WEBVTT
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STATE SENATOR.
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BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER FIVE
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ON PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE
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JUDICIARY WILL NOW AND CONVENE --
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WHAT'S TO ROLL CALL [inaudible]
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CENTER SKINNER.
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SENATOR MORLOCK.
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CENTER BELL.
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OKAY WE HAVE A QUORUM -- THE
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AGENDA BEFORE YOU LET ME -- AND
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NOW IT'S A FEW CHANGES.
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WE ARE PULLING ITEMS FIVE AND
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ITEMS TWENTY SIX AND MOVING THEM.
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TO DISCUSSION.
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WE ARE ALSO PULLING ITEM.
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SEVEN AND ITEM EIGHT ISSUE SEVEN
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ISSUE.
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EIGHT N. MOVING THEM TO
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DISCUSSION -- OTHERWISE.
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THE REMAINING VOTE ONLY ITEMS
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WILL STAY AS IS.
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A
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MOTION.
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ON ISSUES ONE THROUGH
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[inaudible] FOR WHICH IS THE
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TATTOO REMOVAL PROGRAM THE
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SUPPORT FOR VICTIMS SERVICES.
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THE SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETER
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SERVICES IN THE WORKFORCE
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INNOVATION AND OPPORTUNITY ACT
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DATA SHARING.
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GREAT SEVEN MOTION LET'S DO A
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ROLL CALL [inaudible]
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CENTER SKINNER.
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BY SENATOR MORE LOCK
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[inaudible]
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SENATOR ABOUT.
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OKAY.
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AND ISSUE -- FIVE I WOULD LIKE
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TO HAVE A MOTION AND THAT IS
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HOLD ON A MINUTE IT'S ONLY GOT
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IT'S AN ACRONYM RIGHT NOW AND I
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WANT TO SAY IT OUT.
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ALSO IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND
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BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
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REAPPROPRIATION -- THAT WAS
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PULLED UP SORRY SORRY YOUR AGE I
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WAS TOLD CORRECT.
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OKAY -- THEN LET SAID.
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I NOTES THAT EVEN OKAY -- WE
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WILL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION
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ON ISSUE [inaudible] SIX GREAT
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AND THIS IS THE MEDICAL
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ADJUSTMENT FOR RE ENTRY
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FACILITIES -- LET'S TO ROLL CALL
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[inaudible]
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SENATOR SKINNER.
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BY CENTER MORE LOCK.
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SENATOR BELL.
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ALL RIGHT GREAT AND THEN -- I
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WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION
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ON ISSUE SEVEN WHICH IS THE
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RECEIVERS MEDICAL CLASSIFICATION --
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WE PULL THAT WE PULLED EIGHT
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YOU'RE RIGHT WE PULLED THAT JUST.
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NINETY NINE GREAT OKAY WE HAVE
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MOTION NOW AN ISSUE NINE AND TEN
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AS INDICATED -- THE ACTION IS
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INDICATED IN OUR AGENDA -- ROLL
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CALL.
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CENTER SKINNER HI SENATOR
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MORLOCK CENTER BELL.
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OKAY GREAT NOW LET'S SEE WHERE
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WE AT WITH [inaudible]
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ELEVEN EXCELLENT -- SO NOW WE
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HAVE A MOTION ON ISSUE ELEVEN
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WHICH IS TROUT COURT RESERVES
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TWELVE WHICH IS TRIAL COURT
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EMPLOYEES BENEFITS ADJUSTMENT
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AND THIRTEEN WHICH IS THE TRIAL
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COURT TRUST FUND REVENUE
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SHORTFALL.
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IN THESE ARE -- APPROVED AS
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BUDGETED.
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ROLL CALL [inaudible]
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CENTER SKINNER.
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HI CENTER MORE LOCK.
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SENATOR BELL.
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RIGHT NOW.
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ISSUE FOURTEEN IS NOT PULLED FOR
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DISCUSSION BUT I'D LIKE TO
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ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON FOURTEEN
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WHICH IS -- INCREASING THE
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ALLOCATION TO OUR NONPROFIT
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LEGAL AID GROUPS.
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THE MOVIE.
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ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION ON
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ISSUE FOURTEEN IT'S PROVE IS
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BUDGETED ROLL CALL.
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WE HAVE TO PULL IT FOR
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DISCUSSION.
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DO I GUESS SUPPORT FOR
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DISCUSSION [inaudible]
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OKAY -- GOOD FOR THE I AM
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[inaudible]
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I HAVE [inaudible] FOURTEEN
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WE'RE IT WAS ON VOTE ONLY ON THE
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ORIGINAL AGENDA BUT WE CAN PUT.
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FOUR HOURS BUT NO I FIND A JOB
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THIS ITEM OKAY -- ON THE HOLD.
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WE WENT FOR A DISCUSSION
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[inaudible]
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HE SAID.
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WELL IF YOU WANT TO TALK.
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OKAY SO YOU HAD ORIGINALLY WAS
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NO ANSWER THE REQUESTED SCHOOL
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SENATE-ROOM [inaudible]
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OKAY [inaudible]
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ALL HAVE [inaudible]
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ALL RIGHT.
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WITH I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO DO.
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OKAY RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION
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ON IT -- ROLL CALL PLEASE THIS
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IS APPROVALS BUDGETED IT'S ON
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THIS GENDER BEFORE YOU WHICH
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ISSUE FOURTEEN IT'S INCREASING
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THE ALLOCATION TO THE NONPROFIT
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LEGAL AID GROUPS.
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ROLL CALL CENTERS SKINNER I
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CENTER MOCK.
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CENTER BELL.
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OKAY NOW ISSUE -- I'LL ENTERTAIN
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A MOTION ON ISSUES -- FIFTEEN
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SIXTEEN AND SEVENTEEN THESE ARE.
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ON THE DEPEND CITY COUNCIL TITLE
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FOR EASY FINDING THE COURT OF
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APPEAL WORKLOAD AND THE LANGUAGE
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AXIS EXPANSION IN EACH
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CALIFORNIA COURT.
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A MADE. FOR THE OKAY FOR THOSE
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[inaudible]
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THREE GREAT [inaudible]
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I'M [inaudible]
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ROLL CALL.
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THIS FIFTEEN SIXTEEN THIRTY SURE
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SURE SURE.
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AND USUALLY THESE WERE NOT.
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ACTING ON THE JUDGESHIPS SORRY
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[inaudible]
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MY APOLOGIES.
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OR THE JUDGESHIPS WE ARE HAVING
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AS A DISCUSSION ITEM
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[inaudible]
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SURE.
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NO WORRIES -- THE STORE THIS IS --
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THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THE
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MOTION ON ARE UNDER -- ITEMS
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ZERO TWO FIFTY THE JUDICIAL
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BRANCH THERE FIFTEEN THE
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DEPENDENCY COUNCIL TITLE FOR E.
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FUNDING.
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THEY ARE SIXTEEN THE COURT OF
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APPEALS WORK LOAD AND THEIR
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SEVENTEEN THE LANGUAGE ACCESS
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EXPANSION IN EACH CALIFORNIA
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COURT IT'S INTERPRETERS THAT.
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SEVENTEEN AND THEY ARE --
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APPROVE IS BUDGETED.
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SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT --
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LET'S DO ROLL CALL [inaudible]
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CENTER SKINNER.
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I CENTER MOLOCH [inaudible]
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CENTRE BELL.
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ALL RIGHT NOW.
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WE'LL GO TO ITEM EIGHT ONE
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TWENTY WHICH IS THE COMMISSION
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ON PEACE OFFICER STANDARDS AND
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TRAINING.
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AND THIS IS ISSUE EIGHTEEN THE
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STATE PENALTY FINE TRAILER BILL.
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LANGUAGE.
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ND IT IS APPROVALS FOR POST.
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I CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT
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[inaudible]
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ONE GREAT.
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LET'S DO ROLL CALL [inaudible]
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CENTER SKINNER.
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HI THERE MORE LOCK.
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SENATOR BELL.
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EXCELLENT.
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NOW WE ARE GOING -- TO ITEM.
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ZERO EIGHT TWENTY WHICH IS
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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
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AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A OTION ON
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ITEM.
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NINETEEN WHERE ISSUE NINETEEN
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SKEWS ME ISSUE.
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NINETEEN GREAT AND THIS IS THE
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PEACE OFFICERS VIDEO ON AUTO
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AUDIO RECORDINGS IT'S THE
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FUNDING ALLOCATION FOR
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IMPLEMENTATION OF AB.
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SEVEN FORTY EIGHT WE HAVE A
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MOTION ROLL CALL.
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SENATOR SKINNER HI CENTER MORE
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LOCK.
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CENTER BELL.
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RATHER IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION
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APOLOGIES AND THE STAFF
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RECOMMENDATION SLIGHTLY
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DIFFERENT.
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THAN WHAT THE BCP WAS
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[inaudible]
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OKAY [inaudible]
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I'M.
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THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME MISS.
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SENATOR BREAUX LET'S GO -- TO
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THIS IS NOW HAVE STILL UNDER
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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IT'S ISSUE
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TWENTY THE DISPOSITIONS WORKLOAD
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INCREASE.
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A
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SEPARATE MOTION ON DAD.
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AND THE MOTION IS -- TO REJECT
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THAT PROPOSAL [inaudible]
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THE MOVE.
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RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM
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TWENTY THE DISPOSITION WORKLOAD
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INCREASED TO REJECT THE PROPOSAL
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ROLL CALL.
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SENATOR SKINNER.
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I CENTER MORE LOCK [inaudible]
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CENTRE BELL.
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ALRIGHT THEN WE'RE GONNA GO --
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TO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
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ISSUE.
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TWENTY ONE WHICH IS FUNDING FOR
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THE NEW AND EXPANDED -- CRIMES.
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AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS
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REJECT THE PROPOSAL.
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ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION.
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ON THAT ITEM AS I INDICATED TO
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ROLL CALL.
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CENTERS SKINNER I SENATOR
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MORLOCK.
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CENTRE BELL.
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OKAY -- THAT PASSES WE'LL NOW GO
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TO ISSUE.
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TWENTY TWO WHICH IS THE
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CALIFORNIA INTERNET CONSUMER
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PROTECTION AND NET NEUTRALITY
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ACT -- ALLOCATIONS FOR THE
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IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE.
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AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADOPT
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THE LA OWES RECOMMENDATION AND
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TO MODIFY THE PROPOSAL BY
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ADOPTING THE BUDGET LANGUAGE
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SPECIFYING THE FUNDING CAN ONLY
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BE USED.
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IF THE COURT PROHIBITIONS
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PREVENTING IMPLEMENTATION OR
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ENFORCEMENT HAVE EXPIRED -- BEEN
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REMOVED -- BUT MOTION GREAT SO
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WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT AS I
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JUST READ [inaudible]
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ROLL CALL.
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CENTER SKINNER HI CENTER MODOC
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[inaudible]
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CENTRE BELL.
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OKAY THAT MOTION PASSES.
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AND NOW -- ALL ENTERTAIN A
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MOTION ON ITEMS.
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TWENTY THREE AND TWENTY FOUR FOR
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TWENTY THREE THIS IS THE CRIME
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PREVENTION INVESTIGATION
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INFORMATIONAL DATABASES.
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AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS
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TO MODIFY THE PROPOSAL AND
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APPROVE ONE NEW PERMANENT FIELD
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WRAPPED -- AS PER THE SENATE
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APPROPRIATIONS ANALYSIS AND THEN
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ISSUE TWENTY FOUR IS THE
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CRIMINAL LAW DNA COLLECTION OF
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MINORS.
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AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO
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REJECT THE PROPOSAL AS THE BILL
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WAS KEYED IN ON FISCAL BY BOTH
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HOUSES.
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GREAT SWEAR MOTION NOW -- WITH --
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THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE MOTION
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OR AS I READ.
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AND WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL ON
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THOSE TWO ISSUES.
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CENTER SKINNER I CENTER MORE
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LOCK [inaudible]
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CENTRE BELL [inaudible]
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OKAY.
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NOW WE WILL GO TO ISSUE
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[inaudible] TWENTY FIVE THE
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SEXUAL ASSAULT INVESTIGATION
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EVIDENCE KIDS AND IT WAS EIGHT
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ALLOCATION. FOR THE PREPARATION
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OF THE REPORT.
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AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
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REJECT THE PROPOSAL.
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IN A MOTION REMOVED.
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RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT.
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ONE ROLL CALL.
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CENTER SKINNER I CENTER MORE
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LOCK.
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CENTRE BELL.
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OKAY AND ISSUE [inaudible]
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TWENTY SIX SIX WE ARE NOW HOLD
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FOR DISCUSSION.
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WITH FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WE
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DIDN'T WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.
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NOT HERE NOT ACCORDING. TWENTY
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SIX ONE THAT HAVE -- I GET IT
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OKAY YOU HAD.
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TO YES IT'S FOR DISCUSSION.
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WITH THAT THAT'S RIGHT CORRECT
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CORRECT THROUGH THE FOLDER FOR
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DISCUSSIONS -- IN THAT SEVEN
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WELL WE'LL GET TO IT SO.
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WE WILL NOW GO -- TO DURING THE
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START TIME OR MEMBER DEPARTMENT.
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YEAH YEAH YEAH WE'LL GO BACK
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OKAY SO.
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WE'VE NOW ACTED ON ALL THE VOTE
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ONLY.
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WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK.
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TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA
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AND START WITH THOSE THINGS THAT
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WE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
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SO WE WON'T START WITH WHAT'S
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LISTED AS OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS
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BUT RATHER WE'RE GOING TO RETURN
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TO THOSE THINGS THAT WERE ON
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VOTE ONLY THAT WE PULLED FOR
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DISCUSSION.
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AND THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE
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PULLED FOR DISCUSSION IS UNDER --
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ITEM.
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FIVE TWO TWO FIVE CDC ARE.
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AND IT IS ISSUE
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.
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FIVE RIGHT SO -- THIS.
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ITEM IS FROM COUNSEL IN CRIMINAL
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JUSTICE AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
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REAPPROPRIATION -- IT'S
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REGARDING RE APPROPRIATING.
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OF FOREIGNERS. FIFTEEN THOUSAND
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FROM PROP SIXTY THREE MONIES.
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FOR THAT CAMINO JUSTICE IN
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BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THREE
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APPROPRIATIONS -- STAFF IF YOU
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WANT TO PRESENT AND THEN --
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CENTER MORE LACKEY AND IF YOU
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HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE GO AHEAD
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STAFF YEAH GOOD MORNING MY NAME
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IS ERIC SWANSON I'M THE DEPUTY
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DIRECTOR OF CDC OURS OFFICE OF
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FISCAL SERVICES.
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ARE THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IS A
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ONE TIME REAPPROPRIATION OF FOUR
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HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
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IN MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE ACT
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FUNDS -- THIS WAS PROVIDED IN
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THE TWO THOUSAND EIGHT FOURTEEN
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BUDGET ACT.
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BUT REMAINS ON SPENT WERE ASKING
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FOR REAPPROPRIATION TO SPEND IT
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IN BUDGET WE YEAR.
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WITH ME TODAY IS STEPHANIE WELCH
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WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
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THE C. C. G. BEACH AREA.
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AND SHE CAN DESCRIBE WHAT THOSE
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FUNDS WILL BE USED.
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FOR THANK YOU -- LAST YEAR WE
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WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO RECEIVE
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THESE FUNDS AS PART OF THE
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BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS -- AND THE
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PURPOSE OF THE FUNDS IS FOR US
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TO DEVELOP A COMPETITIVE --
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PROCESS WHERE PEOPLE CAN BID FOR
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CONTRACT -- FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE
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OF EMPOWERING PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN
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FORMALLY INCARCERATED AND LIVING
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WITH MENTAL ILLNESS TO PROVIDE
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INPUT INTO.
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HOW TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES SO
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FOR EXAMPLE WHILE WE HAVE?
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SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD
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SO FAR.
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THAT ARE NEEDED WOULD BE A FROM
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THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF OF FOR
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THE FROM THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE
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ON MENTAL ILLNESS.
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A GROUP THAT REPRESENTS FAMILIES
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WHO HAVE LOVED ONES WHO HAVE
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MENTAL ILLNESS THAT THERE IS A
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NEED FOR MORE TRAINING FOR
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FAMILIES IS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO
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WHEN THEIR LOVED ONE IS ARRESTED.
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SO FOR EXAMPLE THEY COULD BID ON
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A POTENTIAL CONTRACT THAT WOULD
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DEVELOP A TOOL KIT TO HELP THESE
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FAMILIES STATEWIDE.
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BECAUSE THESE ARE MENTAL HEALTH
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SERVICES ACT DOLLARS IN THIS
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CONTRACT HAS NEVER EXISTED
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BEFORE AND IN FACT THERE ISN'T
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CURRENTLY A CONTRACT LIKE THIS
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PARTICULARLY TARGETING PEOPLE
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WITH -- FORMAL FORMER JUSTICE
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INVOLVEMENT WE FELT IT WAS
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REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW THE
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GUIDANCE FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH
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SERVICES ACT WHICH IS TO HAVE A
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VERY ROBUST STAKEHOLDER PROCESS.
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TO THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE USED
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DURING CURRENT YEAR.
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HAVE LAUNCHED A STATEWIDE A
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STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS
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THAT PROCESS -- BEGAN WITH A
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JUVENILE JUSTICE ROUNDTABLE AND
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CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER
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WITH LISTENING SESSIONS AROUND
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THE STATE.
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CAN FORM INTERVIEWS AS WELLAS
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FOCUS GROUPS THE PURPOSE OF THIS
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IS TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AS
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TO HOW WE SHOULD MOST
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THOUGHTFULLY EXPENDITURES FUNDS --
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IT IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF
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MONEY ON AN ON AN ONGOING BASIS
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IT'S ABOUT A SIX HUNDRED AND
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SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS STATE
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WIDE TO COVER ISSUES -- THAT ARE
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FOR CHILDREN YOUTH ADULTS SIX
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ADDRESS WE FEEL IS REALLY
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IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THE
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COMMUNITY AS TO HOW THEY WANTED
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US TO STRUCTURE.
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THE CONTRACTS DID THEY WANT AS
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THE STRUCTURE.
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THE CONTRACTS AT ON A REGIONAL
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BASIS DID THEY WANT THEM TO BE A
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SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN TARGET
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POPULATIONS THAT HAVE HIGH NEEDS
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FOR EXAMPLE IN OUR ROUND TABLE A
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FEW WEEKS AGO WE HEARD THAT.
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CHILDREN WHO HAVE PARENTS ARE
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INCARCERATED HAVE A PARTICULAR
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HIGH NEED.
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SO THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF
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RIGHT NOW AND SO WE FELT WE
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WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD A
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ROBUST PROCESS AND OF COURSE --
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WE APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS FOR THE
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FUTURE YEARS SAID THAT WE HAVE
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THE ABILITY TO AWARD.
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ABOUT ONE POINT ONE MILLION
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DOLLARS IN CONTRACTS IN THE
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FIRST YEAR.
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SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
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QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE -- MORE
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LOOK.
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WHICH THE MONEY WAS NOT SPENT SO.
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THIS DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF YOU
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DIDN'T SPEND IT YOU LOSE IT.
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AT THAT IS CORRECT THE MONEY
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WOULD REVERT TO THE MENTAL
00:17:25.210 --> 00:17:27.646
HEALTH SERVICES ACT FUN.
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HERE SO I DIDN'T GO INTO RESERVE.
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NO THOUGH THAT -- THESE ARE
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STATE ADMIN MENTAL HEALTH
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SERVICES.
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THROUGH A REAPPROPRIATION YOU'RE
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YOU'RE GONNA TRY IT AGAIN.
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ARE YOU GONNA SPEND IT THIS YEAR.
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YES WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT
00:17:39.358 --> 00:17:40.759
THE MONEY OUT FOR BID SO
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NORMALLY WE WOULD ONLY HAVE SIX
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HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND
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DOLLARS TO PUT OUT TO BID IN A
00:17:45.197 --> 00:17:46.999
COMPETITIVE PROCESS. FOR THE
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FIRST YEAR WHICH WE INTEND TO
00:17:48.500 --> 00:17:49.735
HAVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACTS
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WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT OUT TO BID
00:17:51.603 --> 00:17:52.805
ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS.
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SO THAT'S HOW WE INTEND TO SPEND
00:17:54.873 --> 00:17:56.008
THE MONEY NEXT YEAR JUST JUST A
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I'M SORRY -- JUST ONE MORE THING
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I THINK WHAT'S HARD ABOUT THIS
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ISSUE AND IN SOME OF THESE
00:18:00.345 --> 00:18:01.613
ISSUES THAT COME UP LATE IN THE
00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:03.816
BUDGET ACT AS WE DIDN'T HAVE
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SORT OF MONTHS TO PLAN AHEAD HOW --
00:18:07.786 --> 00:18:09.688
TO HOW -- TO DO A COMPETITIVE
00:18:09.755 --> 00:18:11.023
BID FOR THESE GRANTS IT WAS SORT
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OF A LAST MINUTE ADD TO THE
00:18:12.157 --> 00:18:13.625
BUDGET ACT AND THAT'S WHY THERE
00:18:13.692 --> 00:18:15.427
WAS A DELAY IN.
00:18:15.494 --> 00:18:18.430
GETTING ALL THE FUNDING OW OKAY
00:18:18.497 --> 00:18:19.631
SO THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY.
00:18:19.698 --> 00:18:20.232
THEY DIDN'T GET ACCOMPLISHED
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BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL
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YEAR -- YOU'RE EXPECTING YOU
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YOU'RE CALLING IT A ONE TIME BUT
00:18:27.840 --> 00:18:29.274
YOU WILL YOU HOPE TO GET IT FOR
00:18:29.341 --> 00:18:30.342
THE NEXT TWO YEARS AS WELL SO
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YOU'RE SAYING.
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OF THESE ARE ONGOING FUNDS AND
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SO -- WE INTEND TO FOLLOW A
00:18:36.014 --> 00:18:37.282
SIMILAR PROCESS THAT THE MENTAL
00:18:37.349 --> 00:18:38.450
HEALTH SERVICES OVERSIGHT
00:18:38.517 --> 00:18:39.651
ACCOUNTABILITY HAS FOLLOWED WITH
00:18:39.718 --> 00:18:41.153
THEIR STAKEHOLDER CONTRACTS THAT
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THEY EXECUTE FIRST FOR SPECIAL
00:18:42.855 --> 00:18:44.823
POPULATIONS LIKE VETERANS GROUPS.
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WHICH IS -- TO ISSUE THREE YEAR
00:18:47.392 --> 00:18:49.862
CONTRACTS AND THEN ASSESS HOW
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THOSE CONTRACTS WENT USING OUR
00:18:51.697 --> 00:18:53.031
OUR STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT
00:18:53.098 --> 00:18:54.566
WE'VE BUILT A LOOK AT THE
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OUTCOMES OF THOSE.
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POTENTIALLY PRIORITIES WILL
00:18:57.269 --> 00:18:59.705
SHIFT THE COMMUNITY MAY IDENTIFY
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THAT THE NEEDS OF OF OF CHILDREN
00:19:01.573 --> 00:19:02.841
WHO HAVE INCARCERATED PARENTS IS
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THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THE
00:19:04.443 --> 00:19:05.344
FIRST YEAR.
00:19:05.410 --> 00:19:06.745
FIRST THREE YEARS OF CONTRACTS
00:19:06.812 --> 00:19:08.313
BUT MAY DETERMINE THAT SOME
00:19:08.380 --> 00:19:10.015
OTHER PRIORITY IS HOW WE SHOULD
00:19:10.082 --> 00:19:11.583
PUT OUT AN RFP THREE YEARS FROM
00:19:11.650 --> 00:19:12.084
NOW.
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SO FOR EXAMPLE MAYBE THE
00:19:13.685 --> 00:19:14.953
PRIORITY THREE YEARS FROM NOW
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WOULD BE TO REALLY FOCUS ON
00:19:17.689 --> 00:19:20.158
RECEIVING OF BIDS FROM.
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RE ENTRY COUNCILS TO TRY TO WORK
00:19:22.494 --> 00:19:23.262
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE FORMALLY
00:19:23.328 --> 00:19:25.063
INCARCERATED TO HELP THEM BETTER
00:19:25.130 --> 00:19:26.732
ACCESS LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH
00:19:26.798 --> 00:19:27.366
SERVICES.
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SO THIS IS GOOD FOR ALL FIFTY
00:19:30.002 --> 00:19:30.669
EIGHT COUNTIES.
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THAT IS REALLY PART OF THE
00:19:31.970 --> 00:19:33.171
COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER PROCESS
00:19:33.238 --> 00:19:35.874
AGAIN -- I THINK HOW WE HAVE
00:19:35.941 --> 00:19:38.010
SEEN IT BE -- ISSUED IN THE PASS
00:19:38.076 --> 00:19:39.244
THROUGH THE THE MENTAL HEALTH
00:19:39.311 --> 00:19:40.579
SERVICES OVERSIGHT
00:19:40.646 --> 00:19:42.080
ACCOUNTABILITY COMMISSION HAS
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BEEN USUALLY ONE STATE Y.
00:19:44.016 --> 00:19:45.250
CONTRACT.
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WITH MULTIPLE SMALLER REGIONAL
00:19:47.452 --> 00:19:50.155
CONTRACTS SO THAT -- THAT THERE
00:19:50.222 --> 00:19:51.623
CAN BE A FOCUSED EFFORT IN
00:19:51.690 --> 00:19:53.992
SMALLER PORTIONS OF THE STATE IS
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IT ENOUGH MONEY.
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I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S A VERY
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SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDS FOR A VERY
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LARGE PROBLEM SIMILAR TO WHAT WE
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DISCUSSED LAST TIME I WAS HERE.
00:20:01.833 --> 00:20:03.268
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
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INTEND TO DO WITH OUR
00:20:04.236 --> 00:20:06.071
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS IS ISSUE
00:20:06.138 --> 00:20:07.306
THREE DIFFERENT REPORTS.
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THOSE REPORTS WILL BE PROVIDED
00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:10.876
TO YOU -- SUMMARIZING THE
00:20:10.943 --> 00:20:11.677
CONTENT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE
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HEARD -- AND I EXPECT THAT WHAT
00:20:14.112 --> 00:20:15.414
WE MIGHT HEAR THROUGH THE
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PROCESS IS THAT THERE IS A
00:20:17.082 --> 00:20:18.216
HIGHER NEED AND THAT THERE'S
00:20:18.283 --> 00:20:19.785
MORE INTEREST FOR RESOURCES FOR
00:20:19.851 --> 00:20:22.054
THIS WORK.
00:20:22.120 --> 00:20:24.423
BOB -- WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET.
00:20:24.489 --> 00:20:26.491
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT
00:20:26.558 --> 00:20:28.193
FUNDING TO HELP A LARGE LAW AND
00:20:28.260 --> 00:20:29.027
YOU KNOW THE THE COUNTY SET UPS
00:20:29.094 --> 00:20:31.196
ELECTED TO DO THAT MAYBE TWENTY
00:20:31.263 --> 00:20:33.065
OF THE FIFTY EIGHT BUT IT SEEMS
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LIKE THIS WOULD DOVETAIL REALLY
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WELL.
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WITH THOSE COUNTIES THAT ARE
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READY.
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YOU KNOW UTILIZING FLOORS
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LATIMES.
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I'M JUST CURIOUS ONE HAVE YOU
00:20:42.774 --> 00:20:47.112
RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION FROM --
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THE MIDDLE HEALTH COMMUNITY AND
00:20:49.147 --> 00:20:50.315
THEY HAVE DATE IS FILED LAWSUITS
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TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF FUNDING
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OR WAS DISAPPROVED BY THE
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OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT CENTER
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BELL.
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SITS ON WE'VE.
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WE'VE -- EXPERIENCED A LOT OF
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SUPPORT -- WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT
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THIS.
00:21:03.095 --> 00:21:04.830
IT'S THAT SKEWS ME AT SEVERAL OF
00:21:04.896 --> 00:21:05.564
OUR COUNCIL.
00:21:05.631 --> 00:21:07.065
MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF THE
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LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE.
00:21:09.635 --> 00:21:11.536
A WORKING GROUP OF A VARIETY OF
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DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS -- THAT
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ARE GOING TO BE GUIDING THE
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PROCESS AND SO ACTUALLY THIS IS
00:21:17.309 --> 00:21:19.244
BEEN -- AT TREMENDOUSLY
00:21:19.311 --> 00:21:21.013
SUPPORTED BY A VARIETY OF
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DIFFERENT ADVOCACY GROUPS
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PARTICULARLY ONES THAT ARE NEW --
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TO TO THE MENTAL HEALTH
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COMMUNITY IN THE EXCITING PART
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ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO
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BRING TOGETHER.
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THE ADVOCATES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
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FORMALLY INCARCERATED AND THE
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ADVOCATES FOR PEOPLE WHO -- HELP
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PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS TO
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WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATE A
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COLLABORATIVE LEE ON MAYBE.
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TOGETHER A PROPOSAL FOR
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RESOURCES.
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BY I'M GOING TO BEG FOR MY
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COUNTY LEVEL GRANTS BUT MY MAIN
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JAIL WAS THE LARGEST MENTAL AND
00:21:48.340 --> 00:21:49.741
MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTE IN THE
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COUNTY.
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OF ORANGE.
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AND I'M JUST WONDERING --
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COLLEAGUES AT THIS IS ENOUGH
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[inaudible]
00:21:54.980 --> 00:21:56.948
THAT.
00:21:57.015 --> 00:21:57.482
YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT
00:21:57.549 --> 00:21:59.484
PERCENTAGE OF STATE INMATES HAVE
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MENTAL ILLNESS I WOULD ASSUME
00:22:01.153 --> 00:22:02.320
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
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WEEKS.
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TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT IT WAS.
00:22:05.657 --> 00:22:08.326
AND TO WORK WITH FAMILIES -- AND
00:22:08.393 --> 00:22:09.361
IF THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
00:22:09.428 --> 00:22:10.962
ACT IS WILLING TO PROVIDE
00:22:11.029 --> 00:22:12.864
FUNDING IN THIS THIS AREA YOU'RE
00:22:12.931 --> 00:22:14.666
GETTING SUPPORT.
00:22:14.733 --> 00:22:16.868
WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING FOR MORE?
00:22:16.935 --> 00:22:18.537
I THINK THAT WE WANT TO PROVE
00:22:18.603 --> 00:22:20.972
THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL -- AT
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:22.441
I KNOW I KNOW THAT LAST TIME I
00:22:22.507 --> 00:22:24.042
WAS HERE THERE WERE SOME
00:22:24.109 --> 00:22:26.078
QUESTIONS ABOUT -- YOU KNOW WE
00:22:26.144 --> 00:22:27.713
ARE SMALL COUNCIL AND WE ARE
00:22:27.779 --> 00:22:29.815
CURRENTLY STAFF TO FOR POSITIONS.
00:22:29.881 --> 00:22:32.951
I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY --
00:22:33.018 --> 00:22:34.286
TO DO REALLY GOOD WORK WITH THIS
00:22:34.352 --> 00:22:36.188
BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE PART
00:22:36.254 --> 00:22:38.590
OF THE THE DESIRE TO SPEND THE
00:22:38.657 --> 00:22:39.491
MONEY ON A REALLY ROBUST
00:22:39.558 --> 00:22:41.026
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND TO
00:22:41.093 --> 00:22:42.194
PRODUCE THESE REPORTS THIS SO
00:22:42.260 --> 00:22:44.830
THAT I CAN PROVIDE. TO YOU --
00:22:44.896 --> 00:22:46.665
DOCUMENTATION OF THE NEED AND
00:22:46.732 --> 00:22:48.433
THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS I
00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:49.067
THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM
00:22:49.134 --> 00:22:50.936
THE COMMUNITY -- AND THEN YOU
00:22:51.002 --> 00:22:52.637
ALL CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT
00:22:52.704 --> 00:22:54.639
YOU WANT TO PROVIDE MORE FUNDING
00:22:54.706 --> 00:22:55.874
TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS THAT
00:22:55.941 --> 00:22:58.076
THEY'VE IDENTIFIED WHETHER IT'S
00:22:58.143 --> 00:22:59.578
MY COUNSEL OR SOMEBODY ELSE WHO.
00:22:59.644 --> 00:23:02.147
WHO ISSUES THOSE THOSE FUNDS
00:23:02.214 --> 00:23:03.715
THAT'S TO ME NOT IMPORTANT I
00:23:03.782 --> 00:23:06.151
THINK THE THE THE THE BEST THING
00:23:06.218 --> 00:23:06.718
THAT COULD COME OUT OF THAT
00:23:06.785 --> 00:23:08.787
PROCESS WOULD BE -- KEY
00:23:08.854 --> 00:23:11.289
INFORMATION TO ALL OF YOU FROM
00:23:11.356 --> 00:23:12.991
FOLKS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA --
00:23:13.058 --> 00:23:14.693
AS TO WHAT THEY NEED RESOURCES
00:23:14.760 --> 00:23:15.927
FOR SO IF YOU DECIDE TO GET
00:23:15.994 --> 00:23:18.463
THOSE FUNDS. TO THE B. SEC TO
00:23:18.530 --> 00:23:21.133
ADMINISTER OR TO THE COUNTIES TO
00:23:21.199 --> 00:23:22.501
ADMINISTER OR FOR THE COUNCIL TO
00:23:22.567 --> 00:23:23.769
ADMINISTER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
00:23:23.835 --> 00:23:25.604
WE CAN REVISIT AFTER THE FIRST
00:23:25.670 --> 00:23:27.506
YEAR OF THIS PROJECT WE EXPECT
00:23:27.572 --> 00:23:29.007
ALL OF THOSE REPORTS TO BE --
00:23:29.074 --> 00:23:32.110
COMPLETE BY THE END OF THIS
00:23:32.177 --> 00:23:34.412
CALENDAR YEAR.
00:23:34.479 --> 00:23:35.447
WELL MISS WELL TRIED I'D SAY GO
00:23:35.514 --> 00:23:40.252
BIG GO BOLD -- THE MENTAL HEALTH
00:23:40.318 --> 00:23:41.553
SERVICES ACT.
00:23:41.620 --> 00:23:43.755
PROVIDED AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF
00:23:43.822 --> 00:23:45.257
ROOM RESOURCES BUT IT THERE
00:23:45.323 --> 00:23:46.992
LANGUISHING THEY'RE JUST SITTING
00:23:47.058 --> 00:23:48.627
IN BANK ACCOUNTS AND I'D LOVE TO
00:23:48.693 --> 00:23:49.427
SEE.
00:23:49.494 --> 00:23:52.197
A LITTLE BIT MORE GO INTO THIS
00:23:52.264 --> 00:23:52.764
DIRECTION WHERE IT'S REALLY
00:23:52.831 --> 00:23:58.203
NEEDED -- TO ALL MAKE A MOTION
00:23:58.270 --> 00:23:59.471
TO APPROVE THE ITEM MADAM CHAIR
00:23:59.538 --> 00:24:01.907
BUT CAN I DOUBLE HEADER TRIPLET
00:24:01.973 --> 00:24:05.811
AT ON THE FLOOR HERE.
00:24:05.877 --> 00:24:07.879
LIMON MAY I ASK A FEW QUESTIONS
00:24:07.946 --> 00:24:10.916
AND THEN. TO A MISS WELSH BY
00:24:10.982 --> 00:24:14.286
HADN'T INTENDED TO BEFORE BUT I
00:24:14.352 --> 00:24:14.853
SINCE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:15.921
RAISED IT.
00:24:15.987 --> 00:24:17.355
REMINDING ME OF THE DISCUSSION
00:24:17.422 --> 00:24:19.257
WHEN WE HAD THE ITEM PREVIOUSLY.
00:24:19.324 --> 00:24:23.195
AND THE PRESSURE WILL GIVE YOU
00:24:23.261 --> 00:24:26.398
PERMISSION TO ASK MISS WELSH
00:24:26.464 --> 00:24:28.700
QUESTIONS THANK YOU [inaudible]
00:24:28.767 --> 00:24:30.969
SO THIS.
00:24:31.036 --> 00:24:33.872
AT LEAST APPROPRIATION IS --
00:24:33.939 --> 00:24:36.141
PRIMARILY FOR RESEARCH CORRECT.
00:24:36.208 --> 00:24:38.076
TO DO VERSUS DIRECT DELIVERY OF
00:24:38.143 --> 00:24:39.244
SERVICES.
00:24:39.311 --> 00:24:41.313
NOT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THIS
00:24:41.379 --> 00:24:43.381
IS ACTUALLY TO DEVELOP A
00:24:43.448 --> 00:24:46.484
COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS OKAY AND
00:24:46.551 --> 00:24:47.719
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT A
00:24:47.786 --> 00:24:50.755
COMPETITIVEBRIDGE PROCESS. TO
00:24:50.822 --> 00:24:52.224
FOR THE END RESULT BEING THE END
00:24:52.290 --> 00:24:53.892
RESULT BEING A POTENTIALLY COULD
00:24:53.959 --> 00:24:55.460
BE DIRECT SERVICES FOR EXAMPLE
00:24:55.527 --> 00:24:57.262
THE EXACT -- THE EXAMPLE I GAVE
00:24:57.329 --> 00:24:59.865
YOU ABOUT -- CHILDREN WHO HAVE
00:24:59.931 --> 00:25:01.066
INCARCERATED PARENTS WERE
00:25:01.132 --> 00:25:02.767
LOOKING FOR PEER MENTORS OR IT
00:25:02.834 --> 00:25:04.736
COULD BE FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO
00:25:04.803 --> 00:25:06.438
DO MORE ADVOCACY SO FOR EXAMPLE
00:25:06.504 --> 00:25:07.672
SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD FROM RE
00:25:07.739 --> 00:25:08.707
ENTRY COUNCILS.
00:25:08.773 --> 00:25:09.608
IS THAT THEY'RE REALLY
00:25:09.674 --> 00:25:11.543
INTERESTED IN BEING A TRAIN TO
00:25:11.610 --> 00:25:12.844
GO AND TALK TO THEIR BOARD OF
00:25:12.911 --> 00:25:13.745
SUPERVISORS.
00:25:13.812 --> 00:25:17.182
ABOUT A DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT
00:25:17.249 --> 00:25:17.682
THEY WANT.
00:25:17.749 --> 00:25:18.984
TO THROUGH THEY PRESENT TO US
00:25:19.050 --> 00:25:19.818
AND THAT'S PART OF THE
00:25:19.885 --> 00:25:21.786
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS WE REALLY
00:25:21.853 --> 00:25:23.722
WILL HAVE A SERIES ABOUT THIRTY
00:25:23.788 --> 00:25:24.789
DIFFERENT QUESTIONS WE WANT TO
00:25:24.856 --> 00:25:25.824
ASK THE COMMUNITY.
00:25:25.891 --> 00:25:27.425
IN TERMS OF OF WHAT SHOULD BE
00:25:27.492 --> 00:25:28.894
THE PRIORITY SHOULD THE PRIORITY
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.263
BE TRYING TO DELIVER A SERVICE
00:25:31.329 --> 00:25:32.731
SHOULD THE PRIORITY TO BE TO
00:25:32.797 --> 00:25:36.167
DELIVER AN A PRODUCT LIKE A TOOL
00:25:36.234 --> 00:25:36.668
KIT.
00:25:36.735 --> 00:25:38.203
SHOULD IT BE ACE OF AN ONGOING
00:25:38.270 --> 00:25:40.605
SERVICE LIKE A CRISIS LINE FOR
00:25:40.672 --> 00:25:41.673
AS WE FR THIS TO A CRISIS LINE
00:25:41.740 --> 00:25:43.541
THAT PARENTS CAN CALL WHEN THEIR
00:25:43.608 --> 00:25:46.344
CHILD IS -- ARRESTED AND THAT'S
00:25:46.411 --> 00:25:47.812
REALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TELL
00:25:47.879 --> 00:25:50.548
US AND AND WE WILL BRING THOSE
00:25:50.615 --> 00:25:52.284
RECOMMENDATIONS TO OUR BOARD AND
00:25:52.350 --> 00:25:53.551
IN NOVEMBER THE BOARD WILL
00:25:53.618 --> 00:25:54.920
DETERMINE.
00:25:54.986 --> 00:25:56.454
HOW THEY WANT TO STRUCTURE THOSE
00:25:56.521 --> 00:25:58.523
ARE OF PEAS THEY MAY DETERMINE
00:25:58.590 --> 00:25:59.157
BASED ON EVERYTHING WE HERE IN
00:25:59.224 --> 00:26:00.792
THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ONLY
00:26:00.859 --> 00:26:06.064
WANT TO ISSUE -- A COMPETITIVE
00:26:06.131 --> 00:26:07.933
PROCESS.
00:26:07.999 --> 00:26:08.566
FOR I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP BUT
00:26:08.633 --> 00:26:09.167
CHILDREN WHO HAVE INCARCERATED
00:26:09.234 --> 00:26:09.434
PARENTS.
00:26:09.501 --> 00:26:09.968
WHO NEED SERVICES IN THE
00:26:10.035 --> 00:26:11.636
COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED
00:26:11.703 --> 00:26:13.471
THROUGH THAT STAKEHOLDER PROCESS
00:26:13.538 --> 00:26:15.040
AS WELL AS THE RESEARCH PROCESS
00:26:15.106 --> 00:26:16.641
WHEN I SEE RESEARCH LITERATURE
00:26:16.708 --> 00:26:17.943
REVIEW KEY INFORMANT INTO
00:26:18.009 --> 00:26:19.778
INTERVIEWS WITH EXPERTS FOCUS
00:26:19.844 --> 00:26:21.913
GROUPS -- THAT THAT IS SUCH AN
00:26:21.980 --> 00:26:23.248
UNMET NEED THAT IT IS THE
00:26:23.315 --> 00:26:25.283
BIGGEST PRIORITY FOR THE FIRST
00:26:25.350 --> 00:26:26.785
THREE YEARS OF THESE FUNDS.
00:26:26.851 --> 00:26:29.654
THE ALLOCATION TODAY IS TO
00:26:29.721 --> 00:26:31.356
DEVELOP THAT OUR P. NOT%
00:26:31.423 --> 00:26:32.891
NECESSARILY DEFINED [inaudible]
00:26:32.958 --> 00:26:37.128
THE WHATEVER ACTIVITY.
00:26:37.195 --> 00:26:38.863
ACTUALLY IT IS TO FUND THE
00:26:38.930 --> 00:26:40.865
ACTIVITY AND THE THE FUNDS THAT
00:26:40.932 --> 00:26:43.435
WE HAVE USED THIS YEAR SO FAR
00:26:43.501 --> 00:26:44.803
HAVE SUPPORTED THAT STAKEHOLDER
00:26:44.869 --> 00:26:46.905
PROCESS WE'RE ABLE TO CARRY SOME
00:26:46.972 --> 00:26:48.406
OF THOSE DELIVERABLES INTO AN
00:26:48.473 --> 00:26:50.342
OVER THE SUMMER AND OF COURSE
00:26:50.408 --> 00:26:50.875
WERE RIGHT IN OUR OF P.
00:26:50.942 --> 00:26:53.912
OURSELVES -- IN IT AS PART OF MY
00:26:53.979 --> 00:26:56.247
TEAM AND SO THIS REAPPROPRIATION
00:26:56.314 --> 00:27:00.185
WILL GO DIRECTLY INTO CONTRACTS.
00:27:00.251 --> 00:27:01.219
THEN IN THE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL
00:27:01.286 --> 00:27:03.054
FROM THE DISCUSSION SO FAR.
00:27:03.121 --> 00:27:09.761
THE THE SERVICES AND THE DATA
00:27:09.828 --> 00:27:10.362
GATHERING I'D SAY OUR RESEARCH
00:27:10.428 --> 00:27:10.929
IS [inaudible]
00:27:10.996 --> 00:27:15.800
ON FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY OUT OF
00:27:15.867 --> 00:27:18.069
THE SYSTEM THEY MIGHT BE ON
00:27:18.136 --> 00:27:20.105
PAROLE BUT THEY'RE NOT.
00:27:20.171 --> 00:27:21.773
IN MAKES HOUSE TO NOW IN IN ONE
00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:23.241
OF OUR FACILITIES [inaudible]
00:27:23.308 --> 00:27:26.878
CORRECT OR TO BE HONEST WE WERE
00:27:26.945 --> 00:27:28.980
THIS WAS NOT A B. C. P. -- AND
00:27:29.047 --> 00:27:30.415
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
00:27:30.482 --> 00:27:32.951
QUESTIONS WE REALLY WANT TO ASK
00:27:33.018 --> 00:27:34.686
WHEN I SAY IT WAS AN A B. C. P.
00:27:34.753 --> 00:27:35.854
THERE WAS AN TO M..
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.122
WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE
00:27:37.188 --> 00:27:38.656
AWARDED THESE FUNDS LAST YEAR AS
00:27:38.723 --> 00:27:41.292
PART OF BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS --
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.961
AND SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF
00:27:43.028 --> 00:27:43.762
THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK
00:27:43.828 --> 00:27:45.530
THERE WAS NO DIRECTION AS TO
00:27:45.597 --> 00:27:47.332
WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE. FOR
00:27:47.399 --> 00:27:49.267
INDIVIDUALS ONLY WHO OF ALREADY
00:27:49.334 --> 00:27:51.836
EXITED INCARCERATION AND OR ONLY
00:27:51.903 --> 00:27:53.538
INDIVIDUALS INSIDE WHO ARE
00:27:53.605 --> 00:27:54.272
CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING
00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:55.640
INCARCERATION I THINK IT WOULD
00:27:55.707 --> 00:27:57.375
BE A CRITICAL ISSUE TO ASK THE
00:27:57.442 --> 00:27:59.144
COMMUNITY BECAUSE BOTH ARE
00:27:59.210 --> 00:28:01.646
REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES -- BUT
00:28:01.713 --> 00:28:03.581
AGAIN.
00:28:03.648 --> 00:28:05.550
I FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE
00:28:05.617 --> 00:28:07.085
INCLUDING THE PEOPLE CALIFORNIA
00:28:07.152 --> 00:28:08.520
SHOULD TELL THE COUNCIL WHAT IS
00:28:08.586 --> 00:28:10.355
THE PRIORITY IF IT'S PEOPLE WHO
00:28:10.422 --> 00:28:11.122
ARE HOME.
00:28:11.189 --> 00:28:12.390
WHO'VE BEEN INCARCERATED OR WHO
00:28:12.457 --> 00:28:13.558
ARE GREAT RISK OF RE
00:28:13.625 --> 00:28:15.427
INCARCERATION OR EVEN INITIAL
00:28:15.493 --> 00:28:18.363
INCARCERATION OF VERSUS PEOPLE
00:28:18.430 --> 00:28:18.897
WHO MIGHT BE EXPERIENCING
00:28:18.963 --> 00:28:19.798
PERSPIRATION.
00:28:19.864 --> 00:28:20.732
I RAISE THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.534
BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE PREVIOUS
00:28:22.600 --> 00:28:25.570
DISCUSSION BUT IT'S MORE ROOM.
00:28:25.637 --> 00:28:27.238
TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS
00:28:27.305 --> 00:28:30.341
REALLY HOUSE IN CDC ARE.
00:28:30.408 --> 00:28:32.877
IF IT'S IF WERE FOCUSED
00:28:32.944 --> 00:28:36.414
PRIMARILY ON THE FOLKS WHO ARE
00:28:36.481 --> 00:28:39.451
CURRENTLY IN A STATE FACILITY.
00:28:39.517 --> 00:28:41.219
THEN THERE IS THERE SOME LOGIC
00:28:41.286 --> 00:28:43.221
TO IT BEING IN CDC ARE IF IT'S
00:28:43.288 --> 00:28:44.489
PEOPLE WHO ARE.
00:28:44.556 --> 00:28:46.691
EITHER FAMILIES -- FOR PEOPLE
00:28:46.758 --> 00:28:49.160
WHO ARE ALREADY -- WHO ARE NO
00:28:49.227 --> 00:28:51.429
LONGER MAYBE UNDER PAROLE BUT NO
00:28:51.496 --> 00:28:54.132
LONGER IN A STATE FACILITY THEN
00:28:54.199 --> 00:28:56.301
IT SEEMS LIKE THE ACTIVITY MAY
00:28:56.367 --> 00:28:57.535
BE BETTER HOUSE?
00:28:57.602 --> 00:29:01.439
NOT WITHIN CDC ARE. ONE OF THE
00:29:01.506 --> 00:29:03.374
THINGS I I THINK I'VE NEGLECTED
00:29:03.441 --> 00:29:04.476
TO DO WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME
00:29:04.542 --> 00:29:05.710
WAS TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF
00:29:05.777 --> 00:29:07.312
BACKGROUND ABOUT WHO MY COUNCIL
00:29:07.378 --> 00:29:08.513
MEMBERS ARE.
00:29:08.580 --> 00:29:10.181
I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT -- YOU
00:29:10.248 --> 00:29:11.816
KNOW MY KIND OF DIRECT CHAIN OF
00:29:11.883 --> 00:29:15.120
COMMAND BUT I ALSO -- WORK FOR
00:29:15.186 --> 00:29:16.554
MY COUNCIL MEMBERS MY COUNCIL
00:29:16.621 --> 00:29:18.556
MEMBERS REPRESENT A VARIETY OF
00:29:18.623 --> 00:29:20.358
DIFFERENT LOCAL EXPERTS --
00:29:20.425 --> 00:29:22.360
BETWEEN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND
00:29:22.427 --> 00:29:23.495
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEMS SO
00:29:23.561 --> 00:29:25.897
COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH DIRECTORS
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PROBATION CHIEFS -- COURT JUDGES --
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PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE IN
00:29:29.734 --> 00:29:31.169
THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM.
00:29:31.236 --> 00:29:34.639
AND SO IT WE REALLY OPERATE --
00:29:34.706 --> 00:29:36.774
OUTSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT
00:29:36.841 --> 00:29:38.309
IS CONSIDERED THE FOCUS OF THE
00:29:38.376 --> 00:29:41.212
TARGET POPULATION OF CDC ARE --
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AND WE SPEND OUR TIME WORKING
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WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT GROUPS
00:29:44.849 --> 00:29:46.017
AND DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS
00:29:46.084 --> 00:29:47.085
WITH LIKE THE COUNTY BEHAVIOR
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HEALTH DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION.
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THE CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS OF
00:29:51.356 --> 00:29:53.958
OUR SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION -- AND
00:29:54.025 --> 00:29:56.461
THAT REALLY IS WHERE WE SPEND A
00:29:56.528 --> 00:29:58.596
GREAT DEAL OF OUR TIME WE ALSO
00:29:58.663 --> 00:29:59.898
HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
00:29:59.964 --> 00:30:01.232
CARE SERVICES AS WELL AS THE
00:30:01.299 --> 00:30:03.034
DEPARTMENT STATE HOSPITALS.
00:30:03.101 --> 00:30:04.969
REPRESENTED HONOR COUNCIL -- AND
00:30:05.036 --> 00:30:07.238
SO WE DO A LOT OF PROJECTS WITH
00:30:07.305 --> 00:30:10.575
THEM DIRECTLY -- SO.
00:30:10.642 --> 00:30:11.576
I THINK I NEGLECTED TO EXPLAIN
00:30:11.643 --> 00:30:13.344
THAT -- WHEN I WAS HERE LAST
00:30:13.411 --> 00:30:15.680
TIME -- WELL THE SECRETARY OF
00:30:15.747 --> 00:30:18.216
CDC OUR IS OUR CHAIR -- IT IS
00:30:18.283 --> 00:30:20.218
THE WHOLE COUNCIL THAT MAKES
00:30:20.285 --> 00:30:21.352
DECISIONS ABOUT.
00:30:21.419 --> 00:30:22.420
WHERE WE SPEND OUR TIME AND
00:30:22.487 --> 00:30:23.888
ENERGY WHAT ISSUES WE SHOULD
00:30:23.955 --> 00:30:28.593
FOCUS ON X. ADDRESS -- I
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APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE VICE
00:30:31.262 --> 00:30:35.533
CHAIR SENTIMENT ABOUT -- THAT
00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:37.001
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE NEEDS THAT
00:30:37.068 --> 00:30:38.736
POTENTIALLY COULD DESERVE
00:30:38.803 --> 00:30:40.638
ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
00:30:40.705 --> 00:30:43.374
I WOULD BE HESITANT TO DO SO YES
00:30:43.441 --> 00:30:46.177
WITHOUT -- SOME CLARITY AS TO
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WHAT TIME [inaudible]
00:30:47.045 --> 00:30:49.681
IT.
00:30:49.747 --> 00:30:50.615
WHAT DIRECTION WE GIVE IT WHAT
00:30:50.682 --> 00:30:54.085
OBJECTIVES -- BUT I THINK.
00:30:54.152 --> 00:30:56.754
IN THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WHY.
00:30:56.821 --> 00:30:58.223
COLLEAGUES ARE WILLING DURING
00:30:58.289 --> 00:30:59.557
THE INTERIM THAT WE MIGHT WANT
00:30:59.624 --> 00:31:00.525
TO HAVE.
00:31:00.592 --> 00:31:02.093
AN INFORMATIONAL HEARING ABOUT
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.463
BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF S
00:31:05.530 --> 00:31:07.632
REALIZE THAT [inaudible]
00:31:07.699 --> 00:31:11.869
TEARS -- THAT HAVING A LARGE
00:31:11.936 --> 00:31:14.339
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH.
00:31:14.405 --> 00:31:17.275
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
00:31:17.342 --> 00:31:19.477
IN OUR STATE PRISONS AND WHO ARE
00:31:19.544 --> 00:31:21.746
THEY ARE PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF
00:31:21.813 --> 00:31:25.083
LACK OF SIFT AT APPROPRIATE
00:31:25.149 --> 00:31:26.217
TREATMENT FOR THEIR MENTAL
00:31:26.284 --> 00:31:27.719
HEALTH ISSUES.
00:31:27.785 --> 00:31:28.820
IS NOT A BENEFIT TO EITHER A
00:31:28.886 --> 00:31:32.190
PRISON -- SYSTEM OR TO THOSE
00:31:32.257 --> 00:31:34.158
INDIVIDUALS.
00:31:34.225 --> 00:31:35.727
AND THAT IF.
00:31:35.793 --> 00:31:37.929
GETTING SMARTER ABOUT THAT.
00:31:37.996 --> 00:31:40.331
IS -- WOULD BENEFIT EVERYONE ALL
00:31:40.398 --> 00:31:41.232
CALIFORNIA.
00:31:41.299 --> 00:31:46.204
AND WE WE'VE DONE SOME BUT NOT A
00:31:46.271 --> 00:31:46.371
LOT.
00:31:46.437 --> 00:31:47.705
SO [inaudible]
00:31:47.772 --> 00:31:49.741
MAYBE WILL.
00:31:49.807 --> 00:31:51.542
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION YOU
00:31:51.609 --> 00:31:53.911
MADE WILL ACT ON THIS AND IF --
00:31:53.978 --> 00:31:55.513
WE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE TODAY BUT
00:31:55.580 --> 00:31:57.048
MY COLLEAGUES ARE INTERESTED
00:31:57.115 --> 00:32:00.451
MAKE ABOUT HAVING -- SOME
00:32:00.518 --> 00:32:01.052
INFORMATIONAL HEARINGS IN THE
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.086
INTRO.
00:32:02.153 --> 00:32:03.221
YEAH WE WOULD BE.
00:32:03.288 --> 00:32:05.189
THRILLED TO HELP PUT THAT ON
00:32:05.256 --> 00:32:07.458
CENTERVILLE [inaudible]
00:32:07.525 --> 00:32:11.229
SO -- THE HEALTH SERVICES
00:32:11.296 --> 00:32:12.730
ACKERMAN THE COMMISSION I KNOW
00:32:12.797 --> 00:32:14.632
THE PROCESS YOU'RE GOING TO GET
00:32:14.699 --> 00:32:16.067
A THREE YEAR THIS A THREE YEAR.
00:32:16.134 --> 00:32:18.369
PROPOSAL WITH -- RENEWABLES IF
00:32:18.436 --> 00:32:19.504
YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
00:32:19.570 --> 00:32:21.673
AND THEY HAVE A PERFORMANCE
00:32:21.739 --> 00:32:23.241
EVALUATION PROCESS.
00:32:23.308 --> 00:32:26.077
IT'S PRETTY STANDARD YOU KNOW SO
00:32:26.144 --> 00:32:27.545
YOU KNOW WHICH ARE YOU HAVE.
00:32:27.612 --> 00:32:29.614
TO CHAU WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO
00:32:29.681 --> 00:32:30.248
REAP WHAT THE RESULTS ARE GOING
00:32:30.315 --> 00:32:32.150
TO BE -- AND THAT'S ALL PART OF
00:32:32.216 --> 00:32:34.452
YOUR APPLICATION WHEN YOU
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:35.019
ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR THIS
00:32:35.086 --> 00:32:35.720
RIGHT.
