THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO
ORDER. GOOD MORNING AS WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE ONGOING
COVID 19 RISKS. THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS. TO BOTH
IN PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, THE
PARTICIPANT, TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. IT WILL BE
DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN AND I
WILL ANNOUNCE IT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 8442916.
AND THE ACCESS CODE IS 852. FOR
841. I WILL MAINTAIN DECORUM
DURING THE HEARING AS IT IS
CUSTOMARY IN ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO
HAS DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED
FROM THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE
OR HAVE THEIR CONNECTIONS MUTED.
WE ARE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS HERE IN THE OLD STREET
BUILDING. I ASK ALL MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE BE PRESIDENT ROOM
1200 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR
QUORUM AND BEGAN OR HEARING WE
HAVE 18 BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA
WITH TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR ITEMS, NUMBER 14 AND
NUMBER 18. ALSO A B 1935 WAS
PULLED FROM THE AGENDA. I DON'T
BELIEVE WE HAVE QUORUM, YET. WE
NEED ONE MORE PERSON. SO LET'S
HEAR FROM OUR FIRST AUTHOR, AND
I THINK THAT WILL BE ME AND I'LL
ASK SENATOR WIECKOWSKI TUBE.
CHAIR OF THIS, OKAY, THIS IS
ITEM NUMBER FOUR A B 16 58 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WHEN REGARDING
OIL SPILLS, RESPONSE AND
CONTINGENCY PLANS, SENATOR PETE
THE FLOOR IS YOURS. OKAY? IF YOU
DON'T HAVE A CORUM YET. OKAY?
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS PRESENT A B
16 58 ON BEHALF OF THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER KNEW IN WHICH WOULD
ADDRESS LOCAL OIL SPILL RESPONSE
PLANS IN CALIFORNIA ON OCTOBER
1ST 2021 OIL RELATED INCIDENT
RESULTING FROM AN ANCHOR DAMAGED
PIPELINE CAUSED 25,000 GALLONS
OF CRUDE OIL. TO LEAK INTO THE
COASTAL WATERS NEAR THE CITY OF
HUNTINGTON'S BEACH. DURING THE
CRISIS, IT WAS CLEAR THE STATE
AND THE COUNTY EACH HAD
CONTINGENCY RESPONSE PLANS IN
PLACE. HOWEVER SOME OF THE
CITIES AND TOWNS ALONG THE COAST
EITHER HAD OUTDATED CONTINGENCY
PLANS OR LACKED A PLAN OF THEIR
OWN. A B 16 58 WILL ENCOURAGE
LOCAL AUTHORITIES TO DEVELOP AND
OIL SPILL RESPONSE PLAN THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH BOTH STATE AND
FEDERAL OIL SPILL CONTINGENCY
PLANS WITH ASSISTANCE THROUGH AN
EXISTING FEE FUNDED GRANT
PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY THE
OFFICE OF SPILL PREVENTION AND
RESPONSE. COASTAL CITIES WILL
HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES,
INCLUDING EQUIPMENT AND HARDWARE
TO HELP THEM DEVELOP OR UPDATE
CONTINGENCY PLANS IN ORDER TO BE
PREPARED. IN CASE OF AN
EMERGENCY HAVING THESE PLANS IN
PLACE WHEN RESPONDING TO OIL
SPILLS WILL BETTER COORDINATE
EMERGENCY RESOURCES AND RESPOND
TO A SITUATION IN A MORE TIMELY
MANNER. BEING PREPARED FOR THE
WORST MEANS WE CAN BE AT OUR
BEST WHEN THE CHALLENGE ARISES.
ABC 16 58 HAS ENJOYED BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT AND HAS NO KNOWN OR
REGISTERED OPPOSITION. THERE ARE
NO WITNESSES THAT ARE LISTED SO
YOU MIGHT START WITH THOSE HERE
IN THE ROOM. LET'S CHECK TO SEE
IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE IN ROOM
1200. ANYBODY WITH THE COUP PAS?
WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR,
UH ADMINISTRATORS SEEING NONE
MODERATE. LET'S GO TO THE PHONE
LINES. THESE THIS IS A B 16 58
BY THE WIND. ARE THERE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON THE
PHONE LINE IN SUPPORT OF 16 58?
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME YOU'LL HEAR AN
INDICATION YOU'VE BEEN PLACED
INTO QUÊ IN AN 18. TH
SPECIALISTS WILL PROVIDE YOU
WITH A LINE NUMBER. WE HAVE LOW
AND QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME.
LET'S FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURES
AS ANYBODY HERE IN ROOM 1200
OPPOSITION TO BE 16 58. SEEING
NONE. MODERATOR, PLEASE OPEN THE
PHONE LINES, MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
TELEPHONICALLY ON AN OPPOSITION
OF A B 16 58. TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. PRESS ONE DÂN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. ONCE AGAIN. WE
HAVE NO LINES QUEUING UP AT THIS
TIME. LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
THE, UH THIS. WE DO NOT HAVE A
QUORUM SO WE CAN MOVE THE BILL.
I OBVIOUSLY I NOTED IT REQUIRES
THAT THE COOPER TO COORDINATE
WITH THE U. S COAST GUARD ON THE
PLANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ON
OIL SPILLS. IT SEEMS REASONABLE
BILL SENATOR BECAME A CLOSE. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
WHEN WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S GOOD. WE. A
SURVEY OF ROOM 1200 SAYS THAT WE
DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER HAD.
AUTHORS HERE. IF I WERE TO
REALLY THE CHAIR, I WOULD GIVE
EVERYBODY 60 SECONDS AND THEN
CLOSED THE HEARINGS. SEE IF WE
GET PEOPLE DOWN HERE. IF THEY
GET IF YOU GET MY DRIFT AUTHORS
IT'S NINE O'CLOCK WE'RE IN. E Q.
9 10. WE WILL PAUSE. I SECOND
THAT MOTION ANYWAY.
STILL.
RIGHT? BE HAPPY. RIGHT? WE'RE
THRILLED TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THRILLED TO BE ABLE. ITEM NUMBER
TWO. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT
WILL BE PRESENTING ON A B 661
ITEM NUMBER TWO ON YOUR AGENDA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WANT TO
START BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS LISTED ON
PAGE FIVE AND SIX OF THE
ANALYSIS, A B 661 WOULD MAKE
MUCH NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
STATE AGENCIES BY RECYCLE
CAMPAIGN. BY REQUIRING ANNUAL
TRAINING AND REVISING PRODUCT
CATEGORIES. MINIMUM CONTENT
PERCENTAGES AND UPDATES TO
RECYCLE RECYCLE ABILITY
REQUIREMENTS EVERY THREE YEARS.
THIS BILL WOULD ALSO CLARIFY
THAT THE SAP CREEK INCLUDE
SERVICE CONTRACTS WHERE THE
CONTRACTORS PURCHASING
REPORTABLE RECYCLED PRODUCTS IN
2019. THIS LEGISLATURE
UNANIMOUSLY PASSED A B 15 83 TO
FORM THE STATEWIDE COMMISSION ON
RECYCLING MARKETS AND CURBSIDE
RECYCLING TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THE
STATE CAN MEET ITS RECYCLING
GOALS. A B 661 SIMPLY ADOPTS
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE SHOULD
NOT SHY AWAY FROM USING THE
STATE'S BUYING POWER TO INCREASE
OUR USE OF RECYCLED PRODUCTS,
BOLSTER RECYCLING MARKETS AND
MOVE TOWARDS A CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. I SEE. THERE IS ONE LEAD
SUPPORT WITNESS ALEXA CHÁVEZ IN
PERCENTAGE. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GOOD MORNING. UM Y NAME'S LIKES
CHAVEZ, SPEAKING IN SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE, THE BUYING POWER OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN A
MAJOR OUTLET FOR CALIFORNIA
RECYCLING BUSINESSES. LEADING TO
MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN JOB
CREATION IN THE 30 YEARS SINCE
THE PASSAGE OF THE ORIGINAL
STATE AGENCY BY RECYCLED
CAMPAIGN, MANY OTHER STATES AND
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE
IMPLEMENTED SIMILAR
REQUIREMENTS. DESPITE THE
OVERALL SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM,
THEIR AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR
BETTER SUPPORT. TO BETTER RESORT
SUPPORT RECYCLING BUSINESSES AND
TO MAXIMIZE ENVIRONMENTAL
BENEFITS. CELEBREX MINIMUM RPC
STANDARDS ARE OUTDATED, WHICH
INHIBITS THE STATE FROM REACHING
ITS RECYCLED CONTENT GOALS.
MAYBE 661 IMPROVES THE LANDMARK
SABRA CLAW BY EXPANDING SCOPE TO
COVER NEW PRODUCTS SUCH AS
CARPET, LUMBER AND TEXTILES AND
FIXES MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT
HAVE HINDERED ITS IMPLEMENTATION
IN THE PAST. ADDITIONALLY THE
BILL GIVES STATE AGENCIES
ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO COMPLY WITH
THE 75% PROCUREMENT. REQUIREMENT
BY AUTHORIZING HILLARY CYCLE TO
ADJUST THE LIST OF IDENTIFIED
PRODUCTS IN THE MINIMUM RECYCLED
CONTENT PERCENTAGES
ADMINISTRATIVELY ON A TRADE
MILLENNIAL BASIS. THE BILL
ALLOWS THE STATE TO AVOID HAVING
OUTDATED STANDARDS, WHICH
INHIBITS THE STATE FROM REACHING
THAT IT'S RECYCLED. CONTENT
GOALS. FOR THESE REASONS. WE
URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR A B 6 61
AND THINK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT FOR AUTHORING THIS BILL
. THANK YOU ANY OTHER MEMBERS
HERE IN THE ROOM THAT LIKE TO
COME FORWARD AND OFFER SUPPORT?
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR LAURIE
CAMERA. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT FOR
INTRODUCING THIS BILL. I'M HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
MEDALS COALITION AND SMALL
BUSINESS, CALIFORNIA IN STRONG
SUPPORT THE METAL COALITION. UH
IS THE MANUFACTURER'S RECENT
USED RECYCLED PRODUCTS IN A
ALUMINUM, BRASS, IRON AND STEEL
AND THEY MAKE PARTS FOR MEDICAL
DEVICES. AEROSPACE CLEAN ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES, ELECTRIC CARS,
BIOTECH APPARATUS. EXCUSE ME,
NATIONAL DEFENSE, AGRICULTURE
AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS A
VERY IMPORTANT BILL FOR THE
SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE
MANUFACTURERS IN CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU. WE WERE DRIVING.
THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHERS
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE. WE
WILL GO TO THOSE ON THE LINE. MR
MODEATOR, DO WE HAVE MEMBERS ON
THE LINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
AND SUPPORT OF A B 661? TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT. PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE DO HAVE A LINE
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEM THEIR LINE NUMBER.
WE WILL OPEN LINE. 40 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. VICTORIA RISER ON BEHALF
OF THE NATIONAL STEWARDSHIP
ACTION COUNCIL IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE
ANOTHER LINE QUEUING UP ONE
MOMENT. WILL OPEN UP LINE 44.
SIGNED 44. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
QUITE AMBER SAID. HOW WAS
THREATENED PRICKS AND SALTING ON
BEHALF OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND
VIRAL VOTERS SUPPORT. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. THANK YOU
. THEN WE WILL NOW GO TO THOSE
IN OPPOSITION TO A B 661 AND
THERE IS ONE LEAD OPPOSITION, MR
TIM. SHE'S THERE IN PERSON. GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. TIM CHESTED WITH
AMERICAN CHEMISTRY COUNCIL WERE
CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL AND HAVE
BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF STATE
PROCUREMENT PROGRAMS TO PURCHASE
IT WITH THE INTENT OF PURCHASING
INCREASED AMOUNTS OF MATERIALS
AND PRODUCTS THAT CONTAIN
RECYCLED MATERIALS. THERE ARE
TWO PROVISIONS IN THE BILL THAT
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT WE THINK
COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL
TRANSPARENCY AND RULEMAKING BY
CALIBER CYCLE. THE FIRST IS WHEN
CALVIN CYCLE IS REQUIRED TO
UPDATE THE LIST OF PRODUCTS
IDENTIFIED IN THIS SECTION AND
UPDATE THE MINIMUM RECYCLED
CONTENT PERCENTAGES. WE THINK
THERE COULD BENEFIT FROM A
LITTLE BIT OF TRANSPARENCY AND
PUBLIC PROCESS BEFORE THEY GO
ABOUT ADDING ADDING NEW
PRODUCTS. AND THEN, SECONDLY, IN
SECTION 10 OF THE BILL, THERE IS
A REQUIREMENT OR AUTHORIZATION
OF COWARDS CYCLE TO IMPOSE A
TAKE BACK REQUIREMENT FOR
VENDORS. THE LITTLE UNCLEAR
EXACTLY WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS
WOULD ENTAIL AGAIN THINK THAT
THE BILL COULD BE STRENGTHENED
BY HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PROCESS IN
BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS, SO WE
APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION OF
THOSE BUT UNFORTUNATELY OPPOSED
UNLESS AMENDED RIGHT NOW ON THE
CURRENT VERSION OF THE BILL,
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
PERSONS IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION COME
FORWARD. SEEING NONE. WE WILL GO
TO THE TELEPHONE LINES AND MR
MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY ON THE
LINE WHO WISH TO OPPOSE A B 16
61? SPEAKING OPPOSITION PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
YEAH. WE HAVE NO LINES QUEUED
UP. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
AUTHOR? NO, I DO WOULD CMMENT.
I THINK IT MAKES ABUNDANT SENSE
THAT WE HAVE THE STATE USING ITS
PURCHASING POWER TO HELP THAT
AND I HOPE THAT MEMBERS OF THE
AIRPORT AND THE TOXIC SUBSTANCE
CONTROL BORDER LISTENING ON THIS
BECAUSE BECAUSE MANY OF THE
FOLKS THAT DO THE RECYCLING IN
OUR COMMUNITY ARE NOT. THEY
DON'T ENJOY THAT. THE HIGHEST
ESTEEM IN THE EYES OF SOME OF
THE REGULATORS AND THEY DO A
GREAT GREAT JOB AND THEY'VE BEEN
DOING A GREAT JOB FOR YEARS, AND
WE NEED TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE IN
BUSINESS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GO
INTO THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE NOT
DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AND
DON'T HAVE THE LOCATIONS. A LOT
OF NIMBY OPPOSITION TO THAT AND
MAKE SURE THAT THE HARD WORK'S
BEING DONE SO I AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME I WILL MOVE THE
BILL MANAGER THANK YOU. NO NO,
THERE'S ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM
YET, BUT WHEN ONE ARRIVES, THEN
WE WILL CERTAINLY CALL UP YOUR
BILL. RIGHT NOW. I HAVE IT ON
HOLD. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO HAVE
ANOTHER. MEMBER COMING FORWARD,
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALLEGORIES. DID
I SAY THAT RIGHT? YEAH. WELCOME.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I WANT TO START BY
THANKING THE COMMITTEE AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS FOR THEIR WORK ON
THIS BILL, I WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS. A B
267 IS A VITAL MEASURE THAT WILL
HELP ENSURE CALIFORNIA'S
COMMITMENT TO STREAMLINING
NECESSARY WILDFIRE PREVENTION
PROJECTS WHILE STILL ADHERING TO
MEANINGFUL ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTIONS. PUT SIMPLY A B 267
IS A REASONABLE THREE YEAR
EXTENSION OF SP 901 A SECRET
EXEMPTION FOR WILD FILE WILDFIRE
FUEL REDUCTION PROJECTS AND
FEDERAL LANDS THAT HAVE ALREADY
PASSED THE STANDARDS AND THE
REVIEW OF THE NATIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT. NIPAH.
NO ONE HERE NEEDS TO BE REMINDED
OF HOW CRITICAL OF AN ISSUE
WILDFIRES ARE TWO RC AS EACH
YEAR PASSES, MORE ACRES ARE
BURNED, MORE HOMES AND
BUSINESSES ARE DESTROYED AND,
MOST TRAGICALLY EVOLVE. MORE
LIVES ARE LOST. TO HELP MITIGATE
THE DESTRUCTION AND THE LOSS OF
LIFE THE STATE SHOULD COMMIT TO
MEANINGFUL REFORMS THAT WILL
RETURN OUR LAND AND FOREST
HEALTHY CONDITIONS AND REDUCE
THE SEVERITY OF WILDFIRES. ONE
IMPORTANT WAY WE CAN FURTHER
THIS COMMITMENT IS BY SUPPORTING
PROVEN METHODS THAT WORK TO
STREAMLINE TREATMENT OF OUR
FORESTS. THIS BILL IS ONE SUCH
MEASURE. IT IS A SENSIBLE
EXTENSION OF EXISTING LAW, WHICH
ENSURES THAT LOCAL AND STATE
AGENCIES CAN CARRY OUT THE
NECESSARY RESTORATION PROJECTS.
IN A TIMELY AND EFFICIENT MANNER
WHILE STILL MAINTAINING
MEANINGFUL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW
STANDARDS BECAUSE THIS EXEMPTION
IS BEING USED TO STREAMLINE
SUCCESSFUL FOREST RESTORATION
PROJECTS RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR
YOUR I VOTE A B 267 SO THAT OUR
STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES MAY
CONTINUE THIS IMPORTANT WORK.
WITHOUT ADDITIONAL REGULATORY
BURDENS WITH ME TODAY AS AN
EXPERT WITNESS AND SUPPORTED THE
BILL IS PROFESSOR BRANDON
COLLINS OF /C, BERKELEY. THEN I
BELIEVE HE'S ON THE TELEPHONE
LINE. CORRECT MR. MODERATOR WILL
YOU CALL THE LEAD WITNESS, DR
BRANDON COLLINS. THIS IS BRANDON
COLLINS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT
WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO WITH WITH
LITTLE ARCHIE PERTAINED TO THE
INLAND FORESTS OF CALIFORNIA
THAT IS THOSE THAT ARE NOT, YOU
KNOW, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO
THE COAST AND ALSO NOT SORT OF
THE STRUGGLING DOMINATED SYSTEMS
OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE
STATE OF THE FOREST, AND THESE
INLAND FORESTS IS SIGNIFICANTLY
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED NATURAL AND THAT
REALLY POSING PART 22 MAJOR
INFLUENCES ONE DAY AND THE
REMOVAL OF FIRE. THESE ARE FIRE
ADAPTED SYSTEMS. THEY HAD FIRE
FOR MILLENNIA, AND WE'VE REMOVED
IT FROM HIM AND AS A RESULT OF
CHANGE THEM TO GETTING. WE'VE
ALSO HARVESTED QUITE A BIT FROM
COMMERCIAL TIMBER HARVESTING.
THAT'S ALSO CHANGING FOREST IN
THOSE TWO INFLUENCES AND A FEW
OTHERS AS WELL. HAVE LED TO A
CONDITION WHERE WE HAVE MUCH
DENSER FOREST CONDITIONS THAN WE
DID. HISTORICALLY WE HAVE
DIFFERENT SPECIES SPECIES THAT
ARE NOT AS WELL ADAPTED TO
WITHSTANDING FIRE. WE ALSO HAVE
A LOT MORE SMALL TREES AGAIN.
TREES THAT ARE NOT REALLY, UM
WHAT WE CONSIDER RESISTANT OR
ABLE TO SURVIVE FIRE. SO THESE
THESE FUEL REDUCTION AND FOREST
RESTORATION ACTIVITIES CAN
CHANGE SOME OF THE OUTCOMES. OF
THAT THAT SHIFT THAT WE HAVE HAD
YOUR SMALLER TREES AND DIFFERENT
SPEECHES, DENSITY. WE ALSO HAVE
ISSUES OF ACCUMULATION OF DEAD
PLANT MATERIAL ON THE FOREST
FLOOR. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S
ALL CONSTANTLY DEPOSITION FROM
TREES THAT ARE DYING OR EVEN
BRANCHES THAT ARE FALLING OFF.
TIME AND THERE'S NO PROCESS FOR
REMOVING THAT WHEN WE'VE TAKEN
FIRE OUT OF THE SYSTEM SWEEPS
LEAVE, DON'T HAVE A WAY TO
REALLY GET RID OF A LOT OF THAT
DEPTH. YOU'LL SO AGAIN. THE FUEL
REDUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT
INCLUDE PRESCRIBED BURNING IN
SOME TYPE OF MECHANICAL
TREATMENTS. THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN
DEAL WITH THESE CONDITIONS AS
WELL AS SOME OF THE PLANNED
BACTERIAL SO I THINK WHAT IN
SUMMARY THAT THIS BILL IS KIND
OF A LOGICAL AND FAIRLY SIMPLE
STEP TOWARDS PORTS, CHANGING
SOME OF THE TRAJECTORY OF OUR
FORESTS. HONESTLY, WHAT IS
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS
SOMETHING LONG TERM THAT IS
GOING TO IMPROVE. THE EFFICIENCY
BY WHICH TREATMENTS ARE ARE PUT
ON TO THE TO THE IN THE FORESTS,
AND NOT JUST AS IT PERTAINS TO
THIS PARTICULAR BILL ON AREAS
WHERE THERE'S ALSO NEED THE
DOCUMENTS. WE REMINDED FOR OTHER
PROJECTS AS WELL. SO I'LL LEAVE
IT AT THAT. AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU AND I WILL GO TO
THOSE IN THE ROOM. ANYONE HERE
IN THE ROOM? I'D LIKE TO COME
FORWARD AND TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF A B 2 67. YES GOOD MORNING,
MADAM CHAIR CHRIS MAKELELE ON
BEHALF OF HUMBOLDT AND MENDOCINO
REDWOOD COMPANIES IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR KILLER
ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF SAVE THE
REDWOODS LEAGUE AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, CHRIS ROSA ON BEHALF OF
CAL FORESTS AND SUPPORT SEEING
NO OTHERS COMING FORWARD.
MODERATOR DO WE HAVE ANYONE
QUEUING UP ON THE PHONE LINES IN
SUPPORT OF A B 2 67? SPEAKING
SUPPORT PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WELL, FIRST GO TO
LINE 49 GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING,
THE HEAT AND RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. LINE 25. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR AND MEMBERS RICHARD
HILDA'S ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES. THANK YOU. LINE 31.
YES. GOOD MORNING, KIRK WILBUR,
WITH THE CALIFORNIA CATTLEMEN'S
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF A B 2
67. THANK YOU. LINE 21. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS ERICA
BACCHUS, REPRESENTING THE SPHERE
OF BUSINESS COUNCIL IN SUPPORT
OF A B 2 67. THANK YOU. MADAM
CHAIR. WE HAVE NO FURTHER LINES
IN. Q THANK YOU, AND WE DO NOT
HAVE A LEAD OPPOSITION HERE.
COLOR ON THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO STEP
FORWARD TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
TO A B 2 67. SEEING NONE. WE
WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES
MODERATOR. WE HAVE ANY
OPPOSITION SPEAKING OPPOSITION.
SQUARE SPEAKING OPPOSITION PRESS
10 AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE A LINE
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEIR LINE NUMBER. WE'LL
OPEN UP LINE. 43 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING, DANIEL
BROUGHT ON BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB
CALIFORNIA. WE HAD AN APPROACH
POSITION ON THIS BILL. BUT WITH
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
REQUIRING THAT ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACTS BE MITIGATED, ARE
AVOIDED. AND ADDING ADDITIONAL
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. WE PLAN
TO REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION. WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR OF THE
CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR ALL THEIR WORK TO IMPROVE
ITSELF. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. THEN WE'LL
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OR
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE THERE ARE
NONE. HEADS ON AHEAD, JUST LIKE
TO SAY SOMEBODY WHO HAS WORKED
IN THE SPACE A LOT OVER THE LAST
FEW YEARS AND WAS WORKED VERY
DILIGENT ON 901 TO GET THE WORK
BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT TO
ACTUALLY RECOGNIZE THAT NIPAH
AND SECRET OR DON'T NEED TO BE
DUPLICATED ON DIFFERENT LANDS.
SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE
ANY PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO DO A
SEQUEL ON THAT LAND TO DO IT,
IT'S STREAMLINED THE PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FILM
FOR AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING
WHEN WE GET A OPPORTUNITY TO
ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT. YEAH, THE
ONLY THING I WILL REITERATE WHAT
DR COLLINS SAYS. THIS IS ABOUT
THE PROBLEM HAVING A LONG TERM
PLAN. IT'S NICE TO HAVE THIS
THREE YEAR EXTENSION. I KNOW
THEY THE SENATE HAS TRIED TO PUT
MORE MONEY IN FIRE PREVENTION
HAS HAS BEEN REJECTED BY THE
ASSEMBLY'S LEADERSHIP TO DO A
FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR $1.3 BILLION
PER YEAR, BUT WE STILL CONTINUE
TO LOOK AT LONG. LONG TERM PLANS
TO MANAGE OUR FORCE AND TO
IMPROVE THE HEALTH, THE HEALTH
OF THE FOREST THAT THEY HAVE
THERE. THERE'S IS JUST A
KALEIDOSCOPE OF DIFFERENT AREAS
THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND
OTHERS THAT ARE BEING NEGLECTED.
SO VERY GOOD, BILL. NOTHING ELSE
TO SAY. GREAT WELL, THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S VALID OURS. WE
DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM. BUT WHEN
WE DO, GET YOUR BILL ON HOLD
UNTIL THEN. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UNFORTUNATELY CALIFORNIA IS
BEHIND WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. IN
TERMS OF HOW MANY RESTORATION
PROJECTS WE HAVE COMPLETED AND
HOW MANY ACRES WE'VE BEEN TO
HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN TREATED. IF
WE ARE GOING TO MEET OUR FOREST
RESTORATION GOALS, WE NEED TO
ENSURE THAT WE AREN'T TAKING
AWAY THE NECESSARY TOOLS THAT
ALLOW CAL FIRE AND LOCAL
AGENCIES TO DO THEIR JOBS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT ON THIS MEASURE TODAY
AND TO HELP CONTINUE
CALIFORNIA'S COMMITMENT TO
RESTORING FORESTS TO HEALTHY
CONDITIONS AND PROTECTING OUR
CONSTITUENTS FROM THE SEVERITY
OF THESE DESTRUCTIVE WILDFIRES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL
CALL ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA HOUSE
TWO BILLS THIS MORNING A B 17 49
AND A B 26 49. HAND OUT. AND I'M
ALSO GOING TO PRESENT TWO BILLS
FOR MR RIVAS AFTERWARDS. FOR
WHOM? ROBERT RIVAS, OKAY. BIâU
TO START WITH 7 99. YES, OKAY.
OKAY I WANT TO START BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS ON A B 17 49 AND
THANK THEM FOR THEIR HELP ON
THIS. A B 17 49 WOULD REQUIRE
THE STATE AIR RESOURCES BOARD TO
IDENTIFY IN EACH COMMUNITY AIR
PROTECTION BLUEPRINT UPDATE
MEASURES TO REDUCE CRITERIA, AIR
POLLUTANTS AND TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS. IT WILL ALSO
REQUIRE AIR DISTRICTS IN THEIR
ANNUAL REPORTS TO INCLUDE
RESULTS FROM COMMUNITY EMISSION
REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND THE
ACTIONS TAKEN TO ENSURE
CONSISTENCY OF THOSE PROGRAMS.
THIS BILL ALSO INCREASES
TRANSPARENCY BY REQUIRING
CERTAIN GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES
THAT HAVE APPROVED PERMITS OF
EMISSIONS TO MAKE THAT PERMIT
AVAILABLE ON A WEBSITE AND ALSO
GIVE UP TO ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR
TO ADOPT COMMUNITY EMISSIONS
REDUCTION PROGRAMS. WITH CONSENT
OF THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
WHEN YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM. I
HAVE REBECCA GONZALEZ FROM THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS, CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
THEN THE SPIT AT THE DAILY FROM
THE SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT. THINKING ABOUT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I SEE YOU HAVE
A TECHNICAL UM SUPPORTER, PHILIP
CROWD. IS THAT CORRECT? YES,
HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. OKAY? GREAT
HE WANTED TO REMIND OUR LEAD
SUPPORT. THERE ARE TWO AND WE
THE TOTAL TIME ALLOWED FOR THE
SUPPORT WITNESSES. LEAD SUPPORT
IS THREE MINUTES. SO BEAR THAT
IN MIND SO, MR MODERATOR, YOU
MAY CALL THEM. AIRLINES SHOULD
BE OPEN. I'LL GET STARTED
GETTING MORNING CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS REBECCA
GONZALEZ AND I REPRESENT THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS. CALIFORNIA CHAPTER. WE
REPRESENT SOCIAL WORKERS WITH A
DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK FROM AN
ACCREDITED SCHOOL OF SOCIAL
WORK. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF A B
17 49, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE
FAIR STATE AIR RESOURCES BOARD
TO IDENTIFYING EACH STATEWIDE
STRATEGY. UPDATE MEASURES TO
REDUCE CRITERIA, AIR POLLUTANTS
AND TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS IN
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITIES.
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE
SEVERELY OVERBURDENED BY
CUMULATIVE EMISSIONS FROM MANY
SOURCES, INCLUDING TRACKS AND
CARS ON THE FREEWAYS, PORTS,
WAREHOUSES, RAILYARDS, VARIOUS
INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AND OTHER
SIGNIFICANT SOURCES. THESE
COMMUNITIES SUFFER FROM HIGHER
RATES OF ASTHMA, CARDIOVASCULAR
DISEASE, LOW BIRTH RATE AND MANY
OTHER SERIOUS HEALTH CONDITIONS
, INCREASING OR REFUSING TO
ADDRESS CURRENT CRITERIA, AIR
POLLUTANTS AND TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS AND THESE ALREADY
OVERBURDENED NEIGHBORHOODS. IS
NOT ACCEPTABLE. A B 17 49 WILL
PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE EMISSIONS
PERMITTING PROCESS AND
ADMINISTRATION OF THE COMMUNITY
AIR PROTECTION PROGRAM. THIS
BILL WILL GIVE GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES ADDITIONAL TOOLS
PROHIBIT A HARMFUL PROJECTS THAT
INCREASE PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS AND
CALIFORNIA. AND WILL REQUIRE THE
DISCLOSURE OF PERMITS FOR
DISTRICT WITH A POPULATION OF A
MILLION PERSONS OR MORE TO
REPORT ON AN INTERNET WEBSITE IS
NEW EMISSIONS ARE APPROVED.
FINALLY THERE'S STILL ONE SURE
WILL ENSURE THAT AIR DISTRICTS
REPORT RESULTS ANNUALLY AND
INCLUDE UPDATES MADE TO ALIGN
COMMUNITY EMISSION REDUCTION
PROGRAM. SOME OF THE LATEST
VERSION OF THE BOARD'S BLUEPRINT
AND GIVE ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR FOR
THE ADOPTION OF COMMUNITY
EMISSION PRODUCTION PROGRAM FOR
ALL THESE REASONS AND ASK W
SUPPORTS A B 17 49 AND ASKED,
SUPPORTED THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. NEXT
WITNESS. GOOD MORNING SHARING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
DENISE PERALTA GAILY ON BEHALF
OF SOUTH COAST AQMD. WE WOULD
LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB
17 49, THE 86 17 COMMUNITY AIR
PROTECTION PROGRAM IS DESIGNED
TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AND
COMMUNITIES DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTED BY AIR POLLUTION. THE
SOUTH COAST REGION CURRENTLY HAS
SIX COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
SELECTED FOR THIS PROGRAM
CURRENTLY EACH A B 6 17
COMMUNITY HAS ONLY ONE YEAR TO
ADOPT A COMMUNITY EMISSIONS
REDUCTION PLAN OR SERVE, WHICH
IDENTIFIES AND OUTLINED
STRATEGIES FOR ADDRESSING THE
COMMUNITIES. MOST CRITICAL AIR
QUALITY NEEDS. 80 17 49 WOULD
ALLOW WITH COMMUNITY APPROVAL AN
ADDITIONAL YEAR FOR THE ADOPTION
OF A SURPRISE THAT PROVIDING THE
TIME NEEDED TO ESTABLISH THE
PROGRAM AND IDENTIFY THE
STRATEGIES FOR ADDRESSING
POLLUTION ISSUES BY EXTENDING
THE DEADLINE TO TWO YEARS. THIS
BILL WILL ADDRESS THE KEY
COMMUNITY CONCERNS. WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU WILL NOW
GO TO THE ROOM AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO COME FORWARD IN SUPPORT
OF A B 17 49? SEEING NONE. LET
US GO TO THE PHONE LINES AND
CALL UP ANYONE OR QUEUING UP
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B
17 49. SPEAKING SUPPORT, PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WILL OPEN UP LINES 56.
