LET'S GET LET'S CALL THIS SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT
EQUALITY TO ORDER WE DO CONTINUE
TO WELCOME- THE PUBLIC IN PERSON
VIA TELECONFERENCE SIS SYSTEMS
SO FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENTED TODAY'S PARTICIPANT AS
HIS ART TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THE NOT ON THE PHONE
THE PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS. EIGHT
SEVEN SEVEN TWO TWO SIX EIGHT
ONE SIX THREE- THE ACCESS CODE
IS SEVEN THREE SIX TWO EIGHT
THREE FOUR. OUR HOLDING ARE
COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN THE-
STREET BUILDING WE ASK GOD ALL
THE MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE COME
DOWN BE PRESENT HERE IN ROOM
TWELVE HUNDRED SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH THE QUORUM AND- BUT WE
WILL START AS A SUBCOMMITTEE WE
GOT TEN BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA
FOR ON THE CONSENT COUNTY THAT'S
ITEM FOR SB FOUR OH SIX ITEM
FIVE SB NINETY ONE I ITEM SEVEN.
SB THREE ZERO ONE ITEM EIGHT SB
. THREE SIXTY SEVEN. AND- WE
WILL HAVE TO ADOPT THE RULES WE
HAVE A QUORUM AND ALL THE REST
BUT LET'S GET STARTED WITH
CENTER STERN WHO'S GOING TO
PRESENT. TO US- I AM ONE S. B.
TWELVE. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
CHRIS WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE CENTER STERN. YOU GOT A
BABY. COMING WITHIN HOURS YES
MAYBE IMMINENTLY YEAH
CONGRATULATIONS THIS EQ IS BEEN
THE HUB OF LIKE A LOT OF BIG
LIFE EVENTS THIS YEAR. IT'S
BEAUTIFUL OUT OF PROVIDE THAT ON
THE VERGE OF A YEAH. NEW LIFE
HERE- BUT WITH THAT IN MIND
THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
ENDING TO U. S. B. TWELVE AND
TWENTY THIRTY IS NOT FAR AWAY
YEAH- EVEN THOUGH ALL OUR KIDS
WILL YOU KNOW SOMEHOW BE LIKE
EIGHT NINE TEN YEARS OLD BY THEN
IT'S SORT OF HARD TO IMAGINE
IT'S GOING TO BE HERE BEFORE WE
KNOW IT AND UNFORTUNATELY THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW. I
DON'T THINK HAS AN ADEQUATE
ENOUGH ROAD MAP FOR HOW WE GET
TO FROM TWENTY TWENTY THREE TO
TWENTY THIRTY WE'RE GONNA HAVE
TO MAKE SOME REALLY BIG
DECISIONS ABOUT WE AND HOW WE
IMPLEMENT- NOT JUST THE CURRENT
PROGRAM BUT HOW WE REACH BEYOND.
BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING
FAST ENOUGH- AND THAT'S TRUE YOU
KNOW JUST LOOK OUT YOUR WINDOW
FLOODING SACRAMENTO AND-
FREEZING SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND
ELSEWHERE THE DAMAGES ARE VERY
VERY REAL AND THE LIABILITIES TO
OUR STATE ARE MASSIVE. I DON'T
THINK WE CAN AFFORD TO GO SLOW-
AND TO LAND SOMEWHERE- THAT
SOUTH OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S
RECOMMENDING WITH THE USE ON
TRACK FOR AND RIGHT NOW
CALIFORNIA. IS NOT ON TRACK TO
KEEP UP WITH THE REST OF THE
WORLD WHEN IT COMES REDUCING
CLIMATE EMISSIONS SO SB TWELVE.
WOULD NOT ONLY INCREASE OUR
AMBITIONS- BUT THANKS TO THE-
THE PATHWAY CARVED OUT IN THE
ANALYSIS HEREBY YOU QUEUE IN THE
JOINT HEARING WE HAD. BELIEVE
LAST WEEK IN TWO WEEKS AGO TWO
WEEKS AGO LOSING TRACK OF TIME
BUT- BECAUSE THAT JOINT HEARING
AND SOME OF THE WORK WE DID ON
OVERSIGHT OF THE AIRBOARD. I
THINK YOU NOW THIS IS RIGHTLY
POINTS OUT- THAT. IT'S NOT JUST
ABOUT THIS NUMBER 55% OR 48% OR
40% IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW WE GET
THERE AND WHAT DECISIONS ARE WE
WILLING TO MAKE AN- RIGHT NOW-
THEIR BOARD FOR INSTANCE DIDN'T
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE- INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT IN THEIR MODELING
TO. DETERMINE HOW FAR WE CAN GET
BY TWENTY THIRTY- AND YET THE
COSTS. DRIVERS THAT ARE GOING TO
BE ASSOCIATE WITH THE IRA COULD
MAKE TECHNOLOGY IMPLEMENTATION
INCREDIBLY A LESS EXPENSIVE THAN
IS CURRENTLY MODELED FOR. SO IN
THE AIRPORTS AS WE CAN REACH 40%
BY TWENTY THIRTY. I THINK
THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTING
FOR ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOL
KIT SO THIS BILL PUSHES. THEM TO
LOOK AT THOSE ENHANCE TARGETS-
AND- AND AGAIN TO THE COMMITTEE
ANNOUNCES POINT. I WANT TO WORK
WITH YOU ALL TO FLESH OUT BEYOND
THE TARGETS WHAT THAT
IMPLEMENTATION ROAD MAP LOOKS
LIKE. THERE'S A PROVISION FOR
INSTANCE IN THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY CODE IF YOU LOOK BACK TO
THE ORIGINS OF AB THIRTY TWO
CALLED THIRTY EIGHT FIVE SIXTY
ONE. SUBSECTION B. THAT SECTION
SAYS THE AIRPORT NEEDS TO LAY
OUT. WHAT MIX OF DIRECT
EMISSIONS REDUCTION MEASURES
MARKET BASED MEASURES AND OTHER.
FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVES
THAT ARE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE
OUR TWENTY TWENTY TARGETS. I
REALLY NEVER UPDATED THAT
STATUTE. AND SO IT ONLY REQUIRED
THEN LOOK AT TWENTY TWENTY SO
THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT MAKES A
MEASURES. WHEN THEY PROPOSED
THEIR SCOPING PLAN I'M THE PAST
FEW MONTHS. AND SO THAT LACK OF
SORT OF ROAD MAP YES WE HAVE A
COMPASS BUT WE NEED DETAILS- THE
CONSEQUENCES ARE ARE
SIGNIFICANT- TO. TO OUR NATURAL
RESOURCES TO OUR FORESTRY IN AG
COMMUNITIES TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES LIVING ON
THE FRONT LINES AND SO RIGHTLY
SO I THINK THE NUMBER
STAKEHOLDERS HAVE. CONCERNS AND
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LACK OF
CLARITY. AND I JUST WANT TO
EXPRESS YOU KNOW I'VE I'VE MET
WITH BOTH- SOME OF THE INDUSTRY
AND LABOR GROUPS THAT HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS MEASURE BUT
ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITY- THAT ALSO HAS A-
VARIETY OF CONCERNS ABOUT. SORT
OF NOT JUST A NUMBER WHAT'S THE
ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION ROADMAP SO
I ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S A
STRANGE. CONFLUENCE OF- AND OF
OPINION THERE WHERE EVERYONE'S
GOING TO WANT TO SEE MORE DETAIL
OF THIS ADMINISTRATION I DON'T
PERSONALLY THINK IT'S THE
LEGISLATURE IS THE BEST TO MAKE
ALL THOSE DECISIONS AND SORT OF.
PICK PATHWAYS SO- WE'RE GONNA
HAVE TO TRY TO FIND A BALANCE
BETWEEN EXACTLY HOW MUCH DETAIL
WE GET INTO IN THE LEGISLATURE
OF. WHAT WE WANT TO FUTURE CAP
AND TRADE TO BE DO WE WANT TO
FUTURE OF CAP AND TRADE WE GONNA
REDEFINE THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. DO
YOU WANT TO HAVE NOTE STATE
TRADING IN CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE OWNS OR IS THAT CAN
ACTUALLY DRIVE UP COSTS WITHOUT
MUCH BENEFIT- THOSE ARE THE
KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK
THE AIRPORT HAS TO WRESTLE WITH-
I THINK WE NEED TO WRESTLE WITH-
AND- MOST IMPORTANTLY. I THINK
YOU KNOW THIS WAS THE GOVERNOR'S
FIFTH PILLAR OF HIS CLIMATE PLAN
THAT WE PUSH THROUGH THE SENATE
LAST YEAR. IT IS CERTAINLY
UNFINISHED BUSINESS IN THE
ASSEMBLY FAILED TO PASS THIS
BILL. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE
GOING TO PASS THE SAME EXACT
BILL AGAIN THIS YEAR AND SEND IT
TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK I THINK
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO MORE.
GOVERNOR IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO
HEAR THE LEGISLATURE'S OPINIONS
AND- YOU KNOW GET A LITTLE MORE
HANDS ON ABOUT ALL THIS SO I
WOULD REALLY INVITE THIS
COMMITTEE. TO PUT THEIR-
OPINIONS. INPUT ON THIS
LEGISLATION AND CERTAINLY-
COMMITTEE STAFF TO DIG IN AND
HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH A GOOD
PIECE OF WORK PRODUCT HERE IN
THE COMING WEEKS BEFORE WE GO
DOWN TO APPROPRIATIONS AND YOU
GUYS HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF.
AGAIN NOT JUST A NUMBER BUT
DETAILS AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA
ASK YOUR BOARD. TO GET BACK TO
US AND WHAT SO WITH THAT- I'VE
GOT TO LEAD WITNESSES HERE I
DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO
STRUCTURE TIMING AND ALL THAT
BUT- I THINK A VERY VESTED WITH
CLIMATE CENTERS HERE STANDING IN
FOR DOCTOR DAN KAMIN AND THEN
WAS. OUR MAYOR WITH
ENVIRONMENTS. THANK EXPERIENCES
GO RIGHT AHEAD WITH YOUR
WITNESSES. YEAH STOP WAS A
QUORUM- FIRST. SURGERY PLEASE
CALL. THE MEMBERS. ALLEN HERE.
ALLEN HERE. DOLLY YOUR- DAILY
HERE GONZALEZ. HER TADO. HERE
RICARDO HERE MENJIVAR. MAJEURE
HERE. WHEN YOU IN HERE SKINNER.
OKAY SO WE HAVE A QUORUM. AND
LET'S PROCEED. SO WE KNOW WE'RE
NOT. WE'RE NOT DOING WITNESSES
AT THE TABLE. HAS THAT WORK.
ALLEN FRIENDLY. OKAY WELL YOU
MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU ARE
FRIENDLY JUST THE RULES ARE NOT
FROM IT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT
GOOD MORNING AT YOUR ALLEN IN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THANK
YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS PERRY
VESTER FROM THE CLIMATE CENTER.
IS A U. N. GENERAL SECRETARY
SAID IT IS CODE RED FOR HUMANITY
. TWO HUNDRED TWENTY MEDICAL
JOURNALS HAVE WARNED US THAT ARE
RAPIDLY WARMING. CLIMATE POSES
THE GREATEST SINGLE THREAT TO
PUBLIC HEALTH. AND THAT THERE IS
NO TEMPERATURE RISE STATED SAFE
. WITH THE STATE BEING PUMMELED
BY ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS MADE MORE
INTENSE BY CLIMATE CHANGE THE
TIME FOR XCELERATED CLIMATE
ACTION IS NOW. IT'S CALIFORNIA
HAS SHOWN WITH A. B. N. S. B.
THIRTY TWO S. B. ONE HUNDRED AND
MORE RECENTLY THE TWENTY THIRTY
FIVE Z. VEHICLES ESTABLISHING
BOWL TARGET SINCE MARKET SIGNALS
UNLEASHES PRIVATE INVESTMENT. IN
MAJOR INNOVATION. LAST YEAR
ENERGY INNOVATION USING THEIR
ENERGY POT POLICY SIMULATOR
MODEL FOUND THAT A 55% REDUCTION
SCENARIO CREATES MILLIONS OF
JOBS IN CALIFORNIA IN THE COMING
DECADES. BY TWENTY THIRTY AT
LEAST MORE THAN TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND ADDITIONAL JOBS. THAT'S
AND THAT'S AN JOBS GAINED NET IT
IS NOT A JOB KILLER IT IS A JOB
GENERATOR WE BELIEVE THAT A 55%
TARGET IS ACHIEVABLE THE
EUROPEAN UNION IS SET A GOAL OF
62% BY TWENTY THIRTY THE U. K.
THEY SET A GOAL OF SIXTY EIGHT
PERCENT. THE CLIMATE CENTERS
REPORT BASED ON ENERGY
INNOVATIONS MODEL FOUND THAT WE
COULD ACHIEVE A 65% REDUCTION BY
TWENTY THIRTY WHICH WOULD HAVE
MANY BENEFITS FOR CALIFORNIA WE
HOPE THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL
CONSIDER ADOPTING THIS TARGET
COMMENSURATE WITH THE SCIENCE
SERIOUSLY. TO ENSURE THAT OUR
APPROACH IS EQUITABLE WE NEED TO
DO TWO THINGS FIRST WE MUST MOVE
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE A REPORT
BY E. THREE SHOWS THAT WE COULD
HAVE WE COULD AVOID FIVE
THOUSAND DEATHS PER YEAR FROM
FOSSIL FUEL POLLUTION BY
REMOVING MOVING MORE RAPIDLY BY
DECARBONISING BUILDINGS AND
TRANSPORTATION. THOSE FATALITIES
ARE OCCURRING NOW. IN A
PREDOMINANTLY IN COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR SECOND WE MUST ENSURE THE
CLIMATE SOLUTIONS DO NOT
INCREASE POLLUTION BURDEN ON
THAT THESE COMMUNITIES FACE NOW
- WE SUPPORT ENDING GUARDRAIL
LANGUAGE TO THE BILL AS
SUGGESTED BY OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE COLLEAGUES. PLEASE VOTE
YES ON SB TWELVE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH NICE WITH US
HERE. GOOD MORNING TERRY MEMBERS
MELISSA ROMERO WITH CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS. CALIFORNIA
HAS NOT ONLY AN OPPORTUNITY HERE
BUT A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE A
GLOBAL LEADER ON CLIMATE. THE
LATEST CLIMATE SCIENCE SHOWS US
THAT THINGS ARE MUCH MORE DIRE
AND MUCH SOONER THAN PREVIOUSLY
PREDICTED. THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS
NOT IN THE DISTANT FUTURE AND
WE'RE NO LONGER JUST ACTING FOR
FUTURE GENERATIONS WERE. ACTING
TO SAVE OUR OWN LIVES. IF THE
EXTREME HEAT WAVE LAST SEPTEMBER
PROLONGED DROUGHT AND EXTREME
STORMS OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS
THAT HAVE CAUSE FLOODING AND
DEVASTATION IN MANY PARTS OF THE
STATE. WEREN'T EVIDENCE ENOUGH
THAT THIS LEGISLATURE HAS A
MORAL OBLIGATION TO ACCELERATE
THE TRANSITION TO A CLEAN ENERGY
ECONOMY WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT IS.
AND THE DETAILS OF HOW WE
IMPLEMENT THIS XCELERATED GOAL
ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. WE HAVE
TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE ADDRESS
THE CLIMATE CRISIS AT THE SCALE
AND PACE THAT WE NEED TO SAVE
OUR OWN LIVES WE DON'T CONTINUE
PRACTICES THAT KEEP MANY
COMMUNITIES BEARING THE BRUNT OF
POLLUTION. IT IS POSSIBLE AND WE
CAN AND WE MUST ADDRESS
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM ON OUR PATH
TO CLIMATE JUSTICE. BECAUSE WE
HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. WE ARE
DRIVERS SB TWELVE TO ACCELERATE
OUR SEATS CLIMATE TARGETS THANK
YOU. WHAT THANK YOU. OKAY LET'S
GO AHEAD AND TAKE- OTHER FOLKS
WHO WANT TO VOICE THEIR SUPPORT
FOR THE MEASURE. YEAH OF THE
ROOM. HELLO. YOU AHEAD GOOD
MORNING I WILL RETURN BEHALF OF
THREE FIFTY SACRAMENTO CLIMATE
ACTION CALIFORNIA. KANETO VALLEY
THREE FIFTY SOUTH LAND
LEGISLATIVE ALLIANCE AND THREE
FIFTY HUMBOLDT. AND WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD MORNING
CRISTINA SYRINGE WITH THE CENTER
FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND
IT'S- IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
GUARD REAL LANGUAGE PROPOSED AS
WELL. THANK LIVE BUT LATER ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
JANET ****. FOR IT CLIMATE
ACTION CALIFORNIA THANKS SO MUCH
SENATOR STERN IT'S A GREAT BILL
WE STRONGLY SUPPORTED. GOOD
MORNING CHARLIE MEMBERS ARE
EAGER ON BEHALF OF MID PENINSULA
REGIONAL OPEN SPACE DISTRICT
CALIFORNIA COMPOST COALITION AND
SERIES IN SUPPORT OF US
BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU THANK YOU.
IT CALLING ON BEHALF OF THEIR
PRODUCTS AND SUPPORT. I'D WITH
ALSO FREE CALIFORNIANS OF SB.
TWELVE VVC LEADERSHIP COUNSEL
FOR JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY
ON BEHALF OF A GROUP OF-
ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ORGANIZATIONS. WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE OTHERS COMMITMENT
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AND
CONSIDERATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE AS WE REACH OUR CLIMATE
GOALS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSORS IN THE COMMITTEE GOING
FORWARD THANKS SO MUCH. THANK
YOU- GREAT LET'S GO ON TO THE
PHONE LINES NO WE'RE NOT IN THE-
HI. EXCELLENT NEW SYSTEM OKAY
LET'S GO TO LEAD WITNESSES
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE. BY THE. ALL
RIGHT HEY THERE. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS YOU CAN MOVE
THE MAKE UP A LITTLE BIT THANK
YOU GREAT THANK YOU THE BETTER
YES. TALA MORNING MISTER CHAIR.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS BRADY
VETTING ON HERE BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK CENTER
STERN FOR- YOU KNOW CREATING AN
OPEN DOOR AND ACTUALLY STARTING
A CONVERSATION WITH US WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS
THAT. YOU KNOW THAT THE
CONVERSATION YOU'VE YOU'VE
SHARED WITH THAT- COMMITTEE THIS
MORNING- IN WEEK YOU KNOW
MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER TO
ACTUALLY. HAVE A LOT OF THE
SAME- WE HAVE MEMBERS ARE
INVESTING IN SUSTAINABILITY
FUELS- MEMBERS THAT ARE YOU KNOW
SEQUESTERING WORKING LANDS. AND
MEMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY
PUSHING TO INCREASE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY AND UPTAKE AND
ADOPTION AMONGST THEIR- THEIR-
CONSTITUENTS AS WELL- HOWEVER
UNFORTUNATELY WE DO HAVE TO YOU
KNOW BASE OUR OUR POSITION ON
WHAT'S IN PRINT- SO WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
GIVEN THAT- YOU KNOW THE DUE
DELIBERATION THAT'S OFTEN
INFORMED AS PART OF THE SCOPING
PLAN- IN THE MODELING THAT'S
NECESSARY HASN'T REALLY BEEN.
BEEN TAKEN CARE OF HERE YOU KNOW
THERE ARE COST CONCERNS THAT
ASSOCIATE WITH THAT CALIFORNIANS
RIGHT NOW ARE. THEIR POCKETBOOKS
ARE STRETCHED AND SO NEED TO BE
MINDFUL OF HOW YOU KNOW WITH
THAT SAME CODE SECTION I THINK
IT ACTUALLY IS THIRTY EIGHT FIVE
SIX ONE- SAYS THAT THIS NEEDS TO
BE DONE IN A COST EFFECTIVE AND
TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE MANNER
AS WELL TO- SO WE'D WE HOPE
THAT. YOU KNOW THAT APPROACH IS
TAKEN RATHER THAN. FINDING I
THINK WE CALL THEM ARBITRARY
TARGETS BUT FINDING TARGETS-
THAT ARE BEYOND WHAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE MUCH
BEEN SCOPED OUT. AND ENSURING
THAT WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THOSE
TARGETS IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY
DOES MINIMIZE THE COSTS YOU KNOW
WE HAVE A- DELICATELY BALANCED
ENERGY SYSTEM YOU KNOW AND IT'S
GONNA ITS CURRENT FRONT I THINK
WE'RE ALL. PAINFULLY AWARE OF
HOW TALK WE BALANCE IT IS- SO
ENSURING THAT YOU KNOW WHEN WE
DO. AND A GREAT NEW ENERGY.
CAPACITY AND THE GRADE THEY WERE
ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO SO IN A COST
EFFECTIVE WAY AND ENSURE THAT
IT'S DONE IN A WAY THAT
ACTUALLY- CAN DELIVER THE MOST
CAPACITY IN THEM IN A MEANINGFUL
WAY AS WELL TO. SO YOU KNOW WHAT
WITH THESE REASONS WERE RESPECT
OPPOSED AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. MAJOR I AM NOT AS
TALL AS HIM. GOOD A GOOD MORNING
JEREMY SMITH YOUR BEHALF OF THE
STATE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL AND NOT IN A
POSITION TODAY- AS WE ALL KNOW
CALIFORNIA CONTINUES TO BE A
CRISIS. WETHERBY EXTREME
WEATHER. AND OVER BURDENED
ELECTRIC RED OR SKY WATCHING
WRITING COSTS FOR. COST OF
LIVING FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS-
FAMILIES LEAVING THE STATE IN A
PRECEDENT NUMBERS. AS CALIFORNIA
COMPANIES ARE ANNOUNCING MASS
LAYOFFS IN THE STATE IS LOOKING
AT A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR
DEFICIT. WE CLEAR. THE BUILDING
TRADES BELIEVES IN CLIMATE
CHANGE. BECAUSE OF THAT A
GENERATION AGO. WE STARTED TO
TRAIN OUR PREMISES IN UTILITY
SCALE SOLAR. THE WIND. AND WE
FOUGHT FOR THE ENTITLEMENTS. AND
BUILT THE VAST MAJORITY. OF
UTILITY SCALE WIND AND SOLAR
MAKING CALIFORNIA A GLOBAL
LEADER. WE ALSO HAVE THE UNIQUE
POSITION UNDERSTAND THE ELECTRIC
GRID RENEWABLE POWER GENERATION.
AND HOW HARD WORKING FAMILIES.
INCLUDING OUR OWN MEMBERS ARE
STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF
EVERYTHING. FROM HEATING THEIR
HOMES. TO WATCH IN THE PRICE OF
A DOZEN EGGS SKYROCKET.
ESCALATING CLIMATE GOALS WHEN
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD BY THE
REGULATORS THAT WE CANNOT REACH
EXISTING GOALS IS RECKLESS. IN
THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WILL
HAVE WORKING FAMILIES THE
HARDEST. THEY WILL DRIVE THE
COST OF LIVING UP EVEN MORE. BUT
WILL NOT DO ANYTHING TO DECREASE
CALIFORNIANS DEPENDENCE ON OIL
AND GAS IN THE NEAR TERM. IT'LL
JUST MAKE EVERYTHING MORE
EXPENSIVE AND RISKY EVEN MORE
MASS LAYOFFS. WE SHARE THE
AUTHOR'S COMMITTEE ENVIRONMENT
WE APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS
WE'VE HAD WITH HIM ALREADY. THAT
IS WHY WE HAVE APPEAR BEFORE YOU
IN SUPPORT OF OFFSHORE WIND.
CARBON CAPTURE NEW CLEAN FUELS
AND ANY NUMBER OF GREEN ENERGY
SOLUTIONS AND HOPE TO DO THAT IN
THE FUTURE. AND WE REMAIN
COMMITTED TO A CLEANER
CALIFORNIA FOR ALL BUT WE CANNOT
DO IN A WAY THAT RISKS
COLLAPSING. THE PEREGRINA MAKING
NECESSITIES LIKE HERE HOMES OR
DRIVING TO WORK OR SCHOOL
LUXURY. THAT PRICES EVEN MORE
CALIFORNIANS ARE THE STATE WERE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE TODAY THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH I'VE
LET'S HEAR FROM OTHER FOLKS WHO
WANT TO VOICE THEIR OPPOSITION
THE BILL. HERE IN PERSON. AND
THEN WE WILL BE TAKING ALL OF
THE SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION ON THE
PHONE LINES AFTER THIS. RIGHT
THIS POINT ME TO SIGN ME TO USE.
GOOD MORNING NICK CHAPPIE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TRUCKING ASSOCIATION AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MEMBERS
ROB SPIEGEL CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION THANKS
THANKS FOR. MORNING MR CHEN
MEMBERS MATTHEW WELL WITH
WESTERN GROWERS ALSO OPPOSED.
