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SENATE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
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SAFETY WILL COME TO ORDER AND
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JUST SAY GOOD MORNING AND WE
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CONTINUE TO TAKE SIMPLE CAUTIONS
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TO MANAGE ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS
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. SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME
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THE PUBLIC HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
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TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
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TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION.
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AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU GUYS. TO
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PROVIDE ACCESS TO BOTH IN PERSON
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TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION IN
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PUBLIC COMMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS
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WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
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COMMENTS VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
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SERVICE PARTICIPANT PARTICIPANT
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TOLL FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE
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IS POSTED ON OUR COMMITTEE
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WEBSITE. AND IT WILL BE
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DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN AND I
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WENT ON TO NOW TODAY'S
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PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 84429163.
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THAT'S 8442916364. AND ACCESS
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CODE IS 56032 5. THAT'S 5603 TO
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5. I WILL MAINTAIN DECORUM
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DURING THE HEARING, AS IS
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CUSTOMARY, AND ANY INDIVIDUAL
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WHO IS DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED
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FROM THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE
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OR HAVE THEIR CONNECTIONS MUTED.
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WE'RE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
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HEARINGS IN THE CAPITAL TODAY.
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WE'RE IN ROOM 1 12 SO WE WOULD
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ASK ALL THE MEMBERS TO REPORT TO
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1 12 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
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QUORUM. WE HAVE 41 BILLS TODAY
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ON OUR AGENDA. TWO OF WHICH HAVE
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WHAT HAVE BEEN POURED A B 253 BY
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PATTERSON AND A B 27 26 BY
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LACKEY ARE OFF THEIR AGENDA
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THEY'VE BEEN PUT BY AUTHOR A B
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25 46 BY NASSIRIAN IS VOTE OLD
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ONLY, AND WE HAVE EIGHT ITEMS
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THAT ARE ON CONSENT. A B 12 90 A
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B 16 80. 25 36 25 26 A B 18 28
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25 33 MAYBE 27 17 AND A B 26 16
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29 61 UM AGAIN. WE'RE YET TO
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STOP THE QUORUM. BUT WE DO SEE
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THAT WE HAVE A SIMILAR
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MURATSUCHI SERVE. YOU PREPARED
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TO MAYBE GET.
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I'M HERE REPRESENTING 85. THINK
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IS TO SAY. THE INTERMEDIATE.
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YEAH.
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YES.
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PART OF OURS. ONE.
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Mí
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VALUABLE RESOURCE.
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FOUR. WITH ME HERE TODAY.
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FORWARD PHONE. HIS VOEPEL. RIGHT
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HERE. MRS ONLINE. YOU MAY BEGIN
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YOUR TESTIMONY UP TWO MINUTES.
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PERSON WITNESS. YOU HAVE TWO
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MINUTES. GREG TO SHARE
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REPRESENTING THE ARK AND UNITED
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TRUE POLICY, CALIFORNIA.
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COLLABORATION. I FEEL KIND OF
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DEJA VU. I REMEMBER BEING IN A
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HEARING OF THE ASSEMBLYSELECT
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COMMITTEE ON HATE CRIMES THAT IN
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ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO WE'RE TALKING
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ABOUT POLITICAL PROSECUTION
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UNITS, AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
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THE AUDIT THAT THE LEGISLATIVE
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COMMITTEE ORDERED IN 2017 FOUND
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THAT PROSECUTIONS OF HATE CRIMES
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PRODUCE ABOUT HALF THE
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CONVICTION RATE OF CRIME IS PART
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OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF ITS MORE
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THAN WELL. MUCH OF THAT IS
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BECAUSE IT'S MORE DIFFICULT
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CRIME TO PROVE. AND THERE'S A
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NEED FOR VERTICAL PROSECUTION
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FOR A PROSECUTOR TO WORK WITH
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THE VICTIMS AND WITNESSES FROM
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THE START. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT
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THIS PILOT BROADCAST GOING TO
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CONFIRM THAT I'LL JUST ADD IN
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THE INTEREST OF TIME THAT THE
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2020. CALIFORNIA POLICE AGENCIES
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REPORTED 430 HATE CRIMES TO
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THEIR PROSECUTORS. THAT'S
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UNDOUBTEDLY A LOW NUMBER, BUT
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THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THEY
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THOUGHT HAD GOOD CASES OF THOSE
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430. THEY WERE 46. THAT WERE
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CONVICTED OF 46 OF 430, EVEN IF
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YOU COUNT THE OTHER 62 THAT
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THERE WAS NO REPORTED THIS
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POSITION, BUT IN THE TIME
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AVAILABLE THAT'S A CONVICTION
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RATE OF 23. THESE ARE MANY OF
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THEM CRIMINALS WHO ARE GETTING
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OFF FROM THEIR HATE CRIMES
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BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE
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PROSECUTION, AND WE BELIEVE THIS
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BILL WILL HAVE A LOT AND WE
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SUPPORT THE BILL AND THANK MR
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MARCUCCI FOR HIS LEADERSHIP. CAN
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WE GO TO THE PHONE LINE IS THEIR
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WITNESS MR. PILL AVAILABLE. WHAT
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WAS THE NAME? MODERATORS WITNESS
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AVAILABLE. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF
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THE WITNESS NANCY A PILL. I DO
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NOT HAVE THEM ONLINE. WILL COME
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BACK TO ROOM 1 12. IS THERE ANY
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WITNESSES WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
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SUPPORT OF A B 557. SHEENA
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MODERATOR, LET'S GO TO THE PHONE
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LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
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WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF A B 557.
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU
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WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT, YOU CAN
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PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. IF YOU'RE
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USING A SPEAKER PHONE, HE'S
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REMOVE YOURSELF FROM QUÊ IT
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ANYTIME BY PRESSING 10 AGAIN. UH
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ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
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MAKE A COMMENT, YOU CAN PRESS 10
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AT THIS TIME. ONE MOMENT WHILE
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BE GIVE NUMBERS TO OUR FIRST
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PARTICIPANT.
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SOUNDS LIKE EXACTLY.
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LINE 52. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
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BLIND 50 TO YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
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HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I
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DID MORNING. THIS IS ERICA LEON
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AND I AM A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
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SEXUAL ASSAULT IN HUMAN
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TRAFFICKING THAT OKAY, AND I'M
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CALLING ON BEHALF OF COMMUNITY
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SOLUTIONS, AND IT'S TRUMP'S
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SUPPORT OF A B 2790 TO BILL
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WE'RE ON. WE'RE ON 557. WE'RE
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LOOKING FOR WITNESSES AND
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SUPPORT YOUR NAME AND
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ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU. AT THIS
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TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN QUÊ.
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WILL COME BACK TO OPPOSITION.
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THERE'S NO LEAD WITNESS LISTED
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IN OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE
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HERE IN THE ROOM? 1 12 THAT'S
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WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
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OPPOSITION. MAYBE 557. GINA.
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MODERATOR LET'S GO TO THE PHONE
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LINES FOR WITNESSES AND
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OPPOSITION OF AB 557. IF YOU
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WERE IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS
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LONDON ZERO AT THIS TIME. MR
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KERRY AT THIS TIME WE HAVE
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NOBODY QUEUING UP. WE'LL BRING
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IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. OR IS
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THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
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AS A RELATIONSHIP? BE 557,
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SENATOR CALM WATER? THANK YOU. I
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AM SO I SAW IN THIS THAT IT IS.
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IT'S PURSUANT TO, UM AN
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APPROPRIATION BY THE
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LEGISLATURE. SO DOJ GETS THE
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GRANT THAT IS GREAT AND THEY
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WOULD ADMINISTER THE PART OF THE
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PROGRAM, THEY WOULD HAVE
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RECEIVED THE APPROPRIATION AND
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ADMINISTER THE GRANTS. AND
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THERE'S HMM. IS I GUESS I WAS
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CURIOUS AS TO, UM AND I GET THIS
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BECAUSE IT FOCUSES ON VERTICAL
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PROSECUTION. BUT ARE THERE THERE
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ARE OTHER. PROGRAMS THAT FOCUS
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ON HATE CRIMES THAT ARE BOTH
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ADMINISTERED BY DOJ AND THE A G
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S OFFICE. YES. THAT IS CORRECT,
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ALTHOUGH CURRENTLY THEY
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PRIMARILY FOCUS ON DATA
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COLLECTION. UM, THERE IS A
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BUDGET LINE ITEM LAST YEAR. UM
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AH, LED BY THE ÁP CAUCUS 100
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OVER $150 MILLION TO COMMUNITY
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ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE VICTIM
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SUPPORT SERVICES. THERE'S THE.
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THESE GRANTS ARE INTENDED TO NOT
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ONLY EXPAND AND SUPPORT. UH.
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EXISTING AS WELL AS NEW HATE
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CRIMES OF VERTICAL PROSECUTION
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UNITS, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE
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VICTIM SUPPORT SERVICES THAT CAN. REACH OUT WITH THE VICTIMS OF
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HATE CRIMES, UM, TO COORDINATE
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THEM WITH THOSE KIND OF
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COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
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ORGANIZATIONS. WOULD THERE BE
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ANY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WHAT
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THIS DOES AND SAY, FOR EXAMPLE,
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THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY,
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WHICH I THINK IS ALSO I THINK A
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PRIORITY OF THE OR WAS A
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PRIORITY OF THE AAPI CAUCUS AND
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ALSO PURPORTS TO HELP COLLECT
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DATA AND SUPPORT. UM. THINGS
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THAT WOULD HAVE THE OUTCOME THAT
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I THINK YOU'RE ALSO TRYING TO
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GET AT SO YEAH, DEFINITELY. WE
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WANT TO CREATE A NETWORK OF
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SUPPORT SERVICES FOR VICTIMS OF
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HATE CURRENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
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ARE CONCERNED RELATIONSHIP TO
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THIS MATTER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
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CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY ASK
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WHATEVER. UM COUNCIL. CAN WE
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FIRST JUST SOUTH TO KUALA.
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BRADFORD BRADFORD HERE AT COBO.
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COM BLOGGER KAMLAGER HERE.
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SKINNER SKINNER HERE, WIENER.
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AND IT'S JUST ESTABLISHED. WE
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HAVE A DO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
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IS YOUR EMOTION FOR A B 557? ITS
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BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR SKINNER.
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COUNCIL POLICE CALLED THE ROLL
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557 BRADFORD BRADFORD, I CHOSE
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BOGUE KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER EYE
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SCANNER. SKINNER I WIENER. THAT
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MEASURE HAS THREE VOTES WILL
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LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
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MEMBERS ALSO WANT TO ANNOUNCE
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THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S
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GOING TO BE PULLED UP THE DAY'S
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JOURNEY AGENDA, AND THAT'S MAYBE
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2043 BY JONES SAWYER NEXT, A
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SIMILAR MAN, COOPER THANK YOU,
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SENATOR. AND MR LISTEN, LET ME
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GO IN FRONT OF HIM. BY THE WAY,
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HE'S HERE, BUT HE'S GRACIOUSLY
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ALLOWED ME. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE
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BEING WISHES TO LEARN ME GO IN
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FRONT OF HIM. OH I'M SORRY. I
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DIDN'T OKAY WITH YOU. IS HE OKAY
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WITH THAT? OKAY, ALRIGHT. YES. I
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AM SORRY. SIMILAR IN LAW. I
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DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU BACK THERE.
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THAT SURELY WHEN THEY LET COOPER
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JUMP IN FRONT OF YOU, AH, YOU'RE
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EXACTLY HE'S TRYING TO FLEX
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THOSE SHERIFF MUSCLES ALREADY.
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YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AT ALL. SO
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YOU'RE HERE TO PRESENT 16 37.
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YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU, MR
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CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MINNIE MOUSE,
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POOPY BRITCHES AH, SCOTT
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PETERSON AND CARY STAYNER. IF
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THERE IS NO GIRL WHO JUST
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CELEBRATED HER FIRST BIRTHDAY,
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COLLECTING $167 PER WEEK IN
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UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AFTER HIS
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CLAIM WAS FILED ON HER BEHALF,
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DOING THAT SHE WAS AN UNEMPLOYED
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ACTOR. A CHILDREN'S ZOO
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CARETAKER AND SACRAMENTO
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CLAIMING THAT $124,000 THE NAMES
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AND SCHEMES USED BY FRAUDSTERS
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TO COMMIT WHAT IS ARGUABLY THE
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BIGGEST FRAUD IN CALIFORNIA
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HISTORY. BETWEEN 20 BILLION AND
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30 BILLION AND COUNTING IS THE
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ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF MONEY
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FLEECED BY FRAUDSTERS FROM
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CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS ALL THE
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WHILE LEGITIMATE CLAIMS ARE
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BOTTLED UP IN AN OVERWHELMED AND
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UNDER RESOURCED. E D D SYSTEM
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FRAUD IS WIDESPREAD AND INCLUDES
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CASES OF IDENTITY THEFT AND EVEN
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THE EMPLOYEES COMMITTING FRAUD.
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THE FRAUD STATEWIDE TASK FORCE
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CONTINUES TO INVESTIGATE, MAKE
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ARREST AND CHARGE INDIVIDUALS
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RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FRAUD.
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MONTANA IS MISSING. THE TOOLBOX
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IS A SEIZURE OF GOODS AND CASH
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OBTAINED THROUGH FRAUD. MAYBE 16
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37 SIMPLY AS AN ASSET.
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FORFEITURE IS A TOOL, NOTHING
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MORE. NOTHING LESS ALL
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PROCEDURES LAW ENFORCEMENT MUST
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FOLLOW AND ALL PROTECTIONS
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AFFORDED TO INDIVIDUALS REMAIN
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THE SAME. UNTOUCHED. ON THE LIST
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OF OFFENSES WERE ADDED UNDER
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ASSET FORFEITURE THAT NEED TO
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LIST COVID 19 PANDEMIC RELATED
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INSURANCE FRAUD IS A CRIMINAL
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PROFITEERING ACTIVITY WAS NEVER
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CONTEMPLATED A B 16 37. PROVIDES
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INVESTIGATORS AN IMPORTANT TOOL
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TO RECOVER CASH AND GOODS
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OBTAINED THROUGH UI FRAUD AND
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RETURN AS MUCH AS 20 MILLION
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BACK TO TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU.
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RIGHT YOU HAVE WITNESSES AND
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SUPPORT? NO NO, NO WITNESSES IN
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SUPPORT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
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ROOM 1 12. OH YES. ALRIGHT
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PRIMARY WITNESSES. I'M SORRY. I
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DON'T HAVE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES
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. BUT ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE
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COMMITMENT COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS?
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YES. NIGHT. WILL LET WITNESSES
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AND SUPPORT SPEAK RIGHT NOW. MR
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CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DAN PHYLLIS
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AUTO ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
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ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
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ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT
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THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. GIVING
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STONE STONE ADVOCACY ON BEHALF
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OF THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
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ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN
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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN
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MEMBERS RANDY PERRY WITH ERIN
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REED ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF
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POOR ECON SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
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MORNING MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
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COREY SELLS VILLA ON BEHALF OF
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THE CALIFORNIA STATE
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SHERIFFSASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
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THANK YOU. MORNING, MR CHAIR
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MEMBERS, RYAN SHERMAN WITH THE
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RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION
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AND SUPPORT RIGHT? ANY
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ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
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OF 16 37 HERE IN CHINA AND
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MODERATORS, LET'S GO TO THE
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PHONE LINE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
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, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
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SUPPORT OF THIS BILL, PLEASE
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PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. AT THIS
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TIME WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP.
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ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING IT NOW
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BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ROOM,
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WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. WE
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HAVE ONE PRIMARY WITNESS, AN
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OPPOSITION LESLIE CALDWELL.
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HOUSTON WILL BE CALLING IN
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MODERATOR IS SHE AVAILABLE? I
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DON'T KNOW. WHAT WAS THE NAME?
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LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON.
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FELICITOUS PRIMARY WITNESS AND
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OPPOSITION.
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ALRIGHT ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY
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WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM AND
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OPPOSITION OF 16 37? TARANTINO
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AND MODERATOR. LET'S GO TO THE
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PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
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ANY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION OF
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16 37. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF
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YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
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OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
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THIS TIME. THAN JUST ONE MOMENT
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WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY QUEUED UP.
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ALL RIGHT. LINE IT 27. YOU'RE
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LYING IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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TIGHT THIS IS LESLIE CALDWELL.
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HOUSTON, CAN YOU HEAR ME WE CAN
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HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. I'M CALLING
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FOR CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
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ASSOCIATION. I COULDN'T GET IN
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ON THE OTHER LINE. WE ARE
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WITHDRAWING OUR OPPOSITION.
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THANK YOU. IF THERE ISN'T
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ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
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SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
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PRESS 10 AT THE STATEMENT THAT
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SHE FINISHED HER STATEMENT. SHE
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DID. SHE HAS DROPPED OFF. AND WE
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HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION
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QUEUING UP. WE'LL BRING IT BACK
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TO THE COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY
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QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
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RELATES TO 16 37, SENATOR? CALM
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WATER? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.
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SO HOW I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF
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WORK DONE TO GET RID OF ASSET
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FORFEITURE A FEW YEARS AGO. UM
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IF YOU ARE A FAMILY MEMBER, OR
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YES. IF YOU ARE A FAMILY MEMBER,
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AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
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THE PERPETRATOR WHO IS
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COMMITTING THE FRAUDULENT
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ACTIVITY. UM AND THAT PERSON,
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THE PERPETRATOR IS SUBJECT TO
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ASSET FORFEITURE. THAT ASSET
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FORFEITURE WOULD ALSO AS AN
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UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. IMPACT
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MAYBE FAMILY MEMBERS OR JUST
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UNINTENDED TARGETS WHO HAD
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NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME. SO
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IS THERE A WAY DOES IT SAY? ARE
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THERE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
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ASSET FORFEITURE IS SPECIFICALLY
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TARGETED? UM TO THE PERPETRATOR
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IN QUESTION OR PERPETRATORS?
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BECAUSE SINCE IT'S AN ECONOMIC
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PUNISHMENT, UM THOSE CAN IMPACT
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FOLKS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY
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NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME.
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GREAT QUESTION IS STILL HAS TO
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BE PROVEN THAT WAS GOTTEN
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THROUGH ILL GOTTEN GAINS, AND
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WHEN THE ASSET FORFEITURE BILL
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FIRST CAME THROUGH THE NEVER
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ENVISIONED UM, COVID EPIDEMIC
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AND WHAT TRANSPIRED WITH EDDIE
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WITH THE UI. SO THERE'S STILL
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FOR THE INVESTIGATORS. IN THIS
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CASE, THEY HAVE TO PROVE THE
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NEXUS WITH THAT. SO IF SOMEONE'S
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GOT 100 AND 80 D CARDS AND
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$200,000 YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT
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SO JUST CAN'T JUST BECAUSE MONEY
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MAYBE CO MINGLE THAT CAN'T JUST
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GO AHEAD AND SEES EVERYTHING.
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THERE HAS TO BE A PAPER TRAIL,
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INDICATING THAT MONEY WAS PART
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OF THE FRAUD. OR COULD IT ALSO
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BE? YOU KNOW, HARD ASSETS. SO IF
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YOU USE IT, AND YOU BOUGHT A
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CAR, AND THEN YOU'RE YOU KNOW,
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AND THEN THAT THAT ASSET IS
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THESE DAYS, THAT CAR IS ALSO
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WHAT'S USED TO TAKE THE BABIES
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TO SCHOOL OR TO BUY GROCERIES,
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BUT IT STILL HAS TO SHOW I MEAN,
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YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND SEE
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THAT CAR IS STILL AS SHOW THAT
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TO BE AN EXCESS THAT THAT CAR
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WAS PURCHASED WITH THAT MONEY.
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AND WE JUST SEE SOME CARS
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PURCHASED SOME HIGH END CARS ON
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THAT. SO UM, IT'S THAT THE
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BIGGEST THING I CAN DO TO ALLAY
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YOUR CONCERNS IS THAT THERE HAS
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TO BE A PAPER TRAIL AND TO SHOW
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THAT WAS DIRECTLY CONNECTED. I
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JUST CAN'T GO OUT AND SEES IT,
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SO THERE'S STILL SOME OF THE
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ASSET FORFEITURE STILL APPLIES
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TO THE CURRENT LAW THAT WAS
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PASSED HERE A FEW YEARS AGO.
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SENATOR SCANNER. BY THE
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QUESTIONS OF MY COLLEAGUE GASSED
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AND GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT
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BECAUSE I HAD A BIT OF HEARTACHE
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ON THIS ONE, GIVEN THE WORK
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WE'VE DONE AROUND BECAUSE IT
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DOES EXPAND. UH ASSET FORFEITURE
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BEYOND WHAT WE HAD KIND OF
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PULLED BACK FROM. HOWEVER, I AM
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ALSO GLAD YOU TOOK THE
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AMENDMENTS. AND AH, BECAUSE
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WITHOUT THE AMENDMENTS, I
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WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE
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BILL. BUT I WILL MOVE THEM ALL
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MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU. GREAT.
00:22:51.236 --> 00:22:53.805
UM I HAVE NO ADDITION. YOU'VE
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AGREED TO THE AMENDMENTS
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COMMITTEE COMEDIANS. I WANT TO
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THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US
00:22:58.710 --> 00:22:59.344
ON THOSE AMENDMENTS. OKAY
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ALRIGHT. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO
00:23:01.146 --> 00:23:02.481
CLOSE I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
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YOUR I VOTE, OKAY? WE HAVE A
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DEEP PASS A MOTION TO
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APPROPRIATIONS AS AMENDED. UM IS
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THERE A MOTION ON THIS MEASURE,
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SENATOR SKINNER MADE A MOTION
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COUNSEL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
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16 37. EVERY 16 37 BRADFORD
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BRADFORD. I KNOW BOGUE KAMLAGER
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SKINNER. WHY SKINNER I WIENER.
00:23:34.346 --> 00:23:35.447
BUT LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
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THOSE ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
00:23:37.783 --> 00:23:39.985
BEFORE WE TAKE A SIMILAR LOW.
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CAN WE GET A MOTION ON OUR
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CONSENT? CALENDAR CALENDARS HAVE
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BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR SKINNER
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COUNCIL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
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THE CONCERNED CALENDAR. CONSENT
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CALENDAR. BRADFORD BRADFORD I
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ECHO BOGUE KAMLAGER SKINNER. WHY
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SKINNER I WIENER. YEAH WE'LL
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LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR THE
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ABSENT MEMBERS. NEXT UP IS FALL
00:24:02.007 --> 00:24:05.477
ITEM THREE A B 6646 BY A SIMILAR
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MENLO. HE'S PREPARED YOU MAY
00:24:07.045 --> 00:24:10.282
BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
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YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIR AND
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COLLEAGUES THE BILL BEFORE YOU
00:24:13.285 --> 00:24:15.220
IS AN EXPUNGEMENT BILL OF
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CONVICTIONS WITHIN THE
00:24:16.121 --> 00:24:18.123
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS.
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THIS HAS RECEIVED BIPARTISAN
00:24:19.624 --> 00:24:20.692
SUPPORT AND CONTINUES WITH THE
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.360
ESSENCE OF THE STATE OF
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CALIFORNIA. HAPPENING TO CORRECT
00:24:24.863 --> 00:24:26.965
OUR SYSTEM ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO
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BE SET UP FOR SUCCESS WITH ME
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TODAY AND SUPPORT IS OUR FORMER
00:24:30.202 --> 00:24:31.603
FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL
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LOCKYER, AND RESPECTFULLY ASKED
00:24:32.404 --> 00:24:34.206
FOR I VOTE. I BELIEVE HE'S ON
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THE PHONE LINES. OKAY UH, I AM
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YOUR PRIMARY WITNESS, ATTORNEY
00:24:39.477 --> 00:24:43.315
GENERAL ON THE LINE. CORRECT
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ALRIGHT. YOU MAY BEGIN. YOU HAVE
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TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU, SENATOR
00:24:49.154 --> 00:24:50.956
. THIS IS A FORMER SENATOR BILL
00:24:51.022 --> 00:24:53.325
LOCKYER. AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE
00:24:53.391 --> 00:24:54.693
PERHAPS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS
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WORKS AND CURRENT LAW FORMER
00:24:56.361 --> 00:24:58.897
CLIENT WAS A C P A. CONVICTED OF
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STATUTORY RAPE. SERVED SOME JAIL
00:25:03.368 --> 00:25:07.172
TIME. UH SUBSEQUENTLY COURT
00:25:07.239 --> 00:25:09.808
VACATED THE JUDGMENT SO THAT
00:25:09.875 --> 00:25:11.042
CONVICTION IS NO LONGER PUBLIC
00:25:11.109 --> 00:25:13.912
OR ON HIS RECORD. HOWEVER IT'S
00:25:13.979 --> 00:25:17.415
STILL CARRIED ON THE WEBSITE OF
00:25:17.482 --> 00:25:19.217
THE ACCOUNTANCY BOARD. HE HAS
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SURRENDERED. HIS LICENSE HAS NO
00:25:20.886 --> 00:25:22.420
INTEREST IN BEING AN ACCOUNT. OF
00:25:22.487 --> 00:25:25.857
COURSE, THE CRIME HAD NOTHING TO
00:25:25.924 --> 00:25:28.860
DO WITH THE PRACTICE OF BEING A
00:25:28.927 --> 00:25:30.695
C P A. BUT ANYHOW, HIS
00:25:30.762 --> 00:25:33.331
COMPETITIVE NOW RUNS A CEO OF A
00:25:33.398 --> 00:25:34.833
SOLAR COMPANY. UM, AND HIS
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COMPETITORS. POINT TO THE
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WEBSITE OF THE ACCOUNTANCY BOARD
00:25:41.973 --> 00:25:43.141
THAT SHOWS ALL THE DOCUMENTS
00:25:43.208 --> 00:25:45.810
WITH RESPECT TO THIS CONVICTION
00:25:45.877 --> 00:25:47.078
ALONG AGO THAT'S BEEN EXPUNGED
00:25:47.145 --> 00:25:50.715
BY A COURT. BUT NOT EXPUNGED BY
00:25:50.782 --> 00:25:53.351
THE BY THE ACCOUNT SEABOARD. I
00:25:53.418 --> 00:25:55.353
ASKED THEM TO SEE IF THEY COULD
00:25:55.420 --> 00:25:56.755
CLEAN UP THEIR WEBSITE. THEY
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SAID. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE
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AUTHORITY. THIS BILL NOT ONLY
00:26:01.126 --> 00:26:02.360
PROVIDES AUTHORITY THAT DIRECTS
00:26:02.427 --> 00:26:03.962
THEM TO DO THAT, AND I HOPE
00:26:04.029 --> 00:26:06.231
YOU'LL PASS IT ALONG IN THE
00:26:06.298 --> 00:26:06.698
SPIRIT OF APPROPRIATE
00:26:06.765 --> 00:26:07.599
REHABILITATION POLICY IN OUR
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STATE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT I'M
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.809
BRINGING IT BACK TO THE ROOM. 1
00:26:17.876 --> 00:26:19.144
12. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO
00:26:19.210 --> 00:26:21.379
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF A B
00:26:21.446 --> 00:26:28.186
647646? GINA. MODERATOR LET'S GO
00:26:28.253 --> 00:26:29.487
TO OUR PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
00:26:29.554 --> 00:26:42.167
IN SUPPORT OF A B 646.
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MODERATOR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
00:26:48.907 --> 00:26:50.875
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
00:26:50.942 --> 00:26:52.711
SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
00:26:52.777 --> 00:26:55.313
TIME. JUST ONE MOMENT FOR OUR
00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:57.482
FIRST WE DO HAVE WINE 88. YOUR
00:26:57.549 --> 00:27:01.586
LINE IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING,
00:27:01.653 --> 00:27:03.388
LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON FOR THE
00:27:03.455 --> 00:27:04.522
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
00:27:04.589 --> 00:27:05.690
ASSOCIATION. IN SUPPORT. THANK
00:27:05.757 --> 00:27:13.398
YOU. THANK YOU TO WITNESS.
00:27:13.465 --> 00:27:18.303
MOMENT. NEXT WITNESS IS LYING.
00:27:18.370 --> 00:27:23.274
17, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
00:27:23.341 --> 00:27:24.376
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. MY
00:27:24.442 --> 00:27:25.910
CHANNEL SKI FOR THE CONTRACTORS
00:27:25.977 --> 00:27:27.379
, STATE LICENSE BOARD AND
00:27:27.445 --> 00:27:28.580
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
00:27:28.646 --> 00:27:32.684
NEXT WITNESS. OUR NEXT WITNESS
00:27:32.751 --> 00:27:36.321
IS GOING TO BE FROM LINE 56,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. I? THIS IS BEST
00:27:41.126 --> 00:27:42.327
NOT NOW CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
00:27:42.394 --> 00:27:49.067
THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS LINE 69
00:27:49.134 --> 00:27:52.203
. PLEASE GO AHEAD PERSONAL
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KYOTO'S ON BEHALF OF THE FOR THE
00:27:53.838 --> 00:27:54.773
CENTER OF THE EMPLOYMENT
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:55.774
OPPORTUNITIES IN SUPPORT. THANK
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YOU. CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOBODY
00:27:59.310 --> 00:28:03.915
ELSE IN QUÊ. OKAY? NOW WILL
00:28:03.982 --> 00:28:06.217
AFFORD WITNESSES AND OPPOSITE UP
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. OPPOSITION IS SAYING
00:28:07.685 --> 00:28:08.920
OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE NO PRIMARY
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WITNESS AND OPPOSITION LISTED.
00:28:10.855 --> 00:28:12.123
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN ROOM 1
00:28:12.190 --> 00:28:13.792
12 WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
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OPPOSITION OF A B? 646. SHE KNOW
00:28:18.730 --> 00:28:19.964
, WANNA MODERATOR? LET'S GO TO
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OUR PHONE LINES. IF YOU WOULD
00:28:24.903 --> 00:28:26.071
LIKE TO SPEAK AN OPPOSITION.
00:28:26.137 --> 00:28:28.206
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
00:28:28.273 --> 00:28:37.082
MHM. CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOBODY IN
00:28:37.148 --> 00:28:39.250
OPPOSITION. MR CHAIR, OKAY,
00:28:39.317 --> 00:28:40.819
WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO
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THE COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY
00:28:42.754 --> 00:28:43.788
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
00:28:43.855 --> 00:28:44.622
RELATES TO THIS ITEM? JOIN ME.
00:28:44.689 --> 00:28:46.491
OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
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SKINNER. SOME OF THEM NOW. WOULD
00:28:49.861 --> 00:28:51.096
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE FOR OUR BOAT?
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OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A DO
00:28:54.999 --> 00:28:56.067
PASS THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS
00:28:56.134 --> 00:28:57.235
COUNCIL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
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A B 646. FURRED REDFORD,
00:29:02.807 --> 00:29:06.644
IACOBUCCI CON LAGER SKINNER ER,
00:29:06.711 --> 00:29:09.247
I WIENER THAT MEASURES TWO VOTES
00:29:09.314 --> 00:29:11.182
WILL LEAVE THE WORLD OPEN FOR
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ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
00:29:37.142 --> 00:29:47.318
RIGHT? NO. OKAY, WHICH. ALL
00:29:47.385 --> 00:29:52.557
RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM.
00:29:52.624 --> 00:29:54.092
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IS THIS A B? 9
00:29:54.159 --> 00:29:58.496
31% OKAY, SO OUR NEXT TIME IS A
00:29:58.563 --> 00:30:01.466
B 9 31. PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
00:30:01.533 --> 00:30:04.736
YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. I
00:30:04.802 --> 00:30:07.405
INTRODUCED A B 9 31 AND ALICIA
00:30:07.472 --> 00:30:11.576
LA LA GRANADA IN MY DISTRICT WHO
00:30:11.643 --> 00:30:12.844
WAS TAKEN FROM US ON APRIL 30
00:30:12.911 --> 00:30:15.680
18. OF THIS YEAR BY SOMEONE WHO
00:30:15.747 --> 00:30:17.949
SHOULD LIKELY HAVE BEEN IN
00:30:18.016 --> 00:30:19.851
CUSTODY OR UNDER SUPERVISION FOR
00:30:19.918 --> 00:30:22.320
PREVIOUS CRIMES COMMITTED OVER
00:30:22.387 --> 00:30:23.755
THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES,
00:30:23.821 --> 00:30:26.224
LEGISLATION HAS BEEN ENACTED
00:30:26.291 --> 00:30:27.559
THAT TELLS COURTS HOW TO APPLY
00:30:27.625 --> 00:30:28.226
SENTENCING. ENHANCED
00:30:28.293 --> 00:30:30.995
ENHANCEMENTS. ONE RECENT EXAMPLE
00:30:31.062 --> 00:30:35.567
WAS AS. ONE RECENT EXAMPLE WAS
00:30:35.633 --> 00:30:38.436
SB 81 BY SENATOR SKINNER,
00:30:38.503 --> 00:30:42.106
CHAPTER 7 21 OF 2021 WITH THE
00:30:42.173 --> 00:30:46.644
INTENT OF PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO
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COURTS BY SPECIFYING
00:30:49.614 --> 00:30:51.783
CIRCUMSTANCES FOR A COURT TO
00:30:51.849 --> 00:30:54.919
CONSIDER WHEN DETERMINING ABOUT
00:30:54.986 --> 00:30:56.020
WHETHER TO APPLY AND
00:30:56.087 --> 00:30:59.357
ENHANCEMENT, ALTHOUGH CURRENT
00:30:59.424 --> 00:31:02.360
LAW GENERALLY AUTHORIZES A COURT
00:31:02.427 --> 00:31:04.495
TO DISMISS AN ACTION OR TO
00:31:04.562 --> 00:31:06.965
STRIKE OR DISMISS AND
00:31:07.031 --> 00:31:09.901
ENHANCEMENTS IN THE IN FURTHER
00:31:09.968 --> 00:31:12.270
ANSWER OF A JUSTICE. SB 81 GOES
00:31:12.337 --> 00:31:16.074
FURTHER. BEEN INITIALLY INTENDED
00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:18.209
BY PROHIBITING A JUDGE FROM
00:31:18.276 --> 00:31:20.178
STRIKING CERTAIN ENHANCEMENTS
00:31:20.245 --> 00:31:23.381
AND THE STRIPPING AWAY OF ANY
00:31:23.448 --> 00:31:27.318
JUDICIAL DIRECT DISCRETION.
00:31:27.385 --> 00:31:28.853
SIMPLY BUT WHICH IS REALLY
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:30.388
IMPORTANT. JUDGES NEED
00:31:30.455 --> 00:31:32.423
DISCRETION ON HOW TO APPLY
00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:35.526
ENHANCEMENTS AS NEEDED AS SB 81
00:31:35.593 --> 00:31:36.828
LANGUAGES REMOVES THE ABILITY OF
00:31:36.894 --> 00:31:40.164
JUDGES. TO RETAIN DISCRETION IN
00:31:40.231 --> 00:31:44.302
SENTENCING. 31 WOULD HAVE MEND
00:31:44.369 --> 00:31:48.172
PINOT CODE 13 85 TO ENSURE THAT
00:31:48.239 --> 00:31:52.644
THE TRUE INTENT OF SB 81 STEP.
00:31:52.710 --> 00:31:55.713
STATUTES GIVE CLEAR AND CONCISE
00:31:55.780 --> 00:31:57.815
GUIDANCE TO PROSECUTORS, DEFENSE
00:31:57.882 --> 00:32:05.757
ATTORNEYS AND JUDGES. THE SMALL. CHANGE TO LAW WOULD ENSURE THE
00:32:05.823 --> 00:32:09.560
TRUE INTENT OF SB 81, WHICH IS
00:32:09.627 --> 00:32:10.762
TO ENSURE JUDICIAL DIRECTION,
00:32:10.828 --> 00:32:14.932
DISCRETION. IS TRULY PRESERVED
00:32:14.999 --> 00:32:16.534
AND WILL ALSO MAKE SURE THAT
00:32:16.601 --> 00:32:19.470
INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE IN DANGER
00:32:19.537 --> 00:32:21.706
TO THEMSELVES AND TO OTHERS DO
00:32:21.773 --> 00:32:23.975
NOT GET YEARS OFF THEIR
00:32:24.042 --> 00:32:24.676
SENTENCES SENTENCE. ON A
00:32:24.742 --> 00:32:27.845
TECHNICALITY. WITH ME TODAY. ON
00:32:27.912 --> 00:32:31.849
THE PHONE IS MICHELLE. KHAN TOYS
00:32:31.916 --> 00:32:34.452
SENIOR DEPUTY DIRECTOR TERNI
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.888
WITH THE VENTURA COUNTY DISTRICT
00:32:36.954 --> 00:32:37.989
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TESTIFY AND
00:32:38.056 --> 00:32:38.856
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE
00:32:38.923 --> 00:32:43.861
COMMITTEE MAY HAVE. MODERATOR
00:32:43.928 --> 00:32:54.839
ALLOWED THE WITNESS. MM HMM. THE
00:32:54.906 --> 00:32:56.407
LINE SHOULD BE OPEN. IF YOUR
00:32:56.474 --> 00:32:58.409
LINE IS NOT OPEN, YOU CAN PRESS
00:32:58.476 --> 00:33:02.313
10. GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR
00:33:02.380 --> 00:33:07.218
ME? PROCEED? YES. THANK YOU. MY
00:33:07.285 --> 00:33:09.887
NAME IS MICHELLE CONTROI. I AM A
00:33:09.954 --> 00:33:12.056
SENIOR DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
00:33:12.123 --> 00:33:12.623
FOR THE COUNTY OF VENTURA,
00:33:12.690 --> 00:33:14.125
TESTIFYING TODAY IN SUPPORT OF A
00:33:14.192 --> 00:33:16.928
B 9 31 ON BEHALF OF THE
00:33:16.994 --> 00:33:18.096
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
00:33:18.162 --> 00:33:20.098
ASSOCIATION AND ON BEHALF OF MY
00:33:20.164 --> 00:33:21.666
BOSS, VENTURA COUNTY DISTRICT
00:33:21.733 --> 00:33:25.436
ATTORNEY ERIC NESTERENKO. I WANT
00:33:25.503 --> 00:33:26.304
TO START BY EXTENDING MY
00:33:26.371 --> 00:33:28.439
GRATITUDE TO THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
00:33:28.506 --> 00:33:29.407
FOR CARRYING THIS BILL AND TO
00:33:29.474 --> 00:33:31.709
THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THIS
00:33:31.776 --> 00:33:33.044
COMMITTEE FOR HEARING THE BILL
00:33:33.111 --> 00:33:35.012
AND ALLOWING ME TO TEST BY TODAY
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:36.414
, UM, AND ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY
00:33:36.481 --> 00:33:37.482
BY TELEPHONE. THANK YOU VERY
00:33:37.548 --> 00:33:42.353
MUCH. SENATE BILL 81, WITH
00:33:42.420 --> 00:33:44.455
SENATOR SKINNER'S GUIDANCE SET
00:33:44.522 --> 00:33:46.157
OUT TO CREATE A SET OF GUIDED
00:33:46.224 --> 00:33:49.594
DISCRETION FOR COURTS. WHEN
00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:50.428
THEY'RE CONSIDERING WHETHER OR
00:33:50.495 --> 00:33:52.296
NOT, UH TO IMPOSE OR STRIKE AND
00:33:52.363 --> 00:33:55.700
ENHANCEMENT. THE BILL WAS
00:33:55.767 --> 00:33:58.236
INTENDED AND EVEN IN THE
00:33:58.302 --> 00:33:59.604
MATERIALS PREPARED FOR TODAY'S
00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:01.906
HEARING THOSE MATERIALS CONCLUDE
00:34:01.973 --> 00:34:04.742
THAT THE BILL, IN FACT GAVE
00:34:04.809 --> 00:34:05.676
JUDGES DISCRETION TO DETERMINE
00:34:05.743 --> 00:34:09.647
WHEN IMPOSITION. OF AN
00:34:09.714 --> 00:34:10.915
ENHANCEMENT WAS OR WAS NOT IN
00:34:10.982 --> 00:34:14.318
FURTHER AND SERVE JUSTICE. THE
00:34:14.385 --> 00:34:15.920
BILL REQUIRES THAT IF IT IS IN
00:34:15.987 --> 00:34:18.289
THE FURTHER INTO JUSTICE TO
00:34:18.356 --> 00:34:20.057
STRIKE, THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE
00:34:20.124 --> 00:34:21.058
ENHANCEMENT WILL BE STRICKEN OR
00:34:21.125 --> 00:34:24.395
DISMISSED. BUT DISCRETION WAS
00:34:24.462 --> 00:34:26.097
SUPPOSED TO REMAIN OPEN WHEN
00:34:26.164 --> 00:34:28.266
JUDGES FOUND THAT JUSTICE WAS
00:34:28.332 --> 00:34:29.400
FURTHERED BY IMPOSING AND
00:34:29.467 --> 00:34:33.070
ENHANCEMENT THE ISSUE WE HAVE
00:34:33.137 --> 00:34:36.207
TODAY IS WITH TWO OF THE
00:34:36.274 --> 00:34:38.910
MITIGATING FACTORS. MITIGATING
00:34:38.976 --> 00:34:40.011
FACTORS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN
00:34:40.077 --> 00:34:45.983
EAST THREE. B AND C UM AND THOSE
00:34:46.050 --> 00:34:47.652
ARE THE MITIGATING FACTORS FROM
00:34:47.718 --> 00:34:49.720
MULTIPLE ENHANCEMENTS AND THE
00:34:49.787 --> 00:34:50.788
MITIGATING FACTOR WHEN THE
00:34:50.855 --> 00:34:51.956
ENHANCEMENT INCREASES SENTENCED
00:34:52.023 --> 00:34:55.259
TO 20 YEARS. WITH THOSE TWO
00:34:55.326 --> 00:34:56.194
ENHANCEMENTS. THE LANGUAGE
00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:57.829
REQUIRES THAT IF THERE'S
00:34:57.895 --> 00:34:58.963
MULTIPLE ENHANCEMENTS, FOR
00:34:59.030 --> 00:34:59.964
EXAMPLE, THE ENHANCEMENTS SHALL
00:35:00.031 --> 00:35:04.836
BE STRICKEN. UM. I UNDERSTAND
00:35:04.902 --> 00:35:07.271
THAT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A
00:35:07.338 --> 00:35:09.106
MANDATORY, UM, STRIKING LANGUAGE
00:35:09.173 --> 00:35:12.710
THAT IF THE JUDGE DETERMINES
00:35:12.777 --> 00:35:14.245
THAT STRIKING THAT ENHANCEMENT
00:35:14.312 --> 00:35:15.713
DOES NOT FURTHER JUSTICE. THE
00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:19.350
JUDGE SHOULD RETAIN DISCRETION
00:35:19.417 --> 00:35:21.853
TO IMPOSE THAT ENHANCEMENT. BUT
00:35:21.919 --> 00:35:22.820
THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN WITH THE
00:35:22.887 --> 00:35:25.556
WORD SHALL WE HAVE DEFENSE AND
00:35:25.623 --> 00:35:26.524
JUDGES INTERPRETING IT AS
00:35:26.591 --> 00:35:29.327
MANDATORY? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
00:35:29.393 --> 00:35:31.062
ACCOMPLISH WITH 9 31 IS SIMPLY
00:35:31.128 --> 00:35:37.435
TO MAKE, UH 13 85 SEYARTO. TRY
00:35:37.502 --> 00:35:47.378
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION. OKAY? UM. SO THAT'S YOUR MAIN WITNESS IN
00:35:47.445 --> 00:35:49.013
SUPPORT, SO I CAN NOW JUST GO TO
00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:51.883
OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE
00:35:51.949 --> 00:35:53.618
ROOM WHO WANTS TO TESTIFY IN
00:35:53.684 --> 00:35:57.388
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL? ALRIGHT,
00:35:57.455 --> 00:35:59.390
LET'S OPEN THE PHONE LINES,
00:35:59.457 --> 00:36:00.057
MODERATOR, ANY OF THOSE WHO WANT
00:36:00.124 --> 00:36:01.926
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF A B
00:36:01.993 --> 00:36:03.127
931. THIS IS NAME AND
00:36:03.194 --> 00:36:07.832
AFFILIATION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE
00:36:07.899 --> 00:36:09.100
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
00:36:09.166 --> 00:36:10.268
PRESS ONE BEEN ZERO AT THIS
00:36:10.334 --> 00:36:21.746
TIME. ONCE AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE
00:36:21.812 --> 00:36:23.414
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
00:36:23.481 --> 00:36:29.554
PRESS ONE DÂN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
00:36:29.620 --> 00:36:30.988
BUT WE DO HAVE LINE 93. PLEASE
00:36:31.055 --> 00:36:34.625
GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING CARE AND
00:36:34.692 --> 00:36:37.061
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I AM ELAINE,
00:36:37.128 --> 00:36:38.663
CALLING ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO
00:36:38.729 --> 00:36:40.631
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUMMER
00:36:40.698 --> 00:36:42.433
, STEFAN AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT
00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:49.273
OF 89 31. THANK YOU. AT THIS
00:36:49.340 --> 00:36:51.375
TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE QUEUED
00:36:51.442 --> 00:36:53.177
UP. MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. LET ME
00:36:53.244 --> 00:36:55.212
SEE IF, UH DO WE HAVE A MAIN
00:36:55.279 --> 00:37:00.351
WITNESS IN OPPOSITION? YES, I
00:37:00.418 --> 00:37:04.589
HAVE. WELL, LET ME LOOK BACK. AH
00:37:04.655 --> 00:37:06.123
YES. GLENN BECK IS FROM THE L. A
00:37:06.190 --> 00:37:08.926
BAKER CENTER AND MONO RAJU. SO
00:37:08.993 --> 00:37:10.161
FROM THE SF PUBLIC DEPENDENT OR
00:37:10.227 --> 00:37:12.730
GO AHEAD, GLENN GOOD MORNING.
00:37:12.797 --> 00:37:14.665
GLENN BACK IS FOR THE YELLOW
00:37:14.732 --> 00:37:16.200
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS.
00:37:16.267 --> 00:37:17.501
THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS TO
00:37:17.568 --> 00:37:18.636
INCREASE THE APPLICATION OF
00:37:18.703 --> 00:37:19.136
ENHANCEMENTS. HOWEVER,
00:37:19.203 --> 00:37:22.840
ENHANCEMENTS DON'T WORK. THEY
00:37:22.907 --> 00:37:24.041
DON'T WORK TO REDUCE CRIME. THEY
00:37:24.108 --> 00:37:26.210
DON'T WORK TO PREVENT CRIME.
00:37:26.277 --> 00:37:27.511
THAT WAS THE CONCLUSION OF THE
00:37:27.578 --> 00:37:29.780
NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES.
00:37:29.847 --> 00:37:30.615
WHEN IN 2014, THEY PUBLISHED A
00:37:30.681 --> 00:37:34.685
444 PAGE REPORT. BASED ON A
00:37:34.752 --> 00:37:35.987
YEAR'S WORK BY 20 LEADING
00:37:36.053 --> 00:37:37.822
SCHOLARS WHO REVIEWED ALL THE
00:37:37.888 --> 00:37:39.023
EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTS OF MASS
00:37:39.090 --> 00:37:39.924
INCARCERATION. THE EFFECTS OF
00:37:39.991 --> 00:37:42.293
INCREASED SENTENCES. THE
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:43.394
CONCLUSIONS OF THAT STUDY WAS
00:37:43.461 --> 00:37:47.131
THAT ENHANCEMENTS DON'T WORK
00:37:47.198 --> 00:37:48.733
LONG SENTENCES DON'T WORK. THEY
00:37:48.799 --> 00:37:50.434
ARE, HOWEVER, INJURIOUS TO
00:37:50.501 --> 00:37:54.038
FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES BECAUSE
00:37:54.105 --> 00:37:55.473
THESE LONG SENTENCES ARE OVER,
00:37:55.539 --> 00:37:56.574
CONCENTRATED IN LOW INCOME
00:37:56.641 --> 00:37:58.843
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. THAT
00:37:58.909 --> 00:38:00.878
INJURY IS TOO BLACK, LATIN X
00:38:00.945 --> 00:38:01.946
INDIGENOUS AND LOW INCOME
00:38:02.013 --> 00:38:03.447
FAMILIES. AND COMMUNITIES
00:38:03.514 --> 00:38:04.815
BECAUSE IT'S CONCENTRATED IN
00:38:04.882 --> 00:38:07.451
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES. THAT LEADS
00:38:07.518 --> 00:38:08.352
TO THE INTERGENERATIONAL
00:38:08.419 --> 00:38:09.654
TRANSFER OF POVERTY AND
00:38:09.720 --> 00:38:10.755
DECREASES IN SAFETY, NOT
00:38:10.821 --> 00:38:14.825
INCREASES. A 2015 STUDY BY THE
00:38:14.892 --> 00:38:17.228
YELLOW BAKER CENTER AND OTHERS.
00:38:17.294 --> 00:38:19.830
ECHOED THOSE FINDINGS FINDS THAT
00:38:19.897 --> 00:38:20.431
THE HIGH COST OF LONG
00:38:20.498 --> 00:38:21.832
INCARCERATION THOSE LONGCOSTS
00:38:21.899 --> 00:38:24.001
OF CALLS COST OF TRAVEL COSTS OF
00:38:24.068 --> 00:38:26.537
CARE PACKAGES COMMISSARY AND
00:38:26.604 --> 00:38:28.005
LOSS OF WAGES IS OVERWHELMINGLY
00:38:28.072 --> 00:38:31.208
BORN. BY WOMEN LED FAMILIES.
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BLACK, LATIN X LOW INCOME. WOMEN
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OF COLOR. ENHANCEMENTS DO NOT
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INCREASE THE PEACE. THEY DO NOT
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MAKE US SAFER. THEY ROBBED
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FAMILIES OF INCOME AND LOVED
00:38:43.721 --> 00:38:44.922
ONES. THEY HURT COMMUNITIES AND
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MAKE US LESS SAFE. LONG VICTIM.
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LONG SENTENCES DON'T MAKE
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VICTIMS OR THEIR FAMILIES WHOLE.
00:38:53.064 --> 00:38:54.065
ELLA BAKER CENTER, SUPPORTS THE
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BUDGET WORK. TO INCREASE
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SERVICES TO VICTIMS. WE STRONGLY
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SUPPORTED THAT. WE STRONGLY
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OPPOSE A B 91. THANK YOU. THANK
00:39:04.275 --> 00:39:06.610
YOU. DO WE HAVE MANU FROM SF
00:39:06.677 --> 00:39:10.881
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE? YES,
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YES, I'M HERE. GREAT ON THE
00:39:12.316 --> 00:39:13.317
PHONE LINE. OKAY, PLEASE
00:39:13.384 --> 00:39:16.954
PROCEED. GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE
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MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WYNONA JEWS,
00:39:19.023 --> 00:39:20.124
AND I'M THE ELECTED PUBLIC
00:39:20.191 --> 00:39:22.359
DEFENDER OF SAN FRANCISCO. THE
00:39:22.426 --> 00:39:23.761
LIBERAL USE OF SENTENCING
00:39:23.828 --> 00:39:26.197
ENHANCEMENT HAS RESULTED IN THE
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MASS INCARCERATION OF BLACK
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LATIN X. YEAH I AND L G B T Q
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COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA.
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SB 81 OFFERED BY SENATOR SKINNER
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TOOK AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD
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AND DISMANTLING CALIFORNIA'S
00:39:40.578 --> 00:39:41.746
HARMFUL LEGACY OF IMPOSING
00:39:41.812 --> 00:39:45.249
EXCESSIVELY PUNITIVE SENTENCES.
00:39:45.316 --> 00:39:47.852
SB 81. THE CURRENT LAW REQUIRES
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COURSES JUST MINUTES HAS BEEN IF
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IN THE COURT'S DISCRETION IT IS
00:39:52.623 --> 00:39:54.158
IN THE FURTHERANCE OF JUSTICE,
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AND THAT'S NOT ENDANGER PUBLIC
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SAFETY TO DO SO. AFTER ALL,
00:39:58.395 --> 00:39:59.697
FURTHERING JUSTICE SHOULD BE THE
00:39:59.764 --> 00:40:01.398
GOAL OF OUR COURT SYSTEM.
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ALRIGHT ELIMINATING SHELLS IN
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THESE SECTIONS. THE PINNACLES 13
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85 89 31 RENDERS AS THE 81
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MEANINGLESS. THIS IS BECAUSE
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PRIOR TO SB 81. JUDGES ALREADY
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HAD DISCRETION TO STRIKE AND
00:40:16.180 --> 00:40:17.381
HENCE IS IN THE FURTHERANCE OF
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JUSTICE. IF YOU KNOW CODE 13 85.
00:40:21.318 --> 00:40:23.354
A AND B BUT WITH LITTLE
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STATUTORY GARDEN DESPITE THIS
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JUDICIAL AUTHORITY, NEARLY 80%
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OF PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA PRISONS
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HAVE AT LEAST ONE ENHANCEMENT.
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MOREOVER HUGE RACIAL DISPARITIES
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AND ENHANCEMENTS HAVE PERSISTED
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, FOR EXAMPLE, AS OF AUGUST,
00:40:37.968 --> 00:40:40.104
2000 AND 19 MORE THAN 90% OF
00:40:40.171 --> 00:40:42.239
ADULTS WITH THE GANG ENHANCEMENT
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IN STATE PRISON ALREADY THEY'RE
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.409
BLACK OR LATINO. IN ADDITION TO
00:40:45.476 --> 00:40:46.877
SHAMEFUL RACIAL DISPARITIES,
00:40:46.944 --> 00:40:47.812
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
00:40:47.878 --> 00:40:49.246
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS IN
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CALIFORNIA ARE SERVING SENTENCES
00:40:50.915 --> 00:40:53.117
WHERE THE PERIOD IMPOSED FOR HIM
00:40:53.184 --> 00:40:54.351
IS GREATER THAN THE TIME IMPOSED
00:40:54.418 --> 00:40:55.319
FOR THEIR UNDERLYING
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CONVICTIONS. EXCESSIVE
00:40:57.454 --> 00:40:58.989
ENHANCEMENTS DON'T SERVE PUBLIC
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STAGING A CAGE COMMUNITY MEMBERS
00:41:01.058 --> 00:41:02.827
FOR DECADES AT A TIME INTIMIDATE
00:41:02.893 --> 00:41:05.029
ACCUSED PEOPLE INTO PLEADING TO
00:41:05.095 --> 00:41:06.230
CHARGES THEY ARE NOT GUILTY OF
00:41:06.297 --> 00:41:09.133
FOR FEAR OF EXCESSIVE SENTENCES.
00:41:09.200 --> 00:41:10.734
AND HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO
00:41:10.801 --> 00:41:11.735
PUNISHMENT SYSTEM THAT IS
00:41:11.802 --> 00:41:13.637
PHYSICALLY AND MORALLY
00:41:13.704 --> 00:41:16.006
UNSUSTAINABLE. WE ALREADY KNOW
00:41:16.073 --> 00:41:17.474
THAT WITHOUT CLEAR LANGUAGE THAT
00:41:17.541 --> 00:41:19.176
REQUIRES DISMISSAL OF HIM AND
00:41:19.243 --> 00:41:20.344
ENHANCEMENT IF IT ISN'T THE
00:41:20.411 --> 00:41:22.847
FURTHERANCE OBJECTIVE. IT WOULD
00:41:22.913 --> 00:41:24.415
NOT ENDANGER PUBLIC SAFETY. WE
00:41:24.481 --> 00:41:29.486
pPUNITIVE SENTENCES PREDOMINANTLY
00:41:29.553 --> 00:41:31.388
FOR OUR BLACK LATIN. NEXT ÁP I
00:41:31.455 --> 00:41:34.358
AND L G B T Q COLLEGE. THANK YOU
00:41:34.425 --> 00:41:35.960
FOR HEARING MY TESTIMONY. I
00:41:36.026 --> 00:41:37.895
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO
00:41:37.962 --> 00:41:42.333
ON 89 31. THANK YOU, MODERATOR
00:41:42.399 --> 00:41:44.034
OR EXCUSE ME. LET ME SEE IF
00:41:44.101 --> 00:41:45.936
THERE'S ANYONE IN THE ROOM WHO
00:41:46.003 --> 00:41:47.705
IS TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION
00:41:47.771 --> 00:41:49.073
COULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND ITS
00:41:49.139 --> 00:41:50.908
NAME AND AFFILIATION. MELISSA
00:41:50.975 --> 00:41:52.109
COZ HERE WITH CALIFORNIA'S FOR
00:41:52.176 --> 00:41:53.110
SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND
00:41:53.177 --> 00:41:56.413
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GOOD
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:57.481
MORNING, GREGORY FIDEL WILL
00:41:57.548 --> 00:41:58.382
INITIATE JUSTICE, STRONG
00:41:58.449 --> 00:41:59.650
OPPOSITION. NYONE ELSE IN THE
00:41:59.717 --> 00:42:03.487
ROOM? ALRIGHT SEEING NONE.
00:42:03.554 --> 00:42:04.955
MODERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE QUEUE
00:42:05.022 --> 00:42:06.523
UP ANY ON THE PHONE LINE WHO
00:42:06.590 --> 00:42:08.058
WANT TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITIONTO
00:42:08.125 --> 00:42:14.398
A B 9 31? IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
00:42:14.465 --> 00:42:14.965
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
00:42:15.032 --> 00:42:16.133
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
00:42:16.200 --> 00:42:22.740
TIME. LINE. 88, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:42:22.806 --> 00:42:24.275
GOOD MORNING. LESLIE CALDWELL,
00:42:24.341 --> 00:42:25.709
HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
00:42:25.776 --> 00:42:27.478
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
00:42:27.544 --> 00:42:32.316
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. NEXT AS
00:42:32.383 --> 00:42:36.854
LINE 95, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
00:42:36.921 --> 00:42:39.356
MORNING. THIS IS JIM LINDBERG ON
00:42:39.423 --> 00:42:40.324
BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE
00:42:40.391 --> 00:42:41.158
ON LEGISLATION IN CALIFORNIA IN
00:42:41.225 --> 00:42:47.731
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. AT THIS
00:42:47.798 --> 00:42:49.466
TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN
00:42:49.533 --> 00:42:51.936
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. I'LL
00:42:52.002 --> 00:42:53.203
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE,
00:42:53.270 --> 00:42:55.706
WHICH FOR THE MOMENT MEANS ME.
00:42:55.773 --> 00:42:56.840
UM, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S YOU DO
00:42:56.907 --> 00:43:00.311
REALIZE YOU ARE YOUR BILL, IN
00:43:00.377 --> 00:43:01.979
EFFECT GUTS THE BILL THAT I
00:43:02.046 --> 00:43:04.248
AUTHORED AND WAS PASSED BY BOTH
00:43:04.315 --> 00:43:05.983
OF OUR HOUSES AND SIGNED INTO
00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:09.453
LAW. NOW THE I REALLY APPRECIATE
00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:11.121
THE COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS BECAUSE
00:43:11.188 --> 00:43:13.190
THE ASSERTIONS THAT BOTH YOU
00:43:13.257 --> 00:43:14.558
MADE IN YOUR STATEMENT AND THAT
00:43:14.625 --> 00:43:19.096
YOUR WITNESS MADE ARE. I WOULD
00:43:19.163 --> 00:43:20.564
SAY, WELL REFUTED BY BOTH THE
00:43:20.631 --> 00:43:22.433
ANALYSIS AND THE JUDICIAL
00:43:22.499 --> 00:43:27.204
COUNCILS OAN. REGULATIONS THAT
00:43:27.271 --> 00:43:29.406
THEY DEVELOPED AS A RESULT OF SB
00:43:29.473 --> 00:43:32.743
81. I CAN READ, FOR EXAMPLE, IN
00:43:32.810 --> 00:43:36.046
THE ANALYSIS AS IT SAYS THAT AND
00:43:36.113 --> 00:43:38.248
THIS IS DUE TO AMENDMENTS THAT I
00:43:38.315 --> 00:43:40.317
MADE. THIS IS THERE REFERENCE TO
00:43:40.384 --> 00:43:42.853
THE AMENDMENTS MADE TO SB 81
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:44.755
SUPPORT THE EXERCISE OF JUDICIAL
00:43:44.822 --> 00:43:47.191
DISCRETION AND PERMIT A COURT TO
00:43:47.257 --> 00:43:48.492
CONSIDER PUBLIC SAFETY WHEN
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:51.295
MAKING ITS DETERMINATION. AND
00:43:51.362 --> 00:43:53.430
THE RULES OF THE COURT AND THE
00:43:53.497 --> 00:43:53.964
RELATED ADVISORY COMMITTEE
00:43:54.031 --> 00:43:56.000
COMMENT. ALLOWS THE COURT TO
00:43:56.066 --> 00:43:58.302
GIVE THE DISCRETION AND REQUIRES
00:43:58.369 --> 00:44:00.037
THE COURT TO CONSIDER THE WEIGHT
00:44:00.104 --> 00:44:01.205
OF BOTH MITIGATING AND
00:44:01.271 --> 00:44:03.907
AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES IN
00:44:03.974 --> 00:44:05.075
THEIR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER
00:44:05.142 --> 00:44:07.978
TO DISMISS THE APPLICABLE
00:44:08.045 --> 00:44:12.016
ENHANCEMENT OR ENHANCEMENTS. SO
00:44:12.082 --> 00:44:15.753
UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND AND
00:44:15.819 --> 00:44:18.622
APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS, UH,
00:44:18.689 --> 00:44:22.493
OPPOSITION TO 81. THERE IS
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:23.794
INTEREST BY CERTAIN PEOPLE TO
00:44:23.861 --> 00:44:28.599
CHANGE THAT. BUT THE PREMISE
00:44:28.665 --> 00:44:29.800
THAT WAS PUT FORWARD I DON'T
00:44:29.867 --> 00:44:34.038
THINK IS ACCURATE. BUT LET ME
00:44:34.104 --> 00:44:37.608
SEE WHERE DISCUSSING A B 9 31. I
00:44:37.674 --> 00:44:39.643
DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO EITHER
00:44:39.710 --> 00:44:40.144
MAKE ANY COMMENT OR BUT
00:44:40.210 --> 00:44:42.980
OTHERWISE I WAS GOING TO ASK.
00:44:43.047 --> 00:44:44.114
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER TO RESPOND
00:44:44.181 --> 00:44:47.651
AND CLOSE. IT WOULD TO. FIRST OF
00:44:47.718 --> 00:44:54.792
ALL, UM. I APPRECIATE THE
00:44:54.858 --> 00:44:55.426
TESTIMONY TODAY. THE WITNESSES
00:44:55.492 --> 00:45:02.533
ALSO. AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:03.200
SAID. I MEAN, I'M FROM STOCKTON,
00:45:03.267 --> 00:45:06.904
CALIFORNIA AND WE'RE WE'RE
00:45:06.970 --> 00:45:09.239
CONSTANTLY HAVING THIS BLACK GUY
00:45:09.306 --> 00:45:10.441
, RIGHT? AND I HEAR ABOUT, YOU
00:45:10.507 --> 00:45:12.943
KNOW PEOPLE OF COLOR. WELL,
00:45:13.010 --> 00:45:16.847
THAT'S MY I MEAN, I'M I'M
00:45:16.914 --> 00:45:18.615
FIGHTING FOR MY DISTRICT. BUT
00:45:18.682 --> 00:45:20.651
I'M ALSO FINDING FOR THE STATE
00:45:20.717 --> 00:45:21.485
OF CALIFORNIA ESPECIALLY RIGHT
00:45:21.552 --> 00:45:23.520
NOW, WHEN YOU SEE MORE AND MORE
00:45:23.587 --> 00:45:27.858
CRIME IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO
00:45:27.925 --> 00:45:30.661
LA LA AT A HIGH SCHOOL. SHOULD
00:45:30.727 --> 00:45:33.997
NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN. SHOULD
00:45:34.064 --> 00:45:36.100
NEVER EVEN HAPPENED TO A EITHER
00:45:36.166 --> 00:45:37.234
A PARENT OR TEACHER OR
00:45:37.301 --> 00:45:41.405
COUNSELOR. BUT WE HAVE SEEMED TO
00:45:41.472 --> 00:45:42.506
DISCUSS CONSTANTLY BE HAVING
00:45:42.573 --> 00:45:47.411
THESE BLACK EYES. YOU KNOW IN MY
00:45:47.478 --> 00:45:49.279
DISTRICT, RIGHT? BUT I AM ALSO
00:45:49.346 --> 00:45:51.482
AROUND TO LISTEN. WHAT'S GOING
00:45:51.548 --> 00:45:53.417
ON IN THE STATE AND I'M ALSO
00:45:53.484 --> 00:45:54.551
BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. ON OUR
00:45:54.618 --> 00:45:56.453
FLOOR WHEN IT COMES TO GUN LAWS.
00:45:56.520 --> 00:46:01.492
AND PROTECTING THAT. BUT I THINK
00:46:01.558 --> 00:46:05.195
WE I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE IN
00:46:05.262 --> 00:46:08.132
THE FACT OF GIVING GUIDANCE TO
00:46:08.198 --> 00:46:11.935
PROSECUTORS AND JUDGES. FOR THEM
00:46:12.002 --> 00:46:13.670
TO MAKE THEIR OWN TO MAKE
00:46:13.737 --> 00:46:15.739
DECISIONS. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
00:46:15.806 --> 00:46:16.907
CAUSE NOT TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE
00:46:16.974 --> 00:46:22.279
AWAY. I AM I AT ALL. BUT AS AS
00:46:22.346 --> 00:46:24.381
AN ELECTED AND AS A LEADER OF MY
00:46:24.448 --> 00:46:27.151
COMMUNITY. UM I GET ASKED THIS
00:46:27.217 --> 00:46:28.252
QUESTION MANY, MANY TIMES OVER
00:46:28.318 --> 00:46:32.122
AND OVER. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHY
00:46:32.189 --> 00:46:33.357
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? WHY DO WE
00:46:33.423 --> 00:46:36.894
ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN? AND AS A
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.396
LEADER, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE
00:46:39.463 --> 00:46:39.963
THAT I'M ANSWERING MY
00:46:40.030 --> 00:46:41.832
CONSTITUENCY THAT I'M RESPONDING
00:46:41.899 --> 00:46:44.635
BACK TO FOLKS THAT THEY REALLY
00:46:44.701 --> 00:46:46.370
WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE. SO I
00:46:46.436 --> 00:46:48.238
HEARD IT STATISTICS. YOU KNOW
00:46:48.305 --> 00:46:49.506
THAT THAT AND ALL THE STUDIES,
00:46:49.573 --> 00:46:51.041
BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO ASK
00:46:51.108 --> 00:46:52.042
OURSELVES. YOU KNOW? IS IT
00:46:52.109 --> 00:46:54.978
WORKING? YOU KNOW? IS THAT
00:46:55.045 --> 00:47:00.284
WORKING BECAUSE MM. HOW I SEE IT
00:47:00.350 --> 00:47:02.986
IN MY DISTRICT. IT ISN'T AND I
00:47:03.053 --> 00:47:04.488
AM I'M GETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE
00:47:04.555 --> 00:47:06.123
LITERALLY YELLING AND THE
00:47:06.190 --> 00:47:07.925
SCREAMING AND ASKING FOR SOME
00:47:07.991 --> 00:47:09.059
CHANGES, AND THAT'S WHY I'M
00:47:09.126 --> 00:47:10.194
HERE. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S
00:47:10.260 --> 00:47:12.396
THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY.
00:47:12.462 --> 00:47:14.898
YOU KNOW? IS THAT WE'RE HOPING
00:47:14.965 --> 00:47:16.633
THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES
00:47:16.700 --> 00:47:18.602
AND REALLY KIND OF TWEAK AND
00:47:18.669 --> 00:47:20.437
GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OUR
00:47:20.504 --> 00:47:22.306
JUDGES WHO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS
00:47:22.372 --> 00:47:24.274
AT THE END OF THE DAY IN DAY
00:47:24.341 --> 00:47:26.009
OUT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
00:47:26.076 --> 00:47:34.218
VOTE. AND. CERTAINLY I THINK
00:47:34.284 --> 00:47:35.652
THERE'S NOT A SINGLE MEMBER OF
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.020
THE LEGISLATURE OR THE PUBLIC
00:47:37.087 --> 00:47:40.157
WHO WANTS TO HAVE CRIME IN THEIR
00:47:40.224 --> 00:47:42.626
COMMUNITIES. BUT I THINK WHAT
00:47:42.693 --> 00:47:44.394
WHILE YOU'RE THE MOTIVE TO
00:47:44.461 --> 00:47:50.701
REDUCE CRIME. IS SHARED. THE
00:47:50.767 --> 00:47:52.402
RESEARCH IN THE DATA THAT
00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:53.637
ENHANCEMENTS REDUCE CRIME IS
00:47:53.704 --> 00:47:58.242
BASICALLY NOT SUPPORTED. AND.
00:47:58.308 --> 00:48:00.510
THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU SITE
00:48:00.577 --> 00:48:02.379
AND THE PARTICULAR CRIME THAT
00:48:02.446 --> 00:48:06.383
YOU DESCRIBED. WOULDN'T WOULD
00:48:06.450 --> 00:48:08.151
NOT NECESSARILY BE AFFECTED
00:48:08.218 --> 00:48:10.287
WHATSOEVER BY THE PRESENCE OR
00:48:10.354 --> 00:48:12.389
LACK OF PRESENCE OF ENHANCEMENTS
00:48:12.456 --> 00:48:13.957
AND THE WEATHER 81 WOULD BE
00:48:14.024 --> 00:48:17.561
APPLIED. IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS
00:48:17.628 --> 00:48:19.096
ALSO NOT CLEAR. BUT WE'LL LEAVE
00:48:19.162 --> 00:48:20.998
THAT ALONE. AND, UH, WE'LL SEE
00:48:21.064 --> 00:48:27.638
IF THE COMMITTEE HAS ANY ACTION.
00:48:27.704 --> 00:48:30.107
RIGHT. SO, UM WE DON'T HAVE
00:48:30.173 --> 00:48:34.878
EMOTION, BUT SO RIGHT NOW,
00:48:34.945 --> 00:48:35.979
THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE
00:48:36.046 --> 00:48:37.147
THINKING ABOUT REMEMBERS. THANK
00:48:37.214 --> 00:48:44.488
YOU. DO WE HAVE WAS 27 30 ON
00:48:44.554 --> 00:48:48.058
CONSENT. OR IS THAT YOU START TO
00:48:48.125 --> 00:48:50.060
PRESENT 27 30? CORRECT. I DO.
00:48:50.127 --> 00:48:52.362
GREAT. OKAY, PLEASE PROCEED.
00:48:52.429 --> 00:48:53.930
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
00:48:53.997 --> 00:48:55.465
FIRST. I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR
00:48:55.532 --> 00:48:57.034
WORKING WITH MY STAFF TO ACCEPT
00:48:57.100 --> 00:48:58.635
THE AUTHORS AS AMENDMENTS
00:48:58.702 --> 00:49:01.738
LIMITED PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY.
00:49:01.805 --> 00:49:04.074
INCARCERATED PERSON WHO WHO HAVE
00:49:04.141 --> 00:49:06.043
A LEVEL OF ONE OR TWO CUSTODY
00:49:06.109 --> 00:49:09.713
LEVEL REQUIRES A C D. C R TO
00:49:09.780 --> 00:49:11.014
INCLUDE THE REGULATIONS THAT THE
00:49:11.081 --> 00:49:15.752
DEPARTMENT WOULD REQUIRED TO, UM
00:49:15.819 --> 00:49:18.422
, SUCH SPECIFY PREVIOUS RELATED
00:49:18.488 --> 00:49:21.291
TO THE ROLE OF VIOLATION SLASH.
00:49:21.358 --> 00:49:22.392
FAILURE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
00:49:22.459 --> 00:49:25.329
PROGRAM, INCLUDING CLARIFYING
00:49:25.395 --> 00:49:27.030
LANGUAGE STATING THAT THE
00:49:27.097 --> 00:49:28.231
SECURITY AND THE CUSTODY OF
00:49:28.298 --> 00:49:31.134
SUPERVISION IN THE COMMUNITY
00:49:31.201 --> 00:49:32.803
CAMPUS SETTINGS WOULD PROVIDE BY
00:49:32.869 --> 00:49:35.972
THE CDR CR CORRECTIONS OFFICER.
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.076
A B 27 30 WILL INCREASE PUBLIC
00:49:39.142 --> 00:49:41.311
SAFETY TO HELP BREAK THE CYCLE,
00:49:41.378 --> 00:49:44.314
CRIME AND POVERTY BY ENSURING
00:49:44.381 --> 00:49:45.849
THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
00:49:45.916 --> 00:49:49.286
SENTENCE ARE DUE TO BE RELEASED.
00:49:49.353 --> 00:49:50.821
FROM THE STATE PRISON, HAVE A
00:49:50.887 --> 00:49:52.889
TOOL AND SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED
00:49:52.956 --> 00:49:54.958
TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE A REAL
00:49:55.025 --> 00:49:56.927
OPPORTUNITY AT REHABILITATION
00:49:56.993 --> 00:49:57.928
AND REDEMPTION OF FINANCIAL
00:49:57.994 --> 00:50:01.465
INDEPENDENCE. WHEN THEY RETURN
00:50:01.531 --> 00:50:04.568
HOME. THE GOAL OF A B 27 30 IS
00:50:04.634 --> 00:50:07.137
SIMPLE, PREVENTING RECIDIVISM
00:50:07.204 --> 00:50:08.372
FROM HAPPENING IN IN THE FIRST
00:50:08.438 --> 00:50:11.742
PLACE. OFTENTIMES WHEN
00:50:11.808 --> 00:50:14.044
INDIVIDUALS ARE RELEASED, THEY
00:50:14.111 --> 00:50:15.645
DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO LOOK
00:50:15.712 --> 00:50:18.181
FORWARD AND DO NOT KNOW HOW TO
00:50:18.248 --> 00:50:19.349
NAVIGATE THE WORLD THAT THEY ARE
00:50:19.416 --> 00:50:22.853
RETURNING TO. THIS LEADS TO MANY
00:50:22.919 --> 00:50:25.489
TO GO BACK IN THERE ALWAYS TO
00:50:25.555 --> 00:50:27.224
REOFFEND, PUTTING THEM RIGHT
00:50:27.290 --> 00:50:29.760
BACK IN PRISON. 27 30 USE IT
00:50:29.826 --> 00:50:33.130
PROVEN METHOD. FOR REDUCING
00:50:33.196 --> 00:50:34.865
RECIDIVISM. DURING MY CAREER, I
00:50:34.931 --> 00:50:37.067
HAVE SEEN HOW INDIVIDUALS ARE
00:50:37.134 --> 00:50:39.302
ABLE TO CHANGE THEIR LIVES IF WE
00:50:39.369 --> 00:50:41.471
TAKE THE TIME TO PROVIDE THE
00:50:41.538 --> 00:50:42.139
TOOLS AND RESOURCES NEEDED TO BE
00:50:42.205 --> 00:50:47.144
SUCCESSFUL. INDIVIDUALS NOT ONLY
00:50:47.210 --> 00:50:48.211
NEED REHABILITATION SERVICES AND
00:50:48.278 --> 00:50:52.115
SKILLS, BUT ONCE AN OUT THERE.
00:50:52.182 --> 00:50:53.350
THEY ALSO NEED A GOOD PAYING
00:50:53.417 --> 00:50:59.156
JOB. I STARTED. I STARTED LIKE A
00:50:59.222 --> 00:51:00.991
PILOT SWAP PROGRAM BEFORE I GOT
00:51:01.057 --> 00:51:05.862
HERE. I HAD I HAD A FRIEND OF
00:51:05.929 --> 00:51:07.931
MINE THAT REACHED OUT TO ME AND
00:51:07.998 --> 00:51:09.299
SAID, HEY, I GOT THIS PERSON'S
00:51:09.366 --> 00:51:11.234
COMING OUT. HE JUST DID 17
00:51:11.301 --> 00:51:12.436
YEARS. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN
00:51:12.502 --> 00:51:14.604
HELP THEM? AND I SAID, YEAH. YOU
00:51:14.671 --> 00:51:15.939
KNOW WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS TALK
00:51:16.006 --> 00:51:18.208
TO HIM BEFORE HE GOT RELEASED
00:51:18.275 --> 00:51:20.444
AND I WAS ON THE PHONE AND I WAS
00:51:20.510 --> 00:51:21.545
TALKING TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. I
00:51:21.611 --> 00:51:23.547
SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST PICKING
00:51:23.613 --> 00:51:24.748
HIS BRAIN LIKE HEY, WHAT DO YOU
00:51:24.815 --> 00:51:26.149
WANT TO DO? YOU STILL DIDN'T
00:51:26.216 --> 00:51:27.284
KNOW? SO I KNEW THAT CANADA
00:51:27.350 --> 00:51:29.219
NEEDED TO KIND OF HOLD HIS HAND
00:51:29.286 --> 00:51:30.887
THROUGH RIGHT AND I WANTED TO. I
00:51:30.954 --> 00:51:32.122
REALLY DID GOT INTO A PROGRAM.
00:51:32.189 --> 00:51:36.393
UM HE SPENT 30 DAYS IN TRAINING
00:51:36.460 --> 00:51:38.562
. UH HE WENT INTO THE TRUCKING
00:51:38.628 --> 00:51:39.629
PROGRAM. WE GOT HIS CLASS A
00:51:39.696 --> 00:51:41.765
LICENSE. UM THAT WAS FOUR YEARS
00:51:41.832 --> 00:51:46.236
AGO. HE NOW OWNS A HOME. HE
00:51:46.303 --> 00:51:47.938
MOVED OUT FROM BEING A TRUCKER
00:51:48.004 --> 00:51:50.440
TO A DISPATCHER IS MAKING OVER
00:51:50.507 --> 00:51:54.344
WAY OVER $100,000 AND. SO THAT
00:51:54.411 --> 00:51:56.880
THE SAME COMPANY THAT I WAS
00:51:56.947 --> 00:51:59.549
WORKING WITH THAT CROSS IS THE
00:51:59.616 --> 00:52:01.051
ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN HELP ME
00:52:01.117 --> 00:52:02.986
WITH MORE SO WE ACTUALLY GOT
00:52:03.053 --> 00:52:03.987
FOUR MORE FOLKS. THEY WERE
00:52:04.054 --> 00:52:04.955
INCARCERATED COMING TO THIS
00:52:05.021 --> 00:52:08.859
PROGRAM. ONCE A PROGRAM IS JUST
00:52:08.925 --> 00:52:13.630
A PILOT PROGRAM. UM OUT OF THE
00:52:13.697 --> 00:52:16.633
FOUR TO OWN HOMES. NOW THE OTHER
00:52:16.700 --> 00:52:19.736
THREE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW,
00:52:19.803 --> 00:52:20.937
MOVING OUT TO BUY THEIR OWN
00:52:21.004 --> 00:52:24.207
HOMES. IT WORKS. YOU KNOW,
00:52:24.274 --> 00:52:25.408
SOMETIMES WE JUST HAD IT. WE GOT
00:52:25.475 --> 00:52:27.544
TO PUT MORE TIME. UM MOST TIMES
00:52:27.611 --> 00:52:29.179
THEY GET OUT THERE, GO SEE THE
00:52:29.246 --> 00:52:30.680
PROBATION OFFICER OR PAROLE
00:52:30.747 --> 00:52:32.949
OFFICER, AND SOMETIMES THEY PUT
00:52:33.016 --> 00:52:34.818
HIM THROUGH THIS LOOP AND TO GO
00:52:34.885 --> 00:52:36.152
THROUGH WORK NET AND IN OTHERS
00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:38.388
EXISTING PROGRAMS OUT THERE NOW.
00:52:38.455 --> 00:52:39.856
BUT I JUST WANT TO DO SOMETHING
00:52:39.923 --> 00:52:41.691
THAT IS LIKE A PILOT PROGRAM
00:52:41.758 --> 00:52:42.959
THAT IS INSIDE AT THE TIME THEY
00:52:43.026 --> 00:52:45.362
GET OUT. THEY'RE ALREADY STATE
00:52:45.428 --> 00:52:47.130
CERTIFIED DAIRY. HAVE THEY
00:52:47.197 --> 00:52:48.431
ALREADY KNOW THEY'VE TALKED TO
00:52:48.498 --> 00:52:50.867
THEIR WORKER AND THIS IS WHAT
00:52:50.934 --> 00:52:52.002
THIS PROGRAM DOES. IT REALLY,
00:52:52.068 --> 00:52:54.037
REALLY HELPS A LOT OF FOLKS. I
00:52:54.104 --> 00:52:57.741
AM AM ALSO AMAZED OF HOW HOW THE
00:52:57.807 --> 00:52:59.709
COUNTRIES LIKE NORWAY HAVE TAKEN
00:52:59.776 --> 00:53:01.478
STEPS TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM, AND
00:53:01.545 --> 00:53:03.046
I BELIEVE WE CAN DO THE SAME
00:53:03.113 --> 00:53:05.015
HERE IN CALIFORNIA, 27 36 TO
00:53:05.081 --> 00:53:08.018
CREATE A CALIFORNIA ANTI
00:53:08.084 --> 00:53:10.420
RECIDIVISM AND PUBLIC SAFETY ACT
00:53:10.487 --> 00:53:12.422
PILOT PROGRAM THAT WILL PROVIDE
00:53:12.489 --> 00:53:14.558
QUALIFIED PARTICIPANTS WITH AN
00:53:14.624 --> 00:53:17.527
OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THEIR LIVES
00:53:17.594 --> 00:53:19.496
AROUND THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL
00:53:19.563 --> 00:53:21.131
LINK SELECTED PARTICIPANTS WITH
00:53:21.197 --> 00:53:21.865
THE REHABILITATION PROGRAMS
00:53:21.932 --> 00:53:25.435
INSIDE. INSIDE AND OUTSIDE,
00:53:25.502 --> 00:53:27.771
PROVIDED A HIT ENHANCED TRAINING
00:53:27.837 --> 00:53:29.306
CONNECT INDIVIDUALS WITH
00:53:29.372 --> 00:53:30.774
EMPLOYERS PRIOR TO BEING
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.409
RELEASED AND RE SOURCES BEFORE
00:53:32.475 --> 00:53:33.677
LEAVINGPRESIDENT THE GOLD IS
00:53:33.743 --> 00:53:37.013
THIS PILOT PROGRAM? IS TO REDUCE
00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:38.615
, NOT ONLY THE RATE OF
00:53:38.682 --> 00:53:40.350
RECIDIVISM BUT ALSO PREVENT THE
00:53:40.417 --> 00:53:43.186
NEXT GENERATION FROM ENTERING
00:53:43.253 --> 00:53:44.688
INTO OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WITH ME
00:53:44.754 --> 00:53:49.259
TODAY TO TESTIFY. IS MATTHEW
00:53:49.326 --> 00:53:50.393
EASILY CHIEF LOBBYIST WITH THE
00:53:50.460 --> 00:53:51.828
CALIFORNIA CORRECTION. PEACE
00:53:51.895 --> 00:53:55.765
OFFICERS ATION. GREAT. THANK
00:53:55.832 --> 00:54:01.905
YOU. SO NOW WE WILL HEAR. THANK
00:54:01.972 --> 00:54:03.239
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR
00:54:03.306 --> 00:54:04.708
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MATTHEW
00:54:04.774 --> 00:54:06.009
EASILY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
00:54:06.076 --> 00:54:06.910
CORRECTIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
00:54:06.977 --> 00:54:08.979
ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TODAY TO
00:54:09.045 --> 00:54:11.648
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 27 30.
00:54:11.715 --> 00:54:12.549
THE ASSOCIATION IS VERY EXCITED
00:54:12.616 --> 00:54:13.750
ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT
00:54:13.817 --> 00:54:15.518
THIS BILL OFFERS. IT'S LONG PAST
00:54:15.585 --> 00:54:16.953
TIME THAT THE STATE OF
00:54:17.020 --> 00:54:18.288
CALIFORNIA TOOK A HARD LOOK AT
00:54:18.355 --> 00:54:19.422
HOW IT DELIVERS REHABILITATIVE
00:54:19.489 --> 00:54:20.156
AND VOCATIONAL TRAINING
00:54:20.223 --> 00:54:22.425
PROGRAMS. CDC ARE CURRENTLY
00:54:22.492 --> 00:54:23.393
OFFERS A LARGE ASSORTMENT OF
00:54:23.460 --> 00:54:24.928
THESE PROGRAMS, BUT THEY'RE
00:54:24.995 --> 00:54:26.029
LACKING IN SEVERAL KEY FACTORS
00:54:26.096 --> 00:54:26.930
THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED BY THIS
00:54:26.997 --> 00:54:29.766
BILL. MANY OF THE PROGRAMS
00:54:29.833 --> 00:54:30.834
CURRENTLY OFFERED LIKE CLEAR
00:54:30.900 --> 00:54:32.202
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND THE
00:54:32.268 --> 00:54:34.671
STATE DOES NOT SEEM TO
00:54:34.738 --> 00:54:35.271
SUFFICIENTLY EVALUATE WHETHER
00:54:35.338 --> 00:54:36.673
THESE PROGRAMS ARE ACTUALLY A
00:54:36.740 --> 00:54:38.108
SUCCESS. THIS ONLY LEADS TO THE
00:54:38.174 --> 00:54:39.009
CONTINUATION OF NEARLY EVERY NEW
00:54:39.075 --> 00:54:40.143
PROGRAM ENDLESSLY WHETHER OR NOT
00:54:40.210 --> 00:54:43.013
IT IS WORKING. THE NATURE OF THE
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:44.614
PROPOSED PILOT PROGRAM LENDS
00:54:44.681 --> 00:54:46.182
ITSELF TO BE REEVALUATED BECAUSE
00:54:46.249 --> 00:54:47.717
IT'S TARGETED AT DELIVERING REAL
00:54:47.784 --> 00:54:48.318
CHANGE AND REDUCTION OF
00:54:48.385 --> 00:54:49.619
RECIDIVISM, NOT JUST ANOTHER
00:54:49.686 --> 00:54:51.454
PROGRAM FOR THE SAKE OF
00:54:51.521 --> 00:54:53.023
ACCOUNTING PARTICIPANTS.
00:54:53.089 --> 00:54:54.424
EXISTING VOCATIONAL TRAINING
00:54:54.491 --> 00:54:55.925
PROGRAMS OFTEN HAVE NO
00:54:55.992 --> 00:54:57.427
CORRELATION TO THE NEEDS OF THE
00:54:57.494 --> 00:54:59.195
COMMUNITIES TO WHICH THE INMATES
00:54:59.262 --> 00:55:00.330
WILL BE RELEASED, AND THIS
00:55:00.397 --> 00:55:01.164
RESULTS IN SUBSTANTIAL WASTE OF
00:55:01.231 --> 00:55:02.065
TIME AND MONEY UPON RELEASE.
00:55:02.132 --> 00:55:03.166
THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE
00:55:03.233 --> 00:55:05.402
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THIS
00:55:05.468 --> 00:55:06.369
OFTEN LEADS TO FORMALLY
00:55:06.436 --> 00:55:08.204
INCARCERATED TO TURN BACK TO
00:55:08.271 --> 00:55:09.339
CRIME WHEN THEY HAVE NO OTHER
00:55:09.406 --> 00:55:12.042
OPTIONS. MAYBE 27 30 DIRECTLY
00:55:12.108 --> 00:55:13.710
ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE BY WORKING
00:55:13.777 --> 00:55:14.911
WITH THE EMPLOYERS TO IDENTIFY
00:55:14.978 --> 00:55:16.179
THE NEEDS, TRAINING
00:55:16.246 --> 00:55:16.780
OPPORTUNITIES AND POSITIONS,
00:55:16.846 --> 00:55:17.547
POTENTIAL POSITIONS OF
00:55:17.614 --> 00:55:20.650
EMPLOYMENT. THE SETTING IS ALSO
00:55:20.717 --> 00:55:21.785
AN IMPORTANT FACTOR FOR
00:55:21.851 --> 00:55:23.853
SUCCESSFUL REHABILITATION. FOR
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:25.088
THOSE WILLING TO FOLLOW THE
00:55:25.155 --> 00:55:26.189
RULES AND MAKE APPROPRIATE
00:55:26.256 --> 00:55:27.323
CHANGES AND COMMITMENTS THEY
00:55:27.390 --> 00:55:29.159
NEED TO BE SEPARATED FROM THE
00:55:29.225 --> 00:55:30.460
GENERAL POPULATION. THE
00:55:30.527 --> 00:55:31.961
SEPARATION IS IMPERATIVE BECAUSE
00:55:32.028 --> 00:55:33.029
EVEN WITH THE APPROPRIATE
00:55:33.096 --> 00:55:34.698
MOTIVATIONS AND INTENTIONS,
00:55:34.764 --> 00:55:36.166
DEPRESSION, THE PRESSURES OFTEN
00:55:36.232 --> 00:55:38.635
FOUND FROM FELLOW INMATES CAN BE
00:55:38.702 --> 00:55:39.903
TOO GREAT TO KEEP THEIR FOCUS ON
00:55:39.969 --> 00:55:41.404
THE SUCCESSFUL PARTICIPATION.
00:55:41.471 --> 00:55:43.673
PRISON POLITICS CAN OFTEN BE
00:55:43.740 --> 00:55:44.274
INESCAPABLE WHEN PROGRAMS AND
00:55:44.340 --> 00:55:45.909
HOUSING ARE DELIVERED IN THE
00:55:45.975 --> 00:55:47.343
SAME ENVIRONMENT AS THOSE WHO
00:55:47.410 --> 00:55:48.578
HAVE NO INTENTION OF IMPROVING
00:55:48.645 --> 00:55:50.814
THEMSELVES. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.348
TO REMEMBER THAT REGARDLESS OF
00:55:52.415 --> 00:55:53.516
THE ENVIRONMENT, ACCOUNTABILITY
00:55:53.583 --> 00:55:54.718
IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE
00:55:54.784 --> 00:55:55.952
SUCCESS OF ANY PROGRAM DELIVERED
00:55:56.019 --> 00:55:58.521
IN PRISON. THERE NEEDS TO BE
00:55:58.588 --> 00:55:59.456
CONSEQUENCES FOR FAILING TO
00:55:59.522 --> 00:56:01.491
FOLLOW THE RULES AND ANYONE WHO
00:56:01.558 --> 00:56:02.225
CHOOSES TO BE DISRUPTIVE,
00:56:02.292 --> 00:56:03.993
VIOLENT OR THREATENING SHOULD BE
00:56:04.060 --> 00:56:05.995
REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM FOR THE
00:56:06.062 --> 00:56:07.263
SAKE OF EVERYONE ELSE'S SUCCESS.
00:56:07.330 --> 00:56:08.798
THE POST RELEASE, PROGRAM,
00:56:08.865 --> 00:56:10.133
PARTICIPATION AND SERVICES
00:56:10.200 --> 00:56:11.234
OFFERED ARE ALSO IMPORTANT TO
00:56:11.301 --> 00:56:13.803
THE REHABILITATIVE PROCESS. THE
00:56:13.870 --> 00:56:15.038
FACT THAT PARTICIPANTS WILL BE
00:56:15.105 --> 00:56:16.673
GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO
00:56:16.740 --> 00:56:18.274
SUCCEED AND BE SUPPORTED AFTER
00:56:18.341 --> 00:56:20.176
RELEASE WILL GO A LONG WAY TO
00:56:20.243 --> 00:56:21.144
ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE
00:56:21.211 --> 00:56:23.480
TOOLS TO EVENTUALLY STAND ON
00:56:23.546 --> 00:56:24.714
THEIR OWN TWO FT AND ADJUST TO
00:56:24.781 --> 00:56:25.815
THEIR NEW LIFE OUTSIDE OF
00:56:25.882 --> 00:56:27.383
PRISON. FOR THESE REASONS. CCPOA
00:56:27.450 --> 00:56:29.219
SUPPORTS A B 27 30 AND ASKED FOR
00:56:29.285 --> 00:56:31.121
YOU TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
00:56:31.187 --> 00:56:32.789
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK
00:56:32.856 --> 00:56:34.858
YOU ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
00:56:34.924 --> 00:56:36.860
SUPPORT OF 27 30 STATE YOUR NAME
00:56:36.926 --> 00:56:40.897
IN YOUR ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. MR
00:56:40.964 --> 00:56:42.499
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. STANFILL IS
00:56:42.565 --> 00:56:43.700
AUTO ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
00:56:43.767 --> 00:56:44.300
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
00:56:44.367 --> 00:56:45.268
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT
00:56:45.335 --> 00:56:49.539
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, GLENN
00:56:49.606 --> 00:56:50.974
BACCHUS VILLA BAKER CENTER FOR
00:56:51.040 --> 00:56:52.108
HUMAN RIGHTS AND SUPPORT OF THE
00:56:52.175 --> 00:57:00.183
BILL IN PRINT. THANK YOU. ANY
00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:02.018
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE
00:57:02.085 --> 00:57:03.086
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
00:57:03.153 --> 00:57:07.323
OF 27 30. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
00:57:07.390 --> 00:57:08.892
SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS
00:57:08.958 --> 00:57:12.829
10 AT THIS TIME. OUR FIRST
00:57:12.896 --> 00:57:16.132
COMMENT COMES FROM LINE 88. YOUR
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:24.808
LINE IS OPEN. PLANE 88 YOUR LINE
00:57:24.874 --> 00:57:28.778
IS OPEN. HI. THIS IS LESLIE
00:57:28.845 --> 00:57:31.281
CALDWELL, HOUSTON FROM THECALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
00:57:31.347 --> 00:57:32.982
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
00:57:33.049 --> 00:57:40.123
YOU NEXT WITNESS. NEXT LINE IS
00:57:40.190 --> 00:57:44.093
LYING. 97, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
00:57:44.160 --> 00:57:45.361
MORNING SHARING MEMBERS. AT
00:57:45.428 --> 00:57:46.529
LEAST OUR CITY AKONA WITH THE
00:57:46.596 --> 00:57:48.331
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IN
00:57:48.398 --> 00:57:53.503
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME
00:57:53.570 --> 00:57:56.439
WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN QUÊ. ALL
00:57:56.506 --> 00:57:58.775
RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO
00:57:58.842 --> 00:58:00.643
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE
00:58:00.710 --> 00:58:02.178
? THERE'S NO LEAD WITNESS LISTED
00:58:02.245 --> 00:58:03.880
HERE IN OPPOSITION. IS ANYONE IN
00:58:03.947 --> 00:58:05.515
HERE IN ROOM 1 12 WISHING TO
00:58:05.582 --> 00:58:08.818
TESTIFY AND OPPOSITION 27 30. TO
00:58:08.885 --> 00:58:10.253
NONE. LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.021
LINES. MODERATOR CAN YOU CUE UP
00:58:12.088 --> 00:58:13.089
WITNESSES WISHING TO SPEAK IN
00:58:13.156 --> 00:58:16.626
OPPOSITION? IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
00:58:16.693 --> 00:58:18.895
SPEAK IN THE OPPOSITION OF THIS
00:58:18.962 --> 00:58:20.530
TOPIC, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
00:58:20.597 --> 00:58:32.108
TIME. CARE CURRENTLY, AT THIS
00:58:32.175 --> 00:58:36.179
TIME WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP
00:58:36.246 --> 00:58:37.180
COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY
00:58:37.247 --> 00:58:38.882
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SENATOR
00:58:38.948 --> 00:58:40.683
KAMLAGER. MADAM CHAIR. SO, UM I
00:58:40.750 --> 00:58:45.088
HAVE A FEW. THIS WILL BE A GRANT
00:58:45.154 --> 00:58:47.156
. THIS WOULD BE A PILOT PROGRAM
00:58:47.223 --> 00:58:49.292
AND THE FUNDING PURSUANT TO THE
00:58:49.359 --> 00:58:50.393
APPROPRIATION OF THE LEGISLATURE
00:58:50.460 --> 00:58:52.695
WOULD GO TO C D. C ARE CORRECT.
00:58:52.762 --> 00:58:54.864
OKAY AND IT'S CDCR WORKING IN
00:58:54.931 --> 00:58:56.532
CONCERT WITH OTHER NONPROFIT
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:57.867
ORGANIZATIONS. OR IS THIS
00:58:57.934 --> 00:58:59.702
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FULLY?
00:58:59.769 --> 00:59:02.639
UM OPERATED BY DEVELOPED BY
00:59:02.705 --> 00:59:12.048
CDCR. OKAY? YEAH THEY COULD WORK
00:59:12.115 --> 00:59:13.683
WITH THE ONES THAT DETERMINE WHO
00:59:13.750 --> 00:59:14.918
THEY ARE. RIGHT LET'S SEE. I'LL
00:59:14.984 --> 00:59:16.119
BE WILLING TO WORK WITH ANYONE
00:59:16.185 --> 00:59:18.821
WHO HAS HAS HAS THE EXPERIENCE
00:59:18.888 --> 00:59:22.158
HAS BEEN DOING THIS, BUT YEAH.
00:59:22.225 --> 00:59:23.960
BUT THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO
00:59:24.027 --> 00:59:25.094
COULD DECIDE THAT THEY WOULD
00:59:25.161 --> 00:59:27.797
FULLY OPERATE. DEVELOPED
00:59:27.864 --> 00:59:31.434
PROGRAM. ASSESS EVALUATE
00:59:31.501 --> 00:59:35.905
CONTINUE. THIS PROGRAM ON ITS
00:59:35.972 --> 00:59:40.076
OWN, RIGHT. OKAY, UM AND SO HOW
00:59:40.143 --> 00:59:43.913
DOES THIS ONE DIFFERENT. HOW IS
00:59:43.980 --> 00:59:48.117
THIS DIFFERENT FROM? ANY OF THE
00:59:48.184 --> 00:59:50.019
OTHER PROGRAMS, AND THERE ARE
00:59:50.086 --> 00:59:52.555
MANY THAT CDCR OPERATES TO
00:59:52.622 --> 00:59:54.090
PREPARE FOLKS WHO ARE
00:59:54.157 --> 00:59:55.191
INCARCERATED FOR JOB READINESS
00:59:55.258 --> 00:59:57.160
ON THE OUTSIDE. IS THERE SOME
00:59:57.226 --> 01:00:00.029
UNIQUE ASPECT TO THIS PROGRAM,
01:00:00.096 --> 01:00:02.799
OR IS IT AN ENHANCEMENT OF
01:00:02.865 --> 01:00:04.701
SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY DONE
01:00:04.767 --> 01:00:05.835
IN? YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPAND
01:00:05.902 --> 01:00:06.970
THOSE OUTCOMES. EXPAND THE
01:00:07.036 --> 01:00:11.074
PROGRAM. AND IT MAKES SENSE TO
01:00:11.140 --> 01:00:13.710
EXPAND. PROGRAMS THAT ARE
01:00:13.776 --> 01:00:17.246
CURRENTLY BEING OFFERED. THAT
01:00:17.313 --> 01:00:18.548
HAVE PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AS
01:00:18.614 --> 01:00:24.387
OPPOSED TO OFFERING A DIFFERENT. PERSPECTIVE OR SKEWING IT
01:00:24.454 --> 01:00:26.322
SLIGHTLY. I'M JUST TRYING TO
01:00:26.389 --> 01:00:27.724
FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS LIKE MORE
01:00:27.790 --> 01:00:29.525
OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OR IF THIS
01:00:29.592 --> 01:00:30.593
IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YEAH. SO
01:00:30.660 --> 01:00:35.665
LET THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO DO
01:00:35.732 --> 01:00:36.733
SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
01:00:36.799 --> 01:00:38.134
LOOK AT THE MARKET. LIKE WHAT?
01:00:38.201 --> 01:00:40.169
WHERE ARE WE HIRING? WHERE DO WE
01:00:40.236 --> 01:00:42.638
NEED JOBS AT AND I CAN TELL YOU
01:00:42.705 --> 01:00:44.707
RIGHT NOW, AS I SPOKE EARLIER.
01:00:44.774 --> 01:00:46.142
IT IS THIS TO SAY IT WAS THE
01:00:46.209 --> 01:00:47.176
TRUCKING INDUSTRY, RIGHT? YOU
01:00:47.243 --> 01:00:50.113
CAN DRIVE DOWN ANY I FIVE OR 99
01:00:50.179 --> 01:00:52.015
. IT IS NEEDED. YOU KNOW, THERE
01:00:52.081 --> 01:00:52.982
WAS A STUDY. UH, FOUR YEARS AGO
01:00:53.049 --> 01:00:57.020
THAT 30% OF THE INDUSTRY. WE'RE
01:00:57.086 --> 01:00:59.555
GOING TO RETIRE. WE NEED
01:00:59.622 --> 01:01:00.423
TRUCKERS. NOW YOU'VE BEEN
01:01:00.490 --> 01:01:02.925
HEARING AT OUR PORTS NEED THEM,
01:01:02.992 --> 01:01:04.927
NOT JUST A. IT'S NOT JUST A
01:01:04.994 --> 01:01:06.162
STATE ISSUE. IT'S A IT'S A
01:01:06.229 --> 01:01:08.765
NATIONAL ISSUE. THESE ARE JOBS
01:01:08.831 --> 01:01:12.468
THAT IT DOESN'T NEED SIX MONTHS
01:01:12.535 --> 01:01:15.705
OR A YEAR TO GET YOUR CLASS A
01:01:15.772 --> 01:01:16.339
LICENSE. YOU CAN GET YOUR CLASS
01:01:16.406 --> 01:01:17.940
A LICENSE IN 30 MONTHS AND 30
01:01:18.007 --> 01:01:19.909
DAYS, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS
01:01:19.976 --> 01:01:22.412
MAKE SURE THAT AS AS WE TALKED
01:01:22.478 --> 01:01:25.448
EARLIER THAT IT'S MOST MOST OF
01:01:25.515 --> 01:01:27.183
MOST OF THE TIME. IT'S AFTER
01:01:27.250 --> 01:01:30.053
THEY GET RELEASED.AND I WANT TO
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.821
DO IT BEFORE THEY GET RELEASED.
01:01:31.888 --> 01:01:33.790
I WANT TO BE. I WANT TO MAKE
01:01:33.856 --> 01:01:35.158
SURE THAT THEY ARE ALREADY
01:01:35.224 --> 01:01:36.359
TALKING TO THEIR JOB. EMPLOYER.
01:01:36.426 --> 01:01:38.761
WELL, THEIR INSIGHT. AND THEN
01:01:38.828 --> 01:01:40.763
WHEN THEY GET RELEASED, I DON'T
01:01:40.830 --> 01:01:42.765
WANT A BREAK. AND THAT'S WHAT
01:01:42.832 --> 01:01:44.300
HAPPENS. A LOT IS A LOT OF FOLKS
01:01:44.367 --> 01:01:47.303
GET RELEASED. THEY GET THROWN
01:01:47.370 --> 01:01:49.739
INTO THIS LIKE CIRCLE OF
01:01:49.806 --> 01:01:50.373
TRANSPORTATION. THEY DON'T HAVE
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:51.240
TRANSPORTATION. THEY DON'T KNOW
01:01:51.307 --> 01:01:54.043
HOW TO GET TO YOU KNOW THERE,
01:01:54.110 --> 01:01:55.144
OFFICER THERE, OFFICER TELLS HIM
01:01:55.211 --> 01:01:57.180
TO GO TO WORK NET AND IT JUST
01:01:57.246 --> 01:01:58.948
THIS IS VICIOUS CIRCLE, RIGHT?
01:01:59.015 --> 01:02:00.216
AND IT JUST IT ALMOST, YOU KNOW,
01:02:00.283 --> 01:02:02.985
WANTS YOU TO FAIL. I WANT TO DO
01:02:03.052 --> 01:02:05.254
IT BEFORE I WANTED AS THEY GET
01:02:05.321 --> 01:02:06.522
RELEASED. THEY HAVE THEIR JOB.
01:02:06.589 --> 01:02:08.124
THEY KNOW THEIR EMPLOYER. THEN
01:02:08.191 --> 01:02:09.592
WE HAVE A PAYCHECK READY FOR
01:02:09.659 --> 01:02:11.194
THEM RIGHT, SO IT'S ALMOST
01:02:11.260 --> 01:02:12.628
WRAPPED AROUND SERVICES. THAT'S
01:02:12.695 --> 01:02:15.865
MY INTENT OF THIS BILL. I
01:02:15.932 --> 01:02:17.066
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. IN
01:02:17.133 --> 01:02:21.270
FACT, WE, UM. HAVE INCARCERATED
01:02:21.337 --> 01:02:22.772
PEOPLE WHO ARE LEARNING SKILLS
01:02:22.839 --> 01:02:24.407
WHILE THEY'RE IN PRISON AND ARE
01:02:24.474 --> 01:02:26.676
DOING JOBS IN PRISON, AND WHEN
01:02:26.742 --> 01:02:28.277
THEY GET OUT OF PRISON, THOSE
01:02:28.344 --> 01:02:29.846
SAME INDUSTRIES OR EVEN THOSE
01:02:29.912 --> 01:02:31.447
SAME BUSINESSES THAT IN FACT
01:02:31.514 --> 01:02:33.616
CONTRACT THROUGH CAL P I A N
01:02:33.683 --> 01:02:37.386
CDCR. DON'T HIRE THEM. SO
01:02:37.453 --> 01:02:40.456
THERE'S A GAP MOSTLY BECAUSE WE
01:02:40.523 --> 01:02:42.024
HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS, AND WE
01:02:42.091 --> 01:02:43.559
WORK WITH COMPANIES THAT DON'T
01:02:43.626 --> 01:02:45.461
HIRE FOLKS OUTSIDE, BUT
01:02:45.528 --> 01:02:46.929
CERTAINLY USED THE FOLKS INSIDE
01:02:46.996 --> 01:02:47.964
, POSSIBLY BECAUSE IT'S FREE
01:02:48.030 --> 01:02:53.169
LABOR. UM SO ARE IF YOU ARE
01:02:53.236 --> 01:02:55.171
TRYING TO CREATE A NEXUS. SO YOU
01:02:55.238 --> 01:02:56.506
USE THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY, FOR
01:02:56.572 --> 01:03:00.276
EXAMPLE, UM IS THIS AN INDUSTRY
01:03:00.343 --> 01:03:02.712
THAT ALSO THAT CURRENTLY HAS A
01:03:02.778 --> 01:03:04.413
RELATIONSHIP WITH CDCR, SO THAT
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:05.548
IN FACT, IF THEY'RE DOING
01:03:05.615 --> 01:03:07.750
SOMETHING WHILE THERE ALREADY
01:03:07.817 --> 01:03:08.818
INCARCERATED AND THEY'RE BEING
01:03:08.885 --> 01:03:13.422
TRAINED IN THIS AREA OR TO LEARN
01:03:13.489 --> 01:03:15.324
CERTAIN SKILLS THAT ARE REQUIRED
01:03:15.391 --> 01:03:16.826
OF YOU AS A TRUCKER THAT THERE'S
01:03:16.893 --> 01:03:19.328
YOU KNOW, A NEXUS OR A PIPELINE
01:03:19.395 --> 01:03:20.463
TO THAT INDUSTRY. GREAT
01:03:20.530 --> 01:03:21.497
QUESTION, SENATOR. I MEAN, I
01:03:21.564 --> 01:03:26.035
ACTUALLY HAD. I WAS A SPEAKER AT
01:03:26.102 --> 01:03:27.136
THE CALIFORNIA TRUCKERS
01:03:27.203 --> 01:03:28.905
ASSOCIATION. RIGHT AND I BROUGHT
01:03:28.971 --> 01:03:31.507
THIS IDEA AND THEY APPLAUDED SO
01:03:31.574 --> 01:03:32.241
THE RELATIONSHIP IS NOT THERE,
01:03:32.308 --> 01:03:34.677
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
01:03:34.744 --> 01:03:37.813
GOES THERE. THEY'RE LIKE I SAID
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:39.782
EARLIER, THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT
01:03:39.849 --> 01:03:42.084
I STARTED BEFORE I GOT HERE.
01:03:42.151 --> 01:03:43.419
THEY WELCOME THAT. THEY'RE
01:03:43.486 --> 01:03:45.087
THEY'RE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE
01:03:45.154 --> 01:03:47.023
RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO GIVE FOLKS
01:03:47.089 --> 01:03:49.325
AH! THAT SECOND CHANCE FOR THAT
01:03:49.392 --> 01:03:51.093
THIRD CHANCE SO THEREFORE CHANCE
01:03:51.160 --> 01:03:55.331
THEY I HEAR THAT MORE MORE OFTEN
01:03:55.398 --> 01:03:56.899
, YOU KNOW. PLEASE LET ME HELP
01:03:56.966 --> 01:03:58.768
YOU. AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING
01:03:58.834 --> 01:04:00.670
TRUCKERS. IT COULD BE A CHURCH
01:04:00.736 --> 01:04:02.104
FACT. I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WERE
01:04:02.171 --> 01:04:05.041
THESE JOBS ARE NEEDED. MHM SO I
01:04:05.107 --> 01:04:09.912
NOTICED THAT, UM SERIOUSLY ARE
01:04:09.979 --> 01:04:12.548
HAS CDCR. COME HAVE THEY SENT A
01:04:12.615 --> 01:04:14.050
LETTER OF SUPPORT OR HAVE THEY?
01:04:14.116 --> 01:04:19.889
I GUESS THEY CAN'T BUT. OKAY WE
01:04:19.956 --> 01:04:21.457
HAVE BEEN PROVIDING TECHNICAL
01:04:21.524 --> 01:04:22.758
ASSISTANCE. OKAY GREAT. OKAY SO
01:04:22.825 --> 01:04:24.794
I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. I AM
01:04:24.860 --> 01:04:25.861
GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL. BUT
01:04:25.928 --> 01:04:27.063
THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THE
01:04:27.129 --> 01:04:31.767
QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE UM THE.
01:04:31.834 --> 01:04:34.537
PESSIMISTIC SIDE OF ME SEES THIS
01:04:34.604 --> 01:04:36.105
AS A MONEY GRAB FOR CDCR TO
01:04:36.172 --> 01:04:38.541
CONTINUE TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO
01:04:38.608 --> 01:04:40.042
GET MONEY AND AT THE END OF THE
01:04:40.109 --> 01:04:41.277
DAY, IT REALLY SHOULD BE ABOUT
01:04:41.344 --> 01:04:42.878
LIKE ADDRESSING REHABILITATION
01:04:42.945 --> 01:04:43.813
WHILE YOU ARE INCARCERATED AND
01:04:43.879 --> 01:04:45.081
PREPARING YOU FOR SUCCESSFUL RE
01:04:45.147 --> 01:04:49.051
ENTRY ON THE OUTSIDE. AND SO, UM
01:04:49.118 --> 01:04:51.387
, I AM ALWAYS CAUTIOUS IF I FEEL
01:04:51.454 --> 01:04:52.822
LIKE THERE'S A SNEAK ATTACK
01:04:52.888 --> 01:04:54.390
GOING ON BY THE DEPARTMENT
01:04:54.457 --> 01:04:57.293
BECAUSE THE METRICS AND HOW THAT
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:58.995
PROGRAMS ARE STILL OFFERED,
01:04:59.061 --> 01:05:01.230
LEAVE A LOT TO BE DESIRED. THERE
01:05:01.297 --> 01:05:02.098
ARE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT
01:05:02.164 --> 01:05:04.767
ARE DELINEATED IN THE ANALYSIS.
01:05:04.834 --> 01:05:07.370
THAT ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL HAVE
01:05:07.436 --> 01:05:08.738
REALLY GOOD OUTCOMES AND
01:05:08.804 --> 01:05:10.873
CONTINUE TO BE UNDERFUNDED. AND
01:05:10.940 --> 01:05:13.175
SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE.
01:05:13.242 --> 01:05:14.377
UM AND THIS IS A POLICY MEETING
01:05:14.443 --> 01:05:17.213
HEARING, NOT A BUDGET MEETING. I
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:19.548
GET IT, BUT WHEN WE HAVE
01:05:19.615 --> 01:05:20.283
POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE
01:05:20.349 --> 01:05:22.518
ON THE BOOKS THAT ARE PROVEN TO
01:05:22.585 --> 01:05:23.185
BE SUCCESSFUL, WE SHOULD BE
01:05:23.252 --> 01:05:25.788
WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
01:05:25.855 --> 01:05:27.056
ENHANCING THEM. HAVING SAID THAT
01:05:27.123 --> 01:05:30.760
I ALSO SUPPORT UM, INNOVATIVE
01:05:30.826 --> 01:05:33.396
WAYS OF TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME
01:05:33.462 --> 01:05:36.465
OF THE GAPS THAT ARE UM PRESENT
01:05:36.532 --> 01:05:40.403
IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND IT DOES
01:05:40.469 --> 01:05:42.505
NOT MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO HAVE A
01:05:42.571 --> 01:05:44.073
PILOT PROGRAM. THAT'S ALSO HOLY
01:05:44.140 --> 01:05:52.415
OPERATED BY UH, DIVISION. THAT
01:05:52.481 --> 01:05:54.717
MAY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO IT
01:05:54.784 --> 01:05:56.686
EFFECTIVELY SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE
01:05:56.752 --> 01:05:59.689
YOU TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY
01:05:59.755 --> 01:06:02.224
TO NOT MAKE IT, UM AT THE SOLE
01:06:02.291 --> 01:06:05.061
DISCRETION OF CDCR TO WORK WITH
01:06:05.127 --> 01:06:06.729
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS
01:06:06.796 --> 01:06:07.596
AND EVEN ASSOCIATIONS AND
01:06:07.663 --> 01:06:09.065
NONPROFIT ASSOCIATIONS AND
01:06:09.131 --> 01:06:10.299
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO
01:06:10.366 --> 01:06:12.535
UNDERSTAND THIS POPULATION. AND
01:06:12.601 --> 01:06:14.403
ALSO HAVE RESOURCES TO HELP THIS
01:06:14.470 --> 01:06:16.706
POPULATION. THANK YOU, SENATOR.
01:06:16.772 --> 01:06:19.075
I MEAN, I THIS IDEA WAS NOT THE
01:06:19.141 --> 01:06:20.776
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IDEA
01:06:20.843 --> 01:06:22.978
WAS MY INDIVIDUALLY I ACTUALLY
01:06:23.045 --> 01:06:24.146
WAS THE ONE THAT WAS TRYING TO
01:06:24.213 --> 01:06:25.948
PUSH THIS THROUGH. THIS IS
01:06:26.015 --> 01:06:28.417
BEFORE I EVEN CAME AS A
01:06:28.484 --> 01:06:30.086
LEGISLATOR. AS I SAID, I STARTED
01:06:30.152 --> 01:06:32.788
A SMALL PILOT PROGRAM THAT I SAW
01:06:32.855 --> 01:06:35.057
THAT THERE WAS NO ONE INVESTED
01:06:35.124 --> 01:06:41.664
IN THIS. THERE WAS LITERALLY THE. THE MOM AND POP BUSINESS THAT
01:06:41.731 --> 01:06:42.765
WANTED TO SEE THIS DONE. THEY
01:06:42.832 --> 01:06:44.734
WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IDEAS
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:46.268
. HOW CAN WE GET MORE FOLKS
01:06:46.335 --> 01:06:48.170
WORKING? AND THIS IS FOUR YEARS
01:06:48.237 --> 01:06:50.373
AGO? FIVE YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY.
01:06:50.439 --> 01:06:52.675
AND IT'S BEEN WORKING. SO IF
01:06:52.742 --> 01:06:54.643
I'VE SEEN THIS WITH NO, NO, NO
01:06:54.710 --> 01:06:56.078
ONE NO ONE TO INVEST THE IT
01:06:56.145 --> 01:06:59.515
DOWN. I MYSELF YOU KNOW, I WANT
01:06:59.582 --> 01:07:00.950
TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S NOT
01:07:01.016 --> 01:07:02.251
ABOUT PROFIT. IT'S ABOUT DOING
01:07:02.318 --> 01:07:06.021
THE JOB AND DOING IT RIGHT. ANY
01:07:06.088 --> 01:07:12.428
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. UM I WANT
01:07:12.495 --> 01:07:14.096
TO COMMEND YOU FOR THIS. I THINK
01:07:14.163 --> 01:07:16.966
IT'S A LOT OF, UM, MEASURE BUT I
01:07:17.032 --> 01:07:19.468
THINK ASPIRATIONAL AT BEST IF
01:07:19.535 --> 01:07:21.070
YOU WERE TO ASK ME A C, D. C. D.
01:07:21.137 --> 01:07:25.307
C. R S RECORD ON REAL ABILITY,
01:07:25.374 --> 01:07:26.809
REHABILITATION. I WOULD GIVE HIM
01:07:26.876 --> 01:07:29.412
AN F. AND SO MY CONCERNS ARE
01:07:29.478 --> 01:07:31.914
SIMILAR TO MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR
01:07:31.981 --> 01:07:34.183
KAMLAGER BECAUSE AGAIN OF THE
01:07:34.250 --> 01:07:38.487
REAL HIGH SKILLED. TRAINING THAT
01:07:38.554 --> 01:07:40.222
INDIVIDUALS GET ONCE THEY GET
01:07:40.289 --> 01:07:41.924
OUT. THEY CAN'T GET HIRED AND
01:07:41.991 --> 01:07:42.992
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AS
01:07:43.058 --> 01:07:45.227
SIMPLE AS A COSMETOLOGIST,
01:07:45.294 --> 01:07:46.529
BEAUTICIAN OF BARBER, A
01:07:46.595 --> 01:07:48.831
FIREFIGHTER, AND THEY WON'T ARM
01:07:48.898 --> 01:07:50.065
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
01:07:50.132 --> 01:07:52.301
WHAT IS HERE. THAT'S GOING TO
01:07:52.368 --> 01:07:54.470
MAKE FOLKS WANT TO HIRE EX
01:07:54.537 --> 01:07:56.639
OFFENDERS WHEN THEY COME UP WITH
01:07:56.705 --> 01:07:59.275
1000 REASONS WHY THEY DON'T WANT
01:07:59.341 --> 01:08:00.443
TO AND MOST OF WHAT THEY'RE
01:08:00.509 --> 01:08:02.178
TRAINED IN. THEY ALREADY KNOW
01:08:02.244 --> 01:08:04.046
HOW TO DO, AND THAT'S MOP FLOORS
01:08:04.113 --> 01:08:05.381
AND CLEANING TOILETS BEFORE THEY
01:08:05.448 --> 01:08:06.849
GOT INCARCERATED. SO YEAH, IT'S
01:08:06.916 --> 01:08:08.050
GOING TO BE UNIQUE ABOUT THIS.
01:08:08.117 --> 01:08:09.084
YEAH, THANK YOU. THANKS,
01:08:09.151 --> 01:08:13.355
SENATOR. I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE RAN
01:08:13.422 --> 01:08:17.359
ON TRYING TO FIX YOU KNOW,
01:08:17.426 --> 01:08:18.461
TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS? I WAS
01:08:18.527 --> 01:08:20.763
TALKING ABOUT VOCATIONAL. IS
01:08:20.830 --> 01:08:21.964
ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT
01:08:22.031 --> 01:08:24.300
GENERATION, YOU KNOW, AND YOU
01:08:24.366 --> 01:08:24.934
HEAR THAT MORE AND MORE ABOUT
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:26.268
PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO HOMELESS
01:08:26.335 --> 01:08:28.904
. I'M TALKING ABOUT FIXING WHAT
01:08:28.971 --> 01:08:30.139
IS BENEATH US. THAT'S COMING IS
01:08:30.206 --> 01:08:33.375
THAT VOCATIONAL TRAINING? I AM.
01:08:33.442 --> 01:08:36.145
I WILL SEE TO THIS THAT
01:08:36.212 --> 01:08:38.047
VOCATIONAL YOU KNOW ALL THE WAY
01:08:38.113 --> 01:08:40.049
TO THE DAY I WALK OUT THAT
01:08:40.115 --> 01:08:41.484
VOCATIONAL TRAINING IS NUMBER
01:08:41.550 --> 01:08:42.685
ONE IN MY DISTRICT AND NUMBER
01:08:42.751 --> 01:08:44.787
ONE IN MY OFFICE. STAFF WILL YOU
01:08:44.854 --> 01:08:46.055
KNOW WILL HEAR ME OUT EVEN IN
01:08:46.121 --> 01:08:48.190
CAUCUS MEETINGS THAT I WILL HEAR
01:08:48.257 --> 01:08:49.925
THAT OUT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE
01:08:49.992 --> 01:08:51.727
SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING MONEY
01:08:51.794 --> 01:08:52.595
MORE IN VOCATIONAL BECAUSE THAT
01:08:52.661 --> 01:08:54.263
IS THAT IS REALLY THE TRUE
01:08:54.330 --> 01:08:55.364
ANSWER RIGHT NOW. IS TO GET
01:08:55.431 --> 01:08:57.099
PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, GIVEN THE
01:08:57.166 --> 01:08:58.634
HANDS AND TOOLS THAT THEY NEED,
01:08:58.701 --> 01:09:00.102
AND THERE'S FOLKS RIGHT NOW THAT
01:09:00.169 --> 01:09:03.038
WHEN THEY GET RELEASED, YOU KNOW
01:09:03.105 --> 01:09:05.040
THERE. THERE ARE A NUMBER AND I
01:09:05.107 --> 01:09:07.877
DON'T WANT THEM TO BE A NUMBER.
01:09:07.943 --> 01:09:09.845
I WANT THEM TO HAVE A NAME AND A
01:09:09.912 --> 01:09:10.412
JOB AND LITERALLY. AH! THE
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:12.214
PERSON WHO THEY'RE GOING TO BE
01:09:12.281 --> 01:09:13.816
HARD WITH BEFORE THE EXIT OUT.
01:09:13.883 --> 01:09:15.217
THAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP THAT
01:09:15.284 --> 01:09:17.286
I'M TRYING TO BUILD, NOT AFTER
01:09:17.353 --> 01:09:18.387
AFTER DOESN'T WORK. IT'S DURING
01:09:18.454 --> 01:09:21.657
AN END WHEN THEY GET RELEASED.
01:09:21.724 --> 01:09:22.791
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE CAREERS
01:09:22.858 --> 01:09:24.426
SOMETIMES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE
01:09:24.493 --> 01:09:26.795
SURE THAT WE'RE HELPING THOSE IN
01:09:26.862 --> 01:09:28.297
GUIDING THEM. THERE'S TIMES
01:09:28.364 --> 01:09:29.532
THAT, FOLKS DON'T DON'T BELIEVE
01:09:29.598 --> 01:09:31.500
IN THAT. THEY JUST GO THROUGH
01:09:31.567 --> 01:09:32.968
THIS BUSINESS CYCLE. OF GOING TO
01:09:33.035 --> 01:09:34.703
SEE THE CORRECTION OFFICER OR
01:09:34.770 --> 01:09:36.605
PAROLE OFFICER AND I'M NOT
01:09:36.672 --> 01:09:39.642
SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE, BUT UM
01:09:39.708 --> 01:09:41.076
, I HAVE A DAUGHTER. YOU KNOW,
01:09:41.143 --> 01:09:42.278
THAT DECIDED TO HAVE TWO
01:09:42.344 --> 01:09:44.046
DAUGHTERS THAT ONCE THAT DAVIS
01:09:44.113 --> 01:09:45.915
WANTS SEXY THE DATA THAT SAID,
01:09:45.981 --> 01:09:47.950
HEY, DAD, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO
01:09:48.017 --> 01:09:49.785
SCHOOL. I WANT TO LEARN. I WANT
01:09:49.852 --> 01:09:51.120
TO CUT HAIR. WELL GUESS WHAT? I
01:09:51.186 --> 01:09:53.556
HELPED HER TO HELP GUIDE AND I
01:09:53.622 --> 01:09:55.024
APPLAUD HER. BUT WE NEED FOLKS
01:09:55.090 --> 01:09:57.993
HERE THAT ALSO GUIDE AND A PLOT
01:09:58.060 --> 01:09:59.261
FOLKS THAT NEED TO HAVE THAT
01:09:59.328 --> 01:10:01.830
VOCATIONAL TRAINING AND I
01:10:01.897 --> 01:10:03.899
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I GO, I
01:10:03.966 --> 01:10:05.367
GET IT. VOCATIONAL TRAINING IS
01:10:05.434 --> 01:10:07.703
KEY, BUT AGAIN EMPLOYMENT
01:10:07.770 --> 01:10:09.004
AFTERWARDS BECAUSE AGAIN WE'VE
01:10:09.071 --> 01:10:10.406
HEARD FROM FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE
01:10:10.472 --> 01:10:12.207
WHO DON'T WANT TO HIRE EX
01:10:12.274 --> 01:10:13.242
OFFENDERS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT
01:10:13.309 --> 01:10:15.277
THEIR SKILL SET IS. AND THAT'S
01:10:15.344 --> 01:10:17.146
MY BIGGEST CONCERN. AND AT THE
01:10:17.212 --> 01:10:20.182
SAME TIME THE MINDSET OF CDCR
01:10:20.249 --> 01:10:22.685
SOMETIMES I QUESTION IS IT
01:10:22.751 --> 01:10:23.319
REALLY ABOUT REHABILITATION AND
01:10:23.385 --> 01:10:24.053
JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:25.054
INCARCERATION AND IMPRISONING
01:10:25.120 --> 01:10:28.591
FOLKS. AND I'VE HEARD FROM
01:10:28.657 --> 01:10:31.527
ENOUGH EX OFFENDERS WHOSE STATED
01:10:31.594 --> 01:10:33.195
I WANT TO BE TRAINED IN THAT AND
01:10:33.262 --> 01:10:35.097
THEY LAUGHED AT HIM AND SAYS NO.
01:10:35.164 --> 01:10:37.066
HE WILL BE AT THE FOUR O'CLOCK
01:10:37.132 --> 01:10:38.200
SHIFT AT FOUR A.M. SHIFT
01:10:38.267 --> 01:10:39.034
CLEANING THE KITCHEN. THAT'S
01:10:39.101 --> 01:10:40.169
WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING WHILE
01:10:40.235 --> 01:10:41.904
YOU'RE HERE. NOT GOING TO SCHOOL
01:10:41.971 --> 01:10:43.439
, NOT BEING TRAINED TO GET REAL
01:10:43.505 --> 01:10:45.174
SKILLS THAT WILL LEAD TO
01:10:45.240 --> 01:10:46.475
EMPLOYMENT ONCE THEY'RE RELEASED
01:10:46.542 --> 01:10:49.445
, SO I HOPE THIS PROGRAM WORKS.
01:10:49.511 --> 01:10:51.513
CAN YOU STATE THE AMENDMENTS
01:10:51.580 --> 01:10:52.514
THAT YOU'RE TAKING? LET'S
01:10:52.581 --> 01:11:04.259
CLARIFY THOSE.
01:11:04.326 --> 01:11:22.244
SORRY. THE TREMOR. OKAY? YEAH
01:11:22.311 --> 01:11:23.379
LIMITED PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY TO
01:11:23.445 --> 01:11:27.016
INCARCERATE PERSONS WHO HAVE A
01:11:27.082 --> 01:11:30.919
LEVEL 12 CÁC LEVEL REQUIRES CDCR
01:11:30.986 --> 01:11:32.354
TO INCLUDE THE REGULATIONS THAT
01:11:32.421 --> 01:11:34.056
DEPARTMENT WOULD REQUIRE
01:11:34.123 --> 01:11:35.758
SPECIFIED PROVISIONS RELATED TO
01:11:35.824 --> 01:11:38.794
RULES VIOLATIONS. SLASH FAILURE
01:11:38.861 --> 01:11:40.629
TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM
01:11:40.696 --> 01:11:42.264
INCLUDE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE
01:11:42.331 --> 01:11:43.499
STATING THAT THE THAT THE
01:11:43.565 --> 01:11:44.633
SECURITY AND CUSTODY OF
01:11:44.700 --> 01:11:47.336
SUPERVISION IN THE COMMUNITY
01:11:47.403 --> 01:11:49.371
CAMPUS SETTING WILL PROVIDE BY
01:11:49.438 --> 01:12:00.249
CDCR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS.
01:12:00.315 --> 01:12:04.620
YES, WE ARE. AWAY. OAN SHAME
01:12:04.687 --> 01:12:09.391
PAGE, OKAY? SO WE'RE XIQING A
01:12:09.458 --> 01:12:11.360
MOTION WE HAVE TO DO PASS AS
01:12:11.427 --> 01:12:13.729
AMENDED. IS THERE A MOTION ON 27
01:12:13.796 --> 01:12:24.907
30. BEEN MOVED BY SOONER, WIENER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
01:12:24.973 --> 01:12:26.542
ACTUALLY ASKED FOR AN I VOTE.
01:12:26.608 --> 01:12:28.110
OKAY COUNSELOR. PLEASE CALL THE
01:12:28.177 --> 01:12:32.281
ROLL ON A B 27 30. MAYBE 27 30
01:12:32.347 --> 01:12:35.284
BRADFORD, BRADFORD THO BOGUE
01:12:35.350 --> 01:12:37.019
SHOBOKSHI ICON LAGER KAMLAGER.
01:12:37.086 --> 01:12:41.657
AYE SKINNER WIENER. MEASURES
01:12:41.724 --> 01:12:42.858
FOUR VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROLE
01:12:42.925 --> 01:12:44.059
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK
01:12:44.126 --> 01:12:46.462
YOU. NOW WE'RE MOVING TO
01:12:46.528 --> 01:12:48.297
SIMILAR. MAINTAIN WE HAVE A B 9
01:12:48.363 --> 01:12:55.838
60. I BELIEVE. WHEN YOU'RE READY
01:12:55.904 --> 01:12:57.406
. YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU, MR
01:12:57.473 --> 01:12:59.708
CHAIR. SO MAYBE 9 60. WE
01:12:59.775 --> 01:13:00.943
STREAMLINE AND IMPROVE THE
01:13:01.009 --> 01:13:02.678
STATE'S COMPASSIONATE RELEASE.
01:13:02.745 --> 01:13:06.515
PROGRAM WITHIN CDCR. WE SAW 2016
01:13:06.582 --> 01:13:08.217
STUDY FROM THE U. S. DEPARTMENT
01:13:08.283 --> 01:13:10.185
OF JUSTICE, IDENTIFYING THAT
01:13:10.252 --> 01:13:12.554
RECIDIVISM OF PEOPLE RELEASED
01:13:12.621 --> 01:13:13.655
VIA FEDERAL. THE FEDERAL
01:13:13.722 --> 01:13:14.957
COMPASSION RELEASE PROGRAM WAS
01:13:15.023 --> 01:13:18.627
ONLY 3.5. PERCENT AND WHEN WE
01:13:18.694 --> 01:13:20.796
LOOKED AT CALIFORNIA'S
01:13:20.863 --> 01:13:21.697
COMPASSIONATE RELEASE PROGRAM
01:13:21.764 --> 01:13:24.399
BETWEEN JANUARY 2015 AND APRIL
01:13:24.466 --> 01:13:28.470
2021 306 PEOPLE WERE REFERRED TO
01:13:28.537 --> 01:13:30.739
THE PROGRAM. BUT 95 PEOPLE DIED
01:13:30.806 --> 01:13:31.874
BEFORE THE PROCESS COULD BE
01:13:31.940 --> 01:13:33.108
COMPLETED. ONLY 53 WERE ACTUALLY
01:13:33.175 --> 01:13:36.879
RELEASED. AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS
01:13:36.945 --> 01:13:38.981
IS A VERY EXPENSIVE GROUP OF
01:13:39.047 --> 01:13:41.016
PEOPLE TO KEEP HOUSING
01:13:41.083 --> 01:13:42.751
INCARCERATED. THEY OFTEN ARE
01:13:42.818 --> 01:13:45.854
QUITE ILL. THEY OBVIOUSLY BASED
01:13:45.921 --> 01:13:47.389
ON THEIR LIMITED PHYSICAL
01:13:47.456 --> 01:13:48.857
ABILITY, POSED VERY LITTLE TO NO
01:13:48.924 --> 01:13:52.995
RISK. TO THE GENERAL POPULATION
01:13:53.061 --> 01:13:54.663
, SO OUR BILL DOES A COUPLE
01:13:54.730 --> 01:13:56.732
THINGS WE SET TIMELINES ND
01:13:56.799 --> 01:13:59.134
TIMEFRAMES TO LOOK AT THIS
01:13:59.201 --> 01:14:00.435
PROCESS WE PROVIDE DUE PROCESS
01:14:00.502 --> 01:14:01.837
RIGHTS. WE ALSO EXPAND MEDICAL
01:14:01.904 --> 01:14:04.506
ELIGIBILITY INTO DISEASES THAT
01:14:04.573 --> 01:14:06.008
HAVE COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT LIKE
01:14:06.074 --> 01:14:08.210
DEMENTIA, AND WE ALSO REMOVE THE
01:14:08.277 --> 01:14:09.444
SECRETARY FROM THE REFERRAL
01:14:09.511 --> 01:14:11.280
PROCESS. WE FOUND THE SECRETARY
01:14:11.346 --> 01:14:13.515
WAS QUITE OFTEN ONE OF THE
01:14:13.582 --> 01:14:14.650
STUMBLING BLOCKS IN THE PROCESS
01:14:14.716 --> 01:14:16.485
THAT WE ARE ASKING THAT THE
01:14:16.552 --> 01:14:18.287
SECRETARY BE REMOVED WITH THAT
01:14:18.353 --> 01:14:19.421
RESPECT FOR OUR SURVIVAL FOR A B
01:14:19.488 --> 01:14:25.828
9 60. YOU HAVE TWO PRIMARY
01:14:25.894 --> 01:14:27.563
WITNESSES. AH. SAVAGE RODRIGUEZ
01:14:27.629 --> 01:14:33.335
AND WARWICK. IS THAT CORRECT?
01:14:33.402 --> 01:14:35.103
THAT'S RIGHT. ARE THEY ON THE
01:14:35.170 --> 01:14:37.606
LINE? THEY WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES
01:14:37.673 --> 01:14:38.774
EACH. WE CAN START WITH SAVAGE
01:14:38.841 --> 01:14:44.279
RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
01:14:44.346 --> 01:14:46.014
YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS
01:14:46.081 --> 01:14:48.317
KEVIN CARRIAGE EVERYDAY AND I AM
01:14:48.383 --> 01:14:50.252
A FORMULARY QUESTION DEPRESSION
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:51.420
AND A MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
01:14:51.486 --> 01:14:54.423
COALITION FOR WOMEN. AND THAT'S
01:14:54.489 --> 01:14:55.457
HOW CHRISTMAS THING OF THE 89
01:14:55.524 --> 01:14:59.194
60. I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SHANG
01:14:59.261 --> 01:15:01.263
SUPPORT CRAZY 9 50, BECAUSE
01:15:01.330 --> 01:15:03.432
STILL WOULD AND UM, EXPAND AND
01:15:03.498 --> 01:15:06.802
IMPROVE COMPASSIONATELY PROGRAM
01:15:06.869 --> 01:15:09.304
STATED AS HAUNTED MY TIME AND
01:15:09.371 --> 01:15:10.105
SKILL NOTIONS FACILITY AT
01:15:10.172 --> 01:15:13.842
CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. UM I
01:15:13.909 --> 01:15:15.577
PROVIDED CARE AND COMFORT FOR
01:15:15.644 --> 01:15:16.645
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AT THE END
01:15:16.712 --> 01:15:19.882
OF THEIR LIVES. I HAVE
01:15:19.948 --> 01:15:21.917
PERSONALLY PERSONALLY WITNESSED
01:15:21.984 --> 01:15:23.785
THAT FAILURE IN THE PROCESS
01:15:23.852 --> 01:15:25.888
DESIGNED TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO
01:15:25.954 --> 01:15:27.990
THE MOST ONE OF A LITTLE SEEN
01:15:28.056 --> 01:15:30.425
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS REALLY BE
01:15:30.492 --> 01:15:33.128
PASSED OVER AND PASSED AWAY IN
01:15:33.195 --> 01:15:34.796
PRISON BEFORE THEIR
01:15:34.863 --> 01:15:36.999
CONSIDERATION COMPLETED BECAUSE
01:15:37.065 --> 01:15:41.036
OF THIS VERY LENGTHY PROCESS. AS
01:15:41.103 --> 01:15:44.940
A MATTER OF FACT, BETWEEN 19.
01:15:45.007 --> 01:15:51.313
BETWEEN 2015 AND 2021 95 PEOPLE
01:15:51.380 --> 01:15:55.183
TO THE COMPASSIONATELY. UM
01:15:55.250 --> 01:15:57.352
PROCESS BY MEDICAL STAFF AND
01:15:57.419 --> 01:15:59.054
DIED BEFORE THEIR CASES THAT
01:15:59.121 --> 01:16:02.057
EVEN DECIDED UPON THIS IS CRUEL
01:16:02.124 --> 01:16:04.593
AND UNACCEPTABLE SYSTEM NEEDS TO
01:16:04.660 --> 01:16:08.096
CHANGE FOR SEVERAL KEY WAYS. WE
01:16:08.163 --> 01:16:10.165
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE
01:16:10.232 --> 01:16:12.401
COMING ILL AND THOSE FUNCTION
01:16:12.467 --> 01:16:15.470
AND COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT CANNOT
01:16:15.537 --> 01:16:17.139
, UM, TAKE CARE OF THEIR
01:16:17.205 --> 01:16:18.907
BASICALLY IN PRESENTED A REAL
01:16:18.974 --> 01:16:22.377
CHANCE AT RELEASE. WE NEED TO
01:16:22.444 --> 01:16:24.780
REMOVE UNNECESSARY IN THIS
01:16:24.846 --> 01:16:28.550
CONSIDERATION PROCESS THAT MAKES
01:16:28.617 --> 01:16:29.918
IT DIFFICULT FOR THIS PROCESS TO
01:16:29.985 --> 01:16:32.354
CONTINUE FROM PEOPLE. WE WANT TO
01:16:32.421 --> 01:16:34.456
MAKE IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE
01:16:34.523 --> 01:16:35.590
UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE A LOT OF
01:16:35.657 --> 01:16:39.328
LIMITATIONS. WE NEED TO MAKE
01:16:39.394 --> 01:16:41.063
SURE THAT THIS PROCESS IS
01:16:41.129 --> 01:16:43.131
TRANSPARENT AND THAT THEY, UM
01:16:43.198 --> 01:16:45.434
IT'S COLLECTED SO THAT WE CAN
01:16:45.500 --> 01:16:46.768
SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC AND
01:16:46.835 --> 01:16:49.304
PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE PROCESS.
01:16:49.371 --> 01:16:51.940
89 60 ACCOMPLISHES THESE THINGS
01:16:52.007 --> 01:16:54.543
. I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON THIS
01:16:54.609 --> 01:16:55.944
BILL BECAUSE COMPASSIONATELY
01:16:56.011 --> 01:16:58.347
CONSCIENCE RIGHT NOW IS BROKEN
01:16:58.413 --> 01:17:00.449
AND IT A BIT STILL ISN'T
01:17:00.515 --> 01:17:01.650
MODERATE STEP FORWARD AND WILL
01:17:01.717 --> 01:17:05.187
HELP US. TO MAKE CHANGE. THANK
01:17:05.253 --> 01:17:06.421
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND
01:17:06.488 --> 01:17:07.022
CONSIDERATION. FROM MYSELF AND
01:17:07.089 --> 01:17:10.025
ALWAYS, THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT
01:17:10.092 --> 01:17:11.093
PRIMARY WITNESS. YOU HAVE TWO
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:16.565
MINUTES. THIS IS DR LEAH RABIN.
01:17:16.631 --> 01:17:18.700
GOOD MORNING. I'M A GERIATRICIAN
01:17:18.767 --> 01:17:20.235
WHO PRACTICES MEDICINE IN THE
01:17:20.302 --> 01:17:21.236
COMMUNITY. I TRAINED AT THE
01:17:21.303 --> 01:17:22.671
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN
01:17:22.738 --> 01:17:23.905
FRANCISCO, IN MY FOCUSES ON
01:17:23.972 --> 01:17:25.173
CARING FOR OLDER PATIENTS WITH
01:17:25.240 --> 01:17:26.041
COMPLEX CHRONIC AND SERIOUS
01:17:26.108 --> 01:17:29.211
ILLNESSES. BEFORE THIS YEAR, I
01:17:29.277 --> 01:17:31.013
WORKED WITH AMEND THAT UCSF WAS
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:32.581
PROVIDED EDUCATION ABOUT
01:17:32.647 --> 01:17:33.382
COMPASSIONATE RELEASE,
01:17:33.448 --> 01:17:34.316
CORRECTIONAL AND COMMUNITY
01:17:34.383 --> 01:17:36.752
HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS. I
01:17:36.818 --> 01:17:38.320
BELIEVE THE CURRENT LAW, WHICH
01:17:38.387 --> 01:17:40.355
REQUIRES A POSITION TO CERTIFY
01:17:40.422 --> 01:17:41.323
THAT THEIR PATIENT HAS A 12
01:17:41.390 --> 01:17:43.291
MONTH PROGNOSIS, VERY
01:17:43.358 --> 01:17:45.694
INSUFFICIENT. PROGNOSTICATION IS
01:17:45.761 --> 01:17:47.829
VERY COMPLEX KNOW THAT MOST
01:17:47.896 --> 01:17:48.730
PHYSICIANS ARE ACTUALLY
01:17:48.797 --> 01:17:50.832
INSUFFICIENTLY TRAINED IN THE
01:17:50.899 --> 01:17:52.334
SCIENCE AND MULTIPLE STUDIES
01:17:52.401 --> 01:17:53.335
SHOW THAT POSITIONS ARE
01:17:53.402 --> 01:17:55.370
SYSTEMATICALLY OVERLY OPTIMISTIC
01:17:55.437 --> 01:17:56.605
ABOUT HOW LONG THEIR PATIENT
01:17:56.671 --> 01:17:59.374
TIME TO LIVE. UNION. THEY THINK
01:17:59.441 --> 01:18:01.243
THEY'RE PATIENT HAD 12 MONTHS TO
01:18:01.309 --> 01:18:02.444
LIVE WHEN, IN FACT, THEY MAY
01:18:02.511 --> 01:18:03.912
HAVE JUST TWO MONTHS. THIS%
01:18:03.979 --> 01:18:05.514
AMOUNT OF TIME IS OBVIOUSLY WAY
01:18:05.580 --> 01:18:07.215
TOO LITTLE TO GET THROUGH THE
01:18:07.282 --> 01:18:07.816
LENGTHY, COMPASSIONATE RELEASE
01:18:07.883 --> 01:18:10.285
EVALUATION PROCESS. IN ADDITION
01:18:10.352 --> 01:18:11.686
, THE 12 MONTH PROGNOSIS
01:18:11.753 --> 01:18:13.422
APPROACH IS BEST SUITED TO A
01:18:13.488 --> 01:18:15.057
MEDICAL ILLNESS THAT HAS A
01:18:15.123 --> 01:18:16.291
PREDICTABLE COURSE, LIKE MANY
01:18:16.358 --> 01:18:18.360
METASTATIC CANCERS. BUT OF
01:18:18.427 --> 01:18:19.828
COURSE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT MANY
01:18:19.895 --> 01:18:21.763
CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE DIE FROM
01:18:21.830 --> 01:18:23.732
CONDITIONS I SEE DAILY LIKE
01:18:23.799 --> 01:18:24.633
HEART FAILURE AND THE SEEMA
01:18:24.699 --> 01:18:27.636
KIDNEY FAILURE, DEMENTIA. THEY
01:18:27.702 --> 01:18:29.671
FOLLOW A LESS PREDICTABLE COURSE
01:18:29.738 --> 01:18:31.173
. AND THESE TERMINAL ILLNESSES
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:32.741
ARE MORE LIKELY TO RESULT IN
01:18:32.808 --> 01:18:34.843
SUDDEN DEATH OR SUDDEN, FAR LESS
01:18:34.910 --> 01:18:35.977
PREDICTABLE, PRECIPITOUS DECLINE
01:18:36.044 --> 01:18:39.281
IN HEALTH. IN BOTH OF THESE
01:18:39.347 --> 01:18:40.549
INSTANCES, THE SCIENTIFIC
01:18:40.615 --> 01:18:42.117
REALITY OF PROGNOSTICATION AND
01:18:42.184 --> 01:18:43.952
THE DYING PROCESS DO NOT MATCH
01:18:44.019 --> 01:18:45.954
THE CURRENT LAW, AND AS A RESULT
01:18:46.021 --> 01:18:47.055
, MANY PATIENTS ARE DYING IN
01:18:47.122 --> 01:18:48.657
PRISON INSTEAD OF IN THE
01:18:48.723 --> 01:18:50.959
COMMUNITY OF THE LAW INTENDED
01:18:51.026 --> 01:18:52.527
FOR THIS REASON THAT FIELD OF
01:18:52.594 --> 01:18:54.563
GERIATRICS AND HOSPITAL MEDICINE
01:18:54.629 --> 01:18:56.832
WE HAVE ADOPTED THE QUOTE END OF
01:18:56.898 --> 01:18:58.700
LIFE TRAJECTORY FRAMEWORK WHEN
01:18:58.767 --> 01:19:01.236
APPROACHING PROGNOSIS THIS
01:19:01.303 --> 01:19:02.838
FRAMEWORK HAS DESCRIBED BY DR
01:19:02.904 --> 01:19:04.306
GILLIAN LYNNE AND HAS BEEN
01:19:04.372 --> 01:19:05.774
INCORPORATED WITH NO PROBLEMS
01:19:05.841 --> 01:19:07.042
INTO THE FEDERAL COMPASSIONATE
01:19:07.109 --> 01:19:08.243
RELEASE LAW BY THE FIRST STEP
01:19:08.310 --> 01:19:10.812
ACT. THIS IS NOT MEAN THE
01:19:10.879 --> 01:19:12.047
PATIENT AUTOMATICALLY GETS OUT
01:19:12.114 --> 01:19:13.148
OF PRISON. IT JUST MEANS THAT
01:19:13.215 --> 01:19:14.549
DOCTORS CAN USE THEIR CLINICAL
01:19:14.616 --> 01:19:16.218
JUDGMENT BASED ON SCIENTIFIC
01:19:16.284 --> 01:19:18.053
EVIDENCE THAT ONCE THEIR PATIENT
01:19:18.120 --> 01:19:20.722
HAS ENTERED A QUOTE, END OF LIKE
01:19:20.789 --> 01:19:22.657
CONDUCT. TORRI THE DOCTOR CAN
01:19:22.724 --> 01:19:24.693
THEN INITIATE THE CORRECTIONS IN
01:19:24.759 --> 01:19:25.760
COURT BASED PROCESS FOR THE
01:19:25.827 --> 01:19:27.095
PATIENT TO BE ASSESSED. FOR
01:19:27.162 --> 01:19:28.263
THEIR SUITABILITY FOR
01:19:28.330 --> 01:19:30.065
COMPASSIONATE RELEASE. FROM MY
01:19:30.132 --> 01:19:32.200
PERSPECTIVE AS A POSITION WHO
01:19:32.267 --> 01:19:33.869
WORKS WITH EXACTLY THESE TYPES
01:19:33.935 --> 01:19:34.603
OF PATIENTS THAT END OF LIFE
01:19:34.669 --> 01:19:36.404
TRAJECTORY IS AN EXTREMELY CLEAR
01:19:36.471 --> 01:19:38.573
MEDICAL COMMUNITY STANDARDS. AN
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:40.008
ENCOUNTER WITH VERY SICK
01:19:40.075 --> 01:19:41.643
PATIENTS WHO MAY HAVE SERIOUS
01:19:41.710 --> 01:19:42.811
ILLNESSES LIKE A LESS
01:19:42.878 --> 01:19:45.213
PARKINSON'S CDS, HEART FAILURE
01:19:45.280 --> 01:19:46.781
OR ADVANCED LUNG DISEASE ARE
01:19:46.848 --> 01:19:48.316
UNLIKELY TO BE REFERRED EARLY
01:19:48.383 --> 01:19:49.718
ENOUGH USING THE CURRENT 12
01:19:49.784 --> 01:19:52.287
MONTHS PREGNANT STANDARD. IT'S
01:19:52.354 --> 01:19:54.189
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE END OF
01:19:54.256 --> 01:19:55.190
LIFE TRAJECTORY LANGUAGE HAS
01:19:55.257 --> 01:19:56.525
BEEN WORKING VERY WELL AND
01:19:56.591 --> 01:19:58.260
WITHOUT CONTROVERSY IN THE
01:19:58.326 --> 01:19:59.060
FEDERAL COMPASSIONATE RELEASE
01:19:59.127 --> 01:20:02.297
SYSTEMS INTO INTRODUCED IN 2019.
