR RESOURCES
BORDERS AS AS FOLK THERE FOCUSES
ON. DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO. TAKE
CARE OF AIR QUALITY IN THAT
COMMUNITY AND YOU MENTIONED THE
PART FOR THE PORCHES WHERE YOU
HAVE ALL THE BIG TRUCKS TO MOVE
ALL THE- SUPPLIES OUT. SO I
WOULD JUST LOVE TO HAVE A REPORT
THAT SAYS HEY. IF WE BUILT A
POWER PLANT IN WHEREVER. IT
WOULD ALLEVIATE. THE GREAT THIS
STRAIN ON THE GRID. SO THAT WE
CAN ACTUALLY DO CLEAN ENERGY
PROJECTS BECAUSE WE OVERPRODUCED
WE KNOW THAT IN SOME AREAS. AT
CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY AND WE
UNDER. OTHERS BUT WE CAN'T GET
THE POWER. FROM ONE PLACE TO THE
OTHER TO ACTUALLY. DRIVE DOWN
OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AT THE SAME
TIME DRIVE DOWN PRICES MY GOAL
IS TO GET. THE PRICES DOWN SO
CALIFORNIANS. ARE NOT SUFFERING
AT THE SAME TIME SAY THE
ENVIRONMENT SO. THAT'S THE
FRUSTRATION AND I WAS JUST THE
OVER ARCHING. AND I'M AND REALLY
NEED THE ICE SO HERE IN THE CAR
BOARD ACTUALLY SIT DOWN OKAY
WHAT'S THE PLAN. BECAUSE AT THE
END OF THE DAY AS A LEGISLATOR
WE CAN SET ALL THE TARGETS IN
THE WORLD WE WANT. AND FEEL GOOD
ABOUT IT. BUT IF WE CAN'T MEET
THOSE TARGETS AT THE SAME TIME
WE'RE DRIVING UP THE COST. OF
ELECTRICITY IN CALIFORNIA IT
DOESN'T WORK. NOT ALL JUST OUT
THE INTENT OF OUR THE I PER THIS
YEAR. IS TO HELP DEVELOP THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU
I'M. MISTER BURNING FOB ON THE
INTERCONNECTION SHE'S. NOT IN A
CONNECTION I DO HAVE A QUESTION
I JUST TWENTY TWO HUNDRED.
BECAUSE THE ENERGY PACKAGE. AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME THE MISTER
CHAIR OF THE TEACHERS GO AHEAD.
OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THE
QUESTION ON FOR THE C. E. C. ON
THIS ISSUE PATARA MISTER CHAIR
YEAH. SO I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE
FORTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS- THAT
WAS ADVANCED LAST YEAR- TO BE
ABLE TO MOVE ON PORT.
INFRASTRUCTURE SO I'M JUST
WONDERING WHO WOULD BE HERE. WHO
WOULD BE BEST TO BE ABLE TO.
TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I CAN
TALK ABOUT AT A HIGH LEVEL AND
IF THE IF YOU GET INTO DETAILS
WE CAN RESPOND BACK TO THE MORE
DETAILED QUESTIONS. OKAY THAT'S
GREAT THANK YOU. SO BOTTOM LINE
IS YOU KNOW PART HUMBOLDT- IN
GRATEFUL. TO THAT INVESTMENT
THAT IS COME IN SO FAR PARKS ME
TEN MILLION DOLLARS. OF STATE
FUNDING. HAS BEEN ADVANCEPIERRE
TO LOOK AT- DEVELOPMENT. OF
PUTTING TOGETHER- OFFSHORE
WINTER WIND TURBINES AT THE PORT
OF HUMBLE- THE NORTHERNMOST.
DEEPWATER PORT IN THE STATE. SO
LAST YEAR AT FORTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS WAS ADVANCED VERY
GENERAL TO THE CDC. AGAIN
LOOKING AT THE ISSUE OF PORT
INFRASTRUCTURE- WHEN WE CHECKED
IN PRIOR TO THIS HEARING ABOUT.
WHAT ARE THE DETAILS IN REGARDS
TO THE FORTY FIVE. MILLION I'M-
HERE SO WE GOT THE PROGRAM WILL
ADVANCE THE CAPABILITIES OF
CALIFORNIA PORTS HARBOURS AND
OTHER WATERFRONT FACILITIES. I
CAN GO ON BUT LEGALLY REPEATED
BACK WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW. SO
SHERIN LITTLE BIT OF
FRUSTRATION- OF WANTING TO BE A
TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING
THE TIMELINE. THE LINES THAT YOU
HAVE ALREADY SET. AND WHEN WILL
BE AVAILABLE FOR FUNDING FOR
PORTS. SO FOR THOSE DETAILS WE
WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU IN
WRITING ON THAT. QUESTION I
DON'T WANT SO OKAY. RT NOT
WRITING IN IT LATER THEY CAME
BACK AND YOU CAN YOU HEAR MY
FRUSTRATION AND I APOLOGIZE TO
ARMS. SO I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE
IN WRITING AND LIKE TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE
TRIED IT IN WRITING AND IT WAS
JUST BEING CANDID REGURGITATED
BACK OF WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL DO
WE ARE YOU KNOW THE PROGRAM DO.
WE WANT TO KNOW IS HOW IT'S
GOING TO BE SPENT WHEN WILL BE
AVAILABLE- AND HOW LONG WILL
THAT TAKE. BE HAPPY TO SET UP A-
MEETING WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF
HAVE LIKE TO HAVE A DEEPER
CONVERSATION THAT THE PERFECT
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HAVE THAT
THE BILL DO THAT THE NEXT COUPLE
WEEKS CELLS START YOUR
FRUSTRATION I DON'T KNOW I
APPRECIATE IT IT'S JUST- THERE'S
A LOT OF PRIVATE CAPITAL OUT
THERE THAT'S DEPENDENT ON. BOTH
STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING RIGHT
AND- WE'RE WAITING FOR THE FED
TO BE A COMING AGAIN LITTLE BIT
FRUSTRATION THE FEDERAL FRONT
BUT WE WON'T GO THERE- AND- THE
STATE HAS BEEN GREAT RIGHT- SO I
WANNA MAKE SURE AND SAY THAT AND
SEES HE'S BEEN GREAT REGARDS
THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT. BUT WE
WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON
SEDITION FORTY FIVE. SEPARATE
SHOULD THE FORTY CAN I GATHER
WILL BE REACHED THANK YOU. BUT
THE- YOU. I'M DO A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS MAYBE THE IS FOR OTHER
QUESTIONS FOR MY CALL. YEAH AND
WHEN I THINK SYMBOLIC REASON.
ISSUE THE END OF THE- OF CA. TO
ME. MY CAR. HAVE SB FOURTEEN. TO
WORK ON THIS- A- I WAS VERY
PROUD- FOR MEN. OF MY
COLLEAGUES. YOU YOU'RE HEARING
OUR AND- THINK IN OUR IN OUR-
HERE. OF L. GET IT. THREE FOUR
TOP. I JUST I WANTED TO. TALK
ABOUT IS- YOU KNOW THE LAST.
HEARING I ASK TO COME- OPEN HIS.
WITH THE JUNE. SURE THAT WERE.
AND FOR. THE AYE AYE J. I ARE A-
SICK. FAT A CLEAN ENERGY. AND
THE C. C. MENTION. THERE ARE-
PURSUING OTHER FUTURE FUNDING
AND- AND BRING HER STAFF TO
VISIT. HE ON- YOU KNOW BUT A
FORTUNE OF THE TWENTY ONE.
PROJECTS ARE BETTER
MANUFACTURING SO FAR WORTH ABOUT
TWO POINT EIGHT BILLION WE'VE
NOT RECEIVED. ANY OF THOSE. SO
I'M I'M WONDERING. YOU KNOW WHAT
WHY DO YOU. WELL FOLKS AGENCY
WHAT WE THINK THAT IS WHAT WE
DOING DIFFERENTLY. I'M MAYBE
JUST START THAT. THEN I HAVE
INVOLVED QUESTION THANK. HI MY
NAME IS JENNIFER MARTIN GUARDADO
AND I'M AN ADVISER TO THE CHAIR
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION. I MANAGING ENERGY
COMMISSION'S EFFORTS AROUND THE
FEDERAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES-
I'D LIKE TO OF. TALK TO YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BATTERY
MANUFACTURING WE ALSO WERE
DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT RESULT
AND SO WE DID REACH OUT TO DEAL
WITH BEFORE BRIEFING. AND WHAT
IT THE SITUATION IS THIS THE
SOLICITATION THAT DEAL WE PUT
OUT FOR BATTERY MANUFACTURING
HAD THREE GENERAL BUCKETS. OF
OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU COULD GO
FOR IT UPSTREAM STUFF LIKE
PROCESSING- THOSE MATERIALS
NEEDED FOR BATTERIES THE SECOND
BUCKET WHICH IS. THE A CELL PACK
MANUFACTURING. AND THEN FINALLY
RECYCLING. DO YOU WE ISSUED I
BELIEVE IT WAS TWENTY ONE
AWARDS. THEY ONLY THEY ISSUED
TWENTY OF THOSE IN THE UPSTREAM
MANUFACTURING ONE IN RECYCLING
AND MOST OF THE OF CALIFORNIA
APPLICANTS WERE GOING FOR THAT
CELL AND PACK MANUFACTURING. AND
A DEAL WE SIMPLY CHOSE NOT TO
AWARD IN THAT SPACE SO THE
ENERGY COMMISSION DID REACH OUT
AND SAID. WE'D LIKE YOU TO
RECONSIDER HOW YOUR FUNDING
THESE IN THE FUTURE THERE'S
ANOTHER THREE BILLION A THAT WE
ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE
FOR IN THE FUTURE. AND THE
ENERGY COMMISSION STANDS READY
TO- SUPPORT ANY OF OUR STATE
APPLICANTS TO THAT OPPORTUNITY
WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING SUPPORT
LETTERS WE INTEND TO PROVIDE-
AND- FEDERAL COST SHARE A
POTENTIALLY THROUGH THE CLIMATE
. INNOVATION PROGRAM- SO WE WANT
TO SET ASIDE THIS MATCH FUNDS
FOR OUR- ABILITY TO SUPPORT OUR
STATE- APPLICANTS I WILL SAY
THAT WELL NO PROJECTS IN
CALIFORNIA WERE FUNDED I'M A FEW
CALIFORNIA- ENTITIES. DID
RECEIVE FUNDS FOR PROJECTS
OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA GREG A FEW
QUESTIONS THAT NEED A FOLLOW UP
ON THIS AS WELL THIS ARTICLE IS
GOING TO QUIT BECAUSE WE'RE WE
GRADED SO TYPICALLY IN A GRANT
PROCESS YOU GET GRADED OR USE
YOUR SUPPORT. DID DID WAS THEIR
INFORMATION BACK TO US ON WHY WE
WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL DEAL WE'VE
SAID THAT OUR PROJECT APPLICANTS
WERE VERY STRONG. WHAT THEY SAID
IS THEY SIMPLY MADE A CHOICE NOT
TO FUND THAT PART OF THE
MANUFACTURING PROCESS. THINGS
HELPFUL WHO ARE THE PRIMARY
PEOPLE WORKING ON ON DOING THAT
OUR REGION AND KIND ACCORDING
FOR CALIFORNIA ARE ON BATTERY
SPECIFIC. WILL JUST IN GENERAL
FOR THIS KIND OF PUTS IT THROUGH
THESE LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE
GRANTS I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT
FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY. FOR
BATTERIES I KNOW THAT GOBIZ AND
THE ENERGY COMMISSION WE'RE VERY
MUCH ALIGNED WORKING I KNOW
THERE WAS A BATTERY DAY THAT WAS
DEVELOPED DOWN IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA THERE'S OF THOSE
TYPES OF COORDINATED STATE
EFFORTS. I CAN SAY FOR- SOME OF
OUR GREAT OPPORTUNITIES WERE
COORDINATING WITH THE CPUC WERE
COORDINATING WITH KOBE C. N. R.
A. WE'RE MAKING SURE YOU KNOW
THE EVERYBODY'S COMMUNICATING SO
THAT WE CAN BRING THE BEST
OPPORTUNITIES FORWARD. SAME
THING CAN BE SAID OF LIKE OUR
NAVY OR CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE
PROGRAMS THAT'S GOING TO BE CAL
STAR THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR TEAM
AT THE CC. ARE IN LARGE PART
THAT'S CARP THERE'S A LOT OF
ENTITIES WHO ARE WORKING
TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS. I'M
EXCELLENT THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO
HEAR YOU KNOW I WOULD HAVE HER
LEGS FROM OTHER STATES IS THAT
THEY YOU KNOW WITH THEIR WORKING
WITH THEIR ECONOMICS OF AN
AGENCY THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO.
REALLY CRAFT PLANS ABOUT THIS
ENERGY THEY HAVE AVAILABLE FOR
THESE PLANTS THE WORK FORCE- AND
OF COURSE YOU AND I THINK
CALIFORNIA'S LEADING AMERICA'S
WORKFORCE BUT- THEY'RE ABLE TO.
KIND OF. GIVE THE D. WE SORT OF-
REAL ROAD MAP ST YOUR ROADMAP
WHERE THE STATE'S GOING AND I
WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WERE. ABLE
TO DO THAT AS WELL- AND IT
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WILL HELP
OUR- COMPETITIVENESS AND LOOK
FORWARD TO. FUTURE CONVERSATIONS
AND WORKING WITH YOU. ON THAT
GOING FORWARD. WELL FILE NOT
RESPOND JUST SURE RIGHT- THERE A
COUPLE OF THAT YOU ABOUT THAT
CAN TOUCH ON TO. AND I DO WANT
TO GIVE GREAT CREDIT TO- TO CC
AND THE WORK THAT JENNIFER'S
BEEN DOING ON THIS WORK
ESPECIALLY BUT- THERE HAS BEEN
SIGNIFICANT COORDINATION SO
GOBIZ CC BUT ALSO HIGH SO HAS
BEEN WORKING WITH US AS WELL AS
WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE A
LOT OF WORK FROM DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE- AGAIN MUCH CREDIT GOES
TO GO BUSINESS WHILE ON
ORGANIZING US AROUND THE FEDERAL
FUNDING EFFORTS ACROSS THE
AGENCY'S. AND D. O. F. AS BEEN
HELPING TO SPEARHEAD
COLLABORATION WITH DO WE IN
PARTICULAR ON THE LOAN PROGRAM
OPPORTUNITIES. AND WE'VE HAD
SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE DOE
LOAN PROGRAM AND THEY'RE
PROVIDING PERSONAL ATTENTION TO
CALIFORNIA TO THE AGENCIES BUT
THEN ALSO TO THE UTILITIES. ON
MAKING SURE THAT AND THE
INDEPENDENT TRANSMISSION
DEVELOPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE. THE
OPPORTUNITIES- C. P. C. N. C. C.
AS JENNIFER DOESN'T MISS MARTIN
GARDNER SAID I HAVE BEEN WORKING
VERY CLOSELY WITH GO BEST TO
IDENTIFY FEDERAL FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES. AND ALSO OUTLINED
THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT
AGENCIES ARE TAKING. SO THEY'VE
IDENTIFIED OVER FORTY PROGRAMS.
AND GO BUSINESS TRACKING THE
AGENCIES THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THE
MILESTONES. AND MATCH FUNDING
REQUIREMENTS TO SUPPORT
CALIFORNIA MAKING THE MOST OF
THESE EFFORTS. I'M AMEND YOUR
POINT ABOUT BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION REBATES I THINK
WE GOT THAT AN EARLIER QUESTION.
JUST SOME EXAMPLE OF OUR WORK
HAS BEEN IN OUR CUSTOMER CLEAN
ENERGY FINANCING PROCEEDING. AND
SO THERE- THE PROCEEDING IS
FOCUSING ON DEVELOPING NEW LOW
RISK CUSTOMER FINANCING PROGRAMS
TO HELP CUSTOMERS INVEST. AND
THAT WORK HAD BEEN ONGOING BUT
WE ACTUALLY TOOK A MOMENT TO
PAUSE. AND RE OPEN THE RECORD TO
BUILD IN MORE INFORMATION ON HOW
CUSTOMERS CAN STACK. OF THE
FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
CREATING WITH THE REBATES AND BE
ABLE TO GET BOTH OF THOSE THE
FEDERAL AS WELL AS- A FINANCING
OPPORTUNITY AND MAXIMIZE THAT IN
ORDER TO. INVEST IN DIFFERENT
CUSTOMER PROGRAMS AND BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION SO JUST THANK
YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO SHARE A
LITTLE BIT OF YOUR FEELING.
TRULY BIG YOUR PERSONAL INTEREST
I THE BILL AND STACKING A REBATE
SO. THAT'S GREAT TO LOOK FOR TO-
TO DISCUSSING JUST TO WRAP UP I
GUESS ON THE BAT ON THIS YOU CAN
INFRASTRUCTURE- PLANNING. THE I
GUESS JUST MAYBE LAST QUESTION
ARE. ARE AGENCIES. A TRACKING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT METRICS FOR
A STATE CLEAN ENERGY JOBS AND-
AND- AT. THE END KIND HOW THAT'S
KIND OF PART OF OUR
COMPETITIVENESS FOR THESE GRANTS
. AT THE- FIFTY WILL BE ABLE TO
IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR
WORK- ARE WORK ON TRACKING CAN
BE GOOD IF THE TYPICALLY IS
ASSOCIATED ARE EPIC PROJECTS. SO
VALUE WAITING THE- ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESEARCH AND
THE IMPACTS OF THE RESEARCH IN
THE GROWTH OF THOSE COMPANIES
OVER TIME. SO THOSE THOSE OF THE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES
THAT WERE MONITORING. GREAT YEAH
I GUESS I'M THINKING OF US WERE
GENERALLY ABOUT THE HIGH ROAD
LABOR STANDARDS AND- YOU KNOW
HOW THAT I THINK CAN YOU KNOW
CAN HELP US BE COMPETITIVE.
GOING FORWARD FORCING THESE
GRANTS WERE THINK AGAIN WE'RE
WE'RE WE'RE TRULY IN THE COUNTRY
IN SOME OF THESE AREAS- YEAH
AND- YEAH JUST MAKE SURE THAT'S
PART OF OUR- YOU KNOW PART OF
OUR- OF THE FOOT THAT WERE AT
PUTTING FORWARD- FOR THESE PLANS
THAT WE'RE TRULY TRACKING THOSE
CLEAN ENERGY JOBS- BUT- THAT'S
GREAT. I GUESS LAST BETWEEN
WHICH TYPE OF THE CLEANING OF
ATION PROGRAM AND YOU MENTIONED.
I THINK SHE MENTIONED HOW WE'RE
USING THAT TO LEVERAGE FEDERAL
FUNDING I THINK THERE WERE SOME
CUTS IN THAT IN THAT PROGRAM TO
ANY ANY JUST COMMENTS ON THAT.
ARE JUST CORRECTION NO CUTS THE
DEFERRAL DEFERRAL OKAY THAT CAN
AFFECT US BEEN ABLE TO. BE
BETTER FOR FEDERAL FUNDING NO WE
ALREADY HAVE- SET ASIDE- A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY FOR FEDERAL FUNDING
SUPPORT. FOR THOSE APPLICANTS
ARE INTERESTED IN IT AFTER MATCH
SHARE. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'LL BE
ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATING THE
PROGRAM IS APPROPRIATE THAT FOR
ALL. OKAY GREAT. I'M GOING TO
MOVE ON TO. A DEMAND. I'M JUST
RUNNING WHAT. RETURNS WILL BE
INDIA'S WAY ARE THE KEY LESSON
MINISTRY LEARN FROM USING. THE
ENERGY RELIABILITY FUNDING IN
THE SUMMER OF TWENTY TWO AND
HOUSE ADMINISTRATION PLANNING ON
APPLYING THOSE. LESSONS. FOR
TWENTY TWENTY THREE. GOOD
AFTERNOON AGAIN DENIED CORREO-
I'VE BEEN HELPING TO STAND UP
THE DEMANDS. THE DEMAND
RESPONDED YES YES INDEED BUT
PROGRAMS. SO THE LAUNCH OF DSG
S. WAS PRETTY QUICK LAST YEAR AS
WE WERE BRINGING UP BACK UP
GENERATION AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE
EXTREME HEAT EVENTS- AS WE LOOK
INTO THIS NEXT SUMMER WE'RE
DOING A FEW THINGS ONE WE'RE
TRYING TO AUTOMATE- TO MAKE IT
LESS TECHNICAL WORK SYNTHESIZING
OUR COMMUNICATION. AND AB TWO OH
NINE EXPANDED THIS PROGRAM INTO
P. YOU SEE TERRITORIES WILL BE
LOOKING AT HOW TO BRING ON
CLEANER TECHNOLOGIES AND ALSO
UNLOCKING SOME DEMAND RESPONSE
THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE LAST YEAR
AS WE LOOK AT THE COORDINATION
BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS. OF
EUROPEAN DSDS SO THAT'S
DEFINITELY A- YOU KNOW WE SHOT
WE SAW THAT. SHARP DROP IN
ENERGY USE ON OUR HIGHEST- PEAK
DAY LAST SEPTEMBER AND
UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPORTANCE
OF THAT ARE WORKING TO AND
UNLOCK THAT IT'LL BE A PHASED
APPROACH. AND WE GOT SOME
GUIDELINES LAUNCHED FOR THE
SPRING- THAT WILL BE TESTING OUT
FOR THE SUMMER. EIGHT AND I SURE
SAID BEGINNING- AND I'M GRATEFUL
FOR THE SWIFT RESPONSE FROM THE
GOVERNOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION
IN. COMBATING AND HEADING OFF
BLACKOUTS LAST SUMMER. AND
RECOGNIZING GENERAL WITH ALL
THESE QUESTIONS AT ALL OF THESE
THAT THE ITEMS WERE DISCUSSING
THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING TO GET
OUT VERY QUICKLY WHICH IS A GOOD
THING BUT- YOU KNOW WE'RE TRYING
TO ADDRESS THESE PRESSING ISSUES
AND I KNOW ITS- NOT EASY TO. TO
VOTE TO ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND
GET THEM OUT QUICKLY- YEAH AND-
YOU KNOW CAN BE EXCITED ABOUT.
MUCH OF THE WORK THAT IS
HAPPENING IN A LOT OF THESE
ERRORS INCLUDING THE ROLE OF THE
D. KERR PROGRAM FROM LAST YEAR'S
BUDGET. WHICH IS TO DRIVE A
LITTLE QUICKER DEEPER HERE A YOU
KNOW AT THAT. ENGINE COMMITTEE
HEARING WITH HOUSE RENTALS I
MENTION THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL.
DEMAND RESPONSE FROM NON AYE ARE
YOU PROGRAMS BECAUSE THE CLICK
THROUGH PROCEEDING TO. GRANT
ADDITIONAL DATA TO ENABLE MORE
DEMAND RESPONSE IS TAKING FIVE
YEARS. AND IS STILL ON GOING.
YEAH AND AT THAT TIME- BASE YOU
WERE TOLD THAT WAS GONNA EXTEND
UNTIL SEPTEMBER TWENTY. THREE
WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY FAR FROM THIS
SUMMER'S HEAT WAVES. SO I JUST
KIND OF. WHY IS THE P. C. PER
GETTING THIS DONE AND WHAT CAN
WE DO TO CAN I GET THE STUNT.
YES THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
SENATOR AND WE- WE I RECALL YOUR
QUESTIONS TO PRESIDENT RONALD
AND- WE DO SHARE THE URGENCY AS
WELL- IT'S JUST A- YOU KNOW
INTERNAL- DOES SOMETIMES WORK
JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN AS QUICKLY
AS WE ALL WANTED TO- DEPUTY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TESTS ARE
WILL SHARE MORE DETAILS ABOUT
HOW WE'RE PICKING UP. BACK UP IN
THAT PROCEEDING. BUT WE
ABSOLUTELY WANT TO DEMAND
RESPONSE TO PLAY A VERIFIABLE
REAL ROLE IN. A MEETING
CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY NEEDS
PARTICULARLY IF WE HAVE ANOTHER
SUMMER LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
I'M NOT JUST THROUGH THE SUMMER
BUT ALSO IN OTHER TIMES OF THE
YEAR. SUMMERTIME BEING THE MOST
IMPORTANT. TO ENSURE ADDITIONAL
DETAILS. SO THE CPUC HAS ISSUED
A SERIES OF TRANSFORMATIVE
DECISIONS REALLY OVER THE LAST
TWELVE YEARS THAT HAVE MADE IT A
NATIONAL LEADER. IN BOTH THIRD
PARTY AND UTILITY DEMAND
RESPONSE AND DEMAND FLEXIBILITY.
LEADING TO OVER FIFTEEN HUNDRED
MEGAWATTS OF SUPPLY SIDE DEMAND
RESPONSE ON OUR SYSTEM. SO THESE
EFFORTS INCLUDE AUTHORIZATION OF
OVER FOUR POINT FIVE BILLION
DOLLARS AND A REPAIR FUNDING FOR
THE DEPLOYMENT OF SMART METERS-
BY THE THREE MAJOR I'LL USED TO
ENABLE MORE PARTICIPATION IN ALL
DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEMAND
RESPONSE PROGRAMS. THIS ALSO
INCLUDED THE AUTHORIZATION OF
DEFAULT TIME OF USE RATES FOR
ELIGIBLE CUSTOMERS AND CRITICAL
PEAK PRICING RATES FOR LARGE NON
AND NON RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
THIS ALSO INCLUDED THE
INTEGRATION OF THE EVENT BASED
THIRD PARTY AND I OWE YOU DEMAND
RESPONSE PROGRAMS WITH THE CHI
SO WHICH OPERATES THE WHOLESALE
ENERGY MARKET AS A CONDITION FOR
THE PROGRAM RECEIVING RESOURCE
ADEQUACY CREDIT WHICH WAS A REAL
BREAKTHROUGH. AND A COMMITMENT
TO ENHANCE THESE NATION LEADING
DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS BY
DEVELOPING COMPETITIVE
TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL OPEN MARKET
IN CALIFORNIA WITH A PREFERENCE
FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY THIRD
PARTIES. THROUGH PERFORMANCE
BASED CONTRACTS COMPETITIVELY.
DETERMINE PRICES AND I WANT TO
DRILL INTO THE PROCEEDINGS. SO
THE CPUC IS CURRENTLY CONDUCTING
THREE PROCEEDINGS DIRECTLY
FOCUSED ON DEMAND RESPONSE- THE
DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS AND
BUDGET APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE
PROGRAMS AND NOW I REALLY WANT
TO FOCUS ON THE CLICK THROUGH
PROCEEDING. REALLY HEARD. YOUR
FOCUS AND NOT THAT PROCEEDING
AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO-
REALLOCATE STAFFING WE HAVE A
NEW ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE
WORKING WITH US ON THE
PROCEEDING AND WE'RE STILL ON
TRACK FOR THE TIMELINE THAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW
THAT WE- UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN
AND HAVE MADE SURE THAT THERE IS
THE APPROPRIATE STAFFING THEIR-
GREAT. GREAT I'M JUST MISSION TO
DEVOTE TIME USED TO BE IS. THE
TIME OF USE PRICING IS BASICALLY
ONE CENTER FOR I'M TRYING TO
LOOK AT MY OWN BILL INTO IS IT
REALLY ONLY A KIND OF LIKE A-
ONE CENT DIFFERENCE ESSENTIALLY
. AND THAT TIME USED. M. SO I
CAN GET IN THE BIT MORE DO AND
SOME LIKE SENATORS MIGHT SOME
DETAIL BUT IT REALLY DOES VERY
ACT. THE TO ON THE ZONE THAT
YOU'RE LIVING IN SO IT CAN
DEPEND ON YOU KNOW WHERE WHICH
PARTS OF THE STATE YOUR I. O. U.
AS WELL AS YOUR LOCATION AND
THAT PART OF THE STATE. BUT I
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUR NEW
PROCEEDING ON DEMAND FLEXIBILITY
SO. YES WE HAVE TIME OF USE
RATES WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING
TO SHIFT THE PARADIGM. SO THAT
CUSTOMERS ARE ABLE TO RESPONSIVE
SIGNALS IN ORDER TO. AND THEIR
APPLIANCES ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE
SIGNALS TO SEAMLESSLY. BE ABLE
TO ENHANCE AND SUPPORT THE GRID.
WITHOUT ANY KIND OF SACRIFICE
FROM THAT CUSTOMER- AND SO YES
TIME OF USE RATES HAVE BEEN
REALLY IMPORTANT AND KICKING OFF
THAT WORK. BUT WE'RE REALLY
SHIFTING NOW TO DEMAND
FLEXIBILITY. AND THE TYPE OF
ABILITY FOR DYNAMIC PRICING TO
BE ABLE TO- GET A KIND OF A NEW.
TYPE OF DEMAND RESPONSE REALLY.
YEAH I THINK THE MENFOLK'S LETS
THE SENSOR BREAKS OUT AND JUST
AS- LITTLE CONCERN OF THAT THE-
TIME OF USE RATES. YOU KNOW
WE'RE GONNA REALLY. TRY TO DRIVE
BEHAVIOR THAT PROBABLY SHOULD
BE- CONFIGURATOR DISCREPANCY OR
GREATER DIFFERENCE IN RATES YOU
HAVE FOUGHT WELL I JUST WANNA
SAY IS SOMEBODY WHO USES. WE IN
AGRICULTURE WE HAVE TIME VIEWS
AND IT'S NOT IT'S MORE THAN ONE
CENT. IT'S A LOT MORE THAN ONCE
AND IF YOU HEAR FROM YOUR
PRODUCERS THAT. ARE COMMERCIAL
PRODUCERS SUCH AS CONCRETE
PLANTS AND- THE LIKES- IT'S A
SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS AND THEY ARE
THEY BUY INTO THAT AND HAPPY TO
ADOPT. MANY OF THEM. IN PREVIOUS
YEARS THEY WOULD MAYBE GET.
