I WILL BE IN AND OUT TO AS I
THINK MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL
BECAUSE WE'RE ALL IN OTHER
COMMITTEES CHAIRING OTHER
COMMITTEES HAVING BILLS HEARD.
IN THE OTHER HOUSE.
SO -- IT'S
GOING TO BE.
ACQUIRED IN INTERESTING DAY IN
HIS HILL NOTE --
THIS ROOM IS A RATHER SMALL ROOM --
I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD --
THAT IF YOUR BILL IS NOT THE ONE
BEING HEARD IF YOU WOULD.
BE WILLING TO GO OUTSIDE SO THAT
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN INTEREST
IN THAT PARTICULAR BILL BEING
HEARD WILL BE ABLE TO THE EXTENT
POSSIBLE TO SIT IN THIS ROOM SO
THAT THEY CAN.
OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE
DISCUSSION [inaudible]
AND THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL
TO US IF I DON'T KNOW THAT
THAT'S STILL ACCOMMODATE
EVERYBODY BUT IT'S AN ATTEMPT
AND ALSO REQUESTS FROM THE
SERGEANTS FOR THAT THEY CAN MAKE
SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE
OPPORTUNITY --
TO TO PARTICIPATE.
WITH THAT --
BECAUSE I'M GONNA CALL THIS
COMMITTEE TO ORDER AND WE WILL
ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
JACKSON HERE JACKSON HERE MORE
LOOK.
MORE LIKE HERE ANDERSON ANDERSON
HERE HERTZBERG.
HERTZBERG HERE MORNING HERE
MONEY HERE STERN.
CASSIE HERE WHY CASSIE HERE.
QUORUM IS PRESENT.
THE FOLLOWING MEASURES HAVE BEEN
PULLED FROM TODAY'S AGENDA SO IF
YOU'RE HERE ON EITHER FILE ITEM
THIRTY FIVE AB TWENTY THREE
SIXTY EIGHT BY CALDERON THAT HAS
BEEN PULLED.
AND FILE ITEM THIRTY SEVEN AB
TWENTY FOUR EIGHTY THREE FIVE BY
VOEPEL.
BOTH THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN
PULLED.
WE HAVE FOURTEEN ITEMS ON
PROPOSED CONSENT.
FILE ITEM NINE A. B. FIFTEEN
THIRTY ONE BY.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BERMAN WITH
AMENDMENTS FILE ITEM THIRTEEN AB
SEVENTEEN EIGHTY BY MAIENSCHEIN
FILE ITEM SIXTEEN A. B. EIGHTEEN
NINETY SIX CERVANTES.
FILE ITEM NINETEEN A. B.
NINETEEN THIRTY MARK STONE.
FILE IEM TWENTY A. B. NINETEEN
FIFTY SEVEN BERMAN FILE ITEM
TWENTY TWO A. B. TWO THOUSAND
NINE BY MUNCH TRYING.
FILE ITEM TWENTY THREE BABY
TWENTY EIGHTY THREE COOLEY WITH
AMENDMENTS.
FILE ITEM THIRTY ONE AB TWENTY
TWO NINETY FOUR OBERNOLTE.
FILE ITEM THIRTY TWO AB TWENTY
TWO NINETY SIX WALDRON FILE ITEM
FORTY AB TWENTY FIVE FIFTY SEVEN
MAIENSCHEIN.
FILE ITEM FORTY SEVEN AB TWENTY
SEVEN NINETY IRWIN.
FILE ITEM FIFTY SEVEN A. B.
THIRTY ONE SEVENTY SIX WALDRON.
FILE ITEM FIFTY EIGHT A. B.
THIRTY TO TWELVE BY IRWIN.
AND FILE ITEM SIXTY EIGHT TWO
FORTY NINE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
WITH AMENDMENTS MOVED TO CONSENT
CAL MOTION BY SENATOR Y. KOWSKI.
TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON AYE JACKSON AYE AND MORE
LOCK.
MORE LIKE AYE ANDERSON ANDERSON
AYE HERTZBERG.
HERTZBERG AYE MONNING.
MONNING AYE STERN.
WIECKOWSKI.
I WIECKOWSKI AYE.
ALRIGHT THE VOTE IS SIX TWO ZERO
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OFTEN FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS [inaudible]
AND THE TWO THAT WERE POLLED
FILE ITEM THIRTY FIVE AB TWENTY
THREE SIXTY EIGHT AND FILE ITEM
THIRTY SEVEN AB TWENTY FOUR
EIGHTY THREE BY VOEPEL.
THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD IF
ANYONE'S HERE IN THOSE.
BORING CONSENT ITEMS AGAIN --
IF YOU COULD MAKE WAY FOR OUR
FIRST ITEM.
AND LET ME TRY TO SET THE GROUND
RULES FOR TODAY AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER --
THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT
GOING ON AND MANY OF US IN THIS
ROOM HAVE A VARIETY OF OTHER --
RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL SO
WE'RE GONNA WORK UNTIL NOON.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS AND
THEN RECONVENE IN ROOM ONE
TWELFTH.
AND THE FIRST MEASURE THAT WILL
BE HEARD PURSUANT TO SENATE RULE
TWENTY NINE TEN SUBDIVISION BE.
IS FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE A. B.
THREE SEVENTY FIVE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER CHILD.
THE SECOND MEASURE THAT WILL BE
TAKEN UP.
IS FILE ITEM SEVEN A. B. EIGHT
THIRTEEN BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
HOLDEN.
AND FIVE WOULD ALSO --
LIKE TO INDICATE THAT --
FILE ITEM TO A BEAT.
TO SEVENTY SIX BY MEDINA WILL BE
MOVED TO THE AFTERNOON BEFORE --
WE CONCLUDE OUR PROCEEDINGS AND
A TWO O'CLOCK ASSEMBLY MEMBER --
GONZALEZ FLETCHER SPILL WILL BE
HEARD BILLS WILL BE HEARD.
WHICH ARE FILES ITEM.
FILE ITEMS.
ONE AB TWENTY TO THIRTY SEVEN
FILE ITEM THIRTY EIGHT AB.
TWENTY FOUR NINETY SIX FILE ITEM.
FORTY FOUR AB TWENTY SEVEN
THIRTY TWO FILE ITEM FIFTY FIVE
A. B. THIRTY EIGHTY ONE AND
THOSE WILL BE HEARD IN ROOM. ONE
TWELVE SHE'S AGREED SHE'S FIRST
ON THE ORDER BUT HAS AGREED --
TO GIVE UP HER POSITIONS --
SO THAT WE CAN HAVE PRIORITIZE
THESE OTHER TWO MATTERS FIRST --
AND WE WILL ALSO HEAR THE
FOLLOWING ITEMS IN THE AFTERNOON
FILE ITEM.
FIVE AB SEVEN THIRTY FOUR BY --
A BONTA FILE ITEM EIGHT AB NINE
EIGHTY SEVEN COME WITH OR AT
COME LIQUOR DOVE AND FILE ITEM.
THIRTY AB TWENTY TO SIXTY SEVEN
A A BY WOULD THOSE OR SECRET
MEASURES IN THE WHICH WILL ALSO
BE HEARD.
AT THE SAME TIME.
THERE WILL BE A TEST IN FIVE
MINUTES ACKNOWLEDGED AT THAT
WE'VE JUST HEARD --
IF YOU JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE
BEFORE WE START WE WILL BE
STARTING --
WITH -- FILE
ITEM.
THREE A. B. THREE SEVENTY FIVE
SO AGAIN -
THE REST OF THE MEASURES WILL BE
HEARD IN FILE ORDER --
OTHER THAN THAT I PLEDGE WHICH I
JUST MENTIONED BUT GIVE ME JUST
ONE MOMENT PLEASE
ALRIGHT THE
FIRST ITEM UP IF THE THE WAY%
THIS COMMITTEE OPERATES AND MORE
CHAU TODAY THAN.
EVER BEFORE WE'VE GOT FORTY
EIGHT BILLS I THINK NOW THAT WE
HAVE. TO THAT HAVE --
WITHDRAWN FROM THE CALENDAR AND
THE FOURTEEN CONSENT ITEMS WE
STILL HAVE [inaudible] FORTY
EIGHT I BELIEVE IT IS ITEMS --
SO ARE WE WILL --
HAVE THE OF FIRST BILL UP WILL
HAVE A TWO WITNESSES EACH. TWO
MINUTES A PIECE --
AND THEN WE WILL --
HAVE THE OPPOSITION COME UP IN
TWO MINUTES EACH FOR TWO
WITNESSES.
THEN WE WILL HAVE --
LET ME GO BACK. TO THOSE IN
SUPPORT THEY'LL BE TWO WITNESSES
TWO MINUTES EACH.
THEN ALL THOSE TRADITIONALLY WHO
WOULD LIKE TO INDICATE THEIR
SUPPORT FOR THE MEASURE WE'VE
GOT TO WE HAVE --
THE MICROPHONE RIGHT APPEAR WILL
ASK EACH PERSON WHO WANTED TO
ADD ON THEIR SUPPORT TO GIVE
THEIR NAME THEIR AFFILIATION.
ONLY [inaudible]
NO SPEECHES.
AND THEN WE WILL GO THE
OPPOSITION THE OPPOSITION WILL
COME FORWARD TO WITNESSES TWO
MINUTES EACH AND THEN ALL THOSE.
OTHERS WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION
WILL COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE
INDIVIDUALLY GIVE THEIR NAME.
THEIR AFFILIATION AND INDICATE
OF COURSE OUR OPPOSITION.
IF ANYONE SHIP IN A NEUTRAL
POSITION WILL ACCEPT THAT AS
WELL -- BUT
PLEASE --
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A
SMALL ROOM AND WE'VE GOT A LOT A
LARGE AGENDA TO GET THROUGH SO
WITH THAT --
WILL START FUNDS FLOW IS SPECIAL
ORDER WITH THE PRIVACY MEASURE.
GERMAN GOOD MORNING AND IN
ADVANCE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD
WORK ON A VERY VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE SO.
WITH THAT OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
GOOD MORNING --
THANK YOU MADAM OF SHARE AND
SENATORS SO --
TODAY I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF
PRESENTING.
EIGHTY THREE SEVENTY FIVE AB
THREE SEVENTY FIVE FOR THE
CALIFORNIA CONSUMER PRIVACY ACT
AT ITS CORE.
IS A SIMPLE BILL.
JUDAS PRIEST ON THE PRINCIPLE
THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE
RIGHT.
THE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN
PERSONAL DATA.
AND SHOULD NOT BE DISCRIMINATED
NEEDED AGAINST FOR EXERCISING
GOT RIGHT.
IF THE BUSINESS WANTS TO COLLECT
INFORMATION ABOUTYOU WHILE
YOU'RE SURFING THE WEB.
AND THEN USE IT FOR REASONS OF
THEIR OWN LIKE PROVIDING A
SERVICE.
OR SELLING IT THEY SHOULD ASK
YOUR PERMISSION FIRST.
I'VE SAID IT ONCE IN PREVIOUS.
ITERATION OF THIS BILL AND I
WOULD SAY IT AGAIN.
IT IS YOUR DATA HE'LL PRIVACY
WHICH CHOICE.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE
BECAUSE ONLINE BUSINESSES HAVE
THE ABILITY TO KNOW A GRAT DEAL
BOUT A PERSON'S ONLINE
ACTIVITIES.
IN FACT HEARING FIRST HAND HOW
MUCH SOME OF THESE COMPANIES
KNOW ABOUT A PERSON IS WHAT
PROMPTED MR ALISTAIR MCTAGGART.
TO BECOME A PRIVACY ADVOCATE AND
LET HIM AND OTHERS TO PURSUE A
BALLOT INITIATIVE IN THE HOPE OF
CURBING THESE PRIVACY ABUSES.
BY GIVING CONSUMERS MORE CONTROL
OVER THEIR OWN DATA.
AND IS WHAT ULTIMATELY LED TO
THE DRAFTING OF THE SPILL.
BEFORE YOU TODAY.
MR MCTAGGART IS NOT ALONE IN THE
DESIRE FOR CALIFORNIANS TO HAVE
MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR
INFORMATION.
IN FACT A STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE
PEW RESEARCH CENTER AND TWENTY
SIXTEEN FOUND AT SOME 74% OF
PEOPLE SURVEYED SAY IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT THEY BE
IN CONTROL OF WHO CAN GET THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THEM.
AND 65% SAY IT IS A VERY
IMPORTANT TO THEM TO CONTROL
WHAT INFORMATION IS COLLECTED
ABOUT THEM.
THE SAME STUDY FOUND THAT 64% OF
AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT THE
GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO MORE TO
REGULATE WHAT ADVERTISES DO WITH
THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION.
THIS BILL AB THREE SEVEN FIVE
GIVES CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
GREATER RIGHTS TO EXERCISE
CONTROL OVER THEIR PERSONAL
INFORMATION AND PROVIDES
REASONABLE CERTAINTY THAT THERE
ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. TO
PROTECT AGAINST ITS MISUSE LEE
IT GIVES CONSUMERS TO WRITE TO
REQUEST THAT A BUSINESS THIS
CLOSE THE FOLLOWING. ONE THE
TYPE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION
THAT IT COLLECTS OR CELLS ABOUT
THE CONSUMER. TO THE BUSINESS
PURPOSES FOR COLLECTING OR
SELLING THE INFORMATION.
AND THREE THE CATEGORIES SO
IDENTITIES OF THIRD PARTIES WITH
CALM THE INFORMATION IS SHARED
SOLDO DISCLOSED.
IT ALSO GIVES CONSUMERS THE
RIGHT TO REQUESTED A BUSINESS
DELETE ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION
COLLECTED ABOUT THEM.
AND REQUIRES BUSINESSES TO
DIRECT SERVICE PROVIDERS TO DO
THE SAME. THREE SEVENTY FIVE
ALSO ALIGNS ITSELF WITH A
PROPOSED BALLOT INITIATIVE BY.
GIVING CONSUMERS THE RIGHT TO
OPT OUT OF THE SALE OF THEIR
PERSONAL INFORMATION WHILE
REQUIRING AFFIRMATIVE CONSENT TO
SELL THE INFORMATION OF KIDS UP.
TO SIXTEEN THIS IS REFERRED TO
IN THE BILL PASSED THE RIGHT TO
OPT IN.
IT ALSO ENSURES EQUAL RIGHT TO
SERVICE MEANING COMPANIES CANNOT
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST.
PROVIDING SERVICES TO PEOPLE IF
THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR DATA SO.
THE IDEA THAT A PERSON SHOULD
HAVE SOME SAY ABOUT HOW THE
PERSONAL INFORMATION IS
CONSISTENT.
WITH THE RIGHT OF PRIVACY AND
SHRINE IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
AND WE A SORT LEGISLATORS HAVE
THE OBLIGATION TO ENSURE PRIVACY
RIGHTS FOR ONLINE CONSUMERS.
THE AGREEMENT REACHED WITH THE
INITIATIVE PROPONENTS TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH LEGISLATIVE
PROPOSAL.
IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP IN
PROVIDING CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR DATA.
WITH ME TODAY.
ARM I SENATOR BOB HERTZBERG A
JOINT AUTHORED ON THE MEASURE.
OF SENATOR BILL DOT A CO AUTHOR
AND IN SUPPORT HARD MISTER
ALISTAIR MCTAGGART WHO IS TO
COMPETE CAMPAIGN CHAIR WITH
CALIFORNIANS FOR CONSUMER
PRIVACY.
AND FINALLY MISTER BRUCE REED OF
COMMENTS THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF IT MANY
SHORTAGE IF YOU WOULD JUST A
VERY BRIEF STATEMENTS PLACE.
YEAH MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS I
PROUD DO I JOIN WITH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER TED CHAO AND SENATOR BOB
HERTZBERG --
TO CO AUTHOR THIS IS A CRITICAL
PRIVACY AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
BILL.
ARE THE BILL INCLUDES PROVISIONS
FROM THE MEASURE I INTRODUCE S.
B. ELEVEN TWENTY ONE EARLIER
THIS YEAR TO GIVE HER.
CONSUMERS RECOURSE IN THE EVENT
OF FUTURE BREACHES PROVIDING A
STRONG INCENTIVES FOR FIRMS TO
ACT RESPONSIBLY.
BIG DATA IS BIG BUSINESS IT'S
TIME THAT WE REGULATED
APPROPRIATELY AND HOLD BAD
ACTORS ACCOUNTABLE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK DR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SENATOR HERTZBERG THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS IN
[inaudible]
NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE JUSTICE
DOUGLAS ENSHRINED IN THE
CONSTITUTION IN GRISWOLD VERSUS
CONNECTICUT THE NOTION FOR THE
FIRST TIME.
OF THIS IDEA OF THE RIGHT OF
PRIVACY IS A CORNERSTONE OF WHO
WE ARE AS AMERICANS WHAT THE
CONSTITUTION MEANS.
CALIFORNIANS IN NINETEEN SEVENTY
TWO EXTENDED THAT RIGHT. TO OUR
OWN CONSTITUTION.
THE INTERNET HAS PROVEN
EXTRAORDINARY CHALLENGES TO ALL
OF US ACROSS THE GLOBE.
WHAT IS PRIVACY MEAN WHAT
ADVERTISERS DO NO LONGER SIR
WALTER CRONKITE DECIDING WHAT
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE?
SIXTY SECONDS IN THE NEED NING
THOSE BUT NOW THE ABILITY WITH
TECHNOLOGY TO DO WHAT THEY DO IS
NOTHING ESS AN EXTRAORDINARY
WITH THIS COMMITTEE HAS DEALT
WITH.
OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS IN
THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR HAS
GRAPPLED WITH WITH RESPECT TO
INTERNET THINGS AND A WHOLE HOST
OF OTHER ISSUES [inaudible]
MR MCTAGGART.
THROUGH HIS OWN LEADERSHIP WOULD
YOU AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT.
HAS BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT ALL
THE GROUPS OF FOLKS TOGETHER
WHICH WE HAVE NOT BEEN BRING
TOGETHER BEFORE BY THE REDUCING
THIS INITIATIVE.
WE HAVE WOULD YOU AGREE OR NOT
CHANGE THE LAW COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO WITH MISTER STEINBERG AND
OTHERS.
SO THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO NEGOTIATE BECAUSE HAD WE NOT
HAD THAT MATTER WHETHER IT IS
GOOD ARE NOW WITH THE WITH THE
LAST MINUTE NOW OR NOT.
THIS IS ABOUT PRIVACY LAW GOING
FORWARD IN CALIFORNIA AND I
WOULD IT VENTURE TO GUESS ACROSS
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE
COMING YEARS.
IT'S A THE QUESTION IS.
WHAT IS THE COMPROMISE THAT MR
MCTAGGART IS WILLING TO AGREE TO
WHICH WILL PULL OFF HIS MEASURE
IF IT PASSES A BY FIVE O'CLOCK
IN THE TWENTY EIGHT SOMETHING
THAT'S GOOD FOR CALIFORNIA THE
ANSWER IS A RESOUNDING YES WERE
TO HEAR FROM THE TESTIMONY?
THE FACEBOOK ISSUE CERTAINLY
RAISE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THE A
ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO CAME A
CATALYTIC UP RATES A LOT OF
QUESTIONS.
AND SO THESE ARE MAJOR
CHALLENGES WHICH INTEREST GROUPS
ON ALL SIDES CONSUMERS LAWYERS.
