SOUND QUALITY COMMITTEE WILL
COME TO ORDER. AS WE CONTINUE TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENTS. HE HAD A
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE. THE
PARTICIPATION TOLD FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. IT'S GOING TO
BE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN JUST
IN A MINUTE HERE AND LET ME
ANNOUNCE IT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPATION NUMBER IS
844291636, AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. 1411140 NOW I WILL MAINTAIN
DECORUM DURING THE HEARING,
WHICH IS CUSTOMARY, AND ANY
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DISRUPTIVE MAY
BE REMOVED FROM THE REMOTE
HEARING MEETING SERVICE AND HAVE
THEIR CONNECTIONS MUTED. WE'RE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARING
HERE IN THE STREET BUILDING. I
ASKED THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE BE PRESENT IN ROOM
1200 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM AND BEGIN THE HEARING AND
CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE
SENATE. NOW WE HAVE 11 BILLS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA AND FIVE ITEMS
AROUND THE CONSENT COUNT.
CALENDAR THOSE ITEMS ARE ITEMS
NUMBER 1349 AND 11 BEFORE WE
HEAR AH! WELL WE'RE GOING TO
PROCEED AS A SUBCOMMITTEE SINCE
WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, A QUORUM
HERE AND WHEN THE APPROPRIATE
TIME COMES, I MISS WONG. I WILL
ASK TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM. I
WILL ASK MISS WHOLE CAMP TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. SO THE FIRST
MATTER WE HERE WE HAVE IS ITEM
NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A B 649
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. GOOD
MORNING. THIS IS A BILL THAT
SEEKS ESTABLISHED THE OFFICE OF
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND TRIBAL
RELATIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT
OF RESOURCE RESOURCES, RECYCLING
AND RECOVERY ALSO KNOWN AS
CALVARY CYCLE. GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE PROCEED. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR. A B 6 49 HOLD ON A
SECOND. WE'RE.
LET'S SEE. LET'S LET'S TAKE A
PAUSE.
SORRY OR THAT INTERRUPTION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT, PLEASE
PROCEED. UH, ONCE AGAIN FOR
THOSE WHO HAVE PAYING ATTENTION
. TELEPHONICALLY THIS IS A B
649. ON THE OFFICE OF
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBER. A B 6 49 WOULD OPEN THE
OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
AND TRIBAL RELATIONS AT CALORIE
CYCLE. THIS OFFICE WOULD ENSURE
THAT CALORIE CYCLES
INCORPORATING VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES NEEDS AND CONCERNS
INTO THEIR POLICIES. DECISION
MAKERS SHOULD BE LISTENING TO
THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR AND TRIBAL COMMUNITIES
, BUT OFTEN OVERLOOKED THEM. IN
MANY INSTANCES, TRIBAL LAND IS
CURRENTLY BEING USED TO HOST
MANY ENVIRONMENTALLY HARMFUL
PROJECTS. SO IT'S ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT TO INCORPORATE THEIR
VOICES DURING IMPLEMENTATION OF
FUTURE PROJECTS. MAYBE 6 49 WILL
MAKE SURE THAT THESE
UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES
HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE DURING
ALL FUTURE PROJECTS THAT CALORIE
CYCLING AND TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT OF A B 6 49 IS NICOLE
KURIAN FROM CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE. AND SHE'S WITH US BY
PHONE. MS. KOREAN, UH PLEASE GO
AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I
CAN. OR WE CAN SHARE OFTEN. THE
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT COMMUNITIES
DESIGNATED DISADVANTAGE UNDER
KELLY TO BE NEAR HAZARDOUS WASTE
FACILITIES, SOUTHWEST SIDE OIL
AND GAS PRODUCTION SIDE AND
EXTRACTION SITE. AND ARE
VULNERABLE TO COLLUSION AND
HEALTH IMPACT. KELLY PH 2021
CALENDAR VIRUS ANALYSIS ON RACE
AND ETHNICITY INDICATES BACK IN
LATINO FOLKS MAKE UP 18 AND 25%
OF THOSE RESIDING IN THE TOP 10%
OF THE MOST DISADVANTAGED
NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY IN
THE TOP 10% MOST IMPACTED STATE
NEIGHBORHOOD 91% OF THE
POPULATION IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE
OF COLOR IN THE 10% LESS
IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS. 67% OF
THE POPULATION. HIS WEIGHT.
WITHOUT ACCESS TO PROPER
REPRESENTATION, VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES. CALIFORNIA WILL
CONTINUE TO GO UNREPRESENTATIVE
POLICIES ARE OPENING ULTIMATELY
AFFECT THEIR CANADIAN HEALTH.
MAYBE 6 49 ENSURES THE NEED OF
DISADVANTAGED NEEDY COMMUNITIES
. CALIFORNIA NATIVE AMERICAN
TRIBES AND FARMER PLEASE
CONSIDERED IN POLICIES AND
INITIATIVES PROMOTED WITHIN THE
COW RECYCLE OFFICE. ESTABLISHING
THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE AND TRAVEL RELATIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM. SEEING
NO OTHER SCHEDULED WITNESSES.
ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM 1200 IN SUPPORT OF A B? AH
649. LET'S MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, SENSING
NONE. MODERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
PROMPT THOSE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 649 AND CALLED
THEM INDIVIDUALLY? CERTAINLY IF
YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IN
FAVOR OF A B 649 PLEASE PRESS 10
AT THIS TIME. AND THERE ARE NO
COMMENTS FOR A B 649 CHAIR. ALL
RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE
OPPOSITION ON A B 649. I HAVE NO
RECORDED LEAD WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. SO ARE THERE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE IN
ROOM 1200 WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SATISIFIED IN THAT POSITION OF A
B 649 SEEING NONE. MADAM
MODERATOR, WILL YOU PLEASE
PROMPT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WISHING TO TESTIFY AGAINST A B
649 AND CALLED THEM
INDIVIDUALLY? AND IF YOU'D LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF BABY
649, PLEASE PRESS IS 10. AND
THERE ARE NO COMMENTS IN THE
QUEUE. MR CHAIR. ALRIGHT, WE'LL
CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. MISS
BATES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
TO THE AUTHOR ON ON THIS BILL TO
ESTABLISH THE OFFICE OF
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND TRIBAL
RELATIONS WITHIN CALORIE CYCLE?
NO QUESTIONS. JUST A CONCERN.
I'M GOING TO LAY OFF TODAY. I'M
CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER
STATE FUNDED OFFICE WHEN IT
SEEMS TO HAVE THE PROCESS IS
ALREADY PRESENT. IT JUST, YOU
KNOW, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE, BUT SETTING UP
ANOTHER STATE FUNDED OFFICES OF
CONCERN TO ME. UM GOAL IS GOOD,
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S
SOMETHING WITHIN CAROL RECYCLED
CAN ADDRESS THAT SIDE. I NEED TO
DO A LITTLE OF LITTLE DEEPER.
LOOK AT IT. BUT TODAY I'M GONNA
LAY OFF. OKAY UM, UH, SOME
REMEMBER BETTER. YOU INDICATED
IN YOUR TESTIMONY, THERE'S MANY
OF THESE TRIBAL LANDS OR THAT
ARE CURRENTLY BEING HARMFUL
HARMED RIGHT NOW, COULD YOU GIVE
US SOME BREATH OR SOME
INDICATION OF WHERE THESE ARE
WHERE I GOT THAT INFORMATION
FROM THE ORGANIZATION.
CALIFORNIA'S AGAINST WASTE. I
WILL ASK NICOLE CURRY AND IF SHE
COULD HELP US OUT WITH THAT
ANSWER CAN YOU GO AHEAD, MISS.
CURRENT THE TESTIMONY IS THAT
THERE'S VARIOUS TRIBAL LANDS
THAT ARE AT RISK OF BEING AH!
COMPROMISE WITH. POLLUTING
ENTITIES WERE THESE AT. ARE YOU
THERE? MISS CURRY IN I'M SORRY,
SIR. I DON'T HAVE THE
INFORMATION ON THAT I CAN GET
BACK TO YOU. OKAY YEAH. JUST
GIVE US A RUN DOWN THE LIST OF
WHERE THESE SITES ARE THAT ARE
AT RISK. UM ALSO, I GUESS THE
QUESTION IS, IS THAT WE HAVE A
THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
PROGRAM THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
AND IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS AN
OVERLAP. OF THE PROGRAM WITH
THIS OFFICE AND AS MY COLLEAGUE
TO MY RIGHT HAS INDICATED
GENERALLY WE DON'T LIKE
REDUNDANCY IN IN GOVERNMENT. WHY
WHY IS THE PROGRAM IN ADEQUATE
TO? I BELIEVE YOUR WITNESS SAID
ENSURE REPRESENTATION. WHY? WHY
IS THE OFFICE NECESSARY? WHAT
THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE
PROVIDED AS, UH, AS WE WERE
REQUESTED TO LOOK INTO THE SPILL
AND DO THIS BILL. IT'S JUST THAT
AT CAL CYCLE WHEN THEY LAUNCHED
THESE BIG PROJECTS, ETCETERA.
THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY
STEADY RIGHT THERE IN THE
DEPARTMENT, UM, STAYING ON TOP
OF THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT
YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE IN ALL THE
THINGS YOU NEED TO DO. QUITE
FRANKLY, WITH THE DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES THAT I HAVE IN MY
DISTRICT. OUTREACH TO THE
COMMUNITY, GETTING INPUT FROM
THE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY, ALWAYS
CHALLENGING TIME CONSUMING, AND
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR AN
OUTSIDE AGENCY TO COME IN AND DO
THAT. IN PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY, UM, BELIEF IS
THAT THIS WOULD MAKE THIS
CALORIE CYCLING DEPARTMENT THAT
HAS THAT SPECIFIC FOCUS AND A
NUMBER OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
CERTAINLY ARE CAPABLE OF HAVING
THAT CALORIE CYCLE DOESN'T HAVE
ANY SPECIFIC FOCUS WITHIN THE
AGENCY. I MEAN, I THE AIR BOARD
HAS COME BEFORE THE BUDGET
COMMITTEE THAT I CHAIR ASKING
FOR THE SAME THING. THEY WANT TO
HAVE THEIR OFFICE. AND THE
QUESTION THAT COMES TO US IS
THAT, HE SAID. IT'S LIKE YOU
SERVED ON THE SUPER BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS WHEN WE ASKED LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TO ADAPT CLIMATE
CHANGE. WE DIDN'T ASK THEM TO
SET UP A ELEMENT OF CLIMATE
CHANGE. WE ASKED THEM TO EMBED
THAT INTO ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT
THEY HAVE SO THAT CLIMATE IS
GOING TO BE DETERMINED WHEN YOU
LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION. WE'VE
ASKED THAT OF OUR COMMUNITIES
AND OUR DEPARTMENTS ON RACIAL
EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. WE
DID WE DIDN'T SAY SET UP WHAT
DEPARTMENT WE SAY IMBEDDED INTO
ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE.
SO IT SEEMS WITH THAT WITH THAT
GENERAL PHILOSOPHY THAT WE HAVE
WHEN IT ADVOCATES OR THE
DEPARTMENT COMES TO US AND
SAYING WE WANT TO DEPARTMENT IT
SEEMS LIKE IT'S HOW WOULD I SAY
THAT'S INCONGRUENT TO IT WITH
THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY THAT WE
HAVE AND AGAIN WITH THE OTHER
DUPLICITY OF WE HAVE A PROGRAM
WHICH WE ASSUME IS BEING
IMPLEMENTED. A SYSTEM WIDE AQUEL
RECYCLE. WELL I APPLAUD, AND I
THINK IT'S WISE TO ALWAYS BE
SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE REQUEST OF
CREATING UP CREATING A SEPARATE
DEPARTMENT INSIDE OF AN AGENCY.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT'S UH
IT'S JUSTIFIED IN TIMES WHEN
IT'S NOT IN YOUR ROLE ON THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE AND YOUR
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE THOSE
THOSE QUESTIONS ADDRESSED. I
BELIEVE YOU. UH CERTAINLY IT'S
I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT
AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO
THAT. BUT THAT'S FROM THE
INFORMATION THAT I'VE THAT WE
RECEIVED BOTH IN TALKING WITH
THE WITH THIS ORGANIZATION AND
THE AGENCY. UM THEY CONVINCED US
THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. UM
MS. MISS HALL CAMP. CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH A QUORUM BEFORE WE
PROCEED WITH THE QUESTION FROM
SOUTHERN GONZALES? YES SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI HERE, SENATOR BATES.