01:20:02.364 --> 01:20:04.533
IN MY CLINICAL OPINION OF THE
01:20:04.599 --> 01:20:05.167
GERIATRICIAN, CALIFORNIA SHOULD
01:20:05.233 --> 01:20:06.568
MOVE TO THAT COMMUNITY BASED
01:20:06.635 --> 01:20:08.236
STANDARD OF CARE FOR THESE
01:20:08.303 --> 01:20:09.604
REASONS. I STRONGLY SUPPORT
01:20:09.671 --> 01:20:10.605
IMPROVING THE TERMINAL ILLNESS
01:20:10.672 --> 01:20:12.574
CRITERION AND THE OTHER
01:20:12.641 --> 01:20:13.542
PROVISIONS OF 89 60 AND
01:20:13.608 --> 01:20:18.647
RECOMMENDED PASSAGE. THANK YOU.
01:20:18.713 --> 01:20:20.549
THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL MOVE BACK
01:20:20.615 --> 01:20:22.450
TO ROOM 1, 12 WITNESSES AND
01:20:22.517 --> 01:20:24.085
SUPPORT POLICE STATE YOUR NAME
01:20:24.152 --> 01:20:27.956
AND ORGANIZATION. GOOD MORNING,
01:20:28.023 --> 01:20:30.358
MR SENATOR CHAIRMAN GEORGE
01:20:30.425 --> 01:20:31.793
OSBORNE FOR THE UNION OF
01:20:31.860 --> 01:20:33.128
AMERICAN PHYSICIANS, A DENTIST
01:20:33.195 --> 01:20:34.296
CO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT. THANK
01:20:34.362 --> 01:20:39.935
YOU. NATASHA MINSK. ER, SMART
01:20:40.001 --> 01:20:40.969
JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
01:20:41.036 --> 01:20:45.941
THANK YOU. DENNIS CUEVAS ROMERO
01:20:46.007 --> 01:20:47.008
WITH THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
01:20:47.075 --> 01:20:47.943
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
01:20:48.009 --> 01:20:51.513
YOU. GOOD MORNING. GLENN BECK,
01:20:51.580 --> 01:20:52.614
ACELA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
01:20:52.681 --> 01:20:55.650
RIGHTS IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
01:20:55.717 --> 01:20:56.751
THE AMERICAN WITH JUSTICE GROUP
01:20:56.818 --> 01:21:01.690
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. MR
01:21:01.756 --> 01:21:02.691
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS STANFILL ASATO
01:21:02.757 --> 01:21:04.593
ON BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES
01:21:04.659 --> 01:21:05.126
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
01:21:05.193 --> 01:21:09.364
OFFICE AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. MR
01:21:09.431 --> 01:21:10.765
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TATUM ACLARA
01:21:10.832 --> 01:21:12.167
SAMPSON ADVISORS ON BEHALF OF
01:21:12.234 --> 01:21:13.935
FAMINE SUPPORT, AND I'VE ALSO
01:21:14.002 --> 01:21:15.237
BEEN ASKED BY COLLEAGUES TO
01:21:15.303 --> 01:21:16.538
SHARE THE FOLLOWING
01:21:16.605 --> 01:21:17.172
ORGANIZATIONS. THE FAIR CHANCE
01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:18.340
PROJECTS, FAMILIES UNITED AND L
01:21:18.406 --> 01:21:22.577
WOP. FLYING OVER WALLS. SF BAY
01:21:22.644 --> 01:21:24.813
AREA BLACK AND PINK, INITIATE
01:21:24.879 --> 01:21:26.214
JUSTICE, SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
01:21:26.281 --> 01:21:28.650
DEFENDER REFORM ALLIANCE WHITE
01:21:28.717 --> 01:21:30.085
COATS FOR BLACK LIVES AND
01:21:30.151 --> 01:21:31.253
UNCOMMON LAW ALL IN SUPPORT.
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:34.556
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MELISSA
01:21:34.623 --> 01:21:35.557
COZY WITH CALIFORNIANS RECEIVED
01:21:35.624 --> 01:21:36.825
INJUSTICE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU
01:21:36.891 --> 01:21:38.360
. THANK YOU ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
01:21:38.426 --> 01:21:40.595
IN SUPPORT. SHANNON MODERATOR.
01:21:40.662 --> 01:21:42.597
LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LINES FOR
01:21:42.664 --> 01:21:46.701
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OF 89 60.
01:21:46.768 --> 01:21:48.103
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
01:21:48.169 --> 01:21:50.205
SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN
01:21:50.272 --> 01:21:51.773
ZERO AT THIS TIME, REMEMBER IF
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.209
YOU'VE ALREADY PRESSED ONE THAN
01:21:54.276 --> 01:21:55.377
ZERO? THERE'S NO NEED TO PRESS
01:21:55.443 --> 01:21:57.879
IT AGAIN. AH! FIRST NUMBER IS
01:21:57.946 --> 01:22:02.050
LYING. 88 PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
01:22:02.117 --> 01:22:03.585
MORNING, LESLIE CALDWELL,
01:22:03.652 --> 01:22:05.253
HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
01:22:05.320 --> 01:22:06.321
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
01:22:06.388 --> 01:22:11.626
SUPPORT THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS
01:22:11.693 --> 01:22:14.362
ONE. OH EIGHT. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
01:22:14.429 --> 01:22:15.797
GOOD MORNING. WE'RE BANKING
01:22:15.864 --> 01:22:17.499
GONZALEZ FOR THE NATIONALIST SOC
01:22:17.565 --> 01:22:18.266
ATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS.
01:22:18.333 --> 01:22:19.367
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND SUPPORT.
01:22:19.434 --> 01:22:23.905
THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS LYING.
01:22:23.972 --> 01:22:27.409
40, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
01:22:27.475 --> 01:22:29.577
MORNING KAREN MEMBERS, FORMALLY
01:22:29.644 --> 01:22:31.112
WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF
01:22:31.179 --> 01:22:32.147
STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL
01:22:32.213 --> 01:22:36.918
EMPLOYEES AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
01:22:36.985 --> 01:22:38.153
NEXT LINE IS 55, PLEASE GO
01:22:38.219 --> 01:22:52.300
AHEAD. POLLING IS SELF SUPPORT.
01:22:52.367 --> 01:22:54.002
NEXT IS LINE 95, PLEASE GO
01:22:54.069 --> 01:22:57.272
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, JIM
01:22:57.339 --> 01:22:59.441
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE FRENCH
01:22:59.507 --> 01:23:00.208
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION IN
01:23:00.275 --> 01:23:01.276
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK
01:23:01.343 --> 01:23:09.217
YOU. AND WE HAVE LYING. 1 18.
01:23:09.284 --> 01:23:11.553
GOOD MORNING 10 MEMBERS OF THE
01:23:11.619 --> 01:23:12.487
COMMITTEE AS BANDANAS WITH THE
01:23:12.554 --> 01:23:14.055
ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION AND
01:23:14.122 --> 01:23:15.924
ALSO SOCIAL CHANGE IN STRONG
01:23:15.990 --> 01:23:19.527
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
01:23:19.594 --> 01:23:21.930
MR CHAIR AT THIS TIME WE HAVE
01:23:21.996 --> 01:23:24.199
NOBODY ELSE IN. Q ALRIGHT, THANK
01:23:24.265 --> 01:23:25.567
YOU NOW WILL AFFORD THE
01:23:25.633 --> 01:23:26.968
OPPOSITION THE SAME OPPORTUNITY
01:23:27.035 --> 01:23:29.337
OR THERE'S NO PRIMARY WITNESSES
01:23:29.404 --> 01:23:30.538
AND OPPOSITION LISTED. IS THERE
01:23:30.605 --> 01:23:32.574
ANYONE HERE IN ROOM 1 12 WISHING
01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:33.942
TO TESTIFY? IN OPPOSITION OF 89
01:23:34.008 --> 01:23:37.545
60. SHE AIN'T NO. ONE MODERATOR.
01:23:37.612 --> 01:23:42.684
LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LINES.
01:23:42.751 --> 01:23:44.386
ONCE AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
01:23:44.452 --> 01:23:46.287
MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE PRESS ONE
01:23:46.354 --> 01:23:55.864
AND ZERO. MR CHAIR. CURRENTLY WE
01:23:55.930 --> 01:23:57.699
HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP. OKAY
01:23:57.766 --> 01:23:58.867
GREAT. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO
01:23:58.933 --> 01:24:01.002
THE COMMITTEE AND THE QUESTIONS
01:24:01.069 --> 01:24:01.536
OR CONCERNS BY COMMITTEE
01:24:01.603 --> 01:24:02.337
REGARDING THIS MEASURE, SENATOR
01:24:02.404 --> 01:24:08.176
JOE BULLOCK. I JUST HAVE A
01:24:08.243 --> 01:24:10.979
QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO AS I'M
01:24:11.045 --> 01:24:12.414
READING HERE. THE DIGESTION OF
01:24:12.480 --> 01:24:15.517
THE BILL STATES OF REQUIREMENT
01:24:15.583 --> 01:24:16.751
THE LISA REQUIREMENT THAT A
01:24:16.818 --> 01:24:19.287
PRISONER IS TERMINALLY ILL. WITH
01:24:19.354 --> 01:24:21.356
AN INCURABLE CONDITION CAUSED BY
01:24:21.423 --> 01:24:22.991
AN ILLNESS OR DISEASE THAT WOULD
01:24:23.057 --> 01:24:25.393
PRODUCE DEATH WITHIN 12 MONTHS.
01:24:25.460 --> 01:24:26.861
UM IT ALSO DELETES THE
01:24:26.928 --> 01:24:29.130
REQUIREMENT THAT THE CONDITIONS
01:24:29.197 --> 01:24:30.665
UNDER WHICH THE PRISONER WOULD
01:24:30.732 --> 01:24:31.866
BE RELEASED OR RECEIVED
01:24:31.933 --> 01:24:34.102
TREATMENT DO NOT POSE A THREAT
01:24:34.169 --> 01:24:36.638
TO THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK THAT
01:24:36.704 --> 01:24:38.306
IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I
01:24:38.373 --> 01:24:39.474
PERSONALLY HAVE IS THE FACT THAT
01:24:39.541 --> 01:24:42.010
IT DELETES. IT SAYS HERE THAT IT
01:24:42.076 --> 01:24:44.345
LEADS TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT
01:24:44.412 --> 01:24:45.713
THEY POSE A THREAT TO THE PUBLIC
01:24:45.780 --> 01:24:49.284
SAFETY WHEN CONSIDERING THAT THE
01:24:49.350 --> 01:24:56.424
PATH WAS EXACTLY GUAGE. UM. UM
01:24:56.491 --> 01:24:58.293
BECAUSE DISNEY HAS AN INCURABLE
01:24:58.359 --> 01:24:59.394
DISEASE OR MEDICAL CONDITION
01:24:59.461 --> 01:25:01.663
WITH AN END OF LIFE DIRECTORY.
01:25:01.729 --> 01:25:03.665
HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS? I'M
01:25:03.731 --> 01:25:07.702
SORRY. GO AHEAD. JUST PLEASE. SO
01:25:07.769 --> 01:25:09.971
HOW WOULD YOU? UM HOW WOULD YOU
01:25:10.038 --> 01:25:12.574
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND THE
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:14.309
GENERAL PUBLIC THAT IT WOULD
01:25:14.375 --> 01:25:15.577
REQUIRE IT WOULD REMOVE THAT
01:25:15.643 --> 01:25:32.327
THREAT. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. WHAT
01:25:32.393 --> 01:25:33.828
WE DO IS IN TERMS OF STREAMLINED
01:25:33.895 --> 01:25:35.763
ITS PROCESS THAT THREAT IN TERMS
01:25:35.830 --> 01:25:40.335
OF THE TERMINALLY ALL PERSON
01:25:40.401 --> 01:25:41.936
DOESN'T CHANGE. THE PERSON STILL
01:25:42.003 --> 01:25:43.905
HAS TO BE TERMINALLY ILL AND AS
01:25:43.972 --> 01:25:46.875
THE DOCTOR TESTIFIED, UM, THESE
01:25:46.941 --> 01:25:49.043
PEOPLE IT'S STILL A VERY IT'S A
01:25:49.110 --> 01:25:50.812
VERY ONE. IT'S A VERY, VERY
01:25:50.879 --> 01:25:51.980
SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO IN
01:25:52.046 --> 01:25:53.147
TERMS OF TERMINALLY ILL. THAT
01:25:53.214 --> 01:25:56.684
DEFINITION REMAINS. AND THE END
01:25:56.751 --> 01:25:59.187
OF THE DAY IS THE COURTS ALSO
01:25:59.254 --> 01:26:00.088
HAVE TO MAKE THAT ULTIMATE
01:26:00.154 --> 01:26:03.224
DETERMINATION OF THAT THREAT.
01:26:03.291 --> 01:26:06.060
AGAIN AS I STATED IN TERMS OF A
01:26:06.127 --> 01:26:08.429
NUMBER OF YEARS. THESE ARE VERY,
01:26:08.496 --> 01:26:09.864
VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT
01:26:09.931 --> 01:26:11.833
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FOR THIS
01:26:11.900 --> 01:26:13.935
VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO
01:26:14.002 --> 01:26:16.204
MAKE IT A MORE STREAMLINED
01:26:16.271 --> 01:26:18.072
PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN THEY
01:26:18.139 --> 01:26:19.807
HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED.
01:26:19.874 --> 01:26:21.075
THEY ARE TERMINALLY ILL.
01:26:21.142 --> 01:26:22.544
BASICALLY THEY'RE DYING, AND
01:26:22.610 --> 01:26:26.581
WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW THEM. UM
01:26:26.648 --> 01:26:28.249
TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE BEEN
01:26:28.316 --> 01:26:31.252
DEEMED AND ALLOWED TO, BY THE BY
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:33.621
THE DEPARTMENT AND BY THE COURT
01:26:33.688 --> 01:26:34.923
ALLOWED THEM TO BE ABLE TO SPEND
01:26:34.989 --> 01:26:36.124
THEIR LAST FEW DAYS OUTSIDE OF
01:26:36.190 --> 01:26:40.862
THE SYSTEM. OKAY, SO FOR
01:26:40.929 --> 01:26:47.669
CLARIFICATION PURPOSES HERE, UM. AS I READ IT, IT DOESN'T JUST
01:26:47.735 --> 01:26:49.571
SAY TERMINALLY ILL. IT SAYS THAT
01:26:49.637 --> 01:27:03.885
THERE IS A TRAJECTORY. WHICH IS. SAYS OR MEDICAL CONDITION WITH
01:27:03.952 --> 01:27:06.721
AN END OF LIFE TRAJECTORY, WHICH
01:27:06.788 --> 01:27:07.822
COULD BE NOT THE LAST FEW DAYS,
01:27:07.889 --> 01:27:10.258
BUT IT COULD TECHNICALLY BE
01:27:10.325 --> 01:27:12.193
WITHIN 12 MONTHS OR SO MINUTES.
01:27:12.260 --> 01:27:15.063
THERE'S NO AS MENTIONED IN AND
01:27:15.129 --> 01:27:17.432
PART OF THE MY NOTES HERE. UM
01:27:17.498 --> 01:27:18.433
IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR
01:27:18.499 --> 01:27:20.735
DOCORS TO SAY. OKAY THIS IS HOW
01:27:20.802 --> 01:27:21.269
MUCH LONGER HAVE THEY CAN
01:27:21.336 --> 01:27:22.804
ESTIMATE. BUT THERE'S TIMES WHEN
01:27:22.870 --> 01:27:26.040
PEOPLE LIVE LESS THAN WHAT THE
01:27:26.107 --> 01:27:27.976
MEDICAL DOCTORS ESTIMATE OR THEY
01:27:28.042 --> 01:27:30.378
COULD LIVE LONGER. I MEAN, IT'S
01:27:30.445 --> 01:27:32.814
YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, YOU
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:34.415
KIND OF GUESSTIMATE. WE HAVE
01:27:34.482 --> 01:27:36.017
ALWAYS ASKED DOCTORS TO GIVE US
01:27:36.084 --> 01:27:38.853
A GUESSTIMATE ON. YOU KNOW THE
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:40.488
LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR SOMEONE WHEN
01:27:40.555 --> 01:27:44.659
THEY HAVE A CERTAIN SENATOR. ARE
01:27:44.726 --> 01:27:45.793
YOU CONCERNED THAT 500 PEOPLE
01:27:45.860 --> 01:27:47.228
WON'T DIE SOONER IS THAT I'M
01:27:47.295 --> 01:27:49.297
SORRY. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE
01:27:49.364 --> 01:27:51.466
TALKING ABOUT 500 PEOPLE OVER A
01:27:51.532 --> 01:27:52.834
FEW YEARS. ARE YOU CONCERNED?
01:27:52.900 --> 01:27:55.303
THEY WON'T DIE SOON ENOUGH. NO
01:27:55.370 --> 01:27:56.037
JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE
01:27:56.104 --> 01:27:58.106
CONCERN, OR IS IT THAT I HAVE IS
01:27:58.172 --> 01:28:02.110
THAT 300 PEOPLE 300 PEOPLE. I'M
01:28:02.176 --> 01:28:04.145
SORRY. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE
01:28:04.212 --> 01:28:04.979
NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT I'M
01:28:05.046 --> 01:28:06.414
CONCERNED ABOUT. IT'S WHETHER OR
01:28:06.481 --> 01:28:08.583
NOT THEY POSE A THREAT TO THE
01:28:08.650 --> 01:28:10.218
PUBLIC. IT COULD BE ONE PERSON.
01:28:10.284 --> 01:28:11.819
IT COULD BE 100. PEOPLE OR 300
01:28:11.886 --> 01:28:13.221
ISN'T THE NUMBER DOESN'T MATTER.
01:28:13.287 --> 01:28:14.122
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THAT
01:28:14.188 --> 01:28:16.724
PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL. LET THE
01:28:16.791 --> 01:28:17.358
DOCTOR TALK ABOUT TERMITES. ARE
01:28:17.425 --> 01:28:20.328
YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE ARE YOU
01:28:20.395 --> 01:28:21.629
CONCERNED? THEY DON'T HAVE A
01:28:21.696 --> 01:28:24.165
TERMINALLY ILL. A PROPER
01:28:24.232 --> 01:28:26.401
DIAGNOSIS, MEANING THAT THAT
01:28:26.467 --> 01:28:28.136
THEY LET ME LET ME LET ME SORT
01:28:28.202 --> 01:28:30.238
OF. THEY'RE BEDRIDDEN, BUT MAYBE
01:28:30.304 --> 01:28:32.273
THEY LIVE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.
01:28:32.340 --> 01:28:34.208
I THINK THAT THEY LIVE IN THEIR
01:28:34.275 --> 01:28:36.778
BED FOR TWO YEARS. IS THAT YOUR
01:28:36.844 --> 01:28:38.413
CONCERN? NO. THE CONCERN IS
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:39.981
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE REMOVING
01:28:40.048 --> 01:28:42.617
FROM THE LANGUAGE THAT THE
01:28:42.684 --> 01:28:43.685
REQUIREMENT THAT THEY POSE A
01:28:43.751 --> 01:28:47.288
THREAT. IS BEING REMOVED FROM
01:28:47.355 --> 01:28:48.356
THE LANGUAGE FROM THE
01:28:48.423 --> 01:28:49.791
CONSIDERATION OF WHEN THEY'RE
01:28:49.857 --> 01:28:51.659
BEING RELEASED. I THINK THAT'S
01:28:51.726 --> 01:28:53.628
THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE LET THE
01:28:53.695 --> 01:28:57.799
DOCTOR DR ROAR. VIC ANSWERED
01:28:57.865 --> 01:28:58.866
THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THEY'RE
01:28:58.933 --> 01:29:00.134
THE ONES THAT MAKING
01:29:00.201 --> 01:29:00.668
DETERMINATION WHETHER THAT
01:29:00.735 --> 01:29:02.370
PERSON'S TERMINALLY ILL USUALLY
01:29:02.437 --> 01:29:05.707
AGAIN IF PEOPLE WHO ARE
01:29:05.773 --> 01:29:06.874
TERMINALLY ILL. THEY NEED
01:29:06.941 --> 01:29:08.543
ASSISTANCE TO GO TO THE
01:29:08.609 --> 01:29:09.911
RESTROOM. I GUESS I DON'T REALLY
01:29:09.977 --> 01:29:12.413
FEAR PEOPLE WHO NEED ASSISTANCE
01:29:12.480 --> 01:29:14.582
GOING TO THE RESTROOM OR NEED,
01:29:14.649 --> 01:29:16.150
YOU KNOW, CHARACTER, 24 7, BUT
01:29:16.217 --> 01:29:18.519
ALL THE DARK WHICH IS WHICH IS
01:29:18.586 --> 01:29:19.187
WHY I LET ME LET ME CLARIFY,
01:29:19.253 --> 01:29:21.189
THEN WHAT? I'M TRYING TO STATE
01:29:21.255 --> 01:29:23.825
CONCERN. IS THE FACT THAT WITHIN
01:29:23.891 --> 01:29:27.195
THE SPELL YOU HAVE, UM,
01:29:27.261 --> 01:29:28.329
TERMINALLY ILL, BUT YOU ALSO
01:29:28.396 --> 01:29:31.766
HAVE THE TRAJECTORY. UM SO IT'S
01:29:31.833 --> 01:29:33.801
NOT JUST TERMINALLY ILL THAT YOU
01:29:33.868 --> 01:29:35.703
HAVE INCLUDED IN THIS BILL. YOU
01:29:35.770 --> 01:29:37.772
HAVE ONE THAT HAS, UM AS A
01:29:37.839 --> 01:29:39.307
LANGUAGE SAYS, LET ME SEE IF I
01:29:39.373 --> 01:29:41.976
HAD THE EXACT MY UNDERSTANDING
01:29:42.043 --> 01:29:43.978
TRAJECTORY AND THEN YOU REMOVE
01:29:44.045 --> 01:29:45.113
THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY POSE A
01:29:45.179 --> 01:29:48.616
THREAT. THAT'S THAT'S THE
01:29:48.683 --> 01:29:50.118
CONCERN THAT I HAVE TOTALLY
01:29:50.184 --> 01:29:51.953
UNDERSTAND KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO
01:29:52.019 --> 01:29:53.121
WHY YOU WOULD REMOVE THAT
01:29:53.187 --> 01:29:55.389
LANGUAGES THAT THEY WOULD POSE A
01:29:55.456 --> 01:29:56.758
THREAT. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS
01:29:56.824 --> 01:29:58.493
REMOVED. THE ONLY THING MY
01:29:58.559 --> 01:29:59.026
UNDERSTANDING WAS THE ONLY
01:29:59.093 --> 01:30:01.429
EXPANDING OF MEDICAL ELIGIBILITY
01:30:01.496 --> 01:30:03.297
WERE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COGNITIVE
01:30:03.364 --> 01:30:04.832
IMPAIRMENT. PEOPLE WHO LIKE WHO
01:30:04.899 --> 01:30:06.868
HAVE DEMENTIA, SO I UNDERSTAND.
01:30:06.934 --> 01:30:08.436
MAYBE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A
01:30:08.503 --> 01:30:10.838
PARTICULAR PART OF THE SECTION.
01:30:10.905 --> 01:30:12.340
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF
01:30:12.406 --> 01:30:14.008
EXPANSION. I THINK THE QUESTION
01:30:14.075 --> 01:30:15.209
IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING
01:30:15.276 --> 01:30:18.613
THIS BROAD EXPANSION, RIGHT IS
01:30:18.679 --> 01:30:20.414
THAT IS THAT THE CROOKS JUST
01:30:20.481 --> 01:30:21.716
REMOVING THE LANGUAGE. LET'S
01:30:21.783 --> 01:30:23.584
JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR
01:30:23.651 --> 01:30:25.286
CONCERN IS. CONCERN IS THAT I AM
01:30:25.353 --> 01:30:26.087
I DOING IT MIGHT DOING AN
01:30:26.154 --> 01:30:27.221
EXPANSION. THAT'S WHAT YOUR
01:30:27.288 --> 01:30:29.257
CONCERNS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE
01:30:29.323 --> 01:30:31.325
WAY THE WAY THE BILLS HAS
01:30:31.392 --> 01:30:31.926
WRITTEN THE ENTIRE BILL, NOT
01:30:31.993 --> 01:30:34.395
JUST A PIECE OF IT, BUT THE WAY
01:30:34.462 --> 01:30:35.396
THEY DID. THE ENTIRE BILLS WERE
01:30:35.463 --> 01:30:37.865
IN THE ONLY PART THAT WORKS
01:30:37.932 --> 01:30:39.100
PENDING TO IN TERMS OF EXPANDED
01:30:39.167 --> 01:30:40.568
ELIGIBILITY. RIGHT. WHO ELSE ARE
01:30:40.635 --> 01:30:41.169
WE, INCLUDING ARE PEOPLE WHO
01:30:41.235 --> 01:30:42.036
HAVE COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT.
01:30:42.103 --> 01:30:45.940
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEMENTIA. SO IF
01:30:46.007 --> 01:30:47.341
YOU'RE OKAY WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE
01:30:47.408 --> 01:30:49.243
DEMENTIA BEING ON THE LIST,
01:30:49.310 --> 01:30:51.813
PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THEN THAT'S
01:30:51.879 --> 01:30:53.714
THAT'S WHO WE'RE EXPANDING IT
01:30:53.781 --> 01:30:55.016
TO. OKAY BUT EVEN AS SOMEONE WHO
01:30:55.082 --> 01:30:56.350
HAD A GRANDMOTHER WHO SUFFERED
01:30:56.417 --> 01:30:58.286
ALZHEIMER'S AND DEMENTIA THEY
01:30:58.352 --> 01:31:00.421
HAVE MOMENTS OF LUCIDITY. THEY
01:31:00.488 --> 01:31:02.423
MEAN IT GOES IN AND OUT SO AND
01:31:02.490 --> 01:31:03.958
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT STAGES OF
01:31:04.025 --> 01:31:05.726
DEMENTIA. YOU'RE SAYING YOU
01:31:05.793 --> 01:31:07.094
WOULD OBJECT TO THAT? I MEAN,
01:31:07.161 --> 01:31:09.530
IT'S OKAY IF YOU DO. I'M JUST
01:31:09.597 --> 01:31:10.965
TRYING JUST NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT
01:31:11.032 --> 01:31:12.600
I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING THAT I'M
01:31:12.667 --> 01:31:14.168
OPPOSED OR THE CONCERN THAT I
01:31:14.235 --> 01:31:16.737
HAVE WOULD BE FOR ANY PUBLIC
01:31:16.804 --> 01:31:17.905
MEMBER TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT
01:31:17.972 --> 01:31:21.809
YOU'RE REMOVING THE NOTION OF
01:31:21.876 --> 01:31:23.945
THAT THEY POSE A THREAT. I DON'T
01:31:24.011 --> 01:31:25.079
THINK THAT'S WHAT MOVEMENT
01:31:25.146 --> 01:31:27.281
THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN DIFFER. YOU
01:31:27.348 --> 01:31:29.217
KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY YOU GET YOU
01:31:29.283 --> 01:31:29.951
GET THREE LAWYERS IN A ROOM.
01:31:30.017 --> 01:31:32.053
YOU'RE GONNA GET SIX OPINIONS SO
01:31:32.119 --> 01:31:32.587
TOTALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
01:31:32.653 --> 01:31:34.822
PERSPECTIVE IN YOUR OPINION.
01:31:34.889 --> 01:31:35.990
JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT THE
01:31:36.057 --> 01:31:40.394
FACTS ARE. AH IN CALIFORNIA.
01:31:40.461 --> 01:31:40.995
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OTHER
01:31:41.062 --> 01:31:42.396
STATES IN CALIFORNIA. WE HAD 300
01:31:42.463 --> 01:31:44.365
PEOPLE WHO QUALIFIED OVER A SIX
01:31:44.432 --> 01:31:47.969
YEAR PERIOD. ABOUT 50 PEOPLE. 50
01:31:48.035 --> 01:31:49.203
PEOPLE A YEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
01:31:49.270 --> 01:31:51.539
TALKING ABOUT. SO ANYWAYS, WITH
01:31:51.606 --> 01:31:56.410
THAT, UM PROFESSOR. ANY
01:31:56.477 --> 01:31:58.179
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
01:31:58.246 --> 01:32:01.816
BY COLLEGE SENATOR KAMLAGER. NO
01:32:01.883 --> 01:32:03.484
BUT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
01:32:03.551 --> 01:32:05.519
I'LL MOVE THE BILL. THIS IS THE
01:32:05.586 --> 01:32:08.422
APPROPRIATE TIME. MOVE ON. ALL
01:32:08.489 --> 01:32:11.259
RIGHT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
01:32:11.325 --> 01:32:13.094
THIS MEASURE. I THINK IT'S A
01:32:13.160 --> 01:32:14.295
COMMON SENSE MEASURES FAR TOO
01:32:14.362 --> 01:32:18.232
OFTEN. WE CONTINUE TO PENALIZE
01:32:18.299 --> 01:32:19.500
FOLKS WHO ARE ON THEIR LAST LEG
01:32:19.567 --> 01:32:24.906
ON THERE. AH! FIGHTING TO
01:32:24.972 --> 01:32:27.208
SURVIVE TO STAY ALIVE AND WE
01:32:27.275 --> 01:32:28.976
KEEP THEM INCARCERATED UNTIL
01:32:29.043 --> 01:32:30.378
THEY DIED. MANY TIMES. FAMILIES
01:32:30.444 --> 01:32:32.313
ARE NOT EVEN NOTIFIED AFTER
01:32:32.380 --> 01:32:34.115
INDIVIDUALS HAVE DIED FOR WEEKS
01:32:34.181 --> 01:32:36.217
IN PRISON, AND I THINK THIS IS A
01:32:36.284 --> 01:32:37.418
COMMON SENSE MEASURE. I
01:32:37.485 --> 01:32:39.553
UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION THAT MY
01:32:39.620 --> 01:32:41.422
COLLEAGUE IS ASKING AS IT
01:32:41.489 --> 01:32:44.091
RELATES TO AH, THREAT TO PUBLIC
01:32:44.158 --> 01:32:45.459
BUT AS BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME,
01:32:45.526 --> 01:32:48.562
MANY OF THESE FOLKS WITH
01:32:48.629 --> 01:32:51.832
TERMINAL ILLNESSES ARE NO THREAT
01:32:51.899 --> 01:32:53.868
TO THEMSELVES. A LOT OF LONG TO
01:32:53.935 --> 01:32:57.271
ANYONE ELSE SO I THINK UM WE'RE
01:32:57.338 --> 01:32:59.006
SAFE AND GOING IN THAT DIRECTION
01:32:59.073 --> 01:33:01.175
, IF IN FACT THAT IS REMOVED
01:33:01.242 --> 01:33:03.210
BECAUSE AGAIN, A PERSON WHO'S ON
01:33:03.277 --> 01:33:04.445
THEIR LAST LEG. THE LAST THING
01:33:04.512 --> 01:33:06.681
THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO IS
01:33:06.747 --> 01:33:08.983
BE HARM TO SOMEONE ELSE, SO I
01:33:09.050 --> 01:33:10.084
THINK IT'S A COMMON SENSE
01:33:10.151 --> 01:33:11.953
REQUEST, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE
01:33:12.019 --> 01:33:14.255
CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED. UM WE
01:33:14.322 --> 01:33:15.856
HAVE A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION
01:33:15.923 --> 01:33:21.329
AND IS IT TO PASS AS AMENDED? D<c.cyan></c>
01:33:21.395 --> 01:33:24.332
PASS TO APPROACH. UM COUNCIL,
01:33:24.398 --> 01:33:26.367
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON A B 9
01:33:26.434 --> 01:33:31.205
60. A B 89 60 BRADFORD BRADFORD
01:33:31.272 --> 01:33:33.474
THO BOGUE. NO JOB. OH NO,
01:33:33.541 --> 01:33:35.109
KAMLAGER. I AM LOGGER. I SKINNER
01:33:35.176 --> 01:33:39.447
WIENER. MEASURE HAS TWO VOTES
01:33:39.513 --> 01:33:41.349
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN.
01:33:41.415 --> 01:33:42.416
PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS TO ADD ON.
01:33:42.483 --> 01:33:44.085
THANK YOU, SENATOR. THANK YOU.
01:33:44.151 --> 01:33:45.753
NEXT UP. WE HAVE. I THINK MR
01:33:45.820 --> 01:33:55.830
LEVIN AND 12 27. AND 1917. GOOD
01:33:55.896 --> 01:33:56.964
MORNING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
01:33:57.031 --> 01:33:59.333
MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. SENATORS.
01:33:59.400 --> 01:34:00.835
GUN SALES HAVE INCREASED
01:34:00.901 --> 01:34:02.069
DRAMATICALLY SINCE THE BEGINNING
01:34:02.136 --> 01:34:04.472
OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC IN MAY
01:34:04.538 --> 01:34:05.373
OF THIS YEAR, THE CENTERS FOR
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:06.807
DISEASE CONTROL REPORTED THAT
01:34:06.874 --> 01:34:08.442
THE FIREARM HOMICIDE RATE
01:34:08.509 --> 01:34:11.846
INCREASED BY 35% IN 2020. AND
01:34:11.912 --> 01:34:14.882
THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2022.
01:34:14.949 --> 01:34:16.017
THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 240
01:34:16.083 --> 01:34:17.451
MASS SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED
01:34:17.518 --> 01:34:19.320
STATES. CALIFORNIA IS NOT IMMUNE
01:34:19.387 --> 01:34:21.255
TO THIS VIOLENCE, ACCORDING TO
01:34:21.322 --> 01:34:24.191
THE GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE. 2022
01:34:24.258 --> 01:34:26.327
COULD SEE ONE OF THE HIGHEST
01:34:26.394 --> 01:34:27.595
YEARLY RATES OF GUN RELATED
01:34:27.661 --> 01:34:29.296
DEATHS IN THE STATE'S HISTORY.
01:34:29.363 --> 01:34:31.699
EVEN LICENSED SALES OF FIREARMS
01:34:31.766 --> 01:34:34.168
, AMMUNITION AND PRECURSOR PARTS
01:34:34.235 --> 01:34:35.503
CONTRIBUTE TO GUN VIOLENCE
01:34:35.569 --> 01:34:36.971
THROUGH STRAW PURCHASES,
01:34:37.038 --> 01:34:39.240
TRAFFICKING TO ILLICIT MARKETS,
01:34:39.306 --> 01:34:42.977
THEFT OR OTHER NEGLIGENT LOSSES
01:34:43.044 --> 01:34:44.178
. THE COST OF GUNS NOT ONLY
01:34:44.245 --> 01:34:46.414
INCLUDES IN A MEASURABLE TOLL ON
01:34:46.480 --> 01:34:48.949
HUMAN LIFE. GUN VIOLENCE CREATES
01:34:49.016 --> 01:34:51.318
ITS OWN ECONOMIC BURDENS AS WELL
01:34:51.385 --> 01:34:52.553
. CURRENTLY TAXPAYERS ARE
01:34:52.620 --> 01:34:53.387
EFFECTIVELY SUBSIDIZING THE
01:34:53.454 --> 01:34:57.491
COST. OF GUN VIOLENCE, BE IT
01:34:57.558 --> 01:34:59.260
THROUGH THE USE OF LAW
01:34:59.326 --> 01:35:00.394
ENFORCEMENT, COURT EXPENSES,
01:35:00.461 --> 01:35:02.396
MEDICAL CARE AND OTHER RESOURCES
01:35:02.463 --> 01:35:06.700
THAT GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTS. 12 27
01:35:06.767 --> 01:35:08.969
INITIATES AN IMPORTANT LONG TERM
01:35:09.036 --> 01:35:09.970
INVESTMENT IN REDUCING THESE
01:35:10.037 --> 01:35:13.441
HARMS ACROSS CALIFORNIA. 12 27
01:35:13.507 --> 01:35:16.444
ESTABLISHES A MODEST EXCISE TAX
01:35:16.510 --> 01:35:19.246
10% FOR THE SALE OF HANDGUNS AND
01:35:19.313 --> 01:35:20.948
11% FOR THE SALE OF LONG GUNS
01:35:21.015 --> 01:35:23.350
AND AMMUNITION, WHICH WILL APPLY
01:35:23.417 --> 01:35:25.453
AT THE RETAIL LEVEL, NOT ON
01:35:25.519 --> 01:35:27.088
PURCHASERS. THIS TAX WILL GO
01:35:27.154 --> 01:35:28.089
TOWARD THE GUN VIOLENCE
01:35:28.155 --> 01:35:29.990
PREVENTION, HEALING AND RECOVERY
01:35:30.057 --> 01:35:32.626
FUND, WHICH WILL BE USED FOR GUN
01:35:32.693 --> 01:35:33.727
VIOLENCE, EDUCATION RESEARCH AND
01:35:33.794 --> 01:35:35.463
PREVENTION PROGRAMS. HALF OF THE
01:35:35.529 --> 01:35:36.831
FUND WILL BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS
01:35:36.897 --> 01:35:38.332
THE STATE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION
01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:39.900
AND PREVENTION GRANT PROGRAM.
01:35:39.967 --> 01:35:41.502
CALVET AND HALF WILL BE
01:35:41.569 --> 01:35:42.970
APPROPRIATED BY THE LEGISLATURE
01:35:43.037 --> 01:35:44.004
TOWARD GUN VIOLENCE, PREVENTION
01:35:44.071 --> 01:35:45.072
PROGRAMS AND RESEARCH BASED ON
01:35:45.139 --> 01:35:47.708
NEED. THIS BILL MIRRORS A
01:35:47.775 --> 01:35:49.510
LONGSTANDING FEDERAL EXCISE TAX
01:35:49.577 --> 01:35:50.978
ON FIREARM AND AMMUNITION
01:35:51.045 --> 01:35:53.080
PRODUCERS AND ENSURES SUSTAINED
01:35:53.147 --> 01:35:54.615
REVENUE FOR PROGRAMS THAT
01:35:54.682 --> 01:35:56.717
REMEDIATED DEVASTATING EFFECTS.
01:35:56.784 --> 01:35:58.252
THESE PRODUCTS CAUSE FAMILIES
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:01.222
AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR STATE
01:36:01.288 --> 01:36:02.723
. AS WE SEE MORE AND MORE
01:36:02.790 --> 01:36:04.225
INCIDENTS OF GUN VIOLENCE. WE
01:36:04.291 --> 01:36:05.192
MUST KNOW THAT THERE THAT WE ARE
01:36:05.259 --> 01:36:08.529
NEITHER HELPLESS NOR HOPELESS.
01:36:08.596 --> 01:36:10.798
TO END THE CARNAGE OCCURRING
01:36:10.865 --> 01:36:12.733
ACROSS CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS OUR
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:16.604
pAND SUPPORT OUR REPRESENTATIVES
01:36:16.670 --> 01:36:18.239
FROM GIFFORDS AND EVERY TOWN FOR
01:36:18.305 --> 01:36:23.711
GUN SAFETY. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE
01:36:23.777 --> 01:36:26.213
JAMIE MINOR AND NICOLE KIDMAN'S
01:36:26.280 --> 01:36:27.348
SAYS YOUR PRIMARY WITNESS. YOU
01:36:27.414 --> 01:36:29.450
HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH. GOOD
01:36:29.517 --> 01:36:30.584
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
01:36:30.651 --> 01:36:32.286
NICOLE KIDMAN IS ON BEHALF OF
01:36:32.353 --> 01:36:33.921
EVERY TIME FOR GUN SAFETY AND
01:36:33.988 --> 01:36:36.123
SUPPORT OF A B 12 27. AS WE ALL
01:36:36.190 --> 01:36:37.992
KNOW, GUN VIOLENCE IS A PUBLIC
01:36:38.058 --> 01:36:39.560
HEALTH SAFETY AND EQUITY CRISIS
01:36:39.627 --> 01:36:41.362
AMID A DEVASTATING PANDEMIC AND
01:36:41.428 --> 01:36:42.997
RECORD SETTING GUN SALES IN 2020
01:36:43.063 --> 01:36:46.200
AND 2021. COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE
01:36:46.267 --> 01:36:47.535
NATION HAVE FACED AN ALARMING
01:36:47.601 --> 01:36:49.203
SPIKE IN SHOOTINGS, HOMICIDES
01:36:49.270 --> 01:36:51.071
AND RELATED TRAUMAS. CALIFORNIA
01:36:51.138 --> 01:36:53.841
SUFFERED A 46% INCREASE IN FATAL
01:36:53.908 --> 01:36:56.243
SHOOTINGS AFTER THE START OF THE
01:36:56.310 --> 01:36:57.178
PANDEMIC COMPARED TO THE SAME
01:36:57.244 --> 01:36:58.913
PERIOD IN 2019 AND A 69%
01:36:58.979 --> 01:36:59.980
INCREASE IN THE LAST THREE
01:37:00.047 --> 01:37:04.318
MONTHS OF 2020. IN JANUARY. 2021
01:37:04.385 --> 01:37:05.486
GUN SALES WERE 80% HIGHER
01:37:05.553 --> 01:37:08.322
COMPARED TO THE YEAR BEFORE.
01:37:08.389 --> 01:37:10.024
THIS GUN VIOLENCE HAS IMPOSED AN
01:37:10.090 --> 01:37:11.525
ENORMOUSLY UNEQUAL TOLL AND
01:37:11.592 --> 01:37:13.027
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WERE OVER.
01:37:13.093 --> 01:37:15.829
84% OF YOUTH HOMICIDE VICTIMS
01:37:15.896 --> 01:37:17.531
ARE BLACK OR LATIN X AND WE'RE
01:37:17.598 --> 01:37:19.400
GUN VIOLENCE WAS ALREADY THE
01:37:19.466 --> 01:37:20.568
LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR YOUNG
01:37:20.634 --> 01:37:23.204
BLACK MEN AND BOYS. 50% OF THE
01:37:23.270 --> 01:37:25.539
FUNDS RAISED BY A B 2012 27
01:37:25.606 --> 01:37:27.741
WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO CALVET,
01:37:27.808 --> 01:37:29.210
WHICH PROVIDES MATCHING GRANTS
01:37:29.276 --> 01:37:30.144
TO COMMUNITY BASED VIOLENCE.
01:37:30.211 --> 01:37:31.712
INTERVENTION EFFORTS IN
01:37:31.779 --> 01:37:32.846
COMMUNITIES MOST IMPACTED BY
01:37:32.913 --> 01:37:33.847
GROUP RELATED SHOOTINGS AND
01:37:33.914 --> 01:37:36.350
HOMICIDES. THE CALVERT PROGRAM
01:37:36.417 --> 01:37:37.885
HAS MADE A LIFESAVING DIFFERENCE
01:37:37.952 --> 01:37:39.320
IN MANY COMMUNITIES, BECOMING A
01:37:39.386 --> 01:37:40.988
NATIONAL MODEL CITIES THAT
01:37:41.055 --> 01:37:43.357
RECEIVED A GRANT IN 2018 SAW
01:37:43.424 --> 01:37:44.892
HOMICIDES DECREASED AT NEARLY
01:37:44.959 --> 01:37:46.460
THREE TIMES THE RATE OF
01:37:46.527 --> 01:37:47.461
JURISDICTIONS THAT DID NOT
01:37:47.528 --> 01:37:49.630
RECEIVE CALVET SUPPORT. PRIOR TO
01:37:49.697 --> 01:37:50.531
THE MORE RECENT SPIKES IN
01:37:50.598 --> 01:37:51.799
VIOLENCE. THESE EFFORTS HELPED
01:37:51.865 --> 01:37:53.200
CALIFORNIA MAKE HISTORIC
01:37:53.267 --> 01:37:54.802
PROGRESS AGAINST VIOLENCE IN
01:37:54.868 --> 01:37:56.637
2019, CALIFORNIA ACHIEVED THE
01:37:56.704 --> 01:37:58.272
LOWEST GUN HOMICIDE RATE FOR 15
01:37:58.339 --> 01:38:01.709
TO 24 YEAR OLD SINCE 1970.
01:38:01.775 --> 01:38:02.910
CALIFORNIA'S INVESTMENT IN
01:38:02.977 --> 01:38:04.445
VIOLENCE PREVENTION HAS NOT YET
01:38:04.511 --> 01:38:06.213
MATCHED THE ENORMITY OF THE
01:38:06.280 --> 01:38:08.215
CHALLENGE OUR COMMUNITY SPACE
01:38:08.282 --> 01:38:10.351
DESPITE RESEARCH THAT SHOWED A
01:38:10.417 --> 01:38:12.319
VICTIM IS 50% LESS LIKELY TO BE
01:38:12.386 --> 01:38:13.854
VIOLENTLY REINJURED IF THEY
01:38:13.921 --> 01:38:15.222
RECEIVE INTERVENTION SERVICES
01:38:15.289 --> 01:38:17.224
LIKE THOSE THAT CALVIN SUPPORTS
01:38:17.291 --> 01:38:19.059
ONLY 3% OF FIREARM ASSAULT
01:38:19.126 --> 01:38:19.994
PATIENTS RECEIVED THOSE SERVICES
01:38:20.060 --> 01:38:22.696
IN CALIFORNIA TODAY. IN OTHER
01:38:22.763 --> 01:38:24.198
WORDS, CALIFORNIA NEEDS MORE
01:38:24.265 --> 01:38:26.400
RESOURCES TO STOP THE PATTERN OF
01:38:26.467 --> 01:38:27.835
VIOLENCE. AND WE BELIEVE A B 12
01:38:27.901 --> 01:38:29.536
27 WOULD PROVIDE A REASONABLE
01:38:29.603 --> 01:38:30.437
AND TARGETED MEANS OF SECURING
01:38:30.504 --> 01:38:31.472
SUSTAINED REVENUE FOR THESE
01:38:31.538 --> 01:38:33.941
PURPOSES. AND WE ASK FOR YOUR
01:38:34.008 --> 01:38:37.478
SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU. YOU.
01:38:37.544 --> 01:38:39.213
NEXT WE HAVE JAMIE MINOR ON THE
01:38:39.280 --> 01:38:44.218
PHONE LINE. THIS IS ACTUALLY ARI
01:38:44.285 --> 01:38:45.085
FREILICH AND STATE POLICY
01:38:45.152 --> 01:38:47.321
DIRECTOR FOR GIFFORDS. UM AND I
01:38:47.388 --> 01:38:48.989
WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS.
01:38:49.056 --> 01:38:51.959
NICOLE SHARED AND EMPHASIZE THAT
01:38:52.026 --> 01:38:53.327
TO PROMOTE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
01:38:53.394 --> 01:38:54.194
MITIGATING ENORMOUS COLLATERAL
01:38:54.261 --> 01:38:55.162
HARMS THAT FLOW FROM FIREARM
01:38:55.229 --> 01:38:57.965
INDUSTRY COMMERCE. CALIFORNIA'S
01:38:58.032 --> 01:38:59.466
ACTED TO INVEST IN REALLY
01:38:59.533 --> 01:39:00.301
EFFECTIVE VIOLENCE PREVENTION
01:39:00.367 --> 01:39:01.669
INITIATIVES THAT WORK TO
01:39:01.735 --> 01:39:03.404
INTERRUPT IN TERMS OF CYCLES OF
01:39:03.470 --> 01:39:04.571
SHOOTINGS. PARDON ME, MR CHAIR.
01:39:04.638 --> 01:39:06.240
IF I MAY CAN WE ASK MR FREDERICK
01:39:06.307 --> 01:39:08.108
TO SPEAK UP? CAN YOU SPEAK UP?
01:39:08.175 --> 01:39:10.811
SORRY TO HEAR YES. SORRY ABOUT
01:39:10.878 --> 01:39:12.946
THAT. UM I WANT TO SAY THIS
01:39:13.013 --> 01:39:14.415
PROGRAM SUPPORT AND HE'LL
01:39:14.481 --> 01:39:15.649
VICTIMS OF FIREARM VIOLENCE AND
01:39:15.716 --> 01:39:16.717
PROVIDE TARGETED INTERVENTION
01:39:16.784 --> 01:39:17.584
SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS
01:39:17.651 --> 01:39:19.119
IDENTIFIED AS HIGHEST RISK OF
01:39:19.186 --> 01:39:21.088
BEING SHOT OR INVOLVED IN CYCLES
01:39:21.155 --> 01:39:22.690
OF VIOLENCE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
01:39:22.756 --> 01:39:23.857
THE STATE'S INVESTMENT NEEDS
01:39:23.924 --> 01:39:24.792
PROGRAMS HAVE PROVIDED A
01:39:24.858 --> 01:39:26.827
CRITICAL LIFELINE TO TEMPORARILY
01:39:26.894 --> 01:39:28.729
SUSTAINED AND EXPANDED PROGRAMS
01:39:28.796 --> 01:39:29.997
EMPLOYING FRONTLINE VIOLENCE,
01:39:30.064 --> 01:39:30.864
INTERVENTION PROFESSIONALS AND
01:39:30.931 --> 01:39:34.335
SAVING LIVES TODAY. HOWEVER
01:39:34.401 --> 01:39:35.369
THESE INVESTMENTS HAVE RELIED
01:39:35.436 --> 01:39:36.603
THUS FAR ON SHORT TERM GENERAL
01:39:36.670 --> 01:39:38.305
FUND COMMITMENT. SUSTAINED
01:39:38.372 --> 01:39:39.973
REDUCTIONS IN GUN VIOLENCE WILL
01:39:40.040 --> 01:39:40.874
REQUIRE A SUSTAINED INVESTMENTS
01:39:40.941 --> 01:39:42.976
IN PREVENTION AND RECOVERY. AND
01:39:43.043 --> 01:39:43.977
THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN A TOP
01:39:44.044 --> 01:39:45.212
PRIORITY FOR MY ORGANIZATION AND
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:47.047
A COALITION OF MANY OTHERS TO
01:39:47.114 --> 01:39:48.148
ESTABLISH A DEDICATED REVENUE
01:39:48.215 --> 01:39:49.216
STREAMS SUSTAIN THIS LIFESAVING
01:39:49.283 --> 01:39:51.118
WORK. THEY'RE STILL WOULD DO
01:39:51.185 --> 01:39:52.953
JUST THAT FAIRLY GENERATING
01:39:53.020 --> 01:39:54.621
SUSTAINED REVENUE FOR NEW GUN
01:39:54.688 --> 01:39:56.023
BALANCE PREVENTION, HEALING AND
01:39:56.090 --> 01:39:57.725
RECOVERY FUND THROUGH A MODEST
01:39:57.791 --> 01:39:58.992
TAX ON FIREMEN, AMMUNITION
01:39:59.059 --> 01:40:00.194
INDUSTRY RETAILERS WHOSE LAWFUL
01:40:00.260 --> 01:40:01.128
BUSINESS ACTIVITIES STILL
01:40:01.195 --> 01:40:03.964
IMPOSES ENORMOUS COLLATERAL
01:40:04.031 --> 01:40:05.432
CONSEQUENCES ON OUR STATE'S
01:40:05.499 --> 01:40:07.601
FAMILIES AND TAXPAYERS ALSO WANT
01:40:07.668 --> 01:40:09.103
TO SAY TO BE CLEAR. SIMILAR
01:40:09.169 --> 01:40:10.971
FIREARM AMMUNITION INDUSTRY
01:40:11.038 --> 01:40:13.040
EXCISE TAX HAS BEEN IN PLACE AT
01:40:13.107 --> 01:40:14.708
THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR OVER A
01:40:14.775 --> 01:40:16.510
CENTURY, AND THE GUN INDUSTRY
01:40:16.577 --> 01:40:17.044
INDUSTRY HAS SUPPORTED IT.
01:40:17.111 --> 01:40:18.379
REVENUES FROM THE SIX SIZE TAX
01:40:18.445 --> 01:40:19.980
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL HAVE BEEN
01:40:20.047 --> 01:40:21.248
USED TO FUND WILDLIFE
01:40:21.315 --> 01:40:21.782
CONSERVATION EFFORTS THAT
01:40:21.849 --> 01:40:23.250
REMAINED THE EIGHT THAT AFFECTS
01:40:23.317 --> 01:40:24.451
THAT GUNS AND AMMUNITION HAVE ON
01:40:24.518 --> 01:40:25.452
WILDLIFE POPULATIONS THROUGH
01:40:25.519 --> 01:40:27.855
HUNTING. THE NRA HAS REFERRED TO
01:40:27.921 --> 01:40:28.856
THIS FEDERAL TAX AS A
01:40:28.922 --> 01:40:30.457
LEGISLATIVE MODEL AND FRIEND OF
01:40:30.524 --> 01:40:31.191
THE HUNTER AND THE FARM
01:40:31.258 --> 01:40:32.659
INDUSTRY'S TRADE ASSOCIATION AND
01:40:32.726 --> 01:40:34.695
SS HAS REPEATEDLY EMPHASIZED THE
01:40:34.762 --> 01:40:36.797
IMPORTANCE OF THIS TAX. JUST AS
01:40:36.864 --> 01:40:37.664
THE FEDERAL FIRE MINISTRY TAX
01:40:37.731 --> 01:40:39.133
REASONABLY GENERATES REVENUE.
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:40.601
THREE IMMEDIATE YEAR ENORMOUS
01:40:40.667 --> 01:40:41.368
HARMFUL EFFECTS OF FOREIGN
01:40:41.435 --> 01:40:43.137
MINISTRY OF COMMERCE CAN HAVE ON
01:40:43.203 --> 01:40:45.038
WILDLIFE AND ANIMALS. THIS BILL
01:40:45.105 --> 01:40:46.106
WOULD PLACE AN IDENTICAL TAX ON
01:40:46.173 --> 01:40:48.108
RETAIL SELLERS IN THE SAME
01:40:48.175 --> 01:40:49.076
INDUSTRY PROFITING FROM THE SAME
01:40:49.143 --> 01:40:51.078
PRODUCTS IN ORDER TO FUND
01:40:51.145 --> 01:40:51.745
PROGRAMS THAT EFFECTIVELY
01:40:51.812 --> 01:40:53.247
REMEDIATE THE DEVASTATING HUMAN
01:40:53.313 --> 01:40:54.815
TOLL THESE PRODUCTS TAKE ON
01:40:54.882 --> 01:40:55.816
FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES IN
01:40:55.883 --> 01:40:58.085
CALIFORNIA. THIS BILL IS NOT
01:40:58.152 --> 01:40:59.586
INTENDED TO PENALIZE FIREARMS
01:40:59.653 --> 01:41:00.988
SELLERS OR BUYERS OR OTHERWISE
01:41:01.054 --> 01:41:02.656
DISCOURAGE LAWFUL FIREARM SALES
01:41:02.723 --> 01:41:03.891
WHATSOEVER, BUT WOULD REASONABLY
01:41:03.957 --> 01:41:07.194
GENERATE REVENUE. SECURE FUNDING
01:41:07.261 --> 01:41:08.962
FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE TARGETED
01:41:09.029 --> 01:41:09.963
AT MITIGATING THE HARMS
01:41:10.030 --> 01:41:10.564
PROFITABLE INDUSTRIES PRODUCTS
01:41:10.631 --> 01:41:13.000
TOO OFTEN CAUSE IT WOULD HELP
01:41:13.066 --> 01:41:14.835
STOP SHOOTINGS SAVE LIVES MAKE
01:41:14.902 --> 01:41:15.936
OUR STATE A BETTER, SAFER PLACE
01:41:16.003 --> 01:41:17.171
IN THE FUTURE. WE HEARD YOUR
01:41:17.237 --> 01:41:20.040
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL
01:41:20.107 --> 01:41:22.042
BRING IT BACK TO ROOM. 1 12. YOU
01:41:22.109 --> 01:41:23.177
CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR
01:41:23.243 --> 01:41:25.212
ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU. SANDRA
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:27.214
WHETSTONE. I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH
01:41:27.281 --> 01:41:28.382
MOMS DEMAND ACTION, AND I'M HERE
01:41:28.449 --> 01:41:31.618
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR
01:41:31.685 --> 01:41:32.653
LOVELL, OTTO AND THE VOLUNTEER
01:41:32.719 --> 01:41:34.555
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION HERE IN
01:41:34.621 --> 01:41:38.192
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MELISSA
01:41:38.258 --> 01:41:39.159
KIRSI WITH CALIFORNIA'S FOR
01:41:39.226 --> 01:41:40.327
SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND SUPPORT.
01:41:40.394 --> 01:41:41.929
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
01:41:41.995 --> 01:41:43.397
MORNING. JENNIFER BORNSTEIN WITH
01:41:43.464 --> 01:41:45.032
MOMS DEMAND ACTION FOR GUN SENSE
01:41:45.098 --> 01:41:48.235
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
01:41:48.302 --> 01:41:52.206
MARY LOU ROSSETTO. VOLUNTEER
01:41:52.272 --> 01:41:54.074
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION, FORMER
01:41:54.141 --> 01:41:55.209
POLICE OFFICER AND GUN OWNER AND
01:41:55.275 --> 01:42:01.148
SUPPORT THANK YOU. KAREN ZANOTTO
01:42:01.215 --> 01:42:01.915
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
01:42:01.982 --> 01:42:04.051
ACTION AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU
01:42:04.117 --> 01:42:05.619
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
01:42:05.686 --> 01:42:08.055
SUPPORT HERE IN ROOM 1 12 SEEN
01:42:08.121 --> 01:42:09.790
NONE MODERATORS. LET'S GO TO OUR
01:42:09.857 --> 01:42:11.024
PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES AND
01:42:11.091 --> 01:42:19.132
SUPPORT. 12 27. IF YOU WOULD
01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:21.602
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
01:42:21.668 --> 01:42:24.605
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
01:42:24.671 --> 01:42:26.406
OUR FIRST COMMENT COMES FROM
01:42:26.473 --> 01:42:31.044
LINE 76, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
01:42:31.111 --> 01:42:32.846
YOU, MR CHAIR RYAN SPENCER ON
01:42:32.913 --> 01:42:34.615
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
01:42:34.681 --> 01:42:37.951
ASSOCIATION CAN SUPPORT. NEXT
01:42:38.018 --> 01:42:44.124
WITNESS. JUST ONE MOMENT WHILE
01:42:44.191 --> 01:42:45.225
THEY GATHER THE NUMBER THEY
01:42:45.292 --> 01:42:57.304
DIALED IN.
01:42:57.371 --> 01:43:10.551
ONE MORE MOMENT, PLEASE.
01:43:10.617 --> 01:43:18.559
FLYING 1 29. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
01:43:18.625 --> 01:43:32.205
PLAYING 1 29. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
01:43:32.272 --> 01:43:34.041
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE
01:43:34.107 --> 01:43:36.043
IN. Q OKAY, GREAT. NOW WE'LL
01:43:36.109 --> 01:43:38.312
BRING IT TO OPPOSITION. WE HAVE
01:43:38.378 --> 01:43:39.546
TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES LISTED AS
01:43:39.613 --> 01:43:42.316
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE DAN REED.
01:43:42.382 --> 01:43:44.551
AND WE HAVE TRAVIS, RICK TRAVIS.
01:43:44.618 --> 01:43:46.486
AND WE HAVE DAN REED HERE IN THE
01:43:46.553 --> 01:43:51.258
ROOM. THE SHOW'S IN PERSON, I
01:43:51.325 --> 01:43:53.226
GUESS NOT. DO WE HAVE MR TRAVIS
01:43:53.293 --> 01:44:00.200
ONLINE? MR CHAIR CENTERS TRAVEL
01:44:00.267 --> 01:44:01.501
FROM BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA RIFLE
01:44:01.568 --> 01:44:03.337
PISTOL ASSOCIATION GOVERNORS OF
01:44:03.403 --> 01:44:05.205
CALIFORNIA WE STAND WITH LAW
01:44:05.272 --> 01:44:06.006
ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT
01:44:06.073 --> 01:44:07.207
CALIFORNIA BUT THE SAFETY OF OUR
01:44:07.274 --> 01:44:08.308
COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS FIRST,
01:44:08.375 --> 01:44:11.078
HOWEVER, WE OPPOSE CUTS IN
01:44:11.144 --> 01:44:12.713
MILLIONS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
01:44:12.779 --> 01:44:13.614
FOR THE ACTUAL CRIMINAL TO
01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:15.048
COMPOSE THE FRACTION OF A
01:44:15.115 --> 01:44:16.717
PERCENT OF POPULATION WHO ARE
01:44:16.783 --> 01:44:20.087
NOT LÀ BIDEN A B 18 AND A B 12
01:44:20.153 --> 01:44:21.755
23 BILLS IN THE 21 22
01:44:21.822 --> 01:44:23.724
LEGISLATIVE SESSION CANNOT
01:44:23.790 --> 01:44:24.825
COUNTESS AND BEFORE EVEN THOUGH
01:44:24.891 --> 01:44:27.060
THE PARTY HOLDS A SUPERMAJORITY
01:44:27.127 --> 01:44:29.396
GAME AMENDING BUILDING ENERGY
01:44:29.463 --> 01:44:31.198
EFFICIENCY STANDARD BELT
01:44:31.264 --> 01:44:32.766
CIRCUMVENT THE REVIEW PROCESS OF
01:44:32.833 --> 01:44:34.201
HOW THE LEGISLATURE AND THE
01:44:34.267 --> 01:44:36.803
BYPASS THE ASSEMBLY OR A B 12 23
01:44:36.870 --> 01:44:38.372
PREVIOUSLY CONNECTED THE BEST
01:44:38.438 --> 01:44:40.273
TONIGHT THE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO
01:44:40.340 --> 01:44:41.508
BE HEARD AND TRANSPARENCY WE ALL
01:44:41.575 --> 01:44:43.710
DESERVE. FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
01:44:43.777 --> 01:44:44.978
. TAILS ALREADY BRING MILLIONS
01:44:45.045 --> 01:44:46.346
OF DOLLARS ARE STILL TOUCHING
01:44:46.413 --> 01:44:47.648
THE CALIFORNIA STATE BUDGET EACH
01:44:47.714 --> 01:44:49.082
YEAR, MANY COMMUNITIES
01:44:49.149 --> 01:44:49.950
THROUGHOUT THE CALIFORNIA
01:44:50.017 --> 01:44:51.184
ALREADY COLLECT OVER 10% AND SO
01:44:51.251 --> 01:44:54.554
TOUCHED ADDITIONALLY, AN AVERAGE
01:44:54.621 --> 01:44:56.957
OF $40 MILLION OF PREVIOUSLY, UM
01:44:57.024 --> 01:44:59.226
SAID BY THOSE OPPOSED COMES OUT
01:44:59.292 --> 01:45:00.961
OF PITTMAN ROBERTSON ACT 11%
01:45:01.028 --> 01:45:02.295
FEDERAL EXCISE TAX, THE STORY
01:45:02.362 --> 01:45:04.097
IMPOSED ON THEMSELVES POINT ARMS
01:45:04.164 --> 01:45:06.400
AND AMMUNITION. CASE LAW MAKES
01:45:06.466 --> 01:45:08.435
IT CLEAR STATES MAY NOT IMPOSE
01:45:08.502 --> 01:45:09.903
THE CHARGE FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF
01:45:09.970 --> 01:45:11.571
A RIGHT GRANTED BY THE FEDERAL
01:45:11.638 --> 01:45:13.340
PROSTITUTION AND A PERSON SHOULD
01:45:13.407 --> 01:45:15.208
NOT BE COMPELLED TO PURCHASE
01:45:15.275 --> 01:45:16.543
THROUGH A FEE OR TAX PRIVILEGES
01:45:16.610 --> 01:45:17.411
FREEDOM GRANTED BY THE
01:45:17.477 --> 01:45:19.446
CONSTITUTION. THIS TYPE OF TAX
01:45:19.513 --> 01:45:20.881
SCHEME HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY
01:45:20.947 --> 01:45:21.381
STRUCK DOWN IN MULTIPLE
01:45:21.448 --> 01:45:22.983
JURISDICTIONS, A MARRIAGE
01:45:23.050 --> 01:45:25.085
LICENSE TAX BEING USED TO PUNCH
01:45:25.152 --> 01:45:26.386
SHELTERS FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC
01:45:26.453 --> 01:45:27.387
VIOLENCE WAS RECENTLY STRUCK
01:45:27.454 --> 01:45:30.023
DOWN ON SIMILAR GROUNDS. IN THAT
01:45:30.090 --> 01:45:31.692
CASE, THE COURT POINTED STATUTE
01:45:31.758 --> 01:45:33.694
CANNOT VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION
01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:35.295
, NO MATTER HOW DESIRABLE OR
01:45:35.362 --> 01:45:36.763
BENEFICIAL THE LEGISLATION.
01:45:36.830 --> 01:45:38.532
MAYBE I TOOK A LOT OF STATEMENT
01:45:38.598 --> 01:45:40.567
AN POST TAXES AND CONNECTION
01:45:40.634 --> 01:45:41.635
WITH THE EXERCISE OF THE
01:45:41.702 --> 01:45:43.070
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT WHEN THOSE
01:45:43.136 --> 01:45:44.571
THINGS ARE DEFINED TO RECOUP THE
01:45:44.638 --> 01:45:46.006
COST IN CREDIT, MINISTERING
01:45:46.073 --> 01:45:46.873
REGULATORY REGIME, ENGLISH
01:45:46.940 --> 01:45:49.843
TAXPAYERS ARE SUBJECTED. THIS
01:45:49.910 --> 01:45:51.678
TAXI THE RECRUITS TO COME FROM
01:45:51.745 --> 01:45:52.979
THE TREATMENT PLAN REGULATIONS
01:45:53.046 --> 01:45:55.048
NOTED THAT EFFORTS TO BENEFIT
01:45:55.115 --> 01:45:56.516
FINDS CONSUMERS GENERALLY THE
01:45:56.583 --> 01:45:58.085
MAIN BEING USED TO CREATE THE
01:45:58.151 --> 01:45:59.686
NEW GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION
01:45:59.753 --> 01:46:01.088
HEARING COMING AGAIN. WE SUPPORT
01:46:01.154 --> 01:46:02.556
CRIME PREVENTION AND VICTIM
01:46:02.622 --> 01:46:04.091
SUPPORT THAT NOT BEING ON THE
01:46:04.157 --> 01:46:05.992
BUS OF LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS,
01:46:06.059 --> 01:46:07.060
THEREFORE, ABUSE THAT THESE
01:46:07.127 --> 01:46:08.161
ADDITIONAL TAXES ARE UNJUSTIFIED
01:46:08.228 --> 01:46:10.697
AND UNLAWFUL. YOU HAVE PEOPLE
01:46:10.764 --> 01:46:11.598
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SOME
01:46:11.665 --> 01:46:13.700
LEGISLATION IN REDUCING CRIME
01:46:13.767 --> 01:46:15.235
AND CRIMINALS OFF OUR STREETS
01:46:15.302 --> 01:46:17.838
AND OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
01:46:17.904 --> 01:46:18.905
FIREARM OWNERSHIP NOT BE DONE
01:46:18.972 --> 01:46:20.907
SLIPPING THE BELT FOR ACTION. TO
01:46:20.974 --> 01:46:22.375
BACK AND THE WHOLE SOCIETY
01:46:22.442 --> 01:46:23.844
CASTING ALL BY INSISTENT
01:46:23.910 --> 01:46:25.946
BEHAVIOR OF NATIONAL FRACTION 1%
01:46:26.012 --> 01:46:27.514
OF THE POPULATION, NOT THE
01:46:27.581 --> 01:46:29.583
SOLUTION, BUT IS REASON TO COME
01:46:29.649 --> 01:46:31.017
TO A RIFLE ASSOCIATION CAMERAS.
01:46:31.084 --> 01:46:31.818
CALIFORNIA'S DOWN STRONG
01:46:31.885 --> 01:46:33.720
OPPOSITION TO HB 12 27. THANK
01:46:33.787 --> 01:46:36.857
YOU. THANK YOU ARE THERE WASN'T
01:46:36.923 --> 01:46:38.925
CITIZEN ROOM 1 12 WISHING TO
01:46:38.992 --> 01:46:40.093
TESTIFY? WAS THAT HENRY? ALL
01:46:40.160 --> 01:46:43.930
RIGHT, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. MR
01:46:43.997 --> 01:46:45.398
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
01:46:45.465 --> 01:46:46.333
FOR THE RECORD. DAN REED WITH
01:46:46.399 --> 01:46:47.467
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION HERE
01:46:47.534 --> 01:46:49.169
IN OPPOSITION. I APOLOGIZE FOR
01:46:49.236 --> 01:46:50.170
SPREAD THIN BETWEEN COMMITTEES
01:46:50.237 --> 01:46:52.239
TODAY. WE'RE IN STRONG
01:46:52.305 --> 01:46:54.207
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. I
01:46:54.274 --> 01:46:55.475
DIDN'T GET TO HEAR ALL THE
01:46:55.542 --> 01:46:56.676
TESTIMONY OF MY THE PREVIOUS
01:46:56.743 --> 01:46:58.445
SPEAKER, MR TRAVIS, BUT
01:46:58.512 --> 01:47:00.013
CALIFORNIA GUN OWNERS ARE
01:47:00.080 --> 01:47:02.349
ALREADY SUBJECT TO A LITANY OF
01:47:02.415 --> 01:47:03.750
FEES AND TAXES. WE HAVE THE
01:47:03.817 --> 01:47:05.418
PITTMAN ROBERTSON TAX AT 11% ON
01:47:05.485 --> 01:47:07.487
THE FEDERAL LEVEL $31.19 EUROS
01:47:07.554 --> 01:47:09.623
FEE $1 FIREARMS SAFETY ACT VIA
01:47:09.689 --> 01:47:10.991
FIREARMS, SAFETY AND ENHANCEMENT
01:47:11.057 --> 01:47:13.894
FEED AT $25. YOU ALSO ARE
01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:15.996
REQUIRED TO GET A FIREARM SAFETY
01:47:16.062 --> 01:47:17.430
CERTIFICATE. THAT'S ANOTHER $25
01:47:17.497 --> 01:47:18.999
. IN ADDITION TO AMMO BACKGROUND
01:47:19.065 --> 01:47:20.500
CHECKS, WHICH CAN RANGE FROM 1
01:47:20.567 --> 01:47:22.102
TO 19 IN ANY STATE AND LOCAL
01:47:22.169 --> 01:47:24.037
TAXES, GUN OWNERS ARE PAIRING,
01:47:24.104 --> 01:47:26.306
PAYING THEIR SHARE OF TAXES AND
01:47:26.373 --> 01:47:28.074
FEES ALREADY, UM MANY OF THESE
01:47:28.141 --> 01:47:30.443
FEES WE GO TO FUND A NUMBER OF
01:47:30.510 --> 01:47:32.045
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS.
01:47:32.112 --> 01:47:33.613
YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME THERE WAS
01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:35.048
A SURPLUS OF MILLIONS AND
01:47:35.115 --> 01:47:37.050
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE
01:47:37.117 --> 01:47:39.953
GENEROSITY THAT WENT TO THIS, UM
01:47:40.020 --> 01:47:41.154
, TO THESE ACCOUNTS THAT THAT
01:47:41.221 --> 01:47:42.255
MONEY WAS BORROWED FROM TO GO
01:47:42.322 --> 01:47:44.291
AFTER THE APPS PROGRAM. I KNOW A
01:47:44.357 --> 01:47:46.226
LOT OF THOSE FEES ARE STILL
01:47:46.293 --> 01:47:47.294
GOING TO FUND APPS. BUT IF YOU
01:47:47.360 --> 01:47:49.329
LOOK AT JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS
01:47:49.396 --> 01:47:50.831
THIS TAX IF WE'RE TAXING AT 10
01:47:50.897 --> 01:47:52.432
AND 11% IN 2020 ALONE, 2021
01:47:52.499 --> 01:47:54.367
ALONE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
01:47:54.434 --> 01:47:55.468
WE DROVE SOMEWHERE IN THE
01:47:55.535 --> 01:47:56.403
NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1,080,000
01:47:56.469 --> 01:47:59.306
FIREARMS ALONE. UM GUNS COST
01:47:59.372 --> 01:48:01.341
HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS. AND SO
01:48:01.408 --> 01:48:02.309
YOU'RE LOOKING PROBABLY AT LEAST
01:48:02.375 --> 01:48:04.444
NORTH OF $80 MILLION AND JUST
01:48:04.511 --> 01:48:05.946
FIREARMS SALES, NOT TO MENTION
01:48:06.012 --> 01:48:07.147
THE MANY ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION
01:48:07.214 --> 01:48:08.815
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A
01:48:08.882 --> 01:48:10.784
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT. ON
01:48:10.851 --> 01:48:11.651
PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO
01:48:11.718 --> 01:48:12.886
EXERCISE THIS INHERENT,
01:48:12.953 --> 01:48:14.888
FUNDAMENTAL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW,
01:48:14.955 --> 01:48:17.090
SOMEONE LIKE A OLYMPIAN SHOOTER
01:48:17.157 --> 01:48:18.024
WHO SHOOTS THOUSANDS AND
01:48:18.091 --> 01:48:19.192
THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS IS JUST
01:48:19.259 --> 01:48:20.994
GOING TO BE CRUSHED BY ATTACKS
01:48:21.061 --> 01:48:22.829
LIKE THIS. THIS IS GOING TO HAVE
01:48:22.896 --> 01:48:24.364
A DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON ON
01:48:24.431 --> 01:48:25.732
COMMUNITIES. THEY MAY NOT HAVE
01:48:25.799 --> 01:48:27.100
SOME OF THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES
01:48:27.167 --> 01:48:28.869
THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO OUT
01:48:28.935 --> 01:48:30.036
AND EXERCISE THIS RIGHT. BUT
01:48:30.103 --> 01:48:31.137
BECAUSE OF THE NEARLY $100 IN
01:48:31.204 --> 01:48:33.073
FEES JUST TO GO AND PURCHASE
01:48:33.139 --> 01:48:34.941
THEIR FIRST FIREARM NOW WE'RE
01:48:35.008 --> 01:48:36.576
GOING TO SADDLE THEM WITH MORE
01:48:36.643 --> 01:48:38.712
AND MORE FEES, AND THERE'S MORE
01:48:38.778 --> 01:48:39.846
BILLS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATING
01:48:39.913 --> 01:48:40.847
ADDITIONAL FEES IN THIS BUILDING
01:48:40.914 --> 01:48:42.349
RIGHT NOW. UH CRIMINALS AT THE
01:48:42.415 --> 01:48:43.717
END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE
01:48:43.783 --> 01:48:45.352
UTILIZING ILLICIT MEANS TO GET
01:48:45.418 --> 01:48:46.453
THEIR FIREARMS. THEY'RE NOT
01:48:46.519 --> 01:48:48.121
GOING TO BE PAYING THESE TAXES.
01:48:48.188 --> 01:48:49.289
THESE FEES. THEY'RE GOING TO
01:48:49.356 --> 01:48:50.757
CONTINUE TO OPERATE OUTSIDE THE
01:48:50.824 --> 01:48:52.259
SYSTEM, AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE
01:48:52.325 --> 01:48:53.193
FOR THE BAD ACTS THAT ARE
01:48:53.260 --> 01:48:55.028
HAPPENING IN THIS IN IN THE
01:48:55.095 --> 01:48:56.162
MISUSE AND GUN VIOLENCE IS
01:48:56.229 --> 01:48:57.931
HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
01:48:57.998 --> 01:48:59.733
AND WITH THAT, AND FOR A NUMBER
01:48:59.799 --> 01:49:00.934
OF OTHER REASONS WE OPPOSE THIS
01:49:01.001 --> 01:49:02.969
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW
01:49:03.036 --> 01:49:04.437
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ROOM. WHEN
01:49:04.504 --> 01:49:05.705
12 IS THEIR WITNESSES AND
01:49:05.772 --> 01:49:09.175
OPPOSITION. 12 27 STATE YOUR
01:49:09.242 --> 01:49:10.844
NAME AND YOUR IMMUNIZATION, MR
01:49:10.911 --> 01:49:12.078
CHAIRMAN SAM PAREDES,
01:49:12.145 --> 01:49:12.579
REPRESENTING GUN OWNERS.
01:49:12.646 --> 01:49:13.380
CALIFORNIAN OPPOSITION. THANK
01:49:13.446 --> 01:49:19.619
YOU. AND MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
01:49:19.686 --> 01:49:20.954
THE COMMITTEE MARK HENLEY WITH
01:49:21.021 --> 01:49:22.789
CALIFORNIA WATERFALL ASSOCIATION
01:49:22.856 --> 01:49:24.724
ON BEHALF OF OUR 20,000 MEMBERS
01:49:24.791 --> 01:49:25.759
AND STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK
01:49:25.825 --> 01:49:31.031
YOU. MR CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE
01:49:31.097 --> 01:49:32.532
COMMITTEE BILL GAINS ON BEHALF
01:49:32.599 --> 01:49:34.000
OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN ELK
01:49:34.067 --> 01:49:34.834
FOUNDATION, THE CALIFORNIA
01:49:34.901 --> 01:49:36.736
BOWMAN HUNTER STATE ARCHERY
01:49:36.803 --> 01:49:37.837
ASSOCIATION, THE CALIFORNIA DEAR
01:49:37.904 --> 01:49:39.072
ASSOCIATION, SAN FRANCISCO BAY
01:49:39.139 --> 01:49:41.308
AREA SAFARI CLUB INTERNATIONAL.
01:49:41.374 --> 01:49:42.943
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF THE WILD
01:49:43.009 --> 01:49:44.444
SHEEP FOUNDATION THAT HILLARY
01:49:44.511 --> 01:49:45.879
BASIN WETLANDS ASSOCIATION TO
01:49:45.946 --> 01:49:47.347
CALIFORNIA, HOUSEMAN FOR
01:49:47.414 --> 01:49:48.515
CONSERVATION, CAL OR WETLANDS
01:49:48.581 --> 01:49:50.317
AND WATERFOWL COUNCIL NATIONAL
01:49:50.383 --> 01:49:51.952
WILD TURKEY FEDERATION, THEN
01:49:52.018 --> 01:49:53.553
DIEGO COUNTY WILDLIFE FEDERATION
01:49:53.620 --> 01:49:54.120
OF BLACK BRANT GROUP IN THE
01:49:54.187 --> 01:49:55.188
SYSTEMIC SYSTEM IN RESOURCE
01:49:55.255 --> 01:49:57.357
CONSERVATION DISTRICT. IN
01:49:57.424 --> 01:49:59.326
OPPOSITION TO A B 12 27 NEXT
01:49:59.392 --> 01:50:05.231
WITNESS. WARMEST CHAIR MEMBERS
01:50:05.298 --> 01:50:06.399
RYAN SHERMAN AT THE RIVERSIDE
01:50:06.466 --> 01:50:08.201
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION. UM
01:50:08.268 --> 01:50:09.703
REGRETFULLY WERE IN OPPOSITION
01:50:09.769 --> 01:50:11.371
AS WELL. OUR LETTER I BELIEVE
01:50:11.438 --> 01:50:13.306
GOT IN LATE ALSO IN OPPOSITION
01:50:13.373 --> 01:50:14.541
OF THE FOLLOWING POLICE OFFICER
01:50:14.607 --> 01:50:18.211
ASSOCIATIONS. FROM CLAREMONT
01:50:18.278 --> 01:50:20.347
CORONA, POMONA PALACE FREEZE,
01:50:20.413 --> 01:50:22.549
NEWPORT BEACH, UPLAND, SANTA
01:50:22.615 --> 01:50:24.818
ANA, BURBANK, INGLEWOOD, ARCADIA
01:50:24.884 --> 01:50:26.353
, RIVERSIDE FORTUNE AND COVER
01:50:26.419 --> 01:50:27.620
CITY. ALL IN OPPOSITION. THANK
01:50:27.687 --> 01:50:30.957
YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
01:50:31.024 --> 01:50:32.058
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION HERE IN
01:50:32.125 --> 01:50:35.295
ROUND 1 12 SEEN NONE. MODERATE
01:50:35.362 --> 01:50:36.596
OR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LINES
01:50:36.663 --> 01:50:38.331
FOR WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION OF
01:50:38.398 --> 01:50:41.568
12 27. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
01:50:41.634 --> 01:50:43.203
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
01:50:43.269 --> 01:50:48.308
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. OUR FIRST
01:50:48.375 --> 01:50:49.576
LINE IS LINE 1 29, PLEASE GO
01:50:49.642 --> 01:50:59.085
AHEAD. BLIND 1 29. IF YOU'RE ON
01:50:59.152 --> 01:51:01.755
YOU, PLEASE. CHECK YOUR HOPES
01:51:01.821 --> 01:51:11.631
UP. MOVING ON TO 1 30 FOR YOUR
01:51:11.698 --> 01:51:15.001
LIGHT IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING,
01:51:15.068 --> 01:51:16.970
SENATORS. MY NAME IS STEVE ROD
01:51:17.037 --> 01:51:18.538
ON THE LIFE MEMBER OF THE NRA
01:51:18.605 --> 01:51:20.340
MEMBER OF CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND
01:51:20.407 --> 01:51:22.675
PISTOL. SOC ATION AND THE U. S
01:51:22.742 --> 01:51:24.577
NAVY VETERAN AND ON BEHALF OF
01:51:24.644 --> 01:51:27.414
OVER 400. LEGAL GUN OWNERS AND
01:51:27.480 --> 01:51:28.915
LAKE AND MENDOCINO COUNTY'S. WE
01:51:28.982 --> 01:51:30.950
STRONGLY URGED THE COMMITTEE TO
01:51:31.017 --> 01:51:35.321
OPPOSE A B 12 27. THANK YOU.
01:51:35.388 --> 01:51:37.390
THIS IS LINE 1 28, PLEASE GO
01:51:37.457 --> 01:51:41.928
AHEAD. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN,
01:51:41.995 --> 01:51:43.296
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE
01:51:43.363 --> 01:51:44.064
RECORD. MY NAME IS MICHAEL
01:51:44.130 --> 01:51:45.598
FINLEY, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT
01:51:45.665 --> 01:51:46.466
RELATIONS TO THE NATIONAL
01:51:46.533 --> 01:51:47.200
SHOOTING SPORTS FOUNDATION,
01:51:47.267 --> 01:51:48.701
WHICH IS A TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR
01:51:48.768 --> 01:51:49.803
THE MANUFACTURERS, RANGES AND
01:51:49.869 --> 01:51:50.603
RETAILERS.WE ARE STRONG
01:51:50.670 --> 01:51:52.505
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL. AS NOTED
01:51:52.572 --> 01:51:53.773
BY THE OPPOSITION EARLIER. THANK
01:51:53.840 --> 01:51:58.545
YOU. NEXT IS LYING. 1 20, PLEASE
01:51:58.611 --> 01:52:03.383
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
01:52:03.450 --> 01:52:04.918
CARLENE ELLIS. I'M A MEMBER OF
01:52:04.984 --> 01:52:06.920
THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
01:52:06.986 --> 01:52:08.588
ASSOCIATION. AND I'M ALSO A
01:52:08.655 --> 01:52:09.956
COMPETITIVE SHOOTER, SO I USE A
01:52:10.023 --> 01:52:12.392
LOT OF AMMUNITION TO PRACTICE.
01:52:12.459 --> 01:52:14.227
I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION OF A B
01:52:14.294 --> 01:52:15.962
12 27. PLEASE STOP TAXING ME TO
01:52:16.029 --> 01:52:20.333
DEATH. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
01:52:20.400 --> 01:52:21.601
NEXT IS LINE 1 40. PLEASE GO
01:52:21.668 --> 01:52:25.205
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, KAREN
01:52:25.271 --> 01:52:26.840
MEMBERS THAT DOES MICHELLE SOLAR
01:52:26.906 --> 01:52:28.074
WITH AARON REID AND ASSOCIATES
01:52:28.141 --> 01:52:30.009
AND I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE
01:52:30.076 --> 01:52:31.277
PEACE OFFICERS RESEARCH
01:52:31.344 --> 01:52:33.246
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA KORAC
01:52:33.313 --> 01:52:35.014
AND PRACTICE IN OPPOSITION TO 81
01:52:35.081 --> 01:52:39.586
TO 27. THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS.
01:52:39.652 --> 01:52:41.387
NEXT WE HAVE LINE 1 30, PLEASE
01:52:41.454 --> 01:52:45.625
GO AHEAD. 1 30. GOOD MORNING, MR
01:52:45.692 --> 01:52:47.127
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
01:52:47.193 --> 01:52:49.095
THIS IS JOHN HICKMAN AND THE
01:52:49.162 --> 01:52:50.597
CHAIRMAN OF THE NEVADA COUNTY
01:52:50.663 --> 01:52:52.599
GUN OWNERS ON BEHALF OF THE
01:52:52.665 --> 01:52:54.634
HUNDREDS OF GUN OWNERS IN NEVADA
01:52:54.701 --> 01:52:58.037
COUNTY. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
01:52:58.104 --> 01:52:59.038
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. NEXT
01:52:59.105 --> 01:53:03.810
WITNESS. NEXT WE HAVE LINE 1 39,
01:53:03.877 --> 01:53:06.913
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
01:53:06.980 --> 01:53:08.548
TAMMY VON BUG WITH VENTURA
01:53:08.615 --> 01:53:10.216
COUNTY GUN OWNERS, AND I
01:53:10.283 --> 01:53:11.351
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION
01:53:11.417 --> 01:53:15.788
. THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS. NEXT
01:53:15.855 --> 01:53:19.325
WE HAVE 1 42, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
01:53:19.392 --> 01:53:22.395
MR MCMAHON. I'M NOT SURE OF THE
01:53:22.462 --> 01:53:23.396
SOUTH SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
01:53:23.463 --> 01:53:25.064
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
01:53:25.131 --> 01:53:26.166
ASSOCIATION AND IN REMEMBER AND
01:53:26.232 --> 01:53:27.767
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU
01:53:27.834 --> 01:53:32.672
NEXT WITNESS. NEXT WE HAVE LINE
01:53:32.739 --> 01:53:37.277
1 32, PLEASE GO AHEAD. DANGER
01:53:37.343 --> 01:53:38.745
O'BRIEN, LIFELONG CALIFORNIA
01:53:38.811 --> 01:53:39.612
RESIDENT MEMBER OF THE
01:53:39.679 --> 01:53:40.680
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
01:53:40.747 --> 01:53:42.849
ASSOCIATION. IN STRONG
01:53:42.916 --> 01:53:44.817
OPPOSITION OF A B 12 27. THANK
01:53:44.884 --> 01:53:49.455
YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 1 25,
01:53:49.522 --> 01:53:53.726
PLEASE GO AHEAD. BEEN IN HIS
01:53:53.793 --> 01:53:55.261
RORY. HOW ME FROM THE A
01:53:55.328 --> 01:53:55.962
CALIFORNIA RIFLES PISTOLS
01:53:56.029 --> 01:53:57.764
ASSOCIATION, SACRAMENTO FOLSOM
01:53:57.830 --> 01:53:58.865
CHAPTER AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO
01:53:58.932 --> 01:54:06.306
THIS BILL. WE HAVE LINE 1 41,
01:54:06.372 --> 01:54:11.945
PLEASE GO AHEAD. BILLY WAGNER,
01:54:12.011 --> 01:54:12.946
MONO COUNTY AND STRONG
01:54:13.012 --> 01:54:18.384
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE
01:54:18.451 --> 01:54:22.422
HAVE LINE 1 37, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
01:54:22.488 --> 01:54:24.657
MY NAME IS CYNTHIA LIVINGSTON. I
01:54:24.724 --> 01:54:26.626
AM A CALIFORNIA NATIVE. I'M A
01:54:26.693 --> 01:54:27.360
RESIDENT OF MENDOCINO COUNTY.
01:54:27.427 --> 01:54:31.698
I'M A PARENT. I'M A LIFE MEMBER
01:54:31.764 --> 01:54:32.999
OF THE NATIONAL RIFLE
01:54:33.066 --> 01:54:35.535
ASSOCIATION LIFE MEMBER OF THE
01:54:35.602 --> 01:54:36.569
CALIFORNIA RIGHT IN YOUR
01:54:36.636 --> 01:54:39.973
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR POSITION.
01:54:40.039 --> 01:54:42.175
I'M A MEMBER OF THE WELL ARMED
01:54:42.242 --> 01:54:42.976
WOMAN. I REQUEST THE COMMITTEE
01:54:43.042 --> 01:54:49.182
OF OPPOSE A B 1 TO 7. THANK YOU.
01:54:49.249 --> 01:54:50.450
NEXT I HAVE LINED 1 24, PLEASE
01:54:50.516 --> 01:54:55.054
GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS DAN
01:54:55.121 --> 01:54:57.423
SHOALS AND A MEMBER OF THE ENTER
01:54:57.490 --> 01:55:00.493
A AND C R P A. AND I HAVE
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:01.194
STRONGLY OPPOSED MAYBE ONE
01:55:01.261 --> 01:55:05.698
TWIST. 1227. THANK YOU. THANKS.
01:55:05.765 --> 01:55:09.302
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 1 33. YES. MY
01:55:09.369 --> 01:55:12.538
NAME IS JERRY THOMAS. BODY
01:55:12.605 --> 01:55:14.540
MEMBER OF THE NRA, A LIFE MEMBER
01:55:14.607 --> 01:55:16.709
OF SASS AND THE GREAT GREAT
01:55:16.776 --> 01:55:18.311
GRANDSON SAMUEL TROOP WHO CAME
01:55:18.378 --> 01:55:21.214
TO CALIFORNIA 18 48 STRONGLY
01:55:21.281 --> 01:55:27.954
OPPOSE A B 1227. THANK YOU.
01:55:28.021 --> 01:55:29.188
NEXT. WE HAVE LIKE 1 26, PLEASE
01:55:29.255 --> 01:55:33.660
GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS
01:55:33.726 --> 01:55:35.295
MICHAEL AND BACK IN SACRAMENTO
01:55:35.361 --> 01:55:37.263
COUNTY. I AM A MEMBER OF THE
01:55:37.330 --> 01:55:38.798
CALIFORNIA RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND
01:55:38.865 --> 01:55:45.972
I OPPOSE 81 227. THANK YOU. MR
01:55:46.039 --> 01:55:47.707
CARROT. THIS TIME WE HAVE NOBODY
01:55:47.774 --> 01:55:49.309
ELSE IN. Q THANK YOU. WE'RE
01:55:49.375 --> 01:55:51.244
GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR
01:55:51.311 --> 01:55:52.245
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR
01:55:52.312 --> 01:55:53.713
SENATOR COMMERCENTRE? THANK YOU
01:55:53.780 --> 01:55:55.348
. I WANT TO THANK THE ASSEMBLY
01:55:55.415 --> 01:55:56.382
MEMBER FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
01:55:56.449 --> 01:55:58.251
FORWARD. I HAVE A COUPLE OF
01:55:58.318 --> 01:56:00.920
QUESTIONS. WHY ARE THERE NO
01:56:00.987 --> 01:56:02.822
EXEMPTIONS FOR FIRE ARMS THAT
01:56:02.889 --> 01:56:07.560
ARE USED AH! YOU KNOW BY FARMERS
01:56:07.627 --> 01:56:09.395
BY RANCHERS FROM FOLKS WHO
01:56:09.462 --> 01:56:11.631
ACTUALLY USE IT, YOU KNOW, FOR
01:56:11.698 --> 01:56:13.599
WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT. I WANT TO
01:56:13.666 --> 01:56:14.834
SAY I CERTAINLY DON'T SUPPORT
01:56:14.901 --> 01:56:16.369
THE KILLING OF ANIMALS, BUT I
01:56:16.436 --> 01:56:18.638
RECOGNIZE THAT FARM LIFE AND HOW
01:56:18.705 --> 01:56:20.073
THOSE BUSINESSES ARE OPERATED,
01:56:20.139 --> 01:56:21.174
ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM FROM
01:56:21.240 --> 01:56:24.344
OTHERS. YEAH, IT'S AN EXCELLENT
01:56:24.410 --> 01:56:25.578
QUESTION, SENATOR ACTUALLY JUST
01:56:25.645 --> 01:56:26.412
CAME FROM THE ASSEMBLY WATER
01:56:26.479 --> 01:56:27.513
PARKS AND WILDLIFE COMMITTEE
01:56:27.580 --> 01:56:29.916
WHERE WE VOTED UPON A BILL TO
01:56:29.982 --> 01:56:31.751
ALLOW FARMERS TO KILL WILD PIGS,
01:56:31.818 --> 01:56:34.787
FERAL PIGS. AND WHICH HAS BEEN
01:56:34.854 --> 01:56:36.389
AN ISSUE WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH
01:56:36.456 --> 01:56:37.156
FOR MANY YEARS TRYING TO GET
01:56:37.223 --> 01:56:40.093
THIS LEGISLATION PASSED. THIS IS
01:56:40.159 --> 01:56:41.294
JUST SIMPLY NEVER COME FORWARD
01:56:41.361 --> 01:56:47.066
FROM THE COMMUNITY. THE SECOND
01:56:47.133 --> 01:56:49.168
QUESTION IS, I DID NOTICE THAT
01:56:49.235 --> 01:56:51.204
THERE WAS THERE'S AN EXEMPTION.
01:56:51.270 --> 01:56:54.440
UM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, CORRECT.
01:56:54.507 --> 01:57:00.313
AND SO. WONDERING IF THERE IS A
01:57:00.380 --> 01:57:01.047
DISTINCTION BETWEEN HOW LAW
01:57:01.114 --> 01:57:02.548
ENFORCEMENT USES FIREARMS, FOR
01:57:02.615 --> 01:57:04.517
EXAMPLE, AND ONCE AGAIN FARMERS
01:57:04.584 --> 01:57:10.723
AND RANCHERS BECAUSE I THE IN A. SOMEWHAT IN A PURELY
01:57:10.790 --> 01:57:11.824
CONCEPTUAL AND SOMEWHAT
01:57:11.891 --> 01:57:15.695
REALISTIC, UM STANDPOINT.
01:57:15.762 --> 01:57:18.131
THEY'RE BOTH USING BOTH
01:57:18.197 --> 01:57:19.999
INDUSTRIES ARE USING FIREARMS TO
01:57:20.066 --> 01:57:21.267
PROTECT TO MAKE SURE THAT SAFETY
01:57:21.334 --> 01:57:25.705
AND WELFARE UM IS AT PLAY NOW
01:57:25.772 --> 01:57:29.409
GRANTED. WE HAVE LOTS OF
01:57:29.475 --> 01:57:30.910
DIFFERENCES OF OPINION WITH
01:57:30.977 --> 01:57:32.145
REGARDS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT
01:57:32.211 --> 01:57:35.782
FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT I'M
01:57:35.848 --> 01:57:37.083
JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF
01:57:37.150 --> 01:57:38.384
WHY LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS EXEMPTED
01:57:38.451 --> 01:57:42.822
AND NO OTHER PROBABLY ALSO, UM
01:57:42.889 --> 01:57:43.923
UM, INDUSTRIES. LEGITIMATE
01:57:43.990 --> 01:57:47.794
INDUSTRIES WERE YEAH, IT'S
01:57:47.860 --> 01:57:50.963
FASCINATING, OBVIOUSLY HAVE A
01:57:51.030 --> 01:57:54.700
GUN VIOLENCE PROBLEM IN AMERICA
01:57:54.767 --> 01:57:55.768
AND A GUN CULTURE PROBLEM IN
01:57:55.835 --> 01:58:00.907
AMERICA AND I CAN'T SPEAK. I
01:58:00.973 --> 01:58:03.209
DON'T THINK I CAN COMPLETELY
01:58:03.276 --> 01:58:07.980
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE. I
01:58:08.047 --> 01:58:09.982
THINK THAT THERE THERE IS A LOT
01:58:10.049 --> 01:58:11.717
THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT. WITH WHO
01:58:11.784 --> 01:58:15.688
IN SOCIETY HAS GUNS. AND I'M OR
01:58:15.755 --> 01:58:17.557
EVEN SEEING THE SUPREME COURT
01:58:17.623 --> 01:58:20.293
MAKE DECISIONS ALLOWING FOR MORE
01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:21.327
THE PROLIFERATION OF CARRYING
01:58:21.394 --> 01:58:25.798
GUNS IN SOCIETY. AYE. I WOULD
01:58:25.865 --> 01:58:27.066
JUST OPINE WITHOUT HAVING GIVEN
01:58:27.133 --> 01:58:30.837
IT. TOO DEEP THAT TO KIND OF
01:58:30.903 --> 01:58:32.004
WHERE YOU'RE PROBING. IS THAT
01:58:32.071 --> 01:58:34.507
FARMERS GROW FOOD. THEY DON'T
01:58:34.574 --> 01:58:38.411
PROTECT FOOD. AND I DON'T THINK
01:58:38.478 --> 01:58:43.182
I'M. DESCRIBING THIS ACCURATELY
01:58:43.249 --> 01:58:45.084
OR NOT, BUT I THINK IN SOCIETY,
01:58:45.151 --> 01:58:46.686
THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT LAW
01:58:46.752 --> 01:58:48.788
ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS A PART OF
01:58:48.855 --> 01:58:50.256
GOVERNMENT THAT THEY ARE IN A
01:58:50.323 --> 01:58:51.991
JOB OF PROTECTION. WHICH MAY
01:58:52.058 --> 01:58:56.896
REQUIRE, UM. GUNS AND AMMUNITION
01:58:56.963 --> 01:58:59.966
AND WE THE PEOPLE WOULD BE PAIN
01:59:00.032 --> 01:59:02.802
. UH THESE TAXES IF THEY WERE
01:59:02.869 --> 01:59:05.071
NOT EXEMPTED, AND THEN OUR CITY
01:59:05.137 --> 01:59:06.572
AGENCIES OR COUNTY AGENCIES
01:59:06.639 --> 01:59:08.207
WOULD THEN HAVE LESS MONEY TO DO
01:59:08.274 --> 01:59:09.375
OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING
01:59:09.442 --> 01:59:11.310
TO DO. THAT, BUT THAT IS WITHOUT
01:59:11.377 --> 01:59:14.313
HAVING REALLY MEDITATED ON THE
01:59:14.380 --> 01:59:17.817
QUESTION. I APPRECIATE AND THEN
01:59:17.884 --> 01:59:21.921
THE FINAL QUESTION IS UM CAN YOU
01:59:21.988 --> 01:59:24.257
SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW YOU
01:59:24.323 --> 01:59:27.426
THINK THIS WOULD IMPACT THE
01:59:27.493 --> 01:59:31.230
ILLEGAL OR UNDERGROUND FIREARMS
01:59:31.297 --> 01:59:33.332
MARKET BECAUSE THE REALITY IS
01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:35.167
PEOPLE DO BY LEGAL FIREARMS. THE
01:59:35.234 --> 01:59:36.335
OTHER REALITY IS PEOPLE BY
01:59:36.402 --> 01:59:37.370
ILLEGAL FIREARMS AND IN MY
01:59:37.436 --> 01:59:41.474
COMMUNITY. IF YOU STOP SOMEONE,
01:59:41.541 --> 01:59:42.942
THERE IS A 50% CHANCE THAT IF
01:59:43.009 --> 01:59:45.678
YOU DO A SEARCH, ILLEGAL OR NOT
01:59:45.745 --> 01:59:48.281
, YOU MIGHT FIND A GUN AND YOU
01:59:48.347 --> 01:59:49.916
PROBABLY FIND A GUN IN CERTAIN
01:59:49.982 --> 01:59:51.350
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE
01:59:51.417 --> 01:59:52.184
GUNS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO
01:59:52.251 --> 01:59:53.152
PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST THE
01:59:53.219 --> 01:59:55.187
OTHER FOOLS OUT THERE WHO ALSO
01:59:55.254 --> 01:59:59.292
HAVE GUNS. AND IF WE ARE RAISING
01:59:59.358 --> 02:00:01.794
TAXES TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT YOU
02:00:01.861 --> 02:00:03.496
ARE IMPACTING FOLKS WHO LEGALLY
02:00:03.563 --> 02:00:07.533
DESIRE TO OWN ONE IS THERE SOME
02:00:07.600 --> 02:00:09.402
CONCERN THAT YOU WOULD PUSH,
02:00:09.468 --> 02:00:12.338
FOLKS, UM TO PURCHASING FIREARMS
02:00:12.405 --> 02:00:13.873
ILLEGALLY? IN WHICH CASE THE
02:00:13.940 --> 02:00:15.274
MAJORITY OF LAW? YOU KNOW HOW
02:00:15.341 --> 02:00:16.542
LONG ENFORCEMENT NAVIGATES THOSE
02:00:16.609 --> 02:00:19.245
SPACES. PREDOMINANTLY
02:00:19.312 --> 02:00:20.680
CRIMINALIZES BLACK AND BROWN
02:00:20.746 --> 02:00:25.284
PEOPLE. OKAY THAT'S YOU ENDED
02:00:25.351 --> 02:00:28.220
THAT WITH A GOING INTO A SPACE
02:00:28.287 --> 02:00:28.955
THAT I HAD NOT REALLY
02:00:29.021 --> 02:00:30.056
ANTICIPATED. BUT I WILL ATTEMPT
02:00:30.122 --> 02:00:34.226
TO ANSWER THIS SO THERE, I THINK
02:00:34.293 --> 02:00:34.961
ONE OF THE OPPONENTS' TALKED
02:00:35.027 --> 02:00:36.395
ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT
02:00:36.462 --> 02:00:38.230
TAXES AND FEES AND THE FEDERAL
02:00:38.297 --> 02:00:39.432
TAXES, WHICH THEY DO NOT OPPOSED
02:00:39.498 --> 02:00:41.934
BY THE WAY. UM HAS NOT
02:00:42.001 --> 02:00:43.936
POTENTIALLY PUSH PEOPLE THAT
02:00:44.003 --> 02:00:45.571
DIRECTION. I THINK THAT THE WHAT
02:00:45.638 --> 02:00:47.873
WE'VE SEEN FROM A, UH, COMMUNITY
02:00:47.940 --> 02:00:53.346
VIOLENCE. PERSPECTIVE IS THAT A
02:00:53.412 --> 02:00:54.814
LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN PUSHED INTO
02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:58.351
GHOST GUNS. WE DO TALK ABOUT
02:00:58.417 --> 02:01:00.553
TAXING PRECURSOR COMPONENT PARTS
02:01:00.620 --> 02:01:01.821
, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
02:01:01.887 --> 02:01:06.692
BUT WHAT IS WE SEE IN SIN TAXES,
02:01:06.759 --> 02:01:08.861
PARTICULARLY TOBACCO THAT YOU
02:01:08.928 --> 02:01:10.730
WANT TO ACTUALLY DECREASE USE OF
02:01:10.796 --> 02:01:11.998
SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PUTTING
02:01:12.064 --> 02:01:13.866
THAT SYNTAX ON WHILE YOU'RE ALSO
02:01:13.933 --> 02:01:14.934
COLLECTING THAT MONEY TO DO
02:01:15.001 --> 02:01:19.305
PUBLIC GOOD. SO IF THERE ARE
02:01:19.372 --> 02:01:20.539
FEWER GUNS OR LESS AMMUNITION IN
02:01:20.606 --> 02:01:24.076
SOCIETY. THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD
02:01:24.143 --> 02:01:25.678
BECAUSE THAT COULD REDUCE HARM.
02:01:25.745 --> 02:01:31.484
AH! THE. REAL I THINK MOTIVE OR
02:01:31.550 --> 02:01:33.552
NOT THE MOST ONE OF THE BENEFITS
02:01:33.619 --> 02:01:35.521
THAT WE WILL SEE WITH THIS IS
02:01:35.588 --> 02:01:36.589
THE FUNDING OF VIOLENCE
02:01:36.656 --> 02:01:40.026
PREVENTION PROGRAMS. SO IT'S NOT
02:01:40.092 --> 02:01:43.829
THAT WE'RE MAKING GUNS EXPENSIVE
02:01:43.896 --> 02:01:45.831
AND TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
02:01:45.898 --> 02:01:46.332
WHETHER BLACK OR BROWN
02:01:46.399 --> 02:01:47.867
COMMUNITIES ARE PRICED OUT OF
02:01:47.933 --> 02:01:49.869
BUYING GUNS LEGALLY. AND WHAT IS
02:01:49.935 --> 02:01:51.103
THE PURPOSE OF THEM? ARE THEY
02:01:51.170 --> 02:01:53.272
BUYING THEM TO GO HUNTING? YOU
02:01:53.339 --> 02:01:54.573
KNOW, OUR PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA
02:01:54.640 --> 02:01:56.275
GOT BUYING THEM TO GO HUNTING TO
02:01:56.342 --> 02:01:57.943
HAVE A GUN FOR PERSONAL
02:01:58.010 --> 02:01:59.779
PROTECTION OR TO DO VIOLENCE.
02:01:59.845 --> 02:02:01.447
AND SO THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION
02:02:01.514 --> 02:02:05.584
INVESTMENTS. ARE REALLY I THINK
02:02:05.651 --> 02:02:07.553
THE SILVER LINING IN WHAT WE'RE
02:02:07.620 --> 02:02:09.655
ATTEMPTING TO DO, BECAUSE THESE
02:02:09.722 --> 02:02:10.923
ARE PROVEN PROGRAMS IN
02:02:10.990 --> 02:02:12.625
COMMUNITIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA,
02:02:12.692 --> 02:02:14.093
WHERE WE SHOW PEOPLE THAT
02:02:14.160 --> 02:02:16.062
VIOLENCE IS NOT THE WAY IN GUN
02:02:16.128 --> 02:02:18.164
VIOLENCE IS NOT THE WAY IN THAT
02:02:18.230 --> 02:02:20.199
THAT INVESTMENT IS THE MOST
02:02:20.266 --> 02:02:21.300
IMPORTANT INVESTMENT BECAUSE WE
02:02:21.367 --> 02:02:23.235
ACTUALLY DO WANT TO REDUCE THE
02:02:23.302 --> 02:02:24.870
NUMBER OF GUNS IN HOMES BECAUSE
02:02:24.937 --> 02:02:26.338
WE KNOW THAT GUNS IN HOMES MEAN
02:02:26.405 --> 02:02:27.773
GREATER RATES OF SUICIDE.
02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:33.446
GREATER RIGHT RATES OF DOMESTIC. VIOLENCE LEADING TO THINGS
02:02:33.512 --> 02:02:35.114
THAT ARE BAD, GREATER RATES OF
02:02:35.181 --> 02:02:37.383
CHILDREN GETTING GUNS AND
02:02:37.450 --> 02:02:40.319
HARMING PEOPLE INADVERTENTLY. UM
02:02:40.386 --> 02:02:42.421
AND SO IF WE CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW
02:02:42.488 --> 02:02:44.590
THAT GUNS DON'T NEED TO BE A
02:02:44.657 --> 02:02:45.858
PART OF THEIR LIFE THAT THEY
02:02:45.925 --> 02:02:47.026
HAVE A GOOD FUTURE. THAT MAYBE
02:02:47.093 --> 02:02:48.861
WILL REDUCE ALL OF THE OTHER
02:02:48.928 --> 02:02:50.396
PROBLEMS, BUT ALSO WITH THE
02:02:50.463 --> 02:02:51.764
VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAM.
02:02:51.831 --> 02:02:53.332
MONEY COMING FROM THIS FUND
02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:55.401
ALLOW FOR THE GENERAL FUND TO BE
02:02:55.468 --> 02:02:57.369
USED FOR DOING ALL THE OTHER
02:02:57.436 --> 02:02:58.471
IMPORTANT THINGS WE NEED TO DO
02:02:58.537 --> 02:03:01.540
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
02:03:01.607 --> 02:03:03.242
GREAT THANK YOU FOR THAT THAT
02:03:03.309 --> 02:03:05.945
WAS CLARIFYING BECAUSE IT MAKES
02:03:06.011 --> 02:03:08.581
MORE SENSE TO ME THAT WE'RE
02:03:08.647 --> 02:03:09.682
TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO FIND
02:03:09.749 --> 02:03:14.820
WAYS. TO FUND. VIOLENCE GUN
02:03:14.887 --> 02:03:16.722
VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAMS
02:03:16.789 --> 02:03:19.458
THAN SEEING THIS AS A WAY TO GET
02:03:19.525 --> 02:03:20.893
FEWER GUNS INTO THE HANDS OF
02:03:20.960 --> 02:03:22.661
INDIVIDUALS. I DON'T THINK THIS
02:03:22.728 --> 02:03:23.929
IS GOING TO GET FEWER GUNS. I
02:03:23.996 --> 02:03:25.664
THINK THIS IS A BECAUSE YOU'RE
02:03:25.731 --> 02:03:26.899
NOT GETTING IT'S ABOUT IT'S NOT
02:03:26.966 --> 02:03:28.901
GOING TO GET FEWER GUNS. IT
02:03:28.968 --> 02:03:30.636
MIGHT GET FEWER ILLEGAL GUNS,
02:03:30.703 --> 02:03:31.270
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET FEWER
02:03:31.337 --> 02:03:33.005
GUNS. AND JUST HAVE THE GUN
02:03:33.072 --> 02:03:34.006
VIOLENCE ADVOCATES THAT ARE
02:03:34.073 --> 02:03:36.709
HERE. I WOULD ASK THAT FOLKS
02:03:36.776 --> 02:03:38.878
REALLY BE CONSIDERATE AND
02:03:38.944 --> 02:03:40.780
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE MESSAGING
02:03:40.846 --> 02:03:42.915
BECAUSE PROTECTING COMMUNITIES
02:03:42.982 --> 02:03:44.183
IS NOT A MESSAGE THAT WORKS FOR
02:03:44.250 --> 02:03:46.318
ALL COMMUNITIES. WHAT'S
02:03:46.385 --> 02:03:48.187
HAPPENING IN MY DISTRICT IS VERY
02:03:48.254 --> 02:03:49.188
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING
02:03:49.255 --> 02:03:51.724
IN ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT MIGHT
02:03:51.791 --> 02:03:52.391
BE MORE WHITE, OR THAT MIGHT BE
02:03:52.458 --> 02:03:54.160
HIGHER INCOME OR THAT MIGHT BE
02:03:54.226 --> 02:03:55.194
ANOTHER ETHNICITY. UM, IT IS
02:03:55.261 --> 02:03:58.664
REALLY HARD. AND I DON'T
02:03:58.731 --> 02:04:00.599
NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THIS, BUT
02:04:00.666 --> 02:04:02.935
THIS IS JUST A FACT. WHEN PEOPLE
02:04:03.002 --> 02:04:05.204
ARE AFRAID TO GO FROM THEIR
02:04:05.271 --> 02:04:07.273
HOUSE TO THEIR SCHOOL OR TO
02:04:07.339 --> 02:04:09.809
THEIR JOB OR TO THE PARTY.
02:04:09.875 --> 02:04:12.678
WITHOUT THE FEAR OF GETTING SHOT
02:04:12.745 --> 02:04:15.047
UP BY A KNUCKLEHEAD WHO IS OUT
02:04:15.114 --> 02:04:16.549
TO PROVE A POINT OR SAW
02:04:16.615 --> 02:04:17.817
SOMETHING ON INSTAGRAM THAT THEY
02:04:17.883 --> 02:04:21.554
DON'T LIKE. THE MESSAGING ON HOW
02:04:21.620 --> 02:04:23.055
THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS TO PROTECT
02:04:23.122 --> 02:04:25.691
ITSELF IS NOT THE SAME AS THE
02:04:25.758 --> 02:04:27.092
MESSAGING THAT WE MIGHT BE USING
02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:29.328
FOR SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES.
02:04:29.395 --> 02:04:30.896
BECAUSE THOSE INSTANCES OF
02:04:30.963 --> 02:04:32.431
VIOLENCE ARE PREDICATED ON SOME
02:04:32.498 --> 02:04:33.899
OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING
02:04:33.966 --> 02:04:35.234
DISCUSSED IN THE MESSAGING
02:04:35.301 --> 02:04:37.336
AROUND VERY GENERIC GUN VIOLENCE
02:04:37.403 --> 02:04:40.439
PREVENTION. AND SO AT THE END OF
02:04:40.506 --> 02:04:46.245
THE DAY I DO BELIEVE THAT. WE
02:04:46.312 --> 02:04:47.546
HAVE TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT
02:04:47.613 --> 02:04:51.684
HOW. CERTAIN BILLS WILL
02:04:51.750 --> 02:04:54.320
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS
02:04:54.386 --> 02:04:56.455
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES WITH VERY,
02:04:56.522 --> 02:04:58.190
VERY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
02:04:58.257 --> 02:04:59.058
THAT UNFORTUNATELY FOR US THE
02:04:59.124 --> 02:05:01.160
DEFAULT REMAINS THE CRIMINAL
02:05:01.227 --> 02:05:05.798
LEGAL SPACE. AND IT'S REALLY
02:05:05.865 --> 02:05:08.234
HARD TO SAY THIS MIGHT BE THE
02:05:08.300 --> 02:05:09.034
ONLY WAY YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO
02:05:09.101 --> 02:05:11.203
PROTECT YOUR FAMILY, BUT I'M
02:05:11.270 --> 02:05:12.071
STILL GONNA THROW YOU IN JAIL
02:05:12.137 --> 02:05:14.373
BECAUSE OF IT BECAUSE IT HAPPENS
02:05:14.440 --> 02:05:17.309
TO INVOLVE A FIREARM. SO I JUST
02:05:17.376 --> 02:05:19.411
OFFER THAT IN SOME CONTEXT
02:05:19.478 --> 02:05:22.414
BECAUSE I HAVE LOOKED AT DATA
02:05:22.481 --> 02:05:24.783
THAT SHOWS AN UPTICK IN STOPS IN
02:05:24.850 --> 02:05:30.789
ARRESTS. UM OF BLACK. PEOPLE AND
02:05:30.856 --> 02:05:32.591
BROWN PEOPLE WHO HAPPENED TO BE
02:05:32.658 --> 02:05:36.462
CARRYING BECAUSE THEY'RE LIVING
02:05:36.528 --> 02:05:38.097
IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN A BLOCK
02:05:38.163 --> 02:05:40.065
WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN LIKE SEVEN
02:05:40.132 --> 02:05:41.867
SHOOTINGS IN TWO DAYS. AND
02:05:41.934 --> 02:05:43.068
REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S RIGHT OR
02:05:43.135 --> 02:05:47.139
NOT. THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY WAY
02:05:47.206 --> 02:05:48.340
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN PROTECT
02:05:48.407 --> 02:05:50.309
THEMSELVES. THEY'RE NOT OUT TO
02:05:50.376 --> 02:05:50.976
INITIATE ANYTHING. THEY'RE
02:05:51.043 --> 02:05:52.378
TRYING TO STAY ALIVE AND KEEP
02:05:52.444 --> 02:05:54.046
THEIR CHILD ALIVE AND THERE ARE
02:05:54.113 --> 02:05:54.813
JUST DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS THAT
02:05:54.880 --> 02:05:57.750
WE NEED TO BE HAVING. AROUND HOW
02:05:57.816 --> 02:05:59.018
WE ARE PROTECTING CERTAIN
02:05:59.084 --> 02:06:00.052
COMMUNITIES, SO I KNOW I GOT ON
02:06:00.119 --> 02:06:02.821
MY SOAPBOX. I AM STILL
02:06:02.888 --> 02:06:04.590
MEDITATING FROM LAST WEEK. I
02:06:04.657 --> 02:06:06.392
APOLOGIZE, BUT I JUST WANT TO
02:06:06.458 --> 02:06:09.962
OFFER THAT AS, UM BECAUSE OTHER
02:06:10.029 --> 02:06:11.830
PEOPLE ARE LISTENING AS THOUGHTS
02:06:11.897 --> 02:06:12.965
ABOUT HOW YOU CONTINUE TO CRAFT
02:06:13.032 --> 02:06:14.466
YOUR MESSAGES AND THE CONCERT
02:06:14.533 --> 02:06:16.902
AND WHAT IS TRULY THE OUTCOME.
02:06:16.969 --> 02:06:19.238
WE HAVE TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE
02:06:19.305 --> 02:06:20.806
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEWER GUNS.
02:06:20.873 --> 02:06:23.375
PERIOD NOT FEWER LEGAL GUNS
02:06:23.442 --> 02:06:26.545
BECAUSE IT'S THE ILLEGAL GUNS.
02:06:26.612 --> 02:06:28.247
IT'S THE ILLEGAL GUNS THAT ARE
02:06:28.314 --> 02:06:35.721
KILLING MY PEOPLE. THANK YOU,
02:06:35.788 --> 02:06:38.757
SENATOR KAMLAGER. I ACTUALLY, UM
02:06:38.824 --> 02:06:40.826
I JUST WANT TO SECOND YOUR
02:06:40.893 --> 02:06:42.394
THOUGHTS ON THAT NOTION. I THINK
02:06:42.461 --> 02:06:44.263
THEY WERE VERY WELL TAKEN VERY
02:06:44.330 --> 02:06:46.799
WELL EXPRESSED. I THINK THEY CAN
02:06:46.865 --> 02:06:49.201
I GO IN LINE WITH THE WITH MY
02:06:49.268 --> 02:06:50.836
THOUGHTS AND MY QUESTIONS WITH
02:06:50.903 --> 02:06:53.105
REGARDS TO THE BILL, AND I WAS
02:06:53.172 --> 02:06:54.239
ACTUALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE
02:06:54.306 --> 02:06:57.843
FACT THAT VERY NOTED THE NUMBER
02:06:57.910 --> 02:07:00.546
OF TAXES THAT PEOPLE PAY WHEN
02:07:00.612 --> 02:07:02.948
PURCHASING A GUN AND THE CONCERN
02:07:03.015 --> 02:07:06.118
THAT I HAD, UM, WAS BASICALLY
02:07:06.185 --> 02:07:07.353
ONE OF THE ONE OF THE POINTS
02:07:07.419 --> 02:07:09.321
THAT WERE MADE. WAS THE FACT
02:07:09.388 --> 02:07:13.292
THAT NORMALLY LAW ABIDING PEOPLE
02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:15.394
ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO
02:07:15.461 --> 02:07:18.564
PURCHASE AMMUNITION OR GUNS
02:07:18.630 --> 02:07:20.366
LEGALLY, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO
02:07:20.432 --> 02:07:22.434
GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND. UM
02:07:22.501 --> 02:07:23.936
BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE GOING TO
02:07:24.003 --> 02:07:25.004
DO EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED
02:07:25.070 --> 02:07:26.305
TO BE DOING, AND THEY'RE THE
02:07:26.372 --> 02:07:28.173
ONES THAT ARE NORMALLY GOING TO,
02:07:28.240 --> 02:07:31.010
UM PAY ALL THE FEES THAT ARE
02:07:31.076 --> 02:07:34.580
REQUIRED OF THEM AND THE USUALLY
02:07:34.646 --> 02:07:36.515
AND OR SHOULD I WAS GOING TO
02:07:36.582 --> 02:07:38.150
START WITH. DO WE HAVE ANY DATA
02:07:38.217 --> 02:07:41.587
ON PEOPLE WHO COMMIT THE CRIMES
02:07:41.653 --> 02:07:43.589
AND WHETHER OR NOT HOW THEY
02:07:43.655 --> 02:07:46.992
PURCHASED. OR REQUIRED THE
02:07:47.059 --> 02:07:49.428
WEAPON THAT WAS USED WHETHER IT
02:07:49.495 --> 02:07:51.430
WAS LEGALLY BOUGHT OR WAS IT
02:07:51.497 --> 02:07:53.065
ILLEGALLY BOUGHT AND WHETHER OR
02:07:53.132 --> 02:07:57.269
NOT FEES SUCH AS THESE ACTUALLY.
02:07:57.336 --> 02:07:59.605
PENALIZE PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM ARE
02:07:59.671 --> 02:08:03.842
WE ARE WE ARE WE. IN A WAY,
02:08:03.909 --> 02:08:07.613
PENALIZING OR HAVING PEOPLE. WHO
02:08:07.679 --> 02:08:08.647
ARE LAW ABIDING THIS
02:08:08.714 --> 02:08:12.051
PROPORTIONATELY. PAINT. POOR
02:08:12.117 --> 02:08:13.752
PEOPLE WHO ARE NEFARIOUSLY
02:08:13.819 --> 02:08:15.788
PURCHASING OR ACQUIRING THE GUNS
02:08:15.854 --> 02:08:17.823
AND COMMITTING THE CRIMES. DO WE
02:08:17.890 --> 02:08:20.392
HAVE ANY DATA ON DO YOU IN THIS
02:08:20.459 --> 02:08:21.660
SPACE ON THE SOURCE OF WHERE?
02:08:21.727 --> 02:08:25.664
THAT GUN? CAME FROM WHO.
02:08:25.731 --> 02:08:27.866
PERPETRATED A CRIME YOU MAY BE
02:08:27.933 --> 02:08:30.169
ABLE TO ASK CHP OR LOCAL LAW
02:08:30.235 --> 02:08:31.737
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR THAT
02:08:31.804 --> 02:08:33.205
TYPE OF DATA. I WASN'T PREPARED
02:08:33.272 --> 02:08:34.506
FOR THAT TYPE OF QUESTION IN
02:08:34.573 --> 02:08:36.675
ADVANCE TO SEE IF WE HAD THAT,
02:08:36.742 --> 02:08:38.644
BUT LET'S JUST NOT BE CALLED TO
02:08:38.710 --> 02:08:40.345
THINK THAT, UM ILLEGAL GUNS ARE
02:08:40.412 --> 02:08:43.849
BORN IMMACULATELY. THEY'RE NOT.
02:08:43.916 --> 02:08:45.350
THEY'RE NOT JUST CONCEIVED OUT
02:08:45.417 --> 02:08:47.719
OF NOWHERE. GUNS ARE IN SOCIETY
02:08:47.786 --> 02:08:50.956
THERE EITHER PURCHASED USUALLY
02:08:51.023 --> 02:08:53.292
LEGALLY SOMEWHERE THERE LOST
02:08:53.358 --> 02:08:54.960
STOLEN PASSED ON TO SOMEONE
02:08:55.027 --> 02:08:57.696
ELSE. UM, AND SAME WITH THE
02:08:57.763 --> 02:09:01.567
AMMUNITION. AND WE KNOW WHETHER
02:09:01.633 --> 02:09:03.235
IT'S LEGAL OR PASSED ALONG OR
02:09:03.302 --> 02:09:08.440
STOLEN. THAT HAVING A GUN IS
02:09:08.507 --> 02:09:09.942
MAKES IT MUCH MORE LIKELY THAT
02:09:10.008 --> 02:09:11.076
THERE WILL BE GUN VIOLENCE.
02:09:11.143 --> 02:09:15.981
HEART STOP. IN AND I UNDERSTAND
02:09:16.048 --> 02:09:19.184
THAT I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE
02:09:19.251 --> 02:09:21.653
SURE THAT WE ARE AIMING THE
02:09:21.720 --> 02:09:27.192
INTENT OR DETERRING PEOPLE THAT
02:09:27.259 --> 02:09:29.061
ARE IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY MAKES
02:09:29.128 --> 02:09:30.496
SENSE, AND WE'RE NOT
02:09:30.562 --> 02:09:31.697
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING
02:09:31.763 --> 02:09:33.632
PEOPLE WHO ARE LAW ABIDING. SO
02:09:33.699 --> 02:09:35.834
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST SYNTAX. IF
02:09:35.901 --> 02:09:37.136
YOU JUST WANT TO USE AN EXAMPLE
02:09:37.202 --> 02:09:40.305
THAT WAS IN THE ANALYSIS. WE
02:09:40.372 --> 02:09:41.607
HAVE THAT ON ALCOHOL, TOBACCO,
02:09:41.673 --> 02:09:43.208
CELLPHONES, MATTRESSES.
02:09:43.275 --> 02:09:47.779
AUTOMOBILE TIRES. NO ONE'S
02:09:47.846 --> 02:09:49.581
CRYING ABOUT THAT ADVOCATION IS
02:09:49.648 --> 02:09:52.351
CAN BE EXPENSIVE AND HAVE COSTS
02:09:52.417 --> 02:09:54.820
AND THIS PARTICULAR HOBBY HAS
02:09:54.887 --> 02:09:55.354
NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR
02:09:55.420 --> 02:10:04.963
SOCIETY. OKAY? UM AND THEN, UM.
02:10:05.030 --> 02:10:06.131
THE OTHER THING HAVE YOU
02:10:06.198 --> 02:10:09.067
CONSIDERED ALSO, UM, DOING CARVE
02:10:09.134 --> 02:10:11.637
OUTS FOR ATHLETES OR THE PEOPLE
02:10:11.703 --> 02:10:13.305
WHO DO THIS FOR A SPORT AS A
02:10:13.372 --> 02:10:15.107
SPORT AGAIN? THIS IS AN ISSUE
02:10:15.174 --> 02:10:17.543
THAT HAS NOT ARISEN, OKAY?
02:10:17.609 --> 02:10:19.811
ALRIGHTY IT SOUNDS LIKE A OTHER
02:10:19.878 --> 02:10:21.813
POOR ATHLETES STORY LIKE WE WANT
02:10:21.880 --> 02:10:23.649
THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IT JUST
02:10:23.715 --> 02:10:24.983
HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE THAT HAS
02:10:25.050 --> 02:10:27.252
COME BEFORE US AT ALL IS A REAL
02:10:27.319 --> 02:10:28.754
ISSUE. OKAY IS THAT SOMETHING
02:10:28.820 --> 02:10:29.588
THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER IT? IF
02:10:29.655 --> 02:10:31.757
IT'S A REAL ISSUE? OF COURSE,
02:10:31.823 --> 02:10:32.391
WE'LL CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT
02:10:32.457 --> 02:10:33.525
COMES BEFORE US. OKAY PERFECT.
02:10:33.592 --> 02:10:34.893
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THAT'S
02:10:34.960 --> 02:10:35.994
FOR THE RECORD, SEEING OTHER
02:10:36.061 --> 02:10:37.362
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ARE WE
02:10:37.429 --> 02:10:41.934
GOOD? THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
02:10:42.000 --> 02:10:43.335
OKAY. THANK YOU, SENATOR
02:10:43.402 --> 02:10:45.204
KAMLAGER THAN THE MOTION HAS
02:10:45.270 --> 02:10:46.471
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR KAMLAGER
02:10:46.538 --> 02:10:53.946
AND, UM LET ME SEE. WHAT'S UP?
02:10:54.012 --> 02:10:55.614
OH WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? I
02:10:55.681 --> 02:10:56.982
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
02:10:57.049 --> 02:10:58.517
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE MOTION
02:10:58.584 --> 02:11:02.154
IS DUE PASS, BUT FIRST BE WE
02:11:02.221 --> 02:11:03.822
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE AND
02:11:03.889 --> 02:11:04.356
APPROPRIATIONS CONSULTANT.
02:11:04.423 --> 02:11:08.093
POLICE FATHER ROLE. A B 12 27
02:11:08.160 --> 02:11:13.198
BRADFORD, A TROLL BOGUE. MM. NO
02:11:13.265 --> 02:11:15.300
BUGNO KAMLAGER COME LONGER. I
02:11:15.367 --> 02:11:19.705
SKINNER WIENER. BELIEVE THE ROLE
02:11:19.771 --> 02:11:21.640
OPEN FOR OUR ABSOLUTE MEMBER.
02:11:21.707 --> 02:11:22.674
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK
02:11:22.741 --> 02:11:25.177
YOU, SENATOR KAMLAGER. AND WE DO
02:11:25.244 --> 02:11:29.014
HAVE A SECOND BILL A B 1917
02:11:29.081 --> 02:11:30.382
WHICH WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
02:11:30.449 --> 02:11:31.750
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MADAM CHAIR,
02:11:31.817 --> 02:11:33.218
MADAM CHAIR AND SENATORS. MAYBE
02:11:33.285 --> 02:11:35.220
1917 WOULD ENSURE THAT PERSONAL
02:11:35.287 --> 02:11:36.188
INFORMATION COLLECTED THROUGH
02:11:36.255 --> 02:11:39.458
CONTACT TRACING. CANNOT BE USED
02:11:39.524 --> 02:11:41.126
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.
02:11:41.193 --> 02:11:42.427
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE COVID
02:11:42.494 --> 02:11:43.962
19 PANDEMIC, THERE HAVE BEEN
02:11:44.029 --> 02:11:46.331
OVER NINE MILLION CASES OF COVID
02:11:46.398 --> 02:11:48.000
IN CALIFORNIA AND OVER 88,000
02:11:48.066 --> 02:11:49.901
PEOPLE HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF
02:11:49.968 --> 02:11:52.437
THE VIRUS. ONE OF THE STRATEGIES
02:11:52.504 --> 02:11:53.739
USED TO LIMIT THE TRANSMISSION
02:11:53.805 --> 02:11:56.375
OF COVID 19 HAS BEEN THE USE OF
02:11:56.441 --> 02:11:56.842
CONTACT TRACING, WHICH
02:11:56.908 --> 02:11:57.976
IDENTIFIES INDIVIDUALS WHO TEST
02:11:58.043 --> 02:12:00.412
POSITIVE FOR COVID AND THE
02:12:00.479 --> 02:12:01.513
INDIVIDUALS. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN
02:12:01.580 --> 02:12:03.348
IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH. MEASURES
02:12:03.415 --> 02:12:04.349
MUST BE TAKEN TO PROTECT
02:12:04.416 --> 02:12:05.550
CALIFORNIANS PERSONAL
02:12:05.617 --> 02:12:07.319
INFORMATION AND BUILD PUBLIC
02:12:07.386 --> 02:12:08.687
TRUST THAT CONTACT TRACING
02:12:08.754 --> 02:12:10.322
INFORMATION WILL NOT BE USED
02:12:10.389 --> 02:12:12.391
INAPPROPRIATELY BY A LAW
02:12:12.457 --> 02:12:13.925
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. THIS IS
02:12:13.992 --> 02:12:15.994
ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IN MINORITY
02:12:16.061 --> 02:12:17.663
AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WHO
02:12:17.729 --> 02:12:18.964
HAVE BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY
02:12:19.031 --> 02:12:20.499
IMPACTED BY COVID REPORTS OF LAW
02:12:20.565 --> 02:12:21.667
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS BEING USED
02:12:21.733 --> 02:12:24.303
TO CONDUCT CONTACT TRACING IS
02:12:24.369 --> 02:12:26.772
NOT ONLY A POOR USE OF PUBLIC
02:12:26.838 --> 02:12:27.939
RESOURCES IS INAPPROPRIATE AND
02:12:28.006 --> 02:12:29.608
ERODES PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR
02:12:29.675 --> 02:12:30.909
EFFORTS TO CONTROL THIS AND
02:12:30.976 --> 02:12:33.245
FUTURE PANDEMICS THROUGH THE USE
02:12:33.312 --> 02:12:34.746
OF CONTACT, TRACING 1917 WILL
02:12:34.813 --> 02:12:37.249
INCREASE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE. IN
02:12:37.316 --> 02:12:38.450
FUTURE CONTACT, TRACING EFFORTS
02:12:38.517 --> 02:12:39.851
AND ENSURE THAT CONTACT TRACING
02:12:39.918 --> 02:12:42.187
DATA USED IS USED ONLY FOR
02:12:42.254 --> 02:12:43.188
PUBLIC HEALTH PURPOSES ARE
02:12:43.255 --> 02:12:45.590
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
02:12:45.657 --> 02:12:48.560
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO HAVE
02:12:48.627 --> 02:12:49.428
TO. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH
02:12:49.494 --> 02:12:52.964
OUR WITNESSES. WE DO HAVE A LEAD
02:12:53.031 --> 02:12:54.866
SUPPORT WITNESS. WE HAVE JOAN
02:12:54.933 --> 02:12:57.336
PARK WITH THE BLUE CALIFORNIA
02:12:57.402 --> 02:13:00.339
ACTIONS. AND I BELIEVE SHE IS ON
02:13:00.405 --> 02:13:05.077
THE LINE. YES, I'M HERE. PLEASE
02:13:05.143 --> 02:13:11.650
PROCEED, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING
02:13:11.717 --> 02:13:13.885
SHARING COMMITTEE JOANNE PARK ON
02:13:13.952 --> 02:13:15.921
BEHALF OF BLU CALIFORNIA ACTION
02:13:15.987 --> 02:13:20.425
IN SUPPORT. MAYBE 1917 TAKES AN
02:13:20.492 --> 02:13:22.694
IMPORTANT STEP IN ENSURING THAT
02:13:22.761 --> 02:13:24.329
ALL CALIFORNIANS CAN TRUST
02:13:24.396 --> 02:13:25.630
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES AND
02:13:25.697 --> 02:13:26.998
PARTICIPATE IN IMPORTANT CONTACT
02:13:27.065 --> 02:13:30.202
RACING EFFORTS. IT IS IN LINE
02:13:30.268 --> 02:13:32.204
WITH OTHER RECENT LEGISLATIVE
02:13:32.270 --> 02:13:33.739
INITIATIVES TO MOVE PUBLIC
02:13:33.805 --> 02:13:35.407
HEALTH RESPONSES FROM THE POLICE
02:13:35.474 --> 02:13:39.211
TO NON LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES.
02:13:39.277 --> 02:13:40.479
THE CONTACT TRACING PROCESS,
02:13:40.545 --> 02:13:41.513
WHICH OFTEN INCLUDES WHO SOMEONE
02:13:41.580 --> 02:13:45.517
WAS WITH. WHEN AND WHERE CAN
02:13:45.584 --> 02:13:46.451
REVEAL SENSITIVE INFORMATION
02:13:46.518 --> 02:13:50.088
ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL. FOR EXAMPLE
02:13:50.155 --> 02:13:51.923
, CONTACT TRACING MIGHT RISK
02:13:51.990 --> 02:13:52.924
LABELING SOMEONE AS AN
02:13:52.991 --> 02:13:54.092
ASSOCIATE. I WAS SUPPOSED GAME
02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:56.695
MEMBER IDENTIFY INVOLVEMENT WITH
02:13:56.762 --> 02:13:57.896
CERTAIN POLITICAL GROUPS OR
02:13:57.963 --> 02:13:58.997
TRACK VISITS TO RELIGIOUS
02:13:59.064 --> 02:14:03.201
INSTITUTIONS. EFFECTIVE CONTACT
02:14:03.268 --> 02:14:04.936
TRACING REQUIRES HONEST AND
02:14:05.003 --> 02:14:05.871
COOPERATIVE PARTICIPATION FROM
02:14:05.937 --> 02:14:09.074
ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
02:14:09.141 --> 02:14:10.575
HOWEVER MANY IMMIGRANT
02:14:10.642 --> 02:14:11.777
COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF
02:14:11.843 --> 02:14:14.246
COLOR WHO ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY
02:14:14.312 --> 02:14:15.781
AFFECTED BY POLICE VIOLENCE AND
02:14:15.847 --> 02:14:18.250
OVER POLICING HAVE A HIGH DEGREE
02:14:18.316 --> 02:14:19.351
OF DISTRUST TOWARDS ONE FORCE
02:14:19.418 --> 02:14:22.154
MINT. THIS MEANS THAT THEY ARE
02:14:22.220 --> 02:14:23.922
LESS LIKELY TO SHARE PERSONAL
02:14:23.989 --> 02:14:27.159
INFORMATION. FURTHERMORE IT IS
02:14:27.225 --> 02:14:28.760
THOSE VERY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
02:14:28.827 --> 02:14:30.028
OFTEN HIT THE HARDEST BY
02:14:30.095 --> 02:14:31.997
COMMUNICABLE DISEASES, AS
02:14:32.063 --> 02:14:33.064
DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THE COVID
02:14:33.131 --> 02:14:37.702
19 PANDEMIC. ABSOLUTELY A B 1917
02:14:37.769 --> 02:14:38.570
SAFEGUARD AGAINST LAW
02:14:38.637 --> 02:14:40.705
ENFORCEMENT ENGAGING IN CONTACT
02:14:40.772 --> 02:14:42.274
TRACING PEOPLE ARE LIKELY TO
02:14:42.340 --> 02:14:44.443
WITHHOLD INFORMATION THAT IS
02:14:44.509 --> 02:14:44.910
NECESSARY TO CONTAIN
02:14:44.976 --> 02:14:48.413
COMMUNICABLE DISEASE OUTBREAKS.
02:14:48.480 --> 02:14:50.649
FINALLY CONTACT TRACING IS AN
02:14:50.715 --> 02:14:52.117
INAPPROPRIATE FUNCTION FOR
02:14:52.184 --> 02:14:54.419
POLICE. PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS
02:14:54.486 --> 02:14:56.755
, NOT MONSTERS ARE BEST EQUIPPED
02:14:56.822 --> 02:14:58.557
INFORMATION ABOUT THE SPREAD OF
02:14:58.623 --> 02:15:03.395
DISEASES. A B 1917 INSURANCE
02:15:03.462 --> 02:15:04.996
THAT PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSES TO
02:15:05.063 --> 02:15:06.364
COMMUNICABLE DISEASES ARE
02:15:06.431 --> 02:15:08.567
HANDLED BY THOSE BEST PREPARED
02:15:08.633 --> 02:15:10.235
TO DO SO. AND FOR THESE REASONS
02:15:10.302 --> 02:15:11.470
WE ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK
02:15:11.536 --> 02:15:14.439
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS.
02:15:14.506 --> 02:15:16.007
PARK WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH OUR
02:15:16.074 --> 02:15:17.542
SUPPORT WITNESSES HERE IN THE
02:15:17.609 --> 02:15:19.377
HEARING ROOM. DO WE HAVE ANY
02:15:19.444 --> 02:15:21.246
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF A B
02:15:21.313 --> 02:15:27.118
1917? SEEN NONE. WE'RE GOING TO
02:15:27.185 --> 02:15:30.055
NOW MOVE ON TO SUPPORTERS ON OUR
02:15:30.121 --> 02:15:32.190
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
02:15:32.257 --> 02:15:33.225
. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPTLY.
02:15:33.291 --> 02:15:35.260
INDIVIDUALS ARE WILLING TO
02:15:35.327 --> 02:15:37.629
TESTIFY IN IN SUPPORT OF A B
02:15:37.696 --> 02:15:43.869
1970. WE WILL BEGIN. IF YOU
02:15:43.935 --> 02:15:45.003
WOULD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
02:15:45.070 --> 02:15:46.705
SPEAK IN SUPPORT. PLEASE PRESS
02:15:46.771 --> 02:15:49.941
ONE BIT ZERO AT THIS TIME. OUR
02:15:50.008 --> 02:15:52.611
FIRST COMMENT IS GOING TO COME
02:15:52.677 --> 02:15:55.881
FROM 1 88 AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
02:15:55.947 --> 02:15:57.983
THIS IS LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON
02:15:58.049 --> 02:15:59.451
FROM THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
02:15:59.518 --> 02:16:00.418
DEFENDERS OF ASSOCIATION IN
02:16:00.485 --> 02:16:05.423
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND THE NEXT
02:16:05.490 --> 02:16:09.828
LINE IS 1 22, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
02:16:09.895 --> 02:16:11.096
SAMANTHA CORBIN WITH THE
02:16:11.162 --> 02:16:12.097
ELECTRONIC FRIEND. CARE
02:16:12.163 --> 02:16:13.098
FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT THANK
02:16:13.164 --> 02:16:16.935
YOU. THAT IN CHAIR AT THIS TIME
02:16:17.002 --> 02:16:19.204
WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE. THANK YOU.
02:16:19.271 --> 02:16:19.871
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM
02:16:19.938 --> 02:16:23.208
MODERATOR. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON
02:16:23.275 --> 02:16:25.911
TO WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. WE
02:16:25.977 --> 02:16:27.178
DO NOT HAVE ANY LEAD OPPOSITION
02:16:27.245 --> 02:16:30.949
WITNESSES ON RECORD. SO WE WILL
02:16:31.016 --> 02:16:32.784
CONTINUE WITH ANY WITNESSES IN
02:16:32.851 --> 02:16:34.953
OPPOSITION TO A B 1917 HERE IN
02:16:35.020 --> 02:16:43.728
THE HEARING ROOM. SEEN NONE. WE
02:16:43.795 --> 02:16:46.031
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
02:16:46.097 --> 02:16:48.266
OPPOSITION VIA OUR
02:16:48.333 --> 02:16:49.868
TELECONFERENCE SERVICES MATTER.
02:16:49.935 --> 02:16:51.436
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
02:16:51.503 --> 02:16:53.572
PROMPTLY INDIVIDUALS WILLING OR
02:16:53.638 --> 02:16:55.273
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
02:16:55.340 --> 02:17:01.646
TO A B 1917. WE'LL BEGIN. IF YOU
02:17:01.713 --> 02:17:02.781
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
02:17:02.847 --> 02:17:03.949
OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
02:17:04.015 --> 02:17:13.158
DÂN ZERO AT A TIME. ADAM SHARE
02:17:13.224 --> 02:17:15.060
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE
02:17:15.126 --> 02:17:16.661
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. THANK
02:17:16.728 --> 02:17:18.263
YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM MODERATOR.
