OUR EXCESS THIS IS
OUR SECOND HEARING OF THIS
EVENING IN OUR THIRD HEARING OF
THE DAY THE VICE CHAIR IS FIRED
UP.
AND I AM A SENIOR VICE CHAIRED
IN BRINGING IT SEES CANDY.
YEAH EXACTLY THANK YOU SO MUCH
GOODBYE SHARE THEIR EGO.
WE WE ARE ASKING IN --
ALL MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO JOIN
US WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT.
THAT WE HAVE SINNER HANNAH BETH
JACKSON WHO BE PRESENTING WE
HAVE ONE BILL TODAY THIS IS
SENATE BILL.
FOUR SIXTY FIVE HOW WE ARE VERY
CLOSE TO ESTABLISH IN A QUORUM
WE HAVE NOW ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
THE SLAIN CHESTER HE COULD
PLEASE DO A ROLE.
REQUIRE HERE WIRE PRESIDENT.
WITH YEAH WITH PRESIDENT BELL.
NOW PRESIDENT AND THIS.
HERTZBERG UP CAMPERS REPRESSIVE
LARA.
WELL PRESENT OR NOT PRESENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH OF A QUORUM IS
BEEN ESTABLISHED WE WELCOME
SENATOR HANNAH BETH JACKSON TO
COMMITTEE SHE'S GOING TO BE
PRESENTED SENATE BILL FOUR SIXTY
FIVE ON A PACE AND WHILE FIRE
SAFETY THE FLOOR SHORES MEDICINE
ORDER.
THIS IS S. B. FOR SIXTY FIVE
THAT WHILE FIRE SAFETY FINANCE
ACT WHICH AUTHORIZES LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS IN HIGH FIRE HAZARD
AREAS. TO EXPAND THEIR PROPERTY
ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY OR PASTE
PROGRAMS TO ALLOW PROPERTY
OWNERS TO FINANCE THE
INSTALLATION OF SPECIFIC WHILE
FIRE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR
THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
AS WE KNOW OVER THE PAST TWO
YEARS WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE
LARGEST MOST DESTRUCTIVE AND
FRANKLY MOST HORRIFYING WILDFIRE
SEASON IN OUR HISTORY.
HALF WAY THROUGH TWENTY EIGHTEEN
IT'S CLEAR THIS YEAR IS GOING TO
SURPASS EVEN LAST YEAR'S
STAGGERING DAMAGE STATISTICS I
THOUGHT THAT WAS.
FRANKLY UNIMAGINABLE MERE MONTHS
AGO LIKE MANY OF YOU I'VE SPENT
THE LAST YEARS SEARCHING FOR
WAYS TO REDUCE THE THREAT OF
WHILE FIRING CALIFORNIA.
AND IS A MEMBER OF THE WILDFIRE
PREPAREDNESS RESPONSE CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE I'VE HEARD EXTENSIVE
TESTIMONY ABOUT DIFFERENT
EFFORTS BEING MADE TO CONFRONT
THIS THREAT.
HOWEVER MOST OF THESE EFFORTS
HAVE FOCUSED ON UPGRADING
UTILITY GRID CHANGING OUR FOREST
MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND
ALTERING OUR LAND USE CHOICES
NEAR WILDLANDS AREAS.
VERY LITTLE ATTENTION HAS BEEN
PAID TO HARDENING OUR EXISTING
HOMES TO MAKE THEM MORE
RESISTANT TO WILDFIRE.
A MEASURE WHICH ALL THE RELEVANT
AGENCIES ACKNOWLEDGE IS ONE OF
THE CRITICAL COMPONENTS IN
TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE
WILDFIRES WE NEED TO DO A BETTER
JOB THINKING ABOUT HOW TO
ADDRESS WHILE FRYERS.
FROM THE HOUSE OUTWARD AND NOT
FOCUS SOLELY ON ISSUES OF FEW
MANAGEMENT AND LAND USE.
I GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF
HERE BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE
PACE PROGRAM.
LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT AND
IT NEEDS TO BE REFORMED TO THIS
BILL IS OF ATTACHED TO A REFORM
BILL THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER AGUIAR-CURRY.
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT THESE
FUNDS ARE OTHERWISE AVAILABLE.
THIS MEASURE WILL ALLOW
HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM TO
FINANCE SOME OF THESE HOME
HARDENING UPGRADES.