CALIFORNIA. RENDON FEELING ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA AIR
POLLUTION CONTROL OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL AND PRINT. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE NO FURTHER LINES IN Q. VERY
GOOD. AND WE DON'T HAVE A LEAD
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, SO ANYONE
HERE IN THE ROOM WOULD LIKE TO
COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 17 49. MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS PAUL JIRO,
REPRESENTING THE WESTERN STATES
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE
WHAT WE WOULD IDENTIFY AS A
MINOR AMENDMENT. CURRENTLY THE
BILL REQUIRES HARD TO IDENTIFY
MEASURES TO PRODUCE CRITERIA AIR
POLLUTANTS. WE BELIEVE THAT'S
INCONSISTENT WITH THE LOCAL
APPROACH OF 6 17 PROGRAM AND
BELIEVE THAT IDENTIFY SHOULD BE
CHANGED TO UPDATE TO BETTER
REFLECT THE LOCAL BLUEPRINTS
THAT EXISTS NOW. FOR THOSE
REASONS, WE HAVE BEEN OPPOSING
LESS AMENDED POSITION. THANK
YOU. SEEING NONE OTHERS IN THIS
ROOM, THEN LET'S GO TO THE PHONE
LINES. MODERATOR QUÊ UP ANYONE
WHO IS, UM, ON THE PHONE LINES
WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
TO A B 17 49. TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE DO HAVE A LINE
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
WHILE WE GIVE PROVIDE THEIR LINE
NUMBER I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A LINE
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEM THEIR LINE NUMBER.
WILL OPEN UP PLANES 61 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS. THIS IS BEING TALLY
WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION. WE DO HAVE OPPOSING
WESTERN, MANY POSITION ON THE
BILL THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO
WORKING WITH. THANK YOU. THERE
IS NO FURTHER LINES IN Q. AT
THIS TIME. YOU'RE GOOD, THEN
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR
SOMEBODY MEMBER GARCIA ANDREA WE
ALMOST HAD AQUARIUM, BUT WE
HAVEN'T WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM
YET, BUT WHEN WE DO, WE WILL
CERTAINLY TAKE UP THAT BILL.
THEN WE'LL GO TO ONE QUESTION.
I'M SORRY. SORRY IT'S OK. I'M
SORRY. I JUST MISSED THE
OPENING, AND, UH UM. I JUST
WANTED TO ASK THE AUTHOR THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE
HAD SUGGESTED I AM ACCEPTING
THOSE THREE, OKAY? AND SHE DID.
YES AND I KNOW WE DON'T QUARREL.
BUT WHEN WE DO ALL BE PREPARED
TO MOVE THE BILL. GREAT. AND
WE'LL MOVE TO A B 26 49
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PLEASE PROCEED
. YES A B 26 49 CALLS FOR THE
SEQUESTRATION OF 60 MILLION
METRIC TONS OF CARBON BY 2030
UNNATURAL AND WORKING LANDS.
THIS BILL ALSO CALLS FOR AN
INCREASE IN SEQUESTRATION. 2 75
MILLION METRIC TONS BY 2035. TO
PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE 60
MILLION METRIC TONS OF CARBON
DIOXIDE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE
YEARLY CARBON EMISSION FROM
ABOUT 13 MILLION CARS IS AN
AMBITIOUS YET ACHIEVABLE TARGET
AKIN TO OUR CLIMATE GOAL IN THE
ENERGY AND TRANSPORTATION
SECTOR. AND COMMISSIONER WITH
THE FACT THAT OUR NATURAL
WORKING LANDS ARE ONE OF THE
PILLARS OF THE STATE'S CLIMATE
EMERGE CLIMATE STRATEGIES.
INVESTING IMPROVING COST
EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS LIKE
COMPOSTING FOOD WASTE AND
APPLYING TO SOILS. PLANTING
COVER CROPS, URBAN TREE PLANTING
AND HABITAT RESTORATION CAN HELP
CALIFORNIA BECOME A GLOBAL MODEL
FOR WOMEN, NATURAL CARBON
SEQUESTRATION. I'M GOING TO KEEP
MY COMMENTS BRIEF AND ALLOW MY
WITNESSES TO FILL IN THE REST. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE
WHEN YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH
ME TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT. IS
VINCENT OR MODA WITH THE CLIMATE
CENTER AND JEFFREY CREEK FROM
THE CARBON CYCLE INSTITUTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND THE WE
HAVE IN PERSON WELCOME. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND COMMITEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS VINCENT OR
AT MODERATE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
MANAGER WITH THE CLIMATE CENTER
. I'M HONORED TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT BETWEEN 6 49. AND I'M
GRATEFUL TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GARCIA FOR CHAMPIONING THIS
BILL. RECENT CLIMATE SCIENCE
REPORTS FROM THE CLEAR THE
WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO SECURE
A LIVABLE FUTURE IS QUICKLY
CLOSING. WE MUST CUT, POSSIBLY
FUEL USE IN HALF BY 2030 WHILE
ALSO REMOVING THE HUGE AMOUNTS
OF CARBON THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT
INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE IF WE HAVE
TO, IF WE'RE TO HAVE A SHOT AT
SECURING A STABLE CLIMATE. TO
REMOVE THAT LEGACY. CLIMATE
POLLUTION, THE STATEMENT RAPIDLY
SCALE UP PROVEN COST EFFECTIVE
PRACTICES FOR NATURAL CARBON
SEQUESTRATION. SUCH AS APPLYING
COMPOST AND PLANTING COVER CROPS
ON AGRICULTURAL SOILS. RESTORING
RIPARIAN HABITAT AND COASTAL
WETLANDS. MANAGING ARMATURE FOR
STRUCTURES AND GREENING OUR
CITIES. 26 49 WILL SET URGENTLY
NEEDED AND ACHIEVABLE STATE
GOALS FOR NATURALLY OCCURRING
CARBON IN SOIL AND VEGETATION
OVER THE LONG TERM. THEREBY
ENSURING THAT IS CARBON CYCLES
THROUGH NATURAL SYSTEMS. IT
ACCUMULATES IN VEGETATION AND
SOIL OVER YEARS, DECADES AND
LONGER. WHILE THE AMOUNT
RETURNING TO THE ATMOSPHERE FROM
THE SYSTEMS IS REDUCED. WE
CANNOT RELY ON TECHNOLOGICAL
DIRECT AIR CAPTURE YET WHICH IS
STILL IN ITS INFANCY, VERY
EXPENSIVE AND NOT YET SCALABLE.
OUR NATURAL, ONLY NATURAL CARBON
ACCRUAL CAN COST EFFECTIVELY
DRAW DOWN PREVIOUS CARBON
EMISSIONS AT SCALE IN THIS
DECADE. WHILE ALSO INCREASING
OUR RESILIENCE TO GROWING
CLIMATE EXTREMES AND PROVIDING
MULTIPLE CO BENEFITS FOR HEALTH,
ENVIRONMENT AND ECONOMY. THE
BILL IS SUPPORTED BY OVER 80
ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING CIVIC
WILL FORMALLY THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT COMMISSION WHO ASKED
US TO CONVEY THEIR SUPPORT FOR
THE BILL. WE URGE YOUR I VOTE ON
THE NATURAL CARBON SEQUESTRATION
AND RESILIENCE ACT, WHICH IS
ESSENTIAL FOR SECURING A HEALTHY
CLIMATE SAFE FUTURE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESSES ON THE COASTLINE.
MODERATOR. GOOD MORNING. GOOD
MORNING TO GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING. I'M JEFF
CREEK, DIRECTOR OF THE CARBON
CYCLE INSTITUTE, WHICH IS A CO
SPONSOR BETWEEN 49 HOLD THE
DOCTOR IN RANGELAND ECOLOGY AND
THE USDA CERTIFIED CONSERVATION
PLANNER. I HAVE WORKED WITH
SCORES OF FARMERS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA AND I MYSELF FARMED
IN MARINE COUNTY FOR 35 YEARS.
AS MUCH AS A THIRD OF THE
EXCESS. YOU TWO IN THE
ATMOSPHERE IS A DIRECT RESULT OF
MISMANAGEMENT OF THE WORLD'S
NATURAL THAN WORKING TO PROTECT
AND RESTORE CALIFORNIA'S
BIODIVERSITY OR WATER, SALMON,
FORESTS, RANGELANDS, WATERSHEDS
, AGRICULTURAL SOILS, OR NATURAL
RESOURCE BASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY
AND HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
WE MUST URGENTLY SAID IN THE
AMBITIOUS GOALS FOR THE
TRANSFER. EXCESS HERE TO BACK
INTO TERRESTRIAL AND AQUATIC
ECOSYSTEMS. IN THE PROCESS, WE
WILL ENHANCE THE AIR, WATER AND
FOOD QUALITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES
AND THE RESILIENCE TO CLIMATE
CHANGE. WE WOULD EVER SAY THAT
ALL ACTIONS UNDER THE TERMS OF
THE BILL OR VOLUNTARY. AS ONLY
WILLING ENGAGEMENT OF THE
NATURAL WORKING IN SECTOR CCIW.
THE AMBITIOUS CALLS OF ELATION
MAYBE 26 49 DOES NOT DEFINE THE
MEANS TO MEET THESE GOALS, BUT
PROPOSES A PROCESS TO FIND THOSE
NEEDS. HE ROSE TO THE CHALLENGE
OF THE DEATH TOLL BY CREATING SO
CONSERVATION SERVICE AND
CIVILIAN CONTRIBUTION CORE AND
THE COUNTY CONSERVATION
DISTRICTS. THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
STILL EXIST WITH ADEQUATE
SUPPORT, INCLUDING A GREATLY
EXPANDED IN WELL TRAINED
WORKFORCE AND STRONG FINANCIAL
AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT. FOR
INTENSIVE THOUSANDS OF LAND
MANAGERS ACROSS THE STATE. WE
CAN MEET THIS NEW, MUCH GREATER
CHALLENGE. 26 49 AMBITIOUS,
ESSENTIAL AND REALIZABLE PERIODS
, TERRESTRIAL CARBON
SEQUESTRATION IN CALIFORNIA AND
WE URGE YOUR EYE BOAT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LET'S GO TO WITNESSES
HERE IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT? OF A B 26
49 GOOD MORNING, KAYLA ROBINSON
ON BEHALF OF THE MID PENINSULA
REGIONAL OPEN SPACE DISTRICT AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MARK VENTURE MAKER ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS
OF PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THE BILL
OR DRIVE OUT. GOOD MORNING,
REBECCA MARCUS, REPRESENTING
AMERICAN FIRM LAND TRUST AND THE
CALIFORNIA CLIMATE AND
AGRICULTURE NETWORK. AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WE WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES
NOW AND ASK THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT. MODERATOR, WE PLEASE
CALL THEM ON A B 26 49. SPEAKING
SUPPORT, PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. FIRST OPEN UP LINE,
63 GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, JIM
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
OF CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE OTHER
LINES IN Q ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEIR LINE NUMBERS.
BUYING 62. HEIDI HARMAN AT THE
SCREEN, CALIFORNIA AND FORMER
MAYOR OF SIMILAR TO THIS IN VERY
STRONG SUPPORT. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. GOOGLE NEXT TO LINE 20
GO AHEAD. THE MORNINGS AND
DIFFERENT CUP PEREIRA WITH THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AIR QUALITY
COALITION SUPPORT. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. VERY GOOD.
THEN WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE
OPPOSITION TO A B 26 49. WE DO
HAVE ONE LEAD OPPOSITION IN
PERSON. TAYLOR ROSHAN. GOOD
MORNING, MADAM. I PRONOUNCE THAT
CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY GOOD MORNING
, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. TAYLOR
RUSSIAN WITH A CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU ON BEHALF OF THE
COMMUNITY. WE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED MAYBE 26 49. WE AGREE
WITH THE OTHER AND SPONSORS
COMMENTS TODAY THAT THE
POTENTIAL OF NATURAL WORKING
LANCER SEQUESTER CARBON HAS BEEN
UNDERVALUED THAT INCLUDED
INCLUDES IN THE DRAFT SCOPING
PLAN, AND WE APPRECIATE THE
AUTHOR'S INTENTION TO PROVIDE
MORE AMBITIOUS TARGETS. WITH
THAT SAID, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT
THE GOALS AND THE BILL REFLECT
THE PENDULUM SWINGING TOO FAR IN
THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, AND WE
QUESTION WHETHER THEY CAN BE
REALISTICALLY ACHIEVED AS THE
ANALYSIS NOTES THE ESTIMATES FOR
NATURAL WORKING LANDS POTENTIAL
VARY DRAMATICALLY, AND MANY OF
THE CITIES THAT SUPPORT THE MOST
AMBITIOUS TARGETS ARE ADMITTEDLY
BASED ON BEST CASE SCENARIOS.
UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE IMPACTS
OF DROUGHT AND WILDFIRE,
INCREASING COST AND
AFFORDABILITY OF INPUTS, FARMERS
NEED TO DO MANAGEMENT PRACTICES
AND THE PRODIGIOUS LOSS OF PRIME
AG LAND. WE ARE NOT ANYWHERE
NEAR A BEST CASE SCENARIO.
POLICE GOLD WOULD BE AT BEST SET
WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT ON THE
MODELING THAT WAS USED
ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE AND
HAVEN'T BEEN EVALUATED PUBLICLY
FOR ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL
FEASIBILITY. IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE
. I THINK FOR ME TO BE IN A
POSITION TO DEFEND THE SCOPING
PLAN. BUT THE SCOPING PLAN
PROCESS TO ITS CREDIT DOES
INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE
TWO IMPORTANT VARIABLES IN
GROUNDING THE STATE'S CLIMATE
ACTIONS. FINALLY AS THESE GOALS
WOULD BE, IN ADDITION TO THOSE
THAT ARE IN THE SCOPING PLAN,
AND ANY SEQUESTRATION WORK
INCENTIVIZED THROUGH VOLUNTARY
CARBON MARKETS WOULD NOT BE
COUNTED TOWARDS THESE AMBITIOUS
GOALS. THIS WILL LEAD TO
CONFUSION AMONGST THE WORKING
LAND SECTOR RESPONSIBLE FOR
DOING THESE MANAGEMENT
PRACTICES. UM WHICH SYSTEM IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT TO BE COUNTED
IN THE SCOPING PLAN OR THESE
GOALS AND WHAT ARE THE
CONSEQUENCES OF CHOOSING THE
WRONG SYSTEM? THESE ARE THE
KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT WORKING
LANDHOLDERS WILL ASK THEMSELVES
WHEN DOING DECADE ALL PROJECTS.
MOREOVER MUDDIED MARKET SIGNALS
AND UNCLEAR EXPECTATIONS YEAR
OVER YEAR MAY STYMIE PRIVATE
INVESTMENT IN THESE LONG SCALE
NATURAL MARKING LANDS PROJECTS,
INCLUDING THOSE LISTED ON SP 27
CLEARINGHOUSES AT A TIME WHEN I
THINK WE ALL AGREE WE NEED TO
SCALE UP WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSOR ON THE BILL, AND AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME WE REQUESTED
ABOUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM? I
WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND
REGISTER OPPOSITION TO A B 26 49
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS ANTHONY
MILLION ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA GRAIN AND FEED
ASSOCIATION TO CALIFORNIA PEAR
GROWERS ASSOCIATION. THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF WHEAT
GROWERS IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS BETHEL, ALSO ON
BEHALF OF THE AGRICULTURAL
ENERGY CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION AND
CALIFORNIA POULTRY FEDERATION,
ECHO THE EXCELLENT COMMENTS OF
MR OCEAN. THANK YOU. SAYING NO
ONE ELSE. WE WILL NOW GO TO THE
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
MODERATOR. SPEAKING OPPOSITION
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. ONE
MOMENT, PLEASE. WHILE WE PROVIDE
THEIR LINE NUMBERS WILL OPEN UP
LINES 68 GO AHEAD. HELLO. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. GO AHEAD. MCGUIRE
IS TAKING HELLO. I'M SORRY. I'M
NOT SURE IF I GOT MY COMMENT IN
ON TIME, BUT I REMEMBER. SO HOW
WOULD THREATEN PRICE CONSULTING
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, ALLIANCE
AND ENVIRONS VOTERS IN SUPPORT
OF 26 49? WE'LL GO NEXT TO LINE
58 GO AHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD
MORNING. KAREN MEMBERS DERRINGER
WITH AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIA ALSO RESPECTFULLY IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE
ONE MORE LINE IN Q ONE MOMENT
WHILE WE PROVIDE THEIR LINE
NUMBER. LINE. 22 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. MORNING MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS, CODY BOILS IN BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA FRESH FRUIT
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER
LINES IN CUBA AT THIS TIME.
WELL, THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE AND WE DO HAVE
A QUORUM. IF I'VE COUNTED RIGHT,
SO LET'S CALL THE ROLL FIRST, SO
WE ESTABLISH A QUORUM. COOL.
BEFORE OH, PLEASE. OH SORRY I
MISSED MY SCRIPT HERE. SENATOR
MCGUIRE WILL BE IN COMMITTEE
TODAY IN LIEU OF SENATOR
GONZALEZ. ALAN BATES. KIRA HERE,
DOLLY! DELI HERE, MAGUIRE
SKINNER. SKINNER HERE, STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI HERE. WE
DO HAVE A QUORUM WILL BRING BACK
A B 26 49 FOR COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. I'LL ASK A QUESTION.
TAG PEOPLE RAISE AN INTERESTING
POINT. I KNOW I SEE THE BENEFIT
OF SEPARATING SEQUESTRATION FROM
CARBON REDUCTION ON THE OTHER
HAND IN THE AG UNIVERSE, AND WE
HAVE PACKAGING PLANTS THAT ARE
BIG CARBON POLLUTERS AND BUT
THEN THEIR ECOSYSTEM IF THEY
WOULD ACTUALLY CHANGED THE WAY
THAT THEY GREAT, RAISED THE
LETTUCE AND ACTUALLY DID SOME
CARBON SEQUESTRATION. IT SEEMS
UNFAIR NOT TO GIVE THEM THAT
CREDIT FOR THE REDUCTION I GET I
GET THE GENERAL VIEW IS THAT WE
DON'T WANT PEOPLE TRADING OFF ON
SEQUESTRATION LANDS. WHAT WOULD
YOU SAY TO BECAUSE TO THEIR
OBJECTIONS THAT THEY HAVE UM,
THANK YOU. ACTUALLY I DON'T
WANNA MISS TALK. DO YOU MIND IF
I HAVE ONE OF MY EXPERTS ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION. I THINK ACTUALLY
DEFER TO DR CREEK IF YOU'RE
STILL ON THE LINE. IT'S STILL
HERE. UM I THINK I THINK THAT
AGAIN. THE BILL OFFERS A MEANS
OF IDENTIFYING STRATEGIES TO
ACHIEVE ITS OBJECTIVES. I THINK
THE EXAMPLE JUST PRESENTED IS A
AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF HOW
EVERYONE DOES HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH QUESTION
CARBON AND MITIGATE CARBON
FOOTPRINT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT
IN AS THE PROCESS IS DEFINED, UM
THIS THIS TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY
WOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND
IMPLEMENTED. I HOPE THAT SO I
GUESS THE IDEA IS, IT'S THE OLD
CARROTS AND STICKS. YOU KNOW YOU
GOT YOU GOT A LOT OF STICKS, AND
THAT'S GREAT. BUT IF WE WANTED
SOME CARROTS HAVE THIS AT LEAST
IN THE AGRICULTURAL WORLD.
BECAUSE THEY BROKE CARROTS THAT
THAT THERE'S A THOUGHT THERE. UM
LET'S TURN TO THE FOREST BECAUSE
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE
LEARNED AND WE'VE BEEN AT THIS
TRYING TO DINVESTMENTS IN THE
BUDGET AND SUCCESSFULLY, I WILL
SAY SINCE 2015 WHEN I STARTED
FOCUSING ON THIS LAND IS THAT WE
KNOW THAT WHEN WE DO FORCE
THINNING, WE GET A LOSS OF
CARBON IN ORDER TO GET THE
FOREST IN GOOD REPAIR. YOU HAVE
TO PAY THE PRICE OF LOSING SOME
CARBON SEEKERS SET.
SEQUESTRATION VALUE IN ORDER TO
GET THE FORCE IN GOOD SHAPE, SO
THAT ONCE THE TREES GET BIGGER,
THEY GROW. SO HELP ME OUT WITH
THAT, BECAUSE PERHAPS THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL AGREE WITH
THE SENATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
SPEND SOME MONEY ON FORCE
PRESERVATION AND REHABILITATE
ACTIVELY DATING. I DON'T KNOW.
WE'LL FIND OT AS OUR BUDGET
DISCUSSIONS GO OUT. BUT IF WE DO
I AM TRYING TO PAINT THE PICTURE
IS THAT IF WE DO THIS WORK RIGHT
NOW, WE WOULD GET TO 2030. AND
UNDER THE CALCULATIONS OF THIS
BILL, WE WOULD NOT MAKE THAT.
CALCULATE WE WOULD NOT BE
SEQUESTERING THAT AMOUNT AT THAT
POINT IN TIME, BUT IN THE LONG
GAME, WHETHER YOU USED 100 YEARS
OR THE 1000 YEAR VARIABLE, THE
FLORIST IS IN A HECK OF A LOT
BETTER SHAPE THAN THEY WERE SO.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. SO
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE SYSTEMS
RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST THE FOREST
. IT IS THE AG LANDS AND IT IS
THE RIPARIAN HABITATS, ETCETERA
. WE LARGELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT
WITH THE FOREST. WE DO NEED TO
SEE SOME MECHANICAL THINNING AND
MAKE SURE THAT THE FORESTS ARE
IN GOOD HEALTH, AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT A LONGER TERM WITH
THIS BILL. NOW EACH ECOSYSTEM
DOES HAVE ITS OWN LIFESPAN, ITS
OWN SET OF CYCLES, AND OUR GOAL
HERE IS TO ACCRUE THE CARBON IN
THOSE VARIOUS ECOSYSTEMS OVER
TIME, SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
NECESSARILY GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN
THE FOREST SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE
WE ARE LOOKING AT A MUCH BROADER
PICTURE OF OUR NATURAL AND
WORKING LANDS. ADDITIONALLY YOU
KNOW, WE DO ALLOW PRETTY WIDE
LATITUDE FOR THE AGENCIES TO
pPROCESSES. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING
TO DO IS SET THE GOAL SO THAT WE
CAN GET MORE PROGRESS MORE
QUICKLY AND INCENTIVIZE THE
PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL AS ALL
THESE OTHER STRATEGIES AND
TECHNIQUES THAT WE KNOW ARE
READILY AVAILABLE NOW TO GET
IMPLEMENTED ON THE FASTER SIDE,
BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, BEFORE, WE
HAVE A LIMITED WINDOW OF TIME.
WELL, WE HOPE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GARCIA. WHEN YOU TALK TO THE
GOVERNOR ABOUT THIS BILL IS THAT
YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A PLAN TO
DO. SEA LEVEL RISE FUNDING. AT
LEAST THE SENATE BILL WAS $3.3
BILLION, AND THEN WE HAD A
CONTINUING APPROPRIATION OR AN
ONGOING EXPENSIVE 300 MILLION,
AND THAT'S BEEN CHOPPED DOWN TO
ONE YEAR, SO IT'S ONE AND DONE
SO IN THIS CONTEXT IF YOU WANT
TO DO THE WORK. THERE'S A
FOLLOWING BUDGET. I'M GETTING
MIXED SIGNALS GET MIXED SIGNALS
OF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, BUT
WE THINK IT'S GRAND. MM HMM. I
HAD TO GET TO WORK. I GUESS
THAT'S IT. GUINNESS IS YOU AND I
WON'T BE HERE. BUT OUR BUDGET
CARE WILL BE HERE AND SHE CAN
KEEP PUSHING THE ADMINISTRATION
AROUND FOR US AND SINCE AND
SINCE I'M GOING ON, YOU KNOW,
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS
CARBON, OTHER CARBON
SEQUESTRATION MECHANICAL. I KNOW
THAT'S NOT THIS BILL, AND IT'S
IN THIS IN. THIS TAKES CARE OF
IT. AND I KNOW THE GOVERNOR HAS
GOT 100 MILLION FOR DIRECT AIR
CAPTURE. BUT THE BIG ENCHILADA
IN THE MIDDLE AND I HAVE A BILL
THAT DIED IN THE ASSEMBLY. SO
I'M OKAY. I'M NOT BITTER, BUT
I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT IS THAT
ALL THESE REPORTS THAT EVERYBODY
IS QUOTING THERE WERE THREE
VARIABLES AND WE'RE NOT, AND
WE'RE EITHER CONVENIENTLY
FORGETTING THE MIDDLE, WHICH HAS
GOT MORE CARROTS AND STICKS. AS
I WOULD SAY IN MAY. IT MAY HAVE
IT BUT UM I'LL MOVE THE BILL
ARGUE, AGNOSTIC AND SEE. SEE US
AND I AM WHO AUTHOR OF A NUMBER
OF OTHER CC US DISCUSSIONS IN
THE MIDDLE, AND I HOPE THAT WE
DO END UP WITH A SYSTEM THAT IS
HOLISTIC. BUT ALL THESE PIECES
ARE IMPORTANT. SO WE'RE JUST
THIS IS ABOUT ONE PIECE IN
PARTICULAR THAT THE NATURAL
WORKING GLANDS IS A LITTLE BIT
OF A RED HEADED STEP CHILD. THAT
NEEDS MORE LOVE. YEAH WE IN
BUDGET SUB TWO. I CAN'T SPEAK
FOR MR DALI. BUT I WILL HAVE
BEEN WORKING SINCE 2015 TO TRY
TO GET SOME MONEY IN THERE. MUCH
TO THEIR CHAGRIN WHEN EITHER
WITH THE OTHER HOUSE OR WHAT?
THE ADMINISTRATION BUT WE WERE
GLAD THAT EVERYBODY HAS COME TO
JESUS NOW AND IT'S SO GOOD. IT'S
THEY'RE ALL IN A GOOD PLACE.
YES, SENATOR SKINNER. THANK YOU
SUB THREE OR FOUR. I ALWAYS
FORGET. APOLOGIES MR SENATOR
FROM FREMONT TO SUB TWO. OH, I
SHOULD KNOW. ANYWAY. APPROPRIATE
AND IT ALSO ENTERTAINING
COMMENTS. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THE BILL. AH!
LOOK THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS OF
SUCH SEVERE PROPORTIONS THAT
ANYONE WHO IS READING THE
REPORTS FROM EL BNL OR OTHERS
KNOW THAT WE CAN NO LONGER WE
ARE NO LONGER IN THE LUXURY OF
JUST DOING EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS
. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO
COMPLETELY ACHIEVE. ZERO
EMISSIONS, BUT WE MUST ALSO GET
CARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
AND THE WAY THAT ARE. ATMOSPHERE
IN OUR GLOBE HAS ALWAYS
FUNCTIONED UNTIL THE INDUSTRIAL
REVOLUTION WHEN WE STARTED
SPEWING SO MUCH CARBON INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE WAS THAT ARE FORESTS
ARE SOILS ARE OCEANS WERE
SEQUESTERING CARBON THAT'S THE
BIO CYCLE. AND NOW WE HAVE
THROWN THAT OFF AND OUR SOILS
BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE MANAGE
THEM NO LONGER SEQUESTER THE
AMOUNT OF KOYA CARBON THAT THEY
SHOULD. SOILS ARE LIVING. WHEN
THEY ARE NOT. REALLY VIBRANT AND
ALIVE. THEY'RE NOT ONLY DON'T
PRODUCE GOOD CROPS. THEY ALSO
DON'T SEQUESTER ENOUGH CARBON
WHEN THEY ARE WHEN THE
MICROORGANISMS IN THAT SOIL THAT
SEQUESTER CARBON ARE THRIVING.
THEY ALSO ARE MUCH BETTER FOR AG
PRODUCTION, THEY PRODUCE FAR
MORE YIELD. SO THIS MAKES SENSE
FOR AG AND I KNOW THAT IT'S
DIFFERENT PRACTICE, AND IT'S
GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
TRANSITION, BUT IT'S REALLY
ESSENTIAL AND IT WILL PRODUCE
BETTER YIELDS FRACK SO I'M
REALLY GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THE
BILL. WE NEED TO MOVE ON IT AND
, UM, HAPPILY IN SUPPORT OF IT.
BUT SINCE IT'S ALREADY MOVED, I
WON'T BE MOVING IT. GO AHEAD,
SENATOR DOLLY! THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR SO AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS
BEEN WHO IS A FARMER AND HAS
APPLIED. I AM 95% CERTIFIED
ORGANIC ON MY FARM AS WE SPEAK
RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG
I CAN STAY THAT WAY AND
COMPETITION WITH THE TOOLS I
NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN
BUSINESS, QUITE FRANKLY, IN
CALIFORNIA. SO I LOOK, THIS IS A
GOAL. THIS IS YOU'RE SETTING A
STANDARDS JUST AS WE DID WITH A
B 32. WE SAID HEY, WE'RE GOING
TO DO SOMETHING BY 2020. AND WE
ACHIEVED THAT. WE ACHIEVED IT BY
2020 AND MAYBE 32 TO EVERY 32.
WE ACHIEVED THE GOAL. AND SINCE
SINCE 2020 WE HAVE THEN SET OUT
THESE LOFTY GOALS ON WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO DUBAI. 2030 2050 AND IN
100 YEAR PLAN TO ZERO SO FOR
THOSE OF US WHO ACTUALLY PRODUCE
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
ACTUALLY PRODUCE A COMMODITY
THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE TO
LIVE. YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT
FOOD. YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT
WATER TO THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO
HAVE TO SURVIVE. IN CALIFORNIA'S
QUOTE LEADING THE WAY ON. THE
ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT AND
SAVING THE PLANET. BUT. THE
FRUSTRATION I HAVE IS THAT WE
SET THESE GOALS AND WE DON'T SAY
HEY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET
THERE? WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY
GOING TO DO TO THE PERSON THAT
IS IN CALIFORNIA? OPERATING A
BUSINESS THAT PROVIDES FOOD AND
FIBER. FOR THE 40 MILLION PEOPLE
THAT JUST LIVE IN CALIFORNIA,
NOT COUNTING THE MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF
CALIFORNIA THAT WE FEED AS WELL.
THEN. HAS BEEN A SUBJECT OF THIS
COMMITTEE THAT I'VE DEBATED. A
LOT IN SUB TWO WITH MY COLLEAGUE
FROM FREMONT AND WE DON'T AGREE
ON A LOT OF THINGS, AND WE AGREE
ON SOME THINGS, BUT WE KNOW FOR
A FACT. THAT SOMETHING IS
HAPPENING. WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
JUST LET'S LOOK AT CALIFORNIA WE
KNOW THAT OUR FOREST IS BURNING
DOWN THE DIXIE FIRE LAST YEAR.
BURNED ALMOST A MILLION ACRES IN
MY DISTRICT. 980,000 ACRES, THE
LARGEST FIRE IN THIS STATES
HISTORY SINGLE FIRE. AND IN THIS
COMMITTEE WE REGULATE. WE HAD A
BILL LAST YEAR THAT REGULATED
LAWN MOWERS, WEED EATERS,
GENERATORS. BECAUSE THERE WAS SO
MUCH POLLUTION AND SMOKE IN THE
AIR, BUT IT DID NOTHING TO DO
ANYTHING FOR THE FOREST WHERE
ALL THE POLLUTION IS ACTUALLY
COMING FROM. WE STOPPED FOR
FORCED BUYER. FOR THE LAST 100
YEARS, WHICH YOU KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN ON THE TOURS WITH ME TO THE
DISTRICT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED
TO DO FOR THE FOREST. BUT I WENT
ON. WHAT I WANT TO DRIVE OUT IS
CALIFORNIA. IS 1% OF THE WORLD
POLLUTION. BUT WE DO THINGS IN
MY OPINION, WAY BETTER IN
CALIFORNIA THAN WE DO IT
ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. WHEN IT
COMES TO PRODUCING FOOD AND
FIBER. WE DO IT IN THE MOST SAFE
, ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY WAY
THAN THERE IS ANYWHERE IN THE
WORLD THAT I'M AWARE OF. IF
THERE'S SOMEPLACE IN THE WORLD
IS DOING IT BETTER THAN US. I'D
LIKE TO KNOW WHO IT IS. BUT AT
THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO STAY.