WILLIAMS SHARED THAT CLEAR A MAP
OF THE WESTERN STATES PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION WERE OPPOSED THANKS
ACT THANK YOU. OKAY SO THE NEW
SYSTEM WAS HAVING EVERYBODY CALL
IN. ON BOTH SIDES- SO LET'S HEAR
TO THAT THIS YEAR FROM THE PHONE
LINES. THANK YOU HERE IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION YOU MAY PRESS ONE
AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE
AND THEN ZERO FOR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION NOT. JUST FOR FOLKS
REMEMBER THIS IS SB TWELVE AS
HENRY STEARNS AS B. TWELVE.
THANK YOU WE WILL GO TO LINE A
TWENTY SEVEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
NINETY MINUTES BUT ON BEHALF OF
THE AGRICULTURAL AND HE
CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION AND
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU NEXT WE'LL
GO TO LINE TWENTY TWO YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. HELLO ONE FIVE FOURTEEN
REPRESENTING THE GLENDALE
ENVIRONMENTAL. IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU NEXT BOTTOM LINE TWENTY SIX
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. MORNING
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS ROGER
DICKINSON. OF CIVIC WELL
FORMERLY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
COMMISSION AND SUPPORT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU NEXT GOAL
LINE A TWENTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI MY NAME IS SARAH
BUNDRAGE WITH PUBLIC CITIZEN- WE
HAVE OVER FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
MEMBERS. FOR IT- SB TWELVE. AND
I JUST LIKE TO POSE- THE NOTE
AND QUESTION YOU KNOW WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT TO
HARD WORKING CALIFORNIA'S
THERE'S PROBABLY NO GREATER
IMPACT ON THE CLIMATE AND THE
EXAMPLE SO SORRY WE'RE ALL IN.
WE IS ASKING FOR FOLKS TO VOICE
THEIR SUPPORT AFFILIATION OR
HAPPY TO TAKE CAN TESTIMONY FROM
FOUR OKAY I FIRST THAT ALL ALL
GOOD WITH THE PORTABLE THANK YOU
MUCH APPRECIATE THANK YOU THANK
YOU MEXICO. YOUR NEXT ONE BE LAW
THIRTY YOUR LONG IS OPEN. TWENTY
CHEN MEMBERS MAKING CLEVELAND
WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT LINE IS TWELVE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI STEVEN KING WITH
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB TWELVE. ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU MISTER KING. I
NEXT- NEXT CALL. THANK YOU THE
LINE NINE YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
GOOD MORNING CATHY SCHAEFER
DAMPEN OUT OF VALLEY CLIMATE
REALITY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT LINE TWENTY FOUR
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YES GOOD
MORNING VALERIE COUNTRY HADN'T
WITH THREE FIFTY BAY AREA ACTION
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU THE
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE OF THIRTY
TWO YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF
THE VICTORIA ROME WITH ENERGY
FEET AND SUPPORT THE INFO. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE NO
FURTHER SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
KILL THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL RIGHT
EVERYBODY THAT'S THE NEW SYSTEM
. WE'RE STICKING WITH IT.
RESHAPED THE CALLERS AND LET'S
NOW BRING THE ITEM TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS COMMENTS
THOUGHTS OPEN LET'S ALSO LET'S
CALL QUORUM FIRST LET'S DO THAT.
HOW ABOUT THAT. WE'VE ALREADY
ESTABLISHED THE COURT. I'M SORRY
WANTED THE RULES. GOSH KIDDER'S
UP A LOT LAST NIGHT ALL RIGHT-
YES SO LET'S LET'S LET'S GO FOR
THE RULES WHAT THE DOCTOR
COMMITTEE ROLE SO- WITHOUT
OBJECTION. THE RULES ARE ADOPTED
LET'S GO TO NOW TO HEAR ABOUT
THE BILL. QUESTIONS COMMENTS
THOUGHTS I SENATORS US. YES
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND I
JUST WANNA THANK YOU- SENATOR
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD I'M
PROUD AT JOINTS CO AUTHOR I
BELIEVE OR PRINCIPAL CO AUTHOR-
THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT
THE END OF THE DAY I THINK YOU
KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA STILL
HAVE A- A FIGHT HERE AN IN
CALIFORNIA TO SOME DEGREE BUT- I
THINK OVER. 90% OF S. AND P.
COMPANIES NOW PUBLISH ESG
REPORTS IN SOME FORM- AND SINCE
TWENTY SEVENTEEN THIS IS BEEN
YOU KNOW THE- SORT OF REPORTING
OF THE DAY AND I THINK CLIMATE
RISK OF COURSE IS SOMETHING WE
NEED TO KNOW ABOUT NOT JUST FROM
INDUSTRY FOR BUT FOR THE GENERAL
PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO- TO BE ABLE
TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE NEED TO
PIVOT IN TERMS OF CLIMATE. RISK
AND CHANGE AND ALL OF THE ABOVE
AND SO WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS BILL TO
SEE HOW WE CAN. AFFORD. AS I
MENTIONED. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
IT'S MY FIRST POLICY COMMITTEE
VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. SO YOU
KNOW I GIVE A LOT OF A ATTENTION
TO THIS BILL YOU KNOW I MEAN THE
PHASE WHERE I'M STILL READING
EVERYTHING- YOU KNOW BUT- AS A
NEW MEMBER HERE NOT COMING UP
HERE I'VE- SOAKED UP A LOT OF
INFORMATION. NO SOME OF THINGS
THAT WE'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN
HEARING IS THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN
ON TRACK. TO MEET THE GOALS NOW
AND WHILE NO ONE HERE HAS TO
CONVINCE ME TO SAY THAT THIS IS
IN A CRISIS I KNOW IT'S A CRISIS
. COME ON BOARD TO SUPPORT YOU
KNOW TO GET US CLOSER. TO
CREATING A FEW ACTUAL FUTURE FOR
OUR OUR MY CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S
AND SO FORTH. I WOULD ASK FOR
SOME TEETH HERE I WOULD ASK FOR
A PLAN TO GET TO THAT GOAL NOT
SURE IF THIS IS THE MILITARY ME
WHERE I NEED TO SEE. THE MISSION
BE ACCOMPLISHED AND HOW IT'S
GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. THAT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME- AND YOU
KNOW I. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE
CAN HAS- THIS SYMBOLIC GREAT
HEADLINES YOU KNOW WHEN I PLUG
YOU'D FOR BEING AT THIS FRONT.
OF THE SAUCE SENATOR- BUT I WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT. YOU KNOW
WE'RE JUST NOT. PASSING
HEADLINES BUT THAT IN FIVE YEARS
WE CAN ACTUALLY DO ANOTHER
HEADLINE AND SAY CALIFORNIA
ACTUALLY REACHED IT. SO YOU KNOW
THE NOW THIS IS SPOKE YOU HAD
SOME CONCERN ABOUT YOU KNOW NOT
BEING ABLE TO REACH THE FORTY
PERCENT. I'M LOOKING AT CARBS
RECOMMENDATION OF 48% I
RECOGNIZE IN YOUR INTRODUCTION
YOU SAID THAT. THIS MAY NOT LOOK
LIKE. WHAT THE END PRODUCT IS SO
YOU KNOW I AM GOING TO BE
SUPPORTER OF THIS BUT- YOU KNOW
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU
CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
READY FOR ME TO IT. I GOT. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR. GOOD TO SEE
YOU AS SENATOR STERN. JOKE A
COUPLE QUESTIONS I. YOU IN YOUR
OPENING STATEMENT YOU SAID. YOU
KNOW I WANT TO COMMITTED TO KIND
OF HELP ALONG AND WE WERE SO AYE
AYE AYE AGAIN I'M KIND OF ALONG
THE SAME LINES AS A- CENTRE
MENJIVAR WHERE. WHERE'S THAT
WHERE'S THE DETAIL SO WE HAVE
THE L. A. REPORT WE JUST WENT
THROUGH THE HEARING OF. WEEK OR
SO AGO AND WE'VE NOT WE'VE NOT
MET ANY MARKS WHEN IT COMES TO
LIKE HOW YOU DO IT I MEAN I KNOW
THEIR SUGGESTIONS FOR. DERROTAR
DERRY J'AI GESTURES IN THOSE
TYPES OF THINGS BUT REALLY HOW
ARE WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM.
THE BUSINESS COMEDIAN I'M
HEARING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS AND
I'M AS I'M ASSUMING YOU ARE AS
WELL- JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO
I GOT A CALL FROM. SOMEBODY
WHO'S ON A FIXED INCOME WHO'S-
GAS RATES WENT UP- POWER IS
BEING SHUT OFF- MANY TIMES
THROUGH THE YEAR. AND THEY'RE
LIKE HEY WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING
UP THERE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
THIS IS THIS IS REAL AND I AND
I. TOTALLY I'M NOT SOMEBODY WHO
SAYS THE CLIMB IS NOT CHANGING
IT IS I'M A FARMER LOOK I
GUARANTEE IT'S CHANGING. BUT
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT HOW WE DOING
IT THAT'S THE POINT IT'S LIKE WE
HAVE FLOODS NOW. IN AND THE
WATER'S GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE
OCEAN. WE NEED THAT WATER WHEN
WE HAVE DROUGHTS WHICH WE DO WE
TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW LAST YEAR-
CONTINUING. DIABLO CANYON
BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY NEED THAT.
POWER SO. I GUESS THE QUESTION
IS YOU KNOW. WE CAN SET ALL THE
GOALS IN THE WORLD. AND THEY'RE
GREAT FOR HEADLINES THEY'RE
GREAT AND YOU YOUR NAME'S GONNA
BE ON YOUR CHAMPION AT. BUT IT
THERE'S DETAIL BEHIND IT AND
CALIFORNIANS ARE SUFFERING. SO
WHERE'S THE DETAIL I WOULD TELL
ME HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY
ACHIEVE THIS. WHEN WE HAVEN'T.
ACCORDING TO THE L. A- AND- WHAT
WE HEARD- TWO WEEKS AGO. WE
HAVEN'T MET ONE OF THOSE GOALS
YET. AND THE COSTS ARE
SKYROCKETING CALIFORNIA AND
CALIFORNIANS ARE LEAVING.
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO
LIVE HERE THAT'S THE BUT- THAT'S
THE NUMBER ONE REASON THEIR
LEAVING THEY CAN'T AFFORD. TO
BUY A HOME THEY CAN AFFORD TO.
TO TRAVEL YOU VMT YOU GOT.
VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED IN HERE
HOW IS THAT ACHIEVABLE AND WE
HEARD FROM- SENATOR CAFIERO
DURING THE HEARING. ABOUT
VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED FOR HER
DISTRICT AND- NO SOLUTIONS SO
WHERE'S THE SOLUTION TO HOW WE
MEET THESE GOALS. THANKS FOR THE
QUESTION. AND I'LL TRY TO
RESPOND ALSO TO CENTER MENJIVAR
AS EXCELLENT POINT AND IN
RESPONSE AS WELL- WE WANT THIS.
VEHICLE THIS BILL TO BE THE
PLACE FOR THAT REFORM AND- YOU
KNOW WHETHER IT'S A MATTER OF.
TELLING AIRBOARD TO COME BACK TO
US WITH THOSE DETAILS ARE
SUPPLYING THEM OURSELVES I THINK
IS THE BIG QUESTION RIGHT SO DO
WE WANT TO LAY OUT- THOSE
DECISIONS DO WE HAVE A CAP AND
TRADE PROGRAM FOR INSTANCE THAT
EXTENDS BEYOND TWENTY THIRTY AND
WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT TO LOOK
LIKE DO YOU WANT THE
LEGISLATURE. WEIGHING IN ON THAT
RIGHT NOW. THE LEAD THE AIRPORT
IS BASICALLY KICK THAT CAN DOWN
THE ROAD AND NOT DECIDED- SO WE
HAVE A SCOPING PLAN ESSENTIALLY
WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE ROLE OF
A MARKET BASED MECHANISM WOULD
BE. I THINK THE FOLKS OF THE
CHAMBER WOULD ARGUE. AND OTHERS
WOULD SAY THAT'S THAT'S GONNA
ENSURE COST EFFECTIVENESS THAT'S
INSURANCE COSTS ARE LOW.
VITAMINA JESSICA MUSEET WITH
THAT THAT MEANS WE MAY BE
SACRIFICE ZONES AND THEY'LL BE
TRADING IN OUR AREAS. THE
AIRPORT IS SORT OF AVOIDED THAT
QUESTION IF YOU WILL. AND SO. I
THINK EITHER WE NEED TO ANSWER
THAT QUESTION OR PUSH THEM TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT'S
SORT OF THE DECISION POINT IS.
DO WE MAKE THIS BILL A VERY LONG
BILL WHERE WE SORT OF SPELL OUT
OUR OWN SCOPING PLAN IN FOR TO
MAKE ALL THOSE DECISIONS. OR DO
WE JUST TELL THEM YOU KNOW
WITHIN SOME KIND OF TIME FRAME.
LAY OUT THAT ROAD MAP AND WE
WANT TO SEE SPECIFICALLY SAY.
JOBS NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH.
THESE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THERE
WERE SCENARIOS THAT THEY DIDN'T
. MODEL- SO. THE THAT'S REALLY.
THAT'S WITH THAT'S WITH HIS
BILL'S GOING TO BE WHAT I WOULD
ASK FROM YOU AND FOR ANYBODY
HERE TODAY IS- TO KEEP THIS BILL
MOVING ALONG. AND TAKE A LOOK AT
IT BEFORE IT GETS TO
APPROPRIATIONS OR THE FLOOR- IN
THE C. VAN. IF IT MEETS YOUR
TEST AND I WOULD SAY. YOU KNOW
TO THE FOLKS FROM AGRICULTURE
WITH CONCERNS I WANT TO HEAR
WHAT THOSE ARE AND HOW TO WORK
THEM IN BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S
BIG POTENTIAL FOR. SEQUESTRATION
NATURAL WORKING LANDS BUT TO
YOUR POINT IF THE VM T. GHG
REDUCTIONS DON'T SHOW UP. IF WE
DON'T END UP. BUILDING MORE
INFILL INTO RURAL AND SUBURBAN
AREAS ARE THAT STARTS TO FAIL.
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO MEET THAT
SHORTFALL. THIS BILL IS INTENDED
TO DO. FORCE THE ADMINISTRATION
TO SHOW US WHERE THAT SHORTFALL
IS GOING TO BE MET. AS OPPOSED
TO SORT OF. WAITING SO SAY
TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT AND THEN
WE'RE SAY OUT WE'RE SHORT. 10%
OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE IN THAT WE
DON'T KNOW SO- I RECOGNIZE THAT
YOU'RE VOTING SOMETHING THAT
SPARKS TODAY. SO I APPRECIATE IF
YOU CAN'T BE THERE BUT- BUT
THAT'S CERTAINLY IN THE
INTENTION IS TO. TO FLUSH THAT
OUT AND MAYBE IN MORE DETAIL
HERE OR MAYBE MAYBE IT MINISTRY
CLEAR. THIS IS A FOLLOW UP I'D
LIKE TO SAY THAT- YOU KNOW. I'D
BE HAPPY THIS BILL DOESN'T TALK
ABOUT. THEIR BOARD AND THEIR-
UNELECTED AUTHORITY THERE
APPOINTED FOLKS WHO HAVE NOT.
HAVE NOT MET THE GOALS AND WHEN
THEY CAME BACK TO IT IF IT IF
YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN THIS
BILL. YOU KNOW SOMETHING I LOVE
TO TALK ABOUT ABOUT US TAKING
CONTROL BACK. OF WHAT THE
AIRPORT IS JUST AUTHORIZED TO BE
ABLE TO GO DO ON THEIR OWN AND
THEY FAILED ON ALMOST EVERY
SINGLE FRONT I LOVED IT THAT
THIS BILL TO TALK ABOUT. WE'LL
TALK ABOUT. THE INCREASING
PERCENTAGE OF A HIGHER MARKET
AND THEY FAILED ON EVERY COUNT
SO FAR WE HAD A- WE HAD A
HEARING. SENATOR BRADFORD ASKED
FOR AN AUDIT OF THE AIRPORT AND
I WENT TO THAT HEARING I DON'T I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THERE WAS A
JOINT HEARING WITH THE-
ASSEMBLY. AND THE AUDIT CAME
BACK WHERE THEY FAILED ON EVERY
FRONT AND SO. I HAVE NO
CONFIDENCE IN THE AGENCY TO BE
ABLE TO GET IT DONE. IF YOU
WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT ARE HAPPY
TO BE. LOOKING AT LEGISLATION
THAT ACTUALLY GIVES THE POWER
BACK TO US. AND WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THOSE THINGS. I'M A
CERTIFIED. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT
DOESN'T MATTER IF I CAN'T
BALANCE THE BOOKS AND COMPETE
WITH CHINA. AND NEVADA AND
OREGON I I'M NOT HERE. AND I IT
DOESN'T MATTER YOU YOU WIN THEN
YOU HAVE NO EMISSIONS FOR ME
BECAUSE I'M OUT OF BUSINESS. BUT
WE'RE STILL GETTING THAT FOOD
FROM SOMEWHERE STILL GONNA IT
WAS TO GET THAT LECTURE CITY.
AND OUR MANY BILLS ABOUT THAT SO
I'D LOVE TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. AND WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT JOBS- YOU KNOW WE HEARD
FROM THE BUILDING TRADES ABOUT
JOBS. YOU CREATE JOBS WHEN YOU
GO OUT AND BUILD. OFFSHORE WIND
ABSOLUTELY DO. BUT WHAT JOB DID
YOU PLACE. GET GET DISPLACEMENT
EVER TALK ABOUT THE JOB TO GET
DISPLACED. BY THE COST UP AND
BUSINESS LEAVING CALIFORNIA AND
WHEN THEY AND THEY ARE LEAVING.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I'M NOT
TALKING ABOUT THAT TEN THOUSAND
JOBS IT WOULD. OR SILICON VALLEY
I'M TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE WHO
ARE LEAVING. TAKING THEIR
BUSINESSES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
AFFORD TO STAY HERE BUT STILL
PRODUCING THE PRODUCT SOMEWHERE
ELSE. AND SHOULD BEGIN IN THE
CALIFORNIA SO. TODAY I'M NOT
GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THERE I
HAVEN'T SEEN IT I DON'T HAVE THE
CONFIDENCE. IN THE FACT THAT
WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GIVE. THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OUR
CONSTITUENTS A PLAN TO SAY HEY.
THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE DOWN THE
COST OF ENERGY JUST GONNA SAVE
THE PLANET YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE
ABLE STAY IN CALIFORNIA. SO
APPRECIATE YOU BRING THE BILL
FORD BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE
THESE CONVERSATIONS. AND I'LL BE
HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT. THESE
AGENCIES THAT ARE TOTALLY OUT OF
CONTROL AND MISSING THE MARK
EVERY TIME WHETHER IT'S- CPUC.
WHETHER IT'S THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD EPA THEY'RE ALL
MISSING THE MARK AND WE'RE
GIVING THEM A LOT OF POWER THAT
WE SHOULD BE. WE SHOULD HAVE
RIGHT HERE SO THANK YOU SENATOR
. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN. CENTER
I APPRECIATE THE BILL. I GUESS-
WE HAD. A HEARING WITH THE L. A.
ILL TO TELL US. IF WE ARE
MEETING THE TWENTY THIRTY. MARK
WE'RE NOT. IN A MEAN ICE I WAS
THERE AT THE HEARING. I HEARD
HIM- WE'RE NOT MEETING THE MARK.
NOW YOU'RE- BRINGING IT HIGHER.
SO WHEN WE HAVE NO PLAN FROM
RIGHT NOW WHAT TWENTY TWENTY
THREE. TO MEET THE MARK IN
TWENTY THIRTY. NOW YOU'RE-
MAKING IT HARDER. TO EVEN MEET
IT IN TWENTY THIRTY OR TWENTY
FIFTY. RIGHT ON. THE OTHER PART
FOR ME IS THAT. MY CONSTITUENTS
. OUR SUFFERING. INFLATION COSTS
IS SO GREAT. AND LAST YEAR WHEN
GAS PRICES WENT UP ALMOST NINE
DOLLARS PER GALLON. IN AREAS IN
MY DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T
EVEN GET TO THE GROCERY STORES
THEY'RE NOT PICKING BETWEEN A
GALLON OF MILK VERSUS A GALLON
OF GAS. I'M I HAVE AREAS IN MY
DISTRICT THAT ARE THE POOREST OF
THE AVOID THE PORES OF THE PORES
IN ORANGE COUNTY. AND THEY ARE
RELIANT ON GETTING TO WORK WITH
THEIR CAR. THE BUS SYSTEM
DOESN'T WORK WELL FOR US IT
TAKES. TWICE THE AMOUNT OR THREE
TIMES LONGER TO GET TO WORK.
VERSUS A CAR. AND WE CAN TALK
ABOUT FOLKS GIVING INCENTIVE FOR
FOLKS TO BUY E. V. HEYBRIDGE. MY
CONSTITUENTS PART OF MY DISTRICT
CAN'T EVEN AFFORD. TO BUY THOSE
CARS THEY'RE SO EXPENSIVE. I'VE
BEEN IN THE MARKET TRYING TO
FIND WHEN I CAN'T FIND ONE. FOR
US EITHER AND SO YOU KNOW. I
GUESS IS THAT. YOU KNOW WE'RE
HERE LAST YEAR WHEN GAS PRICES
WENT UP SO HIGH WE HAVE TO THEN
REIMBURSE. THE RESIDENTS OF
CALIFORNIANS. FOR SOME HELP TO
GIVE THEM A LITTLE RELIEF AND
HELP. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS IN
TERMS OF WILL THIS ACTUALLY
RAISED MORE COSTS IN THE FUTURE
OR IS IT ON THE LOWER THE COST.
OF GASOLINE- ARE WE GOING TO.
YOU KNOW MAKE IT I MEAN INSTEAD
OF I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
INCENTIVE IS TO BUY THE V. EIGHT
THOUSAND WHATEVER. IT IS IT'S
STILL I MEAN THESE CARS ARE LIKE
203-040-5060 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
YOU CAN'T FIND A TWENTY THOUSAND
DOLLAR HOOKER FOUND ANYWHERE.
THESE DAYS FOR EV'S ARE HYBRID.
I'M I'M I'M LOOKING AT THE
PERSPECTIVE OF. A YOUNG FAMILY
WHO HAS YOUNG CHILDREN. YOU HAVE
THEM I HAVE THEM- WHOSE BOTH
PARENTS ARE WORKING. AND CAN'T
LOOK I MEAN LOOKING AT A CARD
OF. OF AS VERSES MILL AND THE
GAS. OUR THE GAS. AND THE
NATURAL GAS GOES UP LIKE JUST
THINK IT WAS. SO EVERYTHING'S
GOING UP AND AT THE END OF THE
DAY WOIO IN ITSELF THOUGH
AFFECTS ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT
WE DO OR HAVE IN IN OUR LIVE NOT
JUST GASOLINE FOR A CAR. I'M SO
I'M I'M LOOKING BALANCING. WHAT
YOUR GOAL IS BUT AND ALSO BEING
REALISTIC AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT THE MEAT OF IT IS AND I
KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED. WE'RE
NOT REALLY HERE TO. DO THAT PART
OF THE WORK YOU WHAT THE
MINISTRATION TO DO IT- AND THE
AGENCY BUT- IT'S KIND OF HARD
FOR US TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT
JUST LIKE. WELL HERE'S THE BAG
BUT IT'S EMPTY I DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S IN THE BAG YET. RIGHT
THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I THINK
FOR ABILITY DOES NEED TO BE AT
THE HEART OF OUR ENTIRE CLIMATE
CONVERSATION BECAUSE- IF WE
CAN'T SHOW WAY OUT OF POVERTY IN
CALIFORNIA AND- WITH THE CLIMATE
AMBITION THAT'S COMMENSURATE
WITH. GLOBAL LEADERSHIP THAN
WHAT APPROVING A LEADERSHIP
MODEL RIGHT WE'RE JUST SHOWING.
SOME KIND OF A NEW ELITE FORM OF
- YOU KNOW OF SORT OF ENERGY
POVERTY I THINK THAT THE KEY IS
GOING TO BE WELL A THINGS
OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL.