ASKED TO CURTAIL. A FEW HOURS.
TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR LAST
YEAR IT WAS TWENTY DAYS. EVERY
DAY SO THEIR COMPANIES REALLY
GOT HAMMERED. AND AS A FARMER. I
MEAN YOU CAN- TELL FOR A FEW
HOURS A DAY BUT YOU HAVE TO
WATER YOUR CROPS AT SOME POINT
AND THEN YOU GET STOCK- BECAUSE
YOU HAVE TO WATER YOUR PRODUCT.
WORK AND SO I HEARD A LOT FROM.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR
TOWN OR THE OR THEIR INDUSTRIAL
USERS WE COLUMN. AND THERE IS A
SIGNIFICANT. SAVINGS BUT WITH
THAT COMES A PRICE OF. ARE YOU
GONNA BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE
PRODUCT THAT YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE
SO- IT'S CHANGED A LOT BE. OF
THAT WE WERE AWESOME TO DIVERT.
YEAR MAY DAYS IN A ROW. AND THAT
AND I'VE HEARD FROM THEM THAT
THEY THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO GO
DOWN THAT PATH THEY HAVE TO
PRODUCE THEIR PRODUCTS AT SOME
POINT. Q. THANKS I SHOULD FOLLOW
UP ON ON THAT AS WELL- BUT- GOOD
APPRECIATE THAT IS THAT A SEGWAY
BUT- WE SHOULD THE COMMENTS ON
ON DEMAND FLEXIBILITY- WE JUST
CONFIRM WE ARE PAYING TWO CENTS
PER KILOWATT FOR THE MERGER C.
LOAD REDUCTION. RESPONSE PROGRAM
IS THAT CORRECT. YES THE
MERCHANTS U. S. AS HER- AND
THEN. FOR THAT PROGRAM- IT'S
CONTINUING IN TWENTY TWENTY
THREE. OR MEASURES TO BEEF UP
THE SHIRT OKAY- AND SO THROUGH
MINISTERIAL PROCESS WE ARE
ADVICE LETTER PROCESS WE ARE
WORKING ON. MAKING SOME SMALL
CHANGES AND ENHANCEMENTS THAT
CAN BE DEPLOYED BY THE SUMMER OF
THE SUMMERS YOU KNOW AROUND THE
CORNER- IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE
THAT- OF THE THIRD PARTIES AS
WELL AS THE I. O. U.'S. ARE ABLE
TO REALLY ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE
THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE FROM LAST
SUMMER AND REALLY GROW IT FOR
THE SUMMER. AND THEN IN ADDITION
TO THAT AS MISS CARILLO ALREADY-
OUTLINED- WE'RE WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE C. C. TO SEE
HOW- CERTAIN CUSTOMERS MIGHT.
PERFORM BETTER THROUGH THAT TO
ME AT THE DSDS PROGRAM- AND
REALLY BEING ABLE TO. MAKE USE
OF THOSE FUNDS AS WELL VERSES
REPAIR FUNDS. GREAT OKAY IS
WRAPPED UP ON THIS IN AGAIN I
JUST THEY CONTINUED TO BE WE
MAKE SURE WE PRIORITIZE GRADE
INTEGRATED PROGRAMS IN THIS POST
EMERGENCY. PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE
SUPPORT AND IT CAME THROUGH BIG
TIME. LAST SUMMER BUT OVER TIME
WE WERE NOT PRIORITIZE HIS GRID
INTEGRATED PROGRAMS. YEAH AND-
YOU KNOW JUST KIND OF CONTINUE
BE CONCERNED THAT THIRD PARTY
AGGREGATORS. ARE BEING
DISADVANTAGED AND- IN. THE END
YOU KNOW CAN WANTS TO MAKE SURE
PRIORITIZE MOST COST EFFECTIVE
PROGRAMS IN THAT. WE HOPE WE
OPEN DATA TO THIRD PARTY
AGGREGATORS- AS PART OF THIS-
AND THEN MAKE SURE WE'RE USING
METRICS I GUESS THAT'S MY LAST
QUESTIONS OF WHAT METRICS ARE WE
USING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING
THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE
PROGRAMS. SO ACTUALLY ALL OF THE
DEMAND OF NOT DEALER P. ISN'T
PART OF THIS BUT ALL OF OUR
DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS-
UTILITY AS WELL AS THIRD PARTY.
ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO BE COST
EFFECTIVE AND SO. THERE ARE.
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
COORDINATE WITH CC IS- YOU KNOW
WHAT IF THERE ARE SOME DEMAND
RESPONSE PROGRAMS ARE NOT COST
EFFECTIVE BUT WE WANT TO TRY AND
FIGURE OUT HOW TO WE-
COMMERCIALISE AND SCALE THEM IN
ORDER FOR THEM TO START BEING
COST EFFECTIVE AND UNLOCKING
WHERE DEMAND RESPONSE AND SO.
WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY
AND IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS BUT FOR
RATEPAYER FUNDED PROGRAMS AND
THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. IN
THE MARKET. THEY HAVE TO BE COST
EFFECTIVE IN ORDER TO STAY IN
THE PROGRAM AND JUST LIKE YOU
SAID. IN IF I MAY ADD JUST A
FOLLOW UP ON THAT I AM CONCEPT
OF THE ARGUES AND WATER USED IN
LOAD SHIFTING- I KNOW THERE'S A
DISCUSSION OF THE DEBATE FUNDS
BUT THOSE FUNDS WILL BE USED TO
TEST SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS
ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT CLEAN
TECHNOLOGIES AND HELP. AUTOMATE
SO. WHEN WE DO HAVE- ARGUES OR
PERHAPS- IRRIGATION DISTRICTS
AND SO SOMEONE DRIVING AROUND IN
A TRUCK TURNING OFF PUMPS- WE
CAN ADD SOME SMART TECHNOLOGY
AND REALLY DO THAT LOAD SHIFTING
AND DEMAND RESPONSE
TECHNOLOGIES. I THINK DAVID HAS
SOME OTHER THINGS TO SHARE ABOUT
DEMAND RESPONSE OF YOURS IF WE
IF. YOU'D ALLOW HORROR WOULD
LIKE WHAT JUSTICE IS A REMINDER
SO- AS- SB EIGHT FORTY SIX. CC
HAS A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE A-
REPORT TO YOU BY JUNE ON. D. R.
HELLO CHIEF GOALS. AND
RECOMMENDATIONS AND SO TO- MIST-
DEFIES COMMENTED WE ARE WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CPC IN
CALAIS SO. TO CONDUCT THAT
ANALYSIS AND PROVIDE THAT.
RECOMMENDATION FOR OF A- GOAL
AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE
PROGRAMS BY JUNE FIRST. GREAT
COULD I JUST FELT SO WHEN THEY
DID THE- THE BONDS ORIGINAL
BONDS FOR THE- INDUSTRIAL THEY
THEY GOT PAID OFF AND THEN THEY
RE OUT. AUTHORIZES BONDS FOR
DIABLO. AS THAT IS A LOOK AT
THAT IN THAT. IN THAT SCENARIO-
NEW **** ARE SINNERS NOT LOOKING
AT THE BONDS FOR DIABLO. WE ARE
ARE MAYBE ARE YOU I'M TALKING
ABOUT. ORIGINALLY DURING THE-
THE DAVIS ADMINISTRATION THERE
WAS- THE CALIFORNIA WAS BUYING
POWER AND THERE WAS A- AMOUNT
THAT HAD TO BE PAID BACK AND THE
INDUSTRIAL USERS. WERE CHARGED A
HIGHER AMOUNT AND THEN WHEN WE
DID. WE EXTENDED THAT UNDER THE
DIABLO THE BILL LEGISLATION AND
SO THOSE INDUSTRIAL USERS ARE
NOW STILL ON THE HOOK TO PAY
THAT EXTRA AMOUNT IS THAT BEING
ANALYZED. IT IN THE- DIVERSION
OF THEIR LOAD SHIFTING. I SHOULD
SAY. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING
OVERALL GOAL FOR THE STATE WITH
ANALYSIS I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK
AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT THE TALK
TO THE TEAM ABOUT WHERE THAT'S
INCORPORATING ANY OF THAT-
DIABLO CONSIDERATIONS. I'VE I
WAS THINKING MAYBE YOU WERE
REFERRING TO THE OTHER REPORT
THAT IS DUE TO LEGISLATURE THIS
YEAR ON COST COMPARISON OF
DIABLO CANYON VERSUS ALTERNATIVE
RESOURCE I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
THAT TOO SO WE'LL BE WE'LL BE
GENERATING THAT TO YOU AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT GOOD YOU KNOW WE
DIDN'T DRIVE INTO THE COMMERCIAL
SIDE OF THIS IS WELL AND THIS IS
THE ERROR I DON'T ACTUALLY DON'T
KNOW NEARLY AS WELL I DID GET
SOME CONCERNS THAT. YOU'RE
PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A- THE ENERGY
DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAM TO
DEMAND BIDDING PROGRAM AND- JUST
WANNA MAKE SURE WE FULL TO-
PARTICIPATION WITH THE EMERGENCE
OF LIABILITIES MAN RESPONSE THE
BETH. PROGRAM I'M- A AND- ANY
QUICK COMMENTS ON THAT YOU CAN
ON YOUR HEAD. SO INDUSTRIAL
CUSTOMERS ARE STILL ABLE TO DO
WILL PARTICIPATE IN DEMAND
RESPONSE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE
COMBINATION OF THE BIT PROGRAM.
AND THE CAPACITY BUILDING
PROGRAM BOTH OF WHICH ARE
INTEGRATED INTO THE CASE SO
MARKET AND THE CPC FOUND THAT
THE DEMAND BIDDING PROGRAM-
BESIDES NOT BEING ABLE TO
INTEGRATE WITH THE CASE OF
PROGRAM IT HAD EXPOSED REPAIRS.
TO MORE COST WITHOUT A
COMMENSURATE RELIABILITY
BENEFITS SO. THAT WAS THE OLD
WAY BUT WITH THE CURRENT FORMAT
THEY ARE STILL ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE IN BOTH- BUT UNDER
THE- THESE TWO NEW PROGRAM SO
CAPACITY BUILDING PROGRAMME AND
BIT. OKAY RIGHT WILL MOVE ON
AGAIN RESTAURANTS I'D SPEND A
LOT OF TIME WITH US I KNOW HOW
IMPORTANT IS TO GRID'S
RELIABILITY AND APPRECIATE ALL
YOUR EFFORTS HERE. I'M GOOD TWO
OTHER ITEMS HERE THE LAST TIME
WE SPOKE- I'M- GOING TO DO D. W.
R. FOR A MOMENT- I DOUBTS WHAT
DID WE ARE PROCURING ZERO
EMISSION. RESOURCE IS. FOR FROM
THIS LIFE RESERVE AND I JUST TO
FOLLOW UP ON THAT A TWO DAY-
THAT THE PROPERTY HERE GREAT. IS
IT CORRECT TO D. W. R. FINANCE
INSULATION HUNDRED TWENTY
MEGAWATTS OF GAS FIRED
GENERATION A TO EXISTING
GENERATION SITES IS THAT
SEKARANG. THAT'S CORRECT UGH
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR OF MY NAME
IS STILL FEET HOME DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE WHITE WATER AND
ENERGY FOR D. W. R. AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT
MONEY TAKE YOUR LAST QUESTION
FIRST- SO THE TO RESOURCES I
WANT TO BE CLEAR. ON THOSE TWO
RESOURCES AGAIN ONE- IN P.
JEANNIE TERRITORY YUBA CITY THE
OTHER ONE IN ROSEVILLE THOSE ARE
ACTUALLY DEPLOYED FROM SUMMER
TWENTY TWENTY ONE- AT OF-
TRIGGERED BY THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION.
IT IS NOW WITHIN- THE PURVIEW OF
MY OFFICE AND SO WE CONSIDER THE
ASSETS- IN TOTALITY BUT I JUST
WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WASN'T
THAT WAS THERE PRIOR TO. THE
ACTUAL RESERVE BEING
ESTABLISHED. OKAY GREAT BUT THE
REPORT DOES SHOW THAT. WE
COMMITTED A HUNDRED SIXTY SIX
POINT SEVEN MILLION THROUGH THE
END OF TWENTY. TWO AND WILL DO
TO OUR CONTINUE KERR COSTS THESE
PROJECTS THROUGH. A TWENTY THREE
WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF
TWENTY THREE. A GREAT QUESTION
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE- A
COMMITTED APPROXIMATELY- TWO
HUNDRED ELEVEN MILLION IN TOTAL
FOR THOSE PROJECTS. UGH THE
EXPENDITURES THAT HAVE BEEN
STARTED THE THIS ONCE I HAVE
BEEN EXPENDED THUS FAR. IT WAS
TO SECURE THOSE RESORTS FROM
TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND A CURRENT
CONTRACT WITH THEM ENDS THIS
DECEMBER THIRTY FIRST TWENTY
THREE. AND WE ARE LOOKING TO
EXTEND THOSE FURTHER- THE
RESERVE ITSELF WERE A- ABLE TO
HAVE FUNDS ENCUMBERED THROUGH
TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN- AND THEN
HAVING EVERYTHING CLOSED OUT BY
TWENTY THIRTY SO WE ARE HOPING.
TO EXTEND THE USE OF THOSE
RESOURCES AS THEY WERE USED FOR
SURE IN TWENTY ONE AS WELL AS IN
TWENTY TWENTY TWO DURING THE
EXTREME HEAT EVENT. OKAY
EXISTENCE THE QUESTIONS I SUBMIT
AFTER LAST HEARING TO DO WE ARE
INDICATED THAT THESE UNITS
OPERATE AVERAGE OF FIVE TO SEVEN
HOURS. A PER MONTH ON AND ASK
YOU TO READ WRITE BREAKDOWN OF
THOSE COSTS IN A DOLLARS PER
MEGAWATT HOUR BASIS. THE DATA I
GOT BACK FROM DELIVER SHOWS THE
AVERAGE PRICE ELECTRICITY THE
UNITS WAS ABOUT. ALMOST FOURTEEN
THOUSAND PER MEGAWATT HOUR. AND
. THAT YOU KNOW SO- I GUESS. YOU
KNOW HOW TO THAT COMPARE TO THE
MARKET FOR LIKE DURING. PEAK
PERIOD. OF THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION I DON'T HAVE A
COMPARISON OF THE ACTUAL MARKET
PRICE DURING PEAK PERIODS- BUT
WERE- HAPPY TO QUEUE. TRY TO
UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION A
LITTLE BIT BETTER IS IT IN TERMS
OF- THE COST AND USAGE OF THE
UNITS THAT YOU'RE SEEKING. YEAH
I MEAN THAT'S THE FINAL QUESTION
REYES OR HOW MUCH. THE PER
MEGAWATT HOUR WE'RE PAYING AND
HOW THAT COMPARES. OKAY WE CAN
GO BACK AND- PROVIDE THAT
ANALYSIS AND- PROVIDE THAT TO
YOUR OFFICE. OKAY THANK YOU
BECAUSE THAT WAS CAN BASIS DATA
WE'VE GOT FOR DVR. SO THEY JUST
HAVE A DISCARDED SURE SURE I ASK
MY STAFF TO PERFORM SOME.
CALCULATIONS OF THE COST OF THE
CAPACITY PROVIDED BY THESE UNITS
AND- EVEN ASSUMING A GENEROUS
ESTIMATE OF ENERGY COSTS THESE
PROJECTS THE COST THE CAPACITIES
AROUND FOURTEEN. HUNDRED DOLLARS
PER INSTALLED KILOWATT AND WAS
WE CALCULATOR ABOUT THE SAME AS
THE COST OF PURCHASING A NEW.
FOUR HOUR BATTERY STORAGE
PROJECT. I'M SO I GUESS
FUNDAMENTALES USES THE GAS UNITS
BURN FUEL AND ONLY OPERATE A FEW
HOURS PER MONTH- KIND OF WONDER
WHY DIDN'T YOU DO GIVE YOUR
CHOOSE TO SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT.
OF MONEY TO MAKE AN OUTRIGHT
PURCHASE OF EQUIVALENT BATTERY.
STORAGE THEY'LL BE ABLE OPERATE.
EVERYDAY AT VERY LOW ADDITIONAL
COST WITHOUT PRODUCING EMISSIONS
ARE REQUIRING FUEL. THANK YOU
FOR THAT QUESTION I THINK AT THE
TIME- THE REQUIREMENT WAS TO TRY
TO GET RESOURCES ONTO THE GRID
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE- AND SO WE
WERE ABLE TO SECURE THOSE
RESOURCES. AND HAVE THEM
INSTALLED AND DEPLOYING TO THE
GRID- WITHIN ONLY A FEW MONTHS
TIME- UNFORTUNATELY I THINK IN
UNDERSTANDING- THE POINT TIME
BACK IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THERE
IS ALREADY. A FAIR COMPETITION
FOR CLEANER RESOURCES SUCH AS
BATTERIES AS WELL AS SUPPLY
CHAIN ISSUES- THAT WAS LIMITING
THE ACTUAL- CAPABILITY TO SECURE
THOSE ASSETS. OF FOR THE MORE IN
ORDER FOR THOSE ASSETS TO BE
DEPLOYED AND ABLE TO DELIVER
ENERGY. ONLY WOULD ALSO PROBABLY
HAVE TO HAVE GONE THROUGH- A
MORE ELABORATE INTERCONNECTION
PROCESS SO WE WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE THOSE
ASSETS- IN RESPONSE TO THE
GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY
PROCLAMATION. AND BE ONLINE- FOR
A USAGE OF. THAT YEAR AND THEN
ALSO THE FOLLOWING YEARS- IN.
TWENTY TWO WE HAD THE LARGER
HEATWAVE EVENT. READING
UNDERSTAND ONE OF BE WITH THE
GROUP APPOINTED AGAIN SHRINK FOR
THIS BUT HUNDRED X. GREATER YOU
KNOW PER HOUR- ARMS ARE TEN BY
TEN X. PROBABLY PER HOUR AND-
AND YOU KNOW THAT'S REALLY THE
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM- I GUESS ON
THAT JUST LAST QUESTION ON THE-
SUPPLY CHAIN WE WOULD BE DOING
TO. TO LEAVE IT ANY POTENTIAL
SUPPLY CHAIN- ISSUES KENNETH
GOING FORWARD IN THE NEXT TWO
YEARS TO MAKE SURE ON THE SAME
POSITION. EXCELLENT QUESTION SO
WE'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF DUE
DILIGENCE AND TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY THE ASSETS
THAT WERE TRYING TO SECURE IN
THE TECHNOLOGIES. THE WORKING
VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR STATE
PARTNERS SO TO THE EXTENT THAT
WE ARE ABLE TO DO THOSE- ISSUE.
DUE DILIGENCE POINTS UP FRONT
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE
REASONABLE SIZE THAT THERE'S A
ABILITY TO INTERCONNECT- THAT
THE RESOURCE AND ASSETS ARE
ACCEPTABLE TO FOR EXAMPLE TO THE
LOCAL COMMUNITY. ALL OF THOSE
THINGS HELP TO KIND OF SMOOTH
THE PATHWAY FROM- AND- FROM
ANALYSIS INTO FRUITION. WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO SICK OF HAVE A LOT
OF SUCCESS AND GETTING THOSE
ASSETS DEPLOYED IN VERY VERY
SHORT MANNER- AS- WE'RE HOPING
FOR AGAIN THIS SUMMER. WITH THE
ADDITIONAL HUNDRED FORTY THREE
MEGAWATTS THAT WE'VE SECURED
WHICH ARE AGAIN OF ULTRA LOW
EMISSION RESOURCES. SO I THINK A
LOT OF THAT UP FRONT WORK
THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT
KIND OF THE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN
IMPACTS. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT
WE CAN HAVE EVERYTHING SET UP IN
ADVANCE. AND MAKE SURE THAT
WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE
THAT DECREASES THE AMOUNT OF
TIME OF WERE ABLE TO SPEND AND
THEN OBVIOUSLY THE COST.
INCURRED TO BRING THOSE- TO
FRUITION. BUT YOU ARE STILL
EXPERIENCING THE CONTRACTS FOR
SOME AS EXISTING GAS. AT THAT IS
CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO STILL
HAVE CAPACITY AND ASSETS ON
HAND. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT
THOSE RESOURCES ARE THERE AND
THEY'RE RUNNING AND THE
RELIABLE- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY
AVAILABLE. AS WE GO THROUGH OUR
PORTFOLIO WE WANT TO ALSO THINK
ABOUT TRANSITIONING OUTSIDE OF
SORT OF THE EMERGENCY REACTIVE
PHASE. OF THE RESERVE- AGAIN IN
RESPONSE TO THE EMERGENCY
PROCLAMATION A RESPONSE TO
LEGISLATION LAST YEAR THOSE ARE
ALL VERY VERY QUICK TURNAROUND
PROJECTS. BUT AS THE OF RESERVE
MATURES. A WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
LOOK AT MORE OPPORTUNITIES SO
FOR EXAMPLE. WE DO HAVE
AUTHORIZATION UP THROUGH JULY
THIRTY FIRST TWENTY TWENTY THREE
TO CONTINUE WITH THE DIESEL
FIRED GENERATORS WE'VE MADE THE
DECISION NOT TO PURSUE ANY OF
THOSE ANYMORE. SO WE DO WANT TO
MOVE THE RESERVE TO CLEANER
ASSETS- I DO A HEAR YOUR
FRUSTRATION THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE
TO MOVE COMPLETELY OFF OF
FOSSIL. BUT AGAIN THE STEP THAT
WE'RE TAKING IS TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVEN IF WERE IN FALL SO
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT BETTER-
TECHNOLOGIES. ON THAT OUR AGAIN
ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITIES
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLACED
IN. BUT ALSO WOULD HAVE THE
RELIABILITY ASPECTS- AND
CHARACTERISTICS THAT'S REQUIRED.
TO RESPOND DURING IN EXTREME
EVENTS SO VERY. RAPID RESPONSE
WITHIN JUST A FEW MINUTES THEY
CAN TURN ON- AND OBVIOUSLY
PROVIDE ELECTRICITY DURING THAT
CREEK OF CRITICAL PEAK PERIOD
BETWEEN FORTY NINE- ESPECIALLY
IN SUMMERTIME WHEN THE GRID
NEEDS THAT. OKAY RIGHT WING ON
BUT I THINK ANY AND THE DIAZ
PROGRAM AROUND TWO THOUSAND PER
MEGAWATT RATE I THINK IT'S ALSO
BY COMPARISON BUT- WE WILL MOVE
ON BUT AGAIN. IT TO YOU YEAH YOU
CAN HEAR THE CONCERN THAT- BUT
YOU KNOW EXPRESSED HERE TODAY
SIR APPRECIATE RENDERING THESE
QUESTIONS- I GUESS THAT LAST
QUESTION ON THESE LINES- FORD C.
C. INTO W. R. AS THE MAYOR SAID
THE BILL PASSED LAST YEAR AB.
TWELVE SEVENTY NINE ESTABLISHED
85% FOR DRUG EMISSIONS
REDUCTIONS IN SETTING OUR- I TO
FORTY FIVE TARGETS A FIFTEEN
PERCENT. FOR CARBON REMOVAL AND
THAT'LL BE ABOUT ESTIMATE THAT'S
ABOUT SIXTY FIVE MILLION METRIC
TONS OF CARBON WE HAVE TO REMOVE
PER YEAR BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE.
I'M IN YOU KNOW WE CURRENTLY.
HAVE ARE THE PRIORITY CAPACITY
IN THAT AREA I'M JUST WONDERING-
ANY AGE IS WORKING ON A ROADMAP
AROUND CARBON WITH US SO THAT
WAS A BIT OF A REDUCTION. IN CAR
IN FUNDING FOR COVER MOVE ON THE
BUDGET ON WE WORKING ON A
ROADMAP BROWN CARBON REMOVAL.
THE AMERICAN FROM INTERTEK
MISSION SO- WE'RE NOT WORKING ON
A ROADMAP PER SE WE ARE WORKING
VERY CLOSELY WITH CARP THAT HAS
RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER TWELVE
SEVENTY NINE AND- SB NINE OH
FIVE. TO FOCUS ON- CARBON
CAPTURE STORAGE IS WORKING
CLOSELY WITH THEM AND THEN- IN
LINE WITH THE COMMUNICATION
PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT
OPPORTUNITIES TO- OF FUND
PROJECTS THAT CAN HELP.
DEMONSTRATE AND TEST
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL THAT WILL
BE ABLE TO UTILIZE FOR CARBON
CAPTURE. HIS ANY CARBON WILL
BEEN PURCHASED UNDER L. CFS FAR.
YOU KNOW I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT
OKAY. I'M OKAY YEAH AGAIN I
THINK THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN
MILLION TONS PER YEAR BY TWENTY
THIRTY CALLED FOR THE SCOPING
PLANTS SO. THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF
WORK TO DO. TO GET THERE IN THE
FOR TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU ON THAT. YES NO
QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES THANK YOU
FOR YOUR DOES ON THOSE WILL MOVE
OVER TO. I WILL WELL I GUESS SO
HOLD IS. IS- RECOMMEND BY THE
STAFF THERE SO WILL WILL- GO
FROM EXCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION
AND MOVE ON TO THE EXTENT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR. PARTICIPATING
ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'RE GONNA
MOVE ON TO ISSUE TWENTY THREE.
WHICH IS- IMPLEMENTATION
REDUCTION OF THIS HAVE PACKAGE.
THE END UP SIMPLY HERE WILL HAVE
DIFFERENT FINANCE CC AND CARBON-
PRESENTING THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL.
WHEN YOU GO IN CERTAIN READY
OKAY. AGAIN GOOD MORNING MISTER
CHAIR AND MEMBERS CHRISTIAN
CULTURE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE. HAPPY TO SPEAK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THIS HAVE
IMPLEMENTATION PACKAGE OVER THE
LAST COUPLE YEARS THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO
MAKE THESE HISTORIC INVESTMENTS
IN THE EXPANSION ROLLOUT OF- IS
YOUR MISSION VEHICLE. VEHICLES
EXCUSING AND THESE EFFORTS
CONTINUE TO BE A TOP PRIORITY
FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AS SUCH
WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO
PROTECTING THESE INVESTMENTS IN
MAINTAINING THE STATE'S STEADY
PROGRESS IN MAKING STRIDES
REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF
GREENHOUSE GASES EMITTED FROM
THE STATE'S TRANSPORTATION
SECTOR. WHICH AMOUNTS FOR
APPROXIMATELY 50% OF ALL
GREENHOUSE GASES RELEASED FROM
STATE. WITH THAT BEING SAID THE
ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING A
METHODICAL AND BALANCED APPROACH
AND HOW WE ARE PROTECTING THESE
INVESTMENTS WHILE ALSO SOLVING
FOR LOWER PROJECTED GENERAL FUND
REVENUES. OVERALL THE
ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING TO
MAINTAIN ALMOST 90% OF THE
ORIGINAL INVESTMENTS. BUT BEFORE
I JUMP INTO THE ADMINISTRATION'S
APPROACH TO THE GENERAL FUND
REDUCTIONS I'D LIKE TO FIRST
PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF
WHERE THE- AIR RESOURCES BOARD
AND ENERGY COMMISSION. ARE IN
IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE TWENTY
TWENTY ONE AND TWENTY TWENTY TWO
APPROPRIATIONS. IT LOOKING AT
FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE TWENTY
TWO KARPUS ENCUMBERED OVER 90%
OF THE ONE POINT SEVEN BILLION
DOLLARS INCLUDED IN THAT
PACKAGE. AND I SPENT ALMOST A
QUARTER OF THOSE FUNDS THROUGH
THE END OF LAST YEAR YOUR
INVESTMENTS IN PROGRAMS LIKE THE
CLEAN VEHICLE REBATE PROJECT.
CLEAN CARS FOR ALL THE HYBRID
AND ZERO EMISSION TRUCK AND BUS
VOUCHER PROGRAM AS WELL. C. HAS
ENCUMBERED 90% OF THE SEVEN
HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE MILLION IN
TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO FUNDING
AND ABOUT A HUNDRED SEVENTEEN
MILLION FOR TWENTY TO TWENTY
THREE FUNDING FROM THE TWENTY
TWENTY WHEN THE PACKAGE. THIS
INCLUDES. ADDING FUNDING TO
BLOCK BY BLOCK GRANTS SIX OH
RESERVE INFRASTRUCTURE
DEPLOYMENT FOR PASSENGER
VEHICLES TRUCKS AND BUSES. AND
TARGET INVESTMENTS WERE THE
PRIVATE MARKET MAY NOT OTHERWISE
ACT INCLUDING REAL COMMUNITIES
AND APARTMENTS. FOR FISCAL YEAR
TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE THE
FINAL BUDGET BILL SIGNED INTO
LAW SEPTEMBER TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
AND CARDS BOARD APPROVED ITS
FUNDING PLAN FOR THOSE THAT
PACKAGE INVESTMENTS IN NOVEMBER
TWENTY TWENTY TWO. DEDICATING
THE FULL TWO POINT FOUR BILLION
TO PROJECTS. AND WILL BEGIN
COVERING THOSE FUNDS THIS
QUARTER. FOR THE I. TWENTY
TWENTY TO THE PACKAGE A TOTAL OF
EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY FOUR
MILLION WAS APPROPRIATE TO C. C.
