ALL RIGHT. THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY WILL COME TO ORDER
. GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON,
RATHER AS WE CONTINUE TO TAKE
SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISK OF SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
TO OUR HEARINGS THAT PROVIDE
ACCESS TO BOTH IN PERSON
TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ALL
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENTS, PARTICIPANT TO
FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODES
POSTED OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE
WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN
AND I WILL ANNOUNCE IT NOW.
TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS
844 T 9163 64 THE ACCESS CODE
IS 14111. FOR DETAILED
STRUCTURES ON HOW THE
TELECONFERENCE SYSTEM WORKS.
PLEASE REFER TO THE SENATE
JUDICIARY WEBSITES. MAINTAINING
THE QUORUM DURING THE HEARING IS
CUSTOMER INDIVIDUAL WHO IS
DISRUPTED MAY BE REMOVED FROM
THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE OR
HAVE THEIR CONNECTION MUTED.
WE'RE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARING HERE IN THE STREET
BUILDING. I ASK ALL MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE TO COME TO ROOM
1200 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUARRYMEN BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE
HAVE TWO BILLS BEFORE US TODAY.
PURSUANT TO SENATE RULE 29.10
SUB D. SB 107 BY SENATOR WEINER
AND SB TWO. EXCUSE ME. STRIKE
THAT SB 5 TO 3 BY SENATOR LEYVA
WILL BEFORE US BE BEFORE US
TODAY'S BILLS. I WOULD LIKE TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM, BUT WE ARE
LACKING SOME MEMBERS. SO UM,
THAT OBJECTION. WHY DON'T WE
MOVE FORWARD AS A SUBCOMMITTEE?
I SEE SENATOR LEYVA IS HERE,
SENATOR LEGAL LIVER IF YOU CARE
TO PRESENT SB. UM 23 THAT ONE
TOO? YES THIS THAT WOULD BE
GREAT. GOOD WELL, THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS.
SP 5 23, KNOWN AS THE
CONTRACEPTIVE EQUITY ACT OF 2022
PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE
APPROACH TO ENSURING GREATER
EQUITY IN CALIFORNIA WHILE
SAVING HEALTHCARE COSTS AND
PROTECTING WORKERS FROM
DISCRIMINATION FROM ANTI CHOICE
EMPLOYERS SPECIFICALLY, SP 5 23
WILL UPDATE CONTRACEPTIVE EQUITY
LAW TO BE GENDER INCLUSIVE BY
REMOVING COPAYS AND COST SHARE.
RING FOR BISECT AMIS REQUIRE
COVERAGE FOR OVER THE COUNTER
BIRTH CONTROL METHODS WITHOUT A
PRESCRIPTION, EXPAND THE REACH
OF CONTRACEPTIVE COVERAGE
REQUIREMENTS. TO MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS, INCLUDING STATE
WORKERS, UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEES
AND COLLEGE STUDENTS PROHIBIT
EMPLOYERS FROM DISCRIMINATING
AGAINST THEIR EMPLOYEES BASED ON
THEIR REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH
DECISIONS. DECISIONS NOW IS THE
TIME TO MODERNIZE AND EXPAND OUR
COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY LAWS, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
HERE TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT IS
KATHY MOSSBERG, REPRESENTING
ESSENTIAL ACCESS HEALTH, AND I'M
NOT SURE IF AARON EVANS OUT
THERE, ERIN HERE, ALSO FOOD AND
REPRESENTING NARAL PRO CHOICE,
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
ALREADY. THANK YOU GO AHEAD,
MA'AM CHAIR AND MEMBERS KATHY
MOSSBERG, REPRESENTING ESSENTIAL
ACCESS HEALTH, ONE OF THE CO
SPONSORS WITH THE RECENT SUPREME
COURT RULING OVERTURNING ROE V.
WADE WE FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE
IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT EXPANDING
ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL, AND WE
THINK CALIFORNIA IS ALWAYS SEEN
AS A LEADER HERE. WE THINK THAT
WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL IS
DOING. ON THE AMENDMENTS WE'VE
TAKEN IN THE RECENT SORT OF
PULLED BACK HERE AS WE'VE TAKEN
AMENDMENTS TO SATISFY CONCERNS
OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALSO
CHAPTER, RING OUT LANGUAGE AS
WELL AND THEN PUT FORWARD SOME
DATES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TIME TO
PUT THIS INTO PLACE. HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
THEM, BUT URGED HER I VOTE ON
THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M AARON
EVANS ON BEHALF OF NARAL PRO
CHOICE, CALIFORNIA, CO SPONSOR
OF THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE. WE
STRONGLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT TODAY
AS CALIFORNIA HAS STOOD STRONG
ON CONTRACEPTION, CONTRACEPTIVE
EQUITY AND CONTRACEPTION.
SERVICES AND WE REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF B 5
23 FEUD COME FORWARD YOUR NAME
YOUR AFFILIATION YOUR POSITION.
HI MOLLY ROBSON WITH PLANNED
PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIA WERE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
IRISH STEINBERG WITH THE
CALIFORNIA NURSES A MIDWIFE
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ALRIGHT SAYING NO ONE ELSE
APPROACHES THE MICROPHONE
MODERATE. LET'S TURN TO THE
PHONES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT OF SB 5 23. THANK YOU.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF SB 5 23, PLEASE PRESS
ONES AND ZEROS ON YOUR TELEPHONE
KEYPAD. YOU MAY REMOVE YOURSELF
PRESSING THE 10 AGAIN. ONCE
AGAIN TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AND ONE MOMENT WHILE WE GET THE
FIRST NUMBERS. AND WE WILL START
WITH LINE. 67 PLEASE GO AHEAD
MODERATED BEFORE WE START WITH
THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF 5 23
ON THE PHONE LINE. LET ME JUST
GO AHEAD AND RESTATE THE GROUND
RULES HERE ON EACH OF THESE
BILLS WILL PERMIT TO WITNESSES
TWO MINUTES EACH. IN SUPPORT, AS
WELL AS TWO WITNESSES TWO
MINUTES EACH IN OPPOSITION. THEN
WE'LL TURN TO THOSE WHO ARE IN
THE CHAMBER TO BE ABLE TO GIVE
US THEIR NAME, THEIR AFFILIATION
THE POSITION AND THEN WE'LL GO
TO PHONE LINES FOR THE SAME
THING. NAME, AFFILIATION AND
POSITION. HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING
TO LIMIT THE TESTIMONY. WE
REFERRED TO AS ME TO TESTIMONY
ON THE PHONE PHONE LINE TO 15
MINUTES FOR EACH SIDE 15 MINUTES
SUPPORT 15 MINUTES. OPPOSITION
ALRIGHT. MODERATE. LET'S GO
AHEAD AND GO TO THE PHONE LINE
FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT OF SB 5 23.