02:17:18.330 --> 02:17:20.231
WE WANT TO THANK OUR WITNESSES
02:17:20.298 --> 02:17:23.401
IN SUPPORT WHO TESTIFIED TODAY
02:17:23.468 --> 02:17:28.840
WE WILL NOW BRING IT BACK TO OUR. TO OUR COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE
02:17:28.907 --> 02:17:32.911
COMMITTEE HEARING. I DON'T HAVE
02:17:32.978 --> 02:17:34.779
ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL MOVE THE
02:17:34.846 --> 02:17:35.947
ABILITY APPROPRIATE TIME.
02:17:36.014 --> 02:17:37.582
PERFECT THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
02:17:37.649 --> 02:17:39.084
SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
02:17:39.150 --> 02:17:41.519
QUESTIONS WILL NOW GO AHEAD,
02:17:41.586 --> 02:17:45.957
AND, UM. I GUESS MET A
02:17:46.024 --> 02:17:47.092
MODERATOR. OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO
02:17:47.158 --> 02:17:50.061
CLOSE? SORRY. THANK YOU, MADAM
02:17:50.128 --> 02:17:51.563
CHAIR. THERE'S NO OPPOSITION. I
02:17:51.630 --> 02:17:53.098
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE
02:17:53.164 --> 02:17:55.333
VERY MUCH. UM AND MADAM
02:17:55.400 --> 02:17:56.968
CONSULTING. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
02:17:57.035 --> 02:17:58.570
. WE DO HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
02:17:58.637 --> 02:18:00.739
KAMLAGER. UM AND THE MOTION IS
02:18:00.805 --> 02:18:02.440
DUE PAST. BUT FIRST WE REFERRED
02:18:02.507 --> 02:18:03.341
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
02:18:03.408 --> 02:18:10.181
APPROPRIATIONS. MAYBE 1917
02:18:10.248 --> 02:18:13.551
BRADFORD VOGUE? NO NO. KAMLAGER
02:18:13.618 --> 02:18:14.753
AYE KAMLAGER. AYE SKINNER
02:18:14.819 --> 02:18:18.590
WIENER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
02:18:18.657 --> 02:18:21.326
HAVE 11 AND WILL WE MEET WILL
02:18:21.393 --> 02:18:22.560
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
02:18:22.627 --> 02:18:23.628
MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:18:23.695 --> 02:18:37.909
THANK YOU. OKAY? WHICH. ONE
02:18:37.976 --> 02:18:47.852
EASY. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME
02:18:47.919 --> 02:18:51.156
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS. YOU WILL
02:18:51.222 --> 02:18:53.258
BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 12,
02:18:53.324 --> 02:18:56.995
MAYBE 13 14. PLEASE BEGIN AT
02:18:57.062 --> 02:18:58.763
YOUR CONVENIENCE. THANK YOU.
02:18:58.830 --> 02:18:59.831
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
02:18:59.898 --> 02:19:04.536
SENATORS. NO MAYBE 13 14 WOULD
02:19:04.602 --> 02:19:06.204
ESTABLISH THE FEATHER ALERT A
02:19:06.271 --> 02:19:08.440
SYSTEM TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC IN A
02:19:08.506 --> 02:19:10.475
TIMELY FASHION AND A NATIVE
02:19:10.542 --> 02:19:11.976
AMERICAN PERSON IS MISSING UNDER
02:19:12.043 --> 02:19:14.646
SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS
02:19:14.713 --> 02:19:17.315
SYSTEM WOULD BE SIMILAR TO OTHER
02:19:17.382 --> 02:19:18.950
NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS THAT IS
02:19:19.017 --> 02:19:20.452
CURRENTLY OPERATED BY THE
02:19:20.518 --> 02:19:21.553
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL, SUCH
02:19:21.619 --> 02:19:23.354
AS THE AMBER ALERT AND SILVER
02:19:23.421 --> 02:19:26.424
ALERT. THE CREATION OF A
02:19:26.491 --> 02:19:28.426
NOTIFICATION ALERT WAS THE TOP
02:19:28.493 --> 02:19:29.828
RECOMMENDATION OF TRIBAL LEADERS
02:19:29.894 --> 02:19:31.563
AND ADVOCATES AND, UM, A
02:19:31.629 --> 02:19:35.333
HEARING. WHEN WE HEARD AND HOW
02:19:35.400 --> 02:19:36.868
TO HEARING TO HEAR FROM THOSE
02:19:36.935 --> 02:19:38.036
FIGHTING ON THE FRONT LINES OF
02:19:38.103 --> 02:19:41.639
THIS ISSUE. A B 13 14. WOULD
02:19:41.706 --> 02:19:43.041
BRING ATTENTION AND EFFORT TO
02:19:43.108 --> 02:19:45.110
END THIS CYCLE OF VIOLENCE IN
02:19:45.176 --> 02:19:48.847
TRIBAL LANDS ACROSS CALIFORNIA.
02:19:48.913 --> 02:19:51.015
THE RATES OF MURDERED AND
02:19:51.082 --> 02:19:52.751
MISSING PEOPLE AND NATIVE
02:19:52.817 --> 02:19:54.853
AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS A SHAMEFUL
02:19:54.919 --> 02:19:57.021
TRAGEDY THAT DOES NOT RECEIVE
02:19:57.088 --> 02:19:58.123
THE SCRUTINY AND ATTENTION IT
02:19:58.189 --> 02:20:01.493
DESERVES. THE MOMENTUM TO TACKLE
02:20:01.559 --> 02:20:03.194
THIS ISSUE IS GROWING IN
02:20:03.261 --> 02:20:06.064
AMERICA. IN APRIL. WASHINGTON
02:20:06.131 --> 02:20:08.833
STATE PASSED SIMILAR LEGISLATION
02:20:08.900 --> 02:20:11.536
IN COLORADO IS ALSO CURRENTLY
02:20:11.603 --> 02:20:12.670
REVIEWING A PROPOSAL TO ENACT
02:20:12.737 --> 02:20:16.040
ITS OWN SYSTEM. THIS IS ONE STEP
02:20:16.107 --> 02:20:18.643
THAT WE CAN DO THIS YEAR, AND
02:20:18.710 --> 02:20:20.311
THIS WILL BE A STEP THAT WILL
02:20:20.378 --> 02:20:21.379
MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WITH ME
02:20:21.446 --> 02:20:25.316
TODAY. IS CHAIRPERSON OF THE
02:20:25.383 --> 02:20:26.684
SHINGLE SPRINGS BAND AND MIWOK
02:20:26.751 --> 02:20:29.420
INDIANS. REGINA COOL ARE ONE OF
02:20:29.487 --> 02:20:31.656
THE SPONSORS OF THIS PIECE OF
02:20:31.723 --> 02:20:34.192
LEGISLATION AND RONNIE HOSLER OF
02:20:34.259 --> 02:20:35.693
THE ROUND VALLEY INDIAN TRIBES
02:20:35.760 --> 02:20:36.928
WHO HAS EXPERIENCED PERSONAL
02:20:36.995 --> 02:20:44.169
TRAGEDY WITH THIS ISSUE. YEAH.
02:20:44.235 --> 02:20:45.737
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:20:45.804 --> 02:20:47.505
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DRAMAS. WE WILL
02:20:47.572 --> 02:20:48.973
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
02:20:49.040 --> 02:20:51.376
SUPPORT. WE DO HAVE OUR LEAD
02:20:51.442 --> 02:20:56.314
WITNESS, REGINA. WE ARE HERE TO
02:20:56.381 --> 02:20:57.882
, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR
02:20:57.949 --> 02:20:59.617
HAVING ME MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
02:20:59.684 --> 02:21:01.553
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. MY NAME
02:21:01.619 --> 02:21:02.487
IS REGINA CUELLAR, CHAIRWOMAN OF
02:21:02.554 --> 02:21:03.922
THE SHINGLE SPRINGS BAND OF ME
02:21:03.988 --> 02:21:06.191
WALK INDIANS. I AM PROUD TO BE
02:21:06.257 --> 02:21:08.526
HERE ON BEHALF OF MY TRIBE AND
02:21:08.593 --> 02:21:10.628
SUPPORT OF A B 1314 A LITTLE
02:21:10.695 --> 02:21:12.163
OVER A MONTH AGO AT THE MISSING
02:21:12.230 --> 02:21:13.498
AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS PERSONS
02:21:13.565 --> 02:21:14.999
EVENT HERE AT THE CAPITOL. I
02:21:15.066 --> 02:21:16.234
CALLED UPON THE LEGISLATOR TO
02:21:16.301 --> 02:21:19.304
MAKE LEGISLATURE TO MAKE TO TAKE
02:21:19.370 --> 02:21:20.839
ACTION AND ADOPT AN ALERT SYSTEM
02:21:20.905 --> 02:21:22.340
FOR MISSING INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
02:21:22.407 --> 02:21:23.808
THANK YOU TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
02:21:23.875 --> 02:21:25.476
RAMOS FOR ANSWERING THAT CALL
02:21:25.543 --> 02:21:26.811
AND IT INTRODUCING THIS COMMON
02:21:26.878 --> 02:21:28.379
SENSE BILL THAT FINALLY TAKES
02:21:28.446 --> 02:21:29.881
ACTION TO BRING HELP TO BRING TO
02:21:29.948 --> 02:21:31.015
HELP BRING MISSING INDIGENOUS
02:21:31.082 --> 02:21:34.152
PEOPLE HOME. THERE IS AN
02:21:34.219 --> 02:21:36.187
INVISIBLE EPIDEMIC GRIPPING
02:21:36.254 --> 02:21:37.755
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE
02:21:37.822 --> 02:21:39.357
UNITED STATES. NATIVE AMERICANS
02:21:39.424 --> 02:21:40.959
ACCOUNT FOR A DISPROPORTIONATE
02:21:41.025 --> 02:21:42.360
SHARE OF MISSING AND MURDERED
02:21:42.427 --> 02:21:43.862
CASES IN AMERICA. TO MAKE
02:21:43.928 --> 02:21:45.396
MATTERS WORSE, WE DO NOT EVEN
02:21:45.463 --> 02:21:47.799
HAVE RELIABLE DATA ON THE TOTAL
02:21:47.866 --> 02:21:49.133
NUMBER OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
02:21:49.200 --> 02:21:50.668
CURRENTLY LISTED AS MISSING.
02:21:50.735 --> 02:21:52.437
ULTIMATELY WHATEVER THE
02:21:52.503 --> 02:21:55.206
STATISTICS, MAYBE WE ALL MUST DO
02:21:55.273 --> 02:21:56.174
MORE TO CONFRONT THIS CRISIS
02:21:56.241 --> 02:21:58.543
WITH URGENCY. FORTUNATELY THERE
02:21:58.610 --> 02:21:59.777
ARE REAL SOLUTIONS THAT
02:21:59.844 --> 02:22:01.312
CALIFORNIA CAN IMPLEMENT. FOR
02:22:01.379 --> 02:22:02.981
EXAMPLE, ONE SOLUTION WAS JUST
02:22:03.047 --> 02:22:04.415
SIGNED INTO LAW IN WASHINGTON
02:22:04.482 --> 02:22:05.984
STATE. IT CREATED THE FIRST IN
02:22:06.050 --> 02:22:07.085
THE NATION STATEWIDE ALERT
02:22:07.151 --> 02:22:08.186
SYSTEM. WE'RE MISSING INDIGENOUS
02:22:08.253 --> 02:22:10.755
PEOPLE. THE SYSTEM NOTIFIES LAW
02:22:10.822 --> 02:22:12.223
ENFORCEMENT WHEN THERE'S A
02:22:12.290 --> 02:22:13.258
REPORT OF A MISSING INDIGENOUS
02:22:13.324 --> 02:22:15.193
PERSON AND HELPS RAISE AWARENESS
02:22:15.260 --> 02:22:16.761
THROUGH HIGHWAY READER BOARDS,
02:22:16.828 --> 02:22:18.363
THE RADIO SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL
02:22:18.429 --> 02:22:21.332
AS NEWS MEDIA, THE 1314 IS A
02:22:21.399 --> 02:22:23.001
SIMPLE BILL THAT ESSENTIALLY
02:22:23.067 --> 02:22:24.502
TAKES THE MODEL ALREADY
02:22:24.569 --> 02:22:25.503
IMPLEMENTED BY WASHINGTON AND
02:22:25.570 --> 02:22:27.805
BRINGS IT HERE TO CALIFORNIA. IT
02:22:27.872 --> 02:22:29.140
ENSURES THAT WHEN INDIGENOUS
02:22:29.207 --> 02:22:30.842
PEOPLE GO MISSING LOCAL LAW
02:22:30.909 --> 02:22:32.010
ENFORCEMENT CAN LEVERAGE THE
02:22:32.076 --> 02:22:34.545
RESOURCES OF THE HIGHWAY PATROL
02:22:34.612 --> 02:22:35.713
TO AMPLIFY THE RECOVERY EFFORTS
02:22:35.780 --> 02:22:37.882
TO HELP BRING VICTIMS HOME. IT
02:22:37.949 --> 02:22:40.184
IS A SAD REALITY THAT NATIVE
02:22:40.251 --> 02:22:40.885
COMMUNITIES EXPERIENCE A
02:22:40.952 --> 02:22:43.554
DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF LOSS
02:22:43.621 --> 02:22:45.056
, INCLUDING OUR LOSS OF OUR
02:22:45.123 --> 02:22:46.591
LAND, OUR LOSS OF OUR HISTORY,
02:22:46.658 --> 02:22:48.259
LOTS OF OUR LANGUAGE AND LOSS OF
02:22:48.326 --> 02:22:49.761
OUR CULTURE. BUT WE WILL NOT
02:22:49.827 --> 02:22:51.963
TOLERATE LOSING OUR PEOPLE ANY
02:22:52.030 --> 02:22:52.931
LONGER. WE ARE HERE TODAY.
02:22:52.997 --> 02:22:54.365
SPEAKING UP ARE MISSING BROTHERS
02:22:54.432 --> 02:22:56.301
AND SISTERS. WE ARE DEMANDING
02:22:56.367 --> 02:22:57.502
THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
02:22:57.568 --> 02:22:59.137
SPEAK UP WITH US. TO HELP FIND
02:22:59.203 --> 02:23:01.339
THEM. THIS FEATHER ALERT SYSTEM
02:23:01.406 --> 02:23:02.774
CAN BE THAT VOICE CALLING FOR
02:23:02.840 --> 02:23:04.642
HELP AND ONE OF US IS MISSING.
02:23:04.709 --> 02:23:06.177
WHILE THIS BILL IS A GOOD FIRST
02:23:06.244 --> 02:23:08.079
STEP, THERE IS STILL MUCH MORE
02:23:08.146 --> 02:23:09.881
TO DO. WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING
02:23:09.948 --> 02:23:11.115
WITH OTHER TRIBES TO DEVELOP
02:23:11.182 --> 02:23:12.817
SOLUTIONS ON THIS AND MANY OTHER
02:23:12.884 --> 02:23:14.319
ISSUES. AS WE BRING FORWARD
02:23:14.385 --> 02:23:16.220
THESE SOLUTIONS. WE DEMAND THAT
02:23:16.287 --> 02:23:17.221
STATE LAWMAKERS LISTEN TO OUR
02:23:17.288 --> 02:23:18.523
SUGGESTIONS AND REGULARLY
02:23:18.589 --> 02:23:19.590
REGULARLY CONSULT WITH OUR
02:23:19.657 --> 02:23:22.493
SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS. ON HOW TO
02:23:22.560 --> 02:23:24.662
BEST PROTECT OUR PEOPLE. THE
02:23:24.729 --> 02:23:25.964
TRIBES ARE WILLING TO COME
02:23:26.030 --> 02:23:27.198
TOGETHER AND PUT IN THE WORK AND
02:23:27.265 --> 02:23:29.434
WE ASK THE SAME FROM THE STATE
02:23:29.500 --> 02:23:30.969
WHILE I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
02:23:31.035 --> 02:23:32.103
THE SHINGLES SPRINGS SPAN AND WE
02:23:32.170 --> 02:23:33.171
WALK INDIANS, THIS IS A
02:23:33.237 --> 02:23:35.006
NATIONWIDE CRISIS. CALIFORNIA
02:23:35.073 --> 02:23:36.107
HAS ONE OF THE LARGEST
02:23:36.174 --> 02:23:37.442
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES POPULATIONS.
02:23:37.508 --> 02:23:38.509
YOUR VOTE TODAY WILL HELP
02:23:38.576 --> 02:23:40.378
CALIFORNIA SOLVED. IT'S PIECE OF
02:23:40.445 --> 02:23:41.946
THIS NATIONAL CRISIS. WE ARE
02:23:42.013 --> 02:23:44.515
PROUD TO SUPPORT A B 1314. AND
02:23:44.582 --> 02:23:45.750
WE URGE YES. VOTE TODAY. THANK
02:23:45.817 --> 02:23:50.455
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS
02:23:50.521 --> 02:23:52.490
SQUARE. WE DO HAVE A SECOND
02:23:52.557 --> 02:23:54.359
WITNESS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND
02:23:54.425 --> 02:23:55.426
WITNESS, AND THAT'S RONNIE.
02:23:55.493 --> 02:24:02.133
MANNY HODLER. HUSTLER. UM, THIS
02:24:02.200 --> 02:24:06.838
IS. FROM RONNIE HOSLER FROM THE
02:24:06.904 --> 02:24:10.074
AROUND VALLEY TRIBE. I'M HERE
02:24:10.141 --> 02:24:12.076
WITH MY WIFE, LADY AND MY
02:24:12.143 --> 02:24:13.378
DAUGHTER, CONNIE, WITH MOTHER OF
02:24:13.444 --> 02:24:14.946
THE ROAD IN BRITAIN, WHO WAS
02:24:15.013 --> 02:24:18.282
STILL MEETING. I'M MY MAIN
02:24:18.349 --> 02:24:23.054
CONCERNS. TO BE HERE TODAY IS TO
02:24:23.121 --> 02:24:25.356
TALK ABOUT HER INVESTIGATION.
02:24:25.423 --> 02:24:27.025
THERE'S A BIG THERE'S A LOT OF
02:24:27.091 --> 02:24:28.693
MISSING POINT IN HER
02:24:28.760 --> 02:24:31.062
INVESTIGATION. NOT ALL STARTS
02:24:31.129 --> 02:24:32.096
WITH THE MENDOCINO COUNTY
02:24:32.163 --> 02:24:35.600
SHERIFF DEPARTMENT. THE TWO
02:24:35.666 --> 02:24:37.068
PEOPLE THAT STARTED OUT WITH US
02:24:37.135 --> 02:24:38.870
WITH SHANNON BARNEY AND TOM
02:24:38.936 --> 02:24:40.772
ALLMAN. THOSE TWO THOSE TWO
02:24:40.838 --> 02:24:46.477
DIDN'T. REALLY PAY TOO MUCH
02:24:46.544 --> 02:24:49.313
ATTENTON OR THEIR URGENCY WAS
02:24:49.380 --> 02:24:51.816
NOT WAS VERY LACKING TO HELP US.
02:24:51.883 --> 02:24:53.785
OUR GRANDDAUGHTER. WHO WAS BEAT
02:24:53.851 --> 02:24:58.756
UP. A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, OR
02:24:58.823 --> 02:25:00.691
MAYBE MORE OR LESS DAYS. BEFORE
02:25:00.758 --> 02:25:04.062
SHE WENT MISSING. SHE BROUGHT A
02:25:04.128 --> 02:25:06.164
STATEMENT. BUT STATEMENT WAS NO
02:25:06.230 --> 02:25:07.698
GOOD BECAUSE SHE RECANTED
02:25:07.765 --> 02:25:08.800
BECAUSE FAMILY MEMBERS
02:25:08.866 --> 02:25:10.701
THREATENED HER, SO SHE RECANTED.
02:25:10.768 --> 02:25:14.806
SO SHE WOULDN'T WANT TO. HAS THE
02:25:14.872 --> 02:25:16.841
SKY PUT BACK IN JAIL FOR BEATING
02:25:16.908 --> 02:25:19.544
HER UP, SO SHE GET AWAY WITH
02:25:19.610 --> 02:25:24.182
THIS STATEMENT. BUT IN 1/7 OF
02:25:24.248 --> 02:25:30.188
FEBRUARY AT A PARTY. SHE, UH
02:25:30.254 --> 02:25:31.556
JUST GO. I WENT AFTER HER. HE
02:25:31.622 --> 02:25:33.524
WENT TO THE HOUSE. SHE HID IN A
02:25:33.591 --> 02:25:34.992
BATHROOM. HE CAME BACK WITH A
02:25:35.059 --> 02:25:41.933
PISTOL. THE HOUSE BELONGED TO A
02:25:41.999 --> 02:25:44.669
RELATIVE THAN HE. HE WROTE A
02:25:44.735 --> 02:25:45.903
STATEMENT. HE DESCRIBED THE
02:25:45.970 --> 02:25:52.577
PISTOL. TO THE POLICE. THE NEAR
02:25:52.643 --> 02:25:53.711
IN THE TURBO. OTHER WITNESSES
02:25:53.778 --> 02:25:55.580
WERE THERE THAT ROAD STATEMENTS
02:25:55.646 --> 02:25:57.415
AND THE NEXT DAY MY DAUGHTER
02:25:57.482 --> 02:26:00.618
CAME AND SAID HE JUST MISSING.
02:26:00.685 --> 02:26:02.420
MY FIRST ANYTHING WAS CALLED THE
02:26:02.487 --> 02:26:05.289
CALL THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT. BUT
02:26:05.356 --> 02:26:10.294
FROM. THOSE PEOPLE THAT RECANTED
02:26:10.361 --> 02:26:12.029
THEIR STATEMENTS BECAUSE THEY
02:26:12.096 --> 02:26:13.297
WERE THREATENED BY FAMILY
02:26:13.364 --> 02:26:16.467
MEMBERS OF THE OF THIS GUY. AND
02:26:16.534 --> 02:26:19.737
I KNOW WHO HE IS. SO THEN I WAS
02:26:19.804 --> 02:26:22.440
TOLD BY STRATTON BARNEY. HE WAS
02:26:22.507 --> 02:26:24.742
HE WAS THE LEAD INVESTIGATOR AT
02:26:24.809 --> 02:26:28.813
THAT TIME. HE SAID. HE KNEW WHO
02:26:28.880 --> 02:26:30.448
THREATENED THEM, SO THAT'S WHY
02:26:30.515 --> 02:26:32.049
THEY RE CAN AND SO THERE WAS
02:26:32.116 --> 02:26:33.184
NOTHING THEY COULD DO. NOTHING I
02:26:33.251 --> 02:26:35.186
COULD DO THERE SO FROM THE
02:26:35.253 --> 02:26:39.023
SEVENTH OF FEBRUARY, THE 19TH OF
02:26:39.090 --> 02:26:43.794
FEBRUARY. I HEARD THROUGH THE
02:26:43.861 --> 02:26:45.163
GRAPEVINE OUT OF FAMILY MEMBER
02:26:45.229 --> 02:26:47.064
CALLED AND TOLD WORDS THIS GUY
02:26:47.131 --> 02:26:50.635
WAS SO THEY TRIBAL, PLEASE. AT
02:26:50.701 --> 02:26:51.869
THAT TIME WE HAD SIX TRIBAL
02:26:51.936 --> 02:26:54.739
POLICE AND ROUND VALLEY. TWO OR
02:26:54.805 --> 02:26:56.607
THREE OF THEM WERE RELATED TO
02:26:56.674 --> 02:26:59.544
THIS GUY. SO THEY WENT DOWN AND
02:26:59.610 --> 02:27:01.179
HE WAS WAITING FOR THEM WITH ALL
02:27:01.245 --> 02:27:03.014
HIS GUNS, SO THEY TOOK HIM IN
02:27:03.080 --> 02:27:07.985
FOR GUNS. WE, UH. WASN'T TOO
02:27:08.052 --> 02:27:10.288
LONG. AFTER THAT. WE HAD A, UH
02:27:10.354 --> 02:27:12.857
THEY DECIDED TO CHARGE HIM WITH
02:27:12.924 --> 02:27:14.091
A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FOR BEATING
02:27:14.158 --> 02:27:18.296
HER UP. THERE WAS A STATEMENT
02:27:18.362 --> 02:27:21.499
WRITTEN BY HER TO A DEPUTY, AND
02:27:21.566 --> 02:27:23.334
HE READ THE STATEMENT AND IN
02:27:23.401 --> 02:27:25.236
COURT. NOW THAT'S SOMETHING I
02:27:25.303 --> 02:27:28.272
DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE MR.
02:27:28.339 --> 02:27:30.775
BARNEY TOLD ME THAT THEY CAN DO
02:27:30.841 --> 02:27:32.143
NOTHING BECAUSE SHE RECANTED HER
02:27:32.210 --> 02:27:34.245
STATEMENT. BUT THEN AGAIN, HERE
02:27:34.312 --> 02:27:35.346
COMES THE STATEMENT THAT SHE
02:27:35.413 --> 02:27:38.082
WROTE. AND WAS READING WRITTEN.
02:27:38.149 --> 02:27:44.722
IT WAS IN COURT. WE. MR HUSTLE A
02:27:44.789 --> 02:27:46.958
THE D. A. HAD US GO DOWN THERE
02:27:47.024 --> 02:27:48.159
MAYBE MONTH AND A HALF EVERY
02:27:48.226 --> 02:27:51.362
WEEK. TO WATCH THEM. TRYING TO
02:27:51.429 --> 02:27:53.397
CONVICT HIM OF DOMESTIC
02:27:53.464 --> 02:27:58.903
VIOLENCE. MR HASLER. I AM SO
02:27:58.970 --> 02:28:00.871
SORRY TO INTERRUPT AT THIS TIME
02:28:00.938 --> 02:28:02.640
, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, WE
02:28:02.707 --> 02:28:03.841
HAVE A TIME LIMITATION OF
02:28:03.908 --> 02:28:05.076
BETWEEN TWO AND THREE MINUTES,
02:28:05.142 --> 02:28:06.143
DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PREVIOUS
02:28:06.210 --> 02:28:09.513
OUR CHAIR. UM ACTUALLY HAS FOR A
02:28:09.580 --> 02:28:12.550
MAIN TESTIMONIES. MEET WITNESSES
02:28:12.617 --> 02:28:14.552
. WOULD YOU MIND IN THE NEXT
02:28:14.619 --> 02:28:17.021
MINUTE JUST SUMMARIZING THE
02:28:17.088 --> 02:28:18.923
INTENT AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE
02:28:18.990 --> 02:28:20.758
BILL THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT
02:28:20.825 --> 02:28:21.792
MR. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS HAS
02:28:21.859 --> 02:28:26.264
HERE TODAY. OKAY WELL, I
02:28:26.330 --> 02:28:27.365
APOLOGIZE PRETTY MUCH. WHAT I
02:28:27.431 --> 02:28:33.037
HAVE TO SAY IS I AM. WE WERE ALL
02:28:33.104 --> 02:28:35.439
A LETTER TO THE TWO ALMOND TO
02:28:35.506 --> 02:28:36.641
TRY TO GET BRING IN MORE
02:28:36.707 --> 02:28:37.808
RESOURCES TO HELP. BUT THAT
02:28:37.875 --> 02:28:39.143
DIDN'T HAPPEN SO THAT'S JUST
02:28:39.210 --> 02:28:41.712
WHAT I WANT TO SAY. I'M JUST
02:28:41.779 --> 02:28:42.913
MORE CONCERNED GETTING HELP WITH
02:28:42.980 --> 02:28:47.952
THE INVESTIGATION. TEXTURE THANK
02:28:48.019 --> 02:28:49.186
YOU VERY MUCH TESTIMONY FOR
02:28:49.253 --> 02:28:52.957
BEING HERE TODAY. APPRECIATE IT.
02:28:53.024 --> 02:28:55.059
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES
02:28:55.126 --> 02:28:59.130
IN SUPPORT OF A B 13 14 HERE IN
02:28:59.196 --> 02:29:04.302
OUR HEARING ROOM, PLEASE BEGIN.
02:29:04.368 --> 02:29:06.704
HILLY HILLY. MY NAME IS JANET
02:29:06.771 --> 02:29:08.205
QUÊ. BILL I'M THE CHAIRPERSON
02:29:08.272 --> 02:29:09.173
FOR THE PICKING RANCHERIA. THE
02:29:09.240 --> 02:29:10.808
CHECK CHANCY INDIANS, WHICH IS A
02:29:10.875 --> 02:29:11.776
FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBE,
02:29:11.842 --> 02:29:12.777
LOCATED IN COARSEGOLD,
02:29:12.843 --> 02:29:14.745
CALIFORNIA. I SUPPORT THIS
02:29:14.812 --> 02:29:16.881
FEATHER ALERT, AND I HOPE THAT
02:29:16.947 --> 02:29:21.085
YOU SUPPORT A B 1314 THANK YOU.
02:29:21.152 --> 02:29:28.993
QUÊ. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK
02:29:29.060 --> 02:29:31.395
YOU FOR HAVING ME ON TODAY. MY
02:29:31.462 --> 02:29:33.097
NAME IS THOMAS TORTOISE JUNIOR.
02:29:33.164 --> 02:29:34.365
I'M THE CHAIRMAN FOR THE TOWARDS
02:29:34.432 --> 02:29:37.134
MARTINEZ DESERT KOREA IN THE
02:29:37.201 --> 02:29:38.969
PALM SPRINGS AREA WE HAVE OVER
02:29:39.036 --> 02:29:42.073
1000 MEMBER TRIBE DOWN THERE.
02:29:42.139 --> 02:29:44.709
AND I'M HERE TO STRONGLY SUPPORT
02:29:44.775 --> 02:29:47.578
A B 1314 AND I STRONGLY URGE
02:29:47.645 --> 02:29:57.321
YOUR YES. VOTE. THANK YOU. YEAH. MY NAME IS MY NAME IS LUIS
02:29:57.388 --> 02:29:58.289
WHIP ON THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE
02:29:58.356 --> 02:29:59.357
BRAND WELL, INDIAN TRIBES
02:29:59.423 --> 02:30:02.126
LOCATED IN MEDICINE. OH COUNTY.
02:30:02.193 --> 02:30:03.594
I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE SUPPORT
02:30:03.661 --> 02:30:04.729
THE TRAVEL COUNCIL SUPPORTS
02:30:04.795 --> 02:30:07.798
ABBEY 13 14. INDIGENOUS LIVES
02:30:07.865 --> 02:30:13.971
MATTER. THANK YOU. WANNA KNOW I
02:30:14.038 --> 02:30:18.342
WANNA ON CASH. HI HELLO. MY NAME
02:30:18.409 --> 02:30:20.010
IS ANGELINA HINOJOSA AND ARM
02:30:20.077 --> 02:30:21.879
SUPPORT 13 14. MY TRIBE IS
02:30:21.946 --> 02:30:26.717
PERSONALLY WILL CULMINATION.
02:30:26.784 --> 02:30:29.353
HELLO MY NAME IS ELIANA MASSOUDA
02:30:29.420 --> 02:30:30.287
. I'M FROM THE MEANWHILE TRIBE
02:30:30.354 --> 02:30:37.194
AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF, UM 13 14.
02:30:37.261 --> 02:30:40.197
YEAH HELLO. I'M LISA GALLEY PIT
02:30:40.264 --> 02:30:42.800
RIVER NATION FAMILY BAND, AND
02:30:42.867 --> 02:30:44.835
I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF A B 13
02:30:44.902 --> 02:30:51.675
14. THANK YOU. SUNWAY. MY NAME'S
02:30:51.742 --> 02:30:53.577
MORNINGSTAR GALLEY, A MEMBER OF
02:30:53.644 --> 02:30:55.546
THE PIT RIVER TRIBE. PROJECT
02:30:55.613 --> 02:30:56.480
DIRECTOR WITH RESTORING JUSTICE
02:30:56.547 --> 02:30:57.882
FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES FULLY IN
02:30:57.948 --> 02:30:59.950
SUPPORT OF THE 13 14. THANK YOU.
02:31:00.017 --> 02:31:05.322
HMM. OH YEAH, WE MY NAME IS
02:31:05.389 --> 02:31:07.658
APRIL MCGILL. I AM YUKI FROM
02:31:07.725 --> 02:31:09.727
ROUND VALLEY. I'M ALSO THE
02:31:09.794 --> 02:31:10.761
DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY
02:31:10.828 --> 02:31:12.396
PARTNERSHIPS AND PROJECTS AT THE
02:31:12.463 --> 02:31:13.397
CALIFORNIA CONSORTIUM FOR URBAN
02:31:13.464 --> 02:31:16.434
INDIAN HEALTH. WITH OUR RED
02:31:16.500 --> 02:31:17.435
WOMEN RISING PROJECTS SUPPORTING
02:31:17.501 --> 02:31:22.840
THIS BILL, SO THANK YOU.
02:31:22.907 --> 02:31:25.810
MEASURES TO MY NAME IS DD MANSON
02:31:25.876 --> 02:31:27.545
ODYSSEY, BARA TRIBAL CHAIR OF
02:31:27.611 --> 02:31:29.814
ROOM CINEMA TO THE BALONEY. I'M
02:31:29.880 --> 02:31:34.618
IN FULL SUPPORT OF A B 13 14.
02:31:34.685 --> 02:31:36.487
FEATHER ALERT. THE FASTER WE
02:31:36.554 --> 02:31:38.189
FIND OUR WOMEN, THE FASTER WE
02:31:38.255 --> 02:31:40.057
GET THEM HOME. I MEAN, FULL
02:31:40.124 --> 02:31:45.029
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
02:31:45.095 --> 02:31:45.796
COMMITTEE SERGEANT JULIO
02:31:45.863 --> 02:31:46.630
GIULIANI, REPRESENTING THE
02:31:46.697 --> 02:31:47.498
RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
02:31:47.565 --> 02:31:48.466
DEPARTMENT. AND SHERIFF, CHAD
02:31:48.532 --> 02:31:54.505
BIANCO. AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
02:31:54.572 --> 02:31:55.973
SANTA MONICA. MY NAME IS LETICIA
02:31:56.040 --> 02:31:58.476
AGUILAR. I'M A MEMBER OF PANEL
02:31:58.542 --> 02:31:59.877
EVIL PUMMEL NATION ON THE
02:31:59.944 --> 02:32:01.378
FOUNDER OF NATIVE SISTERS,
02:32:01.445 --> 02:32:01.946
CIRCLE YOUTH GROUP PARENTS,
02:32:02.012 --> 02:32:03.113
SACRAMENTO AND ALSO WORKING WITH
02:32:03.180 --> 02:32:06.183
NATIVE DAD'S NETWORK. AND I AM A
02:32:06.250 --> 02:32:11.522
STRONG, SUPPORTIVE BABY 13 14.
02:32:11.589 --> 02:32:13.624
YOU KNOW MY NAME IS GINA SHOVEL.
02:32:13.691 --> 02:32:18.462
UM LANGUAGE RESERVATION, AND I
02:32:18.529 --> 02:32:23.434
SUPPORT THIS BILL. MY NAME IS
02:32:23.501 --> 02:32:24.969
ELENA SANCHEZ. I'M A PART OF
02:32:25.035 --> 02:32:26.003
VOTING RENTERIA TRIBE AND I
02:32:26.070 --> 02:32:29.707
SUPPORT THIS BILL. OKAY MAYBE
02:32:29.773 --> 02:32:33.210
I'M A MAGICIAN, EQUILON. UM
02:32:33.277 --> 02:32:35.379
HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS
02:32:35.446 --> 02:32:37.014
BONNIE COLLECT AND I'M THE
02:32:37.081 --> 02:32:38.282
PRESIDENT OF THE STRONG, HARDER,
02:32:38.349 --> 02:32:39.316
NATIVE WOMAN'S COALITION. I AM
02:32:39.383 --> 02:32:40.317
AN ENROLLED MEMBER OF THE POEM,
02:32:40.384 --> 02:32:42.853
A BAND OF LOOSE SONY INDIANS.
02:32:42.920 --> 02:32:44.355
AND TODAY I'M HERE IN SUPPORT AS
02:32:44.421 --> 02:32:45.456
A TRIBAL MEMBER. AND HE WAS
02:32:45.523 --> 02:32:47.958
SOMEONE WHO IS OUR COMMUNITY IS
02:32:48.025 --> 02:32:49.860
CURRENTLY SUFFERING A YOUNG
02:32:49.927 --> 02:32:51.762
CHILD WHO WAS RAN AWAY AT 16
02:32:51.829 --> 02:32:53.898
YEARS OLD AND WE'RE NOT GETTING
02:32:53.964 --> 02:32:55.366
ASSISTANCE. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
02:32:55.432 --> 02:32:56.367
IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS
02:32:56.433 --> 02:32:57.601
HABIT TO THIS HAPPENED TODAY. SO
02:32:57.668 --> 02:32:59.803
I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 13
02:32:59.870 --> 02:33:06.510
14. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
02:33:06.577 --> 02:33:08.045
HELENA ALEXANDER. I'M AN
02:33:08.112 --> 02:33:09.580
ENROLLED MEMBER OF MORE TOWN
02:33:09.647 --> 02:33:11.181
RANCHERIA OF MY DO INDIANS OF
02:33:11.248 --> 02:33:13.584
CALIFORNIA, AND I'M HERE IN
02:33:13.651 --> 02:33:14.685
SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY BILL 1314.
02:33:14.752 --> 02:33:22.359
THANK YOU. MIRIAM BELOW ACNE,
02:33:22.426 --> 02:33:24.228
TIMOTHY ROSE OF THE QUEER BAND
02:33:24.295 --> 02:33:30.868
OF INDIANS AND SUPPORT A B 1314.
02:33:30.935 --> 02:33:32.102
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS, COREY
02:33:32.169 --> 02:33:33.170
SOESILO ON BEHALF OF THE
02:33:33.237 --> 02:33:34.204
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFF'S
02:33:34.271 --> 02:33:38.342
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT.
02:33:38.409 --> 02:33:39.543
BALLISTIC OC ON BEHALF OF CRIME
02:33:39.610 --> 02:33:40.644
SERVICES, SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND
02:33:40.711 --> 02:33:44.448
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR
02:33:44.515 --> 02:33:45.449
AND MEMBERS, FRANK MOLINA ON
02:33:45.516 --> 02:33:47.017
BEHALF OF THE SALMON WILL
02:33:47.084 --> 02:33:48.152
ABANDON MISSION INDIANS IN THE
02:33:48.218 --> 02:33:49.286
SAND IN HIS SPANISH YOU
02:33:49.353 --> 02:33:51.956
MENTIONED IS IN STRONG SUPPORT.
02:33:52.022 --> 02:33:54.959
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM I THINK
02:33:55.025 --> 02:33:56.460
THAT IS ALL THE WITNESSES THAT
02:33:56.527 --> 02:33:58.228
WE HAVE HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM
02:33:58.295 --> 02:34:00.831
ON THAT MOVE ON TO OUR WITNESSES
02:34:00.898 --> 02:34:02.833
IN SUPPORT OF A B 13 14 WHO WISH
02:34:02.900 --> 02:34:03.300
TO TESTIFY. THE HOUR
02:34:03.367 --> 02:34:05.970
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE. MADAM
02:34:06.036 --> 02:34:07.471
MARIA. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
02:34:07.538 --> 02:34:09.840
PROMPTLY. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
02:34:09.907 --> 02:34:11.408
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A B 13 14.
02:34:11.475 --> 02:34:16.280
WE WILL BE AGAIN. THANK YOU. IF
02:34:16.347 --> 02:34:17.948
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
02:34:18.015 --> 02:34:23.220
SUPPORT OF 80 13 14 STARTED.
02:34:23.287 --> 02:34:30.794
ZERO BY 1 49. 1 49. YOUR LINE IS
02:34:30.861 --> 02:34:36.467
OPEN. ONTARIO POLICE OFFICER IN
02:34:36.533 --> 02:34:38.068
THE CITY OF RICHMOND. THANKS FOR
02:34:38.135 --> 02:34:40.537
THAT, MR AND THE PRESIDENT OF
02:34:40.604 --> 02:34:42.940
OUR P O A AND ORDER DIRECTOR ON
02:34:43.007 --> 02:34:43.941
POOR ACT, LET'S SPEAK OUT HIS
02:34:44.008 --> 02:34:46.877
FAVORITE STEW. INDIAN COUNTRY
02:34:46.944 --> 02:34:48.312
FOR FAR TOO LONG HAS HAD TOO
02:34:48.379 --> 02:34:49.913
LITTLE RESOURCES. THIS WOULD BE
02:34:49.980 --> 02:34:51.882
IN ADDITION TO THE PRESS. VERY
02:34:51.949 --> 02:34:52.916
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IN THE
02:34:52.983 --> 02:34:59.690
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. NO
02:34:59.757 --> 02:35:06.430
FURTHER. PLEASE CONTINUE. I'M
02:35:06.497 --> 02:35:07.531
SORRY, MADAME MURDER MERCURY.
02:35:07.598 --> 02:35:08.599
DID YOU SAY THERE WERE NO
02:35:08.666 --> 02:35:10.801
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES? YES, THANK
02:35:10.868 --> 02:35:14.138
YOU. PLEASE CONTINUE. THANK YOU
02:35:14.204 --> 02:35:15.939
VERY MUCH, MADAM. MODERATING. I
02:35:16.006 --> 02:35:17.608
APOLOGIZE. YOU WERE SENDING A
02:35:17.675 --> 02:35:21.879
LITTLE, UM UM, DISTORTED. UM SO
02:35:21.945 --> 02:35:23.547
HAVING NO ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
02:35:23.614 --> 02:35:26.684
IN SUPPORT OF A B 13 14. WE WILL
02:35:26.750 --> 02:35:27.918
NOW CONTINUE WITH WITNESSES IN
02:35:27.985 --> 02:35:29.620
OPPOSITION. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY
02:35:29.687 --> 02:35:31.121
LEAD. OPPOSITION AND WITNESSES
02:35:31.188 --> 02:35:33.390
ON RECORD WILL CONTINUE WITH
02:35:33.457 --> 02:35:35.626
WITNESS WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
02:35:35.693 --> 02:35:37.261
TO HB 13 14 HERE IN THE HEARING
02:35:37.327 --> 02:35:44.268
ROOM. SEE NONE WILL NOW CONTINUE
02:35:44.334 --> 02:35:45.736
TO WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO A
02:35:45.803 --> 02:35:48.772
B 13 14 TELECONFERENCE SERVICES
02:35:48.839 --> 02:35:50.040
. MADAM MODERATOR, IF YOU WOULD
02:35:50.107 --> 02:35:51.175
PLEASE PROMPT INDIVIDUALS
02:35:51.241 --> 02:35:52.009
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
02:35:52.076 --> 02:35:53.977
OPPOSITION. TO MAYBE 13 14. WE
02:35:54.044 --> 02:35:59.283
WILL BEGIN. THANK YOU IF YOU
02:35:59.349 --> 02:36:00.350
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
02:36:00.417 --> 02:36:01.885
OPPOSITION OF BABY 13. EXCUSE
02:36:01.952 --> 02:36:13.764
ME. 13 14 STARTING ZERO. NOT
02:36:13.831 --> 02:36:15.032
SEEING ANY OF THE OPPOSITION.
02:36:15.099 --> 02:36:18.535
PLEASE CONTINUE. THANK YOU VERY
02:36:18.602 --> 02:36:19.503
MUCH, MADAM MODERATOR WILL NOW
02:36:19.570 --> 02:36:21.338
BRING IT BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE
02:36:21.405 --> 02:36:25.309
MEMBERS. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU
02:36:25.375 --> 02:36:26.243
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR BRINGING
02:36:26.310 --> 02:36:29.680
THIS BILL FORWARD, SO WHY ARE
02:36:29.747 --> 02:36:30.981
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S NOT
02:36:31.048 --> 02:36:36.653
CURRENTLY. INCORPORATED INTO THE
02:36:36.720 --> 02:36:41.091
AMBER ALERT AND THE SILVER ALERT
02:36:41.158 --> 02:36:42.960
SYSTEMS. THANK YOU FOR THAT
02:36:43.026 --> 02:36:46.463
QUESTION. SENATOR GOES, UM IN
02:36:46.530 --> 02:36:47.431
THE HISTORICAL ASPECT, ALSO
02:36:47.498 --> 02:36:48.532
DURING THE COLONIZATION AND
02:36:48.599 --> 02:36:51.735
DIFFERENT LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN
02:36:51.802 --> 02:36:53.337
PUT ON THE BOOKS THAT MANY OF
02:36:53.403 --> 02:36:54.972
THE LAWS AND JURISDICTIONS WERE
02:36:55.038 --> 02:36:57.274
NOT, UM, ORIGINALLY SET UP TO
02:36:57.341 --> 02:36:58.642
PROTECT THE CALIFORNIA'S FIRST
02:36:58.709 --> 02:37:00.310
PEOPLE, NATIVE AMERICANS, IT WAS
02:37:00.377 --> 02:37:02.713
THE REVERSE. TO PROTECT OTHERS
02:37:02.780 --> 02:37:05.249
FROM NATIVE AMERICANS. SO THEN,
02:37:05.315 --> 02:37:06.750
AS THINGS CONTINUE TO MOVE
02:37:06.817 --> 02:37:08.819
FORWARD, THIS IS JUST ONE
02:37:08.886 --> 02:37:10.287
COMPONENT THAT HAS BEEN PLAGUING
02:37:10.354 --> 02:37:12.055
INDIAN COUNTRY FOR MANY YEARS,
02:37:12.122 --> 02:37:13.390
BUT NOW IT'S RAISING TO THE
02:37:13.457 --> 02:37:15.392
LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO PRESENT
02:37:15.459 --> 02:37:16.627
TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT THE ISSUE
02:37:16.693 --> 02:37:18.762
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT. YOU
02:37:18.829 --> 02:37:20.430
HEARD FROM SOME OF THE TESTIMONY
02:37:20.497 --> 02:37:21.465
THAT THERE STILL IS THAT
02:37:21.532 --> 02:37:23.867
JURISDICTIONAL DIVIDE OF OTHERS
02:37:23.934 --> 02:37:25.869
, UM, NOT INVESTIGATING THESE
02:37:25.936 --> 02:37:29.807
ISSUES WHOLEHEARTEDLY. HERE IN
02:37:29.873 --> 02:37:31.408
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WE'RE
02:37:31.475 --> 02:37:33.744
NUMBER SEVEN WITH UNSOLVED
02:37:33.811 --> 02:37:34.778
MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS
02:37:34.845 --> 02:37:39.750
WOMEN CASES THAT GO. UNATTENDED
02:37:39.817 --> 02:37:40.584
TOO. SO THIS IS THINGS THAT
02:37:40.651 --> 02:37:43.053
CONTINUE TO PLAGUE CALIFORNIA'S
02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:44.788
FIRST PEOPLE IN THE NATION, BUT
02:37:44.855 --> 02:37:46.089
IT GOES BACK TO UNDERSTANDING
02:37:46.156 --> 02:37:49.993
THAT THERE IS THAT DIVISION WHEN
02:37:50.060 --> 02:37:51.161
IT COMES TO SOME OF THE
02:37:51.228 --> 02:37:53.263
JURISDICTIONAL AREAS, OTHER
02:37:53.330 --> 02:37:54.298
THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE
02:37:54.364 --> 02:37:56.633
HEARING THAT WE HAD ON MAY 2ND
02:37:56.700 --> 02:37:58.836
WAS JURISDICTIONAL DIVIDE. WHO
02:37:58.902 --> 02:38:00.003
IS THE ONE THAT IS TO ENFORCE
02:38:00.070 --> 02:38:02.105
AND IS THEIR WORKABILITY? IS
02:38:02.172 --> 02:38:03.607
THERE THINGS WORKING TOGETHER
02:38:03.674 --> 02:38:05.209
THROUGH THAT JURISDICTION OR
02:38:05.275 --> 02:38:07.344
JUST WHEN IT COMES TO A FEDERAL
02:38:07.411 --> 02:38:09.346
INDIAN RESERVATION, DO OTHER
02:38:09.413 --> 02:38:11.849
JURISDICTIONS? DISENGAGE WE KNOW
02:38:11.915 --> 02:38:14.351
THAT THERE IS MUTUAL RESPECT AND
02:38:14.418 --> 02:38:15.619
CERTAIN AREAS IN THE STATE OF
02:38:15.686 --> 02:38:17.554
CALIFORNIA THAT WORK TOGETHER.
02:38:17.621 --> 02:38:19.122
BUT WE KNOW THE STATE HAS TO
02:38:19.189 --> 02:38:21.992
STILL GO A LONG WAY TO ENSURE
02:38:22.059 --> 02:38:24.361
THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY
02:38:24.428 --> 02:38:26.063
FOR ALL THAT THE NATIVE AMERICAN
02:38:26.129 --> 02:38:27.164
POPULATION IS PART OF THAT
02:38:27.231 --> 02:38:29.666
DISCUSSION. YOU HEARD FROM TWO
02:38:29.733 --> 02:38:31.401
OF THE TESTIMONY AND ONE OF THEM
02:38:31.468 --> 02:38:32.970
MEET TWOS THAT THEY STILL HAVE
02:38:33.036 --> 02:38:35.572
FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE MISSING
02:38:35.639 --> 02:38:37.040
. THE FBI HAS DECLARED IT
02:38:37.107 --> 02:38:38.675
MISSING PERSONS, BUT LOCAL
02:38:38.742 --> 02:38:40.043
JURISDICTION HAS NOT. WHY IS
02:38:40.110 --> 02:38:41.211
THAT DIVIDE THERE? THESE ARE
02:38:41.278 --> 02:38:44.548
ISSUES. THAT WHILE WE'RE IN THE
02:38:44.615 --> 02:38:45.382
LEGISLATURE, WE'RE GOING TO
02:38:45.449 --> 02:38:46.917
UNRAVEL AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING
02:38:46.984 --> 02:38:48.452
RESOLVE TO IT. BUT IT'S ALSO
02:38:48.518 --> 02:38:49.820
DEALING WITH THE TOUGH ISSUES
02:38:49.887 --> 02:38:51.521
THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED LIKE
02:38:51.588 --> 02:38:53.390
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. IT'S
02:38:53.457 --> 02:38:56.326
NOT JUST ABOUT WHY AREN'T THEY
02:38:56.393 --> 02:38:57.861
BEING INVESTIGATED? THERE'S A
02:38:57.928 --> 02:39:00.230
BIG DISCONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE
02:39:00.297 --> 02:39:02.432
THAT FILL THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
02:39:02.499 --> 02:39:04.368
OR NOT TO ENGAGE, AND WE THINK
02:39:04.434 --> 02:39:06.637
THAT'S AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE
02:39:06.703 --> 02:39:08.906
FURTHER LOOKED AT. SO IS IT AN
02:39:08.972 --> 02:39:10.974
AUTOMATIC OPT IN FOR ALL TRIBAL
02:39:11.041 --> 02:39:13.877
COMMUNITIES OR SO HOW WOULD THIS
02:39:13.944 --> 02:39:16.446
WORK BECAUSE NOW WILL TAKE INTO
02:39:16.513 --> 02:39:17.547
THE FRAMEWORK EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
02:39:17.614 --> 02:39:19.816
TALKING ABOUT. KEPT THE STATE OF
02:39:19.883 --> 02:39:20.984
CALIFORNIA NOW WORKING WITH A
02:39:21.051 --> 02:39:22.886
CALIFORNIA HIGH PATROL SYSTEM IS
02:39:22.953 --> 02:39:24.521
NOW SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING
02:39:24.588 --> 02:39:26.223
THAT SHOULD BE DONE. AND NOW
02:39:26.290 --> 02:39:27.224
WITH THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
02:39:27.291 --> 02:39:28.926
PATROL THROUGH THIS BILL WILL BE
02:39:28.992 --> 02:39:31.461
ABLE TO ENACT ON ALERT SYSTEM, A
02:39:31.528 --> 02:39:32.930
FEATHER ALERT SYSTEM THAT
02:39:32.996 --> 02:39:34.364
WORKING WITH THE TRAVEL
02:39:34.431 --> 02:39:35.232
COMMUNITIES. THE TRIBAL CHAIRS.
02:39:35.299 --> 02:39:36.733
WE'RE SPEAKING HERE TODAY WHEN
02:39:36.800 --> 02:39:38.168
SOMEONE GOES MISSING. IT'S NOT
02:39:38.235 --> 02:39:39.269
ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER, FOUR
02:39:39.336 --> 02:39:41.772
WEEKS LATER. IT'S IMMEDIATELY TO
02:39:41.838 --> 02:39:43.440
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREVENTING
02:39:43.507 --> 02:39:46.276
PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM ACTUALLY
02:39:46.343 --> 02:39:47.744
BEING MURDERED, WHICH IS A HIGH
02:39:47.811 --> 02:39:48.612
STATISTIC WITHIN THE NATIVE
02:39:48.679 --> 02:39:50.514
AMERICAN COMMUNITY. SO NOW THIS
02:39:50.580 --> 02:39:52.883
IS A CHANCE. TO BE ABLE TO START
02:39:52.950 --> 02:39:54.418
TO SEE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
02:39:54.484 --> 02:39:55.953
MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT
02:39:56.019 --> 02:39:57.421
RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE HAVE THE
02:39:57.487 --> 02:39:58.989
SUPPORT TO GET THAT DONE. BUT
02:39:59.056 --> 02:40:01.959
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEIR
02:40:02.025 --> 02:40:04.194
SOVEREIGN NATIONS. THE QUESTION
02:40:04.261 --> 02:40:06.563
IS, IS THERE AN AUTOMATIC OPT IN
02:40:06.630 --> 02:40:08.732
FOR ALL TRIBAL COMMUNITIES? OR
02:40:08.799 --> 02:40:10.167
DOES CHP IN THE STATE HAVE TO
02:40:10.233 --> 02:40:12.302
WORK WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL?
02:40:12.369 --> 02:40:16.239
TRIBAL FAMILY OR TRIBAL COUNCIL
02:40:16.306 --> 02:40:19.443
, OR HOW HOW DO TRIBAL
02:40:19.509 --> 02:40:21.378
COMMUNITIES THEN GET INTEGRATED
02:40:21.445 --> 02:40:23.180
INTO THE SYSTEM ON THE
02:40:23.246 --> 02:40:24.715
GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT BASIS?
02:40:24.781 --> 02:40:25.983
IT WOULD BE THE INDIVIDUAL
02:40:26.049 --> 02:40:27.050
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS THAT WOULD
02:40:27.117 --> 02:40:29.219
THEN CALL OUT TO THEIR LOCAL, UM
02:40:29.286 --> 02:40:30.988
LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE POLICE,
02:40:31.054 --> 02:40:32.322
TRIBAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS THEY
02:40:32.389 --> 02:40:34.157
HAVE THAT THEN WOULD BE ABLE TO
02:40:34.224 --> 02:40:35.625
CALL ON THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
02:40:35.692 --> 02:40:36.994
PATROL TO IMPLEMENT THE ALERT
02:40:37.060 --> 02:40:38.595
SYSTEM. SO THERE ARE SOME TRIBAL
02:40:38.662 --> 02:40:40.664
COMMUNITIES THAT COULD SAY I
02:40:40.731 --> 02:40:41.798
DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
02:40:41.865 --> 02:40:43.600
FEATHER ALERT. IT'S UP TO THE
02:40:43.667 --> 02:40:45.068
GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT TO BE
02:40:45.135 --> 02:40:47.037
ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE
02:40:47.104 --> 02:40:48.138
THIS IMPLEMENTED FOR THE ALERT
02:40:48.205 --> 02:40:49.272
SYSTEM TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK
02:40:49.339 --> 02:40:55.612
YOU. SO ACTUALLY. YOU'VE BEEN ON
02:40:55.679 --> 02:40:57.080
POINT TODAY WITH THE COMMENTS
02:40:57.147 --> 02:40:58.248
THAT YOU HAVE BEEN MAKING
02:40:58.315 --> 02:40:59.583
BECAUSE THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME
02:40:59.649 --> 02:41:01.585
THOUGHT PROCESS THAT I WERE
02:41:01.651 --> 02:41:02.753
HAVING. I THINK, UM, JUST FOR
02:41:02.819 --> 02:41:04.788
THE RECORD, I THINK THIS JUST
02:41:04.855 --> 02:41:06.957
ALLOWS THE ABILITY OF PUTS IN
02:41:07.024 --> 02:41:10.027
STATUTE THE ABILITY FOR OUR LAW
02:41:10.093 --> 02:41:11.928
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BE ABLE
02:41:11.995 --> 02:41:13.964
TO COOPERATE WITH THE NATIVE
02:41:14.031 --> 02:41:14.564
INDIGENOUS SOVEREIGN NATIONS,
02:41:14.631 --> 02:41:18.335
UM, WITH REGARD TO CREATING THIS
02:41:18.402 --> 02:41:21.438
AMBARELLA LORD, BECAUSE RIGHT
02:41:21.505 --> 02:41:22.906
NOW, WITH THE SOVEREIGN NATIONS
02:41:22.973 --> 02:41:25.575
IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND ASSUMING IT
02:41:25.642 --> 02:41:27.811
IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THEY ARE
02:41:27.878 --> 02:41:29.980
AUTONOMOUS. RIGHT IN SOME, SOME
02:41:30.047 --> 02:41:31.415
TRIBES ACTUALLY HAD THEIR OWN
02:41:31.481 --> 02:41:32.416
POLICING POWERS. IS THAT
02:41:32.482 --> 02:41:35.852
CORRECT? SO THAT'S PART OF THE
02:41:35.919 --> 02:41:37.721
WHOLE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, THE
02:41:37.788 --> 02:41:38.889
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS A PUBLIC
02:41:38.955 --> 02:41:41.391
LAW 2 80 SYSTEM. UM AND SO IT'S
02:41:41.458 --> 02:41:43.226
UNDER THAT PUBLIC LAW, AND UNDER
02:41:43.293 --> 02:41:44.294
THAT PUBLIC LAW, THERE IS
02:41:44.361 --> 02:41:46.797
JURISDICTION. THAT DOES ASSERT
02:41:46.863 --> 02:41:48.465
ITSELF WITHIN TRIBAL LANDS. BUT
02:41:48.532 --> 02:41:49.966
THERE'S ALSO THE POWER OF OTHERS
02:41:50.033 --> 02:41:52.869
TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE TRIBAL
02:41:52.936 --> 02:41:54.304
ORDINANCES WITHIN TRIBAL
02:41:54.371 --> 02:41:55.238
COMMUNITIES. EACH GOVERNMENT
02:41:55.305 --> 02:41:56.306
GOVERNMENT IS A LITTLE BIT
02:41:56.373 --> 02:41:59.576
DIFFERENT. AND THAT LIES TO THE
02:41:59.643 --> 02:42:02.279
QUESTION AS FAR AS WHY DO WE
02:42:02.345 --> 02:42:03.580
HAVE TO HAVE AN ALERT SYSTEM FOR
02:42:03.647 --> 02:42:05.582
NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE
02:42:05.649 --> 02:42:06.116
STATE OF CALIFORNIA? IT'S
02:42:06.183 --> 02:42:07.217
BECAUSE OF THAT LACK OF
02:42:07.284 --> 02:42:07.617
UNDERSTANDING THAT
02:42:07.684 --> 02:42:10.387
JURISDICTIONAL DIVIDE ON OUR
02:42:10.454 --> 02:42:12.956
RESERVATION, THE SEMINAR TRIBAL
02:42:13.023 --> 02:42:14.724
GOVERNMENT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE
02:42:14.791 --> 02:42:16.226
THIS HAPPENS, WE REACH OUT
02:42:16.293 --> 02:42:17.828
THROUGH OUR OWN NETWORK. BUT
02:42:17.894 --> 02:42:19.629
THEN WE ALSO REACH OUT TO THE
02:42:19.696 --> 02:42:20.630
SAN MARTINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S
02:42:20.697 --> 02:42:24.000
DEPARTMENT. THEN MOVES FORWARD.
02:42:24.067 --> 02:42:26.069
A LOT OF TRIBES AND RURAL AREAS
02:42:26.136 --> 02:42:28.438
DON'T HAVE THAT MUTUAL
02:42:28.505 --> 02:42:31.007
RELATIONSHIP AS WE ENJOY SO EACH
02:42:31.074 --> 02:42:32.008
RESERVATION, EACH TRIBAL
02:42:32.075 --> 02:42:35.779
GOVERNMENT HAS ITS OWN WAY OF
02:42:35.846 --> 02:42:37.948
BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SAFETY AND
02:42:38.014 --> 02:42:39.182
THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR
02:42:39.249 --> 02:42:40.517
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD LIKE
02:42:40.584 --> 02:42:43.720
TO SAY THAT LIKE WE ENJOY A GOOD
02:42:43.787 --> 02:42:44.821
RELATIONSHIP THAT THAT'S
02:42:44.888 --> 02:42:46.456
SYNONYMOUS WITH THE STATE OF
02:42:46.523 --> 02:42:47.624
CALIFORNIA AND CALIFORNIA'S
02:42:47.691 --> 02:42:49.593
FIRST PEOPLE, BUT WE KNOW THAT
02:42:49.659 --> 02:42:51.361
IT'S NOT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO
02:42:51.428 --> 02:42:53.597
COME TOGETHER WITH THESE BILLS
02:42:53.663 --> 02:42:54.664
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING
02:42:54.731 --> 02:42:56.633
ABOUT THAT AND BUILDING BETTER
02:42:56.700 --> 02:42:58.635
RELATIONSHIPS. AND ON THIS BILL
02:42:58.702 --> 02:42:59.636
, YOU'VE SEEN TRIBAL LEADERS
02:42:59.703 --> 02:43:01.037
COME FORWARD. YOU'VE SEEN SOME
02:43:01.104 --> 02:43:02.372
OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY
02:43:02.439 --> 02:43:03.607
COME FORWARD ALSO TO SUPPORT
02:43:03.673 --> 02:43:05.575
THIS BECAUSE THERE'S GENUINELY
02:43:05.642 --> 02:43:09.112
WILLINGNESS NOW TO SIT DOWN AT
02:43:09.179 --> 02:43:11.815
THOSE DIFFERENCES BECAUSE INDIAN
02:43:11.882 --> 02:43:13.183
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING ON
02:43:13.250 --> 02:43:15.385
THESE ISSUES FOR MANY YEARS.
02:43:15.452 --> 02:43:16.219
IT'S JUST NOW THAT IS RIGHT
02:43:16.286 --> 02:43:18.321
RAISING ROSE INTO THE LEVEL TO
02:43:18.388 --> 02:43:19.923
BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS BILL TO
02:43:19.990 --> 02:43:21.491
THIS COMMITTEE AND TALK ABOUT
02:43:21.558 --> 02:43:23.393
THESE ISSUES THAT CONTINUALLY
02:43:23.460 --> 02:43:24.628
FACE THE CALIFORNIA INDIAN
02:43:24.694 --> 02:43:27.631
PEOPLE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
02:43:27.697 --> 02:43:28.965
DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONAL. THAT'S
02:43:29.032 --> 02:43:31.168
THERE. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE
02:43:31.234 --> 02:43:32.602
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS, EACH FAIRLY
02:43:32.669 --> 02:43:34.171
RECOGNIZED TRIBE HAS ITS OWN
02:43:34.237 --> 02:43:35.672
GOVERNMENT AND IN THAT OWN
02:43:35.739 --> 02:43:36.606
GOVERNMENT HAS GOVERNMENT TO
02:43:36.673 --> 02:43:37.874
GOVERNMENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH
02:43:37.941 --> 02:43:38.642
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND
02:43:38.708 --> 02:43:41.978
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WITH THE
02:43:42.045 --> 02:43:43.880
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
02:43:43.947 --> 02:43:46.316
SO THIS FEATHER ALERT STARTS TO
02:43:46.383 --> 02:43:48.485
PAVE THE WAY IT DOESN'T SOLVE
02:43:48.552 --> 02:43:49.953
IT, BUT STARTS TO ADVOCACY FOR
02:43:50.020 --> 02:43:52.088
MANY A LOT OF WORK THAT STILL
02:43:52.155 --> 02:43:53.290
NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE COMING
02:43:53.356 --> 02:43:55.926
YEARS. PERFECT AND THEN JUST FOR
02:43:55.992 --> 02:43:57.727
CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, ASSEMBLY
02:43:57.794 --> 02:44:01.331
MEMBER RAMOS FOR THE RECORD. IT
02:44:01.398 --> 02:44:03.733
STARTS WITH THE LOCAL, UM LOCAL
02:44:03.800 --> 02:44:04.768
TRIBES INFORMING THE LAW
02:44:04.834 --> 02:44:08.738
ENFORCEMENT'S THAT, UM.
02:44:08.805 --> 02:44:10.207
INDIGENOUS PERSON HAS GONE
02:44:10.273 --> 02:44:11.274
MISSING RIGHT IS CHARACTERIZED
02:44:11.341 --> 02:44:15.312
TO ACTUALLY START TO HAVE THE
02:44:15.378 --> 02:44:17.581
VOICE COMING FROM THE INDIAN
02:44:17.647 --> 02:44:18.848
COMMUNITY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
02:44:18.915 --> 02:44:20.517
NOT THE OTHER WAY. WE'RE LAW
02:44:20.584 --> 02:44:21.351
ENFORCEMENT. NOW IS THE VOICE
02:44:21.418 --> 02:44:22.118
DRIVING TO THE TRIBAL
02:44:22.185 --> 02:44:23.086
COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE THE
02:44:23.153 --> 02:44:26.056
GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT. IN THE
02:44:26.122 --> 02:44:28.258
TRIBAL COUNCILS AND THEIR WITH
02:44:28.325 --> 02:44:29.759
ALL TO REACH OUT NOW IT'S THEIR
02:44:29.826 --> 02:44:31.861
VOICE THAT'S FINALLY BEING HEARD
02:44:31.928 --> 02:44:33.029
. PERFECT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:44:33.096 --> 02:44:35.265
MEMBER RAMOS. OUT. WOULD YOU
02:44:35.332 --> 02:44:40.003
LIKE TO MOVE? WITH THE BILL.
02:44:40.070 --> 02:44:41.037
THANK YOU, SENATOR KAMLAGER. WE
02:44:41.104 --> 02:44:44.341
HAVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ALMOST
02:44:44.407 --> 02:44:45.976
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, BUT
02:44:46.042 --> 02:44:47.444
THANK YOU AND JUST BE, YOU KNOW,
02:44:47.510 --> 02:44:48.912
THIS DISCUSSION SHOWS HOW MUCH
02:44:48.979 --> 02:44:51.147
IS STILL NEEDED TO EDUCATE THOSE
02:44:51.214 --> 02:44:52.682
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND
02:44:52.749 --> 02:44:53.950
EVEN THE LEGISLATURE ON THE
02:44:54.017 --> 02:44:55.619
ISSUES THAT DRASTICALLY IMPACT
02:44:55.685 --> 02:44:56.820
CALIFORNIA'S FIRST PEOPLE AND
02:44:56.886 --> 02:44:58.722
THE PEOPLE ACROSS THIS NATION
02:44:58.788 --> 02:45:01.258
THAT STILL BATTLE WITH A VOICE
02:45:01.324 --> 02:45:02.459
THAT NEEDS TO BE HEARD IN THE
02:45:02.525 --> 02:45:03.893
CIRCLES WHEN THE DEBATES START
02:45:03.960 --> 02:45:04.995
TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I
02:45:05.061 --> 02:45:07.297
ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU
02:45:07.364 --> 02:45:09.232
VERY MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
02:45:09.299 --> 02:45:11.635
RAMOS. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
02:45:11.701 --> 02:45:12.402
SENATOR KAMLAGER AND THE MOTION
02:45:12.469 --> 02:45:14.604
IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST WE REFER
02:45:14.671 --> 02:45:15.038
TO THE COMMITTEE AND
02:45:15.105 --> 02:45:15.572
APPROPRIATIONS CONSULTANT.
02:45:15.639 --> 02:45:20.277
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ÁP 13 14
02:45:20.343 --> 02:45:23.313
BRADFORD AT COBO GPI ROBO GUY
02:45:23.380 --> 02:45:24.347
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER, AYE SKINNER
02:45:24.414 --> 02:45:28.451
WIENER. WE HAVE TWO VOTES AND
02:45:28.518 --> 02:45:30.754
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
02:45:30.820 --> 02:45:31.821
MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:45:31.888 --> 02:45:36.726
SOME OF THEM ARE ALMOST. OKAY
02:45:36.793 --> 02:45:38.295
WE'LL TAKE A RACES UNTIL 1 30
02:45:38.361 --> 02:45:52.075
TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:45:52.142 --> 02:45:56.546
PUBLIC SAFETY WILL NOW BEGIN.
02:45:56.613 --> 02:45:59.482
WELCOME EVERYONE. HOPE YOU HAD A
02:45:59.549 --> 02:46:04.087
NICE LUNCH. WE WILL NOW PROCEED
02:46:04.154 --> 02:46:05.588
. WE HAVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
02:46:05.655 --> 02:46:07.991
GIBSON HERE TODAY, SO WE'LL
02:46:08.058 --> 02:46:09.659
BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 13 A. B
02:46:09.726 --> 02:46:12.228
16 OH, EIGHT. YOU MAY PROCEED
02:46:12.295 --> 02:46:20.704
WHEN READY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
02:46:20.770 --> 02:46:23.506
MADAM CHAIR AND I WOULD SAY
02:46:23.573 --> 02:46:26.843
MEMBERS, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:46:26.910 --> 02:46:27.544
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
02:46:27.610 --> 02:46:30.013
ASSEMBLY BILL 16 OH EIGHT, WHICH
02:46:30.080 --> 02:46:31.881
SEEKS TO SEPARATE CORNERS OFFICE
02:46:31.948 --> 02:46:33.616
FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN
02:46:33.683 --> 02:46:35.785
COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE.
02:46:35.852 --> 02:46:38.288
BEFORE I BEGIN, I AM ACCEPTING
02:46:38.355 --> 02:46:41.091
AMENDMENTS UPON OR FROM THE
02:46:41.157 --> 02:46:43.493
SENATE, GOV. AND FINANCE THAT
02:46:43.560 --> 02:46:47.063
SIMPLY PROVIDES A COUNTIES. WITH
02:46:47.130 --> 02:46:48.998
MORE TIME TO SEPARATE.
02:46:49.065 --> 02:46:51.468
CALIFORNIA IS CURRENTLY ONE OF
02:46:51.534 --> 02:46:53.570
THE ONLY THREE STATES STILL
02:46:53.636 --> 02:46:55.939
ALLOWING COUNTIES TO COMBINE THE
02:46:56.005 --> 02:46:57.741
OFFICE OF THE CORNER AND
02:46:57.807 --> 02:47:01.978
SHERIFFS. FOR YEARS WE HAVE WE
02:47:02.045 --> 02:47:03.446
HAVE WITNESSED FAR TOO MANY
02:47:03.513 --> 02:47:05.582
TRAGEDIES AND PATTERNS OF
02:47:05.648 --> 02:47:07.984
INCONSISTENCIES BECAUSE SHERIFFS
02:47:08.051 --> 02:47:09.686
ARE ALLOWED TO OVERSEE CAUSE OF
02:47:09.753 --> 02:47:14.624
DEATH RULINGS. THIS HAS RESULTED
02:47:14.691 --> 02:47:18.795
IN BIASES. MEDICAL
02:47:18.862 --> 02:47:22.232
INVESTIGATIONS, UM THROUGH TIME
02:47:22.298 --> 02:47:24.601
AND TIME AGAIN. ASSEMBLY BILL 16
02:47:24.667 --> 02:47:26.736
. OH, EIGHT, WILL PUT CALIFORNIA
02:47:26.803 --> 02:47:28.705
IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE
02:47:28.772 --> 02:47:30.607
STATES THAT HAVE ALREADY
02:47:30.673 --> 02:47:32.942
ADVANCED A SIMILAR PIECE OF
02:47:33.009 --> 02:47:34.110
LEGISLATION LIKE THE ONE THAT'S
02:47:34.177 --> 02:47:36.479
BEFORE YOU TODAY. IN CALIFORNIA
02:47:36.546 --> 02:47:39.482
, 10 COUNTIES ARE ALREADY DOING
02:47:39.549 --> 02:47:40.683
WHAT ASSEMBLY BILL 16 OH EIGHT,
02:47:40.750 --> 02:47:43.853
IS SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH. I AM
02:47:43.920 --> 02:47:45.355
PROUD TO SAY THAT THE LOS
02:47:45.422 --> 02:47:47.724
ANGELES THE LOS ANGELES SAN
02:47:47.791 --> 02:47:49.659
FRANCISCO COUNTY ARE PROUD
02:47:49.726 --> 02:47:51.494
SUPPORTERS OF THIS MEASURE. BOTH
02:47:51.561 --> 02:47:55.432
OF THESE COUNTIES. ALSO HAVE
02:47:55.498 --> 02:47:57.100
SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED
02:47:57.167 --> 02:47:58.168
INDEPENDENT OR HAVE INDEPENDENT
02:47:58.234 --> 02:48:00.103
FUNCTIONS. IN DECEMBER OF LAST
02:48:00.170 --> 02:48:04.774
YEAR. ANGELO QUINTO. THE UNITED
02:48:04.841 --> 02:48:06.876
STATES. VETERAN FOR NORTHERN
02:48:06.943 --> 02:48:08.978
CALIFORNIA. WAS TRAGICALLY
02:48:09.045 --> 02:48:14.017
KILLED. BY POLICE. IN ANGELO
02:48:14.083 --> 02:48:18.588
CUENTOS CASE. EIGHT MONTHS AFTER
02:48:18.655 --> 02:48:21.558
HIS DEATH, THE CONGRESS COST A
02:48:21.624 --> 02:48:25.195
COUNTY CORNER'S ISSUED A REPORT.
02:48:25.261 --> 02:48:26.996
AND THE RULING THAT THE DEATH
02:48:27.063 --> 02:48:28.898
WAS ACCIDENTAL. AND LISTED THE
02:48:28.965 --> 02:48:33.603
CAUSE OF DEATH. AS DEATH FROM
02:48:33.670 --> 02:48:36.105
EXCITED DELIRIUM. EXCITED
02:48:36.172 --> 02:48:43.046
DELIRIUM. EXCITED DELIRIUM. THE
02:48:43.112 --> 02:48:45.081
TERM, EXCITED DELIRIUM HAS BEEN
02:48:45.148 --> 02:48:46.783
REJECTED BY THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
02:48:46.850 --> 02:48:48.618
ASSOCIATION, THE WORLD HEALTH
02:48:48.685 --> 02:48:49.886
ORGANIZATION AND THE AMERICAN
02:48:49.953 --> 02:48:53.022
PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION. THIS
02:48:53.089 --> 02:48:56.226
TERM HAS BEEN REJECTED TIME AND
02:48:56.292 --> 02:48:57.961
TIME AGAIN BY THE MEDICAL
02:48:58.027 --> 02:48:59.095
COMMUNITY IN THIS STATE AND
02:48:59.162 --> 02:49:02.031
AROUND THIS COUNTRY. YET IT IS
02:49:02.098 --> 02:49:03.500
STILL BEING USED BY LAW
02:49:03.566 --> 02:49:04.434
ENFORCEMENT TO EXPLAIN THEIR
02:49:04.501 --> 02:49:07.370
CERTAIN DEATHS ARE CURRENTS BY
02:49:07.437 --> 02:49:09.239
POLICE BY INDIVIDUALS WHO PASSED
02:49:09.305 --> 02:49:11.841
IN POLICE CUSTODY. AND SO IN SAN
02:49:11.908 --> 02:49:15.612
JOAQUIN COUNTY. IT TOOK A VERY
02:49:15.678 --> 02:49:18.348
PUBLIC PUBLIC UNDERSCORE PUBLIC
02:49:18.414 --> 02:49:20.717
EMBARRASSMENT WHERE RESULTING IN
02:49:20.783 --> 02:49:22.252
THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER'S
02:49:22.318 --> 02:49:24.888
OFFICE AND THE MEDICAL EXAMINER
02:49:24.954 --> 02:49:28.024
OF THE STAFF TO ALL RESIGN. IN
02:49:28.091 --> 02:49:33.029
THAT COUNTY. OVER NINE MONTHS,
02:49:33.096 --> 02:49:34.731
PERIOD, THE CHIEF MEDICAL
02:49:34.797 --> 02:49:38.501
EXAMINER'S DOCUMENTED COUNTLESS
02:49:38.568 --> 02:49:40.169
EXAMPLES OF AUTOPSIES THAT THEY
02:49:40.236 --> 02:49:43.540
PERFORMED. THIS DOCUMENTATION
02:49:43.606 --> 02:49:46.476
INCLUDES AND INSTEAD INSTEAD
02:49:46.543 --> 02:49:49.412
WHEN THE SHERIFF WAS FORCING THE
02:49:49.479 --> 02:49:50.613
CORNER STAFF TO CHANGE THE
02:49:50.680 --> 02:49:53.983
RULINGS. ACCORDING TO THE
02:49:54.050 --> 02:49:54.984
DOCUMENTATION. IN SOME CASES
02:49:55.051 --> 02:49:57.620
THEY FELT PRESSURED. BY THE
02:49:57.687 --> 02:50:05.361
SHERIFF TO DO SO. SENATOR. WITH
02:50:05.428 --> 02:50:08.197
ME TO PROVIDE SUPPORTING
02:50:08.264 --> 02:50:10.366
TESTIMONIES IS MR GEORGE ORSBORN
02:50:10.433 --> 02:50:11.267
, WHO'S A FORMER HOMICIDE
02:50:11.334 --> 02:50:15.972
INVESTIGATOR? AND IS THE UNION
02:50:16.039 --> 02:50:18.341
OF AMERICAN PHYSICIANS AND
02:50:18.408 --> 02:50:21.110
DENSEST WHO BE HERE TO TESTIFY
02:50:21.177 --> 02:50:22.512
IN SUPPORT OF 16. OH, EIGHT,
02:50:22.579 --> 02:50:26.082
ALSO IN PERSON. IS CASSANDRA
02:50:26.149 --> 02:50:28.484
CAIN TOE COLLINS, THE MOTHER OF
02:50:28.551 --> 02:50:30.353
ANGELO QUINTO, WHO WAS THE
02:50:30.420 --> 02:50:31.287
UNITED STATES VETERANS WHO LOST
02:50:31.354 --> 02:50:34.624
HIS LIFE. A FEW YEARS AGO AT THE
02:50:34.691 --> 02:50:39.829
HANDS OF POLICE. THANK YOU VERY
02:50:39.896 --> 02:50:42.865
MUCH. GIBSON WE WILL NOW BEGIN
02:50:42.932 --> 02:50:45.001
WITH OUR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
02:50:45.068 --> 02:50:45.635
AND AS YOU MENTIONED WILL BEGIN
02:50:45.702 --> 02:50:47.570
WITH MR GEORGE OSBOURNE. THANK
02:50:47.637 --> 02:50:53.343
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. UM
02:50:53.409 --> 02:50:54.677
GEORGE OSBORNE, REPRESENTING THE
02:50:54.744 --> 02:50:55.712
UNION OF AMERICAN PHYSICIANS AND
02:50:55.778 --> 02:50:59.582
DENTISTS ASKED ME LOCAL 206. UM
02:50:59.649 --> 02:51:01.584
PD IS A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF HB
02:51:01.651 --> 02:51:03.653
16. OH EIGHT, AND WE
02:51:03.720 --> 02:51:04.754
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT
02:51:04.821 --> 02:51:08.358
FOR THIS MEASURE. MAYBE 16 OH,
02:51:08.424 --> 02:51:09.859
EIGHT, PROMOTES JUST AND
02:51:09.926 --> 02:51:12.161
UNBIASED INVESTIGATIONS BY
02:51:12.228 --> 02:51:13.463
SEPARATING THE CORONER'S
02:51:13.529 --> 02:51:13.997
RESPONSIBILITIES FROM THE
02:51:14.063 --> 02:51:17.467
SHERIFF'S OVERSIGHT. WHICH WILL
02:51:17.533 --> 02:51:19.135
HELP CREATE A SYSTEM THAT
02:51:19.202 --> 02:51:21.237
PRIORITIZES OBJECTIVITY,
02:51:21.304 --> 02:51:22.905
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
02:51:22.972 --> 02:51:26.676
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. IN 2018.
02:51:26.743 --> 02:51:29.045
WE CO SPONSORED A SIMILAR BILL.
02:51:29.112 --> 02:51:31.748
SB 13 OH, THREE BY SENATOR PAN
02:51:31.814 --> 02:51:33.349
THAT CAME UP DURING THE TIME OF
02:51:33.416 --> 02:51:35.518
A VERY PUBLIC SCANDAL WITH SAN
02:51:35.585 --> 02:51:37.086
JOAQUIN COUNTY. WHICH
02:51:37.153 --> 02:51:37.987
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON HAS
02:51:38.054 --> 02:51:41.924
RECOUNTED TO YOU. ÁP D ASKED ME
02:51:41.991 --> 02:51:43.459
BELIEVES THAT NO SHERIFF OR LAW
02:51:43.526 --> 02:51:45.194
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL SHOULD BE
02:51:45.261 --> 02:51:46.529
IN A POSITION. BE INFLUENCED THE
02:51:46.596 --> 02:51:49.966
OUTCOME. OF A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S
02:51:50.033 --> 02:51:54.504
AUTOPSY. SADLY. THAT IS NOT THE
02:51:54.570 --> 02:51:57.440
CASE IN CALIFORNIA TODAY. WHERE
02:51:57.507 --> 02:51:59.976
48 COUNTIES HAVE A COMBINED
02:52:00.043 --> 02:52:03.780
SHERIFF, CORONER MODEL. AND DO
02:52:03.846 --> 02:52:05.481
NOT HAVE AN INDEPENDENT
02:52:05.548 --> 02:52:08.418
INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS. I BRING A
02:52:08.484 --> 02:52:09.585
UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO THIS
02:52:09.652 --> 02:52:11.487
ISSUE. AS A FORMER POLICE
02:52:11.554 --> 02:52:13.790
OFFICER. WHO INVESTIGATED
02:52:13.856 --> 02:52:17.560
HOMICIDE CASES. INCLUDING THE
02:52:17.627 --> 02:52:19.562
WITNESSING OF AUTOPSIES ON
02:52:19.629 --> 02:52:20.863
VICTIMS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
02:52:20.930 --> 02:52:22.432
EVIDENCE GATHERING. BASED UPON
02:52:22.498 --> 02:52:25.001
MY OWN EXPERIENCE. NO LAW
02:52:25.068 --> 02:52:27.403
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL. SHERIFF OR
02:52:27.470 --> 02:52:31.507
OTHERWISE. SHOULD HAVE THE
02:52:31.574 --> 02:52:33.476
AUTHORITY TO CHANGE A MEDICAL
02:52:33.543 --> 02:52:36.145
PROFESSIONAL'S OPINION AS TO THE
02:52:36.212 --> 02:52:36.779
CAUSE OR MANNER OF DEATH. OF A
02:52:36.846 --> 02:52:41.984
VICTIM. IF ENACTED, SP 16 OH
02:52:42.051 --> 02:52:43.920
EIGHT PROVIDES A SOLUTION TO
02:52:43.986 --> 02:52:46.756
THAT PROBLEM. WE URGE YOUR IVO
02:52:46.823 --> 02:52:48.725
TODAY. THANK YOU, AND I'LL BE
02:52:48.791 --> 02:52:49.792
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU
02:52:49.859 --> 02:52:57.033
MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. GOOD GOOD
02:52:57.100 --> 02:53:02.238
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SANDRA
02:53:02.305 --> 02:53:05.108
COLLINS. MY SON IS ANGELLO
02:53:05.174 --> 02:53:09.145
KINGDOM. ANGELOS KILLED ON
02:53:09.212 --> 02:53:13.649
DECEMBER 23RD. OF 2020 BY ANTI
02:53:13.716 --> 02:53:16.586
POLICE OFFICERS. IN FRONT OF ME.
02:53:16.652 --> 02:53:18.955
ON MY BEDROOM FLOOR. HE WAS
02:53:19.021 --> 02:53:23.826
EXPERIENCING. A MENTAL HEALTH
02:53:23.893 --> 02:53:25.027
CRISIS THAT NIGHT, BUT HE WAS
02:53:25.094 --> 02:53:27.563
NOT VIOLENT. DID NOT HAVE ANY
02:53:27.630 --> 02:53:30.967
WEAPONS. AND WHAT'S NOT UNDER
02:53:31.033 --> 02:53:32.702
THE INFLUENCE OF ANY COMMENTS,
02:53:32.769 --> 02:53:37.039
SUBSTANCES OF ABUSE. DESPITE THE
02:53:37.106 --> 02:53:38.174
OFFICERS ACKNOWLEDGING ALL OF
02:53:38.241 --> 02:53:40.343
THESE THEY PLACED HIM ON HIS
02:53:40.409 --> 02:53:43.780
STOMACH. UNDERGROUND HANDCUFFED
02:53:43.846 --> 02:53:49.118
HIM. PUSHED HIS CROSS LEGS
02:53:49.185 --> 02:53:51.287
AGAINST HIS BACK. AND KNEELED ON
02:53:51.354 --> 02:53:54.924
THE BACK OF HIS NECK. DURING AT
02:53:54.991 --> 02:53:56.159
LEAST THE LAST FOR ENOUGH
02:53:56.225 --> 02:54:00.029
MINUTES. OF THIS RESTRAINT. HE
02:54:00.096 --> 02:54:04.700
WAS COMPLETELY UNRESPONSIVE. AH!
02:54:04.767 --> 02:54:07.036
SOON AFTER ANGELA DIED WE SAW AT
02:54:07.103 --> 02:54:10.439
THE BEGINNING OF A COVER UP.
02:54:10.506 --> 02:54:13.676
ADDITIONALLY WE WERE TOLD THAT
02:54:13.743 --> 02:54:14.911
THIS DEATH WOULD BE BLAMED ON
02:54:14.977 --> 02:54:17.847
EXCITED THE LEAR IUM. A WIDELY
02:54:17.914 --> 02:54:21.217
DENOUNCED DIAGNOSIS USED WAS
02:54:21.284 --> 02:54:22.351
MOST OFTEN IN CASES OF IN
02:54:22.418 --> 02:54:25.454
CUSTODY DEATH. EVEN IF IT DIDN'T
02:54:25.521 --> 02:54:27.023
MATCH THE EVIDENCE. BECAUSE OF
02:54:27.089 --> 02:54:30.827
THIS WE GOT AND INDEPENDENT
02:54:30.893 --> 02:54:32.461
PATHOLOGISTS TO CONDUCT AN
02:54:32.528 --> 02:54:36.065
OBJECTIVE AUTOPSY. AND HE LATER
02:54:36.132 --> 02:54:37.400
DETERMINED ANGELA'S CAUSE OF
02:54:37.466 --> 02:54:39.135
THAT DEATH. TO BE POSITIONAL
02:54:39.202 --> 02:54:42.605
ASPHYXIA. EIGHT MONTHS AFTER HE
02:54:42.672 --> 02:54:45.341
DIED. WE WENT TO THE COUNTIES.
02:54:45.408 --> 02:54:49.478
CORONER'S INQUEST. WHICH ALLOWED
02:54:49.545 --> 02:54:50.980
US TO SEE PART OF THE
02:54:51.047 --> 02:54:52.048
INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY THE
02:54:52.114 --> 02:54:55.751
COMBINED OFFICES. THEY SAID THIS
02:54:55.818 --> 02:54:57.620
CAUSE OF DEATH WAS DUE TO
02:54:57.687 --> 02:55:00.189
EXCITED DELIRIUM. WHILE HE SAW
02:55:00.256 --> 02:55:02.124
THIS COMING, WE DID NOT REALIZE
02:55:02.191 --> 02:55:03.960
YOU WOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO
02:55:04.026 --> 02:55:05.962
SEE JUST HOW BIASED THE
02:55:06.028 --> 02:55:09.699
INVESTIGATION WAS. THE INQUEST.
02:55:09.765 --> 02:55:11.500
THEY DID NOT NAME MY DAUGHTER
02:55:11.567 --> 02:55:15.571
AND I WHO WITNESSED THIS THEY
02:55:15.638 --> 02:55:18.574
WENT TO HELP EVIDENCE THEY
02:55:18.641 --> 02:55:19.575
CONTRADICTED MEDICAL RECORDS AND
02:55:19.642 --> 02:55:24.480
MORE. UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT
02:55:24.547 --> 02:55:26.449
UNIQUE. WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY
02:55:26.515 --> 02:55:29.151
WITH OTHER IMPACTED FAMILIES,
02:55:29.218 --> 02:55:30.386
NAMELY THE FAMILIES OF OSCAR
02:55:30.453 --> 02:55:32.154
GRANT AND MILES HALL, WHO ARE
02:55:32.221 --> 02:55:34.156
ALSO AMONG THE MANY AFFECTED BY
02:55:34.223 --> 02:55:36.659
A SYSTEM. THAT CURRENTLY LACKS
02:55:36.726 --> 02:55:38.194
TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND
02:55:38.261 --> 02:55:42.465
OBJECTIVITY. WE SEE THE CLEAR
02:55:42.531 --> 02:55:45.434
NEED FOR CHANGE. COSTS OF DEATH
02:55:45.501 --> 02:55:47.336
MUST BE SOLELY DETERMINED BY
02:55:47.403 --> 02:55:48.371
QUALIFIED EXPERIENCE AND
02:55:48.437 --> 02:55:51.841
OBJECTIVE PROFESSIONALS. AND
02:55:51.908 --> 02:55:53.409
COMMUNITIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO
02:55:53.476 --> 02:55:55.578
TRUST THAT FINDINGS ARE NOT
02:55:55.645 --> 02:55:57.680
INFLUENCED OR ALTERED BY LAW
02:55:57.747 --> 02:55:59.248
ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY IN CASES
02:55:59.315 --> 02:56:03.586
OF IN CUSTODY DEATHS. THANK YOU
02:56:03.653 --> 02:56:05.788
SO MUCH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
02:56:05.855 --> 02:56:08.791
SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. YOU
02:56:08.858 --> 02:56:10.826
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. NOW WE'LL
02:56:10.893 --> 02:56:14.130
TAKE WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OF A
02:56:14.196 --> 02:56:15.298
B 608 YOUR NAME AND YOUR
02:56:15.364 --> 02:56:18.534
ORGANIZATION. MR CHAIRMAN
02:56:18.601 --> 02:56:19.902
MEMBERS DAN PHILLIPS AUTO ON
02:56:19.969 --> 02:56:22.138
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
02:56:22.204 --> 02:56:22.872
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
02:56:22.939 --> 02:56:26.709
SUPPORT GOOD AFTERNOON, MELISSA
02:56:26.776 --> 02:56:27.843
O'CONNELL FROM THE NORTHERN
02:56:27.910 --> 02:56:29.178
CALIFORNIA INNOCENCE PROJECT,
02:56:29.245 --> 02:56:30.846
ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
02:56:30.913 --> 02:56:31.914
INNOCENCE PROJECT AND LOYOLA
02:56:31.981 --> 02:56:33.683
PROJECT FOR THE INNOCENT AND
02:56:33.749 --> 02:56:37.153
STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:56:37.219 --> 02:56:38.754
MY NAME IS ELIJAH OR WITH ANTI
02:56:38.821 --> 02:56:39.789
RECIDIVISM COALITION AND STRONG
02:56:39.855 --> 02:56:46.262
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MIKE, A
02:56:46.329 --> 02:56:48.464
DOCTOR OFF FROM THE OF NORTHERN
02:56:48.531 --> 02:56:50.599
CALIFORNIA ON BEHALF OF THE
02:56:50.666 --> 02:56:52.535
ACLU, CALIFORNIA ACTION. WE ARE
02:56:52.601 --> 02:56:54.170
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THIS
02:56:54.236 --> 02:56:55.204
LEGISLATION AND URGE YOUR
02:56:55.271 --> 02:57:00.209
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
02:57:00.276 --> 02:57:02.645
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS TOM TRAN
02:57:02.712 --> 02:57:03.980
AND WITH THE L. A BAKER CENTER
02:57:04.046 --> 02:57:05.848
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, AND WE ARE IN
02:57:05.915 --> 02:57:08.417
STRONG SUPPORT. MELISSA COZY
02:57:08.484 --> 02:57:09.452
WITH CALIFORNIA'S FOR SAFETY AND
02:57:09.518 --> 02:57:14.223
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. DENNIS
02:57:14.290 --> 02:57:15.257
CUEVAS ROMERITO WITH THE
02:57:15.324 --> 02:57:16.392
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION,
02:57:16.459 --> 02:57:20.096
PROUD CO SPONSORS OF THE BILL.
02:57:20.162 --> 02:57:20.730
HELLO, JEREMY EMBERS.
02:57:20.796 --> 02:57:22.164
CHRISTOPHER SANDINO WITH THE
02:57:22.231 --> 02:57:23.399
CALIFORNIA HAWAII STATE. NAACP.
02:57:23.466 --> 02:57:26.202
PROUD SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
02:57:26.268 --> 02:57:29.572
AFTERNOON. BALLOTING TO CON
02:57:29.638 --> 02:57:32.708
SISTER OF ANGELA QUINTO.
02:57:32.775 --> 02:57:33.743
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR I
02:57:33.809 --> 02:57:39.348
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:57:39.415 --> 02:57:41.217
SENATORS MY NAME IS ROBERT
02:57:41.283 --> 02:57:42.985
COLLINS, UM, ANGELA KING TO STEP
02:57:43.052 --> 02:57:45.888
DOWN. UM UH, HOPING FOR YOUR
02:57:45.955 --> 02:57:47.123
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THAT WILL
02:57:47.189 --> 02:57:48.224
BRING LEGITIMACY TO THE PROCESS.
02:57:48.290 --> 02:57:51.827
THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL GO TO OUR
02:57:51.894 --> 02:57:54.597
PHONE LINES. MODERATOR, CAN YOU
02:57:54.663 --> 02:57:56.532
QUÊ UP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WISHING
02:57:56.599 --> 02:57:57.600
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORTIVE 16.
02:57:57.666 --> 02:58:02.872
OH, EIGHT. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE
02:58:02.938 --> 02:58:04.940
TO SPEAK ON AND SUPPORT OF THIS,
02:58:05.007 --> 02:58:06.909
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
02:58:06.976 --> 02:58:08.044
AND STARTED LYING. 200, PLEASE
02:58:08.110 --> 02:58:12.348
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
02:58:12.415 --> 02:58:13.883
AND NUMBERS. JANICE O'MALLEY
02:58:13.949 --> 02:58:15.284
WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF
02:58:15.351 --> 02:58:16.118
STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL
02:58:16.185 --> 02:58:17.119
EMPLOYEES AND STRONG SUPPORT.
02:58:17.186 --> 02:58:18.988
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
02:58:19.055 --> 02:58:23.993
WITNESS. NEXT GO TO LINE 201,
02:58:24.060 --> 02:58:28.230
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LESLIE CALDWELL
02:58:28.297 --> 02:58:29.231
, HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
02:58:29.298 --> 02:58:30.533
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
02:58:30.599 --> 02:58:36.205
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IN
02:58:36.272 --> 02:58:37.306
THE ACTUAL LITTLE 1 TO 10,
02:58:37.373 --> 02:58:41.610
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
02:58:41.677 --> 02:58:42.478
DON HIS SIDES REPRESENTING THE
02:58:42.545 --> 02:58:43.746
LOS ANGELES COUNTY BOARD OF
02:58:43.813 --> 02:58:45.514
SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT OF 80 16.
02:58:45.581 --> 02:58:50.453
OH, EIGHT. THANK YOU. LINE TWO'S
02:58:50.519 --> 02:58:54.590
14 TO 14, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
02:58:54.657 --> 02:58:56.592
AFTERNOON, REBECA GONZALEZ WITH
02:58:56.659 --> 02:58:57.326
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
02:58:57.393 --> 02:58:58.260
SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA
02:58:58.327 --> 02:59:02.832
CHAPTER AND SUPPORT. INITIAL
02:59:02.898 --> 02:59:06.602
LINE TO 17, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
02:59:06.669 --> 02:59:07.937
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
02:59:08.003 --> 02:59:09.338
MARIAN. FOR ME WAS THE
02:59:09.405 --> 02:59:10.506
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF THE
02:59:10.573 --> 02:59:12.141
COUNCIL ON AMERICAN ISLAMIC
02:59:12.208 --> 02:59:14.276
RELATIONS AND SUPPORT OF A B 16?
02:59:14.343 --> 02:59:20.116
OH, EIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
02:59:20.182 --> 02:59:21.917
NEXT TO GO TO LINE 2 13, PLEASE
02:59:21.984 --> 02:59:25.554
GO AHEAD. BRIAN HOPE FOR ON
02:59:25.621 --> 02:59:27.223
BEHALF OF COSPONSORS SECURE
02:59:27.289 --> 02:59:29.091
JUSTICE HERE IN SUPPORT
02:59:29.158 --> 02:59:29.959
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM
02:59:30.025 --> 02:59:31.360
CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT POLICY
02:59:31.427 --> 02:59:33.462
CENTER CONFERENCE OF CALIFORNIA
02:59:33.529 --> 02:59:35.865
BAR ASSOCIATION. HUMAN IMPACT
02:59:35.931 --> 02:59:38.267
PARTNERS, INITIATE JUSTICE
02:59:38.334 --> 02:59:40.903
JUSTICE FOR ANGELO TINTO JUSTICE
02:59:40.970 --> 02:59:41.704
FOR ALL COALITION NATIONAL
02:59:41.770 --> 02:59:44.673
ALLIANCE FOR FILIPINO CONCERNS.
02:59:44.740 --> 02:59:46.342
FILIPINO COMMUNITY CENTER. THANK
02:59:46.408 --> 02:59:50.880
YOU. THANK YOU. AND ACTUALLY GO
02:59:50.946 --> 02:59:55.351
ONLINE TO 16. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
02:59:55.417 --> 02:59:57.987
JUSTIN GARCIA ON BEHALF OF THE
02:59:58.053 --> 02:59:59.455
CALIFORNIA NEWSPAPER PUBLISHERS
02:59:59.522 --> 03:00:01.357
ASSOCIATION, THE NATIONAL PRESS
03:00:01.423 --> 03:00:03.058
PHOTOGRAPHERS ASSOCIATION RADIO
03:00:03.125 --> 03:00:04.026
TELEVISION DIGITAL NEWS
03:00:04.093 --> 03:00:07.863
ASSOCIATION. CALORIES SOCIETY OF
03:00:07.930 --> 03:00:10.032
PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS L, A
03:00:10.099 --> 03:00:12.168
AND SUSAN SPEAKER, PROFESSOR OF
03:00:12.234 --> 03:00:14.737
LA U C. L A. AND SUPPORT OF BABY
03:00:14.803 --> 03:00:22.044
16. OH, EIGHT. NEXT WITNESS TO
03:00:22.111 --> 03:00:26.182
LINE 1 97, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
03:00:26.248 --> 03:00:28.250
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DIANA
03:00:28.317 --> 03:00:29.818
COLLINS PUENTE AND AUNT OF
03:00:29.885 --> 03:00:32.188
ANGELA KING TOE AND I'M CALLING
03:00:32.254 --> 03:00:33.322
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF 60 MILLION.
03:00:33.389 --> 03:00:37.593
THANK YOU. NEXT CAROLINE TO 11,
03:00:37.660 --> 03:00:41.463
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
03:00:41.530 --> 03:00:43.599
, MR TARYN MEMBERS RON RAP
03:00:43.666 --> 03:00:44.633
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
03:00:44.700 --> 03:00:47.036
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION,
03:00:47.102 --> 03:00:49.004
WERE ALSO CO SPONSORS OF THIS
03:00:49.071 --> 03:00:50.339
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION AND
03:00:50.406 --> 03:00:51.440
SPEAKING AND STRONG SUPPORT.
03:00:51.507 --> 03:00:56.745
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BLIND TO
03:00:56.812 --> 03:01:00.583
19, PLEASE GO AHEAD.GOOD
03:01:00.649 --> 03:01:03.018
AFTERNOON, JIM LINDBERG ON
03:01:03.085 --> 03:01:03.652
BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE
03:01:03.719 --> 03:01:05.988
ON LEGISLATION IN CALIFORNIA AND
03:01:06.055 --> 03:01:09.658
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
03:01:09.725 --> 03:01:11.527
MR CHAIR HAS NO ONE ELSE IN Q AT
03:01:11.594 --> 03:01:14.863
THIS TIME, OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO TO
03:01:14.930 --> 03:01:15.965
OPPOSITION. WE WANT WITNESSES IN
03:01:16.031 --> 03:01:19.134
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE TO UM,
03:01:19.201 --> 03:01:20.135
LISTEN, LISTED CHORUS ARCILLA.
03:01:20.202 --> 03:01:27.776
OH, LORD. YEAH, ALRIGHT. YOU MAY
03:01:27.843 --> 03:01:29.311
BEGIN. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
03:01:29.378 --> 03:01:30.446
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
03:01:30.512 --> 03:01:32.014
COREY SOESILO ON BEHALF OF THE
03:01:32.081 --> 03:01:32.881
CALIFORNIA STATE
03:01:32.948 --> 03:01:33.649
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY
03:01:33.716 --> 03:01:35.751
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. UH,
03:01:35.818 --> 03:01:36.919
I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUE TALKED
03:01:36.986 --> 03:01:38.287
ABOUT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND
03:01:38.354 --> 03:01:39.622
GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS,
03:01:39.688 --> 03:01:42.258
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE
03:01:42.324 --> 03:01:44.560
THING. ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR.
03:01:44.627 --> 03:01:46.462
IN EVERY CORNER CASE PURSUANT TO
03:01:46.528 --> 03:01:49.965
EXISTING LAW. THE CORNER
03:01:50.032 --> 03:01:51.100
DETERMINES MANNER OF DEATH AND A
03:01:51.166 --> 03:01:52.668
PHYSICIAN. DETERMINES CAUSE OF
03:01:52.735 --> 03:01:59.241
DEATH. THAT'S THE LAW. THERE ARE
03:01:59.308 --> 03:02:00.242
FIVE MANNERS OF DEATH
03:02:00.309 --> 03:02:02.811
ACCIDENTAL. HOMICIDE SUICIDE.
03:02:02.878 --> 03:02:06.615
NATURAL. UNCONFIRMED OR
03:02:06.682 --> 03:02:11.854
UNDETERMINED. THAT'S IT. IT'S A
03:02:11.920 --> 03:02:13.088
BIFURCATED SYSTEM. THE CORNER
03:02:13.155 --> 03:02:14.923
DOES NOT DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF
03:02:14.990 --> 03:02:16.258
DEATH THAT IS THE PURVIEW SOLELY
03:02:16.325 --> 03:02:18.827
OF A MEDICAL DOCTOR. THAT'S BEEN
03:02:18.894 --> 03:02:20.896
THE LAW. IT'S BEEN CLARIFIED BY
03:02:20.963 --> 03:02:21.964
LEGISLATION IN THE PAST FEW
03:02:22.031 --> 03:02:23.966
YEARS. THIS BIFURCATED SYSTEM
03:02:24.033 --> 03:02:25.234
PROVIDES APPROPRIATE CHECKS AND
03:02:25.301 --> 03:02:28.470
BALANCES. THERE HAVE BEEN
03:02:28.537 --> 03:02:30.272
COUNTIES MENTIONED THAT HAVE HAD
03:02:30.339 --> 03:02:31.440
ISSUES WITH THE SHERIFF CORNER
03:02:31.507 --> 03:02:33.175
MODEL. THOSE COUNTIES HAVE
03:02:33.242 --> 03:02:34.777
EXERCISED THE AUTHORITY THAT
03:02:34.843 --> 03:02:36.645
EXISTS UNDER CURRENT LAW TO
03:02:36.712 --> 03:02:37.846
SEPARATE THOSE OFFICES TALKING
03:02:37.913 --> 03:02:38.681
ABOUT SANTA CLARA, I'M TALKING
03:02:38.747 --> 03:02:41.717
ABOUT SAN JOAQUIN. THEY DIDN'T
03:02:41.784 --> 03:02:42.685
NEED ANY LEGISLATIVE HELP TO DO
03:02:42.751 --> 03:02:44.653
THAT. THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT
03:02:44.720 --> 03:02:47.923
UNDER CURRENT LAW. JUST WANT TO
03:02:47.990 --> 03:02:49.391
POINT OUT THAT COUNTIES HAVE
03:02:49.458 --> 03:02:50.959
ALSO ADOPTED PROCEDURES TO
03:02:51.026 --> 03:02:52.027
ADDRESS THE PERCEIVED CONFLICTS
03:02:52.094 --> 03:02:53.128
WITH HOW DEATH INVESTIGATIONS
03:02:53.195 --> 03:02:56.598
ARE UNDERTAKEN. NOW IT APPEARS
03:02:56.665 --> 03:02:58.100
THAT THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE
03:02:58.167 --> 03:02:59.735
AUTHOR IS LOOKING FOR IN THIS. I
03:02:59.802 --> 03:03:01.437
DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR HIM. BUT
03:03:01.503 --> 03:03:03.505
IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WE CAN
03:03:03.572 --> 03:03:04.340
HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO
03:03:04.406 --> 03:03:05.307
CONDUCTS DEATH INVESTIGATIONS
03:03:05.374 --> 03:03:06.475
WHEN THERE ARE OFFICER INVOLVED
03:03:06.542 --> 03:03:09.345
DEATHS. BUT THIS BILL GOES FAR
03:03:09.411 --> 03:03:10.946
BEYOND THAT. THIS BILL SAYS
03:03:11.013 --> 03:03:12.348
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE AN ENTIRE
03:03:12.414 --> 03:03:13.882
GOVERNANCE SYSTEM. TAKE LOCAL
03:03:13.949 --> 03:03:15.517
CONTROL AWAY. TAKE THE AUTHORITY
03:03:15.584 --> 03:03:16.819
AWAY FROM COUNTY BOARD OF
03:03:16.885 --> 03:03:17.920
SUPERVISORS WHO ARE BEST PLACED
03:03:17.986 --> 03:03:20.022
TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. AND
03:03:20.089 --> 03:03:22.124
SAYS YOU MUST SEPARATE THESE
03:03:22.191 --> 03:03:23.258
OFFICES TO GREAT EXPENSE WITHOUT
03:03:23.325 --> 03:03:25.994
ANY FUNDING. I WOULD ALSO NOTE
03:03:26.061 --> 03:03:27.029
FOR THE RECORD THE OPPOSITION OF
03:03:27.096 --> 03:03:27.930
THE CALIFORNIA STATE CORONER'S
03:03:27.996 --> 03:03:29.832
ASSOCIATION AND WE RESPECTFULLY
03:03:29.898 --> 03:03:31.667
URGE YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
03:03:31.734 --> 03:03:36.672
THANK YOU, MR MORE MONEY. ALL
03:03:36.739 --> 03:03:37.940
RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND
03:03:38.006 --> 03:03:39.541
COMMITTEE RYAN MORE MONEY ON
03:03:39.608 --> 03:03:42.077
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
03:03:42.144 --> 03:03:43.112
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES HERE IN
03:03:43.178 --> 03:03:44.146
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. A B 16.
03:03:44.213 --> 03:03:46.615
OH, EIGHT. THE SEC HAS AN
03:03:46.682 --> 03:03:48.417
OPPOSED POSITION ON A B 16 OH,
03:03:48.484 --> 03:03:49.985
EIGHT PURELY FROM A GOVERNANCE
03:03:50.052 --> 03:03:52.221
PERSPECTIVE, BASED ON TWO
03:03:52.287 --> 03:03:53.856
UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES, THE FIRST
03:03:53.922 --> 03:03:55.124
COUNTY SEEK TO PRESERVE BORDER
03:03:55.190 --> 03:03:57.059
SUPERVISOR AUTHORITY. OVER
03:03:57.126 --> 03:03:59.962
COUNTY GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS IN
03:04:00.028 --> 03:04:01.964
TWO REQUIRING THE SEPARATION OF
03:04:02.030 --> 03:04:02.965
EXISTING SHERIFF CORNER OFFICES
03:04:03.031 --> 03:04:04.933
WOULD HAVE A DEEP FISCAL IMPACT
03:04:05.000 --> 03:04:07.369
COUNTIES. WHILE THE PREMISE OF
03:04:07.436 --> 03:04:08.871
LOCAL CONTROL GOOD GOVERNANCE OR
03:04:08.937 --> 03:04:11.006
IMPLEMENTATION COSTS DON'T FALL
03:04:11.073 --> 03:04:12.374
DIRECTLY UNDER THE JURISDICTION
03:04:12.441 --> 03:04:14.209
OF THIS COMMITTEE, I'D LIKE TO
03:04:14.276 --> 03:04:15.477
HIGHLIGHT A BALANCE BETWEEN THE
03:04:15.544 --> 03:04:17.012
STATED INTEREST OF THE AUTHOR
03:04:17.079 --> 03:04:19.214
AND COSPONSORS. AND THAT OF OUR
03:04:19.281 --> 03:04:20.282
COUNTIES WITH COMBINED SHERIFF
03:04:20.349 --> 03:04:22.551
CORNER OFFICES. AS PROPOSED IN
03:04:22.618 --> 03:04:23.652
SENATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE
03:04:23.719 --> 03:04:24.787
COMMITTEE AND MORE EFFECTIVE
03:04:24.853 --> 03:04:26.955
SOLUTION COULD BE TO REQUIRE THE
03:04:27.022 --> 03:04:28.357
FULLY INDEPENDENT MEDICAL
03:04:28.424 --> 03:04:30.125
EXAMINATION FOR ALL OFFICER
03:04:30.192 --> 03:04:31.660
INVOLVED DEATHS BY WHICH BOTH
03:04:31.727 --> 03:04:33.996
THE CAUSE AND MANNER OF DEATH IS
03:04:34.062 --> 03:04:35.030
DETERMINED COMPLETELY OUTSIDE
03:04:35.097 --> 03:04:36.165
THE PURVIEW OF THE SHERIFF
03:04:36.231 --> 03:04:38.767
CORNER OFFICES. FIRST THIS WOULD
03:04:38.834 --> 03:04:40.269
ADDRESS THE POSSIBLE THE
03:04:40.335 --> 03:04:41.737
POSSIBILITY OF ANY INFLUENCE AS
03:04:41.804 --> 03:04:43.071
WELL AS ANY PERCEIVED CONFLICT
03:04:43.138 --> 03:04:46.074
OF INTEREST. SECOND ALTHOUGH IT
03:04:46.141 --> 03:04:47.109
WOULD STILL LIMIT LOCAL
03:04:47.176 --> 03:04:48.510
AUTHORITY AND CREATE ADDITIONAL
03:04:48.577 --> 03:04:50.179
COSTS FOR COUNTIES, IT WOULD
03:04:50.245 --> 03:04:52.080
HELP RETAIN SOME LEVEL OF BOARD
03:04:52.147 --> 03:04:53.348
OF SUPERVISOR DISCRETION OVER
03:04:53.415 --> 03:04:55.617
COUNTY BUDGETARY DECISIONS. THIS
03:04:55.684 --> 03:04:56.919
IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR
03:04:56.985 --> 03:04:58.220
SMALLER COUNTIES WHERE THE
03:04:58.287 --> 03:04:58.754
NUMBER OF DEATHS REQUIRING
03:04:58.821 --> 03:05:01.990
CORNER INVESTIGATION IS LOW.
03:05:02.057 --> 03:05:03.358
FURTHER THE EXISTING AUTHORITY
03:05:03.425 --> 03:05:05.360
OF COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
03:05:05.427 --> 03:05:07.496
CAN PLAY OUT IN FAVOR FOR THOSE
03:05:07.563 --> 03:05:08.630
SEEKING SEPARATION OF SHERIFF
03:05:08.697 --> 03:05:10.666
AND CORONER DUTIES AS SHERIFF'S
03:05:10.732 --> 03:05:11.834
MENTIONED WITHOUT ANY CHANGE TO
03:05:11.900 --> 03:05:15.103
STATE LAW. THIS WAS MOST
03:05:15.170 --> 03:05:17.239
RECENTLY THE CASE IN SAN JOAQUIN
03:05:17.306 --> 03:05:18.707
COUNTY, WHERE THE BOARD VOTED TO
03:05:18.774 --> 03:05:19.708
DECOUPLE SHERIFF CORONER DUTIES
03:05:19.775 --> 03:05:20.776
AND ESTABLISH AN INDEPENDENT
03:05:20.843 --> 03:05:23.045
MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.
03:05:23.111 --> 03:05:24.379
ULTIMATELY AS PROPOSED TO BE
03:05:24.446 --> 03:05:26.715
AMENDED A B 16. OH, EIGHT WOULD
03:05:26.782 --> 03:05:27.549
REQUIRE THE D CONSOLIDATION OF
03:05:27.616 --> 03:05:29.885
48 OF OUR 15 COUNTIES WITH COST
03:05:29.952 --> 03:05:31.653
RANGING IN, UH IN THE HUNDREDS
03:05:31.720 --> 03:05:34.289
OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. TO OVER
03:05:34.356 --> 03:05:36.391
$5 MILLION. WHILE WE APPRECIATE
03:05:36.458 --> 03:05:37.326
THE CLARIFYING AMENDS ACCEPTED
03:05:37.392 --> 03:05:39.061
BY THE AUTHOR, WE HOPE THERE IS
03:05:39.127 --> 03:05:40.462
GREATER CONSIDERATION OF OTHER
03:05:40.529 --> 03:05:41.597
SOLUTIONS, WHICH WOULD REDUCE
03:05:41.663 --> 03:05:44.433
THE IMPACT COUNTIES. AT THE BARE
03:05:44.500 --> 03:05:45.968
MINIMUM. WE MUST NOTE THAT IT
03:05:46.034 --> 03:05:47.503
WILL TAKE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF
03:05:47.569 --> 03:05:48.604
TIME FOR SOME COUNTIES TO
03:05:48.670 --> 03:05:50.439
DEVELOP PLANS TO CONTRACT OUT
03:05:50.506 --> 03:05:52.140
FOR SERVICES ORDER ESTABLISHED
03:05:52.207 --> 03:05:53.308
STANDALONE CORONER OR MEDICAL
03:05:53.375 --> 03:05:56.245
EXAMINER OFFICES. DUE TO WORK
03:05:56.311 --> 03:05:57.813
FOR SHORTAGES AND ALL SECTORS.
03:05:57.880 --> 03:05:59.248
THIS MAY INCLUDE EXTENSIVE
03:05:59.314 --> 03:06:00.949
RECRUITING, AS WELL AS TRAINING
03:06:01.016 --> 03:06:02.351
FOR LICENSED PATHOLOGISTS AND
03:06:02.417 --> 03:06:04.953
STAFF AGAIN. WHILE SISAK IS AN
03:06:05.020 --> 03:06:06.088
OPPOSITION, IT IS WITH SINCERE
03:06:06.154 --> 03:06:07.589
RESPECT AND SYMPATHY. TO
03:06:07.656 --> 03:06:08.824
CONCERNS FROM ALL COMMUNITY
03:06:08.891 --> 03:06:10.425
MEMBERS, WHICH ARE 296 BORDER
03:06:10.492 --> 03:06:11.827
SUPERVISORS REPRESENT THANK YOU.
03:06:11.894 --> 03:06:16.765
THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
03:06:16.832 --> 03:06:20.035
IN OPPOSITION HERE IN ROOM 1 12.
03:06:20.102 --> 03:06:21.136
STATE YOUR NAME IN YOUR
03:06:21.203 --> 03:06:23.805
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. AFTERNOON
03:06:23.872 --> 03:06:24.873
COMMITTEES, SERGEANT JULIO
03:06:24.940 --> 03:06:25.874
DELEON AT THE RIVERSIDE
03:06:25.941 --> 03:06:27.242
SHERIFF'S PARLIAMENT AND ON
03:06:27.309 --> 03:06:29.244
BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT AND
03:06:29.311 --> 03:06:30.379
SHERIFF CHAD BIANCA. WE OPPOSE
03:06:30.445 --> 03:06:32.014
THE BILL. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN
03:06:32.080 --> 03:06:33.215
MEMBERS, RANDY PERRY WITH AARON
03:06:33.282 --> 03:06:35.050
GREEN ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF
03:06:35.117 --> 03:06:38.020
POOR ACT AND WORSHIP OF POST
03:06:38.086 --> 03:06:39.388
CHAIRMAN RYAN SHERMAN WITH
03:06:39.454 --> 03:06:41.023
RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION
03:06:41.089 --> 03:06:42.224
AND THE PLASTIC COUNTY DEPUTY
03:06:42.291 --> 03:06:43.091
SHERIFF ASSOCIATION AND
03:06:43.158 --> 03:06:47.029
OPPOSITION. NO FURTHER WITNESSES
03:06:47.095 --> 03:06:48.931
HERE IN 1, 12 MODERATOR, LET'S
03:06:48.997 --> 03:06:51.366
GO TO OUR PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
03:06:51.433 --> 03:06:52.701
THERE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO
03:06:52.768 --> 03:06:55.537
16. OH, EIGHT. AND IF YOU DO
03:06:55.604 --> 03:06:57.906
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF A
03:06:57.973 --> 03:06:59.908
B 16 OH, EIGHT, PLEASE PRESS 10
03:06:59.975 --> 03:07:02.878
AT THIS TIME. LINE 204204,
03:07:02.945 --> 03:07:07.983
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES THANK YOU.
03:07:08.050 --> 03:07:09.918
THIS IS ELIZABETH, SPEAKING
03:07:09.985 --> 03:07:11.420
TODAY AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
03:07:11.486 --> 03:07:13.789
ON BEHALF OF THE RURAL COUNTY
03:07:13.855 --> 03:07:14.890
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA
03:07:14.957 --> 03:07:16.491
AND ALSO IN OPPOSITION FOR THE
03:07:16.558 --> 03:07:18.594
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE
03:07:18.660 --> 03:07:20.362
COUNTY OF COLUSA. THANK YOU VERY
03:07:20.429 --> 03:07:24.333
MUCH. AND MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO
03:07:24.399 --> 03:07:30.238
ONE ELSE IN Q AT THIS TIME.
03:07:30.305 --> 03:07:32.174
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I GUESS
03:07:32.240 --> 03:07:33.542
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
03:07:33.609 --> 03:07:34.776
COMMITTEE WERE TRULY FOR THE
03:07:34.843 --> 03:07:37.179
MOMENT. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF
03:07:37.245 --> 03:07:38.614
QUESTIONS, AND I THINK SOME OF
03:07:38.680 --> 03:07:39.715
THEM WERE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED
03:07:39.781 --> 03:07:40.983
WITH REGARD TO THE LOCAL CONTROL
03:07:41.049 --> 03:07:47.189
BECAUSE IT APPEARS AS IF. IT WAS
03:07:47.255 --> 03:07:48.624
EXPRESSED THAT THE COUNTIES THAT
03:07:48.690 --> 03:07:52.194
HAD THE ISSUES UM THE BOARD OF
03:07:52.260 --> 03:07:54.296
SUPERVISORS FOR THOSE RESPECTIVE
03:07:54.363 --> 03:07:55.897
COUNTIES ACTUALLY DECIDED TO
03:07:55.964 --> 03:07:59.468
SEPARATE, UM. THE CORONER'S
03:07:59.534 --> 03:08:00.268
OFFICE FROM THE TERRORISTS
03:08:00.335 --> 03:08:03.305
DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
03:08:03.372 --> 03:08:04.606
THERE WAS A NEED, SO I'M JUST
03:08:04.673 --> 03:08:07.976
KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHAT
03:08:08.043 --> 03:08:09.211
COMPELS YOU TO BRING THIS BILL
03:08:09.277 --> 03:08:12.648
FORWARD. UM IF THEY STILL HAVE
03:08:12.714 --> 03:08:14.916
THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT, LOCALLY
03:08:14.983 --> 03:08:17.786
THROUGH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
03:08:17.853 --> 03:08:19.021
APPEARS THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE.
03:08:19.087 --> 03:08:23.659
IT HAS BEEN DONE. WHEN THE WHEN
03:08:23.725 --> 03:08:26.695
AND AS NEEDED, AND AS FAR AS I
03:08:26.762 --> 03:08:30.032
KNOW, DO YOU USE C DO YOU HAVE
03:08:30.098 --> 03:08:31.733
DATA THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S NEEDED
03:08:31.800 --> 03:08:33.535
IN OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE NOT
03:08:33.602 --> 03:08:35.537
ACTUALLY PRECEDED? WITH
03:08:35.604 --> 03:08:37.939
SEPARATING THOSE TWO OFFICES.
03:08:38.006 --> 03:08:39.508
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR.
03:08:39.574 --> 03:08:42.144
LET ME UM, THE ANGELO KATO
03:08:42.210 --> 03:08:46.214
FAMILY WHO HAS BEEN WITH ME ON
03:08:46.281 --> 03:08:48.417
THIS JOURNEY WITH 16. OH, EIGHT.
03:08:48.483 --> 03:08:50.419
AS WAS ARTICULATED. ANGELO
03:08:50.485 --> 03:08:52.988
QUINTO PASSED AWAY AND THE
03:08:53.055 --> 03:08:54.923
INCONSISTENCY IN THE AUTOPSY
03:08:54.990 --> 03:08:57.159
REPORT THAT WAS DONE THAT WAS
03:08:57.225 --> 03:09:00.529
USED ABOUT EXCITED DELIRIUM. AND
03:09:00.595 --> 03:09:01.997
THEN LOOK AT THE OTHER TWO
03:09:02.064 --> 03:09:04.032
COUNTIES, BUT YOU ALSO LOOK AT
03:09:04.099 --> 03:09:05.901
10. OTHER LARGE COUNTIES IN THE
03:09:05.967 --> 03:09:07.302
STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE
03:09:07.369 --> 03:09:10.238
ALREADY BIFURCATED AND REMOVE
03:09:10.305 --> 03:09:12.474
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FROM THE
03:09:12.541 --> 03:09:13.909
CORONER'S OFFICE. IT'S ABOUT
03:09:13.975 --> 03:09:16.978
TRANSPARENCY AND YES, IN FACT,
03:09:17.045 --> 03:09:18.580
COUNTIES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
03:09:18.647 --> 03:09:20.749
DO IT, AND WE TALK ABOUT LOW
03:09:20.816 --> 03:09:21.750
CONTROL THIS BODY THIS
03:09:21.817 --> 03:09:22.751
LEGISLATURE, BOTH SENATE AND
03:09:22.818 --> 03:09:25.020
ASSEMBLY. PROVIDE BILLS THAT GO
03:09:25.087 --> 03:09:28.090
IN AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THE
03:09:28.156 --> 03:09:30.058
STATES BECAUSE OF INEQUITIES OR
03:09:30.125 --> 03:09:31.560
BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF
03:09:31.626 --> 03:09:33.995
WILLINGNESS ON A NUMBER OF
03:09:34.062 --> 03:09:35.163
TOPICS WHERE THE STATE HAS COME
03:09:35.230 --> 03:09:38.967
IN. AND RULED STATEWIDE ON
03:09:39.034 --> 03:09:41.303
PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT COUNTIES
03:09:41.369 --> 03:09:43.338
HAVE TO ABIDE BY AND THIS IS NO
03:09:43.405 --> 03:09:45.173
DIFFERENT FROM THAT. IT HAS BEEN
03:09:45.240 --> 03:09:47.509
SHOWN BY EXAMPLES NOT ONLY OF
03:09:47.576 --> 03:09:49.478
ANGELO QUINTO AND OTHER CASES I
03:09:49.544 --> 03:09:52.414
ARTICULATED SEN. JOAQUIN COUNTY
03:09:52.481 --> 03:09:53.849
, WHERE A CLEAR EXAMPLE WHERE A
03:09:53.915 --> 03:09:58.987
SHERIFF FORCED THE CAUSE OF
03:09:59.054 --> 03:10:01.256
DEATH. WE DON'T WANT THAT KIND
03:10:01.323 --> 03:10:03.425
OF INFLUENCE. WE WANT THIS KIND
03:10:03.492 --> 03:10:07.295
OF TRANSPARENCY WHERE AN AUTOPSY
03:10:07.362 --> 03:10:09.464
OR A MEDICAL EXAMINER OR
03:10:09.531 --> 03:10:11.833
CORNER'S OFFICE WHEN THEY FIX
03:10:11.900 --> 03:10:14.069
THEIR SIGNATURE ON THE CAUSE OF
03:10:14.136 --> 03:10:15.070
DEATH. IT IS ABSOLUTELY
03:10:15.137 --> 03:10:17.239
SCIENTIFIC BASE. WITHOUT ANY
03:10:17.305 --> 03:10:19.207
KIND OF BIASES WITHOUT ANY KIND
03:10:19.274 --> 03:10:20.976
OF INTIMIDATION, AND WHAT WE
03:10:21.042 --> 03:10:23.011
HAVE SEEN IS THAT THAT HAS NOT
03:10:23.078 --> 03:10:24.713
TAKEN PLACE IN OTHER COUNTIES
03:10:24.780 --> 03:10:26.014
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
03:10:26.081 --> 03:10:27.482
CALIFORNIA. HOW DO WE ERECT IF I
03:10:27.549 --> 03:10:29.785
THAT BY 16? OH 8 16. OH, EIGHT
03:10:29.851 --> 03:10:30.919
PROVIDES THAT KIND OF
03:10:30.986 --> 03:10:32.721
TRANSPARENCY THAT IF THERE'S A
03:10:32.788 --> 03:10:35.090
CAUSE OF DEATH IF ONE DIES AT
03:10:35.157 --> 03:10:37.125
THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT,
03:10:37.192 --> 03:10:39.995
BUT ALSO STANDS AS A WAY TO ONE
03:10:40.061 --> 03:10:41.196
CLEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY
03:10:41.263 --> 03:10:45.167
ALLEGATIONS. OF CAUSE OF DEATH
03:10:45.233 --> 03:10:47.302
FOR AN INDIVIDUAL. AND SO THIS
03:10:47.369 --> 03:10:49.137
HAS TRANSPARENCY, WRITTEN ALL
03:10:49.204 --> 03:10:52.007
OVER IT AND PROVIDES A KIND OF
03:10:52.073 --> 03:10:52.874
TRANSPARENCY THAT I THINK THAT
03:10:52.941 --> 03:10:55.043
THE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE
03:10:55.110 --> 03:10:55.877
CALLED FOR ACROSS STATE OF
03:10:55.944 --> 03:10:57.913
CALIFORNIA, ESPECIALLY, WE HEARD
03:10:57.979 --> 03:11:00.348
ALSO THE ANGELO CANTO FAMILY WHO
03:11:00.415 --> 03:11:02.784
HAD TO GO TO A GREAT EXPENSE TO
03:11:02.851 --> 03:11:03.985
BRING IN ANOTHER PATHOLOGIST AT
03:11:04.052 --> 03:11:05.587
THEIR OWN EXPENSE. TO DO AN
03:11:05.654 --> 03:11:08.056
AUTOPSY. THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM
03:11:08.123 --> 03:11:10.826
WHAT WAS ARTICULATED. UM UM, BY
03:11:10.892 --> 03:11:13.128
THIS CORNER IN THAT PARTICULAR
03:11:13.195 --> 03:11:15.230
COUNTY, AND SO AGAIN, THIS BILL
03:11:15.297 --> 03:11:17.199
IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND IT
03:11:17.265 --> 03:11:19.034
ALSO IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
03:11:19.100 --> 03:11:20.702
I APPRECIATE THAT, UM, SENATOR
03:11:20.769 --> 03:11:22.370
SENIOR. WE'RE IN COMMITTEE
03:11:22.437 --> 03:11:23.672
COMMENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO OR
03:11:23.738 --> 03:11:25.574
HOW DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT
03:11:25.640 --> 03:11:30.812
THIS TIME. OKAY PERFECT. I THINK
03:11:30.879 --> 03:11:32.647
THAT THE GREATEST CONCERN THAT I
03:11:32.714 --> 03:11:34.649
HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE DO
03:11:34.716 --> 03:11:36.418
HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH THIS CAN
03:11:36.484 --> 03:11:40.555
BE ADDRESSED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
03:11:40.622 --> 03:11:41.823
, AND IT APPEARS TO BE BASED ON
03:11:41.890 --> 03:11:45.227
THE TESTIMONY THAT WE'VE HEARD
03:11:45.293 --> 03:11:47.028
TODAY THAT WHEN THERE IS A
03:11:47.095 --> 03:11:49.431
PROBLEM THERE IS STILL AN
03:11:49.497 --> 03:11:51.933
OPTION, TOO. UM ADDRESS IT
03:11:52.000 --> 03:11:56.137
LOCALLY. COMING FROM LOCAL
03:11:56.204 --> 03:11:57.672
CONTROL AND THE WAY THAT I SEE
03:11:57.739 --> 03:11:59.741
THE LEGISLATURE. IT DOES STEP IN
03:11:59.808 --> 03:12:02.944
WHEN THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE OR
03:12:03.011 --> 03:12:05.614
WHEN, UM THERE IS AN ABUSE IN
03:12:05.680 --> 03:12:09.184
AND IT CAN'T BE DEALT WITH HERE.
03:12:09.251 --> 03:12:10.418
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS
03:12:10.485 --> 03:12:13.188
BECAUSE I COME FROM A COUNTY
03:12:13.255 --> 03:12:14.789
THAT THE SHARES ARE VERY WELL
03:12:14.856 --> 03:12:16.558
RESPECTED AND YOU KNOW, AND I
03:12:16.625 --> 03:12:18.293
ALWAYS SAY THAT MANY OF THEM ARE
03:12:18.360 --> 03:12:19.527
VERY OR SEVERAL OF THEM ARE VERY
03:12:19.594 --> 03:12:24.532
MUCH LOVED. AND SO, UM. I'M
03:12:24.599 --> 03:12:29.437
HESITANT. TO ADDRESS SOMETHING
03:12:29.504 --> 03:12:31.773
AS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL WHEN WE
03:12:31.840 --> 03:12:34.209
HAVE SYSTEMS IN CERTAIN COUNTIES
03:12:34.276 --> 03:12:35.610
ACROSS THE STATE THAT ACTUALLY
03:12:35.677 --> 03:12:36.745
ARE LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, AND
03:12:36.811 --> 03:12:40.949
THERE THEY HAVE A PROCESS THAT
03:12:41.016 --> 03:12:41.650
WORKS. AND HERE WE ARE COMING
03:12:41.716 --> 03:12:43.718
IN, SAYING NO, THIS IS THIS IS
03:12:43.785 --> 03:12:45.720
THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT.
03:12:45.787 --> 03:12:49.524
UM WHEN THERE IS NO DATA TO
03:12:49.591 --> 03:12:50.892
SUPPORT THE FACT THAT IT IS
03:12:50.959 --> 03:12:53.561
ACTUALLY NEEDED AND WHEN IT IS
03:12:53.628 --> 03:12:55.463
NEEDED, AS MENTIONED EARLIER
03:12:55.530 --> 03:12:56.598
TODAY BY YOUR WITNESSES AND
03:12:56.665 --> 03:12:58.867
OTHER WITNESSES, UM IT CAN BE
03:12:58.934 --> 03:13:03.271
ADDRESSED LOCALLY. AND I FEEL
03:13:03.338 --> 03:13:04.506
HESITANT ABOUT TAKING THAT
03:13:04.572 --> 03:13:07.876
CONTROL FROM OUR SUPERVISORS WHO
03:13:07.943 --> 03:13:10.245
I'M SURE ARE ELECTED TO
03:13:10.312 --> 03:13:12.113
REPRESENT THEIR CONSTITUENTS IN
03:13:12.180 --> 03:13:13.248
WITH INTEGRITY WITH FIDUCIARY
03:13:13.315 --> 03:13:18.053
DUTY. UM, WHEN THEY'RE REALLY.
03:13:18.119 --> 03:13:20.956
IS NO NEED. UM AND I THINK
03:13:21.022 --> 03:13:22.424
THAT'S WHERE MY RESERVATIONS
03:13:22.490 --> 03:13:24.092
COME FROM. IF THERE WAS NO IF
03:13:24.159 --> 03:13:26.695
THERE WAS NO PROCESSES LOCALLY
03:13:26.761 --> 03:13:28.296
TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE
03:13:28.363 --> 03:13:29.564
INEQUITIES OR SOMEONE ACTING IN
03:13:29.631 --> 03:13:34.169
IN WITH. THAT INTENT PER SE OR
03:13:34.235 --> 03:13:36.171
WITHOUT INTEGRITY THAT I WOULD
03:13:36.237 --> 03:13:37.739
HAVE A PROBLEM AND SAID, YEAH,
03:13:37.806 --> 03:13:39.708
THE STATE HAS TO COME IN, BUT
03:13:39.774 --> 03:13:40.875
BECAUSE WE DO STILL HAVE THE
03:13:40.942 --> 03:13:43.611
PROCESS. BY WHICH THEY CAN BE
03:13:43.678 --> 03:13:46.047
ADDRESSED LOCALLY. I AM HAVE
03:13:46.114 --> 03:13:47.682
HESITATIONS ABOUT SUPPORTING A
03:13:47.749 --> 03:13:49.684
BILL AND OVERSTEPPING THAT LOCAL
03:13:49.751 --> 03:13:52.487
CONTROL. UM, THAT STILL EXIST.
03:13:52.554 --> 03:13:53.755
SO THAT'S WHERE MY RESERVATIONS
03:13:53.822 --> 03:13:57.058
COME FROM FOR THIS BILL. AND I
03:13:57.125 --> 03:13:58.126
DO APPRECIATE THE COUNTIES IN
03:13:58.193 --> 03:13:59.327
THE SUPERVISORS WHO ACTUALLY
03:13:59.394 --> 03:14:00.962
TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO SAY.
03:14:01.029 --> 03:14:02.998
OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS NOT
03:14:03.064 --> 03:14:04.532
WORKING IN OUR COUNTY. WE NEED
03:14:04.599 --> 03:14:06.568
TO. WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT, AND
03:14:06.634 --> 03:14:07.535
THEY TOOK THAT INITIATIVE TO BE
03:14:07.602 --> 03:14:10.005
ABLE TO DO THAT, AND I COME IN
03:14:10.071 --> 03:14:10.739
ANY COUNTY SUPERVISOR BOARD
03:14:10.805 --> 03:14:14.442
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT WOULD
03:14:14.509 --> 03:14:16.544
HAVE THE INTEGRITY AND THEY FIT
03:14:16.611 --> 03:14:18.279
FIT WOULD FEEL THE FIDUCIARY
03:14:18.346 --> 03:14:21.449
DUTY TO ACT IN A WAY THAT IS
03:14:21.516 --> 03:14:22.684
ETHICAL AND FOR THEIR
03:14:22.751 --> 03:14:29.657
CONSTITUENTS, SENATOR SKINNER.
03:14:29.724 --> 03:14:32.660
COMMENTS OR ANY RESPONSE FROM
03:14:32.727 --> 03:14:34.596
THE AUTHOR. BUT I DID REALIZE I
03:14:34.662 --> 03:14:36.664
DO HAVE A QUESTION. I WANT TO
03:14:36.731 --> 03:14:37.866
MAKE SURE MY UNDERSTANDING IS
03:14:37.932 --> 03:14:40.668
THIS EXCUSE ME THAT YOUR
03:14:40.735 --> 03:14:44.706
INTENTION WAS THAT THE BILL
03:14:44.773 --> 03:14:47.208
COVERED ALL COUNTIES. BUT I
03:14:47.275 --> 03:14:48.676
THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE AND HOW
03:14:48.743 --> 03:14:50.645
IT'S DRAFTED THAT IT MIGHT NOT
03:14:50.712 --> 03:14:52.747
INCLUDE CHARTER COUNTIES. HAVE
03:14:52.814 --> 03:14:55.083
YOU AMENDED IT TO MAKE SURE THAT
03:14:55.150 --> 03:14:56.117
IT ALSO INCLUDES CHARTER
03:14:56.184 --> 03:14:58.787
COUNTIES? IT IS CORRECT.OKAY IS
03:14:58.853 --> 03:15:04.592
THAT THE BILL IN PRINT IS.
03:15:04.659 --> 03:15:14.969
ADDRESS LATER WHEN. RIGHT OKAY.
03:15:15.036 --> 03:15:18.540
SO IT WAS ADOPTED IN THE LAST
03:15:18.606 --> 03:15:20.108
COMMITTEE WITH THAT AMENDMENT,
03:15:20.175 --> 03:15:22.010
BUT THE AMENDMENTS NOT IMPRINT
03:15:22.077 --> 03:15:22.877
YET BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE
03:15:22.944 --> 03:15:28.183
TAKEN. YEAH. OKAY? CHARTER
03:15:28.249 --> 03:15:29.651
COUNTIES, CHARTER COUNTIES.
03:15:29.717 --> 03:15:34.022
OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. YES BECAUSE
03:15:34.089 --> 03:15:35.924
OTHERWISE ONE OF MY COUNTY'S
03:15:35.990 --> 03:15:36.758
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN INCLUDED, AND
03:15:36.825 --> 03:15:38.626
I WANTED AS THE MOTION MAKER AND
03:15:38.693 --> 03:15:40.028
MAKE SURE ALL THE COUNTIES ARE
03:15:40.095 --> 03:15:45.567
INCLUDED. SURE. GREAT. SO, UM.
03:15:45.633 --> 03:15:46.868
THREE GIBSON. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
03:15:46.935 --> 03:15:48.436
CLOSE? YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:15:48.503 --> 03:15:50.972
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
03:15:51.039 --> 03:15:51.639
VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION. I WILL
03:15:51.706 --> 03:15:54.409
ALSO, UM, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT
03:15:54.476 --> 03:15:56.311
THIS ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY
03:15:56.377 --> 03:16:00.715
CHAIR WHO CHAIRS BUDGET A SUB
03:16:00.782 --> 03:16:02.317
FIVE SAID THAT THE COUNTIES THAT
03:16:02.383 --> 03:16:04.119
ARE NEED FINANCIAL HELP THAT HE
03:16:04.185 --> 03:16:06.221
WOULD MAKE SURE AND WORK TOWARDS
03:16:06.287 --> 03:16:08.323
AN END NEXT YEAR TO TRY TO HELP
03:16:08.389 --> 03:16:10.058
ANY COUNTIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING
03:16:10.125 --> 03:16:10.792
FINANCIALLY. HE MADE THAT
03:16:10.859 --> 03:16:13.094
COMMITMENT WHEN THIS BILL WAS
03:16:13.161 --> 03:16:13.862
HURTING ASSEMBLY ASSEMBLY,
03:16:13.928 --> 03:16:17.298
PUBLIC SAFETY UM THIS AGAIN THIS
03:16:17.365 --> 03:16:19.801
I WANT TO THANK AGAIN, UM, THOSE
03:16:19.868 --> 03:16:20.735
WHO CAME AND SUPPORTED THE
03:16:20.802 --> 03:16:22.470
ANGELO QUINTO FAMILY, MR OSBORNE
03:16:22.537 --> 03:16:25.373
AND THOSE WHO SPOKE ON THE PHONE
03:16:25.440 --> 03:16:26.941
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL IS
03:16:27.008 --> 03:16:29.277
SHOWING THE SUPPORT. I BELIEVE
03:16:29.344 --> 03:16:30.578
WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT
03:16:30.645 --> 03:16:31.579
DIRECTION. UM I KNOW IT WAS
03:16:31.646 --> 03:16:33.081
ARTICULATED THAT YOU KNOW,
03:16:33.148 --> 03:16:34.516
BORDER SUPERVISORS HAVE
03:16:34.582 --> 03:16:36.651
AUTHORITY AND THIS BODY HAS
03:16:36.718 --> 03:16:38.720
AUTHORITY AS A STATE LEGISLATURE
03:16:38.786 --> 03:16:40.455
TO SOMETIMES OVERRIDE AND I CAME
03:16:40.522 --> 03:16:41.823
FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.
03:16:41.890 --> 03:16:43.391
AND I DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH
03:16:43.458 --> 03:16:44.893
WHAT THE STATE DID TO LOCAL
03:16:44.959 --> 03:16:46.394
GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY AROUND
03:16:46.461 --> 03:16:47.395
REDEVELOPMENT, AND JUST A WHOLE
03:16:47.462 --> 03:16:49.964
HOST OF THINGS. BUT AGAIN, YOU
03:16:50.031 --> 03:16:51.499
HEARD THE TESTIMONY OF ANGELO
03:16:51.566 --> 03:16:53.801
KINKO'S FAMILY. UM, THIS UNITED
03:16:53.868 --> 03:16:57.338
STATES NAVY MAN CAN HAS GONE. UM
03:16:57.405 --> 03:16:59.207
AND YOU ALSO HEARD ME ARTICULATE
03:16:59.274 --> 03:17:01.042
THAT WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL LOSES
03:17:01.109 --> 03:17:02.210
THEIR LIFE AT THE HANDS OF
03:17:02.277 --> 03:17:04.679
POLICE. SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
03:17:04.746 --> 03:17:06.548
SUBSTANTIATED OR SUPPORTED BY
03:17:06.614 --> 03:17:08.116
THE MEDICAL WORLD HEALTH
03:17:08.183 --> 03:17:09.551
ORGANIZATION SO MANY OTHERS
03:17:09.617 --> 03:17:12.187
ABOUT EXCITED DELIRIUM. WE CAN'T
03:17:12.253 --> 03:17:14.055
HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
03:17:14.122 --> 03:17:15.557
TRANSPARENCY. WE HAVE TO HAVE
03:17:15.623 --> 03:17:16.991
ONE IN MEDICAL EXAMINER OFFICE
03:17:17.058 --> 03:17:19.694
TAKES ON TO TRY TO FIND A CAUSE
03:17:19.761 --> 03:17:20.895
OF DEATH, AND THEY HAVE FIXED
03:17:20.962 --> 03:17:22.697
HIS OR HER SIGNATURE ON THAT,
03:17:22.764 --> 03:17:23.765
BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE
03:17:23.831 --> 03:17:26.568
PERSON PASSED AWAY FROM WITHOUT
03:17:26.634 --> 03:17:28.570
ANY INFLUENCE WITHOUT ANY BIASES
03:17:28.636 --> 03:17:30.338
WITHOUT ANY PRESSURE, AND WE
03:17:30.405 --> 03:17:32.407
ALSO INDICATED ON WHAT HAPPENED
03:17:32.473 --> 03:17:33.875
IN SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY. WE WANT
03:17:33.942 --> 03:17:35.677
TO MAKE SURE NO OTHER FAMILY HAS
03:17:35.743 --> 03:17:37.579
TO GO WITH GO THROUGH WITH THE
03:17:37.645 --> 03:17:38.713
CAT WITH THE QUINTO FAMILY
03:17:38.780 --> 03:17:39.781
COLLINS FAMILY HAD TO GO
03:17:39.847 --> 03:17:41.616
THROUGH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
03:17:41.683 --> 03:17:42.884
THAT WHATEVER THE CAUSE OF DEATH
03:17:42.951 --> 03:17:44.385
IS ACTUALLY IT AND IT STANDS
03:17:44.452 --> 03:17:45.520
ALONE, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE
03:17:45.587 --> 03:17:47.989
FOR THIS. 10 OF OUR LARGE
03:17:48.056 --> 03:17:49.424
COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF
03:17:49.490 --> 03:17:50.959
CALIFORNIA HAS ALREADY SEPARATED
03:17:51.025 --> 03:17:52.727
THE SHARES FROM THE CORNERS OFF
03:17:52.794 --> 03:17:54.662
. IF THEY STAND ALONE, AND
03:17:54.729 --> 03:17:55.563
THEY'RE DOING IT, THEY'RE DOING
03:17:55.630 --> 03:17:57.232
THE WORK AS AN INDEPENDENT BODY
03:17:57.298 --> 03:17:58.533
TO PROVIDE THE TRANSPARENCY AND
03:17:58.600 --> 03:18:00.235
ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN IT COMES
03:18:00.301 --> 03:18:02.770
DOWN TO A CAUSE OF DEATH, SO I
03:18:02.837 --> 03:18:03.905
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN EYE BOAT
03:18:03.972 --> 03:18:05.440
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK
03:18:05.506 --> 03:18:07.742
YOU VERY MUCH. WHERE GIBSON WE
03:18:07.809 --> 03:18:08.910
HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
03:18:08.977 --> 03:18:13.081
SKINNER. IN THE MOTION IS. D<c.cyan></c>
03:18:13.147 --> 03:18:13.848
PASS AS AMENDED, MADAM
03:18:13.915 --> 03:18:14.849
CONSULTANT, PLEASE CALL THE
03:18:14.916 --> 03:18:20.021
ROLL. SINCE A B 16 OH, EIGHT.
03:18:20.088 --> 03:18:24.726
BRADFORD. A TROLL BOGUE. NO, NO,
03:18:24.792 --> 03:18:30.832
KAMLAGER SKINNER. HI, MY WIENER.
03:18:30.898 --> 03:18:33.067
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE WILL
03:18:33.134 --> 03:18:34.269
KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
03:18:34.335 --> 03:18:50.451
MEMBERS.
