IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND IN
RESPECT FOR THE AUTHORS THAT WE
HAVE HERE WE'RE GOING TO START
AS A SUB COMMITTEE. THE SENATE
PUBLIC SAFETY WILL COME TO
ORDER. GOOD MORNING AND AS WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE SIMPLE CAUTIONS
AND MANAGE ONGOING COVID 19
RISKS. THE SENATE CONTINUES TO
WELCOME THE PUBLIC. NOW IT'S
PROVIDED ACCESS TO BOTH IN
PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION. FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR INDIVIDUAL
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, THE
PARTICIPANT, TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE. WILL BE POSTED
ON OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE AND IT
WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN
AND I WILL ANNOUNCE IT NOW.
TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS
844. 2916364 THAT'S 84429163.
AND THE ACCESS CODE IS 1411. 141. THAT'S 141114. I WILL TRY TO
MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THESE
HEARINGS, AS IS CUSTOMARY AND
INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS DISRUPT
DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED FROM
THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE AND
HAVE THEIR SERVICES MUTED. WE'RE
HOLDING THIS MANY HERE IN THE
CAPITOL BUILDING IN ROOM 1 12.
SO UH, I REMEMBER YOU CAN MAKE
THEIR WAY HERE TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. WE CAN BEGIN OUR HEARING
. WE HAVE SIX BUILDS UP ON THE
AGENDA TODAY. ONE BILL, MAYBE 25
51 IS ON CONSENT BY A SIMILAR
MAN. MCCARTHY. AH SO WE DO NOT
HAVE A QUORUM YET, BUT WE DO
HAVE AUTHOR PRESIDENT AND HE'S
READY TO GO. AND THAT'S SIMILAR
GIBSON ON ABC. 16 21. YOU MAY
BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY WHEN READY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIRMAN
BRADFORD AND SENATORS. THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL 16 21, WHICH SEEKS
TO INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY BY
FURTHER RESTRICTING GHOST GUNS.
AND THE PARTS KIT AND KIDS USED
TO BUILD TO BUILD THEM WHILE
PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF LEGAL
GUN OWNERS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BEFORE I BEGIN I WANT
TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS. TO
GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP, CALLING ON THE
LEGISLATURE TO EXPEDITE CRITICAL
LEGISLATION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
TODAY THAT IS NEEDED TO
TACKLING. GUN VIOLENCE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. YOU SEE,
OUR GOVERNOR IS A FATHER. HE'S A
HUSBAND, FIRST AND FOREMOST, BUT
ALSO WANTS TO PROTECT THE
FAMILIES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
OF FAMILIES. UH, THAT ARE PLACED
IN HARM'S WAY AS LONG AS GHOST
GUNS ARE PREVALENT IN OUR
COMMUNITY IN THIS STATE. LIST
JUST LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN
PHILADELPHIA. TEXAS, BUFFALO,
NEW YORK. LAGUNA WOODS,
CALIFORNIA AND THE LIST GOES ON
IF WE DO NOTHING. THESE KINDS OF
SENSELESS ACTS OF VIOLENCE WILL
CONTINUE TO PROLIFERATE. THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WE WANT TO
PROVIDE PROVIDE GOOD, SENSIBLE
GUN LEGISLATION THAT SAVED
PEOPLE'S LIVES. GHOST GUN PARTS
AND KIDS CAN BE ORDERED ONLINE
IN STORES. OR AT A GUN SHOW
WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK. THEY
CAN BE PUT TOGETHER TO FORM A
FULLY FUNCTIONAL FUNCTIONING FAR
ARM IN UNDER A HALF AN HOUR AND
EVEN LESS TIME. THEN IT TOOK
THEM TO BUILD THAT GUN. THEY CAN
GO OUT AND TAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE.
AGAIN. I WANT TO UNDERSCORE.
TAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE. LISTEN WE
CAN'T PLAY AROUND WITH THE
TECHNOLOGY OUR TECHNOLOGY IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AROUND THIS
COUNTRY HAS FAR EXCEEDED OUR
LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY, AND THAT'S
THE PURPOSE FOR THIS.
LEGISLATIVE COMMENTS SINCE
SOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY.
THIS IS WHY GHOST GUNS HAVE
CONTINUED TO LEAD WILDFIRES OF
GUN VIOLENCE IN COMMUNITIES
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES,
ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. JUST IN LOS ANGELES
. LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS RECOVERED
. 1921 GHOST GUNS IN 2000 AND 21
, WHICH WAS MORE THAN DOUBLED.
THE 813 GHOST GUNS RECOVERED IN
2000 AND 20 BEYOND INDIVIDUAL
HOMICIDE. THESE UNTRACEABLE
WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTIONS ARE
ALSO USED. AND MASS SHOOTINGS
ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
AND THIS NATION, FOR EXAMPLE.
DAVID MOYA NAME MAY RING A BELL
UNDER A GHOST, UM, USE A GHOST
GUN TO KILL HIS THREE DAUGHTERS.
LET ME FURTHER ELABORATE. THIS
FATHER DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THIS
FATHER WAS A REGISTERED OWNER
BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE
DONE IN THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY,
UM, WHEN THEIR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
IS PORTRAYED IN A HOME, A GUN IS
TAKEN AWAY. WITH THIS FATHER
DIDN'T STOP HE MADE AT A R 15 IN
SACRAMENTO VISITED HIS DAUGHTERS
, WHICH HAD SUPERVISED
VISITATIONS. WITH HIS VISIT WITH
A SUPERVISOR AND WENT TO A
CHURCH, A PLACE OF WORSHIP. HE
KILLED HIS THREE DAUGHTERS HERE
IN SACRAMENTO AT CHURCH. KILLED
THE SOCIAL WORKER AND TOOK HIS
OWN LIFE SINCE APRIL OF 2000 AND
21 MORE YEAR WAS UNDER A
RESTRAINING ORDER THAT
PROHIBITED HIM FOR POSSESSING
FIREARMS. UM, IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND JUST LAST
WEEKEND. FROM FRIDAY EVENING TO
SUNDAY NIGHT, THERE WERE MORE
THAN A DOZEN MASS SHOOTINGS 13
IN TOTAL ACROSS THE UNITED
STATES, LEAVING A LESS THAN AH,
LESS THAN 17 DEAD AND 69 PEOPLE
WOUNDED. THAT MAKES UP 246 MASS
SHOOTINGS JUST THIS YEAR. UM AS
OF SUNDAY, SENATORS AND TO THOSE
WE REPRESENT. AH, ENOUGH IS
ENOUGH. WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO STOP THE PROLIFERATION
OF GHOST GUNS. ASSEMBLY BILL 16
21 6 TO HALT THE SELL OF
UNFINISHED AND UNTRACEABLE GUN
PARTS. UNTIL AND UNTIL SO LONG
AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
REGULATES THEM. IF PASSED, THIS
BILL WILL GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY
1ST, 2000 AND 23. AND ANYONE IN
POSSESSION OF UNCIVILIZED FAR
ARM WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS. I
WONDER UNDERSCORE SIX MONTHS
FROM THE DATE TO SERIALIZE THOSE
GUNS. THIS BILL HAVE RECEIVED
UNANIMOUS I'M BIPARTISAN SUPPORT
PASSED IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY
WITH 63. YES VOTES AND NO NO
VOTES AND OUR HOUSE JOINING ME
TO PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY
BY PHONE. UM ARE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
? MR ARI CAN PRONOUNCE THE LAST
NAME. SORRY ARI. BUT FROM THE
GIFFORD LAWCENTER ALSO, UM,
SUPPORTING BY PHONE IS MIA. YOU
MAY REMEMBER MSS WHO WAS A
SURVIVOR IN THE 2000 AND 19
SAUGUS HIGH SCHOOL SHOOTING. IN
SANTA CARILLO TO CALIFORNIA
WHERE IT GOES GUN WAS USED, UM,
AFTER LOSING TWO OF HER CLASS
CLASSMATES, ONE OF THEM BEING
HER BEST FRIENDS WAS KILLED IN
THAT SHOOTING, AND SHE'S HERE TO
PROVIDE I'M SUPPORTING
TESTIMONIES. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, MR CHAIR. YOU BEFORE WE
HEAR TESTIMONY FROM EITHER OF
THE WITNESSES, UH, COUNCIL,
LET'S ESTABLISH A QUARTER.
BRADFORD BRADFORD HERE AT COBO
AGCO BOG HERE. KAMLAGER KAMLAGER
HERE, SKINNER WIENER. WE HAVE A
QUORUM IS PRESENT. UH NOW WE'LL
GO TO OUR FREE LICK IS THAT
CORRECT LAST NAME. HELLO. ARI.
ALL RIGHT. MODERATED AND LET'S
GO TO ME A TRAITOR. ARE THEY
MUTED OR WITNESSES? EACH WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES ONCE YOU ON
MUTE. MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE OUR
PRIMARY WITNESSES?
WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON OUR PHONE
LINES, YOUR IS THERE ANYONE HERE
IN ROOM 1 12, WHO WISHES TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT A B 16 21
STATE. YOUR NAME AND YOUR
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS MOIRA
TOP HERE ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO
MAYOR TODD GLORIA AND THE CITY
OF SAN DIEGO AND SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING, JAMIE. MINOR, UM FOR
THOSE STILL UP IN ASSEMBLIES,
PUBLIC SAFETY ONE TO EXTEND OUR
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF EVERY TOWN
AS WELL AS THE BRADY CAMPAIGN
AND THEN GIFFORDS AS WELL. BUT
ARE IS GOING TO TRY AND CALL IN
ONCE WE FIGURED THIS OUT, SO
THANKS SO MUCH. QUÊ NEXT
WITNESS. I'M CASSANDRA WHETSTONE
FROM FOLSOM. I'M A VOLUNTEER
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION, AND I'M
HERE IN SUPPORT OF A B 16 21.
YOU NEXT WITNESS. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS DAN PHYLLIS OTTO ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MODERATE.
HAVE WE FIGURED OUT OUR PHONE
LINES YET? SO DO WE HAVE. EITHER
OF OUR TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT READY I BELIEVE SO. YES.
SORRY. PLEASE GO AHEAD. IT'S
LIKE HERE. CAN BE HEARD RIGHT
NOW. WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU CAN
BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY. YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND ATTENTION TO THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE TODAY. MY NAME
IS ARI FREILICH, POLICY DIRECTOR
FOR DIFFERENT BEGUN LONG
PREVENTION ORGANIZATION LED BY
FORMER CONGRESSMAN ORDERING THEM
BALANCE RIVAL GABBY GIFFORDS. A
RECENT REPORT BY THE GUARDIAN IN
CALIFORNIA STARTED WITH HIS
QUOTE BRIAN MOHAMMED, PROGRAM
MANAGER AT THE VIOLENCE
INTERVENTION GROUP IN CALIFORNIA
. ACTUALLY 15 YEAR OLD BOY HOW
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GETTING GUNS. I
ASSUME THE ANSWER WOULD BE A
NEIGHBORING STATE GUN LAW. STUCK
IN TEAM ABSOLUTELY TOLD HIM WHO
WOULD WITH TIME GOING TO NEVADA
, AND YOU COULD JUST GET THEM TO
MAIL AND PUT IT TOGETHER
YOURSELF. NUMBERS WERE IN THE
MIDST OF A GUN VIOLENCE CRISIS.
WITHIN A SMALL PART BY THE
SEXUAL GIRLS IN COMMUNITIES
ACROSS THE TO HELP ASSEMBLED
GHOST GUNS, ACCOUNTING FOR ONE
THIRD OF ALL GUNS ARE COVERED BY
THE LAPD. INVESTIGATIONS OF
CRIMINAL COULD BE LAST YEAR. 44%
OF THE HOMICIDE CASES IN 2020.
IN THE CRISIS. THAT'S WHY THE
SKILLS IS AND MUST BE A TOUGH
EARLY FROM MY ORGANIZATION AND
MOVEMENT OF LARGE AND GUN
VIOLENCE. THIS LITTLE COMFORT TO
THE NUANCE. IT'S COURT SOMETHING
VERY SIMPLE. THAT TREATS
UNFINISHED FRAMES AND RECEIVERS
OF FARM. THEY'RE DESIGNED AND
MARKETED FOR USE EASILY. THEY'LL
BE GONE. SAME WAY WITH
TREATMENT, SALES OF FIREARMS AND
COMPLETED TRAINS, RECEIVERS AND
FRAME RECEIVERS ORGANIZATION
SINGLE PART OF THE WEAPON THAT
FOR DECADES FEDERAL LAW AND THEN
CALIFORNIA ONES HAVE ALREADY
PUSHED THE SAME REQUIREMENT.
FIELD POSITION MANUFACTURING
COMPLETED FRAMES AND RECEIVERS
COMPLETELY. IN TERMS OF
LEGISLATIVE DRAFTING THIS
SUBSTANCE SIMPLY DEFINING THE
WORD FIREARMS IN OUR CODE TO
INCLUDE THE FRAMEWORK OF THE
WEAPON, TOO. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
KNOW THAT LAW ABIDING HOBBYISTS
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO BUILD
THEIR OWN GUNS THROUGH REGULATED
SERIALIZED COMPONENT. OVER THE
LAST DECADE, FAST EXPLODING
MARKET AND GHOST GUN BUILD KITS
, KEY COMPONENT RECEIVER THAT IS
INTENTIONALLY LEFT JUST AND
FINISHED ENOUGH TO BE 51. THE
PRODUCTS PUBLICITY TO ASSEMBLE
THE WEAPON DESIGNED AND KIDS
FULL OF HUMAN LIFE. AND THAT'S
WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. YEARS AGO,
MY ORGANIZATION IS PROUD TO
EXPLOIT SOMETHING THAT GETS YOU
BILL 80 15 73 PROPOSED
STRAIGHTFORWARD, PERFORM
TREATMENT PRODUCT TO MARKET USED
TO BUILD A GUN THE SAME WAY I
LONGSTREET COMPLETED PRINTS ARE
STUPID. TOM. PERHAPS
OVERWHELMINGLY TO THIS COMMITTEE
AND, UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT
BECOME MORE. PEOPLE TO THINK OF
HOW MANY GOOGLE ACTS OF VIOLENCE
AND IMPUNITY LAW WHO MIGHT HAVE
AVERTED AFTER BECAME MORE
ADVANCED. IT WAS THE RIGHT IDEA.
EVEN MORE. SO NOW THAT
PERFORMANCE AT THE CORE OF WHAT
THE STARBUCKS TODAY AND OTHER
STATES HAVE RECENTLY PASSED
SUBSTANTIALLY. SIMILAR
LEGISLATION IN CALIFORNIA IS THE
CENTER OF THE GHOST IN CRISIS.
AND THEY NEED TO ACT AS MOST
URGENT HERE. KIND OF GETTING
PRETTY STATE BEST LEADERSHIP ON
THIS ISSUE. POLITICAL SENATORS
PASSAGE PRIVATE EDUCATION. NOW
WE'LL MOVE TO MIA TRADER. HI.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN
HEAR YOU. MY NAME IS MIA. TRY TO
NOVEMBER 14TH 2019. I WAS A
FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. BIGGEST
STORY OF THAT DAY WITH THE
SPANISH TEST. BUT WHEN I GOT TO
SCHOOL AND THEN A BEELINE TO THE
CHOIR TO SEE MY BEST FRIEND
DOMINIC BLACKWELL. UNFORTUNATELY
OUR TYPICAL MORNING LAST SESSION
ELIZABETH INTERRUPTED BY THE
SOUND OF A GUNSHOT. SIX MORE ONE
OF THOSE SHOTS HIT ME IN THE
STOMACH. I WAS AIRLIFTED FROM
SCHOOL TO AN EMERGENCY SURGERY
TO REMOVE A BULLET THAT WAS
MILLIMETERS AWAY FROM KILLING
ME. AND THEN I WOKE UP INTO A
NEW REALITY. ONE WORD, DOMINIC,
MY BACKSIDE AND ANOTHER
CLASSMATES. GRACIE AND WILBERGER
WAS NO LONGER ALIVE. I LITERALLY
HAVE BEEN SHOPPING 16 YEAR OLD
DOGGY STUDENTS. HE BROUGHT HIS
FATHER'S GUN TO SCHOOL, A
FIREARM. I WOULD EVENTUALLY COME
TO KNOW THAT THE GHOST GUN AND
QUICKLY LEARNING THESE UNMARKED
UNTRACEABLE BUILD IT YOURSELF
FIREARMS WERE THE FASTEST
GROWING STATE PUBLIC SAFETY
THREAT IN OUR COUNTRY. ANYONE
WITH A CREDIT CARD, AND IT FEELS
TO BUILD A K A FURNITURE. THIS
IS THEIR TIME TO MAKE THE SAME
GUN THAT TOOK THE LIVES OF TWO
OF MY CLASSMATES AND CHANGED MY
FOREVER. BECAUSE OF THAT THESE
WEAPONS WERE ONCE SEEN AS THE
WEAPON OF CHOICE BY TERRORISTS
AND CRIMINALS. IS NOW STARTING
TO SHOW UP IN THE HANDS OF
CHILDREN AND TEENS IN SCHOOL
SHOOTINGS LIKE MINE. THE RISE OF
HAS DEVASTATED COMMUNITIES AND
FAMILIES AND, ACCORDING TO THE
PARTS DEPARTMENT, JUSTICE AND
LAW ENFORCEMENT RECOVERED NEARLY
20,000 SUSPECTED GHOST GUNS LAST
YEAR ALONE. PARTY UNFORTUNATELY
, HAS BECOME AN EPICENTER FOR
THESE TYPES OF GUNS. IN LOS
ANGELES, THE NUMBER OF GHOSTS
AND RECOVERED FROM CRIME SCENES
HAS RISEN APPROXIMATELY 400%
SINCE 2017. WE NEED
COMPREHENSIVE ACTION ON GHOST
GUNS AT EVERY LEVEL. TO PREVENT
MORE TRAGEDIES LIKE THE ONE I
EXPERIENCE. A B 16 21 WOULD DO
JUST THAT AND FORBID GHOST GUNS
WITHOUT STERILIZATION AND ENSURE
THAT THOSE ALREADY IN
CIRCULATION WILL BE PROPERLY
SERIALIZED. YOU CANNOT PASS THE
BACKGROUND CHECK. NORMALLY YOU
HAVE NO BUSINESS ONLY A KILLING
MACHINE. WE DESERVE TO LIVE IN A
STATE THAT PRIORITIZES OUR
SAFETY UNLESS IT BE KIDS. SO LET
US BE SAFE. NOW IS THE TIME TO
ACT. DO NOT LOOK AWAY VOTES?