BY GETTING PROTECTIONS IN PLACE
AGAINST WINDFALL PROFITEERING
FROM THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY OR
FROM THE OIL INDUSTRY SO. THAT'S
SORT OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE BUT I
THINK. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE
SORT OF ECONOMICS BEHIND THIS
THING THE MODELING. WE'RE REALLY
CONFIDENT IN. IT'S THE SAME
MODELING THAT DROVE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT. THE FOLKS IN
ENERGY INNOVATION DID THAT
DOWNSCALE CALIFORNIA MODEL. AND
SO THAT THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLE
THE TALK ABOUT THIS MAY BE TOO
EXPENSIVE TODAY- THE PROJECTIONS
ARE WE'RE GONNA HAVE UNDER
THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLAR CARS
COMING ON. ON TO THE LOTS IN THE
NEXT YEAR INTO. AND THE VEHICLE
SALES HAVE SPIKED DRAMATICALLY
USED CAR SALES ARE UP
DRAMATICALLY SO. IF THE AIRPORT
IN OTHER WORDS DIDN'T ANTICIPATE
HOW CHEAP BATTERIES ARE ABOUT TO
GET. HOW CHEAP THESE CARS ARE
ABOUT TO GET AND THIS FLOOD OF
YOU KNOW ALMOST A TRILLION
DOLLARS OF CAPITAL MOVING INTO
THIS SECTOR IF THAT'S NOT BEING
ACCOUNTED FOR. AND HOW DO WE
EVEN KNOW- THAT WE'RE NOT GOING
TO HIT IT RIGHT I THINK THE
ISSUE IS. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT
WE'RE NOT ON TRACK. TO HIT 40%
IT'S THAT THEY HAVEN'T SPELLED
OUT THE DETAILS OF HOW WE'RE
GONNA GET THERE. AGAIN WE CAN
USE CAP AND TRADE TO HELP US GET
THERE OR NOT. WE'RE GONNA SORT
OF DEPART FROM THAT- ARE WE
GONNA RELY MORE ON INCENTIVES
AND CARROTS OR THEN WE'RE GONNA
BE STICKS DO WE NEED A FOR
INSTANCE ACCELERATE THE TWENTY
THIRTY FIVE. LIGHT DUTY VEHICLE
STANDARD AND MAKE THAT FASTER OR
THE RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD
WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF THE
POWER SECTOR THE CENTRE DOLLY
TALKED ABOUT. DECIDED TO
ACTUALLY GO FASTER THE PC JUST
ORDERED ANOTHER THREE GIGAWATTS
OF RENEWABLE POWER. SO IT'S NOT
A DYNAMIC ENOUGH CALL CLIMATE
MODEL THAT THE AIRBOARD USING.
TO LAY OUT FOR US WHAT THOSE ARE
THE CHOICES ARE THAT'S WHAT I
WOULD SAY IT'S TOO HIGH LEVEL
VISION TWENTY FORTY FIVE. NOT
ENOUGH OKAY IF YOU TAKE THIS
ROUTE YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH
MORE COST HERE JOB LOSS HERE BUT
BIGGER. HEALTH BENEFIT HERE
VERSES. PATH NUMBER YOU KNOW
PATH BE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
SAY. MORE JOB CREATION BUT MORE
INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS- THINGS LIKE
THAT SO. THAT'S WHERE. LOOK WE
CAN TRY TO FILL THAT BAG WITH
ALL THOSE PIECE OURSELVES BUT-
PART OF ME WRESTLES WITH. HOW
MUCH EXPERTISE WE'VE GOT HERE TO
ACTUALLY DO THAT. I THINK IF
THEY OPEN UP THEIR BOOKS. SHOW
THEIR MODEL MORE DETAIL. AB SOME
OF THESE KEY FOR. AND AGAIN KEPT
PUSHING. I THINK THEN WE CAN. WE
CAN GO HOME AND REALLY BE CLEAR
ABOUT WHAT. WHAT THIS PATH
ENTAILS SO. THAT'S MY- I
APPRECIATE THAT IF YOU CAN'T BE
THERE TODAY WITHOUT. THAT BAG
FULL- BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET IT
FULL HALFWAY FULL FOR. YOU
CENTER DOLLY BEFORE THE FLOOR
YOU'LL TAKE A SINGLE. YEAH AND I
RESHAPE THAT IT'S JUST THAT.
WE'RE WE HAVE A CURRENT GOAL
THAT WE CAN'T EVEN ME. AND I DO
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW. IF YOU
CAN'T MEET YOUR CURRENT GOAL I
DON'T KNOW PUSHING THAT GO
FURTHER. IS GOING TO MAKE IT
EASIER- I DON'T THINK IT IS I
MEAN THEY HAVE TO ANSWER IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS MONTH
ACTUALLY YEAH. SO I MEAN IF THE
ANSWER IS ALREADY THERE FOR THE
CURRENT GOAL. THEN I WOULD HAVE
MORE CONFIDENCE. IN GOING HIGHER
BUT SINCE THERE ISN'T AND WE'RE
NOT MEETING IT AND- AND I LOOK
AT THE L. A. ELEMENT L. A. O. IS
AN AGENCY THAT IS NOT ARE NOT
FOR US NOT FOR ANY BUT THEY'RE
JUST A- INDEPENDENT AGENCY THAT.
THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND IT
WOULDN'T YOU KNOW A LOOK FROM
THE OUTSIDE- AS NO YOU KNOW-
WITH NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE-
YEAR TO US THE GOVERNOR NOBODY.
IT'S JUST THEIR SUPPORT THEIR
JOB IS TO GO IN AND LOOK AT
THESE THINGS AND JUST GIVE US
THEIR OPINION- AND SO. WHEN THE
L. A. L. TELLS YOU YOU KNOW US
AND IN A HEARING SAY THAT YEAH I
WE JUST HOW YOU GUYS GOING TO
MEET THAT GOAL- AND THERE ISN'T
REALLY ANYTHING IN DETAIL RIGHT
NOW AND HOW TO MEET THAT GOAL
SO. YOU KNOW PUSHING THE GOAL
POSTS HIGHER. I DON'T I JUST
DON'T IT MAKES IT TO ME IT JUST
IT JUST IMPOSSIBLE. NOW IT'S
BECOME COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE
THEN- YOU KNOW ANYTHING SO LET
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE. CENTER
TO. THANK YOU MISTER. SENATOR
YOU FOR- I BRINGING THIS TO OUR
ATTENTION. YOU KNOW GLASS YEAR I
DID NOT SUPPORT A- THAT WAS. TO
THIS ONE. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A
LOT OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED. BUT THE- THE REALITY
IS THAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS AS
EVERYONE KNOWS. IT'S HERE. IT'S
HERE ALREADY AND WE HAVE TO DEAL
WITH IT- I. HAD AN INTERESTING
CONVERSATION JUST LAST NIGHT
WITH WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE
NAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY
AND CHILDREN. AND I SAID WELL. I
DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO HAVE
CHILDREN BECAUSE WHY WOULD I
WANT TO BRING CHILDREN INTO.
THIS ENVIRONMENT OF. CLIMATE
CRISIS AFTER CLIMATE CRISIS
RIGHT WE JUST IT. DOESN'T LOOK
GOOD. THAT'S THE REALITY- BUT I
ALSO BELIEVE A LOT AND THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE
TALENT THAT WE HAVE HERE. AND I
DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO GET
TO THE SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE THAT
YOU'RE GETTING YOUR TRYING TO-
THAT WE NEED TO GET TO THE
SCHOOL. WE NEED TO REDUCE
EMISSIONS BOTTOM LINE UP BUT WE
ALSO NEED TO. LOOK INTO
ADAPTATION IT AFFORDABILITY
THAT'S GOT TO BE PART OF IT IT
CAN'T BE- LEFT A SITE- AND THE
OTHER THING IS THAT ALL THOSE
THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL
SHOULD BE IN SUPPORT SO HOW DO
WE GET THOSE. IN OPPOSITION AND
SUPPORT BECAUSE THE CLIMATE
CRISIS JUST DOESN'T IMPACT. WE
ARE ONE COMMUNITY IN OR ANOTHER
OBVIOUSLY IT IMPACTS SOME
COMMUNITIES MORE THAN THAN
OTHERS BUT- IT IMPACTS US ALL.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE
NEED TO REDUCE EMISSIONS WE NEED
TO ALL COME TO THE TABLE AND
TODAY I'LL BE COMING TO THE
TABLE AND SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.
MOVING FORWARD THIS BILL ALSO
DOESN'T IMPACT. YOU KNOW
FINANCIALLY THOSE THAT ARE
ALREADY MOST HARMED BY THE
CLIMATE CRISIS. SO I WILL
RESERVE MY RIGHT TO VOTE AGAINST
IT DOWN THE ROAD IF I SEE THAT
THE YOU KNOW THOSE ISSUES ARE
NOT BEING ADDRESSED BUT- I WILL
SUPPORTED IN COMMITTEE TODAY.
THANK YOU. AS SOON AS. HI THERE
WAS. JUST WANTED TO CLEAR IF I
HAD THE WRONG BILL- ERROR. BUT
OF COURSE I SUPPORT THIS BILL-
AND I WILL ALIGN MY COMMENTS
WITH THE AUTHOR THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING LATE
THE- TOTAL FULL DISCLOSURE- BUT
I WILL. ALIGN MY- COMMENTS WITH
YOU JUST YESTERDAY WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION-
AND OF COURSE I J. A AND ALL OF
THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE
GOING TO BE COMING TO
CALIFORNIA. TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
DECARBONIZING WHILE ALSO
CREATING GOOD JOBS. WE CAN DO
BOTH- I BELIEVE THESE ARE VERY
AMBITIOUS GOALS ON TOP OF
AMBITIOUS SCHOOLS BUT I DO
BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HIT THEM IF
WE TRY. WITH THESE DOLLARS THIS
IS A ONCE. IN A LIFETIME.
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RECEIVE
THESE DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND ACTUALLY APPLY
THEM TO WHERE WE NEED MOST IS
NOT FAIR. BUT THERE FARMWORKERS
AND THE CENTRAL VALLEY THAT ARE
FLEEING RIGHT NOW FROM
ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS AND FROM
FLOODING- BECAUSE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE. IT'S JUST NOT FAIR WE
NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND I KNOW
IT SEEMS VERY. VERY AMBITIOUS
AND YES THE L. A. O. HAS SAID WE
KNOW WE DON'T HAVE. THE PLAN IN
PLACE BUT IT DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR
ALL THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS
WERE GOING TO BE RECEIVING. AND
THE LEVERAGE THAT WE HAVE IS
CALIFORNIANS TO BE ABLE TO GET
THESE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT SMALL
BUSINESS TO SUPPORT THE GOOD
JOBS WHILE ALSO ENSURING THAT
WE'RE HITTING OUR AMBITIOUS
CLIMATE GOALS. SO I COMMEND YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS BACK- IT NEEDS
TO GET DONE AND WILL DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT OUR
CALIFORNIA- ECONOMY IN THE.
PROCESS THANK YOU THANK YOU.
OKAY THANK YOU SENATOR I NOTICED
I WAS THE LAST FOR WORK TO BE
DONE HERE BUT- AS YOU SAID THIS
IS ONE OF THE GOVERNOR'S
PRIORITIES AND- YEAH. HOPEFULLY
WE CAN GET THIS FULLY FLESHED
OUT IN AND OUT CONTINUE THIS
CLIMATE PROGRESS. SO WITH THAT-
I THINK I HEARD. WE WOULD SOUND
LIKE A MOTION FROM- CENTER
GONZALEZ. AND I LET YOU CLOSE.
WELL THANK YOU- THANK YOU FOR
THE REST CONVERSATION. AND
ESPECIALLY NEAR STAFFORD FOR
DIGGING IN WE REALLY ARE GOING
TO. COUNT ON THIS COMMITTEE AND
THE MEMBERS HERE ESPECIALLY
THOSE TAKING A CHANCE ON US
TODAY- TO BRING YOU A BILL THAT
STATE THAT MEET SOME OF THESE
CONCERNS YOU ALL HAVE- BEFORE
YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN-
BUT I WOULD JUST SAY. YOU KNOW
MAY FEEL IMPOSSIBLE TO PULL OFF
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO HERE'S A
STATE BY TWENTY THIRTY OR AND
CERTAINLY BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE
BUT- WE NEED TO RE IMAGINE THIS
AND I THINK WE ALL NEED TO PUSH
OURSELVES OUTSIDE OUR COMFORT
ZONES. AND THAT MEANS YOU KNOW
WHAT DO WE WANT TO BUILD. WHAT
DO WE WANT TO SAY YES TO. WHAT
ARE THOSE PLANS- THAT GO BEYOND
PLANS INTO ACTUALLY DOING
THINGS- AND THOSE ARE GOING TO
BE TOUGH DECISIONS AND MAYBE THE
LEGISLATURE IS THE ONE THAT HAS
TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS- OR RISK
THE IRA IN SOME OF THESE OTHER
MONEY PASSING US BY. WE DO THINK
WE'RE RISK OF THAT. BUT IF WE
PUT A PLAN TOGETHER AND START TO
GET POLITICALLY BRAVE- I THINK
WE CAN GET THAT DONE SO- THANK
YOU FOR YOUR DEBATE- AND I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR- I BOUGHT.
SO MUCH I CENTER PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. THE MOTION. THE MOTION IS
PASSED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ALAN HI
ALAN I DOLLY NO. DOLLY NO THE
DALLAS. GONZALEZ I HER TADO.
MENJIVAR AND OF OUR AYE. WHEN
NO. SKINNER SKINNER I WILL HOLD
THE ROLE OPEN FOR CENTER TAUGHT
AT A THANK YOU SO MUCH CENTER IN
THE AREA ANOTHER BILL- THIS IS.
NUMBER ITEM TWO SB TWO SIXTY
ONE. YES THANK YOU YOUR MIND IF
I PROCEED PLEASE SIR I'M GREAT
I'M- SO. SB TWO SIXTY ONE IS A-
BIT OF A REDUCTION BILL THAT DID
NOT PASS IN MY LAST YEAR AS
BEFORE FORTY NINE WHICH SOME OF
YOU MAY HAVE VOTED ON- RIGHT NOW
. THERE'S A LOT WE DON'T KNOW-
AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE ROAD
MAP FOR ACHIEVING OUR CLIMATE
TARGETS BUT- WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
JUST ABOUT EMISSIONS PERIOD.
SUMMIT CENTER GONZALEZ REFERRED
TO EARLIER AND YOU'RE GONNA BE
VOTING ON IT ANOTHER RELATED
MEASURE LATER TODAY. WHEN IT
COMES TO THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES
OPERATING NOT JUST IN CALIFORNIA
BUT ACROSS THE WORLD WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE
LARGEST CORPORATIONS ON THE
PLANET- BANKS FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS INVESTORS PENSION
FUNDS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE OUR
RETIREMENT- IN THEIR COFFERS AND
HOPING THAT IT'LL BE THERE WHEN.
WHEN WE ACTUALLY NEED IT- THERE
IS RISK FROM CLIMATE ON THOSE
FUNDS ON THOSE ASSETS AND THIS
BILL HERE TODAY WOULD SIMPLY.
REQUIRE A BASIC LEVEL OF
REASONABLE DISCLOSURE ABOUT SUCH
AS WHAT THOSE EMISSIONS ARE BUT
MORE CLEARLY WHAT THE RISKS ARE
SO IF YOU OWN- REAL ESTATE
ASSETS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND HALF OF THOSE
ARE IN EXTREME FIRE ZONE AREAS-
WE'RE GONNA WANT TO KNOW THAT.
I'M THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY
RECOGNIZE THAT IN FACT AND TOOK
UP THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS
LEGISLATION ON THEIR OWN WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE THIS
LAST YEAR. TO DISCLOSE THEIR
CLIMATE RISKS BECAUSE THEY KNOW
THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN
THEIR PORTFOLIO AND WHETHER
ENSURING A PREFERRED PLANER IN A
FIRE ZONE THAT RISK IS THERE-
WHETHER YOU'VE GOT A YOU KNOW A
FAMILY FARM- THAT SELLS TO SOME
LARGER SUPPLIER OUT THERE AND-
SAY THE BEEF INDUSTRY OR DAIRY
INDUSTRY AND YOU KNOW THAT
THERE'S- THREATS FROM EITHER
DROUGHTS OR FROM SUPPLY CHAIN
ISSUES. THOSE ARE RISK WE NEED
TO KNOW ABOUT THE GOVERNOR. TOOK
A LEAD ON THIS AND THE PUCK PAST
GOVERNOR DID AS WELL ALONG WITH
SOME OF THE MAJOR GLOBAL
LEADERS- AT TO YOU AND CLIMATE
SUMMITS AGO TO GET OF TRILLIONS
OF DOLLARS GLOBAL CAPITAL TO
START- SHOWING. THE RISK ON
THEIR BOOKS AND CHARACTERS IN
CALPERS WHILE FALLING SHORT IN
SOME OTHER WAYS- AND THIS IN
THIS FRONT HAS ACTUALLY DONE
THAT DISCLOSURE SO RIGHT NOW
BASICALLY ARE PENSION FUNDS ARE
DISCLOSED IN THE CLIMATE RISK
THEY'VE GOT. BUT A LOT OF
PRIVATE PAY THANKS PRIVATE
EQUITY ANOTHER INSTITUTIONS ARE
NOT. AND SO WE THINK THAT PUTS
NOT ONLY ARE PENSIONS THAT
UNFAIR ADVANTAGE THE OTHERS. OUT
THERE BUT FRANKLY OUR BUSINESSES
I CAN'T AFFORD TO FLY BLIND AND
NEITHER CAN WE AS TAXPAYERS. SO
THIS BILL WOULD. LEAN ON THE
TASK FORCE FOR CLIMATE FINANCIAL
DISCLOSURES- WHICH IS- YOU KNOW
HUNDREDS OF COMPANIES AND
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AROUND
THE WORLD TRYING TO FIND BEST
PRACTICES IT DOESN'T MICROMANAGE
EXACTLY. WHAT THOSE PRACTICES
OUGHT TO BE WE CAN TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THAT BUT- I THINK IT
PUTS CALIFORNIA ON A LEADING
PATH TOWARD TRANSPARENCY IN A
TIME WHERE. RUN THE COUNTRY YOU
HAVE OTHER STATES ACTUALLY
FORCING NOT JUST THEIR PENSIONS
BUT THEIR BANKS TO BURY THEIR
HEADS IN THE GROUND TO SAY
IGNORE CLIMATE RISK. DON'T TALK
ABOUT IT AND IF YOU DO WE'RE
ACTUALLY GONNA BOYCOTT YOU.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO BUSINESS
WITH YOU. THE THOUGHT OF FORCE A
COMPANY TO BLINDFOLD ITSELF AS
YOU'RE PROPELLING. TOWARDS A
HARROWING FUTURE WHERE YOU DON'T
TRULY KNOW THE RISK. IS THE
DEFINITION OF BUSINESS
MALPRACTICE. AND IT'S SOMETHING
THAT IN CALIFORNIA I THINK WE DO
BUSINESS BETTER. I THINK WE CAN
LEAD IN THIS IN THIS REGARD. IS
GOING ON ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY
THIS DEBATE. HAPPENING IN OUR
CONGRESS AS WE SPEAK THE BYNUM
INSPIRATION ITSELF IS DEFENDING-
THIS THIS EXACT KIND OF PLAN AND
SO I HOPE WE CAN. TAKE A STEP
AND KEEP MOVING THE NEEDLE HERE.
TODAY WITH THIS- VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD DISCLOSURE BILL
THAT- THOSE TIMES COME SO
RESPECT ESCRIBE. THANK YOU
CENTER LET'S GO TO YOUR
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. WHEN YOU
COME ON UP. WAS WORKING HARD
TODAY. AREA VERY GOOD MORNING
CHALLEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS- MANY
MISTER SAXON SPEAKING TODAY ON
BEHALF OF SERIES A NATIONAL
NONPROFIT THAT HAS WORKED FOR
DECADES WITH INFLUENTIAL
INVESTORS. MAJOR COMPANIES. AND
POLICY MAKERS IN CALIFORNIA AND
ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO BUILD A
MORE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY.
THEORISTS BELIEVE CALIFORNIA HAS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE GOLD
STANDARD ON REQUIRING CLIMATE
RELATED CORPORATE MASTERS
CLOSURES WITH SB TWO SIXTY ONE.
AND WE'RE PLEASED TO SUPPORT AND
SERVE AS A SPONSOR FOR THE BILL.
THE CLIMATE CRISIS POSES
MATERIAL FINANCIAL RISKS TO
COMPANIES AND INVESTORS AND
SYSTEMIC RISKS TAKE FINANCIAL
MARKETS. AND REQUIRES URGENT
ACTION BY MARKET STAKEHOLDERS.
THIS IS MY LAST YEAR MORE THAN
FIVE HUNDRED INVESTORS
REPRESENTING THIRTY NINE
TRILLION IN ASSETS UNDER
MANAGEMENT CALL THEM GOVERNMENTS
ACROSS THE WORLD. TO STRENGTHEN
CLIMATE DISCLOSURE STANDARDS
INCLUDING THROUGH MANDATORY
REPORTING. MEETING BUSINESSES
AND INSTITUTIONS ALSO KNOW THAT
CONSISTENT COMPARABLE AND
RELIABLE INFORMATION AT SCALE IS
NECESSARY TO FULLY ASSESS THEIR
RISK DISCLOSURE. RISK EXPOSURE
AND NAVIGATE THE PATH TO NET
ZERO FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHY
THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES SUPPORT
THE DISCLOSURE OF CLIMATE RISK
INFORMATION OR DISCLOSE THAT
INFORMATION THEMSELVES.
INCLUDING NINETY TWO OF THE ONE
HUNDRED LARGEST PUBLIC COMPANIES
IN THE WORLD. HOWEVER THE
CURRENT STATE OF VOLUNTARY
CLIMATE DISCLOSURE IS AN
ADEQUATE FOR INVESTORS TO
EVALUATE THE CRIME AT RISK
FACING THE COMPANIES IN THEIR
PORTFOLIO. IN THE TWENTY TWENTY
TO LETTER IN SUPPORT OF SB FOUR
FOUR NINE THE EARLIER VERSION OF
THE SPELL. INVESTORS NOTED THAT
IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO ACCEPT
VOLUNTARY CLIMATE DISCLOSURE
FROM SOME COMPANIES BECAUSE
PARTICIPATION IS LIMITED AN
EXISTING TO STICK DISCLOSURES DO
NOT PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE.
DECISION USEFUL INFORMATION
NEEDED TO SUPPORT A SUSTAINABLE
RESILIENT AND PROSPEROUS FUTURE
. IN ADDITION AS THIS AS SENATOR
STERN MENTIONED. THE SECURITIES
AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION IS
CONSIDERING A PARALLEL CLIMATE
DISCLOSURE REGULATION WHICH IS
EXPECTED TO INCLUDE T. CFTO
LINED A WRIST IS BECAUSE YOUR
REQUIREMENTS. BUT THE SEC CAN
ONLY COVER PUBLICLY TRADED U. S.
COMPANIES. THESE DISCLOSURES ARE
NEEDED FROM LARGE NON LISTED
ENTITIES AS WELL TO COVER THE
ENTIRE U. S. ECONOMY. AS THE
PHRASE GOES YOU CAN'T MANAGE
WHAT YOU CAN'T MEASURE. SB TWO
SIXTY ONE WILL CLOSE THIS
CRITICAL INFORMATION GAP BETWEEN
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC CORPORATIONS.
AND SERVE AS A KEY COMPLEMENT
FOR THE SEC'S CLIMATE DISCLOSURE
RULE. IN CALIFORNIA WILL SOON
BECOME THE FOURTH LARGEST
ECONOMY IN THE WORLD MAKING IT
WELL POSITIONED TO JOIN THE SEC
AND REQUIRING THESE DISCLOSURES.
FINALLY SB TWO SIXTY ONE WILL
ENSURE STANDARDIZED RELIABLE AND
COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE RISK
DISCLOSURES. ENABLING INFORMED
DECISION MAKING ON THE CLIMATE
CRISIS IS TO STOMACH IMPACTS ON
CALIFORNIA'S ECONOMY AND CAPITAL
MARKETS. FOR ALL THE REASONS
STATED ABOVE SERIOUS
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE ON THIS MEASURE THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION
. MELISSA ROMERO OF CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS I WANT TO
THANK ALL OF THE AUTHORS OF THE
BILL PACKAGE THAT SB TWO SIXTY
ONE AS PART OF- IN ADDITION SB
TWO FIVE THREE. AND SB TWO FIVE
TWO. OF THE CLIMATE CRISIS ISN'T
JUST COMING FOR OUR SIXTY FIVE
TO SIXTY ONE THANK YOU. THE
CLIMATE CRISIS IS NOT JUST
COMING FOR OUR LIVES OUR
LIVELIHOODS AND OUR HEALTH. IT'S
COMING FOR OUR ECONOMY. IF WE
IGNORE IT THE MATERIAL AND
FINANCIAL RISKS THAT COME ALONG
WITH THE CLIMATE CRISIS. THE
CLIMATE CRISIS CAN AND WILL
DESTABILIZE CAPITAL MARKETS AND
LEAD TO SERIOUS NEGATIVE
CONSEQUENCES FOR FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS IN THE ECONOMY. WE
NEED STANDARDIZED COMPREHENSIVE
AND MANDATORY CLIMATE RISK
DISCLOSURE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
ACTIONABLE INFORMATION TO
ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS
IMPACT ON CAPITAL MARKETS. AND
WE URGE THE COMMITTEES I VOTE ON
SB TWO SIXTY ONE FOR THOSE
REASONS THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL
RIGHT. LET'S AT WHO WANTS TO
VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE BILL WHO'S
HERE IN PERSON. YOU CAN JUST
COME UP TO THEM I CAN. INTRODUCE
YOURSELF AND YOUR AFFILIATION.
