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MORNING THIS SAID IT CONTINUES
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844-291-5491 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS SEVEN ZERO FOUR TWO. FOUR
SEVEN SEVEN WE ARE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARING IN THE STATE
CAPITAL TODAY AND I ANYBODY
WHO'S NOT HERE COME TO ROOM ONE
TWELVE IT'S WHERE THE ACTION IS
AND- WE ARE GOING TO- WE HAVE
ONE BUILT FROM MARK FIRST
EXTRAORDINARY SESSION ON TODAY'S
AGENDA BUT WE'RE GOING TO
ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM RIGHT NOW
SO MR SECRETARY WE HAVE A
SECRETARY. PERSON PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL A CENTER PORTANTINO
MOVED HERE FROM TINO HERE CENTER
JONES JONES HERE CENTER ASHBY
CENTER BRADFORD CENTER SEYARTO
HERE SINCE WE ARE TO HEAR CENTER
WILL HOP HERE BOB HERE CENTER
WIENER. BEFORE MEMBERS PRESENT
WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS SO WE HAVE
A QUORUM SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE
TO THE BUSINESS OF THE DAY BUT
BEFORE WE DO THAT I WANT TO
REMIND ALL OF OUR WITNESSES TO
LIMIT THEIR TESTIMONY TO THE
FISCAL ASPECTS OF THE BILL. AND
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM REPEATING
PRIOR TESTIMONY AS MOST OF YOU
KNOW THIS BILL. HAS HAVE A
LENGTHY LENGTHY. PUBLIC POLICY
HEARING YESTERDAY IN SENATOR
BRADFORD'S COMMITTEE- WE HAVE
FOUR SESSION AT NINE SO WILL
ALSO NEED TO- TRY TO KEEP- THE
TESTIMONY AND WITNESSES TO A
REASONABLE TIME I'M GONNA PUT
SOME LIMITS IF- WE HAVE A LONG
LIST OF FOLKS. WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE HAVE EQUAL TIME FOR BOTH
SUPPORTERS AND OPPONENTS SO
TODAY WE'RE HEARING ITEM S. B.
X. ONE TWO BY SENATOR SKINNER.
SO WELCOME SENATOR SKINNER TO
TELL US ABOUT ENERGY TRANSMITTED
TRANSPORTATION FUEL SUPPLY AND
PRICING MAXIMUM GROSS GASOLINE
REFINING. MARGINS THANK YOU SO
MUCH MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS- I
WANT TO FIRST THANK THE CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
ANALYSIS THE ANALYSIS REFLECTS
THE CONTENT IN THE PURPOSE OF
THE BILL. AND OUR UNDERSTANDING
OF THE ESTIMATED COST THERE IS
ONE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
AND THAT IS THAT WE MEANING. MY
OFFICE IN THE ADMINISTRATION ARE
WORKING TO BRING DOWN THE COSTS
THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORK
PRODUCT THIS BILL. HAS BEEN
COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BILL TO
THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD. WE ARE
ALSO WORKING TO IDENTIFY OTHER
COST SAVINGS THAT MAY BE
ACHIEVED WHILE STILL RETAINING
THE FULL STRENGTH AND INTENT OF
THE BILL IN THE FULL SUITE OF
PROVISIONS OUTLINED IN THE BILL.
WE HOPE TO HAVE THESE COST
SAVING MEASURES FULLY IDENTIFIED
PRIOR TO- THE BUDGET ACTION THAT
WOULD APPROPRIATE FINES RELATED
TO THIS BILL- WE DID AS THE
CHAIRMAN CHEN HAVE VERY VERY-
THOROUGH HEARING YESTERDAY. AND
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTENT OF
THE BILL OR TO DISCUSS IT BUT I
THINK SINCE THIS IS THE PROBES
COMMITTEE I DID STICK TO THE
COST IMPLICATIONS. THERE IS A
NEW DIVISION THAT'S CREATED
THERE'S AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THAT IS CREATED THERE IS A ASK
TO THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE
AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS
THAT OF COURSE WILL HAVE COST
SOME OF THEM WELL INTO THE
FUTURE SOME OF THEM CURRENTLY.
