THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
WILL NOW COME TO ORDER
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE BUT
AS WE CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE THE
ONGOING COVERT NINETEEN
RISKS THE SENATE CONTINUES
TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC HAS
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I WILL ANNOUNCE IT NOW TODAY'S
PARTICIPATION NUMBER IS ONE
EIGHT FOUR FOUR TWO NINE ONE
SIX THREE SIX FOUR AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS ONE FOUR ONE
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THEN YOU'RE READY TO ADDRESS THE
COMMITTEE FOR TODAY'S HEARING
WILL BE HEARING ALL THE PANELS
OF WITNESSES ARE GENDER PRIOR TO
TAKING ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ONCE
WE'VE HEARD ALL THE WITNESSES
WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
COMMIT COMMENT ON THE TOPICS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA WE WILL ALSO
HEAR FROM ALL THE PRESENTERS
FIRST BEFORE TAKING A MEMBER
OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
A YEAR AGO TODAY WE HELD AN
OVERSIGHT HEARING ON THE STEPS
THAT ARE BEING TAKEN IN THE
AFTERMATH OF THE AUGUST TWENTY
TWENTY ROTATING ON OUTAGES
AND TO PREVENT FUTURE SIMILAR
EVENTS ESPECIALLY AS CLIMATE
CHANGE INDUCED HEAT WAVE IMPACTS
TO OUR ELECTRIC GRID
SUPPLY ALTHOUGH OUR ENERGY
AGENCIES ARE TAKING ACTIONS TO
PREVENT FUTURE WIDESPREAD POWER
OUTAGES INCLUDING A HISTORIC
ENERGY PROCUREMENT ORDER BY
THE CPUC THE ADMINISTRATION
IS RAISING CONCERNS IT MAY
NOT BE ENOUGH AND WE WILL
NEED TO EXPAND OPERATIONS OF
DIABLO CANYON THE STATE'S LAST
OPERATING NUCLEAR FACILITY
IN LATE APRIL OF THIS YEAR
GOVERNOR NEWSOM COMMENTED ON
THE POSSIBILITY OF EXTENDED
OPERATIONS OF THE DIABLO CANYON
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT AS WELL AS
NATURAL GAS PLANTS THAT SUB THAT
ARE SUBJECT TO RETIREMENT DUE
TO STATE WATER BOARD REGULATIONS
REGARDING ONCE THROUGH
COOLING FACILITIES THAT IMPACT
OCEAN WATER AND MARINE LIFE
SINCE THEN THERE HAVE BEEN A
NUMBER OF NEWS REPORTS ENERGY
NEWS JOINT AGENCY WORKSHOP
AS RECENT AS TWO WEEKS AGO TO
DISCUSS THE NEED OPTION AND
HURDLES TO EXTEND THE OPERATION
OF THE DIABLO CANYON FACILITY
A FACILITY THAT IS CURRENTLY
SCHEDULED TO RETIRE IN TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE THE NEW SOME
ADMINISTRATION AS NOTED THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SECURE FEDERAL
FUNDING FROM THE US DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY'S IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT
AND JOBS ACT SPECIFICALLY
A PENDING SEPTEMBER SIXTH
APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR
CURRENTLY OPERATING NUCLEAR
FACILITIES TODAY'S HEARING
IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SENATORS
TO HEAR FROM THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE IN A PUBLIC SETTING
ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
TO EXTEND OPERATIONS OF THE
DIABLO CANYON WE'LL ALSO HEAR
FROM A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS
INCLUDING MANY WHO WHO ARE
PARTIES TO THE JOINT SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT TO DECOMMISSION THE
PLANT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO
RAISE QUESTIONS AND HEAR ABOUT
THE PRIORITY CONSIDERATIONS
SHOULD SHOULD SHOULD
SUCH AN EXTENSION BE PROVIDED
WE WILL HEAR FIRST FROM
-- THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
ANNA ANNA SANTOS THE CABINET
SECRETARY NEXT WE WILL HEAR
FROM A REPRESENTATIVE OF PACIFIC
GAS AND ELECTRIC AND THEN FROM
THE BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE FROM
THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD
OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS --
FOLLOWED BY -- -- PROGRAM
CO DIRECTOR WITH THE NATIONAL
RATE NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL FOLLOWED BY
A CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF THE
COUNTY OF OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
AND THEN -- FROM
-- THE DIFF OF A REPRESENTATIVE
FROM DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE
FROM THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
PROTECTION NETWORK AND LASTLY
FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE UTILITY REFORM NETWORK
BUT FIRST WE WILL HEAR
FROM ON A MINUS MATA SANTOS
SHE IS THE CABINET SECRETARY IN
THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR NEWSOM
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE'S
ALREADY ON THE LINE WELCOME
MADAM SECRETARY ARE YOU THERE
WERE SO PLEASED TO HAVE YOU
WITH OUR COMMITTEE TODAY I'M
HERE MISTER CHAIR THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE -- WE
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK THROUGH WHAT WHAT ARE THE
WHAT WHY ARE WE HERE THREE KEY
QUESTIONS IN OUR PERSPECTIVE ONE
WHY ARE WE HERE SECOND WHY
DO WE THINK WE NEED A PROPOSED
-- WHAT WE NEEDED THE ABILITY
TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND OPERATIONS
OF THOSE PLANS IN ORDER TO
BE ABLE TO OUR CONTINUOUS
FONTAINE AND WHY WE THINK IT'S
A REALLY CRITICAL AT THIS TIME
IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU MISTER
CHAIR I'D LIKE MY COLLEAGUE
KAREN DOUGLAS TO BEGIN WITH
-- A FEW SLIDES THAT TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRENT
STATUS OUR CURRENT FORECASTS
AND -- AND THE NEEDS THAT WE
SEE THIS RESOURCE -- PLAYING IN
OUR SYSTEM BUT THAT'S OKAY AND
THEN I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT AT THE BACK END OF THE
PROPOSAL ITSELF IN THE LANGUAGE
BEFORE YOU IF THAT WORKS FOR
YOU NOT A PROBLEM THANK YOU
FOR ALL RIGHT WELL
THANK YOU SURE WINNER SO AND
TO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK TO YOU YEAH COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TODAY I WILL SHARE
MY SCREEN NOW AND GO THROUGH
SOME OF THE ENERGY SLIDES
THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED TO THE
COMMITTEE -- AND AS YOU SAID
AT THE OUTSET OF THIS YEAR
WAS SO THE OF THE ISSUES THAT
BRING US TO THIS POINT AND
TO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
NEED FOR EXTENSION OF THE
DIABLO CANYON FACILITY IS --
RELIABILITY AND SO I'M JUST
GOING TO PROVIDE SOME OF
OUR RELIABILITY OUTLOOK NOW
AND SO SHARE MY SCREEN
AND GREAT SO
SO WHAT I WANTED TO START BY
DOING IS TO --
HERE WE GO SO A NUMBER OF
YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE
SLIDE BUT I JUST WANTED TO
ORIENT EVERYBODY AROUND IT AND
POINT OUT A FEW THINGS HERE
-- THIS GREEN THIS IS
A PICTURE OF THE STATE'S SUPPLY
STOCK ENERGY GENERATION OF
POTENTIAL AT EIGHT
PM ON A SEPTEMBER
DAY AT PEAK DAY COMMITTEE
CONDITIONS AND WE'RE GOING FROM
TWENTY TWENTY THROUGH TWO TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE AND JUST ORIENTING
YOU THIS IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO
-- THIS BLUE LINE HERE
REPRESENTS THE ONE IN TEN
PLANNING STANDARD THAT --
THAT IS STANDARD FOR
UTILITIES TO MEET SO THIS IS
REALLY WHERE WE MUST BE
AND THIS GRAY AREA ABOVE
REPRESENTS SOME OF THE --
QUANTIFICATION OF SOME OF THE
ADDITIONAL CLIMATE RISK BASED
ON HE WAVES BASED ON FIRE
IMPACTS AND -- REALLY OBSERVED
EVENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN TWENTY
TWENTY AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE
-- ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THIS
GRAPH IS -- EXISTING NON
DEMAND RESPONSE RESOURCES AND
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE DROP
OFF FROM RETIREMENTS FROM THE
ONCE THROUGH COOLING PLANTS
AND THEN FROM DIABLO CANYON
AND THIS GRAY HERE IS
-- REPRESENTS PROCUREMENT
IT WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST
ENERGY PROCUREMENTS IF NOT THE
LARGEST DONE IN THE COUNTRY --
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND
-- BUILDING ON PROCUREMENT
DONE IN TWENTY NINETEEN TO
TRY TO FILL THE NEED
BROUGHT ON BY A FULL FROM
RISING DEMAND AND BY
-- THE RETIREMENTS WERE ALSO
-- ADJUSTING TO THE FACT THAT
DEMAND IS RISING FASTER THAN
WAS ANTICIPATED --
THIS PICTURE SHOWS A GAP
OF ABOUT -- ONE THOUSAND EIGHT
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS IN TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE A VERY SIMILAR SIZED
GAP IN TWENTY TWENTY TO
AND -- IT SHOWS US BEING
PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE
NEED TO BE IN TWENTY TWENTY
THREE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
BUT THAT THIS ALL ASSUMES
A BEST CASE IN TERMS OF PROJECT
BUILD OUT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T
ACTUALLY REALIZE ONE HUNDRED
PERCENT OF THE AUTHORIZED
PROCUREMENT IN THESE YEARS
OF COURSE THE SUPPLY STACKS
WILL BE SHORTER AND JUST FOR
PERSPECTIVE WHEN THE ENERGY
COMMISSION CONSTRUCTED
YEAH IT'S YEAR AHEAD SUPPLY
STOCK OUTLOOK FOR THE FIRST
SUMMER OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO
THEY WERE TOLD TO EXPECT
OVER FOUR THOUSAND MEGAWATTS
AVAILABLE IN ONLINE TO SUPPORT
SUMMER OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO
THAT CONTRIBUTED TO A SENSE
THAT WE WERE IN GOOD SHAPE
FOR TWENTY TWENTY TWO WHAT
ACTUALLY MATERIALIZED WAS
CLOSER TO TWO THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS AND SO
THAT IS JUST UNDER OF FORTY
PERCENT DROP OFF BETWEEN WHAT
WE EXPECTED TO COME ONLINE TO
SUPPORT -- LOWS THIS SUMMER
AND WHAT ACTUALLY CAME ONLINE
SO BASED ON THAT
ALL OF THE AGENCIES WORK
TOGETHER TO CONSTRUCT A SCENARIO
THAT LOOKS AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
IF WE HAD FORTY PERCENT
DELAYS IN TWENTY TWENTY
TO TWENTY TWENTY THREE AND
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR FOLLOWED
BY JUST TWENTY PERCENT DELAYS
GOING FORWARD AFTER THAT
-- THAT IS BASED ON OUR
RECENT EXPERIENCE --
AN ASSUMPTION THAT IS
REASONABLE BUT I DO WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT THINGS COULD
BE WORSE THAN THAT -- IT'S IT
REPRESENTS A SCENARIO WHERE THE
DELAYS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS ARE
NOT THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
WE ARE -- EXPERIENCE
KIND OF BASED ON WHAT WE
ANTICIPATED THIS SUMMER --
SO WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT
HERE THEN IS THAT --
THIS THIS IS THE SUPPLY STOCK
FOR RESOURCES THAT WE
WOULD HAVE ONLINE UNDER THAT
SCENARIO -- THIS THIS REPRESENTS
THE NEW PROCUREMENT COMING
ONLINE WITH THE FORTY PERCENT
FORTY PERCENT DELAY AND THEN
TWENTY PERCENT TWENTY PERCENT
ASSUMPTIONS IN THIS LITTLE BLUE
LINE ON TOP OF THE STACK THESE
ARE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE
WE WE CAN'T RELY ON THEM BUT
THESE ARE RESOURCES THAT WE
ONLY ACCESS IN EMERGENCIES
SO -- SO THAT THAT'S
WHY THE REPRESENTED IN A
DIFFERENT COLOR AND YOU SEE
THAT WITH THESE WITH THESE DELAY
ASSUMPTIONS BUILT IN FOR
QUITE A BIT BELOW THE ONE IN TEN
LINE EVEN IN TWENTY TWENTY THREE
LET ALONE IN SOME OF THESE OUTER
YEARS AND AGAIN THIS IS THE
CLIMATE -- ANALYSIS
THIS IS THE AND OF HIGHER
RISK FROM CLIMATE CHANGE THAT
WE NEED TO BE PREPARING FOR
-- AND THE STRATEGIC
RESERVES ULTIMATELY
IS A RESOURCE THAT WE HOPE TO
UTILIZE TO HELP US MANAGE
WHEN WE GET EXTREME OF
BANDS THAT PUSH US INTO
THIS BAND WHAT WE'RE REALLY
HOPING FOR AND AND WHAT
WE'RE WHAT WHAT WE REALLY
NEED IS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
TO HELP US IN ADDITION
TO THAT MEET THIS
BASIC ONE IN TEN --
NEED SO WITH THAT I'LL
GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND SHOW
YOU JUST TWO PICTURES OF WHAT
-- SO RATHER THAN THIS
SLIDE IS LOOKING AT AGAIN A
SINGLE HOUR THIS ONE
SHOWS YOU A --
SINGLE DAY OVER A TWENTY FOUR
HOUR CYCLE BECAUSE WE HAVE
HEARD THE QUESTION WHAT DOES
WHAT WOULD THE DIABLO CANYON
FACILITY DO BOTH FOR HELPING
TO FILL THIS GAP WHICH IS HERE
BUT ALSO IN THE OTHER HOURS OF
THE DAY AND SO I'LL JUST SHOW
YOU WHAT THIS PICTURE LOOKS LIKE
BY TOGGLING BACK AND FORTH YOU
CAN SEE THAT WITH DIABLO CANYON
WHICH IS THE BLUE LINE ALONG THE
BOTTOM -- WE'D BE IN A POSITION
IF OUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE REALIZED
ABOUT PROJECT BUILD OUT OF
GENERALLY FILLING THIS GAP IF IF
OUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE ARE
TOO OPTIMISTIC AND DELAYS ARE
GREATER THAN THAT THEN OF COURSE
THE GAP WOULD BE LARGER BUT BUT
WITH THE ASSUMPTIONS WE'VE GOT
WE'VE JUST ABOUT FILL THE GAP
WITH DIABLO CANYON WHAT YOU'LL
WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO DRAW YOUR
ATTENTION TO IS THAT THIS
SLATE GREEN ACROSS THE BOTTOM
THIS REPRESENTS NATURAL GAS
IN THE SUPPLY STACK AND SO
-- WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT
THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
BASELOAD NEEDS THERE'S A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NATURAL GAS
THAT'S USED IN OUR SYSTEM --
THROUGHOUT THE DAY YOU KNOW
SOME OF THAT IS AUGMENTED
WHEN THERE ARE CERTAIN
LEVELS OF MINIMUM GENERATION
PLANTS HAVE TO OPERATE AT BUT
THE LARGER IS TO FUNCTION
WHEN WE PUT WHEN WE
ADD THIS BLUE BAR ACROSS THE
BOTTOM ONE OF THE THINGS IT DOES
IN THE HOURS OF THE DAY OUTSIDE
OF THIS PEAK IS IT DISPLACES
NATURAL GAS FROM THE STOCK
AND IT ALSO -- HELPS FILL
THIS GAP NOW ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT THE THE CPUC
ARM HAS -- AUTHORIZED
THE PROCUREMENT OF THOSE
CLEAN FIRM GENERATION
-- BASED ON I. R. P. MODELING
SHOWING THAT CERTAINLY BY TWENTY
THIRTY -- IT WILL BE NEEDED TO
MEET THE STATE'S RELIABILITY
IN GREENHOUSE GAS GOALS --
THEY ORDERED IT TO COME ONLINE
IN -- TWENTY TWENTY SIX
WITH B. BECAUSE OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT WERE UNDERSTOOD
ABOUT GETTING GETTING IT ONLINE
IN TWENTY TWENTY SIX WITH SOME
LEEWAY FOR PROJECTS TO COME
ONLINE BY TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT
AND WHEN THE CCC DID THE
-- MID TERM RELIABILITY
OR AUTOMATED IT BASED ON
A HIGH NEED SCENARIO WHICH
ACCOUNTED FOR OR TRYING TO
ACCOUNT FOR HIGHER LOAN GROWTH
THAN EXPECTED SINCE THE
ADOPTION OF -- THE SCENARIO
THOUGH THE MOST RECENT TWENTY
TWENTY ONE I FOR PROJECTS THAT
PEAK DEMAND IN TWENTY TWENTY SIX
MAY ACTUALLY BE EIGHT HUNDRED
MEGAWATTS HIGHER THAN THE HIGH
NEED SCENARIO FORECAST SO WE
ARE DEFINITELY IN AN ENVIRONMENT
OF LOW GROWTH ON
ANOTHER AFTER
WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT
THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER
RESOURCES BEING PROCURED TO
MEET THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND PLUS
MEGAWATTS OF NEW PROCUREMENT
BORDERED BY THE CPUC ARE
EXPECTED TO BE SHORTER DURATION
STORAGE AND HYBRID STORAGE
INSTALLED STORAGE WAS SOLD
RESOURCES FOR THESE RESOURCES
ACTUALLY WILL NOT PROVIDE A
SOURCE OF CARBON FREE ENERGY
AT NIGHT OR IN THE MORNING
RALPH'S BECAUSE BATTERIES OF
THESE HYBRID SITES HAVE TO BE
CHARGED -- BY SOLAR
AND CANNOT BE CHARGED FROM
THE GRID ENERGY SO THEY CANNOT
ACTUALLY BE RECHARGED AT NIGHT
SO THEY'RE NOT SO THEY'RE
AVAILABLE ALSO TO HELP US
MEET THIS RAMP BUT THEY'RE NOT
AVAILABLE FOR OUTSIDE IN THE
EVENINGS AND ON OTHER HOURS
SO -- BASED ON CONSULTATIONS
WITH OUR ALL THE ENERGY
AGENCIES THERE IS A VERY
CLEAR CONCERN THAT WE
JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH --
RESOURCES IN THE PIPELINE
THAT HAVE VIABLE
CHANCES TO COME ONLINE ON
TIME TO MEET THE ORDERED
PROCUREMENT AMOUNTS AND --
THROUGH THE EXTENSION OF THE
CPP WOULD PROVIDE SUBSTITUTE
CARBON FREE ENERGY IN THE
EVENT THAT THESE RENEWABLE
RESOURCES NEEDED TO --
NEEDED TO HELP OPERATE THE
SYSTEM DON'T COME ONLINE ON
TIME PARTICULARLY AS THEY FACE
HEADWINDS SUCH AS SUPPLY CHAIN
CONSTRAINTS INFLATION AND
OTHER KINDS OF UNCERTAINTY SO
WITH THAT -- I'M AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS BUT I'M GOING TO STOP
THE SCREEN SHARE AND TURN THIS
BACK TO ON A MOUNTAIN SOME BILLS
HI MISTER CHAIR THANKS FOR
LETTING ME COME DOWN HERE IT WAS
ALWAYS A WINNER FROM SO PROCEED
BEING ABLE TO BE IN PERSON A
FEW QUICK THINGS OF THAT IS
A IS A CARE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT
KIND OF WHY ARE WE HERE I THINK
THREE KEY THINGS ONE IS CLIMATE
CHANGE IS IMPACTING US FASTER
THAN WE PREVIOUSLY FORECAST IN
OUR DEMAND IS HIGHER AND RISING
AT A FASTER CLIP THAN WE HAD
PREVIOUSLY FORECASTED THAT OUR
TRANSITION TO ELECTRIFICATION IS
HAPPENING -- TED FASTER AS WELL
SO WE ARE SEEING GREATER DEMAND
ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH MORE LIKE
TO CARS AND OTHER ELEMENTS THAT
ARE POSITIVE IN RELATIONSHIP
TO OUR EFFORTS TO COMBAT
CLIMATE CHANGE SECOND PIECE THE
ASSUMPTIONS AROUND SOLAR IN
AND HOW MUCH WE COULD WE COULD
COUNT ON AND PARTICULARLY THE
ANALYSIS AROUND WHAT TIME OF
THE DAY WE'RE SOLVING FOR IN
THE NEEDS OF OUR SOLAR PHASES
OUT WAS A BIT OFF WHICH ROCK
IMPACTED THE AMOUNT OF
PROCUREMENT FOR RESOURCES TO
REPLACE THESE -- PLANNED --
PLANNED -- THE COMMISSIONING AS
WELL IS -- PLANT CLOSURES --
SO IT AFFECTED BOTH THE TIMING
OF THOSE PROCUREMENTS AND THE
AMOUNT THAT WAS PROCURED SO
WE'RE ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE
AND -- BRINGING ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES ONLINE A TAD BEHIND
WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT THIS
MOMENT COUPLED WITH SUPPLY CHAIN
THE CHAIN CHALLENGES TO SHEER
AMOUNT OF STORAGE THAT IS BEING
PRODUCED AT THIS POINT TIME IS
IN A POSITION WHERE WE THINK
IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN
RELIABILITY AND TO DO SO IN
THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY
FOR CALIFORNIA RATEPAYERS AND
TAXPAYERS WE NEED A BIT MORE
TIME WITH THESE RESOURCES WHAT
IS THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU DO
FIRST PIECE THAT IT DOES AND I
WANT TO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU
COLLEAGUES FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK
WITH US ON REFINING THE PROPOSAL
AND ENSURING THAT IT DOES WHAT
WE THINK IS NECESSARY WHICH
IS TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS
FOR AN EXTENSION OF YOUR WILL
CANYON CITIZEN GUARANTEE IT BUT
IT CREATES THE CONDITIONS TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE AN EXTENSION
AND SHORT OF THAT EXTENSION
IS A SHORT AS POSSIBLE FOR
THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME
NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN
THE GOAL OF RELIABILITY AND
-- AND CONTINUING TO MOVE
FORWARD IN OUR TRANSITION --
IT DOES SO IN A WAY THAT IS
DESIGNED TO MAXIMIZE AVAILABLE
FEDERAL FUNDING FOR AN EXTENSION
SO THAT IT CAN BE AGAIN THAT'S
COST EFFECTIVE FOR CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS AND RATEPAYERS --
AND IT ALSO PROVIDES CERTAINTY
TO THE COMMUNITY AND TERMS OF
THE DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS
AND THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS THE
COMMISSION LEGISLATION -- AND
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT
FOLKS KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN WITH THE PAINT WITH THE
DOLLARS THEY'VE RECEIVED AND
THAT WE CONTINUE MOVING ON ON
TRACK -- IN RELATIONSHIP TO
THE CONSERVATION OF THE LAND
THE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT IN A LOT OF THE
WORK THAT THAT THE COMMUNITY
IS ACTIVELY DOING TO PROVIDE FOR
THE FUTURE POST OF DIABLO CANYON
IN TERMS OF -- SO SO IT'S
BASICALLY THE CHANGES ARE IN AND
KIND OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT
POSSIBLE TO DO THAT EXTENSION
MECHANISM FOR HOW FOR WHY
THE GENERAL FUND LOANS ONE OF
THE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP AND
DOUBLE CANYON IS THE ONLY PLANT
IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS ELIGIBLE
FOR FEDERAL FUNDING THAT IS
SPECIFIC TO NUCLEAR POWER THE
WAY IN WHICH THE FEDERAL PROGRAM
IS STRUCTURED IT PROVIDES
REIMBURSEMENT FOR LOSSES SO
IF YOU -- IF YOU MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE GENERAL FUND LOAN WE
BELIEVE THAT THE LOAN WILL NOT
ONLY MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO EXTEND
THIS RESOURCE SO THAT WE CAN
HAVE THE NECESSARY RELIABILITY
WHAT WE CAN DO SO IN A WAY THAT
MAXIMIZES FEDERAL FUNDING AND
THAT IN THE THE US MAKES IT MORE
COST EFFECTIVE FOR CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS AND RATEPAYERS
LEGISLATION INCLUDES IMPORTANT
ELEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
SURE THAT ALL THE REGULATORY
APPROVALS ARE NECESSARY FOR
AN EXTENSION OF KERR BUT THEY
CAN OCCUR AN EXPEDITED MANNER
SO YOU KNOW THE AGENCIES WILL
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
DELVE INTO ALL QUESTIONS AROUND
MAINTENANCE AROUND SAFETY
AROUND -- SURROUND THE
IMPACTS AND NECESSARY MITIGATION
ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTINUED
USE THE ONCE THROUGH COOLING
PLANT AND ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS
BUT THAT THAT WORK CAN HAPPEN
IT EXPEDITED MANNER SO THAT
THIS RESOURCE CAN BE AVAILABLE
IN ONLINE TO CONTINUE IN TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY TWENTY
FIVE THE PROPOSED EXTENSION
IS FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD --
WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF -- OF
REVISITING THAT DURATION --
IN THIS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
PIECES OF THAT WE'RE ALSO
RECOMMENDING IT INCLUDING
THE PROPOSAL ARE DESIGNED TO
ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO MOVE
FAST FAST AS POSSIBLE ON OUR
TRANSITION IMPORTANT GUIDANCE
THAT YOU PROVIDE INCLUDING
FOR EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF THE
RESOURCE PLANNING DONE BY THE
ENERGY AGENCIES NOT COUNTING
ON THIS RESOURCE SO THAT WE'RE
MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
ON THE STORAGE PROJECTS WERE
MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE ON
ON GEOTHERMAL ON OTHER RESOURCES
THAT DIVERSIFY OUR PORTFOLIO
MAINTAIN RELIABILITY AND DO
SO IN A WAY THAT ALIGNS WITH
OUR CLIMATE GOALS AND IT WORKS
FOR STATE SO I'LL STOP THERE
-- THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN
THAT WHATEVER WORKS AND AND
AS I MENTIONED WE'RE GOING
TO GO THROUGH THE PANEL TO
THE COMPLETE PANEL THAT WAY
HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
THAT MEMBERS MAY HAVE FAR ARE
ANSWERED WHEN WE HEAR FROM THE
ENTIRE PANEL SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION WILL NOW GO
TO MISS MARINE IS A WHILE
LIKE -- SHE'S THE VICE
PRESIDENT FOR DECOMMISSIONING
AND TECHNICAL SERVICES WITH
PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC AND
THERE ARE THE ARE THE UTILITY
THAT OWNS THE DIABLO CANYON
FACILITY AND SO IF WE CAN --
TIA MRS WALLICH IS
H. IS SHE ONLINE
OKAY AS WE ARE DO WE HAVE
ANYONE ELSE OF THE PANEL
ONE LINE IS
IT IS HUNTER STERN AVAILABLE
FOUR --
CLOSE TO HAVE TO HAVE ANYBODY
THAT'S ON THE PANEL ON MY
PLEASE ROTH CAVANAUGH HERE --
THERE WERE ARE
YOU ALIVE WHERE ARE THEY
ISTHMUS MARINES WELLEK AVAILABLE
PLEASE HUNDRED PAGES --
HUNTER STERN AVAILABLE
OR RALPH CAVANAGH
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW YES WE
CAN HEAR YOU OKAY WE CAN
SEE AND WE CAN HEAR YOU
OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON CAN
YOU HEAR ME NOW YES WE CAN
WE CAN HEAR YOU CAN YOU CAN HEAR
US BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU OKAY
ALL RIGHT WELL GOOD AFTERNOON
WE HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY
I CHALLENGES HERE SO GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN HUESO AND
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M
MORE IN SYMBOLIC THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF DECOMMISSIONING AND
TECHNICAL SERVICES IN MY ROLE
AT DIABLO CANYON POWER PLANT
MY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE
DECOMMISSIONING A NUCLEAR
FUEL PROCUREMENT SPEND FUEL
STORAGE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE
AND PERMITTING RISK MANAGEMENT
CYBERSECURITY LAND AND
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS I JOIN
P. JEANNIE AND NINETEEN NINETY
SEVEN AND HAVE OVER THIRTY
THREE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN
THE UTILITY AND NUCLEAR SECTOR
I HOLD A DEGREE AND NUCLEAR
ENGINEERING AT RAISE MY TWO
DAUGHTERS HERE IN SAN LUIS
OBISPO ALSO WITH ME TODAY ARE
TOM JONES OUR SENIOR DIRECTOR
OF REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTAL
AND RE PURPOSING AND TYSON
SMITH MANAGING COUNSEL WE
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT HOW
WE ENSURE SAFE AND RELIABLE
OPERATIONS A CLEAN GREENHOUSE
GAS FREE GENERATION FROM DIABLO
CANYON FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR
CUSTOMERS AND CALIFORNIANS
HE IS VERY PROUD OF OUR CLEAN
LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO
CALIFORNIA'S GOLD CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS WHILE WE MAINTAIN -- YOU
KNOW AND REMAIN ON THE PATH
TO DECOMMISSION THE PLANT IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE CURRENT
STATE ENERGY POLICIES WE DO
STAND READY TO SUPPORT THE
STATE'S ENERGY RELIABILITY
NEEDS AS CALIFORNIA TRANSITIONS
TO MORE CLEAN ENERGY RESOURCES
SHOULD STATE POLICY CHANGES
TO EXPAND OPERATIONS OF DIABLO
CANYON THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
NECESSARY FEDERAL AND STATE
REGULATORY APPROVALS NEEDED
THERE ARE ALSO SOME CRITICAL
NEAR TERM ACTIVITIES WE WOULD
HAVE TO QUICKLY UNDERTAKE TO
MAKE A VIABLE OPTION FOR THE
STATE INCLUDING FUNDING OF FUEL
PURCHASING AND IT USED FUEL
MANAGEMENT FUEL PURCHASING AND
YOU STILL MANAGEMENT -- TAKE
ABOUT AT EIGHTEEN MONTHS A TWO
YEAR ON LEAD TIME AND WE
ALSO NEED TO BE WRAPPING UP
A PROJECT TEAM TO SUPPORT THE
NRC LICENSE RENEWAL APPLICATION
AS ALWAYS OUR COMMITMENT AND
FOCUS ARE ON SAFE AND RELIABLE
OPERATIONS MYSELF AND ALL CO
WORKERS LIVE IN THE COMMUNITIES
SURROUNDING THE PLANT AND ARE
DEDICATED TO SAFE OPERATIONS
A FEW FACTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE
ABOUT THE ALBUM SOME OF THEM
HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE --
IT PROVIDES LOW COST CARBON
FREE ELECTRICITY FOR MORE THAN
THREE MILLION PEOPLE THE TWO
UNITS GENERATE -- TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS OF BASELINE
ELECTRICITY AND ALL PLAN
OPERATIONS ARE OVERSEEN AND
MONITORED BY THE U. S. NUCLEAR
REGULATORY COMMISSION AS WELL
AS SEVERAL OTHER INDEPENDENT
INDUSTRY AND EXTERNAL OVERSIGHT
ENTITIES INCLUDING THE DIABLO
CANYON INDEPENDENT SAFETY
COMMITTEE NO OTHER THAN A CLEAR
PLAN IN THE NATION HAS SUCH A
COMMITTEE HAS A DIABLO CANYON
INDEPENDENT SAFETY COMMITTEE
OVERLOOKING ARE SAFE RELIABLE
AND MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS
AT THE PLANT CURRENTLY UNIT
ONE DOWN AS KAREN MENTIONED
AS LICENSE OPERATE UNTIL
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR AND UNIT
TWO IS LICENSE TO OPERATE TO
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE I JUST
WANT TO TOUCH UPON OUR SAFETY
PERFORMANCE HELLO CAN YOU
CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT APPROVAL
FROM THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY
COMMISSION AND NUMEROUS
STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES
THE UNDERSEA RECENT ASSESSMENT
OF DIABLO CANYON JANUARY
ONE THROUGH DECEMBER THIRTY
FIRST OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE
CONCLUDED THAT OVERALL PRESERVE
-- PERFORMANCE PRESERVED IN
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND
PLACES THE PLAN AMONG THE TOP
PERFORMING PLANTS IN THE COUNTRY
THE C. P. P. IS CONTINUALLY
INSPECTED AND ASSESSED BY NRC
INSPECTORS TO ENSURE ITS SYSTEMS
STRUCTURES AND COMPONENTS ARE
OPERATING SAFELY EVERY DAY
THERE ARE TWO FIVE NUCLEAR
REGULATORY COMMISSION INSPECTORS
LOCATED AT DIABLO CANYON THAT
DALY INSPECT THE PLANT AND
ASSESS SAFETY OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE AMONG OTHER THINGS
THEY'RE ALSO OVER TEN TO TWELVE
FOCUSED INSPECTIONS EACH YEAR
THAT LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF
SAFE AND RELIABLE OPERATIONS
AT DIABLO CANYON REGARDING
SEISMIC SAFETY WHERE WE'VE HEARD
A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THAT IS
IMPORTANT TO CONVEY THAT THE
EARTHQUAKE SAFETY WAS AT THE
FOREFRONT AND THE DESIGN OF THIS
FACILITY ON DIABLO CANYON THE U.