TO SUPPORT THEIR VEHICLE
INFRASTRUCTURE. MEDIUM HEAVY
DUTY AND OFF ROAD SEVEN FOR
STRUCTURE AND EMERGING
OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT
ELECTRIC AND HYDROGEN FUEL CELL
VEHICLES. AND CC IS ALSO
INTENDING TO BEGIN COVERING
FUNDS THIS QUARTER. NOW I'D LIKE
TO PAY WITH THE HOW THE
ADMINISTRATION APPROACH THE
GENERAL FUND REDUCTIONS AND
FRIENDSHIPS. THE BUDGET
MAINTAINS EIGHT POINT NINE
BILLION OF THE TEN BILLION
INCLUDED IN THE MULTI YOUR
SPENDING PLAN FOR THE ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLE A PACKAGE. THAT
WAS ORIGINALLY AGREED UPON WITH
THE LEGISLATURE IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE AND TWENTY TWENTY TWO. THE
OVERALL GENERAL FUND REDUCTION
FOR THE SEVEN VESTMENTS IS
APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT FIVE
BILLION DOLLARS ACROSS MULTIPLE
YEARS. BEGINNING IN. TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR THREE TWENTY
FIVE TWENTY SIX. HOWEVER THE
ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING THE
SHIP ONE POINT FOUR BILLION
DOLLARS OF THE TWO POINT FIVE
BILLION REDUCTION. TO BE FUNDED
BY THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
FUND RESULTING IN A NET
REDUCTION OF ONE POINT ONE
BILLION DOLLARS. THE
ADMINISTRATION'S METHODOLOGY FOR
THOSE THAT FUNCHESS AND
REDUCTIONS INCLUDED A
PRIORITIZATION OF CRITICAL
PROGRAMS. FOCUS ON EQUITY AND
CONSIDERATION OF WHERE FEDERAL
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AS A RESULT
OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT
AND JOBS ACT OR I. I. J. A- END
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT. THE
IRISH. THE BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES
THE CONTROL SECTION THAT
PROVIDES A MECHANISM TO ALLOCATE
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCRETIONARY CAP
AND TRADE AUCTION PROCEEDS.
TOWARDS THAT PROGRAMS THAT
RECEIVE GENERAL FUND REDUCTIONS
AND I'M NOT OTHERWISE ALREADY
FULLY BEEN OFFSET BY G. G. R. F.
SPECIFICALLY THE CONTROL SECTION
AUTHORIZES THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AFTER THE FOURTH CAP AND
TRADE AUCTION IN THE TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR FISCAL YEAR.
IF THE G. G. R. F. REVENUES ARE
GREATER THAN PROJECTED IN THE
TWENTY THREE BUDGET ACT. TO
ALLOCATE THE REMAINING FUNDS TO
PROGRAMS WHICH INCLUDE FUELING
INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS TRANSIT
BUSES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SCHOOL
BUSES AND INFRASTRUCTURE FORCING
COMMUNITY BASED PLANS. PROJECTS
AND SUPPORT AND SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITY STRATEGIES. AS WELL AS
EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES IN
CHARTER BOATS COMPLAINTS. ONE
IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT THERE IS
SIGNIFICANT NEW FEDERAL FUNDING
THAT THE ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES
WOULD HELP OFFSET THESE
REDUCTIONS. STEMMING FROM THE IG
IN THE IRA. MANY OF THE SAME
STAKEHOLDERS THAT WOULD BENEFIT
FROM THE STATE PROGRAMS WITH
THEORETICALLY BE ABLE TO APPLY
TO THE SAME FEDERAL PROGRAMS. IN
TOTAL THROUGH THE AYE AYE G. AN
IRA THE BIDEN AND HARRIS
MINISTRATION HAS MADE AVAILABLE
NATIONALLY APPROXIMATELY TWENTY
EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS. FOR
DIRECT ZAB RELATED PROGRAMS. THE
ADMINISTRATION'S THE GENERAL
STRATEGY ON THE FEDERAL DEBT
FUNDING IS TO LEVERAGE FORMULA
FUNDING WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
DIRECTLY APPLY OR SUPPORT
PARTNERS APPLYING FOR
COMPETITIVE FUNDS CREE
OPPORTUNITIES TO USE SMART
FINANCE TO STRETCH PUBLIC
COMPETITIVE FUNDS. CREATE
OPPORTUNITIES TO SMART FINANCE
EXCUSE ME. WE KNOW THAT THERE
HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
INTEREST IN THE COMPETITIVE
SOLICITATIONS AND THERE IS NO
ASSURANCE THAT CALIFORNIA WILL
GET THOSE FUNDS. THAT BEING SAID
CALIFORNIA IS A LEADER IN
DESERVE SPACE AND THE
ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES THAT THE
STATE WILL BE VERY COMPETITIVE
FOR THOSE FUNDS. GIVEN THAT MOST
FEDERAL PROGRAM BENEFITS RELATED
TO THAT'S COME IN THE FORM OF
NON REFUNDABLE TAX CREDIT. THE
ADMINISTRATION IS MAINTAINING
ALL FUNDING RELATED TO EQUITY
PROGRAMS SUCH AS C. C. CONCOURSE
ROLL AN ANKLE AT HOME CHARGING.
VIA FUND SHIFT THE CAP AND TRADE
. ADDITIONALLY GIVEN THE ROLE OF
DRAYAGE TRUCKS AND THEIR IMPACT
ALONE CAN COMMUNITIES AROUND
PORTS IN MAJOR RAIL CORRIDORS
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
MAINTAINED A LARGE MAJORITY OF
INVESTMENTS. MADE IN DRAYAGE
TRUCKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. TO
CONCLUDE I WOULD LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT DESPITE THESE
REDUCTIONS. ARE THE CALIFORNIA
AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND THE
ENERGY COMMISSION ANTICIPATE
DEPLOYING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER
IS AS IN REFUELING STATIONS.
THIS INCLUDES OVER TEN THOUSAND
VEHICLES TWENTY THOUSAND LEVEL
TWO CHARGERS FOR MULTI DWELLING
UNITS. AS WELL AS REFUELING
CAPACITY TO SUPPORT OVER
THIRTEEN HUNDRED MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AND BUSES AND
FIFTEEN THOUSAND LIGHT DUTY FUEL
CELL ELECTRIC VEHICLES. THIS
CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION I'M
JOINED TODAY BY DR BRIDGES FROM
THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND
DIRECTOR RUSSELL FROM THE ENERGY
COMMISSION TO HELP ANSWER ANY OF
THE COMMITTEES QUESTIONS THANK
YOU. THANK YOU IT TOO MANY
COMMENTS RIGHT OFF THE BAT OKAY
GREAT WILL BE TURNED AWAY- THEN
FIRST. OF THANK YOU. SO THAT
THAT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSING
ABOUT ONE BILLION AND REDUCTIONS
IN PARTIALLY BACK FILLING THOSE
REDUCTIONS WITH GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION FUND REVENUES. WE FIND
THESE TO BE MOSTLY REASONABLE
THE REDUCTIONS ARE TARGETING
NEWER PROGRAMS AND OF EQUITY
PROGRAMS THAT. SUPPORT BENEFITS
TO LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES ARE
PRIORITIZED. THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS ALSO MADE AN EFFORT TO
CONSIDER AVAILABLE FEDERAL
FUNDS. WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU
BEGIN WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
SOLUTIONS BUT CONSIDER
ADDITIONAL SOLUTIONS BASED ON
YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES.
PROGRAMS COULD BE TARGETED TO US
TO FOCUS ON HIGHEST PRIORITY
NEEDS FOR EXAMPLE THE CLEAN CARS
FOR ALL PROGRAM COULD BE FOCUSED
ON. RECIPIENTS WHOSE INCOMES ARE
TOO LOW TO QUALIFY FOR A FEDERAL
TAX INCENTIVE TO SUPPORT TO
SUPPORT A PURCHASE OF A OF AN
EEVEE. WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT
YOU REJECT THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSED GIGI R. F. BUDGET
CONTROL LANGUAGE TRIGGER- WE
FIND THAT THIS WOULD LIMIT
LEGISLATIVE FLEXIBILITY AND
OVERSIGHT OVER G. JR F. REVENUES
. WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU- IN
ADDITION CONSIDER WHETHER- EV'S
ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR
GINGER FOR GINGER F. REVENUES AS
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL WOULD.
FIGHT WITH ALLOCATE THE MAJORITY
OF DISCRETIONARY TEACHER OF
REVENUES TO TWO SEVEN PROGRAMS
AND COMMIT OUT YOUR TEACHER OF
REVENUES WHICH IS AND WHICH
WHICH IS UNUSUAL AND WOULD
LIMIT. THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE
FUNDS IN FUTURE YEARS. BUT WE
RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER
THESE PROPOSALS IN THE CONTEXT
OF OTHER INVESTMENTS IN SAYS
INCLUDING AB EIGHT FEES WHICH
WE'LL DISCUSS LATER. AND ALSO A
PROPOSAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
GENERAL SERVICES TO INSTALL-
SAID CHARGERS AT STATE OWNED AND
LEASED FACILITIES THIS IS BEING
COMBAT CONSIDERED A BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE FOR BUT WE THINK IT
CAN MAKE SENSE TO. TO INCLUDE AS
PART OF THIS THAT PACKAGE. A
GREAT THANK YOU. THE TERM
BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE
INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS ONE. IS A
TREMENDOUS VALUE DESPITE THE
CUTS IS STILL TREMENDOUS
INVESTMENT IN YOUR MACHINE
VEHICLES FROM BUSES TO- TO
MEDIUM HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS TO-
PASTOR CARS. I'M REALLY HISTORIC
INVESTMENT DESPITE THE CUTS. DO
A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND PART
OF THIS ANTICIPATES- ISSUE
TWENTY FIVE AS WELL YOU KNOW THE
CALMATTERS HAD A STORY I THINK
JUST THE OTHER DAY SAYING THAT.
THE TWENTY ZIP CODES WHERE MORE
THAN 95% OF POPULATION- ARE
LATINO THE ZERO TO ONE PERCENT.
EV'S AND THE SEVENTEEN TO
TWENTY. SEVENTEEN TO TWENTY
BECAUSE LARGE PERCENT OF BLACK
RESIDENTS HAVE ZERO TO TWO POINT
6% EVEY SO OBVIOUS WITH A
MASSIVE CHALLENGE.
RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF.
MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THESE
VEHICLES- IN- THESE POPULATIONS
ARE WHEN YOU REACH A COUPLE
QUESTIONS ALONG THOSE LINES I
WILL TURN IT OVER TO MY-
COLLEAGUES. IN THE HOUSE OF
FOLLOW UP. THE NEW. FIRST AROUND
LONG TERM TO PLAN FOR CHOI MULTI
FAMILY. WE SHOULD TRY TO SLEDGE
. AT THE KNOX IS SEATED HAD SOME
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BUILDING
CODES. ARE THERE ANY CONFERENCE
STRATEGIES TO GET CHARGERS IN
MOST MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS AND
WHAT WE DID SEE THAT UP I KNOW
IT'S HAPPENING BUT DUE TO SLOW.
YEAH THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION
AND SOMETHING WE'RE VERY UP
SARHAN INTERSCHOOL I CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION. THAT'S
SOMETHING WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON
YOU MENTIONED BUILDING CODES
THOSE ARE GONNA PLAN IMPORTANT
ROLE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE ALL THE NEW STOCK IS BEING
DEVELOPED. IS ACTUALLY TO BE
DEVELOPED THE RIGHT WAY. THE
MULTI UNIT. DWELLING BUILDING
CODES REQUIRE 25% OF PARKING
SPACES. TO BE EVEY READY AN
ADDITIONAL 10% TO BE EVEN
CAPABLE THAT IS CERTAINLY PART
OF THE SOLUTION. WE'RE ALSO
TAKING A LOT OF THE MONEY THAT
HAS BEEN ENTRUSTED TO US THROUGH
THE GENERAL FUND AND THROUGH AB
EIGHT TO ALSO MAKE INVESTMENTS
MULTI UNIT DWELLINGS. WE DO THAT
IN A COUPLE WAYS WE HAVE A
PORTFOLIO APPROACH OF BLOCK
GRANTS. TO MOVE QUICKLY FOR
THOSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OUTER
STORE BASE RATE WOULD BE ABOUT
THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR
A LEVEL TWO. IF YOU DEPLOY THAT
IN A MULTI UNIT DWELLING IT'LL
BE SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
RECOGNIZING THAT THE HARDER
SEGMENT TO BREAK INTO. WE'VE
ALSO HAD DEDICATED SOLICITATION
FOCUSED SOLELY ON MULTI UNIT
DWELLINGS WE HELD ONE ABOUT A
YEAR AGO. I'M WHICH WAS QUITE
SUCCESSFUL AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE
ANOTHER ONE COMING UP AS WELL.
SO I THINK BETWEEN A COMBINATION
OF MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS IN
THE LEGACY STOCK. AS WELL AS
BUILDING CODES WILL BE REALLY
IMPORTANT. I DO WANT TO KNOW AS
WELL THOUGH THAT WE BELIEVE THAT
THE PUBLIC NETWORK WILL PLAY A
ROLE IN THAT AS WELL. THE WAY
PEOPLE FEEL AFTER VEHICLES ARE
GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN HOW THEY
FEW FUEL GAS VEHICLES. SO WHEN
WE GET MORE INFRASTRUCTURE AT
WORKPLACES. AND PUBLIC CHARGING
WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY TRAVEL TO.
THAT CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO M. U.
D. I'M SORRY. MULTI UNIT
DWELLING RESIDENTS AS WELL. OKAY
I WAS THE SUPER. AND ISSUES. I'M
HERE WE GO AGAIN IT IS. IT'S
JUST NOT REALLY BEING ON TRACK
TO- CAT GAS USE IN HALF BY
TWENTY THIRTY. YEAH I WOULD
BRING UP THE ISSUE SUPER USERS
WE TOUCHED ON IT A PREVIOUS
HEARING. THESE USERS ARE
CONSUMING LARGE PERSON GASSING
BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAVELING LONG
DISTANCES. THERE ARE
ORGANIZATIONS ARE AGGREGATING
THE DATA. AND CAN TELL YOU DOWN
TO THE ZIP CODE LEVEL WHERE
SUPER USERS ARE CONCENTRATED. SO
HAS GROUP CARBON CC LOOKED INTO
USING ANY OF THAT. DATA WHEN
TARGETING SAYS AND HOW CAN WE DO
THAT BETTER. CITY PURCHASE WITH
CALIFORNIA RESOURCES BOARD THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION-
EIGHT RECOGNIZES WILL CERTAINLY
BE AN ACTIVE AREA FOR DISCUSSION
FOR THE LEGISLATURE AT THIS YEAR
AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR
WAYS TO IMPROVE OUR PROGRAMS. I
WOULD SAY THAT HISTORICALLY THE
PROGRAM- HAS SERVED A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT PURPOSES SO JUST TO
GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE THERE-
WINNER CLEAN VEHICLE REBATE
PROJECT WAS IN ITS EARLY DAYS IT
WAS REALLY MEANT AS A TOOL TO
HELP ACCELERATE THE MARKET FOR
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES. AND NOW
THAT WERE KIND OF THERE AT LEAST
FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD
CONSUMERS WE STARTED SHIFTING TO
HAVE MORE OF AN EQUITY FOCUS AND
SO WHAT YOU SEE IS A LOT OF OUR-
OUTREACH IS REALLY INTENDED TO
TRY TO TARGET. EQUITY CONSUMERS
YOU KNOW WHETHER THEY BE SUPER
USERS ARE OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN
OF COURSE LOOKING FORWARD TO
CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION
WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN FOR WAYS TO
REFINE OUR PROGRAMS TO MAKE THEM
MORE EFFECTIVE. OKAY THANK YOU
YEAH I WAS THAT COOL THAT
CALMATTERS IS SHOWS WE GOT A WE
GOT A LOT OF WORK. TO DO. ON
WITHOUT A TURNOVER OF SOME PABLO
TURN OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO DO
ANY QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN. I JUST
WANTED TO. TOUCH ON I MEAN I'M
VERY CONCERNED ABOUT. THE SHIFT
FROM. FROM GENERAL FUND OR THE
BASE TO THE GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION FUND. AND SO I WANTED
JUST TO START OUT WAS SAYING OF
CAP AND TRADE SINCE ITS
INCEPTION. YOU KNOW ALMOST TEN
YEARS AGO- CAPITATE TRADE IS
GENERATED TWENTY THREE BILLION
DOLLARS BILLION IN GROSS
RECEIPTS. MORE THAN FIVE POINT
SIX BILLION OF THAT IS GOING TO
HIGH SPEED RAIL. AND ALONG WITH
THAT TWELVE TWELVE POINT FIVE
BILLION FROM TAXPAYERS STATE AND
FEDERAL HAVE GONE TO THAT
PROJECT AS WELL. AS OVER
EIGHTEEN BILLION SPENT ON THE
TRAIN. A TRAIN WITH A NEW PRICE
TAG OF HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS. THE PUBLIC WAS
TOLD IT WAS GOING TO COST US
THIRTY THREE BILLION NOW IT'S A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT. AND
THEY HAVE THEY HAVE NO IDEA
WHERE THE HUNDRED BILLION IS
GONNA COME FROM. AND I'D BET
MOST OR ALL THAT WILL COME FROM
TAXPAYERS IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER
- SO. IF HIS BODY'S GOING TO
CONTINUE TO TAKE THE- THE
PEOPLE'S MONEY AND PERHAPS WE
SHOULD. LOOK AT BETTER USES IN
BETTER PLACES TO SPEND THAT
MONEY. IN THIS BUDGET THE
PROPOSAL THEY'RE STILL. SEVEN
HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS
IT'S ALLOCATED. FROM G. R. F. TO
THE TRAIN WHICH IS GOING TO
LIMIT. THE AMOUNT OF.
DISCRETIONARY FUNDS THAT'S
THAT'S PART THAT DISCRETIONARY
BUDGET- SO. FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S
NOT A FAN OF THE TRAIN OBVIOUSLY
MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT. BECAUSE
IT'S I SAID ON THIS THIS
COMMITTEE- AND ON THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND
HEARD THE REPORTS. AND EVERY.
THREE YEARS WE GET A NEW
DIRECTOR. THAT'S THE BEEN THE
HISTORY WE GET A NEW DIRECTOR
AND THEY SAY THE LAST DIRECTOR
JUST COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. AND
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A HIGH
SPEED TRAIN AT SOME POINT. AND
THE LAST REPORT AT THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION THEY
TALKED ABOUT IT BEING. A SINGLE
TRACK. POSSIBLY NOT ELECTRIFIED.
AND YOU KNOW THIS IS REALLY
SOMETHING I THINK CALIFORNIANS.
ARE GONNA STRUGGLE WITH AND I
THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT
THAT SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS AND SAY LOOK WE NEED TO
REALLY ANALYZE THE TRAIN AND
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AND
WHO'S GOING TO PAY. AND WHEN
WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER THAT
PROJECT IN MY MIND IT WILL NEVER
BE BUILT TO WHAT IT WAS SOLD TO
THE PUBLIC AS NUMBER ONE. AND
THAT WE CAN REALLY TAKE THAT
SEVEN OR FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS
AND ACTUALLY DO PROGRAMS THAT
ACTUALLY REDUCE CARBON. AND
ACTUALLY HELP THOSE
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES THAT
SENATOR MCGUIRE AND MYSELF HAVE
THAT TRAVEL LONG DISTANCES. JUST
BECAUSE A GEOGRAPHIC'S BUT
THEY'RE ALSO THE POOR PEOPLE WHO
CAN'T AFFORD. THE CARS FOR ALL
PROGRAMS THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT
WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON IF
YOU LOOK AT THE DATA. AND I
DIDN'T SEE THE CALMATTERS REPORT
BUT I LAST YEAR THERE WAS A DATA
THAT CAME OUT OF WHERE. SABS
REALLY ARE. AND THEY'RE NOT IN
THE CENTRAL VALLEY WERE THE
POOREST OF THE POOR PEOPLE ARE
WITH THE WORST AIR QUALITY THEIR
COASTLINE COMMUNITIES. WHERE WE
HAVE MORE WEALTHY PEOPLE USING
AND THAT'S WHERE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT AS WELL.
SO I HEARD FROM. THE CALIFORNIA-
SUPPORT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THEY
WERE FOCUSING ON. THOSE A
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES WHERE
WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS BECAUSE-
THEY'RE THE FOLKS ON THAT THERE
THE- THE INNER CITY FOLKS TO.
CENTER BRADFORD TALKS ABOUT WHEN
WE'RE IN THE ENERGY COMMITTEE.
AND THE FOLKS THAT I'M TALKING
ABOUT IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS.
NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THERE
IS NO. ABILITY FOR THEM TO DO
ANYTHING BUT DRIVE A GAS POWERED
VEHICLE AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD. A
ZIP SO. THIS SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY
MILLION DOLLARS WOULD GO A LONG
WAY- TO HELP THOSE DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND I THINK. THAT
THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO HAVE A
REAL CLEAR PLAN ON THE HIGH
SPEED RAIL MONEY WHY WE'RE
PUTTING IT THERE. LOOK WE TALKED
ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
COMING TO THE TABLE THEY HAVE
PARTICIPATED SOME. BUT I THINK
THAT FUNDING IS GONNA DRIVE WE
ARE NOT GOING TO COME UP WITH A
HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS. TO
FINISH OUT THIS TRAIN AND I
THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT
IN THE OPEN I ALWAYS PROPOSED.
IF WE REALLY WANT TO COULD. CUT
CARBON PRODUCTION. I KNOW THAT
ALL CARBON IS NOT THE SAME IN
CALIFORNIA. THERE'S CARBON FROM
VEHICLES. AND THEN THERE'S
FORESTRY CARBON THAT WE DON'T
COUNT. AND WE CAN DO A LOT
BETTER IF WE- LOOK AT. THE
REDUCTION OF CARBON. THROUGHOUT
THE STATE IF WE LOOK AT FOR
STREET I KNOW THAT- ACTUALLY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER- I HAD A BILL.
AND ONE OF THE SENATE MEMBERS
PICKED UP THE BILL TO ACTUALLY
COUNT CARBON FROM FOREST FIRES
IN CALIFORNIA. BECAUSE CARBON'S
EQUAL CARBON CARBON AT THE END
OF THE DAY. ANYWAY MY POINT IS
THAT THE SEVEN FIFTY MILLION
DOLLARS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT BY
THIS COMMITTEE. I NEED TO BE
LOOKED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
TO GO INTO THIS OUT PROGRAM SO
WE HAVE MORE DISCRETIONARY
FUNDS- FOR. PROGRAMS THAT
ACTUALLY HELP DISADVANTAGED
PEOPLE GET INTO AN ELECTRIC CAR
AND GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE PUT
IN PLACE SO I JUST WANNA MAKE
THAT COMMENT. I THINK IT'S
SOMETHING THAT. YOU KNOW EVERY
YEAR WE ON THE FLOOR WE HEAR
ABOUT BUT NOTHING REALLY HAPPENS
AND IT'S AND IT'S A WASTE OF
MONEY. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE
SPENT. ALMOST SEVEN BILLION
DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY ON
AND THE COST OF GASOLINE IS THE
REASON WHY WE GET THE MOST THAT.
IS FROM OUR REFINERIES AND WE
HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT
TODAY ON THE FLOOR AND I THINK
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE SEVEN
FIFTY. WHAT YOU SHARE SOME OF
CENTER DOLLARS CONCERNS ON- JEEZ
YOU'RE F. FUNDING AND THE OF
BANG FOR THE BUCK WE'RE GETTING
WE ARE DISCUSSED AT NEXT WEEK'S
HEARING SO WILL THE CHANCE TO.
DIVE MORE INTO THAT- CINNABAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MISTER CHAIR
AB SO JUST I'LL BE VERY QUICK-
FOR. CARB- ADD SOME ADDITIONAL
DEEP CONCERNS REGARD TO WEAR
CARP WAS MOVING LAST YEAR ON THE
ISSUES OF CHARTER BOATS AND
COMPLAINTS. ON THE ISSUE- SINCE
THERE WERE NO. ELECTRIC ENGINES
AVAILABLE- FOR CHARTER BOATS TO
BETTER COMPLY WITH. END I DO
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE
BOARD- IN THE CAR STAFF FOR.
MAKING SOME PRACTICAL CHANGES TO
THAT POLICY. AND ALSO. UP FRONT
LOADING FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO
HELP. BOTH CHARTER IS WELL AS- A
COMMUTER BOATS- FAIRIES BE ABLE
TO COMPLY. I THINK OBVIOUSLY
THIS IS A WHERE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE THE GOVERNOR ONE AGO IN
REGARDS TO. I. G. G. R. F.
FUNDING I THINK THE ISSUE IS
THAT HUNDRED MILLION THAT'S IN
THERE. IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO
THE SMALL MOM AND POP BUSINESSES
THAT- RUN THESE CHARTER BOATS-
YOU HAVE LESS THAN A HUNDRED
FIFTY ACROSS. AT THE GOLDEN
STATE AND THESE CHARTER
BUSINESSES ARE SOME OF THE ONLY
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUSINESSES
LEFT- ON THE WATER. SO I JUST
WANTED TO CHECK IN ON THAT
HUNDRED MILLION UNDERSTANDING
YOU WANT TO BE ON THE BACK FOR I
BELIEVE ABOUT FORTY MILLION. UP
FOR COMPLAINTS IN THE G. G. R.
F. DISCUSSION- WHERE WE'RE AT ON
ROLL OUT OF THE PROGRAM. I CAN
DEFINITELY ACTION DOES YOUR
DEPARTMENT FINDS I CAN
DEFINITELY SPEAK TO THE FUNDING.
FOR THE CHARTER BOATS IT IS
MAINTAIN A 100% OF THE HUNDRED
MILLION IS MAINTAINED AS PART OF
THE SOLUTIONS- THERE THERE'S NO-
LANDSLIPS WITH THOSE DOLLARS I
THOUGHT THAT. PART OF IT IS
DEPENDENT ON THE GRF DISCUSSIONS
THAT IS THAT IS WELL THAT IS
GREAT IS BUILT INTO THE MULTI
RICHARD- D. HERE. I APPRECIATE
WHAT DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IS
SAYING IS THAT THIS IS KEPT HOLE
I THINK THAT OVERALL BEING
TRUTHFUL WE'RE NOT SURE IT'S
GOING TO BE KEPT HOLES DEPENDING
THE FUTURE SKYSHIP THE
LEGISLATURE IS MY UNDERSTANDING
. SO THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS A
- DANCING WE KEEP SAYING THAT
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE KEPT WHOLE
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL. WE
SHOULD ALL BE VERY CLEAR THAT.
HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF LOT OF THESE
PROGRAMS MAY NOT BE KEPT TOLD TO
SPACE OFF OF OUR BUDGET- AND OUT
YEAR BUDGETS. QUICKLY BECOME
ZEROED OUT BUT I HEAR YOU ON
THAT THIS BILL TURN I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT WERE. I WANT. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CAR WAS
TALKING ABOUT THE ROLLOUT OF THE
PROGRAM HE JUST WANTED TO GET A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING. YEAH NO
DEFINITELY AND IT JUST IT JUST
TO KIND OF BUILD ON TOP WHAT I
WAS SAYING EARLIER SENATOR
MCGUIRE. THE FORTY MILLION IN
THE OUT YEARS IS BASED ON
CURRENT ADMINISTRATION
PROJECTIONS OF WHERE CAPTAIN
TREAT SALES WILL GO IT'S NOT
TIED TO THE CONTROL SECTION
LANGUAGE. THAT'S BEING BUILT
INTO THE INTO THE BUDGET. THE
FORTY MILLION IS BASED SOLELY ON
WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION
BELIEVES CAP AND TRADE REVENUE
WILL BE. BASED ON- KERR- THE OUT
YOUR FLOOR PRICES AND CPI
ADJUSTMENTS SO IT'S A VERY
CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE IT'S
PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY THAT THAT
FORTY MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE
MAINTAINED. AS PART OF THE OUT
YOUR BUILD OUT. SO IT'S NOT.
TIED AT ALL TO THAT CONTROL
SECTION. LANGUAGE THAT YOU MAYBE
YOU'RE THINKING OF. OKAY I. K.
IN THAT'S CARP FEELS THE SAME
WAY. OF COURSE- BUT SENATOR YOU
ARE ALSO ASKING- A LITTLE BIT
EARLIER ABOUT THE ROLLOUT OF THE
FINE SO I CAN. CERTAINLY HELP
THERE AT THE LEGISLATURE DID
APPROPRIATE DOLLARS. LOS.
THANKS. THE.
REASONABLE APPROACH- IN ACTUALLY
SEEN SOME MONEY TO IT SO I JUST
WANT TO GIVE SOME CREDIT TO THAT
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT
REALLY GRATEFUL YOU ALL LISTEN
UP BECAUSE IT WAS A IT WAS A BIG
DEAL FOR MANY REPORTS SO THANK
YOU SO MUCH. GREAT I HAD ONE
OTHER QUESTION ON A CHARGING M.
AS WE SEEN IMPLICATION CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE CAN FACE MANY
DELAYS INCLUDING INTERCONNECTION
AND CONSTRUCTION- HOW CC WORKING
REDUCE THESE TYPES DELAYS
ENSURING CHARGES ARE BUILT AND
INTERCONNECTED A REASONABLE TIME
FRAME AND- JUST AS A FOLLOW ON
HOW THE NAVY FUNDING IMPACTED
THIS CC'S APPROACH AND PLAN INTO
IMPLEMENTING E. G. EVEY-
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS
YEAH- THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION SO- I KNOW SOME OF OUR
COLLEAGUES AT THE PUBLIC UTILITY
COMMISSION SPOKE ABOUT
INTERCONNECTION EARLIER I JUST
DUMP THE SIZE THAT THEY HAVE
BEEN TAKING SOME STEPS TO TRY TO
MOVE THAT ALONG YOU GET MORE
DATA AND REPORTING. ON THE
ENERGY COMMISSION SIDE WE'VE
LEARNED SOME LESSONS TO OVER THE
YEARS YOU KNOW ONE THING WE'RE
DOING WITH OUR NEW BLOCK GRANT
IS TO REQUIRE PROJECTS TO BE
MORE SHOVEL READY. PREVIOUS
BLOCK GRANTS A LOT OF PROJECTS
COME IN FIRST COME FIRST SERVE
AND WE WANT TO MOVE QUICKLY. AS
THE MARKET MATURED WERE X. WE'RE
EXPECTING THE PROJECT TO BE MORE
SHOVEL READY. AND WE'VE MOVED
AWAY FROM FIRST COME FIRST SERVE
FOR THOSE BLOCK GRANTS TO
EVALUATE THE PROJECT WHICH FOR
THE MOST READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO OUR PROGRAM DESIGN REFLECTS
THAT AS WELL AND WE THINK
THAT'LL BE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT.