AND OUR AND COMPANIES ARE REALLY
GRAPPLING WITH IN AN HONEST AND
SINCERE WAY THESE LAST THREE
MONTHS OF TRYING TO HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS OBSERVER THAGARD I
THINK.
HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARY PHD
LESSON IF YOU WILL IN WHAT IS
PRIVACY MEAN WHERE'S IT GOING
WHERE TECHNOLOGY IS GOING SO
WITH THAT.
ALL IN SAYING IS IS THAT THIS IS
BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE YOU'LL
HEAR ALL BUT MORE DETAILS MUCH
BETTER THAN WHAT I THINK.
IS ON THE BALLOT I I DON'T THINK
YOU CAN SAY THAT.
BUT I CAN SAY IT.
AND IT IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD --
A GREAT STEP FORWARD AND AND THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING BUT TWO
POINTS OT AND FINISHING ONE IS
WE HAVE A YEAR TO MAKE
CORRECTIONS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
HAVE COME TO US AND SAID.
THERE'S STILL A MUCH IF I HAVE
HOLES IN THIS THING AND THERE
ARE THERE ALWAYS WILL BE WE HAVE
THAT YOU CAN TALK TO CONSULT
THIS COMMITTEE AND HOW MANY
TIMES THEY HAVE.
NO ASSEMBLY MAY CORRECTIVE
MEASURES THAT IS NOT SOMETHING
ITS NEW THAT'S OUR JOB IN THE
LEGISLATURE PERIOD END OF CASE.
SECONDLY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS
CONCERNED AND RIGHTLY SO THAT
THIS BILL PUTS A GREAT DEAL OF
RESPONSIBILITY ON HIS DEPARTMENT.
AS A DEPARTMENT GOVERNMENT IF
HE'S GOING TO ENFORCE THIS AND
MAKE IT MEANINGFUL HE IS
LEGITIMATELY A RAISE THE ISSUE
THAT MEANS WE ARE AND I'M GOING
TO SUPPORT NEXT YEAR BUDGET
CHANGE PROPOSALS.
THAT GIVE HIM THE RESOURCES TO
MAKE THIS ENFORCEMENT MEANINGFUL
THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS THE
RETRAINING IN THE REFOCUSING OF
THIS DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO
RESPOND TO THE KINDS OF THINGS
THAT WE PUT INTO THIS MEASURE.
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT AND IF WE
ARE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO
GIVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO
ATTORNEY GENERAL WE HAVE TO BACK
UP THAT RESPONSIBILITY WITH REAL
TEETH AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
DO THAT.
AND I WANTED TO TO I TOLD HIM I
WOULD GET HERE TODAY AND SAY
THAT COMMITTEE THAT'S WHAT I'M
DOING.
AND WITH THAT I'D ASK YOUR AYE.
THANK YOU WITNESSES MISTER
MCTAGGART.
WELCOME.
THANK YOU DUG MORE MY NAME IS
ALISTAIR MCTAGGART I'M HERE IS
THE KEY PROPONENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER PRIVACY ACT.
TWENTY EIGHTEEN THE BALLOT
MEASURE WHICH I JUST QUALIFY
YESTERDAY FOR THE NOVEMBER EIGHT
TWENTY EIGHTEEN BALLOT.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT PROCESS --
WE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
LEGISLATURE TO CRAFT A
LEGISLATIVE SOLUTION --
TO ACHIEVE THE SAME GOALS AS THE
INITIATIVE --
AND AVOID A COSTLY DIFFICULT
BELT FIGHT BETWEEN NOW AND
NOVEMBER.
NOW I FIRST MET SENATOR JACKSON
ON A AT A DINNER ON JUNE SECOND.
OF THIS YEAR AND WAS IMMEDIATELY
IMPRESSED.
BY HER COMMITMENT TO PRIVACY.
AND HER GRASP OF THE ISSUES IN
THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TOPIC.
THAT WE STAYED IN TOUCH --
AND I CONTINUE TO BE IMPRESSED.
EMPIRE COMMITMENT TO THE PROCESS.
NOT LEAST BY WILL NEXT BE ON THE
PHONE ELEVEN THIRTY ON SUNDAY
NIGHT.
DRAFTING SOME LAST MINUTE
AMENDMENTS --
THE RESULT OF ALL THIS IS A BILL
I THINK WILL GREATLY ADVANCE.
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS PRIVACY.
IT WILL ALLOW US TO FIND OUT
WHAT GIANT CORPORATIONS KNOW
ABOUT US.
LET US TELL THEM NOT TO SELL OUR
INFORMATION.
I WILL REQUIRE THEM TO KEEP IT
SAFE.
FOR IN ADDITION TO SENATOR
JACKSON I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF
SOMETHING THAT FOR CHAO.
SENATOR HERTZBERG SENATOR DODD
WITHOUT WHOM THIS BILL WOULD NOT
HAVE BECOME REALITY --
IF IT DOES BECOME REALITY BY
THURSDAY UP.
THE WORDS PUBLIC SERVANT ARE
BANDIED ABOUT WITH CYNICISM
NOWADAYS FAT BUT IN MY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE THE MEMBERS I'VE MET
ON THIS JOURNEY.
COULD NOT BE MORE APTLY
DESCRIBED THINKING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH O. WANNA DO
ANY OTHER WITNESS.
ONCE A STEP FORWARD IN SUPPORT
OF THE I'M BRUCE REED SENIOR
ADVISER AT COMIC SENSE TO HAVE
AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL
TO THE CHAIR FOR HER.
LONGSTANDING UNPARALLELED
LEADERSHIP ON THE FUND PRIVACY
ISSUES WE WOULDN'T BE HERE
WITHOUT YOU.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT AB --
THREE SEVENTY FIVE IN IN.
A PARTICULAR FOR ITS STRONG
PROTECTIONS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE
IT'S ACTUALLY VITAL THAT KIDS
PRIVACY BE PROTECTED IN THIS RA.
THAT TODAY'S YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
THE MOST TRACKED GENERATION IN
HISTORY.
THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION
ACTIVITIES AND NETWORKS ARE.
ARE EXPOSED AND OFTEN FOR SALE --
FROM BIRTH AYE THIS BILL WILL
MAKE CALIFORNIA THE FIRST.
STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO GIVE
CONSUMERS AND YOUNG PEOPLE
ONLINE CONTROL OVER THEIR
PRIVACY --
KIDS UNDER SIXTEEN AND PARENTS
OR GUARDIANS OF KIDS UNDER
THIRTEEN WELL HAVE HAVE TO OPT
IN TO HAVE THEIR PERSONAL
INFORMATION SOLD BY.
COMPANIES.
WE BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THE
MOST TRACT MOST EXPOSED
GENERATION IN HISTORY DESERVES
THESE HISTORIC PROTECTIONS.
CALIFORNIA IS THE STATE THAT
PIONEERED THE TECH REVOLUTION
AYE IT SHOULD BE THE PIONEERING
CONSUMER PRIVACY SAFEGUARDS --
AS WELL AND IF CALIFORNIA LEADS
THE WAY BY ENACTING THE STRONG
PRO KID PRIVACY PROTECTIONS.
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS SURE
TO FOLLOW WE URGE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE IN THE LEGISLATURE TO
PASS THIS LANDMARK LEGISLATION
THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR
THIS POINT IN TIME WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT IF YOU LINE UP --
AT THE MICROPHONE IT TO GIVE
YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION.
SO REGARDING CO AUTHOR THE
CALIFORNIA PRIVACY PROTECTION
ACT [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
COMMITTEE BLOOD CONSUMER DURING
THE CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
WHAT THE COURT AND ON BEHALF OF
PRIVACY RIGHTS CLEARING HOUSE
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT?
ELIZABETH COOEY CA ON BEHALF OF
THE CENTER FOR HUMANE TECHNOLOGY
IN SUPPORT [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
ANY ANYONE ELSE --
WHEELS SAVE A MOMENT IF I
BELIEVE THERE'S A TV SERVE THEIR
PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE WANT TO COME
IN WILL WAITED COUPLE SECONDS I
DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF
MOVEMENT.
AND I KNOW THE REST OF YOU WERE
HERE IN STRONG NEUTRALITY.
ALRIGHT AT THIS POINT TIME LET'S
BRING OUT OF THE OPPOSITION --
TWO WITNESSES PLEASE.
SOME WE GO THROUGH DOESN'T SEEM
TO BE MUCH FOR AN OPTION IN
TERMS OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE.
TO I SAID SO TWO WITNESSES PLACE.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR.IF HE FOR THE CHART LIKE TO
REQUEST FRIEDMAN COLLEAGUE
HAVING LESS THAN ONE MINUTE --
GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THAT BUT
DAMON KEEP YOU TO A CHECK THANK
YOU VERY GOOD.
SERBA TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF
CAL CHAMBER IN OPPOSITION TO AB
THREE SEVENTY FIVE WE APPRECIATE
CENTER HERTZBERG ASSEMBLY MEMBER
CHAO'S EFFORTS TO CRAFT A
COMPROMISE LEGISLATION THAT
WOULD AVERT A SIGNIFICANT BALLOT
BY NOVEMBER.
OVER THE SO CALLED PRIVACY
INITIATIVE HOWEVER THIS PROCESS
HAS LEFT LITTLE ROOM FOR
MEANINGFUL POLICY NEGOTIATION
WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT A
BILL THAT SCANS IMPACT NEARLY
EVERY CALIFORNIA BUSINESS AND
CONSUMER.
SINCE LATE LAST WEEK
NEGOTIATIONS HAVE INTENSIFIED
WITH MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THIS
BILL BEING PRESENTED TO SOME OF
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND WERE NOW FACED WITH A TAKE
IT OR LEAVE IT SCENARIO WHICH IS
VERY PROBLEMATIC GIVEN AT THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY OVERALL.
HAS HAD LITTLE INPUT INTO THESE
NEGOTIATIONS.
EVEN MORE TROUBLESOME THE NEWEST
AMENDMENT EXPANDING LIABILITY IN
WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE DATA
BREACH SECTION OF THIS BILL HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH PRIVACY IT'S
MERELY ANOTHER GIVEAWAY TO TRIAL
LAWYERS IN A BILL THAT IS
ALREADY RIDDLED WITH THEM.
WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH A
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION THIS
BILL AS IT EXPOSES CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES TO MASSIVE DDITIONAL
LIABILITY WITHOUT PROVIDING
CORRESPONDING BENEFIT TO
CONSUMERS.
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE HAS IDENTIFIED SIMILAR
LANGUAGE ANOTHER BILL THIS YEAR
AS A JOB KILLER BECAUSE IT
ALLOWS FOR SIGNIFICANT STATUTORY
DAMAGES WITH NO PROOF OF INJURY
[inaudible]
YEAH.
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS AN
UNTENABLE SITUATION.
ALTHOUGH AB THREE SEVENTY FIVE
IS DEEPLY FLAWED THE PRIVACY
INITIATIVE IS EVEN WORSE
MISTAKES ARE ASTRONOMICAL
BECAUSE IF THE INITIATIVE IS
PASSED IN THE LEGISLATURE WE
VIRTUALLY UNABLE TO AMEND THE
LAW IN THE FUTURE.
SO AT THIS LATE HOUR.
WE PREFER THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS TO THE INITIATIVE
PROCESS WHICH AGAIN LEAVES
LITTLE ROOM TO AMEND A AND RIGHT.
AN AREA REGULATING TECHNOLOGY
THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
AND REMAINS DEDICATED TO
CRAFTING LITTLE POLICY
LEGISLATION WE STRONGLY URGE THE
EGISLATURE TO CONSIDER THE
NUMEROUS PROBLEMS PRESENTED BY
THIS BILL AND CONSIDER SOLUTIONS
TO THEM MOVING FORWARD.
SOME OF THESE INCLUDE ISSUES OF
ENFORCEMENT THAT WILL ONLY BE
COMPOUNDED BY CONFUSING LANGUAGE
IN THE BILL THAT WILL LEAD TO
MORE LITIGATION --
THERE'S ALSO UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES WITH THE LANGUAGE
OF THIS BILL THAT CONSUMERS WILL
NOT BE HAPPY WITH IT COULD
JEOPARDIZE THE ABILITY OF
RETAILERS PROVIDE LOYALTY AND
REWARDS PROGRAMS TO CUSTOMERS.
IT COULD PREVENT COMPANIES FROM
ABLE TO NOTIFY CUSTOMERS OF
RECALLS.
COULD IMPACT THIRD PARTY DATA
SHARING --
FOR FRAUD PREVENTION AND IT AND
SOME OF THE DISCLOSURE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE BILL COULD
BE READ TO REQUIRE COMPANIES TO
PRODUCE INFORMATION ABOUT ONE
CONSUMER TO ANOTHER WHICH IS YOU
KNOW CLOSE AGAINST THE GOALS OF
THIS BILL.
AGAIN THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
PROBLEMS WITH THE BILL THAT WE
HOPE.
THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL
ADDRESS AND CONSIDER BUT FOR
THESE REASONS ALTHOUGH WE ARE
OPPOSED TO THE POLICY OF AB
THREE SEVENTY FIVE WE DO
MAINTAIN A PREFERENCE. FOR THIS
LEGISLATION OVER AT THE BALLOT
INITIATIVE BECAUSE IT IS FAR FAR
WORSE BEGIN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS.
I'M KEVIN MCKINLEY WITH INTERNET
ASSOCIATION THERE'S BEEN A
DIFFICULT PROCESS AND WE HAVE
MANY SUBSTANTIVE POLICY CONCERNS
ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
HOWEVER WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE
LEGISLATORS EFFORTS TO TAKE THIS
IMPORTANT.
COMPLICATED DISCUSSION AWAY FROM
THE BALLOT BOX AND BRING IT TO
THE VENUE THE LEGISLATURE.
AS CAL CHAMBER MENTION DATA
REGULATIONS HIGHLY COMPLEX.
IMPACTS NEARLY EVERY SECTOR OF
THE ECONOMY INCLUDING THE
INTERNET INDUSTRY.
IF THE INITIAL BECAME LAW THE
LEGISLATURE WILL BE VIRTUALLY
UNABLE. TO AMEND ITS PROVISIONS
GOING FORWARD.
A DANGEROUS PROSPECT GIVEN HOW
NIMBLE AND RESPONSIVE THE STATE
MUST BE.
IN ITS POLICIES TO ENSURE WE
REMAIN A GLOBAL LEADER
INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE LEGISLATURE MOVING FOUR TO
ENSURE THE STATE'S TECHNOLOGY
LEADERSHIP REMAINS A REALITY
THANK YOU [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
A ANY OTHER WITNESSES THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
BUT IN CARE VERY BRIEFLY WE'VE
HAD OUR TWO WITNESSES SO JIMMY
FORTY FOR THE CALIFORNIA NEWS
PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATIONS.
WE DO NOT HAVE A POSITION ON THE
LEGISLATION --
BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
IMPACT ON OUR THE NEWSPAPERS
ABILITY TO GATHER INFORMATION
AND TO PUBLISH NEWS.
THE PROVISION THAT ALLOWS A
CONSUMER TO OPT OUT.
WOULD --
BECAUSE IT'S SO BROADLY DEFINED.
PERMIT THE SUBJECT OF AN
INVESTIGATIVE NEWS STORY TO
PREVENT THAT STORY FROM EVER
BEING PUBLISHED.
I WERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE
IMPACT OF THE BILL'S PROVISION --
THAT WOULD --
REQUIRE A NEWSPAPER [inaudible]
SOMERS INFORMATION TO IMPACT THE
REPORTER SHIELD LAW WE'VE SHARED
THESE CONCERNS WITH THE STAFFS
OF THE AUTHORS OFFICE --
BOTH OFF FATHERS OFFICES FARM
AND I I THINK WE CAN WORKING
COULD FACE TOWARD A RESOLUTION
ON THIS WE ALSO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON
NEWSPAPERS.
ADVERTISING AND CIRCULATION
OPERATIONS BUT WE ARE.
STILL DRAFTING OUR OPPOSITION
BASED ON ARE CONTINUED READ OF
THE YEAR LEGISLATION MAY VERY
MUCH ALL SOLELY CONCERNS AND I'M
SURE WILL BE DISCUSSED FURTHER.
AS APPROPRIATE.
MADAM CHAIR OF THE JOHN DORY ON
BEHALF OF THE CIVIL JUSTICE
ASSOCIATION REPOSE IN LESS
AMENDED ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND
THE TIME LIMITS.
CAMPAIGN MANAGEMENT THANK YOU
FOR TAKING.
GOOD MORNING TERRY COMMITTEE
ANDREA DIVO ON BEHALF OF TECHNO
AT ALL JUST ALIGN MYSELF WITH
THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES --
AND STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT WE
DO BELIEVE THAT THE PREFERENCES
FOR THIS POLICY ISSUE TO BE
DEALT WITH AND MODULATION OF
HOSTING THANK YOU I DON'T THINK
THEY'RE TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE WHO
DISAGREE WITH THAT.
NEXT LEX WASN'T PLEASE PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION
HI KELLY HIT WITH COUNTY AT WE
ECHO THE STATEMENTS ACCOUNT
CHAMBER WERE IN OPPOSITION THINK
THEY'LL.
THINK.
ROSS BUCKLEY WITH THE PERSONAL
INSURANCE FEDERATION LIKE THAT
BUT THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS
SPEAKERS AND HOPING THE WORK
COUNTLESS THANK YOU.
COURTNEY JONES ON THE CALIFORNIA
CREDIT UNION LEAGUE WERE AN
OPPOSING LOS MANDATE JUST WANT
TO POINT OUT WE ARE NOT FOR
POFIT AND FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS ARE INSTILLING
CLINTON'S.
THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR AND SENATORS KEVIN
GOLD OF THE CALIFORNIA BANKERS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION FOR
THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY STATED.
AND LOOK FOR TO WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS AS THIS GOES
FORWARD THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS ALL OVER
AWKWARD CALIFORNIA LIFE SCIENCES
SUCH ASIAN OPPOSING MUST AMENDED
WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE
IMPACT OF CLINICAL TRIALS
PARTICULARLY.
ID IDENTIFY PERSONAL INFORMATION
THAT MAY BE DELETED SOME OF WHAT
I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
WE'RE GLAD SHE OUT WE HAVE THE
ALL FORTY RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE BANKING
NETWORK CAP WE TO ALIGN WITH THE
PREVIOUS TEST THEM.
THANK YOU.
JOANNE BETTENCOURT.
SKINNY.
REPRESENTING THE SECURITIES
INDUSTRY AND FINANCIAL MARKETS
ASSOCIATION IN.
OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU.
JOHN SHRIEKING AT THE
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA LIFE AND
HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WERE
OPPOSING US MANY FOR THE REASONS
PREVIOUSLY STATED I THINK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS SHARE-MEMBERS ABOUT THE AMERICAN
INSURANCE ASSOCIATION WE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE --
CHAMBERS COMMENTS ARE POSTED
LEGISLATION THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CAROLYN MCINTYRE
BEHALF FOR THE CALIFORNIA CABLE
AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN OPPOSITION
TO TH BILL THINK THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING DVON ANDERSON ON
BEHALF OF THE RETAIL INDUSTRY
LEADERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION WOULD ALIGN OURSELVES
WITH STATEMENTS MADE BY THE
CHAMBER THINK YOU THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS
PATTERNS A LEAD HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA MORTGAGE
BANKERS ASSOCIATION ALSO IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SHAHAK AND ON BEHALF OF*
COMMUNICATIONS CALIFORNIA ALSO
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
SURE MEMBERS JERRY DOES BENT ON
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION A LICENSED
INVESTIGATORS ALIGNED WITH THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE'S TESTIMONY
I THINK YOU.