03:18:57.558 --> 03:19:15.443
14.
03:19:15.510 --> 03:19:16.978
AND SOME WOMEN WERE GIBSON. WE
03:19:17.045 --> 03:19:18.613
HAVE YOU FOR AN ADDITIONAL BILL.
03:19:18.680 --> 03:19:20.615
YOUR PRESENCE HERE AND BY THE
03:19:20.682 --> 03:19:22.116
WAY, JUST OFF THE RECORD. GREAT
03:19:22.183 --> 03:19:25.520
TIE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I
03:19:25.586 --> 03:19:27.722
DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL CAN SEE
03:19:27.789 --> 03:19:28.990
IT, BUT HE'S GOT A MATCHING TIE
03:19:29.057 --> 03:19:32.527
AND HANDKERCHIEF. VERY STYLISH.
03:19:32.593 --> 03:19:35.430
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO WE WILL
03:19:35.496 --> 03:19:38.299
PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER 14 A B
03:19:38.366 --> 03:19:39.267
16 62, PLEASE PROCEED WHEN
03:19:39.334 --> 03:19:40.968
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU VERY
03:19:41.035 --> 03:19:42.870
MUCH, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
03:19:42.937 --> 03:19:43.771
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
03:19:43.838 --> 03:19:46.140
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 16 62,
03:19:46.207 --> 03:19:47.608
WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE AN EARLY
03:19:47.675 --> 03:19:49.177
NOTICE ON WHETHER AN
03:19:49.243 --> 03:19:51.145
INDIVIDUAL'S CRIMINAL RECORD
03:19:51.212 --> 03:19:53.648
WILL DISQUALIFY THEM FROM
03:19:53.715 --> 03:19:55.149
OBTAINING AN OCCUPATIONAL
03:19:55.216 --> 03:19:57.051
LICENSE BEFORE THEY INVEST
03:19:57.118 --> 03:19:57.952
EXPENSIVE TRAINING AND
03:19:58.019 --> 03:20:00.688
EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS. HAVING
03:20:00.755 --> 03:20:03.691
A CRIMINAL RECORD CANNOT MAKE
03:20:03.758 --> 03:20:06.194
CAN MAKE IT DIFFICULT OR EVEN
03:20:06.260 --> 03:20:08.896
IMPOSSIBLE BOARD INDIVIDUAL TO
03:20:08.963 --> 03:20:10.365
ENTER INTO THE WORKFORCE,
03:20:10.431 --> 03:20:12.200
ESPECIALLY IF THEY FEEL THAT
03:20:12.266 --> 03:20:13.801
REQUIRES AN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE
03:20:13.868 --> 03:20:17.438
WHEN AN EXAMINATION WHEN
03:20:17.505 --> 03:20:19.674
EXAMINING STATES THAT REQUIRES
03:20:19.741 --> 03:20:22.009
THE MOST OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE.
03:20:22.076 --> 03:20:23.511
CALIFORNIA RANKS AMONG THE
03:20:23.578 --> 03:20:27.014
HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY, HOWEVER
03:20:27.081 --> 03:20:29.984
, OVER 500 CIVILIANS PROVISIONS
03:20:30.051 --> 03:20:31.986
OF THE STATE LAW LIMIT ACCESS TO
03:20:32.053 --> 03:20:36.190
ENSURE LICENSURE. FOR PEOPLE
03:20:36.257 --> 03:20:37.892
WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS, ACCORDING
03:20:37.959 --> 03:20:39.360
TO A REPORT PUBLISHED BY THE
03:20:39.427 --> 03:20:42.530
INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE REQUIRES TO
03:20:42.597 --> 03:20:45.233
OBTAIN A LICENSE ARE AMONG THE
03:20:45.299 --> 03:20:46.501
MOST RIGOROUS, BASED ON HIGH
03:20:46.567 --> 03:20:49.570
COST AND LENGTHY EDUCATION.
03:20:49.637 --> 03:20:51.706
CALIFORNIA WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS
03:20:51.773 --> 03:20:53.207
. CALIFORNIANS WITH CRIMINAL
03:20:53.274 --> 03:20:54.709
RECORDS OFTEN FACE ADDITIONAL
03:20:54.776 --> 03:20:57.712
BARRIERS THAT DISCOURAGE THEM
03:20:57.779 --> 03:20:59.781
AND ALSO EXCLUDE THEM FROM A
03:20:59.847 --> 03:21:02.683
GOOD PAYING LICENSE JOB PEOPLE
03:21:02.750 --> 03:21:03.785
THAT ARE REJECTED FROM
03:21:03.851 --> 03:21:05.586
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE
03:21:05.653 --> 03:21:08.523
MORE LIKELY TO FALL INTO THE
03:21:08.589 --> 03:21:10.725
CYCLE OF CRIME, ACCORDING TO A
03:21:10.792 --> 03:21:12.293
MULTI YEAR STUDY FROM THE
03:21:12.360 --> 03:21:14.729
BROOKINGS INSTITUTE ABOUT 45% OF
03:21:14.796 --> 03:21:17.498
FORMERLY INCARCERATED AMERICANS
03:21:17.565 --> 03:21:18.699
WERE UNEMPLOYED ONE YEAR AFTER
03:21:18.766 --> 03:21:21.969
LEAVING PRISON. MEMBERS ARE
03:21:22.036 --> 03:21:24.539
REPRESENT A POOR DISTRICT IN
03:21:24.605 --> 03:21:28.009
CALIFORNIA AND ONE OF THOSE MAIN
03:21:28.075 --> 03:21:30.511
BARRIERS THAT PEOPLE WITH
03:21:30.578 --> 03:21:31.579
CRIMINAL RECORDS FACE WHEN
03:21:31.646 --> 03:21:32.880
TRYING TO APPLY FOR A LICENSE
03:21:32.947 --> 03:21:36.217
PROFESSION. IS THE EXPENSIVE
03:21:36.284 --> 03:21:37.885
TUITION THAT COMES WITH AN
03:21:37.952 --> 03:21:41.022
EXPENSIVE TRAINING AND COURSES.
03:21:41.088 --> 03:21:43.858
THIS MEANS TIME AND MONEY, WHICH
03:21:43.925 --> 03:21:46.661
IS A WHICH IS MOST IN MOST
03:21:46.727 --> 03:21:49.997
CASES, THEY DO NOT HAVE EITHER.
03:21:50.064 --> 03:21:52.200
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF
03:21:52.266 --> 03:21:54.235
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON PROGRAMS
03:21:54.302 --> 03:21:56.003
THAT COULD TAKE MONTHS AND YEARS
03:21:56.070 --> 03:21:58.840
TO ACCOMPLISH JUSTIFYING OUT
03:21:58.906 --> 03:22:00.208
THAT AT THE END OF THE WHOLE,
03:22:00.274 --> 03:22:02.076
ENTIRE PROGRESS THAT THEY ARE
03:22:02.143 --> 03:22:05.213
DENIED. THEY'RE DENIED WITH
03:22:05.279 --> 03:22:07.849
PAYING EXPENSIVE MONEY WITH
03:22:07.915 --> 03:22:09.917
TRAINING AND THEN FINDING OUT AT
03:22:09.984 --> 03:22:12.053
THE END OF THE DAY THAT THEY
03:22:12.119 --> 03:22:15.323
HAVE BEEN DENIED. A PERSPECTIVE
03:22:15.389 --> 03:22:17.525
A PERSPECTIVE, APPLICANTS WILL
03:22:17.592 --> 03:22:18.993
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT
03:22:19.060 --> 03:22:20.862
THEIR CRIMINAL RECORDS TO A
03:22:20.928 --> 03:22:22.230
BOARD THAT THEY'RE SEEKING A
03:22:22.296 --> 03:22:25.433
LICENSE FROM THIS BOARD WILL
03:22:25.500 --> 03:22:27.735
THEN BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE
03:22:27.802 --> 03:22:29.971
INFORMATION AND GET BACK TO THE
03:22:30.037 --> 03:22:32.507
INDIVIDUAL ON WHETHER THEY HAVE
03:22:32.573 --> 03:22:33.774
BEEN DENIED OR NOT. AND THIS
03:22:33.841 --> 03:22:35.710
POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT
03:22:35.776 --> 03:22:38.479
THIS PROCESS IS LETTING A PERSON
03:22:38.546 --> 03:22:41.482
KNOW BEFORE THEY SPEND ABSORBING
03:22:41.549 --> 03:22:42.783
AMOUNT OF MONEY AND GO THROUGH
03:22:42.850 --> 03:22:44.685
TRAINING. AT THE END OF IT ALL
03:22:44.752 --> 03:22:46.020
THEY CANNOT QUALIFY. THIS
03:22:46.087 --> 03:22:47.622
PROCESS WAS A LICENSE. LET THEM
03:22:47.688 --> 03:22:48.723
KNOW UPFRONT WHETHER OR NOT THEY
03:22:48.789 --> 03:22:50.958
QUALIFY. SO THAT THEY CAN ONCE
03:22:51.025 --> 03:22:52.026
SAVE MONEY OR LOOK FOR ANOTHER
03:22:52.093 --> 03:22:54.762
CAREER AND YOU LOOK AT LICENSED
03:22:54.829 --> 03:22:55.396
LIKE COSMETOLOGISTS, BARBERING
03:22:55.463 --> 03:22:57.865
OR DENTAL FIELDS ARE ONLY A FEW
03:22:57.932 --> 03:23:00.067
OF EXAMPLES OF CAREERS THAT WILL
03:23:00.134 --> 03:23:02.336
PROVIDE A STABLE EMPLOYMENT FOR
03:23:02.403 --> 03:23:03.938
INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS
03:23:04.005 --> 03:23:06.040
WHO WANTS TO GO IN THESE CAREERS
03:23:06.107 --> 03:23:07.041
AND THEY PAY EXORBITANT AMOUNT
03:23:07.108 --> 03:23:08.910
OF MONEY AND THEN THEY ARE
03:23:08.976 --> 03:23:09.577
DENIED. AND WE BELIEVE THAT AND
03:23:09.644 --> 03:23:12.613
THAT THIS WILL HELP INDIVIDUAL I
03:23:12.680 --> 03:23:14.916
AM IN THE LONG RUN, WANT TO KNOW
03:23:14.982 --> 03:23:17.018
WHAT THEIR FATE IS WHEN IT COMES
03:23:17.084 --> 03:23:19.887
DOWN TO THAT PROFESSIONAL
03:23:19.954 --> 03:23:21.355
THEY SHOULD, IN FACT, PURSUE
03:23:21.422 --> 03:23:23.090
AGAIN? THIS BILL HAS RECEIVED A
03:23:23.157 --> 03:23:25.293
LOT OF SUPPORT. THIS BILL IS
03:23:25.359 --> 03:23:26.761
STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY THE ANTI
03:23:26.827 --> 03:23:28.462
RECIDIVISM COALITION, CALIFORNIA
03:23:28.529 --> 03:23:29.931
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, THE UNITED
03:23:29.997 --> 03:23:31.999
STATES, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND
03:23:32.066 --> 03:23:33.534
MANY, MANY OTHERS JOINING ME TO
03:23:33.601 --> 03:23:35.736
PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY. IS
03:23:35.803 --> 03:23:39.407
JOSHUA GAINS THE GAINS THE
03:23:39.473 --> 03:23:40.575
COUNCIL OF STATE GOVERNMENT WHO
03:23:40.641 --> 03:23:41.409
SHOULD BE HERE? I THINK
03:23:41.475 --> 03:23:48.716
VIRTUALLY THANK YOU. I AGREE.
03:23:48.783 --> 03:23:49.984
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
03:23:50.051 --> 03:23:51.352
JOSHUA GAINES IS ON THE LINE.
03:23:51.419 --> 03:23:52.353
PERFECT. PLEASE PROCEED, SIR.
03:23:52.420 --> 03:23:57.625
WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU.
03:23:57.692 --> 03:23:59.226
YES MY NAME IS JOSH GAINES. I'M
03:23:59.293 --> 03:24:00.595
A PROJECT MANAGER OF THE
03:24:00.661 --> 03:24:01.562
ECONOMIC MOBILITY TEAM AT THE
03:24:01.629 --> 03:24:03.264
COUNCIL OF STATE GOVERNMENTS.
03:24:03.331 --> 03:24:04.498
JUSTICE CENTER. WE'RE
03:24:04.565 --> 03:24:06.067
NONPARTISAN, NONPROFIT
03:24:06.133 --> 03:24:07.068
MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION THAT
03:24:07.134 --> 03:24:08.235
BRINGS TOGETHER STATE AND LOCAL
03:24:08.302 --> 03:24:09.770
OFFICIALS AND SUBJECT MATTER.
03:24:09.837 --> 03:24:11.505
EXPERTS TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO
03:24:11.572 --> 03:24:12.707
JUSTICE ISSUES THAT ARE DRIVEN
03:24:12.773 --> 03:24:13.808
BY DATA AND NATIONAL BEST
03:24:13.874 --> 03:24:16.444
PRACTICES. AT THE OUTSET. I WANT
03:24:16.510 --> 03:24:18.779
TO STRESS THAT A B 16 62 IS
03:24:18.846 --> 03:24:21.749
ENTIRELY PROCEDURAL IN NATURE,
03:24:21.816 --> 03:24:22.650
AND IT'S LARGELY AN ECONOMIC
03:24:22.717 --> 03:24:24.752
BUILT AND AS SUCH, IT SHOULD
03:24:24.819 --> 03:24:26.053
HAVE LITTLE IMPLICATIONS FOR
03:24:26.120 --> 03:24:27.722
PUBLIC SAFETY. IT DOESN'T CHANGE
03:24:27.788 --> 03:24:29.123
THE EXTENT TO WHICH CRIMINAL
03:24:29.190 --> 03:24:31.225
HISTORY CAN BE CONSIDERED IN THE
03:24:31.292 --> 03:24:33.094
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING. PROCESS
03:24:33.160 --> 03:24:35.463
AND IN FACT, IT DOESN'T SPEAK AT
03:24:35.529 --> 03:24:36.831
ALL TO THE ISSUE OF WHETHER IT
03:24:36.897 --> 03:24:38.499
WORKERS CRIMINAL HISTORY CAN OR
03:24:38.566 --> 03:24:39.734
CANNOT BE USED TO DISQUALIFY
03:24:39.800 --> 03:24:40.601
THEM FROM RECEIVING AN
03:24:40.668 --> 03:24:43.571
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE. AS YOU
03:24:43.638 --> 03:24:44.972
HEARD FROM THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
03:24:45.039 --> 03:24:46.540
ALL THE BILL DOES IS CREATE A
03:24:46.607 --> 03:24:48.142
PROCESS FOR LICENSING BODIES
03:24:48.209 --> 03:24:49.577
CONSIDERED CRIMINAL HISTORY AT
03:24:49.644 --> 03:24:51.545
AN EARLIER POINT UPON A PARDON
03:24:51.612 --> 03:24:52.780
ME ALONG A PERSON'S PATHWAY TO
03:24:52.847 --> 03:24:55.816
LICENSE SHIP. AS IT STANDS
03:24:55.883 --> 03:24:57.118
CURRENTLY, WORKERS WHO MIGHT
03:24:57.184 --> 03:24:59.220
HAVE A DISQUALIFYING CONVICTION
03:24:59.286 --> 03:25:00.955
. UM AS YOU HEARD INVESTORS,
03:25:01.022 --> 03:25:03.124
TIME AND MONEY OFTEN MEASURED IN
03:25:03.190 --> 03:25:04.558
IN YEARS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS
03:25:04.625 --> 03:25:05.693
OF DOLLARS TO MEET GENERAL
03:25:05.760 --> 03:25:06.861
LICENSING REQUIREMENTS. THEY
03:25:06.927 --> 03:25:09.130
HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE THEY CAN
03:25:09.196 --> 03:25:09.997
FILE AN APPLICATION, AT WHICH
03:25:10.064 --> 03:25:11.098
POINT THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY
03:25:11.165 --> 03:25:12.833
WILL BE CONSIDERED. THAT
03:25:12.900 --> 03:25:15.002
REQUIRES THOSE WORKERS TO ASSUME
03:25:15.069 --> 03:25:16.570
ENORMOUS RISKS. THEY MUST MAKE
03:25:16.637 --> 03:25:18.606
THAT INVESTMENT UPFRONT WITH NO
03:25:18.673 --> 03:25:20.141
CERTAINTY ABOUT WHETHER THAT
03:25:20.207 --> 03:25:21.342
CRIMINAL HISTORY WILL ULTIMATELY
03:25:21.409 --> 03:25:23.210
DISQUALIFY THEM. THAT HAS A HUGE
03:25:23.277 --> 03:25:25.079
CHILLING OF THAT. THAT CAUSES
03:25:25.146 --> 03:25:27.515
WORKERS WHO WOULD LIKELY, YOU
03:25:27.581 --> 03:25:30.384
KNOW, BE ABLE TO GET THE LICENSE
03:25:30.451 --> 03:25:31.919
TO SELF SELECT OUT OF THE
03:25:31.986 --> 03:25:33.988
PURSUIT OF LICENSE WORK. IT'S
03:25:34.055 --> 03:25:35.289
ESSENTIALLY A GAMBLE THAT MANY
03:25:35.356 --> 03:25:38.025
PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE. 16
03:25:38.092 --> 03:25:39.460
62 PROVIDES A REALLY SIMPLE
03:25:39.527 --> 03:25:40.461
SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. HE
03:25:40.528 --> 03:25:41.762
CREATES A PROCESS THAT IS
03:25:41.829 --> 03:25:43.998
ENTIRELY OPTIONAL, BUT WHICH A
03:25:44.065 --> 03:25:45.666
PERSON CAN GET A DETERMINATION
03:25:45.733 --> 03:25:47.101
ABOUT THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY
03:25:47.168 --> 03:25:49.170
BEFORE MAKING THAT INVESTMENT,
03:25:49.236 --> 03:25:50.871
UH FOR TRAINING AND EDUCATION
03:25:50.938 --> 03:25:52.139
WORKERS WHO RECEIVE A FAVORABLE
03:25:52.206 --> 03:25:54.108
DETERMINATION AT THAT POINT CAN
03:25:54.175 --> 03:25:55.710
MAKE THE INVESTMENT CONFIDENT
03:25:55.776 --> 03:25:57.745
THAT IT WILL BEAR FRUIT SO LONG
03:25:57.812 --> 03:25:58.612
AS THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY
03:25:58.679 --> 03:26:00.781
DOESN'T GROW. IN THE MEANTIME,
03:26:00.848 --> 03:26:01.682
OF COURSE, AND THEN WORKERS WHO
03:26:01.749 --> 03:26:03.150
RECEIVED AN UNFAVORABLE
03:26:03.217 --> 03:26:04.385
DETERMINATION CAN PURSUE OTHER
03:26:04.452 --> 03:26:05.486
WORK WITHOUT LOSING THE VALUABLE
03:26:05.553 --> 03:26:07.688
TIME AND MONEY. UM THAT WOULD GO
03:26:07.755 --> 03:26:09.890
TOWARD THE PURSUIT OF LICENSES
03:26:09.957 --> 03:26:11.025
THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY AND THIS
03:26:11.092 --> 03:26:13.728
APPOINTMENT. I DO WANT TO STRESS
03:26:13.794 --> 03:26:15.229
THIS IS THIS IS NOTHING NEW.
03:26:15.296 --> 03:26:16.831
NATIONALLY THIS BILL IS MODELED
03:26:16.897 --> 03:26:17.932
AFTER SIMILAR LAWS HAVE BEEN
03:26:17.998 --> 03:26:19.033
ENACTED SEX, UH, SUPPOSEDLY
03:26:19.100 --> 03:26:21.635
IMPLEMENTED IN OVER 20 STATES
03:26:21.702 --> 03:26:22.870
NOW, MANY OF WHICH WE HAVE
03:26:22.937 --> 03:26:25.639
WORKED CLOSELY WITH SO THANK YOU
03:26:25.706 --> 03:26:26.640
AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, AND I'M
03:26:26.707 --> 03:26:27.975
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
03:26:28.042 --> 03:26:29.543
THAT THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE.
03:26:29.610 --> 03:26:32.213
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR GAINES,
03:26:32.279 --> 03:26:33.147
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY WILL
03:26:33.214 --> 03:26:34.315
NOW MOVE ON TO WITNESSES IN
03:26:34.381 --> 03:26:40.321
SUPPORT. OF A B 16 62 HERE IN
03:26:40.387 --> 03:26:41.555
ROOM 1 12. DO WE HAVE ANY
03:26:41.622 --> 03:26:50.865
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? GOOD
03:26:50.931 --> 03:26:52.566
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ELIJAH OR
03:26:52.633 --> 03:26:53.667
WERE ANTI R CITY WAS IN
03:26:53.734 --> 03:26:55.469
COALITION IN SUPPORT OF THIS
03:26:55.536 --> 03:26:59.573
BILL. THANK YOU. SEE NO
03:26:59.640 --> 03:27:01.108
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE ROOM 1
03:27:01.175 --> 03:27:02.510
12 WILL PROCEED WITH WITNESSES
03:27:02.576 --> 03:27:04.512
VIA THE TELECONFERENCE SERVICES
03:27:04.578 --> 03:27:06.013
. MADAM MODERATOR, IF YOU WOULD
03:27:06.080 --> 03:27:07.047
PLEASE PROMPTLY, INDIVIDUALS
03:27:07.114 --> 03:27:08.582
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
03:27:08.649 --> 03:27:14.388
A B 60 62, WE WILL BEGIN. IF YOU
03:27:14.455 --> 03:27:16.023
WOULD HAVE TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT
03:27:16.090 --> 03:27:17.758
OF A B 16 62, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
03:27:17.825 --> 03:27:25.833
THIS TIME. AND JUST A MONTH. WE
03:27:25.900 --> 03:27:43.050
JUST JUST HAD SOMEBODY QUEUE UP.
03:27:49.690 --> 03:27:56.897
OKAY AND. BORDERLINE. 1 99,
03:27:56.964 --> 03:28:02.102
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
03:28:02.169 --> 03:28:04.104
THAT THEY BRING A BATH WITH
03:28:04.171 --> 03:28:05.206
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
03:28:05.272 --> 03:28:09.009
INTO PART. THANK YOU. MADAM
03:28:09.076 --> 03:28:10.978
CHAIR, HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q AT
03:28:11.045 --> 03:28:11.712
THE TIME. THANK YOU, MR
03:28:11.779 --> 03:28:16.450
MODERATOR. UM HAVING HEARD FROM
03:28:16.517 --> 03:28:18.118
MUELLER SUPPORT WITNESSES WILL
03:28:18.185 --> 03:28:20.020
NOW CONTINUE WITH OUR OPPOSITION
03:28:20.087 --> 03:28:24.959
WITNESSES. WE DO HAVE OFFICIAL.
03:28:25.025 --> 03:28:27.995
LEAD WITNESSES. WE HAVE JONATHAN
03:28:28.062 --> 03:28:30.364
BURKE. I BELIEVE ALSO ON THE
03:28:30.431 --> 03:28:33.000
LINE IN LORETTA MELBY JONATHAN
03:28:33.067 --> 03:28:34.235
WITH THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF
03:28:34.301 --> 03:28:37.638
PSYCHOLOGY. ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
03:28:37.705 --> 03:28:40.908
YES, I AM. PERFECT LEPERS
03:28:40.975 --> 03:28:44.778
PROCEEDED WHEN YOU ARE READY.
03:28:44.845 --> 03:28:48.215
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BY MEMBERS
03:28:48.282 --> 03:28:53.220
OF THE. COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD
03:28:53.287 --> 03:28:54.688
OF PSYCHOLOGY VOTE TO OPPOSE THE
03:28:54.755 --> 03:28:59.026
BILL. THE BILL WOULD ALL PRICES
03:28:59.093 --> 03:29:00.561
EXPENSIVE AFRICANS WHO HAS BEEN
03:29:00.628 --> 03:29:01.962
CONVICTED OF A CRIME TO SUBMIT
03:29:02.029 --> 03:29:03.497
TO ANY BOARD OR BUREAU, A
03:29:03.564 --> 03:29:04.565
REQUEST FOR PRE APPLICATION
03:29:04.632 --> 03:29:05.799
TERMINATION THAT INCLUDES
03:29:05.866 --> 03:29:06.800
INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE
03:29:06.867 --> 03:29:07.334
APPLICANT. REGARDING THAT
03:29:07.401 --> 03:29:10.771
CRIMINAL CONVICTION. ON
03:29:10.838 --> 03:29:12.072
RECEIVING A PRE APPLICATION TO
03:29:12.139 --> 03:29:13.641
TERMINATION REQUEST. THIS BILL
03:29:13.707 --> 03:29:14.708
WOULD REQUIRE THE BOARD'S
03:29:14.775 --> 03:29:16.710
DETERMINING PERSPECTIVE WILL BE
03:29:16.777 --> 03:29:18.779
DISQUALIFIED FROM LICENSOR BY
03:29:18.846 --> 03:29:19.747
THE BOARD, BASED ON THE
03:29:19.813 --> 03:29:21.048
INFORMATION SUBMITTED WITH THE
03:29:21.115 --> 03:29:22.216
REQUEST AND DELIVER THAT
03:29:22.283 --> 03:29:23.284
DETERMINATION TO THE PERSPECTIVE
03:29:23.350 --> 03:29:27.221
APPLICANTS CURRENTLY, THE BOARD
03:29:27.288 --> 03:29:27.788
REVIEWS APPLICANTS CRIMINAL
03:29:27.855 --> 03:29:28.522
HISTORY AT THE END OF THE
03:29:28.589 --> 03:29:31.258
APPLICATION PROCESS. THE BILL
03:29:31.325 --> 03:29:32.159
WOULD REQUIRE OUR ENFORCEMENT
03:29:32.226 --> 03:29:33.994
UNITS TO COMPLETE THE REVIEW
03:29:34.061 --> 03:29:35.195
PROCESS FOR BOTH APPLICANTS AND
03:29:35.262 --> 03:29:37.564
POTENTIAL APPLICANTS. SPONSORED
03:29:37.631 --> 03:29:38.832
THE APPLICANT APPLICATION.
03:29:38.899 --> 03:29:40.434
PLEASE PASTE IN THIS REVIEW,
03:29:40.501 --> 03:29:41.835
WHILE THE BOARD APPRECIATES THE
03:29:41.902 --> 03:29:43.504
INCLUSION OF A $50 SCHEME THAT
03:29:43.570 --> 03:29:45.339
CAN BE ASSESSED TO MAKE THIS
03:29:45.406 --> 03:29:46.407
DETERMINATION THE BOARD DOES NOT
03:29:46.473 --> 03:29:47.508
FEEL THAT WAS SUFFICIENTLY COVER
03:29:47.574 --> 03:29:50.177
THE COST. WITH THIS WORK, AND HE
03:29:50.244 --> 03:29:52.146
HAS SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE
03:29:52.212 --> 03:29:53.514
COST IMPLICATIONS OF THE BILL.
03:29:53.580 --> 03:29:55.249
ALSO THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENTS
03:29:55.316 --> 03:29:56.583
DON'T ADDRESS POLICY, CONCERNS
03:29:56.650 --> 03:29:59.286
OF LIABILITY AND RISK IF THE
03:29:59.353 --> 03:30:00.654
BORDER IS REQUIRED TO RELY ON
03:30:00.721 --> 03:30:01.689
INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE
03:30:01.755 --> 03:30:03.490
APPLICANT WITH THE BOARD BE HELD
03:30:03.557 --> 03:30:04.525
LIABLE IF THE PREDETERMINATION
03:30:04.591 --> 03:30:07.461
IS INACCURATE. THE BOARD WOULD
03:30:07.528 --> 03:30:08.362
NEED ADDITIONAL LEGAL
03:30:08.429 --> 03:30:09.697
PROTECTIONS SO THAT A PRE
03:30:09.763 --> 03:30:11.832
APPLICANT CANNOT TAKE LEGAL
03:30:11.899 --> 03:30:12.933
ACTUALLY THINKS THE BOARD BASED
03:30:13.000 --> 03:30:16.270
ON ITS DETERMINATION FOR THESE
03:30:16.337 --> 03:30:17.671
REASONS FOR RESPECT REQUESTS
03:30:17.738 --> 03:30:19.807
THAT YOU VOTE NAY ON THE BILL.
03:30:19.873 --> 03:30:23.010
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
03:30:23.077 --> 03:30:25.646
MR BURKE. WE ALSO HAVE,UM
03:30:25.713 --> 03:30:27.481
LORETTA MELBY FROM THE BOARD OF
03:30:27.548 --> 03:30:28.549
REGISTERED NURSING. MISS MILLIE,
03:30:28.615 --> 03:30:33.554
ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM.
03:30:33.620 --> 03:30:35.522
CAN YOU HEAR ME? PLEASE PROCEED
03:30:35.589 --> 03:30:39.126
WHEN YOU'RE READY, MA'AM. THANK
03:30:39.193 --> 03:30:40.728
YOU. THE BORDER REGISTERED
03:30:40.794 --> 03:30:42.096
NURSING SECONDS WITH THE BORDER
03:30:42.162 --> 03:30:43.697
PSYCHOLOGY HAS JUST SHARED AND
03:30:43.764 --> 03:30:45.265
HAD A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL
03:30:45.332 --> 03:30:48.235
COMMENTS TO MAKE REGARDING THIS.
03:30:48.302 --> 03:30:49.603
THE BOARD DOES UNDERSTAND THE
03:30:49.670 --> 03:30:50.604
INTENT OF THIS BILL IS IN
03:30:50.671 --> 03:30:52.506
SUPPORT OF THE INTENT OF THE
03:30:52.573 --> 03:30:53.707
BILL. HOWEVER THERE IS MORE WORK
03:30:53.774 --> 03:30:55.776
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE
03:30:55.843 --> 03:30:56.877
THIS APPROPRIATE AND IMPLEMENT A
03:30:56.944 --> 03:31:00.714
BLE. THE ONE CONSIDERATION THAT
03:31:00.781 --> 03:31:02.249
I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THE
03:31:02.316 --> 03:31:04.752
BOARD MAKES DECISIONS ON, UM,
03:31:04.818 --> 03:31:07.121
FINGERPRINTS RECEIVED AS WELL AS
03:31:07.187 --> 03:31:11.592
SUBPOENAS. UM INFORMATION TO GET
03:31:11.658 --> 03:31:13.694
IN DEPTH. UM INFORMATION
03:31:13.761 --> 03:31:17.664
REGARDING THE CURRENT. TO
03:31:17.731 --> 03:31:19.466
ADEQUATELY MAKE THAT DECISION
03:31:19.533 --> 03:31:21.201
WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED IN THE
03:31:21.268 --> 03:31:24.371
CURRENT, UM, MAKEUP OF THIS BILL
03:31:24.438 --> 03:31:25.773
IS JUST FINGERPRINT INFORMATION
03:31:25.839 --> 03:31:26.774
AND NOT THE DETAILS OF THE CASE
03:31:26.840 --> 03:31:29.843
SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A PATIENT.
03:31:29.910 --> 03:31:33.947
ÁP THE DETERMINATION. THE FINAL
03:31:34.014 --> 03:31:35.983
PIECE IS SPECIFIC TO NURSING
03:31:36.050 --> 03:31:38.919
EDUCATION IN CALIFORNIA AND ALL
03:31:38.986 --> 03:31:40.254
OF THE NURSING EDUCATION
03:31:40.320 --> 03:31:42.222
THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. IS
03:31:42.289 --> 03:31:44.258
THAT THE STUDENTS ARE REQUIRED
03:31:44.324 --> 03:31:45.926
TO COMPLETE A CLINICAL ROTATION
03:31:45.993 --> 03:31:47.227
WHERE THEY GO INTO HEALTH CARE
03:31:47.294 --> 03:31:49.530
FACILITIES THAT REQUIRED
03:31:49.596 --> 03:31:52.499
EDUCATION IS PART OF THE PROGRAM
03:31:52.566 --> 03:31:53.300
AND THE BORDER REGISTERED
03:31:53.367 --> 03:31:55.002
NURSING DOES NOT HAVE ANY
03:31:55.069 --> 03:31:56.403
JURISDICTION OVER THOSE
03:31:56.470 --> 03:31:58.272
HEALTHCARE FACILITIES. WE ONLY
03:31:58.338 --> 03:31:59.239
HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE
03:31:59.306 --> 03:32:01.375
ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS. THEREFORE
03:32:01.442 --> 03:32:03.577
THOSE HEALTHCARE INSTITUTIONS
03:32:03.644 --> 03:32:05.712
REQUIRE DIFFERENT BACKGROUND
03:32:05.779 --> 03:32:08.715
CHECKS AND ADDITIONAL SCREENING
03:32:08.782 --> 03:32:13.120
CRITERIA AS WELL AS POSSIBLE.
03:32:13.187 --> 03:32:15.722
REQUIREMENTS WHERE THEY WILL NOT
03:32:15.789 --> 03:32:18.092
ALLOW STUDENTS TO CONTINUE WITH
03:32:18.158 --> 03:32:19.760
THAT SAID. IF WE MAKE A
03:32:19.827 --> 03:32:21.361
DETERMINATION AT THE BOARD THAT
03:32:21.428 --> 03:32:24.098
SAYS YES ON LICENSE YOU CAN BE
03:32:24.164 --> 03:32:25.799
LICENSED CLINICAL SETTING MAY
03:32:25.866 --> 03:32:27.734
SAY YOU CAN'T COME TO CLINICAL
03:32:27.801 --> 03:32:29.603
HERE AND THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY
03:32:29.670 --> 03:32:31.805
HALT THE PROGRESSION OF THE
03:32:31.872 --> 03:32:33.240
STUDENT INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL
03:32:33.307 --> 03:32:40.781
AND COULD NOT. IS A DAY OF
03:32:40.848 --> 03:32:45.319
CLASS. YEAH I LOVE SENSORS
03:32:45.385 --> 03:32:47.354
NOISE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS
03:32:47.421 --> 03:32:52.993
IT. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.
03:32:53.060 --> 03:32:55.596
STUDENT RECEIVED THE
03:32:55.662 --> 03:32:57.131
DETERMINATION FROM OUR BOARD
03:32:57.197 --> 03:32:58.732
THAT WE MAY LICENSE THEM UPON
03:32:58.799 --> 03:33:00.134
GRADUATION AND THE STUDENT
03:33:00.200 --> 03:33:01.802
ENROLLED INTO A CALIFORNIA BOARD
03:33:01.869 --> 03:33:04.705
APPROVED SCHOOL OF NURSING. AND
03:33:04.771 --> 03:33:06.406
IS NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE THE
03:33:06.473 --> 03:33:07.841
CLINICAL HOURS THAT IS NOT
03:33:07.908 --> 03:33:09.409
RELATED TO THE BORDER REGISTERED
03:33:09.476 --> 03:33:10.644
NURSING, BUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL
03:33:10.711 --> 03:33:12.346
CLINICAL FACILITIES. THAT PERSON
03:33:12.412 --> 03:33:13.847
MAY STILL ENCOURAGED THAT MAY
03:33:13.914 --> 03:33:16.116
STILL HAVE LOTS OF TIME AND MAY
03:33:16.183 --> 03:33:17.618
STILL NOT BE ABLE TO GRADUATE
03:33:17.684 --> 03:33:19.119
AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO
03:33:19.186 --> 03:33:19.987
COMPLETE AND GRADUATE, THEY
03:33:20.053 --> 03:33:21.989
WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE LICENSED
03:33:22.055 --> 03:33:23.991
IN CALIFORNIA AS A NURSE. THANK
03:33:24.057 --> 03:33:32.232
YOU. SO WE'RE NOW TAKING
03:33:32.299 --> 03:33:33.367
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION HERE IN
03:33:33.433 --> 03:33:35.202
ROOM 1 12 OR THEIR WITNESSES AND
03:33:35.269 --> 03:33:39.373
OPPOSITION. TO 16 62. SEEN A
03:33:39.439 --> 03:33:40.941
MODERATOR, LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
03:33:41.008 --> 03:33:42.075
LINES FOR WITNESSES AND
03:33:42.142 --> 03:33:46.713
OPPOSITION OF 16 62. AND IF YOU
03:33:46.780 --> 03:33:48.649
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF A
03:33:48.715 --> 03:33:50.684
B 16 62, PLEASE TRUST ONE AND
03:33:50.751 --> 03:33:57.658
ZERO AT THIS TIME. IN THIS YEAR.
03:33:57.724 --> 03:33:59.660
WE HAVE NO ONE IN HERE AT THIS
03:33:59.726 --> 03:34:02.196
TIME. OKAY, WE'LL BRING IT BACK
03:34:02.262 --> 03:34:03.363
TO THE COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY
03:34:03.430 --> 03:34:06.033
QUESTIONS? OUR CONCERNS ON 16 62
03:34:06.099 --> 03:34:09.336
SENATOR JOE BUCK. SO I'M IN
03:34:09.403 --> 03:34:14.074
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. BUT I DO. I
03:34:14.141 --> 03:34:16.777
DO SEE THE CONCERNS THAT THE
03:34:16.843 --> 03:34:19.146
OPPOSITION HAS POSED. SO MY
03:34:19.213 --> 03:34:20.347
FIRST QUESTION WAS THERE IS
03:34:20.414 --> 03:34:24.084
THERE. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY
03:34:24.151 --> 03:34:28.589
FOR LEGAL ACTION AGAINST? UH THE
03:34:28.655 --> 03:34:35.462
BOARD'S PRELIMINARIES? UM.
03:34:35.529 --> 03:34:37.231
DETERMINATION AND WHETHER OR NOT
03:34:37.297 --> 03:34:40.300
THE PERSON CAN MOVE FORWARD IN
03:34:40.367 --> 03:34:42.636
IN IN IN THAT FIELD IN THAT
03:34:42.703 --> 03:34:44.538
SPACE WE HAVE. MR GAINES COULD
03:34:44.605 --> 03:34:45.472
PROBABLY ANSWER THAT. BUT I
03:34:45.539 --> 03:34:48.775
WOULD SAY IF WE ARE SETTING UP
03:34:48.842 --> 03:34:49.977
FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING
03:34:50.043 --> 03:34:51.812
ABOUT A LOW PERCENTAGE OF
03:34:51.878 --> 03:34:53.513
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PAID THEIR
03:34:53.580 --> 03:34:56.216
DEBT TO SOCIETY WHO WANTS TO
03:34:56.283 --> 03:34:57.217
OBTAIN THEIR PROFESSIONAL
03:34:57.284 --> 03:34:58.919
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE. FIRST OF
03:34:58.986 --> 03:35:00.887
ALL, BUT IF WE PUT A PLAN IN
03:35:00.954 --> 03:35:03.156
PLACE, WHICH IS BILL DOES ALLOW
03:35:03.223 --> 03:35:03.724
THEM TO EITHER QUALIFY OR BE
03:35:03.790 --> 03:35:07.761
DENIED. BEFORE THEY START A
03:35:07.828 --> 03:35:09.529
PROGRAM THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO
03:35:09.596 --> 03:35:11.632
BE PART OF. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER
03:35:11.698 --> 03:35:13.867
LEGAL PART COMES IN BECAUSE
03:35:13.934 --> 03:35:14.501
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SETTING THE
03:35:14.568 --> 03:35:18.105
PROCESS AT THE AT THE BEGINNING.
03:35:18.171 --> 03:35:19.773
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GET AND
03:35:19.840 --> 03:35:22.709
RECEIVE AN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE
03:35:22.776 --> 03:35:25.779
, WHO HAS A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND
03:35:25.846 --> 03:35:27.681
OR CRIMINAL PAST TO OBTAIN THIS
03:35:27.748 --> 03:35:28.915
PROFESSIONAL LICENSE, SO WE'RE
03:35:28.982 --> 03:35:30.884
TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PROCESS.
03:35:30.951 --> 03:35:33.053
AT THE BEGINNING AND NOT THE
03:35:33.120 --> 03:35:34.554
END, AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER
03:35:34.621 --> 03:35:36.757
LEGAL, UM, LAWSUIT OR POTENTIAL
03:35:36.823 --> 03:35:39.159
LAWSUIT WOULD COME IN AT UNLESS
03:35:39.226 --> 03:35:39.993
MR GAINES COULD ARTICULATE
03:35:40.060 --> 03:35:40.994
FURTHER THAN THAT. I WELCOME
03:35:41.061 --> 03:35:43.997
THAT OPPORTUNITY. MAYBE LET ME
03:35:44.064 --> 03:35:45.599
JUST REALLY QUICKLY. UM ALSO
03:35:45.666 --> 03:35:50.070
ASKED MISS MEL B. TO EXPLAIN. I
03:35:50.137 --> 03:35:51.638
THINK SHE'S THE ONE THAT BROUGHT
03:35:51.705 --> 03:35:53.540
IT TO OUR ATTENTION AT THE VERY
03:35:53.607 --> 03:36:01.615
END. MM. YES THIS IS, UM LORETTA
03:36:01.682 --> 03:36:03.216
MELBY. WHAT WAS THE SPECIFIC
03:36:03.283 --> 03:36:03.817
QUESTION? I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T
03:36:03.884 --> 03:36:05.786
HEAR THAT. THE CONCERNS THAT YOU
03:36:05.852 --> 03:36:09.756
EXPRESSED WITH REGARDS TO, UM AT
03:36:09.823 --> 03:36:12.192
THE END IF PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE
03:36:12.259 --> 03:36:13.694
TO FINISH THE PROGRAM BECAUSE
03:36:13.760 --> 03:36:16.096
THEY COULD NOT GET I BELIEVE YOU
03:36:16.163 --> 03:36:19.132
SAID CLINICAL HOURS OR.
03:36:19.199 --> 03:36:20.334
SOMETHING IN THE PROCESS OF CAN
03:36:20.400 --> 03:36:24.571
HAVE THE ADDRESS THAT UM, SO IN
03:36:24.638 --> 03:36:26.139
PART OF NURSING EDUCATION, THEY
03:36:26.206 --> 03:36:27.107
ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE
03:36:27.174 --> 03:36:29.176
CLINICAL HOURS WITHIN A LICENSED
03:36:29.242 --> 03:36:31.411
HEALTH CARE FACILITY. EACH
03:36:31.478 --> 03:36:32.279
LICENSED HEALTHCARE FACILITY
03:36:32.346 --> 03:36:33.847
WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
03:36:33.914 --> 03:36:35.048
IS NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF
03:36:35.115 --> 03:36:37.017
THE BOARD REGISTERED NURSING
03:36:37.084 --> 03:36:38.752
THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH
03:36:38.819 --> 03:36:39.820
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
03:36:39.886 --> 03:36:43.156
HEALTH AND CMS, ETCETERA. UM AND
03:36:43.223 --> 03:36:44.925
SO THEY INDIVIDUALLY HAVE
03:36:44.991 --> 03:36:46.426
BACKGROUND REQUIREMENTS AND
03:36:46.493 --> 03:36:47.894
CLEARANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH
03:36:47.961 --> 03:36:49.596
ONE OF THEIR STUDENTS AS WELL AS
03:36:49.663 --> 03:36:51.732
THEIR EMPLOYEES. AND SO EVEN
03:36:51.798 --> 03:36:53.567
THOUGH THE BOARD COULD DETERMINE
03:36:53.633 --> 03:36:56.636
THAT LICENSING IS ABLE TO OCCUR
03:36:56.703 --> 03:36:59.673
THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION ABSENCE
03:36:59.740 --> 03:37:02.075
OF THE BOARDS IN INTERPRETATION
03:37:02.142 --> 03:37:04.444
THAT THE STUDENT CANNOT ATTEND
03:37:04.511 --> 03:37:05.579
CLINICAL BECAUSE OF A BACKGROUND
03:37:05.645 --> 03:37:10.650
ISSUE. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE
03:37:10.717 --> 03:37:13.653
THE CONCERNS SO THAT SUITED YES
03:37:13.720 --> 03:37:14.521
, SO THAT STUDENTS WOULD ENROLL
03:37:14.588 --> 03:37:16.690
IN THIS SCHOOL BASED ON THE
03:37:16.757 --> 03:37:17.424
BORDER REGISTERED NURSE SEEMS
03:37:17.491 --> 03:37:19.159
DETERMINATION THAT THEY COULD BE
03:37:19.226 --> 03:37:21.194
LICENSED UPON GRADUATION. BUT
03:37:21.261 --> 03:37:23.230
WHEN THEY'RE IN SCHOOL AND NOT
03:37:23.296 --> 03:37:25.665
ABLE TO GO TO CLINICAL, BASED ON
03:37:25.732 --> 03:37:27.868
A DECISION OF A HEALTH CARE
03:37:27.934 --> 03:37:29.436
FACILITY. THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE
03:37:29.503 --> 03:37:31.671
TO PROGRESS. THEY WOULD NOT BE
03:37:31.738 --> 03:37:32.873
ABLE TO GRADUATE AND THERE WHO
03:37:32.939 --> 03:37:34.708
WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE
03:37:34.775 --> 03:37:37.477
LICENSED. YOU SEEM A LITTLE
03:37:37.544 --> 03:37:43.750
CONFUSED. GO AHEAD. I THINK IT
03:37:43.817 --> 03:37:45.685
MIGHT BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I
03:37:45.752 --> 03:37:46.820
THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO
03:37:46.887 --> 03:37:48.855
ADDRESS GIVE THE POINTS UM, THE
03:37:48.922 --> 03:37:51.057
FIRST ISSUE A. I THINK IT IS
03:37:51.124 --> 03:37:53.260
REASONABLE ABOUT THE CLINICAL.
03:37:53.326 --> 03:37:55.495
UH BARRIERS THAT MAY EXIST APART
03:37:55.562 --> 03:37:56.630
FROM THE LICENSING BARRIERS, BUT
03:37:56.696 --> 03:38:00.167
THOSE ARE SEPARATE BARRIERS, UM
03:38:00.233 --> 03:38:01.535
, AND IN FACT MAY NEED TO BE
03:38:01.601 --> 03:38:03.870
ADDRESSED AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW,
03:38:03.937 --> 03:38:04.771
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARDS
03:38:04.838 --> 03:38:07.808
DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION OVER
03:38:07.874 --> 03:38:09.910
AS YOU HEARD. SO WHEN A BOARD
03:38:09.976 --> 03:38:11.344
UNDER THIS PROCESS SAYS, YOU
03:38:11.411 --> 03:38:12.946
KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO
03:38:13.013 --> 03:38:13.580
DISQUALIFY YOU FROM LICENSE TO
03:38:13.647 --> 03:38:15.882
THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS IN THE
03:38:15.949 --> 03:38:16.483
BOARD WILL NOT DISQUALIFY YOU
03:38:16.550 --> 03:38:17.451
FROM LIFE INSURANCE, NOT A
03:38:17.517 --> 03:38:18.652
GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
03:38:18.718 --> 03:38:20.554
GET A JOB. IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE
03:38:20.620 --> 03:38:22.756
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO
03:38:22.823 --> 03:38:23.390
NURSING SCHOOL OR BE QUALIFIED
03:38:23.457 --> 03:38:26.326
FOR ANY CLINICAL ROTATION, UM,
03:38:26.393 --> 03:38:28.328
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON TWO OTHER
03:38:28.395 --> 03:38:29.563
POINTS QUICKLY. UM
03:38:29.629 --> 03:38:31.097
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MENTIONED THAT
03:38:31.164 --> 03:38:32.299
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOW
03:38:32.365 --> 03:38:33.500
PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE, AND THAT
03:38:33.567 --> 03:38:35.101
REALLY IS TRUE, ESPECIALLY WHEN
03:38:35.168 --> 03:38:35.669
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL
03:38:35.735 --> 03:38:37.704
PROFESSIONS. THERE'S CURRENTLY A
03:38:37.771 --> 03:38:38.672
SEVEN YEAR ATCH OUT FOR
03:38:38.738 --> 03:38:40.340
CRIMINAL HISTORY CONSIDERATION
03:38:40.407 --> 03:38:43.210
AND MOST LIKELY PAINT BOARD. UM
03:38:43.276 --> 03:38:44.678
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SO
03:38:44.744 --> 03:38:46.213
AFTER SEVEN YEARS WITHOUT A
03:38:46.279 --> 03:38:47.914
CONVICTION, UM THESE ARE NOT
03:38:47.981 --> 03:38:49.783
BARRIERS THAT PEOPLE WILL EVEN
03:38:49.850 --> 03:38:51.184
BE FACING. THIS WILL ONLY AFFECT
03:38:51.251 --> 03:38:52.619
AND REALLY BE NEEDED BY PEOPLE.
03:38:52.686 --> 03:38:53.720
UM, WITHIN THAT SEVEN YEAR
03:38:53.787 --> 03:38:56.490
WINDOW. UM FINALLY, THE QUESTION
03:38:56.556 --> 03:38:58.792
OF LEGAL LIABILITY. THAT'S NOT
03:38:58.859 --> 03:38:59.826
SOMETHING WE'VE COME ACROSS MANY
03:38:59.893 --> 03:39:01.895
OF THE 20 PLUS STATES THAT HAVE
03:39:01.962 --> 03:39:04.197
IMPLEMENTED THIS STUFF FAR THE
03:39:04.264 --> 03:39:06.366
DETERMINATION REALLY JUST SAYS
03:39:06.433 --> 03:39:08.201
BASED ON WHAT YOU SUBMITTED TO
03:39:08.268 --> 03:39:10.504
US AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. WE
03:39:10.570 --> 03:39:11.771
ARE NOT GOING TO DISQUALIFYING
03:39:11.838 --> 03:39:15.175
SO AS LONG AS YOU KNOW THAT THAT
03:39:15.242 --> 03:39:16.543
INFORMATION SUBMITTED HIS
03:39:16.610 --> 03:39:18.144
ACCURATE AND DOESN'T CHANGE BY
03:39:18.211 --> 03:39:19.713
THE TIME A PERSON IS READY TO
03:39:19.779 --> 03:39:22.048
APPLY FOR LICENSURE. UM THERE
03:39:22.115 --> 03:39:23.583
OUGHT NOT TO BE ILLEGAL ISSUE
03:39:23.650 --> 03:39:26.086
AND IN FACT, THE BILL IS VERY
03:39:26.152 --> 03:39:26.720
CLEAR THAT A, YOU KNOW,
03:39:26.786 --> 03:39:28.221
UNFAVORABLE DETERMINATION OF THE
03:39:28.288 --> 03:39:30.757
VISION IS NOT HIMSELF IN DENIAL.
03:39:30.824 --> 03:39:31.791
LICENSURE PERSON TEACH STILL
03:39:31.858 --> 03:39:34.761
COME BACK IF THEY CHOOSE. UM AND
03:39:34.828 --> 03:39:36.296
APPLY FOR LICENSE OR THROUGH THE
03:39:36.363 --> 03:39:40.767
REGULAR MEANS. OKAY PERFECT. AND
03:39:40.834 --> 03:39:42.936
ONE LAST QUESTION. CAN I JUST DO
03:39:43.003 --> 03:39:44.671
ONE MORE POINT OF CLARIFICATION,
03:39:44.738 --> 03:39:45.472
TOO, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT
03:39:45.539 --> 03:39:47.340
NUMBERS HERE JUST REALLY, REALLY
03:39:47.407 --> 03:39:48.375
QUICK. WE HAVE CURRENTLY RIGHT
03:39:48.441 --> 03:39:50.443
NOW ABOUT 20,000 NURSING
03:39:50.510 --> 03:39:52.012
STUDENTS ANNUALLY AND MOLDED TO
03:39:52.078 --> 03:39:53.647
OUR SCHOOL. AND ON THE LAST
03:39:53.713 --> 03:39:55.582
REPORT THAT I RECEIVED, WE HAD
03:39:55.649 --> 03:39:58.118
50,000 APPLICANTS. SO WE ARE AT
03:39:58.184 --> 03:40:01.054
THE BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING
03:40:01.121 --> 03:40:02.589
OF POTENTIAL APPLICANTS. AND SO,
03:40:02.656 --> 03:40:07.060
UM THAT'S WHY WE'RE RAISING OUR
03:40:07.127 --> 03:40:08.595
CONCERNS, ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND
03:40:08.662 --> 03:40:10.797
THAT COMPLETE PURPOSE OF THIS
03:40:10.864 --> 03:40:12.299
BILL AND OUR SUPPORT IN SUPPORT
03:40:12.365 --> 03:40:14.367
OF THAT PURPOSE, IT'S UM IT MAY
03:40:14.434 --> 03:40:16.903
NOT BE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT CAN
03:40:16.970 --> 03:40:18.505
BE CARRIED OUT EASILY AT THIS
03:40:18.572 --> 03:40:19.673
POINT THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY
03:40:19.739 --> 03:40:25.045
FURTHER. UM. DISCONTENT BETWEEN
03:40:25.111 --> 03:40:27.414
THE BOARD AND NURSING SCHOOLS
03:40:27.480 --> 03:40:29.182
WHERE A STUDENT POTENTIAL
03:40:29.249 --> 03:40:30.317
STUDENT COULD TAKE OUR DECISION
03:40:30.383 --> 03:40:33.920
AND TRY TO GET UM, ENROLLMENT
03:40:33.987 --> 03:40:36.222
GAIN ENROLLMENT BY SAYING, WELL,
03:40:36.289 --> 03:40:37.724
LOOK, THE BOARD SAYS I CAN BE
03:40:37.791 --> 03:40:39.793
LICENSED. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO
03:40:39.859 --> 03:40:41.661
TO CLINICAL. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO
03:40:41.728 --> 03:40:42.862
GO TO YOUR SCHOOL. THAT'S WHY
03:40:42.929 --> 03:40:44.798
WE'RE BRINGING UP THIS. THIS, UM
03:40:44.864 --> 03:40:45.799
ISSUES FOR CONSIDERATION. MR
03:40:45.865 --> 03:40:50.704
SKINNER. IF THAT'S THE ISSUE,
03:40:50.770 --> 03:40:52.772
THEN HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING WITH
03:40:52.839 --> 03:40:54.841
THE AUTHOR TO COME UP WITH THE
03:40:54.908 --> 03:40:55.976
LANGUAGE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
03:40:56.042 --> 03:40:56.810
ENTIRELY UNFAIR TO HAVE UM, THE
03:40:56.876 --> 03:41:01.815
STUDENTS. BE IN A SITUATION
03:41:01.881 --> 03:41:03.016
WHERE THEY GO THROUGH ALL THE
03:41:03.083 --> 03:41:04.084
EDUCATION AND CAN'T GET A
03:41:04.150 --> 03:41:05.919
LICENSE. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT
03:41:05.986 --> 03:41:06.820
SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE OBJECTION
03:41:06.886 --> 03:41:08.388
TO THE PRINCIPLE THAT IF YOU SEE
03:41:08.455 --> 03:41:10.690
A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE OF
03:41:10.757 --> 03:41:12.726
HOW WE'RE TRYING TO THE AUTHOR
03:41:12.792 --> 03:41:14.828
IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL
03:41:14.894 --> 03:41:17.163
. THEN YOU WORK WITH HIM TO COME
03:41:17.230 --> 03:41:18.164
UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT
03:41:18.231 --> 03:41:19.265
ACCOMPLISHES THE GOAL, BUT THAT
03:41:19.332 --> 03:41:22.002
YOU CAN WORK WITH CORRECT. WE
03:41:22.068 --> 03:41:23.536
HAVE TAKEN OUR BOARD POSITION WE
03:41:23.603 --> 03:41:25.572
DID SUPPORT WE DID SUBMIT
03:41:25.639 --> 03:41:26.606
OPPOSITION LETTERS WITH OUR
03:41:26.673 --> 03:41:28.575
RACING BEHIND THAT WE HAVE NOT
03:41:28.642 --> 03:41:30.076
BEEN CONTACTED SENSE TO HAVE ANY
03:41:30.143 --> 03:41:31.444
ANY CONVERSATION. BUT, YES, WE
03:41:31.511 --> 03:41:32.445
DID FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND ARE
03:41:32.512 --> 03:41:33.680
DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE. THANK
03:41:33.747 --> 03:41:37.050
YOU. RIGHT WELL, I'M NOT. I'M
03:41:37.117 --> 03:41:40.487
NOT RAISING THAT. YOU JUST
03:41:40.553 --> 03:41:42.689
DESCRIBED THAT YOU'RE NOT REALLY
03:41:42.756 --> 03:41:44.090
IN OPPOSITION TO THE PRINCIPAL.
03:41:44.157 --> 03:41:45.625
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO A
03:41:45.692 --> 03:41:48.061
PROCESS AND I WOULD HOPE THAT IF
03:41:48.128 --> 03:41:50.063
YOU'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THE
03:41:50.130 --> 03:41:51.031
PRINCIPLE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE
03:41:51.097 --> 03:41:51.931
CONTACTED THE AUTHOR YOURSELF
03:41:51.998 --> 03:41:53.933
AND SUGGESTED WAYS THAT IT WOULD
03:41:54.000 --> 03:41:59.372
WORK. WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO
03:41:59.439 --> 03:42:06.012
SO. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. SO. I'M
03:42:06.079 --> 03:42:07.147
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT
03:42:07.213 --> 03:42:10.016
PROCESS. FIRST OF ALL. IF I MAY
03:42:10.083 --> 03:42:11.084
THROUGH THE CHAIR AS
03:42:11.151 --> 03:42:14.754
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. DO YOU
03:42:14.821 --> 03:42:16.289
UNDERSTAND THAT THE THOUGHT
03:42:16.356 --> 03:42:17.857
PROCESS OR THE CONCERNS THAT
03:42:17.924 --> 03:42:20.794
THEY HAVE WITH REGARDS TO, UM
03:42:20.860 --> 03:42:24.531
THEIR PRELIMINARY, UM.
03:42:24.597 --> 03:42:26.066
EXAMINATION OF THEIR
03:42:26.132 --> 03:42:27.333
APPLICATIONS, SAYING, OKAY, WE
03:42:27.400 --> 03:42:28.935
BELIEVE THAT YOU DO QUALIFY TO
03:42:29.002 --> 03:42:31.371
BE IN THE PROGRAM. THEN THEY GO
03:42:31.438 --> 03:42:33.273
THROUGH THE PROGRAM. AND THEN
03:42:33.339 --> 03:42:36.309
THEY FACE CHALLENGES WITH
03:42:36.376 --> 03:42:37.477
REGARDS TO WHERE THEY CAN BE
03:42:37.544 --> 03:42:41.047
PLACED TO DO THEIR CLINICAL. UM
03:42:41.114 --> 03:42:43.249
HOURS BECAUSE OF THE REQUISITES
03:42:43.316 --> 03:42:46.753
THAT THOSE PARTICULAR UM.
03:42:46.820 --> 03:42:49.155
CLINICS OR HOSPITALS MAY HAVE
03:42:49.222 --> 03:42:54.094
SO. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE
03:42:54.160 --> 03:42:57.063
TO BOTH OF YOU, UM WOULD DO YOU
03:42:57.130 --> 03:43:00.066
FORESEE MISS MELBY LANGUAGE THAT
03:43:00.133 --> 03:43:05.538
COULD FACILITATE AND PROTECT, UM. OR ACCOMMODATE THE CONCERNS
03:43:05.605 --> 03:43:07.674
THAT YOU HAVE AND
03:43:07.741 --> 03:43:08.942
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON, WOULD
03:43:09.008 --> 03:43:10.944
YOU BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM
03:43:11.010 --> 03:43:13.279
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A
03:43:13.346 --> 03:43:14.380
WITHOUT QUESTION? I WAS MORE
03:43:14.447 --> 03:43:15.515
THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM.
03:43:15.582 --> 03:43:17.984
UM, IN TERMS OF BECAUSE THEY
03:43:18.051 --> 03:43:19.119
SUPPORT THE PRINCIPLE. THIS IS
03:43:19.185 --> 03:43:21.154
THE PROCESS AND I'M OPEN AS AN
03:43:21.221 --> 03:43:24.224
OPEN DOOR CAN BE TO TAKING THEIR
03:43:24.290 --> 03:43:25.825
SUGGESTIONS AND TRY TO GET THEM
03:43:25.892 --> 03:43:28.661
ON BOARD WITH US. LISTEN WE ARE
03:43:28.728 --> 03:43:30.597
THIS BILL IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE
03:43:30.663 --> 03:43:31.865
THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DESIRE TO
03:43:31.931 --> 03:43:33.967
GET AN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE.
03:43:34.033 --> 03:43:36.236
EITHER GET ONE OR DON'T START A
03:43:36.302 --> 03:43:38.271
PROCESS THAT IS EXPENSIVE AND
03:43:38.338 --> 03:43:40.573
TIME CONSUMING, SO THEY ARE JUST
03:43:40.640 --> 03:43:42.709
NO UPFRONT THEY THEY CAN QUALIFY
03:43:42.776 --> 03:43:44.244
OR THEY CAN'T AND THAT'S THE
03:43:44.310 --> 03:43:45.678
PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR BILL
03:43:45.745 --> 03:43:48.114
BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE WHO
03:43:48.181 --> 03:43:49.616
HAVE GOTTEN OUT WHO HAVE PAID
03:43:49.682 --> 03:43:50.583
THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY WHO
03:43:50.650 --> 03:43:51.885
STARTED PROCESS AND AT THE END
03:43:51.951 --> 03:43:53.787
OF THE PROCESS THEY HAVE BEEN
03:43:53.853 --> 03:43:56.289
DENIED. AND THAT YOU KNOW THEIR
03:43:56.356 --> 03:43:57.323
SELF ESTEEM, SELF CONFIDENCE
03:43:57.390 --> 03:44:00.293
TIME MONEY. THAT MONEY THAT
03:44:00.360 --> 03:44:01.895
CAN'T GET BACK IN THE NORTH. CAN
03:44:01.961 --> 03:44:03.797
THAT TIME GET BACK, AND THIS
03:44:03.863 --> 03:44:05.498
BILL SEEKS TO TRY TO RESOLVE AND
03:44:05.565 --> 03:44:06.900
TRYING TO RECTIFY THAT
03:44:06.966 --> 03:44:08.434
PARTICULAR SITUATION FROM
03:44:08.501 --> 03:44:10.236
HAPPENING FROM FROM ANYONE. I
03:44:10.303 --> 03:44:11.471
EVEN HEARD THE SPEAKER TALK
03:44:11.538 --> 03:44:13.206
ABOUT 50,000 APPLICANTS, WHICH
03:44:13.273 --> 03:44:14.741
MEANS THAT THEY ARE OVERWHELMED
03:44:14.808 --> 03:44:17.043
. BUT THIS IS A SMALL PERCENTAGE
03:44:17.110 --> 03:44:18.011
OF INDIVIDUALS THAT THIS WOULD
03:44:18.077 --> 03:44:19.913
BE AFFECTED BY AND WE WANT TO
03:44:19.979 --> 03:44:21.648
MAKE SURE THOSE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S
03:44:21.714 --> 03:44:23.349
TRYING TO GET INTO A
03:44:23.416 --> 03:44:25.485
PROFESSIONAL CAREER. HAVE AN
03:44:25.552 --> 03:44:27.687
OPPORTUNITY OR TOLD THEY CAN'T
03:44:27.754 --> 03:44:29.622
DO IT. FOR WHATEVER THE PROHIBIT
03:44:29.689 --> 03:44:31.324
ATION. MAYBE SO THEY CAN MOVE
03:44:31.391 --> 03:44:32.892
ON. BUT AT LEAST THEY DON'T HAVE
03:44:32.959 --> 03:44:34.394
TO WASTE TIME AND MONEY GOING
03:44:34.460 --> 03:44:35.862
AFTER SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN
03:44:35.929 --> 03:44:37.697
QUALIFY FOR BECAUSE AND WE
03:44:37.764 --> 03:44:39.933
SHOULD NOT HAVE THEIR CRIMINAL
03:44:39.999 --> 03:44:41.734
RECORDS SHOULD NOT BE A LIFE
03:44:41.801 --> 03:44:42.735
SENTENCE OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND
03:44:42.802 --> 03:44:44.437
POVERTY, AND THAT'S THE CRUX OF
03:44:44.504 --> 03:44:47.073
THIS MEAL. I THINK I THINK
03:44:47.140 --> 03:44:48.942
BOTTOM LINE. I THINK IT IS. IT'S
03:44:49.008 --> 03:44:51.211
ALL ABOUT DISCLOSURE AND
03:44:51.277 --> 03:44:52.111
UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS. I
03:44:52.178 --> 03:44:53.346
THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT
03:44:53.413 --> 03:44:55.148
PART AND FINDING THE CORRECT
03:44:55.215 --> 03:44:57.851
LANGUAGE THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES
03:44:57.917 --> 03:44:59.352
THE CONCERNS FOR DISCLOSURE
03:44:59.419 --> 03:45:01.221
PURPOSES. I THINK THAT'S THE
03:45:01.287 --> 03:45:01.754
BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I'M
03:45:01.821 --> 03:45:05.859
HEARING. UM BY THE OPPOSITION IS
03:45:05.925 --> 03:45:08.962
JUST THEY CAN ENSURE AND SAY YOU
03:45:09.028 --> 03:45:10.129
QUALIFY TO GO THROUGH OUR
03:45:10.196 --> 03:45:11.064
PROGRAM, HOWEVER, THEY WILL BE
03:45:11.130 --> 03:45:15.568
POSSIBLE. CHALLENGES OR
03:45:15.635 --> 03:45:18.037
OBSTACLES THAT YOU FACE IN IN
03:45:18.104 --> 03:45:19.606
DOING YOUR CLINICAL HOURS BASED
03:45:19.672 --> 03:45:23.710
ON ANOTHER AGENCY'S ABILITY TO
03:45:23.776 --> 03:45:25.912
HOST YOU. I THINK THAT'S THE
03:45:25.979 --> 03:45:27.313
MAJOR CONCERN IF I UNDERSTAND
03:45:27.380 --> 03:45:29.015
CORRECTLY, SO TRYING TO FIGURE
03:45:29.082 --> 03:45:31.584
OUT WHAT GIVES ME HOPE, THOUGH,
03:45:31.651 --> 03:45:32.785
IS THE FACT THAT SHE DID SAY
03:45:32.852 --> 03:45:36.289
THAT THERE IS DIFFERENT
03:45:36.356 --> 03:45:38.191
REQUISITES FOR DIFFERENT
03:45:38.258 --> 03:45:40.927
FACILITIES WHO HOST THE CLINICAL
03:45:40.994 --> 03:45:42.328
HOURS, SO MAYBE IN ONE FACILITY
03:45:42.395 --> 03:45:45.031
, THEY MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO DO
03:45:45.098 --> 03:45:45.798
THEIR CLINICAL HOURS. BUT IN
03:45:45.865 --> 03:45:48.434
ANOTHER, THEY MAY BE OPEN. SO
03:45:48.501 --> 03:45:49.669
UM, I THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT
03:45:49.736 --> 03:45:53.773
DISCLOSURE. AND, UM AND CLEAR
03:45:53.840 --> 03:45:55.742
LANGUAGES TO THE POSSIBILITIES.
03:45:55.808 --> 03:45:56.609
I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHERE YOU
03:45:56.676 --> 03:45:58.578
HAVE TO GO. SO THANK YOU VERY
03:45:58.645 --> 03:46:01.948
MUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH I FORGOT
03:46:02.015 --> 03:46:03.549
WHERE WE WERE IN THIS, SO WE'VE
03:46:03.616 --> 03:46:04.584
TAKEN ALL THE WITNESSES AND
03:46:04.651 --> 03:46:06.653
OPPOSITION WHEN I VOTE, OKAY?
03:46:06.719 --> 03:46:07.420
AND WE HAD QUESTIONS FROM
03:46:07.487 --> 03:46:08.955
COMMITTEE THAT WAS JOBURG. ANY
03:46:09.022 --> 03:46:09.889
OTHER QUESTIONS? SENATOR
03:46:09.956 --> 03:46:14.894
SCANNER. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A DO
03:46:14.961 --> 03:46:17.664
PASS AS AMENDED. IS THERE A
03:46:17.730 --> 03:46:23.636
MOTION? BEEN MOVED. THANK YOU. I
03:46:23.703 --> 03:46:24.771
DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE
03:46:24.837 --> 03:46:25.872
AMENDMENTS WERE THEIR AMENDMENTS
03:46:25.939 --> 03:46:29.442
IN THIS ARE WE ON 16? NO I'M
03:46:29.509 --> 03:46:31.511
SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT 16 08, AND
03:46:31.577 --> 03:46:33.846
WE'RE ON 16 62. NO NO AMENDMENTS
03:46:33.913 --> 03:46:37.283
DO PASS THE APPROPRIATIONS. ALL
03:46:37.350 --> 03:46:39.152
RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
03:46:39.218 --> 03:46:43.122
SENATOR SHOWBOAT. UM MR GIBSON.
03:46:43.189 --> 03:46:44.490
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
03:46:44.557 --> 03:46:46.092
EXPECTED? OKAY THAT WAS YOUR
03:46:46.159 --> 03:46:47.260
CLOTHES. UM, COUNCIL, PLEASE
03:46:47.327 --> 03:46:51.464
CALL THE ROLL. A B 16 62
03:46:51.531 --> 03:46:54.233
BRADFORD COHEN. VOGUE VOGUE. I
03:46:54.300 --> 03:46:56.803
KAMLAGER SKINNER SKINNER, I
03:46:56.869 --> 03:47:01.474
WIENER. THAT MEASURE HAS THREE
03:47:01.541 --> 03:47:03.209
VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
03:47:03.276 --> 03:47:04.277
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. NOW WE'RE
03:47:04.344 --> 03:47:07.613
ONTO YOUR LAST ITEM. 1924 THAT
03:47:07.680 --> 03:47:09.782
IS CORRECT. AND I WILL TRY TO
03:47:09.849 --> 03:47:11.150
MAKE THIS ONE. VERY QUICK. THANK
03:47:11.217 --> 03:47:12.986
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
03:47:13.052 --> 03:47:14.420
ASSEMBLY BILL. 1924 WITH SIX TO
03:47:14.487 --> 03:47:15.755
REDUCE THE BARRIERS TO
03:47:15.822 --> 03:47:18.191
EMPLOYMENT FOR THOSE SENTENCED
03:47:18.257 --> 03:47:20.426
TO PROBATION BY STREAMLINING THE
03:47:20.493 --> 03:47:22.161
PROCESS TO OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE
03:47:22.228 --> 03:47:23.696
OF REHABILITATION, ALTHOUGH THEY
03:47:23.763 --> 03:47:26.232
WERE CONVICTED OR LESS SERIOUS
03:47:26.299 --> 03:47:29.602
CRIMES. UM THERE IS A GROUP OF
03:47:29.669 --> 03:47:31.704
PEOPLE THAT FACE MORE BARRIERS
03:47:31.771 --> 03:47:32.939
THAN OTHERS WHO HAVE SERVED
03:47:33.006 --> 03:47:36.476
PRISON SENTENCE. UM THEY MADE A
03:47:36.542 --> 03:47:38.077
MISTAKE PAID THEIR DEBT TO
03:47:38.144 --> 03:47:41.381
SOCIETY AND SINCE THEN HAVE BEEN
03:47:41.447 --> 03:47:43.416
FACED WITH MANY ROADBLOCKS,
03:47:43.483 --> 03:47:44.384
ROADBLOCKS AND OBSTACLES IN
03:47:44.450 --> 03:47:45.618
TERMS OF WRITING A NEW NARRATIVE
03:47:45.685 --> 03:47:49.122
MOVING FORWARD. UM WHEN SOMEONE
03:47:49.188 --> 03:47:50.690
IS DENIED A SECOND CHANCE TO
03:47:50.757 --> 03:47:53.259
PROVIDE FOR HIS OR HER FAMILY,
03:47:53.326 --> 03:47:55.161
THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY BEARS THE
03:47:55.228 --> 03:47:57.663
SOCIETY ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT
03:47:57.730 --> 03:47:59.298
THAT BRINGS A CRIMINAL RECORD
03:47:59.365 --> 03:48:01.100
SHOULD NOT BE A LIFE SENTENCE TO
03:48:01.167 --> 03:48:03.903
EMPLOYMENT AND ALSO POVERTY. AND
03:48:03.970 --> 03:48:04.971
SO WITH ME TO PROVIDE SUPPORTING
03:48:05.038 --> 03:48:10.443
TESTIMONY IS, UH J. STALLWORTH
03:48:10.510 --> 03:48:11.611
AND ALSO MISS HOLLY FROM
03:48:11.677 --> 03:48:13.880
CALIFORNIA'S SAFE AND JUSTICE.
03:48:13.946 --> 03:48:15.581
TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR
03:48:15.648 --> 03:48:21.054
ASSEMBLY BILL 1924. SO YOU DO
03:48:21.120 --> 03:48:22.989
NOT HAVE GILBERT JOHNSON OR ALI
03:48:23.056 --> 03:48:25.491
KIRBY. THOSE ARE NOT YOUR
03:48:25.558 --> 03:48:26.826
PRIMARY WITNESSES. THEY ARE
03:48:26.893 --> 03:48:28.027
THOUGHT YOU SAID A DIFFERENT
03:48:28.094 --> 03:48:32.799
NAME. I'M SORRY. UM OH, MY. OH!
03:48:32.865 --> 03:48:36.869
WE'LL START WITH I'M AVAILABLE.
03:48:36.936 --> 03:48:39.005
WE HAVE JOY STAR WORTH. I DIDN'T
03:48:39.072 --> 03:48:40.773
HAVE THAT NAME. OKAY SO CAN YOU
03:48:40.840 --> 03:48:43.576
STILL HAVE JOHNSON AND KIRBY?
03:48:43.643 --> 03:48:45.778
WHICH ONE? OH, JOHNSON. BUT UM
03:48:45.845 --> 03:48:48.981
STALLWORTH AND ALSO HOLLY. OKAY?
03:48:49.048 --> 03:48:50.116
WE'LL START WITH MISS
03:48:50.183 --> 03:48:51.084
STALLWORTH. YOU HAVE TWO
03:48:51.150 --> 03:48:55.721
MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON HERE IN
03:48:55.788 --> 03:48:57.223
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. MY NAME IS
03:48:57.290 --> 03:48:59.425
JOYCE SCHOLAR AND I AM THE
03:48:59.492 --> 03:49:00.326
ENROLLMENT COORDINATOR AT
03:49:00.393 --> 03:49:01.594
COMMUNITY REFLECTIONS
03:49:01.661 --> 03:49:03.229
INCORPORATED, FOUNDED BY WHEN
03:49:03.296 --> 03:49:06.099
EXCAVATED SERVICING. SOUTH LOS
03:49:06.165 --> 03:49:07.834
ANGELES. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF
03:49:07.900 --> 03:49:09.902
TIMES DONE AND WILL BE RINGING
03:49:09.969 --> 03:49:11.571
TODAY'S TESTIMONIAL IN SUPPORT
03:49:11.637 --> 03:49:15.208
OF A B 1924 ON BEHALF OF OUR
03:49:15.274 --> 03:49:16.275
TIME TO MEMBERS. WE'RE
03:49:16.342 --> 03:49:20.813
ACTIVATING. UM WHEN THAT
03:49:20.880 --> 03:49:22.815
CONVEYING IS THE PRESIDENT AND
03:49:22.882 --> 03:49:23.716
FOUNDER OF COMMUNITY REFLECTIONS
03:49:23.783 --> 03:49:26.219
INCORPORATED, LOCATED IN SOUTH
03:49:26.285 --> 03:49:28.821
LOS ANGELES, REFLECTIONS
03:49:28.888 --> 03:49:30.590
INCORPORATED WORKS TO ADDRESS
03:49:30.656 --> 03:49:32.291
THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF FAMILIES
03:49:32.358 --> 03:49:34.060
AND INDIVIDUALS AND UNDERSERVED
03:49:34.127 --> 03:49:35.061
COMMUNITIES OF WESTMONT WAS
03:49:35.128 --> 03:49:38.164
ACID. OUR ALSO BE SPEAKING ABOUT
03:49:38.231 --> 03:49:40.099
THE DIFFICULTY ABOUT TRAINING
03:49:40.166 --> 03:49:42.101
CERTIFICATE OF REHABILITATION
03:49:42.168 --> 03:49:43.736
AND WHY, I HOPE HARDLY SUPPORT
03:49:43.803 --> 03:49:45.638
THE LEGISLATION THAT WILL MAKE
03:49:45.705 --> 03:49:47.540
IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO
03:49:47.607 --> 03:49:48.574
RECEIVE. CERTIFICATE OF
03:49:48.641 --> 03:49:53.646
REHABILITATION. FIRST OFF. I
03:49:53.713 --> 03:49:56.682
WOULD EXCAVATING A DEFEAT AND 50
03:49:56.749 --> 03:49:58.751
YEARS OLD. I'M A BLACK AFRICAN
03:49:58.818 --> 03:50:00.820
AMERICAN WOMAN WHO HAS BEEN IN
03:50:00.887 --> 03:50:03.756
THE SYSTEM. THE TEENAGER. I GREW
03:50:03.823 --> 03:50:05.224
UP IN AN IMPOVERISHED COMMUNITY
03:50:05.291 --> 03:50:06.926
THAT WAS SUFFERING FROM A BROKEN
03:50:06.993 --> 03:50:07.760
SYSTEM AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD,
03:50:07.827 --> 03:50:10.730
LOCAL PHARMACY SCHOOLS DRUGS.
03:50:10.796 --> 03:50:13.065
THE INDUSTRIALIZATION AND POLICE
03:50:13.132 --> 03:50:15.168
VIOLENCE PUSH MYSELF AND MANY OF
03:50:15.234 --> 03:50:17.603
MY PEERS AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
03:50:17.670 --> 03:50:18.704
WHICH I HAD TO STAND ACCOUNTABLE
03:50:18.771 --> 03:50:22.608
FOR AND MAKE AMENDS. JUST LIKE I
03:50:22.675 --> 03:50:25.511
MADE WRONG CHOICES, THOUGH, ALSO
03:50:25.578 --> 03:50:27.647
CHOSE TO TURN MY LIFE AROUND AND
03:50:27.713 --> 03:50:30.016
RESTORING EDUCATING MY COMMUNITY
03:50:30.082 --> 03:50:31.951
. IT WAS A VERY CHALLENGING TO
03:50:32.018 --> 03:50:34.153
BECOME A PROTECTIVE CITIZENS.
03:50:34.220 --> 03:50:36.355
KILLED HIM. MY CONVICTION AND
03:50:36.422 --> 03:50:37.523
THE MANY RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON
03:50:37.590 --> 03:50:40.393
ME BY THE SYSTEM. AFTER THE
03:50:40.459 --> 03:50:43.563
PASSING OF PROP 47. I WAS
03:50:43.629 --> 03:50:44.597
EQUIPPED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE ON
03:50:44.664 --> 03:50:47.033
HOW TO REDUCE MY OWN CELANESE
03:50:47.099 --> 03:50:47.733
PARTICULAR REHABILITATION AND
03:50:47.800 --> 03:50:52.171
AGAINST ABILITY, ATION. I GOT 47
03:50:52.238 --> 03:50:53.739
GAVE ME HOPE IN WATER BASIN TO
03:50:53.806 --> 03:50:55.708
PURSUE THE PROCESS OF GETTING MY
03:50:55.775 --> 03:50:58.711
FEEL ARE IT TOOK ME TWO YEARS TO
03:50:58.778 --> 03:51:00.846
RECEIVE MACEIO ARE BUT I STAYED
03:51:00.913 --> 03:51:03.382
ON THE COURSE AND LEARN HOW TO
03:51:03.449 --> 03:51:04.850
FIND MY OWN PAPERWORK, DO A LOT
03:51:04.917 --> 03:51:06.919
OF TRIAL AND ERROR. I FOUNDED
03:51:06.986 --> 03:51:08.020
COMMUNITY REFLECTION TO ASSIST
03:51:08.087 --> 03:51:09.789
PEOPLE SEEKING LEGAL HEALTH
03:51:09.855 --> 03:51:11.257
WITHOUT CLAIMING THEIR
03:51:11.324 --> 03:51:12.458
CERTIFICATES OF REHABILITATION
03:51:12.525 --> 03:51:14.860
AND OTHERLEGAL ASSISTANCE AND
03:51:14.927 --> 03:51:15.795
DOING THIS WORK. THE BIGGEST
03:51:15.861 --> 03:51:17.697
CONCERN IS HOW EXPENSIVE AND
03:51:17.763 --> 03:51:18.698
UNATTAINABLE LAWYER SPEECH HAS
03:51:18.764 --> 03:51:21.667
BECOME. HAD I HAD SO MANY
03:51:21.734 --> 03:51:23.669
OBSTACLES TO DEFEAT AND EFFORTS
03:51:23.736 --> 03:51:25.905
TO CLEAR CASES THAT WEREN'T EVEN
03:51:25.972 --> 03:51:28.140
MINE. BUT WE'RE ALL MY RAP SHEET
03:51:28.207 --> 03:51:29.742
. THE PRECIOUS BECAME VERY
03:51:29.809 --> 03:51:30.610
OVERWHELMING AND EXTREMELY
03:51:30.676 --> 03:51:33.412
DEPRESSING. JUST SALARY POINT
03:51:33.479 --> 03:51:35.114
FOR IDENTITY THAT AND WAIT FOR
03:51:35.181 --> 03:51:36.515
IT TO BE INVESTIGATING CLEARED
03:51:36.582 --> 03:51:38.284
THEN I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THESE.
03:51:38.351 --> 03:51:39.752
FOR IT TO BE ACKNOWLEDGING CLEAR
03:51:39.819 --> 03:51:41.954
BY THE BOJ RUNNING BACK AND
03:51:42.021 --> 03:51:43.389
FORTH TO DIFFERENT CITIES IN
03:51:43.456 --> 03:51:45.491
COURT, TRAVELING FROM COURT TO
03:51:45.558 --> 03:51:47.326
COURT CREATES HUGE BURDEN FOR
03:51:47.393 --> 03:51:50.196
LOW INCOME UNEMPLOYED. PEOPLE
03:51:50.263 --> 03:51:51.664
LIVING ON INSTALLING BENEFIT
03:51:51.731 --> 03:51:53.733
INCOME. I KNOW BECAUSE HAVING TO
03:51:53.799 --> 03:51:56.269
PAY FOR THE GAS COSTS ALONG WAS
03:51:56.335 --> 03:51:58.204
DEVASTATING FOR ME WHEN I TOLD
03:51:58.271 --> 03:51:59.305
THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUR BUDGET
03:51:59.372 --> 03:52:02.475
ATION STAFF. MY STORY ABOUT WHAT
03:52:02.541 --> 03:52:04.510
I FELT I DESERVED TO BE REALLY
03:52:04.577 --> 03:52:06.279
REHABILITATED. I CRIED BECAUSE A
03:52:06.345 --> 03:52:08.914
LOT OF THE TRAUMA WE START THIS
03:52:08.981 --> 03:52:10.516
THAT BROUGHT UP ALL THE MOTION.
03:52:10.583 --> 03:52:12.385
IT WAS A LOT OF PRESSURE TO GET
03:52:12.451 --> 03:52:13.686
ALL THE FORMS FILLED OUT
03:52:13.753 --> 03:52:15.421
CORRECTLY. AND WHEN IT CAME TO
03:52:15.488 --> 03:52:17.523
MY DAY TO GO BEFORE THE JUDGE, I
03:52:17.590 --> 03:52:18.991
WAS PANICKING. ANXIOUS TRIGGERED
03:52:19.058 --> 03:52:21.027
BECAUSE OF MY PTSD FROM PRISON
03:52:21.093 --> 03:52:25.164
TO ASK YOU TO OVERALL IF YOU CAN
03:52:25.231 --> 03:52:26.499
YOU EXCEEDED YOUR FRIENDS, YOU
03:52:26.565 --> 03:52:27.633
CAN CONCLUDE REAL QUICKLY FOR
03:52:27.700 --> 03:52:34.840
US. UM. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT
03:52:34.907 --> 03:52:36.475
THE PROCESS APPROACH STRESSFUL
03:52:36.542 --> 03:52:39.945
AND TEDIOUS YET IT'S IT TAKES A
03:52:40.012 --> 03:52:41.447
HUGE WEIGHT OF YOUR SHOULDER
03:52:41.514 --> 03:52:43.049
WHEN YOU HAD YOUR CERTIFICATE OF
03:52:43.115 --> 03:52:44.483
REHABILITATION BECAUSE IT GIVES
03:52:44.550 --> 03:52:45.685
YOU THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD
03:52:45.751 --> 03:52:47.520
IN LIFE AND GIVES YOU THE
03:52:47.586 --> 03:52:48.954
MOTIVATION THAT YOU CAN DO
03:52:49.021 --> 03:52:50.890
ANYTHING AND CHANGE YOUR LIFE IN
03:52:50.956 --> 03:52:52.992
. TURN AROUND. THANK YOU FOR
03:52:53.059 --> 03:52:54.126
YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT ON THIS
03:52:54.193 --> 03:52:55.828
SPECIAL LEGISLATION. ASSEMBLY
03:52:55.895 --> 03:52:57.463
BILL 1924. THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE
03:52:57.530 --> 03:52:59.098
GONNA GO TO MISS KIRBY. YOU HAVE
03:52:59.165 --> 03:53:06.339
TWO MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M
03:53:06.405 --> 03:53:08.107
NOT PROVIDING ANY SETS OF MONEY.
03:53:08.174 --> 03:53:09.375
BUT HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF
03:53:09.442 --> 03:53:13.212
NEEDED TO COME BACK TO ROOM 1 12
03:53:13.279 --> 03:53:15.348
OR THE WITNESSES IN SUPPORT, UH
03:53:15.414 --> 03:53:18.017
, A 1924 STATE YOUR NAME IN YOUR
03:53:18.084 --> 03:53:19.485
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. BEHALF OF
03:53:19.552 --> 03:53:20.619
THE CO SPONSORS AND STRONG
03:53:20.686 --> 03:53:23.689
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
03:53:23.756 --> 03:53:25.691
ELIJAH OR WITH ANTI RECIDIVISM
03:53:25.758 --> 03:53:26.759
COALITION. STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
03:53:26.826 --> 03:53:30.930
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,
03:53:30.996 --> 03:53:32.164
GREGORY FIDDLE WITH INITIATE
03:53:32.231 --> 03:53:33.199
JUSTICE. STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
03:53:33.265 --> 03:53:37.069
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, EMILY
03:53:37.136 --> 03:53:38.571
HARRIS AT THE L. A BAKER CENTER
03:53:38.637 --> 03:53:40.439
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
03:53:40.506 --> 03:53:41.707
MODERATOR. NOW LET'S GO TO OUR
03:53:41.774 --> 03:53:43.576
PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES IN
03:53:43.642 --> 03:53:46.912
SUPPORT OF 1924. THANK YOU. IF
03:53:46.979 --> 03:53:48.914
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE 1924,
03:53:48.981 --> 03:53:51.784
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. WE
03:53:51.851 --> 03:53:53.786
WILL GO TO MIND TO 23. PLEASE GO
03:53:53.853 --> 03:53:57.690
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. LESLIE
03:53:57.757 --> 03:53:59.225
CALDWELL, HOUSTON FOR THE
03:53:59.291 --> 03:54:00.126
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
03:54:00.192 --> 03:54:01.127
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
03:54:01.193 --> 03:54:04.997
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT ONE. NUMBER
03:54:05.064 --> 03:54:06.766
TWO POLICE SEVEN, PLEASE GO
03:54:06.832 --> 03:54:09.935
AHEAD. REBECA GONZALEZ
03:54:10.002 --> 03:54:11.837
NATIONALISTS, OC ATION OF SOCIAL
03:54:11.904 --> 03:54:12.772
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
03:54:12.838 --> 03:54:17.343
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. FLIGHT
03:54:17.410 --> 03:54:21.213
NUMBER 26, PLEASE. I HAD GOOD
03:54:21.280 --> 03:54:23.048
AFTERNOON, GALEANO WITH ROUTINE
03:54:23.115 --> 03:54:24.183
REBOUND AND CO SPONSORING AND
03:54:24.250 --> 03:54:30.689
STRONG SUPPORT. NEXT WITNESS
03:54:30.756 --> 03:54:37.096
NUMBER 2 28, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
03:54:37.163 --> 03:54:41.267
AGAIN, MY NUMBER 2 28. MY
03:54:41.333 --> 03:54:42.468
APOLOGIES. GOOD AFTERNOON,
03:54:42.535 --> 03:54:44.837
EVERYONE. GILBERT JOHNSON WITH
03:54:44.904 --> 03:54:46.639
CALIFORNIA'S AND SAFETY AND
03:54:46.705 --> 03:54:48.007
JUSTICE. TIME DONE IN STRONG
03:54:48.073 --> 03:54:51.043
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
03:54:51.110 --> 03:54:53.679
NO OTHER COMMENTS AND SUPPORT.
03:54:53.746 --> 03:54:58.651
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S NOW GO TO
03:54:58.717 --> 03:55:00.219
OPPOSITION. ARE THERE WITNESSES
03:55:00.286 --> 03:55:04.890
IN OPPOSITION OF AVIATE 1924. NO
03:55:04.957 --> 03:55:06.459
PRIMARY WITNESS LISTED SAYING,
03:55:06.525 --> 03:55:07.526
NO ONE COMING FORWARD MODERATOR,
03:55:07.593 --> 03:55:11.230
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINE.
03:55:11.297 --> 03:55:11.997
THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE AN
03:55:12.064 --> 03:55:13.432
OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
03:55:13.499 --> 03:55:18.938
THIS TIME. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY
03:55:19.004 --> 03:55:20.906
IN OPPOSITION. ALRIGHT I'LL
03:55:20.973 --> 03:55:23.008
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
03:55:23.075 --> 03:55:24.076
ARE THERE QUESTIONS CONCERNS AS
03:55:24.143 --> 03:55:28.080
IT RELATES TO 1924? PERINO. UM,
03:55:28.147 --> 03:55:29.181
MR KRYPTON. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
03:55:29.248 --> 03:55:32.551
CLOSE? IN THE INTEREST OF TIME
03:55:32.618 --> 03:55:33.986
RESPECTFULLY ASKED WHEN I VOTE,
03:55:34.053 --> 03:55:35.754
OKAY, WE HAVE A DO PASS TO
03:55:35.821 --> 03:55:36.722
APPROPRIATIONS. IS THERE A
03:55:36.789 --> 03:55:39.124
MOTION THANK YOU MOVED BY
03:55:39.191 --> 03:55:42.561
SENATOR SCANNER. CONSULTANT
03:55:42.628 --> 03:55:45.598
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON A B 1924
03:55:45.664 --> 03:55:47.166
MAYBE 1924 BRADFORD BRADFORD, I
03:55:47.233 --> 03:55:55.941
A CHILL BOGUE. KAMLAGER
03:55:56.008 --> 03:55:57.109
KAMLAGER. AYE SKINNER SKINNER I
03:55:57.176 --> 03:56:00.479
WIENER. THE MEASURE HAS THREE
03:56:00.546 --> 03:56:01.647
VOTES WILL KEEP THE ROAD OPEN
03:56:01.714 --> 03:56:06.952
FOR OKAY, SO, BUGNO. ALRIGHT
03:56:07.019 --> 03:56:08.020
THANK YOU. OPEN PERHAPS
03:56:08.087 --> 03:56:11.323
REMEMBERS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
03:56:11.390 --> 03:56:13.526
NOW, LET'S GO TO DO WE HAVE MR
03:56:13.592 --> 03:56:21.734
HOLDEN. AND WE HAVE I'M SORRY. I
03:56:21.800 --> 03:56:33.913
CAN'T HEAR YOU.
03:56:33.979 --> 03:56:39.718
JUDICIARIES WAITING ON ME. YEAH.
03:56:39.785 --> 03:56:40.986
ARE YOU AHEAD OF ME? ARE YOU
03:56:41.053 --> 03:56:42.955
SUPPOSED TO DO ARE YOU SUPPOSED
03:56:43.022 --> 03:56:44.757
TO BE ABLE I HEARD THIS MORNING
03:56:44.823 --> 03:56:46.825
I MADE A MISTAKE IN POLLING A B
03:56:46.892 --> 03:56:48.894
2043. THAT WAS AN ERROR, SO THAT
03:56:48.961 --> 03:56:52.464
WILL BE BACK ON AGENDA. A DOG,
03:56:52.531 --> 03:57:00.239
JOAN SAWYER BILL. OKAY? 12 42.
03:57:00.306 --> 03:57:04.009
THAT'S RIGHT, MR CHAIR. THANK
03:57:04.076 --> 03:57:05.110
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS AND
03:57:05.177 --> 03:57:09.281
ESPECIALLY MR HOLDEN. I WILL BE
03:57:09.348 --> 03:57:11.450
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS THAT
03:57:11.517 --> 03:57:12.484
THE COMMITTEE IS PROVIDING,
03:57:12.551 --> 03:57:13.752
INCLUDING ADDING AN URGENCY
03:57:13.819 --> 03:57:14.486
CLAUSE TO ENSURE THESE
03:57:14.553 --> 03:57:15.988
PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE AS SOON
03:57:16.055 --> 03:57:17.990
AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT I'M PROUD
03:57:18.057 --> 03:57:20.359
TO PRESENT A B 12 42 A BILL TO
03:57:20.426 --> 03:57:21.694
PROTECT ABORTION CARE AND THE
03:57:21.760 --> 03:57:22.995
PROVIDERS WHO PROVIDE THAT CARE
03:57:23.062 --> 03:57:25.898
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. LAWS ACROSS
03:57:25.965 --> 03:57:26.865
THE COUNTRY ARE MAKING ABORTION
03:57:26.932 --> 03:57:29.101
A CRIME WITH YEARS IN JAIL AS A
03:57:29.168 --> 03:57:31.136
PENALTY AS OF FRIDAY, ROVI
03:57:31.203 --> 03:57:32.338
WEIGHT IS NO LONGER THE LAW OF
03:57:32.404 --> 03:57:35.007
THE LAND. AND THESE FELONY LAWS
03:57:35.074 --> 03:57:36.141
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WILL NOW BE
03:57:36.208 --> 03:57:39.778
ENFORCEABLE. HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
03:57:39.845 --> 03:57:41.046
WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
03:57:41.113 --> 03:57:42.581
ACCESS TO COMPREHENSIVE
03:57:42.648 --> 03:57:44.016
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE, WHICH
03:57:44.083 --> 03:57:44.984
INCLUDES ACCESS TO SAFE
03:57:45.050 --> 03:57:48.420
ABORTIONS. OUR PROVIDERS WHO ARE
03:57:48.487 --> 03:57:50.856
ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE AND HAVE
03:57:50.923 --> 03:57:52.324
THE CLARITY OF MIND TO CONTINUE
03:57:52.391 --> 03:57:53.892
TO PROVIDE THESE ABORTIONS IN
03:57:53.959 --> 03:57:54.860
OUR OWN STATE DESERVE
03:57:54.927 --> 03:57:55.361
PROTECTIONS FROM BEING
03:57:55.427 --> 03:57:56.295
PROSECUTED IN FOREIGN STATES
03:57:56.362 --> 03:57:58.931
UNDER THEIR CRIMINAL LAWS.
03:57:58.998 --> 03:58:01.066
ALTHOUGH CALIFORNIA WOULD NEVER
03:58:01.133 --> 03:58:02.234
ISSUE AN ARREST WARRANT FOR A
03:58:02.301 --> 03:58:04.069
SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTION, OTHER
03:58:04.136 --> 03:58:05.738
STATES MAY VERY WELL DO SO.
03:58:05.804 --> 03:58:06.639
MAYBE 12 42 WILL PROACTIVELY
03:58:06.705 --> 03:58:07.640
PROTECT FROM CRIMINAL PENALTIES
03:58:07.706 --> 03:58:10.509
AND ARREST. FOR ACTIONS TO
03:58:10.576 --> 03:58:12.111
RECEIVE PROVIDER AIDAN ABORTION
03:58:12.177 --> 03:58:14.146
CARE. WE MUST FORESTALL ALL
03:58:14.213 --> 03:58:15.581
LEGAL AMBIGUITY SO THAT OUR
03:58:15.648 --> 03:58:17.082
PROVIDERS CAN GIVE CARE WITHOUT
03:58:17.149 --> 03:58:18.717
DELAY AND ARE AMAZING RESIDENTS
03:58:18.784 --> 03:58:19.785
CAN SUPPORT ABORTION CARE
03:58:19.852 --> 03:58:20.886
WITHOUT FEARING OUT OF STATE
03:58:20.953 --> 03:58:23.355
REPRISALS. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING
03:58:23.422 --> 03:58:25.057
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STATE OF
03:58:25.124 --> 03:58:26.325
CALIFORNIA NEVER ABANDONED
03:58:26.392 --> 03:58:27.559
CITIZENS. ABORTION IS
03:58:27.626 --> 03:58:28.427
HEALTHCARE, ABORTION IS
03:58:28.494 --> 03:58:32.965
EQUALITY. ABORTION IS FREEDOM
03:58:33.032 --> 03:58:33.732
AND IN CALIFORNIA. WE WILL
03:58:33.799 --> 03:58:35.467
CONTINUE TO STAND UP FOR THAT
03:58:35.534 --> 03:58:36.869
WITH ME TODAY IN SUPPORT IS
03:58:36.935 --> 03:58:37.970
TIFFANY MATTHEWS, LEGISLATIVE
03:58:38.037 --> 03:58:38.570
ADVOCATE WITH THE OFFICE OF
03:58:38.637 --> 03:58:40.572
ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB BONTA, AND
03:58:40.639 --> 03:58:42.207
VIA PHONE IS DR JENNIFER KERNS
03:58:42.274 --> 03:58:45.210
AND O B. G Y N WITH UCSF MEDICAL
03:58:45.277 --> 03:58:48.447
CENTER. OKAY DO WE HAVE TIFFANY
03:58:48.514 --> 03:58:49.548
MATTHEWS? OKAY, YOU HAVE TWO
03:58:49.615 --> 03:58:53.052
MINUTES. YOU MAY BEGIN. GOOD
03:58:53.118 --> 03:58:54.853
MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE
03:58:54.920 --> 03:58:56.288
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING
03:58:56.355 --> 03:58:57.456
THE TIME TO HEAR THIS BILL
03:58:57.523 --> 03:58:59.825
TODAY. MY NAME IS TIFFANY
03:58:59.892 --> 03:59:01.260
MATTHEWS HERE ON BEHALF OF
03:59:01.326 --> 03:59:03.762
ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB BONTA, WHO
03:59:03.829 --> 03:59:06.298
IS A PROUD SPONSOR OF A B 12 42
03:59:06.365 --> 03:59:07.833
BY SIMPLY MEMBER OF BAUER-KAHAN.
03:59:07.900 --> 03:59:10.569
A B 12 42 PROHIBITS THE ARREST
03:59:10.636 --> 03:59:12.838
OF ANYONE AIDING OR PERFORMING A
03:59:12.905 --> 03:59:15.541
LAWFUL ABORTION IN CALIFORNIA.
03:59:15.607 --> 03:59:17.276
THE BILL ALSO PROHIBITS LAW
03:59:17.342 --> 03:59:19.411
ENFORCEMENT FROM SHARING
03:59:19.478 --> 03:59:20.946
INFORMATION RELATING TO AN
03:59:21.013 --> 03:59:22.448
ABORTION IN CALIFORNIA WITH OUT
03:59:22.514 --> 03:59:25.451
OF STATE ENTITIES. THE U. S
03:59:25.517 --> 03:59:29.121
SUPREME COURT'S DECISION TO
03:59:29.188 --> 03:59:30.389
TO AN ABORTION RIGHT THAT HAS
03:59:30.456 --> 03:59:32.324
BEEN IN PLACE FOR NEARLY HALF A
03:59:32.391 --> 03:59:36.228
CENTURY. PLACES APPROXIMATELY 34
03:59:36.295 --> 03:59:38.063
MILLION REPRODUCTIVE AGED WOMAN
03:59:38.130 --> 03:59:40.866
NATIONWIDE AT RISK OF LOSING
03:59:40.933 --> 03:59:43.535
ACCESS TO ABORTION SERVICES. AT
03:59:43.602 --> 03:59:45.738
A TIME WHEN ANTI ABORTION
03:59:45.804 --> 03:59:47.206
EXTREMISTS AND OTHER STATES SEEK
03:59:47.272 --> 03:59:50.209
TO CRIMINALIZE PREGNANT PEOPLE.
03:59:50.275 --> 03:59:52.544
A B 12 42 ENSURES THAT
03:59:52.611 --> 03:59:53.712
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL
03:59:53.779 --> 03:59:54.613
PROTECT THEIR ACCESS TO
03:59:54.680 --> 03:59:58.484
HEALTHCARE. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
03:59:58.550 --> 04:00:01.019
WILL USE THE FULL FORCE OF THE
04:00:01.086 --> 04:00:02.721
LAW AND THE FOUR AUTHORITY OF
04:00:02.788 --> 04:00:03.989
HIS OFFICE TO DEFEND
04:00:04.056 --> 04:00:06.091
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS BY WORKING
04:00:06.158 --> 04:00:07.359
WITH AND ADVISING LOCAL LAW
04:00:07.426 --> 04:00:10.763
ENFORCEMENT. ON HOW TO KEEP OUR
04:00:10.829 --> 04:00:12.931
CLINICS ACCESSIBLE AND SAFE FOR
04:00:12.998 --> 04:00:14.933
INDIVIDUALS AND PROVIDERS.
04:00:15.000 --> 04:00:19.138
SEEKING AN ABORTION. THE
04:00:19.204 --> 04:00:20.572
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL NOT
04:00:20.639 --> 04:00:22.841
COOPERATE WITH OUT OF STATE LAW
04:00:22.908 --> 04:00:24.009
ENFORCEMENT WHO SEEK TO PUNISH
04:00:24.076 --> 04:00:24.977
THOSE PROVIDING ABORTIONS IN
04:00:25.043 --> 04:00:26.979
CALIFORNIA. AND WE WANT PEOPLE
04:00:27.045 --> 04:00:29.281
ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO KNOW THAT
04:00:29.348 --> 04:00:31.483
YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO ABORTION AND
04:00:31.550 --> 04:00:33.819
CALIFORNIA. IN CALIFORNIA. THE
04:00:33.886 --> 04:00:34.520
LAW IS HERE TO PROTECT
04:00:34.586 --> 04:00:35.587
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND NOT TAKE
04:00:35.654 --> 04:00:38.857
THEM AWAY. AND A B 12 42 DOES
04:00:38.924 --> 04:00:43.996
JUST THAT. AND UM, I HAVE HERE
04:00:44.062 --> 04:00:45.264
WITH ME TODAY. MAGGIE KRELL,
04:00:45.330 --> 04:00:46.932
SPECIAL ADVISOR TO THE G TO
04:00:46.999 --> 04:00:48.200
ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL TECHNICAL
04:00:48.267 --> 04:00:50.836
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND
04:00:50.903 --> 04:00:51.770
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHORS
04:00:51.837 --> 04:00:53.205
AND REMEMBER OF BAUER-KAHAN AND
04:00:53.272 --> 04:00:54.573
THE CO AUTHORS FOR CARRYING THIS
04:00:54.640 --> 04:00:55.874
IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION
04:00:55.941 --> 04:00:57.543
AND I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK
04:00:57.609 --> 04:00:59.978
YOU. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE
04:01:00.045 --> 04:01:05.150
DR JENNIFER KERNS AVAILABLE? SHE
04:01:05.217 --> 04:01:06.752
IS WITHIN AND OUT WITH PATIENTS
04:01:06.819 --> 04:01:07.619
. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S ON THE
04:01:07.686 --> 04:01:09.988
PHONE, BUT WE'LL SEE. OKAY I
04:01:10.055 --> 04:01:11.824
DON'T WANT TO GET AROUND IN A IN
04:01:11.890 --> 04:01:13.792
A WAY OF THAT. AH ALL RIGHT,
04:01:13.859 --> 04:01:17.029
THEN LET'S MOVE BACK TO ROOM 1
04:01:17.095 --> 04:01:18.263
12, THEN ARE THERE WITNESSES AND
04:01:18.330 --> 04:01:21.466
SUPPORT OF A B 12 42. YOUR NAME
04:01:21.533 --> 04:01:24.870
AND YOUR ORGANIZATION, PLEASE.
04:01:24.937 --> 04:01:26.572
HELLO CHAIR MEMBERS SYMPHONY
04:01:26.638 --> 04:01:27.706
BARBIE WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD,
04:01:27.773 --> 04:01:28.707
AFFILIATES OF CALIFORNIA AND
04:01:28.774 --> 04:01:31.176
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
04:01:31.243 --> 04:01:32.678
SEEING NO ONE ELSE COMING
04:01:32.744 --> 04:01:33.679
FORWARD, MODERATOR, LET'S GO TO
04:01:33.745 --> 04:01:36.081
OUR PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
04:01:36.148 --> 04:01:37.216
THERE'S WITNESSES WISHING TO
04:01:37.282 --> 04:01:39.918
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF 12 42.
04:01:39.985 --> 04:01:41.720
THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
04:01:41.787 --> 04:01:44.289
OF A V 12 42 PLEASE PRESS ONE
04:01:44.356 --> 04:01:45.824
INJURED AT THIS TIME. WE WILL GO
04:01:45.891 --> 04:01:47.626
TO THE LINE OF 202. PLEASE GO
04:01:47.693 --> 04:01:50.596
AHEAD, TAKING CARE, RIGHT?
04:01:50.662 --> 04:01:52.164
SPENCER ON BEHALF OF THE
04:01:52.231 --> 04:01:54.266
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF O V G. Y N
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NINE AND SUPPORT. AND WE WILL GO
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TO THE LINE NUMBER OF TO 31.
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR CARON
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MEMBERS. THIS IS AARON EVANS ON
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BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA NURSES
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MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS
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NARAL PRO CHOICE CALIFORNIA BOTH
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IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND WE
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WILL GO TO THE LINE OF 2 32,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS
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LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON AND
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REPRESENTATIVE OF CALIFORNIA
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PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
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SUPPORT. AND WE WILL GO TO THE
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LINE OF 2 27, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE BECCA
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GONZALEZ WITH THE NATIONAL
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ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
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CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND SUPPORT.
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AND THERE ARE NO OTHERS IN
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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL GO
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TO OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE
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HERE IN ROOM 1 12, WHICH SHOULD
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SHE N<c.cyan> MODERATORS, SO LET'S GO</c>
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TO THE PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
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THERE'S ANYONE DESIRES OF
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TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION OF 12
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42. THANK YOU. IF YOU ARE IN
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OPPOSITION, PLEASE. LONDON ZERO
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AT THIS TIME. AND WE DON'T HAVE
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ANYONE IN OPPOSITION. WE'LL
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BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
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ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
04:03:12.010 --> 04:03:13.078
BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS? SCENARIO,
04:03:13.145 --> 04:03:16.615
KOBACH. HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH,
04:03:16.682 --> 04:03:20.419
WITH REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT
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THIS IS ACTUALLY NEEDED. UM AND
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THE REASON I ASK AND I'M AND I'M
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TRYING TO, UM, TO REACH UM OUR
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COLLEAGUE WHO IS AN ATTORNEY,
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BUT. IF A MEDICAL PRACTITIONER
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IS WORKING WITHIN THEIR SCOPE OF
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PRACTICE, WHICH IS LEGAL. I
04:03:37.602 --> 04:03:42.574
MEAN, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A LEGAL
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DESCRIPTION OF WHAT YOUR MEDICAL
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PRACTICE OR SCOPE OF PRACTICE IS
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AND IT'S LEGAL HERE IN THIS
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STATE. HOW IS IT THAT OTHER
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STATES WOULD HAVE THE CAPACITY
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TO ARREST OR PROSECUTE SOMEONE
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IN OUR STATE FOR SOMETHING THAT
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IS LEGAL HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT
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MAY NOT BE IN THEIR STATE, BUT
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AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK
04:04:03.128 --> 04:04:03.929
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS
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EACH STATE TO T. ENACT THEIR
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OWN LAWS AND PRACTICE WITHIN
04:04:10.335 --> 04:04:11.636
THOSE LAWS AND PROTECTED WITHIN
04:04:11.703 --> 04:04:14.806
THOSE LAWS. FOR SOMEONE THAT
04:04:14.873 --> 04:04:17.709
THAT PRACTICES HERE. I MEAN, I
04:04:17.776 --> 04:04:18.810
ISN'T THERE SOMETHING THAT
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PROTECTS PEOPLE THAT WORK WITHIN
04:04:21.046 --> 04:04:22.848
THEIR SCOPE AND THEIR SPACE AND
04:04:22.914 --> 04:04:24.716
IN ITS THEIR SCOPE OF PRACTICE?
04:04:24.783 --> 04:04:26.585
SO I THINK THIS SITUATION
04:04:26.651 --> 04:04:27.853
ALTHOUGH IF MISS CROWLEY WANTS
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TO COME UP AND HELP ADDRESS THE
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QUESTION, ALTHOUGH I HEARD YOU
04:04:30.922 --> 04:04:32.324
SO SHE'S THE EXPERT ON THIS, BUT
04:04:32.391 --> 04:04:33.992
BUT I'LL START WITH YOU. I THINK
04:04:34.059 --> 04:04:35.861
THE SITUATION WHICH I SEE THIS
04:04:35.927 --> 04:04:37.295
BEING MOST PLAUSIBLY NECESSARY.
04:04:37.362 --> 04:04:38.497
IF YOU WILL, IS WHERE THE
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PATIENT IS SOMEBODY FROM A STATE
04:04:40.665 --> 04:04:43.101
WHERE THIS IS A FELONY, AND THAT
04:04:43.168 --> 04:04:43.869
STATE TRIES TO THEN PROSECUTE
04:04:43.935 --> 04:04:44.903
OUR DOCTOR FOR PROVIDING AGAIN
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WITHIN THE STATE'S BORDERS. SO
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THAT PATIENT WERE TO COME TO YOU
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HERE IN CALIFORNIA RECEIVE
04:04:48.807 --> 04:04:51.209
ABORTION CARE HERE, WHERE IT'S
04:04:51.276 --> 04:04:51.810
SAFE AND LEGAL, BUT THE OTHER
04:04:51.877 --> 04:04:52.844
STATE WOULD TRY TO PROSECUTE OUR
04:04:52.911 --> 04:04:54.846
PROVIDERS FOR PRACTICING HERE,
04:04:54.913 --> 04:04:55.947
AND THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE
04:04:56.014 --> 04:04:56.815
WE HAVE CRIMES THAT HAPPEN
04:04:56.882 --> 04:04:58.116
ACROSS STATE BORDERS. WIRE FRAUD
04:04:58.183 --> 04:04:59.618
BEING ONE OF THE MOST COMMON
04:04:59.684 --> 04:05:01.653
WHERE WE DO EXTRADITE OUT OF
04:05:01.720 --> 04:05:04.923
STATE AND SO, BUT I CAN TURN TO,
04:05:04.990 --> 04:05:06.124
UM MISS CROWLEY, WHO'S MORE THE
04:05:06.191 --> 04:05:09.661
EXPERT ON THE ISSUE. UM NO. I
04:05:09.728 --> 04:05:10.796
MEAN, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE
04:05:10.862 --> 04:05:12.798
RIGHT EXAMPLES. UM SENATOR, IT'S
04:05:12.864 --> 04:05:14.699
A GOOD POINT. BUT SOMETIMES,
04:05:14.766 --> 04:05:15.734
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WE'RE WHAT
04:05:15.801 --> 04:05:16.968
WE'RE SEEING IN THESE OTHER
04:05:17.035 --> 04:05:18.603
STATES ARE STATES TRYING TO PASS
04:05:18.670 --> 04:05:19.604
ANTIABORTION LAWS THAT ARE
04:05:19.671 --> 04:05:23.408
PRETTY EXTREME. WELL UM CITIZENS
04:05:23.475 --> 04:05:25.177
HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO
04:05:25.243 --> 04:05:27.012
TRAVEL FREELY AMONG STATES AND
04:05:27.079 --> 04:05:27.979
JUSTICE. KAVANAUGH EVEN
04:05:28.046 --> 04:05:29.247
RECOGNIZE THAT IN HIS CONCURRING
04:05:29.314 --> 04:05:31.416
OPINION IN THE DOBBS CASE. UM
04:05:31.483 --> 04:05:32.584
YOU KNOW, WE ARE STILL SEEING
04:05:32.651 --> 04:05:34.419
SOME LAWS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
04:05:34.486 --> 04:05:37.489
RESTRICT, UM RESIDENTS OF STATES
04:05:37.556 --> 04:05:39.925
FROM COMING TO OUR STATE. AND
04:05:39.991 --> 04:05:41.426
ALTHOUGH WE WOULD NEVER CONCEDE
04:05:41.493 --> 04:05:42.661
THE LEGALITY OF THOSE KINDS OF
04:05:42.727 --> 04:05:44.596
LAWS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
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OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
04:05:46.398 --> 04:05:47.466
HERE IN CALIFORNIA KNOW THAT
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THEY ARE NOT TO DO ANYTHING AT
04:05:49.568 --> 04:05:53.138
ALL, TO HELP ENFORCE ANY OUT OF
04:05:53.205 --> 04:05:55.474
STATE ANTI ABORTION LAW, AND
04:05:55.540 --> 04:05:57.542
THERE ALSO COULD BE SCENARIOS.
04:05:57.609 --> 04:05:58.543
UM, LIKE LIKE WHAT THE
04:05:58.610 --> 04:05:59.878
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TALKING ABOUT
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WHERE PROVIDER HERE IN
04:06:00.846 --> 04:06:02.380
CALIFORNIA CONSULTS WITH A
04:06:02.447 --> 04:06:03.982
PATIENT IN ANOTHER STATE. SO
04:06:04.049 --> 04:06:05.984
ALTHOUGH THAT PROVIDER DID NOT
04:06:06.051 --> 04:06:07.919
LEAVE OUR STATE AT ALL, THEY
04:06:07.986 --> 04:06:09.554
COULD BE SUBJECT TO SOMETHING IN
04:06:09.621 --> 04:06:10.689
ANOTHER STATE AND AGAIN. WE JUST
04:06:10.755 --> 04:06:12.224
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
04:06:12.290 --> 04:06:13.758
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOWS
04:06:13.825 --> 04:06:15.894
THAT OUR GOAL IS TO PROTECT
04:06:15.961 --> 04:06:17.229
CALIFORNIANS FROM ANTI ABORTION
04:06:17.295 --> 04:06:20.999
LAWS IN OTHER STATES. SO GOOD
04:06:21.066 --> 04:06:22.033
POINT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT
04:06:22.100 --> 04:06:23.468
THERE'S CERTAIN CRIMES WHERE
04:06:23.535 --> 04:06:25.604
WERE YOU CAN BE EXTRADITED AND
04:06:25.670 --> 04:06:26.805
BROUGHT TO THAT PARTICULAR
04:06:26.872 --> 04:06:33.044
STATE. BUT THAT WOULD WOULD THAT
04:06:33.111 --> 04:06:35.680
ONLY FALL WITHIN. ITEMS THAT
04:06:35.747 --> 04:06:37.549
WOULD BE ILLEGAL IN THIS STATE
04:06:37.616 --> 04:06:41.119
AS WELL. THAT'S AN INTERESTING
04:06:41.186 --> 04:06:41.853
QUESTION YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE
04:06:41.920 --> 04:06:44.089
WE DON'T HAVE THAT CRIME ON THE
04:06:44.156 --> 04:06:45.991
BOOKS HERE. YES SO IN THE CASE
04:06:46.057 --> 04:06:47.626
OF A CRIME THAT OCCURS WHERE
04:06:47.692 --> 04:06:48.760
ANOTHER STATE IS TRYING TO
04:06:48.827 --> 04:06:50.862
PROSECUTE AND AGAIN, I'LL LET MS
04:06:50.929 --> 04:06:52.164
CROWL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
04:06:52.230 --> 04:06:53.732
SHE'S DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE MORE
04:06:53.798 --> 04:06:56.101
THAN I HAVE. UM YOU KNOW WHAT
04:06:56.168 --> 04:06:57.202
HAPPENS IS THAT THE STATE
04:06:57.269 --> 04:06:58.837
DECIDES TO CHARGE CALIFORNIA IN
04:06:58.904 --> 04:07:00.605
ANY OF THESE CASES, AND THEY PUT
04:07:00.672 --> 04:07:02.274
THEM INTO A SYSTEM TO BE
04:07:02.340 --> 04:07:03.408
EXTRADITED OUT OF STATE. AT THAT
04:07:03.475 --> 04:07:05.310
POINT, A WARRANT GOES OUT, AND
04:07:05.377 --> 04:07:06.378
THEY'RE PICKED UP BY LAW
04:07:06.444 --> 04:07:07.812
ENFORCEMENT. NOW WE MAY NEVER
04:07:07.879 --> 04:07:09.714
EXTRADITE THESE INDIVIDUALS. IT
04:07:09.781 --> 04:07:10.649
IS WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE
04:07:10.715 --> 04:07:11.616
GOVERNOR, AND HE PUT OUT AN
04:07:11.683 --> 04:07:12.651
EXECUTIVE ORDER. TODAY I THINK
04:07:12.717 --> 04:07:14.452
OR YESTERDAY, SAYING HE WILL NOT
04:07:14.519 --> 04:07:15.787
EXTRADITE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT
04:07:15.854 --> 04:07:16.922
BEING SAID THERE IS A PROCESS
04:07:16.988 --> 04:07:18.390
BEFORE THAT DECISION IS MADE.
04:07:18.456 --> 04:07:19.491
THAT WOULD INVOLVE LAW
04:07:19.558 --> 04:07:20.625
ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
04:07:20.692 --> 04:07:22.194
STOP. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS
04:07:22.260 --> 04:07:23.929
BILL WOULD DO. BUT I DON'T KNOW
04:07:23.995 --> 04:07:25.363
IF THIS CROWD HAS ANYTHING TO
04:07:25.430 --> 04:07:26.631
ADD. NOW THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT.
04:07:26.698 --> 04:07:28.900
JUST SEEMS REALLY ODD TO ME THAT
04:07:28.967 --> 04:07:29.668
ANY STATE WOULD HAVE ANY
04:07:29.734 --> 04:07:31.703
JURISDICTION OVER CALIFORNIANS
04:07:31.770 --> 04:07:32.737
PRACTICING WITHIN THEIR SCOPE OF
04:07:32.804 --> 04:07:36.308
PRACTICE, AND THAT AND I JUST IN
04:07:36.374 --> 04:07:37.709
THE MEDICAL FIELD, I THINK IN
04:07:37.776 --> 04:07:41.913
ANY SPACE I JUST AND I'M NOT A
04:07:41.980 --> 04:07:43.348
DEFINITELY NOT A LEGAL PERSON,
04:07:43.415 --> 04:07:45.016
WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING FOR
04:07:45.083 --> 04:07:45.650
CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, BUT I
04:07:45.717 --> 04:07:47.919
JUST CAN'T SEE THIS OTHER STATES
04:07:47.986 --> 04:07:49.688
HAVING THE AUTHORITY. TO BE ABLE
04:07:49.754 --> 04:07:55.493
TO DO THAT, UM ON ANY SPACE ON
04:07:55.560 --> 04:07:56.561
CALIFORNIA'S WORKING AND ACTING
04:07:56.628 --> 04:08:02.033
WITHIN. THEIR SPACE OF PRACTICE
04:08:02.100 --> 04:08:04.369
. UM HERE IN CALIFORNIA. THAT'S
04:08:04.436 --> 04:08:05.904
WHY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE
04:08:05.971 --> 04:08:08.740
THAT WE HAD THAT GLORIFICATION
04:08:08.807 --> 04:08:10.008
OF MY AND I DON'T KNOW IF
04:08:10.075 --> 04:08:12.077
THERE'S LEGAL TERMS. I DON'T I
04:08:12.143 --> 04:08:12.711
DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHICH IS WHY
04:08:12.777 --> 04:08:13.945
I'M ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS, BUT
04:08:14.012 --> 04:08:17.515
I JUST CAN'T SEE ANYONE ABLE TO
04:08:17.582 --> 04:08:20.051
DO THAT? AND SO I WHEN I READ
04:08:20.118 --> 04:08:21.253
THIS BILL, I THOUGHT MAYBE WHY
04:08:21.319 --> 04:08:23.388
IS THIS NEEDED? I CAN'T. YOU
04:08:23.455 --> 04:08:25.423
KNOW, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW ANY
04:08:25.490 --> 04:08:26.458
STATE COULD COME IN AND SAY
04:08:26.524 --> 04:08:28.193
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR
04:08:28.260 --> 04:08:31.596
PROFESSIONAL. PRSON AND WE SAW
04:08:31.663 --> 04:08:33.598
THIS IN ANOTHER BILL IN ANOTHER
04:08:33.665 --> 04:08:35.400
COMMITTEE, AND I THOUGHT WAIT IF
04:08:35.467 --> 04:08:36.635
THEY'RE PRACTICING WITHIN THEIR
04:08:36.701 --> 04:08:38.470
SCOPE, WHAT HOW IS THAT THEY
04:08:38.536 --> 04:08:39.671
COULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY. TO
04:08:39.738 --> 04:08:44.075
PROSECUTE ANYBODY. THAT'S A
04:08:44.142 --> 04:08:45.977
CALIFORNIAN WORKING, YOU KNOW,
04:08:46.044 --> 04:08:47.879
UNDER STATE LAW, SO I JUST
04:08:47.946 --> 04:08:50.815
WANTED TO. I UNDERSTOOD THAT,
04:08:50.882 --> 04:08:51.816
AND I THINK THE PREMISE OF YOUR
04:08:51.883 --> 04:08:53.785
QUESTION IS WHEN I REALLY
04:08:53.852 --> 04:08:54.686
APPRECIATE BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING
04:08:54.753 --> 04:08:55.387
THIS AS SOMEONE RECEIVING
04:08:55.453 --> 04:08:57.188
HEALTHCARE HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
04:08:57.255 --> 04:08:58.290
THE PROBLEM IS THESE FOREIGN
04:08:58.356 --> 04:08:59.457
STATES AS OF FRIDAY, NO LONGER
04:08:59.524 --> 04:09:00.525
VIEW THIS AS HEALTHCARE. THEY
04:09:00.592 --> 04:09:02.394
VIEW IT AS A CRIME, AND I THINK
04:09:02.460 --> 04:09:03.662
THAT'S THE DISTINCTION OF STATES
04:09:03.728 --> 04:09:04.696
WOULD SEE. ALTHOUGH WE DON'T
04:09:04.763 --> 04:09:05.764
AGREE HERE IN CALIFORNIA, WE
04:09:05.830 --> 04:09:07.532
WILL NOT CRIMINALIZE IT. YOU
04:09:07.599 --> 04:09:08.600
KNOW, WE DON'T THINK IT'S THE
04:09:08.667 --> 04:09:11.036
VALID THE VALIDITY OF THOSE LAWS
04:09:11.102 --> 04:09:12.170
OR THE JURISDICTION OVER OUR OWN
04:09:12.237 --> 04:09:13.271
CALIFORNIANS. WE WANT TO MAKE
04:09:13.338 --> 04:09:14.406
SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING
04:09:14.472 --> 04:09:15.974
PEOPLE FROM ARREST HERE IN
04:09:16.041 --> 04:09:16.541
CALIFORNIA. DISCUSSION AND
04:09:16.608 --> 04:09:19.144
DEBATE ON THIS ITEM, 19. OH,
04:09:19.210 --> 04:09:20.245
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
04:09:20.312 --> 04:09:21.313
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR EITHER,
04:09:21.379 --> 04:09:24.382
OKAY. WE HAVE A DO PASS TO
04:09:24.449 --> 04:09:26.051
APPROPRIATIONS IS THEIR EMOTION
04:09:26.117 --> 04:09:28.219
ON THIS MEASURE. MOVED BY
04:09:28.286 --> 04:09:29.254
SENATOR SCANNERS CONSULTANT
04:09:29.321 --> 04:09:33.491
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON A B 12
04:09:33.558 --> 04:09:36.494
40 TO 12 42. BRADFORD BRADFORD.
04:09:36.561 --> 04:09:39.431
I KNOW BOGUE. CHUG, CHUG BUG,
04:09:39.497 --> 04:09:41.366
NOT VOTING. KAMLAGER SKINNER.
04:09:41.433 --> 04:09:46.971
SKINNER. I WIENER. GO TO A
04:09:47.038 --> 04:09:47.706
LEADER ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
04:09:47.772 --> 04:09:50.842
MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE MR
04:09:50.909 --> 04:09:52.844
HOLDEN AND HOW WE HAVE YOUR
04:09:52.911 --> 04:10:03.121
FIRST ITEM UP IS A B. 17 20.
04:10:03.188 --> 04:10:05.256
THANK YOU BEGIN. THANK YOU, MR
04:10:05.323 --> 04:10:07.025
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TODAY I'M
04:10:07.092 --> 04:10:09.728
PRESENTING ASSEMBLY BILL 17 20.
04:10:09.794 --> 04:10:11.830
A BILL THAT REQUIRES DSS TO
04:10:11.896 --> 04:10:14.265
ESTABLISH A PROCESS TO GRANT A
04:10:14.332 --> 04:10:15.734
SIMPLIFIED CRIMINAL RECORD
04:10:15.800 --> 04:10:17.268
EXEMPTION TO AN APPLICANT
04:10:17.335 --> 04:10:18.603
SEEKING A LICENSE OR POSITION
04:10:18.670 --> 04:10:19.971
WITH VARIOUS COMMUNITY CARE
04:10:20.038 --> 04:10:22.974
FACILITIES. THE BILL ALSO
04:10:23.041 --> 04:10:25.143
REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR SUCH
04:10:25.210 --> 04:10:25.944
AN INDIVIDUAL TO SIGN A
04:10:26.010 --> 04:10:27.345
DECLARATION UNDER PENALTY OF
04:10:27.412 --> 04:10:28.380
PERJURY REGARDING PRIOR CRIMINAL
04:10:28.446 --> 04:10:31.983
CONVICTIONS. CURRENTLY DSS
04:10:32.050 --> 04:10:33.818
REGISTERS HOME CARE AIDES AND
04:10:33.885 --> 04:10:35.487
ISSUES LICENSES AND PERMITS FOR
04:10:35.553 --> 04:10:37.655
PEOPLE TO OPERATE OR PROVIDE
04:10:37.722 --> 04:10:39.357
DIRECT CARE SERVICES AND ELDERLY
04:10:39.424 --> 04:10:41.826
OR CHILDCARE FACILITIES. THE
04:10:41.893 --> 04:10:42.927
DEPARTMENT REQUIRES ANY
04:10:42.994 --> 04:10:44.529
APPLICANT WHO HAS EVER BEEN
04:10:44.596 --> 04:10:45.997
CONVICTED OF ANY CRIME OTHER
04:10:46.064 --> 04:10:47.799
THAN A MINOR TRAFFIC VIOLATION
04:10:47.866 --> 04:10:49.167
TO OBTAIN A CRIMINAL RECORD
04:10:49.234 --> 04:10:50.535
EXEMPTION BEFORE THEY CAN WORK
04:10:50.602 --> 04:10:54.339
IN A CARE FACILITY. ACQUIRING AN
04:10:54.406 --> 04:10:56.141
EXEMPTION IS A LONG, ARDUOUS
04:10:56.207 --> 04:10:58.176
PROCESS THAT TYPICALLY RESULTS
04:10:58.243 --> 04:10:59.778
AND QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS LOSING
04:10:59.844 --> 04:11:01.579
THEIR JOB OFFER OR GIVING UP
04:11:01.646 --> 04:11:02.647
BEFORE THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE
04:11:02.714 --> 04:11:05.316
PROCESS. THIS BILL WOULD
04:11:05.383 --> 04:11:07.285
STREAMLINE THE LICENSURE PROCESS
04:11:07.352 --> 04:11:08.953
FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN
04:11:09.020 --> 04:11:10.422
CONVICTED OF A CRIME TO ENSURE
04:11:10.488 --> 04:11:11.956
THAT ANY UNRELATED PRIOR
04:11:12.023 --> 04:11:13.458
CONVICTION DOES NOT PROHIBIT A
04:11:13.525 --> 04:11:15.260
QUALIFIED, REHABILITATED PERSON.
04:11:15.326 --> 04:11:19.998
FROM SECURING EMPLOYMENT. DSS IS
04:11:20.064 --> 04:11:21.666
STILL MANDATED TO RUN CRIMINAL
04:11:21.733 --> 04:11:23.334
BACKGROUND CHECK ON EACH
04:11:23.401 --> 04:11:24.736
APPLICANT THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA
04:11:24.803 --> 04:11:26.938
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. AND THIS
04:11:27.005 --> 04:11:29.040
BILL DOES NOT MAKE MAJOR CHANGES
04:11:29.107 --> 04:11:30.308
TO THE PROCEDURE FOR LICENSING,
04:11:30.375 --> 04:11:31.476
FOSTER FAMILY HOMES OR RESOURCE
04:11:31.543 --> 04:11:33.211
FAMILY HOMES. OF A LICENSED
04:11:33.278 --> 04:11:37.048
FOSTER FAMILY AGENCY. WITH ME TO
04:11:37.115 --> 04:11:39.984
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT IS YALE
04:11:40.051 --> 04:11:42.153
MYRICK, EAST BAY COMMUNITY.
04:11:42.220 --> 04:11:43.288
LAWCENTER I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
04:11:43.354 --> 04:11:46.791
YOUR VOTE. A INSTEAD OF ONLY
04:11:46.858 --> 04:11:47.792
PRIMARY WITNESS. YOU HAVEN'T
04:11:47.859 --> 04:11:52.864
SUPPORT YOU MAY BEGIN. YES.
04:11:52.931 --> 04:11:54.399
THANK YOU. THIS IS JAIL. MYRICK
04:11:54.466 --> 04:11:55.767
FROM THE TAKING ME A LOT SOONER.
04:11:55.834 --> 04:11:58.536
UM SO 80 17 20 IS AN IMPORTANT
04:11:58.603 --> 04:12:00.038
BILL TO CREATE BETTER EFFICIENCY
04:12:00.104 --> 04:12:01.739
IN THE EXEMPTION PROCESS FOR THE
04:12:01.806 --> 04:12:02.774
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL
04:12:02.841 --> 04:12:04.275
SERVICES, ACCORDING TO NUMBERS
04:12:04.342 --> 04:12:06.511
PROVIDED BY PBS S DURING A SIX
04:12:06.578 --> 04:12:08.613
MONTH PERIOD BETWEEN 2018 AND
04:12:08.680 --> 04:12:11.449
2019 OF 11,000 PEOPLE WHO APPLY
04:12:11.516 --> 04:12:13.117
FOR CRIMINAL RECORD EXEMPTIONS.
04:12:13.184 --> 04:12:13.685
THE MAJORITY OVER 6000 LOST
04:12:13.751 --> 04:12:18.890
THEIR JOBS. NOT BECAUSE THEY
04:12:18.957 --> 04:12:19.691
WERE DEEMED A THREAT, BUT
04:12:19.757 --> 04:12:20.892
BECAUSE THE EXEMPTION PROCESS
04:12:20.959 --> 04:12:23.328
WAS TOO LONG AND COMPLICATED IN
04:12:23.394 --> 04:12:25.396
THE SAME PERIOD LESS THAN 800
04:12:25.463 --> 04:12:25.964
PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY DENIED
04:12:26.030 --> 04:12:27.866
BASED ON THEIR CRIMINAL RECORD.
04:12:27.932 --> 04:12:28.933
FULL EXEMPTION PROCESS TAKES
04:12:29.000 --> 04:12:30.802
WELL OVER 100 DAYS. MOST
04:12:30.869 --> 04:12:32.537
PROVIDERS ARE NOT IN A POSITION
04:12:32.604 --> 04:12:34.072
TO WAIT THAT LONG FOR AN
04:12:34.138 --> 04:12:35.473
EMPLOYEE TO START AND MOST
04:12:35.540 --> 04:12:37.642
APPLICANTS CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT
04:12:37.709 --> 04:12:38.243
THAT LONG TO BEGIN A POSITION
04:12:38.309 --> 04:12:39.277
THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN HIRED
04:12:39.344 --> 04:12:41.012
FOR. MAYBE 17 26 TO SOLVE THIS
04:12:41.079 --> 04:12:42.881
BY ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO MEET
04:12:42.947 --> 04:12:44.716
SPECIFIC CRITERIA TO GO THROUGH
04:12:44.782 --> 04:12:46.050
A SIMPLIFIED EXEMPTION PROCESS,
04:12:46.117 --> 04:12:48.353
WHICH IS MUCH QUICKER. 80 17 20
04:12:48.419 --> 04:12:49.787
ALSO ELIMINATES THE WHAT WE CALL
04:12:49.854 --> 04:12:51.456
THE CANDID TRAP QUESTION AT THE
04:12:51.523 --> 04:12:52.690
BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, WHICH
04:12:52.757 --> 04:12:53.892
RELIES ON INDIVIDUALS AND MEMORY
04:12:53.958 --> 04:12:55.493
OF THEIR CRIMINAL RECORD, AS
04:12:55.560 --> 04:12:57.862
OPPOSED TO THE DOJ RAP SHEET
04:12:57.929 --> 04:12:59.230
WITH DFS ALREADY HAS ACCESS TO
04:12:59.297 --> 04:13:00.732
THIS BILL WILL NOT HAVE ANY
04:13:00.798 --> 04:13:03.234
IMPACT OR NON ACCEPTABLE CRIME,
04:13:03.301 --> 04:13:04.702
NOT ACCEPTABLE CRIMES INCLUDE
04:13:04.769 --> 04:13:05.637
MOST SERIOUS FELONIES AND
04:13:05.703 --> 04:13:07.705
VIOLENT FELONIES. INDIVIDUALS
04:13:07.772 --> 04:13:08.706
CONVICTED OF SUCH CRIMES ARE NOT
04:13:08.773 --> 04:13:09.841
ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH THE
04:13:09.908 --> 04:13:11.709
EXEMPTION PROCESS AND THE STATUS
04:13:11.776 --> 04:13:12.510
QUO AND THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED
04:13:12.577 --> 04:13:15.179
TO GO THROUGH THE EXISTING
04:13:15.246 --> 04:13:15.780
PROCESS AFTER THE PASSAGE OF
04:13:15.847 --> 04:13:17.282
THIS BILL, SO WE SPENT A FEW
04:13:17.348 --> 04:13:18.616
YEARS WORKING ON THIS AND WE'VE
04:13:18.683 --> 04:13:20.351
DONE OUR BEST TO INCLUDE, UM
04:13:20.418 --> 04:13:22.687
POTENTIAL OPPOSITION IN THE PAST
04:13:22.754 --> 04:13:23.354
, AND WE'VE HAD GOOD
04:13:23.421 --> 04:13:24.255
CONVERSATION WITH DSF THEMSELVES
04:13:24.322 --> 04:13:25.857
, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THE
04:13:25.924 --> 04:13:26.691
VERSION OF THE BILL THAT YOU'RE
04:13:26.758 --> 04:13:28.726
LOOKING AT TODAY. UM, IS A
04:13:28.793 --> 04:13:30.962
VERSION THAT STICK THIS SWEET
04:13:31.029 --> 04:13:32.363
SPOT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE
04:13:32.430 --> 04:13:35.600
PROTECT FOLKS BUT FINALLY HAVING
04:13:35.667 --> 04:13:37.068
AN IMPACT ON THIS PROCESS SO
04:13:37.135 --> 04:13:39.637
THAT IT COULD BE, UH, BE A LOT
04:13:39.704 --> 04:13:40.805
QUICKER FOR FOLKS WHO NEED TO
04:13:40.872 --> 04:13:46.044
JUST GET TO WORK. THANK YOU. NOW
04:13:46.110 --> 04:13:48.813
LET'S COME BACK TO ROOM 1 12.
04:13:48.880 --> 04:13:49.614
THERE'S IS THERE ANYONE IN
04:13:49.681 --> 04:13:50.815
SUPPORTIVE SO, UM, I'M SORRY. 17
04:13:50.882 --> 04:13:55.153
20. SEEN A MODERATOR. LET'S GO
04:13:55.219 --> 04:13:57.221
TO OUR PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
04:13:57.288 --> 04:14:00.992
AND SUPPORT OF A B 17 20. AND IF
04:14:01.059 --> 04:14:02.961
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
04:14:03.027 --> 04:14:05.029
A B 17 20 PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
04:14:05.096 --> 04:14:06.397
ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL START
04:14:06.464 --> 04:14:08.166
WITH LINE TO 32. PLEASE GO
04:14:08.232 --> 04:14:12.070
AHEAD. THIS IS LESLIE CALDWELL,
04:14:12.136 --> 04:14:13.905
HOUSTON, CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
04:14:13.972 --> 04:14:15.173
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
04:14:15.239 --> 04:14:20.411
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
04:14:20.478 --> 04:14:21.579
GO ONLINE TO 27. PLEASE GO
04:14:21.646 --> 04:14:25.516
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECA
04:14:25.583 --> 04:14:27.318
GONZALEZ OR THE NATIONALIST SOC
04:14:27.385 --> 04:14:29.354
ATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS.
04:14:29.420 --> 04:14:30.355
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND SUPPORT.
04:14:30.421 --> 04:14:34.792
THANK YOU. TRYING TO 15. PLEASE
04:14:34.859 --> 04:14:39.831
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON,
04:14:39.897 --> 04:14:43.901
SENATOR AND NUMBERS. AS LITTLE
04:14:43.968 --> 04:14:45.069
WITH CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
04:14:45.136 --> 04:14:47.839
JUSTICE. PROUD COSPONSOR IN
04:14:47.905 --> 04:14:52.443
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. FLYING TO
04:14:52.510 --> 04:14:56.280
41. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
04:14:56.347 --> 04:14:58.316
AFTERNOON. THIS IS JIM LINDBERG
04:14:58.383 --> 04:15:00.385
ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS
04:15:00.451 --> 04:15:01.586
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION IN
04:15:01.653 --> 04:15:02.153
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
04:15:02.220 --> 04:15:12.463
YOU. LINE 2 40, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
04:15:12.530 --> 04:15:13.965
GOOD AFTERNOON, GAIL YOUNG WITH
04:15:14.032 --> 04:15:15.433
MARTIN REBOUND CO SPONSOR AND IN
04:15:15.500 --> 04:15:19.337
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
04:15:19.404 --> 04:15:22.907
LINE 2 43, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
04:15:22.974 --> 04:15:25.043
NATALIE ROBERTS FROM A NEW WAY
04:15:25.109 --> 04:15:27.245
OF LIFE, ALSO A CO SPONSOR OF
04:15:27.311 --> 04:15:33.451
THIS BILL AND STRONG SUPPORT.
04:15:33.518 --> 04:15:37.188
LINE 2 30, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
04:15:37.255 --> 04:15:38.756
AFTERNOON, SADIE WATSON WITH THE
04:15:38.823 --> 04:15:40.124
ALAMEDA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
04:15:40.191 --> 04:15:41.492
OFFICE, CLEAN PLATE PROGRAM AND
04:15:41.559 --> 04:15:46.397
STRONG SUPPORT OF 80 17 20. PLAN
04:15:46.464 --> 04:15:51.636
TO 42. PLEASE GO AHEAD. TRY THIS
04:15:51.703 --> 04:15:52.670
DEATH. AVERY FROM THE NATIONAL
04:15:52.737 --> 04:15:54.405
EMPLOYMENT LAW PROJECT, CALLING
04:15:54.472 --> 04:15:59.043
SUPPORT FOR A B 17 20. IN LINE
04:15:59.110 --> 04:16:04.382
TO 34, PLEASE GO AHEAD. BEEN AT
04:16:04.449 --> 04:16:05.483
THE NIGHT COMMUNITY LEGAL
04:16:05.550 --> 04:16:07.552
SERVICES THEY CALL TOÀN MONSTER
04:16:07.618 --> 04:16:13.157
OF 80 17 20 STRONG SPORTS. AND
04:16:13.224 --> 04:16:15.159
MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
04:16:15.226 --> 04:16:17.228
Q AT THIS TIME. GREAT THANK YOU.
04:16:17.295 --> 04:16:18.529
NOW WE'RE GOING TO AFFORD
04:16:18.596 --> 04:16:21.699
OPPOSITION. SAME OPPORTUNITY. IS
04:16:21.766 --> 04:16:24.035
THERE ANYONE AND OPPOSITION OF A
04:16:24.102 --> 04:16:28.439
B? 17 20. THERE'S NO PRIMARY
04:16:28.506 --> 04:16:30.975
LIST. WITNESS LISTED. IN
04:16:31.042 --> 04:16:33.111
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE
04:16:33.177 --> 04:16:33.911
IN ROOM ONE 12-1 MODERATOR,
04:16:33.978 --> 04:16:39.383
LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LAUNCH.
04:16:39.450 --> 04:16:40.752
AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
04:16:40.818 --> 04:16:42.787
OPPOSITION OF A B 17 20 PLEASE
04:16:42.854 --> 04:16:44.622
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS
04:16:44.689 --> 04:16:52.263
TIME. AND MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO
04:16:52.330 --> 04:16:54.866
ONE INTO YOU. AT THIS TIME. I'LL
04:16:54.932 --> 04:16:55.967
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
04:16:56.033 --> 04:16:57.735
SURE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO
04:16:57.802 --> 04:16:59.170
THIS MEASURE MEASURE? IT'S BEEN
04:16:59.237 --> 04:17:01.472
MOVED BY SENATOR SKINNER. A
04:17:01.539 --> 04:17:02.607
SIMILAR MAN HOLDING. WOULD YOU
04:17:02.673 --> 04:17:07.078
LIKE CLOTHES? YES MR CHAIRMAN.
04:17:07.145 --> 04:17:08.546
YOU KNOW, WE RAN THIS BILL IN 8,
04:17:08.613 --> 04:17:11.883
2000 AND 18 AND 2019. WE'RE
04:17:11.949 --> 04:17:13.851
HOPING THE THIRD TIME WILL BE A
04:17:13.918 --> 04:17:14.986
CHARM. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO
04:17:15.052 --> 04:17:17.188
VOTE. YOU WE HAVE A MOTION BY
04:17:17.255 --> 04:17:19.290
SENATOR SCANNER. WE HAVE A DO
04:17:19.357 --> 04:17:20.992
PASS THE APPROPRIATIONS. COUNCIL
04:17:21.058 --> 04:17:23.094
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON A B 17
04:17:23.161 --> 04:17:28.299
20. A B 17 20 BRADFORD. BRADFORD
04:17:28.366 --> 04:17:30.268
I A KOBO GBAGBO GUY KAMLAGER
04:17:30.334 --> 04:17:36.541
SKINNER. SKINNER. I WIENER.
04:17:36.607 --> 04:17:37.909
MEASURE HAS THREE VOTES WILL
04:17:37.975 --> 04:17:39.544
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
04:17:39.610 --> 04:17:41.712
MEMBERS. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE
04:17:41.779 --> 04:17:43.614
ON THE FILE ITEM. 2017 37. MR
04:17:43.681 --> 04:17:47.885
HOLDEN, YOU MAYBE GET THANK YOU,
04:17:47.952 --> 04:17:49.120
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
04:17:49.187 --> 04:17:51.189
COMMITTEE. I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST
04:17:51.255 --> 04:17:52.356
NOTE THAT I WILL BE ACCEPTING
04:17:52.423 --> 04:17:53.925
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. THIS
04:17:53.991 --> 04:17:55.159
COMING SUMMER CHILDREN ALL OVER
04:17:55.226 --> 04:17:56.060
CALIFORNIA, WILL ATTEND
04:17:56.127 --> 04:17:59.030
THOUSANDS OF CAMPS. OF THESE
04:17:59.096 --> 04:18:00.131
CAMPS ONLY OVERNIGHT CANCER
04:18:00.198 --> 04:18:01.265
REQUIRED TO FOLLOW STATE
04:18:01.332 --> 04:18:04.302
REGULATIONS. STATE CAMPS
04:18:04.368 --> 04:18:05.803
ATTENDED BY CHILDREN, WHICH
04:18:05.870 --> 04:18:06.771
CONSTITUTE THE VAST MAJORITY OF
04:18:06.838 --> 04:18:08.806
CAMPS IN CALIFORNIA ARE NOT
04:18:08.873 --> 04:18:09.507
REQUIRED TO FOLLOW ANY
04:18:09.574 --> 04:18:11.242
REGULATIONS OR LAWS REGARDING
04:18:11.309 --> 04:18:12.343
CHILD SAFETY, INCLUDING SEX
04:18:12.410 --> 04:18:16.047
OFFENDER AND BACKGROUND CHECKS.