WITH REGARDS TO NAVY- THIS IS
SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY WE'RE REALLY
EXCITED ABOUT. THERE'S TWO POINT
FIVE WELL WE ACTUALLY START WITH
THE FORMULA FUNDS. THERE ARE
THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY FOUR
MILLION. IN FORMULA FUNDS THAT
ARE GOING TO COME TO CALIFORNIA.
OVER FIVE YEARS THE ENERGY
COMMISSION AND CALTRANS BEEN
WORKING VERY CLOSELY WE
DEVELOPED OUR- NAVY PLANT WHICH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPROVED.
AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON
THE SOLICITATION DESIGN OF THAT
AND HOPE TO GET THE NAVY FINDING
OUT- FOR THE FIRST WINDOW OF THE
FIVE YEARS. THIS SUMMER. AND
THAT IS HAVING A DIRECT EFFECT
ON HOW WE PLAN FOR THAT BUT THE
OTHER MONEY WE HAVE. THE NAVY
FUNDING HAS TO BE SPENT. ON
ALTERNATIVE FUEL CORRIDORS. AND
IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN. YOU KNOW
FOR DC FAST CHARGER HIGH POWER
FAST CHARGERS. THE HUNDRED FIFTY
K. W. OR HIGHER. AND THEY MUST
BE NO MORE THAN FIFTY MILES
APART. SO WE BELIEVE USING THAT
NAVY FEDERAL FUNDING WE CAN. DO
A GOOD JOB OF STARTING JUST
READY TO SATURATE. THE AND
ENTER. AND ALL YOUR CORE. THAT
FREEZES UP TO USE OUR MY- FOR
MORE CHARGE. IN COMMUNITIES SO
FAST CHARGERS AT SHOPPING
CENTRES. PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
TRAVEL MORE CHARGING AT MULTI
UNIT DWELLINGS YOU MENTIONED
BEFORE. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY
ISN'T A PORTFOLIO APPROACH TO
UNDERSTAND. THE LIMITATIONS AND
ADVANTAGES OF THE FEDERAL MONEY
AND WHAT THAT FREES UP FOR OUR
MONEY AS WELL. I'M SORRY. I
SHOULD ALSO NOTE. THERE IS A TWO
POINT FIVE BILLION COMPETITIVE.
FUNDING FROM THE FEDS AS WELL.
FOR EASY CHARGING SEVEN HUNDRED
MILLION OF THAT. HAS JUST BEEN
NOTICED ON THAT WE CAN COMPETE
FOR. THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE
AT THE END OF MAY. AND WILL BE
COMPETING FOR SOME OF THAT MONEY
AS WELL. OKAY GREAT- WELL WITH
THAT HE WOULD YOU HAVE A WHOLE
OPEN RECOMMENDATION. ON THIS
MATTER AS TO WE WILL. ACCEPT
THAT RECOMMENDATION WANT AN
EXIT- ISSUE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE THE
ISSUE TWENTY FOUR. SUPPORTING
AND YOU RELY BUILDING CLEAN
ENERGY TRANSITION. ON AND- BEGIN
HERE FROM. DEPARTMENT FINANCE
ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.
WHEN READY.
GOOD DAY I AM NOW BEEN
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE SO- THE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET PROPOSES TWO
NEW KEY ACTIONS TO SUPPORT OUR
CONTINUED CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSITION WILL ENSURE
RELIABILITY. TO ADVANCE A
DIVERSE AND BALANCED CLEAN
ENERGY PORTFOLIO THE BUDGET
PROPOSES ESTABLISHING AN
OPTIONAL FORWARD CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT FUNCTION OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES
PROVIDING CPC SORRY THE OPTION
OF SELECTING D. W. R. TAKE OVER
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT FUNCTION FOR
LONG LEAD TIME DIVERSE LARGE
CLEAN ENERGY RESOURCES OR SELECT
AT HIRE YOU TO DO SO.
ADDITIONALLY TO FURTHER BOLSTER
THE STATE'S RELIABILITY OUTLOOK
THE BUDGET PROPOSES
ESTABLISHMENT OF CAPACITY
PAYMENTS BY LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES THAT RELY
DISPROPORTIONATELY ON THIS-
STATE ELECTRICITY RELIABILITY
RESERVE DUE TO HIGHER LEVELS OF
ENERGY RESOURCE DEFICIENCIES
THIS CALL MAY HELP MITIGATE
POTENTIAL OVER RELIANCE ON THIS
TEACHER COLLECTORS THE
RELIABILITY RESERVE FOR NEAR
TERM ELECTRICITY DEMAND AND HELP
ENSURE THAT THEY RESERVE WILL BE
ABLE TO ACHIEVE ITS PURPOSE OF
PROVIDING CAPACITY SUPPORT
RELIABILITY DURING EXTREME
EVENTS. YOU'RE HANDED OFF TO-
LOU- TESTIFIED THAT PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION TO GO A
LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE
PROPOSALS. THANK YOU SO MUCH
WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. SO
THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE REMARKS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION ON THE
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT FUNCTION
FROM THE TRAILER BILL. SO
THROUGH OUR STAKEHOLDER
PROCEEDING ON THE INTEGRATED
RESOURCE PLANNING THE COMMISSION
HAS DETERMINED THAT CLEAN
DIVERSE AND LONG LEAD TIME
RESOURCES ARE NEEDED TO MEET
CALIFORNIA'S TWENTY FORTY FIVE.
CLIMATE AND RELIABILITY GOALS
WITHIN THE ELECTRIC SECTOR. THIS
TEAM HAS BEEN DETERMINED IT HAS
BEEN CONFIRMED IN THE CDC'S SP
ONE HUNDRED REPORT PROCESSES
WHILE. THERE IS A NEED FOR
RESOURCE DIVERSITY WITHIN THE
STATE'S ELECTRIC SECTOR RESOURCE
PORTFOLIO AND LONG LEAD TIME
SAVERS RESOURCES PROVIDE
RELIABILITY. AND GREENHOUSE GAS
BENEFITS TO THE SYSTEM THAT
WOULD NOT BE PROCURED IN THE
TYPICAL PROCUREMENT ACTIVITIES.
HELLO SERVING ENTITIES WHICH
HAVE LARGELY BEEN CONTRACTING
FOR SOLAR PHOTOVOLTAIC. BATTERY
AN INSTATE WIND. OUR RESOURCES
AT AND THOSE ARE ON SHORE WIND
RESOURCES- WE HAVE CONTINUED TO
SEE A DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH
AMOUNT OF PROCUREMENT OF THESE
RESOURCES WHICH DON'T WHICH
WON'T BE SUFFICIENT IN THE LONG
TERM TO MEET OUR RELIABILITY OR
CLIMATE GOALS AND PLANNED
ACTION. WILL WILL BE NEEDED IN
ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. SO
WHY USE A CENTRAL PROCUREMENT
ENTITY. LONG LEAD TIME RESOURCES
CAN BE HARD TO PROCURE. WE PUSH
FOR THE MOST COMPETITIVE IN
CLEAN RESOURCES OR RESOURCES
LIKE OFFSHORE WIND FOR EXAMPLE
DESPITE ITS VALUE WILL NOT COME
TO THE TOP OF A RESOURCE
SOLICITATION. ELECTRIC MARKET
COMPETITION AND ENERGY RESOURCE
DEVELOPMENT COMPLEXITIES HAVE
THUS FAR PREVENTED SIGNIFICANT
PROCUREMENT OF CERTAIN LONG LEAD
TIME AND DIVERSE CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES. AND AS I STATED
EARLIER MOST OF THE NEW ENERGY
RESOURCES PROCURED IN THE STATE
TO DATE HAVE BEEN SOLAR
PHOTOVOLTAIC BATTERY STORAGE AN
ON SHORE IN STATE WIND
RESOURCES. LONG LEAD TIME
RESOURCES LIKE OFFSHORE WIND
LARGE SCALE DURATION ENERGY
STORAGE AND GEOTHERMAL HAVE
FEATURES THAT MAKE THEM LIKELY
TO REQUIRE THE SUPPORT FROM SOME
FORM OF CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT
ENTITY. IF THEY ARE TO BE
PROCURED AT ALL. THESE FEATURES
INCLUDE A HIGH LEVEL OF
DEVELOPMENT RISK LONG
DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES ECONOMIES
OF SCALE. I NEED FOR SIGNIFICANT
NEW TRANSMISSION TO ACCESS KEY
RESOURCES. FEDERAL AND STATE
PERMITTING PROCESSES AND SITING
PROCESS THESE. AS WELL AS NON
TRANSMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE
THE BUILD OUT OF PORTS. AND
MATERIAL SUPPLY CHAINS THAT
REQUIRE EXTENSIVE STATE LEVEL
INTER AGENCY COORDINATION WHICH
WE ARE DOING. ALL LECTURE
CUSTOMERS AND RATEPAYERS WILL
BENEFIT IF ALL OR SOME OF THESE
HARD TO PROCURE ENERGY RESOURCES
ARE PROCURED CENTRALLY. MORE
SPECIFICALLY THE CPU SEES MID
TERM RELIABILITY ORDER REQUIRED
LONG LOAD SERVING ENTITIES TO
PROCURE ELEVEN THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS OF NOT
QUALIFYING CAPACITY WHICH
INCLUDE THIS IS IN TWENTY TWENTY
ONE WHICH INCLUDED TWO THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS OF LONG LEAD TIME
RESOURCES ORIGINALLY FOR TWENTY
TWENTY SIX. WE HAVE BEEN
STUDYING THE TRAJECTORY OF THESE
EFFORTS AND EARLY INDICATORS ARE
SHOWING THAT LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES ARE STRUGGLING TO MEET
THESE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS
FOR LONG LEAD TIME RESOURCES. AS
SUCH THE COMMISSION LAST MONTH
EXTENDED THE DEADLINE FOR THESE
RESOURCES TO JUNE FIRST OF
TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT. HAVING THE
OPTION TO LEVERAGE OUR
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES OR
IN OTHER WORDS HAVING LOW
SERVING ENTITY AS THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY IS GOING TO
TAKE A KEY TOOL ON THE TABLE TO
PROCURE TO IT'S GOING TO BE A
KEY TOOL ON THE TABLE TO PROCURE
THESE LONG LEAD TIME. DIVERSE
RESOURCES. AS YOU SAW IN THE
TRAILER LANGUAGE THE
IDENTIFICATION OF A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY WILL ACTUALLY
OCCUR IN THE CPUC STAKEHOLDER
PROCEEDING FOR THE INTEGRATED
RESOURCES PLAN A PLANNING
PROCESS BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO
CONSIDER ALL VIABLE OPTIONS ON
THE TABLE WE NEED THE AUTHORITY
IN THE PROPOSED TRAILER BILLING
WHICH TO INCLUDE D. W. R. AS ONE
OF THOSE POTENTIAL OPTIONS. THE
W. R. HAS THE PROCUREMENT
EXPERIENCE AND THROUGH THE
TRAILER BILLING WHICH WILL HAVE
THE AUTHORITY AND RESOURCES TO
ACT IF IDENTIFIED. AS A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY AND OF COURSE
THAT STAKEHOLDER PROCESSES
INCLUDE GOING TO INCLUDE
RATEPAYER ADVOCATES.
ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL AS
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ORGANIZATIONS LABOR- THE
DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES AS WELL AS
ALL OF THE LOAD SERVING ENTITIES
. D. W. R. IS ALREADY ONE OF THE
LARGEST PROCUREMENT ENTITIES IN
THE STATE THROUGH THE D. W. OURS
ADMINISTRATION OF THE- ENERGY
RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AND
PROCUREMENT FOR THE STATE WATER
PROJECT. AND THEY PLAY A UNIQUE
ROLE. DURING THE CAT THE AND
THEY PLAYED A UNIQUE ROLE DURING
THE CALIFORNIA ELECTRICITY
CRISIS OF TWO THOUSAND AND ONE.
AND NOW UNDER A DEPUTY DIRECTOR
WHOSE LEADERSHIP WITH THE
MANAGEMENT OF THE- ELECTRICITY
SUPPLY STRATEGIC LIABILITY
RESERVE PROGRAM. D. W. R. HAS
DEMONSTRATED OVER THE YEARS THAT
IT HAS THE KNOWLEDGE AND
CAPABILITY TO PROCURE A LARGE
AMOUNTS OF NEEDED ENERGY
RESOURCES. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE CPUC. D. W. R. MAY BE BEST
TO LEAVE THE ISSUANCE OF
COMPETITIVE SOLICITATIONS
ESTABLISHING ADMINISTERING
REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR
ENERGY RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT. AND
OVERSEEING THE REVIEW AND
EVALUATION OF ENERGY RESOURCE
DEVELOPER PROPOSALS. LOOKING TO
THE ISSUE OF TIMING AS I
MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY EARLY
INDICATORS HAVE ALREADY SHOWED
US THAT LOAD SERVING ENTITIES.
MAY BE STRUGGLING TO PROCURE
SOME OF THESE LONG LEAD TIME
RESOURCE TYPES SUCH AS A
GEOTHERMAL AS WELL. AND THUS
COULD BENEFIT FROM A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY RIGHT AWAY.
OTHER RESOURCE TYPES SUCH AS
OFFSHORE WIND HAVE SUCH LONG.
DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES THAT
DEVELOPERS WOULD REQUIRE A CLEAR
PROCUREMENT SIGNAL OF LARGE OF A
LARGE NUMBER OF MEGAWATTS OF
THAT RESOURCE. THEN THE NEXT ONE
TO TWO YEARS FOR SUFFICIENT
QUANTITIES OF THE RESOURCE TO BE
ONLINE. AND TIME TO MEET THE
STATE GOALS. THIS ACTION ON PART
OF THE C. P. U. C. AS WELL AS A
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT ENTITY
WHETHER W. R. OR ANOTHER LOVE
ANOTHER LOAD SERVING ENTITY. MAY
BE NEEDED AS SOON AS THE FISCAL
YEAR TWENTY THREE TWENTY FOUR.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PLANNED
REMARKS AND I'LL TURN IT BACK
OVER TO MR OPENED. THAT OKAY
GREAT THANK YOU WHAT SORT OF
DAILY- FOR COMMENT. THANK YOU.
I'M SWEET WE SEE THIS AS TWO
MAIN PROPOSAL SO FIRST TWO NEW
STATE AUTHORITY TO PROCURE
ELECTRICITY ON BEHALF OF
ELECTRIC UTILITIES. AND SECOND
NEW PAYMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR
ELECTRIC UTILITIES THAT
EXPERIENCE ENERGY DEFICIENCIES.
DURING MONTHS IN WHICH THE STATE
IS USING THE ELECTRICITY OF
ELECTRICITY SUPPLY STRATEGICAL
LIABILITY RESERVE. WE HAVE FOUR
QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK THAT
THIS PROPOSAL RAISES AND THAT WE
RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER AS
AS YOU DELIBERATE IT. FIRST HOW
WILL RATE PAYERS BE AFFECTED SO
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS IN
WHICH THIS PROPOSAL COULD AFFECT
RATES FIRST TO THE CAPACITY
PAYMENT REQUIREMENT. FOR
UTILITIES THAT THAT ARE THAT DO
EXPERIENCE DEFICIENCIES IN THE
MONTHS IN WHICH THE RESERVE IS
USED IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW HOW
THESE PAYMENTS COULD AFFECT
RATES- IN ADDITION. THE PROPOSAL
WOULD ALSO GIVE THE C. P. U. C.
THE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE A NON BY
PASSABLE CHARGE FOR REPAIRS TO
COVER D. W. R. AS PRO
PROCUREMENT COSTS IT'S ALSO NOT
NOT CLEAR HOW MUCH THESE COULD
RAISE RATES IN. CALIFORNIA
ALREADY HAS SOME OF THE HIGHEST
LEVEL OF TRICITY RATES IN THE
COUNTRY SO ANY ACTIONS THAT THAT
COULD AFFECT THEM SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED CAREFULLY. THE MARKET
EFFECTS OF D. W. ARE ENTERING
THE MARKET TO CENTRALLY PROCURE
ARE ALSO SOMEWHAT UNCLEAR IT'S
NOT CLEAR HOW ENERGY DEVELOPERS
COULD ALTER PRICES AND HOW
ENERGY RESOURCES ARE PRICE TOOL
TO MAINLY AFFECT RATES. THE
SECOND QUESTION IS- ARC OUR
CURRENT PROCESS SEES
INSUFFICIENT SO IN A REPORT ON
THIS PROPOSAL WE OUTLINED THE
EXISTING INTEGRATED RESOURCE
PLANNING PROCESS AS WELL AS
OTHER. REQUIRED PLANNING PROCESS
CEASE TO INSURE THAT UTILITIES
HAVE SUFFICIENT ENERGY IT'S NOT
CLEAR TO US THAT THOSE ARE
NECESSARILY AN INSUFFICIENT TO
MEET FUTURE ENERGY RELIABILITY
NEEDS. AND THIRD WHAT ARE THE
RISKS TO THE STATE SO THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS INDICATED
THAT IT. INTENDS TO USE A
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT FOR LARGER
LONG LEAD TIME RESOURCES SUCH AS
OFFSHORE WIND AND GEOTHERMAL.
THESE ARE NEWER TECHNOLOGIES IN
CALIFORNIA AND VERY EXPENSIVE TO
BUILD. AND THAT THE LEGISLATURE
COULD CONSIDER CREATING
ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS OR
GUARDRAILS TO ACT TO HELP LIMIT
LIMIT SOME OF THOSE RISKS AND
BETTER ASSESS THE TRADE OFFS.
AND FINALLY WHAT IS THE STATUS
OF RECENT INVESTMENTS AND IS
MORE FUNDING REALLY NEEDED SO AS
AS WE AS WE MENTIONED WITH THE
ENERGY PACKAGE. IT APPEARS THAT
SOME OF THE RELIABILITY PROGRAMS
APPEAR- SOMEWHAT SLOW TO SPEND
DOWN. FUNDS THAT THE RESERVE
ITSELF HAS BEEN SPENDING
CONSISTENTLY BUT BUT- THERE
THERE THERE COULD BE A CONCERN
THAT THE CAPACITY PAYMENT TO
FUND THE RESERVE. COULD COULD BE
REDUNDANT GIVEN THAT SIGNIFICANT
FUNDS REMAINED IN THE RESERVES
BALANCE. THANK YOU I'M- I'M
ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON SOME OF
MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS- WHAT
ABOUT RATEPAYERS AT YOU KNOW
BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS PART
OF A REASON TO DO. SUCH A
PROCUREMENT IS TO LOWER THE COST
RATEPAYERS BECAUSE- IF THE
MARKET WITH. THE NOSE THERE IS A
LARGE OFF TAKE- PROVIDER THEN A
LOT OF THIS IS IN THE BORROWING
RATE WE CAN BORROW AT BETTER
RATES. SO WHAT IS YOUR WHAT
WOULD WHAT WOULD BE YOUR
RESPONSE ON. ON THAT QUESTION
TWO WHAT ELLIE- JUST RAISED ON
CONCERNS ON REPAIRS. THANK YOU
FOR THAT QUESTION CHAIR AND
EIGHT I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL
ON THE HEAD- THERE ARE A NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND
I'M HAPPY TO LET D. W. R. FILL
UP FILL THOSE DETAILS IN. ON WHY
AND AS A PROCUREMENT ENTITY LIKE
D. W. R. WOULD BE ABLE TO-
PROCURE AT POTENTIALLY LOWER
PRICES. I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
ONE THING BEFORE THAT THOUGH
WHICH IS YOU KNOW THESE ARE
RESOURCES THAT WE'VE ALREADY
DETERMINED ARE NEEDED SO IT'S
NOT THIS IS NOT. ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE NICE TO
HAVE WE DETERMINE IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE
THESE RESOURCES- AT THESE LONG
LEAD TIME RESOURCES THAT- THE
ATTRIBUTES OF THEM. ARE WHAT THE
SYSTEM IS GOING TO NEED NOT JUST
FOR RELIABILITY BUT IN THE LONG
TERM IN ORDER TO MEET OUR SP ONE
HUNDRED GOALS AND SO. WHEN
THINKING ABOUT- IS THIS GOING TO
BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO RATE
PAYERS THIS IS A COST REPAIRS
THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ANCHORED.
NO MATTER WHICH ENTITY IS DOING
THE PROCUREMENT BUT AFTER THIS
PROPOSAL WE'RE TRYING TO
IDENTIFY AN ENTITY THAT WILL BE
ABLE TO DO IT- EXPEDIENTLY AND
WITH WITH THE BEST COST TO
CUSTOMERS. AND THEN ONE OTHER
THING THAT I WANTED TO- MENTION
THERE AS WELL. IS THAT- THIS IS
THE START OF A CONVERSATION.
HAVING THIS TRAILER BILLING
WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR UC STAFF TO
BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A
PROPOSAL. THAT BRINGS TOGETHER
REPAIR ADVOCATES ENVIRONMENT I
MEAN ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS
ALREADY MENTIONED THEM. IN ORDER
TO DETERMINE- WHAT THE CP SHOULD
REALLY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT
RESOURCES THAT SHOULD BE
PROCURING AND SO I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT- I'M CLEAR THAT
THERE'S GOING TO BE A THOROUGH
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND PLAY.
WITH ALL OF THE RELEVANT PARTIES
TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION I
WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO A DEPUTY
DIRECTOR HO TO TALK ABOUT. SOME
OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT ODD OR-
THINGS THAT D. W. R. MIGHT BE
ABLE TO DO TO REDUCE THE COST TO
RATE PAYERS. I HAVE. OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN UNTIL THE
NODE A DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH T.
W. R. THANK YOU FOR THAT LEAD UP
SO AGAIN AS- EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR-
TESTIFIED. MENTIONED IN ORDER
FOR US TO BE A VIABLE OPTION-
WE'RE HERE TO KIND OF PROVIDE
OUR INPUT OF WHAT TO DO OF YORK.
COULD DO AND THERE'S LARGELY
SORT OF TWO DIFFERENT PATHWAYS
THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. I THINK FOR
MORE TRADITIONAL RESOURCES AND
AGAIN- NOT NECESSARILY KNOWING
WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE FOR THE
MORE TRADITIONAL RESOURCES THERE
COULD BE TWO DIFFERENT PATHWAYS
THE FIRST ONE BEING. OF A POWER
PURCHASE AGREEMENT WHICH I THINK
MOST LOW SERVING ENTITIES- CAN
EXECUTE THEMSELVES ARE ARE
FAMILIAR WITH. THE DIFFERENCE
THOUGH IS D. W. R. CAN TAKE A
POSITION OF HAVING MUCH LONGER
TERMS WITHIN A POWER PURCHASE
AGREEMENTS SO MAYBE SOMETHING IN
THE IN THE REALM OF FIFTEEN
TWENTY PLUS YEARS. AND THAT BY
HAVING THE LONGER TERM THAT
COULD REDUCE THE OVERALL COSTS
OF THE PROJECT SO THAT'S ONE
BENEFIT EVEN THOUGH IT IS VERY
SIMILAR TO WHAT LOWS HIRVING
ENTITIES CAN ALREADY DO. UNDER A
POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT- THE-
THE BALANCE THERE IS THAT THE
FUNDS WOULD THEN NEED TO BE-
SORRY- A DEBATE OVER THE NEED TO
WORK WITH THE C. P. C. FOR C. P.
C. TO AGREE. TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS
THAN- ALLOCATED THROUGH A NON BY
PASSABLE CHARGE OF FOR REPAIRS.
ON THE OTHER PATHWAY IF THE
PROJECT FOR EXAMPLE. ARE IS VERY
LARGE AND VERY COMPLEX YOU KNOW
SOME OF THE PROJECTS ON THE
RESOURCE TYPES THAT. WAS ALREADY
MENTIONED IT COULD BE IN A
SITUATION WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS
UNABLE TO SECURE FINANCING IN
WHICH CASE T. W. R. COULD ISSUE.
BONDS THROUGH A BONDING
AUTHORITY- TO SUPPORT THE
PROJECT- SO THERE AGAIN THE
BONDING AUTHORITY. THREE OF YOU
ARE BECAUSE WERE- TAX EXEMPT- WE
HAVE A TAX EXEMPT STATUS WE CAN
ALSO LOOK AT MUCH LONGER TERMS
AGAIN FOR FIFTEEN TWENTY PLUS
YEARS DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT-
AND AGAIN AS A STATE AGENCY
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE ANY
RETURNS. MORE THAN JUST SIMPLY
THE COST OF THE INSURANCE. SO
THROUGH THAT. WE THINK THAT WE
WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE- MORE COST
SAVINGS BUT AGAIN THAT'LL NEED
TO BE DETERMINED AGAIN AT THE C.
P. U. C. COMPARED TO THE OTHER
OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE-
AND- ASSOCIATED WITH THE BOND
ISSUANCE- WE WOULD ALSO BE
SEEKING. A NON BY PASSABLE
CHARGE OF FOR THOSE FUNDS SO
EITHER PATHWAY. COULD BE
POSSIBLE BUT AGAIN THROUGH THE
PROCESS AT THE CPC THAT OPEN
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. A WHETHER
OR NOT A. D. W. OURS EVEN
SELECTED OR WHETHER OR NOT- THE
NON BY PASSABLE CHARGE WILL BE
PASSED ON. THOSE ARE ALL PART OF
THE ACTUAL STAKEHOLDER PROCESS
THROUGH DETERMINATION AND A
BALANCE OF- OF WHAT THE C. P. C.
WE'LL SEE AS AS THE MOST. COST
EFFECTIVE AND APPROPRIATE A
PATHWAY FORWARD. OKAY GREAT
THANK YOU I'M- THANK YOU YOU
MENTIONED. GUARDRAIL SO DOES
THAT HOUSE HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT
THAT- THE. ARE YOU OPEN TO-
LIMITING THE TYPES OF RESOURCES
THAT CAN BE PROCURED. VIA THIS
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION I'M
SO JUST KIND OF TAKING A STEP
BACK CALIFORNIA REALLY DOES HAVE
A LONG HISTORY OF TECHNOLOGY
NEUTRAL POLICIES AND OUR CLEAN
ENERGY PROGRAMS AND WE THINK
THAT THIS HAS DELIVERED THE BEST
VALUE RESOURCE PORTFOLIO FOR THE
GRID AND KEEPS THE MARKET
COMPETITIVE. AS OUR PAST
PRACTICE WE AREN'T UP FRONT
IDENTIFYING THE RESOURCE ITSELF
BUT RATHER LOOKING AT THE
ATTRIBUTES NEEDED TO REACH OUR
POLICY AND RELIABILITY
DIRECTIVES WHICH INCLUDE LARGE
CLEAN AND DIVERSE RESOURCES AND
THESE HAVE LONG LEAD TIMES FOR
THEIR DEVELOPMENT. A WE WOULD
LEVERAGE THE ROBUST INTEGRATED
RESOURCE PLANNING PROCESS TO
MAKE THIS DETERMINATION OF WHAT
RESOURCES WILL REQUIRE A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY TO BE SUCCESS
BUT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THIS IS
THE IDEAL VENUE BECAUSE AGAIN WE
HAVE THE PARTICIPATION OF A VERY
DIVERSE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS
THAT HAVE IN DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF
THIS AREA. IN ORDER FOR THE C.
PC TO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THIS
OPTION THOUGH- WE WOULD NEED TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE D. W. R. HAVE
THE AUTHORIZATION. AND THIS
FUNDING LEVEL TO IT TO GET
STARTED TO BE A VIABLE OPTION ON
THE TABLE. AS I HAD SAID EARLIER
AND EARLIER IN RELATION TO
TIMING- WE WOULD NEED A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITIES TO COME
ONLINE AROUND TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FIVE BUT TO START GETTING
STARTED AROUND TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FOUR- IN ORDER FOR IT TO
BE A VIABLE OPTION HERE IN ORDER
TO GET OFFSHORE WIND. STARTED IN
THE TIME LINE WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AS WELL AS THESE DO THE
GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES- BUT- WE
LIKE TO KEEP. ALL OF OUR
DECISIONS TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL IN
ORDER TO KEEP THE PROCUREMENT
FIELD AS COMPETITIVE AS
POSSIBLE- I WANTED TO SEE IF ANY
OF. YES GO AHEAD. AND THANK YOU
FOR THAT AND I FAILED TO MENTION
BEFORE THAT FOR THE PATHWAYS
THAT WERE LOOKING AT IT WOULD
STILL BE. A COMPETITIVE
SOLICITATION- SO THAT IS STILL
THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT IT EXACTLY AS ON THE
SECOND DIRECTOR TESTIFIED JUST
MENTIONED. OKAY BECAUSE WE'RE A
WHAT ARE THE LESSONS LEARNED
FROM OTHER STATES WHAT OTHER
STATES HAVE DONE. DISCUSSANTS
ACUMEN ARE THERE OTHER BUT THE
RESORT ARE THERE- LESSONS
LEARNED- ON WITH A DUMPSTER WITH
OFFSHORE WIND OR OTHER RESOURCES
. AS A THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION AND WE HAVE HAD THE
CHANCE TO EXPLORE SOME OF THESE
OTHER MODELS FROM OTHER STATES.
OTHER CENTRAL PROCURE MECHANISM
THAT YOU KNOW AS PROPOSED SO FAR
WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR TO THE NEW
YORK MODEL- SO IN NEW YORK NICER
TO WHICH IS THE NEW YORK STATE
ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY. IS COORDINATING IN
THIS CASE OFFSHORE WIND
OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING CLEAN AND
LOCALLY PRODUCED RENEWABLE
ENERGY AND CLEAN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT IN NEW YORK STATE.