BUILDING GRIEVES AT THE ADVANCED
MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
OPPOSITION
THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION LET'S WAIT A SECOND
SUITORS ANYONE OUTSIDE TO MY
PIANO [inaudible]
ALRIGHT.
WELL LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE
DIETS I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS
ONE TO MAKE AND THEN WE'LL OPEN
IT UP TO OTHERS --
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS
ROOM THINKS THAT THIS IS A GOOD
PROCESS.
BUT THERE'S AN INITIATIVE ON THE
BALLOT.
THIS ISN'T THE ONLY.
ONE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
INITIATIVES ON THE BALLOT THAT I
THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE ARE.
NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE
PEOPLE CALIFORNIA.
AND WE ARE THE LEGISLATURE AND
IT IS OUR DUTY AND OUR
RESPONSIBILITY AT LEAST MOST OF
US BELIEVE. TO DO THE POLICY IN
THE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA.
AND HERE WE ARE AT THE LAST
MINUTE THERE'S AN INITIATIVE ON
THE BALLOT --
IT WAS BROUGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY
HAD THE COMMITMENT AND THE
FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO OPEN UP A
DISCUSSION ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE
OF PRIVACY IN THE USE OF
INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET.
THAT WE AS A LEGISLATURE HAD
NEVER QUITE BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS.
AND IT'S A SITUATION THAT IS
ONLY GETTING WORSE.
AND SO SOMEBODY STEPPED FORWARD
AND NOW WE ARE.
IN A HOBSON'S CHOICE.
YOU DO THIS GOES TO THE BALLOT.
AND IS IT A HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS FOR MORE AND TOLD IS
LIKELY TO BE SPENT --
IF THE BILL IS KILLED WE'RE BACK
AT GROUND ZERO AND WE AS A
LEGISLATURE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE
BEEN ABLE --
TO GATHERED THE NECESSARY --
INTEREST OR COMMITMENT TO
DEALING WITH IT --
IF IT SUCCEEDS THE LEGISLATURE'S
BASICALLY KEPT OUT OF THE
PROCESS FOR THE EXT WEEK
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF YEARS SO
WE COULDN'T.
EVEN FIX ARGUABLY THE PROBLEMS
THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED HERE
AND I THINK WE ALL AGREED THAT
THIS ISA DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS
TO BE HAD.
AND AT ELEVEN THIRTY ON SUNDAY
NIGHT AS WAS MENTIONED I WAS ON
THE PHONE I KNOW SENATOR
HERTZBERG WHO DOESN'T SLEEP
ANYWAY.
HAS BEEN UP.
ALL NIGHT AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE
IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN P. HAVE
AND THE AUTHOR.
TO MISS CHAO IS STILL HOLDING
HIMSELF UP BY HIS CHEN --
AND APPRECIATE AND HE SOMEONE
NOT THAT I'VEHAD THE PRIVILEGE
OF WORKING WIT ON THE SUBJECT
BUT WE'VE GOTTEN NOWHERE.
WE ARE SOMEWHERE.
UP MANY OF US AREN'T EXACTLY
QUITE SURE WHERE THAT IS THERE
WAS A CONCERN THAT NON PROFITS
WERE ALSO INCLUDED.
SENATOR HERTZBERG INDICATED THAT
THEY'RE NOT --
AT THIS MOMENT TIME THERE HAS
BEEN SO LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO ALL EVALUATE OR EVEN THE
GOSHI.
THE TERMS OF THIS OF A MEASURE
BUT THAT IS THE LAW AND PERHAPS
WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE INITIATIVE
PROCESS ONCE AGAIN.
BECAUSE T IS PUT EVERYBODY IN
THIS ROOM EVERYBODY IN THE STATE
IN A BARN.
THAT THAT IS JUST THE FACT SO.
THAT BEING SAID THE PROCESS
BEINGS SOMETHING THAT I THINK
HAS US ALL FRUSTRATED HERE --
IF NOT WE'RE NOT PAYING
ATTENTION AND I THINK EVERYBODY
IN THIS ROOM THE ROOM WAS
OVERFLOWING LOT OF PEOPLE NOT
ALWAYS.
BUT YET VERY FEW PEOPLE CAME UP.
TO EXPRESS SUPPORTER OPPOSITION.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK FRANKLY
ANYBODY'S VERY HAPPY WITH THIS --
IT I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT THERE
ARE A MISTER MCTAGGART IS IS
HAPPY WITH THIS AS HE WOULD LIKE
TO BE AND I SUSPECT THAT'S THE
SAME FOR THE AUTHORS AND IT'S
CERTAINLY.
THE SAME FOR ME IS THE CHAIR OF
THIS COMMITTEE.
I HAVE SOME GRAVE GRAVE QUE
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS LEGISLATIVE
BOUT THIS LEGISLATION.
ON THE OTHER HAND IT'S GOING TO
GO A LONG WAY TOWARD PUTTING
CONTROL BACK IN THE HANDS OF
CONSUMERS.
AND WITH THE WIDESPREAD
COLLECTION OF ALL FORMS OF
PERSONAL INFORMATION IT IS A
CRITICAL TIME THAT WE MOVE ON
THIS ISSUE.
WHETHER IT'S FOR OUR YOUNGSTERS
SAYS WAS ACKNOWLEDGED A FIVE
YEAR OLDS --
ANYONE WHO GOES ON THE INTERNET
COULD BE SUBJECT TO INCREDIBLE
VIOLATIONS BOTH OF THEIR SAFETY
IN THEIR PRIVACY.
THE BILL ALSO EMPOWERS EVERY
CONSUMER TO ACCESS WHATEVER DATA
COMPANY HAS ON THE CONSUMER.
IT REQUIRES THE BUSINESSES
COLLECT --
IT WOULD REQUIRE BUSINESSES THAT
COLLECT AND SELL THEIR DATA TO
PROVIDE CERTAIN DISCLOSURES.
SHOULDN'T WE KNOW WHERE OUR
INFORMATION IS GOING.
AND IT WOULD ALLOW CONSUMERS TO
PUT A HALT TO THOSE SALES.
IT PUT SOME VALUE IN OUR PRIVACY
AND I SAY THIS QUITE FREQUENTLY
BECAUSE I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN
THE RIGHT OF PRIVACY.
IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT HERE
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IT IS
NOT IMPLIED IT IS SPECIFICALLY
SAY STATED AS ONE OF OUR
ENUMERATED IN ALIEN A BILL
RIGHTS.
LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY M. PRIVACY
PUT IN THAT CONSTITUTION BUT THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE THAT OUR PRIVACY IS SO
IMPORTANT.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION
ABOUT IT THINK ABOUT WHAT IT
WOULD MEAN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE
PRIVACY.
OUR DEMOCRACY WOULD FAIL.
OUR RIGHTS TO TO FREEDOM OF
THOUGHT AND ACTION WOULD FAIL.
SO THIS IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT --
BUT THE WHOLE ISSUE OF PRIVACY
WHICH IS THE ATTEMPT AYE.
OF OR THE NOTION THAT IT IN IN.
THE DISCUSSIONS AT AND THE
PROPOSED --
AMENDMENTS THAT THAT WE WERE.
REFERENCING AT ELEVEN THIRTY ON
SUNDAY NIGHT OUT DEAL WITH
WHETHER NOT --
WE ARE BY VIRTUE OF THIS BILL
GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR
PRIVACY.
OR WHETHER --
WE WILL BE UP PENALIZED FOR
EXERCISING OUR PRIVACY AND I
DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS BILL
WILL DO THAT BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR.
AND THAT GIVES ME GREAT PAUSE --
AGAIN THE ROLE OF THE ATTORNEY.
I WILL BE CRUCIAL --
OR GIVING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL A
LOT OF A LOT OF POWER IN THIS TO
ATTACKED OUR PRIVACY AND TO
ALLOW THE FUNCTIONING OF
BUSINESS AND WE ALL WANT TO SEE
THAT BALANCE HAPPEN --
BUT HIS ROLE OR HER ROLE IN THE
FUTURE WILL BE CRITICAL --
BECAUSE WE NEED REGULATIONS TO
ENSURE THE INTENT IS FILLED TO
PROVIDE STRON CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS.
IS AFFECTED WAITED AND SO OF THE
BILL DOES A LOT.
OF THE BILL HAS AN ENORMOUS
NUMBER OF PROBLEMS.
THE PROBLEM IS IF THIS
INITIATIVE OR TO PASS WE IN THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD ESSENTIALLY.
BE HELPLESS TO DO ANYTHING.
AND WITH THAT I WILL OPEN THE
CONVERSATION FOR OTHERS WHO.
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WILL START
WITH A SENATOR HERTZBERG AND
THEN GO TO SENATOR WIECKOWSKI.
ONE WHO WERE REPORTED
INTERESTING HISTORICAL FACT
BECAUSE IN NINETEEN SEVENTY TWO
THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO
PRIVACY TO SO MUCH WE REFERRED
TO BOTH BY THE CHAIR IN MY
TESTIMONY.
WAS PUT INTO THE CONSTITUTION BY.
VERY SAME LAW FIRM AND MR
RANCHOS FIRM THAT IS WHAT WROTE
MISTER MCTAGGART AND WORKED ON
MAKING THE TIGERS AND FILED HIS
DEAL I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS
KIND OF INTERESTING IN TERMS OF
HOW THINGS COLD WELCOME CIRCLE.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO EAT
THROUGH A QUESTION I GUESS TO TO
THE AUTHOR IN TERMS OF THE
CHAMBER SAYS THAT BUSINESS
WASN'T CONSULTED.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO THINGS
ACTUALLY NUMBER ONE IS YOU KNOW
THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS TO GIVE A
LITTLE THE MENTION OF ALL THE
PEOPLE THIS IS A THRE MONTH
PROCESS IF I UNDERSTAND THIS
CORRECTLY IN WHICH YOU'VE BEEN
INVOLVED.
ON THE SECOND ITERATION BECAUSE
INITIALLY YOUR BILL THE BILL
THAT WE HAVE HE WAS ON THE FLOOR
AND COULDN'T GET OFF I WAS TOLD
YESTERDAY IN.
A CAUCUS NEARLY TWELVE VOTES IT
AND KNOW THAT BUT BUT I WAS ONE
NEW COMPETITIVE IT SO SO THE
NOTION IS ONE THAT THAT THE
TERMS OF GETTING A SOLUTION THAT
THERE WAS.
LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS
THAT YOUR TRUSTY STAFF HERE IN
THE AUDIENCE WORK ON AND MY
STEPS IN THEIR DOCTOR REGARDING
OTHERS WORKED ON AND BOTH OF
THEM WITH A IN THE ADVOCATES
WITH THE TRIAL LAWYERS ALIKE IN
TERMS OF LISTENING TO A
TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF FOLKS.
MAYBE TODAY THERE SAID YOU GET
WHAT THEY WANTED THAT'S A
DIFFERENT STORY THOSE WERE
DECISIONS MISTER MCTAGGART AS TO
WHETHER HE WAS GONNA PAUL.
THE SECOND ISSUE THAT I WANT YOU
TO DRESS.
IS THIS DISCUSSION A PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION WHICH BECAME
LITERALLY AT ONE THIRTY IN THE
MORNING AND OUR OVER ONE
SENTENCE ROW DID BRILLIANTLY WAS
ENGAGED IN.
A AND THE PRIVATE OF ACTION
BEING LIMITED TO OF OF OF THE
DATA BREACH AT ISSUE BECAUSE THE
THE THE OTHER OF THEM THE OTHER
ENFORCEMENT MEASURES TO WHICH I
REFERRED TO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
BE BOLSTERED UP BY THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE.
BUT YOU JUST THOSE ISSUES IF YOU
COULD [inaudible]
TOP SILICON.
LET ME LET ME START BY THANKING
ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION
AND AND LET ME JUST ADDRESS ONE
ISSUE BECAUSE HE SAWED OFF AND I
WANNA CALL THE CHAIRS A COMMENT
ABOUT THE PROCESS ITSELF --
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT IT IS NOT A
PERFECT PROCESS AND IT'S A
PROCESS THAT I MYSELF DO NOT
LIKE.
BUT YET I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY
THING WE HAVE --
AND S. FAR AS THE THE A CONTEXT
TO BUSINESSES ARE.
ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO WHEN I
WAS ASKED BY THE SPEAKER TO BE
THE POINT PERSON OF THE
COORDINATOR FROM THE ASSEMBLY
SIDE TO WORK ON THE LEGISLATIVE
PROPOSAL.
BECAUSE MISTER HERTZBERG AYE A
RESTYLED TO VARIOUS A
STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN FACT I HAD
NUMEROUS MEETINGS --
WITHOUT ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS I
INVITED THEM --
TO PROVIDE US WITH THE INPUT
SUGGESTIONS OR EVEN LANGUAGE.
UPON AND DOES SPECIFICALLY I
ASKED DATA THEY PROVIDE COMMENTS
ABOUT THE INITIATIVE OF WHAT
PART OR PARTS OF THE INITIATIVE
DATE.
DID OR DID NOT LIKE ARE SOME OF
THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO
PROVIDE INPUT TO US BUT THE
POINT BEING THAT WE DID REACH
OUT TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS AND ARE
TRYING TO COMMUNICATE.
A WITH EVERYONE IN QUESTION IN
FACT -- IS
DOING A LOT PROCESS WE ARE
ENGAGED TO COMMUNITY ARE
EXTENSIVELY.
SO I THOUGHT THAT IS --
IT YEAH I TAKE EXCEPTION TO TO
SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS RAISED
EARLIER AND AS FAR AS THE
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION NOT TO
SENATOR IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT --
THE LIMITED PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION ONLY PERTAINS TO THE DATA
BREACH PORTION OF THE BILL.
NOW AS TO THE VIOLATIONS --
ABOUT THE REST OF THE OF THE OF
THE OF THE BILL OUGHT THEY WILL
BE ENFORCED BY THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL --
AND FIRST OF THE PRIVATE RIGHT-OF ACTION IT'S A VERY LIMITED
ONE BECAUSE WE WE DO PROVIDE A
THIRTY DAYS RIGHT TO CURE.
WE ALSO A PROVIDE DODD THE AG'S
INVOLVEMENT ONLY OF THE AG DOES
NOT TAKE ACTION WITHIN A
TIMEFRAME THAT DOT UP CONSUMER
COULD TAKE ACTION.
ALL THIS BILL ALSO ELIMINATES
THE WHISTLEBLOWER A PROVISION
DOT SO IN THE INITIATIVE.
SO WE HAVE STREAMLINED THE
PROCESS WE HAVE A MADE IT EASIER
OF FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF
VIOLATIONS ON THE BILL AS WELL
AS THE DATA BREACH OF VIOLATION.
SO IT IS A PRODUCT OUT THAT WE
THINK WILL ADVANCE THE BALL IT
IS A PRODUCT THAT WE THINK WOULD
UP.
OUR ADVOCATE FOR THE CONSUMERS
OF PRIVACY PROTECTION ALTHOUGH
MANY OF THESE ARE PROVISIONS IN
THE BILL ARE NOT --
IN OUR CURRENT LAW AND OUT IT IS
NOT A PERFECT PRODUCT BY ANY
MEANS AND I I'D I MUST ADMIT A
GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'VE
HAVE.
HAD DONE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS
BUT YET.
THAT THAT WE HAVE TO HELP US A
LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS IN COMING
OUT WITH A PRODUCT THAT WE COULD
LIVE WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD --
THOUGHT GIVE THE CONSUMER
CONTROL OVER THEIR OWN DATA
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO
NOT HAVE ON THE CURRENT LAW
[inaudible]
SO ON THE THE BILL DOES HAVE A
ONE YEAR DELAY IMPLEMENTATION AW
DOT WILL ALLOW US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO OUR DO ANY
CLEANUP WORK OUT I'VE HEARD
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES
ALREADY I BELIEVE.
OF THE COMMUNITY HAS A LIST OF
US SEVERAL ISSUES THAT THEY LIKE
TO ADDRESS AND MY COMMITMENT TO
THE SENATORS AND TO ALL OF
EVERYONE IS.
TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO SEE IF WE COULD
ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT
MAY COME UP ARE BETWEEN NOW AND
THEN.
AND OUT SHOOK DOT IS MY
COMMITMENT TO THE COMMITTEE AND
AS WELL AS TO THE COMPACT
pPASSING THIS A MEASURE I THINK
WE WILL BE MOVING THE BALL
FORWARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH US SENATOR
WHITE HOUSE SKI I APPRECIATE
THAT -- X. --
COMMSSION ON THE PART RED
FACTION BECAUSE THAT WAS MY OUT
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS HE BELIEVED
THAT THIS CLEAN UP LEGISLATION
LESS NEXT YEAR THERE WAS SOME
REFERENCE TO SUBPARAGRAPH THREE
OR SEE THE GIVES THIRTY DAYS.
YOU CAN CLAIM TO CLEAN THAT UP
FOR A DO IT IN THAT.
KIND OF LEGISLATION WE WILL BE
HAPPY TO LOOK.
AT THIS POINT THAT WE WE DO NOT
HAVE ANY --
SPECIFIC ASSERTION THAT ANY
PARTICULAR CAUSE SECTION IS NOT
WORKING WELL WORKING SO WE NEED
TO SIT DOWN AND YOU KNOW WORK IT
ALL OUT.
BUT YA ALBEIT A VERY HAPPY TO
WORK WITH YOU CALL ARE GOING
FORWARD AS WELL OKAY LET'S JUMP
TO A STARTING AT PAGE SIXTEEN
THAT.
THE RIGHT TO HAVE THE LEAD
INFORMATION QUITE BROAD --
AYE BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO
PUT ON YOUR BILL DOUG DOUGLAS
HAVE.
NOT YOUR CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
RIGHT TO PRIVACY BUT LOOK AT THE
NUMBERS OF ALL THE CONSTITUTION
AND IN WE LOOK AT THIS INFILL
BROUGHT ABILITY TO DELETE
BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION
THAT'S HERE.
DO BUSINESS THROUGHOUT THE
UNITED STATES SO EVERYBODY'S
WATCHING CALIFORNIA BUT I'M
WONDERING WHAT YOU WOULD THINK
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CONSTITUTION
NOT THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
BUT THE PENUMBRA.
ABOUT THIS BROADNESS OF THE
RIGHT TO DELETE IT WOULD BUILDUP
FOR SAFE YOU SIT IN YOUR SEAT
RIGHT NOW TO ME.
ABOUT THE RIGHT OF PRACTICE
PRIVACY.
WELL I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE COULD ALSO LOOK INTO
WHETHER OR NOT THE PROVISION IS
SO TO BROUGHT --
AND I THINK THAT --
WE TRY -- TO
LIMITED THE BILL LANGUAGE TO BOB
BASICALLY W BE WITHIN THE
CONSTITUTIONAL AND IT.
AND ARE I YOU KNOW I I THINK THE
LEAD IS SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT
TO GIVE THE CONSUMER AND THAT'S
THE THAT'S THE GENERAL --
PRINCIPLE THAT I AM OPERATING
UNDER AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT
WOULD.
