OKAY THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
RULES WILL COME TO ORDER AND-
LET ME JUST SAY GOOD AFTERNOON
TO EVERYONE WE ARE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARING IN THE- STREET
BUILDING IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVERT NINETEEN RISK THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE DISSIPATION FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE THE PARTICIPANT TOLL
FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE ARE
POSTED ON OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE
WILL BE DISPLAYED ON OUR SCREEN
ALSO HERE TODAY. SO THAT NUMBER
IS. 877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS
CODE IS SEVEN THREE SIX TWO
EIGHT THREE FOUR. I WILL
MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING OUR
HEARING AS IS CUSTOMARY IN ANY
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DISRUPTIVE
MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE REMOTE
MEETING SERVICE ARE HAVE THEIR
CONNECTIONS MUTED. ALSO LET ME
ON BEHALF OF OUR COURT REPORTER
ASK ALL SPEAKERS COLLEAGUES IN
WITNESSES ALIKE TO SPEAK SLOWLY
AND CLEARLY AND SINCE WE'RE IN
THE ROOM- YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW
WHEN YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN- BUT
IF YOU'RE ON TELECONFERENCE MAY
INTERRUPT YOU TO ASK YOU TO
SPEAK SLOWLY AND CLEARLY. WE
REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET
YOUR TESTIMONY AND STUFF SO IF I
INTERRUPT IT WILL ONLY BE FOR
THAT REASON- BEFORE WE BEGIN
TODAY'S AGENDA WE NEED TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. AND A
REMINDER TO MY COLLEAGUES WILL
NEED TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE
FOR THE ROLL CALL AND EVERY TIME
AND THAT WE VOTE AND OF COURSE
WHEN YOU SPEAK. MADAM SECRETARY
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
LAYERED HERE. THEY'RE HERE WHICH
WILL BOTH HERE WHICH- BOOK HERE.
FOR THIS. ALL WOULD PROVE HERE
GROW HERE ROVERE ATKINS ATKINS
HERE. OKAY IF THE- THERE ARE NO
OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA- TRY TO GET
A DISPENSED WITH SOME ITEMS AND
I HAVE BEEN ALERTED THAT I NEED
TO SEPARATE OUT SOME VOTES WE'RE
GOING TO START. AND DISPENSED
WITH ITEM TO GOVERNOR'S
APPOINTEES WHO ARE NOT REQUIRED
TO APPEAR. IN AS I UNDERSTAND
IT- ONE MOTION I WOULD ENTERTAIN
WOULD BE ITEM TO. F. G. H. AND I
THAT WOULD BE FOR- THREE
POSITION TO BLOW A POSITION FOR
THE BUREAU OF REAL ESTATE
APPRAISERS. TWO POSITIONS FOR
THE BUILDING STANDARDS
COMMISSION. AND ONE POSITION FOR
THE MEMBER PARK STATE PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION SO MOVED
THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
LAYERED HI THERE I WAS TROUBLED.
BY THE TROUBLED EYES SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS. MODE CRITICIZED GROWTH
HI OF AYE ATKINS. AYE THAT'S
INSIDE. THANK YOU FIVE TWO ZERO
WOULD INNER A MOTION ON TO J.
WHICH IS THE SECOND MEMBER OF
THE STATE PARK AND RECREATION
COMMISSION SO MORE THANK YOU.
SENATOR LAYERS MADE OF SECRETARY
WE CALL THE ROLL THERE'D. HI
THERE I LOOK FOR BOTH. LOCAL
BOBO SMALLWOOD FOR THIS. PURPOSE
I GROWTH NO GROWTH NO ATKINS
FIVE SECONDS I THREE TO THREE TO
TWO THANK YOU COLLEAGUES I WOULD
ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM THREE
REFERENCE OF BILLS TO COMMITTEE.
SO MUCH THANK YOU MADAM VICE TO
OF. CALL THE ROLL LAYERED HI
THERE I WHICH WILL BE FIVE THE
TROUBLE GUYS. CUEVAS PUBLICLY
BESIDE GROW BY GREW UP I AT THE
HI I INSIDE. FIVE TWO ZERO THANK
YOU COLLEAGUES I WOULD ENTERTAIN
A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEES. PROPOSED SCHEDULE
. SO MOVE THANK YOU SENATOR
LAYERED- THE BUDGET CHERYL THANK
YOU FOR THAT- OF MADAM SECRETARY
WE CALL THE ROLL THERE'D HI
THERE I WAS TROUBLED. BY THE
TROUBLED BY PUBLICLY THIS. MODE
BY THE SIDE GROWTH I PROVI
ATKINS AYE AYE THIN FIVE ZERO I
THINK THAT LACKLUSTER. I WAS
BECAUSE YOU SERVE ON THE BUDGET
COMMITTEE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A
LONG ARDUOUS WHAT WE ARE. THERE
ARE THREE OF THE FOUR BUDGET SUB
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE SITTING
HERE AND WE ARE MARKEDLY ON IN
SUSIE ASKED ABOUT THURSDAY. YES
ABOUT THURSDAY WHEN IT GETS OVER
AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT- FOUR
O'CLOCK AND YOU DRIVE FIVE HOURS
BECAUSE THERE'S NO AIRLINES
THERE'S ONE DRIVER AND THREE
FLYERS ON THAT COMMITTEE WHICH
IS. THE REASON FOR THAT HAS
SURPRISED HIM LET ME THANK MY
COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUTTER.
BUDGET COMMITTEE AND REGRETTING
THAT I ASKED THE QUESTION. LET
ME. GO TO MY I GO TO ITEM NUMBER
FOUR WHICH IS- FLOOR IT
KNOWLEDGE MEANS WE HAVE FIVE
THROUGH NINE THESE ARE REQUESTED
A WILL COME UP. AS OF MONDAY
EVENING SO A MOTION. PHILIP I
THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR-
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. LAYERED HI
THERE I GO TO A BOOK WITH YOUR
BILL GEIST SMALLWOOD CUEVAS.
MODE WITH THIS SCI GROWTH HI
GROUP I ATKINS. HI CAN SAY FIVE
ZERO FIVE ZERO THANK YOU MADAM
SECRETARY SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO
TURN TO GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES
WHO ARE REQUIRED TO APPEAR AND
WE'RE GONNA START WITH ITEM ONE
A. AND THAT'S THE APPOINTMENT
PLEASE COME ON FORWARD MR
RENTALS. AS I'M INTRODUCING YOU.
THE APPOINTMENT OF JOHN RG
REYNOLDS JD AS MEMBER OF THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. LET
ME WELCOME YOU. AND INVITE YOU
TO GO AHEAD IN- ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR
INTRODUCED ANYONE WITH YOU HERE
TODAY OR HER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE
TO ACKNOWLEDGE MAKE ANY OPENING
COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE. AND
THEN WE'LL GO RIGHT TO
COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS AND
ANSWERS. THANK YOU AND GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND VICE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
RULES COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERING MY APPOINTMENT AS A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION. I AM
HONORED TO BE APPOINTED TO THIS
POSITION BY GOVERNOR NEWSOM. AND
APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY. I WOULD
LIKE TO OFFER PARTICULAR THANKS
TO MY FAMILY FOR THE SUPPORT AND
ENCOURAGEMENT. INCLUDING MY
WONDERFUL WIFE AND MARIA WHO IS
HERE WITH ME TODAY AND MY MOTHER
NANCY WAS WATCHING REMOTELY.
THROUGHOUT MY CAREER AS AN
ATTORNEY IN BOTH THE PUBLIC
SECTOR AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
REPORTS CORE VALUES OF INTEGRITY
CAREFUL DELIBERATION. AND OPEN
COMMUNICATION. DISAPPOINTMENT IS
THE MOST CHALLENGING AND
IMPACTFUL ROLE I'VE HAD. AND MY
VALUES GUIDE ME AS I SIR
CALIFORNIANS AND DURING THIS
IMPORTANT COMPLEX WORK. IF YOU
SEE OVERSEAS INVESTOR OWNED
UTILITIES AND THE PROVISION OF
SAFE RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE
SERVICE TO CALIFORNIANS. AND AS
IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITIES FOR
SUPPORTING CALIFORNIA'S CLIMATE
GOALS. BOTH IN ITS OWN
REGULATORY PROCESS. AND IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER STATE
AGENCIES. THEY'RE REAL
CHALLENGES TO MEETING THESE
GOALS THE BILL SEPARATE ENTRANCE
OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU SEE
SUPPORTING CALIFORNIA POLICY SET
FORTH BY THE GOVERNOR AND
LEGISLATURE. COMPLAIN IMPORTANT
ROLE IN BUILDING A MODEL FOR THE
WORLD ADVANCED ECONOMIES
DEMONSTRATING THAT DECARBONISING
ENERGY SECTORS POSSIBLE. AS WE
PROMOTE SAFETY RELIABILITY AND
ACCESS. CUSTOMER AFFORDABILITY
CAN FACE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES.
MEETING THESE GOALS CAN REQUIRE
INVESTING IN ADDITIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THE CUSTOMERS PAY
FOR THROUGH THE UTILITY BILLS.
THIS WILL INVOLVE MAKING YOUR
INVESTMENTS IN UTILITY
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS STATE. I
SEE THE ROLE OF THE PC AS
PROVIDING CRITICAL UTILITY
OVERSIGHT THE WHOLE DETAIL IS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR SMART. EFFECTIVE
DECISION MAKING. BUT WE NEED
FROM THEM IN ORDER TO DELIVER ON
OUR AMBITIOUS GOALS. AND REMOTE
FACE UNEXPECTED EXTERNAL
CHALLENGES INDEED THE SPIKE IN.
NATURAL GAS PRICES THAT WE'VE
BEEN SEEING HAS A PROFOUND
IMPACT ON CALIFORNIANS HOUSEHOLD
BUDGETS. EVEN THOUGH THOSE
PRICES ARE DRIVEN BY A GLOBAL
COMMODITIES MARKETS AND NOT BY
INFRASTRUCTURE MEANS. PART OF
OUR WORK IS BEING NIMBLE AND
PREPARED ENOUGH TO RESPOND
QUICKLY TO THESE EXTERNAL
CHALLENGES. BEFORE I CLOSE THESE
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS I WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT
EQUITY. WE LEAVE WE LIVE TODAY.
WITH THE LEGACY OF THE PAST. IF
YOU SEE HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN
ATTENTIVE TO THE IMPACTS OF
THOSE DECISIONS ON DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE. MANY
BURDENS OF POLLUTION AND CLIMATE
CHANGE FALL DISPROPORTIONATELY
ON LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. AND WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY AS AN AGENCY TO
ADDRESS THOSE BURDENS. AND WE'VE
MADE REAL PROGRESS ON THAT FRONT
. WITH NEW POLICIES MEANT TO
CENTER EQUITY AND OUR DECISIONS
. I WANT TO HELP BUILD IF YOU
SEE THAT ADVANCES EQUITY. AND
HOPE TO BUILD ON THE PROGRESS
THE AGENCIES ALREADY MAN. MY
GOALS FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS TO
ENJOY SAFE RELIABLE AND
AFFORDABLE UTILITY SERVICE AND
FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS TO
EXPERIENCE THE BENEFITS. OF OUR
CLIMATE MITIGATION AND
ADAPTATION EFFORTS. THANK YOU
AGAIN MADAM CHAIR MADAM VICE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION
CALIFORNIA QUESTIONS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH LET ME- TECHNOLOGY-
STYLE SERBIAN HERE WITH YOU TO
SUPPORT YOU TODAY AND CERTAINLY
TO YOUR MOM WHO'S LISTENING. I'M
GONNA START WITH MADAM VICE
CHAIR AND LET HER- KICK US OFF
WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
THANK YOU I'M THINKING I'M SURE.
I'M THIS REYNOLDS IT WAS A
PLEASURE TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU
IN MY OFFICE YESTERDAY I
APPRECIATED THE CONVERSATION AND
THAT JUST THAT OPENNESS IN
WILLING TO DISCUSS ISSUES. THAT
I AM DEEPLY AFFECT MY DISTRICT
AND I BELIEVE THIS CALIFORNIANS
AS A WHOLE. AND FOR ONE OF THE
EXAMPLES THAT I GAVE YOU WE HAVE
A NEIGHBORING STATE ARIZONA
ARIZONA PAYS ROUGHLY SEVEN POINT
SIX CENTS TO NINE POINT ONE
CENTS. PER KILOWATT INDEM I AM
IN POSSESSION OF THE PGA ANY
RATE INCREASE UP TO TWO. 20%
THAT WOULD TAKE US TO TWO
DOLLARS AND TWENTY SIX CENTS A
KILOWATT. WHAT IS ARIZONA DOING.
OR WHAT ARE WE DOING THAT
INCREASES OUR COSTS THAT ARIZONA
IS NOT DOING AND BECAUSE IF YOU
CALCULATED THAT OUT INTO A- MY
AREA WHERE I HAVE A LARGE
DISCOURSE DISPROPORTIONATE-
FARMING COMMUNITY. AND OF. LOWER
INCOME WORKERS IN SOME AREAS.
THERE FOR DOLLAR BILL IN A- IS
ON. THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS A
MONTH HERE. AND WHAT CAN WE
LEARN FROM ARIZONA AND WHAT DO
YOU THINK THE DIFFERENCES ARE.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION- I
THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENCES AND- EVERY UTILITY
SYSTEM IS IN SOME SENSE UNIQUE
AND SOME OF THE COST TO SERVE
CUSTOMERS. ARE GOING TO BE UNIX
BASED ON THE GEOGRAPHY THE
TERRAIN AND WHERE THE CUSTOMERS
EXIST. I THINK- THE AUTHORITY OF
THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDED LAST
YEAR FOR THE PC. TO CONSIDER IN
INCOME BASE FIXED CHARGE CAN
MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN. HOW
OUR RATES ARE STRUCTURED
HISTORICALLY WE'VE CHARGED
CUSTOMERS. PAID VOLUMETRIC RATE
. AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS
BASICALLY THE MORE ENERGY YOU
USE THE MORE YOU PAY. IF WE
SPLIT THAT SAME REVENUE INTO
MORE OF A FIXED CHARGE WITH A
SMALLER VOLUME AFTER CHARGE.
CUSTOMERS WON'T NECESSARILY PAY
QUITE AS MUCH AS THEY ARE TODAY
BASED ON HER YOU SURGEON. AND
PARTICULAR CUSTOMERS I THINK
RULE. LIVE AND AREAS TO GET VERY
HOT IN THE SUMMER CONSISTENT
BENEFITS FROM A- THANK YOU AND-
WE ALSO- I WAS VERY IMPRESSED
AND I IN. YOU KNOW I HAVE TO RE
ASK YOU QUESTIONS THAT WE
DISCUSSED YESTERDAY WE ALSO
DISCUSSED- THE ISSUES THAT WE
HAVE WITH SOME OF THE UTILITIES
BEING THIRTY MEANT SIXTY MONTHS
NINETY MEN'S OUT RATE- FOR
PROVIDING SERVICE. WE TALKED
ABOUT SOME OF THE PORTS THAT I
HAD MET WITH SUPPORT- SUPPLY.
COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THE PORT
SYSTEM OF LONG BEACH AND ALSO
AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITIES IN MY
DISTRICT WHERE THEY'RE REQUIRED
TO HAVE ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS AND
ALL THIS BUT THERE'S NOT A
MECHANISM FOR POWER SUPPLY IT
DOESN'T EXIST THEY CAN'T GET IT.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE
WILLING THEY PURCHASED ELECTRIC
FORKLIFTS THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEM
IN ORDER TO HAVE A LEASE IN LONG
BEACH. A FOR THAT PORT AREA BUT
THERE'S NO THREE PHASE POWER
THAT GOES TO THOSE BUILDINGS AND
THEY'RE USING DIESEL. OR GAS
POWERED GENERATORS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE POWER TO
THE ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS WHICH IS
REQUIRED FOR THEM TO HAVE A
LEASE WITH THE PORT. AT I WANT
TO JUST GET YOU DON'T HAVE TO
ANSWER I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU
THAT I AM VERY VERY GRATEFUL I
AM VERY GRATEFUL. TO THE CVC AND
WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THE
INTERNAL RESPONSE TEAM TO BRING
AWARENESS TO THIS ISSUE. BECAUSE
I THINK THAT. WHEN HAVE A
PROBLEM WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO
MOVE. PRODUCT SUPPLY CHAIN
ISSUES AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN
THE PORT TOWN IN LONG BEACH THAT
SAYS. I CAN'T BECAUSE I DON'T
HAVE POWER. IN PGA OR OR ANOTHER
UTILITY SAYS LOWER THIRTY MONTHS
OUT OR SIXTY MINS OUT WHATEVER
THE CASE MAY BE. AND THERE'S NO
I DON'T THE APPEAL PROCESS. BUT
YOU GUYS HAVE CREATED A- IT'S
THE INTERNAL RESPONSE TEAM BUT
IT REALLY IS AN APPEAL PROCESS
TO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE
WITH PUBLIC UTILITIES AND I'M
NOT KNOCKING THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES I'M JUST SAYING THERE
HAS TO BE. WE NEED SOLUTIONS AND
I APPLAUD YOU. FOR YOUR STAFF
EXPERIENCE. I ASKED YOU THINGS
THAT YOU WOULD CHANGE. YOUR
GREAT OUT OF THE BOX IDEAS- AND
I DO APPLAUD THAT BUT I DO WANT
DEFINITELY APPLAUD YOU. AND THE
CDC FOR BRINGING UP THIS. AN
INTERNAL RESPONSE TEAM SO THAT
THERE'S AT LEAST SOME SORT OF.
DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE. THAT
YES WE WANT TO USE ELECTRIC. M.
ITEMS. THE TAKE YOU OFF THE GAS
PRODUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT
IN. IN AREAS. I MADE THAT POINT
YESTERDAY I THERE'S NO WAY. YOU
CAN EVER GET OFF OIL AND GAS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO
IT AND EACH THERE'S NO FACTUAL
B. YOU CAN'T DO IT- WE TALKED
ABOUT POWER PLANTS THEY WOULD
TAKE POWER PLAN. OFF TELL ME HOW
YOU CAN RELATE REPLACE THE POWER
AND WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH THAT CONVERSATIONS ARE
GONNA TAKE PLACE. BUT I DO WANT
TO DEFINITELY APPLAUD YOU FOR
YOUR INTERNAL RESPONSE TEAM.
WHICH CREATES AT LEAST A
CONVERSATION. TO ADDRESS THE
ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ON THE GROUND
ARE FACING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
CALIFORNIANS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT
POWER. SO THANK YOU AND I LOOK
FORWARD YOUR CONFIRMATION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU LET ME MOVE TO
SENATOR A CHILL BOTH. I ALSO
ENJOYED OUR CONVERSATION- WE HAD
ON MONDAY I BELIEVE IT WAS
MONDAY- WITH REGARDS TO YOUR
INVASION IN YOUR AND YOUR SCOPE
AND I WAS. VERY VERY- GRATEFUL
FOR THE TIME YOU SPEND WITH US.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION INTRIGUED I
WAS LISTENING VERY CAREFULLY TO
YEAR TO YEAR- INTRODUCTION.
EARLIER TODAY AND- I WANTED YOU
TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON
THE- UNDERSTANDING THAT. YOU MAY
THAT NOT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. A
IMPACT PRICING BUT THAT
COMMODITIES DO AND I UNDERSTAND
THE COMMODITY PORTION OF IT BUT
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW. THE NEED
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT HAVE
AN IMPACT ON THE PRICES FOR- FOR
ENERGY SIR WOULD YOU MIND
EXPLAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE-
WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT.
ABSOLUTELY AND I APOLOGIZE IF I
WAS A LONG CLEAR- IT IS
CERTAINLY TRUE THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS ALSO
HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PRICE OF
ENERGY- THE NATURAL GAS PRICE
SPIKE SAID. CALIFORNIANS HAVE
BEEN FEELING IN THE BILLS AND
JANUARY. IS NOT DRIVEN BY BY OUR
ELECT OUR GAS UTILITIES
INFRASTRUCTURE BUT RATHER DRIVEN
BY THE COMMODITY PRICE- A NUMBER
OF FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO THAT
BUT- I WAS I WAS SIMPLY TRYING
TO. TO INDICATE THAT SOME OF
THESE EXTERNAL FACTORS THAT ARE
NOT DRIVING BUT DRIVEN BY
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL IMPACT
OVERALL AFFORDABILITY FOR
HOUSEHOLDS FROM THE STATE. OKAY
I'M I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT CALL
OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I. I
KIND OF THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE
HAVE. SORT OF UNDERSTOOD BUT-
BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE MADE THE
SAME AND I THOUGHT. WE NEED A
LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON ON
ON THAT END BECAUSE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE
REQUIREMENTS- THAT WE- PLACE ON
ON THE INDUSTRY. THAT HAVE
ULTIMATELY AN IMPACT ON COST FOR
CONSUMERS IN CALIFORNIA THAT'S
ONE OF. THE- THE POINTS THAT I
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD
ON RECORD BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE
ALL THESE AMBITIONS AND GOALS.
BUT ULTIMATELY- WHETHER WE PLACE
IT ON THE INDUSTRY WE THINK
REPLACING AND THE ENTRY IT
DIRECTLY- AB. HAS A RIPPLE
EFFECT INTO THE COST FOR THE
CONSUMERS IN CALIFORNIA- THAT
END- I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR
YOU- DOES THE CPU CPUC. OUT PLAN
TO REVIEW HOW IT. IT AND THE
UTILITIES HANDLE THE PAST GAS
PRICES SPIKE. IN LIKE HOW IT
NOTIFIED REPAIRS AT OF THE
INCREASE AND THE WAY SAY LESSEN
THE IMPACT OF IT ON THEIR BILLS
. YES ABSOLUTELY- AS WE SAW
SPIKE IN GAS PRICES EMERGE OUR
STAFF HAS BEEN ENGAGED WITH
ENERGY TOADIES IN THE STATE. AND
TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW TO
COMMUNICATE TO CUSTOMERS ABOUT
HOW THEY CAN SAVE ON THEIR
BILLS- WE'VE SEEN MESSAGES FROM
UTILITIES ARE ABOUT TURNING DOWN
YOUR THERMOSTAT- TURNING DOWN
YOUR THE TEMPERATURE ON YOUR HOT
WATER HEATER. USING COLDER WATER
TO WASH YOUR CLOTHES AND ALL
TOOLS THAT PEOPLE CAN CAN USE TO
REDUCE THEIR GAS USAGE AND
REDUCIBLE SOMEWHAT. CERTAINLY
THE PRICES THAT WE SEE IN THIS
MONTH HAVE BEEN- EXTERNALLY
CHALLENGING FOR HOUSEHOLDS FOR
THE STATE AND I THINK THAT- IN
ADDITION TO THOSE EFFORTS TO
COMMUNICATE WITH CUSTOMERS ABOUT
WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE
COMMISSION NEXT WEEK ACTUALLY
HOLDING. THE AND ON BOND HEARING
WHERE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH
THE GAS UTILITIES SOME OF THE
ADDITIONAL CREATIVE IDEAS THAT-
CAN CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO REDUCE
IMPACTS ON CUSTOMERS I THINK
THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
AMPLIFICATION OF MESSAGES ABOUT-
WE AS AN AGENCY HAVE AMPLIFIED
MESSAGES. FROM UTILITIES ABOUT
ALTERNATE PAYMENT PLANS THAT ARE
AVAILABLE- VERY FORTUNATELY. I'M
SEEING TODAY THAT- THE GAS
PRICES FOR FEBRUARY HAVE REDUCED
VERY SUBSTANTIALLY- BOTH SO CAL
GAS AND INCENTIVE GAS OF
REPORTED THAT. WHICH HOPEFULLY
BRING SOME RELIEF THE NEXT BILL
THE CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO SEE.
AND ONE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION
THAT LATER THIS WEEK- WE WILL BE
CONSIDERING AND ITEM ON OUR OWN
AGENDA. WHERE WE AS AN AGENCY
ARE CONSIDERING MOVING UP THE
CLIMATE CREDIT TO CALIFORNIANS
AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO
PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY
BACK IN THE POCKETS. THAT'S
WONDERFUL NEWS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MR REYNOLDS ONE LAST
QUESTION- WHAT WE'LL DO THINK
HYDROGEN. FUEL WILL PROVIDE THE
STATE'S AT IN THE STATE'S
EFFORTS TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
AND I THINK- I THINK THERE ARE A
LOT OF INTERESTING POTENTIAL
PROSPECTS FOR HEADED IN THE
STATE. I'VE HEARD ABOUT LOTS OF
POTENTIAL USES IN- IN THE
TRANSPORTATION SPACE
PARTICULARLY FOR MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES- WE'VE HEARD
A LOT OF BOTH HYDROGEN BONDING
AS AN OPTION FOR GAS SERVICE-
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I
THINK HAS BEEN EXPORT QUITE A
BIT IN STATES LIKE OREGON.
SOMETHING THAT- THAT CAN BE
CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE AND-
DEDICATED HYDROGEN. USED FOR-
USED FOR POWER GENERATION IS
ALSO AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN
UNDER CONSIDERATION. THANK
HYDROGEN AS WITH WITH OTHER NEW
AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES WE
SHOULD BE WE SHOULD CERTAINLY BE
CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL THAT
THEY HAVE TO. HELP US
DECARBONISE MANAGE COSTS AND
PROMOTE CERTAIN LIABILITY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR-
AND THANK YOU MISTER REYNOLDS
FOR OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER
THIS WEEK IT WAS A VERY-
INFORMATIVE AND- WAS GOOD TO
HEAR- FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE
PRETTY GOOD FOR SOMEONE WHO'S
BEEN. IN THIS- THE P. C. SPACE-
FOR MANY YEARS- IN TO HEAR SOME
OF THE VISION AND- INNOVATIONS-
THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON
PARTICULARLY AROUND. ENGAGEMENT
OF RATE PAYERS IN THE PROCESS. I
WANT TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON SOME
OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE HAVE RAISED AND
I KNOW YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT
THE- THE SERVICE BILL SHOCK-
THAT SO MANY FOLKS EXPERIENCE IN
THE LAST- FEW WEEKS- AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE UC JUST
ANNOUNCED- WHAT THEY'RE CALLING
AN INBOUND BONK. WHICH IS A
PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON THIS ISSUE.
CAN YOU SHARE THE ACTIONS THAT
YOU AND YOUR FELLOW
COMMISSIONERS INTEND TO TAKE TO
AND DRESS THESE HIGH COSTS. HOW
DO YOU INVESTIGATE THESE KINDS
OF SPIKES AND I THINK MORE
IMPORTANTLY HOW DO YOU ENGAGE IN
A CONVERSATION WITH REPAIRS YOU
KNOW THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THE
RATEPAYERS IS THE UTILITIES. IS
THE GOVERNMENT- WE KNOW THIS
PARTNERSHIP HAS TO WORK ON A
PARTICULARLY WITH OUR FUTURE-
BENCHMARKS FOR A SUSTAINABLE-
RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCE IN THE
STATE AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD
EXAMPLE WHEN WE HAVE. SOMETHING
THAT HAS SUCH A DIRECT IMPACT ON
ON OUR COMMUNITIES YOU KNOW HOW
ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS IT AND
HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE WHAT
IS THE- THE MECHANISM BY WHICH
YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION. WITH THE RATE
PAYERS. THANK YOU- SO IN
ADDITION TO SOME OF THE
IMMEDIATE TERM WORK THAT WE ARE
DOING TO AMPLIFY MESSAGES TO
CUSTOMERS ARE CALIFORNIA ABOUT
HOW THEY CAN REDUCE THEIR OWN
BILLS. IN ADDITION TO THE
CLIMATE CREDIT AND- NONBANK THAT
WILL BE HOLDING NEXT WEEK WHERE
WE CAN DISCUSS SOME IDEAS WITH-
WITH UTILITY LEADERSHIP. I THINK
IN THE LONGER TERM WE ALSO NEED
TO LOOK AT. OUR RELIANCE ON
NATURAL GAS AND HOW THE
VARIABILITY AND THE COMMODITY
PRICE FOR NATURAL GAS AND OF
SUCH A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON
CALIFORNIANS- IF WE CAN SAVE
SOME SOME OF OUR GAS USAGE FOR
SPACE HEATING BY WHETHER RISING
HOMES AS AN EXAMPLE- THAT CAN.