JANETTE. THANKS SO MUCH JANET
**** FOR CLIMATE ACTION
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANKS A
MILLION. IT'S REALLY. THE A
TRILLION RIGHT. THANK YOU
MORNING CHRIS SCURRY WITH THE
SAN FOR BY. DIVERSITY SUPPORT ME
HERE. MORNING WILL PREPARE FOR
THREE FIFTY SACRAMENTO AND THREE
FIFTY HUMBOLDT THANK YOU IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING CHOICE FOR MARTINEZ
WAY WITH CALIFORNIA STATE
TEACHERS RETIREMENT SYSTEM IN
SUPPORT. MORNING VERY BEST
THEY'RE FROM THE CLIMATE CENTRE
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU ALL
RIGHT- LET'S NOW HEAR FROM THE
PRIME OPPOSITION WITNESSES. AT
THE MICROPHONE. HI THERE MAKE
SURE I GET ARE AT THIS TIME GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS BRAVE
IN ENGLAND IN THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. IF YOU'RE
ALL AWARE- CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE REPRESENTATIVE OF
FOURTEEN THOUSAND LARGE MEDIUM
AND SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA AND WE'RE COMMITTED
TO DOING OUR PART- TO ADDRESS
THE CLIMATE CRISIS WE HAVE
MEMBERS THAT HAVE- THAT ARE
SIGNATORIES THE CLIMATE PLEDGE
AND JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT.
THE LAST TIME THAT THIS BILL IS
BROUGHT UP AS BEFORE FORTY NINE
THERE WERE SIXTY ONE
SIGNATORIES- AND I THINK AND NOW
THEIR IT CLOSE TO LIKE FOUR
HUNDRED SO THE NUMBERS HAVE
ESCALATED PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY
AND- YOU KNOW. I DO THINK THAT
DOES NEED TO BE SOME BIG
KNOWLEDGE IN SOME FASHION- CAL
CHAIR HOWEVER THOUGH CAL
CHAMBERS RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO
THIS BILL IS PREMATURE AT THIS
TIME AS SENATOR STERN NOTED THAT
SEC AND THE BY DEMONSTRATION ARE
ACTIVELY ENGAGING- AND- IN A WAY
TO OFFER GUIDANCE. THAT THE
CLIMATE'S CLOSURES- AND WE
ANTICIPATE THOSE- THAT REMAKING
TO BE. COMMENCED AND- FINALIZED
VERY SOON- SO THIS BILL IS JUST
A LITTLE PREMATURE AND IT'S TIME
AND THAT THAT THE NATIONAL
REQUIREMENTS- IN A WEEK BEFORE
THE NATIONAL PARLIAMENTS SHOULD
PREEMPT- WHAT HAPPENS HERE AT
THE AT THE- LOCAL LEVEL OR DID
LOCAL JURISDICTIONAL LEVEL AT
WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS IT'S INCLUDED IN
THE T. CFT- IT DOES NOT. THAT
TIME THERE IS A- PREEMPTION
REQUIRE NOT RECKON. AND IN IT-
AND ALSO- THE BILL IN ITS
CURRENT FORM DOESN'T REALLY
CONTEMPLATE THAT- WHICH IS A
CONCERN FOR US AS WELL TO-
DISCLOSURES AS REQUIRED BY SB
TWO SIXTY ONE COULD MAKE
CALIFORNIA MUCH MORE CHALLENGING
PLACE TO DO BUSINESS AS WELL-
REFERRED MEMBERS THAT. THAT THE
BILL PAINTS WITH A BROAD
BRUSHSTROKE COULD CAUSE A VERY
CAPITAL THIS NECESSARY TO
TRANSITION AND ADDRESS CLIMATE
RISK MITIGATION- AS COMPANIES
ACCESS TO. YOU KNOW SEEK ACCESS
TO THE CAPITAL THAT'S NECESSARY
THIS TRANSITION THIS UNLIKELY
THAT WORK. WOULD BECOME MORE
CHALLENGING FOR THEM TO
ACTUALLY- ACCESS THE CAPITAL DUE
TO THE INCREASED RISK ASSOCIATED
WITH THE COMPANY ITSELF IF
THEY'RE- COMBINED INTO A SECTOR
THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE-
APPROPRIATE FOR THEM- VERTICALLY
WITH THAT THE WAY THAT THIS.
THIS LANGUAGE IS DRAFTED- THEIR
NUMBER OF OCCASIONS THAT SB TWO
SIXTY ONE IS ACTUALLY IN
CONFLICT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
AS WELL TO- WHICH IS A LITTLE
UNCOMFORTABLE FOR US BUT- IT.
THE REPORT ITSELF NOTES THAT IT
SHOULD BE DONE ON A VOLUNTARY
BASIS YET WE'RE CODIFYING THE
REPORT SO- A LITTLE. DISCONNECT
THERE AS WELL. AND THEY ALSO
NOTED THE IMPORTANCE OF
SCALABILITY WITHIN THE REPORT
AND UNFORTUNATELY S. B. TWO
SIXTY ONE DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE
SCALABILITY AS WELL TO- FOR
THESE REASONS YOU KNOW WHERE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED- HOPEFULLY
WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO CONTINUE.
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR AND YOU
KNOW ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES
BUT- THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT OTHER FOLKS
WHO WANT TO VOICE CONCERNS OR
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL HERE IN
PERSON. YOU CAN JUST CUT TO MY
CAN. TELL US YOUR FILIATION IN.
HI THERE GOOD MORNING MELANIE
QUIPS OF THE CALIFORNIA BANKERS
ASSOCIATION ALSO AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANKS THANK YOU. DO
A BIT IN COURT- WE HAVE A SIFMA
SECURITIES INDUSTRY. AND
FINANCIAL MARKETS ASSOCIATION
ALSO IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING CHAIRED
MEMBERS NAMELY PETRONE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA CREDIT UNION
LEAGUE INTERSECT OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING RIGHT
ELENA BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN BURE'S ROB
SPIEGEL CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS
AND TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MATTHEW ALL OF WESTERN
GROWERS ALSO OPPOSED. GOOD
MORNING SYLVIA FIRM YOU HAVE TO
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION. XACTWARE
ON BEHALF OF THE WESTERN STATES
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION OR POST
THANK YOU. RIGHT GLAD BUILT THE
ON BEHALF- WITH APEX GROUP ON
BEHALF OF FINANCIAL SERVICES
INSTITUTE IN OPPOSITION THANKS.
THANK YOU. I WILL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES HERE FROM- FOLKS IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION ON PHONE
LINES. TRANSPORTER OPPOSITION OF
S. B. TWO SIXTY ONE YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN THEY OFFER
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. I WOULD
LOCAL TO LINE THIRTY FOR YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING
CHAIRED MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR S. B.
TWELVE. RECAP LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR CLIMATE RESULT. LOS
ANGELES BASED NONPROFIT WORKING
HARD SKEWS ME WE'RE JUST TAKING-
IN SUPPORT WE'VE ALREADY HAD
TESTIMONY. SO SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION WHAT YOU FOR WORKING
CORPORATE IT WILL. WE ALREADY
DID TEST AND WOULD. THANK YOU
MEXICO TO LINE A TWENTY SEVEN
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. MY 28-7 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE TWENTY FIVE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GOOD MORNING JIM LINDBERG
ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION TO
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK IN OCTOBER LINE
TWENTY TWO YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HELLO A WE WANT PAUL RYAN GLENN
ARMENTAL COALITION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU MEXICO LINE NINE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HAPPY PAPER ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY CLIMATE REALITY PROJECT
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT TO THE LINE TWENTY EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. I'D PREPARE
BONDAGE WITH PUBLIC CITIZEN-
THIS TIME JUST NOTING PORT.
THANK YOU NEXT TO THE LINE
TWENTY YOUR LINE IS OPEN. THIS
IS MARCIA LEE PERCENT IN SUPPORT
OF SB TWO SIXTY ONE ON BEHALF OF
THREE FIFTY BAY AREA AND THREE
FIFTY CONTRA COSTA COUNTY. THANK
YOU NEXT WILL LINE THIRTY EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING
DARRYL LITTLEJOHN YOUR WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
NOT A LITTLE LINE THIRTY NINE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI STEVEN
KING ON BEHALF OF ENVIRONMENT
CALIFORNIA AND CALPERS THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC INTEREST
RESEARCH GROUP AB HELPED
INSTRUCT THE PART OF SB TWO
SIXTY ONE. THANK YOU NEXT
ALTHOUGH LINE TWENTY SEVEN YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. MY TWENTY SEVEN
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. NINETY MONTH
AND ON BEHALF OF THE
AGRICULTURAL ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION AND CALIFORNIA
POULTRY FEDERATION IN OPPOSITION
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE
NO MORE SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
KEEL THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL RIGHT
THE ITEM IS NOW BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS FUNDS.
SENATE ONLY JUST REAL QUICK I
KNOW THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED AT
THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHICH I THINK
IS REALLY THE PRO POLICE
APPROPRIATE PLACE- HOW DO YOU
HOW DO YOU ENVISION IT WORKING
FOR THOSE COMPANIES WHO ARE.
EITHER NOT IN. IN AMERICA OR IN
ANOTHER STATE OR- SOME OF THOSE
COMPANIES THAT ARE ARE SUPPLYING
PRODUCTS HERE FROM OTHER
COUNTRIES. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
I YOU KNOW I'M I'M SORT OF WHEN
IT COMES TO AT LEAST THE
PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES THAT
BE IN THE SCOPE OF THE SEC
RULEMAKING WHICH ARE
MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES NOT JUST
HERE- I WANT THE FCC TO ACT AND
ACT BOLDLY AND- YOU KNOW. I'M
AYE AYE BUT LAST YEAR WAS OPEN
TO THIS AND I'M I REMAIN SO THIS
YEAR TO BASICALLY SAY THAT IF
YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH THE SEC
STANDARD COMPLYING WITH THIS
LEGISLATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE
GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THAT RULE
I'M I'M OPEN TO THAT IDEA. I
THINK YOU KNOW ENFORCEMENT ENDS
UP BEING A CHALLENGE ESPECIALLY
ON SOME OF THOSE MULTINATIONAL
COMPANIES THAT ARE BASED IN
PLACES THAT ARE GOING TO SAY
SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO.
INTERNATIONAL OR OR EUROPEAN
ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BUT FOR THE
MOST PART THE LARGE ASSET
MANAGERS WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE
I MEAN WITH SOME OF THE BIGGEST
BANKS IN THE WORLD RIGHT I MEAN.
BANK OF AMERICA WELLS FARGO
CHASE YOU NAME IT- IF THOSE
FOLKS ARE STEPPING UP AND GOING
AND- DOING THEIR FULL DISCLOSURE
ALL THOSE ALL THREE SCOPES UNDER
SEC THEN. I SAY YOU KNOW. LET
LET THEM HANDLE THAT- I THINK
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND. THOSE WHO
AREN'T NECESSARILY REGULATED BY
THAT RULE AND MAKE SURE THAT.
THERE'S NOT UNDER CUTTING
OCCURRING SAY IN PRIVATE ASSET
MANAGEMENT- THE BLACK ROCKS OUT
THERE- THE YOU KNOW THE SORT OF-
PRIVATE EQUITY FUNDS. AND SO
THAT'S REALLY I THINK THE KEY
GAP FILLING PIECE ASSUMING THAT
THE FEDS ACT THERE'S GOING TO BE
A LOT OF CHALLENGE TO THAT. SO I
WORRY THAT. IF WE DON'T HAVE
THIS BILL READY AND MOVING AND
THE FEDS FALL DOWN ON THAT JOB.
THEY WERE GONNA HAVE NOTHING IN
THERE WE'RE GOING TO BE FLYING
BLIND AGAIN SO. BUT THERE WHAT
ABOUT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE.
NOT BASED ON THE LIKE CHINA OR
DID IT JUST THE OTHER NATIONS
THAT ARE OR ARE. NOT PART OF
THAT. PROCESS AND PUTS OUR- I
THINK IT PUTS US AT A
DISADVANTAGE. IN NALI CALIFORNIA
BUT IN OTHER STATES THAT ARE
TRADING IN IN THE IN THE STATE
IN THE STATES I LISTEN I THERE
IS A BIT OF A BLACK BOX WHEN IT
COMES TO. PLACES LIKE YOU KNOW
RUSSIAN OPERATING OIL AND GAS
COMPANIES OR- OR CHINESE ASSETS
WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO
DISCLOSE WHAT THEIR FACTORIES
OUTPUT IS ON ANY GIVEN DAY OR-
YOU KNOW THE GOVERNMENT'S GOING
TO CONTROL THAT. THAT SORT OF
MARKET DATA I WILL TELL YOU
CHINA ACTUALLY. RECENTLY
ADOPTED. A GLOBAL SUSTAINABILITY
REPORTING METRICS VOLUNTARILY ON
THEIR OWN. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IF
THEY DON'T ASSIGN THEMSELVES A
NUMBER OR DO THE DISCLOSURE.
THESE STANDARDS THE WAY THEY
WORK IS THEY'LL SORT OF IMPOSE
IT DEFAULT FACTOR ON YOU. SO YOU
JUST ASSUME THEN THAT EVERY ANY
STEEL COMING OUT OF CHINA IS
GOING TO HAVE THIS EMISSIONS
ASSOCIATED WITH IT. NOW IT MAY
BE THE CHINESE ACTUALLY MAKING
THAT STEEL CLEANER. BUT IF WE'RE
SITTING THERE AND SAYING WELL IF
YOU'RE NOT GONNA TELL US THEN
WE'RE GONNA JUST ASSUME IT'S
THIS OUTPUT OF A COAL FIRED
POWER PLANT MAKING THAT. STEEL
THERE SHOULD BE A MARKET
DETERRENT TO THAT IN OTHER WORDS
AND IT ENDS UP ACTING LIKE. THAT
YOU DON'T SAY THIS- BUT- TRADE
POLICY BY OTHER MEANS RIGHT THE
IRA RIGHT NOW IS IN THE SAME.
FACTOR ITS ITS DOMESTIC POLICY
BUT IT ENDS UP IMPACTING GLOBAL
MARKETS AND MAKES THEM SHIFT
THEIR BUSINESS PLANNING SAME
GOES HERE. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE
THE IDEA IS THAT IF WE HAD
STANDARDS AND WE SAID OKAY. SIR
A CALIFORNIA MAJOR AGRICULTURE
COMPANIES DOING THEIR DISCLOSURE
BUT A CHINESE. HOG FARM ISN'T
SAYING WHAT THEIR MISSIONS ARE
WELL LET'S JUST ASSUME THE WORSE
FOR THEM. AND LET'S ASSUME
EXACTLY WHAT CALIFORNIA'S
TELLING US FOR OUR FOR OUR
OPERATIONS. THAT POULTRY
OPERATION OR WHATEVER MAY BE.
AND I THINK WE WIN IN THAT. THAT
FIGHT SO. I ACTUALLY THINK THIS
PUTS US AT A COMPETITIVE
ADVANTAGE TO DO THIS DISCLOSURE
IN A SMART WAY- BUT I. I THINK
YOU'RE RIGHT TO PULL AT THAT
THREAD AND KNOW THAT. IT IS A
GAP GLOBALLY AND ANYWAY THIS IS
THE BEST THINKING OF HOW TO
SOLVE THAT. YEAH THE THOUGHTS
QUESTIONS. THERE IS ALSO HERE
THAT MOTION. I WILL MOTION OKAY
THANK YOU YOU MOVE ARE A GREAT
EXCELLENT- CENTER YOU MAY CLOSE.
I'M THANK YOU SO MUCH I
APPRECIATE THAT THE- DEEP
INDULGENCE THIS MORNING ON TWO
MEASURES- HOPE YOU GUYS KEEP.
GOING WITH YOUR BILL HEARING BUT
I WOULD JUST SAY. THIS IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY-
FOR THE WORLD BUT REALLY TO PUT
CALIFORNIA. IN AT THE MOST
COMPETITIVE POSITION IT CAN BE
WHEN IT COMES TO RISK
DISCLOSURE- WE CANNOT AFFORD TO
FLY BLIND. CLIMB IS HERE RIGHT
NOW IF WE WANT A BLINDFOLD
OURSELVES. I WILL BE AT ALL OF
OUR FINANCIAL PERIL SO. WITH
THAT I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD.
CONSIDER MAKING AN AYE VOTE AND
MOVE THIS FOR TODAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU I'M SO I AM ALWAYS
PICK ON YOU CENTER BECAUSE YOU
YOUR CO AUTHOR AND ALL THESE
BILLS. I THANK YOU- SECTOR
PLEASE CALL. THE MOTION IS
PASSED THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE ALLEN HI THERE ALAN.
NO NO I PRESUPPOSES. ALLEN AYE
DOLLY. DOLLY GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ
I HER TADO. MENTOR MENJIVAR I
KNOW WHEN. NO NO AND NO. SKINNER
SKINNER I. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE
THE ROLE. OF THAT SEVEN YEAH
OKAY GREAT OKAY WE'RE CLEAR.
BECAUSE THE ROLE AND- BEFORE YOU
GO CAN WE TAKE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. OKAY WAS HER MOST OF.
SENATE SENATE SKINNER MOVED.
CONCERN COUNTERINSURGENCY. OKAY
AT FOUR THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ITEMS FILE FILE NUMBER FOUR SB
FOUR OF SIX FILE ITEM NUMBER
FIVE SB NINETY ONE FILE ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN SB THREE OH ONE AND
FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB THREE
SIXTY SEVEN. ALLEN AYE ALLEN AYE
DALI. DALI I GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ
I HER TADO. FURTADO I MEANT OF
OUR- MENTOR I WHEN I WHEN I
SKINNER. AND WIENER AYE WHO CAN
ANSWER THANK YOU SO MUCH SEVEN
ZERO IT WILL CLOSER ON THAT OKAY
LET'S GO TO YOU NOW CENTER.
CORTEZ HERE WITH SB SIXTY NINE I
DON'T. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
SENATORS YOU FOR ME TO PRESENT
THE SB SIX NINETY TODAY SB SIXTY
NINE ADDS TRANSPARENCY TO THE
SEQUEL NOTIFICATION PROCESS
CURRENTLY STATE AGENCIES ARE
REQUIRED TO POST NOTICES OF
DETERMINATION. AND NOTICES OF
EXEMPTION TO THE STATE CLEARING
HOUSE WEBSITE THE LOCAL PUBLIC
AGENCIES ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO
POST THESE NOTICES TO THE COUNTY
CLERK'S WEBSITE WITH THE NOTICES
ONLY POSTED ON THE COUNTY
CLERK'S WEBSITE. BILL TRACKING
THE PROJECT CAN MRS INDU. SB SIX
AND I WILL REQUIRE ALL PUBLIC
AGENCIES PROCEEDS NOTICES TO THE
STATE CLEARING HOUSE WEBSITE SO
THEY CAN ALL BE FOUND ONE PLACE.
THESE NOTICES MUST BE POSTED
WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF ACTION ON A
PROJECT UNDER CURRENT LAW PUBLIC
AGENCIES ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO
SEND A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION
OR NOTICE OF EXEMPTION BY MAIL.
TO ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
REQUEST ONE. UNFORTUNATELY IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THE SIX
DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS IN SAN
JOSE HELD THAT THERE IS NO
RECOURSE FOR A VIOLATION OF THE
STATUTE. WHEN STAKEHOLDERS ARE
NOT NOTIFIED EVEN THOUGH THE
REQUESTED NOTIFICATION. OF THAT
THEY ARE LEGALLY ENTITLED TO AND
RELY UPON IT THIS CAN RESULT IN
THE LIMITATIONS PERIOD ENDING
BEFORE STAKEHOLDER HAS CHANCE TO
BRING INACTION. THE STATUE
LIMITATIONS PERIOD FOR SINGLE
PROJECT CURRENTLY BEGINS EITHER
WHEN A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION
ARE EXEMPTION IS POSTED. OR IF
THERE'S NO FORMAL DECISION WHEN
A PROJECT BEGINS. THE BILL
ADDRESSES THE COURT'S DECISION.
A BY A IMPROVING THE SEQUIN
NOTIFICATION PROCESS UNDER THIS
BILL THE STATUE LIMITATIONS
WOULD BE TO BEGIN WITH AGENCY
POSTS THE NOTICE TO THE STATE
CLEARING HOUSE. WAR WHEN THE
DIRECTLY SEND IT TO ANYONE WHO
HAS REQUESTED IT. WHICHEVER
HAPPENS FIRST. ADDITIONALLY IF
THE NOTICES AMENDED CORRECTED OR
REVISE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATION
RESETS. AGENCIES ARE ALSO
REQUIRED. AUTHORIZED EXCUSE ME
BUT NOT REQUIRED DISENO DISS BY
EMAIL IF THE STAKEHOLDER
REQUESTED IN PLACE OF PHYSICAL
MAIL. THESE CHANGES STRIKE A
BALANCE BETWEEN IMPROVING
NOTIFICATION GIVING MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC MORE TIME JONES
PROJECTS MAKING SURE THAT THE
LIMITATIONS PERIOD IS NOT
EXTENDED INDEFINITELY. SO
PROJECTS CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD.
THIS BILL IS SPONSORED BY THE
CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL LABORS
HAS SUPPORT FROM TEN
ORGANIZATIONS THUS FAR INCLUDING
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
DISTRICT COUNCIL FIRE WORKERS.
THE CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY AND THE CENTER ON RACE
POVERTY IN THE ENVIRONMENT. WITH
US TO TESTIFIED TODAY- OUR
RICHARD JURY REPRESENT THE
CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL
MEMBERS- AND GRACIA OROZCO
REPRESENTING THE CENTER ON RACE
POVERTY IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
THANK YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME ALL RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE. OKAY WITH. THANK YOU-
I'M RICHARD JURY OF THE LAW FIRM
LOWS A JURY REPRESENTING THE
HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL OF
LABOUR'S SPONSOR OF THIS BILL-
SICK WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE
LABORS EIGHT ALLOWS US TO ENSURE
THAT OUR HARD WORKING A MEMBERS
ARE PROTECTED FROM HAZARDOUS
SOIL CONTAMINATION. IT ALLOWS US
TO ENSURE THAT CLEAN
CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IS USED
ON PROJECTS THAT CLEAN ENERGY IS
USED IN IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF
PROJECTS AND THEN WE CAN BUILD
THOSE PROJECTS BETTER SAFER AND
CLEANER. SB SIXTY NINE FIXES A
HOLE A GAP IN SEEK WITH THOSE
CREATED BY THE CASE LBS OVER TO
SAN JOSE SEQUEL HAS A HUNDRED
EIGHTY DAYS STATURE LIMITATIONS
WHICH IS SHORT. BUT ALLOWS THE
AGENCY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A
THIRTY DAY STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS IF THEY POST A
NOTICE OF THE TERMINATION. AND
THEY SEND THE NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION TO ANYONE WHO
REQUESTED IT. UNFORTUNATELY THE
L. V. SO CASE HELD THAT EVEN IF
THE AGENCY FAILED TO SEND THAT
NOTICE. THE THIRTY DAY STATURE
LIMITATIONS CONTINUES TO RUN AND
IN THAT CASE- THE COMMUNITY
GROUP MISSED THE THIRTY DAY
STATURE LIMITATIONS EVEN THOUGH
THEY HAD REQUESTED IN WRITING.
SB SIXTY NINE. THIS SIMPLY CLOSE
THAT GAP AND IT'S AS IF THE
AGENCY DOESN'T SEND THE NOTICE
OF DETERMINATION TO ANYONE WHO
REQUESTED IT. THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS DOESN'T START TO RUN
INTEL THEY SEND IT OR THE POSTED
ON THE STATE CLEARING HOUSE
WEBSITE SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT
THIRTY DAY STATURE LIMITATIONS
IS RUNNING. IT'S SIMPLY A
TRANSPARENCY MATTER IT WILL
ALLOW PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THAT
THIRTY DAY STATURE LIMITATIONS
HAS BEGUN TO RUN- AND THEY CAN
TAKE ACTION IF NECESSARY IT DOES
NOT. CHANGE ANY- STANDARDS OF
REVIEW IT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASIER
OR HARDER TO WIN OR LOSE A
SEQUEL CASE- IT DOESN'T DISTURB
THE HUNDRED EIGHTY TO STASH THE
LIMITATIONS. THAT REMAINS IN.
PLACE REGARDLESS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH NEXT ONE OF.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS MY
NAME IS CHRIS HERO SCHOOL AND
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE CENTER
ON RACE POVERTY THE ENVIRONMENT
A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
COMMITTED TO ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE AN UPLIFTING COMMUNITIES
IN THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. FIRST
I'D LIKE TO THINK SENATOR
CORTESE FOR INTRODUCING SB SIXTY
NINE WHICH WOULD STRENGTHEN
NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND SYKORA.