04:18:16.113 --> 04:18:17.849
THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT HAS
04:18:17.915 --> 04:18:19.550
BEEN EVIDENT THAT THERE IS A
04:18:19.617 --> 04:18:21.118
WIDE VARIETY OF FACTORS AND
04:18:21.185 --> 04:18:22.486
STAKEHOLDERS TO CONSIDER
04:18:22.553 --> 04:18:23.588
REGARDING THE REGULATION OF
04:18:23.654 --> 04:18:26.757
CHILDREN'S CAMPS. IS THAT MOST
04:18:26.824 --> 04:18:27.892
APPROPRIATE TO REGULATE CAMPS AT
04:18:27.959 --> 04:18:29.961
THE LOCAL OR STATE LEVEL. OR
04:18:30.027 --> 04:18:31.195
SHOULD THERE BE A COLLABORATION
04:18:31.262 --> 04:18:34.432
BETWEEN BOTH? HOW DO WE
04:18:34.498 --> 04:18:36.033
DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN CAMPS WITH
04:18:36.100 --> 04:18:37.969
LOWER RISK ACTIVITIES AND THOSE
04:18:38.035 --> 04:18:39.036
THAT PROVIDE HIGHER RISK
04:18:39.103 --> 04:18:43.241
ACTIVITIES? WHAT CAMP SHOULD BE
04:18:43.307 --> 04:18:44.275
INSPECTED FOR SAFETY AND HOW
04:18:44.342 --> 04:18:47.044
OFTEN TO FULLY ANSWER THESE
04:18:47.111 --> 04:18:49.547
QUESTIONS AND OTHERS A B 17 37
04:18:49.614 --> 04:18:51.082
BRINGS TOGETHER STAKEHOLDERS AND
04:18:51.148 --> 04:18:52.149
PRACTITIONERS ACROSS THE STATE
04:18:52.216 --> 04:18:55.586
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. LOCAL
04:18:55.653 --> 04:18:57.655
GOVERNMENT, CHILD ADVOCATES AND
04:18:57.722 --> 04:18:59.223
SAFETY EXPERTS TO FOCUS ON
04:18:59.290 --> 04:19:00.324
DEVELOPING APPROPRIATE
04:19:00.391 --> 04:19:01.325
REGULATIONS FOR THE CHILD
04:19:01.392 --> 04:19:04.295
CAMPING INDUSTRY. THIS GROUP
04:19:04.362 --> 04:19:05.963
WILL DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR
04:19:06.030 --> 04:19:08.065
CHILDREN, CHILDREN'S CAMP SAFETY
04:19:08.132 --> 04:19:09.800
AND SUBMITTED TO THE GOVERNOR
04:19:09.867 --> 04:19:10.935
AND LEGISLATURE AND JANUARY OF
04:19:11.002 --> 04:19:17.174
2024. WE ARE HOPING. YEAH, 24
04:19:17.241 --> 04:19:18.409
BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE THE
04:19:18.476 --> 04:19:20.411
END OF 24. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT
04:19:20.478 --> 04:19:22.213
JANUARY, 24. WHILE OPEN QUESTION
04:19:22.280 --> 04:19:26.517
REMAINS WHAT WE DO NOW IS THAT
04:19:26.584 --> 04:19:28.052
CALIFORNIA'S LAWS FOR CAMP
04:19:28.119 --> 04:19:29.587
SAFETY MUST CHANGE SO PARENTS
04:19:29.654 --> 04:19:30.721
ACROSS THE STATE MAY REST
04:19:30.788 --> 04:19:31.923
ASSURED THEIR CHILD WILL RETURN
04:19:31.989 --> 04:19:34.225
HOME SAFELY. THANK YOU AND I
04:19:34.292 --> 04:19:40.965
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
04:19:41.032 --> 04:19:42.500
THERE'S NO PRIMARY WITNESS AND
04:19:42.566 --> 04:19:44.235
SUPPORT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
04:19:44.302 --> 04:19:46.103
THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
04:19:46.170 --> 04:19:48.806
SUPPORT OF 17 37, PLEASE STATE
04:19:48.873 --> 04:19:49.874
YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION,
04:19:49.941 --> 04:19:50.942
PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
04:19:51.008 --> 04:19:53.611
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, KATHY BARANKIN
04:19:53.678 --> 04:19:55.079
WITH A CALIFORNIA COLLABORATION
04:19:55.146 --> 04:19:56.580
FOR YOUTH. WE'VE WITHDRAWN OUR
04:19:56.647 --> 04:19:58.382
OPPOSITION AND BELIEVE THAT THIS
04:19:58.449 --> 04:19:59.483
BILL, WHICH WILL SET UP A
04:19:59.550 --> 04:20:02.086
WORKFORCE. TASK FORCE TO WORK
04:20:02.153 --> 04:20:04.722
WITH STAKEHOLDERS IS A VERY GOOD
04:20:04.789 --> 04:20:06.090
IDEA, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
04:20:06.157 --> 04:20:07.124
PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROCESS.
04:20:07.191 --> 04:20:13.931
THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
04:20:13.998 --> 04:20:15.466
DAN PHYLLIS OTTO ON BEHALF OF
04:20:15.533 --> 04:20:16.968
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
04:20:17.034 --> 04:20:17.601
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.
04:20:17.668 --> 04:20:18.936
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
04:20:19.003 --> 04:20:21.005
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM 1 12,
04:20:21.072 --> 04:20:23.441
WHICH INTENSIFYING SUPPORT 18
04:20:23.507 --> 04:20:25.176
NONE. MODERATOR. LET'S GO TO OUR
04:20:25.242 --> 04:20:27.712
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WISHING TO
04:20:27.778 --> 04:20:33.084
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF 17 37.
04:20:33.150 --> 04:20:34.618
AND IF YOU WISH YOU CAN SUPPORT
04:20:34.685 --> 04:20:37.288
OF A B 17 37 PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
04:20:37.355 --> 04:20:41.659
THIS TIME. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
04:20:41.726 --> 04:20:45.229
2 45, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
04:20:45.296 --> 04:20:47.231
AFTERNOON. MR CARE. REMEMBER DON
04:20:47.298 --> 04:20:48.699
ASIDE FOR PRESENTING THE LOS
04:20:48.766 --> 04:20:49.567
ANGELES COUNTY BOARD OF
04:20:49.633 --> 04:20:50.601
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORTED THE B
04:20:50.668 --> 04:20:57.208
17 37. THANK YOU. MRS CHERRY HAD
04:20:57.274 --> 04:21:01.045
NO PROSECUTE THIS TIME. GREAT
04:21:01.112 --> 04:21:02.079
AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO
04:21:02.146 --> 04:21:07.184
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE ONE. AH LEAD
04:21:07.251 --> 04:21:09.553
WITNESSED DOUG FORBES. IS HE
04:21:09.620 --> 04:21:20.698
ANNOYING? MODERATORS STEP
04:21:20.765 --> 04:21:26.070
FORWARD ON THE LINE. MR CHERRY.
04:21:26.137 --> 04:21:27.638
DON'T SEE HIM ON THE LINE. OKAY
04:21:27.705 --> 04:21:29.573
THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO
04:21:29.640 --> 04:21:30.608
WITNESSES HERE AND ROOM. 1 12,
04:21:30.674 --> 04:21:32.943
THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION. YOU
04:21:33.010 --> 04:21:34.345
CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR
04:21:34.412 --> 04:21:36.047
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
04:21:36.113 --> 04:21:38.082
MR CHAIR, ALSO PREVIOUSLY IN
04:21:38.149 --> 04:21:41.752
LEAD OPPOSITION I AM CHRISTINA
04:21:41.819 --> 04:21:42.620
DICARO, REPRESENTING THE
04:21:42.686 --> 04:21:44.722
CALIFORNIA LIBRARY ASSOCIATION,
04:21:44.789 --> 04:21:46.424
AND C L. A HAD AN OPPOSED
04:21:46.490 --> 04:21:49.193
POSITION ON THE BILL. UM BASED
04:21:49.260 --> 04:21:50.061
ON THE INCLUSION OF SECTION
04:21:50.127 --> 04:21:53.431
6003.5, WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE
04:21:53.497 --> 04:21:56.934
NEW SECTION 6000. IN THE 6
04:21:57.001 --> 04:21:59.437
60,000 IN THE BILL, IT WOULD
04:21:59.503 --> 04:22:00.938
HAVE MADE PUBLIC LIBRARY
04:22:01.005 --> 04:22:03.040
DIRECTORS MANDATED REPORTERS, UM
04:22:03.107 --> 04:22:04.775
PUBLIC LIBRARIES HAD TOLD US
04:22:04.842 --> 04:22:07.044
THAT IF THEY AND THEIR STAFF HAD
04:22:07.111 --> 04:22:07.678
TO BECOME MANDATED REPORTERS,
04:22:07.745 --> 04:22:08.679
THEY WOULD JUST SHUT THEIR
04:22:08.746 --> 04:22:12.016
PROGRAMS DOWN. IT APPEARS IF I
04:22:12.083 --> 04:22:13.684
UNDERSTAND THE AMENDMENTS
04:22:13.751 --> 04:22:15.186
CORRECTLY, THAT THAT SECTION
04:22:15.252 --> 04:22:18.823
WILL BE TAKEN OUT, AND I SEE THE
04:22:18.889 --> 04:22:19.857
CHIEF CONSULTANT NODDING AND I
04:22:19.924 --> 04:22:21.892
HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ON THIS
04:22:21.959 --> 04:22:23.694
IN THE HALLWAY WITH THE AUTHOR.
04:22:23.761 --> 04:22:25.863
AND SO THAT WILL MAKE THE PUBLIC
04:22:25.930 --> 04:22:26.864
LIBRARIES VERY PLEASED. WE
04:22:26.931 --> 04:22:28.566
SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE TO A
04:22:28.632 --> 04:22:29.967
NEUTRAL POSITION. I JUST REALLY
04:22:30.034 --> 04:22:31.502
WANT TO THANK THIS COMMITTEE,
04:22:31.569 --> 04:22:32.703
AND MARY KENNEDY, YOUR CHIEF
04:22:32.770 --> 04:22:34.905
CONSULTANT FOR ALL OF THE HARD
04:22:34.972 --> 04:22:35.973
WORK AND THANK THE AUTHOR, OF
04:22:36.040 --> 04:22:37.475
COURSE AND FRANKLIN FOR THEIR
04:22:37.541 --> 04:22:38.542
OPEN DOOR POLICY WITH US
04:22:38.609 --> 04:22:40.211
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. THANK
04:22:40.277 --> 04:22:41.278
YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
04:22:41.345 --> 04:22:45.149
TESTIMONY NEXT WITNESS. THANK
04:22:45.216 --> 04:22:47.051
YOU. NATHAN PEARCE, PRIVATE HOME
04:22:47.118 --> 04:22:49.153
EDUCATORS OF CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE
04:22:49.220 --> 04:22:52.089
ECHOED, UH, COMMENTS FROM LA. WE
04:22:52.156 --> 04:22:53.591
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF THE
04:22:53.657 --> 04:22:54.992
BILL AND APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS
04:22:55.059 --> 04:22:56.727
OFFICE WORKING WITH US ON A
04:22:56.794 --> 04:22:58.162
COUPLE OF CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS.
04:22:58.229 --> 04:23:01.966
UM, WE DON'T SUPPORT AT THIS
04:23:02.032 --> 04:23:03.167
TIME, BUT ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
04:23:03.234 --> 04:23:04.969
BEING ABLE TO DO THAT SOON.
04:23:05.035 --> 04:23:06.003
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
04:23:06.070 --> 04:23:08.005
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
04:23:08.072 --> 04:23:09.106
OPPOSITION OR TWEENERS RIGHT NOW
04:23:09.173 --> 04:23:14.745
ON 17 37. HEARING NONE. LET'S GO
04:23:14.812 --> 04:23:16.947
TO OUR PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
04:23:17.014 --> 04:23:17.982
THERE'S WITNESSES WISHING TO
04:23:18.048 --> 04:23:21.552
TESTIFY AND OPPOSITION. THING
04:23:21.619 --> 04:23:23.487
WAS CHAIRED. AND IF YOU WISH TO
04:23:23.554 --> 04:23:24.588
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF 17 37,
04:23:24.655 --> 04:23:26.524
PLEASE PRESS ONE. THEN YOU'RE AT
04:23:26.590 --> 04:23:29.493
THIS TIME. WE'LL GO TO LINE 2
04:23:29.560 --> 04:23:38.469
46, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 2 46. YOUR
04:23:38.536 --> 04:23:44.775
LINE IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
04:23:44.842 --> 04:23:45.876
HI ELICIT STILL HIGH OR WITH THE
04:23:45.943 --> 04:23:47.244
CITIES OF BAKERSFIELD, BELMONT,
04:23:47.311 --> 04:23:50.247
CARL'S BEEN AND REDWOOD CITY. UM
04:23:50.314 --> 04:23:52.416
AN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, AS IT
04:23:52.483 --> 04:23:53.684
WAS CURRENTLY DRAFTED AND THEN
04:23:53.751 --> 04:23:55.519
LINING OUR COMMENTS WITH THE
04:23:55.586 --> 04:23:56.353
CALIFORNIA LIBRARIES
04:23:56.420 --> 04:23:57.288
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. THANK
04:23:57.354 --> 04:24:04.461
YOU. GUIDELINE 2 37 AHEAD. YES
04:24:04.528 --> 04:24:05.462
THIS IS DOUG FORBES. I WAS
04:24:05.529 --> 04:24:06.830
ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO PARTICIPATE
04:24:06.897 --> 04:24:08.399
BEFORE BY PHONE AND COULD NOT
04:24:08.465 --> 04:24:11.001
GET THROUGH. SO UM, IF WE WOULD
04:24:11.068 --> 04:24:13.103
BE OKAY WITH THE CHAIR I WOULD
04:24:13.170 --> 04:24:14.271
LIKE TO ACTUALLY. EXPLAIN MY
04:24:14.338 --> 04:24:15.606
OPPOSITION. AND YOU'RE DOUG
04:24:15.673 --> 04:24:20.644
FORBES. I AM. OKAY. YOU HAVE TWO
04:24:20.711 --> 04:24:25.549
MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'M DOUG
04:24:25.616 --> 04:24:26.951
FORBES, PRESIDENT OF MIAMI HOW
04:24:27.017 --> 04:24:28.686
FOUNDATION AND OPPOSITION UNLESS
04:24:28.752 --> 04:24:29.420
SIGNIFICANTLY AMENDED. THIS
04:24:29.486 --> 04:24:30.988
BILL'S ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH
04:24:31.055 --> 04:24:33.891
DECISIONS, A CAMP IN LOS ANGELES
04:24:33.958 --> 04:24:34.592
COUNTY AND THE RED CROSS
04:24:34.658 --> 04:24:35.559
REPRESENTATIVES MADE A LIFE AND
04:24:35.626 --> 04:24:37.228
DEATH DECISION TO PROJECT
04:24:37.294 --> 04:24:38.229
STARTED BY COUNSELORS.
04:24:38.295 --> 04:24:39.163
LIFEGUARDS IN ORDER TO SAVE
04:24:39.230 --> 04:24:40.564
MONEY. THEIR DECISION KILLED MY
04:24:40.631 --> 04:24:41.732
SIX YEAR OLD DAUGHTER ROCKS IN
04:24:41.799 --> 04:24:44.034
THEIR COOL. THEY'VE ADMITTED TO
04:24:44.101 --> 04:24:45.069
THAT DECISION, DESPITE THE
04:24:45.135 --> 04:24:46.570
SUBMISSION THAT CAMPUS OPERATING
04:24:46.637 --> 04:24:48.806
TODAY, WHICH IS THE EXACT DAY
04:24:48.872 --> 04:24:50.074
JUNE 28TH, BUT THEY KILLED ROSSI
04:24:50.140 --> 04:24:52.276
THREE YEARS AGO. STATE OF
04:24:52.343 --> 04:24:53.877
CALIFORNIA HAS MADE A LIFE AND
04:24:53.944 --> 04:24:54.511
DEATH DECISION TO ALLOW
04:24:54.578 --> 04:24:55.913
THOUSANDS OF CAMPS WHICH WERE
04:24:55.980 --> 04:24:57.348
CHILDCARE ABERRATIONS SERVING
04:24:57.414 --> 04:24:58.983
MILLIONS OF KIDS TO OPERATE
04:24:59.049 --> 04:24:59.883
WITHOUT REQUIREMENTS FOR
04:24:59.950 --> 04:25:00.851
LICENSES. HEALTH SUPERVISORS
04:25:00.918 --> 04:25:01.418
BACKGROUND CHECKS, EMERGENCY
04:25:01.485 --> 04:25:03.988
ACTION PLANS. CHILD DEVELOPMENT
04:25:04.054 --> 04:25:05.923
TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR OWNERS
04:25:05.990 --> 04:25:07.524
AND ANY CERTIFICATIONS TO
04:25:07.591 --> 04:25:08.492
OPERATE HIGH RISK ACTIVITIES
04:25:08.559 --> 04:25:09.627
SUCH AS LIVE AMMUNITION, GUN
04:25:09.693 --> 04:25:12.997
RANGE AND ZIPLOC. DESPITE OUR
04:25:13.063 --> 04:25:14.632
RELENTLESS, NEARLY UNBEARABLE
04:25:14.698 --> 04:25:16.033
SUFFERING, WE MADE A LIFE IN
04:25:16.100 --> 04:25:17.401
THAT DECISION TO END THIS
04:25:17.468 --> 04:25:18.936
MADNESS. OUR FOUNDATION BROUGHT
04:25:19.003 --> 04:25:20.537
THIS ISSUE IN A MAJORITY OF THE
04:25:20.604 --> 04:25:22.039
BILL. LANGUAGE NEVER HOLDING.
04:25:22.106 --> 04:25:23.173
YOU AGREED TO CARRY THE MEASURE
04:25:23.240 --> 04:25:24.908
AND EMBRACE US AS SPONSOR. SADLY
04:25:24.975 --> 04:25:26.844
MEMBER HOLDING, IN TURN MADE A
04:25:26.910 --> 04:25:27.411
LIFE AND DEATH DECISION TO
04:25:27.478 --> 04:25:28.946
RELENT TO THE AMERICAN CAMP
04:25:29.013 --> 04:25:30.481
ASSOCIATION, CAMP LOT AND COUNTY
04:25:30.547 --> 04:25:31.815
HEALTH LOBBIES AND OTHER SPECIAL
04:25:31.882 --> 04:25:33.517
INTERESTS. MR HOLDEN GUTTED THE
04:25:33.584 --> 04:25:35.552
BILL. OF ALL THE PROVISIONS WE
04:25:35.619 --> 04:25:37.221
REQUESTED AND GRANTED THE CAMP
04:25:37.288 --> 04:25:38.088
JUST WISHES. PENCE WEDDING NOW
04:25:38.155 --> 04:25:39.857
FERVENTLY SUPPORT PER KAMPL
04:25:39.923 --> 04:25:41.558
OBVIOUS MISS BARANKIN TESTIMONY
04:25:41.625 --> 04:25:43.460
BEFORE CANCER AND CAMPBELL
04:25:43.527 --> 04:25:44.695
LOBBYISTS LIKE THE AMERICAN CAMP
04:25:44.762 --> 04:25:46.196
ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATION, MAKE
04:25:46.263 --> 04:25:47.698
LIFE AND DEATH DECISIONS OVER
04:25:47.765 --> 04:25:49.266
AND OVER IN FAVOR OF THE STATUS
04:25:49.333 --> 04:25:51.735
QUO TO PROTECT CANCEL OVER KIDS.
04:25:51.802 --> 04:25:52.970
IT'S WHY THERE'S A NATIONAL
04:25:53.037 --> 04:25:54.305
EPIDEMIC OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE
04:25:54.371 --> 04:25:56.106
IT CASTS AND WHITE CHILDREN LIKE
04:25:56.173 --> 04:25:57.341
ROXY AND COLIN JACOBSEN, NATALIE
04:25:57.408 --> 04:25:58.342
GIORGIA, MYRIAD OTHERS SUFFER
04:25:58.409 --> 04:26:01.945
HARM. THIS MORNING, LOS ANGELES
04:26:02.012 --> 04:26:03.547
COUNTY MADE A LIFE AND DEATH
04:26:03.614 --> 04:26:05.082
DECISION TO PASS OUR ROBUST
04:26:05.149 --> 04:26:06.483
CAN'T SAFETY LEGISLATION
04:26:06.550 --> 04:26:08.452
AFFECTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
04:26:08.519 --> 04:26:09.653
? YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION
04:26:09.720 --> 04:26:11.488
TODAY TO IMPOSE THIS COWARDLY MY
04:26:11.555 --> 04:26:13.991
OFFICE FRIENDLY ANTI CHILD
04:26:14.058 --> 04:26:16.060
SAFETY BILL, OURFOUNDATION AND
04:26:16.126 --> 04:26:16.994
OUR SUPPORTERS LIKE THE BEAU
04:26:17.061 --> 04:26:18.495
BIDEN FOUNDATION, WHICH IS NOW
04:26:18.562 --> 04:26:20.531
HORRIFIED BY THIS BILL, ASSURE
04:26:20.597 --> 04:26:21.699
YOU THAT THE DECISION TO SUPPORT
04:26:21.765 --> 04:26:24.068
A B 17 37 IS ON THE WRONG SIDE
04:26:24.134 --> 04:26:26.236
OF THE LIFE. OR DEATH EQUATION.
04:26:26.303 --> 04:26:27.871
PLEASE OPPOSE UNLESS RESTORED
04:26:27.938 --> 04:26:31.075
SOME SENSE OF A DIGNIFIED BILL
04:26:31.141 --> 04:26:32.076
THAT PRIORITIZES OUR MOST
04:26:32.142 --> 04:26:32.910
PRECIOUS CARGO. THANK YOU. THANK
04:26:32.976 --> 04:26:38.148
YOU. NOW LET'S GO BACK TO THE
04:26:38.215 --> 04:26:40.150
PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
04:26:40.217 --> 04:26:41.085
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
04:26:41.151 --> 04:26:46.156
OPPOSITION. AND WE'VE GOT A LINE
04:26:46.223 --> 04:26:49.560
TO 47. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
04:26:49.626 --> 04:26:50.928
YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS MEGAN
04:26:50.994 --> 04:26:52.463
ALREADY ON BEHALF OF THE
04:26:52.529 --> 04:26:53.697
CALIFORNIA WATER PAL ASSOCIATION
04:26:53.764 --> 04:26:55.599
OR MOVING OPPOSITION TO THE SELF
04:26:55.666 --> 04:26:56.934
. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORKS OF
04:26:57.000 --> 04:26:59.203
THE NUMBERS, THEN AND STAFF AND
04:26:59.269 --> 04:27:00.504
WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE
04:27:00.571 --> 04:27:01.572
OPPOSITION AT THE TIME OF
04:27:01.638 --> 04:27:03.073
STUDENT ROLE. THANK YOU NEXT
04:27:03.140 --> 04:27:08.746
WITNESS. MISS CHERRY. HAVE NO
04:27:08.812 --> 04:27:10.547
ONE ELSE IN CUBA THIS TIME. OKAY
04:27:10.614 --> 04:27:12.683
NO MORE, SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK
04:27:12.750 --> 04:27:13.851
TO OUR COMMITTEES FOR QUESTIONS.
04:27:13.917 --> 04:27:19.723
SCENARIO, COBURG SO I JUST. I
04:27:19.790 --> 04:27:21.859
HAD A REALLY HARD TIME FOLLOWING
04:27:21.925 --> 04:27:22.359
THE WHITNEY, WITNESSING
04:27:22.426 --> 04:27:25.963
OPPOSITION. UM BUT I SAW YOU
04:27:26.029 --> 04:27:27.331
NODDING YOUR FACE. WOULD YOU
04:27:27.398 --> 04:27:28.432
MIND JUST SUMMARIZING REALLY
04:27:28.499 --> 04:27:29.600
QUICK WHAT HIS CONCERN WAS IN IN
04:27:29.666 --> 04:27:33.537
IN I NOTICED THAT YOU DISAGREED
04:27:33.604 --> 04:27:34.671
WITH WHAT HE WAS SAYING. SO
04:27:34.738 --> 04:27:38.175
WELL, I DISAGREE HOW HE
04:27:38.242 --> 04:27:42.546
CHARACTERIZED IT. IN TERMS OF MR
04:27:42.613 --> 04:27:44.548
HOLDEN GUTTING THE BILL. I DON'T
04:27:44.615 --> 04:27:47.050
GUT MY BILLS. SO I GO THROUGH A
04:27:47.117 --> 04:27:48.252
PROCESS AND I TAKE OR I DON'T
04:27:48.318 --> 04:27:50.421
TAKE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.
04:27:50.487 --> 04:27:53.557
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT
04:27:53.624 --> 04:27:56.660
AREA. I'M NOT THE FIRST TO GIVE
04:27:56.727 --> 04:27:58.395
IT A SHOT TO TRY TO REGULATE AN
04:27:58.462 --> 04:28:01.331
UNREGULATED AREA WHERE DAY CAMPS
04:28:01.398 --> 04:28:03.300
AND CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THEM ARE
04:28:03.367 --> 04:28:04.635
AT RISK. SO THE GENERAL PREMISE
04:28:04.701 --> 04:28:07.671
OF HIS ARGUMENT IS ONE, WHICH I
04:28:07.738 --> 04:28:09.606
EMBRACE, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS
04:28:09.673 --> 04:28:10.707
PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
04:28:10.774 --> 04:28:12.509
THE BILL AND STILL SUPPORT THOSE
04:28:12.576 --> 04:28:13.877
ELEMENTS OF WHAT HE THOUGHT WERE
04:28:13.944 --> 04:28:15.512
IMPORTANT AND NEEDED TO STAY IN
04:28:15.579 --> 04:28:17.347
THE BILL. BUT UNLIKE L. A
04:28:17.414 --> 04:28:21.285
COUNTY, WHICH HAS. FIVE
04:28:21.351 --> 04:28:23.320
SUPERVISORS, AND ALL YOU NEED IS
04:28:23.387 --> 04:28:24.955
THREE TO MOVE SOMETHING ALONG.
04:28:25.022 --> 04:28:26.457
THIS IS A PROCESS. AS YOU ALL
04:28:26.523 --> 04:28:28.025
KNOW THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT
04:28:28.091 --> 04:28:29.893
MORE REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE
04:28:29.960 --> 04:28:31.328
AND DEMANDS A WHOLE LOT MORE.
04:28:31.395 --> 04:28:32.830
AND WHAT WE COME FORWARD WITH IT
04:28:32.896 --> 04:28:35.032
IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
04:28:35.098 --> 04:28:36.967
HOW TO REGULATE AN AREA THAT IS
04:28:37.034 --> 04:28:38.502
CURRENTLY NOT REGULATED.
04:28:38.569 --> 04:28:40.404
EVERYBODY THINKS IT NEEDS TO BE
04:28:40.471 --> 04:28:42.406
ALL THE AGENCIES THAT SAY IT'S A
04:28:42.473 --> 04:28:43.640
GOOD IDEA. NONE OF THEM WANT TO
04:28:43.707 --> 04:28:46.844
EMBRACE IT. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE
04:28:46.910 --> 04:28:47.744
TODAY IS THIS COMMITTEE HAS
04:28:47.811 --> 04:28:50.380
REALLY STRIPPED IT DOWN TO IS A
04:28:50.447 --> 04:28:51.582
WORKING GROUP DESIGNED TO TAKE
04:28:51.648 --> 04:28:53.884
ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES.
04:28:53.951 --> 04:28:56.587
THAT CERTAINLY ARE VERY MUCH A
04:28:56.653 --> 04:28:58.121
PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND
04:28:58.188 --> 04:29:00.123
ALLOW THE WORKING GROUP TO SORT
04:29:00.190 --> 04:29:02.125
OF COME BACK WITH SOME CLEAR
04:29:02.192 --> 04:29:03.627
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE
04:29:03.694 --> 04:29:06.129
LEGISLATURE CAN EMBRACE IN
04:29:06.196 --> 04:29:08.932
JANUARY 2024 WHICH TIME WE WILL
04:29:08.999 --> 04:29:10.968
HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF WHO WILL BE
04:29:11.034 --> 04:29:12.169
THE REGULATOR OF THIS IMPORTANT
04:29:12.236 --> 04:29:15.606
AREA. THAT HAS THIS VOID OF
04:29:15.672 --> 04:29:16.773
OWNERSHIP FROM A REGULATORY
04:29:16.840 --> 04:29:20.377
STANDPOINT. AMONG THE WHOLE HOST
04:29:20.444 --> 04:29:21.979
OF OTHER ISSUES, MANY OF WHICH
04:29:22.045 --> 04:29:27.150
MR FORBES HAS IDENTIFIED BUT.
04:29:27.217 --> 04:29:28.519
YOU KNOW, I KNOW HE'S BEEN
04:29:28.585 --> 04:29:30.420
THROUGH A LOT AS A AS A PARENT
04:29:30.487 --> 04:29:32.990
WHO HAS LOST HIS CHILD, AND I
04:29:33.056 --> 04:29:34.958
AYE. I AGREE WITH HIM. BUT AT
04:29:35.025 --> 04:29:38.462
THE SAME TIME IT'S VERY
04:29:38.529 --> 04:29:41.031
IMPORTANT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD
04:29:41.098 --> 04:29:42.666
THAT WE PUT FORWARD LEGISLATION
04:29:42.733 --> 04:29:46.503
THAT CAN GAIN A CONSENSUS. THAT
04:29:46.570 --> 04:29:48.272
IS LOOKING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE
04:29:48.338 --> 04:29:50.941
IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. AND THIS
04:29:51.008 --> 04:29:53.076
BILL JUST NEEDS MORE TIME TO DO
04:29:53.143 --> 04:29:55.546
THAT. IT GRIEVES ME TO SAY THAT
04:29:55.612 --> 04:29:57.548
BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT
04:29:57.614 --> 04:29:58.715
WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN OUR ARMS
04:29:58.782 --> 04:30:00.417
AROUND THIS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS
04:30:00.484 --> 04:30:02.119
ALONG THE WAY. BUT BECAUSE WE
04:30:02.185 --> 04:30:04.454
WERE NOT THE OPTION IS TO WALK
04:30:04.521 --> 04:30:08.959
AWAY. I DON'T THINK SO. SO
04:30:09.026 --> 04:30:10.327
HAVING A WORKING GROUP, WHICH
04:30:10.394 --> 04:30:11.995
WILL BE A PART OF THAT AS WELL
04:30:12.062 --> 04:30:14.164
AND OTHERS THAT ARE PART OF THE
04:30:14.231 --> 04:30:17.100
INDUSTRY. UM YOU KNOW WE'RE
04:30:17.167 --> 04:30:19.136
GOING TO CONTINUE TO PRESS
04:30:19.202 --> 04:30:20.337
FORWARD BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS
04:30:20.404 --> 04:30:22.472
IS AN AREA. THAT CRIES OUT FOR
04:30:22.539 --> 04:30:27.744
ATTENTION. AND I THINK MR FORBES
04:30:27.811 --> 04:30:29.680
AND OTHERS WHO HAVE RAISED IT
04:30:29.746 --> 04:30:30.948
AND BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION,
04:30:31.014 --> 04:30:33.383
AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
04:30:33.450 --> 04:30:35.519
IT'S NOT AS FULL AND ROBUST AS
04:30:35.586 --> 04:30:37.921
WE'D LIKE IT TO BE TODAY, BUT
04:30:37.988 --> 04:30:41.291
WE'LL GET THERE. QUÊ. ANY
04:30:41.358 --> 04:30:41.792
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ARE
04:30:41.858 --> 04:30:43.293
CONCERNED AS IT RELATES TO THIS
04:30:43.360 --> 04:30:46.063
MEASURE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A
04:30:46.129 --> 04:30:46.663
NEW PATH AS AMENDED,
04:30:46.730 --> 04:30:50.067
RECOMMENDED. RECOMMENDATION. IS
04:30:50.133 --> 04:30:54.738
THERE A MOTION ON THIS MEASURE?
04:30:54.805 --> 04:30:55.872
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
04:30:55.939 --> 04:31:00.110
SKINNER. COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE
04:31:00.177 --> 04:31:03.614
ROLL ON A B 17 37. A B 17 37
04:31:03.680 --> 04:31:07.584
BRADFORD. I HEARD I CHOSE BOGUE
04:31:07.651 --> 04:31:10.087
BOAKYE KAMLAGER. SKINNER.
04:31:10.153 --> 04:31:14.958
SKINNER. AYE. THE MEASURE HAS
04:31:15.025 --> 04:31:16.493
THREE VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROLE
04:31:16.560 --> 04:31:18.829
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS NOW ON
04:31:18.895 --> 04:31:22.599
TO FILE ITEM 21 25 15. THANK
04:31:22.666 --> 04:31:24.735
YOU, MR CHAIR TODAY. I'M
04:31:24.801 --> 04:31:27.037
PRESENTING A B 25 15 A BILL THAT
04:31:27.104 --> 04:31:28.405
REQUIRES A PERSON REGISTERED AS
04:31:28.472 --> 04:31:29.873
A PROPRIETARY PRIVATE SECURITY
04:31:29.940 --> 04:31:31.708
EMPLOYER TO DELIVER A WRITTEN
04:31:31.775 --> 04:31:33.310
REPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
04:31:33.377 --> 04:31:34.211
CONSUMER AFFAIRS, DESCRIBING THE
04:31:34.277 --> 04:31:35.646
CONCERT C<c.cyan> STANCES SURROUNDING</c>
04:31:35.712 --> 04:31:38.749
ANY PHYSICAL ALTERCATION WITH A
04:31:38.815 --> 04:31:39.816
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC BY
04:31:39.883 --> 04:31:41.218
REGISTERED PROPRIETARY PRIVATE
04:31:41.284 --> 04:31:43.487
SECURITY OFFICER ACTING WITHIN
04:31:43.553 --> 04:31:45.889
THE SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT
04:31:45.956 --> 04:31:47.090
WITHIN SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS AFTER
04:31:47.157 --> 04:31:49.559
THE QUALIFYING INCIDENT. AS YOU
04:31:49.626 --> 04:31:50.861
MAY RECALL. LAST YEAR I AUTHORED
04:31:50.927 --> 04:31:54.698
A B 20 TO 29. WHICH THIS
04:31:54.765 --> 04:31:56.600
COMMITTEE PAST 50 WITH AN
04:31:56.667 --> 04:31:57.668
OVERWHELMING BIPARTISAN SUPPORT,
04:31:57.734 --> 04:31:59.936
AND GOVERNOR NEWSOM SIGN THE
04:32:00.003 --> 04:32:01.405
BILL THAT REQUIRES PRIVATE
04:32:01.471 --> 04:32:03.707
PATROL OPERATORS TO REPORT THIS
04:32:03.774 --> 04:32:07.110
SAME INFORMATION TO THE D. C. A
04:32:07.177 --> 04:32:08.378
THEREFORE, THIS BILL SIMPLY
04:32:08.445 --> 04:32:11.014
CLOSES THE LOOP BY NOW REQUIRING
04:32:11.081 --> 04:32:12.482
BOTH ENTITIES TO REPORT THIS
04:32:12.549 --> 04:32:13.884
INFORMATION FOR GREATER PUBLIC
04:32:13.950 --> 04:32:15.352
SAFETY AND TRAINING
04:32:15.419 --> 04:32:17.387
OPPORTUNITIES. ADDITIONALLY A B
04:32:17.454 --> 04:32:19.122
25 15 WOULD REQUIRE BATON
04:32:19.189 --> 04:32:21.091
PERMITS TO BE ISSUED DIRECTLY TO
04:32:21.158 --> 04:32:22.426
LICENSES BY THE BUREAU, SECURITY
04:32:22.492 --> 04:32:25.095
INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES. THIS
04:32:25.162 --> 04:32:26.296
BILL WILL ALIGN WITH THE
04:32:26.363 --> 04:32:28.365
ISSUANCE OF THE BATON PERMIT.
04:32:28.432 --> 04:32:31.735
WITH THAT OF THE FIREARMS PERMIT
04:32:31.802 --> 04:32:33.003
, AS WELL AS ALL OTHER BUREAU
04:32:33.070 --> 04:32:36.406
LICENSE TYPES. AS IT RELATES TO
04:32:36.473 --> 04:32:39.509
THE OPPONENTS. UM AND SO WITH
04:32:39.576 --> 04:32:44.081
THAT, I'M GOING TO JUST SAY.
04:32:44.147 --> 04:32:45.348
THAT WE WILL. WE WERE LOOKING
04:32:45.415 --> 04:32:48.852
FORWARD TO ARE MOVING FORWARD
04:32:48.919 --> 04:32:50.487
WITH THIS BILL. WE THINK THAT
04:32:50.554 --> 04:32:52.022
THERE IS SOME VERY IMPORTANT
04:32:52.089 --> 04:32:53.356
ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED
04:32:53.423 --> 04:32:55.826
BY THIS LEGISLATION AND I ASK
04:32:55.892 --> 04:32:57.961
FOR YOUR I VOTE WITH ME TO
04:32:58.028 --> 04:32:58.795
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT KELLI
04:32:58.862 --> 04:33:00.330
JENNSEN, REPRESENTING CAL SAGA
04:33:00.397 --> 04:33:03.900
WITH THAT. I ASKED FOR WOULD YOU
04:33:03.967 --> 04:33:07.637
BE, MR JENSEN? THANK YOU, MR
04:33:07.704 --> 04:33:09.206
CHAIR AND MEMBERS KELLI JENNSEN
04:33:09.272 --> 04:33:12.242
REPRESENTING CAL SAGA WE'VE BEEN
04:33:12.309 --> 04:33:14.411
UM, FORTUNATE TO WORK, MR MR
04:33:14.478 --> 04:33:15.846
HOLDEN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
04:33:15.912 --> 04:33:18.048
ON HIS BILL TO REQUIRE
04:33:18.115 --> 04:33:20.884
PROPRIETARY GUARDS TO, UM,
04:33:20.951 --> 04:33:22.919
REPORT IN TERMS, THIS BILL IS
04:33:22.986 --> 04:33:24.955
IMPORTANT TO UNIFY. PROPRIETARY
04:33:25.021 --> 04:33:27.524
GUARDS AND PROPRIETARY GUARDS SO
04:33:27.591 --> 04:33:29.526
THAT WE KNOW ALL INCIDENCES ARE
04:33:29.593 --> 04:33:30.694
HAPPY HAPPENING OUT THERE. BILL
04:33:30.761 --> 04:33:33.630
ALSO INCLUDES SOME VERY HELPFUL
04:33:33.697 --> 04:33:36.533
CLEANUP LANGUAGE WITH REGARDS TO
04:33:36.600 --> 04:33:39.836
HOSPITALS, SO WE THANK THE
04:33:39.903 --> 04:33:40.637
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AND AUTHOR FOR
04:33:40.704 --> 04:33:42.506
PUTTING THAT IN THERE AND ASK
04:33:42.572 --> 04:33:44.841
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
04:33:44.908 --> 04:33:46.343
YOU. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
04:33:46.409 --> 04:33:48.245
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM 1 12,
04:33:48.311 --> 04:33:49.546
WHICH IS TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
04:33:49.613 --> 04:33:54.818
OF THIS MEASURE. SEE NONE
04:33:54.885 --> 04:33:57.187
OPERATORS. LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
04:33:57.254 --> 04:33:58.922
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S WHEN
04:33:58.989 --> 04:34:03.393
THIS IS IN SUPPORT OF 25 15.
04:34:03.460 --> 04:34:06.129
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 15
04:34:06.196 --> 04:34:07.297
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO THIS
04:34:07.364 --> 04:34:14.538
TIME. AND MR KERRY HAVE KNOWN IN
04:34:14.604 --> 04:34:16.640
CUBA AT THIS TIME. OKAY LET'S
04:34:16.706 --> 04:34:17.774
MOVE TO OPPOSITION. IS THERE
04:34:17.841 --> 04:34:20.477
ANYONE HERE IN ROOM 1 12?
04:34:20.544 --> 04:34:21.511
SOLUTION TO TESTIFY IN
04:34:21.578 --> 04:34:24.748
OPPOSITION OF 25 15. KEENAN,
04:34:24.815 --> 04:34:25.849
MODERATOR, LET'S GO TO THE PHONE
04:34:25.916 --> 04:34:33.089
LINES. AS YOU WERE SPEAKING
04:34:33.156 --> 04:34:35.225
OPPOSITION OVER A B 25 15 PLEASE
04:34:35.292 --> 04:34:43.600
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
04:34:43.667 --> 04:34:45.602
MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
04:34:45.669 --> 04:34:48.405
Q AT THIS TIME. GOT IT. OKAY I'M
04:34:48.471 --> 04:34:49.606
GONNA BRING IT BACK TO MY
04:34:49.673 --> 04:34:51.608
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS
04:34:51.675 --> 04:34:53.343
CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO THIS
04:34:53.410 --> 04:34:57.247
MEASURE. GUESS NOT. UM MR ROLAND
04:34:57.314 --> 04:34:58.415
, HAVE YOU ACCEPTED THE
04:34:58.481 --> 04:34:59.216
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS? YOU OKAY?
04:34:59.282 --> 04:35:04.554
ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A DO PASS
04:35:04.621 --> 04:35:06.656
MOTION AS AMENDED TO
04:35:06.723 --> 04:35:08.491
APPROPRIATIONS. IS THERE A
04:35:08.558 --> 04:35:10.827
MOTION FOR THIS MEASURE? IT'S
04:35:10.894 --> 04:35:11.962
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR ATCO
04:35:12.028 --> 04:35:15.599
BOGUE. COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE
04:35:15.665 --> 04:35:19.569
ROLL ON A B 25 15 MAYBE 25 15
04:35:19.636 --> 04:35:22.005
BRADFORD BRADFORD IACOPO BOGUE.
04:35:22.072 --> 04:35:24.708
OKAY, I KAMLAGER SKINNER. HIæN
04:35:24.774 --> 04:35:29.846
ER I WIENER. ALRIGHT THAT
04:35:29.913 --> 04:35:30.814
MEASURE HAS THREE VOTES WILL
04:35:30.881 --> 04:35:32.015
LEAVE THE WORLD OPEN FOR ABSENT
04:35:32.082 --> 04:35:35.418
MEMBERS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO
04:35:35.485 --> 04:35:40.857
ITEM NUMBER FOUR NUMBER 2026 32.
04:35:40.924 --> 04:35:43.093
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR MEMBERS FOR
04:35:43.159 --> 04:35:44.461
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT 26 30
04:35:44.527 --> 04:35:46.162
26 32, THE CALIFORNIA MANDELA
04:35:46.229 --> 04:35:49.065
ACT ON SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
04:35:49.132 --> 04:35:50.500
DESPITE THE VOLUMES OF RESEARCH
04:35:50.567 --> 04:35:52.002
THAT SHOWS HOW SOLITARY
04:35:52.068 --> 04:35:52.836
CONFINEMENT CAUSES DEEP
04:35:52.903 --> 04:35:54.838
PSYCHOLOGICAL AND PHYSICAL HARM
04:35:54.905 --> 04:35:56.606
, IT REMAINS COMMON IN JAILS,
04:35:56.673 --> 04:35:58.108
PRISONS AND DETENTION FACILITIES
04:35:58.174 --> 04:36:01.678
ACROSS CALIFORNIA. IN FACT, THE
04:36:01.745 --> 04:36:03.213
CURRENT CONSENSUS AMONG MENTAL
04:36:03.280 --> 04:36:05.115
HEALTH EXPERTS, HUMAN RIGHTS
04:36:05.181 --> 04:36:06.816
ORGANIZATIONS AND THE UNITED
04:36:06.883 --> 04:36:08.051
NATIONS IS THAT PROLONGED
04:36:08.118 --> 04:36:09.219
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AMOUNTS TO
04:36:09.286 --> 04:36:12.856
TORTURE. IN 2016, THE NATIONAL
04:36:12.923 --> 04:36:14.391
COMMISSION ON CORRECTIONAL
04:36:14.457 --> 04:36:16.359
HEALTHCARE STATED THAT A PERIOD
04:36:16.426 --> 04:36:17.394
OF CONFINEMENT BEYOND 15
04:36:17.460 --> 04:36:22.132
CONSECUTIVE DAYS. IS INHUMANE,
04:36:22.198 --> 04:36:23.099
DEGRADING TREATMENT AND HARMFUL
04:36:23.166 --> 04:36:25.702
TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S HEALTH. THE
04:36:25.769 --> 04:36:27.070
LACK OF HUMAN CONTACT AND
04:36:27.137 --> 04:36:28.505
ENDLESS MONNING MONOTONY CAUSES
04:36:28.572 --> 04:36:30.907
DEEP DEPRESSION, PARANOIA. AND
04:36:30.974 --> 04:36:34.878
SOME EVEN SUFFER HALLUCINATIONS.
04:36:34.945 --> 04:36:35.712
OTHERS EXPERIENCE LARGE
04:36:35.779 --> 04:36:36.980
FLUCTUATIONS IN WEIGHT AND
04:36:37.047 --> 04:36:38.882
CHRONIC PAIN AND DUE TO ITS
04:36:38.949 --> 04:36:40.383
EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS
04:36:40.450 --> 04:36:41.651
. CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS
04:36:41.718 --> 04:36:42.719
EITHER GO UNTREATED OR ARE
04:36:42.786 --> 04:36:47.490
MISTREATED. MAYBE 26 32 PROVIDES
04:36:47.557 --> 04:36:48.491
A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT
04:36:48.558 --> 04:36:50.026
CONSTITUTES SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
04:36:50.093 --> 04:36:51.161
ACROSS ALL FACILITIES IN
04:36:51.227 --> 04:36:52.295
CALIFORNIA AND IMPOSES LIMITS
04:36:52.362 --> 04:36:55.332
AND HOW IT CAN BE USED.
04:36:55.398 --> 04:36:56.566
ADDITIONALLY THIS BILL WILL
04:36:56.633 --> 04:36:58.001
PROHIBIT THE USE OF SOLITARY
04:36:58.068 --> 04:36:58.969
CONFINEMENT FOR VULNERABLE
04:36:59.035 --> 04:37:01.004
POPULATIONS SUCH AS A PREGNANT
04:37:01.071 --> 04:37:03.406
WOMAN, AND THOSE WERE SERIOUS
04:37:03.473 --> 04:37:03.840
MENTAL AND PHYSICAL
04:37:03.907 --> 04:37:06.576
DISABILITIES. TO STATE THE
04:37:06.643 --> 04:37:07.978
OBVIOUS PEOPLE WHO NEED
04:37:08.044 --> 04:37:09.646
SPECIALIZED CARE SHOULD NOT BE
04:37:09.713 --> 04:37:11.781
LOCKED UP IN A ROOM THE SIZE OF
04:37:11.848 --> 04:37:13.650
THE KING SIZE BED AND WITHOUT
04:37:13.717 --> 04:37:14.751
ACCESS TO THE SERVICES THEY
04:37:14.818 --> 04:37:18.488
NEED. MAYBE 26 32 ALSO PROVIDES
04:37:18.555 --> 04:37:19.522
IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE
04:37:19.589 --> 04:37:21.825
PLACED IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
04:37:21.891 --> 04:37:23.326
AS AN EXAMPLE. CURRENT
04:37:23.393 --> 04:37:24.928
REGULATIONS ALLOW THE USE OF
04:37:24.995 --> 04:37:26.463
FOOD AND NUTRITION AS AN
04:37:26.529 --> 04:37:28.465
ADDITIONAL LEVER OF PUNISHMENT
04:37:28.531 --> 04:37:29.966
FOR CONFINED INDIVIDUALS. THIS
04:37:30.033 --> 04:37:31.601
BILL, THIS ALLOWS THAT MANY
04:37:31.668 --> 04:37:34.971
TIMES WE LIKE TO BOAST THAT AS
04:37:35.038 --> 04:37:37.107
CALIFORNIA GOES, SO GOES THE
04:37:37.173 --> 04:37:38.475
NATION, BUT WE ARE BEHIND AND
04:37:38.541 --> 04:37:39.609
SETTING CLEAR STANDARDS ON THE
04:37:39.676 --> 04:37:41.845
USE OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
04:37:41.911 --> 04:37:43.146
SEVERAL STATES, INCLUDING NEW
04:37:43.213 --> 04:37:45.115
YORK AND COLORADO, HAVE ALREADY
04:37:45.181 --> 04:37:46.483
TAKEN THIS CRITICAL STEP.
04:37:46.549 --> 04:37:47.817
CALIFORNIA MUST JOIN THESE
04:37:47.884 --> 04:37:50.086
STATES AND THE INTERNATIONAL
04:37:50.153 --> 04:37:51.755
COMMUNITY TO SET CLEAR STANDARDS
04:37:51.821 --> 04:37:53.523
AND LIMITS ON THE USE OF
04:37:53.590 --> 04:37:55.592
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. DISC
04:37:55.658 --> 04:37:57.594
BEGINS BY RECOGNIZING THAT
04:37:57.661 --> 04:37:59.095
PROLONGED SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
04:37:59.162 --> 04:38:01.965
IS TORTURE AND SETTING UNIFORM
04:38:02.032 --> 04:38:03.066
AND CONSISTENT LIMITS ON HOW
04:38:03.133 --> 04:38:05.068
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IS USED.
04:38:05.135 --> 04:38:06.669
HERE WITH ME TO TESTIFY AND
04:38:06.736 --> 04:38:10.473
SUPPORT OF A B 26 32 IS SBAN
04:38:10.540 --> 04:38:12.075
WITH DISABILITY RIGHTS
04:38:12.142 --> 04:38:13.543
CALIFORNIA AND VANESSA RAMOS,
04:38:13.610 --> 04:38:14.878
WHO WILL SPEAK ON THE IMPACT
04:38:14.944 --> 04:38:15.879
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT HAS HAD ON
04:38:15.945 --> 04:38:17.547
HER LIFE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
04:38:17.614 --> 04:38:22.619
YOUR VOTE. WE HAVE HERE GOING,
04:38:22.685 --> 04:38:25.188
BEN. OKAY YOU MAY HAVE TWO
04:38:25.255 --> 04:38:26.122
MINUTES TO BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY.
04:38:26.189 --> 04:38:27.257
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
04:38:27.323 --> 04:38:29.826
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
04:38:29.893 --> 04:38:31.428
SðNG BAND AND MY COLLEAGUE OF
04:38:31.494 --> 04:38:33.596
AIR CARRIERS. HE'S TAKING CARE
04:38:33.663 --> 04:38:35.965
OF THE CARE COURTS MATTER RIGHT
04:38:36.032 --> 04:38:36.699
NOW, SO I APOLOGIZE. I MAKE
04:38:36.766 --> 04:38:38.368
THESE STATEMENTS ON BEHALF OF
04:38:38.435 --> 04:38:40.437
THEIR CARERS WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR
04:38:40.503 --> 04:38:41.071
OF PUBLIC POLICY AND DISABILITY
04:38:41.137 --> 04:38:41.938
RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA? WE'RE
04:38:42.005 --> 04:38:43.940
STATEWIDE NONPROFIT PROTECTION
04:38:44.007 --> 04:38:45.575
AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT
04:38:45.642 --> 04:38:47.510
ADVOCATES ON BEHALF OF ALL
04:38:47.577 --> 04:38:49.112
PEOPLE, DISABILITIES IN THE
04:38:49.179 --> 04:38:50.580
STATE. WE ARE PART OF A
04:38:50.647 --> 04:38:52.415
COALITION OF PROUD COSPONSORS OF
04:38:52.482 --> 04:38:56.386
A B 26 32. WE WORK IN JAILS,
04:38:56.453 --> 04:38:57.420
JUVENILE FACILITIES AND
04:38:57.487 --> 04:38:58.988
DETENTION CENTERS TO IMPROVE
04:38:59.055 --> 04:39:00.056
CONDITIONS, ELIMINATE
04:39:00.123 --> 04:39:01.925
UNNECESSARY ISOLATION AND
04:39:01.991 --> 04:39:04.260
SEGREGATION AND SECURE ADEQUATE
04:39:04.327 --> 04:39:05.295
MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
04:39:05.361 --> 04:39:06.763
TREATMENT FOR THOSE INCARCERATED
04:39:06.830 --> 04:39:10.834
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IS TORTURE.
04:39:10.900 --> 04:39:12.368
IN A PRIORITY ISSUE FOR DRC
04:39:12.435 --> 04:39:13.403
BECAUSE IT'S HARMFUL IMPACT ON
04:39:13.470 --> 04:39:16.606
DISABLED PEOPLE. WHO HAS A GROUP
04:39:16.673 --> 04:39:17.607
OR DISPROPORTIONATELY SUBJECT TO
04:39:17.674 --> 04:39:21.377
ITS USE. WE'VE LITIGATED, OBTAIN
04:39:21.444 --> 04:39:22.445
CONSENT DECREES WITH JAILS AND
04:39:22.512 --> 04:39:24.047
NEGOTIATED WITH IMMIGRATION
04:39:24.114 --> 04:39:26.015
DETENTION OPERATORS TO LIMIT ITS
04:39:26.082 --> 04:39:28.418
USE. MOST RECENTLY WE SERVED AN
04:39:28.485 --> 04:39:30.120
EXECUTIVE STEERING COMMITTEE AND
04:39:30.186 --> 04:39:31.287
WORKING GROUPS OF THE BOARD AND
04:39:31.354 --> 04:39:32.522
STATE COMMITTEE. COMMUNITY
04:39:32.589 --> 04:39:34.491
CORRECTIONS FOR THE TITLE. 15
04:39:34.557 --> 04:39:36.659
JAIL REGULATIONS, REVISIONS TO
04:39:36.726 --> 04:39:38.561
LIMIT SOLITARY CONFINEMENT BUT
04:39:38.628 --> 04:39:40.063
WE WERE UNABLE TO GET THE
04:39:40.130 --> 04:39:41.364
NECESSARY REFORMS THROUGH THAT
04:39:41.431 --> 04:39:44.834
PROCESS. WE HAVE CONCLUDED THAT
04:39:44.901 --> 04:39:46.970
CALIFORNIA NEEDS A STATEWIDE
04:39:47.036 --> 04:39:48.505
COMPREHENSIVE LEGISLATIVE
04:39:48.571 --> 04:39:50.106
SOLUTION TO END THE SOLITARY
04:39:50.173 --> 04:39:51.040
CONFINEMENT OF PEOPLE,
04:39:51.107 --> 04:39:52.575
DISABILITIES IN JAILS, PRISONS
04:39:52.642 --> 04:39:53.409
AND IMMIGRATION DETENTION
04:39:53.476 --> 04:39:56.346
FACILITIES. SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
04:39:56.412 --> 04:39:57.247
OF PRACTICE THAT IS NOT
04:39:57.313 --> 04:40:01.017
REHABILITATE. BUT CAUSES HARM,
04:40:01.084 --> 04:40:03.386
ESPECIALLY THE END OF VULNERABLE
04:40:03.453 --> 04:40:05.021
POPULATIONS. SOLITARY
04:40:05.088 --> 04:40:06.122
CONFINEMENT IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE
04:40:06.189 --> 04:40:07.357
TOOL TO MANAGE VIOLENCE AND
04:40:07.423 --> 04:40:09.259
CORPORAL SETTINGS RATHER
04:40:09.325 --> 04:40:11.661
EXAGGERATES THESE ISSUES.
04:40:11.728 --> 04:40:13.096
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT SOLITARY
04:40:13.163 --> 04:40:14.597
CONFINEMENT IS THAT MAKE PRISONS
04:40:14.664 --> 04:40:16.432
OR JAILS SAFER, NOR DOES IT
04:40:16.499 --> 04:40:17.600
IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES
04:40:17.667 --> 04:40:18.635
BECAUSE EXPOSURE TO SOLITARY
04:40:18.701 --> 04:40:20.870
CONFINEMENT BEEN PROVEN. TO
04:40:20.937 --> 04:40:22.972
INCREASE RECIDIVISM. IN SOME
04:40:23.039 --> 04:40:25.375
CASES. THE CO SPONSOR OF THIS
04:40:25.441 --> 04:40:26.376
BILL ALSO VIEWS SOLITARY
04:40:26.442 --> 04:40:27.377
CONFINEMENT OF RACIAL JUSTICE
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ISSUE. IT'S A RACIAL JUSTICE
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ISSUE BECAUSE IT IMPACTS BLACK
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AND BROWNS MORE. SOLITARY
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CONFINEMENT MOST OFTEN USED
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AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR. UH,
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AGAINST BLACK AND LATIN. NEXT
04:40:37.353 --> 04:40:40.056
PEOPLE. AND THE STATISTICS
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RELEASE. THE STATISTICS ARE NOT
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RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. BUT
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RESEARCHERS ESTIMATED BETWEEN 80
04:40:46.062 --> 04:40:47.797
85 TO 90% OF PEOPLE IN SOLITARY
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CONFINEMENT ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
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WE NEED A B 26 32. BUILD IT
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WOULD DO. THESE THINGS, ONE
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ADVANCED SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
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FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, SUCH
04:40:59.008 --> 04:41:00.510
AS INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES
04:41:00.577 --> 04:41:01.578
, PREGNANT WOMEN AND YOUTH AND
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ELDERLY. I DON'T KNOW WHY THESE
04:41:05.882 --> 04:41:07.483
POPULATIONS ARE EVEN IN SOLITARY
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CONFINEMENT. WE ARE AS A SOCIETY
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BETTER THAN THAT. WE SHOULDN'T
04:41:11.688 --> 04:41:12.622
HAVE PREGNANT PEOPLE, PEOPLE
04:41:12.689 --> 04:41:14.157
DISABILITIES. FOR FOLKS WHO ARE
04:41:14.224 --> 04:41:17.126
SENIORS IN THESE CONDITIONS. IT
04:41:17.193 --> 04:41:18.595
PROHIBITS LONG TERM SOLITARY
04:41:18.661 --> 04:41:20.129
SEGREGATE CONFINEMENT BY LIVING
04:41:20.196 --> 04:41:21.297
AT TIMES SPENDING CONFINEMENT
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NOT TO NOT MORE THAN 15
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CONSECUTIVE DAYS OR 20 DAYS OF
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TOTAL AND 60 DAY PERIOD. REQUIRE
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FACILITIES TO KEEP CLEAR RECORDS
04:41:30.039 --> 04:41:30.740
OF THESE USE OF SOLITARY
04:41:30.807 --> 04:41:31.841
CONFINEMENT IN ORDER, PROVIDE
04:41:31.908 --> 04:41:33.176
PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY AND
04:41:33.243 --> 04:41:34.444
ACCOUNTABILITIES. THESE ARE
04:41:34.510 --> 04:41:35.612
TAXPAYERS DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING
04:41:35.678 --> 04:41:38.648
USED. SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS
04:41:38.715 --> 04:41:40.950
MR CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS URGE
04:41:41.017 --> 04:41:42.919
YOU AND I VOTE FOR A B 26 32
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WITH THAT I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER
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TO OUR MY COLLEAGUE. THANK YOU.
04:41:46.022 --> 04:41:48.157
SO DO YOU HAVE A NECESSARY RAMOS
04:41:48.224 --> 04:41:49.626
HERE? THE TRAUMAS YOU HAVE TWO
04:41:49.692 --> 04:41:59.035
MINUTES. UM, HI. UM BEFORE I
04:41:59.102 --> 04:42:02.205
START I HAVE A DISABILITIES, SO
04:42:02.272 --> 04:42:04.774
I MAY NEED EXTRA TIME. BUT WE
04:42:04.841 --> 04:42:06.876
TIMED IT AND I THINK WE GOT IT
04:42:06.943 --> 04:42:09.112
DOWN. SO OKAY. MY TIME STARTS
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NOW, PLEASE. COULD GOOD
04:42:12.582 --> 04:42:13.516
AFTERNOON NOW CHAIR AND
04:42:13.583 --> 04:42:16.552
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. A MEMBER OF
04:42:16.619 --> 04:42:17.954
HOLDEN FOR BRINGING THE BILL
04:42:18.021 --> 04:42:20.423
FORWARD. THANK YOU, FRANKLIN. MY
04:42:20.490 --> 04:42:22.825
NAME IS VANESSA RAMOS. I PROUDLY
04:42:22.892 --> 04:42:24.427
SERVE ON DISABILITY RIGHTS,
04:42:24.494 --> 04:42:27.864
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC POLICY TEAM.
04:42:27.930 --> 04:42:29.932
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE
04:42:29.999 --> 04:42:32.068
REASONS I URGE YOUR YES. VOTE
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FOR A B 26 32. AT 21 MOSES YOUTH
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ARE IN COLLEGE. I WAS MET BY A
04:42:41.544 --> 04:42:43.579
FAILED YEAH. COUNTY MENTAL
04:42:43.646 --> 04:42:45.615
HEALTH SYSTEM TO SURVIVE BEING
04:42:45.682 --> 04:42:49.852
UNHAPPY, HOUSED AND UNTREATED.
04:42:49.919 --> 04:42:55.358
PARTICIPATED CARS. LIFE BECAME
04:42:55.425 --> 04:42:56.592
EVEN MORE HORRENDOUS AFTER I
04:42:56.659 --> 04:43:00.229
GAVE BIRTH. I WAS SENTENCED TO A
04:43:00.296 --> 04:43:01.898
YEAR AND A HALF IN THE COUNTY
04:43:01.964 --> 04:43:03.833
JAIL, WHERE HE SPENT TIME IN
04:43:03.900 --> 04:43:05.601
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WHILE
04:43:05.668 --> 04:43:06.102
EXPERIENCING POSTPARTUM
04:43:06.169 --> 04:43:09.839
DEPRESSION. THE ONSET OF MY
04:43:09.906 --> 04:43:11.808
DISABLING CONDITIONS AND
04:43:11.874 --> 04:43:14.744
SUBSTANCE YOUTH WITHDRAW WHILE
04:43:14.811 --> 04:43:17.113
BEING SHACKLED AND LIKE HUFFED
04:43:17.180 --> 04:43:18.614
TO AND FROM A SOLITARY
04:43:18.681 --> 04:43:20.883
CONFINEMENT ITSELF WITHOUT
04:43:20.950 --> 04:43:21.951
MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
04:43:22.018 --> 04:43:23.886
SERVICES. I KEPT MY MIND BUSY.
04:43:23.953 --> 04:43:26.889
BY USING A STRING OF MY UNIFORM
04:43:26.956 --> 04:43:28.224
TO THREAD MY EYEBROWS FOR WHICH
04:43:28.291 --> 04:43:32.028
I WAS PUNISHED. WITH LONGER
04:43:32.095 --> 04:43:34.397
STAYS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
04:43:34.464 --> 04:43:36.499
FOR DESTROYING PROPERTY. I WAS
04:43:36.566 --> 04:43:38.201
FURTHER TRAUMATIZED BY BEING
04:43:38.267 --> 04:43:39.502
MOVED FROM ISOLATION TO THE
04:43:39.569 --> 04:43:44.006
CHAOS OF GENERAL JAIL POPULATION
04:43:44.073 --> 04:43:45.641
, THE ANXIETY OF NOT KNOWING
04:43:45.708 --> 04:43:47.910
WHERE OR HOW MY BABY WAS DOING
04:43:47.977 --> 04:43:49.612
CREATED FEELINGS OF RAGE AND
04:43:49.679 --> 04:43:50.613
TRIGGERED A NEED TO
04:43:50.680 --> 04:43:53.649
DISASSOCIATE. I WAS CAUGHT IN
04:43:53.716 --> 04:43:56.386
THIS TERRIBLE AND INHUMANE CYCLE
04:43:56.452 --> 04:43:58.888
AT THE PERSON WITH THE SERIOUS
04:43:58.955 --> 04:44:00.990
MENTAL HEALTH DISABILITY. MY
04:44:01.057 --> 04:44:03.059
EXPERIENCE IS NOT UNIQUE.
04:44:03.126 --> 04:44:04.894
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT PEOPLE WITH
04:44:04.961 --> 04:44:07.130
MENTAL HEALTH DISABILITIES ARE
04:44:07.196 --> 04:44:08.431
10 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE
04:44:08.498 --> 04:44:11.000
INCARCERATED. THAN THEY ARE
04:44:11.067 --> 04:44:13.302
HOSPITALIZED IN THE U. S AND
04:44:13.369 --> 04:44:16.305
MORE THAN 70% OF PEOPLE IN
04:44:16.372 --> 04:44:17.540
AMERICAN JAILS IN PRISONS HAVE
04:44:17.607 --> 04:44:20.943
AT LEAST ONE DISABILITY. NOT
04:44:21.010 --> 04:44:24.380
ONLY IS THIS A CARCEL ISSUE BUT
04:44:24.447 --> 04:44:27.116
THIS IS A RACIAL JUSTICE ISSUE
04:44:27.183 --> 04:44:28.951
AS WELL BECAUSE IT
04:44:29.018 --> 04:44:30.386
OVERWHELMINGLY AFFECTS BLACK AND
04:44:30.453 --> 04:44:33.322
BROWN PEOPLE, EFFECTIVE EVIDENCE
04:44:33.389 --> 04:44:34.223
BASED RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
04:44:34.290 --> 04:44:37.393
PROGRAMMING THAT CAN BE USED AS
04:44:37.460 --> 04:44:38.895
AN ALTERNATIVE TO SOLITARY
04:44:38.961 --> 04:44:41.764
CONFINEMENT CAN INCLUDE PEER LED
04:44:41.831 --> 04:44:42.732
YOGA, MINDFULNESS AND NONVIOLENT
04:44:42.799 --> 04:44:47.103
COMMUNICATION. IF WE ARE SERIOUS
04:44:47.170 --> 04:44:48.971
ABOUT REHABILITATION, WE WILL
04:44:49.038 --> 04:44:51.007
GET SERIOUS ABOUT THE NEGATIVE
04:44:51.073 --> 04:44:53.376
EFFECTS OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
04:44:53.443 --> 04:44:54.777
, WHICH THE NATIONAL COMMISSION
04:44:54.844 --> 04:44:56.879
ON CORRECTIONAL HEALTH CARE.
04:44:56.946 --> 04:44:59.882
DESCRIBES AS INHUMANE, DEGRADING
04:44:59.949 --> 04:45:02.318
TREATMENT AND HARMFUL TO
04:45:02.385 --> 04:45:04.020
INDIVIDUALS. HEALTH FOR ALL
04:45:04.086 --> 04:45:06.889
THESE REASONS, I URGE YOUR YES
04:45:06.956 --> 04:45:11.427
VOTE FOR A B 26 32. THANK YOU.
04:45:11.494 --> 04:45:13.062
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
04:45:13.129 --> 04:45:14.997
NOW WE'LL GO TO THE REST OF OUR
04:45:15.064 --> 04:45:16.833
MEMBERS HERE WHO WISH TO TESTIFY
04:45:16.899 --> 04:45:22.371
AND SUPPORT OF A B 26 32. CARE
04:45:22.438 --> 04:45:23.906
AND MEMBERS. ALEJANDRA DURANGO
04:45:23.973 --> 04:45:25.441
PRESIDING NEXT IN CALIFORNIA,
04:45:25.508 --> 04:45:27.043
PROUD OF CO SPONSORS OF THIS
04:45:27.109 --> 04:45:28.311
BILL, URGING YOUR SUPPORT. THANK
04:45:28.377 --> 04:45:32.114
YOU. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
04:45:32.181 --> 04:45:34.484
JACKIE GONZALEZ, POLICY DIRECTOR
04:45:34.550 --> 04:45:35.985
FOR IMMIGRANT DEFENSE ADVOCATES
04:45:36.052 --> 04:45:37.487
. PROTOCOL SPONSOR OF THIS BILL
04:45:37.553 --> 04:45:38.721
, ALSO HERE FOR INDIVISIBLE
04:45:38.788 --> 04:45:39.755
CALIFORNIA STATE STRONG THANK
04:45:39.822 --> 04:45:44.961
YOU. THANK YOU. BRED WORMS. TH<c.cyan></c>
04:45:45.027 --> 04:45:46.629
KALE, ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK
04:45:46.696 --> 04:45:51.367
YOU. MARGO MENDELSSOHN PRISON
04:45:51.434 --> 04:45:52.602
LAW OFFICE, PROUD CO SPONSOR AND
04:45:52.668 --> 04:45:55.872
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
04:45:55.938 --> 04:45:57.273
AFTERNOON, MELISSA O'CONNELL
04:45:57.340 --> 04:45:58.207
FROM THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
04:45:58.274 --> 04:45:59.642
INNOCENCE PROJECT AND ALSO ON
04:45:59.709 --> 04:46:01.444
BEHALF OF THE LOYOLA PROJECT FOR
04:46:01.511 --> 04:46:03.212
THE INNOCENT IN STRONG SUPPORT.
04:46:03.279 --> 04:46:07.750
THANK YOU. VANESSA MASINDI,
04:46:07.817 --> 04:46:08.317
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
04:46:08.384 --> 04:46:08.851
INNOCENCE PROJECT, STRONG
04:46:08.918 --> 04:46:12.922
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
04:46:12.989 --> 04:46:14.090
AFTERNOON. GREGORY. FIDEL WITH
04:46:14.156 --> 04:46:15.558
INITIATE JUSTICE, PROUD,
04:46:15.625 --> 04:46:17.360
COSPONSOR STRONG SUPPORT, ALSO
04:46:17.426 --> 04:46:18.728
LISTING SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
04:46:18.794 --> 04:46:20.763
SMART JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA AS
04:46:20.830 --> 04:46:22.832
WELL AS 517 CURRENTLY
04:46:22.899 --> 04:46:24.033
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS WHO
04:46:24.100 --> 04:46:25.067
SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT
04:46:25.134 --> 04:46:26.869
FOR THIS BILL TO THIS COMMITTEE.
04:46:26.936 --> 04:46:31.741
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
04:46:31.807 --> 04:46:32.775
AFTERNOON, EMILY HARRIS OF THE
04:46:32.842 --> 04:46:34.143
ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
04:46:34.210 --> 04:46:35.645
RIGHTS AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU
04:46:35.711 --> 04:46:37.313
SEEING NO MORE WITNESSES HERE IN
04:46:37.380 --> 04:46:39.181
ROOM 1, 12 MODERATOR, LET'S GO
04:46:39.248 --> 04:46:41.350
TO OUR PHONE LINES AND SHIFTERS
04:46:41.417 --> 04:46:41.951
WITNESSES DESIRES. TESTIFY IN
04:46:42.018 --> 04:46:46.756
SUPPORT OF 26 32. ACTUALLY, SHE
04:46:46.822 --> 04:46:51.394
SPEAKS PART OF 26 32, PLEASE
04:46:51.460 --> 04:46:53.162
PRESS 1 TO 0. WE'RE GONNA LINE
04:46:53.229 --> 04:46:57.867
TO 32. PLEASE GO AHEAD. LESLIE
04:46:57.934 --> 04:46:59.535
CALDWELL, HOUSTON FOR THE
04:46:59.602 --> 04:47:00.903
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
04:47:00.970 --> 04:47:01.871
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
04:47:01.938 --> 04:47:07.710
YOU. PLANE TO 27. PLEASE GO
04:47:07.777 --> 04:47:11.747
AHEAD. FROM BECKY GONZALEZ
04:47:11.814 --> 04:47:12.715
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
04:47:12.782 --> 04:47:13.749
WORKERS, CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
04:47:13.816 --> 04:47:20.456
SUPPORT. FIND 2 52, PLEASE GO
04:47:20.523 --> 04:47:25.461
AHEAD. DEFINITELY SHARE AND
04:47:25.528 --> 04:47:27.096
MEMBERS HAD LITTLE WITH
04:47:27.163 --> 04:47:28.097
CALIFORNIA'S FOR SAFETY AND
04:47:28.164 --> 04:47:33.102
JUSTICE AND STRONG SUPPORT. FIND
04:47:33.169 --> 04:47:36.806
2 41, PLEASE GO AHEAD. JIM
04:47:36.872 --> 04:47:38.374
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
04:47:38.441 --> 04:47:40.476
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
04:47:40.543 --> 04:47:41.410
IN CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
04:47:41.477 --> 04:47:45.781
SUPPORT. FLYING TO 50. PLEASE GO
04:47:45.848 --> 04:47:59.495
AHEAD.
04:47:59.562 --> 04:48:00.763
HE WENT TO 50 YEAR LINE IS
04:48:00.830 --> 04:48:08.004
OPENED. PLEASE GO AHEAD. DON'T
04:48:08.070 --> 04:48:11.407
GO TO LINE 2 51, PLEASE GO AHEAD
04:48:11.474 --> 04:48:12.475
WITH THE JUSTICE GROUPS AND
04:48:12.541 --> 04:48:19.649
SUPPORT. AND MR KERRY HAVE NO
04:48:19.715 --> 04:48:21.183
ONE ELSE IN CUBA AT THIS TIME.
04:48:21.250 --> 04:48:22.718
OKAY NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO
04:48:22.785 --> 04:48:23.586
OPPOSITION. WE'RE GOING TO
04:48:23.653 --> 04:48:24.353
AFFORD OUR WITNESSES. SAME
04:48:24.420 --> 04:48:25.821
OPPORTUNITY IN OPPOSITION. I
04:48:25.888 --> 04:48:30.226
HEAR WE HAVE JULIO DELEON. AND
04:48:30.292 --> 04:48:30.826
WE HAVE COREY SELF. ZILLOW IS
04:48:30.893 --> 04:48:34.063
JULIO HERE. IT'S NOT KOREAN. UH
04:48:34.130 --> 04:48:40.469
HUH. OKAY COREY, YOU CAN GO
04:48:40.536 --> 04:48:42.004
RIGHT AT YOUR THERE. YOU HAVE
04:48:42.071 --> 04:48:43.406
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR
04:48:43.472 --> 04:48:44.907
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, COREY CELLS
04:48:44.974 --> 04:48:45.574
ALONE BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA STATE
04:48:45.641 --> 04:48:46.208
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY
04:48:46.275 --> 04:48:49.278
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. AS A
04:48:49.345 --> 04:48:50.146
GENERAL MATTER. WE'RE VERY
04:48:50.212 --> 04:48:51.380
CONCERNEDABOUT IMPOSING THESE
04:48:51.447 --> 04:48:53.282
SIGNIFICANT MANDATES AND STATUTE
04:48:53.349 --> 04:48:54.650
, CENTRAL ROLE OF THE BORDER,
04:48:54.717 --> 04:48:55.851
STATE AND COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
04:48:55.918 --> 04:48:57.420
IS TO SET MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR
04:48:57.486 --> 04:48:59.622
CUSTODIAL FACILITIES, ADOPTING
04:48:59.689 --> 04:49:00.523
AND REVISING THESE MINIMUM
04:49:00.589 --> 04:49:02.324
STANDARDS AS AN ONGOING PROCESS.
04:49:02.391 --> 04:49:03.793
THAT INVOLVES STAKEHOLDERS FROM
04:49:03.859 --> 04:49:05.194
ALL PERSPECTIVES AND ALLOWS FOR
04:49:05.261 --> 04:49:06.896
EVOLUTION AND REFINEMENT OF
04:49:06.962 --> 04:49:08.130
REQUIREMENTS AND PROCESSES
04:49:08.197 --> 04:49:09.465
WITHOUT THE BURDEN OF HAVING TO
04:49:09.532 --> 04:49:10.433
MEN'S STATUTE EVERY TIME IT
04:49:10.499 --> 04:49:13.169
CHANGES NEEDED. THE B S, C C AND
04:49:13.235 --> 04:49:14.303
THE PRACTITIONERS WHO ARE
04:49:14.370 --> 04:49:15.805
RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPERVISION,
04:49:15.871 --> 04:49:17.406
HOUSING AND REHABILITATION,
04:49:17.473 --> 04:49:18.774
INCARCERATED PERSONS ARE BEST
04:49:18.841 --> 04:49:20.276
SITUATED TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT
04:49:20.342 --> 04:49:22.411
BEST PRACTICES AND FACILITY
04:49:22.478 --> 04:49:24.213
STANDARDS. AS THE PROPONENTS
04:49:24.280 --> 04:49:25.314
NOTED, THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN
04:49:25.381 --> 04:49:26.382
DISCUSSED SEVERAL TIMES. BY
04:49:26.449 --> 04:49:27.783
STAKEHOLDERS ON ALL SIDES AND
04:49:27.850 --> 04:49:30.519
FORMAL REGULATORY SETTING. THE
04:49:30.586 --> 04:49:31.620
OUTCOME WAS UNACCEPTABLE, SO
04:49:31.687 --> 04:49:32.822
THEY ASKED THE LEGISLATURE TO
04:49:32.888 --> 04:49:35.257
STEP IN. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE
04:49:35.324 --> 04:49:35.858
RESTRICTION OF THE BILL WILL
04:49:35.925 --> 04:49:37.126
PRECLUDE MANY OFFENDERS FROM
04:49:37.193 --> 04:49:38.661
BEING CONFINED IN A WAY THAT
04:49:38.728 --> 04:49:39.962
MEETS THE BILLS DEFINITIONS THE
04:49:40.029 --> 04:49:41.664
TERM SPECIAL POPULATION, WHICH
04:49:41.731 --> 04:49:44.233
IS THE TRIGGER FOR MANY OF THE
04:49:44.300 --> 04:49:45.301
RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF
04:49:45.367 --> 04:49:46.268
SEGREGATED CONFINEMENT. INCLUDES
04:49:46.335 --> 04:49:47.903
PERSONS UNDER 26 YEARS OF AGE OR
04:49:47.970 --> 04:49:50.306
OLDER THAN 59, OR HER PREGNANT
04:49:50.372 --> 04:49:52.141
OR IN THE FIRST EIGHT WEEKS OF
04:49:52.208 --> 04:49:53.242
POSTPARTUM RECOVERY. BEYOND
04:49:53.309 --> 04:49:55.077
THAT, THE BILLS, ADDITIONAL
04:49:55.144 --> 04:49:55.611
RESTRICTIONS AND REPORTING
04:49:55.678 --> 04:49:56.212
REQUIREMENTS WILL PRACTICALLY
04:49:56.278 --> 04:49:57.780
ELIMINATE ANY USE OF SEGREGATED
04:49:57.847 --> 04:49:59.248
CONFINEMENT, INCLUDING WHEN SUCH
04:49:59.315 --> 04:50:01.317
PLACEMENT IS NECESSARY FOR THE
04:50:01.383 --> 04:50:02.451
SAFETY OF INDIVIDUAL INMATES OR
04:50:02.518 --> 04:50:04.587
THE FACILITY. THIS BILL WILL
04:50:04.653 --> 04:50:06.522
LIKELY RESULT IN PLACEMENTS ARE
04:50:06.589 --> 04:50:07.823
LESS SAFE TO OTHER INMATES AND
04:50:07.890 --> 04:50:09.024
STAFF AND COMPLICATES ALL
04:50:09.091 --> 04:50:11.160
CLASSIFICATION DECISIONS THAT
04:50:11.227 --> 04:50:12.695
ARE MADE WHEN DECIDING HOW TO
04:50:12.762 --> 04:50:14.230
BEST USE CUSTODIAL RESOURCES. SO
04:50:14.296 --> 04:50:16.098
FOR THESE REASONS, WE MUST
04:50:16.165 --> 04:50:17.099
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO THANK
04:50:17.166 --> 04:50:22.738
YOU. QUÊ NOW WE'RE LOOKING OKAY?
04:50:22.805 --> 04:50:25.407
BYE, SIR. I'M LIEUTENANT ALYSSA
04:50:25.474 --> 04:50:26.442
BERNAL HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
04:50:26.509 --> 04:50:27.476
RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
04:50:27.543 --> 04:50:28.411
DEPARTMENT AND SHERIFF CHAD
04:50:28.477 --> 04:50:31.080
BIANCO. WERE IN OPPOSITION TO
04:50:31.147 --> 04:50:32.548
THIS BILL. WHILE WE ABSOLUTELY
04:50:32.615 --> 04:50:34.984
BELIEVE THE BILL IS WELL
04:50:35.050 --> 04:50:35.684
INTENTIONED, WE FIND IT
04:50:35.751 --> 04:50:37.086
DANGEROUS TO THE VERY PEOPLE
04:50:37.153 --> 04:50:38.220
THAT IT SEEKS TO PROTECT.
04:50:38.287 --> 04:50:39.054
EARLIER THIS MONTH, AN
04:50:39.121 --> 04:50:40.122
INDIVIDUAL'S BOOKED INTO A
04:50:40.189 --> 04:50:42.758
RIVERSIDE COUNTY JAIL. AFTER
04:50:42.825 --> 04:50:44.326
RECEIVING MEDICAL AND MENTAL
04:50:44.393 --> 04:50:45.961
HEALTH EVALUATIONS. THEY WERE
04:50:46.028 --> 04:50:47.630
ASSESSED FOR HOUSING AND PLACED
04:50:47.696 --> 04:50:49.431
IN A TWO MAN CELL IMMEDIATELY
04:50:49.498 --> 04:50:51.700
UPON ENTERING THE CELL. THE
04:50:51.767 --> 04:50:52.701
INDIVIDUAL ATTEMPTED TO STRANGLE
04:50:52.768 --> 04:50:54.003
THEIR CELL MATE. WHO WAS MERELY
04:50:54.069 --> 04:50:55.771
SITTING AT THE DESK, WRITING A
04:50:55.838 --> 04:50:57.439
LETTER. THANKFULLY, IN THIS
04:50:57.506 --> 04:50:59.175
CASE, THE VICTIM WAS ABLE TO
04:50:59.241 --> 04:51:01.177
FIGHT THEM OFF. THE AGGRESSOR
04:51:01.243 --> 04:51:03.345
WAS REMOVED, REASSESSED AND
04:51:03.412 --> 04:51:05.014
EVENTUALLY RE HOUSED, WHERE THEY
04:51:05.080 --> 04:51:06.382
AGAIN TEMPTED, ATTEMPTED TO
04:51:06.448 --> 04:51:08.350
STRANGLE ANOTHER INCARCERATED
04:51:08.417 --> 04:51:10.452
PERSON. THIS IS NOT A ONE OFF
04:51:10.519 --> 04:51:11.887
EVENT. THESE TYPES OF
04:51:11.954 --> 04:51:13.522
INDIVIDUALS EXIST IN OUR CUSTODY
04:51:13.589 --> 04:51:15.257
THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE
04:51:15.324 --> 04:51:17.092
NATION. LAST YEAR, AN INDIVIDUAL
04:51:17.159 --> 04:51:19.061
WAS BOOKED INTO CUSTODY FOR A
04:51:19.128 --> 04:51:20.262
SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT THEY
04:51:20.329 --> 04:51:21.330
COMMITTED WHILE THEY WERE IN
04:51:21.397 --> 04:51:23.566
STATE PRISON. IN AN ATTEMPT TO
04:51:23.632 --> 04:51:25.000
MINIMIZE THE USE OF
04:51:25.067 --> 04:51:26.635
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING. THEY
04:51:26.702 --> 04:51:29.138
WERE PLACED IN A 64 MAN, OPEN
04:51:29.205 --> 04:51:31.040
BARRACKS STYLE DAYROOM. DESPITE
04:51:31.106 --> 04:51:32.374
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PRESENT,
04:51:32.441 --> 04:51:34.009
THE INDIVIDUAL ATTEMPTED TO
04:51:34.076 --> 04:51:34.977
FORCIBLY SODOMIZED ANOTHER
04:51:35.044 --> 04:51:38.147
INCARCERATED PERSON. WHEN THEY
04:51:38.214 --> 04:51:39.348
WERE UNABLE TO DO SO. THEY
04:51:39.415 --> 04:51:41.150
INSTEAD STRANGLED THE VICTIM TO
04:51:41.217 --> 04:51:43.819
DEATH. WHERE THE 62 WITNESSES IN
04:51:43.886 --> 04:51:45.821
THE ROOM WHO DID NOTHING TO STOP
04:51:45.888 --> 04:51:46.956
THIS VIOLENCE FROM OCCURRING.
04:51:47.022 --> 04:51:48.224
WHILE CORRECTION. AUTHORITIES
04:51:48.290 --> 04:51:49.725
MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO SAFEGUARD
04:51:49.792 --> 04:51:51.460
THE LIVES IN THEIR CARE. THEY
04:51:51.527 --> 04:51:53.729
CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL
04:51:53.796 --> 04:51:54.496
TIMES. WE USE ADMINISTRATIVE
04:51:54.563 --> 04:51:55.698
HOUSING TO HELP US SAVE LIVES
04:51:55.764 --> 04:51:57.566
AND PREVENT VICTIMIZATION OF THE
04:51:57.633 --> 04:52:01.470
VULNERABLE. A B 26 32 IS A ONE
04:52:01.537 --> 04:52:03.572
SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH THAT DOES
04:52:03.639 --> 04:52:04.807
NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEEDS
04:52:04.874 --> 04:52:06.842
OF ALL INCARCERATED PERSONS. IT
04:52:06.909 --> 04:52:08.110
INSTEAD LIMITS USE OF
04:52:08.177 --> 04:52:08.911
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING, DESPITE
04:52:08.978 --> 04:52:10.012
THE PROTECTIONS THAT IT CAN
04:52:10.079 --> 04:52:13.482
PROVIDE. ALSO IT DOESN'T ALLOW
04:52:13.549 --> 04:52:15.017
THIS HOUSING TO BE USED FOR
04:52:15.084 --> 04:52:16.518
CERTAIN AGE GROUPS AS THE OTHER
04:52:16.585 --> 04:52:17.820
GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, SO I WON'T
04:52:17.887 --> 04:52:21.724
GO DEEPER INTO THAT PART. WHAT I
04:52:21.790 --> 04:52:22.758
WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT EQUAL
04:52:22.825 --> 04:52:24.326
PROTECTIONS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE
04:52:24.393 --> 04:52:25.361
TO ALL INCARCERATE INCARCERATED
04:52:25.427 --> 04:52:29.465
PERSONS. DESPITE AGE DESPITE
04:52:29.531 --> 04:52:32.101
GENDER DESPITE RACE DESPITE
04:52:32.167 --> 04:52:33.569
DISABILITY, DESPITE, UM,
04:52:33.636 --> 04:52:37.940
IDENTITY. THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
04:52:38.007 --> 04:52:39.308
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES NOT
04:52:39.375 --> 04:52:41.477
HOPE HOUSE THOSE WITH PHYSICAL
04:52:41.543 --> 04:52:43.579
DISABILITIES OR WHO IDENTIFY AS
04:52:43.646 --> 04:52:45.414
LGBT. Q. I PLUS IN
04:52:45.481 --> 04:52:47.716
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING UNLESS
04:52:47.783 --> 04:52:48.784
THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED DUE
04:52:48.851 --> 04:52:51.220
TO THEIR OWN SAFETY CONCERNS.
04:52:51.287 --> 04:52:53.322
AND WE HAVE VERIFIED THAT NEED
04:52:53.389 --> 04:52:55.057
OR THEY ARE SO DANGEROUS TO
04:52:55.124 --> 04:52:56.358
OTHERS THAT THERE IS NOWHERE
04:52:56.425 --> 04:52:58.060
ELSE TO PLACE THEM TO PREVENT
04:52:58.127 --> 04:52:59.461
HARM TO OTHERS. FURTHER WE DO
04:52:59.528 --> 04:53:01.730
NOT PREVENT INCARCERATED PERSONS
04:53:01.797 --> 04:53:03.866
FROM SPEAKING TO OR ENACTING
04:53:03.933 --> 04:53:05.901
INTERACTING WITH OTHERS. IN FACT
04:53:05.968 --> 04:53:07.336
, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SO AS
04:53:07.403 --> 04:53:09.905
COMMUNICATION IS HEALTHY. AND
04:53:09.972 --> 04:53:11.073
IT'S HEALTHY ON THE ROAD TO
04:53:11.140 --> 04:53:13.175
RECOVERY AND REHABILITATION.
04:53:13.242 --> 04:53:14.610
UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE ALSO
04:53:14.677 --> 04:53:16.879
THOSE WHO NEED THIS TYPE OF
04:53:16.946 --> 04:53:17.479
HOUSING TO PREVENT THEM FROM
04:53:17.546 --> 04:53:19.114
BEING VICTIMIZED BY OTHERS. MOST
04:53:19.181 --> 04:53:20.649
PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER THE HIGHLY
04:53:20.716 --> 04:53:21.884
PUBLICIZED CASE OF NORMAL LOPEZ.
04:53:21.951 --> 04:53:24.119
BUT JUST IN CASE YOU DO NOT
04:53:24.186 --> 04:53:25.354
NORMAL. LOPEZ WAS A YOUNG
04:53:25.421 --> 04:53:26.855
TEENAGER OUT OF THE CITY OF
04:53:26.922 --> 04:53:28.424
MARINO VALLEY, WHO, AS SHE WAS
04:53:28.490 --> 04:53:29.558
WALKING HOME CROSSED THE FIELD
04:53:29.625 --> 04:53:31.727
WHERE SHE WAS ACCOSTED.
04:53:31.794 --> 04:53:33.395
ASSAULTED BRUTALIZED AND
04:53:33.462 --> 04:53:35.597
MURDERED. HER KILLER WAS
04:53:35.664 --> 04:53:36.699
EVENTUALLY CAUGHT AND SPENT TIME
04:53:36.765 --> 04:53:37.833
WITHIN THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY JAIL
04:53:37.900 --> 04:53:40.536
SYSTEM WHILE THEIR OTHER
04:53:40.602 --> 04:53:41.236
INCARCERATED PEOPLE REGULARLY
04:53:41.303 --> 04:53:43.172
EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRE TO KILL
04:53:43.238 --> 04:53:46.108
HIM. OUR AGENCY ATTEMPTED
04:53:46.175 --> 04:53:47.710
MULTIPLE MEANS OF HOUSING HIM
04:53:47.776 --> 04:53:49.044
WITH OTHERS. BUT WHENEVER THE
04:53:49.111 --> 04:53:50.412
INCARCERATED POPULATION FIGURED
04:53:50.479 --> 04:53:51.580
OUT WHO HE WAS, THEY ASSAULTED
04:53:51.647 --> 04:53:55.417
HIM. TO PREVENT HIS DEATH OR
04:53:55.484 --> 04:53:56.652
SERIOUS INJURY. HE WAS
04:53:56.719 --> 04:53:58.120
ULTIMATELY PLACED IN
04:53:58.187 --> 04:53:59.355
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING. THIS WAS
04:53:59.421 --> 04:54:01.223
FOR HIS WELFARE, NOT FOR OUR
04:54:01.290 --> 04:54:02.558
EASE THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
04:54:02.625 --> 04:54:04.593
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ATTEMPTS.
04:54:04.660 --> 04:54:07.029
EVERY MEANS TO LIMIT THE USE OF
04:54:07.096 --> 04:54:07.596
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING. BUT
04:54:07.663 --> 04:54:09.999
THERE ARE TIMES WE HAVE NO OTHER
04:54:10.065 --> 04:54:10.599
OPTION WHETHER THAT'S BECAUSE
04:54:10.666 --> 04:54:12.334
THE PERSON IS PLACED FOR THEIR
04:54:12.401 --> 04:54:14.370
FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY OR ANOTHER
04:54:14.436 --> 04:54:15.904
OR IN ORDER TO PROTECT OTHERS
04:54:15.971 --> 04:54:17.139
FROM VIOLENT AND PREDATORY
04:54:17.206 --> 04:54:19.608
BEHAVIORS. REGARDLESS OF THE
04:54:19.675 --> 04:54:20.976
REASON FOR THE HOUSING OUR
04:54:21.043 --> 04:54:22.444
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ARE AT
04:54:22.511 --> 04:54:23.979
THE FOREFRONT OF ALL
04:54:24.046 --> 04:54:25.481
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING DECISIONS
04:54:25.547 --> 04:54:27.149
, PHYSICAL FOLLOW UPS AND THE
04:54:27.216 --> 04:54:28.484
ADMINISTRATION OF MEDICATIONS
04:54:28.550 --> 04:54:29.385
AND TREATMENT IS COMPLETED
04:54:29.451 --> 04:54:32.154
DAILY. ADDITIONALLY EVERY
04:54:32.221 --> 04:54:32.955
ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE
04:54:33.022 --> 04:54:33.722
ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSING
04:54:33.789 --> 04:54:35.591
INDIVIDUALS WITH REASONABLE TIME
04:54:35.657 --> 04:54:36.992
OUT OF CELL AND PROGRAMMING IS
04:54:37.059 --> 04:54:38.594
OFFERED. AT NO TIME. DO WE ADD
04:54:38.660 --> 04:54:39.962
RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD DIFFER
04:54:40.029 --> 04:54:41.063
FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? I'M
04:54:41.130 --> 04:54:43.198
DONE RIGHT NOW. WE SEEK TO TREAT
04:54:43.265 --> 04:54:44.633
AND REHABILITATE THOSE WITH
04:54:44.700 --> 04:54:46.635
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS, AND ANYONE
04:54:46.702 --> 04:54:48.470
IN SEARCH OF OR IN NEED OF OUR
04:54:48.537 --> 04:54:49.872
HELP IN CLOSING THE RIVERSIDE
04:54:49.938 --> 04:54:50.773
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
04:54:50.839 --> 04:54:51.940
SHARE CHAD BIANCO ARE STRONGLY
04:54:52.007 --> 04:54:54.343
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
04:54:54.410 --> 04:54:55.944
QUÊ ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
04:54:56.011 --> 04:54:57.679
HERE IN ROOM 1 12 WISHING TO
04:54:57.746 --> 04:55:00.616
TESTIFY. AND COMPOSITION OF 26
04:55:00.682 --> 04:55:03.218
32 STATE YOUR NAME IN YOUR
04:55:03.285 --> 04:55:03.786
ORGANIZATION,MATTHEW EASILY
04:55:03.852 --> 04:55:04.987
WITH THE CALIFORNIA CORRECTIONAL
04:55:05.054 --> 04:55:06.021
PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION ALSO
04:55:06.088 --> 04:55:13.829
OPPOSED. THANK YOU. BRIAN
04:55:13.896 --> 04:55:14.363
SHERMAN WITH THE RIVERSIDE
04:55:14.430 --> 04:55:15.998
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION AND
04:55:16.065 --> 04:55:17.032
PLASTER COUNTY DEPUTY SHERIFF
04:55:17.099 --> 04:55:18.934
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION.
04:55:19.001 --> 04:55:22.071
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
04:55:22.137 --> 04:55:23.138
INDIVIDUALS HERE WISHING TO
04:55:23.205 --> 04:55:24.206
TESTIFY IN OUR POSITION? SEE
04:55:24.273 --> 04:55:28.010
NONE. MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR
04:55:28.077 --> 04:55:29.378
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WISHING TO
04:55:29.445 --> 04:55:34.083
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION 26 32. AND
04:55:34.149 --> 04:55:35.484
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
04:55:35.551 --> 04:55:36.752
OPPOSITION OF A B 26 32, PLEASE
04:55:36.819 --> 04:55:39.421
PRESS ONE AND ZERO WE'RE GONNA
04:55:39.488 --> 04:55:44.159
LINE TO 56. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
04:55:44.226 --> 04:55:45.861
KEVIN MCCARTHY ON BEHALF OF
04:55:45.928 --> 04:55:47.996
UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS INITIATIVE
04:55:48.063 --> 04:55:49.631
AND VERY STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
04:55:49.698 --> 04:55:51.500
BILL, PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE
04:55:51.567 --> 04:55:55.237
ENFORCEMENT LIVES. THANK YOU.
04:55:55.304 --> 04:55:56.371
AND JUST MOMENTS HAVE ANOTHER
04:55:56.438 --> 04:56:09.351
ONE QUEUING UP. OKAY AND WE'LL
04:56:09.418 --> 04:56:10.285
GO WITH LINE TO 49. PLEASE GO
04:56:10.352 --> 04:56:13.722
AHEAD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
04:56:13.789 --> 04:56:15.624
CARLENE ELLIS AND I WORK FOR THE
04:56:15.691 --> 04:56:17.593
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, AND
04:56:17.659 --> 04:56:18.494
THEY STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
04:56:18.560 --> 04:56:22.531
THANK YOU. IN THIS CHARITY HAVE
04:56:22.598 --> 04:56:24.833
NO ONE ELSE IN Q AT THIS TIME.
04:56:24.900 --> 04:56:28.036
HEY. HEARING FROM BOTH SUPPORT
04:56:28.103 --> 04:56:29.304
AND OPPOSITION. WE'RE GOING TO
04:56:29.371 --> 04:56:30.806
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
04:56:30.873 --> 04:56:31.874
DURING ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
04:56:31.940 --> 04:56:33.142
AS A RELATIONSHIP. THIS MEASURE,
04:56:33.208 --> 04:56:35.744
SENATOR OF KOBO SO IT'S
04:56:35.811 --> 04:56:41.150
INTERESTING BECAUSE. I HEAR THE
04:56:41.216 --> 04:56:42.484
CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WITH
04:56:42.551 --> 04:56:44.353
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES GOING
04:56:44.419 --> 04:56:45.454
THROUGH AND BEING COMING IN
04:56:45.521 --> 04:56:47.089
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND I HEAR
04:56:47.156 --> 04:56:51.927
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO SOUND A
04:56:51.994 --> 04:56:53.128
LITTLE FUNNY. UM IT'S PROBABLY
04:56:53.195 --> 04:56:54.563
NOT APPROPRIATE, BUT I'M JUST
04:56:54.630 --> 04:56:56.465
GONNA SAY IT WAS A PARENT.
04:56:56.532 --> 04:56:58.066
REMEMBER USING TIME OUT FOR MY
04:56:58.133 --> 04:57:00.202
KIDS, AND I REMEMBER THERE WAS A
04:57:00.269 --> 04:57:03.138
STRATEGIC TIME SETS. DEPENDING
04:57:03.205 --> 04:57:04.606
ON THE AGE OF THE CHILD IS
04:57:04.673 --> 04:57:05.807
EITHER, TOO IF THERE WERE THREE
04:57:05.874 --> 04:57:07.576
YEARS OLD, THREE MINUTES AND SO
04:57:07.643 --> 04:57:08.810
FORTH, YOU WOULD PLAY SOME OF
04:57:08.877 --> 04:57:11.346
THE TIME OUT SO THEY COULD THINK
04:57:11.413 --> 04:57:13.148
ABOUT WHAT THEY HAD DONE. YOU
04:57:13.215 --> 04:57:13.815
TALK TO THEM, YOU PLACE A MINUTE
04:57:13.882 --> 04:57:15.617
IN THERE. AND IT WAS A TIME FOR
04:57:15.684 --> 04:57:18.987
THEM TO REFLECT. IN YOUR STUDY
04:57:19.054 --> 04:57:20.522
IN YOUR RESEARCH IN THIS SPACE,
04:57:20.589 --> 04:57:22.324
IS THERE ANY APPROPRIATE TIME
04:57:22.391 --> 04:57:23.292
FRAMES FOR SOLITARY CONFINEMENT?
04:57:23.358 --> 04:57:29.665
THAT WOULD BE OKAY. IS THERE A
04:57:29.731 --> 04:57:35.504
TIME FRAME WORK IT EXCEEDS. UM.
04:57:35.571 --> 04:57:40.075
NEED EXCEEDS AND BECOMES. CRUEL
04:57:40.142 --> 04:57:44.413
AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT. THE
04:57:44.479 --> 04:57:46.615
STATE. THANK YOU, SENATOR OF THE
04:57:46.682 --> 04:57:50.319
BILL ITSELF TO FINES. THE
04:57:50.385 --> 04:57:51.353
APPROPRIATE OR THE MAXIMUM
04:57:51.420 --> 04:57:54.089
AMOUNT OF TIME. THAT A PERSON
04:57:54.156 --> 04:57:56.091
MAY BE PLACED IN SOLITARY
04:57:56.158 --> 04:57:59.027
CONFINEMENT. AH IS 15
04:57:59.094 --> 04:58:00.162
CONSECUTIVE DAYS AND NOT MORE
04:58:00.229 --> 04:58:01.630
THAN 45 DAYS. WITHIN 180 DAY
04:58:01.697 --> 04:58:10.005
PERIOD. THAT ANYTHING THAT IS.
04:58:10.072 --> 04:58:12.608
BEING CONFINED TO A CELL FOR 17
04:58:12.674 --> 04:58:14.343
HOURS A DAY OR MORE WITHOUT
04:58:14.409 --> 04:58:17.579
ACCESS TO SOCIAL INTERACTION. IS
04:58:17.646 --> 04:58:18.747
CONSIDERED SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
04:58:18.814 --> 04:58:22.985
AS THE BILL DEFINES OKAY, SO NOW
04:58:23.051 --> 04:58:24.620
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, FOR
04:58:24.686 --> 04:58:29.224
THOSE IN OPPOSITION. ARE THOSE
04:58:29.291 --> 04:58:31.493
TIME FRAMES NOT SUFFICIENT IS DO
04:58:31.560 --> 04:58:33.462
YOU SEE CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH THEY
04:58:33.528 --> 04:58:40.902
NEED TO BE EXTENDED. IN MY HEAD
04:58:40.969 --> 04:58:44.072
. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. THE
04:58:44.139 --> 04:58:45.641
ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE
04:58:45.707 --> 04:58:46.875
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED ON BOTH
04:58:46.942 --> 04:58:48.243
SIDES, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
04:58:48.310 --> 04:58:50.279
OUT IF THERE IS A COMPROMISE IF
04:58:50.345 --> 04:58:52.447
THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN
04:58:52.514 --> 04:58:56.118
ACCOMMODATE THE NEED. AND THEN
04:58:56.184 --> 04:58:58.120
MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T EXTEND
04:58:58.186 --> 04:58:59.454
OR EXCEED. ANYTHING THAT WOULD
04:58:59.521 --> 04:59:04.893
BE REASONABLE. AND CRUEL.
04:59:04.960 --> 04:59:06.094
THROUGH THE CHAIR. I WOULD JUST
04:59:06.161 --> 04:59:08.063
SAY, I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO
04:59:08.130 --> 04:59:09.731
MY REMARKS ABOUT HE PROPRIETY
04:59:09.798 --> 04:59:11.933
OF EXAMINING THIS QUESTION IN
04:59:12.000 --> 04:59:13.502
THE IN THE MODE OF STATUTE
04:59:13.568 --> 04:59:15.771
VERSUS THE MODE OF REGULATIONS
04:59:15.837 --> 04:59:17.272
BEFORE THE BOARD OF STATE AND
04:59:17.339 --> 04:59:18.774
COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, AND SO
04:59:18.840 --> 04:59:19.574
THE PURPOSE OF THE BORDER STATE
04:59:19.641 --> 04:59:20.909
COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS IS TO LOOK
04:59:20.976 --> 04:59:22.911
AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS
04:59:22.978 --> 04:59:24.613
WITHIN TITLE 15. AS FOR THE
04:59:24.680 --> 04:59:25.647
OPERATION OF CUSTODIAL
04:59:25.714 --> 04:59:28.417
FACILITIES, AND SO IF 17 HOURS
04:59:28.483 --> 04:59:30.619
OR 16 HOURS OR 18 HOURS OR 15
04:59:30.686 --> 04:59:33.422
DAYS, AND NO MORE THAN 45 180,
04:59:33.488 --> 04:59:35.524
OR IF IT'S 20 DAYS AND NO MORE
04:59:35.590 --> 04:59:36.758
THAN 50 AND 200 DAYS I'M NOT
04:59:36.825 --> 04:59:40.529
SURE THAT THERE IS FOR LACK OF A
04:59:40.595 --> 04:59:41.463
BETTER TERM SETTLED SCIENCE ON
04:59:41.530 --> 04:59:43.198
WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T
04:59:43.265 --> 04:59:44.633
APPROPRIATE IN THAT REGARD, AND
04:59:44.700 --> 04:59:46.268
I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH
04:59:46.335 --> 04:59:48.603
TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING
04:59:48.670 --> 04:59:50.439
WITH A NUMBER AND PUT IT IN
04:59:50.505 --> 04:59:53.141
STATUTE. SO I DON'T QUESTION THE
04:59:53.208 --> 04:59:53.809
FACTS UPON WHICH THE AUTHOR AND
04:59:53.875 --> 04:59:55.177
THE PROPONENTS BASED THE BILL
04:59:55.243 --> 04:59:56.712
AND THE ASSERTIONS. I'M NOT
04:59:56.778 --> 04:59:58.613
SAYING THAT IS OR ISN'T THE
04:59:58.680 --> 05:00:00.549
RIGHT AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT TO PUT
05:00:00.615 --> 05:00:02.951
IT IN STATUTE MAKES IT ON IT'S
05:00:03.018 --> 05:00:05.053
NOT EASY TO CHANGE IF TOMORROW,
05:00:05.120 --> 05:00:07.289
THE SCIENCE SAYS IT'S 16 HOURS
05:00:07.356 --> 05:00:09.658
AND NO MORE THAN 12 DAYS IN A IN
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A 45 DAY PERIOD. THE WHOLE
05:00:13.295 --> 05:00:18.567
NOTION OF SCIENCE. TRUST ME. I.
05:00:18.633 --> 05:00:20.135
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THAT
05:00:20.202 --> 05:00:21.536
WHOLE NOTION OF SCIENCE AND
05:00:21.603 --> 05:00:22.838
ALWAYS EVOLVING WITH THE
05:00:22.904 --> 05:00:24.406
RESEARCH THAT WE CONTINUOUSLY
05:00:24.473 --> 05:00:28.710
GOING ON. SO I UNDERSTAND. ANY
05:00:28.777 --> 05:00:29.644
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SENATORS
05:00:29.711 --> 05:00:33.415
CALM WATER. YEAH, THANK YOU.
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FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE.
05:00:38.487 --> 05:00:45.293
WITNESS FOR, UM, TESTIFYING, UM. I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER.
05:00:45.360 --> 05:00:48.663
UM BRAVERY AND STAYING THE
05:00:48.730 --> 05:00:52.434
COURSE. AND FOR BEING HONEST
05:00:52.501 --> 05:00:54.770
ABOUT ASKING US TO GIVE YOU SOME
05:00:54.836 --> 05:00:56.004
MORE TIME BECAUSE YOUR STORY WAS
05:00:56.071 --> 05:01:00.175
REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHARE. UM I
05:01:00.242 --> 05:01:02.344
ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT
05:01:02.411 --> 05:01:06.681
TO, UM. RECOGNIZE THE HONESTY'S
05:01:06.748 --> 05:01:08.617
OF WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT HAPPENS
05:01:08.683 --> 05:01:10.318
IN PRISONS AND CORRECTIONAL
05:01:10.385 --> 05:01:13.422
FACILITIES. YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE
05:01:13.488 --> 05:01:15.290
SEXUALLY ABUSED ALL THE TIME
05:01:15.357 --> 05:01:17.926
PEOPLE ARE SODOMIZED. PEOPLE ARE
05:01:17.993 --> 05:01:21.196
PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR EYES. UM
05:01:21.263 --> 05:01:23.398
STABBED OUT, PEOPLE HAVE HAD HAD
05:01:23.465 --> 05:01:25.033
THEIR HEADS CUT OFF LITERALLY.
05:01:25.100 --> 05:01:26.868
IN A STATE PRISON. A MAN WAS
05:01:26.935 --> 05:01:32.174
DECAPITATED. UM. AND I ACTUALLY
05:01:32.240 --> 05:01:35.177
DO BELIEVE IN INSTANCES LIKE
05:01:35.243 --> 05:01:37.212
THOSE AND THEY ARE FAR MORE
05:01:37.279 --> 05:01:38.346
FREQUENT THAN WE WANT TO TALK
05:01:38.413 --> 05:01:41.883
ABOUT. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PUT
05:01:41.950 --> 05:01:43.285
INTO GENERAL POPULATION. BUT I
05:01:43.351 --> 05:01:49.291
BELIEVE. IT'S NOT ABOUT SOLITARY
05:01:49.357 --> 05:01:50.358
CONFINEMENT. IT'S ABOUT PROPER
05:01:50.425 --> 05:01:54.062
ASSESSMENT. WHEN YOU ARE IN THE
05:01:54.129 --> 05:01:55.564
RECEIVING, AND THE RECEPTION
05:01:55.630 --> 05:01:57.432
CENTER, THE FIGURE OUT THE KINDS
05:01:57.499 --> 05:01:59.701
OF ISSUES AND MENTAL UNWELL NOUS
05:01:59.768 --> 05:02:01.603
AND THE DEGREE OF MENTAL UNWELL
05:02:01.670 --> 05:02:03.238
NOUS THAT AN INCARCERATED PERSON
05:02:03.305 --> 05:02:05.273
HAS SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO BE
05:02:05.340 --> 05:02:05.807
PLACED. IN AN APPROPRIATE
05:02:05.874 --> 05:02:11.112
SETTING. UM BECAUSE I ALSO
05:02:11.179 --> 05:02:13.582
BELIEVE THAT MENTAL AND WELLNESS
05:02:13.648 --> 05:02:14.649
ACCELERATES WHEN YOU ARE
05:02:14.716 --> 05:02:18.220
INCARCERATED. UM MY
05:02:18.286 --> 05:02:19.254
UNDERSTANDING. AND PLEASE
05:02:19.321 --> 05:02:22.557
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THIS
05:02:22.624 --> 05:02:26.361
BILL DOESN'T. GREAT OUT, FLATLY
05:02:26.428 --> 05:02:30.165
PROHIBIT. SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
05:02:30.232 --> 05:02:37.572
UM. AND THERE ARE STILL
05:02:37.639 --> 05:02:39.674
OPPORTUNITIES AND FLEXIBILITIES
05:02:39.741 --> 05:02:42.244
WITHIN THE BILL TO ALLOW FOR OUR
05:02:42.310 --> 05:02:43.912
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY ON A CASE
05:02:43.979 --> 05:02:46.915
BY CASE BASIS. TO MAKE SOME
05:02:46.982 --> 05:02:49.017
ARRANGEMENTS FOR SOMEONE WHO
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EITHER NEEDS A TIME OUT OR NEEDS
05:02:52.053 --> 05:02:53.021
TO BE SEGREGATED FROM THE
05:02:53.088 --> 05:02:54.956
POPULATION EITHER FOR THEIR WELL
05:02:55.023 --> 05:02:56.558
BEING OR FOR THE WELL BEING OF
05:02:56.625 --> 05:02:57.726
EVERYONE ELSE, INCLUDING OTHER
05:02:57.792 --> 05:02:59.561
INCARCERATED PEOPLE. AND STAFF,
05:02:59.628 --> 05:03:01.229
SO I MIGHT CORRECT YOU'RE
05:03:01.296 --> 05:03:07.903
CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. AND, UM.
05:03:07.969 --> 05:03:13.208
THIS ALSO MEANS THAT, UM. AND I
05:03:13.275 --> 05:03:14.809
ALSO SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME
05:03:14.876 --> 05:03:17.279
EXCEPTIONS. IN THE BILL. FOR
05:03:17.345 --> 05:03:21.683
EXAMPLE, PREGNANT WOMEN. AGING
05:03:21.750 --> 05:03:23.351
POPULATIONS, FOLKS WITH MENTAL
05:03:23.418 --> 05:03:24.920
DISORDERS SO THAT SPECIAL
05:03:24.986 --> 05:03:25.954
ACCOMMODATIONS CAN BE MADE FOR
05:03:26.021 --> 05:03:28.056
THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S
05:03:28.123 --> 05:03:32.060
CORRECT. UM AND THEN I'M
05:03:32.127 --> 05:03:34.129
ASSUMING THAT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR
05:03:34.195 --> 05:03:36.197
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES TO BE
05:03:36.264 --> 05:03:39.467
IMAGINATIVE ABOUT HOW THEY USED
05:03:39.534 --> 05:03:40.969
EITHER CONFINEMENT, WHICH
05:03:41.036 --> 05:03:42.637
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN SOLITARY,
05:03:42.704 --> 05:03:44.072
BUT HOW THEY USE CONFINEMENT AND
05:03:44.139 --> 05:03:45.540
HOW THEY USE SEGREGATION IN A
05:03:45.607 --> 05:03:48.310
WAY THAT A IS HUMANE B IS STILL
05:03:48.376 --> 05:03:50.979
SAFE. AND STILL ALLOWS FOR THE
05:03:51.046 --> 05:03:53.114
MAINTENANCE OF THE CORRECTIONAL
05:03:53.181 --> 05:03:54.716
FACILITY TO HAPPEN. SO IS THAT
05:03:54.783 --> 05:03:55.917
STILL ALLOWED EVEN WITH THIS
05:03:55.984 --> 05:03:58.753
BILL? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU
05:03:58.820 --> 05:04:04.426
VERY MUCH. AND I, TOO WANT TO
05:04:04.492 --> 05:04:05.660
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR THIS
05:04:05.727 --> 05:04:07.362
MEASURE. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS
05:04:07.429 --> 05:04:10.365
WHO TRULY DO NOT BELONG IN
05:04:10.432 --> 05:04:14.235
JUNIOR POPULATION, BUT. THAT
05:04:14.302 --> 05:04:15.837
BEING SAID IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
05:04:15.904 --> 05:04:17.872
THEY SHOULD BE HOUSED IN AN
05:04:17.939 --> 05:04:18.940
INHUMANE WAY, WHICH ONLY
05:04:19.007 --> 05:04:24.212
EXACERBATES AND ADDS TO WHATEVER
05:04:24.279 --> 05:04:25.513
MENTAL DISORDER THAT THEY HAVE,
05:04:25.580 --> 05:04:28.450
AND I THINK, UH, THERE ARE TIMES
05:04:28.516 --> 05:04:30.018
I COULD SAY WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO
05:04:30.085 --> 05:04:31.519
BE ISOLATION, AND I HEARD THE
05:04:31.586 --> 05:04:33.755
OPPOSITION SAY THAT ONE SIZE FIT
05:04:33.822 --> 05:04:34.923
ALL WELL CURRENTLY, THEIR
05:04:34.990 --> 05:04:37.959
PROCESSES ONE SIZE FITS ALL. AND
05:04:38.026 --> 05:04:41.396
THIS PROVIDES CLEAR FLEXIBILITY
05:04:41.463 --> 05:04:43.798
, THE RANGE AND 50 NO MORE THAN
05:04:43.865 --> 05:04:46.801
15 DAYS AND NO MORE THAN 45 DAYS
05:04:46.868 --> 05:04:49.037
OVER 180. I THINK IT'S FAIR.
05:04:49.104 --> 05:04:52.741
IT'S HUMANE AS A SON OF A PSYCH
05:04:52.807 --> 05:04:55.076
NURSE. I'VE HEARD MANY OF THE
05:04:55.143 --> 05:04:56.511
HORROR STORIES OF INDIVIDUALS
05:04:56.578 --> 05:04:58.513
WITH MENTAL CHALLENGES, BUT AT
05:04:58.580 --> 05:04:59.748
THE SAME TIME, YOU DON'T
05:04:59.814 --> 05:05:02.050
MISTREAT THEM AND ONLY ADD TO
05:05:02.117 --> 05:05:06.187
THE TRAUMA TO IT. SO UM, I'M I
05:05:06.254 --> 05:05:07.856
WANT TO SUPPORT THE BILL. I
05:05:07.922 --> 05:05:09.991
THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE THAT WE
05:05:10.058 --> 05:05:11.493
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A PRISONER
05:05:11.559 --> 05:05:13.261
IN PRISON. YOU SHOULDN'T LOSE
05:05:13.328 --> 05:05:17.198
YOUR HUMANITY AND THE WAY WE
05:05:17.265 --> 05:05:18.633
HAVE USED SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
05:05:18.700 --> 05:05:20.769
HAS TAKEN AWAY. THE HUMANITY OF
05:05:20.835 --> 05:05:23.271
SO MANY PEOPLE, AND I'M GLAD
05:05:23.338 --> 05:05:24.806
IT'S NAMED AFTER MOUNTAIN SOME
05:05:24.873 --> 05:05:25.807
MANDELA BECAUSE IT WAS AN
05:05:25.874 --> 05:05:30.779
INDIVIDUAL WHO TRULY WAS TREATED
05:05:30.845 --> 05:05:34.215
VERY INHUMANE FOR DECADES, AND
05:05:34.282 --> 05:05:37.018
HE SPOKE TO THE EFFECTS OF
05:05:37.085 --> 05:05:38.553
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND THE
05:05:38.620 --> 05:05:39.721
FACT THAT WHAT IT HAD ON HIM. SO
05:05:39.788 --> 05:05:43.825
I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS,
05:05:43.892 --> 05:05:46.828
AND I THINK IT PROVIDES THOSE
05:05:46.895 --> 05:05:48.897
PRISON GUARDS. UH SOME
05:05:48.963 --> 05:05:50.565
FLEXIBILITY, BUT AT THE SAME
05:05:50.632 --> 05:05:54.703
TIME, IT MIGHT EVEN YOU KNOW, WE
05:05:54.769 --> 05:05:57.806
KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW. UNSTABLE
05:05:57.872 --> 05:06:00.008
PRISONERS CAN DO TO ONE ANOTHER
05:06:00.075 --> 05:06:01.843
. BUT WE ALSO KNOW WHAT'S SOME
05:06:01.910 --> 05:06:02.677
OF THE PRISON GUARDS DO THE
05:06:02.744 --> 05:06:05.213
FOLKS TOO, SO I THINK IT NEEDS
05:06:05.280 --> 05:06:07.082
TO BE A BALANCE THERE. SO I
05:06:07.148 --> 05:06:09.384
THINK THIS HELPS. AH PROTECT ALL
05:06:09.451 --> 05:06:14.355
THOSE WHO ARE INSIDE THAT THE
05:06:14.422 --> 05:06:17.992
PASS. AS AMENDED, NOT TOO PROUD
05:06:18.059 --> 05:06:23.531
TO APPROPRIATIONS. AND IS THERE
05:06:23.598 --> 05:06:25.166
? NO. YEAH IT'S TWO POWERS HAS
05:06:25.233 --> 05:06:26.801
AMENDED. I'M SORRY. I HAVE TOO
05:06:26.868 --> 05:06:27.936
MANY HOLDING BILLS IN FRONT OF
05:06:28.002 --> 05:06:29.671
ME DO PASS AS AMENDED. IS THERE
05:06:29.738 --> 05:06:31.773
A MOTION FOR THIS MEASURE? HAS
05:06:31.840 --> 05:06:33.475
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR KAMLAGER,
05:06:33.541 --> 05:06:34.676
UH, SIMILAR IN HOLDING. WOULD
05:06:34.743 --> 05:06:37.445
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? WELL I'D LIKE
05:06:37.512 --> 05:06:42.751
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR YOUR. REALLY EMBRACING AND
05:06:42.817 --> 05:06:43.418
UNDERSTANDING AND THE
05:06:43.485 --> 05:06:47.255
QUESTIONING. AND. BEING VERY
05:06:47.322 --> 05:06:49.190
CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS BILL IS
05:06:49.257 --> 05:06:52.127
AND WHAT IT IS NOT. I ALSO WANT
05:06:52.193 --> 05:06:53.928
TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT FOR
05:06:53.995 --> 05:06:55.497
THOSE WHO ARE WORKING IN OUR
05:06:55.563 --> 05:06:57.632
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, IT IS
05:06:57.699 --> 05:07:00.101
NOT AN EASY JOB, AND I THINK WE
05:07:00.168 --> 05:07:02.203
ALL RECOGNIZE THAT I HEARD AN
05:07:02.270 --> 05:07:03.538
OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT NEW FALSE.
05:07:03.605 --> 05:07:04.472
UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO. AND I HAVE
05:07:04.539 --> 05:07:06.141
NOTHING BUT THE HIGHEST RESPECT
05:07:06.207 --> 05:07:07.575
FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORKING. IN
05:07:07.642 --> 05:07:11.146
THE CORRECTIONAL SYSTEM. AH! BUT
05:07:11.212 --> 05:07:12.781
I THINK IT'S ALSO AND I'LL JUST
05:07:12.847 --> 05:07:14.816
AGAINST STATE WHAT I HAD IN MY
05:07:14.883 --> 05:07:15.884
TALKING POINTS EARLIER. THE
05:07:15.950 --> 05:07:16.951
CURRENT CONSENSUS AMONG MENTAL
05:07:17.018 --> 05:07:18.419
HEALTH EXPERTS. HUMAN RIGHTS
05:07:18.486 --> 05:07:20.555
ORGANIZATIONS. AND THE UNITED
05:07:20.622 --> 05:07:24.692
NATIONS. IS THAT PROLONGED
05:07:24.759 --> 05:07:25.660
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AMOUNTS TO
05:07:25.727 --> 05:07:27.395
TORTURE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
05:07:27.462 --> 05:07:32.300
YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
05:07:32.367 --> 05:07:34.402
MOTION BY SENATOR KAMLAGER
05:07:34.469 --> 05:07:36.437
COUNCIL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
05:07:36.504 --> 05:07:40.074
A B 26 32. A B 26 32 BRADFORD
05:07:40.141 --> 05:07:44.779
DIACO BOGUE. TRUE BUT NOT VOTING
05:07:44.846 --> 05:07:45.914
. KAMLAGER KAMLAGER, AYE SKINNER
05:07:45.980 --> 05:07:48.983
WIENER. WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE
05:07:49.050 --> 05:07:51.186
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD
05:07:51.252 --> 05:08:02.831
ON AND NOW WE'RE ON 26 44.
05:08:02.897 --> 05:08:07.268
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. TODAY I'M
05:08:07.335 --> 05:08:09.404
PRESENTING A B 26 44 BILL THAT
05:08:09.470 --> 05:08:11.005
PROHIBITS A LAW ENFORCEMENT
05:08:11.072 --> 05:08:12.340
OFFICER FROM EMPLOYING THREATS,
05:08:12.407 --> 05:08:14.709
PHYSICAL HARM, DECEPTION OR
05:08:14.776 --> 05:08:16.244
PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION.
05:08:16.311 --> 05:08:18.079
INTERROGATION TACTICS DURING
05:08:18.146 --> 05:08:19.314
INTERROGATION OF A PERSON 25
05:08:19.380 --> 05:08:22.617
YEARS OF AGE. OR YOUNGER.
05:08:22.684 --> 05:08:24.919
ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR
05:08:24.986 --> 05:08:25.553
WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS OF YOUTH,
05:08:25.620 --> 05:08:27.956
FALSE CONFESSIONS ARE ONE OF THE
05:08:28.022 --> 05:08:28.723
LEADING CAUSES OF WRONGFUL
05:08:28.790 --> 05:08:30.158
CONVICTIONS, ACCOUNTING FOR
05:08:30.225 --> 05:08:33.061
ROUGHLY 25% OF ALL CONVICTIONS
05:08:33.127 --> 05:08:34.262
THAT WERE LATER OVERTURNED BASED
05:08:34.329 --> 05:08:37.365
ON DNA EVIDENCE. CURRENT LAW
05:08:37.432 --> 05:08:39.734
REQUIRES THAT A USE 17 YEARS OF
05:08:39.801 --> 05:08:41.169
AGE OR YOUNGER, CONSULT WITH
05:08:41.236 --> 05:08:43.404
LEGAL COUNSEL IN PERSON BY
05:08:43.471 --> 05:08:45.807
TELEPHONE OR BY VIDEO CONFERENCE
05:08:45.874 --> 05:08:46.875
PRIOR TO A CUSTODIAL
05:08:46.941 --> 05:08:48.209
INTERROGATION AND BEFORE WAIVING
05:08:48.276 --> 05:08:51.212
ANY RIGHTS. HOWEVER SIMPLY
05:08:51.279 --> 05:08:53.281
PROTECTING YOUTH UNDER 18 FROM
05:08:53.348 --> 05:08:55.550
IMPROPER INTERROGATION METHODS
05:08:55.617 --> 05:08:56.484
THAT INCREASE THE RISK OF A
05:08:56.551 --> 05:08:59.220
FALSE CONFESSION IS NOT IN LINE
05:08:59.287 --> 05:09:00.488
WITH THE BODIES OF RESEARCH THAT
05:09:00.555 --> 05:09:01.556
INDICATES THAT A PERSON'S BRAIN
05:09:01.623 --> 05:09:02.690
IS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED. UNTIL
05:09:02.757 --> 05:09:07.528
THE AGE OF 25. MAYBE 26 44 ALSO
05:09:07.595 --> 05:09:09.631
REQUIRES A PROBATION OFFICER NO
05:09:09.697 --> 05:09:11.566
LATER THAN TWO HOURS AFTER A
05:09:11.633 --> 05:09:13.001
MINOR HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO
05:09:13.067 --> 05:09:14.702
CUSTODY TO IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY
05:09:14.769 --> 05:09:16.037
THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OR IF THERE
05:09:16.104 --> 05:09:18.106
IS NO PUBLIC DEFENDER. THE
05:09:18.172 --> 05:09:20.241
INDIGENT DEFENSE PROVIDER FOR
05:09:20.308 --> 05:09:22.010
THE COUNTY AND INFORM THAT
05:09:22.076 --> 05:09:23.211
PERSON THAT THE PERSON HAS BEEN
05:09:23.278 --> 05:09:26.214
TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. WITH ME TO
05:09:26.281 --> 05:09:28.182
TESTIFY ARE TERRELL SWIFT
05:09:28.249 --> 05:09:30.551
ADVOCATE AN EX EXONERATED PERSON
05:09:30.618 --> 05:09:31.619
. HIS TESTIMONY WILL BE IN
05:09:31.686 --> 05:09:34.656
PERSON AND RICHARD BROOKSHIRE.
05:09:34.722 --> 05:09:36.791
BOARD MEMBER OF THE PACIFIC
05:09:36.858 --> 05:09:37.525
JUVENILE DEFENDER CENTER. HAS
05:09:37.592 --> 05:09:38.526
TESTIMONY WILL ALSO BE IN
05:09:38.593 --> 05:09:40.295
PERSON. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
05:09:40.361 --> 05:09:44.599
YOUR VOTE. AH DO YOU HAVE MR
05:09:44.666 --> 05:09:45.667
SWIFT FIRST YOU HAVE TWO
05:09:45.733 --> 05:09:48.069
MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD
05:09:48.136 --> 05:09:49.203
AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THANK YOU,
05:09:49.270 --> 05:09:52.607
COUNCILMAN. UM, THANK YOU GUYS
05:09:52.674 --> 05:09:53.841
FOR HAVING ME MY NAME IS TARO
05:09:53.908 --> 05:09:57.278
SWIFT. UM AS SENATOR JUST
05:09:57.345 --> 05:09:58.746
EXPLAINED, I WAS SPENT 15.5
05:09:58.813 --> 05:10:00.748
YEARS FOR A CRIME THAT I DIDN'T
05:10:00.815 --> 05:10:03.318
COMMIT. FROM ILLINOIS. I'M A
05:10:03.384 --> 05:10:04.686
TRANSPLANT ON THE TRANSPLANT
05:10:04.752 --> 05:10:06.054
FROM THE STATE OF ILLINOIS,
05:10:06.120 --> 05:10:07.889
WHERE AGAIN WHERE I SPENT 15.5
05:10:07.956 --> 05:10:09.891
YEARS IN PRISON. FOR RAPING THE
05:10:09.958 --> 05:10:11.960
MURDERER THAT I DID NOT COMMIT
05:10:12.026 --> 05:10:13.895
17 YEARS OF AGE, WAS TAKEN INTO
05:10:13.962 --> 05:10:15.630
THE POLICE STATION AND WAS
05:10:15.697 --> 05:10:19.200
QUESTIONED. AND INTERROGATED IN
05:10:19.267 --> 05:10:21.202
REGARDS TO A MURDER THAT AGAIN I
05:10:21.269 --> 05:10:22.971
HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF ME OR MY CO
05:10:23.037 --> 05:10:25.206
DEFENDANTS HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF
05:10:25.273 --> 05:10:27.342
BUT WE ALL SUBSEQUENTLY SIGNED
05:10:27.408 --> 05:10:29.711
CONFESSIONS BASED ON THE ACTIONS
05:10:29.777 --> 05:10:31.846
OF THE POLICE. THEY HAMMERED US
05:10:31.913 --> 05:10:33.348
AND TOLD US WE WERE DYING IN
05:10:33.414 --> 05:10:35.350
JAIL. WE WERE NEVER GOING HOME
05:10:35.416 --> 05:10:37.218
AND WE WERE KIDS IN JAIL. AND
05:10:37.285 --> 05:10:38.753
THEY SAID IF YOU COOPERATE WITH
05:10:38.820 --> 05:10:39.988
US, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LET YOU
05:10:40.054 --> 05:10:42.824
GO HOME. UNFORTUNATELY THAT
05:10:42.890 --> 05:10:43.424
DIDN'T HAPPEN. WE ALL
05:10:43.491 --> 05:10:44.859
SUBSEQUENTLY SIGNED FALSE
05:10:44.926 --> 05:10:47.161
CONFESSIONS. BUT GIVEN THE
05:10:47.228 --> 05:10:48.596
NATURE OF THE OFFENSE THAT WERE
05:10:48.663 --> 05:10:49.964
THERE WAS A SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT
05:10:50.031 --> 05:10:51.733
WE'RE D AND THERE WAS DNA
05:10:51.799 --> 05:10:52.867
INVOLVED AND WE WERE ALL
05:10:52.934 --> 05:10:54.469
EXCLUDED. BUT AGAIN DURING TRIAL
05:10:54.535 --> 05:10:55.903
. WE WERE STILL CONVICTED AND
05:10:55.970 --> 05:10:57.572
SENTENCED TO 15 30 YEARS. 30
05:10:57.638 --> 05:11:02.043
YEARS 40 AND 40. UM WHAT I WANT
05:11:02.110 --> 05:11:04.245
. I'M HERE TO TESTIFY BECAUSE
05:11:04.312 --> 05:11:05.847
I'M IN CALIFORNIA RESIDENT AND
05:11:05.913 --> 05:11:07.215
THIS ISSUE WITH SOMETHING AND
05:11:07.281 --> 05:11:09.217
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. UH
05:11:09.283 --> 05:11:11.152
LAST YEAR I WAS ABLE TO SHARE MY
05:11:11.219 --> 05:11:12.820
STORY IN ILLINOIS AND WE WERE
05:11:12.887 --> 05:11:14.889
ABLE IN ILLINOIS AND WE WERE
05:11:14.956 --> 05:11:16.624
ABLE TO CHANGE THAT LAW. TO STOP
05:11:16.691 --> 05:11:18.326
THE POLICE FROM LYING TO THE
05:11:18.393 --> 05:11:19.894
YOUTH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THIS
05:11:19.961 --> 05:11:21.896
ISSUE IS SO BIG FOR ME BECAUSE I
05:11:21.963 --> 05:11:23.765
TRULY FEEL LIKE IT COULD HAVE
05:11:23.831 --> 05:11:25.066
SAVED MY LIFE. IF I HAD
05:11:25.133 --> 05:11:26.701
SOMETHING THAT I HAVE PROTECTIVE
05:11:26.768 --> 05:11:27.935
MECHANISMS IN PLACE THAT WOULD
05:11:28.002 --> 05:11:29.103
HAVE STOPPED ME AND WOULD HAVE
05:11:29.170 --> 05:11:31.739
INFORMED ME. OR WOULD HAVE HAD
05:11:31.806 --> 05:11:32.907
MECHANISM PLACE THAT WOULD HAVE
05:11:32.974 --> 05:11:34.042
HAD THE AUTHORITIES DO THE RIGHT
05:11:34.108 --> 05:11:37.311
THING. THE REAL KILLER WOULD
05:11:37.378 --> 05:11:38.813
HAVE BEEN APPREHENDED, AND
05:11:38.880 --> 05:11:39.881
THAT'S THE REAL THING. IT'S THE
05:11:39.947 --> 05:11:41.816
COMMUNITY SAFETY ISSUE. THAT'S
05:11:41.883 --> 05:11:43.184
THAT THAT WE'RE MISSING IT AS
05:11:43.251 --> 05:11:45.353
WELL. NOT ONLY THAT YOU THAT YOU
05:11:45.420 --> 05:11:47.922
STRIP OUR LIVES. AH AND TAKE SO
05:11:47.989 --> 05:11:49.757
MUCH FROM US, BUT YOU ASKED THAT
05:11:49.824 --> 05:11:51.492
THEY ACTUALLY LEFT THE REAL
05:11:51.559 --> 05:11:52.693
PERPETRATOR ON THE STREET AND HE
05:11:52.760 --> 05:11:54.062
CONTINUOUSLY RAPED AND MURDERED
05:11:54.128 --> 05:11:58.266
MULTIPLE WOMEN. TO THE TONE OF
05:11:58.332 --> 05:12:01.369
THIS MAN THAT WAS CONVICTED FOR
05:12:01.436 --> 05:12:03.004
RAPE AND THE MURDER WHILE WE
05:12:03.071 --> 05:12:05.740
WERE ALL TEAMS WITH NO VIOLENT
05:12:05.807 --> 05:12:08.209
HISTORY, ALL IN PRISON FOR A
05:12:08.276 --> 05:12:09.544
CRIME THAT WE DID NOT COMMIT
05:12:09.610 --> 05:12:10.678
THIS GROWN MEN WITH VIOLENT
05:12:10.745 --> 05:12:14.115
HISTORY. THE LAST TIME THAN US
05:12:14.182 --> 05:12:15.116
WHILE WE WERE STILL
05:12:15.183 --> 05:12:18.619
INCARCERATED, WRONGFULLY AGAIN.
05:12:18.686 --> 05:12:19.687
COMMUNITIES IN DANGER. WE'RE WE
05:12:19.754 --> 05:12:22.623
WANT THAT WE WANT WHAT? THE
05:12:22.690 --> 05:12:24.826
POLICE! WE WANT THE RIGHT PERSON
05:12:24.892 --> 05:12:26.627
LOCKED UP AND WE DON'T WANT ANY
05:12:26.694 --> 05:12:29.397
MORE STORIES LIKE MYSELF AND SO
05:12:29.464 --> 05:12:31.132
MANY OTHER YOUNG MEN THAT HAVE
05:12:31.199 --> 05:12:32.433
STORIES LIKE MYSELF. UH AND NOT
05:12:32.500 --> 05:12:33.968
BELIEVE THAT IF WE IF WE
05:12:34.035 --> 05:12:35.636
PROHIBIT THE POLICE FROM LYING
05:12:35.703 --> 05:12:38.072
AND USING DECEPTIVE TACTICS YOU
05:12:38.139 --> 05:12:39.474
KNOW THAT WILL SUBSEQUENTLY MAKE
05:12:39.540 --> 05:12:41.042
THEM USE THE RIGHT TACTICS,
05:12:41.109 --> 05:12:42.944
WHICH WE KNOW THEY'RE CAPABLE OF
05:12:43.010 --> 05:12:45.246
IS 2000 AND 22. THERE IS NO
05:12:45.313 --> 05:12:46.747
REASON FOR NO ONE TO LIE.
05:12:46.814 --> 05:12:48.082
THERE'S NO REASON FOR YOU TO
05:12:48.149 --> 05:12:49.083
MANIPULATE ME OR MANIPULATE
05:12:49.150 --> 05:12:50.785
ANYONE. TO SIGN A CONFESSION
05:12:50.852 --> 05:12:54.222
BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A TEAM OR
05:12:54.288 --> 05:12:57.058
A 25 YEAR OLD IS 34 YEAR OLD
05:12:57.125 --> 05:12:58.793
WOMAN COULD SIGN A CONFESSION
05:12:58.860 --> 05:12:59.627
THAT'S NEVER BEEN IN THIS TYPE
05:12:59.694 --> 05:13:01.596
OF PRESSURE. WHEN YOU'RE YOU'RE
05:13:01.662 --> 05:13:02.697
BEING THREATENED THAT YOU'RE
05:13:02.763 --> 05:13:03.698
GONNA LOSE YOUR KID OR
05:13:03.764 --> 05:13:05.566
SOMETHING. SO THIS IS A REAL
05:13:05.633 --> 05:13:07.602
THING THAT WE DON'T NEED THESE
05:13:07.668 --> 05:13:08.636
TACTICS. WE HAVE TOO MUCH
05:13:08.703 --> 05:13:10.571
TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE CRIMES THE
05:13:10.638 --> 05:13:12.974
RIGHT WAY, AND THE MAIN ISSUE IS
05:13:13.040 --> 05:13:14.575
FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT THE
05:13:14.642 --> 05:13:18.246
COMMUNITY B SAFE AND WE ARE NOT
05:13:18.312 --> 05:13:18.880
PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE
05:13:18.946 --> 05:13:19.680
LOCKING THE WRONG GUYS UP. AND
05:13:19.747 --> 05:13:20.948
LEAVING THESE PREDATORS TO
05:13:21.015 --> 05:13:23.417
CONTINUALLY, UH, TERRORIST THE
05:13:23.484 --> 05:13:24.752
NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THANK YOU.
05:13:24.819 --> 05:13:26.020
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
05:13:26.087 --> 05:13:27.788
SHARE AND AGAIN. THANK YOU.
05:13:27.855 --> 05:13:31.359
THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESSES. UM MR
05:13:31.425 --> 05:13:38.599
WALTER. YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:13:38.666 --> 05:13:42.470
CHAIRMAN OF BRADFORD AND I, IT'S
05:13:42.537 --> 05:13:45.907
AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY. WHAT
05:13:45.973 --> 05:13:47.108
TERRELL JUST DESCRIBED IS,
05:13:47.175 --> 05:13:49.844
UNFORTUNATELY UM, ALL TOO
05:13:49.911 --> 05:13:56.918
COMMON. AND MY PHONE ODYSSEY,
05:13:56.984 --> 05:13:57.785
WHILE DIFFERENT FROM FROM
05:13:57.852 --> 05:14:00.555
CHARLES IS SIMILAR, SIMILAR IN
05:14:00.621 --> 05:14:01.956
THE SENSE THAT I LEARNED
05:14:02.023 --> 05:14:06.194
FIRSTHAND THROUGH THE CASE OF
05:14:06.260 --> 05:14:08.029
ELIAS B, WHICH IS MENTIONED IN
05:14:08.095 --> 05:14:11.299
THE MATERIALS AND WHICH I THINK
05:14:11.365 --> 05:14:13.601
TO A GREAT DEGREE INSPIRED THE
05:14:13.668 --> 05:14:14.702
TECHNIQUES THAT ARE BEING
05:14:14.769 --> 05:14:20.608
BANNED. IN THIS BILL TODAY, UM I
05:14:20.675 --> 05:14:23.611
LEARNED THAT THESE WIDESPREAD
05:14:23.678 --> 05:14:25.680
TECHNIQUES THESE RAPE READ
05:14:25.746 --> 05:14:27.548
TECHNIQUES HAVE NEVER BEEN
05:14:27.615 --> 05:14:31.586
SCIENTIFICALLY. BASED EVER AND
05:14:31.652 --> 05:14:33.721
THEY STILL AREN'T THEY'RE NOT
05:14:33.788 --> 05:14:39.126
EFFECTIVE. THEIR JUNK SCIENCE.
05:14:39.193 --> 05:14:40.995
THEY HAVE BEEN REPUDIATED AGAIN
05:14:41.062 --> 05:14:45.266
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND I HAVE
05:14:45.333 --> 05:14:49.971
TO SAY THAT I AM PROUD AND
05:14:50.037 --> 05:14:52.907
HONORED THAT THE EL DORADO
05:14:52.974 --> 05:14:56.811
DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS STOOD UP
05:14:56.877 --> 05:15:00.214
AND HAS COME FORWARD. AND
05:15:00.281 --> 05:15:01.249
BASICALLY ACKNOWLEDGED WHAT I AM
05:15:01.315 --> 05:15:05.019
SAYING. THAT THESE TECHNIQUES
05:15:05.086 --> 05:15:07.288
MINIMIZATION MAXIMIZATION
05:15:07.355 --> 05:15:09.323
ESPECIALLY USED ON YOUNG PEOPLE
05:15:09.390 --> 05:15:11.659
, BUT EVERYONE ESSENTIALLY ARE
05:15:11.726 --> 05:15:12.193
PSYCHOLOGICALLY COERCIVE
05:15:12.260 --> 05:15:16.264
TECHNIQUES. THAT DO NOT BRING
05:15:16.330 --> 05:15:19.700
OUT THE TRUTH. DO THEY PRODUCE
05:15:19.767 --> 05:15:21.869
CONFESSIONS? YES, THEY DO. DO
05:15:21.936 --> 05:15:27.008
THEY BRING OUT THE TRUTH? WHAT
05:15:27.074 --> 05:15:30.011
WE KNOW IS THEY DON'T YOU KNOW
05:15:30.077 --> 05:15:32.313
25% OF THE TIME. UM AND YOU
05:15:32.380 --> 05:15:34.415
KNOW, VARIOUS AH, SITUATIONS
05:15:34.482 --> 05:15:41.122
WHERE UM. DNA TESTING WAS USED
05:15:41.188 --> 05:15:44.191
TO EXONERATE PEOPLE 25% OF THE
05:15:44.258 --> 05:15:46.260
TIME THAT YOUTH ARE INVOLVED. IT
05:15:46.327 --> 05:15:48.562
WAS BECAUSE OF THESE TECHNIQUES
05:15:48.629 --> 05:15:51.299
. SO UM, I CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE
05:15:51.365 --> 05:15:52.500
THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE. AYE ON
05:15:52.566 --> 05:15:56.904
THIS, AND I THANK YOU, SENATOR
05:15:56.971 --> 05:15:59.240
HOLDEN FOR CARRYING THIS BILL,
05:15:59.307 --> 05:16:01.275
AND I'M PROUD TO BE HERE AND I'M
05:16:01.342 --> 05:16:02.810
PROUD TO BE A CALIFORNIAN. THANK
05:16:02.877 --> 05:16:03.744
YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR HOLDEN.
05:16:03.811 --> 05:16:09.116
UM. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
05:16:09.183 --> 05:16:13.421
SUPPORT OF A B 26 44. FRED
05:16:13.487 --> 05:16:16.223
WILLIAMS. A CELL YOU CAL, ACTION
05:16:16.290 --> 05:16:16.824
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
05:16:16.891 --> 05:16:18.926
YOU. NEXT WITNESS. GREGORY
05:16:18.993 --> 05:16:19.794
FIDDLE WITH INITIATE JUST A
05:16:19.860 --> 05:16:21.529
STRONG SUPPORT AS WELL AS
05:16:21.595 --> 05:16:23.397
EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR SMART
05:16:23.464 --> 05:16:24.465
JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA THANK YOU
05:16:24.532 --> 05:16:28.336
NEXT WITNESS. SO O'CONNELL FROM
05:16:28.402 --> 05:16:29.203
THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
05:16:29.270 --> 05:16:30.705
INNOCENCE PROJECT AND ALSO ON
05:16:30.771 --> 05:16:32.173
BEHALF OF THE LAWYER THAT BIOLA
05:16:32.239 --> 05:16:33.708
PROJECT FOR THE INNOCENCE. WE
05:16:33.774 --> 05:16:34.542
ARE PROUD CO SPONSOR AND URGE
05:16:34.608 --> 05:16:35.609
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
05:16:35.676 --> 05:16:41.816
YOU. BONUS OF A SUNDAY
05:16:41.882 --> 05:16:42.983
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
05:16:43.050 --> 05:16:44.919
INNOCENCE PROJECT, AND WE ARE
05:16:44.985 --> 05:16:47.021
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF HB 26 44.
