ALRIGHT. THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER
GOOD AFTERNOON AS WE CONTINUE TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS AND MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISK. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC TOUR HEARINGS HAS
PROVIDED ACCESS TO BOTH IN
PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION. PUBLIC COMMENT.
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS,
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER AND
ACCESS CODES. POSTS ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE WILL BE
DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN. I WILL
ANNOUNCE IT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 877. 2268
AND THE ACCESS CODE IS 64 8862.
FOR DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW
THE TELECONFERENCE SYSTEM WORKS
. PLEASE REFER TO THE SENTENCE,
SENATE AND JUDICIARY. COMMITTEE
WEBSITES WILL MAINTAIN DECORUM
DURING THE HEARING IS HIS
CUSTOMARY AND ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO
IS DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED
FROM THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE
OR WHETHER CONNECTIONS MUTED.
WE'RE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARING HERE IN THE STREET
BUILDING ALSO KNOWS THE SWING
SPACE. I ASK ALL MEMBERS OF
COMMITTEE TO COME TO ROOM 2100.
THANK YOU, SENATOR RASO. UM AS
SOON AS WE ESTABLISH A QUORUM,
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO START
THE SUBCOMMITTEE. WHEN WE
ESTABLISH QUORUM, WE WILL TAKE
UP THE CONSENT CALENDAR. UM ALL
RIGHT. UM WE DO NOT HAVE A
QUORUM YET. WE'RE LOOKING FOR
OTHER MEMBERS. UM, LET ME BEFORE
WE STARTED THE CONSENT CALENDAR
WILL ANNOUNCE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. WE WON'T TAKE A VOTE
ON IT, BUT I'M GOING TO ANNOUNCE
IT, UM THE, UH, PROCEDURE FOR
TODAY WILL BE THE SAME AS OTHER
DAYS. HERE IN JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE. ALL BILLS BE LIMITED
TO SUPPORT OPPOSITION WITNESSES
WHO WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK FOR
TWO MINUTES EACH, ALL OTHERS
WISHING TO TESTIFY MUST LIMIT
THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR NAME,
THEIR AFFILIATION AND POSITION
ON THE MEASURE. THERE WILL BE A
TIME LIMIT OF 15 MINUTES FOR
CALLS AND SUPPORT AND 15 MINUTES
FOR CALLS AND OPPOSITION. TODAY
WE HAVE A QUITE ROBUST CONSENT
CALENDAR. THE ITEMS AND THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ARE AS FOLLOWS.
FILLEM NUMBER THREE A. B 2711 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COLORADO WITH
AMENDMENTS FILE THEM NUMBER SIX
A B 2391 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CUNNINGHAM. PYLON NUMBER SEVEN A
B 2866 BY SIMILAR MEMBER
CUNNINGHAM. PROBLEM NUMBER EIGHT
A. B 2917 BY SEVEN MEMBER MIKE
FONG. FILM NUMBER 11 A B 2 TO 45
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS FILE.
I'M NUMBER 12 A B 1906 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S STONE FILM
NUMBER 13 82 899 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TANK. FILM
NUMBER 14 A B 2872 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AKILA. WHOEVER.
ALL RIGHT. UM SO WE WILL SOON
PROCEED. I SEE THAT WE HAVE AN
AUTHOR HERE. UM, WE ALSO WE
WELCOME, NATHAN. NATHAN'S ORG
AND JOANNA SUCK. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FROM LOVE. ANAHEIM MY
NONPROFIT OF THE YEAR, SO THANK
YOU FOR BEING IN ATTENDANCE
TODAY. YES, YEAH, THAT'D BE
APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT.WE NOW WE NOW HAVE, UH,
THE FULL CONTINGENT REPUBLICANS
, BUT YOU'RE LACKING A NUMBER OF
DEMOCRATS. SO IF WE GET JUST
FOUR MORE MEMBERS HERE WE WILL
HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT UM, LET'S
START AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. AH SOME
OF THE MEMBER ASSEMBLY LEADER
GALLAGHER, ARE YOU PREPARED?
THANK YOU, BROTHER IN THE BOND,
GO AHEAD. LET HIM EXPLAIN WHAT
THAT MEANS LATER ON. RIGHT?
WELL, THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN AND
I WILL START BY APOLOGIZING FOR
NOT WEARING A TIE. UH TOOK THAT
OFF THIS MORNING AND FORGOT TO
TURN IT AND PUT IT BACK ON
BEFORE I CAME INTO YOUR
COMMITTEE ROOMS. I'M SORRY.
APOLOGIES BORDER CHAIR. SENATOR
BORDERS? YES. I'M NOT CERTAIN
THAT WITH THAT BREACH OF DECORUM
THAT WE SHOULD BE ALLOWING THIS
INDIVIDUAL TO PRESENT TODAY I
WOULD COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
YEAH WITH REPUBLICANS OBJECTING,
UM. AH, I'LL LET YOU PROCEED,
HOWEVER. ALRIGHT. ONE SECOND,
SOME OF THEM. OKAY? THANK YOU,
SIR. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE THAT
INDULGENCE BECAUSE WE ARE. WE
ARE FRATERNITY BROTHERS. AND
THAT IS, UH, THAT'S WHY HE
RETURNED, UH, REFERRED TO ME AS
SUCH MEMBERS OF THE OF THE VERY
PRESTIGIOUS VITAL TO THEATER
FRATERNITY. UH, THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN, AND, UH, GETTING TO
THE POINT. GETTING TO THE POINT
. AND SENATOR JONES WAS THE ONE
WHO REMINDED ME OF MY, UH,
INADEQUACY HERE. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. I WANTED TO START BY
JUST THANKING THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT
MEASURE THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS,
UH, LOOPHOLE FOR FRAUD. AND THE
CURRENT SYSTEM OF L. L. C UH,
FILINGS OF STATEMENTS OF
INFORMATION. SO UNDER CURRENT
LAW TO FORM ANALYSIS, YOU ACCEPT
THE AMENDMENTS HAS PROPOSED. I
DO INDEED. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN. SO UNDER CURRENT LAW
TO FORM AN LLC. CERTAIN
INFORMATION MUST BE FILED WITH
THE SECRETARY OF STATE, SUCH AS
THE ADDRESS, CONTACT INFORMATION
FOR MANAGING MEMBERS AND TYPE OF
BUSINESS. GENERALLY THIS IS
PROVIDED THROUGH WHAT IS CALLED
A STATEMENT OF INFORMATION THAT
IS UPDATED EVERY TWO YEARS OR
SOONER. IF CERTAIN INFORMATION
CHANGES, MAYBE 13 81 WOULD
SIMPLY REQUIRE THE SECRETARY OF
STATE TO NOTIFY LLC MEMBERS WHEN
AN UPDATED AS A STATEMENT OF
INFORMATION IS FILED. THE
CURRENT STATEMENT OF INFORMATION
FILING PROCESS ALLOWS
INDIVIDUALS THERE'S A LOOPHOLE
HERE FOR PEOPLE TO HIJACK
LEGITIMATE LLCS WITH FRAUDULENT
FILINGS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
DEFRAUDING CONSUMERS, LENDERS
AND TITLE INSURANCE COMPANIES.
AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE SENDS
AUTOMATED ALERTS NOTIFYING
FILERS OF UPCOMING FILING
DEADLINES. HOWEVER THE CURRENT
FILING PROCESS DOES NOT PROVIDE
A NOTICE OF A NEW AND
POTENTIALLY FRAUDULENT STATEMENT
OF INFORMATION IS FILED. A B 13
81 WOULD REMEDY THIS ISSUE, AND
AS I SAID, I'M ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS ARE OUTLINED ON PAGE
SIX OF THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS TO
HELP ADDRESS THE SECRETARY OF
STATE'S CONCERNS. AND ALSO WITH
ME TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT AS
ANTHONY HELTON WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LAND AND TITLE
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. MR
HILTON. ARE YOU ON THE PHONE?
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. YES I'M
HERE. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, MR
HELEN HELTON. OKAY THANK YOU.
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, OUR
MEMBERS HAVE ENCOUNTERED
FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY IN WHICH BAD
ACTORS ABUSED SECRETARY OF STATE
FILING SYSTEM. IN ORDER TO STEAL
BUSINESSES IDENTITIES AND THEN
USE THE STOLEN IDENTITIES TO
TAKE OUT FRAUDULENT LOANS
AGAINST BUSINESS ASSETS. EVERY
13 81 IS AN ANTI FRAUD MEASURES
INTENDED TO ADD PROTECTIONS
AGAINST BUSINESS, IDENTITY THEFT
AND ASSOCIATED FRAUD. BY
REQUIRING THAT PILOTS BE
NOTIFIED WHEN THEIR INFORMATION
HAS BEEN UPDATED. THIS BILL
HELPS ENSURE THE TARGETS OF
BUSINESS IDENTITY THAT CAN TAKE
THE NEEDED STEPS TO PREVENT
FRAUD BEFORE IT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
MAYBE 13 81 ALIGNS WITH BEST
PRACTICE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SECRETARIES OF STATE. AND IS IN
RESPONSE TO SUSTAIN ATTEMPTS AT
BUSINESS IDENTITY STEPS
ENCOUNTERED BY OUR MEMBERS. IT
IS NOT INTENDED TO REQUIRE THE
SECRETARY OF STATE TO TAKE ANY
ADDITIONAL STEPS OR ALTER
EXISTING PRACTICES OTHER THAN TO
SEND A NOTICE TO AN LLC AFTER A
STATEMENT OF INFORMATION HAS
BEEN FILED. WHAT RECENT CHANGES
TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S
WEBSITE ARE WELCOME TO MAKE THE
SYSTEM MORE SECURE. WE DO NOT
THINK THOSE IMPROVEMENTS REDUCED
THE VALUE OFFERED BY THIS BILL,
WHICH WOULD HELP ENSURE THAT
FILERS ARE NOTIFIED IF THEIR
ACCOUNT IS COMPROMISED AND HAS
BECOME A TARGET OF FRAUD. THE
SAME FUNCTIONALITY IS ALREADY
OFFERED BY OTHER INSTITUTIONS
TARGETED BY FRAUDSTERS SUCH AS
THING WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS
RECENTLY PROVIDED BY THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AND
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED
PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION TO ADDRESS
THEIR CONCERNS. WOULD ALSO LIKE
TO THANK THE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR PROVIDING US WITH AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DIALOGUE
ON THIS BILL. WE THINK THIS IS
AN IMPORTANT ISSUE IN NEED OF A
FIX AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR IPHONE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MS. SHELTON UM OTHERS IN
SUPPORT HERE IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM, SEEING NO ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE ON
THE PHONE, MR MODERATOR. IF YOU
WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE ON THE
PHONE, WE SHOULD TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 1381. WE'D BE
GRATEFUL.