YES THANK YOU. WHO WILL START
WITH LINE? 67 PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI MY NAME IS BRENDA VILLANUEVA
AND I AM WITH THE LOS ANGELES
CENTER AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORTED
THE 5 23. THANK YOU IN ONE
MOMENT HERE. THANKS. WE WILL GO
TO. SIGN NUMBER 86, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES UM JOHN LOVELL ON
BEHALF OF THE COALITION OF
PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS SUPPORT
SYSTEMS IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB
5 23. THANK YOU. AND NEXT, WE
HAVE LINE 68, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
CRAMER MATTER ON BEHALF OF A
SCALE YOU CALIFORNIA ACTION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS
ALL THAT I HAD IN. Q ALREADY,
LET'S TURN TO THE OPPOSITION.
THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO SP 5 23
. I DON'T SEE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES LISTED IN OPPOSITION.
HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE AN
OPPOSITION, PLEASE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE. IF YOU HERE IN ROOM
1200 SEEING NO ONE APPROACHING,
MY PHONE MUST TURN TO THE PHONE
LINES FOR OPPOSITION. TWO SB 5
23 MODERATOR. IF YOU WOULD QUÊ,
THOSE UP WILL PERMIT TO
WITNESSES TWO MINUTES EACH.
THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF SP 5
23, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO.
THAT IS ONE, THEN ZERO ON YOUR
TELEPHONE KEYPAD. AND I HAVE NO
ONE IN QUÊ. ALRIGHT BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS
BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'LL JUST
WIECKOWSKI INDUSTRY MARKET MAKES
SENSE, MOVING THE MAKING A CODE
CHANGES FROM THE LABOR CODE TO
THE FAIR EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING
CODE. THIS IS STAFF REPORT
BRILLIANTLY POINTS OUT THAT IT'S
YOU DON'T HAVE A DUAL SYSTEM
WHEN THE LABOR CODE WOULD JUST
CIVIL RIGHTS. UM SO THAT SEEMS
TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY QUITE
CLEAR AND I'LL MOVE TO BILL IF
IT'S APPROPRIATE, MR CHAIR, WE
AGREE AND THANK YOU IF THERE WAS
A QUORUM, ALRIGHT. OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS SAYING NONE.
CERTAIN LEAVING CLOTHES.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ESTABLISH
A QUORUM, ASSUME THAT EMOTION
WILL BE MADE WILL ASK FOR THE
VOTE. OKAY THANK YOU. IF WE
COULD LET SENATOR WIENER KNOW
THAT HE MAY PRESENT HIS BILL
UPON ARRIVAL HERE IN ROOM 1200.
I UNDERSTAND. HE'S AN E Q RIGHT
NOW. ALL RIGHT. YES. SIX O'CLOCK
WARM FROM YES
.
YES. OKAY?
YEAH. IT'S ALSO.
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. MADAM
SECRETARY IF YOU CALL THE ROLE
FOR PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING A
QUORUM HAMBURG, HAMBURG HERE
GORGEOUS PRESIDENT GORGEOUS
PRESIDENT CABALLERO RUSSELL
HERE. GRASSO HERE. GONZALEZ
HERZBERG JONES JONES. HERE,
LAIRD HERE HERE, STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI HERE.
WIENER PRESENT. YOU HAVE A
QUORUM WILL MOVE. SB 5 TO 3
LEYVA AND CONTRACEPTIVE EQUITY.
ALRIGHT WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE
VOTE AFTER WE HAVE SENATOR
WIENER DO HIS PRESENTATION SP 17
JUST TO BRIEFLY REVIEW THE
BIDDING WITH RESPECT TO
WITNESSES TO WITNESSES ON EACH
SIDE. TWO MINUTES EACH AND THEN
FOR SUPPORTING OPPOSITION. THE
ME TOO. TESTIMONY 15 MINUTES
MAXIMUM ON THE PHONE. I HAVE
EMOTIONS, SO I HAVE TO GO AHEAD
. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION. SORRY
SENATOR LEYVA'S SB. 523 MADAM
SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE
ROLL BOX, THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO SB 5 TO 3 BY SENATOR
LEYVA. THE MOTION IS THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN HAMBURG. GORGEOUS OR JUST
KNOW CORDERO. THE RUSSELL
GONZALES HERZBERG. JONES JONES.
NO LAIRD, I STERN WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI. AYE, WIENER, I YOU
HAVE 5 TO 2 WITH MEMBERS
MISSING. ALRIGHT WE'LL PUT THAT
ON CALL. ALL RIGHT, SENATOR
WIENER SP 107. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN AND I WANT TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE AND STAFFED
FOR THE THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF
THIS BILL. SP ONE. OH, SEVEN IS
BACK ON CONCURRENCE AFTER THE
HOUSE OF ORIGIN DEADLINE TO
INTRODUCE BILLS IN THIS BODY,
THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, TEXAS,
ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
INDICATING THAT IF A PARENT
ALLOWS THEIR CHILD TO RECEIVE
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE THAT WOULD
BE CONSIDERED CHILD ABUSE UNDER
STATE LAW AND THE CHILD WOULD BE
REMOVED FROM THE HOUSEHOLD PUT
IN FOSTER CARE AND THE PARENT
WOULD BE CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED.
