SO. AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. THANK
YOU, MADAM. VICE CHAIR. GOOD TO
SEE YOU. SEE YOU, BEN. SO WE'RE
GOING TO COME TO ORDER AS YOU
ALL KNOW, WE'RE CONTINUING TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS. SER. THE
CENTER SEASON. NÓ. I GOT A
PRESENT. BUT I'LL SIT SOMEWHERE.
IT'S THE ONLY THING YOU PUT IT
RIGHT HERE. ALRIGHT, SO WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS. TO
MANAGE THE ONGOING COVID 19
RISKS AND BUT THAT WE DO VERY
MUCH WELCOME THE PUBLIC AND
WE'VE PROVIDED ACCESS TO BOTH IN
PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION. FOR PUBLIC
COMMENTS FOR THOSE THAT DO WANT
TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELEPHONES. TODAY'S PARTICIPANT
NUMBERS 8772 TO 6. 8163 THE
ACCESS CODE IS 82 45. 991. AND
ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS
POSTED ON THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE
AS WELL. WE'RE ASKING ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME
ON DOWN TO ROOM 2200 SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM. WE HAVE
ONE BILL ON TODAY'S AGENDA THAT
IS SB 38 BY OUR ESTEEMED CHAIR,
MEREDITH, WHO ARE SADLY SAYING
FAREWELL TO AS ALONG WITH OUR
WONDERFUL VICE CHAIR. SO WE ARE
GOING TO ASK YOU NOW TO JUST GO
AHEAD AND PRESENT SP 38. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR, SP 38 HAS BEEN
SUBSTANTIALLY AMENDED SINCE
MARCH. 12TH. 2021 WHEN WE'RE
HERE IN THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE WE
REACHED OUR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY
OF THE COVID 19 VIRUS, UM IT'S
NO LONGER SEEKS TO STAB LISHAN,
THIS EXTENDED PRODUCER
RESPONSIBILITY, A COMPREHENSIVE
REFORM TO OUR STATE'S BOTTLE
BILL PROGRAM. UM, YOU KNOW, IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THERE'S
NO OTHER BOTTLE BILL PROGRAM
THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE UNITED
STATES. THAT ONE SUFFERS THE
SAME LOSS IF WE HAVE RE DEFT
REDEMPTION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE
SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE. T UM. HAS SEEN. EVAPORATION OF ANY
SIBLINGS OF CONSUMER CONFIDENCE
THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND A
PLACE TO RETURN THEIR BOTTLES.
THREE A WELL PUBLICIZED IN
RAMPANT FRAUD FRAUD SYSTEM AND
FOUR UM, THAT CONTINUED
CONTAMINATION OF MATERIALS
WITHOUT ANY HOPE OF HAVING THE
MATERIALS THAT ARE GOES THROUGH
THE SYSTEM TO BE CLEAN. SO S P
38 ADDRESS IS PART OF THE
ONGOING ISSUE OF FRAUD IN OUR
PROGRAM BY PROHIBITING
PROCESSORS FROM MAKING PAYMENTS
TO RECYCLERS IN CASH. THE CASH
PARTY IS OVER IN CALIFORNIA.
WITH SB 38 CASH PAYMENTS BETWEEN
PROCESSORS AND RECYCLERS DOES
NOT EXIST IN ANY OTHER PROGRAM
IN THE UNITED STATES AND MOVING
AWAY FROM THIS PRACTICE. BOTH
MODERNIZED OUR PROGRAM AND
PROVIDES CALVARY CYCLE WITH
BETTER OVERSIGHT AND ENFORCEMENT
CAPABLE CAPABILITIES. SB 38 ALSO
DIRECTS CALORIE CYCLE TO STUDY
AND DEVELOP A SYSTEM TO ADDRESS
THE PROGRAMS ONGOING ISSUES OF
CONTAMINATION TO HOW DO WE
IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE GLASS
MATERIAL? UM THAT'S THAT'S
COLLECTED. WOULD I HAVE LIKE
SOMETHING MORE THAN THE STUDY
BILL ON CLASS CONTAMINATION? YES
I WOULD HAVE, BUT BUT MR CHAIR,
I HAVE THE GREATEST CONFIDENCE
IN YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS
BODY. BESIDES MISS BATES AND I
THAT THAT ONCE THIS INFORMATION
IS PRESENTED, AND WE HAVE INPUT
FROM THE FROM THE PLAYERS THAT
THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE ABLE
TO DIRECT CALORIE CYCLE. ON A
PROGRAM THAT THE NEEDS THAT NEED
AND STEPS THAT NEED TO BE MAKING
TO IMPROVE THE CONTAMINATION
PROGRAM. I HAVE SUSAN COLLINS
AND JEFF DUNLEAVY, WHO HAVE BEEN
SUPPORTERS OF, UM. THE
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BOTTLE BILLS
HERE TO, UH TESTIFYING SUPPORT
AND I WOULD URGE AND I VOTE.