IN BUSINESS TO DO THAT. WE HAVE
TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER
COUNTRIES AND BECAUSE BECAUSE
THOSE OF US IN BUSINESS ARE
HAVING A HARD TIME COMPETING, SO
I'D LIKE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT
DOES IT LOOK LIKE? FIVE YEARS
FROM NOW? IF THIS BILL PASSES TO
MY BUSINESS, WHAT AM I GOING TO
BE DOING TO STAY IN BUSINESS IN
CALIFORNIA TO TRY TO SAVE THE
CLIMATE AT THE SAME TIME, BE
ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVE. WITH
CHINA WHO'S POLLUTING. AND
NEVADA OR WASHINGTON OR OREGON
OR OTHER STATES THAT ARE SHIPPED
OR MEXICO THAT BRINGS IN OR
CHILE WHO IS EXPORTING INTO
CALIFORNIA, IMPORTING INTO
CALIFORNIA AT THE SAME TIME,
PUTTING OUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK
LIKE? FIVE YEARS FROM NOW?
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO
KNOW. HOW DOES THIS PLAN LIKE
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE
SET GOALS, BUT WE DON'T TELL
ANYBODY HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET
TO THE GOAL. WE JUST SET THE
GOAL AND THEN MAGICALLY. IT'S
JUST GOING TO HAPPEN IN 20
YEARS, AND IT DOESN'T IT REALLY
FORCES THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN
BUSINESS TO EITHER LEAVE THE
STATE GOLD PRODUCERS SOMEWHERE
ELSE AND SHIP IT IN HERE, WHICH
MANY OF MY FRIENDS HAVE LEFT AND
GONE TO MEXICO AND CHILE AND SO
AS A LOT, BUT I WANT TO ASK WHAT
I WANT TO START WITH. TELL ME
WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IN
FIVE YEARS IF I VOTED FOR THIS
BILL, AND I STILL GOING TO BE IN
BUSINESS HERE. AH LET ME SAY
THIS. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT'S
GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN FIVE
YEARS. WE'RE JUST LIKE WITH A B
32 WEEKS AGO, AND WE SET UP
PROCESS AND THEN HOPEFULLY
THROUGH US. INCLUSIVE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. WE COULD
GET TO THAT POINT, BUT WE NEED
TO SET A GOLD AROUND NATURAL
WORKING ANSWERS WE STARTED WITH
MAYBE 32. I WILL SAY THIS, UM MY
FAMILY'S ARE FARMERS AND IN
MEXICO, AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING
WITH CROPS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. WHATEVER
PEOPLE WANT TO CALL IT. AND I
WILL GIVE YOU JUST EVEN
ANECDOTALLY MY MOST RECENT
FRUSTRATION OF GOING TO 10
STORES TO TRY TO FIND THE PATIO
AND WHAT KIND OF MEXICAN
HOUSEHOLD IN MY WITHOUT TAPATIO
AND WE HAVE SRIRACHA. YOU HAVE
THE SAME PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. THE
AND IT HAPPENED EVEN JUST IN MY
IN MY FRONT YARD, MY JALAPENO
PEPPERS, UH, HALFWAY THROUGH
THEIR GROWTH BURNED UP BECAUSE
WE HAD A HEAT WAVE SUDDENLY AND
I STARTED TOSSING OFF. BUT THAT
HAPPENED TO THE CROPS EVERYWHERE
. SO THERE IS NOT THAT BAD. AND
THERE'S NO SARAH CHINA HOUSEHOLD
WHERE, LIKE EVERYTHING IS SPICY.
IT'S A PROBLEM. WE HAVE A
PROBLEM NOW ALREADY AND OUR FOOD
OUR FOOD SUPPLY IS IN DANGER,
AND SO I THINK THEY SHOULD BRING
UP IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
IRRESPECTIVE OF THIS BILL, AND I
WANT TO EAT. I WANT TO HAVE THE
ESSENTIALS. AND THEN I WANT TO
HAVE THE LUXURIES LIKE THIS.
THAT DOES HAVE SARAH'S OUT THERE
AND UNTIL WE'RE STRUGGLING. IF
WE ARE GOING TO GET AHEAD OF
THIS, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW
DO WE ADJUST. HOW DO WE WORKING
LAND AND HOW DO WE DO THAT WITH
OUR FARMERS SOTHAT WE CAN BE
TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE TOES THAT
ARE THERE THE ASSETS THAT ARE
THERE. I THINK FOR MYSELF, I SEE
ASSETS THERE THAT I WANT TO USE
WITH THE SOIL AND I WANT TO HELP
YOU DO YOUR JOB BETTER, BUT I
DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. I
WANT TO CREATE THE PROCESS. SO
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THE
PROCESS THROUGH THIS BY SETTING
THE GOALS TODAY. I AM NOT. I
DON'T HAVE A MAGIC BALL TO TELL
YOU WHAT, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IT
LOOKS LIKE WITH OR WITHOUT THE
SPILL THAT AT THE RATE WE'RE
GOING AT THIS IRRESPECTIVE OF
THE BILL. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE
SOME PROBLEMS AND SOME HEART
SOME HARDER TIMES AHEAD OF US
BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY FACING
HARD TIMES NOW. OUT THERE. I
DON'T KNOW IF MADAM CHAIR IF I
MIGHT BE ONE OTHER THING THAT I
WOULD POINT OUT ABOUT FIVE YEARS
FROM NOW, IF WE'RE DOING THIS
RIGHT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO
INCREASE OUR RESILIENCE TO
DROUGHT AND WATER RETENTION THE
SOIL WHICH WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
HELP I SUSPECT THE CROPS THAT
YOU SO ORGANICALLY PLANT AND
WE'RE SUPER APPRECIATIVE OF
THAT. I'D ALSO FLAG IF WE HAVE A
MOMENT THAT DOCTOR CREEK IS ON
THE LINE AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A FEW REMARKS IN RESPONSE. IF
YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, YAHOO. I
WANT TO BE EDUCATED RIGHT NOW,
BECAUSE I'M LIVING A NIGHTMARE.
THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH. BE HAPPY
TO IF SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW IN
FIVE YEARS I'M STILL GOING TO BE
IN BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA IS A
FARMER WHO'S BEEN DOING IT. MY
FAMILY'S BEEN DOING IT FOR 92
YEARS HERE SUCCESSFULLY. DOCTOR,
DOCTOR GRADUATIONS FOR THAT, MR
BELLY. SERIOUS OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WHAT I THINK EMERGING
IN CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW, AND
REALLY CALIFORNIA IS LEADING ON.
THIS IS AN AWARENESS OF THE
CONCEPT OF CLIMATE BENEFICIAL
AGRICULTURE. UM AND THAT IS A
CARBON FOCUSED AGRICULTURE. AH
WE SEE AN EMERGING MARKET, VERY
LARGE EMERGING MARKET IN EUROPE
, PARTICULARLY IN THE US YEARS,
RECOGNIZED HE POTENTIAL FOR
CALIFORNIA WOMEN FOR US
AGRICULTURE, OF COURSE, BUT
CALIFORNIA PARTICULARLY TO BE A
LEADER IN THIS IN THIS ROOM. SO
UH, I THINK THIS BILL OPENS AN
OPPORTUNITY, UM AND WOULD
SUPPORT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
CALIFORNIA AGRICULTURE TO
ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN THIS CONCEPT.
HAVE QUITE BENEFICIAL FARMING.
WHICH BRINGS WITH IT A PREMIUM
MARKET MARKET OPPORTUNITIES, AND
I THINK IT'S A VERY EXCITING
EMERGING OPPORTUNITY FOR
CALIFORNIA AGRICULTURE, SO I
HOPE I HOPE THAT MAYBE OPENS A
WINDOW, MR DALI, IN WHICH YOU
CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A REAL
PATH FORWARD HERE FOR AN
AGRICULTURE THAT IS BOTH MORE
PRODUCTIVE. UM THAT IS, THAT IS
OFFERS GREATER ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY FOR PRODUCERS, AND
IT'S BENEFICIAL IN EVERY WAY.
THANK YOU. WELL IF I MAY, 1ST OF
ALL, I JUST WANT TO THIS IS
DEFINITELY NOT PERSONALLY YOU
AND I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP,
AND I KNOW THAT. BUT I JUST FOR
THE RECORD TO KNOW. I AM VERY
FRUSTRATED AS SOMEBODY WHO IS
STRUGGLING TO STAY IN
AGRICULTURE IN CALIFORNIA, AND I
WANT TO JUST MAYBE I DON'T. I
DON'T THINK I MEAN WE HEAR A LOT
OF TESTIMONY OF PEOPLE WHO
REPRESENT AG OR PEOPLE WHO ARE
SCIENTISTS OR OR WE HEAR A LOT
ABOUT BUT I'M ACTUALLY DOING IT.
I'M ACTUALLY WE JUST STARTED OUR
HARVEST LAST WEEK AND I OWN ALL
MY LAND. AND ALL MY EQUIPMENT.
I'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO AND I'M
AND I'M MY MARGINS ARE THIN.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M NOT A GOOD
FARMER. IT'S BECAUSE I'M
COMPETING AGAINST. FARMS IN
OREGON AND WASHINGTON AND IDAHO
AND MEXICO THAT DON'T HAVE THIS.
DON'T PLY ON THE SAME FIELD I
PLAY ON. I HAVE A DOLLAR AND A
50 A GALLON DIESEL COST HIGHER
THAN THEY DO IN OREGON. I HAVE
LABOR COSTS ARE HIGHER. I HAVE
ELECTRICITY COSTS THAT ARE
HIGHER. I HAVE INSURANCES. I
HAVE EVERYTHING THAT I DO IS
HIRE, EVEN THOUGH I PRODUCE A
PRODUCT. THAT IS SUPERIOR TO
THEIR PRODUCT. BUT WHEN IT COMES
TO THE PERSON THAT GOES INTO THE
STORE, THEY LOOK ON THE SHELF
AND THEY GO. THEY'RE GOING TO
BUY WHATEVER THEY CAN AFFORD TO
BUY. AND IF MY PRODUCT IS TOO
EXPENSIVE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
BUY MY PRODUCT AND THAT'S WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA. SO I
JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU KNOW
THAT THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE UP
THE COST. OF FOOD, AND IT'S
GOING TO DRIVE UP THE
REGULATIONS ON THOSE OF US WHO
ARE TRYING TO PRODUCE THE FOOD.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT YOUR BILL. I WANT TO GET
THERE. I WANT TO GET TO A PLACE
WHERE WE HAVE IT'S NIRVANA. AND
WE HAVE, LIKE, YOU KNOW ALL THE
THINGS YOU WANT, BUT OUR
POLICIES DON'T TELL US HOW WE'RE
GOING TO GET THERE AND I THINK
THAT'S WHAT WHERE WE MISS OUT
ON. WE SET GOALS, BUT WE DON'T
SAY THAT WE NEED WE NEED MORE
WATER IN CALIFORNIA. WE PASSED
WATER BONDS, BUT WE DON'T BUILD
ANY STORAGE.AND THOSE ARE THE
FRUSTRATING THINGSAS SOMEBODY
WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS
TRYING TO EDUCATE THE
LEGISLATURE ON WHAT'S REALLY
HAPPENING ON THE GROUND AND WHY
CALIFORNIANS ARE SUFFERING AT
THE STORE AND AT THE GAS PUMP
AND ALL THESE THINGS, AND I JUST
WANT TO CLOSE WITH THIS LAST
THING IF ANY OF YOU WATCHED THE
NEWS LAST 24 HOURS. ECUADOR IS
GOING TO STOP OIL PRODUCTION.
BECAUSE OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ARE
FIRED UP AS THEY SHOULD BE,
BECAUSE THEY'RE DESTROYING THE
RAINFOREST, AND THEY'RE ALSO NOT
PAYING THE PEOPLE THEY'RE
RIGHTFULLY D AND I WAS
RESEARCHING THIS MORNING BECAUSE
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OIL
AND CALIFORNIA. 50% OF ECUADOR'S
OIL THAT THEY PRODUCE COMES TO
CALIFORNIA RIGHT HERE. 24% OF
OUR OIL COMES FROM ECUADOR,
WHICH IS DESTROYING THE
RAINFOREST. THERE WAS A PIPELINE
THAT BROKE 16,000 BARRELS OF OIL
WENT INTO IN ENDED UP IN THE
AMAZON. IT GOT IT MADE ITS WAY
TO THE AMAZON RIVER AS WE SIT
HERE ON 1200 OIL WELLS IN
CALIFORNIA AT THE DESK OF YOU
HAVE A NEW, SOME NOT BEING
DRILLED THE MOST SAFEST PLACE
AND WHAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING. I GUESS WE
FEEL GOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE
THE RIVER IN IT. THE AMAZON
RIVER GETTING DESTROYED AND THEN
BUSINESS PEOPLE GETTING THEIR
LIVES RUINED BECAUSE OF THE OIL
PRODUCTION THERE WHEN WE COULD
DO IT HERE, SO IN THESE KINDS OF
THESE TYPES OF LEGISLATION, WE
NEED A PATHWAY TO GET TO SAVE.
NOT ONLY CALIFORNIA, BUT SAVE
THE EARTH IF WE'RE GOING TO
REALLY TALK ABOUT GLOBAL CLIMATE
CHANGE. WE HAVE TO TALK MORE
THAN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WHAT WE
DO IN CALIFORNIA, THE FIFTH
LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD,
AFFECTS WHAT HAPPENS IN ECUADOR
WHEN WE'RE REALLY DESTROYING THE
RAINFOREST, AND WE SHOULD BE
DOING IT HERE. TOÀN MY GOAL IS
TO ACTUALLY GET A PATHWAY TO
WHERE WE DO IT AND KEEP ME IN
BUSINESS AND WE SHOW THE WORLD
HOW TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT WE
CAN STILL SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT
AND KEEP OUR JOBS AND OUR AND
OUR PEOPLE WORKING HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AND PROVIDE A PRODUCT
THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO
PURCHASE THANK YOU. I WILL SAY
THAT I HAVE THE SAME GOAL AND
IT'S A QUALITY PRODUCT MATCHES
THAT OF PRODUCT AND I THINK,
SETTING THE GOALS AND CREATING A
PROCESS THAT INCLUDES OUR
STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING EXPERTS
LIKE YOURSELF. TO COME TO THE
TABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET
THERE IS WITH THIS WHAT I'M
HOPING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS BILL
. UH, AND YOU KNOW, HOPING THAT
THROUGH THIS WORK, WE ALSO GET
BETTER MANAGEMENT OF OUR WATERS
AND OUR SOULS THAT WILL PRODUCE
ARTIST, A BETTER QUALITY BUT A
BETTER BUSINESS FOR YOU, AND FOR
OTHER FOLKS OUT THERE. THE
REALITY IS THAT OUR FARMERS AND
OUR PHARMACY AND HERE IN
CALIFORNIA ARE IMPORTANT AND
THEY'RE JULIAN AND I WANT THEM
TO DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION ON THIS
BILL. THEY CAME ON. I THINK THIS
WEEKEND, BUT I WANT TO ALWAYS
TRY TO FIND A WAY TO FIND COMMON
GROUND WITH THEM. SO I WILL KEEP
THAT THEY'RE OPEN AND HOPE THAT
AS THIS BILL MOVES IF IT MOVES
TODAY THAT WE GET TO A PLACE
THAT MAKES YOU MORE COMFORTABLE.
THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A
NAVAL. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE
EMOTION FROM SENATOR WIECKOWSKI
. SO YOU DID MAKE YOUR CLOTHES.
WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
ITEM NUMBER 6 26 49 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CRISTINA GARCIA
MOTIONS DO PASS, BUT FIRST WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALLEN. BATES NO,
IT'S NO DOLLY DOLLY! NO MCGUIRE
SKINNER ER I STERN WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI. AYE. THAT'S 222 WILL
HOLD THE ROLL OPEN ON THAT AND
MORE MEMBERS PRESENT. THANK YOU.
MAY I MOVE THE PREVIOUS BILL? WE
HAD ALREADY HEARD IT 17 YEAR
MOVING A B 17 49 CORRECT? YES.
COLORADO. ITEM NUMBER FIVE A B
17 49 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CRISTINA GARCIA. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDING RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
ALLEN. ALAN I. BATES. SALLY.
VALLEY NO CHOIR SKINNER SKINNER.
I STERN WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI.
AYE. 321 WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN
ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU. AND
THANK YOU. CHAIR MINUTES HERE.
SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT ON REVIS
HAS TWO BILLS A B 1989. IF IT
TOOK CARE, I WOULD LIKE TO
PROCEED WITH THAT BILL. 1985
SORRY THAT THE ITEM NUMBER 11.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A B 1985
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ROBERT RIVAS
, WHICH WOULD ASSIST LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS IN REACHING THEIR
ORGANIC WASTE DIVERSION GOALS.
BEFORE I BEGIN. I'D LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE ON BEHALF OF THE
AUTHOR THAT HE WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
PROPOSED IN THE ANALYSIS. IN
2016, CALIFORNIA SET AMBITIOUS
TARGETS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
ORGANIC WASTE SENT TO LANDFILLS
BY 50% BY 2020 75% BY 2025 TO
ELIMINATE HARMFUL CLIMATE
POLLUTANTS. AS A RESULT, CITIES
AND COUNTIES ARE NOW REQUIRED TO
PROCURE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
ORGANIZED ORGANIC WASTE PRODUCTS
SUCH AS COMPOST AND MULCH.
HOWEVER, CITIES AND COUNTIES
HAVE STRUGGLED TO MEET THESE
GOALS, IN PART BECAUSE THEY'VE
HAD TROUBLE FINDING USING
AVAILABLE ORGANIC PRODUCTS AND
LACK THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO
PROCESS ORGANIC WASTE PRODUCTS
JUST VOTED ON 1985 ASSISTS LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS AND REACHING THEIR
PROCUREMENT TARGETS BY
REALIGNING PROCUREMENT TIMELINES
AND ALLOWING ORGANIC WEEKS.
PRODUCTS PROCESSED OUT OF STATE
TO COUNT TOWARDS PROCURING GOALS
. THIS IS AH PRAGMATIC BILL AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK MY VOTE. THE
AUTHORS ALSO COMMITTED TO
WORKING WITH CARRIE CYCLE TO TRY
TO ADDRESS THEIR TECHNICAL
CONCERNS. UM WITH ME TO TESTIFY
TODAY IS ERIC DOLPHY WITH THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES. AND
KAYLA ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF
RETHINK WASTE. YOU MAY PROCEED.
YOU'RE WELCOME. HELLO GOOD
MORNING CHAIR ALAN AND MEMBERS
DEREK DOLPHIN BEHALF OF LEGAL
CALIFORNIA CITIES WERE HAPPY TO
BE HERE AND STRONG SUPPORT AS A
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THE 1985 AS
THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JUST SAID,
AND AS ALL OF, YOU KNOW, IN
JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR, ALL
CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE REQUIRED
TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CALORIE
CYCLES TO BE 13 83 ORGANIC WASTE
DIVERSION REGULATIONS WHICH SEEK
TO DIVERT 75% OF ORGANIC WASTE
FROM LANDFILLS. INSTEAD SEND
THEM TO ANAEROBIC DIGESTERS OR
COMPOST FACILITIES TO BE TURNED
INTO THINGS LIKE COMPOST, MULCH
AND RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS,
HOWEVER, DUE TO A NUMBER OF
FACTORS SUCH AS THE COVID 19
PANDEMIC AND DELAYS IN
FINALIZING THE REGULATIONS AND A
LACK OF ORGANIC WASTE RECYCLING
INFRASTRUCTURE, LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE STILL WORKING
HARD TO GET INTO FULL
COMPLIANCE. 1995 WILL PRIMARILY
HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO THIS
BY PROVIDING A TWO YEAR PHASE IN
TOWARDS FULL COMPLIANCE OF THOSE
PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS IN THE
REGULATIONS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS
LACK OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE CO
SPONSORS OF THIS BILL HAVE
WORKED HARD TO ENSURE THAT THE
PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL WILL NOT
CHANGE THE ULTIMATE OUTCOMES OF
THE GOALS SET FORTH AND 13 83,
NOR WILL THEY STOP THE PROGRESS
TOWARDS FULL COMPLIANCE.
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. WE HAVE
HAD VERY PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH CALORIE CYCLE
AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING
WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THIS BILL
AS IT MOVES FORWARD AND THANK
THEM FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT WOULD
ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND
THANK THIS BODY AS WELL AS THE
ASSEMBLY AND THE BUDGET STAFFER,
INCLUDING 180 MILLION IN THE
BUDGET THIS YEAR TOWARDS SP 13
3. LOCAL ASSISTANCE GRANT
PROGRAMS FOR CITIES AND
COUNTIES. WILL WE BELIEVE THAT
THIS FUNDING COMBINED WITH THIS
BILL WILL GO A LONG WAY TO
HELPING CITIES AND COUNTIES
IMPLEMENT THE SP 30 SB 13 83
REGULATIONS AS QUICKLY AND AS
EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
CALIFORNIA CITIES ARE ABSOLUTELY
COMMITTED TO IMPLEMENTING THIS
IMPORTANT PIECE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE EMISSION REDUCTION
LEGISLATION, AND THIS BILL WILL
TAKE A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARDS
HELPING CITIES MEET THE TARGETS
OUTLINED IN THE REGULATIONS BY
GRANTING SOME COMMON SENSE
CHANGES TO BETTER REFLECT THE
CURRENT SITUATION IN CALIFORNIA.
WE'D LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA FOR
PRESENTING THE BILL ON BEHALF OF
THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ROBERT RIVAS TODAY AND THANK HIM
AND HIS STAFF AS WELL AS THE
SENATE STAFF AND MY FELLOW CO
SPONSORS FOR ALL THEIR GREAT
WORK ON THIS BILL. WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE AND
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
RECOGNIZING THE HARD WORK OF ART
EVER GREAT COMMITTEE STAFF. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
KAYLA ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF
RETHINK WASTE, A WASTE
MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY, BASED IN
SAN MATEO COUNTY AND ON THE
GROUND IMPLEMENTER OF SB 13 93
ON BEHALF OF OUR 11 MEMBER
AGENCIES RETHINK WASTE HAS BEEN
A LEADER IN DIVERTING ORGANIC
MATERIAL AND ROLLED OUT OUR
FIRST ORGANIC WASTE DIVERSION
PROGRAM BACK IN 2011. WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE MISSION AND
GOALS OF SP 13 83, AND WE WORKED
DILIGENTLY OVER THE LAST FEW
YEARS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR CLIMATE
CRISIS CALLS FOR SWIFT ACTION,HOWEVER, AS DEREK MENTIONED THE
REQUIREMENTS OF SB 13 83 TO
PROCURE ORGANIC WASTE PRODUCTS
HAVE PRESENTED UNIQUE COST
MARKET AND INFRASTRUCTURE
CHALLENGES FOR US. WE'RE PROUD
TO SAY THAT A B 1985 BROUGHT
TOGETHER ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS,
WASTE HAULERS AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TOUR COLLABORATIVE
COLLABORATIVELY WITH CARA CYCLE
TO OFFER SOME RELIEF ON SB 13 83
WITHOUT UNDERMINING ITS SPIRIT,
AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO
CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION. I
RESPECTFULLY URGE AND I VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO FOLKS
WANT TO ADD ON AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. CAL CAP CATHERINE
FREEMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, QUINCY JOHNSTON ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE AS A PROUD CO SPONSOR AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ALRIGHT ANYONE ON THE
PHONE LINES MODERATOR WHO WANT
TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR SP 1985? TO
VOICE SUPPORT ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WILL OPEN LINE 41. GOOD MORNING
. THIS IS JESSICA GALLAGHER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
SANITATION AGENCIES AND SUPPORT
BLIND 73. POINT HERE MEMBERS
SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? THE WESTERN
QUESTION WASTE MANAGEMENT
AUTHORITIES STOP WASTE AND
ALWAYS ASSOCIATION OF NORTH
AMERICA IN SUPPORTING CONCEPT
AND APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S WORK
ON THIS, BILL. THANK YOU. LINE
36. MR TARYN MEMBERS TO SECURING
GREEN WITH THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT. WE
HAVE A SUPPORT IF AMENDED
POSITION. THANK YOU. LINE 76.
GOOD MORNING KAREN MEMBER. THE
LIST IS STILL HIGH ON BEHALF OF
THE CITIES OF REDWOOD CITY AND
SANTA ROSA AND SUPPORT THE
LEARNING OUR COMMENTS WITH THANK
YOU. LINE 77. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE SAFETY
HEATING WITH THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. WE HAVE NO FURTHER
LINES IN CUBA AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S NOW
GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
VOICE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILL. I
DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE ANY
LEAD WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. WE
ACTUALLY BELIEVE THERE'S ANY
REGISTERED OPPOSITION. BUT
ANYONE HEAR ANYONE ON THE PHONE
LINES MODERATOR WHO LIKE TO
VOICE OPPOSITION TO OUR CONCERNS
ABOUT MAYBE 1985. SPEAKING
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE NO LINES
QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME. OKAY
ALL RIGHT. LET'S BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE. QUESTIONS
THOUGHTS, COMMENTS. I SEE
SENATOR CASKEY. IT WAS IRONIC
THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR
BILL ABOUT NATURAL WORKING LANDS
AND THE PROBLEMS THAT FARMERS
HAVE AND ONE OF THE ANSWERS IS
ALL RIGHT. MULCHING OF LAND
THERE WERE FINDING THAT THE
MISSISSIPPI ALTES AND COUNTIES
DON'T HAVE A MARKET. THIS IS A
THIS IS A LAUDABLE GOAL WHEN OUR
COLLEAGUE SENATOR LARA
INTRODUCED A BILL IN 2015, BUT
ONCE AGAIN MAKING IT WORK, AND
PROBABLY THE ASSISTANCE OF THE
STATE IS GIVING FOR THE
IMPLEMENTATION IS A LITTLE BIT
TOO LATE, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S
FUNDING THAT'S GOING THERE. ONE
OF THE QUESTIONS IS REASON STEPH
ANALYSIS IS THE AND I SEE THE
BENEFIT OF ALLOWING OUT OF STATE
PROCESSORS TO PROCESS THE
ORGANIC MATERIAL SO THAT WE CAN
HELP REACH THIS GOAL, BUT THEN
NOT AT THE AT THE EXPENSE OF
HAVING THESE CALIFORNIA MADE
COMPOSTING AND ANAEROBIC
DIGESTERS. BUILT. THERE'S A LINE
THERE. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? YES
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. SO IN
OUR OPINION, IT'S REALLY ABOUT
THE BORDER CITIES THAT THAT
STRUGGLE WITH THIS ISSUE, AND SO
WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
ACCOMMODATE FOR RIGHT ON THE
BORDER, AND MAYBE THERE'S A
FACILITY SAY IN OREGON OR IN
NEVADA OR IN ARIZONA, WHERE YOU
MIGHT WANT TO. GET YOUR PRODUCT
OVER THERE AND THEN GET IT BACK.
IT ACTUALLY COULD, FROM A GHD
PERSPECTIVE. JUST BE BETTER THAT
WE'RE NOT TRANSPORTING FROM, YOU
KNOW, TOP OF CALIFORNIA ALL THE
WAY TO THE BOTTOM. THANKS. VERY
GOOD, OKAY? GOOD BILL, OKAY?
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MOTION
SOMETHING YOU MAKE CLOTHES,
RESPECTFULLY. ASPIRIN. I VOTE
THANK YOU. SECRETARY. PLEASE
CALL ROLL. ITEM NUMBER 11 A B
1985 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ROBERT RIVAS MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDED.
WE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALAN BATES.
ALRIGHT I DALI DALI I MCGUIRE
SKINNER ICE TURN. WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI. AYE. ALRIGHT LET'S
UH LET'S THANK YOU. I THINK WE
GOT FIVE VOTES. THERE'S STILL A
MEMBER TO THEY'RE NOT HERE. SO
LEAVE THAT ROLE OPEN FOR THEM TO
ADD ON AND I GUESS YOU'RE ALSO
GOING TO PRESENT A B 21. OH,
SIX. THIS IS ITEM 12. YOU MAY
PROCEED. YES BEFORE I BEGIN. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ON BEHALF OF
THE AUTHOR THAT HE WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. PROPOSING THE
ANALYSIS. KB 21 OH, SIX BY
ROBERT RIVAS MODERNIZES OUR
APPROACH TO STORM WATERS, THE
BIGGEST SOURCE OF WATER
POLLUTION IN CALIFORNIA TODAY.
I'M ACTUALLY A JOINT AUTHOR WITH
THIS BILL. STORM WATER WATER
THAT RUNS OFF ROOFS, SIDEWALKS
AND OTHER PAID SERVICES WHEN IT
RAINS, AND THAT ACCUMULATED
TOXIC COCKTAIL OF OILS, HEAVY
METALS FURTHER LIES OR TRASH.
AND OTHER SUBSTANCES BEFORE
ENDING UP IN THE NEAREST
WATERWAY IN MY DISTRICT, MY HOME
SINCE BETWEEN THE SAN GABRIEL
AND THE LOSS ANGELES RIVER,
THERE ARE ONE OF MY COMMUNITIES,
FEE AREAS OF OPEN SPACE, AND
MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS USE THE
RIVER FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. A
RIVER. IT'S A BUNCH OF CONCRETE.
AH I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A
FALSE SENSE WITH NO TREES, BUT
THE DRAINAGE BASINS ARE HOW
STORMWATER RUNOFF ESCAPES THE
CITIES AND FLOWS INTO THE OCEAN.
BUT THEY'RE HEAVILY CONTAMINATED
WITH TOXIC OF COCKTAIL OF COPPER
, KTM SINK LED OIL AND DANGEROUS
BACTERIA AND TRASH. AS A RESULT
, WE'RE NOT ACHIEVING OUR WATER
QUALITY GOALS IN COMMUNITIES
LIKE THIS AND ARE NOT ON TRACK
TO DO SO, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MOST
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. THERE
HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND
PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN DONE, BUT
IT HAS BEEN FELT EQUITABLY.
ACROSS THE STATE, AND THAT'S
WHAT THIS BILL AIMS TO DO. AH
WITH THAT TO TESTIFY. WE HAVE
SEAN BOTHWELL WITH CALIFORNIA
COAST KEEPERS ALLIANCE AND THEN
COPY WITH THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC
BALANCE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN I VOTE. OKAY. YOU MAY PROCEED
. MORNING, CHAIRING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS, SEAN BARTHWELL WITH
CALIFORNIA COAST KEEPER LANCE
WITH THE SPONSOR FOR THE BILL.
THIS BILL CAME ABOUT LAST YEAR
OVER THE FALL. WE HAD EXTENSIVE
MEETINGS WITH THE REGULATED
COMMUNITY STORMWATER PERMIT.
HE'SREALLY TRYING TO COME UP
WITH AREAS OF COMMON GROUND AND
COLLABORATION. AND SO YOU'LL SEE
IN THE BILL. THERE'S A LOT OF
STUFF IN THERE. ACTUALLY FOUR
PERMITS THESE COSTS OF
COMPLIANCE, REDUCING THAT
STREAMLINING PERMITS AND
REPORTING SOURCE CONTROL LOOKING
FOR STORMWATER FUNDING. THERE'S
A LOT OF COLLABORATION AND
REALLY THE KEY WAS AREAS WHERE
WE HAD COMMON GROUND, AND WE
REALLY PROUD THAT WE HAVE
STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE REGULATED
COMMUNITY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. AS TO THE OPPOSITION. A
LOT OF THE REMAINING CONCERNS
STILL EXIST AROUND THE
COMMERCIAL STORMWATER PERMIT
THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DISCUSS
WITH THE OPPOSITION, UM THE
INTENT OF THAT COMMERCIAL
STORMWATER PERMIT IS REALLY TO
PROVIDE AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD
FOR ALL PERMIT EASE. RIGHT NOW.