THIS STARTED A CHAIN REACTION,
AS IS SO OFTEN THE CASE WITH
TRANSPHOBIC AND HOMOPHOBIC RED
STATE LEGISLATION. WHERE QUICKLY
ALABAMA AND OTHER STATES
INTRODUCED LEGISLATION AND SOME
OF IT PASSED IN ALABAMA. THE LAW
INDICATES THAT A APPARENT
CONSENTING TO A CHILD RECEIVING
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE IS GUILTY
OF A FELONY PUNISHABLE BY UP TO
10 YEARS IN PRISON. IN ADDITION
, THE PHYSICIAN WOULD BE SUBJECT
TO CRIMINAL PENALTY. OF 10 YEARS
IN PRISON, SO WE IMMEDIATELY
WENT TO WORK. HOW CAN WE PUSH
BACK AND MAKE CLEAR THAT
CALIFORNIA IS NOT GOING TO BE A
PARTY TO THESE LAWS? AND THAT IS
WHERE SP ONE OH, SEVEN CAME FROM
, UM, THIS BILL DOES A FEW
THINGS AND IT'S GENERAL JUST TO
SEND A SIGNAL. TRANS KIDS AND
THEIR FAMILIES THAT IF THEY DO
NOT FEEL SAFE OR REPAIR UNDER
ATTACK OR THREAT OF CRIMINAL
PROSECUTION IN THEIR HOME STATES
BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED THEIR CHILD
TO RECEIVE GENDER AFFIRMING CARE
THAT THEY CAN COME TO CALIFORNIA
, AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE ARE
LEGALLY ABLE TO DO TO GIVE THEM
REFUGE AND TO PROTECT THEM, AND
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BECOME AN ARM
OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OF THE STATE
OF TEXAS OR ALABAMA. OR OTHER
STATES, SO THE BILL DOES A FEW
THINGS FOR SO IT MAKES CLEAR
THAT CALIFORNIA COURTS ARE GOING
TO DO WHEN THERE ARE IN THESE
KINDS OF SITUATIONS. WE'RE GOING
TO APPLY OUR OWN LAW. AND NOT
THE LAW OF THESE JUST ABUSIVE,
DESPICABLE LAWS FROM THESE OTHER
STATES. WE ARE NOT GOING TO
SUBPOENAS FROM THOSE STATES. FOR
EXAMPLE, MEDICAL RECORDS
RELATING TO GENDER AFFIRMING
CARE IN ORDER IF OF SUBPOENAS,
ARTIFICE, SILLITOE DATE THOSE
LAWS AND A CRIMINAL OR CIVIL
CONTEXT. AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
UNLESS IT IS CONSTANT UNLESS WE
ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED IN
TERMS OF EXTRADITION, THAT WE
ARE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE
FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT
PERSPECTIVE IN ENFORCING THE
LAWS ARE THESE OTHER STATES AND
THAT IT WILL BE THE PRIORITIZED
IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT PARTICIPATION. WE
HAVE A BROAD COALITION BEHIND
THE BILL. THE BILL IS CO
SPONSORED BY A QUALITY
CALIFORNIA AND PLANNED
PARENTHOOD. WE ARE THERE ARE AN
ENORMOUS NUMBER OF LGBTQ YOUTH
AND PARTICULARLY TRANS YOUTH
THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE
LITERALLY IN A STATE OF TERROR
RIGHT NOW, WHEN THEY SEE THAT
POWERFUL ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE
BASICALLY DENYING THEIR
EXISTENCE AND ARE SIGNALING TO
THESE CHILDREN THAT BECAUSE OF
WHO YOU ARE. WE'RE PUTTING YOU
IN FOSTER CARE AND YOUR PARENTS
ARE GOING TO PRISON. AND IS IT
ANY WONDER THAT THE RATES OF
SUICIDE OR SO HIGH AMONG THESE
KIDS AND THAT'S WHY IT'S
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR
CALIFORNIA TO STAND UP AND SAY
THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A
PARTY TO THAT, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE? NO. ALRIGHTY UM, IN
SUPPORT. WE HAVE. VOLUNTEER WITH
ME TODAY. MY APOLOGIES. MR
TESTIFY ARE TOMMY MARTIN FROM
QUALITY CALIFORNIA AND ON THE
PHONE KATHY MUEHLEGG FROM TRANS
FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES. ALRIGHT
TOMMY MARTIN FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU. CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TOMMY MARTIN ON BEHALF
OF EQUALITY, CALIFORNIA WE'RE
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB 107. AND
FOR MANY MONTHS WE HAVE WORKED
DILIGENTLY ON THIS BILL, WHICH
IS BOTH HIGHLY FUNCTIONAL AND
HIGHLY SYMBOLIC. IN TERMS OF THE
FUNCTION. NO DOUBT YOU HAVE READ
IN THE NEWS, THE EXTENT TO WHICH
LEGISLATURES AND POLITICIANS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE WORKING
TO INVALIDATE AND REPRESSED
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE AND THE
FAMILIES AND DOCTORS WHO SUPPORT
THEM. THESE ATTEMPTS ARE PART OF
A BROADER EFFORT TO INVALIDATE
MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS AND ROB
PEOPLE OVER AUTONOMY OVER THEIR
OWN LIVES AND THEIR OWN BODIES.
AS THE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS
RIGHTLY NOTES, MANY OF THESE
ANTI TRANS LAWS AND POLICIES ARE
NOT LIMITED IN GEOGRAPHIC SCOPE
. WHICH IS WHY SP ONE OH, SEVEN
SERVES THE CRITICAL FUNCTION OF
ENSURING AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
CALIFORNIA WILL NOT ENABLE OTHER
STATES TO PUNISH PEOPLE WHO ARE
IN OUR STATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
OBTAINING GENDER AFFIRMING CARE,
WHICH IS LAWFUL HERE. BEYOND
WHAT THE BILL DOES. I ALSO WANT
TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THE BILL MEANS
AS AN LGBTQ PLUS PERSON, AND AS
ONE WHO WORKS IN THE LEGISLATIVE
SPACE. IT HAS BEEN HARD TO WATCH
LEADERS AND OTHER STATES USE
LEGISLATION AND POLICY TO HARM
MY COMMUNITY AND TO HURT MY
FRIENDS. WE CAN MEASURE THE HARM
THAT THESE POLITICAL DEBATES
HAVE ON LGBTQ, PLUS YOUTH AND
TRANS YOUTH IN PARTICULAR. ON
THE FLIP SIDE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT
THESE PRO QUALITY POLICIES HELP
TRANS YOUTH WHO NO SURPRISE FARE
BETTER WHEN THEIR COMMUNITIES
SUPPORT THEM RATHER THAN
LEGISLATE AGAINST THEM. THE ONE
OH, SEVEN IS A DEMONSTRATION OF
THAT SUPPORT, AND IT WILL HELP
SO IN CLOSING, WE ARE GRATEFUL
TO OUR MANY LEGAL AND COMMUNITY
PARTNERS WHO HAVE INFORMED THIS
EFFORT. AND SINCE THIS IS MY
LAST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE
RECORD ON THIS BILL, I ALSO WANT
TO THANK SENATOR WIENER FOR
LEADING ON THIS. HE HAS HAD
COURAGE WHEN WE HAVE BEEN AFRAID
AND HAS BEEN A TIRELESS CHAMPION
FOR THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY, SO
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT HE HAS JUST
AS TIRED AS WE ARE. SB ONE. OH,
SEVEN IS ALSO ALL OF THESE
THINGS AND MORE FOR OUR
COMMUNITY, SO WE ARE INCREDIBLY
PROUD TO CO SPONSOR AS P 107 AND
RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COMMITTEE
SUPPORT AS WELL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR MARTIN. ALRIGHT
UM, KATHY MULLIGAN. ARE YOU HERE
OR ON THE PHONE ON THE PHONE?
ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS KATHY MULLIGAN. SHE
HURT HER ARM, MY PRONOUNS AND
THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF TRANS FAMILY SUPPORT
SERVICES AND THE PARENTS OF A
TRANS BUTTE. WHILE WE'RE BASED
IN SAN DIEGO, WE SERVED OVER
3000 TRANSFUSED AND THEIR
FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH
THE CHAPTER IN ALABAMA RECENTLY
, ALABAMA PASSED A LAW THAT
CRIMINALIZES TRANSIT FIRMING
CARE FOR THOSE 19 AND UNDER. AS
YOU KNOW, ALABAMA IS NOT THE
ONLY STATE WITH THIS HARMFUL
LEGISLATION. THIS WAS
DEVASTATING FOR USED IN FAMILIES
, THE RATE OF ANXIETY,
DEPRESSION OF PARLIAMENT
SUICIDE. ASIAN AMONG THIS
POPULATION IS SO VERY HIGH.
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T
ACCESS APPROPRIATE MEDICAL CARE,
WHICH IS THE ONLY TREATMENT FOR
GENDER VICTORIA AS THE PARENTS
OF THE TRANSFUSED COULDN'T FIND
ANY MEDICAL CARE OVER A DECADE
AGO, IN IN DIEGO, I KNOW THE
FEELING OF HOPELESSNESS AND
HELPLESSNESS. I WATCHED HER
ALABAMA FAMILY STRUGGLE AT A
RECENT ZOOM MEETING, TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO
NEXT TO KEEP THEIR KIDS ON THEIR
MEDICALLY NECESSARY TREATMENT.
EVEN IF IT MEANS TAVELING TO
DIFFERENT STATES FOR EVEN
MOVING. SOME STATES HAVE GONE AS
FAR AS TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE
PARENTS TRAVELING TO OTHER
STATES FOR THIS CARE. PARENTS
FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES IS
CURRENTLY SERVING MANY FAMILIES
AFFECTED BY THIS HATEFUL
LEGISLATION. SEVERAL OF THESE
FAMILIES ARE ALREADY CONNECTING
WITH US MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA TO TREAT
THEIR YOUTH AND OTHERS HAVE EVEN
MOVED TO CALIFORNIA ALREADY. I
KNOW I WOULD HAVE GONE ANYWHERE
AND STOP AT NOTHING TO GET MY
CHILD LIFE CHANGING AND LIFE
SAVING CARE. CERTAINLY
APPROXIMATELY 56,000 TRANSFUSED
ARE LIVING IN STATES THAT MAY
LOSE THIS MEDICAL CARE WILL
BRING COMFORT AND COMPLEMENT
THOSE VERY VULNERABLE FAMILIES
HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO A PAINTER
USE MEDICAL TREATMENT. TODAY. I
BRING THE VOICES OF THOUSANDS OF
TRANS YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES
AS A CO SPONSOR OF THIS BILL,
AND TO URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE
ONE OH, SEVEN. GIVE THEM THE
NEEDED RELEASE PAIN CARE IN
CALIFORNIA WITHOUT HERE.
TRANSGENDER YOUTH DESERVES FULL
AND HAPPY LIFE. PLEASE PROTECT
THEM. ALREADY. THANK YOU, MISS
MARLOWE. MORE MOLDING. AH NEXT,
THOSE WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF SB 107. IF YOU WOULD
APPROACH MY PHONE, GIVE US YOUR
NAME YOUR AFFILIATION OF YOUR
POSITION MEMBERS CATALINA
SANCHEZ WITH CORBYN AND KAISER
ON BEHALF OF THE ELECTRONIC
FRONTIER FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI MOLLY
ROBSON WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
AFFILIATES OF CALIFORNIA, WHERE
A CO SPONSOR AND STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. YES. HI EVAN MINTON,
A TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUAL AND THE
CO CHAIR OF THE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR'S TRANSGENDER ADVISORY
COUNCIL HERE, IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE. THANK
YOU. HELLO GENESIS. GONZALEZ ON
BEHALF OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR,
LENNIE COULD'VE LAKIS AS A PROUD
CO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS.
KATHY MOSSBERG WITH THE CENTRAL
ACCESS HEALTH AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. HELLO HERE ON BEHALF OF SAN
MATEO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. IRISH STEINBERG ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA NURSES AND
MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AARON EVANS ON BEHALF
OF NARAL PRO CHOICE CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT. THANKS THANK YOU
SAYING NO ONE ELSE APPROACHED
THE MICROPHONE MONTEREY LET'S
TURN TO THE PHONE LINES AS I
MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET, 15
MINUTES FOR EACH SIDE OF ME TO
TESTIMONY ON THE PHONE. THANK
YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO
SPEAK AND SUPPORTIVE AS THE ONE
ON SEVEN, PLEASE PRESS 10. AND
FIRST WE'LL GO WITH FLYING 87.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. BOTH PROBABLY
HALF OF A REALLY HELP FROM
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 9
68, PLEASE GO AHEAD. CRAMER
MATTER AND WE HAVE TODAY. SYRIAN
CALIFORNIA ACTION AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
MODERATE OR ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT. MODERATOR. TESTING 123.
MODERATOR YOU WITH US. ALL
RIGHT, UM. IF WE'RE HAVING
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WHY
DON'T WE PAUSE THE SUPPORT ON
THE PHONE LINE, AND WE'LL COME
BACK TO SUPPORT ON THE PHONE
LINE? UM AND THEN TURN TO
OPPOSITION. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE
HAVE TWO WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION CHLOE COAL AND AARON
FRIDAY THAT ARE HERE. I'M TOLD
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM.
ALRIGHT SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO
IS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE
TWO OF YOU TWO MINUTES EACH. UM
AND THEN IF WE ARE RECONNECTED,
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE
PHONE LINES TO FINISH SUPPORT.
FOR SB ONE OF SEVEN, THEN COME
BACK TO OPPOSITION. SO FLOOR IS
YOURS. GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
CHLOE COLE. I'M 18. AND MY STORY
IS NOT HYPERBOLE. STARTING
AROUND THE AGE OF 12. I BEGAN TO
BELIEVE THAT WAS TRANSGENDER.
THIS BELIEF WAS NOT ORGANIC. ALL
THE MEDIA I CONSUMED AS A KID
SHOWED ME HOW STUPID AND
VULNERABLE BEING A GIRL WAS ALL
THE SEXUALIZED IMAGES OF WOMEN
BEING UNREALISTIC EXPECTATION OF
WOMANHOOD. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME
ONLINE. AND QUICKLY SAW THE
PRAISE COMING OUT AS TRANS GOT
ON INSTAGRAM AND OTHER SOCIAL
MEDIA. I WAS A BIT AWKWARD IN
SCHOOL AND HAD SOME TROUBLE
MAKING FRIENDS. LIKE MANY JUST
FOR CHILDREN. I ALSO SUFFER FROM
A VARIETY OF MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITIONS SO EASILY FELL PREY
TO THE NARRATIVE THAT IF I FELT
DIFFERENT AND DID NOT WANT TO BE
A HIGHLY SEXUALIZED GIRL, IT
MUST BE A BOY. I OBSESSED OVER
BECOMING A BOY. I BELIEVE THAT
ALL MY INSECURITIES AND
ANXIETIES WOULD MAGICALLY
DISAPPEAR ONCE I TRANSITIONED.