S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
HAS THE IN DIABLO CANYON
SEISMICALLY SAFE IF WE WERE
NOT THE MANNER C. WOULD NOT
ALLOW CURRENT OPERATIONS
AS PART OF THE FEDERAL
CONDITIONS TO OPERATE DIABLO
CANYON WE MAINTAIN A LONG TERM
PROGRAM THIS UNIQUE RESEARCH
PROGRAM IS COMPRISED OF
GEOSCIENCES GEOSCIENCES TEAM OF
PROFESSIONALS WHO PARTNER WITH
INDEPENDENT SEISMIC EXPERTS AND
ACADEMIA ON AN ONGOING BASIS
TO EVALUATE REGIONAL GEOLOGY
AND GLOBAL SEISMIC AND TSUNAMI
EVENTS TO INSURE THE FACILITY
REMAINS SAFE BECAUSE OF THIS
PROGRAM AND DECADES OF INDUSTRY
LEADING RESEARCH THE SEISMIC
REGION AROUND DIABLO CANYON
IS AMONG THE MOST STUDIED AND
UNDERSTOOD AREAS IN THE NATION
FOLLOWING THE EVENTS IN JAPAN
TO CUSHION MONTH IN TWO THOUSAND
ELEVEN THE UNDER SIEGE ERECTED
ALL U. S. PLANS TO UNDERGO
A SEISMIC SPREAD AND RISK
REEVALUATION THE SEISMIC HAZARD
ANALYSIS FOR DIABLO CANYON
WAS PERFORMED USING AN NRC
MANDATED PROCESS KNOWN AS THE
SENIOR SEISMIC HAZARD ANALYSIS
COMMITTEE IN THIS PROCESS NEW
AND EXISTING SEISMIC INFORMATION
WAS PEER REVIEWED AND PUBLICLY
EVALUATED BY LEADING THIRD
PARTY INDEPENDENT SEISMIC
EXPERTS THIS UPDATED SEISMIC
EVALUATION REPRESENTS A MORE
EXTENSIVE EVALUATION OF THE
SEISMIC HAZARD THAN PREVIOUSLY
PERFORMED AT INCLUDES THE RISK
OF EARTHQUAKES OCCURRING ON
AN INDIVIDUAL A. N. MULTIPLE
GEOLOGICAL FOLLOWING THIS
PROCESS THE NRC DETERMINED
THAT FOR DIABLO CANYON NO PLANT
SYSTEMS STRUCTURES OR COMPONENTS
IMPORTANT SAFETY WERE IN NEED
OF UPDATING TO PROTECT AGAINST
EARTHQUAKES I LIKE TO FINALLY
-- -- GIVE SOME REMARKS AROUND
MAINTENANCE ANOTHER TOPIC OF
INTEREST WE HAVE MET ALL OF
OUR REQUIRED MAINTENANCE ON
THE PLANT SYSTEMS STRUCTURES
FOR COMPONENTS AGAIN IF WE DID
NOT THE UNIVERSITY WOULD NOT
ALLOW US TO OPERATE WE HAVE
OPTIMIZED PLANT MAINTENANCE
AND SHOULD THE STATE POLICY
CHANGE TO EXTEND OPERATIONS AT
THE PLANT WE WOULD EVALUATE THE
NATIONAL MAINTENANCE NEEDS IN
ADDITION TO THE NRC OVERSIGHT
AND INSPECTIONS OF DIABLO CANYON
INCLUDING MAINTENANCE THE DIABLO
CANYON INDEPENDENT CD COMMITTEE
HAS THOROUGHLY EVALUATE ALL
MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES AT
DIABLO ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND
OTHER INDEPENDENT EXTERNAL
MODERATE OF THE PLANT IS DONE AS
WELL AGAIN WE APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE INFORMATION
ON THE PLANTS GREENHOUSE
GAS FREE SAFE AND RELIABLE
OPERATIONS AND WE'RE HERE TO
HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
WE'LL HEAR FROM HUNTER STERN
HE'S THE BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE
FOR THE INTERNATIONAL
BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS LOCAL TWELVE FORTY FIVE
TO SPEAK ABOUT THE WORKFORCE
CONCERNS AND CONSIDERATIONS
WELCOME MR STERN AND -- WE
CAN SEE YOU WHICH MEANS WE
CAN MOST LIKELY AREAS A FEW
YEAH LET'S HOPE SO MISTER
CHAIRMAN IN YOUR MOUTH
CUNNINGHAM JUST FINE THANK
YOU HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR
INVITING US AND THANK YOU
-- TO YOURSELF YOUR STAFF
AND THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE
AGAIN MY NAME IS HUNTER STERN
I'M WITH IBEW LOCAL TWELVE
FORTY FIVE TWELVE FORTY FIVE
MEMBERS WORK AT DEVIL CANYON
-- THEY ALSO WORK AND WE
REPRESENT WORKERS AT P. JEANNIE
AND TWENTY SEVEN OTHER --
ELECTRIC K. AND GAS UTILITIES
IN NORTHERN CENTER CALIFORNIA
-- AND ALL TOGETHER WE HAVE
TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND MEMBERS
AND ANOTHER -- CHUNK OF MEMBERS
WORKING IN OUR JURISDICTION
DOING LINES KERN ST TRIMMING
AND -- LINE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH
REGARDING -- IT'S TO PROBABLY
WON'T SURPRISE ANYBODY THAT I.
B. W. TWELVE FORTY FIVE SUPPORTS
THE EXTENSION OF DEVIL CANYON
BUT I WANT I DO WANT TO MAKE
CERTAIN THINGS CLEAR ABOUT WHY
THAT IS AND ABOUT HOW IT
WAS WHERE OUR MEMBERS FIND
THEMSELVES IN IN THESE
ISSUES -- AROUND --
A RELIABILITY -- ENERGY
TRANSITION AND -- THE FUTURE
OF OF THE ELECTRIC WORK FORCE
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING HOME
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE
FUTURE -- YOU KNOW WE'RE EXCITED
ABOUT THE TRANSITION ITS ONGOING
-- THE I. B. W. GENERALLY
TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN PARTICULAR
HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND
WE'RE VERY KEEN ON MAKING
THIS WORK BUT I DO HAVE TO
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
THAT THE WATCH WORD TODAY AND
IN THE FUTURE IS RELIABILITY
GREATER RELIABILITY THE
ABILITY TO GET ELECTRICITY
TO ALL CUSTOMERS ALL THE TIME
-- WHAT THE LOAD BECAUSE NO
MATTER WHAT THE PEAK NO MATTER
WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
AT TWELVE FORTY FIVE SUPPORT
C. EXTENSION OF DEVIL CANYON
-- GOOD FOR OUR FOUR HUNDRED
MEMBERS WORKING AT DOUBLE CANYON
RELIEF OVER TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED MEMBERS WORKING DROUGHT
PG&E AND THEN THE REMAINING
THOUSANDS -- WORKING TO HELP
ENSURE SAFE AND RELIABLE --
POWER DELIVERED TO ALL CUSTOMERS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THAT
MEANS ALL CUSTOMERS PG&E IN
PARTICULAR BUT ALL CUSTOMERS
TO CREATE IS THIS CALIFORNIA
GRID IS CONNECTED AND THESE
ARE IMPORTANCE THESE ARE
IMPORTANT AND KEY ELEMENTS
OF OUR WORK AND OUR SERVICE
-- SO THE WORKERS POINT OF
VIEW DABBLE CANYON -- I'D
NEVER WORK TOGETHER AGAIN AND
I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND TO AND TO
BE AS CAPABLE AS THOSE WORKERS
ARE -- BUT IT IS A UNIQUE
WORKPLACE -- AS --
AS WE'VE HEARD ALREADY THERE IS
THERE ARE INSPECTORS ON SITE --
REGULARLY -- EVERY DAY -- AND
THEY AND MY MEMBERS TELL ME THAT
THEY WILL POP UP -- ANNOUNCED
IT ANY PLACE AT ANY TIME FROM
WHICH IS WHAT THE INSPECTOR
SHOULD DO -- THE COMMITMENT
OF THE OF THE MEMBERSHIP THEY'RE
WORKING A DOUBLE CANYON BOTH
SAFE WORK PRACTICES AND TO
-- RATIONAL ATTITUDE
IN THAT I'VE SEEN WHAT I'VE
TOURED THE PLANT -- AND WHAT
I'VE HEARD FROM THEM WHEN
I TALK TO THE MEMBERS --
IS I THINK SECOND TO NONE --
I'M YOU KNOW WE ARE OBVIOUSLY
PROUD OF ALL OUR OUR MEMBERS
AND THE WORK THEY DO THROUGHOUT
THE SYSTEM IN PARTICULAR IN
ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS BUT
AS I SAID THE APPLICATION USING
THIS UNIQUE PLACE WITH UNIQUE
CHALLENGES -- I DO WANT TO ADD
TO IT IN ADDITION TO THE SAFETY
INTERESTING CONCERNS A
PARTICULAR THE NUCLEAR OPERATORS
THE OF THE EVERY ALL OF OUR
MEMBERS A DIABOLO TO TRAIN
FOR EMERGENCY CONDITIONS --
FOR UNEXPECTED -- EVENTS
AND CONTINGENCIES -- BUT THE
NUCLEAR OPERATORS SPECIFICALLY
THE REACTOR OPERATORS WHO
ARE LICENSE EACH OF THEM
WHO ARE LICENSED BY THE NRC
-- GO THROUGH A FIVE WEEK --
SCHEDULE ONE OF THOSE FIVE
WEEKS EACH EACH CREW
IS DOING TRACK THINGS AND
SPECIFICALLY SITTING IN THE
SIMULATOR AND GETTING TESTED
BASICALLY CHALLENGED BY
EMERGENCY SCENARIOS IN WHICH
THEY HAVE TO RESPOND IN THIS
IN IN THIS SIMULATOR -- AND
DISCUSS THEIR RESPONSE SO
ON AN ONGOING BASIS LITERALLY
TEN TIMES A YEAR OF THOSE
OPERATORS ARE GETTING THROWN
ANY NUMBER OF CURVEBALL CITY
OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM AT
ANY TIME AND I I I THINK THAT
HAVING TALKED TO THEM -- HAVING
SPOKEN WITH THE CHALLENGE THAT
THAT COMES AND ALSO THAT IS
FREE TO CORE THAT CREATES AMONG
AMONG THE OPERATORS AND AMONG
ALL THE WORKERS AT THE PLANT
-- IT DOES PROVIDE A VERY
GOOD FOUNDATION FOR PEOPLE
COMING TO WORK EVERY DAY
I'VE BEEN CUT IN AND ENSURING
THAT THEY CAN GO HOME SAFELY
AND WHEN THEIR SHIFT IS DONE
-- SO I THINK THE LAST THING
I'D LIKE TO TOUCH UPON IS
THE JOINT PROPOSAL AGREEMENT
TWELVE FORTY FIVE IS A MEMBER
-- IS A SIGNATORY -- AND
WE ARE ALSO A MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA UTILITIES EMPLOYEES
COALITION WHICH ALSO SIGN --
HEY WE CONSIDER OURSELVES
IS HONORING THE COMMITMENTS
-- AND SPECIFICALLY THAT CHOI
PROPOSAL -- AND I WON'T MENTION
ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE LIST
FOR THE JOINT PROPOSAL TO
RETIRED YEAH WELL CANYON AND
REPLACE IT WITH A PORTFOLIO OF
GHG FREE RESOURCES
THAT WAS THE FUNDAMENTAL
COMMITMENT AND FOR A VARIETY
OF REASONS THOSE RESOURCES ARE
NOT AVAILABLE AND -- YOU KNOW
AGAIN I WON'T GO OVER THE WORK
THAT WAS ALREADY DONE BY THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND AND OTHERS
PREVIOUSLY HE TO UNDERSTAND THAT
THOSE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE
BUT WE ARE WE STAND READY TO
HONOR OUR COMMITMENTS -- AND
CLOSE THE AND AND HAVE THE PLANT
CLOSED WHEN WE KNOW THAT THE
RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND WE
ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THANK
YOU WE ASK YOU TO STICK AROUND
IF YOU WOULD FOR ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION I WILL --
GO WOULD HEAR FROM RALPH
CAVANAGH HE'S THE ENERGY PROGRAM
CO DIRECTOR WITH THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL
-- MR KAVANAUGH WE SEE YOU
YOUR HUESO PLAN WE HEAR
YOU JUST FINE PLEASE
YOUR HUESO SENATORS ON RAIL
CABANA REPRESENTING THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL MORE
THAN SIX YEARS AGO I WAS HONORED
TO BE AMONG THE STRIKINGLY
DIVERSE GROUP THAT ANNOUNCED
THE JOINT PROPOSAL TO RETIRE
REPLACE DIABLO CANYON OF HUNTERS
JUST DISCUSS THAT PROPOSAL
NATIONAL AND LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS REPRESENTATIVES OF
PLANTS WORKERS AN OWNER AND
WE WERE JOINED SOON AFTER THE
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE LEADERSHIP
OF THE PLANTS HOST COMMUNITIES
HELP A FEW CRITICAL FEATURES
OF THAT AGREEMENT FIRST IT
WAS A LIFE EXTENSION AGREEMENT
FOR DIABLO CANYON EXTENDED A
CRITICAL STATE PERMIT BY SEVEN
YEARS THAT AGREEMENT IS THE
REASON WHY DIABLO CANYON WILL
BE AROUND THIS SUMMER AND NEXT
SUMMER IN THE SUMMER AFTER
THAT IN FOR UNIT TO AUGUST OF
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE BY HELPING
TO MAKE SURE THAT CALIFORNIA
HAS RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE
POWER WATCH THE JOINT PROPOSAL
ALSO RESTED ANALYSIS SHOWING
THE COSTS FOR DIABLO CANYON
WOULD RISE SIGNIFICANTLY
AFTER TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AND
THAT THE PLANT WOULD BE AN
INCREASINGLY POOR FIT WITH THE
RAPIDLY EVOLVING CALIFORNIA
ELECTRICITY GRID SO WE PROVIDED
IS HUNTER SAID FOR REPLACEMENT
OF THE PLANT WITH THE PORTFOLIO
ZERO CARBON RESOURCES WHICH
WOULD REDUCE COSTS AND IMPROVE
RELIABILITY AND WE PROVIDED FOR
IN RECOMMENDED COMPENSATION FOR
THE WORKERS TO RETAIN THEM ON
THE JOB WITH THE COMMUNITIES TO
HELP THEM WITH THE TRANSITION
AND IS I THINK MY FRIEND HUNTER
STERN AND WILK KNOWLEDGE ALL OF
THOSE PROMISES HAVE BEEN KEPT
IN PART BECAUSE YOU SENATORS
RATIFIED BATTERED GREEN MEANT
ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY IN SENATE
BILL TEN NINETY AUTHORED BY THEN
MAJORITY LEADER BILL MONICA AND
REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLYMAN JORDAN
CUNNINGHAM SO THE QUESTION
FOR US TODAY IS WHAT HAS
CHANGED THAT MATTERS IT WOULD
CAUSE YOU TO REPUDIATE AN
AGREEMENT YOU RATIFIED ALMOST
UNANIMOUSLY FOUR YEARS AGO
WHAT IS MISSING FROM THE VERY
THOROUGH BACKGROUND REPORT IT
WAS SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE OF THIS
HEARING AND FROM COMMISSIONER
DOUGLAS IS VERY THOROUGH AND
WE'LL REMARKS AND I BETTER RATE
HER AND THIS IS NOT THERE'S
NO ATTACK ON HER BUT SOMETHING
WAS MISSING FROM ALL OF THAT
WAS MISSING BECAUSE OF THEIR
IT WAS THEIR FAULT IT WAS
MISSING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
EXIST AND WHAT DOESN'T EXIST
IS A PUBLISHED REPORT BY ANY OF
THE STATE'S ENERGY REGULATORY
AGENCIES RECOMMENDING AT DIABLO
CANYON LIFE EXTENSION FOR
COMPARING IT WITH THE COST AND
AVAILABILITY OF ALTERNATIVES
WHAT IS MISSING IS ANY
ASSESSMENT BY DIABLO CANYON'S
OWNER WHOM YOU JUST HEARD
FROM OR ANY OTHER CALIFORNIA
UTILITIES FOR COMMUNITY
CHOICE AGGREGATOR PROVIDING A
RATIONALE FOR LIFE EXTENSION
WHAT YOUR DOG WILL SHOW YOU
IS A NEED FOR AND WHAT UNDER
TESTIFIED TO IS A NEED TO
ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
DURING SOME HOURS OF THE DAY
IN SEPTEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY
FIVE AN AFTERWARD AND THE
OBVIOUS QUESTION IS WELL WHAT
ARE OUR ALTERNATIVES AND WHAT
ARE OUR BEST CHOICES IN NORMALLY
IN CALIFORNIA WE ANSWERED
THAT QUESTION BY CONDUCTING
A CONFERENCE A COMPETITIVE
TEST WE GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS
WE CAN LOOK FOR RESOURCES ALL
OVER A GIGANTIC WESTERN GRID
BUT SEVEN TIMES THE SIZE OF
TEXAS THAT EXTENDS WELL BEYOND
SAN LUIS OBISPO A MARVELOUS
PLACE BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY
OF THAT INSTEAD IF YOU ARE
BEING ASKED IN THE FINAL DAYS
OF THIS SESSION TO DECLARE
A VERY EXPENSIVE WINNER IN
A COMPETITION THAT YOU WANNA
LIKE CHRISTY REGULATORS HAVEN'T
ORGANIZED OR EVEN ANALYZED
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS
WILL COST OR WHO WILL PAY
ALTHOUGH MARC TONY WILL HAVE
PLENTY TO SAY ABOUT BOTH IN A
MOMENT AND YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD
THERE MAY BE FEDERAL SUBSIDIES
GIANT FEDERAL SUBSIDIES BUT
WHAT WASN'T MENTIONED WAS
A SUBMISSION TO THE U. S.
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY BY NRDC
AND NUMEROUS OTHER PARTIES
INCLUDING FRIENDS OF THE EARTH
JOIN THE T. MOBILE CANYON
DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR THOSE
FEDERAL SUBSIDIES WHICH ARE ONLY
AVAILABLE THE NUCLEAR PLANTS
EXPOSED TO COMPETITIVE MARKETS
WHO ARE SMOKING DOCUMENT ARE
COLLABORATING LOSSES CANYON IS
NEITHER YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN
NO REMOTELY ADEQUATE REASON
HERE IN THE FINAL DAYS OF
THIS SESSION TO REPUDIATE A
RETIREMENT AND REPLACEMENT
AGREEMENT THAT YOU RATIFIED
ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY FOUR YEARS
AGO YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN GRAPHS
INDICATING THAT WE MAY NEED
EIGHTEEN HUNDRED MEGAWATTS
DURING CERTAIN HOURS IN TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE WHERE MIGHT YOU GET
EIGHTEEN HUNDRED MEGAWATTS WELL
IN TWO THOUSAND TWO THOUSAND
ONE WHEN WE HAD A STATEWIDE
ELECTRICITY CRISIS THAT MANY
OF YOU REMEMBER WELL THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ORGANIZED
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND DEMAND
RESPONSE CAMPAIGNS THAT CUT
OUR ELECTRICITY USE DURING PEAK
HOURS BY FORTY EIGHT HUNDRED
MEGAWATTS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE
CAPACITY AT DIABLO CANYON IN
A MATTER OF MONTHS AND WE'RE
LOOKING OUT TODAY AT THREE
YEARS IF I WERE ASKED FOR
THE PERFECT PERSON TO LEAD A
SIMILAR CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR
NEWSOM I'D PICK KAREN DOUGLAS
SENATORS ONE LAST THING I WANT
YOU TO KNOW THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE
KNOW ABOUT THE JOINT PROPOSAL
A RETIREMENT PLACE YOU HAVE A
CANYON THE INSTIGATOR THE MAN
WHO STARTED THE UPPER AND WAS
CRITICAL TO ITS SUCCESS WAS A
LONGTIME SKEPTIC AN ADVERSARY
OF PGD BY THE NAME OF S. DAVID
FREEMAN AND MANY OF YOU KNEW HIM
NEGOTIATIONS WHICH HE CATALYZED
BEGAN ON HIS NINETIETH BIRTHDAY
AND PGD GRACIOUSLY GRACIOUSLY
GAVE HIM A BIRTHDAY CAKE
YEAH I KNOW WHAT DO YOU
FRIEDMAN WOULD HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
THIS PROPOSAL TO EFFECTIVELY
REPUDIATE HIS EXTRAORDINARY
ACHIEVEMENT WHICH HE SHARED
WITH MANY OTHERS WITHOUT ANY OF
IT WOULD BE REMOTELY CREDIBLE
SO I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO
VOICE HIM I'M SIMPLY GOING TO
CLOSE BY ASKING YOU TO HONOR
HIS LEGACY AT THE MAGNIFICENT
PRESIDENT THAT HE INSPIRED IN
THAT JOINT PROPOSAL WITH THE
WORKERS WITH THE COMMUNITIES
WITH SO MANY WE'VE WORKED SO
LONG AND THE OUTLOOK AND AND
I'M ASKING YOU TO DECLINE
THE INVITATION TO REPUDIATE
THAT LEGACY THAT PRESIDENT
THANK YOU FOR OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NOW WILL GO
TO THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF
THE COUNTY OF THE SAN LUIS
SAN LUIS OBISPO BRUCE GIPSON
WE SEE YOU MAYBE
YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING
TO A TEST TO MAKE SURE GIPSON
RIGHT MISTER SUPERVISORS
WRITING BY YEAH WE GOT WE
HEAR YOU JUST TRYING TO YEAR
YES I AM I HEAR YOUR AUDIO IS
COMING IN JUST A BIT MISTER
CHAIRMAN WE HEAR YOU PERFECTLY
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN I AM VERY STUDENTS
AND ON THE SECOND DISTRICT
SUPERVISOR FOR THE COUNTY AND
OKAY I'LL BEGIN AGAIN I AM VERY
SUSAN I AM THE SECOND DISTRICT
SUPERVISOR FOR THE COUNTY OF
SAN LUIS OBISPO AND CURRENTLY
CHAIR OF OUR BOARD I'M HERE
TO DETECT OUTLINED ISSUES
THAT ARE OF IMPORTANCE TO SAN
LUIS OBISPO COUNTY AND ITS
RESIDENTS I WANT TO EMPHASIZE
THAT THE COUNTY HAS NOT SEEN
ANY OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE
LEGISLATION REGARDING THIS
PARTICULAR DECISIONS AND WE DO
NOT HAVE A FORMAL POSITION ON
D. ISSUES IS
MY AUDIO YES AND HEAR YOU
JUST FINE WE ARE YOU ONE
THE ISSUES I'M GONNA REFERENCE
HAVE BEEN COMPILED AND
DISCUSSED BY SENATOR LETTER DO
I UNDERSTAND IS IT APPOINTED
TO IT TODAY AS SOON AS THE
POLICE TO GAIN MEMBERS AND
WE'LL DISCUSS THAT -- YOU KNOW
GET I WOULD EMPHASIZE THE DIABLO
CANYON HAS BEEN A HUGE ISSUE
IN SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY FOR
QUITE A LONG TIME ITS BENEFITS
HAVE BEEN RIGHTLY CELEBRATED AND
ITS WRISTS HAVE BEEN ROBUSTLY
DEBATED -- AND RECENTLY THE
COUNTY AND ITS RESIDENTS HAVE
BEEN GIVEN A NEW REASON TO
ENGAGE ON THE QUESTION OF THIS
PARTICULAR FACILITY AS OF THE
TRANSITION TOWARD ITS EVENTUAL
CLOSURE IS BEING CONSIDERED --
I WOULD EMPHASIZE THAT THERE
HAD BEEN CONSIDERABLE WORK
INVESTED IN THE SIX YEARS SINCE
THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED TO
TO PREPARE THE COUNTY FOR FOR
THAT TRANSITION IN FACT I WOULD
SUBMIT THAT IT COULD BE REGARDED
AS THE MOST IMPORTANT A LONG
TERM ISSUE THAT ARE COUNTY
FACES DISCARDS ITS ECONOMIC
FUTURE -- CURRENTLY
I THINK OF WE UNDERSTAND
THE CASE TO BE MADE ABOUT A
SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF CARBON
FREE ELECTRICITY AND WE
ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S --
THEN IT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE
STATE I WANT TO EMPHASIZE
AT THE START BEFORE GETTING
INTO WITH THE LIST OF THE
ISSUES THAT ARE ALIGNED --
LOS WEEK WITHOUT SENATOR
LAYERED ANALYSIS OF THIS
ISSUE -- AND THAT IT HAS BEEN
CONFIRMED AS WELL BY A LETTER
THAT YOU STAFFERS RECEIVED
FROM THE MAYORS OF THE SEVEN
INCORPORATED CITIES OF SAN LUIS
OBISPO COUNTY PLUS THE CITIES OF
SANTA MARIA AND LONG POKE IN
SANTA BARBARA COUNTY REPRESENTED
BY SENATOR TOMORROW --
I WANTED JUST TO GO BRIEFLY
THROUGH OF AS THE CATEGORIES OF
THE ISSUES IN GENERAL THERE ARE
FOUR FIRST AND FOREMOST AS YOU
CERTAINLY WOULD EXPECT AND IS
AND IS OFTEN INDICATED SAFETY
OF THE ON THE SAME OPERATION
OF THIS PLAN IS OF PARAMOUNT
IMPORTANCE OF THE BENEFIT TO THE
STATE AS A WHOLE IS UNDERSTOOD
WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT ANY
-- ANY ACCIDENT OR DIABLO
CANYON COULD IT DOES DOES
IT IT'S AFFECTS DIRECTLY ON
THE COUNTY SAN LUIS OBISPO AND
POTENTIALLY IT'S RESIDENTS SO
UNDER THE HEADING OF SAFETY
THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY
RESPONSE PROGRAM SEISMIC
RETROFIT -- THAT MIGHT GO BEYOND
THE DECISIONS OF THE NUCLEAR
REGULATORY COMMISSION -- THE
OVERALL SAFE OPERATION OF THE
PLANT PARTICULARLY AGAINST
LONG TERM STAFFING AS THE
PLANT DOES PRODUCE AN EVENTUAL
CLOSURE -- AND THE HANDLING
AND DISPOSITION OF CITY FUEL
AGAIN ALL THESE ISSUES WE
KNOW HAVE BEEN INTENSELY STUDY
BUT WE THINK YOU CAN SAY I
SPECIALLY RELEVANT IF THE
DECISION TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF
THIS PLAN IS UNDER CONSIDERATION
THE SECOND CATEGORY IS CERTAINTY
GOING FORWARD THE CIVIC WE
THAT WE WOULD EXPECT A DATE
CERTAIN FOR THE CLONE EVENTUAL
CLOSURE OF THE PLANT SHOULD AN
EXTENSION RANTED THAT
THAT IT IMPACTS BOTH THE SAFETY
ISSUES THAT I REFERENCED ABOVE
AND THE ECONOMIC TRANSITION
ISSUES THAT ARE REFERENCED IN
THE NEXT CATEGORY BOB COUPLED
WITH THAT DATE CERTAIN WE
WOULD EXPECT WHAT IT IS AND
THEN LOOSELY DESCRIBED AS A
MARSHALL PLAN FOR THE DEPLOYMENT
OF THE RENEWABLE ENERGY SECTOR
WILL EVENTUALLY FILL THE GAP
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE FIVE
YEARS OR HOWEVER MANY YEARS
AGO OF POTENTIAL EXTENSION IS
GRANTED WE WOULD NOT WANT TO
BE HERE AGAIN RECONSIDERING
-- BECAUSE WE HAD FAILED TO
DEPLOY THE RENEWABLES THAT WE
KNOW ARE NEEDED FOR THE LONG
TERM FUTURE OF THE STATE THE
THIRD CATEGORY IS THE ECONOMIC
FUTURE SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY
AND -- IN THE WE
HAVE INVESTED AS A SAID QUITE
A BIT OF EFFORT IN PLANNING FOR
THAT FUTURE -- WE KNOW DIABLO
IS GOING TO CLOSE EVENTUALLY --
WE HAVE BEEN GRATEFUL TO
RECEIVE THE RESOURCES THAT
WERE PROVIDED UNDER S. YOU CAN
NINETY I WOULD POINT OUT THAT
SOME OF THE MONIES THAT MUCH
MANY OF THE DOLLARS HAVE BEEN
EXPANDED ALREADY AND WE WOULD
EXPECT THAT NONE OF THAT MONEY
THE REQUESTED TO BE -- DEMANDED
TO BE RETURNED AND IN FACT
BECAUSE THE THE EFFORTS THAT
ARE UNDERWAY -- YOU MAY GET
PUT ON PAUSE IF AN EXTENSION IS
GRANTED -- WE THINK THERE IS A
CASE IN THE FUTURE FOR INCREASED
FUNDING ONCE WE KNOW WHEN THE
ECONOMIC TRANSITION OF OUR
COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO
RECOVER SECOND WE HAVE
EXCITING NEW OPPORTUNITIES
IN THE DEPLOYMENT OF OFFSHORE
WIND THAT ARE CONNECTED TO
OUR A LECTURE PROGRAM --
AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THE
THE TRAGEDY ANY EXTENSION
OF DIABLO CANYON DOES NOT
GET IN THE WAY OF DEPLOYING
OUR RESOURCES FOR THE LONG TERM
FUTURE AND FINALLY THE PARCEL
PARKRIDGE THIS PLANT THIS SO
CALLED PERSONAL P. HAS BEEN THE
SUBJECT OF CONSIDERABLE INTEREST
WITHIN OUR COUNTY A GOOD HEAD OF
PLANNING FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT GROUP CALLED REACH
-- WORKING WITH THE LEADER
OF CALIPARI'S SAN LUIS OBISPO
HAS SEEN GREAT OPPORTUNITIES
FOR THAT SITE IN THE FUTURE
AND WE WOULD NOT WANT ANY OF
THAT WORKS WE WOULD LIKE THAT
WERE NOT TO BE DISRUPTED TO
THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE
AND FINALLY OF EXTRAORDINARILY
HIGH INTEREST IN OUR COUNTY
IS THE CONSERVATION OF THE
TWELVE THOUSAND ACRES OF THE
LAND SURROUNDING TOTAL TWELVE
THOUSAND ACRES TO P. JEANNIE
DOES CONTROL SURROUNDING THE
PLAN IT'S BEEN A LONG HELD
DREAM OF SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY
RESIDENTS THAT DOES LAND SPEED
CONCERT AND PROVIDED FOR
THE ENJOYMENT OF THE PUBLIC
THROUGH A PUBLIC ACCESS AND
RESOURCE PROTECTION WE CERTAINLY
UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE
OF THOSE PLANS TO OUR NATIVE
AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES
IN RESIDENTS OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
COUNTY AND HAVE BEEN WORKING
CLOSELY WITH THEM DEVELOPING A
CONSERVATION CONDITION -- WE
BELIEVE THAT THOSE CONSERVATION
EFFORTS SHOULD CONTINUE
THROUGH -- ANY POTENTIAL
EXTENSION OF THE OPERATION OF
DIABLO CANYON'S THAT THEY NOT
BE PUT ON HOLD AND IN FACT
-- WE WOULD EXPECT THAT
THERE ARE THE POSSIBILITY OF
EXTENSION WOULD IN FACT HE
SAID THE FINAL DETERMINATION
OF WHAT HAPPENS TO TO THOSE
PLANS WE LIKE TO BE SURE THAT
THE INTERESTS OF ALL PARTIES
CAREFULLY CONSIDERED AS WE MOVE
FORWARD TO PRESERVE WHAT IS
AN EXCEPTIONAL AND EXTRAORDINARY
PIECE OF THE CALIFORNIA COAST
WITH THAT MISTER CHAIRMAN I'VE
I'VE OUTLINED THOSE THINGS
THAT ARE OF GREAT IMPORTANCE
TO SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY
AND ITS RESIDENTS AGAIN I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMITTEE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE
APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION
TODAY NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM KIM
KIM TOFINO TO SPEAK ABOUT THE
NATURAL RESOURCE CONSIDERATIONS
REPRESENTING THE DEFENDERS OF
WELL WILDLIFE IN THE CALIFORNIA
COASTAL PROTECTION NETWORK
WE HAVE MISTER FINO HERE WELCOME
AND YOU READY TO GO THANK YOU
CAN YOU HEAR ME YES PERFECTLY
RIGHT GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK TODAY MY NAME AS YOU
NOTED THAT YOU KNOW AND I AM
HERE REPRESENTING DEFENDERS
OF WILDLIFE AND CALIFORNIA
COASTAL PROTECTION AT WORK I'VE
BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK ON ISSUES
RELATING TO HOW THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL FOR EXTENDING THE
OPERATION OF DIABLO CANYON'S A
DEVIL CANYON IMPAX ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTIONS LET ME DO A
QUICK SUMMARY -- BEFORE I GET
INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH
CONCERNS ARE ISSUE HERE AS NOTED
BY THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER DIABLO
CANYON'S AN OLD NUCLEAR POWER
PLANT CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO GO
OFFLINE ENGINEERS AND THEREFORE
IT DOES NOT A LOT OF DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE VERY PACKED SPENT
WILL COOL AND GRIDDLED REACTOR
AND IT EXISTS CLOSE TO FOUR
-- EGBERTS QUICK FAULTLINES IN
ADDITION ACCORDING TO THE STATE
WATER BOARD EVERY DAY ROUGHLY
TWO AND A HALF BILLION GALLONS
OF SEAWATER SLOSHING DIABLOS
ENORMOUS INSTITUTES COOLING
THE HOT STEAM HEATED BY NUCLEAR
REACTORS AND A WARM WATER
THEN WASH BACK IN THE C. BRING
SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS
ON OCEAN RESOURCES ANIMALS
INCLUDING FISH SEA LIONS TURTLES
AND OTHER CREATURES WHICH ARE
KILLED BY THE MILLIONS MAKE NO
MISTAKE CONTINUING TO OPERATE
DIABLO CANYON BEYOND TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE WILL HAVE SERIOUS
IMPACTS ON OUR ENVIRONMENT
I WANNA WALK THROUGH HOW THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL OVERWRITES
EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTIONS AND STATE AGENCY
JURISDICTIONS ONE THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL CONTAINS MULTIPLE
SEQUEL EXEMPTIONS INCLUDING
CLASSIFYING THE OPERATIONS
OF THE OUTLOOK MANION CANYON
AS A MINISTERIAL EXEMPTION
AND AN EXEMPTION FROM CEQA FOR
ALL PERMITS LEASES LICENSES
CERTIFICATIONS CONCURRENCE
PLANS DECISIONS FOR APPLICATIONS
TO STATE AGENCIES AND FINALLY
AN EXEMPTION FROM THE LOAN
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE W.