00:32:35.787 --> 00:32:39.357
SO -- YOU YOU -- THE MONEY IS
00:32:39.424 --> 00:32:40.591
HANDLED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:32:40.658 --> 00:32:41.759
CORRECTIONS THE QUESTION I WOULD
00:32:41.826 --> 00:32:42.760
HAVE IS.
00:32:42.827 --> 00:32:44.362
HOW MUCH MONEY FROM THE MENTAL
00:32:44.429 --> 00:32:45.963
HEALTH SERVICES -- X..
00:32:46.030 --> 00:32:46.964
DOES THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:32:47.031 --> 00:32:48.466
CORRECTION GET AND WORLD SERIES
00:32:48.533 --> 00:32:51.169
SPENDING THAT MONEY. TO SPEND
00:32:51.235 --> 00:32:53.037
ANY MONEY FROM -- IN YOU GET
00:32:53.104 --> 00:32:55.940
MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF OR
00:32:56.007 --> 00:32:57.041
THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT.
00:32:57.108 --> 00:32:58.876
OTHER IN THIS PARTICULAR BRAND
00:32:58.943 --> 00:33:01.646
OR OTHER MONEY SPENT ON THANKS
00:33:01.713 --> 00:33:03.181
LEAVE THAT THIS IS THE ONLY
00:33:03.247 --> 00:33:04.549
PLACE WE SPENT MENTAL HEALTH
00:33:04.615 --> 00:33:07.919
SERVICES ACT FUNDING PROP SIXTY
00:33:07.985 --> 00:33:09.020
THREE THIS IS THE ACTUALLY WE
00:33:09.087 --> 00:33:10.321
THE COUNCIL ARE THE ONLY.
00:33:10.388 --> 00:33:12.156
ENTITY WITHIN CDC ARE THAT
00:33:12.223 --> 00:33:13.391
RECEIVES ANY MENTAL HEALTH
00:33:13.458 --> 00:33:14.592
SERVICES ACT FUNDING WE DO
00:33:14.659 --> 00:33:15.993
RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL MENTAL
00:33:16.060 --> 00:33:17.328
HEALTH SERVICES ACT FUNDING FOR
00:33:17.395 --> 00:33:18.896
OF FOR A POSITION FOR A
00:33:18.963 --> 00:33:20.131
RESEARCHER.
00:33:20.198 --> 00:33:21.399
AND THAT IS FOR A MEDICAL
00:33:21.466 --> 00:33:23.868
UTILIZATION PROJECT WITH DH CS
00:33:23.935 --> 00:33:26.170
WE WE LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE EXITING
00:33:26.237 --> 00:33:28.072
INCARCERATIONS SPECIFICALLY CDC
00:33:28.139 --> 00:33:29.807
ARE UTILIZED THEIR MEDI CAL
00:33:29.874 --> 00:33:32.443
BENEFITS -- AND THAT IS OF
00:33:32.510 --> 00:33:34.011
FUNDED BY THE MENTAL HEALTH
00:33:34.078 --> 00:33:37.515
SERVICES ACT AND SO -- WE WE ARE
00:33:37.582 --> 00:33:39.283
LAUNCHING INTO OUR NEXT YEAR OF
00:33:39.350 --> 00:33:40.651
RESEARCH WITH THAT PARTICULAR
00:33:40.718 --> 00:33:42.286
PROJECT AND WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON
00:33:42.353 --> 00:33:43.688
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT
00:33:43.755 --> 00:33:44.722
I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A
00:33:44.789 --> 00:33:45.923
SUBJECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
00:33:45.990 --> 00:33:47.325
RIGHT NOW SO YOU.
00:33:47.392 --> 00:33:48.726
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT HOW I WILL
00:33:48.793 --> 00:33:50.228
DEVELOP A BASS LINE AND THEN WE
00:33:50.294 --> 00:33:51.662
WILL START LOOKING AT HOW PEOPLE
00:33:51.729 --> 00:33:53.498
LEADING CDC ARE UTILIZED THEIR
00:33:53.564 --> 00:33:55.900
SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT BENEFIT
00:33:55.967 --> 00:33:57.869
IN THE COMMUNITY.
00:33:57.935 --> 00:34:00.071
YEAH OKAY.
00:34:00.138 --> 00:34:02.607
BY TAKE A THINKER ON FOR I GET
00:34:02.673 --> 00:34:04.509
OUT OF THIS YOUR YOUR PUNCH THE
00:34:04.575 --> 00:34:05.543
KIND OF CONTRACTS.
00:34:05.610 --> 00:34:07.412
THE MONEY WILL GO TO WILL BE.
00:34:07.478 --> 00:34:08.946
HI THERE APPEARS SO POOR
00:34:09.013 --> 00:34:09.247
[inaudible]
00:34:09.313 --> 00:34:11.783
SYSTEMS SO TO HELP WITH --
00:34:11.849 --> 00:34:13.184
PEOPLE.
00:34:13.251 --> 00:34:15.286
IN A TRANSITION AND MAYBE --
00:34:15.353 --> 00:34:17.789
HAVE OTHER GOALS LIKE. ONE OF I
00:34:17.855 --> 00:34:20.992
I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG GOALS --
00:34:21.058 --> 00:34:22.326
IN THE MIDDLE HEALTH SERVICES
00:34:22.393 --> 00:34:23.494
ACT.
00:34:23.561 --> 00:34:25.530
FOR PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL
00:34:25.596 --> 00:34:27.064
JUSTICE SYSTEM.
00:34:27.131 --> 00:34:27.999
RE CONNECTION WITH THEIR
00:34:28.065 --> 00:34:30.301
FAMILIES.
00:34:30.368 --> 00:34:32.703
AND FAMILY -- UNIFICATION TRYING
00:34:32.770 --> 00:34:35.306
TO KEEP THE PERSON CONNECTED
00:34:35.373 --> 00:34:36.974
WITH THE FAMILY SO THEY HAVE.
00:34:37.041 --> 00:34:40.077
A SUPPORT SYSTEM WHEN THEY LEAVE.
00:34:40.144 --> 00:34:41.846
IF THIS SPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE A
00:34:41.913 --> 00:34:43.080
SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS THEY HAVE
00:34:43.147 --> 00:34:47.652
TO HAVE THE CONNECTION SO --
00:34:47.718 --> 00:34:49.020
HAVING THE PIER HERE KIND OF
00:34:49.086 --> 00:34:51.055
SUPPORT [inaudible]
00:34:51.122 --> 00:34:54.926
PROGRAMS -- IS WORD OTHER PARTS
00:34:54.992 --> 00:34:56.093
OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE DONE
00:34:56.160 --> 00:35:00.097
FOR THAT -- AND A SURPLUS KIND
00:35:00.164 --> 00:35:02.233
OF PROGRAM SO.
00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:03.768
GENERALLY -- SIR MORE LAX
00:35:03.835 --> 00:35:06.270
CORRECT IN THAT THIS IS.
00:35:06.337 --> 00:35:07.472
WE'RE TO TRY THERE'S GOING TO BE
00:35:07.538 --> 00:35:08.473
MORE THERE'S ALREADY A BILL TO
00:35:08.539 --> 00:35:11.375
AND PERFORMANCE MONITORING.
00:35:11.442 --> 00:35:14.178
GOT A REPORT BACK SYSTEM.
00:35:14.245 --> 00:35:16.347
ON THE EXPENDITURE OF OF THE
00:35:16.414 --> 00:35:17.548
BILL HELPS SERVICE DOLLARS FOR
00:35:17.615 --> 00:35:18.616
THOSE SO.
00:35:18.683 --> 00:35:21.719
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED WE COULD.
00:35:21.786 --> 00:35:23.688
TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
00:35:23.754 --> 00:35:25.923
AFTER THEY GET STARTED OR IF YOU
00:35:25.990 --> 00:35:28.292
WANTED TO YOU KNOW.
00:35:28.359 --> 00:35:30.761
HELLO THIS -- I'M LOOKING AT THE
00:35:30.828 --> 00:35:32.897
DOLLAR AMOUNT YOU'RE NOT GOING.
00:35:32.964 --> 00:35:34.232
TO YOUR SUPPORT PROGRAMS AREN'T
00:35:34.298 --> 00:35:36.567
THAT EXPENSIVE BUT ON THE OTHER
00:35:36.634 --> 00:35:38.603
HAND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF
00:35:38.669 --> 00:35:40.238
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CAN BE --
00:35:40.304 --> 00:35:41.372
COVERD WITH THIS AMOUNT OF
00:35:41.439 --> 00:35:41.939
MONEY.
00:35:42.006 --> 00:35:44.275
MAN I WRITE WITH A PROBABLY
00:35:44.342 --> 00:35:45.743
WOULD THINK THAT'S KIND OF A THE
00:35:45.810 --> 00:35:46.978
SLIM.
00:35:47.044 --> 00:35:48.980
THEN -- BUDGET FOR THE STATE OF
00:35:49.046 --> 00:35:51.315
CALIFORNIA BUT IT COULD BE LIKE
00:35:51.382 --> 00:35:55.653
LOOKED AT AS A MORE OF CAIRO A
00:35:55.720 --> 00:35:58.789
PHASE IN KIND OF THING.
00:35:58.856 --> 00:36:00.057
YOU ARE LOOKING THAT WAY MORE OF
00:36:00.124 --> 00:36:03.494
A MULTI YEAR PHASE AND YOU
00:36:03.561 --> 00:36:05.363
WANTED THESE KIND OF PROGRAMS --
00:36:05.429 --> 00:36:06.430
CONNECTION WITH FAMILY IN TERMS
00:36:06.497 --> 00:36:08.432
OF MIL ILLNESS IS PROBABLY ONE
00:36:08.499 --> 00:36:10.601
OF THE BEST THINGS YOU CAN DO.
00:36:10.668 --> 00:36:12.403
TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM.
00:36:12.470 --> 00:36:14.438
WITH MEL MENTALLY ILL OFFENDERS
00:36:14.505 --> 00:36:15.973
IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TO
00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:17.041
HELP THEM.
00:36:17.108 --> 00:36:20.111
RATHER THAN HAVING THE HOMELESS.
00:36:20.177 --> 00:36:22.847
AND THAT'S WHERE ARE HOMELESS
00:36:22.914 --> 00:36:25.216
POPULATION COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO
00:36:25.283 --> 00:36:28.185
HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE THEY BECOME
00:36:28.252 --> 00:36:30.154
HOMELESS CHANNELS SO.
00:36:30.221 --> 00:36:32.089
THE NAME RE A FAN AND THEN THEY
00:36:32.156 --> 00:36:33.691
GET INTO THE SYSTEM AGAIN.
00:36:33.758 --> 00:36:35.693
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT KIND OF
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.562
RECYCLE OVER AND OVER.
00:36:37.628 --> 00:36:39.664
SO I THINK I THINK -- LOOK INTO
00:36:39.730 --> 00:36:43.234
THIS OF THAT WAY WOULD BE.
00:36:43.301 --> 00:36:45.202
APPROPRIATE I DON'T KNOW.
00:36:45.269 --> 00:36:46.370
HOW WE WANT TO DISCUSS THIS
00:36:46.437 --> 00:36:47.605
ISSUE BUT I THINK IT'S A
00:36:47.672 --> 00:36:47.905
[inaudible]
00:36:47.972 --> 00:36:55.413
IT'S TO ME IT SERVICE -- CONCEPT
00:36:55.479 --> 00:36:57.148
IT'S BEEN USE OTHER PLACES THAT
00:36:57.214 --> 00:36:59.050
SIMPLY IS SUCCESSFUL.
00:36:59.116 --> 00:37:00.217
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF.
00:37:00.284 --> 00:37:01.485
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE HAVING
00:37:01.552 --> 00:37:04.689
HERE IS REALLY GOOD -- SCRATCH
00:37:04.755 --> 00:37:06.924
THE SURFACE OR MAKE A BIG IMPACT
00:37:06.991 --> 00:37:08.292
I DON'T KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU
00:37:08.359 --> 00:37:10.194
PROBABLY HAVE TO TARGET THIS
00:37:10.261 --> 00:37:10.895
MONEY SOMEWHERE.
00:37:10.962 --> 00:37:14.065
A LITTLE BIT.
00:37:14.131 --> 00:37:15.900
SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
00:37:15.967 --> 00:37:17.735
CENTER MORE LUCK THANK YOU MADAM
00:37:17.802 --> 00:37:20.071
CHAIR -- I'M.
00:37:20.137 --> 00:37:23.040
I'M NOT A A PRE MED MAJOR I WAS
00:37:23.107 --> 00:37:24.775
BUSINESS MAJOR -- BUT IN ORANGE
00:37:24.842 --> 00:37:26.377
COUNTY WHEN I WAS SUPERVISOR WE
00:37:26.444 --> 00:37:28.145
HAD.
00:37:28.212 --> 00:37:29.447
THE SCHIZOPHRENIC HOMELESS YOUNG
00:37:29.513 --> 00:37:32.516
MAN -- TRAGICALLY KILLED.
00:37:32.583 --> 00:37:34.385
OUT IN A POLICING COUNTER.
00:37:34.452 --> 00:37:35.953
AND IT WAS IRONIC BECAUSE HIS
00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:38.189
FATHER WAS A POLICE OFFICER TO
00:37:38.255 --> 00:37:38.489
AND IT WAS.
00:37:38.556 --> 00:37:39.223
A BIG.
00:37:39.290 --> 00:37:42.893
A BIG DEAL KELLY THOMAS SORT OF
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.929
BECAME.
00:37:44.996 --> 00:37:46.197
I BECAUSE FOR ME TO DO A LOT
00:37:46.263 --> 00:37:50.134
MORE RESEARCH ON MENTAL HEALTH.
00:37:50.201 --> 00:37:52.970
AND LAWRENCE Là IN GETTING
00:37:53.037 --> 00:37:53.704
ACQUAINTED WITH GERALD STEINBERG
00:37:53.771 --> 00:37:56.874
AND DOING SB FIVE EIGHTY FIVE IN.
00:37:56.941 --> 00:37:57.475
TRYING TO GET SOME FUNDING FOR
00:37:57.541 --> 00:37:59.744
THAT AND AND SO I'M NOT UP TO
00:37:59.810 --> 00:38:02.913
THE LEVEL OF A KNOWLEDGE SAID
00:38:02.980 --> 00:38:04.215
SENATOR BELL IS AS THE CHAIRMAN
00:38:04.281 --> 00:38:06.217
OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH CAUCUS --
00:38:06.283 --> 00:38:08.719
BUT I'M TRYING A LITTLE BIT AT A
00:38:08.786 --> 00:38:10.521
TIME AND AND RIGHT NOW I'M
00:38:10.588 --> 00:38:11.355
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE
00:38:11.422 --> 00:38:14.458
LETTERMAN PETROUS ACT SHORT ACT
00:38:14.525 --> 00:38:14.992
LETTERMAN LPS.
00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:16.127
AND IN THE MORE I READ THE MORE
00:38:16.193 --> 00:38:19.130
DISAPPOINTED AND WORRIED I AM --
00:38:19.196 --> 00:38:22.366
IT SEEMS TO HAVE -- NOT BEEN THE
00:38:22.433 --> 00:38:25.336
RIGHT SOLUTION BY TAKING SO MANY.
00:38:25.403 --> 00:38:27.304
INDIVIDUALS OUT OF INSTITUTIONS
00:38:27.371 --> 00:38:29.507
IN THE LATE SEVENTIES.
00:38:29.573 --> 00:38:30.207
IT WAS A BILL THAT WAS A
00:38:30.274 --> 00:38:31.542
DEMOCRAT BILL BUT IT WAS SIGNED
00:38:31.609 --> 00:38:32.877
BY RONALD REAGAN.
00:38:32.943 --> 00:38:34.745
BUT THESE INDIVIDUALS REMOVED
00:38:34.812 --> 00:38:36.414
OUT OF THE INSTITUTIONS AND THEY
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:37.148
WENT TO THE STREETS AND THEN
00:38:37.214 --> 00:38:38.015
THEY WENT.
00:38:38.082 --> 00:38:39.884
AND BECAME INCARCERATED SO NOW
00:38:39.950 --> 00:38:41.285
THEY YOUR WE'RE TAKING CARE OF
00:38:41.352 --> 00:38:42.720
THEM IN A DIFFERENT.
00:38:42.787 --> 00:38:45.456
INSTITUTION AND SO.
00:38:45.523 --> 00:38:47.825
I I WHEN I WHEN I SAW THIS ITEM
00:38:47.892 --> 00:38:49.427
I I THOUGHT THIS IS GREAT
00:38:49.493 --> 00:38:52.563
REFUSING SOME OF THE IMAGE AS A
00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:53.597
FUNDING.
00:38:53.664 --> 00:38:55.533
FOR THOSE ARE INCARCERATED OR
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:56.701
RELATED TO THOSE ARE
00:38:56.767 --> 00:38:58.069
INCARCERATED PARENTS CERTAINLY
00:38:58.135 --> 00:38:59.603
NEED SUPPORT GROUPS.
00:38:59.670 --> 00:39:01.672
AS WELL WHEN YOU KNOW YOU JUST
00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:03.674
NEED ONE FRIEND IS A I WAS
00:39:03.741 --> 00:39:04.842
DRIVING DOWN TESTABLE OF ART I
00:39:04.909 --> 00:39:06.343
SAW MY DAUGHTER FOR THE FIRST
00:39:06.410 --> 00:39:08.746
TIME IN TWO YEARS.
00:39:08.813 --> 00:39:10.614
YOU KNOW YOU START TO REALIZE
00:39:10.681 --> 00:39:12.750
THIS GUY'S A DOCTOR.
00:39:12.817 --> 00:39:14.585
IN ANSWER ALL MY GOODNESS.
00:39:14.652 --> 00:39:16.487
WHAT'S GOING ON IF YOU START TO
00:39:16.554 --> 00:39:18.255
APPRECIATE THAT FAMILIES NEED TO
00:39:18.322 --> 00:39:19.824
FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AS
00:39:19.890 --> 00:39:21.425
WELL AND AND SO.
00:39:21.492 --> 00:39:22.393
MAYBE YOU HAVE THE NOSE UNDER
00:39:22.460 --> 00:39:23.728
THE TENT I WAS KIND OF SAN I'D
00:39:23.794 --> 00:39:25.629
LIKE TO GET THE WHOLE CAMEL.
00:39:25.696 --> 00:39:27.531
INTO THAT.
00:39:27.598 --> 00:39:28.766
TEN BECAUSE THIS IS FOR THE REAL
00:39:28.833 --> 00:39:30.801
MEAT IS IN THAT AND SOMEHOW WE
00:39:30.868 --> 00:39:33.871
CAN GET THE MAP MHSAA -- TO TO
00:39:33.938 --> 00:39:35.706
HELP IN THIS AREA YOU BECAUSE
00:39:35.773 --> 00:39:37.174
YOU'RE.
00:39:37.241 --> 00:39:39.110
YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF SO MANY OF
00:39:39.176 --> 00:39:41.645
THESE INDIVIDUALS AND I'M.
00:39:41.712 --> 00:39:43.280
SO FOR THE PHASE IN IS FINE BUT
00:39:43.347 --> 00:39:45.883
THE NEED IS NOW -- I'VE A A I
00:39:45.950 --> 00:39:47.118
CAN GO THROUGH A DAY WITHOUT
00:39:47.184 --> 00:39:48.152
SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE
00:39:48.219 --> 00:39:49.820
HOMELESS SITUATION.
00:39:49.887 --> 00:39:51.222
A LAST NIGHT I WAS WATCHING THE
00:39:51.288 --> 00:39:53.290
NEWS HERE LOCALLY IN
00:39:53.357 --> 00:39:54.358
SOMEONE FROM THE BUSINESS
00:39:54.425 --> 00:39:55.493
COMMUNITY SAID YEAH WE HAD A
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.094
MAJOR CORPORATION I WAS GONNA
00:39:57.161 --> 00:39:58.996
MOVE TO SACRAMENTO.
00:39:59.063 --> 00:40:00.498
AND THEN THEY SAID ONE NIGHT
00:40:00.564 --> 00:40:02.166
HAVE IT'S GOING TO A KINGS GAME.
00:40:02.233 --> 00:40:04.034
THEY WENT TO THE KINGS GAME AND
00:40:04.101 --> 00:40:05.002
THEN WHEN THEY LEFT THIS ALL
00:40:05.069 --> 00:40:06.670
THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE WALKING
00:40:06.737 --> 00:40:07.371
AROUND THEY SAID.
00:40:07.438 --> 00:40:10.040
WE CAN PUT OUR COMPANY HERE
00:40:10.107 --> 00:40:10.341
[inaudible]
00:40:10.407 --> 00:40:13.110
THE FACT.
00:40:13.177 --> 00:40:14.178
THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME EVER
00:40:14.245 --> 00:40:16.413
TO STORY OF THAT NATURE.
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.150
SO AS TO THERE'S A WE'VE GOT A
00:40:19.216 --> 00:40:20.217
WE GOT TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE
00:40:20.284 --> 00:40:22.219
WITH MHSAA -- AND SO I'D LOVE TO
00:40:22.286 --> 00:40:23.754
DO A HEARING I'D LOVE.
00:40:23.821 --> 00:40:25.055
TO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AN
00:40:25.122 --> 00:40:28.492
AUDIT ON THE L. P. -- AS A THE
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.127
ACTIVE YOUNG I'M I'M I'M NOT
00:40:30.194 --> 00:40:32.096
HAPPY WITH WHAT I'M DOING WITH
00:40:32.163 --> 00:40:33.063
MY OWN INDEPENDENT RESEARCH I'M
00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:34.698
NOT WHAT I'M FINDING IS VERY
00:40:34.765 --> 00:40:36.433
DISTURBING AND AND AND I'M GOING
00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:38.402
BACK TO THE LATE SEVENTIES
00:40:38.469 --> 00:40:41.071
EIGHTIES -- AND AND SO THERE'S A
00:40:41.138 --> 00:40:43.340
LOT WE CAN DO AND THANK YOU FOR
00:40:43.407 --> 00:40:44.408
LETTING ME DUMP IT ALL ON YOUR
00:40:44.475 --> 00:40:44.775
PLATE.
00:40:44.842 --> 00:40:48.879
MADAM CHAIR -- BUT THAT'S WHY
00:40:48.946 --> 00:40:50.581
OUR PROGRAM INTRIGUED BY THIS
00:40:50.648 --> 00:40:51.982
ITEM THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
00:40:52.049 --> 00:40:53.350
PULL IT AND THANK YOU.
00:40:53.417 --> 00:40:54.785
FOR LET ME TRY.
00:40:54.852 --> 00:40:56.921
TO DOUBLE IT UP [inaudible]
00:40:56.987 --> 00:40:58.556
TOTALLY.
00:40:58.622 --> 00:40:59.657
SENATOR BILL I THINK IT'S WORTH
00:40:59.723 --> 00:41:02.626
MORE DISCUSSION AND ALSO ON THIS
00:41:02.693 --> 00:41:03.494
COMMITTEE -- GROUPS ARE MORE
00:41:03.561 --> 00:41:07.231
LIKE -- THE MIDDLE ILL.
00:41:07.298 --> 00:41:08.566
PART OF THE CORRECTIONS
00:41:08.632 --> 00:41:10.234
DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THEBIGGEST
00:41:10.301 --> 00:41:12.770
COST DRIVERS IN OUR BUDGET
00:41:12.837 --> 00:41:13.904
INCREASE IN THIS.
00:41:13.971 --> 00:41:15.906
AREA SO.
00:41:15.973 --> 00:41:18.809
SINCE IT IS SUCH A HUGE COST
00:41:18.876 --> 00:41:21.812
DRIVER IN TERMS OF THE COST OF
00:41:21.879 --> 00:41:24.381
PROVIDING -- CRIMINAL JUSTICE
00:41:24.448 --> 00:41:25.549
SERVICES CENTER CORRECTIONS
00:41:25.616 --> 00:41:26.817
DEPARTMENT.
00:41:26.884 --> 00:41:28.586
IT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE MAIN
00:41:28.652 --> 00:41:30.821
FOCUSES OF THIS COMMITTEE.
00:41:30.888 --> 00:41:33.891
MY OPINION BECAUSE IT IS COSTING
00:41:33.958 --> 00:41:36.093
IT THE BUDGET INCREASES.
00:41:36.160 --> 00:41:37.328
WELL IN ANSWER WHY ARE WE HAVING
00:41:37.394 --> 00:41:39.830
INCREASES WHEN THE POPULATION
00:41:39.897 --> 00:41:40.130
[inaudible]
00:41:40.197 --> 00:41:43.801
OF THE INMATE POPULATION IS
00:41:43.868 --> 00:41:46.403
EITHER STABLE OR GOING DOWN.
00:41:46.470 --> 00:41:47.905
WELLS BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER
00:41:47.972 --> 00:41:50.941
NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT REQUIRE.
00:41:51.008 --> 00:41:52.877
TREATMENT -- YOU KNOW OTHER
00:41:52.943 --> 00:41:55.246
FACTORS LIKE AGING BUT WE'RE
00:41:55.312 --> 00:41:56.313
GOING TO FIND OUT A FEW MINUTES
00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:57.648
BUT YOU KNOW.
00:41:57.715 --> 00:41:59.083
THE MENTAL ILLNESS PART HAS
00:41:59.149 --> 00:42:01.385
NEVER BEEN.
00:42:01.452 --> 00:42:03.420
IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY ANALYZE
00:42:03.487 --> 00:42:05.990
IN TERMS OF HOW WHAT KIND OF
00:42:06.056 --> 00:42:08.125
ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE.
00:42:08.192 --> 00:42:10.094
TO ATTACK THE COST DRIVERS THAT
00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:12.229
WE HAVE HERE THE COST INCREASED
00:42:12.296 --> 00:42:12.930
DRIVER.
00:42:12.997 --> 00:42:14.632
YOUR YOU HAVE TO GO AFTER THOSE
00:42:14.698 --> 00:42:16.533
POSH DRIVERS.
00:42:16.600 --> 00:42:18.969
FIND OUT WHAT YOU CAN DO.
00:42:19.036 --> 00:42:20.504
SO FROM OF THEY JUST DID A
00:42:20.571 --> 00:42:21.605
SURVEY AND THEY FOUND THAT.
00:42:21.672 --> 00:42:22.806
CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO HAS THE
00:42:22.873 --> 00:42:27.144
MOST -- BEING BILLIONAIRES PER
00:42:27.211 --> 00:42:29.213
PER CAPITA.
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.781
AND SO THE MILLIONAIRES AND MY
00:42:30.848 --> 00:42:32.816
DISTRICT OR SAND WHAT AM I
00:42:32.883 --> 00:42:35.119
GETTING FOR MY 1%.
00:42:35.185 --> 00:42:35.953
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
00:42:36.020 --> 00:42:36.854
BILLIONAIRE'S SAM CISCO ARE
00:42:36.921 --> 00:42:38.322
SAYING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE
00:42:38.389 --> 00:42:39.556
APPS.
00:42:39.623 --> 00:42:42.393
TO FIGURE OUT WHERE NOT TO WALK.
00:42:42.459 --> 00:42:42.960
YOU KNOW SO.
00:42:43.027 --> 00:42:44.628
WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
00:42:44.695 --> 00:42:46.997
I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO NOT
00:42:47.064 --> 00:42:47.631
BE DOING PHASE INS WE NEED TO BE
00:42:47.698 --> 00:42:48.265
DOING [inaudible]
00:42:48.332 --> 00:42:50.267
YOU KNOW.
00:42:50.334 --> 00:42:52.503
AND IF THE THE THE PROP SIXTY
00:42:52.569 --> 00:42:54.405
THREE OR IF WITH ALL THE IPOS
00:42:54.471 --> 00:42:55.906
ARE GOING THIS YEAR IT SEEMS
00:42:55.973 --> 00:42:56.807
LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE HAVE A
00:42:56.874 --> 00:42:57.041
LITTLE.
00:42:57.107 --> 00:42:58.776
BUMPER CROP SO WE SHOULD BE
00:42:58.842 --> 00:43:02.012
FIGURING OUT QUICKLY WHAT TO DO
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.114
WITH THOSE FUNDS.
00:43:04.181 --> 00:43:08.419
SO ARE VERY.
00:43:08.485 --> 00:43:09.954
THIS WAS A IMPORTANT WILL NEED A
00:43:10.020 --> 00:43:11.088
DISCUSSION.
00:43:11.155 --> 00:43:14.658
WELL IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY.
00:43:14.725 --> 00:43:17.194
GIVE US A ROADMAP YET WE
00:43:17.261 --> 00:43:20.464
CERTAINLY -- CAN GIVE IT MORE
00:43:20.531 --> 00:43:22.266
TIME WHEN WE'RE NOT UNDER THE
00:43:22.333 --> 00:43:23.667
CONSTITUTIONAL PRESSURE OF
00:43:23.734 --> 00:43:25.169
ADOPTED THE BUDGET BY JUNE
00:43:25.235 --> 00:43:27.204
FIFTEENTH BUT ALL TAKE THE
00:43:27.271 --> 00:43:30.808
MOTION NOW TO PROOF AS BUDGETED
00:43:30.874 --> 00:43:32.543
AS SENATOR MORE LACK.
00:43:32.609 --> 00:43:35.079
HAVE MADE AND WE WILL.
00:43:35.145 --> 00:43:37.982
DEFINITELY -- FIGURE OUT.
00:43:38.048 --> 00:43:39.950
NEXT STEPS WHEN WE ARE PASS THIS
00:43:40.017 --> 00:43:41.618
PERIOD.
00:43:41.685 --> 00:43:44.922
OKAY SO LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.
00:43:44.989 --> 00:43:47.424
CENTER SKINNER BY SENATOR
00:43:47.491 --> 00:43:49.393
MORLOCK SENATOR BELL
00:43:49.460 --> 00:43:49.693
[inaudible]
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.162
OKAY.
00:43:52.229 --> 00:43:55.165
THAT -- ITEM THAT ISSUE FIVE IS
00:43:55.232 --> 00:43:57.301
APPROVED AND WE WILL NOW.
00:43:57.368 --> 00:44:01.305
GO -- TO ISSUE.
00:44:01.372 --> 00:44:02.740
SEVEN AND THAT IS UNDER AGAIN
00:44:02.806 --> 00:44:03.874
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
00:44:03.941 --> 00:44:05.309
AND REHABILITATION IT IS THE
00:44:05.376 --> 00:44:06.343
RECEIVERS.
00:44:06.410 --> 00:44:08.712
MEDICAL CLASSIFICATION MODEL
00:44:08.779 --> 00:44:11.048
UPDATE.
00:44:11.115 --> 00:44:16.053
AND IT IS -- TO APPROPRIATE --
00:44:16.120 --> 00:44:17.621
TWENTY SEVEN POINT NINE MILLION.
00:44:17.688 --> 00:44:19.690
AND A HUNDRED AND TWO POSITIONS
00:44:19.757 --> 00:44:23.694
IN. TWENTY NINETEEN TWENTY TO
00:44:23.761 --> 00:44:24.895
INCREASE STAFFING LEVELS FOR
00:44:24.962 --> 00:44:26.096
HEALTH CARE OPERATIONS
00:44:26.163 --> 00:44:27.731
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA'S PRISON
00:44:27.798 --> 00:44:28.732
SYSTEM.
00:44:28.799 --> 00:44:30.801
WE HAVE OUR RECEIVER HERE AND
00:44:30.868 --> 00:44:33.237
SOME OTHER FOLKS WE INTRODUCE
00:44:33.303 --> 00:44:34.171
YOURSELVES YOU CAN PERCENT THE
00:44:34.238 --> 00:44:34.371
ITEM.
00:44:34.438 --> 00:44:36.106
GOOD MORNING -- SYSTEM TO BE
00:44:36.173 --> 00:44:39.510
DIRECTED TO WIN READER FOR C.
00:44:39.576 --> 00:44:44.114
CCS -- I ALSO HAVE -- PART
00:44:44.181 --> 00:44:45.616
COUNCIL RECEIVER IN MY HAND WITH
00:44:45.682 --> 00:44:46.617
ME DOCTOR WHEN THEY CAME IN ON
00:44:46.683 --> 00:44:53.390
THE ITEM NUMBER -- SEVEN THIS IS --
00:44:53.457 --> 00:44:56.026
AN ITEM THAT REFLECTS AN UPDATE
00:44:56.093 --> 00:44:58.729
TO THE MODEL THAT WE USE -- OF
00:44:58.796 --> 00:45:00.464
FOR DETERMINING NUMBER OF
00:45:00.531 --> 00:45:02.699
MEDICAL POSITIONS -- IT IS A
00:45:02.766 --> 00:45:05.002
MODEL THAT WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED
00:45:05.069 --> 00:45:06.603
ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO.
00:45:06.670 --> 00:45:08.338
I'M WORRIED TRYING TO BE A MODEL
00:45:08.405 --> 00:45:10.908
OUR STAFFING BASED UPON THE
00:45:10.974 --> 00:45:15.045
ACUITY LEVEL OF OUR A PATIENT
00:45:15.112 --> 00:45:18.248
POPULATION -- WE HAVE SINCE THEM
00:45:18.315 --> 00:45:19.683
ON HAVE.
00:45:19.750 --> 00:45:21.185
I'M MORE EXPERIENCE WITH -- HOW
00:45:21.251 --> 00:45:22.719
WELL THAT MODEL HAS WORKED ON
00:45:22.786 --> 00:45:24.655
SOME OF ITS SHORTCOMINGS --
00:45:24.721 --> 00:45:26.490
WE'VE LEARNED MORE FROM HAVING
00:45:26.557 --> 00:45:28.125
THE ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORD
00:45:28.192 --> 00:45:29.393
THAT IS HELP US BETTER
00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:30.360
UNDERSTAND.
00:45:30.427 --> 00:45:33.730
OF THE NEEDS OF OUR POPULATION.
00:45:33.797 --> 00:45:35.299
AND THE THE THIS PARTICULAR
00:45:35.365 --> 00:45:37.101
PROPOSAL ESSENTIALLY MY
00:45:37.167 --> 00:45:39.369
RECOGNIZES THAT WE ARE
00:45:39.436 --> 00:45:42.072
UNDERSTAFFED IN A FEW AREAS.
00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:44.675
IN PARTICULAR -- BUT WE DID NOT
00:45:44.741 --> 00:45:46.810
A WHEN WE INITIALLY - BUT FOR
00:45:46.877 --> 00:45:49.446
THE MODEL FIVE YEARS AGO -- HAVE
00:45:49.513 --> 00:45:51.515
IN THE JUST ONE FORM OF FEMALE
00:45:51.582 --> 00:45:52.616
PATIENTS.
00:45:52.683 --> 00:45:57.621
AND IT'S WELL RECOGNIZED THE
00:45:57.688 --> 00:45:59.156
THERE IS A GREATER A STAFFING
00:45:59.223 --> 00:46:01.291
NEED A TO DEAL WITH A FEMALE
00:46:01.358 --> 00:46:03.794
POPULATION ON THE MAIL -- SO WE
00:46:03.861 --> 00:46:06.630
NEEDED TO INCREASE ON ALLOCATION
00:46:06.697 --> 00:46:08.198
FOR OF THE FEMALE ON
00:46:08.265 --> 00:46:09.333
INSTITUTIONS.
00:46:09.399 --> 00:46:11.034
WE ALSO DO NOT -- TAKE INTO
00:46:11.101 --> 00:46:13.370
ACCOUNT WORKLOAD ASSOCIATED WITH
00:46:13.437 --> 00:46:17.274
PATIENTS WHO ARE DISABLED.
00:46:17.341 --> 00:46:18.308
AND WE DID NOT APPROPRIATELY
00:46:18.375 --> 00:46:21.178
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE AGING OF
00:46:21.245 --> 00:46:23.380
THE PRISON POPULATION ON INMATES
00:46:23.447 --> 00:46:26.984
OVER -- FIFTY IN AND BASED UPON
00:46:27.050 --> 00:46:28.619
NEW INFORMATION THAT WE LOOKED
00:46:28.685 --> 00:46:30.287
AT IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WE
00:46:30.354 --> 00:46:31.655
DECIDED WE NEEDED TO HAVE AN
00:46:31.722 --> 00:46:33.690
INCREASE.
00:46:33.757 --> 00:46:35.526
IN THOSE OUT LOCATIONS.
00:46:35.592 --> 00:46:37.161
THAT WAS THE FIRST IN A PRIMARY
00:46:37.227 --> 00:46:40.230
CARE SERVICES SECOND WE REALIZE
00:46:40.297 --> 00:46:42.366
THAT -- WE HAVE WITH OUR AGING
00:46:42.432 --> 00:46:44.501
POPULATION IN PARTICULAR A LOT
00:46:44.568 --> 00:46:46.870
OF SERIOUSLY ILL PATIENTS WHO
00:46:46.937 --> 00:46:51.642
HAVE VERY COMPLEX MEDICAL NEEDS --
00:46:51.708 --> 00:46:53.677
AND WE NOW HAVE REALIZE WE NEED
00:46:53.744 --> 00:46:55.078
TO HAVE -- AN INCREASE IN
00:46:55.145 --> 00:46:58.882
ALLOCATIONS FOR THOSE PATIENTS.
00:46:58.949 --> 00:47:00.450
AND THEN -- FINALLY -- ANCILLARY
00:47:00.517 --> 00:47:05.322
STAFF WHO SUPPORT OUR PROVIDERS --
00:47:05.389 --> 00:47:07.391
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
00:47:07.457 --> 00:47:08.825
ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORD AND
00:47:08.892 --> 00:47:11.094
WORKLOAD ADJUSTMENTS ASSOCIATED
00:47:11.161 --> 00:47:13.463
WITH THAT ARE DRIVING THE NEED
00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:17.367
FOR A CHANGE IN -- OUR ANCILLARY
00:47:17.434 --> 00:47:19.770
STAFF -- SO THE THAT'S THE BASIS
00:47:19.836 --> 00:47:23.073
OF FOR THE THE REQUEST.
00:47:23.140 --> 00:47:26.777
FOR AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE MEDICAL
00:47:26.843 --> 00:47:30.080
CLASSIFICATION MODEL.
00:47:30.147 --> 00:47:32.983
I KNOW THE LA -- SO ORIGINALLY.
00:47:33.050 --> 00:47:33.984
OR NOT ORIGNALLY THAT'S AN
00:47:34.051 --> 00:47:37.654
INACCURATE WHEN WE WERE FIRST --
00:47:37.721 --> 00:47:41.124
DEVELOPING THE AGENDA.
00:47:41.191 --> 00:47:42.526
FOR THIS HEARING WE WERE GONNA
00:47:42.593 --> 00:47:44.027
HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS
00:47:44.094 --> 00:47:45.963
HOWEVER WE ARE NOW HAVING A
00:47:46.029 --> 00:47:50.434
DISCUSSION CLEARLY BUT WE HAD --
00:47:50.500 --> 00:47:53.170
STAFF NINE GOING THROUGH.
00:47:53.237 --> 00:47:56.506
THE ITEMS -- BECAUSE THIS IS AN
00:47:56.573 --> 00:47:58.675
ITEM FROM THE RECEIVER.
00:47:58.742 --> 00:48:02.813
AND IN SOME RESPECTS DUE TO THE
00:48:02.879 --> 00:48:04.781
COURT ORDERED THE RECEIVER HAS
00:48:04.848 --> 00:48:08.151
THE ABILITY TO TO ACT ON SUCH
00:48:08.218 --> 00:48:12.923
THINGS -- INDEPENDENT OF OF THE
00:48:12.990 --> 00:48:14.658
LEGISLATURE'S APPROVAL
00:48:14.725 --> 00:48:14.958
[inaudible]
00:48:15.025 --> 00:48:18.862
AND THE PAST INFORMATION BASED
00:48:18.929 --> 00:48:23.033
ON THE STEPPING ALLOCATION
00:48:23.100 --> 00:48:25.636
SYSTEMS THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE.
00:48:25.702 --> 00:48:26.970
HAVE NOW.
00:48:27.037 --> 00:48:29.406
SHOWN AS SAID THE RECEIVER'S
00:48:29.473 --> 00:48:31.375
INDICATED AS A NOW -- GIVEN US A
00:48:31.441 --> 00:48:33.944
BETTER BETTER INFORMATION ABOUT
00:48:34.011 --> 00:48:35.412
THE POPULATION WE'RE SERVING.
00:48:35.479 --> 00:48:37.514
AND THEIR NEEDS AND IDENTIFIED
00:48:37.581 --> 00:48:38.915
WHICH I THINK MOST OF US
00:48:38.982 --> 00:48:41.151
PROBABLY COULD'VE WITHOUT EVEN.
00:48:41.218 --> 00:48:43.587
NECESSARILY HAVING THE DATA TO
00:48:43.654 --> 00:48:45.822
KNOW THAT OUR POPULATION IS
00:48:45.889 --> 00:48:47.357
GETTING OLDER.
00:48:47.424 --> 00:48:49.893
AND THAT -- IT JUST AS THE
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:51.662
GENERAL POPULATION.
00:48:51.728 --> 00:48:54.298
THE HEALTH NEEDS ARE MEDICAL
00:48:54.364 --> 00:48:56.466
REQUIREMENTS INCREASE.
00:48:56.533 --> 00:49:00.604
AND SO I DO TO THAT -- WE
00:49:00.671 --> 00:49:03.006
ELECTED TO PUT IT ON OTER ONLY.
00:49:03.073 --> 00:49:05.409
BUT THE LA -- HAD -- SOME
00:49:05.475 --> 00:49:06.943
OPINIONS SO I'M GONNA LET LA --
00:49:07.010 --> 00:49:09.913
EXPRESS THOSE AND CLEARLY SINCE
00:49:09.980 --> 00:49:11.214
WE PULL THAT WE CAN HAVE A
00:49:11.281 --> 00:49:11.581
DISCUSSION NOW.
00:49:11.648 --> 00:49:13.483
GO AHEAD.
00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:15.085
THANK YOU LOU KOOSH MORROW THE
00:49:15.152 --> 00:49:16.586
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE.
00:49:16.653 --> 00:49:17.821
WE WOULD NOTE THAT THE
00:49:17.888 --> 00:49:19.189
MEDICATION CLASSIFICATION MAHLER
00:49:19.256 --> 00:49:20.557
CURRENTLY IN PLACE DOES TAKE
00:49:20.624 --> 00:49:21.992
INTO ACCOUNT THE CUTIE AND
00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:24.594
POPULATION OF THE INMATE
00:49:24.661 --> 00:49:26.096
POPULATION.
00:49:26.163 --> 00:49:27.798
OUR CONCERNS ARE.
00:49:27.864 --> 00:49:29.499
WHETHER THAT DATA IT IS
00:49:29.566 --> 00:49:31.001
SUFFICIENT TO ADJUST THAT MODEL
00:49:31.068 --> 00:49:34.071
CURRENTLY -- WE NOTE THAT THE
00:49:34.137 --> 00:49:35.739
COURT YOUR EXPENDITURES FOR
00:49:35.806 --> 00:49:37.407
MEDICAL CARE HAVE EXCEEDED THE
00:49:37.474 --> 00:49:39.142
AMOUNT THAT THE MEDICATION
00:49:39.209 --> 00:49:39.743
PROSECUTION MODEL WOULD HAVE
00:49:39.810 --> 00:49:41.044
PROVIDED.
00:49:41.111 --> 00:49:43.180
HOWEVER EMPIRE YOURS THE AMOUNT
00:49:43.246 --> 00:49:46.583
RIGHT IT HAS TO BE SUFFICIENT.
00:49:46.650 --> 00:49:48.218
WE ALSO NOTE THAT THAT UPDATED
00:49:48.285 --> 00:49:49.653
DATA PRESENT IN THE PROPOSAL IS
00:49:49.720 --> 00:49:50.854
GENERALLY OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF
00:49:50.921 --> 00:49:51.655
TIME.
00:49:51.722 --> 00:49:53.056
ON TO THAT SHOP AT THE TIME THAT
00:49:53.123 --> 00:49:55.025
THAT ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD
00:49:55.092 --> 00:49:55.926
SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
00:49:55.992 --> 00:49:58.028
WE RECOMMEND APPROVING THE
00:49:58.095 --> 00:50:00.597
FUNDING ON A ONE TIME BASIS TO
00:50:00.664 --> 00:50:01.665
MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CURRENT
00:50:01.732 --> 00:50:04.134
YOUR AND ABOUT YOUR AND ALLOW
00:50:04.201 --> 00:50:05.569
TIME.
00:50:05.635 --> 00:50:06.937
TO COLLECT MORE DATA AND ANALYZE
00:50:07.003 --> 00:50:09.239
WHETHER THE ADJUSTMENTS BEING
00:50:09.306 --> 00:50:11.908
MADE OF WOOD SO -- SUFFICIENTLY
00:50:11.975 --> 00:50:13.110
MEET THE MEDICAL NEEDS OF THE
00:50:13.176 --> 00:50:15.345
POPULATION AND DO SO ON A
00:50:15.412 --> 00:50:17.047
SUSTAINABLE WAY ALL OF THE OTHER.
00:50:17.114 --> 00:50:17.647
DIFFERENT ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE
00:50:17.714 --> 00:50:18.048
NEEDED [inaudible]
00:50:18.115 --> 00:50:19.683
THANK YOU.
00:50:19.750 --> 00:50:21.184
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE
00:50:21.251 --> 00:50:23.120
TO DO A ONE TIME ONLY VERSUS ON
00:50:23.186 --> 00:50:23.553
GOING.
00:50:23.620 --> 00:50:26.123
YES THAT'S CORRECT AND WE
00:50:26.189 --> 00:50:27.591
RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE POSITIONS
00:50:27.657 --> 00:50:29.192
COULD BE HARD TO FILL HOWEVER WE
00:50:29.259 --> 00:50:30.260
NOTE THAT.
00:50:30.327 --> 00:50:32.028
IN THE PAST THE RECEIVER HAS
00:50:32.095 --> 00:50:33.430
MADE UP FOR VACANCIES THROUGH
00:50:33.497 --> 00:50:35.632
USING REGISTRY SERVICES TO
00:50:35.699 --> 00:50:40.470
PROVIDE SERVICES -- YEAH ON MY
00:50:40.537 --> 00:50:41.838
WHEN YOU WERE.
00:50:41.905 --> 00:50:44.641
SO VERY COMMONLY WE HAVE.
00:50:44.708 --> 00:50:46.410
ITEMS BEFORE US THAT ARE
00:50:46.476 --> 00:50:48.111
APPROVING ONE TIME OR PROVING
00:50:48.178 --> 00:50:49.813
TEMPORARY.
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.282
AND NOT IN ALL CASES BUT VERY
00:50:52.349 --> 00:50:54.284
OFTEN THOSE ARE FINE -- FOR
00:50:54.351 --> 00:50:55.986
POSITIONS THAT ARE FAR LESS
00:50:56.052 --> 00:50:58.155
TECHNICAL THAN HERE HERE WERE
00:50:58.221 --> 00:51:01.825
ACTUALLY -- IT SEEMS DIFFICULT.
00:51:01.892 --> 00:51:04.094
WELL I APPRECIATE THE LA SHOWS --
00:51:04.161 --> 00:51:05.562
WHAT THEY'VE RAISED ABOUT IN THE
00:51:05.629 --> 00:51:07.798
PAST WE WEREN'T EXCEEDING THE
00:51:07.864 --> 00:51:09.166
FUNDING ALLOCATION BUT WE DID
00:51:09.232 --> 00:51:10.200
THIS YEAR?
00:51:10.267 --> 00:51:12.169
THAT RATHER THAN JUST ASSUMING
00:51:12.235 --> 00:51:13.570
WE ALWAYS WELL.
00:51:13.637 --> 00:51:15.105
ON THE OTHER HAND.
00:51:15.172 --> 00:51:16.606
THESE ARE NOT POSITIONS THAT ARE
00:51:16.673 --> 00:51:19.209
EASY TO FILL IN JEST ESPECIALLY
00:51:19.276 --> 00:51:21.344
FOR SAYING OKAY SIR -- FOR
00:51:21.411 --> 00:51:22.813
TWELVE MONTHS ONLY.
00:51:22.879 --> 00:51:25.382
AND IT COULD BE THAT.
00:51:25.449 --> 00:51:26.950
THEY DON'T EVEN GET FILLED RIGHT
00:51:27.017 --> 00:51:28.952
AWAY AND SO THEN HOW DO WE EVEN
00:51:29.019 --> 00:51:31.755
MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT SO.
00:51:31.822 --> 00:51:33.557
BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THE
00:51:33.623 --> 00:51:36.159
RECEIVER COMMENT AND THEN SEE IF
00:51:36.226 --> 00:51:37.694
MY COLLEAGUES SEVENTY COMMENTS.
00:51:37.761 --> 00:51:38.595
THANK YOU MA'AM SURE I AGREE
00:51:38.662 --> 00:51:40.363
WITH YOU THESE ME VERY DIFFICULT
00:51:40.430 --> 00:51:42.399
FILL ON A LIMITED TERM BASIS --
00:51:42.466 --> 00:51:44.067
SOME OF THESE WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE
00:51:44.134 --> 00:51:45.402
FOR ALL.
00:51:45.469 --> 00:51:46.236
ARM WHICH YOU PUT ME IN A
00:51:46.303 --> 00:51:48.338
POSITION OF HAVING TO THE SIDE
00:51:48.405 --> 00:51:49.906
WORLD WHAT DO I DO AND THE WHITE.
00:51:49.973 --> 00:51:52.042
EXPAND THE USE OF REGISTRY ONE
00:51:52.108 --> 00:51:54.311
HOW DO I RESPOND TO THAT SO I I
00:51:54.377 --> 00:51:55.979
THINK A ONE YEAR FUNDING OF
00:51:56.046 --> 00:51:57.247
SIMPLY FOR THESE TYPE OF
00:51:57.314 --> 00:51:59.950
POSITIONS DOESN'T WORK -- I
00:52:00.016 --> 00:52:04.087
WOULD NOTED -- IN ADDITION -- IN
00:52:04.154 --> 00:52:05.455
THE IF THIS GIVES APPROVED OF
00:52:05.522 --> 00:52:06.990
THE WAY TO THE AND ACTUALLY GET
00:52:07.057 --> 00:52:08.325
BUDGET SAVINGS.
00:52:08.391 --> 00:52:10.894
IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF WOMEN
00:52:10.961 --> 00:52:11.862
WHO ARE INCARCERATED.
00:52:11.928 --> 00:52:14.030
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
00:52:14.097 --> 00:52:16.500
ARE DYING IN PRISON -- AFTER
00:52:16.566 --> 00:52:18.969
HAVING GONE THROUGH EXPENSIVE
00:52:19.035 --> 00:52:21.104
MEDICAL TREATMENT.
00:52:21.171 --> 00:52:26.476
OF FIGURE OUT HOW -- TO STOP
00:52:26.543 --> 00:52:27.844
HAVING THEM OF THESE MOST
00:52:27.911 --> 00:52:29.846
VULNERABLE AND EXPENSE OF PEOPLE
00:52:29.913 --> 00:52:32.182
IN PRISON -- I THINK THAT
00:52:32.249 --> 00:52:34.518
ACTUALLY ON IT IS A BETTER
00:52:34.584 --> 00:52:35.519
SOLUTION.
00:52:35.585 --> 00:52:37.754
THEM -- HAVING US TRY TO DO THIS
00:52:37.821 --> 00:52:40.757
ON A ONE TIME BASIS.
00:52:40.824 --> 00:52:42.158
ON THAT NOTE.
00:52:42.225 --> 00:52:46.062
LET US LET US -- OKAY LET'S DO
00:52:46.129 --> 00:52:47.464
SOME CONJECTURE.
00:52:47.531 --> 00:52:50.200
LET'S SAY WE WERE.
00:52:50.267 --> 00:52:53.270
TO RE VISIT OUR MEDICAL PAROLE
00:52:53.336 --> 00:52:56.039
ON OUR ELDERLY PAROLE --
00:52:56.106 --> 00:52:59.209
POLICIES WHICH WERE DESIGNED. TO
00:52:59.276 --> 00:53:03.179
RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAD -- PEOPLE
00:53:03.246 --> 00:53:04.714
IN PRISON THAT WERE VERY
00:53:04.781 --> 00:53:07.717
ADVANCED STAGES AND THAT ALSO IN
00:53:07.784 --> 00:53:10.320
MANY CASES WERE -- COMPUTER
00:53:10.387 --> 00:53:12.589
THERE MANY OF MEDICAL CONDITION
00:53:12.656 --> 00:53:15.892
INCAPACITATED SO FROM A POINT OF
00:53:15.959 --> 00:53:17.661
VIEW OF CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC
00:53:17.727 --> 00:53:20.497
SAFETY IN LITTLE TO NO POSITION
00:53:20.564 --> 00:53:23.466
TO BE A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
00:53:23.533 --> 00:53:25.969
HOWEVER WERE OF A HIGH HIGH COST
00:53:26.036 --> 00:53:27.771
TO THE STATE BY KEEPING THEM IN
00:53:27.837 --> 00:53:29.372
THE WAY THAT.
00:53:29.439 --> 00:53:31.241
THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY HOUSE SO
00:53:31.308 --> 00:53:33.877
LET'S ON THAT CONJECTURE -- IN
00:53:33.944 --> 00:53:36.179
ASSUME THAT WE'VE MADE THOSE
00:53:36.246 --> 00:53:37.447
POLICIES MORE ROBUST.
00:53:37.514 --> 00:53:39.316
AND LET'S SAY THOSE WITHIN THREE
00:53:39.382 --> 00:53:40.317
YEARS WE ARE TO MAKE THOSE
00:53:40.383 --> 00:53:42.285
POLICIES MORE ROBUST AND THEY
00:53:42.352 --> 00:53:44.487
WERE STARTING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
00:53:44.554 --> 00:53:46.890
WOULD DOUBT ARGUES TO APPROVE
00:53:46.957 --> 00:53:48.158
ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE
00:53:48.224 --> 00:53:50.160
PERMANENTLY AS YOU'VE SUGGESTED
00:53:50.226 --> 00:53:52.362
SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS GIVEN.
00:53:52.429 --> 00:53:54.130
THAT SO.
00:53:54.197 --> 00:53:56.366
SO I'M DOING VARIATION NOW SO LA --
00:53:56.433 --> 00:53:58.335
SAID DO IT ONE TIME ONLY I THINK
00:53:58.401 --> 00:54:00.136
WE'VE REYES THAT ONE TIME ONLY
00:54:00.203 --> 00:54:01.671
IS DIFFICULT FOR THE NATURE OF
00:54:01.738 --> 00:54:02.939
THESE TYPE OF POSITIONS.
00:54:03.006 --> 00:54:04.240
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN THE
00:54:04.307 --> 00:54:06.309
PAST WE DIDN'T NEED AS MANY
00:54:06.376 --> 00:54:08.778
EXCEPT FOR THIS YEAR SO.
00:54:08.845 --> 00:54:11.615
IS THERE A HYBRID HERE ARE THERE
00:54:11.681 --> 00:54:13.016
A FEW LESS POSITIONS.
00:54:13.083 --> 00:54:14.718
POTENTIALLY THAT WE NEED FOR
00:54:14.784 --> 00:54:18.254
LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT.
00:54:18.321 --> 00:54:19.456
IT WAS ONLY THIS ONE YEAR.
00:54:19.522 --> 00:54:22.892
THAT WE EXCEEDED OUR THE
00:54:22.959 --> 00:54:25.395
EXPENSES EXCEEDED OUR ALLOCATION --
00:54:25.462 --> 00:54:31.201
MANAGER THE IF IT TURNS OUT THAT --
00:54:31.267 --> 00:54:33.103
THERE ARE REDUCTIONS.
00:54:33.169 --> 00:54:35.038
OF REDUCTIONS IN STAFF WILL
00:54:35.105 --> 00:54:37.607
HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY -- AS PART
00:54:37.674 --> 00:54:41.344
OF THE ON A REGULAR POPULATION
00:54:41.411 --> 00:54:43.213
ADJUSTMENT PROCESS.
00:54:43.279 --> 00:54:49.719
SO -- YOU'RE PROVING PERMANENT
00:54:49.786 --> 00:54:52.455
POSITIONS BOUGHT THEIR SUBJECTS.
00:54:52.522 --> 00:54:54.991
TO OUR POPULATION REDUCTIONS SO
00:54:55.058 --> 00:54:57.293
IT IT NATURALLY WILL HAPPEN THAT
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.496
THERE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN
00:54:59.562 --> 00:55:00.864
STAFF IF IT TURNS OUT THAT.
00:55:00.930 --> 00:55:03.900
WE ARE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME OF OF
00:55:03.967 --> 00:55:05.135
THE THESE.
00:55:05.201 --> 00:55:09.506
WORKLOAD DRIVING POPULATIONS.