SENATOR CORTEZ. SENATOR DOLLY
SENATOR GONZALEZ. LAWCENTER
SKINNER. SENATOR SKORTON. WE
HAVE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM,
SENATOR GONZALEZ YOU RECOGNIZE
THANK YOU, UM. CHAIR WIECKOWSKI
AND THANK YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I
AM I DO AGREE WITH WHAT THE
SENATOR SAYING ABOUT YOU KNOW,
SHOULD BE EMBEDDED IN EVERY SORT
OF PILLAR AND EVERY SORT OF
DEPARTMENT, HOWEVER, HAVING AN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY
AS WELL IN SOUTHEAST LOS ANGELES
THAT UM OFTENTIMES GETS
OVERLOOKED WITH A LOT OF THESE
PROGRAMS AND POLICIES. I THINK
THIS IS JUST I THINK IT
ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE CALLED
OUT. AND EVEN JUST YESTERDAY, I
THINK I WAS READING THAT. OUR
FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL
SECRETARY JAVIER BASARA IN THE
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT LEVEL IS ALSO
CREATING AN ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ASPECT DEPARTMENT
BECAUSE MANY OF THESE
COMMUNITIES DON'T FEEL LIKE
THEY'RE PART OF THESE SOLUTIONS.
AND SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE
WITH THIS BILL. I KNOW THAT
THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE WORK TO
DO. I'D LOVE TO BE INVOLVED IN
THAT WORK WITH YOU AND I ARE AND
I VOTE IN THIS. WILL TAKE THAT
AS A MOTION. UH TO, UH, TO
APPROVE THE MATTERS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S YOU MAKE
CLOTHES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
AND I DO APPRECIATE THE
QUESTIONS, PARTICULARLY DEALING
WITH THE FISCAL INTEGRITY OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND HOW
MANY OF THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT
YOU CREATE? I THINK WE ARE AT A
PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE'RE
RECOGNIZING HOW MUCH WE HAVE,
UH, INADVERTENTLY IMPACTED
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES WITH
PROJECTS, UH, AND CALORIE CYCLE
TYPE PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT
HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AS THEY
MOVE FORWARD. AND AS I MENTIONED
BEFORE THAT STEADY, SOMEBODY IN
THE IN THE DEPARTMENT STEADY
STAYING ON TOP OF THE
INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY
IS GETTING THAT INPUT IS REALLY
VALUABLE. AND SO I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AND I VOTE. ALL RIGHT.
MISS HAWKINS, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL? YES ITEM NUMBER
TWO A. B 6 49 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS BUT FIRST
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. WIECKOWSKI
ORTEZ. SALLY. GONZALEZ. AND I
WAS SKINNER. STERN. BELIEVE THE
ROLE OPEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE WE GOT A QUORUM AND
THAT'S ALL WE GOT. ALRIGHT LET'S
GO TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. I SEE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PATTERSON IS
HERE. PLEASE COME FORWARD, SIR.
WELCOME TO THE SENATE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY MEMBERS
BEFORE OUR GOOD COLLEAGUE BEGINS
HIS PRESENTATION ON A B 11 54
WANT TO MENTION THAT THERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE AMENDMENT.
UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT SENATOR
ALLEN HAS BEEN DISCUSSING WHAT
THE AUTHORS OFFICE. THIS
AMENDMENT WILL BE IN ADDITION TO
THE AMENDMENT THAT IS CONTAINED
IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND WOULD
REQUIRE THAT AN EGRESS ROUTE BE
SCALED TO THE EXISTING
POPULATION OF THE SUBDIVISION,
SO IT'S NOT THE VEHICLE OF
GROWTH. THE AMENDMENT IS
INTENDED TO ADDRESS SOME SOME
STAKEHOLDER CONCERNS THAT THE
ADDITIONAL ROAD WOULD INDUCE
GROWTH. EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE
A PRINTED, UM, A PRINTOUT OF
WHAT? THE LANGUAGE. WOULD
POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE I BELIEVE
IT HAS. IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND WITH THAT. AH SOME OF THEM
ARE PATERSON. YOU MOVE AGAIN.
YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS IS A B
11 54. UM. AND RECOMMENDATIONS
TO PASS AFTER THESE AMENDMENTS
ARE THANK YOU. UH MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT I GLADLY
ACCEPT ALL THE AMENDMENTS. UM I
THINK THAT IT IN FACT DOES
IMPROVE THE BILL. IN 2018
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN
AUTHORED A B 29 11 REQUIRING THE
BOARD OF FORESTRY AND FIRE
PROTECTION. TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IMPROVE THE
FIRE SAFETY OF EXISTING
SUBDIVISIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A
SECONDARY EGRESS ROUTE LESS THAN
TWO MONTHS AFTER A B 29 11 WAS
SIGNED INTO LAW, WE HAD THE
DEADLY CAMPFIRE. THROUGH THE
CITY OF PARADISE HAD KILLED 86
PEOPLE DESTROYED 14,000 HOMES.
CAPACITY PROBLEMS
NOTWITHSTANDING, PARADISE DID
HAVE DOES HAVE FOUR ROUTES TO
GET RESIDENTS OUT OF TOWN IN THE
EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. MANY
OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE ONLY ONE
AND HAD THIS BEEN VACATION
PARADISE. WE COULD HAVE EXPECTED
MUCH MORE. THAT THE DEATH TOLL
WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER.
THIS BILL BEFORE YOU WITH THE
AMENDMENTS PROVIDES A SEQUEL
EXEMPTION FOR PROJECTS
RECOMMENDED BY THE BOARD OF
FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION
THAT IMPROVE THE FIRE SAFETY OF
THOSE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE
LOCATED IN HIGH OR VERY HIGH
FIRE HAZARD ZONES AND WHO DO NOT
HAVE ENOUGH EXIT ROUTES TO GET
RESIDENTS OUT SAFELY. A PREVIOUS
VERSION OF THIS BILL WAS PASSED
BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT IT WAS
VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR IN HIS
VETO MESSAGE FELT LIKE THERE WAS
NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THE
CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE UNIQUE
RISKS THAT SOME OF THESE.
COMMUNITIES WERE TAKING.
HOWEVER, WE NOW KNOW THAT WE
HAVE MUCH MORE INFORMATION. IN
LIGHT OF THE INCREASING NUMBER
IN THE SEVERITY OF THE FIRES. WE
NOW HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE
CREEK FIRE. DIXIE FIRE KALDOR
FIRE JUST A FEW TO NAME. AT THE
BOARD HAS NOW REALIZED
SUBDIVISION REVIEWS. I'M SORRY,
RELEASED THESE SORTS OF IT'S A
REALLY PERFECT TIME TO IMPLEMENT
THE POLICY. CAL FIRE ANTICIPATES
THAT THE COSTS FROM REVIEWING
THESE CRITICAL PROJECTS WILL BE
RECOVERED. THROUGH LOCAL
PROJECTS, AND SIMILARLY, THE
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
STATES THAT ALTHOUGH THEY WILL
LIKELY SEE AN INCREASE ON
PERMITS, THOSE COSTS COULD BE
OFFSET BY A FEE REVENUE. A B 11
54 IS A SOLUTION THAT WILL
ENSURE THAT PROJECTS AND HIGH
AND VERY HIGH SEVERITY ZONES CAN
BE COMPLETED WITH THE URGENCY
IDENTIFIED BY THE BOARD OF
FORESTRY ON THE PHONE TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT HIS CURTIS CHASTAIN
, HE'S PRESIDENT OF THE PINE
RIDGE PROPERTY OWNERS
ASSOCIATION AND A VOLUNTEER
FIREFIGHTER. ALRIGHT MISS AND WE
ALSO HAVE FROM THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA
JOHN KENNEDY, WHO WOULD LIKE MR
CHESS TEAM FIRST OR LET'S GO TO
MR MR CHEST STAND. ARE YOU ON
THE LINE FIRST AND THEN? JOHN
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. MR CHASTAIN.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO
AS A AS A FULL TIME RESIDENTS OF
THE COMMUNITY AND ONE THAT HAS
GONE THROUGH THE CREEK FIRE. UM,
OUR COMMUNITY HAD 88. POEMS
WITHIN THE IN OUR COMMUNITY
AFTER THE FIRE, UM 66 FOR THOSE
HOMES WERE COMPLETELY THE
SMALLEST AND WE ONLY HAVE 22
LEFT. UM WE HAVE TO EXISTING
FIRE ESCAPES TO OUR COMMUNITY
BELOW THE SHAVER LAKE AREA. UH,
THEY WERE IMPERATIVE TO THE
SURVIVAL OF THE RESIDENTS NOT
ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT
THEY'RE JOINING COMMUNITY WHO
WAS ABLE TO USE OUR ROADS TO
ESCAPE FROM THAT FIRE. MORE
IMPORTANT THE VALUE OF THOSE TWO
GATES WERE THEY ALLOWED, WHICH
WE HAD? WHAT? WE HADN'T
TRANSPORT AND THAT WAS FOR THE
FIRE UNITS TO RESPOND STATEWIDE
TO THAT CREEK FIRE THEY WERE
ALLOWED TO USE THESE EMERGENCY
ESCAPE GATE. TO ACTUALLY BRING
IN NEEDED EQUIPMENT AND WATER,
UM TO HEAD OFF THE FIRE AS IT
SWITCHED DIRECTIONS TOWARD THE
CANYON. SO UM, THE GATES
THROUGHOUT THE NATIONAL PORTS
LAND AND TO AN ADJOINING
COMMUNITY. I'M VERY WELL AWARE
OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE
SHAVER LAKE AREA THAT WAS
DEVASTATED BY THE FIRE THAT I
ONLY HAVE ONE AND THERE'S MORE.
THERE'S MORE OF A NEED FOR THAT
TO THE ACCESS. THE ROADS INTO
THE NATIONAL COURTS LAND SO I'M
NOT INTO ANY QUESTIONS. I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT
MATTER. NO, STAY THERE. MR
KENNEDY. APPEARS THAT RURAL
CALIFORNIA IS HAVING A ENJOYING
A CERTAIN UNDER RIETI THIS
MORNING, SO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND
SHARE WITH US YOUR THOUGHTS ON A
B 11 54. GOOD MORNING, JOHN
KENNEDY WITH RC RC, REPRESENTING
39 RURAL COUNTIES WERE PLEASED
TO SPONSOR THE BILL THIS
MORNING. WE THINK THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT BILL BECAUSE MANY OF
OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN
RAVAGED BY WILDFIRES WITH
UNIMAGINABLE CONSEQUENCES.
PERHAPS THE MOST EGREGIOUS AND
HEART RENDING OF WHICH BEING
PARADISE. THEY WERE COMMUNITY
THAT HAD MULTIPLE EGRESS ROUTES
BUT STILL LOST A NUMBER OF
LIVES. BECAUSE OF THE
DEVELOPMENT DIFFICULTY OF
GETTING OUT IN THE EVENT OF AN
EMERGENCY. SO WE'RE SUPPORTIVE
OF THIS BILL BECAUSE IT'S A
NARROW EXEMPTION. IT IS NARROW.
THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT, AND
THAT'S ONE OF THE FAULTS OF IT,
BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S INTENDED
TO WORK, SO IT'S NARROW BECAUSE
IT WON'T APPLY IF THERE ARE ANY
WETLANDS, RIPARIAN AREAS THAT
ARE IMPACTED. IT WON'T APPLY IF
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANY
PROTECTED SPECIES OR PLANTS THAT
ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE
BILL, OR ARCHAEOLOGICAL,
CULTURAL RESOURCES IMPACTED BY
THE BILL. BUT IT'S INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT TO GET THESE PROJECTS
DONE QUICKLY DONE COST
EFFECTIVELY AND TO AVOID
POTENTIALLY LINKED THE SEQUEL
LITIGATION DELAYS ASSOCIATED
WITH THESE PROJECTS. WE
APPRECIATE THE AMENDS THAT WERE
SUGGESTED BY SOME OF THE
OPPONENTS, ESPECIALLY THE AMEND
THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS ADOPTING
TO RIGHT SIZE THE EGRESS ROUTE
TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S
IMPACTED. AND STRONGLY URGE YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY ON A TECHNICAL BASIS. DON'T
GO ANYWHERE. LET'S SEE. LET'S
LET'S TURN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORTIVE 11 54. SEEING
NOBODY COMING UP TO THE MIX AND
ROOM 1200. LET'S MODERATOR,
LET'S MOVE TO THOSE ON THE
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE OFFERED
BY THIS CALIFORNIA STATE SENATE
, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
A B 11 54. AND WE DO HAVE LINE
17. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. MORNING
CHAIR MEMBERS. ON BEHALF OF
MODERNA COUNTY, PROUD SPONSORS
AND STRONG SUPPORTERS OF A B 11
54. THANK YOU.
AND THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS FOR SUPPORT OF 11 54.
OKAY THEN LET'S MOVE TO THE
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE. I BELIEVE
ON THE LINE. WE HAVE, UM, THE
POLICY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND
THE CONSERVATION LEAGUE. UH, MR
MATTHEW BAKER. MR BAKER. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THIS IS OPPOSITION TO
A B 11 54. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING. SENATORS THIS IS
MATTHEW BAKER POST, THE DIRECTOR
FOR PLANNING AND CONSERVATION.
LEE. I'M GOING TO START BY
OFFERING MY APOLOGIES TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR GETTING COMMENTS
INSTEAD, LATE AND TO THE AUTHOR
FOR NOT TO BE IT, COMMUNICATING
OUR CONCERNS EARLIER. THE ARE
CERTAINLY OF THE BILL AS WRITTEN
BUT HAVE CHOSEN TO BE OPPOSING
THIS BECAUSE WE FEEL THIS IS
WORTH THE CONVERSATION TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO DO THIS, RIGHT? THE
COMMUNITY IS PARAMOUNT THAT WE
FEAR THAT SUCH A BROAD SECRET
EXEMPTION FOR SAFETY EGRESS
INADVERTENTLY WE ONLY JUST IN
YOUR ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO
UNCHECKED GROWTH IN AREAS THAT
EVEN MORE FAMILIES IN HARM'S
WAY. WE ARE HAPPY. THE AUTHORS
ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
TODAY, BOTH OF WHICH WE THINK
ARE STEPS IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION, BUT WE STILL HAVE
CONCERNS. WE APPRECIATE OUR
INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH
RESPONSES AND HOPE THAT THEY CAN
COMMIT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US
STILL MOVES FORWARD. SO MUCH
MORE TO CONSIDER TO GET THIS
RIGHT CURRENTLY DOES NOT
CONTEMPLATE VERY GOOD
DISTINCTION BETWEEN PRETTY
PLANNING FOR EGRESS VERSUS WHAT
TO DO AND REMEMBER IN TWO
SITUATIONS. TWO VERY DISTINCT
SITUATIONS THAT YOU KNOW
POTENTIALLY WEREN'T DIFFERENT
ROLES AND DIFFERENT ENERGY
GOVERNING THEM. SECONDLY AND
IMPORTANT, THERE ARE ALSO VERY
WIDELY VARYING DIFFERENCES IN
THE NEEDS AND IMPACT OF
ACCUSATION, PLANNING AND URBAN
SUBURBAN WORLD COMMUNITY
CONTEXT. THE PRESENT JUST ABOUT
MILES. UNINCORPORATED
COMMUNITIES. SPONSORS I THINK
HAVE BEEN DOING IT AS I MEAN,
THIS WILL BE APPLIED TO A LOT OF
SUBURBAN AND MORE URBAN, NOT
HEAVILY URBANIZED AREAS. IT'S A
DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS TO
THINK ABOUT AND OFFERING SUCH A
STRONG SEQUENCE OPTION. WITH
THESE DISTINCTIONS IN MIND. THE
OFFER NUMBER SUGGESTIONS TO
ENSURE EXTREME MINING AND EGRESS
ROUTES COULD BE DONE MORE
RESPONSIBLY. IN ADDITION TO THE
APPROPRIATE SCALING OF THE
FACILITY TO THE CURRENT
POPULATION, WHICH WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT WE ALSO
SEE UNDER THE JURISDICTION BE
REQUIRED TO DEVELOP
COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY ACCESS.
AN EVACUATION PLAN FOR
POPULATION THAT DEMONSTRATES AND
JUSTIFIES. IDENTIFIED THE NEED
FOR THIS IDENTIFIED ROUTE. WE
ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT
CALLED PLANNING ORGANIZATION OR
THE MPO. TRANSPORTATION COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY MUST
ALSO APPROVE THE IDENTIFIED
CROWDED AS PART OF HIS ADOPTED
REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN OR
OTHERWISE, THEY DETERMINED, NOT
INHIBIT THE REGION'S ABILITY TO
ACHIEVE THROUGH, YOU KNOW,
GREENHOUSE, CATHERINE ACTION
TARGET OR FEDERAL CLEAN AREA
OBLIGATION. AND BECAUSE OF THE
GOOD INDUCEMENT CONCERNS HIGHER
AREAS. WE DO FEEL THAT AN IMPACT
ANALYSIS FOR BMT MDS WINNING
INVESTMENT MUST BE DONE FOR
THESE ROUTES AND BE WE FEEL THAT. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO
GET A SEAT EXEMPTION FOR
EMERGENCY EGRESS ROUTE, BUT THAT
ROUTE SHOULD STAY EMERGENCY
EGRESS AND THAT THAT FUTURE
ACCESS TO THAT ROAD OR FUTURE
GROWTH ALONG THAT ROAD SHOULD BE
PROHIBITED AT LEAST VERY,
EXTREMELY LIMITED. UM YOU KNOW,
WE DO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. THIS
BILL WAS WRITTEN TODAY. BUT UM,
IF NOT COMMITTEE DOES INCLINED
TO PASS EVERYTHING THAT WE WILL
BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY THERE.
DISCUSS MORE AMENDMENTS WITH THE
AUTHOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY LET'S TURN TO ROOM 1200.
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 11 54 SEEING
NONE MODERATOR, LET'S TURN TO
THE TELEPHONIC SERVICE. OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE
QUEUE WISHING TO TESTIFY AGAINST
A B 11 54, CAN YOU CALL THEM
INDIVIDUALLY? YES WE HAVE A LINE
NUMBER 16 YOUR LINES OPEN. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. UM,
THIS IS KIM DELFINO,
REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA NATIVE
PLANT SOCIETY, DEFENDERS OF
WILDLIFE IN THE ENDANGERED
HABITATS LEAGUE. I LIKE THAT
LINE. MY COMMENTS WITH THOSE
MADE BY MATT BAKER WAS THE
PLANNING AND CONSERVATION LEAGUE
ALSO WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR
GETTING OUR LETTER IN LATE AS
WELL AS NOT CONTACTING THE
AUTHOR. WE ARE PLEASED TO SEE
THE TWO AMENDMENTS. THEY DO
PROVIDE IMPROVEMENTS. HOWEVER
THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS REMAIN
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. UM WE
STILL ARE CONCERNED THAT A ROADS
UM UH, COULD IMPACT WATER BODIES
OUTSIDE OF PROJECT FOOTPRINTS.
THERE'S NO CONSULTATION
REQUIREMENT WITH REGIONAL
WATERBOARD. AND ALSO, WHILE WE
APPRECIATE THE CONSULTATION
REQUIREMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, THERE'S NO
REQUIREMENT THAT THE THAT THE
PROJECT AFRICAN HAS TO ACTUALLY
DO ANYTHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT
RECOMMENDS. AND SO FOR THOSE
REASONS WE WRITE, REMAIN IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, BUT
AGAIN DO APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE PROVIDING THOSE TWO
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. MODERATE
ANYBODY ELSE. AND ONCE AGAIN IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF BABY 11 54 PRESS
10 AT THIS TIME. AND THERE ARE
NO PROMISE IN THE QUEUE. MR
CHAIR. OKAY LET'S CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING, BRINGING IT BACK
TO MEMBERS CENTER PAGE TO
RECOGNIZE. I JUST WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PATTERSON FOR YOU KNOW, BRINGING
THIS FORWARD UPDATING IT IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY HOME IN
PARTICULAR. WE JUST SUFFERED
THAT SCARY MOMENT OF APPROVED,
POTENTIALLY HAVING TO EVACUATE
IF THE WIND HAD SHIFTED. MY
HOUSE WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT IN
THE CENTER OF THE FIRE. OUR OUR
ROADS WERE BLOCKED TO GET
INGRESS AND EGRESS BOTH, BUT WE
LIVE IN A DEVELOPED AREA AND
PROVIDING ANOTHER ONE, WHICH
WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY THERE'S ONE
THAT RUNS THROUGH A LETHAL BE A
HILL LETHAL WOODS CANYON, WHICH
IS ONLY FOR THE FIRE FOLKS, BUT
IT WOULD HAVE PROVIDED ANOTHER
ACCESS IF NECESSARY. SO THESE
ARE THINGS I THINK WE'RE REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON
RIGHT NOW. SO THAT OUR FIRE
FIGHTER PERSONNEL CAN BE OUT AND
LOOKING AT EVERY COMMUNITY THAT
MIGHT NEED, UH, TO KNOW WHAT
ANOTHER EXIT ROUTE IS BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CHAOS
OF THE MOMENT. HOW DO I GET
THERE? HOW DO I GET OUT? AND
THAT HAPPENED IN IN PARTICULAR
IN MY SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD
BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET IN AND
HELP MY HUSBAND WHO WAS THERE
ALONE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE
NEED TO TAKE FORWARD AND MAKE
SURE THAT ALL OF US IN OUR
DISTRICTS WITH HIGH FIRE HAZARD
ZONES UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO AND
HELP OUR RESIDENTS ARE WITH THE
INFORMATION OF WHAT TO DO. SO
APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH HOW MY
STRONG SUPPORT SENATOR GONZALEZ.
THANK YOU. UM UH, MR CHAIR AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. I APPRECIATE
WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR
THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. I KNOW
YOU TOOK AMENDMENTS TO BE BE
ABLE TO INCLUDE THE CONSULTATION
WITH DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND
WILDLIFE, WHICH IS GREAT. BUT
THERE ALSO HAD BEEN MENTIONED OF
THE WATER BOARD AND REGIONAL
TRANSPORTATIONS AND
TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS AND
REVIEW OF PLANS. AND WHAT DO YOU
SAY ABOUT THOSE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS THAT THE OPPOSITION
SEEMS TO BE? UM YOU KNOW? WELL I
DISCUSSING AS WELL. I THINK THAT
THE. BILL HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY
NARROWED. AT HIS AS IT IS
CURRENTLY WRITTEN, AND I THINK
THAT GIVEN. THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT THE BILL PRESENTLY HAS THAT
I JUST DON'T SEE THE CONCERNED
THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS
GOING TO BUILD A BUNCH OF NEW
ROADS FOR DEVELOPMENT OR THAT
IT'S GOING TO ANOTHER WORDS.
THERE ARE EXCLUSIONS WITH
RESPECT TO, UM IMPORTANT
VEGETATION AND IMPORTANT AREAS.