R. AND P. JEANNIE CONSEQUAT
ESSENTIALLY NOTHING ASSOCIATED
WITH THE ESSENTIAL EXTENSION
OF DIABLO CANYON WOULD BE
SUBJECT TO SEE WHAT AND IT'S
PUBLIC REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT
PROCESS CHIU THE BILL HAS
WRITTEN A LANGUAGE THAT WE
SEEN AS WRITTEN PURPOSEFULLY
TO LIMIT THE SCOPE OF PUBLIC
TRUST AGENCIES ANALYSES AND
DIRECTS PREDETERMINED OUTCOMES
FOR PERMITS AND APPROVALS
OR COMBINATION OF SPECIFIC
FINDINGS AND STATUTORY LANGUAGE
THAT DIRECTS AGENCIES TO
ADOPT THE LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS
THESE LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS
DIRECT SPECIFIC OUTCOMES AND
DETERMINATION FROM AGENCIES
REMOVES AGENCY DISCRETION AND
OVERRIDE STATE AND FEDERAL
LAW THE FINDINGS WHEN THEY'RE
COUPLED WITH THE STATUTORY
DIRECTIVES USE THE LEGISLATIVE
BINDING CONSTRAINTS WHAT THE
AGENCIES CAN CONSIDER AS PART
OF THEIR REVIEW AND ESSENTIALLY
DICTATES WHAT SHOULD BE A FINAL
DECISION THIS WOULD IMPACT
THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION THE
STATE WATER BOARD AND STATE
COASTAL CONSERVE OUR COASTAL
COMMISSION THREE THE BILL
OVERRIDES THE COASTAL ACT
AND THE FEDERAL COASTAL ZONE
MANAGEMENT ACT AS WELL AS
COASTAL COMMISSION JURISDICTION
UNDER THE FEDERAL COASTAL
ZONE MANAGEMENT ACT THERE
MUST BE FEDERAL CONSISTENCY
DETERMINAR REVIEWS A FEDERAL
AGENCY FEDERALLY PERMITTED AND
FEDERALLY FUNDED ACTIVITIES
VIEW IS THEN DELEGATED TO THE
COASTAL COMMISSION AND THE
COMMISSION STANDARD OF REVIEW
IS THE ENFORCEABLE POLICIES
FOUND WITHIN CHAPTER THREE OF
THE COASTAL ACT THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL AMENDS CHAPTER THREE OF
THE COASTAL ACT AND SPECIFICALLY
ORDERS THE COMMISSION TO PERMIT
THE OPERATIONS OF DIABLO CANYON
UNTIL JANUARY ONE THIRTY TWENTY
THIRTY ONE BASICALLY THIS IS
A LEGISLATIVE OVERRIDE OF THE
COASTAL COMMISSION'S OBLIGATIONS
UNDER THE FEDERAL COASTAL ZONE
MANAGEMENT ACT AND IT IS AN
ENACTED EIGHT THIS KIND OF CRIME
OVERRIDE IS UNPRECEDENTED IN
NATURE FOR THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL OVERRIDES AND DELAYED
COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE WATER
BOARDS ONCE THROUGH COOLING
POLICY UNTIL TWENTY THIRTY
AND IT LIMITS MITIGATION FEES
AND DIRECTLY PROHIBIT A STATE
WATER BOARD BROWN IMPOSING
-- ONE TOWERS AT THE POTENTIAL
MITIGATION MEASURE THIS KIND
OF PROHIBITION ON WHAT THE
STATE BOARD CAN OR CANNOT
CONSIDER AS MITIGATION IS ALSO
UNPRECEDENTED FINALLY THE
NEWEST VERSION OF THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL INEXPLICABLY PUTS THE
CALIFORNIA GENESEE AND NOT THE
COASTAL COMMISSION IN CHARGE
OF DETERMINING WHAT WILL BE
THE FUTURE USE OF DIABLO CANYON
RANCH AFTER THE POWER PLANT
CLOSES AND PROVIDES REALLY NO
GUIDELINES OTHER THAN A VAGUE
DIRECTIVE THAT THE PC MUST
DETERMINE WHAT'S IN THE BEST
INTERESTS OF A VARIETY PARTY
THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE
TO HAND OVER THIS KIND OF
DECISION MAKING THE FUTURE OF
AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE COASTAL
DOWN TO AN AGENCY THAT HAS NO
NATURAL RESOURCE COVERS THAT'S
A REQUIREMENT FOR RESPONSIBILITY
NOT AND WALKED THROUGH THE VERY
THIN FORMATIONS OVERRIDE EFFORTS
TO RESTORE VITAL STANDARDS
LET ME EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS
UNNECESSARY AND SHOULD BE
REJECTED FIRST THERE IS NO
LEGITIMATE REASON TO PREVENT ANY
OF THIS RELEVANT STATE AGENCIES
FROM DOING THEIR JOBS IN
CARRYING OUT ADMINISTERING OUR
STATE AND FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL
LAWS THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT
THAT ALL STATE PERMITS AND
APPROVALS MUST BE SECURED FOR AN
APPLICATION FOR RE LICENSING ITS
FINAL TO THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY
COMMISSION NOR IS THERE A
REQUIREMENT THAT ALL PERMITS AND
APPROVALS MUST BE SECURED BEFORE
FILING AN APPLICATION WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY FOR
GRANTS INSTEAD OF ALL YOU NEED
IS A PATHWAY FOR PERMALINK AND
THERE IS A PATHWAY HERE THE
PATHWAY IS TO LET THE AGENCIES
SPEND THE NEXT TWO YEARS DOING
THEIR JOBS WHICH LEADS ME
TO MY SECOND POINT AS TO WHY
IT'S UNNECESSARY TO CONSTRAIN
AGENCY DISCRETION OR UNDERMINE
ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS I THINK
THAT THE AGENCIES HAVE MORE
THAN TWO YEARS BEFORE TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE THIS IS PLENTY
OF TIME FOR THEM TO DO THEIR
JOBS FOR EXAMPLE THE COASTAL
COMMISSION HAS ISSUED DOZENS
OF COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS
FOR CALIFORNIA'S THREE COASTAL
NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS OVER
THE LAST FORTY YEARS WITHOUT
LEVERAGING CLOSURE MORE
INTERESTING POWER GENERATION
FINALLY AND I CANNOT EMPHASISE
UNNECESSARILY OVER WRITING OUR
BEDROCK ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND
THE JURISDICTION OF THE COASTAL
COMMISSION STATE WATER BOARD
AND STATE LANDS COMMISSION
SETS A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT EASY
AGENCIES ARE LAWS ARE IN PLACE
TO ENSURE THAT DECISIONS ARE
MADE TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND
NATURAL RESOURCES AND FRANKLY
I CANNOT THINK OF A BETTER
EXAMPLE OF WHEN WE NEED TO USE
THE FLIGHTS THAT IN GRANTING
AN EXTENSION THE OPERATING
LIFE OF AN AGING NUCLEAR
POWER PLANTS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
LAWS ARE NOT A NICE TO HAVE
KIND OF MEASURE THEY ARE A
MUST HAVE KIND OF MEASURE AND
THEREFORE I WOULD URGE IF THE
LEGISLATURE CHOOSES TO MOVE
FORWARD ANY KIND OF LEGISLATION
PERTAINING TO THE APPLE CANYON
NOT THAT I THINK THIS IS A
AND TO DO THAT IS
WE NEED A BROADBAND FIXED TO
THE DRESS IS FRESH YOU WERE
CUT OFF YOU WERE CUT OFF
YOUR LAST RECOMMENDATION
COULD YOU RESTATE IT PLEASE
OKAY SO I THAT WAS I TALKING
ABOUT THE NICE TO HAVE A THE
MUSTANG AFTER IT WAS YOUR
FINAL STATEMENT -- WELL I AM
THE PUNCH LINE -- I WOULD URGE
THAT IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH LEGISLATION THAT
YOU DO SO IN A WAY THAT DOES
NOT UNDERMINE BEDROCK STATE
AND FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL
LAWS OR OVERRIDE THE AGENCY
JURISDICTION OR CONSTRUCTION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE WILL
YOU MIGHT GET A STEP FROM THE
COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT THAT IS
SO -- WHAT WILL GO LASTLY TO
-- OUR FINAL SPEAKER LAST
ON THE LIST FIRST IN OUR HEARTS
MARK STONE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE UTILITY REFORM NETWORK
THE SELF DESTRUCTION WELL YOU
KNOW I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
I REQUEST SO MANY SENATORS
MEMBERS COMMITTEE HI MARK
TONY IF THEY'RE BUSY RECTOR
OF TURN UTILITY REFORM NETWORK
KERN IS VERY CONCERNED THAT
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL TO
EXTEND THE DEBT THE APPLICATION
IN OPERATION IS A TERRIBLE
DEAL THAT IS GOING TO IN RICH
SHAREHOLDERS AT THE EXPENSE
OF RATE PAYERS AND TAXPAYERS
WILL MAKE THE AFFORDABILITY
CRISIS EVEN WORSE BY INCREASING
MONTHLY BILLS WE'RE REALLY
CONCERNED THAT HE IS --
PROPOSAL WOULD PROTECT
PG&E SHAREHOLDERS EVEN IF
PG&E MISS MANAGES THE PLAN
FOR ENGAGES IN GROSS NEGLIGENCE
-- CORRECTIVE THAN EXAMPLE
OF TWENTY TWENTY AND TWENTY
TWENTY ONE THE APPLICATION FOR
ALMOST ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY
EIGHTH OF AVERAGES FOR THE
OPERATIONAL PROBLEM UNIQUE TO
RESULTING IN REPLACEMENT COST
OF POWER COST OF A HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY NINE MILLION DOLLARS
UNDER CURRENTLY MAKING HE
PG&E MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
THESE CALLS IF THEY'RE FOUND
TO HAVE BEEN NEGLIGENT BUT
UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
RATEPAYERS WOULD BE LIABLE FOR
FUTURE OUTAGE BECAUSE COST
EVEN IF THE OUTAGES CAUSED BY
P. JEANNIE MISMANAGEMENT OR
NEGLIGENCE BGMEA GOT A VERY
GOOD RECORD ON THAT STUFF
WELL THE CONSENT OF THE BILL
FOR FANS EX PARTE RULES
FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF CPUC
PROCEEDINGS I MEAN THIS
LITERALLY ENCOURAGES BACKROOM
DEALS BETWEEN PG&E
AND THE COMMISSION THEY'RE
IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE WOULD
BE NO OBLIGATION FOR REPORT
NO EQUAL TIME FROM GROUPS LIKE
KERN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RATE
CASE WITH ABSOLUTELY WRONG
IN SEVERAL PLACES THE BILL
PRETENDS THAT GIVING PG&E
SHAREHOLDERS DIRECT PAYMENTS
IT IS DIFFERENT FROM INCREASING
THE COMPANY'S PROFITABILITY
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
IS HUGE WINDFALL PROFITS
MY POSITION IS THAT PICKED
QUACKS LIKE A PROFIT IS A
PROFIT I I'D
LIKE TO SHARE MY
SCREEN REAL QUICKLY TO
OKAY THIS IS A CHART THAT
SHOWS YOU THAT FROM TWENTY
SEVENTEEN TO TWENTY TWENTY ONE
-- PG&E SHAREHOLDERS
ARE EARNING A HUNDRED AND
SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS PER
YEAR FROM THE OPERATION OF THE
APPLICATION IN TWENTY TWENTY
THREE TO TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
THANKS BOTH TO GO DOWN TO ABOUT
A HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION
BUT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO
HUNDRED AND FOUR MILLION DOLLARS
PER YEAR FOR SHAREHOLDERS WELL
WHEN YOU GO TO TWENTY TWENTY SIX
TO TWENTY THIRTY THAT
NUMBER BALLOONS TO FOUR HUNDRED
AND SIXTY EIGHT MILLION A YEAR
WE THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS
MAILLET SECOND LAST SLIDE
IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA
WITH THAT WHEN WE ADD THIS MONEY
UP HOW MUCH IS IT AND
UNDER CURRENT RETIREMENTS
IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
-- THEY SHOULD HOLD THE PROFITS
WOULD BE A TOTAL OF THREE
HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION
APPROXIMATELY OKAY AND THEN
THEY WOULD STOP WHICH IS WHY
TWENTY THIRTY THEY'RE THE
SAME UNDER THE THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL BY TWENTY TWENTY
FIVE THE SHAREHOLDERS WOULD
HAVE COLLECTED A TOTAL OF NINE
HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO MILLION
AND BY TWENTY THIRTY DAY WILL
LOOK COLLECTED AN EXTRA THREE
POINT THREE BILLION DOLLARS
AND THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS
SO LET ME JUST DO IT
A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS HERE
-- SO
THE LEGISLATURE BELIEVE THAT
THE APPLE CAN AND SHOULD
CONTINUE TO OPERATE IT SHOULD
PRIORITIZE RATE HERE BENEFITS
RATHER THAN ENRICHING PG&E
SHAREHOLDERS RIGHT BECAUSE
I'VE ALREADY COVERED THE COST
OF THIS PLAN INCLUDING MANY
BILLION DOLLARS OF SHAREHOLDER
PROFITS TO BEGIN OPERATION
IN THE LATE NINETEEN EIGHTIES
THE PROPOSAL AS A NIGHTMARE
FOR REPAIR IS A NIGHTMARE
FOR TAXPAYERS AND IT'S A DREAM
COME TRUE FOR PG&E SHAREHOLDERS
KERN DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE
ASPECTS OF THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE
WE RECEIVED IT AT TEN OO EIGHT
LAST NIGHT OKAY BUT WE DON'T
BELIEVE ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS
ALL OF THE CONSEQUENCES
PRINCIPLES I'M GONNA AND WITH
PRINCIPLES FOR EXTENDING THE
APPLICATION IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO
SO THAT IS FAIR TO RATE PAYERS
TAX AS WELL TO SHAREHOLDERS ONE
MINUTE AFFORDABILITY EQUALLY
AS IMPORTANT AS RELIABILITY TO
CAP FUTURE ANNUAL SHAREHOLDER
OF PROFITS FROM DIABLO CANYON
AT A HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION
WHICH IS WHERE IT CURRENTLY
IS ELIMINATE THE GET OUT OF
JAIL FREE CARD FOR PG&E AND
HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR
MISMANAGEMENT AND NEGLIGENCE
FOUR PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF
CPUC REASONABLE REASONABLE
THIS REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE
COST OF OPERATING THE PLANT
AND RETAIN EX PARTE RULES FOR
TRANSPARENCY FILE ELIMINATE
PROTECTIONS FOR REPLACEMENT
OUR CLASS OF THAT SHAREHOLDERS
ARE PROTECTED FROM OF THE PLANT
GOES DOWN SIX PROTECT
RATE PAYERS BERMAN DIVISIONAL
MARKLEEVILLE DUE TO KEEPING THE
APPLICATION OPEN SEVEN ALLOCATE
ANY SURPLUS FUNDS FROM SELLING
POWER TO OFFSET AND REDUCE
REPAIR COSTS TAKE THE TIME
NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSALS AND COME UP WITH
REMEDIES TO ENSURE THAT THE RATE
OF PUBLIC BENEFIT FINANCIALLY
AND AS A BACKUP RESTORE AND
NINE THE FOR ACTION ON THE
APPLICATION UNTIL THE ACTUAL
SECTION IN THE FALL -- UNTIL
JANUARY WHEN EVERYBODY HAS HAD
THE TIME TO DO A MORE THOROUGH
ANALYSIS QUESTIONS THANK YOU
-- I WILL GET A MEMBER OF
QUESTIONS NOW BUT THE PROBLEM
IS I WAS GOING TO DO FOR MY
TILL THE END BUT WHILE I HAVE
YOU HERE ON THE SCREEN I JUST
WANT TO ASK HOW YOU CAN HOW DID
YOU COME UP WITH THOSE FIGURES
ON THE PROFITS I MEAN WHAT THAT
ARE WELL INTO THE FUTURE I WAS
WONDERING HOW I CALCULATE THAT
AND HOW DID YOU COME WITH UP
WITH THOSE NUMBERS MISTER TONY
SIX QUESTIONS THANK
YOU VERY MUCH I THOUGHT
SO -- CURRENTLY
KINI EARNS ABOUT A HUNDRED FIFTY
MILLION DOLLARS APPROXIMATELY
PER YEAR FROM -- DABBLING
CANYON BECAUSE I'M UNDER THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL FIJI'S
COP FROM THE APPLICATION FEE
WOULD RISE TO TWO HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION A YEAR
STARTING IN TWENTY TWENTY THREE
IT WOULD RISE TO THREE HUNDRED
AND NINETY MILLION IN TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE AND IT WOULD RISE
TO FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS STARTING IN
TWENTY TWENTY SIX SO WE JUST
KIND OF ADDED THOSE TOGETHER FOR
-- -- WHAT WITHIN THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL OKAY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH SO WE'LL GO TO MEMBERS
STARTING WAS CENTER LAYER
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR CARE AND
I APPRECIATE BEING ADDED TO THE
COMMITTEE TODAY GIVEN THE
FACT THAT -- DEMO CANYONS
IN MY DISTRICT AND I HAVE WORKED
-- INTENSELY ON THIS ISSUE AND
I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THAT
THERE WAS A PUBLIC WORKSHOP
BY THE ENERGY COMMISSION THERE
WAS HELD ON AUGUST TWELFTH AT
ALMOST SEVEN HUNDRED PEOPLE
ATTENDED -- OF THE ASSUME
AND I MADE A STATEMENT
AND I WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS
BASED ON THAT AT THAT HEARING
GOOD OUTLINED I THINK ALL THE
ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE OUTSTANDING
AND WANT TO GO TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WILL TAKE SOME OF
THE CHEAP PHONES THERE SOME
SPECIFIC TO SAN LUIS OBISPO
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I ASK
AND WHILE THERE HAVE BEEN MANY
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY AND ONLY THE SECOND
MAJOR ONE WORKS IN PUBLIC SO
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET
PEOPLE ON THE RECORD AND
LET ME JUST ASK A COUPLE OF
GLOBAL ISSUES OF -- MISS MODEL
SCIENTISTS AT THE BEGINNING AND
IT WAS JUST RAISED IN IN THE
LAST -- WHY IS THIS NECESSARY
TO BE DONE AT THIS TIME WITH
THIS LEVEL OF REPEATEDLY
THANK YOU CENTER A COUPLE OF
REASONS WHY IT'S NECESSARY
TO DO IT RIGHT NOW FIRST
IS -- RENO RIGHT NOW THE
-- PG&E IS UNDER ORDER TO
DECOMMISSION THE PLANT --
NORMALLY PERMITTING PROCESS
SEES TAKE MANY MANY YEARS
-- IF WE'RE THERE IS GOING TO
BE AN EXTENSION OF THE PLANTS
-- THE EFFORT TO OBTAIN PERMITS
AND TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND THOSE
PERMITS -- NEEDS TO GET UNDER
WAY AND -- IT WILL TAKE IT IF
IT'S NECESSARY TO SECURE THE
FEDERAL PERMITS BEFORE MOVING
TO THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY
COMMISSION PROCESS THE MOST
IMMEDIATE URGENT DEADLINE IS
THIS DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER
SIX AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THE
FEDERAL DOLLARS TO BE ABLE
TO HELP MAKE THIS TRANSITION
POSSIBLE AND DO IT IN A WAY
THAT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO
REPAIRS IN ORDER INTO TAXPAYERS
IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT
THAT APPLICATION THAT NEEDS
TO BE A PATH TO BE ABLE TO
CONTINUE OPERATIONS TO MEET
THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
FOR THE NOW A MODIFIED FEDERAL
PROGRAM AND SO THE DEADLINE
IS FAST APPROACHING IN ORDER
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT -- P.
JEANNIE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE
MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY
FOR THE PROGRAM SO THAT HAS
TO BE A PATH THERE HAS TO BE
PASSED TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS
WE HAVE TO BE A PATH TO BE
ABLE TO PURCHASE OF THE POWER
AND IT HAS TO BE A MECHANISM
THAT WOULD GENERATE THE KIND OF
STRUCTURE THE FEDERAL DOLLARS
WILL BE AVAILABLE WE DO HAVE
THE OPTION OF THE LEGISLATURE
OF JUST DOING WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY
NECESSARY AT THIS POINT AND MAY
BE HAVING SOME OF THE MAJOR
PIECES OF THIS DECISION MADE IN
JANUARY IS THAT RIGHT YES
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
AN OPPORTUNITY TO ESTABLISH
-- BOTH EITHER THROUGH A YOU
KNOW COME BACK TILL IS IT TOO
LITTLE WOMAN'S AS WELL AS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE IN OF
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE CONDITIONS
THAT WOULD BE TO PREVENT
EXTENSION OTHER ELEMENTS IN
LEGISLATION SO YOU CAN BOTH --
ESTABLISHED AT IN THE CONDITIONS
AND ABSOLUTELY TAKE THE ACTION
THAT IS MINIMALLY NECESSARY TO
BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE FEDERAL
FUNDING AND TO BE ABLE TO GET
GOING UNDER WAY SELECTS TENSION
IS A POSSIBILITY AND WILL ASK
I'M SURE THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FEDERAL
FUNDING BUT WE WOULD KNOW
BY JANUARY WHETHER WE HAD
RECEIVED A FEDERAL FUNDING IS
THAT CORRECT WE BELIEVE THAT
BY JANUARY WE WILL KNOW WHETHER
THE PLANTS WILL QUALIFY --
EXACTLY ONE -- SO SO THE
DETERMINATION AROUND ELIGIBILITY
WE BELIEVE WILL BE DONE BY
JANUARY OKAY SIR SO WE CAN ACT
ACCORDINGLY -- AND LET ME GO
THROUGH SOME OF THE SPECIFIC
ISSUES AND AND WHILE I THINK
MOST OF THE QUESTIONS WILL
END UP IN YOUR VALLEY WORK
LET ME START WITH HUNTER STERN
WHO TESTIFIED FROM HIGH IN B.
W. AND HE WRECKED REPRESENTS
THE HUNDREDS OF WORKERS
AT THE DIABLO CANYON PLANT
AND THIS HAS BEEN SCHEDULED TO
CLOSE IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AND
-- ANECDOTALLY I KNOW A NUMBER
OF PEOPLE RETIRED ANOTHER
PEOPLE SET THEIR RETIREMENT AND
POWER WE ASSURED THAT WILL
HAVE THE ADEQUATE TO WORKERS
AND TRAINED IN UP TO SPEED
GIVEN THE FOR ACTED IF THIS
WERE TO BE EXTENDED -- IT
WOULD REQUIRE TO TRAINED WORK
FORCE TO COME IN BEHIND THOSE
RETIREMENTS AND AND BEFORE
THANK YOU AGAIN OF THANKS
FOR THE QUESTION CUSTARD
DRESSER BUT HEAR ME WAS
PERSONS FIRST THE THE RETENTION
AGREEMENT SIGNED BETWEEN --
TWELVE FORTY FIVE AND AND AND
DESERVE A GAS ELECTRIC COMPANY
-- IS SURE IS THAT PEOPLE
WILL BE TRAINED AND QUALIFIED
WORKERS WILL BE WORKING AT THE
PLANT UNTIL DECOMMISSIONING
UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES
AND ACTUALLY THERE'S A
DECOMMISSIONING ELEMENT
TO THAT AS WELL THOSE
SOME OF THOSE WORKERS WILL
CONTINUE WORKING AT THE
PLANT AFTER THE UNITS CLOSE
DOORS OR STOP OPERATING
SO I THINK THE FIRST
PIECE OF THE FIRST ANSWER IS
PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WAS TO
ENSURE THAT THAT ARE QUALIFIED
WORKERS TO THE VERY LAST DAY
THAT UNIT TWO IS OFFERED IN
AUGUST OF TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS
IS HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT THE
ROLE ARE GIVEN RETIREMENTS AND
OTHER PEOPLE SORT OF HAVING
MADE DECISIONS BASED ON WHEN
THE PLANT WAS SCHEDULED TO CLOSE
RUBIO THE RETIREMENT WELL
OBVIOUSLY IN EACH INDIVIDUAL --
MEMBER GETS TO CHOOSE -- BUT
THERE ARE THERE THERE WERE
AMOS MADE AND HAVE BEEN MADE
AND WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE
MADE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO COMMIT
TO STAY TO THE END SO THERE'S
COMPENSATION ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT -- AND THEN BEYOND THAT
THERE'S ALSO YEAH I THINK IT
WAS MENTIONED EARLIER MINIMUM
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AND WE KNOW
FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP TO
THERE ARE MEMBERS NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WORKING IN DEVIL RIGHT
NOW ARE WELL ABOVE THE MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY
THE ARE DESTROYED BY THE NRC
-- SO WILL THAT
PAYMENT TO GET PEOPLE TO STAY
TO THE END OF PAYMENT THAT
THEN GOES TO TWENTY THIRTY
FOR WORKS TENDED BY FIVE YEARS
I THINK DAY NO NOT YET NOT
UNDER THE CURRENT MODEL --
I I AM QUITE SURE
THAT WE WILL EXAMINE WITH P.
JEANNIE AND AND THEN WITH THE
THE P. YOU SEE -- WILL EXAMINE
THE -- ALL OPPORTUNITIES ARE ALL
ELEMENTS TO SEE IF THAT'S NEEDED
WITH IF WE IF IT'S A STRUCTURE
TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CONTINUE
TO WORK I MEAN PART OF PART OF
LOOKING AT ANY KIND OF -- --
CHANGING WORK FORCE FOR CHANGE
IN STAFFING LEVEL REQUIRES A
PRETTY THOROUGH DEMOGRAPHIC
REVIEW I MEAN CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE
ELIGIBLE FOR ENHANCED RETIREMENT
BENEFITS AND CERTAIN OTHERS
ARE NOT AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK
AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS I JUST
DON'T KNOW IT LET ME JUST SAY I
APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE TO YOUR
QUESTION I THINK THAT'S JUST
CONCERNED WE WANT TO A CHECK
BECAUSE IT GOES FOR US LET ME
ASK MINIMUM MISMOS ON TOAST
ON THE SAFETY ISSUE BOB BOTH
SAFETY AND SEISMIC ARE THINGS
THAT -- I MEAN SAFETY
RELATED TO SEISMIC THERE'S ALSO
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND IN EACH
CASE WE'VE BEEN GOING TOWARD A
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE CLOSURE AND
PEOPLE MORE PLANNING FOR THINGS
THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED TO BE DONE
HOW IN LEGISLATION OR THROUGH AN
EXTENSION DO WE MAKE SURE THAT
THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND
THE SAFETY AND THE SIZE MAKES
IT DOWN A FIGHT AND THEN HOW
DO WE MAKE SURE THE COSTS ARE
COVERED IF THERE'S WORK THAT'S
NECESSARY OUT OF THOSE SUBJECTS
THANK YOU SIR FOR THE QUESTION
-- THE REGULATORY AGENCIES WILL
BE LOOKING AT THESE QUESTIONS
VERY CAREFULLY AND THIS IS
GOING TO BE ONE OF THE KEY AREAS
OF FOCUS AN INQUIRY FOR THE
NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
AND ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE
THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR YOUR
RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALSO ENSURE
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
-- BOTH WITH -- COMMITTEE AS
WELL AS WITH INDEPENDENT PEER
REVIEW TAKE A SEPARATE LOOK
AT THESE QUESTIONS -- AND
AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT MOVING
FORWARD WITH THE EXTENSION
-- THAT THERE IS A THERE IS A
STATE LEVEL REVIEW AND --
AND INFLUENCED -- AND INFORMED
BY AN EXPERT PANEL -- AND PEER
REVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT
NECESSARY ACTIONS -- ON THE
MAINTENANCE SIDE ARE HARD DONE
AS WELL AS THE SAME ON SEISMIC
AND IN TERMS OF HOW THESE COSTS
ARE COVERED AND THE IMPORTANT
ISSUES THAT YOU'RE RAISING IN
RELATIONSHIP TO IN RELATIONSHIP
TO THE WORK FORCE YOU KNOW
THAT THEIR -- THERE HAS BEEN
DISCUSSION AROUND -- AROUND THE
MANAGEMENT FEE AND THE STRUCTURE
THAT IS BEING PROPOSED PART OF
THE RATIONALE FOR THAT STRUCTURE
AND PART OF THE PERFORMANCE
ELEMENTS -- THAT ARE INCLUDED
IN THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU ARE
DESIGNED TO RECOGNIZE THAT PART
OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO
HERE IS TURN AROUND FROM --
AN OPERATOR TO HAS BEEN FOCUSING
ON THE COMMISSION TO OPERATOR
THAT FOCUSES ON EXTENSION AN
EXTENSION THAT IS SAFE ALSO
OPERATOR THE DOES THAT CONSIST
OF THE STATE INTEREST TO HAVE
THAT EXTENSION BE A SHORT AS
POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S
A TRANSITION THAT HAPPENS --
THAT THE THAT WE COULDN'T MOVE
FORWARD THE COMMISSIONING AS
QUICKLY AS WE CAN DO SO RELIABLY
THERE'S NECESSARY DOLLARS TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK FORCE
INVESTMENTS ARE THERE SO THAT WE
HAVE THE TALENTED STAFF OF THAT
HAS BEEN OPERATING -- THIS PLANT
SAFELY CONTINUE TO REMAIN WITH
US AND WE HAVE THE WORKFORCE
THEIR RESOURCES YOU KNOW
THERE THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME
DOLLARS ARE INCLUDED IN THE
-- IN THE ESTIMATES BUT THEY
ALSO MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT
-- THAT ARE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS
YOUR SUSTENANCE AND THAT'S KIND
OF WHAT THE STRUCTURE TRIES TO
MAKE SURE THIS COMPENSATION WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING I JUST I THINK
OF THE LEGISLATURE REALLY WANT
TO KNOW WHO'S ON THE HOOK AND
AT WHAT POINT IN THE SEQUENCE
ON THE SPENT NUCLEAR STORAGE
OF THE LEGISLATURE APPROPRIATED
MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL CASH IS
IT ANTICIPATED THAT THERE'S
MORE SPACE NEEDED TO FORCE
THE EXISTING SPACE AT THE
POINT GOING TO BE OUT OF CORN
THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE
EXISTING SPACE IS ADEQUATE TO BE
ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE -- -- --
EXTENSION OF AND IF THEIR WAR --
ADDITIONAL SPACE REQUIRED WOULD
YOU AGREE THAT THAT THAT PROCESS
WOULD BE SUBJECT TO COASTAL
PERMIT ONE THOUSAND PERCENT OKAY
AND THEN -- ON THE ONCE THROUGH
COOLING OF THE PERMIT FOR THAT
EXPIRES IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
UNDER THIS THERE WOULD HAVE TO
BE AN EXTENSION OF FIVE YEARS
AND IT'S MONDAY TANNING YOU
WANNA ASK P. GINNY FOR HIGHER
MITIGATION FEE THAN THAT IS
THERE NOW IS THAT CORRECT THAT'S
CORRECT AND -- AND THE THE
OTHER THING IS IS RIGHT NOW FOR
ALL THE ONCE THROUGH COOLING
PLANTS NOT JUST P. JEANNIE OF
THE MONEY GOES TO THE STATE'S
OCEAN PROGRAMS AND IF THERE'S
MONEY LEFT TO COASTAL LAND
CONSERVATION ALONG THE COAST ONE
OF THE ISSUES HERE IS TO TWELVE
THOUSAND ACRES OF DIABLO LANDS
-- IT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE BETTER
FOR REALIZING EXTRA MITIGATION
FEES AND THEY WOULD NORMALLY
GO TO LAND CONSERVATION IN
THE COSTA BE LOGICAL TO GUIDE
THEM TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THESE
TWELVE THOUSAND ACRES OF LAND
TO SET SOMETHING YOU'D BE
OPEN TO THE ASSEMBLY WOULD
BE OPEN TO MAKE SENSES ABOUT
-- HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
MITIGATION IS BENEFITING THE
IMPACT AND THEN ON THE TWELVE
THOUSAND ACRES OF LANDS ONE
OF THE SUGGESTIONS TO US IS
THIS WOULD SOMEHOW GO TO THE
P. UC TO CONSIDER AND YET
-- PERHAPS THE LANCER PGNIG
AND HALF THE LANDS ARE LEASED
TO SOMEBODY ELSE FOR NINETY
NINE YEARS IT WOULD JUST BE THE
LANDS THAT PG&E HAS CONTROL OVER
THAT WOULD GO TO THE PUC'S SET
CORRECT CORRECT IT'S AN INTEREST
IN LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL
RIGOR AND TIME ONCE AN EXISTING
PROCESS TO PROVIDE FOR THE
EXPEDITIOUS DOT DISPOSITION OF
THE LAMP AND I THINK EVERYBODY
WILL WANT TO ASK ABOUT WHO
PAYS THE FINANCING THING BUT
LET ME JUST CLARIFY TWO THINGS
BECAUSE THIS IS A ONE POINT FOUR
BILLION DOLLAR LOAN THAT YOU
MIGHT SEE CALL AUTHORIZATION
FOR BUT IF IT'S EXPECTED
TO BE REPAID FROM FEDERAL
FUNDS WOULD YOU BE SCORING
A MATCHING ONE POINT FOUR
BILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE YES
OKAY AND WHAT DO YOU ARE
ON THE LONG SIDE OF THE HOUSE
AGREED THAT PG&E SHAREHOLDERS
SHOULD NOT BENEFIT IN ANY WAY
FROM FROM WHAT PASSES THROUGH AN
EXCELLENT AND THEN I UNDERSTAND
THAT THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE
AND I JUST ASK YOU TO WORK
THAT PGNIG SOMEWHERE IN HERE
CHARGES AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE
AND THAT MIGHT BE A WAY THAT
THEY RECOVER MONEY WHERE WE'RE
TRYING TO PUT GARGOYLES AND
IN OTHER PLACES AND I HOPE
YOU WOULD DROP DOWN ON THAT
TO TO DEAL WITH THAT AND
ALSO THERE WAS A COLUMN
IN THE SAN LUIS OBISPO PAPER
ABOUT FOR THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE
MANAGEMENT THE LAST TWO DAYS TO
AVOID OUT A NUMBER OF CONCERNS
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE
CONSIDERED ON THE ISSUE THAT
-- WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT
THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED S. B.