SO NICER TO RECEIVE THE
AUTHORIZATION FROM THE NEW YORK
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION WHICH
IS THE PC EQUIVALENT THERE. TO
ISSUE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATIONS
FOR OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY. I THIS
IS A VERY SIMILAR RELATIONSHIP
AS TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT HERE WHERE THE CPUC WOULD
HAVE- THE INTEGRATED RESOURCE
PLANNING PROCESS IN ORDER TO
IDENTIFY. WHAT TYPE OF RESOURCES
THE CP WOULD NEED TO BE FOCUSING
ON- IN THE CASE OF NYSERDA THEY
ALLOCATE THE OFFSHORE WIND
RESOURCES TO THE UTILITIES. AND
OTHER LOAD SERVING ENTITIES WHO
ARE REQUIRED TO PURCHASE A CLEAN
ENERGY IN ORDER TO MEET. THEIR
STATES WERE- GOALS WHICH- YOU
KNOW I KNOW ARE SET 70% OF THEIR
ELECTRICITY TO BE PRODUCED BY
RENEWABLE SOURCES BY TWENTY
THIRTY- AND A 100% ZERO
EMISSIONS BY TWENTY FORTY FOR
NEW YORK SO. YOU KNOW VERY
SIMILAR GOALS TO WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN CALIFORNIA.
AND SO. AGAIN WE WOULD WE HAVE
ALREADY IDENTIFIED FOR TWENTY TO
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THAT WE NEED
THESE RESOURCES TO BECOMING
ONLINE. AT AND TWENTY TWENTY BY
JUNE FIRST TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT
AND SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
LEVERAGE A MODEL THAT. WE HAVE
SEEN HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL- IN
ORDER TO TRY AND DO THAT FOR
CALIFORNIA AS WELL. OKAY I'M
MOVING OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES AND
I MADE ONE LAST FOLLOW UP.
SIMILAR THE DOG. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN SO. WHERE DO I
START SO WE BASICALLY HAVE. THE
YOU KNOW WE WANT I WANT I WANT
ELEPHANT ROOM IS PROCUREMENT AT
THE END OF THE DAY- YOU KNOW WE
HAVE. INCENTIVIZED WIND AND
SOLAR. BIG TIME THROUGH TAX
CREDITS AND- LOCAL. NOT HAVE TO
PAY LOCAL TAXES AND OUR- GRID
RELIABILITY HAS NOT SEEN THE
BENEFIT OF THAT AND SO WE SO MY
FIRST QUESTION IS. ARE THE
EXISTING. PROCUREMENT PROCESSES
REQUIREMENTS INSUFFICIENT SO WE
HAVE. THERE'S MORE THAN JUST A
CAL I SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S
SEVERAL LOAD. SERVICING AGENCIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE I THINK
THERE'S THREE OR FOUR MOST
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL
THINK THAT THERE'S THE ICE SO
DOES IT BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. SO
WHAT WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT THIS
IS A HUGE SHIFT. THIS IS THE
GOVERNMENT AND THE LAST TIME THE
GOVERNMENT GOT THE ENERGY
BUSINESS. RATES WENT UP AND WE
TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN THE
EARLIER PANEL ABOUT WHO ENDED UP
PAYING. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT I
DID THIS IS THIS IS A HUGE SHIFT
AND I WANT TO THANK THE LA O'S
OFFICE FOR BRINGING UP. SOME OF
MY CONCERNS THAT I HAD
ORIGINALLY ISN'T AND I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT RATES. AT THE
END OF THE DAY. N. N. TECHNOLOGY
SO. WHAT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH
THE ONES THAT WE HAVE NOW AND
WHAT WHAT IS IT WHAT DO YOU SEE
THE SHIP I HEARD THE PART ABOUT
YOUR TAX EXEMPT SO THIS IS
BECAUSE YOUR GARBAGE. GOVERNMENT
ORGANIZATION YOU CAN ISSUE TAX
EXEMPT BONDS AND YOU CAN GET
MONEY AT A LESS EXPENSIVE. THE
PRICE. AND N. U. N. U. A. TALKED
ABOUT. THE COST BECAUSE THEY
REALLY DIDN'T TODAY WE WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THE COST. TO THE RATE
PAYER BECAUSE CALIFORNIA'S ARE
PAYING 70% HIGHER THAN. THAN
MOST PLACES ACROSS THE NATION.
BECAUSE WE HAVE EXTREMELY
AGGRESSIVE GOALS TO GET THERE.
BUT YOU WHEN YOU ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION YOU DIDN'T SAY THE
RATES WERE GOING TO GO DOWN ALL
OF US ARE THANKING THE RATES ARE
GONNA GO DOWN IF WE DO A-
DIFFERENT LOAD. BASE DIFFERENT
AUTHORITY QUITE FRANKLY- BUT YOU
SAID THEY MIGHT NOT GO AS GO UP
AS MUCH AS WHAT I HEARD YOU
DIDN'T DIRECTLY SAY THAT BUT YOU
LOSE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE CAN.
BORROW MONEY CHEAPER SO LET'S
TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE
AVAILABLE TODAY. AND WHAT THE
DIFFERENCES IN JUST THAT. OTHER
THAN JUST THE COST. OF BORROWING
MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S NO REASON.
TO SHIFT FROM IRAQ I THINK SOME
OF OUR POLICY PROBLEMS ARE THE
REASON WE'RE WE'VE- HEAVILY.
INVESTED IN WIND AND SOLAR WHICH
WHEN THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE AND
THE WIND DOESN'T BLOW WE OUT. A
LOAD BALANCING PROBLEM LET'S
TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. I
CAN START MADE A TRADE TO TAKE
NOTES- ON A COUPLE OF THINGS
THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THERE.
UP FIRST I DO WANT TO START ON
RATES- SO PROCUREMENT OVER THE
COST OF ENERGY IS A SIGNIFICANT
COMPONENT OF RATES BUT THERE
REALLY ARE. MANY OTHER ELEMENTS
THAT ARE COST DRIVERS. OF THAT
WOULDN'T BE RELATION AND
RELATION TO. RESOURCES BEING
PROCURED HERE SO AND- I KNOW
THAT YOU KNOW THE SO BUT I'LL
JUST SHARE FOR THE RECORD- YOU
KNOW WILDFIRE MITIGATION COSTS-
COSTS TO. HARDEN THE SYSTEM-
MAKE THIS SYSTEM OF DID. UPGRADE
THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM PREPARE
OURSELVES FOR- DECARBONISING OUR
GRID. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL VERY
SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF THE
RATES THAT CUSTOMERS PAY. LOOK
AT LOOK AT THE COST OF
RENEWABLES YOU KNOW WE HAVE
STEADILY SEEN THE PRICE OF
RENEWABLES GO DOWN AND- YOU KNOW
THAT'S DOCUMENTED IN OUR- OUR
OUR PS REPORTS LEGISLATURE AS
WELL. AND SO. LOOKING AT WHAT
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE
JUST RATES HAVE A MULTIPLE
COMPONENTS WE'VE SEEN THE PRICE
OF RENEWABLES COME DOWN. AND BUT
DEPUTY DIRECTOR HO HAS OUTLINED
JUST A COUPLE OF THE FACETS OF.
D. W. R. AS A POTENTIAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY THAT WOULD.
COME INTO THAT- I REALLY WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT. THIS IS THE
BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION WE
WANT TO HAVE D. W. R. AS A
POTENTIAL OPTION ON THE TABLE
BUT WE WILL HAVE A ROBUST A
COLDER PROCESS THAT ARE GOING TO
BE LOOKING. IN DETAIL AND
GATHERING A RECORD ON WHAT THESE
COSTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE BEING ABLE
TO DO COMPARISONS AND
IDENTIFYING WHICH ENTITY COULD
BE THE BEST CENTRAL PROCUREMENT.
ENTITY FOR THESE TYPES OF LONG
LEAD TIME RESOURCES. THROUGH
THAT PROCESS WE WOULD ALSO LOOK
AT POTENTIALLY OTHER LOAD
SERVING ENTITIES AS POTENTIALLY
OF FULFILLING THIS FUNCTION. AND
BE ABLE TO PUT PROPOSALS
TOGETHER AND GET INFORMATION
FROM THOSE LIVING ENTITIES IN
ORDER TO BE SEEN TO SEE DO THEY
YOU KNOW HAVE OTHER. ATTRIBUTES
. TO THEM THAT MAKE THEM. MORE
COST THE FOR CUST. SKILL SET.
THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO AT THIS
POINT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
JUST MAKE SURE THAT. WE'RE ABLE
TO BRING ALL OF THE- TOOLS TO
THE TABLE AND BE ABLE TO PUT A
PROPOSAL TOGETHER AND COMPARE
ALL OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT
WHAT THINGS THAT WE DO KNOW IS
THAT WE NEED THESE RESOURCES- WE
NEED THEM IN A PRETTY NEAR TIME
FRAME BUT THERE'S STILL A LONG
LEAD TIME. BUT WE NEED TO GET
STARTED ON THEM- AND SO. WE'RE
TRYING TO OPERATE KIND OF UNDER
THOSE TWO THINGS BUT- I
DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE
CONCERNS ABOUT- RATES GOING UP.
AND UP THIS IS A POTENTIAL
OPPORTUNITY TO. MITIGATE COSTS
WHILE STILL DOING THE
PROCUREMENT THAT WE ALREADY KNOW
HAS TO HAPPEN. I'D LIKE TO START
THEIR- AND THEN GIVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR- DIRECTOR-
DEBBIE DIRECTOR HOWARD DEPUTY
DIRECTOR. EARNED TO SHARE ANY
OTHER. THOUGHTS NO. ADDITIONAL
PERSPECTIVE. OKAY I'LL JUST WAIT
JUST TO ENTER QUICKLY THAT- MANY
WHEN THINGS ARE OFF SHORE WIND
IS THAT IT'S COMPLETELY.
CORRELATE PREPARES PERFECTLY
WITH ONSHORE WIND AND- SOLAR
RIGHT TO A KINDA IT COMES ON
RIGHT WHEN. ON SHORE WIND AND
SOLAR ARE GOING DOWN SO THAT'S
THE I THINK THE POSITIVE PIECE
THERE'S ONE INTERJECT THAT GO
AHEAD HER SHIRT THAT I WANTED TO
JUST HAVE A FEW MORE COMES OUT-
YOU KNOW THE POWER PURCHASE
AGREEMENTS ARE. IN MANY CASES.
LONG TERM FOR MOST OF THE HYDRO
PLANTS I. WAS PARTICIPATING IN
BUILDING. THIRTY YEARS. RIGHT
AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING
TO SELL YOUR PRODUCT FOR YOU
HAVE TO BUILD THE PROJECT IN.
AND THOSE PROJECTS SERVED THE
PUBLIC WELL WHEN WE SAW. EARLY
ON IN IN POWER PURCHASING IT
WHEN UTILITIES WERE PURCHASING
RENEWABLES AT THE WHEN THEY WERE
FORCED TO WE SAW TWENTY FIVE
CENT SOLAR. AND NOW WE SEE THREE
SETS OR BUT IF YOU LOOK AT
SOLAR. AND YOU LOOK AT THE TAX
CREDITS THAT GO WITH IT THAT
DOESN'T GET EQUATED INTO THE
RATE PAYERS COST. BUT WE'RE
STILL ALL TAXPAYERS AS WELL SO
THERE SOMEBODY BENEFITING. FROM
ANOTHER POT OF MONEY THAT COMES
IN. AND AS WE ALL KNOW OUR
NATIONAL DEBT AND ARE DEAD OR IS
IT GOING UP BECAUSE A TAX CREDIT
SO YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WANT TO
PUT APPLES TO APPLES YOU HAVE TO
REALLY LOOK AT. WE'RE ALL THE
SAME PEOPLE WE ALL. OUR RATE
PAYERS AND WE'RE ALL TAXPAYERS
AND SO. I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE
GONNA WALK INTO SOME AND LOCK
INTO SOME LONG TERM CONTRACTS
LIKE WE DID WITH SOLAR. AT
TWENTY FIVE CENTS THANK GOD SOME
OF THOSE ARE COMING OFF LINE NOW
AND- AND WE'RE SEEING THE
REDUCTION. BUT THEY'VE BEEN
BOUNCED OFF OF TAX INCENTIVES SO
AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS
CONCERNING AS TECHNOLOGY WE
HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY
TECHNOLOGY IS RAPIDLY. CHANGING
FOR THE BETTER WE'RE SEEING NEW
TECHNOLOGIES OUT WITH. B.
STORAGE FOR BATTERIES AND- I GOT
THE LADY'S. CAR OVER HERE
BECAUSE I WAS INTERESTED IN-
SOME OF THOSE TECHNOLOGIES AND
WHY WE WEREN'T COMPETITIVE AT
THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND SO I HATE
TO SEE IS LOCK OURSELVES IN. A
LONGER TERM CONTRACTS WHEN
TECHNOLOGY IS RAPIDLY CHANGING
AND THEN WE'RE STUCK FOR THIRTY
YEARS- WITH SOMETHING THAT IS
MORE EXPENSIVE AND- ACROSS THE
BOARD. YOU KNOW RATES. HAVE NOT
COME DOWN THEY'RE GOING UP AND
THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO
UP WHETHER IT'S WILD FIRE
WHETHER IT'S HARDENING OF THE
LINES THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS
IN. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ROB
PRODUCTION OF THE RESOURCES THAT
ARE OUT THERE. WE'VE HEAVILY
INVESTED INTO RESOURCES WIND
SOLAR AND OUR GRID IS NOW.
REAPING THE HARVEST OF THAT WERE
IN THE WIND IS NOT BLOWING AND
THE SUN IS NOT SHINING WE HAVE A
REAL PROBLEM AND WE HAVE TO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO. FIX THAT PART
AND WE ALSO HAVE REALLY INVESTED
IN THE GRANT SYSTEMS IN THEM AND
THE FOR BATTERIES. AND BATTERIES
ARE A LONG WAY AWAY FROM.
GETTING US FOR THOSE SIXTY ENDED
PERIODS OF TIME WELL WE DON'T
HAVE THE WIND AND SUN. DOING
THEIR THING. BATTERY
TECHNOLOGIES CREATE CREASING BUT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THOUSANDS
OF MEGAWATTS HOURS THAT WE ARE
NOT GOING TO MEET AND WE I THINK
THE- LAST REPORT WAS WE HAVE
FOUR THOUSAND MEGAWATT. STORAGE
FOR LIKE TWO HOURS THOUGH IT'S
NOT IT'S NOT FOR DAYS OR TIMES
AND WE SEE EXTREME HEAT EVENTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION I
THINK THIS IS A- IS A REALLY BIG
POLICY CHANGE. FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO BE LOOKING AT.
PUTTING D. W. R. ANY OTHER LOAD
BAY LOAD SERVICING AN EVENT. NET
TO BE ESPECIALLY THE GOVERNMENT
NOW IS IN THE LOAD IS GOING TO
BE INVOLVED IN IT AND IT'S IN
PROCURING ELECTRICITY. FOR
LONGER BECAUSE I MAKES ME VERY
NERVOUS- BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT
TESTIFIED IN COME IN ARE PEOPLE
THAT ONLY CARE ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT- ONLY CARE ABOUT
THEIR ISSUE. BUT YOU HAVE TO
TAKE ALL THOSE INTO
CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE
LOOKING AT. HOW THE RATES ARE
GOING TO BE FOR CALIFORNIANS AND
AS A LEGISLATOR I HEAR. EVERY
DAY. ABOUT THE SPIKES IN OUR
ENERGY COSTS WHETHER IT'S
NATURAL GAS RECENTLY OR IT'S
JUST THE- ONGOING COST OF. HOW
TO RESOURCES GASOLINE DIESEL-
AND ENTER AND ELECTRICITY ARE
ALL GOING UP IN CALIFORNIA ARE
SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THAT. AND
ARE WE REALLY GETTING THE BANG
FOR BUCK WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ENVIRONMENT. THE OTHER THING I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT IS LEAKAGE. WE
ARE LEADING THE WORLD WHEN IT
COMES TO SETTING TARGETS. AND
WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THESE LOAD BID
TO BEAT THEIR TALK ABOUT YOU
KNOW THE WESTERN STATES
BECOMING. AN AUTHORITY THAT'S
OTHER CONVERSATIONS AND I'M
WORRIED ABOUT LEAKAGE THAT WE'RE
GONNA BE GETTING DIRTY ENERGY
INTO CALIFORNIA- WHEN WE'RE
PAYING THE RATE FOR CLEAN
ENERGY. SO JUST SOME COMMENTS-
AND CONCERNS AND I DO
APPRECIATE- THE LA O'S OFFICE
BROUGHT UP MANY OF THE THINGS
THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT AND
MAINLY IT'S THE RATE PAYERS. AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
GETTING A GOOD CLEAN ENERGY IN
CALIFORNIA. GERMAN SO MUCH
MISTER CHAIR. WELCOME TO THIS
COMMISSION INDEFINITELY IT'S
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THANK YOU SO
MUCH. PARDON ON S. B. THIRTEEN
THIRTY NINE WHICH WAS A SINNER
STERN VEIL GOSH I THINK BACK IN
TWENTY TWENTY- FOCUS ON MICRO
BRAIDS. IN JUST WANTED TO. CHECK
IN ON THE PRECEDING LOOKED AT I
THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN ESPECIALLY
IN THE NORTH COAST- THE BENEFIT
OF LARGE MEDICAL GRADES IN WHAT
IT CAN DO TO BE ABLE TO. PROTECT
CALIFORNIANS ESPECIALLY DURING
POWER SHUT OFFS LIKE WHAT WE SAW
WITH BLUE LINK UP IN UP IN
HUMBLE COUNTY. INTO OBVIOUSLY
THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE WITH CENTER
SERVICE MEANT TO EXPEDITE RIGHT.
AT THE BUILD OUT OF THE SYSTEMS
AND WANTED TO BE TO SEE WHERE
YOU'RE AT WITH THE PROCEEDING
AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE- WITHIN
THE PUBLIC TO HIS COMMISSION.
YES HAPPY. TO GIVE THAT UPDATE
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. SO
THE C. HAS TAKEN SEVERAL ACTIONS
TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIALIZATION
OF MICROGRAMS. IN ADDITION TO
THE POLICY DIRECTION AND FUNDING
WE HAVE DIRECTED- THROUGH THE
CECE'S EPIC PROGRAM OF COURSE WE
HAVE THE MICROGRID A PROCEEDING
AND THIS WAS AT THIRTEEN THIRTY
NINE FROM TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN.
AND SO IN JUNE OF TWO THOUSAND
NINETEEN- THIS. ENGINE OF TWO
THOUSAND SORRY IN SEPTEMBER OF
TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN WE OPEN
THE PROCEEDING AND THAT'S WHERE
WE STARTED. BUT IN JUNE OF
TWENTY TWENTY THE CPUC ADOPTED
OUR FIRST DECISION IN THAT
PROCEEDING WHICH WAS REALLY
FOCUSED ON SHORT TERM ACTIONS TO
ACCELERATE. MICROGRID
DEVELOPMENT AND DEPLOYMENT THIS
REALLY FOCUSED ON- DEVELOPMENT
OF SINGLE LINE DIAGRAMS TO HELP
SUPPORT INTERCONNECTION. AND
IMPROVE THOSE PROCESSES AS WELL
AS REQUIRING THE UTILITIES TO
CREATE A DATA ACCESS PORTALS.
FOR DISTRIBUTION AND
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM SO THAT. ODD
TRIBES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
WOULD BE ABLE TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPE OF.
DISTRIBUTION AND TRANSMISSION
SYSTEM WAS SERVING THEM AND-
ANALYZED YOU KNOW IS A MICROGRID
THE RIGHT OPTION FOR THEM. IN
JANUARY OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE-
THE COMMISSION VOTED TO APPROVE
ANOTHER DECISION THAT ADOPTED.
RATES TARIFFS AND RULES FOR
FACILITATING THE
COMMERCIALIZATION OF MICROGRID.
AND THIS INCLUDED THE FRAMEWORK
FOR THE MICROGRID INCENTIVE
PROGRAM WHICH IS. A TWO HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM A FOCUS
ON EQUITY AND TARGETING
CUSTOMERS MOST VULNERABLE. TO
OUTAGES- AND ALSO SUPPORTING
COMMERCIALIZATION OF CLEAN
MICROGRID TECHNOLOGIES. OTHER
PROGRAM RULES FOR THAT BUT FOR
THAT PROGRAM HAVE BEEN IN
DEVELOPMENT AND THE RULES FOR
THE PROGRAM WILL BE VOTED ON BY
THE COMMISSION NEXT MONTH
ACTUALLY- BUT IN BETWEEN THAT
TIME IN JULY OF TWENTY TWENTY
ONE. WE ALSO APPROVED THE
DECISION THAT ADOPTED THE
SUSPENSION OF THE CAPACITY
RESERVATION COMPONENT OF THE
STAND BY CHARGE FOR ELIGIBLE
MICROGRID TECHNOLOGIES AND THIS
WAS AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT WHAT WE
CALL THIRD PARTY MICROGRID
DEVELOPMENT- AND FOR CUSTOMERS.
LOOKING TO INVEST IN THESE
TECHNOLOGIES. I DO WANT TO DRAW
THE LINK BETWEEN A MICROGRID
SENT AND SUMMER RELIABILITY AND
A SPECIFIC ACTION THAT WE-
EXPEDITED IN DECEMBER OF TWENTY
TWENTY ONE. THIS INCLUDED THE
APPROVAL OF TEMPORARY MICROGRAMS
A LEVERAGING TEMPORARY
GENERATION AT SUBSTATIONS AND P.
GINNY'S TERRITORY WHICH WHAT HAD
BEEN HEAVILY IMPACTED BY A
PUBLIC SAFETY POWER SHUT OFF AT
THAT TIME- AND THEN SUPPORTING
IMMEDIATE RELIABILITY NEEDS
WHICH INCLUDED. A FOR A NEW
CIRCUIT LEVEL MICROGRID PROJECTS
PROVIDING P. CONNECT TIKRIT NOT
PEAK GRID RELIABILITY SO REALLY
LOOKING INTO- BOTH A SUPPORTING
THIRD PARTIES AND OF. CREATING
MICROGRAMS I'M CREATING A
MICROGRID INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO
SUPPORT DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES MOST VULNERABLE TO
OUTAGES. AND THEN ALSO-
APPROVING A FEW UTILITY SCALE
MICRO GRIDS AS WELL. IN JUST.
PRECEDING YOU'RE SAYING YOU
BELIEVE IT'S GONNA HAVE ON THE
RULES YES THE NEXT MONTH TO JUST
WALK US THROUGH THAT SO YEAH- A
NEW. WHAT YOU EXPECT ON THAT. SO
IT FOR THE MICROGRID INCENTIVE
PROGRAM WE ARE NOT ONLY FOCUSING
ON. MICROGRID THEMSELVES BUT
REALLY TRYING TO PERPETUATE
CLEAN MICROGRID TECHNOLOGIES SO
THERE ARE MICRO GRANTS OUT THERE
THAT DO SOLAR AND STORAGE BUT
THEY OFTEN HAVE- DIESEL BACK UP.
THERE AND SO TRYING TO LOOK OUT
HOW THESE NEW MICRO GRIDS CAN
LEVERAGE- LONGER DURATION ENERGY
STORAGE RATHER THAN HAVING
DIESEL THERE- THE PROGRAM RULES
ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR MOST
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES SO.
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES BUT IN
PARTICULAR THOSE THAT HAVE HAD A
MULTIPLE OUTAGES IN THAT AREA-
IT'S A LIMITED POT OF MONEY AND
THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS
NOT JUST A FUN THE MICROGRID. IN
TOTAL BUT REALLY- SUPPORT
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SEEKING OUT
ALL OF THESE FEDERAL FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE ON THE
TABLE SO THEY CAN COMBINE- OF
COURSE THEIR OWN FUNDS THESE
FUNDS FROM THE PROGRAM BUT ALSO
A DIFFERENT FEDERAL FUNDS AND
GRANT FUNDS. IN ORDER TO PUT
TOGETHER A MICROGRID FOR THEIR
COMMUNITY IF THEY'RE INTERESTED
IN THAT. KIND OF THANK YOU SO
MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. GREAT
THANK YOU- I GUESS. ONE LAST
QUESTION MMHM. THIS AROUND.
CAPACITY PAYMENTS SERVICE IT
BECAUSE RATES CONCERNS WITH
CAPACITY PAYMENT TO. THE
LITERACY SUPPLY STRATEGIC
RELIABLE RESEARCH PROGRAM. ON
TOP OF THE PENALTIES ASSESSED BY
SI PC AND CHI SO. GIVEN THAT
TIGHT NEAR TERM ENERGY RESOURCE
CAPACITY MARKET. IS
ADMINISTRATION'S VIEW THE
EXISTING PALLY BY CEBU CITY IS
NOT SUFFICIENT CENTRE. BELL A
CEASE TO MEET THEIR CAPACITY
REQUIREMENTS. GREAT QUESTION
THERE AND I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE
CONCERT MORE INSIGHT THERE SO
THE PURPOSE OF THESE PAYMENTS
IT'S DIFFERENT FROM APART FROM
THE PENALTY THE PURPOSE OF THE
PAYMENTS ARE IN ORDER TO
REPLENISH THE PROGRAMS THAT IT
CAN. BE SELF SUSTAINING- YOU
KNOW BUT THERE'S LIMITED FUNDS
THAT WERE USED TO SET THAT UP
BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE ABLE
TO BE USED. NEED TO HAVE- A
STREAM OF FUNDS THAT COME IN
FROM THOSE ENTITIES THAT USE IT.
AND SO GIVEN THAT THE PROGRAM
CAN BE LEVERAGED BY ALL OF THE
LOAD SERVING ENTITIES OF THROUGH
THIS CAPACITY PAYMENT I WILL BE
ABLE TO REPLENISH THE FUNDS IN
THE PROGRAM. THE PENALTIES THAT
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN ORDER
TO SUPPORT COMPLIANCE THOSE
PENALTIES DON'T GO BACK INTO THE
STRATEGICAL LIABILITY RESERVE
AND SO WE'RE NOT REALLY AND
THEY'RE ALSO NOT PRICED IN A WAY
TO. REPLENISH OUR PROGRAM SO-
THE PENALTIES ARE A WAY TO GET
AND LOADS EVERY ENTITY TO BE
COMPLIANT BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A
WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PROGRAM IS SELF SUSTAINING. OKAY
I'M WELL THANK YOU RESPONSE
ISN'T ON ALL THESE- I GUESS JUST
TO REITERATE I MEAN. I DO
APPRECIATE THE L. A. O.'S
CONCERNED BUT- IT DOES SEEM AS
WE DISCUSSED THAT THIS
INSTRUMENT HAS BEEN DENTAL TO.
REALLY LOWER RATES. BY LOWERING
THOSE BARRING COSTS- IF THE-
MARKET KNOWS THROUGH THIS THAT
THERE IS A- LARGE OFFTAKE
PROVIDER. SHE DISCUSSING THAT
AND- AND SOME OF THE GUARD
RAILS. ON THAT THAT YOU COULD
PUT IN PLACE AROUND THE SO I
APPRECIATE YOU. ADDRESSING THOSE
WE DO HAVE A HOLD OF HER
RECOMMENDATION. ON THIS ISSUE-
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THANK YOU
JEFFREY BECKER TESTIFIED AFTER
HUGH DOCTORS AREN'T THANK YOU. I
NEVER GONE TO A ISSUE TWENTY
FIVE WHICH IS. THE AUTHORIZATION
OF THE CLEAN TRANSPORTATION
PROGRAM FEES AND PROGRAM
AMENDMENTS. AND WE WILL HEAR
FROM THE CDC. WHEN I'M READY TO
PRESENT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
.
BECAUSE YOUR MONEY YES. WELL
THAT WORKS BETTER- GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS PATTY
MONAHAN I'M A COMMISSIONER AT
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION. OUT AND I'M THE LEAD
FOR TRANSPORTATION AND I'M HERE
TO REPRESENT SORT OF WRIT LARGE
THE- A. B. EIGHT RE
AUTHORIZATION PACKAGE. SO OF
BOTH THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD AND THE ENERGY
COMMISSION- WORK HAND IN HAND IN
GLOVE IN IMPLEMENTING THIS
PROGRAM. I WANT AND I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT OUR RULES ARE
VERY DISTINCT AND COMPLEMENTARY.
SO THE MY AGENCY THE ENERGY
COMMISSION IS FOCUSED ON THE
ANALYSIS AND BUILD OUT OF
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES. AND THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
ESTABLISHING THE VEHICLE
STANDARDS AND FOR THE VEHICLE
INCENTIVES AND WE TRY TO WORK
REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE WHOLE OF
GOVERNMENT APPROACH SO GRANTEES
DON'T PERCEIVE US NECESSARILY A
SEPARATE AGENCIES BUT AS A
SINGLE GOVERNMENT ENTITY
PROVIDING GRANTS IN THE SPACE.
RE AUTHORIZING A. B. EIGHT
FUNDING WILL SUPPORT PROGRAMS OF
BOTH OF OUR AGENCIES TO CUT
HARMFUL POLLUTION FROM
TRANSPORTATION AND HELP THE
STATE TRANSITION TO A HEALTHIER.
