THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
INSURANCE WILL COME TO ORDER
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. AS WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE ONGOING
COVID 19 RISK. THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS TO BOTH
PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT. FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, THE
PARTICIPANT, TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE AND WILL BE
ANNOUNCED RIGHT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 8772268.
THE ACCESS CODE IS 30635. I WILL
MAINTAIN THE CRIME DURING THE
HEARING, AS IS CUSTOMARY AND ANY
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DISRUPTED MAY
BE REMOVED FROM THE REMOTE
MEETING SERVICE OR HAVE THEIR
CONNECTIONS MUTED. WE ARE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARING
HERE IN ROOM 2100. I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO BE
PRESENT SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM AND BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE
HAVE 10 BILLS TODAY. INCLUDING
FIVE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT. AS WE
DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM, WE WILL
BEGIN AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. I DO
NOT SEE MR REGGIE JOHN SAWYER
HERE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE
OF OUR MEMBERS THAT WILL BE
PRESENTING A BILL FOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY. WE WILL
BEGIN WITH A B 21 54 BY MR
COOLEY, WHO WILL BE PRESENTED BY
SENATOR GLASER. WITH US HERE
TODAY. MR GLASER, WHEN YOU'RE
READY, YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR. YES. THANK YOU. CAN
I BE HEARD? SO YES, I WILL
REITERATE. WE'RE DOING ITEM FIVE
A. B 21 54 FOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
COOLEY BEING PRESENTED IN HIS
ABSENCE BY SENATOR STEVE GLAZER.
YOU MAYBE. RUBIO GOOD AFTERNOON
. I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL 21 54, WHICH
STREAMLINES THE CALIFORNIA
INSURANCE GUARANTY ASSOCIATIONS
, ABILITY TO MAKE FUNDING
READILY ACCESSIBLE AND LESS
COSTLY. TO ACCESS THERE ARE
CURRENTLY TWO STATUTES THAT
ALLOW THE INSURANCE GUARANTEE
ASSOCIATION TO ISSUE BONDS. ONE
DEALS WITH NATURAL DISASTER
EVENTS. AND THE SECOND RELATES
TO WORKERS' COMPENSATION BONDS
THAT BECOME AVAILABLE WHEN
EXISTING FUNDS AND ASSESSMENTS
ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER
WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIMS.
MAYBE 21 54 STREAMLINES. BOTH
THE BOND PROVISIONS INTO ONE
STATUTE. AND ONE SET OF
PROCEDURES FOR THE INSURANCE
GUARANTEE ASSOCIATION TO FOLLOW
WAS TO MAKE THE PROCESS FOR THE
BOND ISSUANCE MORE EFFICIENT AND
ACCESSIBLE. ADDITIONALLY THERE
IS UNCERTAINTY IN THE CYGNUS
STATUTE PERTAINING TO THE NEW
MEMBER SURCHARGE AND HOW IT'S
CALCULATED. WHEN A COMPANY
BECOMES LICENSED TO WRITE
BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA. AND IT
WRITES A LINE OF BUSINESS WHERE
A SURCHARGE IS BEING APPLIED IN
ITS 1ST AND 2ND YEAR OF WRITING.
THAT COMPANY SHOULD COLLECT A
SURCHARGE, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS
NOT BEEN RECEIVED HAS NOT
RECEIVED AN ASSESSMENT FROM THE
GUARANTEED INSURANCE GUARANTEE
ASSOCIATION. THE SURCHARGE NEEDS
TO BE COLLECTED ANYWAY. TO AVOID
AND UNFAIR COMPETITION ISSUE.
MAYBE 21 54 PROVIDES A MECHANISM
TO COLLECT THE MISSING
SURCHARGES TO REESTABLISH THE
BALANCE BETWEEN NEW AND EXISTING
MEMBERS. CIGNA HAS IDENTIFIED
ISSUES WITH CYBERSECURITY
INSURANCE POLICIES, AS THE
BENEFITS PROVIDED UNDER SUCH
POLICIES ARE NOT ALWAYS
CONSIDERED INSURANCE. MAYBE 21
54 CLARIFIES THAT CYBERSECURITY
POLICIES. ARE COVERED CLAIMS AS
LONG AS CYGNUS. TOTAL LIABILITY
DOES NOT EXCEED A MILLION
DOLLARS OR THE POLICY LIMITS.
WHICHEVER IS LESS. FINALLY
RECENT AMENDMENTS REQUIRE CIGNA
CIGNA TO REPORT TO THE SENATE
AND ASSEMBLY INSURANCE
COMMITTEES WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE
REQUEST AND ANNUALLY THEREAFTER
WHEN IT REQUESTS THE ISSUANCE OF
BONDS. WHILE THE BANDS REMAIN
OUTSTANDING. BY ADDRESSING THESE
GAPS. AND CIGNA'S STATUTES. THIS
WILL ALLOW THE ASSOCIATION TO
QUICKLY RESPOND WHEN
CATASTROPHIC EVENTS RESULT IN
INSOLVENCIES AND CALIFORNIANS
SEEK RELIEF. MAYBE 21 54,
SUPPORTED BY SIGUR HAS HAD
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND RECEIVED
NO OPPOSITION AND NO NO VOTES.
JOINED BY THE DISTINGUISHED JOHN
NORWOOD TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
SIGA. THANK YOU BEFORE WE MOVE
FORWARD WITH OUR REGISTERED, UM,
WITNESS HERE. I JUST WANT TO
REMIND OUR SUPPORTERS HERE THAT
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR
IDENTIFIED WITNESSES. ANYBODY
ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK NEEDS TO
STATE THEIR NAME, AFFILIATION
AND POSITION. ON THE MEASURE. MR
NORWOOD, YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS, JOHN
NORWOOD ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA INSURANCE GUARANTEE
ASSOCIATION CENTER, GLASER DID A
FANTASTIC JOB OF EXPLAINING THE
BILL. IT IS NON CONTROVERSIAL,
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT,
I WOULD JUST URGE YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
WE WILL NOW HEAR ANY WITNESSES
HERE AND 2100 WISHING TO SPEAK
AND SUPPORT. SEEN NAN. WE WILL
NOW MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY. THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE LINE
MODERATOR, PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS. WE NEED TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT OF A B 21 54. THANK
YOU. IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A
B 21 54, PLEASE TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY AND PRESS ONE,
FOLLOWED BY 01 FELL BY ZERO.
MADAM CHAIR. NOBODY IS QUEUING
UP. THANK YOU FOR THAT. HAVING
HEARD FROM ALL SUPPORTERS, WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ANY
OPPOSITION WAITING TO SPEAK. UM. THE COMMITTEE SHOWS NO
IDENTIFIED OPPOSITION HERE IN
THE ROOM, BUT ANYBODY HERE
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
YOU MAY DO SO NOW. SEEN NAN. WE
WILL NOW MOVE TO WITNESSES. WE
NEED TO TESTIFY. THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
, POLICE PROMPT THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION OF A B 21
54. YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO A B 21 54, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO. AND
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. HAVING HEARD FROM ALL
SUPPORTERS AND OPPOSITION, WE
WILL NOW GO TO ANY MEMBERS
WISHING TO COMMENT ON THIS
MEASURE. S SEEN NONE. MR
GLAESER, YOU MAY CLOSE TO THE
COMMITTEE ON BEHALF OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY FOR
HEARING THIS BILL AND
APPRECIATED MY VOTE. THANK YOU.
AS WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. WE
WILL JUST BUT AT THIS ON HOLD,
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR GLASER. WE
WILL WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE
ESTABLISHED A QUORUM T. TO
CONTINUE. SPEAKER. I UNDERSTAND
THAT YOU WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING
THE NEXT BILL FOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY IN HIS
ABSENCE. THAT'S ITEMS SIX FOR
THOSE LISTENING ITEM SIX ÁP 25
68. YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE
READY. THANK YOU. CHAIR RUBIO. I
AM PLEASED TO PRESENT THIS BILL
25 68 ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLY
MEMBER COOLEY. IT CLARIFIES THAT
PROVIDING INSURANCE FOR
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITY IS
ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW. AS MANY
OF YOU KNOW, VOTERS APPROVED THE
USE OF CANNABIS FOR MEDICAL
PURPOSES IN 1996, AND THEN AGAIN
APPROVED THE USE OF ADULT USE OF
CANNABIS IN 2016. OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS, CALIFORNIA HAS
WORKED TO STAND UP, WELL
REGULATED CANNABIS MARKETPLACE.
THE ONE AREA WHERE COMMERCIAL
ACTIVITY HAS LAGGED,
UNFORTUNATELY, IS INSURANCE
COVERAGE. CANNABIS IS FEDERALLY
ILLEGAL, LONGSTANDING GUIDELINES
FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT
ALLOW FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS. TO
WORK WITH CANNABIS BUSINESSES,
PROVIDED THEY FOLLOW CERTAIN
EXTRA REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
ADDITIONALLY FEDERAL CASE LAW IN
GREEN EARTH WELLNESS CENTER
VERSUS ATTAIN SPECIALTY
INSURANCE COMPANY FROM 2016
ESTABLISHED FEDERAL
CLASSIFICATION OF CANNABIS IS
NOT RELEVANT. IN AN INSURANCE
PROVIDERS DETERMINATION TO WRITE
AN INSURANCE POLICY. I KNEW THAT
MY KAREN FERGUSON ACT SURE
YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT
STATES REGULATE THEIR OWN
INSURANCE MARKETPLACES, NOT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AS THE
COMMERCIAL MARKET HAS GROWN, SO
HAS THE NEED FOR INSURANCE FOR
CULTIVATORS, TESTING LABS AND
RETAIL. CURRENTLY ONLY EIGHT
ADMITTED INSURRS PROVIDE
INSURANCE FOR CANNABIS IN
CALIFORNIA. WHILE THERE ARE MANY
SURPLUS LINE INSURERS THAT
PROVIDE INSURANCE, THEY ARE NOT
REGULATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
INSURANCE AND BE MAYBE MORE
EXPENSIVE. AS A RESULT, THERE IS
A SHORTAGE AND PROVIDERS AND
COVERAGE IN THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS MARKETPLACE. IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT COMMERCIAL
CANNABIS BUSINESSES HAVE A BROAD
INSURANCE MARKETPLACE TO ACCESS
FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THEIR
BUSINESSES. MAYBE 25 68
CLARIFIES THAT WRITING INSURANCE
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS. DOES NOT
CONSTITUTE A CRIME SINCE
CANNABIS AS PART OF A LEGAL
REGULATED MARKET IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS BILL DOES NOT MANDATE THE
CREATION OF A PRODUCT AND ONLY
SEEKS TO CLARIFY, CLARIFY AND
EXISTING PRACTICE IN STATUTE TO
ENCOURAGE GREATER PARTICIPATION
IN THE MARKETPLACE. MAYBE 25 68
IS SUPPORTED BY THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE. HAS HAD
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND RECEIVED
NO OPPOSITION AND I'M JOINED
HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.
MICHAEL MARTINEZ, WHO IS WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THIS BILL.