THE INDUSTRIAL STORMWATER FOLKS
MUNICIPALS DON'T WANT TO FOLKS
BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE BURDEN OF
REGULATING STORMWATER AND
CONTROLLING IT. WHILE COMMERCIAL
PROPERTIES. THERE'S A LOT OF
EVIDENCE OUT THERE, PARTICULARLY
FOR LARGE PARKING LOTS. FIVE
ACRES ARE GREATER THAT THERE ARE
SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR OF
METALS OIL GREASE TO OUR
WATERWAYS, BUT YET THEY'RE
COMPLETELY UNREGULATED RIGHT
NOW. AND THE IDEA BEHIND THE
PERMIT WOULD BE TO EVEN THE
PLAYING FIELD AND ENCOURAGE
STORM WATER CAPTURE AND PROVIDE
COLLABORATION BETWEEN EXISTING
STORMWATER PERMIT EASE AND THOSE
COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS GO A LONG
WAY TO ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE
CONCERNS. ONE BEING TRYING TO
PUT A SOME GUARD RAILS IF YOU
WILL, ON ON THE SIZE OF THE
FACILITY THAT WOULD BE
REGULATED. THERE'S A LOS ANGELES
PERMIT ABOUT TO COME OUT THAT'S
GOING TO REGULATE PARKING LOTS.
FIVE ACRES ARE GREATER WE PUT IN
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
PROVIDED NEXUS THAT THERE NEEDS
TO BE A SHOWING THAT THERE IS A
SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION BEFORE
THEY'RE BEING REGULATED. THE
SECOND ISSUE IS PROVIDING
MULTIPLE PATHWAYS TO COMPLIANCE
. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN
FROM PRIMITIVES OVER CITIZENS
SUED ENFORCEMENT. THE NEW
AMENDMENTS WOULD ALLOW FOR
MULTIPLE PATHWAYS SO THAT THERE
IS AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE AND
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY
MEET WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AT
THE END OF PIPE AND LASTLY, WORK
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
COMMERCIAL FOLKS. THE CAL
CHAMBER FOLKS. ON ONGOING
AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS THEIR
CONCERNS AND REALLY SET THEM UP
FOR SUCCESS WHEN THIS PERMIT
GETS ADOPTED, SO I'M HERE FOR
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT AS
FOR YOUR RIVAL, THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS DON KEPT KEY WITH MCCUE
KEP KEE AND ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC
BALANCE. ALSO PLEASED TO BE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 21. OH, SIX AS
AMENDED AND AS PROPOSED TO BE
AMENDED. AGREEING WITH THE PRIOR
WITNESS. CIB IN PARTICULAR,
BELIEVES THIS BILL DOES HELP TO
PROVID SOME MEASURE OF SHARED
RESPONSIBILITY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY, HELPING TO LEVEL
THE PLAYING FIELD FOR THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES
TO POLLUTANTS THAT COULD IMPACT
STORMWATER RUNOFF. WE DO
SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR
AND SPONSORS AS WELL. WORKING
WITH US CLOSELY TO ADDRESS A
NUMBER OF THE ISSUES THAT MR
BOTHWELL MENTIONED, INCLUDING
AMENDMENTS TO CLARIFY THAT
FACILITY CAN'T FALL UNDER
MULTIPLE PERMITS BUT WOULD BE
RESPONSIVE TO JUST ONE
ADDITIONALLY, CEB ALSO VERY
STRONGLY SUPPORTS PROVISIONS
WITHIN THE BILLTHAT SPEAK TO
MODERNIZING THE STATE'S
REPORTING SYSTEM AND DATA UNDER
THE SMART SYSTEM, AS WELL AS
ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COST
IMPACTS THAT PERMIT IS OFTEN
FIND THEMSELVES RESPONSIBLE FOR
THAT DO NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDE
KIND OF BENEFICIAL WATER QUALITY
OUTCOMES, BUT REALLY JUST ACT AS
ADDITIONAL BURDENS FOR THE
REGULATED COMMUNITY. FOR THOSE
REASONS, STEVE IS PLEASED TO BE
SUPPORTIVE OF A B 21. OH, SIX
AND APPRECIATES YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. HMM
ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ADD ON AND
SUPPORT FOR 21? OH, SIX. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. I'M
AARON EVANS ON BEHALF OF THE
SANTA CLARA VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT. ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY LET'S GO TO
THE PHONE LINES WHO WANTS TO
RAISE CONCERNS? WE WANT TO VOICE
SUPPORT FOR 21. OH, SIX ON THE
PHONE LINES. TO AVOID SUPPORT.
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WILL OPEN LINE 25 1ST GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS. RICHARD KILLED ON
BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA WATER AGENCIES
SUPPORT THANK YOU. SIGNED 43.
GOOD MORNING, DANIEL BRAD ON
BEHALF OF HERE CLUB, CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT LINE 79. AMBER
SANDALWOOD TREND PRICE
CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
IN SUPPORT. BLIND 60. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS CHRISTINE NORTHROP ON BEHALF
OF COASTAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
RIGHTS FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT OF
BABY 21. OH, SIX. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN Q AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. I
KNOW WE HAVE ON THE CO HOST LINE
. KAREN COWAN FROM THE
CALIFORNIA STORMWATER QUALITY
ASSOCIATION, AND THEN HERE IN
PERSON, BRENDA BASS FROM THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE START
WITH YOU, KAREN. YEAH THAT WOULD
BE GREAT. GOOD MORNING. KAREN
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS KAREN COWEN
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTING THE CITY'S COUNTY
AND STATE AGENCIES, ANOTHER
PERMITTING WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED
BY THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION. WE
HAVE SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THAT
WERE SPEAKING FOR THE STILL
THICKLY FACILITIES REQUIRE WHAT
IS TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE FIRST
IN THE NATION STATE WIDE PERMIT
FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL
INSTITUTIONAL FACILITIES AT THE
II PERMIT. CURRENTLY THESE
FACILITIES ARE EXEMPTED UNDER
THE CLEAN WATER ACT IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA, DOES NOT YET HAVE
THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THE
REQUESTED PERMIT. THEREFORE,
WE'RE ASKING THAT THE BILL IS
CONTINGENT UPON THE STATE HAVING
THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THE
PERMIT. WE'REALSO ASKING FOR
ADEQUATE TIME TO CREATE THE
FIRST OF ITS KIND PERMIT IN THE
UNITED STATES. WELL THERE IS A
PERMIT UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT
THAT WOULD APPLY TO WATERSHEDS
IN L. A. THAT PERMIT HAS NOT YET
BEEN RELEASED FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT, NOR HAS IT BEEN ADOPTED
OR IMPLEMENTED. THEREFORE, THERE
ARE NO LESSONS LEARNED OR MODELS
THAT EXISTED CRAFT THAT THEY
WENT PERMIT. CALIFORNIA WILL BE
LEAVING THE NATION. THE BILL
CURRENTLY REQUIRES THE ISSUANCE
OF A DRAFT ORDER. WE ARE ASKING
FOR THE BILL TO INSTEAD REQUIRE
THE COMMENCEMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKSHOP. RATHER THAN THE
ISSUANCE OF DRAFT ORDER. THIS
CHANGE WOULD ALLOW THE WATERSHED
SKILL PERMITS TO SERVE AS A
PILOT, AS WELL AS TO ENSURE ITS
REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT IN CONFLICT
WITH OTHER STATEWIDE PERMITS FOR
CONTEXT, THE TIMEFRAME TO RENEW
AND EXISTING STATEWIDE PERMANENT
GENERALLY 3 TO 5 YEARS. IT WILL
SIMPLY TAKE TIME TO ESTABLISH
GOOD PUBLIC POLICY THROUGH THE
STATEWIDE PERMIT. WE'RE ALSO
REQUESTING THAT THE BILL IS
CONTINGENT UPON APPROPRIATION.
CURRENTLY ALL COSTS OF
IMPLEMENTING THESE WATER QUALITY
PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED EXCLUSIVELY
THROUGH PERMIT FEES IN BETWEEN
ONE AND SIX IS A MULTI MILLION
DOLLAR PROGRAMMATIC INCREASE IN
THE ENTIRETY OF THAT COST WILL
BE PASSED THROUGH THE SUPREMACY.
INCLUDING CITIES AND COUNTIES,
WHO LACK RATEPAYERS TO RECOVER
THESE SEATS. THE MANDATE IS
CREATED BY THE LEGISLATURE. THEN
WE'RE ASKING THAT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA SHOULD FIND ITS
IMPLEMENTATION RATHER THAN
PASSING ACROSS THE CITY AND
COUNTY. FOR THESE REASONS, WE
RESPECTFULLY AFTER THE BILL IS
AMENDED TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES
AND THE OTHERS RATES IN OUR
COMMON LETTER TO THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. OKAY? LET'S NOW HEAR
FROM BRENDA. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I'M BRENDA BASS
WITH THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND WE HAVE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE A B 21. OH,
SIX, UM THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
ARE A WAY TO START OR BEGIN TO
START ADDRESSING SOME OF OUR
MAIN CONCERNS, WHICH ARE THE
RISK OF LITIGATION AND THE
UNDEFINED SCOPE OF ENTITIES THAT
WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE
PROPOSED PERMIT, BUT I'D ALSO
LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND,
UH, JUST REMIND THE COMMITTEE
THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
INDUSTRIAL STORMWATER AND
MUNICIPAL STORMWATER HAVE BEEN
REGULATED IS BECAUSE THOSE
ENTITIES ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED
OUT. IN THE FEDERAL CLEAN WATER
ACT. SO CONGRESS TOLD THE STATE
THAT THEY HAVE TO REGULATE THESE
ENTITIES, AND THEY DID NOT DO
THE SAME WITH COMMERCIAL. AH
STORM WATER DISCHARGES, SO
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
DIFFERENCE. AND I WOULD ALSO
LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU
KNOW, TYPICALLY, UM COMMERCIAL
ENTITIES HAVE SOME SORT OF
REGULATORY RELATIONSHIP SAVI
STORMWATER WITH THEIR COUNTY OR
CITY, WHICH THEY YOU KNOW,
TYPICALLY WOULD DISCHARGE THEIR
STORM WATER INTO THE STORM WATER
SYSTEM. SO I WOULD, I GUESS NOT
AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT
THESE DISCHARGES ARE COMPLETELY
UNREGULATED. THEY'RE JUST
DIFFERENTLY. REGULATED. UM AND
SO OUR BIGGEST CONCERN REALLY IS
THE RISK OF LITIGATION. THE
FEDERAL CLEAN WATER ACT INCLUDES
A CITIZEN LAWSUIT PROVISION,
MEANING THAT THIRD PARTIES CAN
SUE FOR ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF
PERMITS. SO THIS IS A
SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE TO
BUSINESSES WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW,
CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT EXPOSED
TO THIS TYPE OF LITIGATION. UM
AND THERE'S AN EXISTING INDUSTRY
OF CLEAN WATER ACT. CITIZEN
LAWSUITS ARE FILED AGAINST
INDUSTRIAL STORMWATER PERMIT
TEAS. AND SUDDENLY EVEN SETTLING
THESE DISPUTES, NOT TO MENTION
LITIGATING THEM CAN COST TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. UM, SO YOU
KNOW. THE AMENDMENTS THAT
REQUIRE MULTIPLE MEANS OF
COMPLIANCE MAY REDUCE THE RISK
THE TIME ENTITIES ARE REQUIRED
TO COMPLY WITH A PERMIT, THERE
ARE INDEED OPTIONS ON THE GROUND
THAT ALLOW PERMIT EASE TO COMPLY
BY PARTICIPATING IN A DIFFERENT
PROGRAM RATHER THAN MEETING
WATER QUALITY OBJECTIVES. AT THE
EDGE OF THEIR FACILITY. UM SO.
THAT'S KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHT OF
OUR CONCERNS HERE AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU, BRENDA. LET'S GO. IF ANYONE
ELSE WANTS TO ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION OR WANT TO RAISE
CONCERNS HERE IN PERSON. LET'S
GO TO THE PHONE LINES. THIS IS A
B 21. OH SIX WHO WANTS TO RAISE
CONCERNS OR OPPOSITION? THANK
YOU FOR YOUR POSITION. YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. WE WERE
GOING TO LINE 75. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GOOD MORNING CAROL MEMBERS
. REBECCA BASKINS ON BEHALF OF
WESTERN PLANT HEALTH ASSOCIATION
AND CALIFORNIA GROCERS
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION AND
ALIGN OUR COMMENTS WITH THE
CHAMBER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT TO THE LINE 36. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE SHARON GREENE
WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS. WE DO HAVE
AN OPPOSING RECOMMENDED POSITION
AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING
TO WORK WITH THE SPONSORS AND
AUTHOR. UM TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THOSE CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY
REGARDING THE PERMIT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT TO THE LINE 28.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. THIS IS
FAREWELL STRONG WITH THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY BUSINESS
FEDERATION AND ALLIANCE OVER 200
BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS THAT
REPRESENT OVER 400,000 EMPLOYERS
IN L. A COUNTY WERE IN
OPPOSITION TO 21 86. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT LET'S GO BRING THIS BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE. SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. I WAS GONNA GET
GRANULAR BUT I THINK I'M GOING
TO PULL IT BACK. IN IT, AND I
SHOULD KNOW THIS AND I APOLOGIZE
BECAUSE I DON'T BUT IN THE
STORMWATER POLLUTION WORLD WHAT
ARE THE WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN
BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL SOURCES.
MUNICIPAL SOURCES, CONSTRUCTION
AND NOW COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN
THE BIG PICTURE. HOW MUCH OF THE
POLLUTION ARE WE TALKING ABOUT
IN THE COMMERCIAL ROOFTOP
PARKING LOT? ETCETERA. SICK
COMPARING THE EXISTING PERMIT
EASE TO COMMERCIAL FOLKS THAT
THE QUESTION SO IT'S A THERE'S
IT DEPENDS ON THE POLLUTANT.
LIKE I SAID, MEDALS OIL GREASE,
SPECIFICALLY LOOKING IN THE LOS
ANGELES AREA. THE REASON LOS
ANGELES IS A FOCUS AREA IS
THAT'S WHERE THERE WAS AN
EXISTING PETITION. THERE WAS A
LAWSUIT, THE COURT DECIDED THERE
DID NEED TO BE A PERMIT. THAT
PERMITS ABOUT TO COME OUT. IT
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT ALREADY.
BUT IT SHOULD BE OUT NEXT WEEK.
SO THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE'S KIND
OF REFERRINGTO, BUT THERE WERE
ESTIMATES OF THOSE TYPE OF
POLLUTANTS BEING A VERY
SIGNIFICANT SOURCE, DEPENDING ON
THE AREA COVERED 60 TO 80% OF
LIKE THAT. ONE POLLUTANT THEY'RE
SAYING WAS CONTRIBUTED BY THE
COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND RIGHT
NOW, THOSE MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES
ARE THE ONES ON THE HOOK AND
RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. VERSUS THE
NON MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES.
PRIVATE PARKING LOTS OR PRIVATE
. CORRECT RIGHT NOW. PRIVATE
LARGE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS
ARE RUNNING OFF INTO THE
MUNICIPAL SYSTEM, AND THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE NOW ON THE HOOK
FOR THAT POLLUTION AND NOT THE
COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO IT SEEMS
TO ME THAT THE MODEL THAT WE'RE
USING IS THE L. A PERMIT, AT
LEAST FOR GROUND PARKING LOTS AT
FIVE ACRES AND BECAUSE THE
AMENDMENTS ARE ACTING ASKING FOR
A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION,
RIGHT, SO THE. FOR ROOFTOPS AND
THE OTHER. POTENTIAL POLLUTING
AREAS. WHAT'S THE SORT OF GOING
TO END THE BALLPARK FIGURE? WHAT
DO WE WHAT TYPE OF SIZE WE'RE
LOOKING FOR WHERE SOMEBODY IS
GOING TO BE PUT INTO THIS
PROCESS? YES. SO WE TRIED TO
NUANCE THE LANGUAGE TO GIVE THE
WATER BOARD THE DISCRETION BASED
ON THE EVIDENCE TO ADJUST THE
SIZE THRESHOLD, THE EPA IN LOS
ANGELES LOOKED AT THE FACTS ON
THE GROUND AND THE EVIDENCE WE
HAD BEFORE THEM AND THOUGHT THAT
A FIVE ACRE THRESHOLD FOR
UNPERMITTED IMPERVIOUS SURFACES
WAS THERE WAS COMPELLING
EVIDENCE THAT THAT WAS CAUSING
IMPAIRMENTS IN LARGE POLLUTION
IN THE LOS ANGELES AREA, SO WE
TRIED TO THAT LANGUAGE, BY THE
WAY COMES EXCEPT FROM EXISTING
FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT THAT'S
THE LANGUAGE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE
A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION, AND
SO IT PUTS SOME BOUNDARIES FOR
THE WATERBOARD, BUT THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE FINDINGS
EVIDENTIARY FINDINGS THAT TIES
THE WHATEVER THE THRESHOLD LIMIT
IS TO THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY
HAVE BEFORE THEM TO JUSTIFY THAT
LIMIT. SO IF I CAN MAKE A
COMPARISON TO CONSTRUCTION SITES
, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE
HAVE THE LAW. THE LAW IS AS IT
IS. I THINK ONE OF THE CRITICISM
IS THAT THE WE REQUIRE EACH AND
EVERY CONSTRUCTION SITE TO HAVE
A BARRIER AROUND THEIR FACILITY
OR THE CONSTRUCTION SITE HAVE
YOU KNOW TO TRAP ANY WATER?
OFTEN THESE ARE IN ARID LAND
WHERE THEY CONSTRUCTION SITES
ONLY GOING TO GO ON FOR THREE
MONTHS, AND THERE'S 30.0% THAT
THERE BE ANY RAIN ANY
PRECIPITATION, AND THEY SEND IN
FAXES TO SOMEPLACE AND NOBODY
KNOWS WHERE THEY GO. SO THERE'S
A THERE'S A COMPLAINT THAT
THERE'S THERE IS AN OVERBURDEN
SENTIMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY
IF THAT'S THE REGULATIONS.
ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE WE REQUIRE
PEOPLE TO REPORT AND SOMETIMES
THERE'S NO RAIN THAT'S COMING.
THAT WOULD DO THAT. BUT I GET
THE CONSTRUCTION IS MORE OF A
TEMPORARY IT MAY BE COSTLY AND
FOLKS WOULD THINK IT'S NOT
NECESSARY, BUT FOR A PARKING
LOT. HOW DOES SOMEBODY REMEDY
THAT THAT THERE MAY BE? LET'S
SAY IT'S OVER FIVE ACRES AND
SOLVE THAT? ARE WE PUTTING IN
SAND. BAGS AROUND AROUND THE END
SO THAT WE CAPTURE WE CREATED A
LAKE, AND THEN WE REMOVED THAT
THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T GET INTO THE
STORM WATER SYSTEM BECAUSE AGAIN
, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A TEMPORARY
SITUATION OR OR HEAVEN FORBID
THAT YOU WOULD JUST PERCOLATE
DEBT OILING IN THEN HEAVY METALS
AND HAVE IT GO RIGHT INTO THE
GROUND WATER, SO I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHERE WERE THE THIS
IS A PROBLEM. BUT WHAT ARE YOU?
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO WHEN
IT'S A PERMANENT VERSUS A
TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? I
WOULD AGREE THAT CONSTRUCTION IS
KIND OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAT
IT'S A TEMPORARY ISSUE. THE
COMPLIANCE OPTIONS THAT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS ARE TAKING
TO HAVE MULTIPLE ONES. BUT
SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT'S COMING OUT
IN THE LOS ANGELES PERMIT. THIS
IS ALSO IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S IN
THE INDUSTRIAL STORMWATER
PERMIT. RIGHT NOW. IT PROVIDES
THREE PATHWAYS TO COMPLIANCE.
THE FIRST ONE IS MISS KEP KEE
MENTIONED JUST MEETING STANDARDS
AT THE END OF PIPE AND THEY YOU
CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT
WHATEVER BMP IT IS AND SO REALLY
DEPENDS ON THE POLLUTANT YOU PUT
IN A SPECIFIC BEST MANAGEMENT
PRACTICE TO CONTROL THAT AND
FILTER IT OUT. THAT'S HOW A LOT
OF INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES DO IT.
NOW I THINK WHY FOLKS ARE
EXCITED ABOUT THIS MOVEMENT TO
THIS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL
INSTITUTIONAL PERMIT. IS WE'RE
REALLY TRYING TO PUSH FOR MORE
COLLABORATION AND STORM WATER
CAPTURE, AND SO THE THREE
OPTIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT IN
THE LOS ANGELES PERMIT IS MEET
COMPLIANCE AT THEEND OF PIPE TO
IS TO BUILD INFILTRATION ON THE
PARKING LOT PROPERTY. AND
THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS RIGHT
NOW.
ORANGE-COUNTY-REGISTER-TOO-SOON-COUNTY-VOTE-CENTERS
CREDITS TO FOLKS UPSTREAM TO
THEN DISCHARGE INTO THEIR STORM
WATER, SO THERE'S WE FEEL LIKE
THERE'S A LOT OF LOW HANGING
FRUIT IN THOSE COMMERCIAL
PARKING LOTS AND THEN THE THIRD
OPTION. WE'RE ALSO EXCITED ABOUT
THIS. IS THE OPTION TO JUST PAY
THE MUNICIPALITY TO DO A MORE
CENTRALIZED REGIONAL BMP. SO FOR
EXAMPLE, IN LOS ANGELES, WE HAVE
ALL THESE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT
TO BUILD ALL THIS STORM WATER
CAPTURE IN GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE
IN LOS ANGELES, BUT THERE'S NOT
THE FUNDING TO DO IT THAT WE
HAVE MEASURED W BUT THAT'S STILL
NOT SUFFICIENT. PROP 2 18 STANDS
IN THE WAY OF MUNICIPALITIES
BEING ABLE TO RAISE THESE FUNDS.
THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE WAY FOR
THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IF THEY
WANTED TO, TO, UH, PARTNER WITH
THE MUNICIPALITY AND PAY INTO
THAT REGIONAL FUND, SO THAT NOT
ONLY DOES THE MUNICIPAL PROPERTY
OR PERMITTED TO GET THEIR
PROJECT BUILT TO ADJUST THEIR
LIABILITY, BUT IT ALSO ADDRESSES
THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES LIKE
THE OPPOSITION IS TALKING ABOUT
THAT. AT LEAST THE STORMWATER
PEOPLE OPPOSITION IS SAYING,
HEY, LISTEN NORMALLY TO DO THIS
. THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PROCESS TO
DO THE PERMITTING. WE SHOULD DO
SOME WORKSHOPS. YOU DON'T HAVE
AN APPROPRIATION HERE. UM, YOU
KNOW, BIO SWELLS ARE GREAT IDEA
. YOU KNOW, I PROMISE NOT TO
WALK THROUGH THEM, YOU KNOW, BUT
I GET IT SO THAT THAT THAT'S
MORE OF A TECHNICAL OF OBJECTION
TO SAYING WAIT A MINUTE. WE
CAN'T JUST DEMAND THIS WEEK.
IT'S ELLA'S EVEN TAKEN A LONG
PROCESS PART OF THEIR THING.
WHAT DO YOU I DON'T KNOW IF WE
ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED THEIR
OBJECT OF OPPOSITION. JUST A
COUPLE OF THOSE POINTS, SO ONE
WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH EPA
AND THE STATE WATER BOARD ABOUT
THE TIMING AND THERE'S NOT BEEN
ANY OBJECTION TO THEM GETTING
THIS DONE IN THATTIME FRAME. I
WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE
BILL ONLY REQUIRES A DRAFT TO BE
PUT OUT ON THE STREET AND FOR
THE PUBLIC PROCESS TO START. THE
WATER BOARDS CAN HAVE WORKSHOPS
BEFORE THAT, BUT WE JUST WANTED
TO SEE A DRAFT OUT ON THE
STREET. IF THE L A PERMIT IF
THERE'S HICCUPS, OR IF THERE'S
PRO, UNFORESEEN PROBLEMS THAT WE
CAN'T FORESEE. RIGHT NOW,
THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS BILL
THAT REQUIRES THE STATE BOARD TO
ADOPT. THE FINAL PERMIT AT ANY
DATE. THEY CAN KEEP POSTPONING
IT UNTIL THEY WORK IT OUT, AND
THEY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN L
A. AND THEY CAN WORK OUT THOSE
ISSUES. AND I WOULD AGREE THAT
THE PROCESS DOES TAKE YOU KNOW 3
TO 5 YEARS, BUT WE'RE
ESSENTIALLY SAYING IT DOESN'T
NEED TO START I DON'T KNOW WHERE
YOU ARE MORE YEARS, AND WHEN
I'VE SPOKEN TO THE STATE WATER
BOARD, THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT
PERMIT IN PLACE. THE LOS ANGELES
PERMIT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. A
LOT OF THE WORK'S ALREADY BEEN
DONE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S
GOING TO BE YOU KNOW THEY'RE
JUST GOING TO RUBBER STAMP THAT
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK
STATEWIDE. AND SO THERE ARE
THINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINK
THROUGH. BUT THEY HAVE THREE
YEARS TO THINK THROUGH. HOW THAT
L. A PERMIT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN
WRITTEN WILL APPLY STATEWIDE,
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONCERNS
FROM THE AGENCIES. GREAT MR
CHAIR. THAT'S ALL. I HAVE. JUST
COINCIDENTALLY, I WOULD SAY THAT
THE SENATE CLIMATE PACKAGE ON
THE TRIAL PROVISION WOULD
PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THIS TYPE OF
THING, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST
STILL AN IDEA HERE IN THE SENATE
SIDE. OKAY WELL, I KNOW I KNOW
YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT. OKAY
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
FOR THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS
FROM THE MEMBERS MOVED TO BILL.
ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S BEEN MOVED.
YOU MAKE CLOTHES RESPECTFULLY
ASKED FOR AND I VOTE. OKAY? OH,
ALRIGHT, LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
ITEM NUMBER 12 A B 21 OH, SIX BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ROBERT RIVAS.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALAN BATES. NO
DOLLY! PADALINO MCGUIRE SKINNER
SKINNER I STERN WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI I THANK YOU GREAT.
OKAY LET'S NOW GO. WE'LL LEAVE
IT OPEN FOR OTHER FOLKS.
CHRISTINA, YOU SURE DON'T WANT
TO PRESENT ANOTHER BILL. NO OKAY
. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE. I THINK
MATHIS'S NOW DON'T SO SORRY. HAS
BEEN HERE FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.
OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REMEMBER LET'S HEAR FROM YOU,
DEVIN. THIS IS A B 18 79 ITEM
EIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ALAN
AND SENATORS A B 18 79 IS A
COMMON SENSE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD
MEASURE THAT CLARIFIES THAT
REGIONAL WATER CONTROL BOARDS
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DELL
PLANS. TO ADDRESS ON FUNDED AND
FRIVOLOUS COMPLAINTS. I WANT TO
THANK THE CHAIRMAN IN THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR YOUR HARD
WORK ON THIS IN HELPING RESOLVE
SOME OF THE ISSUES. FIND ASK FOR
YOUR EYE VOTES. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO VOICE
SUPPORT FOR ABBY 18 79 HERE IN
COMMITTEE ON THE PHONE LINES
MODERATOR. IF YOU'D LIKE TO
SPEAK ON THIS MEASURE, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WE HAVE NO QUEUING UP.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY OPPOSITION
. ANYONE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILL
IF YOU WANT A VOICE HERE OR ON
THE PHONE LINES, OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL. TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO. ALSO NO LINES SECURING.
OKAY, GREAT. THE BILL HAS BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR DOLLY YOU MAY
CLOSE. ALRIGHT SENATORS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
ON THIS VERY SIMPLE MEASURE TO
MAKE SURE WE CAN DIAL BACK SOME
LEASE. UNWARRANTED COMPLAINTS.
THANK YOU. YES I WILL BE TAKING
THE AMENDMENTS. YES THAT'S PART
OF WHAT I WAS THINKING. YOU ALL
SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
YEAH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
THAT SECURITIES COLORADO. ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT A B 18 79 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MATHIS. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMENDING WE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. ALAN ALAN I. BATES. BATES I
DALI DALI. I MCGUIRE SKINNER.
STERN WIECKOWSKI. OKAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WELL NEXT WILL LEAVE
THE ROLL UP IN ONE NEXT YEAR
FROM YOU. DECEMBER, 18. THANK
YOU, SENATOR HERE TO PRESENT A B
18 17 LET ME JUST THANK YOU AND
THE COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS. AND
OTHER ALL THEIR WORK ON THE BILL
AND VERY HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. THE BILL
PHASES OUT THE USE OF PREFACE
AND TEXTILES BY 2025. ONE OF THE
REASONS THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IN
CALIFORNIA WATER SYSTEMS SERVING
UP TO 16 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE
ALREADY BEEN FOUND TO HAVE P
TASK CONTAMINATION, LEAVING THEM
UNDRINKABLE AT A TIME THAT WE'RE
IN DROUGHT. IT'S VERY SAD TO
THINK THAT SOMEBODY WATER
SYSTEMS ARE CONTAMINATED WITH
FACTS AND ARE NOT ABLE TO BE
USED IN ACTIVELY ENGAGING WITH
OPPOSITION. MAJESTIC CONCERNS.
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS GO A LONG
WAY TO DOING THAT. WE ALSO
INCLUDED A TWO YEAR EXTENSION
FOR TEXTILES USED IN SEVERE
CONDITIONS FOR PRODUCTS LIKE
GORTEX FOR PEOPLE WHO HIKE OR
SKI OR DO THOSE THINGS SO GORTEX
W. W. L. GORE ARE MOVINGTHEIR
OPPOSITION TO BILL BASED ON THIS
CHANGE. WE ALSO SET A TIERED
COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD, STARTING
AT 100 PARTS PER MILLION WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
STAKEHOLDERS ON THE PHASE DOWN
THRESHOLDS OF 50 AND 10 PARTS
PER MILLION. WELL WE STILL HAVE
A POSITION ON THE ON THE BILL.
I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
OPPOSITION. TO GET THEM ALL OFF
BY THE TIME THIS REACHES THE
SENATE FLOOR. I HAVE ONE WITNESS
HERE VANISH CAR FROM NRDC AND
ERICA SHREDDER. FROM TOXIC FREE
FUTURE ON THE FILM LINE. GOOD
MORNING, TERRY ALLEN AND MEMBERS
AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AND
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR ALL THEIR WORK ON THE BILL.
MY NAME IS AVINASH CAR. I'M
GONNA ATTORNEY AND SENIOR
DIRECTOR FOR HEALTH AND FOOD AT
THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL, AND RDC IS PROUD TO
COSPONSOR A B 17 WITH BREAST
CANCER PREVENTION PARTNERS AND
CLEAN WATER ACTION TO BAN
PREFACE AND TEXTILES. BECAUSE OF
THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH
RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CLASS
OF THOUSANDS OF MEN MADE FOREVER
CHEMICALS AND BECAUSE CALIFORNIA
WATER SYSTEM SERVING UP TO 16
MILLION PEOPLE ARE ALREADY
CONTAMINATED WITH TYPHUS. THIS
LEGISLATURE HAS BANNED PFS AND
FIREFIGHTING FOAM. THE CHAIRS,
BILL, PAPER BASED FOOD PACKAGING
AND JUVENILE PRODUCTS, CLOTHES
AND TEXTILES ARE ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF A SIGNIFICANT AND UNNECESSARY
USE OF PREFACE THAT SHOULD BE
ELIMINATED. PEOPLE ARE STANDING
WATER RESISTANCE FUNCTIONS THAT
IS SIMPLY NOT NEEDED, GIVEN THE
POTENTIAL HARM REPORTS FROM DTSC
, THE WASHINGTON STATE
DEPARTMENT OF ECOLOGY AND THE
EUROPEAN UNION SHOW THAT THERE
ARE MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES, BOTH
REPLACEMENTS AND ALTERNATIVE
DESIGNS AND MATERIALS FOR
WATERPROOFING NEEDS. INCLUDING
FOR OUTDOOR APPAREL. THIS BILL
INCLUDES EXEMPTIONS AND LONGER
TIMELINES FOR SITUATIONS THAT
COULD IMPLICATE HEALTH AND
SAFETY, SUCH AS PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND OUTDOOR
CLOTHING FOR EXTREME CONDITIONS
TO WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS. MANY
LEADING COMPANIES HAVE ALREADY
ELIMINATED COMMITTED TO
ELIMINATE PREFACE, INCLUDING
LEVI'S GAP, KEEN ASPREY AND
TARGET STORE BRANDS. PATAGONIAN
IK SUPPORT THIS BILL. IT'S TIME
FOR A LAW THAT REQUIRES THE REST
OF THE INDUSTRY TO CATCH UP. WE
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE ON A B 18 17
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ALRIGHT LET'S NOW.
OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM
ERICA SHREDDER FROM TOXIC FREE
FUTURE. ALRIGHT SHE'S ON THE
PHONE ON THE PHONE LINES. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS ERICA
STRADER. AND I'M SCIENCE
DIRECTOR WAS TOXIC FREE FUTURE.
THANKS. SO MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY.
REPORT OF A B WHEN 817. FIRST
BEGAN CONDUCTING RESEARCH ON
PEACE IN 2000 AND FIVE CONCERN
ABOUT THE DEVASTATING IMPACT OF
THE PRODUCTION AND USE OF THESE
CHEMICALS HAS GROWN STEADILY.
LAST YEAR, WE PUBLISHED RESEARCH
THAT FOUND IN BREAST MILK
EXPOSING INFANTS DURING THE
VULNERABLE LIFE STAGE. WE
TOASTED MILK FROM 50 WASHINGTON
STATE MOMS AND FOUND FAST
ASSOCIATED WITH CANCER AND
IMMUNE SYSTEM HARM IN EVERY
SAMPLE. WE ALSO FOUND THAT
GLOBALLY DETECTIONS OF WIDELY
USED FASTER DOUBLING EVERY FOUR
YEARS. THE USE OF GAS AND
TEXTILES CONTRIBUTING TO THIS
ALARMING TREND. BE TESTED
OUTDOOR APPAREL, BEDDING,
TABLECLOTHS AND NAPKINS AND
FOUND 72% OF THE ITEMS LABELED
STEEN OR WATER RESISTANT. BUT WE
FOUND SIMILAR ITEMS IN EACH
CATEGORY THAT REPEATED FAST
FREE. POLLUTION STARTS WITH
MANUFACTURING, CONTAMINATING
DRINKING WATER FOR THOUSANDS IN
OUR HOMES TREATED ITEMS IN THE
CHEMICALS TO THE AIR, LEADING TO
HIGHER LEVELS IN OUR BODIES.
WOMEN ALSO FASTER THAN SKIN,
RAISING EXTRA CONCERNED ABOUT
YOUTH ON ITEMS LIKE CLOTHING AND
NAPKINS. AND WHEN WE WATCHED
TREATED ITEMS HAS COME OFF IN
LAUNDRY, WATER AND END UP IN OUR
WATERWAYS. BY COMPELLING
EVIDENCE THAT AT CURRENT LEVELS
OF EXPOSURE OR HARMING OUR
HEALTH COMPANIES CONTINUE TO
MAKE AND USE THEM RATHER THAN
SAFER ALTERNATIVE. THE TIME IS
NOW FOR ACTION TO STOP THEIR USE
IN PRODUCTS TO PROTECT OUR
DRINKING WATER AND OUR HEALTH.
PLEASE VOTE. AYE. ON A B 18 17.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S NOW
HEAR FROM JEFF TURNER. MR
TURNER. YOU THERE? OKAY LET'S GO
TO THE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO VOICE
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL HERE IN
PERSON A B 18 17 VOICE SUPPORT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOICE
SUPPORT, PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. YEAH. GO GO TO FIRST
ALIGN. SORRY WE'RE HERE IN
PERSON HERE IN PERSON. I'M
SORRY. MODERATOR WHICH WE HAVE
SOME FOLKS HERE IN PERSON WHO
WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE
BILL. MY APOLOGIES. GOOD MORNING
. I'M SUSAN LITTLE WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP AND
SUPPORT OKAY? DARREN EVANS ON
BEHALF OF THE SANTA CLARA VALLEY
WATER DISTRICT AND SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING, ANDREA ABORIGINAL WITH
THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION AND ALSO
WITH THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEGATIVE
YOUR MEYER, BREAST CANCER
PREVENTION PARTNER ON BEHALF OF
US COALITION OF 75 GROUPS
REPRESENTING THE ENVIRONMENT,
PUBLIC HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE. FIREFIGHTERS BUSINESS
AND AS YOU JUST HEARD PUBLIC
WATER SYSTEM IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW
WE'VE GOT TO FIND TURNER. MR
TURNER. IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE
US ONE MINUTE STATEMENT, THAT
WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS JEFF TURNER.
I'M A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER OF
CALIFORNIA OUTDOOR RECREATION
PARTNERSHIP AND THE DIRECTOR OF
SALES AND COCONUT HEADQUARTER IN
ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA SINCE 1971
COCONUT MANUFACTURERS PROTECTIVE
GARMENTS FOR CONSUMERS
PARTICIPATING IN PADDLE SPORTS
AND OTHER HUMAN POWERED WATER
SPORTS. WE ALSO MANUFACTURE
WATER AND CHEMICAL WORK. DR
GOVERNMENTS UNDER CONTRACT THE
GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING FOR THE U.
S COAST GUARD, FIRE AND RESCUE
ORGANIZATIONS AND MILITARY
SPECIAL COURSES. SPOKEN TO THAT
IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING
OUTDOOR SPORTS AND MILITARY
SUPPLIERS THAT MANUFACTURERS ARE
HOMELESS IN CALIFORNIA, WHERE WE
EMPLOY 200. PEOPLE HERE IN
HUMBOLDT COUNTY SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENTS WITH THE START DATE,
MOVING FROM 25 TO 27 FOR EXTREME
AND EXTENDED PRODUCT. IF THIS
BILL WERE PASSED WITH THE
ORIGINAL TIMELINE, COCA TAT
WOULD HAPPEN INSIDE WHETHER
SECONDLY, DOWNSIZED OR CLOSED
OUR BUSINESS OR MOVED TO ANOTHER
STATE. WE HOLD A STRONG
COMMITMENT TO BEING PASSED,
SUPPLIERS WILL NOT HAVE THE
FABRIC VERSION TOLD THE 27
PRODUCTIONS. WHICH WOULD MEAN 28
CURRICULUM BUILT WE ASKED FOR AN
AMENDMENT TO THE ADDICT, THE
START DATE FOR RETAIL SALES TO
28. MAKING THIS LAW MANAGEABLE
FOR A RETAIL PARTNERS WILL BE
REQUIRED TO SELL ALL EXISTING
INVENTORY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE
EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU FOR A
LOT OF MY COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANKS SO MUCH. OKAY, LET'S GO
TO THE PHONE LINES AND HEAR FROM
FOLKS WHO WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT
FOR THE BILL. THIS IS A B 18 17.
SPEAKING SUPPORT, PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WELL,
FIRST GO TO LINE 87 1 MOMENT,
PLEASE. WHILE WE OPEN YOUR LINE. 9 87. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GO
LINE IS OPEN. PLEASE CHECK YOUR
MUTE FEATURE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO
LINE 43 GO AHEAD. GOING ABROAD
ON BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. LINE 88. ON BEHALF OF THE
FOLLOWING CLIENTS AND NATIONAL
ACTION COUNCIL ASSOCIATION OF
NORTH AMERICA, CALIFORNIA
PRODUCTS COUNCIL AND WESTERN
PLASTER WASTE MANAGEMENT
AUTHORITY. STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. LINE 25. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS, RICHARD WILLIAMS ON
BEHALF OF THE SENSATION OF
CALIFORNIA WATER AGENCIES. LINE
84. GOOD MORNING CARE, ROSIE
THOMPSON WITH METROPOLITAN WATER
DISTRICT OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
IN SUPPORT. LINE 39. HELLO THIS
IS ANDREA VENTURA WITH CLEAN
WATER ACTION, ONE OF THE CO
SPONSORS OF THE BILL AND SUPPORT
AND I'VE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO
EXPRESS THE SUPPORT OF THE CLEAN
SEAS LOBBYING COALITION. THANK
YOU. LINE 41. JUST BECAUSE AUGER
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF SANITATION AGENCIES IN
SUPPORT LINE 63. JIM LINDBERG,
ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION OF
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. LINE 36.
KAREN GREEN WITH THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICTS IN
STRONG SUPPORT. SO OPEN UP LINE
87 ONCE AGAIN, GO AHEAD. BEFORE
UNLESS IT'S STILL HIGH ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA. ALSO
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THERE ARE
NO FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. OKAY
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
OPPOSITION NOW, SO WE'VE GOT TWO
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION IS MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT WILL WAGNER HERE FOR SOME
FROM ARNOLD AND PORTER IS GOING
TO SPEAK IN PERSON. AND THEN
STEVE MCCARTHY. THANK YOU.
KAREN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
WILL WAGNER VULNERABLE ARNOLD
AND PORTER AND I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL
OF TEXTILE ORGANIZATIONS AND ITS
MEMBERS. WE HAVE AN OPPOSING
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION AS ABEAT. A B 18 17. ESTARA GROUP OF
THOUSANDS OF VARIABLE CHEMICALS
, INCLUDING AS THE IMPACT ON
HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. FOR
EXAMPLE, THE TEXTILE INDUSTRY
LARGELY USES FLORAL POLYMERS,
WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SHOWN TO BE
A HEALTH HAZARD COMPARED TO
OTHER KINDS OF FIFA'S. THERE ARE
TWO ISSUES I WANT TO TOUCH ON
BRIEFLY. FIRST, THE COMPLIANCE
STATE AND SECOND THE THRESHOLD
FOR ORGANIC FLORIAN TESTING. ON
THE FIRST ISSUE. THE BILL
PRESENTLY STATES THAT COMMENCING
IN JANUARY 1 2025. NO PERSON
SHALL SELL ANY TEXTILE ARTICLE
THAT CONTAINS PREFACE. GIVEN THE
SUPPLY CHAIN IN THE TEXTILE
INDUSTRY. THIS IS NOT FEASIBLE.
TEXTILES BEING CREATED THIS YEAR
WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO
FINISHED PRODUCTS LIKE FURNITURE
NEXT YEAR AT THE EARLIEST, AND
THOSE FINISHED PRODUCTS THEN
MUST BE DISTRIBUTED AND SOLD
THROUGH, ULTIMATELY TO
CONSUMERS, WHICH CAN TAKE YEARS.
AT A MINIMUM. WE REQUEST THE
TRIGGER DATE FOR COMPLIANCE BE
BASED ON THE MANUFACTURER. DATE
OF THE TEXTILE ARTICLE AND NOT
THE SALES STATE TO CONSUMER ALSO
FOR TEXTILE PRODUCTS WITH
DEMANDING PERFORMANCE
SPECIFICATIONS, ESPECIALLY
OUTDOOR FURNITURE THAT MUST
REPEL STAINS THAT ARE SIMPLY NOT
A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TECH.
TECHNOLOGY RIGHT NOW. THE
INDUSTRY HAS BEEN WORKING FOR
YEARS TO DEVELOP SUCH A
TECHNOLOGY, AND WHEN IT IS
DEVELOPED, IT MUST GO THROUGH A
RIGOROUS R AND D PROCESS AND THE
TECHNOLOGY MUST BE SCALED UP TO
SERVE THE INDUSTRY. THIS WILL
ALSO TAKE YEARS. I UNDERSTAND
THAT THE AUTHOR HAS AGREED TO
EXTEND THE COMPLIANCE STATE FOR
EXTREME OUTDOOR APPAREL TO 2027
WOULD REQUEST THAT THE SAME
ACCOMMODATION BE MADE FOR
OUTDOOR FURNITURE. ON THE SECOND
ISSUE. WE APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR
ADJUSTING FROM 300 PARTS PER
BILLION ORGANIC FLORINA UP 200
PPM AS AN INITIAL POINT. THAT'S
CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER
PEOPLE. FAST BILLS. IT SHOULD
100 PPM SHOULD BE THE NUMBER
THAT WE STICK WITH AND IT
SHOULDN'T GO DOWN. IT SHOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH ALL OTHER BILLS
IN MY PRACTICE AS A CONSUMER
PRODUCTS, ATTORNEY AH, YOU KNOW,
THESE LABS CANNOT CONSISTENTLY
ACHIEVE LOWER LEVELS THAN 100
PPM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. OKAY LET'S GO TO STEVE
MCCARTHY FROM THE RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION IS ON THE COASTLINE.
GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, STEPHEN CARTHY OF THE
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
. WE ARE ALSO OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED. MANY OF OUR RETAILERS
AND BRANDS ARE ALREADY WORKING
TOWARDS THE GOAL OF REMOVING P
FAST FROM A PARALLEL LINES AND
OTHER TEXTILE PRODUCTS AND HAVE
BEEN DOING SO FOR YEARS. WE WANT
TO SEE A WORKABLE BILL THAT
ACHIEVES THESE GOALS. WE SHARE
THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE MINIMUS
THRESHOLD AND THE TIMELINES
OUTLINED BY MR WAGNER. ANOTHER
REMAINING CONCERN OF OURS
RELATES TO CERTIFICATES OF
COMPLIANCE. IN OUR VIEW. THIS
LAST PART OF THE BILL DOES NOT
PROTECT RETAILERS FROM LIABILITY
FOR NON COMPLIANT PRODUCTS.
GENERALLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE
TAKE CARE OF IN OUR CONTRACTUAL
AGREEMENTS WITH MANUFACTURERS.
THIS PROVISION INSTEAD CREATES A
CUMBERSOME NEW PROCESS AND
POTENTIALLY CREATES ADDITIONAL
LIABILITY FOR RETAILERS. WE
WOULD ASK HER TO BE DELETED IN
FAVOR OF EXISTING PRACTICES. WE
DO APPRECIATE THE ONGOING
DIALOGUE WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE AND THE SPONSORS AND
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THE DIRECTION OF
THESE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE
PROPOSED FOR TODAY, AND WE HOPE
TO CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU.
AND THEN I GO. TIM YOU OKAY? YOU
WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS SOON,
OKAY. YEAH WE GET EVERYONE 33.
LIMITED TO THREE FOR THIS BILL,
BUT JUST A QUICK COMMENT PLEASE
SHARE MEMBERS. TIM STRESSING
WITH AMERICAN CHEMISTRY COUNCIL
ALSO OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED.
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT MR TING
AND HIS STAFF HAVE BEEN ONGOING
DIALOGUE WITH THE INDUSTRY HOPE
TO RECTIFY THESE ISSUES. BEFORE
THE INTERCESSION. SO THANK YOU.
OKAY AND YOU AND YOU GUYS, WILL
YOU AND WILL ARE HERE YOU'LL
STICK AROUND IN CASE WE HAVE
DIALOGUE. HEY. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. LARISSA
CESSPIT IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
TOY ASSOCIATION. WE ARE NOT
INTENTIONALLY ADDING, PEOPLE ARE
CONCERNED PRIMARILY WITH REGARDS
TO THE NEW THRESHOLDS. WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR TRYING TO
ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WITH YOUR
ARTISTS TO THE LABS. CAPABILITY
OF TESTING AT THOSE STANDARDS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BOBILLIER ON
BEHALF OF THE MARINE RECREATION
ASSOCIATION. IF THIS IS THE
APPROPRIATE TIME, I BELIEVE THE
ISSUE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
WAS THE EXEMPTION OF VESSELS AND
THAT WAS TAKEN. I BELIEVE IN
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS SO WE WOULD
GO TO NEUTRAL ON THAT. THANK
YOU. SEE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
THERE'S PROGRESS. THAT'S GOOD.
OKAY, THANK YOU EVERY DAY, EVERY
COMMITTEE ALRIGHT OTHER FOLKS
WHO WANT TO VOICE CONCERNS ABOUT
THE BILL HERE IN PERSON. LET'S
GO TO THE PHONE LINES, HIS
OPPOSITION OR CONCERNS ABOUT 18
17. SPEAKING OPPOSITION, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO ON YOUR
TOUCH TONE PHONE AT THIS TIME.
WE DO HAVE LINES QUEUING UP.
WE'LL GO FIRST TO LINE 57. GOOD
MORNING, SENATORS. I'M SCOTCH
LEGAL REPRESENTING THE
MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY COUNCIL, THE
SPECIALTY VEHICLE INSTITUTE OF
AMERICA AND THE RECREATIONAL OFF
HIGHWAY VEHICLE ASSOCIATION ARE
ASSOCIATIONS REPRESENT ON AND
OFF ROAD MOTORCYCLE
MANUFACTURERS, AS WELL AS THE
MANUFACTURERS OF ALL TERRAIN
VEHICLES AND RECREATIONAL OFF
HIGHWAY VEHICLES. WE ALSO
REPRESENT THE MANUFACTURERS,
DEALERS, DISTRIBUTORS AND
RETAILERS SELLING PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE GEAR WORN BY WHAT
WHILE USING THOSE VEHICLES. WE
STRONGLY URGE THAT A B 18 17 BE
AMENDED TO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE
OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES AND
PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND
EQUIPMENT USED ON THOSE VEHICLES
FROM THE DEFINITION OF TEXTILE
ARTICLES. YOU SEE IN THE BILL
THAT MOTOR VEHICLES ARE
APPROPRIATELY EXCLUDED FROM THE
DEFINITION OF TEXTILES. HOWEVER
SECTION 6 70 OF THE VEHICLE CODE
DOES NOT INCLUDE OFF HIGHWAY
VEHICLES, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE
REQUESTING THAT THE BILL'S
DEFINITION OF TEXTILES BE
AMENDED. THE BILL DOES MAKE
EXCEPTIONS FOR PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE GEAR FOR FIREFIGHTERS
AND MILITARY. PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE GEAR FOR POWER SPORTS
WRITERS SUCH AS SAFETY JACKETS
AND HELMETS. ETCETERA IS EQUALLY
AS IMPORTANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO
AND SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE
BILL'S PROVISIONS. I'M SO SORRY
, SIR. BUT YEAH, FROM US. YEAH
OKAY. YEAH, WELL, WE WILL. WE
WILL MAKE SURE TO REVIEW THE
LETTER. YOU KNOW, WE HAD ALREADY
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THREE
DIFFERENT WITNESSES, TOO. TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, BUT
APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT, AND WE
WILL. WE WILL CHECK OUT THE
LETTER AND I ASSUME THAT IT'S
BEEN SHARED WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE AS WELL. LET'S NOW HEAR
FROM OTHER FOLKS WHO WANT TO
PRESENT ME TO THESE ARE JUST AN
OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE YOUR YOUR
TITLE IN YOUR NAME AND YOUR
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. LINE 78.
PARDON ME LINE 78. WE HAVE LOST
TWO IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP AGAIN
BY PRESSING ONE, THEN ZERO.
MEANWHILE, WE'RE GOING TO LINE
91. GOOD MORNING. SHARON MEMBERS
DEAN TALLY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURING
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE
AN OPPOSING LESSON PHYSICIAN.
RESPECTFULLY. THANK YOU MUCH.
BLIND 78. CHAIR AND MEMBERS
JERRY DESMOND WITH RECREATIONAL
BOATERS OF CALIFORNIA ALSO
NEUTRAL ON THE MEASURE AS
AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX BEING ADDED
TODAY. APPRECIATE THAT. ABILITY
TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR AND
PROPONENTS TO EXEMPT VESSELS IN
THEIR COMPONENT PARTS FROM THE
MEASURE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN CUBA AT THIS
TIME, ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU.
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. FOR QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS, DISCUSSION. OKAY LET
ME JUST ASK YOU. COULD YOU GIVE
ME YOUR PERSPECTIVE, MR ARTHUR?
YOU KNOW SOMEONE WRITING ABOUT
THE STATE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS
THAT CONTINUE WITH SOME OF THE
STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE RAISED
CONCERNS HERE TODAY IS ANYTHING
PARTICULAR PARTICULAR THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED SO FAR THAT YOU LIKE
TO ADDRESS ABSOLUTELY VERY
HAPPY. OUTDOOR VEHICLE CONCERNS
ARE NEW. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE TAKE SHOULD
BE ADDRESSING THEM IF WE'RE NOW
HAPPY TO CLARIFY IN TERMS OF
CLOTHING. YOU SAW THAT THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE TOOK GOT W L.
GORE WHICH IS THE HOUSEHOLD NAME
IN SORT OF PROTECTIVE OUTDOOR
EQUIPMENT TO GO NEUTRAL, SO I
WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD LOOK
AT THOSE AMENDMENTS TO GET THEM
TO NEUTRAL AS WELL IN TERMS OF
THE OUTDOOR FURNITURE. IN
PARTICULAR, WE BELIEVE THAT
THERE IS NO NEED TO EXTEND THE
DEADLINE FOR OUTDOOR FURNITURE.
I K SELLS OUTDOOR FURNITURE.
THAT IS ALREADY UM WITHOUT FAST
TARGET HAS ALREADY COMMITTED TO
MAKE THAT DEADLINE FOR ALL THEIR
PRODUCTS, INCLUDING FURNITURE SO
AGAIN, WITH THOSE TWO HOUSEHOLD
NAMES ALREADY MOVING IN THAT
DIRECTION IS CLEAR THAT THEY'RE
ALREADY VERY CLEAR ALTERNATIVES.
IN TERMS OF EVERYBODY ELSE IN
TERMS OF THE RETAILER'S
OPPOSITION, NOT EXACTLY SURE
COULD HAVE RETAILERS ARE
SPEAKING FOR BUT WE HAVE A
LAUNDRY LIST OF HOUSEHOLD NAMES
THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER. IN
TERMS OF YOU KNOW, LEVI'S H AND
M GAP, NIKE KANE. PATAGONIA ALL
THE ALL THE VARIOUS ONES AND
CAMPING, OUTDOOR COMMON OSPREY.
VF JACK WOLF SKIN, POLARTEC AND
AGAIN. WE MENTIONED LEVI'S
EARLIER BUT HAVE QUITE A LIST OF
HOUSEHOLD NAMES ARE ALREADY
COMMITTED TO BEAT OR MAKE THIS
TIMELINE. OKAY? OKAY? ALRIGHT
THE BILL HAS BEEN MOVED AND WILL
GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU
WANT TO, LIKE CLOTHES AND GIVE
THE COMMITTEE BACK THERE TIME.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU AND I, YOU
KNOW I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THIS AND JUST ENCOURAGE
THOSE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS, BUT
APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'VE
ALREADY BEEN DOING. OKAY, LET'S
GO TO THE MOVE BY HENRY STERN.
YEAH ANYWAY, SENATOR, SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. I AM
NUMBER SEVEN A B 18 17 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEAM. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED.
ALAN BATES DELI, MCGUIRE
SKINNER. STERN WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI I THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE. FIVE. ALRIGHT.
LET'S NOW HEAR FROM EDDIE GARCIA
, WHO'S ACTUALLY DOUBLING FOR
RUDY SALAS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
HE BE 16 42 WOULD EXEMPT WATER
WELL PROJECTS AND DOMESTIC WILL
PROJECTS FROM THE SEQUEL.
PROCESS IF THE WELLS HAVE BEEN
DESIGNATED BY THE STATE BOARD AS
HIGH RISK MEDIUM RISK OF FAILURE
BY THE STATE WATER BOARD AND
WOULD MITIGATE OR PREVENT
FAILURE OF THE WELL THAT WOULD
LEAVE RESIDENTS WITHOUT ADEQUATE
SUPPLY. OF SAFE AND CLEAN
DRINKING WATER. WE HAVE ONE
WITNESS, JOHN KENNEDY, WHO WILL
BE BRIEF. FOR THE BILL, OF
COURSE. MR KENNEDY. GOOD MORNING
. MY NAME IS JOHN KENNEDY. I'M
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES
FROM CALIFORNIA. WE REPRESENT 39
RURAL COUNTIES FROM THE NORTH OF
THE STATE ALL THE WAY TO THE
1000 IMPERIAL COUNTY. MANY OF
OUR COUNTIES ARE IN SEVERE OR
EXTREME DROUGHT AND ARE
UNFORTUNATELY TOO FAMILIAR WITH
FRANKLIN WATER WELLS RUNNING
BRIGHT IN SOME AREAS,
CALIFORNIA'S HAD TO TURN TO HOLD
WATER SUPPLIES FOR BASIC
SANITARY COOKING AND CLEANING
PURPOSES. WE'RE PLEASED TO BE
HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT A B 16 42.
THE BILL PROVIDES A VERY NARROW
SEQUEL EXEMPTION FOR VITAL
PROJECTS TO PREVENT OR MITIGATE
FAILURE, BUT WELL, THEY COULD
LEAVE RESIDENTS WITHOUT AN
ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF DRINKING
WATER. WE BELIEVE 16 42 HELPS
FILL GAPS IN EXISTING LAW WILL
EXPEDITE COMPLETION OF THESE
IMPORTANT PROJECTS AND AVOID
POTENTIALLY COSTLY AND LENGTHY
LITIGATION DELAYS. THE BILL
PLUGS GAPS IN THE EXISTING LEGAL
FRAMEWORK IN WHICH SOME TYPES OF
DRINKING WATER WELL PROJECTS MAY
NOT QUALIFY
STATUTORY OR CATEGORICAL
SEQUENCE OF IN PARTICULAR THE
CLASS ONE EXISTING FACILITIES IN
CLASS TWO REPLACEMENT OF
RECONSTRUCTION, CATEGORICAL
EXEMPTION MAY WORK FOR SOME WELL
PROJECTS, BUT THEY COULD BE OF
NO USE WHERE THE EXISTING WELL
WAS UNDERSIZED TO MEET THE
CURRENT NEEDS OF THE EXISTING
COMMUNITY. NEXT TO THE EMERGENCY
PROJECT EXEMPTION MAY WORK FOR
SOME OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS,
BUT THAT'S FAR FROM CLEAR. THE
EXEMPTION WAS RECENTLY BROADENED
TO INCLUDE OTHER TYPES OF
PROJECTS THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY
BEEN EXCLUDED. THIS IS A GOOD
THING, BUT THE CONTOURS OF THAT
EXEMPTION ARE STILL UNCLEAR, AND
RIGHT FOR LITIGATION THAT JUST
CAN'T BE AFFORDED FOR THESE
TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND FINALLY,
THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS EXEMPTION CREATED BY SP
9, 74 AND 2020 COULD BE HELPFUL
, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO
EXTEND TO SOME OF THE SMALLEST
DOMESTIC WEALTH PROJECT. WHO
WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM MAYBE
16 42. FURTHERMORE SOME OF THE
EMPLOYER REQUIREMENTS THAT
ATTACH THE 9 74 EXEMPTION REALLY
AREN'T WELL SUITED TO SMALLER
PROJECTS AND COULD INHIBIT ITS
USE IN SOME SITUATIONS AND SHORT
16 40 TO PROVIDE SOME MUCH
NEEDED RELIEF UNCERTAINTY. TO
HELP ENSURE THAT CALIFORNIANS
WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE ADEQUATE
SUPPLIES OF SAFE DRINKING WATER.
WEIRD YOU'RE I VOTE TODAY? THANK
YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. UM, I
THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN
TERMS OF OFFICIAL WITNESSES.
ANYONE HERE IN IN PERSON WHO
WANT TO VOICE THEIR SUPPORT FOR
THE BILL 16 42. HEATHER. HI,
ANDREA. AVERAGE L WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. ANYONE ELSE OKAY. PHONE
LINES. 16 42. SPEAK IN SUPPORT.
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME, AND BY THE WAY, I'M SO
SORRY, BUT THE AUTHOR IS
ACCEPTING ALL THE AMENDMENTS.
THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH, OKAY,
OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. SORRY,
MODERATOR. LINE 29. MORNING MRS
DALY, DEREK WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE 25. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. RICHARD
HILDA'S ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
NO FURTHER LINES ARE IN CUBA AT
THIS TIME. OKAY? OPPOSITION
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BILL. THIS
IS A B 16 42. I KNOW THERE'S NO
ONE HERE IS GOING TO TESTIFY IN
PERSON. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S
ANY REGISTER OPPOSITION, BUT
ANYONE HERE IN PERSON ANYONE ON
THE PHONE LINES MODERATOR WANTS
TO RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT MAYBE 16
42. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION OR GREAT CONCERNS.
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT
THIS TIME, TWO YEARS OLD. WE
HAVE NO LINES QUEUED UP. MR
SHERMAN, YOU MAY PROCEED. GREAT.
THANK YOU. OKAY WE'LL BRING YOU
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. FOR
QUESTIONS. THOUGHTS, COMMENTS,
SENATOR WIECKOWSKI. THE STAFF
REPORT DOES A GOOD LINE OF A
GOOD JOB OF OUTLINING BEGINNING
ON PAGE FIVE OF WISEST NECESSARY
AND BUT I THINK THE AMENDMENTS
GO A LONG WAYS TOWARDS INFORMING
FOLKS OF WHAT THE EXEMPTIONS ARE
OR WHY THEY EXEMPTIONS ARE NOT
YEAH, OR INAPPROPRIATE SO FAIR
ENOUGH. I DON'T. I'M NOT GOING
TO LOSE SLEEP OVER THIS THIS
BILL, BUT I GUESS IF IT HELPS IN
A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN IT'S
PROBABLY WORTH IT. I'LL LET THE
AUTHOR NO. HAD OTHER QUESTIONS.
THAT'S. YEAH OKAY. I AM HEARING
A MOTION FROM SENATOR DOLLY.
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL IT MAKE
YOU MAKE CLOTHES. I'M SORRY.
I'LL USE DESTROY WIECKOWSKI AS A
CLOSED OKAY, SECRETARY CENTER
FOR CASCADES ACROSS THAT'S A
GREAT CLOTHES AND WIECKOWSKI.
SECRETARY POLICE COLORADO. ITEM
NUMBER THREE. A B 16 42 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALAS MISSION
IS DUE PASSES AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDING WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALLEN. HELEN I. BATES BATES. I
DOLLY. SALLY I. MCGUIRE SKINNER.
STERN I WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI.
AYE. WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OF
BENEFIT FOR OTHER FOLKS TO ADD
ON. LET'S NOW GO TO YOUR BILL,
ACTUALLY. YEAH YOUR BILL ADAM 13
, 80 20 TO 48. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES. THIS BILL
WOULD MAKE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO
THE STATE WATER BOARD FOR GRANTS
AND DIRECT EXPENDITURES TO
ADDRESS WATER QUALITY. PROBLEMS
ARISING ON OUR BORDERS. THIS
BILL WOULD FOCUS ON THE TWO
RIVERS THAT ARE ON THE MEXICAN,
CALIFORNIA INTERNATIONAL BOARD
OF THE NEW RIVER AND THE TIJUANA
RIVER. WHICH YOU ALL ARE AWARE
ARE VERY HIGHLY POLLUTED
WATERWAYS, AND THIS WOULD CREATE
A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS.
KELLY PH TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO
IMPROVE WATER QUALITY. IN THE
SOUTHERN BORDERS WITH CALIFORNIA
. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. WE ARE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR THAT, UM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
OKAY SO LET'S LET'S GIVE FOLKS
THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN AND
SUPPORTED THE BILL. I KNOW WE
DON'T HAVE ANY LEAD WITNESSES IF
YOU WANT TO COME UP TO THE
MAKING. MAKE A COMMENT OR TWO.
GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR JONATHAN
CLAY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF
SAN DIEGO. JUST QUICKLY SAY, UM
, THIS IS AN ISSUE I'VE BEEN
WORKING ON FOR MY ENTIRE CAREER
25 YEARS. I WILL NOTE IN SAN
DIEGO. CURRENTLY TWO OF THE
PUBLIC BEACHES. BOTH IMPERIAL
CORONADO HAD BEEN CLOSED ALL
SUMMER DUE TO POLLUTION ISSUES
STEMMING FROM THE TIJUANA RIVER,
WHICH I'M WELL AWARE OF ON THE
SAN DIEGO SIDE. THE EFFORTS BY
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER HERE WILL BE
GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALEXA CHAVEZ ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE AND SUPPORT. THANKS A LOT.