00:55:09.572 --> 00:55:11.041
AND IN TERMS OF WHETHER I THINK
00:55:11.107 --> 00:55:11.508
THOSE WHO YOU KNOW.
00:55:11.574 --> 00:55:12.342
IS IT HALF OF THESE THAT WE
00:55:12.409 --> 00:55:13.643
ACTUALLY NEED NO I THINK WE
00:55:13.710 --> 00:55:15.612
ACTUALLY NEED -- EVERYTHING THAT
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.313
WERE ASKING FOR HERE
00:55:17.380 --> 00:55:17.614
[inaudible]
00:55:17.681 --> 00:55:22.485
HELLO. ONE OPTION IF WE WANT TO
00:55:22.552 --> 00:55:23.787
GO FORWARD WITH APPROVING THIS
00:55:23.853 --> 00:55:24.888
IS CHANGE THE METHODOLOGY WOULD
00:55:24.954 --> 00:55:26.256
BE TO REQUIRE REPORTING ON
00:55:26.322 --> 00:55:27.957
ACTUAL USAGE RELATIVE TO WHAT
00:55:28.024 --> 00:55:30.660
THE MODEL IS PROVIDING.
00:55:30.727 --> 00:55:33.029
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO IDENTIFY
00:55:33.096 --> 00:55:35.265
IF THERE IS A MISMATCH IN THE
00:55:35.331 --> 00:55:35.832
FUTURE AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS
00:55:35.899 --> 00:55:36.966
NECESSARY.
00:55:37.033 --> 00:55:39.903
THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
00:55:39.969 --> 00:55:40.570
SENATOR BOB.
00:55:40.637 --> 00:55:42.539
DOLE.
00:55:42.605 --> 00:55:44.641
THIS IS BASED ON THE POPULATION
00:55:44.708 --> 00:55:45.809
RISE OF THESE KIND OF PATIENTS
00:55:45.875 --> 00:55:47.610
CORRECT.
00:55:47.677 --> 00:55:49.312
THE ADDED STAFF THAT YOU'RE A
00:55:49.379 --> 00:55:50.346
WELL THE END OF STAFF IS
00:55:50.413 --> 00:55:52.015
ACTUALLY BECAUSE WE PREVIOUSLY
00:55:52.082 --> 00:55:53.917
DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE HEAVIER
00:55:53.983 --> 00:55:57.187
WORKLOAD. FOR WOMEN YEAH -- BUT
00:55:57.253 --> 00:55:58.722
YES IT'S BASICALLY ONCE IT'S
00:55:58.788 --> 00:56:00.023
BUILT INTO THE MODEL YEAR OF
00:56:00.090 --> 00:56:01.624
OPERATION THE POPULATION IS
00:56:01.691 --> 00:56:03.460
GOING UP -- SO WHEN THE
00:56:03.526 --> 00:56:04.828
POPULATION GOES DOWN WHAT
00:56:04.894 --> 00:56:06.529
HAPPENS YOU LIMITED THESE
00:56:06.596 --> 00:56:07.997
POSITIONS.
00:56:08.064 --> 00:56:10.934
OF WHAT'S WHAT'S THE SITUATION --
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:15.872
HOW HOW WOULD THAT BE AN?
00:56:15.939 --> 00:56:18.007
LOCAL USUALLY -- THE MEDICAL
00:56:18.074 --> 00:56:18.975
SYSTEM WILL HAVE LIKE
00:56:19.042 --> 00:56:19.676
FLUCTUATIONS IN.
00:56:19.743 --> 00:56:21.211
SPECIALLY LIKE AN INPATIENT I
00:56:21.277 --> 00:56:21.778
DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE HAVING
00:56:21.845 --> 00:56:22.812
LIKE A MORE.
00:56:22.879 --> 00:56:25.615
IMPATIENT -- ARE YOU LOOKING AT
00:56:25.682 --> 00:56:27.450
Y. EIGHT MORE DAYS PER PATIENT
00:56:27.517 --> 00:56:29.486
IN THE IN PATIENT.
00:56:29.552 --> 00:56:30.887
YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE --
00:56:30.954 --> 00:56:32.889
AND SEEMS LIKE YOURS NO CONTROL
00:56:32.956 --> 00:56:34.958
OR AB KENTUCKY.
00:56:35.024 --> 00:56:36.559
THAT'S AN AREA I WOULD I WOULD
00:56:36.626 --> 00:56:38.261
WONDER ABOUT.
00:56:38.328 --> 00:56:39.362
WHEN I SAW THAT I SO WELL HE'S
00:56:39.429 --> 00:56:40.396
GOT MORE?
00:56:40.463 --> 00:56:43.266
LONGER STAYS IN THE IN PATIENT
00:56:43.333 --> 00:56:44.200
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE THE COSTS
00:56:44.267 --> 00:56:45.568
MONEY.
00:56:45.635 --> 00:56:47.670
SO WHY WHY IS THAT HAPPENING.
00:56:47.737 --> 00:56:49.773
WELL IN TERMS OF PROCESS.
00:56:49.839 --> 00:56:51.441
YEAH I'M INTO AND GET SENT TO
00:56:51.508 --> 00:56:53.510
THE NEXT ITEM BUT I'M I'M ASKING
00:56:53.576 --> 00:56:54.711
THEM NOW SO YOU.
00:56:54.778 --> 00:56:56.579
YEAH IN MY EYES I'M SUSPICIOUS
00:56:56.646 --> 00:57:02.018
WHY THAT IN PATIENTS GOING UP.
00:57:02.085 --> 00:57:02.519
IN TERMS OF THE POSITION
00:57:02.585 --> 00:57:03.686
REDUCTIONS -- WE WOULD DO THAT
00:57:03.753 --> 00:57:04.921
THROUGH ATTRITION OR FIND
00:57:04.988 --> 00:57:05.755
ANOTHER VACANCIES -- THE LAYOFF
00:57:05.822 --> 00:57:07.423
PROCESSES ARE OUR LAST OPTION
00:57:07.490 --> 00:57:07.957
WHEN IT COMES TO POSITION
00:57:08.024 --> 00:57:09.726
REDUCTIONS AND NORMALLY WITH OUR
00:57:09.793 --> 00:57:12.295
POPULATION REDUCTIONS ITS USE ON
00:57:12.362 --> 00:57:13.463
THE MARGIN WE CAN ABSORB THOSE.
00:57:13.530 --> 00:57:16.566
OR THESE TEMPORARY INCREASES OR
00:57:16.633 --> 00:57:18.301
THE YOU LOOK LIKE A MORE --
00:57:18.368 --> 00:57:20.603
LEVELING OFFER WHICH STORY --
00:57:20.670 --> 00:57:22.205
WELL I I SUSPECT IS A LEVELING
00:57:22.272 --> 00:57:24.707
OFF THE IF IF THIS CHANGE TO THE
00:57:24.774 --> 00:57:28.178
MODELS APPROVED WE FILL THESE-POSITIONS AND THE POPULATION I
00:57:28.244 --> 00:57:28.611
DON'T.
00:57:28.678 --> 00:57:29.412
KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
00:57:29.479 --> 00:57:31.514
POPULATION PROJECTIONS ARE I
00:57:31.581 --> 00:57:32.549
DON'T THINK THERE [inaudible]
00:57:32.615 --> 00:57:35.018
INCREASING SUBSTANTIALLY
00:57:35.084 --> 00:57:36.052
NARROWER BUT IT WOULD DOWN THE
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.021
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF THINGS
00:57:38.087 --> 00:57:40.256
ARE GOING DOWN.
00:57:40.323 --> 00:57:40.890
THEY ARE LIKELY WONDERING THEN
00:57:40.957 --> 00:57:42.091
IT WOULD DEPEND ON ARE YOU
00:57:42.158 --> 00:57:44.060
BRINGING DOWN I KNOW WHICH
00:57:44.127 --> 00:57:44.894
POPULOUS CORRECT.
00:57:44.961 --> 00:57:45.995
YEAH YOU'RE BRINGING DOWN THE
00:57:46.062 --> 00:57:48.498
HEALTHY YOUNG GUYS -- THAT HELPS
00:57:48.565 --> 00:57:49.833
A LITTLE BIT BUT IT DOESN'T HELP
00:57:49.899 --> 00:57:52.535
ALL THAT MUCH SO IT DEPENDS ON
00:57:52.602 --> 00:57:54.337
THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE
00:57:54.404 --> 00:57:56.206
POPULATION REDUCTION CAN FOCUS
00:57:56.272 --> 00:57:58.174
ON THE IN PATIENT PART OF IT
00:57:58.241 --> 00:57:59.242
YEAH LIKE -- LET ME HAVE WIRE
00:57:59.309 --> 00:58:02.612
WHERE -- YOU HAVING MORE LONGER
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:04.314
STAYS IN THE IN PATIENT OR MAY
00:58:04.380 --> 00:58:05.348
HAVE DOC KANE AND DO YOU CONTROL
00:58:05.415 --> 00:58:06.216
THAT I MEAN HOW DO YOU CAN.
00:58:06.282 --> 00:58:07.417
YOU KNOW LIKE THAT'S ONE OF THE
00:58:07.483 --> 00:58:12.689
PRIMARY THINGS HOSPITAL WHO'S
00:58:12.755 --> 00:58:16.292
THE THE HAVE PROTOCOLS TO
00:58:16.359 --> 00:58:18.962
CONTROL YOUR INPATIENT.
00:58:19.028 --> 00:58:20.730
SO WHAT'S GOING ON AND I THINK.
00:58:20.797 --> 00:58:21.397
OVER A CANE AND I THINK PART OF
00:58:21.464 --> 00:58:22.532
WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO A
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.367
SENATOR BAIL IS ACTUALLY A
00:58:24.434 --> 00:58:26.002
PATIENTS WHO ARE.
00:58:26.069 --> 00:58:27.670
ADMITTED TO OUR OUTSIDE
00:58:27.737 --> 00:58:29.839
COMMUNITY HOSPITALS THERE WE ARE
00:58:29.906 --> 00:58:32.342
SEEN ON ALTHOUGH THE ADMISSIONS
00:58:32.408 --> 00:58:34.110
ARE ACTUALLY NOT GOING UP AT THE
00:58:34.177 --> 00:58:36.079
SAME RATE WE ARE SEEN LONGER
00:58:36.145 --> 00:58:38.181
LENGTH OF STAY.
00:58:38.248 --> 00:58:39.449
AND ACTUALLY THAT'S RELATEDTO
00:58:39.515 --> 00:58:41.084
THAT TWO THINGS BUT REALLY IT
00:58:41.150 --> 00:58:42.919
REALLY BOILS DOWN -- TO THE
00:58:42.986 --> 00:58:46.389
COMPLEXITY OF THE PATIENT A CASE
00:58:46.456 --> 00:58:48.992
MIX -- ONE OF THE POPULATIONS
00:58:49.058 --> 00:58:50.226
THAT STRIVING THAT IS ACTUALLY
00:58:50.293 --> 00:58:51.728
OUR PATIENTS ARE GETTING OLDER
00:58:51.794 --> 00:58:53.396
AND SICKER SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR
00:58:53.463 --> 00:58:55.064
STANCE FOR HIGH RISK ONE INTO
00:58:55.131 --> 00:58:56.065
PATIENTS.
00:58:56.132 --> 00:58:57.734
THAT IS GOING ON UP AND THAT IS
00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:59.469
COMMENSURATE WITH AN INCREASE IN
00:58:59.535 --> 00:59:02.772
THE ADMISSIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY
00:59:02.839 --> 00:59:03.273
HOSPITAL.
00:59:03.339 --> 00:59:04.007
THERE'S ALSO KIND OF A SECOND
00:59:04.073 --> 00:59:06.075
GROUP OF OF PATIENTS WHO ARE
00:59:06.142 --> 00:59:08.478
REALLY NOT -- WHO WEREN'T AS
00:59:08.544 --> 00:59:10.246
COMPLEX -- PRIOR TO
00:59:10.313 --> 00:59:12.015
HOSPITALIZATION BUT THIS IS
00:59:12.081 --> 00:59:13.883
ACTUALLY RELATED TO THE INCREASE
00:59:13.950 --> 00:59:16.085
IN TRAUMA THAT WERE SEEN IN
00:59:16.152 --> 00:59:18.788
INCREASES IN -- OVERDOSES AND
00:59:18.855 --> 00:59:20.690
INFECTIONS WERE ACTUALLY RELATED
00:59:20.757 --> 00:59:22.725
TO SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER ON SO
00:59:22.792 --> 00:59:24.594
THOSE TWO DIFFERENT PATIENT
00:59:24.661 --> 00:59:26.996
POPULATIONS ARE DRIVING THE
00:59:27.063 --> 00:59:28.831
INCREASE IN ADMISSIONS BUT EVEN
00:59:28.898 --> 00:59:29.832
MORE IMPORTANTLY
00:59:29.899 --> 00:59:31.501
DISPROPORTIONATELY.
00:59:31.567 --> 00:59:33.102
THEY'RE DRIVING THE INCREASED
00:59:33.169 --> 00:59:34.604
LENGTH OF STAY IN THE COMMUNITY
00:59:34.671 --> 00:59:36.839
HOSPITAL AND I WILL SAY THAT ARE
00:59:36.906 --> 00:59:39.542
WE WE TRACK VERY CLOSELY -- WHEN
00:59:39.609 --> 00:59:41.077
IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR PATIENTS TO
00:59:41.144 --> 00:59:43.513
BE DISCHARGED AND PATIENTS ARE
00:59:43.579 --> 00:59:46.215
DISCHARGED -- BY AND LARGE WHEN
00:59:46.282 --> 00:59:47.250
THEY NEED TO BE FROM THE
00:59:47.317 --> 00:59:48.318
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL WE CALL IT
00:59:48.384 --> 00:59:51.321
ADMINISTRATIVE BAD DAYS AND WE
00:59:51.387 --> 00:59:53.756
HAVE VERY LOW NUMBERS OF THAT.
00:59:53.823 --> 00:59:55.558
OKAY AND SO CENTER WE ACTUALLY
00:59:55.625 --> 00:59:56.459
DO HAVE -- A YUBA UTILIZATION
00:59:56.526 --> 00:59:58.361
MANAGEMENT TYPE SYSTEMS THAT
00:59:58.428 --> 00:59:59.729
RIGHT AS YOU CAN TELL KEEP TRACK
00:59:59.796 --> 01:00:02.131
PRETTY CLOSELY OF OF THESE SORT
01:00:02.198 --> 01:00:03.533
OF ISSUES.
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.435
THE DO YOU HAVE -- NO HEALTH
01:00:05.501 --> 01:00:08.171
OUTCOMES MEASUREMENTS.
01:00:08.237 --> 01:00:09.772
SO YES YOU'RE SAYING THE
01:00:09.839 --> 01:00:11.808
PATIENTS ARE GET ANY BETTER SO
01:00:11.874 --> 01:00:14.110
WHAT'S YOUR STRATEGY ON HEALTH
01:00:14.177 --> 01:00:16.212
OUTCOMES THAT. TO MAKE YOU KNOW
01:00:16.279 --> 01:00:17.413
IS THERE IS THERE A STRATEGY ON
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.382
NOT.
01:00:19.449 --> 01:00:20.950
WELL FOR YOUR HEALTH OKAY WE
01:00:21.017 --> 01:00:22.919
CERTAINLY WANT IF YOU LOOK AT ON
01:00:22.986 --> 01:00:24.554
IN TERMS OF DEATHS.
01:00:24.620 --> 01:00:27.690
EVERYWHERE EXCEPT ON OVERDOSE --
01:00:27.757 --> 01:00:29.359
WHAT WE HAVE REDUCE DEATHS OF
01:00:29.425 --> 01:00:31.427
THE DEATH RATES ASSOCIATE OR
01:00:31.494 --> 01:00:32.528
DOES IT SHOULD ON A LITTLE BIT
01:00:32.595 --> 01:00:33.930
OVERDOSES OF GONE UP
01:00:33.997 --> 01:00:35.932
SUBSTANTIALLY -- ON OTHER SORTS
01:00:35.999 --> 01:00:37.667
OF CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD
01:00:37.734 --> 01:00:38.501
TYPICALLY.
01:00:38.568 --> 01:00:40.103
OF A WAR WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER
01:00:40.169 --> 01:00:40.870
OF PATIENTS.
01:00:40.937 --> 01:00:43.506
OF DIABETES FOR EXAMPLE ON IN
01:00:43.573 --> 01:00:45.208
STAGE LIVER DISEASE THERE --
01:00:45.274 --> 01:00:48.144
WOULD WE TRACK OUR PERFORMANCE --
01:00:48.211 --> 01:00:50.279
VERY CLOSELY AGAINST OF THE
01:00:50.346 --> 01:00:52.315
PERFORMANCE OF OUTSIDE -- THE
01:00:52.382 --> 01:00:54.650
MEDICAL HOSPITALS AND MEDICAL
01:00:54.717 --> 01:00:56.652
SYSTEMS ARE IN OUR PERFORMANCE
01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:58.821
CONTINUES TO BE BETTER THAN MOST
01:00:58.888 --> 01:01:01.557
HMO SO -- WAS SIMILAR TO THE VET
01:01:01.624 --> 01:01:03.960
ADMINISTRATION -- AT TIMES
01:01:04.027 --> 01:01:05.294
APPROACHING -- KAISER LEVEL OF
01:01:05.361 --> 01:01:07.063
QUALITY SO WE'RE TRACKING
01:01:07.130 --> 01:01:08.097
OBJECTIVE.
01:01:08.164 --> 01:01:10.099
OUTCOME MEASURES ARE ON A
01:01:10.166 --> 01:01:11.634
ROUTINE BASIS AND ARE TRYING TO
01:01:11.701 --> 01:01:14.203
MAKE SURE SUCCESSFULLY I THINK
01:01:14.270 --> 01:01:19.809
THAT WERE EXCEEDING.
01:01:19.876 --> 01:01:20.877
THE PERFORMANCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:01:20.943 --> 01:01:22.845
IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF STAFF
01:01:22.912 --> 01:01:25.348
ON THE TABLES A BNC HAVE.
01:01:25.415 --> 01:01:31.521
OF THE THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE
01:01:31.587 --> 01:01:34.057
ON THAT IS THE I SEE THE THE THE
01:01:34.123 --> 01:01:36.959
MAJOR INCREASES IN PHARMACY.
01:01:37.026 --> 01:01:40.029
AND THEN YOU HAVE -- FOOD.
01:01:40.096 --> 01:01:42.665
FOOD SERVICES.
01:01:42.732 --> 01:01:45.134
OKAY CAN YOU EXPLAIN KNOWS WHY.
01:01:45.201 --> 01:01:46.702
FOOD SERVICES WHAT'S GOING ON
01:01:46.769 --> 01:01:48.704
THERE.
01:01:48.771 --> 01:01:51.340
IN FOOD SERVICES I DON'T SEE
01:01:51.407 --> 01:01:52.975
WHAT WE DID WE LABEL BE ACTUALLY
01:01:53.042 --> 01:01:55.678
YEAH -- FOR THE FOR THE DIETARY
01:01:55.745 --> 01:01:58.381
PIECE -- AND COOKS COOKS YEAH
01:01:58.448 --> 01:02:00.183
THE COOKS WOULDN'T HAVE A MODEL
01:02:00.249 --> 01:02:01.784
FOR AND SO WE'RE UPDATING OUR
01:02:01.851 --> 01:02:03.453
MODEL BE CONSISTENT WITH CITIES
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:03.719
HERE ARE.
01:02:03.786 --> 01:02:05.121
THE EVERY LEAVE.
01:02:05.188 --> 01:02:08.091
AND THAT RELIEF PROVIDES -- FOR
01:02:08.157 --> 01:02:09.158
THEM TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE
01:02:09.225 --> 01:02:12.095
STAFFING DALY AND WE'D WE HAD
01:02:12.161 --> 01:02:13.663
NEVER BASS LINE OUR COOKS IN OUR
01:02:13.729 --> 01:02:16.399
INPATIENT UNITS -- AND SO WE'RE
01:02:16.466 --> 01:02:18.501
RE BASING OUR COOKS TO THE TO
01:02:18.568 --> 01:02:20.503
THE CDC OUR BLUEPRINT MODEL SO
01:02:20.570 --> 01:02:21.804
WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE RELIEF
01:02:21.871 --> 01:02:26.275
AND STAFFING TO PROVIDE SERVICES
01:02:26.342 --> 01:02:27.844
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
01:02:27.910 --> 01:02:30.713
OKAY DO YOU -- THE NURSES.
01:02:30.780 --> 01:02:32.181
THERE'S QUITE A FEW NURSES
01:02:32.248 --> 01:02:34.817
PROPOSALS AND NURSE INSTRUCTORS.
01:02:34.884 --> 01:02:37.753
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT.
01:02:37.820 --> 01:02:38.855
THERE'S BEEN IT.
01:02:38.921 --> 01:02:41.124
SHOULD INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF
01:02:41.190 --> 01:02:43.459
TRAINING THE THAT IS PROVIDED TO
01:02:43.526 --> 01:02:45.061
OUR OUR NURSING STAFF AND WE
01:02:45.128 --> 01:02:46.229
HAVE.
01:02:46.295 --> 01:02:48.030
UPWARDS OF FIVE THOUSAND NURSING
01:02:48.097 --> 01:02:51.901
STAFF -- SO WE SAW A CRITICAL
01:02:51.968 --> 01:02:54.003
GAP WE WE HAVE BASICALLY ONE
01:02:54.070 --> 01:02:55.538
NURSE INSTRUCTOR PER FACILITY.
01:02:55.605 --> 01:02:57.473
AND THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE
01:02:57.540 --> 01:02:59.408
INSUFFICIENT -- SO WE'RE CLOSING
01:02:59.475 --> 01:03:00.843
THAT GAP ON THE INFECTION
01:03:00.910 --> 01:03:04.046
CONTROL -- INFECTION CONTROL --
01:03:04.113 --> 01:03:05.815
WAS NEVER PART OF THE ORIGINAL
01:03:05.882 --> 01:03:07.316
MODEL AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T
01:03:07.383 --> 01:03:08.985
HAVE THAT FUNCTION IN OUR
01:03:09.051 --> 01:03:10.987
FACILITIES AND THAT'S A BIG GAP
01:03:11.053 --> 01:03:12.655
IN HEALTH CARE ENVIRONMENT AND
01:03:12.722 --> 01:03:13.723
SO.
01:03:13.789 --> 01:03:16.859
WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT
01:03:16.926 --> 01:03:18.194
THAT GAP NOW.
01:03:18.261 --> 01:03:19.195
SO YOU'RE GOING FROM -- ONE SO
01:03:19.262 --> 01:03:23.199
THE THIRTY THIRTY TWO WE'RE
01:03:23.266 --> 01:03:24.600
GOING TO THIRTY FOUR THIRTY FOUR
01:03:24.667 --> 01:03:26.269
NURSES.
01:03:26.335 --> 01:03:27.803
SO EACH EACH.
01:03:27.870 --> 01:03:29.172
IS FOR SOIL HAVE INFECTION
01:03:29.238 --> 01:03:30.540
CONTROL.
01:03:30.606 --> 01:03:32.475
NEVER SPECIFICALLY FOR INFECTION
01:03:32.542 --> 01:03:34.210
CONTROL IN EACH FACILITY CORRECT
01:03:34.277 --> 01:03:35.878
AS OPPOSED TO WE DON'T HAVE THAT
01:03:35.945 --> 01:03:36.879
ANYMORE YEAH WE JUST DON'T HAVE
01:03:36.946 --> 01:03:37.280
IT.
01:03:37.346 --> 01:03:39.248
OKAY SO THAT NURSE WILL BE IN
01:03:39.315 --> 01:03:42.185
CHARGE OF THE WHOLE SUBJECT YES
01:03:42.251 --> 01:03:52.895
OR THE PLANNING FOR THEM -- OKAY --
01:03:52.962 --> 01:03:55.631
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT OUR
01:03:55.698 --> 01:03:58.134
POPULATION NUMBERS -- IN TERMS
01:03:58.201 --> 01:03:59.435
OF WHO IS HOUSED CURRENTLY WE
01:03:59.502 --> 01:04:02.939
HAVE.
01:04:03.005 --> 01:04:03.606
THERE YOU KNOW.
01:04:03.673 --> 01:04:06.976
THE HIGHER HUNDRED AND TWENTY
01:04:07.043 --> 01:04:07.577
SIX HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN K. A
01:04:07.643 --> 01:04:11.247
OUR THOUSAND IN INMATES RIGHT
01:04:11.314 --> 01:04:12.248
NOW.
01:04:12.315 --> 01:04:13.649
AND OF THOSE.
01:04:13.716 --> 01:04:15.585
ABOUT THIRTY NINE THOUSAND ARE
01:04:15.651 --> 01:04:17.887
LONG LONG TERM SO WE'VE GOT
01:04:17.954 --> 01:04:19.355
TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND LIFERS.
01:04:19.422 --> 01:04:21.190
FIVE THOUSAND WALKED.
01:04:21.257 --> 01:04:23.292
AND SEVEN THOUSAND THIRD
01:04:23.359 --> 01:04:25.528
STRIKERS SO THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE
01:04:25.595 --> 01:04:28.965
THAT ARE -- IT BASICALLY GONNA
01:04:29.031 --> 01:04:32.335
GET OLD IN OUR PRISONS AND WHICH
01:04:32.401 --> 01:04:33.803
I THINK IS THE POINT THAT'S
01:04:33.869 --> 01:04:36.439
BEING MADE HERE AND UNLESS WE DO
01:04:36.505 --> 01:04:38.407
SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
01:04:38.474 --> 01:04:41.777
IN TERMS OF IF WE LEAVE ITAS IT
01:04:41.844 --> 01:04:43.145
IS EVEN WITH.
01:04:43.212 --> 01:04:44.213
SOME OF THE CHANGES WITH CREDIT
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:48.684
AND SUCH -- THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT
01:04:48.751 --> 01:04:50.786
OF THESE FOLKS WHO JUST START.
01:04:50.853 --> 01:04:52.121
ELIGIBLE DATE SO.
01:04:52.188 --> 01:04:53.623
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
01:04:53.689 --> 01:04:58.661
OUR THE COSTS AROUND THE MEDICAL
01:04:58.728 --> 01:05:00.196
IN SUCH INCREASE
01:05:00.263 --> 01:05:01.397
JUST DUE TO THE FACT OF THE
01:05:01.464 --> 01:05:05.201
POPULATION THAT WE'RE THE WAY
01:05:05.268 --> 01:05:06.769
OUR SENTENCING CONDITIONS AND
01:05:06.836 --> 01:05:10.640
SUCH SO -- THIS IS ANOTHER ONE
01:05:10.706 --> 01:05:11.874
LIKE HER MENTAL HEALTH THAT WE
01:05:11.941 --> 01:05:13.009
MAY WANNA.
01:05:13.075 --> 01:05:14.810
DO SOME HEARINGS IN THE INTERIM
01:05:14.877 --> 01:05:16.045
OR A HEARING.
01:05:16.112 --> 01:05:18.681
BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE HAS
01:05:18.748 --> 01:05:21.550
PASSED -- POLICIES LIKE
01:05:21.617 --> 01:05:23.286
COMPASSIONATE RELEASE POLICIES
01:05:23.352 --> 01:05:25.888
ON MEDICAL PAROLE POLICIES ON
01:05:25.955 --> 01:05:26.856
ELDERLY.
01:05:26.922 --> 01:05:28.858
AND THE DATA THAT WE'VE RECEIVED
01:05:28.924 --> 01:05:31.427
TO DATE WOULD INDICATE THAT IT'S
01:05:31.494 --> 01:05:34.830
THESE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE --
01:05:34.897 --> 01:05:37.199
APPROVED HAVE NOT.
01:05:37.266 --> 01:05:40.536
THE BEEN RARELY LITTLE UTILIZED.
01:05:40.603 --> 01:05:42.271
SO WE MAY WANT TO LOOK FURTHER
01:05:42.338 --> 01:05:46.876
AT THAT -- BECAUSE FOR A PUBLIC
01:05:46.942 --> 01:05:48.511
SAFETY POINT OF VIEW.
01:05:48.577 --> 01:05:50.880
OUR HOUSING SOME NUMBER OF THESE
01:05:50.946 --> 01:05:52.581
PEOPLE IS NOT NECESSARILY
01:05:52.648 --> 01:05:53.949
BRINGING US PUBLIC SAFETY BUT
01:05:54.016 --> 01:05:55.518
DEFINITELY BRINGING US VERY HIGH
01:05:55.584 --> 01:06:01.023
COSTS -- ANYWAY SO THE GROUP.
01:06:01.090 --> 01:06:03.893
WE MAYBE WE COULD ENTERTAIN A
01:06:03.959 --> 01:06:07.296
MOTION. TO APPROVE AS BUDGETED
01:06:07.363 --> 01:06:09.332
BUT WITH THE ADDITION OF A
01:06:09.398 --> 01:06:14.770
REPORT -- AS THE LA -- SUGGESTED
01:06:14.837 --> 01:06:16.539
SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT
01:06:16.605 --> 01:06:18.574
UTILIZATION RATES AND MAKE A
01:06:18.641 --> 01:06:22.578
FUTURE ADJUSTMENT IF NEEDED.
01:06:22.645 --> 01:06:23.212
I MAKE A MOTION PICTURE.
01:06:23.279 --> 01:06:25.181
ALL RIGHT.
01:06:25.247 --> 01:06:26.916
A DEPARTMENT FINANCE JACQUELINE
01:06:26.982 --> 01:06:27.783
COME THE PART OF FINANCE I THINK --
01:06:27.850 --> 01:06:29.752
PROVIDING SOME REPORTING METRICS
01:06:29.819 --> 01:06:30.853
THAT AREN'T OVERLY
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:31.987
ADMINISTRATIVELY BURDENSOME
01:06:32.054 --> 01:06:34.323
MAKES SENSE -- THE THE TERM
01:06:34.390 --> 01:06:35.391
REPORT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT MORE
01:06:35.458 --> 01:06:37.426
ROBUST AND I THINK I WAS MAKING
01:06:37.493 --> 01:06:38.494
BUT DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT
01:06:38.561 --> 01:06:40.129
ACT ON THE METRICS THAT WERE
01:06:40.196 --> 01:06:41.897
USED TO JUSTIFY THE REQUEST.
01:06:41.964 --> 01:06:44.767
SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE ASK OKAY --
01:06:44.834 --> 01:06:48.771
YES THAT IS WHAT I WAS INTENDING
01:06:48.838 --> 01:06:52.708
VERSUS -- A LONG -- SUBJECTIVE
01:06:52.775 --> 01:06:54.243
REPORT IT WAS MUCH MORE IN THE
01:06:54.310 --> 01:06:56.679
MATRIX OKAY SO WITH THE
01:06:56.746 --> 01:06:58.347
CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION I'LL
01:06:58.414 --> 01:07:00.950
TAKE A ROLL CALL.
01:07:01.016 --> 01:07:03.319
CENTER SKINNER HI THERE MARK
01:07:03.386 --> 01:07:03.619
[inaudible]
01:07:03.686 --> 01:07:05.488
CENTRE BELL.
01:07:05.554 --> 01:07:07.390
I'M WILL HOLD IT OPEN IN CASE
01:07:07.456 --> 01:07:08.824
SENATOR MORE LIKE ONE STAT ON
01:07:08.891 --> 01:07:11.427
ALL RIGHT NOW SINCE WE HAVE THE
01:07:11.494 --> 01:07:12.027
RECEIVER AT THE TABLE.
01:07:12.094 --> 01:07:13.629
AND I'M THINKING THAT WE MIGHT
01:07:13.696 --> 01:07:18.901
WANT TO WITH OUR NEXT ITEM WAS --
01:07:18.968 --> 01:07:22.571
UNDER -- UNDER.
01:07:22.638 --> 01:07:25.408
THE ITEM FIVE TWO TWO FIVE ISSUE
01:07:25.474 --> 01:07:26.542
EIGHT THEIR CONTRACT MEDICAL
01:07:26.609 --> 01:07:27.710
AUGMENTATION.
01:07:27.777 --> 01:07:29.779
BUT THE OTHER RECEIVER ITEM THAT
01:07:29.845 --> 01:07:31.380
WE HAVE.
01:07:31.447 --> 01:07:33.716
ON OUR AGENDA.
01:07:33.783 --> 01:07:39.488
IS -- WHICH ONE WHICH NUMBER.
01:07:39.555 --> 01:07:40.389
TWENTY EIGHT TO TWENTY EIGHT SO
01:07:40.456 --> 01:07:42.458
PERHAPS WE WOULD DO NOW ISSUE
01:07:42.525 --> 01:07:45.428
EIGHT AND FOLLOW IT BY ISSUE.
01:07:45.494 --> 01:07:46.829
TWENTY EIGHT THAT [inaudible]
01:07:46.896 --> 01:07:50.232
THAT WORK.
01:07:50.299 --> 01:07:54.336
SO WE DEAL WITH THE WITH THE
01:07:54.403 --> 01:07:55.704
BACK TO THE NUMBER EATEN.
01:07:55.771 --> 01:07:56.739
YET WE'RE GONNA GO TO EIGHT
01:07:56.806 --> 01:07:57.306
RIGHT NOW.
01:07:57.373 --> 01:07:59.475
OKAY ISSUE EIGHT THANK YOU MA'AM
01:07:59.542 --> 01:08:00.776
CHAIR -- THE THE BUDGET INCLUDES
01:08:00.843 --> 01:08:02.144
AN AUGMENTATION OF SIXTY ONE
01:08:02.211 --> 01:08:03.345
POINT NINE MILLION OFFER
01:08:03.412 --> 01:08:05.014
CONTRACT MEDICAL SERVICES THERE
01:08:05.080 --> 01:08:07.082
ARE I THINK A REALLY TWO ASPECTS
01:08:07.149 --> 01:08:08.617
OF THIS THE FIRST IS.
01:08:08.684 --> 01:08:09.819
A STARK CANAAN'S ALREADY
01:08:09.885 --> 01:08:11.821
MENTIONED WE SIMPLY SEEN I
01:08:11.887 --> 01:08:13.923
INCREASES IN LENGTH OF STAY
01:08:13.989 --> 01:08:15.591
INCREASES IN COSTS ASSOCIATED
01:08:15.658 --> 01:08:17.092
WITH THE STATE BECAUSE OF
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:18.928
GREATER COMPLEXITY -- AND
01:08:18.994 --> 01:08:20.830
POSSIBLY INCREASES IN THE COSTS
01:08:20.896 --> 01:08:26.335
OF OUTSIDE HOSPITAL HERE.
01:08:26.402 --> 01:08:27.136
A SHE CAN ADDRESS THOSE IN
01:08:27.203 --> 01:08:28.070
GREATER DETAIL THERE IS A SECOND
01:08:28.137 --> 01:08:28.804
ASPECT TO THIS THIS JUST A
01:08:28.871 --> 01:08:30.473
BUDGET MANAGEMENT.
01:08:30.539 --> 01:08:32.508
ON THE ISSUE OF THAT ARE USEFUL
01:08:32.575 --> 01:08:33.709
I HAVE TO TAKE PERSONAL
01:08:33.776 --> 01:08:36.178
RESPONSIBILITY -- FOR WE
01:08:36.245 --> 01:08:38.247
ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN.
01:08:38.314 --> 01:08:39.582
ON THIS LINE OF OUR BUDGET.
01:08:39.648 --> 01:08:41.684
SEEING INCREASES BEYOND THAT THE
01:08:41.750 --> 01:08:44.186
AUTHORIZATION FOR ABOUT FOUR
01:08:44.253 --> 01:08:45.654
YEARS.
01:08:45.721 --> 01:08:47.523
AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON DURING
01:08:47.590 --> 01:08:49.825
THOSE YEARS AS WE HAVE COVER
01:08:49.892 --> 01:08:50.993
THOSE COSTS.
01:08:51.060 --> 01:08:53.562
ARE BASED ON A CENTRALLY SALARY
01:08:53.629 --> 01:08:55.097
SAVINGS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH
01:08:55.164 --> 01:08:57.366
A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE WERE
01:08:57.433 --> 01:08:59.001
SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN.
01:08:59.068 --> 01:09:00.736
IN THE OUR STAFFING WHERE WE HAD
01:09:00.803 --> 01:09:04.640
AS MUCH AS 2225% VACANCIES IN
01:09:04.707 --> 01:09:05.975
CLINICAL STAFFING.
01:09:06.041 --> 01:09:09.311
WHICH GENERATED AN ENORMOUS
01:09:09.378 --> 01:09:10.946
SAVINGS.
01:09:11.013 --> 01:09:12.481
ON END OF SENSUALLY I MADE THE
01:09:12.548 --> 01:09:13.916
MISTAKE I CONSIDERED IN
01:09:13.983 --> 01:09:15.217
RETROSPECT A MISTAKE.
01:09:15.284 --> 01:09:17.753
OF USING THOSE SAVINGS TO OFFSET
01:09:17.820 --> 01:09:19.221
THE INCREASES IN CONTRACT
01:09:19.288 --> 01:09:20.756
MEDICAL AND THEN I THINK THE
01:09:20.823 --> 01:09:22.892
MISTAKE WAS NOT TELLING FINANCE
01:09:22.958 --> 01:09:25.160
ON A YEAR BY YEAR BASIS.
01:09:25.227 --> 01:09:26.262
THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO
01:09:26.328 --> 01:09:28.664
INCREASE THE AUTHORIZATION FOR
01:09:28.731 --> 01:09:30.266
CONTRACT MEDICAL.
01:09:30.332 --> 01:09:31.934
THE RESULT IS WE'RE HAVING TO
01:09:32.001 --> 01:09:34.069
PLAY CATCH UP.
01:09:34.136 --> 01:09:35.271
BECAUSE IN THE LAST YEAR.
01:09:35.337 --> 01:09:37.940
WE ACTUALLY HAVE FILLED ON
01:09:38.007 --> 01:09:39.608
NEARLY ALL OF THOSE CLINICAL
01:09:39.675 --> 01:09:41.210
POSITIONS.
01:09:41.277 --> 01:09:43.412
SO WE DID NOT GENERATE A COST
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:44.747
SAVINGS THAT WE COULD USE TO
01:09:44.813 --> 01:09:46.715
COVER THIS -- THAT WAS THE
01:09:46.782 --> 01:09:49.885
REASON THAT WE HAD -- A REQUEST
01:09:49.952 --> 01:09:52.087
FOR A DEFICIENCY -- AND THIS
01:09:52.154 --> 01:09:54.456
RELATES TO THE ACT OF SENSUALLY
01:09:54.523 --> 01:09:56.125
WE NEED A ONE TIME CATCH UP.
01:09:56.192 --> 01:09:58.394
ON AND I HAVE DONE MY
01:09:58.460 --> 01:10:00.796
APPROPRIATE PENANCE OF OVER THE
01:10:00.863 --> 01:10:02.064
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE.
01:10:02.131 --> 01:10:04.400
IN ASSURE THEM THAT THE I WON'T
01:10:04.466 --> 01:10:06.201
BE DOING THIS IN THE FUTURE --
01:10:06.268 --> 01:10:11.006
AND THAT WE WILL -- BE SHARING.
01:10:11.073 --> 01:10:12.207
OUR EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
01:10:12.274 --> 01:10:14.610
ON ANY AND ALL INFORMATION ABOUT
01:10:14.677 --> 01:10:17.212
PROJECTED INCREASES FOR EXAMPLE
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.547
IN CONTRACT MEDICAL OR
01:10:18.614 --> 01:10:20.516
PHARMACEUTICALS.
01:10:20.583 --> 01:10:21.917
SO THE BUT BOTH THE DEPARTMENT
01:10:21.984 --> 01:10:25.888
OF FINANCE AND THE LEGISLATURE
01:10:25.955 --> 01:10:28.958
IS NOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD
01:10:29.024 --> 01:10:29.258
[inaudible]
01:10:29.325 --> 01:10:31.193
CENTERVILLE.
01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:33.262
SO THE COST DRIVERS -- THE
01:10:33.329 --> 01:10:36.365
INPATIENT HOSPITAL -- WHAT KIND
01:10:36.432 --> 01:10:39.301
OF -- HOSPITAL TREATMENT ARE YOU
01:10:39.368 --> 01:10:41.770
PUTTING PEOPLE AND IS THIS OF
01:10:41.837 --> 01:10:43.172
INTENSIVE CARE OR REGULAR
01:10:43.238 --> 01:10:44.907
HOSPITAL LIKE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT
01:10:44.974 --> 01:10:46.542
LEVELS.
01:10:46.609 --> 01:10:48.077
CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT
01:10:48.143 --> 01:10:50.713
KIND OF PEOPLE OF WHAT WHAT KIND
01:10:50.779 --> 01:10:52.581
OF CARE LEVELS ARE.
01:10:52.648 --> 01:10:53.949
YOU PUTTING PEOPLE AT THE
01:10:54.016 --> 01:11:00.222
HOSPITAL EMERGENCY RESERVE THE
01:11:00.289 --> 01:11:00.823
WE BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT
01:11:00.889 --> 01:11:01.190
MAYBE.
01:11:01.256 --> 01:11:02.091
WELL I'M I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE
01:11:02.157 --> 01:11:03.759
THEM THE DATA FOR YOU IF YOU
01:11:03.826 --> 01:11:04.760
WOULD LIKE TO SEE SORT OF THE
01:11:04.827 --> 01:11:06.295
BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT KIND
01:11:06.362 --> 01:11:08.230
OF LEVELS OF CARE ONCE WE SEND
01:11:08.297 --> 01:11:09.832
THE PATIENT ALLAH BUT IT.
01:11:09.898 --> 01:11:11.033
IT REALLY IS THE WHOLE CONTINUUM
01:11:11.100 --> 01:11:13.202
THAT YOU THAT YOU MENTIONED -- A
01:11:13.268 --> 01:11:15.437
LOT OF THIS IS DRIVEN -- THROUGH
01:11:15.504 --> 01:11:17.806
THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT THE
01:11:17.873 --> 01:11:19.541
PATIENT IS THEN ADMITTED ON MOST
01:11:19.608 --> 01:11:21.343
OF THEM GO TO YOU KNOW GENERAL
01:11:21.410 --> 01:11:24.179
MEDICAL -- WARDS OBVIOUSLY THERE
01:11:24.246 --> 01:11:26.515
ARE SPECIALIZED A UNITS AS WELL
01:11:26.582 --> 01:11:28.751
FOR CARDIOLOGY IS AN EXAMPLE --
01:11:28.817 --> 01:11:32.087
AND WE DO A SEND PATIENTS TO THE
01:11:32.154 --> 01:11:33.322
INTENSIVE CARE UNIT AS WELL --
01:11:33.389 --> 01:11:35.758
ACROSS ALL THOSE SPECTRUMS ONCE
01:11:35.824 --> 01:11:37.626
THEY'RE HOSPITALIZED WHAT WE ARE
01:11:37.693 --> 01:11:39.862
SEEN OUR PATIENTS WHO ARE
01:11:39.928 --> 01:11:41.730
STAYING LONGER.
01:11:41.797 --> 01:11:42.998
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CODING
01:11:43.065 --> 01:11:45.534
REGARDLESS OF THE DIAGNOSES THAT
01:11:45.601 --> 01:11:47.002
THESE PATIENTS HAVE.
01:11:47.069 --> 01:11:49.938
IT'S OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH MORE
01:11:50.005 --> 01:11:51.407
COMPLEXITY.
01:11:51.473 --> 01:11:53.809
SO WE'RE SEEING THE SAME TYPE OF
01:11:53.876 --> 01:11:55.744
DIAGNOSES -- THAT WE WERE SEEN
01:11:55.811 --> 01:11:58.147
IN PREVIOUS YEARS EXCEPT THAT
01:11:58.213 --> 01:12:00.983
THEY ARE NOW -- THERE NOW
01:12:01.050 --> 01:12:04.286
CONSIDERED MUCH MORE COMPLICATED.
01:12:04.353 --> 01:12:07.523
ARE YOU -- WHEN YOU SAY HOSPITAL
01:12:07.589 --> 01:12:09.391
INPATIENT WHEN I THINK OF A
01:12:09.458 --> 01:12:10.926
HOSPITAL INPATIENT I THINK OF?
01:12:10.993 --> 01:12:13.395
A HOSPITAL NOT.
01:12:13.462 --> 01:12:17.566
A NURSING HOME OR YOU'RE NOT.
01:12:17.633 --> 01:12:19.034
SENDING PEOPLE TO THOSE KIND OF
01:12:19.101 --> 01:12:20.803
FACILITIES CANNELLA THEY'RE NOT
01:12:20.869 --> 01:12:22.771
REALLY LONG TERM CARE FACILITIES --
01:12:22.838 --> 01:12:25.007
SO REALLY TALKING ABOUT A CUTE
01:12:25.074 --> 01:12:26.842
YOU DON'T A CUTE GENERAL ACUTE
01:12:26.909 --> 01:12:29.478
CARE HOSPITALS SO YOU GO IN
01:12:29.545 --> 01:12:30.379
THERE IN THESE [inaudible]
01:12:30.446 --> 01:12:32.347
SPEND [inaudible]
01:12:32.414 --> 01:12:36.418
TIME THERE -- DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE
01:12:36.485 --> 01:12:38.887
WHO SPEND MORE THAN -- A WEEK.
01:12:38.954 --> 01:12:41.090
YES THESE FACILITIES YEAH SO
01:12:41.156 --> 01:12:43.926
WHAT KIND OF THEME IN CLOSE ONES
01:12:43.992 --> 01:12:45.394
ACOSTA OUR MONEY RIGHT.
01:12:45.461 --> 01:12:46.395
WELL THE THE COST OF THE COST OF
01:12:46.462 --> 01:12:47.930
HOSPITALIZATION IS DEPENDING ON
01:12:47.996 --> 01:12:49.531
A NUMBER OF FACTORS BUT ONE OF
01:12:49.598 --> 01:12:51.066
THE MAJOR DRIVERS THAT WE ARE
01:12:51.133 --> 01:12:51.834
SEEING.
01:12:51.900 --> 01:12:53.936
IS THAT THEY ARE STAYING LONGER
01:12:54.002 --> 01:12:55.471
ON AVERAGE A LONGER.
01:12:55.537 --> 01:12:57.573
SO WHAT KIND OF CONTROLS ARE YOU
01:12:57.639 --> 01:13:00.008
AS ESTABLISHING [inaudible]
01:13:00.075 --> 01:13:02.111
ON THAT.
01:13:02.177 --> 01:13:03.078
AGAIN IT WAS EITHER SAID WE HAVE
01:13:03.145 --> 01:13:05.414
A VERY ROBUST UTILIZATION
01:13:05.481 --> 01:13:07.549
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM RIGHT STAFF
01:13:07.616 --> 01:13:09.151
WITH PHYSICIANS AND NURSES.
01:13:09.218 --> 01:13:11.220
AND WE COMMUNICATE WELL ALL OF
01:13:11.286 --> 01:13:12.721
OUR COMMUNITY HOSPITALS THERE
01:13:12.788 --> 01:13:14.590
ARE SEVERAL DOZEN OF THAT WE
01:13:14.656 --> 01:13:17.025
WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS -- TO
01:13:17.092 --> 01:13:18.260
MONITOR WHO WAS RECENTLY
01:13:18.327 --> 01:13:19.762
ADMITTED WHO'S READY FOR
01:13:19.828 --> 01:13:21.864
DISCHARGE AND TO BEGIN THAT
01:13:21.930 --> 01:13:23.832
DISCHARGE PLANNING.
01:13:23.899 --> 01:13:25.200
AND AS I MENTIONED.
01:13:25.267 --> 01:13:26.969
WE HAVE VERY LOW NUMBERS OF
01:13:27.035 --> 01:13:29.571
PATIENTS WHO WE KNOW ARE READY
01:13:29.638 --> 01:13:30.906
FOR DISCHARGE WHO IN FACT.
01:13:30.973 --> 01:13:32.808
A STAY IN THE HOSPITAL LONGER
01:13:32.875 --> 01:13:33.876
THAN THEY SHOULD.
01:13:33.942 --> 01:13:35.377
WE HAVE VERY LOW ADMINISTRATIVE
01:13:35.444 --> 01:13:37.379
BAD DAY SO AGAIN ON MOST OF
01:13:37.446 --> 01:13:39.248
THESE PATIENTS HAVE A BONA FIDE
01:13:39.314 --> 01:13:42.050
DIAGNOSES -- THAT SHOULD BE
01:13:42.117 --> 01:13:43.719
ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL BUT
01:13:43.786 --> 01:13:46.155
AGAIN WHAT WE ARE SEEN BECAUSE
01:13:46.221 --> 01:13:47.790
OF THE COMPLEXITY OF OUR PATIENT --
01:13:47.856 --> 01:13:49.758
OUR PATIENT POPULATION IS GOING
01:13:49.825 --> 01:13:51.593
UP THE HIGH RISK PATIENTS BUT WE
01:13:51.660 --> 01:13:52.895
ARE ALSO SEEN.
01:13:52.961 --> 01:13:54.930
OUR PATIENTS WHO ARE GETTING
01:13:54.997 --> 01:13:57.065
ADMITTED WHO WERE -- NOT
01:13:57.132 --> 01:13:59.234
NECESSARILY HIGH RISK CRIER TO
01:13:59.301 --> 01:14:01.470
ADMISSIONS -- BUT ARE BEING
01:14:01.537 --> 01:14:03.405
ADMITTED NOW -- BECAUSE OF
01:14:03.472 --> 01:14:06.141
SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA -- BECAUSE OF
01:14:06.208 --> 01:14:07.376
DRUG RELATED PROBLEMS A
01:14:07.442 --> 01:14:08.877
SIGNIFICANT INFECTIONS FOR
01:14:08.944 --> 01:14:12.948
EXAMPLE OR RELATED TO OVERDOSE
01:14:13.015 --> 01:14:15.584
OF SO YOU.
01:14:15.651 --> 01:14:17.052
DO HAVE A VARIATION IN THE RATES
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:17.853
THE HOSPITAL'S [inaudible]
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.122
CHARGE THE DEPARTMENT OF FOR THE
01:14:20.189 --> 01:14:21.290
SAME.
01:14:21.356 --> 01:14:24.159
SERVICES IS THERE ARE A WIDE
01:14:24.226 --> 01:14:26.094
VARIATION OF RATES.
01:14:26.161 --> 01:14:28.397
THAT THE HOSPITAL'S CHARGE AND
01:14:28.463 --> 01:14:30.265
WHAT'S YOUR CONTROL MECHANISM ON
01:14:30.332 --> 01:14:33.669
CONTROLLING THE HOSPITAL CHARGES
01:14:33.735 --> 01:14:35.103
ON THE RATES.
01:14:35.170 --> 01:14:37.072
WITH THE HOSPITALS.
01:14:37.139 --> 01:14:39.942
WE CONTRACT WITH HEALTH NET.
01:14:40.008 --> 01:14:41.510
AND HEALTH THAT -- BY THE
01:14:41.577 --> 01:14:42.477
SUPERVISOR NETWORK TO WORK
01:14:42.544 --> 01:14:44.446
WITHIN IN THE THEY DO MANY OF
01:14:44.513 --> 01:14:46.148
THOSE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WE
01:14:46.215 --> 01:14:48.617
DO HAVE A FEW HOSPITALS THAT ARE
01:14:48.684 --> 01:14:49.484
OUTSIDE OF THE HELP THAT
01:14:49.551 --> 01:14:51.653
CONTRACT THAT -- WE DO WORK WITH
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.690
AND AND YOU TO GO SHE ASIANS
01:14:54.756 --> 01:14:57.125
THOSE ARE HEALTH NET
01:14:57.192 --> 01:14:57.426
[inaudible]
01:14:57.492 --> 01:14:59.428
AFFILIATED HOSPITALS.
01:14:59.494 --> 01:15:01.363
THE MAJORITY YES OKAY -- THEY
01:15:01.430 --> 01:15:03.232
INCLUDE PUBLIC HOSPITALS
01:15:03.298 --> 01:15:03.532
[inaudible]
01:15:03.599 --> 01:15:07.502
OUR I BELIEVE SO [inaudible]
01:15:07.569 --> 01:15:09.571
YEAH OKAY.
01:15:09.638 --> 01:15:11.473
AND SO ON SO I'M INTERESTED IN
01:15:11.540 --> 01:15:12.341
WHAT.
01:15:12.407 --> 01:15:13.842
WHAT KIND OF VARIATION OF RATES
01:15:13.909 --> 01:15:16.345
TO THE?
01:15:16.411 --> 01:15:19.715
YOU KNOW LIKE.
01:15:19.781 --> 01:15:21.083
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY
01:15:21.149 --> 01:15:22.351
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG I THINK
01:15:22.417 --> 01:15:24.953
THAT STATUTE ACTUALLY SPECIFIES
01:15:25.020 --> 01:15:26.488
HOW MUCH OF THE DEPARTMENT IS
01:15:26.555 --> 01:15:28.590
ALLOWED TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES
01:15:28.657 --> 01:15:29.157
AND I THINK IT MAY BE LIKE
01:15:29.224 --> 01:15:32.794
PERCENT OF MEDICARE MEDICARE.
01:15:32.861 --> 01:15:34.263
MEDICARE I THINK SO.
01:15:34.329 --> 01:15:39.167
IN 25% OF MEDICARE SO IF YOU.
01:15:39.234 --> 01:15:41.570
RELEASED THE PATIENTS AND TO
01:15:41.637 --> 01:15:43.639
TREATMENT DUDE AUTOMATICALLY GET
01:15:43.705 --> 01:15:46.808
A 25% LESS COST.
01:15:46.875 --> 01:15:47.442
RIGHT YES.
01:15:47.509 --> 01:15:50.078
OKAY.
01:15:50.145 --> 01:15:52.014
ASSEMBLY SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME
01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:53.882
TO LOOK INTO.
01:15:53.949 --> 01:15:55.183
SO SO IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE
01:15:55.250 --> 01:15:57.185
RELEASED FOR MEDICAL DISCHARGE
01:15:57.252 --> 01:16:02.424
OR OR COMPASSIONATE RELEASE ROSE.
01:16:02.491 --> 01:16:04.526
THOSE KIND OF RELEASE THAT WOULD
01:16:04.593 --> 01:16:06.261
REDUCE THE COST.
01:16:06.328 --> 01:16:08.597
JUST ON OF MEDICAID AND MEDICARE
01:16:08.664 --> 01:16:10.899
MEDICARE RATE.
01:16:10.966 --> 01:16:13.769
NOT MEDI CAL RATE OKAY.
01:16:13.835 --> 01:16:16.104
MEDICARE RATES HIGHER YEAH MEDI
01:16:16.171 --> 01:16:17.139
CAL RATES LOWER.
01:16:17.205 --> 01:16:20.409
SO SO IF THE PERSON.
01:16:20.475 --> 01:16:22.444
WAS RELEASED IN A META CAL RATED
01:16:22.511 --> 01:16:25.948
THE BIG SAVINGS [inaudible]
01:16:26.014 --> 01:16:28.917
SO.
01:16:28.984 --> 01:16:30.919
DO IF IF -- THAT COULD BE
01:16:30.986 --> 01:16:32.988
INTERJECTS.
01:16:33.055 --> 01:16:34.356
FOR SO IS THERE SOMETHING IS A
01:16:34.423 --> 01:16:38.894
YOU CAN GIVE US ON ON ELIGIBLE.
01:16:38.961 --> 01:16:40.529
POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE.
01:16:40.595 --> 01:16:44.533
PATIENTS FOR MEDICAL DISCHARGE.
01:16:44.599 --> 01:16:47.035
DOES THAT MONEY [inaudible]
01:16:47.102 --> 01:16:48.870
SUBCOMMITTEE.
01:16:48.937 --> 01:16:51.173
SOME TO LOOK INTO.
01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:51.807
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT LOOKED
01:16:51.873 --> 01:16:53.842
INTO.
01:16:53.909 --> 01:16:55.210
SO WE ARE THERE YOU'LL SAVE
01:16:55.277 --> 01:16:55.777
MONEY COLLECTOR [inaudible]
01:16:55.844 --> 01:16:57.145
YES [inaudible]
01:16:57.212 --> 01:17:03.719
WE WOULD -- AS INDICATED BEFORE
01:17:03.785 --> 01:17:05.988
THESE MAY BE SUBJECTS OF SOME
01:17:06.054 --> 01:17:08.323
VERY -- INFORMATIVE
01:17:08.390 --> 01:17:14.863
INFORMATIONAL HEARING -- IN OUR
01:17:14.930 --> 01:17:17.232
WHEN WE'RE NOT UNDER THE PRESS
01:17:17.299 --> 01:17:18.900
OF A BUDGET OPTION.
01:17:18.967 --> 01:17:21.169
SO YOU -- CENTER BILL DID YOU
01:17:21.236 --> 01:17:25.841
HAVE A MOTION ON THIS OF A FEW --
01:17:25.907 --> 01:17:27.576
MAKE THE MOTION.