TEN NINETY THAT DID TRANSITION
MONEY FOR THE LOCALS AND OVER
EIGHTY MILLION IS GONE OUT TO
THE LOCALS IT'S YOUR EXPECTATION
AND THIS THAT THAT MONEY WOULD
NOT HAVE TO BE REPAID TO SET
CORRECT YES AND IF THERE'S AN
EXTENSION -- THAT AT SOME
POINT SINCE THE TRANSITION THAN
WOULD BE FARTHER OUT A NUMBER
OF YEARS WE'VE IS IT POSSIBLE
TO RE POPULATE THAT FUND TO DEAL
WITH TRANSITION COSTS WOULD IT
REALLY TRANSITIONS BECAUSE OF
THE DELAY WE THINK THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION HEALTH
OKAY AND THEN ON THE FIXED DATE
-- THE WAY THAT COULD BE
ADDRESSED AS THE LEGISLATURE
COULD JUST CHOOSE TO AUTHORIZE
FOR FIVE YEARS IS THAT
CORRECT CORRECT OKAY BECAUSE I
WOULD SUPPORT THAT IS A
CLEAR THING FOR PLANNING AND
THEN I KNOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO
GO INTO IT LACKS BUT LET'S TRY
DID TO THE OFFSHORE WIND
IN THIS AREA IS SCHEDULED TO
GO ONLINE AND TWENTY TWENTY
NINE OR TWENTY THIRTY AND WITH
THAT -- IT'S HOPE TO USE A
LOT OF THE TRANSMISSION THAT
IS HERE TO HELP LOWER CANYON
IS THERE A WAY TO GUARANTEE
THAT ANY EXTENSION OF DOWNLOAD
CANYON DOESN'T GET IN THE
WAY OF THE OFFSHORE WIND WHEN
IT COMES ON THE LINE THERE
IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY TO BE
ABLE TO MAINTAIN BOTH DIABLO
CANYON TRANSMISSION AS WELL
AS A COMEDY THE TRANSMISSION
THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE ONLINE
WITHIN THIS TIME PERIOD SO
BOTH CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AT
THE SAME TIME AND THEN AND
I'M JUST GONNA QUIT BECAUSE
MR WORKS IS GONNA MAKE ME
QUIT SENTIMENTS FOR QUIT
ON MY OWN ACCORD -- THE
ONE THING HERE IS THAT
-- WHETHER DIABLO CANYON IS
EXTENDED SPORTS NOT EXTENDED
FROM ONE OF THE REASONS FOR
THIS IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
RENEWABLES COMING ONLINE AND
SO IT SEEMS THAT WE SHOULD
HAVE NO REGRETS POLICY WHAT
I'VE TERMED THE MARSHALL PLAN
SHOULD START TO KICK START OUR
RENEWABLES ARE YOU READY TO
COMMIT TO THE FIRST STAGE OF
THAT AS PART OF THIS SO THAT WE
KNOW THAT WE ARE ARE MOVING INTO
THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO COMMIT
TO BUILD ON THE FIRST STAGE
THE YOU TOOK IN THE BUDGET TO
CONTINUE TO ACCELERATE THAT SO
WE THINK WITH THAT YOU'VE TAKEN
SOME IMPORTANT ACTION ON THE
FRONT AND WE ARE INTERESTED IN
CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD THOSE
NO REGRETS CRITICAL ACTIONS
FOR A FUTURE OKAY AND IF NOBODY
ASKS ABOUT THE PERMITTING THAT
WAS RAISED IN THE THING ALL
COME BACK TO THAT THE END BUT
THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME AND
GOING FIRST I WANT TO GET ALL
THESE ISSUES RAISED AN ON THE
RECORD THANK YOU MUCH --
THANK YOU NOT A PROBLEM WILL GO
TO US UNDER BACKER FOLLOWED
BY CENTER MINNESOTA -- DOLLY
THANK YOU THERE'S A
NUMBER OF ISSUES RAISED BY ALL
THE SPEAKERS SO DESTRUCTIVE
THINK WORK ORDER TO ASK
THE SERVER BUILDS ASK A FEW
AND THEN MY COLLEAGUES CO
AND AND AND COME BACK --
I GUESS A POINT THAT
EARLIER RAISED YOU KNOW SOME
PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THE
JUNGLE CANYONS BASE A PARA
COULD GET IN THE WAY OF
RENEWABLES WHAT WOULD BE YOUR --
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE TO
THAT WE GENERALLY WE THINK
THAT DIABLO CANYON WOULD
COMPLEMENT IN THE RISK THE
TRANSITION AND MAKE IT MAKE
IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO CONTINUE
MOVING FORWARD ON BUILDING OUT
OR ADDITIONAL RENEWABLES -- AND
-- AND DOING IT IN A WAY THAT
MAINTAINS RELIABILITY -- THERE
IS A POSSIBILITY THAT DIABLO
CANYON WOULD BE A CLEAN RESOURCE
THAT WOULD OFFSET THE EXTENT
TO WHICH WE ARE USING GAS AS A
AS IS -- CARE DOES PRESENTATION
SPOKE TO AND SO WE THINK THE
THERE THIS WOULD BOTH IT WOULD
ACTUALLY DE RISK AND HELP US BE
ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY ON
OUR CONTINUING PROSELYTIZATION
THANK YOU IT IS CONSIDERING
HER HEARING HERE IN THIS ROOM
ON CLEAN RELIABILITY PER SUB
COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE THIS YEAR
OKAY SO WHO SHOULD SIMILAR I
GUESS FOR YOUR PROJECTION AMEEN
DURING WHAT PERCENT OF OUT
OF YOU KNOW RUFFINO AT A HIGH
LEVEL OF THE HOURS OF THE YEAR
AND SAY TWENTY TWENTY SIX WOULD
YOU EXPECT THE STATE TO HAVE
ENOUGH RENEWABLES RIGHT NOW
THAT WE WON'T BE RUNNING ANY
GAS PLANTS EVEN EVEN I
GUESS EVEN WITH DIABLO
FROM READY TO CONFIRM WITH MY
WITH MY COLLEAGUES BUT I THINK
WE WE ARE PROJECTING TO CONTINUE
TO HAVE GAS PLANTS -- FOR THE
FORESEEABLE FUTURE LOOKING AT
THE AMOUNT OF GENERATION EVEN
-- POST THE POINT OF THE DIABLO
TRANSITION BUT CARE AND IF -- IF
IT'S POSSIBLE TO ON MUTE YOU MAY
BE ABLE TO GIVE US A SPECIFIC
BUT WE WE ARE SEEING GATED
GIVEN THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF
ENERGY THAT WE ARE -- THAT
WE ARE RELYING ON FROM A
GAS RESOURCES PARTICULARLY
DURING AFTER A SOLAR COMES
OFF LINE WE ARE SEEING THAT
BE PART OF THE TRANSITION
POSTED TWENTY THIRTY PERIOD
KAREN IS ANY SPECIFIC
COMMENTS ON THAT BUT YEAH
FROM DATA WE'VE SEEN A IT DOES
LOOK LIKE THE DIRECT RESULT OF
SHUTTING DOWN GENERAL CANYON
WILL BE THAT WE RELY ON NATURAL
GAS PLANTS MORE EVERY DAY
-- AND FOR MORE YEARS THAN IF WE
KEEP A DIABLO OPEN CONSULATES
VIA -- THAT'S
IF YOU COULD THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE THE
ATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN ON THIS
-- I GUESS
I WOULD SAY TO MISTER
TWENTY FROM TURN IF YOU
LISTEN BUT EIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS
ARE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WE
HAVE IN WRITING OR SOMETHING
THAT COULD BE PROVIDED TO
THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK OUT
FOR THE STRUCTURING OF THIS
THE THE I SEE THE
THE COURT RECORDS HERE TO THE
POINT YOU'RE DESERVE THE RECORD
RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE AS WELL
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ARE NOT
IN HERE AS SENATOR BACK HER
BACK -- I CAN SEND THEM TO THE
THE CONSULTANT FOR DISTRIBUTION
OKAY THAT WOULD BE
YEAH
THREE ASSESSMENT
I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU HEARD ME BEFORE -- SENATE
SENATOR BACKER -- THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS WERE NOT IN WHAT
WAS DISTRIBUTED BUT I CAN SEND
THEM OVER TO USING COMMITTEE
CONSULT OKAY FEBRUARY HELPFUL
GETS ONE LAST QUESTION HERE
-- RESPONSE NOT JUST TO
IT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE
CONCERNED ABOUT SECURITY
CAMERAS FOR WINDOWS IT
IS A LEGITIMATE ONE --
A. N. BUT WE DO HAVE A
LOT OF TIME TO FIX IT
SO IF YOU KNOW IF WE'RE
TRYING TO AVOID THAT KIND
OF COMPETITION WE NEED MORE
NORTH SOUTH TRANSMISSION
CAPACITY ANYWAY -- WHAT
DO YOU SEE THE LIKELIHOOD
OF THAT FOR EXAMPLE BUILDING
NEW TRANSMISSION FROM DIABLO
TWO L. A. C. USING UNDERSEA
CABLES IT WOULD WORK ON OUR
CURRENT NORTH SOUTH CAPACITY
PROBLEMS DALY AND
HEALTH FOR THIS ISSUE AS
WELL WITH YOUR THOUGHTS ON
THAT THE FIRST VISIT CITIES WE
LOOKED AT THIS QUESTION REALLY
REALLY CLOSELY AND THERE IS
ROOM TO BE ABLE TO WITH THE
EXISTING TRANSITION PROVIDE
OUR TRANSMISSION CAPACITY
TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE --
AND CONNECTED TO THE SYSTEM
ANOTHER THREE GIGAWATTS OF
-- OF OFFSHORE WIND TECHNOLOGY
WITH DIABLO OPERATING SO ARE
THERE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS
AND NECESSARY ACTIONS TO BE
ABLE TO GET TO SOME OF THE
PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR
YOU KNOW SAY FIFTEEN YEARS OUT
FOR -- FOR OFFSHORE WIND YES
IN THE THAT WORK IS -- IS GOING
TO BE UNDER WAY AN IMPORTANT
FUNDING INCLUDING TO THAT AND
TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS ALL THOSE
ELEMENTS IN THE BUDGET BUT WE'VE
LOOKED AT IT VERY CLOSELY AND
THERE IS SUFFICIENT ROOM EVEN
OF THE EXTENSION WAS INTO THE
EARLY TWENTY -- TWENTY THIRTIES
TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE
AMOUNT OF OFFSHORE WIND THAT
IS EXPECTED -- IN THE FORECAST
PERIOD AND CONTINUED OPERATIONS
FROM THE ALICANTE EXCELLENT
ARE YOU ALSO WILLING TO LOOK
AT SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL
YOURSELF ABSOLUTELY NOT
CITY AS WELL ABSOLUTELY OKAY
-- TICKET STARTS AT ONE ONE
MORE QUESTION AND A COMMENT WILL
TURN OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES THE
THE SAFETY QUESTIONS RC
INTERCEDED ROLE ON THIS POST
FUKUSHIMA -- WITH THAT THE
CONTINUE TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART
OF THE RELICENSED PROCESS YES
TO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE TO
THE NEXT STAGES YES IT WOULD BE
REVIEWED BUT BOTH BY THE NUCLEAR
REGULATORY COMMISSION IS PART
OF THE CONSIDERATION OF ARMY ANY
PERMIT EXTENSION AND UNDER THE
PROPOSAL THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING
AT THESE QUESTIONS HERE OKAY
EXCELLENT WELL THANK YOU OUT
FOR PRESENTATIONAL TURN OVER I
JUST I DO BELIEVE WE KNEW DEAN
ALL OF THE ABOVE STRATEGY AND
EVEN IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THE
ABA WE WILL STILL NEED OF
THIS ADDITIONAL RENEWABLES AND
CONVERSELY WE HAVE ALL THESE
ADDITIONAL THINGS I THINK
THAT WE NEED TO DO INCLUDING A
DEMAND RESPONSE RIGHT ISSUE AND
I'VE DISCUSSED -- LOOKS LIKE
WE WILL NEED TO HAVE LOW AS
WELL SO THANK YOU PRESENTATION
TODAY THANK YOU AND TO YOUR
IMPORTANT POINT -- THESE
RESOURCES WILL ALSO REDUCE THE
EXTENT TO WHICH WE ARE RELYING
ON GAS RESOURCES AND OTHER
ELEMENTS THAT ARE -- THAT HAVE
A HIGHER AMOUNT OF GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS YEAH IT DOES LOOK
LIKE A DIRECT TRADE OFF TO ME
SERMON THANK YOU CHAIR QUESTION
THANK YOU TO THE -- PANELISTS
I APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY
AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TAKE
QUESTIONS -- HELLO MISTER
WITH THE MISS MADISON TOES --
AND A PRIVATE PRIMARILY TALK
TO YOU SO I TAKE YOU ON YOUR
WORD AND YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD
NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS -- WHERE
YOU'VE OUTLINED THE PROJECTED
SHORTFALLS ARE ME FACING
OUR ENERGY SUPPLY I AND
D. E. R. AGAIN THEY'LL TAKE YOU
ON YOUR WHERE YOU'RE THE EXPERTS
-- THAT THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED
THE APPLE TO ME ARE EXPECTED
SHORTFALLS IN THE NEAR FUTURE
-- AND I GUESS YOU KNOW TO
JUST TO NOT TO PUT TOO FINE
A POINT ON IT -- I A CONTRA
THE CLAIMS OF PEOPLE LIKE DONALD
TRUMP WE WE KNOW THAT THE THE
SHORTFALLS ARE NOT DUE TO US
PUTTING RENEWABLES ONLINE IT'S
-- DUE TO THE ACCELERATING
EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH
ARE CAUSING SPIKES IN DEMAND
-- BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT
WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THESE SPIKES
THE THE ACCELERATING EFFECTS
OF CLIMATE CHANGE FOR AT LEAST
A FEW YEARS NOW -- IN INSIDE
I JUST CONTINUALLY RAISE THE
QUESTION OF WHY IT WHY ARE
WE CONTINUING TO FACE THESE
PROBLEMS WHY WE CONTINUE TO FACE
FOR FALLS AND THE ANSWER GOTTEN
FROM YOU AND I JUST WANTED TO
RESTATE THIS FOR THE RECORD
IS THAT POWER TRANSMISSION AND
STORAGE ARE THE REAL BOTTLENECKS
HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND
IT'S NOT THAT THESE ONLINE I'M
SO MY COLLEAGUES ARE COLLEAGUES
IN THE ASSEMBLY HAVE PROPOSED
THE AMBITIOUS PLAN TO TRY TO
BRING MORE RENEWABLES ONLINE
-- AND TO INCREASE -- POWER
TRANSMISSION STORAGE AND I WOULD
ECHO THE POINT OF MY COLLEAGUE
FROM SAN MATTEO BERMAN THE
PARK I'D RUN -- OR SO
YES SOMEWHERE IN THE BAY AREA
-- YOU KNOW I THINK WE DO NEED
ALL OF THE ABOVE A PER APPROACH
HERE AND I'M I'M WONDERING YOU
KNOW IF YOU'RE WILLING TO COMMIT
TODAY OR WHEN WE ARE ACTUALLY
ASKED TO VOTE ON THIS ON THE
FLOOR -- TO PAIRING THIS DIABLO
CANYON BUT WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENTS AND APPROACHES YOU
KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
RIGHT ANSWER IS IF IT'S -- THE
ASSEMBLY'S APPROACH IF IT'S
SOMETHING ELSE -- BUT IF THE
BOTTLENECK IS TRANSMISSION AND
STORAGE I GUESS MY QUESTION IS
WHY ARE WE NOT DOING MORE WITH
THIS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE
BOTTLENECKS OR NOT FACING THE
SAME PROBLEM IN A FEW YEARS --
AND SO I GUESS THAT'S REALLY
MY FIRST QUESTIONS IS WHAT DO
YOU WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING
HERE AS FAR AS -- INVESTMENT
AND AND PROPOSALS I MEAN THE
THE IN MY SOLVE MIGHT ALSO
BE FAST TRACKING SOME OF THE
THINGS WERE BEING ASKED TO DO
BUT I JUST WANT TO OPEN THAT
UP TO YOU THANK YOU CENTER
SALUTE THE FIRST PIECE I'D SAY
IS THAT ALL THE PROJECTIONS
ASSUME THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL
LAWMAKER WANTS FOR STORAGE
AND MANY MORE RESOURCES COMING
ONLINE -- WILL AGREE THAT
THAT THE THE TARGETS FOR
PROCUREMENTS -- AT THE END OF
THE LAST DECADE WERE LOWER THAN
WHAT WE NEED NOW THERE'S NOW
ORDERING FOR FOURTEEN THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED ADDITIONAL MAY
WANT TO COME ONLINE -- THE
QUICK QUESTION IS TIMING AND
HOW QUICKLY WILL THOSE BE
ONLINE -- HOW QUICKLY WILL IT
BE INTERCONNECTED IN TERMS OF
ACTIONS TO ACCELERATE -- IN ALL
OF THE ABOVE STRATEGY COMPLETELY
AGREE WITH A WITH A WHAT DO
YOU OUTLINED ON THE PERSPECTIVE
AND WE ARE COUNTING ON THOSE
THOUSANDS OF MEGAWATTS COMING
ONLINE AND COMING ONLINE QUICKLY
AND HAVE TAKEN ACTION TO EXCEL
IN THOSE PROJECTS THE ACTIONS
THAT YOU TOOK IN -- IN IN JUNE
TO BOTH ACCELERATE PROJECTS AS
WELL X. S. AND SIX CELEBRATE
MANUFACTURING OF BATTERIES AND
OTHER ELEMENTS WILL BE VERY
HELPFUL THE THE CHALLENGES HOW
QUICKLY WILL THAT COME ONLINE
AND WE THINK IT WILL BE MORE
LATER IN THE DECADE THEN IN THE
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE PERIOD
-- IN THE IMMEDIATE CHALLENGE
THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE
L. CANYON IN TERMS OF OPENNESS
TO LOOK AT DOING MORE OPENNESS
TO DOING MORE AND -- PROVIDED
THAT THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED
WITHIN THE BUDGET PARAMETERS
THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOU
ON IN JUNE SO WE THINK THERE IS
ROOM TO DO MORE ON THE DEMAND
RESPONSE CITED TO DO MORE ON
ON ON ADDITIONAL ACTIONS TO
CONTINUE TO ACCELERATE THE
TRANSITION -- BLOODY YOU'VE
ALREADY TAKEN IMPORTANT ACTIONS
IN THE QUESTION AND WE ACTUALLY
ARE COUNTING ON THOSE RESOURCES
COMING ONLINE TO BE ABLE TO
MEET SOME OF THE -- NEED HAVE
A JUST A FEW MORE UP FOLLOW
UPS -- THANK YOU FOR THAT IN
CERTAIN CASES I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY
YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE OPEN
TO SAY SOME OF THE ELEMENTS
OR PROPOSALS FROM THE ASSEMBLY
PACKAGE -- PROVIDED THAT THEY
WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET FRAMEWORK
AFTER THAT QUICKLY FOR ONE
OF THE WORKERS IN THE BUDGET
FRAMEWORK AND ARE CONSISTENT
WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
DO AND I WE JUST EMPHASIZE
SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN -- THEY
CONTINUE TO STRESS DURING MY
BRIEF TIME HERE IN THE SENATE
I WHICH IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
AND ALL THE ABOVE APPROACH I
DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
CONTINUE TO INVEST MEANINGFULLY
IN INNOVATION RESEARCH
DEVELOPMENT AND AND PUTTING
PRIVATE CAPITAL TO BEAR AND
SOLVING SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO
GET TO OUR CLIMATE TARGETS
PARTICULAR THE ONES OUTLINED
IN THE GOVERNOR'S CLIMATE
PACKAGE UNLESS WE ACTUALLY
INNOVATE VERY AGGRESSIVELY
-- I JUST ANOTHER QUESTION
HERE -- I HEARD A COMMENT
FOR MR KAVANAGH AT IN OUR DC
THAT THAT ACTUALLY -- MADE
ME VERY CONCERNED AND AND HIS
CLAIM WAS THAT -- THAT
D. E. THE FEDERAL FUNDS WOULD
NOT APPLY TO -- DIABLO
CANYON AND BECAUSE I THINK HE
SAID THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR
THE MATCHING FUNDS THERE'S
EXPOSURE TO COMPETITIVE MARKETS
THAT ARE SUFFERING OPERATING
LOSSES SOMETHING THAT THE
APPLE IS NOT IN THE POSITION
HAVING A CAN YOU COMMENT ON
THAT NEBRASKA WE HAVE A A
RESPONSE FROM THE FROM MISTER --
KEVIN WAS WELL ABSOLUTELY TO
GO AHEAD WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY AND THEY'VE REVISED
OUR GUIDANCE -- IN AND AND
THEY'VE REVISED THEIR PROGRAM
OTHER APPLICATION IN A WAY THAT
WE BELIEVE THAT DOUBLE CANYON --
AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THEM
TO BE ABLE CANYON WOULD QUALIFY
AND -- AND WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IN
THE STRUCTURE OF FUNDING THAT
IS BEFORE YOU IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE PROGRAM OUTLINED IN
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT -- DIABLO
CANYON PARTICIPATES IN THE
COMBINED IN A COMPETITIVE
MARKET THE CALLER SO MARKET IS A
COMPETITIVE MARKET -- AND THE
STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED
WOULD HAVE -- THE THIS MECHANISM
WOULD BE CREATED IN A WAY THAT
IS NOT RECOVERABLE FROM OTHER
LOCATIONS IT WOULD QUALIFY AS
A LOSS FOR PURPOSES OF THAT
PROGRAM SO WE HAVE HAD EXTENSIVE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY -- IN THE BEGINNING
OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WAS NOT
QUITE SURE WHERE THINGS WERE
GOING TO GO AT THIS JUNCTURE
WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE
THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IS
INFORMED BY THOSE DISCUSSIONS
INFORMED BY THE PROGRAM RULES
AND THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE
ABLE CANYON WOULD QUALIFY
FOR THE P. SIDE NOTE IS THAT
THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH YOU
CAN ALSO BE INCORPORATED
VARIETY OF -- OF THE YOU CAN
ADD SOME ADDITIONAL BELTS AND
SUSPENDERS TO ENSURE THAT THE
STATE EXPOSURE IS CONSISTENT
WITH THIS EXPECTATION OF THE
PROGRAM THAT THE FUNDS WOULD
BE -- THE TO THE PHOTO THAT THE
PLANT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE
FEDERAL PROGRAM -- THIS KEVIN
SENATOR WE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE
AND THIS IS THE STATE MINIMUM
AND IMPORTANT UNCERTAINTY
THAT CHERYL YOU'D LIKE TO GET
RESOLVED BEFORE YOU GO ALL IN
FOR AN EXTENSION THE REASON
WE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE IS
BECAUSE THE STATUTE CREATING
THOSE SUBSIDIES SINCE THEY'RE
ONLY AVAILABLE TO NUCLEAR PLANTS
EXPOSED TO COMPETITIVE MARKETS
AND THEY CAN ONLY BE USED TO
OFFSET DOCUMENTED OPERATING
LOSSES YES DOUBLE CANYON SELLS
ITS OUTPUT INTO INTO A WHOLESALE
MARKET ALL OF ITS LOSSES IN
THAT MARKET ARE AUTOMATICALLY
COVERED BY CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS
ACTUALLY THE SYSTEM HAS WORKED
FOR YEARS THERE ARE NO OPERATING
LOSSES NINE CAN BE DOCUMENTED AS
A CONSEQUENCE WE DON'T BELIEVE
IT YET BUT CANYON WILL QUALIFY
FOR SUBSIDIES AND I SAY THIS
IS SOMEONE'S NORMALLY DELIGHTED
TO HAVE CALIFORNIA GET ALL THE
FEDERAL MONEY WE CAN'T BUT WE
THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS
UNLAWFUL AND AGAIN LET'S GET
THAT RESULT LET'S LET THE GET
A RULING TO THE DEPARTMENT
ENERGY IF YOU WANT TO IF THE
CONCERN IS THE SEPTEMBER SIXTH
AT LINE DIRECTED YOU NEED TO
FILE TO DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY
GET THE ANSWER BEFORE YOU MAKE
THIS MASSIVE COMMITMENT --
I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT MISS
KEVIN ON I I GUESS I WOULD
ASSUME IS A CERTAIN THE SUN
IS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S
BAD ADVICE ON WHETHER TO DO WE
OPINION OR AT LEAST A LITIGATION
OPINION FROM FROM A REPUTABLE
LAW FIRM I THINK IT'S PROBABLY
A GOOD IDEA TO GET IF THIS
IS A MATTER OF STATUTORY
INTERPRETATION -- AS YOU KNOW
THE FACT THAT IN A MEMBER OF
THE DEPARTMENT MIGHT TELL US
SOMETHING IT MIGHT NOT BE --
WHAT DRIVES -- JUDGE TO RULE
ONE OR THE OTHER STATES WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME CERTAINLY
HAD A TIME FOR REFLECTION LAST
POINT I WANT TO MAKE IN IT
ALONG THE SAME LINES A RISK
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT
A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT THAT
AS I UNDERSTAND IT LIES ON THE
SEISMIC FAULT AND I WONDER IF
ANYONE HAS MODELED THE RISK
OF A SEAFOOD CRISTINA TYPE
EVENT AS WELL AS THE RISK OF
OF HAVING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL
SPENT FUEL THAT IS EXPOSED TO
RISING SEA LEVELS AND AND OTHER
POTENTIAL HARM HOW DOES THAT
RISK MATCH AS FAR AS A COST
BENEFIT TO THE RISK OF BLACKOUTS
THAT WE'RE FACING I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT RISK ASSESSMENT AND
IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE DONE
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT
THE ADMINISTRATION COULD DO
JEAN IT'S PROBABLY IN THE BEST
POSITION TO TALK ABOUT THE
SEISMIC WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE
TO DATE -- THESE ARE THE TYPES
OF INCREASE THAT -- THAT THE
NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
WOULD BE LOOKING OUT THE THE --
THE THE PC WOULD ALSO BE HAVING
-- EXPERT PANELS -- BE ABLE TO
WEIGH IN ON BEFORE ANY EXTENSION
COOLEY THE FUNDAMENTAL OF ANY
EXTENSION AND ANY EXTENSION
APARTMENTS WOULD BE THAT THE
PLANT OPERATE SAFELY THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN
DONE PEONIES FOR BETTER POSITION
TO SPEAK TO THAT BUT THIS IS
PART OF THE INQUIRY IN PART OF
THE EXAMINATION THAT WOULD BE
-- THAT WOULD REQUIRED WOULD
WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT
-- BEFORE THE N. R. C. RENTS
APARTMENT IN BEFORE -- AND THEN
THE PC WOULD CONSIDER UNDER THE
TERMS OF THE STATURE I WOULD P.
GINNY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT
A YES LORENA
CAN YOU HEAR ME OK YES
OKAY YES THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION -- ENTERTAINMENT AS I
MENTIONED -- THE NRC DIRECTED
ALL PLANTS UNDERGO A SEISMIC
REEVALUATION FOLLOWING THE HOST
TO CUSHION MY EVENT IN JAPAN
IN TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN SO ALL
OF THOSE ANALYSES HAD BEEN
COMPLETED -- WE LOOK AT
THE SEISMIC THREATEN RISK
EVALUATION THERE AND AGAIN IT
WAS ALSO -- BETTER THROUGH THE
SENIOR SEISMIC HAZARD ANALYSIS
COMMITTEE THE WALL THAT HAS
BEEN COMPLETED AND THE FINAL
-- EFFORT ON THAT WAS ON ITS
SIDE MAKE PROBABLY COULD RISK
ASSESSMENT AND INTERCEDED THEIR
FINAL APPROVAL BY MATT AND
DOCUMENTED A LETTER IN JANUARY
TWENTY NINETEEN THAT'S PUBLICLY
AVAILABLE THERE'S THAT AND
THEN YOU ALSO ASKED ABOUT --
ELEVATION OR DEPRESSION I MEAN
SO FORTH AND WHAT DIFFERENT
THAN SPENDING OVER THAT MIGHT
BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE
YOU'RE LOCATED THANK PEOPLE
-- TWO STORY THREE HUNDRED AND
TEN FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL
SO WE HAVE ALL BEEN MODELED
AND THERE'S -- NO TSUNAMIS
THAT WOULD REACH THAT LEVEL
THANK YOU FOR IT WILL GO TO
CENTERMAN SADDAM SORRY CENTER
DOLLY THE OTHER SENTIMENT
THE OTHER SETTLEMENT THANK YOU
-- MISTER CHAIR GOOD TO SEE YOU
THANKS FOR JOINING OUR CAUCUS
YESTERDAY SO I WANTED I COULD
KIND OF JUST A COUPLE OFF THE
TOP QUESTIONS SO HOW MUCH IS
AVAILABLE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ENDS AT GENERAL FUND
MONEY OR IS THAT MONEY THAT HAS
BEEN COLLECTED FROM RATEPAYERS
ACROSS THE NATION WHO HAD
NUCLEAR PLANTS A TOTAL
OF SIX BILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE
FOR TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES
OF PROGRAMS -- THE PROGRAM THAT
WOULD BE APPLYING TO -- IS
THE FIRST TRUNCHEON HAS A CALL
TO THE TO THE FULL AMOUNT OF
DOLLARS AND THAT IS -- TAXPAYER
RESOURCES PROVIDED UNDER A
-- A PRIOR -- FEDERAL PROGRAM
CREATOR EARLIER THIS YEAR OKAY
THANK YOU SO BASICALLY IT'S
STILL TAXPAYER WE'RE ALL FEDERAL
TAXPAYERS SO IT'S FEDERAL
TAXPAYER MONEY EVEN THOUGH THE
BURDEN IS GOING TO BE LESSENED
ON CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WERE
TAKEN TAXES FROM PEOPLE THAT
PAID ACROSS THE NATION THANK
YOU FOR THAT -- THEN THE NEXT
QUESTION I HAD ON A FIFTY RATE
AND AND SO I HAVE I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION I
HAVE HERE -- THAT THERE'S GOING
TO BE AN ESTIMATED OF THREE OR
SIXTY MILLION A YEAR BASED ON
HISTORIC GENERATION LEVELS FIFTY
PERCENT -- FEE WILL BE COLLECTED
BY A NON PASSABLE CHARGE ON
ALL CUSTOMERS IN CALIFORNIA
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES AND
SERVICE TERRY'S PG&E S. C.