ZERO EMISSION FUTURE. SO LET ME
JUST TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE
CLEAN TRANSPORTATION IMPERATIVE
YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THIS TWO ISSUES AGO BUT JUST TO
EMPHASIZE TRANSPORTATION IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR HALF OF THE
STATE'S GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS. UP CLOSE 280% OF SMOG
FORMING NITROGEN OXIDE POLLUTION
AND OVER 90% OF TOXIC DIESEL
POLLUTION SO THIS IS JUST A REAL
PUBLIC HEALTH IMPERATIVE. AND
WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF A MAJOR
TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSION
TRANSPORTATION WE'RE SEEING THIS
NOT JUST HERE IN CALIFORNIA BUT
PLAY OUT GLOBALLY. IN CALIFORNIA
WE REACHED 19% OF NEW VEHICLE
SALES BEING ZERO EMISSION LAST
YEAR. THAT'S MORE THAN DOUBLE
WHAT IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO SO
WE'RE SEEING JUSTICE RAPID RAMP
UP IN ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
COMMERCIALIZATION. AND AS THE AS
THE TRANSITION ACCELERATES WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR-
THAT THIS IS A TRANSITION THAT
WORKS FOR EVERYBODY INCLUDING
PRIORITY COMMUNITIES. RURAL
COMMUNITIES LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES ALL NEED TO GET
ACCESS TO ZEROCHAN
TRANSPORTATION AND BE ABLE TO
CAPITALIZE ON THE BENEFITS IN
TERMS OF. PAYING LESS FOR FUEL.
AS THE RECENT AIR RESOURCES
BOARD SETS INCREASINGLY STRONGER
STANDARDS TO REDUCE HARMFUL AIR
POLLUTION A MOVE TOWARDS ZERO
EMISSION FUTURE. A. B. EIGHT RE
AUTHORIZATION WILL PROVIDE
CONSISTENT FUNDING TO HELP MEET
STATE GOALS. OF OUR AGENCIES ARE
COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE
ADOPTION OF ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN
AN EQUITABLE MANNER IN CREATING
ACCESS FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS. SO
WHERE ARE WE TODAY WE CURRENTLY
HAVE EIGHTY THOUSAND LIGHT DUTY
CHARGERS DEPLOYED IN THE STATE.
WITH EXISTING STATE AND FEDERAL
FUNDING. WE'RE GONNA RETURN NEAR
TERM GOAL OF TWO HUNDRED FIFTY
THOUSAND CHARGERS AND IN FACT.
THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO MEET
OUR GOAL OF HAVING TEN THOUSAND
DC FAST CHARGERS US SO TWO YEARS
AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. EXISTING
STATE FUNDING IS ALSO SUFFICIENT
TO GET US TO TWO HUNDRED
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE HYDROGEN
STATIONS. SO AS REQUIRED BY THE
LEGISLATURE THROUGH AB TWENTY
ONE TWENTY SEVEN WE CONDUCT AN
ANALYSIS EVERY TWO YEARS OF
CHARGER NEEDS THROUGH TWENTY
THIRTY AND BEYOND. SO WE PUBLISH
THE INAUGURAL ANALYSIS IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE WE FOUND THAT WE'RE
GONNA NEED ONE POINT TWO MILLION
CHARGERS BY TWENTY THIRTY FOR
LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES. THE
CHALLENGE AHEAD IS THAT WE
ESTIMATE THERE'S A NINE HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS NINE HUNDRED
THOUSAND CHARGER GAP IN MEETING
THAT ONE POINT TWO MILLION
TARGET. AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA
NEED INVESTMENTS AND MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY. INFRASTRUCTURE SO I
WANT TO EMPHASIZE WE DO NOT
EXPECT THE STATE TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL NINE HUNDRED
THOUSAND CHARGERS THE PRIVATE
SECTOR HAS A CRITICAL ROLE TO
PLAY HERE. BUT OUR PLAN IS
REALLY TO PRIORITIZE INVESTMENTS
WITH- WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR
IS NOT. GOING TO ACT AND THIS IS
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
CONVENIENT CHARGING ACROSS THE
STATE AND ESPECIALLY IN RURAL
LOW INCOME AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. SO THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET PROPOSES. TO EXTEND
EXISTING FEES THAT WOULD TOTAL
APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED AND
EIGHTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS PER
YEAR. THESE FEES WERE FROM
ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED IN TWO
THOUSAND AND EIGHT THROUGH
EIGHTY EIGHTY ONE EIGHTEEN. THEY
WERE RE AUTHORIZED THROUGH
ASSEMBLY BILL EIGHT IN TWENTY
THIRTEEN. AND THEY'RE SLATED TO
END AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD EXTEND THE
PROGRAM THROUGH TWENTY THIRTY
FIVE. THERE ARE THREE IMPORTANT
PROGRAMS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH
THESE FEES. I'M A START WITH THE
ONE MANAGED BY THE ENERGY
COMMISSION THE CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. SO THAT
WE GETS THE BIGGEST SHARE OF
FUNDING A HUNDRED AND- TEN
MILLION OR ABOUT 60% OF THE
TOTAL. M. AND IT GOES TOWARDS
THE CECE'S CLEAN TRANSPORTATION
PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES FUNDING
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES AS WELL AS
OTHER CLEAN TRANSPORTATION
PROJECTS. I WANT TO THANK. YOU
THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE HISTORIC
ZEV BUDGET OVER THE PAST TWO
YEARS- AS YOU DISCUSSED EARLIER
THE GOVERNOR PROPOSES TO.
PRESERVE 90% OF THOSE FOUR OF
THAT FUND- AND WE'RE IN THE
MIDDLE OF A VERY STRANGE BUDGET
YEAR HARD CHOICES HAVE TO BE
MADE. MAYBE IT RE AUTHORIZATION
ENSURES THAT THERE IS A
CONSISTENT SET THERE IS
CONSISTENT FUNDING. TO HELP FUND
THIS PACKAGE. IN ADDITION A. B.
EIGHT FUNDS EVERY AUTHORIZED
WILL SUPPORT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR MANY YEARS AFTER THE END OF
THE CURRENT ZEV PACKAGE WHICH
ENDS IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY FIVE
TWENTY SIX. SO CURRENTLY WE'VE
INVESTED ABOUT HALF OF THE FUNDS
TO BENEFIT LOW INCOME AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. AND
WE'RE ALSO LEVERAGING THE
PRIVATE SECTOR SO FOR EVERY
DOLLAR WE INVEST A DOLLAR IS
LEVERAGED FROM THE PRIVATE
SECTOR. TWO ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS
ARE FUNDED THROUGH A B. EIGHT RE
AUTHORIZATION THE AIR QUALITY
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM NICKNAMED A
QUICK. WHICH IS MANAGED BY THE
AIR RESOURCES BOARD. THAT
PROGRAM RECEIVES FORTY TWO
MILLION PER YEAR TO SUPPORT THE
DEPLOYMENT OF CLEANER COMBUSTION
AND ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AND
EQUIPMENT. EQUIP IS A CRITICAL
PART OF THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD
INCENTIVE PORTFOLIO IT HAS BEEN
USED TO START AT MANY OF CARBS
FLAGSHIP PROGRAMS LIKE THE CLEAN
VEHICLE REBATE PROJECT. AND THE
HYBRID AND ZERO EMISSION TRUCK
AND BUS INCENTIVE PROJECT. SO
CURRENTLY IS BEING USED FOR A
LOAN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT
PROVIDES LOANS TO SMALL BUSINESS
SMALL BUSINESSES THAT PROBABLY
CANNOT QUALIFY FOR CONVENTIONAL.
FINANCING AND THIS IS A WAY TO
MAKE SURE THAT SMALL BUSINESSES
CAN GET ACCESS TO CLEANER
VEHICLES. SINCE THE PROGRAM'S
SINCE PROGRAM INCEPTION NEARLY A
HUNDRED THOUSAND CLEANER
VEHICLES HAVE BEEN FUNDED. THE
THIRD AND LAST- PIECE OF THIS IS
THE ENHANCED FLEET MODERNIZATION
PROGRAM WHICH IS ALSO NICKNAMED
E. F. M. P. AN AWKWARD ACRONYM.
MANAGED BY BOTH THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD IN THE BUREAU OF
AUTOMATED AUTOMOTIVE REPAIRS. IT
RECEIVES ABOUT THIRTY THREE
MILLION PER YEAR AND PROVIDES
INCENTIVES TO LOW INCOME
INDIVIDUALS TO SCRAP HIGH
POLLUTING VEHICLES AND REPLACE
THEM WITH CLEANER ALTERNATIVES.
REMOVING THESE OLDEST VEHICLES
FROM THE ROADS IS A KEY PART OF
THE STATE'S STRATEGY TO REDUCE
POLLUTION. AND IT HELPS FAMILIES
STRUGGLING WITH OLD OFTEN
UNRELIABLE CARS. SO BE A. R.
SCRAP ONLY OPTION OFFERS
ELIGIBLE LOW INCOME CONSUMERS A
FIFTEEN HUNDRED DOLLAR INCENTIVE
TO RETIRE THEIR OLDER HIGH
POLLUTING VEHICLE. THIS ACCOUNTS
FOR ABOUT 90% OF THE FUNDING FOR
THE PROGRAM. TO DATE NEARLY A
HUNDRED THOUSAND VEHICLES HAVE
BEEN SCRAPPED. A ARBY'S SCRAP
AND REPLACE PROGRAM PROVIDES LOW
INCOME MOTORISTS WITH THE
RETIREMENT INCENTIVES AND
ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION TOWARD
THE PURCHASE OF A CLEANER HYBRID
OR ZERO EMISSION REPLACEMENT
VEHICLE. OR FOR A TRAVEL VOUCHER
. IS THIS IS RUN THROUGH THE AIR
DISTRICTS AND PROVIDES VOUCHERS
VALUED AT UP TO FORTY FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS. THEIR RESOURCES
BOARD COORDINATES THIS CLOSELY
WITH ITS RELATED CLEAN CARS FOR
ALL FUNDING. TO DATE ABOUT THREE
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED VEHICLES
HAVE BEEN RETIRED AND REPLACED.
SO IN CONCLUSION AGAIN I WANT TO
THANK THE LEGISLATURE FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON ZERO EMISSION
TRANSPORTATION- DESERVE PACKAGES
IN RECENT YEARS- HAVE REALLY
HELPED US ACCELERATE PROGRESS.
WE HAVE A STRONG SHARED VISION
FOR A CLEANER HEALTHIER
TRANSPORTATION FUTURE. AND I IN
THE ADMINISTRATION LOOK FORWARD
TO PARTNERING WITH YOU ON MAKING
THAT VISION A REALITY. RE
AUTHORIZING A. B. EIGHT WILL
PROVIDE STABLE CONSISTENT
FUNDING TO HELP INSURE
CALIFORNIA CAN MEET ITS GOALS
FOR CLEAN TRANSPORTATION. EVEN
IN THE FACE OF A STRANGER
GENERAL FUND. SO WE NEED SEVEN
FOR STRUCTURE MORE AND MORE AS
WE- TIP INTO THE BROADER
MAINSTREAM MARKET. THIS ISN'T AN
EXISTENTIAL A CHICKEN AND EGG
PROBLEM DILEMMA ANYMORE THE CARS
ARE HERE MORE COMING WE NEED TO
BE READY FOR HIM. WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE LIKE
CENTER DOLLY IN A RURAL
COMMUNITY THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS
IF YOU'RE LOWER INCOME COMMUNITY
AND YOU'RE STRUGGLING
DISPROPORTIONATE WITH AIR
POLLUTION THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS.
WE WANT TO SAVE CONSUMERS MONEY
MAKE SURE EVERYBODY BENEFITS
MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT JUST A
SOLUTION THAT WORKS. FOR WHAT I
WOULD CALL THE COASTAL ELITE BUT
FOR EVERYBODY IN CALIFORNIA. SO
I'M ACCOMPANIED BY HANNAH
RUSSELL WHO LEADS THE ENERGY
COMMISSION'S FEELING TRANSFERRED
FUELS IN TRANSPORTATION DIVISION
AS WELL SYDNEY VIRTUS FROM THE
AIR RESOURCES BOARD THE CHIEF OF
THE MOBILE SOURCE DIVISION. AND
WE WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
COMMISSIONER MONAGHAN. LET'S SEE
HERE FROM THAT HELLO FIRST AND
THEN. FOR FRANCE OKAY QUICK.
THANK YOU. SO THAT THE SENSOR
DATA IS OFFERING THE LEGISLATURE
A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER
THESE FEES AND- AND TO REVISIT
WHETHER THEY'RE STILL STILL
ESSENTIAL. AND ALL ALL REFER TO
THEM AS FEES AS THEIR DEFINED IN
STATUTE BUT CONSTITUTIONALLY
THESE ARE TAX REVENUES. VEHICLE
FEES HAVE INCREASED
SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST
DECADE SO IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING
THE COST BURDEN THESE FEES DO
PLACE ON HOUSEHOLDS AND WHETHER
THE THEY MERIT THE BENEFITS. THE
FEES WERE LAST RE AUTHORIZED IN
TWENTY THIRTEEN AND SINCE THEN-
A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THE SPACE
WITH SIGNIFICANT NEW FUNDING
COMING FROM THOSE F. PACKAGES OF
THE PAST TWO YEARS. AND ALSO
FUNDING FROM THE GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION FUND WHICH IS
SUPPORTED TO HAVE PROGRAMS.
EXTENDING A B. EIGHT FEES COULD
PROVIDE A RELIABLE SOURCE OF
FUNDING FOR THESE FOR THESE
EFFORTS- TO HELP OFFSET A
GENERAL FUND REDUCTIONS. BUT RE
AUTHORIZATION IS ALSO AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER HI SPEED
UP HIGHEST PRIORITY NEEDS. THE
LEGISLATURE COULD SUPPORT A
DIFFERENT MIX OF CLEAN VEHICLE
PROGRAMS OR USE THE REVENUE FOR-
AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PURPOSE.
THE LEGISLATURE COULD ALSO
CONSIDER RESTRUCTURING THE FEES
TRY TO EASE SOME OF THOSE COSTS
BURDENS ON LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS
WENT ONE APPROACH COULD BE USING
A MORE PROGRESSIVE STRUCTURE TO
TAKE THE- VEHICLE VALUE IT INTO
CONSIDERATION. THE FEES COULD
ALSO BE APPLIED TO MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES ABOUT HALF
OF THE REVENUE FROM THESE FEES
CURRENTLY SUPPORTS THAT CATEGORY
OF VEHICLES BUT THE FEES
THEMSELVES ARE ARE PAID BY
PASSENGER VEHICLE OWNERS.
OVERALL WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU
CONSIDER WHETHER THESE FEES ARE
STILL NECESSARY IN THE CONTEXT
OF OTHER REGULATIONS. AND
FUNDING AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO RE
AUTHORIZE THEM CONSIDER THE
HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR THE FUNDS
WHICH COULD INCLUDE A DIFFERENT
MIX OF THE OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY BEING FUNDED. THANK
YOU PREVENTS PLEASE. WE DON'T
HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
OKAY. GREAT I'M- WITH I THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR THAT TESTIMONY
COMMISSIONER AND THEN FROM THERE
WE GO- IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THE FMP
PROGRAM I THOUGHT THAT WAS MY
MYERS BRIGGS SCORED FOR SECOND
BUT- THE- BUT I DO THINK THOSE
PROGRAMS OR- HAD TO RETIRE A
BANG FOR THE BUCK ARE. A REALLY
VALUABLE AND- AND I APPRECIATE
THE ATTENTION THERE- I'M GONNA.
BUY MOVIE COVER. SEE MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE ANYTHING. REAL
QUICK I JUST WANTED TO MENTION
THAT. I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT
YOU KNOW. AND ACTUALLY THAT
CORNELIA'S OFFICE RESEARCH THAT
SHOWS AND WE THE CENSUS DATA
SHOWS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
USING. THE REBATES ARE PEOPLE
WHO PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A
SEVEN THE FIRST PLACE SO I THINK
THAT'S- WORTH NOTING IN AND WE
TALK ABOUT DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE THAT
REALLY NEED IT. AND THOSE WHO
TROT TRAVELING WAS AN ADDITION
TO THAT. YOU KNOW THIS IS IT
THIS IS THE TAXES A TWO THIRDS
VOTE I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN
THE ASSEMBLY- AND AT THAT TIME-
CARL MOORE IT WAS ATTACHED TO IT
AND IT WAS A IT WAS A DIFFERENT
BATTLE WE HAD ON THE- ON THE
DISCUSSION OF IT- BUT YOU
SHOULD. AS ONE OF JUST FOR THE
RECORD. YOU KNOW WE PAY TWENTY
TWO CENTS A GALLON IN CAP AND
TRADE FUNDS THAT'S WHAT IT
THAT'S WHAT HE CREATES TOO. SO
FOR A THE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CAR
THEY GET SUCKED. ROUGHLY TWENTY
FOUR MILES TO THE GALLON AND
DRIVE FIFTEEN THOUSAND FIFTEEN
HUNDRED MILES AWAY A MONTH PER
MONTH. IT'S YOU KNOW HUNDRED
NINE TWO HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR
DOLLARS ANNUALLY THAT THIS THAT
THAT THAT THAT THE TWENTY TWO
CENTS COVERS SO THAT'S ALREADY
IN THERE IN THE CAP AND TRADE
FUNDS THAT WE- DO ALL KINDS OF
OTHER PROGRAMS FOR THIS OUT SO-
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT YOU
KNOW IT'S DOUBLE HIT. IT'S
GETTING YOU AT THE REGISTRATION
SITE AND IS GETTING AT THE GAS
PUMP BOTH TIMES IN. CALIFORNIA
ARE STRUGGLING IN THIS IS A- AND
IT'S ALSO VESSELS THAT THAT PAY
INTO THIS AS WELL SO. I THINK WE
NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE
FACT THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOUBLE
DIPPING. ON ON THE RATE PAYER OR
THE- PERSON IS DRIVING. AND SO.
YOU KNOW I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE
A LOOK AT THE PROGRAM AS A
WHOLE. AND WHO'S ACTUALLY USING
IT. IN THE DAY. IT'S A LOT
EASIER TO VOTE FOR- FEES OR
TAXES HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY
IT. IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING
IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY
ARE TRYING TO TARGET. AND IN
THIS CASE THE DATA SHOWS THAT.
PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THESE
PROGRAMS ARE WEALTHY PEOPLE WHO-
ARE DISADVANTAGED. WITH THANK
YOU I CERTAINLY AGREE. ONE
QUESTION- SUPER USERS AND IF M.
P. IN THAT YOU KNOW WE NEED TO
BETTER TARGET OR INCENTIVES THAT
CREATE THAT. I GUESS MY LAST
QUESTION IS- THE HOUSE CAR
COURTNEY'S TRANSPORTATION
PLANNING EFFORTS WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. IF
SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE. TAKE
THAT. SURE HAPPY TO SYDNEY FOR
JUST CALIFORNIA. THE NEIGHBOR
JUST CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES
BOARD APPRECIATE THE QUESTION- I
WOULD SAY- COORDINATION POINTS-
ARE KIND OF PROGRAM SPECIFIC SO
IT'S REALLY KIND OF WIDE AND
VARIED SO JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE. YOUR CAR WE
HAVE OUR INNOVATIVE CLEAN
TRANSIT REGULATION AND SO WE
COORDINATE WITH CALTRANS ON
THEIR LC TOP AND HE'S OUR
PROGRAMS. WE ALSO WORK WITH
AGENCIES IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING
QUANTIFICATION METHODOLOGIES FOR
THEIR TEACHER A FUNDED PROGRAMS
AND CERTAINLY- EXTEND THAT
COLLABORATION TO CALTRANS AS
WELL. AND THEN OF COURSE WERE
WORKING WITH THEM ON THEIR
UPCOMING CALIFORNIA
TRANSPORTATION PLAN- SO THERE'S
A NUMBER OF TOUCH POINTS. OKAY
THANKS I THINK THAT. CORNISH'S
CRITICAL ESPECIALLY IN EVEN EVEN
GOING BACK TO OUR- FIRST
CONVERSATION AROUND THOSE THE
BETTER MANUFACTURING PLANTS IN
OUR OUR SERVER HOLISTIC-
APPLICATIONS FOR THESE FUNDS.
I'M WELL THANK YOU. THAT
COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF AND
WILL- AND TEAM WILL. HAVE A HOLD
OF THE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS AS
WELL SO WE'LL MOVE ON NOW. BUT
TO THE NEXT ISSUE THANK YOU.
THIS IS- ISSUE TWENTY SIX WHICH
IS- IMPLEMENTING THE HOURLY.
ELECTRICITY RETAIL RESOURCE
ACCOUNTING. AND- LET FOLKS COME
ON UP AND GET ORGANIZED.
GREAT THANK YOU WILL HEAR FROM
THE CC WHEN YOU'RE READY. FOR
THE VIDEOTAPE. THEM THE ROOMS
ARE. TURKEY COOKING SEGMENT- SO
- YES- I HAD DIFFERENT- SO- THIS
REQUEST IS TO HELP US. BUILD THE
CAPABILITY TO EXPAND OUR- OUR
PROGRAM. TO GATHER ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION FROM OUR RETAIL AND
- GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FOR
OUR RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN
EXPAND OUR- OUR ABILITY TO.
ANALYZE AND PROVIDE OVERVIEW OF
THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND
THEIR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS-
FOR DIFFERENT SHE'S. TELL
RECKONED YOU NEED TO WORK THAT
OUT AND DEVELOP THE REGULATIONS
AND TEN TENSION HAVE WE'VE
SUBMITTED ARE FINE TO GATHER
INFORMATION TO IDENTIFY WHAT
INFORMATION WE CAN GATHER AND
THE CHALLENGES SO SEE WITH THAT
IS THAT OUR FIGHT IS GONE OUT
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING
THAT INFORMATION AND- DEVELOPING
REGULATIONS. GREAT I'M- THE AREA
OF ANY COMMENTS JUST THIS
QUICKLY- WE DID REVIEW THIS
REQUEST AND DIDN'T HAVE CONCERNS
WITH THE WITH THE REQUEST ITSELF
HOWEVER WE DO AGREE WITH STAFF
COMMENTS THAT THE ENERGY
RESOURCES PROGRAMS ACCOUNT WHICH
IS PROPOSED TO FUND. THE REQUEST
IS IN A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT SO
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE
LEGISLATURE WILL WILL WANT TO
CONSIDER JUST THAT THE HEALTH OF
THE- OF- BY AND- MAKING SURE
THAT THE DEFICIT IS MANAGED.
THANK YOU I'M- SEVENS ANY. NO
SIR OKAY. I'M WELL THANKS WE
DON'T NEED TO SPEND I THINK A
LOT OF TIME IN THIS TO JUST
CREATE THE CONCERNS RAISED BY
THAT THE- ELLIE- WHEN I SHARE
THEM ABOUT THE- BUT I COUNT AND
WE JUST WANT TO. YOU KNOW WE'RE
WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY THIS WAS IN
PART OF THE SENATE WORKING GROUP
PACKAGE AND OBVIOUSLY PASSED
LEGISLATURE AND JUST REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT THIS BILL IS
COMING FROM A SUSTAINABLE
SOURCE. OF FUNDING AND WHICH ONE
OF- MAKE THAT RAISE THAT LEVEL
OF CONCERN AND- ISSUE IN ANY
FATHER. YES ROB COOK WITH ENERGY
COMMISSION- WITH THE SUPPORT OF
THE SUBCOMMITTEE. THE BUT HAS
GONE THROUGH FORTY MILLION TO AS
AS THE STAFF ANALYSIS NOTES
FORTY MINUTE MILLION DOLLARS FOR
THE FIXES OVER OVER SEVERAL
BUDGET CYCLES. THAT HAVE HELPED
DRAMATICALLY ROOM IMPROVE OUR
OUR COST STRUCTURE- WE ALSO
HAVE. TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF
OPPORTUNITIES WERE WERE VERY
CAREFUL WITH OUR FUNDS WE TRY TO
BE AS- CAREFUL STEWARDS OF THOSE
FUNDS. IN FOR EXAMPLE- AS A
RESULT OF TELEWORK WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO SHRINK OUR REAL ESTATE
FOOTPRINT BY THIRTY NINE
PERCENT. SAVING FUNDS THAT.
INTERNALLY OPERATE IN INTERNAL
OPERATING FUNDS. WE NEVER
INSTALLED PHONES IN OUR IN OUR
NEW SPACE WE SIMPLY GAVE HER
VERY CHEAP. AND INEXPENSIVE
MOBILE SOLUTION. ACCORDINGLY AN
OVERALL WE'VE WE'VE MANAGED TO
WE'VE LOOKED VERY CAREFULLY AND
KEPT OUR OPERATING COSTS LOW.
AND WE WILL FIND A WAY TO MEET
OUR MISSION OKAY. GREAT THANK
YOU YEAH THAT'S THE POINT I JUST
MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS REFINED
IT REGARDLESS OF THE FUND
BECAUSE IT'S- REALLY CRITICAL
FOR US TO MEET OUR TWENTY FOUR
SEVEN. THE ENERGY GOALS THANK
YOU- THIS IS A QUICK COMMENT I
KNOW THIS IS THIS VERY MINUTE I
THINK IN THE SCHEME OF THE
BUDGET BUT- IT IS. GOES BACK TO
THE RIGHT PAIR AND IDEA AND THE
STAFF WAS SAYING IT'S LIKE TWO
DOLLARS PER RATEPAYER TO THE
STATES SO AND I JUST. CAN'T
RESIST BUT YOU KNOW THIS MORNING
WE PASSED- THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED SOMETHING IS GOING TO
PROBABLY GET TO THE C. C. WHICH
IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER BURDEN ON
TOP OF- YOUR OTHER
RESPONSIBILITIES AND SO WE LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT. GETS
PAID FOR AS WELL. GREAT WITH
THAT WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE A WHOLE
OF THE REQUEST ON ON THIS ONE
AND- WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEXT WEEK
THANK YOU. DIFFICULT TO EARN I
WILL MOVE ON TO ISSUE TWENTY
SEVEN. THIS IMPLEMENTATION AND
TO HAVE THE BROADBAND
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING. BEYOND
WE WILL HEAR FROM THE CQC. I'M
PROBABLY CONSECUTIVE PETERSON.
ON M. INDIA DIRECTOR OSBORNE-
WHEN YOU'RE READING THIS OUR
LAST ISSUE- TODAY. I DON'T HAVE
ANY AND ALL START. IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE SO
JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF
THE BUDGET THE BUDGET PROPOSES
THE DEFERRAL OF FIVE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS AT THE CBC
FOR LAST MILE INFRASTRUCTURE
GRANTS- IN TWENTY TWENTY. THREE
TWENTY FOUR TO FUTURE YEARS. AND
IT ALSO PROPOSES A DEFERRAL-
FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE
BILLION BETWEEN TWENTY TO TWENTY
THREE AND TWENTY THREE TWENTY
FOUR TWO YEARS AS WELL-
IMPORTANTLY SO THE BUDGET
MAINTAINS ALL LAST MILE FUNDING
FOR BROADBAND FROM THE TWENTY
TWENTY ONE BUDGET PACKAGE-
BROADBAND PACKAGE. AND JUST KIND
OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON
HOW WE APPROACH THE DEFERRALS
ARE LARGELY DETERMINED BY THE
PROGRAMS WERE STILL IN THE
DEVELOPMENT PHASE. THEY HAD
AVAILABLE FUNDS FOLLOWING
PROGRAM EXPENDITURES AND THERE
IS POTENTIAL FEDERAL SUPPORT TO
SUPPORT A SUPPLEMENT THE CHEFS.
I AM WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER
TO THE C. P. C. I JUST KIND OF
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR BACKER AND
SENATORS THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS
AFTERNOON A SHIFTING GEARS TO
BROADBAND FOR ALL- I'M RACHEL
PETERSON EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION I'M JOINED BY
DIRECTOR ROB OSBORNE- DIRECTOR
PARK OUR COMMUNICATIONS
DIVISION. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONTINUING TO GET ENGAGEMENT IN
OUR BROADBAND PROGRAM. I HAVE AN
OVERVIEW OF OUR PROGRESS TOWARD
IMPLEMENTING THE LAST MILE
PORTION OF THE INITIATIVE HAPPY
TO WALK THROUGH THAT OR HAPPY TO
FOCUS IN IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS. IN THE INTEREST OF
TIME. OKAY YEAH QUESTIONS WOULD
BE GREAT LET'S HEAR. I GUESS
THAT'S IT RIGHT WHEN WE RETURN
RIGHT TO QUESTIONS- WHAT IS
ELLIE- HAVE ANY COMES THANK YOU
SIR. PRIME MINISTER WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE OUR
OFFICE RECENTLY PUBLISHED A
BRIEF ON BROADBAND
INFRASTRUCTURE- WHICH INCLUDES
AN UPDATED SPENDING PLAN AND THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED FUNDING
DELAYS FOR BOTH THE BROADBAND
LOAN LOSS RESERVE FUND. AS WELL
AS LAST MILE PROJECTS TOTALING
ONE POINT ONE TWO FIVE BILLION
DOLLARS. WE FIND THE PROPOSED
DELAYS TO BE PRUDENCE AND WORTHY
OF LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION
GIVING THEIR APPROVAL WOULD
MAINTAIN THE BULK OF THE FUNDING
IN THE ORIGINAL SPENDING PLAN.
ALSO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL FEDERAL
FUNDING- AT LEAST HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WILL BE
AVAILABLE FROM THE BROADBAND
EQUITY ACCESS AND DEPLOYMENT
PROGRAM. AND THE TWO PROGRAMS
FOR WHICH THESE DELAYS ARE
PROPOSED REMAIN IN PLANNING
EARLY IMPLEMENTATION WITH
SIGNIFICANT FUNDING REMAINING
FOR PROGRAM AWARDS IN THE NEAR
TERM. HOWEVER WE PROJECT THE
BUDGET PROBLEM WILL INCREASE BY
ABOUT SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS THAT
MAY REVISION AND SO THE STATE
LIKELY WILL BE UNABLE TO AFFORD.