01:17:27.642 --> 01:17:29.344
AND THE SUGGESTION THAT WE
01:17:29.411 --> 01:17:31.079
EXPLORE THOSE THOSE ISSUES
01:17:31.146 --> 01:17:33.315
RAISED.
01:17:33.382 --> 01:17:35.717
ALL RIGHT SO -- THE MOTION THEN
01:17:35.784 --> 01:17:40.822
IS A APPROVE IS BUDGETED.
01:17:40.889 --> 01:17:44.559
BUT WITH -- HOME HOUSE LIKE
01:17:44.626 --> 01:17:47.329
CHARACTERIZE THIS.
01:17:47.396 --> 01:17:48.230
SOME OF THE ISSUES RAISED.
01:17:48.296 --> 01:17:52.634
BY THE REPORT BACK ON THE MANY
01:17:52.701 --> 01:17:55.337
CHARACTERIZE IT IS HOW WE MIGHT --
01:17:55.404 --> 01:17:58.874
REDUCE THESE COSTS WHAT OPTIONS --
01:17:58.940 --> 01:18:02.511
WE MIGHT HAVE.
01:18:02.577 --> 01:18:04.212
TO YEAH AND AND THIS IS A JUST
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:06.281
ABOUT YOUR REQUEST WE DO PLAN ON
01:18:06.348 --> 01:18:07.816
COLLECTING SOME ADDITIONAL DATA
01:18:07.883 --> 01:18:09.051
COMING BACK -- WITH THE FUTURE
01:18:09.117 --> 01:18:11.186
PROPOSAL TO ADDRESSES ISSUES OF
01:18:11.253 --> 01:18:13.155
THIS IS THIS IS JUST A ONE YEAR
01:18:13.221 --> 01:18:14.356
AUGMENTATION AND BUDGET YEAR.
01:18:14.423 --> 01:18:17.726
SO I MADE THE MOTION BECAUSE
01:18:17.793 --> 01:18:20.262
WHEN YOU TESTIFIED YOU OPEN THE
01:18:20.328 --> 01:18:22.697
DOOR ON THE SUBJECT SO.
01:18:22.764 --> 01:18:25.600
THE WALKTHROUGH.
01:18:25.667 --> 01:18:26.768
I'D SAY THAT WAY SO WITH THAT IN
01:18:26.835 --> 01:18:28.403
THE SUBJECT ON EARLY RELEASE
01:18:28.470 --> 01:18:32.174
ANOTHER THING SO I WALK THROUGH
01:18:32.240 --> 01:18:32.474
THE DOOR IS.
01:18:32.541 --> 01:18:33.975
OPEN.
01:18:34.042 --> 01:18:35.844
YET AND SUGGESTS THAT WE GET THE
01:18:35.911 --> 01:18:37.312
INFORMATION IF WE'RE GONNA
01:18:37.379 --> 01:18:38.513
EXPLORE ANY KIND OF BUDGETARY
01:18:38.580 --> 01:18:39.748
SAVINGS WE SHOULD EXPLORE EVERY
01:18:39.815 --> 01:18:43.652
OPTIONS FOR BUDGETARY SAVINGS.
01:18:43.718 --> 01:18:45.454
RIGHT SO WE'LL DO THIS -- AS
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:47.622
BUDGET WHICH IS THE ONE TIME
01:18:47.689 --> 01:18:48.790
ALLOCATION BUT WILL ALSO
01:18:48.857 --> 01:18:49.091
[inaudible]
01:18:49.157 --> 01:18:53.628
IN -- FOR OUR IN THE ITEM NEXT
01:18:53.695 --> 01:18:57.899
YEAR WE WILL GET SOME -- OPTIONS
01:18:57.966 --> 01:18:59.534
FOR HOW WE MIGHT AND REDUCE
01:18:59.601 --> 01:19:01.036
THESE COSTS.
01:19:01.103 --> 01:19:02.871
ART.
01:19:02.938 --> 01:19:03.472
WE HAVE A MOTION LET'S TO ROLL
01:19:03.538 --> 01:19:05.440
CALL.
01:19:05.507 --> 01:19:06.108
CENTER SKINNER BY SENATOR
01:19:06.174 --> 01:19:07.943
MORLOCK [inaudible]
01:19:08.009 --> 01:19:10.812
CENTRE BELL.
01:19:10.879 --> 01:19:16.485
OKAY SO WE WERE GONNA GO NEXT --
01:19:16.551 --> 01:19:18.153
TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE YES THOUGH I
01:19:18.220 --> 01:19:19.588
SHOULD ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
01:19:19.654 --> 01:19:22.424
POLICIES ISSUED ON IT BEFORE YOU --
01:19:22.491 --> 01:19:24.559
ACTED BUT THERE PUBLIC COMMENT
01:19:24.626 --> 01:19:26.795
ON THE ITEM WE JUST DID.
01:19:26.862 --> 01:19:28.497
ALRIGHT SO THIS NOW IS GOING TO
01:19:28.563 --> 01:19:31.900
BE THE THE SEVEN SEAS DISORDER
01:19:31.967 --> 01:19:33.902
PROGRAM BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE
01:19:33.969 --> 01:19:37.472
WITH YOUR INDULGENCE TO HAVE A
01:19:37.539 --> 01:19:38.907
FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
01:19:38.974 --> 01:19:40.942
SO THAT -- OUR SPECIAL SERVICES
01:19:41.009 --> 01:19:43.378
CAN PUT THE PODIUM HERE SO I MAY
01:19:43.445 --> 01:19:45.447
UTILIZE THAT TO STAND FROM THIS
01:19:45.514 --> 01:19:49.851
POINT ON AND AND IF ANYONE HAS
01:19:49.918 --> 01:19:52.521
ANY OTHER AT NEED WILL DO A FIVE
01:19:52.587 --> 01:20:05.634
MINUTE -- FOR DISCUSSION
01:20:05.700 --> 01:20:21.883
[inaudible]
01:20:47.742 --> 01:20:50.045
AFTER A BRIEF RECESS.
01:20:50.111 --> 01:20:53.048
AND WE HAVE GOT -- WE ARE.
01:20:53.114 --> 01:20:54.349
JUST VERY BRIEFLY GOING TO
01:20:54.416 --> 01:20:56.718
REOPEN ISSUE SEVEN WHICH WE
01:20:56.785 --> 01:20:59.187
ALREADY VOTED ON TO SEE --
01:20:59.254 --> 01:21:01.389
SENATOR MORE LOCK IF YOU WANT TO
01:21:01.456 --> 01:21:04.159
ADD ON WHICH YOU AND JUST READ
01:21:04.226 --> 01:21:07.229
THE MOTION ON ISSUE -- SEVEN
01:21:07.295 --> 01:21:10.498
YEAH SO THE THE MOTION IS.
01:21:10.565 --> 01:21:12.734
TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL -- AS
01:21:12.801 --> 01:21:14.970
BUDGETED BUT INCLUDE ALEJO
01:21:15.036 --> 01:21:20.709
REPORTING LANGUAGE [inaudible]
01:21:20.775 --> 01:21:24.246
OKAY.
01:21:24.312 --> 01:21:26.114
ALRIGHT SO THAT VOTE WAS THREE
01:21:26.181 --> 01:21:29.317
NOTHING AND A WE WILL NOW GO.
01:21:29.384 --> 01:21:32.087
TO OUR DISCUSSION ON THE
01:21:32.153 --> 01:21:33.555
MEDICALLY ASSISTED.
01:21:33.622 --> 01:21:34.956
A DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAM GO
01:21:35.023 --> 01:21:38.293
AHEAD -- MR RECEIVER THANK YOU
01:21:38.360 --> 01:21:41.730
MADAM CHAIR -- I'M DELIGHTED TO
01:21:41.796 --> 01:21:43.098
BE HERE TO PRESENT -- OF THE
01:21:43.164 --> 01:21:45.667
GOVERNOR'S -- INTEGRATED
01:21:45.734 --> 01:21:48.737
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER PROGRAM --
01:21:48.803 --> 01:21:50.138
I HAVE WITH ME FOR STOCKTON THEY
01:21:50.205 --> 01:21:52.674
CAME IN AND I'M JOINED NOW BY --
01:21:52.741 --> 01:21:55.210
OR A RUNNING SUSAN CORRECT --
01:21:55.277 --> 01:21:56.444
WHOSE POSITION MODEL I'LL GET
01:21:56.511 --> 01:21:58.013
THE JOB TITLE WRONGS FOLLOWED
01:21:58.079 --> 01:21:59.447
HIM INTRODUCES JOB TITLE DEPUTY
01:21:59.514 --> 01:22:02.817
DIRECTOR FOR THE DIVISION OF
01:22:02.884 --> 01:22:04.519
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS.
01:22:04.586 --> 01:22:07.689
THANK YOU THE THE COMMITTEE
01:22:07.756 --> 01:22:08.290
STAFF REPORTS -- THAT REALLY
01:22:08.356 --> 01:22:11.459
DOES A GREAT JOB OF SUMMARIZING --
01:22:11.526 --> 01:22:13.194
THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM OUR
01:22:13.261 --> 01:22:16.097
INITIAL FOCUS -- AND WHAT WE
01:22:16.164 --> 01:22:17.165
HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE FIRST
01:22:17.232 --> 01:22:19.801
COUPLE OF YEARS -- I THINK I CAN
01:22:19.868 --> 01:22:22.504
FAIRLY DESCRIBE OUR APPROACH
01:22:22.570 --> 01:22:31.946
HERE -- AS OF GOLD GOLD GO BIG --
01:22:32.013 --> 01:22:38.119
I BUT I THINK IT'S FAIRLY
01:22:38.186 --> 01:22:40.555
DESCRIBES IT -- THE VALIUM IS
01:22:40.622 --> 01:22:41.956
PROBABLY BEST OF AT LEAST I
01:22:42.023 --> 01:22:43.224
THINK IT MAY BE -- INSTEAD OF
01:22:43.291 --> 01:22:44.225
TRYING TO SUMMARIZE -- THIS
01:22:44.292 --> 01:22:45.593
COMPLEX PROGRAM IT MAY BE BEST
01:22:45.660 --> 01:22:46.161
FOR US TO JUST JUMP IN THE
01:22:46.227 --> 01:22:47.162
QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO SUMMARIZE
01:22:47.228 --> 01:22:50.432
IT BUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT
01:22:50.498 --> 01:22:52.233
REALLY DOES -- AN EXCELLENT JOB
01:22:52.300 --> 01:22:54.502
OF DESCRIBING ITS COMPONENT
01:22:54.569 --> 01:22:55.670
PARTS.
01:22:55.737 --> 01:22:58.940
OKAY I'M LET US SEE IF THERE ARE
01:22:59.007 --> 01:23:04.312
QUESTIONS BY MY COLLEAGUES OR IF
01:23:04.379 --> 01:23:07.349
WE HOLD ON A MINUTE WE DID HAVE
01:23:07.415 --> 01:23:09.551
AN LA -- FOR A RECOMMENDATION
01:23:09.617 --> 01:23:10.185
ARE PERHAPS A SHELVE ELLIE --
01:23:10.251 --> 01:23:11.786
PERCENT AND THEN WE CAN OPEN FOR
01:23:11.853 --> 01:23:13.788
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS GO AHEAD
01:23:13.855 --> 01:23:16.458
EARLIER.
01:23:16.524 --> 01:23:17.892
EARLY LOOK WHO'S MORE WITH THE
01:23:17.959 --> 01:23:19.327
LA -- WE DID IDENTIFY A FEW
01:23:19.394 --> 01:23:21.029
CONCERNS WITH THIS THE PROPOSAL
01:23:21.096 --> 01:23:22.297
WE NOTE THAT.
01:23:22.364 --> 01:23:23.665
ASPECTS OF IT ARE EVIDENCE BASED
01:23:23.732 --> 01:23:24.265
FOR INSTANCE MEDICATIONS THIS
01:23:24.332 --> 01:23:25.600
TREATMENT HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE
01:23:25.667 --> 01:23:27.035
AN EFFECTIVE TREATMENT OPTION
01:23:27.102 --> 01:23:28.269
AND COGNITIVE BEHAVIOR THERAPY
01:23:28.336 --> 01:23:30.772
HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE EFFECTIVE
01:23:30.839 --> 01:23:30.939
IN.
01:23:31.005 --> 01:23:32.240
MANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
01:23:32.307 --> 01:23:33.007
OF ART THEM THIS IS A LARGE
01:23:33.074 --> 01:23:34.676
SCALE IMPLEMENTATION OF A
01:23:34.743 --> 01:23:37.145
PROGRAM THAT IS UNTESTED BECAUSE
01:23:37.212 --> 01:23:38.012
MANY.
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:38.847
WHAT INCLUDES ASPECTS OUR
01:23:38.913 --> 01:23:40.081
EVIDENCE BASED NOT ALL ASPECTS
01:23:40.148 --> 01:23:41.049
ARE EVIDENCE BASED IN THIS
01:23:41.116 --> 01:23:44.219
COMBINATION OF PROGRAMS HAS NOT
01:23:44.285 --> 01:23:47.255
BEEN EVALUATED TO BE EFFECTIVE --
01:23:47.322 --> 01:23:48.723
WE NOTE THAT IN THE ONE ASPECT
01:23:48.790 --> 01:23:49.858
THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES TREATING
01:23:49.924 --> 01:23:51.593
PATIENTS WITH A FORM OF
01:23:51.659 --> 01:23:53.495
MEDICATION AND IT LONG LASTING
01:23:53.561 --> 01:23:54.496
JEKYLL FROM A GROUP AN ORPHAN
01:23:54.562 --> 01:23:55.563
THAT'S NEVER BEEN TESTED IN A
01:23:55.630 --> 01:23:56.664
CORRECTIONAL SETTING TO SEE IF
01:23:56.731 --> 01:23:57.766
IT HOW EFFECTIVE IT WOULD BE AT
01:23:57.832 --> 01:23:58.800
TREATING.
01:23:58.867 --> 01:24:00.668
INDIVIDUALS COMPARED TO THE
01:24:00.735 --> 01:24:01.469
OTHER FORMS OF MEDICATIONS AS
01:24:01.536 --> 01:24:03.037
THE ALL FORMS WHICH ARE SEVERAL
01:24:03.104 --> 01:24:05.540
TIMES CHEAPER.
01:24:05.607 --> 01:24:08.276
THE ONLY -- PILOT OF THIS DRUG
01:24:08.343 --> 01:24:09.644
IS CURRENTLY BEING CONDUCTED BY
01:24:09.711 --> 01:24:10.545
PENNSYLVANIA AND OUR PRISON
01:24:10.612 --> 01:24:12.080
SYSTEM.
01:24:12.147 --> 01:24:12.680
HOWEVER OR NOT BUT IT HAS RUN
01:24:12.747 --> 01:24:14.249
INTO SEVERAL ADMINISTRATIVE
01:24:14.315 --> 01:24:15.517
ISSUES AND SO.
01:24:15.583 --> 01:24:17.051
WHILE I WAS INITIALLY PLANNED TO
01:24:17.118 --> 01:24:19.988
LAUNCH IN JANUARY OF TWENTY
01:24:20.054 --> 01:24:20.455
NINETEEN THEY'RE STILL
01:24:20.522 --> 01:24:21.022
STRUGGLING TO GET THE FIRST
01:24:21.089 --> 01:24:22.690
PATIENTS ENROLLED.
01:24:22.757 --> 01:24:23.558
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ROLL ABOUT
01:24:23.625 --> 01:24:25.894
DRUG OUT STATEWIDE TO TREAT 10%
01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:30.365
OF THE M. A. T. PARTICIPANTS WHO
01:24:30.432 --> 01:24:32.500
HAVE AN OPIOID USE DISORDER --
01:24:32.567 --> 01:24:33.701
WE ALSO NOTE THAT THE COST
01:24:33.768 --> 01:24:34.235
ESTIMATES ARE SUBJECT TO
01:24:34.302 --> 01:24:35.303
SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY.
01:24:35.370 --> 01:24:36.604
ESTIMATES ARE BASED OFF OF
01:24:36.671 --> 01:24:38.339
PERCENTAGES THAT WE UNDERSTAND
01:24:38.406 --> 01:24:41.075
TO BE BASED OFF OF BUT VARIETY
01:24:41.142 --> 01:24:42.177
OF SOURCES INCLUDING OTHER
01:24:42.243 --> 01:24:43.077
STATES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
01:24:43.144 --> 01:24:45.213
VALIDATED TO REPRESENT THAT CDC
01:24:45.280 --> 01:24:49.250
OUR POPULATION -- AND ALSO ARE
01:24:49.317 --> 01:24:51.152
SUBJECT TO ERROR FOR INSTANCE WE
01:24:51.219 --> 01:24:52.520
NOTE THAT THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES
01:24:52.587 --> 01:24:53.822
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO
01:24:53.888 --> 01:24:55.023
PRESCRIBE THE LOCKS ON THE DRUG
01:24:55.089 --> 01:24:56.257
DESIGNED TO REVERSE OPIATE
01:24:56.324 --> 01:24:58.827
OVERDOSE IS. TO OFFENDERS GET
01:24:58.893 --> 01:25:01.095
BEING RELEASED FROM PRISON --
01:25:01.162 --> 01:25:03.565
AND THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR
01:25:03.631 --> 01:25:05.300
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND OFFENDERS
01:25:05.366 --> 01:25:06.701
FIVE OR THAT WERE -- PROPOSAL
01:25:06.768 --> 01:25:08.136
NOTES AT ONLY FOUR THOUSAND
01:25:08.203 --> 01:25:10.038
INDIVIDUALS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE
01:25:10.104 --> 01:25:13.107
RELEASED EACH YOUR WITHIN --
01:25:13.174 --> 01:25:14.542
BILL USED TO SORT OR THERE ARE
01:25:14.609 --> 01:25:15.543
POTENTIALLY OTHER ERRORS OF THIS
01:25:15.610 --> 01:25:16.878
NATURE THROUGHOUT THE PROPOSAL
01:25:16.945 --> 01:25:18.246
GIVEN THAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF
01:25:18.313 --> 01:25:20.682
MOVING PARTS INVOLVED -- IN
01:25:20.748 --> 01:25:21.716
ADDITION THE FULL COST OF
01:25:21.783 --> 01:25:24.385
IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT IDENTIFIED
01:25:24.452 --> 01:25:25.453
ADMINISTRATION HAS NOTED THAT
01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:28.056
THIS -- PROGRAM WOULD TAKE FIVE
01:25:28.122 --> 01:25:29.123
YEARS TO IMPLEMENT HOW THE
01:25:29.190 --> 01:25:30.492
PROPOSAL IS ONLY FOR THE FIRST
01:25:30.558 --> 01:25:32.126
THREE YEARS AND IT'S NOT CLEAR
01:25:32.193 --> 01:25:34.229
WHAT THE ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS
01:25:34.295 --> 01:25:35.497
WOULD BE FOR THE FOLLOWING YOURS
01:25:35.563 --> 01:25:36.030
OR WHAT FUNDING WOULD BE
01:25:36.097 --> 01:25:37.198
NECESSARY.
01:25:37.265 --> 01:25:38.500
THERE'S ALSO LIKELY TO BE
01:25:38.566 --> 01:25:40.034
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS RELATED TO
01:25:40.101 --> 01:25:42.337
THIS PROPOSAL -- GIVEN THE LARGE
01:25:42.403 --> 01:25:43.771
INCREASE AND CBT PROGRAMS OF THE
01:25:43.838 --> 01:25:45.974
CUT CLASSROOMS THE MEDICAL STAFF
01:25:46.040 --> 01:25:48.309
WHICH WOULD NEED SPACE -- AS
01:25:48.376 --> 01:25:52.714
WELL AS TREATMENT FOR THE NET.
01:25:52.780 --> 01:25:54.382
AND MEDICAL DISTRIBUTION --
01:25:54.449 --> 01:25:55.016
THERE ALSO POTENTIAL
01:25:55.083 --> 01:25:57.886
IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES -- AS
01:25:57.952 --> 01:25:59.287
HAS BEEN NOTED PREVIOUSLY THAT
01:25:59.354 --> 01:26:00.922
WAS THESE MEDICAL POSITIONS CAN
01:26:00.989 --> 01:26:02.390
BE DIFFICULT TO FILL THIS WOULD
01:26:02.457 --> 01:26:04.292
BE A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.094
NUMBER OF POSITIONS -- MORE OF
01:26:06.160 --> 01:26:07.795
OUR IT IS UNCLEAR HOW EFFECTIVE
01:26:07.862 --> 01:26:09.597
THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE AT LINKING
01:26:09.664 --> 01:26:11.299
INDIVIDUALS TO CARE IN THE
01:26:11.366 --> 01:26:13.568
COMMUNITY.
01:26:13.635 --> 01:26:15.136
WE NOTE THAT IN THE PROPOSAL IT
01:26:15.203 --> 01:26:17.038
MENTIONS AT FIFTY SIX COUNTIES
01:26:17.105 --> 01:26:17.972
HAVE.
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:19.707
IMPLEMENTED DIEM CODIS WHICH
01:26:19.774 --> 01:26:21.342
WOULD EXPAND THE TREATMENT IN
01:26:21.409 --> 01:26:22.577
THE COMMUNITY HAVE ACCOUNTS ARE
01:26:22.644 --> 01:26:23.912
VERY STAGED IMPLEMENTATION AND
01:26:23.978 --> 01:26:25.246
DATA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
01:26:25.313 --> 01:26:26.447
HEALTH CARE SERVICES.
01:26:26.514 --> 01:26:29.284
SUGGESTS THAT NUMBER IS ACTUALLY
01:26:29.350 --> 01:26:31.486
FORTY AND NOT.
01:26:31.553 --> 01:26:32.153
FIFTY SIX WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE
01:26:32.220 --> 01:26:34.789
ONLY STATE THAT HAS A STATEWIDE
01:26:34.856 --> 01:26:36.024
M. A. T. PROGRAMS.
01:26:36.090 --> 01:26:37.358
HAS GONE AROUND THIS
01:26:37.425 --> 01:26:38.760
IMPLEMENTATION ISSUE BY HAVING
01:26:38.826 --> 01:26:39.827
THE SAME PROVIDER PROVIDE
01:26:39.894 --> 01:26:41.462
SERVICES IN THE PRISON SYSTEM AS
01:26:41.529 --> 01:26:42.997
IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:26:43.064 --> 01:26:44.232
AND SO WHAT THAT PROGRAM HAS
01:26:44.299 --> 01:26:45.700
BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING
01:26:45.767 --> 01:26:47.502
OVERDOSE DEATHS NOT SURE HOW THE
01:26:47.569 --> 01:26:48.369
MORE COMPLICATED NATURE NOT BE
01:26:48.436 --> 01:26:50.071
NECESSARY FOR CALIFORNIA.
01:26:50.138 --> 01:26:53.741
WOULD BE AT LINKING THESE
01:26:53.808 --> 01:26:57.478
OFFENDERS TO SERVICES.
01:26:57.545 --> 01:26:58.413
FINALLY THERE'S ALSO THIS
01:26:58.479 --> 01:26:59.314
PROGRAM WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL
01:26:59.380 --> 01:27:00.548
INCREASE TO THE COGNITIVE
01:27:00.615 --> 01:27:02.417
BEHAVIORAL THERAPY PROGRAMS IT
01:27:02.483 --> 01:27:04.419
WOULD BE REPLACING THE EXISTING
01:27:04.485 --> 01:27:06.821
CONTRACTS WITH NEW CONTRACTS IN
01:27:06.888 --> 01:27:10.458
NEW CURRICULA -- ADDED.
01:27:10.525 --> 01:27:11.426
WOOD BEES THERE'S ACTUALLY
01:27:11.492 --> 01:27:12.427
INCREASING THE SIZE TO TREAT A
01:27:12.493 --> 01:27:13.928
LARGER POPULATION.
01:27:13.995 --> 01:27:15.263
WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE THE SAME
01:27:15.330 --> 01:27:18.866
PROGRAMS AT A RECENT AUDIT FOUND --
01:27:18.933 --> 01:27:20.368
MORE NOT EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING
01:27:20.435 --> 01:27:21.569
RECIDIVISM.
01:27:21.636 --> 01:27:22.670
WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS
01:27:22.737 --> 01:27:23.805
PROPOSAL CONTAINS SUFFICIENT
01:27:23.871 --> 01:27:26.207
RESOURCES TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT
01:27:26.274 --> 01:27:27.742
OF THESE PROGRAMS.
01:27:27.809 --> 01:27:28.876
PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE LARGE
01:27:28.943 --> 01:27:30.044
INCREASE.
01:27:30.111 --> 01:27:32.046
WE ALSO NOTE THAT IN THE
01:27:32.113 --> 01:27:33.815
PROPOSAL IT MENTIONS THAT SOME
01:27:33.881 --> 01:27:35.016
OF THAT CONTRACT STOP FOR
01:27:35.083 --> 01:27:36.618
ACTUALLY BRINGING IN CONTRABAND
01:27:36.684 --> 01:27:38.453
AND DRUGS.
01:27:38.519 --> 01:27:39.487
INTO THE PRISONS AND SO IT'S
01:27:39.554 --> 01:27:40.488
UNCLEAR IF THAT COULD ACTUALLY
01:27:40.555 --> 01:27:42.991
HAVE IT FOR THEIR ISSUE.
01:27:43.057 --> 01:27:44.959
AS SUCH DO THE UNTESTED IN HR WE
01:27:45.026 --> 01:27:46.561
RECOMMEND ADOPTING THIS OUT AS A
01:27:46.628 --> 01:27:48.663
PILOT -- STARTING WITH THE THREE
01:27:48.730 --> 01:27:50.832
FACILITIES THAT HAVE CORD AND
01:27:50.898 --> 01:27:53.935
EIGHTY PILOTS IN PROGRESS.
01:27:54.002 --> 01:27:54.769
WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE PILOT
01:27:54.836 --> 01:27:56.337
INCLUDE OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE THAT
01:27:56.404 --> 01:27:57.372
CONTRACTORS FOLLOW BEST
01:27:57.438 --> 01:27:59.340
PRACTICES AND INDEPENDENT
01:27:59.407 --> 01:28:01.175
EVALUATION BY RESEARCHERS TO
01:28:01.242 --> 01:28:02.443
DETERMINE THE EFFECT OF THE
01:28:02.510 --> 01:28:03.478
PROGRAM ON SUBSTANCE USE IN
01:28:03.544 --> 01:28:03.878
PRISONS.
01:28:03.945 --> 01:28:05.747
INMATE HEALTH AND OFFENDER
01:28:05.813 --> 01:28:07.348
OUTCOMES UPON REENTRY INCLUDING
01:28:07.415 --> 01:28:10.618
RECIDIVISM AN OVERDOSE DEATHS.
01:28:10.685 --> 01:28:11.386
BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S
01:28:11.452 --> 01:28:13.888
ESTIMATES WE AT ESTIMATE THAT
01:28:13.955 --> 01:28:14.989
APPLAUDED SIZE WOULD COST ABOUT
01:28:15.056 --> 01:28:17.258
TEN MILLION DOLLARS IN.
01:28:17.325 --> 01:28:17.792
TWENTY NINETEEN TWENTY AND
01:28:17.859 --> 01:28:18.893
UNLIKELY TO EXCEED TWENTY
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:20.194
MILLION DOLLARS AT FULL
01:28:20.261 --> 01:28:22.130
IMPLEMENTATION.
01:28:22.196 --> 01:28:23.564
SHOULD THE LEGISLATURE DECIDE TO
01:28:23.631 --> 01:28:25.366
IMPLEMENT STATEWIDE RATHER THAN
01:28:25.433 --> 01:28:26.968
DOING A PILOT WE RECOMMEND
01:28:27.035 --> 01:28:29.203
MODIFICATIONS SUCH AS REQUIRING
01:28:29.270 --> 01:28:30.972
A MORE GRADUAL IMPLEMENTATION.
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:32.774
AN ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT FROM
01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:34.142
SEA TO SEA ON THE RECEIVE OUR ON
01:28:34.208 --> 01:28:34.709
THE PROGRAM'S IMPLEMENTATION
01:28:34.776 --> 01:28:35.810
COSTS.
01:28:35.877 --> 01:28:37.745
AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION ONCE A
01:28:37.812 --> 01:28:39.580
PROGRAM IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
01:28:39.647 --> 01:28:44.986
THANK YOU [inaudible]
01:28:45.053 --> 01:28:50.124
DONE.
01:28:50.191 --> 01:28:51.559
BY A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I
01:28:51.626 --> 01:28:53.961
HAPPEN -- TO HAVE OTHER FOLKS
01:28:54.028 --> 01:28:54.796
NGUYEN SO inaudible]
01:28:54.862 --> 01:28:59.300
I'M.
01:28:59.367 --> 01:29:00.568
I'M WONDERING WHAT THE REACTION
01:29:00.635 --> 01:29:02.670
WOULD BE TO A PILOT AND IF WE
01:29:02.737 --> 01:29:04.338
WERE TO OPT TO DO A PILOT.
01:29:04.405 --> 01:29:07.108
WHAT -- EITHER WHAT NUMBER OF
01:29:07.175 --> 01:29:11.345
FACILITIES I MEAN.
01:29:11.412 --> 01:29:12.747
I APPRECIATE ALEJO'S
01:29:12.814 --> 01:29:16.551
RECOMMENDATION THOUGH IT SEEMED --
01:29:16.617 --> 01:29:18.920
I WON'T SAY ARBITRARY BUT THERE
01:29:18.986 --> 01:29:19.987
THERE WAS A LITTLE JUSTIFICATION
01:29:20.054 --> 01:29:22.757
AS TO WHICH WHY THE CHOICE OF
01:29:22.824 --> 01:29:24.525
THE FACILITIES THAT THE LA
01:29:24.592 --> 01:29:26.994
ALWAYS -- INDICATING AND WHY
01:29:27.061 --> 01:29:28.996
ONLY THREE SO I GUESS SOMEONE A
01:29:29.063 --> 01:29:31.232
REACTION TO IF WE WERE TO OPT TO
01:29:31.299 --> 01:29:34.502
DO A PILOT ONLY WHAT FACILITIES
01:29:34.569 --> 01:29:35.937
WOULD BE RECOMMENDED AND HOW
01:29:36.003 --> 01:29:38.072
MANY.
01:29:38.139 --> 01:29:40.208
MADAM CHAIR ON THE QUESTION OF
01:29:40.274 --> 01:29:43.444
OF A PILOT -- I GUESS SEVERAL
01:29:43.511 --> 01:29:45.747
REACTIONS -- THE THE REAL
01:29:45.813 --> 01:29:47.915
VISIONARY HERE IN THE ROOM ON
01:29:47.982 --> 01:29:49.851
THIS TOPIC.
01:29:49.917 --> 01:29:51.018
BUT YOU'LL SENATOR BELL.
01:29:51.085 --> 01:29:56.190
AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT --
01:29:56.257 --> 01:29:57.625
TO BE NICE TO HIM -- EVER
01:29:57.692 --> 01:30:01.295
NOTICED ME I'VE NEVER BEEN NICE
01:30:01.362 --> 01:30:02.730
REFERRAL [inaudible]
01:30:02.797 --> 01:30:06.200
THE NO ALL THIS IS ACTION.
01:30:06.267 --> 01:30:07.568
I THOUGHT I ALREADY HAD YOUR
01:30:07.635 --> 01:30:10.004
VOTE WITH DOLE BIGELOW BOLD --
01:30:10.071 --> 01:30:14.242
THE THAT'S RIGHT THAT'S WHAT HE
01:30:14.308 --> 01:30:17.345
SAID [inaudible]
01:30:17.411 --> 01:30:19.647
AS SENATOR.
01:30:19.714 --> 01:30:23.284
CONSERVATIVE SENATOR MEL --
01:30:23.351 --> 01:30:25.019
ENCOURAGED WITH GREAT UNTIL
01:30:25.086 --> 01:30:26.587
NATIONALLY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF
01:30:26.654 --> 01:30:29.757
A PILOT. FIVE YEARS AGO -- ONE
01:30:29.824 --> 01:30:30.892
MIGHT SAY HE BROWBEAT THE
01:30:30.958 --> 01:30:31.793
DEPARTMENT IN ME INTO DOING A
01:30:31.859 --> 01:30:33.594
PILOT.
01:30:33.661 --> 01:30:35.296
SO THE IDEA OF DOING A PILOT.
01:30:35.363 --> 01:30:37.832
WE'VE ALREADY DONE A PILOT --
01:30:37.899 --> 01:30:39.200
WE'RE IN THE THIRD YEAR OF THAT
01:30:39.267 --> 01:30:40.067
WILL BE REPORTING THE
01:30:40.134 --> 01:30:42.036
LEGISLATURE ON THE RESULTS OF
01:30:42.103 --> 01:30:46.174
THAT -- IN THE SAUDIS IT WAS AT
01:30:46.240 --> 01:30:48.643
THREE FACILITY AS WELL TO SEE I
01:30:48.709 --> 01:30:50.444
AM TO SEE I DON'T.
01:30:50.511 --> 01:30:52.280
AND A HOUSE OUT OF AN ASSET OF
01:30:52.346 --> 01:30:53.414
SO WE'RE INTO A THIRD SO WE WE
01:30:53.481 --> 01:30:55.683
WE ACTUALLY ALREADY I HAVE SOME
01:30:55.750 --> 01:30:56.450
SENSE.
01:30:56.517 --> 01:31:01.622
OF THE EFFICACY OF OF THE BASIC
01:31:01.689 --> 01:31:04.392
TREATMENT PROGRAM -- AND THE
01:31:04.458 --> 01:31:05.359
PROGRAM THAT WE ARE NOW OFFERING
01:31:05.426 --> 01:31:08.396
IS BUILT UPON OUR SUCCESS THERE.
01:31:08.462 --> 01:31:10.832
THE THE SECOND POINT -- DOING A
01:31:10.898 --> 01:31:12.500
PILOT HERE.
01:31:12.567 --> 01:31:15.670
DOESN'T REALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
01:31:15.736 --> 01:31:18.472
BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE GOT A
01:31:18.539 --> 01:31:21.108
PATIENTS IN EVERY FACILITY.
01:31:21.175 --> 01:31:22.643
IT'S NOT LIKE WE DO A PILOT
01:31:22.710 --> 01:31:24.946
WE'RE GONNA LEARN MUCH ABOUT HOW
01:31:25.012 --> 01:31:26.714
TO DO THIS SYSTEM WIDE.
01:31:26.781 --> 01:31:29.350
WE NEED TO ACTUALLY.
01:31:29.417 --> 01:31:31.886
DO THIS SYSTEM WIDE MUCH IN THE
01:31:31.953 --> 01:31:34.188
SAME WAY THAT WE DID HABSI --
01:31:34.255 --> 01:31:36.190
BECAUSE THE PATIENTS -- WILL THE
01:31:36.257 --> 01:31:38.192
GOAL HERE IS TO ANY PATIENT WHO
01:31:38.259 --> 01:31:40.094
IS ON THE ALREADY THIS TREATMENT
01:31:40.161 --> 01:31:42.263
REGIMEN -- WE NEED TO KEEP THEM
01:31:42.330 --> 01:31:43.431
ALL.
01:31:43.497 --> 01:31:44.966
WELL THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFTER
01:31:45.032 --> 01:31:46.868
THEY GO THROUGH OUR RECEIVING A
01:31:46.934 --> 01:31:47.768
RECEPTION THEY'RE GONNA BE
01:31:47.835 --> 01:31:49.103
SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE
01:31:49.170 --> 01:31:50.471
DEPARTMENT.
01:31:50.538 --> 01:31:52.106
WE NEED TO BE ABLE.
01:31:52.173 --> 01:31:54.175
TO PROVIDE THEM TREATMENT WHERE
01:31:54.242 --> 01:31:57.545
THEY ARE -- I THINK THE THIRD
01:31:57.612 --> 01:31:59.981
POINT -- IS.
01:32:00.047 --> 01:32:03.317
THERE'S AN URGENCY HERE -- THAT
01:32:03.384 --> 01:32:05.753
SUGGESTS TO ME THAT THE PILOTS
01:32:05.820 --> 01:32:07.088
THE WRONG RESPONSE.
01:32:07.154 --> 01:32:08.990
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST DEATH RATE
01:32:09.056 --> 01:32:11.125
FROM OVERDOSE IN THE COUNTRY AND
01:32:11.192 --> 01:32:12.126
OUR PRISONS COMPARED TO OTHER
01:32:12.193 --> 01:32:13.961
PRISONS.
01:32:14.028 --> 01:32:16.664
THIS LAST YEAR WE HAD EIGHT
01:32:16.731 --> 01:32:18.432
HUNDRED TRIPS TO THE EMERGENCY
01:32:18.499 --> 01:32:20.401
ROOM FOR OVER THOSE.
01:32:20.468 --> 01:32:22.603
AND THIS IS A SPIKE FROM SAY TWO
01:32:22.670 --> 01:32:24.705
YEARS AGO.
01:32:24.772 --> 01:32:27.408
SO YOU KNOW WHEN I DO A PILOT.
01:32:27.475 --> 01:32:29.210
WELL OKAY WE DO A PILOT WE COME
01:32:29.277 --> 01:32:31.112
BACK IN THREE YEARS WITH THE
01:32:31.178 --> 01:32:33.114
RESULTS OF THAT -- YOU YOU'RE
01:32:33.180 --> 01:32:35.216
DOWN FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS ON A
01:32:35.283 --> 01:32:37.585
PROBLEM THAT IS STARING US IN
01:32:37.652 --> 01:32:39.320
THE FACE RIGHT NOW.
01:32:39.387 --> 01:32:40.454
AND I THINK IT'S A PROBLEM OF
01:32:40.521 --> 01:32:41.856
SUFFICIENT DIMENSION THAT IT
01:32:41.923 --> 01:32:43.257
CALLS.
01:32:43.324 --> 01:32:44.592
FOR AN IMMEDIATE.
01:32:44.659 --> 01:32:47.862
RESPONSE OF THE SIZE AND SCOPE
01:32:47.929 --> 01:32:49.430
OF THOSE BEING PROPOSED.
01:32:49.497 --> 01:32:51.899
NO QUESTION I AGREE WITH THE LA
01:32:51.966 --> 01:32:53.000
OWES COMMENTS THEN THERE'S
01:32:53.067 --> 01:32:54.969
UNCERTAINTY A GREAT DEAL OF
01:32:55.036 --> 01:32:56.637
UNCERTAINTY.
01:32:56.704 --> 01:32:58.806
WELL THERE'S UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE
01:32:58.873 --> 01:33:01.008
WHAT WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS PROGRAM
01:33:01.075 --> 01:33:02.176
AT ALL.
01:33:02.243 --> 01:33:04.045
IN THE PRISONS.
01:33:04.111 --> 01:33:06.247
SO NATURALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE
01:33:06.314 --> 01:33:07.615
SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT.
01:33:07.682 --> 01:33:10.785
LEVEL OF CERTAIN EXPENDITURES.
01:33:10.851 --> 01:33:12.586
WELL AL I CAN PROMISES THAT AS
01:33:12.653 --> 01:33:14.522
WE HAVE DONE WITH EVERY PROGRAM
01:33:14.588 --> 01:33:18.125
WE'VE -- INITIATED -- BUT WE ARE
01:33:18.192 --> 01:33:20.695
GOING TO BE CONSCIOUS OF OF THE
01:33:20.761 --> 01:33:22.663
CITY EXPENDITURES OF THIS IS
01:33:22.730 --> 01:33:23.965
PUBLIC MONEY.
01:33:24.031 --> 01:33:25.333
OTHER WE NEED TO WORK AS HARD AS
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:28.536
E CAN TO GET THE EXPENSES OF
01:33:28.602 --> 01:33:30.338
THE PHARMACEUTICALS DOWN. TO
01:33:30.404 --> 01:33:31.973
MAKE SURE THAT THE HIRING THAT
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.041
WE DO WORKS TO MAKE SURE THAT
01:33:34.108 --> 01:33:36.644
THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HIRE ARE
01:33:36.711 --> 01:33:39.647
PROPERLY -- A MONITORED AND
01:33:39.714 --> 01:33:42.249
SUPERVISED.
01:33:42.316 --> 01:33:43.484
SO YOU KNOW THE THE I THINK THE
01:33:43.551 --> 01:33:46.554
RESPONSE THAT I WOULD GIVE TO
01:33:46.620 --> 01:33:48.155
THE UNCERTAINTY ARGUMENT IS.
01:33:48.222 --> 01:33:49.323
LIVE RECEIVERSHIP OVER THE LAST
01:33:49.390 --> 01:33:50.358
TEN YEARS HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD
01:33:50.424 --> 01:33:52.193
JOB OF IMPLEMENTING A LEVELING
01:33:52.259 --> 01:33:53.394
OUT.
01:33:53.461 --> 01:33:54.962
BIG CHANGES.
01:33:55.029 --> 01:33:56.330
AND I THINK THIS IS SIMPLY GOING
01:33:56.397 --> 01:33:57.765
TO BE ANOTHER CASE FOR WILL BE
01:33:57.832 --> 01:34:00.234
ABLE TO DO THAT -- FINALLY WITH
01:34:00.301 --> 01:34:03.404
RESPECT TO THE C. B. T. M.
01:34:03.471 --> 01:34:05.373
SUPERVISION ACTUALLY WILL BE
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:06.540
FINALLY I HAVE ONE MORE FINALLY.
01:34:06.607 --> 01:34:08.809
A BRITISH BACK -- TO IS A
01:34:08.876 --> 01:34:11.145
MONITORING OF THAT FUNCTION
01:34:11.212 --> 01:34:13.414
WITHIN CDC ARE -- I DON'T THINK
01:34:13.481 --> 01:34:14.048
THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR
01:34:14.115 --> 01:34:16.450
EXTERNAL MONITORING OR SPECIAL
01:34:16.517 --> 01:34:17.752
MONITORING.
01:34:17.818 --> 01:34:18.719
ON THE SECRETARY DEALS AND I
01:34:18.786 --> 01:34:22.757
HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO HAVE --
01:34:22.823 --> 01:34:24.592
A STEERING COMMITTEE.
01:34:24.658 --> 01:34:30.998
OF AB ESSENTIALLY OUR LEVEL.
01:34:31.065 --> 01:34:32.533
IN A FEW BELOW -- THAT'S GOING
01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:33.634
TO BE MEETING ROUTINELY UP TO
01:34:33.701 --> 01:34:35.436
MONITOR AND TRACK PROGRESS A
01:34:35.503 --> 01:34:36.604
WE'RE GONNA TREAT THIS VERY MUCH
01:34:36.670 --> 01:34:38.639
AS THOUGH IT WAS A LARGE IT
01:34:38.706 --> 01:34:41.208
PROJECT -- THAT REQUIRES THAT
01:34:41.275 --> 01:34:44.478
DEGREE HOME OF EXECUTIVE
01:34:44.545 --> 01:34:45.880
SUPERVISION AND MONITORING.
01:34:45.946 --> 01:34:48.115
AND I WOULD NOTE THAT CDC ARE
01:34:48.182 --> 01:34:49.683
OVER THE LAST DECADE.
01:34:49.750 --> 01:34:54.121
HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN
01:34:54.188 --> 01:34:55.589
LARGE IT PROJECTS.
01:34:55.656 --> 01:34:56.690
BOTH FARMS IN THE ELECTRONIC
01:34:56.757 --> 01:34:58.292
HEALTH RECORD WERE ENORMOUS
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:01.662
PROJECTS THAT REPLACED.
01:35:01.729 --> 01:35:03.164
I IN THE CASE OF PHAM SOME
01:35:03.230 --> 01:35:05.066
EIGHTEEN OR TWENTY DIFFERENT IT
01:35:05.132 --> 01:35:08.769
SYSTEMS WITH ONE SYSTEM. TO
01:35:08.836 --> 01:35:10.638
TRACK OF VENDORS.
01:35:10.704 --> 01:35:12.206
AND IT WORKS BEAUTIFULLY.
01:35:12.273 --> 01:35:13.574
SO I THINK THE DEPARTMENT
01:35:13.641 --> 01:35:14.975
ACTUALLY IS IN A GOOD POSITION
01:35:15.042 --> 01:35:17.878
TO SAY WE WE CAN DO THIS TYPE OF
01:35:17.945 --> 01:35:20.214
LARGE IMPLEMENTATION.
01:35:20.281 --> 01:35:22.349
FINAL COMMENT -- IN TERMS OF
01:35:22.416 --> 01:35:24.785
EXTERNAL EVALUATION -- I DON'T
01:35:24.852 --> 01:35:27.021
MIND EXTERNAL EVALUATION I DO
01:35:27.088 --> 01:35:29.323
WONDER WHETHER WE REALLY NEED.
01:35:29.390 --> 01:35:31.725
OF THE RECEIVERSHIP HAS BEEN AS
01:35:31.792 --> 01:35:34.261
OPEN AS IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE
01:35:34.328 --> 01:35:36.197
ABOUT OUR PERFORMANCE WITH OUR
01:35:36.263 --> 01:35:38.299
DASHBOARDS ARE REPORTS.
01:35:38.365 --> 01:35:40.101
I THINK WE HAVE THE CONFIDENCE
01:35:40.167 --> 01:35:42.103
TO EVALUATE -- OUR PERFORMANCE
01:35:42.169 --> 01:35:43.170
OURSELVES.
01:35:43.237 --> 01:35:46.674
IF THE PERFORMANCE IS BAD.
01:35:46.740 --> 01:35:48.476
WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT IT.
01:35:48.542 --> 01:35:49.009
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE HIDING
01:35:49.076 --> 01:35:51.745
ANYTHING -- AND TO SOME EXTENT
01:35:51.812 --> 01:35:55.449
EXTERNAL EVALUATION IS JUST IT
01:35:55.516 --> 01:36:00.221
ADDS ANOTHER COMPLICATION -- THE
01:36:00.287 --> 01:36:02.857
ARE FRANKLY WE COULD DO WITHOUT.
01:36:02.923 --> 01:36:04.892
BUT I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS --
01:36:04.959 --> 01:36:09.830
THE YOU MENTION THAT WE HAVE THE
01:36:09.897 --> 01:36:12.766
HIGHEST OVERDOSE RATE OF IN THE
01:36:12.833 --> 01:36:15.503
STATE PRISON SYSTEM NOW IT UP
01:36:15.569 --> 01:36:16.504
RIGHT FACTORED SKEWS ME.
01:36:16.570 --> 01:36:18.539
DEATHS FROM OVERDOSE YES FROM
01:36:18.606 --> 01:36:22.076
OVERDOSE OKAY NOW IS THAT
01:36:22.143 --> 01:36:23.811
FACTORED -- OUR POPULATION SINCE
01:36:23.878 --> 01:36:25.579
WE ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST
01:36:25.646 --> 01:36:28.115
POPULATION IS THAT ARE YOU MEAN
01:36:28.182 --> 01:36:29.383
THE RATE IN SO YET FACTORS IN
01:36:29.450 --> 01:36:31.152
THE POPULATION THE RATE IS ABOUT
01:36:31.218 --> 01:36:32.653
THREE TIMES WHAT THE AVERAGE
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:33.320
RADIOS.
01:36:33.387 --> 01:36:35.289
IN A CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES
01:36:35.356 --> 01:36:39.026
AROUND THE COUNTRY -- AND YET.
01:36:39.093 --> 01:36:42.096
AWAY -- I THINK -- YOUR COMMENTS
01:36:42.163 --> 01:36:43.664
WERE THAT THERE'S NOT OTHER
01:36:43.731 --> 01:36:45.666
STATE PRISONS DOING MEDICALLY
01:36:45.733 --> 01:36:47.334
ASSISTED TREATMENT.
01:36:47.401 --> 01:36:51.906
THERE ARE VERY FEW -- YOU KNOW
01:36:51.972 --> 01:36:54.942
WHAT'S ON ISLAND.
01:36:55.009 --> 01:36:56.544
THE WORLD ISLAND.
01:36:56.610 --> 01:36:58.345
MASSACHUSETTS BUT THOSE ARE THE
01:36:58.412 --> 01:36:58.913
STATE'S WEARING YELLOW RHODE
01:36:58.979 --> 01:37:00.548
ISLAND THEIR ENTIRE STATE
01:37:00.614 --> 01:37:02.216
FACILITY IS ONE BUILDING -- IT'S
01:37:02.283 --> 01:37:03.083
A LITTLE EASIER FROM THEM -- TO
01:37:03.150 --> 01:37:04.752
DO SOME OF THE COORDINATION WITH
01:37:04.818 --> 01:37:07.121
LOCALS SO BY THE THE CHALLENGE
01:37:07.188 --> 01:37:08.088
AREAS.
01:37:08.155 --> 01:37:11.058
A CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
01:37:11.125 --> 01:37:13.160
JUST LIKE SOCIETY GENERALLY.
01:37:13.227 --> 01:37:16.630
IS WHAT ARE WAY BEHIND THE CURVE.
01:37:16.697 --> 01:37:18.632
ONE ON TREATING THIS RELATIVELY
01:37:18.699 --> 01:37:19.600
RECENT.
01:37:19.667 --> 01:37:21.669
OF EXPLOSION IN THE OPIOID
01:37:21.735 --> 01:37:25.506
EPIDEMIC GIVEN THAT -- THERE'S
01:37:25.573 --> 01:37:26.774
NOT REALLY OTHER THAN TO MEANT
01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:28.509
STATE YOU MENTIONED OTHER STATES
01:37:28.576 --> 01:37:30.377
NECESSARILY USING MEDICALLY
01:37:30.444 --> 01:37:32.279
ASSISTED TREATMENT [inaudible]
01:37:32.346 --> 01:37:35.516
WHAT -- WHAT THE EXPLAINS OUR
01:37:35.583 --> 01:37:38.953
HIGH DEATHS?
01:37:39.019 --> 01:37:40.020
WELL WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAN
01:37:40.087 --> 01:37:41.322
CERTAINLY PART OF IT IS WE HAVE
01:37:41.388 --> 01:37:42.556
A LOT MORE DRUGS THAT GET INTO
01:37:42.623 --> 01:37:44.458
OUR PRISONS.
01:37:44.525 --> 01:37:45.926
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ONLY
01:37:45.993 --> 01:37:47.628
FACTOR BUT AB AND YOUNG DRUGS
01:37:47.695 --> 01:37:50.197
ARE GETTING IN -- THEY'RE BEING
01:37:50.264 --> 01:37:51.999
MAILED THEM ON THE BEING BROUGHT
01:37:52.066 --> 01:37:53.500
IN BY VISITORS THEY'RE BEING
01:37:53.567 --> 01:37:55.970
BROUGHT IN BY STAFF BOTH CUSTODY
01:37:56.036 --> 01:37:57.404
AND HEALTHCARE.
01:37:57.471 --> 01:37:58.706
THEY'RE BEING DROPPED OVER THE
01:37:58.772 --> 01:38:01.542
FENCE ON IN DRONES.
01:38:01.609 --> 01:38:03.277
AND WITH SOME OF THE MORE
01:38:03.344 --> 01:38:05.079
DANGEROUS RECENT -- OR
01:38:05.145 --> 01:38:07.414
FORMULATIONS OF FENNEL FOR
01:38:07.481 --> 01:38:11.719
EXAMPLE THE OLD TINY SPECKS IS
01:38:11.785 --> 01:38:14.388
ALL YOU NEED -- TO GET INTO THE
01:38:14.455 --> 01:38:15.322
FACILITY.
01:38:15.389 --> 01:38:16.957
AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EVEN
01:38:17.024 --> 01:38:18.626
WITH A FULL BLOWN WE'RE GONNA
01:38:18.692 --> 01:38:21.562
SEARCH EVERYBODY -- IN THE DRUGS
01:38:21.629 --> 01:38:24.832
ARE STILL GOING TO GET IN.
01:38:24.898 --> 01:38:26.333
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT.
01:38:26.400 --> 01:38:27.001
I'M NO QUESTION IF YOU CAN
01:38:27.067 --> 01:38:28.636
REDUCE THE PRESENCE OF DRUGS IN
01:38:28.702 --> 01:38:30.537
THE PRISON.
01:38:30.604 --> 01:38:32.373
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:34.041
BUT I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF
01:38:34.108 --> 01:38:35.576
EXPERIENCE T SUGGEST THAT.
01:38:35.643 --> 01:38:37.911
TRYING TO DO THIS ON THE SUPPLY
01:38:37.978 --> 01:38:40.514
SIDE ONLY.
01:38:40.581 --> 01:38:42.249
IT ISN'T GOING TO WORK WELL.
01:38:42.316 --> 01:38:44.218
WE NEED TO HAVE A DEMAND THE
01:38:44.285 --> 01:38:45.753
SOLUTION AND PART OF THE PROBLEM
01:38:45.819 --> 01:38:47.388
I RAISE THE ISSUE BECAUSE IF WE
01:38:47.454 --> 01:38:49.523
LOOK AT HOPE YOUR USE OVER THE
01:38:49.590 --> 01:38:50.457
COUNTRY.
01:38:50.524 --> 01:38:52.926
WHILE CALIFORNIA HAS IN TOTAL
01:38:52.993 --> 01:38:54.428
NUMBERS IT IN THIS IS.
01:38:54.495 --> 01:38:57.331
WHETHER IT OUTSIDE OF THE INMATE
01:38:57.398 --> 01:39:00.868
POPULATION [inaudible] FIVE A
01:39:00.934 --> 01:39:02.469
HEART LAW HI TOTAL NUMBER AS
01:39:02.536 --> 01:39:04.872
PROPORTION TO THE POPULATION WE
01:39:04.938 --> 01:39:06.874
ARE STILL LOWER THAN MANY OTHER
01:39:06.940 --> 01:39:08.409
STATES MANY OTHER STATES ARE
01:39:08.475 --> 01:39:10.544
EXPERIENCING THE OPIOID CRISIS
01:39:10.611 --> 01:39:11.945
FAR GREATER THAN WE ARE.
01:39:12.012 --> 01:39:15.349
SO I REYES SAID IN THAT.
01:39:15.416 --> 01:39:17.551
YET IT SEEMS TO BE THE OPPOSITE
01:39:17.618 --> 01:39:21.388
WITH IN OUR PRISON FACILITY AND
01:39:21.455 --> 01:39:23.390
I PARTLY REYES BECAUSE WELL THIS
01:39:23.457 --> 01:39:26.060
IS DEALING WITH MEDICALLY SISTER
01:39:26.126 --> 01:39:27.361
TREATMENT [inaudible]
01:39:27.428 --> 01:39:32.366
IT -- IF WE SEE OUR NUMBERS.
01:39:32.433 --> 01:39:33.167
OF PEOPLE USING YOUR FOR YOUR
01:39:33.233 --> 01:39:35.269
IT'S WITHIN OUR PRISONS INCREASE
01:39:35.336 --> 01:39:37.504
THEN THE COST TO US FOR THIS IS
01:39:37.571 --> 01:39:38.806
GOING TO INCREASE.
01:39:38.872 --> 01:39:40.941
AND EDITION ONLY MY QUESTION
01:39:41.008 --> 01:39:41.642
WOULD BE.
01:39:41.709 --> 01:39:44.745
THE SEMI CONNECTED IS.
01:39:44.812 --> 01:39:46.313
WITH THIS POTENTIALLY LEAD TO
01:39:46.380 --> 01:39:48.215
MORE DRUGS BEING BROUGHT IN
01:39:48.282 --> 01:39:48.515
[inaudible]
01:39:48.582 --> 01:39:53.987
AND IT'S AN INCREASE IN USAGE.
01:39:54.054 --> 01:39:55.255
WELL HAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE ONE
01:39:55.322 --> 01:39:59.460
OF THEARM -- ONE THE DATA
01:39:59.526 --> 01:40:00.694
ELEMENTS THAT WE SHOULD BE
01:40:00.761 --> 01:40:02.162
MONITORING AND MEASURING FOR
01:40:02.229 --> 01:40:03.464
SUCCESS.
01:40:03.530 --> 01:40:04.965
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT
01:40:05.032 --> 01:40:06.133
TO HAVE HAPPEN.
01:40:06.200 --> 01:40:07.468
WHAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE
01:40:07.534 --> 01:40:10.003
IS THAT THE NUMBER OF OF INMATES
01:40:10.070 --> 01:40:13.374
WHO -- ARE YOU ACTIVELY USING --
01:40:13.440 --> 01:40:16.143
OPIOIDS GOES DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.
01:40:16.210 --> 01:40:17.878
THAT WHEN THEY'RE RELEASED TO
01:40:17.945 --> 01:40:19.279
THEY'RE ABLE TO BE THERE
01:40:19.346 --> 01:40:21.482
TREATMENT IS ABLE TO CONTINUE.
01:40:21.548 --> 01:40:23.450
MAKING IT LESS LIKELY THAT THEY
01:40:23.517 --> 01:40:25.619
WILL THEM -- COME BACK INTO THE
01:40:25.686 --> 01:40:28.088
SYSTEM AS PART OF RECIDIVISM.