BE CONSIDERED TO BROUGHT BY
COURT I THINK THAT'S UP TO
DEBATE DOT BUT WE BELIEVE THAT
THE CURRENT LINE WHICH WILL
PROBABLY --
PASSER A CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTARD
BUT YET I'M UNHAPPY LOOK INTO IT
AS WELL AS PART OF THE DID TO DO
LISTS.
THANK YOU --
SENATOR ANDERSON THEN CENTER
MORE LOCK AND THEN SUMMER
MORNING.
FANS FIRST SAW TO SAY THAT I'M
GRATEFUL FOR FOR THE INITIAL
PROCESS BECAUSE I THE
LEGISLATURE COULD OF TAKEN ON
THIS ISSUE TO ANY POINT --
SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE
LEGISLATURE.
AND WE CHOSE NOT.
TO BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFICULT SO.
THE INITIAL PROCESS SAYS
ACTUALLY WORK QUITE WELL BECAUSE
WE'RE NOW.
DELVING INTO AN ISSUE THAT THAT
WE KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE
PUBLIC [inaudible]
THE SECOND --
THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU.
IS -- IN
THIS BILL [inaudible]
I WAS.
THIS HAPPENED SO RAPIDLY.
IF I'M A VENDOR.
AND I KNOW THAT I'M PAYING FOR
ALL THE THE WEBSPACE THE BAN
WITH THE OUR UP KEEP.
BECAUSE I HAVE A PRODUCT TO SELL
MATCH PEOPLE'S PRIVACY.
SO IF I CAN'T SELL THEIR PRIVACY.
DOES THIS BILL PROHIBIT ME FROM
CHARGING.
PEOPLE. FOR THE SAME SERVICE
BECAUSE IF EVERYBODY.
OPTED OUT.
AND I HAD NO ABILITY TO CHARGE
FOR THOSE SERVICES THERE WOULD
BE NO SERVICE.
GET THAT THERE BE NO REVENUE
STREAM TO PAY FOR IT SO.
WHAT IS THIS BILL DO ABOUT THAT?
WELL ESSENTIALLY THE BUT WHAT
THE BILL SAYS IS THAT IT DOES A
PROHIBITS --
DISCRIMINATION --
IF THE CONSUMER ELECTS TO
EXERCISE HIS OR HER OPTION TO
OPT OUT.
IN OTHER WORDS IF --
THE CONSUMER SO.
THEN THE COMPANY WHAT DO YOU BE
BANNED FROM OF REFUSING TO
PROVIDE SERVICE TO THAT
INDIVIDUAL.
LAW AND OR IF OUR IF HE OWES DO
CONSUMER REFUSES TO TO ACTION --
TO UPDATE FOR EXAMPLE IS DECKED.
LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY IF THE
CONSUMER ACCESS I SIT HIS OPTION
TO OPT OUT [inaudible]
DEAD.
HE SHOULD NOT BE DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST BY THE COMPANY.
IF THE COMPANY.
REFUSES TO PROVIDE SERVICE
STATUS IS ONE FORM OF
DISCRIMINATION [inaudible]
ERIC [inaudible]
GOODNESS OF SURELY MISTER
MCTAGGART YOU HAVE TO SPEAK
THROUGH THE CHAIR SO IF YOU HAVE
NOT EXACTLY YOU KNOW YOU CAN SIT
DOWN BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO
RESPOND.
UNTIL OR CHAIR OKAY BUT IF YOU
GUYS RESPOND OUR PRESENCE
[inaudible]
BOB.
THE SENATOR I HAD KIDS.
WHAT'S GOING THIS IS WHERE YOUR
ISSUES THAT IS ONE ISSUE THAT
DID CHANGE ON I DID.
THERE WAS IN INITIATIVE THERE
WAS THE TOTAL PROHIBITION ON IBM
TO CHARGE MATURE POINT WE HAD A
LONG DISCUSSION BUT THAT DAY.
IS NOW THAT.
THE COMPANIES CAN CHARGE.
HOWEVER IT'S CABIN BY
[inaudible]
IT'S A THE POINT OF HIGH THAT
DEBATE --
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME WHO THINK
IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY --
PRICE AND THERE ARE SOME ON YOUR
SIDE VICTIMS MUST BE PRICED.
IN THE MIDDLE WHERE WE MET AND
SAID THAT --
WE COMPROMISED AND AG WILL HAVE
TO ISSUE REGULATIONS ON THIS BUT
THAT THAT IS PERMITTED AND
THAT'S WHAT'S IN.
THE CURRENT FORM OF IT.
THANKS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED
[inaudible]
SENATOR MORLOCK.
YES I THINK MANAGER YOU ARE
REFERRED TO THIS IS A HOBSON'S
CHOICE.
I KIND OF A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
OPPORTUNITY BUT WE REALLY HAVE A
COUPLE CHOICES ONE IS. TO TURN
DOWN THE BILL AND BUT MR
MCTAGGART HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME
ENJOYING A CAMPAIGN.
A CONVINCING THE VOTERS TO
APPROVE HIS BALLOT MEASURE AND
THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAVE
A WONDERFUL TIME OPPOSING IT.
AND THEN WE LET THE VOTERS
THROUGH THEIR REVIEW OF THEY
CHOICES MAKE MAKE A VOTE AND SO.
WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO AND WE DID
SOMETHING SOMEWHERE WHERE THE
CRAM DOWN ON THE MINIMUM WAGE.
YOU KNOW WE GOT MAYBE WE
EXTENDED THE THING A YEAR SO BUT
BACK AT A GUN TO THE BALLOT WE
CAN LET THE VOTERS DECIDE IN
[inaudible]
SO I'M.
I'M A LITTLE --
FRUSTRATED THAT ON SOME OF THESE
BILLS THIRTIES FINISH LIVES WE
SORT OF GIVE SOMETHING MAYBE A
LITTLE BETTER BUT STILL NOT.
SATISFACTORY TO ALL PARTIES.
AYE BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE
ATTITUDE TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW WANNA DO AN ALTERNATE
BILL TO THE REPEAL THE GAS TAX.
AND SO WE DON'T FIGHT A MALL
OBVIOUSLY [inaudible]
SO -- I'M
I'M.
KILEY GOING TOWARD THAT THE
VOTERS DECIDE DECIDED GIVE LET
THEM.
WE DON'T ENJOY THE BATTLE OF
IDEAS SO --
POPULAR POLITICAL CONCERNS
POLLING AND AT THAT SENATE
CENTER BUT I TELL ME WHY
SHOULDN'T HOLD A POSITION THAT
JUST WHAT THE VOTERS.
ALL THESE PEOPLE SIGNED THE
PETITION SO.
WHY SHOULD I BE TRYING TO TWEAK
IT A LITTLE BIT BUT STILL BE
VERY UNHAPPY WITH THE FINAL
RESULT?
HERE ARE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
QUESTION SENATOR I THINK ONE
REASON --
GOT PEOPLE --
WOULD PREFERRED THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS OR THE BILLS AUTHOR
TALLY BEFORE YOU IS THE FACT
THAT THE INITIATIVE CONTAINS A
PROVISION IN THERE THAT REQUIRES.
A 70% OF OUR MEMBERS OF BOTH
BOTH HOUSES I NOTED TO MAKE
CHANGES TO THE CONTENT OF THE OF
THE BILL OF THE INITIATIVE.
WHICH IS A PRETTY HIGH THRESHOLD
ARE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
WITH PRESENT MAY BE A ROADBLOCK
SO DIFFICULTY A TO PASS OUT
THERE ALONE EIGHTY A MAJORITY
BILL SOMETIMES AND WHEN IT COMES
TO PRIVACY.
THAT'S IT IT 70% WHAT THAT'S ONE
MAJOR REASON THAT PEOPLE HAVE US
HAVE ABOUT THE TECHNICAL
CORRECTION THAT'S NOT IT THAT
YOU CAN GET A 100% PRETTY EASY.
I MEAN REALLY IF YOU WANT.
TO AYE I DON'T THINK YOU NEED.
TO THAT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION
GROUP OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER REASONS WHY
SHOULD.
NOT JUST LET IT GO TO THE VOTERS
HAVE THAT'S IT WELL I MEAN I
THINK OUT THE A WE BELIEVE THAT
THERE ARE THIS BILL --
YOU KNOW IS SO IT'S MORE OF HOT.
PROBABLY I THINK FOR FOR LIKE A
BETTER TERM --%
I THINK YOU KNOW WOULD BE
PREFERRED BY --
MANY MANY IDENTITIES.
THE IT THE INITIATIVE.
SO AS FAR AS A LITTLE IT'S A
WORKABILITY ISSUE SAID IS SO TO
SPEAK A US SENATOR.
THANK YOU CURRENT KINDA
MINIATURE --
FOOTSIE.
SENATOR MONNING.
DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND AS FUNDS
ARE MORE LIKE WHO THREE ARCHERS
ACT AS A A CO AUTHOR.
COUPLE THINGS ON IN ADDTION TO
THE PROCESS A QUESTION CENTER
MORLOCK IT IS THE RIGHT TO
DELETE WHICH CENTRAL CALCULAR
FOR TWO NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO IS
THERE'S A CHILDREN'S PROTECTION
THAT OTHERWISE IS INCLUDED
NUMBER THREE IS THIS LANGUAGE.
THAT DEALS WITH THE CAMBRIDGE%
ANALYTICAL ISSUE THAT WASN'T
ANTICIPATED THAT WE THINK WE'VE
DEALT WITH PRETTY INTELLIGENTLY
NUMBER FOUR IS WILL GIVE YOU A
CHART.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO COMPARE
THE U. GDP OUR STANDARDS AND
WHAT THEY ARE WHAT THEY HAVE
WHAT CURRENT LAWS IN CALIFORNIA
WHAT WE BELIEVE THE THE
INITIATIVE SAYS IN TERMS OF
CONSUMER PROTECTIONS?
AND WHAT MR CHAO'S AS THREE
SEVENTY FIVE HOUSE AND IF YOU
TAKE A LOOK AT IT YOU'LL SEE IN
LARGE MEASURE.
THAT THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN
CHANGING DEPENDING UPON YOUR
POINT OF VIEW SOME PEOPLE ON ONE
SIDE SOMETHING FOR THE OTHER
PERSON ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE
MEASURE THAT'S ON THE BALLOT.
ARM GIVES A PRIVATE OF ACTION
ACROSS.
BUSINESS INTERESTS THAT'S
CONCERNED WITH THE RIGHT OR
WRONG AND NOT A PARTING OF
SHARING THE ANSWER THE QUESTION
LEGITIMATELY.
THAT THEY'LL GET JACKED UP WITH
THESE BIG COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY
CAN.
YOU KNOW MAKE THESE GIGANTIC
CLAIMS VERSES WHERE ARE WE THINK
THAT THE THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS
ON DATA BREACH OR PEOPLE REALLY
ARE HARMED.
AND IN GIVING POWER TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO THE END OF
THE DAY DESPITE THE NOISE YOU
HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE NOT LIKING IT
I MEAN HOW MANY TIMES WE ALL HAD
BILLS THAT.
IF SHE DOESN'T LIKE THE AND WE
ARE THE REPUBLIC WE LISEN TO
ALL THE VIEWS AND MAKE A
DECISION THERE WRE SOME SHORTER
AMOUNT OF THOUGHT GOING INTO
THIS STUFF.
UP AND AND THERE ARE IN MY
JUDGMENT ADMIT NUMBER OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT ARE STILL FACE
THE LIST THAT WE'VE HEARD THE
OPEN ISSUES.
ART TWEAKS ASSURANCES CITY
CERTAIN ISSUES RELATED
INDUSTRIES BUT BY AND LARGE BY
ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.
THE LAST THREE MONTHS HAVE BEEN
A REAL DEEP LISTENING TOUR AND
TRYING TO TAKE IT IS MANY OF
THOSE THINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT
WITH WHAT MR MCTAGGART WANTED TO
DO SO.
IN MY JUDGMENT THE ANSWER THAT
QUESTION IS NOT LEADING TO THE
VOTERS BUT ULTIMATELY HAVING AN
EXTREMELY BETTER PRODUCT THAT
YOU CAN PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT
WILL BE THE BEST PRIVACY LAWS.
IN THE COUNTRY AND PARTICULARLY
COMPARED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY
AND THIS DOESN'T PASS AND IF THE
ISSUE DOESN'T PASS OR PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA PARTICULARLY YOUNG
PEOPLE PROTECTED.
AND THE ANSWER IS NO IF THIS
PASSES THE ANSWER IS YES.
THANK YOU SENATOR MONNING.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR --
NO ONE THINK THE AUTHOR IN THE
CO AUTHORS FOR THE WORK ON THIS
I HAD A QUICK COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS ON ON THE PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION.
THE LIMITATIONS ON THAT PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION [inaudible]
DON'T PREVENT.
AN ACTION IN CONTRACTING CAN.
IF IT PRIVATELY IF MY RIGHTS
HAVE BEEN VIOLATED UNDER
CONTRACT.
CAN I STILL BRING AN ACTION
UNDER [inaudible]
CONTRACT [inaudible]
I PERCENT.
YES YEP THE QUICK ANSWER IS YES
SO I THINK I WAS LOOKING FOR THE
REFERENCE THAT.
BUT THOSE A WERE HEROES INCLUDE
THAT GETS A THING WILLIAMS YOU
ALL OTHER RIGHTS THAT YOU WOULD
OTHERWISE HAVE IT RIGHT CAN YOU
TO BE IN A SIGN THAT IT'S NOT
NEARING MY RIGHT UNDER.
A CONTRACTUAL ALSO REACH RIGHT
OKAY THAT'S FINE WITH YOU DON'T
HAVE TO FIND THE SITE AYE THIS
MINUTE --
AND THEN RELATED TO THAT THE ACT.
CREATES A THIRTY DAY RIGHT TO
CURE.
SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT
WOULD WORK HERE IF MY DAD IT'S
IN THE HANDS OF A VENDOR LIST ST
THAT I PROVIDED MY NAME IN.
PERSONAL INFORMATION MAY BE A
CREDIT CARD NUMBER [inaudible]
AND AND THEY SELL THAT SOME
THIRD PARTY.
THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE SO HOW
DOES A RIGHT TO CURE OF QUIT.
QUIT QUIT CANADIAN THIRTY DAYS.
TO RESTORE THE RIGHT IT'S BEEN
BREACHED.
YEP THAT THE RIGHT OF ARE THE
RIGHT TO CURE IT ONLY PERTAINS
SORT TO CERTAIN SITUATIONS IT
DOES NOT PERTAIN TO ALL
SITUATIONS AND AND WERE
SITUATIONS WHERE.
ARE THE TO CURE OR OR THE
TRANSFER OF INFORMATION COULD BE
STOPPED MID STREAM I THINK THAT
IS SO ONE SCENARIO WHERE THAT
WAS DONE.
WOULD BE OUT GLOBAL ARE
OBVIOUSLY FOR ITS IT.
LATELY THEN BECAUSE PROBABLY
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY TO
ACCOUNT RETRACT OUT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU THAT NEEDS TO BE
REFINED EVEN SOME SOMEWHERE HAS
REAL LIMIT FINAL QUESTION --
TO THE NEWSPAPER MEDIA
REPRESENTATIVE CONCERNED ABOUT --
PROTECTIONS.
FOR YOU OR REPORTER PROTECTING.
SOURCES ETCETERA --
POINT ASSURANCES [inaudible]
CAN WE FOUGHT FOR OUR FREE PRESS
THAT THIS WON'T UNDERMINE
[inaudible]
THEY'RE RIGHT.
YEAH.
TOKYO LAWS THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
YOUR SALAS QUESTIONS SENATOR I
LIKE -- TO
POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE OF
THE DEFINITIONS IN THE BILL --
WORRY SAYS SET UP SPEECH AT A IS
A POLITICAL SPEECH IN JOURNALISM --
WOULD BE PROTECTED THIS WOULD BE
ON THERE.
MISSION CLOSE ON THE DEFINITION
UNDER --
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES ARE WHO IF I
COULD TO READ DATA OFF UP TO YOU
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES MEANS TO
ADVANCE A PERSON'S COMMERCIAL OR
ECONOMIC INTERESTS SUCH AS BY
INDUCING AND OTHER PERSON TO BUY.
RENT LEASE JOINT SUBSCRIBE TO
PROVIDE FOR EXCHANGE PRODUCTS
GOOD SO PROPERTY INFORMATION
SERVICES FOR ENABLING.
EFFECTING DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY
A COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION.
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES TO NODDING --
INCLUDE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
ENGAGING IN SPEECH THAT STATE OR
FEDERAL COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED
AS NON COMMERCIAL SPEECH
INCLUDING POLITICAL SPEECH AND
JOURNALISM.
I THINK THAT ADDRESSES YOUR
BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE FROM
MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU I JUST A
FINAL COMMENT --
ON THIS BROADER QUESTION OF THE
PROCESS WERE IN --
WE'RE SEEING SOME LEVERAGE USED
BY IN SOME OTHER BALLOT MEASURE
DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ARE VERY
TROUBLING --
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS
PROCESS HAS ACTUALLY RESULTED IN
ME.
IN A BETTER.
MORE COMPREHENSIVE PRODUCTS SO --
I THINK.
WHEN I THINK THE AUTHOR THE THE
BALLOT MEASURE IN FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE IN THIS
PROCESS IN THE ELEVENTH HOUR --
WITH THE SHARED OBJECTIVE OF
TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE BEST
POSSIBLE PROTECTION SO THANK YOU
AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU ALRIGHT BUT ANY
FURTHER DEBATED DISCUSSION
SENATOR STORM THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO ADDRESS
MY QUESTIONS THOUGH TO THE
AUTHOR TO MR MCTAGGART MAD I
THINK.
THAT'S A BIT OF THE AWKWARD
SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN --
I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK OF
CENTER HERTZBERG IN THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER.
ON ENGAGING IN THIS BUT I I
WOULDN'T CALL THIS A LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS OR EVEN REALLY.
ILL HAVE THE TRAPPINGS OF
LEGISLATION BUT QUOTE WHAT WHAT
GERMANY IT WAS NOT --
A COMMITTEE MARKUP FOR AN
AMENDMENT PROCESS BUT REALLY.
A LISTENING TOUR IN A BLACK BOX.
AND I APPRECIATE. TO SOME EXTENT%
YOU KNOW WHY IT.
HAD TO OCCUR THAT WAY BUT I HAVE
TO SAY --
YEAH I WE GOT ELECTED.
AND PEOPLE VOTED FOR US AND THEY
VOTERS HERE TO PASS LAWS --
AND LOOK AT MARKETS AND LOOK AT
THESE ISSUES I I WOULD I WOULD
DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION THAT.
THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T ACTED AS
BEEN DERELICT IN THEIR DUTY I
THINK YOU'RE GOING ABOUT YOUR
WORK --
DILIGENTLY AND YOU HAD THIS
INITIATIVE PUT US IN A SPOT
WHERE WE HAVE TO DEAL.
SO I I RESPECT THE DILIGENCE YOU
PUT INTO THIS MISTER MCTAGGART
BUT I'D I SUPPLY WILL SAY YOU
KNOW.
IT'S A IT'S AN ODD SPOT TO BE
ASKING.
YOU WHAT WHEN WHERE AND WHEN
WERE LOOKING THROUGH THE
AMENDMENTS THIS WEEKEND RIGHT
WE'VE GOT SEVENTY TWO HOURS TO
DO THIS AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT OKAY.