WITH RESPECT TO PERHAPS. TRIBAL
SENSITIVITIES AND ALSO THAT THE
SCALING IS SCALED APPROPRIATELY
SO THAT IT IS NOT ESSENTIALLY A
GROWTH INDUCER. THE CONCERN I
HAVE ABOUT LAYING ON ADDITIONAL,
UM. OVERSIGHT WITH THE ABILITY
TO, UH DENY I THINK, UH, DEFEAT
FRANKLY, THE PURPOSE OF THE
BILL. BIG AND THAT IT IS AN
UNNECESSARY ALARM, GIVEN HOW THE
COMMITTEE HAS NARROWED THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN
AND MY PREFERENCE MEMBERS IS
THAT IT WOULD BE PASSED AS IT IS
WRITTEN. WELL, THANK YOU. I JUST
WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION TO
ADDRESS YOU KNOW WHAT THE
OPPOSITION HAD BROUGHT FORWARD
AND OF COURSE, I WANT TO BE ABLE
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL, BUT I ALSO
LOOK FORWARD TO JUST THE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS ON ON WHERE THIS
LEADS MOVING FORWARD. I GUESS
WE'VE HEARD THE OPPOSITION.
ADMITS THAT THEY'VE BEEN LATE TO
GIVE COMMENTS ARE THE COMMITTEE
AND TO YOU SO THERE'S STILL SOME
CONCERNS. THEY DID THE SO WE
HAVE SOME GUARDRAILS IN WITH THE
BOARD OF FORESTRY AND, UH, AND
FIRE PREVENTION THAT THEY'RE
THEY'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE, UH,
SCOPE OF THIS OF THE USE OF
THESE THESE ROADS, AND NOW
YOU'VE BROUGHT IN THE FISH AND
WILDLIFE SERVICE. SO EVERYBODY'S
IF THERE IS A ROAD THAT'S BEEN
IDENTIFIED. IF IT DOES IMPACT OF
RIPARIAN AREA, IT'S OUT. IT
DOESN'T GET USED. AND IF IMPACTS
A UH, UM, ENDANGERED SPECIES.
IT'S OUT. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE
SOME SAFEGUARDS. IT IS AN
EXEMPTION SEQUENCE OF THERE WERE
EVERYBODY IS CLEAR. UM, WHAT IT
IS THE GENERAL CONCERN THAT THEY
HAVE ABOUT, UM THESE OTHER
IMPACTS ANALYSIS THAT THAT WOULD
HAVE ON THE ON THE ROUTES. IS
THERE ANYTHING IN THE BILL THAT
WOULD PROHIBIT THE LOCAL
JURISDICTION FROM DOING THAT
ANALYSIS? RIGHT I MEAN, WE'RE
ARE THERE THINGS THAT IF THEY IF
A LOCAL COUNTY DECIDES THAT THEY
WANT TO DO A MORE IN DEPTH
ANALYSIS. IS THERE SOMETHING IN
THIS BILL THAT PROHIBITS THEM
FROM DOING THAT? NO. LOCAL
AGENCY WOULD BE A COUNTY. UH I
THINK THESE ARE MOST OFTEN GOING
TO BE COUNTIES WOULD BE WELCOME
TO DO ANY OTHER ANALYSIS OR
MITIGATION THAT THEY SO CHOOSE.
IN IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THAT
THERE'S NO INCENTIVE NOW BECAUSE
BEFORE IF THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH
A SEQUEL PROCESS, AND THEY
WANTED TO PROTECT THEIR PUBLIC,
THERE'S AN INCENTIVE THERE'S NOT
AN INCENTIVE. BECAUSE THEY WOULD
BE LIMITED WITH THE BORDER
FORESTRY AND, UH FISH AND
WILDLIFE SERVICE. TO THE EXTENT
THAT THAT'S NOT AN INCENTIVE. I
MEAN, YOU STILL WANT TO PROTECT
YOUR PUBLIC, RIGHT? I MEAN,
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO ASK FOR THIS
RIGHT? THERE'S GOT TO BE A
REQUEST FOR YOU. THIS IS
BASICALLY AN EXEMPTION WITHIN
CERTAIN CONSTRAINTS THAT'S
AVAILABLE IF THE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS CHOOSE TO USE IT.
IN. NOT EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR
WITH EMERGENCY ROADS IN RURAL
AREAS AND WHAT TYPE OF SHAPE
THEY MAY BE IN BECAUSE SOME OF
THEM ARE ROADS THAT HAVE NOT
BEEN USED FOR A WHILE. SO IS THE
ANTICIPATION THAT THAT THESE ARE
GOING RATHER THAN YOU KNOW. GET
PAVED WITH STREET LIGHTS ON SIDE
. THERE'S AN IMPROVEMENT THAT'S
EXPECTED. SOMETIMES THIS IS JUST
DEGRADING. SOMETIMES IT'S MAYBE
GRAVEL. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT.
EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY, RIGHT.
SO THE CONCERN HERE AT LEAST THE
GOAL HERE IS IN THESE
EMERGENCIES. WE WANT TO GET
PEOPLE OUT OR GET EQUIPMENT IN
AND SOME OF THESE AREAS MAY HAVE. DETERIORATED OR SOME OF THESE
ROADS MAYBE DETERIORATED THAT
THERE THERE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE
USEFUL FOR THE FIRE RESPONSE. I
MEAN, SOME VEHICLES. IS THAT
YOUR UNDERSTANDING?
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I REPRESENT A
HUGE SWATH OF THE SIERRA NEVADA
, UH, AND THE CREEK FIRE. AS A
EXAMPLE. AND YOU NOTICED THAT?
MS CHASTAIN TESTIFIED. WITH
RESPECT TO THESE BUT TODAY'S
ROADS I I'VE BEEN ON SCENE. AND
SEEING THE, UM THE ROADS THAT HE
WAS MENTIONING. UH AND THEY ARE
ESSENTIALLY DIRT ROAD THERE OUT
IN THE COUNTRYSIDE. THEY HAVE
EXISTED FOR PERIODS OF TIME. AH
AND THE SOME OF THESE ROADS
ACTUALLY WERE USED. FOR THE CAL
FIRE AND THE LOCAL VOLUNTEER
FIRE DEPARTMENT. IN ORDER TO GET
INTO AREAS WHERE THEY KNEW THAT
THEY COULD UTILIZE THIS AS NOT
JUST AN EXIT, BUT THE POTENTIAL
FOR A FIREBREAK. AND I HAVE
STOOD ON A ON A ROAD YET IT'S
GRADED AND IT'S DIRT, BUT IT CAN
BE USED FOR EGRESS. BUT IT ALSO
WAS USED AS A VERY IMPORTANT
FIREBREAK. AND WHEN YOU BETWEEN
CROWN FIRE. THAT WAS ROARING
DOWN TOWARDS 300 HOMES. AND THEN
THE ACROSS THE ROAD. WAS A
MANAGED FOREST. AND YOU CAN SEE
THE EVIDENCE THAT CROWN FIRE
DROPPED TO THE GROUND BURNED
ALONG THE GROUND AND WAS
EVENTUALLY CONTAINED WITH NO
LOSS OF LIFE OR NO LOSS OF
PROPERTY. SO THERE ARE DUAL
USAGES OF THESE KINDS. I DON'T
THINK THERE IS ANY INTENTION
HERE TO BASICALLY PUT, UH, PAVED
STREETS WITH. YOU KNOW, CURBS
AND GUTTERS AND LIGHTS. I DON'T
THINK ANYBODY IS PROPOSING IT OR
WOULD EVEN CONSIDER IT. IT IS IT
IS SIZED AND SCALED TO THE
LOCALE IT HAD YOU HAVE
GUIDELINES IN THERE WITH RESPECT
TO WHAT IT CAN AND CANNOT
IMPACT. AND I THINK THOSE ARE
SUFFICIENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE
ELECTED COUNTY OVERSIGHT THAT
LOCAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS WOULD HAVE INPUT
WITH REGARD TO WHETHER THEY EVEN
APPROVE IT OR WANT TO UTILIZE IT
THAT I BELIEVE. IS, I THINK
THAT'S SUFFICIENT. MITIGATION
AND OVERSIGHT. UH, THAT I THINK
THOSE IN OPPOSITION SHOULD
RECOGNIZE AS SUFFICIENT. SENATOR
BATES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO
PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST EVENT
AND WE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
OF APPROPRIATIONS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. SOME REMEMBER, YOU
MAKE CLOTHES. APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION. THE URGENCY I
THINK IS CLEAR AND THE NECESSITY
HERE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE
IDENTIFICATION OF THESE HIGH
HIGH RISK AREAS, THAT WILL BE
THE ONES THAT WOULD BE OKAY,
UTILIZING WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING
HERE. THOSE WOULD TEND TO BE
SMALLER COMMUNITIES IN RURAL
AREAS AND IN THE INTERFACE
BETWEEN BETWEEN FOREST AND
RESIDENTIAL AND SO WITH THE
AMENDMENTS AND THE DISCUSSION
HERE, UH, APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED WOULD ASK
FOR YOUR SUPPORT. MR. COLE KEMP,
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A B 11
54. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A B 11 54
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PATTERSON.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND AND REREFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS WIECKOWSKI.
THANKS. KELLY. GONZALES.
SKINNER. STERN. THERE'S FOUR
VOTES WILL KEEP THAT THE ROLE
OPEN. PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR
YOUR TIME. HAVE LOVELY REST OF
THE DAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR
NEXT ITEM. REMEMBER EIGHT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RUBIO. NO THERE
IS EMOTION. SENATOR DOLLY TO
MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR BEFORE
MOVING ON. THIS IS CONSENT
CALENDAR. THESE ARE ITEMS 1349
AND 11. THIS COAL CAMP, WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES I'M
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1349 11.
THE MOTION IS DOPASS AND BE
ORDERED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR
WIECKOWSKI. KOWSKI? AYE, BATES.
DELI. QUINT GONZALES. SKINNER.
STERN. YOU HAVE. FOUR VOTES.
LET'S KEEP THE ROLE OPEN NOW.
TURNING THIS IS ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT A. B 21 63, WHICH WOULD
EXTEND THE, UH SAN GABRIEL BASIN
WATER QUALITY AUTHORITY TO JULY
1 2050. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
SENATORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT A B 21 63, WHICH EXTENDS
THE REPEAL DATE FOR THE SAN
GABRIEL VALLEY BASED ON WATER.
AH EQUALITY AUTHORITY, OR W Q A
TO JULY OF 2050. THE COMPLEX
WATERSHED OF THE SAN COBRA
VALLEY MOUNTAINS PROVIDES WATER
FOR NEARLY A MILLION RESIDENTS
OF THE VALLEY AND THEY'RE ALL IN
MY DISTRICT. UNFORTUNATELY THE
WATER QUALITY OF THE BASIN IS
COMPLICATED BY DECADES OF POOR
ENVIRONMENTAL OVERSIGHT DURING
THE 20TH CENTURY. ORGANIC
COMPOUNDS TO PEE PEE FAS AND
NUMEROUS OTHER VOLATILE
CONTAMINATIONS PLAYED THE
GROUNDWATER, DEEMING THE BASING
AS ONE OF THE LARGEST SUPERFUND
SITES IN THE COUNTRY. THE TEST
OF ORGANIZING AND PROVIDING
FUNDING TO REMEDY THE CLEAN UP
THE BASIN WAS DELEGATED TO THE
SAME TO THE W Q. A ESTABLISHED
BY A B 21 73 IN 1992. THE WATER
QUALITY AUTHORITY HAS OVERSEEN
NEARLY HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN
REMEDIATION EFFORTS, ACCOUNTING
FOR NEARLY 50% OF THE TOTAL
CONTAMINANTS REMOVED FROM THE
BASIN SINCE 1979 UNFORTUNATELY
AT THIS COMMITTEE, UH AS THIS
COMMITTEE IS ALL TOO FAMILIAR
WITH THE EFFORTS TO RE MEDIATE
GROUNDWATER POLLUTION ARE LONG
TERM AND COMPLICATED BY NEW
EMERGING CONTAMINATIONS. AS SUCH
, THE W Q IS MISSION HAS BEEN
EXTENDED SEVERAL TIMES, MOST
RECENTLY IN 2013. IN ORDER TO
CONTINUE LONG TERM PLANNING AND
CONTRACTING TO MEET WATER
QUALITY GOALS. MAYBE 21 63
EXTENDS THE REPEAL DATE OF THE W
QA TO JULY OF 2050. THE WORK
DONE BY THE W K IS INVALUABLE TO
MY DISTRICT AND THE SAN GABRIEL
VALLEY BASIN. WATER QUALITY AT
30 HAS SET THE STANDARDS FOR
EFFORTS IN THIS SPACE HERE TODAY
WITH ME IS RANDY SHOULDER MAN
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SAN
GABRIEL, UH, BASED IN WATER
QUALITY AUTHORITY AND REALLY
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT. UM I WANTED TO ADD THAT
I WAS A WATER BOARD MEMBER IN
THAT AREA, AND THIS ISSUE HAS
CONTINUE TO PLAGUE OUR DISTRICT
, AND NOT ONLY DOES IT RE
MEDIATE THE WATER FOR THE
CENTRAL BASIN, BUT WE PREVENT
THE CONTAMINANTS TO GO INTO THE
L A BASIN. SO WE HELPED THIS
ANGLE VALLEY AS WELL AS THE L E
BASIN. SO THANK OU, MR SCHULER.