THE MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS
DID NOT TRY TO DISSUADE ME OF
THIS DELUSIONAL BELIEF. I WAS
FAST TRACKED INTO MEDICAL
TRANSITION AFTER I WAS DIAGNOSED
WITH THIS FOR YOU. IN CALIFORNIA
. A CHILD CAN PICK THEIR GENDER
IDENTITY AND A CARE PROVIDER
QUESTIONING THAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED CONVERSION THERAPY.
THIS WASN'T DIAGNOSED IN
MISDIAGNOSIS. IT WAS
MISTREATMENT. MY PARENTS WERE
TOLD THAT THE OPTIONS WERE
TRANSITION OR SUICIDE. THEY
COMPLIED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT
OFFERED ANY OTHER TREATMENT
SOLUTION FOR MY DISTRESS.
DISTRAUGHT PARENTS WANTED ME
ALIVE, SO LISTEN TO MY DOCTORS.
I WAS PLACED ON PUBERTY,
BLOCKERS AND TESTOSTERONE AFTER
EXPRESSING MY GENERATORS, FORIA
TO MY THERAPIST, AND I WAS
APPROVED FOR A DOUBLE MASTECTOMY
ALL BY THE AGE OF 15. NO ONE
EXPLORED. WHY DID NOT WANT TO BE
A GIRL? MORE AND MORE KIDS ARE
FALLING FOR THE FALSE PROMISE OF
HAPPINESS IF THEY TRANSITION
GENERAL CLINICS IN THE US ARE
TURNING A BLIND EYE TO EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES OR PUMPING THE BRAKES
ON THIS EXPERIMENT ON YOUTH. WHO
HERE REALLY BELIEVES THAT AS A
15 YEAR OLD. I SHOULD HAVE HAD
MY HEALTHY BREASTS REMOVED OR
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPTION
ON THE CD PH. SCOTT LESS THAN
300 REPORTS OF PEOPLE GETTING
HOSPITALIZED AS A RESULT OF
BATHING. SAN FRANCISCO BAND VAPE
PRODUCTS THAT SAME YEAR, SO I
KNOW THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THE
HEALTH OF CHILDREN. YET YOU'RE
ALLOWING DOCTORS ALL OVER THE
STATE TO REMOVE THE HEALTHY
BREAST OF CHILDREN. HOW MANY
MORE CHILDREN'S BODIES WILL BE
DESTROYED BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY
LISTEN? WHAT IS THE SWEET SPOT?
102 100,000. THE ONE WHO SEVEN
WILL OPEN THE FLOODGATES FOR
CONFUSED CHILDREN LIKE ME TO GET
THE GENDER INTERVENTIONS THAT
MANY SO REGRET. AND THE CANARY
IN THE COAL MINE. THANK YOU.
FRIDAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M AN
ATTORNEY. MY DAUGHTER THOUGHT
THAT SHE WAS TRANSGENDER FOR TWO
YEARS BUT CHANGED HER MIND.
THANKFULLY, I DID NOT MEDICALIZE
HER. CALIFORNIA WANTED TO
PROVIDE A REFUGE FOR ONLY
FAMILIES THAT UNANIMOUSLY AGREED
GENDER INTERVENTIONS, IT DID NOT
NEED TO AMEND THE FAMILY CODE.
FAMILY CODE SECTION 34 21 D
PROVIDES THE PRESENCE OF A CHILD
IN THIS STATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
OBTAINING GENDER AFFIRMING
HEALTHCARE IS SUFFICIENT TO GIVE
CALIFORNIA COURTS THE RIGHT TO
MAKE INITIAL CUSTODY
DETERMINATION. OUT OF STATE
CHILD GETS TO CALIFORNIA,
CALIFORNIA DECIDES WHICH PARENT
IF ANY, GETS CUSTODY. NORMALLY
PURSUANT TO THE INTERSTATE
COMPACT FOR JUVENILES.
CALIFORNIA COURTS WOULD SEND
THAT CHILD BACK TO HER HOME
STATE. THIS LAW ENTICES MINORS
SEEKING GENDER INTERVENTIONS
AGAINST THEIR PARENTS' WISHES TO
RUN AWAY TO CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA SECTION 34 20, OR
FAMILY CODE SECTION 34. 24 A
STATES. A COURT OF THIS STATE
HAS TEMPORARY EMERGENCY
JURISDICTION IF THE CHILD IS
PRESENT IN THIS STATE BECAUSE
THE CHILD HAS BEEN UNABLE TO
OBTAIN GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. SO
IF PARENTS DISAGREE ON WHETHER
OR NOT TO PERMIT THEIR 14 YEAR
OLD DAUGHTER TO HAVE HER BREASTS
REMOVED AND THE ASSENTING PARENT
AND CHILD ARRIVES IN CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA WILL DECIDE WHICH
PARENT GETS CUSTODY. PARENTS
KNOW WHO WILL WIN THAT BATTLE.
PURSUANT TO FAMILY CODE 34 28.
IT IS NOTKIDNAPPING IF THE NON
CUSTODIAL PARENT ABSCONDS WITH
THE GENDER CONFUSED CHILD TO
CALIFORNIA. THIS IS THE PLAIN
LANGUAGE OF SB ONE. OH, SEVEN.
ASK SENATOR WIENER HOW THE LAW
AFFECTS OUT OF STATE PARENTS WHO
DISAGREE ABOUT SUBJECTING THEIR
CHILD TO MEDICAL TREATMENTS WHEN
ONE PARENT GETS TO CALIFORNIA.
ASK HIM IF THE LAW PERMITS
CALIFORNIA IGNORE OUT OF STATE.
OUT OF STATE CUSTODY AGREEMENTS
. ASK HIM WHAT WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED TO MY CHILD. IF MY
HUSBAND WANTED TO MEDICALIZE
HER. ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WELL, NOW TURN BACK TO THE
PHONE LINES IF THE PHONE LINES
ARE NOW INTACT FOR THOSE IN
SUPPORT OF SB 107. MODERATOR,
ARE YOU PRESENT? MODERATOR. ALL
RIGHT. WELL YES, I AM HERE IT'LL
BE LINE 68, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.
BUT. AND, UM, I APOLOGIZE. THE
NEXT LINE WILL BE LINED 92. HI
THIS IS BERNABE AND WITH THE
LOSS ANGELES LGBT CENTER, AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT SEVEN. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND
THEIR NEXT LINE WILL BE 86. YES
JOHN LOVELL ON BEHALF OF THE
COALITION OF PUBLIC SAFETY
OFFICER SUPPORT SERVICES IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL 107.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND WE WILL
GO TO LINE 78. HI MY NAME IS
CASSIDY. WORLD GENDER FIRMING
CARE SAVED MY LIFE. IT IS NOT
NEW. IT IS NOT EXPERIMENTAL.