AND RIGHT NOW PACE CAN ONLY BE
USED WATER FISH PRODUCT PROJECTS
AND SEISMIC UPGRADES THIS
MEASURE SIMPLY ADDS WILDFIRE
HARDENING UPGRADES TO THE LIST
OF PROJECTS.
ELIGIBLE FOR PACE FINANCING AND
WITH THAT I WILL SIMPLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS IF THEY COME UP
THANK YOU SO MUCH BETTER SENATOR.
MASON GENERAL WE'D LIKE TO BE A
TO CALL ANYONE WHO'S IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL IF YOU COULD PLEASE
ADVANCE AT THIS TIME.
WITH ANYONE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL BECAUSE PLEASE ADVANCE
THOSE IN SUPPORT.
FINAL CALL FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT
NOW WOULD LIKE TO GO TO ASK FOR
THOSE WHO MAY BE OPPOSED TO
PLEASE ADVANCE AT THIS TIME.
YOU KNOW MY GIVE US YOUR FIRST
AND LAST AN ORGANIZATION WHERE
NOW IN THE OPPOSE CATEGORY.
GOOD EVENING SENATOR KERRY
LAYING ON THE OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY TREASURERS
AND TAX COLLECTORS WE FIRST
WANTED KNOWLEDGE WITH THE
SENATORS DURING THIS TIME TO
HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE WE
DON'T BEGRUDGE HER THE EFFORT.
OUR CONCERN HAS BEEN AND
CONTINUES TO BE BUT THERE ARE
NONE OF CONSUMER PROTECTIONS IN
PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO TAKE PIECE
LEANS ON AT THE END OF THE DAY
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THOSE LOANS
ARE SECURED BY YOUR HOME.
NEVER HOME BURNS DOWN I THINK
CAN GIVE YOU ARE FOR PARENTS
PACE LEADERS ARE BACKED BY BONDS
THEY CANNOT COME OFF THE TAX
BILL SO YOU MAY HAVE JUST PUT A
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR SALARY ON
YOUR HOME OR MAYBE A FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLAR ASH RESISTANT.
HER AMBER RESISTANT ROOF.
AND THAT WILL SAY ON THERE FOR
TWENTY YEARS EVEN IF YOUR HOUSE
IS ASH.
WE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO ENSURE
THAT IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE YOU'RE
NOT GUARANTEED THE RIGHT TO
HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE IN
CALIFORNIA.
THROUGH RELIGIOUS CONCERNED
ABOUT THE VERY END RESULT OF
PEOPLE IN HIGH SEVERITY ZONES
PICKING ON HUGE LEANS AND THEN
THE HOME BURNS DOWN AND THEY
DON'T HAVE INSURANCE FOR AND
THAT'S OUR CONCERN IT'S NOT
ABOUT WHAT SENATOR.
AYE JACKSON ATTORNEY DO TO HELP
CONSTITUENTS BUT WE REMAIN
OPPOSED OPPOSE FOR THESE REASONS
ANYTHING GOOD EVENING SIR.
MISTER CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS
MEMBERS CREEK PAGE WITH A
CALIFORNIA LAND TITLE
ASSOCIATION REPRESENT THE TITLE
INSURANCE INDUSTRY IN CALIFORNIA.
I IN ADDITION TO DO TIME DOING
TITLE SEARCH IS AN ISSUE IN THE
PAUL SAYS WE DO A LOT OF S.
CLOSING INVEST CREWS IN
CALIFORNIA.
WERE STILL SING A LOT OF
CONSUMERS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THE
ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF OF PICKING
OUT A PIECE LOAN WHERE THEY
CANNOT.
REFINANCE OR SELL THEIR HOME
WITHOUT.
AND SO WE'RE STILL SEEING A LOT
OF CONSUMERS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT
WHAT THEY'RE GETTING THEMSELVES
INTO.
WELL AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT
LIVE EXPANDING THIS PROGRAM I
THINK THERE'S ALSO REDUNDANCY
BETWEEN THIS.
AND EXISTING PAYS PROGRAM WORK
GROUPS CAN BE REPLACED ALREADY
UNDER PACE --
WINDOWS CAN BE REPLACED ALREADY
UNDERPAID SO THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT REDUNDANCY THAT WE
THINK THAT MAYBE.
