TO
ORDER A LET'S ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
OF PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
[inaudible]
ASSISTANT.
I CAL SCHEME.
HERE [inaudible]
STONE [inaudible]
GAINES [inaudible]
HILL [inaudible]
YOU'RE [inaudible]
LARA [inaudible]
SKINNER [inaudible]
STERN.
OKAY WE HAVE A QUORUM WE HAVE
ONE ITEM UP PURSUANT TO SENATE
RULE TWENTY NINE TEN THIS IS S.
B..
OF FOUR FIFTY TWO BY SENATOR
GLACIER WHICH HAS BEEN
SUBSTANTIALLY AMENDED IS COMING
BACK. FOR TO TO OUR COMMITTEE
FOR HEARING WE EITHER APPROVE IT
OR WE DON'T APPROVE IT THAT'S
THEA.
THE ARE THE RULES [inaudible]
FTC ARE.
SERGEANTS CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE
CALL THE OTHER MEMBERS THAT
THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY.
CENTER GOOD EVENING --
PLEASE PROCEED.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN THANK YOU
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR HEARING
THIS BILL I APPRECIATE YOU
TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT.
EYES MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THE
BOTTLE BILL PROGRAM.
SUFFERED A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK
BEGINNING IN JANUARY OF TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN WHICH LED TO
THE CLOSURE OF NEARLY A THOUSAND
RECYCLING CENTERS --
ROUGHLY 38% OF THE STATEWIDE
TOTAL.
I LEAVING CONSUMERS IN MANY
COMMUNITIES WITHOUT A LOCAL
REDEMPTION.
OPTION.
THERE NOW A HUNDRED AND TWENTY
NINE CALIFORNIA CITIES INTO
ENTIRE COUNTIES WITH NO
OPERATING.
REDEMPTION CENTERS.
AND RECYCLING RATES HAVE DROPPED
FROM A HIGH OF 85% FOUR YEARS
AGO.
THE JUST 75% LAST YEAR. TO
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
THIS BILL OUT IMPLEMENTS THREE
KEY ELEMENTS TO STABILIZE THE
BOTTLE BILL PROGRAM.
I FIRST THE BILL RESTORES
RECYCLING INCENTIVES TO TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN LEVELS.
REFLECTIVE OF COST OF LIVING.
AND REASONABLE FINANCIAL RETURN
ADJUSTMENTS SECOND.
THE BILL FOLK REFOCUS CAO
RECYCLE RESOURCES ON BRINGING
RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES.
HUNDREDS OF UNDER UNDERSERVED
AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.
WHILE PROVIDING LIMITED
TEMPORARY RELIEF TO DEALERS FACE
FOR THE TAKE BACK REQUIREMENTS
AT NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN.
AND LASTLY THE BILL REQUIRE CAL
RECYCLE TO DEVELOP
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
LEGISLATURE BY JANUARY FIRST OF
TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO ENSURE THAT
THE HANDLING FEE CALCULATIONS
ARE ADEQUATE. TO MAINTAIN THE
STATE'S RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE
GOING FORWARD.
ALTOGETHER THESE REFORMS WILL
HELP STABILIZE THE PROGRAM IN
THE SHORT TERM.
WELL CAL RECYCLE DEVELOPS
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LONG TERM
SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROGRAM.
FINALLY IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY
ATTENTION.
I AFTER THE AMENDMENT DEADLINE
THAT THE BILL AS DRAFTED
UNINTENTIONALLY ALLOWS CAL
RECYCLE TO WITHHOLD PAYMENT TO A
CURBSIDE PROGRAM RUN BY A
PRIVATE.
SECTOR SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE
THAT HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER-THE SIGHTING OR OPERATIONS A
CERTIFIED RECYCLING CENTER.
IF THIS BILL PASSES I'VE
COMMITTED TO WORK ON THAT ISSUE
NEXT YEAR WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS.
WITH ME TODAY ARE TWO FOLKS TO
KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN
I DO IN SUPPORT AARON NEO LA ON
BEHALF OF RECYCLERS AND MARK
MURRAY WITH CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN.
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MARK MURRAY
WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP
CALIFORNIANS AGAINST WASTE MORE
FOCUSED ON WHAT I THINK IS THE
KEY PROVISION OF THIS BILL AND
THAT IS TO RETURN RECYCLING
PAYMENT.
BASS REIMBURSEMENT LEVEL FOR THE
ENTIRE RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE
NOT JUST CONVENIENCE SOUNDS NOT
JUST BY BACK RECYCLING CENTERS
BUT CURBSIDE MATERIAL RECOVERY
FACILITY DROP OFF TO RETURN.