BUT AS I MENTIONED WE ARE
WORKING TO- WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO USE
EXISTING RESOURCES WHERE
POSSIBLE AND BRING THOSE COSTS
DOWN. AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
RELATED TO THE CONTENT OF THE
BILL. YES. RIGHT YES BY POLITICS
BUT OTHERWISE THERE'S NOT ONLY
WITNESS NO APOLOGIES WE DIDN'T
FEEL SINCE IT'S NOT THE POLICY
COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD NEED
THAT ALL RIGHT WELL WE'LL HEAR
FROM FINANCE A GREAT. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR PORTANTINO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS- MICHELLE PROP
WITH BERMAN A FINANCE- I'M GOING
TO KEEP MY REMARKS BRIEF AS WELL
I HAD BETTER WANTED TO JUST
PROVIDE PRELIMINARY FISCAL
OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT VERSION
OF THE BILL- AND SO BASED UPON
THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF THE
BILL. IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THEY
WERE COSTS BECAUSE OVERALL COSTS
STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR IS AROUND
SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS- MOST OF
THESE COST ASSUMPTIONS ARE
ASSOCIATING WITH STAFFING. FOR
THE ENERGY COMMISSION TO FULFILL
ITS OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE
PROPOSED STATUTE AND TO DEVELOP
AND STAFF AT THE INDEPENDENT
DIVISION LAID OUT IN THE
PROPOSAL. THE INDEPENDENT
DIVISION IS EXPECTED TO ACQUIRE
TWO POINT FIVE MILLION ON GOING
TO SPORTS TEN STAFF AND THE
ANARCHY ENERGY COMMISSION WILL
REQUIRE FOURTEEN OR FOUR POINT
FOUR MILLION CONSISTING OF TWO
POINT EIGHT MILLION FOR FOURTEEN
STAFF. AND CONTRACT DOLLARS
TOTALING ONE POINT SIX MILLION-
IT SHOULD BE NOTED HOWEVER AS
WAS MENTIONED- THAT THAT THE
COMMISSION IS LARGELY SUPPORTED.
BY SPECIAL FUNDS AND- THOSE ARE
BEING EVALUATED TO SUPPORT SOME
OF THESE FUNCTIONS AS WELL AS-
THE COMMISSION. WILLIS IS
LOOKING AT THE ABILITY TO
REDIRECT SOME OF THEIR CURRENT
RESOURCES AND STAFF. AT TO MEET
SOME OF THE NEW REQUIREMENTS
LAID OUT IN THE PROPOSAL- IT
AGAIN IT. CALL THAT ARE NOTED
FOR TWENTY THREE TWENTY FOUR
COULD CONSIST OF CONTRACTING
COSTS OF UP TO ONE MILLION
DOLLARS FOR THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD. OF THIS TO PREPARE THE
TRANSPORTATION TRANSPORTATION
FUELS TRANSITION PLAN- THIS
CALLED OUT FOR A TO BE DONE BY
DECEMBER THIRTY FIRST OF TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR. AND THEN
POTENTIALLY ONGOING COSTS OF
BETWEEN FIFTY THOUSAND AND TWO
HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
ANNUALLY FOR. THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP SOME
PROCESS SEES AT TO REQUEST
REQUIRED DATA THAT'S ALSO LAID
OUT IN THE PROPOSED. STATUTE AS
THE SENATOR MENTIONED WE
RECOGNIZE THAT IS A BILL THAT
MOVES TO THE PROCESS- THAT THERE
COULD BE SOME AMENDMENTS TAKEN
THAT RELATE TO THE FISCAL IMPACT
AND SO. FINANCE WILL CONTINUE TO
MONITOR THE BILL AND UPDATE ANY.