01:40:28.155 --> 01:40:31.091
SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT
01:40:31.158 --> 01:40:32.059
WHETHER ON WHAT THE YOU KNOW.
01:40:32.126 --> 01:40:33.894
WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED WHICH
01:40:33.961 --> 01:40:35.596
WOULD BE A BAD SCENARIO A WE
01:40:35.662 --> 01:40:36.430
SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHETHER
01:40:36.497 --> 01:40:37.865
THAT HAPPENS I DON'T BELIEVE IT
01:40:37.931 --> 01:40:39.299
WILL HAPPEN THE EXPERIENCE SO
01:40:39.366 --> 01:40:41.168
FAR AS YOU MENTIONED FOR THREE
01:40:41.235 --> 01:40:44.304
YEARS YOU HAPPEN TO TESTING THIS?
01:40:44.371 --> 01:40:45.506
HAS THE NUMBER OF HOPE YOUR
01:40:45.572 --> 01:40:49.276
USERS GOING DOWN IN THOSE
01:40:49.343 --> 01:40:51.278
FACILITIES.
01:40:51.345 --> 01:40:53.113
A COLLECTION DO YOU KNOW THE
01:40:53.180 --> 01:40:53.947
NUMBERS LAST TIME I LOOKED AT
01:40:54.014 --> 01:40:54.615
THIS WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO MY
01:40:54.681 --> 01:40:55.783
RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE NUMBERS
01:40:55.849 --> 01:40:57.518
HAVE GONE DOWN -- AND I BELIEVE
01:40:57.584 --> 01:41:01.622
ON RECIDIVISM MAY STILL BE TOO
01:41:01.688 --> 01:41:02.189
EARLY FOR TELL EARLY IN TWO
01:41:02.256 --> 01:41:04.158
SMALL [inaudible]
01:41:04.224 --> 01:41:05.592
FROM.
01:41:05.659 --> 01:41:06.593
WE KNOW THAT THE THE INMATES WHO
01:41:06.660 --> 01:41:08.662
HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROGRAM.
01:41:08.729 --> 01:41:09.830
AND WE DO HAVE TO DISTRICT
01:41:09.897 --> 01:41:11.832
SHOWING THAT I THINK IT'S 6270%
01:41:11.899 --> 01:41:13.467
HAVE STAYED ON THE TREATMENT
01:41:13.534 --> 01:41:14.868
PROGRAM.
01:41:14.935 --> 01:41:17.504
SO TO THAT EXTENT -- THAT'S BEEN
01:41:17.571 --> 01:41:19.173
SUCCESSFUL ENOUGH PROBABLY ALL
01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:20.741
YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE MEASURE
01:41:20.808 --> 01:41:22.142
IN A THREE YEAR PILOT ANYWAY.
01:41:22.209 --> 01:41:23.010
A YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO
01:41:23.076 --> 01:41:26.180
SHOW OF OF RECIDIVISM WHERE YOUR
01:41:26.246 --> 01:41:29.883
TOTAL -- PILOT POPULATION IS A
01:41:29.950 --> 01:41:30.484
HUNDRED HUNDRED AND FIFTY YOU
01:41:30.551 --> 01:41:33.053
JUST TALK A SEAT ON IMPACT WITH
01:41:33.120 --> 01:41:34.621
THOSE IN SMALL NUMBERS.
01:41:34.688 --> 01:41:35.255
CAN YOU DESCRIBE OTHER IN THIS
01:41:35.322 --> 01:41:36.256
OBVIOUSLY COVERING ALL
01:41:36.323 --> 01:41:38.392
FACILITIES WHAT ABOUT THE
01:41:38.459 --> 01:41:39.226
PROPOSAL THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT
01:41:39.293 --> 01:41:41.328
BEFORE US IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
01:41:41.395 --> 01:41:43.163
YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE THREE
01:41:43.230 --> 01:41:44.598
FACILITIES THAT YOU ARE
01:41:44.665 --> 01:41:46.200
CURRENTLY USING.
01:41:46.266 --> 01:41:50.304
MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT --
01:41:50.370 --> 01:41:51.805
I MAY TURN THE DOCTOR CAME IN
01:41:51.872 --> 01:41:52.673
FOR THAT DESCRIPTION GOOD THAT
01:41:52.739 --> 01:41:55.042
WILL NOT TO WANT TO MISS STATE --
01:41:55.108 --> 01:41:57.511
ELEMENTS OF THE PROGRAM.
01:41:57.578 --> 01:41:59.179
YEAH NO I THINK THIS IS A A MUCH
01:41:59.246 --> 01:42:00.814
MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH
01:42:00.881 --> 01:42:02.182
WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT
01:42:02.249 --> 01:42:03.383
THE THREE BIG PATIENT
01:42:03.450 --> 01:42:05.519
POPULATIONS THAT ARE AT THE
01:42:05.586 --> 01:42:08.188
HIGHEST RISK. FOR DEATH AND SO
01:42:08.255 --> 01:42:10.157
WHAT WE'D BE DOING IS CONTINUING
01:42:10.224 --> 01:42:12.326
PATIENTS ON MEDICATION ASSISTED
01:42:12.392 --> 01:42:14.328
TREATMENT AS THEY COME FROM THE
01:42:14.394 --> 01:42:16.930
THE COUNTY JAILS -- WERE ALSO
01:42:16.997 --> 01:42:18.899
HAVE A DEVELOPER VERY ROBUST
01:42:18.966 --> 01:42:21.702
PROCESS TO IDENTIFY PATIENTS.
01:42:21.768 --> 01:42:24.204
WHO ARE CURRENTLY WITH US PAGE
01:42:24.271 --> 01:42:26.106
FIFTEEN OF YOUR?
01:42:26.173 --> 01:42:27.741
AT THE BOTTOM CONTINUE.
01:42:27.808 --> 01:42:29.576
THE SECOND GROUP OF PATIENTS ARE
01:42:29.643 --> 01:42:31.345
REALLY THE THE FOLKS WHO HAVE
01:42:31.411 --> 01:42:33.046
ALREADY DECLARED THEMSELVES AT
01:42:33.113 --> 01:42:35.482
HIGH RISK -- WHO HAVE OVERDOSED
01:42:35.549 --> 01:42:37.017
AT LEAST ONCE?
01:42:37.084 --> 01:42:39.853
I ON ON A ON A DRUG.
01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:41.555
OR HAVE SOME OTHER COMPLICATION
01:42:41.622 --> 01:42:43.423
RELATED TO SUBSTANCE USE
01:42:43.490 --> 01:42:45.626
DISORDER -- SORT SO FOR EXAMPLE
01:42:45.692 --> 01:42:47.494
WE SEE SPINAL ABSCESSES OR
01:42:47.561 --> 01:42:48.529
INFECTIONS OF THE HEART
01:42:48.595 --> 01:42:49.863
ENDOCARDITIS.
01:42:49.930 --> 01:42:51.698
AND THEN THE THIRD GROUP THAT'S
01:42:51.765 --> 01:42:53.834
THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT AND THE
01:42:53.901 --> 01:42:55.369
THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE
01:42:55.435 --> 01:42:56.837
GOING TO BE FOCUSING.
01:42:56.904 --> 01:42:58.972
ON THE PATIENTS WHO ARE LEADING
01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:01.375
US IN THE NEXT FIFTEEN TO
01:43:01.441 --> 01:43:02.676
EIGHTEEN MONTHS.
01:43:02.743 --> 01:43:03.911
OUR GONNA DO.
01:43:03.977 --> 01:43:05.679
SCREENING ON EVERYONE OF THOSE
01:43:05.746 --> 01:43:07.714
PATIENTS LEAVING IF THEY SCREEN
01:43:07.781 --> 01:43:09.716
POSITIVE WILL BE DOING OF KIND
01:43:09.783 --> 01:43:11.285
OF A RISK ASSESSMENT FROM A
01:43:11.351 --> 01:43:12.819
CLINICAL PERSPECTIVE.
01:43:12.886 --> 01:43:15.422
AND BASED ON THAT ASSESSMENT IF
01:43:15.489 --> 01:43:19.927
THEY'RE MODERATE TO HIGH RISK --
01:43:19.993 --> 01:43:21.828
WE WILL -- DETERMINE THEIR
01:43:21.895 --> 01:43:22.462
TREATMENT NEEDS USING THE A SAM
01:43:22.529 --> 01:43:24.131
CRY TERRY THIS IS THE COMMUNITY
01:43:24.197 --> 01:43:27.000
A STANDARD IF YOU WILL -- TO
01:43:27.067 --> 01:43:27.801
DETERMINE WHETHER THEY NEED
01:43:27.868 --> 01:43:32.039
pI'M SORRY INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT
01:43:32.105 --> 01:43:33.206
OR OUTPATIENT.
01:43:33.273 --> 01:43:34.708
I AND THEN WE WILL START THEM ON
01:43:34.775 --> 01:43:36.610
A TREATMENT REGIMENT IF THEY'RE
01:43:36.677 --> 01:43:37.678
APPROPRIATE FOR MEDICATION
01:43:37.744 --> 01:43:39.079
ASSISTED TREATMENT WILL START
01:43:39.146 --> 01:43:40.581
THEM ON THE MEDICATION ASSISTED
01:43:40.647 --> 01:43:41.782
TREATMENT.
01:43:41.848 --> 01:43:44.818
AND REFER THEM TO TO D. R. P.
01:43:44.885 --> 01:43:46.253
FOR A COUNTY BEHAVIORAL THERAPY
01:43:46.320 --> 01:43:47.287
AND THEY'LL RECEIVE THAT
01:43:47.354 --> 01:43:48.722
TREATMENT.
01:43:48.789 --> 01:43:50.324
FOR AN AVERAGE OF OF TWELVE
01:43:50.390 --> 01:43:51.158
MONTHS.
01:43:51.224 --> 01:43:53.460
AND SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR TO
01:43:53.527 --> 01:43:55.829
DISCHARGE OF THROUGH OUR NURSING
01:43:55.896 --> 01:43:58.165
SERVICES OUR WHOLE PERSON CARE --
01:43:58.231 --> 01:44:00.033
WE WE GETTING THEM READY TO
01:44:00.100 --> 01:44:01.435
TRANSITION EITHER TWO THREE
01:44:01.501 --> 01:44:04.438
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION OR PAROLE --
01:44:04.504 --> 01:44:06.940
WE WILL BE WORKING. TO GET THEM
01:44:07.007 --> 01:44:08.909
AT CONNECTED IF YOU WILL FOR
01:44:08.976 --> 01:44:11.011
THEIR FIRST APPOINTMENTS
01:44:11.078 --> 01:44:12.045
INCLUDING AS SHE D. T..
01:44:12.112 --> 01:44:14.181
AS WELL AS WORKING WITH OTHERS
01:44:14.247 --> 01:44:15.215
TO SECURE HOUSING AND
01:44:15.282 --> 01:44:17.351
TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER SORT OF
01:44:17.417 --> 01:44:21.221
UNNECESSARY SOCIAL SERVICES.
01:44:21.288 --> 01:44:22.055
SO IT'S MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE
01:44:22.122 --> 01:44:23.957
REALLY FOCUSING ON THESE THESE
01:44:24.024 --> 01:44:26.426
LARGE GROUPS OF OF PATIENCE VERY
01:44:26.493 --> 01:44:29.162
HIGH RISK -- INCLUDING
01:44:29.229 --> 01:44:30.631
ESPECIALLY THE LARGE GROUP OF
01:44:30.697 --> 01:44:32.399
PEOPLE WHO WE LIVE LEAVING US IN
01:44:32.466 --> 01:44:34.001
THE NEXT FIFTEEN EIGHTEEN MONTHS
01:44:34.067 --> 01:44:35.636
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE AT VERY
01:44:35.702 --> 01:44:37.371
HIGH RISK OF DEATH.
01:44:37.437 --> 01:44:39.806
IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF OF FOR
01:44:39.873 --> 01:44:40.774
LEASE.
01:44:40.841 --> 01:44:43.744
AND WE ALSO A NO THEN -- MANY OF
01:44:43.810 --> 01:44:45.278
THE COUNTIES ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT
01:44:45.345 --> 01:44:46.780
ALL FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES MANY OF
01:44:46.847 --> 01:44:48.181
THE COUNTIES HAVE PUT IN THE
01:44:48.248 --> 01:44:50.017
INFRASTRUCTURE TO TAKE CARE OF
01:44:50.083 --> 01:44:51.652
THESE FOLKS SO IT GIVES US SOME
01:44:51.718 --> 01:44:53.186
TIME TO PUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE
01:44:53.253 --> 01:44:54.421
IN PLACE.
01:44:54.488 --> 01:44:56.089
WE CAN FOCUS ON THOSE LEAVING
01:44:56.156 --> 01:44:57.591
GET THEM TREATMENT GIVEN
01:44:57.658 --> 01:45:00.627
CONNECTED -- TO BEAR TRANSITION
01:45:00.694 --> 01:45:02.195
SERVICES AND THEIR FIRST
01:45:02.262 --> 01:45:04.297
APPOINTMENTS -- PARTICULARLY
01:45:04.364 --> 01:45:05.699
THOSE COUNTIES THAT HAVE THAT
01:45:05.766 --> 01:45:06.767
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE WHICH
01:45:06.833 --> 01:45:09.236
FORTUNATELY IS WHERE ABOUT 70%
01:45:09.302 --> 01:45:13.006
OF OUR PATIENTS ARE RELEASED.
01:45:13.073 --> 01:45:14.574
RECEIVED -- MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
01:45:14.641 --> 01:45:16.677
QUESTIONS CENTER MORE LIKE.
01:45:16.743 --> 01:45:21.848
MR KELSO -- JUST BECAUSE I AM
01:45:21.915 --> 01:45:24.418
THE NEW PERSON HERE YOU YOU WERE
01:45:24.484 --> 01:45:26.353
APPOINTED BY A FEDERAL JUDGE
01:45:26.420 --> 01:45:27.721
CORRECT YES.
01:45:27.788 --> 01:45:29.656
AND TO DEAL WITH THE HEALTH CARE
01:45:29.723 --> 01:45:31.224
IN THE PRISON SYSTEM WITH
01:45:31.291 --> 01:45:33.727
MEDICAL CARE MEDICAL CARE.
01:45:33.794 --> 01:45:35.629
BUT NOT.
01:45:35.696 --> 01:45:37.130
TO DEAL WITH THE POPULATION OF
01:45:37.197 --> 01:45:38.298
THE PRISON WOULD THAT BE A
01:45:38.365 --> 01:45:39.499
DIFFERENT FEDERAL JUDGE OR IS
01:45:39.566 --> 01:45:43.570
THAT THE SAME JUDGE.
01:45:43.637 --> 01:45:44.971
WE WE'VE BEEN MANDY OVERCROWDING
01:45:45.038 --> 01:45:47.174
LOS WELL THE OVERCROWDING.
01:45:47.240 --> 01:45:48.608
OVERCROWDING IS WHAT'S CALLED OF
01:45:48.675 --> 01:45:50.911
THOSE ARE THE THREE JUDGE PANEL.
01:45:50.977 --> 01:45:52.846
THAT DEALS WITH OVERCROWDING
01:45:52.913 --> 01:45:55.048
ISSUES SO THAT WOULD NOT BE --
01:45:55.115 --> 01:45:56.483
MY RESPONSIBILITY BUT YOU'RE
01:45:56.550 --> 01:45:57.617
STILL REPORTING TO THE SAME
01:45:57.684 --> 01:46:00.053
FEDERAL JUDGE THAT YOU STARTED
01:46:00.120 --> 01:46:02.689
WITH -- ON THE DIFFERENT FEDERAL
01:46:02.756 --> 01:46:04.758
JUDGE JUDGE -- HENDERSON -- TO
01:46:04.825 --> 01:46:06.059
SEVERAL YEARS AGO RETIRED WHAT
01:46:06.126 --> 01:46:08.228
BAND -- AT THIS POINT -- THERE'S
01:46:08.295 --> 01:46:09.529
A NEW FEDERAL JUDGE THING
01:46:09.596 --> 01:46:11.131
FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT IN SAN
01:46:11.198 --> 01:46:14.468
FRANCISCO GAY AND SO.
01:46:14.534 --> 01:46:15.769
IN IN THE MEANTIME.
01:46:15.836 --> 01:46:17.437
LIFE IS CHANGING THINGS
01:46:17.504 --> 01:46:20.140
REVOLVING WE HAVE NEW DRUGS.
01:46:20.207 --> 01:46:22.375
AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR MANDATE
01:46:22.442 --> 01:46:24.377
THEN.
01:46:24.444 --> 01:46:26.713
TO YES WHAT WHAT LITTLE THE
01:46:26.780 --> 01:46:27.581
APPROACH THAT THAT BUT I'VE
01:46:27.647 --> 01:46:30.984
TAKEN A IS TO TRY -- TO SET AS
01:46:31.051 --> 01:46:35.489
THE STANDARD FOR OUR PERFORMANCE.
01:46:35.555 --> 01:46:37.457
COMMUNITY STANDARDS OF CARE.
01:46:37.524 --> 01:46:39.860
SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE
01:46:39.926 --> 01:46:42.496
MAKE UP WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S
01:46:42.562 --> 01:46:44.331
HAPPENING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:46:44.397 --> 01:46:45.332
AND CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS
01:46:45.398 --> 01:46:46.466
THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST
01:46:46.533 --> 01:46:48.235
THREE OR FOUR YEARS HAS BEEN IN
01:46:48.301 --> 01:46:49.770
THE CONTEXT OF S. UT T..
01:46:49.836 --> 01:46:52.072
HAS BEEN A REAL CRYSTALLIZATION
01:46:52.139 --> 01:46:54.875
OF A NEED FOR A BETTER MEDICAL
01:46:54.941 --> 01:46:57.077
RESPONSE TO OF SUBSTANCE USE
01:46:57.144 --> 01:46:58.145
DISORDER.
01:46:58.211 --> 01:46:59.913
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
01:46:59.980 --> 01:47:00.981
WHETHER IT'S STYLE DRIFTER IF
01:47:01.047 --> 01:47:04.050
IT'S YOU KNOW.
01:47:04.117 --> 01:47:05.252
PART OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION
01:47:05.318 --> 01:47:06.686
BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH
01:47:06.753 --> 01:47:08.555
SYMPTOMS AND NOT THE ROOT CAUSE
01:47:08.622 --> 01:47:10.490
OF WHAT'S GOING ON SO YOU'VE
01:47:10.557 --> 01:47:12.092
EXPLAINED.
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:13.326
THAT THIS IS COMING INTO THE
01:47:13.393 --> 01:47:15.395
PRISON SYSTEM THROUGH DRONES OR
01:47:15.462 --> 01:47:18.265
WHO KNOWS HOW -- OUR OUR OUR
01:47:18.331 --> 01:47:21.034
INMATES REQUIRED TO DO A URINE
01:47:21.101 --> 01:47:23.470
TEST EVERY [inaudible]
01:47:23.537 --> 01:47:26.039
FEW DAYS [inaudible]
01:47:26.106 --> 01:47:30.343
THERE'S DEPENDING ON THE ON THIS
01:47:30.410 --> 01:47:31.444
BIG FOR D. AFTER JUST I GUESS I
01:47:31.511 --> 01:47:33.280
WILL NOT MISS SPEAKING -- UNDER
01:47:33.346 --> 01:47:33.780
OUR DIVISION OF A DAHLE
01:47:33.847 --> 01:47:35.348
INSTITUTIONS DEPENDING ON THE
01:47:35.415 --> 01:47:37.184
JOB THAT THE INMATE HAS THEY
01:47:37.250 --> 01:47:38.585
WILL BE REQUIRED TO DRUG TEST
01:47:38.652 --> 01:47:39.953
AND IN OUR TREATMENT PROGRAMS
01:47:40.020 --> 01:47:41.021
THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF
01:47:41.087 --> 01:47:42.322
THE POPULATION IS PARTICIPATING
01:47:42.389 --> 01:47:43.323
IN TREATMENT.
01:47:43.390 --> 01:47:44.891
THAT WOULD BE DRUG TESTED BUT
01:47:44.958 --> 01:47:46.126
OUR PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW AGAIN --
01:47:46.193 --> 01:47:47.294
JUST GEARED TOWARDS THE END OF
01:47:47.360 --> 01:47:49.462
THE INCARCERATIONS SO.
01:47:49.529 --> 01:47:52.232
NOT THE ENTIRE POPULATION AMPLY
01:47:52.299 --> 01:47:55.735
DESTRUCTIVE.
01:47:55.802 --> 01:47:57.237
HI JENNIFER BRANHAM.
01:47:57.304 --> 01:47:58.605
DIVISION OF ADULT INSTITUTIONS
01:47:58.672 --> 01:47:59.773
I'D LIKE TO HELP ADDRESS THE
01:47:59.840 --> 01:48:01.174
QUESTION ON THE ANALYSIS.
01:48:01.241 --> 01:48:03.577
WE DO HAVE RANDOM URINALYSIS
01:48:03.643 --> 01:48:05.445
REQUIREMENTS OF ALL INMATES BUT
01:48:05.512 --> 01:48:07.881
THOSE THAT ARE IN PROGRAMS OR AS
01:48:07.948 --> 01:48:09.983
PART OF THE IS THIS A MEATY ARM
01:48:10.050 --> 01:48:11.484
TREATMENT THERAPY.
01:48:11.551 --> 01:48:15.422
THEY HAVE A A HEIGHTENED
01:48:15.488 --> 01:48:17.357
REQUIREMENTS BEYOND THE RANDOM.
01:48:17.424 --> 01:48:17.858
WELL I'M JUST TRYING TO
01:48:17.924 --> 01:48:18.692
UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I GET TO
01:48:18.758 --> 01:48:20.160
EXPLAIN THIS TO CONSTITUENTS
01:48:20.227 --> 01:48:21.761
RIGHT RIGHT THAT WE'RE SPENDING
01:48:21.828 --> 01:48:23.630
MORE MONEY TO PROVIDE.
01:48:23.697 --> 01:48:25.966
ASSISTANCE AND BY KIDS TEACHERS
01:48:26.032 --> 01:48:26.833
ARE GONNA GO.
01:48:26.900 --> 01:48:29.035
HOW DO YOU OVERDOSE IN A PRISON
01:48:29.102 --> 01:48:30.136
HOW DOES THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S
01:48:30.203 --> 01:48:32.305
THE FIRST THING WE GOT UP TRYING
01:48:32.372 --> 01:48:33.106
TO FIGURE OUTSIDE [inaudible]
01:48:33.173 --> 01:48:35.475
YOU KNOW.
01:48:35.542 --> 01:48:37.143
SO I SO IT WE'VE GOT IT AND I'M
01:48:37.210 --> 01:48:38.445
JUST TRYING.
01:48:38.511 --> 01:48:40.180
TO UNDERSTAND HOW CAN YOU HELP
01:48:40.247 --> 01:48:40.480
[inaudible]
01:48:40.547 --> 01:48:43.984
THE PRISON SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE
01:48:44.050 --> 01:48:45.986
THAT DRUGS DON'T GET IN WHICH IS
01:48:46.052 --> 01:48:47.454
YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S
01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:48.955
SOMEHOW NOT HAPPENING BUT IT
01:48:49.022 --> 01:48:50.223
JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE FRONT
01:48:50.290 --> 01:48:50.991
LINE RATE.
01:48:51.057 --> 01:48:54.194
YES AND AND THAT WOULD BE BEYOND
01:48:54.261 --> 01:48:56.463
THE SCOPE OF FOR MY AUTHORITY
01:48:56.529 --> 01:48:58.665
AND THE FEDERAL CASE OKAY --
01:48:58.732 --> 01:49:00.734
AMAYA FORTY SIMPLY IS IF YOU
01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:04.537
HAVE A AN INMATE WHO HAS A
01:49:04.604 --> 01:49:06.006
MEDICAL PROBLEM.
01:49:06.072 --> 01:49:07.073
MAKE SURE THEY GET TREATED
01:49:07.140 --> 01:49:08.642
APPROPRIATELY AND AN OVERDOSE IS
01:49:08.708 --> 01:49:11.411
CONSIDERED A MEDICAL PROBLEM YES
01:49:11.478 --> 01:49:12.946
IT CERTAINLY OKAY I JUST.
01:49:13.013 --> 01:49:13.947
WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT
01:49:14.014 --> 01:49:17.484
DEFINITIONS YES CORRECT SO THEN
01:49:17.550 --> 01:49:19.019
IT DOES BECOME A MANDATE.
01:49:19.085 --> 01:49:20.720
AND SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY ASKING
01:49:20.787 --> 01:49:21.888
US FOR MONEY YOU'RE KIND OF
01:49:21.955 --> 01:49:23.123
ORDERING US.
01:49:23.189 --> 01:49:25.759
WELL UP TO BE A LITTLE CLEARER
01:49:25.825 --> 01:49:29.796
THIS IS A A A BUDGET REQUEST --
01:49:29.863 --> 01:49:31.731
OF FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
01:49:31.798 --> 01:49:33.533
SO THIS IS GOVERNOR NEWSOME'S
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:35.502
PROGRAM -- I'VE BEEN WORKING
01:49:35.568 --> 01:49:39.005
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE
01:49:39.072 --> 01:49:40.874
TWO HELP PROVIDE [inaudible]
01:49:40.941 --> 01:49:45.578
EXPERTISE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT
01:49:45.645 --> 01:49:46.880
WOULD SUCH A PROGRAM LOOK LIKE.
01:49:46.947 --> 01:49:48.715
BUT AS I'M SITTING HERE TODAY
01:49:48.782 --> 01:49:49.716
THIS IS I MEAN DEPARTMENT
01:49:49.783 --> 01:49:51.685
FINANCE WOULD CONCUR THIS IS THE
01:49:51.751 --> 01:49:53.353
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.
01:49:53.420 --> 01:49:55.789
OKAY SOLD IT'S NOT MANDATED BY
01:49:55.855 --> 01:49:58.959
THE FEDERAL JUDGE [inaudible]
01:49:59.025 --> 01:50:01.828
NOT YET [inaudible]
01:50:01.895 --> 01:50:03.496
ALL RIGHT.
01:50:03.563 --> 01:50:05.198
NOW IS THAT A PREDICTION OR
01:50:05.265 --> 01:50:07.600
THREAT.
01:50:07.667 --> 01:50:10.203
IT'S NOT A THREAT CERTAINLY --
01:50:10.270 --> 01:50:11.438
AND IT'S ALSO NOT A PREDICTION.
01:50:11.504 --> 01:50:13.573
BECAUSE OF THE JUDGE DOESN'T
01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:15.508
SHARE HIS VIEWS WITH ME ABOUT
01:50:15.575 --> 01:50:17.544
SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN YEP
01:50:17.610 --> 01:50:20.380
BEFORE THE COURT -- IT HAS ANY
01:50:20.447 --> 01:50:21.815
IT IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN
01:50:21.881 --> 01:50:24.551
RAISED IN THE LITIGATION.
01:50:24.617 --> 01:50:26.586
BY THE PLAINTIFFS.
01:50:26.653 --> 01:50:30.557
AM THE BY OF THREE CHORD EXPERTS.
01:50:30.623 --> 01:50:33.293
OF WHO THE COURT HAS APPOINTED.
01:50:33.360 --> 01:50:35.028
SO IT'S CLEARLY AN ISSUE THAT IN
01:50:35.095 --> 01:50:36.296
GENERAL TERMS IS BEFORE THE
01:50:36.363 --> 01:50:41.334
COURT -- MY OWN SENSE IS GIVEN --
01:50:41.401 --> 01:50:43.003
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE
01:50:43.069 --> 01:50:44.938
COMMUNITY THAT IT'S BEING
01:50:45.005 --> 01:50:46.573
RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A?
01:50:46.639 --> 01:50:48.842
MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
01:50:48.908 --> 01:50:52.178
PROBLEM -- IN THE TREATMENT THIS
01:50:52.245 --> 01:50:54.114
IS THE THE STANDARD TREATMENT
01:50:54.180 --> 01:50:55.715
NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE
01:50:55.782 --> 01:50:57.083
COMMUNITY.
01:50:57.150 --> 01:50:57.884
I THINK IF THE ISSUE WERE PUSHED
01:50:57.951 --> 01:50:59.919
REFER THE COURT THE COURT WOULD
01:50:59.986 --> 01:51:01.721
HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.
01:51:01.788 --> 01:51:04.791
IN NOT DIRECTING ME. TO
01:51:04.858 --> 01:51:07.260
IMPLEMENT SUCH A PROGRAM.
01:51:07.327 --> 01:51:08.928
BUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING NOW IS
01:51:08.995 --> 01:51:11.531
JUST MY LEGAL CONCLUSION MIKE
01:51:11.598 --> 01:51:13.800
GAS ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
01:51:13.867 --> 01:51:15.135
THIS WERE LITIGATED.
01:51:15.201 --> 01:51:18.204
UNFORTUNATELY IN MY JUDGMENT OF
01:51:18.271 --> 01:51:19.606
THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED.
01:51:19.672 --> 01:51:21.041
THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM WE SHOULD
01:51:21.107 --> 01:51:22.742
DO IT.
01:51:22.809 --> 01:51:24.244
AND IT MAY BE THE
01:51:24.310 --> 01:51:25.545
ADMINISTRATION'S DECIDED WELL
01:51:25.612 --> 01:51:26.913
BECAUSE THEY AGREE WITH SORT OF
01:51:26.980 --> 01:51:29.416
AT LEGAL ANALYSIS THAT IN FACT.
01:51:29.482 --> 01:51:31.885
THIS IS A MEDICAL ILLNESS YOU
01:51:31.951 --> 01:51:33.553
HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL
01:51:33.620 --> 01:51:35.088
REQUIREMENT TO TREATED.
01:51:35.155 --> 01:51:36.523
BUT I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SPEAK
01:51:36.589 --> 01:51:38.024
FOR THE ADMINISTRATION ON THEIR
01:51:38.091 --> 01:51:40.060
JUSTIFICATION I'M JUST DELIGHTED
01:51:40.126 --> 01:51:40.894
TO SEE YOU.
01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:42.462
I AM ON THE BUDGET AT THIS POINT
01:51:42.529 --> 01:51:44.097
WHAT'S MORE OF A PROACTIVE
01:51:44.164 --> 01:51:45.799
POSTURE AS AND WITH THAT YOU'RE
01:51:45.865 --> 01:51:48.535
SUPPORTING AS OPPOSED TO HAVING.
01:51:48.601 --> 01:51:50.303
TO HAVE US BEREACTIVE BY A
01:51:50.370 --> 01:51:52.405
FEDERAL JUDGE HE I THINK THAT'S
01:51:52.472 --> 01:51:54.207
A VERY FAIR WHERE I'M DESCRIBING
01:51:54.274 --> 01:51:59.179
AN END SIMPLY MY REACTION -- TO
01:51:59.245 --> 01:52:01.281
THE NUMBER OF DEATHS -- THAT I
01:52:01.347 --> 01:52:01.815
THINK CAN BE AVOIDED BY
01:52:01.881 --> 01:52:03.483
IMPLEMENTING THIS TYPE OF A
01:52:03.550 --> 01:52:06.119
PROGRAM AND I KNOW SOMETIMES
01:52:06.186 --> 01:52:07.954
DEATHS OF INMATES -- AND THE
01:52:08.021 --> 01:52:09.823
FACT THAT EIGHT HUNDRED OF THEM
01:52:09.889 --> 01:52:12.092
ARE HAVING OVERDOSES SOME PEOPLE
01:52:12.158 --> 01:52:13.226
MAY NOT VIEW THAT.
01:52:13.293 --> 01:52:15.562
WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY.
01:52:15.628 --> 01:52:18.231
BUT I AM REQUIRED TO VIEW THAT
01:52:18.298 --> 01:52:20.500
WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY WE HAVE
01:52:20.567 --> 01:52:22.235
REDUCED AFFORDABLE DEATHS.
01:52:22.302 --> 01:52:25.772
IN EVERY OTHER CATEGORY.
01:52:25.839 --> 01:52:28.141
THIS ONE NOW -- IT POPS UP AND
01:52:28.208 --> 01:52:29.876
SO I DO FEEL A SENSE OF URGENCY
01:52:29.943 --> 01:52:33.012
ABOUT RESPONDING TO THIS CRISIS.
01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:34.647
WAS A LAY PERSON I WOULD SEE A
01:52:34.714 --> 01:52:38.985
PRISON AS A LARGE DETOX CENTER.
01:52:39.052 --> 01:52:40.920
AS OVER A MUCH IN THE SAME WAY
01:52:40.987 --> 01:52:44.858
THAT -- IN THE PRISONS ARE NOW
01:52:44.924 --> 01:52:45.458
WERE YOU PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH
01:52:45.525 --> 01:52:45.758
TREATMENT.
01:52:45.825 --> 01:52:48.161
BUT IT IT BE GREAT TO HAVE DETOX
01:52:48.228 --> 01:52:50.396
IN A A LITTLE OF A TREATMENT BUT
01:52:50.463 --> 01:52:51.965
AS LONG TERM.
01:52:52.031 --> 01:52:53.266
SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE RELEASED
01:52:53.333 --> 01:52:54.501
THEY CAN CONTINUE ON THAT
01:52:54.567 --> 01:52:56.703
TREATMENT WAS NOT JUST DETOX IS
01:52:56.769 --> 01:52:58.905
ACTUALLY LONG TERM CHRONIC
01:52:58.972 --> 01:53:02.375
TREATMENT -- HOPEFULLY IN THE
01:53:02.442 --> 01:53:04.177
END OF BEING ONE REASON WHY
01:53:04.244 --> 01:53:06.446
MAYBE THAT PERSON CAN BE
01:53:06.513 --> 01:53:09.249
SUCCESSFUL ON THE OUTSIDE.
01:53:09.315 --> 01:53:12.252
SO IF I GET CANCER WHILE I'M IN
01:53:12.318 --> 01:53:14.287
PRISON THAT'S ONE THING BUT IF I
01:53:14.354 --> 01:53:16.189
CHOOSE TO TAKE DRUGS.
01:53:16.256 --> 01:53:17.257
PATTERSON AGAIN THAT'S ALL
01:53:17.323 --> 01:53:20.026
THAT'S A SELF CHOICE I HAVE NOW.
01:53:20.093 --> 01:53:21.594
CREATED A HEALTH PROBLEM.
01:53:21.661 --> 01:53:23.796
AT MY CHOICE.
01:53:23.863 --> 01:53:25.999
DO I THEN BECOME RESPONSIBLE TO
01:53:26.065 --> 01:53:28.268
PAY FOR THE DRUGS SAID YOU'RE
01:53:28.334 --> 01:53:30.170
GOING TO GIVE ME TO OFFSET.
01:53:30.236 --> 01:53:31.538
THAT DO I HAVE SOME KIND OF
01:53:31.604 --> 01:53:32.939
RESPONSIBLE TO REIMBURSE TO
01:53:33.006 --> 01:53:35.074
TAXPAYERS OR IS ADDICTION
01:53:35.141 --> 01:53:36.376
CONSIDERED.
01:53:36.442 --> 01:53:38.077
AN ILLNESS AND THEREFORE THE
01:53:38.144 --> 01:53:39.279
EVERYTHING IS KICK THIS PAID FOR
01:53:39.345 --> 01:53:42.882
FOR FREE ADDICTION IS CONSIDERED --
01:53:42.949 --> 01:53:45.018
MOVED TO BE AN ILLNESS IN MUCH
01:53:45.084 --> 01:53:48.054
THE SAME WAY AS DIABETES.
01:53:48.121 --> 01:53:50.390
YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE ARE
01:53:50.456 --> 01:53:53.927
DIABETICS I HAVE MADE A CHOICE.
01:53:53.993 --> 01:53:55.295
THEY EAT TOO MUCH SUGAR.
01:53:55.361 --> 01:53:58.164
THEY DON'T EXERCISE.
01:53:58.231 --> 01:54:00.033
OF SO WELL WILL WIRE WHY DON'T
01:54:00.099 --> 01:54:01.034
THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR
01:54:01.100 --> 01:54:02.335
DIABETIC TREATMENT WELL THAT'S
01:54:02.402 --> 01:54:04.804
NOT THE WAY IT WORKS IN THE FREE
01:54:04.871 --> 01:54:07.674
WORLD EITHER -- YOU.
01:54:07.740 --> 01:54:10.810
DIABETIC COMES TO A DOCTOR NEEDS
01:54:10.877 --> 01:54:12.345
MEDICALLY NECESSARY TREAT.
01:54:12.412 --> 01:54:14.080
THIS IS THIS IS VERY MUCH BUTTE
01:54:14.147 --> 01:54:17.217
AT THIS POINT AS SIMILAR TO THAT.
01:54:17.283 --> 01:54:18.384
OF SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE SORT OF
01:54:18.451 --> 01:54:21.688
AN ADDICTION ACTUALLY HANDLES OF
01:54:21.754 --> 01:54:23.122
CHEMICAL CHANGES.
01:54:23.189 --> 01:54:24.791
IN THEIR BRAIN.
01:54:24.857 --> 01:54:27.093
THAT ADDICTS THEM THAT MAKES THE
01:54:27.160 --> 01:54:30.063
CRAVING FOR THE DRUG WAS.
01:54:30.129 --> 01:54:31.798
ABSOLUTELY IRRESISTIBLE.
01:54:31.864 --> 01:54:34.934
NOT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY BUT IN
01:54:35.001 --> 01:54:36.369
SOMEWHAT THE SAME WAY THAT I'VE
01:54:36.436 --> 01:54:37.870
GOT A CRAVING FOR THAT NEXT
01:54:37.937 --> 01:54:41.507
CANDY BAR -- THOUGH IT IS VIEWED
01:54:41.574 --> 01:54:42.775
AS A MEDICAL ILLNESS.
01:54:42.842 --> 01:54:44.510
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ASK
01:54:44.577 --> 01:54:46.512
QUESTIONS ONE A ONE MR KELSO
01:54:46.579 --> 01:54:47.413
THANK YOU MANAGER.
01:54:47.480 --> 01:54:48.948
CERTAINLY.
01:54:49.015 --> 01:54:49.882
I'M.
01:54:49.949 --> 01:54:55.722
WHAT I WANTED -- TO REYES. FIVE
01:54:55.788 --> 01:54:57.457
THE CLARIFICATION OF ITS
01:54:57.523 --> 01:54:58.858
ADMINISTRATIVE PROPOSAL.
01:54:58.925 --> 01:55:01.661
I'M WE THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS BEEN
01:55:01.728 --> 01:55:03.329
APPROVING OVER THE LAST COUPLE
01:55:03.396 --> 01:55:06.866
OF YEARS INCREASING ALLOCATIONS.
01:55:06.933 --> 01:55:09.002
FOR I'M WILL CALL INTERDICTING
01:55:09.068 --> 01:55:11.971
OR WHERE FOR NOTES THAT ANYWAY
01:55:12.038 --> 01:55:13.172
TRYING TO KEEP THE DRUGS OUT.
01:55:13.239 --> 01:55:15.174
AND IT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
01:55:15.241 --> 01:55:16.876
MONEY.
01:55:16.943 --> 01:55:19.479
AND YET EVEN WITH OUR INCREASES
01:55:19.545 --> 01:55:22.282
OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS WHERE WE
01:55:22.348 --> 01:55:24.417
HAVE AMPED UP. FIVE DRUG
01:55:24.484 --> 01:55:27.754
SNIFFING DOG SCREENINGS --
01:55:27.820 --> 01:55:29.622
SEARCHES A WHOLE VARIETY OF
01:55:29.689 --> 01:55:32.392
THINGS WE ARE SEEING.
01:55:32.458 --> 01:55:34.027
THIS DRAMATIC INCREASE AN
01:55:34.093 --> 01:55:36.896
OVERDOSE DEATHS SO.
01:55:36.963 --> 01:55:39.032
DO YOU KNOW ONE WOULD HAVE TO
01:55:39.098 --> 01:55:39.966
SAY.
01:55:40.033 --> 01:55:42.235
THAT SO FAR ARE EXPENDITURES ON
01:55:42.302 --> 01:55:44.037
TRYING TO PREVENT THE DRUGS FROM
01:55:44.103 --> 01:55:45.405
COMING IN.
01:55:45.471 --> 01:55:47.974
HAVE YOU MET MAYBE IF WE HAD
01:55:48.041 --> 01:55:49.309
NONE OF FOR THEM WE DO HAVE
01:55:49.375 --> 01:55:51.044
WRITTEN MORE OVERDOSES BUT THERE
01:55:51.110 --> 01:55:52.912
ISN'T THAT A GREAT CORRELATION
01:55:52.979 --> 01:55:55.715
BETWEEN OUR EXPENDITURES IN
01:55:55.782 --> 01:55:56.416
TRYING TO STOP THE DRUGS FROM
01:55:56.482 --> 01:55:57.450
COMING IN.
01:55:57.517 --> 01:56:00.520
AND A REDUCTION IN OVERDOSES AN
01:56:00.586 --> 01:56:02.488
OVERDOSE DEATHS.
01:56:02.555 --> 01:56:04.791
SO -- HI I THINK IT IS
01:56:04.857 --> 01:56:09.962
APPROPRIATE FOR US TO LOOK AT I
01:56:10.029 --> 01:56:11.631
MEAN IT IT.
01:56:11.698 --> 01:56:13.466
IT MAKES NO SENSE ON THE ONE
01:56:13.533 --> 01:56:14.901
HAND THAT.
01:56:14.967 --> 01:56:16.436
PEOPLE WOULD OVERDOSE IMPRISONED
01:56:16.502 --> 01:56:18.371
AND YET THAT IS THE CIRCUMSTANCE
01:56:18.438 --> 01:56:24.677
WE HALF -- SO AS I THINK FOR FOR
01:56:24.744 --> 01:56:26.579
ME THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT
01:56:26.646 --> 01:56:28.147
EXPENDITURE.
01:56:28.214 --> 01:56:31.684
IT'S THERE ARE WHAT APPEARS.
01:56:31.751 --> 01:56:33.920
AND CLEARLY STAFF CAN TALK MORE
01:56:33.986 --> 01:56:35.888
TO THE RECEIVER NUMBERS OR TO
01:56:35.955 --> 01:56:37.090
THE ADMINISTRATION.
01:56:37.156 --> 01:56:39.425
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE LA OWES --
01:56:39.492 --> 01:56:42.862
WHAT THE HIGHLIGHTED REGARDING --
01:56:42.929 --> 01:56:44.263
THE FIVE MILLION.
01:56:44.330 --> 01:56:46.666
FOUR I NALOXONE FOR THOSE WHO
01:56:46.733 --> 01:56:48.568
ARE BEING RELEASED AS MAY BE --
01:56:48.634 --> 01:56:50.603
A NUMBER THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED
01:56:50.670 --> 01:56:52.372
CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE BY
01:56:52.438 --> 01:56:56.175
THEIR OWN ESTIMATES ONLY -- FOUR
01:56:56.242 --> 01:56:57.543
THOUSAND SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
01:56:57.610 --> 01:56:59.212
PEOPLE BEING RELEASED EACH YEAR
01:56:59.278 --> 01:57:01.080
SO BECAUSE OF A VARIETY OF
01:57:01.147 --> 01:57:02.515
THINGS LIKE THAT I WANNA HOLD IT
01:57:02.582 --> 01:57:04.117
OPEN I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT
01:57:04.183 --> 01:57:06.185
OF TIME. TO GET SOME OF THIS
01:57:06.252 --> 01:57:08.588
NAIL DOWN BUT CLEARLY I THINK WE
01:57:08.654 --> 01:57:10.123
DO WANT TO GET IT NAILED DOWN
01:57:10.189 --> 01:57:13.593
BEFORE WE WOULD -- ACT.
01:57:13.659 --> 01:57:15.194
UGH BUT THE FINAL QUESTION I
01:57:15.261 --> 01:57:18.631
WOULD HAVE -- BEFORE WE JUST
01:57:18.698 --> 01:57:19.432
HOLD IT OPEN.
01:57:19.499 --> 01:57:21.868
IS HOW CAN WE ENSURE I MEAN
01:57:21.934 --> 01:57:24.537
THERE'S YOU KNOW PART OF THIS IS
01:57:24.604 --> 01:57:26.672
THAT CAN FOR CONTINUITY OF CARE
01:57:26.739 --> 01:57:28.508
ONCE THE RELEASED.
01:57:28.574 --> 01:57:31.144
AND THAT'S WHAT THE NLOXONE
01:57:31.210 --> 01:57:33.212
DOSES ARE.
01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:33.946
FOR GIVING PEOPLE WHEN THEY
01:57:34.013 --> 01:57:37.216
LEAVE BUT WHAT IN WHAT WAYS THIS
01:57:37.283 --> 01:57:40.219
IS KIND OF PREDICATED ON THAT
01:57:40.286 --> 01:57:43.122
ONCE THE PERSON IS RELEASED THAT
01:57:43.189 --> 01:57:44.090
THERE.
01:57:44.157 --> 01:57:45.858
THERE ARE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
01:57:45.925 --> 01:57:47.794
WOULD CONTINUE TO BE TREATED SO
01:57:47.860 --> 01:57:51.063
IN WHAT WAYS DO IS THIS.
01:57:51.130 --> 01:57:53.332
PROGRAM ENSURING THAT.
01:57:53.399 --> 01:57:54.000
IF AT ALL.
01:57:54.066 --> 01:57:55.067
I THINK DOCTOR KING INCOMES BE
01:57:55.134 --> 01:57:57.437
TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN ONE
01:57:57.503 --> 01:58:00.239
OF OUR BIGGEST FOCUSES AS HOW WE
01:58:00.306 --> 01:58:02.141
COORDINATE THIS WITH LOCAL
01:58:02.208 --> 01:58:03.176
PROVIDERS.
01:58:03.242 --> 01:58:04.777
PARTICULARLY IN THOSE FIRST TWO
01:58:04.844 --> 01:58:07.013
WEEKS SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE
01:58:07.079 --> 01:58:09.215
CONNECTION MADE WHEN THEM AT
01:58:09.282 --> 01:58:09.749
THAT POINT YOU KNOW YOUR
01:58:09.816 --> 01:58:12.585
PATERNAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ON
01:58:12.652 --> 01:58:14.554
THE THE PATIENT AND LOCAL
01:58:14.620 --> 01:58:17.957
PROVIDERS BUT DR GAININGCAM
01:58:18.024 --> 01:58:19.459
EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
01:58:19.525 --> 01:58:20.860
YES AGAIN I THINK SOME OF THE
01:58:20.927 --> 01:58:22.295
RESOURCES THAT WE REQUESTED
01:58:22.361 --> 01:58:23.396
PARTICULARLY THE NURSING
01:58:23.463 --> 01:58:25.364
RESOURCES AND SOME OF THE SOCIAL
01:58:25.431 --> 01:58:26.766
WORKER OUT RESOURCES.
01:58:26.833 --> 01:58:28.367
A VERY SPECIFICALLY ARE
01:58:28.434 --> 01:58:30.636
TARGETING -- PATIENTS WHO ARE
01:58:30.703 --> 01:58:31.804
LEAVING BOTH ON COMMUNITY
01:58:31.871 --> 01:58:33.840
SUPERVISION AND A SUBSET OF
01:58:33.906 --> 01:58:35.708
THOSE PATIENTS WHO ARE LEAVING
01:58:35.775 --> 01:58:39.111
THROUGH PAROLE -- TO WORK WITH
01:58:39.178 --> 01:58:41.080
THE COMMUNITY PROVIDERS AND TO
01:58:41.147 --> 01:58:42.949
GET THOSE PATIENTS CONNECTED TO
01:58:43.015 --> 01:58:45.017
THEIR FIRST APPOINTMENTS ALONG
01:58:45.084 --> 01:58:47.053
WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICES THE
01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:48.754
WRAPAROUND SOCIAL SERVICES.
01:58:48.821 --> 01:58:52.492
I WILL SAY THAT -- AGAIN IN OUR
01:58:52.558 --> 01:58:54.193
PILOT THE TWO PILOTS
01:58:54.260 --> 01:58:55.862
INSTITUTIONS ONE OF THE REALLY
01:58:55.928 --> 01:58:57.830
BIG SUCCESS STORIES PROBABLY THE
01:58:57.897 --> 01:58:59.198
MOST IMPORTANT.
01:58:59.265 --> 01:59:02.268
LESSON LEARNED FROM THOSE PILOTS
01:59:02.335 --> 01:59:04.403
IS THAN US JUST USING A SMALL
01:59:04.470 --> 01:59:05.905
NUMBER OF SOCIALWORKERS WITH
01:59:05.972 --> 01:59:07.073
THE ADDICTION SPECIALIST
01:59:07.139 --> 01:59:08.508
DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS
01:59:08.574 --> 01:59:10.376
OUT IN THE COUNTIES.
01:59:10.443 --> 01:59:14.280
WE WERE ABLE TO GET -- ALMOST
01:59:14.347 --> 01:59:16.182
80% OF OUR PATIENTS CONNECTED TO
01:59:16.249 --> 01:59:18.017
COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND THOSE
01:59:18.084 --> 01:59:21.287
FIRST APPOINTMENTS AND THAT IS.
01:59:21.354 --> 01:59:22.622
THREE TO FOUR TIMES HIGHER THAN
01:59:22.688 --> 01:59:25.725
WE SEE -- WITHOUT THOSE --
01:59:25.791 --> 01:59:27.727
TRANSITION RESOURCES REALLY
01:59:27.793 --> 01:59:29.562
HELPING THAT PERSON HAND OVER
01:59:29.629 --> 01:59:31.864
HAND MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS SO --
01:59:31.931 --> 01:59:33.733
WE DO A VERY POOR JOB QUITE
01:59:33.799 --> 01:59:36.569
FRANKLY -- BUT WITH THESE PILOTS
01:59:36.636 --> 01:59:38.070
AND THAT MODEL WHERE WE HAVE A
01:59:38.137 --> 01:59:40.339
SOCIAL WORKER THE NURSES AND THE
01:59:40.406 --> 01:59:42.375
ADDICTION SPECIALIST -- WE DID
01:59:42.441 --> 01:59:43.709
CONNECT THOSE PATIENTS AT IN
01:59:43.776 --> 01:59:47.346
ABOUT 76% WHICH IS VERY VERY
01:59:47.413 --> 01:59:49.682
HIGH.
01:59:49.749 --> 01:59:51.017
RIGHT SO BEFORE A ASK FOR PUBLIC
01:59:51.083 --> 01:59:52.652
COMMENT IS THERE ANY OTHER
01:59:52.718 --> 01:59:54.220
COMMON OR QUESTIONS BY
01:59:54.287 --> 01:59:55.621
DEPARTMENT FINANCE CáC C<c.cyan>G</c>
01:59:55.688 --> 01:59:56.722
COME DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE I
01:59:56.789 --> 01:59:58.324
THINK I WOULD JUST ECHO THE
01:59:58.391 --> 02:00:00.326
RECEIVERS COMMENTS ON THIS BEING
02:00:00.393 --> 02:00:02.395
AN ADMINISTRATION PROPOSAL --
02:00:02.461 --> 02:00:03.663
THE DEATH RATE HAS INCREASED
02:00:03.729 --> 02:00:04.830
SIGNIFICANTLY THAT'S AN
02:00:04.897 --> 02:00:07.700
IMPORTANT FACTOR INTO HOW WE
02:00:07.767 --> 02:00:08.901
RECOGNIZE WHERE ADDITIONAL
02:00:08.968 --> 02:00:12.738
RESOURCES MAY BE NEEDED -- I
02:00:12.805 --> 02:00:13.539
THINK THE RECEIVERS.
02:00:13.606 --> 02:00:15.007
FOCUS ON THIS PROGRAM IS
02:00:15.074 --> 02:00:16.175
DEFINITELY NECESSARY GIVEN THE
02:00:16.242 --> 02:00:18.077
ENERGY INTEGRATION WITH THAT
02:00:18.144 --> 02:00:20.646
HEALTHCARE SYSTEM GENERALLY SO
02:00:20.713 --> 02:00:21.747
WELL THERE'S DEFINITELY OVERLAP
02:00:21.814 --> 02:00:24.250
IN APPEARANCE OF MAYBE EXPANSION
02:00:24.317 --> 02:00:26.152
AND ACTIVITIES I THINK -- THE
02:00:26.218 --> 02:00:28.154
THE RECEIVER STAY FOCUSED ON THE
02:00:28.220 --> 02:00:29.522
ISSUE OF THE DEATH RATE IN
02:00:29.589 --> 02:00:31.057
ADDRESSING THAT I THINK THERE'S
02:00:31.123 --> 02:00:32.391
QUITE A BIT IN THIS PROPOSAL
02:00:32.458 --> 02:00:34.126
THAT HASN'T BEEN THIS DISCUSSED
02:00:34.193 --> 02:00:35.761
IN DEPTH TODAY THAT IS ACTUALLY.
02:00:35.828 --> 02:00:37.330
RELATED TO CDC ARE PROPER AND I
02:00:37.396 --> 02:00:39.699
THINK THOSE ARE ALSO -- VERY
02:00:39.765 --> 02:00:42.301
IMPORTANT RESOURCES TO MAKING AN
02:00:42.368 --> 02:00:43.469
EFFECTIVE PROGRAM SO
02:00:43.536 --> 02:00:43.769
[inaudible]
02:00:43.836 --> 02:00:46.339
THAT'S IT.
02:00:46.405 --> 02:00:46.939
I'M PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SIDE
02:00:47.006 --> 02:00:56.282
OF YES PLEASE GO AHEAD.
02:00:56.349 --> 02:00:57.116
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR IN
02:00:57.183 --> 02:00:58.718
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS MARIE
02:00:58.784 --> 02:01:00.086
SALINAS CHIEF OPERATING ALSO FOR
02:01:00.152 --> 02:01:01.454
CENTERPOINT.
02:01:01.520 --> 02:01:02.521
BUT I'M HERE REPRESENTING
02:01:02.588 --> 02:01:04.056
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
02:01:04.123 --> 02:01:06.125
ALCOHOL AND DRUG PROGRAM
02:01:06.192 --> 02:01:08.527
EXECUTIVES -- AND I WANT TO
02:01:08.594 --> 02:01:11.063
PRESENT OUR COLLECTIVE VIEW.
02:01:11.130 --> 02:01:13.332
ON THIS PROPOSAL WHICH WILL AIR.
02:01:13.399 --> 02:01:14.667
IN FAVOR OF MOST OF THIS
02:01:14.734 --> 02:01:20.072
PROPOSAL -- IF IT'S A LONG WE
02:01:20.139 --> 02:01:21.540
CAN YOU CAN GIVE IT TO US IN
02:01:21.607 --> 02:01:23.509
WRITING BECAUSE WE ARE HOLDING
02:01:23.576 --> 02:01:24.310
IT OPEN.
02:01:24.377 --> 02:01:25.845
IF YOU WANT TO STIR SUMMARIZE
02:01:25.911 --> 02:01:27.346
AND AND GIVE US THE COMMENTS IN
02:01:27.413 --> 02:01:28.080
WRITING THAT WOULD BE
02:01:28.147 --> 02:01:30.116
APPRECIATED WE WILL PRESENT A
02:01:30.182 --> 02:01:31.817
FORMAL LETTER TO THE OFFICER
02:01:31.884 --> 02:01:33.786
WILL BE DELIVERED TODAY AND I
02:01:33.853 --> 02:01:35.955
WILL SUMMARIZE IT. ONE OF THE
02:01:36.022 --> 02:01:38.090
THINGS THAT THAT CAP HE SUPPORTS
02:01:38.157 --> 02:01:40.092
AS THE CONFERENCE OF YOUR
02:01:40.159 --> 02:01:41.694
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.
02:01:41.761 --> 02:01:42.561
AND A TREATABLE CHRONIC HEALTH
02:01:42.628 --> 02:01:43.329
CONDITION AS A TREATABLE HEALTH
02:01:43.396 --> 02:01:45.031
CONDITION.
02:01:45.097 --> 02:01:46.966
THE INCLUSION OF A FULL RANGE OF
02:01:47.033 --> 02:01:50.136
FOOD OF FTA DRUGS.
02:01:50.202 --> 02:01:52.638
APPROVED MEDICATED ASSISTED
02:01:52.705 --> 02:01:53.572
TREATMENT FOR ALCOHOL USE
02:01:53.639 --> 02:01:55.341
DISORDERS.
02:01:55.408 --> 02:01:56.475
AND HOPE YOUR USE DISORDER.
02:01:56.542 --> 02:01:58.544
THE INCLUSION OF RECESS A
02:01:58.611 --> 02:02:01.013
STRATIFICATION TREATMENT STAGING
02:02:01.080 --> 02:02:02.915
THE ISSUE OF THE PEOPLE WITH THE
02:02:02.982 --> 02:02:04.583
HIGHEST NEED A PART I HAVE. FOR
02:02:04.650 --> 02:02:05.951
SERVICES AS A SYSTEM IS
02:02:06.018 --> 02:02:07.787
DEVELOPED AND EFFORTS THAT
02:02:07.853 --> 02:02:09.088
PARALLEL.