INSULATE US SOMEWHAT. BOTH
LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY FROM
THE PRICES OF NATURAL GAS IS A
COMMODITY. AND IN YOUR
ESTIMATION IS THERE A WAY TO.
PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING- YOU
KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WHEN I
DRIVE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD I
CAN SEE THE PRICE OF GAS AND I
KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING UP AND I
KNOW. HOW TO CORRECT THAT I CAN
DRIVE YOU KNOW SHARE I COULD YOU
KNOW CARPOOL I COULD JUST GO
HALF A TANK. WHEN YOU GET A BILL
THAT'S TRIPLE WHAT YOU'RE
EXPECTING IT'S A LITTLE
DIFFERENT TO BUDGET AROUND THAT
SO YOU KNOW IN YOUR ESTIMATION
HOW DO WE JUST PREVENT THE THESE
KINDS OF SPIKES FROM HAPPENING
IN A CERTAINLY THE SHIPS THE
STICKER SHOCK. FOR THE REPAIR
IT'S A GREAT POINT AND I THINK-
I THINK THERE IS A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF ROOM FOR UTILITIES TO
GROW AND HOW THEY COMMUNICATE
WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS WOULD PRO
ACTIVELY. WHEN THESE TYPES OF
SPIKES ARE HAPPENING. YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT- PEOPLE
HAVE JUST A- COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT SENSE. OF THE PRICE OF
GAS. PRICES GASOLINE DRIVING
AROUND TOWN AND THEY HAVE THE
PRICE OF COMMODITY YES THAT ENDS
UP IN THE UTILITY BILL AND I
THINK THAT- I WILL I WILL BE
LOOKING FOR TROMBONE CAN SOME
IDEAS FROM UTILITIES THAT THEY
CAN GET. A LOT BETTER AT
COMMUNICATING PROACTIVELY SO THE
CUSTOMERS HAVE. A MUCH STRONGER
SENSE IN ADVANCE OF SEEING A
BILL IN THE MAIL THAT- THE
BILL'S GOING TO HAVE JUST A
TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THEIR ON
THEIR FAMILIES. THANK YOU- IN
ALONG THOSE LINES YOU KNOW WE
KNOW THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL
PROGRAMS PUT IN PLACE TO
ADDRESS. THE ECONOMIC HIT THAT
MANY OF US- WEATHER DURING THE
PANDEMIC AND- THE P. YOU SEE-
SUSPENDED- A LOT OF THE-
ELECTRIC AND NATURAL GAS WATER
UTILITY DISCONNECTIONS- AND- THE
STATE LEGISLATURE ALSO MADE
SURE. THAT THERE WERE RESOURCES-
LIKE THE CARE PROGRAMMING CAP
PROGRAM- TO HELP. RATE PAYERS AT
THROUGH THIS THIS DIFFICULT
DIFFICULT TIME AND- WE
UNDERSTAND- THAT THE P. YOU SEE-
IS DEVELOPING YOU KNOW SOME
PILOT PROGRAMS- THROUGH THIS
COMMUNITY BASED- ORGANIZATIONAL
STRUCTURE THAT CAN HELP. ASSIST
CONSUMERS WITH THEIR UTILITY
BILLS AND ALSO WAYS- TO
STRENGTHEN PARTNERSHIP AND
RELATIONSHIP- WITH REPAIRS BUT-
HOW IS THIS WORKING GROUP BEING
PUT TOGETHER AND WHAT OVERSIGHT.
DOES THE P. YOU SEE HAVE TO
ENSURE- THAT IT'S A BALANCE
WORKING GROUP- AND REFLECTIVE OF
THE UC- AND ESPECIALLY
REFLECTIVE OF YOUR- A SOCIAL
JUSTICE PRIORITIES- THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION I THINK THERE
ARE A COUPLE REALLY A COUPLE OF
BIG THANKS TO THE LEGISLATURE
FIRST FOR HER- THE SUPPORT FOR.
CUSTOMER RECHARGES THAT HAD
ACCRUED- DURING COVERED I THINK
OF THE MONEY IS APPROPRIATED BY
THE LEGISLATURE VERY HELPFUL TO
US THE CALIFORNIANS WHO HAD SOME
ENERGY TO- AND IN TERMS OF
ENGAGEMENT WITH WITH COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS. THE LEGISLATURE
IS FUNDING FOR- FOR THIRTY
MILLION DOLLARS FUNDING FOR
STEVIA ENGAGEMENT IS IN THE
PROCESS OF BEING IMPLEMENTED AT
THE P. YOU SEE WE ARE THIS
QUARTER GOING TO BE TAKING INPUT
FROM STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT HOW WE
CAN BEST IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM.
THE GOAL REALLY IS TO HAVE
BROADER AND DEEPER ENGAGEMENT
FROM CBO'S THAT SEPARATE FROM
OUR INTERVIEW NO COMPENSATION
PROGRAM- AND REALLY HELPS US
TRANSFORM HOW WE'RE HOW WE'RE
HEARING FROM CALIFORNIANS WHO
ARE UNIQUELY IMPACTED BY THE
DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT WE PUT
IN PLACE IS AN AGENCY. SO- WILL
BE TAKING THAT STAKEHOLDER
FEEDBACK THIS QUARTER AND MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WERE WORK
ON TRACK IN THE FIRST HALF OF
THIS YEAR TO HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME
FINAL RULES IN PLACE FOR THAT-
THAT FUNDING TO BE USE. AND WILL
DOES THAT FEEDBACK AND INPUT
SPEAK TO THE EARLIER QUESTION
TOO ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNICATION
NEEDS TO HAPPEN AROUND- THE
RATES THE SPIKES IN RATES IS
THAT COMING DIRECTLY. FROM THE
COMMUNITY AND WILL INFORM- KIND
OF THE UTILITIES NEXT STEPS AND
HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND I
WILL I WILL FOLLOW UP AND GET
BACK TO YOU I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE
I WILL BE STRUCTURE GIRL
REPORTER WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE-
WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A VENUE FOR
SOME OF THE LONGER TERM THINKING
ABOUT UTILITY COMMUNICATION WITH
THE CUSTOMERS. BUT WILL- I WILL
FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT
QUESTION WELL I KNOW THAT IN OUR
DISCUSSION THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU AND
THAT'S WHAT MADE ME EXCITED
ABOUT- THAT YOU COMING BEFORE US
TODAY AND HAVING THIS
OPPORTUNITY SO I LOOK FORWARD TO
THAT AND I. THERE'S ONE MORE
FINAL QUESTION- IN YOUR
ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL JUSTICE
ACTION PLAN WHICH- IS SORT OF
INFORMING THAT COMMUNITY- A
DIRECT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
WORK- THERE WAS YOU KNOW THIS
PLAN WAS ESTABLISHED- TO REALLY
SET. SOME VERY STRATEGIC GOALS
RELATED TO HEALTH AND SAFETY
CONSUMER PROTECTION. PROGRAM
BENEFITS AND ENFORCEMENT AND-
YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A YEAR- IN
INCOMING AND- YOU KNOW THERE ARE
CERTAINLY- SOME KEY POINTS THAT
WERE LIFTED AT PRIME MALE AND I
WANT TO LIVE STEP THAT PROMOTING
OF HIGH ROAD- CAREER PATHS- FOR
THOSE. ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIAL
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES THAT WE JUST
SPOKE ABOUT. AND MONITORING THE
PUC'S EFFORTS TO EVALUATE HOW
WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE- THE
SOCIAL JUSTICE. GOALS WHICH- YOU
KNOW IT'S GREAT TO HAVE GOALS
BUT HOW WE EVALUATE THE MONITOR
AND SHARE THOSE OUT IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT- SO.
SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE CAREER
PATHWAYS WHAT PROGRAMS- ARE YOU
INSURING- FOR E. S. J.
COMMUNITIES IN OTHER WORDS YOU
KNOW WHAT PARTICULAR TRACK ARE
USING ABOUT IN TERMS OF WORKING
WITH APPRENTICESHIP. PROGRAMS IN
OUR IN DO YOU SEE A UTILITIES
PARTNERING WITH YOU ON THIS.
THREE QUESTION AND IN THE SHORT
ANSWER IS YES I DO- I WOULD
POINT TO A DECISION THAT WE MADE
LAST YEAR WE HAVE A GENERAL
ORDER ONE FIFTY SIX WHICH IS
STRICTLY HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON
SUPPLIER DIVERSITY. AND HOW THE
UTILITIES PROCURE AND- ENGAGE IN
ALL THE PROCUREMENT WITH DIVERSE
BUSINESSES- THE GOAL THAT
PROGRAM HAS HAS REALLY BEEN TO.
C. UTILITIES INVESTING IN
BUSINESSES THAT REALLY REFLECTS
THE DIVERSE CALIFORNIA WE ALL
LIVE IN. LAST YEAR- WE WERE MADE
SOME REFORMS THAT PROGRAM AND
ONE OF THOSE REFORMS- YOU'RE
GOING DIRECTLY TO THE WORK FORCE
ISSUES- ASKS THE UTILITIES TO
REPORT ON WORKFORCE DIVERSITY AS
WELL AS FOR DIVERSITY SO THAT
NOT JUST THE- THE PROCUREMENT OF
THE UTILITIES ARE ENGAGED IN.
BUT ALSO THEIR EMPLOYMENT
PRACTICES THAT ARE- PROMOTION
THEIR EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT.
REFLECTS THE COMMITTEES THAT
WILL LIVE AND I THINK. WE'VE
SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS AND-
GENERAL ORDER ONE FIFTY SIX
PROGRAM IN. GETTING UTILITIES
PARTNERED WITH THE QC AND REALLY
THE STATE'S GOALS TO- PROCURE
FROM THE DIVERSE FIRES AND MY
HOPE IS THAT WE'LL SEE THE SAME
SORTS OF SUCCESS AND- AND
UTILITY WORKFORCE. LOOKING
FORWARD TO THAT I THINK HOW WE
MOVE PEOPLE OFF OF CAPPING CARE.
IS TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT
BRINGING THEM INTO THE CAREER
PATHWAY- I THINK IF PEOPLE DON'T
WANT TO BE IN PARTICIPATING IN
THOSE SERVICES. BUT BECAUSE THE
INTERNET MEETING THE WORK THAT
THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN ISN'T
MAKING- IT POSSIBLE TO PAY YOUR
ELECTRIC BILL AND BUY FOOD- IN
SOME CASES AND I'VE WORKED
DIRECTLY WITH THOSE. OF
VULNERABLE WORKERS I'M
PARTICULARLY IN BLACK AND IN
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES SO I
REALLY WOULD LOVE TO BE IN
CONNECTION WITH YOU ON THAT INTO
TO TRACK ON HOW- THAT PLAN WILL
BE DEVELOPED I'M IN SHAPE AND-
AND- FINAL QUESTION A MADAM
CHAIR AND THIS IS JUST THE
METRICS OF THE VALUATION. I'M ON
THE PLANE YOU JUST LIFT IT UP
AND OTHERS WHAT METRICS WILL YOU
BE USING- OR AT AS THIS VERY
TRANSFORMATIONAL YESTERDAY.
APPROACH TRANSPIRES AND
PARTICULARLY HOW WILL YOU INFORM
THOSE HE J. COMMUNITIES. I
REQUEST ISOLATION OUTCOMES YES-
MY EXPECTATIONS THAT WILL HAVE
DIFFERENT METRICS DEPENDING ON
THE NATURE OF THE PROGRAM THE
GENERAL ORDER ONE THREE SIX
PROGRAM I SPOKE TO SPECIFICALLY.
AND WE'LL SEE ACTUAL OUTCOMES
ACTUAL NUMBERS FROM UTILITIES
NETWORK FOR SOME REAL TO
TRACTORS OVER TIME- I SEE THAT
YES THEY- PLAN IS REALLY AN
OVERARCHING VISION FOR. HOW WE
INTEGRATE EQUITY AND FOR
DECISION MAKING AND WILL HAVE
LOTS OF DIFFERENT- LOTS OF
DIFFERENT CONSTITUENT PARTS
THROUGHOUT OUR AGENCY'S DECISION
MAKING THAT CONTRIBUTE TO AN
OVERALL VISION- YOU KNOW AS A-
AS ONE EXAMPLE WE'VE HAD- WE
HAVE A CLIMATE ADAPTATION
REMAKING. WHERE WE HAVE DIRECTED
UTILITIES TO FILE ANNUAL CLIMATE
CLIMATE ADAPTATION PLANS. WHERE
BETTER DIRECTED TO EVALUATE- THE
EQUITY IMPACTS OF DIFFERENT
ADAPTATION INVESTMENTS- AND- I
THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO
LEVERAGE TOOLS EXIST FROM THE
STATE LIKE CONVAIR SCREEN TO.
KIND OF WHERE- WHERE WHAT WE'RE
SEEING IN DIFFERENT UTILITY
PROGRAMS DIFFERENT PROCEEDINGS
THAT WE RUN AND- COME TO
UNDERSTAND IMPACTS THE UNIQUE
IMPACTS THAT HAPPENED A
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ARE
CALIFORNIA. WONDERFUL THANK YOU
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
SOME OF THE RESULTS OF THAT
METRICS. THANK YOU SENATOR-
SENATOR LAYERS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MADAM CHAIR AND- BUT
NORMALLY- IT'S THE CHAIR THAT
SAYS THAT WHEN IT GETS TO HER.
EVERYBODY IS ASKED EVERY
QUESTION AND- THAT IS MOSTLY
HAPPENED TO ME HERE AND I REALLY
APPRECIATED OUR- CONVERSATION
YESTERDAY WAS REALLY HELPFUL AND
I THINK. IT IS AN INTERESTING
TWIST US SENATOR GROVE WAS
TRAVELING FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS
I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT SO LET ME
MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THEN ASKED
TWO QUESTIONS AND- THE THING IS
. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO HOME
IF I DIDN'T COMMENT ON THAT
DELAY IN OKAY NOT THAT SHE WAS
REFERRED TO GIVEN THE FACT THAT
WE HAVE DONE AN SS REDO OR UNIT
AND WENT THROUGH THIS ARDUOUS
PROCESS. AND THEN THEY SAID IT'S
GONNA TAKE EIGHT MONTHS TO HOOK
THIS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT
HAPPENED TO ME WAS SOMEBODY
NIAGARA CULTURE THAT I'M CLOSE
TO. THAT ADAM WELL BREAK AND-
DOG IN A MERGING SEE WELL AND
WAS TOLD IT WOULD TAKE TWELVE
MONTHS TO HOOK UP THE EMERGENCY
WELL AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S AN
ENTIRE GROWING SEASON AND MORE.
AND SO THE URGENCY WITH WHICH
YOU CAN MAKE THE UTILITIES
UNDERSTAND. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
AVERAGE PERSON OR THE AVERAGE
CONSUMER WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY
BUT I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD BACK
UP. CENTER GROVE ON THAT. AND
THEN ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS
THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND I
ASKED YOU YESTERDAY IS SET. BY
HAVE SOMEBODY I'VE KNOWN FOR
FORTY YEARS IS NOW ON A FIXED
INCOME. AND EVERY TIME SHE GETS
HER ELECTRICITY BILL SHE EMAILS
ME. AND SAYS HOW CAN ANYBODY.
AND I ASKED YOU YESTERDAY. WHAT
DO I SAY TO HER ABOUT YOUR
ACTIVITIES AND HOW IT MEETS THAT
CONCERN. I THINK I SPOKE A
LITTLE BIT OF THE SHORT TERM
SHOCK OF GAS PRICES BUT I DO
THINK THAT WE HAVE LONGER TERM
WORK- IT'S REALLY OUR OUR DAY TO
DAY BREAD AND BUTTER ACTIVITY OF
REVIEWING UTILITIES RATES. WHERE
WE AS AN AGENCY NEED TO DO A
REALLY GOOD JOB OF. HOLDEN
UTILITIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR SMART
AND EFFICIENT DECISION MAKING
THAT'S GOING TO. ENSURE THE
CALIFORNIANS. GET GOOD RESULTS
FOR THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE
PAYING FOR UTILITY BILLS- I
WOULD ALSO POINT TO AN
AFFORDABILITY RULE MAKING THAT
WE HAVE WHERE WE'VE DEVELOPED
SOME AFFORDABILITY. METRICS THAT
WILL HELP US AND HELP US GET A
BETTER SENSE FOR HOW.
CALIFORNIANS ACROSS THE STATE.
ARE EXPERIENCING THEIR UTILITY
COSTS- AND- I APPRECIATE THAT-
ALL THESE UTILITY BILLS ARE
COMING FROM THE SAME HOUSEHOLD
BUDGET. IF YOU'RE SEEING AN
INCREASE IN ELECTRICITY INCREASE
IN GAS AND GRAYSON WATER
INCREASING AND BROADBAND AND
OTHER TELECOMMUNICATIONS- YOU
STILL YOU STILL GOT THE SAME
HOUSEHOLD BUDGET TO. FOR THOSE
FROM SO. I AM I AM FULLY
COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE DOING OUR WORK DAY IN AND
DAY OUT. TO ANALYZE RATES AND
MAKE SURE THAT. COME
CALIFORNIANS GET GOOD SERVICE
FOR WHAT AVAILABILITIES THANK
YOU AND- SHE WOULD NOT LET THAT
ANSWER GO SHE WOULD KEEP AFTER
YOU AND TELL YOU WE'RE GOING TO
MAKE A COMMITMENT TO SOME HOW
SHE WAS GOING TO SEE SOME
RESULTS SO. NOW I HAVE SAID THAT
AND I COULD TALK TO HER SOMETIME
IN THE HAVE A CLEAR CONSCIENCE I
THINK THE LAST SUBJECT AND WE
TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY. IS
RELIABILITY AND THE ISSUE HAS
COME UP IN TWO WAYS AND ONE OF
IT HAS BEEN IN THE STORMS HERE.
MY DISTRICT WAS GROUND ZERO OF
THE DAMAGE IS JUST. INCREDIBLE
AND CONGRESSMAN PAT AND I DID A
TOWN HALL MEETING. IN THE SANTA
CRUZ MOUNTAINS WITH TWO HUNDRED
PEOPLE THE WEEK BEFORE LAST AND-
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT KEPT
COMING UP AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN. IS THE- THE PATH THE
CONNECTIONS FOR BROADBAND. I HAD
AN EIGHT HOUR BATTERY BACKUP.
AND NO OTHER WAY TO POWER THEM
SO AS THE GRID WENT DOWN IN THE
MOUNTAINS AFTER THE STORM. FOR
GETTING EVACUATION ALERTS TRYING
TO CALL NINE ONE ONE. GETTING
ROAD CONDITIONS BECAUSE THERE
WERE SLIDES THAT CLOSED MANY OF
THE STATE HIGHWAYS AND OTHER
THINGS THE AREA AND THEY HAD NO
ACCESS TO THIS. AND THEY FELT
LIKE- WHY DON'T THEY HAVE
GENERATORS WHY DON'T THEY HAVE
REQUIREMENTS FOR LONGER
BATTERIES WHAT IS THE REGULATORY
SCHEME THAT IS ALLOWING THEM. TO
BE OUT OF CONNECTION IN THE TIME
OF AN EXTREME EMERGENCY AND WE
TALKED ABOUT IT HOW WOULD YOU
SPEAK TO THAT. YOU KNOW I THINK-
I GOT SEPARATED BY RECOGNIZING
HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT PEOPLE
HAVE. SUCH HIGH QUALITY
COMMUNICATIONS AND- BEING ABLE
TO ACCESS EMERGENCY SERVICES
DURING DURING EXTREME EVENTS IS
A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT. AND
WE'RE WERE SIMILARLY SAYING
CALIFORNIANS INCREASING NEEDS OF
RELIANCE ON HIGH QUALITY
TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICE HIGH
QUALITY BROADBAND. FOR ACCESS TO
HEALTH CARE- AND ACCESS TO
EDUCATION AS WE'VE SEEN. REALLY
MARKETING OFFEND IRAQ- ACCESS TO
JOBS TECHNOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ACCESS INFORMATION
ENTERTAINMENT- SO IT ABSOLUTELY
RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE WE
ACTUALLY HAVE A PROCEEDING
THAT'S THAT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW-
WHICH EVALUATES RULES THAT WE
HAVE FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS
SERVICE QUALITY. HISTORICALLY WE
HAVE FOCUSED ON LAND LINE-
TELEPHONE SERVICE QUALITY. AND
WE'VE GOT RULES SET FOR THAT FOR
THAT SERVICE AND IF CARE FAILED
TO MEET TOUGH FAILED TO MAKE
THOSE RULES AND ARE SUBJECT TO
PENALTIES. ARE PROCEEDING IS
GOING TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT
TO EXTEND THOSE RULES TO. MORE
MODERN NETWORKS INCLUDING-
WIRELESS NETWORKS AND BROADBAND
NETWORKS IT'S A MEASURE THAT
WILL COME BEFORE US AND I
CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THE
IMPORTANCE OF THOSE SERVICES BUT
I WOULDN'T WANT TO PREJUDGE THAT
MATTER WELL I KNOW YOU DON'T
WANT TO PRE JUDGE AT THAT ARE
COMMON ANYWAY. THEY DIDN'T IT I
THINK THAT THAT THE SAD FACT AT
THIS TOWN HALL MEETING. IS THIS
IS THE SAME PLACE WHERE FIRE
TOOK NINE HUNDRED TWENTY HOMES.
AND SO HERE WERE PEOPLE STANDING
IN FRONT OF US THAT IT JUST
REBUILT THEIR HOMES WERE UNABLE
TO REBUILD THEIR HOMES. AND
WE'RE HAVING. AT THE TIME OF THE
FIRE ALL THE THINGS WENT DOWN
AND THAT PEOPLE RAN FOR THEIR
LIVES AND THERE WAS NO.
CONNECTIVITY TO GET ANY SINGLE
ALERT OR TO DO ANYTHING TO TELL
PEOPLE TO GET OUT WHEN IT WAS
HAPPENING SO. I THINK THEY WOULD
WANT ME TO EXPRESS TO YOU JUST A
SENSE OF URGENCY BECAUSE THIS IS
A LIFE AND DEATH THIRD THERE
WERE STATEMENTS AT THIS TOWN
HALL MEETING OF PEOPLE. HAVING
SOMEBODY THAT WAS SERIOUSLY ILL
AND THROWING THEM IN THEIR CAR
THEY COULDN'T REACH ANYBODY
THERE WAS NO AMBULANCE THAT WAS
GOING TO GET TO THEM. NAVIGATING
ROADS WITH THEY DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND SOME MORE OUT POWER
LINES WERE DOWN TRY TO GET TO A
HOSPITAL OR DO THINGS SO THIS
IS. THE THERE WAS A SENSE OF
URGENCY TO THIS ON BOTH SIDES
AND THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE. OF
IT ON THE ELECTRICITY SIDE.
WHICH IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
SWITCH TO ELECTRIC. WE'RE TRYING
TO GET OFF OF FOSSIL FUELS. AND
P. JEANNIE AND THIS VERY SAME
PLACE. HAD THESE WEIRD TRIGGERS
THAT KNOCKED OUT POWER SYSTEM
DOWN FOR A DAY OR TWO WITH NO
WARNING. AND SO. THE WHAT WHAT.
FRIENDS LONGTIME FRIENDS SAID TO
ME WELL WE RELY ON THAT FOR
DIFFER WELL WATERS OR WATERS CUT
OFF. WE RELY ON IT FOR
CONNECTIVITY AND THE
CONNECTIVITY IS CUT OFF. AND
IT'S DONE WITH WHAT IN THEIR
VIEW. IS A CERTAIN CAVALIER
NESLER COMO. AND IT WASN'T
ABOUT. THE PUBLIC SAFETY POWER
SHUT OFF IT WAS ABOUT THESE
WEIRD SWITCHES JUST GOING AND
KNOCKING POWER DOWN FOR A COUPLE
OF DAYS. AND THEM FEELING LIKE
THEY WERE GETTING NO RESPONSE.
IT IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO
DEAL WITH IT AND SO. I THINK THE
NET OF THIS ENTIRE EXCHANGE IS
JUST. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO
THEM AND SAY. WHEN I VOTED TO CA
THIS GUY HE FOR THE URGE. HE HE
HE FELT WHAT YOU WERE IN AND
HE'S GOING TO EVEN THOUGH HE
COULDN'T COMMIT TO OPEN
PROCEEDINGS HE IS GOING TO FEEL
THIS URGENCY AND REPRESENTED IN
HIS JOB WHENEVER IT'S
APPROPRIATE AND SO- AND BELIEVE
ME- I CAN DELIVER. ABOUT A
HUNDRED PEOPLE TO YOUR DOORSTEP
THE COULD DO CHAPTER AND VERSE
AND SO IF YOU FEEL THE URGENCY
AND ACT ON YOUR OWN YOU'RE
SAVING YOURSELF A LOT OF TIME.
SO FAR IN ANY EVENT- I JUST
WANTED TO REPRESENT THAT IN LIFE
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION WE HAD AND LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU
. DO YOU NEED TO COMMENT ON ANY
OF THAT. I JUST. SIMPLY WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
SERVICES THAT WE REGULATE TO
CALIFORNIANS AND- IT REALLY ARE
LIFE AND DEATH SERVICES
ESPECIALLY AND IN TIMES OF
DISASTER. THANK YOU SENATOR
LAYERED AND THANK YOU MR
REYNOLDS- I DO ACTUALLY HAVE A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS- YOU KNOW
ALL OF ALL OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING
WITH IN CALIFORNIA IT YOU KNOW
IT SEEMS LIKE THE P. YOU SEE.
THE CPUC ENERGY COMMISSION CAL
AYE SO I MEAN IT THE EPICENTER
OF A LOT OF. ACTIVITY AND BEFORE
WE ADJOURNED AT THE END OF LAST
YEAR. WE HAD- ENERGY COMMISSION
FOLKS BEFORE US AT A CRITICAL
TIME WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING-
SOME POLICIES AROUND DIABLO
CANYON. OTHER ISSUES THAT PUT
INTO CONFLICT OUR CLIMATE GOALS
VERSUS PROMISES WE'VE MADE TO-
CLOSE DOWN- A PLANT- I WANTED
AYE AYE OTHER PEOPLE OF ASK
ABOUT RELIABILITY I WANT TO ASK
IT IN THE BROADER CONTEXT- THE
GRID RELIABILITY AND- THERE WAS
A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WE PASSED
A- S. B. EIGHT FORTY SIX THAT.
REQUIRES THE CPUC IN THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION TO
GIVE US A REPORT AND ANALYSIS I
THINK IT'S CALLED THE
RELIABILITY PLANNING ASSESSMENT
THAT SOUNDS REALLY EXCITING I
KNOW. BUT- WE DON'T THINK WE'VE
GOTTEN UPDATE I THINK WE WERE WE
WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A QUARTERLY
STARTING AT THE END OF THE YEAR
AND I KNOW THAT YOUR WEBSITE HAS
A WITH A WORKSHOP. PLAN BUT CAN
YOU KIND OF GIVE ME A AND E'S
ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE SHOULD
EXPECT WHEN WE SHOULD JUST.