I JUST COMPARED TO GDP ARE WHAT
ABOUT MARKET MANIPULATION ISSUES
LOOKING AT FRAUD ISSUES LOOKING
AT THE IP SIDE HOW WHAT IS THIS
GOING TO DO THE AD SPACE I HAD A
CHANCE TO READ YOUR INITIATIVE
BY THEN.
I MEAN. THIRTY TWO HOURS OKAY
THANK GOD FOR THAT BUT CAN'T
CHANGE.
HERE IT IS PURELY.
HI KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT
BUT I GOTTA SAY AND I I DON'T
WANT TO APPLAUD ANYBODY.
I TO MUCH HERE TODAY BECAUSE I
THINK THE WORK HAS JUST BEGUN --
AND I APPRECIATE THE THE
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE AUTHOR.
TO TO COMMIT TO MAKING THAT
HAPPEN I I DID WANT TO RAISE A
FEW THINGS FOR THE LIST I KNOW
WE'VE BEEN SORT OF ACCUMULATING
THAT BUT FIRST AS TWENTY GET I
KNOW WE'VE TALKED THROUGH THIS
TRA ISSUE --
CLEARLY FROM YOU MISTER
MACTAGGART JUST ON YOUR
UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS.
ONE IF ONE BREACH THERE'S ONE
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IN THIS
BILL NOT NOT MANY I MEAN IT
WASN'T OUR SENATOR SIR TO THE
CHAIR.
THE ELECT ASK A QUESTION AS I
WOULD VERY GOOD THANK YOU SO
MUCH -- SO
WONDERING JUST YOUR
UNDERSTANDING OF THAT THAT.
PROVISION AND HOW MANY CAUSES OF
ACTION IS BILL ACTUALLY CREATES.
YES THE THANK YOU SENATOR --
THE PRIVATE ACTION AS SET FORTH
IN DID DATA BREACHES.
FURTHERMORE --
YOU KNOW IS THAT I'M A BUSINESS
PERSON I AM WHEN I LOOKED AT IT.
THAT THE THE LITMUS TEST FOR IT
A BREACH GOING FORWARD ARE ONE
WHAT'S THE DATA ENCRYPTED HER OR
OR A REDACTED.
IF IT'S ENCRYPTED REDACTED
THERE'S NO DATE WHICH CASE SO
WE'RE TRYING.
TO URGE COMPANIES TO ENCRYPT
DIRECTOR AND THEIR INFORMATION
THAT IT'S FINE.
IF THE COMPANY MET EXISTING
CALIFORNIA LAW WHICH IS THE PAST
HAVE REASONABLE SECURITY
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE.
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO NEED RICH
CASE.
ONLY IF THOSE TWO THINGS ARE
MISSING THAT YOU HAD UNREDACTED
UNENCRYPTED INFORMATION.
AND YOU HAD A DIDN'T HAVE THE
RESULT PULSES OF HUGE IN PLACE.
THEN YOU GET TO THE NEXT THINGS
OKAY THEN WAS THERE ACT
UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS THAT
RESULTED IN --
DISCLOSURE --
THEFT.
FILTRATION WITH THREE WORDS SO
BASICALLY WHAT WHAT WHAT THAT
WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS THAT
UNLESS THE PFAFF BURKE ARE
STEALING OF THE DATA OR SOMEONE
THAT YOU KNOW WHAT DISCLOSURE OF
THE DATA TOOK PLACE --
THERE IS NOT A ADD A ADD.
A CASE OF AND AS A BUSINESS
PERSON LOOKED AND IT'S ACTUALLY
BUT THAT THAT'S A GOOD.
SOLUTION A PLACE TO WRITE ABOUT
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING
FOR SENATE COMPANIES.
IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO
PROTECT.
IT'S YOU KNOW TWO YEARS DOING
WHAT YOU SHOULD DO AND IF YOU
DON'T AND THERE'S A PREACHER IN
THAT YOU'RE GONNABE LIABLE.
WE'RE TRYING TO CUT DOWN THIS
TERRIBLE SCOURGE OF OF IDENTITY
THEFT AND AND SO.
WE THINK THIS IS A AWAY TO
ENCOURAGE COMPANIES TO DO THE
RIGHT THING. TO COMPLY WITH
EXISTING CALIFORNIA LAW FRANKLY
AND WE THINK MOST CAPITAL GOODS
AND SAY YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY
REALLY REALLY EASY TO COMPLY
WITH THIS IN CALIFORNIA LOCKETS
IF.
FIRST O TALK ABOUT COMPANIES
WITH OVER TWENTY FIVE MILLION IN
REVENUE.
MOST THOSE COMPANIES HAVE AN IT
DEPARTMENT. 490% AND FRANKLY ALL
YOU HAVE TO HAVE HIS.
SAID DO YOU HAVE REASONABLE
SECURITY POLICIES EXIGENT PLACE
I THINK THAT SEVENTEEN NINETY
AND THROUGH THE CHAIR --
HOW DO WE?
HOW WAS THAT REASONABLENESS
DETERMINAR WE CUT WE'RE KIND OF
JUST KICKING THAT TO THE COURTS
TO TO DETERMINE EXISTING BUT
THAT'S IN LA RIGHT NOW SENATOR
BUT IN THIS CONTEXT?
WE DIDN'T WANT TO READ WHAT I
HAVE PUT IT WE DON'T WANT TO
REDEFINE THAT --
STANDARD COULD SO THAT FELT LIKE
THAT'S EXISTING LAWS BEEN
EMPLOYED BOOKS RECTIFIERS SO ANY
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME YOU
OVER FOR YOU MAKE IT BRIEF IF
YOU WOULD BECAUSE WE HAVE
ANOTHER.
ATTEMPT TO DO SO WELL SO LET'S
MAKE IT BRIEF SO --
THE THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT --
IP ADDRESSES AND TREATING THAT
IS PERSONAL INFORMATION --
MY IP ADDRESS I JUST LOOKED IT
UP HERE -- I
CAN READ IT OFF TO YOU IT
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE --
MY YEAH AND AND I DON'T KNOW WHO --
WHO HEARS LISTENING BUT IT'S ONE
NINE TWO DOT TWO THREE FOUR DOT
TWO ONE FOUR DOT?
ONE ONE ZERO I'M SITTING IN THIS
ROOM HERE IN SACRAMENTO
CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE ROOM WITH A
LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE CELL
PHONES AND SMARTPHONES
[inaudible]
AND THE NOTION THAT YOU'D BE
ABLE TO IDENTIFY.
THOSE NUMBERS EXCEPT BORING WHAT
I JUST SAID THAT THEY ARE THAT
IS MY IP ADDRESS.
BARRING THAT --
WELL HOW COULD YOU KNOW AND HOW
HOW I THAT JUSTIFIABLY PERSONAL
INFORMATION THE REASON I ASK
[inaudible]
IS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL
VIABILITY OF THIS INCREDIBLE
TOOL WE'VE GOT CALLED THE
INTERNET.
RELIES TO SOME EXTENT ON A FREE
FLOW OF THAT INFORMATION.
NO I I READ IN THE EXCEPT IN AND
AND A CHAMPION THAT THAT RIGHT
TO PRIVACY IN OUR CONSTITUTION
BUT THAT THAT RIGHT TO PROPERTY
TO COMES IT.
RIGHT AND HOW HOW DO WE ENGAGE
IN COMMERCE IF FOR NOT ALLOWED
TO TO LET THAT INFORMATION FLOW
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW HOW YOU
GUYS ANTICIPATE THAT PLAYING OUT
IN THE MARKETPLACE IN.
MAYBE IT OFFER IT OFFERED IS
SOMEWHERE. TO TO BE RELIEVED
FOCUSED ON THROUGH THE
IMPLEMENTATION STAGES AND THE
REGULATORY STATUS BECAUSE I JUST
I CAN'T QUITE PICTURE.
HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK MAY BUT IT
INSIGHT HERE A FEW GOD IT WOULD
BE VERY BRIEFLY VERY BRING US SO
SIR --
PERSONAL INFORMATION IS DEFINED
AS A INFORMATION THAT IS AND
ALWAYS HAS TO BE LINKED DIRECTLY
OR INDIRECTLY AND DIRECTLY WITH
A PARTICULAR CONSUMER HOUSEHOLD.
SO THAT WAS LACKEY ONE OF THE
THINGS WE DID WAS WE SAID YOU
KNOW THE WHOLE MUCH INFORMATION
OUT THERE IS WHAT YOU LINK IT TO
THE PERSON THAT IT BECOMES
PERSONAL.
IDENTIFICATION IDENTIFIED IT
PERSONAL INFORMATION FIFTY
IDENTIFIED.
THE SUPPER CLUB THAT FROM THE
INFORMATION AND THAT WAS A THING
FROM.
AND LAST QUESTION YEAH I CRY NO
QUESTION --
WE CAN BE THROUGH CHAIR OR JUST
TO THE AUTHOR --
BUT THE GDP ARE AND
IMPLEMENTATION HAS BEEN I WOULD
CALL A ROCKY START --
AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME OF
THE ISSUES AROUND --
INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATIONS
REMARK IN MARKET MANIPULATION
AND FRAUD AND SORT OF REGULATORS
NOW COMING OUT I THINK THERE'S
BEEN FORMAL REQUEST FROM NORTH
AMERICA LIKE ALL OVER NORTH
AMERICA.
EUROPE. TO SAY IF WE'RE GOING
AFTER INTERNATIONAL ACTORS WE
ACTUALLY NEED TO ACCESS SOME OF
THIS INFORMATION DO YOU HAVE ANY
SENSE OF HOW YOU.
HOW HOW WOULD THIS LAWS SORT OF --
ADDRESS THAT THAT THAT CURRENT
THIS JUST CAME UP.
THROUGH THE CHAIR CAN YOU ANSWER
THAT.
IN A TWO TO THREE DAYS REALLY
PLEASE BRIEFLY I THINK LIKE IT
LIKE ANY NEW LAW I THINK A
WHETHER IT'S DDP ARE OTHERWISE I
THINK.
WHEN YOU FIRST IMPLEMENT THE LAW
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE BUMPS ON
THE ROAD SO I THINK IT'S A YOU
KNOW IT'S A MATTER OF FACT?
FINDING OUT WHAT THOSE THUMPS
ARE -- TO
ADDRESS THEM SO SO I THINK YEAH
I THINK THIS.
SOME OF THE TUITION BUT YEAH I I
THINK.
ONCE WE HAVE THE CONCEPT WAS
WITH THE PRINCIPLES IN PLACE I
THINK YOU KNOW THE DETAILS COULD
BE WORKED OUT AS WE COULD WE
PROCEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALRIGHT.
THERE'S A MOTION BY SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI WOULD YOU BRIEFLY
LIKE TO CLOSE I RESPECTFULLY AK
YOUR IDOL PERFECT.
ALRIGHT FALL DEBATE HAVING
CEASED OF THANK YOU MISTER
MCTAGGART THANK EVERYONE WHO'S
HERE WE WILL TAKE A VOTE NOW
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
AND THE MOTION IS.
PURSUANT TO SENATE RULE TWENTY
NINE TEN THAT THE MEASURE BE RE
REFER TO APPROPRIATIONS.
PURSUANT TO JOINT RULE TEN POINT
FIVE MEANING WE WILL BE
EXPEDITING THIS --
IF IT SHOULD PASS PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL.
JACKSON AYE JACKSON AYE MORLOCK
[inaudible]
ANDERSON.
HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG AYE
MONNING AYE MONNING AYE STERN
AYE STERN AYE WIECKOWSKI AYE
WIECKOWSKI AYE. FIVE TWO ZERO A
WE WILL HOLD THE RULE FOR OPEN
FOR HER SENATOR ANDERSON SHOULD
HE DECIDE TO VOTE AND WITH THAT
THANK YOU GENTLEMAN --
THANK YOU. FOR THAT MATTER IS
CONCLUDED FOR TODAY.
CAN A CLIPART CLEAR THE ROOM
SHOULD TAKE A COUPLE MOMENTS TO
CLEAR THE ROOM [inaudible] ONE
SIZE MAYES.
IN ARE SPECIAL ORDER IS.
ANOTHER SIMPLE ITEM. ONE WOULD
MEAN FILE ITEM.
SEVEN AB [inaudible]
EIGHT THIRTEEN NDA
[inaudible]
MORNING SHAKE YOUR WILLINGNESS.
TO TAKE THIS OUT OF ORDER.
THIS IS FILE ITEM.
SEVEN AB EIGHT THIRTEEN AND
AGAIN -- TO
SPEAKERS TWO MINUTES EACH AND
SUPPORT TWO MINUTES --
AKERS IN OPPOSITION.
AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED
[inaudible]
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR --
BY YOU KNOW WHAT LET'S HOLD ON A
MINUTE I DIDN'T REALIZE SIR
BUNCH PEOPLE WAITING TO COME IN
ON THIS MATTER.
SO LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY A MOMENT
TO TAKE A SEAT [inaudible]
NEVERTHELESS.
IT WOULD ONLY MATCHED IT WITH WE
COORDINATE.
SENATOR THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT GOOD MORNING SO THIS IS --
AB EIGHT THIRTEEN
REGIONALIZATION.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF FIRST OF ALL LET ME
TO SAY THAT I'M GONNA TAKE IT AS
A POSITIVE SIGN THAT YOU AND MY
CHIEF CONSULTANT ARE WEARING.
THE SAME COLORS.
COORDINATING AND NOT FOR THE
ASSUMPTION IS VALID BUT HE HAS A
GOOD CHOICE AND COLORS THERE YOU
GO.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME 2% ASSEMBLY BILL
A THIRTEEN A BILL. TO PROVIDE
MANY BENEFITS OF PROTECTIONS TO
CALIFORNIA'S CREATED AND
RATEPAYERS.
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY
SUCCESSFUL IN ITS QUEST FOR
CARBON FREE AND RENEWABLE
ELECTRIC GRID.
BUT TO ME MORE AGGRESSIVE GOALS
THAT WILL TAKE A BROADER MIX OF
CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY AND
RENEWABLES.
NOT JUST THE TYPE OF POWER BUT
THE TIMING AND AVAILABILITY OF
ELECTRICITY IS KEY TO CALIFORNIA
SUCCESS.
WHO ELECTRICITY ACROSS THE
WESTERN US THIRTY EIGHT BALLOTS
IN AUTHORITIES SUCH AS SELLING
EXTRA SOLAR RESULTS IN THE
ASSESSMENT OF TRANSITION CHARGES?
TRANSMISSION CHARGES EVERYTIME
THE POWER MOVES ACROSS THE LINES
OF A DIFFERENT BALLOTS IN
AUTHORITY OR TRANSMISSION OWNER.
WHICH DRIVES COSTS TO RATEPAYERS.
MOREOVER THE FRACTURED
MANAGEMENT OF THE TH BY THE
THIRTY EIGHT DIFFERENT BALLOTS
IN AUTHORITIES IMPEDES THE
SHARING OF ELECTRIC.
HOW RESOURCES ACROSS THE STATES
WHICH WOULD HELP MANAGE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELECTRICITY?
MOST OF WHICHHAVE VERY
GENERATION CHARACTERISTICS MORE
EFFICIENTLY.
EXPANDING BECAUSE OF THOSE
PARTICIPATING TRANSMISSION
OWNERS A CASE OF BALLOTS IN
AUTHORITIES.
WILL ALLOW ELECTRICITY TO BE
TRADED MORE EFFICIENTLY ACROSS
THE WEST THROUGH CHRIST THOSE
MARKETS AS MORE OF THOSE THIRTY
SEVEN BALLOTS IN AUTHORITIES
JOIN AND WITHOUT LAYERING OF
MULTIPLE TRANSMISSION CHARGES.
THIS WILL FACILITATE TRANSITION
TRANSACTIONS SUCH AS EXPORTING
ON USE RENEWABLE POWER LIKE
SOLAR.
THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND
IMPORTING POWER IN THE EVENING
TO ME CALIFORNIA STEVE RAP AS
THE SUN GOES DOWN.
THE GUY SO WE ALSO FACILITATE
THE EFFICIENT PLANNING OF
TRANSMISSION LINES ACROSS THE
PARTICIPATING TRANSMISSION
OWNERS. TO MINIMIZE NEW
TRANSMISSION LINES AND COSTS.
THE GUY SO REPORTS THAT SEVERAL
OTHER BALLOTS IN AUTHORITIES
HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN
JOINING KIND SO BUT MUST SEE A
STATUTORY CHANGE.
AN APPOINTMENT OF ITS GOVERNING
BOARD TO FACILITATE THE
FORMATION OF LEAVE LEADERSHIP
THAT BALANCES THE POLICIES.
OF ALL PARTICIPATING BALANCING
AUTHORITIES.
AB EIGHT THIRTEEN ANSWERS THAT
ANY RTO INCLUDING THE CHI SO.
WHICH A CALIFORNIA TRANSMISSION
OWNER TELL SELLER OR PO YOU
JOINS AT HERE'S TO CALIFORNIA'S
GHG PROTOCOLS OPEN MEETING.
OUR AND RECORDS STANDARDS AND
STATE PROCUREMENT DECISIONS.
HANNITY THAT CHOOSES TO JOIN AN
RTO WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT
THE ART T. O. GOVERNING
DOCUMENTS TO THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
HEARING AT AFFIRMATION THAT THE
DOCUMENTS REFLECT CALIFORNIA'S.
AS A PROTECTIVE FEATURE IF A
TRANSMISSION OWNER RETAIL SELLER
REPEAL YOU FOUND ITSELF IN AN
RTO THAT DEPARTED.
FROM THOSE STANDARDS AND
PROTOCOLS THERE WOULD BE
REQUIRED TO WITHDRAW.
THE BILL ALSO FACILITATES
EXPANSION OF THE SKY SO TO
EXPAND ITS MEMBERSHIP TO INCLUDE
OTHER BALANCING AUTHORITIES
ACROSS THE WESTERN STATES.
SPECIFICALLY IF THE CHI SO
SHOWED COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPEN.
OPERATING STANDARDS AND
PROTOCOLS DESCRIBED ABOVE.
AND THOSE ARE CONFIRMED TO BE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH CALIFORNIA LAW
BY THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION.
AND THE CHI SO REPORTED AN
AGREEMENT WITH ONE OR MORE
BALLOTS IN AUTHORITIES TO JOIN
THE CHI SO.
THAT A WESTERN STATES COMMITTEE
OF THE CHI SO WOULD BE CREATED
WITH THREE APPOINTMENTS BY THE
GOVERNOR AND CONFIRMED BY THE
SENATE.
THE CURRENT BOARD OF CHI SOBRE A
BOARD OF GOVERNORS WOULD BE
SUSPENDED.
THE BENEFITS OF AB EIGHT
THIRTEEN WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IN
BROAD IMPACT A FEW EXAMPLES
INCLUDE.
REDUCE RATES FOR CUSTOMERS
ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE OF A
MORE EFFICIENT DAY AHEAD UNIT
COMMITMENT AND DISPATCH OF
RESOURCES.
REDUCED RESERVE REQUIREMENTS
RESULTING IN FEWER UNNECESSARY
FOSSIL PLAN POWER PLANTS BEING
BUILT.
SMOOTHER INTEGRATION OF
INCREASING RENEWABLE RESOURCES
TO DO MORE STE DIVERSE SUPPLY
BOTH TECHNOLOGICALLY AND
GEOGRAPHICALLY.