MODERATOR. YES LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WISH TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT FOR ABBY 13
81, PLEASE PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED
BY ZERO. SORRY, MISS GERALD'S
MUTED. I APOLOGIZE. REMINDER,
PLEASE PRESS 10. AND WE DO HAVE
ONE QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE.
PLEASE TAKE. THIS OPPORTUNITY
AND PRESS 10 CURE. WHILE WE'RE
WAITING FOR FOLKS TO CURE UP,
QUEUE UP. UM, WE HAVE 100%
ATTENDANCE BY THE REPUBLICAN AH!
GREW UP TO THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE 33%
ATTENDANCE BY THE DEMOCRATS. SO
IF WE HAD ONE MORE DEMOCRAT WILL
HAVE A QUORUM SO OKAY,
MODERATOR. WE'LL GO TO LINE 42
YOU ARE OPEN. HIKING, AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS ERIN NORWOOD.
AND SUPPORT TESTIFYING ON BEHALF
OF THE INDEPENDENT INSURANCE
AGENTS AND BROKERS OVER THE
WEST. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL GIVE
ONE FINAL REMINDER TO QUEUE UP.
IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO. AND
NOBODY ELSE'S QUEUING UP THIS
TIME. ALRIGHT LET ME LET ME ONE
MORE TIME REPEAT THE PARTICIPANT
NUMBER AS WELL AS THE ACCESS
CODE FOR THOSE THAT ARE
LISTENING OR WATCHING THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBER TODAY IS
87722681. THE ACCESS CODE IS
648862. IT MAY ALSO BE AVAILABLE%
IN THE SENATE, UM AND OR
JUDICIARY WEBSITES, ALTHOUGH I
DO NOT SEE IT POSTED ON UM AH,
ON THE TV MONITOR. ALL RIGHT. UM. THOSE IN OPPOSITION. ANYONE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM IN
OPPOSITION. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE
DO HAVE ONE PERSON LISTED AS
PRIMARY AND OPPOSITION. UH TED
MAUL HAUSER, MR MUEHLHAUSER. ARE
YOU ON THE PHONE?
DO NOT SEE HIM LISTED AS ONE OF
THE SPEAKERS. IS MR MUEHLHAUSER
HERE? IF MR MO HAZAR APPEARS OR
APPEARS ON THE PHONE DURING THE
COMMITTEE'S QUESTIONING, THEN,
UM, MODERATE IF YOU'D LET ME
KNOW. ALRIGHT UM, ANYONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION ON THE PHONE LINE? IF
YOU ARE AN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
PRESS ONE FALL BY ZERO. AND THAT
IS FOR BILL A B 13 81. PLEASE
PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO IF
YOU WERE IN OPPOSITION TO A B 13
81 AND WE HAVE ONE WITH AN
OPERATOR. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
AND WE'RE GONNA LINE 39. YOU ARE
OPEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SENATOR UMBERG, MR. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. THIS IS TED MUEHLHAUSER
, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
SECRETARY OF STATE SURELY AND
WEBER, PHD SECRETARY DOES HAVE
AN OPPOSED POSITION ON THIS
BILL. WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT
IS A WELL INTENTIONED TO
MEASURE. WE DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT HIS WORK ABILITY.
I WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR IS
SOMETHING MEMBER GALLAGHER. AND
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR ENGAGING
IN CONVERSATION ON SOME OF THE
SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE
REGARDING THE BILL. WE
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS TAKEN
TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANY
FURTHER IN ADDITIONAL
DISCUSSIONS WE MAY BE ABLE TO
HAVE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, MR MUEHLHAUSER.
ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION ON THE PHONE? NOBODY
DID QUÊ UP. I WILL GIVE THE
INSTRUCTIONS ONE MORE TIME. 10
IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO A B
13 81 ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. LET'S
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
SEEING UH, ALL RIGHT. SO YOU
KNOW QUESTIONS. MR JONES.
SENATOR JONES MOVES THE BILL.
AH, ALL RIGHT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GALLAGHER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? QUORUM, OKAY? OH, WE
CAN'T MOVE THE YOU SHOULDN'T
HAVE MOVED THE BILL. YEAH I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR RIVAL
MOTION HAS BEEN RESCINDED WHEN
THE TIME OCCURRED, HAS BEEN
RESCINDED. UM BUT BUT YEAH,
ALRIGHT, AND WE'RE STILL WE'RE
STILL AT 100% PARTICIPATION BY
THE REPUBLICANS AND 33%
ANTICIPATION BY DEMOCRATS. IF WE
HAVE ONE MORE DEMOCRAT, WE'LL
HAVE A QUORUM. SO ALL RIGHT.
SOME OF THEM WERE GALLAGHER.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING
MORE? JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I VOTE WHEN THERE IS A
MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL, HOLD THAT
IN THE BANDS. UM. ITEM NUMBER.
T OH, GREAT. SOME OF THE MEMBER. BAUER-KAHAN IS HERE. UM WE DO
NOT HAVE A QUORUM. BUT IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU HAVE THE
FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND
PERHAPS OUR DEMOCRATIC
COLLEAGUES WILL AS YOU SUGGESTED
. JOIN US TO HEAR THIS RIVETING
PRESENTATION. FIRST I WANT TO
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND THE
STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
THIS BILL AND I ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS. THE COMMITTEE HAS
ADDRESSED IT ON THE BILL. THE
AMENDMENTS WILL INCREASE THE
FINE FOR VIOLATIONS TO $10,000
IN CLARIFY THE DEFINITIONS FOR
VIOLATIONS AND WHAT CONSTITUTES
THE GENDER RING OF PRODUCTS WITH
THAT I'M HERE TO PRESENT 12 87,
WHICH PROHIBITS DIFFERENTIAL
PRICING ON THE BASIS OF GENDER,
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE PINK TAX.
WOMEN PAY MORE ON AVERAGE FOR
PRODUCTS MARKETED TO THEM, A
PHENOMENON KNOWN AS THE PINK
TAX. MULTIPLE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN
THAT WOMEN ON AVERAGE PAY 7%
MORE FOR GENDER ITEMS LIKE
TOILETRIES AND CLOTHING. THEY
ALSO FACE HIGHER PRICES FOR
SEEMINGLY NEUTRAL PRODUCTS LIKE
MORTGAGE RATES. THESE PRICES.
DIFFERENCES ADD UP, A CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATIVE STUDY ESTIMATED THE
YEAR AFTER YEAR, A TYPICAL
CALIFORNIA WOMAN PAYS ABOUT
$2381. MORE FOR THE SAME GOODS
AND SERVICES THAN HER MALE
COUNTERPART. THIS ARBITRARILY
PENALIZES WOMEN UP TO $47
BILLION EACH YEAR. WOMEN HAVE
BEEN HIT HARD DURING THE
PANDEMIC. ECONOMIC INEQUITIES
BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN HAVE
INCREASED ALL THAT JOB LESSONS.
MANY OF THE JOB LOSSES HAVE BEEN
FROM WOMEN AND SPECIFICALLY,
MANY FROM WOMEN OF COLOR. THESE
IMPACTS THREATENED THE WELL
BEING OF OUR FAMILIES HERE IN
CALIFORNIA IN 2017 40% 41% OF
MOTHERS WERE THE PRIMARY
BREADWINNERS FOR THEIR FAMILIES
. PRIMARY BREADWINNERS WHO STILL
MAKE 70% OR LESS THAN THEIR MALE
COLLEAGUES. THE PINK TAX
AUGMENTS AND REINFORCES THESE
INEQUITIES. WOMEN ALREADY
UNDERPAID ARE EXPECTED TO PAID
MORE FOR EVEN BASIC NECESSITIES
. PAYING HIGHER PRICES. BECAUSE
OF OUR GENDER IS SIMPLY UNJUST.
IT HURTS WOMEN IN A MARKET AND
AT A TIME THAT THEY ARE DEEPLY
VULNERABLE. WITH ME TODAY AND
SUPPORT VIA PHONE IS LAUREN BAB
, CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION ON THE
STATUS OF GIRLS AND WOMEN AND IN
PERSON WE HAVE. KATHY VON
AUSTIN, LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE FOR
THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
UNIVERSITY WOMEN. THANK YOU. I
SEE MISS VAN AUSTIN HERE. WHEN
ASKED HIM. GOOD ACTOR CHAIR.
GOOD AFTER CHAIR. YOU LOVE THAT.
THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO START.
THAT'S AFTER THE ELECTION.
THAT'S HOW THEY REFER TO ME
RIGHT ALL UP TOO LATE WATCHING
THE RETURNS. I'M KATHY VAN
AUSTIN. I REPRESENT THE AMERICAN
ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN,
CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE ABOUT 10,000
MEMBERS, UM, STATEWIDE AND ABOUT
119 BRANCHES. UM SO. FIRST I
WANT TO THANK THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. I WAS A STAFFER IN THE
BUILDING WHEN ASSEMBLYWOMAN
SPIRIT TOOK UP HER BILL, THE
GENDER EQUITY TAX AND, UM, IT
WAS VERY EXCITING TO WATCH HER
PRESENTED ON THE FLOOR. AND IT
WAS ALSO STEERING AT THE SAME
TIME BECAUSE I WASN'T MAKING
MUCH MONEY AT THAT POINT AND
PAYING A LOT MORE FOR SERVICES
AND GOODS. UM SO THANK YOU FOR
THAT, UM. FOR WOMEN TO PAY THE
HIGHER COSTS FOR IDENTICAL GOODS
, OBVIOUSLY AS THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BARRICADE AND SAID, IT'S