THAT REIMBURSEMENT LEVEL TO THE
TWENTY FIFTEEN LEVELS IT WAS
THAT.
DROPPING IN PAYMENTS THAT CAUSED
THE CLOSURE OF RECYCLING CENTERS.
IT IS A IT'S A LOSS OF SIXTEEN
MILLION DOLLARS TO THE
CALIFORNIA RECYCLING
INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE'RE WE'RE
PUTTING THAT LEVEL BACK.
I WANT TO JUST COME TO POINT OUT
THAT.
WE WE ORG YOU CAN HEAR A LOT
ABOUT THE CLOSURE OF RECYCLING
CENTERS AS A DISAFFECTED
CONVENIENCE SOUNDS AND
SUPERMARKETS WHO ARE THE
BACKSTOPS.
BUT THERE WERE MORE CLOSURES
OUTSIDE OF COMPUTERS 36% OF THE
RECYCLING CENTERS OUTSIDE OF
CONVENIENCE OWNS CLOSED. 23% OF
THE RECYCLING CENTERS WITHIN THE
CONVENE SOUND CLOSE HOPE.
IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA HEAR FROM
MAMA POP RECYCLERS BECAUSE THEY
DON'T THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS
HEARING BUT THE PRIMARY FOLKS
THAT HAVE BEEN HURT.
BY THIS DROP IN PAYMENT ON HAVE
BEEN THE OLD LINE RECYCLERS THE
SCRAP RECYCLERS THE FOLKS THAT
ARE IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.
AND THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE
GONNA RECEIVE HE'S PROCESSING
PAYMENTS AND SO IT'S IT'S JUST
VERY IMPORTANT UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
FOCUSED ON CONVENIENCE JONES IN
SUPERMARKETS AND ALL THAT.
BUT THE BROAD.
RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE IN
CALIFORNIA THAT'S BE BEEN HEARD
AND IT'S THE BROAD RECYCLING
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO
BENEFIT FROM THIS FIX.
THIS IS A TEMPORARY FIX IT ONLY.
FIXES THESE PAYMENTS THROUGH
TWENTY TWENTY ONE WE ALL HAVE TO
COME BACK FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE
FIX THAT IS BEEN TALKED ABOUT
THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET.
TO BUT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP
[inaudible]
HE BACKS.
WE HAVE BEEN.
AT THE TABLE FOR MANY YEARS HIGH
[inaudible]
NEXT WITNESS.
UP MISTER TURN MEMBERS ANYMORE
REPRESENTING REPLANT IT
RECYCLING.
I'M REPLANTED IS THE LARGEST OF
THE FIFTY PLUS ARE RECYCLERS
THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR ANALYSIS
AND THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A
LOBBYIST IN SACRAMENTO --
AS YOU KNOW --
WELL AND GOOD ABOUT LOW OVER A
THIRD OF THE STATE'S RECYCLING
INFRASTRUCTURE SHUT DOWN AND
EIGHTEEN MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
AND RECYCLING RATES DROPPED BY
UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS --
IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PROGRAM
AT THE VERY SAME TIME THAT THAT
OCCURRED --
IT.
I KNOW WE OFTEN SAY IN THE
BOTTLE BILL PROGRAM --
THAT LEVERAGE.
AND GET IT IS THE BEST OPTION
FOR GETTING THE PARTIES TO THE
TABLE WE OFTEN HOPE THAT FOLKS
CAN BE ON CAN GATHER IN A ROOM
AND SWEAT IT OUT --
BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS
WHEN WE PULL FOLKS TOGETHER TO
THAT. TO DO THAT IT'S THE SMALL
FOLKS WHO LOSE OUT IT'S THE
SMALL FOLKS WHO FOLD FIRST.
ITHINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR
TODAY I'M NOT GONNA SAY THIS IS
A PERFECT BILL HONESTLY MY
CLIENT.
WAS OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED WHEN
THIS BILL WENT THROUGH ASSEMBLY
NATURAL RESOURCES UNTIL WE GOT
THE CHANGES THAT WE SOUGHT.
THAT MADE IT THIS PROGRAM A
LITTLE TOUGHER ON OUR GROSS HER
PARTNERS --
BUT WE GOT A LOT OF THOSE
CHANGES.
I'M WE HAVE OPPOSED SOME OTHER
SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD HAVE
BENEFITTED US ON FROM A PAYMENT
PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT
IT WAS TOO EASY.