LIKE YOUR NAME YOUR AFFILIATION
IN YOUR POSITION. CASSIDY WELLS
. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
THIS, BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AND WE'LL GO TO THE LINE 76.
THIS IS SARAH THOMAS AND
FRANCISCO ITS FOUNDATION AND
SUPPORTED HIMSELF. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND WE'LL
GO TO LINE 104. HMM. 104 YEAR
LINE. IT'S OPEN. AND THERE ARE
NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q ALL RIGHT
NOW. NOW WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO
THOSE IN OPPOSITION HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM, SO IF YOU'RE AN
OPPOSITION TO SB 107, PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. SAYING
NO ONE SAYING ONE PERSON
APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE.
HELLO, EVERYONE. JONATHAN KELLER
, WITH CALIFORNIA FAMILY COUNCIL
. RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR A NO
VOTE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SAYING
NO ONE ELSE APPROACHES
MICROPHONE. LET'S TURN TO THE
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WHO ARE
OPPOSED TO SB 107. AND WE WILL
GO TO THE LINE OF 99. OUR LINE
IS OPEN. 90 NICE. YES I'M A
PSYCHIATRIST. AND HAVE FROM YOUR
NAME, YOUR AFFILIATION AND YOUR
POSITION. SURE MY NAME IS JOHN
RAINEY. PSYCHIATRIST AND I HAVE
CONCERNS. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT CALLER. THANK YOU AND OUR
NEXT LINE WILL BE 88. LINE 88.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. WE WOULD GO
TO LINE ONE. EXCUSE ME. WE'LL GO
TO LINE 84. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HELLO? YES, GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
OKSANA. I AM A MOTHER OF THE
CHILD AND I OPPOSED THIS
HORRIBLE AND POORLY WRITTEN,
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND
OUR NEXT LINE WILL BE 104. LINE
104. IS THIS ME? YES, IT IS.
OKAY THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LYDIA
MCGLAUGHLIN FROM SANTA CREATE A
CALIFORNIA TRANSGENDER USED
STRONGLY OPPOSED THAT YOU WANNA
SEVEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES AT
THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
YES, CENTER WIECKOWSKI. I AM
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BALANCE
BETWEEN THE FULL FAITH AND
CREDIT CLAUSE IN THE EXTRADITION
CLAUSE. IF I HAVE A COUPLE OF
EXAMPLES, IF I COULD GET AN
ANSWER, IT SEEMS TO ME AND I
UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGING ON THIS
FOR THE IMPACT THE SYMBOLIC
AFFECTED THIS WOULD HAVE, EVEN
IF SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE
DETERMINED TO NOT BE ENFORCEABLE
. IT SEEMS TO ME CLEAR THAT IF
YOU'RE A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER IN
CALIFORNIA, AND A YOUTH COMES
INTO CALIFORNIA, AND A DOCTOR'S
GIVING ADVICE IN THE IN THE
ACTIVITIES HAVING CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA'S LAWS PROTECT THAT
SO ACTIONS BY OTHER STATES TO
SUBPOENA RECORDS AND PULL OUT UM
AND EXTRADITE POOR PEOPLE OUT TO
BE PROSECUTED IN TEXAS OR
SOMEPLACE THE AT LEAST STAFF
REPORT INDICATES THAT WE'RE ON
PRETTY FIRM GROUND. WOULD YOU
AGREE WITH THAT? I THINK SO. BUT
I'LL BE HONEST AND THIS IS ONE
OF THE REASONS WHY THIS BILL IS
SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WE'RE
SEEING ALL THESE DIFFERENT LAWS
IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMS
GETTING PAST. AND THESE OTHER
STATES. SOME ARE BEING PUT ON
HOLD BY THE COURTS. THERE BEING
APPEALED, ETCETERA. WE DON'T
KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO SHAKE OUT
AND SOME OF THESE LAWS AND WE'RE
SEEING IT IN THE ABORTION
CONTEXT TO WHAT THEY'RE
PROPOSING ISTO BE ABLE TO REACH
INTO THE OTHER STATES. ANOTHER
WORDS, IF YOU WHETHER IT'S
AROUND ABORTION OR GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE, LEAVE THE STATE
AS A RESIDENT TO GO TO THE OTHER
STATE TO DO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE,
SAYING THAT IF A PARENT TAKES
HER CHILD ACROSS STATE LINES
EVEN THOUGH THE ACTUAL MEDICAL
PROCEDURES THE STATE THAT THAT
IS A FELONY IN THE HOME STATE.
THERE WILL BE A LEGAL FIGHT
ABOUT THAT, OF COURSE, AND I
DON'T I DON'T THINK THEY CAN DO
THAT. BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY
GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT BECAUSE
THEY HAVE NO BOUNDARIES IN TERMS
OF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE TRYING
TO PLAY SOME PEOPLE'S ON
PEOPLE'S LIVES IN TERMS OF
EXTRADITION. THERE ARE TWO TYPES
OF EXTRADITION. IF THE IF THE
CRIME IS COMMITTED IN THE STATE
THAT ONCE EXTRADITION IS TRYING
TO PULL SOMEONE BACK, WE HAVE
CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE US
CONSTITUTION. IF IT IF IT IS NOT
SO CLEAR THAT IT TOOK PLACE IN
THAT STATE. IF IT WAS IN ANOTHER
STATE THAN IT CAN OFTEN BE
DISCRETIONARY FOR THAT STATE. SO
THOSE ARE THE TWO TYPES OF
BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER FOLLOW
UP QUESTION. MR CHAIR IS THAT IF
THEY FLED THEIR STATE WHERE IT'S
ILLEGAL, NOUS SAY THAT AND THEN
THEY GO TO A NEUTRAL STATE, AND
THEN THEY COME TO CALIFORNIA AND
WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE A SAFE
HARBOR. THEN THOSE SUBPOENAS OR
COURT EXTRADITION ORDERS THAT
WOULD COME TO CALIFORNIA LAW
ENFORCEMENT WOULD PUT US ON
FIRMER GROUND TO SAY, WELL,
WAIT. THEY DIDN'T THEY'RE
SEEKING PROTECTION HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND THAT ACT DID NOT
OCCUR IN THE ISSUING STATE.
YEAH. I MEAN, THE MORE
ATTENUATED THE WEAKER THEIR
GROUNDS ARE, BUT WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS WE DON'T WANT TO
VIOLATE THE U. S CONSTITUTION
AND NOTHING IN THIS BILL. DOES
SOMEONE, OF COURSE CAN CONTEND
WHATEVER THEY WANT IN THE
COURTS. WE TRY TO BE VERY
CAREFUL NOT TO VIOLATE THE
CONSTITUTION. BUT WE WANT TO GO
RIGHT UP TO THE BOUNDARY WHERE
WE LEGALLY CAN GO TO SAY WITHOUT
VIOLATING CONSTITUTION. WE'RE
GOING TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO.