BETTER REGIONAL TRANSMISSION
PLANNING AND ELIMINATION OF
UNNECESSARY.
PANCAKED TRANSMISSION RATES.
AND IMPROVE GHG TRACKING.
WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE'S AND
ORGANIZATIONS CONCERNED ABOUT
HIGH SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO FOR
JURISDICTION.
LET ME REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE
CHI SO IT'S BEEN UNDER FOR A
JURISDICTION SENSES FORMATION
THE LATE NINETEEN NINETIES. FOR
BECAUSE APPROVED CALIFORNIA'S
EXISTING TARIFF WHICH INCLUDES
ACCOUNTING FOR THE PRICE OF
CARBON FOR ANY FOSSIL FUELS
DELIVERED TO CALIFORNIA.
LITIGATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
WHICH HAS CHALLENGE STATE
PROCUREMENT HAS HISTORICALLY
BEEN BASED ON PARTICIPATION
CAPACITY MARKETS.
WHICH WE RESTRICT. FOR BECAUSE
FIVE MEMBERS FOR APPOINTED BY.
TRUMP.
IT MAY BURKE REPRESENTED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FILED AND
A MAKE UP AMICUS BRIEFS FILED IN
THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT COURT OF
APPEALS CONCERN IN ILLINOIS ZERO
EMISSIONS CREDIT PROGRAM.
THE BRIEF CLEARLY SIGNALS THAT
THIS FOR IS OF THE OPINION THAT
IT'S AUTHORITY IS LIMITED UNDER
THE FEDERAL POWER ACT.
THE COMMISSION DOES NOT INTEND
TO COULD ASSERT THAT ITS
AUTHORITY OVER WHOLESALE POWER
MARKETS AND PREAMP STAY CLEAN
ENERGY PROGRAMS WERE PROCUREMENT
HAS TARGETED.
PAT THE ATTRIBUTE AT AT AT AN
ATTRIBUTE.
OF GENERATION RESOURCES
[inaudible]
REGARDING COAL.
IT'S ALREADY COMING INTO
CALIFORNIA EVERYDAY.
ITS MASCOT SYSTEM POWER FOR AS
THE CAR TURNS IT.
ON SPECIFIED [inaudible]
SOURCES.
MARKETEERS OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA
GATHER UP SURPLUS.
RESOURCES AND BIT INTO OUR
MARKET.
IT DOES COULD GET TAGGED WITH
THE CARBON ADDER BUT THAT PRICE
TAG IS LOWER BECAUSE IT'S MIXED
AND I'M KNOWN SOURCES OF
ELECTRICITY.
IF THE I SO HAD MORE LINES UNDER
ITS DISPATCH WOULD BE ABLE TO
SEE WHICH GENERATORS ARE
DISPATCHING.
AND IF IT IS COAL IT WOULD BE
TAGGED WITH A HIGHER CARBON
ADDER WHICH WOULD HELP PUSH.
PUSH IT OFF MARKET.
REGARDING THE ENERGY CRISIS.
I TOO AM SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE.
I WAS ON THE PASADENA CITY
COUNCIL WHICH HAS A PUBLICLY
OWNED UTILITY DURING THE ENERGY
CRISIS AND AND ALMOST TOOK A
STEP.
BUT THE ENERGY CRISIS WAS ABOUT
GENERATORS HAVING CONTROL OF THE
MARKET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE
THE SUFFICIENT CONTRACTS FOR
RESOURCES.
CALIFORNIA HAS RELY CALIFORNIA
WAS RELYING ON SHORT TERM
CONTRACTS WHICH GAVE THE
GENERATORS TOO MUCH CONTROL.
IT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF THE AYE SO.
SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE INSTITUTED
REQUIREMENTS ON THE I USE CCA'S
AND DIRECT ACCESS COMPANIES TO
ACQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE
SUFFICIENT RESOURCES UNDER
CONTRACT. TO KEEP CONTROL OF
GENERATION AND TO KEEP THE
LIGHTS ON THOSE CONTRACTS AND
DECISIONS WOULD CONTINUE UNDER
EXPANDED AYE SO PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE WE DO NOT ALLOW.
CAPACITY MARKETS.
BUT YEAH I THE E. IBM AS AN
ALTERNATIVE.
IT HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE.
IT HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE MARKET
FOR THE LAST MINUTE.
SURPLUS IS ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE
ENTITIES PARTICULAR PO USE THAT
DO NOT WANT TO JOIN AYE SO.
IT WILL CONTINUE.
HOWEVER IT HAS LIMITS.
IT'S RANDOM IT ONLY MANAGES LAST
MINUTE OR LAST FIVE MINUTES
SURPLUS POWER.
IT ONLY WORKS IF IN THE LAST
FIVE MINUTES THERE'S A BUYER.
BUT SELLER AND AVAILABLE
TRANSMISSION.
SO IT IS NOT RELIABLE.
BUT LACKS THE COMPREHENSIVE
TENURE PLANNING OF TRANSMISSION.
NEEDS AND BALANCING OF RESOURCES
THAT ARE TO GO OFFERS.
WHY?
BECAUSE THE UTILITIES DO NOT PUT
THEIR TRANSMISSION LINES UNDER
AYE SO MANAGEMENT.
MOST CRITICALLY KID LACKS
COMPREHENSIVE MANAGEMENT
ACCOUNTING FOR JUNE ST TRUCKING.
THE I SO AND A ARE BE HAVE BEEN
WORKING FOR THREE YEARS ON
TRYING TO ESTABLISH A TRACKING
SYSTEM.
BECAUSE THE AYE SO DOES NOT
MANAGE THE TRANSMISSION THAT
DOESN'T SEE WHAT GENERATORS.
ARE MOVING POWER.
AND HE I AM IS CAUSING RESOURCE
SHUFFLING AND UNACCOUNTED.
FOR YOU EMISSIONS.
FINALLY THIS BILL REQUIRES THAT
THE I SO BOUNDARIES IN PLACE
TODAY REMAIN FOR PURPOSES OF
COMPLIANCE WITH THE OUR PS.
JOINING ME THIS MORNING --
IS RALPH CAVANAGH WITH IN OUR DC.
LARA NAVARRO WITH THE MEDIA.
AND JOHN WILLING OFF OUR FORMER
F. FOR COMMISSIONER WHO CAN BE
MADE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
PARTICULAR QUESTIONS.
ON THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT.
AS WELL AS KEY POLICY
REPRESENTATIVES FROM AYE SO
SHOULD THE COMMITTEE CHOOSE TO
ASK QUESTIONS OF THE ICE.
AND I'VE WITHOUT I RESPECTFULLY
ASK WE ARE GOING THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WITNESSES TWO MINUTES. TO
WITNESS THANK YOU GOOD MORNING
MADAM CHAIR GOOD MORNING
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS LAURA
NAVARRO I'M WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL THE FANS.
WE AND SPECIFICALLY I HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR NEARLY
THE PAST THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE IN IT.
AND ITS IMPORTANCE IN CEMENTING
CALIFORNIA'S LEADERSHIP AND
CLEAN ENERGY NOT ONLY IN
CALIFORNIA.
BUT ACROSS THE WESTERN STATES --
THIS IS BECAUSE IT ENABLES US TO
USE MORE CLEAN ENERGY MORE
RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY IN
CALIFORNIA --
SO THAT WE CAN BE ARE CLEAN
ENERGY AND RENEWABLE GOALS IT
ALLOWS US TO DO A BETTER JOB
WITH RENEWABLE BALANCING AND
INTEGRATIONS WERE BETTER ABLE TO
USE THE RENEWABLES THAT WE HAVE.
IT ALSO HELPS US TAKE DIRTIER OF
RESOURCES OFF THE GRID IN OTHER
STATES AND THIS IS BECAUSE
RENEWABLES ARE LESS EXPENSIVE
THEIR NOBLES WE HAVE IN
CALIFORNIA ARE LESS EXPENSIVE
AND WILL BE CHOSEN MORE OFTEN BY
THE MARKET.
THAT DIRTIER RESOURCES LIKE COAL
WORRIED ABOUT THAT --
ASSEMBLYMAN HOLDEN ALLUDED TO
THE FACT THAT WE WILL HAVE
TRACKING ABILITY TO BETTER TRACK
THE RESOURCES FROM I AM SORRY
THAT GHGS THE GREENHOUSE GASES
FROM RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING
INTO CALIFORNIA THAN WE HAVE NOW --
AND LASTLY ON THE ITEM OF
CALIFORNIA'S LEADERSHIP WE'RE
GONNA HOPE THE STATE'S
TRANSITION THEIR CLEAN ENERGY
RESOURCES.
TRANSITION THERE RESOURCES TO
CLEANER ENERGY RESOURCE SAYS
THROUGH ENTREPRENEURSHIP BECAUSE
THEY WILL BE BETTER ABLE.
TO AND INTERESTED IN SELLING
CLEAN RESOURCES INTO CALIFORNIA
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART THE
MARKET THAT DOES NOT EXIST NOW
OR NOT SO MUCH TODAY.
THE SECOND REASON EDF IS SO
INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS POLICY
MOVE FORWARD AS IT WILL HELP
LOWER COSTS FOR RATEPAYERS --
THIS IS BECAUSE IT ENABLES US TO
USE LESS FOSSIL FUELS IT IN
CALIFORNIA.
THAT MEANS LESS ACOSTA RECENT.
TO RATEPAYERS JUDAH FOSSIL FUEL
USE IN CALIFORNIA ENABLES US USE
MORE CLEAN ENERGY RENEWABLES AND
DISTRIBUTED RESOURCE SAYS --
WHICH ARE HAVE A LOWER COST
THREE PAIRS.
AND LASTLY --
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL
ENHANCE RELIABILITY IN
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE
RESOURCES TO CHOOSE FROM WE WILL
HAVE MORE RESEARCH STATUES FROM
ACROSS A WIDER BALANCING
AUTHORITY.
THIS MEANS OTHER STATES WHEN
THEY HAVE THE WIND BLOWING THE
SUN SHINING OR THE WATER RUNNING
WE WILL BE ABLE TO RELY IN THOSE
RESOURCES.
BEGIN THAT REDUCES FOSSIL FUELS
IN CALIFORNIA BUT ALSO ENHANCES
OUR RELIABILITY AND ENABLES US
TO TRANSITION TO A CLEANER GRADE
WITH FEWER HANGUPS FIX YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU MIX WITH.
MADAM CHAIR SENATORS SO I'M
RALPH CABANA I'VE BEEN AN
ATTORNEY FOR THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL SINCE
NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE AND SINCE
NINETEEN NINETY FIVE I CHAIRED
THE PUBLIC INTEREST COMMUNITIES
INITIATIVE FOR SUSTAINABLE.
FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY
COMMISSION.
THAT EXPERIENCE INFORMS AN RTC
STRONG SUPPORT FOR ENHANCED
WESTERN GRID INTEGRATION UNDER
AB.
EIGHT THIRTEEN NOW YOU WILL HEAR
FROM OPPONENTS THAT THIS BILL
WILL OPEN CALIFORNIA TO NEW
FEDERAL REGULATION AN INCREASED
LIKELIHOOD OF FEDERAL
INTERFERENCE.
THESE ARGUMENTS REST ON THE
ASSUMPTION THAT MEMBERSHIP IN A
MULTI STATE TRANSMISSION
ORGANIZATION WOULD BE DANGEROUS
FOR CALIFORNIA.
BUT SENATORS WHAT THOSE CRITICS
REALLY NEED IS A TIME MACHINE.
THE CALIFORNIA I SO HAS BEEN A
MULTISTATE TRANSMISSION
ORGANIZATION SINCE ITS CREATION
MORE THAN TWENTY YEARS AGO.
SUBJECT TO FULL REGULATION BY
THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY.
FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THAT
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN INTERCONNECT
WITH A GIANT TRANSMISSION GRID
LOOKING FOURTEEN WESTERN STATES
TWO CANADIAN PROVINCES IN
NORTHERN MEXICO.
IN A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT
LAST YEAR THE YALE LAW SCHOOLS
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION CLINIC
REVIEWED THAT HISTORY.
AND CONCLUDED IN AN EXHAUSTIVE
REPORT THAT ENHANCE WESTERN GRID
INTEGRATION UNDER AN EXPANDED
CALIFORNIA I SO WOULD NOT EXPOSE
CALIFORNIA TO ADDITIONAL LEGAL
RISKS.
NOW WE NEED TO DO MUCH BETTER
THAN JUST AVOID ADDITIONAL RISKS
THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU IS WHETHER
CALIFORNIA SHOULD LEAD IN
COORDINATING A BADLY FRAGMENTED
WESTERN GRID SO IT CAN BE USED
MORE EFFICIENTLY TO REDUCE COSTS
AND POLLUTION.
AND IMPROVE RELIABILITY.
IN AUTHORIZING THAT TRANSITION
AB EIGHT THIRTEEN ADD SAFEGUARDS
MISSING FROM THE LOS NOW
GOVERNING CHI SO TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY AND CLIMATE
LEADERSHIP ALONG WITH THE OTHER
TRADITIONAL REGULATORY
AUTHORITIES OF OUR STATE.
AND OTHER WESTERN STATES WHO MAY
JOIN THE REGIONAL TRANSMISSION
ORGANIZATION.
INCLUDING AN UNCONDITIONAL RIGHT
OF EXIT FROM THE ORGANIZATION IF
IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS AND
GOALS OF OUR PARTICIPANTS IN OUR
STATE.
SOME THINK A GOVERNOR APPOINTED
BOARD PROTECTS CALIFORNIA WHEN
IN FACT IT ISOLATES US AND
PREVENTS OUR RESIDENTS FROM
ACHIEVING THE BENEFITS OF FULL
WESTERN GRID INTEGRATION.
AND NONE OF THE OTHER SIX U. S.
BASED REGIONAL TRANSMISSION
ORGANIZATIONS HAS A GOVERNOR
APPOINTED BOARD INCLUDING NEW
YORK SINGLE STATE BY SO.
MADAM CHAIR THIS.
BILL HAS CREE. TO ENTER THE SIS
FRIENDS IN ORGANIZED LABOR I SAY
THAT I KNOW YOU AREN'T SATISFIED
WITH THE BILL'S RECENTLY ADDED
PROVISIONS ON RENEWABLE ENERGY
PROCUREMENT.
WELL WE DON'T LIKE THEM EITHER
LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO REPLACE
THEM WITH SOMETHING BETTER THEY
CAN THANK YOU THANK YOU THAT
MADAM CHAIR.
MY APOLOGIES WE GOT SIXTEEN
BILLS LEFT TO FEAR AND HERE TEN
THIRTY IN THE MORNING SO MY
APOLOGIES I'M TRYING.
TO IF WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE
BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT
APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IF
YOU'D STEP UP TO THE MIKE AND
GIVE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION.
WE THE JURY MEMBERS TELLING
HUNTER ON BEHALF THE SOLAR
ENERGY INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANK.
THANK YOU JAZZ BY THE JOKES WITH
THE INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS --
WE SUPPORT THE MENTAL
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
SEN BECKER LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
EMILY PAPPUS NAY MORE PAPPAS
ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF CAL CCA
AS WELL STEM [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
SAID SMELL OF WITH FOOD SOLAR
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
AND B. SHIRAI ON BEHALF OF OF
DANCE AND ADVANCED ENERGY
ECONOMY HERE IN SPORTS THANK YOU.
WE A SILVERTHORNE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
LARA WAS LENIENT CONCERNED
SCIENTISTS IN SUPPORT WOULD ALSO
LIKE TO SEE THE BUCKET AMENDMENT
COME OUT THE THANK YOU.
PAYMENT EVERY FOR MINOR BAKING
THE POWER IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
PETER MILLER WITHIN ACTUALLY
SERVES DEFENSE COUNSEL IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ATTY ON A BRIGHT LINE DEFENSE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
JOHN WILEY WELL ENOUGH WITH GOOD
POLICY INK ND WITH THE NEVADA
ENERGY CHOICE INITIATIVE IN
SUPPORT THINK IS.
BASIC RALLY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
AYE SO IN SUPPORT [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION FEW
WOULD STEP FORWARD TO WITNESSES
COMMUNITY EACH GOING TO HAVE.
TO JUST NOT A VERY BIG PGA.
AND FOR YOU. TO ONE TO SEE IF.
KAMALA TEACHER IF YOU WOULD.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS MATT
FRIEDMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
UTILITY REFORM NETWORK WE VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE THE STAFF
ANALYSIS OF THIS BILL AND WE
HOPE THAT ALL MEMBERS WILL READ
IT -- BEFORE
VOTING THIS BILL IS NOT ABOUT
WHETHER CALIFORNIA IS GOING TO
BE ABLE TO MEET ITS LOW CARBON
AND CLEAN ENERGY GOALS AND IT'S
NOT ABOUT CALIFORNIA'S
LEADERSHIP.
CALIFORNIA IS ALREADY PART OF A
REGIONAL MARKET AND TRADING IN
THE POWER MARKETS HAPPENS IN
EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY HOUR OF
EVERY DAY BETWEEN ENTITIES IN
CALIFORNIA.
AND THROUGHOUT THE WEST.
THE QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER WE
SHOULD ENGAGE IN BETTER REGIONAL
COORDINATION.
BUT HOW THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT
OPTIONS FOR CALIFORNIA TO ENGAGE
WITH ITS PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE
WEST.
THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU IN
AB THREE EIGHT THIRTEEN TODAY IS
SIMPLY ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS.
AND UNDER THIS OPTION YOUR BEING
ASKED TO CONSIDER THE STATE
WOULD GIVE UP ANY MEANINGFUL
CONTROL OVER THE CALIFORNIA ISO
AND YOUR ROLE AS ELECTED
OFFICIALS WOULD BECOME EXTREMELY
MARGINALIZED.
IN EFFECT YOU DON'T MATTER
ANYMORE ONCE THE ISO EXPANDS AND
BILLS PASSED BY THIS LEGISLATURE
BECOME RELATIVELY TRIVIAL FOR
PURPOSES OF UNDERSTANDING HOW
CALIFORNIA IS GOING TO ENGAGE IN
THE REGIONAL MARKET.
BECAUSE THE I SO WOULD BE FREE
FROM ANY CONTROL BY THE STATE.
TOM THERE ARE KEY DETAILS THAT
ARE MISSING FROM HOW THIS
PROPOSAL WOULD BE ACTUALLY
IMPLEMENTED.
WHAT'S THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE
GOVERNANCE WE'VE HEARD TALK
ABOUT A WESTERN STATES COMMITTEE
WITH THREE MEMBERS FROM
CALIFORNIA WHAT WILL WITH THIS
PLATE WHAT'S NOT THE GOVERNING
BOARD.
SOME PROPOSALS WILL BE
CONSIDERED AND YES CALIFORNIA
MIGHT HAVE THREE MEMBERS AND THE
STATE OF MONTANA UTAH AND
WYOMING THAT HAVE ABOUT ONE
TENTH OF OUR POPULATION COMBINED
WOULD HAVE NINE MEMBERS.
IS THAT LOOK LIKE A GOVERNANCE
STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO
PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S INTERESTS
AND AGAIN THAT COMMITTEE DOESN'T
EVEN HAVE A MEANINGFUL ROLE IN
THE RUNNING OF THE I SO.
ALL OF THESE DETAILS INCLUDING
HOW GREENHOUSE GASES WILL BE
REGULATED HOW WE'RE GONNA DEAL
WITH PRESERVING THE OUR PS
PROGRAM.