OKAY UM, ANYONE ON THE PHONE
LINES? WE WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT
FOR A B 2048. SPEAKING SUPPORT,
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WE HAVE NO LINES QUEUING
UP, MR CHAIRMAN. OKAY LET'S SEE
IF ANYONE HAS THE OPPOSITION
CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT THE BILL.
I KNOW THERE'S NO REGISTER
OPPOSITION. ME ON THE PHONE
LINES. AND TO REGISTER
OPPOSITION. PRESS ONE, DÂN ZERO. ONCE AGAIN THERE ARE NO LINES
QUEUING UP, MR CHAIRMAN. OKAY
WE'LL BRING IT BACK. I JUST WANT
TO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND I ALSO WANT
TO JUST SAY TO MIKE, OUR
COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE
COMMITTEE. THIS HAS BEEN
SOMETHING THAT'S ALSO BEEN AN
AREA OF REAL PASSIONATE INTEREST
FOR OUR COLLEAGUE, SENATOR WES
Ó. UM I SERVE ON THE CALIFORNIA
MEXICO. SELECT COMMITTEE. AND
HE'S REALLY WORKED HARD TO
EDUCATE SO MANY OF US AS OF US,
REMEMBER AS TO SOME OF THESE
UNIQUE POLLUTION CHALLENGES ON
THE BORDER, AND THE SITUATION
WITH THE TIJUANA RIVER IS REALLY
VERY PROBLEMATIC. THERE'S
FINALLY BEEN SOME INVESTMENT,
INCLUDING FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. AND YOU KNOW THIS.
THIS RIVER IS FOLKS MAY KNOW
FLOWS FROM MEXICO INTO THE
UNITED STATES. YEAH YOU KNOW, WE
OBVIOUSLY ARE TRYING TO ENGAGE
WITH OUR PARTNERS. FEDERAL UM,
ON THIS SIDE ON THE MEXICAN SIDE
CITY IN BAJA CALIFORNIA
GOVERNMENTS TO JUST SEE WHAT WE
CAN DO TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY
TO ADDRESS THESE WATER ISSUES
THERE. AND THEN, OF COURSE,
THERE'S A WHOLE NEW SET OF
THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF
ISSUES OVER A LITTLE INLAND. AH
YOU KNOW, WITH THE SALTON SEA
AND IN THE NEW RIVER SO SENDING
OUT ONE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
COLLEAGUES TO GO DOWN TO THIS
REGION AND CHECK OUT SOME OF
THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES.
UM APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH
OUR COMMITTEE TO. THERE'S A
NUMBER OF THINGS WE NEEDED TO
GET ADDRESSED IN THE BILL, BUT I
THINK WE'RE NOW IN A BETTER
PLACE. THAT STILL MEETS YOUR
MEAT, YOUR CORE CONCERNS AND
GOALS AND CERTAINLY HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL. UM SO, UM,
COMMENTS, SWIM MOVED BY SENATOR
STERN WILL WILL LET YOU CLOSE.
THANK YOU. AND YOU HAVE
HIGHLIGHTED EXACTLY WHAT THE
KIND OF PICTURE LOOKS LIKE IN
THE SOUTHERN BORDERS WITH OUR
STATE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH
ISSUE THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO
MITIGATE, RECOGNIZING THAT THE
INTERNATIONAL BOUNDARY ISSUES
PERTAINING TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. AND ALTHOUGH THEY'RE
MAKING SOME EFFORTS TO INVEST IN
THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, WE
HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
ADDRESSING THESE ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ISSUES ON THE BORDER
THAT ARE IMPACTING CALIFORNIANS.
SO I JUST RESPECTFULLY THANK
YOU. THE COMMITTEE TEAM AND AS
FREE HIGHBALL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S HAVE A
VOTE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
REMEMBER 13 20 TO 48 BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER AND, UM GARCIA. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMENDED. WE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALAN BATES,
DOLLY. DOLLY I'M MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN. ALL RIGHT, I'IL
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI I OKAY.
THANK YOU, SENATOR AND YOUR
OTHER BILLS ON CONSENT, WATER
AND TRIBES. OKAY, LET'S HAVE
SOME MEMBER THREE OF US ARE
ESTEEMED. CHAIR FROM THE OTHER
SIDE, COME UP AND SPEAK TO A B
1931. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
SENATORS. I WANT TO START BY
THANKING GABRIELLE FOR HER WORK
ON THIS ANALYSIS. I'M ACCEPTING
THE AMENDMENTS, AS DESCRIBED ON
PAGES, 11 AND 12. A B 1931 IS A
CRITICAL BILL THAT PROTECTS
ACCESS TO SAFE DRINKING WATER
WHILE ENSURING LEAD SERVICE LINE
REPLACEMENTS ARE DONE SAFELY
WITH INDUSTRY STANDARD HEALTH
PROTECTIONS. SPECIFICALLY THE
1931 LIMITS THE ACTION OF
PARTIAL LINE REPLACEMENTS AND
ADDS IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY
HEALTH PROTECTIONS TO AVOID
LETTING EXPOSURE. THE BILL
REQUIRES COMMUNITY WATER SYSTEMS
TO PROVIDE ADVANCED NOTICE TO
AFFECTED RESIDENTS WELL BEFORE
CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, WATER
FILTERS TO BE PROVIDED AND
TESTING OF WATER SAMPLES.
FINALLY IT CREATES A GRANT
PROGRAM FOR RESIDENTIAL SIDE
REPLACEMENTS AND PRIORITIZES
DOLLARS FOR DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. MEMBERS WE ALL
AGREE THAT THERE IS NO SAFE
LEVEL OF LEAD EVER LET US
ESPECIALLY DAMAGING TO CHILDREN
, EVEN SMALL LEVELS CAN CAUSE A
RIVER IRREVERSIBLE AND LONG TERM
NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE.
UNFORTUNATELY THE SERVICE LINES
THAT DELIVER DRINKING WATER TO
MILLIONS OF HOMES IN THE STATE
HAVE CORRODED OVER TIME AND HAVE
RELEASED LEAD INTO DRINKING
WATER. UTILITIES ARE IN THE
PROCESS OF REPLACING THIS TOXIC
PLUMBING, HOWEVER, THE FORM IN
WHICH THESE REPLACEMENTS ARE
OCCURRING IS EXTREMELY
CONCERNING A B 1931 IS NEEDED TO
ENSURE PARTIAL REPLACEMENTS ARE
LIMITED AND TO REQUIRE IMPORTANT
INDUSTRY STANDARD HEALTH
PROTECTIONS. I'M APPRECIATIVE OF
THE REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. BUT AGAIN,
WE MUST ENSURE THAT THESE
REPLACEMENTS ARE DONE IN A SAFE,
HEALTH PROTECTED MANNER.
OTHERWISE, THESE EFFORTS WILL BE
COUNTERINTUITIVE. WE ARE ONCE
AGAIN IN A DROUGHT. WATER IS A
PRECIOUS RESOURCES IN OUR STATE.
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS LIMITED
RESOURCE TO BE CONTAMINATED WITH
LEAD AND THEN EXPECT HOUSEHOLDS
TO CONSUME IT. TODAY I HAVE WITH
ME TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY.
VICTORIA'S ROME DIRECTOR OF AN R
D C, WHICH IS A CO SPONSOR OF
THIS BILL, UM AND THEN ON THE
PHONE. I HAVE CHEN ANGSTROM
STATE DIRECTORATE KELP ERG,
WHICH WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. OKAY WHY DON'T WE
OKAY? WELL, YEAH. OKAY GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
I'M VICTORIA ROME WITH NRDC, A
CO SPONSOR OF A B 1931,
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
DIRECTOR JUST TO CLARIFY
PERSONAL REPLACEMENTS OF LEAD
SERVICE LINES, INCLUDING LED
FITTINGS, CALLED GOOSE NECKS ARE
HAPPENING THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA
AND ARE HARMFUL TO PUBLIC HEALTH
. THREE MONTHS AGO, THE DIVISION
OF DRINKING WATER ISSUED A
PERMIT ISSUED PERMIT AMENDMENTS
REQUIRING BASIC HEALTH
PROTECTIONS ALREADY REQUIRED BY
OTHER STATES AND IN THE FEDERAL
LEAD AND COPPER REVISIONS. THE
DIVISION HAS NOT YET REQUIRED
SYSTEMS TO GO BACK AND FIX
PERSONAL REPLACEMENTS ALREADY
COMPLETED. THIS CREATES A GAP IN
PROTECTIONS AS ABOUT HALF OF
AFFECTED SYSTEMS HAVE ALREADY
CONDUCTED THESE REPLACEMENTS.
CALIFORNIA STANDS TO GET
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PERFORM,
PERFORM FULL REPLACEMENTS AND TO
REMEDY PAST PARTIAL
REPLACEMENTS. TO TAKE FULL
ADVANTAGE OF THESE FUNDS AND
PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH. WE'D LIKE
TO CONTINUE WORKING TO ENSURE A
B 1931 INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT
OF GALVANIZED PIPES THAT ARE OR
WERE DOWNSTREAM OF BLOOD
FITTINGS. CALIFORNIA'S CURRENT
DEFINITION OF LEAD SERVICE LINE
DOES NOT INCLUDE GALVANIZED
LINES. DOWNSTREAM OF LEAD
COMPONENTS, AND WE'D LIKE TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE, WATERBOARD AND ALL
STAKEHOLDERS TO UPDATE
CALIFORNIA'S DEFINITION AS
RECOMMENDED IN THE COMMITTEE'S
ANALYSIS WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
ENSURE THAT THE BILL ALLOWS FOR
MITIGATION FOR PERSONAL
REPLACEMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY
OCCURRED. THAT WAY CALIFORNIA
CAN ACCESS ALL AVAILABLE FEDERAL
FUNDING. THANK YOU TO OUR AUTHOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RIVAS AND THIS
COMMITTEE FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO
THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. THANK YOU.
THANKS, VICTORIA. GOOD TO SEE
YOU. LET'S GO TO THE CO HOST
LINE WHERE WE HAVE JENNINGS
STREAM FROM ALBERT. GREAT. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING TO ALLEN AND
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JEN INKSTER.
UM AND I'M THE STATE DIRECTOR
FOR KELP ERT, WHERE CONSUMER
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION WITH
THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS ACROSS THE
STATE, AND WE'RE PROUD TO CO
SPONSOR 18 1931, ALONG WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP AND
NRDC. I WANT TO THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RIVAS FOR HER%
WORK ON THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE
IT IS EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO
PUBLIC HEALTH, ESPECIALLY
CHILDREN, ALL THAT BURYING PARTS
NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR
DRINKING WATER SYSTEM. BUT THAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE CAREFULLY. IN
MY SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE.
MAYBE 1931 MAKES MUCH NEEDED
UPDATES TO OUR LEAD LINE
REPLACEMENT PROCESS IN
CALIFORNIA. AND HELPS CALIFORNIA
RESIDENT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
NEW FEDERAL FUNDS FROM THE
BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW TO
REMOVE LEAD CONTAMINATED LINES
AND COMPONENTS ON THEIR
PROPERTY. THE GOAL IS TO MAKE
SURE WE REMOVE ANYTHING
CONTAMINATED WITH LEAD FROM OUR
DRINKING WATER SYSTEM AND TO
PROTECT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS.
CALIFORNIA DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE
THAT MANY TRADITIONAL WEB PIPES
ANYMORE. BUT COMMUNITIES ARE
EXPOSED TO LEAD FROM
CONTAMINATED GALVANIZED LINES.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'D LIKE TO KEEP
WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THIS
LEGISLATION REQUIRES THE REMOVAL
OF GALVANIZED LINES THAT WERE
DOWNSTREAM FROM PIPES AND
FITTING 18 1931 ALSO REQUIRES
THAT RESIDENTS BE NOTIFIED OF
ALL RETROFITTING ACTIVITY
PREVENTED WITH WATER FILTERS TO
REMOVE LEAD RELEASED BY LINE
DISTURBANCES. AND HAVE THEIR
WATER TESTED AFTER CONSTRUCTION
. THESE ARE FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED
HEALTH AND SAFETY PRECAUTIONS
THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE LEADING
COPPER RULER EFFICIENT FUNDING
FROM THE BIPARTISAN
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL PROVIDES A
GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ALL OF
THE LET OUT OF OUR DRINKING
WATER SYSTEMS AND PROVIDE THE
RESOURCES TO DO IT PROPERLY. WE
WANT TO USE THOSE FUNDS WISELY,
SO THERE'S STILL DIRECTS. WATER
UTILITIES DO SOME OF THE FUNDS
TO HELP CUSTOMERS REPLACE THEIR
SIDE OF THE LINE AND PRIORITIZED
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. WATER
IS A PRECIOUS RESOURCE IN
DROUGHT PRONE STATES, SO WE MUST
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT
OUR WATER IS CLEAN AND SAFER
COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU, AND WE
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY
LET'S GO TO ME TO FOCUS FOLKS
WHO WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR
THE BILL HERE IN PERSON. GOOD
AFTERNOON, LINDA WAY WITH
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, SUSAN LITTLE WITH
THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP
, ONE OF THE OTHER CO SPONSORS
OF THE BILL ALONG WITH AND ALSO
VOICING SUPPORT FOR CALENDAR
YEAR VOTERS COALITION OF
CALIFORNIA WELFARE RIGHTS
ORGANIZATIONS, CHILDREN NOW
CALIFORNIA NURSES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND
JUSTICE. FAMILIES ADVOCATING FOR
CHEMICALS AND TOXIC SAFETY AND
NON TOXIC NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK
YOU AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR THE WORK THEY
HAVE DONE ON THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. ALRIGHT LET'S GO TO THE
PHONE LINES, FOLKS WHO WANT TO
VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE BILL.
VOIGTS SUPPORT PRESS, ONE THAN
ZERO AT THIS TIME WILL OPEN
LINE. 63 GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING
, JIM LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
IN CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 39.
ANDREA VENTURA WAS CLEAN WATER
ACTION IN STRONG SUPPORT. SO FOR
THEIR LINES IN QUÊ, MR CHAIRMAN
. ALL RIGHT NOW LET'S HEAR FROM
FOLKS WHO WANT TO IN OPPOSITION
. I GUESS WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE
HERE IN PERSON, DANIEL BASTARD
HIDING FROM CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION. AND THEN
CINDY TUCK FROM THE CALIFORNIA
WATER AGENCIES. AQUA GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I WAS
GOING TO SAY IT'S ALMOST THE
AFTERNOON, BUT MY NAME IS
DANIELLE BASSETT. HAYDN WAS
SAYING YOU AND TODAY I'M ALSO
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
NEVADA SECTION OF ADA W. A. WE
EARNED STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE
VERSION OF A B 1931 IN PRINT. I
WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THAT. AND THEN OUR COMMENTS ON
THE AMENDMENTS ARE MEMBERS
HIGHEST PRIORITIES, DELIVERING A
SAFE AND RELIABLE WATER SUPPLY
TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING
THE REMOVAL OF ANY LEG
COMPONENTS WITHIN THEIR SYSTEMS.
1931 IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS NOT
THE RIGHT APPROACH TO ENHANCE
THE STATE'S LEAD RELATED PUBLIC
HEALTH PROTECTIONS. IT WOULD NOT
ONLY CAUSE CONFUSION WITH
FEDERAL REGULATIONS BUT WOULD
UNDO PREVIOUS SENATE
LEGISLATION. WITHOUT ANY
EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CHANGE.
MY COLLEAGUE CINDY TECH WILL
DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL THE
FEDERAL EFFORTS TO PROTECT THE
PUBLIC WORK TO IMPLEMENT THE
FEDERAL LEAD AND COPPER RULE
REVISIONS AT THE STATE LEVELS
ALREADY UNDERWAY. AND THE
CURRENT VERSION OF THE BILL
COULD CAUSE CONFUSION AND
DUPLICATE OR CONFLICT WITH THOSE
EFFORTS. IN ADDITION, SENATOR
LEYVA AUTHORED LEGISLATION
PASSED BY THIS COMMITTEE THAT
REQUIRES WATER SYSTEMS TO
COMPLETE AN INVENTORY. HAVE
KNOWN LEAD SERVICE LINES AND
COMPONENTS AND THEIR SYSTEMS AND
COME UP WITH A REPLACEMENT PLAN
IN CALIFORNIA WATER SYSTEMS OR
FORTUNATELY REPORTING ZERO LEAD
SERVICE LINES. BUT THERE ARE LED
COMPONENTS LIKE GOOSE NECK. SO
WATER SYSTEMS ARE WORKING TO
REMOVE THEM. THE BILL AND PRINT
WOULD STOP THIS PROCESS AND ITS
TRACKS AND REQUIRE YET ANOTHER
INVENTORY WITH NO SCIENTIFIC
BACKING, GIVEN THE EXTENSIVE
WORK TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH,
INCLUDING STATE ACTIONS TO
IMPLEMENT FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS
AND EXISTING STATE LAW. THE
CURRENT VERSION OF A B 1931 IS
SIMPLY UNNECESSARY THAT ALL
BEING SAID WE WERE PLEASED TO
SEE THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD
SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVE THE
DIRECTION OF THE BILL. WE
APPRECIATE STAFFS WORK TO
DEVELOP THEM IN THE AUTHOR'S
WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THEM. WE
LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING THE
LANGUAGE AND ESPECIALLY
APPRECIATE THE INTENT TO
MAXIMIZE THE FEDERAL FUNDS
COMING INTO CALIFORNIA, WHILE
CONCERNS REMAIN, INCLUDING THE
DEFINITION OF GALVANIZED LINES
NEED TO BE REMOVED. THIS
APPROACH IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER
THAN THE BILL IMPRINT. WE HOPE
TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND THE
SPONSORED ON OUR CONCERNS. OKAY
ALL RIGHT. NOW LET'S HEAR FROM
CINDY. HEY, THERE. GOOD MORNING
, CINDY TECH WITH AQUA. WE DO
HAVE AN OPPOSED POSITION ON THE
IMPRINT VERSION OF THE BILL. WE
GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE
CHIEF CONSULTANTS WORK ON THE
BILL AND WORK WITH THE AUTHOR
AND THE AUTHOR'S WORK. TO GET TO
THE AMENDMENTS AND CONCEPTS FOR
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE IN THE
ANALYSIS. ONE OF OUR CONCERNS
THAT IT'S DISCUSSED IN THE
ANALYSIS, BUT IT'S THIS ISSUE OF
WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL AND WITH THE NEW BINDING
MINISTRATIONS LEAD IS A PRIORITY
ISSUE FOR THEM AND DRINKING
WATER AND PAINT AND OTHER
THINGS. AND THEY ARE REVISING
THE FEDERAL LEAD IN COPPER ROLE
AS WE SPEAK, AND THEY PLAN TO
COME OUT WITH THEIR PROPOSED
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RULE IN 2023
, THEN ADOPT A FINAL FEDERAL
RULE IN 2024. SO ONE OF OUR
CONCERNS HAS BEEN THAT WE COULD
END UP WITH TWO CONFLICTING
PROGRAMS. AND LEAD REGULATION IN
CALIFORNIA'S COMPLICATED AS IT
IS, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE TWO
DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT AFFECT
COSTS AND LOGISTICS. AND ALL OF
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ONE PROGRAM
THAT WORKS ON THE GROUND IN
CALIFORNIA, SO WE REALLY THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT AND YOU'VE
COMMITTED TO THIS, YOU KNOW TO
THE AUTHOR CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE COMMITTEE STAFF ON THE SPILL
AND WORK WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT WORK,
AND I HOPE WE CAN GET TO A POINT
WHERE WE CAN REMOVE OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SONNY. OTHER FOLKS
WHO WANT TO VOICE CONCERNS FOR
THE BILL HERE. OPPOSITION IN
PERSON. ON THE PHONE LINES.
ANYONE ON THE PHONE LINES? TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO ON YOUR TOUCH TONE
PHONE AT THIS TIME. THERE ARE NO
LINES IN QUÊ. MR CHAIRMAN, OKAY,
ALRIGHT. UM WELL, FIRST OF ALL I
WANT I WANT TO PERSONALLY THINK
THAT CHAIR FOR TACKLING THIS
IMPORTANT AND COMPLICATED ISSUE
AND I ALSO WANT TO. WELL I DON'T
WANT TO CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE
ACCEPTING ALL THE COMMITTEE
AMENDS. YES, I AM ACCEPTING HIM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY,
UM, I THINK I THINK THAT THE
CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD THE
COMMUNITY HERE IS THAT WE
ABSOLUTELY SHARE THE CORE GOALS.
UH YOU KNOW OF THE OF THE BILL
IN TERMS OF PROTECTING PEOPLE,
ESPECIALLY KIDS FROM LEAD
EXPOSURE. DURING YOUR LEAD LINE
REPLACEMENT. AS YOU AND I HAVE
WORKED ON ANOTHER THINGS. IT'S
IMPLEMENTATION IS IMPORTANT.
RIGHT SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S IMPLEMENTED? SO I
CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS STRIKE THAT
BALANCE AND SO THERE ARE THREE
KEY COMPONENTS OF THE AMENDMENTS
FOR FOLKS TO KNOW. SO FIRST OF
ALL, WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF FEDERAL FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES. FOR LEAD AND
SPECIFIC AND SPECIFIED
GALVANIZED LINE. REPLACEMENTS ON
THE CUSTOMER SIDE, SO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THE FEDERAL
FUNDING. WE WANTED TO SET A HIGH
BAR FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF PARTIAL
LEAD LINE REPLACEMENTS. AND THEN
WE ALSO WANTED TO ALLOW NARROW
EXEMPTION FOR EMERGENCY LED LINE
REPAIRS, WHICH I THINK WE CAN
ALL AGREE. SOMETHING THAT'S
WORTH MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T
HARM SO THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE
DONE THIS PROPOSAL. I CERTAINLY
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE
PROGRESS THAT YOU MAKE OVER THE
BREAK TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE
REMAINING ISSUES. I CERTAINLY AM
HEARTENED BY THE COMMENTS THAT
ARE MADE BY ALL THE WITNESSES IN
BOTH BOTH THOSE SUPPORTING THE
BILL AND THOSE RAISING CONCERNS
ABOUT HOW WE I WOULD JUST LAND
THIS ULTIMATELY AND THE GOALS
ARE SO IMPORTANT. OBVIOUSLY,
IMPLEMENTATION IS IMPORTANT,
TOO. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT MADAM
CHAIR AND, UM SO WITH THAT I'M
CERTAINLY HAPPY TO VERY MUCH
SUPPORT THE BILL AND I ALSO WANT
TO THANK GABRIEL TO FOR ALL OF
HER HARD WORK, GETTING ALL THESE
ISSUES ADDRESSED IN THE BILL.
AND SO THE CENTER. WIECKOWSKI
CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATIONS ARE
BETTER UNDERSTAND THE GALVANIZED
LINES. THE DEFINITION THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE
AND ON THE MUNICIPAL SIDE.
WHAT'S THE WHAT NEEDS TO BE
CLARIFIED? OKAY, I'LL OF. EITHER
MY THE WITNESS ON THE PHONE
COULD TAKE THAT. OR IF YOU WANT
TO GO AHEAD. HI I'M SUSAN WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP AND
JUST TO RESPOND TO THE SENATORS
QUESTION. THE DEFINITION THAT
WE'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY IS THAT
, UM RIGHT NOW AT THE FEDERAL
RIGHT NOW GALVANIZED LINES ARE
NOT INCLUDED WITHIN THE
INVENTORY THAT THE STATE HAS
DONE. FOR ITS LEAD USER SERVICE
LINES AND THE GALVANIZED LINES,
OF COURSE DOWNSTREAM OF THE LEAD
PIPES OR LEAD COMPONENTS CAN
COLLECT, LED AND SAT INTO THE
DRINKING WATER SO THE CONCERN IS
THAT WE WANT TO BE SURE. THAT
THE THESE LINES, WHICH ARE ALSO
A HAZARD ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF
THIS OVERALL PROGRAM SO THAT THE
HEALTH PROTECTIONS ARE APPLIED
WHEN THOSE LINES ARE DISTURBED,
AND THEN THAT ALSO THE FEDERAL
DOLLARS WHICH CAN BE USED TO
REMOVE THE ENTIRE GALVANIZED
LINE THAT'S DOWNSTREAM OF THE
LEAD PEACE. THAT THOSE FUNDS
WILL BE ABLE TO BE DIRECTED TO
THAT. RIGHT NOW. IN CALIFORNIA.
THERE IS OVER 500,000 OF THESE
GALVANIZED LINES REMAINING AND
MANY OF THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN
EITHER. THEY WERE EITHER
DOWNSTREAM OF THE LEAD PARTS AT
ONE TIME OR THEY ARE NOW AND SO
THOSE ARE THE LINES IN QUESTION
THAT WE HAVE REMAINING. THERE
MUST BE SOME GALVANIZED LINES
THAT WE'RE NOT. ASSOCIATED WITH
LEAD. LEAD LINES. I GUESS AT
SOME POINT THERE ARE SOME BUT
AGAIN THE LEAD LINES. WERE THERE
JUST TO ALLOW THE GALVANIZED
LINES TO BE CONNECTED TOGETHER,
SO IT IS VERY OFTEN THE CASE
THAT THE GALVANIZED LINES AT
SOME TIME HAD HAD A LEAD LEAD
GOOSE NECK, TOO. ROUND THEM OFF.
UM OR A LEAD PIPE. THANK YOU
THAT HELP. YEAH. OKAY? OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
MEMBERS. OKAY. THE BILLS WERE
MOVED BY SENATOR STERN AND THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
CALIFORNIA AS WAS MENTIONED.
WE'RE ABOUT TO RECEIVE BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS FROM THIS FEDERAL
BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW
FOR THESE REPLACEMENTS, AND WE
HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS
UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STATE
OF I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MOVING
PIECES TO THE BILL AND I HAVE
COMMITTED TO CONTINUE WORKING
WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND THE WATER
BOARD AND OTHERS THAT EXPRESS
HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN. TO MY
OFFICE. BUT TODAY I'M ASKING
RESPECTFULLY FOR AN I VOTE ON
THIS BILL. OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU LOSE. PLEASE CALL HER
OFF. ITEM NUMBER NINE A B 1931
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THREE OF US
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDED AND
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALAN BATES. DELI.
MCGUIRE SKINNER. STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI, AYE. OKAY
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I
WILL HOLD THE ROLL UP IN FURTHER
FOLKS DOWN ON THANK YOU
REMEMBER? OKAY LET'S BRING UP
FEDERAL MULLEN, WHO'S HERE TO
PRESENT ITEM 15 PACKETS MEMBERS
THAT MAY BE 23 62. JUST STILL
OKAY? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT 23 62
WOULD LIKE TO START BY THANKING
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
HARD WORK AND ACCEPTING. THE
COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS
OUTLINED IN THE ANALYSIS. AS YOU
MAY KNOW, CALIFORNIA'S
ECOSYSTEMS ARE VITAL TO OUR
ABILITY TO WITHSTAND AND RECOVER
FROM EXTREME CLIMATE EVENTS AND
OFFER MULTIPLE BENEFITS SUCH AS
FLOOD CONTROL, WILDLIFE HABITAT
AND WATER SUPPLY. THE STATE HAS
ADOPTED AMBITIOUS CONSERVATION
GOALS, SUCH AS THE 30 BY 30
INITIATIVE AS PART OF OUR
CLIMATE, RESILIENCE, STRATEGY.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AS THE
STATE MOBILIZES TO RESTORE AND
REBUILD OUR ECOSYSTEMS. HOWEVER
ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION PROJECTS
REQUIRE PERMITS JUST AS
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DO THE
CURRENT REGULATORY PROCESSES FOR
RESTORATION PROJECTS ARE SLOW
AND COSTLY, TOO COSTLY, FRANKLY
, TO EFFECTIVELY RESPOND ONGOING
CLIMATE IMPACTS, IN SOME
INSTANCES, UP TO THIRD OF PUBLIC
FUNDING AND RESTORATION PROJECTS
CAN GO TO PLANNING. AND
PERMITTING AND CAN TAKE YEARS OR
DECADES TO COMPLETE. THIS BILL
ADDRESSES THE ISSUE OF BUILDS
OFF OF THE STATES CUTTING GREEN
TAPE INITIATIVE. THE BILL
REQUIRES THE STATE AGENCIES TO
COORDINATE THEIR PERMIT
STREAMLINING EFFORTS, ENSURING
THAT EXISTING PERMITTING
EFFICIENCY MEASURES ARE FULLY
UTILIZED AND LAY THE GROUNDWORK
FOR AN ONLINE PERMITTING PORTAL
ALL WALK CONSULTING WITH
RESTORATION EXPERTS. AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH ME TODAY
IS MARK FINSTER MAKER
REPRESENTING SUSTAINABLE
CONSERVATION TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY
HAVE THE MARKET. I SEE YOU.
MAKER FOR SUSTAINABLE
CONSERVATION AND NONPROFIT
DEDICATED TO COLLABORATIVE
SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS
CALIFORNIA'S ENVIRONMENTAL
CHALLENGES. I SPEAK TODAY AND
PROUD SPONSORSHIP AND SUPPORT OF
A B 23 62. AS MR MULLEN
MENTIONED, CALIFORNIA FACES
PROFOUND ENVIRONMENTAL
CHALLENGES IN THE AREA OF
CLIMATE CHANGE. PROTRACTED
DROUGHTS. EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS
SEE LEVEL RISE DEVASTATING
WILDFIRES. AND MANY OTHER
PROBLEMS HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE
NEED TO TAKE URGENT ACTION TO
PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AS
RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNOR'S
EXECUTIVE ORDER AND 80 TO 20
PATHWAYS TO 30 BY 30 STRATEGY.
STATE CLIMATE ADAPTATION
STRATEGY AND ELSEWHERE, THE
CUTTING GREEN TAPE INITIATIVE
PIONEERED BY THE NATURAL
RESOURCES AGENCY, IN
COLLABORATION WITH OTHER STATE
AGENCY PARTNERS AND
STAKEHOLDERS. IN THE RESTORATION
OF NONPROFIT COMMUNITIES IS AN
IMPORTANT TOOL TO ACCELERATE THE
RESTORATION WORK THAT WILL BE
NEEDED TO QUICKLY ACHIEVE THE
STATE'S CONSERVATION GOALS.
CUTTING GREEN TAPE FOCUSES ON
ACCELERATING RESTORATION BY
MAKING STATE PERMITTING
PROCESSES SMARTER, MORE
EFFICIENT AND FRIENDLIER TO THE
PEOPLE WHO CARRY OUT THESE
PROJECTS. SUSTAINABLE
CONSERVATION HAS DECADES OF
EXPERIENCE, WORKING TOGETHER
WITH STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES
HELP ENVIRONMENTAL CHAMPIONS GET
BENEFICIAL RESTORATION DONE BY
DEVELOPING PROGRAMMATIC UNIFIED
PERMITS. AND COOPERATION WITH
AGENCIES SUCH AS THE DEPARTMENT
OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, STATE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD,
UNITED STATES FISH AND WILDLIFE
SERVICE. THE ARMY CORPS OF
ENGINEERS AND OTHERS HAVE DONE
THE WORK TO CREATE PERMITTING
PROGRAMS THAT ARE COORDINATED
BETWEEN AGENCIES. TAT ARE
SIMPLER AND EASIER TO NAVIGATE,
AND THAT RESULT IN MORE PROJECTS
BEING IMPLEMENTED IN LESS TIME,
ALL WITHOUT SACRIFICING THE
ENVIRONMENT. THESE PROJECTS ARE
INTENDED TO PROTECT THIS BILL
REPRESENTS THE NEXT STEP FORWARD
FOR CUTTING GREEN TAPE BY
CONVENING A WORKING GROUP OF
RESTORATION PERMITTING AGENCIES
AND RESTORATION PRACTITIONERS
AND PROVIDING DIRECTION FOR THIS
GROUP TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES. IMPLEMENT SMART,
EFFICIENT PROGRAMS TO QUICKLY
APPROVE BENEFICIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
PROJECTS. PERMITTING AUTHORITIES
, GUIDELINES AND PRIORITIES
CHANGE CONSTANTLY AS THE STATE
CONTINUES TO ADAPT TO THE
REALITIES OF CLIMATE CHANGE,
ENSURING AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS
FOR AGENCIES TO WORK TOGETHER
WILL HELP TO KEEP REGULATORS ON
THE SAME PAGE. AND AVOID
OVERLAPPING DUPLICATIVE
PROCESSES IN THE SHORT TERM AND
DEVELOP NEW EFFICIENT PERMITTING
MECHANISMS SHORTLY THEREAFTER. I
WOULD LIKE TO THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MULLEN FOR HIS
SUPPORT OF CUTTING GREEN TAPE
AND FOR AUTHORING THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION. IN ADDITION, WE
WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF. MAYBE 23 62
WILL CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK OF
CUTTING GREEN TAPE AND MOVE THE
INITIATIVE FORWARD. WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU, MARK. ALL RIGHT,
LET'S GO TO ANYONE ELSE WHO
WANTS TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE
BILL. MR TURN MEMBERS, AARON
EVANS ON BEHALF OF THE SANTA
CLARA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT
VALLEY WATERS AND SUPPORT OF
THIS MEASURE, BUT DOES HAVE SOME
CONCERNS WITH RECENT AMENDMENTS
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AND THE OTHER.
THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU.
KILLER ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF MID
PENINSULA REGIONAL OPEN SPACE,
DETRICK DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA
STATE PARKS FOUNDATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ON THE PHONE LINES. YOU
WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR A B 23
62? AVOID SUPPORT. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
MERRIMENT. WE HAVE NO LINES
QUEUED UP AT THIS TIME. OKAY ALL
RIGHT. LET'S GO TO ANYONE WHO
WANTS TO VOICE OPPOSITION FOR
THE BILL. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE
ANYONE. REGISTERED OPPOSITION,
BUT NO ONE HERE ANYONE ON THE
PHONE LINES, ONE OF WHERE HIS
CONCERNS ABOUT A B 23 62. AND IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
CONCERNS, PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. MERRIMENT AGAIN.
THERE'S NO LINES QUEUED UP. OKAY
LET'S BRING BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE, SENATOR DOLLY! THANK
YOU. SO REMEMBER FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD. I WORKED IN
THE AREA OF STREAMLINE PERMIT
PROCESSES FOR FORESTRY PROJECTS.
FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND I
DON'T KNOW HOW HE DID WITH START
GETTING SIERRA CLUB OR SOMEBODY
TO OPPOSE YOUR BILL HERE, BUT
THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME. I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE THE BILL. I THINK
THIS IS A MOVE IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION, TOO. YOU KNOW, IN
MANY CASES, WE DUPLICATE THE
SAME THING OVER AND OVER. MAYBE
THERE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT FOR
LIKE FUEL. REDUCTION PROJECTS IN
THE FOREST. WORDS DOESN'T CHANGE
THAT MUCH, BUT WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS MANY TIMES
OVER TO STREAMLINE THAT WE COULD
PUT MORE MONEY TO GETTING THE
PROJECTS APPROVED ON THE GROUND
AND DONE IN A MORE EFFICIENT
MANNER. SO I REALLY LIKE THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION. THANKS FOR
BRINGING FORWARD OKAY. GREAT SAM
WIECKOWSKI COMMENT. THIS IS THIS
IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM. I KNOW IN
MY DISTRICT, ALAMEDA CREEK HAS
BEEN TRYING TO GET PERMITS FROM
THE CALIFORNIA FISH AND WILDLIFE
SERVICE AND WATER RESOURCE BOARD
TO TAKE TO CEMENT OUT OF THE
ALAMEDA CREEK TO RESTORE THE
NATURAL FLOW, AND I DON'T KNOW
WHO IT IS AT THE BOARD OR THE
FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, BUT
THEY'RE DEALING WITH IT AS
THOUGH IT WERE A PROJECT THAT
YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE DEBT
BUILDING A DAM. THERE THEIR
THEIR DEMANDS THAT THEY'RE
MAKING ON THIS TO DO THE
RESTORATION TO JUST GET THE
CREEK OR TO RESTORE IN WHICH ALL
THE BIOLOGICAL AND HYDROLOGY
INFORMATION SAID THAT IT WILL
COMPLEMENT DEBATE WETLANDS T.
RESPOND TO ONE FT OF SEA LEVEL
RISE WE DO YOU THINK THAT YOU
WOULD GET ALL THAT INFORMATION
AND THEN YOU GET THE STATE
AGENCIES. JUST IDIOTICALLY
HOLDING. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN THREE
YEARS IT'S ON THREE YEARS TRYING
TO GET THE PERMITS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS SO TOO
BAD WE DIDN'T DO THIS 10 YEARS
AGO BY THE SIMILAR MEMBER COULD
ISSUE AND I HOPE THAT THE STATE
AGENCIES AND WATERBOARD REALLY
ARE LISTENING TO THE TO THE
DEMANDS THAT ARE THAT WE'VE GOT
TO GET ON THIS HORSE AND GIDDY
UP IF WE'RE GOING TO MEET OUR
CLIMATE GOALS, SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OKAY? ALRIGHT UM, THE
ISLAND'S UNMOVED. YOU MAKE
CLOTHES. AGAIN THANK THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR AND THANK THE SENATORS
FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND HELPING
MOVE THIS BILL FORWARD, AND WITH
THAT I ASK FOR MY VOTE. AND JUST
TO NOTE THAT I DROPPED MY IPHONE
EARBUDS UNDERNEATH THE PODIUM
HERE, SO I'M GOING TO BE ON THE
GROUND LOOKING FOR THOSE, SO
JUST ALERTING YOU AS TO WHY I'M
ON THE GROUND AND THE NEXT 30
SECONDS. WE WISH YOU THE VERY
BEST OF LUCK WITH THAT ENDEAVOR.
SO SECRETARY PIECE COLOR ROLE.
ITEM NUMBER 15 23 62 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MULLEN THE
MOTION IS PASSED AS AMENDED, BUT
FIRST AMENDING WE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALAN BATES. BATES, I DALI DALI.
I MCGUIRE SKINNER STERN. I
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. AYE. OKAY
YOU'VE GOT THE VOTES, BUT YOU
DON'T HAVE YOUR EARBUDS OR DO
YOU? DO YOU FIND THEM? CORRECT
I'D RATHER HAVE THE VOTE IN THE
YEAR. BUT SO THANK YOU, SENATOR.
WE'LL FIND WE'LL FIND THESE
LATER. ALRIGHT WELL, OKAY. WE
WILL MAKE SURE THAT AFTER THE
COMMITTEE'S OVER, WE'LL WE'LL DO
A THOROUGH SEARCH AND GET THOSE
EARBUDS. AS WE KNOW THEY HAVE A
HIGH FISCAL HAVE. OKAY LET'S
HAVE YOU SPEAKING OF HIGH FISCAL
, LET'S HAVE THE APPROPRIATIONS
CHAIR. COME UP, UM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDING. YOU'RE
HERE PRESENTING YOUR BILL, WHICH
IS A B 24 46. YOU MAY PROCEED
WHEN READY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS FIRST. I'D LIKE TO
STATE THAT I ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDED
AMENDMENTS. AND IT IS MY HOPE
THAT SHOULD THIS BILL MOVE
FORWARD FROM THIS COMMITTEE
AGREED UPON AMENDMENTS WITH C B
A WOULD ALSO BE MADE
CONCURRENTLY. I WANT TO THANK
THE CHAIR AND HIS CONSULTANT FOR
THE SIGNIFICANT WORK THAT THEY
PUT IN GETTING THIS BILL
PREPARED FOR PRESENTATION TODAY
WHILE KEEPING THE SPIRIT OF WHAT
I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH INTACT.
WHICH IS TO SEE CALIFORNIA MEET
ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEMANDS,
BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR
CLIMATE GOALS. GIVEN THE TIGHT
TIME FRAME. ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
LETTERS WERE UNABLE TO BE
REFLECTED IN THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS, BUT I DO HAVE SUPPORT
LETTERS FROM ARCHITECTURE,
ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION
COMPANIES IN CALIFORNIA AS WELL
AS FROM MASS TIMBER. STRATEGY
NEVERTHELESS, TODAY, I'M
PRESENTING A B 24 46 1ST IN THE
NATION BILL THAT WILL MONITOR
AND THEN REDUCE EMBEDDED CARBON
AND ALL PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
BUILDINGS. EMBEDDED CARBON
GENERALLY REFERS TO THE
ADMISSIONS FOOTPRINT ASSOCIATED
WITH MANUFACTURING, TRANSPORTING
AND CONSTRUCTION OF BUILDINGS
AND ITS RELATED MATERIALS. AS
YOU ARE ALL AWARE IN 2000 AND 18
JERRY BROWN GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN
ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER B 55 18.
WHICH ORDERED A STATEWIDE GOAL
TO ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE. TO ITS CREDIT.
CALIFORNIA HAS TAKEN THE CHARGE
AND HAS MADE GREAT STRIDES IN
REDUCING ITS CARBON FOOTPRINT
WITH THE PURCHASE OF OUR
GOVERNMENT ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS
WELL AS GOVERNMENT AND
RESIDENTIAL RETROFITS. FOR
ENERGY SAVINGS. AS THE
LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR NEWSOM
SEE CREATIVE IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS
TO ADDRESS OUR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING SHORTAGE. 24 46 SEEKS TO
ENSURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO
SUPPORT THE DREAM OF HOME
OWNERSHIP WHILE AVOIDING A
RETREAT IN OUR CLIMATE GOALS.
MAYBE 24 46 REQUIRES THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
TO DESIGN THE FRAMEWORK FOR
MEASURING AND REDUCING CARBON
EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH NEW
BUILDING CONSTRUCTION TO
HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW OF THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AS NOTED IN
THE ANALYSIS ON PAGE FIVE AND
SIX, THE BILL WOULD INCLUDE THE
ADDITION OF THE BUILDING
STANDARDS COMMISSION, THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER
RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS TO THOSE
MUST WHO THOSE WHO MUST BE
CONSULTED WITH IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE MEASURING AND
REDUCTION FRAMEWORK. THE BILL
REMOVES THE GHD EMISSIONS
REDUCTION TARGETS THAT CURRENTLY
EXISTS IN THE BILL, BUT
SPECIFIES THAT A TARGET OF 40%
NET REDUCTION IN GHG EMISSIONS
FROM BUILDING MATERIALS SHOULD
BE ACHIEVED. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
, BUT NO LATER THAN DECEMBER
31ST 2035 DEFINES FEASIBILITY TO
MEAN THAT NEW MATERIALS ARE
CAPABLE OF BEING INSTALLED. IN A
SUCCESSFUL MANNER WITHIN A
REASONABLE TIME FRAME. TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT ECONOMIC,
ENVIRONMENTAL, LEGAL, SOCIAL AND
TECHNOLOGICAL FACTORS HAD ALSO
DEFINES COST IMPACT TO INCLUDE
NEW MATERIALS THAT DO NOT HARM
THE HEALTH OR SAFETY OF
INSTALLERS, AND THE BUILDING
DESIGN CAN REASONABLY
INCORPORATE THE MATERIALS
WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING
MATERIAL COSTS, SCHEDULE, ENERGY
COSTS OR OPERATIONAL COSTS.
FINALLY THE BILL WOULD REQUIRE
ARB TO FORM A TECHNICAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE TO SPECIFIED AND
SPECIFIED TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO DEVELOPERS
WHO CANNOT ACHIEVE THE GHG
REDUCTION TARGETS. AS YOU'RE ALL
AWARE, MAYBE 24 46 INITIALLY
AUTHORIZED THE USE OF A SYSTEM
OF CREDITS THAT COULD BE TRADED
AMONG PRIVATE ENTITIES TO
FACILITATE THE CARBON INTENSITY
MEASUREMENT. AND REDUCTION,
HOWEVER, THAT WAS REMOVED FROM
THIS BILL, GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT
QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT
WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED,
THEREFORE, A B 24 46. SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED AS PART ONE OF MY
LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE REGARDING
THIS ISSUE AREA. IT IS MY
CHALLENGE TO INTRODUCE
LEGISLATION DEVELOPING AND
AUTHORIZING THE USE OF A SYSTEM
OF CREDITS BEGINNING THE NEXT
TWO YEARS CYCLE IN DECEMBER OF
THIS YEAR. AS A COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD LIKE THE
LEGEND FOR LEGISLATIVE INTENT TO
BE INCLUDED IN A B 24 46 THAT
EXPRESSES MY INTEREST IN
PURSUING THIS TOPIC FURTHER. I
HOPE TO WORK WITH YOUR COMMITTEE
AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO BRING
THAT MEASURE FORWARD. WITH ME TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT AND ANSWER
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. OR SAM
RUBIN, CO FOUNDER OF MIGHTY
BUILDERS. PATTY HARBURG, PETRICH
PRINCIPLE US WEST COAST AVIATION
LEAD. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. ALRIGHT, GREAT. LET'S
START WITH YOU, SAM. THANK YOU,
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
AS MENTIONED. MY NAME IS SAM
RUBIN. I'M ONE OF THE CO
FOUNDERS AND THE SENIOR
SUSTAINABILITY ADVISOR FROM
MIGHTY BUILDINGS. BUILDINGS IS
AN OAKLAND BASED COMPANY
UTILIZING NEW THREE D PRINTING
MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY TO
UNLOCK PRODUCTIVITY AND
RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. WHILE
ADDRESSING THE CLIMATE
IMPLICATIONS OF THOSE ADDITIONAL
BUILDINGS AND AT THE SAME TIME
ATTRACTING A NEW GENERATION OF
WORKERS INTO THE INDUSTRY. WE
REPRESENT A GROWING INDUSTRY OF
INNOVATIVE GREEN MATERIALS AND
ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN CALIFORNIA.
I WOULD LIKE TO ALIGN MYSELF
WITH MS HARBURG PETRICH COMMENTS
THAT WE'LL BE HEARING SHORTLY ON
THE NEED TO ACT NOW ON CLIMATE
AS THEY FOUND IN HIS 2021 REPORT
IN NEW BUILDING PROJECTS UP TO
50% OF TOTAL GHG EMISSIONSOVER
30 YEAR BUILDING LIFE FROM THE
EMBODIED CARBON ASSOCIATED WITH
INITIAL CONSTRUCTION. AND ONCE
THE BUILDING HAS BEEN
CONSTRUCTED, THERE'S LITTLE THAT
WE CAN CAN BE DONE TO AFFECT ITS
EMBODIED CARBON AFTER THE FACT
WE'RE SUPPORTING A B 2446 AS A
LOGICAL NEXT STEP IN
CALIFORNIA'S HISTORY OF CLIMATE
LEADERSHIP. BUILDING OFF OF THE
WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO
ADDRESS OPERATIONAL CARBON IN
BUILDINGS VIA TELL 24 THIS BILL
TAKES US FORWARD BY ADDRESSING
THE EMBODIED CARBON ARE BUILDING
MATERIALS AND METHODS ALONG WITH
POSITIONING THE STATE TO
EFFECTIVELY MEASURE AND MANAGE
THESE EMISSIONS VIA DEMAND FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT
DECLARATIONS AND LIFE CYCLE
ASSESSMENTS. MAYBE 24 46 WHILE
ALSO INCENTIVIZED ADOPTION OF
LOW CARBON BUILDING MATERIALS
AND METHODS, PROMOTING
INNOVATION AND NEW ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREEN BUILDING
MATERIALS, MIGHTY BUILDINGS AND
OTHER COMPANIES LIKE US OUR
POSITION TO PROVIDE COST
EFFECTIVE, LOW CARBON SOLUTIONS
FOR CALIFORNIA'SHOUSING NEEDS.
THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE BROAD
COALITION HAS COME TOGETHER IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL, INCLUDING
THE MASS TIMBER INDUSTRY. GLOBAL
MATERIALS MANUFACTURERS SUCH AS
DUPONT, AS WELL AS A HOST OF
OTHERS. THIS IS FURTHER BY THE
FACT THAT THE BILL IS CURRENTLY
UNOPPOSED. NOW THAT C B A AND
THEIR ALLIES HAVE MOVED TO
NEUTRAL. MAYBE 2446 WILL HELP
FOCUS THE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT
AND PERILOUS WORK ETHIC OF
CALIFORNIA'S WORKERS AND
BUSINESSES ON SOLVING THIS KEY
DRIVER OF THE CLIMATE CRISIS. I
HUMBLY ASK YOU SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S GO
TO THE PHONE LINES. WE HAVE
PATTY HARBURG PETRICH PETRIK,
WHO IS HERE ON THE PHONE LINES
REPRESENTING AVIATION LEAD. OH,
NO. SORRY. SORRY, BOROUGH HAPPY.
THANK YOU, UM THANK YOU. YES. MY
NAME IS PATTY HARVARD. PETRITSCH
I MUST ENGINEER ELITE ACCREDITED
PROFESSIONAL AND A PRINCIPAL AT
BOROUGH HAPPENED ENGINEERING,
GLOBAL CONSULTANCY FOR THE BUILT
ENVIRONMENT AND THE PUBLIC
REALM. I ALSO SERVED AS
PRESIDENT FOR THE STRUCTURAL
ENGINEERS ASSOCIATION OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA,
REPRESENTING OVER 1000 ENGINEERS
ACROSS HALF THE STATE AS AN
ASSOCIATION. THIS IS AN ISSUE OF
UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO US. A B 24
46 IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN
ADDRESSING THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY
TO MEET THE 1.5 DEGREES C.
CARBON BUDGET, ALL NEW BUILDINGS
AND MAJOR RENOVATIONS MUST BE
DESIGNED TO BE ZERO CARBON
TODAY. MINIMIZING EMBODIED
CARBON OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS
HAS QUICKLY EMERGED AS A
CRITICAL CONSIDERATION FOR
CLIMATE MITIGATION AND
RESPONSIBLE DESIGN PRACTICE. THE
BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION SECTOR
IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 40% OF GLOBAL
CARBON EMISSIONS. UNFORTUNATELY
CURRENT BUILDING CODES TYPICALLY
ADDRESSED IMPACTS OF EMBODIED
CARBON AND BUILDING MATERIALS
AND PRODUCTS. IF WE ARE SERIOUS
ABOUT MAKING MEANINGFUL CHANGE,
WE NEED TO REDUCE THE BODY
CARBON IN OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT
AS A PROFESSIONAL AND INDUSTRY,
I THINK ABOUT EMBODIED CARBON
EVERYDAY BAFFLED ALONG WITH MANY
OF OUR PEERS IS COMMITTED TO THE
SC 2050 CHALLENGE TO MEASURE
REDUCED AND ACHIEVE ZERO AND
BODY CARBON STRUCTURES BY 2050.
MY COLLEAGUES AND I NOW LOOK AT
THE LIFE CYCLE IMPACTS OF CARBON
AT VERY EARLY STAGES OF A
PROJECT. AND WE FOUND A STRONG
CORRELATION BETWEEN EMBODIED
CARBON AND STRUCTURAL COSTS.
CLAIMING THAT BY MEASURING AND
REDUCING CARBON EARLY ON, WE CAN
DELIVER A PROJECT THAT IS BETTER
FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO
MORE ECONOMICAL. SPEAKING TO AN
ASEMBLY MEMBER, HOLDEN
MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY. IT IS
CRITICAL THAT WE GET A HANDLE ON
EMBODIED CARBON. NOW IF WE HOPE
TO ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY BY
2045 DESIGNERS HAVE STORED THAT
THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WE SEE A B
24 46 OF THE CRITICAL MEASURE
NEEDED TO MAKE MEANINGFUL CHANGE
IN OUR COMMUNITIES. MAYBE 24 46
WILL PROVIDE US WITH THE
FRAMEWORK TO MEASURE AND
GRADUALLY BEGIN TO MANAGE THE
EMBODIED CARBON IN OUR BUILT
ENVIRONMENT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE BILL. WE
HAVE ANY OTHER WE HAVEN'T DONE
THEM ROOM YET. NO. TIME FOR THE
ROOM. COME FOR MADAM CHAIR
MICHAEL GUNNING WITH THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION. FIRST OFF
DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE IS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S.
HOLDEN HAS SAID GREAT WORK AND
AMENDMENTS IN THERE. WE ASK BE A
CERTAINLY ARE GETTING USED TO
UNDERSTANDING HOW THE BILL WORKS
AND WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR AND
WANT TO THANK YOU, MR HOLDEN FOR
WORKING WITH YOU AND LOOK
FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THIS
EFFORT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.
KILLER ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF
NRDC ACTION FUND AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS IN THE
ROOM THAT WISH TO REGISTER
SUPPORT. AND WE'LL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. SPEAK IN SUPPORT
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME WILL OPEN
LINE 99. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS GOING ON BEHALF OF
ALAMEDA, STOP WASTE AND SUPPORT
. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE OTHER
LINES QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT
WHILE WE PROVIDE THEM THEIR LINE
NUMBERS. LINE 98. GOOD AFTERNOON
, KATHY SCHAEFER ON BEHALF OF
THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY CLIMATE
, REALITY PROJECT AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. FROM ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. LINE 94. HELLO THIS IS
JESSE SCHNELL, REPRESENTING 3
60, SACRAMENTO. I AND WE SUPPORT
A BETWEEN 2446 THANK YOU. IS
THERE NO FURTHER LINES IN Q AT
THIS TIME. AND WE WILL GO TO
THOSE WHO HAVE ARE IN OPPOSITION
TO BE 24 46, DO WE? I DON'T SEE.
TO LEAD OPPOSITION. WE DIDN'T
HAVE ANY SORT OF ANYONE IN THE
ROOM HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
REGISTER OPPOSITION TO MAYBE 24
46 OR EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS.
SEEING NONE. LET'S GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. THOSE HAVE
CONCERNS. SPEAKING OPPOSITION OR
TO REGISTER CONCERN. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE
NO LINES IN QUÊ. BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS?
SENATOR DOLLY! YEAH. REMEMBER,
JUST. YOU SEE THERE ANY
CONFLICTS WITH OR HOW WOULD THIS
WORK WITH THE CAP AND TRADE
PROGRAM? BUYING SELLING THE
CREDITS, RIGHT? WELL, WE'RE NOT
INCORPORATING THAT INTO THIS
BILL. AT THIS MOMENT, WE'RE
UNDERSTANDING THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT THAT WE HAD IT IN, BUT
IT WAS TAKEN OUT. AND AS WE LOOK
TO GO FORWARD, WE'RE SEEING IT
AS A WAY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES
TOO MUCH LIKE THE CAP AND TRADE
PROGRAM THAT'S IN PLACE NOW. WE
WOULD USE THAT SAME KIND OF
MODEL APPROACH ON HOW WE WOULD
CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE
INDUSTRY, TOO. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
HOW TO MOVE THE PRODUCT AROUND
IN A WAY WHERE THERE IS AN
ECONOMIC BENEFIT, AND BUT PART
OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO
FLUSH THAT OUT. A LITTLE BIT
MORE. AND SO TO THE TO YOUR
QUESTION. WE HAVE A CONCEPT. BUT
TO GET INTO. MORE DETAILS OF HOW
IT WOULD WORK. THAT'S PART OF
THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD THIS
TIME AROUND. YOU THINK THERE
WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
TRADING OF CREDITS OR OR BANKING
CREDITS IN THE FUTURE VERSUS
GOING TO THE OPEN MARKET.
CORRECT. FELLOWS. ANY OTHER
COMMENTS WILL BUILD. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND DID YOU HAVE A
COMMENT? OKAY GOOD. I WOULD JUST
LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU WERE
HOLDING. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF
WORK BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST SAW
THIS, I THOUGHT, WOW. AND THIS
IS GOING TO BE VERY COSTLY. MY
HUSBAND IS AN ARCHITECT, AND WE
HAVE A FIRM THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU
REALLY WORKED WITH THE CONCERNS
. AND SO I'M I THINK I WILL
SUPPORT IT TODAY. BUT HOPE IS IT
IF IT COMES TO THE FLOOR THAT
WILL BE SOME REAL COMPROMISES
THERE, AND EVERYBODY IS
COMFORTABLE WITH IT. SO WITHOUT
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MHM. FORM.
I THOUGHT WE HAD EMOTION FROM
SENATOR STERN. WE DO. HOLD. I'M
SORRY. I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A
CHANCE TO CLOSE. I ALWAYS JUMPED
THE GUN ON THAT RESPECT FOR LAST
YEAR. OKAY WE DO HAVE EMOTION
AND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK
YOU, BABY. I'M SORRY. ITEM
NUMBER 16 24 46 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDEN. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED,
BUT FIRST DEMANDED RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. ALLEN. BATES.
ALRIGHT, DOLLY. MCGUIRE SKINNER
I STERN WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI.
AYE. HIS FOUR VOTES WILL HOLD
THE ROLL OPEN. THANK YOU. WANT
TO TAKE OKAY? CÁC CENTER
MCCARTHY WANTS I MEAN SOME OF
THE MEMBERS MCCARTHY THIS IS
ITEM NUMBER 18 NO 17 27 100 ON
ELECTRIFICATION. ASSEMBLYMAN
MCCARTHY. SENATOR MCCARTHY. JUST
DON'T CALL ME CONGRESSMAN
MCCARTHY. AND THERE ARE NOT A
GOOD ONE TOO SOON. YES THESE ARE
FINE CALIFORNIA AS WELL. THANK
YOU, OKAY. READY THANK YOU,
SENATOR. THIS IS A BILL BEFORE
US TO FOCUS ON THE ELECTRICAL
GRID GETTING READY FOR OUR
TRANSITION TO BEING A GLOBAL
LEADER IN CLEAN CARS, WHETHER
OUR FLEET OR OR PASSENGER
VEHICLES, YOU KNOW THAT
CALIFORNIA IS A GLOBAL LEADER IN
TACKLING CLIMATE CHANGE AND
LEADS THE NATION IN SETTING AND
MAINTAINING AIR QUALITY
STANDARDS, HOWEVER, ARE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR REMAINS.
THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF POLLUTION
, GREENHOUSE GAS IN THE STATE.
AND AS WE TRANSITION TO OUR NEW
FUTURE WAS ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES. IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT
WE FOCUS ON THE ELECTRICAL GRID.
PLANNING IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE
THE GRIDS RATE OF SUPPORT THE
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ELECTRIC
CHART ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE IN
REGIONS WITH A HIGH
CONCENTRATION OF MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES SUCH AS
AREAS NEAR PORTS, WAREHOUSES,
DEPOTS AND, OF COURSE, THE AG
AREAS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. HOW
TO MEET THIS DEMAND. MANY HEAVY
DUTY CHARGING STATIONS WILL
REQUIRE LOCAL DISTRIBUTION GRID
UPGRADES. THESE UPGRADES CAN
TAKE YEARS, CREATING A
BOTTLENECK THAT COULD DELAY OUR
PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIC
PROFESSION. SCHOOLS BY REQUIRING
THE ENERGY COMMISSION TO SHARE
ELECTRIC FLEET DATA WITH THE
UTILITIES AGAIN. DATA HAS
ALREADY BEEN COLLECTED. IT WILL
HELP US BETTER PLAN FOR THE
FUTURE. WITH ME TODAY ARE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM SO CAL
EDISON AND PERSON AND RDC VIA
THE PHONE. I ASKED. THANK YOU.
JUST SO IN MAYBE I'M READING THE
STAFF REPORT WRONG, BUT THERE
WERE AMENDMENTS IN THE SENATE
AND CHANGE COMMITTEE AND
UTILITIES THAT YOU AGREED TO.
ARE WE ACCEPTING THEM HERE? THEY
WERE AGREED TO. THEY'RE NOT IN
PRINT YET. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TESTIMONY
TODAY THAT THE GROUPS WHO WERE
PREVIOUSLY SUPPOSED OR AND
SUPPORT ASSUMING THAT AMENDMENTS
TAKE PLACE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. VERY GOOD. THERE'S
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT
CLARIFICATIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED
IN. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE
AGGREGATION OF. OF THE
INFORMATION WAS COMPETE. WE
WEREN'T GOING TO GIVE ANY
PERSONAL INFORMATION, CORRECT.
LET'S HAVE EDISON COME FORWARD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ADAM SMITH AND
IN CALIFORNIA TO SEND SHARING
OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR A B 2700
AS YOU HEARD THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD HAS PROMULGATED, YOU KNOW
IMPORTANT REGULATIONS TO
ENCOURAGE THE SWITCH TO ELECTRIC
VEHICLES. ADVANCED CLEAN FLEETS
RULE INNOVATIVE, CLEAN TRANSIT.
THE ADVANCED CLEAN TRUCKS RULE.
THERE'S JUST A LOT THAT THEY'RE
DOING, AND THAT LEADERSHIP IS
HAVING REAL RESULTS AS THE PORTS
WAREHOUSES AND OTHER BUSINESSES
INCREASINGLY SWITCHED TO
ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THE GRID IS READY FOR
THEM. A B 2700 GETS UTILITIES
WHAT WE NEED TO PLAN
APPROPRIATELY AND THEN IT
DIRECTS US TO TAKE ACTION. THE
BILL WOULD PROVIDE UTILITIES
WITH ANNUAL FLEET DATA, ALLOWING
UTILITIES TO FORECAST AND
ANTICIPATE FUTURE
ELECTRIFICATION EXPANSION WITH
GREATER CONFIDENCE THAN WE HAVE
TODAY. THIS DATA WILL INFORM
PLANS THAT WE, THE INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITIES WOULD SEND IT TO
PC FOR APPROVAL AND ONCE
APPROVED, WE GO AND GET TO WORK.
WE THINK THE AUTHOR AND THE
SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS GOOD
IDEA FORWARD. WE SUPPORT IT AS
AN IMPLEMENTING UTILITY AND
URGED THE MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT IT TODAY AS
WELL. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ERM
SMITH WITH THE NRDC. GOOD
AFTERNOON MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
MILES MUELLER, CLIMATE, CLEAN
ENERGY ATTORNEY AT PROVED TO
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF AMY 2700.
AT LEAST 2700 IS A CRITICAL
MEASURE FOR KEEPING CALIFORNIA
ON TRACK WHICH OF ITS AIR
QUALITY CLIMATE GOALS BY
ENSURING THE ELECTRICAL GRID IS
PREPARED TO SUPPORT
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.
CALIFORNIA HAS AMBITIOUS GOALS
AND REGULATIONSFOR ELECTRIFYING
THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR,
INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR'S GOALS
OF HAVING 100% OF NEW CAR SALES.
THE COMMISSION BY 2035. TO MEET
THIS GOAL. STATE AGENCIES
ESTIMATES THAT CALIFORNIA WANTED
ROUGHLY 1.2 MILLION CHARGERS AND
EIGHT MILLION TVS ON THE ROAD BY
2030. HOWEVER THE CURRENT
ADJUSTMENT TIME APPROACH FOR
BUILDING GRID UPGRADES WHEN
CUSTOMERS INTEGRATING LARGE
ELECTRIFICATION LOADS. REQUEST-UTILITY SERVICE RESULT IN DELAYS
, BARRIERS AND LARGER COUGH.
THAT WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE IT
DIFFICULT TO REALIZE THAT
CLIMATE AND TRANSPORTATION GOALS
SET BY CALIFORNIA'S EXECUTIVE
ORDERS AND STATE REGULATIONS
LIKE THE ADVANCED CLEAN TRUCKS
AND ADVANCED SO IN ORDER TO
PREPARE THE GRID TO ADEQUATELY
SERVE ALL THE NEW ELECTRIC CARS
AND TRUCKS COMING OVER THE NEXT
DECADE, WE NEED A MORE PRACTICAL
APPROACH TO GRID PLANNING AND
SERVING THOSE CUSTOMERS. 80 2700
WOULD ENABLE THIS BY BETTER
INFORMING STRATEGIC PLANNING. SO
WE HAVE THE GRID. WE NEED TO
ACCOMMODATE WIDESPREAD
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION
WHEN WE NEEDED TO MEET THE
STATE'S CLIMATE, AIR QUALITY AND
EQUITY GOALS. AND RELATED
REGULATIONS. WE APPRECIATE THE
OFFICE LEADERSHIP IN ADVANCING
THIS COMMON SENSE PROPOSAL AND
RESPECTFULLY HEARD YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU. FORGET THERE'S OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE IN
ROOM 1200 AT THE STREET BUILDING
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 2700. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS TRANSMIT
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION
WERE ONE OF THOSE GROUPS
REFERENCE WITH REGARDS TO THE
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE TAKEN IN
THIS COMMITTEE WITH THOSE
AMENDMENTS. WE THOSE ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS. WE WILL THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR WORKING WITH US.