ON OUR GROCER PARTNERS.
AND I AM HERE TO SAY TODAY THAT
WITHOUT THESE PRICE SUPPORTS WE
WON'T BE HERE.
MAYBE RIP REPLANT IT WILL.
BUT THE THE SMALL MOM POPS WILL
NOT BE HERE.
AND TO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTIVE
CONVERSATION EVERYBODY WANTS TO
HAVE ABUT REMAKING THIS PROGRAM
WHICH CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND FOR THAT REASON WE'RE HERE
TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF SB FOUR
FIVE TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JOSH
PAWNEE AND WE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA REFUSE RECYCLING
COUNCIL IN STRONG SUPPORT.
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MARKUP PREY ON BEHALF OF
REPUBLIC ERVICES WE WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR.
AND THE SPONSORS FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR ITS COMMITMENT TO
MAKE THAT TECHNICAL CHANGE OUR
CORRECTION FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND WE URGE DRIVE OUT.
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MARY FIDDLED WITH THE
WORLD COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA AND WE ALSO URGE
YEARS YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
GENEVIEVE AVEDON ON BEHALF OF
SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA AND ALSO
ON BEHALF OF THE SURFRIDER
FOUNDATION HEAL THE BAY AND THE
REST OF THE CLEAN SEIZE FLOPPING
COALITION IN SUPPORT.
SHARON SENATORS ARE MARIN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
KEVIN SHELLEY ON BEHALF OF SAVE
MORE COMPANIES IN SPORT.
JEAN IRVINE REPRESENTING WASTE
MANAGEMENT WE SUPPORT THANK YOU.
YOU CHAIR RUSSELL NO ACT ON
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA FUELS
INCONVENIENCE ALLIANCE IN
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU OKAY LET'S HEAR FROM
OPPOSITION MISTER ANY OPPOSITION
THAT'S HERE TODAY TOO FOR SP.
FOUR FIVE TWO SEEING NO
OPPOSITION --
LET'S BRING BACK TO THE DESK
PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE
AUTHOR.
AS HIS MOTION BY CENTERS SKINNER
I AM I GUESS.
QUESTION I HAVE IS SORT OF
HIGHLIGHTED IN.
INDIA HARM STAFF REPORTERS.
WE HAVE A BROKEN SYSTEM
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WE HAVE [inaudible]
ATTEMPTED THIS CHAIR HAS
ATTEMPTED TO HAVE A
COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION WE HAVE
FAILED THAT THAT WE DON'T.
THIRD DID THAT.
ARE WE WORK AND LIVE CAL RECYCLE
IS IS.
A DYING THE ADEPT AT THOUSAND
SLICES SO.
IF WE APPROVE THIS BILL.
AM WE ARE SOME PEOPLE WOULD
CHARACTERIZES LET SOME OF IT
I'VE --
SUPERMARKET SERVERGUIDE.
RETAILERS OFF THE HOOK FOR A TWO
YEAR PERIOD.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY
THE HUNDRED DOLLAR BOUNTY THE
TAPE OR OR COLLECT THE STAFF
REPORTS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT THE
AMOUNT SOME OF THEM ARE
COLLECTING SOME FROM MARK.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE OUT OF
BUSINESS HOW DOES IT MAKE US
BETTER.
AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE I GET THE
FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE
MODERN POP SAY GOING.
TO BE ABLE TO RECYCLE BUT HOW
DOES IT MAKE THE PROGRAM
HEALTHIER.
MISTER CHAIRMAN FIRST LET ME
THANK YOU OR ALL YOUR WORK THAT
YOU'VE ENGAGED IN OVER THE LAST
TWO YEARS I KNOW THAT.
YOU HAVE A GRAT PASSION FOR
MAKING THIS PROGRAM WORK AND AND
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME
SUPPORT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT
WE WILL HOPE THAT WOULD BE
ALIGNED SO THAT WE COULD NOT.
WE WOULD HAVE A MORE GLOBAL.
BECAUSE PATHWAY TED RESOLVING
THIS IN THE LONG TERM AND I
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT WORK THAT
YOU PUT IN IT IS A DIFFICULT.
PLACE TO BE A MEAN LOOK AT THE
ARGUMENT THAT I THINK I MADE
HERE APPEARS AGO WHEN I WAS HERE
ON A PREVIOUS BILL WAS THAT.
AND WHAT KIND OF IN THIS
SITUATION THROUGH NO FAULT OF
THE RETAILERS IN SOME WAYS AND
IT'S REALLY WAS THE FALLBACK IS
WRITTEN IN THE ORIGINAL BILL
THAT'S CREATED THAT QUANDARY FOR
THEM.