FINANCIAL IMPACT AS WE AS WE SEE
IT MOVE THROUGH. AND OUT WITH
THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS RELATED TO POTENTIAL
FISCAL IMPACT THANK YOU. WE TAKE
PUBLIC. SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE
BILL WE HAVE NO LEAD WITNESSES
SO HE COULD CONFINE YOUR
TESTIMONY TO. YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR POSITION
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH KIM STONE STONE
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF CONSUMER
WATCHDOG AND A COALITION OF OVER
ONE HUNDRED- ENVIRONMENTAL
CONSUMER AND ADVOCACY GROUPS IN
SUPPORT I HAVE A NUMBER OF
LOGO'S AND THREE PAGES OF NAMES
ORGANIZATIONS WILL NOT READ THEM
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. BUT AT
WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE. GOOD
MORNING MISTER CHAIR JUSTIN
PESAR HERE ON BEHALF CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS TO WESTERN STATES
COUNCIL SHEET METAL WORKERS. THE
CALIFORNIA COALITION OF UTILITY
EMPLOYEES AND ALSO REPRESENTING
ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PROTECT
AMERICA WHERE THERE ARE OVER ONE
HUNDRED SIGNATORY ELECTED
OFFICIALS FROM CALIFORNIA ALL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
STAFF KRISTOFF MEYER WITH THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES
IN SUPPORT OF S. B. X. ONE TWO.
BILL ALABAMA ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP PART OF THAT LARGE
COALITION JUST ONE SENTENCE ON
FISCAL IMPACT THE OIL COMPANIES
OFTEN TOUT THE POSITIVE
MULTIPLIER EFFECTS. PRODUCT WE
KNOW IT DOES AFFECT THE WHOLE
ECONOMY. BUT THEY WON'T TALK
ABOUT THE NEGATIVE MULTIPLIER
EFFECTS WHEN YOU RAISE THE PRICE
OF GAS TO TWO FIFTY DOLLARS A
GALLON. TO LOW AND MODERATE
INCOME PEOPLE IT'S A HUGE
NEGATIVE IMPACT WHICH THEN ECHO
THROUGH THE ECONOMY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH WE URGE OUR AYE
SUPPORT. THERE ANYONE HERE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE THIS. AND
I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO MAKE A
FEW COMMENTS. GOOD MORNING-
CENTER AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE THAT QUERY ON BEHALF
OF THE WESTERN STATES PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION- UNFORTUNATELY CAN
COMMUTER OPPOSE THIS
UNPRECEDENTED AND UNTESTED
EXPERIMENT. AND THE CALIFORNIA
FEEL MARKET- WE STILL BELIEVE
IT'LL LEAD TO THE SAME
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AS THE-
PREVIOUS PROPOSAL OF LESS
INVESTMENT LESS SUPPLY AND
HIGHER COSTS FOR CONSUMERS. ON
THE FISCAL NOTES WITH CONCERN
ABOUT THE COST RELATED WITH THIS
PROPOSAL THE NEARLY SEVEN
MILLION DOLLARS ON GOING UP
LIKELY FROM SPECIAL FUNDS LEVIED
ON. WHICH COME FROM FEES LEVIED
ON THE INDUSTRY AND THEN THE ONE
MILLION DOLLAR- TO THE COST OF
IMPLEMENTATION FUND AT THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD ALSO FEES LEVIED
ON THE INDUSTRY. UNFORTUNATELY
AT THE REMAIN OPPOSED- THE THIS
ON. AND UNTESTED EXPERIMENT AND
OUR MARKET THANK YOU IT. OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION. SHURMUR'S
POLYCHROMY HAVE THE KERN COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ARE
ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS BILL-
KERN COUNTY Z. ENERGY CAPITAL OF
CALIFORNIA. AND PRODUCES THE
MOST ALTERNATIVE ENERGY IN
ADDITION OIL PRODUCTION WEST OF
THE MISSISSIPPI LASHER THIS
LEGISLATURE CHOSE TO EXTEND THE
PROPERTY TAX EXCLUSION CENTER
HERTZBERG SB THIRTEEN FORTY ON
THE FISCAL. THAT CONTINUES TO
COST KERN COUNTY FIFTEEN MILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR. TO PRODUCE GREEN
ELECTRONS FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE
STATE I JUST HOPE THIS IS THAT
THIS LEGISLATURE CAN TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT EVERYTHING THE KERN
COUNTY DOES. TO POWER LITERALLY
POWER CALIFORNIA. AND I JUST
WOULD BESEECH YOU TO DO THAT IN
THE FUTURE THANK YOU THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE OPPOSITION THEN
WE'LL GO TO ONLY NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE HERE. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO THE PHONE LINES
RIGHT. SO LET'S CUE UP THE PHONE
LINES THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE- PLEASE PROMPT THE
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION AGAIN
AT THIS POINT WE'RE ONLY GONNA
HERE NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION. MODERATOR TO HAVE
ANYONE ON THE PHONE LINE. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN THE PHONE LINES IF YOU
WISH TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO S. B. X. ONE TWO
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME ONE FILED BY ZERO. ONE
MOMENT MISTER CHAIR WE DO HAVE A
FEW QUEUING UP.