IS ALREADY --
ADDRESS FOR THE EXISTING PACE
PROGRAM.
AND I JUST THEM ONE LAST THING I
JUST WHO IS AND IN LOOKING OF
SOLAR MYSELF MY WIFE AND I WERE
LOOKING AT A IRONICALLY ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED
IS THAT THERE IS A YOU KNOW
THERE'S AN ENGINEERING STUDY OUT
THERE THAT SAYS.
IF YOU PUT PIECE IF YOU PUT --
SOLAR ON TOP OF YOUR ROOF IT
ACTUALLY INCREASES THE FIRE
HAZARD OF YOUR HOUSE WERE TRAPS
LEAVES.
AND CAN HAVE A HORIZONTAL
BURNING AND RADIANT HEAT COMES
FROM A SO SOMETIMES YOU'RE MUCH
BETTER OFF PUTTING THE YOUR
SOLAR OFF OF YOUR HOUSE SENATOR
FREESTANDING.
THE JEWISH SINCE WHITE THINK OF
UNTIL WE GET THE SCIENCE OF THE
HARDENING DOWN.
MAYBE IT'S PREMATURE TO ACTUALLY
BE COULD EXPAND PROGRAM.
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH WE
ARE LIKELY TO INVITE THOSE WHO
OPPOSE IN THIS SECTION WE TALKED
A BIT ASKS.
IF YOU PLEASE GIVE US A PERSON
LAST AS WELL AS ORGANIZATION IN
YOUR POSITION WELCOME AND GOOD
EVENING.
GOOD EVENING MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS LEXI HOWARD ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ESCROW
ASSOCIATION AND THE CALIFORNIA
MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE STINKY
SWITCHES HER FOR BEING WITH US
TONIGHT.
WE LIKELY TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSED IF YOU
PLEASE ADVANCE OF THIS TIME.
FINAL CALL FOR THOSE WERE
POSTING AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR
YOUR PATIENCE AS HE WOULD LIKE
TO TO BRING BACK TO COMMITTEE TO
PROCEED WITH ANY QUESTIONS
COMMENTS CONCERNS SENATOR
HERTZBERG.
YOU HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM
WITH THE SPACE PROGRAM AND I IS
THE CHAIR KNOWS WHEN WE WOULD I
WAS CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE
BEFORE.
S. WHOLE DEFINITION OF OF WILD
FIRES SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WHAT
YOU'RE DOING IS IN THE ARGUMENTS
THAT PEOPLE KEEP MAKING THE ó
MY GOD PEOPLE ARE BEING RIPPED
OFF AND PEOPLE ARE CHARGING ALL
THIS STUFF.
AND THEN WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING
IS YOU DON'T YOU EVEN LOSE
ASSIST THIS STUFF DEFINES IT AS
RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL
INDUSTRIAL.
REAL PROPERTY AND THEN SOME
WEBSITE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
FORCED YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT
CONSTITUTES A WILD FIRE SAFETY
IMPROVEMENT COULD THAT B A FIRE
EXTINGUISHER.
YOU'RE GONNA FINANCING YOUR TAX
BILL YOU CAN TAKE AND I HAD WHEN
I WAS A STROLLER VISITS I HAD
THIS WHOLE PROBLEM OF HOW.
TO CREATE FIXTURES STATION THAT
WAS FINANCE CIVIL AND I'M BUT
WORRIES ME IS THAT.
IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE
JUST GOING TO CREATE A MUCH
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS WHOLE
PROBLEM WITH THE PACE PROGRAM IS
CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT
THIS WHOLE.
DEFINITION WHETHER OR NOT YOU
CAN ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING YOU
CAN.
SURE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TURN
UP THESE IMMUNE PROPERTY TAX
BILLS YOU KNOW FORECLOSURES AND
ALL THE STUFF GOING TO BE GONE.
WHO WOULD YOU ARE JUST CURIOUS
WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
WE SURE AUTUMN THIS BILLS
SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT FINANCING
IS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR THOSE
ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED ON CAL
FIRES WEBSITE FOR HOME FIRE
HARDENING.
THINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE
REAL PROPERTY WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT.
A A FIRE EXTINGUISHERS WERE
TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HARD
THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE HOME
SO AND THEY HAVE TO BE BASED
UPON WHAT CAL FIRE.