YES, ON 80 16 21. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL BRING
IT BACK TO ROOM 12-1 12 AGAIN.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE WISHING TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF A B 16
21? TINA. NOW MODERATOR WILL GO
TO OUR PHONE LINES AND, UH, SEE
IF THERE ARE ANY WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT OF 16 21. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
A B 16 21, PLEASE PRESS 10 AND
YOUR PHONE AT THIS TIME. AND
FIRST WE HAVE LINE 23, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MONNING TURN MEMBERS, NOT
ONLY COOPER NIELSON MARKS MORE
ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF SAN
DIEGO IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS AND NEXT
NEXT YEAR. KLEIN 30, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
SYLVIA SALAS SHAH ON BEHALF OF
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 24,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JULIA. DOWN LOW. I'M
A MEMBER OF WOMEN FOR AMERICAN
VALUES AND AFFECTS A LEGAL GUN
OWNER AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, A
MOTHER. AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
ALL SIX BILLS ON THE AGENDA
TODAY STRONGLY SUPPORTING A B 16
21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUÊ
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 32, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS JIM
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
IN CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. FIELD LINE. 40 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. SHARON
MEMBERS WHO'VE CALLED HOLLY ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LUMP EACH
AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT
TIME WE HAVE LINE 29, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MORNING. THANK YOU. 29,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. TO MOVE ON.
NEXT. WE HAVE LINES 26, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
VIPER VENOM FROM WOMEN FOR
AMERICAN VALUES AND ETHICS,
CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A B
16 21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
WEEK OF LINE. 35, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI THIS IS LISA GASCONY.
I'M A PARENT IN NEWPORT BEACH
AND A FOUNDING MEMBER OF WOMEN
FOR AMERICAN VALUES AND ETHICS,
AND I ALSO STRONGLY SUPPORT A B
16 21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 15, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS JULIE
HENNIG. AND I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION FOR GUN
SENSE. CALLING IN SUPPORT OF A B
16 21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE LINES. 16, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS CLAIRE
SANCTION THAT FROM OAKLAND. I'M
A GUN, VIOLENCE SURVIVOR AND
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION FOR GUNSON AND I'M
CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
A B 16 21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 31, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. CHRIS MEYERS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL AND
ASSOCIATION AND TRUMP'S SUPPORT.
NEXT WE HAVE LINE 29, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL
BUTTON. YES. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MORNING. GO AHEAD. 9 29. WE
HEARD YOU SAY GOOD MORNING. YEAH
GOOD MORNING, PETER STEIN FROM
WOMEN FOR AMERICAN VALUES AND
ETHICS. STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF
ALL OF THE BILLS. AND IN
PARTICULAR A B 16 21. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT
IS EVERYONE I HAVE. THANK YOU.
OKAY? NOW WE'RE MOVING TO
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES LISTED IN OPPOSITION.
WE HAVE RICK TRAVIS. AND WE HAVE
DAN REED WILL AFFORD THEM EACH
TWO MINUTES EACH TO MAKE THEIR
TESTIMONY SO. YOU KNOW WHO'S
READY? YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR
TESTIMONY, YOU HEARING ROOM 1
12. YEAH GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN CENTERS FOR THE RECORD
. RICK TRAVIS, DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
LIFELINE SISTERS ASSOCIATION
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR
MEMBERS TO SPEAK FROM STRONG
OPPOSITION TO SOME RESULTS. 16
21 AND WAS THIS PROCESS OF WHO
IS THIS? WE HAVE WE HAVE TRAVIS
AND WE HAVE DAN REED TO WHO WHO
WAS TESTIFYING NOW? THIS IS RICK
TRAVIS. OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR
NAME. OKAY, LET'S GO. WORK AND
STRONG OPPOSITION TO DISPEL
WHICH CONCEPT OF BEARING THE
LEGAL MARK ELASTIC SYSTEMS TO
BUILD FIREARMS AND TRADITIONAL
AMERICANS OF THE JOINT
INFORMATION WAS FOUNDED. WE ALL
WANT TO SEE THE PUBLICLY KEPT
SAFE AND WE ALL MOURNED THE
TRAGIC JOKE WE CAN TO STOP THEM
FROM EVER OCCURRING AGAIN ARE
CONCERNED WITH THIS CELL IS
CURRENTLY THE REGULATIONS OF
SCIENTISTS. CALIFORNIA DOJ
DAUNTING AND THAT IS OR IS
STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH THE
TAX CURRENTLY ASSIGNED BY OUR
LEGISLATURE FROM TRACKING
FIREARMS PURCHASES. PURCHASERS
BACKGROUND CHECKS THE SAME THING
NOW FOR INFORMATION PURCHASES
AND PURCHASERS. AND A B 8 79 IS
INFINITE. IN 2025 DOJ WILL BE
CAST, ACCORDING TO NUMBER OF
TRANSACTIONS AS FIREARMS ARE
MADE OF CLEARLY DOZENS APART NOW
AS THE LIST OF RESPONSIBILITIES
OF PATROLLING THEMSELVES ALL
OVER THE PLACE FOR PARTS.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN CLEARLY
DEFINED. ALL OF US WANT THE LIST
OF OVER 2000 KNOWN ARTHUR
FILLING. CONTINUES TO GROW. WE
THINK TASKING WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WITH MORE
RESPONSIBILITY WILL NOT LEAVE
SHALL INCREASE IN PUBLIC SAFETY,
BUT QUITE POSSIBLY THE OPPOSITE.
IT WILL ALSO RESULT IN
MINISTERING, COSTLY WALTZES AND
COUNTS DOJ WITH EVEN MORE
UNNECESSARY TIMES INSTRUMENT
LANDING. IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL
RESTRICTION UNLAWFUL CONDUCT. 15
CALIFORNIA VERY FOUNDATION OF
ORGANIZATION FROM 147 YEARS. IN
FACT, CONSISTENT GOAL TO WORK
TOWARDS COME SINCE SOLUTIONS
REGARDING THE ISSUE OF CRIME AND
FIREARMS OWNERSHIP COMES DOWN
HARDER WITHOUT SACRIFICING ALL
RIGHT. FOREGOING RECENT CR
PERIOD, THE N R A AND THEN OF
THE CALIFORNIA STANDING STRONG
OPPOSITION TO A B 16 21 AND
STRONGLY URGED A NO VOTE. THANK
YOU. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO 10 READ.
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD. DAN
REED, WESTERN REGIONAL DIRECTOR
WITH THE NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION. ALL ECHO THE
COMMENTS OF MR TRAVIS ON THE
PHONE. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE
AT A POINT, AS WAS MENTIONED
THAT 88 79 HASN'T EVEN BEEN
FULLY IMPLEMENTED. AND YET HERE
WE ARE MOVING THE GOALPOSTS
AGAIN. BEING A GUN OWNER IN
CALIFORNIA IS INCREDIBLY
DIFFICULT. IS WITH THE HUNDREDS
OF LAWS REGULATIONS. AND JUST
GETTING CLEAR ANSWERS AND AS WE
MERGE INTO THIS AREA OF
PRECURSOR PARTS THAT AREN'T
REGULATED LIKE FIREARMS
ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, BUT
NOW WE'RE TREATING THEM LIKE
SUCH WHERE YOU COULD BE FACING
CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR SIMPLE
PARTS. THAT SOMETIMES YOU MAY
HAVE AN EXISTING FIREARM AND YOU
MAY SWAP OUT APART DOES THAT NOW
BECOME A PRECURSOR PART? HOW DO
YOU HOW DO YOU COMPLY WITH THIS?
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE OUT
OF STATE IF SOMETHING BREAKS
DOWN AND SO I THINK THE FOCUS
THAT WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM IS
THIS THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE
COMPLYING WITH EXISTING LAWS
THAT ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD
PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ENGAGED IN
CRIMINAL ACTS AND ACTUALLY GO
AFTER THOSE BAD CRIMINAL ACTORS.
ALSO THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN
THIS LEGISLATION REGARDING CNC
MACHINES, UM, AND BANNING THEM
WHEN THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION IS
TO MANUFACTURE FIREARMS. I'M NOT
SURE HOW THAT IS GOING TO BE
IMPLEMENTED. HOW YOU DETERMINE
THAT, ETCETERA. THERE'S A NUMBER
OF OTHER THINGS THAT I KNOW OUR
TIME IS LIMITED. BUT WITH THAT
WERE IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NOW. ARE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION HERE IN ROOM 1 12,
YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME IN YOUR
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. YEAH.
REMEMBER SAM PAREDES,
REPRESENTING GUN OWNERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG OPPOSITION
TO THIS MISGUIDED BILL. THANK
YOU. SEEING NO ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE, MODERATOR. WE
NOW GO TO THE PHONE LINE. THERE
ARE WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION OF
E V. 16 21. NOW IS THE TIME.
JUST THANK YOU TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF A B 16 21, PLEASE
PRESS 10 ON YOUR PHONE. AND
FIRST WE WILL GO TO LINE 36.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS STEVE ROTTERDAM WITH
THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION, THE NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION. U S NAVY VETERAN
AND I STRONGLY URGE OPPOSITION
TO A B 16 21. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. NEXT WITNESS NEXT WEEK OF
LINE 38, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS JAMES O'BRIEN, LIFELONG
CALIFORNIA RESIDENT MEMBER OF
DURING A C. R C A STRONGLY IN
OPPOSITION OF A B 15 21. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
NEXT, WE HAVE LINE 34, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
CHARLIE ELLIS. I'M A MEMBER OF
THE CRP TO THE N R A. D. C
PROJECT. WOMEN FOR GUN RIGHTS
ARE GOING LITTLE PETTITTE PENCIL
SHOOTER. AND STRONGLY OPPOSED.
15 21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE LINE 33, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I GOOD MORNING. MY NAME
IS DARREN BEDWELL. I'M RESIDENT
HERE IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY MEMBER
OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND
PISTOL ASSOCIATION AND A FIREARM
HOBBYISTS AND I AMVERY STRONGLY
A B 16 21. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LINE 22,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHAIR OF THIS
MAN ON THE CHAIR OF THE SOUTH
SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION, AND THEN REMEMBER
IN STRONG OPPOSITION. CUTE. NEXT
WE HAVE LINE 44, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MM. HI MY NAME IS CARRIE
HUME. I'M AN NRA MEMBER AND CRP
A MEMBER AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO SELF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE LINE 42, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
MIKE ELLIOTT. I AM A MEMBER OF
THE NRA, CALIFORNIA RIFLE PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND THE VENTURA
COUNTY GUN OWNERS CHAPTER OF THE
R P A. I STRONGLY OPPOSED A B 16
TO 1. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE
LINE 41, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I DID
. MORNING TELEPRESENCE RETIRED
ON FIRST MET CURRAN COUNTY. UM
AND STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LINED 43,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS MIKE
MARENCO. I'M A LICENSED FIREARMS
DEALER AND IRVINE AND A MEMBER
OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
ASSOCIATION. I CAN TELL YOU THIS
STORE WILL BE A REGULATORY
NIGHTMARE. THANK YOU. AND THAT
WAS THE LAST SIGN IN QUÊ.
ALRIGHT AFTER HEARING FROM BOTH
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION. NOW
WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE AND ANY QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS. THE COMMITTEE. YES
CENTER OR TO A BOOK. THANK YOU.
SORRY. UM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SOMEONE MEMBER GIBSON, TOO. FOR
BRINGING THIS MEASURE FORWARD. I
HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'M
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. A VERY
COMPLICATED YOU KNOW SPACE AND
WE HAVE SO MANY LAWS AND TRYING
TO GET MY HEAD AROUND ALL OF US
AND TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
UM MY QUESTION IS WITH REGARDS
TO YOUR THOUGHT. AND WHY PEOPLE
WHO ARE HOBBYIST. IN THIS SPACE
PEOPLE WHO, UM BUY PARTS AND YOU
KNOW THEY BUILT I GUESS I D
BUILD GUNS AND BY THIS ESSENTIAL
PARTS, WHY YOU FEEL THAT THEY
WOULD BE OPPOSING UM THIS BILL,
WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT WOULD BE THE
CONTEXT OF THEIR OF THEIR
OPPOSITION TO THIS? SURE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR. I'M NOT
SURE OTHER THAN WHAT WE FOUND
THAT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE NO
PROBLEM WITH COMPLYING ONCE
THERE IS A LAW. THAT COMMISSION
TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW. LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS ARE THE ONES
WHO WILL COMPLY. THOSE HOBBYISTS
. THOSE GUNS ENTHUSIASTS? YES
THAT'S ANOTHER HURDLE IT MAYBE
ANOTHER INCONVENIENCE AND MAYBE
ANOTHER FIVE. THOSE NOT THE
PEOPLE WERE SEEKING THE PEOPLE
WHO WERE SEEKING AS THE PEOPLE
WHO WHO WISHES TO METHODICALLY
STRATEGICALLY EVADE THE LAW. THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD MAKE THIS
AND DO WHAT TRANSPIRED IN TEXAS
DO WHAT TRANSPIRED IN BUFFALO,
NEW YORK. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE
THAT WE WANT TO REDUCE ACCESS TO
GHOST GUNS AND OTHER GUNS IN
THIS COUNTRY IN THIS STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. UM AND SO I DON'T
KNOW WHY. BUT AGAIN, GUN
ENTHUSIAST HAS THE TIME TO
SERIALIZE THEIR GUNS IF THEY
MAKE GUNS AS A SIX MONTH WINDOW
PERIOD. THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GO
AND GET THEIR GUNS SERIALIZED,
SO THEY WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAW
AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS AGAIN.
THOSE ARE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
WHO WOULD DO JUST THAT. THEY
WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAW. ONCE
PAST THE SCIENCE INTO LAW, THEY
WILL BE NOTIFIED THEY WILL
COMPLY AND GET IT DONE, BUT IT'S
NOT THE PEOPLE. IT'S NOT THOSE
INDIVIDUALS. THIS LEGISLATION IS
SEEKING. THIS LEGISLATION IS
TARGETING THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO
WANT TO DO CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE.
WANT TO GO AND TAKE PEOPLE'S
LIVES WANT TO AVOID LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE? THAT'S
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION AND IF OTHER STATES
HAD SIMILAR LAWS THAN POSSIBLY,
WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE OF LATE
WILL NOT HAPPEN. IN THOSE
STATES. SO THEN MY FOLLOW UP
QUESTION WOULD BE FIRST OF ALL.
THOSE HOBBYISTS AND ENTHUSIASTS
THAT YOU DESCRIBE THERE ARE
PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE LAW
ABIDING. THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW
PROCESS. EVERY LAW THAT'S GOING
THROUGH. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY
DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. SO MY
QUESTION THEY WOULD GO AND
VARIOUS ACTOR WOULD NOT. ABIDE
BY THIS LAW. HE SAID. I'M SORRY.
SO AND THE VARIOUS ACTOR ONE WHO
WISHES TO CAUSE HARM WOULD NOT
FOLLOW THROUGH THIS THROUGH THIS
PIECE OF LIFE. THEY WOULDN'T
FOLLOW WHAT IS INTENDED OR
REQUIRED UNDER THIS BILL. SO MY
QUESTION WOULD BE HOW WOULD
PASSING THIS BILL? UM CURB THOSE
NEFARIOUS ACTORS FROM DOING THE
FERIA SACKED. I WAS SIMPLY SAY
WITHOUT THIS BILL. THEN THERE
WILL BE A GREEN LIGHT FOR PEOPLE
TO MAKE THESE UNTRACEABLE. GUNS
THAT HAS CONTINUED TO
PROLIFERATE OUR COMMUNITY.
WITHOUT THIS LAW, WE WILL HAVE
MASS SHOOTINGS BECAUSE PEOPLE
WILL WHO ARE PROHIBITED
INDIVIDUALS, PEOPLE WHO THROUGH
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND A GUN AND
GUNS ARE TAKEN AWAY AND WE'LL
FIND WAYS JUST AS MR MOYER DID,
WHO WAS A FATHER OF THREE
DAUGHTERS? WHO WAS PROHIBITED
WHO GUN WAS TAKEN AWAY WHO MADE
WHO MADE UNDERSCORE? MADE A R
15. WENT TO CHURCH HERE IN
SACRAMENTO. AND USE THAT A R 15
TO TAKE THESE PRECIOUS DAUGHTERS
LIVES AWAY, INCLUDING THE
SUPERVISOR WHO SUPERVISED HIS
VISIT AND THEN TAKE HIS OWN
LIFE. RIGHT AND SO AS WE PUT
THESE ROADBLOCKS IN THE WAY OF
PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE GUNS.
WE HOPE THAT IT WILL DISCOURAGE
THEM AND HOPE THAT THEY WON'T
EVEN GO OUT AND DO THE THINGS
THEY SEEKING TO DO. BUT WITHOUT
THESE LAWS, THEN IT'S A FREE FOR
ALL. UM AND WE'RE NOT THE WILD
WILD WEST. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN
THE WEST. WE'RE NOT THE WILD,
WILD WEST. WE HAVE TO HAVE LAWS.
UM AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE
RESPECT THESE LAWS IN ORDER TO
SAVE LIVES. AND I'M COMPLETELY
IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. I'M A MOM
OF THREE KIDS AND I HAVE ONE.