EXPECT TO GET SOME UPDATED
INFORMATION ON THAT- OVERALL
ASSESSMENT PLAN. OF COURSE AND I
CAN FIRST OFFER MY APOLOGIES I
KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IT
CLOSELY WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN
THE ENERGY SPACE AND- TRYING TO
GET IT TO YOU AS FAST AS
POSSIBLE. WELL WE JUST WANT THE
INFORMATION- SO DO YOU HAVE ANY
THING YOU WANT TO YOU KNOW KIND
OF COMMENT ON THAT IN TERMS OF
THE WORK OR- WILL BE LOOKING FOR
THE REPORT AND I KNOW THE
WORKSHOP MY STAFF WILL MONITOR
BUT- YEAH I THINK. HI I WOULDN'T
WANT TO- TO SPEAK TO THE DETAILS
OF THE PORTABLE TOILETS FINAL
AND READY FOR YOU WHAT I. CAN
MENTION IS THAT YOU KNOW IN
ADDITION TO THE- THE REALLY
SUBSTANTIAL PROCUREMENT THAT WE
AS THE QC HAVE HAVE ORDERED IN
THE PAST WE HAD. ELEVEN THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED MEGAWATTS FOLLOWING
TWENTY TWENTY ROLLING OUTAGES.
WE CONTINUED WORKING WITH OUR
PARTNERS AT CHI SO IN CC TO
VALUATE NEEDS FOR RESOURCES. ON
OUR OWN AGENDA. IN- AND OUR OWN
UPCOMING AGENDAS WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE ANOTHER VERY SUBSTANTIAL
PROCUREMENT ORDER FOR ANOTHER
FOUR THOUSAND MEGAWATTS. COMING
UP. WELL ALONG THOSE LINES- YOU
KNOW WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST WHO. TO
FURTHER GO INTO THAT ON THE
TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY THREE
BUDGET ACT ESTABLISHED A NEW
STATE ROLE- IN PROCURING
RESOURCES NEEDED FOR GRID
RELIABILITY AND FUNDING THOSE
RESOURCES. I GUESS I WOULD HAVE
DO YOU THINK THE NEW STATE ROLE
COULD HAVE ANY UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. ON THE EXISTING
PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE AND THE
MARKETS. THAT WE USED TO ENSURE
GRID RELIABILITY- AND THEN DO
YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
POLICY- CHANGES FURTHER THAT WE
SHOULD ENGAGE IN. IT'S A GREAT
QUESTION A TOUGH ONE- I DON'T AS
WELL YOU GET THE POINT. YOU SEE
BECAUSE YOU ARE SMARTER THAN WE
ARE HOPEFULLY. YOU KNOW I THINK-
I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF NOT MIKE
. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. I THINK-
WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY
HARD TO BUILD A CLOSER
RELATIONSHIP CLOSER WORKING
RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR PARTNERS
AT KOSOVO AND THE ENERGY
COMMISSION. AND I THINK THAT
WE'VE WE'VE DEVELOPED A LOT OF
TOOLS THAT ARE REALLY USEFUL IN
FORECASTING HOW MUCH ENERGY
CALIFORNIANS ARE GOING TO NEED
TO GET THAT ORDERED. AND TO
MONITOR- THE SUCCESS OF
UTILITIES AND CCA'S AND GOING
OUT PROCURING THOSE RESOURCES. I
THINK ABOUT MY PROCESS WILL WILL
CONTINUE TO MOVE ON I WOULDN'T
WANT TO SPEAK TO A STRUCTURE
THAT. I'M NOT NECESSARILY
FAMILIAR WITH OTHER MAKE ABOUT.
IN THE FUTURE. WELL THANK YOU
THE LAST QUESTION I WOULD HAVE
GETS TO A DIFFERENT ISSUE WHICH
IS OUR BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND- HAVE AN- BEEN THE
RECIPIENTS OF SOME INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT FEDERAL DOLLARS IN
ADDITION TO STATE- RESOURCES- I
JUST WANT TO GET YOUR OVERVIEW
ON THE STATUS OF ANY OF THE
BROADBAND PROJECTS AND TOM LINE
AND ARE WE GOING TO RUN INTO ANY
ISSUES. A CERTAINLY ALSO YOUR
WORK WITH THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT TECHNOLOGY IN THIS
ROOM ARE WE GONNA RUN INTO ANY
FEDERAL- ISSUES AROUND FEDERAL
DEADLINES FOR USE OF THOSE FUNDS
. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE
ARE ON TRACK INCOMES OF
TIMELINES- WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO
MAKE SURE THAT PROGRAM MOLES ARE
CLARIFIED SO THAT WERE IN A
POSITION TO APPROVE PROJECTS
UNDER FEDERAL FUNDING ACCOUNTS
AND- AND GET THOSE OUT THE DOOR-
WE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ACCOUNTS FOR FUNDING DIFFERENT.
ASPECTS OF BROADBAND SERVICE
AND- IN A LOT OF A LOT OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. WILL
NEED TO HAVE FIRST- PLANNING
RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF
THE- SOME OF THE LOCAL AGENCIES
TRIBES AND COMPANIES THAT WILL
BE WILL BE PUTTING FORTH THOSE
PROJECTS. WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT
RULES IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THAT
ASPECT OF THE WORK AS WELL AND-
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE
WE ARE REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AS
THEY COME AND TRYING TO MOVE
THINGS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
THE AGENCY. THANK YOU I
APPRECIATE THAT- WELL NOW I'M
GOING TO GO TO MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO MAY WANT TO
PARTICIPATE IN OUR CONVERSATION-
AND OF THE RULES COMMITTEE IS A
LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER
COMMITTEES WE ASK YOU TO GIVE
YOUR NAME. YOUR ODD TITLE
ASSOCIATION IF ANY AND- YES I
SUPPORT OR NO I DO NOT SUPPORT-
WE DON'T ENGAGE IN A LOT OF-
DIALOGUE- IN THE WAY THAT SOME
OF THE POLICY COMMITTEES TO IT'S
EXPECTED THAT WE- ASK THOSE
QUESTIONS AND DO THE DUE
DILIGENCE WITH OUR STAFF SO.
JUST A REMINDER WE'RE GOING TO
BEGIN IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT. IF
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT AND WOULD LIKE
TO REGISTER THAT SUPPORT PLEASE
COME FORWARD. AND- WELCOME TO
YOU. IF YOU WOULD THE- WELCOME
SIR. IF YOU'RE A NEW. AT AND-
THE BACON THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
A CHANCE BUT YOU JONES WITH THE
INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS
ASSOCIATION. AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT TO MISTER REYNOLDS-
CONFIRMATION THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE. YES GOOD AFTERNOON QUE
CALMLY WITH EAST BAY COMMUNITY
ENERGY IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON JAMIE MINOR
ON BEHALF OF- THE CALIFORNIA
COMMITTEE TWIST AKERS AG AT
CALIFORNIA TWENTY TWO ACES THERE
SHE SAID. MARIN CLEAN ENERGY
CALIFORNIA ENERGY DEMAND
RESPONSE COUNCIL AN INTERCEPTOR
IN SUPPORT THANKS SO MUCH THANK
YOU THAT'S A LOT OF HATS TO
WEAR- AND YOU WEAR THEM WELL
WELL GOOD AFTERNOON JOHN MOFFETT
ON BEHALF OF ENERGY IN SUPPORT.
OF COMMISSIONER ADULTS
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WELCOME THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS JOHN WHITE WITH THE
CENTER FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY
RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGIES WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT. OF COMMERCIAL
RENTALS CONFIRMATION THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'VE OTHER
PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT. OKAY WITH THAT WE ARE
GOING TO GO TO OUR INCREDIBLE
MODERATOR WHO STANDING BY IN THE
TELECONFERENCE. AND THIS WOULD
BE TO TEE UP WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT WELCOME MODERATOR.
REALLY SEVEN WHICH SUPPORT
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. JUST LOWER GATHERED
ONE NUMBER THANK YOU.
OAKWOOD LINE NUMBER TWELVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
VICTORIA OF ROME WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL NRDC IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. MODERATOR NEXT
WITNESS. MADAM CHAIR WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE CAN QUEUE AT THIS TIME
THANK YOU WILL BE BACK WITH YOU
IN JUST A MINUTE. SO I HAVEN'T
HEARD FROM- THOSE IN SUPPORT
WILL GO IN THE SAME ORDER ANYONE
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED IN
OPPOSITION. ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NO ONE
APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE-
MISTER MODERATOR WILL COME BACK
TO YOUTH TO T. UP FOLKS WHO MAY
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
IT'S JOKES WISH TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF THIS PLEASE PRESS
ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
MADAM CHAIR WE HAVE KNOWN IN
QUEUE AT THIS TIME THANK YOU SO
MUCH WE'LL TALK WITH YOU LATER
IN OUR HEARING APPRECIATE YOUR
HELP SO LET ME BRING IT BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES. BOB MADAM VICE
CHAIR MOVES. TO FORWARD THE
CONFIRMATION MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL THERE HI I
WILL KILL BOTH HIGH SCHOOL BY A
SMALL WOULD LIVE WITH AYE MOTIVE
ASIDE GROWTH I PROVIDE ATKINS I
CAN SAY FIVE ZERO
CONGRATULATIONS AND- WE WILL
FORWARD THIS ON TO THE FULL
SENATE FOR CONFIRMATION. THANK
YOU HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR
DAY WE SHOULD WE TAKE A FEW
MINUTE BREAK OKAY WE'RE GOING TO
PROCEED FORWARD- WITH THAT WE
WILL MOVE TO ITEM ONE B. WHICH
IS THE APPOINTMENT OF MR MATTHEW
D. BAKER AS DIRECTOR OF THE
PUBLIC ADVOCATE'S OFFICE AT THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. SO
LET ME. WELCOME YOU DIRECTOR
BAKER. AND- I COME UP AND GET
SAID I'LL OFFER YOU THE SAME
OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE
YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGE ANYONE YOU
WOULD LIKE. MAKE OPENING
COMMENTS THAT WILL GO RIGHT TO
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. I WANT
TO THANK GOVERNOR NEWSOM AND HIS
TEAM FOR POINTING ME. I ALSO
WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR
CONSIDERING MY APPOINTMENT. AND
YOUR STAFFS FOR THEIR TIME AND
ASSISTANCE. FINALLY I WANT TO
THANK MY FAMILY WHO ARE WATCHING
REMOTE TODAY MY WIFE KERRY MY
SON CHARLIE. AND MY MOM AND DAD-
HI MOM- I AM HONORED. TO BE HERE
AND I'M HONORED TO HAVE SERVED
AS THE DIRECTOR THE PUBLIC
ADVOCATES FOR THE OFFICE FOR THE
LAST YEAR. I AM PROUD OF THE
DEDICATED TEAM AT THE PUBLIC
ADVOCATE'S OFFICE THAT FIGHTS
EVERYDAY FOR AFFORDABLE SAFE AND
RELIABLE UTILITY SERVICES.
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS
WHO ARE MOST IN NEED. IN IT
ANNUAL UTILITY SPACE. THE
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING
RIGHT NOW ARE DAUNTING WE HAVE
RISING UTILITY BILLS AND
ELECTRICITY AND WATER AND
BROADBAND. THE IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE THREATEN OUR
ELECTRIC AND WATER RELIABILITY
AND HIGHLIGHT THE NEED TO
TRANSFORM. OUR ENERGY SYSTEMS.
FINALLY THE COVERED CRISIS HAS
HIGHLIGHTED THE NEED TO PROMOTE
ACCESS AND AFFORDABILITY AND
BROADBAND. ESPECIALLY IN. THE
MOST UNDERSERVED AREAS. MY GOALS
ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD. OF WHILE WE
REINVEST IN UTILITY
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED. MY
OFFICE WILL PRIORITIZE SAFE AND
RELIABLE SERVICE IN ENERGY WATER
AND BROADBAND. WHAT TO
PRIORITIZE THE TRANSITION. TO
CLEAN ENERGY TO MEET OUR CLIMATE
GOALS. AND WE WANT TO DO SO WITH
AN OVERARCHING GOAL OF PROMOTING
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE
UTILITY SERVICES FOR EVERYONE. I
WANT TO CONCLUDE BY SAYING THANK
YOU- AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH
MISTER BAKER- SENATOR SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS LET ME START WITH YOU
TODAY. THANK YOU MA'AM
PRESIDENT- GLAD TO BE HERE WITH
YOU AND I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T GET
A CHANCE TO SPEAK LEAD INTO-
THIS THIS HEARING BUT- I'M GLAD
YOU'RE HERE AND- WHAT I LOVE
MOST ABOUT- THIS- POSITION IS
THE TERM PUBLIC- PUBLIC
ADVOCATE'S OFFICE- AS AN
ADVOCATE MYSELF- I KNOW- THAT IT
IS. EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE
AN INDEPENDENT- CONSUMER
ADVOCATE- AT THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION- AND
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MISSION IS
TO ADVOCATE FOR LOWEST POSSIBLE
MONTHLY BILLS. FOR CUSTOMERS OF
CALIFORNIA'S REGULATED.
UTILITIES THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH
SAFETY RELIABILITY AND OUR
STATE'S ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND
I READ THAT BECAUSE SO OFTEN-
PUBLIC ADVOCATES AREN'T WELL
KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC AND- YOUR
RESPONSES- IN IN SOME OF THE
DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SHARED AND I
REALLY APPRECIATED THE
THOROUGHNESS OF YOUR- YOUR
RESPONSES WAS THAT- YOUR TOP
PRIORITIES IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THESE GOALS ARE REALIZED. AND
THAT COMMUNITIES- RATEPAYERS ARE
KEPT AWARE OF ACTIVITIES AND
RECOMMENDATIONS- AND THAT YOU
SEE THIS BEING ACHIEVED BY
PROVIDING MORE TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE AND EDUCATION ON
UTILITY ISSUES THROUGH FACT
SHEETS AND ONE PAGERS- AND- YOU
ALSO TALKED ABOUT DEDICATED
RESOURCES THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT
INFORMATION IS WIDELY
DISSEMINATED INTO THE RIGHT
HANDS- AND THAT A PRIORITY IS TO
BUILD COALITIONS- AT THAT.
MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS- AND
I- I WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT WE
ALSO SHOULD INCLUDE STAKEHOLDERS
IN THOSE COALITIONS BUT- I JUST
WANNA KNOW HOW DO YOU PLAN ON.
ACHIEVING THIS I APPRECIATE IT-
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ONE
PAGERS AND FAX SHEETS. FOR ALL
REPAIRS IN ORDER TO AS
EDUCATIONAL TOOLS- AND I WANT TO
COME BACK TO THAT- BUT HOW DO
YOU PLAN ON ACCOMPLISHING THIS
ALL. WELL SENATOR FIRST I'D LIKE
TO SAY- IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SIT
DOWN AND TALK TO YOU BECAUSE I
THINK THAT YOUR HISTORY AND YOUR
WORK I THINK IT'S THE KIND OF
WORK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
EMULATE- I BEGAN MY CAREER AS A
COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. WAY BACK IN
THE EIGHTIES- AND YOU KNOW
THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT- F.
TODAY. WHAT I WILL SAY IS ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING
RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE INSTITUTED
A PROJECT. TO ACTUALLY- BRING TO
REACH OUT TO- AND TO IDENTIFY
REACH OUT TO AND START TO
DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS. WITH ALL
YOU KNOW AT THE FIRST CAPITALIST
IS ABOUT A HUNDRED COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS. WHAT WE'VE
DONE IS WE WENT THROUGH. A YOU
KNOW A NUMBER OF DATABASES AND
LOOKED AT COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY HAVE HAD
ENERGY AND THEIR- BURKE FOR
BROADBAND FOR. ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES SOMEWHERE IN THEIR
WEBSITES OR WERE DESCRIBED AS
SUCH IN MEDIA. AND HAVE
DEVELOPED A- PROCESS WHERE WE'RE
ACTUALLY GOING OUT THERE AND
SEEKING TO INTERVIEW OR WORK
WITH. TO REACH OUT TO AND REALLY
LISTEN TO THOSE GROUPS AND TRY
TO FIND. WHERE THERE ARE PLACES
WHERE WE COULD BE HELPFUL- TO
THOSE GROUPS IN THEIR MISSIONS
PART AS THEY RELATE TO ENERGY.
BROADBAND AND WATER ISSUES. WE
LIKE TO USE THAT REALLY AS THE
STARTING POINT TO DEVELOP A-
RELATIONSHIP. WHERE YOU KNOW THE
WE ARE AT HE HE WE'RE ACTUALLY
REACHING OUT TO THOSE GROUPS TO.
ELICIT THEIR SUPPORT TO HELP US
DEVELOP OUR POSITIONS. AND THEN
TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE GIVEN YOU
KNOW GIVEN OUR BUDGET EXCEPT OUR
- B. COME A RESOURCE FOR THOSE
GROUPS PARTICULARLY AS IT
RELATES TO ISSUES THAT ARE
BEFORE THE COMMISSION THAT THEY
MAY BE INTERESTED IN. I THINK
THAT'S ONE PART OF THE THING
THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW- AND
YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL YEARS ON WAYS
TO. IMPROVE ON THAT PROCESS
ENGAGE MORE COMMUNITY BASED
GROUPS WORK WITH SOME OF THE-
STATEWIDE COALITIONS AROUND
THESE ISSUE AREAS. AND DO A
BETTER JOB OF- HELPING TO.
REPRESENT PARTICULARLY LOW
INCOME CONSUMERS BEFORE THE
COMMISSION. ABOUT THAT I
APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE THAT AND
IN THE ONE HUNDRED CBO'S I HOPE
WE'RE INCLUDING ECONOMIC JUSTICE
ORGANIZATIONS I THINK. AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER AND EARLIER-
CONFIRMATION- THIS IS A
PARTNERSHIP. THE RATE PAYERS
COULD NOT EXIT- COULD NOT BE
SERVED WITHOUT THE UTILITIES THE
UTILITIES COULD NOT. OPERATE
WITHOUT GOVERNMENT AND I THINK
BEE GEES. THE NATURE OF- ENERGY
WORK OVERALL IS EXTRACTIVE AND
THE ECONOMIC JUSTICE PEACE HELPS
TO PUT RESOURCES INTO THE
COMMUNITY- THAT LIVE BEYOND- THE
ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND SO I
THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT.
SECTOR TO INCLUDE- IN AND IN
APPRECIATE ALSO THE NATURE OF
RELATIONSHIP RIGHT BECAUSE-
THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU LIFT
IT UP OUR EXPERTS IN HOUSEHOLDS-
THE UTILITIES IMPACT DAY TO DAY
LIFE- THAT NO ONE IN THE OTHER
SECTOR WOULD KNOW- AS WELL. AND
IN THE LITTLE BUILDING
RELATIONSHIPS YOU KNOW. THAT YOU
HAVE TO HAVE CAPACITY AND I
NOTICED THAT IN SOME IN YOUR
RESPONSES YOU TALKED ABOUT A
STAFF OF ENGINEERS AND AUDITORS
ECONOMISTS AND SCIENTISTS I'M
CURIOUS HOW MANY COMMUNITY
ORGANIZERS OR FIELD OUTREACH
STAFF. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT-
TEAMS ARE EMPLOYED. SO WE ARE
OFFICE I WHO ARE I WOULD I MEAN
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION-
WE HAVE HIRED OUR FIRST OUTREACH
STAFF PERSON WHO'S FULL TIME-
WORKING IN OUR OFFICE. WE ALSO
HAVE AT LEAST ONE- HAVE TIME
PAID INTERNSHIP PERSON THAT IS
WORKING ON THIS. AND THIS IS WE
ARE JUST DEVELOPING THIS PROGRAM
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WE WILL
USE WHAT WE DETERMINED IN THE
NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. TO SEE IF
THERE'S MORE POSITIONS THAT THAT
WE GET OUR I MEAN I DO WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT. WE'RE A YOU KNOW
WE'RE FUNDED BY THE RATE PAYERS
SAID WE REALLY HAVE TO BE VERY
CAREFUL ON HOW MANY POSITIONS
THAT WE HIRE IN THIS REGARD. AND
IT IS OUR THEORY RIGHT NOW IS
THAT IT COULD BE. EASIER WITH A
RELATIVELY. SMALL NIMBLE STAFF
THAT. WORKS MUCH MORE CLOSELY
WITH COMMUNITY BASED GROUPS AND
I SHOULD SAY- YOU KNOW THAT THAT
YOU WERE LOOKING AT- A BROAD
RANGE OF- OF GROUPS RIGHT NOW IN
THE HUNDRED THAT I SAID WAS JUST
WHAT WE THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH
IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS- BECAUSE-
YOU KNOW IT'S BASICALLY THREE
MEETINGS FACE TO FACE IT'S-
PRETTY. INTENSE SAID SO- ON THAT
YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A LONG WAY
OF SAYING WE'RE- AGAIN OPEN TO
SUGGESTIONS WE WANT TO TRY TO DO
THIS WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE
HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND WE REALLY
WANT TO TRY TO DO IT IN
CONJUNCTION WITH PARTNERS WHO
HAVE MORE EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA
THAN WE DO. AND I APPRECIATE
THAT THAT RESPONSE BUT ONE FULL
TIME IN A IN AN- INTERN- I
HELPED TO ESTABLISH CALIFORNIA'S
FIRST BLACK WORKER CENTER AND WE
HAVE MORE. OUTREACH STAFF IN
THAT VERY SMALL NONPROFIT THEN
YOU HAVE. FOR THE UTILITIES-
COMMISSION AND CERTAINLY FAR FAR
MORE RESOURCES AND SO I DO HOPE
THAT THAT IS SCALED AT A
REALISTIC CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY
DO THE ENGAGEMENT. I AND DIRECT
FEEDBACK AND INPUT. THIS IS A
PARTNERSHIP THAT WE NEED TO
WORK. WE'RE MOVING INTO A NEW
ECONOMY WE'RE MOVING INTO
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND AGAIN THIS
IS A PARTNERSHIP. THAT REQUIRES
ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO BE- IN
CONVERSATION- IN- WELL INFORMED-
AND SHARING STRATEGIES THAT HELP
US REACH REACH OUR GOALS AND
CERTAINLY- ONE. FULL TIME STAFF
IS NOT- IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE
FOR THE LEVEL OF THE WORK SO I
JUST WANT WANT TO SAY I HOPE TO
WORK WITH YOU AND SHARE- SOME
STRATEGIES ON ON THAT END- SOME
OF JUST MY- FINAL QUESTION- DOES
YOUR OFFICE- IN YOUR ROLE
BECAUSE I STILL UNCLEAR HOW YOUR
ROLE RELATES. TO THE DIRECT
ACTION OF THE COMMITTEE BUT
DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO PUT ANY
PRESSURE ON THE UTILITIES. ARE
FURTHER ENGAGE WITH THEIR
CUSTOMERS ABOUT RATES AND
UPCOMING HIKES AND I SAY THAT
BECAUSE I APPRECIATED SOME OF
THE WORK THAT WAS DONE. AROUND
YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THE SOLAR
ISSUE AND ITS IMPACT ON
RATEPAYERS AND- HOW DO WE ENSURE
THAT THERE'S FAIR SHARE AND THAT
PROCESS- BUT WHAT WASN'T CLEAR
IS WHAT ROLE DID THE UTILITIES
HAVE IN ENSURING THAT- RATE
PAYERS AS WELL AS SO SOLAR
ENERGY PRODUCERS- WERE.
ADEQUATELY RESOURCE AND SERVICE
THROUGH THROUGH THROUGH THAT-
THOSE AGREEMENTS THE WHAT. IN
ADDITION TO THE DATA AND LIFTING
UP. THESE CONCERNS WHAT IS THE
ACTUAL AUTHORITY THAT YOU HAVE
TO- TO HELP WITH THE UTILITIES
TO MAKE COURSE CORRECTIONS WHEN
NECESSARY. SO WE HAVE REALLY TO
POWERS- ONE IS WE HAVE DISCOVERY
POWER. THE SAME POWERS THAT THE
COMMISSION HAS BECAUSE WE'RE
PART OF THE COMMISSION SO WE
CAN. ASK FOR- INFORMATION ON
WHAT THE UTILITY HAS DONE TO YOU
KNOW AND THEY SPEND. YOU KNOW
UTILITY MIGHT BE SPENDING FIFTY
MILLION DOLLARS ON. OUTREACH TO
ITS CUSTOMERS. AND SO WE CAN SEE
WE CAN. REQUEST INFORMATION
ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE THAT WAS
SIMILAR TO THE USING IT FOR IS
IT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE.
YOU KNOW WHO WHO- UNLESS. YOU
KNOW ABOUT. ONCE A PUFF PIECE
BUT A YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS
MORE ABOUT HOW GREAT THE UTILITY
IS OR IS IT REALLY IN FOR
IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO
CONSUMERS GET ENOUGH SO WE HAVE
THAT. AND IN THE SECOND PLACE
THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE THE
POWER TO MAKE A CASE TO THE
COMMISSION. AND THE COMMISSION
CAN COMPEL UTILITIES TO.
IMPLEMENT THESE SO IN MANY WAYS-
YOU KNOW WE- STATUTORILY WE ARE
CHARGED WITH REPRESENTING. RATE
PAYERS AND SMALL COMMERCIAL
CUSTOMERS. AND- AND REPRESENTING
THEIR INTERESTS BEFORE THE
COMMISSION. AND AND MAKING
PLEADINGS TO THE COMMISSION.
THAT THE COMMISSION CAN IN A
WILL JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT THEY
MAKE CENTER DON'T MAKE SENSE AND
IF THEY DO GO OUR WAY THEN THAT
WOULD. COMPEL THE UTILITY TO DO
X. Y. OR Z. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT
OUR WALLS IN THIS PARTICULAR
ISSUE. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION IT DID IN AND OUT JUST
A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT IN
THOSE. INSTANCES DO YOU REPORT
THOSE KINDS OF INTERVENTIONS. TO
THE PUBLIC- WHEN THEY ARE- WHEN
THEY HAPPEN AND THEN. JUST
ANOTHER FOLLOW UP I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT- FOR- FOR US TO
THINK ABOUT HOW SHOULD THE
PUBLIC DETERMINE YOUR SUCCESS
RIGHT SO ONE IS COMMUNICATING
THOSE KINDS OF INTERVENTIONS IN
REAL TIME. BUT HOW WOULD YOU-
HOW SHOULD THE PUBLIC THINK
ABOUT YOUR SUCCESS AND BE ABLE
TO MEASURE IT. SO WE INTERVENE
AND WE ENTER I THINK CLOSE TO
EIGHT HUNDRED PLEADINGS EVERY
YEAR- AND WE PRETTY MUCH
INTERVENE IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE
CASE- IN MANY CASES MANY RAPE
CASES PARTICULARLY WITH SOME OF
THE SMALLER PROVIDERS WERE THE
ONLY INTERVENOR IN THOSE. SO WE
DO HAVE A VERY VERY IMPORTANT
FOR ALL THEIR- MY PERSONAL- YOU
KNOW FIVE I BELIEVE THAT IF WE
CAN MAKE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT
TO THE COMMISSION WE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO PERSUADE THE COMMISSION.
AND WE SHOULD BE JUDGED ON OUR
SUCCESS BY HOW OFTEN. YOU KNOW
ANY OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE
ENACTED. IN THE COMMISSION
DECISION AND WE DO TRACK THOSE.
A AND R. YOU KNOW IN OUR ANNUAL
REPORT- AND WE ARE INCREASINGLY.