THANK YOU, MR GLASER. WE WILL
NOW GO UM TO THE SPEAKERS AND
SUPPORT AS IDENTIFIED BY MR
MICHAEL MARTINEZ SAYS A REMINDER
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK
YOU. MAYBE AGAIN. THANK YOU,
MADAM. CHAIRMICHAEL AND MEMBERS
. MICHAEL MARTINEZ, SENIOR
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR HERE ON
BEHALF OF INSURANCE COMMISSIONER
RICARDO LARA AND THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE. HE
COMMISSIONER. LOT IS VERY PROUD
TO BE THE SPONSOR OF THIS
MEASURE AND GIVEN HIS LEADERSHIP
AS THE CHAIR OF THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF INSURANCE
COMMISSIONERS, CANNABIS
INSURANCE WORKING GROUP HE IS
COMMISSIONER. LOT OF PROUD TO
SPONSOR A B 25 68 BECAUSE WE
NEED TO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL
CANNABIS BUSINESSES LICENSED AND
OPERATING IN OUR STATE TODAY,
WITH MORE ADMITTED INSURANCE UP
COVERAGE OPTIONS THERE COVER ALL
LEGAL CANNABIS OPERATIONS FROM
SEED TO SALE. TO ENSURE THAT
THESE LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES CAN
CONTINUE TO FORCE IN CALIFORNIA
. WITH THAT SAID I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR MARTINEZ. NOW WE'D
LIKE TO INVITE ANYONE HERE IN
THIS ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT OF A B 25 68. YOU MAY DO
SO AT THIS TIME. SCENE 99. WE
WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY. THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
, PLEASE PROMPT THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT. IF YOU ARE
IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 68, PLEASE
TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND PRESS
ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO. WHEN TOLD
BY ZERO. MADAM CHAIR. NOBODY IS
QUEUING UP. THANK YOU, MODERATOR
. WE WILL NOW FOLLOW THE SAME
PROCEDURE FOR THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. THE
COMITTEE SHOWS NO OPPOSITION
REGISTERED WITNESS. WE WILL NOW
MOVE TO ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
OPPOSITION. SEEN AND WE WILL NOW
MOVE OVER TO THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY. THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
, POLICE PROMPT THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION OF A B 25
68. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
FOLLOWED BY ZERO OR BILL A B 25
68. AND NOBODY IS QUEUING UP AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MODERATOR
. NOW HAVING HEARD FROM ALL
SUPPORTERS AND OPPOSITION, ANY
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE
WISHING TO COMMENTS ON THE
MEASURE. SEEN IN MR GLASER. YOU
MAY CLOSE TO HALF OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
RESPECTFULLY, ASTRONAUT BOAT.
THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT TIME,
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE AS WE STILL DON'T
HAVE QUORUM. WE WILL NOW SEE
THAT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S REGGIE
JOHNSON IS IN THE ROOM. WE WILL
WELCOME HIM. TO PRESENT ON A B 3
71. AH ONCE AGAIN BY MR JOHN
SAWYER AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
PROCEED AS A SUBCOMMITTEE UNTIL
WE GET A QUORUM. YOU MAY BEGIN
WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON
AND MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO
START BY ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT AND THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE FOR THEIR
WORK WITH MY OFFICE ON THIS
IMPORTANT MEASURE. THESE
AMENDMENTS INCLUDE ONE CAPPING
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN $10,000 FOR
THE COST OF LIABILITY INSURANCE
FOR ACCIDENT VICTIMS TO
NARROWING PROPERTY DAMAGE TO
ONLY COVER DEVICES AND MOBILITY
AID. FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH
DISABILITIES AND THREE REQUIRING
DEPARTMENT OF ASSURANCE TO
CONDUCT THE STUDY TO ANALYZE THE
COVERAGE LIMITS AND PROVIDE
RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD
REQUIREMENTS NEED TO BE UPDATED.
THESE AMENDMENTS ADDRESS
INSURANCE COSTS CONCERNS BY
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE COST
OF IT. COVERAGE FOR ACCIDENT
VICTIMS, ALIGNING WITH INSURANCE
OTHER JURISDICTIONS. 83 71
EXTENDS EXISTING LIABILITY
PROTECTION TO PEDESTRIANS IF
THEY ARE INJURED BY AN
ELECTRONIC SCOOTER OR BIKE.
COLLECTIVELY E DEVICES REQUIRES
THE ADDITION OF BRAILLE AND
TACTILE SIGNATURE SIGNAGE TO THE
DEVICES. THIS ENSURES
PEDESTRIANS WHO ARE BLIND OR
HAVE VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS HAVE THE
CONTACT INFORMATION TO FILE AN
INJURY REPORT IF THEY EXPERIENCE
AN ACCIDENT. WHEN FIRST
APPROACHED BY THE BILL, SPONSORS
THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL OF BLIND
I IMMEDIATELY REACHED OUT TO MY
BROTHER, DR FRED JONES TO ASK
HIM ABOUT THIS. AND I RECALL
WHEN I GOT MARRIED AND I BROUGHT
HIM TO THE BATHROOM, I TURN ON
THE LIGHT FOR WHICH HE SAID, WHY
ARE YOU TURNING ON THE LIGHT?
I'M BLIND. I CAN'T SEE. IT MADE
ME REALIZE I NEEDED TO SEE THE
WORLD SOMETIMES BY CLOSING MY
EYES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S
LIKE TO BE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S
SHOES. IT WAS A GREAT LESSON TO
ME THAT HAS STAYED WITH ME ALL
THIS TIME. IT WAS. FROM THAT
MOMENT I FIRST REALIZED TO
REALLY UNDERSTAND ISSUES FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND. YOU CANNOT
ALWAYS HAVE YOUR EYES OPEN. THE
CURRENT ISSUE WE HAVE BEEN
FACING IS THAT EXISTING
LIABILITY PROTECTIONS ONLY COVER
USERS AND INJURED AS A RESULT OR
OPERATING DEVICES. THIS MEANS
PEDESTRIANS AND ACCIDENT
VICTIMS. INJURED BY THE DEVICES
ARE LEFT WITHOUT A METHOD TO
RECEIVE COVERAGE FOR INJURIES
CAUSED BY NO FATHER THEIR OWN.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY BURDENSOME TO
THOSE WHO ARE BLIND OR HAVE
VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS THAT THEY
RELY ON CLEAR WALKWAYS. THIS IS
A MATTER OF BOTH ACCESSIBILITY
AND EQUITY FOR ALL. 83 71
REMOVED THE BURDEN OF
RESPONSIBILITY AWAY FROM
ACCIDENT VICTIMS BY ENSURING
PEDESTRIANS, ESPECIALLY THOSE
WHO ARE BLIND. THE ALLUDED LEE
AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE
A METHOD FOR FIRING THE INJURY
REPORT AND BEING COMPENSATED,
DEFENDED BY OTHERS. IMPROPER USE
OF STORAGE OF E VEHICLES AND
DEVICES. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN
SOME CONCERN ABOUT INCLUDING
PEDAL BIKES IN THE BILL AS THIS
BILL, HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD AND
WORKING WITH THE CHAIR. OF
APPROPRIATIONS. I WILL WORK WITH
THE CHAIR AND THEIR STAFF TO
ADDRESS THE SIGNIFICANT TO
SIGNIFICANT DECREASED RISK OF
INJURY FROM A PEDALBIKE IN USE
, NOTING THAT STILL THEY MAY
STILL REPRESENT A PROBLEM AND
FALL HAD FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH
VISUALLY IMPAIRMENTS OR
DISABILITIES. I ASKED HIM TO
SPILL MOVE FORWARD TO GIVE US
THE TIME TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE
SOLUTIONS, INCLUDING DELAYING
THEIR INCLUSION PENDING RESEARCH
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE
ON THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE, IF
ANY WITH ME TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF 3 71. IS MY LITTLE BROTHER,
DR FRED CLIFFORD JONES AS WELL
AS REGINA BRINK WITH THE BILL
SPONSOR, THE CALIPHATE COUNSEL
FOR THE BLIND. THANK YOU, MR
JOHN SAWYER. AND WE'D LIKE TO
WELCOME OUR REGISTERED, UM.
PERSON SPEAKING AND SUPPORT WILL
GIVE THEM TIME WE HAVE WITH US
AS ALREADY STATED A REGINA BANKS
, FOLLOWED BY DR FRED JONES AS A
REMINDER YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES
COMBINED. YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN
YOU'RE READY. GOOD AFTERNOON
MEMBERS, OFFICERS, MY
DISTINGUISHED BROTHER PRESIDENT
BYRON JONES, SAWYER. I'M HONORED
TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF A B 3 70.
ACCESSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. THIS BILL IS
IMPORTANT TO THE DISABILITY
COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS
IS ONCE A PERSON ENCOUNTERS ONE
OF THESE E SCOOTERS. IT REMOVES
THEM FROM THEIR LANDING MARK OF
WHETHER TRYING TO GO SO THEY
HAVE TO MOVE TO THE LEFT OR TO
THE RIGHT OF THE SCOOTER IN
ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER
MARKING IS TO MOVE FORWARD DOWN
THE STREET. IF THEY MOVE TO THE
LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT. THEY'RE
GONNA ACTUALLY END UP INDUSTRY
TO OR DISORIENTED, SO THEY'RE
NOT ABLE TO MOVE SUCCESSFULLY
THROUGH THE COMMUNITY IN ORDER
TO GET TO THEIR NEXT DESTINATION
ATTITUDE AND LOOK WISE. PEOPLE
WHO LEAVE THESE EAST SCOOTERS
ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY
THINK THAT DISABLED PEOPLE NEED
A FULL ACCESS TO THE SIDEWALK TO
THE STREET TO THE CURB IN ORDER
TO MOVE SUCCESSFULLY TO THEIR
NEXT LOCATION. THEY MAY BE GOING
TO IN PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT. THEY
MAY BE GOING TO VISIT FRIENDS.
THEY MAY BE GOING TO VISIT LOVED
ONES, HOWEVER, WHEN THESE EAST
SCOOTERS ARE INTRODUCED ON THE
SIDEWALK THEY LOSE THEIR
ORIENTATION, AND THEY END UP IN
DANGEROUS PLACES WHICH RENDERS
THEM IN A WAY OF BEING HARMED
AND DISABLED. PEOPLE ARE NOT
ABLE TO AFFORD TO LOSE INCOME
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ON FIXED
INCOMES AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME
IN THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THE
DISABILITY COMMUNITY IS ALREADY
BEHIND IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. LET ME THANK MY
BROTHER, MY FRIEND, MY
CONFIDANTE. FOR BRINGING THIS
BILL TO YOUR ATTENTION. AS I
VIEWED THIS BILL AND TALK TO MY
DISABLED FRIENDS. WE DON'T HAVE
THIS BILL ON THE EAST COAST. SO
I ASK YOUR FULL SUPPORT IN
MAKING SURE THIS BILL GETS
THROUGH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
DR FRED JONES. WE WILL NOW ASK
REGINA BRING TO SHARE SOME
WORDS. YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY A
MINUTE AND 10 SECONDS. OKAY MY
NAME IS REGINA BRINK AND I'M,
THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS FOR THE
CALIFORNIA COUNCIL OF BLIND MY
BARREL DEVICES NOT WORKING, SO I
DO NOT HAVE MY NOTES, BUT A B 3
71 IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. IT
IS SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE
AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE INDUSTRY
, OR PERHAPS EVEN CRIPPLE IT SO
MUCH THAT THAT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY
FRIENDLY INDUSTRY WON'T BE ABLE
TO OPERATE AND NOTHING CAN BE
FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IT'S
ACTUALLY A SUCCESSFUL THING FOR
THIS INDUSTRY TO ADDRESS THIS
PROBLEM IN A COMMON SENSE WAY
IT'S BEING DONE IN CINCINNATI.