UNJUST UM, BUT WHEN YOU COMPOUND
THAT WITH THE WAGE EQUITY ISSUE
UM, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BIGGER GAP
AND ACCORDING TO THE WORLD DATA
LAB, THEY DID A STUDY IN 2019,
AND THEY ESTIMATED THAT FROM
2019 UNTIL THE END OF 2030.
97.43 THERE WILL BE A 97.43.
INCREASE AND THE GENDER EQUITY
GAP. BY THE END OF 2030, SO IT'S
DEFINITELY GOING IN THE WRONG
DIRECTION. THERE WILL BE 12
MILLION MORE WOMEN IN THE WORLD
BY 2030. CURRENTLY THERE'S ABOUT
27 MORE. MILLION MORE MEN IN THE
WORLD RIGHT NOW. UM SO. YOU KNOW
, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM THEY
ALSO FOUND THAT THE US HAS THE
LARGEST SPENDING GAP MAKES SENSE
. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW
QUITE A BIT OF WEALTH, BUT WE
ALSO HAVE AN AUSTIN IF YOU WOULD
GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP,
WRAPPING UP. YES, RIGHT. SO WE
JUST THANK YOU FOR CARRYING THE
BILL. WE STRONGLY SUPPORTED AND
URGED THE COMMITTEE TO MOVE THIS
BILL FORWARD. THANK YOU AND MISS
LAUREN BAB. OR BOB, IF YOU'RE ON
THE PHONE. YES I'M HERE. CAN YOU
HEAR ME? YES CLOSURES. GREAT
THANK YOU. CHAIR REMEMBERS. THIS
IS A CRISIS IN EVERY SENSE OF
THE WORD AND IT WON'T BE SOLVED
WITH GOODWILL OR AWARENESS. WHAT
WE PAY FOR THE SAME PRODUCT
SHOULD BE SIMPLE, BLACK AND
WHITE, NOTPINK OR BLUE MYSELF
BY MALE DEODORANT BECAUSE IT
COSTS LESS THAN WOMEN BRAND
KILOGRAMS. ELIMINATING THE PINK
TAX SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE
CALIFORNIA COMMISSION ON THE
STATUS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS
PILLARS UP WITH ECONOMIC
SECURITY AND ELIMINATE RACIAL
AND GENDER. UH ISSUES AROUND
EQUITY HELP, HOWEVER, INTENTION
EXPLOITS AND EXASPERATES FORMS
OF SEXISM. ON THE WHOLE WOMEN
ARE MORE LIKELY TO WORK IN JOBS
THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS A CENTRAL
AND ON THE FRONT LINES OF COVID
19 RESPONSE, GIRLS, YOUNG WOMEN
AND ESPECIALLY BLACK WOMEN WOULD
HIT HARDEST BY THE CRISIS. WITH
MANY OF THEM DROPPING OUT OF
SCHOOL AND THE WORKFORCE
ENTIRELY GRAPPLE WITH THE LONG
TERM CONSEQUENCES OF THIS, HE
MUST RE EXAMINE THE GENDER BIAS
FOR WOMEN PAYING MORE FOR GOODS
, AND THEY HAVE LESS TO THINK TO
INVEST IN EDUCATION OR CAREER
DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. ON
THOSE PRODUCTS. THE PRICE
DIFFERENCE IS JUST A FEW DOLLARS
JUST SENSE BUT THAT ADDS UP OVER
TIME THE PARTY DIFFERENCES
ARBITRARILY PENALIZED WOMEN
ACROSS THE STATE. UM, AND OVER
80% OF BLACK MOTHERS ARE
BREADWINNERS IN THEIR FAMILIES.
ARBITRARY PRICE DIFFERENCES ARE
UNJUST, HARMFUL AND COMPOUNDED
BY THE GENDER PAY GAP THAT
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS WOMEN
OF COLOR. WOMEN SHOULD BE ABLE
TO EXERCISE THEIR BUYING POWER
WITHOUT THE FEAR OF GENDER BASED
DISCRIMINATION. 80 12 87 IS A
WELL TIMED SOLUTION TO ELIMINATE
THE PRICE THE PRICING
DIFFERENCES. FOR A FUNDAMENTALLY
IDENTICAL GOODS FOR WOMEN'S
FINANCIAL, SOCIAL AND TOTAL
EQUITY IS APPRECIATED. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE
FOR 80 12 87. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT, UM. ANYONE ELSE
IN SUPPORT HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM? ROOM 2100 SAYING NO ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE.
ANYONE ON THE PHONE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 12 87. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME ONE, FOLLOWED
BY ZERO. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO
TO LINE 47. PLEASE GO AHEAD. 47
YOU ARE OPEN. THESE ARE MUTE 47.
TO TESTIFY. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO
LINE 29, YOU ARE OPEN. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. 29 WITH AN OPERATOR. NOW
ONE MOMENT.
LINE 47 BACK. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
47. MR CHAIR. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES, I CAN. OKAY I DON'T.
THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING LINE. 29,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OR JUST GET THE
INSTRUCTIONS AGAIN FOR ANYBODY.
LET ME GIVE THE NUMBER MODERATOR
. I'LL GIVE THE NUMBER ONE MORE
TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
MAY BE SOME CHALLENGES IN
ACCESSING THE NUMBER BUT THE
NUMBER FOR TODAY. THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 8772 TO 6.
8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE IS
648862. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY
QUEUING UP THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY IF YOU ARE AN OPPOSITION,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY 01
FALL BY ZERO. MR CHAIR. NOBODY
IS QUEUING UP. OKAY, LET ME
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT UM
, SOME OF THE MEMBER WOULD YOU
CARE TO CLOSE MOTION? BUT THERE
I ANTICIPATED MOTION. ONCE WE
HAVE A COMMITTEE ONCE THE
EMOTION IS MADE, I RESPECT THAT
FOR NEITHER. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO UM, ITEM
NUMBER FIVE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CUNNINGHAM.
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
SORRY, SENATORS. JUST LIKE TO
NOTE FOR THE RECORD, UNLIKE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GALLAGHER, I
DID WEAR IT TIED TODAY
PROCESSION. IT'S SO NOTED, FOR
THE RECORD. THANK YOU SO I'M
HERE TO PRESENT A B 25 95 ON
BEHALF OF ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY
CHAIR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S STONE
THIS BILL UPDATES CALIFORNIA LAW
TO EXEMPT SURVIVORS OF CHILDHOOD
SEXUAL ABUSE PERPETRATED BY
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, WHETHER LOCAL
OR STATE FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO
FORMALLY PRESENT CLAIMS TO THE
GOVERNMENT PRIOR TO FILING A
LAWSUIT. THE GOVERNMENT CLAIMS
THAT TYPICALLY IMMUNIZES THE
STATE AND ITS AGENCIES FROM
CIVIL LITIGATION. BUT IT IS
SUBJECT TO IMPORTANT EXCEPTIONS
THAT ALLOW CERTAIN CLAIMS
AGAINST THE PUBLIC ENTITY FOR
INJURIES CAUSED BY AN ACTUAL
MISSION OF AN EMPLOYEE OR
EMPLOYEES ACTING WITHIN THE
SCOPE OF EMPLOYMENT. THESE
IMPORTANT EXEMPTIONS. EXCEPTIONS
TYPICALLY INCLUDE A CLAIM
PRESENTATION REQUIREMENT WHEREBY
THE CLAIMANT MUST PRESENT THE
CLAIM TO THE AGENCY PRIOR TO
FILING SUIT AND IF THAT
REQUIREMENT IS WAIVED THAN THE
CLAIM IS BARRED. IN 2018, THE
LEGISLATURE EXEMPTED CLAIMS OF
CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE AGAINST
LOCAL PUBLIC AGENCIES FROM THIS
PRESENTATION REQUIREMENT. BUT
UNTIL NOW MAINTAINS THAT
PRESENTATION REQUIREMENT
RECLAIMS AGAINST STATE PUBLIC
ENTITIES. THIS BILL WOULD SIMPLY
UPDATE THAT LAW AND CREATE
CONGRESS CONGRESS. CAN'T SAY
THAT WORD. AH! CONGRUITY. EITHER
OR RIGHT. BETWEEN STATE AND
LOCAL, AND THAT WOULD ENSURE
THAT PERPETRATORS ARE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE AND FOLKS ARE ABLE
TO SEEK JUSTICE REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER THE PERPETRATOR WAS A
LOCAL OR STATE EMPLOYEE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, UM I DO NOT SEE ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. UM THAT
ARE LISTED HERE. UH IF THERE ANY
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM 2100 IF
THEY WOULD APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE THOSE IN SUPPORT
SEEING NONE. THOSE IN SUPPORT ON
THE PHONE. MODERATE IF YOU WOULD
QUEUE UP THOSE AND SUPPORT ON
THE PHONE FOR A B 2959 THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 2959 PLUS ONE,
FOLLOWED BY 01 FOUL BY ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND NOBODY IS QUEUING
UP AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT,
LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. ANY
OPPOSITION? UM HERE IN ROOM,
2100, SAYING NO. ONE APPROACHING
THE MICROPHONE OPPOSITION ON THE
PHONE. WHILE WE'RE WAITING
MODERATOR, UM THE LINEUP WILL BE
SOMEBODY MEMBER CUNNINGHAM IS
GOING TO PRESENT. UM A B 17 88
NEXT. THEN I SEE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN HERE,
UM HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN. AND
THEN, UM. WE ALTHOUGH SOME OF
THEM WERE HOLDING IS NOT
PRESENT, ANTICIPATE THAT THAT
WILL BE THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR
AGENDA. ALRIGHT MODERATE ANYONE
ELSE ANYONE IN POP OPPOSITION TO
A B 29 59. THANK YOU IF YOU ARE
IN OPPOSITION TO A B 29 59,
PLEASE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND
PLEASURE, PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY
ZERO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO. AND MR CHAIR.
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP AT THIS
TIME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEEING NONE.
WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM AT SUCH
TIME. AS WE HAVE A QUORUM.
ANTICIPATE THERE'LL BE A MOTION.
UM WOULD YOU CARE TO CLOSE? I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE,
ALL RIGHT? LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO
ITEM NUMBER FIVE A B 17 88 AND
FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE ARE
STILL ONE SHORT FOR QUORUM. ALL
RIGHT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CUNNINGHAM.OR IS ALL YOURS?
THANK YOU. HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS
AMONG THE WORLD'S FASTEST
GROWING CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES,
AND IT IS ESTIMATED TO BE A $150
BILLION A YEAR GLOBAL INDUSTRY.
RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT HOTELS
AND MOTELS WHERE THE THIRD MOST
COMMON VENUE FOR SEX TRAFFICKING
IN 2019, AND HE HAD ROUTINELY
BEEN IN THE TOP THREE SINCE 2013%
AND A RECENT STUDY BY THE
POLARIS PROJECT 75% OF SURVIVORS
OF TRAFFICKING REPORT COMING
INTO CONTACT WITH HOTELS AND
MOTELS. DON'T INTERRUPT YOU, BUT
I WILL. UM, DO YOU ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS AS PROPOSED? YES. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. VERY, THANK
YOU. KING GO AHEAD. 17 88 WOULD
ALLOW CITY AND DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ONLY TO SEEK CIVIL
PENALTIES AGAINST HOTELS AND
MOTELS. IF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS
NEW OR ACTED WITH RECKLESS
DISREGARD TOWARDS SEX SEX
TRAFFICKING HAPPENING ON THE
PREMISES. IT OFFERS AN IMPORTANT
SAFE HARBOR. IF. THE ENTITY
REPORTS THE ACTIVITY TO EITHER
LAW ENFORCEMENT. OR THE NATIONAL
HUMAN TRAFFICKING HOTLINE OR AN
APPROPRIATE VICTIM SERVICES
CENTER. THEN THEY CANNOT BE
LIABLE. THIS BILL BUILDS ON SP 9
70 FROM 2018 BY SENATOR ATKINS
THAT REQUIRED HOSPITALITY
EMPLOYEES TO RECEIVE TRAINING
AND RECOGNIZING THE SIGNS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT UNDER
FEDERAL LAW FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
CAN BRING CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST
TRAFFICKERS AND VICTIMS CAN
BRING CIVIL LAWSUITS. HOWEVER
THE FEDERAL LAW IS HISTORICALLY
UNDERUTILIZED AND DOES NOT ALLOW
LOCAL ATTORNEYS TO BRING SEVERAL
PENALTIES. BY ALLOWING THIS WITH
THIS BILL WILL CLOSE THE GAP AND
GIVE AGAIN THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS AND CITY ATTORNEYS
ANOTHER TOOL TO COMBAT BAD
ACTORS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES ON
THE PHONE SHOULD BE GERALD
FEINMAN, WITH THE CALIFORNIA
DÍAS ASSOCIATION TESTIFYING
SUPPORT ALL RIGHT, MR. FEYNMAN,
ARE YOU AVAILABLE? MODERATORS,
MR FEINMAN ON THE PHONE. I'M
LOOKING FOR HIS LINE RIGHT NOW.
LOVE. I DO NOT SEE MR FEINMAN
UNLESS HE CALLED IN ON THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBER. GO AHEAD AND
HIT 10, MR FIREMAN. ONCE ALL BY
ZERO. IF YOU'RE ON AS A
PARTICIPANT, MR FIREMAN AND I
THINK HE MIGHT HAVE, UM IT'S
GOING TO OPEN THIS LINE. 9 34.
HELLO. 34 OKAY? MR FAYMANN, GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
SENATE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. GERALD
KLEINMAN, CAREER PROSECUTOR ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION. AS
MENTIONED HUMAN TRAFFICKING. HE
IS THE FASTEST GROWING CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISE IN THE WORLD. WE IN
CALIFORNIA ARE NOT A MEAN TO THE
ILLS OF TRAFFICKING. UNLIKE
DRUGS, GUNS OR OTHER CONTRABAND
, THE VICTIMS OF SEX
TRAFFICKING, SOLD AND SOLD AND
SOLD AGAIN. OUR SEX TRAFFICKERS
USE THE INTERNET TO MARKET THEIR
BUSINESS, BUT THEY NEED A PLACE
TO OPERATE THAT PLACES MOST
FREQUENTLY HOTELS AND MOTELS. A
B 17 88 WORKS TO MAKE CALIFORNIA
HOTELS AND MOTELS AND UNWELCOME
PLACE FOR TRAFFICKERS. BY
CREATING A CIVIL SANCTIONS FOR
THOSE MANAGERS WHO RECKLESSLY
TURNED A BLIND EYE TO
TRAFFICKING WITHIN THEIR LODGING
ESTABLISHMENT OR TO THOSE WHO
ACTUALLY TAKE PROFIT. BY NO
WORRYING TRAFFICKING WITHIN
THEIR ESTABLISHMENT. THIS BILL
MAKES HOTEL SAFE FOR THOSE WHO
USE THEM LEGITIMATELY. IF YOU'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS THE RISK
OF SOMEONE WHO IS NOT ENGAGED IN
TRAFFICKING, THE AROUND THOSE
WHO ARE THOSE RISKS ARE ROBBERY
, KIDNAPPING. WE ONLY NEED TO
LOOK AT THE RECENT KIDNAPPING
THE 15 YEAR OLD GIRL FROM THE
DALLAS MAVERICKS PLAYOFF GAMES.
THAT GIRL WAS LATER LOCATED IN A
MOTEL IN ANOTHER STATE.
TRAFFICKING NEEDS TO BE KEPT OUT
OF OUR HOTELS AND MOTELS. THIS
BILL PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PROTECT CALIFORNIANS FROM
TRAFFICKING WITHOUT CREATING NEW
CRIMINAL PENALTIES. I THEREFORE
ORDER YOUR VOTE IN SUPPORT OF A
B 17 88. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR FEINMAN. OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF
A B 17 88. HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM. MISS VAN AUSTIN. I WAS
JUST GOING TO DO A ME TOO. I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY
ELSE SCHEDULED KATHY VAN AUSTIN
ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN
ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN,
CALIFORNIA WE WEREN'T STRONG
SUPPORT. HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A
MASSIVE ISSUE HEREIN
CALIFORNIA. UH, OFFERED SEX
TRAFFICKING AS WELL AS OTHER
LABOR ISSUES. WOMEN CHILDREN,
MEN SO FORTH AND A LOT OF FOSTER
CHILDREN. AND WHICH WE CARE
DEEPLY ABOUT. SO UM, ON BEHALF
OF EVERYTHING THAT THE AUTHOR IS
DOING, WE ARE DRIVE OUT, ARTIE.
THANK YOU OTHERS AND SUPPORT
HERE IN ROOM 2100 SAYING NO ONE
APPROACHING MY PHONE ON THE
PHONE. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF S.
EXCUSE ME, A B 1788. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 17 88, PLEASE PRESS 1010.
AND. WE DO HAVE ONE QUEUING UP
ONE MOMENT. THERE WAS AN
OPERATOR. ANYBODY ELSE GO AND
HIT 10 TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A
B 17 88? ALRIGHT, LINE. 40, YOU
ARE OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS COREY
CHAU ZILLOW ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. NOBODY ELSE QUEUED UP, MR.
CHAIR, ALL RIGHT. LET'S TURN TO
OPPOSITION. UH I SEE NO PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION HERE IN
ROOM 2100, SAYING NO. ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE
MODERATOR. UM. IF THERE'S ANYONE
OPPOSED TO, UM A B 17 88 ON THE
PHONE IF YOU WOULD QUEUE THEM
UP. ABSOLUTELY. ANYBODY IN.
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION. ALRIGHT
OPPOSITION TO A B 17 88 PLEASE
PRESS 1010. WE DO HAVE ONE WITH
AN OPERATOR. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
AND WE'LL GO TO LINE 47 YOU ARE
OPEN. BILL ON BEHALF BASED YOU
CALIFORNIA ACTION AND
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. OTHERS AND OPPOSITION. MR
CHAIR. NOBODY ELSE HAS QUEUED
UP. ALRIGHT BRING IT BACK HERE
TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS. SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. THE OPPOSITION, UH,
HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD
PREFER A PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE
RATHER THAN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
RESPONSE AND THAT THERE ARE
PEOPLE WITHIN THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
DOMAIN THAT CAN SEPARATE REAL
HUMAN TRAFFICKING FROM JUST I
GUESS, GENERAL SEX WORK,
WHATEVER THAT IS, AND THEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSES REALLY?
NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM
THAT WE ALL CARE ABOUT. WHAT DO
YOU WHAT DO YOU DO YOU HAVE A
COMMENT ON THE OPPOSITION'S
CONCERNS? IF I MAY OR I COULD
ADDRESS THAT MY CLOTHES MR CHAIR
ALREADY? I GUESS THE OTHER
QUESTION WOULD BE IS THE
OPPOSITION TALKS ABOUT
CONFLATING SEX WORK WITH HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND THERE ARE
CONSENSUAL SEX WORKERS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THAT
THEY WOULD GET CAUGHT UP IN
THIS, UM MECHANISM, AND THAT
WOULD BE THERE WILL BE UNDULY
HARMED, I GUESS IS WHAT THE WAY
THEY LOOKED AT IT SO YOU CAN
ADDRESS THAT ALSO. ALRIGHT UM
AND SENATOR YOU WANT TO ADDRESS
THOSE TWO ISSUES IN YOUR
CLOTHES? SOME OF THEM WERE
CUNNINGHAM. CERTAINLY ALRIGHT.
SENATOR GRAESSLE. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR ALONG THE LINES OF CENTER
WIECKOWSKI IS, UM. IN SEX
TRAFFICKING NIGHT. UM, I'VE
HEARD UM, THERE'S A LOT OF
TIMES, UM FOREIGN BORN
IMMIGRANTS INVOLVED IN THOSE
CASES, WHICH IS PROBABLY A MIX
OF YOU KNOW THOSE WHO ARE
COMMITTING A CRIME AS MUCH AS IT
IS VICTIMS OF A CRIME. UM IN IN
L A WHEN WE WORKED WITH LAPD.
THEY PRETTY MUCH STAYED OUT OF
IT. YOU KNOW, EXCEPT THAT THERE
WAS SOMETHING PRETTY CLEAR. THAT
A CRIME, BUT WE EVENTUALLY
DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE L A. P D, IN WHICH, UM.
NEITHER THE VICTIMS NOBODY WAS
REPORTED TO IMMIGRATION AND
THEREFORE IT. YOU KNOW, THE WORD
GETS OUT ABOUT THE TRUST THAT
YOU COULD HAVE UM AND SO WE WERE
ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT KIND OF
RELATIONSHIP THAT WORKED REALLY
WELL BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO GET
THE PERPETRATORS OF THE CRIME.