E. S. T. GENIE EN INCLUDES
ALL CCAC AND DIRECT ACCESS
CUSTOMERS IS THAT CORRECT THIS
RESOURCE WOULD PROVIDE STATEWIDE
RELIABILITY AND CONSISTENT
WITH THE NEED AT ITS MEETING TO
PROVIDE STATEWIDE RELIABILITY
THE STRUCTURE FOR COMPENSATION
AND FOR PAYING FOR THE POWER ON
A GOING FORWARD BASIS WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE BENEFIT SO
THAT WOULD BE IS FOR ALL CPUC
JURISDICTIONAL ENTITIES THAT
WOULD BE IT WOULD BE ACCURATE TO
SAY THAT ALL
OF CALIFORNIANS ARE PAYING FOR
THIS THIS PG&E ASSET
BUT MOST OF CALIFORNIANS
WOULD BE BENEFITING FROM THE
RELIABILITY PROVIDED BY THIS
ACID AND WOOD CONSISTENTLY
WITH THE BENEFIT THAT
IS A CRUDE WOULD BE HELP
WITH HELPING TO FUND THAT
BENEFITS SO I WILL
-- I'M JUST GOING TO
DO NOW TOUCH ON MAYBE --
A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT YOU
KNOW ABOUT A SUBMUNITION AS
WELL MUNICIPAL UTILITIES AS WELL
ALL CALLERS TO JURISDICTIONAL
ENTITIES SHOULD BE MORE -- --
WIENER PG&E --
-- EDISON SAN DIEGO GAS
ELECTRIC CCA'S IT'S ALL THE
FOLKS THAT ARE WITHIN THE UC
JURISDICTIONAL TERRITORY OKAY
THANK YOU SO I WANTED JUST TO
MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS ON MR
KAVANAGH'S PRESENTATION I GOT
TO SEE THAT I MISSED THE -- THE
STUFF FROM TURN I WAS HAVING
TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE BUT
YES THERE WAS A BILL WHATEVER
IT WAS AB TEN NINETY THINK
SENATOR LAYERED COMMON I DON'T
REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT IT
WAS A BILL THAT ACTUALLY -- I
WHICH I VOTED FOR WAS A BILL
TO HELP THE WORKERS AND THE
COMMUNITIES AFTER THE FACT THIS
LEGISLATURE DID MAKE AN ACTION
TO CLOSE DOWN OR DIRECT THE
JOB OKAY NEED TO BE CLOSED
SIX YEARS AGO AND YOU KNOW
IF WE UP WE WERE NOW WE'RE
IN A CRISIS MODE WE SEEM TO
ALWAYS BE A CRISIS MODE BUT
THE ACTUAL ACTION WAS TAKEN
BY THIS LEGISLATURE TO TO
MOVE US IN A GREEN WAY SOME
OF US ACTUALLY SAID YOU KNOW
ACTUALLY NUCLEAR'S CLEAN
WHEN WE SHUT DOWN THE GAS
PLANTS FIRST AND RE PERMIT
THIS AND THEN MOVE FORWARD BUT
THAT WASN'T THAT THE ACTION
OF THE LEGISLATURE SO HERE WE
ARE NOW YOU KNOW A FEW YEARS
LATER AND WE'RE A CRISIS MODE
AND WE'RE SPUR PUT INTO A BOX
WHERE YOU AS A LEGISLATOR WHO --
IS VERY FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW THE
FACT THAT I'VE BEEN PUT IN A BOX
BECAUSE OF POOR DECISIONS THAT
WERE MADE BY THE LEGISLATURE AND
NOT MY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONTINUE
TO GET TAPPED TO PAY THE BILL
AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS
THIS IS THE POINT I WANT TO I
WANT TO BRING HOME JERRY SPERRY
CLEAR IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
REPAIRS ALL REPAIRS CALIFORNIA
PAY FOR THIS DECISION WAS MADE
BY THIS LEGISLATURE TO MOVE
ECONOMY TO PLACE TO WHERE
THEY'RE MOVING TO TAKE AN ASSET
OFFLINE ALL THE WHILE TELLING
THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE OTHER
GREEN ASSETS AVAILABLE THAT
AREN'T AVAILABLE SO HERE WE ARE
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATES IN
THE NATION SEVENTY SIX PERCENT
MORE ONE COST CALIFORNIA'S PAY
MORE ALREADY TODAY THAN AVERAGE
IN THE NATION AND HERE WE ARE
GOING TO UP THEIR RATES NOT
JUST BG CUSTOMERS WHICH IT HAS
BEEN IN THE PAST BECAUSE HE
GINNY'S HAD OTHER ISSUES BUT
NOW ACROSS THE NATION ACROSS THE
CALIFORNIA SO I'M JUST REALLY
FRUSTRATED I JUST CAME FROM FROM
EQ WERE SETTING ANOTHER TARGET
WHERE TO SET A TARGET THAT WE
COULDN'T EVEN MEET THIS ORIGINAL
TARGET SO I JUST WANNA GO ON
RECORD TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW
WE NEED A LOT MORE OF HOW MUCH
GREEN'S GONNA COME ONLINE AND
WHEN IT'S GOING TO COME ONLINE
AND THERE'S ALSO A FULL LIST OF
THINGS THAT WE HEARD WHEN WE
WERE LISTENING TO THE ORIGINAL
LEGISLATION ABOUT STATE LANDS
THERE STATE LANDS ISSUES WITH
WITH THE COOLING THE EXTENSION
OF MITIGATION FEES IMPOSED UNDER
THE ONCE THROUGH COOLING PROCESS
I MEAN I AM ALL HIGHLIGHTED HERE
THERE'S SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THESE
ISSUES THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE
THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH
I GUESS THE LEGISLATURE GONNA
MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS ARE
STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL
BOARD OR COASTAL COMMISSION
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES
IN THIS PROCESS AND A LOT OF
UNCERTAINTIES AND I REALLY WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE MORE DEFINITION I
THINK THAT SENATOR MAN BROUGHT
UP A GREAT POINT ABOUT ARE WE
REALLY A BILL GET THOSE FUNDS
WHAT IS THE ACTION THE STATE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD
TO TAKE WHAT IS THAT BECAUSE
THE COMMISSION THOSE ARE ALL
ISSUES THAT I THINK WE NEED TO
HAVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE
BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS IN
THIS LEGISLATURE OF THE LAST
TEN YEARS IT HASN'T COME TRUE
AND HERE WE ARE CRISIS MANAGING
AND SO I WOULD A PERSONAL
APPRECIATE YOU'RE ALWAYS BEING
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND AND I
APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE
YOU KNOW PRESENTING BUT AT THE
END OF THE DAY I THINK WE NEED
A LOT OF INFORMATION A SHORT
TIME WE HAVE A FEW DAYS BEFORE
OUT OF SESSION AND WE ARE UNDER
CRISIS MANAGEMENT AND I'M VERY
CONCERNED THAT THE RATE
PAYERS ARE GOING TO BE PAYING A
LOT MORE AND I I TRIED TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT THE AMOUNT WOULD BE
PER KILOWATT HOUR THERE WAS A
FORMULA INTO SOME OF MY NOTES
I THINK I SHARED WITH SENATOR
STERN WOMAN ON THE FLOOR I WAS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IT'S THE
FIXED FIXED FEE CHARGED TO ALL
CPUC JURISDICTIONAL RATEPAYERS
THERE'S A FIFTY DOLLARS PER
UNIT AND THEN A HUNDRED DOLLARS
PER UNIT FOR BOTH UNITS WHAT
DOES THAT EQUATE TO WHAT IS
IS A COULDN'T QUITE TO THE
ACTUAL KILOWATT HOUR TO A TO A
CALIFORNIA RATE PAYERS WHAT I
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY CAN
GIVE ME THAT INFORMATION THIRTY
FIVE DOLLARS FOR KINDLE IT DOES
TO THE WHAT IS THE ESTIMATE
WHICH IS A LOWER COST THAN
MOST OF THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES
AND IT IS OUR BEST LOWEST COST
OPTION TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN
RELIABILITY CENTER I'D SAY EIGHT
OUT HERE YOU CLIMATE CHANGE
IS IMPACTING AND COMING OUT OF
SOME OF THE FACTS ARE HAPPENING
FASTER THAN WE FORECASTED AND
THAT'S WHAT THESE THESE ARE THE
TYPES OF ACTIONS THAT WE THINK
ARE NECESSARY BOTH TO MITIGATE
CLIMATE CHANGE AND PROTECT
THE PUBLIC HEALTH AS WELL AS
TO MAINTAIN RELIABILITY AS WE
CONTINUE TO MOVE TOWARDS HER
TRANSITION BUT THE ESTIMATE IS
SEVENTY FIVE PER MEGAWATT
HOUR OR SEVENTY FIVE SEVEN
POINT FIVE KILOWATTS WHAT IT
WAS SEVEN FIVE WHAT I BELIEVE
TO MAKE SURE DOUBLE CHECKING
FOR IRAQ I CATCH THE NUMBER
BECAUSE RIGHT HERE IN THE REPORT
YES IT IS AND IT IS COMPARED
TO -- IF WE LOOK AT FOR EXAMPLE
WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR
COMBINED GAS IT WOULD SERVE A
MUCH LOWER COST ALTERNATIVES
IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF WHAT WE
THINK GEOTHERMAL WOULD COST IF
YOU THERMAL WAS AVAILABLE BUT
THERE'S NOT BEEN SUFFICIENT
AVAILABLE GEOTHERMAL IN THE
TIMES OF THIS IS NEEDED SO
YES IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN
THE SOLAR SOLAR IS NOT AVAILABLE
TO MEET THAT NEED AT THAT
PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME AND
WE THINK THAT THIS IS A LOWER
COST ALTERNATIVE AND IT'S
ALTERNATIVE THAT WE THINK IS
THE BEST WE CAN COUNT ON US
WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO OTHER
LIKE ALTERNATIVES IT'S A LOT
LESS EXPENSIVE THAN SAY COMBINED
GAS WHICH IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE
OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT ONE
WOULD LOOK AT -- IN TERMS OF
IMPORTING FROM FROM OTHER STATES
IN OTHER AREAS SO WE THINK
IT'S A LOWER COST ALTERNATIVE
IN SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS
THAT WOULD BE THAT TIME OF DAY
OKAY -- MOBIL ONE THANK YOU
-- I WANTED TO ASK WHY
IT WAS NECESSARY NUMBER ONE
-- I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ACTUAL
LEGISLATION YET BUT THAT WAS
MENTIONED BY MISTER TONY THAT
EJECTS SUSPENDED EX PARTE
RULES FROM THE P. YOU SEE
NUMBER AND NUMBER TWO THAT IT
RELEASED P. GINNY OF LIABILITIES
-- WITHOUT A TWO
SEPARATE COMPLETELY SEPARATE
BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU
COULD IF YOU HEARD HIM SPEAK
TO THE LIABILITY ISSUE FEW
COULD NOT RESPOND TO THAT AND
TO THE EX PARTE WHY THAT WHY
THAT'S NECESSARY HAPPY TO AND
IT WAS IT'S FOR PER MEGAWATT
HOUR IS THE SEVENTY FIVE SO --
IN TERMS OF THE EX PARTY THERE
IS AN INITIAL DETERMINATION
THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED IN THE
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SAY
THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTING THE
CPUC TO SUPERSEDE ITS PRIOR
ORDER TO NOT TO BASICALLY MOVE
FORWARD TO SHUT DOWN AND NOT BE
ABLE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN
THE COMMISSIONING SO THE ONLY
ELEMENT WHERE THERE IS A WAIVER
OF EX PARTY AND IT'S IT'S IT'S
FOR WHAT IT'S A MINISTERIAL
ACTION THAT IS THAT WOULD BE
DIRECTED IN THE LEGISLATION
WHICH IS TO PURSUE EXTENSION FOR
ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS IN TERMS
OF -- THE TERMINATION OF RATES
AND FOR ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS
THAT WOULD BE THE STANDARD --
STANDARD OVERALL OVERSIGHT AND
PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC PROCESS
IT'S ONLY FOR THAT INITIAL
ACTION OF THE EXPORT TO WOULD
BE MODIFIED IN TERMS OF THE
-- OF THE SOME OF THE OTHER
ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED --
PG&E WOULD FACE EXPOSURE --
AND -- AND COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE ARE
OUTAGES IN THE COST OF PROCURING
REPLACEMENT ENERGY EXCEEDS THE
AMOUNTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN
THE LEGISLATION SO THERE'S A
THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A LOT
OF -- REPAIR AND SHAREHOLDER
RISK THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN
THE OVERALL COMPENSATION THERE
ARE SOME DIFFERENT ELEMENTS
IN THIS PROPOSED COMPENSATION
STRUCTURE THAT ARE IN THAT
RECOGNIZE THE THE WHAT IS
BEING WHAT IS BEING SOUGHT
AND THE -- THE SPEED AT WHICH
THERE IS A NEED FOR PG&E TO
MOVE FROM DECOMMISSIONING TO
EXTENSION THE CIVIC CENTER AT
CETERA I'D HIGHLY JUST OUTLINED
THE LEAK THE LEGISLATION
WOULD BE CLEAR -- ALL DOLLARS
GET USED FOR OPERATING THE
PLANT EIGHT DOLLARS BEYOND
THOSE THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR
PURPOSES OF OPERATING THE
PLANTS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO
THINGS LIKE WILDFIRE RELIABILITY
INTERCONNECTION IS SPEEDING
UP ELEMENTS THE TRANSITION
EIGHT ADDITIONAL DOLLARS
WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO SEE
CHANGE CHANGE THE FORECAST
AROUND EARNINGS AND BE ABLE
TO YIELD ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS
FOR SHAREHOLDERS SO THERE ARE
PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO FIRST
CREATE THE TYPES OF CONDITIONS
THAT MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS
EXTENSION AND HAVE APPROPRIATE
COMPENSATION REGARDING THAT
AND THEN PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE
THAT ANY DOLLARS YOU KNOW TO
THE EXTENT THAT THOSE RESTORE
MATERIALIZE WITH THOSE COSTS
ARE NOT USED FOR SAY THINGS
LIKE WORK FOR STABILITY THAT
THOSE DOLLARS GO TO OTHER PUBLIC
PURPOSES THAT ARE BENEFICIAL
TO RATEPAYERS SUCH AS PLAYING
FOR -- THE HARDENING OF --
OF TRANSMISSION LINES WERE
SPEEDING UP INTERCONNECTIONS
ARE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT OUR
PUBLIC BENEFITS AND OR OTHERWISE
REPAIR FUNDED YOU KNOW
I I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH SOME
-- FOR DOWN SAN DIEGO AND SO
I DON'T KNOW FOR A STARTED
-- CONSTRUCTION AROUND NINETEEN
SIXTY FOUR WHEN A COOPERATION
NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT WERE AS
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THE DEVIL
CAN USE A STARTED FOUR YEARS
LATER TO START CONSTRUCTION
NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT BUT IT
DIDN'T ACTUALLY OPEN UNTIL
-- NINETEEN EIGHTY FIVE FOR ONE
UNIT NINETEEN EIGHTY SIX AND I
REMEMBER THE WHOLE DEBATE BACK
THEN WHEN PEOPLE WERE GETTING
ARRESTED THERE WERE PROTESTS
AND AND I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF
OTHER THINGS RELATED TO DIABLO
CANYON THE SENATE OFFERED AND GO
TO ESPECIALLY THE DELAYS RELATED
TO -- SEISMIC RETROFITS
THAT REALLY SENT TO COSTS BEYOND
THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS AND SO
I KNOW A LOT OF THAT WORK WAS
DONE INITIALLY TO COVER THE
SEISMIC WORK WHEN WHEN THE THE
PLANT WAS BUILT AND IT WAS
LATER -- REDESIGNED TO ACCOUNT
FOR THE RETROFITS BUT
IT IS SO WHERE SANDY WAS STARTED
IN NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT UP
DOUBLE A KENYAN WAS ALMOST
A YOU KNOW FIFTEEN YEARS LATER
OR FOR MORE ACTUALLY ALMOST
TWENTY YEARS LATER -- SO
ONE ACTUALLY HAD A MUCH OLDER
REACTORS I WAS ON THE COASTAL
COMMISSION WHEN WE ANALYZED
FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE
REACTOR PERCENT OR NO FOR A AND
WHEN THE REACTOR WAS REPLACED
IN THE WHOLE -- PROBLEM
WITH -- REPLACING THE REACTOR
WOULD IT COST VENTRALLY THE
REPAIRS HOW TO PAY FOR THAT
REACTOR THE DIDN'T OPERATE
AND THE AGE EDUCATION OF IT
DIDN'T REALLY THOSE THOSE
FUNDS THEN COME BACK TO RATE
PAYERS -- OR AT LEAST NOT
ENTIRELY WHICH I THINK SHOULD
HAPPEN BUT HE DIDN'T THERE
WAS -- A LOT OF DEBATE
BACK THEN ABOUT WHO'S GOING
TO PAY FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS
REPAIRS PAID FROM WHO'S
GONNA GET COMPENSATED DO
WE KNOW ABOUT THIS REACTOR
DOESN'T HAVE -- A SHELF
LIFE IS IT IS IT NEARING
ITS ITS OPERATIONAL
LIFE -- THE END LIFE
-- THE END OF ITS OPERATIONAL
LIFE SORRY ABOUT THAT AND IS
THAT REACTOR HEALTHY IS GOING
TO BE NEED TO BE REPLACED AND
IF IT IS IS SHOULD THAT SIGNAL
FOR US THE END OF THE OPERATION
I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH
THE TROUBLE OF RIGHT PLACE IN
THE TRACTOR DO WE KNOW ABOUT --
THE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS
-- UNIT AND OUR
THESE YOU BOTH UNITS AND AND
WHAT WE NEED TO INVEST TO KEEP
THEM OPERATIONS THROUGH THE
PERIOD THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING
HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE
A CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT IN
THIS ACTION THAT COULD --
NOT ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE COSTS
SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT
THAT WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE
DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT
WE THINK IS REQUIRED IN WATER
REASONABLE COSTS ARE EXPECTED
WE ALSO HAVE US HAVE LOOKED
IT DIDN'T TALK TO REGULATORY
AGENCIES AROUND WHAT TYPES OF
THINGS I THINK WOULD COME IN
THE PROCESS BUT I THINK -- P.
JEANNIE WITH US -- PROBABLY
BEST POSITION TO TO GIVE YOU
MORE IN DEPTH INTO TERMS OF --
WHERE THE REACTOR IS -- THIS
THIS IS A SHORTER TIME THAN
OTHERS THAT ARE OPERATING AND
I THINK -- THEY'RE PROBABLY THE
BEST POSITION TO GIVE YOU BETTER
INFORMATION ON THIS QUESTION
BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW I
MEAN IT'S ALSO SIMILAR AGE TO
SAN DIEGO ALTHOUGH IT STARTED
OPERATING MUCH LATE LATER
AND ARE WE NEARING THAT THAT
THE SHELF LIFE OF THE PROJECT
IS --
YES THREE
HUNDRED AND THE QUESTION --
CORRECTLY -- CHAIRMAN MYSELF
THE -- THE REACTOR VESSEL
THAN IN THE REACTOR OF FIFTY
COULD BE PART OF THE LICENSE
RENEWAL APPLICATION IN THE
EVALUATIONS THAT WOULD BE DOING
-- INCLUDING IMPACT OUR AGING
MANAGEMENT PROCESS AND SO THINGS
AND ALL THAT THAT GOES INTO
LICENSE RENEWAL APPLICATION
-- THE INTERCEDING PREVIOUS
THE EQUATION HAS CONFIRMED ON
THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS
THAT WE NEED ON NOT ONLY THE
FORTY BUT SIXTY YEARS SCREENING
CRITERIA FOR A REACTOR VESSELS
SO THE REACTOR IS SCHEDULED
TO BE REPLACED ANYTIME SOON
ANY OF THEM UNIT ONE OR TWO
THAT IS CORRECT PRIVATIONS
TODAY TELL THEM THAT'S NOT
NECESSARY AGAIN WE WOULD
EVALUATE EVERYTHING AS PART OF
THE LICENSE RENEWAL APPLICATION
AND THAT PROCESS AND THE ENERGY
WOULD LET US KNOW IF ANY OTHER
CHANGES WERE NEEDED AT WHAT
POINT WILL YOU KNOW I MEAN IS IT
IS OUR YEAR TO YEAR ASSESSMENT
OR CAN YOU FORECAST OUT SEVERAL
YEARS IN ADVANCE BASED ON
THE HEALTH OF THE REACTOR
ARE WE WOULD BASICALLY DO
INSPECTIONS AS PART OF LICENSE
RENEWAL APPLICATION PROCESS
AND THOSE WOULD TAKE A FEW YEARS
AND AND BASED ON THE METHODOLOGY
THAT WOULD BE USED AND THE DATA
THAT WE COLLECT AND ANALYZE
THAT'LL DETERMINE YOU KNOW
THAT THE LENGTH OF THE REACTOR
VESSEL SAFETY AND SO FORTH
SO IT WOULD IT WOULD TAKE US
THROUGH IF WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR
LICENSE RENEWAL FOR TEN YEAR
LICENSE RENEWAL IT WOULD TAKE
US THROUGH THE WHOLE DURATION
FOR THE NRC APPROVED -- AN
ALTERNATE LICENSE ON EXTENSION
FOR THE APPLE AND SO YOU WOULD
GO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT
PROCESS AT THE NEXT PERIOD WOULD
BE FOR -- TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
TO GET A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION
NO WE WOULD IT IF LEGISLATION
IS APPROVED TO CONTINUE TO
OPERATE DIABLO CANYON'S AS I
MENTIONED IN MY IN MY REMARKS
WE WOULD BE STARTING THOSE
EVALUATIONS ARE YOU KNOW
IN SEPTEMBER TO INFORM THE
LICENSE RENEWAL APPLICATION
THAT WE WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT
TO THE NRC IN FIRST OR
SECOND QUARTER NEXT YEAR
OKAY AND --
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OF BEING IN
THE COURAGE JUST TO ALSO LOOK AT
THE THE -- THE ISSUE
OF PROFITS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP
-- TO ALSO I
MEAN THE IDEA IS THAT THIS
IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER POWER
THAT HAS SENT ENVIRONMENTAL
COMPONENT TO AND AS LONG AS
WE CAN KEEP THIS POWER CHEAPER
AND NOT HAVE THAT RESULT IN
I MEAN WE HAVE -- A UNIT
THAT'S OPERATED BY THE SAME
COMPANY THAT PROVIDES A SERVICE
SO THEY HAVE AN INCENTIVE
TO POTENTIALLY CHARGE MORE
FOR ONE SERVICE OR ANOTHER
I MEAN THEY COULD THINK THEY
THAT MAKE PROFITS ON BOTH SIDES
RIGHT FROM PRODUCTION AND THE
DISTRIBUTION AND DELIVERY IF WE
CAN REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS MUCH
AS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THAT --
THOSE FUNDS --
IF YOU KNOW WHERE I. I
THOUGHT NORMALLY WE WE MEASURE
PROFIT IN TERMS OF THE UNDER
REGULATED UTILITY THAT THE
PROFITS ARE KIND OF CAPPED AT A
CERTAIN MOUNTAINS TWELVE PERCENT
AND AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S
GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE TO
TO THE REVIEW OF THIS PROCESS
GOING FORWARD THERE'S ON
THE WAY IN WHICH THE COMPOSITION
STRUCTURE IS SET UP IS --
THERE'S REASONABLE COST RECOVERY
AND THAT REASONABLE COST
RECOVERY IS REVIEWED BY THE PC
FOR THE ACTUAL COST OF OPERATION
THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NOTE
THE THE OVERALL APPROACH FOR
THAT COMPONENT THERE'S ALSO
THE MANAGEMENT OR PERFORMANCE
FEES THAT HAS -- KIND OF A FIX
AVAILABLE COMPONENT THAT IS
INTENDED IN RECOGNITION OF THE
UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES -- AND
TO BE SURE THAT THERE IS THE
DOLLARS AVAILABLE NECESSARY
FOR SAY IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL
NECESSARY INVESTMENTS IN
WORKFORCE -- FOR PURPOSES THE
RETENTION OF THERE'S ADDITIONAL
NECESSARY INVESTMENTS AND
MAINTENANCE OR OTHER KEY
ELEMENTS TO TO LESSEN OVERALL
COMPENSATION IN ORDER TO ENSURE
THAT THIS IS YOU KNOW THIS
IS THE WHAT WHAT IS NECESSARY
-- AND THAT ALL OF THE DOLLARS
ARE GOING TO A CRITICAL PUBLIC
PURPOSE EITHER MAINTAINING
RELIABILITY AND PAYING WHAT
IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN
RELIABILITY AS WELL AS FOR OTHER
NECESSARY PURPOSES THAT'S THAT'S
THE RATIONALE FOR THE LANGUAGE
IT SAYS THE IT'S REASONABLE COST
RECOVERY THERE THE MANAGEMENT
FEES ON THE PERFORMANCE BENEFITS
THERE IS THE EXPOSURE FOR PG&E
DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS ON
PERFORMANCE AND DOLLARS THERE'S
A P. YOU SEE PROCESS TO ENSURE
THAT YOU KNOW DOLLARS REMOTE
MANAGEMENT FEE IF THEY'RE
NOT GOING TO DIRECT COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE ABA BIG
ARE GOING TO OTHER THINGS THAT
OUR PUBLIC PURPOSE AND A REPAIR
BENEFIT LIKE WILDFIRE SAFETY
LIKE US STRENGTHENING OUR --
IN THE DISTRIBUTION -- AND
HARDENING ACCOMPLISHING THOSE
IMPORTANT GOALS LIKE SPEEDING
UP INTERCONNECTIONS AND THINGS
THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US WITH
THE CAN WITH A CLEAN TRANSITION
NONE OF THE TYPES OF THINGS NOT
NONE OF THE DOLLARS GOING TO
CORPORATE PROFITS TO SHAREHOLDER
BENEFITS OR TO OTHER TYPES OF
THOSE BENEFITS THOSE GUARDRAILS
IN THE LEGISLATION TO ENSURE
THAT DOES NOT OCCUR THANK YOU I
WANT TO THANK ALL THE PRESENTERS
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
OKAY CENTER STERN BUT
WERE I THINK THAT
I WAS IN A FEW VOTE
FILSON ENOUGH FOR US
APOLOGIZE WE WERE VOTING
ANOTHER COMMITTEE SO POLITICS
FOR MISSING THEIR QUESTION
PERIOD BUT I DO HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS IN THIS IS GONNA BE
OUR ONE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO
THAT SO -- THANK YOU FOR THE
INDULGENCE -- --
IS TO TEACH TWO CENTRAL AREAS
OF OF CONCERN FOR ME
-- ONE IS JUST YOUR AND
YOUR YOUR STATEMENT --
FOR THE PRESUMPTION THAT --
LOOK ZERO CARBON RESOURCES HE
SAID QUOTE ARE NOT AVAILABLE
TO MEET THE NEED SEEMS
TO CONTRADICT THE DESIGN
OF THE PROPOSAL YOU'RE BRINGING
FORWARD WHICH IS THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE OFF RAMPS
-- AND A HUGE INVESTMENT
PLAN FOR THOSE KINDS ZERO
CARBON RESOURCES TO MEET
THAT NEED SO I JUST WANT
TO TRY TO GET CLEAR ARE WE
HE IS THE PROPOSAL FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION THAT -- WE'RE
JUST WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP
GOING WITH THE ABLOH AND THAT
WE DON'T BELIEVE THE MARKET
PLACE CAN DELIVER OR IN THE
EVENT THAT -- OUR INVESTMENT
STRATEGIES BEAR FRUIT WE CAN
GET THE IRATE MONEY MOVING
WHICH IS NOT JUST NUCLEAR MONEY
RIGHT THERE'S LOAN GUARANTEES
FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY AND A LOT
OF OTHER RESOURCES OUT THERE
-- IN THOSE IN THAT EVENT
IF SUFFICIENT RESOURCES
ARE ONLINE DEMAND RESPONSE
-- WOULD WE CEASE OPERATION
OR PULL BACK THAT LICENSE
THE PROPOSAL IS TO PURSUE --
KIND OF ALL OF THE ABOVE AND
TO CONTINUE TO EXCEL READING
ON OUR CLEAN TRANSITION AND
WE ARE ASSUMING SIGNIFICANT
GROWTH IN STORAGE RESOURCES
AND OTHER ELEMENTS AS PART OF
ALL THE PROJECTIONS ARE BEFORE
YOU THERE'S AN INTERESTING
CONTINUING TO GO BEYOND THAT
-- IN TERMS OF THE EXTENSION
THE EXTENSION WOULD BE TOUGH
FOR THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TIME
NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN
RELIABILITY SO THERE ARE OFF
RAMPS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED
THERE WOULD BE A NEED TO ENSURE
THAT THEIR SUFFICIENT TIME TO
BE ABLE TO DEAL RESPONSIBLE
DECOMMISSIONING SO THAT SO
THAT THE TERMINATION IS NOT AN
IMMEDIATE OKAY -- -- TURN OFF
BUT THE INTEREST IS TO HAVE
IT BE YOU KNOW FOR A SHORTER
DURATION AS POSSIBLE -- AND
-- AND THAT IS PART OF THE THE
-- BUT THAT IS PART OF WHAT IS
ENVISIONED IN THIS PROCESS WHEN
WE SPEAK TO WHAT I DO WHEN I
TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WHAT
ELSE IS AVAILABLE AND HOW TO
COMPARE THE COST OF THIS POWER
RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER POWER
WE THINK BASED ON WHAT WE
CAN PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT IS
AVAILABLE THE DECISION -- THE
THE YOU KNOW IF IF THERE'S NOT
ACTION NOW THIS RESOURCE BECOMES
UNAVAILABLE BASED ON WHAT WE
KNOW RIGHT NOW WE DO WE THINK
THAT THIS IS A RESOURCE THAT
WE NEED THAT IS THE CLEANEST
MOST COST EFFECTIVE RESOURCE
TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS
ARE AVAILABLE IF OTHER ELEMENTS
IF WE GET MORE STORAGE FASTER
-- IF DEMAND RESPONSE GOALS ARE
IN A RELIABLE WAY AT A FASTER
RATE THE NECESSARY THEN THE
THE NEED IN THE DIRECTION OF
THE EXTENSION COULD BE MODIFIED
BUT AT THIS JUNCTURE BASED ON
WHAT WE KNOW BASED ON WHAT WE
SEE BASED ON WHAT WE CAN GET
INTERCONNECTED WE THINK WE
NEED THIS RESOURCE AND WE --
AND THAT IT IS THE CLEANEST
MOST RELIABLE WAY TO BE ABLE
TO ACHIEVE OUR MEDIA -- -- BUT
-- BAR FORECASTER RELIABILITY
NEEDS BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR
THE THE PLAN YOU'RE PROPOSING
DOES NOT FORECLOSE THE
POSSIBILITY THAT WE WON'T
USE DE UP YOUR BEGINNING THE
RELICENSING PROCESS BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS NOT ONLY IF
NOT ONLY FOR THE RELIABILITY
PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO FROM A COST
PERSPECTIVE IF THE COMMISSION
FINDS THAT THIS IS NOT IN THE
INTEREST OF RATE PAYERS THAT
THEY WILL HAVE A SORORITY
OR IF THE LOAN DOESN'T COME
THROUGH THERE'S IT THAT THERE'S
IN OTHER WORDS AND ECONOMIC
OFFRAMP TO THAT THE COMMISSION
WOULD STILL HAVE DISCRETION
TO -- TO CEASE OPERATIONS
AS YOU SAID IN A REASONABLE
TIME FRAME BUT THAT --
BUT THAT THEY WOULD STILL THEY
WOULD BE DOING SOME OF THAT
REVIEW UP FRONT STACKING UP THE
COSTS AND IF IN FACT THERE ARE
CHEAPER RESOURCES OUT THERE
THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT A
SEVEN FIVE DOLLARS MEGA WATER
WHATEVER YOU QUOTED THAT DEAL
THAT THAT THOSE WOULD OBVIATE
THE NEED TO KEEP PURSUING
IT TOO I HAVE THAT RIGHT THE
THERE WOULD BE THAT ARE INCLUDED
IN THE PROPOSALS ARE ELEMENTS
AND CONTROLS FOR THE GENERAL
FUND LOAN AND THE PACE AT WHICH
THAT LOAN MOVES FORWARD THE --
DETERMINATIONS AROUND -- THE
RELIABILITY OF THE RESOURCE
AND HOW LONG IT IS NECESSARY TO
MAINTAIN RELIABILITY -- AND
AND THERE'S A CONSIDERATION FOR
KIND OF WHAT ELSE IS AVAILABLE
IN THE DETERMINATION OF
RELIABILITY THERE -- IN TERMS
OF THE -- THE SPECIFICS ON
THE FIVE YEAR DURATION THERE
AND THERE IS NOT A THERE IS
NOT OKAY AND ECONOMIC -- IT
IN TERMS OF OF THAT PARTICULAR