PUTTING THOSE UP ON OUR WEBSITE-
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE
OUTREACH TO REPAIR SO THAT THEY
KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
WHAT WE DO BUT ALSO SO THEY KNOW
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE
COMMISSION ITSELF ACTUALLY
WORKS. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR
EVERYBODY. I THINK ON THE NET
ENERGY METERING YOU SALAS OUT
THERE IN THE MEDIA REALLY TRYING
TO MAKE OUR CASE TO THE PUBLIC
AS WELL AS TO THE COMMISSION-
AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE OF
THAT IN SOME OF THE MORE HIGH
PROFILE. CASES SUCH AS THE
PUBLIC SERVICE GAS AND ELECTRIC-
RATE CASES BEFORE US RIGHT NOW
OR IN SOME OF THE MORE HIGH
PROFILE WILL MAKE SELF. WE HAVE
MORE WORK TO DO PRESHEAF THAT
AND WILL STAY IN TOUCH ON
OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION
CHANNELS YEAH LOVE TO
COMMUNITIES THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SENATORS SENATOR A CHILLED FOLK
. HELLO MISTER BAKER. WE JUST
SORT OF FOR THE COMMENTS- THAT
THAT I MADE- DURING OUR
CONVERSATION THAT. THE MENTAL
THAT YOU'LL BE WEARING ASSET AS
AN ADVOCATE FOR THE CONSUMERS
IN. FOR CALIFORNIANS AS A WHOLE
THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING
SURE THAT THEY ARE- THEY'RE
PROTECTED IN THAT THERE ARE-
BASICALLY PROTECTED- IN IN. IN
THIS SPACE. SO MY QUESTION HAS
TO DO WITH REGARDS TO PROGRAMS
THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE RATE
PAYERS- THAT ALLOW THEM TO. BE
ABLE TO AFFORD OR PAY FOR THE
UTILITIES AND WAS WONDERING
WHETHER OR NOT. YOU FOLKS-
EVALUATE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS
THESE PROGRAMS TO SEE WHICH ONES
ARE ACTUALLY WORTH- THEIR TIME
AND THE EFFORT AND THE- IN THE
IN THE MONIES. AND WHICH ONES
ARE NOT AND BASED ON THAT IF YOU
HAVE A STANDARD OF ITS VALUE IN
THE SERVICES AND THAT OUR
PRODUCTS AND THEN. MAKING THE-
RECOMMENDATIONS AND CHANGES TO
THAT EFFECT. SO. I WOULD TOO WE
LOOK AT PROGRAM'S REALLY KIND OF
INTO BUCKETS- THERE'S A SET OF
PROGRAMS THAT ARE- YOU KNOW
WHOSE BENEFICIARY- ARE THE
BENEFICIARIES OF WHICH ARE
PREDOMINANTLY. LOW INCOME
RATEPAYERS TO HAVE THE CORRECT
CARE PROGRAM FAIR PROGRAM HIT
ANOTHER NUMBER PROGRAMS LIKE
THOSE. AND YOU KNOW WE REALLY
LOOK AT THOSE ON HOW THEY
BENEFIT THE LOWEST INCOME-
RATEPAYERS. AND THERE ARE SET OF
PROGRAMS THAT WE LOOK AT. YOU
KNOW HOW COST EFFECTIVE THEY
ARE- PROGRAMS LAKES YOU KNOW
WITHIN THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
BUCKETS ARE WITHIN THE- YOU KNOW
THAT. THAT ENERGY METERING IS
PROBABLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONE
AND SO WE'RE WE BASE OUR- MODE
ARE YOU KNOW. OUR FIRST
THRESHOLD IS VISITORS PROGRAM
COST EFFECTIVE BENEFITS COST
EFFECTIVE IT. BASICALLY HAS A
LIMITED IMPACT ON YOU KNOW UPPER
DOWN ON HOW IT IMPACTS RATES.
AND SO THAT AND WE THINK THAT'S
AN IMPORTANT WAY TO LOOK AT
PROGRAMS. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK
YOU COMMENTED VICE CHAIR. AND
THINKING MAN PRETEND. THANK YOU
MISTER BAKER FOR SPENDING TIME
WITH ME YESTERDAY I DID HAVE-
ENJOY OUR CONVERSATION- AND I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY SPEND
TIME WITH YOU BEFORE THE HEARING
TODAY. BUT A FOLLOW UP ON A
COUPLE OF THINGS- YOU MENTIONED
JUST NOW AS THE- I BELIEVE YOU
CALLED IT THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
BASKET AND THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
BECKETT. WITH MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT REPAIRS HAVE INVESTED ABOUT
BILLION DOLLARS ONE BILLION
DOLLARS IN THESE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY BUCKETS- BUT ON THE
FLIP SIDE EVEN THOUGH THAT RATE
PAYERS- WHETHER YOUR- AS-
WEALTHY OR VERY VERY POOR. RATES
HAVE INCREASED. AND RETIRED
BUSINESS SMALLER LARGE RATES
HAVE INCREASED. TO THE TUNE OF
SAID I BELIEVE- IT'S- OVER I
IT'S OVER. TO GET THAT NUMBER
BACK TO YOU AND I BELIEVE IT IS
. 30% HIGHER THAN INFLATION AND
OVER THE LAST THIRTY YEARS- IT'S
GONNA. WITH PGN E. 40% HIGHER
THAN INFLATION SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA EDISON 20% HIGHER
THAN INFLATION IN SAN DIEGO GAS
ELECTRIC ESTY GENIE 70% HIGHER
RESPECTIVELY. CAME AFTER OUR
RATE PAYERS HAVE COME OUT OF
THEIR POCKET. FOR A BILLION
DOLLARS IN EUGENE FISH
EFFICIENCIES. AT ME AS A
BUSINESS PERSON IN THE REAL
WORLD WOULD SAY WHY IS THIS
PROGRAM NOT WORKING I MEAN IF I
MADE AN INVESTMENT OR ANYBODY I
WOULD THINK MADE AN INVESTMENT
OF A BILLION DOLLARS AND THERE
WAS NO RETURN ON THEIR
INVESTMENT AND COST ACTUALLY
WENT UP. WE WOULD QUESTION THE
S. THE- THESE PROGRAMS. CAN CAN
I ANSWER THAT QUESTION BY
STEPPING BACK A LITTLE BIT
ABSOLUTE OKAY ABSOLUTELY ET SO-
YOU KNOW ONE OF THE GREAT
SUCCESSES IN CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN
OUR ABILITY TO- INCREASE
ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY AND REDUCE
THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT WE HAD
THE MUSIC SO THAT'S BEEN A
REALLY BIG SUCCESS- ARE BILLS
HAVE ALSO. BASICALLY TRACKED
INFLATION UNTIL YOU KNOW TWENTY
FOURTEEN OR TWENTY FIFTEEN AND
THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED.
DIVERGING FROM- INFLATION- WE
ARE ALSO FACING A LOT OF COSTS
RIGHT NOW- YOU KNOW I MENTIONED
LEGACY- SOME OF THE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH ROOFTOP SOLAR
PROGRAMS HAS BEEN WELL
DOCUMENTED. OUR WILDFIRE- COSTS
ARE WELL DOCUMENTED THE FACT
THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
BUILD AN AWFUL LOT OF
TRANSMISSION. THAT IS ALSO WELL
DOCUMENTED IN THOSE THOSE COSTS
HAVE BEEN. GROWING I THINK RIGHT
NOW- THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING
AT ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND SEE
YOU KNOW JUST TO MAKE SURE ARE
THESE PROGRAMS THAT RATEPAYERS
SHOULD BE FUNDED. AND YOU KNOW
AGAIN I THINK FOR. NON EQUITY
PROGRAMS LIKE SOME OF THE MARKET
BASED ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS
. THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THAT
REALLY WORK REALLY REALLY WELL
CAN ACTUALLY SAVE RATEPAYERS
MONEY WE SHOULD REALLY BE
FOCUSING IN ON THOSE PROGRAMS.
AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT
PROGRAMS THAT MAY NOT BE
PENCILING OUT FOR THAT MAY BE
DOING DONE OR MAYBE BEING DONE
IN. YOU KNOW THE ENERGY
COMMISSION OR THROUGH THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD- BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. AND SEE IF THERE ARE
WAYS THAT RATE PAYERS DON'T HAVE
TO PAY FOR THOSE PARTICULAR
PROGRAMS. VERY SYMPATHETIC WE DO
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO START
LOOKING FOR THE NICHOLS UNDER
THE YOU KNOW UNDER THE CUSHION-
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT AND ALSO
SHOWS THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE CARING
ABOUT THAT SO. I THINK THE
ISSUES YOU'RE RAISING OR ONES
THAT. WERE WANTING TO LOOK INTO
AND REALLY TRY TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF. THANK YOU. I KNOW
THAT AND WE TALKED YESTERDAY YOU
WERE AND YOUR RESPONSES TO MY
COLLEAGUES. AS CENTER SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS YOU AND- YOUR ADVOCATE IN
YOUR YOUR JOB IS TO BE THE
BULLDOGS A FIGHTER FOR THE
REPAIR. AND I KNOW YOU FOR. THE
POSITION FOR A YEAR RIGHT
APPROXIMATE YEAR- BUT I REALLY
DO HAVE HUGE CONCERNS AND I
BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUES SHARE
THOSE CONCERNS ON A SPEAKING FOR
THEM BUT I BELIEVE THEY SHARE
THOSE CONCERNS. THAT AND OUR
CONSTITUENTS UTILITY COST ARE
GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. NOT ONLY
P. JEANNIE BUT SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA STATE GASES WELL. AND
THEIR BILLING GLITCH PROBLEM
WHERE PEOPLE HAVEN'T GOTTEN
BILLS FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN-
THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME
OUTLANDISH BILL AT THE END OF
THAT SIX MONTH. MAY BE SPREAD
OUT OVER TIME BUT THAT DOESN'T
THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT
THAT THAT NUMBER HAS DOUBLED AND
SOMETIMES TRIPLED IN CASES- SO
IF YOU WERE SAVING. TWO DOLLARS
A MONTH FOR YOUR BILL NOW IT'S
GONNA BE EIGHT HUNDRED TO A
THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH. THAT'S
A LOT OF MONEY TO COME UP WITH
IF YOU WORK IN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY AND YOU MAKE MINIMUM WAGE
OR YOU HAVE A HOUSEHOLD WOULD DO
MINIMUM WAGE- IT'S A LOT OF
MONEY TO COME UP WITH. IF YOU
ARE A PRODUCER AND YOU OPERATE
ON MARGINS TO PRODUCE FOOD. AND
LIKE TOP THREE FOOD PRODUCING
COUNTIES IN THE WORLD THE
DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT. AND
YOU HAVE AND COST ASSOCIATED
WITH ITS LABOR COSTS P. JEANNIE
COSTS. ON YOUR RESOURCES COST.
YOU KNOW EVERYTHING HE GOES BY
CONSIDER FOR CITY WORKER CUT GO
THROUGH LIST. ALL OF THOSE. IN
THE TO ADD ADDED. WHAT WAS IT
AND 23% RATE COSTS THAT YOU
HAVEN'T BUILT INTO THE SELL
PRICE OF YOUR PRODUCT YOUR
COMMODITY TO YOUR CUSTOMER-
WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM.
THE WHERE DO YOU KNOW WHERE DOES
THE MONEY COME FROM FOR BENEFITS
FOR EMPLOYEES OR PAID HOLIDAYS.
IF THESE COSTS CONTINUE TO GO
UP. AND SO I THROW THAT OUT
THERE AND THEN I WANT TO ASK
YOU. LIKE I ASKED YES RAN ASKED
MR REYNOLDS WHAT IS ARIZONA NEW
MEXICO. OUR NEIGHBOR OUR
NEIGHBORING STATES DESERT AREA
MOUNTAIN AREAS COMMUNITY AREAS
WHAT ARE THEY DOING DIFFERENTLY
WHEN WE PAY ALMOST 90% HIGHER.
THEN THEY DO IN ARIZONA. IT
DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WELL I IF
MY THEORY. BUT I WONDER WHAT
YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. SO ARE I
WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION THIS
WAY TO THE COMMISSION SO THAT'S
A VERY GOOD QUESTION I WAS A
COMMISSIONER. OF PUBLIC UTILITY
COMMISSIONER IN COLORADO AND WE
ALSO HAD HAD LOWER RATES THAN.
THAN HIM- BUT I WOULD I WOULD
JUST SAY THIS THERE ARE. YOU
KNOW WE SEE THREE BIG DRIVERS
FOR THE RECENT RATE INCREASES-
YOU KNOW. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE
ROOFTOP SOLAR. PROGRAM HAS BEEN
A VERY BIG COST DRIVER. I THINK
THE COMMISSION IS TAKING A
REALLY BIG STEP TO HELP TO
ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE BUT
THEIR PREVIOUS COSTS THAT ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND YOU
KNOW THAT WE ALSO NEED TO
CONTINUE TO KEEP IN MIND. TWO IS
UNLIKE MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS WE
ARE HAVING WE HAVE MORE ALL
EVERYBODY IN THE WEST HAS
WILDFIRE PROBLEMS I THINK OUR
WILDFIRE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN
WORSE. THE WAY OUR SYSTEM IS
ORGANIZED IS MORE EXPENSIVE AT
LEAST IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
PG&E SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S SO
SPREAD OUT IN. VERY VERY- YOU
KNOW IN ACCESSIBLE AREAS THAT
SERVE RELATIVELY LARGE
POPULATIONS COMPARED TO SOME OF
THOSE OTHER STATES EVEN IN SOME
OF THE HAMLETS- AND THEN THE
THIRD AREA IS WE ARE MOVING
FURTHER AND FASTER THAN MANY OF
OUR NEIGHBORING STATES IN TERMS
OF TRANSITIONING OUR- OUR-
ENERGY SYSTEMS. THOSE COSTS
ACTUALLY HAVEN'T STARTED TO COME
IN AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT WE
CAN DO TO HELP TO HELP TO
AMELIORATE THOSE COSTS OF. I
THINK THAT THOSE THREE THINGS OR
WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. YOU
KNOW. THE BIG INCREASES THAT WE
HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST YOU KNOW
I'D SAY A LITTLE CHART HERE
SINCE TWENTY EIGHTEEN OR SO. AND
ONE TO REALLY PARTICULAR TAKEN
OFF SINCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE- SO
TO ANSWER QUESTION THOSE ARE THE
THINGS THAT I THINK ARE MOST
DIFFERENT. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A
HIGH COST STATE COMPARED TO OUR
NEIGHBORS. YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT
GOING TO CHANGE THAT'S JUST.
WERE A RICHER STATE WERE. YOU
KNOW WERE VERY GEOGRAPHICALLY
SPREAD OUT WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH
EVERY KIND OF POPULATION. IN
EVERY KIND COMMUNITY HERE. BUT
THOSE THREE PIECES ARE SOMETHING
THAT MY OFFICE IS REALLY
COMMITTED TO ADDRESS- I SHOULD
JUST SAY. I SHARE THE CONCERN.
OBVIOUSLY I SHOULD. I THINK THE
- JOB THAT. THAT MY OFFICE HAS
TO DO IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
AND YOU KNOW WE ARE THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN EVERY SINGLE
PROCEEDING- YOU KNOW AND WHO
WILL TAKE APART EVERY SINGLE
UTILITY. APPLICATION AND I THINK
WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB THERE I
THINK WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DO A
BETTER JOB- BUT- DID YOU KNOW.
WHO I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN START
TO. AND THE CURVE ON ELECTRICITY
RATES IN PARTICULAR. IT'S GONNA
TAKE A LOT OF DISCIPLINE IT'S
GOING TAKE A LOT OF FOCUS. ON
AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO TAKE
EXPANDING THE AMOUNT OF
ELECTRIFICATION THAT WE'RE DOING
. BY YOU KNOW INCREASING
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.
AND YOU KNOW ULTIMATELY
INCREASING SPACE CONDITIONING
VIA HE POPS. I APPRECIATE THAT
AND I APPRECIATE THAT WHEN YOU
SAY EXPANDING ENERGY-
ELECTRIFICATION- THERE'S A
SUPPLY ISSUE I MEAN THIRTY MEANT
SIXTY MINS I WAS I THINK MY
COLLEAGUE ON. THE FORMER
SECRETARY OF NATURAL RESOURCES
SITTING NEXT TO ME GOT
PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE
HE ONLY HAD TO WAIT EIGHT
MONTHS. AND I HAVE COMPLAINTS
THAT COME INTO MY OFFICE FOR
THIRTY MINUTES NINETY MINUTES
SIXTY MINUTES IT'S RIDICULOUS-
I'M JOKING I DON'T. ADDRESS A
NUMBER DO YOU A FAVOR BY GIVING
SPOUSE REFORM. AND BUT I EMAILED
. SUPPLIES SOMEONE YOU TALK
ABOUT. THE ELECTRIFICATION AS OF
THE SYSTEM OR EXPANDING
LITIGATION OF THINGS THAT WE USE
EVERY DAY AND THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS- WE ALREADY HAVE
SITUATIONS THAT I MENTIONED
EARLIER WHEN YOU WERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WITH MR REYNOLDS.
THAT AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE
COMPANIES THAT HAVE PURCHASED
ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS YOU KNOW TO
COMPLY WITH EITHER LEASING
REQUIREMENTS IN THE PORT SYSTEMS
OR IN THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY
AND WHEN YOU TALK TO TOYOTA
DEALERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT
IT'S EASY TO SELL. AN ELECTRIC
FORKLIFT LESS MAINTENANCE NO OIL
IN IT THERE'S JUST BENEFITS OF
IT. BUT ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEM
THAT YOU HAVE IS THAT YOU CAN'T
GET A UTILITY COMPANY TO PROVIDE
YOU THE POWER TO CHARGE THOSE SO
YOU FACE FINES WITH THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD FOR USING. SEMI
TRUCK TYPE GENERATORS TO CHARGE
THE ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS THAT
YOU'RE REQUIRED TO USE. NOW TO
ME. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. OKAY
MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE IT MAKES A
LOT OF SENSE AT LEAST REASON
ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS AND THEY CAN.
FORGET THE FACT THAT REUSING GAS
OR DIESEL GENERATORS TO CHARGE
THEM. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
POWER. SO I GUESS HOW DO WE GET
THAT POWER AND- I PERSONALLY FOR
MY CONSTITUENTS I WANT A BULLDOG
IN THAT OFFICE. I WANT SOMEBODY
WHO'S GOING TO FIGHT TO KEEP
THOSE RATES LOW I WANT SOMEBODY
AND I TAKE CALLS FROM PEOPLE
THAT DON'T ANDERSON WORLD WAR
TWO VETERANS ON A FIXED INCOME
SENIORS ON A FIXED INCOME. THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND EVEN WITH
CARROTS THAT ARE GOING UP THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE
UTILITY RATES ARE SO FAR SO FAR
HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER STATE. I
TAKE CALLS FROM RANCHERS WHO ARE
ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON WHERE THEY HAVEN'T HAD A
BILL LIKE I SAID FOR SIX MONTHS
AND NOW. THEY'RE EXPECTING THIS
MASSIVE BILL. THAT WE ARE. THE
THIRD WORLD. AND THERE'S NO
REASON WHY A PUBLIC UTILITY.
CANNOT PROVIDE A BILL TO THEIR
CUSTOMER. ON A MONTHLY BASIS SO
THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BUDGET THAT
YOU OPERATE WITHIN. IN THE I
WANT MY ADVOCATE IN THE PUBLIC
ADVOCATE'S OFFICE TO DO THAT AND
I REALLY FEEL LIKE YESTERDAY
AFTER I TALK TO YOU THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO BE MY BULLDOG. AND WHEN
I HAVE A PROBLEM ON THE CALL YOU
WHEN YOU'RE GOOD TO GO WE'RE
WORKING ON THAT. AND I DO
APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. BUT
THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I
HAVE- WITH THIS BECAUSE I
BELIEVE I AGREE WITH MY
COLLEAGUES ON THE SMALL CUEVAS
ON. THE FACT THAT. YOU PROBABLY.
NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE STAFF I
WOULD YOU KNOW. NOT BEGUN
STAFFING AGENCIES BUT I WOULD
DEFINITELY HELP WITH THE
SITUATION. AND BECAUSE- IF THIS.
ROAD TO GREEN ENERGY IS GOING TO
CONTINUE TO GO. DOWN THIS PATH
THESE COSTS ARE GOING TO GO. WAY
HIGHER. THAN ANYBODY HAS EVER
EVEN DREAMED ABOUT. BECAUSE IF
SOMEBODY GETS A BRILLIANT IDEA
THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK IS A
BRILLIANT IDEA SHUT OFF THESE
GAS PLANTS. THAT ENERGY AND THAT
COST HAS TO COME FROM SOMEPLACE
THERE'S NO OR I DON'T KNOW MAYBE
IS THERE A REPLACEMENT. BUT YOU
ARE AWARE OF. SO THAT DOES GAS
PLANTS SOME PROMISES MADE CAN BE
SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW. SO THE
COUPLE QUESTIONS YES- D. ON THE
FOOTBALL FOR THE LAST QUESTION I
THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR
OFFICE IS TRYING TO DO IS. USE
THE POLICY THAT'S CREATED EITHER
HERE OR IN OTHER AGENCIES TO
KIND OF GUIDE OUR ADVOCACY. ON
THE ISSUE OF GAS PLANTS IN- TO
GENERATE ELECTRICITY- OUR
POSITION. IN GENERAL IS WE- DO.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE REPLACEMENT FOR ANYTHING
BEFORE WE TAKE IT OFF WHEN
THERE'S A BATTERY FOR THE GAS
PLANT. BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE IN
THERE IT'S GONNA SERVE THAT
NEED- WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE
EXISTING FLEET- AS WE ADD MORE
WIND AND SOLAR BATTERIES-
GEOTHERMAL. THAT WILL BE ABLE TO
RUN THOSE LESS AND LESS AND
LESS- SO. I THINK WE'RE VERY
OPTIMISTIC ON THAT FRONT IN THE
LONGER TERM BUT- WE THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO. KEEP THE CAPACITY
ITSELF UNTIL THERE IS A
REPLACEMENT FOR- AT. THE EVEN IF
YOU KNOW ON THE WAY TO ZERO. THE
BIGGER QUESTION I THINK IS- YOU
MENTIONED KIND OF THE BULLDOG
ISSUE I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE ALL
MY LIFE- I YOU KNOW I STARTED
OUT AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER I
WORKED FOR A NUMBER OF
GRASSROOTS ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
A COUPLE CONSUMER GROUPS- AND-
YOU KNOW ONLY AFTER. TWENTY
YEARS OR SO IN THAT IN THOSE AT
YOU KNOW IS DIRECT ADVOCACY DID
I START DOING GOVERNMENT WORK-
AND- YOU KNOW I AM A I BELIEVE
THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL
FOR US TO GET A HANDLE ON COSTS.
THAT WILL BECOME VERY DIFFICULT
TO MEET ANY NUMBER OF GOALS IF
ELECTRICITY GETS TOO EXPENSIVE
OR GASKETS DEFENSIVE OUR-
TELEPHONE SERVICE GETS TOO
EXPENSIVE. AND OUR OFFICE THESE
YOU KNOW STAFFED WITH PEOPLE WHO
HAVE SPENT THEIR WHOLE LIVES-
YOU KNOW. IT'S GOING UP AGAINST-
UTILITIES OR OTHER INTERESTS-
TWO ON BEHALF OF THE RATE PAYER
SO. I'M VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR
ABILITY. TO AND I'M CONFIDENT
ACTUALLY IN THE BILITY THE STATE
AND THE COMMISSION TO ALSO. BE
ABLE TO GET THESE COSTS UNDER
CONTROL- AND I CAN JUST ASSURE
YOU THAT IT IS YOU KNOW. KEEPS
ME UP AT NIGHT SOMETHING I CARE
DEEPLY ABOUT. AND YOU KNOW I'D
I'D LOVE TO HAVE MORE
CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ON. THE
HOOK UP ISSUE BECAUSE I DO
BELIEVE ALSO EVERY UTILITY HAS
AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE- AND
MCKENNA FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE
THOSE PROBLEMS- I THINK PART OF
IT IS THERE'S YOU KNOW WE MAY
NOT HAVE ENOUGH TRAINED
ELECTRICIANS AND SO WE'VE GOT TO
BE THINKING LARGER THAN
NECESSARILY JUST THE CONSUMER
OFFICE BUT- THIS IS THESE ARE
BIG ISSUES THAT THE STATE. CAN
AND WILL ADDRESS ANY AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I
DO KNOW THAT YOU ONLY OPERATE
WITHIN THE POLICY REALMS THAT
YOU'RE A BETTER PASSED OUT OF
THIS BUILDING- YOU MADE A
COMMENT IN YOUR REMARKS BACK TO
ME THAT AND- YOU WANT TO DRESS
IT BEFORE THINGS GET TOO
EXPENSIVE- WHETHER TO CHILE
RATES ARE. THE THREE THINGS THAT
YOU MENTIONED I SUBMIT TO YOU
LISTINGS ARE ALREADY EXPENSIVE
THEY'RE ALREADY TOO EXPENSIVE
AND THEN LIKE I SAID I'M IN
POSSESSION OF THAT READING
CREASE FROM 3% TO. AT TWENTY TWO
OR 23% AN INCREASE BASED ON
VANDALUR AND. DIFFERENT REASONS-
IN BUT I CAN I JUST I APPRECIATE
LIKE I SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
BE THE BULLDOG IN THAT ROOM AND
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING
TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME SO WHEN I
HAVE PROBLEMS- WITH. ON BEHALF
OF MY CONSTITUENTS OR I MEAN.
THE LONG BEACH PORT IS NOT IN MY
DISTRICT BUT THEY ARE CALLING MY
OFFICE FOR HELP. AND THE LEASE
HOLDERS I GUESS THE LEE SEES OF
THE EARLY SEASON OF THAT OF THE
PORT THAT OPERATE IN THAT. AREA-
AGAIN I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID
I DO- I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS.
THAT THE LOOKING. THAT THE
TRANSITION PIECE. IS GOING TO
JUST CONTINUE LEAD THE POLICIES
THAT ARE PASSED IN THIS
BUILDING. AND MAKE YOUR DAY JOB.
VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. BECAUSE
UTILITY RATES BASED ON A NEW P.
I. R. OR P. R. I. AT PACIFIC
RESEARCH INSTITUTE. A SENIOR
FELLOW THAT WAS JUST RELEASE.
SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY SPEAKS TO
CAL AYSO ADDRESSES THOSE ISSUES.
AND SAYS IN THAT NEW RESEARCH
PAPER. ANTICIPATES RATES GOING
UP EXORBITANTLY HIGHER HE HAS
SOME. PERCENTAGE THAT I CANNOT
RECALL OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD
RIGHT NOW. BUT I CAN PROVIDE
THAT DOCUMENT TO YOU. AND IT
WILL BE PROBABLY FOUR TIMES
HIGHER THAN WHAT WE PAY NOW. IS
THE POLICIES THAT WE THAT THIS
BODY IS TRYING TO INSTITUTE.
WITHOUT CHEAP RELIABLE ENERGY AM
I REALIZE THAT TO GET THAT WERE
IMPORTING MORE OIL AND THINGS
LIKE THAT FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES
SO THE TRANSITION OFF OF THE OIL
AND GAS AND CHEAP RELIABLE
ENERGY. IS NOT HAPPENING. EARLY
IN DOLLAR INVESTMENT. SEANERGY
GLOBALLY HAS NOT DROPPED
CONSUMPTION. BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP
RELIABLE ENERGY. AND IT'S A
SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE. GASCON
YOU KNOW GAS PROVIDERS RIGHT AND
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GOSSIPING
TO CALM TALK ABOUT AIR GAS THAT
WE USE. SO GAS PROVIDERS ARE
GETTING MORE MONEY. I FORGET HOW
IT'S BEEN MEASURED BUT THEY'RE
GETTING MORE MONEY BECAUSE THE
SUPPLY YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE
DEMANDING SO MUCH IN THERE SO
LITTLE SUPPLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T.