WITHOUT A DOUBT. WE'RE ON THE
SAME SIDE OF THAT. BUT HOW DO
YOU DO IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT
THERE'S THE TRUST THERE. AND
THERE'S THE ABILITY TO
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE VICTIMS
AND THE PERPETRATORS OF THE
CRIMES. SO SOMETHING ALONG THE
LINES OF WHAT SENATOR WIECKOWSKI
WAS SAYING IS MY BIGGEST
CONCERN. SOME NUMBER, CUNNINGHAM
SURE IF I CAN TRY TO ADDRESS ALL
THOSE ISSUES APPRECIATE THE
QUESTIONS ON THE ISSUE OF, UH,
PUBLIC HEALTH VERSUS LAW
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE, WE
ADMITTED THE BILL. IN ASSEMBLY
JUDICIARY TO INCLUDE THOSE THREE
OPTIONS SO THEY CAN REPORT IT TO
THE VICTIM SERVICES CENTER. THEY
CAN REPORT IT TO THE NATIONAL
TRAFFICKING HOTLINE. AND THEN
THAT GETS FORWARD AND UNDER THE
EXISTING SYSTEMS, OR THEY CAN
REPORT IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE REASON I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT YOU BELIEVE THE
OPTION TO REPORT TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS BECAUSE YOU COULD
HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TAKING PLACE.
THERE'S OTHER CRIMINAL STATUTES
THAT ARE BEING VIOLATED. ON THE
PREMISES OF THE HOTEL OR MOTEL
UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH YOU
WOULD WANT A LAW ENFORCEMENT
RESPONSE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE
AREN'T BEING HARMED. UM JUST
LIKE THEY'D CALL 911 IF THERE'S
A DOMESTIC BATTERY GOING ON
INSIDE A HOTEL ROOM TODAY. SO I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE
THAT OPTION. BUT THERE'S ALSO
THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT CAN BE
REPORTED THOSE OTHER TWO THOSE
OTHER ENTITIES, UM WHY CIVIL
PENALTIES? I THINK WE'RE TRYING
TO CLOSE A GAP HERE. WE'VE GOT
THE FEDERAL STUFF THAT YOU KNOW,
IN THE CRIMINAL LEVEL THAT'S
PREDOMINANTLY UTILIZED BY U. S
ATTORNEY'S OFFICES TO TAKE DOWN
LARGE CARTELS. AND BIG
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATINS THAT
ARE TRAFFICKING PEOPLE OVER THE
WORLD. THEY DON'T TEND TO GET
DOWN TO WHETHER THE MOTEL SIX IN
ATASCADERO, CALIFORNIA, FOR
EXAMPLE, HAS TRAFFICKING GOING
ON AND SUPREMACISTS. THEY JUST
DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AND
THEY'RE FOCUSING ON THE BIGGER
ACTORS THAT ARE DOING THIS
INTERNATIONALLY. WE HAVE A WHOLE
BODY OF EXISTING CRIMINAL
STATUTES THAT PROSECUTORS ARE
USING TODAY TO COMBAT IT IN
THEIR IN THEIR JURISDICTIONS.
AND THEN ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL,
WE ALSO HAVE A CAUSE OF ACTION
FOR THE VICTIMS, WHICH IS
APPROPRIATE, BUT GIVEN THE DATA
IS STATISTICALLY AND
HISTORICALLY RATHER
UNDERUTILIZED. THIS GIVES
ANOTHER TOOL. AND IT'S A CIVIL
PENALTY ONLY NOT A NEW CRIME,
BUT IT GIVES ANOTHER TOOL SO IF
IT COMES TO THE ATTENTION OF A
CITY ATTORNEY OR DISTRICT
ATTORNEY, THAT PARTICULAR VENUE
OR ESTABLISHMENT HOTEL MOTEL IS
GETTING FREQUENT COMPLAINTS OF
TRAFFICKING. IT PUTS SOME
LIABILITY ON THE SUPERVISORY
EMPLOYEE. I SHOULD HAVE
MENTIONED THAT LIABILITY ONLY
ATTACHES IF A SUPERVISORY
EMPLOYEE KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE
KNOWN HER NEW OR ACTED WITH
RECKLESS DISREGARD ITS TO
TRAFFICKING HAPPENING ON THE
PREMISES. WE'VE UNDER A WHOLE. I
MENTIONED, UH, THE PROTONS
SENATOR ATKINS PRIOR BILL, BUT
THERE HAVE BEEN A BUNCH OF OTHER
ONES WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE COME
A LONG WAY. EVEN IN THE LAST
FOUR YEARS OF DOING VERY
SPECIALIZED, VERY SCIENTIFIC
TRAINING TO THE WORKERS AT
HOTELS AND MOTELS SO THEY CAN
RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS AND
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHAT IS
NORMAL SEX WORKER CONDUCT AND
THE SIGNS OF TRAFFICKING. AND
THERE IS A BODY OF SCIENCE AND
RESEARCH THAT DOES JUSTIFY THERE
BEING A DIFFERENCE, AND THAT
BEING AN OBSERVER OBSERVABLE
THIS DIFFERENCE, SO WE'VE GIVEN
TRAINING TO THE FOLKS THAT NEED
IT. AH AND THAT'S WHY I THINK
IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TAKE THIS
STEP AND GIVE ANOTHER TOOL TO
THE LOCAL PROSECUTORS OF THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S TO CREATE SOME
FINANCIAL DISINCENTIVE IF YOU
WILL FOR THESE ESTABLISHMENTS
THAT ARE LETTING THIS HAPPEN ON
THEIR PREMISES. UM, AS TO
DISTINGUISHING. I COMPLETELY
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS
EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, AND BY AND
LARGE TODAY WE DO NOT PROSECUTE
VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING FOR
ANYTHING. WE TRY TO GET THEM IN
THE SYSTEM. WE GIVE THEM
INTERPRETERS. WE GIVE THEM
EMOTIONAL SUPPORT. WE GIVE THEM
COUNSELING. WE BUILD TRUST AND
RAPPORT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME. AND IF YOU TALK TO THE
PROSECUTORS AND DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS THAT ARE INVOLVED AT
THE GROUND LEVEL PROSECUTING
THESE CASES. IT TAKES A LONG
TIME TO BUILD THAT TRUST. I
MEAN, THESE PEOPLE ARE IN A
ABUSIVE POWER DYNAMIC. A LOT OF
THEM ARE UNDOCUMENTED. A LOT OF
THEM DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH
RESEARCH SUGGESTS AS MANY AS A
QUARTER UM YOU KNOW THE THIS
THIS IS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY FEEL SAFE. BUT I WOULD
ALSO SUBMIT TO YOU THAT BECAUSE
IT TAKES A LONG TIME IN THE
CRIMINAL SYSTEM TO BUILD THESE
CASES AND HOLD THE PERPETRATORS,
THE TRAFFICKERS THEMSELVES
ACCOUNTABLE. HAVING A CIVIL
OPTION THAT CAN BE BROUGHT
AGAINST THE HOTEL MOTEL. THAT IS
LETTING THIS GO ON WITH
KNOWLEDGE IS IMPORTANT. AND YOU
KNOW, ALSO GIVES ANOTHER TOOL
FOR ALL OF US AS A SOCIETY TO
REALLY START. YOU KNOW, TURNING
THE TIDE ON THIS INCREDIBLE
SOCIAL PROBLEM. I HOPE THAT IT
ADDRESSED SOME OR ALL OF THE OF
THE CONCERN. OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS SEEING NONE. UM WE DO
NOT HAVE A QUORUM. BUT WHEN A
QUORUM EXISTS, I EXPECT THERE'LL
BE EMOTION. SO DO YOU CARE TO
CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY? AN
ASTRONAUT. I VOTE. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM ALRIGHT
? UM ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN.
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS PROVIDED BY YOUR
STAFF. MAYBE 4 52 WOULD REQUIRE
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION AND CONSULTATION WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO
DEVELOP AN UPDATE AS NECESSARY
AND NOTIFICATION REGARDING SAFE
FIREARM STORAGE. THAT'S ANNUALLY
PROVIDED TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS,
COUNTY OFFICES OF EDUCATION AND
CHARTER SCHOOLS FOR DISTRICT
MEMBERS. I THINK ONE THING WE
CAN ALL AGREE ON AS WE FACE THE
SCOURGE OF GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR
NATION. IS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO
KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE WRONG
HANDS, AND I'M SURE THAT ALL OF
US WOULD AGREE THAT THE WRONG
HANDS FOR GUNS ARE ALWAYS
INCLUDES CHILDREN. UNFORTUNATELY
ABOUT 87% OF CHILDREN KNOW WHERE
THEIR PARENTS GUNS ARE KEPT IN
THE HOME. AND 60% OF THEM HAVE
HANDLED THEM WITHOUT PARENTAL
SUPERVISION. NEW DATA RELEASED
BY THE CDC. AS YOU'VE ALL HEARD
SHOW THAT FIREARMS HAVE NOW
BECOME THE LEADING CAUSE OF
DEATH FOR CHILDREN IN THE UNITED
STATES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE DEEPLY
ASHAMED OF. AND EVERY YEAR
18,000 CHILDREN AND TEENS ARE
SHOT AND KILLED AND WOUNDED AND
APPROXIMATELY THREE MILLION OF
THOSE ARE EXPOSED TO GUN
VIOLENCE. STATISTICALLY ALSO.
MOST OF THE LARGE MAJORITY OF
CHILDREN OF TEENAGERS WHO USE
GUNS, EITHER IN MASS SHOOTINGS,
AS WE HAVE HAD HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. OR TO COMMIT SUICIDE
DO SO USING GUNS THAT THEY FOUND
UNSECURED IN THEIR HOME OR THE
HOME OF A RELATIVE. WE SEE EVERY
SINGLE WEEK IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA. REPORTS OF CHILDREN
SOMETIMES YOUNG CHILDREN AS
YOUNG AS FIVE YEARS OLD.
SHOOTING THEMSELVES OR SHOOTING
OTHER CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS
AGAIN WITH GUNS THAT ARE LEFT
LYING AROUND THEIR HOME. THIS IS
A VERY COMMON SENSE BILL THAT
HAS RECEIVED WIDE BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT. AND I WOULD URGE AND I
VOTE WHEN APPROPRIATE. THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN.
ALRIGHT UM MR MS CATH, UM
SOCKLESS. AND THAT WAS KANSEN.
YES IS THAT MISS? UM CYCLES LIKE
THIS? YES. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. MY NAME IS KATHY CYCLE LIKE
THIS CHAIR OF BRADY'S NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA REGIONAL LEADERSHIP
COUNCIL AND ALSO CO CHAIR OF THE
SUMMER DISCO CHAPTER. BEFORE I
MOVED TO AMERICA IN 1997. I'M
ASSISTANT IN SEVEN DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES AS IT WORKING IN
STRATEGY CONSULTING AND IN SOUTH
AFRICA OF CARDIAC BECOME POINT.