PIECE I'M NOT SURE AND I'D
LIKE TO DISCUSS MORE WITH YOU
IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE WHAT
WE DO NOT SEE AT THIS JUNCTURE
AND ECONOMIC ORACLE COST BENEFIT
COMPONENT OF THAT PIECE THERE'S
MORE OF A ISN'T NECESSARY IS
IT AVAILABLE AND CONTROLS TO
ENSURE THAT THE COMPENSATION
STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH
BOTH WHAT WE THINK IS NECESSARY
TO MAKE THIS RESOURCE A
POSSIBILITY AS WELL AS MAKE
IT AS LITTLE COST AS POSSIBLE
FOR RATE PAYERS AND TAXPAYERS
BY BENEFITING FROM THE FEDERAL
FUNDS AND THEN TO THE EXTENT
OF THE THE ACTUAL COSTS INTO
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS INCLUDED
ENSURING THAT ANY ADDITIONAL
DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON
PUBLIC PURPOSES THAT ARE TO
THE BENEFIT OF CALIFORNIANS
AND TO THE BENEFIT OF REPAIRS
OKAY --
SO ON ON THAT POINT THEN WHAT
WHAT IS THE ADMINISTRATION
INVESTING IN THIS SORT OF
ALTERNATIVE STRATEGY TO GIVE TO
GIVE ALL OUR OTHER CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES -- I SHOT AT THIS
THIRD AT SEA OF THE ABOUT
TEN BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT
IN ENERGY THAT IS INCLUDED IN
THE PROPOSAL -- BEFORE YOU
-- ABOUT FIVE OR SIX IS
ASSOCIATED WITH -- CONTINUING
TO SUPPORT -- AND MOVE FORWARD
AN ACCELERATED CLEAN TRANSITION
AND WE ARE OPEN TO WORKING WITH
YOU ON OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT
MAY BE APPROPRIATE PROVIDED THEY
CAN BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN --
THE BUDGET STRUCTURE THAT WE
HAVE -- WORKED ON TOGETHER AND
ARE THERE AND ARE YOU ALSO OPEN
TO -- REGULATORY CHANGES
SUCH AS -- PUSHING THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY
PROCURE THESE CONTRACTS THAT
HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED WE
WE THINK THAT THERE ARE CHANGES
THAT THAT CAN BE MADE IT TO
CONTINUE THE THE THE RIGHT THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
HAS YOU KNOW RECENTLY ORDERED
FOURTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
PROCUREMENT WE THINK THERE ARE
IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE ON
A GOING FORWARD BASIS TO ENSURE
FOR EXAMPLE THAT IN PLANNING --
THE AGENCIES ARE NOT PLANNING ON
A CONTINUATION OF DOUBLE CANYON
THE EFFECT OF THAT IS TO MOVE
FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
WITH OTHER REPLACEMENT RESOURCES
AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN
BE DONE TO SPEAK TO CONTINUE
THE PACE OF PROCUREMENT IN A
MATTER THAT WE THINK WILL WILL
MAKE IT FOR US -- TO AVOID
THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS OF SOME
OF OUR HISTORY THAT WE THINK
CAUSES OTHER CHALLENGES -- IN
OTHER AREAS SO THERE THERE ARE
IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE THINK THAT
WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE AND
CAN BE CONSIDERED TO CONTINUE
TO PROVIDE MORE PREDICTABILITY
-- AND TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND
OUR TRANSITION I KNOW THAT THE
DEMAND RESPONSE PIECE OF IT WE
HIGHLIGHTED IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE
HEARING AND AND LOOKED INTO
THAT THERE WAS TESTIMONY THAT --
A GIGAWATT OF DEMAND RESPONSE
COULD BE UNLOCKED -- EVEN
PRIOR TO TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
BUT THAT THERE IS CURRENT --
-- IMPEDIMENTS ESPECIALLY FOR
THIRD PARTIES -- IF THE
IF IF A CUSTOMER IS MERELY
-- ELIGIBLE NOT EVEN ENROLLED
IN ADMIN RESPONSE PROGRAM IF
THEY'RE CURRENTLY BARRED FROM
PARTICIPATING THOSE MARKETS ZERO
OPENNESS TO TO ADDRESSING THAT
ISSUE THEIR OPENNESS TO WORKING
TOGETHER TO HOW TO CONTINUE
TO EXPAND OUR DEMAND RESPONSE
PROGRAMS IN OUR DEMAND RESPONSE
EFFORTS IN THERE SOMETHING
RECENT SUCCESS IN THIS AREA OUR
FORECAST FOR DEMAND RESPONSE IN
SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WAS IN THE
TWO HUNDRED MEGA WATTS AND --
JUST -- LAST WEEK WE WE WERE
CLOSER TO FOUR HUNDRED FOUR
HUNDRED AND FIFTY SO WE THINK
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN
CONTINUE DOING THAT SPACE AND
THERE ARE IMPORTANT PART OF OUR
RELIABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY
PENSION OKAY AND THEN MY MY LAST
AREA OF QUESTIONING HIS HAS
TO DO WITH THE PERMANENT SIDE OF
THINGS -- CAN YOU DO I I
I KNOW YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED
ON IT BRIEFLY BUT WHAT DO YOU
ANTICIPATE THE ROLE THE COASTAL
COMMISSION LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN
SEQUEL BEING IN THIS PER ROSS'S
WE WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN DIABLO
ED SLIP BLUEPRINTS SUPPORT NOT
FOR SEQUEL SO HOW DO HOW DO
HOW DO YOU PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT
TO YOU IT'S A CONTINUED
OPERATION AND -- OR -- SOME OF
THE AGENCIES THAT ARE INVOLVED
IN IN THIS PROCESS -- BELIEVE
AND THERE AND THERE HAVE BEEN
RULE IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS
THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF AN
EXISTING PROJECT CONTINUED
OPERATIONS TO SEEK WERE YOU
IS NOT IT IS NOT NECESSARY THE
LEGISLATION -- AND SO THEY THEY
TAKE THE POSITION THAT THAT
IS CURRENT LAW THE CHALLENGES
UNCERTAINTY AROUND THAT QUESTION
SO -- SO THE LEGISLATION
BEFORE YOU WOULD -- WOULD
X. MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IN THE
CONTEXT OF THIS EXTENSION THERE
IS A NEED TO LOOK AT MITIGATION
THERE'S A NEED FOR PUBLIC
PROCESS THERE'S A NEED FOR --
MANY OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE
REQUIRED BUT NOT NOT A SEQUEL
A REVIEW IN AND OF ITSELF THE
COASTAL COMMISSION THE ROLE OF
THE COASTAL COMMISSION WILL HAVE
WITHIN THIS PROCESS IS TO KIND
OF LOOK AT THE -- CONSISTENCY
REVIEW IN THE CONSISTENCY REVIEW
THAT IS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL
LAW AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF
THE PROCESS MR LAYERED ASKED
YOU REGARDING THE THE QUESTION
AROUND IF THERE'S A NEED FOR
EXPANSION OF ANY AREA FOR
STORAGE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING
THAT WOULD REQUIRE A COASTAL
DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A LOT OF
AGENCIES WILL DO DIFFERENT PARTS
OF THIS AND WILL DO DIFFERENT
PARTS OF THE REVIEW AND WILL
GRANT DIFFERENT PERMITS -- ALL
OF THOSE WOULD BE CONSISTENT
WITH WITH CURRENT WITH CURRENT
LAW CURRENT REQUIREMENTS BUT
-- WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT SEEK
LOCALIZED BUT WE THINK IT'S
NECESSARY TO QUALITY TO MAKE
THAT REALLY CLEAR SO THAT THE
PERMITS CAN BE GRANTED IN THE
-- IN THE DECISION YES OR NO
COULD BE MADE AND THE AMOUNT
OF TIME THAT IS AVAILABLE
SO WE AS A LEGISLATURE YOU
DON'T THINK SEQUEL PLIES BUT
WE AS A LEGISLATURE WOULD
BE ESSENTIALLY TAKING THAT
DECISION AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC
AND PEOPLE WE BE SORT OF PRE
DECIDING THAT THIS WON'T BE
SUBJECT TO SEACOR VIEW AND
TRY SOME NEW PROCESS THIS BEEN
DEVISED TO TAKE THAT INPUT
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE SORT
OF A NEW VERSION OF IT THAT I
HAVEN'T SEEN BUT YOU WOULD
SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE A PUBLIC
EMPLOYEE WOULD SPECIFICALLY
REQUIRE MITIGATION YOU WOULD
SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE THAT ALL
THE NECESSARY OVERSIGHT IS
BEING DONE AND THAT THESE ISSUES
ARE BEING CONSIDERED BUT WOULD
MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT DOES
NOT REQUIRE A SEPARATE SEQUEL
REVIEW GIVEN THE CONTINUATION
OF OPERATIONS SO OKAY THANK YOU
WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON
NOW TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
TO WANT TO COMMENT I WANT TO
THANK ALL THE PARTICIPANTS THAT
PRESENTED ON THIS OF
WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE
PUBLIC MONEY TO PARTICIPATE
TO CALL NOW PLEASE DIAL IN
THE TOLL FREE NUMBER ONE EIGHT
FOUR FOUR TWO NINE ONE SIX
THREE SIX FOUR AND THE ACCESS
CODE IS ONE FOUR ONE ONE ONE
FOUR ZERO I WILL COME TO THE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BEGIN
WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
HEARING THE HEARING ROOM AND
AGAIN WILL WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT
YOUR COMMENTS TO ONE MINUTE
AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH YOU SIR
JUNOON A CHAIR MISTER CHAIRMAN
AND SENATORS MY NAME'S ED SMELL
OFF I'M REPRESENTING THE CLEAN
POWER CAMPAIGN WHAT A CORRECT A
COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT --
CAME FORTH IN THE TESTIMONY ONE
I'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLANNING
AND RESOURCE ADEQUACY PROCEEDING
WIENER GRADED RESOURCE PLANNING
PROCEEDING THE -- PLANNING
RESERVE MARGIN WAS RAISED TO
TWENTY POINT SEVEN PERCENT SO
ALREADY THE STATE IS TAKING
AN ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE
INCREASE RISKS AS A RESULT OF OF
UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHETHER AND --
AND PROCUREMENT -- COMPLETION
SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING
TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT TO
RESOURCE ADEQUACY IS THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES MEETING THIRTY THE
UTILITIES AND THE COMMUNITY
CHOICE AGGREGATION AGENCIES
EACH OF THOSE AGENCIES ARE
ACTIVELY PROCURING NEW RESOURCES
CURRENTLY TO MEET THEIR RESOURCE
ADEQUACY RESPONSIBILITY ASIAN
WITH CONTRACTS FOR PPAS WITH
DEVELOPERS IS THIS SORT OF
UPSETS THE APPLE CART THESE TO
THE FORTY OR SO LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES ACTIVELY TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE
GOING TO MEET THE PROCUREMENT
RESPONSIBILITY HOW THEY'RE
GOING TO MEET THE RELIABILITY
RESPONSIBILITY AND NOW YOU ARE
POSING A NEW UNCERTAINTY
ABOUT HAVING TO ADD TO THEIR
PLANS THE DEVIL CAN BE ON THE
PGNIG WHAT GRANT TO ALSO INCLUDE
THE S. C. AND SAN DIEGO GAS
ELECTRIC FOOTPRINT SO THAT'S
A THAT'S A MAJOR ISSUE YOU'RE
DISRUPTING BUCKLEY WAS LANDING
THANK YOU CAN WE'RE GONNA
NO SIR ONE MINUTE YOU WERE A
MINUTE AND A HALF THANK YOU
VERY MUCH WE APPRECIATE AND
YOU COULD SUBMIT YOUR WRITING
WRITTEN WE WANT WE ACCEPT THAT
AND THEY WILL BE VERY HELPFUL
WE WILL LOOK AT THEM I PROMISE
YOU THAT NEXT PICKER THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MR CHAIRMAN MY NAME
IS DAN JACOBSON SENIOR ADVISER
TO ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA I'LL
MAKE THREE POINTS VERY VERY
QUICKLY THE FIRST IS THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE
SUPPLY CHAIN IN THE IMPACT THAT
WOULD HAVE WITH THE RENEWABLES
COMING IN BUT THE DIABLO PLAN
WILL ALSO NEED THAT SAME STUFF
COMING IN FROM OVERSEAS SO IF
WE'RE COUNTING ON A DELAY IN
THE RENEWABLES IN THE STORAGE
WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THERE'S
GOING TO BE THE DELAY WITH THE
OTHER PIECES TO THE SECOND THING
THAT I WANT TO SAY IS OBVIOUSLY
JUST GRATEFUL TO EVERYBODY FOR
A GOOD KNOWLEDGE IN THE CLIMATE
CRISIS NOW A FEW OF US AND MANY
OF US IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THIRTY
YEARS AND THE NEED TO ACT ON
THIS SO THAT'S CLEARLY CLEARLY
CRITICAL WE DON'T WANT THIS PLAN
TO BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE OUT ANY
OF THE IMPORTANT PIECES OF THE
RENEWABLE FUTURE THAT WE HAVE
OFFSHORE WIND HAS BEEN MENTIONED
THAT'S GOT TO BE CRITICAL AND
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS
WE WERE OPPOSED TO THE X.
EXTENSION OF THIS DEAL IS A DEAL
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAD THANK YOU
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN
BRISBANE'S WHERE MUCH OF WHAT
THE CLIMATE CENTER -- AND JUST
WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS
IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND ONE POINT
FOUR BILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER
MONEY WHICH DO TWO MAJOR THINGS
THE FIRST IS CREATE FINANCIAL
INCENTIVES THAT HARNESS
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING FLEET OF
DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES
WE'VE GOT TEN GIGAWATTS OF SOLAR
ROOFS FORTY GIGAWATTS FROM OUR
MILLION ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE
SHOULD BE INTEGRATING ALL THOSE
TOGETHER INTO A GRAND PUZZLE
PIECE THAT WILL COVER ALL THE
CAPACITY NEEDS THAT WE WILL NEED
MOVING FORWARD -- THE SECOND
PIECE IS THAT WE SHOULD CREATE
NEW STATE POLICY TO HARNESS FOR
SYSTEMS WHERE I'D GREAT BENEFITS
ALL THE NEW DISTRIBUTED ALLIED
ENERGY RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING
ONLINE BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING
MASSIVE INJECTIONS FROM THE IRA
THE CHIPS ACT AS WELL AS THE
I. J. WE SHOULD BE LEVERAGING
ALL OF THOSE AND ALLOCATING
OUR STATE FUNDING IN SUCH A WAY
THAT IT PULLS TOGETHER ALL THESE
PIECES -- THIS WILL PROVIDE
ECONOMIC BENEFITS AND WOULD HELP
OUR COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT
WEEK THANK YOU MELISSA CORTEZ
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
WIND ENERGY ASSOCIATION --
WE APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION
THAT'S BEEN HAD TODAY
SURROUNDING OFFSHORE WIND
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR WE DON'T
HAVE A POSITION ON WHETHER OR
NOT DIABLO SHOULD BE EXTENDED
BUT SHOULD IT BE EXTENDED ON
WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S A PLANNING PROCESS TO
ENSURE A SEAMLESS TRANSITION
BETWEEN THE CLOSURE OF DIABLO
AND THE INTERCONNECTION OF
OFFSHORE WIND -- WELL THERE
MAY BE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT
ON THE ONGOING OPERATIONS OF
DIABLO MAY PROVIDE SOME PHYSICAL
BARRIERS TO THE INTERCONNECTIONS
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S A PLANNING PROCESS IN
PLACE LEADING UP TO THAT AND
THAT THAT PLANNING PROCESS TO
BEGIN IMMEDIATELY -- IN ADDITION
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE P.
YOU SEE IT DIRECTED TO CONTINUE
OUGHT TO PLAN AND PROCURE CLEAN
ENERGY WHILE ON ITS EXTENDED
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT
DELAYED SIMPLY BECAUSE -- DIABLO
IS STILL ONLINE SO WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE ANY LEGISLATION
INCLUDES THAT AND THAT THIS
LEGISLATION LEGISLATURE
AND THE ADMINISTRATION DO
EVERYTHING IT CAN TO BRING NEW
CLEAN POWER ONLINE THANK YOU
NECKS TRANSPOSITION THEMBA'S
MIKE MONEY GOING TO BE AT THE
STATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
TRADES SO WE ARE HERE TO ENDORSE
EXTENSION OF DYEABLE CANYON
SPECIFICALLY WANT TO SUPPORT
THE REMARKS MADE BY HUNTER STERN
THIS MORNING THURSDAY AFTERNOON
ACTUALLY ON -- FROM LOCAL TWELVE
FORTY FIVE SPECIFICALLY WORK
FORCE AS WELL AS THE RELIABILITY
THAT DYEABLE CANYON PROVIDES
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT
MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS BETH
A LOSS ON BEHALF OF THE
AGRICULTURAL ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION WE REALLY APPRECIATE
THE ADMINISTRATION ADDRESSING
THIS CRITICAL NEED -- FOR
RELIABILITY AND SUPPORT KEEPING
DABBLE OPEN OPEN HOWEVER WE ARE
CONCERNED WITH THE PROPOSAL AND
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT
THE COST RECOVERY EFFORTS --
IN RECOVERY NOT A A VOLUMETRIC
BASIS REALLY UNDULY IMPACTS
LARGE ENERGY USERS LIKE OUR
CULTURAL PROCESS SEEN --
PROCESSORS THAT ARE IN -- TO THE
STATE THAT USE MORE ENERGY -- SO
THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR CONCERNS
IT AND WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE
OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE
SHAREHOLDER ASPECT IS TAKEN CARE
OF -- BUT RATES ARE ARE RISING
AS WE ARE TALKING UP STAIRS
ABOUT NEW RENEWABLE ENERGY GOALS
AND AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT REPAIRS ARE TAKING CARE OF
-- AS IN BEFORE WITH THIS THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU NEXT
BECAUSE THANK YOU TO SHARE
MEMBERS MICHAEL GUNNING HERE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION YOU CAN
APPRECIATE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT
TO HAVE GREAT RELIABILITY AS
WE TRY TO INCREASE HOUSING
PRODUCTION IN THE STATE SO
WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
GOVERNOR'S PLANS TO KEEP IT
OPEN I THANK YOU NEXT WEEK
HI THANK YOU CHEN MY NAME'S
ALREADY HEN AND THE STATE
DIRECTOR FOR ENVIRONMENT
CALIFORNIA AND WE STAND IN A
POSITION TO THE EXTENSION OF
THE DIABLO CANYON NUCLEAR PLANTS
-- WE THINK THAT THE ONE POINT
FOUR BILLION DOLLARS SHOULD
BE SPENT ON INVESTING IN THE
CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE THAT WE ALL
WANT TO SEE AND AND PUTTING
IT TOWARDS EXTENDING DOUBLE
CANYON IS REALLY THROWING GOOD
MONEY AFTER BAD WE'RE READY
TO SEE THIS RETIRED AND AND
ALSO WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT REPAIRS BEING SUBJECT
TO ADDITIONAL LIABILITY IN
THE FUTURE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
ADDITIONAL COSTS ARE GONNA COME
UP AND SO THAT'S OUR POSITION
THANK THANK YOU NEXT WEEK
RESEARCHER ALEX JACKSON WITH
AMERICAN CLEAN POWER CALIFORNIA
WE'RE JUST HERE TO ENDORSE
THE CALL FROM CENTER MEN LAYER
AND OTHERS THAT AS WE CONSIDER
TAKING THIS EXTRAORDINARY STEP
WE PUT EQUAL EMPHASIS AND FOCUS
ON BUILDING OUT THAT RENEWABLES
ROADMAP IN PARTICULAR AREAS
AROUND ACCELERATING TRANSMISSION
APPROVALS PROVIDE FINANCIAL
SUPPORT TO COUNTIES THAT ARE
DOING THE PREVENTING IN THE
CITING AND ENSURING THAT ARE
PLANNING FOR BOTH GENERATION
AND TRANSMISSION CAN ACCOMMODATE
LONG LEAD TIME RESOURCES LIKE
OFFSHORE WIND THAT WE NEED TO
MEET OUR LONG TERM GOALS THANK
YOU THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER
GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBER CHAIRS
IN THE SPRING WHITE WITH
OPTIONAL IN CALIFORNIA WE ARE
A ASSOCIATION OF FORTY MEMBER
AFTER WHEN DEVELOPERS AND
TECHNOLOGY PROVIDERS WHO ARE
VERY SUPPORTIVE OF LOOKING
AT CULTURE WHEN AS A FUTURE
RESOURCE I WOULD JUST SAY
THAT -- WE ASSOCIATE OUR COULD
COMMENTS WITH KELLY AND SOMEONE
COMES TO A C. P. JUST MADE UP
CALLED OTC BELIEVES THAT STATE
LEADERS MUST DO EVERYTHING
POSSIBLE TO AVOID DISRUPTING
THE FUTURE OFFSHORE WIND
TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL BE COMING
ALONG AND IF THE APPLE IS
EXTENDED BUT FOR A VERY SHORT
TERM AND AND THAT IS VERY
IT'S VERY SHORT WELL WE NEED TO
ENSURE THAT WHATEVER IS GOING
TO BE DONE WITH A DOUBLE KILLING
THAT WE HAVE THIS RESOURCE
AVAILABLE FOR OFFSHORE WIND SO
THAT THE CAPACITY TO TAP INTO
THE INTERCONNECTION TRANSMISSION
IS NOT DISRUPTED SO WE DON'T
HAVE A YES OR NO WITH WITH GOT
TO DOUBLE BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS OFFER NGUYEN IS
ARE NOT GOING TO BE DISRUPTED
BY WHATEVER IS DONE WITH THE
APPLE BEING EXTENDED THANK YOU
THANKS VERY MUCH I WILL GO TO
WITNESSES WEIGHED IN ON THE
FROM THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT --
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PLEASE
PROMPT INDIVIDUALS WAITING
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS
THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE PRESS
ONE SEVEN ZERO AT THIS TIME
WHAT ONE ONE TWENTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
RIGHT ONE THIRTY
EIGHT PEOPLE HAVE
HI CAN YOU HEAR ME YES
YES PLEASE GO AHEAD
THANK YOU SO MUCH MISTER
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OR TRACK A
PICTURE OF THE CALIFORNIA DEM
PARTY ENVIRONMENTAL CAUCUS
AND I STAND IN ASSOCIATION
WITH AS MANY OF THE COMMENTS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE EXTENDING
THE UPLOAD IT UNNECESSARY CUTS
YOU PART PEOPLE AND MISSION
ENERGY FUTURE INSTEAD OF WASTING
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EXPANDING
THE OPERATING LICENSE FROM
THIS PLAN WE PROPOSE USING
YOU STATE FUNDS TOOK CELEBRATE
INVESTMENTS AND BADLY SWITCH
CAN BE ONLINE POSSIBLE ATHLETE
THE NEW GAS GENERATION FOR
FIXING THE APPLICATION YET CUT
CRAFTED ON THE SITE MAKE WITH
ACCELERATE INVESTMENT AND
DEMAND RESPONSE STRATEGIES AND
MANDATE CCNP QC POLICY
CONSPECIFIC TARGETS TO UNLEASH
DEMAND FOR FUNDS WHICH PROVIDE
FLEXIBILITY TO USE COMMAND
AT EIGHT AND AT EIGHT WORSHIP
HIM AND TO MEET OTHER NEEDS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WILL GO
TO SUPPORT AND I HOPE THEY DO IT
THANK YOU I'M NINETY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
FIVE NINE SEVEN
ONE FORTY TO PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI MY NAME IS JENNIFER CLAY I
LIVE IN SAN LUIS OBISPO AND I'M
A PROFESSOR OF PHYSICS AT CAL
POLY AND MY AREA OF EXPERTISE
IS NUCLEAR PHYSICS ASSEMBLY MUST
KEEP DIABLO CANYON OPERATING
PASSED THE CURRENT CLOSURE
DATE THE TERM LIABLE TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED MEGAWATTS MAKE
UP NEARLY TWELVE PERCENT OF
OUR IN STATE LOW CARBON POWER
TO SHUT IT OFF NOW WOULD TAKE
US BACKWARDS WHILE JEOPARDIZING
OUR HEALTH AND OUR ECONOMY
FROM THE THREAT OF BLACKOUTS
AND ENERGY SHORTAGES THURSDAY
APRIL NINETEENTH AT THE SHOW
THAT KEEPING GAVEL CANYON OPEN
COULD ACTUALLY SAVE RATEPAYERS
IN THE STATE TWENTY BILLION
DOLLARS THE BRATTLE GROUP
REPORT BACK WITHOUT INTERFERENCE
EVALUATED YABA FIVE SIX SIXTY
AND VALIDATED THAT THE RISK
OF A SEISMIC ACCIDENTS ARE
EXCEEDINGLY AND ACCEPTABLY
LOW PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR NUCLEAR
POWER IN GENERAL IS GROWING
AND LOCAL SUPPORT FOR KEEPING
THE OUTLOOK SPANIEN OPEN IS
OVER SEVENTY PERCENT IN RECENT
POLLING CALIFORNIA SHOULD
CONTINUE TO SHOW ITS LEADERSHIP
ON CONFRONTING CLIMATE CHANGE
MAINTAINING A RELIABLE GRID
AND ENSURING AFFORDABLE POWER
BY KEEPING DIABLO CANYON
OPEN THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT SPEAKER THANK YOU
I NINETY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME
YES YES GO AHEAD
WHO IS NOT THERE I'M IN MY
THIRTIES AND EVEN SOME JUST
BILLS THANK YOU FOR THAT FROM
FRIENDS THE COUNTRY PUT IT
THERE IN THE PERCENT OF THE
CITY CONTINUE USING THEIR
POWER THROUGH THE NINETEEN
EIGHTIES ONE OF THE BATTERIES
OF THE COMPETITION IN THE WORD
TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A
BIGGER POWER IN THE SENATE AND
EFFECTIVE WAY TO PRODUCE ENERGY
INTANGIBLE DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION
YES THE NEW YORK WAS BETTER WAS
WE WANT TO DRIVEN CAR TRUCK THE
BUT THE THING IS THAT I'M NEVER
EXPOSED TO SPENT NUCLEAR FUEL
TECHNOLOGY KNOWLEDGE PARTICULAR
MISSION WE ALL GET IN THE NATION
CUT TRAFFIC JUST BEGINNING THE
JUST BEGINNING DOUBLE CREDIT
MUCH MORE RISKY MILLION US
BECAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING THEM
EVERY DAY I'M NOT A SINGER
FEELS BETTER THE HONOR HE IN
OTHER INDEPENDENT EXPERTS --
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ENSURE
SAFETY I THREATEN TO CONNECTING
OPERATIONS IN THE BOOK AND
FIND OUT WHAT'S BY AGAINST
YOUR MISINFORMATION THE REAL
RISK UP ALL OF THE JEWS AND BY
THE WAY CLIMATE CHANGE ANYBODY
TO READ THE COMMENTS THAT I
THINK OVER EMAIL A DIFFERENT
FORMATION ABOUT TIMBER MODELS
CAUGHT FIFTY BUCKS OF NUCLEAR
POWER THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THIS THANK YOU RYAN ONE
FORTY NINE PLEASE GLASS
THE NEXT DAY
WILLIAMS I THINK THAT WE'RE WHAT
WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY WILL BE
BETTER DEFINING MOMENT FOR FELT
BUT ON THE SIDE OF SCIENCE IN
THE QUANTUM EDUCATION STRATEGIES
AT ANYBODY INTERGOVERNMENTAL
PANEL ON OR WILL WE CONTINUE
TO BE MIRED IN NINETEEN SEVENTY
TWO ANTI NUCLEAR IDEOLOGY
ARE YOU THE POWER BUT I
FOUND OUT THAT MY HUSBAND
FORCES MEDICINE HAD MISLED ME
FOR TOP NEWS FOR
INFORMATION COME OUT CLEAR
HI TO THE MEDICAL DENTAL
HEALTH BUSINESSES RADIOBIOLOGY
REGULATORY SAFETY AT I AM
EIGHTY EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT
AND YOU LEARN SCIENTIFIC
COMMITTEE ON THE CORRECT
YEAH THAT WOULD BE A BLOW ARE
VERY SAFE AND EFFECTIVE THE
CONVOCATION FILEPIC CALIFORNIA
FIVE PERCENT A LARGE EXPORTS
OF CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY
REPUBLICANS INSTEAD ON CUTTING
DOWN THE GAS PLANT THIS BILL
PROVIDE FIFTY PERCENT OF OUR
ELECTRICITY IN CALIFORNIA
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIX
SPEAKER PLEASE CHANGE YOUR MIND
ONE SEVENTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI MY NAME IS A CHRIS TOBY
I'M AN ENGINEER LIVING IN THE
CENTRAL COAST I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THE EXTENSION OF THE ABA CANYON
AND THAT IS THE SINGLE LARGEST
MOST RELIABLE ENVIRONMENTALLY
FRIENDLY SOURCE OF POWER WE
SHOULD EXTEND IT FOR AS LONG AS
POSSIBLE NOT A MERE FIVE TO TEN
YEARS THE MAXIMUM BENEFITS TO
SOCIETY IDEALLY IT SHOULD ONLY
BE SHUT DOWN AFTER ALL OFF THE
FIELD OPERATIONS ELIMINATED OR
NEW ADVANCED NUCLEAR REACTORS
CAN BE BUILT ONE OF THE
CRITICIZED MR CABIN ARE AND
THEN OR DO YOU SEE -- MISTER
CALDERON ON THE TALK ABOUT
HONORING LEGACIES BUT THE LEGACY
OF THE ENERGY SHE CONDEMNS
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OF
PREMATURE DEATH SHUDDERING AND
NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS INDIAN
POINT IN NEW YORK AS CARS ARE
PARKED THE FUEL POLLUTION TO BE
UNNECESSARILY INCREASED GOING
TO THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
BOB HOPE YOU'LL POLLUTION CARBON
SEVEN MILLION PREMATURE DEATHS
ANNUALLY BESIDES THE PARTICULATE
POLLUTION OVERALL IMPACTED
MY MISSING CERKNICA FONG
AFTER SOME COLD AMOUNTS OF
MONEY AND AND MARCH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NEXT SPEAKER
PLEASE HURRY THANK YOU I WON
SEVENTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO AND HOW THE TREND TECH
CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIANS ARE LOOKING JUST
AS A LANCE HOW DOES NOT SUPPORT
EXTENDING THE DIABLO CANYON
POWER PLANT TOUGHEST CURTAIN
RETIREMENT DATE OF TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE HOWEVER IT TENDED
TO STRONGLY URGE THE FOLLOWING
CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDED IN ANY
FINAL LEGISLATION TO MINIMIZE
HARM AND PROTECT ENVIRONMENT
AND COMMUNITIES IRAN AND
THE USE OF ALL ONCE YOU'RE
CALLING TECHNOLOGY BY TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE FOR ALL FACILITIES
EXCEPT THE UPPER CANYON AND
BY TWENTY THIRTY FOR ALL
FACILITIES INCLUDING DIABLO
CANYON REQUIRE POLITICAL REVIEW
FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE OTHER
CANYON REQUIRE TRANSPARENT