02:02:09.155 --> 02:02:10.022
AND FEED INTO THE STATE'S
02:02:10.089 --> 02:02:12.658
COMMUNITY BASED DRUG AND ALCOHOL%
02:02:12.725 --> 02:02:14.460
ORGANIZED DELIVERY SYSTEM I'LL
02:02:14.527 --> 02:02:21.534
SUMMARIZE THE OTHER AREAS.
02:02:21.600 --> 02:02:23.969
KATHY HAS QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
02:02:24.036 --> 02:02:25.604
ABOUT THE FOLLOWING THINGS.
02:02:25.671 --> 02:02:27.973
LACK OF ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE --
02:02:28.040 --> 02:02:30.309
DMC ODS SYSTEM AND CREATE AN
02:02:30.376 --> 02:02:33.479
INCREASE COSTS AND COMPLEXITY.
02:02:33.546 --> 02:02:35.581
CURRENTLY -- DOES PROPOSAL THAT
02:02:35.648 --> 02:02:37.783
NURSES PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT
02:02:37.850 --> 02:02:39.752
PORTION OF THE WORK IS GOING TO
02:02:39.819 --> 02:02:41.020
BE ADMINISTERED.
02:02:41.087 --> 02:02:42.655
THIS IS NOT TRADITIONAL WORKED
02:02:42.722 --> 02:02:45.624
AT NURSES DO -- THIS
02:02:45.691 --> 02:02:47.393
TRADITIONALLY DONE BY CERTIFIED
02:02:47.460 --> 02:02:48.894
COUNCILS.
02:02:48.961 --> 02:02:51.797
AND BY -- LICENSED CLINICIANS.
02:02:51.864 --> 02:02:54.200
OUR NURSES RECEIVED VERY LITTLE.
02:02:54.266 --> 02:02:56.402
EDUCATION.
02:02:56.469 --> 02:02:57.770
OUR ON SUBSTANCE USE OUR
02:02:57.837 --> 02:02:59.305
TREATMENT.
02:02:59.371 --> 02:03:05.511
AND A PROPOSES THE FOR COMPARING --
02:03:05.578 --> 02:03:07.379
THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN
02:03:07.446 --> 02:03:10.082
ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROPOSAL
02:03:10.149 --> 02:03:11.383
IS GOING TO BE A REALLY HAVE A
02:03:11.450 --> 02:03:13.452
HEAVY LIFT IS NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE
02:03:13.519 --> 02:03:15.888
WE WE ARE WE ENCOURAGED INCREASE
02:03:15.955 --> 02:03:16.856
SALARIES.
02:03:16.922 --> 02:03:18.758
THAT ARE NEAR TO BE COMPETITIVE
02:03:18.824 --> 02:03:19.859
THE HARD TO STAFF.
02:03:19.925 --> 02:03:21.994
HOWEVER THERE JUST ISN'T THE
02:03:22.061 --> 02:03:23.429
WORK FORCE CURRENTLY IN THE
02:03:23.496 --> 02:03:25.931
STATE SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A
02:03:25.998 --> 02:03:28.567
PHASED IN APPROACH RATHER THAN.
02:03:28.634 --> 02:03:30.770
JUST TO MAKE IT WHERE EVERYBODY
02:03:30.836 --> 02:03:33.839
HAS TO BE CERTIFIED IS GOING TO
02:03:33.906 --> 02:03:35.241
BE REALLY DIFFICULT STAFF
02:03:35.307 --> 02:03:35.541
[inaudible]
02:03:35.608 --> 02:03:39.078
ARE WE REALLY ENCOURAGED THE
02:03:39.145 --> 02:03:41.447
DISTRIBUTION OF THE LOCKS ALL.
02:03:41.514 --> 02:03:44.450
IN THE PRISONS NOT JUST AT THIS
02:03:44.517 --> 02:03:45.351
CHARGE.
02:03:45.417 --> 02:03:47.486
WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM
02:03:47.553 --> 02:03:49.455
WITH -- MH OVERDOSING WHEN THEY
02:03:49.522 --> 02:03:50.823
ARE RELEASED FROM PRISON.
02:03:50.890 --> 02:03:52.758
HOWEVER AS YOU CAN HEAR THE
02:03:52.825 --> 02:03:54.226
NUMBERS THERE'S A NUMBER OF
02:03:54.293 --> 02:03:55.494
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OLD B. AND
02:03:55.561 --> 02:03:57.163
IN THE PRESENCE.
02:03:57.229 --> 02:04:00.065
SO WE DON'T WANT IT JUST TO BE --
02:04:00.132 --> 02:04:01.600
ADMINISTRATIVE DISCHARGE.
02:04:01.667 --> 02:04:03.135
BUT WHILE THE IN THE PRISONS IS
02:04:03.202 --> 02:04:04.703
VERY LITTLE RISK.
02:04:04.770 --> 02:04:09.575
OF ABUSE ALL HALL FROM INMATES
02:04:09.642 --> 02:04:11.644
HAPPEN THE LOCKS ALL.
02:04:11.710 --> 02:04:16.215
THE AVAILABILITY AND UNLOCKS ON
02:04:16.282 --> 02:04:18.150
I'LL LAVE IT AT THAT AND OUT
02:04:18.217 --> 02:04:20.052
MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A COPY.
02:04:20.119 --> 02:04:22.688
OF THE FULL PRESENTATION.
02:04:22.755 --> 02:04:24.757
AND IF WE CAN GET THAT SOONER
02:04:24.824 --> 02:04:26.292
THAN LATER AS WE'LL CALL YOU YOU
02:04:26.358 --> 02:04:27.359
WILL GET IT TODAY WE AREMEETING
02:04:27.426 --> 02:04:29.228
AGAIN ON THURSDAY YOU WILL GET
02:04:29.295 --> 02:04:30.863
IT TODAY.
02:04:30.930 --> 02:04:33.032
WILL BE DELIVERED TODAY OKAY.
02:04:33.098 --> 02:04:33.933
SO ON THE WHOLE THIS ITEM OPEN
02:04:33.999 --> 02:04:36.335
AND WE ARE GOING TO RECESS NOW.
02:04:36.402 --> 02:04:37.002
AND WE WILL RETURN AT
02:04:59.458 --> 02:05:01.093
START THE PRESENTATION TO OUR
02:05:01.160 --> 02:05:02.828
OTHER MEMBER JOINS US.
02:05:02.895 --> 02:05:04.196
BUT THE ITEM THAT.
02:05:04.263 --> 02:05:07.066
THE ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA GO.
02:05:07.132 --> 02:05:10.636
TO IS -- ITEM ZERO EIGHT TWENTY
02:05:10.703 --> 02:05:13.973
UNDER DOJ ISSUE TWENTY SIX SO IF
02:05:14.039 --> 02:05:15.841
WE HAVE -- ANYONE FROM
02:05:15.908 --> 02:05:19.178
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO PRESENT.
02:05:19.245 --> 02:05:19.945
THAT WOULD BE GREAT THEY CAN
02:05:20.012 --> 02:05:25.985
COME TO THE TABLE NOW.
02:05:26.051 --> 02:05:28.187
EXCELLENT SO -- I PUT THE GAVEL
02:05:28.254 --> 02:05:30.756
DOWN BUT I DIDN'T FORMALLY SAY.
02:05:30.823 --> 02:05:34.126
OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ARE RATHER OUR
02:05:34.193 --> 02:05:37.062
SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE SEVEN
02:05:37.129 --> 02:05:37.830
FIVE PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE
02:05:37.897 --> 02:05:39.598
JUDICIARY IS RETURNED FROM
02:05:39.665 --> 02:05:40.733
RECESS.
02:05:40.799 --> 02:05:45.738
AND WE ARE STARTING WITH -- ITEM
02:05:45.804 --> 02:05:46.372
ZERO EIGHT TWENTY DEPARTMENT OF
02:05:46.438 --> 02:05:48.207
JUSTICE ISSUE TWENTY SIX PAYMENT
02:05:48.274 --> 02:05:49.675
OF SETTLEMENTS AND JUDGMENTS GO
02:05:49.742 --> 02:05:50.676
AHEAD.
02:05:50.743 --> 02:05:52.144
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR CHRIS RYAN
02:05:52.211 --> 02:05:53.479
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
02:05:53.545 --> 02:05:54.914
ON THIS ISSUE RELATES TO A BILL
02:05:54.980 --> 02:05:57.049
THAT WAS PASSED -- BACK IN TWO
02:05:57.116 --> 02:05:59.518
THOUSAND FIFTEEN IT WAS AB SEVEN
02:05:59.585 --> 02:06:00.552
SEVEN FIVE IT WAS AND AN ACTOR
02:06:00.619 --> 02:06:01.954
REQUIRED CERTAIN REPRODUCTIVE
02:06:02.021 --> 02:06:03.622
HEALTH CARE FACILITIES. TO MAKE
02:06:03.689 --> 02:06:05.057
CERTAINDISCLOSURES TO CLIENTS
02:06:05.124 --> 02:06:06.325
OR PTENTIAL CLIENTS.
02:06:06.392 --> 02:06:07.426
IN EACH OF THE FOLLOWING FIVE
02:06:07.493 --> 02:06:09.128
CASES A PLAINTIFF OR A GROUP OF
02:06:09.194 --> 02:06:10.229
PLAINTIFFS MOUNTED OF FREE
02:06:10.296 --> 02:06:11.797
SPEECH -- AND OR FREEDOM OF
02:06:11.864 --> 02:06:13.465
RELIGION CONSTITUTIONAL
02:06:13.532 --> 02:06:14.867
CHALLENGE TO THE ACT.
02:06:14.934 --> 02:06:17.202
NAMING -- AGP SIR AS A DEFENDANT
02:06:17.269 --> 02:06:17.903
ALTHOUGH THE ACT WAS NEVER
02:06:17.970 --> 02:06:19.738
ENFORCED BY THE DEPARTMENT
02:06:19.805 --> 02:06:21.807
JUSTICE -- THESE LAWSUITS FOR TO
02:06:21.874 --> 02:06:24.510
PREVENT THE APPLICATION OF AB
02:06:24.576 --> 02:06:25.210
SEVEN SEVEN FIVE OR THE
02:06:25.277 --> 02:06:26.779
PLAINTIFFS IN THESE FIVE CASES
02:06:26.845 --> 02:06:28.480
DID NOT SEEK MONETARY DAMAGES.
02:06:28.547 --> 02:06:31.116
AND WE'RE SEEKING ONLY TO
02:06:31.183 --> 02:06:32.017
INVALIDATE THE ACT.
02:06:32.084 --> 02:06:32.751
PLAINTIFFS EVENTUALLY SUCCEEDED
02:06:32.818 --> 02:06:34.186
IN INVALIDATING THE ACT BY
02:06:34.253 --> 02:06:36.088
TAKING THE LEAD CASE -- WHICH IS
02:06:36.155 --> 02:06:37.957
THE NTIONAL INSTITUTE OF FAMILY
02:06:38.023 --> 02:06:39.591
AND LIFE ADVOCATES PEOPLE SERRA.
02:06:39.658 --> 02:06:42.094
TO THE SUPREME COURT THE JUNE
02:06:42.161 --> 02:06:42.828
TWENTY EIGHTEEN US SUPREME COURT
02:06:42.895 --> 02:06:44.596
DECISION AND THE FLORA THE THE
02:06:44.663 --> 02:06:45.331
SERRA RULED THAT THE DEVIL
02:06:45.397 --> 02:06:46.565
PLAINTIFFS WERE ENTITLED TO A
02:06:46.632 --> 02:06:47.967
PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION.
02:06:48.033 --> 02:06:49.435
AGAINST ENFORCEMENT OF THE ACT
02:06:49.501 --> 02:06:52.037
EFFECTIVELY SECURING VICTORY FOR
02:06:52.104 --> 02:06:52.638
THE ALL THE PLAINTIFFS IN ALL
02:06:52.705 --> 02:06:53.439
THE CASES.
02:06:53.505 --> 02:06:55.274
THIS ISSUE -- IN THE MAY REVISE
02:06:55.341 --> 02:06:56.875
IS FOR TWO POINT ONE MILLION
02:06:56.942 --> 02:06:58.177
DOLLARS TO PAY THOSE ATTORNEYS
02:06:58.243 --> 02:07:00.946
FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
02:07:01.013 --> 02:07:02.548
PLAINTIFFS [inaudible]
02:07:02.614 --> 02:07:06.285
YOUR QUESTIONS.
02:07:06.352 --> 02:07:07.920
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR -- I WOULD
02:07:07.987 --> 02:07:09.521
WIN WIN OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS
02:07:09.588 --> 02:07:10.489
HERE I ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY
02:07:10.556 --> 02:07:11.190
WHAT.
02:07:11.256 --> 02:07:13.592
DID HE SPENT WITH HIS DEPARTMENT
02:07:13.659 --> 02:07:14.560
IS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
02:07:14.626 --> 02:07:15.761
YOU KNOW ALL THESE ACTIVITIES
02:07:15.828 --> 02:07:17.796
AND AND THE EMAIL THAT WE GOT
02:07:17.863 --> 02:07:21.233
BACK WAS EIGHT HUNDRED AND
02:07:21.300 --> 02:07:21.800
SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS SO
02:07:21.867 --> 02:07:23.802
TAXPAYERS PAID. TO OUR STAFF IS
02:07:23.869 --> 02:07:25.070
IT THE AG'S OFFICE AND NOW WE'RE
02:07:25.137 --> 02:07:26.071
GONNA SPEND ANOTHER TWO POINT
02:07:26.138 --> 02:07:27.506
ONCE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO
02:07:27.573 --> 02:07:30.142
THREE MILLION. FOR FOR ONE
02:07:30.209 --> 02:07:31.777
PARTICULAR BILL THAT YOU KNOW
02:07:31.844 --> 02:07:32.711
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WAS
02:07:32.778 --> 02:07:34.213
UNCONSTITUTIONAL FROM THE GET GO
02:07:34.279 --> 02:07:35.447
YOU DIDN'T I'M NOT A LAWYER BUT
02:07:35.514 --> 02:07:36.448
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THERE'S
02:07:36.515 --> 02:07:37.850
GONNA BE SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS
02:07:37.916 --> 02:07:39.718
PARTICULAR BILL.
02:07:39.785 --> 02:07:42.054
SO I JUST WONDER.
02:07:42.121 --> 02:07:43.889
WHAT DEPARTMENT BEARS THE BRUNT
02:07:43.956 --> 02:07:44.523
OF THIS TWO POINT ONE MILLION IS
02:07:44.590 --> 02:07:47.893
IT?
02:07:47.960 --> 02:07:49.561
WHO THE WHAT WHAT WHERE DOES IT
02:07:49.628 --> 02:07:50.963
COME FROM BORDERS ORDER WHO'S
02:07:51.030 --> 02:07:52.765
PAYING THIS FOR THIS FOR THIS IS
02:07:52.831 --> 02:07:53.932
A TO YOUR POINT -- EARLIER THERE
02:07:53.999 --> 02:07:55.801
WAS THE STAFF TIME ASSOCIATED
02:07:55.868 --> 02:07:56.835
WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND THAT WAS
02:07:56.902 --> 02:07:58.303
THE THE EMAIL THAT WE SHARED
02:07:58.370 --> 02:07:59.738
WITH THE STAFF -- THE COSTS I
02:07:59.805 --> 02:08:01.440
THINK WAS EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY
02:08:01.507 --> 02:08:02.041
THOUSAND THIS IS TO PAY THOSE
02:08:02.107 --> 02:08:03.242
SETTLEMENT FEES FOR THE THE
02:08:03.308 --> 02:08:04.810
PLAINTIFFS AND SO.
02:08:04.877 --> 02:08:06.111
TYPICALLY THIS WOULD BE THROUGH
02:08:06.178 --> 02:08:07.946
THE CLAIMS BILL PROCESS -- AND
02:08:08.013 --> 02:08:09.448
SO THESE TYPES OF CASES ARE PAID
02:08:09.515 --> 02:08:10.983
THROUGH THAT CLAIM SO PROCESS
02:08:11.050 --> 02:08:14.520
BECAUSE THESE PAYMENTS ARE DUE --
02:08:14.586 --> 02:08:15.354
AND I END UP LOOKING TO
02:08:15.421 --> 02:08:16.255
DEPARTMENT FINANCE FOR TIMING ON
02:08:16.321 --> 02:08:17.790
THIS BUT THESE THESE PAYMENTS
02:08:17.856 --> 02:08:19.725
ARE DUE PROBABLY EARLIER THAN
02:08:19.792 --> 02:08:21.393
THE NEXT CLAIMS WILL PROCESS OF
02:08:21.460 --> 02:08:22.628
DOING AVOID PAYING ADDITIONAL
02:08:22.694 --> 02:08:24.863
INTEREST AND AND PENALTIES AND
02:08:24.930 --> 02:08:25.564
THINGS LIKE THAT ON THESE.
02:08:25.631 --> 02:08:29.001
SETTLED -- AGREEMENTS -- IT WAS
02:08:29.068 --> 02:08:30.202
PUT INTO THE BUDGET -- THE MAY
02:08:30.269 --> 02:08:31.437
REVIVE I GUESS CHRIS THAT THE
02:08:31.503 --> 02:08:32.905
QUESTION IS DOES IT COME OUT OF
02:08:32.971 --> 02:08:35.007
THE DOJ'S BUDGET.
02:08:35.074 --> 02:08:37.810
NUMBER SIX OKAY NOW I'M OUT OF A
02:08:37.876 --> 02:08:39.044
DO WE SELF INSURE FOR THESE.
02:08:39.111 --> 02:08:40.312
ARE THESE ARE TYPICALLY PAID --
02:08:40.379 --> 02:08:41.480
FROM A GENERAL FUND
02:08:41.547 --> 02:08:44.249
APPROPRIATION OR OTHER SPECIAL
02:08:44.316 --> 02:08:45.384
FUNDS IN THE CLAIMS BILL PROCESS
02:08:45.451 --> 02:08:47.252
BUT THERE'S A SPECIAL DEPARTMENT
02:08:47.319 --> 02:08:55.527
ON THAT BUDGETS ITS CLAIMS.
02:08:55.594 --> 02:08:58.230
THERE'S A YOU WANNA.
02:08:58.297 --> 02:08:59.331
FINANCE FINANCE THANK YOU --
02:08:59.398 --> 02:09:00.833
TYPICALLY THAT CLEANS BILL --
02:09:00.899 --> 02:09:01.433
WHEN IT GOES THROUGH IT'LL SAY
02:09:01.500 --> 02:09:02.101
IT IS HEREBY APPROPRIATED TO THE
02:09:02.167 --> 02:09:02.768
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO PAY FOR
02:09:02.835 --> 02:09:04.870
THESE VERY SPECIFIC CLAIMS -- I
02:09:04.937 --> 02:09:05.871
THINK THERE WAS JUST ONE THAT
02:09:05.938 --> 02:09:07.573
HAPPENED -- THIS PAST COUPLE
02:09:07.639 --> 02:09:09.308
MONTHS AGO SB FOUR EIGHTEEN DID
02:09:09.374 --> 02:09:10.776
VERY SIMILAR THING WHENEVER
02:09:10.843 --> 02:09:11.577
THERE'S SETTLEMENTS AGAINST THE
02:09:11.643 --> 02:09:12.211
STATE.
02:09:12.277 --> 02:09:13.946
IT'S TYPICALLY PAY FOR OUT OF
02:09:14.012 --> 02:09:15.180
DIRECT APPROPRIATIONS FROM A
02:09:15.247 --> 02:09:17.015
CLAIMS BELL -- WE DO ALSO
02:09:17.082 --> 02:09:17.983
INCLUDE THEM IN THE BUDGET
02:09:18.050 --> 02:09:19.184
THOUGH DEPENDING ON THE TIMING
02:09:19.251 --> 02:09:20.452
OF WHEN THEY'RE DO AND THE
02:09:20.519 --> 02:09:21.987
TIMING OF WHEN THE CLING STILL
02:09:22.054 --> 02:09:23.789
HAPPENS -- AT THE SOURCE OF THE
02:09:23.856 --> 02:09:26.425
FUNDS IN THE CLAIMS BILL WOULD
02:09:26.492 --> 02:09:29.027
BE -- IT'S I CAN BE IT CAN VERY
02:09:29.094 --> 02:09:30.829
I THINK -- IT CAN BE GENERAL
02:09:30.896 --> 02:09:32.531
FUND I THINK MOST COMMONLY IS
02:09:32.598 --> 02:09:34.266
GENERAL FUND BUT DEPENDING ON
02:09:34.333 --> 02:09:36.034
I'M AN ACCOUNTANT SO I'M USED TO
02:09:36.101 --> 02:09:37.202
A CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
02:09:37.269 --> 02:09:41.607
SO WHAT ACCOUNT IS IT COMING OUT
02:09:41.673 --> 02:09:43.442
OF THIS COME OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY.
02:09:43.509 --> 02:09:44.476
ADMINISTRATIVE ACCOUNT IS A THE
02:09:44.543 --> 02:09:45.811
BILL CAME OUT OF THERE.
02:09:45.878 --> 02:09:46.745
NOW IT WOULD -- IT WOULD COME
02:09:46.812 --> 02:09:48.380
JUST OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND POT
02:09:48.447 --> 02:09:49.348
THAT WE HAVE FOR THE STATE IS
02:09:49.414 --> 02:09:50.816
THAT WHATEVER IS IN THE RESERVES
02:09:50.883 --> 02:09:51.683
IN THE GENERAL FUND.
02:09:51.750 --> 02:09:53.485
IS WHAT COMES OUT OF ITS NOT
02:09:53.552 --> 02:09:54.753
BUDGET OTHER.
02:09:54.820 --> 02:09:55.988
YEAH IT'S NOT REALLY BUDGETED
02:09:56.054 --> 02:09:58.257
FOR LIKE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS OR
02:09:58.323 --> 02:10:00.392
SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OR ANYTHING
02:10:00.459 --> 02:10:02.194
IT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE
02:10:02.261 --> 02:10:03.061
LEARNED FROM FROM THIS HOW IT
02:10:03.128 --> 02:10:04.663
DOES THIS HAPPEN OFTEN WHERE WE
02:10:04.730 --> 02:10:06.265
DO A BILL AND IT GOES ALL THE
02:10:06.331 --> 02:10:07.566
WAY THROUGH AND GETS BEAT UP AT
02:10:07.633 --> 02:10:09.668
THE STATE.
02:10:09.735 --> 02:10:10.802
U. S. SUPREME COURT IN THIS CASE.
02:10:10.869 --> 02:10:11.370
AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO SPEND
02:10:11.436 --> 02:10:13.071
THREE MILLION.
02:10:13.138 --> 02:10:14.606
FOR IT WOULD HOW DO WE HOW DO WE
02:10:14.673 --> 02:10:16.308
LEARN FROM THAT BECAUSE AT THAT
02:10:16.375 --> 02:10:18.177
COULD GET EXPENSIVE -- WE DO
02:10:18.243 --> 02:10:19.611
THIS ALL THE TIME RIGHT.
02:10:19.678 --> 02:10:21.146
YEAH THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION I
02:10:21.213 --> 02:10:23.515
THINK -- THE IDEA THAT HE MIGHT
02:10:23.582 --> 02:10:24.349
BE BETTER BECAUSE THEY DO ARE
02:10:24.416 --> 02:10:25.717
THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DO
02:10:25.784 --> 02:10:27.152
REPRESENT THE STATE BUT I WILL
02:10:27.219 --> 02:10:28.954
SAY THAT CLEANS WHEELS OFF -- TO
02:10:29.021 --> 02:10:29.988
HAPPEN PRETTY OFTEN I MEAN IT IS
02:10:30.055 --> 02:10:31.657
TWICE A YEAR WHERE WE HAVE
02:10:31.723 --> 02:10:33.392
CLAIMS AGAINST THE STATE -- THAT
02:10:33.458 --> 02:10:34.493
ARE APPROPRIATE IN THE CLAIMS
02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:36.161
BILL USUALLY ONE SPRING ONE IN
02:10:36.228 --> 02:10:38.130
THE FALL -- ANYTHING THERE'S
02:10:38.197 --> 02:10:41.166
USUALLY A NUMBER OF SETTLEMENTS
02:10:41.233 --> 02:10:43.302
BUT DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE.
02:10:43.368 --> 02:10:43.869
YEAH I MEAN JUST ADDED THAT
02:10:43.936 --> 02:10:44.503
THERE ARE VARIOUS CLAIMS THAT
02:10:44.570 --> 02:10:45.237
COME THROUGH THE THE PROCESS
02:10:45.304 --> 02:10:46.672
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR -- ON ON
02:10:46.738 --> 02:10:47.873
VARIOUS MATTERS SOMETIMES IT'S
02:10:47.940 --> 02:10:49.841
THAT LEGISLATION -- SOMETIMES
02:10:49.908 --> 02:10:51.543
IT'S A LOSS -- DUE TO YOU
02:10:51.610 --> 02:10:52.477
NATURAL DISASTER AND THINGS LIKE
02:10:52.544 --> 02:10:53.845
THAT SO IT VARIES QUITE A BIT I
02:10:53.912 --> 02:10:55.214
I THINK IT'S BEEN QUITE AWHILE
02:10:55.280 --> 02:10:56.415
SINCE WE'VE SEEN ONE LIKE THIS.
02:10:56.481 --> 02:11:01.186
LIKE THIS -- BUT WE WILL KEEPTRACK OF IT AND CAN YOU SHARE
02:11:01.253 --> 02:11:03.088
WITH YOUR STAFF IN THE FUTURE --
02:11:03.155 --> 02:11:05.290
BUT HI I JUST.
02:11:05.357 --> 02:11:06.892
IT'S ALWAYS THAT ERRORS THE GULF
02:11:06.959 --> 02:11:08.160
A MAN THIS IS GOING TO BE
02:11:08.227 --> 02:11:09.895
INTRANSIGENT BUT ABOUT FORTY
02:11:09.962 --> 02:11:11.563
MAYBE THEY'LL MAYBE IT WAS
02:11:11.630 --> 02:11:12.965
LITTLE -- WHAT WE NEED TO COOK A
02:11:13.031 --> 02:11:13.832
LITTLE MORE OR WHATEVER YOU KNOW
02:11:13.899 --> 02:11:15.033
YEAH HERE AS IT MOVES THROUGH
02:11:15.100 --> 02:11:16.134
THE PROCESS?
02:11:16.201 --> 02:11:17.469
AND THEN HERE IS A LIVE YOU KNOW
02:11:17.536 --> 02:11:22.474
TO TO TRY TO EXPERIMENT IT GETS
02:11:22.541 --> 02:11:24.676
PRETTY EXPENSIVE AND TIME I JUST
02:11:24.743 --> 02:11:26.111
WANTED.
02:11:26.178 --> 02:11:26.578
TO FIGURE OUT.
02:11:26.645 --> 02:11:27.212
YOU KNOW HOW TO HOW TO GET BACK
02:11:27.279 --> 02:11:27.980
TO US [inaudible]
02:11:28.046 --> 02:11:29.147
AS LEGISLATORS [inaudible]
02:11:29.214 --> 02:11:30.249
OKAY.
02:11:30.315 --> 02:11:33.285
WE TRIED THIS AND AND WE LOST
02:11:33.352 --> 02:11:33.518
RIGHT.
02:11:33.585 --> 02:11:35.087
SO IS IT THE GOVERNOR THAT'S
02:11:35.153 --> 02:11:36.421
LIKE THE BACKSTOP WHICH AT THAT
02:11:36.488 --> 02:11:37.856
RELY ON THE GOVERNOR'S VETO FOR
02:11:37.923 --> 02:11:39.324
BILLS LIKE THIS SO THEY DO LIKE
02:11:39.391 --> 02:11:40.859
A LEGAL ANALYSIS WHEN THERE'S
02:11:40.926 --> 02:11:41.960
THERE'S THE PROCESS AT ALL THE
02:11:42.027 --> 02:11:43.962
BILLS GO THROUGH -- AND THE
02:11:44.029 --> 02:11:45.597
VARIOUS COMMITTEE PROCESS -- BUT
02:11:45.664 --> 02:11:46.565
THE CLAIMS BILL I THINK IS A
02:11:46.632 --> 02:11:48.433
POLICY WHERE YOU WOULD SEE IT ON
02:11:48.500 --> 02:11:49.901
AN ANNUAL BASIS -- AND AND
02:11:49.968 --> 02:11:50.569
SOMEBODY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
02:11:50.636 --> 02:11:52.271
CLAIMS BILL -- AND DOING THE
02:11:52.337 --> 02:11:54.039
ANALYSIS COULD TRACK HOW MANY OF
02:11:54.106 --> 02:11:55.173
THESE CASES THERE ARE FROM YEAR
02:11:55.240 --> 02:11:59.111
TO YEAR SO THAT'S THE TYPICAL
02:11:59.177 --> 02:12:01.046
PROCESS MOST OF THESE GO THROUGH.
02:12:01.113 --> 02:12:01.913
I I WILL MOVE THE ITEM MANAGER
02:12:01.980 --> 02:12:02.414
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
02:12:02.481 --> 02:12:02.714
[inaudible]
02:12:02.781 --> 02:12:03.882
TRY.
02:12:03.949 --> 02:12:05.183
TO PEEL THE ONION A LITTLE BIT
02:12:05.250 --> 02:12:07.886
CERTAINLY.
02:12:07.953 --> 02:12:09.721
I'VE IRONICALLY WE EN
02:12:09.788 --> 02:12:10.022
[inaudible]
02:12:10.088 --> 02:12:12.024
WHAT WE'VE?
02:12:12.090 --> 02:12:13.692
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE
02:12:13.759 --> 02:12:17.396
BEEN DEALING WITH ARE ITEMS THAT.
02:12:17.462 --> 02:12:18.830
WERE COMPELLED TO HAVE TO MAKE
02:12:18.897 --> 02:12:20.065
THE EXPENDITURE DUE TO A COURT
02:12:20.132 --> 02:12:21.900
ACTION BUT IT'S NOT SO MUCH FROM
02:12:21.967 --> 02:12:22.701
A BILL.
02:12:22.768 --> 02:12:24.403
THAT WAS BECAUSE TO BE
02:12:24.469 --> 02:12:27.773
pINTERVENING WHERE THEY FELT THAT
02:12:27.839 --> 02:12:29.074
WE DID NOT ACT.
02:12:29.141 --> 02:12:30.375
YET APPROPRIATELY SO WHEN WE
02:12:30.442 --> 02:12:33.078
LOOK AT WHEN THE RECEIVER IS
02:12:33.145 --> 02:12:34.846
HERE.
02:12:34.913 --> 02:12:36.181
ALL OF THE INCREASED COST.
02:12:36.248 --> 02:12:39.051
NOT ALL BUT MOST FROM FROM.
02:12:39.117 --> 02:12:40.852
AT THAT HE BRINGS TO US WHICH
02:12:40.919 --> 02:12:42.020
HAVE BEEN QUITE SIGNIFICAN LAST
02:12:42.087 --> 02:12:43.088
FEW YEARS [inaudible]
02:12:43.155 --> 02:12:44.790
CORD ACTION.
02:12:44.856 --> 02:12:46.491
NOW WE JUST GOT ONE AGAIN --
02:12:46.558 --> 02:12:49.995
WITH -- GETTING A SETTLEMENT FOR
02:12:50.062 --> 02:12:51.630
MORTGAGE.
02:12:51.697 --> 02:12:54.599
FINE SO I JUST GOT.
02:12:54.666 --> 02:12:54.900
YEAH.
02:12:54.966 --> 02:12:56.234
JUST DECIDED SO THERE'S PROBABLY
02:12:56.301 --> 02:12:59.604
MORE LAWYER FEES THAT WE HAVE TO
02:12:59.671 --> 02:13:00.972
PAY FOR IT.
02:13:01.039 --> 02:13:02.541
AND SOME OF THOSE -- SETTLEMENTS
02:13:02.607 --> 02:13:04.242
ARE REIMBURSING -- VARIOUS
02:13:04.309 --> 02:13:05.811
LAWYERS SO THERE'S NOT AN ASK
02:13:05.877 --> 02:13:07.212
FOR MORE MONEY BUT THERE'S A
02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:07.913
SETTLEMENT PROCESS THAT'S
02:13:07.979 --> 02:13:10.048
REIMBURSING -- THE COST OF THOSE
02:13:10.115 --> 02:13:13.352
ATTORNEYS.
02:13:13.418 --> 02:13:14.886
RESTAURANT THANK YOU.
02:13:14.953 --> 02:13:18.190
WE'VE GOT A MOTION -- IN ITS THE
02:13:18.256 --> 02:13:21.660
TO APPROVE AS PROPOSED AND WILL
02:13:21.727 --> 02:13:23.729
DO A ROLL CALL.
02:13:23.795 --> 02:13:26.898
CENTER SKINNER HI CENTER MORE
02:13:26.965 --> 02:13:28.867
LAKAI SENATOR BELL.
02:13:28.934 --> 02:13:31.603
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO NOW WE
02:13:31.670 --> 02:13:32.704
WILL AND THAT BY.
02:13:32.771 --> 02:13:34.439
THE WILL TO THAT'S THE END OF
02:13:34.506 --> 02:13:38.243
OUR DOJ ISSUES -- PUBLIC COMMENT
02:13:38.310 --> 02:13:41.513
ON THAT ITEM.
02:13:41.580 --> 02:13:43.548
ALRIGHT WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR
02:13:43.615 --> 02:13:44.683
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND
02:13:44.750 --> 02:13:45.917
REHABILITATION.
02:13:45.984 --> 02:13:49.421
IT'S ITEM.
02:13:49.488 --> 02:13:51.823
FIVE TWO TWO FIVE ISSUE TWENTY
02:13:51.890 --> 02:13:56.428
SEVEN AND IT'S IN -- INFIRM IT'S
02:13:56.495 --> 02:13:57.062
MOSTLY INFORMATION ALTHOUGH IT
02:13:57.129 --> 02:13:59.998
DOES SUGGEST OUR EXPENDITURES.
02:14:00.065 --> 02:14:01.867
BASED ON THE POPULATION
02:14:01.933 --> 02:14:03.702
ADJUSTMENT SO.
02:14:03.769 --> 02:14:06.705
MISTER SWANSON MAISIE PERCY ALL
02:14:06.772 --> 02:14:11.243
RIGHT.
02:14:11.309 --> 02:14:12.644
AGAIN AMERICA SWANSON W.
02:14:12.711 --> 02:14:14.513
DIRECTOR CCAR'S OFFICE OF FISCAL
02:14:14.579 --> 02:14:16.915
SERVICES -- CDC ARE UPDATES OUR
02:14:16.982 --> 02:14:18.517
POPULATION ESTIMATES TWICE PER
02:14:18.583 --> 02:14:19.418
YEAR.
02:14:19.484 --> 02:14:22.988
ON JANUARY TEN ENEMY REVISION --
02:14:23.054 --> 02:14:24.389
IT'S ALL INCLUDED WE HAVE IT'S A
02:14:24.456 --> 02:14:25.357
WE DO A BUNCH OF POPULATION
02:14:25.424 --> 02:14:27.259
JUDGMENTS ARE ALL IN THIS SORT
02:14:27.325 --> 02:14:28.894
OF BINDER WE DISTRIBUTE.
02:14:28.960 --> 02:14:30.796
TO LA -- WITH ALLEGE STAFF AND
02:14:30.862 --> 02:14:33.198
STAKEHOLDERS -- BUT THERE ARE
02:14:33.265 --> 02:14:34.533
THREE POPULATION BASE PROPOSALS
02:14:34.599 --> 02:14:37.636
THAT YOU'VE NOTED IN YOUR AGENDA.
02:14:37.702 --> 02:14:40.172
BUT DEPARTMENTS REQUESTED HE HAS
02:14:40.238 --> 02:14:41.640
COMPARED TO THE JANUARY BUDGET.
02:14:41.706 --> 02:14:43.842
AROUND A SEVENTY SEVENTEEN POINT
02:14:43.909 --> 02:14:45.510
FOUR MILLION DOLLAR REDUCTION
02:14:45.577 --> 02:14:46.611
ARNOLD INSTITUTIONS.
02:14:46.678 --> 02:14:47.813
IN EIGHT POINT FOUR MILLION
02:14:47.879 --> 02:14:49.247
DOLLAR INCREASED OUR CUSTODY TO
02:14:49.314 --> 02:14:51.049
COMMUNITY TRANSITIONAL REENTRY
02:14:51.116 --> 02:14:52.083
PROGRAMS.
02:14:52.150 --> 02:14:53.385
AND A SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION
02:14:53.452 --> 02:14:55.554
DOLLAR INCREASE FOR JUVENILE
02:14:55.620 --> 02:14:57.422
FACILITIES -- HI BEFORE WE I
02:14:57.489 --> 02:14:58.757
WANT TO GET -- TO JUST
02:14:58.824 --> 02:15:00.859
ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE LA --
02:15:00.926 --> 02:15:02.294
BECAUSE THE FIGURES THAT I'VE.
02:15:02.360 --> 02:15:03.728
SAID TO YOU RIGHT NOW ARE GOING
02:15:03.795 --> 02:15:05.664
TO BE ADJUSTED BASED ON SOME OF
02:15:05.730 --> 02:15:08.066
THE FINDINGS OF THE LA ALWAYS
02:15:08.133 --> 02:15:10.001
MADE AND WE AGREE WITH -- WE'RE
02:15:10.068 --> 02:15:11.403
IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH
02:15:11.470 --> 02:15:16.541
THAT -- ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW BUT I
02:15:16.608 --> 02:15:19.177
DO WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU --
02:15:19.244 --> 02:15:20.345
CHRIS CHAMBERS TO SEE SOCIAL
02:15:20.412 --> 02:15:21.012
DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF
02:15:21.079 --> 02:15:21.646
RESEARCH AND HE'S GOING TO TALK
02:15:21.713 --> 02:15:22.247
TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GENERAL
02:15:22.314 --> 02:15:24.149
POPULATION TRENDS BEFORE WE TALK
02:15:24.216 --> 02:15:27.953
ABOUT THAT -- TO BEFORE WE HEAR
02:15:28.019 --> 02:15:29.421
FROM YOU.
02:15:29.488 --> 02:15:30.055
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE INDICATING
02:15:30.121 --> 02:15:31.723
NOW OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO
02:15:31.790 --> 02:15:33.925
HOLD THIS ITM OPEN AND I THINK
02:15:33.992 --> 02:15:36.294
WHAT YOU ARE INDICATING IS THATYOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT
02:15:36.361 --> 02:15:39.231
BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO ALREADY.
02:15:39.297 --> 02:15:41.266
A CHEST THESE NUMBERS BASED ON
02:15:41.333 --> 02:15:43.668
SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE LA --
02:15:43.735 --> 02:15:45.504
RACED BAGS THAT'S RIGHT ALRIGHT
02:15:45.570 --> 02:15:48.540
SO WE WILL HEAR FROM LA -- JUST
02:15:48.607 --> 02:15:51.042
SO ALL MY COLLEAGUES CAN.
02:15:51.109 --> 02:15:52.711
IT'S IN THE ANALYSIS BUT JUST IN
02:15:52.777 --> 02:15:55.947
CASE -- SO THAT WAY HOPEFULLY
02:15:56.014 --> 02:15:58.016
WHEN THE ITEM COMES BACK GIVEN
02:15:58.083 --> 02:16:01.686
OR TRUNCATED TIME PERIOD.
02:16:01.753 --> 02:16:03.655
WE'D BE ABLE TO ACT.
02:16:03.722 --> 02:16:04.556
I'M PRETTY.
02:16:04.623 --> 02:16:06.625
QUICKLY BUT WILL.
02:16:06.691 --> 02:16:08.293
PROCEED WITH THIS DISCUSSION AND
02:16:08.360 --> 02:16:10.028
LEARN ABOUT WHAT WAYS THEME
02:16:10.095 --> 02:16:11.329
MIGHT BE ADJUSTED.
02:16:11.396 --> 02:16:12.063
GO AHEAD.
02:16:12.130 --> 02:16:14.499
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
02:16:14.566 --> 02:16:15.133
SENATORS MEMBERS OF THE
02:16:15.200 --> 02:16:17.235
COMMITTEE.
02:16:17.302 --> 02:16:19.704
PRODUCES POPULATION PROJECTIONS.
02:16:19.771 --> 02:16:22.140
OVER THE YEARS THE DEPARTMENT
02:16:22.207 --> 02:16:22.607
HAS FOUND THAT FUTURE
02:16:22.674 --> 02:16:23.408
INSTITUTION.
02:16:23.475 --> 02:16:25.343
FUTURE INSTITUTION POPULATION A
02:16:25.410 --> 02:16:26.645
SHAKE MOSTLY BY COURT
02:16:26.711 --> 02:16:27.846
COMMITMENTS.
02:16:27.913 --> 02:16:30.248
HOW MANY THE SENTENCE TYPE
02:16:30.315 --> 02:16:31.750
WHETHER DIED DETERMINAR LIFE
02:16:31.816 --> 02:16:33.785
SENTENCE?
02:16:33.852 --> 02:16:34.319
UNLIKE THE STAY.
02:16:34.386 --> 02:16:35.654
ADDITIONALLY OTHER FACTORS
02:16:35.720 --> 02:16:37.088
INCLUDING STATUTORY REVISIONS
02:16:37.155 --> 02:16:38.590
BALLOT INITIATIVES.
02:16:38.657 --> 02:16:41.660
IN POLICY CHANGES HAVE IMPACT.
02:16:41.726 --> 02:16:42.894
TV STARS MOST CURRENT
02:16:42.961 --> 02:16:44.262
PROJECTIONS ARE PUBLISHED.
02:16:44.329 --> 02:16:46.498
IN THE SPRING TWENTY NINETEEN
02:16:46.565 --> 02:16:47.899
POPULATION PROJECTIONS REPORT.
02:16:47.966 --> 02:16:49.334
THIS REPORT WAS RELEASED I
02:16:49.401 --> 02:16:51.536
BELIEVE ABOUT A WEEK AGO.
02:16:51.603 --> 02:16:54.005
IN THIS REPORT -- WE INCLUDE TWO
02:16:54.072 --> 02:16:55.473
SETS O ADULT PROJECTION
02:16:55.540 --> 02:16:58.276
DISPLAYS OR MORE TRADITIONAL IN
02:16:58.343 --> 02:17:00.912
MEN ARE AN ADDITIONAL DISPLAY --
02:17:00.979 --> 02:17:02.681
THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED BY BY
02:17:02.747 --> 02:17:04.549
DEMAND THAT SHOW SEVERAL POLICY
02:17:04.616 --> 02:17:06.518
CHANGES RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED BY
02:17:06.585 --> 02:17:07.385
THE DEPARTMENT.
02:17:07.452 --> 02:17:09.654
THOSE POLICY CHANGES INCLUDE.
02:17:09.721 --> 02:17:11.089
SUPPLEMENTAL REFORMS TO CREDIT
02:17:11.156 --> 02:17:13.391
EARNINGS INCLUDING -- INCREASES
02:17:13.458 --> 02:17:15.260
TO REHABILITATE OF ACHIEVEMENT
02:17:15.327 --> 02:17:17.729
IN EDUCATIONAL MERITS CREDITS.
02:17:17.796 --> 02:17:20.432
IN CHANGE TO NINE PER SIXTY DAY
02:17:20.498 --> 02:17:21.633
RELEASE RESTRICTION.
02:17:21.700 --> 02:17:23.034
PEARL DETERMINATION PROCESS FOR
02:17:23.101 --> 02:17:24.636
INDETERMINATE LEE SENTENCED
02:17:24.703 --> 02:17:26.338
NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS.
02:17:26.404 --> 02:17:28.540
AS WELL AS PENAL CODE SECTION
02:17:28.607 --> 02:17:29.441
ELEVEN SEVENTY D. RECALL IN
02:17:29.507 --> 02:17:31.676
RECENT AND TING CHANGES.
02:17:31.743 --> 02:17:32.677
OVERALL.
02:17:32.744 --> 02:17:34.846
THESE CHANGES ARE EXPECTED TO
02:17:34.913 --> 02:17:36.815
DECREASE INSTITUTION POPULATION
02:17:36.881 --> 02:17:38.216
AND INCREASE THE PAROLE
02:17:38.283 --> 02:17:40.485
POPULATION.
02:17:40.552 --> 02:17:41.119
OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW
02:17:41.186 --> 02:17:42.153
YEARS.
02:17:42.220 --> 02:17:44.456
LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE NOW THE
02:17:44.522 --> 02:17:45.890
DAHLE INSTITUTION POPULATION IS
02:17:45.957 --> 02:17:47.592
PROJECTED TO DECREASE OVER THE
02:17:47.659 --> 02:17:49.160
NEXT TWO YEARS.
02:17:49.227 --> 02:17:51.229
WE ARE PROJECTING CLOSING THIS
02:17:51.296 --> 02:17:52.731
FISCAL YEAR OUT WITH A AN ADULT
02:17:52.797 --> 02:17:57.202
POPULATION OF A HUNDRED TWENTY
02:17:57.268 --> 02:17:57.969
SIX SIX NINETY GIVEN WHERE WERE
02:17:58.036 --> 02:17:59.971
AT I THINK WERE JUST A FEW
02:18:00.038 --> 02:18:01.606
HUNDRED OFFICE NUMBER RIGHT NOW
02:18:01.673 --> 02:18:03.908
SO WE ARE ON TRACK WITH THIS.
02:18:03.975 --> 02:18:05.210
WE PROJECT OVER THE COURSE OF
02:18:05.277 --> 02:18:06.878
THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS OUR
02:18:06.945 --> 02:18:08.747
POPULATION TO DECREASE ROUGHLY
02:18:08.813 --> 02:18:11.883
BY ABOUT A TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED
02:18:11.950 --> 02:18:14.085
ABOUT 2% OVERALL.
02:18:14.152 --> 02:18:15.687
LOOKING A PAROLE POPULATION PRO
02:18:15.754 --> 02:18:17.622
POPULATION IS EXPECTED TO CLOSE
02:18:17.689 --> 02:18:20.725
THIS FISCAL YEAR OUT AT FORTY
02:18:20.792 --> 02:18:21.359
NINE FOUR OH THREE IN INCREASE
02:18:21.426 --> 02:18:22.994
OVERALL DURING THE SPAN OF THE
02:18:23.061 --> 02:18:24.863
NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS BY ABOUT
02:18:24.929 --> 02:18:27.532
NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY PAROLEES.
02:18:27.599 --> 02:18:29.734
OR ONE POINT.
02:18:29.801 --> 02:18:30.568
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY MY BRIEF
02:18:30.635 --> 02:18:34.806
SUMMARY.
02:18:34.873 --> 02:18:36.241
IT WILL BE FOR WE HEAR FROM LA --
02:18:36.307 --> 02:18:38.243
I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON
02:18:38.309 --> 02:18:40.412
THE COMMUNITY -- THE CUSTODY TO
02:18:40.478 --> 02:18:41.946
COMMUNITY TRANSITIONAL REENTRY
02:18:42.013 --> 02:18:43.481
WHICH I DON'T THINK IS THE
02:18:43.548 --> 02:18:45.283
SUBJECT OF MOST OF YOUR COMMENTS
02:18:45.350 --> 02:18:47.285
AROUND JUSTICE POPULATION
02:18:47.352 --> 02:18:49.721
CALCULATION ARE YOU DID HAVE
02:18:49.788 --> 02:18:52.857
SOMEONE THAT -- PART ONE TO
02:18:52.924 --> 02:18:53.725
PROCEED IN AN OFFICE MY
02:18:53.792 --> 02:18:54.859
QUESTIONS DO YOU LIKE ME AT
02:18:54.926 --> 02:18:55.527
CAITLYN O'NEILL WITH THE LA --
02:18:55.593 --> 02:18:56.695
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE OUR
02:18:56.761 --> 02:19:00.031
COMMENTS ON THE WHOLE THING OKAY --
02:19:00.098 --> 02:19:01.933
SO REGARDING THE A DAHLE INMATE
02:19:02.000 --> 02:19:04.069
POPULATION AT AS WAS INDICATED
02:19:04.135 --> 02:19:05.870
THE DEPARTMENT PRODUCED TWO SETS
02:19:05.937 --> 02:19:07.639
OF PROJECTIONS FOR THE ADULT AND
02:19:07.706 --> 02:19:09.908
MADE POPULATION THIS MAY ONE IS.
02:19:09.974 --> 02:19:11.710
A DOWNWARD ADJUSTMENT JUST BASED
02:19:11.776 --> 02:19:13.912
ON HAVING MORE ACTUAL DATA SINCE
02:19:13.978 --> 02:19:15.914
THAT -- JANUARY PROJECTIONS WERE
02:19:15.980 --> 02:19:17.615
RELEASED THE SECOND ADDRESS
02:19:17.682 --> 02:19:20.185
FURTHER DOWNWARD BASED ON THE
02:19:20.251 --> 02:19:22.220
ANTICIPATED EFFECT OF THE POLICY
02:19:22.287 --> 02:19:24.355
CHANGES THAT WERE LISTED -- THE
02:19:24.422 --> 02:19:26.424
BUDGET ADJUSTMENT WAS BASED AS
02:19:26.491 --> 02:19:27.859
AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND --
02:19:27.926 --> 02:19:30.729
ACCIDENTALLY OFF OF THE FIRST
02:19:30.795 --> 02:19:32.997
SET OF PROJECTION SET SO -- THE
02:19:33.064 --> 02:19:34.899
DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO UPDATE
02:19:34.966 --> 02:19:36.367
THAT BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO
02:19:36.434 --> 02:19:39.170
INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL DECLINE
02:19:39.237 --> 02:19:40.438
THAT'S PROJECTED AS A AS A
02:19:40.505 --> 02:19:42.040
RESULT OF THIS THE POLICY
02:19:42.107 --> 02:19:43.174
CHANGES.
02:19:43.241 --> 02:19:44.876
AND SO WE WILL CERTAINLY REVIEW
02:19:44.943 --> 02:19:46.277
THAT BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AND
02:19:46.344 --> 02:19:51.449
COMMUNICATE ANY CONCERNS WE
02:19:51.516 --> 02:19:53.651
IDENTIFY TO THE COMMITTEE.
02:19:53.718 --> 02:19:54.686
EN WHAT YOU WHAT YOU'RE
02:19:54.753 --> 02:19:55.620
INDICATING IS THAT IN OTHER
02:19:55.687 --> 02:19:57.789
WORDS THEY I AM.
02:19:57.856 --> 02:19:58.623
WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A
02:19:58.690 --> 02:20:01.292
POPULATION ADJUSTMENT BASED ON?
02:20:01.359 --> 02:20:02.494
IT FIGURES.
02:20:02.560 --> 02:20:05.096
AND IT DOES NOT INCORPORATE THE
02:20:05.163 --> 02:20:06.898
THE COURT ACTION IN A COUPLE OF
02:20:06.965 --> 02:20:08.233
OTHER ACTIONS THAT WOULD.
02:20:08.299 --> 02:20:10.735
UNDER PROP FIFTY SEVEN AND A FEW
02:20:10.802 --> 02:20:12.871
OTHER THINGS POTENTIALLY HAVE
02:20:12.937 --> 02:20:15.306
FOLKS WITH EARNING CREDITS BE
02:20:15.373 --> 02:20:17.776
ABLE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE.
02:20:17.842 --> 02:20:19.878
POTENTIALLY SOONER WHICH MAY
02:20:19.944 --> 02:20:21.679
FURTHER REDUCE THE POPULATION
02:20:21.746 --> 02:20:23.281
THAT CRACKED OKAY.
02:20:23.348 --> 02:20:24.315
AND SO WE'RE GONNA.
02:20:24.382 --> 02:20:26.317
IN ONE ITEM COMES BACK WE'LL GET
02:20:26.384 --> 02:20:28.086
ADJUSTED NUMBERS.
02:20:28.153 --> 02:20:30.288
THAT'S CORRECT OKAY AND ONE
02:20:30.355 --> 02:20:32.190
OTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT IS
02:20:32.257 --> 02:20:33.792
NOTED IN YOUR AGENDA ON THIS
02:20:33.858 --> 02:20:35.560
NOTE ON THIS TOPIC IS -- WE
02:20:35.627 --> 02:20:36.761
RECOMMEND THAT THE LEGISLATURE
02:20:36.828 --> 02:20:38.530
PASSED STATUTE REQUIRING THE
02:20:38.596 --> 02:20:40.231
DEPARTMENT TO NOTIFY THE
02:20:40.298 --> 02:20:41.733
LEGISLATURE AND PROVIDE.
02:20:41.800 --> 02:20:44.702
A POPULATION IMPACT ESTIMATES
02:20:44.769 --> 02:20:46.805
WHEN IT MAKES FURTHER CHANGES TO
02:20:46.871 --> 02:20:48.273
ITS CREDIT EARNING REGULATIONS
02:20:48.339 --> 02:20:50.742
AS CHANGES TO CREDIT EARNING CAN
02:20:50.809 --> 02:20:52.210
HAVE AS WE SAW IN THIS CASE
02:20:52.277 --> 02:20:53.444
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE
02:20:53.511 --> 02:20:54.746
POPULATION WHICH IS.
02:20:54.813 --> 02:20:56.347
IMPORTANT FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO
02:20:56.414 --> 02:20:57.982
HAVE AS IT CONSIDERS CCAR'S
02:20:58.049 --> 02:21:01.653
RESOURCE NEEDS AND OTHER RELATED --
02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:03.254
POLICY ISSUES [inaudible]
02:21:03.321 --> 02:21:04.789
OKAY.
02:21:04.856 --> 02:21:06.891
AND THEN YOU HAD AS A THING ON A
02:21:06.958 --> 02:21:08.059
CUSTODY TO COMMUNITY
02:21:08.126 --> 02:21:10.962
TRANSITIONAL REENTRY YES.
02:21:11.029 --> 02:21:12.764
SO WE WE BELIEVE THAT THIS
02:21:12.831 --> 02:21:14.732
PROGRAM SHOULD BE EVALUATED FOR
02:21:14.799 --> 02:21:16.401
COST EFFECTIVENESS BEFORE IT IS
02:21:16.467 --> 02:21:17.802
EXPANDED.
02:21:17.869 --> 02:21:19.370
AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO
02:21:19.437 --> 02:21:21.706
YOUR P. ARE THE EXPANSION OF C.
02:21:21.773 --> 02:21:23.541
C. T. R. P. ACCORDING TO THE
02:21:23.608 --> 02:21:25.176
COST ESTIMATES AND THE PROPOSAL
02:21:25.243 --> 02:21:26.911
WOULD BE FIVE TIMES MORE
02:21:26.978 --> 02:21:29.747
EXPENSIVE DâN -- ON A ON A PER
02:21:29.814 --> 02:21:31.683
INMATE BASIS DAN WHERE THESE
02:21:31.749 --> 02:21:34.219
WOMEN WOULD BE HOUSED UNDER THE
02:21:34.285 --> 02:21:36.287
STATUS QUO.
02:21:36.354 --> 02:21:36.988
THIS MEANS THAT CC TO YOUR P.
02:21:37.055 --> 02:21:38.857
WOULD NEED TO BE ESSENTIALLY
02:21:38.923 --> 02:21:40.358
MORE THAN FIVE TIMES AS
02:21:40.425 --> 02:21:42.393
EFFECTIVE IN REDUCING RECIDIVIST
02:21:42.460 --> 02:21:43.728
RECIDIVISM RECRUITING OTHER
02:21:43.795 --> 02:21:45.563
BENEFITS.
02:21:45.630 --> 02:21:46.931
AS A STANDARD PRISON ENVIRONMENT.
02:21:46.998 --> 02:21:49.667
HOWEVER THERE SIMPLY ISN'T -- WE
02:21:49.734 --> 02:21:50.802
A SIMPLY DON'T KNOW HOW
02:21:50.869 --> 02:21:52.904
EFFECTIVE THE CC TEAR P. PROGRAM
02:21:52.971 --> 02:21:54.973
IS GIVEN THAT HASN'T BEEN
02:21:55.039 --> 02:21:55.573
EVALUATED.