05:16:47.088 --> 05:16:51.726
THANK YOU. COLIN FORD WITH FRESH
05:16:51.792 --> 05:16:53.494
LIFELINES FOR YOUTH AND STRONG
05:16:53.561 --> 05:16:55.563
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY
05:16:55.629 --> 05:16:57.732
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
05:16:57.798 --> 05:16:59.800
HERE IN CHINA IN HERE, LET'S GO
05:16:59.867 --> 05:17:02.002
TO THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
05:17:02.069 --> 05:17:07.641
AND SUPPORT OF 26 44. YOU WISH
05:17:07.708 --> 05:17:10.010
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF 26 44,
05:17:10.077 --> 05:17:11.879
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME
05:17:11.946 --> 05:17:13.914
WE'RE GOING TO LINE 2 32, PLEASE
05:17:13.981 --> 05:17:18.119
GO AHEAD. LESLIE CALDWELL,
05:17:18.185 --> 05:17:19.920
HOUSTON, REPRESENTING THE
05:17:19.987 --> 05:17:20.955
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SENDERS
05:17:21.021 --> 05:17:21.956
ASSOCIATION, AND SUPPORT THANK
05:17:22.022 --> 05:17:27.461
YOU. LINE. 2 60, PLEASE GO
05:17:27.528 --> 05:17:31.966
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECA
05:17:32.032 --> 05:17:33.734
GONZALEZ WITH THE NATIONAL
05:17:33.801 --> 05:17:34.735
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS,
05:17:34.802 --> 05:17:39.140
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
05:17:39.206 --> 05:17:46.013
FLYING TO 41. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
05:17:46.080 --> 05:17:50.551
241, PLEASE GO AHEAD. JIM
05:17:50.618 --> 05:17:52.753
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
05:17:52.820 --> 05:17:54.221
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
05:17:54.288 --> 05:17:55.322
OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK
05:17:55.389 --> 05:17:59.126
YOU. AND WE'RE GOING TO LEARN TO
05:17:59.193 --> 05:18:02.530
52. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
05:18:02.596 --> 05:18:04.632
AFTERNOON SHARON MEMBERS AS
05:18:04.698 --> 05:18:06.300
LITTLE WITH CALIFORNIA'S FOR
05:18:06.367 --> 05:18:07.902
SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND STRONG
05:18:07.968 --> 05:18:11.639
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND JUST
05:18:11.705 --> 05:18:21.849
MOMENTS JUST CUED UP HERE. OKAY
05:18:21.916 --> 05:18:23.684
WE'LL GO TO LINE 2 64, PLEASE GO
05:18:23.751 --> 05:18:32.059
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS ONE. TO
05:18:32.126 --> 05:18:33.561
60 FOR EUROPE AND PLEASE GO
05:18:33.627 --> 05:18:36.964
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS DON
05:18:37.031 --> 05:18:42.336
WOLFSON AND I'M HEY. YOU KNOW, I
05:18:42.403 --> 05:18:44.271
THINK I'M IN THE IN THE WRONG
05:18:44.338 --> 05:18:46.841
GROUP. I'M TALKING ABOUT 82 644
05:18:46.907 --> 05:18:47.775
. YES EITHER SUPPORT OR
05:18:47.842 --> 05:18:52.513
OPPOSITION. OKAY SUPPORT? YES
05:18:52.580 --> 05:18:55.549
I'M THE MOTHER OF A YOUNG MAN
05:18:55.616 --> 05:18:57.785
WHO SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENT
05:18:57.852 --> 05:18:58.786
WHO WAS SOMEWHAT DECEPTIVELY
05:18:58.853 --> 05:19:02.623
QUESTIONED AT SCHOOL. WITHOUT
05:19:02.690 --> 05:19:04.492
ANY OTHER ADULTS. PRESIDENT. I
05:19:04.558 --> 05:19:05.726
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK
05:19:05.793 --> 05:19:12.032
YOU APPRECIATE IT NEXT WITNESS.
05:19:12.099 --> 05:19:13.534
IN HIS CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE
05:19:13.601 --> 05:19:14.902
ELSE IN Q AT THIS TIME, OKAY,
05:19:14.969 --> 05:19:16.804
NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
05:19:16.871 --> 05:19:17.872
OPPOSITION. ARE THERE WITNESSES
05:19:17.938 --> 05:19:21.542
IN OPPOSITION OF MAYBE 26 44,
05:19:21.609 --> 05:19:23.110
ALRIGHT AND YOU CAN COME UP. WE
05:19:23.177 --> 05:19:25.446
HAVE JULIO DE LEON AND WE HAVE
05:19:25.513 --> 05:19:28.082
DANIELLE SANCHEZ, LISTEN, THIS
05:19:28.148 --> 05:19:30.084
PREMIER WITNESSES, MR DE LEON,
05:19:30.150 --> 05:19:31.485
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU.
05:19:31.552 --> 05:19:32.152
COMMITTEE GOOD MORNING
05:19:32.219 --> 05:19:33.420
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS JULIO
05:19:33.487 --> 05:19:34.321
DELEON AND I'M REPRESENTING THE
05:19:34.388 --> 05:19:35.422
RIVERS ACCOUNT OF SHERIFF'S
05:19:35.489 --> 05:19:37.157
DEPARTMENT. AND SHARED SHARED
05:19:37.224 --> 05:19:37.858
BIANCO. WE HAVE AN OPPOSED
05:19:37.925 --> 05:19:40.127
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION AND BY
05:19:40.194 --> 05:19:41.529
THE WAY TO ADDRESS MR SWIFT HERE
05:19:41.595 --> 05:19:43.430
, UH, IF THE AUTHOR TOOK OR
05:19:43.497 --> 05:19:46.667
TAKES OUR AMENDMENT SOMETHING
05:19:46.734 --> 05:19:48.702
LIKE THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TOA
05:19:48.769 --> 05:19:49.737
JUVENILE EVER AGAIN IN
05:19:49.803 --> 05:19:52.706
CALIFORNIA. UM WE TAKE NO ISSUE
05:19:52.773 --> 05:19:54.341
WITH THE BILLS INTENT ON
05:19:54.408 --> 05:19:54.975
REMOVING THREATENING CONDUCT OR
05:19:55.042 --> 05:19:56.944
BEHAVIOR OR PHYSICAL HARM FROM
05:19:57.011 --> 05:19:58.479
THE INTERROGATION PROCESS. WE
05:19:58.546 --> 05:19:59.713
FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THESE
05:19:59.780 --> 05:20:00.414
TECHNIQUES HAVE NO PLACE IN
05:20:00.481 --> 05:20:01.515
THERE IN THE INTERROGATION
05:20:01.582 --> 05:20:04.485
PROCESS WHATSOEVER. HOWEVER BY
05:20:04.552 --> 05:20:05.619
BLANKETLY, ELIMINATING THE
05:20:05.686 --> 05:20:07.021
ABILITY TO EMPLOY PROVEN AND
05:20:07.087 --> 05:20:08.222
LEGALLY SANCTIONED INVESTIGATIVE
05:20:08.289 --> 05:20:09.857
TECHNIQUES SUCH AS DECEPTION AND
05:20:09.924 --> 05:20:11.492
PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION WITH
05:20:11.559 --> 05:20:14.695
ANY PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 25.
05:20:14.762 --> 05:20:15.996
THIS BILL AIMS TO REMOVE
05:20:16.063 --> 05:20:17.598
INDISPENSABLE TOOLS USED IN OUR
05:20:17.665 --> 05:20:19.733
USING OUR PROFESSION TO SOLVE
05:20:19.800 --> 05:20:20.901
CRIMES AND HOLD CRIMINALS
05:20:20.968 --> 05:20:23.070
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
05:20:23.137 --> 05:20:24.371
THIS BILL RELIES ON FAULTY
05:20:24.438 --> 05:20:26.240
INTERPRETATIONS OF LEGAL
05:20:26.307 --> 05:20:26.774
PRECEDENT AND RESEARCH AND
05:20:26.840 --> 05:20:27.508
WRONGLY ASSUMES THAT EVERY
05:20:27.575 --> 05:20:29.410
PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 25 IS
05:20:29.476 --> 05:20:31.579
NOT MATURE ENOUGH TO WITHSTAND
05:20:31.645 --> 05:20:33.981
TYPICAL POLICE INTERROGATION.
05:20:34.048 --> 05:20:34.848
THE PROPONENTS CITE TWO COURT
05:20:34.915 --> 05:20:38.118
CASES. JDB VERSUS NORTH CAROLINA
05:20:38.185 --> 05:20:39.720
AND IN RATE ELIAS V. AND BOTH
05:20:39.787 --> 05:20:40.921
CITATIONS ARE PROVIDED IN OUR
05:20:40.988 --> 05:20:43.791
OPPOSITION LETTER. IN BOTH CASES
05:20:43.857 --> 05:20:45.159
, THE COURTS RECOGNIZE THE
05:20:45.225 --> 05:20:48.329
SUSCEPTIBILITY. OF YOUTHFUL
05:20:48.395 --> 05:20:49.697
OFFENDERS DURING INTERROGATION
05:20:49.763 --> 05:20:50.864
PROCESS AND FOUND THE TECHNIQUES
05:20:50.931 --> 05:20:52.600
PROPOSED IN THIS BILL TO BE
05:20:52.666 --> 05:20:54.335
INAPPROPRIATE. MORE YOUTHFUL
05:20:54.401 --> 05:20:56.070
OFFENDERS, AND WE AGREE WITH
05:20:56.136 --> 05:20:56.770
THOSE COURT HOLDINGS
05:20:56.837 --> 05:21:00.007
WHOLEHEARTEDLY, HOWEVER, WHAT
05:21:00.074 --> 05:21:01.241
THE PROPONENTS FAILED TO MENTION
05:21:01.308 --> 05:21:02.476
IS THAT BOTH THESE CASES
05:21:02.543 --> 05:21:03.310
INVOLVED 13 YEAR OLD DEFENDANTS,
05:21:03.377 --> 05:21:05.779
NOT PERSONS. BETWEEN THE AGES OF
05:21:05.846 --> 05:21:08.782
18 AND 25. TO EXTEND THESE
05:21:08.849 --> 05:21:09.617
HOLDINGS TO DEFENDANTS OR
05:21:09.683 --> 05:21:11.452
SUSPECTS OVER THE AGE OF 18 IS
05:21:11.518 --> 05:21:12.886
BOTH IMPROPER. AND OBSCURES THE
05:21:12.953 --> 05:21:16.690
COURTS HOLDINGS. THE PROPONENTS
05:21:16.757 --> 05:21:18.859
ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A
05:21:18.926 --> 05:21:19.927
GROWING BODY OF RESEARCH TO
05:21:19.994 --> 05:21:21.328
SUPPORT THEIR POSITION. AND THEY
05:21:21.395 --> 05:21:23.130
START THE RESEARCH ARTICLE BY
05:21:23.197 --> 05:21:24.231
LUNA AND TOTAL JUVENILE FALSE
05:21:24.298 --> 05:21:26.200
CONFESSIONS. THE ARTICLE'S MAIN
05:21:26.266 --> 05:21:28.335
STANCES THAT JUVENILE'S ARE MORE
05:21:28.402 --> 05:21:29.103
LIKELY TO PROVIDE FALSE
05:21:29.169 --> 05:21:30.337
CONFESSIONS TO CRIMES OVER
05:21:30.404 --> 05:21:32.539
ADULTS DURING INTERROGATION. THE
05:21:32.606 --> 05:21:35.009
ARTICLE USED SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF
05:21:35.075 --> 05:21:36.610
JUVENILES THAT WERE EXONERATED
05:21:36.677 --> 05:21:37.811
AFTER FINDING THE POLICE USE
05:21:37.878 --> 05:21:39.680
INAPPROPRIATE TACTICS DURING THE
05:21:39.747 --> 05:21:40.681
INTERROGATIONS, JUST LIKE MR
05:21:40.748 --> 05:21:42.683
SWIFT JUST MENTIONED FOR THE
05:21:42.750 --> 05:21:45.886
PROPONENTS FAIL TO MENTION IS
05:21:45.953 --> 05:21:48.155
THAT ALL THESE CASES CITED IN
05:21:48.222 --> 05:21:50.324
THE RESEARCH ARTICLE EXCEPT FOR
05:21:50.391 --> 05:21:51.125
ONE INVOLVED JUVENILE
05:21:51.191 --> 05:21:54.495
DEFENDANTS, THE OLDEST BEING 16.
05:21:54.561 --> 05:21:56.063
THE ADULT MENTIONED IN THE
05:21:56.130 --> 05:21:58.032
ARTICLE WAS 22, BUT HE HAD A
05:21:58.098 --> 05:22:00.534
MENTAL DISABILITY. THE ARTICLE.
05:22:00.601 --> 05:22:01.935
THE ARTICLE PROPOSAL MANY
05:22:02.002 --> 05:22:03.637
REMEDIES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE,
05:22:03.704 --> 05:22:05.773
AND THEY ALL HAVE ALREADY BEEN
05:22:05.839 --> 05:22:06.974
IMPLEMENTED IN CALIFORNIA
05:22:07.041 --> 05:22:08.575
MIRANDA REQUIREMENTS FOR
05:22:08.642 --> 05:22:10.344
JUVENILE'S REQUIRED COUNSEL TO
05:22:10.411 --> 05:22:11.278
BE PRESENT DURING QUESTIONING IS
05:22:11.345 --> 05:22:13.447
ALREADY REQUIRED IN CALIFORNIA.
05:22:13.514 --> 05:22:14.715
REQUIRING POLICE NOTIFIED
05:22:14.782 --> 05:22:15.783
PARENTS OR GUARDIANS THAT IS
05:22:15.849 --> 05:22:17.651
ALREADY REQUIRED IN CALIFORNIA,
05:22:17.718 --> 05:22:18.952
RECORDING OF INTERVIEWS WITH
05:22:19.019 --> 05:22:20.054
JOURNALS THAT IS ALREADY
05:22:20.120 --> 05:22:22.656
REQUIRED IN CALIFORNIA. SO LIKE
05:22:22.723 --> 05:22:24.158
THE COURT CASES, THIS ARTICLE
05:22:24.224 --> 05:22:25.459
ADDS NOTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE THE
05:22:25.526 --> 05:22:29.229
PROPONENTS CLAIMS. IN OUR LETTER
05:22:29.296 --> 05:22:31.865
, WE PROVIDED TWO AMENDMENTS.
05:22:31.932 --> 05:22:33.967
SUGGESTIONS TO ALIGN WITH THE
05:22:34.034 --> 05:22:34.968
LEGAL PRECEDENT AND RESEARCH
05:22:35.035 --> 05:22:36.837
CITED. WE WILL NOT BE OPPOSED TO
05:22:36.904 --> 05:22:38.005
THE BILL APPLIES TO JUVENILES.
05:22:38.072 --> 05:22:42.976
KEEP IT. TWO JUVENILES, 18 YEARS
05:22:43.043 --> 05:22:44.211
AND OLDER BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
05:22:44.278 --> 05:22:46.113
THE RESEARCH AND THE COURT CASES
05:22:46.180 --> 05:22:49.249
DECIDED. NOT OVER 18. THERE HAS
05:22:49.316 --> 05:22:52.753
BEEN NO EVIDENCE AND NO, UH,
05:22:52.820 --> 05:22:54.188
NOTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE THE FACT
05:22:54.254 --> 05:22:56.490
THAT THIS WILL HELP. ANYONE
05:22:56.557 --> 05:23:00.127
BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 25.
05:23:00.194 --> 05:23:01.729
WE BELIEVE THESE AMENDMENTS ARE
05:23:01.795 --> 05:23:03.997
FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE LAW AND
05:23:04.064 --> 05:23:04.598
CURRENT RESEARCH AND COINCIDE
05:23:04.665 --> 05:23:05.699
WITH THE AUTHOR'S INTENT OF
05:23:05.766 --> 05:23:07.267
PROTECTING THOSE MOST VULNERABLE
05:23:07.334 --> 05:23:09.203
LIKE MR SWIFT WAS AND THOSE
05:23:09.269 --> 05:23:12.039
UNDER 18 YEARS OLD. FOR THESE
05:23:12.106 --> 05:23:14.208
REASONS, THE ROOTS I CAN ASSURE
05:23:14.274 --> 05:23:15.442
DEPARTMENT SHERIFF CHAD MY UNCLE
05:23:15.509 --> 05:23:16.410
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL UNLESS
05:23:16.477 --> 05:23:18.045
AMENDED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
05:23:18.112 --> 05:23:20.380
AND THANK YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:23:20.447 --> 05:23:22.049
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
05:23:22.116 --> 05:23:23.450
WITNESSES HERE IN ROUND 1 12
05:23:23.517 --> 05:23:25.018
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
05:23:25.085 --> 05:23:30.491
OPPOSITION OF 26 44. YOUR NAME
05:23:30.557 --> 05:23:31.492
AND YOUR ORGANIZATION. GOOD
05:23:31.558 --> 05:23:32.860
AFTERNOON CHAIR DANIEL SANCHEZ,
05:23:32.926 --> 05:23:34.027
ON BEHALF OF THE CHIEF PROBATION
05:23:34.094 --> 05:23:36.563
OFFICERS OF CALIFORNIA. I WANT
05:23:36.630 --> 05:23:37.631
TO FIRST THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE
05:23:37.698 --> 05:23:38.766
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDEN FOR THE
05:23:38.832 --> 05:23:41.135
CONVERSATIONS WITH CPAC ON THIS.
05:23:41.201 --> 05:23:43.070
WE'VE SPOKEN REGULARLY AND
05:23:43.137 --> 05:23:45.072
CONTINUE TO DO SO. AND SO, I
05:23:45.139 --> 05:23:47.608
APPRECIATE THAT. WE REALLY
05:23:47.674 --> 05:23:49.109
RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF
05:23:49.176 --> 05:23:50.611
THIS DISCUSSION ON HOW
05:23:50.677 --> 05:23:53.614
INTERROGATIONS ARE CONDUCTED THE
05:23:53.680 --> 05:23:55.149
COORDINATION AND MAKING SURE
05:23:55.215 --> 05:23:57.251
THAT YOU KNOW OF THEIR RIGHT TO
05:23:57.317 --> 05:23:58.452
HAVE COUNSEL AND TO HAVE COUNSEL
05:23:58.519 --> 05:24:00.654
APPOINTED. WHAT WE HAVE CONCERNS
05:24:00.721 --> 05:24:02.956
ON MULTIPLE PARTS OF THE BILL. I
05:24:03.023 --> 05:24:04.558
WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS MY COMMENTS
05:24:04.625 --> 05:24:06.627
ON SECTION TWO TODAY. THIS IS
05:24:06.693 --> 05:24:08.896
THE PART OF THE BILL THAT WOULD
05:24:08.962 --> 05:24:09.530
REQUIRE PROBATION TO NOTIFY THE
05:24:09.596 --> 05:24:10.597
PUBLIC DEFENDER UPON A YOUTH
05:24:10.664 --> 05:24:14.001
COMING INTO JUVENILE HALL. UM
05:24:14.067 --> 05:24:15.803
THIS AS WE SEE IT PREEMPTS
05:24:15.869 --> 05:24:17.037
EXISTING REQUIREMENTS THAT
05:24:17.104 --> 05:24:18.639
PLACES THE AUTHORITY WITH COURTS
05:24:18.705 --> 05:24:20.641
TO APPOINT COUNSEL EXISTING
05:24:20.707 --> 05:24:21.875
WELFARE AND INSTITUTIONS CODE AS
05:24:21.942 --> 05:24:24.011
WELL AS CALIFORNIA. RULE OF
05:24:24.077 --> 05:24:24.845
COURT CURRENTLY PLACES THIS
05:24:24.912 --> 05:24:27.047
AUTHORITY WITH THE COURT TO
05:24:27.114 --> 05:24:28.515
ADVISE A YOUTH OF THEIR RIGHT TO
05:24:28.582 --> 05:24:30.250
HAVE COUNSEL INTO THEN APPOINT
05:24:30.317 --> 05:24:32.019
COUNSEL. SO OUR CONCERNS ARE NOT
05:24:32.085 --> 05:24:34.221
BASED ON THE PREMISE. OF COURSE
05:24:34.288 --> 05:24:35.189
, THAT COUNSEL BE NOTIFIED. WE
05:24:35.255 --> 05:24:36.523
BELIEVE AND SHARE THAT THAT IS
05:24:36.590 --> 05:24:38.826
IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY PROCESS
05:24:38.892 --> 05:24:40.894
. OUR CONCERNS ARE MORE ABOUT
05:24:40.961 --> 05:24:41.895
THE PROCESS IN WHICH THAT
05:24:41.962 --> 05:24:44.164
HAPPENS, UM, WHICH, AS THE BILL
05:24:44.231 --> 05:24:45.399
IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, REQUIRES
05:24:45.465 --> 05:24:46.567
PROBATION TO DO THAT
05:24:46.633 --> 05:24:47.568
NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC
05:24:47.634 --> 05:24:50.871
DEFENDERS. UM AN EXAMPLE OF THIS
05:24:50.938 --> 05:24:52.506
, UM, THAT I THINK MAY BE
05:24:52.573 --> 05:24:54.575
HELPFUL TO SHARE IS THAT WHEN A
05:24:54.641 --> 05:24:56.043
YOUTH COMES INTO A JUVENILE HALL
05:24:56.109 --> 05:24:57.544
, THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE A
05:24:57.611 --> 05:24:59.913
COUNSEL OF RECORD KIND OF LISTED
05:24:59.980 --> 05:25:01.415
THEIR FAMILY MAY HAVE A PRIVATE
05:25:01.481 --> 05:25:02.749
ATTORNEY OR COUNCIL THAT THEY
05:25:02.816 --> 05:25:04.618
USE AND SO AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT
05:25:04.685 --> 05:25:06.987
TO GET IN THE SCENARIO WHERE WE
05:25:07.054 --> 05:25:08.155
ARE NOTICED FIND SOMEBODY AHEAD
05:25:08.222 --> 05:25:10.057
OF WHAT THE COURT PROCESSES SO
05:25:10.123 --> 05:25:11.625
WE BELIEVE THAT NOTIFICATION AN
05:25:11.692 --> 05:25:13.227
APPOINTMENT SHOULD REMAIN WITH
05:25:13.293 --> 05:25:15.128
THE COURTS. WE BELIEVE BOTH
05:25:15.195 --> 05:25:16.630
WELFARE AND INSTITUTIONS, CODE
05:25:16.697 --> 05:25:18.165
AND RULES OF COURT ALREADY
05:25:18.232 --> 05:25:19.666
ADDRESS AND GOVERN THIS PROCESS
05:25:19.733 --> 05:25:21.702
, AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS ARE
05:25:21.768 --> 05:25:22.870
HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN LOOK AT
05:25:22.936 --> 05:25:24.338
REMOVING THAT SECTION OF THE
05:25:24.404 --> 05:25:25.906
BILL AND CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT
05:25:25.973 --> 05:25:27.808
MAYBE A FEW OTHER PARTS OF THE
05:25:27.875 --> 05:25:28.709
BILL AS WELL. BUT FOR THOSE
05:25:28.775 --> 05:25:29.610
REASONS WERE RESPECTFUL
05:25:29.676 --> 05:25:30.611
OPPOSITION TODAY AND LOOK
05:25:30.677 --> 05:25:31.511
FORWARD TO MORE CONVERSATION.
05:25:31.578 --> 05:25:32.479
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
05:25:32.546 --> 05:25:41.889
WITNESS. THIS CHAIR MEMBERS RYAN
05:25:41.955 --> 05:25:42.689
SHERMAN WITH THE RIVERSIDE
05:25:42.756 --> 05:25:43.624
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION. ALSO IN
05:25:43.690 --> 05:25:45.926
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
05:25:45.993 --> 05:25:47.060
ANYONE ELSE HERE AND 1 12
05:25:47.127 --> 05:25:48.161
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
05:25:48.228 --> 05:25:50.764
OPPOSITION. HEARING C. NONE WILL
05:25:50.831 --> 05:25:52.165
GO TO THE PHONE LINES MODERATOR
05:25:52.232 --> 05:25:54.167
, IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO
05:25:54.234 --> 05:25:59.172
TESTIFY AND OPPOSITION 26 44?
05:25:59.239 --> 05:26:00.173
AND IF HE WAS SPEAKING
05:26:00.240 --> 05:26:02.075
OPPOSITION OF 26 44, PLEASE
05:26:02.142 --> 05:26:06.280
PRESS 10 THIS TIME. AND JUST A
05:26:06.346 --> 05:26:08.148
MOMENT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF
05:26:08.215 --> 05:26:23.664
UNION.
05:26:23.730 --> 05:26:25.098
PRESSURE THE DELAY. ONE MORE
05:26:25.165 --> 05:26:34.508
MOMENT. OKAY AND WE'LL GO AND
05:26:34.574 --> 05:26:38.045
FIND 2 61, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
05:26:38.111 --> 05:26:40.647
HELLO THIS IS MATTHEW GRECO ON
05:26:40.714 --> 05:26:41.682
BEHALF OF THE SANDY EGAN'S
05:26:41.748 --> 05:26:44.618
AGAINST CRIME WERE URGING A NO
05:26:44.685 --> 05:26:47.854
VOTE ON A B 26 44. THANK YOU
05:26:47.921 --> 05:26:51.291
NEXT WITNESS. NEXT DEADLINE TO
05:26:51.358 --> 05:26:55.128
29, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
05:26:55.195 --> 05:26:58.031
AFTERNOON ON BEHALF OF THE LOCAL
05:26:58.098 --> 05:26:58.699
AND STATE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
05:26:58.765 --> 05:27:00.233
SENIOR COUNTY POLICE CHIEFS AND
05:27:00.300 --> 05:27:01.802
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION. WE ARE IN
05:27:01.868 --> 05:27:03.737
OPPOSITION TO ABBY TO SIX WORK
05:27:03.804 --> 05:27:07.007
FOR THANK YOU. LINE. 79, PLEASE
05:27:07.074 --> 05:27:11.044
GO AHEAD. THIS IS LAURIE HOFF.
05:27:11.111 --> 05:27:12.346
ON BEHALF OF THE SANDY GO,
05:27:12.412 --> 05:27:13.780
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
05:27:13.847 --> 05:27:14.881
ASSOCIATION OPPOSED WE BELIEVE
05:27:14.948 --> 05:27:15.983
CASE LAW IS ALREADY WELL
05:27:16.049 --> 05:27:17.718
ESTABLISHED IN THIS AREA. THANK
05:27:17.784 --> 05:27:20.253
YOU. BUYING 2 39, PLEASE GO
05:27:20.320 --> 05:27:25.559
AHEAD. MR CHAIR, REMEMBERS
05:27:25.625 --> 05:27:27.894
BRANDON UP ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
05:27:27.961 --> 05:27:28.428
ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF'S
05:27:28.495 --> 05:27:29.029
DEPARTMENT MUST RESPECTFULLY
05:27:29.096 --> 05:27:34.034
OPPOSED. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. WE
05:27:34.101 --> 05:27:36.036
HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q AT THIS
05:27:36.103 --> 05:27:37.904
TIME. THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING IT
05:27:37.971 --> 05:27:39.206
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OF DURING
05:27:39.272 --> 05:27:40.240
QUESTIONS ARE CONCERNED SENATOR
05:27:40.307 --> 05:27:40.907
KAMLAGER. YES, AT THE
05:27:40.974 --> 05:27:42.943
APPROPRIATE TIME. I'M GOING TO
05:27:43.010 --> 05:27:46.046
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE BILL, BUT
05:27:46.113 --> 05:27:48.615
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE
05:27:48.682 --> 05:27:50.917
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IF HE WOULD BE
05:27:50.984 --> 05:27:51.651
WILLING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
05:27:51.718 --> 05:27:52.819
CONCERNS RAISED BY PROBATION
05:27:52.886 --> 05:27:56.757
BECAUSE. I THINK THEY ARE
05:27:56.823 --> 05:27:58.025
LEGITIMATE. YOU KNOW, PIOS, UM
05:27:58.091 --> 05:28:02.896
HAVE. SOMETIMES VERY INTENSE
05:28:02.963 --> 05:28:07.401
WORKLOADS OR CASELOADS MAY BE
05:28:07.467 --> 05:28:10.404
UNSYMPATHETIC TO A PARTICULAR UM
05:28:10.470 --> 05:28:16.009
UM. I GUESS, DEFENDANT AND OR IT
05:28:16.076 --> 05:28:19.646
WOULD SEEM LIKE. THEIR COUNSEL
05:28:19.713 --> 05:28:24.851
WOULD HAVE, UM. WOULD BE MUCH
05:28:24.918 --> 05:28:26.853
BETTER SUITED TO HANDLE THOSE
05:28:26.920 --> 05:28:29.890
THINGS, THEN HAVING PROBATION,
05:28:29.956 --> 05:28:32.492
SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU COULD
05:28:32.559 --> 05:28:36.696
RESPOND TO THAT. WELL, I THINK
05:28:36.763 --> 05:28:37.898
WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS
05:28:37.964 --> 05:28:41.168
WAS THE FACT THAT THERE IS
05:28:41.234 --> 05:28:44.037
HAVING POS IN A POSITION TO
05:28:44.104 --> 05:28:46.606
PROVIDE THE SERVICE AND PROVIDE
05:28:46.673 --> 05:28:47.941
THE INDUSSTEP IN AND THOSE
05:28:48.008 --> 05:28:49.676
SITUATIONS SEEM TO LINE UP
05:28:49.743 --> 05:28:53.447
CORRECTLY IN OUR THINKING. BUT
05:28:53.513 --> 05:28:55.248
WE ARE ALSO INDICATED THAT WERE
05:28:55.315 --> 05:28:57.017
STILL OPEN TO HAVING FURTHER
05:28:57.084 --> 05:28:58.085
CONVERSATIONS AROUND SOME
05:28:58.151 --> 05:28:59.753
ELEMENTS OF THE BILL. AND I
05:28:59.820 --> 05:29:00.854
THINK THAT WE CERTAINLY WILL
05:29:00.921 --> 05:29:02.823
ENTERTAIN. THOSE CONVERSATIONS
05:29:02.889 --> 05:29:06.960
IN THIS PARTICULAR THANK YOU FOR
05:29:07.027 --> 05:29:08.395
THAT. THERE ARE ALSO INSTANCES
05:29:08.462 --> 05:29:11.098
WHERE YOU HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE WHO
05:29:11.164 --> 05:29:11.598
HAVE JUST DEVELOPMENTAL
05:29:11.665 --> 05:29:14.901
DISABILITIES. AND. THEY WOULD
05:29:14.968 --> 05:29:18.738
PROBABLY BE BETTER HELPED. WITH
05:29:18.805 --> 05:29:21.741
HAVING, UM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T A P
05:29:21.808 --> 05:29:23.043
O SORT OF INVOLVED IN THAT WHO
05:29:23.110 --> 05:29:24.744
MIGHT UNDERSTAND THE DISABILITY
05:29:24.811 --> 05:29:27.614
, THE DEGREE TO WHICH, UM, THEY
05:29:27.681 --> 05:29:28.715
UNDERSTAND AND CAN PROCESS AND
05:29:28.782 --> 05:29:32.619
THEN RESPOND. UM BUT I DO THINK
05:29:32.686 --> 05:29:35.088
THAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT
05:29:35.155 --> 05:29:36.223
THE SUPREME COURT IS NOW
05:29:36.289 --> 05:29:37.357
LIMITING THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE
05:29:37.424 --> 05:29:39.659
MIRANDA THAT THIS IS AN
05:29:39.726 --> 05:29:41.628
IMPORTANT STEP FOR US TO TAKE.
05:29:41.695 --> 05:29:43.997
AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S
05:29:44.064 --> 05:29:46.967
A LOT OF BRAGGADOCIOUS SNUS. UM
05:29:47.033 --> 05:29:49.269
IN, UM SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
05:29:49.336 --> 05:29:54.274
AND, UM, I ACTUALLY. DO BELIEVE
05:29:54.341 --> 05:29:57.777
THAT WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND, UH,
05:29:57.844 --> 05:30:00.147
TECHNOLOGY AND SMARTPHONES,
05:30:00.213 --> 05:30:01.948
FOLKS HAVE THE ABILITY TO GATHER
05:30:02.015 --> 05:30:03.316
THE KIND OF NECESSARY EVIDENCE
05:30:03.383 --> 05:30:06.753
THAT THEY NEED. TO ACTUALLY HAVE
05:30:06.820 --> 05:30:09.489
APPROPRIATE AND LEGAL
05:30:09.556 --> 05:30:11.958
INTERROGATION PRACTICES SO YOU
05:30:12.025 --> 05:30:13.627
CAN FIND SO MUCH OF WHAT SOMEONE
05:30:13.693 --> 05:30:15.328
HAS DONE JUST ON THEIR SOCIALS.
05:30:15.395 --> 05:30:17.330
UM AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT
05:30:17.397 --> 05:30:19.966
WASN'T THE UM, THAT WASN'T IN
05:30:20.033 --> 05:30:20.867
PRACTICE YEARS AND YEARS AGO, SO
05:30:20.934 --> 05:30:24.271
I SEE THIS GENTLEMAN. MIGHT WANT
05:30:24.337 --> 05:30:28.642
TO CORRECT ME OR SOMETHING.
05:30:28.708 --> 05:30:30.110
RICHARD BROWN CURVE FROM THE
05:30:30.177 --> 05:30:31.645
PACIFIC JUVENILE DEFENDERS
05:30:31.711 --> 05:30:33.880
CENTER. I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE
05:30:33.947 --> 05:30:34.848
TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT
05:30:34.915 --> 05:30:38.485
WERE RAISED BY SEA PARK. I THINK
05:30:38.552 --> 05:30:43.490
IT IS INCORRECT TO ASSERT THAT
05:30:43.557 --> 05:30:45.825
THIS IS THIS PROBLEM IS ALREADY
05:30:45.892 --> 05:30:47.027
BEING TAKEN CARE OF. I MEAN,
05:30:47.093 --> 05:30:49.362
THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. THE
05:30:49.429 --> 05:30:53.633
ACTUAL CASE IS THAT, UM CHILDREN
05:30:53.700 --> 05:30:57.470
WILL WAIT IN DETENTION FOR DAYS
05:30:57.537 --> 05:30:59.639
BEFORE SEEING A PUBLIC DEFENDER
05:30:59.706 --> 05:31:01.641
. AND SO THIS IS A VERY
05:31:01.708 --> 05:31:05.312
IMPORTANT JUNCTION. UM JUNCTURE
05:31:05.378 --> 05:31:08.348
AT THIS VERY POINT. WHEN A CHILD
05:31:08.415 --> 05:31:10.817
REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE COUNSEL TO
05:31:10.884 --> 05:31:12.719
BE ABLE TO DECIDE HOW TO GO
05:31:12.786 --> 05:31:16.256
FORWARD, SO THIS IS UM YOU KNOW
05:31:16.323 --> 05:31:17.791
, A REALLY VITAL PART OF THIS
05:31:17.857 --> 05:31:19.993
BILL THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED.
05:31:20.060 --> 05:31:23.263
AND I THINK ONE WONDERS WHETHER
05:31:23.330 --> 05:31:27.033
PROBATION IS NOT VERY CONCERNED
05:31:27.100 --> 05:31:28.301
ABOUT WHETHER CHILDREN REALLY
05:31:28.368 --> 05:31:32.005
UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS. WELL I
05:31:32.072 --> 05:31:35.742
MEAN, I TAKE THAT BUT I ALSO I
05:31:35.809 --> 05:31:37.811
MEAN, NOT THE REALITY IS I DON'T
05:31:37.877 --> 05:31:39.346
I DON'T PERSONALLY, I DON'T
05:31:39.412 --> 05:31:40.747
THINK THAT THAT'S PROBATIONS
05:31:40.814 --> 05:31:43.083
ROLE TO DECIPHER THE LAW AND TO
05:31:43.149 --> 05:31:46.286
REPRESENT THE DEFENDANTS, AND SO
05:31:46.353 --> 05:31:47.754
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE TO. AND IF
05:31:47.821 --> 05:31:49.389
THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING
05:31:49.456 --> 05:31:51.224
TO DO, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
05:31:51.291 --> 05:31:52.492
THAT THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY
05:31:52.559 --> 05:31:53.860
RESOURCES AND TRAINING AND
05:31:53.927 --> 05:31:56.796
EXPERTISE TO DO THAT, AND I ALSO
05:31:56.863 --> 05:31:58.098
JUST FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THERE
05:31:58.164 --> 05:31:59.699
ARE STILL A LOT OF COMMUNITIES
05:31:59.766 --> 05:32:00.667
OUT THERE THAT HAVE SOME
05:32:00.734 --> 05:32:03.169
DISTRUST. YOU KNOW OUR MISTRUST
05:32:03.236 --> 05:32:05.472
OF, UM YOU KNOW, P O DEPARTMENT
05:32:05.538 --> 05:32:07.807
, SO IT THERE'S BUYING THAT'S
05:32:07.874 --> 05:32:09.643
REQUIRED ON BOTH SIDES. I
05:32:09.709 --> 05:32:11.645
CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THE POINT,
05:32:11.711 --> 05:32:12.946
WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
05:32:13.013 --> 05:32:13.913
THINGS CAN EITHER BE
05:32:13.980 --> 05:32:16.249
ADJUDICATED. QUICKLY OR THAT
05:32:16.316 --> 05:32:17.484
FOLKS CAN MOVE THROUGH THE
05:32:17.550 --> 05:32:20.253
SYSTEM. UH BECAUSE I ALSO
05:32:20.320 --> 05:32:21.421
BELIEVE THAT TIME CAN ALSO BE
05:32:21.488 --> 05:32:24.991
DISADVANTAGEOUS. SO UM, BUT I
05:32:25.058 --> 05:32:26.660
APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE BECAUSE
05:32:26.726 --> 05:32:27.827
I THINK WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN
05:32:27.894 --> 05:32:32.465
THE SAME THING. YES. OKAY ANY
05:32:32.532 --> 05:32:33.366
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
05:32:33.433 --> 05:32:38.938
CONCERNS? NO. MR HOLDEN, WOULD
05:32:39.005 --> 05:32:43.076
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES. MR
05:32:43.143 --> 05:32:47.213
CHAIR. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT. AS
05:32:47.280 --> 05:32:49.516
WAS MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE
05:32:49.582 --> 05:32:50.817
SPEAKERS. THIS LAW THIS THIS
05:32:50.884 --> 05:32:52.385
PROPOSAL OF THIS BILL? IS REALLY
05:32:52.452 --> 05:32:53.620
JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO PROHIBIT
05:32:53.687 --> 05:32:59.559
LYING. TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT
05:32:59.626 --> 05:33:00.794
CATEGORY, AND WE'VE DEFINED IT
05:33:00.860 --> 05:33:04.097
BY 25. OR YOUNGER PERSON 25 OR
05:33:04.164 --> 05:33:07.167
YOUNGER. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE
05:33:07.233 --> 05:33:10.203
EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT.
05:33:10.270 --> 05:33:11.404
THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPING THAT
05:33:11.471 --> 05:33:12.605
THEY'RE STILL IN KIND OF A
05:33:12.672 --> 05:33:14.207
VULNERABLE PLACE. AND SO THIS
05:33:14.274 --> 05:33:15.608
BILL AGAIN IS VERY SIMPLE IN
05:33:15.675 --> 05:33:17.544
THAT RESPECT, AND I JUST ASK FOR
05:33:17.610 --> 05:33:18.578
YOUR VOTE. YEAH AND I APPRECIATE
05:33:18.645 --> 05:33:20.647
THIS. I DID A SIMILAR MEASURE
05:33:20.714 --> 05:33:22.916
LIVE SHARE THAT DEALT WITH AH!
05:33:22.982 --> 05:33:25.652
INDIVIDUALS UNDER 18 BEING
05:33:25.719 --> 05:33:28.688
INTERROGATED AND TALKED TO PRIOR
05:33:28.755 --> 05:33:30.323
TO SEEKING COUNSEL AND WE KNOW
05:33:30.390 --> 05:33:33.226
HOW FOLKS CAN BE MANIPULATED OUR
05:33:33.293 --> 05:33:35.195
REGARDLESS OF WHAT AGE BUT
05:33:35.261 --> 05:33:36.296
ESPECIALLY OF OUR MINERS, AND I
05:33:36.363 --> 05:33:38.198
MEAN AND I THINK FINE EXAMPLE
05:33:38.264 --> 05:33:41.234
WAS IN THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE.
05:33:41.301 --> 05:33:42.769
THOSE FIVE YOUNG MEN WHO HAD
05:33:42.836 --> 05:33:46.139
THEIR LIVES RUN BY FALSE AND,
05:33:46.206 --> 05:33:50.143
YOU KNOW, LIES INTERROGATION. AH
05:33:50.210 --> 05:33:51.778
AND CONVICTION OF A CRIME THAT
05:33:51.845 --> 05:33:53.913
NONE OF THEM COMMITTED. AND IT'S
05:33:53.980 --> 05:33:55.148
SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HEARD TODAY
05:33:55.215 --> 05:33:57.751
WITH MR SWIFT, SO I THINK ANY
05:33:57.817 --> 05:33:59.853
SAFEGUARDS THAT WE CAN PUT UP TO
05:33:59.919 --> 05:34:01.821
MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE
05:34:01.888 --> 05:34:03.289
DEALT WITH FAIRLY AND
05:34:03.356 --> 05:34:05.191
APPROPRIATE MANNER AND NOT
05:34:05.258 --> 05:34:07.293
INTIMIDATED BECAUSE I DON'T CARE
05:34:07.360 --> 05:34:09.596
WHAT AGE YOU ARE IN A ROOM WITH
05:34:09.662 --> 05:34:11.798
SOMEONE WOULD HAVE DONE IN THE
05:34:11.865 --> 05:34:12.866
BADGES INTIMIDATING AND ALL YOU
05:34:12.932 --> 05:34:14.868
HAVE TO DO IS TURN ON. DATELINE
05:34:14.934 --> 05:34:16.569
OR 2020, AND IT'S SIMILAR SHOWS
05:34:16.636 --> 05:34:20.173
LIKE THIS EVERY MONTH, IF NOT
05:34:20.240 --> 05:34:23.309
WEEKLY, ON TV OF INDIVIDUALS WHO
05:34:23.376 --> 05:34:24.511
WERE ABLE TO ORDERS OF FALSE
05:34:24.577 --> 05:34:28.047
CONFECTION BECAUSE THEY WERE
05:34:28.114 --> 05:34:29.816
SCARED OR THEY WERE UNEDUCATED,
05:34:29.883 --> 05:34:33.586
OR THEY HAD SOME TYPE OF MENTAL
05:34:33.653 --> 05:34:35.288
ISSUE, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS JUST
05:34:35.355 --> 05:34:36.556
TO SHOW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
05:34:36.623 --> 05:34:39.325
ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO ADMITTED
05:34:39.392 --> 05:34:41.294
TO A CRIME. AND ONCE ALL THE
05:34:41.361 --> 05:34:43.129
WORK WAS DONE HAD NOTHING TO DO
05:34:43.196 --> 05:34:44.697
WITH THAT. INDIVIDUAL THAT ONLY
05:34:44.764 --> 05:34:50.637
UH ADMITTED TO IT. SIGNED
05:34:50.703 --> 05:34:52.138
AFFIDAVIT OF CONFECTION FORM AND
05:34:52.205 --> 05:34:54.040
WIDER, YOU KNOW, SPENDING
05:34:54.107 --> 05:34:56.042
DECADES BEHIND PRISON ON A CRIME
05:34:56.109 --> 05:34:57.076
HE DIDN'T COMMIT. SO I RESPECT
05:34:57.143 --> 05:35:00.013
THIS. WE DO HAVE A DO PASS TO
05:35:00.079 --> 05:35:04.651
APPROPRIATIONS. AND WE HAVE A
05:35:04.717 --> 05:35:08.788
MOTION BY SENATOR KAMLAGER AND.
05:35:08.855 --> 05:35:09.956
COUNCIL, PLEASE. COLORADO ON A B
05:35:10.023 --> 05:35:15.328
26 44. MAYBE 26 44 BRADFORD
05:35:15.395 --> 05:35:19.432
BRADFORD I AT COBO. TROW BUGNO.
05:35:19.499 --> 05:35:20.433
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER, AYE SKINNER
05:35:20.500 --> 05:35:28.942
WIENER. WE HAVE TWO VOTES WILL
05:35:29.008 --> 05:35:32.178
LEAVE THAT ITEM OPEN FOR ABSENT
05:35:32.245 --> 05:35:35.482
MEMBERS, AND NEXT UP IS MR JONES
05:35:35.548 --> 05:35:56.135
SAWYER. WE HAVE 24 2043.
05:36:03.877 --> 05:36:05.245
GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU.
05:36:05.311 --> 05:36:07.580
CHAIR MEMBERS. I WANT TO FIRST
05:36:07.647 --> 05:36:08.581
START BY ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
05:36:08.648 --> 05:36:10.550
AMENDMENTS, WHICH ALLOW BAIL
05:36:10.617 --> 05:36:14.053
BOND AGENTS AND 30 INSURERS TO
05:36:14.120 --> 05:36:15.255
APPOINT BAIL FUGITIVE RECOVERY
05:36:15.321 --> 05:36:19.058
AGENTS. COLLOQUIALLY CALLED
05:36:19.125 --> 05:36:20.927
BOUNDING HUNTERS, AS WELL AS
05:36:20.994 --> 05:36:23.029
OTHER TECHNICAL CLEANUP. A B
05:36:23.096 --> 05:36:25.498
2043 LIVE CALIFORNIA WITH 18
05:36:25.565 --> 05:36:27.767
OTHER STATES BY REQUIRING THEIR
05:36:27.834 --> 05:36:28.835
RECOVERY AGENTS TO BECOME
05:36:28.902 --> 05:36:31.304
LICENSED BY THE STATE. CURRENT
05:36:31.371 --> 05:36:32.305
LAW AND RECOVERY AGENCIES
05:36:32.372 --> 05:36:34.340
LIMITED TO EDUCATION NOTICE AND
05:36:34.407 --> 05:36:36.609
CONDUCT STANDARDS, WHICH IS
05:36:36.676 --> 05:36:38.011
UNVERIFIABLE, CONSIDERING
05:36:38.077 --> 05:36:39.045
THERE'S A LACK OF IN HOUSE
05:36:39.112 --> 05:36:42.315
SUPERVISION FROM INDUSTRY WHEN
05:36:42.382 --> 05:36:43.816
HIRING AND MANAGING RECOVERY
05:36:43.883 --> 05:36:45.318
AGENTS FURTHER WHEN THE RECOVERY
05:36:45.385 --> 05:36:46.886
AGENT IS TERMINATED FOR
05:36:46.953 --> 05:36:48.821
VIOLATING CALIFORNIA LAW, THERE
05:36:48.888 --> 05:36:50.089
IS NO IT ATTRACTS SUCH
05:36:50.156 --> 05:36:51.391
TERMINATION DOES THESE
05:36:51.457 --> 05:36:52.392
INDIVIDUALS CAN BE HIRED BY A
05:36:52.458 --> 05:36:55.194
SEPARATE COMPANY? THE CURRENT
05:36:55.261 --> 05:36:58.197
ISSUE WE FACE IS NO AND THERE IS
05:36:58.264 --> 05:37:00.266
THERE WITH FACES. NO ENTITY IS
05:37:00.333 --> 05:37:02.068
CHARGED WITH OVERSIGHT. AS SUCH
05:37:02.135 --> 05:37:03.570
, NEARLY ALL ENFORCEMENT OCCURS
05:37:03.636 --> 05:37:05.672
AFTER THE FACT BECAUSE RECOVERY
05:37:05.738 --> 05:37:06.739
AGENTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BILL
05:37:06.806 --> 05:37:08.808
BOND TRANSACTIONS. THE
05:37:08.875 --> 05:37:10.076
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
05:37:10.143 --> 05:37:12.312
INSURANCE D. I HAS BECOME THEIR
05:37:12.378 --> 05:37:14.547
DEFACTO WATCHDOG, DESPITE THE
05:37:14.614 --> 05:37:15.715
FACT THESE AGENTS ARE NOT
05:37:15.782 --> 05:37:17.884
LICENSED AND DO NOT PAY FEES TO
05:37:17.951 --> 05:37:19.052
SEE THE EYE RECOVERY AGENTS
05:37:19.118 --> 05:37:21.988
STRONG. FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO
05:37:22.055 --> 05:37:23.590
MAKE ARRESTS, WITH THEIR ABILITY
05:37:23.656 --> 05:37:24.657
TO SELF REGULATE FAILS TO
05:37:24.724 --> 05:37:28.127
PROTECT THE PUBLIC. EXCUSE ME
05:37:28.194 --> 05:37:29.462
FROM A JOB THAT MIMICS LAW
05:37:29.529 --> 05:37:31.531
ENFORCEMENT AND SUBJECTS PEOPLE
05:37:31.598 --> 05:37:32.465
TOO DANGEROUS AND TRAUMATIC
05:37:32.532 --> 05:37:34.934
SITUATIONS. IN APRIL 2021 PALM
05:37:35.001 --> 05:37:36.002
SPRINGS RESIDENT DAVIS BAND WAS
05:37:36.069 --> 05:37:39.539
SHOT. MM KILLED BY A RECOVERY
05:37:39.606 --> 05:37:41.674
AGENT DESPITE DESPITE THERE
05:37:41.741 --> 05:37:43.576
BEING NO WARRANTS ISSUED FOR HIS
05:37:43.643 --> 05:37:45.612
ARREST, NOR HAS SPANNED, FAILED
05:37:45.678 --> 05:37:47.814
TO APPEAR IN COURT. TO MAKE
05:37:47.880 --> 05:37:49.048
MATTERS WORSE, RECOVERY AGENTS
05:37:49.115 --> 05:37:50.149
SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DOING
05:37:50.216 --> 05:37:51.884
RECOVERY WORK. NOR SHOULD HAVE
05:37:51.951 --> 05:37:54.020
BEEN IN POSSESSION OF A FIREARM
05:37:54.087 --> 05:37:55.421
IN THE FIRST PLACE DUE TO HIS
05:37:55.488 --> 05:37:57.190
PRIOR FELONY CONVICTIONS. THIS
05:37:57.256 --> 05:37:58.825
TRAGIC KILLING COULD HAVE BEEN
05:37:58.891 --> 05:38:01.227
PREVENTED HAD THERE BEEN MORE
05:38:01.294 --> 05:38:02.462
SUPERVISION AND PRE EMPLOYMENT
05:38:02.528 --> 05:38:03.763
SCREENING FROM THOSE WHO HIRED
05:38:03.830 --> 05:38:05.698
THE RECOVERY AGENT AS WELL AS
05:38:05.765 --> 05:38:07.934
HAD THERE BEEN AN ENTITY TO
05:38:08.001 --> 05:38:10.003
VERIFY WHO ALWAYS OPERATING IN
05:38:10.069 --> 05:38:12.939
OUR STATE MEMBERS FOR OUR
05:38:13.006 --> 05:38:14.007
FOREIGN OCCUPATION HAS GIVEN
05:38:14.073 --> 05:38:16.009
GREATER AUTHORITY THAN LAW
05:38:16.075 --> 05:38:17.377
ENFORCEMENT BUT NOT REQUIRING A
05:38:17.443 --> 05:38:18.511
WARRANT TO ARREST AND ENTER
05:38:18.578 --> 05:38:21.214
SOMEONE'S HOME. ENHANCED
05:38:21.280 --> 05:38:24.217
STANDARDS ARE CRUCIAL. A B 2043
05:38:24.283 --> 05:38:25.785
WILL NOT ONLY PROVIDE MUCH
05:38:25.852 --> 05:38:26.953
NEEDED OVERSIGHT OF THIS
05:38:27.020 --> 05:38:29.088
OCCUPATION THAT HAS LONG GONE
05:38:29.155 --> 05:38:30.089
UNREGULATED, BUT WILL ALSO
05:38:30.156 --> 05:38:32.125
PROVIDE GREATER CONSUMER
05:38:32.191 --> 05:38:34.227
PROTECTIONS FOR HARMED MEMBERS
05:38:34.293 --> 05:38:36.663
OF THE PUBLIC WITH ME VIA THAT'S
05:38:36.729 --> 05:38:38.431
TELECONFERENCE LINE TO SPEAK IN
05:38:38.498 --> 05:38:41.200
SUPPORT IS KENDRA ZOELLER.
05:38:41.267 --> 05:38:43.536
DEPUTY LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR ON
05:38:43.603 --> 05:38:45.638
BEHALF OF THE BILL'S SPONSOR,
05:38:45.705 --> 05:38:47.240
INSURANCE COMMISSIONER RICARDO
05:38:47.306 --> 05:38:48.441
LOWER. THANK YOU RESPECTFULLY
05:38:48.508 --> 05:38:54.247
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. WITNESS
05:38:54.313 --> 05:38:59.752
SANDRA ZOELLER SHE ONLINE. YES,
05:38:59.819 --> 05:39:00.953
THANK CARE. SHE MAY BEGIN YOUR
05:39:01.020 --> 05:39:05.024
TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. GOOD
05:39:05.091 --> 05:39:06.592
AFTERNOON, KENDRA DOLLAR HERE ON
05:39:06.659 --> 05:39:08.327
BEHALF OF INSURANCE COMMISSIONER
05:39:08.394 --> 05:39:10.329
RICARDO LARA AND THE CALIFORNIA
05:39:10.396 --> 05:39:12.065
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE. AS THE
05:39:12.131 --> 05:39:13.433
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL, WE WOULD
05:39:13.499 --> 05:39:15.268
LIKE TO THANK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
05:39:15.334 --> 05:39:16.335
JONES. SO I HURT FOR HIS
05:39:16.402 --> 05:39:18.071
LEADERSHIP IN AUTHORING THIS
05:39:18.137 --> 05:39:19.505
MEASURE AS WELL AS THE CHAIR AND
05:39:19.572 --> 05:39:21.107
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
05:39:21.174 --> 05:39:21.974
EFFORTS, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED
05:39:22.041 --> 05:39:23.643
AMENDMENTS JUST ACCEPTED BY THE
05:39:23.710 --> 05:39:27.980
AUTHOR. 82 043 ROOT CREATES THE
05:39:28.047 --> 05:39:29.582
FIRST BAIL FUGITIVE RECOVERY
05:39:29.649 --> 05:39:31.818
AGENT LICENSE IN CALIFORNIA,
05:39:31.884 --> 05:39:33.920
THEREBY BRINGING LONG OVERDUE
05:39:33.986 --> 05:39:35.655
REGULATORY OVERSIGHT TO THE BAIL
05:39:35.722 --> 05:39:38.124
BONDS INDUSTRY AND ALIGN OUR
05:39:38.191 --> 05:39:39.559
STATE WITH 18 OTHER STATES. THAT
05:39:39.625 --> 05:39:41.561
HAVE EXISTING MANDATORY LIFE
05:39:41.627 --> 05:39:42.628
INSURER IN PLACE FOR BOUNTY
05:39:42.695 --> 05:39:44.630
HUNTERS TODAY BECAUSE THE
05:39:44.697 --> 05:39:46.065
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE
05:39:46.132 --> 05:39:47.734
REGULATES BAIL BONDS AND BILLS
05:39:47.800 --> 05:39:49.235
AGENTS. WE OFTEN RECEIVED
05:39:49.302 --> 05:39:49.769
COMPLAINTS INVOLVING BAIL
05:39:49.836 --> 05:39:53.539
FUGITIVE RECOVERY PERSON HOWEVER
05:39:53.606 --> 05:39:54.540
, SINCE WE ARE NOT THERE,
05:39:54.607 --> 05:39:56.008
REGULATORS THERE IS LITTLE
05:39:56.075 --> 05:39:58.678
LITTLE WE CAN DO RECENT TRAGIC
05:39:58.745 --> 05:40:00.213
INCIDENTS INVOLVING BOUNTY
05:40:00.279 --> 05:40:01.681
HUNTERS TRYING TO APPREHEND
05:40:01.748 --> 05:40:03.416
THOSE WHO ALLEGEDLY JUMPED BAIL
05:40:03.483 --> 05:40:04.650
HAVE PUSHED THE NEED FOR MORE
05:40:04.717 --> 05:40:05.818
DEPARTMENT OVERSIGHT. BOUNTY
05:40:05.885 --> 05:40:09.021
HUNTERS TO THE FOREFRONT. WE
05:40:09.088 --> 05:40:11.057
HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS THAT
05:40:11.124 --> 05:40:11.858
ALLOWING THIS INDUSTRY THE SELF
05:40:11.924 --> 05:40:13.626
REGULATE IS UNACCEPTABLE AND THE
05:40:13.693 --> 05:40:14.694
STATUS QUO HAS NEVER BEEN
05:40:14.761 --> 05:40:17.296
ENOUGH. REQUIRING BAIL FUGITIVE
05:40:17.363 --> 05:40:19.065
RECOVERY PERSON TO FIRST OBTAIN
05:40:19.132 --> 05:40:21.033
A LICENSE PRIOR TO CONDUCTING
05:40:21.100 --> 05:40:22.635
BUSINESS IN THIS STATE WOULD
05:40:22.702 --> 05:40:24.604
HELP CURTAIL RECKLESS PURSUITS
05:40:24.670 --> 05:40:26.072
AND APPREHENSIONS OF OUR MOST
05:40:26.139 --> 05:40:28.574
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, AS WELL
05:40:28.641 --> 05:40:30.076
AS ELIMINATE OUT OF STATE FAILED
05:40:30.143 --> 05:40:31.711
FUTURES OF RECOVERY AGENTS FROM
05:40:31.778 --> 05:40:33.346
WORKING IN THIS STATE UNLESS
05:40:33.412 --> 05:40:34.514
THEY FIRST MEET OUR STANDARDS
05:40:34.580 --> 05:40:37.183
AND OBTAIN A CALIFORNIA LICENSE.
05:40:37.250 --> 05:40:38.651
IN ADDITION, THEY'LL FUGITIVE
05:40:38.718 --> 05:40:40.286
RECOVERY AGENTS WOULD HAVE TO
05:40:40.353 --> 05:40:41.754
PASS BACKGROUND CHECKS DONE BY
05:40:41.821 --> 05:40:43.256
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
05:40:43.322 --> 05:40:44.657
JUSTICE AND THE FEDERAL BUREAU
05:40:44.724 --> 05:40:46.759
OF INVESTIGATION PRIOR TO
05:40:46.826 --> 05:40:48.461
LICENSE SURE, AND THEY WOULD BE
05:40:48.528 --> 05:40:49.562
REQUIRED TO CARRY LIABILITY
05:40:49.629 --> 05:40:51.531
INSURANCE. WHICH WOULD PROVIDE
05:40:51.597 --> 05:40:53.432
HARMED CONSUMERS AND ESSENTIAL
05:40:53.499 --> 05:40:55.868
AVENUE TO COLLECT DAMAGES. A B
05:40:55.935 --> 05:40:58.905
2043 IS NEEDED NOW TO RAISE THE
05:40:58.971 --> 05:40:59.772
STANDARD FOR BAIL. FUGITIVE
05:40:59.839 --> 05:41:01.307
RECOVERY PERSON TO APPREHEND
05:41:01.374 --> 05:41:03.209
FAILED FUGITIVES AS WELL AS
05:41:03.276 --> 05:41:06.145
CHINA LIGHT ON THIS INDUSTRY. IT
05:41:06.212 --> 05:41:07.380
WILL ALSO STRENGTHEN THE
05:41:07.446 --> 05:41:09.015
DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO PROTECT
05:41:09.081 --> 05:41:10.750
THE PUBLIC AND PREVENT FUTURE
05:41:10.817 --> 05:41:12.752
VIOLATIONS OF LAW THAT THREATENS
05:41:12.819 --> 05:41:13.920
PUBLIC SAFETY. I RESPECTFULLY
05:41:13.986 --> 05:41:15.788
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE ON THIS
05:41:15.855 --> 05:41:20.493
MEASURE. THANK YOU. QUÊ NOW DO
05:41:20.560 --> 05:41:23.095
WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES HERE IN
05:41:23.162 --> 05:41:24.363
THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
05:41:24.430 --> 05:41:28.301
SUPPORT OF 2043? MR CHAIRMAN
05:41:28.367 --> 05:41:29.836
MEMBERS DAN PHYLLIS OTTO ON
05:41:29.902 --> 05:41:30.903
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
05:41:30.970 --> 05:41:32.305
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
05:41:32.371 --> 05:41:34.040
SUPPORT THANK YOU SEEING NO
05:41:34.106 --> 05:41:36.242
OTHER WITNESSES HERE AND WE'RE
05:41:36.309 --> 05:41:38.244
ON 1 12. LET'S GO TO THE PHONE
05:41:38.311 --> 05:41:42.448
LINES MODERATOR. AND WE'LL START
05:41:42.515 --> 05:41:50.556
WITH. IF YOU WISH THAT HOW MANY
05:41:50.623 --> 05:41:51.858
OF THIS QUESTION ONE AND ZERO?
05:41:51.924 --> 05:41:53.726
WE'LL START WITH LYING TO 32.
05:41:53.793 --> 05:41:56.562
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
05:41:56.629 --> 05:41:58.764
, LASTLY CALLED LOVE HOUSTON FOR
05:41:58.831 --> 05:42:00.199
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
05:42:00.266 --> 05:42:01.133
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
05:42:01.200 --> 05:42:06.105
YOU NEXT WITNESS. AND JUST ONE
05:42:06.172 --> 05:42:15.081
MOMENT OR GRAB THE LINE NUMBER.
05:42:15.147 --> 05:42:16.782
OKAY WE'RE GONNA LINE TO 68.
05:42:16.849 --> 05:42:20.720
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO RIO SHARP
05:42:20.786 --> 05:42:22.288
WITH THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE FOR
05:42:22.355 --> 05:42:23.522
CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE SAN
05:42:23.589 --> 05:42:26.225
FRANCISCO BAY AREA. WE RUN THE
05:42:26.292 --> 05:42:27.793
ONLY BILL CLINIC IN THE STATE
05:42:27.860 --> 05:42:29.762
AND WE URGE YOU TO VOTE I ON
05:42:29.829 --> 05:42:37.570
2043. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. MR
05:42:37.637 --> 05:42:39.605
CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
05:42:39.672 --> 05:42:40.773
CUBA AT THIS TIME. OKAY NOW
05:42:40.840 --> 05:42:42.408
WE'RE GONNA GO TO OPPOSITION.
05:42:42.475 --> 05:42:44.277
ARE THERE ANYONE HERE IN THIS
05:42:44.343 --> 05:42:45.544
ROOM, WHICH COULDN'T TESTIFY
05:42:45.611 --> 05:42:48.481
AGAINST 2043? LET ME GO RIGHT
05:42:48.547 --> 05:42:51.384
AHEAD. KATHERINE BRANDENBURG
05:42:51.450 --> 05:42:53.019
WITH THE BRANDENBURG GROUP. I
05:42:53.085 --> 05:42:54.186
REPRESENT THE AMERICAN BILL
05:42:54.253 --> 05:42:55.354
COALITION AND WE ARE REMOVING
05:42:55.421 --> 05:42:56.355
pOUR OPPOSITION WITH THE
05:42:56.422 --> 05:42:58.357
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN HERE
05:42:58.424 --> 05:43:01.127
AND COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. I
05:43:01.193 --> 05:43:03.396
MEAN, I GUESS THEN ESCAMILLA IS
05:43:03.462 --> 05:43:09.235
NO LONGER TESTIFYING AS WELL.
05:43:09.302 --> 05:43:11.370
HELLO. I AM. OKAY SO WE HAVE HIM
05:43:11.437 --> 05:43:12.571
ON THE LINE. GO RIGHT AHEAD.
05:43:12.638 --> 05:43:16.709
YES. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
05:43:16.776 --> 05:43:17.677
CHAIR. BRADFORD AND MEMBERS OF
05:43:17.743 --> 05:43:19.745
THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS DAN
05:43:19.812 --> 05:43:21.647
ESTONIA. I'M A GRADUATE OF USC.
05:43:21.714 --> 05:43:22.782
THE CHAIRMAN FOWLER SCHOOL OF
05:43:22.848 --> 05:43:23.883
LAW IN THE ORANGE COUNTY
05:43:23.950 --> 05:43:25.217
SHERIFF'S ACADEMY. I'M ALSO
05:43:25.284 --> 05:43:26.786
LICENSED BAIL AGENT AND HAVE
05:43:26.852 --> 05:43:28.287
WORKED AS A CERTIFIED FUGITIVE
05:43:28.354 --> 05:43:30.389
RECOVERY AGENT FOR 15 YEARS. I'M
05:43:30.456 --> 05:43:31.958
SPEAKING TO OPPOSE THE $1
05:43:32.024 --> 05:43:32.925
MILLION LIABILITY INSURANCE
05:43:32.992 --> 05:43:36.529
REQUIREMENT OF A B 2043. WHICH I
05:43:36.595 --> 05:43:37.997
BELIEVE IS MISGUIDED AND WILL
05:43:38.064 --> 05:43:39.465
NOT SERVE THE CONSUMER
05:43:39.532 --> 05:43:41.067
PROTECTION PURPOSE INTENDED BY
05:43:41.133 --> 05:43:43.102
THE AUTHOR. FIRST THERE HAS NOT
05:43:43.169 --> 05:43:43.669
BEEN A SINGLE CASE,
05:43:43.736 --> 05:43:45.504
DEMONSTRATING THE NEED FOR AN
05:43:45.571 --> 05:43:47.039
INSURANCE POLICY PROTECTING THE
05:43:47.106 --> 05:43:48.174
CONSUMER FOR HARM BY A PROPERLY
05:43:48.240 --> 05:43:49.241
CERTIFIED FUGITIVE RECOVERY
05:43:49.308 --> 05:43:52.011
AGENT. THOSE CASES WHICH HAVE
05:43:52.078 --> 05:43:53.713
MADE THE NEWS IN OUR STATE HALL
05:43:53.779 --> 05:43:55.481
INVOLVED PERSONS IMPERSONATING
05:43:55.548 --> 05:43:56.916
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENTS OR
05:43:56.983 --> 05:43:57.984
LACKING THE PROPER
05:43:58.050 --> 05:43:59.385
QUALIFICATIONS UNDER EXISTING
05:43:59.452 --> 05:44:01.253
LAW. INCIDENTALLY THERE'S NO LAW
05:44:01.320 --> 05:44:02.355
PROHIBITING THE IMPERSONATION OF
05:44:02.421 --> 05:44:04.924
THE FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENT. THE
05:44:04.991 --> 05:44:06.258
PALM SPRINGS CASE, WHICH
05:44:06.325 --> 05:44:07.593
PROMPTED THIS LEGISLATION
05:44:07.660 --> 05:44:09.595
REPORTEDLY INVOLVED FELON
05:44:09.662 --> 05:44:11.497
WORKING ILLEGALLY AS A FUGITIVE
05:44:11.564 --> 05:44:14.567
RECOVERY AGENT. NEXT MANY OF OUR
05:44:14.633 --> 05:44:16.168
FUGITIVES ARE CAREER CRIMINALS
05:44:16.235 --> 05:44:17.670
ATTEMPTING THESE FUGITIVES AND
05:44:17.737 --> 05:44:18.904
THEIR FAMILIES WITH THE PROSPECT
05:44:18.971 --> 05:44:20.639
OF A $1 MILLION LOTTERY PRIZE.
05:44:20.706 --> 05:44:23.009
GET THEIR DOORS BROKEN DOWN IN A
05:44:23.075 --> 05:44:24.744
FORCED ENTRY WILL CREATE A FLOOD
05:44:24.810 --> 05:44:26.612
OF FRIVOLOUS LITIGATION. I'VE
05:44:26.679 --> 05:44:28.381
BEEN THE SUBJECT PERSONALLY OF
05:44:28.447 --> 05:44:29.448
FOUR FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS BY
05:44:29.515 --> 05:44:30.616
FAMILY MEMBERS OF FUGITIVES
05:44:30.683 --> 05:44:33.486
DURING MY 15 YEAR CAREER. I HAVE
05:44:33.552 --> 05:44:34.954
ACTED AS MY OWN ATTORNEY ON EACH
05:44:35.021 --> 05:44:36.555
OF THESE AND HAVE PREVAILED ON
05:44:36.622 --> 05:44:38.624
EACH, INCLUDING AFTER A JURY
05:44:38.691 --> 05:44:40.393
TRIAL AGAINST AN EXPERIENCE OF
05:44:40.459 --> 05:44:41.627
VOTER ATTORNEY FROM SAN
05:44:41.694 --> 05:44:43.429
FRANCISCO, REQUIRING A $1
05:44:43.496 --> 05:44:44.697
MILLION INSURANCE POLICY. A
05:44:44.764 --> 05:44:45.431
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENTS
05:44:45.498 --> 05:44:46.298
WOULDN'T BE INCENTIVIZED
05:44:46.365 --> 05:44:49.235
FRIVOLOUS LITIGATION. OF WHICH
05:44:49.301 --> 05:44:51.303
THE STATE HAS ENOUGH ALREADY,
05:44:51.370 --> 05:44:53.272
FINALLY, OR CONSUMER PROTECTION
05:44:53.339 --> 05:44:54.774
HAS BEEN AUTHORS BASIS FOR THE
05:44:54.840 --> 05:44:56.742
INSURANCE POLICY. CALIFORNIA
05:44:56.809 --> 05:44:59.412
INSURANCE SECTION 5 33 PROHIBITS
05:44:59.478 --> 05:45:00.413
INSURANCE COMPANIES FROM PAYING
05:45:00.479 --> 05:45:03.516
ON INTENTIONAL TORTS. SUCH AS
05:45:03.582 --> 05:45:05.885
TRESPASS. ALSO PRESIDENT ASSAULT
05:45:05.951 --> 05:45:08.287
, BATTERY AND DEFAMATION. THESE
05:45:08.354 --> 05:45:09.688
ARE THE CAUSES OF ACTION
05:45:09.755 --> 05:45:10.389
COMMONLY BROUGHT AGAINST
05:45:10.456 --> 05:45:11.857
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENTS, NO
05:45:11.924 --> 05:45:12.691
LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY CAN
05:45:12.758 --> 05:45:13.526
LAWFULLY COURAGE. USE
05:45:13.592 --> 05:45:16.228
INTENTIONAL TOWARDS WHICH MAKES
05:45:16.295 --> 05:45:18.230
THE INSURANCE MISLEADING. THOSE
05:45:18.297 --> 05:45:20.332
TWO AGENTS WHO WILL BE REQUIRED
05:45:20.399 --> 05:45:21.700
TO PURCHASE THE POLICY AND TO
05:45:21.767 --> 05:45:23.135
THOSE MAKING CLAIMS AGAINST IT
05:45:23.202 --> 05:45:24.470
FOR THESE REASONS, AND
05:45:24.537 --> 05:45:26.472
ESPECIALLY TOAVOID REQUIRING
05:45:26.539 --> 05:45:27.873
AND INSURANCE POLICY THAT IS
05:45:27.940 --> 05:45:29.542
ILLUSORY AND WILL MISLEAD THE
05:45:29.608 --> 05:45:31.877
PUBLIC IRISH COMMITTEE TO REJECT
05:45:31.944 --> 05:45:33.245
THE BILL IN IS CURRENT FORM.
05:45:33.312 --> 05:45:35.314
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY
05:45:35.381 --> 05:45:37.249
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM 1 12
05:45:37.316 --> 05:45:39.385
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
05:45:39.452 --> 05:45:42.488
TO A V 2043 C NONE MODERATORS.
05:45:42.555 --> 05:45:43.556
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES FOR
05:45:43.622 --> 05:45:48.894
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. AND IF
05:45:48.961 --> 05:45:49.728
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
05:45:49.795 --> 05:45:51.864
OF A B 2043 PLEASE TRUST ONE
05:45:51.931 --> 05:46:03.309
THAN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
05:46:03.375 --> 05:46:04.443
AND JUST MOMENTS WHILE TOGETHER
05:46:04.510 --> 05:46:20.759
WITH MY NUMBER.
05:46:26.198 --> 05:46:27.333
OKAY, WE'LL GO WITH LINE TO 71.
05:46:27.399 --> 05:46:33.973
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ROB DICK FROM
05:46:34.039 --> 05:46:35.374
BELL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION OR AN
05:46:35.441 --> 05:46:43.649
OPPOSITION HAS WRITTEN RIGHT? IN
05:46:43.716 --> 05:46:45.684
MISS SHERRY HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
05:46:45.751 --> 05:46:47.153
CUBA AT THIS TIME ONLINE. GREAT.
05:46:47.219 --> 05:46:48.187
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
05:46:48.254 --> 05:46:49.889
THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT
05:46:49.955 --> 05:46:51.257
RELATES TO THIS MEASURE, CENTER
05:46:51.323 --> 05:46:55.294
CHILLED BOGUE. THE UM SO MY
05:46:55.361 --> 05:46:57.596
QUESTION IS WITH REGARDS TO IF
05:46:57.663 --> 05:46:58.964
YOU WOULD WOULDN'T MIND
05:46:59.031 --> 05:47:00.633
COMMENTING ON THE CONCERNS WITH
05:47:00.699 --> 05:47:01.567
REGARD TO THAT $1 MILLION
05:47:01.634 --> 05:47:05.037
INSURANCE. UM REQUIREMENT COULD
05:47:05.104 --> 05:47:06.805
YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE?
05:47:06.872 --> 05:47:10.843
WHY? YOU THINK THAT'S NEEDED OR
05:47:10.910 --> 05:47:11.911
ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THE
05:47:11.977 --> 05:47:16.248
THAT THE WITNESSED EXPRESSED.
05:47:16.315 --> 05:47:17.883
I'LL LET THE CALIFORNIA
05:47:17.950 --> 05:47:18.851
DEPARTMENT INSURANCE GOING IN
05:47:18.918 --> 05:47:21.820
DETAIL, BUT I THINK JUST HIM,
05:47:21.887 --> 05:47:23.956
SAYING HE HAS A CONCERN ABOUT
05:47:24.023 --> 05:47:25.491
FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT SIDE WOULD
05:47:25.558 --> 05:47:27.993
BELIEVE HE WOULD WANT TO HAVE
05:47:28.060 --> 05:47:29.195
INSURANCE TO OFFSET THAT ANY
05:47:29.261 --> 05:47:30.462
GREAT, BUT THE OTHER CLAIM THAT
05:47:30.529 --> 05:47:33.098
THERE IS NO INSURANCE. THE
05:47:33.165 --> 05:47:33.966
COMPANIES THAT OFFER BONDING
05:47:34.033 --> 05:47:35.334
HUNTER INSURANCE ARE EX
05:47:35.401 --> 05:47:36.936
INSURANCE EVOLUTION INSURANCE
05:47:37.002 --> 05:47:39.238
BROKERS THROUGH IT AND GENERAL
05:47:39.305 --> 05:47:39.838
LIABILITY INSURANCE. SO THERE
05:47:39.905 --> 05:47:41.540
ARE INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT DO
05:47:41.607 --> 05:47:44.376
THAT? UM THE NEED FOR THE
05:47:44.443 --> 05:47:45.878
MILLION DOLLAR. I'LL HAVE THE
05:47:45.945 --> 05:47:47.179
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
05:47:47.246 --> 05:47:49.114
INSURANCE. GO AHEAD AND ANSWER
05:47:49.181 --> 05:47:50.416
THAT FOR YOU IF THEY'RE STILL ON
05:47:50.482 --> 05:47:55.354
THE LIKE YES. THANK YOU. STILL
05:47:55.421 --> 05:47:57.056
ON THE LINE OF THE LIABILITY
05:47:57.122 --> 05:47:58.791
INSURANCE PROVIDES PROTECTION,
05:47:58.857 --> 05:48:00.125
DENSE CLAIMS RESULTING FROM
05:48:00.192 --> 05:48:01.827
INJURIES AND DAMAGE TO PEOPLE
05:48:01.894 --> 05:48:04.430
AND OUR PROPERTY. UM COVERAGE IS
05:48:04.496 --> 05:48:06.832
DETERMINED BY THE SCOPE OF THE
05:48:06.899 --> 05:48:07.900
POLICY BUT EXAMPLE POLICIES WE
05:48:07.967 --> 05:48:10.603
HAVE SEEN COVER SUCH THINGS AS
05:48:10.669 --> 05:48:11.937
FALSE ARREST, VIOLATION OF
05:48:12.004 --> 05:48:13.606
RIGHTS OF PRIVACY, WRONGFUL
05:48:13.672 --> 05:48:15.140
ENTRY AND WRONG, WRONGFUL
05:48:15.207 --> 05:48:17.810
SEIZURE, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL
05:48:17.876 --> 05:48:19.478
OTHER STATES THAT ALREADY HAVE
05:48:19.545 --> 05:48:21.780
THIS REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS WHY
05:48:21.847 --> 05:48:23.349
WE ADDED IT TO THE BILL IN THE
05:48:23.415 --> 05:48:25.851
ASSEMBLY INSURANCE COMMITTEE.
05:48:25.918 --> 05:48:29.955
RIGHT? THANK YOU QUESTIONS,
05:48:30.022 --> 05:48:36.061
OKAY? ALRIGHT UM ANY FURTHER
05:48:36.128 --> 05:48:37.162
QUESTIONS BY MAY I BE HEARD?
05:48:37.229 --> 05:48:39.098
THIS IS DAN ESCAMILLA. I'M
05:48:39.164 --> 05:48:43.736
SORRY. A MAN BE HEARD. I JUST
05:48:43.802 --> 05:48:45.504
WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT OTHER
05:48:45.571 --> 05:48:46.972
STATES DON'T HAVE INSURANCE CODE
05:48:47.039 --> 05:48:48.574
5 33 IN PLACE, AND IT'S NOT
05:48:48.641 --> 05:48:49.975
CLEAR WHETHER THESE OTHER STATES
05:48:50.042 --> 05:48:51.777
ALLOW CLAIMS INVOLVING
05:48:51.844 --> 05:48:52.845
INTENTIONAL TORTS. BUT CERTAINLY
05:48:52.911 --> 05:48:55.581
CALIFORNIA DOES NOT. SO ANY
05:48:55.648 --> 05:48:57.283
INSURANCE ON CLAIMS OF
05:48:57.349 --> 05:48:58.584
INTENTIONAL TORCHES ILLEGAL IN
05:48:58.651 --> 05:48:59.585
CALIFORNIA. SO WITH THIS POLICY
05:48:59.652 --> 05:49:03.289
WITH HIS THIS BILL REQUIRES IS
05:49:03.355 --> 05:49:08.327
AN ILLEGAL INSURANCE POLICY. DO
05:49:08.394 --> 05:49:10.663
YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? I
05:49:10.729 --> 05:49:12.164
DO KNOW. OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT
05:49:12.231 --> 05:49:12.798
ASSURANCES SHARED MOST OF THEIR
05:49:12.865 --> 05:49:15.734
STATE'S BOUNTY HUNTERS USE OUR
05:49:15.801 --> 05:49:17.303
ALLY INSURANCE FOR A COMPANY.
05:49:17.369 --> 05:49:18.837
FOR EXAMPLE, ALSO SOUTHERN
05:49:18.904 --> 05:49:19.405
CALIFORNIA FUGITIVE RECOVERY
05:49:19.471 --> 05:49:22.741
STATE. ON THEIR WEBSITE, THEY
05:49:22.808 --> 05:49:24.943
MAINTAINED A $2 MILLION PER
05:49:25.010 --> 05:49:26.345
INCIDENT. BILL ENFORCEMENT
05:49:26.412 --> 05:49:28.047
LIABILITY INSURANCE. SO WHAT? WE
05:49:28.113 --> 05:49:29.682
HAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF WHAT
05:49:29.748 --> 05:49:34.887
THERE IS INSURANCE. RIGHT? BEEN
05:49:34.953 --> 05:49:36.255
MOVED BY SENATOR JUST POINT OUT
05:49:36.322 --> 05:49:39.892
THAT IF IT'S ARE WE GOING BACK
05:49:39.958 --> 05:49:42.361
AND FORTH, NO MODERATOR. THIS IS
05:49:42.428 --> 05:49:43.862
NOT A BACK AND FORTH DIALOGUE
05:49:43.929 --> 05:49:46.231
RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS
05:49:46.298 --> 05:49:47.433
POSED. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.
05:49:47.499 --> 05:49:50.869
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION
05:49:50.936 --> 05:49:52.438
BY SENATOR KAMLAGER. THERE'S NO
05:49:52.504 --> 05:49:53.539
FURTHER QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
05:49:53.605 --> 05:49:55.407
MEMBERS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
05:49:55.474 --> 05:49:56.408
RESPECT FOR THE ASTEROID? I
05:49:56.475 --> 05:49:58.944
THOUGH, OKAY, WE HAVE A DO PASS
05:49:59.011 --> 05:50:01.513
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
05:50:01.580 --> 05:50:02.648
COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
05:50:02.715 --> 05:50:07.519
2043. MAYBE 2043 BRADFORD
05:50:07.586 --> 05:50:12.191
BRADFORD IAKOVOS Ó. SHOW BOAT,
05:50:12.257 --> 05:50:14.793
NOT VOTING KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER
05:50:14.860 --> 05:50:18.931
AYE SKINNER WIENER. ALL RIGHT.
05:50:18.997 --> 05:50:20.366
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
05:50:20.432 --> 05:50:21.900
ABSENT MEMBERS SAT ON NOW WE'RE
05:50:21.967 --> 05:50:23.769
MOVING ON TO FALL ITEM 27, MAYBE
05:50:23.836 --> 05:50:26.672
23 21. YOU MAY BEGIN. HELP!
05:50:26.739 --> 05:50:30.142
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. CHAIR
05:50:30.209 --> 05:50:32.911
MEMBERS PRESENT 80 23 21, WHICH
05:50:32.978 --> 05:50:34.646
WILL CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE EXISTING
05:50:34.713 --> 05:50:36.548
LAW THAT ALLOWS MINORS TO BE
05:50:36.615 --> 05:50:38.050
LOCKED IN ROOMS FOR INDEFINITE
05:50:38.117 --> 05:50:40.119
AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THIS IS SUCH
05:50:40.185 --> 05:50:42.888
AS SHIFT CHANGES AS WELL AS
05:50:42.955 --> 05:50:44.890
INSURERS, MINERS HAVE ADEQUATE
05:50:44.957 --> 05:50:46.592
ACCESS TO TOILETS. FIRST, I
05:50:46.658 --> 05:50:48.394
WOULD LIKE TO SET THE RECORD
05:50:48.460 --> 05:50:49.495
STRAIGHT. THIS BILL DOES NOT
05:50:49.561 --> 05:50:51.163
CAPPED A TIME LIMIT FOR ROOM
05:50:51.230 --> 05:50:52.398
CONFINEMENT USED IN EMERGENCY
05:50:52.464 --> 05:50:54.466
SITUATIONS OR WHEN STAFF AND
05:50:54.533 --> 05:50:55.901
OTHER MINERS FACE SECURITY
05:50:55.968 --> 05:50:58.404
THREATS AS EVIDENCE IN THIS BILL
05:50:58.470 --> 05:51:00.839
, RETAINING EXISTING STATUTE IN
05:51:00.906 --> 05:51:02.274
2018 AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
05:51:02.341 --> 05:51:03.308
INVESTIGATION OF THE LOS ANGELES
05:51:03.375 --> 05:51:05.511
KIND OF JUVENILE FACILITIES.
05:51:05.577 --> 05:51:08.113
FOUND INCIDENCES OF MINORS BEING
05:51:08.180 --> 05:51:10.282
HELD IN ISOLATION WITHOUT
05:51:10.349 --> 05:51:12.351
DOCUMENTED CALLS FOR UPWARDS OF
05:51:12.418 --> 05:51:14.219
MULTIPLE DAYS. UNFORTUNATELY
05:51:14.286 --> 05:51:14.720
SUBSEQUENT REPORTS HAVE
05:51:14.787 --> 05:51:17.756
UNCOVERED SIMILAR ABUSE. TO MAKE
05:51:17.823 --> 05:51:19.758
MATTERS WORSE, FOLLOW UP
05:51:19.825 --> 05:51:21.760
INSPECTIONS MEANT TO ENSURE
05:51:21.827 --> 05:51:23.629
PRIOR ABUSES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED
05:51:23.695 --> 05:51:26.165
HAVE SINCE RESULTED IN NEW CASES
05:51:26.231 --> 05:51:27.166
THAT VIOLATED THIS ROOM
05:51:27.232 --> 05:51:29.134
CONFINEMENT STATUTE. TRIGGERING
05:51:29.201 --> 05:51:31.103
AN ADDITIONAL INSPECTION DESPITE
05:51:31.170 --> 05:51:32.504
STAFFS CLAIMED THAT THE
05:51:32.571 --> 05:51:35.140
INCIDENTS DID NOT NEED TO BE
05:51:35.207 --> 05:51:36.008
DOCUMENTED. IT WAS DETERMINED
05:51:36.074 --> 05:51:37.810
THAT MANY OF THESE INSTANCES
05:51:37.876 --> 05:51:39.645
COULD NOT BE CHARACTERIZED AS
05:51:39.711 --> 05:51:41.146
BRIEF PERIODS OF TIME, NOR IS
05:51:41.213 --> 05:51:42.281
NECESSARY FOR INSTITUTIONAL
05:51:42.347 --> 05:51:45.617
OPERATIONS. CONSEQUENTLY
05:51:45.684 --> 05:51:47.986
VIOLATING EXISTING LAW FURTHER
05:51:48.053 --> 05:51:50.189
WORSENING THE ABUSES. MINERS IN
05:51:50.255 --> 05:51:51.790
THE HALLS HAVE SHARED THEIR
05:51:51.857 --> 05:51:54.092
EXPERIENCES OF HOARDING EMPTY
05:51:54.159 --> 05:51:55.394
MILK CARTONS AND EVEN STERILE
05:51:55.461 --> 05:51:58.130
GLOVES TO URINATE. IN BECAUSE
05:51:58.197 --> 05:52:00.265
THEY DID NOT HAVE A TOILET AND
05:52:00.332 --> 05:52:01.800
HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED OUT OF
05:52:01.867 --> 05:52:03.235
THEIR ROOMS. SOME OTHERS EVEN
05:52:03.302 --> 05:52:04.937
REPORTED HAVING TO USE THEIR
05:52:05.003 --> 05:52:06.672
TILES TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES,
05:52:06.738 --> 05:52:07.906
WHICH IN TURN LEFT THEIR ROOM
05:52:07.973 --> 05:52:10.642
SMELLING OF HORRID ODOR. MEMBER
05:52:10.709 --> 05:52:12.845
LET'S BE FRANK. THESE ARE
05:52:12.911 --> 05:52:14.313
SUBHUMAN, UNSANITARY AND
05:52:14.379 --> 05:52:16.615
DEMORALIZING CONDITIONS. THIS
05:52:16.682 --> 05:52:18.217
COMMON SENSE IMPORTANT BILL
05:52:18.283 --> 05:52:20.252
SEEKS TO ENSURE OUR STATE IS
05:52:20.319 --> 05:52:21.787
BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW LONG
05:52:21.854 --> 05:52:24.790
WITH WHO AND WHERE MINORS ARE
05:52:24.857 --> 05:52:25.757
BEING COMBINED IN LOCKER ROOMS
05:52:25.824 --> 05:52:27.493
AS WELL AS PROVIDE THEM WITH
05:52:27.559 --> 05:52:28.660
DIGNITY AND HUMANITY BY ENSURING
05:52:28.727 --> 05:52:30.596
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO TOILETS.
05:52:30.662 --> 05:52:32.965
STILL URINATING IN MILK CARTONS
05:52:33.031 --> 05:52:36.034
OR IN TOWELS WITH ME TO SPEAK
05:52:36.101 --> 05:52:38.270
AND SUPPORTED. THIS BILL IS GREG
05:52:38.337 --> 05:52:39.304
LITTLE POLICY DIRECTOR FOR
05:52:39.371 --> 05:52:44.276
INITIATE JUSTICE. MR FIDDLE YOU
05:52:44.343 --> 05:52:46.245
MAYBE GET YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
05:52:46.311 --> 05:52:48.247
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GREGORY
05:52:48.313 --> 05:52:49.781
FIDEL AND I AM THE POLICY
05:52:49.848 --> 05:52:51.350
DIRECTOR FOR INITIATE JUSTICE. I
05:52:51.416 --> 05:52:52.885
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY
05:52:52.951 --> 05:52:54.987
TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY IN SUPPORT
05:52:55.053 --> 05:52:57.089
OF THIS BILL. AS THE MEMBER
05:52:57.155 --> 05:52:58.457
MENTIONED, CALIFORNIA HAS MADE
05:52:58.524 --> 05:52:59.892
SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN RECENT
05:52:59.958 --> 05:53:01.560
YEARS TO TRANSFORM OUR JUVENILE
05:53:01.627 --> 05:53:03.595
JUSTICE SYSTEM. HOWEVER GAP
05:53:03.662 --> 05:53:05.297
STILL EXISTS IN THE TREATMENT OF
05:53:05.364 --> 05:53:06.798
YOUTH IN THESE FACILITIES. SOME
05:53:06.865 --> 05:53:08.033
EXAMPLES OF THESE SHORTFALLS
05:53:08.100 --> 05:53:09.134
INCLUDE THE CONFINEMENT OF
05:53:09.201 --> 05:53:10.969
JUVENILES AND LOCKED ROOMS ARE
05:53:11.036 --> 05:53:12.337
INDEFINITE PERIODS OF TIME. THAT
05:53:12.404 --> 05:53:13.272
CAUSES SERIOUS AND LASTING
05:53:13.338 --> 05:53:15.874
DAMAGE TO VULNERABLE YOUTH. IN
05:53:15.941 --> 05:53:17.242
ADDITION TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
05:53:17.309 --> 05:53:19.411
, THE B. S. C. C AND OTHER MEDIA
05:53:19.478 --> 05:53:20.379
OUTLETS HAVE COVERED THESE
05:53:20.445 --> 05:53:21.580
ISSUES IS INADEQUATE ACCESS TO
05:53:21.647 --> 05:53:24.716
TOILETS CONTINUE. YOUTH IN THESE
05:53:24.783 --> 05:53:26.852
FACILITIES HAVE BEEN FORCED TO
05:53:26.919 --> 05:53:27.853
CHOOSE BETWEEN NO CURTAINS OR
05:53:27.920 --> 05:53:29.121
TOWELS TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES
05:53:29.187 --> 05:53:31.156
WHEN LOCKED IN ROOMS THAT DON'T
05:53:31.223 --> 05:53:32.291
HAVE TOILETS AND STAFF DOESN'T
05:53:32.357 --> 05:53:34.059
LET THEM OUT. THIS IS
05:53:34.126 --> 05:53:35.160
UNACCEPTABLE, UNACCEPTABLE AND
05:53:35.227 --> 05:53:36.395
AN ANTITHETICAL TO PROGRESS AT
05:53:36.461 --> 05:53:40.132
THE STATE HAS MADE THIS BILL
05:53:40.198 --> 05:53:42.267
OFFERS CORE PROTECTIONS CRUCIAL
05:53:42.334 --> 05:53:44.236
PROTECTIONS FOR YOUTH. IN THESE
05:53:44.303 --> 05:53:45.270
FACILITIES. YOUTH INCARCERATION
05:53:45.337 --> 05:53:47.205
IS A DEEPLY TRAUMATIC
05:53:47.272 --> 05:53:47.839
EXPERIENCE, AND WE MUST ENSURE
05:53:47.906 --> 05:53:48.774
OUR YOUTH ARE BEING OFFERED
05:53:48.840 --> 05:53:51.376
TRAUMA INFORMED CARE. AND WRAP
05:53:51.443 --> 05:53:53.345
AROUND SERVICES THAT SUPPORTS
05:53:53.412 --> 05:53:54.179
THEIR REHABILITATION AND
05:53:54.246 --> 05:53:56.181
SUCCESSFUL REENTRY. WE WANT YOU
05:53:56.248 --> 05:53:57.716
TO COME HOME THINKING BRIGHTLY
05:53:57.783 --> 05:53:59.251
ABOUT THEIR FUTURE PLANNING FOR
05:53:59.318 --> 05:54:01.353
COLLEGE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND NOT ON
05:54:01.420 --> 05:54:03.188
TRACK FOR FUTURE INVOLVEMENT IN
05:54:03.255 --> 05:54:04.256
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
05:54:04.323 --> 05:54:05.624
THEIR TREATMENT WALL
05:54:05.691 --> 05:54:06.725
INCARCERATED HAS EVERYTHING TO
05:54:06.792 --> 05:54:08.794
DO WITH THAT. AND FOR THAT
05:54:08.860 --> 05:54:09.661
REASON I HEARD YOUR SUPPORT
05:54:09.728 --> 05:54:11.296
TODAY FOR THIS MEASURE. THANK
05:54:11.363 --> 05:54:12.764
YOU. THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
05:54:12.831 --> 05:54:14.566
WITNESSES HERE AND ROOM 1 12
05:54:14.633 --> 05:54:17.669
MACHINISTS. INTENSIFYING SUPPORT
05:54:17.736 --> 05:54:20.572
OF 23 21 ALREADY MEMBERS.
05:54:20.639 --> 05:54:22.841
STANFILL IS ALSO ON BEHALF OF
05:54:22.908 --> 05:54:24.142
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
05:54:24.209 --> 05:54:25.177
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.
05:54:25.243 --> 05:54:26.878
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. GOOD
05:54:26.945 --> 05:54:28.280
AFTERNOON. RON RAILS ON BEHALF
05:54:28.347 --> 05:54:29.948
OF PACIFIC GERMAN DEFENDERS
05:54:30.015 --> 05:54:31.049
CENTER IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
05:54:31.116 --> 05:54:35.887
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON COLIN
05:54:35.954 --> 05:54:37.422
FORWARD WITH FRESH LIFELINES FOR
05:54:37.489 --> 05:54:38.523
YOUTH AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
05:54:38.590 --> 05:54:43.695
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, ELIJAH OR
05:54:43.762 --> 05:54:44.896
ON BEHALF OF ANTI RECIDIVISM
05:54:44.963 --> 05:54:45.931
COALITION. STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
05:54:45.998 --> 05:54:49.368
YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SHE
05:54:49.434 --> 05:54:50.802
AIN'T NO ONE ELSE HERE IN ROOM.
05:54:50.869 --> 05:54:52.871
1, 12 MODERATOR. LET'S GO TO OUR
05:54:52.938 --> 05:54:53.905
PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
05:54:53.972 --> 05:54:56.141
ANYONE WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
05:54:56.208 --> 05:55:02.781
SUPPORT OF 23 21. IF YOU WISH TO
05:55:02.848 --> 05:55:03.849
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BABY 23
05:55:03.915 --> 05:55:05.884
21, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
05:55:05.951 --> 05:55:07.119
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL START WITH
05:55:07.185 --> 05:55:11.790
LINE TO 32. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
05:55:11.857 --> 05:55:13.325
LESLIE CALLED THOSE HOUSTON FOR
05:55:13.392 --> 05:55:14.926
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
05:55:14.993 --> 05:55:17.629
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
05:55:17.696 --> 05:55:22.668
YOU. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. BUT
05:55:22.734 --> 05:55:24.736
I ACTUALLY GOT A LINE TO 69.
05:55:24.803 --> 05:55:25.937
PLEASE GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
05:55:26.004 --> 05:55:28.373
PRESIDENT PRETTY CLEAN. WE'RE
05:55:28.440 --> 05:55:29.775
BACK INTO SALAS TO THE NATIONAL
05:55:29.841 --> 05:55:31.443
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS.
05:55:31.510 --> 05:55:32.844
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
05:55:32.911 --> 05:55:39.017
THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS. AND MR
05:55:39.084 --> 05:55:40.585
CHAIR. I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q
05:55:40.652 --> 05:55:42.721
AT THIS TIME, OKAY? WE'VE
05:55:42.788 --> 05:55:44.122
EXHAUSTED OUR SUPPORT. NOW WE GO
05:55:44.189 --> 05:55:45.557
TO OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE
05:55:45.624 --> 05:55:46.792
HERE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
05:55:46.858 --> 05:55:50.495
TESTIFY AGAINST 23 21? SEE NO
05:55:50.562 --> 05:55:52.397
ONE MODERATOR. LET'S GO TO OUR
05:55:52.464 --> 05:55:57.602
PHONE LINES. IF WE'RE SPEAKING
05:55:57.669 --> 05:55:59.905
OPPOSITION OF A B 23 21, PLEASE
05:55:59.971 --> 05:56:08.447
PRESS 1 TO 0. WE HAVE NO ONE IN
05:56:08.513 --> 05:56:11.049
Q AT THIS TIME, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL
05:56:11.116 --> 05:56:13.051
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
05:56:13.118 --> 05:56:13.585
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN
05:56:13.652 --> 05:56:14.886
REGARDS TO THIS MATTER? NO,
05:56:14.953 --> 05:56:15.887
WE'RE SEEKING EMOTION AND DO
05:56:15.954 --> 05:56:17.089
PASS THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS IS
05:56:17.155 --> 05:56:19.024
THEIR EMOTION. IT'S BEEN MOVED
05:56:19.091 --> 05:56:22.060
BY A SENATOR, TRIPLE BOGEY. MR
05:56:22.127 --> 05:56:24.196
JONES. SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
05:56:24.262 --> 05:56:26.164
CLOSE TO THE S THREE? I VOTE,
05:56:26.231 --> 05:56:27.599
OKAY. COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE
05:56:27.666 --> 05:56:30.368
ROLL ON 23 21. WE HAVE A DUE
05:56:30.435 --> 05:56:32.871
PASSI APPROPRIATIONS. MAYBE 23
05:56:32.938 --> 05:56:36.608
21, BRADFORD REDFORD KOBO KOBO
05:56:36.675 --> 05:56:38.276
GUY KAMLAGER COME LIKE YOUR EYE
05:56:38.343 --> 05:56:43.482
SKINNER WIENER. ALL RIGHT. MM
05:56:43.548 --> 05:56:46.218
HMM. ALL DAYALREADY, AND I'M
05:56:46.284 --> 05:56:48.353
READY FOR THAT. I'VE BEEN LOVING
05:56:48.420 --> 05:56:51.690
HUMAN PROBLEMS AGAIN. IT'S ALL
05:56:51.757 --> 05:56:53.391
RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
05:56:53.458 --> 05:56:55.260
WAS THEIR EMOTIONAL YOU HAVE
05:56:55.327 --> 05:56:57.095
ANOTHER ITEM. NO, NO, NO, THAT'S
05:56:57.162 --> 05:56:59.631
IT, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP.
05:56:59.698 --> 05:57:00.832
WHO DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE, MR
05:57:00.899 --> 05:57:13.779
GABRIEL. THERE YOU GO.
05:57:13.845 --> 05:57:32.764
LET'S SEE WHERE WE.
05:57:33.465 --> 05:57:40.505
MR GABRIEL HELPED ME. MAYBE 2000
05:57:40.572 --> 05:57:42.407
. ALRIGHT HERE WE GO TO MANY
05:57:42.474 --> 05:57:44.943
PAGES. YES UM, FOLLOWING HIM 25
05:57:45.010 --> 05:57:50.615
82,000. YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU
05:57:50.682 --> 05:57:51.283
, MR CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
05:57:51.349 --> 05:57:52.984
MEMBERS. I AM PLEASED TODAY TO
05:57:53.051 --> 05:57:54.286
BE PRESENTING A B 2000, WHICH
05:57:54.352 --> 05:57:56.021
WILL CLOSE THE LOOP HOLE IN LAW
05:57:56.087 --> 05:57:57.455
REGARDING STREET RACING AND SIDE
05:57:57.522 --> 05:57:58.757
SHOWS IN PARKING LOTS OVER THE
05:57:58.824 --> 05:58:00.659
PAST FIVE YEARS, THE CALIFORNIA
05:58:00.725 --> 05:58:01.693
HIGHWAY PATROL HAS REPORTED A
05:58:01.760 --> 05:58:04.129
NEARLY 300% SURGE IN EXHIBITION
05:58:04.196 --> 05:58:05.664
OF SPEED CITATIONS,
05:58:05.730 --> 05:58:07.732
APPROXIMATELY 11% OF CRASHES
05:58:07.799 --> 05:58:08.867
ASSOCIATED WITH ASSOCIATED WITH
05:58:08.934 --> 05:58:10.569
THE STREET RACES HAVE RESULTED
05:58:10.635 --> 05:58:12.871
IN DEATH. PUT SIMPLY STREET
05:58:12.938 --> 05:58:14.773
RACING DEVASTATES FAMILIES HARMS
05:58:14.840 --> 05:58:15.974
INNOCENT BYSTANDERS AND CREATES
05:58:16.041 --> 05:58:17.008
SERIOUS RISKS FOR OUR YOUNG
05:58:17.075 --> 05:58:19.244
PEOPLE. UNFORTUNATELY NO THIS TO
05:58:19.311 --> 05:58:20.745
BE TRUE AS WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF
05:58:20.812 --> 05:58:22.013
VERY UNFORTUNATE AND DEADLY
05:58:22.080 --> 05:58:23.648
INCIDENTS IN MY COMMUNITY IN THE
05:58:23.715 --> 05:58:24.916
SAN FERNANDO VALLEY, WHERE
05:58:24.983 --> 05:58:26.117
RESIDENTS HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES,
05:58:26.184 --> 05:58:27.185
WE'VE HAD INCIDENTS OF THIS
05:58:27.252 --> 05:58:29.387
AROUND THE STATE. LAST YEAR WE
05:58:29.454 --> 05:58:30.655
PASSED AND THIS COMMITTEE
05:58:30.722 --> 05:58:32.524
UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED A B THREE
05:58:32.591 --> 05:58:33.992
TO HELP CRACK DOWN ON SPEED
05:58:34.059 --> 05:58:35.427
CONTESTS ON OUR ROADS AND
05:58:35.493 --> 05:58:37.929
HIGHWAYS. 82,000 MODESTLY
05:58:37.996 --> 05:58:39.431
MODESTLY EXPANDS CURRENT LAW
05:58:39.497 --> 05:58:40.999
REGARDING EXHIBITION OF SPEED
05:58:41.066 --> 05:58:42.434
AND SPEED CONTEST TO INCLUDE
05:58:42.500 --> 05:58:44.102
PARKING LOTS, WHICH WILL HELP
05:58:44.169 --> 05:58:45.303
CRACK DOWN ON THESE ACTIVITIES
05:58:45.370 --> 05:58:47.472
AND SAVE LIVES. 82,000 WILL HELP
05:58:47.539 --> 05:58:48.974
PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES AND SAVE
05:58:49.040 --> 05:58:50.609
THE LIVES OF YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
05:58:50.675 --> 05:58:52.110
ME TODAY TO PROVIDE VIRTUAL
05:58:52.177 --> 05:58:54.446
TESTIMONY SUPPORTED THE BILL IS
05:58:54.512 --> 05:58:54.946
LILY TRUJILLO, EXECUTIVE
05:58:55.013 --> 05:58:58.083
DIRECTOR OF STREET RACING KILLS
05:58:58.149 --> 05:58:59.885
MYSTERY HILL TREE HOLE YOU CAN
05:58:59.951 --> 05:59:03.255
BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
05:59:03.321 --> 05:59:05.790
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS
05:59:05.857 --> 05:59:06.858
MY DAUGHTER, VALENTINA WAS
05:59:06.925 --> 05:59:09.060
KILLED FROM THE THREE WAITING
05:59:09.127 --> 05:59:11.529
CRASH ON DECEMBER 7TH 2013. I
05:59:11.596 --> 05:59:12.931
HAVE BEEN EDUCATING THE YOUTH
05:59:12.998 --> 05:59:14.199
AND THE COMMUNITY. THE GUY'S
05:59:14.266 --> 05:59:15.901
DANGEROUS TO RAISING THE REGULAR
05:59:15.967 --> 05:59:17.769
STRATEGY. HOWEVER, WE NEED MORE
05:59:17.836 --> 05:59:21.273
THAN THIS. HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT
05:59:21.339 --> 05:59:23.208
THE YEARS, THE PROBLEM GOAL AND
05:59:23.275 --> 05:59:24.542
MORE AND MORE PEOPLE DYING ON
05:59:24.609 --> 05:59:26.845
THE STREETS. SO THIS IS
05:59:26.912 --> 05:59:29.080
EXTREMELY EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
05:59:29.147 --> 05:59:32.951
THIS BILL WILL HELP SAVE LIVES.
05:59:33.018 --> 05:59:33.885
THE FOUNDERS THREE WEEKS AND
05:59:33.952 --> 05:59:36.154
KILLS, I SUPPORT A B 2000. THANK
05:59:36.221 --> 05:59:39.457
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE
05:59:39.524 --> 05:59:41.092
ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM
05:59:41.159 --> 05:59:42.928
TESTIFYING AND SUPPORT OF 82,000
05:59:42.994 --> 05:59:45.897
RIGHT AHEAD. THAT'S DETERMINED
05:59:45.964 --> 05:59:47.532
MEMBERS STANFILL ASATO ON BEHALF
05:59:47.599 --> 05:59:48.767
OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
05:59:48.833 --> 05:59:49.734
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
05:59:49.801 --> 05:59:53.772
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN
05:59:53.838 --> 05:59:55.273
MEMBERS, COREY SAYS L. ON BEHALF
05:59:55.340 --> 05:59:56.308
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
05:59:56.374 --> 05:59:56.908
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
05:59:56.975 --> 05:59:58.977
THANK YOU ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
05:59:59.044 --> 06:00:00.378
HERE IN THE ROOM WHEN 12 WAS
06:00:00.445 --> 06:00:01.913
INTENSIFYING SUPPORT SEEN ON
06:00:01.980 --> 06:00:03.448
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
06:00:03.515 --> 06:00:04.683
LINES FOR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
06:00:04.749 --> 06:00:10.622
OF A B 2000. NEPHEW WISH.
06:00:10.689 --> 06:00:12.857
SUPPORT A B 2000, PLEASE PRESS
06:00:12.924 --> 06:00:15.126
ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL
06:00:15.193 --> 06:00:16.461
START WITH LINE TO 78. PLEASE GO
06:00:16.528 --> 06:00:21.166
AHEAD. YES THERE'S EVENING, MR
06:00:21.232 --> 06:00:22.033
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
06:00:22.100 --> 06:00:23.368
COMMITTEE SHARING THEMSELVES ON
06:00:23.435 --> 06:00:25.570
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
06:00:25.637 --> 06:00:26.571
BAKERSFIELD AND STRONG SUPPORT.
06:00:26.638 --> 06:00:30.141
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JUST
06:00:30.208 --> 06:00:31.209
MOMENTS, CHERRY JUST HAD ONE
06:00:31.276 --> 06:00:42.988
QUEUE UP. OKAY AND WE'LL GO TO
06:00:43.054 --> 06:00:46.825
LINE 2 75, PLEASE GO AHEAD. AYE
06:00:46.891 --> 06:00:47.826
AMANDA GUADARRAMA WITH TRIPLE A
06:00:47.892 --> 06:00:49.627
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
06:00:49.694 --> 06:00:53.999
YOU. AND THEN LINE 2 77, PLEASE
06:00:54.065 --> 06:00:59.137
GO AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS,
06:00:59.204 --> 06:01:00.572
LIEUTENANT BRANDON UP WITH THE
06:01:00.638 --> 06:01:01.973
LOS ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF'S
06:01:02.040 --> 06:01:02.907
DEPARTMENT SUPPORT. THANK THANK
06:01:02.974 --> 06:01:07.679
YOU. WITNESS. AND WE HAVE NO ONE
06:01:07.746 --> 06:01:09.214
ELSE AND YOU'RE AT THIS TIME.
06:01:09.280 --> 06:01:11.383
OKAY NOW WE'LL GO TO OPPOSITION
06:01:11.449 --> 06:01:13.518
. UH WE HAVE NO LISTED
06:01:13.585 --> 06:01:17.088
OPPOSITION LEADER POSITION.
06:01:17.155 --> 06:01:21.026
ALRIGHT UM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
06:01:21.092 --> 06:01:23.128
HI FRED WINS A C L U CALIFORNIA
06:01:23.194 --> 06:01:24.829
ACTION. MY PROJECT IS NOT UPDATE
06:01:24.896 --> 06:01:26.765
A LETTER ON THIS BILL BUT JUST
06:01:26.831 --> 06:01:29.167
WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS TO
06:01:29.234 --> 06:01:29.934
THE COMMITTEE ONE. WE THINK IT
06:01:30.001 --> 06:01:31.536
IS IMPRUDENT TO A LINE SPEED
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CONTEST THAT OCCUR ON HIGHWAY OF
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PUBLIC ROADWAY WITH THOSE THAT
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OCCUR. IN A, UM IN A PARKING
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FACILITY. UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR
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VEHICLES SPEAK. CONTESTS ARE
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DANGEROUS, UNDERSTAND THE NEED
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TO REGULATE BOTH OF THOSE WE DO
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THINK THE ALIGNMENT OF THE
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ALIGNMENT OF THEM. IS IMPROVING
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. CURRENT LAW ALREADY PROHIBITS
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ENGAGING IN THE VEHICLE SPEED
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CONTEST ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY. IT
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ALSO PROHIBITS DANGEROUS BE
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CONTEST IN A PARKING FACILITY IF
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A PERSON ENTERS ANOTHER PERSON
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WHILE ENGAGING IN RECKLESS
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DRIVING. UM AN INDIVIDUAL CAN
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ALREADY BE CONVICTED OF
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MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY, DEPENDING
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ON INJURIES THAT OCCUR TO AN
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INDIVIDUAL AND SO FOR US, IT IS
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WITHOUT COMMITTED BENEFIT THAT
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WE ALIGN THE TWO GIVEN THAT IN
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ON A HIGHWAY ROADWAY. WE HAVE
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THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THAT IS
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THEY'RE PARTICIPATING. YOU HAVE
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THOSE THAT ARE PARKED ON THE
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SIDE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON
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THE ROAD, WHEREAS IN A PARKING
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FACILITY WE THINK WHEN THAT IS
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DONE DANGEROUSLY, IT ALREADY IS
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SUFFICIENTLY COVERED UNDER
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CURRENT LAWS. THANK YOU. THANK
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YOU ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
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OPPOSITION? SEE NONE MODERATOR.
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LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LINES FOR
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WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION OF A B
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2000. AND IF YOU ARE NOT
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POSITION OF 82,000, PLEASE PRESS
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ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. MR
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CHAIR. NO ONE IS IN Q AT THIS
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TIME. ALRIGHT LET'S BRING IT
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BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY
06:03:01.693 --> 06:03:03.995
QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? YEAH I HAVE
06:03:04.062 --> 06:03:06.898
A QUESTION. I WANT WATER AUTHOR
06:03:06.965 --> 06:03:08.032
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I
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JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE
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OFFSITE. PAST THREE PARKING
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FACILITIES, THE LANGUAGE IS
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SILENT ON CONSENT, SO DOES IT
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SPEAK TO IF THE OWNER OF A
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PARKING FACILITY GIVES CONSENT.
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UM. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S AN
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EXCELLENT POINT. UM I'M NOT 100%
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SURE ABOUT THAT. I ASSUME THAT
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PEOPLE IF THEY WANTED TO COULD,
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YOU KNOW, CREATE RACEWAYS AND DO
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OTHER THINGS. I THINK THE
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INTENTION HERE IS TO DEAL WITH,
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UM, YOU KNOW? PARKING FACILITIES
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THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND
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THAT ARE BEING USED BY THE
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PUBLIC. UM AND IF YOU'LL INDULGE
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ME, SENATOR, I THINK ONE OF THE
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REASONS THAT WERE A LITTLE
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MYSTIFIED BY THE OPPOSITION FROM
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THE W UM AND APPRECIATE THEM. IS
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THEY WENT NEUTRAL ON A VIRTUALLY
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IDENTICAL BILL LAST YEAR THAT
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HAD TO DO WITH SPEED RACING ON
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OUR HIGHWAYS AND STREETS. UM IT
06:04:07.091 --> 06:04:08.459
FELT THAT THERE WAS AN OVERSIGHT
06:04:08.526 --> 06:04:09.627
THAT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE PARKING
06:04:09.694 --> 06:04:10.662
FACILITIES. THEY SEEM TO THINK
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THAT IT'S LESS DANGEROUS, I
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WOULD ARGUE UM, THEY'RE
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PROTESTING PEDESTRIANS IN OUR
06:04:14.899 --> 06:04:15.900
PARKING LOTS, RIGHT? I LEARNED
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TO RIDE A BIKE IN A PARKING LOT.
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WE HAVE LITTLE KIDS WALKING
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AROUND IN PARKING LOTS. SO TO
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ME, IT SEEMS TO BE, UM, THAT
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THERE'S ACTUALLY A HIGHER DANGER
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OF INCIDENTS OF DEATH AND PEOPLE
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BEING INJURED. GOD FORBID IN OUR
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PARKING LOTS WHERE YOU HAVE THE
06:04:29.847 --> 06:04:30.782
GENERAL PUBLIC WALKING AROUND
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AND AS THEY MENTIONED LAW
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ENFORCEMENT STILL HAS THE
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OPPORTUNITY TO CHARGE PEOPLE
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UNDER EXISTING LAW ON PARKING
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FACILITIES. THIS WOULD JUST MAKE
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IT SO THAT THE CHARGE WOULD BE
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THE SAME IN ON A PARKING
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FACILITY AND THEN ALSO ON A
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HIGHWAY. THIS ALLOWS US TO
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COLLECT RESEARCH. AND EVIDENCE
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ON HOW FREQUENTLY THIS IS
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OCCURRING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
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CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING
06:04:50.969 --> 06:04:52.804
ABOUT SPEED RACING SO AGAIN
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APPRECIATE OUR FRIENDS AT THE
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BLUE FOR ALL THEY DO. I GUESS
06:04:55.707 --> 06:04:57.308
WE'RE JUST A LITTLE MYSTIFIED
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BECAUSE IN OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S
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ACTUALLY MORE DANGEROUS TO HAVE
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FOLKS RACING AROUND THE PARKING
06:05:00.945 --> 06:05:02.647
LOT WHERE YOU GOT LITTLE KIDS
06:05:02.714 --> 06:05:03.781
WITH LEARNING TO RIDE A BIKE.
06:05:03.848 --> 06:05:05.683
THEN IT MIGHT BE ACTUALLY ON THE
06:05:05.750 --> 06:05:07.452
HIGHWAY. OTHER QUESTIONS ARE
06:05:07.518 --> 06:05:11.789
CONCERNED. SOME OF THEM GABLE.
06:05:11.856 --> 06:05:13.024
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? JUST
06:05:13.091 --> 06:05:13.925
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING I VOTE,
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OKAY? WE HAVE A DO PASS THROUGH
06:05:17.595 --> 06:05:18.429
APPROPRIATIONS. IS THERE A
06:05:18.496 --> 06:05:21.866
MOTION IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
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SENATOR KAMLAGER COUNCIL, PLEASE
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CALL THE ROLL ON A B 2000. MAYBE
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2000 BRADFORD KOBO KOBO GUY
06:05:29.207 --> 06:05:33.311
KAMLAGER. KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE
06:05:33.378 --> 06:05:37.582
NOT VOTING. SKINNER, WIENER.
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OKAY THAT MEASURES TWO VOTES
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WILL LEAD THE WORLD OPEN. THANK
06:05:40.885 --> 06:05:42.287
YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'RE
06:05:42.353 --> 06:05:46.824
WORD. MOVING THROUGH THIS. WHAT
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DO WE HAVE? NEXT? WE HAVE
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DOCTOR, HOWEVER. HE HAS A B 23
06:05:51.362 --> 06:06:03.608
43. YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN READY.
06:06:03.675 --> 06:06:06.377
GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS
06:06:06.444 --> 06:06:09.147
HAD TO LOOK AT MY WATCH TO SEE
06:06:09.213 --> 06:06:09.881
IF IT WAS AFTERNOON OR EVENING.
06:06:09.947 --> 06:06:11.516
I'M HERE TO PRESENT A B 23 43,
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WHICH SEEKS TO ADDRESS THE
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DEFICIENCIES IN CALIFORNIA'S
06:06:13.785 --> 06:06:15.887
LOCAL DETENTION FACILITIES.
06:06:15.953 --> 06:06:17.889
RAISED BY THE CALIFORNIA STATE
06:06:17.955 --> 06:06:19.023
AUDITOR OFFICE AND RAISE THE
06:06:19.090 --> 06:06:20.024
STANDARD OF CARE FOR
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INCARCERATED PEOPLE. FEDERAL LAW
06:06:22.260 --> 06:06:23.628
REQUIRES A COUNTY SHERIFF
06:06:23.695 --> 06:06:24.595
DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE
06:06:24.662 --> 06:06:26.297
MEDICAL CARE FOR INDIVIDUALS IN
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THEIR CUSTODY. IN CALIFORNIA.
06:06:29.200 --> 06:06:30.368
THE BOARD OF STATE AND COMMUNITY
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CORRECTIONS WAS ESTABLISHED IN
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ITS CURRENT FORM IN 2012 TO
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PROVIDE STATEWIDE COORDINATION
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AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR
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LOCAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS. THE B. S.
06:06:39.777 --> 06:06:41.312
C C IS TASKED WITH DEVELOPING
06:06:41.379 --> 06:06:42.814
MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR LOCAL
06:06:42.880 --> 06:06:45.149
DETENTION FACILITIES AND EXPECT
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AND INSPECTING AND REPORTING ON
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FACILITY COMPLIANCE. THE SEC
06:06:49.687 --> 06:06:50.455
ALSO SET STANDARDS FOR
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CORRECTIONAL TRAINING AND
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ADMINISTERS FACILITY FUNDING AND
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SEVERAL GRANT PROGRAMS FOR LOCAL
06:06:54.659 --> 06:06:55.626
CORRECTIONS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
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ENTITIES. IN TOTAL. THERE ARE
06:06:58.629 --> 06:07:00.498
ABOUT 550 LOCAL DETENTION
06:07:00.565 --> 06:07:02.500
FACILITIES IN CALIFORNIA. THESE
06:07:02.567 --> 06:07:04.435
INCLUDE JAILS, WHICH CAN HOUSE
06:07:04.502 --> 06:07:05.536
PEOPLE FOR SIGNIFICANT PERIODS
06:07:05.603 --> 06:07:07.905
OF TIME WHILE SERVING SENTENCES
06:07:07.972 --> 06:07:09.040
OR AWAITING TRIAL AND ARE
06:07:09.107 --> 06:07:10.108
TYPICALLY OPERATED BY COUNTY
06:07:10.174 --> 06:07:13.244
SHERIFF'S IN 2021. THE
06:07:13.311 --> 06:07:14.779
CALIFORNIA STATE AUDITOR'S
06:07:14.846 --> 06:07:16.247
OFFICE INVESTIGATED THE SAN
06:07:16.314 --> 06:07:17.315
DIEGO COUNTY SHERIFF'S
06:07:17.382 --> 06:07:19.550
DEPARTMENT AND DISCOVERED 185
06:07:19.617 --> 06:07:20.785
INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR CUSTODY
06:07:20.852 --> 06:07:22.587
DIED FROM 2000 AND SIX THROUGH
06:07:22.653 --> 06:07:25.390
2020. MORE DEATHS PER AVERAGE
06:07:25.456 --> 06:07:27.325
DAILY POPULATIONS THAN ANY OTHER
06:07:27.392 --> 06:07:30.361
LARGE COUNTY IN THE STATE. BUT
06:07:30.428 --> 06:07:32.563
MORE IMPORTANTLY, MANY COUNTIES
06:07:32.630 --> 06:07:33.898
ACROSS THE STATE HAVE FACED
06:07:33.965 --> 06:07:35.400
LITIGATION THE LAST DECADE
06:07:35.466 --> 06:07:36.934
RELATING TO CONDITIONS IN THEIR
06:07:37.001 --> 06:07:38.870
COUNTY JAILS. THE PRISON LAW
06:07:38.936 --> 06:07:40.471
OFFICE ALONE HAS SUCCESSFULLY
06:07:40.538 --> 06:07:41.639
LITIGATED CASES RELATED TO JAIL
06:07:41.706 --> 06:07:42.707
CONDITIONS, AND CASTRO CONTRA
06:07:42.774 --> 06:07:46.611
COSTA. RIVERSIDE FRESNO, SANTA
06:07:46.677 --> 06:07:47.779
BARBARA, SACRAMENTO, SANTA CLARA
06:07:47.845 --> 06:07:49.914
AND SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES,
06:07:49.981 --> 06:07:51.482
MANY OF WHICH WE EVOLVED, RUN
06:07:51.549 --> 06:07:52.950
INADEQUATE ACCESS TO MEDICAL
06:07:53.017 --> 06:07:53.951
CARE, INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH
06:07:54.018 --> 06:07:57.755
CARE. THE 2022 STATE AUDIT BY
06:07:57.822 --> 06:07:59.891
CONFIRMED THE ALREADY EXTENSIVE
06:07:59.957 --> 06:08:01.459
PUBLIC RECORD DOCUMENTING THE
06:08:01.526 --> 06:08:03.060
TRAGIC LOSS OF LIFE, SYSTEMIC
06:08:03.127 --> 06:08:04.228
FAILURES AND INADEQUACY OF
06:08:04.295 --> 06:08:07.999
OVERSIGHT. THE HONORED NOTED
06:08:08.065 --> 06:08:10.401
THAT QUOTE GIVEN THE NUMBER OF
06:08:10.468 --> 06:08:12.503
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS DEATHS
06:08:12.570 --> 06:08:14.305
IN COUNTY JAILS ACROSS THE STATE
06:08:14.372 --> 06:08:15.406
INCREASE FROM 2000 AND 6 TO
06:08:15.473 --> 06:08:18.976
2020. IMPROVING THE STATEWIDE
06:08:19.043 --> 06:08:20.445
STANDARDS IS A CENTRAL TO
06:08:20.511 --> 06:08:22.013
ENSURING HEALTH AND SAFETY OF
06:08:22.079 --> 06:08:23.815
INDIVIDUALS IN CUSTODY IN ALL
06:08:23.881 --> 06:08:26.584
COUNTIES. SOME OF THE SANTIAGO
06:08:26.651 --> 06:08:27.852
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT POLICY
06:08:27.919 --> 06:08:29.887
DEFICIENCIES. DEFICIENCIES WERE
06:08:29.954 --> 06:08:31.823
THE RESULT OF POOR STATEWIDE
06:08:31.889 --> 06:08:32.890
CORRECTION STANDARD DESIGNED BY
06:08:32.957 --> 06:08:35.393
THE DSCC, INCLUDING REGULATIONS
06:08:35.460 --> 06:08:36.794
THAT ALLOW FOR INSUFFICIENT
06:08:36.861 --> 06:08:39.096
HEALTH EVALUATION AT INTAKE.
06:08:39.163 --> 06:08:40.598
INCONSISTENT FOLLOW UP AND
06:08:40.665 --> 06:08:42.900
MEDICAL CARE AND ADEQUATE SAFETY
06:08:42.967 --> 06:08:44.569
CHECKS AND UNNECESSARY DELAYS IN
06:08:44.635 --> 06:08:45.503
RESPONSES TO MEDICAL
06:08:45.570 --> 06:08:49.106
EMERGENCIES. MAYBE 23 43
06:08:49.173 --> 06:08:50.608
CODIFIES NUMEROUS
06:08:50.675 --> 06:08:51.676
RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THE
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HEALTH AND SAFETY OF
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INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AND ALL
06:08:55.112 --> 06:08:56.147
DETENTION FACILITIES OUTLINED BY
06:08:56.214 --> 06:08:58.883
THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. IT WILL
06:08:58.950 --> 06:09:00.651
REQUIRE THE DSCC TO DEVELOP AND
06:09:00.718 --> 06:09:02.086
ADOPT REGULATIONS THAT ALIGN
06:09:02.153 --> 06:09:04.088
WITH BEST PRACTICES RELATED TO
06:09:04.155 --> 06:09:06.424
PERFORMING INTAKE, EVALUATIONS,
06:09:06.491 --> 06:09:07.825
SAFETY CHECKS AND REQUIRING
06:09:07.892 --> 06:09:08.359
ONGOING CORRECTIONAL STAFF
06:09:08.426 --> 06:09:11.996
TRAINING. THIS BILL ALSO ADDS
06:09:12.063 --> 06:09:13.397
TWO ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO THE
06:09:13.464 --> 06:09:15.399
BOARD, A LICENSED CARE PROVIDER
06:09:15.466 --> 06:09:16.567
AND A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH
06:09:16.634 --> 06:09:19.904
CARE PROVIDER. WITH ME TODAY BY
06:09:19.971 --> 06:09:20.671
TELEPHONE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
06:09:20.738 --> 06:09:24.242
A B 23 43 IS TIFFANY WITTEN,
06:09:24.308 --> 06:09:24.909
SENIOR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS
06:09:24.976 --> 06:09:27.078
ADVOCATE, AND PALOMA SERENA,
06:09:27.144 --> 06:09:28.679
WHOSE DAUGHTER RECENTLY DIED IN
06:09:28.746 --> 06:09:30.248
CUSTODY AT LAST COLINAS
06:09:30.314 --> 06:09:31.315
DETENTION AND REENTRY FACILITY.
06:09:31.382 --> 06:09:35.019
IN NOVEMBER OF 2019. A TWIST.
06:09:35.086 --> 06:09:36.187
WITNESS WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES
06:09:36.254 --> 06:09:44.595
YOU CAN BEGIN. BLUE OPERATOR. DO
06:09:44.662 --> 06:09:52.403
WE HAVE OUR WITNESSES QUEUED?
06:09:52.470 --> 06:09:54.272
CHEER BRADFORD JONATHAN CLAMP
06:09:54.338 --> 06:09:55.940
AFTER THE KERRY CINDY AND I
06:09:56.007 --> 06:09:58.009
THINK I MAY BE THE PERSON
06:09:58.075 --> 06:09:59.410
TESTIFYING TODAY, GIVEN THE LATE
06:09:59.477 --> 06:10:01.212
HOUR, OKAY, GO RIGHT AHEAD, MR
06:10:01.279 --> 06:10:04.715
CLAY TO MINUTES. UM I'LL TRY AND
06:10:04.782 --> 06:10:05.983
KEEP THIS SHORT GIVEN THE LATE
06:10:06.050 --> 06:10:07.919
HOUR AND SINCE MY TESTIMONY
06:10:07.985 --> 06:10:09.420
STARTED WITH GOOD MORNING, UM
06:10:09.487 --> 06:10:11.689
JONATHAN CLAIM ON BEHALF OF THE
06:10:11.756 --> 06:10:13.824
COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, WE ARE
06:10:13.891 --> 06:10:14.859
PLEASED TO BE HERE AS A CO
06:10:14.926 --> 06:10:16.093
SPONSOR AND GREATLY APPRECIATE.
06:10:16.160 --> 06:10:17.595
SOME OF THE MEMBER WEBER WORKING
06:10:17.662 --> 06:10:19.697
WITH US ON THIS PIECE OF
06:10:19.764 --> 06:10:22.633
LEGISLATION, AS SHE NOTED IN HER
06:10:22.700 --> 06:10:24.335
STATEMENT, THE STATE ORDER HAD
06:10:24.402 --> 06:10:25.570
COME DOWN AND LOOKED AT SAN
06:10:25.636 --> 06:10:27.405
DIEGO AND IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF
06:10:27.471 --> 06:10:29.740
PROBLEMS. AH WE APPRECIATE HER
06:10:29.807 --> 06:10:31.275
EFFORT TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE
06:10:31.342 --> 06:10:33.010
BOTH AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AT THE
06:10:33.077 --> 06:10:35.046
STATE LEVEL. THE COUNTY BELIEVES
06:10:35.112 --> 06:10:38.182
THAT THE B S. C C IS THE RIGHT
06:10:38.249 --> 06:10:39.350
AND NEED TO DEVELOP AND ADOPT
06:10:39.417 --> 06:10:40.351
THOSE STANDARDS. AND THEN JUST
06:10:40.418 --> 06:10:42.086
IN CLOSING. THE COUNTY HAS BEEN
06:10:42.153 --> 06:10:43.287
WORKING WITH OUR INTERIM SHERIFF
06:10:43.354 --> 06:10:45.289
AND COMMAND STAFF TO IMPLEMENT A
06:10:45.356 --> 06:10:46.457
NUMBER OF THOSE ACTIONS THAT WE
06:10:46.524 --> 06:10:49.393
CONTROL AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. BUT
06:10:49.460 --> 06:10:51.028
WE THINK THAT THIS BILL IS
06:10:51.095 --> 06:10:52.330
NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT AND
06:10:52.396 --> 06:10:54.165
ADDRESS SYSTEM WIDE PROBLEMS.
06:10:54.231 --> 06:10:56.033
AND FOR THOSE REASONS, WE URGE
06:10:56.100 --> 06:10:57.201
YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS IMPORTANT
06:10:57.268 --> 06:10:58.769
MEASURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
06:10:58.836 --> 06:11:00.404
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
06:11:00.471 --> 06:11:02.840
1 12 WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
06:11:02.907 --> 06:11:03.908
SUPPORTIVE 23-14 THREE. NOW IS
06:11:03.975 --> 06:11:08.512
THE TIME. GOOD EVENING, GREGORY.
06:11:08.579 --> 06:11:09.513
FIDDLE WITH INITIATE JUST AS
06:11:09.580 --> 06:11:14.085
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
06:11:14.151 --> 06:11:15.119
EVENING. COLIN FORWARD WITH
06:11:15.186 --> 06:11:16.120
FRESH LIFELINES FOR YOUTH,
06:11:16.187 --> 06:11:18.255
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
06:11:18.322 --> 06:11:19.323
IN THE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
06:11:19.390 --> 06:11:22.893
SUPPORT SHE NONE. MODERATOR
06:11:22.960 --> 06:11:24.996
LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE LINES FOR
06:11:25.062 --> 06:11:26.063
WITNESSES AND SUPPORTERS. 23-14
06:11:26.130 --> 06:11:31.202
THREE. AND THOSE WHICH SPEAK IN
06:11:31.268 --> 06:11:32.670
SUPPORT OF A B 23 43, PLEASE
06:11:32.737 --> 06:11:36.107
PUSH ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
06:11:36.173 --> 06:11:37.208
BORDERLINE 2 32, PLEASE GO
06:11:37.274 --> 06:11:44.615
AHEAD. 2 32 YEAR LINE IS OPEN TO
06:11:44.682 --> 06:11:56.293
GO AHEAD.
06:11:56.360 --> 06:11:58.629
OKAY AND WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
06:11:58.696 --> 06:12:03.134
Q AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. SHOW
06:12:03.200 --> 06:12:04.935
WE'LL GO TO OPPOSITION NOW. IS
06:12:05.002 --> 06:12:06.137
THERE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION OF
06:12:06.203 --> 06:12:08.105
23-14 THREE WE HAVE QUARRY
06:12:08.172 --> 06:12:13.344
CELLS. ILO. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
06:12:13.411 --> 06:12:14.278
AND MEMBERS COREY SALTILLO ON
06:12:14.345 --> 06:12:15.379
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
06:12:15.446 --> 06:12:16.113
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION.
06:12:16.180 --> 06:12:17.314
RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION.
06:12:17.381 --> 06:12:20.117
MAYBE 23 43. HISTORICALLY WE'VE
06:12:20.184 --> 06:12:21.585
HAD CONCERNS WITH GROWING THE
06:12:21.652 --> 06:12:22.720
SIZE OF THE BORDER, STATE AND
06:12:22.787 --> 06:12:23.754
COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS. WE FEEL
06:12:23.821 --> 06:12:25.423
THE BOARD HAS AN APPROPRIATE
06:12:25.489 --> 06:12:27.391
CURRENT COMPOSITION. AND WORRY
06:12:27.458 --> 06:12:28.893
THAT ADDING TO IT
06:12:28.959 --> 06:12:29.794
NOTWITHSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE
06:12:29.860 --> 06:12:31.362
OF THE DELIVERY OF MEDICAL AND
06:12:31.429 --> 06:12:32.763
MENTAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES TO
06:12:32.830 --> 06:12:34.131
INCARCERATED PERSONS WILL DILUTE
06:12:34.198 --> 06:12:35.366
THE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY OF
06:12:35.433 --> 06:12:38.769
THE BODY. UH FURTHER WHILE THE
06:12:38.836 --> 06:12:40.504
BOARD IS THE APPROPRIATE VENUE
06:12:40.571 --> 06:12:41.806
FOR SETTING MINIMUM STANDARDS
06:12:41.872 --> 06:12:43.474
FOR DETENTION FACILITIES WERE
06:12:43.541 --> 06:12:44.842
CONCERNED THIS BILL GOES TOO FAR
06:12:44.909 --> 06:12:46.143
BY INSTALLING SPECIFIC STANDARDS
06:12:46.210 --> 06:12:49.647
IN STATUTE. BOARD MEMBERS,
06:12:49.714 --> 06:12:50.581
PRACTITIONERS AND OTHER
06:12:50.648 --> 06:12:51.916
STAKEHOLDERS PARTICIPATE IN A
06:12:51.982 --> 06:12:53.651
NEAR CONSTANT REVISION OF TITLE
06:12:53.718 --> 06:12:56.120
15 STANDARDS. FOR BOTH ADULT AND
06:12:56.187 --> 06:12:56.587
JUVENILE INCARCERATED
06:12:56.654 --> 06:12:59.123
POPULATIONS. THIS PROCESS
06:12:59.190 --> 06:12:59.890
GENERALLY RESULTS AND WELL
06:12:59.957 --> 06:13:00.891
NEGOTIATED AND ACHIEVABLE
06:13:00.958 --> 06:13:03.394
STANDARDS. THAT ARE SUBJECT TO
06:13:03.461 --> 06:13:04.462
THE SCRUTINY AND REVIEW OF
06:13:04.528 --> 06:13:07.264
EXPERTS. AND THOSE WHO WILL BE
06:13:07.331 --> 06:13:08.532
ASKED TO IMPLEMENT AND ABIDE BY
06:13:08.599 --> 06:13:10.000
THEM. STATUTORILY SETTING THESE
06:13:10.067 --> 06:13:11.235
STANDARDS INTERFERES IN THIS
06:13:11.302 --> 06:13:12.937
PROCESS AND PRECLUDES THE B S. C
06:13:13.003 --> 06:13:14.405
C AND THOSE THAT OVERSEAS FROM
06:13:14.472 --> 06:13:15.506
BEING NIMBLE WHEN CHANGES ARE
06:13:15.573 --> 06:13:18.342
NECESSARY. FINALLY SEVERAL OF
06:13:18.409 --> 06:13:19.977
THE CHANGES REQUIRED BY THE BILL
06:13:20.044 --> 06:13:21.278
WILL LIKELY RESULT IN COSTLY
06:13:21.345 --> 06:13:22.980
MANDATES AND THE NEED FOR MORE
06:13:23.047 --> 06:13:24.381
STAFF BUT FAILS TO PROVIDE FOR
06:13:24.448 --> 06:13:26.250
ANY FUNDING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT
06:13:26.317 --> 06:13:27.351
THE BILL SEEKS. FOR THOSE
06:13:27.418 --> 06:13:29.920
REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY
06:13:29.987 --> 06:13:30.921
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
06:13:30.988 --> 06:13:33.524
THE ROOM 1 12 IN OPPOSITION.
06:13:33.591 --> 06:13:34.759
SCENE AND LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
06:13:34.825 --> 06:13:35.826
LINES MODERATOR. FOR WITNESSES
06:13:35.893 --> 06:13:41.632
AND OPPOSITION. AND SHE WISHES
06:13:41.699 --> 06:13:42.833
SPEAKING OPPOSITION. PLEASE
06:13:42.900 --> 06:13:50.674
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. AND WE
06:13:50.741 --> 06:13:52.176
HAVE NO ONE IN CURED THIS TIME,
06:13:52.243 --> 06:13:53.844
WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO
06:13:53.911 --> 06:13:55.179
THE COMMITTEE THEIR QUESTIONS
06:13:55.246 --> 06:13:55.946
REGARDING THIS SENATOR JOE
06:13:56.013 --> 06:14:01.252
VOGUE. SO, UM, LET'S SEE. AND TO
06:14:01.318 --> 06:14:07.391
FIND OUT HERE. WITH REGARD TO
06:14:07.458 --> 06:14:09.226
THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED
06:14:09.293 --> 06:14:11.428
RIGHT WHAT IS THE TERM OF THEIR
06:14:11.495 --> 06:14:14.965
APPOINTMENT? UM THE TERM OF
06:14:15.032 --> 06:14:19.603
THEIR. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY
06:14:19.670 --> 06:14:21.505
AROUND FOUR YEARS. I CAN DOUBLE
06:14:21.572 --> 06:14:22.506
CHECK AND GIVE THAT BACK TO YOU
06:14:22.573 --> 06:14:24.608
FOR YEARS. I THINK SO. BUT I
06:14:24.675 --> 06:14:26.877
WILL DOUBLE CHECK AND GET BACK
06:14:26.944 --> 06:14:27.812
BACK BACK TO YOU. THEY'RE THE
06:14:27.878 --> 06:14:29.847
REASON I ASK IS THAT BECAUSE
06:14:29.914 --> 06:14:32.116
THEY'RE APPOINTED UM AND I'M NOT
06:14:32.183 --> 06:14:34.385
SURE. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING
06:14:34.451 --> 06:14:37.955
TO PROBABLY BE EVERY TWO YEARS
06:14:38.022 --> 06:14:39.824
FROM APART FROM EACH OTHER AS
06:14:39.890 --> 06:14:42.893
THE BOARD CHANGES. BUT DID YOU
06:14:42.960 --> 06:14:44.528
CONSIDER PERHAPS THAT MAYBE NOT
06:14:44.595 --> 06:14:51.368
ADDING, BUT MAYBE REQUIRING THAT. FROM THE CURRENT BOARD
06:14:51.435 --> 06:14:52.536
MEMBERS, THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS
06:14:52.603 --> 06:14:57.775
TWO OF THEM OUT OF 13 COULD.
06:14:57.842 --> 06:14:58.809
ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
06:14:58.876 --> 06:14:59.944
THE MENTAL HEALTH AND IN THE
06:15:00.010 --> 06:15:04.081
BEHAVIOR AND NO SO WHAT WE'RE
06:15:04.148 --> 06:15:06.283
ADDING IS BASICALLY A MEDICAL
06:15:06.350 --> 06:15:09.086
PROVIDER AND A SEPARATE PERSON
06:15:09.153 --> 06:15:10.621
WHO FOCUSES SPECIFICALLY ON
06:15:10.688 --> 06:15:11.689
MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH
06:15:11.755 --> 06:15:12.790
PROVIDER AND A HEALTH CARE
06:15:12.857 --> 06:15:15.626
PROVIDER. MEDICAL AND HEALTH. DO
06:15:15.693 --> 06:15:16.627
YOU THINK THAT PERHAPS ADDING
06:15:16.694 --> 06:15:19.463
NUMBERS? YOU COULD REQUIRE THE
06:15:19.530 --> 06:15:25.703
CURRENT. MEMBERS OF TWO OF THE
06:15:25.769 --> 06:15:27.872
CURRENT 13 MEMBERS MEET THAT
06:15:27.938 --> 06:15:30.774
CRITERIA AT THE NEXT APPOINTMENT
06:15:30.841 --> 06:15:32.042
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ADD. I
06:15:32.109 --> 06:15:33.344
ALWAYS HAVE A HARD TIME WITH
06:15:33.410 --> 06:15:34.445
ADDING AND GETTING THINGS
06:15:34.511 --> 06:15:36.847
BIGGER, REALLY. I SHARE THE
06:15:36.914 --> 06:15:39.884
CONCERNS OF THE OPPOSITION THAT
06:15:39.950 --> 06:15:41.952
AS THINGS GET BIGGER, THEY GET
06:15:42.019 --> 06:15:44.388
MORE INEFFICIENT. AND, UM
06:15:44.455 --> 06:15:47.958
EFFECTIVE IN A LOT OF WAYS AND I
06:15:48.025 --> 06:15:50.127
DON'T KNOW. IT JUST GETS VERY
06:15:50.194 --> 06:15:50.928
CONVOLUTED LIKE TO WORK WITHIN
06:15:50.995 --> 06:15:52.763
THE SCOPES WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE
06:15:52.830 --> 06:15:53.964
SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT IF
06:15:54.031 --> 06:15:56.767
SOMETHING IS REQUIRED, UM AS FAR
06:15:56.834 --> 06:15:58.602
AS THE EXPERTISE THAT THEY
06:15:58.669 --> 06:15:59.703
ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE CURRENT
06:15:59.770 --> 06:16:02.206
NUMBER. IS THERE A REASON WHY
06:16:02.273 --> 06:16:05.276
YOU DIDN'T CONSIDERED GOING THAT
06:16:05.342 --> 06:16:07.378
ROUND, INSTEAD ADDING TWO
06:16:07.444 --> 06:16:08.913
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS, RIGHT WELL,
06:16:08.979 --> 06:16:10.447
WHENEVER YOU GO THAT ROUTE, THE
06:16:10.514 --> 06:16:12.049
MEMBERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE
06:16:12.116 --> 06:16:13.350
ALWAYS STATE THAT THERE IS A
06:16:13.417 --> 06:16:14.952
REASON WHY THEY'RE THERE AND
06:16:15.019 --> 06:16:16.787
ELIMINATING IT LIKE IF YOU HAVE
06:16:16.854 --> 06:16:18.188
A SHERIFF ON ELIMINATING A
06:16:18.255 --> 06:16:19.356
SHERIFF'S PERSPECTIVE. THEN YOU
06:16:19.423 --> 06:16:21.558
ALWAYS HAVE THOSE BATTLES, BUT
06:16:21.625 --> 06:16:23.060
WE CAN DEFINITELY GO BACK AND
06:16:23.127 --> 06:16:24.061
LOOK AT THE CURRENT COMPOSITION
06:16:24.128 --> 06:16:27.164
TO SEE WHAT, UM, EXPERTISE IS
06:16:27.231 --> 06:16:28.699
THERE AND SEE IF THERE IS
06:16:28.766 --> 06:16:29.934
SOMEONE THAT OR TO PEOPLE THAT
06:16:30.000 --> 06:16:32.002
WOULD BE REMOVED WITHOUT ANY
06:16:32.069 --> 06:16:32.636
OPPOSITION. AND CONSIDER DOING
06:16:32.703 --> 06:16:37.174
THAT. YEAH. THREE YEARS. THANK
06:16:37.241 --> 06:16:38.876
YOU THREE YEAR TERM TERMS, AND
06:16:38.943 --> 06:16:40.711
I'M ASSUMING THAT HALF OF THE
06:16:40.778 --> 06:16:46.016
BOARD CHANGES A GREAT START.
06:16:46.083 --> 06:16:51.789
YEAH. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I
06:16:51.855 --> 06:16:53.691
KIND OF FIGURED SO THE CURRENT
06:16:53.757 --> 06:16:56.126
BOARD MEMBERS THEY'RE JUST
06:16:56.193 --> 06:16:56.961
GENERALLY APPOINTED TO THAT
06:16:57.027 --> 06:17:01.932
BOARD WITH NO SPECIFIC. UM THERE
06:17:01.999 --> 06:17:03.400
ARE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. THEY
06:17:03.467 --> 06:17:05.002
JUST DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND
06:17:05.069 --> 06:17:06.437
OF HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS ON THERE
06:17:06.503 --> 06:17:08.739
. OKAY OKAY. SO THERE IS
06:17:08.806 --> 06:17:09.840
SPECIFIC AND I'M ASSUMING THEY
06:17:09.907 --> 06:17:12.843
ALL HAVE SOMETHING RELEVANT TO
06:17:12.910 --> 06:17:15.312
THAT TO THAT SPACE, MHM, BUT WE
06:17:15.379 --> 06:17:17.181
DON'T KNOW WHAT SORRY. MY
06:17:17.247 --> 06:17:20.017
THROAT. OH, OKAY. THING THAT I
06:17:20.084 --> 06:17:38.769
HAVE.
06:17:39.837 --> 06:17:40.771
OKAY. ARE YOU YOU HAVE
06:17:40.838 --> 06:17:45.309
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? TOÀN. ALL
06:17:45.376 --> 06:17:50.147
RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
06:17:50.214 --> 06:17:52.282
NÓ. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. WOULD YOU
06:17:52.349 --> 06:17:56.720
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU. UM SO
06:17:56.787 --> 06:17:58.856
THERE IS DEFINITELY A CRISIS OF
06:17:58.922 --> 06:17:59.656
INCARCERATED PEOPLE DYING BEHIND
06:17:59.723 --> 06:18:01.792
THEM BARS, A JAIL SENTENCE
06:18:01.859 --> 06:18:03.427
CANNOT REMAIN A DE FACTO DEATH
06:18:03.494 --> 06:18:05.629
SENTENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
06:18:05.696 --> 06:18:07.965
THAT PEOPLE ARE IN CUSTODY ARE
06:18:08.032 --> 06:18:08.899
SOMEONE'S FAMILY MEMBER,
06:18:08.966 --> 06:18:09.466
SOMEONE'S BROTHER, SISTER.
06:18:09.533 --> 06:18:13.137
MOTHER, FATHER. MAYBE 23-14
06:18:13.203 --> 06:18:14.204
THREE WILL BRING ABOUT THE
06:18:14.271 --> 06:18:15.706
NECESSARY ACCOUNTABILITY AND
06:18:15.773 --> 06:18:17.141
ENSURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS
06:18:17.207 --> 06:18:19.209
LAID OUT BY OUR STATE AUDITOR
06:18:19.276 --> 06:18:20.844
ARE IMPLEMENTED TO REDUCE
06:18:20.911 --> 06:18:22.046
SUICIDES AND ENSURE THAT THOSE
06:18:22.112 --> 06:18:25.315
IN CUSTODY ARE IN SAFE AND
06:18:25.382 --> 06:18:26.250
HUMANE CONDITIONS. I
06:18:26.316 --> 06:18:29.653
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
06:18:29.720 --> 06:18:30.654
AND YOU DO NOT HAVE SOME
06:18:30.721 --> 06:18:33.924
QUESTIONS. WHICH CHOICE, OKAY?