MANURE RECOGNIZED. PLEASE
PROCEED. I'M SORRY. HE'S ON THE
HE'S ON THE PHONE. SORRY ABOUT
THAT. GO AHEAD, MR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. YEAH RANDY
SHOULDER IN THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SAME APRIL BASIN
WATER QUALITY AUTHORITY. THE
AUTHORITIES ESTABLISHED IN 1992
TO FILL A NEED. THE VALLEY,
WHICH WAS A DEDICATED LOCAL
AGENCY TO MANAGE AND CLEAN UP
THE SANDWICH IS THAT GABRIEL
GROUNDWATER BASIN, WHICH
PROVIDES 90% OF DRINKING WATER
TO OVER 1.4 MILLION RESIDENT
SEVEN MEMBER BOARD IS MADE UP OF
WATER PURVEYORS, CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS, MUNICIPAL WATER
DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS. OUR
AGENCY ALSO PARTNERS. WITH THE
U. S. EPA THE LOS ANGELES
REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTOL
BOARD ALONG WITH THIS STATE
WATER BOARD AND THE DEPARTMENT
THAT ACCEPTS TROLL. WE'VE
COLLABORATED WITH THESE AGENCIES
TO INVESTIGATE SCIENCE PLANNING.
CONSTRUCT TREATMENT FACILITIES.
THREE MEDIATES THE BASIN. AND
PROVIDE VALUABLE WATER SUPPLY. I
WORK ALSO INCLUDES ENGAGING WITH
RESPONSIBLE PARTIES. IT HAS LED
TO SUBSTANTIAL SETTLEMENTS AND
LONG TERM FUNDING AGREEMENTS FOR
THE CLEANUP. FURTHER OFFSET THE
COST OF CLEANUP. THE WATER
QUALITY AUTHORITY PROVIDES
FUNDING FOR PROJECTS BY
ACCESSING BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL
FUNDING GRANT AUTHORITIES ALSO
HAS A FEDERAL AUTHORIZATION FOR
THE CALL THE STAND, GABRIEL
BASED AND RESTORATION FUND.
CURRENTLY SOLD $125 MILLION. THE
ESTABLISHED A GOOD REPUTATION
WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND PROVIDES
OUTREACH. INFORM THE COMMUNITY
ABOUT OUR WORK. WE'VE BEEN
EXTENDED SEVERAL TIMES
PREVIOUSLY DUE TO THE VALUE AND
SERVICE WE BRING TO THE
STAKEHOLDERS AND THE COMMUNITY.
OUR MANAGEMENT OF THE CLEANUP
INVOLVED LONG TERM. PROJECT
AGREEMENT. HAVE THE NEED TO
ADDRESS FUTURE EMERGING
CONTAMINANTS. THEREFORE WE ARE
REQUESTING THE EXTENSION OF OUR
REPEAL DATE. JULY 1ST 2050 TO
CONTINUE OUR IMPORTANT WORK. WE
APPRECIATE YOUR AIBOS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE
IN ROOM 1200. TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 21 63, THEN
MODERATOR, SEEING NONE HERE,
LET'S GO TO THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SENATE AND SEE
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO TESTIFY,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO. AND
WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER 20. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. MR APPEARANCE.
SENATORS ANTHONY MOLINA ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. IT'LL BE ONE
MOMENT FOR HER NEXT COMMENT.
AND WE HAVE LINED 21.21 YEAR
LINES OPEN. PRIVATE IS CRISPY
BOY WITH THREE VALUES MUNICIPAL
WATER DISTRICT, ALSO IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU NEXT. AND THERE ARE NO
FURTHER COMMENTS FOR SUPPORT.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S TURN TO
OPPOSITION MEMBERS. HERE IN ROOM
. I HAVE NO FORMAL OPPOSITION TO
THIS MATTER. MEMBERS HERE. OF
THE PUBLIC AND ROOM 1200 SEEING
NONE. MODERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
PROMPT ANYONE WHO ON THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, I WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION OF
A B 21 63. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF A B 21
63, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. THERE IS NO OPPOSITION
QUÊ. MR CHAIR CONFIRMS MY
UNDERSTANDING OF THIS MEASURE IS
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A
MOTION IN QUESTIONS, SENATOR
DOLLY YOU MAY ASK. QUESTIONS I
WILL. WHAT HOW DID YOU COME UP
WITH A DATE? 2050 I MEAN, THAT'S
28 YEARS FROM NOW IT'S A LONG
IT'S A LONG TIME. AND I KNOW
THAT I READ THE IT'S BEEN SIX
TIMES IT'S BEEN EXTENDED, AND SO
JUST SO THE DATES ARE BASICALLY
, UM WHAT WE CAN WE'RE
NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS WITH
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO
CONTINUE THE WORK UNTIL 2050
GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY. THE 28
YEARS. UH TO FINISH SOME OF THE
WORK THAT IS ENDING AFTER THE
DEADLINE, BUT WE'RE ENTERING
INTO NEW CONTRACTS UNTIL 2050.
SO IT'S A LOOK. IT'S A OBVIOUSLY
A REALLY COMPLICATED ISSUE, AND
AS WE CONTINUE, WE KEEP FINDING
ADDITIONAL CONTAMINANTS IN THE
WATER. AND SO THE W. K FINDS
RESOLUTIONS BUT THEN BY THE TIME
THEY START WORKING ON
REMEDIATION, I'LL GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE. EARLY ON. WHEN I WAS ON
THE WATER BOARD, WE HAD TO BUILD
A WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, TREATMENT
PLANT TO DO THAT. AND THAT TAKES
AS YOU KNOW, AS A FARMER, YOU
KNOW THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME.
BUT THAT ENTERING INTO
CONTRACTS, THE FOLKS WANT LONG
TERM CONTRACTS, BUT THEN WE KEEP
FINDING MORE CONTAMINANTS. SO WE
HAVE TO KEEP ENTERING TO NEW
CONTACT CONTRACT SO 2050 GIVES
US A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH
THE CONTRACTS THAT WE ARE IN
PLACE. NOW. THAT WOULD, UH WHAT
EXPIRE BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT
EXPIRATION DATE, BUT IT GIVES US
AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER INTO NEW
LONG TERM CONTRACTS WITH SOME OF
THE CLEANUP WORK THAT WE'RE
DOING THE BILL. THANK YOU SEE NO
OTHER HANDS UP SOMETHING FOR YOU
MAKE CLOTHES. THANK YOU. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
IT'S CALLED CAMP. WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT. A B 61 SORRY 21 63
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RUBIO. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST WE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI, AYE BATES CORTESI.
DELI. SALLY I. GONZALEZ GONZALEZ
I SKINNER STERN. YEAH.
SUFFICIENT. VOTES TO GET THE
MEASURE OUT. WE WILL FOR NOTHING
WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR THE
MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT HERE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S MOVE TO
ITEM NUMBER 10, THIS IS A B 27
21 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY,
WHICH IS THE BAY AREA AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
DISTRICT BOARD COMPENSATION
LITTLE KNOWN FACT. THE POOR CAN
ONLY RECEIVE COMPENSATION FOR
ONE MEETING A DAY. AND AS YOU AS
WE ALL KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE
TO TRAVEL LONG DISTANCE TO GET
TO THE BOARD LOCATION. SO SOME
OF THEM REALLY WELCOME. WELL,
THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY BILL
FOR ME. NO SORRY. I APPRECIATE
THAT. WE DO THAT. WHEN WE'RE
HERE REPRESENTS ME. WELL IN THE
SENATE, HE IS MY PERSONAL
SENATOR AS WELL. SO THANK YOU.
CHAIR MEMBERS. A B 27 21 WILL
ALLOW THE BAY AREA. BAY AREA,
AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT
BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS,
SCHEDULED TO BECOME MORE
EFFICIENT AND AUTHORIZED THE
BOARD TO START AN ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
CURRENTLY AS A SENATOR, SAID
BOARD MEMBERS CAN ONLY BE
REIMBURSED UP TO $100 PER DAY
FOR ATTENDING ONE OR MULTIPLE
MEETINGS. UNDER EXISTING LAW
BOARD MEMBERS CAN ONLY BE
REIMBURSED OR TRAVELING. TWO
MEETINGS BY CAR RIDE, SHARE OR
PUBLIC TRANSIT, BUT NOT BY
WALKING OR BIKING. THE BILL
ALLOWS THE BOARD TO CREATE AN
ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM
THAT COMPENSATES MEMBERS FOR
BACKING, BIKING OR WALKING TO
MEETINGS, WHICH IS IN LINE.
CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS ARE SORRY,
WHICH IS IN LINE WITH
CALIFORNIA'S EMISSION REDUCTION
GOALS. MAYBE 27 21 WILL ALSO
CHANGE CONVERSATION FOR BACK MED
BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDING MEETINGS
FROM $100 A DAY 200 PER MEETING
WITHOUT CHANGING THE YEARLY
COMPENSATION LIMIT. PARTICULARLY
ASKED HER. I VOTE WITH ME TODAY
IN THE ROOM. I'L HAVE ALAN ABS
LEGISLATIVE OFFICER WITH BLACK
MEN AND JOHN BOATERS WHO IS THE
MAYOR OF EMERYVILLE AND ALSO
BOARD MEMBER ON THE PHONE. MR
ABBOTT'S GOOD MORNING. PLEASE
PROCEED. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
WIECKOWSKI AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M ALAN ABSOLUTE
LEGISLATIVE OFFICER FOR THE BAY
AREA. AQMD SPONSOR OF HB 27 21
IN THE LOCAL AIR QUALITY
REGULATOR FOR THE NINE COUNTIES
SURROUNDING THE BAY AREA. THE
BOARD IS COMPRISED OF 24 ELECTED
OFFICIALS ABOUT EQUALLY SPLIT
BETWEEN COUNTY SUPERVISORS AND
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE MAYORS.
AH AND THOSE 24 ELECTED
OFFICIALS ALSO SIT ON EIGHT
DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AT THE AIR
DISTRICT, AS WELL AS
REPRESENTING THE DISTRICT AT
OTHER AGENCIES AND PUBLIC
MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE BAY
AREA. SINCE THE SECTION OF THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE WAS
AMENDED IN 1986 THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD
AND PUBLIC INTEREST IN
PARTICIPATION IN AIR QUALITY
POLICY HAS SKYROCKETED. A B 27
21 ACKNOWLEDGES THIS BY
INCREASING THE TOTAL DAILY
MEETING COMPANIES COMPENSATION
BY $100 PER DAY FROM LOCAL
REVENUES TO ENCOURAGE HOLDING
MULTIPLE COMMITTEE MEETINGS PER
DAY, WHICH ALSO ALLOWS FOR MORE
ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
A B 27 21 ALSO ALLOWS THE BOARD
TO CREATE A COMPENSATION POLICY
ENCOURAGING ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION, SUCH AS WALKING
AND BICYCLING WHEN REPRESENTING
THE DISTRICT. THIS AMENDMENT
pREQUIREMENTS FOR EMPLOYER
COMMUTE BENEFIT PROGRAMS IN THE
BAY AREA UNDER EXISTING LAW FROM
SENATOR GLASER. TO FURTHER
DISCUSS THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION
COMPONENT. WE ALSO HAVE OUR
BOARD CHAIRPERSON AND MAYOR OF
EMERYVILLE, JOHN ABOUT OTHERS,
AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE. THANK
YOU AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I VOTE. MISS MAYOR. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR LIKE HAS BEEN.