IT'S ALSO BEING DONE IN SEVERAL
EUROPEAN NATIONS. THERE'S NEEDS
TO BE A PROVISION FOR INJURIES.
THERE WAS A MAN WHO ACTUALLY DID
INCUR A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE BLIND THAT HIS HEAD WAS CUT
OPEN WHEN HE FELL OVER A
SCOOTER. THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT
WAS RUN OVER BY SOMEONE WHO WAS
DRUNK. HE WAS ACTUALLY A SIGHTED
PERSON. AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY
SOMEONE, UH, PUBLIC OFFICIAL
INCENT FRANCISCO WHO ALSO
INCURRED INJURY FROM AN E
SCOOTER, AND THESE WERE WELL
KNOWN PUBLIC. CASES WHERE ASKING
FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO
INDEED, UM, OR INSURANCE
INSURANCE COMMISSIONER TO REVIEW
THESE THINGS IN ORDER TO COMPILE
THE DATA, SO WE WILL KNOW, BUT
WE DO KNOW FROM EMERGENCY ROOM
STATISTICS THAT THESE INJURIES
ARE HAPPENING, AND WE THINK IT'S
ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. WE
ALSO ARE ASKING FOR TAX. I ASK
THAT YOU WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS
YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 SECONDS. UM
SIGNAGE, AND WE JUST URGE AND I
VOTE AND IT WILL HELP NOT ONLY
PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND OR HAVE LOW
VISION, BUT ALL PEDESTRIANS IN
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, REGINA. WE WILL NOW MOVE
OVER 21 WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT HERE IN THE ROOM. SEEN
NONE. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO
IT. THIS IS WISHING TO TESTIFY.
THE OTHER TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR, PLEASE PROMPT OR
SPEAKERS. MODERATOR WE ARE READY
FOR THOSE WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF 83 71. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 371 PLEASE PRESS
ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT THIS
TIME WHEN ZERO AND LINE THREE.
OH, THREE. PLEASE GO AHEAD. I
WILL TRY TO GO TO LINE 305 YOU
ARE OPEN. MY NAME IS JEFF TOM.
I'M WITH THE CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE
ON AGING AND VISION LOSS, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE 3 20. SIX OR NOT. EXCUSE
ME. WE'LL GO TO 308. THEY TOOK
THEMSELVES OUT. 308, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YOU ARE OPEN. MY ENTIRE
WEIGHT. WOULD YOU GET IT? UH
CHIP CHAIR WILL BE ALL MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE AND IT'S
CERTAINLY MEMBERS. VERY GOOD
AFTERNOON INFECTED WITH THIS
OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS STEPHEN
MENDELSSOHN. I AM A MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA COUNSELORS OF
LIFE AND ALSO PEDESTRIAN. AND
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. UH, LOGIC
FOR THE REASONS ALREADY GIVEN AH
, BUT ALSO TO SUGGEST THAT FAR
FROM REPRESENTING, I'M DOING
BURDEN ON THIS POINT. I'M SORRY
TO INTERJECT. WE'RE ONLY TAKING
YOUR NAME YOUR AFFILIATION AND
POSITION. THANK YOU. OF COURSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE
WOULD LIKE 3 26, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THIS IS RALPH BLACK
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
, THE BLIND AND BLIND
PEDESTRIANS IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
THANK YOU GET ONE FINAL REMINDER
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF A B
371 PLEASE. PRESS 10 LINE. 3 20,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. 3 20, YOU ARE
OPEN. ONE MORE SHOT. 3 20. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO EXPRESS AH! THERE'S
NO OTHER PARTICIPANTS KILLING UP
AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU,
MODERATOR. HAVING HEARD FROM ALL
SUPPORTERS, WE WILL FOLLOW THE
SAME PROCEDURE FOR THOSE WISHING
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO HB 3
71. THE COMMITTEE HAS DAVE
SNIDER AS IDENTIFIED. WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY BEGIN. WHEN
YOU'RE READY AS A REMINDER, YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD
pSENATORS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
DAVE SNIDER. I'M WITH CAL BIKE.
FOR OUR MISSION OF ADVOCATING
FOR EQUITABLE COMMUNITIES WHERE
PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE HEALTH AND
THE PROSPERITY AND THE JOY OF
BICYCLING. NOTHING IS MORE
IMPORTANT THAN SAFE SIDEWALKS.
NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT GETTING HIT BY A BIKE OR A
SCOOTER OR TRIPPING OVER ONE AS
THEY WALK DOWN THE SIDEWALK.
THAT'S PARAMOUNT. UH PEOPLE ALSO
NEED CONVENIENT AND AFFORDABLE
TRANSPORTATION. UNFORTUNATELY
FOR MOST PEOPLE FOR MOST TRIPS,
A PUBLIC TRANSIT ISN'T FAST
ENOUGH. IT ISN'T FREQUENT ENOUGH
AND IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A DOOR TO
DOOR TRANSPORTATION. THAT'S
WHERE SHARED BIKES AND SCOOTERS
COME IN. TO BE CLEAR. THIS ISN'T
ABOUT THOSE COMPANIES THAT ARE
CURRENTLY OPERATING THOSE
SYSTEMS. THIS IS ABOUT THE
FUTURE OF EQUITABLE
TRANSPORTATION. TRANSIT SYSTEM
WITH FAST AND FREQUENT SERVICE
ON THE MAIN LINES. AND SHARED
BIKES AND SCOOTERS TO TAKE YOU
TO THAT LAST MILE TO YOUR DOOR.
THAT CAN COMPETE FOR CONVENIENCE
WITH THE AUTOMOBILE, AND IT'S
MUCH MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE. IT'S
ESSENTIAL FOR EQUITY FOR CLIMATE
FOR SAFETY THAT WE EXPAND THESE
SYSTEMS. THIS IS THE FUTURE OF
EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION. IT'S
NOT ABOUT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE
CURRENTLY OPERATING THEM.
RESPONSIBLE CITIES GET ALL OF
THIS. THEY SUPPORT THEIR SHARED
MICHAEL MOBILITY SYSTEMS. THEIR
PERMITS REQUIRE THEIR SCOOTER
AND BIKE SHARE OPERATORS. TO
HAVE THEIR USERS PARK THEIR
DEVICE TO A METER AND TAKE A
PICTURE. TO SHOW THAT THEY
PARKED IT PROPERLY BEFORE THEY
CAN END THEIR TRIP. THEY'RE
BEGINNING TO REQUIRE SIDEWALK
DETECTION, WHICH IS A NEW
TECHNOLOGY THAT IS SHOWN TO WORK
THAT WILL DISABLE THE DEVICE
WHEN IT GETS ON THE SIDEWALK.
THEY'RE SOLVING THE PROBLEM THE
RIGHT WAY BY PREVENTING THE
PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. THIS
BILL WILL MAKE EXPANDING OF
SHARED BIKES AND SCOOTERS
PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. WE KNOW
THIS BECAUSE ABOUT A HALF DOZEN
CITIES AND NONPROFITS APPLIED
FOR MONEY AND GOT MONEY FROM THE
AIR RESOURCES BOARD'S CLEAN
MOBILITY OPTIONS PROGRAM TO
PROVIDE SHARED MICRO MOBILITY
SYSTEMS FOR DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES, AND THEY CAN'T GET
THEM STARTED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
FIND INSURANCE, AN ESTIMATE OF
HOW MUCH IT WILL COST OVER THREE
YEARS OF OPERATION IS $750,000.
THAT'S 700. THAT'S THREE
QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
FOR INSURANCE. AND LESS THAN A
QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO
PROVIDE SERVICE TO DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. LET'S NOT THE WAY
TO HAVE AN EQUITABLE
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. SOME OF
THOSE, UH, NONPROFITS IN CITIES
ARE OPERATING JUST BIKES.
THEY'RE NOT OPERATING SCOOTERS,
AND THEY ARE FRUSTRATED THAT
THAT THEY'RE LUMPED IN TOGETHER
BECAUSE BIKES ARE MUCH SAFER.
YOU CAN CARRY STUFF WITH THEM.
PEOPLE ARE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO
RIDE THEM ON THE SIDEWALK. AND
THEY HAVE HEALTH BENEFITS. BIKES
HAVE EXTERNALIZED BENEFITS.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS EXTERNALIZED
COSTS. IF THIS BILL PASSED 50
MORE SECONDS FEAR THAT PUBLIC
TRANSIT WILL DECLINE. BICYCLING
INCLUDE SCOOTING ALL THE KLEIN
OUR COMMUNITIES WILL SUFFER AS A
RESULT, WITH WITH RESPECT FOR
THE AUTHOR. AND WITH THE
IMPORTANT COMMENT THAT WE
SUPPORT THE PROVISION FOR
BRAILLE AND TACTILE DEVICES. AH
WE REQUEST RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU
REJECT THIS BILL AND LEFT THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
CONSIDER IT BECAUSE OF ITS VERY
SEVERE IMPACTS ON EQUITABLE
TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU, MR SNYDER. WE
WILL NOW ASK ANYBODY HERE
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME GIVE ME
ACTUALLY MEMBERS. ALICIA PRIEGO
, I'M HERE REPRESENTING BURDEN
LIME TODAY WE WANT TO EXTEND OUR
SINCERE GRATITUDE TO THE
COMMITTEE COMMITTEE CONSULTANT,
AUTHOR AND STAFF FOR THE WORK
OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OF
THE MICRO MOBILITY INDUSTRY. WE
STILL HAVE A FEW MODIFICATIONS
WERE WORKING THROUGH BUT OUT OF
RESPECT FOR THE COMMITTEE AND
FOR THE AUTHOR, WE WILL BE
REMOVING OUR OPPOSITION AND LOOK
FORWARD TO. CAN YOU CONTINUE
WORKING WITH EVERYONE? THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
OPPOSITION? PLEASE? JUST STATE
YOUR NAME. AFFILIATION AND YOUR
POSITION. SEEN THEN WE WILL NOW
MOVE OVER TO WITNESSES WISHING
TO TESTIFY. THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR, POLICE PROMPT OUR
CALLERS IN OPPOSITION OF ABBY 3
71. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR IF
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO A B 371
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
ZERO PLANE 3 33, PLEASE GO
AHEAD, RIGHT? PLANE. 3 33,
YOU'RE OPEN. MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. SYLVIA'S BULLISH ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SANTA
MONICA. WE WILL WE CURRENTLY
HAVE AN OPPOSING LAST AMENDED
POSITION AND WILL REVIEW THE
BILL AS IT IS AMENDED. UM AND,
UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU AS A REMINDER, PLEASE JUST
ATE YOUR NAME, AFFILIATION AND
POSITION NEXT CALLER. OKAY WE
I'LL JUST GIVE ANOTHER REMINDER,
PLEASE PRESS 10. IF YOU ARE AN
OPPOSITION TO 371. AND WE DO
HAVE A COUPLE OF QUEUING UP. ONE
MOMENT, PLEASE. 93 27, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI. THIS IS. THIS IS WILL
RATTIGAN, ADVOCACY DIRECTOR FOR
THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BICYCLE
COALITION, AND MY POSITION IS A
POLL. THANK YOU. 23 21, YOU ARE
OPEN. HI THIS IS AMY THOMPSON,
TRANSPORTATION POLICY ANALYST
WITH TRANSFORM WE OPPOSE. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. NEXT
CALLER. THANK YOU. WE HAVE WENT
WITH AN OPERATOR. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. 3 11, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI THIS IS MATT STOPFORD. I'M
CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE SANTA
MONICA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
OPPOSITION TO THE INSURANCE
REQUIREMENT. ONLY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOURCOMMENT.