TO SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A
PARTY TO YOUR LAWS WERE NOT
GOING TO ENFORCE THESE TERRIBLE
LAWS, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO
BECOME AN ARM OF GOVERNOR ABBOTT
OR WHOEVER ELSE IS ENGAGING IN
THESE ATTACKS IN THE AREA OF
TELEHEALTH OR CRISIS CENTER.
PEOPLE CALL IN FOR ADVICE OR
PEOPLE WANT TO CONSULT WITH THE
DOCTOR. HERE IS SITTING IN
CALIFORNIA AND THIS IS I FEEL
LIKE I'M IN LAW SCHOOL AGAIN.
HERE THIS IS A WERE OUR LAWS IN
CALIFORNIA TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE HERE PHYSICALLY IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WORD IS
WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR THINKING ON
THAT AS FAR AS SHERIFF GETTING A
SUBPOENA FROM SOME JUDGE IN
TEXAS, SAYING THIS HEALTH CARE
PROVIDER HAD NEVER LEFT TO SAY
CALIFORNIA IS TO BE THE RECORDS
OF RETURNED OVER AND THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE EXTRADITED. I AM
IN TERMS OF THE SUBPOENA. THE
BILL WOULD PRECLUDE THAT, UM,
THAT A SUBPOENA FROM BEING
HONORED IN TERMS OF THE
EXTRADITION IF THEY'RE GOING UP
TO THE MEDICAL PROVIDER, THE
MEDICAL PROVIDER WAS IN
CALIFORNIA. I DON'T I WOULD. I
WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE
DISCRETIONARY EXTRADITION, BUT
OF COURSE, THE COURTS WOULD
ULTIMATELY BE THE ONES TO MAKE
THAT DECISION. AND THEN, FINALLY
, IF A CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
PROVIDER OR CRISIS MANAGEMENT
PERSON ACTUALLY LEAVES THE STATE
AND GOES AND PROVIDES THE
SERVICES OR THE INFORMATION TO
IN THAT STATE TO THAT PERSON,
EVEN THOUGH THEIR LICENSE HERE
IN CALIFORNIA AND THEN THEY COME
BACK, THAT'S ON SHAKIER GROUNDS
AS FAR AS OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT
THOSE PEOPLE WITH THE PEOPLE IN
THE LAW, ALTHOUGH THE BILL IS
ALSO DESIGNED, IT'S NOT. IT'S
NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE
SERVICES IN CALIFORNIA. SO IF A
PARENTS ALLOW THEIR CHILD TO
RECEIVE GENDER FIRMING CARE,
LET'S SAY IN TEXAS, TEXAS AT
THIS POINT HAS BEEN SHUTTING
DOWN ALL THOSE CLINICS. BUT
LET'S SAY THERE IS A CLINIC AND
THEY CARE THERE AND IN THE
STATES LIKE WE'RE GOING TO
PROSECUTE YOU FOR CHILD ABUSE IF
THEY COME TO CALIFORNIA. WE WILL
STILL DO WHAT WE CAN UNDER THIS
BILL TO PROTECT THEM. WE MAY
HAVE LIMITS UNDER THE US
CONSTITUTION, BUT WE WERE GOING
TO GO RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OF
WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO TO PROTECT
THEM. AND THEY SAY UNLESS WE ARE
ABSOLUTELY FORCED TO SEND YOU
BACK, WE ARE NOT GONNA SEND YOU
BACK. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK
YOU. SEND WIECKOWSKI. WE'RE
GOING TO COME BACK TO QUESTIONS
COMMENTS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
APPARENTLY BECAUSE OF A
TECHNICAL ISSUE. WE CUT OFF
THOSE WHO WISH TO PROVIDE
SOMETHING ME TO TESTIMONY ON THE
PHONE LINES. SO MODERATOR IF WE
COULD GO BACK AS I MENTIONED AT
THE OUTSET 15 MINUTES PER SIDE.
SO IF WE GO BACK, AND IF THE
CALLER WOULD GIVE US THEIR NAME,
THEIR AFFILIATION IN THEIR
POSITION, ALRIGHT, CERTAINLY,
AND WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER
30. YEAH YES, YOU'RE ON. YES, WE
CAN. DEFINITELY THIS IS NOTHING
BUT BREAKING UP THE FAMILY. I'M
SORRY, MA'AM. YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION POSITION. ALRIGHT,
MODERATE. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT
CALLER, CERTAINLY OUR NEXT LINE
WILL BE LINE. 20 HELLO? YES,
YOU'RE ON MY NAME'S BILL STANTON
. I'M A PARENT. AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSED THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO LINE 38.
HI. MY NAME IS T G LARUE. I
REPRESENT OUR DUTY. I'M A PARENT
OF A TRANS IDENTIFIED CHILD. AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU AND WE WILL GO TO
LINE 109. LINE 109. WE WILL
CONTINUE ON TO LINE 28. HI YES,
THIS IS JULIA DONNELLY. I AM A
PARENT OF A TRANS IDENTIFIED
YOUTH. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AND WE'LL GO TO LINE 26. PAUL
TUCKER. I'M A PARENT AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSETHIS FILM. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU AND WE'LL GO TO
LINE 57. HI MY NAME IS DEDE AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE SB, ONE OF
SEVEN ON THE MOTHER OF A SON WHO
THOUGHT HE WAS TRANSGENDER FOR
YEARS AND THEN REALIZED HE WAS
THANK YOU. GOD, PLEASE THANK
YOU. AND NEXT LINE WILL GO TO
51. HELLO I'M A PARENT OF A
TRANS IDENTIFIED YOUTH IN
SACRAMENTO. AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSES STILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU AND OUR LINE NUMBER WILL BE
ONE. OH, SIX. HELLO I'M MY NAME
IS POLICE SWIMMER. I MADE
DEMOCRATIC PARENTS OF TRANS
IDENTIFYING CHILD STRONGLY
OPPOSED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND OUR NEXT LINE IS 31. YES
THAT WOULD BE ME. HELLO HELLO. I
AM SICK AND TIRED OF ALL RIGHTY.
THANK YOU. NAME AFFILIATION
POSITION. NEXT LINE WILL BE 88.
THANK YOU. LINE 88 YEAR LINE IS
OPEN. WE WILL CONTINUE ON TO
LINE 44. HELLO. MY NAME IS ED
VIDAK: OF CONTRA COSTA COUNTY.
UM I STRONGLY OPPOSED THIS BILL
ON THE PARENT OF A TRANS
IDENTIFIED YOUTH WHO WAS
CHEMICALLY CASTRATED BY SORRY.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. AND
OUR NEXT LINE WILL GO TO 1 15.