ONCE WE ESTABLISH QUORUM. NO.
I'LL BE THERE IN A SECOND. SUSAN
YEAH. JEFF. SER RIGHT HERE IN
FRONT OF THE CLASS, OKAY? MIGHT
CHECK THIS. YES. ALRIGHT MY NAME
IS JEFF DAHN LIBBY, GENERAL
MANAGER OF MING'S RECYCLING AND
MING'S RESOURCES, EAST BAY AND
HAYWARD. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
CHAIR AND SENATOR WIECKOWSKI.
FOR THIS BILL? UM DEFINITELY IN
SUPPORT OF IT. THE PROVISIONS TO
PROHIBIT CASH PAYMENTS FROM
PROCESSORS TO RECYCLING CENTERS
IS BEST. IT'S BEST BUSINESS
PRACTICES SO ALL THE
TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN THE
PROCESSORS AND RECYCLERS ARE
ACCOUNTED FOR. UM TYPICAL
RECYCLING CENTERS OR HANDLING
BETWEEN 500,000 AND A MILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR IN CRV PAYMENTS.
AND THOSE NEED TO BE TRACKED.
ESPECIALLY FOR THE COST STUDIES
THAT CAL RECYCLE DOES TO
DETERMINE THE PROCESSING
PAYMENTS, WHICH ARE THE
SUBSIDIES. AH BUSINESSES
OPERATING ON A CASH BASIS BASIS
TYPICALLY DO NOT ACCOUNT FOR ALL
OF THEIR CASH OR ALL THEIR
TRANSACTIONS, WHICH NEGATIVELY
AFFECTS THE PROCESSING PAYMENTS
. THEY SHOW THAT THEY'RE
OPERATING AT A LOWER COST,
POSSIBLY FOR TAX REASONS OR
OTHER REASONS AND THAT IMPACTS
THE RECYCLING CENTERS THAT ARE
TRACKING ALL OF THEIR COSTS
THROUGH ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS.
RATHER THAN JUST ON NAPKINS OR
SMALL RECEIPTS AND A LOT OF THE
VENDORS THAT THEY USE THEIR ALSO
PAYING IN CASH, WHICH COULD LEAD
TO OTHER TAX IMPLICATIONS AND
NOT PAYING ALL THEIR TAXES THAT
ARE DUE SO WE DEFINITELY SUPPORT
THIS PROVISION. IT'S A STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO REDUCE
FRAUD IN THE PROGRAM, AND WITH
THAT, I REQUESTED MY VOTE. THANK
YOU. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME
AGAIN FOR THE RECORDS ARE YES,
JEFF DON LEVY, GENERAL MANAGER
WITH MING'S RECYCLING AND
SACRAMENTO AND MING'S RESOURCES
, EAST BAY IN HAYWARD. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM
THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT? THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK
YOU, SENATOR WIECKOWSKI. I'M
SUSAN COLLINS, PRESIDENT OF THE
CONTAINER RECYCLING INSTITUTE.
THIS BILL WOULD ALSO REQUIRE
CALORIE CYCLE TO STUDY AND
DEVELOP A SYSTEM OR PROCESS TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF GLASS
CONTAMINATION. THIS HAS BEEN A
PERENNIAL PROBLEM IN THIS
PROGRAM. RIGHT NOW, THE PROGRAM
GOES THROUGH THE UNUSUAL MEASURE
THAT I SEE IN NO OTHER PROGRAMS
AROUND THE WORLD WHERE THEY PAY
$10 MILLION ANNUALLY. TO CLEAN
UP THE GLASS FROM CURBSIDE
PROGRAMS. SO WE TAKE PERFECTLY
GOOD GLASS. WE COMPLETELY MIX IT
UP WITH OTHER MATERIALS AND
COMPLETELY MESS IT UP AND THEN
PAY AN EXTRA $10 MILLION TO TRY
TO PUT HUMPTY DUMPTY BACK
TOGETHER AGAIN, SORT OF ITS IT.