WELL, THERE ARE ACTUALLY ALL IN
SCHOOL STILL, BUT, UM, SO I
COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT I'M
JUST TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND ONE HOW DO YOU AND
FORCE THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION
WITH NEFARIOUS ACTORS IF THEY'RE
GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT LETTING
ANYBODY KNOW THAT THEY'RE
ACTUALLY BUILDING THEM? UM,
RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW IF
PEOPLE THAT ARE LAW ABIDING ARE
GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW. WE
PASSED THIS BILL. THEY WILL
FOLLOW THE LAW, BUT THOSE THAT
ARE NOT AH, THEY'RE NOT HAVING
TEND TO FOLLOW THE LAW OR A
NEFARIOUS IN IN MIND AND ACT. UM
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THIS
BILL. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU
WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS
BILL, HOW DO WE HOW DID THE
AUTHORITIES OR THOSE THAT THE
POWERS THAT BE? HOW DO WE AND
FORCED IT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS
THAT ARE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW
THIS ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
BUILD THESE THESE GUNS FOR
NEFARIOUS. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT THAT THAT CONNECTION FOR
THOSE PEOPLE LIKE HOW DO YOU
CATCH THEM, I GUESS IS THE BEST
THAT I CAN THINK OF, RIGHT? IT'S
NO DIFFERENT FROM US HAVING A
LOT. YOU CANNOT RUN A RED LIGHT
. WE'RE GOING TO STILL HAVE
PEOPLE RUNNING RED LIGHTS, BUT
WITHOUT WITHOUT THEIR RED LIGHT
WILL HAVE. ANARCHY WILL HAVE
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE INJURED AND
ALSO KILLED. AND WITH THIS BILL
, WE HOPE THAT IT WILL LIMIT
THOSE KINDS OF INCIDENTS FROM
TAKING PLACE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
ALWAYS WE'RE GONNA ALWAYS HAVE
PEOPLE WHO WILL SEEK TO AVOID
THE LAW. GET UP, GO AROUND THE
LAW AND THAT THERE WILL BE SOME
LAWYER. ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE,
WHO WILL TRY TO FIND A LOOPHOLE
IN THE LAW THAT WILL CHALLENGE
THIS IN COURT OR MAKE IT
PERMISSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE
IT OR EVEN MODIFY? THE REASON
WHY WE HAVE THIS IS BECAUSE, UH
, THERE IS WAYS TO MODIFY GUNS
WHO WOULD MAKE IT LEGAL AND THEN
WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A LAW
BECAUSE THAT LEGAL UM,
DESCRIPTION OR LOOPHOLE HAS
PERMITTED SOMEONE TO HAVE SUCH A
GUN OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THEN
WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A LAW
THAT WILL SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE
PROLIFERATION OR INCREASE OF
THOSE DANGEROUS WEAPONS ARE NOW
, UM, EVADING THE LAW OF FINDING
A LOOPHOLE AND GOING AROUND THE
LAW IN ORDER FOR INDIVIDUAL TO
HAVE THESE KINDS OF GUNS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION. IS THE SAME REASON
WHY DO WE NEED TO HAVE A AR 15
AK 40 SEVENS? UM HOW? HOW MANY
DEERS CAN WE SHOOT AT ONE TIME,
RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO DO
EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN UM RIGHT
NOW IN IN THIS IN THIS CENTURY
IN HIS MODERN DAY TECHNOLOGY TO
DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO
SAVE LIVES AND AGAIN, I JUST
POINT TO THE EXAMPLES THAT HAS
JUST TAKEN PLACE WITHIN THE LAST
MONTH. ALL THE TRAGEDY AROUND
THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, WHERE A GENTLEMAN
WHO HAD A MENTAL ILLNESS WHO
WENT TO A CHURCH. UM, UM, KILLED
A DOCTOR. UM AND OTHERS. UM AND
WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE REDUCE THOSE KINDS OF
INCIDENTS FROM TAKING PLACE IN
OUR COUNTRY IN THE STATE, AND I
THINK THE CALIFORNIA CERTAINLY
COULD BE A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER
STATES TO FOLLOW. AND I
UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. I THINK
WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WHEN
IT COMES TO THAT. I'M JUST IT'S
HARD FOR ME TO SEE HOW A
NEFARIOUS ACTOR IS GOING TO OBEY
THE LAW. OR HOW WE'RE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO
CATCH SOMEONE. UM AT THE TIME
WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING SOMETHING
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALREADY
ILLEGAL GHOST GUNS ARE ILLEGAL.
AND SO THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD
THAT'S THERE. WHAT? I'M TRYING
TO JUST KIND OF REASON MY HEAD
IS HOW DO WE CATCH SOMEONE THAT
IS WILLING AND TRYING TO BREAK
THE LAW? AND WHEN THEY'RE
ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW. AND SO
WE'RE JUST. I DON'T WANT US TO
BE STEPPING ARE BUILDING MORE
AND MORE MORE LAWS WITHOUT THE
ABILITY TO OR THE CAPACITY TO
CATCH SOMEONE AT THAT TIME
UNLESS WE WERE WAS THAT TOM
CRUISE MOVIE WHERE THEY KNEW
WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO IN THE
FUTURE. OH, YEAH. MINORITY
REPORT MINORITY REPORT. I MEAN,
WERE YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO ESPECIALLY THE NEFARIOUS
ACTORS DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY
LAWS WE HAVE. HOW DO WE CATCH
THEM? HOW DO WE HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO DO THAT AT THE TIME,
EVEN IF THIS PASSES WHICH YOU
KNOW SURE IT WILL. BUT WE HAVE
TO DO SOMETHING, SENATOR AGREE.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE TO DO AND I'M
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE
BEST HOW DO WE BEST CATCH THEM?
UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME
BECAUSE IF THEIR NEFARIOUS IF
THEY WANT TO BREAK THE LAW IF
THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING AWFUL.
HOW DO WE CATCH THEM? AND I
THINK THE ANSWER AGAIN TO THAT
QUESTION. A STEP FURTHER IS
ARMING LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE
WITH THE LAW THAT'S BEHIND THEM
THAT THEY WILL BE INVESTED IN.
TO MAKING SURE THAT IF SOMEONE
IS SEEN WITH SUCH PARTS, THEN
THAT'S A RED FLAG. UM AND THEN
THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND THEY
CAN MAKE AN ARREST OR SO FORTH.
BUT ABSENT THAT, UH, WE JUST
LEAVE WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED ALL
OVER OUR COUNTRY. TO CONTINUE TO
HAPPEN, AND I CAN'T GET USED TO
THAT. I CAN'T GET USED TO THE
NEWS. I CAN'T GET USED TO
WATCHING 19 BABIES WITH
SUPERHERO CASKETS BEING LOWERED
INTO THE GROUND. I CAN'T GET
USED TO THAT IN THE COMMUNITY IN
WHICH I REPRESENT. IT'S A
REALITY. IT'S A REALITY. I WAS
OUTSIDE A FEW WEEKS A FEW FEW
DAYS AGO AND GUNFIRE. JUST A FEW
BLOCKS FROM FROM WHERE I WAS
STANDING. I CAN'T GET USED TO
THAT. SO WE HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE REDUCE THOSE KINDS
OF INCIDENTS FROM HAPPENING IN
ORDER TO SAVE LIVES. AND I THINK
16 21. HELPS GET US AND MOVE US
IN THAT DIRECTION. THANK YOU.
VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU. GREAT
ADDITIONAL QUESTION. SENATOR
SKINNER. THANK YOU. BILL HAS
BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY SENATOR
SKINNER. SIMILAR AND GIBSON
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIRMAN
AND SENATORS. ONE OF THE CALLERS
TALKED ABOUT MISGUIDED BILL AND
I WOULD SAY THAT THIS BILL IS
VERY THOUGHTFUL BILL, AND IT'S
VERY FOCUSED BILL AND IT'S A
VERY DELIBERATE BILL. UM, ONE OF
OUR IN PERSON. INDIVIDUALS
TALKED ABOUT A NIGHTMARE. THE
NIGHTMARE IS AGAIN WHAT I
DESCRIBED WHAT TRANSPIRED IN
TEXAS, UM AND BUFFALO, NEW YORK
AND CALIFORNIA, PHILADELPHIA.
THAT'S THE NIGHTMARE THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
STOPPED FROM TAKING PLACE. I
WANT TO THANK MOM DEMAND
ACTIONS. EVERY TOWN, GIFFORD AND
THE WITNESSES THAT PROVIDE THEIR
TESTIMONIES IN PERSON AND THOSE
WHO TESTIFIED ON OUR PHONE LINES
. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE
FAMILIES WHO ARE STILL MOURNING
THE LOSS OF THEIR LOVED ONES DUE
TO SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE. FOR
THE FRIENDS WHO LOST THEIR, UM
THEIR OWN CHILDHOOD FRIENDS AND
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM BOTH THAT
THEY GREW UP WITHIN A COMMUNITY
. IT IS IMPORTANT. THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STILL
MOURNING THE LOSS OF LOVED ONES
AND FRIENDS DUE TO SENSELESS
TRAGEDY THAT'S TAKEN PLACE. ALL
OVER, NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY
INSTEAD OF CALIFORNIA, BUT ALL
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THAT WE STEP
UP AND REALLY BE BOLD AND DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT. DOING
NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION FOR ME
DOING SOMETHING THAT'S POSITIVE
. THAT'S THOUGHTFUL. THAT'S WELL
THOUGHT OUT THIS MEANINGFUL THAT
DOES EVERYTHING IT CAN TO SAVE
LIVES. IT'S IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
WHAT I VOTE ON 16 21. AND THANK
THIS COMMITTEE FOR ITS TIME.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND
DO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
CONSULTANT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
AND FIRELIGHT. I WANT TV 16 21.
MAYBE 16 21 BRADFORD PHð VOGUE.
SHOWBOAT, NOT VOTING. KAMLAGER
SKINNER. SKINNER, I WIENER.
THANK YOU. THE WORLD OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MR
GIBSON. AND CAN WE GET A MOTION
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR A B. 25
51. BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR JOE
BUCK. MAYBE 2551 CONSENT
CALENDAR. BRADFORD DIA KOBO KOBO
GUY KAMLAGER SKINNER. DINNER. I
WIENER. THE MEASURE HAS THREE
VOTES WILL LEAD THE WORLD OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON
KNOX. WE'RE MOVING ON TO WELL
ITEM TO A B 17 69 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. HE IS
PREPARED, READY TO GO. YOU MAY
BEGIN WHEN READY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MR CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS
, A B 17 69 SEEKS TO PROHIBIT
THE SALE OF FIREARMS. FIREARM
FOR KURT, PROCURE ACCUSER, PARTS
AND AMMUNITION AT THE VENTURA
COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS. I THINK THE
RECENT EVENTS IN THE TESTIMONY
THAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM MY
COLLEAGUE ON HIS BILL 16 21,
SHOW US HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT
WE DO ALL WE CAN TO TRY TO END
THE TARIFF AERATION OF GUNS AND
THE PROMOTION OF THE GUN CULTURE
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES TO PUT
A FINER POINT ON IT IN 2020
FIREARMS SURPASSED AUTO
ACCIDENTS AS A LEADING CAUSE OF
DEATH FOR CHILDREN BETWEEN AGES.
ONE THROUGH 19 YEARS OF AGE. AND
IF THE LEGISLATURE CAN'T DO ALL
IT CAN TO ADDRESS THE LEADING
CAUSE OF DEATH OF THEIR YOUTH
BETWEEN AGES ONE AND 19. WE ARE
IN A SAD STATE. THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE ATTEND GUNSHOWS HELD EACH
YEAR, CONTRIBUTING TO A GROWING
CULTURE, GUN CULTURE. IT
CORRELATES TO THE RISING GUN
VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THE
MAJORITY OF THE PARENTS IN MY
DISTRICT WANT TO DECREASE THE
PRESENCE OF A GUN CULTURE IN OUR
COMMUNITY? THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS OF VENTURA COUNTY,
REPRESENTING THE MAJORITY OF THE
RESIDENTS OF VENTURA COUNTY
ASKED US TO TAKE THIS ACTION A B
17 61 IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL
THE PROBLEMS, BUT IT'S ONE STEP
THAT WE ASK YOU TO LET US DO IN
OUR COMMUNITY OF VENTURA COUNTY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
EYES. YOU HAVE NO LEAD WITNESSES
LISTED. IS THERE ANY AND SUPPORT
HERE IN THE ROOM? SEEN ON
MODERATOR CAN WE GO ON TO THE
PHONE LINES OR ARE THERE ANY
LISTED AS OR WISHING TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT? TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT OF A B 17 69, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO ON YOUR
PHONE. AND FIRST WE HAVE LINE
28, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR MEMBERS. THIS
IS ELIZABETH ESPINOSA ON BEHALF
OF THE VENTURE COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
. BENNETT INDICATED THE BOARD IS
VERY SUPPORTIVE AND HAS, UM FOR
SEVERAL YEARS. RUNNING
IDENTIFIED THE ELIMINATION OF
GUN SHOWS ON THE VENTURA COUNTY
FAIRGROUNDS AS A HIGH PRIORITY.
WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HIS
LEADERSHIP AND ENCOURAGE HER. I
VOTE ON THIS, BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WAY
OF LINE. 26, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. THIS IS VIPER
VENOM, WITH WOMEN FOR AMERICAN
VALUES AND ETHICS, CALLING IN
STRONG SUPPORT AT THIS STUFF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE
HAVE ONE MORE. THEY'RE JUST
GETTING THEIR LINE NUMBER.
THANK YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE LINE.
37. PLEASE GO AHEAD. 9 37,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OH OKAY. MY
NAME IS KAREN PETERS AND I'M CO
CHAPTER LEADER OF THE VENTURE, A
COUNTY CHAPTER OF BRADY UNITED
ICE URGED YOU TO VOTE YES, ON A
B 17 69. THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
TRYING FOR OVER FOUR YEARS TO
GET THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR THE
STUFF. THE GUNSHOTS. PLEASE
SUPPORT A B 17 69. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS. NET WAS ALL OF
HER. ARE PEOPLE IN. Q WAIT NEXT
WE HAVE ONE MORE IN LINE 24.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JULIA HEMLO, MEMBER
OF WOMEN FOR AMERICAN VALUES AND
ETHICS AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT A
B 17 69. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MODERATOR OR OTHER EVERYONE WE
HAVE. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE IN Q
AND SUPPORT, OKAY? NOW WE'LL
MOVE TO OPPOSITION. WE HAVE TWO
PRIMARY WITNESSES LISTED IN
OFFICE POSITION. WE ARE RICK
TRAVIS AGAIN, AND WE HAVE DAN
RICCIO WILL. GO TO MR READS AND
SHE'S HARD TO TRY THAT TWO
PODIUM THERE. SURE GO RIGHT
AHEAD. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
FOR THE RECORD. DAN REED,
WESTERN REGIONAL DIRECTOR WITH
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE HERE IN STRONG OPPOSITION
TO A B 17 69. THIS IS PART OF
THE TREND THAT WE'VE SEEN OF
ATTACKS ON ON GUN SHOWS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. IN FACT, WE
WERE JUST UP IN THE ASSEMBLY
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HEARING
A BILL BANNING GUN SHOWS ON ALL
STATE PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND WHAT
I WANT EVERYONE TO KEEP IN MIND.
WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT THIS GUN
SHOW LOOPHOLE, BUT GUN SHOWS IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA ARE NO
DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PLACE.
ALL THE SAME LAWS APPLY, WHETHER
YOU'RE AT A BRICK AND MORTAR
STORE OR WHETHER YOU'RE AT A GUN
SHOW AND THAT IS UM OUR DEALERS
. THERE'S GOT TO BE A LICENSED
DEALER TO SELL A FIREARM. MEDIC,
MEDIC GUN SHOW. UM YOU CAN'T
EVEN WALK OUT WITH A GUN AT A
GUN SHOW. WE HAVE A 10 DAY
WAITING PERIOD IN CALIFORNIA SO
YOU CAN GO START THE TRANSACTION
AT A GUN SHOW, BUT YOU'RE NOT
GONNA WALK OUT WHEN IT COMES TO
PARTS, AND WHEN IT COMES TO
AMMUNITION, YOU'RE SUBJECT TO
ELIGIBILITY CHECKS, WHICH
REQUIRES A LICENSED VENDOR. SOME
OF THE THINGS THAT AREN'T
DISCUSSED ABOUT GUN SHOWS THAT
ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY A
BILL LIKE THIS IS THE
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES OUT
THERE, AND SOME OF THE GROUPS
THAT ARE OUT THERE ALLOWING
PEOPLE TO GATHER AND TO SHARE AN
INTEREST IN FIREARMS IN THE
OUTDOORS AND THESE
CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED
RIGHTS. AND SO THERE'S THESE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GO
AND DO THAT. THERE'S ALSO
COMMUNITIES THEY MAY NOT HAVE.
GUN SHOWS ARE GUN STORES, AND
THIS MAY BE A PLACE WHERE
THEY'RE GOING TO GO GET THEIR
PARTS THEIR AMMUNITION. THROUGH
LAWFUL MEANS. THESE ARE NOT
AREAS OF IMMENSE CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY. THESE ARE LAW ABIDING
PERSONS AGAIN. THESE LAWS APPLY
THOSE WHO ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE
VIOLATING THE HUNDREDS OF
CALIFORNIA GUN LAWS. ARE NOT
DOING SO AT GUN SHOWS THEY'RE
DOING THROUGH ILLICIT MEANS THAT
ARE NOT OUT IN THE PUBLIC
PURVIEW WITH THAT, OR AN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL
GO TO OUR PHONE LINE AND SEE IF
MR TRAVIS IS AVAILABLE TO
TESTIFY. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD GOOD AFTERNOON
, MR CHAIRMAN STANDARDS FOR THE
RECORD. RICK TRAVIS, DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE ASSOCIATION ON BEHALF OF
OUR MEMBERS TO SPEAK AND STRONG
OPPOSITION TO SIMPLY BUILD 17
69. UH AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER
SAID, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER
ATTEMPT TO CONTINUE TO MARCH UP
THE STAKES SITTING DOWN, SO, UM
THE RHETORIC HAS BEEN USED TO
PROMOTE THIS BILL HAS BEEN SEEN
BEFORE AND BUILD, SUCH AS
ASSEMBLY BUILT 8 93 INTRODUCED
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARRIOR BY
DONNA MUSEUM IN 2019 TO FOCUS ON
JOMAR AND SIMILAR, THOUGH ABOUT
281 BYSTANDER, WIENER. TIME TO
DO THE SAME THING AS CAL
PALISSON SAMPSON, CISCO ARE
NAMED OF PUBLIC SAFETY BY USING
A SERIES OF SCARE TACTICS SUCH
AS THE COUNCIL. GOOD FOR THAT WE
JUST TALKED ABOUT AND REALIZING
THAT STANDARD THAT ARE THERE AND
PROMOTERS ARE HELD TO THE
HIGHEST CANCER OVER 26 SECTIONS
OF CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE. THE
CALIFORNIA DEAL. J IN TERMS OF
EVERY VENDOR HAS THE PROPER
LICENSES AS IN COMPLIANCE WITH
EXISTING LAWS. THERE ARE NO
LOOPHOLES.AND OTHERS AND
OPERATORS OF THOSE GUNSHOTS HAVE
TO COMPLY, AND THEY ALWAYS DO
AND WHEN THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT
THEY HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY VON
FORCE MINT. THE SECOND SCARE
TACTIC THESE SHOWS ARE NOT
FAMILY OR COMMUNITY FRIENDLY.