HAS DETERMINED ARE THE KINDS OF
PREVENTATIVE STEPS THAT CAN BE
TAKEN TO REDUCE OF THE
LIKELIHOOD THAT A FIRE IS GOING
TO USE YOUR HOME IS IT'S FUEL.
AND BURN IT UP COMPLETELY OR IN
AN IDEAL COVER SOMETHING THIS
PATIO COVERS ANALYSIS --
WHICH AGAIN IT'S AN EXISTING
STRUCTURE BUILDING OR HOUSE.
THE LIMB IT LIMITS WILDS OF FIRE
SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ONLY TO
THOSE FIX TO AN EXISTING
STRUCTURE BUILDING OR HOUSE WE
CANNOT BE USED IN ANY WAY TO
REBUILD OR RECONSTRUCT THE HOUSE.
AFTER A FIRE OR TO FINANCE
NONSTRUCTURAL PROJECTS LIKE
FENCES DRIVE VOICE IT'S AFTER.
WELL WHATEVER IT I'M JUST
TELLING YOU THIS IS COMMON
OBVIOUS ISEMERGENCY OBVIOUSLY
TRYING TO DO THIS STUFF BUT I'M
TELLING YOU THAT SAYS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE FORESTRY
AND FIRE PROTECTION IS HAS A
WEBSITE.
WHATEVER THEY PUT ON THEIR
WEBSITE IS DETERMINED TO BE
FINANCE CIVIL I GUARANTEE YOU
THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS
THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE PEOPLE
IN HISTORY WHO ARE HAVE REALLY
SMART IDEAS OF HOW TO DO THE
BEST THINGS TO DO.
DON'T ALWAYS ALIGN THEMSELVES
WITH ANSWERS AND WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN IS THE SAME THING THAT
HAPPENED WITH THE PACE PROGRAM.
THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL THESE
PEOPLE THAT FINANCE ALL THIS
STUFF WHATEVER'S APPROVED BY THE
FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE IT'S
NECESSARY IS GONNA BE MISSING
IT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR TAX
BILL.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE BACK HERE IN
A FEW YEARS HAVE.
I'M NOT VOTE FOR IT BUT I JUST
ISSUE SPOTTING BECAUSE I THINK A
GOOD.
IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL.
SEEN IT NOW ALREADY SINCE SINCE
THE MISTER LEVINE TO THE PACE
BILL NOT THINK MISTER SUBMITTED.
ON MISTER DON'T MUCH ABOUT
MISTER BELL.
I FORGOT IT SANTA CLARA COUNTY
MISTER BELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH SENATORS FOR
WITH A TICKET CENTER MORE LUCK
PLEASE FOR QUESTIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW REQUEST JUST A
COMMENT MAYBE TO FOLLOW UP ON
THE CENTER HERTZBERG A THE
PROPERTIES CLEAN ENERGY --
LIMITING STRATEGY --
I WOULD EQUATE IT TO AN INVASIVE
SPECIES IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER
BEEN LEFT LET.
WHICH ARE NEVER LET PAYS.
COME OVER THE BORDER AND BEEN
INTRODUCED IN THE CALIFORNIA AS
A FINANCING TECHNIQUE I IT IS SO
WRONG -- AND
I DON'T HAVE TIME BUT DO EVEN
JUST PULL UP THE LA TIMES
ARTICLES.
BUT THEY DID SOME GREAT
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM OF THE
LAST YEAR.
AND IT WILL TELL YOU THE HORRORS
OF THIS TECHNIQUE AND I I JUST
THINK.
YOU'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA
REPLACE ONE PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER
AND I'LL BE OPPOSED.
THINK THE CINEMA LOT CONNECTED
TO THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS I'VE SOME QUICK%
COMMENTS AND IN TURN IT OVER TO
US IN OUR JACKSON FROM CLOSE ANY
OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS.
BUT WE HAVE NOT HAND WASHING IT.
WE WERE MUCH LESS INTERNET IS
WHAT I THINK OF IT TO SAY IS
THAT --
FIRST FALL THERE ARE VERY FEW
INDIVIDUALS AS LEGISLATORS AND
AS MUCH FOR FIRE VICTIMS AS
SENATOR JACKSON'S WANTED MUM'S
SICK THINKING PUBLICATION
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT.
IN ADDITION THERE ARE SOME
CONCERNS CANDIDLY ARE ABOUT.