GREAT LINE FIFTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. SURE MEMBERS ON WHEN
YOU'RE ON THE OPPOSITE
CALIFORNIA FEELS AND CONVENIENCE
ALLIANCE- POSED TO THE
CONFIDENCE LEVEL ARE SMALL
BUSINESSES. SIX ONLY SIXTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING
MEMBERS BRADY VETTING ON
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
OPPOSED THANK YOU. FIND
SEVENTEEN YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD
MORNING THIS IS NATALIE BELT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE WE ARE CLOSE
. FIND TWENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IN NINETEEN SURE NUMBER JENNIFER
JENNIFER CALLING ON BEHALF OF
ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB BONTA
BECAUSE BONTA DEL IN SUPPORT.
AND YOU ARE OPEN LINE ELEVEN.
AND YOUR MEMBERS EVEN NAY COLOR
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
MOUNTAIN VIEW IN SUPPORT. PLEASE
GO AHEAD LINE EIGHTEEN. GOOD
MORNING CRISTINA SYRINGE FOR THE
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY
AND STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
AND I MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE
EXHAUSTED THE QUEUE.
EXHAUSTIVELY Q. WE'VE HEARD FROM
FINANCED AS ANY MEMBER OF THE
COMMITTEE HAVE A QUESTION FOR
THE AUTHOR FOR FINANCE MR
SEYARTO. HELLO THERE WE GO- SIR.
STAFF FROM BOTH SIDES AGREED
IT'S GONNA BE SEVEN MILLION
DOLLARS BETWEEN FIVE AND TEN
MILLION DOLLAR COST FOR
OPERATIONS AND RIGHT NOW THE CDC
IS ALREADY FUNDED BY THE FEE OR
TAX ON ELECTRICITY TO RUN THAT
AND THAT FUNDS RUNNING OUT- IT'S
NOT SUFFICIENT TO GO FORWARD. SO
IS A GOVERNOR GOING TO COMMIT TO
NOT RAISING TAXES OR FEES ON
CONSUMERS TO PAY FOR THIS. AS I
MENTIONED WE'RE KIND OF
PRELIMINARILY LOOKING AT ALL
THOSE FUNDS INCLUDED WE HAVEN'T
HAD ENOUGH TIME TO EVEN DELETE
YOU HAVE AN INJURY INTO THOSE
THINGS WE HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T
HAD A LOT OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT.
ALL THE DETAILS BUT WE ARE
LOOKING AT AT THE ALL THE
SPECIAL FUNDS AND WE'RE AWARE OF
SOME OF THE PIECES THAT COME
ALONG WITH THAT I APPRECIATE
THAT THANK YOU IF I MAY RESPOND
THERE IS NO INTENT AT THIS POINT
TO RAISE ANY OF THOSE BE.
THERE'S NO INTENT THERE DOESN'T
MEAN WE'RE NOT ALL OF THE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS
THE COSTS AND THANK YOU ALSO TO-
DO OUR BEST TO REDUCE THOSE
COSTS. THE THAT IS NOT ON THE
TABLE THANK YOU- GROSS MARGINS.