WHEN YOU'RE AMENDING COMMUNITY
GROUPS, CULTURALLY BASED YEAH,
UM ARE ABLE TO COME THERE AND
GET EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS HERE.
PUBLIC DISCOURSE MIGHT STYLES
EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND REMEMBER, WE HAD
OVER A MILLION. YOU CAN
UNDERSTAND THE PANDEMIC ALONE.
THE NEED THE FIELD STATES AND
HOW ACCESSIBLE EDUCATION TO KEEP
THEM SAFE IS GREATER THAN EVER.
LIVING GUNSHOWS ACTUALLY
DECREASED BY ON SAFETY AND THE
FINAL SCARE TACTIC. NUMBER THREE
IS TRAVELS. ATTEND THESE GUN
SHOW. IT WOULD BE CRAZY TO
BELIEVE THAT A CRIMINAL WOULD
TRY TO PUT YOUR FIREARMS OR
HELPING MISSION CONCEPT SIMPLY
BECAUSE OF THE WORLD'S IMPORT
AND THE CONSTANT PRESIDENT. LAW
ENFORCEMENT. THERE'S MONTHS
FORCE MINT INSIDE OF GUN SHOWS
ALL THE TIME. THEY EVEN NEVER
SEEN OTHER PLACES. SENATE BILL
22 21 BEALL STUDENT BY GOVERNOR
BROWN LEE RETURNED THAT BILL
WITHOUT A SIGNATURE DECISION ON
WHAT KINDS OF TURF RESTS WITH
THE LOCAL BOARD DIRECTORS,
WHICH, INCIDENTALLY, REPRESENTS
A BLACK PROSPECTS ON THE
COMMUNITY. THEY'RE IN THE BEST
POSITION TO MAKE. THE DECISION
IS FOR THESE REASONS AND FOR THE
CONTINUING WORK OF OUR
ORGANIZATION TO IMPROVE FIRE AND
SAFETY THAT WE THINK STRONG
OPPOSITION TO A B 17 59. THANK
YOU. QUÊ. NOW WE'LL BRING IT
BACK TO ROOM. 1 12. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION OF A B 17 69. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SAM PAREDES,
REPRESENTING GUN ON HIS
CALIFORNIA WE STAND IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. GREAT SHE AIN'T NO OTHER
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM 1 12. MONTEREY LET'S GO TO
OUR PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME AND
FIRST WE WILL GO TO LINE 46.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. JAMES O'BRIEN,
LIFELONG CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS
REMEMBER CR P A IN STRONG
OPPOSITION OF A B. 17 59. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND NEXT GO TO
LINE 51, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS GABRIELLE, MEMBER OF C R
PA. AND STRONG OPPOSITION OF
THIS SELF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. AND IT'S FIELD LINES. 55,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
STEVE ROTTERDAM WITH THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION AND U S NAVY
VETERAN. I'M STRONGLY URGING THE
COMMITTEE TO OPPOSE A B 17 69.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 33, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI GOOD MORNING
COMMITTEE. THIS IS DARREN
BEDWELL. I'M A MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND I'M URGING
OPPOSITION TO A B 17 69. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
WE HAVE LINE 59, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
JOHN HICKMAN. I AM THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE NEVADA COUNTY GUN OWNERS
CHAPTER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION AND ON
BEHALF OF MEMBERSHIP IN NEVADA
COUNTY. WE ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU. AND
NEXT, WE HAVE LINE 48, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS RON LANDER, CHAIRMAN OF THE
CRP, A CHAPTER IN RIVERSIDE
COUNTY REPRESENTING OVER 400
FAMILIES THAT HONEST GUN OWNERS.
WE ALSO OPPOSE A B 1769 AND ALL
THE COMMENTS BY RICK TRAVIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
WITNESS LINE. 22, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MR CHAIR. THIS IS TIM
MCMAHON. I'M THE SHARE OF THE
SOUTH SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND NRA MEMBER.
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE LINE 41, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YEAH. 9 41. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. THEY GET AFTERNOON STELLAR
BREADS, RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT,
CURRENT COUNTY AND STRONG
OPPOSITION AT 80 17 69 AS WELL
AS ALL THE OTHER BILLS. THANK
YOU. A HUGE NEXT WE HAVE LINE
42, PLEASE GO AHEAD. TIÞN 42. I
WAS CHECKING ME OUT. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MICHAEL. I'M SORRY. THIS
IS MIKE ELLIOTT, RESIDENT OF
VENTURA COUNTY MEMBER OF THE
VENTURA COUNTY GUN OWNERS
CHAPTER OF THE CRP, A STRONGLY
OPPOSING 1769. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU NEXT WEEK OF
LINE. 54, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS JACK MARSHALL. I LIVE IN
NEVADA. MY LIFETIME. CALIFORNIA
RESIDENT CRP, A VOLUNTEER
LIFETIME MEMBER, LIFETIME MEMBER
OF THE NRA. I MEAN, UNITED
STATES ARMY VETERANS DISABLED. I
BELIEVE THAT GUN RIGHTS OR OR
WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND I BELIEVE
THAT SHUTTING DOWN ANYTHING THAT
HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP
TRAIN ANY OF THESE LADIES OR ANY
INDIVIDUAL. IS A WRONG THING TO
DO. PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH
YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I VOLUNTEER
AT THE GUN SHOWS AND I GOTTA
TELL YOU MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES
, LADIES COME UP ALL THE TIME.
WE JUST NEED YOUR NAME AND YOUR
ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU. AND. I
SAID, MY NAME IS JACK. NEXT. THE
NEXT WITNESS. WE GOT THAT A AND
N R. A THANK YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE
LINE 49 GO AHEAD. SORRY. 57,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. KANSAS JASON
KEMMER PRESIDENT, ADVENTURER
COUNTY, ALSO MEMBER OF THE
SIARKA AND N, R A. AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE OPPOSED A B 17
69 FOR THE PRIMARY REASON THAT
ALREADY THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE
FIREARMS AND RECEIVING EDUCATION
IN OUR COMMUNITY IS SEVERELY
LIMITED BY, UM ALL THE MEASURES
THAT HAVE ALREADY PASSED AND THE
GUN SHOW IS ONE OF THE LAST
REMAINING PLACES WHERE FAMILIES
CAN GO AND BECOME EDUCATED. AND
ACTUALLY FIND PARTS. AND NOW
WITH SOME OF THESE NEXT WITNESS,
PLEASE, THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE
LINES. 49, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME
IS MIKE FRANCO ON THE SMALL
BUSINESS OWNER, A MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION. I'M OPPOSED TO
THIS. I BELIEVE THE FAIRGROUNDS
BELONG TO THE PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES SHOULD DECIDE US.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS, EVERYONE. WE HAD INK.
YOU GOT IT OKAY. AFTER HEARING
BOTH SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION,
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.
IN YOUR SCANNER. AH OKAY. A B 17
69 HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
SCANNER. SOONER OR CHILL BOOK.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. SO I HAVE A
QUESTION FOR YOU. UM SO THERE
WAS A BILL SIMILAR TO THIS, UM
WITH REMOVING. GUNSHOWS FROM
COUNTY FAIRS, UM AT THE STATE
LEVEL. BY OUR COLLEAGUE FROM
ORANGE COUNTY BELIEVE. SO MY
QUESTION AND THIS IS WHAT I
LEARNED IN THE PROCESS. THAT
EACH REGION HAS THEIR OWN BOARD
. UH THAT DECIDES WHAT TYPES OF
SHOWS ARE BEING PRESENTED AT.
UM, THE COUNTY FAIRS. THAT BOARD
DECIDES THE BELIEF IF I'M NOT
MISTAKEN IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT THEORY ELECTED TO THAT
POSITION. I COULD BE WRONG OR
APPOINTED. THEY DECIDED WHAT IS. WHAT IS BEING ALLOWED TO BE
SHOWN AT THESE AT THESE COUNTY
FAIRS. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS,
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAD
SEVERAL WITNESSES OR GROUPS FROM
VENTURA COUNTY. UM, WANTING THIS
TO GO THROUGH. AND I ALWAYS LIKE
TO KEEP IT AT LOCAL, SO IT WILL
ALWAYS ASK FIRST. DID YOU FOLKS
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE LOCALLY
THROUGH YOUR LOCAL COUNTY? UM
AH! FAIR BOARD. I BELIEVE IT'S A
FAIR BOARD. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY
, BUT I THINK IT'S A FAIR BOARD
. DID YOU FOLKS ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE WITH THAT BOARD TO DECIDE?
NOT TO PRESENT THESE THERE. YES
SENATOR. WE DID ADDRESS THAT
WITH A FAIR BOARD. BUT YOUR
BELIEF THAT THEY ARE ELECTED IS
NOT ACCURATE. THEY ARE APPOINTED
SO THEY DON'T REPRESENT THE
CITIZENS OF VENTURA COUNTY FOR
AS AN AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES
. BUT IN FACT THE ELECTED
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE OF THE
COUNTY OF VENTURA HAVE ASKED US
TO DO THIS, SO THERE HAVE BEEN
REPEATED REQUEST. AND THERE YOU
HAVE USUALLY BEEN SPLIT VOTES,
YOU KNOW, WITHIN ONE VOTE OF
BANNING THE GUN SHOW, SO WE'RE
DOWN TO ONE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL
THAT IS BLOCKING THE WILL OF THE
PEOPLE OF INTERCOUNTY. WHICH IS
WHY WE HAVE FINALLY DECIDED TO
COME HERE AND DO IT WITH STATE
LEGISLATION. AND WHO APPOINTS
THESE BOARD MEMBERS. UM THE
GOVERNOR APPOINTS THE.
FAIRGROUND BOARD MEMBERS AND
BELIEVE THAT SENATOR IN THE
ASSEMBLY GET TO APPOINT ONE, BUT
THE GOVERNOR OF PRIMARILY
APPOINTS THEM. OKAY SO THERE IS
A PROCESS OF THE GOVERNOR
APPOINTING THEM AND THEN THEY
HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURE
OF BEING CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE
IN THE ASSEMBLY. THAT CORRECT?
NO NO CONFIRMED BY THE CENTER OF
THESE I'M SORRY. I DO NOT GET
CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE OR
GOVERNOR. AND WHAT IS THE TERM
LIMITS OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS? I
DON'T KNOW THE TERM LIMITS OF
THE BORDER LIMITS. I'M SORRY THE
TERMS OF WHICH THEY SERVE
BELIEVE THEIR FOUR YEAR TERMS,
BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT. I
WOULDN'T WANT TO BE QUOTED ON
THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE
FOUR YEAR TERMS. OKAY PERFECT.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I
HAVE FOR YOU, ACCORDING TO MY
NOTES. I SEE HERE AND I'VE AS I
SAID, WE SAW THIS SOMETHING
SIMILAR WITH, UM WITH OUR
COLLEAGUES IN THEIR BILLS. UM SO
MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE
BESIDES THE LOCAL PARTY GOING TO
THE LOCAL, WHICH IS ALWAYS MY
PRIORITY, TRIED TO KEEP IT
LOCAL. THE SECOND THING I WOULD
BE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
STATE GUN SHOWS ARE ONE OF THE
MOST HIGHLY, UM, REGULATED AND
OVERSEEN, UM, VENUES TO SELL
GUNS. AND I'M JUST KINDA CURIOUS
AS TO WHY BEING SUCH A. REALLY
REGULATED IN AND OVERSEEN, UM. I
GUESS YOU COULD SAY SHOW. UM WHY
WOULD YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO. NOT ALLOW IT IN THE COUNTY
BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING THEIR
FEES THERE. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED
TO ACTUALLY SELL THEM. THEY HAVE
TO HAVE A 10 DAY WAITING PERIOD
BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY
PURCHASE AGAIN. THEY GO THROUGH
ALL THE SAME DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BASED
ON THE NOTES THAT I HAVE HERE
THAT THERE REGULARLY VISITED BY
LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AGENTS. SO
HAS THERE BEEN A HISTORY OF
SOMETHING? GOING TO FERRY AZAD
THESE GUN SHOWS IN IN THE AREA
THAT YOU FOLKS ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT. SENATOR I THINK THERE'S
BEEN A HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY.
AS I SAID, IN MY ORIGINAL
COMMENTS OF THE GUN CULTURE,
EXPANDING AND EXPANDING IN THE
UNITED STATES AND AS A GUN
CULTURE HAS EXPANDED WE HAVE HAD
TRAGEDY AFTER TRAGEDY AFTER
TRAGEDY. SO I THINK I WANT TO BE
BE VERY CLEAR THAT GUNSHOWS
PROMOTE HELP PROMOTE A GUN, THE
GUN CULTURE IN THE UNITED
STATES. AND YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, JUST BEING HEAVILY
REGULATED RELATIVE RANK IS NOT A
MEASURE OF IMPACT THE UNITED
STATES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE MORE STRICT
GUN LAWS. THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER
STATES. BUT IF YOU COMPARE
CALIFORNIA'S GUN LAWS WITH ALL
OF THE OTHER INDUSTRIALIZED
COUNTRIES THAT ARE DOING SO MUCH
BETTER THAN US IN TERMS OF AH,
NOT HAVING GUN VIOLENCE, NOT
HAVING THESE MASS SHOOTINGS.
CALIFORNIA'S LAWS ARE LAUGHABLY
INADEQUATE AND WEAK, SO RELATIVE
RANK MEANS NOTHING. YES, THEY
MAY BE REGULATED. BUT PEOPLE ARE
BUYING GUNS LEGALLY. AND. TWO
GREAT TRAGEDY THAT WE JUST HAD
IN TEXAS WAS A LEGALLY PURCHASED
GUNS, SO IDENTIFYING THIS AS
BEING LEGAL. THE QUESTION IS
SHOULD HAVE COMMUNITY HAVE STATE
PROPERTY USED TO PROMOTE
SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY
OVERWHELMINGLY DOES NOT WANT TO
HAVE PROMOTED. THE GUN
MANUFACTURERS WITH WITH THE
PROFITS THAT THEY MAKE AND
CERTAINLY FIND MANY WAYS TO SELL
THEIR GUNS, BUT, UH, IF YOU ASK
THE PARENTS OF THE CHILDREN IN
THAT SCHOOL. IF IN THAT
COMMUNITY WOULD THEY LIKE TO
HAVE A GUN SHOW TWO WEEKS FROM
NOW AT THEIR LOCAL FAIRGROUNDS?
I DON'T THINK SO. AND THAT'S
WHAT PEOPLE IN VENTURA COUNTY
ARE STRONGLY SAYING TO US. AND I
APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE FROM
AROUND THE STATE SUGGESTING THAT
WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS FOR OUR
COMMUNITY IN VENTURA COUNTY. BUT
THIS LEGISLATURE HAS OH, DONE
THIS IN THE PAST WHEN A SPECIFIC
COUNTY HAS MADE THIS REQUEST,
AND WE'RE RESPECTFULLY MAKING
THIS REQUEST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
STYMIED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BY
APPOINTED NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS
WHO ARE, AS YOU SAID, WITH GREAT
RESPECT FOR LOCAL CONTROL
LOCALLY, DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO
CONTROL THIS BUT DESPERATELY DO
WANT TO STOP ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF
AN EXPANSION OF GUN CULTURE IN
VENTURA COUNTY. OKAY. AND I JUST
WITH ALL I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY,
VERY DELICATE SPACE AND I TRY TO
BE AS RESPECTFUL AS I CAN TO
BOTH SIDES THAT ARE VERY
CONCERNED. I THINK WE'RE ALL
VERY CONCERNED AS PARENTS WITH
CHILDREN AND WE'RE ALL VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT. UM THE. AND I'M
NOT SURE IF MY LABEL IT IS A GUN
CULTURE, BUT JUST HOW UNWELL WE
ARE AS A CULTURE. THAT WE ARE
JUST BECOMING SO VIOLENT ON SO
MANY RESPECTS. ONE OF THE
REASONS WHY I RAN, I RAN TO TRY
TO MODEL THE CIVILITY OF THE
LACK OF STABILITY THAT I SEE. UM
IN PEOPLE VILIFYING EITHER SIDE
, AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON
BEHALF OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT
I KNOW THAT OUR GUN OWNERS AND
YOU KNOW THEY ARE UM, LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS WHO IS, YOU
KNOW, FAMILY TRADITIONS THAT
THEY HAVE, UM, WHERE THEY YOU
KNOW, THEY GIVE US LITTLE BB GUN
OR SOMETHING. THEY START WITH
THEIR KIDS AND SO FORTH. IT'S AH
, FORM OF CULTURALLY WHERE THEY
GO HUNTING TOGETHER WITH SONS
AND DAUGHTERS OR FATHERS AND
SONS, FATHERS AND DAUGHTERS THAT
GO OUT AND DO HUNTING, SO I'M
VERY RESPECTFUL TO PEOPLE WHO
LIVE IN THAT SPACE AND ARE LAW
ABIDING, FAMILY ORIENTED PEOPLE
WHO YOU COULD GIVE THEM ANY SORT
OF WEAPON IN THEIR HANDS. IT
WOULD NEVER, EVER THINK OF.