**** RPV WORK CLOSELY WITH
COMMUNITIES TO ADVOCATE FOR
THEIR NEEDS AND PUBLIC HEALTH
MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WITH
NEIGHBORHOODS OFTEN TARGETED TO
HOUSE POLLUTING LAND USE
FACILITIES SUCH AS HAZARDOUS
WASTE SITES. INDUSTRIAL
FACILITIES WAREHOUSES IN OIL AND
GAS REFINERIES NO OUR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS ARE VERY BILL JOINT
VIGILANT LEARNING ABOUT PROPOSED
POLLUTING LAND USES INTRODUCED
INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT
SOMETIMES THAT'S SIMPLY NOT
ENOUGH IT IS NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE
TO CATCH EVERY HAZARDOUS LAND
USE PROPOSED IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES. AND THIS IS
PARTICULARLY MADE HARD DUE TO
INADEQUATE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS
AS SUCH MANY POLLUTING
FACILITIES MAKE THEIR WAY INTO
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
WITHOUT COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND
WITHOUT COMMUNITY INPUT.
SEAQUEST FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE
AGAINST COMBATING HARMFUL AND
USES. THIS DEFENSE BECOMES
MEANINGLESS IF COMMUNITY MEMBERS
ARE NOT GIVEN ADEQUATE PUBLIC
NOTICE. AS THE SENATOR AND
SURGERY MENTION IN OREGON THE
SYSTEM COMPANY THAT EVERY SOBRE
SU SAN JOSE. RESIDENTS WERE NOT
GIVEN THE NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION THAT THE TIMELY
REQUESTED AND EVEN THOUGH THEY
WERE ABLE THEY HAD VALID LEGAL
CLAIMS TO RAISE. THE COURT FOUND
THAT IT COULD NOT ISSUE A REMEDY
ABSENT ADDITIONAL STATUTORY
LANGUAGE AND SB SIXTY NINE WOULD
REMEDY THIS GAP IN SEQUEL BY
REQUIRING THAT THIRTY DAY
STATURE LIMITATIONS TO BEGIN
RUNNING ONLY AFTER. THE REQUIRED
NOTICES PROVIDED WHEN IT TIMELY
REQUEST IS MADE. AS SUCH HER
ORGANIZATION SUPPORTS SB SIXTY
NINE TO ENSURE COMMUNITIES HAVE
A VOICE IN PROJECTS THAT
DIRECTLY IMPACT THEIR DAY TO DAY
LIVES AND WE URGE YOU TO VOTE HI
WITH SB SIXTY NINE THANK YOU.
I'LL TEAR. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. HE'S
HERE IN PERSON. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR MEMBERS AND STAFF MUCH
TIGHTER WITH THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION ALSO IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS MATT CLEMONS HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA NEVADA
CONFERENCE OF OPERATING
ENGINEERS IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK. GOOD MORNING AGAIN
CHRISTINE IS CURRENT WITH THE
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY
IN SUPPORT. GREAT I THANK YOU- I
KNOW WE DON'T HAVE U. S.
OPPOSITION IN THE NOW SYSTEMS
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO. VOICE OKAY
I'M SORRY YOUR- JERRY MEMBERS
NICK REMOTELY IN CALIFORNIA
CITIES LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR
STAFF AND- FOR CONSIDERING OUR
CONCERNS OUR CONCERNS ARE
PRIMARILY WE WANT TO FIND THE
RIGHT BALANCE AS A SACRAMENTO
BETWEEN. PROVIDING TIMELY NOTICE
BUT ALSO MAKE SURE WE ARE
CREATING A NEW LOOPHOLE ARE FOR
A DELAYING PROJECTS EVEN
FURTHER. ALSO WE LIKE TO WORK
WITH THE AUTHOR I THROUGHOUT THE
SESSION TO MAKE SURE THAT- ONE
OF THAT WERE WELL CLEAR AS TO.
WHEN THE CLOCK STARTS AND STOPS
WHEN WE ARE FILING. AS WELL AS
MAKING SURE THAT THE PERSON
WHO'S REQUESTING THE DOCUMENTS
IS THAT THE SAME PERSON THAT HAS
TAKEN PART IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD AND THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS OF FOR THE FOR THE
PROJECT. SO ARE WE LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT THANK YOU I'M WHAT
THE KEY IS YOU GONNA GET US A
LETTER BECAUSE THAT COULD WE- I
KNOW THIS IS A VERY FIRST
HEARING AND IT IS IT. IS YOU
KNOW BUT- WE WEREN'T AWARE OF
YOUR CONCERNS WHICH ARE VERY.
FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING VERY
BALLOTS I'D LOVE TO. GET A
LETTER AND- I WORK WITH- THE YOU
KNOW. WHAT WERE THE OTHER TO
MAKE SURE THAT. HE'S CONCERNED
ABOUT BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE DON'T
EXACERBATE SOME OF THE ISSUES
THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH
REGARDS TO SEEK A- IN PREVIOUS
CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU WE
APPRECIATE THE OKAY ADDITION-
AND ALSO YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE
MOMENTS. YES YES OKAY ALL RIGHT.
I'M FOLKS WHO WANT TO. ANYONE
ELSE WHO WANTS TO VOICE CONCERNS
IN PERSON. AND NOT EASILY TAKING
A FORMAL POSITION POSITION OR IS
IT JUST CONCERNS. THIS CONCERT
ON OUR HOPING THAT WE CAN
CLARIFY SOME OF THESE THINGS AND
HOPEFULLY THAT. WILL OKAY. AND
WE LET THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE
TO BE INVOLVED TO GET TO HELP
WITH THAT PROCESS OKAY. THANK
YOU SIR. OUR OTHER FOLKS WHO
WANT TO RAISE CONCERNS WITH THE
SCHOOL THE PHONE LINES
OPPOSITION SUPPORT PEOPLE WANT
TO RAISE. OPPOSITION SUPPORT ON
THE FRONT LINES. THANK YOU FOR
IN OPPOSITION. OR SUPPORT YOU
MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
AGAIN THAT IS ONE AND THEN
THEY'LL FOR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. YES WE DO HAVE ONE
ONE MOMENT FOR THEIR NUMBER.
THEY DISCONNECTED WE HAVE NO
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION IN KIEL
OKAY THANK YOU IS FOR YOU TO
THE- WESTERN. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN. I LIKE YOUR BILL.
THERE'S JUST A FEW CLARIFYING
THINGS I HOPE WE CAN GET IRONED
OUT- I KNOW THAT THE COUNTIES SO
IT'S GOING TO. IF YOU GO TO THE
PROCESS. IT'LL BE SIGNED INTO
LAW IT INTO SESSION SOMETIME AND
THEN IT'LL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY
ONE PROBLEM IS THAT THE LOCAL
CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT ARE
GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT- IT'S
REAL SHORT TIME FRAME FROM. THE
END OF THE YEAR TO THE FIRST OF
THE YEAR SO IS THERE ANY
OPPORTUNITY MAYBE EXTEND OUT.
THAT DEADLINE FOR THOSE FOLKS TO
BE ABLE TO COMPLY AND ANY
ACTUALLY EDUCATED YOU GET THEIR
SYSTEM IN PLACE. WHICH YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT SORT OF A- YEAH
LIKE ARAMBULA PILLAI ONE INSTEAD
OF A JANUARY ONE WHICH THE BILL
WOULD BE- EVAN I THINK THAT
WOULD MAYBE. HELP ALLEVIATE SOME
OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT TIMING OF
THE ACTUAL WEAPON TO
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BILL.
WE'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT
I'M A MEASURE. A HUNDRED EIGHTY
DAYS WILL BE NEEDED TO RAMP UP
BUT YOU KNOW- SOME. THERE IS
SOME SORT OF GRACE PERIOD AFTER
AFTER JANUARY ONE GIVEN I'M
UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN THAT.
FOLKS WON'T KNOW OF. A PERHAPS
WEATHER'S GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED
OR NOT ALTHOUGH WE WOULD HOPE
THE BILL WOULD BE SIGNED WELL
BEFORE THAT- BUT WHAT WILL. JUST
TO GIVE YOU SURE INCE'S WILL
CONTINUE TO- TO CONSIDER THAT.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT- YOU KNOW
AND TALK TO THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE- IN THE STATE
CLEARINGHOUSE PROCESS. IS A VERY
QUICK AND SIMPLE PROCESS THESE
FOLKS AT THE COUNTIES ARE
ALREADY WITH THE CITIES ARE.
PRIMARILY IN SOME CASES AND
RURAL AREAS CHRIS PROBABLY
COUNTIES DO A LITTLE BIT. MORE
OF THIS- BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE
FILING. THEIR ALREADY RECORDED
WITH THE COUNTY CLERK SO IT'S A
MATTER OF JUST GETTING THAT
SAME. IT IN EFFECT THE SAME
NOTICE TO THE STATE CURRENT
OFFERS ADDING THE STATE CLEARING
HOUSE. BUT AGAIN OF HAPPY TO AS
WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE
TO CONSIDER- WHETHER THAT HELPS
ALLEVIATE THINGS. IN THE
PIPELINE. THANK YOU. YES CAN I
JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THE
CURRENT PROCESS. DO THEY HAVE TO
DEAL WITH IN FIVE DAYS AS WELL.
YES OKAY. UN I AMENDED PIGGY
BACK ON SENATE DOLLY. AS YOU
KNOW I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE
COUNTY I THINK THE BUDGET IS IN
THE MIDDLE LIKE JUNE JULY THEY
HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET. SO NOT
KNOWN AT THIS BILL. I IT'S A
GOOD BILL IT'S IS WHETHER WHEN
IT PASSES A SIGN. THEY REALLY
HAVE BY THEN. HAVE ALREADY
PASSED THEIR BUDGET SO YOU WAIT
TO JULY IT HELPS THEM FOR THE
NEXT FOLLOWING YEAR AND THEY
HAVE A BUDGET. AND YOU KNOW HOW
IT IS AT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY
IS YOU KNOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE
TO BUDGE ANOTHER STAFFER SOME
MORE TIME OR SOMETHING. TO GET
THIS PROCESS GOING AND SO I
THINK GIVING THEM THAT EXTRA
TIME EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY THAT
SIX MONTHS. BUT IT HELPS THEM
GEAR UP FOR THE NEXT BUDGET- AND
GIVE THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO- MEET THE
MEET THE- THAN THAT THE NEW LAW
. YEAH FROM FORTY IT'S WORTH I
MEAN WILL BEGIN. AS I SAID TO US
SENATE DOLLY WILL. THAT
IMPECCABLE I THINK WE NEED TO
CHECK IN OFFICE YOU WEREN'T
HEARING. OPPOSITION FROM THE
COUNTY'S THEMSELVES WERE NOT
REALLY HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE
CITY'S RETURN SOME. CONCERNS I
THINK ON THEIR PART IS TO MAKE
SURE. THAT WHEN WE TOLD THE
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS BECAUSE-
THEY MISSED ONE OF THOSE STEPS-
I THINK THEIR CONCERN IS- ONE
MAKE SURE THAT THE STATUTE. OF
LIMITATIONS IT DOESN'T STAY
OPEN. UP YOU KNOW SORT OF
PERMANENTLY- IN IN IN THERE FOR
DELAY PROJECTS I THINK WE'VE
WE'VE GOT THAT PRETTY CLEAR ON
THIS. COMMITTEES DONE I THINK AN
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS AND- HELPING
US TO GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE
HERE. BUT WE GOT TIME AS WE GO
ON WE'LL KEEP WORKING WITH THEM
IN. A KIND OF HOPEFULLY.
DEMONSTRATE TO THEM EITHER THAT
THE BILLS ALREADY TAKING CARE OF
THAT WHICH I THINK IT HAS. WAR
AS I SAID TO SOME CONSULTANTS MY
OFFICE A COUPLE DAYS AGO DO A
SEQUEL WORK. YOU KNOW GIVE US
THE SPECIFIC- WORD OR TWO OR
THREE OR WHATEVER YOU NEED THE
PHRASEOLOGY- IN IN AGAIN- TO THE
CHAIR HAPPY TO COME BACK IF WE
GET THAT KIND OF PHRASEOLOGY AND
WE THINK IT'S RIGHT. TO COME
BACK IN IT WORK WITH YOU MAKE
SURE YOUR STAFF- FEELS THAT IT'S
RIGHT BECAUSE THESE ARE NOW
GETTING INTO LEGALLY OPERATIVE.
YOU KNOW I THINK PHRASES LIKE
THAT GO IN HERE. AND MAKE SURE
THAT IF WE TOLD STATURE
LIMITATIONS- THERE'S AN IN. TIME
TO THAT AND IT'S CLEAR. ALSO FOR
WHATEVER IT'S WORTH WITH MIDDLE
EASIER- YOU KNOW TERMS OF A- AND
ALL THOSE THINGS THAT COUNTIES
AND BUDGET AND ALL THAT. THEY
CAN NOW. EMAIL IN LIEU OF A
WRITTEN NOTICE- IN THIS BILL.
AND NOTICE IS UPON- DELIVERY IS
DEFINED AS WHEN THAT EMAIL WAS
SENT. A WIN THAT MAIL NOTICES
SAID. WHICH ALSO HELPS CLEAR
THINGS UP SO THERE'S NOT AN
ISSUE OF CONSTANT DISPUTE ABOUT
I DID RECEIVE THE NOTICE. YOU
SAID YOU SENT ME AN EMAIL YOU
SENT IT YOU KNOW. I DIDN'T GET
IT SHE WENT TO SPAM I MEAN. WE
WERE VERY CLEAR HERE THAT- YOU
KNOW SORT OF BASIC CONTRACT HALL
HAS IN PLACE EVEN THOSE IN A
CONTRACT. YES THEY DO THEY SAID
IT IS DELIVERED. I HOPE THAT
HELPS. WHETHER WE'LL GET THE
RURAL COUNTIES IN OPPOSITION
YEAH. YEAH OKAY GREAT. CORRECT
OKAY ALL RIGHT. I'M ANY OTHER.
THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS MOTION
PERHAPS. YEAH MOVE BY A CENTER
HER TADO- YOU MAY CLOSE CENTER.
REALLY CLOSE OKAY THANK YOU- I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL THANK YOU
ALL RIGHT LET'S KALRA- SURGICAL.
FOR IT THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE ALLEN HI. I. DALI.
GONZALEZ PRASADA. CONTATO I
BINGE OF OUR- MENJIVAR I WENT.
SKINNER. THREE ZERO OKAY THREE
ZERO. I WE WILL BE THE ROLE OF
AN FOR THE MEMBERS OUT ON. THEY
THINK YOU GET A SECURE OKAY I
SEE SENATOR GLAZER HERE- ONCE
YOU COME IN PRESENT ITEM NINE
THAT'S- SB THREE NINETY THREE.
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY NICE TO
SEE YOU ALL IN PERSON. STARTING
OUR YEAR OFF- IN A GOOD WAY HERE
I WANT TO THANK AT YOUR ALLEN
FOR- AND THE COMMITTEE FOR
ALLOWING TO PRESENT THIS BILL SB
THREE NINETY THREE TODAY I WANT
TO THANK THE EXCELLENT STAFF WHO
HAVE WORKED WITH ME AND MY
STAFF. AND I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT
THE COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS. SB THREE NINETY
THREE WOULD REQUIRE PLAINTIFFS
TO FILE A SEQUEL A LAWSUIT TO
DISCLOSE DONOR IDENTITIES OF
THOSE WHO- IT AND NOW WITH THE
AMENDMENTS DONATE A FIVE
THOUSAND DOLLARS OR MORE.
TOWARDS THE COST OF THAT ACTION-
THIS BILL WOULD ALSO PREVENT
REPETITIVE SEQUEL LAWSUITS
AGAINST HOUSING PROJECTS PART OF
A LARGER PLAN. THAT HAVE
COMPLETED THE ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW PROCESS AND RE LITIGATED
UNDER SEQUEL. WE ALL KNOW THAT
WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS IN
OUR STATE ACCORDING TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WE MUST
BUILD TWO POINT FIVE MILLION
HOMES OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEAR
CYCLE. AND NO LESS THAN ONE
MILLION OF THOSE HOMES MUST BE
AFFORDABLE TO LOWER INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS. WE KNOW THAT SEQUEL
CAN HINDER CALIFORNIA'S PROGRESS
TOWARDS MEETING ITS HOUSING
GOALS VERTICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. USING A SEQUEL ABUSES.
CAN HINDER CALIFORNIA'S PROGRESS
TOWARDS MEETING. EDUCATION COSTS
ARE SIGNIFICANT. AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECTS ALREADY
STRUGGLE TO OBTAIN ALL OF THE
NECESSARY FINANCING TO BUILD.
FOR KEEPING RENTS BELOW MARKET
RATES. UNFORTUNATELY ONE OF THE
MOST PROMINENT EXAMPLES OF THIS
ABUSE OCCURRED IN MY DISTRICT-
THIS PAST FEW YEARS THAT. THE
CITY OF LIVERMORE. AND THAT
LITIGATION SIGNIFICANTLY DELAYED
A VERY IMPORTANT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECT. THE NONPROFIT
DEVELOPER LOST SIXTY EIGHT
MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING- FROM
THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX
CREDIT PROGRAM AS A RESULT OF
THAT LITIGATION. WHICH OF COURSE
HAS BEEN FOUND MERITLESS. THE
LIVERMORE PROJECT IS NOT UNIQUE
MANY HOUSING PROJECTS TO FACE
SIMILAR OBSTACLES WHEN INTEREST
GROUPS. AND INDIVIDUALS WITH
ULTERIOR MOTIVES SEEK TO ABUSE
THE SEQUEL PROCESS I'D ORDERED
TO STOP THEM. I HAVE TWO
WITNESSES WITH ME TODAY. FIRST
LINDA AT MANDALAY ANNIE WHO IS
PRESIDENT OF EATING HOUSING- AND
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT
THIS VALUABLE PROJECT IN
LIVERMORE. I ALSO HAVE MARINA
WYANT WHO'S VICE PRESIDENT OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT THE KASBAH
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
CONSORTIUM- AS WELL WITH THAT.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. YOU MAY RECEIVE. THANK
YOU- MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE- MY NAME IS LINDA
MISCELLANY OF THE PRESIDENT AND
CEO OF IN HOUSING I'M HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SB THREE
NINETY THREE. THE BILL THAT WILL
INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AROUND
SEQUEL LITIGATION BY REQUIRING
PETITIONERS TO DISCLOSE THEIR
IDENTITIES AND THEIR BUSINESS
INTERESTS WHEN THEY CONTRIBUTE I
GUESS NOW MORE THAN FIVE
THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ACTION. IT
IS ONE OF CALIFORNIA'S OLDEST
AND MOST RESPECTED NONPROFIT
DEVELOPERS SINCE OUR INCEPTION
WE'VE DEVELOPED MORE THAN ELEVEN
THOUSAND APARTMENT UNITS. IN
WORKS CLOSELY WITH ELECTED
OFFICIALS TO WIN APPROVAL FOR
OUR PROJECTS ENSURE THAT THEY
COMPLY WITH LOCAL ZONING AND FIT
INTO THE CHARACTER OF THE
COMMUNITIES THEY'RE LOCATED IN.
NONETHELESS RECEIVING A
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE
NUMBER OF LAWSUITS AGAINST ARE
PROJECTS FROM ANONYMOUS GROUPS.
WHOSE MEMBERS ARE NOT REQUIRED
TO DISCLOSE THEIR IDENTITIES
WERE THE MOTIVES FOR THEIR LEGAL
CHALLENGE IN ALL INSTANCES THE
SUITS HAVE BEEN REJECTED BY
JUDGES FOR HAVING LITTLE OR
NOTHING TO DO WITH PROTECTING
THE ENVIRONMENT. IN SOME CASES
THE COURTS HAVE REQUIRED
OPPONENTS TO POST A BOND UNDER
FIVE TWENTY NINE POINT TWO
CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE. OF TWO.
TO IMPOSE DAMAGES ON THEM FOR
THE DELAYS THEY THEY IMPACT OUR
PROJECTS. IN THE CASE OF
LIVERMORE WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS
APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL
IN TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE TO
DEVELOP A PROJECT ON A SITE THAT
WAS PAID FOR WITH HOUSING
FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND REQUIRED TO BE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS PROJECT
WOULD BE THE FIRST PROJECT IN
THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN AND AS OF
TODAY WE WOULD BE WELCOMING
RESIDENTS HAD WE NOT BEEN SUED.
ON THIS PROJECT BY AN ANONYMOUS
. GROUP TO SAVE LIVERMORE
DOWNTOWN. THE OF AN ITEM WELL
FUNDED OPPONENTS HAVE YOU SECRET
TO DELAY THIS PROJECT NOW FOR
YEARS IN SPITE OF THE JUDGES
DISMISSING THEIR ARGUMENTS IS
ALMOST ENTIRELY WITHOUT MERIT
THESE DELAYS FORCED US AS THE
SENATOR NOTED. TO DO TO GIVE
BACK A SIXTY EIGHT MILLION
DOLLAR WORD OF TAX CREDITS. AND
IT'S THREATENING OTHER FUNDING
SOURCES FOR THIS PROJECT. WE
WOULD AGAIN BE WELCOMING THESE
FAMILIES THIS YEAR INSTEAD IT
WE'RE SPENDING ALL OF OUR TIME
IN COURT. ARGUING WITH LAWYERS
AND YET ANONYMOUS GROUPS. THAT
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE WHO
THEY ARE SENATOR GLAZERS
LEGISLATION WOULD HELP US
IDENTIFY THE NAMELESS OPPONENTS
BEHIND CHALLENGES LIKE THESE.
AND OFFER A SMALL AMOUNT OF
REDRESS TO NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPERS LIKE EDEN.
WHO ARE FORCED TO DEFEND AGAINST
THESE VERY EXPENSIVE LEGAL
ACTIONS WELL DELIBERATE DELAYING
TACTICS JEOPARDIZE OTHER FUNDING
AWARDS. AND EXPOSE OUR PROJECTS
TO INCREASE COSTS OR EVEN WORSE
POTENTIALLY NEVER BEING BUILT.
THIS BILL WOULD ALSO SERVE THE
PUBLIC INTEREST BY INCREASING
TRANSPARENCY AROUND SEQUEL
LAWSUITS TO ENSURE THE ENTITIES
AND INTERESTS ON BOTH SIDES OF
THESE LEGAL ACTIONS ARE KNOWN.
WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOOD PUBLIC
POLICY AN ACQUITTAL CRITICAL
NEXT STEP IN CALIFORNIA'S
BUILDING. MORE OF THE
DESPERATELY NEEDED AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THAT WE NEED HERE IN THE
STATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SUPPORT AND WE URGE YOU TO KEEP
THIS LEGISLATION MOVING THANK
YOU. THE MORNING CARE MEMBERS
RAIN A WHITE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING CONSORTIUM C. H. C. AS
IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON THE
PRODUCTION PRESERVATION. OF LOW
INCOME HOUSING. IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSING
GOVERNOR'S NINE EIGHTY SIX
EIGHTY SIX WHICH EXPANDS FAIR
HOUSING REQUIREMENTS AND
PROTECTIONS AND IN PARTICULAR.
REQUIRES ALL STATE AND LOCAL
PUBLIC AGENCIES TO FACILITATE
DELIVERED ACTION TO EXPLICITLY
ADDRESS COMBAT AND RELIEVE
DISPARITIES RESULTING FROM PAST
PATTERNS OF SEGREGATION. AND TO
FOSTER MORE INCLUSIVE
COMMUNITIES. EXPANDING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES AND
HIGH RESOURCE AREAS. LIKE
DOWNTOWN LIVERMORE IS A CRITICAL
STRATEGY FOR A FIRM OF LEE
FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING. THESE
COMMUNITIES HAVE SHOWN BY REESE
BY MATT MUCH RESEARCH TO SUPPORT
POSITIVE ECONOMIC EDUCATIONAL
AND HEALTH OUTCOMES TO LOW
INCOME FAMILIES PARTICULARLY
FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. WHILE
EXPERIENCES LIKE THOSE DESCRIBED
BY EVEN HOUSING ARE NOT
EXPENSIVE THEY ARE NOT UNIQUE
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY HAVE A
CHILLING EFFECT ON THE STATE'S
ABILITY TO AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER
FAIR HOUSING. AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPERS LIKE YOU KNOW AND
CANNOT AFFORD YEARS OF COSTLY
LEGAL BATTLES AND WILL CONTINUE
TO SHY AWAY FROM PROVIDING THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE NEED AND
COMMUNITIES OF OPPORTUNITY.
WITHOUT REFORMS LIKE THESE. AS
BEING THREE NINETY THREE IS A
MODERATE REFORM TO SEEK WEB BUT
BY PROVIDING GREATER
TRANSPARENCY TO THE SEE WHAT
PROCESS WOULD HAVE AN
EXTRAORDINARY IMPACT ON THE
ABILITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPERS. TO PREVAIL ON FIVE
TO NINE POINT TWO ONE MOTIONS
AND ALLOW MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPERS LIKE EAT AND
TO TAKE ON THE RISK OF EXPANDING
ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY. FOR LOWER
INCOME CALIFORNIANS. FOR THESE
REASONS I URGE YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH OTHER
FOLKS ONE OF WIN SUPPORT WHO ARE
HERE IN PERSON. GOOD MORNING
SYLVIA FOR ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT AND WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED THIS BILL AS A
HOUSING CREATOR THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THEN A SELFIE ON BEHALF OF
THE FAMILY BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA WE SUPPORT THIS
TRANSPARENCY BILL THANK YOU. A
ROBERT COPELAND A CONCERN FIFTH
IF PASSED THE BILL. OKAY ALL
RIGHT- LET'S HEAR FROM FOLKS IN
OPPOSITION- LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION AND THEN WILL GO TO-
ME TO USE AN INITIALIZED. YES
SIR. I'M SORRY YEAH THAT'S RIGHT
YEAH OKAY YES THAT'S RIGHT THIS
IS A COUPLE OF PLEASE PLEASE
VISIT. MY QUEST ON BEHALF OF THE
STATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN PRISON STAFF MITCH
SNIDER WITH THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION ALSO IN OPPOSITION.