THESE ARE ALL ISSUES THAT WOULD
BE DECIDED AFTER THE LEGISLATURE
VOTES AND THERE'S NO CHANCE TO
COME BACK FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF
CONSIDERATION BY THIS BODY.
WHY WOULD THE LEGISLATURE AGREE
TO GIVE UP THEIR AUTHORITY TO
SUCH A GREAT EXTENT?
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PROBLEM
HERE IS THAT THERE IS NO RIGHT
OF RETURN.
THERE WAS A MENTION BY ONE
SUPPORT WITNESSES THAT
CALIFORNIA COULD ALWAYS LEAVE
THE REGIONAL ISO IF THINGS DON'T
WORK OUT.
THIS IS A MATH THE GOVERNMENT'S
TODAY IN PLACE FOR THE AYE SO IS
A PRODUCT OF STATE LEGISLATION
THAT WAS UPHELD THROUGH THE
FEDERAL COURTS TO DC CIRCUIT
UPHELD CALIFORNIA'S RIGHT BUT AT
THE SAME TIME SAID.
FURK YOU CAN'T GO AND CHANGE THE
AYE ESOS GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE
BUT YOU CAN REFUSE TO CERTIFY
ANY NEW I SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE
THEIR GOVERNANCE AND THAT IS
SOMETHING.
THAT THE AUTHOR HAS NOT WORKED
OUT AND SO I WANNA LEAVE THE
COMMITTEE WITH THE IDEA THAT.
THERE IS NO RIGHT OF RETURN WE
CAN'T GO HOME IF THINGS DON'T
WORK OUT.
THE KINKS SIX WITNESS PLEASE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MARK
JOSEPH ON BEHALF OF THE
COALITION OF CALIFORNIA UTILITY
EMPLOYEES. SEVEN YEARS AGO IN
THIS LEGISLATURE PASSED THE RPF.
A LEGISLATION ADOPTING A 33%
GOAL.
HE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO BE
SURE THAT WHEN YOU FLIPPED A
SWITCH AND YOU'RE REALLY GETTING
RENEWABLE ENERGY.
YOU ARE NOT GETTING A PIECE OF
PAPER WHICH SAID SOME ENERGY
WITH GENERATED SOMEWHERE
SOMEPLACE.
THE LEGISLATURE CREATED THE
PRODUCT CONTENT CATEGORY SYSTEM
WHICH IS KNOWN IN THE JARGON IS
THE POCKET SYSTEM.
THE EFFECT IS THAT MOST OF THE
ENERGY.
AND TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL
BENEFITS THE AIR QUALITY
BENEFITS THE PUBLIC HEALTH
BENEFITS.
AND THE JOBS ALL HAPPEN IN
CALIFORNIA.
NO AS PART OF THE STUDIES THAT
WERE MANDATED BY THE US BY SP.
THREE FIFTY TO EXAMINE WHAT WHAT
HAPPENED A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION
THE I SO STUDIED.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
AND ACCORDING TO THE ISO STUDIES
AND THE SERGEANTS PASSED OF THE
THE MOST IMPORTANT CHART IN
THERE.
ACCORDING TO THE STUDIES.
REGIONAL RISING WHILE LOSING THE
POCKET SYSTEM WOULD COST ONE
HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND
CALIFORNIA JOBS OR THE PERIOD.
TWENTY TWENTY I THINK. TWENTY
THIRTY HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND
JOBS.
NOW.
THE AUTHOR MAKES AN ATTEMPT TO
PRESERVE THE BUCKET SYSTEM IN
THE BILL WE APPRECIATE THE
EFFORT.
BUT IT'S APPEARS WITH THE
DETAILS MATTER IF THERE ARE
THREE WAYS THAT RING RENEWABLE
ENERGY QUALIFIES AS BEING FOR
POCKET.
ONE FIRST IS THE FIRST POINT
BEEN A CONNECTION IS WITH THE I
SO.
IN THE PRESERVE THE FOOTPRINT
THE ISO.
THAT PART OF SUCCESSFUL BUT
THERE ARE TWO OTHER WAYS OF THE
BILL DOES NOT ADDRESS AND THAT
WILL OPENTHE FLOODGATES IT'LL
BE A JAILBREAK.
AND WE WILL NOT SEE THE AIR
QUALITY BENEFITS THE PUBLIC
HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THE JOBS IN
CALIFORNIA IF THIS BILL PASSES.
THE POINT HERE IS NOT JUST THE
JOBS IT'S NOT JUST THE AIR
QUALITY BENEFITS NOT JUST THE
PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFITS.
THE USER THIS IS UST ONE
CATEGORY OF MANY ISSUES.
MY COLLEAGUE MET FREMONT
IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE OTHERS WE
COULD GO ON FOR A LONG TIME YOU
DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO
ALL OF THEM.
THE REAL POINT HERE IS THIS BILL
IS NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME THIS
IS NOT READY.
FOR VOTING OUT OF THE SECOND AND
LAST POLICY COMMITTEE IN THE
SECOND HOUSE.
WHERE IF THIS BILL WERE TO PASS?
THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU GET TO
VOTE ON IMPORTANT ENERGY POLICY
AFFECTING THE AYE SO THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ARE.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
IF YOU TO STEP FORWARD PLEASE
NAME AFFILIATIONS CAN YOUNG
MALES ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN
WIND ENERGY ASSOCIATION AND
OPPOSITION TO THE JUNE TWELFTH
WHICH ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN
CURRENT POLICY THANK YOU.
PATRICK WELL TO THE CALIFORNIA
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION
WERE OPPOSED TO THE BILL THANK
YOU.
MIKE MATTER CONSUMER WATCHDOG
THIS IS A BAD IDEA TWENTY TWO
YEARS AGO IT'S WORSE WHEN PLAY
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.%
VAN RAINY.
I'M HAPPILY EAST BAY CAN CLEAN
POWER ALLIANCE AND THE
CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR
COMMUNITY ENERGY IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU.
LIKE MONEY GOING TO BE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
ELECTRICAL WORKERS A CALIFORNIA
STATE PATRICK COUNSEL THE
WESTERN STATES COUNCIL OF SHEET
METAL WORKERS.
OPPOSITION THINKING.
THE MODEL HAVE THE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC POWER
AUTHORITY IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS GREG COOK
SIMILARLY CALIFORNIA POWER
AGENCY IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
REBECCA MARKETS REPRESENTING
FOOD AND WATER WATCH IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
MONNING MICHAEL GARY AFTER THREE
YEARS OF INTENSE INVESTIGATION
OF THE PROCESS AND OPPOSITION
WHAT WHAT'S YOUR AFFILIATIONS --
INSURANCE AND YOU THINK.
MANUEL MARTINEZ ON BEHALF OF THE
RATEPAYERS OF THE IMPERIAL
IRRIGATION DISTRICT IN STRONG
OPPOSITION THANK THANK YOU.
MANAGER MEMBER SCIETY AS WE
HAVE THE STATE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL IN
STRONG OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS CAITLIN VEGA
FOR THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION ALSO HERE IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR REBEKAH DASS BAXTER
ON BEHALF OF IMERIAL COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OPPOSE
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
MORNING CAO JONES IS HERE CALL
CALIFORNIA ALSO IN OPPOSITION
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
THE OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MORE GUARD ALTERNATIVE STRATEGY
GROUP ON BEHALF THE
COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA
DISTRICT NINE IN OPPOSITION
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT WELL UMPHREY BRING IT
BACK TO THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BUT
I HAVE TO TELL YOU I WAS HERE --
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN TWENTY YEARS
AGO BUT WHEN WE WERE --
DEALING WITH THE ENERGY CRISIS
AND AT THAT POINT TIME IT WAS
THE SPOT MARKET WE AN BOUGHT
ENOUGH ENERGY BUT WHAT OUR BIG
PROBLEM WAS HIS WE COULD NOT GET
ANY HELP.
FROM A OR ANY RELIEF FROM THE
FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY
COMMISSION WHICH AT THAT TIME
WAS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF A
PRESIDENT WHO WAS --
OSTENSIBLY FAR MORE.
OF AND RESPONSIVE TO CALIFORNIA
GUINEY BILL CLINTON.
AND I RECALL WHEN THE GOVERNOR
ATTEMPTED TO GET SOME HELP AND
OF WE WERE BASICALLY.
TOLD TO GO POUND SAND SO FORTY
BILLION DOLLARS LATER.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA --
FOUND ITSELF AND WE STILL I
THINK STILL PAYING OFF THE BONDS
PRESENTED TO THIS DAY SO.
I OPERATE ON THE THEORY THAT
FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU FOOL
ME TWICE SHAME ON ME AND I AM
TRUST AND I'D LIKE A RESPONSE TO
THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT --
THAT THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE
MADE [inaudible]
AND WHAT.
THE CASE LAW WHICH I THINK --
STAFF SO --
APTLY AND EFFECTIVELY ANALYZED A
PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR
INDEPENDENCE IS THE FACT THAT IN
UP. TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR WE
WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE DC
CIRCUIT COURT TO ENSURE THAT WE
COULD MAINTAIN OUR UNIQUE
LEGISLATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH
CAL I SO.
AND SINCE THEN THE CAL I SO HAS
BEEN AN IMPORTANT PLAYER IN
FACILITATING OUR STATE
LEADERSHIP IN RENEWABLES --
AND I HAVE EXPERIENCES ALL
WITHIN MY OWN DISTRICT THAT
CONFIRM THAT BUT IT IS.
US SO CRITICAL IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT PROTECTION
AGAINST AN ADMINISTRATION THAT
HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO DOING
EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO UNDERMINE
THE VALUES IN THE STATE IN OUR
ENERGY PRINCIPLES IN PARTICULAR.
SO -- AYE A
AND AND I WILL TELL YOU UNLESS I
CAN BE PERSUADED THAT A WE ARE
NOT GOING TO BE AT THE
UNMITIGATED ERCY OF THE FOR
WHICH MADE TODAY MAYBE TODAY HAS
BEEN CONSISTENT.
BUT AND AND INDICATED WE HAVE
CERTAIN RIGHTS BUT WE KNOW THAT
THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT
WILL STOP IT THAT VERY LITTLE.
TO ACHIEVE ITS OWN GOALSARE
OPENING UP FEDERAL WATERS FOR
EXAMPLE TO OFFSHORE DRILLING ON
THE FEDERAL CO SIGN IT.
THE NO I THE REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENT BETWEEN I THINK WAS
RONALD REAGAN AND TODAY HAD
AGREED TO DO I HAVE NO
CONFIDENCE THAT --
WE HAVE --
THAT.
IF THIS CAL I SO BECOMES
REGIONALIZED AND FOR FOR THE
REASONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY
EXPRESSED SO.
I WOULD TO ASK USER WHO CAN YOU
RESPOND TO THAT WITH ASSURANCES
THAT -- THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS NOT GOING
TO FIND ITSELF YET AGAIN WITH
ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS
AND THINGS YOU'RE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH I THINK WE ALL HERE.
RELEASE MOST OF US HERE AGREE
WITH THE GOALS.
THE CONCERN IS THAT IF WE LOSE
THIS ONE LAST LAYER PROTECTION
THAT WE ARE GOING TO FIND
OURSELVES --
HAVING SPENT AND THE YEARS AND
DECADES ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA TRYING TO CREATE AN
AND RENEWABLE ENERGY FUTURE THAT
WILL BE OF THIS CHARADE SO IF
SOMEONE CAN.
RESPOND TO THAT IS MY ISSUE AND
THEN OPEN IT UP FOR OTHERS.
IN THE CENTER OF IT MISTRAL
THANK YOU.
SENATE RIGHT I DON'T THINK I
YIELD TO ANYBODY IN MY
COMMITMENT TO THOSE VALUES AND
AS TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
UNDER THE SEE SUING ON AVERAGE
ONCE EVERY TEN DAYS.
ARE THE REASON WE'RE SO STRONGLY
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL SENATOR
IS THAT ON THE ISSUE OF FOR
TRIBULATION.
NOTHING CHANGES AS A RESULT OF
THIS BILL WERE IN A MULTI STATE
TRANSMISSION ORGANIZATION TODAY
WILL BE IN ONE TWO MORO WHAT
CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THIS BILL
IS MORE SAFEGUARDS.
MORE SAFEGUARDS TO ENSURE THE
CALIFORNIA POLICIES CLIMATE
LEADERSHIP ARE PROTECTED
CALIFORNIA'S CARBON MARKET WORKS.
AND OF COURSE THE UNCONDITIONAL
RIGHT OF EXIT NONE OF THAT'S
INSTANCE STATE LAW NOW WE'RE NOT
EXPOSING OURSELVES TO ANYTHING
NEW THAT WAS THE CONCLUSION OF
THE YIELD CLINIC ON
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION STUDY
THAT I CITED AT THE OUTSET.
AND I WE WE AGREE WITH IT.
OKAY WELL IF THERE'S SOME REAL
CONCERN ABOUT THAT STUDIES I
UNDERSTAND COULD I HAVE THE
OPPOSITION RESPOND TO THAT AND
THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE
ELSE.
TO CONSIST IS REALLY.
OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN.
OF GREAT CONCERN TO MAKE.
A MATTER CHAIR MATT FREEMAN ON
BEHALF OF TURN BY YOU KNOW I
DISAGREE WITH MR FAN AS ANALYSIS
ON SEVERAL FRONTS FIRST OF ALL
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE EXPANSION
OF THE I SO WOULD INCREASE THE
LIKELIHOOD.
OF SUCCESSFUL FEDERAL PREEMPTION
CHALLENGES OF STATE POLICIES AND
WE THINK THAT THE CURRENT
STRUCTURE DOES PROVIDE
CALIFORNIA WITH A LAYER OF
PROTECTION IN THE FORM OF THE
BOARD APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR
AND CONFIRMED BY THE STATE
SENATE.
I'M WE ALSO BELIEVE HAVING%
LOOKED AT THE CASE LAW FROM
AROUND TH UNITED STATES WHERE
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHALLENGES
THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
THAT COURTS LOOK DIFFERENTLY AT
INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATORS
THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE STATUS
TAKING ACTIONS THAT MAY
FRUSTRATE THE DESIGN OF THE
MARKET OR WHERE THE MARKET
DESIGN ITSELF.
BECOMES A PRODUCT OF MULTI STATE
COLLABORATION OR INITIATIVES
PUSHED BY OTHER PARTS OF THE
REGION.
ON BURKE RECENTLY DID FILE A
BRIEF.
AND THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT THAT THE
AUTHOR MENTIONED --
AND HE SUGGESTED THAT FORKS
CONCLUSION WAS THAT STATE
POLICIES ARE PROTECTED.
AGAINST FEDERAL INTERVENTION AND
AND THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT THE
BRIEF SAID.
ON THE BRIEF SAID THAT THEY'D
WANT THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT THE
STRIKE DOWNILLINOIS' PARTICULAR
LAW.
BUT THAT FOR ITSELF RESERVE THE
AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER
OR NOT STATE POLICIES WERE
PERMISSIBLE AND SPUR ITSELF
RESERVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE
HOW TO RESTRUCTURE WHOLESALE
MARKETS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT
STATE POLICIES WERE DISTORTING
MARKET OUTCOMES IN THE WHOLE
EMPHASIS.
IN THE NEW FOR IN THIS TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN TO LOOK
AT WAYS TO PROMOTE FOSSIL FUELS
THROUGH MARKETS TO UNWIND MAYBE
PREFERENCES THAT STATE POLICIES
HAVE PROVIDED.
STAND BY OPENING UP THESE
MARKETS TO INCLUDE FOR EXAMPLE
ALL OF THE COAL PLANTS IN THE
WESTERN UNITED STATES WE HAVE WE
WOULD BE PROVIDING THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULD LITERALLY A
ROADMAP. FOR HOW TO HARD WIRE
SUBSIDIES IN A REGIONAL MARKET
TO THESE DIRTY GENERATORS THAT
WOULD BE PAID FOR BY CALIFORNIA
CONSUMERS AND THEY CAN'T DO THAT
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE TODAY WE DON'T
HAVE THE DIRTY GENERATORS WITHIN
THE ISO.
BY EXPANDING WE BRING THEM IN
AND WE PROVIDE LITERALLY A
ROADMAP [inaudible]
THANK YOU [inaudible]
QUETIONS [inaudible]
SENATOR STIR.
SENATOR ANDERSON FEW DIFFERENT
ARTS CENTER.
LARA SENATOR ANDERSON LEGAL.
SO -- THREE
THINGS THAT POPPED UP IN AYE.
HOPING YOU CAN GIVE ME CLARITY
ON IT SO WHEN THERE'S WHERE.
IN THIS NEW ORGANIZATION.
ARE FOR THOSE SURROUNDING STATES.
WOULD WE BE FINANCIALLY THEN
RESPONSIBLE FOR UPGRADING THEIR
THEIR CREATED OR DEVELOPING
THEIR GRADE. FOR THE FUTURE
MARKETS I MEAN WE HAVE SOME THE
STATES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY
LOOKING AT OURS SIGNIFICANTLY
SMALLER THAN WE ARE.
SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK.
SENATOR THE E. PRINCIPAL PURPOSE
OF ENHANCED GRID INTEGRATION IS
TO REDUCE COSTS BY USING THE
SYSTEM WE HAVE MORE EFFICIENTLY
SO WE NEED LESS TRANSMISSION.
LA IN BY ENSURING THAT WHEN WE
PLAY IN REGIONALLY WE OPTIMIZE
ACROSS AN ENTIRE FOURTEEN STATE
REGION AND DON'T AS WE NOW WE
HAVE IT'S LIKE WE HAVE A SINGLE
INTEGRATED GRID THAT WITH THIRTY
EIGHT MASTERS. THIRTY EIGHT
DRIVERS IT'S THE MOST HIGHLY
FRAGMENTED GRID IN NORTH AMERICA.
ON THE ISSUE OF COST ALLOCATION
THE PRINCIPLE THAT'S FOLLOWED OF
THE FEDERAL POWER ACT IS THAT
THE BENEFICIARIES PAY.
WE DON'T BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR
OTHER STATES BECAUSE WE PAY THE
COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH.
MAINTAINING RELIABILITY IN
DELIVERING BENEFITS TO OUR
SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S A WELL ESTABLISHED
PRINCIPLE WHICH IS ALL ALSO
COVERED IN THE STATUTE.
THERE'S A REAFFIRMATION OF THE
COST CAUSATION AND OTHER
PROTECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY
FEATURE THE FEDERAL POWER ACT.
BUT WE'RE PART OF ANY GREAT
AGREED NOW WERE INVOLVED IN
MULTI STATE QUICKLY AND NOW
WE'RE JUST DOING IT VERY
INEFFICIENTLY AND UNNECESSARY
COST.
AND THEN --
SO.
IT IS I UNDERSTAND UNDER THE
CURRENT --
HOSTED CURRENTLY THE GOVERNMENT
CAN NEGOTIATE DEALS WITH OTHER
STATES BUT IT COMES BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE.
AND WE RATIFY IT IS ACT.
I DON'T SERVING UTILITIES I
APOLOGIZE FOR FOR NOT FULLY
UNDERSTANDING THIS FROM CHRONIC
GET MY ARMS AROUND IT.