HARVEST HERE IF THAT MAKES
SENSE. AND I JUST. I SAY ALL
THAT TO SAY ALL THESE PROBLEMS
ARE GOING ON. RICK COSTS ARE
GOING UP INSURANCE COSTS ARE
GOING UP- ALL THOSE THINGS ARE
HAPPENING AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING
HIT FROM EVERY DIFFERENT
DIRECTION FOOD COSTS EGGS ARE
SAFE AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO
IN YOUR PURVIEW. BUT ALL OF
THESE COSTS TOGETHER ARE
AFFECTING THE PEOPLE THAT SEND
ME HERE TO FIGHT FOR THEM AND
I'M TELLING THEM THAT I'M
CONFIRMING YOU TODAY OR AT
VOTING FOR YOUR CONFIRMATION.
BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU
WOULD BE ABLE TO LOG IN THAT YOU
WOULD HELP THESE CONSTITUENTS
WITH EACH THAT LITTLE SLIVER OF
PIE THAT IS IN YOUR PURVIEW. AND
I THINK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR
SENATOR LAYERED. WORLD HARD TO
FOLLOW THAT- AND I WOULD SAY.
I'VE BEEN TOTALLY REMISS BECAUSE
I KEEP WANTING TO KNOW. WHAT THE
AGRICULTURAL OUTPUT IS
RELATIVELY IN MONTEREY SAN
BENITO SANTA CRUZ AND SAN LUIS
OBISPO COUNTY SO I CAN. SEVEN TO
NINE YEARS OKAY SEVENTY NATURE
LET ME SPEAK FOR THE POOR
COUSINS. I THINK THAT THE
INTERESTING THING JUST AS A
COMMENT I HAVE A COUPLE
QUESTIONS IS TO COMMENT IS THAT.
SENATOR GROVE AND I MIGHT NOT
SHARE THE SAME AMOUNT SUS AND
HOW WE GOT THERE. WHAT WE SHARE
THE SAME OUTCOME ON MAKING SURE
THERE'S ENOUGH ELECTRICITY. FOR
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND- ARE
THE CHAIR REFERENCE SENATE BILL
EIGHT FORTY SIX AND LAST YEAR'S
WE WERE DOING. THE CLIMATE
PACKAGE. A LOT OF IT WAS GOALS
BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL WE GOT TO
EIGHT FORTY SIX THAT WE HAVE
OVER A BILLION DOLLARS TO
KICKSTART AND PROVIDE
ELECTRICITY BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY
ARE COMMITTED. TO THAT AND THE
FACTORED IN RESPONSE YOU SAID
YOU FEEL THAT URGENCY- IT'S ONE
THAT I SHARE. TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE DO THAT AND SO- I JUST
APPRECIATE. THE HELP WAS BROUGHT
UP WAS APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
WE HAD A GREAT TALK YOU MOSTLY
SATISFIED ANYTHING THAT WAS A
CONCERN OF MINE AND I THOUGHT I
WOULD ASK ABOUT TO. JUST SORT OF
PUT THEM ON THE RECORD IN
PUBLIC. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY
OF- OF WHAT SENATOR GROWTH WAS
TALKING ABOUT YOU BEING A
BULLDOG BUT MY QUESTION WAS. HOW
DO YOU IN THAT YOU MAY. YOUR
INDEPENDENCE. YOUR INDEPENDENT
MIGHT'VE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE
GOVERNOR. THEY'LL BE A TIME WHEN
THE POWER COMPANIES REALLY CALM
AND TRY TO. CONVINCE YOU THAT
THEY HAVE THE ANSWERS TO
EVERYTHING HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN
YOUR INDEPENDENCE. AND BEING
BAFFLED TO OUR- YEAH I JUST HAVE
TO I THINK I'VE TO POINT TO MY
PAST AS AN EXAMPLE. OF THE
BEFORE ENSURE THAT SENATOR I DID
WANT TO JUST SAY. BEFORE-
COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS CAME OUT
JUST BEFORE COMMISSIONER
REYNOLDS CAME ON. THE COMMISSION
ESTABLISHED A- SEVENTY TWO HOUR
BACKUP PROGRAM FOR. WIRELESS YOU
KNOW A TOWERS SO THE ONLY
SEVENTY TWO HOURS. UNFORTUNATELY
THAT DIDN'T TAKE AFFECT FOR THIS
LAST STORM BUT HOPEFULLY THAT.
WILL BE THERE. FOR THEM BUT BUT
I WOULD JUST SAY- YOU KNOW I
HAVE- ALL MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN-
YOU KNOW AN ACTIVIST- I DID I
WORKED ON COMMUNITY ISSUES- I
WAS ENGAGED IN A LOT OF THE
DEREGULATION FIGHTS IN THE
NINETIES- I WAS YOU KNOW I'VE
BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THESE-
YOU KNOW. IN ALL OF THE ISSUES
AROUND PUBLIC UTILITIES FROM A
CONSUMER PERSPECTIVE- FROM A
CLIMATE PERSPECTIVE. AND IT FOR
OVER THIRTY YEARS AND- DO YOU
KNOW THAT PART OF ME IS KIND OF
VERY VERY DEEPLY INGRAINED- AND
I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR POINTED
ME. BECAUSE OF MY VIEWS YOU KNOW
COULD NOT NOT NOT VICE VERSA.
AND I DO REALLY BELIEVE THE
THINGS THAT I THINK ARE
IMPORTANT AND I'VE WORKED MY
WHOLE LIFE FOR. ARE THREATENED.
IF COSTS GET TOO HIGH- AND SO.
ON ISSUES LIKE CLIMATE. I THINK
THAT WE THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE
SUCCESSFUL. IF WE CAN CREDIBLY
SAY TO THE LARGER PUBLIC THE
STATE TO THE WORLD. WE CAN DO
THIS IN A WAY THAT IS COST
EFFECTIVE FOR YOUR FAMILY. AS
WELL AS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY- IN
THESE YEARS HAVE BEEN PRETTY
TOUGH WE WERE NOT EXPECTING.
MASSIVE WILDFIRES WAY DAY YOU
KNOW THE WAY THEY HIT US THIS
SOON- AND YOU KNOW AND BUT WE'RE
IN A WAR CALIFORNIA AND WILL BE
ABLE TO. GET A HANDLE ON THE
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING
RIGHT NOW AND ADDRESS THOSE ONES
COMING FORWARD SO. PERFECTLY HOW
WILL I GUARANTEE MY INDEPENDENCE
I THINK IT'S A PART OF MY
PERSONAL INTEGRITY. I THINK THE
LEGISLATURE HAS PROVIDED PLENTY
OF TOOLS TO THE OFFICE TO BE
STATUTORILY INDEPENDENT BOTH
FROM THE PC- AND FROM THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE- I THINK WE'RE
IN A POSITION ACTUALLY TO
PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION-
ANYTIME YOU ASK- ON ANY SUBJECT
THAT'S- IN IN OUR AREA. AND I
THINK THAT WE WERE ABLE I MEAN
MY VIEW IS THAT BY. ACTING IN
THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RATE
PAYERS AND THE STATE. THAT WILL
BE ABLE TO ADVANCE EVERYBODY'S
AGENDA OUT REGARDLESS OF YOU
KNOW WHETHER THERE- YOU KNOW AN
EXECUTIVE OFFICER WHETHER
THEY'RE IN THE LEGISLATURE. WHAT
POLITICAL PARTY THEY ARE. THANK
YOU I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
RESPONSE AND I THINK IT SPEAKS
TO. WHAT THE SENATOR RIGHT
BEFORE ME WAS ASKING ABOUT AS
WELL AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION.
IT IS VERY INTERESTING YESTERDAY
BECAUSE USE THIS WORD THAT I
DIDN'T EXPECT TO COME UP IN OUR
MEETING ARE YOUR TALK ABOUT
CREATIVITY. BECAUSE I WAS ASKING
ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA USE THE
OFFICE. TO MEET THE GOALS AND
YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. TALK TO US
ABOUT HOW YOU THINK CREATIVITY
IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING YOU'RE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH ALL
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO
. YOU KNOW I THINK WERE. AS A
STATE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS
THAT NO ONE HAS DONE BEFORE- AND
WE'RE- YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S
DECARBONISING OR WHETHER IT'S
TRYING TO ESTABLISH THIS BROAD
BASED PROSPERITY- YOU KNOW ALL
OF THAT- AND DOING IT ALL AT
ONCE- AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT I
HAVE BOTH IN. OTHER STATES AND
FRANKLY OTHER IN OTHER COUNTRIES
ADDED FOR AMOUNT OF WORK IN
CHINA AND INDIA AROUND
ELECTRICITY SEND. US SOME
POVERTY ISSUES. YOU KNOW I THINK
THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRAW
FROM WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE DOING
. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE
LOOKING AT THESE CHALLENGES AS A
WAY TO SEE ARE THERE WAYS THAT
WE CAN DO BUSINESS DIFFERENTLY.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE ONE EXAMPLE
THAT HAS YOU KNOW THAT. NOT
ENDORSING BUT THE KIND OF THINGS
THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT-
YOU KNOW THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO
HAS CREATED A- ENERGY
INFRASTRUCTURE AUTHORITY- IT.
FOR NOW HAS USED PRIVATE CAPITAL
BUT IT ALSO COULD USE- YOU KNOW
HAVE IS REVENUE BONDS. BUT IT'S
BASICALLY TRYING TO HELP
UTILITIES AND OTHER TRANSMISSION
PROVIDERS GET LOWER COST OF
CAPITAL. TO BE ABLE TO BUILD YOU
KNOW THE PUBLIC PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP. AND THAT MAY OR MAY
NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO
DO HERE IN CALIFORNIA FOR A
WHOLE SET OF REASONS. BUT I
THINK LOOKING AT THOSE EXAMPLES
. AND IDENTIFYING YOU KNOW WHAT
ARE THE LESSONS. YOU KNOW- WHAT
ARE THE COSTS AND WHAT ARE THE
POTENTIAL SAVINGS IF WE CAN DO
THIS. MY OFFICE CAN BE A PLACE
WHERE WE CAN KIND OF PUT SOME OF
THOSE IDEAS OUT THERE TO THE
LEGISLATURE INTO THE
POLICYMAKERS. AND AT LEAST HAVE
DISCUSSIONS ON THOSE THINGS.
RESHAPE THAT VERY MUCH THANK
YOU- IT'S- THEIR SPONSORS TO THE
QUESTION. THANK YOU US SENATOR
AND- MY COLLEAGUES. YOU KNOW
WHILE MY COLLEAGUES ARE TALKING
ABOUT WHAT'S FRUSTRATING AND
HARD TO ANSWER CONSTITUENTS ON
I'LL ADD ONE MORE TO- THAT GOES
ALONG WITH THE CONVERSATION AND
WHAT YOU JUST STARTED TO GIVE
RESPONSE TO- CLEANSE INTO WHAT
I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT. I DON'T
KNOW- WELL. OUR USE OF WATER AND
ENERGY AND AS MORE EFFICIENT AS
WE GET IT DOESN'T LEAD TO A
LOWERING OF RATES. I HAVE THE
HARDEST TIME EXPLAINING TO MY
CONSTITUENTS IN CDO COUNTY WE'VE
DONE MORE RELATED TO WATER.
DIVERSITY IN A DIVERSE PORTFOLIO
OF WATER. I MEAN WE HAVE STORAGE
WE HAVE. DSL WE HAVE YOU KNOW
WE'RE WORKING ON WATER RE USE WE
HAVE AND CONSERVATION
SIGNIFICANT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT
OF GROUND WATER BUT WE HAVE ALL
THOSE OTHER THINGS. AND YET IT
DOESN'T IN FACT THE LESS WATER
WE USE THE MORE IT COSTS. AND
THAT IS A VERY HARD THING TO
EXPLAIN TO MY CONSTITUENTS- I
DON'T KNOW THE ENERGY. I DON'T
KNOW MY STATS ON MY COUNTY
RELATED TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY AS
WELL AS I DO WATER. BUT- SAME
THING R. L. A. OVER PORTS
OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW ALL OF THOSE
COSTS ARE CAPITAL COSTS AND
FIXED COSTS WILDFIRE MITIGATION
RELIABILITY INVESTMENTS CAPITAL
EXPENSES ENERGY EFFICIENCY ARE
AGGRESSIVE. CLIMATE GOALS. NET
METERING AROUND SOLAR ALTHOUGH
THE PUC'S CERTAINLY TRIED TO
ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND THAT HAS
NOT GONE OVER VERY WELL.
OBVIOUSLY WHICH SPEAKS TO WHY
THESE ARE HARD SOLUTIONS TO GET
TO BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO
END UP PAYING MORE- BUT- HE AND
YOU START TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION. IN TERMS OF THE
QUESTION THE L. A. O. ASK IS
SHOULD THE STATE CONSIDER TAKING
A DIFFERENT APPROACH REGARDING
WHICH COSTS ARE FIXED. AND WHICH
RELATE TO HOW MUCH ENERGY. AND
OR WATER I HOUSEHOLD USES TO
AVOID POTENTIALLY DIS
INCENTIVIZING FRANKLY- OUR
DESIRE TO EVEN DO ANY
CONSERVATION SO. I THINK YOU
WERE ALONG THOSE LINES WHEN YOU
RESPONDED TO SENATOR LAYER
TOWARDS THE END BUT IN THE
MEANTIME. I THINK- IN THE
MEANTIME OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE
NOT FEELING VERY SUPPORTED. AND
I DO THINK THE SENSE OF URGENCY
I MEAN WE'VE HAD EVERY
CATASTROPHE IMAGINABLE NOT JUST
A PANDEMIC THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING
TO DO WITH. BUT THE IMPACTS OF.
FIRES AND- THAT AFFECT OUR
ENERGY RELIABILITY- OUR WATER
SUSTAINABILITY ALL OF THOSE
THINGS- FRIEND AND WE REALLY ARE
COMMITTED- TO SOME OF THOSE
AGGRESSIVE GOALS. BUT IN SOME
RESPECTS IT ALMOST SEEMS WE NEED
TO BE TALKING MORE ABOUT. SOME
OF THE EXAMPLES YOU JUST GAVE-
WHETHER IT'S PALATABLE HERE OR
NOT WE AT LEAST NEED TO HAVE
THOSE ISSUES PUT BEFORE US AS
POLICY MAKERS TO DETERMINE- IN
THE ADMINISTRATION HOW WE'RE
GONNA. APPROACH THOSE THINGS
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO
RESPOND. AND- YOU KNOW THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN. ALL OF THE
ENTITIES THAT IMPACT RATEPAYERS-
WHAT THE ENERGY COMMISSION DOES
I SAID IT IN THE LAST HEARING
WHAT THE ENERGY COMMISSION DOES
COMPARED TO WHAT THE P. YOU SEE
DOES CAL AYE SO- CARB. ALL OF
THOSE ENTITIES ARE WORKING VERY
HARD AND HAVE LOTS OF INCREDIBLE
. WORK PLANS AND ANALYSIS BUT
IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO POINT
WHERE WE NEED TO GO TO IMPACT
THE ABSOLUTE CHANGE THAT WE NEED
TO. AND IF WE'RE GONNA BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE AND I THINK WE ARE.
YOU KNOW- I ALWAYS WANT TO BE
ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO SOMEONE WHY I
SUPPORTED SOMETHING AND WHAT IT
MEANS AND WHAT THEY GET OUT OF
IT. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST VERY
HARD TO DO AND WE ARE COUNTING
ON. YOU FRANKLY. I THINK YOU'VE
JUST HAD THE WEIGHT OF AT LEAST
ONLY FIVE SENATORS PUT UPON YOU
BUT- IT'S REAL IN AND WE'RE
FEELING IT VERY DIRECTLY EVERY
SINGLE DAY. AND- YOU KNOW IT
IT'S GREAT THAT WE SPEND
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. ON ON A LOT
OF THESE PROGRAMS WHICH ARE
GOING TO BE HELPFUL BUT AT WHAT
POINT DO PEOPLE START TO FEEL IT
TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM KERN- IT
ANY RATE I DON'T REALLY HAVE A
QUESTION THAT BECAUSE I THINK
YOU WERE. YOU WERE YOU WERE YOU
WERE TRYING TO RESPOND TO US IN
THOSE QUESTIONS BUT I THINK
THESE ARE. SO IF YOU HAVE
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT WE NEED
TO BE LOOKING AT WE EXPECT YOU
SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE THOSE TO
US THE LEGISLATURE. OR AT LEAST
LET US KNOW MORE REALLY WRONG-
AS WE LEGISLATE AND SO I THINK
THAT WOULD BE OUR HOPE. I WOULD
JUST OFFER UP I BELIEVE THAT THE
REACH TEAM THAT WE HAVE AT THE
PUBLIC ADVOCATE'S OFFICE
RELEASED THE BEST IN THE STATE-
I ALSO ALL THE OTHER TEAMS ARE
REALLY EXCELLENT AS WELL. BUT IF
YOU EVER WANT ANY INFORMATION ON
HAND HOW ANY PROPOSAL MAY IMPACT
RATES. WHERE THEY ARE- FOR THAT
WE'D LIKE TO BE POSTING MORE OF
THIS ON OUR GREAT TRACKERS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT ON OUR- ON OUR
WEBSITE- I WOULD JUST SAY. WE
SEE OUR ROLE WITHIN THE-
CONFINES OF THE POLICY THAT SET
BY THE STATE. WE WANT TO DRIVE
TOWARDS THE LOWEST- RATE AND THE
BEST LOWEST COST AND THE BEST
DEAL FOR THE RATE PAYERS- SO.
WE'RE YOU KNOW WEEK WE ALSO. YOU
KNOW ANYTIME YOU HAVE ANYTHING
THAT YOU NEED FROM US OR ANY
CRITICISM OF US ANYWAYS THAT WE
COULD DO BETTER. FOR ALL YEARS
ON THAT I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO
THINK IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL
WALKING A FINE THAT OUR EFFORTS
ON CONSERVATION ARE GOING TO
ACTUALLY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
STOP. BECAUSE IT'S LIKE IF THEY
FEEL LIKE IF I'M GONNA PAY MORE
NOW AND I'M USING LESS. WHY
SHOULD I TRY UNLESS OF COURSE
YOU KNOW. OBVIOUSLY WERE IT MANY
PEOPLE ARE WEDDED TO THE FACT OF
CONSERVATION FOR OUR PLANET AND
THOSE VALUES. BUT YOU KNOW SOME
PEOPLE JUST CAN'T- THEY THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHY IT'S
IMPACTING THEM THE WAY THEY ARE
WHEN THEY TRY SO HARD- SO I
APPRECIATE THAT AND WE WILL CALL
ON YOU. THE ACT. AND WATER IS
ONE MEETING AT THE TALK ABOUT
THAT MUCH BUT WE HAD THERE'S A
LOT OF. THAT WE WILL BUT WE
WON'T GO BACK AROUND- BUT I
THINK MY COLLEAGUES ARE ALL
QUITE FAMILIAR WITH WITH THOSE
ISSUES BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO DEAL
WITH THEM AS WELL- I'M NOT GONNA
GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING
HERE OBVIOUSLY. I'M GOING TO
START AGAIN IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED RIGHT HERE FOR WE ARE.
AND ASK FOLKS WHO WANT TO COME
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. OF DIRECTOR
BAKER TO PLEASE COME UP. AGAIN
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION THAT YOU
REPRESENT. AND YOUR POSITION OF
SUPPORT. WELCOME BACK. GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
JOHN WHITE WITH THE CENTER FOR
ENERGY EFFICIENCY RENEWABLE
TECHNOLOGY I APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S HEARING TODAY A LOT
OF VERY GOOD QUESTIONS LOTS OF
IMPORTANT ISSUES. OF I COULDN'T
BE HAPPIER TO BE HERE TO SUPPORT
MY FRIEND MATT I THINK HE'S
GOING TO BE TERRIFIC IN THE JOB
AND CREATIVITY IS GOING TO BE A
BIG PART OF WHAT HE BRINGS ALONG
WITH HIS PASSION AND HIS
DEDICATION. TO ASTRONOMICAL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT.
WITNESS WELCOME. I'M BILL JULIAN
I'M RETIRED LEGISLATIVE AND CPUC
STAFF FOR. OF ALL THESE ISSUES
FOR MANY YEARS I'M HERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT MISTER BAKER. I
JUST WANNA SAY SENATOR WROTE I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR- A
CHARACTERIZATION OF A BULLDOG
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN
THE STATE WERE IN DEEP. RUN DEEP
STUFF AND- THAT'S WHAT WE NEED A
BREAK APPOINTMENT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK VERY
MUCH MADAM CHAIRMAN IS DAN
JACOBSON- INSTRUCTION. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU SO MUCH OTHER PEOPLE
IN SUPPORT. OKAY MISTER
MODERATOR WE'RE GONNA COME BACK
TO YOU- AND ASK FOR YOU TO T. OF
FOLKS WHO MAY BE A PART OF THE
TELECONFERENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK
IN FAVOR. AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO
PUT UP THAT NUMBER. IT'S.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. SEVEN THREE SIX TWO EIGHT
THREE FOUR. WELCOME BACK
MODERATOR. IN THE PROCESS OF
SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO. AND WE'LL
GO TO LINE TWELVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I BELIEVE THAT'S MADE
THIS IS VICTORIA AROUND AGAIN
WITH AN RDC NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU MISS FROM NEXT
WITNESS. THE MANAGER HAVE NO ONE
ELSE CAN QUEUE AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH BE BACK WITH
YOU IN A MINUTE. LET ME OFFER
ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE IN THE ROOM
WHO WANTS TO REGISTER IN
OPPOSITION TO DIRECTOR BAKER.
OKAY SEEING NO ONE APPROACHED
THE MICROPHONE- MISTER MODERATOR
WE'RE BACK WITH YOU FOR ANYONE
WHO MIGHT WISH TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. AND IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. THE MANAGER WE HAVE
KNOWN IN QUEUE AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH WE WILL TALK
WITH YOU AGAIN A BIT LATER- LET
ME BRING THIS BACK TO MY
COLLEAGUES AND ASK FOR A MOTION
. THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR-
THE MOTION IS BEFORE US MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
LAYERED LAYERED I WOULD FILL A
BOOK. FOR A BIT I SMALL WOULD
CRITICIZE OR WOULD CRITICIZED
GROWTH HIGH GROWTH I CAN FIND A
CONCISE. FIVE TWO ZERO
CONGRATULATIONS AND WE WILL MOVE
YOUR CONFIRMATION ON TO THE
SENATE AS A WHOLE BODY AND I HAD
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY WE
REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU
. AND WITHOUT- AND- YOU WERE A-
OF THE BENEFIT OF OUR COURT
REPORTER WELL AND FOR ALL OF US
ACTUALLY- WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A
FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE WILL BE
RIGHT BACK WITH YOU.
I WILL GO AHEAD- AND GET STARTED
. HI AN LA LET ME INVITE THE
NEXT- THE NEXT SEVERAL FOLKS WHO
WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE HER TO
MINUTE COME ON UP AND GET
SITUATED AND THEN I'LL GET US
BACK IN IN ORDER. OKAY LET ME-
THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR
INCREDIBLE PATIENCE WE
APPRECIATED VERY MUCH AND NEXT
WE HAVE MEMBERS- FOR THE BOARD
OF ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY- THREE
INDIVIDUALS- OF IT SHUSHA BY TIA
AND PLEASE CORRECT ME WHEN I GET
IT WRONG JEAN RIZZO AND ALEXIS
STRAUSS HACKER ARE THREE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WITH US
TODAY. AND I WANT TO WELCOME
EACH OF YOU AND- WE WILL START
WITH YOU- A SPOT TIA AND ASK YOU
TO- THE KNOWLEDGE ANYONE YOU
WANT- MAKE COMMENTS OPENING
COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN
THE LINE AND WE'LL LET EACH OF
YOU DO THAT AND THEN WE WILL
COME BACK HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS IN THE FIRST QUESTION
OF U. S. I THINK I MASSACRED
YOUR NAME AND I'M REALLY SORRY
SO WELCOME. YOU ACTUALLY DID A
GREAT JOB ALL RIGHT YOU ARE VERY
KIND. A GOOD AFTERNOON OF MADAM
CHAIRS SENATE DOES- NOT IT'S A
GREAT HONOR TO BE HERE IN FRONT
OF YOU TODAY. AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO SHARING MORE ABOUT OUR WORK
WITH YOU I WANT TO FIRST
ACKNOWLEDGE MY HUSBAND WAS IN
THE AUDIENCE I JEFF IDEA AND MY
TWO LITTLE BOYS WHO ARE IN
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND DOLLARS
CHOOSING AS ON NOW WE'RE TRULY.
AFTER SPENDING ABOUT A DECADE
WITHIN PUBLIC SERVICE WITH US IN
GOING TO SOME OF THE SCHOOL.
THIS IS VICKY REDUCING THE
IMPACTS OF TOXIC CHEMICALS IN
COMMUNITIES WORKERS AND THE
ENVIRONMENT- I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO. LOW AND
STRATEGIC SKILLS WITHIN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR ON. THE SINCE MY
APPOINTMENT TO THIS BOARD LAST
FEBRUARY I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING
SCIENCE BASED DECISION MAKING.
TO MY WORK AS A BOARD.
SPECIFICALLY I'VE BEEN WORKING
ON ADVANCING THE BOARD'S
OPERATING PLAN. PERFORMANCE
METRICS HAZARDOUS WASTE
MANAGEMENT PLAN FEE STRUCTURE
AMONG OTHER TOPICS. A LOT LIKE I
SAID I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING
MORE. ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES
ABOUT OUR WORK AT I WELCOME ANY
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU- MADAM
CHAIR AND SENATORS IT REALLY IS
AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY. A
WITH MY FELLOW BOARD OF
ENVIRONMENTAL- SAFETY MEMBERS
ALEXIS HACKER AND SWITCHMAN
BHATIA. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION OF MY
NOMINATION IS CHAIR OF THIS
BOARD. HERE WITH ME TODAY ARE MY
WIFE AND CO PLAINTIFF IN THE
CALIFORNIA MARRIAGE CASE DR
POLLY COOPER. AS WELL AS FRIENDS
AND COLLEAGUES MY SON WHO'S JUST
ABOUT TO GET HIS PHD IN CLINICAL
PSYCHOLOGY IS. WATCHING THIS
REMOTELY FROM ARIZONA. THERE ARE
TWO BOARD MEMBERS MEMBER GOMEZ
GEORGETTE GOMEZ APPOINTED BY
MADAME PRO TEM. AND LIZETTE RUIZ
APPOINTED BY THE ASSEMBLY
SPEAKER RUN DOWN BOTH OF WHOM
ARE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARE
WITH US REMOTELY. THIS IS A
CAPSTONE TO MY CAREERS AS A
NURSE BUSINESS OWNER
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVOCATE.
BREAST CANCER ADVOCATE- SO I'VE
GOT A- BAD CAREER WHICH- BRINGS
ME I THINK TO THIS POINT OF
PRIVILEGE TO LEAD THIS BOARD. TO
FULFILL ITS MISSION TO
EFFECTIVELY OVERSEE THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF DTS SEE
REFORMS THAT WERE SET FORTH IN
ONE FIFTY EIGHT. WE'RE
PASSIONATE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE PUBLIC AS WE
WORK TO REBUILD TRUST AND ENSURE
THAT THE MOST VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES ARE PROTECTED. THE
HISTORIC TOXIC TRESPASS THAT
OCCURRED IN OUR STATE OVER
DECADES BOTH FILMS TO
INDIVIDUALS AND TRIBAL LANDS IN
CALIFORNIA REQUIRE THAT WE
DELIVER ON THAT PROMISE OF
REFORM. I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS
AND RECOMMENDATIONS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE REDHEAD
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
SENATORS I'M ALEXIS STRAUSS
HACKER SINCE BEING APPOINTED
LAST FEBRUARY MY FOR COLLEAGUES
AND I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY
TOGETHER TO CONVENE PUBLIC
LOCATIONS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS
PUBLIC HEARINGS IN VARIOUS
LOCATIONS. AND MEET WITH MANY
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITH A
KEEN FOCUS ON UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES. AS VICE CHAIR OF
THE BOARD'S I WORK CLOSELY WITH
CHAIR RIZZO. TO SHAPE OUR
BOARD'S OPERATIONS AND PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT I BELIEVE IN BRINGING
EFFICIENCY TRANSPARENCY AND
EFFECTIVENESS TO EVERY ASPECT OF
OUR PUBLIC SERVICE. I'VE BEEN
WORKING WITH BOARD MEMBER
RELEASED TO PREPARE A NEW
HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITY PERMIT
APPEAL REGULATION AS MANDATED BY
S. B. ONE FIFTY EIGHT. AND I'M
OPTIMISTIC WILL SOON BE READY TO
SUBMIT OUR EMERGENCY RULE. AGAIN
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY
NOMINATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR LAYERED LET ME ASK YOU
TO KICK OFF THIS ROUND OF
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THANK YOU
VERY MUCH IN LINE- I MET WITH
YOU ALL TOGETHER AND WE ARE.