THIS THIS IS THIS IS PART OF THE
REVENUE SIDE OF THIS. AND SO IT
IS PART OF THE FINANCIAL. PART
OF THIS- THERE'S MONTHLY. GROSS
MARGINS FOR SOME BUSINESSES AND-
THERE'S NEARLY LONGER GROSS
MARGINS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO
EVEN LONGER THAN THAT DEPENDING
UPON THE SIZE OF BUSINESS. I
KNOW OF GROSS MARGINS IN MY
WIFE'S BUSINESSES A TAX PERSON
THEY'RE GREAT AND- YEAH JANUARY
FEBRUARY AND MARCH. AND APRIL-
BUT THE REST OF MATH THE REST OF
THE YEAR NOT SO MUCH- SO- WHEN
YOU'RE AVERAGING THAT OUT- IT
DEPENDS UPON. WHAT MONTH YOU'RE
AVERAGING OUT- TO DETERMINE WHAT
YOU'RE GOING TO AND IN THIS
CASE- WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
DETERMINE IS AN EXCESS MARGIN.
SO IS THIS GOING TO BE LONGER
TERM OR IS THIS GOING TO BE
SHORTER TERM IS GONNA BE A
MONTHLY THING OR A YEARLY THING.
BECAUSE IT'S AN OR THE OIL
COMPANIES A HUGE THING AND IF
THEY HAVE TO MAKE PROFITS YEAR.
OVER YEAR AND MAKE UP FOR SOME
PROFITS WHEN THEY HAVE A BAD
YEAR LIKE THEY WERE HAVING A FEW
YEARS BACK- HOW DO HOW ARE THEY
GOING TO ARRANGE THOSE. IF I MAY
TO THE CHAIR- THAT IS THE
PURPOSE OF THE STEP WAS ONE OF
THE DIVISION AS WELL AS THE
ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO HAVE A SET
OF EXPERTS THAT CAN ANALYZE THE
DATA AS THE- ON TEN OF THE BILL
DESCRIBES. AND TO THEN MAKE.
CERTAIN DETERMINATIONS AND OF
COURSE THERE IS NOTHING IN THE
BILL THAT IN ANY WAY WOOD I.
WOULD EITHER COUNTER OR THE BILL
IS STRUCTURED TO ACCEPT OF
COURSE THAT OIL COMPANIES LIKE
EVERY OTHER COMPANY. HAS THE
RIGHT TO MAKE PROFITS SO THERE
IS NOTHING ABOUT THE BILL THAT
WOULD IMPEDE UPON PROFITS IT IS
ONLY ABOUT THE- IN EXCESSIVE
WORST PRICE SPIKING. SO THOSE
ANALYSIS WHY WE ARE ESTABLISHING
THE DIVISION AND THE ADVISORY
COMMITTEE IS TO HAVE EXPERTS WHO
CAN ANALYZE THAT DATA DID
UNDERSTAND. THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN LONG TERM AND SHORT TERM
MARGINS. YES OKAY THANK YOU. OR
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW
ANYMORE. SWARA THANK YOU- ONE I
REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU CENTER
SKINNER FOR PRESENTING THIS AND-
TO A GOVERNOR WHO'S ALSO TRYING
TO KEEP THE BEST INTEREST OF THE
PUBLIC- AVAILABLE- SO THE NUMBER
ONE SELLING VEHICLE IN THAT
COUNTRY IS A FORD F. ONE FIFTY
PICKUP TRUCK- WE KNOW THAT MORE
AND MORE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY IN.
REGIONAL AREAS- HAVE BEEN. MOVED
FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY BECAUSE
OF THE COST OF HOUSING AND A LOT
OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE DRIVING
TO METRO AREAS SUCH AS THE BAY
AREA TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND
PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES- WE
SAW A SIGNIFICANT SPIKE IN- GAS
PRICES. ARE FOR THESE WORKING
CLASS PEOPLE AND I BELIEVE THAT
CALIFORNIANS BY ROUGHLY THIRTY
MILLION GALLONS OF GAS A DAY-
AND ROUGHLY HALF AN AVERAGE OF
FIVE DOLLARS A GALLON AVERAGE OR
SO- WHICH QUITS TO ABOUT A
HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS A
DAY- I DO BELIEVE THAT WE DO
NEED TO DO MORE A LITTLE BIT.