MELISSA ROBERT WITH CALIFORNIA
BY MENTAL VOTERS CURRENTLY
OPPOSED TO THE BILL AND THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR WILLINGNESS TO
CHAT ABOUT OUR CONCERNS THANK
YOU THANK YOU. CRISTINA SYRINGE
WITH THE CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. I KNOW OBVIOUSLY THE BILL
WAS SIGNIFICANTLY SCALED BACK
WITH AMENDMENTS TO ANOTHER STILL
SOME CONCERNS AND WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THEM HERE- AND OF COURSE
IT'S ALSO GOING TO JUDICIARY
TICKETS OUT TODAY SO- OTHER
FOLKS YOU WANT TO WIN IT'S
EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. I
ON THE PHONE LINES IN. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO
. THAT'S ONE AND THEN THE OFFICE
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. ONE MOMENT
WE HAVE ONE IN Q.
AND ONE MOMENT. PFLUEGER LINE
FORTY SIX YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
THANK YOU METATRADER MISTER
CHAIRMAN OF CENTER THIS IS
ALBERTO TRICKLE ON BEHALF OF
UNITED FOOD AND COMMERCIAL
WORKERS. WESTCHESTER'S KELSO.
THE COMMITTEE IN A MEMBER THE
CENTER DAUGHTERS WORK ON THE
AMENDMENTS BUT- REMAIN UP. THANK
YOU. FOR THANK YOU AT THE- THANK
YOU AND WE HAD NO THE Q. ENOUGH
- IN Q. OKAY. ALL RIGHT IT'S NOW
AT THE COMMITTEE FOR- AND-
COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION LET ME
JUST START BY- TEN IF YOU THINK
TO ME FIRST OF ALL- THIS YEAR I
THINK WHEN THAT WHEN THE BILL IS
COMING TO COMMITTEE AND IT'S
ONLY SINGLE REFERRED THE
COMMITTEE OF- THE COMMITTEE KIND
OF BEARS THAT CAN ADDITIONAL
BURDEN TO COVER ALL THE ISSUES-
I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED BY THE
ANALYSIS THAT ARE LARGELY ISSUES
THAT ARE GOING TO BE A DOT WITH
BY THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
BECAUSE OVER THERE. I MEAN THE
FUNNY POSITION AS WELL BECAUSE I
SERVE ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
AND- YOU KNOW SO I'D GIVE THEM
THAT NUMBER I THINK IT'S THERE'S
SORT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION QUESTIONS THAT THAT
THAT OUR FIRST YEAR STICTION
HERE. AND I THINK THAT THE- YEAH
AS YOU AS YOU ALL KNOW THE
ORIGINAL BILL AND OF COURSE ALL
THE ORIGINAL BILLS THAT IN THIS
SPACE IN THE PAST HAVE BASICALLY
BEEN BLANKET. APPLICATION FOR
SEQUEL LAWSUITS- EVEN THOUGH THE
ARGUMENT ALWAYS EASY MADE FOR
HOUSING THE WAY THE BILL WAS
ORIGINALLY RAN IT WITH COVERED
EVERYTHING FROM BIG BOX STORES
TO AN INDUSTRIAL FACTORIES IT'S
AFTER AND WE'VE- LIMITED ON THE
HOUSING- I WE ORIGINALLY ASKED
FOR A HOUSING HOUSING COMMITTEE
PUSHBACK WANTED THE DEFINITION
THAT WE ULTIMATELY TOOK FROM THE
GOVERNMENT CODE. WITH REGARDS TO
HOUSING. I HADN'T. BUT YOU KNOW
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF.
IMPLEMENTATION ISSUES THAT ARE
RAISED BY THE ANALYSIS
EVERYTHING FROM. YOU KNOW HOW WE
WOULD. REALLY LAY OUT THE
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS- SPEED
SPLITTING AND- LAUNDERING
CONTRIBUTIONS THAT REPORTING IS
THE EXACT AMOUNTS AND INCREASES
IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE.
MENTIONED ON- PAGES SIX FIVE SIX
AND SEVEN ANALYSIS I THINK
THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE PASSED
OUT WITHIN JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
THERE IS ALSO THE BROADER
PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION ABOUT
DISCLOSURE OF. CONTRIBUTIONS THE
LAWSUITS AND THAT IS A KIND OF A
VERY MUCH SQUARELY JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE QUESTION. AND ONE THAT
I'M STRUGGLING WITH QUITE
FRANKLY WITH WITH REGARD TO THIS
BILL AND SO- YOU FOR THE PURPOSE
OF THE Q. I'M I'M HAPPY TO VOTE
FOR THE BILL TODAY. WITH ALL THE
MINUTES HAVING BEEN TAKEN BUT I
WANT TO RESERVE MY OWN. MY OWN
RIGHT TO. TO RECONSIDER MY
POSITION GIVEN THE ALL THE
DISCUSSION THAT WILL PRESUMABLY
COME IN JUDICIARY COMMITTEE-
WITH ANALYSIS THERE IN THE
DISCUSSION THERE ON THESE
BROADER. PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS
RELATED TO THEIR JURISDICTION. I
MEAN THERE THERE ARE. NUMBER OF
CHANGES THAT ARE MADE OBVIOUSLY
ROSE THREE THE THRESHOLD THAT IF
PEOPLE WANT TO GO HIGHER THAT'S
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER- I MEAN IF
YOU THINK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW
THESE. ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE AND
EVEN FIVE K. IS ACTUALLY
RELATIVELY LOW I MEAN THAT YEAH
IT WOULD STILL BE MEANINGFUL
TWENTY FIVE FIFTY THOUSAND. TO
BE QUITE HONEST- IF YOU REALLY
TRY TO GET IT BAD KIND OF DEEP
POCKETED DONORS TO A- A LAWSUIT
THAT ARE TRYING TO HIDE THEIR
INVOLVEMENT. I'M ANOTHER THING
TO. IS GIVEN SOME OF THE KEY OF
AN REYES ABOUT HIS WITH A TO
ABOUT CHILLING. MAYBE A SENSE
CLAUSE I YOU KNOW NOT SOMETHING
THAT WE- ASK FOR IN THE
NEGOTIATIONS WITH YOU CENTER SO
I'M NOT GOING TO INSIST ON IT
NOW BUT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
IN THE FUTURE AS A POSSIBILITY.
I AM. I DO KNOW THOUGH THAT AS A
AS A SAY THE BILL IS CERTAINLY
REALLY FOR. YOU KNOW ALL THE
ARGUMENTS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT
HOUSING- SO WE REALLY WANT TO
FOCUS IN ON HOUSING. AND THE
HOUSING COMMITTEE GOT INVOLVED
IN THAT DISCUSSION- SO WE'LL SEE
WHERE THIS GOES BUT I KNOW
THERE'S DISCUSSION AT THE
COMMITTEE WANTS TO. RAISE AND-
LET'S GO TO YOU MISTER MEISTER.
WELL I DON'T WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THE VOTE FORWARD I
MEAN EVEN THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT-
YOU KNOW. RECENTLY AND SAID YOU
KNOW. SEQUANS OTHER THINGS
HOUSING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE ANY
PIECE. WAS COMMITTED TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT THIS IS A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
TRANSPARENCY. THE END OF THE
DAY- YOU KNOW. I THINK THE
PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW
WHO'S DOING WHAT. AND I WOULD
MOVE THE BILL OF BE LIKED US TO
BE IF IT GETS OUT TO BE ADDED AS
A CO AUTHOR TO THIS BILL I THINK
IT'S- IT'S GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.
THANK YOU. AS OUR SKINNER. I'M
IT. MIGHT HAVE- AN APOLOGIES
THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO. LIVE TO
COMMITTEES GOING ON AT ONCE BUT
I WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR THE
INITIAL. BUT I DID READ THE FULL
ANALYSIS AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THE
AUTHOR. AND I'M AWARE OF A
PARTICULAR CASE- IN THE OF THE
CITY OF LIVERMORE WHERE A
PROJECT IN THIS MAY HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSED BUT THE PROJECT WAS
APPROVED. UNANIMOUSLY BY
COUNCIL- AND THEN WAS- HAS IS
STILL BEING SUBJECT TO LAWSUIT
AFTER LAWSUIT AFTER LAWSUIT-
WITH THAT NAME. PARTICULAR
ORGANIZATION NAMED BUT WITHIN
WITH- IT'S BEEN. YOU KNOW
REVEALED RUN COVERED THAT IT'S A
SINGLE. PERSON WEALTHY WOMAN
THAT IS A FINANCING THIS
LAWSUIT. AND YOU KNOW I THINK
THAT'S AN EGREGIOUS. OF WHAT SHE
HAS DONE IS AN EGREGIOUS MISUSE
OF. SHE TO MISUSE IT SHOULD TO A
- QUOTE BUT IT'S THE IN AGREE
JUST. EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT NEED TO BE
CORRECTED- AND- IS IT YOU KNOW
PART OF WHAT IS BROKEN ABOUT OUR
HOUSING SYSTEM. AND MY INITIAL
THINKING YOU KNOW BECAUSE- YEAH
I- VERY STRONGLY REACTING TO
THAT CIRCUMSTANCE WAS THAT YOU
KNOW MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
HOWEVER I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS
IS REALLY GOING TO SERVICE. IS
IT AGAIN AND STOP THOSE KIND OF
LAWSUITS AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT
ALL LAWSUITS THEN. EVEN BEYOND
SYKORA WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE
DISCLOSURE IN ANY AND EVERY
LAWSUIT. WHY IS IT ONLY YOU KNOW
THIS AND I AND I GUESS WHEN I
THINK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH
SECRET AND I KNOW. HI I
APPRECIATE THAT THE AUTHOR IS
YOU KNOW HASN'T APPROACH THIS IS
IT YOU AND HE FEELS THAT YOU
KNOW EVERYTHING ANYTHING WE DO
IS GOING TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT
OVER THE CIRCUMSTANCE NOW. BUT I
WONDER IF AGAIN IT'S THAT BEGS
THE QUESTION THAT WE REALLY
NEED. TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS-
REVIEW OF HOW SEEK WAS BEING
USED AND WHAT ITS PURPOSE WAS
ORIGINALLY. AND SOME REFORMS TO
IT NOW I KNOW THERE'S MANY. MANY
STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE YOU KNOW
VIA VAIR WILDLY VARYING OPINIONS
ON THIS BUT I THINK WE HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY NO ENOUGH ABUSES THAT
THERE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME
CHANGES BUT WHETHER THIS CHANGE
IS GOING TO RESULT IN THE KIND
OF- FIX THAT THE AUTHORS TRYING
TO ACHIEVE. OR JUST BE. YOU KNOW
BY EITHER MAYBE HURT THE ABILITY
FOR SOME GROUPS TO BRING
LEGITIMATE LAWSUITS. AND THERE'S
WAYS WE COULD THERE'S OTHER WAYS
WE COULD APPROACH THIS SO I'M
RIGHT NOW I'M- I'M NOT SURE THIS
IS THE WAY TO GO AND SO I'M
GOING TO STAY OFF THE BILL RIGHT
NOW. BECAUSE AFTER READING THE
ANALYSIS AND TALKING TO A NUMBER
OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. IN THIS
ARENA IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT
DOESN'T IT I COMPLETELY
APPRECIATE THE INTENT BUT I'M
NOT SURE IT WILL ACCOMPLISH THE
GOAL THAT WE HAVE IN MIND. THANK
CENTER. OTHER THOUGHTS QUESTIONS
FROM THE MEMBERS YES AN IMAGE OF
A- I'M I WILL ALWAYS BE A FAN OF
FOR TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES
TO DEALING WITH ANYTHING AND OF
COURSE YOU KNOW WE CAN DIVE INTO
YOU KNOW AT WHAT POINT DO WE
STOP BUT- YOU KNOW I'VE SEEN THE
SEQUEL BE WEAPONIZED ON SEVERAL.
OCCASIONS AND YOU KNOW I WOULD
LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW YOU KNOW
WHO IS BEHIND THAT I THINK YOU
KNOW WE APPROACH IT THE SAME WE
DO. BALLOT MEASURES AND PROPS
YOU KNOW AS FOR ME AS A VOTER
I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT WHO
SUPPORT SUPPORTED A PROP. AND
THAT'S WHY COULD REALLY GET SOME
UNBIASED INFORMATION RIGHT-
REGARDLESS OF THE HEAD HEADLINE
SO I YOU KNOW I ECHO SOME OF MY
CHAIRS SENTIMENTS REGARDING I
WANT TO RESERVE MY RIGHT. TO
CHANGE MY BOW DOWN THE LINE BUT
I WANT TO SEE THIS HOW DO YOU
CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS I THINK
MELISSA TALKED ABOUT YOU'VE HAD
SOME CONVERSATIONS I WOULD LIKE
TO SEE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS BE
ADDRESSED. AND SEE IF WE CAN GET
TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE. YOU
KNOW EMPIRE BOATERS OR YOU KNOW
A LOT OF THESE UNIONS BE ONBOARD
WITH SOME. OTHER COMPROMISED SO
. FOR NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
IT OUT. AND THEN RESERVE LATER
ON. BECAUSE I DO WANT TO GET TO
SOME POINT OF TRANSPARENCY. OKAY
AS TO THE ITEMS BEEN MOVED BY
CENTER DOLLY AND- OKAY AS I AM
YOU MAY CLOSE CENTER. I WILL
FIRST THANK YOU TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS YOUR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS
AND FEEDBACK CHALLEN THANK YOU
AND- AND THAT THE MEMBER SKINNER
THE- SAME- LOOK. IT IS IT IS A
DISCLOSURE ISSUE- THERE'S SO
MANY CHALLENGES IN OUR HOUSING
PROBLEM IN CALIFORNIA. AS IS THE
BIGGEST ONE NOW- IT HAS A
CONTRIBUTED TO STOPPING IN THIS
CASE A HUNDRED AND THIRTY UNITS
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IN MY
DISTRICT YES IT HAS- A LOT OF
THESE. FIGHTS- EVAN THE LAWSUITS
THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT IN SILOS.
YEAH THERE'S BROAD COMMUNITY
DEBATE ABOUT THESE PROJECTS- AND
THIS ISSUE OF DISCLOSURE THAT
CARRIES ON BEYOND LAWSUITS TO.
THAT BROADER DISCUSSION THAT
TAKES PLACE ARE WE GETTING THE
TRUTH WHO'S BEHIND IT- IS THERE
A NEED FOR A BROADER REVIEW OF
C. QUOTE LOOK I I'VE CARRIED
SOME OTHER BILLS IN THE SPACE
BUT I'VE NEVER TRIED TO DEAL
WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS
IS DONE NOTHING BEFORE YOU TODAY
IN THIS COMMITTEE. CHANGES THE
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS THAT'S
BEEN LOCKED FOR DECADES NOW NO
CHANGES. IN THE STANDARDS OF
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS SO IT'S
ALWAYS SURPRISING THAT. WE STILL
NEED DOUBLE AROUND THE EDGES-
BUT NEVER REALLY GO TO THAT
BROADER POINT THAT THAT SENATOR
SKINNER RAISES. QUESTIONS VIA A
HEALTHY ROOT. DISCUSSION TO HAVE
GIVEN HOW LONG SEEK WAS BEEN IN
FACT DECADES NOW DID NOT HAVE A
REVIEW. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT
THIS BILL BEFORE YOU DOES-
SHOULD IT APPLY TO ALL LAWSUITS
WILL I THINK WORKING WITH EACH
YEAR WE'VE NARROWED IT JUST
DOUSING. I TRIED TO BE
CONSTRUCTIVE HERE IN THIS SPACE
AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. AND THE
ME MENTION SOMETHING THAT- THAT
OPPONENTS HAVE RAISED AND THAT
HAS REALLY COME UP IN THIS
CONVERSATION. BUT COURTS HAVE
THE FLEXIBILITY. TO DETERMINE.
IF THIS BILL WILL SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPACT THE PLAINTIFFS FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS COURTS UNDER
THIS LEGISLATION HAVE THE
FLEXIBILITY. TO EXEMPT IT FROM
THIS BILLS REQUIREMENTS MMHM SO
WE'RE THERE TO BE SOME CONCERN
THAT THE- FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHTS- WOULD BE JEOPARDIZED IN
SOME SIGNIFICANT WAY YOU CAN
PETITION THE COURT DID NOT HAVE
THIS BILL BE APPLICABLE. WHAT
INTERESTED IN LIMITING PEOPLE'S
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS WHICH
REALLY JUST ABOUT SCHOOL CLOSURE
AND HONESTY. WE HAVE DIFFERENCES
OF OPINION SHE SHOULD NOT HIDE.
YOU KNOW. WHO WHO WITH THE
PLAYERS AND I THINK THAT'S THE
HEALTHY PART OF THIS BILL. WE
KNOW IT WOULD HAVE MADE A BIG
DIFFERENCE I THINK WE BELIEVE IT
WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. FOR
THESE HUNDRED THIRTY UNITS I
WANT TO. COMMEND IN HOUSING
THEIR DEDICATION FOR PUTTING
THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS TOGETHER AND ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES IS SO DIFFICULT.
WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE FINANCING
CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE TO THE
HOOPS THEY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH
TO TRY TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY
VIABLE. AND THEN TO LOSE SIXTY
EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN TAX
CREDITS BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS.
IT'S JUST NOT- NOT REASONABLE
AND IMAGES SAYING CLOSING. IF WE
SAY WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
WITH IT WE GOT IT TAKES STEPS
MAYBE NOT THE BIGGEST ALWAYS THE
BIGGEST STEPS BUT LITTLE STEPS
AT A MINIMUM. DEAL WITH IT. WE
CAN'T SAY THAT IT WILL
EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME WE'RE
GONNA SOMEHOW. MAGIC WAND EVER
GOING TO BE OUT OF OUR HOUSING
CRISIS WE'VE GOT IT TAKES STEPS.
THIS IS A SMALL STEP BUT AN
IMPORTANT ONE WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASTRONAUT. THANK
YOU SENATOR- SURGICALLY CORAL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE ALLEN AYE. ALLEN AYE
DALI. DALI I GONZALEZ. HURGHADA
HURGHADA I MENDHAR. AND YOU ARE
I WENT. SKINNER THE NEW IN I
SKINNER THANK YOU. THIS FIVE
ZERO. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SO
MUCH APPRECIATE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. FIVE ZERO WILL LEAVE AN ON
CALL FOR OTHER MEMBERS THAT ON
ALL RIGHT MISS DESTIN ARCH
ALETTA YOU'RE WELCOME TO THE
DICE THIS IS ITEM TEN AS YOU ARE
TWENTY ONE. RECEIVE ONE RIGHT.
THANK YOU MR GOOD MORNING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO. COME BEFORE YOU.
AS CHAIR OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE
ON HYDROGEN ENERGY I COULD NOT
BE MORE PROUD TO INTRODUCE
SENATE. CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
TWENTY ONE. THIS RESOLUTION
RELATING. TO CALIFORNIA'S
HYDROGEN HUB APPLICATION. I
WOULD LIKE TO START BY THANKING
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING
WITH MY OFFICE AND I AGREED TO
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS. SENATE CONCURRENT
RESOLUTION TWENTY ONE RECOGNIZES
THE IMPORTANCE OF HYDROGEN AS
PART OF THE CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSITION. IT ALSO RECOGNIZES
THE ALLIANCE OF RENEWABLE CLEAN
HYDROGEN ENERGY SYSTEM ALSO
KNOWN AS ARCHERS WHICH IS A
PUBLIC PRIVATE CONSORTIUM
WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF BUSINESS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALSO
KNOW THAT GOBIZ. AND FINALLY
THIS RESOLUTION URGES ARCHERS TO
PRIORITIZE RENEWABLE CLEAN
HYDROGEN FOR THE STATE. ARCHES
WAS CREATED TO PREPARE
CALIFORNIA'S APPLICATION TO THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR HYDROGEN
HUB FUNDED. THE FEDERAL FUNDING
WAS MADE AVAILABLE IN TWENTY
TWENTY TWO THROUGH THE PASSAGE
OF THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE
BILL. IN CALIFORNIA'S HYDROGEN
HUB APPLICATION IF IT'S JUST
SEXUAL AND WE HOPE IT WILL BE
THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
ENERGY COULD REWARD AND AWARD
CALIFORNIA WITH UP TO TWO
BILLION DOLLARS. THE MONEY WOULD
GO DIRECTLY TO BUILDING A SELF
SUSTAINING HYDROGEN ECONOMY OF
PRODUCERS INFRASTRUCTURE AND
USERS. THE DEVELOPMENT OF
HYDROGEN HUBS ACROSS THE UNITED
STATES IS INTENDED TO BE THE
FIRST STEP TOWARDS THE CREATION
OF A NATIONAL NETWORK OF CLEAN
HYDROGEN PRODUCERS AND CUSTOMERS
. A CRITICAL ASPECT OF THE JOB
APPLICATION IS THE TYPES OF
FEEDSTOCK THAT WILL GO INTO THE
PRODUCTION OF THE HYDROGEN.
FEDERALLY ELIGIBLE FEEDSTOCKS
INCLUDE RENEWABLE FOSSIL FUELS
NUCLEAR AND BIOMASS HOWEVER.
CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE ARCHES
APPLICATION HAS COMMITTED TO
PURSUE THE RENEWABLE FEEDSTOCK
APPLICATION ONLY. THIS WOULD
ENSURE THAT ANY MONEY AWARDED
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
WOULD GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS
RENEWABLE CLEAN HYDROGEN
PROJECTS ONLY. NO FOSSIL FUEL
BASED HYDROGEN PRODUCTS AND
PROJECTS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR
FUNDING. FURTHER MORE HYDROGEN.
I'M SORRY FOR THE MORE ARCHERS
HAS MADE IT ITS TOP PRIORITY TO
FOCUS THEIR EFFORTS IT
COMMUNITIES WITH THE LARGEST
POLLUTION BURDEN TO ENSURE AN
ENVIRONMENT LEAD JUST TRANSITION
AS IN MY DISTRICT YOUR DISTRICT
. CALIFORNIA IS A WORLD LEADER
IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE
CHANGE AND THE SUCCESSFUL
HYDROGEN HUB APPLICATION HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO DELIVER A LASTING
RESULTS THAT WILL BE FELT BY
EVERY CALIFORNIAN FOR YEARS TO
COME. WIENER AIR BETTER JOBS A
GREATER READ THAT RESILIENCY
WOULD HELP CALIFORNIA FACE
CLIMATE CHANGE HEAD ON. IN
CLOSING SENATE CONCURRENT
RESOLUTION TWENTY ONE SIMPLY
ACKNOWLEDGES ARCHERS EFFORT TO
BRING HYDROGEN HUB TO CALIFORNIA
IT REINFORCES ARCHER'S GOAL TO
PRIORITIZE RENEWABLE CLEAN
HYDROGEN ENERGY FOR CALIFORNIA.
THIS RESOLUTION HAS NO
OPPOSITION AND FOR THESE REASONS
I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR. THANK YOU THANK YOU
SENATOR OF WHOM. WITNESSES
SUPPORT. CHAIR MEMBERS MIKE
MONICA BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. SIR
MEMBERS MIGUEL SQUARELY ON
BEHALF CALIFORNIA HYGIENE
COLLISION IN SUPPORT WE
APPRECIATE CERATOPHYLLUS
CHAMPIONSHIP HERE. THANK YOU. I
OTHER FOLKS WANT TO VOICE THEIR
SUPPORT. OPPOSITION ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES AND- WE
HAVE NONE OF YOUR
PERSONALIZATION. WE DO A HOT
AREA. CVT. GOOD MORNING THE
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY
IN OPPOSITION. I'M COULD YOU
GIVE US THE AYE AYE I HADN'T GOT
ANY THE OF THIS BEFOREHAND SAID
COULD YOU DESCRIBE OF OUTLINE
YOUR CONCERNS SURE SURE WE I
PROVE US AND FOR BIOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY HAS PROVIDED A FACT
SHEET TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
OUTLINING OUR CONCERNS WHICH
INCLUDES- AMONG OTHER THINGS
THAT THERE ARE MORE COST
EFFECTIVE. CLEANER OPTIONS
AVAILABLE AND IT SHOULD WE
SHOULD NOT BE SHOULD PREFERENCES
OVER ONE TECHNOLOGY TOOK OVER
OTHERS AND THAT THERE ARE
COMMUNITY CONCERNS I APPRECIATE
THAT- THE- AUTHOR NOTED SOME YOU
J. CONCERNS WE ALSO HAVE INJURY
CONCERNS. OKAY I PLEDGE I WILL
DEFINITELY READ YOUR LETTER
CAREFULLY I JUST HEARING ABOUT
IT- YOU AND I WILL MENTION ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ASKING
WHEN THE AMENDMENTS- HAS TO DO
WITH- MEET URGING ARTISTS TO
ENSURE THE PROJECT MINIMIZE
HYDROGEN LEAKAGE RISK WHICH IS
AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP IN OUR
LAST HEARING THAT. I THINK
CONTINUES TO BE A CONCERN- SOME
. WE SHOULD THAT LOOK FOR
READING A LETTER. I JOIN- JANET
**** FOR CLIMATE ACTION
CALIFORNIA WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS
BILL IF IT WERE AMENDED TO
CLARIFY THE DEFINITION. TO- TO
WORK WITH. YOU SEE FOUR HUNDRED
POINT TWO OR THE- FEDERAL
DEFINITION THAT'S NOTED IN THIS.