CAUSING HARM TO ANY INDIVIDUAL.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY
CAUTIOUS WHEN WE SPEAK N THIS
SPACE THAT WE DON'T VILIFY A
CULTURE THAT WITHIN WITHIN OUR
SOCIETY EXIST THAT ARE LAW
ABIDING, THAT ARE, UM, THAT
VALUE OF LIFE AND WOULD NEVER
HURT ANYONE. AND THEN WE HAVE
NEFARIOUS ACTORS. TWO AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE
PREVIOUS BILL. I WISH WE HAD
SOMETHING THAT COULD FORETELL
WHEN SOMEONE IS GOING TO DECIDE
TO DO SOMETHING NEFARIOUS AND
SOMETHING WRONG. UM BECAUSE, AS
I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE
PREVIOUS BILL, WE COULD HAVE ALL
THE LAWS IN PLACE. BUT ONLY THE
LAW ABIDING GOOD PEOPLE. GOOD
HEARTED MINDED PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO FOLLOW THEM. THOSE THAT HAVE
A NEFARIOUS HEART AND THE MIND.
ARE GOING TO CARE LESS ABOUT
WHAT WE HAVE IN PACE AND SO I
JUST WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO
THOSE WHO ARE LAW ABIDING AND
GOOD HEARTED PEOPLE AND OUR
FAMILY TRADITIONS THAT WE MAY OR
MAY NOT AGREE WITH, OR WE MAY OR
MAY NOT RESONATE WITH BUT
THEY'RE NOT HURTING ANYONE. AND
THOSE THAT ARE NEFARIOUS AND
INDEED ARE YOU KNOW NOT WELL,
THEY'RE JUST YOU KNOW, I CAN'T
THINK OF ANOTHER WORD,
RESPECTFUL MARRIAGE THAT THEY'RE
JUST NOT WELL, WHO HAVE THE
INTENT TO HURT SOMEONE? SO I AS
WE NAVIGATE THIS SPACE, I'M JUST
TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL TO BOTH
SIDES AND MAKE SURE THAT UM
WE'RE CONSIDERATE AND NOT
ESCALATE THE TENSIONS THAT ARE
CREATED IN THIS SPACE. SO WITH
THAT, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO
SHARE THAT WITH YOU WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT GUN CULTURE, SENATOR I
APPRECIATE THAT. I'D LIKE TO
POINT OUT THAT I HAVE BOTH
FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT
ARE GUN OWNERS, RESPONSIBLE GUN
OWNERS. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO
POINT OUT THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY
OF RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS
SUPPORT FAR MORE RESTRICTIONS
THAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. FAR MORE
RESTRICTIONS THAN THE NRA HAS
BEEN WILLING TO SUPPORT OR
ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD. BANS ON
ASSAULT WEAPONS BACKGROUND
CHECKS. WE CAN'T GET THOSE
THINGS DONE BECAUSE OF WHAT I
WOULD CALL A MINORITY OPPOSITION
, NOT THE MAJORITY OF
RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS. AND
RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS, I THINK
CERTAINLY DESERVE RESPECT, BUT
WE ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM EVEN THE
VALUES OF RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS
IN THIS COUNTRY AT THIS POINT IN
TIME. WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM. WE
AGAIN IMPLORE THE STATE
LEGISLATURE TO ALLOW THE
CITIZENS OF VENTURA COUNTY TO
HAVE THEIR WISH ON GUN SHOWS AT
A STATE OWNED PROPERTY. THANK
YOU. YOU SOONER WINNER. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I
FULLY SUPPORT THIS BILL. UM YOU
KNOW, FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, I WAS
THE THIRD SENATOR IN A ROW FOR
MY COMMUNITY TO TRY TO BAN GUN
SHOWS AT THE COW PALACE, WHICH
IS, UH, ARE OUR AGRICULTURAL
DISTRICT FOR SAN FRANCISCO AND
SAN MATEO COUNTIES. JACKIE
SPIRIT TRIBE. MARK LENO TRIED. I
TRIED. WE ALL GOT VETOED. LEFT
AND RIGHT. WE FINALLY UM HOW TO
INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO
LITERALLY TRANSFER THEIR LAND TO
DALY CITY SHOW THAT WE WERE
SERIOUS AND THEY FINALLY
VOLUNTARILY CANCELED THE GUN
SHOWS AND COMING FROM A
COMMUNITY THAT FOR DECADES WAS
JUST HORRIFIED THAT THERE WAS A
HUGE GUN SHOW HAPPENING MULTIPLE
TIMES A YEAR. I THINK IT'S GREAT
THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR
VENTURA. VENTURA COUNTY. UM I DO
JUST WANNA SAY IT HAS BEEN A
NARRATIVE THAT THIS ISN'T ABOUT
GUNS. IT'S ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH,
AND I LOT OF RESPECT FOR MY
COLLEAGUE FROM SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY. BUT JUST BECAUSE OF A
THOUGHTFUL DISAGREEMENT ON THIS.
I THINK THAT FIRST ALMOST
RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS ARE NOT
STOCKING UP ON WEAPONS OF WAR
THAT I JUST I DON'T AGREE WITH
THAT AND THE FACT THAT WHEN WE
PAST CENTER PORTANTINO'S BILL TO
SAY THAT YOU CAN ONLY BUY ONE
GUN A MONTH, SO 12 GUNS A YEAR.
THE SAME GUN LOBBY OPPOSED
BECAUSE THE GUN LOBBY LET'S BE
CLEAR IS NOT ABOUT GRASSROOTS,
RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS. IT'S
ABOUT THE GUN CORPORATIONS THAT
ARE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY IN
THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN MAKE
MORE AND MORE MONEY. IF EVERYONE
JUST BUYS ONE GUN. AND STOPS
THERE, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO
STOP MAKING MONEY, SO THEY MAKE
MONEY BY SELLING BY CONVINCING
PEOPLE THAT ONE GUN ISN'T ENOUGH
THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, LIKE 20,
OR 30 GUNS TO BE REALLY SAFE.
I'M NOT NOT SURE WHO'S GOING TO
USE ALL THOSE GUNS THAT YOU HAVE
IN YOUR HOME, BUT THEY DO THAT
TO THE KEEP UP SELLING PEOPLE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE
TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE
GET RIGHT IN. JUST LIKE YOU KNOW
THE TOBACCO COMPANIES. HAD
ADDICT UM KIDS TO CIGARETTES.
BECAUSE THEY NEEDED THOSE FUTURE
CONSUMERS. THE GUN CORPORATIONS
KNOW THAT THE HALF FUTURE
CONSUMERS THEY NEED TO CONVINCE
YOUNG PEOPLE TO PURCHASE GUNS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, OVER TIME,
SAY, ONE ISN'T ENOUGH. FIVE
ISN'T ENOUGH. 20, ISN'T IT? YET
KEEP DOING IT AND YOU HAVE TO
BUY BIGGER AND MORE COMPLICATED
WEAPONS BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A
HUNTING RIFLE OR A SINGLE SHOT.
SHOTGUN YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN
ASSAULT WEAPON. SO THIS IS
REALLY, UM IT'S A TERRIBLE
SITUATION. THIS IS ONE LITTLE
PIECE OF IT. UM THE OTHER THING
I WILL SAY IS WE KNOW THAT THESE
YOU KNOW, I AGREE. PEOPLE OF
GOOD SPIRIT, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING
WE, OF COURSE, HAVE ACCIDENTAL
SHOOTINGS WHERE KIDS GET AHOLD
OF THEIR PARENTS, GUNS AND
TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN. UM, BUT
WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT THESE
GUNS REGULATIONS AND GUN SAFETY
REGULATIONS WORK. BECAUSE WE
KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE RATE OF
SHOOTINGS IN CALIFORNIA IS LOWER
THAN OTHER STATES AND SAME WITH
YOU. NEW YORK AND STATES THAT
HAVE STRONG GUN SAFETY
REGULATIONS HAVE LOWER RATES OF
GUN VIOLENCE, PERIOD. WE CAN'T
GET RID OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE
OPEN BORDERS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN
ONE COUNTRY, AND THAT'S WHY WE
NEED CONGRESS TO ACT. UM BUT
WHEN WE HAVE STRONG GUN SAFETY
REGULATIONS, YOU SAVE LIVES. UM
AND I JUST WANT TO FINALLY SAY
THAT THIS NARRATIVE THAT IT'S
ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, NOT ABOUT
GUNS. I THINK IT'S JUST NOT
ACCURATE. I WAS ACTUALLY
COINCIDENTALLY LISTENING TO A
PODCAST THIS MORNING. WE'RE A
PSYCHIATRIST WAS TALKING ABOUT
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MENTAL
HEALTH AND GUN VIOLENCE. UM AND
NOT I THINK IT WAS ONLY 4% OF
PEOPLE WHO SHOOT OTHER PEOPLE
HAVE SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES. 96. DON'T AND SO AGAIN.
THIS IS A NARRATIVE THAT THE GUN
CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN
PERPETUATING TO SAY THERE'S ONLY
ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S NOT
ABOUT GUN SAFETY, SO UM, I'M
GONNA WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
SENATOR CÂM MOTOR. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. I AM. I'M ALSO GOING TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL. UM BUT FOR
VERY DIFFERENT REASONS. I'M MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A
BILL THAT'S ALSO BEING SUPPORTED
BY THE VENTURA COUNTY WATER
SUPERVISOR. AND SO WHAT I THINK
IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT THE
STATE IS WORKING IN CONCERT IN
COLLABORATION WITH ITS LOCAL
PARTNER. UM VITRIOL AND
POLARIZATION AND DEMONIZATION
INTENSIFIES. NGUYEN. ENTITIES
FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING PUT UPON
THERE BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE FREEDOMS
THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY
SHOULD HAVE THAT. PROBABLY MAYBE
THEY HAVEN'T OTHER PORTIONS OF
THE POPULATION. DON'T BUT THAT'S
ANOTHER DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER
DAY. THIS IS I THINK THIS WORKS
BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT THE STATE
IS WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A
COUNTY THAT IS SAYING HELP US
AND IT HAS THE BIâU. AND BILLS
AND LEGISLATION AND LAWS AND
SOLUTIONS WORK WHEN THERE'S
BUYING. WHEN PEOPLE FEEL LIKE
THIS IS A RESOLUTION OR A
SOLUTION OR RESPONSE TO A
PROBLEM THAT WILL WORK. AND IT
ALSO SHOWS THAT THE COUNTY WILL
BE MAKING ITS BEST EFFORTS TO
IMPLEMENT THIS AND TO HELP. ALSO
PROBABLY CURB DONE VIOLENCE OR
USE THIS AS A STEP IN CONTINUED
EFFORTS FOR GUN VIOLENCE
PREVENTION. SO MY COLLEAGUE FROM
SAN FRANCISCO TALKED ABOUT
MENTAL HEALTH. I WAS JUST
READING SOMETHING THAT'S
MORNING. UM WHERE, UH UM AND
ELECTED OFFICIALS SAID THAT ONE
OF THE REASONS THAT WOMEN ARE TO
BLAME FOR THE MASS SHOOTINGS
BECAUSE WOMEN WANT TO SEEK
ABORTIONS AND IF THEY WOULD JUST
STOP TRYING TO SEEK ABORTIONS
AND HAVE BABIES, THEN UM, THE
ANGST WOULDN'T UH, SOMEHOW I
GUESS TRANSFER OVER TO THESE
PEOPLE WHO ARE MURDERING SENIORS
AND INNOCENCE AND BABIES, SO I
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WOMEN WANTING
TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR
PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL
INSTABILITY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY
NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS. UM SO
THAT WAS MY RANT FOR THIS
WEDNESDAY, AND WITH THAT I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR WHAT I FEEL IS A
COMMON SENSE MEASURE AND CLEARLY
LISTENING TO THE CLARION CALL OF
THOSE FOLKS IN YOUR COMMUNITY
WHO ARE ASKING FOR THIS REFORM.
YEAH OR I SHOULD SAY SAFEGUARDS
AND TO CONTINUE TO CONFLATE.
SAFETY MEASURES WITH VILIFYING
INDIVIDUALS AGAIN MAKES ABOUT AS
MUCH SENSE AS HAVING SPEEDING
LAWS AND SEEING IF YOU ABIDE BY
THE SPEED LIMIT THAT IN SOME WAY
YOU'RE BEING DEMONIZED FOR SOME
REASON, BECAUSE IT'S RESTRICTED
YOUR ABILITY TO DRIVE FAST. THIS
IS ALL THIS IS ABOUT AGAIN
SAFETY. AH COMMON SENSE MEASURES
THAT I THINK ARE LONG OVERDUE.
AND I AGREE TO CONTINUE TO, UH,
QUITE THIS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS
WHEN CLEARLY WE CAN LOOK AT THE
LAST THREE SHOOTINGS OR MASS
SHOOTINGS. YOU DON'T PLOT
SOMETHING OUT. YOU DON'T WRITE
100 AND 80 PAGE MANIFESTO. IF
YOU HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS, YOU
DON'T DRAW YOUR WEAPON AND PULL
IT DOWN AND APOLOGIZE TO A WHITE
GUY BECAUSE YOU CAME NEAR AND
WITH INTENTIONS TO KILL BLACK
INDIVIDUALS. IF THIS WAS A
MENTAL ILLNESS ISSUE, YOU WOULD
HAVE SHOT ANYBODY IN YOUR LINE
OF SIGHT. SO I TO, UH, I'M UP TO
HERE WITH CONTINUE TO SAY THIS
IS MENTAL ILLNESS WHEN PEOPLE
CLEARLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING
WITH THESE GUNS, YOU DON'T GO TO
LAS VEGAS AND WE'RE IN A SWEET
AND LOOK DOWN ON THE PLAZA AND
MAKING SURE YOU HAVE A CLEAR
LINE OF SIGHT TO KILL AS MANY
PEOPLE OUT OF CONCERT THAT'S NOT
MENTAL ILLNESS. THAT'S CLEAR.
THE DEMONIC THINKING, BUT YOU
KNOW CLEAR THINKING, BUT ON THE
WRONG SPECTRUM. SO I SUPPORT
THIS MEASURE. AND IF AT THAT
RIGHT NOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, AND SENATORS THAT THERE'S
REALLY JUST ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND
THE OTHER FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES
THAT ARE DOING SO MUCH BETTER.
ON GUN VIOLENCE AND AVOIDING
THESE MASS SHOOTINGS. AND THAT
IS THE PROLIFERATION OF GUNS AND
THE GUN CULTURE HERE. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO JUST
TAKE ONE MORE STEP. IN TRYING TO
TURN THAT CULTURE BACK HERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION WE
HAVE TO DO PASS THE
APPROPRIATIONS COUNCIL. PLEASE
CALL ROLL ON FOLLOWING HIM TO A
B 17 69. A B 17 69 BRADFORD
BRADFORD IACOPO BOGUE. TRUE, BUT
NOT VOTING. KAMLAGER KAMLAGER,
AYE SKINNER WIENER. WIENER? AYE.
MEASURE HOUSE. THREE VOTES WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS THINKING,
CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT UP. WE
HAVE A B WELL, OKAY, WE GOT MR
MANCHIN. MAYBE 20 TO 39. MEN AND
I WANT TO THANK MR MCCARTHY.
ALSO FOR ALLOWING ME TO STEP IN,
UM, HAVE A BILL THAT'S BEING
SUPPORTED BY BOTH GUN ADVOCATES
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT
OPPOSITION. A B 20 TO 39 ADDS
ADDITIONAL MISDEMEANORS TO THE
LIST OF CRIMES THAT PROMPTED 10
YEAR BAN FROM OWNING OR
POSSESSING FIREARMS. AS WE'VE
SEEN THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY'S
HISTORY WITH GUN VIOLENCE,
ALLOWING FIREARMS IN THE HANDS
OF THE WRONG INDIVIDUALS CAN
HAVE DISASTROUS EFFECTS. FAR TOO
OFTEN. THESE TRAGEDIES ARE
PERPETRATED BY INDIVIDUALS WHO
HAVE SHOWN PREVIOUS SIGNS OF
VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. UNDER CURRENT
LAW, INDIVIDUALS CONVICTED OF
OVER 40 SPECIFIED MISDEMEANOR
VIOLATIONS ARE PROHIBITED FROM
OWNING OR POSSESSING A FIREARM
FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS, MAYBE
20 TO 39 ADDS CHILD ENDANGERMENT
AND ELDER ABUSE TO THE LIST OF
CRIMES THAT WARRANTS A 10 YEAR
BAN. THIS BILL WILL HELP GET
GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF
DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS WITH ME ON
THE PHONE TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
IS NICOLE KROSBY, CHIEF DEPUTY
CITY ATTORNEY FOR GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITH
THE SAN DIEGO CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE. THANK YOU, MR CROSBY,
WHEN YOU'RE READY YOU HAVE TO
THANK YOU. I'M NICOLE CROSBY,
THE CHIEF DEPUTIES TO THE
ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO
CITY ATTORNEY MARA ELLIOTT. SHE
THINKS THAT SOMEONE NEVER
MAIENSCHEIN FOR HIS WORK ON THE
IMPORTANT CHANGE TO OUR PENAL
CODE WITH THIS, MAYBE 2 TO 39.
OUR OFFICE IDENTIFIED THE NEED
FOR THIS BILL BECAUSE WE SEE
HARM THEM TO CHILDREN AND ELDERS
ON A DAILY BASIS. AS THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER EXPLAINED, STILL
CLOSED SIGNIFICANTLY. PORN
CALIFORNIA GUN LAWS ARE LAWS
HERE THAT INDIVIDUALS FROM
HAVING DONE FOR 10 YEARS AFTER
THEY'RE CONVICTED OF ASSAULTING
A STRANGER, BUT NOT WHEN THEY
ABUSED CHILDREN OR SENIORS.
BREATHING. THOSE CRIMES
INVOLVING FAMILY MEMBERS. AS
PROSECUTORS. WE KNOW THERE IS A
STRONG CORRELATION BETWEEN
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SUBSEQUENT
GUN VIOLENCE. THE ABUSER
POSSESSES A GUN. REMOVING GUNS
FROM THESE HOUSEHOLDS. WE CAN
PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE
CITIZENS, CHILDREN AND SENIORS.