BEFORE THIS, I WAS IN THE
BRITISH ARMY SEEN BOTH ENDS OF
GUNS, AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED
TO DO MORE TO TREAT GUNS SAFELY
STARTED VOLUNTEERING WITH
RADIANT 2015 AFTER LEARNING
ABOUT LOCKDOWN DRILLS AS A
TRUSTEE OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SCHOOL SAFETY IS VITALLY
IMPORTANT TO ALL PARENTS,
GUARDIANS, SCHOOL STAFF AND THE
COMMUNITY AT LARGE. THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
MOST SCHOOL SHOOTINGS WERE
COMMITTED BY KIDS WHERE THERE
WAS KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THE
SHOOTERS OF PAIN THE GUN 80%
YOU'VE BECOME FROM THEIR OWN
HOME AND WITH 400 MILLION GUNS
IN AMERICA, AT LEAST 400 MILLION
. WE MUST BE MORE TO KEEP GUNS
AWAY FROM CHILDREN. CALIFORNIA'S
GOT STRONG CHILD ACCESS
PREVENTION, THOSE THAT MANY
PARENTS AND GUARDIANS DON'T KNOW
ABOUT THE LAW, SENDING HOME SAFE
STORAGE INFORMATION. NOT TOO
REACTIVE MEASURE. KIDS SCHOOLS,
WE HOLD ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS,
LOCKDOWNS AND CRISIS TRAINING
FOR FACULTY ALREADY. BRADY
CAMPAIGN. WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY
STORAGE INFORMATION, ALL
FAMILIES WHO ATTEND PUBLIC
SCHOOLS. PREVENTING CHILD ACCESS
TO GUNS NOT ONLY REDUCES THE
RISK OF UNINTENTIONAL AND
SUICIDAL SHOOTINGS AT HOME, IT
ALSO REDUCES THE RISK OF
SHOOTINGS AT SCHOOLS.
DISTRIBUTING GUNS. SAFETY
STORAGE INFORMATION IS A SMALL
BUT ESSENTIAL STEP TOWARDS
STUFFING GUN VIOLENCE AND
KEEPING OUR CHILDREN SAFE. THE
NOTIFICATIONS INEXPENSIVE,
SIMPLE AND EDUCATE STAFF AND
STUDENTS AS WELL AS THEIR
PARENTS AND GUARDIANS. LET'S
MAKE IT A STATEWIDE LAW. I URGE
YOU TO PASS A B 4TH 52 TO SAVE
THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN. AND I
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE
COUNTING ON YOU AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING. UH
THANK YOU, UM, MA'AM, BEFORE WE
TURN TO THE NEXT WITNESS, LET'S
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. HAMBURG HERE
BOARD GIS. WE'RE JUST PRESIDENT
CABALLERO HUESO. YOU'RE A SO
HERE, GONZALES. HERTZBERG. JONES
JONES HERE LAYERED HERE HERE,
STERN WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI
HERE, WIENER. YOU HAVE A QUORUM
. THANK YOU. NOW, UM EDEN
BJORNSSON. IF YOU'RE ON THE
PHONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS EDEN BJORNSSON RECENT HIGH
SCHOOL GRADUATE IN ORANGE COUNTY
, AND I'M A VOLUNTEER LEADER
WITH STUDENTS FROM INACTION AND
EVERY TIME AGAINST SAFETY I'VE
GROWN UP IN A GENERATION
ACCUSTOMED TO SCHOOL LOCKDOWN
DRILLS, ISRAEL IS A REMINDER OF
THE DARK REALITY THAT ANY DAY WE
COULD FALL VICTIM TO A SHOOTING
THAT THERE SIMPLY PART OF THE
MODERN SCHOOL EXPERIENCE. ONCE
AN EIGHTH GRADE WE UNEXPECTEDLY
LOCKDOWN WE'RE TOLD IT WAS NOT A
DRILL WE FEARED FOR OUR LIVES.
LATER THAT DAY, WE LEARNED THAT
THE SHOOTER WAS NOT ON CAMPUS.
THE SHOOTING OCCURRED NEARBY IN
OUR SCHOOL LOCKDOWN OUT OF AN
ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. TWO DEAD,
TWO INJURED. THEN SOMETHING
UNSETTLING HAPPENED. WE ALL
MOVED ON AS IF NOTHING HAD
HAPPENED. THAT IS NOT OKAY. WE
NEED TO NOTIFY SCHOOL FAMILIES
OF OUR STRONG BECAUSE STORAGE
WAS TO STOP GUN VIOLENCE FROM
BEING SO HEARTBREAKINGLY COMMON
PLACE. HERE'S STORAGE OF
FIREARMS EFFECTIVELY PREVENTS
GUN VIOLENCE IN MANY FORMS. AN
INCIDENT OF GUNFIRE ON SCHOOL
CAMPUSES UP TO 80% OF SHOOTERS
UNDER AGE 18 GOT THE GUN FROM
THEIR HOMES OR THE HOMES OF THE
FRIENDS OR RELATIVES. HAD THE
HOUSEHOLD SECURELY STORED ITS
FIREARMS. MANY OF THESE
SHOOTINGS COULD HAVE BEEN
PREVENTED. SECURE STORAGE ALSO
GREATLY MINIMIZES UNINTENTIONAL
SHOOTINGS AND GUN SUICIDE
HOUSEHOLDS THAT LOCKED THOSE
FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION WERE
FOUND TO HAVE A 78% LOWER RISK
HER SELF INFLICTED FIREARM
INJURIES. IN 85% LOWER RISK OF
UNINTENTIONAL FIREARM INJURIES
AMONG CHILDREN COMPARED TO
HOUSEHOLDS THAT LOST METER WAS
ABOUT 4.6 MILLION US CHILDREN
LIVING IN HOUSEHOLDS WITH AT
LEAST ONE UNLOCKED AND LOADED
FIREARMS. IMAGINE HOW MANY LIVES
COULD BE SAVED WITH PROPER
SECURE STORAGE. AS A NATIONAL
LEADER IN GUN SAFETY. CALIFORNIA
ALREADY REQUIRES GUN OWNERS TO
STORE THEIR GUNS SO THAT
CHILDREN ARE UNLIKELY TO ACCESS
THEM. HOWEVER PEOPLE MUST KNOW
ABOUT THIS BOX OR TO BE
IMPOSSIBLE. BYPASSING 84 52. WE
WILL ENSURE ALL PARENTS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA RECEIVED THIS VITAL
INFORMATION AND AS THE FIRST
BILL OF ITS KIND IN THE COUNTRY,
84 52 WOULD BE ANOTHER PRIME
EXAMPLE OF CALIFORNIA DRIVING
THE NATION FURTHER IN GUN
VIOLENCE PREVENTION. CHANGE.
VOTE YES, ON 84 52. THANK YOU,
MISS BJORNSSON. WHAT HIGH SCHOOL
YOU GO TO MS BJORNSSON. ALISON
MIGUEL HIGH SCHOOL RECENTLY
GRADUATED. ALRIGHT. WELL, THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY. UH ALL RIGHT. OTHERS
IN SUPPORT HERE IN ROOM 2100. IF
YOU APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AND
GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION. MY
NAME IS MARY LOU ROSSETTO. I'M
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION. I'M A
VOLUNTEER, A GUN OWNER, PRIOR
POLICE OFFICER AND A TEACHER AND
I STRONGLY SUPPORT A B 4 52.
REBECCA MARCUS, REPRESENTING THE
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY INSTITUTE OF
USD LAW SCHOOL, AND ALSO A BRADY
SACRAMENTO MEMBER. THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN ROOM 2100 SAYING, NO
ONE ELSE APPROACHING MY PHONE.
LET'S TURN TO THE PHONE
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP
THOSE ON THE PHONE IN SUPPORT OF
A B 452 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B FOR 52
, PLEASE PRESS ONE. FALL BY ZERO
THIS TIME ONE. FALL BY ZERO.
START WITH WINE. 60, YOUR OPEN.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
. THIS IS JIM LINDBERG BEHALF OF
THE FRENCH COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
LINE 52 YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON, SARAH ROCK ON BEHALF
OF THE CITIES OF BURBANK AND
SOLANO BEACHIN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. THANK YOU. LINE. 49,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
. MY NAME IS JULIA. WELL, I'M A
MEMBER OF WAVE WOMEN FOR
AMERICAN VALUES AND ETHICS. AND
ALSO A LEGAL GUN OWNER AND, MOST
IMPORTANTLY, A MOTHER OF SCHOOL
AGED CHILDREN. I STRONGLY
SUPPORT A B FOUR OR FIVE TO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINE 26
YOU ARE OPEN. HI MY NAME IS
CRISTINA KANDORIANS. I'M A
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION FOR GUN SENSE CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF 84 52. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE. 51, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. LYDIA BORN REPRESENTING
THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF
PEDIATRICS, CALIFORNIA DIVISION,
WE'RE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
LINE. 54, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON, REBECA GONZALEZ FOR
THE NATIONALIST ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. YEAH WE GOT A LINE. 54
PLEASE GO AHEAD. EXCUSE ME LIKE
53, YOU ARE OPEN. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI THIS IS VIPER VENOM
CALLING FROM WAVE WOMEN FOR
AMERICAN VALUES AND ETHICS IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B FOR 52.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 1 55,
YOU'RE OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
NICOLE KENYANS ON BEHALF OF
EVERY TOWN FOR GUN SAFETY AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF MAYBE 4 52.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 56 YOU ARE
UP, PLEASE GO AHEAD. AFTERNOON
CRYSTAL LOCAL OTTO AND THE
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION FOR GUN SENSE CALLING AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. 0.58 YOU ARE OPEN. PLEASE
STEIN FROM WOMEN FOR AMERICAN
VALUES AND FULFILLMENT FUND AND
ALSO A PARENT OF A STUDENT. IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. LINE 59 YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON, SYLVIA SALAS SHAW ON
BEHALF OF THE OFFICE OF LOS
ANGELES CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT FEAR
ER AND SUPPORT AND ALSO ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. WE HAVE
EXHAUSTED TO KILL. ALREADY LET'S
TURN TO THE OPPOSITION. UM I SEE
NO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. ANYONE IN ROOM 2100
AND OPPOSITION. PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE, SAYING NO ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE
MODERATE IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP
THOSE ON THE PHONE PROPOSED TO A
BEFORE FIVE TO WE'D BE GRATEFUL.