THERE'S NO OTHER PARTICIPANTS
QUEUED UP THIS TIME. THANK YOU,
MODERATOR, HAVING HEARD FROM ALL
SUPPORTERS AND OPPOSITION, I
WILL NOW BRING IT BACK TO THE
MEMBERS. ANY COMMENTS? WE'LL
START WITH MR PORTANTINO. YOU
MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND I APOLOGIZE FOR
MISSING THE CONVERSATION UP TO
THIS POINT. I WAS PRESENTING A
BILL OVER ON THE OTHER IN THE
OTHER BUILDING AND CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE AH, MR JONES,
SAWYER'S COMMITMENT AND PASSION
TO THIS ISSUE. LIKE HIM. UM MY
FAVORITE AUNT GROWING UP WAS
BLIND AND AH SHOES TO BABYSIT
FOR US AND TAKE CARE OF US AND
ONE DAY EVEN WOWED US AND SHE
WROTE OUR MINI BIKE BECAUSE
SHE'D PASTE THE WIDTH OF THE
STREET AND KNEW HOW HOW MANY
SECONDS IT TOOK TO TURN AROUND
AND WAS JUST AN AMAZING WOMAN
WHO LIVED. INTO HER LATE
EIGHTIES AND WAS USED TO PROTECT
MY MOM WHEN THEY WOULD GO TO THE
MALL BECAUSE SHE WAS MORE MOBILE
THAN MY MOM WHO COULD SEE AND SO
HAVE DEEP RESPECT FOR THE BLIND
COMMUNITY AND CERTAINLY LOVE FOR
MY AUNT GENEVIEVE. BUT I ALSO DO
SOME SHARE SOME CONCERNS OF THE
BIKE COALITION. ABOUT THE
INCLUSION OF PEDAL BIKES AND
SOME OF THE OTHER. DEVICES THAT
STATISTICS SHOWED AREN'T
NECESSARILY THE PROBLEM. AND SO
I KNOW THE AUTHOR WANTS TO MOVE
THE BILL TO APPROPRIATIONS AND
WORK ON THESE THINGS, BUT I
JUST, YOU KNOW WANT TO HEAR. YOU
KNOW IF YOU'RE OPEN TO
DISCUSSING PEDAL POWER, AND
THOSE, UH, MOTORIZED SCOOTERS
THAT MAYBE OUR UNDER 17 MILES AN
HOUR, THEN AREN'T NECESSARILY
STATISTICALLY PART OF THE DANGER
IF YOU'D BE OPEN TO HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION WITH ME IF THIS
BILL GETS OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE
AS IT MOVES TO APPROACH IF WE
COULD SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT
HOW TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK BIKES
PEDAL POWER SHOULD BE EXEMPT. SO
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE
RECORD AND JUST SEE IF YOU'RE
OPEN TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION
WITH ME IS THAT IF THIS BILL
MOVES OUT OF THE COMMITTEE AND
GO TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE QUITE
WELL. AH AND I THINK I'VE MET
THE CHAIR APPROPRIATIONS, RIGHT?
WE'VE HAD PRETTY GOOD RELATIONS
, ESPECIALLY ON DIFFICULT BILLS
. UM I AM MORE THAN OPEN. I'M
OPEN TO TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY
OF THE BLIND ABOUT PEDAL BIKES
AND THEIR SIGNIFICANCE AND BUT
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING RIGHT
NOW IS TO SCOOTERS. I CAN GO TO
EACH MEMBER RIGHT HERE AND ASK
THEM HAVE THEY HAD A PROBLEM
WITH SCOOTERS IN THE STREWN ALL
OVER THE STREET. PEOPLE GOING UP
AND DOWN. I THINK THAT'S NOT A
QUESTION THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT
NOW. I WORK FOR I UNDERSTAND IS
THE DEFINITION OF WHATEVER
MOTORIZED HE LIKES, OR E DEVICES
INCLUDES PEDAL SO I THINK WE IN
MANY WAYS, THE LEGISLATURE
SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THAT, AND
I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON
THE PROPER LANGUAGE ALONG WITH
THE COMMUNITY OF THE BLIND SO
THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM BECAUSE I EVEN SAID THAT THIS
IN THE ON THE ASSEMBLY SIDE THAT
, UM I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF
PRIVATELY OWNED BICYCLES, PEDAL
BICYCLES OR EVEN MOTORIZED BY SO
THAT YOU HAVE TO RENT JUST WILLY
NILLY LAID OUT IN THE STREET.
AND SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT
NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, UM, EITHER
BASED DEFINITION AND SO I'M MORE
WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU. AND AS
YOU KNOW, NOTHING GETS OUT OF
APPROACH UNLESS THE CHAIR OF
APPROACH HAS COMFORT COMFORTABLE
WITH IT. THERE THERE IS THAT
THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN
OUR RELATIONSHIP AND GIVE IT OUR
SHARED. CONCERN OVER THE BLIND.
I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO
AN AGREEMENT. I DO. DO WANT YOU
TO BE CLEAR THAT I ALSO DO WANT
TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE LOW
MILE AN HOUR. THOSE THOSE LOW
WHATEVER. 17 MILE AN HOUR LESS
THINGS AGAIN. I MENTIONED MOPES
AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOP IT
SINCE I WAS 17, BUT WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THAT EXACTLY. I JUST WANT
TO AND AGAIN. YOU AND I HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THAT. SO JUST EVERYBODY
KNOWS THAT. YOU KNOW MY VOTE
TODAY. WILL BE PREDICATED ON
THAT CONVERSATION THAT WILL HAVE
TOMORROW AND THE DAY AND YOU
KNOW WE'LL FIGURE THIS OUT. BUT
NOTHING BECOME AN AVID BIKER IN
THE LAST 18 MONTHS. SO BEEN
DEVELOPING A VERY STRONG
RELATIONSHIP, AND THEN THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT PART OF CALIFORNIA AS
WELL AS WELL AS PROTECTING THE
BLIND, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT
CONVERSATION. SO WITH THAT
UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THE BILL, KNOWING
THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION. SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU, SENATOR
PORTANTINO ANYBODY ELSE WISHING
TO MAKE COMMENTS? SEEN ON? WELL
FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR. AND YOU KNOW,
JUST BY WAY OF HISTORY. WE'VE
COME A LONG WAY WITH THIS BILL.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE
LAST YEAR AND I WILL REALLY WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR COMING
TO THE TABLE AND REALLY WORKING
HARD TO GET TO A GOOD PLACE, YOU
KNOW, AND I SEE BOTH CONCERNS ON
BOTH SIDES. I KNOW WE WANT TO
TACKLE THE ACCESSIBILITY. OF
THESE BIKES AND MAKING SURE THAT
WE HAVE YOU KNOW THE FIRST MILE
LAST MILE TAKING CARE OF, BUT
WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY COMES NEW
CHALLENGES, AND I THINK THAT WE
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE
INTO CONSIDERATION. PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES OR LESS ABLE BODIES
. AND SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE
WORK YOU'VE DONE WITH ME, SO I
AM CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
APPROACHES CHAIR. BUT AS FAR AS
YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.
IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY. A LOT
OF WORK ON YOUR PART, AND I WANT
TO JUST THANK YOU FOR HELPING
YOU'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THESE
CHANGES AND EVERYONE ELSE THE
OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS WHO CAME
TO THE TABLE TO GET US TO A
REALLY GOOD PLACE, AND WITH THAT
WELL, I'M SORRY. I STILL SEE
WE'RE LACKING A QUORUM, SO WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THE BILL ON
CAR AND WAIT FOR A QUORUM. SO
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. MR JOHN
SAWYER. YOU DO HAVE ONE MORE
BILL THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. SO WE
WILL PUT A B 3 71 ON CALL. WE
WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO A B 2043.
YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, AND
MEMBERS PRESENT A B 2043, WHICH
WILL ALIGN CALIFORNIA WITH 18
OTHER STATES BY REQUIRING BILL
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENTS. ALSO
KNOWN AS BOUNTY HUNTERS TO
BECOME LICENSED BY THE STATE.
CURRENT LAW ON BAIL. FUGITIVE
RECOVERY AGENTS IS LIMITED TO
UNENFORCEABLE EDUCATION. NOTICED
AND CONDUCT STANDARDS AS NO
ENTITY IS CURRENTLY CHARGED WITH
IMPLEMENTATION IN NEARLY ALL
ENFORCEMENT OCCURS AFTER
VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW DESPITE
BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THE BILL
BARNES TRANSACTIONS TO
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT INSURANCE
HAS BECOME THE RECOVERY AGENTS,
THE FACTO WATCHDOG, DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THESE AGENTS ARE NOT
LICENSED. I DO NOT PAY FEES TO C
D. I NOT ONLY IS THERE A LACK OF
IN HOUSE SUPERVISION FROM
INDUSTRY WHEN HIRING CHRISTINE
RECOVERY AGENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO
LITTLE RECOURSE FOR INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARE HARMED. ALSO WHEN A BAIL
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENT IS
TERMINATED BY VIOLATING
CALIFORNIA LAW, THERE IS NO WAY
TO TRACK SUCH TERMINATION.
THAT'S INDIVIDUALS. CAN BE
REHIRED BY A SEPARATE COMPANY
ALTOGETHER AS SUCH A B 2043 6 TO
SET THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK TO
LICENSE THESE RECOVERY AGENTS BY
REQUIRING TESTING. AND PASS IT
TO OBTAIN A LICENSE PATCHES OF A
FINGERPRINT BACKGROUND CHECK AND
YOU ASSURANCE OF IN HOUSE
SUPERVISION FROM THOSE WHO ALLOW
RECOVERY AGENTS TO OPERATE ON
BEHALF OF THE THEIR BONDS. SENT
THE BILL CENTER BILL HAS BEEN
INTRODUCED. D I AND MY STAFF
HAVE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THE MOST
COMPREHENSIVE LICENSING PROCESS
SUCH IN THE MAJORITY OF THE
AMENDMENTS TAKEN AT THE REQUEST
OF THE INDUSTRY. AS FURTHER
EVIDENCE THIS PARAMILITARY SEEKS
TO PROVIDE LONG OVERDUE
REGULATION. THE MOST RECENT
AMENDMENTS ENSURE THAT
REQUIREMENTS OF THIS BILL, SUCH
AS THE LIABILITY INSURANCE AND
APPOINTMENT PROVISIONS. WILL NOT
BE BARRIERS TO INDUSTRY
OPERATIONS MEMBERS. UNLIKE OTHER
LICENSED PROFESSIONALS IN OUR
STATE THIS OCCUPATION CAN AND
HAS CAUSED TRAUMATIC IF NOT
LIFE, THREATENING OUTCOMES TO
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AS SEEN
MOST RECENTLY IN PALM SPRINGS,
THUS BY REQUIRING BAIL AGENT
RECOVERY, UM RECOVERY AGENTS
BECOME LICENSED. A B 2043 WILL
NOT ONLY PROVIDE LONG TERM
OVERSIGHT OF THIS OCCUPATION.