KAYLA ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF CAL
STAR IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. VERY
GOOD MODERATOR, WILL YOU PLEASE
CUE THE FOLKS ON THE WOULD LIKE
TO JOIN US TELEPHONICALLY AND
TESTIFYING SUPPORT OF A B 2700.
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO. WE'LL GO FIRST TO
LINE ONE ON ONE. JULIE MELANIE'S
PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ELECTRIC
TRANSPORTATION COALITION IN
SUPPORT QUÊ LINE 94. 9 94 1
MONTH FOR ME, GO AHEAD. JESSE
SCHNELL, REPRESENTING 3 50
SACRAMENTO IN SUPPORT. LINE 100.
LIMÓN AMARILLAS GREENLINING
INSTITUTE AND SUPPORT LINE ONE
OR TWO. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE LINE
ONE. OH, TWO. WE'RE HAVING
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. LINE ONE
ONTO YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GO
AHEAD. GET OFF ON BEHALF OF THE
ADVANCED ENERGY ECONOMY AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN CUBA AT THIS
TIME. VERY GOOD. LET'S TO FOLLOW
THE SAME PROCEDURE FOR THE
OPPOSITION. THOSE IN FAVOR. ARE
THOSE OPPOSED TO 2700. PLEASE
COME FORWARD, SIR. MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS CHRISTIAN MOTO WITH
CALIFORNIA TRUCKING ASSOCIATION
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR AND HIS
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US. WE
ARE CURRENTLY FORMALLY OPPOSED
UNLESS AMENDED, HOWEVER, HAVE AN
AGREEMENT ON A SMALL TWEAK TO
THE INTENT LANGUAGE ON THE FLEET
DATA GATHERING SECTION OF THE
BILL THAT WILL RESULT IN US
REMOVING OPPOSITION WHEN THE
BILL IS FORMALLY AMENDED. THANK
YOU. OKAY? MODERATED LET'S TURN
TO THE PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
AND OPPOSITION AT A B 2700.
PLEASE CUE THEM UP SPEAKING
OPPOSITION. PARDON ME TO SEEK AN
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. MR CHAIRMAN. THERE
ARE NO LINES IN Q CONCERNS ABOUT
COLLECTING TRADE SECRETS HAS
BEEN SETTLED. ALRIGHT LET'S
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
AND THE WHOLE QUESTIONS OF
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MCCARTHY.
SENATOR SKINNER. I STILL
REMEMBER YOU MAKE CLOTHES. THANK
YOU ASK FOR YOUR RIVAL. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. I DON'T KNOW.
ITEM NUMBER 17 27 100 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTY MOTION
IS PASSED AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDING WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALLEN. BATES. DELI. MCGUIRE
SKINNER. SKINNER I STERN STERN
WIECKOWSKI. WIECKOWSKI I, THANKS
VERY MUCH FOR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND TEMPORARY MEMBERS
INCLUDED. WE HAVE NOW CONCLUDED
OUR CALENDAR FOR JUNE 29TH. 2000
AND 22. SO AT THIS TIME, I ASKED
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND
APPOINTED MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE TO RETURNS WILL GO
THROUGH THE ROLL CALL. LIFT THE
CALL ON MATTERS BEFORE BEFORE
US. WE TAKE A SHORT PAUSE.
ALRIGHT UM ALRIGHT, LET'S LIFT
THE CALL ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. AH! OKAY SO MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE TURNED THEIR
ATTENTION TO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR, WHICH CONSISTS OF ITEM
NUMBER 14 BY MR GARCIA A B 28
77. AND I REMEMBER 18 A B 28 7
BY SIMILAR MEMBER BONTA IS THEIR
EMOTIONS. I THINK. SENATOR STERN
MOVES PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CONSENT ITEMS, NUMBER OF 14 AND
18 DO PASS AND BE ORDERED TO THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. ALAN BATES,
DOLLY MCGUIRE, SKINNER. SKINNER
I STERN STERN. I WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI I WE ITEM NUMBER ONE
ÁP 26 267 BY VALID AIRES WAS A
SUBJECT WE'RE IN A SUBCOMMITTEE
. IS THERE A MOTION TO PROVE
THAT MATTER?
THIS IS THE PRESENTATION. DID
THE AUTHOR TAKE ALL THE
AMENDMENTS THAT COMMITTEE HE
DID? DID THAT LIMIT THE
OPPOSITION OR NOT REMOVE
OPPOSITION OR NOT? CLUB
EVERYBODY LOGICAL DIVERSITY. CBD
AND SYRUP POSE. I DON'T KNOW,
BUT THEIR OPPOSITION OKAY? I
MOVED THE BILL. THERE'S A MOTION
BY SINNER. SKINNER, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. ITEM NUMBER ONE, MAYBE
2 67 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
VALLADARES. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDING WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
ALLEN BEATS DOLLY. MCGUIRE
SKINNER SKINNER I STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI I THAT
MATTERS. PUT BACK ON HOLD.
LIKEWISE REMEMBER TO MAYBE 661
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT
NEEDS TO MOST OF THE BILL MOTION
BY SENATORS. SKINNER PLEAE CALL
THE ROLL ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 661
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMEND IN RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. ALLEN. BATES
DELI. MCGUIRE SKINNER, SKINNER.
I STERN WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. A
THREE VOTES WILL PUT THAT MATTER
ON CALL. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER
THREE A. B 16 42 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALAS. THERE IS
A NEED EMOTION. THERE'S A MOTION
PLEASE CALL ALL THE OTHER BILLS
HAVE MOTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY
THAT'S RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. ALRIGHT ITEM
NUMBER THREE A B 16 42 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALAS. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED
BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 50.
CHAIR VOTING I VICE CHAIR VOTING
I MCGUIRE SKINNER SKINNER. I PUT
THAT MATTER ON CALL FOR THE
ABSOLUTE MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
FOUR A B 16 58 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S NHÀ NGUYEN ON
OIL SPILL RESPONSE IT THERE
NEEDS A MOTION. IS THERE A
MOTION. THIS MATTER WAS FORMALLY
AND CONSENT. YOU HIT YOU HAVE
THE REAL CHAIR. YOU CAN MOVE IT
. I AM THE ACTING CHAIR, I YEAH,
I DID NOT VOTE IN COMMITTEE,
OKAY? YEAH. AND IT PASSED OUT.
CATCH HIM. DO WHAT YOU WANT.
OUCH MOVE THE BILL. THERE IS A
MOTION BY SENATOR SKINNER.
PLEASE CALL NOBODY'S MEMBERS.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR A B 16 58 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WHEN THE MOTION
IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST BE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. ALAN BATES DELI.
MCGUIRE SKINNER. STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI, AYE. OKAY
THAT BACKGROUND CALL NOW. ITEM
NUMBER FIVE A B 17 49 AND
COMMUNITY EMISSION REDUCTION
PROGRAMS. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSOLUTE MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE A B 17 49 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CRISTINA GARCIA
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND IN RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 31
CHAIR VOTING, AYE. DELI I'M
SORRY DOLLY VOTED MCGUIRE STERN.
AYE, STERN. AYE. ALL RIGHT. PUT
THAT MATTER BACK ON CALL ITEM
NUMBER SIX A. B 26 49 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA ON
NATURAL CARBON SEQUESTRATION.
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
NUMBER 6 26 49 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CRISTINA GARCIA
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS. BUT
FIRST WE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE
BOAT IS TO VICE CHAIR VOTING.
NO. ALAN MCGUIRE STERN. AYE
STERN. I PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON
CALL ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A. B 18
17 BY SOME OF THE MEMBER KING ON
P FAST, PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A B
18 17 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EATING
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED THE VOTERS 30 CHAIR
VOTING, AYE. BATES MCGUIRE
SKINNER. ADAM SEVEN, AND PFS
SKINNER. AYE. I PUT THAT MATTER
BACK ON CALL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A
. B 18 79 BY. A SIMILAR MATHIS
ON FRIVOLOUS COMPLAINTS BEFORE
THE WATER QUALITY BOARD. ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT. MAYBE 18 79 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MATHIS. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMENDED. WE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
THE VOTE IS 30 CHAIR, VOTING I
VICE CHAIR VOTING I MCGUIRE
SKINNER SKINNER. I STERN
WIECKOWSKI NOT VOTING BECAUSE
KEY NOT BOOTING. I AM NUMBER AND
PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON COAL
ITEM NUMBER NINE A. B 1931 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RIVAS ON LEAD
PIPES. PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS NUMBER 9 1931 BY A SEMI
MEMBER THREE OF US. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED, BUT
FIRST AMEND IN RE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
THE VOTE. IS 30 WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I BATES VALLEY. MCGUIRE
SKINNER SKINNER. AYE. THIS IS
THIS IS. SENATOR DOLLY THIS IS A
B 1931. UNLESS PIPES BY RIVAS.
RIGHT I THOUGHT YOU REALLY NOT
VOTING. OKAY? YEAH HOLD ON. HAVE
YOU CLOSED THE ROLL ON? SORRY,
SIR. NO, NOTHING GOT CLOSE. FACT
WILL PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON
CALL. UM WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 11
A B 1985 BY SOME MEMBER REVIS ON
ORGANIC WASTE AND PROCUREMENT.
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
ITEM NUMBER 11 1985 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S UM.
ROBERT RIVAS THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDED, WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS VOTE
IS 50 CHAIR VOTING. I'VE ISTRIA
VOTING I MCGUIRE STERN. HIæN I
BATTER MATTER BACK ON CALL ITEM
NUMBER 12 A B 21 OH, SIX, ALSO
BY SIMILAR MEMBER ROBERT RIVAS
ON WATER QUALITY PERMITS. PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS NUMBER
12 18 21 OH, SIX BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ROBERT RIVAS.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND IN RE
REFER. THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 332
CHAIR, VOTING I VICE CHAIR
VOTING NO MCGUIRE STERN. HI. I.
PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON CALL
ITEM NUMBER 13 20 TO 48 BY A
SIMILAR MEMBER GARCIA ON THE
CALIFORNIA MEXICO CROSS BORDER
RIVERS. PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 13 A B 20
TO 48 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GARCIA. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED. BUT FIRST AMENDMENT
WE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 50
CHAIR, VOTING I VICE CHAIR
VOTING I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE EYES
SKINNER. SKINNER. AYE. CLOSE THE
ROLE. TELE TWO VOTE. THE VOTE IS
70 THAT MATTER IS OUT. BINGO
ITEM NUMBER 14. WHAT'S NOT
CONSENT. I AM NUMBER 15 23 62 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MULLEN
REGARDING ENVIRONMENTALLY
BENEFICIAL PROJECTS. PLEASE CALL
THE EPISODE MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
15 A BEAT 30 23 62 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MULLEN. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMEND IN RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 50
CHAIR VOTING. I'M VICE CHAIR
VOTING I MCGUIRE BY MAGUIRE I.
SKINNER. SKINNER I SEVEN TALLY
THE VOTES. 70 THAT MATTERS OUT,
UH, NUMBER 16 A B 24 46 BY SEVEN
MEMBER HOLDIN ON CARBON
EMISSIONS AS AMENDED, PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM
NUMBER 16 24 46 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDEN THE
MOTION IS PASSED AS AMENDED, BUT
FIRST AMENDING WE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
THE VOTE IS 40. VICE CHAIR
VOTING. SPORTING I, ALAN. DOLLY
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE? AYE. PUT THAT
MATTER BACK ON CALL ITEM NUMBER
17 A B 2700 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
MCCARTHY ON TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRIFICATION. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 17
27 100 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
MCCARTHY. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND IN
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 30.
PALIN. BATES DAILY MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE, I SUPPORT THAT MATTER
BACK ON CALL. CALL LET'S REOPEN
THE VOTE ON THE TWO MATTERS ON
THE CONSENT CALENDARS. THIS IS
ITEM NUMBER 14 BY SOME MEMBER
DRINKING WATER FOR THE TRIBES
AND I REMEMBER 18. MAYBE 28 7 BY
A SIMILAR NUMBER OF PONTA ON UM
, HARBOR CRAFT FUNDING. PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS, NUMBER
14 AND NUMBER 18 DO PASS AND BE
ORDERED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THE MOTION IS 30. I'M SORRY. THE
VOTE IS 30, ALAN BATES. DALLI
DALLI. AYE MCGUIRE REQUIRE. I
PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON ON CALL.
LET'S OPEN THE ROLL ON A BEAT
NUMBER. I AM NUMBER ONE, BABY.
267 BY VALLADOLID. DORIS PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM
NUMBER ONE BY EIGHT A B 2 67 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S VALLADARES. THE
MOTION IS PASSED AS AMENDED, BUT
FIRST AMENDING WE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
THE VOTE IS 20 ALLEN. BATES
DOLLY, DOLLY, I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE
. I PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON CALL
ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 661 BY SOME
MEMBER BENNETT AND RECYCLED
MATERIALS. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER TWO
A B 661 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSES AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS 30 ALLEN. I
BATES DAILY. SALLY NO. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE. AYE. I PUT THAT MATTER
BACK ON CALL. MR CHAIR. THE
FLOOR IS YOURS. WE'RE ON. WE'RE
OPENING THE ROLE ON ITEM NUMBER
THREE. OKAY? LET'S OPEN THE ROLE
AND NUMBER THREE. THIS IS REALLY
SALAS AS A B 16 42. SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU
, MADAM NUMBER 3 16 42 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALAS. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED
BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS VOTE IS 60. TRY
VOTING. I'VE ISTRIA VOTING
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE. I 70. THAT
BUILDS OUT WORKING IN THE FIXED
ASSEMBLY ISSUE, BUT WE'RE GONNA
FIX. OKAY, LET'S GO TO ITEM
FOUR. THAT'S A B 16 58
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
NUMBER FOUR A. B 16 58 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WHEN THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST THE ROOF
BE RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS
10 ALAN BATES, DALLI DALLI, AYE,
MCGUIRE. 330. OKAY BILL FAILS.
UM MOM? MOM, MOM, MOM, DID BATES.
HAS IT CAUSING FURTHER. OKAY
LET'S NOW GO TO CRISTINA GARCIA
A B 17 49 ITEM NUMBER FIVE A. B
17 49 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CRISTINA GARCIA. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMEND IN RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE
VOTE IS FOR ONE CHAIR VOTING,
AYE. BEATS MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE.
LET'S DOWN CLOSE THE RULING THAT
LET'S NOW GO TO A B 26 49
CRISTINA GARCIA. ITEM NUMBER 6
26 49 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CRISTINA GARCIA. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS. BUT FIRST WE RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 3322. VOTING NO, ALAN. HI. I MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE? AYE. IT'S 5 TO 2 WEEK
LOWS ARE ON THAT BUILDS OUT A B
ITEM. SEVEN ABC 7 18 17 TINGS
BILL. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A B 18
17 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED.
THE VOTE IS 40 CHAIR VOTING I
BATES MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE? AYE.
OKAY THAT'S THAT'S 5 TO 0 WHERE
THAT BILL IS DONE. ABATES STILL
NEEDS TO VOTE. OKAY SO WE WILL
NOT CLOSE THERE ON THAT. LET'S
NOW GO TO ITEM EIGHT. THIS IS A
B 18 79 MATHIS. ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT A B 18 79 BY SIMPLY MEMBER
MATHIS. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND IN
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 50
CHAIR VOTING I DISTRIBUTING, I
MCGUIRE. OKAY SO HE'S LAYING OFF
. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN
COMMITTEE, YOU CAN SWITCH BACK
TO ABSTENTION. ABSTAINED YOU
HAVE TO GO. I DON'T KNOW THE
FLOOR. YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE
NOW, BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN GO TO
ABSTAIN. HE JUST MADE A MISTAKE.
YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? YEAH THAT'S
FINE PURPOSES. POINT, SO STERN,
I DON'T KNOW. 18 79 WITH THE
RULES STILL OPEN. THESE ARE ALSO
OFTEN. MY SISTER AND I DON'T
KNOW. YES. OKAY ELEVATOR STOPPED
AT EVERY FLOOR, TOO. AND WE HAD
BASES RECORDED FOR THAT. NO, NOT
5 TO 05 TO ONE. I DON'T KNOW. 5
TO 1. THAT BILL IS STILL OUT.
OKAY WE'LL CLOSE THE ROLE ON
THAT. LET'S GO TO A B 1931.
THAT'S UMTHREE OF US IS BILL
ITEM NINE. ITEM NUMBER 9 1931 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THREE OF US.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDED RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS FOR
ZERO CHAIR VOTING, AYE. BATES
DOLLY MCGUIRE MCGUIRE? AYE. 5 TO
0 WILL CLOSE THE ROLE ON THAT.
LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER. INTENDS
TO IMPORT ITEM 11 A B 1985
ROBERT RIVAS NUMBER 11 A B 1985
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ROBERT RIVAS
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND AND WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 60
CHAIR, VOTING I VICE CHAIR,
INCLUDING I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE. I
70. OKAY THAT'S 70. WE'LL CLOSE
THE ROLE IN THAT. I AM 12 21.
OH, SIX. MM NUMBER 12 A B 21 OH,
SIX BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ROBERT
RIVAS. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES
A MINUTE BUT FIRST AMEND AND WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS FOR
TWO CHAIR VOTING I VICE CHAIR
VOTING NO MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE. I,
TOO. OKAY? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE
THE ROLE ON THAT. LET'S GO TO
ITEM 13 BARDO GARCIA'S A B 20 TO
48. THAT ONE'S CLOSED, OKAY?
HAVE CONSENT COUNTER IS THAT
CLOSED? NO LET'S REOPEN THE ROLE
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND
CONSIDER ITEMS NUMBER 14 AND 18
. THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE
ORDERED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION IS 50 ALAN BATES BATES.
AYE. OKAY? CLOSER ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. THAT'S OUT. I AM 15 23
62. WE DO THAT AT ALL DONE,
OKAY. I AM 16 24 46 NUMBER 16 24
46 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDEN
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 50.
CHRIST YOU'RE VOTING. I, ALAN, I
60. AT SIX YEARS OUT, MAYBE 2700
MCCARTHY. I AM NUMBER 17 27 100
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTHY.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDMENT WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 40.
ALAN BATES. SALLY. HIM. VIBE
ZERO DID. OKAY. WHAT ELSE WE
HAVE IS EVERYTHING. I DO, BUT I
DIDN'T VOTE ON THE ONE I
PRESENTED ITEM FOUR. OKAY SO WE
NEED TO REOPEN THE ROLE AND ITEM
FOUR. IT'S GENUINE. XABI 16 58.
PRESENTED SO I SHOULD BE VOTING.
OKAY MM. I DON'T NUMBER FOUR, UM
, ASSEMBLY BILL 16 58 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WEN THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS, BUT FIRST BABY
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 30
THE CHAIR VOTING? I BATES? AYE.
OKAY AND I KNOW IT WILL CLOSE
THE ROLE. THAT'S 40. IT'S GOTTA
THINGS BILL AND HIM SEVEN A B 18
17. I AM SEVEN. ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN A B 18 17 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED.
THE VOTE IS 50 CHAIR VOTING I
BATES. IT'S NEW. WENT INTO
BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET TO VOTE ON
THOSE, OKAY? LOOKS LIKE WE NEED
TO GO TO THAT ONE'S FIVE VOTES.
5 TO 1. OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE
ROLE IN THAT ONE. SHE'S ALSO
SAYING WE NEED TO DO NUMBERS ONE
AND TWO. ITEM NUMBER ONE, MAYBE
2 67 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
VALLADARES. THE MOTION IN HIS DO
PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDING, WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE
VOTE IS 40 ALLEN. SPECS? AYE.
HANG ON ONE SECOND.
ALRIGHT LET'S SEE. OKAY. LET'S
GO TO ITEM TWO. BENNETT 6 61.
ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 6 61 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMEND IN RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS FOR
ONE CHAIR VOTING. I BATES NÓI.
OKAY OKAY. 4 TO 2. OKAY. WELL,
LET'S NOT LET'S SORRY. THANK
YOU. CARD. LET'S REOPEN THE ROLE
ON A B 2 67 ITEM ONE. ITEM
NUMBER OF ONE A B 2 67 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S VALLADARES. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMENDING WE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
THE VOTE IS 50 ALLEN. I OKAY?
ALRIGHT. I DO WANT TO TAKE A
MOMENT AND BECAUSE THIS IS
ACTUALLY OUR VICE CHAIRS. LAST
SCHEDULED EQ HEARING. WE'RE NOT
GONNA DO ANYTHING AT ALL. I'M
SURE THERE WILL BE UNSCHEDULED
HEARINGS IN AUGUST. IF MY
EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW IS ANYTHING. IT IS INSTRUCTIVE, BUT I JUST
WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR LEADERSHIP,
OBVIOUSLY, BOTH IN THIS
COMMITTEE BUT ALSO SYSTEM WIDE.
I GUESS YOU HAD 14 YEARS. EIGHT
YEARS ON YOUR FULL FULL EIGHT
YEARS IN THE SENATE, 16 THE
ASSEMBLY AND YOU'VE BEEN A
MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE FOR SIX
YEARS, WHICH IS CERTAINLY LONGER
THAN ME. IT'S QUITE A FEAT. THIS
COMMITTEE IS NOT FOR THE FAINT
OF HEART. AS WE ALL KNOW, WE
DEAL WITH SOME REALLY TOUGH
SCIENTIFIC ISSUES AND
CONTENTIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE
CRITICAL TO PROTECTING OUR
ENVIRONMENT. BUT I HAVE TO JUST
I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS PUBLICLY.
UNFORTUNATELY, SO MANY PEOPLE
ARE GONE NOW, BUT HOW MUCH I
APPRECIATE HAVING YOU AS MY
FRIEND AND PARTNER AND VICE
CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. IF YOU
KNOW IF YOUR COLLEGIAL DEMEANOR
YOUR RESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTION
IN OUR SYSTEM AND HAS BEEN HAS
BEEN SO APPRECIATED, WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER ON SO MANY
DIFFERENT ISSUES. ALSO YOUR
WONDERFUL MINORITY SIDE STAFF.
SO I'M REALLY GONNA MISS YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
SERVICE TO THIS COMMITTEE INTO
OUR SENATE. I KNOW WE'RE GONNA
HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
SPEAK TO YOUR MANY VIRTUES OVER
THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT I
DID WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO
THIS COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR
PATH THINK SERVING ON THE
COMMITTEE WHILE IT'S BEEN
DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF
INFORMATION AND THE KNOWLEDGE
YOU HAVE TO HAVE. AND IN
ASSESSING SUPPORTER OPPOSE. IT'S
BEEN AN INCREDIBLE LEARNING
EXPERIENCE THAT I WILL TAKE WITH
ME. CAN FOLLOW. CERTAINLY WHEN
I'M NO LONGER A MEMBER OF THE
BODY HERE IS SOMETHING THAT I
WOULD TAKE TO THE COMMUNITY
BECAUSE I'LL CONTINUE MY WORK,
VOLUNTEER WISE OR WHATEVER.
BECAUSE WE LEARNED SO MUCH AND
WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN
THIS VERY HALLOWED PLACE.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT,
AND I OFTEN SAID I'VE BEEN
ACCUSED FOR THE YEARS I'VE BEEN
HERE. YOU GUYS BEING THE CAREER
POLITICIANS, SO I HAVE A NEW
SPEECH I'VE DEVELOPED AND I
TALKED ABOUT BEING A CAREER
POLICYMAKER. THERE'S NOTHING
MORE HONORABLE THAN THAT.
BECAUSE PEOPLE SEND YOU UP HERE
TO REPRESENT THEM. AND YOU HAVE
TO MAKE DECISIONS ON POLICIES
THAT AFFECT THEIR LIFE, NOT JUST
THEIRS, BUT THEIR FAMILY GOING
FORWARD, THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR
GRANDCHILDREN, ALL OF OURS, SO
TO HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND
THAT HONOR TO ME, IT'S REALLY
DEMEANING TO SAY PEOPLE ARE
CAREER POLITICIANS WHO CAN BE A
DOCTOR FOR 40 YEARS. YOU CAN BE
YOU CAN'T BE AN AIRLINE PILOT AS
LONG BUT CHILD. THOSE ARE THINGS
THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US REALLY
WORK ON SO THAT THE PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THAT THE VOTE THAT
THEY MAKE OUT THERE IS SOME VERY
IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE
SENDING UP HERE TO REFLECT.
CALLED THEIR VALUES AND I TAKE
THAT AS I HAVE VERY SERIOUS
RESPONSIBILITY AND COMMITMENT.
SO I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HOPEFULLY DISPLAYED IN THE BEST
WAY POSSIBLE HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE PEOPLE THAT SENT ME HERE,
AND CERTAINLY ALL OF YOU WHO
CONTRIBUTE SO MUCH OF YOUR LIFE
TO BE IN THIS CAREER OF
GOVERNMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
CAN YOU ALL NEED TO GIVE
YOURSELF A HIGH FIVE, AND THAT'S
KIND OF MY CORE VALUES AND THE
PRINCIPLES I TRY TO ABIDE BY
EVEN THOUGH I DO GET MAD AT
TIMES, YOU DO HAVE THAT LITTLE
TRIGGER IN THERE THAT DON'T KNOW
ME. IF THIS IS YOU GETTING MAD,
I MEAN, YEAH, BUT I'VE BEEN ABLE
TO SEE SEE THAT THAT SENSE OF
NOUR AND PUBLIC SERVIE
FIRSTHAND. I JUST WANTED TO
EXPRESS THAT, LIKE EVERY GREAT
TEACHER TO PROFESS YOUR DESIRE
TO LEARN AFTER YOU'VE BECOME
SUCH AN EXPERT IS THE ULTIMATE
HUMILITY. THAT REALLY SHOWS THE
SIGN OF A TRUE TEACHER TO KEEP
LEARNING, SO I HARDLY SEE YOU AS
SOMEONE TRYING TO GET UP TO
SPEED YOUR YOUR YOUR POISE WITH
THESE ISSUES, BUT BUT REALLY THE
KNOWLEDGE BASE, WE WILL MISS YOU
DEARLY, EVEN IF SOMEONE ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO THIS
INSTITUTION WILL MISS THAT
KNOWLEDGE, SO I'M I'M JUST TOUCH
THAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO
KEEP LEARNING BECAUSE THERE'S
JUST THERE'S SO MUCH SO DON'T
DON'T LET ALL THAT LEARNING GO
TO WASTE. WE NEED LEADERSHIP ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND
PROTECTING OUR COAST AND ALL THE
THINGS THAT MATTER, SO THANK
YOU. AND THAT IS I MEAN, YEAH,
NOT DELIVER THE POINT. BUT I
MEAN, I THINK IN THE END OF THE
DAY AND THIS YEAR OF SO MUCH
DIVISION TIME. YOU KNOW, I THINK
WE FOUND ALL SORTS OF PLACES
WHERE WE FOUND A LOT OF COMMON
GROUND AND PARTICULARLY COASTAL
PROTECTION. AND IT TURNS OUT
EVERYBODY, NO MATTER WHERE THEY
ARE IDEOLOGICALLY WANT. THEY
WANT TO CLEAN ENVIRONMENT AND I
THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS VERY MUCH
BELIEVE IN COASTAL PROTECTION,
AND IT'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH
YOU ON THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES AS
WELL. SO THANK YOU GUYS. I
DIDN'T EXPECT IT AT ALL. WE'LL
HAVE TO GET TEARY. YOU KNOW, WE
LADIES GET TEARY OVER THINGS.
BUT I'VE GOT I STILL HAVE TIME.
YET LET ME LET ME ALSO JUST SAY
, I MEAN, AS I SAID, I'M SURE WE
WILL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING. BUT I
DO WANT TO JUST GIVE A SPECIAL
SHOUT OUT TO OUR INCREDIBLE
STAFF. GOD THEN ME, ME AND ERIC
AND JACOB, WHO JUST STEPPED UP
IN SUCH AN IMPRESSIVE WAY OVER
THE COURSE OF THE SESSION.
INTELLIGENCE. DETAILED
ANALYTICAL SKILLS AND DEDICATION
TO POLICY WORK TO OUR MISSION. A
LOT OF PATIENTS BEYOND MEASURE
DEALING WITH ME AND ALL OF OUR
COLLEAGUES ON A LOT OF REALLY
MEDIA ISSUES DEALING WITH
SENATOR STERN, UH, BUT NO A LOT
A LOT OF REALLY MEDIA ISSUES. I
MEAN, IT'S A TOUGH, TOUGH ISSUES
WITH A LOT OF CONFLICTING
INTERESTS AND YOUR ABILITY TO
THROW OUT A BUNCH OF TOUGH
NEEDLES. I THINK I JUST MY HAT'S
OFF TO YOU. AND I JUST REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU
PUT IN MAKING THIS COMMITTEE'S
WORK SUCCESS OVER THE COURSE OF
THE PAST SESSION. OF COURSE.
EVAN GOLDBERG. EVAN GOLDBERG,
WHO'S NOT HERE. UM THAT'S WHAT
YOU GET FROM HERE. NO, BUT
SERIOUSLY, I'VE BEEN AS WELL AS
STEPPED IN TO PROVIDE US WITH
SOME REALLY NEEDED EXTRA
SUPPORT. OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF
MONTHS AND HIS WISDOM AND
EXPERIENCE WHERE WE'RE REALLY,
REALLY HELPFUL. SO THANK YOU
HAVING ALL EVERYTHING I SAID
ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE GOES
TO YOUTUBE. SENATOR I WOULD JUST
ADD FOR DEALING WITH A VERY
OFFICIOUS INTER MEDDLER OF
COMMITTEE MEMBER HERE WHO IS
CONSTANTLY YOU KNOW? SKEPTICAL
AND LOOKING FOR ISSUES AND I
JUST I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE
WHEREWITHAL FROM ALL THE STAFF,
INCLUDING THE GREAT FIXER AND
PROFESSIONAL, MR GOLDBERG.
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, SO LET ME
JUST SAY THANK YOU. TRULY YOUR
PATIENT AND RESILIENT AND
ULTIMATELY ACCURATE, WHICH IS
THE THING WE CAN ON YOU MOST
FOUR. SO THANKS FOR EVERYTHING.
I DIDN'T THINK, SCOTT BECAUSE HE
IS HE CAME ON. THIS WAS IT, UH,
THIS YEAR I AM TRYING TO GET PRE
PANDEMIC POST PANDEMIC, BUT HE'S
DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, SO
CERTAINLY THE WIND BETWEEN AMONG
BEHIND OUR WINGS, THE WIND
BENEATH OUR WINGS. CERTAINLY OUR
STAFF AND I THINK YOU GUYS AGREE
BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE THAT DO
THE HEAVY LIFTING AND TRY TO,
YOU KNOW, FIND US THE BEST SPOT
TO BE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE
ISSUES. CERTAINLY WE REPUBLICANS
ON SOME OF THIS, BUT SCOTT DOES
A FABULOUS JOB, ESPECIALLY IN
CAUCUS. BRINGING US UP TO SPEED
ON THE PRO AND THE CON AND AS AN
EXCELLENT JOB OF BEING I THINK
OF FAIR ANALYSIS OF THAT FROM
OUR PERSPECTIVE IT THANKS FOR
THE WORK YOU DO WITH OUR WITH
OUR COMMITTEE STAFF SKY JUST
HELPING TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY
FOCUS ON THE AREAS WHERE WE
WHERE WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS, BUT
ALSO LET THOSE BILLS WHERE WE
HAVE COMMON GROUND AND MOVE
FORWARD AND JUST APPRECIATE
THAT. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR
WORK, TOO. SO WITH THAT, I'M
SURE THEY SAY I HAVE NO DOUBT
THAT WILL BE BACK FOR MORE
EXCITEMENT IN AUGUST, BUT WE'RE
OKAY. WITH ALL OUR VOTES. YOU
MAY BE OKAY. SO WITH THAT, LET'S
LET'S ADJOURN THIS HEARING AND
MUCH MORE FUN IN ENVIRONMENTAL
POLICY TO COME OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS. THANK YOU.