THE OVERALL SPENDING LEVELS
PROPOSED IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
TWENTY FIVE THROUGH TWENTY
TWENTY SIX TWENTY SEVEN. SO AS A
RESULT THE DELAYED BROADBAND
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING A LIKELY
WILL NOT BE AFFORDABLE IN FUTURE
YEARS WITHOUT REDUCTIONS IN
OTHER AREAS. SO WE RECOMMEND THE
LEGISLATURE DIRECT
ADMINISTRATION TO PRIORITIZE THE
ENCUMBRANCE AN EXPENDITURE. OF
THE- TWO POINT NINE ONE BILLION
IN A. R. P. FISCAL RELIEF FUNDS.
AND REPORT MORE FREQUENTLY TO
THE LEGISLATURE ON THE
EXPENDITURE AND ENCUMBRANCE OF
THOSE FUNDS. ARE WE ALSO
RECOMMEND THE LEGISLATURE
EVALUATE THE UPDATED SPENDING
PLAN TO SEE HOW THE DIGITAL
FEDERAL FUNDS COULD SUPPLEMENT.
EXISTING AND OR PLANNED
APPROPRIATIONS. HOW AVAILABLE
GENERAL FUND MIGHT BE
PRIORITIZED AMONG EXISTING
PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS TO ACHIEVE
THE GOALS OF SP ONE FIFTY SIX.
AND HOW BASED ON THIS
PRIORITIZATION SPENDING DELAYS
AND OR REDUCTIONS COULD BE MADE.
WITH THE LEAST ADVERSE IMPACT ON
MEETING STATUTORY GOALS. I THINK
YOU I'M NOT SURE THAT WITH US IN
REGARDS WHEN LEADERS ON THIS
ISSUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR
CHAIRS SO LOOK- I KNOW THAT
WE'RE IN A CRAPPY BUDGET- THIS
YEAR SO LET'S JUST ALL BE BLUNT
ABOUT THAT BUT- LIVE IN AN AREA.
WHERE LARGE INCUMBENT UTILITIES
LIKE EIGHTEEN T. VERIZON
ENDORSED THE CABLE COMPANIES-
DON'T GIVE TWO FLIPS ABOUT
CONNECTING RESIDENTS TO DOESN'T
MAKE. FINANCIAL SENSE. SO WHAT
WE HEARD- ALL ALONG FROM THESE
LARGE CORPORATIONS IS THE
STATE'S NOT COMPARE TO GET THIS
DONE. FAST FORWARD TO THIS YEAR
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A
CRAPPY BUDGET SITUATION. WE'RE
LOOKING AT- FOR ALL FIVE HUNDRED
FIFTY MILLION. AT THE PC FOR
LAST MILE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS-
WHAT I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT
I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL AREN'T
DON'T NEED TO ASK. THE HONEST
ANSWER BUT- THAT THIS FIVE
HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION WON'T GET-
DEPLOYED. SO I WORRY NUMBER ONE
IS THAT WE ARE DEPLOYING ALL THE
MIDDLE MILE AND NOW WE HAVE
THESE RURAL POOR COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE CAN BE A CONNECT TO
THAT FIBER THIS GOING UP.
HIGHWAY ONE OH ONE FOR EXAMPLE.
SO I GOT TO BE CANDID I JUST
DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO
STAND IF WE HAVE SOLD THIS
PROGRAM. NOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA
SAY CALIFORNIANS IS JUST KIDDING
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONNECT YOU.
AND THAT DOESN'T WORK SO I THINK
THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS I DON'T
QUESTION IN THIS JUST A
STATEMENT. THAT WE'RE GOING TO
NEED TO BE A DEVELOP A STRATEGY
TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE
COMMUNITIES CONNECTED BECAUSE-
IT WILL BE. A ON ALL OF OUR
FACES THIS IS A BRIGHT THIS IS A
BIPARTISAN BILL ALONG WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION. AND THAT IS FIVE
HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION IN
DEFERRALS ARE ALSO A POTENTIAL
CUTS. WE CAN'T LET THIS MOVE
THIS IS AMERICA'S LARGEST PUBLIC
BROADBAND PROJECT AND WE HAVE TO
ENSURE THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE
ADVANCED. I'M HAPPY TO GET A
COMMENT BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE BUT THEN I HAVE SOME
VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON WHAT
MY COMMENTS JUST WORK- NOTHING
FURTHER SEND REQUIRE WE CONTINUE
PRIORITIZES INVESTMENT THEY'RE
NOT CATS RIGHT NOW THE DEFERRALS
OBVIOUSLY THE BUDGET MAY CHANGE
IN THE OUT YEARS WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE BUT- AND
AGAIN. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE-
CRUNCHY- BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT-
THIS FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY
MILLION. MOST LIKELY WON'T COME
BACK ESPECIALLY FOR LOOKING AT
AN ENHANCED DEFICIT SO MY
EDITORIAL- WHEN ASKED TO COMMENT
ON THAT. SO GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW
NOW- ON WINTER IF THE MIDDLE
MILE INTO SECTIONS WILL BE
DEPLOYED. HOW ARE THE LAST MILE
GUARANTEES. THAT WE HAVE ALREADY
GIVEN THE FEDS ARE PROFOUNDLY.
AND IN THE DEADLINES CAN BE MET
. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
SENATOR AND I'LL START AND THEN
TURNED TO DIRECTOR OSBORNE- AND
SO FOR THE C. P. U. C. TWO KEY
COMPONENTS OF MAKING SURE WE'RE
MEETING THOSE DEADLINES ARE IN
PROGRESS IN PART •EADY
COMPLETED AND IN PROGRESS. SO
THE FIRST WAS THE LOCAL AGENCY
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE GRANT
PROGRAM TOTALING FIFTY MILLION.
THOSE GRANTS HAVE LARGELY GONE
OUT THE DOOR- MORE THAN ONE
HUNDRED ENTITIES- APPLIED FOR
AND RECEIVED GRANTS. AND WE
THINK THOSE ARE PERFORMING THE
FUNCTION THAT THEY WERE INTENDED
TO PERFORM WHICH IS HELPING THE
LOCAL ENTITY THAT PLANS TO BUILD
A NETWORK. CONDUCTED THAT PRE
ENGINEERING PRE CONCEPTUAL PRE
WORK THAT ENABLES THEM TO PUT
TOGETHER A BETTER MORE
COMPETITIVE AND MORE REALISTIC
PACKAGE WHEN THEY DO APPLY FOR
FEDERAL FUNDING ACCOUNT SO
THAT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT'S
ALREADY IN MOTION. WE STARTED
ISSUING THOSE GRANTS- LAST
OCTOBER. THEN THE SECOND PART IS
THE FEDERAL FUNDING ACCOUNT MAP-
THAT WE THE CQC OF PUT OUT AS I
TESTIFIED TO YOU- A FEW WEEKS
AGO. WE MADE SOME TECHNICAL
MISSTEPS WITH THAT MAP AS WHEN
WE FIRST RELEASED THE FIRST
VERSION IN JANUARY WE SINCE HAVE
GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD
WE'VE SPOKEN WITH STAKEHOLDERS
WE'VE UPDATED THE DATA IN ORDER
TO CENTER IT MORE ON SOCIO
ECONOMICS IN LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES. AND ARE PREPARING
AN ON TRACK TO ISSUE THE NEXT
VERSION OF THAT MAP BY THE END
OF MARCH. THAT'S THE NEXT KEY
COMPONENT BECAUSE THEN IN APRIL
WE SPEAK WE WORK WITH LOCAL
ENTITIES THAT WISH TO PROVIDE TO
APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS- TO GET
READY TO UNDERSTAND THE MAP LOOK
AT THE UNSERVED AREAS AND USE
THEIR LATTER GRANT FUNDS TO
PREPARE THEIR APPLICATIONS. IN
MAY WE DO A SOFT LAUNCH OF OUR
GRANT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THEN
BY THE END OF THE JUNE END OF
JUNE THE GRANT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
IS OPEN AND READY TO ACCEPT
APPLICATIONS. SO THOSE KEY STEPS
THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
OUR KEY TO GETTING TO THOSE
PARDON ME OUR KEY TO GETTING THE
MONEY OUT THE DOOR IN ORDER TO
MEET THE FEDERAL- ENCUMBRANCE
AND EVENTUAL- CONSTRUCTION
REQUIREMENT WE HAVE TO DEADLINE
STARING US DOWN RIGHT TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY TWENTY SIX
YES. AND YOU THINK THAT WE'RE
GOING TO MEET THEM YES EVEN WITH
A- FINE DEFERRALS. YES HOW WHAT
DOES LITTLE MILES SO JUST TO
CLARIFY HERE- IN TERMS OF THE
FUNDING DELAYS IS OUR GENERAL
FIRE AND- I WAS PRESUMED TO
CONTROL SECTION OF ONE POINT
NINE SIX REMOVED ALL ARPA
FINDING- FROM B. C. B. C. TO
GENERAL FUND THE REMAINING
FEDERAL FUNDS IN CBC'S BUDGET
FOR LAST MILE CAPITAL PROJECTS
FUNDS. THOSE REHAB OR FEDERAL
CHOIR MEANT THAT THEY BE
ALLOCATED BY TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
BUT THEY NEED TO BE EXPANDED BY
TWENTY TWENTY SIX WHAT I JUST
SAID TONY CLARK ON TWENTY TWENTY
SIX RIGHT. ARE YOU TALKING LAST
MILE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE
MIDDLE MILE FOR THE OUR FUNDS.
SO I THINK THE SENATOR'S
QUESTION IS ABOUT LAST MILE- AND
YET THIS IS ALL IT THEY'RE ALL
CONNECTED RIGHT I MEAN TRULY D.
N. B. R. TO GET IT ALL DONE SO
YOU THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HIT THOSE DEADLINES. YES SENATOR
OKAY IN SO THEN AGAIN I AM NOT
AT ALL TRYING BECAUSE YOU KNOW
HOPE IN THE COMING OFFICE
COUNTRY JUST. DEEPLY CONCERNED
BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE WORKED
ON. DAY NIGHT WE HAD TO GET THIS
DONE INCLUDING AND I WANT TO BE
VERY CLEAR THE GOVERNOR WAS. WAY
OUT IN FRONT OF THIS AND I'M
WORKING HARD TO GET TO GET THE
DEAL DONE WHICH WERE REALLY
GRATEFUL FOR. AND WE ALREADY
KNOW THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM IS OVERSUBSCRIBED. SO
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE PROBABLY
ABOUT TWO BILLION SHORT OF WHERE
WE NEED TO BE ON LAST MILE. THAT
HAS SOME SOME PROJECTIONS. OF
WHERE WILL POTENTIALLY BE ON
WHAT THE- THE LAST MILE NEEDS
ARE GOING TO BE FOR COMMUNITIES.
DIRECTOR OSBORNE IS CLOSER TO
THAT OF. THOSE SPECIFIC
PROJECTIONS I THINK YOU'RE IN
THE BALLPARK BUT I'LL GET TO
HIM. YES THE LOOP INVESTMENT
MODEL THAT WE RAN- BACK LAST
YEAR- ESTIMATES ROUGHLY SIX
POINT THREE BILLION TO DO LAST
MILE USING ALL FIBER. AND WE
KNOW THAT. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT
GETTING OUT TO THE VERY FRINGES
OF. WHERE WE WOULD BUILD
NETWORK. PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE
LOOKING AT THE BEAD PROGRAM
GOING FORWARD. WHICH REQUIRES US
TO ESTABLISH A HIGH COST
THRESHOLD AT WHICH POINT WE
DECIDE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD
FIBRE. IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE
BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE'RE
PLANNING TO BUILD FIBRE TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE CAN GIVEN THE
FUNDS AND YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT
THE BEAT. UP PROGRAM HERE JUST A
MOMENT- IS IT LOOK I THINK THE
BOTTOM LINE IS IN AGAIN. I AM
NOT AT ALL I TRYING TO- BE
CURRENT YOU WITH YEAH BUT I-
WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT
ESPECIALLY RURAL AREAS OF THE
STATE. HIGH STREET TO POVERTY
RIGHT- HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT.
ABSOLUTELY DESPERATE OUT FOR
HIGH SPEED INTERNET. AND WE'RE
NEVER GOING TO BE SERVED BY
INCUMBENTS NEVER IT'S GOING TO
MEAN A PUBLIC OPTION. IN WHAT I
AM DEATHLY AFRAID OF IS THAT WE
HAVE. OVER PROMISED WE'RE GOING
TO UNDER DELIVER. I UNDERSTAND
THAT WE'RE FACING CHALLENGE
BUDGET. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT
BUDGETS ARE VALUE STATEMENTS ANY
WE'RE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO
FOLLOW THROUGH. ON THIS
COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE
ESPECIALLY TO THOSE IN URBAN
AREAS THAT ARE EITHER UNDER
SERVED. IN OUR RURAL AREAS THAT
ARE UNDERSERVED OR UNSERVED. SO
I THINK THAT DID THE CONCERN
THAT I HAVE IN REGARDS TO THE
FEDERAL FUNDS. IS THAT- DOLLARS
OR EVEN ROLL OUT I THOUGHT
THOUGH. UNTIL JANUARY TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR CORRECT. YES ONCE WE
START TO RECEIVE APPLICATIONS
JUST THE TIMING WERE ESTIMATING
JANUARY OR JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR
OKAY. ALL RIGHT SO JUST ON THE
ON THE BEAT FINDING AGAIN I
APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE OF. THE
CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. SO- HOW DO
YOU EXPECT TO ADMINISTER THE
FUNDS. GIVEN THE TIME IT'S TAKEN
TO BE ABLE TO GET THE RULE SET-
ESPECIALLY WITH THE FEDERAL
FUNDING ACCOUNT- GRANTED IT HAS
TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BUT
ON IT WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING.
AT YOU KNOW QUITE A RAPID PACE
IN ORDER TO SET UP THE RULE
MAKING WHICH WILL SERVE AS THE
VEHICLE FOR SETTING THOSE RULES.
SO JUST BEFORE WE APPEARED
BEFORE YOU ON MARCH SEVENTH THE
COMMISSION OPENED A NEW RULE
MAKING ON BEAT IT THAT WILL
SERVICE THAT VEHICLE. AND
THERE'S AN ASSIGNED COMMISSIONER
AND ASSIGNED JUDGE AND IT'S
READY TO ROLL ON GIVE ANY
DETAILS YOU CAN SHARE. YES SO
THE BEAD PROGRAM WE RECEIVED
SOME INITIAL PLANNING FUNDS AND
WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF-
PROCUREMENT FOR CONSULTING
SERVICES TO DO THE FIVE YEAR
ACTION PLAN WHICH IS SOMETHING
IT'S AS HIGH LEVEL STRATEGIC
PLAN THAT WHAT LAY OUT HOW WE
PLAN TO USE THE BEAD FUNDS TO
CLOSE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE. THE B.
PROGRAM REQUIRES A 25% MATCH IN
MOST MOST CASES SO IT CAN BE
COMBINED WITH THE FEDERAL
FUNDING ACCOUNT OR WITH C. S. AT
FOUR OR PRIVATE EQUITY MONEY-
AND SO THAT BE PLANNED THAT FIVE
YEAR ACTION PLAN IS DUE AROUND
MID AUGUST. WE WON'T KNOW THE
ALLOCATION FOR CALIFORNIA
PROBABLY UNTIL AROUND JUNE WE
WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS
UNTIL WE'VE GOT SUBMITTED WHAT'S
CALLED AN INITIAL PROPOSAL WHICH
IS DUE A HUNDRED EIGHTY DAYS
AFTER WE GET THE ALLOCATION
ANNOUNCEMENT IN JUNE SO. ROUGHLY
BY DECEMBER WILL BE ABLE TO TAP
INTO THE FIRST 20% OF THOSE BEAT
FUNDS FOR LAST MILE. OKAY THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT I THINK
THIS CHAIR THIS IS GOING TO NEED
TO BE I KNOW THIS IS AN ISSUE.
THAT IS BIPARTISAN SENATE- THIS
IS AN ISSUE THAT- HAS BEEN. A
DEEP CONCERN AT LEAST ON OUR
SIDE IN OUR CAUCUS. OF MAKING
SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO
FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THOSE
COMMITMENTS. I ALSO KNOW NOT TO
WANT TO APPLY THAT IT'S NOT A
PRIORITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO HIS
COMMISSION. DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
IS I KNOW IT IS. I DO THINK IT'S
GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US SPEAKING
IN AN INNOVATIVE FASHION.
BEAUTIFUL THROUGH THE
COMMITMENT. AND AGAIN WITH THIS.
BUDGET SHORTFALL THAT WE HAVE.
PLUS I KNOWING HOW MUCH WE'RE
GONNA NEED TO BE A COMPLETE ALL
THE LAST MILE PROJECTS ABOVE AND
BEYOND IF WE HAD A STATUS QUO
BUDGET YEAR. TWO BILLION MORE
PLUS. OVERSUBSCRIBED TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE FUND- WE GOT TO KEEP
IT AT LEAST AS WELL. IN ON HOW
TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE THIS
YEAR. THE LAST TWO PIECE- WOULD
JUST MENTION THIS OUR LAST
CONVERSATION. WITH DEPARTMENT OF
TECHNOLOGY THEY'RE STILL WAITING
THERE TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT
ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDS MAY BE
COMING IN. FOR THE MIDDLE MILE.
ODD TO BE AT A POTENTIALLY BACK
FILL ANY OF THE GENERAL FUND
SHARE IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON
THAT ON THE MIDDLE MILE OF
ADDITIONAL- INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS
COMING IN FROM THE FEDS. THAT
WOULD BE OF ASSISTANCE ON THE
DEPLOYMENT OF THOSE TEN THOUSAND
MILES. SO I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE
FOR YOU- BUT I'M HAPPY TO FIND
ONE AND GET ONE. IF MR MONROE'S
BEEN GREAT YEAH- ON THAT- I JUST
WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS. IN AND
OUT OF THAT WORD YOUR MOUTH BUT-
THAT COULD ALSO BE A STRATEGY
OF. SCENE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL
DOLLARS THAT WERE COMING FROM
THE FED SAID THEY COULD HELP US.
AGAIN MY WORDS BACK FILL A WHAT
SOME OF THOSE COMMITMENTS WORK
CORRECT ME I THINK THAT COULD BE
A STRATEGY. THAT INITIAL YEAH
THE FEDERAL POT FOR MIDDLE MILE
IS CONSIDERABLY SMALLER THOUGH
IN FROM THE I. J. SO IT'S- I'M
NOT SURE WHAT CALIFORNIA SHARE
WILL BE OF THAT IN OUR POTENTIAL
BUT- HOPEFULLY 12% RIGHT ME FOR.
LOOKING AT. STANDARD WHAT WE
SEEN IT'S ABOUT 12% TYPICALLY
YES IF NOT LARGER. BUT IT
MINIMUM 12% KNOCK ON WOOD. SO
MR. WHEN I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN.
AND HOW WE CAN. CONTINUE TO BURN
DOWN THE AND THEN COME BACK ON
THE OBVIOUSLY THAT WE WILL.
AGAIN I. THE PATIENCE WITH THE
QUESTIONS- WITH OUR PANELISTS
REALLY GRATEFUL YOU'RE HERE. AND
ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
THE PC WHO'S- ENGAGING WITH OUR
BROADBAND WORKING GROUP OF THE
SENATE- ALONG WITH A C. T. AS
WELL SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MISTER CHAIR. OF ABSOLUTELY SIR
DAUDA ELEVEN JUST. I WANT TO SAY
THAT TO. THIS ISSUE I'M NOT
GOING TO BE LABOR EVERYTHING
THAT- CINEMA WHERE DID WE OUR
DISTRICT SIM SIMILAR IN.
CONSTITUENCIES AND WE'VE BEEN
WORKING IN A BIPARTISAN FASHION
FOR SOME TIME- SINCE WE'VE BOTH
BEEN HERE BUT I WAS WAS A- IT
WAS HIS DATA BE CRUNCH IT WAS MY
DAY TO BE CRUNCHY WHEN WE WERE
IN THE- ENERGY COMMITTEE AND SO.
JUST WANT TO SAY- WE LOOK
FORWARD TO LIKE GETTING THIS
DONE IT IS IT IS A HIGH
PRIORITY. AND WE KNOW THAT
BUDGETS ARE TIGHT AND- I'M- GLAD
TO HEAR THAT YOU WENT BACK AND
WAS ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE-
PROGRAMS UP AND GOING BECAUSE
THE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND
QUITE FRANKLY. EVERY DAY WE WAIT
TO GET THE MONEY OUT AS
INFLATION IS HAPPENING IN THE
PROJECT'S COST GO UP
DRAMATICALLY AND- THIS IS THE
GRASS IF. PROGRAM FOR SUCH A
SHORT TIME WE'RE TALKING. THE
TEN THOUSAND MILES I THINK IT IS
IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT. BOOTS ON THE GROUND
GETTING IT DONE. WELL THANK YOU
BOTH MY COLLEAGUES. FOR PART OF
THE FOCUS HERE AND I KNOW JUNE
IS IMPORTANT DEADLINE BUT- ECHO
CENTER DARLENE THANKS FOR THAT.
THE WORK WE KNOW YOU ARE WORKING
HARD ON THIS- BUT OBVIOUSLY
NUMBER OF. A BIG CONCERNS- THAT
WILL CONTINUE TO. FOCUS ON. BUT
WITH THAT I DO WE DO WE DO A
HOLD OPEN RECOMMENDATION HERE
SO- WE WILL. WRAP UP ON THAT
ISSUE AND ACCEPT THE
RECOMMENDATION THANK YOU WILL
LOOK FOR THE FOLLOWING UP. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
HERE IT'S GOOD TO SEE THANK YOU
. WELL THANK YOU I WILL NOW MOVE
ON TO A PUBLIC COMMENT AND-
WE'LL START WITH ANYONE IN THE
ROOM WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN FOR SPRING WHITE WITH
KP PUBLIC AFFAIRS ON BEHALF OF
ALL THROUGH IN CALIFORNIA. WE
ARE A TRADE GROUP OF LAUGHTER
WHEN DEVELOPERS INDUSTRY LEADERS
IN TECHNOLOGY AND WE SUPPORT
RESPONSIBLE IN THE WASHER WIND.
SPEED I'M TWENTY FOUR. REGARDING
THE PROPOSED ENERGY TRAILER
BILL. SPECIFICALLY THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM. WE DO
SUPPORT THE CENTER BECAME A
PROPOSAL. WE THINK IT WILL HELP
PROVIDE SOME CERTAINTY IN THE
PROCESS THAT'S LONG NEEDED. THE
CHALLENGE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS
THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH
UNCERTAINTY. WE NEED TO ACT
QUICKLY TO ESTABLISH A
PERMITTING STRUCTURE. WE NEED TO
DEVELOP PORTS WE DO HAVE A WORK
FORCE. HAVE TRANSMISSION LINES
ALL THESE THINGS GO TOGETHER.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A HOUSE OF
CARDS THE ONE THAT'S AT THE TOP
IS PROCUREMENT AND WITHOUT THAT
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THE OTHER
THINGS THAT WILL HELP BUILD INTO
THIS NEED FOR ALL THE- THINGS
THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO GET THIS
INDUSTRY STARTED. THIS WHY WE
SUPPORT THE MINISTRY'S PROPOSAL
IT'S NOT LIKE. THE PREVIOUS FELL
BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON
SOCIAL SECURITY FOR. THOSE HAVE
ALL BEEN MANDATES FOR ONE
SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY THIS BILL IS
AN OPTION. IT'S SANDIE W. ARE
YOU COULD DO IT THE ONLY OF CPC
SAYS. YOU CAN DO IT AFTER THEY
DO THEIR ANALYSIS SO THERE IS A
STOP GO. READ PROCESS IT'S NOT
JUST AUTOMATICALLY GOING PROCURE
THESE LONELY TIME RESOURCES.
DEGREE THERE NEED TO BE SOME YOU
KNOW NEVER PROBABLY NOTING DOWN
OF THE DEFINITIONS NEED TO BE
CLARIFIED. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW WE
SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL LOOK FOR TO
WORKING WITH YOU MISTER CHAIR.
THEY WON THE ON THE ON THE DYESS
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND LEADERSHIP
REPORT. WORKING THANK YOU GREAT
THANK YOU. HI MELISSA CORE. ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA WIND
ENERGY ASSOCIATION I THINK I CAN
PROBABLY JUST ECHO ALL OF THE
COMMENTS. OF THE OFFSHORE WIND
ORGANIZATION CALLED FOR AN
OFFSHORE WIND. ODDLY VERY MATURE
IN SUPPORT OF THE BUDGET TRAILER
BILL SPECIFICALLY THE CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT. HE'S THE-
SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE
BENEFITS IT'LL HAVE TOWARDS
OFFSHORE WIND. SO WE HOPE THAT
YOU'LL SUPPORT THAT PROPOSAL ON
AS IT MOVES FORWARD THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU CARE FOR A
CHARITABLE DEAL CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY CHOICE ASSOCIATION-
FIRST OFF YOU WANT TO APPLAUD
THE GOVERNOR'S COMMITMENT TO
ENERGY SECURITY- CERTAINLY
SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. FOR HIM.
FOR US FOR EVERYBODY. HOWEVER WE
DO HAVE THREE SIGNIFICANT
CONCERNS. WITH THE BCP. ON
ENERGY RELIABILITY FIRST CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT. WE DON'T YET
UNDERSTAND WHAT PROBLEM THEY'RE
TRYING TO SOLVE- WE DON'T SEE A
PROCUREMENT PROBLEM. LLCS ARE
OUT THERE FOR CARRYING IN THE
LAST MID TERM RELIABILITY. OF
PROCUREMENT ORDER. ANALYSES MET
THE REQUIREMENTS. IN FACT THE
CCA'S OVER PROCURED BY FIVE
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS. SO WE'RE NOT
SEEING A PROBLEM. I WOULD LIKE
TO CORRECT. ONE OF THE COMMENTS
MADE. THERE WAS A MENTION OF.
ELLIS IS NOT MEETING THE- TWENTY
TWENTY SIX A LONG TERM. LONG
LEAD TIME RELIABILITY. A
RESOURCES- AND- THAT THEY HAD TO
MOVE IT TO TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT
THAT'S NOT EXACTLY ACCURATE-
MANY OF OUR MEMBERS WANTED
BECAUSE THOSE RESOURCES BY
TWENTY TWENTY SIX. THE
DEVELOPERS WERE READY SO THAT
THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE TO BE
MOVED TO TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT-
BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST
REALISTIC TIME. THAT WE COULD
MEET THOSE RESOURCES AND I'M NOT
EVEN SURE TWENTY TWENTY IT'S
CORRECT RIGHT MAYBE LONGER THAN
THAT BUT BUT CHARACTERIZING AS
ELSIE'S ARE STRUGGLING. IT'S NOT
REALLY A FAIR REPRESENTATION- SO
WE'RE NOT SEEING A PROCUREMENT
PROBLEM BUT WE ARE SEEN AS AN
ERROR INTERCONNECTION. AND
TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS SO AN
INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM AND
SENATOR DOLLY MENTION THAT ON
THE FLOOR THIS MORNING HE'S
MENTIONED IT TODAY. AGAIN IN
COMMITTEE. WE POLLED OUR MEMBERS
WE HAVE SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY
THREE MEGAWATTS OF CLEAN
RENEWABLE RESOURCES READY TO BE
OUT OF THE GREAT RIGHT NOW BUT
WE CANNOT BECAUSE OF
INTERCONNECTION DELAYS. THAT'S
SIGNIFICANT- AND AS OUR MEMBERS
CONTINUE TO GO OUT AND PICK HERE
BECAUSE. THE PC WANTS US AND WE
NEED TO. THAT'S ONLY GOT A THE
ONLY GET GREATER IF WE SOLVE IT
IN A- PROBLEMS ON THE ISSUE OF
TRANSMISSION. AS MENTIONED WE
WANT TO GO OUT AND PROCURE. OUR
MEMBERS ARE READY WILLING AND
ABLE TO GO OUT AND PROCURE
OFFSHORE WIND NOW. BUT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST IT'S
INFLICT SIGNIFICANT TIME. AND
FOR US WE THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR
FOCUS AND ENERGY SHOULD BE RIGHT
NOW. IS ON HOW WE RESOLVE THOSE
PROBLEMS. I'M NOT CREATING A NEW
MECHANISM- OR- A NEW CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ENTITY BECAUSE WE
DON'T SEE HOW THAT SOLVES THE
PROBLEM. ISSUE NUMBER TWO IS- IF
I CAN THIRTY SECONDS ON BEHALF
OF C. MUA ON ON ISSUE NUMBER.
TWO BECAUSE WE BOTH KIND OF
SHARE IT. IT'S THE ARI CAPACITY
PAYMENTS SO THE ISSUE THERE IS
WE BOTH FEEL STUPID DUPLICATIVE.
WERE BEING YOU KNOW PENALIZED
FOR THE SAME THING. AND WHEN I
SAY WE IT'S NOT US RIGHT THAT
GETS PASSED ON TO CONSUMERS.
YOUR CONSTITUENTS THEY'RE GONNA
PAY TWICE FOR THE SAME THING.
AND THERE'S NO NEW RESOURCES
THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE GRID
THAT. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL
ENERGY SECURITY. SO WE'RE AT A
LOSS AS TO WHY WE'RE DOING THAT-
THERE'S BEEN A MARKET ANALYSIS
DONE ON THIS THE INFORMATION'S
BEEN SHARED WITH THE CPC. C. C.
CHI SO ACADEMICS AND MANY OF THE
LEGISLATIVE STUFF WE HAD A
MEETING LAST MONTH WITH ALL
THAT. AND THE REALITY IS THE
MARKET IS SHORT. THE PRODUCT IS
NOT THERE TO BUY. AND WE'RE
BEING ASKED TO GO BY WE TRY WE
CAN'T. WE GET PENALIZED. THAT'S
NOT SOLVING ANY PROBLEM THERE
AND SO WE REALLY THINK THAT THAT
PROPOSAL NEEDS TO BE. REVISITED
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU INTO A
DID RAISE THAT TODAY APPRECIATE
THOSE. OF BOTH THOSE COMMENTS.