ON THE BILL IN AFFORDABILITY AND
CENTER JACKSON NARROWED HER BILL.
A RECENT ENORMOUS LIMITED
PROPERTIES THAT CAN USE A TOOL
TO EXISTING BUILDINGS NUMBER ONE
NUMBER TWO PROPOSITION IF NOT
ALREADY BEEN DAMAGING WILDFIRES
IN NUMBER.
THREE PROPERTIES IN VERY HIGH --
HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES
JUST PUT A SUNSET WITH THE BILL
TENURES.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME
CONCERNS AND WANTING TO BE TO
DEPLOY THIS I AND AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION AS WELL AS A THANK YOU
SO MUCH SENATOR.
I IN A BE SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY
THE FLOOR SHORTS FOR CLOSE THANK
YOU I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE AN
OBSERVATION --
WHILE I DO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT MY
OUR JOB HERE'S ALSO TO PROTECT
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA THIS
MEASURES NOT JUST FOR MY
CONSTITUENTS IT'S FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS IT'S FOR THE SIX
THOUSAND PEOPLE LOST THEIR HOMES
AND COFFEE PARK.
IS A IN THOSE WHO ACTUALLY
DIDN'T LOSE THEIR HOMES BUT
COULD WITH THE VERY NEXT
WILDFIRE.
THIS IS A STATE WIDE A EFFORT TO
DEAL WITH HARD THING OF OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RIGHT NOW WE
HAVE NO OPTIONS.
FOR PEACE MAY NOT BE A VERY GOOD
PROGRAM AS I MENTIONED I LINE A
LINE THIS BILL WITH A BILL BY A
ASSEMBLYMEMBER AGUIAR-CURRY
WHO'S TRYING TO MAKE SOME
ADJUSTMENTS TO IT WE RECOGNIZE
IT NEEDS WORK.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT EFFORTS BEING MADE TO
REFORM THE PACE PROGRAM THAT
BEING SAID.
SO LONG AS WE HAVE THE PACE
PROGRAM WE'VE NARROWED THIS BILL
SIGNIFICANT WE NEED TO DO MORE
TO HARDEN OUR HOMES THIS IS
GOING TO HELP.
LOW INCOME PEOPLE FOR WHOM OFTEN
THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION THEY
HAVE TO PROTECT THE ONLY ASSET
THAT THEY ON AND WITH THAT I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR I'VE
OF THE COMMISSION OF CENTER
BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE WE HAVE
A VERY PATIENT WOMAN WHO IS ALSO
HERE.
TODAY SHE IS ONE THE MOST
PATIENT THE WORLD AND WE DO
APOLOGIZE WHO SHE'S MARRIED TO
INTERNET IS WONDERFUL WIFE IS
HERE TONIGHT --
SO -- WE'RE
VERY GRATEFUL ON THEIR
ANNIVERSARY SHE STAND UP LET'S
GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE PLEASE
[inaudible]
CHAIRMAN.
LOVE HATE HE'S HERE HAY FEVER
NEVADA VERSE THAT'S TRUE LOVE.
AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
AS WE DID SEND IN THE OWN IN
THIS COMMITTEE THIS THIS IS --
IS.
A WONDERFUL.
MY GOOD TO SEE THERE YOU GO.
S. IS GOING TO BE --
ONE ONE OF HIS LAST COMMITTEE
HEARINGS BEFORE IT BECOMES OUR
NEXT LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN THE
GREEN AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE
GOOD SENATOR UP FROM POINT
KATHLEEN SIMPLY DIFFERENT SO
MUCH.
VERY VERY CRITICAL.
WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU BUDDY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH MISSING JUST ROLL
CALL PLEASE REQUIRE REQUIRE AYE
NGUYEN I'VE LIVED TIME BELLE.
BELLE AYE HERNANDEZ AYE
HERNANDEZ AYE HERTZBERG.
FIRST WORK AYE LARA AYE LORE AYE
MORRELL AYE NO MORE LIKE.
NOTABLE NO.
WRONG THAT.
THAT BILL I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING
LESS THINGS WERE LOCKED CHO
DEBILITATE YOU VERY MUCH MISTER
CHAIRMAN FINANCES BECAUSE OF THE
COULD PLEASE HAVE MAKING
REPORTED