STATE REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS
THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY INPUT
AND PARTICIPATION ENSURE THE
CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION
RETAINS A FULL INDEPENDENT
AUTHORITY TO APPROVE PROJECTS
THAT IMPACT THE COAST PROTECT
VULNERABLE REPAIRS FROM
ENERGY BILL IMPACTS AND THAT'S
NOW IN MEDIUM AND LONG TERM
ENERGY RELIABILITY SOLUTIONS
SUCH AS COMMUNITY SOLAR AND
STORAGE THANK YOU THANK YOU
NEXT PICKER THANK YOU ONE
ONE SEVENTY FOUR PEOPLE HAVE
HI LARA RUIZ
THE FOR HIRE HEAR
ME THIS WE CAN'T
THE -- BACKGROUND
FOR GO AHEAD AND SPEAK
BY ONE SEVENTY FOUR
GIPSON THAT LINE DROPPED QUITE
ONE SEVENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI MY NAME IS JIM HOFT I'M A
CALIFORNIA RESIDENT AND POLICY
LEADERS GENERATES AN ATOMIC
IN NATIONAL GRASSROOTS NUCLEAR
EVAN ORGANIZATION AND I'M HERE
TO ADVOCATE FOR THE CONTINUED
OPERATION OF DIABLO CANYON'S
YEAH LOWS THIRTY RELIABLE POWER
WILL BE AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED
IT MOST BUT THE SUPERLEAGUE
EVENING PEAK WHICH -- THAT
PROPELLER ARMS ARE NO LONGER
GENERATING POWER THE STATE IS
PROJECTING AN EIGHTEEN HUNDRED
MEGAWATT POWER GENERATION
SHORTFALL IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
GREATLY INCREASE THE RISK OF
POWER SHORTAGES AND BLACKOUTS
AND IT WILL OCCUR EVEN IF
THE STATE PROCUREMENT EFFORTS
FOR RENEWABLES AND STORAGE
THE PERFECT PLACE FOR CLIMATE
OF STANFORD MIT REPORT CONCLUDED
THAT KEEPING DOUBLE CANYON
OPEN OR DO CALIFORNIA PARTS OF
THE FIELD AND BY TEN PERCENT
WELL YOU KNOW ONE THING A
CONTROLLING AND THAT THE PLAN IS
TO ALLOW THE UP WILL BE CLOSED
ONE IT'S NOT NEEDED FOR SURE
GREAT RELIABILITY YOU DON'T
MEET THAT POWER FOR THAT ONE
PEAK TIME WHEN THEY'RE HAVING
DIFFICULTY BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT
THE APPLE CANYON WILL EVENTUALLY
REPLACE GET OUT THE ONE FOR
ONE BASIS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THIS THANK YOU I WON EIGHTY
THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD
RIGHT AWAY EIGHTY THREE
THANK YOU LEGISLATORS MY NAME
IS ISABEL BEEN A KEY AND I'M
THE FOUNDER OF STATE CLEAN
ENERGY ORGANIZATION THAT'S
FOCUSED ON PROMOTING PRAGMATIC
SOLUTIONS TO THE CLIMATE CRISIS
I'M ALSO A LATIN IMMIGRANTS
AND AS SOON TO BE MOTHER
TWENTY FOUR FALLING SHORT
IN THE CARBONIZATION GOLD IS
DEALING WITH AN ENERGY CRISIS
KEEPING THE APPLICATION OPEN
FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER TEN YEARS
IT'S ONLY LOGICAL WILL
HELP KEEP THE LIGHTS ON REDUCE
EMISSIONS AND REDUCE NEGATIVE
AFTER NINE YEARS SEVENTY HAVE
CONCLUDED THE PLAN TO SAVE
EARTHQUAKE CONTINUE ENTERTAINING
QUESTIONS AROUND IT MAKES
EIGHTY WOULD BE LIKE IN THE
BEGINNING CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER
TALKING AT ACROSS THE COUNTRY
WE ONLY CONSIDER SHUTTING
DOWN THE APPLICATION ONCE
WE GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF
OUR ELECTRICITY FROM CARBON
FREE SOURCES THE CALIFORNIA
FOR COMMITMENTS TO CLEAN ENERGY
AND FOR BEING A LEADER IN THE
FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE
THREE LEADING THE WAY BOB
KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON PLEASE
EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE
APPLICATION AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT
SPEAKER BUT I WANT TO REMIND
ALL THE SPEAKERS AT TWO TO ONE
MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT TO TRY
TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS WITHIN
WHAT THE SIXTY SECONDS ONE
MINUTE MODERATOR PLEASE CALL THE
NEXT PICKER THANK YOU I
WON EIGHTY FIVE PEOPLE HAVE
HI CAN YOU HEAR ME YES WE CAN
THANK YOU DR CLAIRE BROOME
I'M A PROFESSOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH
AND REPRESENTS THREE FIFTY BAY
AREA AFTER CPUC ON RENEWABLE
ENERGY FIRST A FACT
DURING THE AUGUST TWENTY TWENTY
OUTAGES DIABLO CANYON WORSENED
THE SITUATION HI SO HAD TO
KEEP RESERVE IN CASE JOBLO
CANYON WENT DOWN AND JEOPARDIZE
THE ENTIRE WESTERN GRIP
SO THIS IS NOT A LIABILITY
SOLUTION WHAT THE GRID NEEDS
IS FLEXIBLE ENERGY WHICH CAN
RESPOND TO UNEXPECTED DAYTIME
KEY AND ALSO THE INCREASING
ELECTRIFICATION DIABLO CANNOT
DO THAT IT DRIVES OUT RENEWABLES
PLEASE USE YOUR MONEY AND
EFFORT TO DIRECT THE PUC'S
TO UNLEASH THE ONE GIGAWATT
OF DEMAND RESPONSE AND FIGURE
OUT HOW TO STOP OR ADDRESS
THESE BARRIERS TO BATTERIES
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT BIGGER
THANK YOU I WON EIGHTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI MY NAME IS JULIA THE WALL
I AM A RESIDENT OF LOS ANGELES
-- MOTHER OF ONE SEEM TO BE
FEW I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE
EXTENT OF THE APPLE CANYON
WE NEED NOT JUST FOR SHORT
TERM RELIABILITY WHICH IS
IMPORTANT YOU DON'T WANT TO
BE EXPERIENCING BLACKOUTS --
BUT WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING
THE ALBUM UNTIL WE REPLACE
ALL FOSSIL FUELS WHICH MAKE
UP HALF OF CALIFORNIA'S
POWER AND WE NEED TO GET OUR
TWENTY FORTY FIVE GOALS --
WE WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT THINGS WE HAVE
IN ADDITION -- WE THOUGHT A
REALLY EXCITING -- ELECTRIC
VEHICLE MANDATE -- WHICH I'D
LIKE TO SEE AHEAD AS WELL THE
OTHER THAN UNIQUE MEANINGFUL
CONTRIBUTOR TO THAT AND WE
SHOULD ONLY BE ADDING TO OUR
CARBON FREE ENERGY GENERATION
OPTIONS IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY
AND KEEPING THE APPLE AROUND
DIDN'T GETTING IN THE WAY AND
BUILDING MORE RENEWABLES AND
MORE STORAGE LEFT YOU ALL OF
THIS THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
BIGGER THANK YOU I'M ONE
THIRTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
ONE THREE FIVE HELLO
MY NAME IS IN THE MATHIS MAYES
YES YES GO AHEAD OKAY
CALLING FOR MAKING CALIFORNIA
I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL
PLEASE EXPAND MARQUEE ELBOWS
-- WE'RE GOING TO GET
NOW IS VERY HAPPY WITH IT
AND RIGHT OR TO CLEAN
ENERGY HELLO TEAM WILL BE
ADEQUATE CARD PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA IF IT'S NOT EXTENDED
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT BIGGER
THANK YOU I WON EIGHTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
ONE EIGHT SIX GO AHEAD
MY NAME IS RYAN PICKERING
THE OUTLOOK CANYON IS LOCATED
ON THE COAST THE ANCESTRAL
HOMELAND TO BE UP TO YOU TEACH
YOU GOT FILIPPINI PEOPLE KNOWN
AS LOCALLY AS Y. P. T. ON
JULY TWENTY SEVENTH MOMENTS
AFTER THE TRIBAL CHAIR OF WHY
KEEP HE SENT A LETTER TO THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THE LETTER
EXPRESSED UNANIMOUS SUPPORT
FROM Y. T. T. TRIBAL COUNCIL
TO DEMAND THE RETURN OF DIABLO
LANDS THE PLAN WAS STOLEN
FROM Y. T. T. WITHOUT CONSENT
AGREEMENT OR COMPENSATION THE
TRIBAL RESOLUTION LAYS OUT
A PATHWAY TOWARDS RESTORING
THE LANDS TO THE TRIBE FOR
CONSERVATION THE YPG TRIBE
WAS NOT CONSULTED IN THE TWENTY
SIXTEEN OR TWENTY THINGS LIKE
PROPOSAL TO CLOSE THE PLANT
OUR TRIBE HAS SPOKEN
PUBLICLY THAT THEY ARE WILLING
TO LEASE THE LAND TO PG&E
TO CONTINUE OPERATION OF THE
PLANT I CALL ON THE SENATE TO
SUPPORT EXTENDED OPERATIONS FOR
DIABLO CANYON THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR NEXT SPEAKER PLUS
THANK YOU I WON EIGHTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
NINE ONE EIGHT SEVEN
BUT TRY ROOM ONE
TWELVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO MY NAME IS JOHN
LONG I'M CONSTITUENTS IN
GOVERNOR CANDIDATE DOLLY
DISTRICT IN ELDORADO
THE POINT OF THE AIRFORCE
ACADEMY GRADUATE CAL POLY
SAN LUIS OBISPO IN ELECTRICAL
ENGINEERING I ALSO WORK
FOR A GREAT RISK MANAGER
FEDERATION INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT A LOT OF CREDIT
TO BE OBTAINED BY ANYONE WHO
PURCHASES RENEWABLE AND SOLD
ON THE OPEN MARKET ANYONE ELSE
UNLIMITED RESOURCES CONSIDERED
AN ADDICTION ALL OTHER FEDERAL
FUNDING SURE WINNER NOW HAS A
VERTICAL JEFF POWERS SUCH AS
VORTEX THE TICKET LET PLAN SO
CAN BE DONE COMPLETED CURRENT
WITH TRANSMISSION ALSO NATIONAL
SECURITY ACUTE OR CHRONIC
MEDICAL NEED TO THE CONSIDERED
MOVING FORWARD SO I RECOMMEND
THAT THE COMMITTEE DELAYED
RADIATION OF THIS SECTION AT
LEAST UNTIL JANUARY TIME
TO CONSIDER THE ISSUE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH THANK YOU VERY MUCH
UNEXPECTED PLACE THANK YOU
I WON FIFTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI CAN I BE HEARD IN THE --
ENERGY HEARING REGARDING DOUBLE
CANYON WHICH I DEFINITELY
SUPPORT KEEPING OPEN YOU WERE
LIST AND I SEE YOU HAVE A LITTLE
MORE TIME LISTENING AND I'VE
HEARD YES YES I KNOW
THE PERK I GOT NINETY SECONDS
AND THE YOU KNOW COMMENTS
SEEM TO BE GETTING SHORTER AND
SHORTER BUT I DO APPRECIATE
YOU TAKING COMMENTS -- BUT
THERE WERE QUITE A BIT OF THE
HEARING THAT I ACTUALLY HAD TO
DO WITH -- LIKE PG&E AND GIVEN
THAT I'M A DISPLACED PERSON
FROM PG&E FEEL LIKE I CAN SPEAK
A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT IT WAS
LIKE TO WAKE UP IN OCTOBER OF
SEVENTEEN -- WITH THE FELLOWS
ON FIRE AND RUNNING WITH MY
FOUR KIDS LITTLE LITTLE BIT
OF A WEIRD HEARING FOR ME
BECAUSE -- JUST KIND OF THE
ECHO SENATOR DOLLY IT SEEMS
LIKE WE'RE IN CRISIS MODE
AND -- ALL THESE SORT OF SPECIAL
INTERESTS THAT SEEM TO BE
DICTATING HOW THIS HEARING IS
GONE INCLUDING THE AXE BURKE
FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
WHO STATE TWO HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HEARING
IS DECADES TO LATE BECAUSE
BETWEEN THE CORRUPTION OF THE
PC YOU SEE AND PG&E
AND YOUR -- YOU KNOW RADICAL
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES THAT
YOU'RE TIRED THE SIERRA
CLUB I JUST HAVE TO SAY OF
THE DISPLACED PERSON FROM A
SPOT FIRE I DON'T TRUST THE
LEGISLATURE I DON'T TRUST THIS
GOVERNOR WITH THE ENERGY AND
UTILITY ISSUE THANK YOU FOR
AND I. ANNEXING BAKER PLEASE
THANK YOU RYAN EIGHTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD GOOD AFTERNOON
DR APARTMENT ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA LARGE ENERGY
CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION THESE
ARE THE LARGER REPAIRS THE
MANUFACTURES INDUSTRIAL
COMPANIES HERE IN CALIFORNIA WE
HAVE AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THE DRAFT LANGUAGE
-- WE HAVE ONE COMMENT ON
THE RATE ISSUE USING A CARD
FROM MR TONY AND THERE'S A LOT
THOUGH EARLIER ABOUT CONCERNS WE
SHARE THOSE CONCERNS WE THINK
THAT -- DIABLO THE RELIABILITY
INVESTMENT AND THE COSTS NEED
TO BE RECOVERED APPROPRIATELY
TO REFLECT BUT IF IT IS THE
RELIABILITY RESOURCE IN OTHER
WORDS HAVE THE CAPACITY BATES
ALLOCATION WE ALSO HAVE OTHER
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS THE
PROPOSAL WHICH WE WILL SEND
TO YOU BUT -- MAINLY IT'S THE
RATEPAYER IMPACT AND WE ARE
INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE
FULL COST INCREASES TO RATE
PAYERS THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT
SPEAKER THANK YOU RYAN ONE
NINETY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
YEAH -- AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
ERIC BROKE SOME REPRESENTING
CALIFORNIANS FOR ENERGY CHOICE
WHICH WORKS TO PROTECT AND
EXPAND THE COMMUNITY CHOICE
CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAMS IN
CALIFORNIA I HAVE TO SAY THAT
I'M ABSOLUTELY AND WE ARE
ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED BY THIS
ANTI ENVIRONMENTAL PROPOSAL THAT
WOULD TAKE A BILLION AND A HALF
DOLLARS TO KEEP A DINOSAUR POWER
PLANT OPEN IT'S DANGEROUS WHEN
WE COULD TAKE THAT MONEY AND
SPEND IT ON A LOT MORE AND A LOT
CHEAPER RENEWABLES EFFICIENCY
AND STORAGE IN MY LAST COMMENT
IS THIS WHOLE THING IS BASED
ON A FALSE PREMISE THE ECHO THE
ECOLOGIST A FEW YEARS AGO HAS A
GREAT ARTICLE YOU CAN LOOK IT UP
LOOK UP ON THE ECOLOGIST FALSE
SOLUTION NUCLEAR POWER IS
NOT LOW CARBON ALL SOLUTION
NUCLEAR POWER IS NOT LOW CARBON
AND YOU'LL FIND A META ANALYSIS
THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY
HIGHLY CARBON EMITTING AND
THAT THIS IS A BAD PROPOSAL
THE ONLY WAY TO AMEND THIS IS
TO PUT IT IN THE TRASH BIN WHERE
IT BELONGS AND AGAIN IT'S AN
OUTRAGE THAT THE GOVERNOR IS
EVEN PUTTING THIS JOKE FORWARD
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT SPEAKER
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ONE
SIX BEFORE PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME YES
RIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT MY NAME
IS MANY FACTORY I'M A THREE
FIFTY FOUR COMPELLING NUMBER AS
WELL AS DIFFERENT CLIMATE VOTER
FROM SAN JOSE I WAS EVACUATED
DURING THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN
SATURDAY WHAT ONE HUNDRED
AND FOUR BILLION DOLLARS NEEDS
TO GO TO WORK HE MANY GRID
AND ROOFTOP SOLAR NOT THE
TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES EVIDENT
BUT USUALLY WHAT TROUBLING GREEN
THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT
MARKS THE THANK YOU
CAN EXPECT THANK YOU
I'M FIFTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD
FIVE FIVE EIGHT
YES WHAT ARE
MY NAME IS KILLED THEM DOWN
WHEN RESIDENT OVER A GRANDE
I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF ST
LOS INSTALLATION PIECE I AM
ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO EXTENDED
OPERATION OF DIABLO CANYON I
ECHO COMMENTS BY RAF CABANA
THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED
WITH SEVERAL ANALYSIS TO CONFIRM
THAT WE REALLY NEED ENERGY
FROM THE ALBUM I APPLAUD CAN
DELFINO SCALLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION GREGORY WITH MISTER
KELLY CONCLUSION THAT THIS
BILL IS A NIGHTMARE FOR RATE
AND TAXPAYERS AND A BOON FOR
PG&E STAKEHOLDERS SHAREHOLDERS
URGE OUR SENATORS TO REJECT
THIS LAST MINUTE MESSI BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT
SPEAKER THANK YOU I WANT
TO FIX CRITICAL HAVE
ONE ZERO SIX
WHITEWATER ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO MY NAME IS JENNY EXTRA --
AND THAT THE CHARACTER CALPERS
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC INTEREST
RESEARCH GROUP WE ARE OPPOSED
TO THE EXPANSION OF THE DIABLO
NUCLEAR PLANT CALIFORNIA HAS
MADE SOME GREAT PROGRESS IN
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND BUILDING
CLEAN RELIABLE POWER SOURCES AND
WE SHOULD DOUBLE DOWN ON CLEAN
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND STORAGE
THAT CORPORATE RELIABILITY
RATHER THAN RELYING ON EATING
INFLEXIBLE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT
PICKER THANK YOU ONE ONE
NINETY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
STONE HI MY NAME IS STEVE
ROSENBLOOM ON THE NUCLEAR
CHEMISTRY IN A RESIDENT OF
PALO ALTO DO NOT MAKE
A DECISION TO REVERSE THE
PREVIOUS WELL CONSIDERED PLAN
TO CLOSE THE OUTLOOK AND IT
BY TWENTY TWENTY FIVE PERCENT
ON ECONOMIC AGENCIES USING ON
A LOT OF TORONTO'S OPTIMISTIC
NUMBER OF SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS
A MEGAWATT HOUR IT STILL MAKES
NUCLEAR POWER TWICE AS EXPENSIVE
AS WIND OR SOLAR POWER WHICH
IS LESS THAN FORTY DOLLARS A
MEGAWATT HOUR COOLEY NUCLEAR IS
A HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS MEGAWATT
HOUR NATIONWIDE SO I'M NOT
SURE YOU KNOW WHERE OUR NUMBER
COMES FROM BUT IT SEEMS TO
BE A LOW ESTIMATE IS
THAT -- REACTORS HAVE A FINITE
LIFETIME FOR GOOD REASONS SENATE
ELECTION DAMAGE TO THE PRIMARY
CORE COOLING SYSTEM -- CAN LEAD
TO CATASTROPHIC EXPLOSIONS OF
HIGH PRESSURE STEAM -- WHICH
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SYSTEM
COULD NOT BE DIRECTLY INSPECTED
OR TESTED WITHOUT BRINGING
REACTED TO COLD SHUTDOWN
-- THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
NEXT WEEK -- THANK YOU I'M
EIGHTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI THIS IS CHRIS CAMPBELL
FROM LA SAID SPEAK CLEARER
JURISDICTION OVER RADIATION
AND RADIOACTIVE MATERIALS
AT COMMERCIAL NUCLEAR POWER
FACILITIES AND YET THE STATE
THE STATE WANTS TO BURY ITS
HEAD IN THE SAND AND DECLARE
THAT SHE QUIT DOESN'T APPLY
TO THIS AND THAT THE POLITICAL
DEVELOPMENT PERMIT ISN'T NEEDED
ALSO WHAT ALSO PEOPLE SHOULD
REALIZE THAT IN THE TWENTIETH
TO THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
THERE'S HIGH BURNUP FUEL BEING
USED AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO
INTO DRY CASKS BUT INSTEAD
IT GOES INTO THE STIRS A MERE
HALF INCH FIVE EIGHTHS OF AN
INCH THICK WHICH THEY THEN OPER
STOP SPENT FUEL ROD ASSEMBLIES
THE WHOLE TECH COMPANY CEO
ADMITTED THAT HIS COMPANY'S
CANISTERS COULD NOT BE INSPECTED
REPACKAGED OR TRANSPORTED
-- THE
PROPOSAL OF THE LAST DECADE WAS
APPROPEDIA POSITION BECAUSE THAT
WAS A SELLOUT PG&E POSITION THIS
IS THIS CLOUT THE PROPOSAL --
SELLOUT THE P. JEANNIE POSITION
AND IF SHE CAN GET A PENNY
AND SOME EXECUTIVES DESERVED
CHANNEL TIME INSTEAD THANK
YOU THANK YOU THE NEXT
SPEAKER PLEASE THANK YOU I'M
ONE OF SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
REPORTER YOU ARE SIMILAR
AND EVEN LOG INTO IT FROM MY
CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WIRED
REACTED NOT INSURED AFTER THIRTY
YEARS OF OPERATION THEY STILL
GET CAN'T GET INSURANCE YOU
CANNOT GUARANTEE ME THAT THERE
WILL NOT BE AN EXPLOSION AT
THE ADVOCATING THAT WILL SEND
A RADIOACTIVE CLOUD SHE IS A
LOS ANGELES I THINK THE FACT
THAT YOU CAN'T GET INSURANCE
BARS NO NOBODY CAN DRIVE IN
THE STATE WITHOUT INSURANCE
WHY CAN A DOUBLE CROWN PROPERTY
NUCLEAR PLANTS ON INSURANCE
AND WHY DO YOU SEE NOW PUTTING
PASTORS COPY FOR ROOFTOP PANELS
OBVIOUSLY CONTROL ENERGY CRISIS
IS MORE SOLAR ON ROOFTOPS
DO YOU SEEN THAT ONE THE TACTIC
THREE HUNDRED KILLED OF
METERING YEAH WHAT ABOUT ALL
WE CANNOT PROCEED TO WHAT THE
ABA OPERATE WITHOUT DEALING
WITH ROOFTOP SOLAR -- DEATHWISH
THE COMING FROM THE TV YOU
SEE THANK YOU NEXT
BAKER THANK YOU I ONE
FORTY EIGHT PRECOR HAVE
HI BROWN CAME FROM THE
POLITICAL OPTIONS NETWORK
AND WE VIGOROUSLY OPPOSE THIS
PLAN NOBODY KNEW SOME INSTANT
LEGISLATORS MUST HONOR TO
LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENT
TO CLOSE DIABLO CANYON THAT
WAS AGREED UPON BY KETENE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS AND UNIONS
APPROVED BY THE CPUC VOTED
ON BY THE LEGISLATURE AND SIGNED
INTO LAW IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN
ISSUE WE BELIEVE ANY OF THE
ASSURANCES BEING GIVEN NOW
FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE
TOTALLY REMAKING ON THOSE
LEGALLY ENACTED AGREEMENTS
WE ARE ESSENTIALLY RISKY
MONUMENTAL DISASTER IN RETURN
FOR MANDATING ELECTRICAL
VEHICLES AND FOR REFUSING TO
CONSERVE ENERGY AND TO BOOST
TRANSITIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY
TO BE RAILROADED INTO VOTING
FOR UNCONSTITUTIONAL CRAFTSMAN
IT EXAMINES LEGISLATION
THAT WOULD COMPLETELY REVERSED
CALIFORNIA'S CLEAN ENERGY
POLICIES AND PROGRESS THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NEXT SPEAKER
THANK YOU ON ONE MAY BE REQUIRED
THANK YOU I'M BILL ALLEY --
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR
FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING
GROUP THAT WE SIGNED ON WITH
A NUMBER OF GROUPS TO OPPOSE
THE EXTENSION FIRST WE ALIGN
OUR COMMENTS WITH RALPH
CABANA WITHIN OUR DC ABOUT
ADEQUATE TO SHOWING UP TO DEMAND
AND -- SEND TO MEET
THAT DEMAND OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS WE DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN
ADEQUATELY SHOWN HERE IN THIS
IS NOT A CHOICE BETWEEN FOSSIL
FUELS AND NUCLEAR MORE CHOICE
OF HOW FAST CAN WE GET OUR
RENEWABLES ONLINE EVERY PLACE AT
ALL SEKALI WITH WE ALIGN
WITH -- KINDLE FINO DEFENDERS OF
WILDLIFE WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AT
ALL WHY THE CPUC WOULD BE PUT
IN CHARGE OF LAND USE DOWN THE
ROAD AND JUST ASKED TO CONSULT
WITH OTHER STATE AGENCIES LIKE
THE COASTAL COMMISSION'S IN
THE STATE WATER BOARD THAT
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL WE
DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE
HOPEFULLY THAT IT DELETED AND
IT'S ENTIRELY ENTIRELY FROM THIS
IS THAT PROPOSED LEGISLATION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I CAN
EXPECT HER THANK YOU I
WON EIGHTY EIGHT OR HER
THE ULCER ARE YOU LOOKING
ARE CRITICAL IN THE PARTY
TRANSACTION WITH A GREAT DEAL WE
HOSTED STATE THE REASON IS
THAT THE GOVERNOR NEWSOM IN
ONLY BECAUSE THEY SELL COMPETING
WORK PRESIDENT WHAT HE THIRTY
THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY THAT'S
REALLY WHAT THAT'S ABOUT PLEASE
ALREADY SEEN CALIFORNIA SHUT IT
DOWN DOUBLE CHARGE WHAT VEHICLE
BILLION TO GO CRYSTALLIZATION OF
CALIFORNIA SO THAT WE DON'T
WANT PARTY LEADER ALSO FUEL OR
NUCLEAR THERE ARE C. AND
SIXTEEN C. HAVE BEEN CAPTURED BY
THE CORPORATION DECAPOLIS IN
ON THEIR AGENDA IS TO GET MORE
PROFIT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT
WITH REPUBLICANS -- G. WORKER
CONTROL TO YOUR CONTROLLED
AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY
TRANSFORM OUR GOVERNMENT
WHICH IS BEING CORRUPTED BY
THESE CORPORATIONS OF THIS
-- CONSUMER WE SHOULD REMEMBER
GOING ON ELEVEN YEARS AFTER
A WARNING TO PEOPLE WHICH IS OUT
OF THE NEWS THERE'S SOMETHING
ABOUT CALDERON HE STILL CANNOT
REALLY STOP THE RELEASE OF
A MILLION AND THREE QUARTERS
THANK YOU THANKS FOR NEXT BIGGER
PLACE THANK YOU I'M THIRTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
YES MY NAME IS DR JEAN NELSON
I'M THE LEGAL ASSISTANT
FOR CALIFORNIANS FOR GREEN
NUCLEAR POWER GROUP OF
ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND SCIENTISTS
WHO SUPPORT THE EXTENSION --
AND I'M TALKING A BIT ABOUT
COST BUT BASED ON THE DRAFT
FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
IT WORKS OUT TO A WHOPPING TWO
POINT FIVE TO SIX CENTS PER
KILOWATT HOUR -- IT'S REALLY AND
IT'S LESS THAN WHAT IT COSTS
WHEN REPAIR START TO PAY FOR
CONSTRUCTION COSTS AT THE UPPER
CANYON THE PLANTS ALREADY BEEN
UPGRADED TO RUN TO TWENTY FORTY
FIVE FIVE P. JEANNIE IT WAS
FORCED BY THE STATE TO STOP THE
RE LICENSING ACTIVITY IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN SO AND I'M JUST THE PINK
OF ONE FINAL POINT DOT A
NEWSPAPER ARTICLE TURNS OUT WIND
AND SOLAR I HAVE A SECRET FRIEND
THAT'S NATURAL GAS THAT WAS
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST AUGUST
EIGHTH AUGUST ELEVENTH TWENTY
SIXTEEN ALSO ANY PROPOSAL
TO PUT MORE SOLAR MORE WHEN
FACED A PHYSICAL PROBLEM THAT
IS THE SUN DOESN'T ALWAYS SHINE
AND THE WIND DOESN'T ALWAYS
BLOW HARD WE'RE RIGHT
NEXT TO TAKE HER PLACE THANK
YOU RYAN ONE NINETY ONE OR HAVE
YOUR CREWS TO ASSIST ANIMAL
ENERGY AND CAN ENHANCE MOBILITY
CORPORATION CALIFORNIA DOES
NOT NEED TO INVEST ONE POINT
FIVE BILLION DOLLARS TO EXTEND
THE LIFE OF THE OF THE CANYON
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT THE L.
BLUE CANYON IS THE NAME PLATE
CAPACITY TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND
FIFTY SIX MEGAWATT BATTERY AND
SOLAR TECHNOLOGY THAT SHOULD
BE IN MASS THIRTY FIVE POINT
TWENTY FOUR CAN PROVIDE PIXAR
THE BATTERY STORAGE AND SOLAR
POWER TO CHARGE DAILY FOR JUST
TWO POINT FIVE BILLION DOLLARS
THE BATTERY STORAGE CAN CAUSE
ONE POINT FIVE BILLION OF VASTLY
BETTER USE THAN WASTING IT
ON A FEW YEARS OF ADDITIONAL
OPERATIONS AT ALL THE RISK
THAT THE COMPANY WOULD BE ABLE
CANYON THE BILL THE BATTERY
INFO CAPACITY CAN BE STUDIED
IN CALIFORNIA BAKERY TWENTY
THREE BILLION DOLLARS IN
BATTERY PUT THE LOWER RIVER
YEAR THAT WILL SUBSTANTIALLY AT
THE CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS JUST
START OUR PANTRIES WILL ENABLE
CALIFORNIA TO MEET ITS TWENTY
FIFTH DECARBONISATION TARGETS
BEFORE TWENTY THREE TWO AT
THE END RANGING PURCHASE PRICE
INSURANCE FOR TRANSPORTATION
INCLUDING LONG HAUL CLASS EIGHT
TRUCKING AND EVEN AVIATION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE NEXT
SPEAKER PLEASE THANK YOU RIGHT
NINETY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI MY NAME THROUGHOUT THE
CALL I LIVE IN FAIRFAX AND
I WANT TO SAY THIS PROPOSAL
IS AN UNETHICAL AND RUSHED
WINDFALL FOR PG&E LEAKING
-- ASSET PLEASE VIEW THE
HISTORICAL SITE ASSESSMENT
DOCUMENT OF PERFECTION NOT
THE PROPOSAL OVER EIGHT YEARS OF
RESEARCH IN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
THAT PROVED TO BE APPROVED
WE DO NOT NEED THE OB LOW FOR
RELIABILITY FOR FOR OUR CLEAN
ENERGY GOALS WE DO NOT NEED
IT TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON
AND IF IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT
KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON THEN WE
NEED TO PLEASE DEMAND THAT PG&E
GIVEN A TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM THAT WILL PREVENT
OUTAGES AND WILDFIRES I WANT
TO THANK RAFA BANA MARC TONEY
OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION THE
MAN WHO TALKED ABOUT CURRENT
CONDITIONS AT THE CRISTINA AND
ALSO THE WOMAN WHO BROUGHT UP
THAT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES
ALSO AFFECT THE AWFUL CANYON
THANKS OUR EMOTIONAL SPEAKER
PLEASE RUSH THANK YOU ARE
IN ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE HAD
THANK YOU MARSHALLING BEACH
VOLUNTEER MEMBER OF MANY CLIMATE
GROUPS FOR CONTRACTORS ALL
CLIMATE AND GRANDDAD NUCLEAR
ENERGY HAS RISKS TO ALL HUMAN
ACTIVITIES BUT SEVEN DECADES OF
GLOBAL OPERATIONS HAVE ONLY SEEN
THREE NUCLEAR ACCIDENT THE TOTAL
DEATHS ATTRIBUTED HAVE BEEN
LESS THAN TEN THOUSAND ACCORDING
TO THE UNITED NATIONS WE MUST
COMPARE THAT TO THE UNPARALLELED
FIFTY YOU WOULDN'T COMPARE THAT
UNPARALLELED SAFETY RECORD TO
THE KNOWN IMPACTS FROM THOUSANDS
OF HOSTILE ACCIDENT AND FOSSEL
CALLED THEIR POLLUTION HARBOR
IN TWENTY NINETEEN CONCLUDED
THESE COSTS EIGHT POINT SEVEN
MILLION PREMATURE DEATHS
ANNUALLY ANNUALLY PLEASE
PER SERVICE CRITICAL NEAR ZERO
EMISSIONS RESOURCE INSTEAD OF
CONTINUING TO DEFER TO WHAT
I BELIEVE IS A SUBSTANTIATED
FIGURE SEVEN OVERHYPED WILL
BE FAST WHAT THE OTHER IS
UNCONCERNED ABOUT ELECTRICITY
COSTS AND RELIABILITY ONE
OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES
RELIABILITY AFFORDABILITY
AND REQUIRE EQUITY IS SAMUEL
INSULL NINETEEN TWENTY YOUR
UTILITY MONOPOLY BUSINESS MODEL
AND HE'S PROFIT ON CAPITEC'S
TAGLICH CYBER BULLIES
THANK YOU THANK YOU RIGHT
ONE NINETY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
MYLAN RECENTLY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA CAN YOU HEAR ME
YES WE CAN HELLO HELLO
MY NAME FILLED OR E. S.