CONSIDERING YOU'RE ALL TOGETHER
AND SOMETIMES WE WORK HARD THAT
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE HEARING
TAKES THREE TIMES AS LONG SO
WELL TRY TO FIGURE OUT. HOW TO
DO THIS IN A IN A GOOD WAY. AND
TO THE CHAIR CONGRATULATIONS ON
YOUR- YOUR HISTORIC MOMENT SOME
OF US ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR SO-
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT- LET ME
JUST ASK ONE QUESTION THAT I
TALKED ABOUT WITH ALL THREE OF
YOU. WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT HAS
REAL CHALLENGES. AND THIS BOARD
WAS ESTABLISHED BY LEGISLATION
TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND TRY TO
HELP WITH THE ISSUES GOING ON IN
THE DEPARTMENT. HOW DO YOU DO
THAT- AS A NEWLY CONSTITUTED
BOARD FACING THOSE ISSUES WITH
THE DEPARTMENT. HOW DO YOU
APPROACH IT AND HOW ARE YOU SURE
THERE'S GOING TO BE OUT COMES.
THEN IT MAY BE ALL ALL DRESSED
UP TO THE CHAIR AND THEN WHAT
THE OTHER TWO COMMA. I'M SORRY
THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE
CHAIR SUPPOSED TO DO BUT LET ME
START BY SAYING KALRA SENATOR
THANK YOU AND IN FACT YOU KNOW
IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD
MULTIPLE- FOLKS BEFORE US AT THE
SAME TIME WE'RE- I AM OUT OF
PRACTICE. SO I THINK THE GOOD A
SENATOR FOR YOU DIRECT YOUR
QUESTION TO WHOM YOU WANT TO IF
YOU WANT ALL THREE JUST GET THE
FIRST. PERSON STARTED THEY'LL GO
FROM THERE SO SENATOR THANK YOU
A TEAR WON'T GO RIGHT AHEAD.
WELL IT'S LIKE BEEN DRINKING
FROM A FIRE HOSE SINCE LAST
FEBRUARY I WILL SAY THAT TO ON
BOARD AND TO. BECOME DEEPLY
ENGAGED IN THE WORK OF THE TNC
ITSELF SO OUR FIRST TASK WAS TO
LEARN EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING
ON IN THE DEPARTMENT AND MORE
BROADLY- THAT CALLIE PA AND IT
WHAT THE INTERSEX ARE. AND TO
HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY THEIR
PERCEPTIONS OF HOW DTC IS
PERFORMING SO WE'VE HAD NOW
EIGHT OR NINE- BOARD MEETINGS IN
DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE
STATE FEDERAL OPEN WITH A LOT OF
DIALOGUE AND A LOT OF PUBLIC
DISCUSSION. SO THAT WE'RE
LEARNING FROM THE COMMUNITY WHAT
THEIR CONCERNS ARE WE'RE
LEARNING FROM D. TO SEE WHAT
THEIR CHALLENGES ARE. AND SO
CREATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT'S THAT'S START UP MODE IS
WHAT WE WERE IN FOR THE FIRST
SEVERAL MONTHS. AND WE'RE
STARTING UP THIS BOARD SO.
UNDERSTANDING THE EXPERTISE OF
EACH BOARD MEMBER FOR ME WAS
IMPERATIVE WHO ARE YOU WHAT DO
YOU BRING WHAT IS THE BEST
COMMITTEE FOR YOU TO CHAIR. OUR
TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT WITH US
TODAY FOR EXAMPLE OR THE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SUB
COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD. OF THE
ROOM SO EACH BOARD MEMBERS
ASSIGNED IN THE AREA TO DEEPLY
FOCUS ON TO LEARN ABOUT. TO
ENGAGE WITH THE DETAILS SEE
STAFF TO ISSUE REPORTS OF EVERY
BOARD MEETING SO I THINK OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. HAS SERVED
US WELL IT'S AND WE'VE HIRED OR
EXECUTIVE OFFICER SWATI SHARMA
WHO'S HERE TODAY- WHO IS
EXCELLENT AT HOLDING US ALL
ACCOUNTABLE. BECAUSE WE ALSO
OPERATE WITHIN BAGLEY KEENE. SO
IT MEANS THERE'S A DIVIDE AND
CONQUER SORT OF AN APPROACH TO
IT YOU HEARD ALEXIS SPEAK OF THE
SUBCOMMITTEES THAT SHE OWNS. AND
THERE ARE ONES THAT SWOOSH
MEADOWS AND THEN WE COME
TOGETHER IN OPEN BOARD MEETING
SO WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS.
OUT LOUD IN PUBLIC AND I THINK
THAT HAS SERVED US AMAZINGLY
WELL AND THEN FOR ME ASK YOU A
FOLLOW UP. WHICH IS YOU SAID
AREAS. OR SIGNED THAT'S A POLICY
C. AREA NOT A G. AREA RIGHT. SAY
THAT AGAIN YOU SAID THAT ARE.
WAS TO AN AREA THAT'S CORRECT A
POLICY AREA NOT A GEOGRAPHIC NO
NOT A GEOGRAPHIC AREA BUT THERE
ARE FOR EXAMPLE LOSER LOUISE'S
IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND SHE
HELPED US SET UP THE SOUTHEAST
L. A. TOUR THAT WE WERE ON-
GEORGETTE GOMEZ'S FROM SAN DIEGO
AND SHE'S WORKING WITH US AS WE
GO DOWN THERE- ALEXIS HAS
TREMENDOUS EXPERIENCE OUT IN-
SENATOR GROVES AREA WHEN WE WENT
OUT TO BUTTONWILLOW WHEN WE WENT
OUT TO CATTLEMEN. SO WE'RE
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
EXPERTISE AND THE GEOGRAPHY OF
EACH OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS OF BUT
ALSO- IT IS POLICY AREA. AND
SPECIFICALLY THE MANDATES AND
ONE FIFTY EIGHT WE'VE TAKEN
EVERY MANDATE WE MAKE SURE THAT
SOMEBODY'S IN CHARGE OF IT AND
BRINGS IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND-
I THINK- WHEN I TALK TO YOU. THE
THREE OF YOU YOU SAID THAT THERE
WERE SEVENTY PARTICULAR
HAZARDOUS SITES THAT YOU WERE
DEALING WITH. AND DO YOU FIND
THAT. ED I BELIEVE. THE REASON
YOUR CONSTITUTED THIS BECAUSE
THE DEPARTMENT WASN'T TOTALLY
RESPONDING. IN IN IN THE ANSWER
TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS IT
BASICALLY THAT. BY HAVING
HEARINGS IN DIFFERENT PLACES
WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED
IN DIFFERENT ONCE OF THE SEVENTY
SITES COME AND TESTIFY. THAT'S
PUTTING IT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC
AND PRIORITIZING IT AND CAUSING
FOR ACTION IN A WAY THAT WASN'T
HAPPENING WITHOUT THE BOARD IS
THAT SORT OF THING I BELIEVE SO
I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT
ADMINISTRATION A D. T. S. C.
WELCOME TO REFORM. AND WE'RE
WERE ESTABLISHING A PATH TOWARD
AT THE FUNDING THAT CAME WITH
ONE FIFTY EIGHT STARTING IN
JULY. PROVIDED MUCH THE
RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO
IMPLEMENT IT BUT OUR FOCUS IN
THOSE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS AND ARE.
QUESTIONS OF THE DTC TEAM MS HAS
JUST ALL. THAT SO WE'RE IN A-
TO- THE LAST FOUR MEETING. WE
EXECUTED ON ONE OF THE ONE FIFTY
EIGHT MANDATES WHICH WAS TO
APPROVE THE DIRECTOR'S
PRIORITIES. AND THAT WAS DONE IN
PUBLIC WITH PUBLIC COMMENT WITH
BOARD DISCUSSION AND WE ACTUALLY
HAD A TREMENDOUS EXPERIENCE. OF
OUR INFLUENCE ON WHAT DROVE THE
PRIORITIES AND THE
RESPONSIVENESS OF THE DIRECTOR
AND THE FORWARD THINKING THAT
SHE HAS ABOUT THE PRIORITIES FOR
THIS NEXT YEAR. SO WE'RE REALLY
WE NOW HAVE THAT DOCUMENT TO
HOLD THE T. S. C. ACCOUNTABLE
AND MAYBE. I TOLD YOU THAT I
DON'T ASK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT
BUT IF THE DOOR OPEN DIED WALK
THROUGH IT SO- IT OCCURS TO ME
THAT WHEN. THE MAJOR REFORMS AND
RESTRUCTURING OF THE STATE PARKS
DEPARTMENT WAS DONE. THERE WAS A
WEBSITE WHERE THE EMPLOYEES
COULD INDIVIDUALLY WHYY AND
CONFIDENTIAL WAY ON WHAT THEY
THOUGHT WERE ISSUES AND IS THERE
ANY SIMILAR PROCESS WITH THE
DEPARTMENT HERE THERE IS AND
IT'S OUR OWN BOOTS PROGRAM SO S.
B. ONE FIFTY EIGHT. CREATED IT
REAP REFERENCE IN OFFICE ON
BUDGETS WE HAVE A STAFF PERSON.
WHO'S BEEN HIRED WHO IS THE ON
BOARD TO RECEIVES QUESTIONS
CONCERNS COMPLAINTS ISSUE. AREAS
THAT THEY WANT THE BOARD TO
ADDRESS WE'VE HAD OVER EIGHTY
COMMENTS SOME OF THEM FROM
INTERNAL STAFF OTHERS FROM
STAKEHOLDERS- OF COMMUNITY
MEMBERS REGULATED BUSINESSES-
THAT HAVE RESPONDED TO THAT SO
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF.
UNDERSTANDING BETTER. WHAT THE
CONCERNS ARE BASED ON WHAT COMES
INTO THE ON BOTH ENDS AND
ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS. IS
THAT WHEN YOU START SOMETHING
NEW IS SORT OF SET ASIDE OR
START TO PROCESSES AND SOME
THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN
THE BILL ARE PUSHED OFF. SO
YOU'RE DOING THE APPEAL
PROCESSES AND SOME OF THE OTHER
PROCESSES AND THERE MIGHT BE
SOME APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
READY TO HEAR IT HOW DO YOU
EXPEDITED SO SOMEBODY DOESN'T
LOSE TIME BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF
YOUR PROGRAM. TO ANSWER THAT.
THE LEGISLATION GAVE US
EMERGENCY RULEMAKING AUTHORITY
AND WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WITH MY
COLLEAGUE LIZ RUIZ LAST JULY
WE'VE HAD OVER FIVE INFORMAL
PUBLIC WORKSHOPS WHICH WERE
REALLY WELL ATTENDED. BY BOTH
COMMUNITIES. NGOS REGULATED
BUSINESSES WHO GAVE US
SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO SHAPE A
BETTER APPEALS PROCESS GOING
FORWARD WE ARE ALMOST THERE WE
HAVE A BOARD MEETING IN MARCH IN
SAN DIEGO. I PERSONALLY I'M
HOPEFUL THAT THAT WOULD BE THE
POINT AT WHICH WE HAVE
SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATED TO- A
DRAFT HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITY
PERMITTED PEOPLE PROCESS AND
THAT IF THE BOARD WERE TO
ENDORSE THAT WE COULD GO
FORWARD. TO AWAY L. AND THE
SECRETARY OF STATE IN THOSE RAGS
COULD TAKE EFFECT BY EARLY APRIL
WE HAVE FOUR STAFF ONE OF WHOM
IS OUR BOARD ATTORNEY AND HE
WOULD BE APPROACHING THE TO
FACILITIES. THAT HAD LAST YEAR
FILED AN APPEAL TO THEIR DGSE
ISSUED PERMITS. AND IF THEY WERE
TO REFILE WE WOULD BE PROMPTLY
IN THE BUSINESS OF HEARING THOSE
TWO APPEALS ALL IN A PUBLIC
FORUM SO YOU'RE REALLY SENSITIVE
TO THIS IN A WAY THAT SOMEBODY
IS NOT GOING TO BE DISADVANTAGED
BY THE FACT THAT. THIS WAS BEING
CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW. THE TWO
FACILITIES THAT HAVE APPEALED
MIGHT OF OUR THEIR NAMES PUBLIC
THEY ARE THEY ARE AND THEY MAY
FEEL THEY'RE NOT CERTAIN WHEN WE
WILL BE READY TO HEAR THEIR
APPEALS. BUT I FEEL THAT BY THE
PROCESS THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE
DESIGNED. AND HOW WE- MAKE SOME
FINAL ADJUSTMENTS AT THE
DIRECTION OF OUR BOARD. AND I'M
CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL BE
HEARING APPEALS SOON THEREAFTER.
AND I THINK KEY TO THAT WAS THE
LEGISLATURE GIVING US THE
EMERGENCY RULEMAKING AUTHORITY
THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN
TERMS OF GETTING THESE RUN JUST
KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE
OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE LAW AND
SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS
THERE'S ALWAYS THE SON.
ANTICIPATED TIMES AND- IF YOU'RE
ONE OF THOSE TWO PEOPLE OR
OTHERS TO TURN LINE. THEY'RE
LOOKING AT THAT WITH THE DRAWN
TO STARS SO JUSTICE YOU ARE.
MOVING THAT I THINK THAT'S A
CONCERN AND I JUST WOULD ADD TO
THAT THAT. ONE OF THEM IS
LIGHTING RESOURCES AND THEY'RE
APPEALING THEIR OWN PERMIT IN
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY COMPLAINT
ABOUT THE DELAY THE SECOND ONE
IS CONNECT GO WHO'S BEEN VERY
INVOLVED. IN THE PROCESS THAT
WE'RE HAVING TO OF FOR THE
RENEWED PERMIT APPEALS PROCESS
THROUGH. THE ONE THAT IS UNDER
REVIEW SO YES IT'S FRUSTRATING
IT'S FRUSTRATING TO THE FACILITY
IN THE APPELLANT. BUT BOTH THE
OF THE APPELLANT ON THE FIFTH
THE FACILITY HAVE BEEN ENGAGED
WITH US IN DESIGNING THE PERMIT
APPEAL PROCESS. SO WHILE.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING THEIR PERMIT
HEARD. THE OR THEIR PER MODEL.
IT'S NOT THE WHOLE PERMIT- THEY
ARE ENGAGED IN OUR PROCESS AND I
THINK THAT. IS A LITTLE SELF TO
THE TIME WOUND. AND WE HAVE A
LIMITED NUMBER OF TIME FOR
QUESTIONS SOME OF WHAT MY
COLLEAGUES TO IT BUT LET ME JUST
ASK. OUR WAS GOING BACK AND
FORTH WITH THE CHAIR ON MOST
THINGS. DO EITHER OF THE OTHER
TWO OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D
LIKE TO ADD ON WHAT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT. THAT HASN'T BEEN
SENT. JEANNIE SPOKE TO YOUR
QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS
THESE CHALLENGES THAT DDS HE
HAS. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS
IS TO COLLECT INFORMATION AND TO
THE UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE
ISSUES ACROSS ALL OF OUR
STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. AND WE HAVE
TWO OR THREE LEVELS PROVIDED BY
OUR SB ONE FIVE EIGHT MANDATE
THAT ALLOW US TO INFLUENCE AND
SHAPE THE OUTCOMES. OF
SPECIFICALLY JEANNIE SPOKE ABOUT
THE DIRECTOR'S PRIORITIES BUT IT
DOES NOT LEVY AS A BOARD ALSO
GOOD TO EVALUATE THE DISEASE
PROGRAMS AND PROVIDE A REPORT UP
ON AND ANNUAL BASIS TO THE
LEGISLATURE. ADDITIONALLY WE GET
TO SHAPE THE KPIS ON THE
PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT DDC
ADULTS SO THAT'S ANOTHER
MECHANISM ABLE TO STORE DRIVE
INFLUENCE AND- BRING THIS REFORM
TO LIFE. ONE LAST POSTSCRIPT I
THINK THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT
THERE CAN BE AN EXTRAORDINARY
LEVEL OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
WITHOUT DISRUPTING THE FLOW OF
BUSINESS. AND I THINK THAT BY US
BEING AS SUCCESSFUL IN DIFFERENT
LOCATIONS AROUND THE STATE- IT
MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR
EXAMPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME.
UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THE
KELLY P. A. N. DA DGSE TRIBAL
CONSULTATION POLICY. WE SENT OUT
. INDIVIDUALIZE TRIBAL
CONSULTATION LETTERS TO A
HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TRIBES IN
CALIFORNIA UNDER OUR CHAIR
SIGNATURE TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT
OUR FORTHCOMING WILL MAKING. SO
I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE
BRING FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE
ALWAYS OPERATING IN A PUBLIC
SETTING THAT HELP PEOPLE ENGAGE
IN BRING OUT COMMENTS WHICH IN
TURN. WITH REGULAR MEETINGS WITH
THE SENIOR MANAGERS OF DGSE WE
CAN HELP PUSH FORWARD THINGS
THAT SEEM TO BE SOLD. THANK YOU
I REALLY APPRECIATE HER SPONSORS
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE
BECAUSE- IT AS WE SAID IN THE
TALKS SOME OF THESE. ISSUES HAVE
BEEN SOMEWHAT INTRACTABLE ID
YOU'RE JUST GETTING THROWN IN IT
I HOPE THAT SOMEHOW YOU'RE THE
MAGIC THING THAT. HELPS DEAL
WITH THAT SO I JUST APPRECIATE
YOU'RE WILLING TO SERVE THANK
YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH I'M GONNA GIVE MY VICE
CHAIR CHANCE TO CATCH HER BREATH
AND GO TO SENATOR JOE VOGUE AND
THEN WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND. I
HAVE TO SAY A FEMALE POWER TEAM
RIGHT HERE- WITH THAT BEING SAID
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED TO SEE THE
DIFFERENT LIFE EXPERIENCES
THAT'S ALL THREE OF YOU ARE
BRINGING FORTH TO THE TABLE AND
VERY EXCITED TO SEE. THE WORK
THAT YOU WILL BE DEALING WITH
ALL OF THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT
TOGETHER WILL BE I THINK A GREAT
BENEFIT TO THIS. TO THIS BOARD.
MY QUESTION LIES WITH- ANDERSON
THAT HAVE MOVED VERY. EVEN PRIOR
TO COMING TO THE LEGISLATURE I.
VERY CONCERNED. IN THE FACT THAT
. CALIFORNIA HAS HAD. VERY HIGH
STANDARDS OF ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS
- AND PRACTICES. BUT THERE'S A
COMPONENT THERE THAT WORRIES ME
AND THAT'S THE FACT THAT
SOMETIMES WE SHIP MUCH OF OUR
TOXIC MATERIALS. OUT OF STATE OR
OUT OF THE COUNTRY. AND SO TO ME
THAT IS NOT THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
M. AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF
WE'RE GOING TO TRULY CARE ABOUT
THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IT SHOULD
BE DONE WITHIN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND ALLOWING FOR THAT
THOSE PROCESSES TO HAPPEN WITHIN
THE STATE SO. MY QUESTION TO YOU
WAS- DO YOU THINK- DO YOU THINK
THE DEPARTMENT ACTIONS ARE IN
LINE WITH THE CALIFORNIA'S
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP
BELIEVES IN SHOULD WE BE
HANDLING OUR OWN HAZARDOUS WASTE
RATHER THAN SHIPPING IT TO OTHER
STATES AND COMBINED WITH THE
LAST QUESTION- BECAUSE I KNOW
THE M. IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO SHIP
IT TO OTHER STATES BUT I THINK.
IT'S AN ETHICAL. BOB LET ME ASK
YOU TO DO YOU WANT TO DIRECT
YOUR QUESTION TO ALL THREE CAN
DO ALL THREE AND THEN WOULD LOVE
TO HEAR YOUR PERSPECTIVE. THANK
YOU FOR THE FOR THE COMMANDANT
CENTER DON'T WE HAVE HEARD FROM
EVEN THROUGHOUT ONLY BOARD
MEETINGS DEVOID FROM COMMUNITIES
THAT THE ARKANSAS IN THE GROUP
AT SIXTY IT'S SHIPPING HAZARDOUS
WASTE OUTSIDE OF OUR BOUNDARIES.
ON THE FLIP SIDE WE'VE ALSO
HEARD FROM COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE
HAZARDOUS WASTE LANDFILLS WITHIN
THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT BRINGING IN MORE
HAZARDOUS WASTE INTO THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I THINK WE AS
A BOARD NEED TO FIRST GET A
HOLISTIC VIEW OF ALL OF THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE GENERATED IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SB ONE FIVE
EIGHT- ESTABLISHES THE REQUIRES
THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT DGSE
BUILD A HAZARDOUS WASTE
MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE PLAN IS
INTENDED TO DO JUSTICE WHICH IS
PROVIDE A HOLISTIC VIEW OF ALL
OF THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF WEEDS
FROM BOARDROOMS BEING GENERATED
BY CALIFORNIA. AND DIED GIVES US
A FACT BASED TODAY MAKE
DECISIONS FROM IN TERMS OF HOW
DO WE THINK ABOUT THE DECISION
FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE'VE GOT
MANAGED WITHIN THE STATE AND
WHAT VEGAS TO GET SHIPPED OUT OF
THE STATE. AND WE ALSO HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT INNOVATIVE WAYS TO
MANAGE THE HAZARDOUS WASTE THE
FEE- BUT THIS REPORT IS DUE IN
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AND THE WE BE
OUT. BUT THIS IS WE HAVE A SUB
COMMITTEE. WHICH COMPRISES ALL
PHAM MEMBERS A TRUE REASON I.
LOOKING B. D. D. C. TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE SCIENCE
BEHIND THE HAZARDOUS WASTE
MANAGEMENT DATAPOINTS ARE
COLLECTING. BUILDING MORE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT SO THAT ALL OF OUR
STAKEHOLDERS UNDERSTAND THE
SCIENCE AND THE OUTPUTS BEING
GENERATED. EVENTUALLY OF COURSE
THIS REPORT IS GOING TO COME OUT
IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AND THAT'S
WHEN WE START TO HAVE A PUBLIC
DISCOURSE ON HOW DO WE- MANAGE
ALL OF THE SPACE WE GENERATED.
THANK I WOULD ADD TO THAT THE
HAS REACHED. MANAGEMENT REPORT.
IS TO THE FIRST QUARTER. SO WE
WILL BE HEARING AT OUR MARCH
MEETING. FROM DETAILS SEE THEY
WILL HAVE ASSESSED A REPORT THAT
WILL BE. THE PLATFORM FOR THE
PLAN. SO WILL BE GETTING THAT
DETAILS SEE SEES WITH. STAFF
ASSESSMENT WILL BE WILL BE
PUBLICLY REPORTED AT OUR MARCH
MEETING. THEN THE COMMITTEE AND
THE TEAM CAN WORK IN EARNEST ON
WHAT IS THE PLAN THERE ARE COST
FACTORS. SO YOU OF HAZARDOUS
WASTE TO DISPOSE OF AND YOU
BRING IT TO ONE OF THE HAZARDOUS
WASTE LANDFILLS IN CALIFORNIA
YOU PAY ACTS. YOU GO A LITTLE
BIT FARTHER TO UTAH ARE A LITTLE
BIT FOR THAT ARIZONA AND YOU PAY
LESS. SO THERE'S A COST FACTOR
SO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT AS
AN INNER STATUS. WHEN WE DON'T
CONTROL THAT PART OF IT FOR WE
COULD THERE COULD BE A RULE OF
LAW THAT SAYS. ALWAYS GENERATED
IN CALIFORNIA HAS TO BE DISPOSED
OF IN CALIFORNIA. IN WHICH CASE
SINCE HALF OF THE WASTE DOES
LEAVE RIGHT NOW THE HAZARDOUS
WASTE. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE
TO PUT IT. OR WE HAVE TO REDUCE
WASTE SO WE HAVE A COMBINATION
OF. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
REDUCE TOXIC WASTE HAD TO DEAL
WITH IT ON SITE IN SOME
INSTANCES. AND THEN ALSO. DO WE
HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE ALL
THE HAZARDOUS WASTE THAT WE
GENERATE IN THE STATE. RIGHT NOW
WE DON'T. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE
CHALLENGE THAT IS SOME OF
BELONGS TO D. TO A C. THEN A
GHOST CAL EPA THEN IT GOES TO
THE STATE SO THERE'S A LOT MORE.
THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE TO
RESOLVE IT. TO WHAT WE ALL AGREE
IS IT WOULD BE A GOAL IT. HOW DO
WE SOCIALIZE WASTING CALIFORNIA
. THE THING YOU NEED TO ADD TO
WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT
MISTRIALS GOING FORWARD. WE NEED
TO. LOOK MORE TO THE
INTELLECTUAL AND RESEARCH
PROWESS IN OUR STATE TO COME UP
WITH A TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES
AND THAT. CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN
THE STATES THAT WE CAN. PUT
FORWARD DIFFERENT KINDS OF.
CONTAMINANTS AND HOW COULD WE
FIND WAYS TO MAKE THEM SAFE TO
REMAIN IN THE GENERALIZED AREA.
IN WHICH THE CLEANUPS NEED TO
OCCUR WE HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF SITES THAT- ARE CONSIDERED
CONTAMINATED SITES. IN ADDITION
TO. WHAT SENATORS LAYERED HAD
MENTIONED THE SEVENTY FOUR SITES
THAT CURRENTLY HOLD. A HAZARDOUS
WASTE FACILITY PERMIT FOR THE
UNIVERSE OF PERMITTED HAZARDOUS
WASTE OPERATING FACILITIES. IT'S
QUITE MANAGEABLE THE UNIVERSE OF
CONTAMINATED SITES IS VERY LARGE
AND WE JUST NEED TO BOOST AS
VARIOUS- WORKGROUPS BEFORE US
HAVE SUGGESTED WE NEED TO BOOST
OUR INVESTMENT IN TREATMENT
TECHNOLOGIES. I LOVE ALL YOUR
**** THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU- SENATOR SMALLWOOD CUEVAS.
THANK YOU AND- GIVEN THE LAST
GROUP AND I AM VERY GLAD TO SEE-
THREE- VERY CAPABLE- WOMEN HERE
BEFORE US TODAY AND- THANK YOU
AND MISTER TIA FOR THE MUSTARD
COLORED- MEMO I THINK WE WERE WE
WERE. WE GOT THE SUNSHINE MEMO
THIS MORNING- I- I RECOGNIZE AND
APPRECIATE- WHAT SENATOR
LAYERED. ENGINE EARLIER THE
ENORMOUS TASK- THAT YOU HAVE-
YOU KNOW- THIS BOARD OF
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT IN DTS THE OVERSIGHT-
WHENEVER I SEE ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFETY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
I FEEL VERY VERY- EXCITED AND
GRATEFUL- FOR THIS WORK- WE
TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE
EFFECTS. THAT WE'RE IN YOU KNOW-
OUR PLANET HAS BEEN WARMING FOR
A LONG TIME- WE KNOW THAT-
WILDFIRES AND WE KNOW THAT-
EMISSIONS- POLLUTANTS WE KNOW
THAT- SCARCITY OF WATER- HAS
PROFOUND EFFECTS- ON OUR
COMMUNITIES AND WILL CONTINUE.