ESPECIALLY PROTECT THEM FROM THE
ESCALATING VIOLENCE THAT
OCCURRED WHEN YOU'VE USERS HAVE
UNFETTERED ACCESS TO FIREARMS.
80 20 TO 39 WILL ALSO PROTECT
CHILDREN ANOTHER WAY. ABUSED
CHILDREN HAVE ELEVATED TENDENCY
TO SELF HARM AND ENGAGE IN
SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR. BY READING
THEIR ENVIRONMENT OF GUNS, WE
REMOVED THE MOST LETHAL MEANS OF
SUICIDE. THAT IS A SHOWN THAT
MINORS WHO ARE PHYSICALLY OR
EMOTIONALLY ABUSED OR ATTEMPT
SUICIDE IT TWICE THE RATE OF
THEIR PEERS AND FOR CHILDREN WHO
EXPERIENCE SEXUAL ABUSE, THE
LIKELIHOOD OF AN ATTEMPTED
SUICIDE INCREASES 3.5 TIMES. THE
CRIMES COVERED BY 80 20 TO 39
ARE ALL MISDEMEANORS. WE'RE
AWARE THAT MANY PEOPLE HOLDING
MISTAKEN NOTION BUT A
MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES, NOT A
SERIOUS OFFENSE. THAT IS SIMPLY
NOT TRUE. LET ME DESCRIBE SOME
OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
OFFICE PROSECUTED AS MISDEMEANOR
CHILD OR ELDER ABUSE. A FATHER
OF 22 MAJORS, TWO TEENAGERS WHO
WILL DRUNK THREATENED THEM WITH
BROKEN GLASS THROUGH HIS
DAUGHTER TO THE GROUND AND
REPEATEDLY SLAMMED HER HEAD INTO
A DOOR. SHE WAS SENT TO THE
HOSPITALS, INJURIES. A FATHER
WHO TOLD HIS YOUNG CHILDREN THAT
HE WAS GOING TO SHOOT THEIR
MOTHER'S NEW HUSBAND, BUT THAT
THEY SHOULDN'T TELL ANYONE
LEAVING THEM BOTH TRAUMATIZED. A
MIDDLE AGED MAN WHO LIVED WITH
HIS ELDERLY MOTHER AND HIS
VICTIM TO DRUG HE OFTEN SMOED
DEMONS, STRANGLED THE PARENTS
AND DID THIS ON DIFFERENT
OCCASIONS. A FATHER WHO VERBALLY
BERATED AND PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED
HIS YOUNG SON. I LOVED OCCASIONS
, CREATING WHAT IT'S
PSYCHOLOGIST DESCRIBED AS AN
EXTREME EMOTIONAL STRESS. IN THE
CASE INVOLVING A COMPLETE
STRANGERS, A MAN WHO WAS HEAD
BUTTED HE HAD BEEN A 79 YEAR OLD
MAN WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION. AND
THAT PERSON WAS JUST STANDING
TALKING TO A FRIEND ON THE
STREET. 80 20 TO 39 WILL PREVENT
INDIVIDUALS LIKE THIS FROM
POSSESSING DONE WHEN THEY RE
INTEREST SOCIETY, OUR
COMMUNITIES WE SAFER FOR IT.
CITY ATTORNEY MARIO ELLIOT AND I
ASKED FOR YOUR YES. VOTE ON THIS
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES ON THE LINE
. WELL, THAT WAS THE ONLY
PRIMARY WITNESS SO WE'LL COME
DOWN THE ROOM. 1 12, PLEASE.
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
MOIRA TOP HERE ON BEHALF OF SAN
DIEGO MAYOR TODD GLORIA AND THE
CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND CO SPONSOR
ON THE MEASURE AND STRONG
SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DAN
PHILLIPS, OTHER ON BEHALF OF THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT.
NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT HERE IN
ROOM 1, 12 MODERATOR, LET'S GO
TO OUR PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
THERE ARE WITNESSES IN QUÊ
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
A B 22. 39. THANK YOU. LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 20 TO 39
, PLEASE PRESS 10 ON YOUR PHONE
AT THIS TIME. AND ONE MOMENT IF
WE GET LINE NUMBERS.
AND FIRST WEIGHT OF LINE NUMBER.
67. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
RUSSIA MATURE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 2 TO 39. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS ALL
THAT WE HAD IN. Q OKAY, NOW
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO ROOM 1.
12 I SHOOT NO PRIMARY LEAD,
WITNESS AND OPPOSITION. IS THERE
ANYONE HERE IN ROOM 1 12 WISHING
TO TESTIFY? IN OPPOSITION OF 20
TO 39. HEARING C. NONE
MODERATORS. LET'S GO TO THE
PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF MAYBE 20 TO 39.
THANK YOU. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS 10
AT THIS TIME. THAT'S ONE THEN
ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE. IN ONE
MOMENT FOR THE FIRST LINE
NUMBER.
LINE. 66, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. JIM WESTFALL,
MEMBER OF C R P A. AND THE N R
A. M, PLEASE. DEFEAT THIS BILL.
BYE NOW. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS
ALL THAT WE HAD IN QUÊ. OKAY?
HAVING HEARD FROM BOTH SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION. WE'RE GOING TO
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO A B 20
TO 39. OKAY? IT'S BEEN MULLING.
WAS IT MORE? OKAY. IT'S BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR JOE BOAT. MR
MANCHIN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
YOU VERY MUCH MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
AND I VOTE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON A B 20
TO 39. WE HAVE A NEW PALACE TO
APPROPRIATIONS 20 TO 39 BRADFORD
BRADFORD IAKOVOS AGCO BOAKYE
KAMLAGER. COME LIKE OR I SKINNER
SKINNER. I WIENER. WIENER I 5 TO
0 MAJOR HOUSE FIVE VOTES. YOU'RE
OUT SUCCESSFULLY.
CONGRATULATIONS NOW WE'RE MOVING
TO BACK TO FILE ITEM THREE. A. B
21 56 SIMILAR MCCARTHY WILL BE
PRESENTING FOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WORKS. YEAH, WE DON'T CONCERN.
THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO BILLS. SO
THIS IS THE ONE ON BEHALF OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. WICKS, WHO'S
NOT WITH US TODAY. THIS BILL
WOULD PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY IN
THIS GUN SPACE AND SAFE GUN LAWS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA BY CLOSING
THE GAPS IN CALIFORNIA'S FIREARM
MANUFACTURING LICENSING LAWS. BY
GENERALLY REQUIRING THE STATE
ISSUE THAT A STATE ISSUE
MANUFACTURER LICENSE TO ASSEMBLE
UM, UH, BUT HAVE A THRESHOLD OF
MORE THAN THREE GUNS PER YEAR AS
A DEFAULT. THIS NUMBER IS
CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT LAW
UNDER THE UNSAFE HANDGUN ACT,
AND AS A REASONABLE EXCEPTION
FOR INDIVIDUALS FOR
MANUFACTURING QUANTITIES,
CONSISTENT WITH AN ASSUMPTION
THAT THE FIREARMS ARE INTENDED
FOR ONLY PERSONALLY USE. IN
ADDITION, THIS BILL CLARIFIES
THAT THE SAME LICENSE
REGULATIONS APPLY TO THREE D
PRINTED GUNS. CURRENT ZIP GUN
LAWS DO NOT APPLY TO FIREARMS
ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BY LICENSED
MANUFACTURERS AND IS EXEMPT FROM
FEDERAL FIREARMS EXCISE TAX
RULES WHICH DO NOT ADEQUATELY
COVER ALL THREE D PRINTED GUNS.
DATA PROVES THAT PRIVATELY
MANUFACTURED GHOST GUNS ARE NOW
THE LEADING CONTRIBUTOR TO GUN
VIOLENCE. MR GIBSON ALLUDED TO
EARLIER AND THERE IS MORE NEEDED
TO DO TO STRENGTHEN OUR LAWS FOR
THESE AND REGULATED FIREARMS. IN
ORDER TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES
FROM FURTHER GUN VIOLENCE. WE
MUST CLOSE THESE LOOPHOLES AND
STRENGTHEN CALIFORNIA'S FIREARM
MANUFACTURING LAWS. WITH ME
TODAY. I BELIEVE OVER THE PHONE
IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
GIFFORDS. UM, LAWCENTER. THANK
YOU. WE HAVE, ARI. RELIC. HE'S
READY. YES. HELLO GO RIGHT
AHEAD. THE NEWS, IRISH PUBLIC
POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE GUN
VIOLENCE PREVENTION
ORGANIZATION, GIFFORD PROUD
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THE FOOT
DEFICIENT STARTS IN THE SIMPLE
PREMISE THAT MANUFACTURING
WEAPONS WHICH ARE DESIGNED THE
FREQUENTLY USED TO KILL AND MAKE
YOU BEING SERIOUS ENTERPRISE
THAT REQUIRES DO CARE OVERSIGHT
. TRANSPARENCY COMPLIANCE,
RESPONSIBLE STANDARD BUSINESS
PRACTICE. I LOST CURRENTLY
REFLECT THIS IMPORTANT BUT TOO
LIMITED. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES
SOME GUN MANUFACTURERS DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S OUR CONNECTION, BUT
YOU'RE HARD TO HEAR IF YOU MAYBE
CAN SPEAK UP OR YEAH, WELL, I'M
NOT SURE WHY THAT'S HAPPENING,
BUT I'LL TRY TO SPEAK UP. UM
CURRENT STATE LAW REQUIRES SOME
MANUFACTURERS TO OBTAIN A
LICENSE MANUFACTURED FIREARMS
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
NO PART OF THESE LICENSED
MANUFACTURERS TO COMPLY WITH
SPECIFIED RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS
PRACTICES TO PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY. CALIFORNIA
LICENSE MANUFACTURERS ARE
REQUIRED, FOR INSTANCE, TO
CONDUCT MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS
ONLY IN DESIGNATED BUILDING
SECURITY STANDARDS TO PREVENT
GUN TESTS. FALSE CLAIMS OF
TRAFFIC GUNS WERE STOLEN FROM
PREMISES. ENSURE THAT ALL
FIREARMS PRODUCED BY THE
MANUFACTURERS AND FOR THE UNIQUE
SEAL MEMBER TO AID AN
INVESTIGATION OF GUN CRIMES.
ENSURE THAT ALL EMPLOYEES WHO
HANDLE FIREARMS ANNUAL
BACKGROUND SHIP NOTIFY LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT, SEXUAL
MANUFACTURING FIREARMS ROUTINE
AND KIÞM MANUFACTURING.
IDENTIFYING ALL FARMS FRAMES AND
FINISHED WITH PRODUCE. HOWEVER
TWO MAJOR GAPS IN THE LAW ALLOWS
PEOPLE OF CORPORATIONS TO
MANUFACTURERS TECHNICALLY
UNLIMITED NUMBERS OF FIREARMS
WITHOUT ANY LICENSE AND
THEREFORE WITHOUT COMPLYING WITH
ANY OF THOSE STANDARDS, PUBLIC
PRECAUTION. FIRST CRIMINAL ONLY
REQUIRED THIS BUSINESS FACTORIES
LIKE THIS FROM CALIFORNIA IF
THEY'VE ALREADY OBTAINED A
FEDERAL MANUFACTURERS
INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES WHO
SKIRT THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.
MANUFACTURERS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
ARE EFFECTIVELY AUTOMATICALLY
EXEMPT FROM CALIFORNIA'S
REQUIREMENT. SECOND CRIMINAL
ONLY REQUIRES A CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS LIKE MANUFACTURING
TECHNIQUE MORE THAN 50. OH, MY
GOD, BECAUSE YOU ARE PEOPLE AND
COMPANIES, ETCETERA 49 W WEAPONS
EVERY YEAR. OUR EXAM. CALIFORNIA
LICENSES AND AS A RESULT FROM
THE STANDARD PUBLIC PRECAUTIONS
WE ASKED, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
FINALLY, UNLIKE MOST OTHERS TO
CALIFORNIA HAS NOT PASSED A
CLEAR AFFIRMATIVE PROHIBITION OF
PRODUCING BUYERS WITH THREE D
PRINTERS, BUT THAT MANUFACTURING
THIS LEGISLATION WILL HELP
PROTECT COMPLEMENT CRITICAL
LEGISLATION INTRODUCED BY
SOMETHING THAT GIVES HIM THIS
YEAR BUT GENERALLY REQUIRING
INDIVIDUALS MANUFACTURE FIREARMS
LICENSE COMPLY WITH ITS
MANUFACTURING WAS BOARD SECTION
INDIVIDUALS WHO PRODUCE SMALLER
NUMBERS OF FIREARMS, CONSISTENT
QUALITY PERSONALLY. WOULD YOU
SUPPORT. NOW WE'LL BRING IT BACK
TO ROOM 1 12. ARE THERE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT A B 21 56
STATE, YOUR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS DAN, PHYLLIS OTTO AND
GRAPH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, REBECCA MARCUS.
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BRADY,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. SANDRA WHETSTONE
, A VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION, AND I'M IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. SHE NO ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE IN 1, 12
MODERATED WILL GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES FOR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT.
OF A B 21 56. THANK YOU TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF A B 21 56, PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. AND FIRST
WE WILL GO TO LINE 58. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON CALL
KENYANS ON BEHALF OF EVERY TOWN
FOR GUN SAFETY AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND NEXT,
WE HAVE LINES. 62 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. OF COURSE. I'M SORRY.
COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? UM 9 62,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AGAIN. NEXT WE WILL GO TO LINE
27. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS RACHEL MICHAEL, SENDING THEM
A VOLUNTEER WITH MOST OF
INACTION, FOR INSTANCE, CAUSES
SUPPORT OF 80 21 56. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THE
KIDS. NEXT WE HAVE LINE 14,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS RAY COLLUSION FROM CLAREMONT
AND. I'M A SURVIVING VICTIM OF
GUN VIOLENCE, HAVING SEEN MY
SISTER SHOT IN THE HEAD. AND MY
FATHER SHOT IN THE CHEST. AGAIN
AND THE VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION AND EVERY TIME FOR
GUN SAFETY. START CALLING IN
WITH VERY STRONG SUPPORT FOR A
B. 21 56. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LINE 60,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME'S
CRYSTAL LIVE A LOT OF
COMPLIMENTS FROM ALAMEDA. I'M A
VOLUNTEER RESPNSE DURING
ACTION, FOR INSTANCE, CALLING IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AND 9 62. WE DID NOT HEAR YOUR
COMMENT IF YOU WISH TO HIT 10
AGAIN. PERHAPS NOT. I HAVE NO
ONE ELSE IN QUÊ. THANK YOU. NOW
WE'RE GOING TO AFFORD OPPOSITION
TO SAME OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE TWO
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. WE
HAVE TRAVIS. AND DAN REED. SO I
ASSUME MR TRAVIS IS ON THE PHONE
LINE WHO WILL BEGIN WITH HIS
TESTIMONY. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN
CENTERS FOR THE RECORD OF THE
TRAVIS, THE GOVERNMENT DIRECTOR
FOR THE CALIFORNIA WAVE POP
ASSOCIATION HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF OUR MEMBERS TO SPEAK IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY
BILL 21 56. IN JULY. 2015
GOVERNOR-BROWN-SIGNS-MOORLACH-DATE-SEPARATION-BILL. IZATION REQUIREMENT THAT
ALREADY MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO
MANUFACTURE TO TURN ANY
PRECURSOR PARTNER. FIREARM
WITHOUT PROPER REGISTRATION.
CERTAINLY IZATION FROM DLJ. THIS
PROCESS INCLUDE THE COMPLETION
OF BACKGROUND CHECK, WHICH BEGS
THE QUESTION WAS THE TRUE INTENT
. THE AFFECTED INDIVIDUALS FROM
MANUFACTURING BECAUSE THEY'RE
PART ADDITIONALLY, THEY BE 21 56
pOF THESE PARTS WERE STILL
WAITING FOR THE DEFINITION OF
WHAT PART OF WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN
FIREARMS THEIR PARTS.
FURTHERMORE THERE ALREADY
REGULATIONS. THE MANUFACTURER,
LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND
GUNS. SUCH A SCENE IN PENAL CODE
17360 AND 3 300. WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING FOR OUR LAWS FROM OUR
LEGISLATURE TO GO AFTER THE
CRIMINAL ELEMENT THAT'S RAVAGING
OUR COMMUNITY. JUST CONTINUES TO
BAD TREND STARTED IN 2017 AND
GOVERNOR-BROWN-SIGNS-MOORLACH-DATE-SEPARATION-BILL
. AND THE COMMISSION BONNET
CRIME. OTHER BAD LEGISLATION HAS
CONTINUED TO ROLL BACK TONY'S ON
CRIMINALS. AS A RESULT, WE HAVE
SEEN CRIME RATES GOT RID OF
ROUGH HERE IN CALIFORNIA. THE
FOCUS ON OUR LEGISLATORS SHOULD
NOT BE END ON BILL SUCH AS THIS,
BUT ON THE EVER GROWING LIST OF
OVER 24,000 PLUS KNOWN ARMED
PROHIBITED SOMEONE HAVE PROVEN
THE VALUES BY ARMS ILLEGALLY AND
CONTINUES TO GROW IN CALIFORNIA
, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT JUSTICE
AGENCIES TRYING TO BE FURTHER
THAN BEING ARMED STONES OFF OUR
STREETS AND OUT OF OUR
COMMUNITIES. OR THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF OUR
CITIZENS ARE UNUSED FARMS. WE
BELIEVE THOSE WHO USE FARMS AND
COMMISSIONER BONNET CRIME SHOULD
BE PUNISHED AT THE BOAT LAUNCH.
WE STAND WITH LONG PRESIDENT OF
CALIFORNIA AND CONTINUE TO BE OF
ASSISTANCE FIRST. AS WE HAVE 147
YEARS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT SOME LEGISLATION IN
PARTICULAR CHILDREN, REDUCING
CRIME AND GETTING CRIMINALS OFF
OUR STREETS ONCE AND FOR ALL AND
OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THIS IS
NOT THAT KIND OF LEGISLATION.