ABOUT MONOPOLIES ESPECIALLY ON
THE STATE LEVEL AND- HAVING
SIGNIFICANT CONTROL ON THE
MARKET SO- I WILL BE MOVING THIS
ITEM AND- SENATOR I I'D LOVE TO
CO AUTHOR THIS AS WELL. THANK
YOU. WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S
POSSIBLE WE WILL TRY OUR BEST TO
ACCOMMODATE THAT. ARE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES. MISTER JONES VICE
CHAIR. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN.
THEIR PART YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF
I NEED TO MAKE AS A SUBSTITUTE
MOTION BUT I WOULD LIKE TO. MAKE
A MOTION TO MOVE S. B. X. ONE TO
THE SUSPENSE FILE. WE HAVE NOT
YET ADOPTED THE COMMITTEE RULES
THIS YEAR FOR THIS COMMITTEE
SIZE SUMER OPERATING OFF LAST
YEAR'S RULES. I HAVE A COPY HERE
IN THE BILL FAR EXCEEDS THE
LIMITS AT TO BE PUT UNDER THIS
IS UNDER THE SUSPENSE FILE. BILL
DOES NOT HAVE ANY URGENCY CLASS
SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO BE
PUSHING IT THROUGH SO QUICKLY.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE STATE BUDGET
DEFICIT ESTIMATES IT GETTING
WORSE WE NEED TO GIVE THIS BILLS
COSTS THE PROPER CONSIDERATION.
I CAN BE DEBT BETTER DONE BY
PLACING IT ON THE SUSPENSE FILE.
AND CONSIDERING IT LATER IN THE
YEAR WHEN WE HAVE A BETTER GRASP
ON OUR BUDGET RESTRICTIONS. IT
ALSO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION
TIME TO WORK OUT SOME OF THE
MYTHS AND MAINTENANCE THAT WERE
MENTIONED THIS MORNING. AND-
JUST JUST GIVE HIS BILLS SOME
MORE TIME TO GET WORKED OUT AND
GETTING WORSE FINALLY ANSWERS ON
THESE SITES LIKE TO MAKE THAT
MOTION. ALL RIGHT SO SINCE WE
HAD THE- STATEMENT THAT EMOTION
WAS GOING TO BE MADE I'M
ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO ACCEPT
THAT AT THIS POINT WE'RE GONNA
TAKE THIS MOTION BUT THE CHAIR
IS GOING TO RECOMMEND. I KNOW
VOTE. AND SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE
THE MOTION TO PLACE IT ON THE
SUSPENSE FILE FIRST- CHAIRS
RECOMMENDING AN OVERLOAD DEVICE
STRUCTURE COMMUTING AND I VOTE.
AND SELL MADAM SECRETARY IF YOU
COULD CALL THE ROLL ON THIS
MOTION AGAIN SHARES GOING NOW.
CALDERON OF I'M SURE MY- CALL
THE ROLL. THE MOTION WOULD BE
TO. S. B. R. ONE. TWO
SUSPENSEFUL. A SENATOR FOR. NO
SIR PORTANTINO NELSON JOHN.
JONES I CENTER AT. CENTER ASHLEY
. AND BRADFORD. BRADFORD CENTER
SO. THE WE ARE TO OUR EYES WILL
HAVE. BOB NO SENATOR WIENER.
WIENER NOW POLICE TO FIVE VOTE-
THE MO. FAILS TO DEFY. NOW
SENATOR WHY HOW COULD YOU
MOTIONS AND I THOUGHT. I MAKE
ANOTHER TO MOVE ARE. MORE
CONSUMER COLUMNIST OF. AS A. I'M
SORRY THANK YOU LICENSE YEAR.
AND- I WANT ALSO TO. SO CAN
LEASH ON THIS IS I JUST NEED
SOME COLOR. FROM DEPARTMENT OF
FIVE. WAS THE TO MILLION ONGOING
CALL. OVERSEEING THIS PURPOSE.