SEE I'D IS TRUE THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO PUT A BANDAID ON THE
PROGRAM.
I THINK THAT BAND AID THAT WAS
ON SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
THAT NOBODY REALLY INTENDED TO
HAVE HAPPENED.
AND IT IS JUST IT IS WHAT IT
WOULD DO IT DID HAPPEN.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE
DOING TODAY IS TRYING --
TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF THEM.
THE ISSUE IT'S ONLY A BAND AID
AND IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY AND YOU
CERTAINLY THINK THAT HELPS THAT
SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE AROUND
US TABLE.
AND THIS AUTHOR TO CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH YOU TO TRY TO BREAK
THROUGH AND FIND THAT LONGER
TERM.
SOLUTION I SEE HOW THE BAND IS
HELPFUL I GUESS I BELIEVE UNLESS
I'M MISREADING THE BILL THAT'S
BEFORE US IS THAT THE DEALERS
HERE WILL BE PERMANENTLY --
LET OFF THE HOOK.
BUT IF I MIGHT BOTTOM MARK
MURRAY.
BUT THE THE BILL DOES TAKE SMALL
DEALERS OFF THE HOOK SO THOSE
THAT DO LESS THAN TWO MILLION
DOLLARS WORTH OF SALES.
AND THOSE THAT HAVE WHOSE
PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT INTERIOR.
SPACE IN THEIR STORE IS FIVE
THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS SO
USER CONVENIENCE STORES THESE
ARE SMALL MOM AND POP GROCERS --
WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF
SUPERMARKET RECYCLING CENTERS
THAT WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO TAKE
CONTAINERS BACK INSIDE THE STORE.
WE ARE TEMPORARILY LETTING FOLKS
OFF THE HOOK WHEN THERE IS A
FULLY OPERATING RECYCLING CENTER
WITHIN ONE MILE.
SO WE'RE TAKING ABOUT FOR THE
LARGER SUPERMARKETS WERE TAKING
ABOUT HALF OF THEM.
OFF THE HOOK.
I DON'T THINK THEY FEEL LIKE
THEY'RE GETTING LET OFF THE HOOK
WITH THE ADDITIONAL --
FIFTEEN HUNDRED STORES GROCERY
STORES THAT ARE STILL GOING TO
HAVE TO EITHER PAY A HUNDRED
DOLLARS OR TAKE.
A TAKEN TATERS BACK INSIDE STORE.
THAT THE AND I I DON'T WANNA
REALLY AYE AYE HAS DID YOU JUST
CALL THIS A BANDAID WE ARE
RETURNING.
PAYMENT LEVEL BACK TO THE LEVELS
THAT ARE NEEDED TO COVER THE
COST RECYCLING THAT'S WHILE THE
RECYCLING CENTERS CLOSED THE
SOLUTION IS TO BRING BACK THE
RECYCLING CENTER.
A SOLUTION IS NOT. TO HAVE YOU
KNOW DO A BETTER JOB OF TAKING
CONTAINERS BACK INSIDE THE STORE
THE SOLUTION IS TO BRING BACK
FULL SERVICE RECYCLING CENTERS
BOTH IN CONVENIENCE JONES.
AND THEN IN THE THE HUNDREDS OF
RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT PART IN A
COMEDIC SONG BUT HAVE NO
RECYCLING CENTER BECAUSE THE
FUNDING WENT AWAY [inaudible]
DEPARTMENT.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
THERE IS SAY I'M.
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
ONE IT'S A CLASS AT THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR
THE HEARING MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS I APPRECIATE ALL THE
WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND I HAVE
A FOUR TO WORKING WITH YOU IN
THE COMING YEARS TO TRY.
TO I IMPROVE THE PROGRAM EVEN
MORE BUT THIS IS A GOOD STEP TO
DEAL WITH OUR PROBLEMS AS WE SO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ALRIGHT THERE'S A MOTION BY
SENATOR SKINNER HARM.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SENATE BILL FOR FIFTY TWO BY
SENATOR GLAZER THE MOTION IS
THAT THE ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE
CONCURRED IN.
BY CASKEY [inaudible]
I CASKEY AYE STONE STONE AYE
GAINES.
GAINES AYE HILL.
HILL AYE LARA.
SKINNER SKINNER AYE STERN AYE
STONE AYE --
THE PHONE COMPANIES HAVE.
THE VOTERS.
SIX ZERO WELL CLOSER ROLL-OFF
FILLS OUT