FOR THE FOREGOING REASONS. CRP
STANDS AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO
21 56 AN URGENCY TO VOTE NO ON
THE LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU KNOW WE MOVED TO 10
READ HERE IN THE ROAD. THANK YOU
, MR. CHAIR MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
THE COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD AND
READ WESTERN REGIONAL DIRECTOR
WITH THE NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION. WE'RE HERE IN
OPPOSITION TODAY TO A B 21 56.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE MORE LAW
THAT'S GONNA REALLY IMPACT LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS. YOU KNOW, WE
HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION
EARLIER ON AB 16 21. IN ABOUT
THE EXPANSION OF THE PRECURSOR
PARTS DEFINITIONS AND HOW THE
INTENT WAS HOW HOW LAW ABIDING
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH
THIS RIGHT, AND I THOUGHT THERE
WAS A REALLY GOOD DIALOGUE ON
THAT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOME
BUILT FIREARMS, SOMETHING THAT
WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE BEFORE
AMERICA WAS A COUNTRY, RIGHT?
THIS IS THIS GOES BACK FOR
GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS. UM
WE ALREADY HAVE LAWS AGAINST
CRIMINAL MISUSE OF FIREARMS WHO
CAN POSSESS FIREARMS, SO WHETHER
THAT FIREARM IS ACQUIRED THROUGH
A LICENSED MANUFACTURER THROUGH
A DEALER OR WHETHER IT'S BUILT
IN A GARAGE BY A HOBBYIST OR
WHATNOT. IF YOU'RE PROHIBITED,
YOU CANNOT POSSESS. THIS FIREARM
AND SO WE'RE SEEING A WERE JUST
PILING ON MORE AND MORE LAWS AS
WE SEE, UM ARBITRARY NUMBERS ON
THE NUMBER OF FIREARMS, IT'S
HOBBYIST OR SOMEONE CAN MAKE AND
GIVEN CALENDAR YEAR. I MEAN IT
WAS JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
THAT WE WERE TAKING THAT NUMBER
DOWN FROM 100 TO 50, RIGHT. AND
NOW WE'RE GOING DOWN TO THREE.
UM AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE
THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF A TREND
THAT WE SEE WITH ALL CALIFORNIA
GUN LAWS. YOU KNOW, WE YOU GO
BACK 20 YEARS AND YOU LOOK AT
MAGAZINES IT WAS HEY, WE'RE
GOING TO AND THE NEW SALE OF
MAGAZINES CAPABLE OF HOLDING
MORE THAN 10 ROUNDS. AND THEN
ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS LIKE,
ACTUALLY, YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE
THESE ANYMORE, EVEN THOUGH YOU
LAWFULLY POSSESS THEM. AND SO WE
JUST CONTINUE TO SEE THAT ATTACK
ON THE LAW ABIDING WHILE
CRIMINALS ARE JUST RACKING UP
THE NUMBER OF GUN LAWS THAT
THEY'RE VIOLATING AND DIDN'T
GIVEN TIME. UM AND WHEN IT COMES
TO THREE D PRINTERS, OBVIOUSLY
THIS IS JUST ONE MANUFACTURING
METHOD THAT'S A HOBBYIST MAY USE
FOR CERTAIN PARTS. IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE THE WHOLE GUN.
THERE'S FEDERAL LAW REGARDING
UNTRACEABLE FIREARMS. UM AND SO
THE QUESTION IS WHY AND IF IT
COMES TO NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY, I
HAVE NO IDEA HOW YOU WOULD
ACTUALLY ENFORCE THIS UNTIL
AFTER THE FACT THAT YOU CAME
ACROSS SOMEONE WHO WAS
PROHIBITED AND THEN YOU CAN GO
AFTER THEM FOR FELONY PENALTIES
FOR BEING A CRIMINAL. PERSON IN
POSSESSION OF FIREARMS, SO I
JUST FEEL THAT THIS BILL IS
UNNECESSARY. AND WITH THAT WE
WILL STAND IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM 1, 12 AND OPPOSITION OF
THIS MEASURE, 21 56. GUARANTEE
NONE. WE'LL GO NOW TO OUR PHONE
LINES. MODERATOR ARE THERE
ANYONE? THIS IS AN OPPOSITION IN
KEY WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
OPPOSITION OF 21 56. THANK YOU
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE
PRESS 10 ON YOUR PHONE AT THIS
TIME. AND FIRST WE WILL GO TO
LINE 73. PLEASE GO AHEAD. NAME
IS JAMES O'BRIEN, LIKE LONG,
CALIFORNIA RESIDENT MEMBER OF
COUPLE YOUR RIFLE ASSOCIATION.
FRIENDLY AND OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
NEXT, WE HAVE LINE 51, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THIS IS GABRIELLE INGRAM
, SACRAMENTO COUNTY RESIDENTS
MEMBER OF THE ARPA. THANK YOU
NEXT WEEK OF LINE. 63, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
MICHAEL FINLEY, DIRECTOR. WE
WOULD LOSE HIM. SEEMED TO HAVE
LOST SIX LINE 63. IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO
AGAIN. I WILL, UM WE WILL GET
YOU BACK IN HERE IN 63, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS MICHAEL
FINLEY, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS WITH THE NATIONAL
SHOOTING SPORTS FOUNDATION. WE
ARE IN STRONG OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LINES
74, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS STEVE RADA. I'M
IN CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION, THE NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION AND I'M A U. S. NAVY
VETERAN AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO
A B 21 56. QUÊ. THANK YOU. NEXT
WE HAVE LINES. 70, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. PAY A GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS DARREN BEDWELL. I'M A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION AND THE
SACRAMENTO CHAPTER. UH AND
FIREARM HOBBYISTS? AYE. STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO THE A B 21 FT. 56.
THANKS HEY, CUTE NEXT YEAR OF
LINE. 34, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS CARLENE ELLIS. REMEMBER
OF THE R P A AND R A G TUBE.
RIGHT? AREN'T WOMEN OF AMERICA.
COMPETITIVE PISTOL SHOOTER AND
I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO A B
21 56. THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
. 75. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON COMMITTEE AGAIN. THIS
IS MIKE ELLIOTT. UM I AM A
MEMBER OF CRP A AND IT'S VENTURA
COUNTY GUN OWNERS CHAPTER AND IN
OUR A AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE A B
2156. THANK YOU. HEY, KIDS.
THANKS. WE HAVE LINE 22, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MR CHAIR. THIS IS TIM
MCMAHON. I'M NOT SURE OF THE
SOUTH SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA REFORM JUST
ASSOCIATION. READY MEMBER IN
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
NEXT WAVE LINE. 69 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS JACK MARSHALL
ON A VOLUNTEER WITH CALIFORNIA
RIFLE ASSOCIATION. I'M ALSO A
LIFE MEMBER OF C R P A AND R A
THE US ARMY DISABLED VETERAN. I
AM IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS
. I WISH YOU FOLKS WOULD GET ON
THE CRIMINALS INSTEAD OF TRYING
TO PUT SO MUCH ON A ON A LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT TO HAVE LINE 57,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AFTERNOON THIS
IS JASON KAMER, PRESIDENT OF
VENTURA COUNTY, CRP A MEMBER AND
REMEMBER, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
A B 21 56. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR
YOUR LINE. 66. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THIS IS JIM WESTFALL, A RESIDENT
OF PREMONT. I'M A MEMBER OF C R
P A. AND THE N R A AND AIR FORCE
VETERAN, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED
THIS BILL 21 56. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WAVE LINE. 49,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS MIKE
MARENCO REMEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE ASSOCIATION,
THE NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
SUNDAY. SHIN, FIREARMS TRAINER
SAFETY ADVOCATE AND I'M OPPOSED
TO THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT YEAR OF LINES.
SECRETARY, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 9
60. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. NEXT WAY
OF LINE. 76, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS RON LANDER
, CHAIRMAN OF THE RIVERS A
CHAPTER CRP, A MEMBER OF THE
NRA, RETIRED MILITARY RETIRED
LAW ENFORCEMENT. OH, THANK YOU.
AND THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE IN
QUÊ. THANK YOU HAVEN'T HEARD
FROM BOTH SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS IT RELATES
TO 21 56. PARENTING. NONE. YOUR
MOTION. BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
SCANNER WE HAVE A D PATH TO
APPROPRIATIONS. UM MR MCCARTHY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
YOU. THIS IS A TECHNICAL BILL,
BUT ITS GOAL IS PRETTY SIMPLE TO
MAKE SURE THAT GUNS AREN'T IN
THE WRONG HANDS TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE WHO SELL AND MANUFACTURE
GUNS IN CALIFORNIA. HAVE PROPER
OVERSIGHT. THIS WILL NOT STOP
INDIVIDUALS FROM LAWFULLY
PURCHASING A FIREARM WHO SHOULD
HAVE SOME AND JUST MAKE SURE
THAT ENTITIES WHO DO SO FOLLOW
APPROPRIATE RULES AND WE HAVE
ADEQUATE OVERSIGHT WITH THAT
ASKED ME, RIGHT, BUT THANK YOU.
COUNCIL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
21 56. 2021 56 BRADFORD KOBO.
TROW, BUGNO KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER,
AYE SKINNER. SKINNER. I WIENER.
WIENER. I 4 TO 1. MEASURES OUT 4
TO 1 NOW OR TO OUR FINAL ITEM.
MAYBE 25 52, MR. MCCARTER FLOOR,
GEORGE. THANK YOU. THIS IS KIND
OF A REPEAT FROM THE DISCUSSION
A LITTLE WHILE AGO ON GUN SHOWS
. THIS IS NOT A PROHIBITION, BUT
IT MAKES SURE THAT THERE'S
ADEQUATE OVERSIGHT. I KNOW ONE
OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TALKED
ABOUT, UM IN. UH WHY IS THERE A
NEED FOR THIS? IF THERE'S
OVERSIGHT, AND, UM I'LL JUST
NOTE THAT A FEW MONTHS AGO, OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL WENT TO A SAND
BRANDY. NO GUN SHOW. AND THEY
FOLLOWED INDIVIDUAL WHO IS ARMED
AND PROHIBITED PERSON WHO WAS
ABLE TO PURCHASE AN AR 15
ASSAULT RIFLE. UM ILLEGALLY THAT
THE VENDOR ESSENTIALLY DID NOT
FOLLOW PROPER. BACKGROUND CHECK
RULES, SO IN ANY GIVEN YEAR IN
CALIFORNIA, THERE ARE ABOUT 100
GUNSHOWS. EXISTING LAW REQUIRES
GUN SHOW PRODUCERS AND VENDORS
TO DIVIDE BY REQUIREMENTS,
INCLUDING CERTIFICATION,
REGISTRATION AND SO FORTH.
DESPITE THESE REQUIREMENTS, UM,
PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS AND IN A
INADEQUATE OVERSIGHT STILL STILL
OCCUR. UM. AGAIN RESEARCH SHOWS
THAT GUN SHOWS, UNFORTUNATELY,
ARE A MAJOR SOURCE OF ILLEGAL
FIREARMS GETTING INTO THE
ILLEGAL MARKET. AND INCREASED
OVERSIGHT OF GUN SHOWS WILL NOT
PUT THESE OUT OF BUSINESS. IT
WILL JUST ENSURE THAT WE HAVE
NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE
REGULATIONS THAT EVERYBODY
FOLLOWS. TO PREVENT FIREARMS AND
FALLING INTO THE WRONG HANDS
AGAIN RIGHT FROM THE HEADLINES.
A FEW MONTHS AGO, SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA MAN WAS ARRESTED AND
CHARGED FOR POSSESSED AN A R 15
GHOST GUN. THAT HE LEGALLY
PURCHASED FROM SAN BONINO GUN
SHOW THIS BILL WOULD SIMPLY
REQUIRE DOJ ENFORCEMENT AT GUN
SHOWS. UM AND AT LEAST HALF OF
THE GUN SHOWS AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO ESSENTIALLY JUST, UM, STEP UP
OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE
ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES LIKE YOU
SEE A GUN. STORES THESE ARE
REASONABLE REQUIREMENTS. AND I
CERTAINLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
TODAY TO HELP MAKE CALIFORNIA
SAFER WITH ME TODAY ARE TWO
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN AND MOMS DEMAND ACTION.
THANK YOU. RIGHT DO WE HAVE THE
TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND WILL
AFFORD YOU TWO MINUTES EACH FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION. JUMPING. GOOD
MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THIS
IS TANYA SHARP, SENIOR COUNSEL
AND DIRECTOR AND STATE AND
FEDERAL POLICY AT THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN
VIOLENCE. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF
THE 552, WHICH REPRESENTS AN
IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
GUNSHOWS SAFER AND THE STATES
AROUND 100 LUNCHES TAKES PLACE
YEARLY AT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA, AND THEY TYPICALLY
SPEAKER DOZENS. HUNDREDS OF
TABLES OF FIREARMS PART TO BUILD
A MODIFIED FIREARMS. SOMETIMES I
FEEL NO TYPE STYLE WEAPONS AND
CUT OFF MILITARY SURPLUS WEAPONS
THAT ARE EASILY ASSEMBLED IN
RECENT YEARS GOES DOWN KIDS AND
SHORT BILL. LIFE OF CONVERSION
KITS HAVE DOMINATED SALES. I GOT
GIVEN A LETHAL NATURE. AND
VOLUME OF FIREARM PARTS AND
AMMUNITION OFFERED FOR SALE AT
GUN SHOWS A LACK OF OVERSIGHT,
COUPLED WITH DANGEROUS AND
IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR, CAN
CREATE SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY
RISKS. THOSE ARE THE SHOWS AND
IN OUR COMMUNITIES STILL WON'T
SURE ADEQUATE OVERSIGHT OF GUN
SHOWS AND ENSURE THAT DANGEROUS
GHOST GUNS AND CONVERSION KIDS
CANNOT BE SOLD AT THE SHOWS. IT
WILL ALSO REQUIRE THE POSTING
ADDITIONAL NEGATIVE RELATED TO
STORAGE HANDLING PURCHASE AND
THAT DIVIDE FIREARMS, WHICH
MIRRORS THE REQUIREMENT FOR
LICENSED DEALERS IN THE STATE.
CURRENTLY CALCIO J FUNDED
CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS AND
INSPECTIONS OF GUN SHOWS IN
CALIFORNIA, BUT THE FUNDING IS
NOT INCREASED IN THE DOJ HAS
LIMITED RESOURCE. IN A 2019
REPORT ATTORNEY GENERAL THEN
ATTORNEY GENERAL. BUT SARAH
WROTE. THAT IS NOT JUST AS OF
DECEMBER 2018 GET STOPPED THE
DOJ ENFORCEMENT INSPECTIONS OF
CALIFORNIA GUNSHOWS. MOREOVER,
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
HAVE BEEN OBSERVE SHOPPING AND
KIND SHOWS RATHER THAN SURI'S
ENSURING NEXT COMPLY WITH
CALIFORNIA LAWS. IT IS PAST TIME
TO ENSURE THAT GUN SHOWS IN THE
STATE OF PROPERLY REGULATED AND
THAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO PROPER
OVERSIGHT. 82 552 ALSO ADDRESSES
THE PART ADDRESSES THE PARTS AND
KITS YOU TO BUILD GOLD SCANS AND
A NEW TREND. UM UH, THE
CONVERSION CASE I MENTIONED
THESE KIDS ARE DESIGNED TO MAKE
A SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN LIKE THE
POPULAR BLOCK INTO A SHORT
BARRELED RIFLE AT FAULT. WHICH
WOULD BE ILLEGAL IN CALIFORNIA.
HURT CONVERSION. KIDS ARE OFTEN
SOLD IN BRIGHT COLOR SCHEMES
SIMILAR TO NERF GUNS FOR
CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THESE
EVENTS. ASSEMBLY BILL 255 TO
ALSO ADD THE NECESSARY MANDATORY
THAT OVERSIGHT MEASURES AND ADDS
RESTRICTIONS TO GUN SHOWS TO
ENSURE COMPLIANCE AND INCREASE
PUBLIC SAFETY AGAIN CHOSEN IN
OUR COMMUNITIES. CALIFORNIA IS A
LEADER IN GUN VIOLENCE
PREVENTION AGAINST SAFETY. WE
CANNOT ALLOW GUNSHOWS TO
FUNCTION WITHOUT THE SAFETY
PROVISIONS. AND WITH INCREASED
SIGNS VENDORS, VENDORS WILL BE
MORE INSTEAD DEVICE TO COMPLY
AND UM, WE SUPPORT AN URGENCY
FOR THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. IS YOUR SECOND
WITNESS AND SUPPORT. NO, THEY'RE
NOT SO. BRINGING IT BACK TO ROOM
1 12. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 52?
SEE NONE WILL GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 52? THANK
YOU TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B
25 52 PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO
ON YOUR PHONE. AND WE WILL GO TO
LINE 71. PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS THERE AN EMAIL
OF REPRESENTING DIFFERENT OFTEN
PARTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
THAT IS ALL THAT I HAD IN QUÊ.
ALRIGHT NOW WE'LL MOVE TO
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE RICK TRAVIS
WAS THE PRIMARY WITNESS AND
OPPOSITION. SAYS MR TRAVIS
PREPARED TO TESTIFY. THE START.
YES I AM. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN
STANDARDS FOR THE RECORD. TRAVIS
DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, CALIFORNIA
REFORM PISTOL ASSOCIATION. HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE ENTER IN
GENERAL, THE CALIFORNIA AND OUR
MEMBERS TO SPEAK AND STRONG
OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL 25
50 TO THE ANTI GUN BUSINESS TO
TALK ABOUT THE REAL PREVIOUS
TESTIMONY WOULD LIKE TO POST TO
BELIEVE THERE'S GUNSHOTS RIPPLES
, WHICH ONE OUT FOR A PERSON TO
GET ASKED US TO FARMS JUST BY
TENANT GUNSHOT. I'D LIKE THE
PUBLIC TO BELIEVE THAT THE
LATEST ARMS AND AMMUNITIONS ARE
FREELY TREATED PERSONS ATTENDING
GUNSHOTS WITH ANY TYPE OF LEGAL
ON THE CASE. REMEMBER THE
CATIONS, WHICH JUST IS NOT TRUE.