MR CHAIR AND MEMBER SYLVIA'S
BELIEFS SHAW ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD, AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU IN OUR NEXT LINE
WILL BE 1 11. BEAN PARENT OF A
GENDER CONFUSED, USED AND
STRONGLY OPPOSED, AND WITH
SILICON VALLEY AND ASSOCIATION
FOUNDATION. ALL RIGHT, THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND OUR NEXT
LINE WILL BE 1 16. THIS IS RENE
CUSTOMER. I'M A FORMER DEMOCRATS
AND PARENTS OF A TEENAGE DE
TRANSITION ER AND STRONGLY
OPPOSED ONE OF SEVEN THANK YOU.
AND OUR NEXT LINE WILL BE 1 12.
HELLO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE ON 1
12. HI. MY NAME IS LIV LU჌N.
URBANO I'M A PARENT. CHILD.
TRANS IDENTIFIED RECENTLY
STRONGLY OPPOSES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU AND OUR NEXT LINE WILL
BE 88. 88 YEAR LINE IS OPEN. YOU
WANT ME? YES, IT IS. YOU CAN
HEAR ME GO AHEAD, MA'AM, WAITING
FOR US AND CHRIS AND THE PARENT
OF THE GENDER SPORT CHILD, AND I
APPROACHED THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MODERATOR.
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MOVED. THE
BILL WIECKOWSKI MOVES THE BILL.
WE DIDN'T CARE CLOSE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM
APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
YOU KNOW, UM IT'S REALLY TRAGIC
THAT THERE IS TRANS KIDS HAVE
BECOME A POLITICAL FOOTBALL. UM
BY SOME VERY, VERY CYNICAL
POLITICIANS WHO ON THE BACKS OF
THESE CHILDREN, OR TRYING TO
MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES IN
POLITICS, CLIMBED THE WAY UP THE
LADDER, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY
WANT TO DO. THAT HAS PROFOUND
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE LIVES OF
THESE CHILDREN. IT WASN'T THAT
LONG AGO AND I SAY THIS AS A GAY
MAN. THAT MEMBERS OF MY
COMMUNITY. GAY MEN, LESBIANS.
WE'RE TOLD AN EARLY AGE. YOU
AREN'T WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE.
YOU'RE JUST GOING THROUGH A
PHASE. STAY IN THE CLOSET. WE'RE
GOING TO PUT YOU IN CONVERSION
THERAPY. WHATEVER THE CASE MAY
BE, THAT'S STILL HAPPENING
TODAY. BY THE WAY, AND NOW WE'RE
SEEING WITH TRANS KIDS. THIS
NARRATIVE THAT YOU DON'T EXIST.
IT'S FAKE. IT'S A PHASE YOU'RE
BEING MANIPULATED. WE SEE IT
WITH THE BATHROOM BILLS. BENEFIT
TRANSWOMEN ONCE A URINATE IN THE
WOMEN'S RESTROOM, SHE MUST BE
FAKING IT THIS CAMERA WAY IN. WE
SEE IT WITH ATHLETES. YOU KNOW
IF A TRANS YOUNG WOMAN WANTS TO
RUN ACROSS COUNTRY ON THE
WOMEN'S TEAM. SHE MUST BE FAKING
IT. TO GET AN ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU
GET ALL THE HEADLINES, NEGATIVE
HEADLINES WHEN A TRENDS GIRL
WE'RE YOUNG WOMAN WINS INSTEAD
OF PRAISING HER FOR WINNING.
IT'S AN ATTACK BECAUSE SHE MUST
BE A SCAM ARTIST WHILE IGNORING
ALL THE TIMES THAT SAYS GENDER,
WOMEN BEAT THE TRANS WOMEN AND
ATHLETIC CONTEST. WE SEE IT IN
THE PRISON SETTING WHERE WE PASS%
THE GROUNDBREAKING LAW HERE A
FEW YEARS AGO TO THE TRANS WOMEN
WHO ARE AT SUCH EXTREME RISK OF
VIOLENCE AND MEN'S PRISON,
GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE HOUSED IN WOMEN'S FACILITY.
AND ALL WE HEAR ABOUT IS THAT
THEY'RE ALL SUPPOSEDLY FAKE SCAM
ARTISTS TRYING TO GET THEIR WAY
INTO WOMEN'S PRISONS. THIS IS A
COMMUNITY. THESE PEOPLE ARE
REAL. THEY ARE REAL HUMAN BEINGS
WITH REAL LIVES, AND THEY ARE
BEING DEMONIZED AND CRIMINALIZED
IN THESE STATES. IT'S TIME FOR
CALIFORNIA TO STAND UP. I ASKED
FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU.
MOTION BY CENTER WIECKOWSKI
MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLL, THIS IS S P ONE R
SEVEN BY SENATOR WIENER. THE
MOTION IS THAT THE ASSEMBLY
AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED IN
HAMBURG. HAMBURG. I BORE GIS. OR
JUST KNOW CABALLERO. COPY EURO.
I DO RUSSELL GONZALEZ GONZALEZ,
I HERZBERG JONES. JON SNOW
LAYERED DICE TURN. ALL RIGHT,
TURN. I WIECKOWSKI OH, HI.
WIECKOWSKI AYE WIENER. I HAVE
FAR 34822. ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING
TO KEEP THROWING THEM FOR ONE
MINUTE. SO LET'S CALL THE ROLL
ON THE PREVIOUS BILL FOR THOSE
WHO WEREN'T PRESENT TO BE ABLE
TO VOTE LOST. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO. SB 5 23 BY SENATOR
LEYVA. COPY EURO EURO. I
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG.
STERN STERN, I YOU HAVE 8 TO 2.
ALRIGHT THAT BUILDS OUT. ALRIGHT
LET'S GO CALL THE ROLL ONE MORE
ONE LAST TIME ON SB 107. FILE
ITEM NUMBER ONE SB ONE. OH,
SEVEN. HERTZBERG. YOU HAVE 8 TO
2. ALRIGHT, THE BILLS OUT UM,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I KNOW
THAT SENATOR DODD IS HERE TO
COMMENCE GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION
. BUT COME ON UP, SENATOR,
SENATOR DODD. BUT LET ME BEFORE
WE ADJOURN. LET ME THANK THE
STAFF OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
FOR THEIR ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING
EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR.
EVERYONE FROM OUR ASSISTANCE.
YES. ERICA AND CLAIRE. TO TIM
GRIFFITHS. CHRISTIAN CORPUS KEY
. ALISON MEREDITH, AMANDA
MATTSON. AND LASTLY, THE CAPTAIN
OF THE SHIP MARCHES. STRATIS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
WE ARE ADJOURNED. YES GO AHEAD