AND IF SO WHY IS A CALL OF UP
THIS. FROM GOING FROM SHOULD YOU
START TO FINISH WHERE YOU GO
BECAUSE IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF
MOVING YEARS WHAT THAT COST
ABSOLUTE I APPRECIATE THE- THAT
THE QUESTION AND- I'M JUST GONNA
COPY A THIS WITH THE- THINKING
THAT THAT THE CENTERS OUR HAS
INDICATE WERE STILL OF WORKING
WITH SOME THAT APART. TO MAKE
SURE WE CAN FINALIZE ACTUAL
COSTS BASED ON THE CURRENT- THE
PROCRIT LANGUAGE THAT DOES IT'S
ABOUT SEVEN MILLION- AT THE
MOMENT ON GOING FOR THE
STAFFING- THE PORTION OF IT THAT
IS THAT THIS ONE TIME BUT AGAIN
WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH AS
A RESOURCES BOARD HAS INDICATED
A COST OF ABOUT UP TO ONE
MILLION BUT- THAT WOULD BE A ONE
TIME COST. SO THAT THAT FIVE TO
TEN HOURS OF SEVEN TO TEN
MILLION A TO STAND IT UP IS
ABOUT ACCURATE BASED ON WHAT WE
KNOW RIGHT NOW WITH THE BALLOT
SEVEN MILLION OF IT ON GOING AT
THE MOMENT. AND IF I COULD- SO
THERE WAS A REFERENCE THAT- SO I
OPENED INDICATING THAT WE ARE
LOOKING CAREFULLY. AT HOW TO
ACHIEVE SOME COST SAVINGS THAT
DOES NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE
AMENDING THE BILL. WE THERE MAY
BE THE ABILITY AS WAS MENTIONED
BY DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TO-
MOVE IN YOUR MOVE POSITIONS. IN
VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. RATHER THAN
HAVING TO CREATE NEW ONES THOSE
ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT. SO WELL THAT
DOESN'T IN YOU KNOW THERE
THERE'S- THAT DOES NOT REDUCE AN
ON GOING COST IT REDUCES IT
BEING NEWLY APPROPRIATED BECAUSE
IT WOULD BE FROM EXISTING- FUNDS
ARE EXISTING. YOU KNOW SOMETHING
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED
. OF THE CENTER'S GONNA WOULD
YOU LIKE IT ANYTHING ELSE IS A
CLOSE. YES THANK YOU- WHAT I
WOULD ADD IS THAT THE- THE
POTENTIAL OF THIS BILL TO SAVE
OUR CONSUMERS. BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS WHEN THEY EXPERIENCED AS
WE ALL DID. COSTS GALLONS AT AN
AVERAGE COST OF A GALLON OF GAS
TWO DOLLARS AND SIXTY CENTS
ABOVE ABOVE THE AVERAGE OF ANY
OTHER STATE. IN THE NATION AND
IT SEEMS TO ME A VERY WISE
EXPENDITURE OF THESE FUNDS TO
SEEK TO POTENTIALLY SAVE OUR
CONSUMERS THOSE BILLIONS AND
WITH THAT I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION WE'VE
HEARD FROM FINANCE WE'VE HAD OUR
QUESTIONS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE
PUBLIC. BUT DID YOU KNOW I'M
SORRY. I NEVER DID YOU KNOW IN
NINETEEN SIXTY SEVEN. MARTIN
LUTHER KING FIRST OPPOSED THE
VIETNAM WAR AND THE BEST PICTURE
WAS A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS WE ALL
THAT NOTE PICTURE WITH THAT MARK
WILL CALL THE ROLL. ON S. B. X.
ONE TWO THE MOST IS TO PAY OF
THIS FLOOR. CENTERPOINT HI WHY
SIR PORTANTINO ICE JONES. JONES
KNOWS ASH. ASHBY BY SENATOR
BRADFORD. BRADFORD I CENTER
SEYARTO. SEYARTO NO SENATOR
WAHABI I BOB SENATOR WE WIENER.
FIVE YEAH- THE BILL IS OUT FIVE
FIVE TWO TWO. BILLS OUT FIVE TWO
TWO- WE DID HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR WHITEHOUSE AND WE ARE
CONCLUDING OUR AGENDA FOR
TODAY'S HEARING THIS MEETING OF
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. HE DID MAKE THE MOTION RIGHT
YEAH CHARNOCK MADE A MOTION.
WHAT THREE TIMES THIS MOST THIS
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.