EXCEPT HELLO MAGGIE MUNSON ON
BEHALF OF THE AGRICULTURAL
ENERGY CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION
SPEAKING TODAY ON ISSUE TWENTY
TWO. AND SPECIFICALLY THE FOOD
PRODUCTION INVESTMENT PROGRAM AT
THE CDC. OUR VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
THAT PROGRAMME IT'S BEEN VERY
POPULAR AND VERY EFFECTIVE. IN
GETTING ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND
DECARBONISATION PROGRAMMES. A
BUILT FOR FOOD PROCESSORS IN THE
STATE SO WE JUST. ASK THAT THAT
CONTINUE. TO BE SUPPORTED. I
WOULD ALSO SO. TO THE CALL.
AROUND REPAIR IMPACTS TODAY AND
JUST ASK THAT THAT CONTINUE TO
BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION OF
THIS COMMITTEE. THANK YOU THANK
YOU. HELLO I'M- EXCUSE ME TERRY
MEMBERS MY NAME'S MAKAYLA ELDER
ON BEHALF OF THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE CHARGING ASSOCIATION IN
CAL START HERE TO SPEAK ON
BEHALF OF ISSUE TWENTY THREE
THAT SEVEN BUCKS- THERE'S A
BUDGET PACKAGE. WERE
APPRECIATIVE OF THE GOVERNMENT
AT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED-
PROPOSE ON THOSE THAT PACKAGE WE
FEEL THAT IT'S INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT- TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO
CLEAN TRANSPORTATION AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES- AS
WELL AS DECARBONISING
DECARBONISING OUR-
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. AND WE
FEEL THAT THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT
IN REACHING THE STATE'S CLIMATE
GOALS AS WELL WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS THE STATE FACES A DEFICIT
BUT WE IMPLORE THE LEGISLATURE
TO. REFRAIN FROM ANY FURTHER
CUTS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
ANY GOVERNMENT ON BEHALF OF
VALLEY CLEAN AIR NOW HERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE HUNDRED
AND TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
FOR CLEAN CARS FOR ALL INCLUDED
IN THE SET. UP BUDGET PROPOSAL
FROM THE GOVERNOR AND
ADDITIONALLY REALLY EXCITED TO
SEE THE ADMINISTRATION ENGAGING
ON THE REAUTHORIZATION OF CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION FEES WERE VERY
EXCITED TO WORK WITH BOTH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE
LEGISLATURE. TO ENSURE THAT
THOSE- FEES CAN CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT CRITICAL- CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
SHERRIN MEMBERS RECOMMEND
BECAUSE ON BEHALF OF THE UNION
OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS WE FEEL
THAT THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD
UPHOLD THE SAP COMMITMENTS MADE
IN PREVIOUS BUDGET CYCLES TO THE
GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. AND
ADVANCED SUSTAINED FUNDING
SOLUTIONS WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU TO RE AUTHORIZE
THE EIGHTY EIGHT FUNDING WHILE
ALSO ENSURING THAT THESE FUNDS
ARE PRIORITIZED. FOR ADVANCING
CLEAN AIR AND FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES AND FOR ZERO
EMISSION TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE
MOST COST EFFECTIVE IN PREVALENT
IN THE STATE WHICH IS CURRENTLY
BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
AGENCY SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE
GIVEN DISCRETION ON
INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING IF
CERTAIN TECHNOLOGIES TAKE OFF
UNEXPECTEDLY BUT FOR NOW CARVE
OUTS FOR HYDROGEN FUND OF
FUELING DIVERTS FUNDING AWAY
FROM CHARGING WHICH GIVES THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF SERVICE
ON THE ROAD TODAY. AND THOSE
PROJECTED TO BE ON THE ROAD IN
THE FUTURE. ADDITIONALLY ON
BEHALF OF LEADING H. CALIFORNIA
PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE FUNDING
PROPOSAL FOR THE FEDERAL
BROADBAND DOLLARS WE ENCOURAGE
THE C. P. U. C. IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY TO
INCLUDE THE PERSPECTIVE. OF
OLDER ADULTS IN THE STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS. BROADBAND NOT ONLY
PREVENTS ISOLATION IN THAT
POPULATION IT CAN BE ESSENTIAL
IN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR HEALTH
TEAM. HEALTH CARE TEAMS AS WELL
THERE ARE SENIOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING COMMUNITIES WITHOUT
ACCESS BOTH IN THE RURAL PARTS
OF OUR STATE BUT ALSO IN
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON KEREN
MEMBERS TRICIA GERINGER WITH
AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIA HERE IN SUPPORT OF A
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
PROGRAM CALLED THE FOOD
PRODUCTION INVESTMENT PROGRAM
FF. THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET
ALLOCATED. FORTY MILLION FOR
THIS PRIDE OF PROJECT AND
PROGRAM IN TWENTY THREE TWENTY
FOUR AND WE'RE STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT OF THAT. IT IS
CONSIDERABLY HELPING FOOD
PROCESSORS BASED RIGHT HERE IN
CALIFORNIA TO CONSIDERABLY
REDUCE ENERGY USE. THROUGH AND
THE LOWER CARBON EMISSIONS
THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION OF
ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES AND
IMPRESSIVELY 82% OF THOSE
PROJECTS ARE GOING INTO
DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME.
COMMUNITIES TO LOWER. EMISSIONS
AND IMPROVE AIR QUALITY FOR
PRIORITY POPULATIONS AND GOING
TO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED IN A
PRIOR HEARING STARTS HERE. THE
RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE
STATE IS A RATHER SIGNIFICANT
AND SUBSTANTIAL AND THAT THE
FOOD PRODUCTION INVESTMENT
PROGRAM. IS THAT PLACING IN THE
TOP TEN OF ALL OF THE HEALTHY
CLIMATE INVESTMENT PROGRAMS WITH
REGARD TO COST PER TON OF GHG
AND TOTAL REDUCTIONS OF GHG. AND
SO WITH THAT WE VERY MUCH HOPE
THAT THE CONFLICT MANY WILL
SUPPORT FORTY MILLION FOR THIS
PROGRAM. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU.
APPRECIATE ALL THOSE- THAT WE
HERE IN PERSON WE WILL HAVE-
PURCHASE WAS ON THE PHONE NOW
AGAIN THE NUMBER EIGHT SEVEN
SEVEN. TWO TWO SIX EIGHT ONE SIX
THREE ACCESS CODE SIX NINE FOUR
EIGHT NINE THREE ZERO GIVEN THE-
TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT-
EACH PERSON TO ONE MINUTES. ON
MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT WHEN
READY. PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO FOR ANY COMMENTS WE'LL GO
TO LINE THIRTY EIGHT PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES GOOD AFTERNOON MY
NAME IS KRISH OTHERS I'M WITH
COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR AS WELL
THE INVEST IN CLEAN AIR CAMPAIGN
OF CHARGE AHEAD CALIFORNIA. WE
HAVE A GOVERNOR LEGISLATURE TO
FIND ALTERNATE TO THE MASSIVE
CUTS THE CLEAN TRANSPORTATION AS
SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THE
COMMUNITY WITH A SIXTY EIGHT
YEAR SHORTER LIFESPAN IN LARGE
PART DUE IN LARGE PART DUE TO
AIR POLLUTION. IT'S JUST A
MATTER OF ONLY CARING ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT AND SUGGESTED
EARLIER IN COMMITTEE HEARING BUT
ALSO ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH.
FURTHER WE BOTH LOVE GOVERNOR
LEGISLATURE TO PRIVATIZE THE
FOLLOWING POINTS WITH THE
STATE'S LIMITED PRIVATE DOLLARS.
VERSUS EQUITY CALIFORNIA SPRITE
PRIORITIZE ITS LIMITED RESOURCES
TO MAXIMIZE INVESTMENTS THAT
BENEFIT OUR MOST VULNERABLE
CALIFORNIANS AND IMPROVE AIR
QUALITY. THIS INCLUDES MEDIUM
AND HEAVY DUTY INCENTIVE
PROGRAMS CLEAN MOBILITY
TRANSCATHETER PROGRAM OF THE
EQUITY FOCUS LIGHT DUTY PROGRAMS
LIKE CLEAN CARS FOR ALL. NOTHING
TO MAXIMIZE AIR QUALITY BENEFITS
AS CALIFORNIA'S HOME TO THE
DIRTIEST AIR IN THE NATION WITH
LOW INCOME AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES TAKING THE BRUNT OF
THE IMPACT. WE SUPPORT AT EIGHT
ONE EIGHTEEN REAUTHORIZATION
WITH USING THE EQUITY FRAMEWORK
NEGOTIATED OVER THE PAST FEW
YEARS AS A STARTING POINT. WE
ARE ALSO LEERY OF POTENTIAL CAR
ABOUT. WE ALSO WITH A BRIEF
CONCERNS ABOUT USING COST
EFFECTIVENESS IS THE SOLE METRIC
OF THESE PROGRAMS REQUIRE. A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CASE
MANAGEMENT- GIVEN THE
POPULATIONS THEY SERVE. WE ALSO
WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT THE-
CLEAN MOBILITY PROGRAMMES DID
NOT GET A GREAT AMOUNT OF
FUNDING LAST YEAR. IF FOR
EXAMPLE- THE CLEAN MOBILITY
VOUCHER PROGRAM GOT A THIRTY
THREE MILLION DOLLAR OUT.
APPROPRIATION AND THAT MONEY WAS
EXHAUSTED. IN THE DAY THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU THANKS
REASON HOUSE IN A- THE MOTHER
HAVE ANY IN QUEUE. BUTTON OKAY
UP NEXT NEXT CALL PLEASE. AT
NINE THIRTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. NOT REALLY BECAUSE WHAT THE
FLYING ON TO ITEM TODAY TWENTY
FOUR TWENTY FIVE OUR FIRST
COMPREHENSIVE EXAM ARE ONE OF
THE OFFSHORE WIND DEVELOPERS IN
MORRO BAY. THANK YOU
MINISTRATION ON CENTRALIZED
PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL IT REALLY
APPRECIATED THE DIALOGUE THAT I
WOULD OTHERWISE. ALIGN OUR
COLLEAGUE- ARE COMMON WITH THOSE
OF- BRAIN LIGHT UP SHORT WHEN
CALIFORNIA. AND THEN BACK IN AND
ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO COLLISION AND
CALIFORNIA HUNDRED BUSINESS
ACCOUNT BOOK. ONE EXPRESS OUR
GRATITUDE FOR THE B. B. CREAM
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM THE
TWENTY FOURTEEN RE AUTHORIZATION
A LOT OF A LAUNCH THAT STATE
HYDROGEN FUELING NETWORK. BUT IT
CONDITIONER MONAHAN NOTED TODAY
THE HYDROGEN FEELING THAT WORK
WELL AND GET YOU THE PATIENCE.
ONE THIRTY THREE THANK YOU
YOU'RE ASKING THE LEGISLATURE TO
CONTINUE SUPPORT CARD HOLDER
DONE BY ALLOCATING THIRTY
PERCENT. UP FROM 20% CAN NOW
FINISH THE BUILD OUT OF A STATE
WIDE AND PROPOSITION FEELING OUT
THERE. AND BE. MUCH SENATOR.
THANK YOU NEXT CALL. THANK EIGHT
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD SENATOR I
THANK YOU FOR TIME TODAY. MY
NAME IS KING I'M THE QUEEN
ENERGY. WITH ENVIRONMENT
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENT
CALIFORNIA IS ALSO PART OF THE
INVESTING CLEAN AIR CAMPAIGN
WITH TARGET HAD CALIFORNIA. THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET CUTS BILLIONS
FROM QUEEN TRANSPORTATION
PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS THE STATE
CRITICAL AIR POLLUTION PROBLEM.
CALIFORNIA HAS SOME OF THE WORST
AIR QUALITY IN THE COUNTRY OVER
90% OF PEOPLE LIVE IN A PLACE
WHERE THE AIR IS UNSAFE TO GREET
YOU. WE MUST DO MORE TO ADDRESS
THIS MAJOR HEALTH ISSUE. THE
BUDGET PROPOSAL ALSO CUTS CLEAN
ENERGY PROGRAMS THAT ARE SO
IMPORTANT INCLUDING VITAL HOME
BATTERY STORAGE INCENTIVES. WE
URGE YOU TO MAKE YOUR CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION AND- CLEAN ENERGY
PROMISES HALL AGAIN. YOU CAN DO
THIS BY RESTORING THE ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM TO
ENCOURAGE MORE BIKING AND
WALKING AND RESTORING
INVESTMENTS IN THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE TRANSITION. YOU CAN ALSO
SUPPORT CLEAN ENERGY THROUGH
CENTRAL PROCUREMENT OF LONG LEAD
TIME DIVERSE RESOURCES. WE WANT
TO ENSURE THESE RESOURCES
SUPPORT PROJECTS LIKE GEO
THERMAL AND OFFSHORE WIND AND DO
NOT INCLUDE FOSSIL FUELS OR
OTHER DIRTY FORMS OF ENERGY.
IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
THESE CLEAN ENERGY PROJECTS
WHILE MAINTAINING CRITICAL
SUPPORT FOR SUCCESSFUL CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION AND CLEAN ENERGY
PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT CALLER. ONE FIFTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
ARE NOT YOUR HERNANDEZ ON BEHALF
OF THE UTILITY REFORM NETWORK OR
TURN. ON CALLING ON BEHALF OF
THE- CALIFORNIA RICH PAYMENT
PROGRAM WE URGE THIS COMMITTEE
THE LEGISLATURE. TO REJECT THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. TO ATTRACT
FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
FOR THIS PROGRAM- CALIFORNIA
RATEPAYERS WERE SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPACTED BY CODING GOT BEHIND ON
THEIR PAYMENTS. NOT JUST WITHIN
THE TIME PERIOD THAT WAS
COVERED- IN THE INITIAL- PROGRAM
BUT BUT BEYOND. SO WE URGE THE
LEGISLATURE TO SIMPLY EXPAND.
THE RELEVANT DATE. THAT'S ONE OF
THE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE
SOME FUNDING TO HELP WITH THEIR-
UTILITY BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU NEXT COURT. ONE THIRTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME SECURE CARTER WITH
YOUR CLUB CALIFORNIA. ACCORDING
ITEM ONE WE URGE THE LEGISLATURE
TO RESTORE AND PROBABLY ALLOCATE
FUNDING FOR SPECIES A GLOBAL
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
PROGRAM. TO PROMOTE HEALTHY
RESILIENT HOME. ADDRESS HEALTH
ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH GAS
INFRASTRUCTURE AND APPLIANCES.
FOR CALIFORNIA TO TRANSITION TO
A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY. THE
PROGRAM IS CRITICAL TO
PROTECTING LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES FROM FINANCIAL
STRESS ASSOCIATED WITH BEING
TETHERED TO EATING GAS
INFRASTRUCTURE HEALTH HARMING
POLLUTANTS FROM DIRTY FUEL
SOURCES. AND INEFFICIENT GAS
SYSTEM IN UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES FOR THESE REASONS WE
URGE THE LEGISLATURE TO RETAIN
CRITICAL FUNDS FOR THE CONTROL
BUILDING. DECARBONIZATION
PROGRAM THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT CALLER. FIND
SIXTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS GLENN PERIL ON BEHALF OF
THE STATE WATER CONTRACTORS-
WITH REGARD TO ISSUE NUMBER
TWENTY TWO. ONE EXPRESS
APPRECIATION THE THUNDER DOLLY
FOR I LIKE THE ORVILLE PUMP
STORAGE ISSUE EARLIER IN THE
HEARING WE ENCOURAGE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE'S APPROVAL OF SOUTH
PACIFIC ITEM OUTSIDE THAT. IN
LIGHT OF THE LEADS THAT YOU CAN
ACT THE TEN TWENTY LAST YEAR THE
TWO SEPARATE OF 1100% RENEWABLE
AND ZERO CARBON GOALS FOR STATE
AGENCIES INCLUDING THE STATE
WATER PROJECT. THE TWENTY THIRTY
FIVE THE WATER PUMP STORAGE
PROJECT AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT
OF THAT GOAL ACHIEVEMENT. AN
ACCELERATED TIMELINE SUPPORT
LEVEL OF URGENCY TO APPROVE AND
RAPIDLY ADVANCE. CONSTRUCTION OF
THAT PROJECT AND USUALLY THE OR
THE OPEN SOURCE PROJECT WILL
PROVIDE. VALUABLE ENERGY STORAGE
PUBLIC BENEFITS TO HELP IMPROVE
STATEWIDE GRID RELIABILITY AND
STABILITY WE REALLY ENCOURAGE
YOUR YOUR PROMPT ACTION ON THAT
ITEM. ADDITIONAL TWENTY FOUR. IF
THERE IS MOMENTUM TO CONTINUE
EXPLORING THE DEPARTMENT OF
WATER RESOURCES AS A POTENTIAL
CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT ENERGY
ENTITY. WE ENCOURAGE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE TO STRONGLY INSURE
THAT THERE ARE APPROPRIATE
FIREWALL BETWEEN GW ARE
CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT ROLE AND
THE CONVENTIONAL IN CORNWALL AND
THE OPERATOR OF STATE WATER
PROJECT HE W. R. HAS A CRITICAL
ROLE IN PROVIDING WATER SUPPLY
RELIABILITY. AND RESILIENCE FOR
MORE THAN TWENTY SEVEN MILLION
CALIFORNIANS THROUGH THE STATE
WATER PROJECT. WE WANT TO ENSURE
THAT ANY NEW CENTRALIZED
PROCUREMENT ROLE DOESN'T
DIMINISH OR COMPROMISE THE STATE
WATER PROJECT OPERATIONS OR
IMPOSE ANY COLLATERAL COSTS. ON
THE PUBLICATION FUTURE CONTRACT
REVIEW W. OFFICE THEY WATER
SUPPLIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE. IT THANK YOU THAT'S
GOING. MY FIFTY YEAR LOW IS OPEN
. WHAT HAPPENED- THANK YOU FOR
BACK CENTER DOLLY. AND FULL
COMMITTEE TODAY FOR HEARING THE
VERY INTERESTING. ON THAT ALLEY
. ON BEHALF OF THE MIKE
RESOURCES COALITION AND JUST A
FEW. OF QUICK COMMENTS AND WE'LL
FOLLOW UP WITH SOME MORE WRITTEN
OUR PRODUCTS AS WELL. MICROGRID
CAN. NEARLY ALL THE- THAT WERE
RAISED IN THIS HEARING TODAY
BETWEEN AFFORDABILITY AND TRYING
TO MAXIMIZE PRIVATE CAPITAL AND
INVESTMENT LEVERAGING FEDERAL
FUNDING TO QUICKER
INTERCONNECTION. AND MORE TO
MORE AFFORDABLE ELECTRICITY AS
THE STATE MOVES TO
ELECTRIFICATION AS WELL AS
DECENTRALIZATION CAN MITIGATE
THE RISKS OF CLIMATE VULNERABLE
INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE TRANSMISSION
- WHERE NOW WE ARE MOVING INTO
AN AGE OF CLIMATE CHANGE- WITH.
ELECTRICITY RATE RAPIDLY RISING
TRANSMISSION AND LARGE POWER
PLANTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND
THEY ARE CHEAP BECAUSE OF
CUSTOMER RATES INCREASING FOR
THE CQC'S OWN AFFORDABILITY
REPORT. ON IT WITH REGARD TO THE
DEFAULT PROGRAM AND THE LA-
REPORT WE'RE REALLY THANKFUL FOR
THE SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS INDEED THE FUNDING AND
THE CDC MOVING QUICKLY TO GET
THAT PROGRAM LINE. WE APPRECIATE
IT APPEARS THE FUNDING WILL
REMAIN INTACT AS THERE'S THAT ON
PAGE FOURTEEN AT THE LA- REPORT
STATED THAT MAYBE FUNDING SHOULD
BE DELAYED. BECAUSE THE DEALER
PROGRAM AS NOT AND ONCE YOU HAD
OR HAD ANY PROJECT PLAYED. I
MIGHT REGRET HER EXPLICITLY
ELIGIBLE GRITTY BUT AND THEY ARE
RIGHT YOU DEPLOYED BY- PROVIDE
RELIABILITY SERVICES RIGHT NOW
AND WE THINK THAT THE DEBATE
YOUR CREATIVE STANDARD CUSTOMER
INCENTIVE PROGRAM IS NOT A GRANT
CHALLENGE SO THAT WE CAN GET
THAT MONEY OUT THE DOOR TO
CUSTOMER MICROGRID. EIGHTH
HAPPENED SO THAT THERE ARE NO
BUDGET CUTS TOO DEEP BUT AND THE
THING ABOUT FINDING FUNDING WILL
BE HELPFUL TO INCENTIVIZING
CLEAN ENERGY MIGHT REGRET THAT
ARE ZERO OR LOW AND A MISSION.
IN CONTRAST THE D. W. R. PROGRAM
THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S STILL
FINDING HIGH COST POSSIBLE
GENERATION. OKAY. THANK YOU DO
HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP UP. YEAH
WE THINK THAT MIGHT WILL BE
DISPLAYED. ACROSS TO PROVIDE FOR
CAPACITY GOT NUMBER. CORRECT ME
OR THAT'S HOW OUTAGES ENOUGH
FOR- I KNOW THAT FUNDING SO BE.
THANK VERY MUCH WE GOT THE THANK
YOU FOR COMMENT NECK CALL PLEASE
. LIGHT WINDS ONE THREE GO AHEAD
. YOUR NUMBERS DOWN SHAW WITH-
THE GOVERNMENT BILL. THAT'S
GOING ON TWO ITEMS FIRST-
RELIABILITY PROPOSAL ELECTED-
ASSOCIATED COMMENTS WITH CAL PCA
ON BEHALF OF CLEAN POWER
ALLIANCE. GPA IS THE STATE'S
LARGEST CCA WE'RE PARTICULARLY
CONCERNED ABOUT THE CAPACITY
PAYMENT PROPOSAL. A BIGGER STICK
IS NOT GOING TO GET- THE STATE
THE RESOURCES- THEY'RE NOT
THEY'RE SIMPLY NOT AVAILABLE- AT
A COST EFFECTIVE- PRICE. SECOND
ITEM RE AUTHORIZATION OF THE
CLEAN TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM ON
BEHALF OF FLOWY CHARGING STRONG
SUPPORTERS OF THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL. LIKE TO ALSO KNOWLEDGE
OF THE WORK OF CENTER GONZALEZ
AND SOME REMEMBER RADIUS- ON- ON
THAT- EFFORT AS WELL THANK YOU
SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
NEXT CAR. THE MARINES MOVE ON
NEXT ONE. OKAY WITH HIS MOTHER.
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE SIXTY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. THANKS GOOD AFTERNOON
KAREN MEMBERS LAURA LANE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PORT AUTHORITY IF
YOUR CAPS LOCK. LET THEM LEAN ON
THE PORT- ONE OF THE MOST
CONSEQUENTIAL COURT SYSTEMS IN
THE NATION THE PORTING MILLIONS
OF JOBS AND BRINGING- LOTS OF
CARGO INTO OUR COUNTRY TRADE
VOLUME THE PORTS HAVE A RECORD
OF GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND
ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY
REQUIREMENTS. WHILE STRIVING TO
REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN
CHALLENGING ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT
YOU KNOW IMPLEMENTING NEW GREEN
TECHNOLOGIES HAVE BEEN KEY TO
THE SUCCESS OF OUR PORTS
ELIMINATING FUNDING FOR THE
CARDS THAT YOU SEE PROGRAM AIMED
AT REDUCING EMISSIONS REPORT
EQUIPMENT. WE THINK IT'S SHORT
SIGHTED AND IT'S CUT SHOULD BE
TREATED LIKE OTHER PROGRAMS AND
PAUSE TO ENSURE THAT THE STATE
RESOURCES ARE BEING DIRECTED TO
FUND PROGRAMS THAT ARE MAKING AN
IMPACT ON THE STATE'S GREENHOUSE
GAS REDUCTION GOALS. CALIFORNIA
PORTS NEED TO ADOPT STRATEGIES
THAT ARE NOT ONLY ADOPTED FOR
ALL LOW EMISSION DRAYAGE TRUCKS
BUT ALSO THE HANDLING EQUIPMENT
MOVING FREIGHT. CARGO ON AND
AROUND OUR PORT. ACTUALLY
REQUESTED THE LEAD IN QUITE
INVESTMENT- AND FORWARD TO AND-
FURTHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CAR. NEXT
WE'LL GO TO LINE SIXTY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. ET
JUST A QUICK LOOK ON BEHALF OF
THE BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
COALITION FOR THE GOVERNOR'S.
SCHOOL FOR THE EQUITABLE
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
ALLEGATIONS. LET'S LEAVE ALEC
HIGHLIGHTED AND ANALYSIS THIS
FUNDING WILL BE CRITICAL SUPPORT
EFFICIENCY IN ENERGY
IMPROVEMENTS FOR LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS WOULD NOT OTHERWISE.
BE ABLE TO UNDERTAKE THESE
UPGRADES. DO NOT SUPPORT ANY.
DELAYS CUTS TO THE FUNDING ON
TOP OF GETTING A COUPLE THE RISK
LEAVING LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES
BEHIND INTRODUCTION TO A
VERIFICATION FUTURE.
ADDITIONALLY THE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION COLLECTIONS.
SUPPORTS I HAVE NUMBER THREE ON
BUT ONLY CALENDAR THE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION FINANCING.
PROGRAM WHICH WILL FURTHER
SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF LONG
TERM FINANCING OPTIONS FOR THE
BUILDING BECAUSE OF RENOVATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE LAST
CALLER WE'VE- OKAY LAST WILL
COME FROM THE LINE FIFTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. THAT AFTERNOON A LEAF ON
BREAK FROM TRITON PRICE
CONSULTING AND I'M HERE
REPRESENTING IF YOU PREFER A
COUPLE ISSUES THE FIRST ON
BEHALF OF THE ASIAN PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ALLIANCE. GREENVILLE COALITION
WE PROVIDED A LETTER TO THE
COMMITTEE AND WANT TO REQUEST
THAT THE LEGISLATURE REJECT THE
DELAYS AND HOT THE FUNDING FOR
THE ALCOHOL D. CARB. PROGRAMS AT
THE CDC IN ADDITION WE WOULD
URGE THE LEGISLATURE TO PROTECT
THE FULL COMMITMENT FOR
COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAMS AND
COMMUNITY RESILIENCY FANART.
INVESTMENT OF EIGHT PROGRAMS
WOULD HAVE INTERSECTING BENEFITS
AND CHLORINE INCLUDED LOWERING
ENERGY BILLS ENHANCING GRID
RELIABILITY CREATING GOOD JOBS
AND REDUCE EMISSIONS. LEVEL
FUNDING FOR THESE PROGRAMS IT'S
ALSO ESSENTIAL TO MAKE
CALIFORNIA COMPETITIVE FOR THE
BILLIONS AND FUNDING FROM THE
IRA FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
WITH YOUTH GROUPS AND THE
COALITION FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR
AFTER THAT. WELL THERE'S A PART
OF THE FUNDING TO THE TTC TOOK
THE COURT POSITION FOR
IMPLEMENTATION OF EIGHTY TWENTY
THREE SIXTEEN MORE FUNDING IS
NEEDED TO FALL IN FULLY
IMPLEMENT ALL THESE PROGRAMS.
THAT ARE ESSENTIAL FOR MAKING
OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES MORE
RESILIENT EIGHT. AND THAT'S
DEFINITELY ON BEHALF OF THE
NATIONAL PARKS CONSERVATION
ASSOCIATION WANT TO ELEVATE SOME
CONCERNS WITH THE FEDERAL
PROCUREMENT MECHANISM OPERATES
DAY PARTICULARLY THE LACK OF
DEFINITION ON WHAT PROJECTS AND
TECHNOLOGIES QUALIFY. FOR LONG
DURATION ENERGY STORAGE AND A
LACK OF FIVE START. RECORDING
WHAT WOULD TRIGGER A CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT ACTIONS THAT WE
THINK ADDING A DEFINITION AND BY
PORTS WOULD BE. HELPFUL IN
ADVANCE PROJECT AT A COST
EFFECTIVE AND NECESSARY WE LOOK
FORWARD TO THAT LEGISLATURE. TO
ENSURE THOSE GUIDELINES ARE
ADDED THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I'M I BELIEVE THAT THAT
CONCLUDES OUR- A PUBLIC. AND NOW
WE WERE MOVE ON. A VOTING
MEMBER- AND ITEMS. ON ME IN THE
PHOTO K. SO FIRST WE'RE GOING
TO. TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR
ISSUES 237-911-1213. FIFTEEN
SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN AND
TWENTY. ONE A CERTAIN. OF MOTION
FOR CENTER DOLLY. I'M WE WOULD
CALL FOR REAL. BECKER HI. BECKER
I DOLLY. DOLLY I REQUIRE.
MAGUIRE I. BUSH'S APPROVED OVER
THREE TO NOTHING IN THOSE BUDGET
ITEMS ARE OUT. OF NOW WE'LL MOVE
ON TO ITEMS- ISSUES. ONE FOUR
FIVE SIX EIGHT TEN FOURTEEN AND
NINETEEN. THE MOTION. MOTION
PERCENT REQUIRE PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. BACKER I THANK HER I DALI.
DOLLY NO. MCGUIRE MAGUIRE I.
THOSE MOTIONS THOSE- ITEMS
ISSUES WERE OUT ON A TWO TO ONE
VOTE TO THEIR PAST. AND LET'S
SEE I THINK THAT IS IT. OKAY
WELL THANK YOU SOLDIERS WERE A
PARTICIPATED ARE HEARING TODAY.
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THE PARTICIPATION. THIS IS
CONCLUDES THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S
HEARING A SENATE BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE TO IS CHURNED.