TO HAVE THESE PROFOUND EFFECTS-
ON OUR COMMUNITIES AND
PARTICULARLY THOSE MOST
VULNERABLE THOSE WHO ARE LIVING
NEXT TO- THESE POLLUTING
INDUSTRIES- AND YOU KNOW- OUR
FAMILIES- PARTICULARLY IN AND MY
COMMUNITY BLACK COMMUNITY JUST A
HIGH LEVEL DISPROPORTIONATE
LEVEL OF INFANT MORTALITY RATES-
HIGH LEVELS OF ASTHMA ECZEMA-
ALL OF THESE THINGS- WE ARE
PAYING FOR AND WILL BE PAYING
FOR YEARS TO COME AND- YOU KNOW
A EIGHT AM GRATEFUL THAT YOU
AND- THIS BOARD HAVE. TAKEN ON
THIS TASK TO REALLY DIRECT
POLICY AND PROVIDE STRATEGIC
GUIDANCE D. D. D. T. S. C. AND
TO SET FEES- AND REGULATIONS AND
TO MAKE SURE THAT- THESE- WASTE
PERMITS ARE HEARD- AND
COMMUNITIES ARE HEARD- IN IN THE
APPEALS- PROCESS- YOU KNOW I
ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSES-
EARLIER TODAY TO MY COLLEAGUES
AND- PARTICULARLY THE POINT OF
HELPING VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
AND SO MANY OF THEM AS I
MENTIONED ARE. OUR IN OUR
DISTRICT YOU ARE THE FACE. OF
THAT LIFELINE- AND WHAT YOU DO
MATTERS SO GREATLY AND SO I. YOU
KNOW I'M A BIG PROPONENT. OF
MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT-
I KNOW THAT FOLKS WHO LIVE IN
THESE COMMUNITIES ARE THE
EXPERTS THAT SOME PHCS NO MATTER
HOW MUCH THEY STUDY WE'LL NEVER
KNOW- THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE
THAT THOSE MOST IMPACTED
INDIRECTLY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES
NO ANSWER LUCIEN'S- THAT THEY
HAVE BEEN AND I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT SORT OF CBO. ARRANGED
ORGANIZED. THAT THAT ALLOW FOLKS
TO SPEAK OUT I THINK THOSE
THINGS ARE ARE IMPORTANT WHAT'S
MOST IMPORTANT FOR ME IS THE
INFRASTRUCTURE- THE WAYS IN
WHICH INFORMATION IS COLLECTED
BUT ALSO IN WHICH THEY ARE
TURNED INTO DIRECTIVES. INTO
POLICY. INTO ACCOUNTABILITY
MEASURES AND SO I WANT TO KNOW.
NOT ONLY BE- HOW YOU WILL
SUPPORT PEOPLE IN HISTORICALLY
NEGLECTED COMMUNITIES BUT HOW DO
WE MAKE SURE THEY FEEL. THAT
SUPPORT IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL YOU HAVE FOR
THAT. WOULD YOU ARE DIRECTED TO
ONE PERSON AND I WILL DIRECT YOU
TO THE CHAIR AND IF OTHERS RIGHT
TO THANK YOU ACAD I'D APPRECIATE
IT. IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE T.
S. C. THIS YEAR TO FOCUS ON
THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THEY
CAME UP AT THE BOARD MEETING TO
BE SURE THAT ENGAGEMENT IS PART
OF EVERY SINGLE THING THAT'S
DONE SO THAT. THESE DECISIONS
AREN'T MADE AND THEN YOU PUT IT
OUT FOR SHORT PUBLIC COMMENT IN
THE PUBLIC COMMENTS GO SOMEWHERE
WE'RE ACTUALLY AT OUR BOARD
MEETING SEVERELY LONG. AND IN
PART BECAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF
TIME FOR PUBLIC NOT JUST COME
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT
BUT ENGAGEMENT WHERE THEY CAN
ASK QUESTIONS WERE DTS CITY.
STAFF MEMBERS ARE PRESENT TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS WHERE WE HAVE
THESE WORKSHOP FORMS WHICH ARE
VERY OPEN DIALOGUE. AND THAT
THAT GIVES US THE RICH
INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO
INFORM HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO
THIS OVERSIGHT HOW ARE YOU GOING
TO- HOLDER CELLS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO I THINK
THAT'S SOMETHING WE GO BACK TO
AT EACH BOARD MEETING OKAY WE
HEARD THAT WATER WE GOING TO DO
ABOUT IT. HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT
THERE IS A RESPONSE TO THAT AND
SO THAT AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT
WE'RE DEVELOPING WITH THE ON
PUTS PROGRAM WHICH IS A RESPONSE
BACK FROM WITHIN D. T. S. C. AND
THEN. DID THE COMMUNITY MEMBER
FEEL HEARD DID THEY FEEL
RESPONDED TO DO THEY GET WHAT
THEY NEED- AND SOMETIMES IT'S
NOT GETTABLE. BUT WE CAN HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY NOT
WHAT AND WHAT CAN WE DO GOING
FORWARD TO IMPROVE ON IT SO I
THINK. IT'S MORE. TIME CONSUMING
AND TO BE TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF
ENGAGEMENT. BUT IT'S THE ONLY
WAY THAT ANY OF US ON THIS BOARD
KNOW HOW TO WORK. SO I THINK
FROM THE DIFFERENT PERCHES THAT
WE'VE BEEN IN WHETHER IT'S
DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT
EPA THE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS WHO
WERE THE OTHER TWO. ON BOARD
MEMBERS THAT'S HOW WE OPERATE SO
WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE
OF OUR ENERGY IN THE TIME TO DO
IT. BUT WE BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY
IN THAT SO I THINK MY COLLEAGUES
CAN ADD TO THAT. SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS YOU ASKED ABOUT
INFRASTRUCTURE A COUPLE OF
THINGS I WOULD MAKE NOTICE
WHENEVER WE'VE HAD- OUTSIDE OF
OUR PUBLICLY NOTICED BOARD
MEETINGS WHENEVER WE'VE MET WITH
COMMUNITY GROUPS. WE'VE WRITTEN
UP A SUMMARY OF WITH WHOM WE MET
AND WHAT WERE THE MAIN TAKEAWAY
POINTS WATER THE FOLLOW UP
ACTIONS FOR OURSELVES AND WITH
THE TSC. AND WE POST THOSE
READILY ON OUR BOARD WEBSITE AND
CERTAINLY NOT EVERYBODY WOULD BE
AWARE AT THE FRONT END BUT WE
FEEL IT'S VERY ACCOUNTABLE OF
US. TO DO SO. A SECOND EXAMPLE
IS IN DESIGNING THE NEW
HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITY APPEAL
PROCESS FOR THE FACILITY
PERMITS. WE'VE MADE IT POSSIBLE
FOR INDIVIDUALS I MEAN THE RAG
CERTAINLY- PENDING. AND HAS NOT
YET BEEN APPROVED BY THE WHOLE
BOARD BUT IN THE DESIGN THAT
WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD IN PUBLIC
SETTINGS WE'VE MADE IT POSSIBLE
FOR INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS. TO
FILE- TO PARTICIPATE IN A WAY
THAT HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE
BEFORE THROUGH AMICUS BRIEFS AND
WE THINK THAT THAT ALLOWS FOR
GREATER STRENGTH OF A COMMUNITY
VOICE. AND LASTLY ALSO FROM
INFRASTRUCTURE POINT OF VIEW ON
EITHER SIDE OF OUR BOARD
MEETINGS AROUND THE STATE.
WHETHER WE WERE IN LOS ANGELES
IN BAKERSFIELD SINCE WE'VE
ALWAYS DESIGNED A DAY OF BEING
IN THE FIELD AND MEETING WITH
MANY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS AND
COMMUNITY GROUPS. AND WE FOUND
THOSE TO BE- VERY REWARDING AND
THEN ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT
HAPPENED IN THAT. POSITION THANK
YOU BOTH COVERED MOST OF IT JUST
ONE MINOR POINT I MIGHT ADD IS.
BECAUSE BEEN NON GROUP BOARD
PLEASE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO
INVEST SOME TIME AND ENERGY AND
BUILDING AWARENESS OF THE FACT
THAT THEY EXIST AND WHAT ARE
SCHOOL BUSINESS AND- BUILD TRUST
ACROSS ALL STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
SO IN THAT SPIRIT OF YOU'VE
TAKEN ISSUES TO THE STATE CALLED
US SOURCE ONE EXAMPLE HAS BEEN
BUILDING THE BOARD'S OPERATING
PLAN WE WENT AND PRESENTED IT
TO- SEED WHICH IS. OF A-
BUSINESS- TRADE ASSOCIATION IN
CALIFORNIA WE'VE ENDED PRESENTED
TO CALIFORNIA RESOURCE IN A
RESOURCE MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.
THIS IS OUTSIDE OF TALKING ABOUT
THE OPERATING PLAN WITHIN OUR
BOARD CONTEXT. ON THE IDEA HERE
IS TO SOLICIT INPUT FROM
DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND
MAKE SURE THEY ARE. ALL ENGAGED
IN FEELING HARD. NO THANK YOU
FOR THAT AND I THINK THE A-
PERSONS PROGRAM HOUSE AND WILL
BE A PART OF. I'M INCREASING
THAT OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT- I
KNOW THAT THAT OFFICE WAS NOT
FUNDED AT THE LEVEL- THAT WAS
EXPECTED BUT THE PROGRAM. STILL
HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TRACK
COMPLAINTS AND- REPORTS
SUGGESTIONS- TO THE BOARD- THIS
IS YOU KNOW REALLY ESSENTIAL TO
THAT- CONSTITUENT SERVICE AND-
YOU KNOW. I'M NOT SURE HOW WELL
IT'S WORKING NOW GIVEN- THE
FUNDING- QUESTION BUT IT SOUNDS
LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING
BUILT DO YOU THINK. THE ABODES
PROGRAM IS ACCOMPLISHING ITS
INTENDED GOAL AND- AND WHAT'S
NEEDED. I THINK WE'RE IN THE
EARLY STAGES OF UNDERSTANDING
HOW MUCH ACTIVITY IT'S GOING TO
GENERATE AS I SAID IN THE FIRST
FEW MONTHS OF HAVING- A PERSON A
STAFF MEMBER FOR THE ON BIRDS
PROGRAM WE'VE RECEIVED I THINK
IT'S EIGHTY FOUR ENQUIRIES- THAT
WERE ASSESSING. AND WE'RE
WORKING WITH T. T. S. C. ON THE-
OTHER END OF IT. OKAY WE HAVE
THIS INQUIRY WE HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO TALK TO THE PROJECT MANAGER
THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR THE YOU
KNOW WHOEVER IT IS IT'S
APPROPRIATE. GET THE ANSWER THE
PUBLIC IS ASKING ABOUT MAKE SURE
IT GETS COMMUNICATED- SO WE'RE
ASSESSING THAT TIME THAT THAT'S
GOING TO TAKE AND HOW MUCH IS
WHAT HOW MUCH INCOMING THERE
WILL DAY BEFORE WE COME BACK AND
SAY. WE NEED FOR PEOPLE IN THIS
OFFICER SECOND PER HOWEVER WE
NEED IT- WE'RE JUST NOT IN A
POSITION YET TO MAKE A
RECOMMENDATION BUT WE WANT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WHEN WE
DO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IT'LL
BE WELL FOUNDED ON FACT. AND ONE
FINAL QUESTION- IN THIS HAS TO
DO WITH. YOU KNOW HOW DO YOU
FEEL- IS THIS BOARD DOING A
SUFFICIENT JOB ADS CHECKING THE
TSC- IT DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR
YOUR GETTING THE RESPONSES THAT
THAT THAT THAT YOU NEED- AND
PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE
COMING FROM COMMUNITIES- AND-
LASTLY DOES THE LEGISLATION
THAT- IS CREATED BY YOUR BOARD-
GIVE YOU ENOUGH INDEPENDENCE.
AND AUTONOMY BECAUSE- SOMETIMES
WHEN YOU HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP
THE BOARD. CAN GET- THE AUTONOMY
AND INDEPENDENCE- CAN BE
QUESTIONS SO JUST. YOU KNOW WHAT
BLACK HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP
AND HOW ARE YOU ENSURING THAT
INDEPENDENCE OF YOUR VOICE AS A
BOARD. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
COMING FROM THE TIER VIEWFINDER
MASKS ON SORRY FOR NOT LOOKING
AT YOU DURING THAT THAT QUESTION
I APPRECIATE IT- WE WERE WELL
AWARE IN LOOKING AT THE
LEGISLATION THAT IT'S NOT A FULL
ON GOVERNANCE BOARD. THE LEAD
THE LEGISLATION IS VERY SPECIFIC
AREAS THAT WE WORK ON WHETHER
IT'S PERMITTED PEALS HAZARDOUS
WASTE PLAN ON BOTH SIDES. WE
ASSESS THE PROGRAMS IN THE
PERFORMANCE WE'RE GOING TO KNOW
A LOT BETTER AFTER THE
PRIORITIES FOR THIS YEAR WHICH
WE DID APPROVE ADDED BY A VOTE
OF THE BOARD WITH THE AMENDMENTS
THAT BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY
MEMBERS OFFERED. THAT WE WILL BE
EVALUATING THAT AND WE'LL DO
THAT INDEPENDENTLY SO THE
PRIORITIES ARE PUBLIC NOW RIGHT
GEN DTS C. PERFORMS TO THOSE
PRIORITIES AND WE ASSESS THE
PERFORMANCE TO THOSE PRIORITIES-
IN THAT SENSE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE
ESTABLISHED AN INDEPENDENT.
PLACE IN A PUBLIC SPHERE WHERE
WHERE IS THIS ISN'T LIKE JUST
THE DISCUSSION WITH THE T. S. C.
ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES. ARE
CODIFIED FEAR HERE THEY'RE
WRITTEN THERE PRESENTED THEIR
PUBLIC AND I THINK THAT WAS.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAT'S A THAT'S
DIFFERENT THAN IT'S EVER BEEN.
IF WE BUMP INTO AREAS WHERE FOR
EXAMPLE WE HAVE PERMITTED PEALS
BUT WE DON'T HAVE PERMITTING.
BUT WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
ABOUT THE PERMITTING PROCESS IT
THROUGH OUR WORK ON PERMITTED
PEALS. WE SEE THINGS THAT HAPPEN
IN PERMITTING THAT HAD AN
INFLUENCE ON THIS ULTIMATE
APPEAL IS. IF SO MANY PERMITS
GET APPEALED IT SAYS THERE'S A
STORY THERE SO WE WANT TO
UNDERSTAND THE STORY AND WE WANT
TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT'S
MISINFORMATION OR NOT ENOUGH
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CORE OR THE
RAGS THAT THEY OPERATE UNDER.
RIGHT THE CRITERIA THEY OPERATE
UNDER SO WILL BE IN A POSITION I
BELIEVE AT THE END OF THIS NEXT
YEAR TO REALLY ANSWER THAT MORE
FULLY. BUT IT IS NOT A FULL ON
GOVERNANCE BOARD I JUST ALWAYS
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT
OUT LOUD- WELL I APPRECIATE THAT
AND APPRECIATE- INSURING THAT.
THOSE COMMUNITY CONCERNS- ARE
HEARD AND THAT THEIR IS- ALWAYS
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO
NOT REFLECT THE CULTURE OF THE
D. S. C. A D. T. S. C. BUT TO
ENSURE ITS INDEPENDENCE IN
DIFFERENT WAYS OF APPROACH WHEN
COMMUNITIES ARE. ARE ENGAGING
AND- WARNING YOUR INTERVENTION-
IN SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT
THEY'RE FACING- I KNOW THE
INDEPENDENCE CAN BE DIFFICULT AT
TIMES- BUT THE EXPECTATION IS
THAT THE RESPONSIVENESS AND
ENGAGEMENT IS CERTAINLY- DONE
DIFFERENTLY IN AT A DIFFERENT
LEVEL SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I
THINK THE BOARD MEETINGS ALSO
GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
CERTAIN. PRESSURES THAT
COMMUNITIES HAVE EXPRESSED- SB
SIX SEVEN THREE- AND THE NEED TO
DO THE VERY DIFFICULT JOB OF
PUTTING IN PLACE CUMULATIVE
IMPACTS- ANALYSIS THOSE ARE
THINGS THAT ONE STRUGGLES WITH
AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WE
STRUGGLE WITH GETTING THAT DONE
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. BY VIRTUE OF
TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH THE
DIRECTOR IN OUR PUBLIC BOARD
MEETINGS AND PEOPLE HAVING THE
ABILITY TO COMMENT I FEEL THAT
THOSE COMMUNITY CONCERNS DON'T
JUST GO AWAY BUT THEY HAVE A
PUBLIC FORUM IN WHICH TO VOICE
IT. THERE ARE PROBABLY A DOZEN
OTHER SUCH EXAMPLES AND WE KNOW
THAT DIRECTOR WILLIAMS IS
FOCUSED ON MANY OF THEM IN HER
PRIORITIES FOR HERSELF AND HER
TEAM THIS YEAR. THE ONE THING
THAT I THINK IS A STRUCTURAL
VULNERABILITY IS ONE THAT WE AS
A TEENY TINY BOARD FACE. WE ARE
FOR PART TIME BOARD MEMBERS AND
A FULL TIME CHAIR WHERE STAFF OF
FOUR WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT
DONE THIS YEAR. BUT WE ARE GOING
TO HAVE DIFFICULTY HIRING- AT
ENGINEERS AND SCIENTISTS AT THE
SAME TIME DGSE HAS HUNDREDS OF
VACANCIES. IN SCIENTISTS AND
ENGINEERS THAT ARE MEANT TO
STAFF THOSE CRITICAL COMMUNITY
FACING PROGRAMS. SO I JUST
WANTED. EXTENDED MY CONCERN THAT
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE
HIRING DIFFICULTIES AS WE ARE
HAVING HIRING DIFFICULTIES.
THANK YOU SENATE VICE CHAIR.
THANK YOU MADAM PRETEND THAT
TIME I'D I DO APOLOGIZE I'VE
BEEN KIND OF BOUNCING BACK AND
FORTH BETWEEN THEM COMMITTEES
AND MEETINGS- AT I APPRECIATE
THE TIME THAT ALL THREE OF YOU
SPENT WITH ME YESTERDAY. AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE AND
WHAT YOUR VISION AND GOAL IS FOR
THIS NEW POSITION THAT YOU GUYS
ARE TAKING- WITH THIS NEW BOARD-
FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL TOPICS-
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY. IN YOUR
CONNECTION WITH DTC I DO HAVE
QUESTIONS I'M I WAS IN ASKING AS
ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T ASK YOU
YESTERDAY BUT BASED ON THE
COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD PROVIDED
TO MY COLLEAGUES. I DO HAVE A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS- AND I'M
SURE YOU MENTIONED THAT WE
SHOULD 50% OF OUR HAZARDOUS
WASTE OR OVER. 50% OF OUR
HAZARDOUS WASTE OUT OF
CALIFORNIA TO. ARIZONA AND UTAH
. RIGHT YES TO OTHER STATES HERE
STATE. TO OTHER STATES- IS A- SO
WE TALKED HISTORY A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE LIABILITY ISSUE FOR
TRANSPORTING THAT BY TRACK-
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT
SOMETHING THAT AROSE IN MY
CURIOSITY TODAY IS WHY DO WE DO
THAT. WELL I THINK IF YOU IF.
IT'S COST THERE'S A CHOICE THAT
PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT IS IT'S
CHEAPER TO GO TO ARIZONA WITH-
UTAH THAN IT IS. TO PAY THE-
HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITIES IN
CALIFORNIA. THE CAPACITY OF
THOSE FACILITIES- THEY HAVE TO
HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACE
FOR THEIR EXISTING CLIENTS SO
YOU KNOW THERE I WILL I DON'T
KNOW THAT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE
A COMPLETE CAPACITY WE'RE GOING
TO FIND THAT OUT AT THE END OF
THE QUARTER. IT'S TO REALLY
CAPACITY THERE AND YOU HAVE
COMMUNITIES THAT BOTH RELY ON
THOSE FACILITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT
IT'S PART OF. THE COMMUNITIES OF
GROWN UP AROUND THE SITE SAYS IT
WE TOWARD THEM WE GOT A SENSE OF
IT. AND THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITIES
CONCERNED WITH- MIGRATION OF
TOXICS FROM THOSE SITES SO
YOU'VE YOU'RE BALANCING AND
THEY'RE UNDER PERMIT REVIEW VERY
SHORTLY SO BOTH OF THEM ARE.
BUTTON WILL OWN CATTLEMEN ARE
ARE BOTH IN THE QUEUE FOR-
PERMIT REVIEW SO YOU'VE GOT THAT
PIECE OF IT. AND IT'S NOT LIKE
PEOPLE ARE RUSHING IN TO SAY HEY
I WANT TO PUT A- OF A HAZARDOUS
WASTE SITE SOMEWHERE AND IF THEY
DO THEY WANT TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE
THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. SO WE'RE
THESE OF THE BALANCING ACTS THAT
PEOPLE HAVE PLAYED OVER THE
YEARS AND IN THE OF FORTY FOR
THAT WASTE TO LEAVE THE STATE IS
THERE. SO IF IT'S THERE AND
PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT'S OF A
CHEAPER MORE ACCESSIBLE WAY FOR
THEM TO DISPOSE OF THEIR WASTE
THEY MAY VERY WELL CHOOSE THAT.
AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF
FACTORS AND THAT'S WHY THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN
IS SO CRITICAL AND THAT WAS
BUILT INTO ONE FIFTY EIGHT BUT
IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO
ARRIVE AT THAT. BUT WE CAN
REPORT TO YOU ON THE REPORT WHEN
IT COMES OUT IN THE END OF THE
FIRST QUARTER THAT'LL GIVE US
ALL A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE
UP AGAINST. THANK YOU. I JUST
WANT TO ADD ONE MORE POINT TO.
POINT WHICH IS ABOUT- REALLY
THINKING ABOUT INNOVATION.
ULTIMATELY BE HAVE GENERATED
HAZARDOUS WASTE OR MANY OF THEM
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
GENERATE HAZARDOUS WASTE AS A
STATE. AND TO REALLY THINK ABOUT
SOLUTIONS THAT ARE INNOVATIVE
FOR US TO BE WITH MANAGE AND
DEAL WITH AND MANAGE THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE THE FLEET IN
CALIFORNIA IS THE NORTH STAR
METRIC FOR ALL OF US AND IT'S
SOMETHING WHERE. WE'RE LOOKING
TO WORK WITH THE DTS THE END AND
PERHAPS EVEN ACADEMIA ON. THANK
YOU I AM. AT MY NEXT QUESTION
WAS ARE WE AT CAPACITY BUT WE
WON'T KNOW THAT TO THE REPORT
COMES OUT THAT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING. AT THE NEXT
QUESTION I HAS IS WHEN IT GOES
TO THESE OTHER AREAS ARIZONA
UTAH ARE OTHER STATES. OF DO YOU
KNOW WHERE IT GOES DOES IT GO TO
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ARE
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES- IN THE
SAME WAY THAT BUTTON WILLOW AND
CATTLEMEN. ARE PRIVATE LICENSED.
DISPOSAL SITES FOR HAZARDOUS
WASTE- AND ALSO AT CATTLEMEN FOR
PCB WASTE. IN UTAH FOR EXAMPLE
AND- A TEXAS INCINERATOR. THERE
ARE CONCERNS THAT COMMUNITIES
HAVE BUT THOSE. CONCERNS DON'T
NECESSARILY ENTRY INTO THE
BIDDING PROCESS. FOR SOMEONE
DOING A CLEAN UP. IN THE ATTIC
CALIFORNIA CONTAMINATED SITE.
AND SO I HAVE OVER THE YEARS
HEARD ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS THE
KEY IS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE
STATES. INSPECTORS FACILITIES
AND ASSURED THOSE COMMUNITIES
SEND US WHERE THEY TAKE
CALIFORNIA WASTE BUT THEY ARE IN
COMPLIANCE AND SO FOR ALL OF US
TO BE VIGILANT WHEN WASTE IS
GOING OUT OF STATE. TO KNOW THAT
IT'S GOING TO A PLACE THAT IS IN
COMPLIANCE UNTIL SUCH TIME. AS
WE CAN MANAGE OUR OWN WASTE.
WOULD YOU THINK- WOULD YOU THINK
OR WOULD YOU KNOW IN L. THREE
EITHER ANYONE OF THE THREE OF
YOU. WOULD YOU THINK IT WOULD
YOU KNOW IF CALIFORNIA'S
REGULATORY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFETY PROCESSES ARE MORE
STRINGENT FOR LESS STRINGENT
THAN OTHER STATES. WHEN MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE
MORE STRINGENT AND IT'S PART OF
THE DECISION- TO. TO TAKE THEM
OUT OF STATE WHAT'S CONSIDERED
HAZARDOUS WASTE HERE MIGHT NOT
ALL BE CONSIDERED HAZARDOUS WAY
SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT'S PART OF
WHAT WE'VE HEARD. BUT AGAIN
WAITING FOR THE FULL REPORT ON
THE STATE OF HAZARDOUS WASTE INK
IN CALIFORNIA WHICH AGAIN IS DUE
OUT BY THE END OF THE FIRST
QUARTER I THINK WE'LL HAVE A
MUCH BETTER. ABILITY TO ANSWER
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND I AM
HAPPY TO COMMIT TO COMING BACK
TO YOU WITH THAT I APPRECIATE
THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE ME WITH INFORMATION-
WHEN YOU MENTIONED- BUTTONWILLOW
OUR CATTLEMEN OR OTHER FOR
SEVENTY OTHER FURTHER SEVENTY
FOUR FACILITIES HERE IN
CALIFORNIA CORRECT. WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE SEVENTY FOUR FOR FIVE
FACILITIES WHO LICENSE THAT WHO
WHO PERMITS THEM TO OPERATE
WITHIN THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE
OPERATING IN. THE TSC. UNDER
STATE STATUTE ISSUES HE HAS JUST
WASTE FACILITY OPERATING
PERMITS. THERE ARE USUALLY AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL OTHER KINDS OF
PERMITS AND AUTHORIZATIONS. BUT
THE SEVENTY FOUR THAT I REFERRED
TO ARE THOSE FOR BUSINESSES
CURRENTLY OPERATING THAT HAVE A
HAS JUST WASTE MANAGEMENT.
OPERATION IN SOME FACETS THAT IS
GOVERNED BY THE DGSE ISSUED
PERMIT. OKAY AND THEN OF THOSE
FACILITIES A SEVENTY FOUR THEIR
AUTHORIZED TO. WERE OPERATING
CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE THAT- WASTE
MANAGEMENT PERMIT- IN WE TALK
ABOUT THEM THE SMALL WOULD
SPECIFICALLY AND OTHERS THAT ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES- BROWN
BLACK COMMUNITIES. AND HOWEVER
YOU WANT TO PUT IT. UP MY
QUESTION IS IT WHAT WAS THEIR.
FIRST THE FACILITY OR THE
COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT'S- THAT
HAS SEVENTY FOUR DIFFERENT
ANSWERS OKAY- THE GOING BACK I
MEAN IF ONE THINKS ABOUT-
ESSENTIALLY THAT'S NO LONGER
OPERATING IN LOS ANGELES LIKE
THE EXIDE BATTERY RECYCLING
KILEY. YOU KNOW FACILITIES- AT
THE TURN OF THE FROM THE
NINETEEN HUNDREDS INTO THE TWO
THOUSANDS ARE VERY DIFFERENT
THAN THOSE THAT WERE TO. THAT
WOULD THEIR A CENTURY EARLIER
BUT SOME OF THOSE SAME OLD
INDUSTRIES EXISTED AND JUST
CHANGED OWNERSHIP AND FUNCTION.