WE CAN DO BETTER RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE NO STANDARDS FOR THE
WAY GLASS COMES OUT OF CURBSIDE
RECYCLING PROGRAMS. THERE'S NO
INSPECTIONS. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY
DOCUMENTED THAT IT ALLOWS
CURBSIDE PROGRAM CP PAID 4.5
TIMES MORE THAN THE NORMAL COST
OF RECYCLING. UM WHICH IS
COSTING THE PROGRAM A BUNCH OF
MONEY AND IT CREATES A PERVERSE
INCENTIVE AND WE'VE GOT A STUDY
ON THAT ON OUR WEBSITE. LASTLY
THOUGH, I WAS SO OF COURSE WE
VERY MUCH SUPPORT THIS BILL, BUT
I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SINCERE
THANKS. TO SENATOR WIECKOWSKI
FOR ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES, AND
SO MANY MORE. UM YOU CAN SEE
POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS NOT ONLY
IN THIS BILL, BUT IN OTHER BILLS
THAT TOUCH ON THE BEVERAGE
CONTAINER RECYCLING BILL. SB 10
, 13 AND A B 1 79. AND FOR ALL
OF YOUR WORK, THANK YOU. WE'LL
MISS YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS TONY GONZALEZ,
REPRESENTING TAMRA, NORTH
AMERICA. A GLOBAL RECYCLING
COMPANY, WHICH OPERATES IN
EUROPE, NORTH AMERICA, AUSTRALIA
IN NO OTHER DEPOSIT SYSTEM
AROUND THE WORLD ARE CASH
RECYCLERS EVEN IS EVEN HEARD OF.
IT'S COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF.
EXCEPT HERE IN CALIFORNIA, WHERE
WE DO KNOW WE HAVE A PERSISTENT
FRAUD PROBLEM. MUCH OF THAT IS
ENABLED BY THE FLOW OF CASH FROM
BUSINESSES TO BUSINESSES, MUCH
OF WHICH INVOLVES CONTAINERS
THAT COME IN FROM OUT OF STATE.
SO I WANT TO ALSO ECHO STUDENTS
COMMENTS OR MISS COLLINS
COMMENTS ABOUT SENATOR WHITE
HOUSE HE'S EFFORTS OVER THE
YEARS ON MINIMUM RECYCLED
CONTENT LEGISLATION, WHICH
RESULTED IN SUBSEQUENT
LEGISLATION. AS WELL AS OTHER
LEGISLATION THAT RESULTED IN
MUCH OF WHAT'S IN SB 10 13,
WHICH WE SUPPORT AND WE'RE SO
GRATEFUL FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THIS
COMMITTEE'S EFFORTS TO SUPPORT
RECYCLING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
TONY. ANY OTHERS. WELL, SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. WE LET THEM SPEAK A
LITTLE LONGER BECAUSE THEY WERE
GIVING YOU ALL THOSE SHOUT OUTS
. BUT WE'RE NOW READY TO GO TO
THE PHONES, THOSE WHO MIGHT BE
ON THE PHONE WANTING TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR. SB 58 38. LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT. PLEASE PRESS 1 TO 0 AT
THIS TIME. ONE MOMENT WE DO HAVE
19, CUBA. WE'RE ON THE PHONE FOR
SUPPORT.
MATTERS. ARE ANYONE THERE? WE'VE
GOT A LINE 13, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI MRS JORDAN WELLS WITH THE
NATIONAL SECURITY ACTION COUNSEL
AND SUPPORT SENATOR WIECKOWSKI.
THAT'S GREAT ADDITIONAL LINES AT
THIS TIME. OKAY LET'S NOW SEE IF
THERE'S ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILL
OR ISSUES. NO ONE HERE IN
PERSON. ANYONE ON THE PHONE
LINES MODERATOR. LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. I HAVE NO LINES OF
APPETITE OPPOSITION AT THIS
TIME. GREAT ALRIGHT, LET'S BRING
IT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS ARE WHAT'S GOING ON
WITH OUR MEMBERS SO WE CAN I
SHOULD I START TO TEXT THEM ALL
AND TELL HIM WE NEED HIM. UM.
OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO, YOU KNOW?
YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST
MEETING, SENATOR. BUT YOU'VE
YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN A GREAT
LEADER IN THIS SPACE. AND UM,
THIS BILL IS NOT YOUR BIGGEST
BILL, BUT IT'S GOING TO HELP.
IT'S GONNA HELP MAKE THE SYSTEM
BETTER THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN
WORKING ON TRYING TO IMPROVE
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
AND IT WAS GREAT TRAVELING WITH
YOU AND MAINE AND QUEBEC, NOT
TOO LONG AGO, LEARNING ABOUT ALL
THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE THERE
AND THEN QUITE FRANKLY, YOU
KNOW, I MEAN, THE TRUTH OF
MATTER IS THERE'S JUST THIS.
WE'VE GOT TO CRACK THIS GLASS
CONTAMINATION THAT BOTH FOR THE
GLASS FOLKS, AND FOR EVERYBODY
ELSE. I MEAN THE GLASS PEOPLE
NEED THE CLEAN COLOR AND, UM AND
EVERYBODY ELSE IS QUITE
INCREASING. THIS IS REALLY
IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO CREATE
A COHERENT RECYCLING SYSTEM FOR
ALL THE OTHER PRODUCTS AS WELL.
SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS BILL
WILL HELP TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT
EXIST. UM SYSTEMICALLY AND THAT
WE WILL BE ABLE TO THEN TAKE
SOME WORK, DECISIVE ACTION AS WE
GO FORWARD. NO ONE LIKES TO
FRAME THE ISSUE. AND I WOULD YOU
KNOW, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SHARE SO
I WOULDN'T WANT TO COMPLETE ALL
THE WORK TO IMPROVE ALL THESE
PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND LEAVE NOTHING FOR
ANOTHER LITTLE KIND KIND.
CONSIDERATE YEAH. MHM YEAH, IT
SURE WOULD. THAT'S RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. WE DIDN'T GET
EMOTIONAL. WHY NOT? WE'RE DOING
ESTABLISHING QUORUM FIRST. YEAH.
YEAH ALAN HERE, ALAN. HERE FATES
. BATES HERE, DOLLY DOLLY HERE.
GONZALES SKINNER, STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI HERE.
GREAT. UM, VICE CHAIR TO MOVE
THE BILL. DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR OKAY? WE'LL GO TO
WILL GO TO THE CENTER WIECKOWSKI
TO CLOSE EVERYTHING. I THINK
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID. IT'S A
RATHER SLIMMED UP, BILL. BUT
THERE IS AN IPHONE. THANK YOU,
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ITEM NUMBER ONE SP 38 BY SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. THE MOTION IS THAT
THE ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE
CONCURRED IN SENATOR ALLEN. ALAN
I, SENATOR BATES BATES I,
SENATOR DOLLY SENATOR DOLLY I,
SENATOR GONZALEZ. SENATOR
GONZALEZ I, SENATOR SKINNER.
SENATOR STERN. SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. AYE. WIECKOWSKI.
ALRIGHT, FANTASTIC. WELL, THAT
IS BY 5 TO 0 DISH. OKAY, THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR. WELL,
WE WILL HELP YOU ALONG. NOW IT'S
MY UNDERSTANDING MINISTER MIGHT
NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, UM
CENTER SKINNER. WHAT'S THE
LATEST? I TEXT HER? I MEAN THE
BILLS. WE GOT PLENTY OF VOTES.
LET'S SEE. MR I'M GONNA STAY. I
APOLOGIZE FOR LAST TIME WHERE I
HAD TO RUN OUT AND TAKE THAT
INTERVIEW. I'M HERE TO BRING YOU
BACK TO CHAIR AND YEAH.
YEAH. ANYBODY HAVE EYES ON.
ELECTION 25
.
LET'S SCARE FOLKS, AND SHE
WANTED. SHOULD WE. I DON'T KNOW
. WE COULD CLOSE THE ROLE, I
GUESS.
WE HAVE EYES ON. MEMBERS ALABAMA.
THE ONE IDEA.
PETE. YOU LOST HIM. HOW DO YOU
NO. YEAH, I NEVER MIND. I'M
SENDING YOU A TEXT ANYWAY. LIKE
DRAFTED IT. THANK YOU. SO I RAN
FOLLOWING. I CALLED HER OFFICE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY
KNOW WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SHE'S
DOING. OKAY, SO THERE'S STILL
SUPERCENTER SKINNER. OKAY?
MY APOLOGIES FOR KEEPING YOU
WAITING. THANK YOU, SENATOR.
ALRIGHT LET'S OPEN. REOPENTHE
ROLE FOR SB 38 SO IT'S TO ALLOW
CENTER SCREEN TO ADD ON
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ITEM NUMBER ONE SP 38 BY SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. THE MOTION IS.
SORRY. THE MOTION IS THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN CHAIR VOTING I VICE CHAIR
VOTING I SKINNER. HE'S GONNA TRY
STERN. OKAY SENATOR STERN. I
BELIEVE ON THAT BECOMING, I
THINK WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE
ROLE AND THAT'S A 6 TO 0 VOTE.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. UM AND WE
WILL NOW TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO
SENATE ELECTIONS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO THE
BOTTOM START. SHE'S GOT TO STAY
UP THERE. OKAY? YEAH, EXACTLY.
YEAH CRAZY. HOW ARE YOU? HELLO
NO, ACTUALLY, I DID. YEAH DID
YOU LIKE THAT WAY YOU HAVE OTHER
STARTING HERE? DO YOU WANT THIS
OR. YEAH 20 GONZO, HORRIBLE OR.
ELECTIONS AND CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS WILL BEGIN IN 60
SECONDS