SORRY GO AHEAD AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMPETE. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
SIR. MY NAME IS BATTERS AND THE
MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EMERYVILLE
AND THE CHAIR OF THE BAY AREA
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WAS
OUTLINED BY UM ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
EARLY AND MR ABBOTT. THE BOARD
HAS GOT AN INCREASE IN PROBLEM
PARTICIPATION. WE'RE TRYING TO
CONSOLIDATE MEETINGS TO, UM
SINGLE DAYS DURING THE MONTH TO
ALLOW THE PUBLIC MORE EQUITABLE
ACCESS. UM, IN MEETING THOSE
CONSIDERATIONS. THE $100 DAY FOR
DM POSES A CHALLENGE FOR MANY
CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO
SIT ON THE BOARD DO NOT RECEIVE
SALARIES OR STIPENDS,
PARTICIPATION AND FOR WHOM A
PAINTING, CHILDCARE OR OTHER
LEAVE FROM WORK. WOULD BE MORE
COMMENSURATE TO THEIR EQUITABLE
PARTICIPATION. WE'RE NOT LOOKING
TO LIFT OR CHANGE THE TOTAL COP
ISSUE LIMITED BOARD AMERICAN
RECEIVED DURING THE YEAR. SO
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BOTH
BY THE MORE EQUITABLE WAY FOR
PUBLIC AND SMALL CITY
PARTICIPATION IN COMMUNITIES
IMPACTED BY THE AIR QUALITY
ISSUES. WHILE ALSO BEING
FISCALLY PRUDENT, AND AS IT
RELATES TO THE ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION POLICY. WE'RE
LOOKING TO BUILD OFF OF PRIOR
GOOD WORK DONE, AND THEN FURTHER
OF THE STATE'S CLIMATE ACTION
GOALS WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP.
THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION
INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT CAN BE
MODELED BY OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES
ACROSS THE BARRIER, AS WELL AS
PRIVATE PARTNERS TO ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF SINGLE
OCCUPANCY VEHICLES AND USE
ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. THAT
MEANS THAT COMMUTE WITH THAT I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT
AND YOUR VOTE. ARE THERE MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC HERE IN ROOM 1200?
WE'D LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF A B 27 21. PLEASE COME
FORWARD SEEING NON MODERATOR,
PLEASE PROMPT MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC ON THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE IN SUPPORT OF A B 21 27 21.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF MAYBE 27 21. PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. AND THERE
ARE NO COMMENTS IN THE QUEUE. MR
CHAIR. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO
FORMAL OPPOSITION OF THE MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC HERE IN ROOM 1200
IN OPPOSITION OF A B, UH 27 21
LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.
SEEING THE INTEL MODERATOR, CAN
YOU PLEASE PROMPT THE OPPOSITION
TO A B 21 27 27 21, LOOK AT IT.
AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF A B 27 21. PRESS
10 AT THIS TIME. AND THERE ARE
NO COMMENTS IN THE CUBE. MR.
CHAIR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
RECOGNIZE SENATOR DOLLY, YOU
HAVE A QUESTION? YES SO I READ
READING THAT MANY OF THESE FOLKS
ARE ALREADY COUNTY SUPERVISORS
OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE
THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT
ARE THAT ARE NON ELECTED FOLKS
ON THESE BOARDS. I'LL LET ALAN
SO. SO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
FOR THE UMD IS GOVERNED BY THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE RIGHT NOW
ONLY APPOINTED. THE ONLY
APPOINTED OFFICIALS ON THE BOARD
OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THEY'RE
BEING COMPENSATED FOR EITHER THE
COUNTY OR THE CITY THAT THEY
COME FROM. UM AS AS, UH, OUR
CHAIR. UM MR BOUTERSE STATED,
MANY OF OUR APPOINTEES DON'T
RECEIVE A SALARY OR STIPENDS FOR
FROM THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT. BUT
BUT. I WAS A COUNTY SUPERVISOR
AND I ATTENDED ALL KINDS OF
MEETINGS. I WAS COMPENSATED BY
MY COUNTY TO ATTEND THOSE
MEETINGS. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THIS
WILL. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO
THEIR I UNDERSTAND FOR THE
PUBLIC IF THERE WAS, IF THERE IS
A PUBLIC MEMBER WHO'S ON THE
BOARD APPOINTED TO THE BOARD
THAT THEY WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY
TO BE COMPENSATED. BUT THE
CITIES AND COUNTIES ALREADY
COMPENSATING THE MEMBERS THAT
ATTEND THESE MEETINGS, CORRECT.
UM THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO
THE NAME YEAH, MAYOR BUTTER. GO
AHEAD. YES SO, UM, I CAN'T SPEAK
FOR EVERY COUNTY BUT CITIES,
INCLUDING MY CITY DO NOT
COMPENSATED PRETENDING THIS
MEETING. OKAY I WILL SUPPORT.
THAT'S THE CASE. I WANT TO. I
DON'T WANT TO DOUBLE COMPENSATE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LOOK
PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC. I
UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO GET
PEOPLE EVEN GET ON THE BOARD.
AND THEN IF YOU DON'T PAY THEIR
WAY THERE OR DON'T TAKE CARE OF
HIM. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GONNA
DO IT. THEY'RE TAKING THEIR
LOSING TIME FROM THEIR JOB AT
THE SAME TIME AS WELL. SO I
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY STILL WANT
TO BE DOUBLE COMPENSATING SOME
YEAH, I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB. MY
CITY DOES NOT COMPENSATE ME FOR
MY PARTICIPATION ON THIS BOARD,
AND I SIT ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES
AND MY ABILITY TO CONSOLIDATE
COMMITTEES TO SINGLE DAY FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC IS LIMITED
BECAUSE I CAN'T GET EQUITABLE
REPRESENTATION FROM SMALLER
COMMUNITIES AND CITIES THAT ARE
IMPACTED BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY
RECEIVE $100 FOR POTENTIALLY A
WHOLE DAY'S WORTH OF MEETINGS.
THANK YOU. THERE'S A MOTION BY
SENATOR GONZALEZ SOME MEMBER
LEE, YOU MAKE CLOTHES. I
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, SENATOR
DOLLY AND YES, IN THE BAY AREA,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE
CITIES, LARGE COUNTIES, AND
THEY'RE VERY, VERY SMALL CITIES
AND COUNTIES CITIES THAT ARE ALL
CLOSING TOGETHER, BUT I THINK
THIS IS A GREAT BILL TO
INCENTIVIZE, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE
TRYING TO REDUCE OUR CARBON
EMISSIONS TO REALLY MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE FEEL THERE'S PARITY
AND EQUITY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW,
OBVIOUSLY WE COMPENSATE BEFORE
DRIVING COMPOSITE BEFORE TRANSIT
, BUT OF COURSE, THERE IS ACTUAL
COSTS TO WALKING OR BIKING.
THERE'S MAINTENANCE OF THE BIKE.
THERE'S UTILITY COSTS OR, YOU
KNOW, UTILITY COSTS OF WHEN YOU
TAKE TIME TO BIKE OR WALK, BUT
THESE THINGS ARE POSITIVE
THROUGH ENVIRONMENT. AND
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE SERVING ON
THE AIR QUALITY DISTRICT, YOU
WANT TO BE REDUCING THESE CAR
EMISSIONS, SO I THINK IT'S A
SMALL FIX TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE LESS EMISSIONS OUT THERE
AND BAY AREA SO RESPECTFULLY ASK
DR Ó. MISS HAWKINS, WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES ITEM
NUMBER 10. MAYBE 27 21 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE.
WIECKOWSKI I E I BATES CORTESI.
DELI. DOLLY I. GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ, I SKINNER STERN. SOME
REALLY HAVE THREE VOTES WILL
KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR THOSE
MEMBERS. HERE. THERE WE WILL NOW
TURN TO ITEM NUMBER. AH FIVE A B
10 67 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING,
WHO WILL EXPLAIN TO US THE
OPTION A AND OPTION B UNDER THE
BOTTLE BILL AND FOR THE MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE PARTICIPATION TOLL FREE
NUMBER IS 84429163 AND OUR
ACCESS CODE IS 141114. OR 10
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR. A B 10
67 WOULD REQUIRE CAL RECYCLE. TO
CONDUCT A STUDY THAT REVIEWS THE
IN LIEU FEE AND CONSIDER WHETHER
THE FLAT FEE OF $100 PER DAY
SHOULD BE A JUSTICE BASED ON THE
AMOUNT OF BEVERAGE CONTAINERS
SOLD BY THE RETAILER. THE STUDY
WOULD INFORM OUR FUTURE
APPROACHES TO REFORMING AN
OUTDATED PROGRAM AND ENSURE THE
STATE CAN PROVIDE CONSUMERS
EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE
IN RECYCLING EFFORTS, BUT THAT
WE HAVE OUR FIRST WITNESS ON THE
PHONE, MR MARK MURRAY. MR
MURRAY, YOU RECOGNIZE GOOD
MORNING. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN
, UM AND MARK MURRAY WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST WASTE WERE IN SUPPORT OF
THE MEASURE. THIS IS AN
APPROPRIATE FOLLOW UP TO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S KINGS. A B 54,
WHICH LOOKED AT CONVENIENT ZONE
RECYCLING CENTERS, AND WE'D
APPRECIATE COMMITTEE SUPPORT.
VERY GOOD. I HAVE ARE THERE
STARTS TO TURN TO SUPPORT ARE
THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE
IN ROOM 1200 SUPPORT OF A B, UM
10 67 SEEING NONE. MODERATOR,
CAN YOU PROMPT ANY MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 10 67. IF YOU'D
LIKE TO SUPPORT A B AND 67
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AND THERE ARE NO COMMENTS. MR
CHAIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,
LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. I SHOW
NO FORMAL OPPOSITION MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC, KIERAN OPPOSITION
OF, UH UH, GETTING A REPORT ON
IN LIEU FEES FOR THERE ARE
BEVERAGE RECYCLING RECYCLING
PILL. SEEING NONE. MODERATOR ARE
THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
ON THE PHONE LINES SINCE
OPPOSITION OF A B 10 67. AND IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF A B 10 67. PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. AND THERE
ARE NO COMMENTS IN THE QUEUE, MR
CHAIR, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE AND
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
I WILL NOTE THAT THAT 2019 YOU
KNOW ME A REPORT. INDICATES THAT
PASCAL RECYCLE ENFORCEMENT MAY
BE LACKING AND THERE MAYBE
THEY'RE NOT REALLY COLLECTING AS
MUCH UNDER THE OPTION B MONIES
AS WE ANTICIPATED. UM AND THIS
IS A CALLED ACTION. ON THAT
SENATOR DALI RECOGNIZED GOOD TO
SEE YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR SO
I'M REALLY CONFLICTED ON YOUR
BILL BECAUSE REPRESENTING RURAL
AREAS WE DON'T WE'VE BEEN FACED
WITH. NO PLACE TO RECYCLE NUMBER
ONE. AND THEN THIS IS A SUBJECT
WE'VE OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DEALT
WITH TOO. UM AND THEN THEN THE
REQUIREMENT FALLS ONTO THE
RETAILER OR THE STORE WHO'S
REALLY NOT EQUIPPED TO DO
RECYCLING. SO IN MANY CASES,
THEY PAY THE FINE BECAUSE THEY
HAVE REALLY NO SYSTEM IN PLACE.