THANK YOU MUCH IF YOU ARE
OPPOSED TO A B 452 PLEASE PRESS
10 AT THIS TIME, 10. AND WE HAVE
NOBODY QUEUING UP. ALL RIGHT,
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. SENATOR JONES. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. UM, SOME WOMEN. I
JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
AND THEN MAYBE A QUESTION. I'M
NOT EXACTLY SURE. UM THIS COULD
BE, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT
DUPLICATIVE. UM THE IN
CALIFORNIA WHEN A PERSON
PURCHASES A FIREARM BEFORE THEY
LEAVE THE GUN STORE. THEY HAVE
TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE PROPER
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO STORE
THE FIREARM. HAD A CARRY THE
FIREARM, TRANSPORT THE FIREARM
AND THEN STORE IT IN THEIR HOME
. SO SOME OF THAT DISCLOSURES
THAT DISCLOSURE IS ALREADY DONE
AT THE PURCHASE. UH SO DO YOU
HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT
BEING DUPLICATIVE? AND THEN? UM,
IS THIS AN COULD BE AN UNFUNDED
MANDATE ON THE LOCAL AGENCIES,
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE
CONSIDERED THAT AND HOW THAT
WOULD PLAY OUT. AND THEN, UM THE
I GUESS THE FINAL QUESTION WOULD
BE. HOW DO YOU ENVISION THIS
NOTICE? WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE
? I GUESS, UM, I THINK YOU'RE ON
TO A GOOD IDEA HERE. I LIKE THE
FOUNDATION OF THIS. AND JUST
WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD SOME
RESPONSES TO THOSE CONCERNS. YES
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, YES,
INFORMATION IS GIVEN O GUN
PURCHASERS. BUT THE PERSON WHO
IS HOME MAYBE OVERSEEING THE
HOME MAY NOT BE THE PERSON WHO
ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE FIREARM.
AND THAT PERSON MAY NOT
UNDERSTAND THE RISKS AND ALSO,
PEOPLE JUST AREN'T GETTING THE
MESSAGE. WE SEE IT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN. IN TERMS OF THE COST. THE
COST IS NOMINAL. WE'VE DISCUSSED
THIS IN OTHER COMMITTEES. FOR
ONE THING WE'RE ALLOWING, LIKE
ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION AND
SCHOOLS. I GET I GET A PHONE
CALL EVERY WEEK FROM MY
DAUGHTER'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE
GET EMAILS EVERY SINGLE WEEK, SO
THEY THIS WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER
THING THAT THEY WOULD BE SENDING
OUT ALONG WITH THE NOTICES THAT
THEY TYPICALLY SEND THROUGHOUT
THE YEAR. SO THE DISTRICTS THAT
DO THIS ALREADY AND THERE ARE
MANY THAT DO DON'T FIND IT TO BE
ANYTHING THAT'S PARTICULARLY
BURDENSOME. THEY DON'T HAVE TO
SEND IT HOME IN A HARD COPY. YOU
CAN JUST BE AN EMAIL THEY CAN
CHOOSE TO. THERE'S ALREADY
PACKETS OF MATERIAL THAT ARE
GIVEN TO STUDENTS AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. SO HAVING
ONE MORE PAGE IN IT REALLY ISN'T
A BIG DEAL. AND THEN YOUR LAST
QUESTION. WHAT WAS YOUR LAST
QUESTION ANSWERED. THAT TOO, IS
WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT
THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WILL
COME UP WITH THE ACTUAL NOTICE,
AND THEY HAVE THAT ALREADY
BECAUSE THEY ALREADY PROVIDE
THAT NOW, IT WOULD BE MY HOPE
THAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS GO A
LITTLE FURTHER AND GIVE NOT JUST
THE LEGAL REASONINGBUT ALSO
GIVE THE CURRENT EXAMPLES WHERE
PEOPLE HAVEN'T STORED FIREARMS
AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE
THAT A CHILD WAS SUICIDAL. MAYBE
THEY DIDN'T REALIZE AND THIS
HAPPENS IN EVERY COMMUNITY.
UNFORTUNATELY TO BE ABLE TO USE
THOSE ACTUAL EXPERIENCES TO
EDUCATE THEIR POPULATION TO
REALLY DRIVE IT HOME, HOW
IMPORTANT THIS IS I'LL JUST ADD
AS A MOM OF AN EIGHT YEAR OLD TO
BE NINE NEXT WEEK. ONE OF MY
BIGGEST FEARS IS NOT THE SCHOOL
SHOOTINGS. I'M ACTUALLY MORE
WORRIED ABOUT HER GOING FOR A
PLAYDATE, SOMEONE'S HOME AND
SOMEBODY KNOWING THAT DADDY'S
HANDGUN IS IN THE IN THE SHOEBOX
AT THE TOP OF THE CLOSET. IT
HAPPENS TOO OFTEN. I'VE HAD
FRIENDS WHO NOW ROUTINELY ASK
OTHER PARENTS. DO YOU HAVE A
FIREARM AT HOME? YOU KNOW, IS IT
STORED? THE PARENTS SHOULDN'T
HAVE TO ASK THAT IT SHOULD BE
SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY TAKES
SERIOUSLY AND EVERYONE DOES.
OKAY AND YOUR BILL. I DIDN'T SEE
IT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE
THAT REQUIRES THE PARENTS TO
ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE
NOTICE. IT'S JUST REQUIRING THAT
SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO GIVE THE
NOTICE. RIGHT, CORRECT. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ALRIGHT OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS SEEING NO
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. IS
THERE A MOTION? YES. CENTER
WIECKOWSKI MOVES THE BILL, WOULD
YOU CARE TO CLOSE? I WOULD JUST
URGE AN OVERT ON I WOULD URGE
AND I VOTE ON THIS AND THE REST
OF THE GUN PACKAGE THAT THE
GOVERNOR IS PROMOTING ALREADY.
THANK YOU. REMEMBER FRIEDMAN?
ALRIGHT UM, MADAM SECRETARY, IF
YOU WOULD CALL THE ROLL. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMEND AND REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG. HAMBURG. I BORE GIS.
CABALLERO. TO RUSTLE GONZALES.
HERZBERG JONES. CLEARED BY STERN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. AYE,
WIENER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL. UM NEXT
. WE HAVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
HOLDEN'S BILL. A B 6 76 7.
REMEMBER, HOLDEN IS NOT HERE,
BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP
THE CONSENT CALENDAR WHILE WE'RE
WAITING. ALL RIGHT. I'M MOVING.
SENATOR LAIRD MOVES THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. SECOND SYSTEM, MADAM
SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE
ROLL HAMBURG, VYBORG GIS
GORGEOUS. I CABALLERO GRASA. SO
I GONZALES HARTSBURG JONES.
LAIRD LEERED? AYE, STERN.
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. AYE,
WIENER. YOU HAVE. 5 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT, WE'LL
PUT THAT ON CALL. LET'S LET'S GO
. UM THROUGH THE MEASURES. LET'S
TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER ONE, MAYBE
13 81 FOR VOTE. WE NEED A MOTION
WE DO. SENATOR BORDERS MOVES THE
BILL. ITEM NUMBER ONE LLCS. A B
13 81 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GALLAGHER. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSES AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG.
HAMBURG. I BORE GIS. GORGEOUS I
CABALLERO DURAZO, Hí
HERTZBERG. JONES JONES, I
LAYERED ICE TURN. WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI. AYE, WIENER. YOU
HAVE 6 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS MISSING
ALRIGHT. WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL.
NEXT ITEM NUMBER TWO A. B 12 87.
IS THERE A MOTION? SENATOR
GRASSO MOVES THE BILL. UH FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 12 87 12 87
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BAUER-KAHAN.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED
BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG. HAMBURG.
I BORE GIS. WE'RE JUST NO
CABALLERO RUSSELL. RUSSELL, I
GONZALEZ. HERTZBERG. JONES.
JONES, NO LAIRD ICE TURN
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. AYE,
WIENER. YOU KNOW, 42 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. WE'LL PUT HAT
ON CALL. I SEE SILLY MEMBER
HOLDING HERE. UM SO I'M SORRY
BILLS AND JUST GET THEM ON THE
RECORD. AH, I SEE HEADS SHAKING.
SURE. UH MOVED BUILT A B 29. ALL
RIGHT. MADAM SECRETARY. IF YOU
CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER
FOUR A B 29 59. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND BE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
HAMBURG. HAMBURG. I. BURGESS
CABALLERO. TO RUSSELL. NUMBER
FOUR. NUMBER FOUR. GONZALES
HERTZBERG JONES. LAIRD ICE TURN.
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. AYE
WIENER. AFFORD TO ZERO WITH
MEMBERS MISSING, ALRIGHT BILLS
ON A B 17. ALRIGHT UH REMEMBER
FOUR IS ON CALL. I REMEMBER FIVE
A B 17 88 MOVED BY SENATOR
LAIRD. THE MOTION IS THROUGH
PASSES AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG.
HAMBURG. I BURGESS CABALLERO.
YOU'RE A SO. OKAY WHEN OKAY,
LET'S GO BACK TO SENATOR BORD
GIS, RIGHT, GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS.
I CAVALEIRO DO RUSSELL DURESS OR
NOT VOTING. GONZALES HERZBERG
JONES. JOHN'S I LAYERED DICE
TURN WIECKOWSKI CLEANER. YOU
HAVE 4 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS
MISSING. ALRIGHT. WE'LL PUT THAT
ON CALL. OKAY? UH, MR CHAIRMAN?