ANALYSIS BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE
. VAGUE YEAH THANK. YEAH I'M WE
NOTED THAT IN THE IN THE-
ANNOUNCES. THAT QUITE WELL TAKE
IT IS A RESOLUTION. BUT POINT
WELL TAKEN AND I WILL DO SOME.
SOME ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP. OKAY
. PHONE LINES WHO HAS CONCERNS
ISSUES SUPPORT ON THE PHONE
LINES. THANK YOU IN ORDER
OPPOSITION YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND
THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE OF
THEIR OFFICE SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION. AND WE HAVE NO ONE
IN QUEUE AT THIS TIME OKAY SO
THE ANSWER FOR THE COMMITTEE THE
AUTHOR HAS ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS- QUESTIONS THOUGHTS
MOTION- MOVED BY CENTER DOLLY.
HEARING NO QUESTIONS YOU MAY
CLOSE THANK YOU FOR SURE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
THANK YOU. TECHNICALLY KALRA.
RIGHT S. R. TWENTY ONE THE
MOTION IS BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED
ALLEN HI ALAN I DALI. DALI I
GONZALEZ. HER TADO. PRASADA I
MENTIONED ARE. AND OF OUR I KNOW
WHEN. LIKE WHEN I SKINNER. SKI I
SIX ZERO X. SIX ZERO WILL LEAVE
THE ROLE OF AN FOR AND ENJOY
HERE THANK YOU SO. ALL RIGHT I
SEE SO WINNER HE- TO READ TO
PRESENT ARE LAST BILL OF THE
MORE THAT'S AND- I SIX SB TWO
THREE. YOU MAY RECEIVE A READY
CENTER.
I THANK THANK YOU- MISTER CHAIR-
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ON THIS
BILL- AFTER WE WERE IN THIS
COMMITTEE- I TWO YEARS AGO ON A
SPEED TO SIXTY WHICH WAS THE
PREDECESSOR BELT BUT- GOT UP TO
FORTY VOTES IN THE ASSEMBLY
FLOOR BUT WE COULD NOT GET VOTE
NUMBER FORTY ONE SO WE ARE- BACK
AT AT- AND AS NOTED IN THE
ANALYSIS IS A NARROWER BILL THAN
WHAT. ONE WHAT WAS BEFORE THIS
COMMITTEE- TWO YEARS AGO- SO-
COLLEAGUES SB TWO FIFTY THREE AS
THE CLIMATE CORPORATE DATA
ACCOUNTABILITY ACT. AND IT'LL
REQUIRE ALL US BASED COMPANIES
BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATELY HELD
WITH MORE WITH A BILLION DOLLARS
OR MORE IN ANNUAL REVENUE. IF
THEY DO BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA
TO DISCLOSE THEIR- ENTIRE CARBON
FOOTPRINT. I AFTER THIS
DISCLOSURE- THE STATE WILL BE
REQUIRED TO BASICALLY CONTRACT
OUT WITH A CLIENT WITH THE
REGISTRY- THAT WILL THEN HOST
THIS DATA ON A WEBSITE SO THE-
PUBLIC POLICY MAKERS INVESTORS-
WILL KNOW- WHICH CORPORATIONS
HAVE WHAT CARBON FOOTPRINT- WE
KNOW THAT THERE ARE- CORP LARGE
CORPORATIONS THAT WORK VERY
HARD- TO BE GREEN TO REDUCE
THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT. THERE
ARE OTHERS THAT DO NOT
UNFORTUNATELY AMONG THE ONES
THAT REALLY DON'T- DO A GREAT
JOB LOWERING THEIR CARBON
FOOTPRINT. OF A WHAT TIMES
MARKET THEMSELVES AS GREEN WHAT
WE CALL GREENWASHING MARKETING
YOURSELF IS GREEN WHEN YOU'RE
NOT- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE
PUBLIC. ACTUALLY KNOWS WHO'S
GREEN AND WHO ISN'T AND TO MAKE
SURE WE HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY-
THAT'S ALL THIS BILL DOES
TRANSPARENCY INFORMATION- FOR
THE PUBLIC- SO RIGHT NOW ALL WE
DO REQUIRE CARBON DISCLOSURES
FOR VERY LIMITED- SET OF
COMPANIES BASICALLY. LARGE POINT
SOURCE IMAGE MATTERS TO THE CAP
AND TRADE UP PROGRAM- BUT THE
VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CORPORATE
CALIFORNIA CORPORATE AMERICA IS
NOT REQUIRED TO DO THIS- SOME
CORPORATIONS OUGHT I DO A GREAT
JOB COMPILING THE STATE OUT
WALMART IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES
SO ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU
INCLUDING SOME OPPONENTS. THIS
IS SOMEHOW NOT DOABLE OR PROBLEM
SOME OF THE LARGEST CORPORATIONS
IN THE US ALREADY DO THIS IN
FACT WALMART GOES BEYOND WHAT
WE'RE REQUIRING IN THIS BILL SO
THAT OPPOSITION CLAIMING THAT
THIS IS NOT DOABLE OR TERRIBLE
BURDEN. IS SIMPLY INACCURATE
BECAUSE WE KNOW THE COMPANIES
ARE ALREADY DOING THIS THE E. U.
IS ALREADY REQUIRING THIS. THE
SEC IS TRYING TO REQUIRE A MORE
LIMITED VERSION OF THIS- THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF- BACK AND FORTH
AND- I HOPE THAT THE SEC
SUCCEEDS WHAT WE DON'T. KNOW
YET- AND- AS THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME. AND
CALIFORNIA SHOULD- DO THIS- SO-
CALL THAT I JUST TO STRESS THAT
WE HAVE. VERY HARD OVER THE LAST
FEW. WE THE OPPOSITION. LED BY
THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE- WE HAVE
WE TOOK A MOMENT IN THE LAST
VERSION OF THE BILL WHICH WE
HAVE ALL HONORED IN THIS BILL-
FOR EXAMPLE- SCOPE THREE. WHICH
IS PROBABLY THE MOST CONTENTIOUS
PART ON THE AND WE KNOW SCOPE
THREE INCLUDES SUPPLY CHAIN-
SCOPE THREE FOR MANY COMPANIES
AS ABOUT 90% OF THEIR CARBON.
EMISSIONS ARE EFFECTIVELY
CONTRACTING OUT OTHER CARBON
EMISSIONS- ANGUS GROUP THREE IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT- WE AND THE
LAST VERSION OF THE BILL THE
OPPOSITION CAME TO US AND SAID.
THIS IS GONNA EFFECTIVELY SWEEP
AND SMALL SUPPLIERS- AND ALSO-
CREATE A BURDEN I HAVING TO
TRACK DOWN SUPPLIERS IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD.
AND SO WE WORKED OUT AN
AMENDMENT- TO ALLOW- BUT THEIR
OPTION- TO USE FORMULAS AND
ESTIMATES WHICH ARE VERY WELL
ESTABLISHED IN THIS METHODOLOGY
THE SOFTWARE FOR IT ESTABLISHED
THING WE'RE NOT CREATING
ANYTHING NEW. AND WE DID THAT TO
RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE OF
SWEEPING AND SMALL SUPPLIERS IN
THE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN- THE
OPPOSITE THE MAIN OPPOSITION
LETTER. OF ONCE AGAIN SAYS WE'RE
GONNA SWEEP IN SMALL SUPPLIERS
RESPECTFULLY WITH ALL RESPECT
THE OPPOSITION THAT IS.
ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE AND THAT WAS
THE MOMENT THAT WE TALK LAST
YEAR AND WE HAVE HONORED- WE
TAKEN WITH OTHER MEMBERS LAST
YEAR. TO MAKE SURE THE
IMPLEMENTATION COULD BE AS
SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE- WE TOOK
SEVERAL AMENDMENTS ON
ENFORCEMENT STRUCTURE- IN
RESPONSE TO CRITICS FROM THE
OPPOSITION WE'VE HONORED ALL OF
THOSE AMENDMENTS- IN THIS BILL-
SO I WOULD BE HONORED TO HAVE
YOUR SUPPORT. AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR I. BOATS. NOW WE ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY OR TO LEAVE
WITNESSES. SARA SOCKS WHO IS A
SENIOR ASSOCIATES THE- STATE OF
STATE POLICY AT CERES WHICH IS
A- BUSINESS OUR COALITION THAT
IS A CO SPONSOR OF THIS BILL.
AND ALBERTO SANCHEZ THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF POLICY AT THE GREEN
LINING INSTITUTE WE ALSO HAVE.
IF QUESTIONS ARISE- CATHERINE
ATKIN THE DIRECTOR OF CARBON
ACCOUNTABLE- WHO HAS ENORMOUS TO
TECHNICAL EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA
IF THEY'RE QUESTIONS THAT WE
NEED TO ASK FOR AN ANSWER. THANK
YOU ALL RIGHT. HI GOOD MORNING
I'M CAROLYN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS A LOT OF
TIME JUST ON THE VICE PRESIDENT
OF POLICY AT THE GREEN LINING
INSTITUTE. WE WORK TO FUTURE
WHERE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR CAN
BUILD WEALTH LIVING HEALTHY
PLACES FILLED WITH ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY AND ARE READY TO
MEET THE CHALLENGES POSED BY
CLIMATE CHANGE. IN ORDER TO MEET
THE CHALLENGES POSED BY CLIMATE
CHANGE IT IS IMPERATIVE TO
RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT OF
COMMUNITIES TO KNOW HOW AND IF
CORPORATIONS. ARE WORKING TO
REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS AND TO
VERIFY CORPORATE CLAIMS A
SUSTAINABLE LEADERSHIP. THE
TRANSPARENCY REQUIRED BY S. B.
TWO FIFTY THREE PROVIDE
CALIFORNIANS WITH THE NECESSARY
INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO MANAGE.
THE EMISSIONS FROM CORPORATIONS.
BY REQUIRING REPORTING OF DIRECT
EMISSIONS FROM THESE
CORPORATIONS AND ANY EMISSIONS
PRODUCE FROM THEIR SUPPLY CHANGE
OR INDIRECT EMISSIONS. SB TWO
FIFTY THREE CREATES THE DATA
INFRASTRUCTURE TO DRIVE DOWN
CORPORATE CARBON EMISSIONS. THIS
MANDATE OF COMPREHENSIVE KITE
CLIMATE POLLUTION TRANSPARENCY
WOULD SET THE GOLD STANDARD FOR
THE REST OF THE NATION. AND
ESTABLISHES THE RIGHT TO KNOW
WHICH COMPANIES ARE POLLUTING
OUR ENVIRONMENT. HOW MUCH THEY
ARE EMITTING AND IF THEY ARE
DECREASING OR INCREASING THEIR
CLIMATE EMISSIONS. OFFERING A
TRANSPARENT AND PUBLIC WAY OF
VERIFYING CORPORATE CLAIMS OF
CLIMATE LEADERSHIP. NOW WE KNOW
THE CALIFORNIA THANKS TO THE
HARD WORK OF MANY OF YOU IS A
GLOBAL LEADER IN FIGHTING
CLIMATE CHANGE AND REDUCING
EMISSIONS. AND WE KNOW THAT NOT
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE GOALS THAT
WE SET FOR OURSELVES BUT MORE
IMPORTANTLY. BECAUSE OF THE
CLIMATE THE CLIMATE ACTIONS THE
REPORTING AND THE TRANSPARENCY
THAT THE STATE HAS FOR ACHIEVING
OUR CLIMATE GOALS. SB TWO FIFTY
THREE IS REQUIRING THAT
CORPORATE SECTOR FOLLOWED GHG
EMISSION REPORTING PRACTICES
THAT ARE THE MORE THE NORM. IN
OTHER SECTORS AND FOR THE STATE
. THIS REPORTING ENSURES
ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL REPORTING
OF CORPORATE- CORPORATE
CORPORATIONS CALLED CLIMATE
CARBON FOOTPRINT. CORPORATE
EMISSIONS CONTRIBUTE TO OVER
POLLUTE COMMUNITIES AND DEADLY
CLIMATE OUTCOMES FROM HARSHER
WILDFIRES- SEASONS AND HISTORIC
STORMS AND FLOODS. THE WORST OF
THESE IMPACTS DISPROPORTIONATELY
FALL ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. AND FOR
ALL THE REASONS ABOVE THE GREEN
LINING INSTITUTE REQUEST OR I
BOUGHT FOR HIS MEASURE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NECESSARY AND
SIR I THOUGHT SERIES WAS THE
GODDESS OF AGRICULTURE. IS THAT
NOT TRUE IT'S ALSO A MOON I
BELIEVE FOR SATURN SO NO THEY'RE
SIMILAR OF SATURN OKAY VERY
COMMON VERY CALM HAD YOU AS AN
OF WITH THAT NAME WE INITIALLY
STARTED AS AN ACRONYM SO YOU'LL-
SEE IT IN ALL CAPS AND
REGISTERED NINETEEN EIGHTY NINE
AFTER THE EXXON VALDEZ OIL
SPILL. AND VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON.
ESG VALUES SWITCHED ME THIS HERE
TODAY OKAY. HI WE'LL GET MORNING
A CAN. CHALLENGED MEMBERS HER
AND HOW OF- AND PARA SENATE
STEARNS AS B. TWO C. ONE WE ALL
BELIEVE THAT THE STATE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SUCH A GOLD
STANDARD. AND REQUIRING
CORPORATE EMISSIONS DATA
DISCLOSURE WITH SB TWO FIFTY
THREE. AND ARE PLEASED TO
SUPPORT AND SERVE AS A CO
SPONSOR FOR THE SPELL. SIMILAR
CLIMATE RISK REPORTING AT THE
CURRENT VOLUNTARY CLIMATE
EMISSIONS REPORTING LANDSCAPE IS
FRAGMENTED INCOMPLETE AND OFTEN
UNVERIFIED. AND THIS GAP IN
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE EMISSIONS
DATA CREATES A MASSIVE BLIND
SPOT FOR CONSUMERS INVESTORS AND
POLICY MAKERS. WHO ARE SEEKING
TO DERIVE MEANINGFUL INSIGHTS
ACROSS THE ENTIRE ECONOMY. IN
RECENT YEARS WE HAVE BEGUN TO
SEE MORE AND MORE ACTION ON
EMISSIONS DATA REPORTING FROM
LEADING COMPANIES. THESE
BUSINESSES AND MANY OF THEIR
PEERS UNDERSTAND THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE POSES A SIGNIFICANT RISK
TO THEIR LONG TERM ECONOMIC
SUCCESS. IMPACTS THE HEALTH AND
LIVELIHOOD OF THE COMMUNITIES IN
WHICH THEY OPERATE IN LIVE. AND
DISRUPTS THE VALUE CHAINS ON
WHICH THEY RELY. REPORTING
EMISSIONS DATA IN A CONSISTENT
STANDARDIZED FORMAT THAT ALL
COMPANIES MUST FOLLOW WILL
PROVIDE A COMPETITIVE EDGE FOR
LEADING BUSINESSES WITH
INVESTORS AND CONCERT. THIS AND
AS A RESULT MANY COMPANIES ARE
READY VOLUNTARY REPORTING SOME
FORM OF THEIR EMISSIONS DATA
INCLUDING OVER 80% OF S. AND P.
FIVE HUNDRED COMPANIES. HOWEVER
MANDATORY EMISSIONS DISCLOSURE
INCLUDING SCOPES ONE TWO AND
THREE IS NECESSARY TO ACCESS THE
FULL PICTURE. ACROSS COMPANIES-
EUGENE'S. THIS BILL WOULD LEVEL
THE PLAYING FIELD BY ENSURING
THAT ALL MAJOR PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE COMPANIES DISCLOSE THEIR
FULL EMISSIONS INVENTORY. AND
THIS BILL WILL ALSO COMPLEMENT
THE SEC'S PROPOSED CLIMATE
DISCLOSURE RULE AS WELL AS THE
EUROPE EUROPEAN CORPORATE
SUSTAINABILITY REPORTING
DIRECTIVE. THAT TOOK EFFECT IN
JANUARY. AND GLOBAL STANDARDS
THAT ARE EXPECTED TO BE
FINALIZED THIS YEAR BUT I. R. R.
I. F. R. S. SO MANY ACRONYMS AND
SUSTAINABILITY WORLD.
INTERNATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY
STANDARDS BOARD. I WOULD ALSO
LIKE TO NOTE THAT SEVERAL MAJOR
COMPANIES AND INSTITUTIONS RT
SUPPORT THE SPELL INCLUDING
PATAGONIA I Q. USA. DIGNITY
HEALTH SIERRA NEVADA BREWING
COMPANY AVOCADO GREEN BRANDS
GROVE COLLABORATIVE AND
EVERLANE. FOR ALL THE REASONS
STATED ABOVE SERIOUS
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST HER AYE
VOTE ON THIS MEASURE THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION
. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT OTHER
FOLKS WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR
THE BILL WHO ARE HERE IN PERSON
. IT'S COMING UP TO THE MIKE.
HEY CALMLY ON BEHALF OF THE SEIU
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. JACK ****
FOR CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PERSEVERANCE. CHRISTINE IS
CURRENT WITH THE CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN SUPPORT
. THE PUBLIC CALIFORNIA AGAINST
WASTE IN SUPPORT. MELISSA ROMERO
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB TWO
EIGHTY THREE THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT- YES SORRY IT WAS ALSO
ASKED TO VOICE A SUPPORTIVE
COMMUNITY WATER CENTER FOR THE
BILL GREAT THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
WHEN THIS IS IN OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL WANT TO COME UP TO THE
MARK. GOOD MORE OPERATIVE IN
ENGLAND ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE FIRST I JUST LIKE TO
TAKE A MOMENT AND- THANK CENTER
WINNER FOR THE WORK THAT HE'S
DONE WITH THIS PREVIOUSLY ON
THIS BILL- HE'S REALLY KIND OF
SERVE AS A MODEL AUTHOR OF
ANOTHER KIND OF. YOU KNOW-
COLLABORATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO
SEE FROM. MEMBERS MOVING ELLIOTT
IT THROUGH THE FOR THROUGHOUT
THIS PROCESS SO JUST WANT TO
TAKE A MOMENT AND ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT- ME HAS BEEN VERY
ACCOMMODATING. HOWEVER THERE ARE
STILL SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE
PRIMARILY- THE- TRANSITION ISN'T
EXACTLY HAPPENING YOU KNOW IT-
THROUGH ONE- SECTOR- THE
ECONOMIC IMPACT VARIES DEPENDING
ON WHAT SECTOR AND WHICH SECTOR
AND WHICH IS WHY C. COMPANIES IN
VARIOUS STAGES OF ANALYSIS
TRACKING AND GOAL SETTING- WE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE OUTSIZE
IMPACT WOULD HAVE ON MEDIUM AND
SMALL BUSINESSES. PREVAILS
LOCATED HERE IN CALIFORNIA- IT'S
IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE THE SUPPLY
CHAIN. FROM SCOPE THREE- SO IT
JUST CREATES A REAL CHALLENGING
DYNAMIC- GIVEN THE BREADTH OF
CALCULATING SCOPE THREE
EMISSIONS IT'S STILL MORE OF AN
ART THAN A SCIENCE- THERE ISN'T
REALLY AN OBJECTIVE CRITERIA FOR
CALCULATING SCOPE THREE. AND-
THIS FUNDAMENTALLY COMPROMISES
THE NOTION THAT SB TWO TO FIFTY
THREE IS THAT. INTENDED TO BE A
TRANSPARENCY MEASURE- DATA
TRANSPARENCY IS ONLY VALUABLE
WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES TO
APPLES- THE DIFFERENT
METHODOLOGIES ARE GOING TO
CREATE DIFFERENT KINDS OF
ANALYSIS WHICH MAKES THINGS MORE
COMPLICATED- IF YOUR CREDIT IF
S. B. TWO FIFTY THREE WERE
ADOPTED AND CREATE YET ANOTHER
DISCLOSURE TEAM BUT ONLY FURTHER
COMPLICATE. CLIMATE REPORTING-
WHICH IS HAPPENING AT A-
NATIONAL AND GLOBAL SCALE- THERE
ISN'T YET BROAD CONSENSUS WERE
SAYING THAT THROUGH THE SEC INTO
THE BY DEMONSTRATION AND WE JUST
ENCOURAGE- THAT TO BE
CONTEMPLATED AT THIS BILL IS FOR
THE REVISED TO CONTEMPLATE THAT
AS WELL. AND AT A MINIMUM- SORRY
. AND LAST BUT YOU KNOW OF
ANOTHER POINT TO RAISE HERE IS
THAT- TEACHING MISSIONS ARE AND
IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL ISSUE-
THIS BILL DOESN'T REALLY
CONTEMPLATE THAT EITHER-
THINKING ABOUT THIS FROM A
GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE RATHER THAN
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. WHERE CARBS
REGULATORY AUTHORITY REALLY IS
CONFINED REALLY COMPLICATES THIS
ISSUE AS WELL- FOR THE REASONS
THAT I'VE NOTED ABOVE THAT'S
REASONS OR- OPPOSE THIS RESPECT
A POST THIS BILL. THANK YOU
THANK YOU THANK YOU OTHER FOLKS
YEAH. HELLO AGAIN MISTER CHAIR
ROB SPIEGEL SENIOR POLICY
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION DEFINITELY CONCUR
WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY GOOD
COLLEAGUE FROM CAL CHAMBER AND
ALSO DEFINITELY- AND DEEPLY
RESPECT THE EFFORTS OF SENATOR
WIENER AND KIND OF BRINGING
FORWARD. DISTRICT LARGELY
TRANSPARENCY MEASURE BUT- TO
GIVE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS A
LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN OPTIC AS
TO HOW THIS IMPACTS THE SUPPLY
CHAIN AND I UNDERSTAND. THE
ARGUMENTS SURROUNDING WELL IT
DOESN'T IMPACT SMALL BUSINESSES
WHILE. THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR
NOT ONLY CALIFORNIA SECTOR BUT
INTERNATIONALLY IS GOING TO BE
AT THE HEART OF THIS SCOPE THREE
EMISSIONS CHALLENGE WE ARE THE
ONES EVERYBODY KNOWS
MANUFACTURING THAT FINISHED
PRODUCT. THAT COMPLEX PRODUCT
THAT AIRPLANE THAT VEHICLE THAT
ELECTRONIC DEVICE THAT MEDICAL
DEVICE. AND WITHIN C. M. T. A.'S
OWN MEMBERSHIP. WE HAVE MEMBERS
FOR MANUFACTURERS THAT RELY ON A
SUPPLY CHAIN SOMETIMES TEN
THOUSAND OR MORE. SUBCONTRACTORS
AND CONTRACTORS TO SUPPLY THAT
FINISHED PRODUCT. THE ONLY WAY
IN WHICH THE REPORTABLE ENTITY
FOR SCOPE THREE EMISSIONS IN
THIS BILL WILL BE ABLE TO
COMPLY. IS TO GO TO EACH ONE OF
THOSE TEN THOUSAND MANUFACTURERS
OF SUBCONTRACTORS. IN ORDER TO
PROVIDE THE COMMISSION DATA NOW
I DO RESPECT THAT THERE WERE
MODIFICATIONS MADE IN SB TWO
SIXTY LAST YEAR INCLUDING- GO.
INDUSTRY AVERAGES A PROXY DATA
SECONDARY DATA. AND BILLS ARE
ALL FINE AND GOOD. BUT THE ISSUE
IN THE CHALLENGE WITH PRIMARY
AND SECONDARY DATA IS IT'S NOT A
REPLACEMENT FOR ACCURACY AND
IT'S ON A REPLACEMENT- FOR
COMPLETENESS. AND THAT'S WHAT SB
TWO FIFTY THREE IS PROVIDING IT
RELIES UPON AVERAGE DATA.
SECONDARY DATA NOT. THE
FUNDAMENTAL CORE COMPONENT OF
WHAT IS THAT EMISSION- MIT
MISSION TARGET. AND THAT'S AN
ISSUE SO WITH THAT AS WELL AND
ALSO WRAP UP HERE VERY QUICKLY.