T DEAL WITH RECYCLING, AND SO
THEY'RE REALLY NOT RECYCLING
CENTERS. THEY'RE EXPECTED THEY
IN THE PAST, THEY HAD A PLACE
WHERE PEOPLE COULD RECYCLE. AND
SO BY THESE CLOSING DOWN, IT'S
CAUSED THE RETAILER TO BE IN A
CATCH 22 WHERE THERE'S NO PLACE
TO GO, BUT AS RE OBLIGATED TO
BRING BACK THE OR TO BE A
RECYCLING CENTER. SO I MEAN, THE
TENT OF THIS BILL IS TO STUDY.
THAT IS WHAT I'M HEARING. YOU
SAY THAT'S RIGHT. UM AND I THINK
TO TAKE THOSE ISSUES INTO
ACCOUNT. I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW,
SENATOR ATKINS HAS GOT A BILL
FINALLY DOING SOME LARGER REFORM
. MAYBE THIS WOULD BE INCLUDING
THE LARGER FORM. MAYBE THIS
WOULDN'T KNOW PART OF THE
REASON. WE HAVEN'T TACKLED THE
THIS PARTICULAR FEE IS, YOU KNOW
WE'VE BEEN KIND OF NIBBLING AT
THE EDGES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE
54, WHICH THE SENATOR MENTIONED,
WHICH IS AROUND. MOBILE
RECYCLING, SO I THINK WE'VE BEEN
TRYING TO GET AT THAT ISSUE. BUT
AS AS YOU KNOW, WE NEED KIND OF
WHOLESALE REFORM TO KIND OF FIX
THIS, ESPECIALLY FOR RURAL
AREAS. I THINK RURAL AREAS LIKE
I THINK YOU IDENTIFIED IT
CORRECTLY. HAVE SOME VERY VERY,
VERY TOUGH CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF
LACK OF RECYCLING
INFRASTRUCTURE, PLUS LACK OF
OPPORTUNITIES. SO, UM, YOU KNOW,
AND AGAIN. THIS IS JUST THIS IS
JUST A STUDY OF THE ISSUE IS NOT
TELLING THEM. SORT OF QUITE WHAT
TO DO ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY
TO IF THERE'S THINGS YOU WOULD
LIKE. ADDED TO THE STUDY. WE'RE
ALWAYS HAPPY TO KIND OF FURTHER
CLARIFIED TO MAKE SURE THAT
RURAL ISSUES ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND
RESEARCHED EVEN FURTHER. SO JUST
ONE QUICK. I'M GONNA LAY OFF
YOUR BILL AND DIG INTO THIS IS
THERE IT'S A LARGER FROM TO ME.
IT'S A LARGER ISSUE. THERE'S
MANY BILLS GOING THROUGH, BUT I
DO. BUT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU
THAT. YOU KNOW? IS THERE
ANYTHING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT
WOULD LOOK AT? UM. WHETHER THERE
IS A RECYCLING CENTER CLOSE BY
OR NOT, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY
THE DETERMINATION. NO MATTER IF
YOU'RE IN A RURAL AREA OR A
SUBURBAN AREA, THERE'S MANY
SUBURBAN AREAS THAT ARE ISLANDS,
I WOULD SAY AS WELL. SO RIGHT
NOW, RIGHT? THE THEY'RE LIKE THE
DEFINITION IS IF YOU ARE WITHIN
A CERTAIN YOU KNOW, RADIUS
THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFICALLY
AROUND RURAL AREAS, BUT
SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE KNOW
IT'S AN ISSUE. WE COULD
DEFINITELY WORK WITH YOU IN YOUR
OFFICE TO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT THAT
THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE A
CLOSER LOOK, BUT THERE'S NOTHING
SPECIFICALLY. ON THIS, YOU KNOW,
ASKING THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE
IDEAS WERE I THINK WE GET A
LITTLE MORE. I THINK THERE MIGHT
BE AN OPPORTUNITY I APPRECIATE
AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS THAT
REPUBLICANS ARE SUPPORTING IT,
BUT MAYBE THEY STILL UNDERSTAND
THE PROBLEM. SO ANYWAY, I'LL LAY
OFF TODAY AND THEN I'LL TAKE A
LOOK AT IT. MAYBE GET BACK TO
YOU, RICHARD. THERE ARE EFFORTS
OF FOOT CENTER DOLLY TO DO MORE
WHOLESALE CHANGES. I CAN ASSURE
YOU OF THAT, UH, YEAH. QUESTION
SENATOR BATES YOU RECOGNIZE AND
I WANT TO THANK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
TEAM FOR YEARS. EFFORTS ON THIS
. ABSOLUTELY BUT I AM A IF NOT
CONFLICTED, CONFUSED IF WE HAVE
GROCERIES WHO ARE CURRENTLY
VARIANT IN ARREARS OF PAYING
THOSE FINES THAT THEY'VE
RECEIVED. I'M NOT SURE I DON'T
UNDERSTAND HOW UPPING THAT COST
WAS GONNA GET US WHERE WE WANT
TO GO BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GOING
TO CONTINUE TO REFUSE. AND I
GUESS THAT'S THE COMPLIANCE.
COMPONENT OF THIS WHERE WE NEED
TO DO SOMETHING THAT INCENTIVIZE
RIGHT? I THINK TWO THINGS THAT
ARE ALSO JUST TURN OVER TO MY
WITNESS. OBVIOUSLY CORRECT ME IF
I'M SAYING ANYTHING INCORRECTLY.
BUT BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S
TRYING TO GET AT. I THINK,
SENATOR DOLLIES ISSUE UM MOST OF
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING FINED
OR WHAT YOU WOULD CALL MOM AND
POP GROCERY STORES THERE. YOU'RE
CORNER STORES. WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT RALLIES, OR SAFEWAY OR
WHOLE FOODS. WE'RE TALKING. YOU
KNOW THE MOM AND POP PLACE ON
THE CORNER WHERE SOMEONE GOES
AND GET A GET A COKE. AH, I
THINK EVERYONE'S BEING TREATED
EQUAL. SO SAY SAFEWAY'S BEING
TREATED LIKE THE CORNER GROCERY
STORE AND AS WE CAN ALL IMAGINE
THERE, THERE REALLY SHOULD BE.
EQUAL TREATMENT. I THINK IT'S
TAKING A HARDER LOOK AT OKAY.
SHOULD THERE BE SOME
SEGMENTATION OF TREATMENT BASED
ON THAT AND ALSO REALLY TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND HOW HOW SHOULD WE
TREAT SOME OF THESE YOU KNOW,
SMALL MOM AND POP STORES. IT'S
LIKE IT'S LIKE, YES, THIS IS A
PART OF THEIR BUSINESS, BUT YOU
KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE I THINK A
LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE STALKING IT
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, LIKE
EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS OUT OF
CONVENIENCE. IT'S NOT BECAUSE
THEY'RE ALL MAKING UP THE MONEY.
THEY'RE MAKING MONEY. HAND OVER
FIST, SO I THINK IT JUST REALLY
TO UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
BECAUSE AGAIN, THE THESE LAWS
ARE OLD. RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WORLD IS.
NOW. I THINK YOU BROUGHT YOUR
BRINGING UP A COMPLETELY
EXCELLENT AND BEAR LEGITIMATE
POINT, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT
OF STUDYING THIS? I WOULD JUST
TURN OVER TO MR MURRAY. SEE IF
HE HAS FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME
IF I MISSTATED ANYTHING, OR IF
HE WANTS TO ADD TO ANYTHING. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S KING CAPTURED
IT EXACTLY CORECTLY. WE WHEN I
LOOKED AT THE LIST OF THE STORES
THAT ARE IN ARREARS. I'VE NEVER
HEARD OF THEM. THESE ARE SMALL,
INDEPENDENT LIQUOR STORES,
CONVENIENCE STORES, AND THE
LARGE RETAILERS ARE DUTIFULLY
PAYING THEIR $100 A DAY. SO I'M
I THINK THAT WHAT THIS IS
DEMONSTRATING THESE ARE NOT
NECESSARILY SCOFFLAWS, WHO, YOU
KNOW, NEED TO BE PUNISHED MORE
WE NEED TO BALANCE THIS OUT.
$100 A DAY IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR A
SMALL MODERN POP STORE. IT
APPEARS TO BE NOTHING. YOU KNOW
A VERY MODEST EXPENDITURE FOR A
WALMART COPS CO. UH, WHOLE
FOODS. MANY OF WHICH ARE
ACTUALLY PAYING THIS $100 A DAY
AND HAPPENED SO I THINK THE IDEA
OF THE STUDY IS TO TRY TO FIND
WHAT IS THE SWEET SPOT BASED ON
THE SIZES OF THE STORES. WHAT'S
THE CORRECT? IN LIEU OF
PROPORTION. WHAT DO WE LINK THAT
TO THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OF
THE AUTHOR. THE CHAIR WILL
ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE'S A MOTION BY. OH I I'M
GONNA GO WITH YOU TODAY. EVEN
THOUGH WE HAVEN'T AN ANALYSIS
THAT SAYS OPPOSED, BUT I THINK
YOU'RE WORKING SO HARD TO FIND
AN ANSWER IN ALL OF THIS. AND
MAYBE THAT IS ONE EVEN THOUGH IT
MIGHT BE REDUNDANT. THAT WE KNOW
$100 IS NOT WORKING. DO WE HAVE
TO GO TO 200, BUT I THINK THAT
WILL BE SOME REASON THAT'S
APPLIED TO THAT WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE SMALLER
MERCHANTS I WAS REMEMBERING THIS
CORNER STORE BY MY HOUSE. WHEN
MY KIDS ARE GROWING UP THAT WAS
THE FAVORITE PLACE THAT TURN
THEIR BALLS IN AND GET THEIR
DIME. AND GO BUY A CANDY BAR OR
SOMETHING WHICH WASN'T ALWAYS
WHAT MOM WANTED HIM TO DO. BUT
ANYWAY, I'LL I'M GONNA GO WITH
YOU TODAY, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT
WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE WORK ON
IT. AGREE REALLY IMPORTANT IN
THE BIGGEST PEOPLE WHO I HEAR
FROM MOSTLY MY DISTRICT ARE ALL
THESE FAMILY BUSINESSES, THEIR
FAMILIES. THEY OWN ONE MARKET.
THIS IS THIS IS THEIR WHOLE
LIVELIHOOD, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE
OTHER JOBS. IT'S NOT AN
INVESTMENT. THIS IS WHERE THE
WHOLE FAMILY WORKS. AND YOU
KNOW, SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND
YOUR ISSUE, AND I THINK THIS IS
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. WE
NEED INCENTIVES. WE HAVE A
MOTION. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE
CLOTHES? JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK
PRIVATE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL
THE DISCUSSION. AND I PERSONALLY
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU
, SOME OF THEM WORKING ON THIS
ISSUE AND ALL AND MR MURRAY AND
ALL THOSE ARE INVOLVED IN THIS
IN THIS AREA. MS HOLTKAMP,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS A
B 10 67. ITEM NUMBER FIVE A B 10
67 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEAM. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST WE
WILL BE REFRIED BUT FIRST RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS WIECKOWSKI. I
BATES ORTEZ. CRITICIZE EI DOLLY!