O. M. -- I AM A
CALIFORNIA NATIVE CURRENTLY
LIVING IN LOS ANGELES WHERE IF
SOMETHING GOES TERRIBLY WRONG
DIABLO OF RADIOACTIVE WILL
REACH MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE WITHIN ABOUT FIVE
HOURS I WORKED IN MEXICO
FOR SEVERAL YEARS THE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER FIGHTING A DUMP
TRUCK PLATOONING CONTAMINATED
NUCLEAR WEAPONS WEDDING HELD
IN THE E. P. A. M. COUNTLESS
SCIENTISTS SURE THAT THE
PLANT THAT NO KRYPTONIAN
WOULD REACH THE ACCEPTABLE
ENVIRONMENT FOR MINIMUM OF TEN
THOUSAND YEARS FAILED NINE
THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY
FIVE YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE
YOUR POWER IS SAFE UNTIL IT'S
NOT TRUE SO IT WASN'T
TRUE BECAUSE SHE MOVED
-- JUDE FROM OUTRAGE
THANK YOU WHAT THE COMMITTEES
THANK YOU THANK YOU LINE
TWENTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
MY NAME IS ALEA QUAN ARMCHAIR
EASIER TO NEVADA MY SONS
ATTENDING CAL POLY SAN LUIS
OBISPO WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT
LITTLE SIGNAL TO COMPUTATIONAL
POWER ADAPTER SMALL BUYERS
IT IS ALWAYS OUR PLANTS
IF YOU COULD HAVE UNRELIABLE
POWER FROM WIND AND SOLAR AFTER
BY NATURAL GAS SOLD THE DIESEL
GENERATORS SPINE WITHOUT
WHAT YOU NEED BECAUSE POWER
POINT FOR AT LEAST TWENTY YEARS
IF NOT LONGER ALSO LEGISLATURE
FIRST STREET DEMAND RESPONSE
HE COULD NOT BE EASY WILL BRING
BOTH CAN HAVE POWER IN THE LATE
AFTERNOON THANK YOU THANK YOU
NEXT SPEAKER THANK YOU I WON
FIFTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI THIS IS BRAD GARRETT IN
GALENA CALIFORNIA I'M PART OF
THE CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR
COMMUNITY ENERGY WHICH STRONGLY
OPPOSES THE EXPANSION OR OF
-- DOUBLE CANYON BUT I AM
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF THE FOOD
NUCLEAR PLANT UNDERMINE GRID
RELIABILITY THAT ACTUALLY
INCREASES THE NEED FOR INSTANTLY
DEPLOYABLE RESOURCES INTO THE
NUCLEAR PLANT SUDDENLY TALE
FROM EXPECTEDLY A DATE CERTAIN
TO CLOSE THE PLANT HAS ALREADY
BEEN NEGOTIATED AND IT SHOULD
BE HONORED WE ALL KNOW THAT PG&E
IS A FELON BUT CANNOT MAINTAIN
FACE CONDITIONS IN A FOREST
LET ALONE MAINTAINING FIXED
CONDITIONS IN A NUCLEAR POWER
PLANT SITTING ON FOR EARTHQUAKE
FALL THE PROPOSAL AS IT
CURRENTLY STANDS IS OUTRAGEOUS
DO NOT OVERRIDE THE COASTAL
COMMISSION DO NOT OVERRIDE
REQUEST SUBSIDIES SHOULD BE
DIRECTED TO MORE RENEWABLES AND
BATTERIES NOT TO A POTENTIALLY
DEADLY NUCLEAR PLANT OPERATED
BY A CRIMINAL UTILITIES WITH
AN ABOMINABLE SAFETY RECORD
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
NEXT PICKER THANK YOU I
INTO A ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
ZERO ONE
ONE ONE NINETY THREE
PLEASE GO AHEAD
CAN YOU TRICK VOLUNTEER FOR THIS
EVENT HER COUNTY CRIME HARLEM
WHERE A HUNDRED THIRTY MILES
FROM THE PLANT WERE CONFIRMED
BY THE ANALYSIS BY ENERGY SHE
TURNED AND ESPECIALLY TALK
WITH ROOM FOR THREE FIFTY BAY
AREA IN STRONGLY OPPOSING AN
EXTENSION OF WE CAN MAKE A
BIGGER PUSH FOR ALTERNATIVES
ESPECIALLY BATTERIES ALSO NOT
MENTIONED -- THE POTENTIAL
FOR CONSERVATION BY INDUSTRIAL
USERS AND THERE IS A LONG
STRETCH OF POTENTIAL WITH DEMAND
RESPONSE NOBODY HAS ALSO
MENTIONED THE RISK OF TERRORISM
MORE ACTIVE FOR ITS REAL
VIOLENCE IN OUR SOCIETY ISRAEL
ORGANIZED DOMESTIC TERRORISM
IS ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED BY
LEADERS IN THE MEDIA THE
MAGNITUDE OF THIS KIND OF RISK
IS IN THE NEWS DALY RELATED
THE BARBARY KILL THE PLANT IN
UKRAINE IN INTERNET SAVVY KERR
PLUS THANK YOU RYAN TOOL FOR
PLEASE GO AHEAD YOU
OTHER OFTEN LOOK AT IT I AGREE
IN MATERIALS ENGINEERING FROM
CAL POLY I'VE WORKED AT THE
PLANT FOR NINETEEN YEARS AND
I'VE RUN THE NONPROFIT MOTHERS
FOR NUCLEAR PREDICT HERE'S
MANY MEMBERS I DON'T AND BIGGER
DECISION AT THE AGE OF ANSWERS
THE QUESTIONS ARE COMPLICATED
YEAH OF THE MORTGAGE AND
THAT'S PROCESS SIMILAR TO WHAT
HAPPENED IN TWENTY SIXTEEN
WITH THE ORIGINAL DECISION IT'S
NOT IDEAL I CAN ADDRESS YOUR
CONCERNS IN A MINUTE BUT I WANT
TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP ASKING
QUESTIONS AND ALSO ASSURE YOU
THAT OVER MY CAREER AS
A REACTOR OPERATOR CONTRIBUTOR
WRITER AMPLE STARTING MOTHER'S
PRETTY CLEAR IN TWENTY SIXTEEN
I WILL PROBABLY AND ALL THE
QUESTIONS AND I STRONGLY
BELIEVE THAT NUCLEAR SUPPORT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL AND HUMANITARIAN
ISSUES THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM
BOTH THOSE IN SUPPORT OF AND
AGAINST THE PROPOSAL AND THAT
CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE PLANT
IS IN THE INTEREST OF ABSOLUTELY
EVERYONE INVOLVED INCLUDING
OUR PLANET EARTH THANK YOU
THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER THANK
YOU TO THIRTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI MY NAME IS EACH OF THE CLEAR
I'M A NUCLEAR SAFETY SPECIALIST
-- COMMITTEE MAY KEEP HEARING
FROM COMING FROM THE OPPOSING
THE EXTENT OF OPINION THAT
WE SHOULD HONOR THE JOINT
PROPOSAL THAT WE SHOULD IGNORE
THE CURRENT EVIDENCE YOU CAN
DISREGARD THE RECOMMENDATION
COMING FROM TOP EXPERTS
AROUND THE COUNTRY INCLUDING
EXPERTS IN GREAT OPERATION
AP AND CLEAN ENERGY I DO NOT
BLAME ANYBODY ON THE SENATE
FOR SIGNING ON TO THE REGIONAL
PROPOSAL INFORMATION YOU'RE
BEING GIVEN YEARS AGO EVEN AT
THAT INFORMATION MAY HAVE BEEN
OVERLY OPTIMISTIC BUT YOU ALL
WELL KNOW WELL IT IS IMPORTANT
ASPECT OF A TRUE LEADER WILLING
TO CHANGE YOUR MIND IN THE
FACE OF NEW INVALID INFORMATION
FOR THIS REASON I ASK THAT YOU
LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS ON THIS
CALL THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL
PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE THE
INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY AND
COUNTLESS OTHER EXPERTS AROUND
THE WORLD AND KEEP DIABLO CANYON
OPEN HIGH COURT YOU LEAVE WITHIN
THIRTY SECONDS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT SPEAKER I THINK YOU'RE
GOING TO R. NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI RON MARTIN CALLING FROM
FRESNO CHICAGO SPEAKING
AGAINST KEEPING THE ANIMALS
CANYON OPERATING MONEY'S
ALREADY BEEN SPENT ON THE
DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS IN
THE MONEY WOULD HAVE TO BE
SPENT TO THE EXTENT THAT
PROCESS IT MIGHT BE DISCOVERED
THAT THE FRAGILE PLANKINTON
SUITABLE FOR EXTENSION TWO
INSTEAD OF WASTING THAT MONEY
TO SPEND MONEY ON RENEWABLE
ENERGY STABLE SORTS INCLUDING
BATTERIES AND ROOFTOP SOLAR
TO GENERATE THE ELECTRICITY
USED TO CLEAR ENERGY THE HUGE
EXPENSIVE DANGEROUS PRODUCT
CHECK IT USUALLY INVOLVES COST
OVERRUNS SO LET'S NOT DO IT
AND IT'S GOING INCLUDED ON IT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT BAKER
THANK YOU I ENJOYED REQUIRED
AFTERNOON THIS IS THE PROVIDER
DONNER TEETH LIKE FIND THE SLOPE
COUNTY SUPERVISOR FOR DISTRICT
THREE HOME OF DIABLO CANYON
RESHAPE VERY MUCH THE PANEL'S
HEARING TODAY AND PARTICULARLY
CENTER LATER CLARIFYING
QUESTIONS I CRITICAL POINT AND
OUR BOARD CHAIRED BRUCE GIPSON
LOOKING OUT FOR THE COUNTY
AND THE COUNTY WITH THREE OF
THE STATE'S MAJOR TRANSMISSION
LINE FEEDING THE STATE ENERGY
GENERATION IS OUR GIG HERE
IN SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY
AND WE SUPPORT ALL FORMS OF
CLEAN ENERGY ON JANUARY TWENTY
SECOND OUR BOARD -- APPROVED A
RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING OFFSHORE
WIND POWER GENERATION AND WE
ARE CONTINUALLY WORKING TOWARDS
THAT ON MARCH EIGHTEENTH
THREE TWENTY TWENTY WE ARE
ABOARD THE LETTER TO GOVERNOR
NEWSOM ASKING FOR HIS SECURING
REQUIRED STATE A VOTE TO KEEP
THE OLD LOW GOING THIS IS THE
KIND OF ACTION THAT WE HAVE
BEEN DOING ON THE FLOOR AND
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING OUT FOR
THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS
AND THAT IS RELIABLE ENERGY
AFFORDABLE ENERGY AND CARBON
FREE ENERGY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND I MEAN THAT KERR
PLEASE THANK YOU THANK YOU ARE
GOING TO FIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
IS THAT REALLY DID SHOWN THE
PRESIDENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE
ASSOCIATION CENTRAL COAST
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE THAT WE ARE
EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION
THE OUTLOOK CANYON STRANDED
ASSET IS CONTRIBUTING ONE
FOURTH TO ONE THIRD HE GOT A
EXIT FEES PEOPLE WHO ARE
THE ARE HAVING TO
UNDERLYING THE SUCCESS OF THE
PCA SO MANY BELIEVE THAT IS
ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONE OF
THE APPROACHES FOR UNDERMINING
THE FUTURE OF THE SUCCESS OF
THE CCA WE HAVE SUFFICIENT
ENERGY COMING INTO THE GRID IT
IS BEING EXPORTED DURING THE
MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHEN THE
WHEN THE AUGUST TWENTY
TWENTY SHUTDOWNS OCCURRED WITH
EXPORTING ENERGY INSTEAD OF
KEEPING THE ENERGY TO KEEP OUR
-- STATES ONLINE --
ONE TIMES THE AMOUNT
OF RENEWABLE ENERGY ENTERING
THE GRANT EVERY YEAR
-- COMPARED TO DIABOLOS
CANYONS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT TIME COME OUT OF
SIGHT OUT THANK YOU BRING
TO EIGHTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO MY NAME IS ERIC MEYER
AND A CITY COUNCILLOR AND
EFFECTIVE DIRECTOR GENERATION
RECORD GRASSROOTS FROM NUCLEAR
NONPROFIT NUCLEAR ENERGY
BUT WHEN CLIMATE SCIENTISTS
FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD ARGUED
THAT CAN'T BE HARMONIZED BACKING
UP WITHOUT IT I LOOK AT MY MAP
AND COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY FOUND
THAT NUCLEAR PLANT ACTUALLY
SAVED TWO MILLION LIVES BY
PREVENTING AIR POLLUTION AND
LISTEN AND WHAT MIT AND STANFORD
SHOWED COMMITTEE GAVEL DOWN TO
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE WILL RESULT
IN FORTY MILLION METRIC TONS
OF ADDITIONAL CO TWO AND COST
RATEPAYERS AN EXTRA BILLION
DOLLARS PER YEAR ON THEIR POWER
BILLS WHAT CAREER ANTI NUCLEAR
ACTIVISTS LIKE RALPH CAVANAGH
TRAFFIC ARE YOU COLD DON'T WHICH
WHY WILL WORLD AND ACTUALLY TRY
THE KABBALAH AND RBC CLIMATE
STRATEGY MARC THE CULTURE THEN
YOU HAPPY THE BILL
TO THAT GAP PLANS TO REPLACE
IT AND CRANK UP THE OUTPUT OF A
THIRD RIGHT IN THE HEART CLEATS
IT LITERALLY CREATED OR WORSENED
THREE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES ALSO RESULTED IN A
MASSIVE HIKE TRICKY BECAUSE THEY
HAVE TO PAY FOR THE REPLACEMENT
THANK HAVE THE MOST EXPENSIVE
WHAT FIFTIES HOW MUCH MORE
CAN YOU TAKE THANK YOU THANK
YOU FIFTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
YES YOU CAN HUESO THIS IS DAN
RICHARD -- WITH THE PUBLICLY
CALIFORNIA ORGANIZATION WE
ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL TO EXTEND
THE LIFE OF DIABLO CANYON I
THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS NOT
A QUESTION OF DIABLO VERSUS
RENEWABLES AND STORAGE THIS IS
DIABLO CANYON LOS FALL OVER
THOSE CARBON FREE RESOURCES I
DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT
THAT WAS MADE TODAY BY KAREN
DOUGLAS AND ONOMAH SANTOS THAT
THIS IS REALLY ABOUT DISPLACING
NATURAL GAS WHICH DOES AS WAS
JUST POINTED OUT REDUCE FORTY
MILLION METRIC TONS MORE OF
CARBON DIOXIDE OVER THE NEXT
TEN YEARS WE CAN AVOID THAT
AND WE CAN SAVE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS SO WE URGE YOU TO
GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND WE
APPLAUD THE ADMINISTRATION
FOR ITS LEADERSHIP THANK YOU
SIR THANK YOU NEXT BIGGER
PLEASE THANK YOU RYAN TO
TWENTY TO PLEASE GO AHEAD
BOB -- -- -- BURKE
RIGHT HERE AND -- --
-- EIGHT THREE POWER LINES
FROM THE PROPOSAL TO
EXPAND THE DIABLO CANYON
IT'S REALLY A COMPLETE WASTE
OF RATEPAYER MONEY CYCLE
EXAGGERATES HIS PROJECTION
OF OUR NEEDS AND IT FEELS TO
ACKNOWLEDGE ITS OWN SURPRISED
THAT THE AMAZINGLY RAPID
INCREASE OF SOLAR AND BATTERY
STORAGE OVER THE PAST YEAR
EVEN DURING THE PANDEMIC
SECONDLY GREAT PEERS LIKE
TOUGH ORGANIZED IN THE MENU
CCA'S THAT SHOULD LEAD
YOU THROUGH WHAT THE PAY
FOR DIABLO'S UNWANTED GENERATION
THROUGH THE PGA THIS NOT ONLY
ADDS TO OUR CALL OF THE PCI
A LIMIT CCA ABILITY TO MAXIMIZE
PROCUREMENT OF THE NOW MUCH
MUCH CHEAPER SOLAR BATTERY
STORAGE EXTENDING DYEABLE
TENURE WOULD BE SHOULD BE
OUR LAST OPTION TO ENSURE
ENERGY RELIABILITY OF THE
YEARS THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
BAKER PLEASE THANK YOU RIGHT
ONE FIFTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
ONE ONE FIVE
BY ONE SEVENTY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD
HELLO MY
THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES A
MASSIVE CYCLIC PERCEPTIONS
AND CONCERNS DO NOT
EXTEND THE TO APPLE PLANT
-- BRUTAL REACTOR THAT MAY
FAIL EARLIER THAN EXPECTED THE
APPLE CANYON WOULD NOT PREVENT
OUTAGES THE LEADING CAUSES
OF POWER OUTAGES ACROSS THIS
TRANSMISSION LINES AND SHUT
OFF THE POWER TO PREVENT FAULTY
WIRES FROM STARTING WILDFIRES
CATHOLIC CANYON HAS TO BE FIXED
TO ADDRESS THOSE FROM NAMI REST
BETTER INVESTMENT TO ACCELERATE
DEMAND RESPONSE STRATEGIES
POSSIBLY BY INCENTIVES THE MORE
HIGH LEVEL RADIOACTIVE WASTE
IS STORED IN THE PLAN SPENT
FUEL POOLS THE MORE DANGEROUS
IT BECOMES THE ENVIRONMENT IN
THE CASE OF A TERRORIST ATTACK
THE NEW MAYBE A WAR
GOING ON PUBLIC CAN SURELY AND
AND THE POTENTIAL THE
PACKAGE TO ATTRACT THE NEXT
SPEAKER ALL UNITE THANK YOU I
WON EIGHTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
BY ONE EIGHT NINE GOOD MORNING
GOOD AFTERNOON CAN YOU HEAR ME
YES PUBLIC WATCHDOGS
NINE ABOUT THE YARDS DOWN IN
SAN DIEGO AND LIKE TO BRING
THE SENATE RACES INTENTION THAT
VERY FEW PEOPLE DOWN HERE
IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE
STATE OR THAT -- EVEN AWARE
THAT THEY MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THESE ADDITIONAL CHARGES
AMATEUR RIDES OVER THE EMAIL
WITH HIGHER STATE OF RATE
PAYERS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
SAFETY AND PG&E I MEAN WE
REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK
AT WHAT WE TOOK THEIR WORD
FOR IT SAN BRUNO AND ALSO
THE PARADISE FIRES THEY'RE
CONVICTED FELONS THEY NEED TO
BE LOOKED UPON WITHIN THIS
PROPOSAL AND SUCH AND AFTER ALL
THEY HAVE EIGHTY FIVE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE DIED AT THEIR HANDS
BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
SAFETY I DON'T THINK WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE G. IN MI AND
ON DOWN HERE IN SAN DIEGO WITH
THE SITUATION WITHIN FAMILY
-- FREE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
RADIATIONS THANK YOU I'M TWO
THIRTY FOUR CLEAR FOR HER
HELLO MY NAME IS THEIR
THIRTIES LINES AGO EITHER LOCAL
MILLENNIUM AND SECOND GENERATION
AMERICAN IT WILL BE ABLE CANYON
WOULD BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE CALIFORNIA'S
BILL TO PROVIDE RELIABLE
CLEAN AFFORDABLE ENERGY TWENTY
TWENTY ONE CALIFORNIA'S OTHER
ELECTRICITY PRICES INCREASED
BY NEARLY TWELVE PERCENT
PRESIDENT OBAMA FIFTY SIX MORE
FOR ELECTRICITY THAN THE REST
OF THE COUNTRY AS OF MARCH THIS
YEAR THREE POINT SIX MILLION
RESIDENTS STRUGGLE TO PAY THEIR
BILLS TOTALING OVER ONE BILLION
FOR ENERGY -- THIRTY POLICY
THAT PLACING THE BURDEN ON OUR
MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS
BETWEEN FORTY NINE R. P. TO
MANAGING A HARNESS FOR OUR FOR
OUR PEOPLE AND IF WE CALLED
HIM A CANYON THE FOR THE WORST
HARPER CREATED THAT THERE
WOULD BE SHORTFALL OF EIGHTEEN
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS WHEN NUCLEAR
PLANTS CLOSE THEIR PLACE OF
FOSSIL FUELS AND INDUSTRY
NUCLEAR PLANT WAS SHUT DOWN
EMISSIONS INCREASED BY THIRTY
SEVEN MILLION METRIC TONS WHY
ARE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE NATURAL GAS AND IT STILL
GLISTEN WITH OPERATIONS OF THE
EXPANDED CABLE CANYON AS CLOSE
AS WE DEBATE THE HYPOTHETICALS
AND UNCERTAINTIES OF ONE OF
THE MOST ANY PLANTS IN THE US
EITHER OPERATING NOW POLLUTING
THE AIR AND INCREASING EMISSIONS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ASENSIO
CARBON THANK YOU I'M TWO
THIRTY EIGHT PEOPLE HAD
MY NAME IS BRANDON EVAN AND I
AM A THIRTY YEAR OLD RESIDING
IN BERKELEY CALIFORNIA I URGE
SENATORS TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION
THAT WOULD CREATE CONDITIONS
FOR EXPENSE OF DIABLO CANYON
CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST SOURCE OF
CLEAN AND RELIABLE ELECTRICITY
ACCORDING TO THE INTERNATIONAL
PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE IN
TWENTY NINETEEN REPORT NUCLEAR
ENERGY HAS THE SECOND LOWEST
LIFECYCLE CARBON DIOXIDE
EMISSIONS PER KILOWATT HOUR ANY
ELECTRICAL GENERATING SOURCE A
QUICK POINT ON THE DIABLO CANYON
OLD ARGUMENT FROM THE ENERGY
CAN UNDERSUPPLY LIFE THERE ARE
NINETY TWO REACTORS OPERATING
TODAY HE COOPER A TWENTY YEAR
SESSION ALLOWING IT TO OPERATE
UP TO SIXTY YEARS AND FIFTEEN OF
THOSE BUYING TRADITIONAL TWENTY
YEARS OPERATING FOR EIGHTY
YEARS THE OTHER CANDIDATES
THIRTY NINE YEARS OLD IT'LL
BE ON THE CLIENT MCCARTY
THE OPTION IN HIS EQUIVALENT
DESCRIBING A CAR AFTER FIFTY
THOUSAND MILES ACCORDING
TO THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION AVERAGE ELECTRICITY
CONSUMPTION CALIFORNIA IS
EXPECTED TO INCREASE BY TEN
PERCENT BETWEEN TWENTY TWENTY
TO TWENTY THIRTY AT THE SAME
TIME CALIFORNIA EIGHT HUNDRED
MEGAWATTS WHAT I NEED A
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE EXPECTED
SHORTFALL COMPANY CULTURE THE
OPPORTUNITY EITHER COUNCIL
THANK YOU I'M TWO THIRTY
SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
NINE TWO THREE SIX
HELLO MY NAME LEAVE A MESSAGE
GO ABOUT IT THE SENTENCE I'M
AN IMMIGRANT AND I STRONGLY
ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE
EXPANSION OF THE OUTLOOK CANYON
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HEAR
PEOPLE BE KOREAN ABOUT WANT
ONE HI WHAT WHAT FOUR BILLION
DOLLAR FEE WHEN IT'S ABOUT
OUR FUTURE WENT ABOUT CLIMATE
CHANGE WHEN OUR STATE SPENDS
EIGHT RE SEEING BILL YEAR THREE
BILLION DOLLARS GIVE IT TO THE
HIGH YES INCOME RESIDENTS
THOSE WHO ALREADY HAVE HOMES
AND HAVE SOLAR PANELS IT'S NOT
WE'RE NOT TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT NO NEED
TO BE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING
THE OUTLOOK CANYON POINT WITH
ALL THE NATURAL GAS POWER
PLANTS IN THE COURSE OF OUR
STATE POISONING THE AIR QUALITY
CHILDREN MAKE GIVEN THE ORDER
THE OLD WE DON'T SPEAK A LOT
YEAH LOOK AT IT KIND OF MARKS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
SPEAKER PLEASE THANK YOU I'M
TWO THIRTY NINE PEOPLE HAVE
THANK YOU MAILING MAKE THE
SOUTHWEST REGIONAL COUNCIL OF
CARPENTERS WE'RE ALL SUPPORT
AT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL TO
KEEP IT CAN YOU KNOW OPEN TO
KEEP IT OPEN WHAT THE PLIGHT
BONTA WELL I'LL SURE WOMEN
AND OTHER RENEWABLE ENERGY
SOURCES ARE COMING ONLINE IT'S
SEVERAL YEARS OUT STILL AT
THE CLOSE THE APPLICATION YOU
KNOW DETRIMENTAL TO THE AREA
CALIFORNIA I LIVE IN SANTA MARIA
FIFTY MILES OF THE PLANT I HAVE
NO FEARS OF THAT PLANT THANK YOU
THANK YOU NEXT PICKER THANK
YOU I'M TO FORTY TO PLEASE GO
AHEAD CAN YOU HEAR ME YES
YES GO AHEAD THANK YOU MY
NAME IS RON JESTER I'M A RETIRED
PHYSICIAN AND GEOLOGISTS THE
LIFETIME RESERVE PRESIDENT
OF CALIFORNIA AND A MEMBER OF
THE SIERRA CLUB MANY YEARS AGO
EITHER ACTIVELY OPPOSE NUCLEAR
ENERGY HOWEVER IN THE LAST
SIX YEARS A LOT HAS CHANGED
WE'VE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL
ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE ENERGY DEMAND AND GRID
RELIABILITY IN CALIFORNIA WITH
THIS NEW KNOWLEDGE COMES NEW
RESPONSIBILITY I NEED
TO ORDER PASSED THE CITIZENS
WE NEED TO BE MAKING DECISIONS
NOW THAT HELPS THE QUALITY OF
LIFE FUTURE GENERATIONS THE
CORRECT USE SOCIAL PROVIDING
CLIMATE CHANGE BY CHANGING
POSITION FROM OPPOSITION TO
SUPPORT OF NUCLEAR ENERGY IS
NOT UNIQUE STATISTICS AS
BRITAIN THE POLLS HAVE SHOWN
MORE CALIFORNIANS NOW SUPPORT
NUCLEAR ENERGY THE OPPOSE PLEASE
KEEP NUCLEAR POWER POINT AT THE
APPLICATION THANK YOU THANK YOU
NEXT SPEAKER THANK YOU BRING
TO TWENTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
PSYCHE YES WE CAN HEAR YOU
YES GO AHEAD HI MY NAME
IS OMAR DEALS AND I'M A PERSON
OF COLOR IN RATE AARON CHANNELS
THAT ARE HOLDING DOWN THE
ADULT HAS LITTLE TO GET IN THE
WAY OF MAJOR WANTED FASTEST
FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY COULD BE
USED IF YOU'LL OTHER PROJECTS
LIKE SUPPORTERS OF MY ROOF
TRUMP TWENTY TWENTY FOUR HOURS
THIS IS --
THE REPORT THAT MIGHT HAVE
DROPPED SCHOOL TRIED LYING
CHIU FORTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD IT WAS JUST ABOUT TO THE
HELLO TWO FORTY
ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD
HI -- WITH THE FURTHER
ELECTRIFICATION OF THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSE WILL BE
AMENDED ELECTRIC STOVES DRYERS
-- AND THE BAN OF FURTHER
GASPARI PARKING DEMAND ON THE
GRID WILL INCREASE THE DANCE
READING CONNECTION TO CULTURE
AND THAT MOST PEOPLE CHARGE
THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS AND NINE
ONE SOLAR IS NOT AVAILABLE
BECAUSE WILL ABSOLUTELY AND
NOT BE IN THAT SURPLUS IT WAS
MENTIONED THAT THE BETTER DOING
THINGS BOTH SPEECH BECAUSE THEY
BELIEVE THEY CAN ONLY CHARGE
AND A DAY AND ONLY TO START
HER PROJECT THE CARD SB
CHARTS AND GRAPHS BEING UPDATED
TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCREASED
LOAD AND IF SO --
WHERE DOES THAT STAND AND DOES
IT ACTUALLY -- SIDE TO THE
GRID -- SUPPOSED TO ORDER
THE -- BECOME A LARGER
TO DO GREAT AS IT IS IT WAS AN
OVERNIGHT LARGE BASELOAD AND
WILL ONLY ADD TO THAT
AMOUNT OF POWER THANK YOU THANK
YOU NEXT SPEAKER THE HEARING
TO FORTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD
THIS IS A SOFT MAN I AM
OPPOSED TO CONTINUING THE --
LICENSURE YEAH CANYON IT AS
IMPORTANT PROBLEMS AND THAT'S
FOR RELIABILITY IS SO BIG THAT
IT BELZER WHENEVER FAILED AT
THE BOX AND US THE CARD IS
ENORMOUS PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT
FURTHERMORE AS LONG AS WE KEEP
SELLING ENERGY TO OTHER STATES
THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE
CHANGE THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO
GO TO A GRAIN AND ECONOMY SO
WE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES
AND WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT THE
OTHER CHAMPION THANK YOU THANK
YOU NEXT BAKER THANK YOU
LINE TO FIFTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
YES REQUIRED
OKAY MY NAME IS DAVIS HOMES
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE
DIABLO CANYON NUCLEAR POWER
PLANT I WANT TO RE LITIGATE THE
CASE FOR DOUBLE CANYON I DON'T
WANT TO RESPOND TO THE ARMS ARE
SCIENTISTS WHO THINK THAT THEY
KNOW MORE ABOUT CABLE CANYON
SAFETY THAN THOSE WHO ACTUALLY
WORK THERE FULL TIME I WOULD
JUST LIKE TO SENATORS VOTING
ON THIS BILL TO DO A FEW THINGS
FIRST TALK TO AT LEAST TWO
PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF THIRTY
AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEY THINK
ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER SECOND
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW
YORK STATE AFTER THE CLOSURE
OF THE INDIAN POINT NUCLEAR
POWER PLANT DID THEY REPLACE
IT WITH ELECTRICITY FROM
RENEWABLES FOR FROM FOSSIL FUELS
THIRD PLEASE MEET WITH PLANT
OPERATORS AND WORKERS AT THE
PLANT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS
PLANT CLOSURE IN ASKING THEM
ABOUT PLANT SAFETY AND ASK
THEM WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AFTER
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE IF THEY'RE
OUT OF A JOB PLEASE LISTEN
TO YOUNGER VOTERS AND THOSE
WHO WILL BE MOST AFFECTED BY
CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN CONSIDERING
HOW TO VOTE ON THIS BILL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NEXT TO COULD
YOU PLEASE OPEN THANK YOU RYAN
ONE SIXTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
RIGHT ONE EIGHT FIVE
THANK YOU CAN DATE THEY LIVE
IN THE CALIFORNIA JUST NORTH
OF DIABLO CANYON POWER PLANT
LOCAL ENGINEER AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT CONTINUED OPERATION
OF THE APPLE CANYON THIRD OF
OUR COMMUNITY I'VE HEARD FROM
QUITE A FEW CAREER ANTINUCLEAR
ACTIVIST INTERNATIONAL INTERESTS
WITHIN BENEFIT FROM THE SHUTDOWN
OF DIABLO CANYON AND ACTIVISTS
DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF
ALL CALIFORNIANS AND CERTAINLY
NOT THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS
LOCAL TO DIABLO CANYON ONLY
CONDUCTED IN JANUARY TWENTY
TWENTY TWO SO THE MAJORITY OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT CONTINUED
OPERATION OF DIABLO NEARLY
THREE QUARTERS OF FAMILY BUT
THE COUNTY RESIDENTS THREE
CALIFORNIANS WANT RELIABLE
ELECTRICITY AND REDUCE RISK THE
BLACKOUT LOW ENERGY PRICES IN
PROGRESS ON CARBON EMISSIONS
REDUCTION YEAH CAN HELP WITH
ALL OF THE THINGS ESPECIALLY
THE TIME WHEN OUR STATE IS
STILL FIFTY PERCENT NATURAL GAS
IT SEEMS LIKE A CLIMATE CRIME
TO SHUT DOWN OUR LARGEST FORCE
THE QUEEN WHAT SHOULD BE THANK
YOU CAN EXPECT YOUR POLICE
STATION YEAH THANK YOU I'M TO
FORTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD YES
CAN YOU HEAR ME YES WE CAN YES
PLEASE GO AHEAD I WANT TO LIVE
SPEAK OUT IN SUPPORT OF THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL TO KEEP
DIABLO CANYON OPEN I ALSO WANT
TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT BEEN
MENTIONED BY BY ADVOCATES OF
COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATORS
THAT THE POWER THEY ARE WE D.
E. C. I. A. CHARGE IT UP IT
CAN BE A CREDIT CARD CAPITA
SPENDING ON THE WHOLESALE
PRICE POWER IT IS IT'S ALL IF
THE OLDER PARTS OF OUR GOALS
OPPOSITE GOING UP ACTUALLY
HE A CUTS YOU MUST RECEIVE A
CREDIT ON THE POLICY FROM BY THE
OBLIGATION AND THAT THE YARD
FOLLOW COMMITTEE OUTLOOK CANYON
WILL ALSO COUNT BUT BUILT CPA'S
TO BE THEIR OWN REQUIREMENTS BUT
THEY ARE CALLED AND ENERGY ON
THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS SO I THINK
THAT SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED TOO
THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A
BURDEN ON COMMUNITY CHOICE THAT
IS TO SAY THAT IT COULD BE A
BENEFIT TO THANK YOUR NEXT
SPEAKER THANK YOU I HAVE NO
FURTHER COMMENTS THANK YOU
OKAY THANK YOU SO THIS BRINGS
US TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA
AND -- I THINK WE
HAVE A CIRCULAR LIKE ME COMING
YOU WANT TO COMMENT YES THANK
YOU A BRIEF ONE AND FIRST I
WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR OF
FOR SETTING UP THIS ENTIRE
HEARING -- HE AND I
ARE THE TWO THAT SAT THROUGH
THE ENTIRE TESTIMONY AND I
THINK IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO
HEAR -- IT WAS REALLY DIVERSE
AND -- PORT THING ABOUT THE
HEARING EARLIER SET WE GOT MANY
FAX IT INTO POSITIONS ON THE
RECORD FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS
STAFF MIGHT BE PART OF A FINAL
AGREEMENT I WOULD HAVE LOVED
TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE MORE ON
THE DEREGULATION AND A LITTLE
MORE ON SOME OF THE FINANCING
BUT I THINK WHAT WE HEARD AT THE
OUTSET IS WE COULD DO WHAT WE
HAVE TO DO AS A MINIMUM TO MOVE
THIS ALONG AND THAT IS VERY
SIGNIFICANT AND WE HAD A LOT
OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WILL
GO IN THERE THIS WILL BE A
DIFFICULT DECISION BUT I THINK
WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT WHAT WE HEARD TODAY IN
THE TESTIMONY AND I JUST WANT
TO JOIN THE CHAIRED THANKING
EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED
THANK YOU AND I ALSO JUST WANT
TO THANK THE THE MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC WHO CALLED IN AND
I APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY
AND ALSO JUST THE DEGREE
TO WHICH -- PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE
THIS ISSUE IS JUST VERY
REASSURANCE THAT -- WE HAVE
-- -- WHO'VE TAKEN THE
TIME TO SHARE WITH US THEIR
EXPERIENCES AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE
SO THANK YOU EVERYONE --
SO WE ARE --
DONE TODAY AND FOR ALL THE
PEOPLE THAT -- DIDN'T GET
A CHANCE TO CALL IN THERE'S
STILL A CHANCE THAT YOU SUBMIT
YOUR SUGGESTIONS WRITINGS
OR COMMENTS TO THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY UTILITIES
AND COMMUNICATION THROUGH OUR
WEBSITE ALSO YOU CAN SEND IN
YOUR LETTERS YOUR COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US
WE WANT INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY
IN THE OFFICIAL HEARING RECORDS
THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE
YOUR PARTICIPATION SO THANKS
TO EVERYBODY'S UP THREE
PATIENTS IN COOPERATION WITH
CONCLUDED THE AGENDA THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON YOUR ENERGY TO LISA
COMMUNICATIONS IS NOW ADJOURNED