FOR YEARS STANDARDS ASSEMBLYMAN
IN THE RETARD DLT WITNESSES
TESTIFIED IN COMMITTEES SUCH AS
THIS TO NUMEROUS VIOLATIONS OF
GUNSHOTS AND THE PARKING LOT,
HOWEVER, WHEN THE CALIFORNIA WE
LOST HIM. ON MY BACK. MANY 100
HOURS. BARELY. LET'S SEE. LET'S
CONTINUE. ALRIGHT THERE WE ARE.
EUROPEANS OUT J TWO GOVERNORS
COUNTY SHERIFFS AND REPRESENTS
THE PREVIOUS EVIDENCE THAT
SUPPORTS YOUR STATEMENTS. NONE
HAVE PROVED ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL
. THESE CLAIMS MAKING
UNSUPPORTED CLAIMS THE DECISION
MAKING PROCESS FOR LEGISLATORS
AND YOURSELF. AND TODAY WAS
DECISIONS WITHOUT THAT
SUBSTANTIATED HAVE BEEN BASED ON
SUNDAY. 20 FROM OTHERS AND
OPERATORS OF GUNSHOTS IN
CALIFORNIA COMPLY WITH NO LESS
THAN 26 SESSIONS OF PENAL CODE
THERE HAD TO REGULATE THIS. AND
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYBODY HERE UNDERSTANDS THAT
BEFORE THEY CAPTURED VOTE WERE
ALSO WANT TO BRING UP AS I HAVE
IN PREVIOUS AS MONEY THAT WE
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN MORE
LEGISLATION GOING AFTER THE
24,000 KNOWN ARMED PROHIBITED
FELONS THAT CONFUSED AGO IN
CALIFORNIA, WE NEED TO GET THE
CRIMINALS THAT HAVE PROVEN THAT
THEY WILL USE FIREARMS AND BE
THE WAY OFF THE STREET. WE DO
NOT SEE HOW THE SIGNAGE
SUGGESTED IN THIS, BUT IT
STOPPED ANYONE OF THOSE STONES
FROM TO ME THAT SOMEONE MEANS
THAT THEY HAVE THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA IS THAT THE VERY
FOUNDATION OF ORGANIZATION HAS
BEEN A CONSISTENT GOAL TO WORK
TOWARDS COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS
ARE GOING TO ISSUE CLIMATE PLAN
UNDERSTOOD. THIS CAN BE DONE,
HOWEVER, WITHOUT SACRIFICING
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND ABILITY
. A LOT OF BUYING TO PROTECT
THEIR FAMILIES HAPPENS LIKE
INTENSITY TO THEM. THIS CAN BE
DONE WITHOUT FURTHER
COMPLICATING OR ACTUALLY
BREEDING FARMS AND INNOCENT AND
FIREARMS PART TO REPAIR THE
QUENTIN WE CHOOSED IN JULY. FOR
THESE REASONS, WE ENCOURAGE YOU
TO STAND IN OPPOSITION BETWEEN 5
52. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL COME
BACK TO ROOM 1 12. THERE'S ARE
THERE. ANYONE WISHING TO
SPEAKING OPPOSITION. MAYBE 25
52. SHE AIN'T NO ONE MODERATOR.
NOW LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES
AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE
WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
OF 25 52. THANK YOU TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. AND FIRST WE WILL
HAVE LINE 51. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI. THIS IS GABRIELLE INGRAM
SIGNAL BACK. R P A THESE THINGS.
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 63, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
MICHAEL FINLEY, DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR
AMERICA'S FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS
. AND WE STAND IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
WAVE LINES. 78, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEVE
RADA AND WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION,
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION
IN THE US NAVY VETERAN AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED A B 25 52.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS WE
HAVE LINE 34, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CARLENE
ELLIS. I REMEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION, THE A PROJECT WOMEN
FOR GUN RIGHTS. ARMED WOMEN IN
AMERICA AND I'M A COMPETITIVE
PISTOL SHOOTER WHO SOMETIMES
NEEDS TO FIX MY GUN. I AM IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO A B 25 52.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EXCUSE
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 22, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. TERRORISTS MCMAHON ON THE
CHAIR OF THE SOUTH SACRAMENTAL
CHAPTER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION. AND
STRONG. THANK YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE
LINE 77, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS JACK MARSHALL. I'M A N R
. A LIFETIME MEMBERS OF EUROPEAN
LIFETIME MEMORY IN VOLUNTEER,
ALSO U. S ARMY, DISABLED
VETERANS AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS MEASURE. I THINK YOU'RE
BETTER OFF WAYS YOU'RE WASTING
YOUR TIME HERE, AND I THINK
YOU'RE BETTER OFF GOING AFTER
THE TRUE CRIMINALS INSTEAD OF
LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. THANK YOU.
AND NEXT IN LINE, 66, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. WELL WHAT LINE DID YOU
SAY? 66? YES SIR. UH THIS IS JIM
WEST, FOLLOWED WITH THIS CHEAT R
P A. N R A AND THEN AIRPORTS
VETERAN. THEN I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND NEXT, WE HAVE
LINE 79, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS
MIKE BARRANCO AND THE NUMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE ASSOCIATION
FOR FEEDING SPORTS FOUNDATION.
I'M A FIREARM SAFETY INSTRUCTOR
. AND I'M OPPOSED TO MAYBE 25
50. THANK YOU. AND NEXT, WE HAVE
LINES. 73 PLEASE GO AHEAD. NAME
IS JAMES O'BRIEN. LIFETIME UH,
COUPLE OF YOUR RESIDENTS
STRONGLY OPPOSED. THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE LINED 76, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS RON LANDERS CRP, A CHAIRMAN.
RIVERSIDE COUNTY STRONGLY
OPPOSED THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
AND NEXT, WE HAVE LINE 80,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THREE THIS IS
RENEE NIELSEN. I'M A MOM OF TWO
AND I ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN SHOOT
. BUT I WOULD LIKE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP MY RIGHTS
AND THE RIGHTS FOR MY FAMILY. SO
I STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND NEXT, WE HAVE
LINE 57, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. THIS IS JASON CAMERON
, RESIDENT OF VENTURA COUNTY TRP
MEMBER AND I REMEMBER AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED MAYBE 25 52.
THANK YOU AND NEXT YEAR OF LINE
64, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 9 64. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HELLO. YEAH. YES.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI I'M I'M I'M
CARE, HUGH. I'M A CIA. YEAH. ER,
PA AND THEY ARE A MEMBER AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED BUILT 2500 TO.
THANK YOU. AND THAT IS ALL THAT
I HAVE IN QUÊ. THANK YOU HAVEN'T
HEARD FROM BOTH SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION. NOW WE'LL BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ARE
THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?
COMMITTEE SENATOR CALM WATER. NO
I WASN'T GONNA ACTUALLY SAY
ANYTHING BUT BETWEEN THIS BILL
AND THE LAST BILL, I DO FEEL
COMPELLED. UM I ACTUALLY AGREE
WITH SOME, UM ARGUMENTS MADE BY
THE OPPOSITION ENFORCED
ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS GOING TO
BE SUBJECTIVE, AND IT'S ALWAYS
GOING TO BE INCONSISTENT. I
THINK THAT'S WHY WE ACTUALLY
FIND SO MANY OF THE BILLS THAT
WE WORK ON THROUGH THIS
COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT
MORE. UM EQUITABLE AND FAIR AND
CONSISTENT. AND I WILL ALSO ADD
THAT WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, UM
ENFORCEMENT AND CHARGES
DISPROPORTIONATELY SEEMED TO BE
LEVIED AGAINST BLACK AND BROWN
MEN. ABSOLUTELY TRUE. BUT THE
OPPOSITION I HAVE TO TELL YOU
YOU ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE
IF NOT EVERY DAY EVERY OTHER
DAY. THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE
NEWS WHERE INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE
BEING GUNNED DOWN. WITH GUNS.
AND SO. IF YOU WANT TO WORK ON
SOMETHING, THEN FIND THE TABLE
AND GET TO IT SO THAT WE CAN
COME UP WITH RESPONSIBLE GUN
REFORM. WHERE EVERYONE CAN BUY
INTO IT. AND WHAT? REALLY. AND
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S AN
EPIDEMIC BECAUSE THIS IS AN
EPIDEMIC THAT WE ARE IN. I WILL
ALSO SAY THAT I AM OFFENDED BY
FOLKS WHO CALL IN WHO SAY GO
AFTER THE CRIMINALS BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. WAS
THAT YOUNG MAN, A CRIMINAL.
BEFORE HE SHOT EVERYONE UP IN
BUFFALO. WAS THAT YOUNG PERSON A
CRIMINAL BEFORE HE SHOT UP THOSE
BABIES IN TEXAS. SO IT ISN'T
ABOUT GOING AFTER THE CRIMINALS
3/4 OF THE BILLS THAT WE LOOK AT
OUR ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT YOU ARE
DEEMING TO BE CRIMINALS. WE HAVE
GONE BEYOND THAT NARRATIVE.
BECAUSE NOW IT'S NOT ABOUT THE
STEREOTYPICAL DEFINITION OF A
CRIMINAL. IT IS ABOUT THE FOLKS
THAT WE AS A SOCIETY HAVE DEEMED
TO BE LAW ABIDING. AND GET IT.
CLEAR. THE REALITY IS THAT SOME
GUNS ARE NOT NECESSARY. THE
REALITY IS, IS THAT HAVING
CERTAIN QUANTITIES OF GUNS IS
REALLY GLUTTONOUS AND
INAPPROPRIATE. THE REALITY IS WE
SHOULD HAVE SOME KINDS OF
RESTRICTIONS. ON LETHAL WEAPONS
LIKE GUNS. WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS
ON THE USE OF PHARMACEUTICALS.
HOW MANY REFILLS YOU CAN GET IF
YOU CAN GET A PRESCRIPTION.
BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN DIE. SO I'M
SO TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING IN
SAYING GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS.
BECAUSE I'M SO TIRED OF READING
BILLS THAT ARE ALL ABOUT WHO YOU
DECIDE IS A CRIMINAL. WE ARE
BEYOND THAT. SO IF YOU REALLY
WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THEN
STOP LEANING ON RACIST,
DEMEANING, LAZY TROPES. N BE
HONEST ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON
RIGHT NOW IN OUR COUNTRY. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
SENATOR JOE BOOK. SO. I AGREE.
WE DO HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS
AND STUFF. BUT I UM JUST WANT TO
COMMENT BEFORE I ADDRESS THE
AUTHOR. AND MY COMMENTS WITH THE
BILL, BUT I JUST I THINK I THINK
WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY
CALL IN THERE TO TALK ABOUT
ADDRESSING THE ACTUAL CRIMINALS
AND GOING AFTER THE CRIMINALS I
THINK ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE IN
THE STREAM BROUGHT TO MY
ATTENTION. I JUST THOUGHT I
MENTIONED THAT YOU THE GENTLEMAN
THAT DID THE SHOOTING HERE IN
SACRAMENTO, WHO, UH, WAS A
CONVICTED FELON WHO WAS RELEASED
PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT THEY WERE
SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED. TO
ACQUIRE THE GUN ILLEGALLY. HE
WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT.
LEAST EARLIER, THEY FULFILLING
HIS FULL SENTENCE AND UM AND DID
THE SHOOTING. SO I THINK THAT'S
WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO WHEN
THEY ADDRESS. UM, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE WHO ARE CRIMINALS AND
GOING AFTER THEM HAVING SERVED
THEIR FULL SENTENCES AND, UM,
BEING LOCKED AWAY AS LONG AS IT
SHOULD BE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT
THEY'RE THEY'RE REFERRING TO. I
JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAVE
HEARD. GOING BACK TO THIS BILL.
UM, REMEMBER RECORDING I'M GOING
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. AND THE
REASON I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL IS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE
THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM,
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, UM AND SO
FORTH. DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE
SHARING INFORMATION. I THINK IT
IT HELPS HAVE A TEAMWORK OF
SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT CREATES A
FRAMEWORK THAT ACTUALLY DOES
HELP A LITTLE BIT MORE. I KNOW
THE BIG BROTHER WOULD HAVE A
PROBLEM. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING
SOMETHING ILLEGALLY. ONE AGENCY
OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD INFORM
THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES. UM AND HAVE THAT TYPE
OF, UM. COMMUNICATIONS IN ORDER
TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE WORK
THAT THEY'RE DOING SO IN THAT
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, I IF I
UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, FROM WHAT
I READ, THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE
BILL, RIGHT? NO. I HAVE. WELL
YOU'RE SAYING ALL THESE GREAT
WORDS AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
THEM OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. BUT YOU
MAY BE REFERRING TO THE BILL
THAT I HAVE ON CONSENT. THAT'S
ON TODAY'S DOCKET AS WELL. 25 51
? YES OKAY. I'M SORRY. SORRY
CONTINUE LOOKING AT THAT ONE IS
WELL, TO BE HONEST GUYS. THAT'S
THAT'S THE BILL THAT AND WORKING
WITH SENATOR NIELSEN ON CONSENT
CALENDAR. SORRY, I DID NOT HAVE
THAT HERE, SO I APOLOGIZE THAT I
WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE.
BUT YES, I STICK TO THOSE POINTS
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT I JUST SAW
MCCARTHY AND I WAS JUST READING
THE BILL. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR
THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THE SCREEN
WITH THE WITH THE NUMBERS OF THE
BILLS ON THERE, SO I APOLOGIZE.
MY MISTAKE. SO I WILL. STOP
THERE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS HERE IN
JUNE NINE. I TOO, WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR WHAT I AGAIN THINK OF
THE COMMENTS SINCE MEASURE AND I
COULDN'T HAVE STAYED AT ANY
BETTER THAN MY COLLEAGUE FROM
LOS ANGELES AS IT RELATES TO OH,
WHO THE CRIMINAL IS AND WHO THE
BAD GUYS ARE. THE MAJORITY OF
THESE SHOOTINGS ARE HAPPENING BY
PEOPLE WHO ARE LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS WHO HAVE ACQUIRED THEIR
WEAPONS LEGALLY. AND YES, THERE
ARE CRIMINALS OUT THERE. WO DO
BAD THINGS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF
THESE WEAPONS HAVE BEEN IN THE
HANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ACQUIRE
THEM LEGALLY AND MAYBE BECAUSE
OF EASY ACCESS TO HIM. THEY'VE
CHOSEN TO DO BAD THINGS WITH
HIM, SO I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS MEASURE. SO AT THAT NOTE,
MR MCCARTHY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE A GUN CRISIS IN OUR
COUNTRY. AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING
. WE'RE ALL OUR TOURING WHEN WE
SEE THESE IMAGES OF YOUNG PEOPLE
LOSING THEIR LIVES, KIDS AND
BABIES AND SENIORS WHO JUST
LIVING THEIR LIVES AND
CALIFORNIA GUN LAWS WORK. YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE 100 GUN LAWS. AND
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT BECAUSE OF
THESE LAWS YOU KNOW, WERE TWICE
AS LIKELY TO BE SAFE COMPARED TO
OTHER STATES AND 50% 50% MORE
LIKELY OR LESS LIKELY TO BE A
VICTIM IN A MASS SHOOTING. SO
ALL THESE THINGS WORK, THEY'RE
NOT DRACONIAN TAKING. GUNS AWAY
. SOME PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT'S
ALL RIFLES SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY
. BUT THIS IS JUST PROPER
OVERSIGHT OF GUN SHOWS IN
CALIFORNIA, WHICH HAVE SHOWN TO
HAVE UM, LAX REGULATION PEOPLE
GOING IN AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING
NOW THEY'RE GOING IN AND BUYING
THESE GHOST GUN KITS BECAUSE
THEY DON'T HAVE PROPER SERIAL
NUMBERS. AND WE KNOW THAT THIS
IS WHAT YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT FINDS AT
THE CRIME SCENES. AND SO THIS
MAKES SURE THAT THESE FIREARMS
ARE SOLD AND ILLEGAL AND SAFE
MANNER. AND WITH THAT,
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR RIVAL.
QUÊ DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON FALL
ITEM SIX. 25 52 WE HAVE A MOTION
BY SENATOR SCANNER. WE HAVE TO
DO PATH TO APPROPRIATIONS
COUNCIL. PLEASE CALL THE ROAD 25
52 MCCARTHY, BRADFORD KOBOKO.
KOBO GUY KAMLAGER KAMLAGER EYES
SKINNER. SKINNER. I WIENER.
WIENER ON THE MCCARTHY WIENER?
AYE. 5 TO 0 MEASURE HAS FIVE
VOTES. YOU'RE SUCCESSFULLY OUT.
THANK YOU, MR MCCARTY. UH THAT
CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA. NOW WE'RE
GOING TO LIFT THE ROLE FOR THOSE
ITEMS ON CALL. COUNTER PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON FOLLOW ITEM
ONE. A B 16 21 GIBSON. THE VOTE
IS 2 TO 0 KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER
AYE, WIENER WIENER. I 4 TO 0.
MEASURES OUT FOR THE ZERO FILE
ITEM TO BE 17 69 BENNETT THE
VOTES 3 TO 0 SKINNER. AND OR I
4200 THAT MEASURES OUT FOLLOWING
ON THREE THAT ONE. WE THAT ONE'S
OUT. NUMBER FOUR IS OUT. ALSO
OKAY, NOW I'M MOVING IN FIVE.
THIS IS THE CONSENT ITEM. MAYBE
25 51 KAMLAGER. KAMLAGER. AYE,
WIENER. WINNER I, AND THAT'S 5
TO 0, AND THAT'S WILL ASK BILL.
THAT'S IT, OKAY, MEMBERS. THAT
INCLUDES OUR AGENDA. I WANT TO
THANK ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATED IN THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY TODAY IF YOU WERE NOT
ABLE TO TESTIFY FOR ANY REASON
TODAY, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR
COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS IN
WRITING. TO THE SENATE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR
WEBSITE. YOUR COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US
, AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY IN THE OFFICIAL
HEARING RECORDS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, AND WE APPRECIATE
YOUR PARTICIPATION. THANK
EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
COOPERATION. THANK STAFF WERE
GREAT WORK AGAIN, AND WE HAVE
CONCLUDED TODAY'S AGENDA AGENDA
OF THE SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE. WE STAND ADJOURNED.