GONZALES. SKINNER. STERN. YOU
HAVE FOUR VOTES WILL KEEP THAT
MATTER OPEN. THIS MEMBERS WERE
GOING TO THE LAST ITEM ON OUR
CALENDAR. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER
SIX A. B 12 40, ALSO BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEAM, WHICH
ADDRESSES INDOOR AIR POLLUTION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S YOU RECOGNIZE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THIS IS
ANOTHER STUDY WHERE WE'RE ASKING
CARB TO ISSUE AN ADDENDUM TO
THEIR NEARLY 20 YEAR OLD PUBLIC
HEALTH DOES STUDY. THAT UPDATED
SCIENCE ON THE SOURCE OF INDOOR
AIR POLLUTANTS AND PROVIDES
POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO REDUCE
THEIR EMISSIONS. WE HAVE MR
WILLIAM BARRETT FROM THE
AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION ON AS
OUR WITNESS. HE'S ALSO ON THE
PHONE, I BELIEVE AS WELL. MR
BARRETT YOU RECOGNIZED PLEASE
PROCEED. THANK YOU, MR TANG AND
GOOD MORNING CAROL WIECKOWSKI
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS WILL BARRETT I'M THE
SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR QUEEN AIR
ADVOCACY WITH AMERICAN LUNG
ASSOCIATION, SPEAKING TODAY AND
WORK SIMPLY PUT A B 12 40. WE'LL
UPDATE STATE RESOURCES RELATED
TO THE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
AVAILABLE ON THE HARMS OF INDOOR
AIR POLLUTION. WE KNOW THAT
CALIFORNIA SIGNIFICANT AIR
POLLUTION CHALLENGES AND WE ARE
INCREASINGLY FOCUSING ATTENTION
ON INDOOR AIR POLLUTION IMPACTS.
ON HEALTH AND SAFETY, AS THE
VAST MAJORITY OF OUR TIME IS
SPENT INDOORS. IN FACT, THE LONG
ASSOCIATION TEAM IS CURRENTLY
UNDERTAKING OUR OWN DEEP DIVE ON
THE LATEST SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
ON INDOOR AIR POLLUTION. UM AND
LOOK FORWARD TO THE STATE
RESOURCES BOARD, UPDATING THEIR
OWN STUDIES. A B 12 40
REPRESENTS AN IMPORTANT
OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE SCIENTIFIC
UNDERSTANDING OF THE HEALTH
EFFECTS OF POLLUTION INDOORS.
THROUGH A STATE DRIVEN REVIEW OF
THE LITERATURE, INCLUDING
EMERGING AREAS OF RESEARCH IN
ORDER TO INFORM HEALTH
PROTECTIVE INTERVENTION. MAYBE
12 40 WOULD REQUIRE CARBS TO
SUBMIT AN ADDENDUM TO THEIR 2000
AND FIVE REPORT ON AIR POLLUTION
INDOORS, INCLUDING THE EXTENDED
SCOPE OF THE REVIEW TO INCLUDE
EMERGING SOURCES OF CONCERN.
INCLUDING FROM OZONE EMITTING
CONSUMER PRODUCTS, NATURAL GAS
FORCES AND INDOOR SOURCES OF
ETHOS. WE KNOW THAT THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS RESEARCH AND
SCIENTIFIC UNDERSTANDING OF
HARMFUL AIR POLLUTION CAN HELP
GUIDE HELP PROTECTIVE ACTIONS
AND BELIEVE THIS UPDATE WILL
PROVIDE IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
TO THE PUBLIC AND POLICYMAKERS
ON THE STEPS THAT ARE NEEDED. TO
REDUCE THE HARM POSED BY INDOOR
AIR POLLUTION. GOING FORWARD
WITH THAT, I THANK YOU AND URGE
YOUR SUPPORT PRETTY
STRAIGHTFORWARD MEASURE AND
USING EXISTING SCIENCE IS ALWAYS
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
EMBRACE HERE AT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE IN
ROOM 1200, WHO WISH TO ADDRESS
THE COMMITTEE AND SHARE YOUR
SUPPORT OF A B 12 40. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. YOU RECOGNIZED ME.
ERICA ROMERO ON BEHALF OF BREAST
CANCER PREVENTION PARTNERS THAT
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
COALITION AND NRDC ACTION FUND
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
MODERATOR WILL YOU PLEASE PROMPT
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE SENATE'S
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE THIS
MORNING TO WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SHARE THEIR SUPPORT OF A B 12
40? AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SUPPORT MAYBE 12 40 PRESS 10 AT
THE TIME. AND THERE ARE NO
COMMENTS IN THE QUEUE, MR. CHAIR
THANK YOU. LET'S TURN TO
OPPOSITION OR MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC HERE IN ROOM 1200 WISHING
THIS VOICED THEIR OPPOSITION TO
A B 12 40 SEEING NONE.
MODERATOR, PLEASE PROMPT MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC. WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO A B 12
40. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION A B 12 40
PRESS 10. AND THERE ARE NO
COMMENTS. MR CHAIR. THANK YOU.
THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC
COMIC, BRINGING BACK TO THE DAIS
. I SEE NO QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A
MOTION. TO MOVE BY SENATOR
GONZALEZ SOME OF THEM REACHING
CLOSE TO FIVE VOTE. MISS HAWKINS%
, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON A B? 12 40. ITEM NUMBER SIX A
B 12 40 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS, BUT
FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI. AYE,
BATES CORTEZ E. ORTEZ EI DOLLY!
GONZALEZ. THEMSELVES. I SKINNER
STERN. RIGHT. WE HAVE. THREE
VOTES WILL KEEP THAT MATTER
OPEN. UH AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THAT CONCLUDES, OUR CALENDAR
TODAY WILL GO THROUGH WILL OPEN
THE ROLE ON. UH ALL ARE MATTERS,
STARTING WITH THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ABSENT MEMBERS AND WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE MEMBERS OF
OFFICES TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME
DOWN HERE? PLEASE CALL THE
ABSOLUTE MEMBERS AND THE CONSENT
CALENDAR, WHICH CONSISTS OF
ITEMS 1349 AND 11. ITEMS ON
CONSENT OR ITEMS. 1349 11. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE ORDERED
TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. UM
CORTESI. ORTEZ EI SKINNER.
STERN. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL PUT THAT
BACK ON CALL FOR A SECOND AND
LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THIS IS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT
A B 649. EXCUSE ME. I REMEMBER
TO A B 6 49 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. THE MOTIONS DO PASS,
BUT FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CHAIR VOTING. I ORTEZ. QUITE
EASY. I DOLLY SKINNER. STERN.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN, AND,
UM FOR THOSE ABSOLUTE MEMBERS
AND HAVE THEM GET HERE. LET'S GO
TO I AM NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS A B
10 67. WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S HERE.
10, 57 AND 12 40. LET'S CALL
ITEM NUMBER. SEVEN A B 11 4 54,
WHICH WAS FURTHER AMENDED TO
NARROW THE EXEMPTION THAT WAS
NOT INCLUDED IN THE STAFF AND
THE STAFF REPORT. PLEASE CALL
THE ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN A B 11 54 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PATTERSON. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMEND IN RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS CHAIR. VOTING I
VICE CHAIR VOTING I 40 CORTESI.
CORTEZ EI SKINNER. STERN. 4455
VOTES. LET'S WE'LL KEEP THAT
MATTER OPEN FOR THE OPPOSITE
MEMBER, AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A. B 21 63 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RUBIO. PLEASE
CALL THE ABSOLUTE ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT A B 21 63 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RUBIO. MOTION
IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST WE WERE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. VOTE IS 40 CHAIR
, VOTING I VICE CHAIR VOTING I
ORTEZ. ORTEZ EI. SKINNER STERN.
I WILL PUT THAT BACK ON CALL.
THERE'S FIVE VOTES. NOW LET'S
TURN TO ITEM NUMBER 10 A B 27 21
BY A SIMILAR MEMBER, LEE
UNDERPAYING AREA. AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT COMPENSATION
. PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 10, MAYBE
27 21 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS. BUT
FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE. NOTICE 30 CHAIR VOTING
I ORTEZ. ORTEZ EI SKINNER STERN
. WE'LL PUT THAT MATTER BACK ON
CALL, AND WE'LL TAKE A SURE.
RECESS WAITING FOR MEMBERS.
OKAY?
MISS HOLCOMB. WILL YOU OPEN THE
ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. THIS IS
A B 12 40 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
KING. ADDRESSES THE. AIR
RESOURCES BOARD INDOOR
POLLUTION. CALL THE ABSOLUTE
MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 6 12 40 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CUTTING MOTION
IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS VOTERS. 30 CHAIR
VOTING I DOLLY! DOLLY NO!
SKINNER STERN PUT THAT MATTER
BACK ON CALL. IT DOES HAVE FOUR
VOTES.
YOU WANT TO LOVE THE BILLS THAT. WE ADDRESS THIS MORNING AND I
THINK YOU'LL START WITH THE
CONSENT CALENDAR OKAY ON THE
CONSENT, CALENDAR OR ITEMS 1349
11. THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE
ORDERED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
UM TROUBLESHOOTING, I'D VOTING I
SKINNER. MY SKIN OR EYE. SIX.
MOVING NEXT TO ITEM TWO A B 6 49
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. A B
6 49 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
, BUT FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
VOTERS. 30 CHAIR VOTING I.
SKINNER. SORRY. YES, I AM. I ALL
DEFINITELY DISTINGUISH THAT
SORRY. OKAY? UM OKAY. SKIN OR
EYES, SO THAT IS 40. MOVING ON
ITEM NUMBER FIVE A. B 10 67
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEAM.
SO LET'S BEGIN WITH THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. THE VOTE TOTAL IS 6060
. THAT BILL IS OUT IN THE ROLE
OF CLOSED. MOVING ON TO ITEM
NUMBER TWO A B. 6 49 THE VOTE
YES, 4040. THAT BILL IS OUT AND
THE ROLE IS CLOSED. MAN WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE TO A B 10 67
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING. CALL THE
ROLL ITEM NUMBER FIVE A. B 10 67
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEACHING.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS. BUT
FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE
VOTE IS 40 CHAIR, FOOD. CHAIR
WIECKOWSKI VOTING I, VICE CHAIR
VICE CHAIR. BATES VOTING, AYE.
SKINNER SKINNER. AYE. TO SURVIVE
ZERO AND THAT BOAT IS SIX. 50
AND THAT BILL IS OUT, AND WE MAY
CLOSE THE ROLE ON THAT. NEXT
YEAR IS ITEM NUMBER SIX A. B 12
40 ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEAM. ITEM
NUMBER SIX A. B 12 40 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EATING. THE
MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 31
BY CHAIR WIECKOWSKI VOTING, AYE.
NICE TURNOUT VOTING. SKINNER.
SKINNER. AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT
WITH FOUR VOTES, AND WE MAY
CLOSE THE ROLE. FOR ONE. NOT
BUILD US OUT. A B ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN A. B 11 54
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PATTERSON. ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN A B 11 54 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PATTERSON. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMENDMENT WE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS VOTERS. 50 CHAIR
WIECKOWSKI VOTING I, VICE CHAIR
BATES VOTING I. SKINNER.
SKINNER. AYE. THAT BOAT DOCKED
IN 60, AND THAT BILL IS OUT THE
ROLE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A B 21
63 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BLANKIE.
A REALLY RUBIO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A B 21
63 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BLANCA
RUBIO. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS,
BUT FIRST REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS THE
VOTERS 50 CHAIR WIECKOWSKI
VOTING I, VICE CHAIR BATES
VOTING I. SKINNER. SKINNER. AYE.
THAT VOTE IS 60 AND THAT VOTERS
THAT BILLETS OUT AND CLOSE THE
ROLE. ITEM NUMBER 10, MAYBE 27
21 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY.
ITEM NUMBER 10. MAYBE 27 21 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY THE
MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE. THE VOTE
IS 40 CHAIR. WIECKOWSKI VOTING,
AYE. NICE TO YOUR BAITS, NOT
VOTING. SKINNER SKINNER. AYE.
VOTERS 50 CLOSER ROLE AND
OUTBUILDINGS OUT AND THAT
CONCLUDES OUR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY MEETING TODAY. THANK YOU
TO ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATED IN THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY TODAY. IF YOU WERE NOT
ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY, PLEASE
SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING TO THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE. YOUR
COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE
IMPORTANT TO US, AND YOU WANT TO
INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY IN THE
OFFICIAL HEARING RECORDS. THANK
YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION AND THANK YOU.
EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
COOPERATIONS. WE HAVE CONCLUDED
THE AGENDA. THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IS
ADJOURNED.