02:21:55.640 --> 02:21:58.643
THE DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED SOME
02:21:58.710 --> 02:22:00.712
DATA INDICATING THAT WOMEN WHO
02:22:00.778 --> 02:22:02.947
PARTICIPATE IN CC TEAR P. ARE
02:22:03.014 --> 02:22:04.382
LESS LIKELY TO RESET OF EIGHT
02:22:04.449 --> 02:22:05.850
THAN WOMEN WHO DON'T PARTICIPATE
02:22:05.917 --> 02:22:08.519
IN CC TEAR HE HOWEVER THAT ISN'T
02:22:08.586 --> 02:22:10.088
REALLY AN APPLES TO APPLES
02:22:10.154 --> 02:22:12.257
COMPARISON -- BECAUSE IT'S NOT
02:22:12.323 --> 02:22:14.425
CLEAR WHETHER IT'S THE PROGRAM
02:22:14.492 --> 02:22:15.693
THAT'S RESULTING IN THEM BEING
02:22:15.760 --> 02:22:17.762
LESS LIKELY TO RESET OF EIGHT OR
02:22:17.829 --> 02:22:19.998
IF IT'S SUB SOMETHING TO DO WITH
02:22:20.064 --> 02:22:21.599
HOW THE WOMEN ARE SELECTED INTO
02:22:21.666 --> 02:22:22.901
THE PROGRAM IN OTHER WORDS THAT
02:22:22.967 --> 02:22:24.369
THE PROGRAM IS SORT OF NATURALLY
02:22:24.435 --> 02:22:26.604
SELECTING -- INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
02:22:26.671 --> 02:22:28.573
LESS LIKELY TO RESET DEBATE TO
02:22:28.640 --> 02:22:29.908
BEGIN WITH.
02:22:29.974 --> 02:22:31.409
AND THIS IS THE KIND OF THING
02:22:31.476 --> 02:22:32.577
THAT RESEARCHERS WOULD
02:22:32.644 --> 02:22:34.245
POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO TEASE OUT
02:22:34.312 --> 02:22:36.347
IN OTHER WORDS -- BY HAVING
02:22:36.414 --> 02:22:37.815
RESEARCHERS LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM
02:22:37.882 --> 02:22:39.517
THEY COULD POTENTIALLY COME UP
02:22:39.584 --> 02:22:41.552
WITH A CREDIBLE -- ESTIMATE
02:22:41.619 --> 02:22:43.187
ESSENTIALLY OF HOW EFFECTIVE THE
02:22:43.254 --> 02:22:44.822
PROGRAM IS.
02:22:44.889 --> 02:22:47.158
WHICH WOULD -- BE VERY VALUABLE
02:22:47.225 --> 02:22:48.192
FOR THE LEGISLATURE HAVE AS IT
02:22:48.259 --> 02:22:50.995
CONSIDERS POTENTIAL EXPANSIONS --
02:22:51.062 --> 02:22:52.897
SO WE DO RECOMMEND THAT WHETHER
02:22:52.964 --> 02:22:54.132
OR NOT YOU APPROVED THIS
02:22:54.198 --> 02:22:56.067
EXPANSION THAT YOU REQUIRE AN
02:22:56.134 --> 02:22:58.236
INDEPENDENT STUDY OF THE
02:22:58.303 --> 02:23:00.471
PROGRAM'S COST EFFECTIVENESS --
02:23:00.538 --> 02:23:02.807
BECAUSE HAVING THIS INFORMATION
02:23:02.874 --> 02:23:05.176
WOULD ALLOW THE LEGISLATURE --
02:23:05.243 --> 02:23:07.412
TO ASSESS WHETHER AND CONTINUING
02:23:07.478 --> 02:23:09.314
TO INVEST IN THIS PROGRAM -- IS
02:23:09.380 --> 02:23:10.982
ALLOWING IT TO ESSENTIALLY
02:23:11.049 --> 02:23:14.285
PREVENT -- MORE VICTIMS OR
02:23:14.352 --> 02:23:16.487
REGENERATE OTHER BENEFITS DâN
02:23:16.554 --> 02:23:19.023
CHOOSING TO INVESTORS RECESS
02:23:19.090 --> 02:23:22.026
RESOURCES ELSEWHERE [inaudible]
02:23:22.093 --> 02:23:23.995
OKAY.
02:23:24.062 --> 02:23:27.398
SO MY QUESTIONS.
02:23:27.465 --> 02:23:28.499
RIGHT NOW.
02:23:28.566 --> 02:23:31.636
THE I SEE COMMUNITY TRANSITION
02:23:31.703 --> 02:23:32.870
RAINTREE PROGRAM.
02:23:32.937 --> 02:23:36.240
HAS LOCATIONS IN SAN DIEGO SANTA
02:23:36.307 --> 02:23:37.842
FE SPRINGS SPEAKERS FILL
02:23:37.909 --> 02:23:39.210
STOCKTON IN SACRAMENTO.
02:23:39.277 --> 02:23:41.279
EN ROUTE WE HAVE IN OUR REPORT
02:23:41.346 --> 02:23:42.847
THE NUMBER OF BEDS.
02:23:42.914 --> 02:23:45.883
ARE THOSE FULL RIGHT NOW ARE
02:23:45.950 --> 02:23:47.752
THOSE FLOOR THE BEDS FULL -- LET
02:23:47.819 --> 02:23:49.854
ME CALL UP AMY MILLER WHOSE --
02:23:49.921 --> 02:23:52.657
ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF OUR
02:23:52.724 --> 02:23:54.859
DIVISION OF ADULT INSTITUTIONS.
02:23:54.926 --> 02:23:56.694
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AMY
02:23:56.761 --> 02:23:57.095
MILLER.
02:23:57.161 --> 02:23:59.964
AND THOSE BEDS ARE FULL SO WE
02:24:00.031 --> 02:24:00.898
HAVE.
02:24:00.965 --> 02:24:03.167
SO THERE'S A NATURAL -- TURNOVER
02:24:03.234 --> 02:24:04.469
SO AS A AND D. WERE FILLING
02:24:04.535 --> 02:24:06.104
BEHIND THEM WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE
02:24:06.170 --> 02:24:07.805
A WAIT LIST OF APPROXIMATELY A
02:24:07.872 --> 02:24:09.407
HUNDRED WOMEN WAITING TO GET
02:24:09.474 --> 02:24:11.075
INTO THOSE PROGRAMS THEY'RE ALL
02:24:11.142 --> 02:24:13.411
VOLUNTARY SO THE WOMEN ACTUALLY.
02:24:13.478 --> 02:24:14.812
A VOLUNTEER FOR THE PROGRAM AND
02:24:14.879 --> 02:24:16.147
THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE
02:24:16.214 --> 02:24:17.548
OPPORTUNITY TO SELECT WHICH
02:24:17.615 --> 02:24:19.517
FACILITY THEY'D LIKE TO GO -- TO
02:24:19.584 --> 02:24:20.718
SO SOME OF THEM CHOOSE TO BE
02:24:20.785 --> 02:24:21.786
CLOSER TO HOME CLOSER TO
02:24:21.853 --> 02:24:23.321
FAMILIES OTHERS LOOKING FOR A
02:24:23.388 --> 02:24:24.088
FRESH START.
02:24:24.155 --> 02:24:26.257
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT WAIT
02:24:26.324 --> 02:24:27.225
LIST WE HAVE WAIT LISTS FOR
02:24:27.291 --> 02:24:28.893
EVERY SINGLE FACILITY AND THEY
02:24:28.960 --> 02:24:30.795
ARE BEING KEPT FULL SO AS WOMEN
02:24:30.862 --> 02:24:32.130
EXIT.
02:24:32.196 --> 02:24:34.599
DATE THEN ARE ARE BEING PLACED
02:24:34.665 --> 02:24:37.001
ON WITHIN A WEEK OR SO WERE
02:24:37.068 --> 02:24:39.704
FILLING THOSE BETS BEHIND THEM.
02:24:39.771 --> 02:24:41.706
ARE THESE -- TRANSITIONAL
02:24:41.773 --> 02:24:43.107
FACILITIES.
02:24:43.174 --> 02:24:44.542
IT UP IN A WAY THAT.
02:24:44.609 --> 02:24:49.614
THE STATE COULD POTENTIALLY.
02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:51.315
CHARGE MEDI CAL [inaudible]
02:24:51.382 --> 02:24:53.317
I'M.
02:24:53.384 --> 02:24:56.654
IT RECOVER COSTS.
02:24:56.721 --> 02:24:58.556
FOR THESE FOLKS THAT WE MIGHT
02:24:58.623 --> 02:24:59.924
RECOVER IF THEY WERE IN.
02:24:59.991 --> 02:25:02.427
YOU KNOW THAT WE CANNOT RECOVER.
02:25:02.493 --> 02:25:04.462
IF WE HOLD THEM IN OUR STATE
02:25:04.529 --> 02:25:05.930
FACILITY OUR STATE PRISON
02:25:05.997 --> 02:25:07.765
FACILITY SO WE ACTUALLY HOPE TO
02:25:07.832 --> 02:25:09.067
THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE AND
02:25:09.133 --> 02:25:10.468
WHEN THOSE -- PROGRAMS WERE
02:25:10.535 --> 02:25:12.637
INITIALLY BROUGHT ONLINE IN TWO
02:25:12.703 --> 02:25:13.204
THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN AND AS
02:25:13.271 --> 02:25:15.306
WE'VE EXPANDED -- WE BELIEVE
02:25:15.373 --> 02:25:16.874
THAT THEY DID MEET THE CRITERIA
02:25:16.941 --> 02:25:18.609
HOWEVER WE HAD SOME EXTENSIVE
02:25:18.676 --> 02:25:20.344
MEETINGS OVER ABOUT EIGHTEEN
02:25:20.411 --> 02:25:21.846
MONTHS TO TWO YEARS WITH
02:25:21.913 --> 02:25:22.380
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
02:25:22.447 --> 02:25:23.047
SERVICES.
02:25:23.114 --> 02:25:24.482
AT WHICH TIME THEY ULTIMATELY
02:25:24.549 --> 02:25:26.117
DECIDED THAT ARE WOMEN DID NOT
02:25:26.184 --> 02:25:27.852
MEET THE CRITERIA FOR MEDI CAL
02:25:27.919 --> 02:25:29.587
ELIGIBILITY BECAUSE THEY WERE
02:25:29.654 --> 02:25:30.855
TECHNICALLY STILL INMATES.
02:25:30.922 --> 02:25:32.824
NOT RELEASED ON PAROLE AND THAT
02:25:32.890 --> 02:25:34.392
THEY COULD BE RETURNED INTO THE
02:25:34.459 --> 02:25:35.927
STATE PRISONS AT ANY TIME -- AS
02:25:35.993 --> 02:25:38.329
THE POLICY WORKS SO LIKE I SAID
02:25:38.396 --> 02:25:39.597
WE SPENT A COUPLE OF YEARS
02:25:39.664 --> 02:25:41.065
TRYING TO GET THOSE WOMEN
02:25:41.132 --> 02:25:43.434
APPROVED FOR MEDI CAL ULTIMATELY.
02:25:43.501 --> 02:25:44.836
THAT THAT WAS DISAPPROVED SO
02:25:44.902 --> 02:25:46.471
CURRENTLY WE WORK WITH OUR
02:25:46.537 --> 02:25:47.505
HEALTH CARE SERVICES VERY
02:25:47.572 --> 02:25:49.574
CLOSELY THEY'VE WE'VE WORKED
02:25:49.640 --> 02:25:51.843
WITH -- CLINICS IN THE AREA AND
02:25:51.909 --> 02:25:53.010
WE WORK THROUGH HEALTH NET TO
02:25:53.077 --> 02:25:56.781
GET THEM SERVICES SO THERE'S NO
02:25:56.848 --> 02:25:57.448
IMPACT ACCESS TO CARE
02:25:57.515 --> 02:25:57.748
[inaudible]
02:25:57.815 --> 02:26:00.918
IT'S SO WHEN WE FIRST APPROVED
02:26:00.985 --> 02:26:03.287
THIS IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT THE
02:26:03.354 --> 02:26:06.090
COST MIGHT BE LESS. TO THE STATE
02:26:06.157 --> 02:26:08.626
FOR THEIR FOR HOLDING THEM.
02:26:08.693 --> 02:26:10.728
OR FOR THEIR BEING IN THESE
02:26:10.795 --> 02:26:12.597
TRANSITIONAL FACILITIES VERSUS
02:26:12.663 --> 02:26:13.931
BEING HELD.
02:26:13.998 --> 02:26:16.868
IN OUR CORRECTIONS FACILITY
02:26:16.934 --> 02:26:17.668
THAT'S CORRECT THAT WAS THE
02:26:17.735 --> 02:26:18.703
ASSUMPTION AT THE TOP RIGHT NOW
02:26:18.769 --> 02:26:22.440
THE COST PER INMATE IS HIGHER.
02:26:22.507 --> 02:26:24.142
SO THE MEDICAL EXPENSES --
02:26:24.208 --> 02:26:26.177
OBVIOUSLY ARE BILLED SEPARATELY
02:26:26.244 --> 02:26:28.646
AND SO THOSE GO THROUGH THE
02:26:28.713 --> 02:26:29.914
HEALTH NET CONTRACT.
02:26:29.981 --> 02:26:31.682
SO ABSOLUTELY THEY'RE NOT BEING
02:26:31.749 --> 02:26:32.650
COVERED UNDER MEDICARE ALL THOSE
02:26:32.717 --> 02:26:34.352
ARE EXPENSES THAT THAT ARE BEING
02:26:34.418 --> 02:26:36.120
PAID FOR IT IS THE COST JUST TO
02:26:36.187 --> 02:26:37.355
HAVE THEM IN THE RE ENTRY
02:26:37.421 --> 02:26:39.991
FACILITY HIGHER PER PERSON.
02:26:40.057 --> 02:26:41.792
THAN IF THEY WERE IN THE ACT
02:26:41.859 --> 02:26:42.927
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY THEY HAD
02:26:42.994 --> 02:26:45.329
BEEN IN PREVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW
02:26:45.396 --> 02:26:46.097
I DON'T THINK SO A LOT OF TIMES
02:26:46.164 --> 02:26:47.999
IS THIS POPULATION IS TENDS TO
02:26:48.065 --> 02:26:49.333
BE HEALTHIER -- THAN THE
02:26:49.400 --> 02:26:50.868
POPULATION WE HAVE IN OUR
02:26:50.935 --> 02:26:52.770
PRISONS THAT'S ONE OF THE YOU
02:26:52.837 --> 02:26:54.071
KNOW I'M NOT JUST DOING ITS
02:26:54.138 --> 02:26:56.974
HEALTHCARE COSTS NO MY QUESTION
02:26:57.041 --> 02:26:58.309
A LITTLE OVERALL COSTS CORRECT.
02:26:58.376 --> 02:26:59.544
YET WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S
02:26:59.610 --> 02:27:00.845
MORE EXPENSIVE TO HOUSE THEM
02:27:00.912 --> 02:27:02.680
THERE WE BELIEVE THAT -- IT'S
02:27:02.747 --> 02:27:04.215
IT'S PROBABLY A COMPARABLE OR
02:27:04.282 --> 02:27:05.850
EVEN A LITTLE BIT LESS AND THEN
02:27:05.917 --> 02:27:07.585
ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT WE DO HAVE
02:27:07.652 --> 02:27:10.188
A A FAIRLY LOW RECIDIVISM NUMBER.
02:27:10.254 --> 02:27:11.722
THAT IS COMING OUT OF THAT
02:27:11.789 --> 02:27:13.324
PROGRAM SO FAR AND SO WE
02:27:13.391 --> 02:27:16.294
RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF OF THEIR
02:27:16.360 --> 02:27:18.262
RELEASE AND NOT COMING BACK INTO
02:27:18.329 --> 02:27:20.598
PRISON IS A HUGE VALUE FOR US AS
02:27:20.665 --> 02:27:21.799
WELL ALEJO'S COMMENTS SEEM TO
02:27:21.866 --> 02:27:23.401
INDICATE THAT THE COST.
02:27:23.467 --> 02:27:24.936
OUT THE REENTRY FACILITY IS
02:27:25.002 --> 02:27:29.073
HIGHER PER PERSON THAN THE COST
02:27:29.140 --> 02:27:30.908
AT THE THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
02:27:30.975 --> 02:27:33.244
THE WOMAN HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN AT
02:27:33.311 --> 02:27:35.246
AND YOU INDICATE NO.
02:27:35.313 --> 02:27:37.715
THEY'RE NODDING THEIR HEADS YES.
02:27:37.782 --> 02:27:38.983
CAN WE HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION.
02:27:39.050 --> 02:27:40.718
ADD THAT WE USE THE NUMBERS THAT
02:27:40.785 --> 02:27:42.086
ARE PROVIDED IN THE PROPOSAL
02:27:42.153 --> 02:27:43.154
WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT THE
02:27:43.221 --> 02:27:44.422
FINAL CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN
02:27:44.488 --> 02:27:45.990
NEGOTIATED SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT
02:27:46.057 --> 02:27:48.492
THEY COULD CHANGE -- BUT IF YOU
02:27:48.559 --> 02:27:50.461
SIMPLY TAKE THE THE TOTAL DOLLAR
02:27:50.528 --> 02:27:51.696
QUESTION DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER
02:27:51.762 --> 02:27:52.663
OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE HOUSE
02:27:52.730 --> 02:27:54.832
THERE YOU GET ABOUT.
02:27:54.899 --> 02:27:55.666
SIXTY THOUSAND PER YEAR AND
02:27:55.733 --> 02:27:57.001
OTHERWISE THESE WOMEN AS FAR AS
02:27:57.068 --> 02:27:58.469
WE UNDERSTAND WOULD BE HOUSED IN
02:27:58.536 --> 02:28:00.638
THE STATE PRISON WHICH COSTS
02:28:00.705 --> 02:28:02.206
ABOUT TWELVE THOUSAND PER YEAR
02:28:02.273 --> 02:28:03.307
PER INMATE.
02:28:03.374 --> 02:28:05.409
JUST WHAT WE THIS IS THE COST TO
02:28:05.476 --> 02:28:07.411
ADD OR REMOVE ONE IN MAINE IS
02:28:07.478 --> 02:28:08.079
TWELVE THOUSAND BECAUSE YOU ONLY
02:28:08.145 --> 02:28:09.614
HAVE TO PAY OR WE ONLY HAVE TO
02:28:09.680 --> 02:28:10.948
PAY FOR FOOD CLOTHES.
02:28:11.015 --> 02:28:12.483
ETCETERA WE DON'T CUT CITY
02:28:12.550 --> 02:28:14.285
STAFFING YOU ONLY SEE THOSE
02:28:14.352 --> 02:28:15.119
SAVINGS AND OTHER TYPES OF
02:28:15.186 --> 02:28:16.153
STAFFING.
02:28:16.220 --> 02:28:17.288
YOU WOULD ONLY SEE THOSE IF WE
02:28:17.355 --> 02:28:18.189
WERE CLOSING A WHOLE PRESENT
02:28:18.256 --> 02:28:19.257
THAT'S WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
02:28:19.323 --> 02:28:20.491
THE EIGHTY THOUSAND NUMBER THAT
02:28:20.558 --> 02:28:21.592
YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE FAMILIAR
02:28:21.659 --> 02:28:23.461
WITH THAT'S THE AVERAGE COST OF
02:28:23.527 --> 02:28:24.128
A INMATE.
02:28:24.195 --> 02:28:25.896
PER YEAR IN THE STATE PRISON SO
02:28:25.963 --> 02:28:28.399
BY MOVING THAT'S HUNDRED TWENTY
02:28:28.466 --> 02:28:29.900
WOMEN OUT OF THE STATE PRISON.
02:28:29.967 --> 02:28:31.335
WE WOULDN'T BE CLOSING A STATE
02:28:31.402 --> 02:28:32.770
FACILITY SO WE WOULDN'T SEE ANY
02:28:32.837 --> 02:28:34.972
OVERHEAD COSTS GO WAY WHICH IS.
02:28:35.039 --> 02:28:36.607
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
02:28:36.674 --> 02:28:38.976
STAFFING LARGELY -- SO WE WOULD
02:28:39.043 --> 02:28:41.145
BE SAVING ON THINGS LIKE FOOD
02:28:41.212 --> 02:28:44.715
AND CLOTHING AND OTHER WHAT WE
02:28:44.782 --> 02:28:46.484
CALL MARGINAL COSTS.
02:28:46.550 --> 02:28:47.184
NON OVERHEAD ESSENTIALLY AND
02:28:47.251 --> 02:28:47.818
THAT'S ABOUT TWELVE THOUSAND PER
02:28:47.885 --> 02:28:49.353
YEAR.
02:28:49.420 --> 02:28:50.921
ALTHOUGH COUL BE LESS OF THESE
02:28:50.988 --> 02:28:53.157
WOMEN PARTICULAR WOMEN ARE LESS
02:28:53.224 --> 02:29:00.197
COSTLY.
02:29:00.264 --> 02:29:01.899
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY GERMANE
02:29:01.966 --> 02:29:03.968
TO THIS DISCUSSION BUT IN EFFECT
02:29:04.035 --> 02:29:05.069
WHAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING IS THAT
02:29:05.136 --> 02:29:07.805
ANY POPULATION REDUCTION IS NOT.
02:29:07.872 --> 02:29:09.774
A SAVING THIS MONEY.
02:29:09.840 --> 02:29:11.242
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COST IS
02:29:11.309 --> 02:29:12.810
IN ANOTHER FACILITY SO ANY
02:29:12.877 --> 02:29:14.545
POPULATION REDUCTION IN THE
02:29:14.612 --> 02:29:15.112
STATE PRISON IS NOT SAVE US
02:29:15.179 --> 02:29:16.947
MONEY.
02:29:17.014 --> 02:29:18.749
THIS ISN'T A POP A REDUCTION OF
02:29:18.816 --> 02:29:21.152
THE OVERALL INMATE POPULATION IT
02:29:21.218 --> 02:29:22.386
SHOULD IT IS IN A FACILITY
02:29:22.453 --> 02:29:24.422
CORRECT BUT SO IT'S REDUCING THE
02:29:24.488 --> 02:29:25.690
NUMBER OF INMATES IN STATE
02:29:25.756 --> 02:29:27.658
PRISONS AND EACH ONE OF THOSE
02:29:27.725 --> 02:29:29.727
COMES OUT AT AN ANNUAL COST OF
02:29:29.794 --> 02:29:30.828
ABOUT.
02:29:30.895 --> 02:29:31.462
TWELVE THOUSAND BUT THEN WE'RE
02:29:31.529 --> 02:29:33.497
MOVING THEM INTO A MORE COSTLY
02:29:33.564 --> 02:29:35.533
FACILITY BY THE YES BY THAT SOME
02:29:35.599 --> 02:29:40.705
SINS IN THE B. C. P. ABOUT --
02:29:40.771 --> 02:29:42.239
SIXTY THOUSAND PER YEAR SO IT'S
02:29:42.306 --> 02:29:42.873
NOT.
02:29:42.940 --> 02:29:44.375
IT'S SIXTY THOUSAND TOTAL PER
02:29:44.442 --> 02:29:46.277
PERSON PER YEAR COMPARED TO IN
02:29:46.344 --> 02:29:48.145
THE STATE FACILITY WHICH IS
02:29:48.212 --> 02:29:48.746
EIGHTY THOUSAND PER PERSON PER
02:29:48.813 --> 02:29:50.948
YEAR BUT IN A IN THE CASE OF
02:29:51.015 --> 02:29:52.783
ACTIVATING TUNE TO NEW
02:29:52.850 --> 02:29:54.085
FACILITIES WITH.
02:29:54.151 --> 02:29:55.419
THE DECISION THERE IS.
02:29:55.486 --> 02:29:56.821
IS TO ACTIVATE THE WHOLE
02:29:56.887 --> 02:29:58.756
FACILITY AND WENT WITH A SMALL
02:29:58.823 --> 02:30:00.291
FACILITY LIKE.
02:30:00.358 --> 02:30:02.793
SIXTY BEDS EACH YOU'RE STILL.
02:30:02.860 --> 02:30:03.994
YOU'RE YOU'RE OPERATING THE
02:30:04.061 --> 02:30:05.162
WHOLE FACILITY ESSENTIALLY HOW
02:30:05.229 --> 02:30:06.297
MAY HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE YOU%
02:30:06.364 --> 02:30:07.365
CHOOSE TO PUT THERE.
02:30:07.431 --> 02:30:08.499
SO.
02:30:08.566 --> 02:30:10.434
IT'S ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE PAYING
02:30:10.501 --> 02:30:13.137
THE AVERAGE CAUGHT THE FULL --
02:30:13.204 --> 02:30:14.238
SIXTY THOUSAND TO ACTIVATE THE
02:30:14.305 --> 02:30:16.073
NEW FACILITY WERE IS ON A ON
02:30:16.140 --> 02:30:17.375
THE FLIP SIDE WHEN WE'RE
02:30:17.441 --> 02:30:18.976
BRINGING DOWN THE PRISON
02:30:19.043 --> 02:30:20.311
POPULATION WE'RE NOT.
02:30:20.378 --> 02:30:22.113
AS AS A RESULT OF THIS EXPANSION
02:30:22.179 --> 02:30:24.081
GOING TO CLOSE A PRISON SO WHEN
02:30:24.148 --> 02:30:25.583
YOU'RE IN THE ACTIVE ON THE
02:30:25.649 --> 02:30:27.651
ACTIVATION SIDE YOU'RE INCURRING.
02:30:27.718 --> 02:30:29.820
FIXED COSTS ON THE ON THE
02:30:29.887 --> 02:30:31.756
DECLINE TO THE PRISON POPULATION
02:30:31.822 --> 02:30:33.057
YOU'RE NOT.
02:30:33.124 --> 02:30:36.494
SAVING FIXED COSTS OVERHEAD
02:30:36.560 --> 02:30:37.395
COSTS I SHOULD SAY THAT MAKE
02:30:37.461 --> 02:30:37.695
[inaudible]
02:30:37.762 --> 02:30:40.030
MAKES SENSE.
02:30:40.097 --> 02:30:40.398
SO IT.
02:30:40.464 --> 02:30:41.799
ANOTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IS
02:30:41.866 --> 02:30:43.200
THE EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR
02:30:43.267 --> 02:30:44.735
EXAMPLE INCLUDES A LOT OF
02:30:44.802 --> 02:30:46.036
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS AND THEIR
02:30:46.103 --> 02:30:47.104
SALARY AND THE NUMBER OF
02:30:47.171 --> 02:30:48.639
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS THAT ARE
02:30:48.706 --> 02:30:50.074
EMPLOYED BY CDC OURS AND CAN BE
02:30:50.141 --> 02:30:51.942
CHANGED BECAUSE WE TAKE THESE A
02:30:52.009 --> 02:30:53.210
HUNDRED TWENTY WOMEN OUT.
02:30:53.277 --> 02:30:54.245
AND SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA
02:30:54.311 --> 02:30:55.613
CHANGE NUMBER CORRECTIONAL
02:30:55.679 --> 02:30:56.814
OFFICERS UNLESS YOU'RE MAKING A
02:30:56.881 --> 02:30:59.083
LARGE ADJUSTMENTS LIKE ENOUGH TO
02:30:59.150 --> 02:31:00.418
SHUT DOWN ENTIRE WING OF A
02:31:00.484 --> 02:31:03.020
PRISONER OR PRISONER OVERALL.
02:31:03.087 --> 02:31:05.423
BUT IT DOES DEAL WITH OUR OUR
02:31:05.489 --> 02:31:07.425
WOMEN'S FACILITY STILL ARE.
02:31:07.491 --> 02:31:08.959
HI MORE OVERCROWDED DETERMINES
02:31:09.026 --> 02:31:10.194
FACILITIES.
02:31:10.261 --> 02:31:13.330
WHILE WE WHILE OUR COURT ORDER
02:31:13.397 --> 02:31:16.767
NUMBERS IN IT IS A TOTAL NUMBER.
02:31:16.834 --> 02:31:18.169
WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR INDIVIDUAL
02:31:18.235 --> 02:31:19.870
FACILITIES THE ONE SPECIFIC
02:31:19.937 --> 02:31:22.373
CITIES ARE HAVE HAD LESS
02:31:22.440 --> 02:31:24.875
REDUCTION IN OUR MORE CROWDED?
02:31:24.942 --> 02:31:28.112
THAN -- OUR MEN'S FACILITY SO.
02:31:28.179 --> 02:31:29.947
WHILE IT MAY NOT REDUCE COSTS IT
02:31:30.014 --> 02:31:32.750
DOES ADDRESS THAT ISUE OF THE
02:31:32.817 --> 02:31:35.519
OVERCROWDING WHICH WE ARE ALSO
02:31:35.586 --> 02:31:37.354
SUBJECT.
02:31:37.421 --> 02:31:39.557
TO AHEAD I HAVE THE OVERCROWDING
02:31:39.623 --> 02:31:41.525
FIGURES IF YOU'D LIKE -- BUT BY
02:31:41.592 --> 02:31:44.595
A FACILITY VERSES OVERALL OKAY.
02:31:44.662 --> 02:31:47.531
SO THE OVERALL NUMBER IS A
02:31:47.598 --> 02:31:48.132
HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN POINT OF
02:31:48.199 --> 02:31:48.466
WHAT WE HAVE.
02:31:48.532 --> 02:31:51.969
CAVALIERS -- AS OF MAY EIGHTH
02:31:52.036 --> 02:31:53.070
ONE OF OUR WOMEN'S FACILITIES
02:31:53.137 --> 02:31:54.705
WAS AT A HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO
02:31:54.772 --> 02:31:57.508
POINT 5% -- ONE WAS AT A HUNDRED
02:31:57.575 --> 02:31:58.676
TWENTY SIX POINT.
02:31:58.742 --> 02:32:01.545
THREE AND ANOTHER WITH THAT
02:32:01.612 --> 02:32:04.248
HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN POINT.
02:32:04.315 --> 02:32:04.882
NINE THE ORDERLY ONE IS A VOTER
02:32:04.949 --> 02:32:06.383
TWO POINT FIVE ONE TWENTY SIX
02:32:06.450 --> 02:32:09.553
AND ONE SIXTEEN SIXTEEN OKAY SO
02:32:09.620 --> 02:32:11.422
ONE ONE OVER ON AVERAGE -- THE
02:32:11.489 --> 02:32:13.290
FEMALE THE WOMEN'S IN FEMALE
02:32:13.357 --> 02:32:17.127
INSTITUTIONS OVERALL IS AT ONE
02:32:17.194 --> 02:32:18.829
THIRTY THREE POINT.
02:32:18.896 --> 02:32:20.030
NINE AND THE MEN WERE AT ONE
02:32:20.097 --> 02:32:21.098
THIRTY ONE POINT THREE ON
02:32:21.165 --> 02:32:22.500
AVERAGE ACROSS ALTHOUGH MANY
02:32:22.566 --> 02:32:24.401
SOME OF THE MEN'S PRISONS ARE
02:32:24.468 --> 02:32:27.137
FAR MORE IN FAR LESS CROWDED.
02:32:27.204 --> 02:32:29.974
BERMAN FINANCE YOU WANTED TO ADD --
02:32:30.040 --> 02:32:30.941
AYE MADELINE CLAIM DEPARTMENT OF
02:32:31.008 --> 02:32:32.443
FINANCE I THINK.
02:32:32.510 --> 02:32:33.878
WHILE IDEALLY IT WAS CORRECTED
02:32:33.944 --> 02:32:35.546
IF YOU TRULY THAT IF YOU PULL
02:32:35.613 --> 02:32:36.580
THE NUMBER SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
02:32:36.647 --> 02:32:38.215
C. C. TRP PROPOSAL AND DIVIDE IT
02:32:38.282 --> 02:32:39.216
BY THE HUNDRED TWENTY
02:32:39.283 --> 02:32:39.917
PARTICIPANTS YOU DO GET THAT
02:32:39.984 --> 02:32:41.485
COST OF SIXTY THOUSAND BUT IF
02:32:41.552 --> 02:32:42.186
YOU AVERAGE.
02:32:42.253 --> 02:32:44.255
THE COST OF THE ENTIRE C. C. T.
02:32:44.321 --> 02:32:46.891
R. P. PROGRAM IT'S ROUGHLY
02:32:46.957 --> 02:32:48.225
EIGHTY TWO DOLLARS PER DAY --
02:32:48.292 --> 02:32:51.128
PER -- OFFENDER WHICH IS ROUGHLY
02:32:51.195 --> 02:32:53.030
THIRTY THOUSAND PER YEAR SO AS A
02:32:53.097 --> 02:32:55.366
AS A WHOLE FOR THE PROGRAM IT IS
02:32:55.432 --> 02:32:58.302
LESS BUT I DO UNDERSTAND BE
02:32:58.369 --> 02:32:58.936
ALEJO'S POINT I JUST WANT TO
02:32:59.003 --> 02:33:00.104
POINT OUT THAT.
02:33:00.170 --> 02:33:01.906
IN TOTAL THE THE OVERALL PROGRAM
02:33:01.972 --> 02:33:05.743
SAVINGS ARE LESS.
02:33:05.809 --> 02:33:07.912
COSTS ARE LESS.
02:33:07.978 --> 02:33:10.648
VERY I WANNA RETURN -- TO TO THE
02:33:10.714 --> 02:33:12.883
MEDI CAL QUESTION -- SO YOU
02:33:12.950 --> 02:33:14.852
INDICATED THAT.
02:33:14.919 --> 02:33:16.186
WE THAT WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT IT
02:33:16.253 --> 02:33:17.821
ONLINE WE ARE HOPING THAT WE
02:33:17.888 --> 02:33:19.790
WOULD BE ABLE -- TO RECOVER
02:33:19.857 --> 02:33:21.158
COSTS THROUGH MEDICARE ALL USED
02:33:21.225 --> 02:33:22.893
UTILIZING THIS TYPE OF REENTRY
02:33:22.960 --> 02:33:24.662
FACILITY BUT THEN YOU DESCRIBE
02:33:24.728 --> 02:33:26.864
THAT IN INTERACTIONS WITH THEIR
02:33:26.931 --> 02:33:28.999
OWN DEPARTMENT.
02:33:29.066 --> 02:33:29.633
THAT WAS DETERMINE WE COULD NOT
02:33:29.700 --> 02:33:31.101
WERE THERE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
02:33:31.168 --> 02:33:33.671
FEDS.
02:33:33.737 --> 02:33:34.939
SO THOSE DISCOVERY IN OTHER
02:33:35.005 --> 02:33:37.641
WORDS WE OURSELVES PREVENT OUR
02:33:37.708 --> 02:33:40.010
ABILITY -- TO POTENTIALLY RECOUP
02:33:40.077 --> 02:33:42.079
THE COSTS.
02:33:42.146 --> 02:33:45.215
YES FOR YES IT DOES SO THERE IS --
02:33:45.282 --> 02:33:46.750
THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT CAME
02:33:46.817 --> 02:33:48.385
FROM THE FEDS THAT TO FIND --
02:33:48.452 --> 02:33:50.654
WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER
02:33:50.721 --> 02:33:52.456
TO PROVIDE FOR MEDI CAL FNDING
02:33:52.523 --> 02:33:53.557
AND USING THAT DOCUMENT THAT
02:33:53.624 --> 02:33:54.725
CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
02:33:54.792 --> 02:33:55.759
IT WAS OUR?
02:33:55.826 --> 02:33:57.528
AND OURSELVES OUR DEPARTMENT OF
02:33:57.595 --> 02:33:58.862
HEALTH CARE SERVICES THAT
02:33:58.929 --> 02:34:00.664
ULTIMATELY USE THAT DEFINITION
02:34:00.731 --> 02:34:02.266
INDETERMINATE THAT OUR
02:34:02.333 --> 02:34:04.168
PARTICIPANTS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
02:34:04.234 --> 02:34:06.036
YES MA'AM.
02:34:06.103 --> 02:34:07.738
I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT
02:34:07.805 --> 02:34:09.506
TO REVISIT THAT AND TO SEE WHAT
02:34:09.573 --> 02:34:11.475
ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE
02:34:11.542 --> 02:34:12.576
TO MAKE.
02:34:12.643 --> 02:34:14.712
IN THE FACILITY THEY MAY NOT BE
02:34:14.778 --> 02:34:17.081
ACCEPTABLE BUT TO SEE WHAT
02:34:17.147 --> 02:34:17.948
ADJUSTMENTS WE WOULD HAVE TO
02:34:18.015 --> 02:34:19.650
MAKE OR WHETHER THERE'S ANY
02:34:19.717 --> 02:34:20.751
WAIVERS.
02:34:20.818 --> 02:34:23.654
BECAUSE THE PREMISE WHEN WE
02:34:23.721 --> 02:34:27.124
APPROVED THIS WAS THAT PREMISE
02:34:27.191 --> 02:34:28.292
AND HI.
02:34:28.359 --> 02:34:33.330
I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
02:34:33.397 --> 02:34:34.665
MORE THOROUGHLY.
02:34:34.732 --> 02:34:36.200
WE WOULD HAVE EXHAUSTED OUR
02:34:36.266 --> 02:34:38.268
POSSIBILITIES VERSUS JUST
02:34:38.335 --> 02:34:40.738
DETERMINING BASED ON F.
02:34:40.804 --> 02:34:45.643
DEFINITION ON A PIECE OF PAPER --
02:34:45.709 --> 02:34:46.777
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM
02:34:46.844 --> 02:34:50.214
COMMENTS I MEAN COLLEAGUES.
02:34:50.280 --> 02:34:51.315
I JUST HAD SOMEONE ON THE
02:34:51.382 --> 02:34:55.319
ELIGIBILITY -- SO WE HAVE WE
02:34:55.386 --> 02:34:59.323
HAVE LIKE -- THE COURTESY THE
02:34:59.390 --> 02:35:00.924
COMMUNITY TRANSITIONAL REENTRY
02:35:00.991 --> 02:35:03.160
PROGRAM THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING
02:35:03.227 --> 02:35:05.663
ABOUT NOW THEN WE HAVE -- THE
02:35:05.729 --> 02:35:08.265
FEMALE OFFENDER.
02:35:08.332 --> 02:35:09.400
EMINEM PLYMOUTH PROGRAM.
02:35:09.466 --> 02:35:11.135
ACT THAT'S NOTELIGIBLE FOR
02:35:11.201 --> 02:35:12.436
MEDICAL EITHER RIGHT.
02:35:12.503 --> 02:35:13.437
SO THE THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM
02:35:13.504 --> 02:35:15.472
IS ACTUALLY A PAROLES BASED
02:35:15.539 --> 02:35:17.775
PROGRAM THE ONE IT'S BASED IT'S
02:35:17.841 --> 02:35:20.077
IT'S UP PAROLE PROGRAMS OF THOSE
02:35:20.144 --> 02:35:21.512
WOMEN ARE RELEASED FROM.
02:35:21.578 --> 02:35:23.213
STATE PRISON AND SO IT'S MY
02:35:23.280 --> 02:35:25.049
UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE ACTUALLY
02:35:25.115 --> 02:35:26.116
ELIGIBLE FOR MEDI CAL DOT POINTS
02:35:26.183 --> 02:35:28.318
THEN THERE IS A MALE COMMUNITY
02:35:28.385 --> 02:35:30.521
REENTRY PROGRAM.
02:35:30.587 --> 02:35:31.822
THE ELIGIBLE.
02:35:31.889 --> 02:35:33.624
IT'S IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS C.
02:35:33.691 --> 02:35:36.393
C. T. R. P. SO TO SAY IT'S A NOT
02:35:36.460 --> 02:35:41.999
ELIGIBLE -- THEN -- ENHANCE
02:35:42.066 --> 02:35:43.934
ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE THE PROGRAM.
02:35:44.001 --> 02:35:45.569
SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR SIXTY TRP
02:35:45.636 --> 02:35:47.438
PROGRAM SIR THAT'S THE SAME
02:35:47.504 --> 02:35:49.840
THING AS A CC OR DARK CUSTODY TO
02:35:49.907 --> 02:35:51.942
COMMUNITY TRANCE SO -- SO WHERE
02:35:52.009 --> 02:35:55.846
THESE PROGRAMS -- HOW LONG HAVE
02:35:55.913 --> 02:35:58.215
THEY BEEN ESTABLISHED -- IN --
02:35:58.282 --> 02:35:59.616
IN THE STATE BUDGET.
02:35:59.683 --> 02:36:00.184
SO THE CUSTODY TO COMMUNITY
02:36:00.250 --> 02:36:01.685
TRANSIT TRANSITIONAL REENTRY
02:36:01.752 --> 02:36:03.287
PROGRAMS BEGAN IN TWO THOUSAND
02:36:03.353 --> 02:36:04.988
AND FIFTEEN THE MALE COMMUNITY
02:36:05.055 --> 02:36:07.925
REENTRY PROGRAMS CAME ONLINE
02:36:07.991 --> 02:36:10.694
YEARS EARLIER MAYBE.
02:36:10.761 --> 02:36:11.895
WRITTEN RIGHT APARTMENT A
02:36:11.962 --> 02:36:13.197
FINANCE THAT CUT TO THE CITY
02:36:13.263 --> 02:36:14.098
TEAR PEAS THE WOMEN'S PROGRAMS
02:36:14.164 --> 02:36:17.468
WITH TWENTY THIRTEEN AND M. C.
02:36:17.534 --> 02:36:19.770
R. P. WAS.
02:36:19.837 --> 02:36:22.172
TWENTY FIFTEEN OKAY -- WAS --
02:36:22.239 --> 02:36:23.507
WHAT WAS A PROGRAM OF THE CENTER
02:36:23.574 --> 02:36:26.410
LOSE STARTED? FOR WOMEN'S
02:36:26.477 --> 02:36:27.444
REENTRY PROGRAM SHE'S CHAIR
02:36:27.511 --> 02:36:29.046
PROGRAM.
02:36:29.113 --> 02:36:31.181
WAS A PROGRAM.
02:36:31.248 --> 02:36:33.417
THAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY
02:36:33.484 --> 02:36:36.086
PROGRAM THIS CALL THEIR FOR I'M
02:36:36.153 --> 02:36:36.854
JUST GETTING ALL THE NAMES AND I
02:36:36.920 --> 02:36:38.922
WON OKAY TELL ME ABOUT WHEN WAS
02:36:38.989 --> 02:36:41.959
THAT ESTABLISHED.
02:36:42.025 --> 02:36:42.960
IS HOME.
02:36:43.026 --> 02:36:44.461
BECAUSE THE PROGRAM WHAT'S THE
02:36:44.528 --> 02:36:45.129
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THIS
02:36:45.195 --> 02:36:46.663
AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT PROGRAM
02:36:46.730 --> 02:36:48.232
SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS TRYING TO
02:36:48.298 --> 02:36:49.466
FIGURE OUT ALL THESE PROGRAS.
02:36:49.533 --> 02:36:50.801
THAT'S ONE I BELIEVE THAT WAS
02:36:50.868 --> 02:36:52.803
ESTABLISHED AROUND I'D WANT TO
02:36:52.870 --> 02:36:56.140
SAY AROUND TWENTY ELEVEN AND
02:36:56.206 --> 02:36:57.641
TWENTY TEN JONES SOMETIME IN
02:36:57.708 --> 02:36:58.175
THAT -- IS AN AUTHOR THAT
02:36:58.242 --> 02:37:00.410
PROPOSAL AND BY THE DEPARTMENT
02:37:00.477 --> 02:37:01.545
MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO IT
02:37:01.612 --> 02:37:03.313
MORE -- THAN THAN I IN GREATER
02:37:03.380 --> 02:37:04.748
DETAIL BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS
02:37:04.815 --> 02:37:06.250
THE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY PROGRAM
02:37:06.316 --> 02:37:07.718
TYPICALLY WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING
02:37:07.785 --> 02:37:09.586
WITH THESE WOMEN -- AND NOW IT'S
02:37:09.653 --> 02:37:11.889
AVAILABLE TO MEN AS WELL IF I'M
02:37:11.955 --> 02:37:14.324
CORRECT -- THEY ARE ABLE TO STAY
02:37:14.391 --> 02:37:15.993
IN THE COMMUNITY TYPICALLY IT'S
02:37:16.059 --> 02:37:17.394
WITH FAMILY MEMBERS THAT THEY'LL
02:37:17.461 --> 02:37:18.295
STAY.
02:37:18.362 --> 02:37:19.830
AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN A
02:37:19.897 --> 02:37:21.265
FACILITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE C.
02:37:21.331 --> 02:37:23.233
TRP SO THAT IS THAT'S THE MAIN
02:37:23.300 --> 02:37:24.635
DIFFERENCE DOES THAT PROGRAM
02:37:24.701 --> 02:37:30.774
ELIGIBLE -- FOR MEDI CAL.
02:37:30.841 --> 02:37:31.942
REIMBURSE YES YES THOSE MEN AND
02:37:32.009 --> 02:37:33.310
WOMEN IN THE ALTERNATIVE CUTS
02:37:33.377 --> 02:37:33.844
THE PROGRAM ARE ELIGIBLE.
02:37:33.911 --> 02:37:36.647
SO SO IF WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM IS
02:37:36.713 --> 02:37:37.214
ELIGIBLE IN THIS ONE ISN'T.
02:37:37.281 --> 02:37:38.215
OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE
02:37:38.282 --> 02:37:39.783
ONES HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
02:37:39.850 --> 02:37:41.552
CURRENTLY IN THE ONE THAT.
02:37:41.618 --> 02:37:43.086
OF HIS OLD ONE FOR THE MEDICAL
02:37:43.153 --> 02:37:44.988
REIMBURSEMENT. SEVEN THAT ARE
02:37:45.055 --> 02:37:46.990
ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR THIS.
02:37:47.057 --> 02:37:47.658
ONE KIND OF WONDERING WHY YOU'RE
02:37:47.724 --> 02:37:48.859
NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR
02:37:48.926 --> 02:37:49.827
THE OTHER.
02:37:49.893 --> 02:37:50.661
ONE SO THE ALTERNATIVE CUTS THE
02:37:50.727 --> 02:37:52.329
PROGRAM THOSE THOSE OFFENDERS
02:37:52.396 --> 02:37:53.831
ARE ACTUALLY RELEASED OUT INTO
02:37:53.897 --> 02:37:55.933
EITHER A PRIVATE RESIDENCE OR
02:37:55.999 --> 02:37:58.502
INTO A PROGRAM -- AND AND SO WE
02:37:58.569 --> 02:38:01.338
NO LONGER HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT --
02:38:01.405 --> 02:38:04.107
ASIDE FROM PAROLES AND ARE
02:38:04.174 --> 02:38:06.877
TYPICAL -- INTERACTIONS WITH
02:38:06.944 --> 02:38:08.478
THEM ON A PAROLE BASIS AND
02:38:08.545 --> 02:38:10.280
THAT'S WHY THESE CUSTODY TO
02:38:10.347 --> 02:38:11.348
COMMUNITY TRANSITIONAL RIO
02:38:11.415 --> 02:38:14.484
BRANCHER PROGRAMS THESE ARE OUR
02:38:14.551 --> 02:38:16.386
RUN.
02:38:16.453 --> 02:38:17.955
WITH BY US WE MONITOR THEM WE
02:38:18.021 --> 02:38:18.922
HAVE PAROLE AGENTS AT THE
02:38:18.989 --> 02:38:20.357
FACILITY AS WELL AS COUNSELORS
02:38:20.424 --> 02:38:22.960
AT THE FACILITY AND THEN WE HAVE --
02:38:23.026 --> 02:38:24.828
TYPICALLY AT A NONPROFIT
02:38:24.895 --> 02:38:25.896
ORGANIZATION THAT RUNS THE RE
02:38:25.963 --> 02:38:27.397
AND HAVE BILL TATIAN PROGRAMS
02:38:27.464 --> 02:38:28.699
AND SUCH I UNDERSTAND HOW MANY
02:38:28.765 --> 02:38:30.267
HOW MANY -- PEOPLE ARE IN THE
02:38:30.334 --> 02:38:31.602
OTHER PROGRAM ON THE OTHER
02:38:31.668 --> 02:38:33.904
PROGRAM WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY
02:38:33.971 --> 02:38:34.872
FORTY WOMEN IN THE ALTERNATIVE
02:38:34.938 --> 02:38:36.707
CUSTODY PROGRAM AND THEN FOR THE
02:38:36.773 --> 02:38:37.341
MEN.
02:38:37.407 --> 02:38:39.843
WE WE ARE NORMALLY BETWEEN ABOUT
02:38:39.910 --> 02:38:41.345
A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED AND
02:38:41.411 --> 02:38:43.080
TWENTY IS THAT ONE FULL.
02:38:43.146 --> 02:38:44.348
CAPACITIES AT THE THERE'S NO BAD
02:38:44.414 --> 02:38:45.716
NUMBERS THERE SO THAT REALLY IS
02:38:45.782 --> 02:38:47.384
AS MANY AS QUALIFY WE COULD PUT
02:38:47.451 --> 02:38:48.619
OUT THERE INTO THOSE PROGRAMS
02:38:48.685 --> 02:38:50.320
BECAUSE THEY GO OUT EITHER TO A
02:38:50.387 --> 02:38:52.522
FAMILY MEMBER OR A SPOUSE PARENT.
02:38:52.589 --> 02:38:54.424
OR INTO A PRIVATE PROGRAM THAT
02:38:54.491 --> 02:38:56.994
THEY ACTUALLY -- FINE IS THAT
02:38:57.060 --> 02:38:58.528
THE PROGRAM WHERE THESE THEY GET
02:38:58.595 --> 02:39:01.531
SENT TO A A RE ENTRY NONPROFIT
02:39:01.598 --> 02:39:03.634
ORGANIZATION.
02:39:03.700 --> 02:39:04.201
AND THEY CAN LIVE WITH THEIR
02:39:04.268 --> 02:39:04.868
CHILDREN.
02:39:04.935 --> 02:39:06.503
SO THAT'S A ACTUALLY A SEPARATE
02:39:06.570 --> 02:39:08.171
PROGRAM THOSE A I'M TRYING TO
02:39:08.238 --> 02:39:08.906
GET ALL THESE THINGS STRAIGHT
02:39:08.972 --> 02:39:10.807
SETS COMMUNITY PRISONER MOTHER
02:39:10.874 --> 02:39:12.476
PROGRAM THAT'S A TWENTY FOUR BED
02:39:12.542 --> 02:39:13.977
WAS ONES WHAT'S IT CALLED THE
02:39:14.044 --> 02:39:14.945
COMMUNITY PRISONER MOTHER
02:39:15.012 --> 02:39:16.046
PROGRAM IT'S IN POMONA
02:39:16.113 --> 02:39:17.981
CALIFORNIA. TO TWENTY FOUR BED
02:39:18.048 --> 02:39:24.755
FACILITY RIGHT SO IS THERE
02:39:24.821 --> 02:39:27.791
PROGRAM -- LOS WERE -- EXPANSION
02:39:27.858 --> 02:39:30.627
IS THAT -- THOSE PROGRAMS
02:39:30.694 --> 02:39:31.762
ELIGIBLE FOR MEDI CAL.
02:39:31.828 --> 02:39:32.262
THE OF THE WOMEN IN THAT
02:39:32.329 --> 02:39:32.896
PARTICULAR PROGRAM ACTUALLY GO
02:39:32.963 --> 02:39:33.463
BACK TO THE INSTITUTION FOR
02:39:33.530 --> 02:39:34.731
MEDICAL SERVICES THE CHILDREN
02:39:34.798 --> 02:39:35.832
ARE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICARE ALL IN
02:39:35.899 --> 02:39:37.534
THEIR TREATMENT IS PROVIDED THAT
02:39:37.601 --> 02:39:39.703
WAY -- AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY
02:39:39.770 --> 02:39:41.505
AT TWENTY TWO WOMEN IN THAT
02:39:41.571 --> 02:39:43.473
PARTICULAR PROGRAM -- THE
02:39:43.540 --> 02:39:45.042
NUMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY
02:39:45.108 --> 02:39:46.643
ELIGIBLE FOR THAT ARE FAIRLY LOW --
02:39:46.710 --> 02:39:49.613
BASED ON ON THE FACT THAT THEY
02:39:49.680 --> 02:39:51.281
CAN'T HAVE ANY CRIMES AGAINST
02:39:51.348 --> 02:39:54.117
CHILDREN AND I KNOW ENDANGERMENT
02:39:54.184 --> 02:39:56.620
TYPE OF OF ISSUES AND SO.
02:39:56.687 --> 02:39:57.721
WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A VERY
02:39:57.788 --> 02:39:59.356
LARGE PIPELINE FOR THAT
02:39:59.423 --> 02:40:00.724
PARTICULAR FACILITY.
02:40:00.791 --> 02:40:01.858
RISEN ASKING THIS IS YOU'RE
02:40:01.925 --> 02:40:03.226
YOU'RE ASKING.
02:40:03.293 --> 02:40:05.796
FOR THE EIGHT POINT FOUR MILLION --
02:40:05.862 --> 02:40:06.396
IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THIS
02:40:06.463 --> 02:40:07.497
PROGRAM.
02:40:07.564 --> 02:40:08.799
WHICH WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR
02:40:08.865 --> 02:40:10.367
MEDI CAL BUT WE HAVE ALL THESE
02:40:10.434 --> 02:40:11.635
OTHER PROGRAMS.
02:40:11.702 --> 02:40:12.703
AND I KNOW THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
02:40:12.769 --> 02:40:14.538
QUALIFICATIONS DIFFERENT TYPES
02:40:14.604 --> 02:40:16.640
OF PEOPLE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW
02:40:16.707 --> 02:40:18.442
LIKE THAT BUT I I I I I I THINK
02:40:18.508 --> 02:40:19.843
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT.
02:40:19.910 --> 02:40:22.980
WE GET THE FULL SCOPE OF ALL THE
02:40:23.046 --> 02:40:24.648
THE RE ENTRY PROGRAMS.
02:40:24.715 --> 02:40:25.582
SAID AND AND WHAT'S WHAT'S
02:40:25.649 --> 02:40:28.218
WHAT'S THEIR ACTUAL SUCCESS AND
02:40:28.285 --> 02:40:29.920
FOR THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THEY'RE
02:40:29.987 --> 02:40:31.655
SERVING AND DO THEY DO THEY
02:40:31.722 --> 02:40:33.757
MERIT -- SOME CONSIDERATION
02:40:33.824 --> 02:40:35.726
EDITION OF THIS PROGRAM ARE AS
02:40:35.792 --> 02:40:37.828
OPPOSED TO THIS PROGRAM AND SURE
02:40:37.894 --> 02:40:40.430
OF A THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I
02:40:40.497 --> 02:40:43.834
LOOKED AT THIS SO I THINK IT'S A
02:40:43.900 --> 02:40:44.334
FAIR QUESTION.
02:40:44.401 --> 02:40:46.203
BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE --
02:40:46.269 --> 02:40:47.471
THESE -- SUCCESSFUL REENTRY
02:40:47.537 --> 02:40:49.439
PROGRAMS.
02:40:49.506 --> 02:40:50.907
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE SO
02:40:50.974 --> 02:40:53.076
SO I LIKE TO HAVE THAT.
02:40:53.143 --> 02:40:55.178
IN A WAY MAYBE WE HAVE SO MANY
02:40:55.245 --> 02:40:57.447
AT ARE THEY MANAGED BY THE SAME
02:40:57.514 --> 02:40:59.916
PEOPLE OR HE EXPLAINED OUT HOW
02:40:59.983 --> 02:41:01.318
THE MANAGEMENT OF ALL THESE
02:41:01.385 --> 02:41:02.552
REENTRY PROGRAMS.
02:41:02.619 --> 02:41:04.187
SO IT THAT CUSTODY TO COMMUNITY
02:41:04.254 --> 02:41:05.689
TRANSITIONAL REENTRY PROGRAMS
02:41:05.756 --> 02:41:07.591
ARE ACTUALLY UNDER THAT FEMALE
02:41:07.657 --> 02:41:09.426
OFFENDER PROGRAMS AND SERVICES
02:41:09.493 --> 02:41:11.395
EACH OF THE PROGRAMS ON THE
02:41:11.461 --> 02:41:13.563
COMMUNITY ARE RAN BY A DIFFERENT
02:41:13.630 --> 02:41:15.899
ENTITY SO WE HAVE ON LA KATA
02:41:15.966 --> 02:41:18.001
ALLEN THE LOS ANGELES AREA WE
02:41:18.068 --> 02:41:19.136
HAVE WEST CARE.
02:41:19.202 --> 02:41:20.370
SO I ST JOHN'S HERE IN
02:41:20.437 --> 02:41:21.371
SACRAMENTO'S WITH DIFFERENT
02:41:21.438 --> 02:41:22.973
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP TO RUN
02:41:23.040 --> 02:41:24.408
THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEIR
02:41:24.474 --> 02:41:26.943
OVERSEEN BY OUR CONTRACT BED
02:41:27.010 --> 02:41:28.979
UNIT WHICH FALLS INTO MY MY
02:41:29.046 --> 02:41:29.980
MISSION.
02:41:30.047 --> 02:41:31.314
THE MALE COMMUNITY REENTRY
02:41:31.381 --> 02:41:33.050
PROGRAMS ARE ACTUALLY RUN BY THE
02:41:33.116 --> 02:41:34.551
DIVISION OF REHABILITATIVE
02:41:34.618 --> 02:41:36.586
PROGRAMS AND SO THAT A SEPARATE
02:41:36.653 --> 02:41:39.756
ENTITY FOR US OKAY -- I WOULD
02:41:39.823 --> 02:41:40.957
APPRECIATE IT THAT'S ALL I'M
02:41:41.024 --> 02:41:42.125
ASKING I'M ASKING.