BUT WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE GREATER
CONSUMER PROTECTION FOR HARM
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH ME IN
THE ROOM TO SPEAK AS A SPONSOR
OF A B 2043 IS MICHAEL MARTINEZ
, SENIOR DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR ON BEHALF
OF INSURANCE COMMISSIONER
RICARDO LARA. THANK YOU. WE HAVE
MR MARTINEZ. YOU MAY BEGIN AS A
REMINDER. YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
MICHAEL MARTINEZ HERE ON BEHALF
OF COMMISSIONER LAD AND THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
INSURANCE. COMMISSIONER A LOT IS
A PROUD SPONSOR OF THIS MEASURE,
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST HER.
I VOTE AS WHAT OUR ESTEEMED
AUTHOR HAD STATED THAT THIS
WOULD CREATE THE FIRST BAIL
FUGITIVE. RECOVERY AGENT LICENSE
IN CALIFORNIA, THEREBY BRINGING
LONG OVERDUE REGULATORY
OVERSIGHT TO THE BAIL BOND
INDUSTRY. WE'VE KNOWN FOR YEARS
THAT ALLOWING THIS INDUSTRY TO
SELF REGULATORS UNACCEPTABLE IN
THE STATUS QUO. HAS NEVER BEEN
ENOUGH AS WHAT MR JOHN SWORD HAS
STATED RECENT TRAGIC EVENTS
INVOLVING BOUNTY HUNTERS. TRYING
TO PREVENT APPREHEND THOSE WHO
ALLEGEDLY JUMPED BAIL HAVE ALSO
PUSHED THE NEED FOR MORE
DEPARTMENTAL OVERSIGHT, A BOUNTY
HUNTERS TO THE FOREFRONT. THIS
BILL IS NEEDED NOW TO RAISE THE
STANDARD. FOR BAIL. FUGITIVE
RECOVERY PERSONS TO APPREHEND
BAIL FUGITIVES AS WELL AS CHINA
NECESSARY LIGHT ON THIS INDUSTRY
. IT WILL ALSO STRENGTHEN THE
DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY. TO PROTECT
THE PUBLIC AND HELP PREVENT
FUTURE VIOLATIONS OF LAW THAT
THREATENED PUBLIC SAFETY. WITH
THAT W WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST HER. I VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR MARTINEZ. WE'RE
GOING TO TAKE UP PASSES, MR ROTH
HERE. OH, THERE YOU ARE. OKAY WE
ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE PAUSE
JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ESTABLISH A QUORUM SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. RUBIO.
PRESENT. PRESENT UH, JONES.
BATES. GORGEOUS. PRESIDENT DODD.
GLASER. PRESENT, HERTZBERG WE
SELL. HER TAITO. PRESIDENT
MELENDEZ. PRESENT PORTANTINO.
HERE AND ROTH. OKAY? CORN SEVEN
MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED
A QUORUM. I THOUGHT IT WOULD NOW
WE WILL PROCEED. REMINDED THAT I
AM ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I WAS TOLD TO MAKE
SURE I MENTIONED THAT. OKAY
THERE YOU HAVE IT SO, BUT THANK
YOU FOR THAT, SO WE WILL
CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS IS
HERE. ANYBODY HERE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL? YOU MAY DO SWEAT THIS
TIME. SEEN NONE. WE WILL NOW
MOVE OVER TO THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY. THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR. POLICE PROMPT
THOSE WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 2043. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR IF YOU AREN'T
SUPPORTIVE, A B 2043 PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT THIS TIME.
PUT YOURSELF IN Q WENT FOLLOWED
BY ZERO. A B 2043. AND WE ARE
GETTING NOBODY QUEUING UP AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MODERATOR
. HAVING HEARD FROM ALL
SUPPORTERS, ANYBODY WISHING TO
TESTIFY? I THINK I HAVE, UM
REGISTERED OPPOSITION. JEFF
CLAYTON IS IDENTIFIED AS THE
LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESS. YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES YOU MAY
PROCEED. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MY NAME IS JEFF CLAYTON. I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
AMERICAN BAIL COALITION. I WAS
ABOUT TO TESTIFY, OPPOSED BUT
BASED ON REPRESENTATION THAT THE
ASSEMBLYMAN WOULD ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENT THAT WOULD REMOVE OUR
OPPOSITION TO THE LEGISLATION
WANT TO THANK THE ASSEMBLYMAN
AND HIS STAFF FOR, UM DOING THIS
BILL. I MEAN, THIS WAS A
DIFFICULT BUILDING GET THROUGH.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A
LONG TIME. THERE'S A LOT OF
MOVING PARTS. IT'S KIND OF A
FRACTURED INDUSTRY. AND HIS
STAFF DID A TREMENDOUS JOB. SO
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND THANK THE COMMITTEE
FOR THEIR TIME. THANK YOU. HAVE
A GOOD DAY, MADAM CHAIR. YES
INQUIRY. GO AHEAD. WE'RE
THROWING AROUND TERMS LIKE
AMENDMENTS. AND I THINK THERE
MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF
CONFUSION. CAN WE ASK FOR A
RECITATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT? THAT IS BEING ACCEPTED
AND WHAT IS BEING DEFERRED TO
THE NEXT COMMITTEE? ABSOLUTELY
AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY, EVEN
THOUGH THE AUTHOR HAS STATED HE
WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS.
THESE AMENDMENTS WILL NOT BE
TAKEN IN THIS COMMITTEE AS WE DO
NOT HAVE TIME TO DO SO, BUT NEXT
IT WILL MOVE OVER TO PUBLIC
SAFETY. WHERE HE'S ALREADY
STATED HE BE INCLINED TO TAKE
AMENDMENTS, SO I WILL TAKE THOSE
AMENDMENTS THAT ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION. NOT INCLINED. I DON'T
KNOW THE AMENDMENTS, BUT I'M
SINCE WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH
THEM NOW. THANK YOU. BUT THANK
YOU FOR THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO
PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. OKAY SO
NOW HAVING HEARD FROM OUR LEAD
WITNESS HERE NOW I MOVE ON TO
ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, WISHING TO
TESTIFY N OPPOSITION OF THIS
MEASURE. SEEN THEN WE WILL NOW
MOVE OVER TO THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY. THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE IN
OPPOSITION OF A B 2043
MODERATOR, PLEASE PROMPT THE
CALLERS. THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 2043 GO AHEAD
AND HELP ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO TO
POLICE YOURSELF. THANK YOU, BABY
GIRL. AND WE DO HAVE ONE WITH AN
OPERATOR. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
ANYBODY ELSE IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO A B
2043 PLEASE PRESS 10. AND WE
WILL GO TO LINE. 3 31 EUROPAN.
THANK YOU TREAT EVERYONE. THANK
YOU. CHAIR RUBIO AND MEMBERS TO
THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS DAN
ESCAMBIA CHAPMAN, LAW SCHOOL
GRADUATE AND POST ACADEMY
GRADUATES IN THE ORANGE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. AND I HAVE
BEEN WORKING AS A FUGITIVE
RECOVERY AGENT FOR 15 YEARS. UM
I AM SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO
THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT. AT
THIS POINT, I COULD ONLY TAKE
YOUR NAME AFFILIATION IN YOUR
POSITION. OKAY I HAVE A MAY 13TH
2022 LETTERS TO THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OFFICE, WHICH
I'VE LODGED WITH THE COMMITTEE,
WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL NEXT.
CALLER. THANK YOU. OKAY. ONE
MOMENT, MADAM. SURE WE DO HAVE
ONE WITH AN OPERATOR. ANYBODY
ELSE AGAIN? I'LL GIVE THE FINAL
REMINDER ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO IF
YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO A B
2043. CLAIM 3 22, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THERE ARE 3 22. 93 22,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ROB DICK. UH
BELL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION IN
OUR POSITION. CAN TELL
AMENDMENTS WERE MADE. MODERATOR.
PARTICIPANTS. I WAS JUST
REMINDED. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A
REGISTERED OPPOSITION HERE. WE
WANT TO GIVE THE I BELIEVE HE
WAS SHERIFF MEMBER THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 43 MINUTES
IF HE'S STILL ON THE LINE. OKAY,
GO AHEAD. WE'LL GIVE THEM A
MINIATURE. BEYOND QUÊ.
MODERATOR. DO YOU SEE THE
WITNESS? ON CUE. WHAT WAS THE
NAME? AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE
WE'VE LOST THE PERSON WISHING TO
SPEAK. SO OUR APOLOGIES FOR THAT
. SO PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR, UM YOUR
OPPOSITION AND WE WILL GLADLY
TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
WOULD YOU MAY I ADD RIDICULOUS
SOME LETTERS. THEN JUST
FREAKING. YOU HEARD THAT THE
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS HAD TAKING
THEIR THEIR OPPOSITION OFF. WE
WILL LOOK AT THAT LETTER THAT
WAS JUST MENTIONED AND WE'LL
MAKE SURE IF WE MOVE FORWARD IF
WE CAN INCORPORATE IT AT LEAST
HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM
ABOUT HIS CONCERNS, SO I'M A LET
YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE
LEFT OUT WELL. WE'LL GO AHEAD
AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE PROPER
INPUT AS WE GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY
. THANK YOU FOR THAT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UH AND AGAIN
OUR APOLOGIES. WE DIDN'T HAVE A
REGISTERED OPPOSITION, BUT
YOU'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO
CALL IN AND REGISTER YOUR
OPPOSITION AS IT MOVES TO PUBLIC
SAFETY TESTIFIED POSSIBLY OF
PUBLIC SAFETY. ABSOLUTELY ANY
OTHERS WAITING TO WITH WISHING
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TEST
PLAYING OPPOSITION TO A B 2043
PLEASE PRESS 10. AND NOBODY
ELSE'S QUEUING UP. THANK YOU,
AND OPPOSITIONS. NOW I'LL TAKE
IT BACK TO THE MEMBERS WISHING
TO SPEAK ON THIS MEASURE. MADAM
CHAIR I OPPOSE. SORRY FOR
INTERRUPTING, BUT SOMEBODY DID
JUST QUEUE UP. THAT MIGHT BE THE
PERSON YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
ABSOLUTELY ACTUALLY GIVE THEM
TIME TO SPEAK. YOU MAY PROCEED.
OKAY HERE YOU GO. THANK YOU FOR
UNDERSTANDING LINE. 3 31, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT
TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT
I'M NOT WITH ANY
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION. I WAS JUST
TRAINED BY THE ORANGE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OPPOSED
FACILITY. SO I'VE BEEN HANDLING
FUGITIVE RECOVERY FOR 15 YEARS
IN MY CONCERN HAS TO DO WITH THE
LIABILITY INSURANCE. UNDERCOUNT
UNDER INSURANCE CODE 5 33. THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA DOES NOT
ALLOW THE INSURANCE FOR
INTENTIONAL TORTS FUGITIVE
RECOVERY AGENT IS ONLY SUED FOR
INTENTIONAL TORTS, INCLUDING
TRESPASS, ASSAULT BATTERY. FALSE
IMPRISONMENT AND IN SOME CASES,
DEFAMATION. NONE OF THE ORDINARY
ACTIVITIES ENGAGED IN BY
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENTS WOULD
BE COVERED UNDER THE POLICY
PROPOSED BY THIS LEGISLATION.