SO I THINK THAT- IT WOULD BE A
FANTASTIC ON PAPER FOR A TEAM OF
STUDENTS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE
SEVENTY FOUR WHAT I'M NOT
INCLUDING IN RESPONSE TO SENATOR
GLAZERS QUESTION. IS THERE ARE
ABOUT TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE
THAT HAVE CLOSED AND HAVE
OPPOSED CLOSURE PERMIT AS WELL I
JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE
WEEDS ON THAT. NO I APPRECIATE
THAT AND I I'M NOT TRYING TO
CATCH YOU IN A GOTCHA MOMENT I'M
JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. YOU
KNOW IF DTC LICENSE THESE
FACILITIES DO THEY LICENSE THEM
TO OPERATE IN VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES OVER THE
COMMUNITIES. WITH THE
COMMUNITIES COME AFTER IN THE
LOCAL ORDINANCE ALLOWED HOUSING
TO BE BUILT AROUND THESE
FACILITIES. SO I'M JUST TRYING
TO DETERMINE THAT- BECAUSE
SOMEWHERE IN THAT PROCESS.
OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT. THEM WE
WANT ANY COMMUNITIES. INVOLVED
IN THESE AREAS ARE CLOSE TO AN
IMPACT AREA WHERE THEY WOULD BE.
HURT BUT- IF THE BUSINESS HAS
BEEN LICENSED IN DULY PAID FINES
AND WHATEVER. IN PLACE PEOPLE
WITHIN IT WITHIN A- I DON'T KNOW
SEVERAL ACRES ONE ACRE TWO
BLOCKS YOU'VE TOWARD THESE
FACILITIES I HAVEN'T. AND THEY
WERE LICENSE BY TDOC IN THE
MIDDLE OF A DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES
NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT HAS YOU
KNOW A POOR LOS IS LOW
SOCIOECONOMIC DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITY OR AREA. WHY WOULD DTS
SEEN DO THAT IS MY QUESTION SO
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT. AND
IF NOT WHY DO THE LOCALS
AUTHORIZE HOUSING TO BE BUILT
AROUND THESE FACILITIES WITHIN
AN IMPACT AREA. TO CREATE THIS
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE I GUESS
LET'S I'M A BIG PICTURE PERSON I
LIKE LET'S SOLVE THE PROBLEM
AND- WITHOUT HURTING THE
FACILITIES WE OBVIOUSLY USE
HAZARDOUS WASTE. WE HAVE IT YOU
KNOW WE CREATE IT YOU'RE IN
CALIFORNIA. AND MUCH LIKE. AGAIN
GOING BACK TO OIL MUCH LIKE OIL
WE USE OIL EVERY SINGLE DAY ONE
POINT EIGHT MILLION BARRELS OF
OIL. HE'S GONNA MAKE FUN OF ME
RIGHT NOW. AND FOR SAYING IT
AGAIN ON THE TO DO IT OVER TIME
OKAY. M. I HEARD AND TAKE A
BREATH. I THOUGHT IT WAS COMING.
AND WE USE ONE POINT EIGHT
MILLION BARRELS OF OIL EVERY DAY
BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
PRODUCE IT HERE EVEN THOUGH WE
HAVE IT HERE. AND WE BULLDOZE
DOWN THE AMAZON RAINFOREST
AFFECT INDIGENOUS INDIANS IN THE
IMPACT AREA TO BRING OIL. OVER
OUR ECOSYSTEM. PRODUCING TWENTY
SIX MILLION METRIC TONS OF
CARBON EMISSION WITH THE SHIPS
TO BRING US THE OIL THAT WE USE.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. IN
THAT SENSE AND IN THE AREA THAT
YOU GUYS OVERSEE. WE PRODUCE
HAZARDOUS WASTE WE HAVE
COMPANIES THAT DEAL WITH
HAZARDOUS WASTE THIS LICENSE BY
DTIC. HOW THEY GET TO THESE
COMMUNITIES WHERE THE COMMUNITY
COMES FIRST THE FACILITY COMES
FIRST THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION I
WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO- THAT.
BUT ARE WE DOING THE SAME THING
WE'RE DOING WITH OIL ARE WE
PRODUCING THIS HAZARDOUS WASTE
AND WE'RE SHIPPING IT TO ANOTHER
STATE. THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE
SAME RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS THAT
WE REQUIRE HERE. AND WE'RE JUST
I DON'T THINK **** NILLY. ****
NILLY SENDING IT TO ANOTHER
STATE THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE
SAME. AND ARE THEY GOING TO
IMPACTED AREAS FOR AFFORDABLE
COMMUNITIES IN THOSE STATES AND
IF SO SHAME ON US. I'M SO THOSE
ARE THE KIND OF THAT'S THAT'S
WHAT BROUGHT MIGHT. SOMETHING I
BELIEVE AND- I APOLOGIZE THE
SOCIAL SOCIAL SOCIAL ASSESSMENT
OF A SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU PERK
TO THOSE QUESTIONS. HE
RESPONDED. WE NEED TO. WAIT WITH
. I'M GONNA. ANOTHER OKAY OF MY
COLLEAGUES AND YELL. A I THINK
THE IS ASKING IS ABOUT HOW. DO
WE MAKE A DECISION TO SELF
COMMUNITY COMPOSED OF THE
FACILITY COMPRISED. AND I WANT
TO ANSWER THAT BY SAYING THAT
THE SIGNS OF EVOLVING- THREE LOW
NEW THINGS ABOUT OKAY NOW THIS
IS A HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS AND
THIS THESE ARE THE KINDS OF
HEALTH IMPACTS THAT CHEMICAL
BECAUSE TO THE COMMUNITIES. AND
IN SOME CASES THERE ARE
DECISIONS MADE WHICH- ABOUT A
FACILITY BERMAN DECISION SAY FOR
EXAMPLE DRY CLEANERS. DRY
CLEANERS USE TOXIC CHEMICALS AND
THEY'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO
OPERATE IN CALIFORNIA THERE'D
PROBABLY AN EVERYONE ONE OF YOU
IS A DISTRICTS. BUT AT THE
THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE
OPERATIONS HAVE ALSO LEARNED
THAT DRY CLEANING FLUIDS CAN GET
ADMITTED INTO THE ENVIRONMENT
AND COST CONTAMINATION AND THE
DGSE HAS TO THEN. GO CLEAN UP
THE SITES AND ENSURE THAT THE
COMMUNITIES ARE SAFE ON. THE I
THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT TO PUT ON
SALAS IT'S- FACILITIES ARE
LEGALLY ALLOWED TO USE TOXIC
CHEMICALS TO ON THE COAST OF
THEIR BUSINESS. DTCS RALPH AND
THEN OUR- BOARDS DAHLE DOESN'T
OVERSIGHT AUTHORITIES TO MAKE
SURE THEY'RE DOING IT IN A WAY
THAT STUFF. THE IF. ANOTHER
OPERATIONS ARE BEING ENFORCED-
ON THE REGULAR BASIS TO MAKE
SURE THE COMMUNITIES ARE SAFE
AND THE WORKERS ARE SAFE- BUT
ALSO NOTED THAT THE SIGNS OF
EVOLVING WHICH IS WHY WE DO NEED
TO BE. FUTURE PROOFING A LOOK
AND THINKING AHEAD LOOKING AT
SEVERAL ON IT IS. THAT WE KNOW
THAT DRY CLEANING DRY CLEANERS
ARE USING TOXIC CHEMICALS CAN BE
STEERED THEM TOWARDS A SAFER
ALTERNATIVE THAT WE KNOW EXIST
IN THE MARKET. THAT'S WHAT NEEDS
TO HAPPEN AT THE NEXT. OKAY I
THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT
EXAMPLE IF YOU DON'T MIND IT MY
EXPANDING ON IT- THERE'S ABOUT
SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED ACTIVE AND
. INACTIVE DRY CLEANERS IN THE
STATE. IN A HUNDRED AND TWELVE
OF THEM. SOME ARE IN YOUR
DISTRICT- ARE- HAVE A REALLY. IN
STORE SCHOOL. THEIR SEVENTY FIVE
OR HIGHER IN SO DEAR. BECAUSE OF
THEIR PROXIMITY TO WHAT THEY
CALL SENSITIVE RECEPTORS THAT'S
PEOPLE SCHOOLS COMMUNITIES. NOW
WHEN THOSE DRY CLEANERS WERE PUT
THERE AND EVERYBODY WAS USING
PERC. NOBODY KNEW THAT NOW WE
KNOW IT AND EVEN IF SOMEBODY
ABANDONS THE DRY CLEANER DOESN'T
MEAN THOSE CHEMICALS AREN'T
STILL AROUND. SO THE C. B. C. I.
PROGRAM WHICH IS PART OF WHAT
WAS FUNDED IN THAT SAME CYCLE IS
ONE FIFTY EIGHT. IS EXPLORING
THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE
WORST OF THE WORST. AND
INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITIES
BECAUSE IT WE VISITED- A DRY
CLEANER ATTEMPTING TO. CONVERT
TO WET CLEANING AND IT'S SEVENTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BUY THE
PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT. THAT
THAT WORK CLEANER WOULD NEED TO
NOT USE CHEMICALS AND THE
SPECIAL TRAINING. THAT THE
WORKERS AT THE DRY CLEANERS ARE
WHERE CLEANERS WOULD HAVE TO USE
SO IT'S A BIG THING- TO HAVE
THAT HAPPEN- TO TRY TO EXECUTE
THAT SO. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF
THINGS THAT- THE DEPARTMENT IS.
INVESTIGATING TRYING TO GET THE
BEST POSSIBLE SCIENCE IN THE
BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO THAT
BUT IT'S MASSIVE AND THAT WAS
SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE WE
KNEW- THAT THE HOW HAZARDOUS
PERK WAS THAT AND THAT MAKES
SENSE THAT MAKES THE SO. IT WAS
KIND OF LIKE THE CHICKEN AND THE
EGG RIGHT IT WAS GOING AFTER AND
I DIDN'T. CONSIDER THE INVOLVING
A NEW ADDITIONS TO HAZARDOUS
WASTE WHERE FACILITIES. GOD
PLEASE DON'T. BANDURI CLEANING
WE- HEALTH NEEDS TO CLEAR YEAH
WELL. IT'S CLEAR. YOU WOULD HAVE
DO. THAT'S WHY SHE'S WERE. SORRY
AND I WAS KIND OF TRYING TO
FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN AGAIN
MY OTHER CONCERN WAS AGAIN ABOUT
HOW. CALIFORNIA SET CERTAIN
POLICIES WHICH- AND WE SAY
TRANSITION WE SAY DIVERSITY WITH
THE EQUITY WE SEE ALL THOSE
THINGS BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY
DOING IS JUST NIMBYISM RIGHT
DON'T READ IN OUR BACKYARD BUT
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ARIZONA
COLORADO OR WHATEVER. AND WE'RE
NOT IN OUR BACKYARD BUT WE'RE
GOING TO GET FROM THE AMAZON AND
PUSH THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR
HOUSE- IN BUT OUR BACKYARD.
UNDER THIS LEGISLATION HADI IN
PREVIOUS LEGISLATIVE BODIES IN
THIS BUILDING- IS THE SAFEST.
MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTED
SAFETY HEALTH ZONE STATE IN THE
WORLD I DON'T. I DON'T CARE HOW
YOU LOOK AT WHATEVER PROCESS
WHETHER IT'S DGSE AND NATURAL
RESOURCES WINDS I DON'T CARE HOW
IT WOULD SEND WE ARE THE BEST AT
WHAT WE DO FOR THOSE
ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES. INTO HI
I'M LOOKING FOR ANOTHER WORD BUT
TO SAY NIMBYISM LIKE WE'RE NOT
GETTING NOT MY BACKYARD BUT
WE'LL SEND IT TO THESE OTHER
PLACES IS NOT A SOLUTION TO OUR
PROBLEMS. SO I AM VERY
INTERESTED ABOUT THE CAPACITY
ISSUE AND IF WE DO HAVE CAPACITY
WHERE WE NOT DOING IT HERE IN
THE SAVE SOME SOME BAYERN MENTAL
PROTECTIVE WAY. POSSIBLE I THINK
YOU ALL I DIDN'T ASK YOU A
QUESTION YOU WANT ME TO ASK YOU
A QUESTION. NO NO. NO I THINK
YOU. VERY MUCH I AGREE WITH MISS
SMALL WITH THAT IT IS VERY.
REFRESHING TO SEE ON A PANEL OF.
OF WOMEN BEFORE HAS RUNNING AND
HEADING UP A AND THE FOURTH
PERSON I HEAR THAT. THERE'S A
FEW THERE'S HUMOR. AND SO I
APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK M.
NO OFFENSE BUT- I THINK THAT
WOMEN HAVE- YOU KNOW ABILITIES
TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND THINK
OUTSIDE THE BOX- IN AND- IN
ADDRESS WE- COME UP WITH REAL
SOLUTIONS. AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WE
HAD YESTERDAY THANK YOU. THANK
YOU AB FOR. THANK YOU- WELL I
DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
BECAUSE I THINK MY COLLEAGUES
HAVE HAVE REALLY- COVERED A LOT
OF GROUND. I DID THE ONLY THING
I WOULD- WELL MAYBE IT IS A
QUESTION- BUT HOW DO YOU
ENVISION THE BOARD WILL
COMMUNICATE WITH US THE
LEGISLATURE IF YOU'RE DOING A
FIVE STATUTORY CHANGES OR SOME
OF THESE COMMENTS AND
DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD TODAY.
YOUR NEW BOARD- I MEAN THERE'S
SOME EXCITEMENT IN THAT IN THAT
YOU GET TO SET THE TONE IN THE
DIRECTION THERE'S ALSO ALL THE
WORK YOU HAD TO DO- IN ORDER TO-
AND I'M GLAD IT REALLY TOOK A-
WHILE BEFORE WE COULD SCHEDULE
THIS BECAUSE- IT ALLOWS YOU TO
ACTUALLY GET SOME REAL WORK
UNDER YOUR BELT. GET IT UP AND
RUNNING AND I HAVE TO SAY- I DID
ASK A QUESTION BUT I. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE DIVERSITY OF
EXPERTISE- I COMMEND THE
GOVERNOR FOR- THE SELECTION AND-
JUST TO BE CLEAR THE RULES
COMMITTEE APPOINTED- MS GOMEZ- I
MADE IT MADE THE RECOMMENDATION-
I DON'T ALWAYS SOMETIMES
COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGISLATURE
BRING NAMES FOR VERY SPORTS. BUT
SHE HAS AND TO- CONSIDERS
SMALLWOOD. SHE HAS EXPERTISE IN
THE E. J. COMMUNITY WHICH WAS
THE ENTIRE REASON OF THAT AND WE
WANTED TO HAVE SOMEONE BUT IT'S
CLEAR TO ME- LISTENING TO THE-
DISCUSSION TODAY INTO EACH OF
YOU AND LOOKING AT YOUR RESUMES.
AND YOUR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES
THAT THIS IS A PRETTY WELL
ROUNDED. GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS
INCLUDING THE SPEAKER'S
APPOINTMENT AND OUR APPOINTMENT.
AND WE SHOULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT
THAT BECAUSE- TRANSITION DOES
OCCUR AND BY THE WAY I. THE
SMELL OF PERK ON CLOTHES IS NOT
EXACTLY GREAT MAYBE NOBODY
REMEMBERS THAT. BUT I JUST
APPRECIATE YOUR BASE OF
KNOWLEDGE AND A KNOW THAT WE
HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. AND IT
WILL ASK YOU HOW YOU ENVISION
GETTING THAT THOSE REPORTS. TO
THE LEGISLATURE AND IF YOU HAVE
ANY RECORD. SURE FOR. YOU KNOW
WHAT WE CAN ENTERTAIN WHAT WE
DID ON AUGUST THIRD WHICH WAS.
PRETTY SOON AFTER WE STARTED WE
HAD OUR FIRST OVER REPORT
TESTIMONY TO THE JOINT COMMITTEE
OF THE ASSEMBLY AND SENATE
COMMITTEES ON ENVIRONMENT. AND
THAT HAPPENS ANNUALLY IS MY
UNDERSTANDING WE WILL COME ON
REQUEST AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING
IN PARTICULAR THAT WE FEEL THAT
WE WANT TO BRING BEFORE YOU THEN
WILL PETITION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN
WILL GO THROUGH- VILLAGE STAFF
AT D. T. S. C. FOR THAT. AND WE
WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE WOULD LIKE
TO MEET ONE ON ONE WE WANT TO
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS SO NOW
THAT WE'RE MORE STOOD UP AND WE
HAVE SOME STAFF I THINK OUR
AVAILABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY
TO ALL OF YOU IS IMPERATIVE
BECAUSE THAT. YOU HAVE THE
PERSPECTIVE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS
AND OF WHAT'S LEGISLATIVELY
POSSIBLE. BECAUSE WE COULD SAY
EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT BUT THAT
ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO FLY-
HAVING BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE-
WE'RE TRYING TO GET LEGISLATION
I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF THERE
ARE LEGISLATIVE FIXES THAT ARE
NEEDED THEN WE WILL HAVE TO COME
TO YOU IF ITS BUDGET OBVIOUSLY
WILL HAVE TO DO THAT WE DO A FEE
OF FORTY AND WE WERE TREATING
THAT JUDICIOUSLY. JUST BECAUSE
WE HAVE A DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD
USE IT. **** NILLY WE REALLY
NEED TO JUSTIFY- AND HAVE FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITY SO. I DON'T SAID.
IT DOES- I THINK THAT YOU WILL
FIND THAT OUR POLICY COMMITTEES
WILL REACH OUT. YOU KNOW THIS IS
IT THE SENATE HAS A UNIQUE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS WITH CONFEREES.
AND I THINK YOU SEE THAT MY
COLLEAGUES COME WITH LOTS OF
QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND THE
DESIRE YOU SET THROUGH TWO
OTHER- APPOINTMENTS- WE'RE WE
FEEL COMPELLED TO HAVE TO SAY ON
BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS SO I
THINK WE FEEL FORTUNATE THE
SENATE THAT WE GET TO DO THIS
AND I JUST. COMMEND YOU FOR THE
WORK YOU'VE DONE. THUS FAR AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE ON GOING
ON RELATIONSHIP. I'M GOING TO
OPEN IT UP TO MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC AS YOU'VE SEEN US DO
ALREADY A COUPLE OF TIMES. I
WANT TO START HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. EXCUSE ME-
AND ASK PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD
AND LET ME ASK THOSE WHO WISH TO
SPEAK. NAME ORGANIZATION IF ANY
THAT YOU REPRESENT AND WHICH-
INDIVIDUAL YOU ARE SUPPORTING
AND OF ALL THREE YOU CERTAINLY
CAN SAY THAT AS WELL PLEASE COME
ON FORWARD AND WELCOME. HI MY
NAME IS GINA SOLOMON I AM A
CLINICAL PROFESSOR IN THE
DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND
OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE AT UCSF.
I'M ALSO A PROGRAM DIRECTOR AT
THE PUBLIC HEALTH INSTITUTE IN
OAKLAND. AND I ATE- I THINK YOU
COULD KNOW IF- YOU COULDN'T HAVE
A BETTER GROUP OF PEOPLE BEFORE
YOU. TO SERVE IN THIS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT ROLE ON THIS OVERSIGHT
BOARDS- DTS C. HAS REALLY BEEN.
IT HAS GREAT LEADERSHIP IS
MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION. BUT
THE BOARD NEEDS TO HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE WHILE ALSO BEING
CONSTRUCTIVE AND HOPING TO FIND
A PATH FORWARD THROUGH THESE
REALLY TANGLED ISSUES AND SO I
THINK IS A GREAT GROUP. I'M ALSO
I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF
OF COLLEAGUES AT BREAST CANCER
PREVENTION PARTNERS WHO HAD TO
LEAVE WHO ALSO WANTED TO
REGISTER STRONG SUPPORT. AND IN
PARTICULAR OF SUPPORT FROM ALL
OF US FOR THE FOR THE CHAIR OF
THIS BOARD TOO MANY OF US. HAVE
WORKED WITH FOR YEARS THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS DON KHAKI WITH
MCCUE CAP KEEPER DRONE I AM
PLEASED TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU IN
SUPPORT OF ALL THREE APPOINTEES
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND
ECONOMIC BALANCE. AS YOU WELL
KNOW C. BUT AS AN ORGANIZATION
FOUNDED BY GOVERNOR PAT BROWN AT
THAT BRINGS TOGETHER A NUMBER OF
STAKEHOLDERS IN NOT ONLY THE
REGULATED- BUSINESS COMMUNITY
BUT ALSO PUBLIC MEMBERS. LABOR
WITH THE GOAL OF TRYING TO FIND
OUT WORKABLE SOLUTIONS FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES AND
THAT ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE
IMPORTANCE OF A VIBRANT ECONOMY.
OUR EXPERIENCE IN WORKING NOT
ONLY WITH THE LEGISLATURE IN
ADMINISTRATION ON- THE-
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROVISIONS OF
SENATE BILL ONE FIFTY EIGHT WERE
VERY PRODUCTIVE. AND WE'RE
REALLY PLEASED TO BE WORKING
WITH THESE FINE APPOINTEES AS
PART OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT
WE HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE. FAIRER
HAS CERTAINLY RESPONSIVE- AND
CERTAINLY EQUITABLE IN TERMS OF
THEIR INTERACTIONS ENGAGEMENT.
WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS AND
CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM AND
BEING A SOLUTIONS ORIENTED
PARTNER ON AS PART OF THAT AND
YOU KNOW HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
CUT OUT COLLABORATE WORK
TOGETHER ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES
SO THANK YOU. I AND STEVE
STRONGLY URGES I YOU ARE OUR
RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL
SENATE TO CONFIRM THESE
APPOINTEES THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH APPROPRIATE TESTIMONY
PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF A NEW
BOARD BEFORE THE SENATE RULES
COMMITTEE- SEEING NO FURTHER
SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT HERE
PHYSICALLY. WE'RE GOING TO GO
BACK TO OUR MODERATOR IN THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AGAIN THAT
NUMBER IS. EIGHT SEVEN SEVEN TWO
TWO SIX EIGHT ONE SIX THREE. THE
ACCESS CODE IS SEVEN THREE SIX
TWO EIGHT THREE FOUR. OF
MODERATOR WELCOME BACK AND WOULD
YOU LIKE TO T. AT. THOSE WHO
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR LITTLE DOING SO
COMMONSENSE. OVER THE PRESS ONE.
BECAUSE WITH A LINE. AND YOU
LINE NUMBERS CALLED PLEASE STATE
YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION FOR
THE LEGISLATIVE RECORD ONCE
AGAIN TO QUEUE UP FOR COMMENT ON
THIS ITEM. PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
AT THIS TIME ONE MOMENT SURE WE
DO HAVE A COUPLE QUEUED UP
BECAUSE MY NUMBERS FOR YOU
SHORTLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
A REMINDER TO THE WITNESSES YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION IF ANY AND
JUST YOUR SUPPORT. BUT NOT-
EXTRA COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.
AND IF YOU WANNA REGISTER YOUR
SUPPORT FOR ALL THREE POLICE SAY
THAT OR IF YOU'RE CALLING FOR IN
A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL APPOINTEE.
GO. AHEAD AND GIVE THEIR NAME
THANK YOU. OUR FIRST COMICAL
LINE FOURTEEN FOURTEEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
RULES COMMITTEE AND WE SET
REACHED NUMBER OF THE PART OF
THE DEPARTMENT FACED HIM
LONGTIME MEMBER. AND BOARD
MEMBER WITH COMPUTERS FOR A
BETTER ENVIRONMENT AND I WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY
BOARD. MEMBER MAYBE SACRAMENTO
FIFTY COLLEAGUES. I REMEMBER
DECREASE SO STRUCK HARKER. WHICH
LOST YEAH AND I WOULD LIKE TO
GREATLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE
AND CONFIRM THEIR RESPECTIVE
APPOINTMENTS THAT EVERY MEMBER
OF OUR CORPORATE CIRCLES VERY
MUCH NEEDED LIVED EXPERIENCE
AND- PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE AND-
EVERY MEMBER REALLY COMPLETES US
AND WE'VE- SPENT SO MUCH THIS
YEAR AND I. I CAN'T- I CAN'T
PICTURE OF WITH ANYBODY ELSE
THANK YOU. ARE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. A NEXT WITNESS PLEASE. THE
MOST COMMON CAUSE FOR MY NUMBER
. LINE GO AHEAD PLEASE. ONE
MOMENT NINETEENTH. OKAY
APOLOGIES THERE WAS A DELAY IN
OPENING A LINE NINETEEN YOUR NOW
OPEN YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY THIS
IS THE BURDEN ON A RETIRED
ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS WITH
THE U. S. EPA. AND I'M IN
SUPPORT OF ALL THREE OF THESE
WONDERFUL- BOARD MEMBERS. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. OTHER WITNESSES.
LET THE LINE NUMBER SIXTEEN
POINT SIXTEEN YOU HAVE PLEASE.
HI COMMITTEE MEMBERS MIGHT
IMMATURE JEKYLL MANSION ON THE
SENATE APPOINTEE TO THE B. S.
BOB FORD. AND I AM AND STRONG
SUPPORTER ALL THREE FIERCE WOMAN
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS GOMEZ
OUR- NEXT WITNESS. WE HAVE NO
OTHER CALLERS IN THE QUEUE TO
ADDRESS THIS YEAR THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU
MOMENTARILY. OKAY WE WILL BRING
IT BACK INTO THE ROOM HERE
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. OKAY SEEING
NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION- MISTER MODERATOR
WILL COME BACK TO YOU TO TEAR UP
THE LAWN FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK. IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU MEDICARE FOR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME WHAT TO CAN BE
PROVIDED WITH YOUR LINE NUMBER.
PRESS ONE ZERO Q. A PROPOSITION
. THE MANAGER WITH LOW
RESPONDENTS Q. LET ME THANK YOU
FOR YOUR HELP TODAY WE
APPRECIATE IT GREATLY SO LET ME
BRING IT BACK TO MY- SENATORS-
FOR A MOTION. AND MEADOW VICE
CHAIR ALL THREE ALL THREE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OF. MADAM
SECRETARY WE CALL THE ROLL
LAYERED HI THERE TO HIDE OR SHOW
BOOK I WAS TOLD I SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS FIVE FULL CRITICIZED
GROWTH HIGH GROWTH AYE ATKINS
AYE CAPTAINS AYE. UNANIMOUS THAT
IS- AN INCREDIBLE THING THANK
YOU FOR YOUR CONVERSATION TODAY
TO ALL OF YOUR SUPPORTERS AND
THOSE WHO WERE HERE- WE WILL
FORWARD THESE NAMES ON TO THE
FULL SENATE FOR FULL
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH
. BEST OF LUCK. OKAY FIVE WE ALL
DO OF THANK YOU. IT WAS A
PLEASURE. OKAY THIS IS GOING TO
CONCLUDE TODAY'S PUBLIC PORTION
OF THE AGENDA I WANT TO THANK
ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO TOOK
THE TIME TO BE HERE TODAY AND
PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC TESTIMONY
AND THOSE OF COURSE ALSO ON.
TELECONFERENCE IF YOU WEREN'T
ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY PLEASE
SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING TO THE
RULES COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR
WEBSITE FOR INSTRUCTIONS. YOUR
COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE
VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND WE WANT
TO INCLUDE THAT TESTIMONY IN THE
OFFICIAL HEARING RECORD. SO WITH
THAT LET ME SAY THANK YOU
EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
YOUR COOPERATION THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON RULES WILL NOW
MOVES TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.