02:41:42.192 --> 02:41:44.061
FOR MAYBE -- A LOOK AT ALL THOSE
02:41:44.127 --> 02:41:48.932
AND TO SEE WHICH ONES ARE.
02:41:48.999 --> 02:41:50.500
THE THE WINNERS IN TERMS OF SIX
02:41:50.567 --> 02:41:51.802
SIN.
02:41:51.868 --> 02:41:52.636
YOU KNOW WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT
02:41:52.702 --> 02:41:56.139
WAY THANK.
02:41:56.206 --> 02:41:56.840
FEDERAL.
02:41:56.907 --> 02:41:58.875
MADAM CHAIR JUST A COUPLE BASIC
02:41:58.942 --> 02:42:00.143
QUESTIONS.
02:42:00.210 --> 02:42:01.945
IT IS A HISTORY OF PROVIDING
02:42:02.012 --> 02:42:04.881
POPULATION ADJUSTMENTS IS THIS.
02:42:04.948 --> 02:42:06.349
SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING.
02:42:06.416 --> 02:42:09.286
FOR NUMBER OF YEARS YEAH I'M
02:42:09.352 --> 02:42:11.088
LIKE A OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT
02:42:11.154 --> 02:42:12.355
ARE DRIVEN STE MORE ON CASELOAD
02:42:12.422 --> 02:42:13.690
OF LIKE OF THERE'S A LOT OF
02:42:13.757 --> 02:42:14.991
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
02:42:15.058 --> 02:42:16.259
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE A
02:42:16.326 --> 02:42:18.061
POPULATION ADJUSTMENTS LIQUOR
02:42:18.128 --> 02:42:20.997
TWICE A YEAR -- WE HAVE A JUST
02:42:21.064 --> 02:42:22.566
CONSIDER MADE.
02:42:22.632 --> 02:42:24.101
BASED ON OUR INMATE AND KAROLI
02:42:24.167 --> 02:42:25.902
LEVELS ARE BASED ON THE STAFFING
02:42:25.969 --> 02:42:27.704
STANDARDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED
02:42:27.771 --> 02:42:28.839
WITH THAT POPULATION.
02:42:28.905 --> 02:42:30.540
VOTER MANPOWER MANAGEMENT
02:42:30.607 --> 02:42:31.875
FUNCTIONS.
02:42:31.942 --> 02:42:32.542
IT'S THAT AND IT'S OTHER THINGS
02:42:32.609 --> 02:42:33.543
AS WELL IF THROUGH OUR
02:42:33.610 --> 02:42:36.179
POPULATION PROCESS WE ALSO DO --
02:42:36.246 --> 02:42:38.215
HOUSING UNIT CONVERSIONS AS WE
02:42:38.281 --> 02:42:39.850
HAVE THE POPULATION CHANGES AND
02:42:39.916 --> 02:42:40.917
SHIFTS.
02:42:40.984 --> 02:42:44.654
AND WE NEED TO SHIFT THINGS
02:42:44.721 --> 02:42:46.690
AROUND WITH OUR PRISON.
02:42:46.756 --> 02:42:48.358
AND WE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF
02:42:48.425 --> 02:42:48.992
NUMBERS OTHER WAY NO NUMEROUS
02:42:49.059 --> 02:42:50.160
OTHER THINGS WE D THROUGH THAT
02:42:50.227 --> 02:42:52.028
PROCESS BASED ON POPULATION.
02:42:52.095 --> 02:42:53.230
AND I'M SEEING LEASE FOR THE
02:42:53.296 --> 02:42:55.265
ADULT POPULATION THAT THERE'S
02:42:55.332 --> 02:42:56.466
SOME DECREASES.
02:42:56.533 --> 02:42:58.068
BUT BIG NUMBERS BUT THREE FORTY
02:42:58.135 --> 02:43:00.971
ONE AND TWO SIXTY SIX DO YOU DO
02:43:01.037 --> 02:43:05.008
PLAYOFFS OR YES IN FACT WILL NOT
02:43:05.075 --> 02:43:06.376
LAY OFFS WE TRY NOT.
02:43:06.443 --> 02:43:08.311
TO BUT IN THIS -- PARTICULAR
02:43:08.378 --> 02:43:09.412
BUDGET WE HAVE.
02:43:09.479 --> 02:43:12.082
WE'RE ASSUMING THAT ALL OF OUR
02:43:12.149 --> 02:43:13.250
INMATES THAT ARE EVEN OUT OF
02:43:13.316 --> 02:43:15.685
STATE FACILITIES WE CURRENTLY
02:43:15.752 --> 02:43:17.254
USED TO HAVE -- INMATES IN -- A
02:43:17.320 --> 02:43:19.422
FEW STATES WE NOW HAVE INMATES
02:43:19.489 --> 02:43:21.258
ONLY LEFT IN ARIZONA.
02:43:21.324 --> 02:43:23.026
THAT GROUP WILL BE -- GONE Y
02:43:23.093 --> 02:43:24.628
THE END OF THE YEAR AND SO WE DO
02:43:24.694 --> 02:43:25.762
HAVE.
02:43:25.829 --> 02:43:27.564
A FEW POSITIONS WITHIN THE
02:43:27.631 --> 02:43:29.966
CONTRACT AND UNIT THAT ARE
02:43:30.033 --> 02:43:31.334
COMING DOWN WITH THAT AS WELL.
02:43:31.401 --> 02:43:33.570
SO WHEN YOU HAVE AN INCREASE YOU
02:43:33.637 --> 02:43:34.971
CAN GO OUT OF STATE.
02:43:35.038 --> 02:43:38.241
AN OUT SOURCE.
02:43:38.308 --> 02:43:40.210
THAT IS CORRECT THAT OUR GOAL IS
02:43:40.277 --> 02:43:41.444
TO ELIMINATE THE USE OF THOSE
02:43:41.511 --> 02:43:43.180
OUT OF STATE BEDS RIGHT BUT IT'S
02:43:43.246 --> 02:43:44.915
A IT'S A STRATEGY WHEN YOU HAVE
02:43:44.981 --> 02:43:46.383
AN INCREASING POPULATION THEN
02:43:46.449 --> 02:43:48.685
AND SO TO A TEMPORARY SOLUTION
02:43:48.752 --> 02:43:50.353
THAT.
02:43:50.420 --> 02:43:51.788
BUT HOPEFULLY YOU'RE YOU'RE.
02:43:51.855 --> 02:43:53.356
TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING CLOSE
02:43:53.423 --> 02:43:54.591
BY OKAY.
02:43:54.658 --> 02:43:55.692
AND THEN SINCE YOU BEEN PUTTING
02:43:55.759 --> 02:43:57.527
A LOT OF NUMBERS.
02:43:57.594 --> 02:43:59.396
DO WE HAVE A COST PER CAPITA.
02:43:59.462 --> 02:44:04.501
FOR OUR PRISON POPULATION.
02:44:04.568 --> 02:44:05.969
MAY I RECOMMEND HER TO FINANCE --
02:44:06.036 --> 02:44:07.003
WE DO PUBLISH A PER CAPITA
02:44:07.070 --> 02:44:08.505
DISPLAY WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
02:44:08.572 --> 02:44:10.407
BUDGET EVERY YEAR WE CALCULATE --
02:44:10.473 --> 02:44:11.441
BASED ON VARIOUS FACTORS HOW
02:44:11.508 --> 02:44:13.210
MUCH IT PROXIMALLY COST TO HOUSE
02:44:13.276 --> 02:44:15.845
A PRISONER PER YEAR WE ALSO HAVE
02:44:15.912 --> 02:44:17.080
PER CAPITA FOR PAROLE -- CAN AND
02:44:17.147 --> 02:44:19.416
THAT'S DOES IT GIVE YOU PRIOR
02:44:19.482 --> 02:44:20.717
YEARS AS WELL.
02:44:20.784 --> 02:44:22.252
GRADE WERE WHEN I GET THAT JUST
02:44:22.319 --> 02:44:23.453
ON YOUR WEBSITE.
02:44:23.520 --> 02:44:24.821
SO THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET BUT WE
02:44:24.888 --> 02:44:26.056
CAN CERTAINLY SENATOR STUFF
02:44:26.122 --> 02:44:29.025
INDEED WE DO A CORRELATION WITH
02:44:29.092 --> 02:44:31.161
OTHER STATES TO BE COMPARED AND
02:44:31.228 --> 02:44:32.662
WE HAVE IN THE COMPARISON I
02:44:32.729 --> 02:44:33.196
CAN'T THINK OF WHERE IT'S
02:44:33.263 --> 02:44:34.564
PUBLISHED OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD
02:44:34.631 --> 02:44:37.667
BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
02:44:37.734 --> 02:44:38.935
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU
02:44:39.002 --> 02:44:39.169
MANAGER.
02:44:39.236 --> 02:44:41.271
CERTAINLY.
02:44:41.338 --> 02:44:44.341
WHAT ABOUT TO THE -- COMMUNITY --
02:44:44.407 --> 02:44:45.508
KASEY COMMUNITY TRANSITIONAL
02:44:45.575 --> 02:44:48.044
REENTRY SO THESE ARE NOT LOCKED
02:44:48.111 --> 02:44:49.446
FACILITIES.
02:44:49.512 --> 02:44:51.181
OR AT THE LEAST THEY'RE NOT.
02:44:51.248 --> 02:44:53.683
LOCKED IN THE SAME WAY THAT AS
02:44:53.750 --> 02:44:55.919
THE FACILITY THAT THE INMATE
02:44:55.986 --> 02:44:58.088
LEFT BECAUSE IT STATES RATE IN
02:44:58.154 --> 02:44:59.456
THE ANALYSIS THAT THESE ARE
02:44:59.522 --> 02:45:00.523
PARTICIPANTS THAT HAVE AN
02:45:00.590 --> 02:45:02.959
ELECTRONIC MONITORING DEVICE.
02:45:03.026 --> 02:45:04.995
WHICH MEANS THE LEAVE.
02:45:05.061 --> 02:45:06.663
THEY ARE IN THERE'S MONITORING
02:45:06.730 --> 02:45:08.431
OF THAT DEVICE OBVIOUSLY TO MAKE
02:45:08.498 --> 02:45:10.267
SURE THAT THEY DON'T VIOLATE WE
02:45:10.333 --> 02:45:11.735
HAVE POOL WE HAVE PEOPLE ON
02:45:11.801 --> 02:45:14.571
PAROLE SELECT TRONIC MONITORING
02:45:14.638 --> 02:45:17.073
DEVICES -- AND IT MENTIONS THAT
02:45:17.140 --> 02:45:18.375
A PRO AGENTS AGENT IS
02:45:18.441 --> 02:45:20.176
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSTALLATION
02:45:20.243 --> 02:45:21.945
AND MONITORING OF THE DEVICE.
02:45:22.012 --> 02:45:24.781
SO I GUESS I JUST REALLY FEEL
02:45:24.848 --> 02:45:26.483
THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGH
02:45:26.549 --> 02:45:28.218
ABOUT THE PREMISE OF STARTING
02:45:28.285 --> 02:45:32.856
THIS PROGRAM WAS BECAUSE OF THE
02:45:32.922 --> 02:45:35.325
POTENTIAL WILL BOTH FIRST. TO
02:45:35.392 --> 02:45:37.460
HELP INCREASE SUCCESSFUL REENTRY
02:45:37.527 --> 02:45:39.562
BUT ADDITIONALLY BECAUSE WE
02:45:39.629 --> 02:45:42.098
WOULD BE ABLE.
02:45:42.165 --> 02:45:44.934
TO UTILIZE THE THE BET FEDERAL
02:45:45.001 --> 02:45:46.636
BENEFITS AND OTHERS TO COVER
02:45:46.703 --> 02:45:48.305
COSTS THAT WE OTHERWISE SINKER
02:45:48.371 --> 02:45:50.440
IF WE HOLD THEM IN OUR STATE
02:45:50.507 --> 02:45:52.375
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY.
02:45:52.442 --> 02:45:54.944
SO IT IT'S IT WOULD BE VERY
02:45:55.011 --> 02:45:56.179
SIGNIFICANT.
02:45:56.246 --> 02:45:58.581
WHAT WE WOULD SAY THAT THESE
02:45:58.648 --> 02:46:00.417
FOUR HUNDRED WOMEN WERE -- THAT
02:46:00.483 --> 02:46:01.685
ARE CURRENTLY WITHOUT EVEN AN
02:46:01.751 --> 02:46:03.286
INCREASE JUST THE FOUR HUNDRED
02:46:03.353 --> 02:46:05.555
BEDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WERE
02:46:05.622 --> 02:46:09.359
AT IF IT IF THIS WERE DESIGNED
02:46:09.426 --> 02:46:11.127
IN THE WAY THAT WE HAD INTENDED
02:46:11.194 --> 02:46:14.931
WHEN WE APPROVED IN [inaudible]
02:46:14.998 --> 02:46:18.168
TWENTY FIFTEEN A SORRY METAL
02:46:18.234 --> 02:46:19.269
INGREDIENTS DESK FINANCE -- SO
02:46:19.336 --> 02:46:21.671
IT ACTUALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE
02:46:21.738 --> 02:46:22.772
IT'S CALLED THE THE MOVEMENT
02:46:22.839 --> 02:46:24.941
ISSUE AND THAT THE THE PEOPLE
02:46:25.008 --> 02:46:25.675
THAT THE WOMEN IN THESE
02:46:25.742 --> 02:46:26.943
FACILITIES AND MANY FACILITIES
02:46:27.010 --> 02:46:28.345
ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO
02:46:28.411 --> 02:46:30.513
THE FACILITY AT NIGHT AND STAY
02:46:30.580 --> 02:46:32.916
THERE THEY HAVE -- A DESIGNATED
02:46:32.982 --> 02:46:34.951
TIMES RIGHT THERE CHECK IN AND
02:46:35.018 --> 02:46:36.986
SO IT'S THAT DESIGNATION ALSO
02:46:37.053 --> 02:46:38.388
THAT THAT ARE DESIGNING SO I
02:46:38.455 --> 02:46:42.926
GUESS WHAT I'M RAISING IS.
02:46:42.992 --> 02:46:47.831
THAT WE BOB THRICE THIS
02:46:47.897 --> 02:46:48.131
[inaudible]
02:46:48.198 --> 02:46:51.901
UNDER THE PRETTY CATION THAT WE
02:46:51.968 --> 02:46:53.436
WOULD HAVE A DESIGN.
02:46:53.503 --> 02:46:56.239
THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO RECOVER
02:46:56.306 --> 02:46:57.874
THOSE COSTS SO I WANT.
02:46:57.941 --> 02:46:59.309
THE WHEN WHAT COMES BACK AND
02:46:59.376 --> 02:47:00.810
WE'RE GONNA HAVE NUMBERS AND
02:47:00.877 --> 02:47:01.978
SUCH ADJUSTMENTS.
02:47:02.045 --> 02:47:04.013
OWN MAKE SURE THAT THE ITEM
02:47:04.080 --> 02:47:05.382
INCLUDES LANGUAGE.
02:47:05.448 --> 02:47:08.017
THAT -- DIRECTS THE DEPARTMENT
02:47:08.084 --> 02:47:15.291
TO LOOK AT THAT DESIGN.
02:47:15.358 --> 02:47:16.993
IT'S SORT OF ONE OF THOSE WELL
02:47:17.060 --> 02:47:20.463
WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT -- BUT WE
02:47:20.530 --> 02:47:22.499
KNOW IT'S GOT TO COME BACK
02:47:22.565 --> 02:47:24.834
BECAUSE THERE'S NUMBER
02:47:24.901 --> 02:47:26.903
ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.
02:47:26.970 --> 02:47:29.139
I AM SO APPRECIATE THAT WHEN IT
02:47:29.205 --> 02:47:30.473
COMES BACK.
02:47:30.540 --> 02:47:31.775
ALRIGHT SO IT'S WERE HOLDING IT
02:47:31.841 --> 02:47:32.976
OPEN NOW.
02:47:33.042 --> 02:47:33.977
AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO SEE IF
02:47:34.043 --> 02:47:35.912
THERE'S YES AND THEN PUBLIC
02:47:35.979 --> 02:47:37.614
COMMENT IF THERE IS PUBLIC
02:47:37.680 --> 02:47:39.282
COMING TO HAVE THEM.
02:47:39.349 --> 02:47:41.151
COME BACK SO. TO SOME BASIC
02:47:41.217 --> 02:47:41.818
INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THOSE
02:47:41.885 --> 02:47:45.121
TOGETHER REENTRY PROGRAMS AND
02:47:45.188 --> 02:47:45.755
WHAT THEY DO AND HOW MUCH THEY
02:47:45.822 --> 02:47:49.159
COST.
02:47:49.225 --> 02:47:51.361
IS THE BASIC.
02:47:51.428 --> 02:47:52.896
THESE ARE ALTERNATIVE CUSTODY
02:47:52.962 --> 02:47:55.131
PROGRAM YEAH RIGHT ALL THOSE FOR
02:47:55.198 --> 02:47:57.200
ME THE FOLKS THAT ARE.
02:47:57.267 --> 02:47:58.835
OUR FULLY OUT OF OUR THANK YOU
02:47:58.902 --> 02:47:59.436
YOUR ALTERNATIVE CASSIDY OKAY.
02:47:59.502 --> 02:48:00.703
THANK YOU.
02:48:00.770 --> 02:48:01.371
CERTAINLY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
02:48:01.438 --> 02:48:02.672
ITEM.
02:48:02.739 --> 02:48:06.242
OKAY WILL NOW GO.
02:48:06.309 --> 02:48:08.378
TO THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM
02:48:08.445 --> 02:48:08.678
[inaudible]
02:48:08.745 --> 02:48:11.948
JUDICIAL BRANCH. ZERO TWO FIFTY
02:48:12.015 --> 02:48:17.053
ISSUE TWENTY NINE JUDGESHIPS
02:48:17.120 --> 02:48:17.353
[inaudible]
02:48:17.420 --> 02:48:18.188
YEP [inaudible]
02:48:18.254 --> 02:48:31.134
YEAH [inaudible]
02:48:31.201 --> 02:48:38.174
THIS [inaudible]
02:48:38.241 --> 02:48:40.343
YES.
02:48:40.410 --> 02:48:41.144
THANK.
02:48:41.211 --> 02:48:42.779
YOU YOU MAY BEGIN ALL RIGHT
02:48:42.846 --> 02:48:44.514
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRS LINED
02:48:44.581 --> 02:48:46.249
PRODUCER SOLVES FOR ASSEMBLY
02:48:46.316 --> 02:48:47.217
CERTAINLY SLOT COMPUTER WHICH
02:48:47.283 --> 02:48:48.551
BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR THE JUDICIAL
02:48:48.618 --> 02:48:49.486
COUNCIL.
02:48:49.552 --> 02:48:51.855
AND I'M HERE WITH ONLY A ROSE
02:48:51.921 --> 02:48:53.756
COULD WIN AND THE NANCY EVERHART --
02:48:53.823 --> 02:48:56.226
WE ARE HERE -- TO EXCITEDLY --
02:48:56.292 --> 02:48:57.927
DOWNS THE THE MAY REVISION
02:48:57.994 --> 02:48:59.429
PROPOSAL FOR TWENTY FIVE
02:48:59.496 --> 02:49:02.332
JUDGESHIPS IT WAS A PRIORITY --
02:49:02.398 --> 02:49:04.767
FOR THE THE BRANCH IN THE CHIEF
02:49:04.834 --> 02:49:05.635
THREE ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS
02:49:05.702 --> 02:49:06.903
YEAR OUR FIRST HEARING IT IS
02:49:06.970 --> 02:49:08.304
AGAIN THREE POINT FOUR MILLION
02:49:08.371 --> 02:49:10.173
DOLLARS IN NINETEEN TWENTY RIGHT
02:49:10.240 --> 02:49:12.075
RAISING TWO THIRTY SIX AND A
02:49:12.141 --> 02:49:12.809
HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
02:49:12.876 --> 02:49:15.445
ON GOING TO ALLOCATE A TWENTY
02:49:15.512 --> 02:49:17.213
FIVE OF FORTY EIGHT JUDGESHIPS
02:49:17.280 --> 02:49:22.752
ARE AUTHORIZED IN AB ONE FIFTY
02:49:22.819 --> 02:49:24.888
NINE BACK IN -- TWO THOUSAND
02:49:24.954 --> 02:49:25.488
SEVEN THE COSTING IS BASED ON
02:49:25.555 --> 02:49:26.356
THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE APPROVED
02:49:26.422 --> 02:49:27.390
LAST YEAR FOR TWO RIVERSIDE
02:49:27.457 --> 02:49:27.690
JUDGESHIPS.
02:49:27.757 --> 02:49:28.691
AND THIS CONTINUES THE PROCESS
02:49:28.758 --> 02:49:30.560
THAT WAS APPROVED IN -- THE BILL
02:49:30.627 --> 02:49:32.462
AS FAR AS OUR PROCESS TO
02:49:32.529 --> 02:49:33.963
ALLOCATE -- THE JUDICIAL
02:49:34.030 --> 02:49:35.732
RESOURCES -- WE APPRECIATE THE
02:49:35.798 --> 02:49:37.467
SUPPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION ON
02:49:37.534 --> 02:49:38.968
THIS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE
02:49:39.035 --> 02:49:40.436
BRANCH AND LOOK FORWARD TO
02:49:40.503 --> 02:49:41.905
SUPPORT AND WE HAVE STAFF HERE
02:49:41.971 --> 02:49:43.506
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
02:49:43.573 --> 02:49:44.807
TECHNICALITIES OF THE OF THE
02:49:44.874 --> 02:49:46.709
METHODOLOGY.
02:49:46.776 --> 02:49:47.310
AND WE HAVE AGAIN AS HE EVER
02:49:47.377 --> 02:49:49.312
HEARD HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
02:49:49.379 --> 02:49:53.016
BENEFITS OF THE CHOCOLATES IF
02:49:53.082 --> 02:49:53.516
YOU HAVE THOSE TYPES OF
02:49:53.583 --> 02:49:54.150
QUESTIONS.
02:49:54.217 --> 02:49:57.186
GO AHEAD YOU MAY PROCEED.
02:49:57.253 --> 02:49:58.821
OKAY THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AGAIN
02:49:58.888 --> 02:50:00.423
I'M LEO ROSE GOOD WHEN I AM THE
02:50:00.490 --> 02:50:01.891
MANAGER OF THE OFFICE OF COURT
02:50:01.958 --> 02:50:03.893
RESEARCH AND THE OFFICE.
02:50:03.960 --> 02:50:05.128
BY IS IN CHARGE OF THE
02:50:05.194 --> 02:50:06.863
METHODOLOGY TO DETERMINE SHOULD
02:50:06.930 --> 02:50:08.097
SHIP NEEDS.
02:50:08.164 --> 02:50:10.733
AND THE PRIORITIZATION METHOD A
02:50:10.800 --> 02:50:12.735
BY WHICH WE WOULD -- INDICATE
02:50:12.802 --> 02:50:14.337
THE COURTS THAT WOULD QUALIFY
02:50:14.404 --> 02:50:16.573
FOR NEW JUDGESHIPS SO JUST VERY
02:50:16.639 --> 02:50:17.674
BRIEFLY AT THE USUAL NEEDS
02:50:17.740 --> 02:50:19.509
ASSESSMENT IS A RUN A BI
02:50:19.576 --> 02:50:21.177
ANNUALLY AND THE EVEN NUMBERED
02:50:21.244 --> 02:50:22.211
YEARS.
02:50:22.278 --> 02:50:24.147
IT IS BASED ON THREE DIFFERENT
02:50:24.213 --> 02:50:26.416
FACTORS A THREE YEAR AVERAGE OF
02:50:26.482 --> 02:50:28.952
FILENE'S IN CASES OF VARIOUS
02:50:29.018 --> 02:50:29.886
TYPES.
02:50:29.953 --> 02:50:31.421
WORKLOAD STANDARDS THAT MEASURE
02:50:31.487 --> 02:50:33.156
THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT CASES OF
02:50:33.222 --> 02:50:34.691
DIFFERENT TYPES TAKE FOR
02:50:34.757 --> 02:50:36.092
PROCESSING.
02:50:36.159 --> 02:50:38.561
AND A PRIORITIZATION METHOD A TO
02:50:38.628 --> 02:50:42.732
DETERMINE IN WHICH ORDER THE
02:50:42.799 --> 02:50:43.666
JUDGESHIP SHOULD BE ALLOCATED.
02:50:43.733 --> 02:50:44.334
SO WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDST
02:50:44.400 --> 02:50:45.668
OF UPDATING THE WORKLOAD
02:50:45.735 --> 02:50:48.338
STANDARDS -- WE AND THAT IS WHY
02:50:48.404 --> 02:50:48.871
I THINK THAT SOME OF THE
02:50:48.938 --> 02:50:51.474
LANGUAGE A CONCERNING THIS ITEM.
02:50:51.541 --> 02:50:52.575
INDICATES THAT WE WOULD BE
02:50:52.642 --> 02:50:55.645
MAKING ALLOCATIONS IN SEPTEMBER
02:50:55.712 --> 02:50:58.448
ONCE -- AND AFTER -- AFTER THE
02:50:58.514 --> 02:51:01.451
WORKLOAD STANDARDS ARE UPDATED.
02:51:01.517 --> 02:51:03.786
SO IN TERMS OF THE USE OF A
02:51:03.853 --> 02:51:05.521
PRIORITIZATION METHOD THIS IS
02:51:05.588 --> 02:51:07.523
CODIFIED IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE
02:51:07.590 --> 02:51:09.692
AND SIX NINE SIX ONE FOUR AND IT
02:51:09.759 --> 02:51:11.928
REFLECTS COUNCIL PRIORITIES OVER
02:51:11.995 --> 02:51:14.530
THE LAST DECADE -- WHICH INCLUDE
02:51:14.597 --> 02:51:15.932
CONSIDERING COURTS WITH THE
02:51:15.999 --> 02:51:18.301
GREATEST NEED FOR JUDGESHIPS.
02:51:18.368 --> 02:51:20.737
IMPROVING ACCESS TO COURTS A
02:51:20.803 --> 02:51:22.972
SAID THAT THE GREATEST NUMBERS
02:51:23.039 --> 02:51:24.641
OF USERS CAN BENEFIT.
02:51:24.707 --> 02:51:25.775
A KEEPING IN MIND THE
02:51:25.842 --> 02:51:28.277
AVAILABILITY OF COURT FACILITIES
02:51:28.344 --> 02:51:29.812
FOR NEW JUDGESHIPS.
02:51:29.879 --> 02:51:31.581
AND ENSURING THAT SMALL CORDS
02:51:31.648 --> 02:51:34.083
ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE A TO QUALIFY
02:51:34.150 --> 02:51:35.918
FOR JUDGESHIPS.
02:51:35.985 --> 02:51:37.420
SO SPEAKING JUST VERY QUICKLY
02:51:37.487 --> 02:51:38.921
ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION METHOD
02:51:38.988 --> 02:51:40.456
THAT WE USE THE CHALLENGE THAT
02:51:40.523 --> 02:51:41.958
WE FACE HERE IN THE BRANCHES
02:51:42.025 --> 02:51:42.925
PROBABLY.
02:51:42.992 --> 02:51:45.161
A SOMETHING THAT OTHER AGENCIES
02:51:45.228 --> 02:51:47.563
HAVE TO DEAL WITH BUT IT IS A A
02:51:47.630 --> 02:51:49.132
POINT TO FIND THE NEED FOR NEW
02:51:49.198 --> 02:51:50.133
JUDGESHIPS WHEN YOU HAVE COUNTY
02:51:50.199 --> 02:51:52.669
IS A VERY DIFFERENT SIZES.
02:51:52.735 --> 02:51:55.638
SO FOR EXAMPLE IN LOS ANGELES --
02:51:55.705 --> 02:51:57.540
IT WITH THERE ARE OVER FIVE
02:51:57.607 --> 02:51:59.609
HUNDRED JUDGESHIPS I NEED FOR
02:51:59.676 --> 02:52:01.210
LET'S JUST SAY FORTY JUDGES IS
02:52:01.277 --> 02:52:03.413
ABOUT 10% OF THEIR OVERALL BENCH
02:52:03.479 --> 02:52:04.147
SIZE.
02:52:04.213 --> 02:52:06.215
WHERE'S IN A SMALL CORD LAKE
02:52:06.282 --> 02:52:07.717
LASSEN FOR EXAMPLE WHICH IS
02:52:07.784 --> 02:52:09.052
TYPICALLY.
02:52:09.118 --> 02:52:10.687
APPEAR ON THE LIST FOR JUDGESHIP
02:52:10.753 --> 02:52:11.354
NEEDS.
02:52:11.421 --> 02:52:13.122
ARE THEY ONLY NEED ONE JUDGE BUT
02:52:13.189 --> 02:52:15.191
THAT REPRESENTS 30% OF THEIR
02:52:15.258 --> 02:52:15.925
BENCH.
02:52:15.992 --> 02:52:18.161
SO OUR METHODOLOGY ACCOUNTS FOR
02:52:18.227 --> 02:52:20.763
THOSE BIG SIZE DIFFERENCES.
02:52:20.830 --> 02:52:22.565
AND IT BASICALLY USES AB METHOD
02:52:22.632 --> 02:52:23.900
THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO HOW
02:52:23.966 --> 02:52:28.705
CONGRESS A PORTION SEATS -- IT
02:52:28.771 --> 02:52:29.939
USES A SET OF RANKINGS SCORES TO
02:52:30.006 --> 02:52:30.907
HELP.
02:52:30.973 --> 02:52:31.808
NORMALIZE THE NEED FOR
02:52:31.874 --> 02:52:33.476
JUDGESHIPS OF ALL CHORDS AND
02:52:33.543 --> 02:52:34.777
THEN IT GOES THROUGH THREE
02:52:34.844 --> 02:52:36.746
DIFFERENT ITERATIONS TO ACCOUNT
02:52:36.813 --> 02:52:38.915
FOR NUMERIC MEAN PERCENTAGE NEED.
02:52:38.981 --> 02:52:40.783
AND RELATIVE NEED.
02:52:40.850 --> 02:52:42.351
I AND SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON
02:52:42.418 --> 02:52:45.121
THE TECHNICAL PORTIONS OF THE A
02:52:45.188 --> 02:52:46.589
NEEDS ASSESSMENT I'M HAPPY TO
02:52:46.656 --> 02:52:52.662
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:52:52.729 --> 02:52:54.297
BELIAU YOU READ SOME COMMENTS ON
02:52:54.363 --> 02:52:55.498
THIS GO AHEAD.
02:52:55.565 --> 02:52:56.599
I NEED TO LEAVE AT THE
02:52:56.666 --> 02:52:58.434
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE --
02:52:58.501 --> 02:52:59.936
SO WE WE DIDN'T HAVE CONCERNS OF
02:53:00.002 --> 02:53:01.704
THE PROPOSAL BUT WE ONE OF THE
02:53:01.771 --> 02:53:02.638
THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO
02:53:02.705 --> 02:53:05.141
KNOW IS TO THE EXTENT THAT.
02:53:05.208 --> 02:53:07.243
THE LEGISLATURE'S -- DESIRED
02:53:07.310 --> 02:53:10.346
GOAL IS TO EQUALIZE OR TO
02:53:10.413 --> 02:53:12.315
MAXIMIZE THE USE OF JUDICIAL
02:53:12.381 --> 02:53:13.950
RESOURCES ACROSS THE STATE --
02:53:14.016 --> 02:53:16.152
YOU DO HAVE A TABLE ON PAGE
02:53:16.219 --> 02:53:17.487
TWENTY ONE THAT SHOWS THE NEEDED
02:53:17.553 --> 02:53:19.188
THAT'S IDENTIFIED AND THAT'S
02:53:19.255 --> 02:53:20.957
JUST THE POSITIVE -- THE SAME
02:53:21.023 --> 02:53:22.558
STUDY ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE
02:53:22.625 --> 02:53:23.526
SHOWS THAT THEIR NUMBER OF
02:53:23.593 --> 02:53:24.861
COURTS THAT HAVE A SIMILAR
02:53:24.927 --> 02:53:26.362
AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL JUDGES
02:53:26.429 --> 02:53:27.864
BEYOND THEIR WORKLOAD.
02:53:27.930 --> 02:53:28.598
SO ONE THING THAT THE
02:53:28.664 --> 02:53:30.333
LEGISLATURE COULD CONSIDER IS
02:53:30.399 --> 02:53:31.601
THAT IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING
02:53:31.667 --> 02:53:33.136
NEW POSITIONS THEY COULD
02:53:33.202 --> 02:53:35.772
CONSIDER REALLOCATING JUDGESHIPS --
02:53:35.838 --> 02:53:37.573
FROM COURTS THAT HAVE MORE
02:53:37.640 --> 02:53:39.142
JUDGES THAN THEIR SSE TO THOSE
02:53:39.208 --> 02:53:40.643
THAT HAVE LASSEN THAT WOULD KIND
02:53:40.710 --> 02:53:43.913
OF EQUALIZE FASTER THAT'S ONE
02:53:43.980 --> 02:53:48.151
WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
02:53:48.217 --> 02:53:48.885
OKAY.
02:53:48.951 --> 02:53:52.688
CENTER BILL WELD -- I THINK MY
02:53:52.755 --> 02:53:56.459
QUERY I A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST --
02:53:56.526 --> 02:53:58.094
WHAT IS WHAT IS HOW DOES THIS
02:53:58.161 --> 02:54:01.697
AFFECT US SPECIAL CHORDS?
02:54:01.764 --> 02:54:04.167
THAT ARE CREATED -- DO YOU
02:54:04.233 --> 02:54:06.736
ALLOCATE MONEY FOR SPECIAL
02:54:06.803 --> 02:54:08.471
COURTS SEPARATELY.
02:54:08.538 --> 02:54:10.072
YOU KNOW LIKE DRUG CORDS -- YOU
02:54:10.139 --> 02:54:12.074
KNOW.
02:54:12.141 --> 02:54:14.243
THE SPECIAL THE COURTS YOU KNOW
02:54:14.310 --> 02:54:14.744
THE MENTAL HEALTH COURTS
02:54:14.811 --> 02:54:15.511
ETCETERA.
02:54:15.578 --> 02:54:17.079
THEIR LITTLE MORE COSTLY YOU
02:54:17.146 --> 02:54:18.047
KNOW.
02:54:18.114 --> 02:54:22.084
SO -- WHAT IS THE POLICY ON?
02:54:22.151 --> 02:54:23.119
HOW YOU SET UP THOSE KINDS OF
02:54:23.186 --> 02:54:24.854
PORTS?
02:54:24.921 --> 02:54:28.591
ROAD TO TO THE WHEN YOU YOU SAID
02:54:28.658 --> 02:54:32.829
EIGHT X. NUMBER OF JUDGES AND
02:54:32.895 --> 02:54:33.963
HELLO WHAT IS THAT MEAN
02:54:34.030 --> 02:54:35.598
REGARDING THOSE COURTS.
02:54:35.665 --> 02:54:37.166
IT CENTER BALLOT I THINK AT THE
02:54:37.233 --> 02:54:37.667
FIRST HEARING HAD THIS
02:54:37.733 --> 02:54:39.068
CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT
02:54:39.135 --> 02:54:41.304
METHODOLOGY AND AT PRESENT THERE
02:54:41.370 --> 02:54:44.640
IS A SPECIFIC ALLOCATION -- IT
02:54:44.707 --> 02:54:47.076
IS -- BASED ON LOCAL PRIORITIES
02:54:47.143 --> 02:54:50.413
pNANCY EVER ARE CAN TALK ABOUT
02:54:50.479 --> 02:54:51.180
WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR LOCAL.
02:54:51.247 --> 02:54:52.348
IT IS AGAIN IT'S A MATTER OF A
02:54:52.415 --> 02:54:54.116
LOCAL NEED NOT EVERY COUNTY IN
02:54:54.183 --> 02:54:55.918
COURT NEEDS THE SAME AND
02:54:55.985 --> 02:54:56.819
COMMUNITY THE SAME TYPE OF
02:54:56.886 --> 02:55:01.357
SERVICE THEY'RE GIVEN MONEY FOR
02:55:01.424 --> 02:55:02.525
EACH [inaudible]
02:55:02.592 --> 02:55:03.893
JUDGE.
02:55:03.960 --> 02:55:04.994
BUT IF THEY WANT TO ESTABLISH
02:55:05.061 --> 02:55:06.395
SOME SEPARATE SPECIALLY TOWARDS.
02:55:06.462 --> 02:55:08.130
DO THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW
02:55:08.197 --> 02:55:09.899
TO PAY FOR IT SOME OTHER WAY OR
02:55:09.966 --> 02:55:10.900
OTHER THERE'S OFTENTIMES IT
02:55:10.967 --> 02:55:13.603
COSTS MORE RIGHT IT DOES AND IN
02:55:13.669 --> 02:55:15.838
IN THIS INSTANCE ARE THEY PAY
02:55:15.905 --> 02:55:16.505
FOR THE THERE ARE OTHER.
02:55:16.572 --> 02:55:17.640
THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THEY
02:55:17.707 --> 02:55:18.941
HAVE USED THEIR RESOURCES
02:55:19.008 --> 02:55:20.910
HISTORICAL RESOURCES AND PRIOR
02:55:20.977 --> 02:55:22.979
INVESTMENTS LOCALLY TO SUPPORT
02:55:23.045 --> 02:55:25.081
THOSE ARE ARE SO -- STATE FUNDS
02:55:25.147 --> 02:55:26.449
FOR EXAMPLE THEY WERE --
02:55:26.515 --> 02:55:28.618
INNOVATION GRANT FUNDS TWENTY
02:55:28.684 --> 02:55:29.285
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TWELVE
02:55:29.352 --> 02:55:30.920
MILLION OF WHICH WAS EARMARKED
02:55:30.987 --> 02:55:32.688
SPECIFICALLY -- FOR
02:55:32.755 --> 02:55:34.190
COLLABORATIVE COURTS AND THERE
02:55:34.257 --> 02:55:35.925
ARE TIMES SOME GRANTS EITHER
02:55:35.992 --> 02:55:38.060
LOCAL OR EVEN FROM SAY EXAMPLE
02:55:38.127 --> 02:55:38.661
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
02:55:38.728 --> 02:55:40.563
RELOCATION TO ASSIST IN --
02:55:40.630 --> 02:55:42.064
ADDRESSING RECIDIVISM SO IT'S A
02:55:42.131 --> 02:55:44.166
COMBINATION OF FUNDS -- THAT
02:55:44.233 --> 02:55:50.172
MAKE -- COURTS HAVE THAT THAT
02:55:50.239 --> 02:55:51.741
FUNDING AVAILABLE.
02:55:51.807 --> 02:55:53.409
AND IF IN IN NANCY LIKE TO DRESS
02:55:53.476 --> 02:55:54.510
HOW THEY DEAL WITH IT AND SAN
02:55:54.577 --> 02:55:55.578
BERNARDINO AND MADAM CHAIR
02:55:55.645 --> 02:55:56.345
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE -- THE
02:55:56.412 --> 02:55:57.413
ALLOCATION COMES TO THE COURT
02:55:57.480 --> 02:55:58.481
AND IN ONE LUMP SUM AND THEN
02:55:58.547 --> 02:55:59.849
IT'S A A LOCAL COURT PRIORITIES
02:55:59.916 --> 02:56:00.816
THAT AND SAID HOW WE WANT TO SET
02:56:00.883 --> 02:56:01.417
UP CALENDARS.
02:56:01.484 --> 02:56:03.753
SO THE THE PRICE IS THE SAME NO
02:56:03.819 --> 02:56:05.121
MATTER WHAT TYPE OF COURT ROOM
02:56:05.187 --> 02:56:07.323
YOU SET UP -- WE DO RECEIVE SOME
02:56:07.390 --> 02:56:08.891
GRANTS LET'S SAVE A SUBSTANCE
02:56:08.958 --> 02:56:10.860
ABUSE GRANTS WE CAN SOMETIMES
02:56:10.927 --> 02:56:12.328
RECEIVE NATIONAL GRANTS FOR SOME
02:56:12.395 --> 02:56:14.196
OF THE COLLABORATIVE COURTS MOST
02:56:14.263 --> 02:56:15.698
OF THOSE ARE PASS THROUGHS --
02:56:15.765 --> 02:56:18.434
THROUGH FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES --
02:56:18.501 --> 02:56:20.369
SO THE COST OF A COURT ROOM IS
02:56:20.436 --> 02:56:21.404
GOING TO BE THE SAME WHETHER
02:56:21.470 --> 02:56:25.541
IT'S A SPECIALTY COURT OR LET'S
02:56:25.608 --> 02:56:27.443
SAY A GENERAL CIVIL COURT ROOM.
02:56:27.510 --> 02:56:29.845
ARE ARE YOU -- INCLUDING IN THIS
02:56:29.912 --> 02:56:32.281
THE COSTS OF LEGISLATION THAT WE
02:56:32.348 --> 02:56:35.384
PASSED OVER THE LAST YEAR.
02:56:35.451 --> 02:56:36.886
THE AFFECTS THE COURTS LAKE --
02:56:36.953 --> 02:56:40.990
YOU KNOW THE THE DIVERT TRUCK
02:56:41.057 --> 02:56:43.993
CORD DIVERSION TITUS PROGRAMS OF
02:56:44.060 --> 02:56:44.560
THOSE KID OF THINGS.
02:56:44.627 --> 02:56:46.295
HOW DOES HOW DOES THE BUDGET
02:56:46.362 --> 02:56:48.030
REQUEST FOR THE JUDGES FOR IS
02:56:48.097 --> 02:56:48.831
AFFECTED THE BILL OF THE
02:56:48.898 --> 02:56:50.466
EFFECTIVELY THE FACTOR WE ARE
02:56:50.533 --> 02:56:52.068
REQUESTING A PORTION OF WHAT IT
02:56:52.134 --> 02:56:53.235
IS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS IN
02:56:53.302 --> 02:56:53.970
NEED?
02:56:54.036 --> 02:56:55.371
AND I CAN THAT TURNED OVERLY --
02:56:55.438 --> 02:56:56.906
TO DESCRIBE WHAT PROCESS WE'RE
02:56:56.973 --> 02:56:58.174
GOING INTO NOW WE ARE IN THE
02:56:58.240 --> 02:57:00.343
MIDDLE OF UPDATING EXACTLY WHAT
02:57:00.409 --> 02:57:03.145
YOU JUST DESCRIBED IN TERMS OF
02:57:03.212 --> 02:57:04.914
FIFTEEN ALL OF THOSE THOSE -- SO
02:57:04.981 --> 02:57:05.681
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
02:57:05.748 --> 02:57:07.717
JUDICIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS IN
02:57:07.783 --> 02:57:09.385
THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED.
02:57:09.452 --> 02:57:10.720
UPDATED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER
02:57:10.786 --> 02:57:12.088
TO REFLECT THE NEW WORKLOAD
02:57:12.154 --> 02:57:13.522
THAT'S OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST
02:57:13.589 --> 02:57:15.358
TIME WE DID THE UPDATE THOSE ARE
02:57:15.424 --> 02:57:16.826
IMPORTANT TO ME AND THE INFORMED
02:57:16.892 --> 02:57:18.227
ABOUT THAT ABSOLUTELY YOU YOU'LL
02:57:18.294 --> 02:57:25.234
RECEIVE THAT REPORT -- AS A
02:57:25.301 --> 02:57:28.037
LEGISLATIVE REPORT THANK YOU SIR.
02:57:28.104 --> 02:57:29.338
CENTER MOORLACH THANK YOU MADAM
02:57:29.405 --> 02:57:30.706
CHAIR I'M JUST CURIOUS.
02:57:30.773 --> 02:57:32.675
THIS IS FIFTY NEW POSITIONS AND
02:57:32.742 --> 02:57:33.542
ARE THOSE FULLY FUNDED.
02:57:33.609 --> 02:57:34.777
THERE ARE TWENTY FIVE NEW
02:57:34.844 --> 02:57:35.644
JUDGESHIPS.
02:57:35.711 --> 02:57:36.612
SENATOR.
02:57:36.679 --> 02:57:39.415
I'M SORRY I HAD TO FIFTY IN MY
02:57:39.482 --> 02:57:39.615
HEAD.
02:57:39.682 --> 02:57:41.484
THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY FIFTY
02:57:41.550 --> 02:57:43.285
AUTHORIZED IN STATUTES TO WERE
02:57:43.352 --> 02:57:45.121
RECENTLY APPROVED IN THE IN THE
02:57:45.187 --> 02:57:46.522
PRIOR BUDGET TO GET US.
02:57:46.589 --> 02:57:47.757
TO THE FORTY EIGHT OF THE MOST
02:57:47.823 --> 02:57:49.692
RECENTLY AUTHORIZED THIS WOULD
02:57:49.759 --> 02:57:51.193
BE TWENTY FIVE OF THOSE --
02:57:51.260 --> 02:57:52.995
REMAINING FORTY EIGHT FROM THE
02:57:53.062 --> 02:57:54.797
SECOND GROUP OF FIFTY THAT WERE
02:57:54.864 --> 02:57:58.667
AUTHORIZED IN THE JONES BILL IN.
02:57:58.734 --> 02:57:59.635
TWO THOUSAND SIX AND SO THIS THE
02:57:59.702 --> 02:58:01.570
STAFFING COMPLEMENT THE THE THE
02:58:01.637 --> 02:58:02.838
FUNDING IS THERE THERE'S A
02:58:02.905 --> 02:58:04.173
COMPLIMENT FOR INTERPRETERS AND
02:58:04.240 --> 02:58:04.874
THEN THERE'S THE JUDICIAL
02:58:04.940 --> 02:58:06.409
COMPENSATION THAT'S INCLUDED AND
02:58:06.475 --> 02:58:07.343
AND THE FUNDING.
02:58:07.410 --> 02:58:09.045
ROOMS LAST TIME MORE JUDGES WERE
02:58:09.111 --> 02:58:11.647
APPROVED LAST YEAR TO JUDGES FOR
02:58:11.714 --> 02:58:15.184
RIVERSIDE WERE PROVED AT ONE
02:58:15.251 --> 02:58:16.185
POINT.
02:58:16.252 --> 02:58:17.386
NO THAT WAS AN ACTION BY THE
02:58:17.453 --> 02:58:19.622
LEGISLATURE -- TO DO THAT
02:58:19.688 --> 02:58:19.922
[inaudible]
02:58:19.989 --> 02:58:21.457
THE BUDGET.
02:58:21.524 --> 02:58:24.427
OKAY NO I'M JUST TRYING.
02:58:24.493 --> 02:58:25.327
TO NUMBER AND ASKED BASIC
02:58:25.394 --> 02:58:26.996
QUESTIONS AT THE TIME AND THE
02:58:27.063 --> 02:58:28.297
TIME BEFORE THAT IN TERMS OF
02:58:28.364 --> 02:58:29.899
AUTHORIZED FUNDED JUDGESHIPS WAS
02:58:29.965 --> 02:58:34.970
WITH SB FIFTY SIX IN.
02:58:35.037 --> 02:58:35.504
TWO THOUSAND SIX THAT'S IT
02:58:35.571 --> 02:58:35.871
THAT'S IT YEAH.
02:58:35.938 --> 02:58:37.239
SO WHAT'S THE OVERALL PLAN
02:58:37.306 --> 02:58:39.008
BECAUSE RIVER OBVIOUSLY SHORT
02:58:39.075 --> 02:58:40.376
RATE IN IN IN AND YOU'RE JUST
02:58:40.443 --> 02:58:42.678
GIVING ME SEVENTEEN COUNTIES OUT
02:58:42.745 --> 02:58:44.113
OF FIFTY EIGHT SO.
02:58:44.180 --> 02:58:45.414
WELL NOT ALL COURTS HAVE NOT ALL
02:58:45.481 --> 02:58:47.083
COUNTIES HAVE NEEDS THESE F THE
02:58:47.149 --> 02:58:48.517
COURTS THAT ARE AT THIS POINT
02:58:48.584 --> 02:58:50.886
HAVE JUDICIAL NEEDS THE PLAN IS
02:58:50.953 --> 02:58:52.388
THAT WE GET THESE FIRST.
02:58:52.455 --> 02:58:53.322
TWENTY FIVE APPROVED AND THEN
02:58:53.389 --> 02:58:54.723
WE'LL WE'LL MOVE THERE WITH THE
02:58:54.790 --> 02:58:56.025
THE ADMINISTRATION A LEGISLATURE
02:58:56.092 --> 02:58:57.893
IN TERMS OF FOR FILL IN THE THE
02:58:57.960 --> 02:58:59.528
THE REMAINING NEED WE ARE IN THE
02:58:59.595 --> 02:59:00.696
MIDDLE AS I SAID AGAIN THE
02:59:00.763 --> 02:59:02.431
UPDATING THE JUDICIAL NEED AND
02:59:02.498 --> 02:59:03.799
WHAT COUNTIES WOULD BE.
02:59:03.866 --> 02:59:05.167
OF NEED AND SO THIS IS A THINKER
02:59:05.234 --> 02:59:07.002
A GREAT AND ACTUAL INVESTMENT IN
02:59:07.069 --> 02:59:08.571
THAT -- GRADING KNOWLEDGE WEN
02:59:08.637 --> 02:59:10.439
IN THE THE LARGEST INCREASES
02:59:10.506 --> 02:59:13.242
SINCE THE FIFTY THAT OCCURRED IN
02:59:13.309 --> 02:59:14.877
A YOU KNOW OVER A DECADE AGO.
02:59:14.944 --> 02:59:16.412
WOULD YOU BE ASKING FOR MORE WE
02:59:16.479 --> 02:59:18.781
ARE WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE
02:59:18.848 --> 02:59:19.215
TWENTY FIVE THAT THE
02:59:19.281 --> 02:59:23.352
ADMINISTRATION HAS INCLUDED.
02:59:23.419 --> 02:59:25.788
WE WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
02:59:25.855 --> 02:59:26.922
SERVICE YOU HAVE GOVERNOR THAT
02:59:26.989 --> 02:59:27.790
HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE YOU SOME
02:59:27.857 --> 02:59:29.558
JUDGES INDEED [inaudible]
02:59:29.625 --> 02:59:31.427
OKAY.
02:59:31.494 --> 02:59:32.261
THANK YOU.
02:59:32.328 --> 02:59:32.895
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
02:59:32.962 --> 02:59:37.433
CERTAINLY UPDATED [inaudible]
02:59:37.500 --> 02:59:40.202
YEAH.
02:59:40.269 --> 02:59:42.304
WE DID AUTHORIZE COURSE I WAS IN
02:59:42.371 --> 02:59:43.606
LEGISLATURE THEN BUT HOPE WE
02:59:43.672 --> 02:59:45.541
WERE VERY COGNIZANT THAT WE
02:59:45.608 --> 02:59:46.575
NEEDED AT LEAST FIFTY MORE
02:59:46.642 --> 02:59:50.613
JUDGES BACK IN TWO THOUSAND AND
02:59:50.679 --> 02:59:52.281
SIX WE'VE ONLY ADDED
02:59:52.348 --> 02:59:53.015
TO SO NOW WE HAVE THE
02:59:53.082 --> 02:59:55.251
POSSIBILITY TO ADD.
02:59:55.317 --> 02:59:59.421
TWENTY FIVE BUT THE V. M..
02:59:59.488 --> 03:00:01.123
ASSESSMENT OF WHERE THEY WOULD
03:00:01.190 --> 03:00:04.260
BE PUT IS STILL.
03:00:04.326 --> 03:00:06.462
WHEN -- THE STAFF JUST REFERENCE
03:00:06.529 --> 03:00:08.264
THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS UPDATE
03:00:08.330 --> 03:00:10.132
THAT THEY WILL BE FINISHED TILL
03:00:10.199 --> 03:00:11.000
SUMMER.
03:00:11.066 --> 03:00:13.435
WERE WERE SCHEDULED TO ADOPT THE
03:00:13.502 --> 03:00:15.271
BUDGET BEFORE.
03:00:15.337 --> 03:00:18.240
WE GET THAT -- SO I'M GONNA HOLD
03:00:18.307 --> 03:00:19.575
OPEN RIGHT NOW.
03:00:19.642 --> 03:00:21.911
WE MAY CLOSE AND ACT ON IT FOR
03:00:21.977 --> 03:00:23.746
THE JUNE FIFTEENTH OR WE MAY IN
03:00:23.812 --> 03:00:25.981
DISCUSSIONS FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO
03:00:26.048 --> 03:00:27.583
HAVE THAT UPDATED BECAUSE
03:00:27.650 --> 03:00:29.051
THERE'S ALWAYS ABILITY TO DO
03:00:29.118 --> 03:00:29.919
BUDGET ACTIONS [inaudible]
03:00:29.985 --> 03:00:31.020
I'M [inaudible]
03:00:31.086 --> 03:00:33.055
IN.
03:00:33.122 --> 03:00:34.290
AUGUST SEPTEMBER.
03:00:34.356 --> 03:00:36.325
I AM NOT NECESSARILY ADVOCATING
03:00:36.392 --> 03:00:38.294
WE DO THAT IN THIS CASE BECAUSE
03:00:38.360 --> 03:00:41.263
CLEARLY THE NEED IS OBVIOUSLY
03:00:41.330 --> 03:00:41.897
THERE.
03:00:41.964 --> 03:00:43.866
IT'S MORE THAT -- SINCE THIS
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UPDATE IS GOING TO BE FINISHED
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SOON THERE MIGHT BE THERE MAY BE.
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A COMPELLING REASON SO WE'LL
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FIND OUT WE HAVE SOME MORE TALKS
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WITH STAFF.
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SENATOR MORE LIKE AS A TEMP
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GOING FROM MEMORY THERE THE ROTH
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BILL I THOUGHT WE VOTED FOR THAT
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IT WAS AND VETO THEN BY GOVERNOR
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BROWN.
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I THINK ONCE THE BUDGET ACTION
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WAS TAKEN.
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ONCE THE BUDGET ACTION WAS TAKEN
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I THINK THE BILL WAS.
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JUST TELL TALK.
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THANK YOU FOR REFRESHING MY
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MEMORY.
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RIGHT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
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CONCERNS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
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VETERAN MEMBERS MIKE BELOW FOR
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THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES
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ASSOCIATION THE CALIFORNIA
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DEFENSE COUNSEL AND NANCY TRAVEL
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OUT ALSO ASKED ME TO SPEAK -- IN
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THIS CASE FOR THE CONSUMER
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ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA I DON'T
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HAVE A LOT TO ADD WE ARE TALKING
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ABOUT THE FIRST MEASURABLE
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INCREASE IN A DOZEN YEARS.
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MUCH HAS CHANGED IN THE COURT
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SYSTEM OVER THAT TIME ON THE
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CIVIL SIDE BECAUSE OF THE
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PRIORITY OF CRIMINAL CASES CIVIL
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CASES HAD TO TAKE.
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A LOWER PRIORITY SO WE HAD
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TROUBLE GETTING CIVIL CASES
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THROUGH THE SYSTEM BUT MUCH HAS
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CHANGED IN FAMILY LAW
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UNREPRESENTED LITIGANTS A GREAT
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MANY STRUCTURAL CHANGES HAVE
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OCCURRED IN THE COURTS.
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WE THINK THIS IS LONG OVERDUE
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WERE STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
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GOVERNOR'S ACTION AND ASK FOR
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YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL THANK YOU.
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GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
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MEMBERS ELIZABETH ESPINOSA TODAY
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ON BEHALF OF THE RIVERSIDE
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COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS I
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ALSO HAVE THE PROXY OF THE SAN
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BERNARDINO COUNTY BOARD OF
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SUPERVISORS.
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YOU'RE WELL AWARE THAT OF THE
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NEIGHBORING COUNTIES ARE NECK
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AND NECK FOR THE TOP OF THE LIST
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BOTTOM OF WILLIS DEPENDING ON
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WHICH WAY YOU LOOK AT IT IN IN
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TERMS OF HAVING THE HIGHEST
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DEMONSTRATED NEED.
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IN VERY STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
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VERY MUCH [inaudible]
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THANK YOU.
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ALL RIGHT SEEING NO OTHER
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COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
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WE WILL HAVE A ANOTHER BUDGET
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HEARING ON THURSDAY.
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AND WE'RE HOLDING THIS ONE OPEN.
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BUT I THINK YOU'RE YOU'LL FIND
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THAT THE THE LEGISLATURE IN THIS
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COMMITTEE WELCOMES THE
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ADDITIONAL JUDGES IT'S JUST.
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AT WHAT POINT SO.
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MEANING IF WE WANT TO SEE THE
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UPDATE OR NOT AND WE'LL HAVE
03:03:00.736 --> 03:03:03.439
THAT CONVERSATION -- THANK YOU
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ALL END THIS ADJOURNS ARE SUB
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FIVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE FOR
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TODAY