YES, CONSENT. SURE. SHOULD WE
CALL IT CONSENT CALENDAR ONE
MORE TIME. GO AHEAD, CALL THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. COMING GENERAL
GONZALES, HERZBERG JONES. JOHN'S
I EASTERN WIENER. 6 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT, WE'LL
PUT THAT ON CALL. ALL RIGHT. WE
HAVE THE VERY LAST BUILT TO BE
HEARD TODAY IN SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE. SO IF YOU ARE A
MEMBER SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE AND WISH TO BE
INCLUDED ON THE ROLE NOW WOULD
BE A GOOD TIME TO APPEAR IN ROOM
2100. AH! ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
HOLDING A B 676. AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. LET ME JUST SAY,
I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO BE
HERE TODAY AND TO BE ABLE TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 6 76 A
BIPARTISAN BILL. THAT WILL TAKE
A NUMBER OF STEPS TO RECTIFY THE
UNBALANCE. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
FRANCHISEES AND FRANCHISORS IN
2015 AND AUTHORED ASSEMBLY BILL
5 25. MAKING CALIFORNIA THE
STANDARD BEARER OF FAIRNESS FOR
THE FRANCHISOR AND FRANCHISEES
FRANCHISEE RELATIONSHIP. BECAUSE
OF MY OWN EXPERIENCE AS A
FRANCHISEE AND THE STORIES I
HEARD FROM CURRENT FRANCHISE
EASE. WHILE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE
BEEN MADE. 2020 HAS SHOWN US
THAT THERE IS STILL MORE WORK TO
BE DONE TO BRING FAIRNESS TO
THIS SYSTEM. BETWEEN ABDICATED
RESPONSIBILITIES TO FRANCHISEES
DURING THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC AND
THE REVELATION OF UNFAIR
TREATMENT OF FRANCHISEES OF
COLOR. TIME HAS REVEALED THAT
MORE ISSUES NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED. THIS BILL DOES
MULTIPLE THINGS TO RESOLVE THESE
ISSUES. IT EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS
FRANCHISORS FROM INFLUENCING
WHERE A FRANCHISEE CAN PURCHASE
A FRANCHISE BASED ON A PROTECTED
CLASS SUCH AS RACE. WHICH HAS
BEEN THE SUBJECT OF ONGOING
LAWSUITS AGAINST MCDONALD'S BY
AFRICAN AMERICAN FRANCHISEES.
SOME FRANCHISORS HAVE ISSUED THE
PANDEMIC. HAVE USED THE PANDEMIC
AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE
THEIR LIABILITY TO TRANSFER
BURDEN ONTO FRANCHISEES IN
EXCHANGE FOR FINANCIAL HELP.
THIS BILL PROHIBITS THAT.
CURRENTLY FRANCHISORS CAN
UNILATERALLY DETERMINE THE
AMOUNT FRANCHISEES Ó WHEN AN
AGREEMENT IS BEING TERMINATED,
OR NON RENEWED. THE BILL CREATES
A MORE FAIR PROCESS WHERE BOTH
PARTIES HAVE A SAY. A TRANSFER
BUYER OF A FRANCHISE. THAT WAS
ESTABLISHED BEFORE 2016 WILL NOT
RECEIVE THE PROTECTIONS
ESTABLISHED BY A B 5 25, EVEN
THOUGH THEY ARE SIGNING A NEW
FRANCHISE CONTRACT. AFTER THE
LAW'S ENACTMENT. THE BILL
ENABLES THAT. IT WILL ALSO
INCLUDE ADEQUATE DISCLOSURES
THAT ENSURE THAT ALL FRANCHISES
OR AND FRANCHISEES IN CALIFORNIA
OR COVERED BY THE LAW. AS
PROMISED. I'VE WORKED WITH THE
STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH THE MAY
16TH AMENDMENTS HAVE ADDRESSED
THE MAJOR CONCERNS PREVIOUSLY
BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE
INTERNATIONAL FRANCHISE
ASSOCIATION, AND THEY ARE NOW
NEUTRAL ON THE BILL. WITH ME TO
TESTIFY TODAY IS KEITH R. MILLER
OWNER, SUBWAY, GRASS VALLEY AND
AUBURN, CALIFORNIA PRINCIPAL
FRANCHISE ADVOCACY CONSULTING.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
HOLDEN. MR MILLER FLOOR IS YOURS
. THANK YOU, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS KEITH MILLER. I'M HERE
TODAY TO SUPPORT A B 676 ON
BEHALF OF ITS TWO SPONSORS.
FRANCHISEE ADVOCACY CONSULTING
IN THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
FRANCHISEES AND DEALERS, ALSO
HERE, REPRESENTING THE ASIAN
AMERICAN HOTEL OWNERS
ASSOCIATION, WHO HAVE NOW ENDED
THEIR SUPPORT TO THE BILL.
THAT'S AN ASSOCIATION THAT OWNS
OVER 62% OF THE HOTEL MOTELS IN
CALIFORNIA. I ALSO AS HE SAID IN
THE SUBWAY FRANCHISEE, SO IT'S
LIKE SINCE 1988. SO IT'S LIKE
JOKE. I'M THE SAME GUY THAT DOES
HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. UM MR
HOLDEN DID COVER MOSTLY ASPECTS
OF THE BILL. NO REASON FOR ME TO
REPEAT THAT AND AGAIN, THERE'S
NO OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THE
INTERNATIONAL FRANCHISE
ASSOCIATION DID SUBMIT A LETTER
OF CONCERN. UM IN ASSEMBLY. AND
EVEN THOUGH THE BILL PASSED
UNANIMOUSLY, AND ALL COMMITTEES
63 TO 1 ON THE FLOOR, BIPARTISAN
, UH WE STILL TOOK MANY
AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN
THE MAY AMENDMENTS. THAT WERE
TAKEN IN THIS AND WITHOUT THE
HAS REMOVED ANY OPPOSITION
CONCERNED ON THIS BILL, SO TODAY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE AND FOR A
COUPLE OF PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI HAS HEARD ME FOR
ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW HE'S GLAD
HE'S TURNING OUT SO HE NO LONGER
HAS A FRANCHISE, BILL AND MR
HERTZBERG. SAME THING. YOU'LL BE
DONE WITH ME ON FRANCHISE BILLS.
THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE MR
HERTZBERG ER SENATOR WIECKOWSKI
ARE QUITE DONE WITH FRANCHISE
BILLS YET, BUT, UM ALL RIGHT, UM
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. A B 676 MR
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE RANDY PAUL, ON BEHALF
OF THE INTERNATIONAL FRANCHISE
ASSOCIATION HAS MADE UP OF BOTH
FRANCHISORS AND THOUSANDS OF
FRANCHISEES WANT TO THANK THE
ASSEMBLY MEN AND THE PROPONENTS
FOR WORKING WITH US TO GET TO A
NEUTRAL POSITION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT. AH
SEEING NO ONE IN ROOM 2100
APPROACHING MICROPHONE ON THE
PHONE. AH MODERATE IF YOU WOULD
QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B
676 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B 676 PLEASE
PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT
THIS TIME ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO.
AND NOBODY IS QUEUING UP AT THIS
TIME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TURN TO
OPPOSITION. I SEE THAT THERE'S
NO PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES
ANYONE OPPOSED TO A B 676 HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM, SEEING NO
ONE APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE
ON THE PHONE MODERATOR IF YOU
WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 676. MEANTIME
I WILL ONCE AGAIN ANNOUNCED THAT
WE ARE QUICKLY COMING TO A CLOSE
HERE. SO IF YOU WISH TO BE ADDED
ONTO THE ROLE NOW WOULD BE A
GOOD TIME TO APPEAR IN ROOM 2100
IF YOU REMEMBER THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. MODERATOR
THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO A B 676.
PLEASE PRESS ONE. FALL BY ZERO.
IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO A B
6761 FOLLOWED BY 01 MOMENT,
PLEASE. WE DO HAVE ONE QUEUING
UP WITH AN OPERATOR. 22ND HERE.
ANYBODY ELSE GO AHEAD AND HIT
ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO. IF YOU'RE
IN OPPOSITION TO A B 676. AND
WE'RE GONNA LINE 41. YOU'RE
OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. UH JON
GORDON IN SAN DIEGO PACIFIC
MANAGEMENT CONSULTING GROUP IN
FAVOR OF A B 676 ALREADY. THANK
YOU. NOBODY ELSE QUEUED UP. OKAY
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. COMING
BACK TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS. SEEING NO QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI MOVES THE BILL. ALL
RIGHT. SOME REMEMBER HOLDEN CARE
CLOSE. WHO I JUST SAY I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF
THE BILL. AND I RESPECT FOR LAST
YEAR I VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM SECRETARY.
IF YOU CALL THE ROLL THIS IS A B
676 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDIN.
THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
BUSINESS AND FINANCIAL.
FINANCIAL WAIT A MINUTE, ONE
SECOND.
I THINK IT'S BANKING AND
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS. TYPE O,
OKAY, THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
BE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
BANKING AND FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS. HAMBURG, HAMBURG
GORGEOUS. OR JUST I CABALLERO.
TO RUSSELL. GONE SO I GONZALES
GONZALES. I HERTZBERG HERTZBERG,
I JONES. JONES, I LAIRD PARADISE
TURN. WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI.
AYE, WIENER. WIENER? AYE. YOU
HAVE. NO 9 TO 0 AND EVERYONE IS
HERE. ALRIGHT, BILL IS OUT.
THANKS CONGRATULATIONS. FIRST
BILL OUT TODAY, SO ALL RIGHT.
ALRIGHT LET'S LET'S START AT THE
TOP, UM, WITH THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. THIS IS FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. CABALLERO
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ, I HERZBERG
HERZBERG. AYE. STERN WIENER
WIENER? AYE. 9 TO 0, UH, CONSENT
CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. AH! FILE
ITEM NUMBER ONE A. B 13 81. THE
EURO. GONZALES. A B 13 81 FINAL
ITEM NUMBER ONE. GONZALEZ I
HERZBERG HERZBERG. AYE, STERN.
WIENER. WIENER I YOU HAVE 9 TO 0
BILL IS OUT. A FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWO A B 12 87. CABALLERO.
GONZALES. GONZALEZ I HERZBERG
HERZBERG. AYE, STERN. WIENER.
WIENER, I YOU HAVE 7 TO 2. BILL
IS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR A
B 29 59. GORGEOUS. CABALLERO.
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG
HERTZBERG, I JONES. STERN.
WIENER. WIENER? AYE. YOU HAVE 7
TO 0. BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIVE A B 17 88.
CABALLERO. GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG? AYE,
STERN. WIECKOWSKI WIENER. WIENER
NÓ. SIX. YOU HAVE 6 TO 1. FILL
US OUT. WE'RE DOING A RECOUNT.
IS THAT THE CORRECT COUNT?
ALRIGHT 6 TO 1, JUST AS I SAID,
BILLS OUT, OKAY, OKAY, MAYBE 4
52 FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE
GORGEOUS. CABALLERO GONZALES.
GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG HARTSBURG
I JONES. STERN. WIENER. WIENER?
AYE. THAT'S 7 TO 0. ALRIGHT
THAT'S THE BILLS OUT. I THINK
THAT'S THE FINAL BILL. UM THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL RECONVENE
NEXT TUESDAY AT 10 A.M. IS THAT
CORRECT? MADAM CHIEF COUNSEL.
YOU KNOW?