06:18:33.991 --> 06:18:36.026
OR CHICKEN EMOTION ON THIS
06:18:36.093 --> 06:18:37.194
MEASURE. WE HAVE A DO PAST
06:18:37.261 --> 06:18:38.095
RECOMMENDATION TO
06:18:38.162 --> 06:18:39.430
APPROPRIATIONS. HAS BEEN MOVED
06:18:39.496 --> 06:18:43.667
BY SENATOR CALM WATER COUNCIL,
06:18:43.734 --> 06:18:46.103
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON A B 23
06:18:46.170 --> 06:18:48.839
43 A B 23 43 BRADFORD BRADFORD I
06:18:48.906 --> 06:18:50.774
THO VOGUE. CHILDBIRTH, NOT
06:18:50.841 --> 06:18:53.911
VOTING KAMLAGER. COME LIKE HER.
06:18:53.977 --> 06:18:59.883
I SKINNER WIENER. THE MEASURE
06:18:59.950 --> 06:19:01.185
HAS TWO VOTES WILL LEAVE IT OPEN
06:19:01.251 --> 06:19:03.053
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS SAT ON. THANK
06:19:03.120 --> 06:19:04.822
YOU. SENATOR KAMLAGER. WOULD YOU
06:19:04.888 --> 06:19:06.623
LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR BILL RIGHT
06:19:06.690 --> 06:19:13.764
NOW? YEAH YOU CAN DO IT FROM
06:19:13.831 --> 06:19:14.331
RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE YOU'RE
06:19:14.398 --> 06:19:16.233
PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF MR GRAY,
06:19:16.300 --> 06:19:20.904
YOU'RE PRESENTING A B 26 82.
06:19:20.971 --> 06:19:25.909
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS.
06:19:25.976 --> 06:19:28.712
A B 2682 ON BEHALF OF
06:19:28.779 --> 06:19:31.048
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAY ADDRESSES
06:19:31.115 --> 06:19:32.049
SKYROCKETING RATES OF CATALYTIC
06:19:32.116 --> 06:19:35.619
CONVERTER THEFT. BY REQUIRING
06:19:35.686 --> 06:19:37.354
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS TO BE
06:19:37.421 --> 06:19:38.722
PERMANENTLY MARKED WITH THE
06:19:38.789 --> 06:19:41.024
VEHICLES V. I IN CRIMINALIZING
06:19:41.091 --> 06:19:42.759
THE TAMPERING OR REMOVAL OF
06:19:42.826 --> 06:19:44.061
EVENT MARKING AND REQUIRING SMOG
06:19:44.128 --> 06:19:47.831
CHECKS. TO NOTIFY DRIVERS IF
06:19:47.898 --> 06:19:48.932
THEIR CATALYTIC CONVERTER HAS
06:19:48.999 --> 06:19:52.436
NOT BEEN MARKED. I WANT TO
06:19:52.503 --> 06:19:53.971
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAY WANTS TO
06:19:54.037 --> 06:19:55.606
THANK THIS COMMITTEE FOR WORKING
06:19:55.672 --> 06:19:57.741
WITH HIM AND THE BUSINESS AND
06:19:57.808 --> 06:19:58.876
PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE WHERE THE
06:19:58.942 --> 06:20:00.811
BILL WAS HEARD YESTERDAY.
06:20:00.878 --> 06:20:02.246
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAY IS PLEASED
06:20:02.312 --> 06:20:04.014
TO REPORT THAT PROVIDING A
06:20:04.081 --> 06:20:05.215
LITTLE EXTRA TIME BEFORE THE
06:20:05.282 --> 06:20:07.551
HEARING HAS PAID OFF, AND HE'S
06:20:07.618 --> 06:20:08.452
BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH
06:20:08.519 --> 06:20:09.887
STAKEHOLDERS OVER THE LAST TWO
06:20:09.953 --> 06:20:11.989
WEEKS TO RESOLVE CONCERNS AND
06:20:12.055 --> 06:20:13.290
DEVELOP THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE
06:20:13.357 --> 06:20:15.325
AND PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS. TO
06:20:15.392 --> 06:20:16.527
ACHIEVE THE SHARED GOAL AS
06:20:16.593 --> 06:20:20.397
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDMENT. AS
06:20:20.464 --> 06:20:22.099
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED. THERE IS
06:20:22.166 --> 06:20:24.201
NO LONGER ANY OPPOSITION TO A B
06:20:24.268 --> 06:20:27.404
2682. THAT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
06:20:27.471 --> 06:20:29.006
WILL REQUIRE DEALERS RATHER THAN
06:20:29.072 --> 06:20:31.909
MANUFACTURERS TO MARK CATALYTIC
06:20:31.975 --> 06:20:33.544
CONVERTERS ON THE VEHICLES THAT
06:20:33.610 --> 06:20:34.945
ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE TARGETED
06:20:35.012 --> 06:20:36.513
BY THIEVES. IN ADDITION, THE
06:20:36.580 --> 06:20:38.348
BILL REQUIRES DEALERS, SERVICE
06:20:38.415 --> 06:20:40.450
CENTERS AND REPAIR SHOPS. TO
06:20:40.517 --> 06:20:42.553
MARK CATALYTIC CONVERTERS WHEN
06:20:42.619 --> 06:20:44.121
THEY ARE BEING REPAIRED OR
06:20:44.188 --> 06:20:47.658
REPLACED. A B 2682 IS SUPPORTED
06:20:47.724 --> 06:20:48.659
BY THE CALIFORNIA NEW CAR
06:20:48.725 --> 06:20:50.260
DEALERS ASSOCIATION IN
06:20:50.327 --> 06:20:51.161
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
06:20:51.228 --> 06:20:53.263
ASSOCIATION. IN CALIFORNIA
06:20:53.330 --> 06:20:55.399
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, THE
06:20:55.465 --> 06:20:56.767
PERSONAL INSURANCE FEDERATION
06:20:56.833 --> 06:20:58.635
AND THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY AIR
06:20:58.702 --> 06:21:01.638
POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. I AM
06:21:01.705 --> 06:21:03.774
JOINED TODAY BY ANTHONY SAMSON
06:21:03.840 --> 06:21:05.542
ON BEHALF OF THE NEW CAR DEALERS
06:21:05.609 --> 06:21:07.711
AND SUPPORT OF THE BILL, AND AT
06:21:07.778 --> 06:21:08.845
THE APPROPRIATE TIME, I WOULD
06:21:08.912 --> 06:21:13.884
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE.
06:21:13.951 --> 06:21:15.385
YOU HAVE AN THINGS HERE, AND
06:21:15.452 --> 06:21:17.187
THERE HE IS. HE'S READY FOR
06:21:17.254 --> 06:21:18.222
PREPARED FOR TESTIMONY AND
06:21:18.288 --> 06:21:19.723
SUPPORT. YOU MAY BEGIN. YOU HAVE
06:21:19.790 --> 06:21:21.458
TWO MINUTES AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR
06:21:21.525 --> 06:21:23.193
MEMBERS, ANTHONY SAMPSON ON
06:21:23.260 --> 06:21:24.328
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA NEW CAR
06:21:24.394 --> 06:21:25.529
DEALERS ASSOCIATION. I
06:21:25.596 --> 06:21:28.165
APPRECIATE SENATOR KAMLAGER, UH
06:21:28.232 --> 06:21:31.168
, SUBSTITUTING TODAY FOR MR GRAY
06:21:31.235 --> 06:21:32.703
, PLEASED TO BE IN SUPPORT OF
06:21:32.769 --> 06:21:34.137
THE MEASURE. WE'VE COME TO THE
06:21:34.204 --> 06:21:35.839
TABLE EARLY ON WE I MEAN, THE
06:21:35.906 --> 06:21:38.642
CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS. UM
06:21:38.709 --> 06:21:40.877
INDICATING THAT WE WANT TO BE
06:21:40.944 --> 06:21:42.312
PART OF THE SOLUTION. WE
06:21:42.379 --> 06:21:42.980
UNDERSTAND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT
06:21:43.046 --> 06:21:44.681
PROBLEM. DEALERSHIPS HAVE NOT
06:21:44.748 --> 06:21:46.450
BEEN SPARED CATALYTIC CONVERTER
06:21:46.516 --> 06:21:48.352
THEFTS. WE'VE BEEN SEEING THEM
06:21:48.418 --> 06:21:50.220
ON THE LOTS OF THEFTS AND LOTS
06:21:50.287 --> 06:21:51.388
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. WE'VE JUST
06:21:51.455 --> 06:21:53.390
HAD TWO CONDITIONS REALLY TO
06:21:53.457 --> 06:21:55.325
COME IN AND DO THE PERMANENT
06:21:55.392 --> 06:21:57.861
MARKING ON CATALYTIC CONVERTERS
06:21:57.928 --> 06:22:01.765
. NUMBER ONE, UM GETTING TO THE
06:22:01.832 --> 06:22:03.667
CATALYTIC CONVERTER AND A LOT OF
06:22:03.734 --> 06:22:04.935
VEHICLES IS REALLY, REALLY
06:22:05.002 --> 06:22:05.669
CHALLENGING. THEY COULD BE
06:22:05.736 --> 06:22:07.704
LOCATED DEEP WITHIN THE VEHICLE
06:22:07.771 --> 06:22:09.072
AND THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD. WE
06:22:09.139 --> 06:22:10.941
WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXEMPT THOSE
06:22:11.008 --> 06:22:11.942
FROM THE PERMANENT MARKING
06:22:12.009 --> 06:22:14.177
REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE
06:22:14.244 --> 06:22:15.879
SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE
06:22:15.946 --> 06:22:16.780
EASY TO REACH CATALYTIC
06:22:16.847 --> 06:22:18.615
CONVERTERS THROUGH VISIBILITY
06:22:18.682 --> 06:22:19.316
STANDARD THAT'S BEEN
06:22:19.383 --> 06:22:20.517
INCORPORATED INTO THE BILL,
06:22:20.584 --> 06:22:21.985
WHICH WE APPRECIATE IT AND
06:22:22.052 --> 06:22:24.221
SECOND BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC
06:22:24.288 --> 06:22:27.024
BENEFIT. A CONSUMER BENEFIT AND
06:22:27.090 --> 06:22:29.393
PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFIT, AND IT IS
06:22:29.459 --> 06:22:31.261
A SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING BY NEW
06:22:31.328 --> 06:22:32.763
CAR DEALERS IN THE STATE OF
06:22:32.829 --> 06:22:34.331
CALIFORNIA TO PERFORM THIS ON
06:22:34.398 --> 06:22:35.632
BOTH NEW AND USED VEHICLES FROM
06:22:35.699 --> 06:22:38.635
A LABOR STANDPOINT. WE HAVE
06:22:38.702 --> 06:22:40.103
SIMPLY ASKED FOR THE ABILITY TO
06:22:40.170 --> 06:22:42.205
RECOVER THOSE COSTS THROUGH A
06:22:42.272 --> 06:22:43.774
LINE ITEM CONSUMER CHARGE THAT
06:22:43.840 --> 06:22:46.076
HAS ALSO BEEN INCORPORATED INTO
06:22:46.143 --> 06:22:47.544
THE BILL, WHICH WE VERY MUCH
06:22:47.611 --> 06:22:48.812
APPRECIATE IT FOR THOSE REASONS
06:22:48.879 --> 06:22:51.181
WE SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU.
06:22:51.248 --> 06:22:54.785
THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE TRAVIS
06:22:54.851 --> 06:22:57.721
AUSTIN HERE? BRIDGE ONLINE IS
06:22:57.788 --> 06:23:05.095
THE ONLINE. NOT ALREADY DO WE
06:23:05.162 --> 06:23:09.166
HAVE TRAVIS AUSTIN ONLINE?
06:23:09.232 --> 06:23:11.301
ALRIGHT SINCE WE DON'T IS THERE
06:23:11.368 --> 06:23:13.303
ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM AND 1 12
06:23:13.370 --> 06:23:15.305
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
06:23:15.372 --> 06:23:25.182
26 82. MODERATED WE HAVE ANYONE
06:23:25.248 --> 06:23:27.184
ONLINE WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
06:23:27.250 --> 06:23:32.089
SUPPORT 26 82. IF YOU WISH TO.
06:23:32.155 --> 06:23:33.390
TESTIFIED SUPPORTIVE 26 82,
06:23:33.457 --> 06:23:35.325
PLEASE PRESS 1 TO 0 AT THIS
06:23:35.392 --> 06:23:38.995
TIME. IN JUST ONE. WE HAVE ONE.
06:23:39.062 --> 06:23:55.212
TUTOR.
06:23:57.247 --> 06:24:00.884
OKAY AND WE'LL GO WITH WINE. TO
06:24:00.951 --> 06:24:05.756
67, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
06:24:05.822 --> 06:24:07.824
AFTERNOON SHARING MEMBERS. ERICA
06:24:07.891 --> 06:24:08.692
ROMERO ON BEHALF OF VALLEY
06:24:08.759 --> 06:24:10.260
SENIOR NOW AND THE CALIFORNIA
06:24:10.327 --> 06:24:11.995
DOWN PORTS AUTHORITY IN SUPPORT.
06:24:12.062 --> 06:24:15.232
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
06:24:15.298 --> 06:24:20.537
WITNESS. AND THEN WE HAVE LINE
06:24:20.604 --> 06:24:25.075
TO 75. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
06:24:25.142 --> 06:24:26.209
AMANDA GUADARRAMA WITH TRIPLE A
06:24:26.276 --> 06:24:34.918
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. IN THIS
06:24:34.985 --> 06:24:36.553
CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q
06:24:36.620 --> 06:24:38.955
AT THIS TIME, OKAY, NOW WE'RE
06:24:39.022 --> 06:24:40.157
GOING TO AFFORD THE OPPOSITION
06:24:40.223 --> 06:24:41.958
STADIUM OPPORTUNITY. WE HAD NO
06:24:42.025 --> 06:24:43.927
LEAD WITNESS LISTED. BUT WE HAVE
06:24:43.994 --> 06:24:45.529
MR PERRY TO GO RIGHT OUT, WHICH
06:24:45.595 --> 06:24:46.663
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS RANDY PERRY
06:24:46.730 --> 06:24:48.432
WITH THE ALLIANCE OF AUTOMOTIVE
06:24:48.498 --> 06:24:50.400
INNOVATION. WE WERE OPPOSED TO
06:24:50.467 --> 06:24:51.535
THE BILL. WE'VE BEEN WORKING
06:24:51.601 --> 06:24:54.037
WITH THE AUTHOR. AND WE HAVE
06:24:54.104 --> 06:24:56.072
REMOVED OUR OPPOSITION AND WE'LL
06:24:56.139 --> 06:24:56.573
CONTINUE WORKING ON THE
06:24:56.640 --> 06:24:57.507
AMENDMENTS GOING FORWARD. THANK
06:24:57.574 --> 06:25:00.410
YOU APPRECIATE IT. IN ADDITIONAL
06:25:00.477 --> 06:25:02.312
WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM THAT
06:25:02.379 --> 06:25:04.614
ARE END UP OPPOSED OR NOW REMOVE
06:25:04.681 --> 06:25:08.051
THEIR OPPOSITION. NO, OKAY.
06:25:08.118 --> 06:25:09.419
MONTEREY LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
06:25:09.486 --> 06:25:10.887
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE
06:25:10.954 --> 06:25:12.055
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
06:25:12.122 --> 06:25:17.294
OPPOSITION OF 26 82. HIM WHEN I
06:25:17.360 --> 06:25:19.296
WAS TESTIFYING. OPPOSITION OF 26
06:25:19.362 --> 06:25:20.530
82, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
06:25:20.597 --> 06:25:29.105
THIS TIME. IMMATURE WE HAVE NO
06:25:29.172 --> 06:25:30.707
ONE IN Q AT THIS TIME, OKAY? NO
06:25:30.774 --> 06:25:32.943
OPPOSITION. GOOD THING. ALRIGHT
06:25:33.009 --> 06:25:34.044
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ARE
06:25:34.110 --> 06:25:38.648
CONCERNED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS?
06:25:38.715 --> 06:25:41.117
THANK MR GRANT IS ABSENCE FOR
06:25:41.184 --> 06:25:41.885
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
06:25:41.952 --> 06:25:43.787
AMENDMENTS ADDRESSING SOME OF
06:25:43.854 --> 06:25:45.555
THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
06:25:45.622 --> 06:25:47.724
RAISED, AND I THINK IT'S A HEY,
06:25:47.791 --> 06:25:50.227
COMMON SENSE MEASURE THAT NEEDS
06:25:50.293 --> 06:25:51.361
TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE WE ALL
06:25:51.428 --> 06:25:53.163
KNOW THE RISING CATALOOCHEE. AH
06:25:53.230 --> 06:25:54.164
CONVERTER THEFT HERE IN
06:25:54.231 --> 06:25:55.265
CALIFORNIA ACROSS THE NATION
06:25:55.332 --> 06:25:57.133
SHOW. I THINK IT'S A BILL WHOSE
06:25:57.200 --> 06:26:00.670
TIME HAS COME DO WE HAVE A
06:26:00.737 --> 06:26:01.605
MOTION? WE HAVE TO DO POWERS TO
06:26:01.671 --> 06:26:05.242
APPROPRIATIONS AS AMENDED. IT'S
06:26:05.308 --> 06:26:08.979
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR KAMLAGER.
06:26:09.045 --> 06:26:10.113
COUNCIL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
06:26:10.180 --> 06:26:13.617
26 82. A B 26 82 BRADFORD
06:26:13.683 --> 06:26:20.290
BRADFORD I HAD CHOSEN BOGUE.
06:26:20.357 --> 06:26:23.326
KOBO GUY KAMLAGER KAMLAGER RICE
06:26:23.393 --> 06:26:25.395
SKINNER. WIENER ALRIGHT, WE HAVE
06:26:25.462 --> 06:26:26.363
THREE VOTES BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL
06:26:26.429 --> 06:26:28.164
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK
06:26:28.231 --> 06:26:30.467
YOU, SENATOR KAMLAGER. DO WE
06:26:30.534 --> 06:26:33.169
HAVE ANY OTHER AUTHORS IN THE
06:26:33.236 --> 06:26:37.007
ROOM? SHE NOT AT THIS TIME. DO
06:26:37.073 --> 06:26:41.645
WE NEED TO LIFT THE CALL ON ANY
06:26:41.711 --> 06:26:44.614
OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT MEMBERS
06:26:44.681 --> 06:26:46.483
WHO ARE HERE NOW THAT MIGHT HAVE
06:26:46.550 --> 06:26:48.018
BEEN ABSENT. OR YOU JUST WANT TO
06:26:48.084 --> 06:26:54.257
WAIT. OH, YEAH. WE HAVE A MAJOR
06:26:54.324 --> 06:26:55.492
VOTE. ONLY US. WE CAN DO THE
06:26:55.559 --> 06:27:12.442
MISSOURIAN BOAT ONLY.
06:27:15.345 --> 06:27:18.181
WE'LL NEED A MOTION. IT'S A B 25
06:27:18.248 --> 06:27:20.917
46 NAZARIAN. BEEN MOVED BY
06:27:20.984 --> 06:27:24.788
SENATOR KAMLAGER VOTE ONLY.
06:27:24.854 --> 06:27:26.356
MAYBE 25 46 BRADFORD, BRADFORD
06:27:26.423 --> 06:27:28.458
IACOCCA BOGUE. TOWBOAT GUY
06:27:28.525 --> 06:27:32.929
KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER NOT VOTING
06:27:32.996 --> 06:27:34.030
SKINNER WIENER. OKAY, WE'LL
06:27:34.097 --> 06:27:35.865
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
06:27:35.932 --> 06:27:52.048
MEMBERS.
06:27:52.716 --> 06:27:55.986
WICKS. WE'RE READY FOR YOU. YOU
06:27:56.052 --> 06:27:57.520
HAVE 27 90 YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN
06:27:57.587 --> 06:28:02.092
READY. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU, MR
06:28:02.158 --> 06:28:04.361
CHAIR AND SENATORS. I WANT TO
06:28:04.427 --> 06:28:06.896
THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
06:28:06.963 --> 06:28:08.231
THEIR WORK AND ASSISTANCE ON
06:28:08.298 --> 06:28:09.232
THIS BILL AND ACCEPT THE
06:28:09.299 --> 06:28:10.934
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS. CURRENT
06:28:11.001 --> 06:28:12.202
CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES AMENDED
06:28:12.268 --> 06:28:14.070
REPORTING FOR A BROAD RANGE OF
06:28:14.137 --> 06:28:15.939
PHYSICAL INJURIES. HOWEVER DATA
06:28:16.006 --> 06:28:18.041
HAS SHOWN THAT FEAR OF MANDATED
06:28:18.108 --> 06:28:18.808
REPORTING HAS KEPT SURVIVORS
06:28:18.875 --> 06:28:20.543
FROM SEEKING MUCH NEEDED
06:28:20.610 --> 06:28:21.811
HEALTHCARE AND SHARING
06:28:21.878 --> 06:28:23.847
INFORMATION WITH PROVIDERS.
06:28:23.913 --> 06:28:25.348
SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL
06:28:25.415 --> 06:28:26.750
VIOLENCE CAN BE PUT IN MORE
06:28:26.816 --> 06:28:27.851
DANGER, WITH NON CONSENSUAL
06:28:27.917 --> 06:28:30.253
REPORTS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. IN A
06:28:30.320 --> 06:28:31.454
SURVEY DONE BY THE NATIONAL
06:28:31.521 --> 06:28:33.923
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE,
06:28:33.990 --> 06:28:34.491
SURVIVORS REPORTED AVOIDING
06:28:34.557 --> 06:28:35.992
HEALTHCARE BECAUSE OF MANDATED
06:28:36.059 --> 06:28:38.361
REPORTING AND 83% OF SURVIVORS
06:28:38.428 --> 06:28:40.330
STATED THAT MANDATED REPORTING
06:28:40.397 --> 06:28:41.931
MADE THE SITUATION MUCH WORSE,
06:28:41.998 --> 06:28:42.766
SOMEWHAT WORSE, OR DID NOTHING
06:28:42.832 --> 06:28:44.501
TO IMPROVE THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
06:28:44.567 --> 06:28:47.804
SITUATION. IN ADDITION, MANDATED
06:28:47.871 --> 06:28:48.672
REPORTING LAWS CAN DISCOURAGE
06:28:48.738 --> 06:28:49.773
IMMIGRANTS SURVIVORS FROM
06:28:49.839 --> 06:28:51.441
SEEKING HEALTHCARE DUE TO FEAR
06:28:51.508 --> 06:28:52.809
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD LEAD
06:28:52.876 --> 06:28:55.178
TO DETENTION OR DEPORTATION OF
06:28:55.245 --> 06:28:56.680
THEMSELVES OR THEIR FAMILY.
06:28:56.746 --> 06:28:58.081
CURRENTLY CALIFORNIA'S ONLY ONE
06:28:58.148 --> 06:28:59.449
OF SEVERAL STATES THAT REQUIRES
06:28:59.516 --> 06:29:00.517
MANDATED REPORTING EXPLICITLY
06:29:00.583 --> 06:29:01.551
FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL
06:29:01.618 --> 06:29:04.921
VIOLENCE. TWO CENTERS, SURVIVOR
06:29:04.988 --> 06:29:06.923
SAFETY AND HEALTH 27 90 WOULD
06:29:06.990 --> 06:29:08.224
LIMIT THE REQUIREMENT FOR
06:29:08.291 --> 06:29:09.726
HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS TO REPORT
06:29:09.793 --> 06:29:11.928
ONLY FIREARM INJURIES TO LAW
06:29:11.995 --> 06:29:13.263
ENFORCEMENT AND REQUIRE THAT
06:29:13.329 --> 06:29:14.130
HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS OFFER
06:29:14.197 --> 06:29:16.566
REFERRALS. TO COMMUNITY BASED
06:29:16.633 --> 06:29:17.500
AND NATIONAL, DOMESTIC AND
06:29:17.567 --> 06:29:18.902
SEXUAL VIOLENCE ADVOCATE
06:29:18.968 --> 06:29:20.937
SERVICES. IF HEALTHCARE PROVIDER
06:29:21.004 --> 06:29:22.672
KNOWS OR SUSPECTS THAT A PATIENT
06:29:22.739 --> 06:29:23.773
IS EXPERIENCING ANY KIND OF
06:29:23.840 --> 06:29:26.476
DOMESTIC OR SEXUAL VIOLENCE. TO
06:29:26.543 --> 06:29:27.944
BE CLEAR THIS BILL WOULD NOT
06:29:28.011 --> 06:29:29.412
IMPACT SEPARATE STATUTES OF
06:29:29.479 --> 06:29:31.648
MANDATED REPORTING FOR CHILD OR
06:29:31.715 --> 06:29:34.651
ELDER ABUSE. MAYBE 27 91
06:29:34.718 --> 06:29:37.887
MODERNIZE CALIFORNIA'S LAW. AND
06:29:37.954 --> 06:29:39.289
HIS MODELED AFTER OTHER STATES
06:29:39.355 --> 06:29:41.658
LAW THAT THAT THAT HAVE THE
06:29:41.725 --> 06:29:42.258
REQUIREMENT TO REFER DOMESTIC
06:29:42.325 --> 06:29:43.727
VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE
06:29:43.793 --> 06:29:45.462
SERVICES. OTHER STATES HAVE
06:29:45.528 --> 06:29:47.263
MODERNIZED THEIR MEDICAL
06:29:47.330 --> 06:29:48.298
MANDATED REPORTING LAWS OVER THE
06:29:48.364 --> 06:29:49.499
YEARS TO BE MORE SURVIVOR
06:29:49.566 --> 06:29:50.834
CENTRIC. THIS BILL WILL ALLOW
06:29:50.900 --> 06:29:52.669
FOR A MORE SURVIVORS CENTER OF
06:29:52.736 --> 06:29:53.703
RESPONSE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
06:29:53.770 --> 06:29:54.904
AND ALLOW FOR MORE ACCESS TO
06:29:54.971 --> 06:29:57.273
HEALTHCARE. THIS BILL IS ALSO
06:29:57.340 --> 06:29:59.309
SUPPORTED BY A WIDE ARRAY OF
06:29:59.375 --> 06:30:01.144
ORGANIZATIONS AND THE DOMESTIC
06:30:01.211 --> 06:30:03.446
VIOLENCE SPACE AND THAT'S REALLY
06:30:03.513 --> 06:30:05.048
WHO WERE TAKING OUR LEAD FROM
06:30:05.115 --> 06:30:07.150
ARE THE SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC
06:30:07.217 --> 06:30:09.152
VIOLENCE TO ENSURE THAT THEIR
06:30:09.219 --> 06:30:10.253
VOICES ARE HEARD IN THIS
06:30:10.320 --> 06:30:11.721
PROCESS. WITNESSES TESTIFYING IN
06:30:11.788 --> 06:30:14.124
SUPPORT. BOTH ARE GOING TO BE
06:30:14.190 --> 06:30:17.060
VIA PHONE IS JANE STOVER FROM UC
06:30:17.127 --> 06:30:18.528
IRVINE SCHOOL OF LAW. YOU SEE
06:30:18.595 --> 06:30:20.330
EVENTS SCHOOL OF LAW DOMESTIC
06:30:20.396 --> 06:30:21.664
VIOLENCE CLINIC. AND KAREN EARL
06:30:21.731 --> 06:30:26.970
FROM THE GENESEE CENTER. TWO
06:30:27.036 --> 06:30:28.238
PRIMARY WITNESSES ALREADY YOU
06:30:28.304 --> 06:30:29.506
HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH MISSED
06:30:29.572 --> 06:30:37.080
OVER. THANK YOU, SENATOR,
06:30:37.147 --> 06:30:38.648
SENATOR SARAH BRADFORD AND
06:30:38.715 --> 06:30:40.683
SENATORS. MY NAME IS CHANGED
06:30:40.750 --> 06:30:43.086
OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES. I'VE
06:30:43.153 --> 06:30:43.953
BEEN REPRESENTING ABUSE
06:30:44.020 --> 06:30:45.555
SURVIVORS DIRECTING DOMESTIC
06:30:45.622 --> 06:30:46.990
VIOLENCE, LAW CLINICS AND
06:30:47.056 --> 06:30:48.057
RESEARCHING RESPONSES TO
06:30:48.124 --> 06:30:53.062
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. 80 27 90 THIS
06:30:53.129 --> 06:30:54.531
CENTERING SURVIVORS SAFETY AND
06:30:54.597 --> 06:30:56.666
HEALTH ACT. THAT'S EXACTLY THAT
06:30:56.733 --> 06:30:59.135
BY ALLOWING ABUSE SURVIVORS TO
06:30:59.202 --> 06:30:59.669
GET MEDICAL CARE WITHOUT
06:30:59.736 --> 06:31:03.406
MANDATING POLICE INVOLVEMENT.
06:31:03.473 --> 06:31:04.941
IMAGINE MYSTIC VIOLENCE CLINIC.
06:31:05.008 --> 06:31:07.644
I SEE CLIENTS AFRAID OF SEEKING
06:31:07.710 --> 06:31:08.878
HEALTHCARE BECAUSE OF
06:31:08.945 --> 06:31:09.846
CALIFORNIA'S MEDICAL MANDATORY
06:31:09.913 --> 06:31:12.782
REPORTING TO POLICE. ADULT
06:31:12.849 --> 06:31:15.151
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CLIENT
06:31:15.218 --> 06:31:16.686
REVEALED THAT WHEN SHE ATTEMPTED
06:31:16.753 --> 06:31:18.822
TO BREAK UP WITH HER ABUSIVE
06:31:18.888 --> 06:31:20.557
BOYFRIEND, HE BEAT HER HORRIBLY
06:31:20.623 --> 06:31:21.925
, SAYING HE WOULD LEAVE HER WITH
06:31:21.991 --> 06:31:23.059
SCARRED BY WHICH TO REMEMBER
06:31:23.126 --> 06:31:25.795
HIM. FATHER. SHE WAS BADLY
06:31:25.862 --> 06:31:26.930
INJURED. SHE DIDN'T SEEK MEDICAL
06:31:26.996 --> 06:31:29.799
CARE. LATER SAYING SHE FEARED
06:31:29.866 --> 06:31:32.602
THE POLICE IN DEPORTATION MORE
06:31:32.669 --> 06:31:34.404
THAN SHE WANTED MEDICAL CARE A
06:31:34.470 --> 06:31:36.973
CHOICE. NO ONE SHOULD FACE MY
06:31:37.040 --> 06:31:38.107
CLIENTS WHO DO THINK MEDICAL
06:31:38.174 --> 06:31:40.710
CARE. THEY OFTEN DON'T DISCLOSE
06:31:40.777 --> 06:31:43.546
THE CAUSE OF HARM DUE TO FEAR OF
06:31:43.613 --> 06:31:45.915
UNWANTED POLICE CONTACT WITH
06:31:45.982 --> 06:31:47.250
OUTPATIENT DISCLOSURES, DOCTORS
06:31:47.317 --> 06:31:48.351
AREN'T ABLE TO OFFER SAFETY
06:31:48.418 --> 06:31:53.156
RESOURCES. OR DOCUMENT THE ABUSE
06:31:53.223 --> 06:31:54.824
WAS WELL INTENTIONED WHEN YOU
06:31:54.891 --> 06:31:56.326
ACTED, OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
06:31:56.392 --> 06:31:58.595
SERVICES HAVE EVOLVED SO MUCH,
06:31:58.661 --> 06:32:00.363
AND A CURRENT RESEARCH IS
06:32:00.430 --> 06:32:01.764
CONSISTENT WITH ALL THAT
06:32:01.831 --> 06:32:02.232
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WICKS
06:32:02.298 --> 06:32:06.135
IDENTIFIED DOING DEAD, THE
06:32:06.202 --> 06:32:07.604
EXPERIENCE OF MEDICAL MANDATORY
06:32:07.670 --> 06:32:08.838
REPORTING OFTEN DOCTOR MAKES THE
06:32:08.905 --> 06:32:10.540
SITUATION MUCH WORSE OR SOMEWHAT
06:32:10.607 --> 06:32:14.177
WORSE. IN CONTRAST, THOUGH, WHEN
06:32:14.244 --> 06:32:15.678
SURVIVORS ARE ABLE TO OPENLY
06:32:15.745 --> 06:32:17.714
DISCLOSE ABUSE IN YOUR SOUP AND
06:32:17.780 --> 06:32:18.948
DOCTORS WITHOUT FEAR OF POLICE
06:32:19.015 --> 06:32:20.884
INVOLVEMENT THERE FOUR TIMES
06:32:20.950 --> 06:32:21.651
MORE LIKELY TO UTILIZE DOMESTIC
06:32:21.718 --> 06:32:23.219
VIOLENCE RESOURCES. AND
06:32:23.286 --> 06:32:28.258
AGENCIES. IN CONCLUSION. CURRENT
06:32:28.324 --> 06:32:29.659
LAW CRIMINALIZES MEDICAL
06:32:29.726 --> 06:32:31.961
PROFESSIONALS TO REPORT DOMESTIC
06:32:32.028 --> 06:32:33.396
VIOLENCE AND PRESUMES POLICE
06:32:33.463 --> 06:32:36.633
REPORTING AS THE SOLUTION. MORE
06:32:36.699 --> 06:32:38.635
THAN EVER. CALIFORNIA STANDS FOR
06:32:38.701 --> 06:32:40.703
SUPPORTING ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE
06:32:40.770 --> 06:32:42.171
AND THE GRANT AND AGAINST
06:32:42.238 --> 06:32:42.872
CRIMINALIZING DOCTORS FOR
06:32:42.939 --> 06:32:45.408
SUPPORTING PATIENTS CHOICE. AT
06:32:45.475 --> 06:32:46.342
THE CALIFORNIA NURSES
06:32:46.409 --> 06:32:50.813
ASSOCIATION STATES. 80 27 90
06:32:50.880 --> 06:32:52.315
MANDATES SURVIVOR SUPPORT
06:32:52.382 --> 06:32:53.917
INSTEAD OF MANDATING POLICE
06:32:53.983 --> 06:32:55.118
REPORT. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
06:32:55.184 --> 06:32:59.022
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
06:32:59.088 --> 06:33:00.957
YOU NEXT, MR EARL, YOU HAVE TWO
06:33:01.024 --> 06:33:04.827
MINUTES. QUÊ GOOD AFTERNOON
06:33:04.894 --> 06:33:07.163
CHAIR BRADFORD AND SENATORS
06:33:07.230 --> 06:33:09.299
KAREN EARL, CEO OF GENESIS
06:33:09.365 --> 06:33:11.234
CENTER OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
06:33:11.301 --> 06:33:11.801
INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION
06:33:11.868 --> 06:33:14.904
PROGRAM IN SOUTH LOS ANGELES.
06:33:14.971 --> 06:33:17.040
FOUNDED BY FIVE BLACK WOMEN MORE
06:33:17.106 --> 06:33:19.175
THAN 42 YEARS AGO WITH A FOCUS
06:33:19.242 --> 06:33:21.577
ON THIS UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY,
06:33:21.644 --> 06:33:22.745
GENESEE OFFERS COMPREHENSIVE,
06:33:22.812 --> 06:33:23.713
CULTURALLY SPECIFIC PROGRAMS TO
06:33:23.780 --> 06:33:28.184
MOVE. MORE THAN 1300 SURVIVORS
06:33:28.251 --> 06:33:30.286
EACH YEAR, LITERALLY MOVING
06:33:30.353 --> 06:33:31.955
CLIENTS FROM CRISIS TO SELF
06:33:32.021 --> 06:33:34.791
SUFFICIENCY. I'M HERE TODAY TO
06:33:34.857 --> 06:33:37.226
STRONGLY SUPPORT A B 27 90 A
06:33:37.293 --> 06:33:39.295
SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD IN
06:33:39.362 --> 06:33:40.997
RECOGNIZING THAT MANDATED
06:33:41.064 --> 06:33:43.199
REPORTING IS NOT A SURVIVOR
06:33:43.266 --> 06:33:45.101
CENTERED OR TRAUMA, INFORMED
06:33:45.168 --> 06:33:46.269
RESPONSE WHEN A VICTIM COMES
06:33:46.336 --> 06:33:49.706
FORWARD TO SEEK CARE MANDATED
06:33:49.772 --> 06:33:51.908
REPORTING OFTEN PUTS VICTIMS IN
06:33:51.975 --> 06:33:53.943
GREATER DANGER OF HARM, STRIPS
06:33:54.010 --> 06:33:55.845
THEM OF THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT
06:33:55.912 --> 06:33:57.814
IS BEST AND SAFEST FOR THEM AND
06:33:57.880 --> 06:33:58.948
THEIR CHILDREN AND UNDERMINES
06:33:59.015 --> 06:34:01.918
THE DOCTOR PATIENT RELATIONSHIP.
06:34:01.985 --> 06:34:03.653
A RECENT GENESEE CLIENTS
06:34:03.720 --> 06:34:05.621
EXPERIENCE HORRIFIC ACTS OF
06:34:05.688 --> 06:34:07.590
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND INTO THE
06:34:07.657 --> 06:34:09.525
PROGRAM WITH MULTIPLE UNTREATED
06:34:09.592 --> 06:34:12.195
INJURIES BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID
06:34:12.261 --> 06:34:13.997
TO GO TO THE DOCTOR OR CALL THE
06:34:14.063 --> 06:34:15.932
POLICE FOR FEAR OF LOSING HER
06:34:15.999 --> 06:34:18.434
CHILDREN. SHE HAD DEEP INFECTED
06:34:18.501 --> 06:34:20.837
WOUNDS WHEN SHE GOT TO US, AND
06:34:20.903 --> 06:34:21.871
DOCTORS FEARED SHE COULD LOSE
06:34:21.938 --> 06:34:23.840
HER LEG INSTEAD OF MANDATED
06:34:23.906 --> 06:34:26.142
REPORTING. A B 27 90 FOCUSES ON
06:34:26.209 --> 06:34:27.310
SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGES
06:34:27.377 --> 06:34:30.580
REFERRALS. THE COMMUNITY BASED
06:34:30.646 --> 06:34:32.148
PARTNERS FOR SERVICES THAT
06:34:32.215 --> 06:34:33.850
VICTIMS REALLY NEED TO MAKE
06:34:33.916 --> 06:34:35.318
INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT
06:34:35.385 --> 06:34:37.053
ESCAPING THE ABUSE. THEY'RE
06:34:37.120 --> 06:34:39.689
EXPERIENCING GENESIS WORK WITH
06:34:39.756 --> 06:34:40.556
THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND
06:34:40.623 --> 06:34:42.658
HEALTHCARE COUNCIL, FUNDED BY
06:34:42.725 --> 06:34:44.327
BLUE SHIELD OF CALIFORNIA HAS
06:34:44.394 --> 06:34:46.462
SHOWN US THAT MEDICAL PROVIDERS
06:34:46.529 --> 06:34:47.697
CAN BE POWERFUL ALLIES AND FIRST
06:34:47.764 --> 06:34:51.000
RESPONDERS FOR DV VICTIMS. THE
06:34:51.067 --> 06:34:53.169
CURRENT MANDATING REPORTING LAWS
06:34:53.236 --> 06:34:55.171
OFTEN IMPOSED UNNECESSARY
06:34:55.238 --> 06:34:58.174
BARRIERS TO SUCH SUPPORT. I
06:34:58.241 --> 06:34:59.475
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
06:34:59.542 --> 06:35:03.212
SUPPORT OF A B 27 90. THANK YOU.
06:35:03.279 --> 06:35:04.714
YOU ARE THERE ANY OTHER
06:35:04.781 --> 06:35:06.949
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM 1 12
06:35:07.016 --> 06:35:08.051
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
06:35:08.117 --> 06:35:17.860
OF A B 27 90. GOOD EVENING.
06:35:17.927 --> 06:35:19.862
GLENN BECK IS FOR THE L. A BAKER
06:35:19.929 --> 06:35:20.930
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND
06:35:20.997 --> 06:35:22.098
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SEE NO ONE
06:35:22.165 --> 06:35:23.666
ELSE COMING TO THE MICROPHONE
06:35:23.733 --> 06:35:24.934
MODERATOR. LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
06:35:25.001 --> 06:35:26.035
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
06:35:26.102 --> 06:35:27.403
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. OF A B 27
06:35:27.470 --> 06:35:33.142
90. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR WILL GO
06:35:33.209 --> 06:35:35.878
TO LINE 2 73, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
06:35:35.945 --> 06:35:37.246
GOOD AFTERNOON, ERIC MORRISON
06:35:37.313 --> 06:35:38.848
SMITH, WITH THE ALLIANCE OF MEN
06:35:38.915 --> 06:35:40.583
OF COLOR WERE CO SPONSORS AND
06:35:40.650 --> 06:35:41.751
THE TRUMP SUPPORTED THIS BILL.
06:35:41.818 --> 06:35:47.290
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
06:35:47.356 --> 06:35:51.227
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, REBECA
06:35:51.294 --> 06:35:52.128
GONZALEZ FOR THE NATIONAL
06:35:52.195 --> 06:35:53.863
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS.
06:35:53.930 --> 06:35:54.897
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER RIGHT? STRONG
06:35:54.964 --> 06:36:00.870
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. FLYING TO
06:36:00.937 --> 06:36:05.374
76. PLEASE GO AHEAD. LIFE
06:36:05.441 --> 06:36:06.342
VENTURE ON BEHALF OF THE
06:36:06.409 --> 06:36:08.411
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF O B. G. Y. N
06:36:08.478 --> 06:36:10.646
IS JUST NINE REALLY APPRECIATE
06:36:10.713 --> 06:36:11.180
THE AUTHOR AND THE RECENT
06:36:11.247 --> 06:36:13.216
AMENDMENTS AND ALL THE WORK OF
06:36:13.282 --> 06:36:14.317
THEIR STAFF WERE PROUD TO
06:36:14.383 --> 06:36:15.485
SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU.
06:36:15.551 --> 06:36:19.255
THANK YOU. FIND 2 88, PLEASE GO
06:36:19.322 --> 06:36:24.026
AHEAD. THIS IS AARON EVANS ON
06:36:24.093 --> 06:36:26.229
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA NURSE
06:36:26.295 --> 06:36:27.196
MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
06:36:27.263 --> 06:36:30.399
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FIND 2 81,
06:36:30.466 --> 06:36:34.504
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING,
06:36:34.570 --> 06:36:35.538
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. CURTIS,
06:36:35.605 --> 06:36:36.906
ALONG WITH THE CALIFORNIA NURSES
06:36:36.973 --> 06:36:38.207
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT
06:36:38.274 --> 06:36:40.476
OF A B 2 27 90. THANK YOU. THANK
06:36:40.543 --> 06:36:46.249
YOU. FLYING TO 38. PLEASE GO
06:36:46.315 --> 06:36:51.721
AHEAD. CAITLYN DEAN FROM A C L U
06:36:51.787 --> 06:36:52.889
CALIFORNIA ACTION IN STRONG
06:36:52.955 --> 06:36:57.426
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 2 80,
06:36:57.493 --> 06:37:02.765
PLEASE GO AHEAD. SAY THIS IS DR
06:37:02.832 --> 06:37:04.200
RACHEL ROBOTS, FAMILY MEDICINE
06:37:04.267 --> 06:37:06.135
AND POSITION AND SURVIVOR OF
06:37:06.202 --> 06:37:07.236
SEXUAL ISLANDS. UH BEGINNING
06:37:07.303 --> 06:37:12.575
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE
06:37:12.642 --> 06:37:23.386
1 82, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
06:37:23.452 --> 06:37:24.520
PSYCHOLOGIST. FIND 1 82, PLEASE
06:37:24.587 --> 06:37:30.893
GO AHEAD. THIS IS KATE BANNER
06:37:30.960 --> 06:37:32.862
TIG AS A FORMER DOMESTIC
06:37:32.929 --> 06:37:33.729
VIOLENCE AND RAPE CRISIS
06:37:33.796 --> 06:37:36.299
ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF FEATURES
06:37:36.365 --> 06:37:36.899
ABOUT VIOLENCE IN SUPPORT AND
06:37:36.966 --> 06:37:41.037
URGE YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU.
06:37:41.103 --> 06:37:45.808
FIND 2 85, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
06:37:45.875 --> 06:37:47.910
MY NAME IS AN ISA ALI. I'M
06:37:47.977 --> 06:37:48.844
CALLING ON BEHALF OF FUTURES
06:37:48.911 --> 06:37:50.246
WITHOUT VIOLENCE AND THE PROUD
06:37:50.313 --> 06:37:52.448
CO SPONSOR OF THE BILL, AND AS A
06:37:52.515 --> 06:37:53.783
SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
06:37:53.849 --> 06:37:55.751
AND I REQUEST YOUR I VOTE ON
06:37:55.818 --> 06:38:00.323
THIS SELF. THANK YOU. LINE. 205,
06:38:00.389 --> 06:38:05.061
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI. THIS IS
06:38:05.127 --> 06:38:06.662
ALEX, UM, CALLING ON BEHALF OF
06:38:06.729 --> 06:38:08.130
THE COUNTRY RESPONSE TO DOMESTIC
06:38:08.197 --> 06:38:09.232
ROUTES NETWORK AND STRONG
06:38:09.298 --> 06:38:10.833
SUPPORT OF A B 27 90. THANK YOU.
06:38:10.900 --> 06:38:15.304
THANK YOU. LINE 2 70, PLEASE GO
06:38:15.371 --> 06:38:19.575
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
06:38:19.642 --> 06:38:21.177
ALLISON MESSENGER WITH GENESEE
06:38:21.244 --> 06:38:23.179
CENTER AND STRONG SUPPORTED ABBY
06:38:23.246 --> 06:38:25.081
TO 70. 27 90. EXCUSE ME. THANK
06:38:25.147 --> 06:38:29.885
YOU. APPLYING TO ANYONE. PLEASE
06:38:29.952 --> 06:38:34.757
GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. IT'S THE
06:38:34.824 --> 06:38:36.259
TRUTH. RIVERA WITH ANGELES
06:38:36.325 --> 06:38:37.393
WOMEN'S CENTER, WHEREAS STRONG
06:38:37.460 --> 06:38:39.428
SUPPORT OF A B 27 90. THANK YOU.
06:38:39.495 --> 06:38:44.000
THANK YOU. LINE 2 90, PLEASE GO
06:38:44.066 --> 06:38:48.671
AHEAD. PAIN IN FLORIDA, SOME OF
06:38:48.738 --> 06:38:50.106
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE WITH
06:38:50.172 --> 06:38:51.507
COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS AND ALSO
06:38:51.574 --> 06:38:52.942
SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
06:38:53.009 --> 06:38:54.176
AND CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
06:38:54.243 --> 06:38:59.248
27 90. THANK YOU. FIND 2 93,
06:38:59.315 --> 06:39:04.086
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
06:39:04.153 --> 06:39:06.055
DR CANDACE BURTON. I AM A
06:39:06.122 --> 06:39:07.523
FORENSIC NURSE, THE LAST 12
06:39:07.590 --> 06:39:09.025
YEARS AND ALSO A SURVIVOR OF
06:39:09.091 --> 06:39:10.860
FAMILY VIOLENCE. I AM CALLING IN
06:39:10.926 --> 06:39:12.728
VERY STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 27
06:39:12.795 --> 06:39:18.301
90. THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA LINE
06:39:18.367 --> 06:39:22.004
TO 96. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THIS
06:39:22.071 --> 06:39:23.372
IS REBECCA MIRANDA FROM BEHALF
06:39:23.439 --> 06:39:24.874
OF THE LOS ANGELES CORMAN CENTER
06:39:24.940 --> 06:39:26.642
AT LFC UFC MEDICAL CENTER, AND
06:39:26.709 --> 06:39:32.848
WE'RE IN SUPPORT. FLYING TO 94.
06:39:32.915 --> 06:39:39.221
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I THIS IS NORA
06:39:39.288 --> 06:39:41.624
FRANCO. I AM A MEDICAL LIBRARIAN
06:39:41.691 --> 06:39:43.159
, ALSO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
06:39:43.225 --> 06:39:45.294
SURVIVOR AND I'M CALLING ON
06:39:45.361 --> 06:39:47.530
BEHALF OF DPH, DIVERSE AND
06:39:47.596 --> 06:39:49.498
STRONG SUPPORT OF 80 TO 27 90.
06:39:49.565 --> 06:39:53.936
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINE. 300,
06:39:54.003 --> 06:39:59.542
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS DR
06:39:59.608 --> 06:40:01.644
DEBORAH COHEN. I AM AN O. B G. Y
06:40:01.711 --> 06:40:03.446
N PHYSICIAN AT SAN FRANCISCO
06:40:03.512 --> 06:40:05.147
GENERAL HOSPITAL, AND I'M
06:40:05.214 --> 06:40:06.916
CALLING IN VERY STRONG SUPPORT
06:40:06.982 --> 06:40:09.018
OF A B 2790. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:40:09.085 --> 06:40:14.357
QUÊ. AND MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO
06:40:14.423 --> 06:40:16.726
ONE ELSE IN Q AT THIS TIME,
06:40:16.792 --> 06:40:18.761
OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO TO OPPOSITION
06:40:18.828 --> 06:40:20.963
AND WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY
06:40:21.030 --> 06:40:22.198
WITNESSES IN OUR POSITION. WE
06:40:22.264 --> 06:40:24.066
HAVE A HILLARY LARKIN AND
06:40:24.133 --> 06:40:26.135
CHOICE. WILL YOU? BUILDING. OK,
06:40:26.202 --> 06:40:30.840
BALOO. HI. GOOD EVENING. I'D
06:40:30.906 --> 06:40:33.509
LIKE TO COMMEND THE COMMITTEE ON
06:40:33.576 --> 06:40:34.543
THEIR PERSEVERANCE THROUGH THIS
06:40:34.610 --> 06:40:37.346
AMAZING AGENDA TODAY. MY NAME IS
06:40:37.413 --> 06:40:39.115
HILLARY LORCAN. I'M A PHYSICIAN
06:40:39.181 --> 06:40:40.916
ASSISTANT. I AM A 30 YEAR
06:40:40.983 --> 06:40:42.785
VETERAN. OF THE EMERGENCY
06:40:42.852 --> 06:40:44.286
DEPARTMENT AT HIGHLAND HOSPITAL
06:40:44.353 --> 06:40:47.289
AND ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF START
06:40:47.356 --> 06:40:48.724
IN DV SERVICES IN THE EMERGENCY
06:40:48.791 --> 06:40:50.526
DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE
06:40:50.593 --> 06:40:51.827
FOUNDER OF THE DOMESTIC AMOUNTS
06:40:51.894 --> 06:40:53.329
FATALITY REVIEW TEAM. AN
06:40:53.396 --> 06:40:55.765
ELEVATED COUNTY. I AM
06:40:55.831 --> 06:40:57.633
REPRESENTING CAL SAFE. THE
06:40:57.700 --> 06:40:59.068
CALIFORNIA SEXUAL ASSAULT,
06:40:59.135 --> 06:41:00.236
FORENSIC EXAMINERS AND A
06:41:00.302 --> 06:41:03.506
COALITION OF MULTIDISCIPLINARY
06:41:03.572 --> 06:41:05.641
PROVIDERS WHO ARE ACTIVELY
06:41:05.708 --> 06:41:07.176
PROVIDING MEDICAL FORENSIC EXAMS
06:41:07.243 --> 06:41:08.411
FOR VICTIMS OF INTERPERSONAL
06:41:08.477 --> 06:41:12.415
VIOLENCE. WE AGREE THAT THE LAW
06:41:12.481 --> 06:41:13.482
SHOULD BE AMENDED IN THE
06:41:13.549 --> 06:41:14.550
LANGUAGE AROUND REPORTING TO BE
06:41:14.617 --> 06:41:16.886
CLARIFIED. BUT OUR CONCERN IS
06:41:16.952 --> 06:41:17.887
FOR THE MOST SEVERELY INJURED
06:41:17.953 --> 06:41:19.455
PATIENTS THAT ARE SEEN IN THE
06:41:19.522 --> 06:41:20.990
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT WHO ARE
06:41:21.056 --> 06:41:22.091
INJURED WITH SOMETHING OTHER
06:41:22.158 --> 06:41:25.327
THAN FIREARMS IN ALAMEDA COUNTY.
06:41:25.394 --> 06:41:28.998
THE D V NONFATAL DV VICTIMS SEEN
06:41:29.064 --> 06:41:31.133
IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, 94%
06:41:31.200 --> 06:41:33.035
SUFFERED BLUNT TRAUMA, STABBING
06:41:33.102 --> 06:41:34.170
STRANGULATION INJURIES AND ONLY
06:41:34.236 --> 06:41:38.741
FOR AH WERE VICTIMS OF FIREARM
06:41:38.808 --> 06:41:41.844
INJURIES. IN CONTRAST, 50% OF
06:41:41.911 --> 06:41:43.612
THE DEVI HOMICIDES WERE A RESULT
06:41:43.679 --> 06:41:46.248
OF FIREARM INJURIES. IF WE
06:41:46.315 --> 06:41:47.950
ELIMINATE IF WE LIMIT MANDATED
06:41:48.017 --> 06:41:49.285
REPORTING TO FIREARMS, AS
06:41:49.351 --> 06:41:51.020
OPPOSED IN THIS BILL, WE WILL IT
06:41:51.086 --> 06:41:52.888
WILL BE TOO LATE FOR THE VAST
06:41:52.955 --> 06:41:55.391
MAJORITY OF VICTIMS OF DV. THE
06:41:55.458 --> 06:41:57.893
BILL ELIMINATES DEVI REPORTING
06:41:57.960 --> 06:41:59.428
OF DEVIANT SEXUAL ASSAULT AND
06:41:59.495 --> 06:42:00.930
REPLACES IT WITH PERMISSIVE
06:42:00.996 --> 06:42:03.933
REPORTING IN LIGHT OF THE LAST
06:42:03.999 --> 06:42:05.067
TWO YEARS OF PANDEMIC AND THE
06:42:05.134 --> 06:42:05.701
CURRENT CRISIS OF UNDERSTAFFED
06:42:05.768 --> 06:42:08.871
AND OVERCROWDED HOSPITALS.
06:42:08.938 --> 06:42:10.906
PERMISSIVE WILL TRANSLATE INTO
06:42:10.973 --> 06:42:13.342
OPTIONAL REPORTING EVEN FOR
06:42:13.409 --> 06:42:14.543
THOSE DV VICTIMS WHO WANT THE
06:42:14.610 --> 06:42:19.415
POLICE TO BE SUMMONED. VICTIMS
06:42:19.482 --> 06:42:21.784
WILL BE HANDED A POLICE AND
06:42:21.851 --> 06:42:23.352
LOCAL ADVOCACY PHONE NUMBER AND
06:42:23.419 --> 06:42:24.787
BE DISCHARGED FROM THE
06:42:24.854 --> 06:42:25.921
OVERWHELMED EMERGENCY
06:42:25.988 --> 06:42:27.957
DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL HAVE MET
06:42:28.023 --> 06:42:29.024
THEIR OBLIGATION UNDER THE NEW
06:42:29.091 --> 06:42:29.792
LAW BY QUOTE UNQUOTE PROVIDING
06:42:29.859 --> 06:42:34.497
REFERRALS. IF THE PROPOSAL IS TO
06:42:34.563 --> 06:42:36.065
ELIMINATE MANDATORY REPORTING
06:42:36.131 --> 06:42:37.533
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE NEED AN
06:42:37.600 --> 06:42:39.268
EQUAL RESPONSE BY HAVING BEDSIDE
06:42:39.335 --> 06:42:41.270
ADVOCACY PREPARED TO PROVIDE
06:42:41.337 --> 06:42:42.905
CONCRETE, IMMEDIATE SURFACES
06:42:42.972 --> 06:42:45.875
LIKE SHELTER, FOOD AND CLOTHING.
06:42:45.941 --> 06:42:47.443
ELIMINATING LAW ENFORCEMENT
06:42:47.510 --> 06:42:49.712
MANDATORY REPORTING VICTIMS WILL
06:42:49.778 --> 06:42:53.249
LOSE ACCESS TO VICTIM WITNESS
06:42:53.315 --> 06:42:55.551
INTO BCB RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE
06:42:55.618 --> 06:42:57.319
AVAILABLE TO THEM UNDER THE
06:42:57.386 --> 06:43:02.992
CURRENT LAW. BEDSIDE ADVOCACY IS
06:43:03.058 --> 06:43:04.426
A PROVEN GOLD STANDARD. THIS
06:43:04.493 --> 06:43:05.995
BILL ONLY REQUIRES A REFERRAL TO
06:43:06.061 --> 06:43:07.830
ABBOTT ADVOCACY. DESPITE THE
06:43:07.897 --> 06:43:09.064
FACT THAT BEING HANDED A PHONE
06:43:09.131 --> 06:43:10.866
NUMBER IS NOT TRAUMA INFORMED.
06:43:10.933 --> 06:43:12.368
AND HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE
06:43:12.434 --> 06:43:14.670
INEFFECTIVE. CAL SAFEST HAD
06:43:14.737 --> 06:43:16.171
COUNTLESS MEETINGS WITH THE
06:43:16.238 --> 06:43:17.706
BILL'S AUTHORS AND SPONSORS. AND
06:43:17.773 --> 06:43:19.141
TODAY WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS
06:43:19.208 --> 06:43:20.843
THAN ANSWERS. THIS BILL WAS
06:43:20.910 --> 06:43:22.878
DRAFTED BY FUTURES WITH NO INPUT
06:43:22.945 --> 06:43:24.446
FROM THOSE OF US WHO UNDERSTAND
06:43:24.513 --> 06:43:25.481
THE ACTUAL CHALLENGES OF
06:43:25.548 --> 06:43:27.883
PROVIDING CARE. TO MEDICAL
06:43:27.950 --> 06:43:29.418
PROVIDING FORENSIC MEDICAL EXAMS
06:43:29.485 --> 06:43:31.086
TO VICTIMS OF GENDER BASED
06:43:31.153 --> 06:43:33.756
VIOLENCE. OTHERS HAVE PRESENTED
06:43:33.822 --> 06:43:35.090
ONE SIDED RESEARCH, MOST OF
06:43:35.157 --> 06:43:36.792
WHICH HAS BEEN CONDUCTED OUTSIDE
06:43:36.859 --> 06:43:38.260
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
06:43:38.327 --> 06:43:39.762
WITHOUT FULL UNDERSTANDING OF
06:43:39.828 --> 06:43:40.863
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE UNINTENDED
06:43:40.930 --> 06:43:41.864
CONSEQUENCES THAT THIS LANGUAGE
06:43:41.931 --> 06:43:45.334
CREATES. MANDATORY REPORTING HAS
06:43:45.401 --> 06:43:46.969
BEEN IN PLACE IN CALIFORNIA FOR
06:43:47.036 --> 06:43:48.771
28 YEARS. AMENDMENTS TO THE
06:43:48.837 --> 06:43:49.939
PENAL CODE CAN AND SHOULD BE
06:43:50.005 --> 06:43:52.441
MADE. BUT NOT WITHOUT A
06:43:52.508 --> 06:43:54.276
MULTIDISCIPLINARY COLLABORATIVE
06:43:54.343 --> 06:43:55.844
COLLABORATION PROVIDERS THAT ARE
06:43:55.911 --> 06:43:57.012
CURRENTLY WORKING IN CALIFORNIA
06:43:57.079 --> 06:43:58.414
, PROVIDING PATIENT CENTERED
06:43:58.480 --> 06:44:00.683
TRAUMA INFORMED CARE. WE URGE A
06:44:00.749 --> 06:44:02.885
VOTE NO ON THIS BILL AND ALLOW
06:44:02.952 --> 06:44:04.053
US TO CRAFT BETTER LANGUAGE.
06:44:04.119 --> 06:44:06.922
THAT WILL THAT WE KNOW WILL
06:44:06.989 --> 06:44:08.290
INCREASE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
06:44:08.357 --> 06:44:10.059
FOR THIS VULNERABLE POPULATION.
06:44:10.125 --> 06:44:11.126
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
06:44:11.193 --> 06:44:15.631
WITNESS. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
06:44:15.698 --> 06:44:17.399
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOYCE
06:44:17.466 --> 06:44:18.834
BLUE. AND I'M A SURVIVOR OF
06:44:18.901 --> 06:44:20.035
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SPEAKING
06:44:20.102 --> 06:44:21.904
ON BEHALF OF A LARGE COALITION
06:44:21.971 --> 06:44:24.573
OF OPPONENTS TO A B 27 90 IN
06:44:24.640 --> 06:44:25.541
PARTICULAR STATEWIDE SURVIVORS
06:44:25.608 --> 06:44:29.411
NETWORK. AS A SURVIVOR. I WENT
06:44:29.478 --> 06:44:30.479
TO THE HOSPITAL MANY TIMES
06:44:30.546 --> 06:44:31.981
THROUGHOUT MY 10 YEARS OF
06:44:32.047 --> 06:44:33.449
MARRIAGE AS A RESULT OF BEING
06:44:33.515 --> 06:44:35.017
ABUSED. I HAVE, I WOULD HAVE
06:44:35.084 --> 06:44:36.852
WELCOMED AT THAT TIME FOR MY
06:44:36.919 --> 06:44:37.953
HEALTH CARE PROVIDER TO REPORT
06:44:38.020 --> 06:44:39.722
TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. BECAUSE IT
06:44:39.788 --> 06:44:41.657
WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE BURDEN OFF
06:44:41.724 --> 06:44:42.625
ME IF I HEALTHCARE PROVIDER
06:44:42.691 --> 06:44:44.026
REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE
06:44:44.093 --> 06:44:45.861
VERY FIRST TIME I WENT TO THE
06:44:45.928 --> 06:44:47.062
ER, I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE
06:44:47.129 --> 06:44:48.664
PREVENTED FURTHER ABUSE BY MY
06:44:48.731 --> 06:44:49.865
HUSBAND, SUCH AS BEING STRANGLED
06:44:49.932 --> 06:44:52.534
SEVERAL TIMES RECEIVING BROKEN
06:44:52.601 --> 06:44:54.036
BONES AND INTERNAL INJURIES AND
06:44:54.103 --> 06:44:55.571
BEING ASSAULTED BY EIGHT MONTHS
06:44:55.638 --> 06:44:57.139
PREGNANT AND OTHER ASSAULTS ON
06:44:57.206 --> 06:44:59.274
ME, WHICH EVENTUALLY ENDED AFTER
06:44:59.341 --> 06:45:00.743
10 YEARS OF ABUSE WITH HIM
06:45:00.809 --> 06:45:01.577
SHOOTING AT ME WITH AN ASSAULT
06:45:01.644 --> 06:45:03.445
WEAPON, WHICH HAD 20 ROUNDS IN
06:45:03.512 --> 06:45:06.315
IT. AND HE DID THIS IN FRONT OF
06:45:06.382 --> 06:45:07.650
OUR SMALL CHILDREN, AND HE WAS
06:45:07.716 --> 06:45:09.218
NEVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
06:45:09.284 --> 06:45:10.619
THE ONLY REASON I'M STANDING
06:45:10.686 --> 06:45:12.321
HERE TODAY IN THIS ROOM IS
06:45:12.388 --> 06:45:13.856
BECAUSE THE GUN JAMMED ON THE
06:45:13.922 --> 06:45:14.857
THIRD ROUND, WHICH WENT THROUGH
06:45:14.923 --> 06:45:16.792
MY HAIR AND MADE ME FALL ON THE
06:45:16.859 --> 06:45:19.428
GROUND. SPENCE THAT TIME I HAVE
06:45:19.495 --> 06:45:21.096
BEEN WORKING WITH SURVIVORS FOR
06:45:21.163 --> 06:45:23.799
OVER 40.5 YEARS NOW AS A
06:45:23.866 --> 06:45:26.568
PROFESSIONAL, AND I CAN TELL YOU
06:45:26.635 --> 06:45:27.670
I HAVE NEVER, EVER ONCE
06:45:27.736 --> 06:45:29.405
ENCOUNTERED A VICTIM. NOT
06:45:29.471 --> 06:45:31.040
WANTING TO GET THE MEDICAL
06:45:31.106 --> 06:45:31.640
TREATMENT THEY NEEDED OUT OF
06:45:31.707 --> 06:45:34.510
FEAR OF BEING REPORT REPORT
06:45:34.576 --> 06:45:35.778
BEING MADE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
06:45:35.844 --> 06:45:37.880
JUST IMAGINE IF YOUR DAUGHTER OR
06:45:37.946 --> 06:45:41.150
YOUR KNEES OR YOUR GRAND CHILD
06:45:41.216 --> 06:45:42.918
OR YOUR MOTHER WENT TO THE
06:45:42.985 --> 06:45:44.887
EMERGENCY ROOM WITH A STAB WOUND
06:45:44.953 --> 06:45:46.055
OR BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING
06:45:46.121 --> 06:45:47.790
TRAFFICKED OR STRANGLED AND LEFT
06:45:47.856 --> 06:45:49.658
FOR DEAD. YOU WOULD WANT SOMEONE
06:45:49.725 --> 06:45:51.026
TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR
06:45:51.093 --> 06:45:52.061
HURTING THEM AND FOR BREAKING
06:45:52.127 --> 06:45:54.897
THE LAW. FUTURES WITHOUT
06:45:54.963 --> 06:45:56.865
VIOLENCE HAS MISREPRESENTED WHAT
06:45:56.932 --> 06:45:58.167
SURVIVORS THINK ABOUT MEDICAL
06:45:58.233 --> 06:46:00.903
MANDATED REPORTING. THE ONLY
06:46:00.969 --> 06:46:02.504
MAJOR SURVEY OF SURVIVORS IN
06:46:02.571 --> 06:46:04.707
2000 AND EIGHT BY DR JACKIE
06:46:04.773 --> 06:46:05.708
CAMPBELL OUT OF HOPKINS
06:46:05.774 --> 06:46:08.444
UNIVERSITY. FOUND THAT 59% OF
06:46:08.510 --> 06:46:11.046
WOMEN AND 59% OF SURVIVOR
06:46:11.113 --> 06:46:13.749
SUPPORT REPORTING, ESPECIALLY
06:46:13.816 --> 06:46:14.683
WHEN THEY ARE TWO INJURED OR
06:46:14.750 --> 06:46:17.086
TERRIFIED TO DO SO THEMSELVES BY
06:46:17.152 --> 06:46:18.687
PUTTING TOGETHER A BILL WITHOUT
06:46:18.754 --> 06:46:20.723
A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE DATA.
06:46:20.789 --> 06:46:22.524
AND TRULY, POLIAN, IN HEARING
06:46:22.591 --> 06:46:25.160
FROM SURVIVORS IS JUST UNFAIR
06:46:25.227 --> 06:46:27.629
AND OUTRIGHT OFFENSIVE. IT RE
06:46:27.696 --> 06:46:29.865
VICTIMIZES SURVIVORS. THE
06:46:29.932 --> 06:46:31.233
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS BUILD AND
06:46:31.300 --> 06:46:31.800
NOT INCLUDE FAMILY JUSTICE
06:46:31.867 --> 06:46:32.735
CENTERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT
06:46:32.801 --> 06:46:36.038
PROFESSIONALS. FORENSIC DOCTORS
06:46:36.105 --> 06:46:37.673
AND NURSES PROSECUTORS AND DID
06:46:37.740 --> 06:46:40.676
NOT INCLUDE ANY FORMER REVIEW OF
06:46:40.743 --> 06:46:42.177
THE CURRENT REPORTING LAW THAT'S
06:46:42.244 --> 06:46:43.812
BEEN IN PLACE FOR 28 YEARS AND
06:46:43.879 --> 06:46:47.349
DID NOT INCLUDE ONE SURVIVOR. IT
06:46:47.416 --> 06:46:51.887
HAS BEEN. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
06:46:51.954 --> 06:46:53.756
THAT THIS BILL HAS BEEN REVIEWED
06:46:53.822 --> 06:46:55.924
HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED OR VETTED
06:46:55.991 --> 06:46:57.926
BY THE GOVERNOR'S ADVISORY BOARD
06:46:57.993 --> 06:46:59.595
OR THE SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE
06:46:59.661 --> 06:47:01.296
ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. YET THE
06:47:01.363 --> 06:47:03.332
SENATE IS BEING ASKED TO MAKE A
06:47:03.398 --> 06:47:05.000
MAJOR CHANGE IN REPORTING OF
06:47:05.067 --> 06:47:06.068
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH NO
06:47:06.135 --> 06:47:07.202
INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF
06:47:07.269 --> 06:47:10.038
CURRENT LAW. THIS BILL HAS
06:47:10.105 --> 06:47:12.007
RESULTED IN A LIFE AND DEATH
06:47:12.074 --> 06:47:13.542
BACK. THERE SHOULD NEVER BE A
06:47:13.609 --> 06:47:14.710
DEBATE WHEN IT COMES TO SAVING
06:47:14.777 --> 06:47:16.779
LIVES. IF YOU HAVE ONE QUESTION
06:47:16.845 --> 06:47:18.380
OR ONE DOUBT ABOUT THIS BILL,
06:47:18.447 --> 06:47:20.382
THEN WE OWE IT TO SURVIVORS TO
06:47:20.449 --> 06:47:22.284
PUT IT ON HOLD AND TO REVISIT.
06:47:22.351 --> 06:47:23.952
YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
06:47:24.019 --> 06:47:25.487
RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. NOW,
06:47:25.554 --> 06:47:27.656
TODAY AND TONIGHT TO SAVE LIVES
06:47:27.723 --> 06:47:29.057
AND PREVENT FURTHER VIOLENCE
06:47:29.124 --> 06:47:30.526
AGAINST WOMEN AND CHILDREN. AND
06:47:30.592 --> 06:47:32.528
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE ALL WANT TO
06:47:32.594 --> 06:47:35.264
DO? WHAT IS THE RUSH? LET'S DO
06:47:35.330 --> 06:47:37.533
SOME MORE RESEARCH. A LOT OF THE
06:47:37.599 --> 06:47:39.868
BILLS I HEARD TODAY IN THIS ROOM
06:47:39.935 --> 06:47:40.369
TODAY INCLUDED STABBING
06:47:40.435 --> 06:47:42.771
STRANGULATION SEXUAL ASSAULT. IF
06:47:42.838 --> 06:47:44.473
THIS BILL IS PASSED, THEN THERE
06:47:44.540 --> 06:47:46.441
IS NO THESE ARE CRIMES THAT
06:47:46.508 --> 06:47:47.509
WOULD NOT BE REPORTABLE BY
06:47:47.576 --> 06:47:48.644
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IF A
06:47:48.710 --> 06:47:51.413
HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS ARE NOT
06:47:51.480 --> 06:47:52.981
REQUIRED TO REPORT. THEN WHO
06:47:53.048 --> 06:47:54.550
WILL? SURVIVORS AREN'T GOING TO
06:47:54.616 --> 06:47:56.518
DO THAT. MAYBE IF MORE PEOPLE
06:47:56.585 --> 06:47:58.287
REPORTED VERSUS NOT REPORTING
06:47:58.353 --> 06:47:59.855
THERE WOULD BE LESS HOMICIDES OF
06:47:59.922 --> 06:48:01.256
WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND FINALLY
06:48:01.323 --> 06:48:03.458
REMEMBER THIS AS YOU MAKE YOUR
06:48:03.525 --> 06:48:04.426
DECISION TONIGHT ON THIS
06:48:04.493 --> 06:48:06.461
DANGEROUS BILL. IF NO ONE
06:48:06.528 --> 06:48:08.931
REPORTS THAT NO ONE WAS HELD
06:48:08.997 --> 06:48:10.933
ACCOUNTABLE AND YOUR LOVED ONE
06:48:10.999 --> 06:48:12.434
GOD FOR MID MIGHT BE THE NEXT
06:48:12.501 --> 06:48:14.136
ONE TO GET SHOT AT WITH AN
06:48:14.203 --> 06:48:15.671
ASSAULT WEAPON, AND THAT GUN
06:48:15.737 --> 06:48:17.372
JUST MIGHT NOT JAM. THANK YOU
06:48:17.439 --> 06:48:18.507
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR
06:48:18.574 --> 06:48:20.409
YOUR TESTIMONY. IS THERE ANYONE
06:48:20.475 --> 06:48:22.544
ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM? 1 12
06:48:22.611 --> 06:48:23.745
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
06:48:23.812 --> 06:48:26.248
SEEN ON LET'S MOVE TO THE PHONE.
06:48:26.315 --> 06:48:30.519
ARE YOU IN OPPOSITION? STATE
06:48:30.586 --> 06:48:33.055
UNANIMITY ORGANIZATIONS.
06:48:33.121 --> 06:48:34.890
ESPINOSA FROM THE SENIOR COUNTY
06:48:34.957 --> 06:48:36.091
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON BEHALF OF
06:48:36.158 --> 06:48:37.059
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUMMER
06:48:37.125 --> 06:48:38.727
STEPPING IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
06:48:38.794 --> 06:48:40.229
I'M ALSO APPEARING ON BEHALF OF
06:48:40.295 --> 06:48:41.029
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
06:48:41.096 --> 06:48:42.030
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN STRONG
06:48:42.097 --> 06:48:44.633
OPPOSITION AS WELL. THANK YOU.
06:48:44.700 --> 06:48:47.202
NOW LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES
06:48:47.269 --> 06:48:48.003
FOR WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION OF
06:48:48.070 --> 06:48:52.674
27 90. SURE. MY APOLOGIES. MR
06:48:52.741 --> 06:48:54.643
CHAIR. WE'LL GO TO LINE 1 88,
06:48:54.710 --> 06:48:57.479
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
06:48:57.546 --> 06:48:59.414
JACQUELINE WINTERS HALL. I AM A
06:48:59.481 --> 06:49:00.515
REGISTERED NURSE, A PUBLIC
06:49:00.582 --> 06:49:02.417
HEALTH OWNERS AND A SEXUAL
06:49:02.484 --> 06:49:03.518
ASSAULT FORENSIC NURSE EXAMINER
06:49:03.585 --> 06:49:10.058
AND VERY STRONG OPPOSITION. 1
06:49:10.125 --> 06:49:20.302
91, PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY WE'LL
06:49:20.369 --> 06:49:22.304
MOVE ON THE LINE TO RICO TO
06:49:22.371 --> 06:49:25.707
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS DR LEE
06:49:25.774 --> 06:49:27.743
KIM BERG. PHYSICIANS AND
06:49:27.809 --> 06:49:29.611
FRANCISCO IS WORKING. TAKING UP
06:49:29.678 --> 06:49:31.713
FOR 30 YEARS. I'M CALLING ON
06:49:31.780 --> 06:49:34.049
BEHALF OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
06:49:34.116 --> 06:49:34.850
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND
06:49:34.917 --> 06:49:37.185
MYSELF IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A B
06:49:37.252 --> 06:49:40.055
279. OH, THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS
06:49:40.122 --> 06:49:44.293
AND OPPOSITION. BUYING 2 72,
06:49:44.359 --> 06:49:49.998
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS LORI
06:49:50.065 --> 06:49:51.934
HAAS FROM THE SAN DIEGO DEPUTY
06:49:52.000 --> 06:49:53.035
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THIS IS THE
06:49:53.101 --> 06:49:54.569
ATION IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
06:49:54.636 --> 06:49:58.407
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
06:49:58.473 --> 06:50:06.248
LINE 2 84, PLEASE GO AHEAD. TOO
06:50:06.315 --> 06:50:07.416
MANY FOR YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
06:50:07.482 --> 06:50:13.355
HELLO. YES. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
06:50:13.422 --> 06:50:14.723
THIS IS JULIA DELEON FROM THE
06:50:14.790 --> 06:50:16.458
RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
06:50:16.525 --> 06:50:17.426
DEPARTMENT ON BEHALF OF THE
06:50:17.492 --> 06:50:18.493
DEPARTMENT AND CHAIRS CHAD
06:50:18.560 --> 06:50:20.128
BIANCO. WE AREN'T STRONG
06:50:20.195 --> 06:50:21.196
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
06:50:21.263 --> 06:50:24.132
NEXT WITNESS. FIND 2 57 GO
06:50:24.199 --> 06:50:29.838
AHEAD. HELLO HELLO. MY NAME IS
06:50:29.905 --> 06:50:31.940
TIFFANY AUTO, BONY. I AM A
06:50:32.007 --> 06:50:35.377
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS. AND
06:50:35.444 --> 06:50:36.979
WITHOUT MY DOCTOR REPORTING, MY
06:50:37.045 --> 06:50:38.547
T CHILDREN WOULD NOT HAVE THE
06:50:38.613 --> 06:50:41.149
MOTHER TODAY AND A FIREARM WAS
06:50:41.216 --> 06:50:42.818
NOT USED DURING MY ABUSE, AND
06:50:42.884 --> 06:50:44.152
I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK
06:50:44.219 --> 06:50:51.293
YOU. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
06:50:51.360 --> 06:50:57.299
THOÁT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. BY MANY
06:50:57.366 --> 06:50:58.934
WITH DR SEAN DUGGAN. I'M GONNA
06:50:59.001 --> 06:51:00.802
ADULT FORENSIC MEDICAL EXAMINER
06:51:00.869 --> 06:51:01.903
AND SPECIALISTS IN DOMESTIC
06:51:01.970 --> 06:51:03.905
VIOLENCE REPRESENTING OTHER
06:51:03.972 --> 06:51:05.273
PHYSICIANS WHO SPECIALIZE IN
06:51:05.340 --> 06:51:07.009
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FROM THE SHOT
06:51:07.075 --> 06:51:08.443
TO COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER.
06:51:08.510 --> 06:51:13.582
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. FIND 1
06:51:13.648 --> 06:51:18.787
31, LET'S GO AHEAD. CASEY GWINN
06:51:18.854 --> 06:51:19.855
. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ALLIANCE
06:51:19.921 --> 06:51:21.156
FOR HOPE INTERNATIONAL AND THE
06:51:21.223 --> 06:51:22.758
FORMER ELECTED CITY ATTORNEY OF
06:51:22.824 --> 06:51:24.826
SAN DIEGO AND THE FORMER CHAIR
06:51:24.893 --> 06:51:26.561
OF ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL LOCKYER
06:51:26.628 --> 06:51:27.496
. TASK FORCE ON DOMESTIC
06:51:27.562 --> 06:51:28.430
VIOLENCE, THE LAST STATEWIDE
06:51:28.497 --> 06:51:31.400
TASK FORCE THAT LOOKED AT THIS
06:51:31.466 --> 06:51:33.035
ISSUE AND WE ARE STRONGLY
06:51:33.101 --> 06:51:34.703
OPPOSED TO A B 27 90. THANK YOU
06:51:34.770 --> 06:51:40.909
NEXT WITNESS. PLANE TO 95.
06:51:40.976 --> 06:51:47.182
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS
06:51:47.249 --> 06:51:49.051
MATTHEW GRECO. ON BEHALF OF THIS
06:51:49.117 --> 06:51:50.685
HAND, EGAN'S AGAINST CRIME AND
06:51:50.752 --> 06:51:53.055
STRONG OPPOSITION TO A B 27 90
06:51:53.121 --> 06:51:53.855
ELIMINATING MANDATED REPORTING
06:51:53.922 --> 06:51:55.690
MEANS CONTINUED VICTIMIZATION.
06:51:55.757 --> 06:52:03.732
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. AND MR
06:52:03.799 --> 06:52:05.967
CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q
06:52:06.034 --> 06:52:06.635
AT THIS TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU.
06:52:06.701 --> 06:52:08.370
WE'LL BRING YOU BACK TO THE
06:52:08.437 --> 06:52:09.438
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTION FOR THE
06:52:09.504 --> 06:52:12.941
COMMITTEE? SENATOR JOE BUCK. I
06:52:13.008 --> 06:52:14.543
WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK ON IT. EVERY
06:52:14.609 --> 06:52:15.710
SINGLE BILL. ALMOST THERE WERE
06:52:15.777 --> 06:52:17.345
MORE REPUBLICANS ON THIS. ON
06:52:17.412 --> 06:52:22.984
THIS COMMITTEE. SO IT'S
06:52:23.051 --> 06:52:24.553
INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM THE
06:52:24.619 --> 06:52:25.353
WITNESSES BECAUSE I BELIEVE
06:52:25.420 --> 06:52:27.489
THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO CALLED IN
06:52:27.556 --> 06:52:28.523
SUPPORT OF THE BILL, WHO WAS
06:52:28.590 --> 06:52:29.991
ALSO CONSIDERED A DOMESTIC
06:52:30.058 --> 06:52:32.694
VIOLENCE. SURVIVOR SPEAK WITH
06:52:32.761 --> 06:52:34.629
REGARDS TO, UM THE MERITS OF THE
06:52:34.696 --> 06:52:37.065
BILL OR IN SUPPORTIVE. AND YET
06:52:37.132 --> 06:52:39.768
WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE. AND, UH,
06:52:39.835 --> 06:52:49.177
MS. OIL'S BILLS. A LITTLE FAVOR
06:52:49.244 --> 06:52:50.345
. YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY WAS VERY
06:52:50.412 --> 06:52:52.247
POWERFUL, UM TO HEAR AND I
06:52:52.314 --> 06:52:56.017
APPLAUD YOU. UM FOR BECOMING
06:52:56.084 --> 06:52:57.319
SUCH A SURVIVOR AND SUCH AN
06:52:57.385 --> 06:53:00.388
ADVOCATE FERVENT ADVOCATE, UM AS
06:53:00.455 --> 06:53:02.557
YOU EMANATE SUCH FORCE, AND, UM,
06:53:02.624 --> 06:53:05.427
IN OVERCOMING THE DOMESTIC
06:53:05.494 --> 06:53:07.762
VIOLENCE, SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR
06:53:07.829 --> 06:53:09.464
BEING SUCH AN ADVOCATE AND A
06:53:09.531 --> 06:53:10.699
SURVIVOR. VERY, VERY IMPRESSED.
06:53:10.765 --> 06:53:14.703
UM. SO THE CONCERNS I HAVE WITH
06:53:14.769 --> 06:53:18.306
THE BILL. UM LIE WITH THE FACT
06:53:18.373 --> 06:53:20.308
THAT I KNOW THAT THE REASON
06:53:20.375 --> 06:53:21.643
BEHIND THE BUILDING DURATION
06:53:21.710 --> 06:53:23.678
BEHINDTHE BILL IS THAT YOU FEAR
06:53:23.745 --> 06:53:30.418
THAT, UM THE, UM. THE VICTIMS
06:53:30.485 --> 06:53:33.421
WON'T SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION IF
06:53:33.488 --> 06:53:35.257
THEY HAVE BEEN ABUSED, OR IF
06:53:35.323 --> 06:53:37.192
THEY NEED THAT MEDICAL ATTENTION
06:53:37.259 --> 06:53:42.297
, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
06:53:42.364 --> 06:53:44.533
THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE WITH
06:53:44.599 --> 06:53:45.967
REGARDS TO THEM NOT COMING FORTH
06:53:46.034 --> 06:53:47.469
AND SEEKING MEDICAL ATTENTION,
06:53:47.536 --> 06:53:48.870
AND THEY'RE USUALLY NOT SEEKING
06:53:48.937 --> 06:53:49.804
MEDICAL ATTENTION BECAUSE
06:53:49.871 --> 06:53:54.376
THEY'RE AFRAID. THAT. BECAUSE OF
06:53:54.442 --> 06:53:55.377
THE MANDATED REPORTING THE
06:53:55.443 --> 06:53:57.445
PERPETRATORS WILL BE, UM
06:53:57.512 --> 06:54:01.016
BASICALLY UM YOU KNOW, SOUGHT
06:54:01.082 --> 06:54:05.287
AFTER. AND I THINK THAT'S
06:54:05.353 --> 06:54:11.626
EXACTLY WHERE I FEEL. UM. THE
06:54:11.693 --> 06:54:12.894
CONCERNS THAT THE OPPOSITION HAS
06:54:12.961 --> 06:54:15.597
COME INTO PLAY. AND THOUGH I'VE
06:54:15.664 --> 06:54:20.302
NEVER. BEEN BLESSED NOT TO HAVE
06:54:20.368 --> 06:54:21.603
BEEN A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC
06:54:21.670 --> 06:54:24.706
VIOLENCE. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY
06:54:24.773 --> 06:54:26.107
MANY GROUPS WITH REGARD TO
06:54:26.174 --> 06:54:28.944
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UM, SPACE.
06:54:29.010 --> 06:54:31.980
AND MANY OF THEM ARE NOT QUITE
06:54:32.047 --> 06:54:37.852
IN THE MINDSET OF BEING. ABLE TO
06:54:37.919 --> 06:54:40.155
BE ADVOCATES FOR THEMSELVES. AND
06:54:40.222 --> 06:54:47.429
SO, UM THERE'S PSYCHOLOGICAL, UM. UM ISSUES THAT MAY BE IN PLAY
06:54:47.495 --> 06:54:50.865
PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL. I MEAN, YOU
06:54:50.932 --> 06:54:52.867
NAME IT. THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT
06:54:52.934 --> 06:54:55.737
OF, UM FACTORS THAT COME INTO
06:54:55.804 --> 06:54:57.038
PLAY THAT MAKES IT VERY
06:54:57.105 --> 06:54:58.540
DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO BE
06:54:58.607 --> 06:54:59.741
OBJECTIVE AND TO BE ADVOCATES
06:54:59.808 --> 06:55:02.577
FOR THEMSELVES. THIS IS WHY I
06:55:02.644 --> 06:55:04.546
THINK AND I TRULY TRULY FEEL
06:55:04.613 --> 06:55:08.350
THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE,
06:55:08.416 --> 06:55:10.619
UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE
06:55:10.685 --> 06:55:12.053
MEDICAL FIELD, UM, BE ABLE TO
06:55:12.120 --> 06:55:13.555
ADVOCATE FOR THEM BECAUSE EVEN
06:55:13.622 --> 06:55:14.556
IF THEY DON'T SEEK OUT THE
06:55:14.623 --> 06:55:16.458
REASON THEY DON'T SEEK OUT IS
06:55:16.524 --> 06:55:17.792
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THAT.
06:55:17.859 --> 06:55:19.060
THE PERPETRATOR BEING, UM
06:55:19.127 --> 06:55:23.064
ARRESTED. WHICH IS WHY IT'S
06:55:23.131 --> 06:55:26.568
IMPERATIVE THAT THAT SYSTEM
06:55:26.635 --> 06:55:28.003
REMAINS IN PLACEBECAUSE THEY
06:55:28.069 --> 06:55:29.137
WON'T THEY THEMSELVES WON'T
06:55:29.204 --> 06:55:32.607
REPORT THEM. UM AND YOU NEED
06:55:32.674 --> 06:55:35.210
SOMEONE TO BE ON THE OUTSIDE THE
06:55:35.277 --> 06:55:36.845
OBJECTIVE WITH REGARDS TO THEIR,
06:55:36.911 --> 06:55:41.082
UM WITH REGARDS TO ASSESSING
06:55:41.149 --> 06:55:42.317
THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES TO BE ABLE
06:55:42.384 --> 06:55:43.551
TO BE ABLE TO REPORT THEM. SO
06:55:43.618 --> 06:55:46.154
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A I ALMOST FEEL
06:55:46.221 --> 06:55:47.956
IT'S LIKE THE CHICKEN AND THE
06:55:48.023 --> 06:55:50.392
EGG. WHAT COMES FIRST, UM AND
06:55:50.458 --> 06:55:51.593
WHAT'S GONNA BE IMPEDED IF
06:55:51.660 --> 06:55:53.428
THAT'S NOT IN THE PLACE, BUT I
06:55:53.495 --> 06:55:55.730
CAN BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT AND I
06:55:55.797 --> 06:55:57.799
WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE
06:55:57.866 --> 06:55:58.833
BILL TODAY AND I AND I APOLOGIZE
06:55:58.900 --> 06:56:00.635
FOR THAT. BUT I'M REALLY
06:56:00.702 --> 06:56:03.204
THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE
06:56:03.271 --> 06:56:04.372
NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE
06:56:04.439 --> 06:56:08.710
WHERE IT IS, UM IT IS NECESSARY
06:56:08.777 --> 06:56:11.079
FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
06:56:11.146 --> 06:56:12.647
BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY
06:56:12.714 --> 06:56:14.316
AND THE TRAINING TO ASSESS WHEN
06:56:14.382 --> 06:56:17.085
IT IS NEEDED, AND MANY OF THESE
06:56:17.152 --> 06:56:19.487
VICTIMS ARE NOT IN THAT MINDSET
06:56:19.554 --> 06:56:20.922
TO BE ABLE TO DO IT FOR
06:56:20.989 --> 06:56:22.624
THEMSELVES. SO BECAUSE OF THAT,
06:56:22.691 --> 06:56:24.092
I FEEL THAT IS IMPAIRED. AND THE
06:56:24.159 --> 06:56:26.027
OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU.
06:56:26.094 --> 06:56:27.162
IT WAS INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT
06:56:27.228 --> 06:56:29.197
UM IS THERE A REASON WHY IT
06:56:29.264 --> 06:56:29.864
HASN'T GONE THROUGH THE DOMESTIC
06:56:29.931 --> 06:56:30.598
VIOLENCE COMMITTEE OR THE
06:56:30.665 --> 06:56:34.436
CAUCUS? IS THERE IS THAT A
06:56:34.502 --> 06:56:35.904
SELECT COMMITTEE? I'M NOT SURE
06:56:35.970 --> 06:56:37.005
COMMITTEE THAT THEY MENTIONED
06:56:37.072 --> 06:56:40.842
EARLIER. IT THIS IS JUST
06:56:40.909 --> 06:56:43.311
REFERRED THROUGH RULES, TOO. I
06:56:43.378 --> 06:56:44.446
BELIEVE COMMITTEES ONE OF YOU
06:56:44.512 --> 06:56:47.682
MENTIONED OAN DEBT. THEY DID,
06:56:47.749 --> 06:56:51.453
BUT I'M UNAWARE, OKAY? I JUST
06:56:51.519 --> 06:56:53.121
WAS WONDERING IF THEY HAD HAD AN
06:56:53.188 --> 06:56:54.522
OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE AN
06:56:54.589 --> 06:56:55.557
ASSESSMENT ON THIS. I KNOW WE
06:56:55.623 --> 06:56:57.525
HAVE A HUGE ADVOCACY GROUP WHEN
06:56:57.592 --> 06:56:58.560
IT COMES TO THE DOMESTIC
06:56:58.626 --> 06:57:00.662
VIOLENCE WITHIN OUR, UM, HERE IN
06:57:00.729 --> 06:57:01.963
THE LEGISLATURE, SO WE'RE JUST
06:57:02.030 --> 06:57:04.265
GONNA CURIOUS TO SEE IF THEY HAD
06:57:04.332 --> 06:57:07.335
ANY FEEDBACK ON ON THE BILL.
06:57:07.402 --> 06:57:08.803
YEAH, IT'S A SELECT COMMITTEE.
06:57:08.870 --> 06:57:10.105
IT'S A SLIGHT COMMITTEE SO THEY
06:57:10.171 --> 06:57:11.806
DON'T SEE POLICY BILLS. SO
06:57:11.873 --> 06:57:13.908
THAT'S WHY I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS
06:57:13.975 --> 06:57:15.143
THAT SOME OF THAT IN MY CLOTHES
06:57:15.210 --> 06:57:20.014
OR ARE YOU TWO YOU CAN CLOSE. I
06:57:20.081 --> 06:57:22.183
APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR
06:57:22.250 --> 06:57:23.618
COMMENTS, AND I THINK WE SHARE
06:57:23.685 --> 06:57:25.587
THE SAME GOALS ULTIMATELY RIGHT
06:57:25.653 --> 06:57:28.790
OF ENSURING THAT, UM, VICTIMS.
06:57:28.857 --> 06:57:31.826
ARE RECEIVING THE CARE THAT THEY
06:57:31.893 --> 06:57:32.594
NEED, AND THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL
06:57:32.660 --> 06:57:34.662
OF THE BILL IS TO ENSURE THAT
06:57:34.729 --> 06:57:35.697
YOU KNOW, AND THE DATA THAT
06:57:35.764 --> 06:57:37.599
WE'VE SEEN SAYS THAT WHEN
06:57:37.665 --> 06:57:38.400
PROVIDERS ARE ABLE TO HAVE A
06:57:38.466 --> 06:57:39.634
REALLY OPEN AND TRAUMA, INFORMED
06:57:39.701 --> 06:57:42.203
CONVERSATION WITH PATIENTS ABOUT
06:57:42.270 --> 06:57:43.037
THE ABUSE THAT THEY'RE
06:57:43.104 --> 06:57:44.372
EXPERIENCING THAT SURVIVORS ARE
06:57:44.439 --> 06:57:46.708
FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ACCESS
06:57:46.775 --> 06:57:48.843
INTERVENTION AND ALSO TELL YOU I
06:57:48.910 --> 06:57:50.712
ALSO, THANKFULLY, HAVE NOT BEEN
06:57:50.779 --> 06:57:52.046
. I'M NOT A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC
06:57:52.113 --> 06:57:53.348
VIOLENCE, NOR HAVE I EXPERIENCED
06:57:53.415 --> 06:57:55.250
IT. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
06:57:55.316 --> 06:57:56.317
I'M REALLY LISTENING TO THE
06:57:56.384 --> 06:57:58.953
PEOPLE WHO I BELIEVE HAVE A
06:57:59.020 --> 06:58:00.054
STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF THIS
06:58:00.121 --> 06:58:02.157
ISSUE. UM YOU KNOW THE
06:58:02.223 --> 06:58:03.591
CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIP TO END
06:58:03.658 --> 06:58:04.959
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WHICH IS THE
06:58:05.026 --> 06:58:06.594
LARGEST UMBRELLA GROUP IN THE
06:58:06.661 --> 06:58:07.796
STATE, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR
06:58:07.862 --> 06:58:08.930
DECADES FOR DECADES. YOU KNOW,
06:58:08.997 --> 06:58:10.432
IN THEIR LETTER OF SUPPORT, THEY
06:58:10.498 --> 06:58:12.133
SAID THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT
06:58:12.200 --> 06:58:13.067
MEDICAL MANDATED REPORTING PUT
06:58:13.134 --> 06:58:15.470
SURVIVORS IN MORE DANGER
06:58:15.537 --> 06:58:17.038
DECREASES SURVIVOR AUTONOMY AND
06:58:17.105 --> 06:58:17.839
MAKES HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS
06:58:17.906 --> 06:58:19.207
RELUCTANT TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC
06:58:19.274 --> 06:58:20.241
AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE WITH THEIR
06:58:20.308 --> 06:58:23.545
PATIENTS. SO WE ARE ACTIVELY
06:58:23.611 --> 06:58:25.046
SEEKING INPUT FROM DOMESTIC
06:58:25.113 --> 06:58:26.214
VIOLENCE, SURVIVORS AND
06:58:26.281 --> 06:58:27.148
ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT
06:58:27.215 --> 06:58:30.685
THEM. EVERYONE FROM YOU KNOW THE
06:58:30.752 --> 06:58:32.821
PARTNERSHIP TO FAMILY VIOLENCE
06:58:32.887 --> 06:58:34.422
LAWCENTER TO THE PARTNERSHIP FOR
06:58:34.489 --> 06:58:35.824
TRAUMA RECOVERY. PLANNED%
06:58:35.890 --> 06:58:37.225
PARENTHOOD. YOU KNOW, THE
06:58:37.292 --> 06:58:39.194
OBJECTIONS CAME ON IN SUPPORT OF
06:58:39.260 --> 06:58:40.962
THE BILL TODAY. THE SOCIAL
06:58:41.029 --> 06:58:41.796
WORKERS AS YOU HEARD OF
06:58:41.863 --> 06:58:43.998
TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT, YOU KNOW,
06:58:44.065 --> 06:58:44.632
THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
06:58:44.699 --> 06:58:46.100
. THEY HAVE ALSO SAID THAT THEY
06:58:46.167 --> 06:58:47.602
DON'T SUPPORT MANDATED MEDICAL
06:58:47.669 --> 06:58:49.971
REPORTING. UM THE EMERGENCY
06:58:50.038 --> 06:58:51.039
PHYSICIANS, THE AMERICAN COLLEGE
06:58:51.105 --> 06:58:52.740
OF EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS ALSO HAS
06:58:52.807 --> 06:58:55.677
THE SAME POSITION. UM MANY
06:58:55.743 --> 06:58:56.945
ORGANIZATIONS WHO, FRANKLY HAVE
06:58:57.011 --> 06:58:58.346
MORE EXPERTISE IN THIS SPACE
06:58:58.413 --> 06:59:00.114
THAN I DO, UM, ARE WEIGHING IN
06:59:00.181 --> 06:59:01.483
HEAVILY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL,
06:59:01.549 --> 06:59:03.151
WHICH GIVES ME THE CONFIDENCE
06:59:03.218 --> 06:59:04.352
THAT WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT
06:59:04.419 --> 06:59:05.487
THING. BUT I HEAR YOU AND
06:59:05.553 --> 06:59:07.322
UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
06:59:07.388 --> 06:59:08.923
THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT
06:59:08.990 --> 06:59:09.457
THING. AND THAT WE'RE NOT
06:59:09.524 --> 06:59:10.725
PUTTING PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY.
06:59:10.792 --> 06:59:12.527
AND JUST FROM THE DATA THAT I'VE
06:59:12.594 --> 06:59:15.263
READ THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE
06:59:15.330 --> 06:59:16.297
RISK IN TERMS OF CHANGES THAT
06:59:16.364 --> 06:59:17.499
ARE NEEDED FOR THIS BILL, AND I
06:59:17.565 --> 06:59:18.766
WILL TELL YOU I ALSO APPRECIATE
06:59:18.833 --> 06:59:19.634
THE TESTIMONY FROM THE
06:59:19.701 --> 06:59:20.635
OPPOSITION. I WILL CONTINUE TO
06:59:20.702 --> 06:59:22.670
SIT DOWN. I STILL THINK THEY'RE
06:59:22.737 --> 06:59:23.471
PROBABLY AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE
06:59:23.538 --> 06:59:25.540
ON THIS BILL. I WILL CONTINUE TO
06:59:25.607 --> 06:59:27.609
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION BECAUSE
06:59:27.675 --> 06:59:28.643
WE DO WANT A BILL THAT I THINK
06:59:28.710 --> 06:59:30.478
ACHIEVES BOTH OF THE GOALS THAT
06:59:30.545 --> 06:59:32.480
I KNOW YOU AND I SHARE IN THE
06:59:32.547 --> 06:59:33.481
SPACE. AND SO WITH THAT, I'D
06:59:33.548 --> 06:59:35.850
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
06:59:35.917 --> 06:59:37.151
THANK YOU. UH DO WE HAVE A
06:59:37.218 --> 06:59:39.087
MOTION ON THIS MEASURE? WE HAVE
06:59:39.153 --> 06:59:42.223
A DO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. AND
06:59:42.290 --> 06:59:44.459
WITH AMENDMENTS. YES I TOOK THE
06:59:44.526 --> 06:59:45.860
AMENDMENTS. SHE HAS TAKEN
06:59:45.927 --> 06:59:47.362
AMENDMENTS SO WE HAVE DO PAST
06:59:47.428 --> 06:59:49.764
TWO APPROPRIATIONS AS AMENDED A
06:59:49.831 --> 06:59:51.165
COURTESY COURTESY COURTESY
06:59:51.232 --> 06:59:52.433
MOTION. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE
06:59:52.500 --> 06:59:57.405
EMOTION. COUNCIL, PLEASE CALL
06:59:57.472 --> 07:00:01.109
THE ROLL ON A B 27 90 27 90
07:00:01.175 --> 07:00:03.845
BRADFORD BRADFORD IACOPO BOGUE
07:00:03.912 --> 07:00:04.946
JOBURG. NO KAMLAGER SKINNER
07:00:05.013 --> 07:00:08.082
WIENER. BELIEVE IT. WE'RE ALL
07:00:08.149 --> 07:00:10.251
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK
07:00:10.318 --> 07:00:16.925
YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MR.
07:00:16.991 --> 07:00:18.560
YOU, MR CHAIR, AND I APPRECIATE
07:00:18.626 --> 07:00:21.129
THAT YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY AND
07:00:21.195 --> 07:00:22.263
ARE STILL STANDING OUT SITTING
07:00:22.330 --> 07:00:24.132
UP THERE PAYING ATTENTION. SO I
07:00:24.198 --> 07:00:26.334
APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, MR
07:00:26.401 --> 07:00:28.603
COMMITTEE, MR MR CHAIR AND
07:00:28.670 --> 07:00:29.737
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I AM PLEASED
07:00:29.804 --> 07:00:31.773
TO PRESENT A B 2407, WHICH
07:00:31.839 --> 07:00:33.174
TIGHTENS THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE
07:00:33.241 --> 07:00:34.275
SALE OF USE CATALYTIC
07:00:34.342 --> 07:00:36.144
CONVERTERS. MAKING IT MORE
07:00:36.210 --> 07:00:37.745
DIFFICULT FOR THESE TO PROFIT
07:00:37.812 --> 07:00:39.013
FROM SELLING STOLEN CONVERTERS
07:00:39.080 --> 07:00:41.149
AND REALLY THOSE SPECIAL MEDALS
07:00:41.215 --> 07:00:42.917
THAT PEOPLE ARE AFTER INSIDE THE
07:00:42.984 --> 07:00:43.985
CONVERTER IS EXPENSIVE AND
07:00:44.052 --> 07:00:46.588
SPECIAL MEDALS. CADILLAC
07:00:46.654 --> 07:00:47.455
CONVERTERS ARE EMISSION
07:00:47.522 --> 07:00:48.923
CONTROLLED BY ISIS ON CARS AND
07:00:48.990 --> 07:00:50.091
TRUCKS THAT USE SEVERAL
07:00:50.158 --> 07:00:51.726
COMPONENTS SUCH AS PRECIOUS
07:00:51.793 --> 07:00:54.095
METALS LIKE PLATINUM, PALLADIUM
07:00:54.162 --> 07:00:55.396
AND RHODIUM TO CONVERT TOXIC
07:00:55.463 --> 07:00:56.531
GASSES INTO LESS HARMFUL
07:00:56.598 --> 07:00:59.100
CHEMICALS IN OUR AIR.
07:00:59.167 --> 07:01:00.868
UNFORTUNATELY INCREASES IN THE
07:01:00.935 --> 07:01:02.704
PRICES OF THESE PRECIOUS METALS
07:01:02.770 --> 07:01:04.305
AND THESE DEVICES HAS RESULTED
07:01:04.372 --> 07:01:05.907
IN THEM BECOMING A LUCRATIVE
07:01:05.974 --> 07:01:06.574
TARGET FOR THESE, I WON'T GO
07:01:06.641 --> 07:01:08.509
INTO STATISTICS. YOU ALL KNOW
07:01:08.576 --> 07:01:09.544
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. THAT IS A
07:01:09.611 --> 07:01:10.845
REAL PROBLEM. INSIDE AND OUTSIDE
07:01:10.912 --> 07:01:14.782
OF CATTLE, CALIFORNIA. CATALYTIC
07:01:14.849 --> 07:01:15.617
CONVERTERS, AS WE KNOW CAN BE
07:01:15.683 --> 07:01:17.852
REMOVED IN LESS THAN TWO MINUTES
07:01:17.919 --> 07:01:19.053
. IF YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOING
07:01:19.120 --> 07:01:20.955
TO KNOW THE RIGHT VEHICLE TO GO
07:01:21.022 --> 07:01:21.589
TO AND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT
07:01:21.656 --> 07:01:22.690
IN TWO MINUTES. DESPITE
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SIMILARITIES TO OTHER SCRAP
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METALS THAT ARE FREQUENTLY
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STOLEN AN OFFER TO RECYCLERS
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CATALYTIC CONVERTER SALES DO NOT
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HAVE THE SAME ANTI THEFT
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REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, AS DO
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OTHER SPECIAL MEDALS. A B 24 07
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ELIMINATES THESE INCONSISTENCIES
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BY REQUIRING CORE RECYCLERS,
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COREY CYCLERS TO REPORT
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INFORMATION ABOUT SALES TO LAW
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ENFORCEMENT. OBTAIN A THUMBPRINT
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OF THE SELLERS AND REQUEST TO
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RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS FROM A
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THEFT ALERT SYSTEM. THESE
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REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN SHOWN BY
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THE NATIONAL INSURANCE CRIME
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BUREAU TO REDUCE METAL THEFTS,
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AND WE'LL DO THE SAME FOR
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CATALYTIC CONVERTERS HERE TO
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TESTIFY, I BELIEVE IS RANDY
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PERRY. AH ON BEHALF OF THE PEACE
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OFFICERS RESEARCH ASSOCIATION OF
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CALIFORNIA, MR CHAIR MR PERRY.
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MR CHAIR MEMBERS, RANDY PERRY ON
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BEHALF OF THE ALLIANCE FOR
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AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION. IN
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SUPPORT OF THE BILL. IT'S A IT'S
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A GOOD IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. IT'S
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THE KIND OF HELPS US GET THE
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DATA FROM THE FOLKS WHO ARE
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ACTUALLY WORKING IN THIS AREA
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AND SELLING AND RESELLING CALA
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CONVERTERS. GET THAT INFORMATION
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OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO WHEN
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THEY DO COME ACROSS THESE ON THE
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STREET THAT THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS
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TO THE INFORMATION ON THOSE SO
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WE SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU.
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YOU DO? YOU ALSO HAVE RYAN,
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CHAIRMAN OR IN PERSON. NO, OKAY.
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ANY OTHER WITNESSES HERE AND
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ROOM 1 12 WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
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SUPPORT 24 77. HERE IN CHINA AND
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MODERATE ELECTRICAL TO OUR PHONE
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LINES WERE WITNESSES AND
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SUPPORT. INTUITION TO SPEAK IN
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SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. YOU WOULD
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PRESS ONE AND ZERO AND WE'VE GOT
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A LINE 1 91, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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WANT ANYONE. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
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PEOPLE GO TO LINE 2 75, PLEASE
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GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. AMANDA
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WALL DRAMA WITH TRIPLE A AND
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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND JUST
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MOMENT WE HAVE SOME MAJOR
07:03:35.923 --> 07:03:41.095
CUTICLE ITALY. AND FLYING 301,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THANK YOU
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FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY. MY
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NAME IS ERICA LEON. AND I'M A
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I'M A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL
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ASSAULT AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
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CONFIDENTIAL ADVOCATE CALLING ON
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BEHALF. COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS IN
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SOUTH SENATOR ACCOUNT E IN
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STRONG SUPPORT OF 82 790. THANK
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YOU. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. WE
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HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q AT THIS
07:04:10.158 --> 07:04:14.262
TIME. NOW WE'LL GO TO OPPOSITION
07:04:14.328 --> 07:04:15.763
. THERE'S NO LEAD OPPOSITION
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LISTED ON THIS MEASURES OR
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ANYONE HERE IN 1 12 WISHING TO
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TESTIFY. IN OPPOSITION OF 24 07.
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SEEING NO. ONE MODERATOR,
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ELECTRICAL TORQUE PHONE LINES.
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OR WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. AND
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IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
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OPPOSITION OF A B 24 07, PLEASE
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PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
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AND MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE
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QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME. HEY
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WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
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COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY
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QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BY
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COMMITTEE MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT.
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WELL, THANK YOU FOR THIS MEASURE
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AS STATED ACTIVE CATALYTIC
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CONVERTERS ARE GROWING. CRIME
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NOT ONLY IN CALIFORNIA BUT
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ACROSS THE NATION, AND ITS HAS
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TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON ONE'S
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ABILITY TO GET TO AND FROM WORK
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OR PICK THEIR KIDS UP AND JUST
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HAVE ACCESS. SO UM, THIS IS A
07:05:05.546 --> 07:05:07.582
ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED
07:05:07.648 --> 07:05:08.649
AND APPRECIATE YOUR MEASURE THIS
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MEASURE WE HAVE A DUE PASSI
07:05:12.587 --> 07:05:14.889
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROPRIATIONS
07:05:14.956 --> 07:05:16.858
. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS
07:05:16.924 --> 07:05:17.959
MEASURE? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
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SENATOR OF HOBOKEN. CAN YOU CALL
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THE ROAD COUNCIL ON A B 24 7? A
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B 24 7 BRADFORD BRADFORD
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AYATOLLAH BOGUE ROBO GUY
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KAMLAGER SKINNER WIENER. WE HAVE
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TO. VIRTUALLY THEY'RE ALL OPEN
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FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
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AND VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU.
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ALRIGHT. EXCEPT IS MR NAZARIAN
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FALL ITEM 32, MAYBE 25 47. THANK
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YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, SENATORS. LAST
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YEAR IN JUNE OF 2021. I ASKED
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FOR A STATE AUDIT TO REVIEW
07:06:02.069 --> 07:06:02.870
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
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AGENCIES AND INVESTIGATE
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IMPLICIT BIAS AMONGST SWORN
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PEACE OFFICER PERSONNEL. AND IF
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SWORN OFFICERS HAD AFFILIATIONS
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TO KNOWN HEAT GROUPS AFTER
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MONTHS OF STUDY THE STATE ORDER
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DID NOT DID FIND SWORN OFFICERS
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SHOWING EXPRESSIONS OF BIAS.
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HOWEVER DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO
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HATE GROUPS WERE NOT FOUND. A B
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25 47 IS A REFLECTION OF. AH IS
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BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS
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COMING OUT OF THIS AUDIT, AND
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PRIMARILY THOSE TWO THINGS
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REQUIRES POST TO ESTABLISH A
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DEFINITION OF BIASED. CONDUCT
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FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO
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USE IN ANY INVESTIGATION INTO A
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BIAS RELATED COMPLAINT OR AN
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INCIDENT THAT INVOLVES POSSIBLE
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INDICATIONS OF OFFICER BIAS. T<c.cyan></c>
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REQUIRES POST TO DEVELOP
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GUIDANCE FOR LOCAL LAW
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ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS ON
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PERFORMING EFFECTIVE INTERNET
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AND SOCIAL MEDIA SCREENINGS OF
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OFFICER APPLICANTS. FINALLY THE
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BILL ESTABLISHES THE CRITERIA
07:07:04.598 --> 07:07:06.767
THAT POST MUST USE WHEN CREATING
07:07:06.834 --> 07:07:09.770
THE DEFINITION OF BIASED CONDUCT
07:07:09.837 --> 07:07:10.871
AND DEVELOPING THE GUIDANCE FOR
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SOCIAL MEDIA AND INTERNET
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SCREENING. THIS BILL IS JUST THE
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FIRST STEP IN ADDRESSING MANY OF
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THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE
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AUDITOR FOUND UH HUH. CHIEF
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AMONG THEM ARE BETTER ACCESS TO
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APPLICANTS. SOCIAL MEDIA AH,
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INCORPORATE ASSESSMENTS OF
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OFFICER APPLICANTS ABILITY TO
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INTERACT WITH A DIVERSE
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COMMUNITY AND THE LIST GOES ON
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AND WITH ME. I HAVE BOB HARRIS,
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ACTING DEPUTY STATE AUDITOR, AS
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WELL AS AMANDA MYLAN. A SENIOR
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AUDITOR, BUT THIS BILL ITSELF
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ADDRESS IS JUST A FIRST STEP IN
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MAKING SURE THAT AT LEAST
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THERE'S A DEFINITION. AND THEN
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WE MOVE FORWARD. IN FUTURE
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LEGISLATIVE YEARS AND ADDRESSING
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SOME OF THE OTHER FINDINGS IN
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THE AUDIT. WITH THAT. I'LL GIVE
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YOU BOTH TWO MINUTES EACH. SO
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YOU MAY BEGIN, MR HARRIS. THANK
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YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
07:08:08.763 --> 07:08:09.730
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS BOB HARRIS
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WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
07:08:11.399 --> 07:08:12.666
AUDITOR'S OFFICE WHERE I AM AN
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ACTING DEPUTY STATE AUDITOR WITH
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ME TODAY IS MISS AMANDA MYLAN.
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WHO IS AN AUDIT TEAM SUPERVISOR.
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OUR OFFICE AS A MATTER OF POLICY
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DOESN'T TAKE A FORMAL POSITION
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ON BILLS BUT WILL OUTLINE FOR
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THE COMMITTEE. HOW A B 25 47
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ADOPTS TWO OF THE
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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE AS
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A RESULT OF OUR RECENT AUDIT. OF
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HOW WELL LAW ENFORCEMENT
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DEPARTMENTS WERE GUARDING
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AGAINST BIASED CONDUCT BY THEIR
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PEACE OFFICERS, NOR SPECIFICALLY
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, AS MR NAZARIAN ALREADY
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OUTLINED, THE BILL ADOPTS A
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RECOMMENDATION WE MADE TO HAVE A
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STANDARDIZED UNIFORM DEFINITION
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OF WHAT BIASED CONDUCT IS OUR
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AUDIT FOUND THAT AMONGST THE
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AGENCIES WE REVIEWED THEY HAD NO
07:08:46.400 --> 07:08:48.436
STANDARDIZED COMMON DEFINITION
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AMONGST ALL OF THEM FOR WHAT IT
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EVEN MEANT FOR AN OFFICER TO ACT
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IN A BIASED MANNER. FURTHER WE
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FOUND WHEN WE LOOKED AT SOME
07:08:55.076 --> 07:08:56.243
MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS. THAT
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THE INVESTIGATIONS THOSE
07:08:57.545 --> 07:08:59.046
AGENCIES MADE INTO POTENTIALLY
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BIASED CONDUCT BY OFFICERS
07:09:00.448 --> 07:09:02.216
EXHIBITED CERTAIN WEAKNESSES.
07:09:02.283 --> 07:09:03.884
FOR INSTANCE, THEY RELIED OVERLY
07:09:03.951 --> 07:09:05.019
ON OFFICERS EXPLANATIONS FOR
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THEIR BEHAVIOR. THEY DIDN'T
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CONSIDER THE REASONABLE
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APPEARANCE OF THE OFFICER'S
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BEHAVIOR, AND THEY FOCUSED
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MOSTLY ON EXPLICIT SIGNS OF BIAS
07:09:14.462 --> 07:09:16.397
AND OVERLOOKED MORE SUBTLE SIGNS
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OF POSSIBLE IMPLICIT BIASES THAT
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THE OFFICERS MAY HAVE DISPLAYED.
07:09:20.101 --> 07:09:21.368
SO WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT
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FIRST THE STATE ADOPT A UNIFORM
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DEFINITION FOR BIASED CONDUCT
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THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS
07:09:26.941 --> 07:09:28.209
WOULD THEN NEED TO USE DURING
07:09:28.275 --> 07:09:29.677
THEIR INVESTIGATIONS AND
07:09:29.743 --> 07:09:31.178
RECOMMENDED THAT THE DEFINITION
07:09:31.245 --> 07:09:33.380
INCLUDE SAFEGUARDS AGAINST THE
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WEAKNESSES. THE SPECIFIC
07:09:34.849 --> 07:09:35.416
WEAKNESSES THAT WE SAW IN THE
07:09:35.483 --> 07:09:36.383
MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS THAT
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WE REVIEWED. AND WOULD THAT BE
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HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS
07:09:41.088 --> 07:09:44.558
AFTER MISS MELONS TESTIMONY NEXT
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UP IS MISS MYLAN. GOOD EVENING,
07:09:46.760 --> 07:09:48.429
MR CHAIR, SENATOR OTO BUG. MY
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NAME IS AMANDA MYLAN AND I'M
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ALSO WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
07:09:51.599 --> 07:09:53.167
AUDITOR'S OFFICE. I SUPERVISED
07:09:53.234 --> 07:09:54.235
THE AUDIT THAT MR HARRIS SPOKE
07:09:54.301 --> 07:09:56.537
OF THERE'S ANOTHER AREA OF THAT
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AUDIT THAT'S RELEVANT TO THE
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BILL AT HAND, AND THAT'S RELATED
07:09:59.740 --> 07:10:00.541
TO OUR REVIEW OF THE FIVE
07:10:00.608 --> 07:10:02.843
DEPARTMENTS HIRING PROCESSES. SO
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IN THAT REVIEW, WE FOUND THAT
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EACH OF THE FIVE DEPARTMENTS DID
07:10:06.013 --> 07:10:07.615
SOME LEVEL OF SOCIAL MEDIA
07:10:07.681 --> 07:10:09.917
SCREENING. THAT KIND OF
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SCREENING CAN HELP REVEAL A LOT
07:10:11.452 --> 07:10:13.087
ABOUT AN APPLICANT, INCLUDING
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WHETHER THEY HAVE ENGAGED IN
07:10:15.022 --> 07:10:16.724
BIAS CONDUCT IN THE PAST. BUT IN
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OUR REVIEW, WE FOUND THAT THE
07:10:19.126 --> 07:10:20.094
FIVE DEPARTMENTS, SOCIAL MEDIA
07:10:20.161 --> 07:10:21.362
SCREENINGS WERE VERY LIMITED.
07:10:21.428 --> 07:10:22.530
FOR INSTANCE, THEY SOMETIMES
07:10:22.596 --> 07:10:24.698
ONLY REVIEWED ONE PAGE OR IT WAS
07:10:24.765 --> 07:10:26.567
REALLY UNCLEAR WHAT THEY WERE
07:10:26.634 --> 07:10:29.036
EVEN LOOKING FOR. WE DID OUR OWN
07:10:29.103 --> 07:10:30.671
REVIEW OF PEACE OFFICER OF A
07:10:30.738 --> 07:10:32.106
SELECTION OF PEACE OFFICERS,
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SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, AND WE DID
07:10:33.841 --> 07:10:35.910
FIND THAT SOME PEACE OFFICERS
07:10:35.976 --> 07:10:37.578
HAD POSTED BIAS CONTENT ON THEIR
07:10:37.645 --> 07:10:41.148
PAGES, SUCH AS BY AND PROMOTING
07:10:41.215 --> 07:10:42.249
NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES ABOUT A
07:10:42.316 --> 07:10:44.552
GROUP OF PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE.
07:10:44.618 --> 07:10:46.654
SOME OF THOSE STATEMENTS THEY
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POSTED WHILE THEY WERE EMPLOYED
07:10:47.655 --> 07:10:49.657
AS PEACE OFFICERS, OTHERS BEFORE
07:10:49.723 --> 07:10:51.358
THEY WERE HIRED. BUT THAT REVIEW
07:10:51.425 --> 07:10:53.460
DEMONSTRATES THE VALUE THAT THAT
07:10:53.527 --> 07:10:55.362
KIND OF A SCREENING CAN PROVIDE
07:10:55.429 --> 07:10:57.164
IN THE HIRING PROCESS. HOWEVER
07:10:57.231 --> 07:10:58.799
POST DOESN'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE
07:10:58.866 --> 07:11:00.768
RIGHT NOW FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
07:11:00.834 --> 07:11:01.936
DEPARTMENTS ON HOW TO DO AN
07:11:02.002 --> 07:11:03.204
EFFECTIVE SCREENING LIKE THAT.
07:11:03.270 --> 07:11:05.172
AND SO WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION
07:11:05.239 --> 07:11:06.106
THAT THE LEGISLATURE REQUIRE
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POST TO DEVELOP THAT KIND OF
07:11:08.342 --> 07:11:10.377
GUIDANCE AND THE BILL WOULD
07:11:10.444 --> 07:11:11.745
IMPLEMENT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
07:11:11.812 --> 07:11:13.447
AS MR HARRIS SAID, WE'RE HAPPY
07:11:13.514 --> 07:11:14.515
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
07:11:14.582 --> 07:11:16.517
HAVE. THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
07:11:16.584 --> 07:11:18.852
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM 1 12
07:11:18.919 --> 07:11:19.453
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT.
07:11:19.520 --> 07:11:24.091
SEEN IN. MODERATORS LET'S GO TO
07:11:24.158 --> 07:11:26.293
OUR PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
07:11:26.360 --> 07:11:28.596
AND SUPPORT OF 25 47. AND IF YOU
07:11:28.662 --> 07:11:31.065
WISH YOU CAN SUPPORT PLEASE
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PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE
07:11:40.241 --> 07:11:42.409
KNOWN IN CUBA AT THIS TIME, OKAY
07:11:42.476 --> 07:11:43.577
? WE'LL GO TO OPPOSITION.
07:11:43.644 --> 07:11:44.545
THERE'S NO FORMAL OPPOSITION
07:11:44.612 --> 07:11:48.215
LISTED. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
07:11:48.282 --> 07:11:50.251
THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
07:11:50.317 --> 07:11:54.255
OPPOSITION OF 25 47? SHE NONE.
07:11:54.321 --> 07:11:56.457
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
07:11:56.523 --> 07:11:57.558
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
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WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
07:12:06.767 --> 07:12:12.573
MODERATOR. APOLOGIES MR KERRY
07:12:12.640 --> 07:12:14.241
HAD AN AUDIO ISSUE IF YOU WISH
07:12:14.308 --> 07:12:16.176
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION ONE AND
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ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND THERE'S
07:12:24.985 --> 07:12:26.954
NO ONE IN Q AT THIS TIME, MR
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CHAIR. OKAY THANK YOU. BRING T
07:12:28.489 --> 07:12:30.457
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY
07:12:30.524 --> 07:12:31.492
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? FUNERAL
07:12:31.558 --> 07:12:36.597
LOGO? SO. I KNOW WE HAD A
07:12:36.664 --> 07:12:38.098
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BILL AND
07:12:38.165 --> 07:12:40.167
I WAS COMPLETELY DIDN'T SEE
07:12:40.234 --> 07:12:41.201
ANYTHING. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT
07:12:41.268 --> 07:12:43.837
CAME TO, UH, TRYING TO IMPLEMENT
07:12:43.904 --> 07:12:46.674
. UM CONCERNS BY THE, UM
07:12:46.740 --> 07:12:52.012
AUDITOR'S REPORT. BUT I DID, UM,
07:12:52.079 --> 07:12:53.180
TESTAMENT THAT WE JUST HEARD
07:12:53.247 --> 07:12:56.917
FROM I'M SORRY, TRYING TO THINK
07:12:56.984 --> 07:13:02.289
OF YOUR NAME. MS MELON OR MYLAN.
07:13:02.356 --> 07:13:05.893
YES, IT'S MYLAN. UM, SO I'M KIND
07:13:05.959 --> 07:13:11.965
OF CURIOUS BECAUSE. SO IN THE
07:13:12.032 --> 07:13:13.400
ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT
07:13:13.467 --> 07:13:14.735
NOW, THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS
07:13:14.802 --> 07:13:18.772
THAT MAY SEEM VERY BIAS FOR SOME
07:13:18.839 --> 07:13:21.408
NOT BIAS FOR OTHERS, AND HAVING
07:13:21.475 --> 07:13:22.976
NO DEFINITION. THERE'S A LEVEL
07:13:23.043 --> 07:13:24.645
OF SENSITIVITY THAT SOME PEOPLE
07:13:24.712 --> 07:13:27.948
MAY HAVE TOWARDS CERTAIN. UM
07:13:28.015 --> 07:13:31.051
COMMENTS, POSTINGS AND SO FORTH
07:13:31.118 --> 07:13:32.619
. COME MY ATTENTION IS THE FACT
07:13:32.686 --> 07:13:35.556
THAT YOU SAID THAT IN SCREENING
07:13:35.622 --> 07:13:37.958
FOR, UM FOR CANDIDATES YOU WOULD
07:13:38.025 --> 07:13:42.296
LOOK TO HAVE PAST, YOU KNOW,
07:13:42.363 --> 07:13:44.932
PRIOR TO EMPLOYMENT POST PRIOR
07:13:44.998 --> 07:13:46.800
TO EMPLOYMENT, OR, UM, AND I'M
07:13:46.867 --> 07:13:48.836
NOT SURE IF YOU WOULD USE THE
07:13:48.902 --> 07:13:52.606
PAST. UM PAST. UM POSTINGS. UM,
07:13:52.673 --> 07:14:00.781
AS A. UM SCREENING FOR POTENTIAL
07:14:00.848 --> 07:14:01.949
, UM, OFFICERS COMING IN TO THE
07:14:02.015 --> 07:14:06.186
SPACE. UM BUT IF THEY HAVEN'T
07:14:06.253 --> 07:14:08.922
RECEIVED THE TRAINING FOR
07:14:08.989 --> 07:14:10.891
IMPLICIT OR EXPLICIT BIAS IS THE
07:14:10.958 --> 07:14:15.028
FORMAL TRAINING. UM IT KIND OF
07:14:15.095 --> 07:14:16.597
CONCERNS ME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE
07:14:16.663 --> 07:14:18.399
A VERY NARROW POOL OF PEOPLE TO,
07:14:18.465 --> 07:14:26.173
UM HIGHER FROM I CAN SEE. I CAN
07:14:26.240 --> 07:14:29.243
SEE THAT, PERHAPS BEING AWARE OF
07:14:29.309 --> 07:14:31.211
IT, BUT THEN HAVING A TRAINING
07:14:31.278 --> 07:14:32.413
TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHY THIS
07:14:32.479 --> 07:14:34.948
IS NOT APPROPRIATE OR THIS IS
07:14:35.015 --> 07:14:36.583
WHY IT'S YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT
07:14:36.650 --> 07:14:39.253
YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF HOW THIS
07:14:39.319 --> 07:14:46.393
UM MAY PROVE TO BE OF CONCERN.
07:14:46.460 --> 07:14:49.263
BUT I IT IN TODAY'S REALM OF OUR
07:14:49.329 --> 07:14:55.335
CULTURE. UM, WE'RE. WE BECOME
07:14:55.402 --> 07:14:57.271
VERY SENSITIVE INTO WHAT IS
07:14:57.337 --> 07:14:58.238
CONSIDERED INAPPROPRIATE OR
07:14:58.305 --> 07:15:02.476
APPROPRIATE. I'M A LITTLE
07:15:02.543 --> 07:15:04.311
CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS IS
07:15:04.378 --> 07:15:06.947
GOING TO AFFECT THE POOL OF
07:15:07.014 --> 07:15:08.482
PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO BE
07:15:08.549 --> 07:15:10.818
ABLE TO HIRE ESPECIALLY WHEN NOT
07:15:10.884 --> 07:15:12.052
EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME TRAINING
07:15:12.119 --> 07:15:13.387
OR THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT
07:15:13.454 --> 07:15:16.657
THAT SOME OF US MAY HAVE. AM I
07:15:16.723 --> 07:15:18.158
MAKING ANY SENSE TO YOU?
07:15:18.225 --> 07:15:21.895
CERTAINLY YES. SO THE DEFINITION
07:15:21.962 --> 07:15:23.163
THAT WE ALSO RECOMMENDED ABOUT
07:15:23.230 --> 07:15:24.798
WHAT BIASES AND WHAT IT LOOKS
07:15:24.865 --> 07:15:26.467
LIKE. WE'LL HELP WITH THAT TO
07:15:26.533 --> 07:15:27.634
MAKE IT CLEAR FOR PEOPLE AS
07:15:27.701 --> 07:15:28.569
THEY'RE PERFORMING THESE
07:15:28.635 --> 07:15:30.804
SCREENINGS AND INVESTIGATIONS
07:15:30.871 --> 07:15:32.272
AND THE APPLICANT SOCIAL MEDIA
07:15:32.339 --> 07:15:33.841
ACTIVITY ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF
07:15:33.907 --> 07:15:35.309
THINGS THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING
07:15:35.375 --> 07:15:36.977
FOR, AND THE TYPES OF BIASES
07:15:37.044 --> 07:15:38.278
THAT WOULD BE CONCERNING THERE
07:15:38.345 --> 07:15:39.279
ARE THOSE THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT
07:15:39.346 --> 07:15:41.048
SOMEBODY IS INCAPABLE. OF
07:15:41.114 --> 07:15:43.183
EXERCISING THE DUTIES OF A PEACE
07:15:43.250 --> 07:15:45.786
OFFICER WITH FAIRNESSAND SO IT
07:15:45.853 --> 07:15:47.287
WOULD BE UP TO THOSE
07:15:47.354 --> 07:15:47.855
INVESTIGATORS TO USING THE
07:15:47.921 --> 07:15:50.858
DEFINITION OF WHAT BIASES. TO
07:15:50.924 --> 07:15:52.292
ASSESS WHETHER WHAT THEY'RE
07:15:52.359 --> 07:15:53.694
SEEING ON SOMEBODY'S SOCIAL
07:15:53.760 --> 07:15:55.195
MEDIA PAGE, PERHAPS OTHER THINGS
07:15:55.262 --> 07:15:56.563
THAT THEY'VE SEEN IN THE
07:15:56.630 --> 07:15:57.431
BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION OF
07:15:57.498 --> 07:15:59.733
SOMEBODY, UM, WOULD MAKE IT SO
07:15:59.800 --> 07:16:01.935
THAT THAT PERSON CAN'T BE FAIR
07:16:02.002 --> 07:16:03.103
AS A PEACE OFFICER, AND THAT'S
07:16:03.170 --> 07:16:07.007
WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR.
07:16:07.074 --> 07:16:14.147
OKAY? HMM. AND I AM GETTING YOUR
07:16:14.214 --> 07:16:15.949
INTENT. I'M JUST TRYING TO
07:16:16.016 --> 07:16:17.384
FIGURE OUT HOW THAT MAY AFFECT
07:16:17.451 --> 07:16:21.989
SOME PEOPLE'S HUMOR. PERCEPTION
07:16:22.055 --> 07:16:25.826
OF WHAT HUMOR IS. UM AND HOW
07:16:25.893 --> 07:16:31.298
THAT MAY AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO
07:16:31.365 --> 07:16:36.770
GOING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. UM. SO
07:16:36.837 --> 07:16:40.607
THAT'S THE NATURE OF SOME OF THE
07:16:40.674 --> 07:16:42.943
POSTS THAT WE LOOKED AT MIGHT BE
07:16:43.010 --> 07:16:44.778
HELPFUL. SO CERTAINLY PEOPLE
07:16:44.845 --> 07:16:45.779
JOKE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE
07:16:45.846 --> 07:16:47.714
CONTEXT OF THE POST WOULD BE
07:16:47.781 --> 07:16:49.816
SOMETHING THAT THE BACKGROUND.
07:16:49.883 --> 07:16:51.385
INVESTIGATORS WOULD CERTAINLY BE
07:16:51.451 --> 07:16:52.886
INTERESTED IN EVALUATING AS THEY
07:16:52.953 --> 07:16:54.187
WERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS,
07:16:54.254 --> 07:16:55.923
RIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE
07:16:55.989 --> 07:16:57.524
WERE SEEING THAT OFFICERS HAD
07:16:57.591 --> 07:16:58.759
POSTED BEFORE THEY WERE EMPLOYED
07:16:58.825 --> 07:17:02.930
WERE EXTREMELY DEROGATORY TOWARD
07:17:02.996 --> 07:17:04.598
A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE. SO
07:17:04.665 --> 07:17:05.465
THERE WERE EXAMPLES AND WE SHARE
07:17:05.532 --> 07:17:07.401
SOME EXAMPLES OF THESE IN THE
07:17:07.467 --> 07:17:09.269
TEXT OF THE REPORT, BUT
07:17:09.336 --> 07:17:10.037
SUGGESTIONS THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE
07:17:10.103 --> 07:17:11.271
TERRORISTS, FOR EXAMPLE. SO
07:17:11.338 --> 07:17:12.806
THAT'S A THAT'S A HATEFUL
07:17:12.873 --> 07:17:14.942
STATEMENT. THAT'S NOT A JOKE,
07:17:15.008 --> 07:17:16.476
RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE KIND OF
07:17:16.543 --> 07:17:18.445
THING THAT, UH, POLICE
07:17:18.512 --> 07:17:19.513
DEPARTMENT WOULD WANT TO BE
07:17:19.580 --> 07:17:21.415
AWARE OF, AS THEY'RE DOING THESE
07:17:21.481 --> 07:17:23.116
SCREENINGS OF PEACE OFFICERS AND
07:17:23.183 --> 07:17:24.651
MIGHT SUGGEST THAT MAYBE THEY
07:17:24.718 --> 07:17:26.787
CAN'T BE FAIR OR IMPARTIAL IN
07:17:26.853 --> 07:17:27.654
THE EXERCISE OF THEIR DUTIES.
07:17:27.721 --> 07:17:37.564
MHM. OKAY? ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
07:17:37.631 --> 07:17:39.700
UM I'M CERTAINLY JURY AND I
07:17:39.766 --> 07:17:41.802
APPRECIATE THIS MEASURE. I THINK
07:17:41.868 --> 07:17:42.869
IT'S A COMMON SENSE TO MEASURE.
07:17:42.936 --> 07:17:44.271
I THINK IT'S A CLEAR DELINEATION
07:17:44.338 --> 07:17:48.775
BETWEEN COMEDY AND JOKING AND
07:17:48.842 --> 07:17:52.512
RACES, BIGOTRY AND XENOPHOBIC
07:17:52.579 --> 07:17:54.982
SEXISM ALL THAT AND IT'S NO GRAY
07:17:55.048 --> 07:17:57.818
AREA THERE AND I KNOW ABOUT
07:17:57.884 --> 07:17:58.819
BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT AND
07:17:58.885 --> 07:18:02.255
BEING ABLE TO AFFORD PEOPLE.
07:18:02.322 --> 07:18:03.790
CERTAIN YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION
07:18:03.857 --> 07:18:05.592
AND GUIDELINES, BUT WE KNOW WHO
07:18:05.659 --> 07:18:09.529
THE REAL WHAT PEOPLE THINK BASED
07:18:09.596 --> 07:18:12.566
ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY
07:18:12.633 --> 07:18:13.567
POST IN POLICE DEPARTMENT IN MY
07:18:13.634 --> 07:18:16.169
DISTRICT FOUND NUMEROUS OFFICERS
07:18:16.236 --> 07:18:20.874
WHO POSTED RACIAL AH. AH
07:18:20.941 --> 07:18:23.877
STATEMENTS VERY CLEAR. NO
07:18:23.944 --> 07:18:24.911
TRAINING NEEDED. YOU DON'T NEED
07:18:24.978 --> 07:18:28.415
TRAINING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE
07:18:28.482 --> 07:18:29.549
YOU DON'T POST THE RIGHT THING,
07:18:29.616 --> 07:18:32.119
BECAUSE MOST OF WHAT PEOPLE PUT
07:18:32.185 --> 07:18:33.220
UP THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY
07:18:33.286 --> 07:18:33.854
BELIEVE. THAT'S WHAT'S IN THEIR
07:18:33.920 --> 07:18:36.556
HEART. AND THOSE OFFICERS WERE
07:18:36.623 --> 07:18:40.093
FIRED. UM OR PUT ON SUSPENSION.
07:18:40.160 --> 07:18:42.362
HE HAD TO BE FIRED AND THAT
07:18:42.429 --> 07:18:44.097
APARTMENT IN MY CITY, BUT IT WAS
07:18:44.164 --> 07:18:46.466
VERY TROUBLING WHAT YOU SAW BY
07:18:46.533 --> 07:18:49.770
MEN AND WOMEN WHO WERE ALREADY
07:18:49.836 --> 07:18:52.105
SWORN TO DO TO PROTECT AND SERVE
07:18:52.172 --> 07:18:53.373
, BUT HE HAD THIS TYPE OF
07:18:53.440 --> 07:18:56.343
MINDSET TOWARD TOWARD, UH,
07:18:56.410 --> 07:18:59.312
MINORITY GROUPS AND WOMEN AND
07:18:59.379 --> 07:19:01.782
OTHER ETHNIC COMMUNITIES. SO I
07:19:01.848 --> 07:19:03.150
THINK THERE'S A LONG WHAT WE DO
07:19:03.216 --> 07:19:05.052
TO COMMON SENSE MEASURE. I DON'T
07:19:05.118 --> 07:19:05.952
THINK IT GOES. FAR ENOUGH,
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BECAUSE AGAIN, UM WE SHOULD WANT
07:19:08.955 --> 07:19:10.991
TO KNOW, AND IT WAS RECENT. IT'S
07:19:11.058 --> 07:19:12.526
NOT EVEN RECENTLY. MORE WAS FIVE
07:19:12.592 --> 07:19:15.128
YEARS AGO, FBI DID A STUDY ABOUT
07:19:15.195 --> 07:19:16.129
THE RECRUITMENT AND LAW
07:19:16.196 --> 07:19:18.031
ENFORCEMENT AND IT SAYS MANY
07:19:18.098 --> 07:19:20.200
THAT ARE BEING RECRUITED OR FROM
07:19:20.267 --> 07:19:22.736
WHITE AREA ORGANIZATIONS. THE
07:19:22.803 --> 07:19:24.971
KKK AND THEY THEY FOUND THAT OUT
07:19:25.038 --> 07:19:27.774
BY LOOKING AT PREVIOUS POSTINGS
07:19:27.841 --> 07:19:30.177
AND AFFILIATION, SO I THINK THIS
07:19:30.243 --> 07:19:31.678
WILL MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER
07:19:31.745 --> 07:19:33.447
. IT'LL MAKE THOSE MEN AND WOMEN
07:19:33.513 --> 07:19:34.715
WHO DO THEIR JOB AND RESPECTFUL
07:19:34.781 --> 07:19:37.250
WAY SAFER SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT
07:19:37.317 --> 07:19:38.418
THIS MEASURE. SO THANK YOU. SO
07:19:38.485 --> 07:19:40.287
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE
07:19:40.353 --> 07:19:42.255
DISPUTE, TÌM I APPRECIATE IT.
07:19:42.322 --> 07:19:44.057
THANK YOU. AND SENATOR KOBACH. I
07:19:44.124 --> 07:19:47.027
DO APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION.
07:19:47.094 --> 07:19:50.363
JUST SO IF I CAN PUT YOUR MIND
07:19:50.430 --> 07:19:52.199
AT EASE, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE
07:19:52.265 --> 07:19:53.967
THAT'S WHAT POST WILL DO. IT
07:19:54.034 --> 07:19:57.270
TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF
07:19:57.337 --> 07:19:59.406
THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE OUTLINED
07:19:59.473 --> 07:20:01.775
SO THAT IT COULD COME UP WITH A
07:20:01.842 --> 07:20:02.843
COMPREHENSIVE DEFINITION. THAT
07:20:02.909 --> 07:20:09.049
WILL, UH AH! APPROPRIATELY FIT
07:20:09.116 --> 07:20:10.917
WHAT IT IS. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE
07:20:10.984 --> 07:20:14.488
SURE WE ROOT OUT. AND I'M HAPPY
07:20:14.554 --> 07:20:16.389
TO PASS ON THIS REPORT TO YOU
07:20:16.456 --> 07:20:18.625
RIGHT NOW. I AM SORRY THAT I
07:20:18.692 --> 07:20:20.560
HADN'T BROUGHT IT WITH ME
07:20:20.627 --> 07:20:21.561
MYSELF, BUT I'M GLAD THAT THE
07:20:21.628 --> 07:20:22.562
AUDITORS THOUGHT OF BRINGING IT
07:20:22.629 --> 07:20:24.531
WITH THEM IN COLOR. YOU CAN SEE
07:20:24.598 --> 07:20:26.933
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY
07:20:27.000 --> 07:20:29.402
FOUND, AND THIS IS JUST AN A
07:20:29.469 --> 07:20:31.304
MINUSCULE. A HANDFUL OF SEVERAL
07:20:31.371 --> 07:20:35.242
HANDFULS OF. OF SOCIAL MEDIA
07:20:35.308 --> 07:20:38.779
POST THAT CURRENT OFFICERS DID
07:20:38.845 --> 07:20:39.846
NOT THINK OF BLOCKING OR
07:20:39.913 --> 07:20:41.715
CHANGING THEIR NAMES. THEY'RE
07:20:41.782 --> 07:20:47.254
NOT ONE OF THE BRIGHTER ONES. UM
07:20:47.320 --> 07:20:49.289
THANKFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE WE GOT
07:20:49.356 --> 07:20:51.892
TO HAVE THIS TO SEE WHAT SOME
07:20:51.958 --> 07:20:53.860
PEOPLE THINK. THESE ARE THE
07:20:53.927 --> 07:20:55.729
PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
07:20:55.796 --> 07:20:56.863
THE REFEREES IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
07:20:56.930 --> 07:20:58.565
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE
07:20:58.632 --> 07:21:01.001
LOOK TO TRUST. TO SEE THAT
07:21:01.067 --> 07:21:02.602
SOMEONE KNOWS BETTER IN HOW TO
07:21:02.669 --> 07:21:04.204
HANDLE A CERTAIN SITUATION. SO
07:21:04.271 --> 07:21:07.340
THIS IS WHAT SCARES ME. AND THIS
07:21:07.407 --> 07:21:08.942
IS WHAT SHOULD BE SCARING ALL OF
07:21:09.009 --> 07:21:11.011
US. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE PEOPLE
07:21:11.077 --> 07:21:15.982
WHO. POST THINGS LIKE THIS OR
07:21:16.049 --> 07:21:17.217
THINK THIS WAY REFLECT THIS KIND
07:21:17.284 --> 07:21:21.121
OF PRIORITIES OR VALUES. SHOULD
07:21:21.188 --> 07:21:23.023
ALSO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF A
07:21:23.089 --> 07:21:27.093
GUN. NEXT TO THEM. THAT'S JUST
07:21:27.160 --> 07:21:28.862
MY HUMBLE OPINION. AND I SEE
07:21:28.929 --> 07:21:31.498
THAT WITH A LOT OF LOVE AND
07:21:31.565 --> 07:21:33.366
SUPPORT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. AH,
07:21:33.433 --> 07:21:39.072
UM UH AND EVEN THOUGH. I'M SURE
07:21:39.139 --> 07:21:40.373
THERE ARE ALSO FOLKS HERE THAT
07:21:40.440 --> 07:21:41.908
WILL ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT
07:21:41.975 --> 07:21:43.376
GOING THROUGH AN APPLICATION
07:21:43.443 --> 07:21:45.445
PROCESS IS A VERY TEDIOUS, LONG
07:21:45.512 --> 07:21:49.382
PROCESS. AND SO BY THE TIME
07:21:49.449 --> 07:21:50.517
PEOPLE MAKE IT THROUGH TO THE
07:21:50.584 --> 07:21:54.788
FINAL CUT AH, UM UH, A LOT OF
07:21:54.855 --> 07:21:57.657
WEANING HAS TAKEN PLACE, SO I'M
07:21:57.724 --> 07:21:59.759
HAPPY TO PASS THIS ON TO YOU. IF
07:21:59.826 --> 07:22:09.269
YOU THINK THIS IS GONNA HELP.
07:22:09.336 --> 07:22:10.537
AND WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY
07:22:10.604 --> 07:22:14.040
ASK FOR I VOTE. THANK YOU. FAST
07:22:14.107 --> 07:22:14.441
RECOMMENDATION TO
07:22:14.507 --> 07:22:15.275
APPROPRIATIONS. IS THERE A
07:22:15.342 --> 07:22:18.478
MOTION FOR THIS MEASURE? IT'S
07:22:18.545 --> 07:22:19.679
BEEN MOVED MY SENATOR CHARLES
07:22:19.746 --> 07:22:22.649
BOG. COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE
07:22:22.716 --> 07:22:29.556
ROLL ON A B 25 47. MAYBE 25 47
07:22:29.623 --> 07:22:31.892
BRADFORD PHùBOGUE KOBO GUY
07:22:31.958 --> 07:22:36.029
KAMLAGER SKINNER. MEASURES TWO
07:22:36.096 --> 07:22:38.064
VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROAD OPEN
07:22:38.131 --> 07:22:39.165
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
07:22:39.232 --> 07:22:45.939
THANK YOU. MR KARL ROVE. YOU
07:22:46.006 --> 07:22:47.674
HAVE TWO MEASURES YOU HAVE 21 67
07:22:47.741 --> 07:22:52.112
24 18. NAME YOUR PLEASURE. 21
07:22:52.178 --> 07:22:58.818
67. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
07:22:58.885 --> 07:23:01.288
CHAIR, A B 21 67 ENCOURAGES
07:23:01.354 --> 07:23:03.223
RESTRAINT IN THE OVER ALLIANCE
07:23:03.290 --> 07:23:03.757
ON INCARCERATION REQUIRING
07:23:03.823 --> 07:23:07.560
COURTS TO CONSIDER. OTHER
07:23:07.627 --> 07:23:08.395
ALTERNATIVES AND SENTENCING
07:23:08.461 --> 07:23:10.764
DECISIONS FOR EXISTING LAW
07:23:10.830 --> 07:23:12.065
CONTAINS NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF
07:23:12.132 --> 07:23:14.301
MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES VERY
07:23:14.367 --> 07:23:15.769
FEW SECTIONS AND EITHER LIMIT
07:23:15.835 --> 07:23:17.170
NOR DISCOURAGED INCARCERATION
07:23:17.237 --> 07:23:19.172
HAS NOTED IN THE COMMITTEE ON
07:23:19.239 --> 07:23:20.373
REVISION OF THE PENAL CODES,
07:23:20.440 --> 07:23:22.575
2021 REPORT. THIS LACK OF
07:23:22.642 --> 07:23:24.177
DIRECTION IS PUT CALIFORNIA
07:23:24.244 --> 07:23:26.079
BEHIND STATES SUCH AS ALABAMA,
07:23:26.146 --> 07:23:27.547
ARKANSAS, MINNESOTA, TENNESSEE
07:23:27.614 --> 07:23:29.316
AND NEW YORK, ALL OF WHICH ARE
07:23:29.382 --> 07:23:30.917
ALREADY REQUIRE SENTENCES TO BE
07:23:30.984 --> 07:23:31.952
THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS
07:23:32.018 --> 07:23:34.721
POSSIBLE. OR IN THE CASE OF NEW
07:23:34.788 --> 07:23:37.190
YORK, EXPLICIT EXPLICIT THESE
07:23:37.257 --> 07:23:38.091
DAYS AT THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF
07:23:38.158 --> 07:23:38.792
CONFINEMENT SHOULD BE IMPOSED.