THE POLICY IS AN ILLUSORY POLICY
, BOTH TO THE FUGITIVE RECOVERY
AGENTS THAT PURCHASE IT AND TO
THOSE MAKING CLAIMS AGAINST THE
FUGITIVE RECOVERY AGENTS. THIS
STATE LAW IN ITS CURRENTSTATE
UNDER INSURANCE CODE, 5 33
SIMPLY DOES NOT ALLOW BUT THE
ACTIVITIES OF FUGITIVE RECOVERY
TO BE ENSURED BASED ON THE FACT
THAT THEIR DELIBERATE ACTS
THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND
ONCE AGAIN, IT WILL BE REFERRED
TO PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH TIME
PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CALL IN, BUT WE WILL FINISH THE
PROCESS AGAIN, HAVING HEARD FROM
ALL THE OPPOSITION AND
SUPPORTERS. MEMBERS WISHING TO
MAKE A COMMENT. YOU MIGHT DO
THIS AT THIS TIME. WE'LL START
WITH SENATOR GLASER. THANK YOU,
CHAIR RUBIO. I JUST WANTED TO
GIVE THE AUTHOR THE CHANCE TO
RESPOND TO THOSE CONCERNS THAT
HAD BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE CALLER
IN TERMS OF THE AVAILABILITY OF
INSURANCE POLICY. DEALING WITH
THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES HAS
THERE IS THIS BIN IS THIS
LICENSING AND INSURANCE
REQUIREMENT IN PLACE IN OTHER
STATES, AND IF YOU COULD SPEAK
TO THE EXPERIENCE AND GETTING
INSURANCE WOULD HAVE TO ASK, UH
, THE CHURCH COMMISSIONER
REPRESENTATIVE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
MR MARTINEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
ADDRESS THAT THANK YOU. MARCO
MARTINEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE AND
FIRST OF ALL THERE IS WITH THE
DELAYED MOVEMENT IMPLEMENTATION
DATE TO JULY. 1ST 2023, THE
AUTHOR, AND WE HAD HAD ACCEPTED
THAT AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO
ENSURE THAT THERE WERE INSURANCE
PRODUCTS TO COVER THESE
LIABILITY POINTS. AS YOU KNOW,
SENATOR LIABILITY INSURANCE IS
PROVIDED TO PROTECT AGAINST
CLAIMS RESULTING FROM INJURIES
AND DAMAGE TO PEOPLE AND THEIR
PROPERTY. AND SO THAT WAS AN
IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT WE DID
WANT UH, TO THIS BILL. ANOTHER
IS THAT THE $1 MILLION LEVEL AND
LIABILITY INSURANCE COVERAGE IS
ALREADY MANDATED TODAY UNDER
CALIFORNIA STATE LAW. FOR
PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS IN PRIVATE
PATROL OPERATORS. AND SO WE FELT
THAT THAT WAS PARALLEL AND
HAVING THE $1 MILLION LIABILITY
INSURANCE COVERAGE. I COULD
FOLLOW UP. ABSOLUTELY IT DOES
SEEM THAT THE PROFESSIONS ARE
SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THERE. BUT
LET ME ASK YOU THIS. I MEAN, IF
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE
MARKETPLACE IN THIS SPACE, SO
WHILE YOU DELAY THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BILL, WHAT
GUARANTEE? THAT THERE IS GOING
TO BE A MARKETPLACE AND SHOULD
THE AUTHOR CONSIDER A PROVISION
IN THE BILL THAT SAYS THAT THERE
HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF OCCASSION
OF AN ACTIVE MARKETPLACE, OR
YOU'RE SHUTTING DOWN THE
INDUSTRY COMPLETELY. SO I GO
BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
INSURANCE. ARE YOU AWARE OF
INSURANCE COVERAGE IN THIS
PARTICULAR PROFESSION? NOT IN
THESE OTHERS IN ANY OTHER STATE
IN AMERICA. CAN I JUST ADD? A
COROLLARY. WHEN I STARTED THE
BILL BEFOREHAND. THERE WAS NO
INSURANCE FOR SCOOTERS AND THE
INDUSTRY SAID THERE WOULD NOT BE
ANY. NOBODY WOULD WE'VE HAD A
PLETHORA OF PEOPLE NOW NOT ONLY
WANT TO ENSURE SCOOTERS, BUT
THEY HELPED US GET TO THAT
$10,000 NUMBER. UM I BELIEVE THE
INSURANCE INDUSTRY ONCE YOU
GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY. TO MAKE A
PROFIT OR TO BRING UP A PRODUCT.
THEY WILL FILL THAT GAP LIKE
THEY DID WITH THE SCOOTER
INDUSTRY. I THINK THE SAME WILL
HAPPEN HERE. WE JUST NEED A
LITTLE MORE TIME TO GIVE THEM
THAT. THE ABILITY TO RAMP UP. I
THINK IT'S MORE OF RAMPING UP
THEN WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL
BE A PRODUCT. WITH RESPECT TO
THE AUTHOR. I THINK THE I WOULD
LOVE IT. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO
HEAR THE ANSWER FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE IF IT'S
POSSIBLE, AND I WOULD NOTE AND
AGAIN, MUCH PRAISE TO YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN THE INSURANCE FOR
THE SCOOTER SPACE. I WOULD SAY
THAT. YOU KNOW HOW MANY LIGHT?
HOW MANY DO HOW MANY LICENSES
ARE WE EXPECTING? FOR THESE
FOLKS IN THE STATE. MY GUESSES
WERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MUCH
SMALLER NUMBER THAN THE NUMBER
OF SCOOTERS THAT ARE OUT THERE
IN THE STREET THAT NEEDS SOME
SOME FORM OF INSURANCE. BUT
PERHAPS THE INSURANCE REP COULD
SPEAK TO HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU
THINK WE THE LICENSING WOULD BE
FOUR AND THEN TO GO BACK TO MY
PREVIOUS QUESTION, WHICH IS? IS
THERE ANY EXAMPLE OF INSURANCE
COVERAGE FOR THIS SPECIFIC
PROFESSION IN ANY OTHER STATE?
AND WHETHER OR NOT AND HOW WOULD
A PROVISION BE WRITTEN TO TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT IF THERE IS NO IN
SHERLOCK, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE
INSURANCE MARKET CREATED BY YOUR
DEADLINE, OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE
THAT OVERSIGHT. TO ENSURE WE
DON'T HAVE SOMETHING COMPLETELY
BREAK DOWN OUT OF IT THE BEST OF
INTENTIONS. THANK YOU, SENATOR
FOR RESTATING THAT QUESTION.
YOUR QUESTION AND I AM INFORMED
BY STAFF THAT WE THE DEPARTMENT
OF INSURANCE. WE'RE AWARE OF SIX
COMPANIES THAT OFFER THE TYPE OF
LIABILITY COVERAGE PROPOSED IN
THE BILL TODAY. AND SO THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT BASED ON AS FROM
REGULATOR TO REGULATOR. WE ARE
IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER
STATE REGULATORS, INCLUDING THE
STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
OKLAHOMA. AND BEING TOLD THAT
ALSO HAVE, UH THIS EXACT
INSURANCE REQUIREMENT ON THEIR
INSURERS, AND THERE IS A
MARKETPLACE. FOR THIS LIABILITY
INSURANCE TODAY. IF I COULD JUST
CLOSE ON THIS. WE WERE JUST
HEARING A BILL FROM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY ABOUT
CANNABIS AND THE SHORTAGE OF
INSURANCE COVERAGE AND THAT
MARKETPLACE AND I THINK IT WAS
SIX OR SEVEN. SO I APPRECIATE
WHAT YOU SAID. I GUESS I WOULD
JUST GO TO THE AUTHOR AND SAY
THAT IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE SOME
CONSIDERATION IF THERE REALLY IS
NO MARKETPLACE, YOU SHUT IT ALL
DOWN AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING
YOU CAN DO IN THE BILL THAT TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT THAT CONTINGENCY
MAY NOT HAPPEN. IT WOULD. IT
WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE
CONSRUCTIVE SO THAT WE COULD
CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT.
I KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS AREN'T TO
SHUT IT DOWN. TENSIONS ARE HAVE
IT BE PROPERLY LICENSED OF THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY ELEMENTS GET
GET PUT INTO PLACE AND THAT
THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW,
INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR PROBLEMS
THAT THAT MAY VERY WELL ARE
OCCURRING. SO I APPRECIATE ALL
THAT. AND I JUST ASKED YOU TO
GET THAT CONSIDERATION AND I
WILL. THANK YOU, SENATOR GLASER
. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK
AS SENATOR GORGEOUS? I WANT TO
THANK MY FRIEND, SENATOR GLASER
. HE HONED IN ON SOMETHING I
THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT. UM
BOUNTY HUNTERS, AND I'LL JUST
USE IT LOOSELY. BOUNTY HUNTERS
HAVE SERVED A VERY IMPORTANT
ROLE IN AMERICAN HISTORY AS AN
AUXILIARY TO, UH FORMAL
AUTHORITIES. YOU KNOW THEY'RE
ABLE TO GO AFTER INDIVIDUALS
THAT HAVE SKIPPED OR, UH ARE
SUBJECTS OF WARRANTS AND STUFF
LIKE THAT, SO THEY SERVE A VERY
IMPORTANT POINT. AND I READ IN A
LAW REVIEW ARTICLE A WHILE BACK
THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW THE LEGACY
OF THAT SORT OF WILD WEST
HERITAGE THAT EXISTS AND MIND
YOU. I'M FROM ARIZONA.
ORIGINALLY SO THINGS WERE A
LITTLE BIT MORE WILD WEST MORE
RECENTLY THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN
CALIFORNIA. UM I THINK IT'S
SMART TO TREAT THIS AS A
PROFESSION THAT REQUIRES A
LICENSE. WE DO IT FOR SO MANY
DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. BUT THIS
IS ONE OF THE INDUSTRIES WHERE
PUBLIC SAFETY IS AT RISK AS
WELL. YOU KNOW WHETHER SOMEONE
IS ON THE RUN OR YOU KNOW
SOMEONE IS DANGEROUS. SOMEONE
HAS SKIPPED SO ON AND SO FORTH.
INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO BE
APPREHENDED FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS CAN POSE PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS TO THE COMMUNITY. UM
WITH THAT IN MIND, YOU WOULD
EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD THERE
WOULD BE A DEGREE OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT TRAINING OR
APPREHENSION, TRAINING,
PSYCHOLOGY, TRAINING, MEDICAL,
YOU KNOW, RISK MITIGATION,
TRAINING IT, JUST IT. IT'S
SOMETHING THAT SEEMS REASONABLE
. ABSOLUTELY REASONABLE. UM.
RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW GETTING
TO SENATOR GLASER'S POINT.
MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE DON'T
HOLLOW OUT THE INDUSTRY WITHOUT
THERE BEING A FORESEEABLE
BACKUP. NOW AND I DON'T KNOW
ABOUT THE SIX OR SEVEN STATES
WHETHER OR NOT THE INDUSTRY HAS
RESPONDED TO THOSE PARTICULAR
CIRCUMSTANCES, PERHAPS UM
INDIVIDUALS ARE PART OF A GUILD
OR AN ASSOCIATION OR WORK WITH A
MAJOR. PRIVATE CONTRACTOR. TO IN
ORDER TO GET THOSE BUT ON
INDIVIDUAL BASIS. MAYBE I'LL
POSE A QUESTION IF I MAY, MADAM
CHAIR TO REPRESENTED FROM
INSURANCE COMMISSIONER AND I
KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO
THIS INFORMATION, BUT ARE THESE
INDIVIDUAL POLICIES GIVEN TO
INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, OR ARE THEY
MOSTLY INSTITUTIONAL POLICIES
FOR A COLLECTIVE? THANK YOU,
SENATOR GEORGES MICHEL MARTINEZ
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE. THAT IS
A GOOD QUESTION, AND I WOULD ASK
IF I COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON
THAT. BECAUSE THEY DON'T I DO
NOT WANT TO GET IT. YOU WANT TO
BE ENTIRELY ACCURATE WHEN I GET
BACK AND TO YOU ON THAT AS WELL
AS IT. THEY WERE JUST TO MAKE
SURE THERE WERE SIX COMPANIES
VERSUS SIX STATES. THERE ARE SIX
EXCUSE ME, YOUR INSURERS THAT
PROVIDE THIS LIABILITY INSURANCE
THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS
BILL THAT OFFER THIS INSURANCE
TODAY. NO OFFENSE TO OUR FRIENDS
FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. BUT
CALIFORNIA'S DRAMATICALLY
DIFFERENT INDEED TRUE, BUT I'LL
LEAVE IT HERE. I THINK THE POINT
WAS WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEEPER
DIVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE
MARKETPLACE WILL ADAPT. AND I
KNOW WE USED THE IDEA OF
SCOOTERS. SCOOTERS, I THINK ARE
GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT BASELINE
, THEN THE REALM OF BOUNTY
HUNTING. AND I THINK IF. IF WE
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE,
I'M HOPING THAT YOU'RE
CONSIDERING THE START DATE NOT
JUST OF JULY 23. BUT THERE WOULD
BE A CAVEAT. STATUTORY CAVEAT
THAT IF THIS ISSUE IS NOT
RESOLVED. TO THE SATISFACTION OF
THE PLAYERS IN THE INDUSTRY THAT
YOU KNOW IF WE HOLLOW IT OUT.
WE'RE JUST SHOOTING OUR OWN
FOOT. AND I WOULD I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THAT BE A
PRIORITY. UM WRITTEN INTO THE
BILL ITSELF THAT THIS BILL WILL
SUNSET ABSENT SHOWING OF MARKET
AVAILABILITY. WE WILL, AND I'LL
LET YOU CLOSE, EVEN BOND,
POSSIBLY EVEN LOOKING AFTER
BECAUSE I THINK THESE FOLKS ARE
BONDED IN IN IN INSTANCES IS
THAT CORRECT? I THINK THEY ARE.
YES THEY ARE WONDERING IF THE
BONDING MIGHT ITSELF BE A. A
COVERAGE ALLOWING FOR COVERAGE
OF TORTIOUS EVENTS. THAT'S
SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT. SO NOW
I WILL BRING IT OVER TO SENATOR
GLACIER. YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT
FOLLOW UP IN THE SENATOR FROM
FRESNO'S DATA REQUESTS. I WOULD
ONLY ADD TO THAT TO GIVE
EXAMPLES OF THE COST OF THAT
MILLION DOLLAR POLICY. YOU SAID
SIX OR SEVEN COMPANIES ARE
PROVIDING IT. THEY CERTAINLY
COULD PROVIDE SOME COST
ESTIMATES OF WHAT THEIR ANNUAL
FEE WOULD BE SO WE CAN
UNDERSTAND HOW PRAGMATIC THAT
COVERAGE REALLY WOULD BE JUST TO
FOLLOW UP THAT I'VE ADDED THAT
DATA REQUESTED THE SENATOR FROM
PRESIDENT THANK YOU. ANYBODY
ELSE? OTHER MEMBERS WISHING TO
SPEAK SEEN NONE. UM, YOU KNOW
AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOU. ONCE
AGAIN. YOU'VE SHOWN WILLINGNESS
TO TAKE ALL THESE IMPORTANT
COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE BILL. AT
THIS POINT. I'LL GIVE YOU THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE AND THANK
YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE
QUESTIONS. I FEEL EXTREMELY UM
COMFORTABLE OR CONFIDENT. THAT
WE CAN NOT ONLY PROVIDE YOU THE
ANSWERS ON THE INSURANCE AND
INSURANCE PROVIDERS OF I KNOW I
MENTIONED THE SCOOTER BILL WHERE
THERE WERE NONE. IT TOOK AN
INTERN. IN MY OFFICE WAS NOT
FULLY EMPLOYED WITH ME TO BE
ABLE TO COME UP WITH SEVERAL
INSURANCE AGENTS, SO SHE STILL
WORKS FOR ME. I'LL PUT HER ON
THIS. I'M PRETTY SURE SHE WILL
FIND NOT ONLY WHAT NOW LET ME
FIND COMPANIES THEY'RE WILLING
TO MEET SOME KIND, SOME KIND OF
DEADLINE. OR FITTING SOME
PARAMETERS BUT ALSO WORK WITH
THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSURANCE ABOUT YOUR QUESTION
ABOUT BONDING DOES THAT COULD
THAT SERVICE AND JUST ALL THE
QUESTIONS JUST BROUGHT UP? I
THINK BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE GO
TO PUBLIC SAFETY, HOPEFULLY WE
COULD NOT ONLY ADDRESS BUT MAYBE
PUT THESE QUESTIONS TO BED.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE EMOTION BY
GENERAL GLASER. MADAM SECRETARY
PIECE CALLED THE WRONG. FILE
ITEM TO A B 2043. THE MOTION IS
DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY
SENATORS RUBIO HIGH RUBIO, I
JONES. BATES GORGEOUS. DIED.
GLASER. PLEASE. OR I HERZBERG
HUESO HER TATO MELENDEZ
PORTANTINO. PORTANTINO. AYE,
ROTH. THE BOY HAS THREE VOTES.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT BELONG.
CALL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION MEMBERS. UH WE
ARE GOING TO BEFORE WE CAN TEAM
PRESENTATIONS. I'D LIKE TO TAKE
A PASS SO WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE
CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE A B 16
81 DAILY A B 1989 WORK 20 TO 38
THREE OF US A B 24 50 VIA
DAIRIES. AND A B 26 OR FOUR
CALDERON. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR BORJAS. MADAM SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. RUBIO I
RUBIO I JONES BATES. GORGEOUS
GORGEOUS, I DODD GLASER. LASER
EYE, HERTZBERG. HUESO HER TAITO
MELINDA'S PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO. AYE, ROTH. THE BILL
HAS I'M SORRY. CONSENT CALDERON
HAS FOUR VOTES WILL CONTINUE TO
PUT THAT ON CALL. WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT A B 23 72
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CALDERON. I
UNDERSTAND. SHE'S ALSO NOT ABLE
TO PRESENT HERSELF SO WE WILL
HAVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S VIA PARIS
PRESENT ON HER BEHALF. UH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WELCOME. WHEN
YOU'RE READY, YOU MAY PROCEED.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ASSEMBLY BILL 23 72
WOULD ALLOW FOR PERSONAL
INSURERS THAT DO NOT SHARE
PERSONAL POLICYHOLDER
INFORMATION TO NONAFFILIATED
THIRD PARTIES FOR MARKETING
PURPOSES TO SEND OUT THEIR
PRIVACY POLICY. ONLY IF IT HAS
CHANGED. CURRENT LAW REQUIRES
INSURERS TO SEND OUT THEIR
PRIVACY POLICIES TO CONSUMERS AT
THE START OF A NEW POLICY AND
EVERY YEAR AFTER. IN ADDITION,
INSURERS ARE REQUIRED TO
MAINTAIN THEIR PRIVACY POLICIES
ON THEIR WEBSITE AND PROVIDED AT
THE REQUEST OF THE POLICY
HOLDER. THIS BILL IS SEEKING TO
REMOVE A REDUNDANCY FOR ELIGIBLE
INSURERS AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT
OF UNNECESSARY PAPER WASTE
GENERATED HERE IN SUPPORT IS
ALISON ADDY, FROM THE PERSONAL
INSURANCE FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. UM WHEN
YOU'RE READY, YOU MAY PROCEED.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I'M ALISON 80 WITH THE
PERSONAL INSURANCE FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIA THE VERY PROUD
SPONSORS OF A B 23 72. THIS
LEGISLATION WILL UPDATE ONE OF
THE TWO STRUCTURES UNDER WHICH
INSURERS MUST SEND REGULAR
PRIVACY NOTICES. IT HAS BEEN
CAREFULLY DRAFTED TO ENSURE THAT
IF IT FURTHERS CALIFORNIA'S
VALUES OF PRIVACY, PROTECTION
AND INFORMATION ACCESS WELL
CONFORMING NOTICE REQUIREMENTS
TO COMPLY WITH THE 2015
AMENDMENTS TO THE G L B A
CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF THREE
STATES THAT HAS NOT YET ADOPTED
THE 2015 MODEL NOTICE FROM THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
INSURANCE COMMISSIONERS. A B 23
72 BRINGS OUR REQUIREMENTS IN
LINE WITH THE 47 OTHER STATES
THAT HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED THIS
POLICY. WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON
THIS AS WELL AS TO THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER AND HER STAFF. REMOVING
THIS BILL FORWARD. WE STRONGLY
URGENT. I VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU, UM ANYBODY ELSE
WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT?
MADAM CHAIR DENNY RITTER HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PROPERTY
CASUALTY INSURANCE ASSOCIATION,
AS WELL AS ACT LIKE ECHOING THE
SUPPORTIVE COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. ANYBODY ELSE
IN THIS FROM WISHING TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL? YOU MAY DO
SO AT THIS TIME. SEEN NONE. WE
WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO THOSE
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
OF A B 23 72, THE OTHER
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR, POLICE PROMPT OR
CALLERS. THANK YOU. IF YOU
AREN'T SUPPORTIVE A B 23 72
PLEASE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND
PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO. ONE
FALL BY ZERO. MADAM CHAIR.
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP. THANK YOU
FOR HAVING HER FROM ALL
SUPPORTERS. WE WILL NOW FOLLOW
THE SAME PROCEDURE FOR
OPPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE
DOESN'T SHOW ELITE WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION. IDENTIFIED IF
THERE'S ANYONE IN THIS ROOM,
WISHING TO JUSTIFY AN
OPPOSITION, YOU MAY DO SO AT
THIS TIME. SEEN THEN WE WILL NOW
MOVE OVER TO THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE. ANYBODY WISHING TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF A B 23
72? YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME,
MODERATOR, PLEASE PROMPT OUR
CALLERS. THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 23 72 PRESS
101, FOLLOWED BY ZERO TO QUEUE
UP. AND WE HAVE NO PARTICIPANTS
QUEUING UP THIS TIME. THANK YOU
HAVING HER FROM ALL SUPPORTERS
AND OPPOSITION. I'LL BRING IT
BACK TO THE MEMBERS. ANYBODY
WISHING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON
THIS MEASURE YOU MAY DO SO.