C. M. T. A. OUR NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS OF
WHILE DISCUSSING THE SEC
MODIFICATIONS AS A BEEN ONGOING
NOW FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS WE'RE
CLOSE TO HAVING THAT FINISH. BUT
THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
FINANCIAL IMPACT IS FOR ALL
SIDES BUSINESSES AND
MANUFACTURERS. THE COST OF THE
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS CAN
EXTEND IN THE TENS TO HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. FOR THOSE
MANUFACTURERS OF PRODUCTS WITH
COMPLEX SUPPLY CHAINS SO THIS IS
GOING TO BE AN EXPENSIVE
ENDEAVOR. FOR CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES AND OTHERS TO COMPLY
WITH DUE RESPECT WHAT THE AUTHOR
IS TRYING TO DO BUT FOR THESE
REASONS AND OTHERS- WE DO HAVE
TO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THE
FORCES THAT ROUTE JUST CAN I-
CAN YOU JUST RESPOND TO THE IDEA
THAT. MAJOR BUSINESSES SUCH AS
WALMART ADMITTED THAT THE AUTHOR
JUST MENTIONED THEY'RE
COMPLYING- WITH THE WITH THE
BASIC PARAMETERS OF THE BILL SO
WHY HOW IS IT THAT THEY'RE ABLE
TO COMPLY BUT IT'S SO ONEROUS
FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. I THINK
ONEROUS IS IN THE EYE OF THE
BEHOLDER OKAY SO FOR
MANUFACTURERS AND WE DON'T
OBVIOUSLY DON'T REPRESENT
WALMART OR WALMART. FOR
MANUFACTURER THOUGH IT'S BROADER
THAN JUST THE RETAIL SECTOR FOR
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS BROADER
THAN TRANSPORTATION TO BROADER
THE BRING THAT FINAL PRODUCT. TO
A TO A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT TO A
CONSUMER. AS BUILDING. THAT PRO.
YOU'RE INCORPORATING WHAT'S YOUR
CORPORATE EXACTLY. SO ON ON THAT
LEVEL IT'S AGAIN. THE BRADY'S
POINT IT'S ON AN APPLES TO
APPLES COMPARISON THE MORE
COMPLICATED THAN A BIG RETAILER
THAT SPRING AND- SO MANY
PRODUCTS AND SOME DIFFERENT
PLACES AND AS IS COMPLICATED
SUPPLY CHAIN AND- I DON'T KNOW
I'M- I MEAN. IT IN SOME WAYS
IT'S VERY SIMILAR. YEAH TAKE
THAT FINAL PRODUCT THE T. SHIRT.
THE TELEVISION. FOR WALMART
THERE ARE REQUIRING THAT- THAT
THAT MANUFACTURER. TO ALSO
PROVIDE. THAT DATA I WOULD
ASSUME. WHERE WHAT WAS THE
MANUFACTURING PROFILE OF WHAT
WERE THE EMISSION TARGETS OF IT.
DAN FROM THAT SUPPLIER SAMSUNG
REVATI MANUFACTURERS THEY'RE
GOING TO EACH ONE OF THOSE
INTERNAL COMPONENTS. TO PROVIDE.
THAT ADDITIONAL DATA WHETHER
IT'S THE LCD SCREEN WITH WIRING
OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT IS HOW WE
CONCEPTUALLY UNDERSTAND THIS
BILL AND HOW IT CONCEPTUALLY
WORKS. RIGHT WILL WE CAN DISCUSS
IT FURTHER OF THE STATE HERE I'M
SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION
BUT- APPRECIATE THAT OKAY. I'M
OTHER FOLKS WANT TO JUST WEIGH
IN IN OPPOSITION MAKE SURE THAT
THEIR- OPPOSITION IS RECORDED.
THE MORNING OUTBREAK LET BILL
TWO WITH APEX GROUP ON BEHALF OF
THE SECESSION GENERAL
CONTRACTORS IN FINANCIAL
SERVICES INSTITUTE UNFORTUNATELY
IN OPPOSITION. AGAINST SCOPE
THREES THE BIG ISSUE HERE I
THINK WE COULD FIND A MIDDLE
GROUND IF WE JUST. RESULT SCOPE
THREE THANK YOU THANK YOU. HI
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MATTHEW ALLEN WITH
WESTERN GROWERS ALSO OPPOSED.
THANK YOU. AND THERE'S THAT
CLEAR WITH THE WESTERN STATES
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION WERE POST
. TO INVEST IN COURT
REPRESENTING SIFMA. THE
SECURITIES INDUSTRY AND
FINANCIAL MARKETS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING NICK
CHAPPIE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
TRUCKING ASSOCIATION AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MELANIE
CUEVAS OF THE CALIFORNIA BANKERS
ASSOCIATION ALSO AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU
IMAGE. THANK RAKEL BURKE WITH
THE CLIMATE REGISTRY. WE HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BILL- ABOUT
SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THERE-
WE'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. BUT WE DO HAVE CONCERNS-
SPECIFICALLY WE'D LIKE TO SEE
STANDARDS AND PROTOCOLS INCLUDED
IN THERE THAT ENSURE THE
INTEGRITY OF THE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS THAT ARE BEING
DISCLOSED- AT INCLUDING THE
INTERVIEW THE DATA. DATA THE
DATA IF THE INTENT IS TO PREVENT
GREENWASHING DO YOU WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT VERIFICATION IS DONE
CORRECTLY. MEASUREMENT AND
REPORTING AS WELL. AND THAT
INCLUDES INCLUSION OF THE- THE
PROTOCOLS THAT WERE DEVELOPED BY
THE VOLUNTARY REGISTRY CREATED
BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
TWENTY YEARS AGO. THANK YOU OKAY
. OKAY- TALK ON THE PHONE LINES
FOLKS ON THE FRONT LINES YOU
WANT TO WAIT RAISE CONCERNS OR
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. THANK YOU
IN SUPPORTER OPPOSITION YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN THE OFFICE
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. WE'LL GO
TO LINE OF FORTY FOR YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. ATTY MANSON ON BEHALF
OF THE AGRICULTURAL ENERGY
CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION AND
CALIFORNIA POULTRY FEDERATION IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU MEXICO
LINE TWENTY FIVE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. MY TWENTY FIVE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. DUBLIN BURKE ON BEHALF
OF A FRIEND COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
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OPEN. CORRECT PRAYER ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA LIFE SCIENCES
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LINE FORTY NINE YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. MORNING MEGAN CLEVELAND
WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IN
SUPPORT. THANK IN OCTOBER LINE
TWENTY FOUR YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
VALERIE'S ENTRY HUTTON WITH
THREE FIFTY BAY AREA ACTION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU BUT I'M
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THE RUSSIAN ON BEHALF OF THE
AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL GROWERS
CALIFORNIA APPLE BLUEBERRY GATE
IN A MOMENT COMMISSION WESTERN
AND HELP AT THE STATION
CALIFORNIA ALL OF EARTH. IN THE
FARMERS WEEK FAR WITH THE
CURRENT DEALERS COTTON THING
SITUATION PRESSURE AT THE
STATION AND WHAT YOU CROSS. IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NOT GOING TO LIE UP FOR THREE
AIRLINER OPEN. MORE THE CHARTER
RADLEY BUT NELSON MY BY OF THE
FOR A LOT OF MONEY AND THE AND I
. THANK YOU NOT WILL DRAW OF ONE
YOUR LINE IS. NATALIE ABOUT THE
CALIFORNIA BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU
LINE OF FORTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. DARRYL LITTLEJOHN HERE
WITH NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU LINE THIRTY NINE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. TO STEPHEN KING
WITH ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA AND
CALPERS THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP. BOTH
GROUPS ARE IN SUPPORT OF SB. TWO
FIFTY THREE. THANK YOU NEXT GO
TO LINE UP FORTY FIVE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING THIS IS
RYAN ELAINE WITTY CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
OUR NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE UP
FORTY SEVEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HAPPY SHAKER ON BEHALF OF THE
SAN FERNANDO VALLEY CLIMATE
REALITY PROJECT IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE ONE
MORE IN Q. OR JUST WAITING FOR
THEIR LINE NUMBER.
YOU KNOW ME JUST A MOMENT.
THANK YOU AN EXCELLENT LINE
FIFTY TWO HERE LET'S OPEN. SURE
AMERICAN LINGER ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FEELS UNITS ALLIANCE
AND THE ADVANCED MEDICAL
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU AND WE
HAVE NO FURTHER SUPPORTING OR
OPPOSITION AND IN Q. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU WILL BRING THE BILL
BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS
DISCUSSION. CONCERNS SUPPORT
CENTER TOP. MISTER CHAIR AND
THANK YOU CENTER WINNER I KNOW
THAT LAST YEAR I SUPPORTED. THE
SIMILAR BILL THAT YOU HAD THERE
WAS PROBABLY THE EXACT SAME
THING- I KNOW THAT YOU MADE SOME
CHANGES TO THE BILL I'M ALL FOR
CLIMATE CORPORATE DATA
ACCOUNTABILITY BUT I DO HAVE
SOME NEW CONCERNS IN THIS AREA I
MEAN I LIKE I LOVE THE FACT THAT
IT IT- PUTS A RESPONSIBILITY ON
CORPORATIONS OVER ONE BILLION
DOLLARS AT THE SAME TIME I ALSO
HAVE CONCERN OVER. THOSE
CORPORATIONS HAVE BEAN AND
COLLECTING INFORMATION OF YOUR-
OF THE OF THE STATE CHAIN AND
WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION THE
BILL FULL HAVE IN THEIR HANDS
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE BILL.
IS IT YOU KNOW CLEARLY DEFINES
WHAT NEEDS TO BE COLLECTED FROM
FROM THOSE- FROM THOSE
COMPANIES- EIGHT I BELIEVE THAT
IT LEAVES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
A PANEL OF EXPERTS TO ADVISE
CARB. AND I THINK WITHOUT HAVING
THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU KNOW
IN MY HANDS I CAN'T. SUPPORT THE
BILL BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW
WHAT WHAT WILL COME ABOUT- FROM
IT. AND THE- D. IF THE CONCERN
REALLY IS WHAT YOU'RE IN THERE
WAS MENTION OF WALMART. THE
WALMART JUST PICKS PICKS AND
CHOOSES WHO. AT THE BY FROM AND
CAN BE HAVE A COMPETITIVE EDGE-
DOWN THE DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE
OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS
PROVIDED MEAN THAT'S- THAT'S A
CONCERN THAT I HAVE- AND I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO
SAY ON THOSE ON THOSE ISSUES.
SURE SURE I APPRECIATED CENTER
TAUGHT ON THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL LAST YEAR
THIS BILL IS- NO BROADER THAN
LAST YEAR IN FACT IN SOME WAYS
IT WAS. SOMEWHAT NARROWED IN THE
ASSEMBLY- SO IT'S A VERY SIMILAR
BUILT TO LAST YEAR- SO FIRST
WHAT SCOPE THREE IS. IT'S CALLED
THE GHG PROTOCOLS WHICH IS WHAT
THE BILL IS BASED ON IS VERY
WELL FLESHED OUT AND ESTABLISHED
METHODOLOGY. THE COMPANIES
AROUND THE WORLD ARE USING TODAY
NOT WE GET WARMER AS AN EXAMPLE
A LOT OF OTHER COMPANIES BIG AND
SMALL ARE USING IT. IN IN THE U.
S. DOT IN THE E. U. AND THEIR
REPORT ON THERE. YOU KNOW
COMPILING SCOPE THREE SUSAN
WE'RE NOT CREATING ANYTHING NEW
IN THIS BILL OTHER THAN THE
REQUIREMENT TO DO IT WE'RE NOT.
CREATE A NEW METHODOLOGY A NEW
SYSTEM THIS IS ALL ESTABLISHED
METHODOLOGY- AND IT'S ALL VERY
WELL- DEFINED SO I DON'T. I
DON'T AGREE THAT THIS IS SO IT'S
LIKE A NEBULOUS SCOPE VERY. ON
IT- IN ADDITION- ON THESE
COMPANIES IF THEY WANT TO CAN
ALREADY. ARE COLLECTED STATE OR
REQUIRE THIS DATA FROM THEIR
FROM THEIR SUPPLIERS LIVE EVERY
ABILITY TO DO THAT AND SOME OF
THEM ARE ALREADY. DOING AT- WE
AND WE'RE NOT EVEN REQUIRING
THEM TO GO TO THEIR SUPPLIERS
BECAUSE UNTIL APPRECIATE THE
OPPOSITION TO KNOWLEDGE IN THAT
WE WORKED VERY HARD WITH THEM IN
THE LAST TWO YEARS- TO ALLOW FOR
SCOPE THREE. USE OF FORMULAS AND
ESTIMATES WHICH IS ALSO AN
ESTABLISHMENT THAT ALREADY SO
THEY DO NOT. WITH OTHER NOT
REQUIRED TO GO TO EVERY SINGLE
MICRO SUPPLIER AND DEMAND THAT
DATA THEY CAN DO THAT IF THEY
WANT AND SOME COMPANIES ARE
ALREADY DOING IT. BUT WE'RE NOT
REQUIRING THEM- TO DO IT SO I
THINK THE SCOPE THREE IS A VERY
WELL ESTABLISHED AND WE'RE NOT
DOING ANYTHING NEW OR OUT OF THE
ORDINARY- HERE WITH WITH THAT-
WITHOUT. REQUIREMENTS THANK YOU
I GUESS MY END OF LOVE TO A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FORMULA AND
THE METHOD. THAT ARE USED
BECAUSE- I THINK THAT'S WHAT
WE'LL GET BACK TO AN THAT IT.
POSITION OF HIGH ON ON THE
MEASURE ONE TO SUPPORT IZED LAST
YEAR. I DO HAVE AS A MAN YOU.
HOWEVER I DO WANT LEARN SOME
MORE ABOUT THE FOR. AND ADD TO
ABLE TO GET MYSELF BACK TO AND I
DON'T KNOW WELL ABSOLUTELY BE
HAPPY TO WORK WITH THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT- YES SENT
OUT. THE RICH CHAIRMAN SO. I TO
A LOT OF. AND ARMY- SO I'M A
PRODUCER. OF AGRICULTURE
COMMODITIES IN CALIFORNIA WHICH
IS. AMAZING I'M STILL HERE. WE
HAVE AB THIRTY TWO WE HAVE
AIRBOARD WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF
THINGS TO MEET GOALS OF.
REDUCING CARBON. IN CALIFORNIA
AND ARE JUST A TO CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES. SO I THINK THE
DIFFERENCE IN IN YOU KNOW YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT WALMART IS DOING
IT ALREADY AND YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT THESE IT IS BILLION DOLLAR
COMPANY SO I SELL. MY PRODUCTS
TO- AND I LOOK THEM UP COMPANIES
THAT ARE OVER WILL MEET THIS
THRESHOLD. AND MY PRODUCTS GO
THERE AND I'M NOT REQUIRED TO
REPORT TODAY AND THEY'RE NOT
REQUIRED TO ASK IF THEY COULD
USE SOME FORMULA I GUESS TO TRY
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I DO. BUT
WHEN YOU ADD IN THE FACT THAT
THEY CAN GET A FIFTY THOUSAND
DOLLAR FINE OR HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLAR PENALTY BY THE AG'S
OFFICE ACCORDING TO WHAT I'M
READING HERE IS THAT THERE WILL
BE A- ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK
SUIT LATER DOWN THE ROAD ABOUT
YOU KNOW. HOW ACCURATE THEY ARE
AND WHAT WHAT WHAT THE BILL DSL.
I THINK THAT'S THE NERVOUSNESS
OF WHY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT YOUR PIECE OF LEGISLATION
SO IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT.
ISSUE AND GIVE US SOME SORT OF-
SECURE. ANSWERING WHY IT WHY
WOULD BE YOU KNOW NOT PUSH DOWN
TWO. OF THOSE SMALLER COMPANIES
THAT ARE. PRODUCING THOSE
PRODUCTS THAT GO TO THESE. LARGE
CORPORATIONS I THINK THAT WOULD
BE HELPFUL. I THINK STATE SOME
OF THE NERVOUSNESS BY LARGE
CORPORATIONS IS BECAUSE- THEY
DON'T WANT TO DO THE DISCLOSURE.
AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY WHAT
THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT AS
BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING
TO BE. EMBARRASSED BY I'M JUST
BEING TOTALLY BLIND I MEAN
THAT'S WHAT THE NERVOUSNESS AS-
BECAUSE WE WERE AGAIN WE WORK
BUT THEY THEY CAME FORWARD AND
SAID I'M A IT'S GOING TO BE.
REALLY HARD FOR US TO GO THROUGH
THE ENTIRE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN.
THOSE TEN THOUSAND. TO TEN
THOUSAND SUPPLIERS THAT THAT
THE- FOLKS IN THE MANUFACTURER'S
TALKED ABOUT- GROUP WE DON'T
WANT TO GO TO TEN THOUSAND
PEOPLE WAS OKAY WILL WORK WITH
YOU. AND ALLOW YOU THE OPTION
YOU CAN GO TO ALL OF THEM IF YOU
WANT TO. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
YOU CAN USE THESE ESTIMATES OF
FORMULAS WHICH ARE WELL
ESTABLISHED METHODOLOGY TO
ESTABLISH SOFTWARE IT'S AN
ESTABLISHED THING- AND YOU CAN
DO THAT- IF YOU WANT TO. AND NOW
THEY COME BACK AND SAY WELL THE
ONE HAND IT'S STILL GOING TO
AFFECT OUR SUPPLIERS. WHICH IT
DOESN'T THAT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE
ON THE OTHER HAND. YOU YOU YOU
ACCOMMODATED US BY SAYING WE
COULD USE FORMULAS NOW WE'RE
SAYING IT'S NOT ACCURATE ENOUGH.
TO FORM AS WELL WHICH WAY IS IT.
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA BE TOO
ACCURATE TOO HARD TO GET THAT
PRECISE ACCURACY AND GOING TO
SLEEP IN SMALL SUPPLIERS. AND BE
TOO BURDENSOME OKAY WE'LL USE
ESTIMATES WELL NOW IT'S NOT
ACCURATE ENOUGH. SO I UNDERSTAND
THE OPPOSE THE BILL AND I
APPRECIATE THAT THEY HAVE WORKED
WITH US. BUT AT SOME POINT THE
ARGUMENTS STOP MAKING SENSE- I
THINK THE COMPANIES LARGELY ARE
GOING TO USE THE FORMULAS- THAT
THAT'S WHAT I. I I'M I STRONGLY
SUSPECT THAT- IF A COMPANY WAS
AND- FOUND THE TERM TO GET
PRECISE DATA FROM ITS SUPPLIERS.
THEY WILL PROBABLY BE DOING THAT
ALREADY. RIGHT THEY THEY DON'T
LIKE THIS BILL THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO I'D BE
SURPRISED IF THEY DID- AND SO
THAT THAT'S- THAT'S MY- TAKE ON
IT AND WE. DID THIS AND I MEANT
WE PUT A LOT OF WORK CAN TO IT.
PRECISELY TO LAW. THE OF. SUPPLY
BEING. AND WAS OUR BECAUSE- IS
NOW. BEEN TO REQUIRE AN IMPACT
ON THE SMALL SUPPLIERS. WHAT
ABOUT. OUT OF COUNTRY SUPPLIERS
THAT ARE REQUIRED TO. GIVE ANY
INFORMATION AT ALL. THEY THEY
CAN DOUBTS WITH THEY CAN USE THE
FORMULA IS AN ESTIMATE THAT'S
ANOTHER IT WAS. THE TWO REASONS
FOR MAKING A CHANGE OR WITH THE
SMALL SUPPLIERS IN THE OTHER
ONE. WAS ESPECIALLY IF YOUR
LARGER AND YOU HAVE YOUR OF-
WORLDWIDE SUPPLY CHAIN. ARE WE
GET THAT IT'S A YOU KNOW THAT
THAT. MICRO SUPPLIER IN
INDONESIA. YOU MIGHT STRUGGLE TO
GET INFORMATION. FROM THEM. ON
DIFFERENT DIFFERENT COUNTRY
DIFFERENT YOU KNOW. BUSINESS
ATMOSPHERE- THEY ARE THEN THEY
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CALCULATE AND
THAT'S WHY WE GAVE COMPANIES THE
OPTIONS. OF USING THESE
ESTABLISHED FORMULAS TO DO IT SO
THAT THEY WOULD NOT. GET CAUGHT
UP IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION.
OKAY JOINT AUTHOR OF GONZALEZ
HAS- MOVE THIS BILL- THANK YOU.
LET YOU CLOSE CENTER. ON THAT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH- BECAUSE-
I'D JUST. LOOKING BIG PICTURE.
THIS IS ABOUT INFORMATION
TRANSPARENCY THIS DOES NOT
REGULATE. THESE COMPANIES IT
DOES NOT REQUIRE THEM TO READ TO
DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THEIR
MISSIONS ACT ANOTHER OTHER BILLS
THAT ARE DEALING WITH THAT AND
THAT'S- IT'S GOING TO BE. ALL
THIS DOES IS THEY TELL US WHAT
YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT. JUST LIKE
ALL THESE OTHER CORPORATIONS
HERE IN AROUND THE WORLD ARE
ALREADY. DOING WE HAVE MAJOR
CORPORATIONS THAT ARE NOT SAYS
DOING THAT'S BUTTERS PONDERING
THIS BILL. UNDER ESTIMATING
SUPPORT LETTER SAYING THIS IS
DOABLE WE DO THIS IT SHOULD BE
STANDARDIZED- IT IS THERE'S NOT
FEW THINGS ARE MORE MADDENING
WHEN YOU SEE. SOME LIKE MAJOR
THE I KNOW THE OIL COMPANIES
OPPOSE IT WILL COMPANIES THAT
LITERALLY RUN AROUND. HAVING
LIKE GREENWASHING ODDS ON
NETWORK TV ABOUT HOW INCREDIBLY
GREEN THEY ARE WITH ALL THE
GREEN IMAGERY. FOR OIL COMPANIES
THAT ARE POLLUTING- AND YOU KNOW
THAT THEY CAN ADVERTISE HOWEVER
THEY WANT BUT THEY SHOULD AT
LEAST HAVE TO TELL US. WHAT
THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINTS SO THAT
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DON'T JUST
HAVE TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY SEE ON
TV. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE. ALL RIGHT- THANK YOU
SENATOR SO. THIS IS SB TWO FIFTY
THREE AND THE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
ALAN HI ALAN HI DOLLY. DALI
KNOWN GONZALEZ. IN DOLLARS I HER
TADO. MENJIVAR MENJIVAR AYE
NEWMAN. NO SKINNER. SKINNER AYE.
OKAY THAT'S TO- WITH ONE
ABSTENTION AS WILL CLOSE THE
ROLE IN THAT ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
MEMBERS LETS SOME LET'S THAT
THAT CONCLUDES OUR JANET LET'S
JUST MAKE SURE WE GOT ALL THE
VOTES ADDED ON. FOR EVERYBODY-
WE WILL START OUT WITH THE- SB
TWELVE ITEM ONE ON YOUR AGENDAS
MEMBERS. I DON'T ITEM ONE SB
TWELVE SURGERIES COLOR. SB
TWELVE THE MOTION I'M SORRY SB
TWELVE IS FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE
THE MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
CURRENT VOTE IS FOR TO SHARE
VOTING I FACED HER VOTING NO HER
TADO. TWELVE YEAH. HER TITLE I.
IT'S FIVE TWO AGAINST BY THE TWO
WILL CLOSE THE ROLE ON THAT
ITEM. LET'S NEXT GO TO I AND- TO
THAT STERN ASPECT TO IT I'M
SORRY ROLES BECAUSE THEY OKAY
ITEM THREE SB SIXTY NINE CORTES
HE'S SB SIXTY NINE ITEM THREE.
FILE ITEM THREE SB SIXTY NINE
AND THE MOTION IS DUE PROCESS
AMENDED THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE THE CURRENT GOAL IS
THREE TO ZERO CHAIR VOTING I.
VICE CHAIR NOT LOADING A DOLLY.
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I WENT.
SKINNER SKINNER AYE. OKAY THAT'S
FIVE ZERO TWO EXTENSIONS WILL
CLOSE THE ROLE ON ITEM THREE WE
GOT THE CONSENT COUNTERS THAT.
OKAY SO LET'S NOW GO TO ITEM
NINE THIS IS ITEM NINE GLAZIERS
SB THREE NINETY THREE. ALRIGHT
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE IS FIVE
ZERO CHAIR VOTING I ADVISED HER
VOTING AYE GONZALEZ. I BECAUSE I
ASKING HER. YEAH OKAY. SO SIX
ZERO OKAY SIX ZERO WILL GO ON
THE NO GOOD EITHER TEN IS S. R.
TO ONE OR TWO LETTER. THE NEW IS
VIDAK I AMENDED CURRENT- IS ZERO
CHAIR VOTING ON ADVICE HER
VOTING HI GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ I.
SEVEN ZERO OKAY SEVEN ZERO- I
THINK THAT'S OUR ENTIRE JENNA
THANK YOU WE BE BACK FOR A LOT
MARKS. LATER THANKS. HE DIDN'T.