07:23:38.858 --> 07:23:40.794
SUCH PRACTICES ARE ONLINE WITH
07:23:40.860 --> 07:23:41.661
SEVERAL CASE STUDIES IN A
07:23:41.728 --> 07:23:43.096
POINTED TOWARDS EVIDENCE OF
07:23:43.163 --> 07:23:44.297
DIVERSION, BEING AN EFFECTIVE
07:23:44.364 --> 07:23:45.265
METHOD AND DECREASING FUTURE
07:23:45.332 --> 07:23:47.167
CONVICTIONS. FURTHERMORE
07:23:47.233 --> 07:23:49.202
ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION
07:23:49.269 --> 07:23:49.903
HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO LEAD TO
07:23:49.970 --> 07:23:51.538
REDUCE PRISON AND JAIL COSTS
07:23:51.604 --> 07:23:53.673
LOWER RECIDIVISM RATES AND ARE
07:23:53.740 --> 07:23:54.841
ONE WAY TO ADDRESS HARMFUL
07:23:54.908 --> 07:23:55.809
RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE
07:23:55.875 --> 07:23:58.545
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. OVERALL
07:23:58.611 --> 07:23:59.913
BY REQUIRING COURTS PRESIDING
07:23:59.980 --> 07:24:01.247
OVER CRIMINAL MATTER TO CONSIDER
07:24:01.314 --> 07:24:03.917
ALTERNATIVES INCARCERATION. A B
07:24:03.984 --> 07:24:06.186
21 67 SHIPS CALIFORNIA AWAY FROM
07:24:06.252 --> 07:24:08.121
AN OVERLY PERIOD VCI SYSTEM THAT
07:24:08.188 --> 07:24:09.289
IS SUPPORTED. FORTUNATELY
07:24:09.356 --> 07:24:10.557
IMPACTS MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES
07:24:10.623 --> 07:24:11.691
TOWARDS AND MOVES TOWARDS THE
07:24:11.758 --> 07:24:14.294
REHABILITATION EFFORTS.
07:24:14.361 --> 07:24:15.295
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND OTHER
07:24:15.362 --> 07:24:18.531
DIVERSION PROGRAMS. THIS BILL IS
07:24:18.598 --> 07:24:19.499
SPONSORED BY THEIR FRIENDS
07:24:19.566 --> 07:24:20.567
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
07:24:20.633 --> 07:24:21.468
INITIATE JUSTICE AND THE
07:24:21.534 --> 07:24:22.535
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
07:24:22.602 --> 07:24:25.271
WORKERS. WITH ME TO TESTIFY AND
07:24:25.338 --> 07:24:27.140
SUPPORT OVER THE PHONE IS RA
07:24:27.207 --> 07:24:29.009
JANE JANIE ON BEHALF OF INITIATE
07:24:29.075 --> 07:24:30.810
JUSTICE. AND HERE IN THE HEARING
07:24:30.877 --> 07:24:33.013
ROOM AS A TECHNICAL WITNESS IS
07:24:33.079 --> 07:24:34.214
RICK OWENS, SENIOR STAFF
07:24:34.280 --> 07:24:36.149
ATTORNEY WITH THE COMMITTEE ON
07:24:36.216 --> 07:24:41.421
THE REVISION OF THE PENAL CODE.
07:24:41.488 --> 07:24:43.023
YEAH SO, MR CHAIR. I HAVE ONE
07:24:43.089 --> 07:24:45.058
WITNESS OVER THE PHONE ROD JANIE
07:24:45.125 --> 07:24:45.959
, ON BEHALF OF INITIATE JUSTICE
07:24:46.026 --> 07:24:48.094
. I HAVE ANOTHER WITNESS, COHEN
07:24:48.161 --> 07:24:49.662
, WHO'S HERE, PROTECTED AS A
07:24:49.729 --> 07:24:50.463
TACTICAL WITNESS. AND WHAT
07:24:50.530 --> 07:24:51.631
ORDER? DO YOU WANT TO GIVE? JUST
07:24:51.698 --> 07:24:53.466
11 WILL BE TESTIFYING. RA JANEY
07:24:53.533 --> 07:24:55.468
ON THE PHONE. RAJ RAJ. ANY
07:24:55.535 --> 07:24:58.204
AVAILABLE JUSTICE? YEAH. ARE
07:24:58.271 --> 07:25:04.444
THEY READY? HOPE SO OPERATOR OR
07:25:04.511 --> 07:25:09.716
PROGENY. RAW JENNY, AVAILABLE.
07:25:09.783 --> 07:25:11.618
IF NOT, WE'LL GO WITH MR ONE.
07:25:11.684 --> 07:25:16.056
OKAY, GO AHEAD. HELLO. GOOD
07:25:16.122 --> 07:25:18.591
EVENING AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
07:25:18.658 --> 07:25:20.493
MY NAME IS ROZ AVIS, JANIE AND
07:25:20.560 --> 07:25:21.795
I'M PLEASED TO SPEAK TONIGHT IN
07:25:21.861 --> 07:25:24.664
SUPPORT OF A B 21 67. I SUPPORT
07:25:24.731 --> 07:25:26.232
THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE I'M
07:25:26.299 --> 07:25:28.568
FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND THE
07:25:28.635 --> 07:25:29.836
WORK I DO TODAY IS ROOTED IN
07:25:29.903 --> 07:25:30.970
RESTORED IT AND TRANSFORMATIVE
07:25:31.037 --> 07:25:34.174
JUSTICE. 80 21 67 IS A MUCH
07:25:34.240 --> 07:25:36.076
NEEDED ADDITION TO CALIFORNIA
07:25:36.142 --> 07:25:37.544
PENAL CODE ENCOURAGING
07:25:37.610 --> 07:25:39.779
ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION
07:25:39.846 --> 07:25:41.448
WILL NOT ONLY SAVE THE STATE
07:25:41.514 --> 07:25:43.016
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT ALSO
07:25:43.083 --> 07:25:43.683
PROVIDE THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA
07:25:43.750 --> 07:25:44.651
WITH BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY
07:25:44.717 --> 07:25:47.253
OUTCOME. AND BOTH. MY
07:25:47.320 --> 07:25:48.388
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IS THE
07:25:48.455 --> 07:25:49.322
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR
07:25:49.389 --> 07:25:52.158
INITIATE JUSTICE. AND LIVED
07:25:52.225 --> 07:25:53.159
EXPERIENCE AS A FORMERLY
07:25:53.226 --> 07:25:56.296
INCARCERATED ARTISTS AND OTHER
07:25:56.362 --> 07:25:57.730
I'VE SEEN THE POWERFUL EFFECTS
07:25:57.797 --> 07:25:59.099
THAT DIVERSION AND RESTORATIVE
07:25:59.165 --> 07:26:00.433
JUSTICE PROGRAMS HAVE ON
07:26:00.500 --> 07:26:02.168
INDIVIDUAL IN MY TIME
07:26:02.235 --> 07:26:04.871
INCARCERATED. I MET MANY WOMEN
07:26:04.938 --> 07:26:06.072
WHO FELL THROUGH THE SYSTEM TIME
07:26:06.139 --> 07:26:07.774
AND TIME AGAIN. AND I'VE SEEN
07:26:07.841 --> 07:26:09.909
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT LOOP IS
07:26:09.976 --> 07:26:10.543
DISRUPTED THROUGH THE DISCOVERY
07:26:10.610 --> 07:26:11.611
OF ART OR CRAFT UNDER THE
07:26:11.678 --> 07:26:13.780
MEETING OF BASIC NEEDS, AND
07:26:13.847 --> 07:26:14.714
THROUGH ACTUAL MEANS THAT
07:26:14.781 --> 07:26:15.715
ACCOUNTABILITY INSTEAD OF JUST
07:26:15.782 --> 07:26:17.951
BLANKET PUNISHMENT. I HAVE BEEN
07:26:18.017 --> 07:26:19.619
AT THEIR GRADUATION. I HAVE SEEN
07:26:19.686 --> 07:26:20.753
THEM REUNITED WITH THEIR
07:26:20.820 --> 07:26:22.489
FAMILIES. I HAVE WITNESSED
07:26:22.555 --> 07:26:25.792
CHANGE. THROUGH MY WORK. I
07:26:25.859 --> 07:26:28.261
INVITE PEOPLE IN TO SHARE WITH
07:26:28.328 --> 07:26:29.062
CREATED NEW HORIZONS FOR THEM
07:26:29.129 --> 07:26:30.797
AND WHAT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR
07:26:30.864 --> 07:26:32.031
THEM TO BE A BETTER NEIGHBOR TO
07:26:32.098 --> 07:26:33.733
US ALL? IT IS NOT PRISON OR ANY
07:26:33.800 --> 07:26:35.468
OTHER ONE SIZE FITS ALL
07:26:35.535 --> 07:26:36.769
SOLUTION. INSTEAD IT IS ALMOST
07:26:36.836 --> 07:26:38.938
ALWAYS PROGRAMS THAT CAN EAT
07:26:39.005 --> 07:26:40.106
THEM WHERE THEY ARE AND LEAD
07:26:40.173 --> 07:26:41.274
THEM TO MEANINGFUL MEANS OF
07:26:41.341 --> 07:26:43.009
REPAIR. THE PAST 40 YEARS HAVE
07:26:43.076 --> 07:26:44.811
SHOWN US THAT INCARCERATION IS
07:26:44.878 --> 07:26:45.678
NOT ALWAYS THE BEST AND MOST
07:26:45.745 --> 07:26:47.447
EFFECTIVE TOOLS TO DEAL WITH
07:26:47.514 --> 07:26:49.415
HARM. WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AND
07:26:49.482 --> 07:26:51.017
INVEST IN ALTERNATIVE IF WE WANT
07:26:51.084 --> 07:26:52.552
TO BREAK OUT OF THE HARMFUL
07:26:52.619 --> 07:26:54.420
CYCLES AND MASS INCARCERATION
07:26:54.487 --> 07:26:55.388
AND DISRUPT CYCLES OF VIOLENCE
07:26:55.455 --> 07:26:58.258
AND HARM. FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE
07:26:58.324 --> 07:27:00.026
TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
07:27:00.093 --> 07:27:00.994
THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE FORWARD,
07:27:01.060 --> 07:27:02.695
AND I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE
07:27:02.762 --> 07:27:04.631
COMMITTEE TO PASS A B 21 67
07:27:04.697 --> 07:27:13.973
TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 21
07:27:14.040 --> 07:27:23.016
67. AND. WE HAVE A WITNESS HERE
07:27:23.082 --> 07:27:24.150
FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, AND SO
07:27:24.217 --> 07:27:25.518
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE
07:27:25.585 --> 07:27:26.619
ANY OTHER WITNESSES SUPPORT, I
07:27:26.686 --> 07:27:35.528
SUPPOSE. YES. GOOD EVENING CHAIR
07:27:35.595 --> 07:27:36.462
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
07:27:36.529 --> 07:27:39.365
NAME IS RICK ON AND I'M A SENIOR
07:27:39.432 --> 07:27:40.466
STAFF ATTORNEY FOR THE COMMITTEE
07:27:40.533 --> 07:27:41.834
ON REGION OF THE PENAL CODE. THE
07:27:41.901 --> 07:27:43.303
COMMITTEE ON REVISION OF THE
07:27:43.369 --> 07:27:44.771
PENAL CODE WAS CREATED BY THE
07:27:44.837 --> 07:27:46.105
LEGISLATURE AND HAS BEEN IN
07:27:46.172 --> 07:27:47.273
EXISTENCE SINCE 2020 HAS MADE NO
07:27:47.340 --> 07:27:48.675
SENATOR SKINNER HAS BEEN A
07:27:48.741 --> 07:27:49.742
MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE SINCE IT
07:27:49.809 --> 07:27:51.778
BEGAN ITS WORK IN 2020, AS WELL
07:27:51.844 --> 07:27:53.079
AS SENATOR KAMLAGER WAS FORMERLY
07:27:53.146 --> 07:27:54.847
A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AS
07:27:54.914 --> 07:27:57.283
WELL. THE COMMITTEE'S MANDATE
07:27:57.350 --> 07:27:59.152
HAS BEEN TO RIGOROUSLY EXAMINE
07:27:59.219 --> 07:28:00.286
THE EXISTING CRIMINAL LEGAL
07:28:00.353 --> 07:28:01.788
SYSTEM AND TO MAKE
07:28:01.854 --> 07:28:02.855
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REFORMS THAT
07:28:02.922 --> 07:28:03.923
SIMPLIFY AND RATIONALIZE THE
07:28:03.990 --> 07:28:07.060
LAW. THE PENAL CODE COMMITTEE'S
07:28:07.126 --> 07:28:08.895
RECOMMENDATION THAT SERVES AS
07:28:08.962 --> 07:28:11.631
THE BASIS OF A B 21 67 IS ALL
07:28:11.698 --> 07:28:14.067
ABOUT GIVING JUDGES GUIDANCE ON
07:28:14.133 --> 07:28:15.635
WHEN TO IMPOSE A SENTENCE OF
07:28:15.702 --> 07:28:17.470
INCARCERATION OR WHEN TO IMPOSE
07:28:17.537 --> 07:28:21.074
AN ALTERNATIVE TO INCARCERATION.
07:28:21.140 --> 07:28:22.275
COMMUNITY BASED SOLUTIONS HAVE
07:28:22.342 --> 07:28:23.977
BEEN SHOWN TO LEAD TO BETTER
07:28:24.043 --> 07:28:25.478
RESULTS THAN INCARCERATION IN
07:28:25.545 --> 07:28:27.080
MANY CASES, AND THEY ALSO HAVE
07:28:27.146 --> 07:28:29.182
SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS. AND
07:28:29.249 --> 07:28:30.083
WHILE THE PENAL CODE CONTAINS A
07:28:30.149 --> 07:28:32.185
NUMBER OF SECTIONS THAT REQUIRE
07:28:32.252 --> 07:28:33.086
JUDGES TO INCARCERATE IT DOES
07:28:33.152 --> 07:28:34.721
NOT GIVE CLEAR GUIDANCE ON WHEN
07:28:34.787 --> 07:28:35.855
ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION OR
07:28:35.922 --> 07:28:39.259
APPROPRIATE. THERE IS WIDE
07:28:39.325 --> 07:28:40.293
VARIATION IN INCARCERATION RATES
07:28:40.360 --> 07:28:42.895
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. DATA
07:28:42.962 --> 07:28:44.030
ANALYSIS PERFORMED BY THE
07:28:44.097 --> 07:28:45.465
COMMITTEE SHOWED THAT THE
07:28:45.531 --> 07:28:47.800
INCARCERATION RATE PER 100,000
07:28:47.867 --> 07:28:49.902
PEOPLE RANGE FROM LESS THAN 200
07:28:49.969 --> 07:28:51.571
PEOPLE INCARCERATED IN SOME
07:28:51.638 --> 07:28:53.406
COUNTIES TO NEARLY FIVE TIMES
07:28:53.473 --> 07:28:55.908
THAT AMOUNT AND OTHERS. AND IN
07:28:55.975 --> 07:28:57.176
EVERY COUNTY, EVEN THOSE WITH
07:28:57.243 --> 07:28:59.679
LOWER INCARCERATION RATES. THERE
07:28:59.746 --> 07:29:01.314
WERE SIGNIFICANT RACIAL
07:29:01.381 --> 07:29:03.082
DISPARITIES IN THE RATES WITH
07:29:03.149 --> 07:29:03.950
BLACK PEOPLE VASTLY
07:29:04.017 --> 07:29:04.851
OVERREPRESENTED IN THE
07:29:04.917 --> 07:29:07.420
INCARCERATED POPULATION.
07:29:07.487 --> 07:29:08.788
CALIFORNIA CAN ENCOURAGE THE USE
07:29:08.855 --> 07:29:11.024
OF ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION
07:29:11.090 --> 07:29:12.492
BY INCORPORATING A STATEMENT OF
07:29:12.558 --> 07:29:13.926
RESTRAINT INTO THE PENAL CODE
07:29:13.993 --> 07:29:15.862
THAT GIVES JUDGES GUIDANCE ON
07:29:15.928 --> 07:29:17.063
WHEN TO IMPOSE A SENTENCE OF
07:29:17.130 --> 07:29:18.765
INCARCERATION. IN SUCH
07:29:18.831 --> 07:29:20.800
STATEMENTS ARE WELL ESTABLISHED
07:29:20.867 --> 07:29:22.435
THE NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL
07:29:22.502 --> 07:29:23.936
AND THE MODEL PENAL CODE HAVE
07:29:24.003 --> 07:29:24.904
RECOMMENDED THAT STATES
07:29:24.971 --> 07:29:26.806
DEVELOPED THEM AND OTHER STATES
07:29:26.873 --> 07:29:27.607
, INCLUDING NEW YORK AND THE
07:29:27.674 --> 07:29:28.675
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, HAVE THESE
07:29:28.741 --> 07:29:31.411
TYPES OF STATEMENTS INCORPORATED
07:29:31.477 --> 07:29:33.513
INTO THEIR LAWS. THE CONCLUSION
07:29:33.579 --> 07:29:35.281
OF THE PENAL CODE COMMITTEE WAS
07:29:35.348 --> 07:29:37.383
THAT THIS RECOMMENDATION COULD
07:29:37.450 --> 07:29:38.351
REDUCE INCARCERATION IN THE
07:29:38.418 --> 07:29:40.553
STATE WITHOUT IMPACTING PUBLIC
07:29:40.620 --> 07:29:42.555
SAFETY, AND THAT IT WOULD STILL
07:29:42.622 --> 07:29:43.623
LEAVE JUDGES WITH THE DISCRETION
07:29:43.690 --> 07:29:44.991
TO INCARCERATE WHEN NECESSARY.
07:29:45.058 --> 07:29:46.092
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
07:29:46.159 --> 07:29:47.860
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK
07:29:47.927 --> 07:29:53.633
YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS
07:29:53.700 --> 07:29:55.568
RICK. SO NOW WE WILL CONTINUE
07:29:55.635 --> 07:29:58.237
WITH WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF A B
07:29:58.304 --> 07:30:01.040
21 67 HERE IN ROOM 1 12. MADAM
07:30:01.107 --> 07:30:02.408
CHAIR MEMBERS DAN PHIL ASSAULT
07:30:02.475 --> 07:30:03.643
ON BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES
07:30:03.710 --> 07:30:04.644
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
07:30:04.711 --> 07:30:09.148
OFFICE IN SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING
07:30:09.215 --> 07:30:10.683
. GREGORY FIDEL ON BEHALF OF
07:30:10.750 --> 07:30:12.151
INITIATE JUSTICE, PROUD CO
07:30:12.218 --> 07:30:13.920
SPONSOR STRONG SUPPORT, ALSO
07:30:13.986 --> 07:30:14.987
EXPRESSING SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
07:30:15.054 --> 07:30:16.255
SMART JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA THANK
07:30:16.322 --> 07:30:20.927
YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOING BACK IS
07:30:20.993 --> 07:30:22.762
FOR THE YELLOW BAKER CENTER FOR
07:30:22.829 --> 07:30:25.965
HUMAN RIGHTS AND SUPPORT. THE
07:30:26.032 --> 07:30:27.066
AMERICAN WITH JUSTICE GROUP AND
07:30:27.133 --> 07:30:32.572
SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING ELIJAH, OR
07:30:32.638 --> 07:30:33.773
ANTI RECIPIENTS AND COALITION IN
07:30:33.840 --> 07:30:45.385
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MM.
07:30:45.451 --> 07:30:52.525
OKAY, SEEING. SEE NO MORE
07:30:52.592 --> 07:30:54.894
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND ROOM
07:30:54.961 --> 07:30:56.195
12. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE
07:30:56.262 --> 07:30:57.697
FORWARD WITH SUPPORT WITNESSES
07:30:57.764 --> 07:30:59.031
ON OUR TELECONFERENCE SERVICE.
07:30:59.098 --> 07:31:05.405
MY MR MODERATOR. MR BATTERY.
07:31:05.471 --> 07:31:06.539
WOULD YOU MIND QUEUING ANYONE IN
07:31:06.606 --> 07:31:09.442
SUPPORT OF A B 21 67. IT WILL
07:31:09.509 --> 07:31:15.181
BEGIN. TRUE MEMBERS. IF YOU WISH
07:31:15.248 --> 07:31:17.049
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
07:31:17.116 --> 07:31:18.885
PRESS ONE AND ZERO THIS TIME.
07:31:18.951 --> 07:31:20.119
AND WE'LL START WITH LINE TO 86.
07:31:20.186 --> 07:31:25.425
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING,
07:31:25.491 --> 07:31:27.660
LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON FOR THE
07:31:27.727 --> 07:31:28.694
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC CENTERS
07:31:28.761 --> 07:31:33.032
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. FIND 2
07:31:33.099 --> 07:31:36.769
69, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
07:31:36.836 --> 07:31:38.771
EVENING. WE'RE BACK. AGONZALEZ
07:31:38.838 --> 07:31:41.040
PROUD POST SPONSOR WITH THE%
07:31:41.107 --> 07:31:42.241
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
07:31:42.308 --> 07:31:43.075
WORKERS, CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
07:31:43.142 --> 07:31:47.613
STRONG SUPPORT. FINE TO 52.
07:31:47.680 --> 07:31:52.885
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING
07:31:52.952 --> 07:31:54.220
AND LITTLE WITH CALIFORNIANS PER
07:31:54.287 --> 07:31:55.388
SAFETY, INJUSTICE AND STRONG
07:31:55.455 --> 07:32:00.359
SUPPORT. FLYING TO 41. PLEASE GO
07:32:00.426 --> 07:32:04.664
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS JIM
07:32:04.730 --> 07:32:06.432
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
07:32:06.499 --> 07:32:07.567
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
07:32:07.633 --> 07:32:10.036
OF CALIFORNIA PRODUCT OR SPONSOR
07:32:10.102 --> 07:32:15.174
AND URGENT. I VOTE. THANK YOU.
07:32:15.241 --> 07:32:16.375
MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
07:32:16.442 --> 07:32:20.413
IN Q AT THIS TIME. PERFECT.
07:32:20.480 --> 07:32:21.781
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVING
07:32:21.848 --> 07:32:23.115
HEARD FROM ALL OUR SUPPORT,
07:32:23.182 --> 07:32:24.217
WITNESSES WILL NOW GETTING GOING
07:32:24.283 --> 07:32:26.886
TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WITNESSES
07:32:26.953 --> 07:32:28.654
IN OPPOSITION. WE DO NOT HAVE
07:32:28.721 --> 07:32:30.389
ANY LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES
07:32:30.456 --> 07:32:33.426
REGISTERED WITH US TODAY, SO WE
07:32:33.493 --> 07:32:35.394
WILL CONTINUE WITH ANY WITNESSES
07:32:35.461 --> 07:32:40.533
IN OPPOSITION HERE IN ROOM 1 12.
07:32:40.600 --> 07:32:42.935
SEEN NONE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR
07:32:43.002 --> 07:32:44.837
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION OF A B
07:32:44.904 --> 07:32:49.308
21 67 TELECONFERENCE SERVICES.
07:32:49.375 --> 07:32:51.110
MR MODERATOR, IF YOU WOULDN'T
07:32:51.177 --> 07:32:53.279
MIND, PLEASE QUÊ ANY, UM
07:32:53.346 --> 07:32:55.114
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO A B
07:32:55.181 --> 07:33:01.220
21 67. AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
07:33:01.287 --> 07:33:02.221
IN OPPOSITION OF THIS
07:33:02.288 --> 07:33:03.289
LEGISLATION, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
07:33:03.356 --> 07:33:10.530
THIS TIME. MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE
07:33:10.596 --> 07:33:12.365
NO ONE IS DOING UP AT THIS TIME.
07:33:12.431 --> 07:33:14.400
PERFECT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM
07:33:14.467 --> 07:33:16.736
UM MR MODERATOR WILL BRING IT
07:33:16.802 --> 07:33:19.205
BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO
07:33:19.272 --> 07:33:21.040
OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY
07:33:21.107 --> 07:33:22.108
COMMENTS, CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS
07:33:22.174 --> 07:33:29.549
FOR THE AUTHOR. PERFECT THING.
07:33:29.615 --> 07:33:32.285
PERFECT THANK YOU, SENATOR. UM
07:33:32.351 --> 07:33:34.754
COME LONGER WE DO HAVE A MOTION
07:33:34.820 --> 07:33:36.222
IN THE MOTION IS DO PASS BY
07:33:36.289 --> 07:33:37.189
SENATOR KAMLAGER. MADAM
07:33:37.256 --> 07:33:39.258
CONSULTANT, WOULD YOU MIND? ON
07:33:39.325 --> 07:33:50.036
THE ROLE. B 21 67 STONE. 21 67.
07:33:50.102 --> 07:33:58.044
UM BRADFORD. A TROLL. BOGUENÓ
07:33:58.110 --> 07:34:00.046
BUGNO KAMLAGER. COME LIKE HER. I
07:34:00.112 --> 07:34:07.420
SKINNER SKINNER. I WIENER. THANK
07:34:07.486 --> 07:34:08.788
YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE CURRENTLY
07:34:08.854 --> 07:34:11.290
HAVE 2 TO 1 VOTE AND WE'LL KEEP
07:34:11.357 --> 07:34:12.525
THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
07:34:12.592 --> 07:34:14.894
MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:34:14.961 --> 07:34:18.064
THANK YOU. YEAH SORRY. THAT'S
07:34:18.130 --> 07:34:20.066
OK. SO MR SIMILAR MEMBER COLUMN
07:34:20.132 --> 07:34:22.401
ARE GOING TO MOVE. UH MOVE
07:34:22.468 --> 07:34:23.970
FORWARD WITH ITEM NUMBER 29.
07:34:24.036 --> 07:34:29.275
THAT IS A B 24 18. UM REMEMBER
07:34:29.342 --> 07:34:30.576
COLOR, PLEASE PROCEED WHEN
07:34:30.643 --> 07:34:32.411
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU, MADAM
07:34:32.478 --> 07:34:33.946
CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO START MY
07:34:34.013 --> 07:34:35.681
NOTES SAY GOOD MORNING, BUT, YOU
07:34:35.748 --> 07:34:41.153
KNOW, UM LIKE, YEAH. I KNOW
07:34:41.220 --> 07:34:42.188
YOU'VE ALL WORKED VERY HARD
07:34:42.254 --> 07:34:44.957
TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY
07:34:45.024 --> 07:34:46.292
THANKING THE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
07:34:46.359 --> 07:34:47.927
STAFF ARE WORKING WITH MY OFFICE
07:34:47.994 --> 07:34:49.261
AND I'LL GLADLY ACCEPT THE
07:34:49.328 --> 07:34:50.997
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS A B 24 18,
07:34:51.063 --> 07:34:52.632
ALSO KNOWN AS THE JUSTICE, DATA,
07:34:52.698 --> 07:34:53.499
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
07:34:53.566 --> 07:34:55.568
ACT. WOULD REQUIRE DISTRICT
07:34:55.635 --> 07:34:57.403
ATTORNEYS TO COLLECT AND REPORT
07:34:57.470 --> 07:34:59.472
BASIC CASE INFORMATION. BUT DATA
07:34:59.538 --> 07:35:00.506
BEING HOUSED WITHIN THE
07:35:00.573 --> 07:35:03.075
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. COMMITTEE
07:35:03.142 --> 07:35:04.410
AMENDMENTS TAKING TODAY ADDRESS
07:35:04.477 --> 07:35:05.778
FEEDBACK MY OFFICE RECEIVED FROM
07:35:05.845 --> 07:35:07.413
VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING
07:35:07.480 --> 07:35:08.614
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND
07:35:08.681 --> 07:35:09.582
SEVERAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY
07:35:09.649 --> 07:35:11.617
OFFICES REGARDING THE
07:35:11.684 --> 07:35:12.518
WORKABILITY AND OR
07:35:12.585 --> 07:35:14.120
APPROPRIATENESS FOR DA OFFICERS
07:35:14.186 --> 07:35:16.555
TO REPORT CERTAIN DATA ELEMENTS.
07:35:16.622 --> 07:35:18.057
THE AMENDMENTS ALSO CHANGES
07:35:18.124 --> 07:35:19.158
REFERENCES FROM THE CRIMINAL
07:35:19.225 --> 07:35:21.260
JUSTICE STATISTICS CENTER TO THE
07:35:21.327 --> 07:35:22.294
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PER THE
07:35:22.361 --> 07:35:24.664
REQUEST OF THE DEPARTMENT.
07:35:24.730 --> 07:35:25.531
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS PLAY A
07:35:25.598 --> 07:35:26.699
CENTRAL ROLE THROUGH OUT OUR
07:35:26.766 --> 07:35:29.535
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. NOT
07:35:29.602 --> 07:35:31.103
ONLY DO THEY DETERMINE THE CRIME
07:35:31.170 --> 07:35:32.538
SOMEONE IS CHARGED WITH, BUT
07:35:32.605 --> 07:35:33.873
ALSO WHETHER THEY WILL BE
07:35:33.939 --> 07:35:35.174
DETAINED OR RELEASED. PRETRIAL
07:35:35.241 --> 07:35:36.942
WHETHER THEY'RE CONVICTED OF THE
07:35:37.009 --> 07:35:38.577
CRIME THEY HAVE BEEN CHARGED
07:35:38.644 --> 07:35:40.146
WITH AND HOW SOMEONE'S CRIMINAL
07:35:40.212 --> 07:35:41.147
HISTORY MAY IMPACT THEIR
07:35:41.213 --> 07:35:42.248
TREATMENT JUST TO NAME A FEW
07:35:42.314 --> 07:35:43.983
EXAMPLES. YET DESPITE THIS GREAT
07:35:44.050 --> 07:35:46.419
AMOUNT OF INFLUENCE, VERY FEW
07:35:46.485 --> 07:35:48.387
DÍAS PUBLICLY REPORT MUCH ABOUT
07:35:48.454 --> 07:35:49.922
THE CHARGING RATIONALE THE
07:35:49.989 --> 07:35:51.557
LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES A CASE
07:35:51.624 --> 07:35:54.226
TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND
07:35:54.293 --> 07:35:55.361
THE NUMBER OF CERTAIN CRIMES
07:35:55.428 --> 07:35:56.295
THAT HAVE BEEN CHARGED. THIS
07:35:56.362 --> 07:35:57.229
LACK OF INFORMATION AND
07:35:57.296 --> 07:35:59.031
TRANSPARENCY IS ONLY ENABLED
07:35:59.098 --> 07:36:00.199
RACIAL BIAS TO PROLIFERATE
07:36:00.266 --> 07:36:02.635
WITHIN OUR COMMUNAL LEGAL SYSTEM
07:36:02.702 --> 07:36:03.736
WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE VASTLY
07:36:03.803 --> 07:36:04.804
OVERREPRESENTED IN CALIFORNIA'S
07:36:04.870 --> 07:36:08.240
PRISON POPULATION. HOWEVER THE
07:36:08.307 --> 07:36:09.809
MOVEMENT TOWARDS D A
07:36:09.875 --> 07:36:12.178
TRANSPARENCY IS NOT NEW, IN FACT
07:36:12.244 --> 07:36:14.180
, IS BEING LED IN TANDEM WITH
07:36:14.246 --> 07:36:15.314
EFFORTS BY CRIMINAL JUSTICE
07:36:15.381 --> 07:36:16.449
ORGANIZATIONS AND DISTRICT
07:36:16.515 --> 07:36:19.418
ATTORNEYS THEMSELVES. IN 2018,
07:36:19.485 --> 07:36:21.020
SAN FRANCISCO DE A. BOUDIN
07:36:21.087 --> 07:36:22.421
LAUNCHED PUBLIC DATA DASHBOARDS
07:36:22.488 --> 07:36:23.989
ON ARREST PRESENTED CASES
07:36:24.056 --> 07:36:27.059
PROSECUTED AND TRIALS TO GIVE A
07:36:27.126 --> 07:36:28.127
COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THE
07:36:28.194 --> 07:36:29.195
CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS IN SAN
07:36:29.261 --> 07:36:31.464
FRANCISCO. THIS PRACTICE WAS
07:36:31.530 --> 07:36:33.032
QUICKLY FOLLOWED BY YOUR COUNTY
07:36:33.099 --> 07:36:35.067
D A RICE EGG WHO LAUNCHED A
07:36:35.134 --> 07:36:36.802
PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WEBSITE
07:36:36.869 --> 07:36:38.137
OFFERING VITAL DEMOGRAPHIC DATA
07:36:38.204 --> 07:36:40.172
ON YOLO COUNTY CRIMINAL CASES IN
07:36:40.239 --> 07:36:42.908
2021. AN L A COUNTY D A. DE
07:36:42.975 --> 07:36:44.810
GASCOGNE IN 2022 SHARING OFFICE
07:36:44.877 --> 07:36:48.047
CHARGE RATES IN REAL TIME. A B
07:36:48.114 --> 07:36:50.049
24 18 NOT ONLY BUILDS UPON THIS
07:36:50.116 --> 07:36:51.150
WORK TO ENABLE BETTER
07:36:51.217 --> 07:36:52.084
ACCOUNTABILITY OF CRIMINAL
07:36:52.151 --> 07:36:54.687
PROSECUTION. PROSECUTIONS BUT IT
07:36:54.754 --> 07:36:56.255
ALSO ENSURES WE WILL BE EQUIPPED
07:36:56.322 --> 07:36:57.790
WITH THE DATA. WE NEED TO MAKE
07:36:57.857 --> 07:37:00.059
MUCH NEEDED WELL INFORMED POLICY
07:37:00.126 --> 07:37:01.627
REFORMS MOVING FORWARD. THIS
07:37:01.694 --> 07:37:03.162
BILL IS SPONSORED BY TW
07:37:03.229 --> 07:37:05.898
CALIFORNIA ACTION, THE YELLOW
07:37:05.965 --> 07:37:07.133
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE
07:37:07.199 --> 07:37:08.167
SAN FRANCISCO DISTRICT ATTORNEY
07:37:08.234 --> 07:37:09.001
, THE PROSECUTORS LINES
07:37:09.068 --> 07:37:10.836
CALIFORNIA AND CONGREGATIONS
07:37:10.903 --> 07:37:11.737
ORGANIZED FOR PROPHETIC
07:37:11.804 --> 07:37:15.441
ENGAGEMENT. HERE TO TESTIFY IN
07:37:15.508 --> 07:37:18.778
SUPPORT ON THE PHONE OR YELLOW
07:37:18.844 --> 07:37:20.179
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY JEFFREY
07:37:20.246 --> 07:37:22.314
ZIG AND MICHAEL DOCTOR OFF WITH
07:37:22.381 --> 07:37:27.753
THE BLUE OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
07:37:27.820 --> 07:37:29.789
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CERTAINLY
07:37:29.855 --> 07:37:32.158
MEMBER. KALRA JEFF. MISTER RISK
07:37:32.224 --> 07:37:37.496
ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES GOOD
07:37:37.563 --> 07:37:39.665
EVENING. AND THIS IS JEFF RISING
07:37:39.732 --> 07:37:40.833
ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF YOLO
07:37:40.900 --> 07:37:43.836
COUNTY. THAT WE LIVE IN THE
07:37:43.903 --> 07:37:45.171
GREATEST STATE IN THIS NATION,
07:37:45.237 --> 07:37:46.806
AND WE PRODUCED SOME OF THE
07:37:46.872 --> 07:37:47.540
GREATEST INNOVATIONS IN THE
07:37:47.606 --> 07:37:49.041
WORLD. YET IN THE REALM OF
07:37:49.108 --> 07:37:50.142
CRIMINAL JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA IS
07:37:50.209 --> 07:37:52.778
SIMPLY ALL TOO OFTEN USING
07:37:52.845 --> 07:37:54.079
OUTDATED SYSTEMS AND DATA TO
07:37:54.146 --> 07:37:55.314
MAKE POLICY DECISIONS IN
07:37:55.381 --> 07:37:58.484
CRIMINAL JUSTICE. IT'S TIME FOR
07:37:58.551 --> 07:38:00.486
CALIFORNIA TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF
07:38:00.553 --> 07:38:01.654
US HAVE THOROUGH AND ACCURATE
07:38:01.720 --> 07:38:03.489
DATA ON EVERY ASPECT OF THE
07:38:03.556 --> 07:38:07.026
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. TO BOTH
07:38:07.092 --> 07:38:08.060
ONE. GIVE THE PUBLIC ALL OF THE
07:38:08.127 --> 07:38:09.428
CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION
07:38:09.495 --> 07:38:11.197
THAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS. AFTER
07:38:11.263 --> 07:38:13.399
ALL, IT IS THAT PEOPLE'S DATA.
07:38:13.465 --> 07:38:15.167
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT POLICY
07:38:15.234 --> 07:38:17.036
DECISIONS IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE
07:38:17.102 --> 07:38:17.837
ARE BASED ON TIMELY, ACCURATE
07:38:17.903 --> 07:38:21.140
AND COMPREHENSIVE DATA. FOR
07:38:21.207 --> 07:38:23.175
THESE REASONS. I'M A PROUD
07:38:23.242 --> 07:38:24.310
SPONSOR AND SUPPORTER OF A B 24
07:38:24.376 --> 07:38:27.780
18. 24 18 SEEKS TO DO IS
07:38:27.847 --> 07:38:28.714
EMINENTLY REASONABLE AND
07:38:28.781 --> 07:38:30.883
ACHIEVABLE, IN FACT, HAS JUST
07:38:30.950 --> 07:38:33.853
MENTIONED AND 2021 MY OFFICE,
07:38:33.919 --> 07:38:35.354
THE YOLO COUNTY D, A PARTNERED
07:38:35.421 --> 07:38:36.755
WITH A THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION
07:38:36.822 --> 07:38:38.891
CALLED MEASURES FOR JUSTICE.
07:38:38.958 --> 07:38:40.459
BECOME THE FIRST PROSECUTOR IN
07:38:40.526 --> 07:38:42.761
THE NATION TO MAKE ALL OF OUR
07:38:42.828 --> 07:38:44.897
DATA AVAILABLE ONLINE THROUGH A
07:38:44.964 --> 07:38:48.200
TRUSTED THIRD PARTY PORTAL. NOW
07:38:48.267 --> 07:38:49.535
IN MY COUNTY MEMBERS OF THE
07:38:49.602 --> 07:38:51.770
PUBLIC POLICYMAKERS, THE MEDIA
07:38:51.837 --> 07:38:53.973
EVERYONE CAN SIMPLY LOG ON TO
07:38:54.039 --> 07:38:54.940
THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL AND
07:38:55.007 --> 07:38:56.308
EXAMINE ALMOST EVERY ASPECT OF
07:38:56.375 --> 07:38:59.111
OUR WORK IN THE DA'S OFFICE. AND
07:38:59.178 --> 07:39:00.279
DISSECTED BY RACE, AGE, GENDER,
07:39:00.346 --> 07:39:03.682
ETCETERA. AT THE SAME TIME,
07:39:03.749 --> 07:39:05.251
WE'RE USING THE DATA INTERNALLY
07:39:05.317 --> 07:39:06.785
, HELP DEVELOP NEW POLICIES AND
07:39:06.852 --> 07:39:10.256
ADDRESS RACIAL DISPARITIES. SAY
07:39:10.322 --> 07:39:11.690
THAT THIS HAS BEEN A GAME
07:39:11.757 --> 07:39:13.659
CHANGER FOR US, AND YOU'LL KNOW
07:39:13.726 --> 07:39:14.627
COUNTY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. A B
07:39:14.693 --> 07:39:16.629
24 18 COMES TO YOU TODAY AS A
07:39:16.695 --> 07:39:17.930
PRODUCT OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN
07:39:17.997 --> 07:39:20.032
PROSECUTORS, THE CEO YOU AND
07:39:20.099 --> 07:39:21.600
MANY OTHERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO
07:39:21.667 --> 07:39:23.402
THE IDEA THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND
07:39:23.469 --> 07:39:24.570
TRANSPARENCY IN THE CRIMINAL
07:39:24.637 --> 07:39:26.438
JUSTICE SYSTEM STARTS WITH THE
07:39:26.505 --> 07:39:27.606
DATA. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK
07:39:27.673 --> 07:39:31.410
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
07:39:31.477 --> 07:39:34.446
RYZIK UM, WE DO HAVE A SECOND
07:39:34.513 --> 07:39:36.548
LEAD, UM, SUPPORT WITNESS.
07:39:36.615 --> 07:39:41.420
MICAH, DOCTOR OF. ON THE PHONE.
07:39:41.487 --> 07:39:45.758
YES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING
07:39:45.824 --> 07:39:47.359
, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
07:39:47.426 --> 07:39:49.795
NAME IS MIKE A DOCTOR OFF AND I
07:39:49.862 --> 07:39:51.797
AM A SCARF ATTORNEY AT THE LUO
07:39:51.864 --> 07:39:53.265
OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. ON
07:39:53.332 --> 07:39:55.301
BEHALF OF A SALE. YOU CALIFORNIA
07:39:55.367 --> 07:39:56.902
ACTION WE ARE PROUD TO CO
07:39:56.969 --> 07:40:00.873
SPONSOR 24 18. THE BLU HAS BEEN
07:40:00.940 --> 07:40:02.107
ENGAGED IN PROSECUTORIAL
07:40:02.174 --> 07:40:05.044
ACCOUNTABILITY WORK. HERE IN
07:40:05.110 --> 07:40:06.378
CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE NATION
07:40:06.445 --> 07:40:10.149
FOR OVER A DECADE. IN CALIFORNIA
07:40:10.215 --> 07:40:11.050
. WE ARE PART OF A STATEWIDE
07:40:11.116 --> 07:40:12.518
COALITION OF COMMUNITY
07:40:12.584 --> 07:40:14.653
ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TO HOLD
07:40:14.720 --> 07:40:16.188
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ACCOUNTABLE
07:40:16.255 --> 07:40:17.790
THROUGH DEEP PARTNERSHIP WITH
07:40:17.856 --> 07:40:20.225
THESE GROUPS, WHO ARE MOSTLY LED
07:40:20.292 --> 07:40:21.293
BY SYSTEM IMPACTED BLACK AND
07:40:21.360 --> 07:40:23.262
BROWN LEADERS. WE HAVE PUBLISHED
07:40:23.329 --> 07:40:25.431
REPORTS DETAILING PROSECUTORIAL
07:40:25.497 --> 07:40:27.766
PRACTICES IN COUNTIES AROUND THE
07:40:27.833 --> 07:40:30.035
STATE AND SUCCESSFULLY PUSHED
07:40:30.102 --> 07:40:31.370
FOR POLICY AND PRACTICE CHANGES
07:40:31.437 --> 07:40:34.540
IN MANY JURISDICTIONS. AS YOU
07:40:34.606 --> 07:40:36.141
KNOW, PROSECUTORS ARE THE
07:40:36.208 --> 07:40:37.543
GATEKEEPERS OF THE CRIMINAL
07:40:37.609 --> 07:40:39.645
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, DEPENDING
07:40:39.712 --> 07:40:42.047
ON HOW THEY WIELD THEIR POWER
07:40:42.114 --> 07:40:44.249
THEIR DECISIONS FROM CHARGING TO
07:40:44.316 --> 07:40:46.085
PLEA NEGOTIATION TO SENTENCING
07:40:46.151 --> 07:40:48.120
AND EVEN POST CONVICTION CAN
07:40:48.187 --> 07:40:49.655
EITHER CONTRIBUTE TO OR
07:40:49.722 --> 07:40:51.690
ALLEVIATE OUR MASS INCARCERATION
07:40:51.757 --> 07:40:54.126
PRICES AND THE RACIAL INJUSTICES
07:40:54.193 --> 07:40:55.127
PLAGUING THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
07:40:55.194 --> 07:40:58.263
SYSTEM. GET IN THE ABSENCE OF
07:40:58.330 --> 07:40:59.932
DATA, THIS POWER AND THE
07:40:59.999 --> 07:41:01.633
DECISIONS THAT COME WITH IT ARE
07:41:01.700 --> 07:41:02.634
DIFFICULT TO MONITOR AND
07:41:02.701 --> 07:41:05.237
CHALLENGE. UNDOING THE HARMS OF
07:41:05.304 --> 07:41:06.839
MASS INCARCERATION AND RACIAL
07:41:06.905 --> 07:41:08.907
DISCRIMINATION IN OUR CRIMINAL
07:41:08.974 --> 07:41:09.942
LEGAL SYSTEM REQUIRES
07:41:10.009 --> 07:41:13.178
TRANSPARENCY. PROSECUTORIAL
07:41:13.245 --> 07:41:15.147
DATA. TRANSPARENCY CAN HELP
07:41:15.214 --> 07:41:17.716
INFORM BETTER POLICY MAKING IT
07:41:17.783 --> 07:41:19.385
WILL HELP BUILD A MORE INFORMED
07:41:19.451 --> 07:41:20.686
AND ENGAGED ELECTORATE WHO CAN
07:41:20.753 --> 07:41:22.588
HOLD IT. ELECTED D A S
07:41:22.654 --> 07:41:24.723
ACCOUNTABLE. AND FIGHT FROM
07:41:24.790 --> 07:41:26.825
POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT
07:41:26.892 --> 07:41:28.360
STRENGTHEN RATHER THAN DAMAGE
07:41:28.427 --> 07:41:31.163
OUR COMMUNITIES. ADDITIONAL DATA
07:41:31.230 --> 07:41:32.931
WILL INFORM COMMUNITY MEMBERS
07:41:32.998 --> 07:41:35.067
THE LEGISLATURE AND D A S
07:41:35.134 --> 07:41:36.535
THEMSELVES AS WE COLLECTIVELY
07:41:36.602 --> 07:41:38.904
PURSUE SOLUTIONS THAT CREATE
07:41:38.971 --> 07:41:40.105
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND ADDRESS
07:41:40.172 --> 07:41:43.175
ROOT CAUSES OF HARM. WE BELIEVE
07:41:43.242 --> 07:41:45.644
THAT A B 24 18 IS A CRITICAL
07:41:45.711 --> 07:41:47.179
STEP IN ENDING MASS
07:41:47.246 --> 07:41:49.314
INCARCERATION, CURBING RACIAL
07:41:49.381 --> 07:41:50.182
INJUSTICE AND DEVELOPING
07:41:50.249 --> 07:41:51.517
STRATEGIES TO PREVENT AN ADDRESS
07:41:51.583 --> 07:41:55.187
HARM. FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS,
07:41:55.254 --> 07:41:57.356
WE ARE PLEASED TO CO SPONSOR A B
07:41:57.423 --> 07:42:01.193
24 18 AND ASK YOU TO SUPPORT
07:42:01.260 --> 07:42:02.194
THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE. THANK
07:42:02.261 --> 07:42:03.662
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY
07:42:03.729 --> 07:42:08.500
MUCH, UM. HIS DOCTOR ROUGH. WE
07:42:08.567 --> 07:42:10.069
WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH ANY
07:42:10.135 --> 07:42:12.137
WITNESSES IN PERSON HERE IN ROOM
07:42:12.204 --> 07:42:15.407
1, 12 PROCEED. MADAM CHAIR
07:42:15.474 --> 07:42:17.209
MEMBERS. DAN PHIL HAS AUTO
07:42:17.276 --> 07:42:18.410
BEHALF ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
07:42:18.477 --> 07:42:18.944
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
07:42:19.011 --> 07:42:20.412
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT
07:42:20.479 --> 07:42:22.247
THAT WAS ALSO ASKED TO TALK TO
07:42:22.314 --> 07:42:24.116
THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROSECUTORS
07:42:24.183 --> 07:42:28.620
ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIA. GOOD
07:42:28.687 --> 07:42:29.621
EVENING. GREGORY FIDDLE WITH
07:42:29.688 --> 07:42:30.522
INITIATE JUSTICE, STRONG
07:42:30.589 --> 07:42:36.095
SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING, ELIJAH OR
07:42:36.161 --> 07:42:37.262
WHAT ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION
07:42:37.329 --> 07:42:41.033
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
07:42:41.100 --> 07:42:42.701
GOOD EVENING. GLENN BECK IS FOR
07:42:42.768 --> 07:42:43.769
THE YELLOW BAKER CENTER FOR
07:42:43.836 --> 07:42:46.872
HUMAN RIGHTS IN SUPPORT. THANK
07:42:46.939 --> 07:42:49.041
YOU VERY MUCH. NOW. WE'LL MOVE
07:42:49.108 --> 07:42:51.877
ON TO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. UM
07:42:51.944 --> 07:42:53.946
BABY 24 8. THE ARE
07:42:54.012 --> 07:42:56.381
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE. MR
07:42:56.448 --> 07:42:57.983
MODERATOR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND,
07:42:58.050 --> 07:42:59.418
PLEASE QUÊ ANY OTHER WITNESSES
07:42:59.485 --> 07:43:01.720
IN SUPPORT OF A B 24 18, WE WILL
07:43:01.787 --> 07:43:05.757
BEGIN THANK YOU. LADIES AND
07:43:05.824 --> 07:43:07.359
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
07:43:07.426 --> 07:43:09.461
OF A B 24 18, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
07:43:09.528 --> 07:43:12.264
FOLLOWED BY 01 FALL BY ZERO. AND
07:43:12.331 --> 07:43:13.432
WE WILL BEGIN TODAY. WITH WINE
07:43:13.499 --> 07:43:17.636
TO 86. YOU ARE OPEN. EVENING
07:43:17.703 --> 07:43:19.304
LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON FOR THE
07:43:19.371 --> 07:43:20.572
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
07:43:20.639 --> 07:43:21.507
ASSOCIATION, AND SUPPORT THANK
07:43:21.573 --> 07:43:26.612
YOU. AS A REMINDER IF YOU ARE IN
07:43:26.678 --> 07:43:29.381
SUPPORT OF A B 24 18, PLEASE
07:43:29.448 --> 07:43:33.919
PRESS 10 TO 52. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
07:43:33.986 --> 07:43:35.587
GOOD EVENING, DEAD LITTLE WITH
07:43:35.654 --> 07:43:36.622
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
07:43:36.688 --> 07:43:39.791
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. ADAM SHARE.
07:43:39.858 --> 07:43:40.959
THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTICIPANTS
07:43:41.026 --> 07:43:44.196
CUTE OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
07:43:44.263 --> 07:43:45.797
MR MODERATOR. HAVING HEARD FROM
07:43:45.864 --> 07:43:46.765
ALL OUR SUPPORT, WITNESSES WILL
07:43:46.832 --> 07:43:49.067
NOW CONTINUE WITH OUR WITNESSES
07:43:49.134 --> 07:43:52.838
IN OPPOSITION TO A B 24 18. WE
07:43:52.905 --> 07:43:54.139
DO NOT HAVE ANY LEAD OPPOSITION
07:43:54.206 --> 07:43:58.877
RECORDED. AS OF NOW, BUT WILL
07:43:58.944 --> 07:44:00.045
NOW CONTINUE WITH ANY WITNESSES
07:44:00.112 --> 07:44:02.381
HERE IN ROOM 1 12. THANK YOU,
07:44:02.447 --> 07:44:03.849
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS COREY
07:44:03.916 --> 07:44:04.650
SALTILLO ON BEHALF OF THE
07:44:04.716 --> 07:44:05.584
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
07:44:05.651 --> 07:44:07.419
ASSOCIATION OF RECORD
07:44:07.486 --> 07:44:09.555
SUPERVISORS WITH RESPECT TO THE
07:44:09.621 --> 07:44:10.522
AUTHOR, AND THE PROPONENTS OF MY
07:44:10.589 --> 07:44:12.558
GOOD FRIEND, THE RICE EGG, JUST
07:44:12.624 --> 07:44:14.393
WANTED TO NOTE. WE BELIEVE THE
07:44:14.459 --> 07:44:15.527
STATED GOALS OF MAYBE 2014
07:44:15.594 --> 07:44:18.497
TRANSPARENCY. AND ACCOUNTABILITY
07:44:18.564 --> 07:44:20.032
ARE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED UNDER
07:44:20.098 --> 07:44:22.267
EXISTING LAW, WHICH REQUIRES
07:44:22.334 --> 07:44:23.535
LOCAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCIES
07:44:23.602 --> 07:44:24.536
TO COLLECT, OF COURSE, IT OF
07:44:24.603 --> 07:44:26.638
DATA ELEMENTS NECESSARY FOR
07:44:26.705 --> 07:44:28.073
TRACKING HOW PEOPLE IN CASES
07:44:28.140 --> 07:44:28.607
MOVE THROUGH THE CRIMINAL
07:44:28.674 --> 07:44:29.741
JUSTICE PROCESS AND THAT THESE
07:44:29.808 --> 07:44:32.277
DATA ARE ALREADY STANDARDIZED.
07:44:32.344 --> 07:44:33.712
AND HOUSED IN A SINGLE
07:44:33.779 --> 07:44:34.813
CENTRALIZED DATA REPOSITORY
07:44:34.880 --> 07:44:37.916
WITHIN DOJ. UM IN THE INTEREST
07:44:37.983 --> 07:44:39.518
OF TIME. I'LL JUST SAY THAT WE
07:44:39.585 --> 07:44:41.320
WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE
07:44:41.386 --> 07:44:42.387
COULD DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS.
07:44:42.454 --> 07:44:45.791
UM, INASMUCH AS ANY OF THESE
07:44:45.857 --> 07:44:49.161
DATA REQUIRE, UM, COLLABORATION
07:44:49.228 --> 07:44:50.729
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TERMS OF
07:44:50.796 --> 07:44:51.964
PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION THAT
07:44:52.030 --> 07:44:53.498
MAY NOT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN THE
07:44:53.565 --> 07:44:55.300
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM
07:44:55.367 --> 07:44:57.603
AND AGAIN WITH THE MANDATE TO
07:44:57.669 --> 07:44:59.037
PROVIDE THESE INFORMATION IN
07:44:59.104 --> 07:45:02.107
THESE DATA. UM THERE ARE NO UH,
07:45:02.174 --> 07:45:03.609
FUNDS APPROPRIATED, THEREFORE,
07:45:03.675 --> 07:45:05.210
SO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NO
07:45:05.277 --> 07:45:05.844
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
07:45:05.911 --> 07:45:10.949
MUCH. SEE NO OTHER WITNESSES
07:45:11.016 --> 07:45:15.554
HERE IN OPPOSITION. UM 24 A B 24
07:45:15.621 --> 07:45:17.089
18 WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH
07:45:17.155 --> 07:45:18.357
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION VR
07:45:18.423 --> 07:45:24.396
TELECONFERENCE. THANK YOU, MADAM
07:45:24.463 --> 07:45:25.897
CHAIR. IF YOU ARE AN OPPOSITION
07:45:25.964 --> 07:45:28.267
TO A B 24 18, PLEASE TAKE THIS
07:45:28.333 --> 07:45:30.269
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESS ONE FALL BY
07:45:30.335 --> 07:45:37.676
010. AND NOBODY IS QUEUING UP.
07:45:37.743 --> 07:45:38.944
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
07:45:39.011 --> 07:45:40.612
MODERATOR. HAVING HEARD FROM ALL
07:45:40.679 --> 07:45:42.180
OUR SUPPORT IN OUR OPPOSITION
07:45:42.247 --> 07:45:44.249
WITNESSES, WE THANK YOU FOR
07:45:44.316 --> 07:45:45.817
TESTIFYING TODAY WE WILL BRING
07:45:45.884 --> 07:45:46.952
IT BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS
07:45:47.019 --> 07:45:48.453
TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE
07:45:48.520 --> 07:45:49.454
ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS THEY
07:45:49.521 --> 07:45:55.394
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OKAY? UM.
07:45:55.460 --> 07:45:58.196
THAT WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE
07:45:58.263 --> 07:46:00.232
BILL. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS
07:46:00.299 --> 07:46:03.735
BECAUSE I DO. UM I KNOW ABOUT
07:46:03.802 --> 07:46:04.870
TRANSPARENCY IN COLLECTING DATA.
07:46:04.936 --> 07:46:10.242
BUT I IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT WAS
07:46:10.309 --> 07:46:11.710
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALREADY
07:46:11.777 --> 07:46:14.279
COLLECT DATA. ON ON PROCESSES
07:46:14.346 --> 07:46:17.149
AND IT WAS MENTIONED BY ONE OF
07:46:17.215 --> 07:46:18.517
OUR WITNESSES HERE TODAY THAT
07:46:18.583 --> 07:46:19.818
THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
07:46:19.885 --> 07:46:21.720
DUPLICATION OF DATA AND, UM, WE
07:46:21.787 --> 07:46:23.755
HAVE A TENDENCY TO DO THAT. I'VE
07:46:23.822 --> 07:46:24.856
NOTICED THIS PAST YEAR AND A
07:46:24.923 --> 07:46:26.825
HALF. WE DO A LOT OF DUPLICATIVE
07:46:26.892 --> 07:46:30.962
WORK BECAUSE. OF VARIETY OF
07:46:31.029 --> 07:46:33.332
REASONS. UM AND WITH REGARDS TO
07:46:33.398 --> 07:46:35.834
THE FUNDS ENABLE AND BE ABLE TO
07:46:35.901 --> 07:46:38.570
ACCOMPLISH THIS EFFORT IF THEY
07:46:38.637 --> 07:46:39.604
WEREN'T NECESSARY. SO IF YOU
07:46:39.671 --> 07:46:41.573
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE GIVE YOU AN
07:46:41.640 --> 07:46:43.842
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE
07:46:43.909 --> 07:46:45.911
CONCERNS OF THE DOUBLE NATIVE
07:46:45.977 --> 07:46:47.546
DATA COLLECTION AS WELL AS THE
07:46:47.612 --> 07:46:49.848
FUNDS ARE THOSE ARE THOSE ARE
07:46:49.915 --> 07:46:51.917
REASONABLE QUESTIONS. SO IN 2015
07:46:51.983 --> 07:46:53.852
, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF TIME,
07:46:53.919 --> 07:46:54.920
KAMALA HARRIS, LAUNCH OPEN
07:46:54.986 --> 07:46:56.588
JUSTICE AND THE OPEN DATA
07:46:56.655 --> 07:46:58.190
PORTAL. PROVIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
07:46:58.256 --> 07:46:59.424
DATA IN RAW FORM AVAILABLE TO
07:46:59.491 --> 07:47:02.661
THE PUBLIC. UM THIS DATA IS
07:47:02.728 --> 07:47:04.796
LIMITED TO WHAT IS PROVIDED BY
07:47:04.863 --> 07:47:05.764
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER
07:47:05.831 --> 07:47:06.431
CRIMINAL JUSTICE PARTNERS ACROSS
07:47:06.498 --> 07:47:07.666
THE STATE UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE
07:47:07.733 --> 07:47:10.035
SECTION 12 5 TO 5 AND CODE
07:47:10.102 --> 07:47:12.938
SECTION 13010. WITH THE AGENCY
07:47:13.004 --> 07:47:14.306
ITSELF, STATING THE REPORTING IS
07:47:14.373 --> 07:47:16.408
THAT UNIFORM SO WHAT A B 24 18
07:47:16.475 --> 07:47:18.810
WOULD DO IS FILL IN THE GAPS
07:47:18.877 --> 07:47:19.578
THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY INCLUDED
07:47:19.644 --> 07:47:21.146
AN OPEN JUSTICE AND REQUIRES THE
07:47:21.213 --> 07:47:23.115
AGENCY TO RELEASE CONSISTENT AND
07:47:23.181 --> 07:47:24.483
CLEAR REPORTING GUIDELINES. AS
07:47:24.549 --> 07:47:25.851
WELL AS INDUSTRY APPROPRIATE
07:47:25.917 --> 07:47:27.252
METHODS TO VERIFY THE
07:47:27.319 --> 07:47:28.120
INFORMATION COLLECTED IS
07:47:28.186 --> 07:47:30.422
ACCURATE AND CAN BE USED AS DRUG
07:47:30.489 --> 07:47:31.056
COMPARISONS BETWEEN
07:47:31.123 --> 07:47:32.591
JURISDICTIONS, WHICH IS ALWAYS A
07:47:32.657 --> 07:47:33.592
CHALLENGE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING
07:47:33.658 --> 07:47:34.893
ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE DATA.
07:47:34.960 --> 07:47:36.027
FURTHERMORE THIS BILL WOULD
07:47:36.094 --> 07:47:37.028
ESTABLISH THE PROSECUTORIAL
07:47:37.095 --> 07:47:39.097
TRANSPARENCY ADVISORY BOARD TO
07:47:39.164 --> 07:47:40.065
ENSURE TRANSPARENCY,
07:47:40.132 --> 07:47:41.633
ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACTIONABLE
07:47:41.700 --> 07:47:43.101
ACCESS TO PROSECUTORIAL DATA, SO
07:47:43.168 --> 07:47:46.538
IT BUILDS UPON WHAT WAS DONE
07:47:46.605 --> 07:47:48.240
SEVEN YEARS AGO AND NOT JUST IN
07:47:48.306 --> 07:47:49.641
FILLING THOSE GAPS, BUT AGAIN
07:47:49.708 --> 07:47:51.910
ESTABLISHING THIS BOARD TO HELP
07:47:51.977 --> 07:47:53.412
MOVING FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT
07:47:53.478 --> 07:47:54.346
THAT TRANSPARENCY AND
07:47:54.413 --> 07:47:58.049
ACCOUNTABILITY CONTINUES. IN
07:47:58.116 --> 07:48:00.385
TERMS OF THE FUNDING MY OFFICE
07:48:00.452 --> 07:48:01.686
THE BILL, SPONSORS ARE
07:48:01.753 --> 07:48:02.621
CONTINUOUSLY ENGAGE IN
07:48:02.687 --> 07:48:03.855
CONVERSATION WITH THE DOJ. TO
07:48:03.922 --> 07:48:04.923
ENSURE THIS BILL IS IN WORKABLE
07:48:04.990 --> 07:48:07.058
IS WORKABLE IN TERMS OF
07:48:07.125 --> 07:48:07.959
TIMELINE, AND THE BILL CURRENTLY
07:48:08.026 --> 07:48:09.027
HAS LANGUAGE STATING OPERATIONAL
07:48:09.094 --> 07:48:10.061
OPERATIONS OF ITS PROVISIONS ARE
07:48:10.128 --> 07:48:13.999
CONTINGENT PRIME APPROPRIATION
07:48:14.065 --> 07:48:15.000
BY THE LEGISLATURE IN TERMS OF
07:48:15.066 --> 07:48:19.271
FUNDING. SO WE DEFINITELY TAKE
07:48:19.337 --> 07:48:21.540
THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND LOOK, IT'S
07:48:21.606 --> 07:48:25.510
RARE TO HAVE A BILL THAT IS A
07:48:25.577 --> 07:48:26.645
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DA'S
07:48:26.711 --> 07:48:29.548
OFFICES IN THE EU. AND I THINK
07:48:29.614 --> 07:48:31.416
THEY BOTH RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR
07:48:31.483 --> 07:48:33.919
IT. AND I THINK THAT WITH THAT
07:48:33.985 --> 07:48:34.519
PARTNERSHIP WILL CONTINUE TO
07:48:34.586 --> 07:48:36.922
WORK IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING HAS
07:48:36.988 --> 07:48:37.823
BEEN A RECOGNITION OF THAT
07:48:37.889 --> 07:48:39.257
CERTAINLY FOR SMALLER COUNTIES
07:48:39.324 --> 07:48:40.392
AND MORE RURAL COUNTIES THAT MAY
07:48:40.459 --> 07:48:42.561
NOT HAVE THE STAFFING LEVELS OF
07:48:42.627 --> 07:48:43.762
RESOURCES. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL
07:48:43.829 --> 07:48:45.664
THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO
07:48:45.730 --> 07:48:46.832
ACCOUNT. WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY
07:48:46.898 --> 07:48:47.766
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
07:48:47.833 --> 07:48:49.601
THAT THEY CAN HELP WITH SOME OF
07:48:49.668 --> 07:48:51.336
THOSE COUNTIES AS WELL TO ENSURE
07:48:51.403 --> 07:48:52.737
THAT THIS COULD BE PUT ONLINE IN
07:48:52.804 --> 07:48:53.939
A WAY THAT DOESN'T TAKE
07:48:54.005 --> 07:48:55.607
RESOURCES AWAY FROM WHAT THEY'RE
07:48:55.674 --> 07:48:58.510
CURRENTLY DOING. OKAY AND THEN
07:48:58.577 --> 07:49:00.445
THE OTHER MINISTERS EARN THAT,
07:49:00.512 --> 07:49:02.447
UM, THAT I'VE SEEN NOTED, AND IN
07:49:02.514 --> 07:49:04.449
MY NOTES IS THE MAKEUP OF THIS
07:49:04.516 --> 07:49:08.753
ADVISORY BOARD. UM AS FAR AS
07:49:08.820 --> 07:49:09.821
HAVING A BALANCED STAKEHOLDER.
07:49:09.888 --> 07:49:14.125
UM. MEMBERSHIP WOULD YOU LIKE TO
07:49:14.192 --> 07:49:18.830
COMMENT ON ON THAT CONCERN THEM
07:49:18.897 --> 07:49:20.298
. YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU
07:49:20.365 --> 07:49:22.267
LOOK, WE'RE OPEN TO ALL
07:49:22.334 --> 07:49:23.602
SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF BALANCE.
07:49:23.668 --> 07:49:27.072
LIKE I SAID, THIS BILL IS THE
07:49:27.138 --> 07:49:28.340
PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE COMING
07:49:28.406 --> 07:49:29.574
FORWARD FOR THE BILL ALREADY
07:49:29.641 --> 07:49:31.576
SHOWS BALANCE OF THE BLUE AND A
07:49:31.643 --> 07:49:32.611
NUMBER OF DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
07:49:32.677 --> 07:49:34.279
FROM AROUND THE STATE, INCLUDING
07:49:34.346 --> 07:49:36.214
OUR NEIGHBORING THE AH, HERE IN
07:49:36.281 --> 07:49:40.819
YELLOW COUNTY IN SO I BELIEVE
07:49:40.886 --> 07:49:42.387
IT. IT OFFERS THE CORRECT
07:49:42.454 --> 07:49:43.822
BALANCE. IF THERE'S SUGGESTIONS
07:49:43.889 --> 07:49:45.490
OF HOW IT CAN BE MADE BETTER,
07:49:45.557 --> 07:49:47.259
I'M CERTAINLY ALL YEARS. I'M
07:49:47.325 --> 07:49:48.326
ALWAYS OPEN TO FURTHER STRETCHES
07:49:48.393 --> 07:49:50.295
TO CREATE BALANCE IN ANY OF MY
07:49:50.362 --> 07:49:51.630
BILLS. BUT PARTICULARLY WHEN
07:49:51.696 --> 07:49:52.731
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A
07:49:52.797 --> 07:49:53.798
BOARD THAT'S GOING TO BE
07:49:53.865 --> 07:49:56.201
OVERSEEING TRANSPARENCY. OKAY SO
07:49:56.268 --> 07:49:57.802
I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
07:49:57.869 --> 07:50:01.072
THE WITNESS THAT WE HAD TODAY.
07:50:01.139 --> 07:50:02.707
KIND OF REACH OUT AND SEE THAT
07:50:02.774 --> 07:50:04.342
THERE COULD BE A BALANCE NEARLY
07:50:04.409 --> 07:50:06.511
OFF THE BILL, SAY AND SEE HOW IT
07:50:06.578 --> 07:50:09.414
EVOLVES ON THAT END BECAUSE I DO
07:50:09.481 --> 07:50:10.749
WANT TO SEE A BALANCED APPROACH
07:50:10.815 --> 07:50:14.753
INTO THAT AND THEN WE'LL, UM
07:50:14.819 --> 07:50:17.422
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE
07:50:17.489 --> 07:50:20.659
DUPLICATIVE PROCESSES. THANK YOU
07:50:20.725 --> 07:50:23.929
. WE HAVE A MOTION, BUT, UM
07:50:23.995 --> 07:50:26.998
ALRIGHT 24 18 NUMBER 29. FOR
07:50:27.065 --> 07:50:31.570
LIKE. I'M SURPRISED WE GOT A
07:50:31.636 --> 07:50:36.474
MOTION. YES WE HAVE DO PASS AS
07:50:36.541 --> 07:50:38.009
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
07:50:38.076 --> 07:50:39.010
YOU'VE TAKEN ALL THE COMMITTEE
07:50:39.077 --> 07:50:43.048
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU, SIR. AH!
07:50:43.114 --> 07:50:44.215
CANCER PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
07:50:44.282 --> 07:50:48.587
24 18. A B 24 18 BRADFORD PATROL
07:50:48.653 --> 07:50:51.122
BOGUE. JOE BUCK NONVOTING
07:50:51.189 --> 07:50:52.991
KAMLAGER SKINNER. SKINNER. I
07:50:53.058 --> 07:50:56.962
WIENER. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL LEAVE
07:50:57.028 --> 07:50:57.996
THE ROLE OPEN. PERHAPS SOME
07:50:58.063 --> 07:51:00.699
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. MR KARA.
07:51:00.765 --> 07:51:01.900
WHO'S OUR NEXT ON 30? WE HAVE
07:51:01.967 --> 07:51:05.904
ANOTHER ARTHUR. MR SIGNING L
07:51:05.971 --> 07:51:24.889
PRETTY.
07:52:15.040 --> 07:52:31.289
KIND OF SUBJECT.
07:57:01.693 --> 07:57:03.861
RIGHT CAN WE BRING THIS PLACE
07:57:03.928 --> 07:57:05.330
BACK TO ORDER, YOU KNOW, AND PUT
07:57:05.396 --> 07:57:06.431
THE FRIED CHICKEN AWAY, YOU
07:57:06.497 --> 07:57:10.201
KNOW, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE
07:57:10.268 --> 07:57:12.570
HAVE MR SANTIAGO. HE HAS TWO
07:57:12.637 --> 07:57:15.640
MEASURES. SHE HAS 26 29 28 70.
07:57:15.707 --> 07:57:18.042
YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY,
07:57:18.109 --> 07:57:19.077
MR SANTIAGO. THE CHAIR.
07:57:19.143 --> 07:57:20.144
APPRECIATE BREVITY AT THIS TIME.
07:57:20.211 --> 07:57:23.548
YES, WE DO. I DON'T WANT TO
07:57:23.614 --> 07:57:24.816
OFFEND THE CHAIR. IF IT WAS
07:57:24.882 --> 07:57:25.950
LIKE, ANYWAY, I WOULD SAY
07:57:26.017 --> 07:57:28.052
SOMETHING LIKE 26 29. WE RECALL
07:57:28.119 --> 07:57:29.020
JUVENILE COURT JUDGES TO GIVE
07:57:29.087 --> 07:57:31.189
GREAT WEIGHT. TWO FACTORS TO
07:57:31.255 --> 07:57:32.190
JUVENILE SUCCESS. COMPLETION OF
07:57:32.256 --> 07:57:33.224
PROBATION, MENTAL ILLNESS. OR
07:57:33.291 --> 07:57:33.958
CHILDHOOD TRAUMA DRAMA WHEN
07:57:34.025 --> 07:57:34.926
DECIDING TO DISMISS THE
07:57:34.993 --> 07:57:39.764
PETITION. UH IN THE INTEREST OF
07:57:39.831 --> 07:57:41.265
BREVITY. I HAVE TWO WITNESSES
07:57:41.332 --> 07:57:44.102
THAT I'M ALSO GOING TO ASK TO BE
07:57:44.168 --> 07:57:44.535
BRIEFED MR CHAIRMAN,
07:57:44.602 --> 07:57:46.704
RESPECTIVELY. ASTRONAUT VOTE.
07:57:46.771 --> 07:57:52.176
OKAY, BUT ANYWAY. SORRY READY.
07:57:52.243 --> 07:57:54.278
GO RIGHT AHEAD. FIRST WITNESS.
07:57:54.345 --> 07:57:57.248
WE HAVE RON RAISE. GOOD EVENING
07:57:57.315 --> 07:57:59.384
. MY NAME IS RON RAISE SOME
07:57:59.450 --> 07:58:01.185
TESTS ON BEHALF OF THE PACIFIC
07:58:01.252 --> 07:58:02.653
JUVENILE DEFENDER CENTER. THE
07:58:02.720 --> 07:58:05.556
COSPONSOR OF A B 26 29 WITH THE
07:58:05.623 --> 07:58:06.891
LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
07:58:06.958 --> 07:58:08.760
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ANTI
07:58:08.826 --> 07:58:09.794
RECIDIVISM COALITION AND FRESH
07:58:09.861 --> 07:58:12.864
LIFELINES FOR YOUTH. THIS BROAD
07:58:12.930 --> 07:58:15.033
SPONGE. THIS BROAD SPONSORED
07:58:15.099 --> 07:58:16.734
PARTNERSHIP IS BASED ON A THEME
07:58:16.801 --> 07:58:18.302
THAT WILL BELIEVE HAS WHITE
07:58:18.369 --> 07:58:21.139
SUPPORT WIDE SUPPORT THAT YOUTH
07:58:21.205 --> 07:58:22.240
EXISTS. EXITING THE JUVENILE
07:58:22.306 --> 07:58:24.075
JUSTICE SYSTEM DESERVE A STRONG
07:58:24.142 --> 07:58:27.378
CHANCE. TO FULLY SEPARATE
07:58:27.445 --> 07:58:28.379
THEMSELVES FROM THE MANY
07:58:28.446 --> 07:58:29.380
COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCES OF, UM
07:58:29.447 --> 07:58:32.617
INVOLVEMENT. THIS BILL WILL
07:58:32.683 --> 07:58:34.752
ALLOW JUST IMPACT IMPACTED YOUTH
07:58:34.819 --> 07:58:36.154
TO FULLY ACCESS FUTURE
07:58:36.220 --> 07:58:37.355
OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT BEING HELD
07:58:37.422 --> 07:58:40.191
BACK BY MISTAKES OF THEIR PAST.
07:58:40.258 --> 07:58:42.026
UNFORTUNATELY UNDER THE CURRENT
07:58:42.093 --> 07:58:44.629
LAW, EVEN IF A YOUTH IS RECORDS
07:58:44.695 --> 07:58:45.963
HAVE BEEN SEALED. THERE ARE
07:58:46.030 --> 07:58:46.998
SEVERAL COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCES
07:58:47.065 --> 07:58:49.767
THAT REMAIN. JUVENILE
07:58:49.834 --> 07:58:51.302
ADJUDICATIONS MAY HARM A
07:58:51.369 --> 07:58:53.371
NONCITIZEN CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
07:58:53.438 --> 07:58:54.872
TRYING TO ACHIEVE LAWFUL
07:58:54.939 --> 07:58:57.542
IMMIGRATION STATUS LIKE DACA
07:58:57.608 --> 07:58:58.776
JUVENILE ADJUDICATIONS ARE
07:58:58.843 --> 07:59:00.778
BARRIER TO ENTERING THE MILITARY
07:59:00.845 --> 07:59:01.245
AND OBTAINING FEDERAL
07:59:01.312 --> 07:59:03.848
EMPLOYMENT. YOUTH APPLYING TO
07:59:03.915 --> 07:59:05.750
JOBS AND OTHER STATES FACE
07:59:05.817 --> 07:59:07.251
BARRIER PICKLES. OTHER STATES
07:59:07.318 --> 07:59:09.187
MAY NOT FULLY RECOGNIZED
07:59:09.253 --> 07:59:11.756
CALIFORNIA RECORD CEILING MAYBE
07:59:11.823 --> 07:59:14.892
26 29 AMENDS 70 82 OF THE
07:59:14.959 --> 07:59:16.727
WELFARE AND INSTITUTION CODE,
07:59:16.794 --> 07:59:17.595
WHICH IS THE STATUTE THAT
07:59:17.662 --> 07:59:18.863
GOVERNS DISMISSAL OF JUVENILE
07:59:18.930 --> 07:59:22.266
PETITIONS. THIS BILL CREATES A
07:59:22.333 --> 07:59:23.868
GREAT WEIGHT STANDARD IN FAVOR
07:59:23.935 --> 07:59:25.703
OF DISMISSING THE PETITION AT
07:59:25.770 --> 07:59:26.938
THE TIME A YOUTH EXITS IF
07:59:27.004 --> 07:59:31.742
PROBATION UM, IF AT THAT TIME A
07:59:31.809 --> 07:59:32.710
YOUTH ACCESS PROBATION IF THE
07:59:32.777 --> 07:59:34.145
PERSON CAN PROVE THE EXISTENCE
07:59:34.212 --> 07:59:35.646
OF ONE OR MORE MITIGATING
07:59:35.713 --> 07:59:37.515
CIRCUMSTANCES, SOME OF THE
07:59:37.582 --> 07:59:38.549
MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT
07:59:38.616 --> 07:59:40.384
JUVENILE COURT WOULD CONSIDER
07:59:40.451 --> 07:59:42.820
ARE SATISFACTORY COMPLETION
07:59:42.887 --> 07:59:44.889
PROBATION REHABILITATION HAS
07:59:44.956 --> 07:59:46.491
BEEN ATTAINED DISMISSAL WOULD
07:59:46.557 --> 07:59:48.159
NOT ENDANGER PUBLIC SAFETY OR IF
07:59:48.226 --> 07:59:49.660
THERE ARE UNDERLYING OFFENSES
07:59:49.727 --> 07:59:51.562
CONNECTED TO MENTAL ILLNESS,
07:59:51.629 --> 07:59:52.563
PRIOR VICTIMIZATION OR CHILDHOOD
07:59:52.630 --> 07:59:56.134
TRAUMA. THE LAST TWO MITIGATING
07:59:56.200 --> 07:59:57.935
CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD HAVE THE
07:59:58.002 --> 08:00:00.238
SAME MEANING AS AS IN SENATE,
08:00:00.304 --> 08:00:02.073
BILL 81, WHICH THE LEGISLATOR
08:00:02.140 --> 08:00:04.642
ADOPTED JUST LAST YEAR. ANOTHER
08:00:04.709 --> 08:00:07.645
IMPORTANT ASPECT OF A B 26 29 IS
08:00:07.712 --> 08:00:08.946
THAT IT PROVIDES GUIDANCE TO
08:00:09.013 --> 08:00:10.715
JUDGES ABOUT HOW TO EXERCISE THE
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DISCRETION TO DISMISS A JUVENILE
08:00:12.817 --> 08:00:14.886
PETITION IN THE INTEREST OF
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JUSTICE, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE
08:00:16.420 --> 08:00:17.822
VERY PROFOUND DISPARITIES AND
08:00:17.889 --> 08:00:18.956
JUDICIAL DECISION MAKING THAT
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OCCUR FROM GETS THE JUDGE AND
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COUNTY TO COUNTY. WE HOPE THIS
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PRINCIPLE EARNED THIS COMMITTEE
08:00:25.196 --> 08:00:28.766
SUPPORT AND RESPECTFULLY. ASK
08:00:28.833 --> 08:00:30.668
FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU.
08:00:30.735 --> 08:00:31.903
THANK YOU, MR REYES. NEXT UP, WE
08:00:31.969 --> 08:00:35.907
HAVE EVELYN GONZALEZ. IN RESPECT
08:00:35.973 --> 08:00:38.075
OF EVERYBODY'S TIME. I TRY TO
08:00:38.142 --> 08:00:41.012
AIM PERFECTLY TIME. MY TESTIMONY
08:00:41.078 --> 08:00:42.647
. MY NAME IS EVELYN GONZALES.
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AND WITH FRESH LIFELINES PER
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YOUTH. I'M A FLY ALUMNI AND, UM,
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ALSO FOUNDING MEMBER. THE
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ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR SANTA CLARA
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COUNTY. I AM ALSO MOTHER TO TWO
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CHILDREN. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON
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THE WAY AS YOU CAN SEE, ON TOP
08:00:56.527 --> 08:00:58.262
OF THAT. I ALSO HAVE BEEN
08:00:58.329 --> 08:00:59.530
WORKING ON MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE
08:00:59.597 --> 08:01:02.800
IN POLITICAL SCIENCE SINCE 2016
08:01:02.867 --> 08:01:04.101
ALL WHILE BEING A SINGLE MOTHER
08:01:04.168 --> 08:01:06.504
AND WORKING PART TIME. IT HAS
08:01:06.571 --> 08:01:08.773
BEEN DIFFICULT JOURNEY. I WORKED
08:01:08.839 --> 08:01:11.342
REALLY HARD, SO I BELIEVE THAT I
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DESERVE TO HAVE A PROSPEROUS
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LIFE. LIKE THE REST OF MY
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CLASSMATES AT MY PRESTIGIOUS
08:01:16.047 --> 08:01:18.883
SCHOOL CENTER, CLARA UNIVERSITY.
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MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE JUVENILE
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SYSTEM BEGAN A DECADE AGO WHEN I
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WAS 15. I GOT CHARGED WITH
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MULTIPLE FELONIES, ROBBERY
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FELONIES. I DID I COMMIT THOSE
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FELONIES BECAUSE I WAS LEFT
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UNDER THE CARE OF MY ALCOHOLIC
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DRUG DRUG ADDICT FATHER. I HAD
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TO OBTAIN MY BASIC NEEDS LIKE
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FOOD, CLOTHING, HYGIENE, GIRLY
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TEENAGER STUFF. UM. AND SO I
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FLED FROM HIM BECAUSE MY LIFE
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WAS IN DANGER WITH HIM. IT WAS
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DEFINITELY ONE OF THE HARDEST
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PARTS OF MY LIFE. BUT AFTER
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COMING ACROSS, FLY, WELCOMING MY
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CHILD AND THRIVING IN COLLEGE,
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UM I SAW MY POTENTIAL TO SUCCEED
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AND BE GREAT. SO DESPITE BEING A
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SEPARATE TO COLLEGE, UM MY
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RECORD HAS PRESENTED BARRIERS
08:02:06.464 --> 08:02:08.032
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES,
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IT'S OBTAINING DACA WITHOUT DACA
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. IT CLOSED SO MANY GOOD PAYING
08:02:12.336 --> 08:02:13.704
JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND CAREER
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RELATED OPPORTUNITIES. AND MANY
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TIMES I HAD TO RESORT TO FOOD
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STAMPS AND CASH AID AND JUST
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LIFT OFF THAT. I STILL REMEMBER
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THE DAY I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL
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WAS AIMING TO BECOME A
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SUCCESSFUL MOTHER, UM, YOUNG
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MOTHER BECAUSE I WAS LIKE,
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REALLY YOUNG. BUT OF COURSE, THE
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BARRIERS BECAUSE OF MY RECORD,
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IT LED ME TO LOSE MOTIVATION AND
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WENT BACK TO HANGING AROUND WITH
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THE GANGSTERS. MAKING MYSELF
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VULNERABLE TO RECEIVE. IT IS, UM
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AND PUTTING MY SENSE LIFE IN
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DANGER. SO I'M LIKE TODAY, I'M
08:02:45.002 --> 08:02:46.304
SAYING IF WE REALLY WANT TO
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CHANGE COMMUNITIES MAKE THEM
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SAFER, PRODUCTIVE. WE OPEN DOORS
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INSTEAD OF CLOSING THEM TO
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PEOPLE LIKE ME. THERE'S A LOT OF
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YOUNG ADULTS READY TO GROW AND
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CHANGE, BUT THEIR RECORDS DO NOT
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ALLOW THEM TO. THERE'S WAY MORE
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TALENTED OF GIRLS AND BOYS AND
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MOTHERS OUT THERE THAT CANNOT
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ADVANCE BECAUSE THERE PASSES
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HELD AGAINST THEM. EVEN THOUGH
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THEY HAVE THEIR DEGREES. SO
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TODAY I AM NOTHING LIKE THE 15
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YEAR OLD GIRL THAT ONCE GOT IN
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TROUBLE. I ASKED YOU TO VOTE IN
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FAVOR OF A V 26 29 ENSURE THAT
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JUSTICE IS TRULY REPRESENTED IN
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THE TERM JUVENILE JUSTICE. THANK
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YOU. VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
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TESTIMONY. MR GONZALEZ. ALRIGHT
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NEXT WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF 26
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29. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DAN PHIL
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HAS ALREADY AFTER LOS ANGELES
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COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
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OFFICE HAVE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO
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LIST OF SUPPORT FOR SMART
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JUSTICE AND THE CALIFORNIA
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PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE. THANK YOU.
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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ELIJAH
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OR ANTIVIRUS CITIZEN COALITION.
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UM, THE STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
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BILL AND ALSO WANT TO SAVE FOR
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INITIATE JUSTICE. STRONG SUPPORT
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FOR THIS BILL. THANK YOU
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RELATIONSHIPS WITH T. O R. YES,
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SIR. GOOD EVENING, FRED WILLIAMS
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TELL YOU CAL ACTION IN SUPPORT.
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QUÊ. ANY OTHER WITNESSES HERE
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AND 1 12 IN SUPPORT OF THIS
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MEASURE. 26 29 HEARING AND
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MODERATELY, LET'S GO TO OUR
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PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
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ANYONE WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
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SUPPORT OF 26 29. THANK YOU, MR
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CHAIR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF
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YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B 26 29
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WINDFALL BY ZERO AT THIS TIME
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WHEN FOLLOWED BY A ZERO WILL
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BEGIN WITH LYING TO 98. PLEASE
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GO AHEAD. MR CHAIR AND SENATORS
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CLIFF KOSTA ON BEHALF OF THE
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JUVENILE COURT JUDGES OF
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CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS THE SECTION
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OF THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES,
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ASSOCIATION, AND SUPPORT THANK
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YOU. MY 2 86. YOU ARE ON A BIT.
08:04:58.436 --> 08:05:01.472
36 HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
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PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
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SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
08:05:07.445 --> 08:05:08.546
41 YOU ARE OPEN. PLEASE GO
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AHEAD. 41 HE'S A MUTE. JIM
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LINDBERG FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON
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LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
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SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
08:05:23.828 --> 08:05:28.632
THANK YOU LINE 2 52. DUTY AND
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DEAD LITTLE WITH CALIFORNIA'S
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FOR 60 AND JUSTICE AND SUPPORT.
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THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. AND
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WE'LL GET ONE MORE QUICK
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REMINDER IF YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE 26
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29 AT 10 AT THIS TIME AND LINE
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THREE TOOK 3 12, YOU ARE OPEN.
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GOOD EVENING, REBECA GONZALEZ.
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BUT THE NATIONALISTS, OC ATION
08:05:48.619 --> 08:05:50.521
AND SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
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CHAPTER AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
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MR CHAIR. WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THE
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QUÊ. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE
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EXHAUSTED THE QUÊ. OKAY WE
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EXHAUSTED IT. OKAY NOW WE'RE
08:06:02.099 --> 08:06:03.033
GOING TO AFFORD OPPOSITION TO
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SAME OPPORTUNITY THERE. ANY
08:06:04.435 --> 08:06:06.270
WITNESSES HERE IN 1 12 WISHING
08:06:06.337 --> 08:06:07.371
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION OF 26
08:06:07.438 --> 08:06:10.908
29. SEE NONE. MODERATOR. LET'S
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GO TO OUR PHONE LINES. THANK
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YOU, MR CHAIR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE
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TO TESTIFY AN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
08:06:18.415 --> 08:06:25.656
PRESS 10 ON A B 26 29. AND MR
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CHAIR. NOBODY IS QUEUING UP.
08:06:27.424 --> 08:06:28.859
OKAY WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
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COMMITTEE. AND THERE'S ARE THERE
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ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS AS IT
08:06:31.862 --> 08:06:37.468
RELATES TO 26 29. MM BILL BILL
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HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
08:06:39.303 --> 08:06:42.072
SKINNER, ASSEMBLYMAN SANTIAGO,
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
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YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND
08:06:45.342 --> 08:06:46.310
EVERYONE WHO TESTIFIED AND
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SPONSOR D A GASCON. RESPECTFULLY
08:06:49.446 --> 08:06:50.481
ASKED FOR AN I VOTE. THIS
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BUILDING HAS NO OPPOSITION, AND
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IN FACT, WE SUPPORTED BY THE
08:06:53.417 --> 08:06:55.419
JUVENILE, JUST JUVENILE COURT
08:06:55.486 --> 08:06:56.387
JUDGES OF CALIFORNIA WHO WOULD
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BE WHO WOULD BE ADJUDICATING
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OVER THIS? I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY
08:07:01.592 --> 08:07:03.027
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
08:07:03.093 --> 08:07:04.628
SKINNER. WE HAVE A DO PASS
08:07:04.695 --> 08:07:06.163
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROPRIATIONS
08:07:06.230 --> 08:07:07.298
COUNCIL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
08:07:07.364 --> 08:07:10.701
26 29. IT MIGHT JUST BE DO PASS,
08:07:10.768 --> 08:07:15.439
HUH? D<c.cyan>PASS RIGHT? PASTOR DO,</c>
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PASTOR. WHAT DO YOU DO? PASS THE
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APPROPRIATIONS? YEAH. I THINK
08:07:21.946 --> 08:07:23.347
IT'S JUST DO PASS. HOLD ON. LET
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ME APPROACH HERE. UM YEAH. I
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KNOW, BUT THAT JUST DOUBLE
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CHECKING Ó. ME. ME, DISTILL
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CHECK.
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IT IS NOT FISCAL. LET ME MAKE
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SURE THAT'S NOT THE ONE THEY
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ASKED FOR. NO IT'S JUST DO PAST
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. I GOTTA THINK SO. ALRIGHT IT'S
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JUST CORRECT. IT IS JUST TO PASS
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26 29 ALRIGHT, MAYBE 26 29
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BRADFORD BRADFORD. I CHOSE
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BOGUE. ROBO GUY KAMLAGER
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SKINNER. SICKEN OR HIGH WIENER.
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THREE VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROAD
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OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD
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ON NOW WE'RE MOVING TO YOUR
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SECOND ITEM, MR SANTIAGO A B 28
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70 IN THE INTEREST OF LIBERTY
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AND PROPERTY AGAIN, MR CHAIR.
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I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
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FOR THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS.
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
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GOOD SENATOR FROM OAKLAND FOR
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HER WORK ON THE IN THIS AREA IN
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THE PAST. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
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EXPAND THE GUN VIOLENCE
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RESTRAINING ORDERS TO INCLUDE
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FAMILY MEMBERS. THAT ARE LISTED
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IN THE ANALYSIS. CLASSMATES
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DATING PARTNERS INDIVIDUAL WITH
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WITH A CHILD IN COMMON, AND ALSO
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CLARIFY THE ROOMMATES COULD BE G
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V G BROS. I RESPECTFULLY WOULD
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ASK FOR MY VOTE, MR CHAIR. YOU
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HAVE ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE
08:08:48.866 --> 08:08:52.236
AMENDMENTS, OKAY? WE HAVE NO
08:08:52.302 --> 08:08:54.672
LEAD WITH. THIS ISN'T SUPPORT.
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IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN ROOM 1
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12 WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
08:08:58.475 --> 08:09:01.378
OF 28 70? SEEN MODERATOR. LET'S
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GO TO OUR PHONE LINES FOR
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WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OF 28 70.
08:09:07.317 --> 08:09:08.952
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE
08:09:09.019 --> 08:09:11.755
IN SUPPORT OF A B 28 70 PLEASE
08:09:11.822 --> 08:09:13.023
PRESS 10 THIS TIME ONE, FOLLOWED
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BY ZERO. MR CHAIR. NOBODY'S
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COMING UP. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT,
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LET'S GO TO THE OPPOSITION THEN
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AS THEIR WITNESSES AND
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OPPOSITION WE HAVE FREDERICK
08:09:29.339 --> 08:09:31.408
WILLIAMS AND WE HAVE DANIEL READ
08:09:31.475 --> 08:09:33.844
MR WILLIAMS GO RIGHT AHEAD. GOOD
08:09:33.911 --> 08:09:35.112
AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING CHAIR
08:09:35.179 --> 08:09:36.547
MEMBERS. FRED WILLIAMS. HULU
08:09:36.613 --> 08:09:37.648
COUNTERACTION, RESPECTFUL
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OPPOSITION FIRST. I WANT TO
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THANK THE MEMBER OF THE
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COMMITTEE STAFF FOR LISTENING TO
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OUR CONCERNS, AND EVEN IN A LOT
08:09:44.621 --> 08:09:45.689
OF THE AMENDMENTS, HOWEVER, WE
08:09:45.756 --> 08:09:47.825
STILL NEED TO BE IN A POSITION.
08:09:47.891 --> 08:09:48.659
ESTÁ YOU. CALIFORNIA UNDERSTANDS
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THE NEED FOR GUN CONTROL
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MEASURES IN THE NATION AND THE
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THIS BILL,
08:09:52.930 --> 08:09:53.764
HOWEVER, POSSESSES SOME CIVIL
08:09:53.831 --> 08:09:55.299
LIBERTIES CONCERNS IN THE
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EXPANSION OF THE GROUPS OF
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PEOPLE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO FILE
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FOR AN EXPERT, A RESTRAINING
08:09:58.902 --> 08:10:01.338
ORDER. AN EXPERT IN ORDER TO
08:10:01.405 --> 08:10:03.140
MEET THE PERSON SUBJECTED TO THE
08:10:03.207 --> 08:10:04.541
RESTRAINING ORDERS NOT INFORMED
08:10:04.608 --> 08:10:06.143
OF THE COURT PROCEEDING AND
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THEREFORE HAS NO OPPORTUNITY TO
08:10:07.311 --> 08:10:09.379
CONTEST THE ALLEGATIONS. THIS
08:10:09.446 --> 08:10:10.748
EXPANSION THE RIGHT TO SUCH
08:10:10.814 --> 08:10:12.382
CATTLE CATEGORIES. CLASSMATES
08:10:12.449 --> 08:10:13.851
ARE DATING PARTNER CREATES AN
08:10:13.917 --> 08:10:15.119
ALMOST LIMITLESS NUMBER OF
08:10:15.185 --> 08:10:16.854
PEOPLE THAT MAY BRING FORTH AN
08:10:16.920 --> 08:10:18.756
EX PARTY ORDER. SOME UNIVERSITY
08:10:18.822 --> 08:10:20.324
CLASSES CAN HAVE UPWARDS OF 700
08:10:20.390 --> 08:10:22.659
STUDENTS. IT IS UNCLEAR WHY
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SHARED PARTICIPATION IN A CLASS
08:10:23.827 --> 08:10:25.329
STANDING ALONE PROVIDES SOMEONE
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WITH THE ACCESS AND INTIMATE
08:10:26.730 --> 08:10:28.265
KNOWLEDGE OF ANOTHER TO PETITION
08:10:28.332 --> 08:10:29.933
FOR A GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING
08:10:30.000 --> 08:10:31.268
ORDER. IN ADDITION, DATING
08:10:31.335 --> 08:10:32.736
PARTNER IN THE BILL IS NOT
08:10:32.803 --> 08:10:34.772
DEFINED AS THE ABILITY READING A
08:10:34.838 --> 08:10:36.173
PERSON WHO ATTENDED A SINGLE
08:10:36.240 --> 08:10:37.341
DATE WITH THE SUBJECT IS NOW
08:10:37.407 --> 08:10:39.143
ELIGIBLE TO FILE FOR A GUN
08:10:39.209 --> 08:10:40.010
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER.
08:10:40.077 --> 08:10:40.611
DESPITE LIKELY NOT HAVING THE
08:10:40.677 --> 08:10:41.645
REQUISITE KNOWLEDGE AND
08:10:41.712 --> 08:10:42.646
EXPERIENCE TO MAKE SUCH
08:10:42.713 --> 08:10:44.715
DETERMINATION. ON THE BAIT BY
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EXPANDING THE CATEGORIES OF
08:10:46.550 --> 08:10:47.885
PEOPLE WHO CAN FILE FOR AN
08:10:47.951 --> 08:10:49.386
ORDER. THIS BILL CREATES HIGH
08:10:49.453 --> 08:10:50.621
POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE AND A FLOOD
08:10:50.687 --> 08:10:51.822
OF CLAIMS OVER SATURATING THE
08:10:51.889 --> 08:10:54.224
PROGRAM. BY SPENDING ON THE
08:10:54.291 --> 08:10:55.659
BASIS OF AN UNCORROBORATED
08:10:55.726 --> 08:10:56.693
ALLEGATION FROM A MEMBER OF
08:10:56.760 --> 08:10:58.695
THESE MANY BROAD CATEGORIES, A B
08:10:58.762 --> 08:11:01.698
2870 WOULD AUTHORIZE THE POLICE
08:11:01.765 --> 08:11:03.534
TO SHOW UP AT THE SUBJECTS DOOR
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EXPECTING TO ENCOUNTER SOMEONE
08:11:04.635 --> 08:11:06.637
BELIEVED TO BE ARMED AND
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POSSIBLY DANGER THIS DANGEROUS
08:11:08.205 --> 08:11:09.273
AND ORDERED THEM TO SURRENDER
08:11:09.339 --> 08:11:11.241
THEIR FIREARMS. AT MINIMUM, THIS
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PERSON WOULD BE SUBJECTED TO A
08:11:12.810 --> 08:11:15.045
TENSE CONFRONTATION WITH POLICE
08:11:15.112 --> 08:11:15.879
POSSIBLY HAVE THEIR HOME
08:11:15.946 --> 08:11:17.381
SEARCHED WITHOUT EVER BEING
08:11:17.447 --> 08:11:18.816
ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO THE
08:11:18.882 --> 08:11:20.584
ACCUSES ALLEGATIONS IS FOR THESE
08:11:20.651 --> 08:11:22.653
REASONS THAT WE BELIEVE THE USE
08:11:22.719 --> 08:11:23.821
OF THE GUN VISORS GENERAL ORDER
08:11:23.887 --> 08:11:25.889
SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IN A LIMITED
08:11:25.956 --> 08:11:27.090
, LIMITED AND FINALLY TAILORED
08:11:27.157 --> 08:11:27.991
CAPACITY, THEREFORE, VALUE OF
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CALIFORNIA. RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
08:11:30.327 --> 08:11:33.197
OR NO VOTE TODAY ON A B 2870.
08:11:33.263 --> 08:11:34.498
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DANIEL RE
08:11:34.565 --> 08:11:39.002
ON THE LINE. BUT YOU CHAIRMAN
08:11:39.069 --> 08:11:40.671
SENATORS WAS RICK TRAVIS,
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SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
08:11:42.706 --> 08:11:44.508
RIFLE ASSOCIATION GUNNERS, THE
08:11:44.575 --> 08:11:45.742
CALIFORNIA NATIONAL RIFLE
08:11:45.809 --> 08:11:48.045
ASSOCIATION. MR REID COULD BE
08:11:48.111 --> 08:11:50.080
HERE TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG
08:11:50.147 --> 08:11:51.148
OPPOSITION BUT SIMPLY BUILT 28
08:11:51.215 --> 08:11:54.651
70. ORGANIZATIONS CAN DEDICATED
08:11:54.718 --> 08:11:56.220
TO FOR OVER A DECADE OF
08:11:56.286 --> 08:11:56.854
PROVIDING INFORMATION TO FAITH
08:11:56.920 --> 08:11:58.355
BASED INSTITUTIONS, BUT KEPT
08:11:58.422 --> 08:11:59.389
THEM FROM VIOLENCE IS UNDER
08:11:59.456 --> 08:12:00.490
REPORTED BY THE MEDIA. WHO
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BROUGHT SURVIVORS. EDUCATORS,
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FIRST RESPONDERS OF ATTACKS ON
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BASED INSTITUTION TOGETHER WITH
08:12:05.529 --> 08:12:06.463
PEOPLE LEADERSHIP FROM ALL
08:12:06.530 --> 08:12:09.399
PAPER. MAYBE 27 YEARS. WE
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PRESENT THE LACK OF CLEAR
08:12:10.868 --> 08:12:12.469
DEFINITION OF THOSE WHO CAN AND
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CANNOT REPORT ON THIS EXPANSION
08:12:14.605 --> 08:12:16.073
REPORTING PARTIES TO THE CURRENT
08:12:16.139 --> 08:12:17.608
LAW UNDER PENAL CODE 1815
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TERABYTE ONE TIME. THERE ARE, UM
08:12:19.910 --> 08:12:22.746
1819 JOE UNDER SECTION G, FOR
08:12:22.813 --> 08:12:25.015
EXAMPLE OF FAITH LEADER IS A
08:12:25.082 --> 08:12:26.083
RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION THAT THE
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SUBJECT REGULARLY ATTEMPT BILL.
08:12:28.518 --> 08:12:29.887
IT'S EXTREMELY BROUGHT INTO
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INTERPRETATION AS TO BOTH THE
08:12:32.089 --> 08:12:33.490
DEFINITION, EXPENSIVE TIMES THAT
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EVEN IN MEDICAL SETTINGS BASED
08:12:35.759 --> 08:12:37.160
LEADERS DO NOT HAVE A CLEAR
08:12:37.227 --> 08:12:38.795
DEFINITION OF ISN'T ISN'T
08:12:38.862 --> 08:12:39.696
CONCERNED A LEADER WITHIN THE
08:12:39.763 --> 08:12:40.764
COMMUNITY OR WHAT CONSTITUTES
08:12:40.831 --> 08:12:44.401
REGULAR ATTENDANCE? AS WILLIAM
08:12:44.468 --> 08:12:46.336
STILL FILTERED, PROMINENT ISSUE
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FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FAITH
08:12:47.437 --> 08:12:50.307
BASED INSTITUTIONS. LIKE THE
08:12:50.374 --> 08:12:51.541
PREVIOUS PERSON, THERE ARE TWO
08:12:51.608 --> 08:12:52.809
OTHER DEFINITIONS ARE HIGHLY
08:12:52.876 --> 08:12:54.878
PROBABLE FOR ABUSE. GOT A
08:12:54.945 --> 08:12:57.281
CROSTINI PEOPLE WHO ATTEND CLASS
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SCREENING SPENDING 10 TO 50
08:12:58.916 --> 08:13:00.284
YEARS BEFORE THE FELLOW AND I'M
08:13:00.350 --> 08:13:01.785
NICE CLASSMATES. PEOPLE ATTEND
08:13:01.852 --> 08:13:02.719
CLASSES IN PARTS, ONLINE
08:13:02.786 --> 08:13:03.620
COMMUNITY CENTERS AND FEDERAL
08:13:03.687 --> 08:13:04.655
ALSO PRETTY TRYING TO
08:13:04.721 --> 08:13:07.324
CLASSMATES. THIS LACK OF
08:13:07.391 --> 08:13:08.759
DEFINITION OF THE ETERNAL MOST
08:13:08.825 --> 08:13:11.194
CERTAINLY BE. THE MULTIPLE LEGAL
08:13:11.261 --> 08:13:12.195
CHALLENGES IS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL,
08:13:12.262 --> 08:13:14.932
ABLE TO ABUSE. AND ALSO DR
08:13:14.998 --> 08:13:17.267
PERMISSION OF THE BABY PARTNER
08:13:17.334 --> 08:13:18.936
AND OUR SOCIETY, THE ISSUE OF
08:13:19.002 --> 08:13:20.904
WHO IS AND WHO ISN'T IN A
08:13:20.971 --> 08:13:22.172
DEALING RELATIONSHIP IS
08:13:22.239 --> 08:13:23.907
REPEATEDLY THE SUBJECT OF JOKES
08:13:23.974 --> 08:13:26.310
FROM SOCIAL MEDIA MEANS TO
08:13:26.376 --> 08:13:26.843
MOTION PICTURES. THERE'S A
08:13:26.910 --> 08:13:28.245
REASON FOR THIS. BECAUSE IT'S
08:13:28.312 --> 08:13:29.079
NOT CLEARLY DEFINED WITHIN
08:13:29.146 --> 08:13:31.882
SOCIETY. LAW FINDS TENANTS WILL
08:13:31.949 --> 08:13:32.983
FIND THEMSELVES BEING ACCUSED OF
08:13:33.050 --> 08:13:34.651
THE NUMBER OF ISSUES BY AN
08:13:34.718 --> 08:13:35.652
INDIVIDUAL WHO POSSESSES NO
08:13:35.719 --> 08:13:36.653
TANGIBLE KNOWLEDGE OF THE
08:13:36.720 --> 08:13:39.156
ACCUSED. HIS LACK OF DEFINITION
08:13:39.222 --> 08:13:40.724
ON THE RESULTS. LEGAL CHALLENGES
08:13:40.791 --> 08:13:42.359
COSTING THE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS
08:13:42.426 --> 08:13:43.827
OF DOLLARS. WE ARE FIRST AND
08:13:43.894 --> 08:13:45.495
FOREMOST IN ORGANIZATION HAS
08:13:45.562 --> 08:13:47.064
VERY MODEL FROM A TACIT CENTURY
08:13:47.130 --> 08:13:49.199
, ITS SAFETY EUROPEAN WILL
08:13:49.266 --> 08:13:50.567
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM
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LEGISLATION IN REDUCING CRIME
08:13:52.202 --> 08:13:52.836
AGAINST CRIMINALS OFF OUR
08:13:52.903 --> 08:13:55.138
STREETS AND COMMUNITIES, NOT THE
08:13:55.205 --> 08:13:56.473
FUNDING TERMS FOR THOSE INVOLVED
08:13:56.540 --> 08:13:58.108
IN GUN BINDS RESTRAINING ORDERS.
08:13:58.175 --> 08:13:59.543
NOT A STEP IN THE RIGHT
08:13:59.609 --> 08:14:01.111
DIRECTION, BUT THE FOREGOING
08:14:01.178 --> 08:14:02.379
REASONS TO CALIFORNIA RIFLE
08:14:02.446 --> 08:14:04.448
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
08:14:04.514 --> 08:14:05.582
THE NATIONAL RIGHT BOOK
08:14:05.649 --> 08:14:06.917
ASSOCIATION DEMONSTRATING
08:14:06.984 --> 08:14:11.621
OPPOSITION TV 28-7. THANK YOU.
08:14:11.688 --> 08:14:14.224
NOW LET'S MOVE TO ISSUING ONE IN
08:14:14.291 --> 08:14:15.659
HERE IN ROOM 12-1 12 THAT WANTS
08:14:15.726 --> 08:14:17.661
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. SHE
08:14:17.728 --> 08:14:20.197
NONE. MODERATOR LET'S GO TO THE
08:14:20.263 --> 08:14:21.398
PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES AND
08:14:21.465 --> 08:14:25.635
OPPOSITION OF 28 70. ME TO HIS
08:14:25.702 --> 08:14:27.871
CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION
08:14:27.938 --> 08:14:29.806
TO A B 28 70 CHAIR STATED,
08:14:29.873 --> 08:14:31.408
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
08:14:31.475 --> 08:14:33.944
ZERO AND WE WILL GO TO LINE 2
08:14:34.011 --> 08:14:39.049
59, YOU ARE OPEN. MM HMM. I
08:14:39.116 --> 08:14:40.384
THINK THEY TOOK THEMSELVES OUT.
08:14:40.450 --> 08:14:42.786
ACCUSED OR TRY THE NEXT 1 TO 59.
08:14:42.853 --> 08:14:44.488
WE'LL TRY YOU ONE MORE TIME. IT
08:14:44.554 --> 08:14:45.622
LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BACK. PLEASE
08:14:45.689 --> 08:14:51.028
GO AHEAD. OH, LINE 3 16, YOU ARE
08:14:51.094 --> 08:14:55.632
OPEN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS
08:14:55.699 --> 08:14:56.800
STEVE ROD. I'M A LIFE MEMBER OF
08:14:56.867 --> 08:14:58.869
THE NRA, A MEMBER OF THE CRP, A
08:14:58.935 --> 08:15:01.104
US NAVY VETERAN AND ON BEHALF OF
08:15:01.171 --> 08:15:02.739
OVER 400, LEGAL GUN OWNERS AND
08:15:02.806 --> 08:15:04.674
LAKE IN MENDOCINO COUNTY'S. WE
08:15:04.741 --> 08:15:06.243
STRONGLY URGED THE COMMITTEE TO
08:15:06.309 --> 08:15:08.078
OPPOSE A B 28 70. THANK YOU NEXT
08:15:08.145 --> 08:15:14.751
WITNESS. THANK YOU LINE TO 49.
08:15:14.818 --> 08:15:16.653
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CARLENE
08:15:16.720 --> 08:15:18.822
ELLIS. I'M A MEMBER OF THE
08:15:18.889 --> 08:15:19.523
CALIFORNIA RENTAL AND PISTOL
08:15:19.589 --> 08:15:21.158
ASSOCIATION. COMPETITIVE PISTOL
08:15:21.224 --> 08:15:23.260
SHOOTER. REMEMBER OF THE NRA, A
08:15:23.326 --> 08:15:25.462
END OF THE WELL ARMED WOMAN AND
08:15:25.529 --> 08:15:28.198
I STRONGLY OPPOSE A B 28 70.
08:15:28.265 --> 08:15:29.299
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
08:15:29.366 --> 08:15:31.701
WITNESS. BUYING 2 53, YOU ARE
08:15:31.768 --> 08:15:38.508
OPEN. OKAY? TO MY EYE ON YOU ARE
08:15:38.575 --> 08:15:43.246
GO AHEAD. YES MY NAME IS GARY
08:15:43.313 --> 08:15:45.715
THOMAS. I'M UH, SENATE AND
08:15:45.782 --> 08:15:47.617
SAMUEL TRIP. MY FAMILY'S BEEN IN
08:15:47.684 --> 08:15:49.653
CALIFORNIA SINCE 18 48 AND
08:15:49.719 --> 08:15:51.154
RESIDENTS AND WE'VE BEEN SENT
08:15:51.221 --> 08:15:52.556
ANDERSON'S 1999 STRONGLY OPPOSED
08:15:52.622 --> 08:15:56.493
THIS. BUILT AND I'M GONNA LIFE
08:15:56.560 --> 08:15:58.395
MEMBER OF THE N R A AND THE
08:15:58.462 --> 08:16:00.263
CALIFORNIA GRATEFUL PISTOL
08:16:00.330 --> 08:16:02.766
ASSOCIATION AND THE COWBOY
08:16:02.833 --> 08:16:03.800
ACTUALLY SHOOTING SOCIETY. THANK
08:16:03.867 --> 08:16:06.503
YOU. NEXT WITNESS. 2 59, PLEASE
08:16:06.570 --> 08:16:17.314
GO AHEAD. HOW TO 59, OR FOR SOME
08:16:17.380 --> 08:16:23.086
REASON, IT'S NOT LANE 3 17.
08:16:23.153 --> 08:16:27.157
BUYING THREE SECOND LIFE. YES
08:16:27.224 --> 08:16:29.259
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PAT
08:16:29.326 --> 08:16:30.961
HURTING. I'M A LIFE MEMBER OF
08:16:31.027 --> 08:16:32.262
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION
08:16:32.329 --> 08:16:33.897
LIFE MEMBER OF CALIFORNIA RIFLE
08:16:33.964 --> 08:16:35.365
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION AND THE
08:16:35.432 --> 08:16:38.068
CHAIRMAN OF THE TO HEMA COUNTY
08:16:38.135 --> 08:16:38.702
CHAPTER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIGHT
08:16:38.768 --> 08:16:40.036
PISTOL ASSOCIATION. RETIRED
08:16:40.103 --> 08:16:41.037
SERGEANT FROM THE CALIFORNIA
08:16:41.104 --> 08:16:43.039
HIGHWAY PATROL IN STRONG
08:16:43.106 --> 08:16:45.208
OPPOSITION TO A B 28 70. THANK
08:16:45.275 --> 08:16:48.879
YOU WITNESS. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO
08:16:48.945 --> 08:16:52.616
TO LINE 1 95. THE SECURITY TEAM.
08:16:52.682 --> 08:16:54.217
MCMAHON I'M THE CHAIR OF THE
08:16:54.284 --> 08:16:55.785
SOUTH SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
08:16:55.852 --> 08:16:57.053
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
08:16:57.120 --> 08:17:00.090
ASSOCIATION IN OUR MEMBER AND
08:17:00.157 --> 08:17:03.560
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU
08:17:03.627 --> 08:17:07.097
NEXT MEMBER. LINE 3 15, YOU ARE
08:17:07.164 --> 08:17:11.701
OPEN. MY NAME IS PAUL IT,
08:17:11.768 --> 08:17:13.170
STUDEBAKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
08:17:13.236 --> 08:17:14.838
. I AM A MEMBER ACCORDINGLY,
08:17:14.905 --> 08:17:17.073
RIFLE AND PISTOLS AS HE ATION,
08:17:17.140 --> 08:17:19.376
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION
08:17:19.442 --> 08:17:21.545
AND THE WELL ARMED WOMEN AND I
08:17:21.611 --> 08:17:22.512
STRONGLY OPPOSE MAYBE 28 70.
08:17:22.579 --> 08:17:25.515
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
08:17:25.582 --> 08:17:35.258
WITNESS. 3 13, YOU ARE OPEN.
08:17:35.325 --> 08:17:36.860
HELLO MY NAME IS MICHAEL LINE
08:17:36.927 --> 08:17:37.794
BACK AND REMEMBER OF THE
08:17:37.861 --> 08:17:38.595
CALIFORNIA RIFLE PISTOL
08:17:38.662 --> 08:17:40.497
ASSOCIATION AND LIVE IN
08:17:40.564 --> 08:17:43.099
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. AND I OPPOSED
08:17:43.166 --> 08:17:43.700
THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
08:17:43.767 --> 08:17:51.141
NEXT CALLER. 3 18, YOU ARE OPEN.
08:17:51.208 --> 08:17:53.610
GOOD EVENING, SENATOR. MY NAME
08:17:53.677 --> 08:17:55.145
IS MIKE ELLIOTT FROM VENTURA
08:17:55.212 --> 08:17:58.648
COUNTY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU
08:17:58.715 --> 08:17:59.616
FOR WORKING LATE INTO THE
08:17:59.683 --> 08:18:02.052
EVENING. I'M A MEMBER OF THE NRA
08:18:02.118 --> 08:18:04.254
C R P A AND THE VENTURA COUNTY
08:18:04.321 --> 08:18:07.657
GUN OWNERS GROUP. AND I STRONGLY
08:18:07.724 --> 08:18:09.993
OPPOSE A B 2870. THANK YOU.
08:18:10.060 --> 08:18:12.963
THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER. 3 19,
08:18:13.029 --> 08:18:18.501
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
08:18:18.568 --> 08:18:20.770
. MY NAME IS GARY LUNDBERG. I AM
08:18:20.837 --> 08:18:22.772
A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN OF VENTURA
08:18:22.839 --> 08:18:25.609
COUNTY. I JUST FIND THIS BILL
08:18:25.675 --> 08:18:29.312
VERY OFFENSIVE. UH SO I
08:18:29.379 --> 08:18:33.416
THEREFORE OPPOSE IS STILL 2870.
08:18:33.483 --> 08:18:34.584
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK
08:18:34.651 --> 08:18:36.753
YOU. COORDINATES. BUYING 3 20,
08:18:36.820 --> 08:18:40.924
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
08:18:40.991 --> 08:18:44.261
JAMES O'BRIEN. I'M A NATIVE AND
08:18:44.327 --> 08:18:46.296
LIFELONG CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
08:18:46.363 --> 08:18:47.797
MEMBER OF THE NRA MEMBER OF THE
08:18:47.864 --> 08:18:52.168
C R PA. AND I AM STRONGLY
08:18:52.235 --> 08:18:54.237
OPPOSED TO A B 28-7. THANK YOU.
08:18:54.304 --> 08:19:02.012
THANK YOU. 3 21, YOU ARE OPEN.
08:19:02.078 --> 08:19:03.613
THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME
08:19:03.680 --> 08:19:04.614
IS MIKE BARRANCO. I'M CALLING
08:19:04.681 --> 08:19:06.583
FROM IRVINE, REMEMBER OF THE
08:19:06.650 --> 08:19:07.517
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
08:19:07.584 --> 08:19:08.885
ASSOCIATION AND AS AN ADVOCATE
08:19:08.952 --> 08:19:10.720
AND PROPONENT OF CIVIL RIGHTS BY
08:19:10.787 --> 08:19:12.722
OPPOSED A B 28 70 THANK YOU.
08:19:12.789 --> 08:19:16.993
THANK YOU. 93 22, PLEASE GO
08:19:17.060 --> 08:19:21.364
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS
08:19:21.431 --> 08:19:23.400
ALICE MCKENZIE OF SACRAMENTO
08:19:23.466 --> 08:19:25.535
SPORT SHOOTER MEMBER OF C, R P,
08:19:25.602 --> 08:19:27.804
A AND WELL ARMED WOMEN AND I
08:19:27.871 --> 08:19:28.972
STRONGLY OPPOSED A B 28 70.
08:19:29.039 --> 08:19:32.842
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 3 24,
08:19:32.909 --> 08:19:44.387
PLEASE GO AHEAD. 2 24. YES. GO
08:19:44.454 --> 08:19:50.727
AHEAD. MY NAME IS DOING HIM.
08:19:50.794 --> 08:19:52.829
SECOND COUNTY WASN'T TOO
08:19:52.896 --> 08:19:53.496
GRANDFATHER OF TWO AND I'M
08:19:53.563 --> 08:20:02.739
OPPOSING 2070. 93 25, YOU ARE
08:20:02.806 --> 08:20:07.677
OPEN. FEELING MY NAME IS PAUL
08:20:07.744 --> 08:20:08.712
KATZ, RESIDENT OF INTERACT
08:20:08.778 --> 08:20:11.715
COUNTY, FATHER OF THREE AND
08:20:11.781 --> 08:20:13.316
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
08:20:13.383 --> 08:20:14.718
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION, AND I
08:20:14.784 --> 08:20:16.519
STRONGLY OPPOSED IN 28 70. THANK
08:20:16.586 --> 08:20:25.762
YOU. 3 26, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
08:20:25.829 --> 08:20:27.330
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR
08:20:27.397 --> 08:20:28.898
LETTING ME MAKE THIS CALL. MY
08:20:28.965 --> 08:20:30.300
NAME IS DARREN VOGEL. I'M A
08:20:30.367 --> 08:20:32.402
RESIDENT OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY. A
08:20:32.469 --> 08:20:33.970
MEMBER OF THE CRP A AND THE
08:20:34.037 --> 08:20:35.572
NATIONAL AIR FORCE ASSOCIATION
08:20:35.638 --> 08:20:37.040
AND I'M CALLING TO OUR JOB
08:20:37.107 --> 08:20:38.875
POSITION DAY BE 28 70. THANKS
08:20:38.942 --> 08:20:40.910
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU NEXT
08:20:40.977 --> 08:20:44.647
WITNESS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
08:20:44.714 --> 08:20:46.816
WILL GO TO LANGUAGE 29 A
08:20:46.883 --> 08:20:48.551
REMINDER, PLEASE. PRESS 10
08:20:48.618 --> 08:20:49.953
EXPERIENCE SUPPORT OF A IN
08:20:50.019 --> 08:20:51.621
OPPOSITION TO A B 28 70. IT'S
08:20:51.688 --> 08:20:57.127
GONNA HAVE 3 29. GOOD EVENING
08:20:57.193 --> 08:20:59.396
VOTES. MY NAME IS RON LANDER AND
08:20:59.462 --> 08:21:00.764
CHAIRMAN OF THE RIVERSIDE
08:21:00.830 --> 08:21:03.166
CHAPTER OF THE CRP, A ALSO
08:21:03.233 --> 08:21:04.901
RETIRED FROM THE LATE LASAGNAS
08:21:04.968 --> 08:21:05.435
COUNTY SHERIFF'S PERMANENT
08:21:05.502 --> 08:21:08.872
SUPPORT. RICK TRAVIS'S STRONG
08:21:08.938 --> 08:21:11.341
STATEMENT AND OPPOSED 28-7 TA BE
08:21:11.408 --> 08:21:12.442
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
08:21:12.509 --> 08:21:17.447
WITNESS. MR CHAIR. WE HAVE GOT
08:21:17.514 --> 08:21:18.681
THROUGH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
08:21:18.748 --> 08:21:23.653
TESTIFYING. SORRY. THERE'S NO
08:21:23.720 --> 08:21:24.654
THERE ARE NO, NO MORE
08:21:24.721 --> 08:21:25.989
PARTICIPANTS QUEUED UP AT THIS
08:21:26.055 --> 08:21:27.690
TIME. GOT IT. THANK YOU. I'LL
08:21:27.757 --> 08:21:28.825
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
08:21:28.892 --> 08:21:30.560
THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
08:21:30.627 --> 08:21:32.395
AS IT RELATES TO THIS MEASURE
08:21:32.462 --> 08:21:36.433
TWENTIES UH 2028 70. I HAVE JUST
08:21:36.499 --> 08:21:42.705
CENTER ULTRABOOK. UM. SO WITH
08:21:42.772 --> 08:21:44.174
THE EXPANDED DEFINITION OF A
08:21:44.240 --> 08:21:46.075
DATING PARTNER UNDER THIS BILL,
08:21:46.142 --> 08:21:47.644
HOW DOES THIS BILL CODIFIED
08:21:47.710 --> 08:21:48.878
DATING PARTNER IN PLACE THE
08:21:48.945 --> 08:21:50.079
NECESSARY PROTECTIONS AROUND THE
08:21:50.146 --> 08:21:53.249
TERM? YEAH WELL, NUMBER ONE.
08:21:53.316 --> 08:21:55.418
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE
08:21:55.485 --> 08:21:57.821
STATUES OF THE EXPERT TIED GVR
08:21:57.887 --> 08:22:00.123
OR THE CURRENT GVR Ó OR
08:22:00.190 --> 08:22:02.025
EXTENDED ONE WHEN YOU FALL AFTER
08:22:02.091 --> 08:22:04.761
THE FIRST ONE. BECAUSE IT'S
08:22:04.828 --> 08:22:06.896
STILL WOULD BE A MISTER MEANER
08:22:06.963 --> 08:22:08.231
IF YOU IF YOU KNOW, ONLY ARE
08:22:08.298 --> 08:22:12.168
FRAUDULENT, UM AH, IF FOLLOWING
08:22:12.235 --> 08:22:13.303
ONE OF THESE SO THOSE
08:22:13.369 --> 08:22:15.371
PROTECTIONS ARE STILL IN PLACE.
08:22:15.438 --> 08:22:17.574
OKAY AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION
08:22:17.640 --> 08:22:20.109
THAT WE HAVE HERE IS WITH THE
08:22:20.176 --> 08:22:22.579
EXPANSION OF CLASSES OF PEOPLE
08:22:22.645 --> 08:22:24.647
WHO MAY PETITION FOR A DVR Ó.
08:22:24.714 --> 08:22:26.416
UM THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR
08:22:26.483 --> 08:22:27.851
NEFARIOUS ACTORS SUCH AS
08:22:27.917 --> 08:22:29.385
SLIGHTED ROOMMATE OR DATING
08:22:29.452 --> 08:22:31.321
PARTNER TO WRONGFULLY FILE THE
08:22:31.387 --> 08:22:33.656
NEXT PARTY AGAINST A PERSON. AND
08:22:33.723 --> 08:22:35.859
WHAT IS THE RECOURSE FOR THIS?
08:22:35.925 --> 08:22:37.427
AND IS THERE A WAVE FOR THE
08:22:37.494 --> 08:22:39.429
SUBJECT OF A GVR Ó TO OBTAIN
08:22:39.496 --> 08:22:41.397
HIS OR HER GANZ BEFORE THE 21
08:22:41.464 --> 08:22:43.299
DAY PERIOD? WELL I MEAN,
08:22:43.366 --> 08:22:45.134
ATTAINING THE GUNS THAT WOULD BE
08:22:45.201 --> 08:22:45.768
COMPLETELY IT'S GOING TO BE UP
08:22:45.835 --> 08:22:48.071
TO THE COURTS, BUT BUT WHAT'S
08:22:48.137 --> 08:22:49.038
IMPORTANT, UNDERSTAND IT, AND
08:22:49.105 --> 08:22:50.440
THEN I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN WITH
08:22:50.507 --> 08:22:52.242
THE BEGINNING PARAPHRASE FOR THE
08:22:52.308 --> 08:22:54.711
COMMITTEE THAT EXISTING EXISTING
08:22:54.777 --> 08:22:55.712
LAW STILL PROVIDES EVERY PERSON
08:22:55.778 --> 08:22:57.280
WHO FOLLOWS A PETITION FOR GVR
08:22:57.347 --> 08:22:59.215
OR GVR, ISSUED AFTER THE NOTICE
08:22:59.282 --> 08:23:00.583
AND HEARING AND KNOWINGLY KNOWS
08:23:00.650 --> 08:23:01.451
THAT THE INFORMATION THE
08:23:01.518 --> 08:23:04.487
PETITION MIGHT BE FALSE WITH THE
08:23:04.554 --> 08:23:07.156
INTENT TO HARASS IT WOULD AND IT
08:23:07.223 --> 08:23:08.191
WOULD BE GUILTY FOR A
08:23:08.258 --> 08:23:10.226
MISDEMEANOR. THOSE PROTECTIONS
08:23:10.293 --> 08:23:12.161
STILL PLACE. WE DON'T WANT TO
08:23:12.228 --> 08:23:12.795
TAKE THOSE AWAY. ABSOLUTELY IF
08:23:12.862 --> 08:23:14.264
ANYBODY'S GOING TO FOLLOW HIM,
08:23:14.330 --> 08:23:16.032
FRAUDULENTLY OR FILE OR FILE
08:23:16.099 --> 08:23:17.901
WITH THE ATTEMPT TO HARASS, UH,
08:23:17.967 --> 08:23:19.102
THOSE THOSE STATUTES WOULD STILL
08:23:19.168 --> 08:23:23.506
BE IN PLACE. THANK YOU. THANK
08:23:23.573 --> 08:23:25.208
YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M
08:23:25.275 --> 08:23:26.376
GRATEFUL FOR THAT. THANK YOU,
08:23:26.442 --> 08:23:31.214
SENATOR SKINNER. I THINK YOU
08:23:31.281 --> 08:23:34.250
JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION. BUT
08:23:34.317 --> 08:23:35.318
EVEN THOUGH UNDER THE EXPERT EYE
08:23:35.385 --> 08:23:43.126
PART THE PERSON WHO. YOUR
08:23:43.192 --> 08:23:45.728
EXPANDED PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO
08:23:45.795 --> 08:23:48.264
REQUEST THE DIVA UNDER THEY
08:23:48.331 --> 08:23:50.166
WOULD. STILL IT WOULD STILL BE A
08:23:50.233 --> 08:23:53.336
TEMPORARY THREE DAY BIARO.
08:23:53.403 --> 08:23:55.838
CORRECT WELL, YEAH, WELL, WE
08:23:55.905 --> 08:23:57.840
WOULDN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE
08:23:57.907 --> 08:23:59.008
EXISTING WE WOULD JUST ADD THESE
08:23:59.075 --> 08:24:01.678
PEOPLE TO IT. UM AND I ALSO WANT
08:24:01.744 --> 08:24:03.980
TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
08:24:04.047 --> 08:24:05.548
ON THIS IN THE PAST ARE INTENDED
08:24:05.615 --> 08:24:07.417
NOT TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT, AND I
08:24:07.483 --> 08:24:08.484
DON'T THINK IT'S INTRODUCED THE
08:24:08.551 --> 08:24:09.786
VERY FIRST BILL THAT IN THE
08:24:09.852 --> 08:24:11.487
STATE AND ALSO IN THE COUNTRY,
08:24:11.554 --> 08:24:13.056
YOU KNOW THAT I'M VERY WELL
08:24:13.122 --> 08:24:14.457
AWARE OF, UH, OUR INTENT IS NOT
08:24:14.524 --> 08:24:17.226
TO CHANGE ANY OF THOSE. JUST ADD
08:24:17.293 --> 08:24:18.227
THESE WITHIN WITHIN, SAID
08:24:18.294 --> 08:24:19.262
PERIMETERS THAT HAVE ALREADY
08:24:19.329 --> 08:24:22.365
BEEN SET. OKAY BECAUSE NOT ALL T
08:24:22.432 --> 08:24:24.434
BROS OR EXPERTISE. SO THERE IS A
08:24:24.500 --> 08:24:27.070
BIT OF AN EXPANSION HERE AND BUT
08:24:27.136 --> 08:24:29.339
AS LONG AS THE BE COMFORTABLE AS
08:24:29.405 --> 08:24:32.241
LONG AS THE THERE'S START
08:24:32.308 --> 08:24:37.447
ABILITY. FOR PERSON RECEIVES IT
08:24:37.513 --> 08:24:39.482
TO CHALLENGE THE ORDER, WHICH I
08:24:39.549 --> 08:24:41.284
THINK IS STILL THE CASE UNDER
08:24:41.351 --> 08:24:42.352
THE BILL. THERE'S NO CHANGE ON
08:24:42.418 --> 08:24:54.263
THAT GREAT GREAT. RIGHT? RIGHT?
08:24:54.330 --> 08:24:57.000
OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. WITH THAT I'D
08:24:57.066 --> 08:25:01.137
MOVE THE BILL. CARE. WE'RE
08:25:01.204 --> 08:25:04.540
MOTION BY SENATOR SKINNER. MR
08:25:04.607 --> 08:25:06.275
SANTIAGO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
08:25:06.342 --> 08:25:10.013
CLOSE MY VOTE, OKAY. WE HAVE A
08:25:10.079 --> 08:25:12.482
DO PASS AS A MENDED. T<c.cyan></c>
08:25:12.548 --> 08:25:17.520
APPROPRIATIONS. COUNCIL. PLEASE
08:25:17.587 --> 08:25:21.991
CALL THE ROLL ON 28 70. 28 70
08:25:22.058 --> 08:25:23.760
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYATOLLAH
08:25:23.826 --> 08:25:27.130
BOGUE, HOBOKEN. NO KAMLAGER.
08:25:27.196 --> 08:25:28.264
SKINNER SKINNER, I WIENER.
08:25:28.331 --> 08:25:35.705
RIGHT? THAT MEASURE HAS TWO
08:25:35.772 --> 08:25:37.373
VOTES WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
08:25:37.440 --> 08:25:38.875
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. AND THEN WE
08:25:38.941 --> 08:25:40.410
HAVE MEMBERS COMING BACK TO THE
08:25:40.476 --> 08:25:43.046
COMMITTEE WILL LOOK TO CALL ON
08:25:43.112 --> 08:25:44.113
ALL OUR OUTSTANDING ITEMS AT
08:25:44.180 --> 08:25:48.017
THIS TIME. COMMA. IS SHE STILL
08:25:48.084 --> 08:25:58.127
ON THE PHONE UP THERE? THERE IS
08:25:58.194 --> 08:25:59.328
COMMON IN THE HALLWAY ON THE
08:25:59.395 --> 08:26:07.370
PHONE. I'LL TEXT HER WHERE'D SHE
08:26:07.437 --> 08:26:12.375
GO? OUTSIDE TO MAKE A PHONE
08:26:12.442 --> 08:26:13.643
CALL. HE HAS TO BE SOMEWHERE
08:26:13.710 --> 08:26:14.644
AROUND. THEY'RE GOING TO TEXT
08:26:14.711 --> 08:26:22.485
HER. OKAY REALLY? UH I MEAN, YOU
08:26:22.552 --> 08:26:25.755
REALLY CARED ABOUT YOU. LIKE
08:26:25.822 --> 08:26:28.124
RIGHT NOW. I'M LIKE I KNOW YOU
08:26:28.191 --> 08:26:45.374
ARE A LONG TIME TOMORROW. YEAH.
08:27:30.453 --> 08:27:32.889
WE HAVE WE HAVE A FULL BODY
08:27:32.955 --> 08:27:35.024
RIGHT NOW. MEMBERS WERE GONNA
08:27:35.091 --> 08:27:37.160
LOOK TO CALL ON ALL AROUND
08:27:37.226 --> 08:27:39.495
STANDING ITEMS WE STARTED WITH.
08:27:39.562 --> 08:27:41.764
FOLLOWING SOMEONE OR DO YOU WANT
08:27:41.831 --> 08:27:42.899
TO START WITH THE CONSENT
08:27:42.965 --> 08:27:44.834
CALENDAR? I'LL DO CONSENT WHEN
08:27:44.901 --> 08:27:46.435
WE GET SO WE'LL START WITH FILE
08:27:46.502 --> 08:27:49.305
ON 1 TO 1 WAS PULLED ONE. I WILL
08:27:49.372 --> 08:27:53.142
THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE SO A
08:27:53.209 --> 08:27:57.213
B 557 MURATSUCHI. THE UM, VOTE
08:27:57.280 --> 08:28:04.153
IS 3 TO 0. A SHOW BOGUE. KOBO
08:28:04.220 --> 08:28:07.523
GUY WIENER WIENER, I 5 TO 05 TO
08:28:07.590 --> 08:28:13.863
ZERO. THAT'S 557. A B 6 46 LOW.
08:28:13.930 --> 08:28:16.999
THE VOTE IS, UM, CHAIRS VOTING.
08:28:17.066 --> 08:28:22.371
I VOTED 2 TO 00 BOGUE. ROBO GUY
08:28:22.438 --> 08:28:25.141
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER. AYE, WIENER
08:28:25.208 --> 08:28:30.746
WIENER I 5 TO 0. ABOUT 5 TO 0.
08:28:30.813 --> 08:28:32.582
VILLA PUTERA, MAYBE 9 31. IT DID
08:28:32.648 --> 08:28:39.222
NOT GET A MOTION YET. YOU'RE IN
08:28:39.288 --> 08:28:47.763
MOTION FOR A B 931. OKAY, UM SHE
08:28:47.830 --> 08:28:51.234
MOVED IN. DID SHE MOVE IT, AND
08:28:51.300 --> 08:28:56.372
SHE'S ASKING SHOULD SHE MOVE?
08:28:56.439 --> 08:28:59.275
ALRIGHT. MAYBE 9 31 BRADFORD.
08:28:59.342 --> 08:29:02.011
BREAD FOR NOT VOTINGA CO BOGUE
08:29:02.078 --> 08:29:06.215
KOBO GUY KAMLAGER. COME LUCK OR
08:29:06.282 --> 08:29:08.217
NOT VOTING. SKINNER SKINNER. NO
08:29:08.284 --> 08:29:09.986
WIENER WIENER. NO VOTE IS 1 TO
08:29:10.052 --> 08:29:16.192
2. YES. ONE OR TWO MEASURE
08:29:16.259 --> 08:29:21.030
FAILS. NEXT UP IS FOLLOWING HIM
08:29:21.097 --> 08:29:23.866
FIVE A. B 27 30 27 30. THE VOTE
08:29:23.933 --> 08:29:27.937
IS 4 TO 0 SKINNER. SKINNER I 5
08:29:28.004 --> 08:29:31.240
TO 0 MARRIAGES OUT 5 TO 0. NEXT
08:29:31.307 --> 08:29:33.509
UP IS FOLLOWING HIM. 69 69 60.
08:29:33.576 --> 08:29:37.713
THE VOTE IS 2 TO 1 WITH THE
08:29:37.780 --> 08:29:39.982
CHAIR VOTING I. SKINNER. AYE,
08:29:40.049 --> 08:29:43.486
SKINNER. I WIENER. YEAH, GETTING
08:29:43.552 --> 08:29:48.557
A B 9 60. WIENER I 4 TO 1 THAT
08:29:48.624 --> 08:29:57.099
MEASURES OUT AFFORDED. S<c.cyan>. A B</c>
08:29:57.166 --> 08:30:03.105
12 27. LEVIN. THE VOTE IS 1 TO
08:30:03.172 --> 08:30:08.344
1. BRADFORD. HI, BRADFORD. AYE.
08:30:08.411 --> 08:30:15.384
SKINNER. SORRY THIS 27 LEVIN,
08:30:15.451 --> 08:30:17.420
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SKINNER I
08:30:17.486 --> 08:30:20.256
WIENER WINNER. I 4 TO 1 MEASURES
08:30:20.323 --> 08:30:25.594
OUT 41. MADE IN 1917 LEVIN. THE
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VOTE IS 1 TO 1, BRADFORD. I
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OFFERED. I AM SKINNER SKINNER. I
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WIENER WIENER I THE VOTE IS 4 TO
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1 TO ONE. YOU'RE OUT. MAYBE 12
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42. THE VOTE IS 3 TO 0 KAMLAGER.
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KAMLAGER I 4 TO 00. YEAH I THINK
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YOU DID. WERE YOU HERE FOR ABOUT
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BAUER-KAHAN? YOU WEREN'T ALL
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RIGHT. SORRY. UM WIENER ARENA
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RISE. SO NOW THE VOTES 45 0.
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ZERO. I'M SORRY FOR DESSERT. THE
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CONSENT CALENDAR, THE FIRST ONE
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OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. A CHUA
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KAMLAGER COME LIKE HER. I WIENER
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WIENER. I 5 TO 0 CONSENT
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CALENDAR JOB, FATHER ZERO. UM
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THE NEXT ONES I'M CONSENT ALSO.
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SO UM, ITEM 12 13 14 RAMOS. THE
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VOTE IS. NO, NO. THE ONE RIGHT
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BEFORE ITEM. 11 IS SORRY. UM THE
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VOTE IS 2 TO 0 BRADFORD. ALRIGHT
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BRADFORD I SKINNER WIENER. FROM
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THERE. I 5 TO 0 MEASURES ABOUT
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50. THE NEXT ONE. A B 16. OH,
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EIGHT, UM. THE VOTE IS 1 TO 1.
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BRADFORD BRADFORD. I KAMLAGER.
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KAMLAGER AYE WIENER WINNER I THE
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VOTE IS 4 TO 1. OUT MEASURES OUT
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FOR THE ONE A B 16 62 GIBSON.
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THE VOTE IS 3 TO 0 KAMLAGER.
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KAMLAGER AYE, WIENER. WIENER I 5
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TO 0 MEASURES OUT 5 TO 0. 1924
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THE VOTE IS 321. UM WIENER
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WINNER I 4 TO 1 MEASURES OUT 41.
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ITEMS. 16 IS ON CONSENT. A B 17
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A B 16 37 COOPER. UM IT'S PASSED
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AS AMENDED. THE VOTE IS 2 TO 0
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PATROL, BOGUE. COOPER ITEM 17.
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FIXING THROUGH SEVEN. JOBURG. I
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KAMLAGER COME ALONG OR NOT
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VOTING WIENER. WIENER I 4 TO 0
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MEASURES OUT FOR 20. AT AN 18 IS
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ON CONSENT ON ITEM 19 A B 17 20
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HOLDEN THE VOTE IS 3 TO 0
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KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER AYE WIENER
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WINNER. I WAS OUT 5 TO 0. A B 17
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37 WHOLE HOLDEN. HE TOOK THE
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AMENDMENTSTO REMOVE MANDATED
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REPORTERS IN THE BACKGROUND
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CHECK. SO WHAT REMAINS IS THE UM
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, WORKING GROUP TO WORK OUT
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ISSUES. UM THE VOTE 3 TO 0
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KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER AYE WIENER
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WINNER. I 550. YES. I'M TRYING
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TO GO IN ORDER SO I DON'T GET
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LOST. I AM NUMBER 21 HOLDEN.
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MAYBE 15 25 15. THE VOTE IS 3 TO
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0. IT'S UM KAMLAGER AMENDED.
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KAMLAGER. AYE, WIENER. WIENER IF
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5 TO 00 MEASURES OF A B 26 30 TO
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HOLD IN THE VOTE IS 2 TO 0
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SKINNER. I, ER I WIENER. WINNER.
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I 42020. A B 26 44. THE VOTE IS
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2 TO 1. WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I
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SKINNER. BY SKINNER. I WIENER.
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WIENER. I 4 TO 1 OR THE ONE THAT
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MEASURES OUT. THE NEXT ITEM. 24
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IS ON CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER 25
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2000 GABRIEL. UM IT'S THE VOTE
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IS 2 TO 0 SKINNER. BY SKINNER. I
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WIENER WIENER. I 40 00 MEASURES
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OUT. A B 2043 JONES SAWYER. THE
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VOTE IS 20 WITH THE CHAIR VOTING
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I SKINNER. I ER I WIENER WINNER
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. I 4200 MEASURES OUT. MAYBE 23
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21 JONES SAWYER. THE VOTE IS 3
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TO 0 SKINNER. ER I WIENER
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WIENER. AYE. A B 21 6TH MEASURES
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OUT 405 TO 050. A B 21 67 KALRA.
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THE VOTE IS 2 TO 1 BRADFORD.
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ALRIGHT, BRADFORD. I WIENER.
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WIENER I 4 TO 1 TO ONE MEASURES
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UP. EVERY 24 18 CHOLERA. THE
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VOTE IS 2 TO 0 KAMLAGER.
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KAMLAGER AYE, WIENER. WIENER I
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42020 MEASURES UP. THE BABY
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23-14 THREE. DR WEBBER. THE VOTE
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IS 2 TO 0 SKINNER. BY SKINNER. I
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WIENER WIENER I VOTE IS FOR 200
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MEASURES THAT. 24 7 O'DONNELL.
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THE VOTE IS 2 TO 0 KAMLAGER.
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KAMLAGER AYE, SKINNER I WIENER
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WINNER. I 5 TO 0. 5 TO 0 ON 24 7
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24 750. MEASURES 25 47 NAZARIAN
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. THE VOTE IS 2 TO 0 KAMLAGER.
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BRADFORD VOTED AYE.
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GOOD QUESTION, POSSIBLY. 25 47.
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YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT CONFLICTS
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WITH.
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WHAT. IT'S POSSIBLE AND APPROACH
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. WE COULD EVEN DO SOME SORT OF
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AMENDMENT THAT SAYS IT SHOULD BE
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IN CONJUNCTION WITH WORK ON SB
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TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
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POTENTIALLY WE COULD LOOK AT
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LANGUAGE. OKAY? ALRIGHT A B
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OKAY. SKINNER. COURTESY, AYE.
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WIENER. OKAY 5200 MINISTERS. UM
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NEXT BILL IS ON CONSENT, SO
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WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 34 26 29
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SANTIAGO. KAMLAGER IT'S 3 TO 0
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KAMLAGER. COME LIKE RI WIENER
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WIENER EYES, SO IT'S 5 TO 050.
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MAYBE 28 70 SANTIAGO. THE VOTE
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IS 2 TO 1 CHAIR VOTING. I
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KAMLAGER. WIENER WINNER. AYE. SO
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32321. WHICH ONE WAS THAT 28 72.
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MEASURES ARE. YOU KNOW VOTED?
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AYE. UM. THE A B 26 82 GRAY. THE
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VOTE IS 3 TO 0 SKINNER SKINNER.
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I WIENER. WINNER I 5 TO 0
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MEASURES OUT 5 TO 0. UM MAYBE 27
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17 WAS ON CONSENT. MAYBE 27 26
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WAS PULLED. THE LACKEY BOWL WAS
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PULLED. A B 27 90 WEEKS. UM VOTE
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IS 1 TO 1 KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER AYE
08:39:25.868 --> 08:39:29.271
SKINNER. SKINNER I WIENER WINNER
08:39:29.338 --> 08:39:34.142
. I 29 61 IS ON CONSENT AND A B
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25 46 NASSIRIAN. THE VOTE IS 2
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TO 0. UM, WITH SENATOR KAMLAGER
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NOT VOTING SKINNER. SKIN OR NOT
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VOTING WIENER WIENER I. THE VOTE
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IS 3200 SURE. NO THANK YOU FOR
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ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
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PARTICIPATED IN THE PUBLIC
08:39:58.433 --> 08:40:00.769
TESTIMONY TODAY IF YOU WERE NOT
08:40:00.836 --> 08:40:03.038
ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY, PLEASE
08:40:03.105 --> 08:40:04.172
SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
08:40:04.239 --> 08:40:07.142
SUGGESTIONS AND WRITING. TO THE
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SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
08:40:09.211 --> 08:40:10.746
OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE. YOUR
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COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE
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IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE WANT TO
08:40:14.016 --> 08:40:15.784
INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY IN THE
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OFFICIAL HEARING RECORDS. THANK
08:40:17.219 --> 08:40:18.453
YOU AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
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PARTICIPATION. THANK TO EVERYONE
08:40:21.557 --> 08:40:22.758
, EVERYONE FOR YOUR
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PARTICIPATION IN COOPERATION,
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AND THIS INCLUDES THE AGENDA FOR
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THE SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY. TODAY,
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AND WE STAND ADJOURNED.