ANYBODY ELSE BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR GLASER, MADAM. SECRETARY
PIECE CALLED THE WRONG FILE ITEM
EIGHT. E 237 TO THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATORS. RUBIO SENATOR RUBIO,
I. JONES. BATES, RIGHT. SPEEDS I
GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS I DODD DOT I
GLASER PLEASE. RI HERTZBERG. WE
SO HER TAITO. MELINDA'S
PORTANTINO. PORTANTINO. AYE,
ROTH. THE BILL HAS SIX VOTES. WE
WILL PUT THAT BILL ON CALL.-THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE
JOINED US SO WE WILL NOW GO BACK
AND ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO START
WITH ONSENT ITEMS. UH ONCE
AGAIN WE WERE GOING TO GO BACK
TO CONSENT ITEMS BUILD A B 16 81
A B 1999 A B 20 TO 38 A B 24 50
AND A B 26 OH, FOUR, MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JONES. BATES. BEATS I DODD. AYE,
HERTZBERG. HUESO. POTATO.
MELINDA'S. MELINDA'S, AYE, ROTH.
VILLA HAS US SIX VOTES. I WILL
CONTINUE TO PUT CONSENT CALENDAR
ON ON CAR. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER
TO A B 3 71 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
JOHN SAWYER. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE WRONG FILE ITEM
ONE E 371. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND
AND WE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS RUBIO
HI RUBIO. I JONES. BATES ABSTAIN
GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS I DODD GOD, I
GLASER HERTZBERG. HUESO POTATO.
MELINDA SAYS. PORTANTINO
PORTANTINO. AYE, ROTH. THAT BILL
HAS FOUR VOTES WEREN'T
CONSIDERED. KEEP THAT BILL ON
CALL. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO A
B 2043 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOHN
SAWYER. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM TO A B
2043. THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
PUBLIC SAFETY. WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I JONES. BATES, NOT
BUDDY. GORGEOUS. DODD DOT I
HERTZBERG WE SELL. HER TAITO.
MELINDA SAYS. MELINDA'S NO ROTH.
THAT BILL HAS FOUR VOTES AT THIS
TIME WILL CONTINUE TO PUT THAT
BILL ON CALL. WE WILL NOW MOVE
OVER TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE A B 21
54 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY
MADAM SECRETARY PIECE CALLED THE
WRONG FILE ITEM FIVE. A B 2154.
THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS RUBIO
HIGH, RUBIO, I. JONES BATES
CYBORG GIS. DODD DOT I GLASER
HERTZBERG. HUESO. HER TAITO.
MELENDEZ MELINDA'S, AYE,
PORTANTINO. PORTANTINO I. RATH.
THE BILL HAS FIVE VOTES AT THIS
TIME WILL CONTINUE TO PUT THAT
BILL ON CALL. WE WILL NOW MOVE
OVER TO ITEM NUMBER SIX A. B 25
68 BY ASSEMBLY COOLEY MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
FILE ITEMS. SIX A B 2568. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS SENATORS
RUBIO RUBIO, I JONES. BATES
BATES, I BORE GIS. DODD DOT I
GLASER HERTZBERG. WE SELL. HER
TAITO. MELINDA'S. PORTANTINO
PORTANTINO. AYE, ROTH. THE BILL
HAS FOUR VOTES WILL CONTINUE TO
PUT THAT BILL ON CALL. WE WILL
NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM EIGHT A. B
23 72 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CALDERON. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM
EIGHT. A B 237 TO THE MOTION IS
DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
CHAIR VOTING I JONES HERTZBERG.
WE SELL. HER TATO. MELENDEZ
MELINDA'S, AYE, ROTH. SO BILL
HAS SEVEN VOTES AT THIS TIME OR
CONTINUE PUT THAT BILL ON CALL.
ARE SINCE WE ARE STILL MISSING
SOME MEMBERS. WE WILL TAKE A
SHORT RECESS AT THIS TIME UNTIL
WE CAN GET EVERYONE HERE. THANK
YOU.
OKAY WE WILL NOW OPEN THE
COMMITTEE, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE
ABSENT MEMBERS. WE WILL START
WITH OUR CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH
INCLUDES ITEMS A B 16 81 A B
1989 A B 20 TO 38 A B 24 50 AND
80 26 OR FOUR, MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE WRONG JONES.
HERTZBERG HUESO HURT OTTO ROTH.
AYE. CONSENT CALDERON HAS EIGHT
VOTES WILL KEEP THE VOTE ROLL
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. WE WILL
NOW MOVE OVER TO A B 3 71 BY A
SEMI MEMBER, JOHN SAWYER. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. OKAY FILE ITEM ONE A. B. 371
JONES. BATES. GLASER HERZBERG
HUESO, HER TATO, MELINDA'S AND
ROTH ROTH. AYE. THE BILL HAS
FIVE VOTES AT THIS TIME WILL
CONTINUE TO PUT THAT ON CALL. WE
WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM TWO
A. B 2043 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
JOHN SAWYER, MADAM SECRETARY.
FILE ITEM TO BE 2043. WITH THE
CHAIR VOTING I JONES. SPADES.
GORGEOUS. HERTZBERG. HUESO. HER
TAITO. AND WRATH. WRATH. AYE.
THAT BILL HAS FIVE VOTES WILL
CONTINUE PUT THE BILL ON CAR
WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM FIVE
A. B 21 54 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
COOLEY. MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM FIVE.
MAYBE 2154. WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I JONES. GORGEOUS.
GLASER. HERTZBERG HUESO HER TATO
ROTH ROTH? AYE. THE BILL HAS SIX
VOTES THAT WILL GO ON CALL AGAIN
. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM SIX A
. B 25 68 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
COOLEY. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL FILE ITEM 6 82
568. WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I
JONES. GORGEOUS. GLASER.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG? AYE,
HUESO. HER TAITO, MELINDA'S AND
ROTH. I. THAT BILL HAS SIX VOTES
WILL CONTINUE TO PUT THAT ON
CALL. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO
ITEM EIGHT A B 23 72 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CALDERON. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
FILE ITEM EIGHT A. B 2372 WITH
THE CHAIR VOTING I. JONES.
HERTZBERG HERZBERG? AYE HUESO.
HER TAITO ROTH ROTH. AYE. THAT
BILL HAS NINE VOTES WILL
CONTINUE TO PUT THAT BILL ON
CALL. UH AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE
DONE, MR ROCK. AH WE WILL TAKE A
BRIEF PAUSE TO ALLOW MEMBERS TO
JOIN US.
WE WILL NOW. CONVENE WE WILL NOW
START WITH OUR CONSENT CALENDAR
TO GIVE ABSENT MEMBERS. THE
ABILITY TO VOTE CONSENT
CALENDAR. XABI 16 91 A B 1989 A
B 20 TO 38 A B 24 50 AND A B 26
OR FOUR, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. JONES HERZBERG
HERZBERG. AYE, HUESO. HER TO
TOE. CONSENT CAMERA HAS NIGHT
VOTES WILL CONTINUE TO PUT IT ON
CALL. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO
BUILD A B 3 71 BY JOHN SAWYER'S
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. FILE ITEM ONE A. B 371.
SENATORS JONES. GLASER HERZBERG
HERZBERG. AYE, HUESO. POTATO.
MELINDA'S. THE BILL HAS SIX
VOTES WILL CONTINUE TO PUT IT ON
CALL FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. WE WILL
NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM NUMBER TWO
A. B 2043 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
JOHN SAWYER, MADAM SECRETARY.
FILE ITEM TO A B 2043. THE CHAIR
VOTING I JONES. BATES GORGEOUS.
HERTZBERG HERZBERG? AYE, HUESO.
POTATO. BUT CAN YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ONCE MORE, PLEASE? THIS
IS FOR ITEMS A B 2043. FILE ITEM
TO A B 2043 WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I JONES BATES. GORGEOUS.
HUESO I HEARD TAITO. THE BILL
HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL CONTINUE.
DON'T LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER
TO ITEM NUMBER. FIVE A B 21 54
BY SOME REMEMBER COOLEY. MADAM
SECRETARY. FILE ITEM. 5 82 154
WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I JONES.
GORGEOUS. GLASER. HERTZBERG
HERZBERG? AYE HUESO. WE SAW I
HEARD TATO. THE BILL HAS EIGHT
VOTES. AT THIS TIME. WE WILL
CONTINUE TO PUT THAT ON CALL. WE
WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM 68 B
25 68. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM 6 82
568 WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I
JONES. GORGEOUS GLASER. HUESO WE
SO I HEARD TAITO. MELENDEZ. THE
BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL
CONTINUE. PUT THAT ON COUGH,
PERHAPS, AND MEMBERS. WE WILL
NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT A. B 23 72 SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE WRONG FILE. ITEM
EIGHT. MAYBE 2372 WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I JONES. HUESO WE SO I
HEARD TAITO. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL AGAIN FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT
A. B 23 72 FILE ITEM EIGHT.
MAYBE 2372 WITH THE CHAIR VOTING
I JONES. JONES. I HEARD TATO.
THAT BILL IS OUT 11. WE WILL
NOW. COMMON. YES WE WILL NOW
MOVE BACK TO CONSENT CALENDAR
ONCE AGAIN. UM MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL AND SEND CALENDAR.
JONES. JONES. I HUESO. HUESO. I
HEARD AUTO. CONSENT IS OUT. WE
WILL NOW. MOVE OVER TO ITEM ONE
A. B 3 71 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
JOHN SAWYER. MADAM MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
FILE ITEM ONE A. B 371. WITH THE
CHAIR VOTING I JONES. JONES? NO,
GLASER. HUESO HUESO. I HEARD
TATO MELENDEZ. THAT BILL HAS
SEVEN VOTES WILL CONTINUE TO PUT
THAT ON CALL. A B 371 IS OUT
WITH SEVEN VOTES. WE WILL NOW
MOVE OVER TO ITEM NUMBER TWO A.
B 2043 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER JOHN
SAWYER. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM TO A B
2043. WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I.
JONES JONES NOW. HER THOUGHT
OUT. ONE TO BUILD HAS SEVEN
VOTES. THAT BILL IS OUT. WE WILL
NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM NUMBER
FIVE A. B 21 54 BY A SEMI MEMBER
, COOLEY. MADAM SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM
FIVE D 2154 WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I JONES. NOT VOTING.
GORGEOUS. GLASER. POTATO.
STABILITY IS OUT WITH EIGHT
VOTES. WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A. B 23 72 BY
SOME MEMBER CALDERON. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE WRONG. UM MY APOLOGIES. WE WILL GO
BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX A. B 25
68 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COOLEY.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. FILE ITEMS. SIX A B 2568
WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I. JONES
JONES. I GORGEOUS. GLASER HER
TAITO MELINDA'S. THAT BILL HAS
EIGHT VOTES ENOUGH TO GET OUT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE OVER TO ITEM
EIGHT. A. B 23 72 BY SOME
REMEMBER CALDERON. AND WE HAVE
ALREADY CONCLUDED WITH ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT.
WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR
ATTENDING THE HEARING. WE WANT
TO THANK ALL THOSE THAT
INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATED
REMOTELY AND THOSE THAT WERE
PRESENT HERE TODAY IF YOU WERE
NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY.
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS TO IN WRITING TO THE
COMMITTEE. OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE
. YOUR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. WE
THANK YOU. AND THIS CONCLUDES
THE COMMITTEE ON INSURANCE. WE
ARE ADJOURNED.