AND IF IT SENATOR THE WHAT THE
STATUTE PROVIDES IS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD BE AUTHORING
AUTHORIZING A TRANSITION TO A
FULLY INDEPENDENT BOARD --
THE BOARD WOULD BE IF HE KEPT
THE CALIFORNIA AYE SO NOW HAS A
BOARD APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR
OF CALIFORNIA.
THE TRANSITION WOULD RESULT IN A
FULLY INDEPENDENT BOARD.
AND THAT'S THE MAJOR THING THE
BILL DOES HE DOESN'T ESTABLISH
THE TERMS UNDER WHICH REGIONAL
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM WOULD
ULTIMATELY IS ALSO NOT THE
ANSWER THEN IS THAT WE THAT IT
WOULD NOT COME BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE THAT BE COMPLETELY
INDEPENDENT WE WOULD LOSE OUR
OVERSIGHT IS THAT RIGHT.
WE AT LEAST MAYBE YOU'D BE
AUTHORED YOU HAVE THE DECISION
TO MAKE AS TO WHETHER TO
AUTHORIZE A TRANSITION TO A
FULLY INDEPENDENT SHORT AND THEN
YOU CAN PULL THE UTILITIES OUT.
SENATOR IF FOR SOME REASON
YOU'RE DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY
THE SYSTEM OPERATE THERE'S A
DISPUTE AS TO WHETHER WE COULD
PULL THE MODERN NOT SO.
THIRD QUESTION AND THEN --
MAKE THAT.
FOR IF THE CURRENT BUT THE
CURRENT BOARD WHAT THE THE
FUTURE BOARD.
THAT WHAT THE STATUTE DRIVE
ESTABLISHES ISN'T THE FUTURE
BOARD WOULD BE FULLY INDEPENDENT.
WOULD HAVE NO CONNECTION TO ANY
MARKET PARTICIPANTS IT WOULD NOT
BE A POLITICAL TO POLITICAL
APPOINTEES.
IT WOULD BE A BOARD OF DIVERSE
EXPERTS WHICH IS HOW THE OTHER
BOARDS OF THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATORS ELSEWHERE IN NORTH
AMERICA OPERATE.
YEAH BUT HOW DO WE DETERMINE
THAT GET ON THE BOARD AND WHAT'S
TO MAKE BUT THE BORDER PRESERVES
HER EVERY STATE GETS THREE
TELLING US OR AYE ARTISTS WORK.
THE THAT THAT'S THERE IS IS
THERE ARE STATE THERE'S A STATE
COMMITTEE THAT REPRESENTS THE
INTERESTS OF THE STATE'S BUT THE
BOARD ITSELF WOULD BE FULLY
INDEPENDENT NO GOVERNORS WOULD
APPOINT ANY OF THEM.
SO WE WOULD LOSE THAT
JURISDICTION I THINK THIS IT'S
IT CREATES AN INDEPENDENT WHERE
THEY COME FROM AYE WOULD STILL
HAVE DIFFERENT LIKELY.
THEY COME FROM DIFFERENT STATES.
SO THEY JUST WALK IN AND SAY
HERE I'M ON THE BOARD.
OF ICE TO HARSH AND I KNOW THAT
THEY ARE TO OUR THEY POINTED IN
THIS LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR A
PLAN TO BE FILED WITH THE ENERGY
COMMISSION TO DO THAT AS A
PRACTICAL MATTER WILL BE
OVERSEEN BY YOUR EXISTING BOARD.
THE BOARD OF THE CALIFORNIA AYE
SO THAT YOU CONFIRM.
THAT WOULD OVERSEE THAT PROCESS
RECOMMEND MEMBERS A PLANE WOULD
BE FILE FOR NEAR BUT NOT FOR
OTHER STATES BILLY RECOMMENDED
THE FULL BOARD.
ALRIGHT LET'S SEE IF IF IF ITEM
FUSING ROOMMATE LET ME IF I
COULD VERY BRIEFLY ON EVERY.
DAY I THINK BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT POINT AD BECAUSE THE
AYE SO IS THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT
IN THE MIDDLE I THINK YOU'RE YOU.
SERVED HERE QUESTION I HAVE YOUR
QUESTION ANSWERED AND IF WE CAN
HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MY SO
JUST MAKE A BRIEF RESPONSE
EMIGRATE WOULD BE OKAY THROUGH
THE CHAIR GET INSIGHTS WE GET AN
ANSWER CHEST THAT THE QUESTION
IS WHO'S GOING TO CONTROL IT IS
THE QUESTION WHO CONTROLS.
THIS INDEPENDENT AYE SO I WONDER
HOW THOSE NEW BOARD MET CHO ON A
HOW MANY ORDER NUMBERS HOW BIG
THE BOARD IS AND I WANT TO KNOW.
WHO GETS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD
AND HOW DO WE SELECT ANSWER THAT
YES THAT SEEKS TO CROWLEY THE
CALIFORNIA IS SO FOR THE RECORD?
THAT PROCESS WOULD BE DETERMINED
THROUGH A PUBLIC FOUND
STAKEHOLDER INITIATIVE SO WE
WOULD GO THROUGH --
THAT A PROCESS OF DETERMINING
HOW THAT BOARD WOULD BE SELECTED.
AT NIGHT AS WE STAND NOW WE DID
SOME EXERCISES BACK IN --
TWENTY FIFTEEN TO TWENTY SIXTEEN
THROUGH THE CDC THROUGH OPEN
WORKSHOPS AND THE PROPOSAL --
FOR THAT WAS NOT FINALIZED BUT
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A
NOMINATING COMMITTEE.
OF STAKEHOLDER REPRESENTATIVES
THAT OF BY THE COLLECTOR SLATE
OF CANDIDATES.
THOSE CANDIDATES WOULD BE THEN
APPROVED BY --
SOMETHING LIKE THE WESTERNSTATES COMMITTEE AND THOSE THAT
WOULD HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF
STATES ON THAT COMMITTEE.
THIS IS NOT FINALIZED WE WOULD
AGAIN GO THROUGH A PUBLIC
PROCESS TO DETERMINE THAT.
SO THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW
YET.
OKAY SORRY I NEXT SET OF
QUESTIONS SENATOR ME MANAGER IF
I COULD JUST FINISH FOR ST I
HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE.
TO PRESENT.
I'M SUPPORTING IT TODAY BUT I DO
HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE
ACTUAL PHYSICAL PROCESS.
THINKING.
ANY OTHER A PART SENATOR STERN
AND THEN FOCUS CENTER MORE LOOKS
UNDERSTOOD OKAY THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR --
WHEN WE GET SOME CLARITY ON THE
RECORD I KNOW THERE WAS?
SIR TWO TWO TENSION POINTS ABOUT
ONE AROUND I SHOULD SAY THREE
JOB LOSS IN JUST.
TO A QUESTION ABOUT THAT --
WHEN THE LITTLE MORE INFORMATION?
pTHE STATE OF SORT OF PRECEDENT
JUDICIALLY ON STATES ABILITY TO
TO GOVERN THEMSELVES AS WONDER
IF WE COULD HAVE A COMMENT ON
THAT TABLE AND ENERGY MARKETING
CASE BECAUSE I THINK THE THE
FINAL POINT OF JUSTICE
GINSBURG'S OPINION IS IMPORTANT
FOR ALL OF US TO SORT UNDERSTAND --
AND THEN FINALLY THE JUST A
LITTLE COMMENT FROM THE AUTHOR
ABOUT --
WHETHER THERE IS ANY PRECEDENT
FOR A STATE EXITING MULTI STATE
I SUPPOSE AND SORT OF HOW THAT'S
GOING IF.
IF IN FACT OUR WORST FEARS
MATERIALIZE SORT OF I I HEARD
THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW IT'S SORT
OF UNPRECEDENTED WERE BOUND TO
IT BUT HE DIDN'T WHAT WHAT DOES
EXIT LOOK LIKE.
AND AND COULD WE HAVE ON THE JOB
LOSS THOUGH WHO THERE WAS
SOMEONE WHO --
ON BEHALF OF EXCLUSIVELY SPOKE
ON THAT ISSUE SO LET'S ALSO
INVITE I REALIZE WE GET A SMALL
TABLE BUT LET'S INVITE.
BOTH SIDES TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND
TO THAT.
SO WHEN THE JOB LOSS DO YOU HAVE
A RESPONSE.
THANK YOU OUR MANAGER AND AND
SENATOR.
YOU KNOW AS WE'VE.
NO THAT THROUGH --
SP THREE FIFTY OF THERE WAS A
STUDY DONE TO DETERMINE
FEASIBILITY PART OF WHAT WAS
EVALUATED UNDER THAT.
A STUDY WAS OF THE IMPACT ON
JOBS WHOSE ACTUALLY SHOWS JOB
GAINS.
NOW AS IT RELATES TO THE LABOR
IBEW WORKERS THERE'S CONCERN
THERE WAS ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT
THE IMPACT ON THE TH THE BUCKETS.
HOW WE ARE I I RECOGNIZE THAT
THAT WAS A A POINT OF CONCERN
SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING --
THIS IS NOT.
COULD HAVE VERY IF YOU KNOW IF
YOU TAKE A LITTLE BLOOD OFF A
ONE SIDED ADDED TO THE OTHER
THEN THE STILL STRUGGLING FOR A
BALLOTS.
ARE WE PUT IN LANGUAGES TO
ADDRESS THE BUCKETS --
AND BY DOING SO WE LOST A GOOD
DEAL OF SUPPORT. TO THIS BILL
FROM OUT OF STATE WHEN AND IF
FROM OTHERS --
BUT I THINK IT WAS --
IT WAS IMPORTANT --
ISSUE TO TRY TO ADDRESS AND WE
DID OUR BEST TO DO THAT.
ARE. TO GO AS FAR AS LABOR IS
NOW.
WOULD LIKE US TO GO [inaudible]
WOULD BASICALLY.
THE IN THE BILL I MEAN IT WOULD
JUST.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE
TO PROCEED --
AS IT'S CURRENTLY STATED THAT
WHAT THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH
SO WE DID OUR BEST TO TRY TO
CREATE AS MUCH BALLOTS AS WE
COULD AND BE RESPECTFUL AND
RESPONSIVE TO THE ISSUE THE
BUCKETS CAME INTO ONE RESPONDENT
ON THE QUESTION JOB LOSS.
THANK YOU MARK JOSEPH ON BEHALF
OF THE COALITION CALIFORNIA TO
EMPLOYEES --
EP HAVE THE CHAIR IN FRONT OF
YOU WE DIDN'T MAKE THESE NUMBERS
UP THE TO THE AYE ESOS NUMBERS.
AND THE EYES OF NUMBERS SHOW TEN
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SOLAR
CONSTRUCTION JOB LOST BOSS EACH
YEAR.
FROM.
TWENTY TWENTY THREE TWENTY
THIRTY WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORS
OF THE AUTHOR THE AUTHOR --
INTENDED TO PICK A MIDDLE
PATHWAY UNFORTUNATELY BY PICKING
IN MIDDLE PATHWAY YOU COVER ONE
OF THE WAYS TO QUALIFY AS BUCKET.
ONE BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE STILL
WIDE OPEN AND WHAT WE WILL SEE
WHAT THE I SO HAS TOLD US
[inaudible]
IS THAT.
IT WILL ASSUME THAT ALL.
RENEWABLE GENERATION OUTSIDE OF
THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT.
WE'LL BE ASSUMED TO BE DELIVERED
INTO CALIFORNIA AND THEREFORE
QUALIFY AS BUCKET ONE UP TO THE
PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS OF THE
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM.
WHICH THEY HAVE TOLD US.
IS TWELVE THOUSAND MEGAWATTS OF
THE NEXT TWELVE THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS OF GENERATION YOU CAN
KISS IT GOODBYE [inaudible]
THANK YOU --
HIM I AM I RIGHT THAT THERE'S
YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S JOB GAIN
YOUR SAME JOB LOSS IN SECTORS
YOU'RE SAYING JOB GAIN THAT YES
AND IT WILL HAS A THE SAVINGS
THAT WERE ACHIEVING THE SAME AS
THEY WERE TO EVEN AND THEN THE
IN THE SCENARIO THAT WAS
DESCRIBED AS WAS.
HANDED OUT DOES NOT WAS DOT DID
NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE
BUCKET THIS WAS NOT A STUDY THAT.
ARE REFERENCE THE BUCKETS IN A
TO BEGIN WITH SO WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WAS
PRESENTED TO US BY LABOR TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE COULD.
RESPOND ON THE ON THE JOB LEAN
VERY BRIEFLY YES THE JOB GAIN IS
BECAUSE RATE PAYERS ARE PRESUMED
TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE MONEY IN
THEIR POCKET.
AND SO THEY CAN GO TO STARBUCKS
A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN AND
CREATE A FEW MORE JOB TO
STARBUCKS.
THE SOURCE OF THAT SAVINGS IS AN
ASSUMPTION.
AND ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL
BE.
OUR THOUSANDS OF MEGAWATTS OF
WIND ENERGY.
THAT WILL RESULT FROM
REGIONALIZATION.
SOLELY FROM THE FACT OF
REGIONALIZATION AND WHEN YOU
LOOK AT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
STUDY.
THAT.
I GOT YOUR BILL AND I DON'T
NEGATIVE I AM SORRY I KNOW IT
AND TWO EXAMPLES OF BUT SO IS
THAT LEFT.
THE IS STATES THAT LEAD FOOT
STEPS ARE REALLY WANTED LISTINGS
THEIR MIND YOU KNOW HOW TO
CHANGE YOUR MOTHER UTILITIES ARE
TO AYE OR USE THAT LEFT THAT ME
SO THIS IS IN KENTUCKY --
TO AYE OZELL AYE IOUS LEFT IN
THE ME SO BITTER --
ACQUITTAL IT TO OUR CHI SO --
DUKE POWER A ONE A LEFT.
HANDED DO K. E. P. LEFT THE THAT
THEY HAVE NO MY SO.
AND YOU CAN.
YOU CAN S..
THAT'S FRESH DUQUESNE I DO QUE
PICKING UP I CAN I INTERRUPT
REALLY DOESN'T.
OF APPRECIATE THAT.
WE NEED BECAUSE THE PRIOR BILL
THAT WE HEARD WE NEED TO CLOSE
OUT THE ROLE OF THE BILL CAN
ADVANCE --
WE'VE CALLED --
FOR SENATOR ANDERSON HE'S NOT I
DON'T BELIEVE HE'S RETURNED
[inaudible]
A THE CHURCH SECONDS ON THAT
THIS IS ON THE PRIOR BILL.
A BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE
TIME PROBLEMS SO I SHOULD HAVE
CLOSED THE ROLE AT THAT POINT
TIME.
BECAUSE IT IS SO UNUSUAL BUT SO
WHAT I'M GOING TO IS FROM A
CLOSE.
SENATOR ANDERSON IS.
HE'S BEEN CALLED RIGHT NOW I'M
SORRY I THOUGHT YOU NOTING A
BILL -- I'M
GONNA CLOSE THE ROLE OF THE BOTH
OF THEM BILL HAS ENOUGH VOTES TO
GET OUT OF TO GET SIX TO SURVIVE
FIVE VOTER --
FIVE TWO ZERO SO OF PLEASE MAKE
NO WE'RE CLOSING THE ROLE ON
FILE ITEM. THREE SO WHAT WHAT
I'LL DO IS HAVE YOU CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS AND THEY WERE
GOING TO CLOSE THE ROLE
[inaudible]
MORE LOCK [inaudible]
ANDERSON [inaudible]
RIGHT FIVE TWO ZERO THAT BILL IS
AFTER.
MY APOLOGIES.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE DAYS HARD A
LET'S GO BACK ON A ON THIS ITEM --
WE HAD AN ANSWER TO THAT OAK AYE
QUESTION WAS THE THE QUESTION
WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE
ABLE TO OR WHETHER THERES ANY
PRECEDENT WAS AT THE QUESTION
pPRESIDENT --
TO TO BASICALLY --
RETURN TO HAVE A RIGHT OF RETURN
WAS OF THE QUESTION.
OKAY AND WHETHER FOR QUICK HAVE
TO PROVE OUR ABILITY TO WITHDRAW
OUR WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE THE
UNILATERAL AUTHORITY WE SEE IT
IN SECTION Q. IN THE BILL BUT I
JUST WANT TO GET YOUR SENSE LIKE.
SO DOWN TO THIS FOR EVER.
SO DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE COULD
THAT THAT FOR WOULD.
THAT WE COULD DO WILL RETURN
EFFECTIVELY WITHDRAW WITHOUT
FORKS APPROVAL WOULD IT TAKE FOR
EXAMPLE I WOULD LIKE TO START TO
RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION WHICH
IS TO SAY IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY
OFTEN.
BUT STATES REQUIRE THERE I USED
TO PULL OUT OF AYE SO'S ARTIOS
IN THAT'S BECAUSE GENERALLY
SPEAKING.
I SAYS IN OUR HEROES ARE A GOOD
THING AND THEY FUNCTION WELL AND
STATES HAVE NOT WANTED TO PULL
KIND OF SAMPLE OUT HOWEVER THERE
ARE EXAMPLES OF ICE THOSE.
OF IOUS PULLING OUT CHANGING AYE
SO'S IN CHOOSING TO MAKE OTHER
DECISIONS AND GENERALLY SPEAKING
THOSE HAVE GONE WELL I THINK
RALPH COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE
TO THOSE.
BUT ARE GOING TO HAVE YOU DO
THAT.
OPEN RUNNING OUT OF TIME --
IS HERE.
THAT IS A CONCERN.
SO YOU BELIEVE THAT IF WE
DECIDED FOR WHATEVER REASON TO
WITHDRAW THAT WE WOULD BE WE
WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO
SO YEAH THERE'S A PROCESS FOR
DOING THE HARD AND THAT BUT THAT
PROCESS REQUIRES FOR UC'S
PARTICIPATION DOES IT NOT.
WITH ITS OWN ADMINISTRATIVE
SIGNED OFF AND ONE LAST EXAMPLE
SMUD -- LEFT
THE I SO AS WELL AND WHEN DID IT
LEAVE THE AYE SO.
SHORTLY AFTER THE ELECTRICITY
CRISIS SO THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS
AGO UNDER A DIFFERENT ADVOCACY
FOR YOUR SITE OTHER OBJECTS ARE
MORE RECENT RIGHT VERY GOOD --
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SENATOR MORE
LOCK THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR YOU
AROUSED A LOT OF MEMORIES --
WITH TWO THOUSAND TWO WOULD NOT
VERY LESSEN ARCENEAUX AYE.
AYE IT OF BEING THE CHAIRMAN OF
THE CREDITORS COMMITTEE.
WAS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
SO THOSE ARE INTERESTING DAY
WOULDN'T --
WE SAW GOVERNOR TURN A PROBLEM
INTO A MASS AND IT WAS NOT
PLEASANT AT ALL.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT IT WAS THE SPOT
MARKET AND NAMES LIKE IN RIDER
COMING BACK TO MIND YOUR GET
SHIVERS DOWN MY SO ANYWAY.
NOW WE'VE WE ENDED UP BUILDING
POWER PLANTS IN ORANGE COUNTY IN
THE DOWNTOWN CIVIC CENTER AT
JOHN WAYNE AIRPORT JUST.
TO MAKE SURE WE HAD ELECTRICITY
THOUGHT JUST CURIOUS.
I MISTER HOLDEN ARE WEAK
CURRENTLY THAT WITH OUR
RENEWABLE ENERGY TO OTHER STATES
ARE.
ARE THEY PAYING FOR THAT ARE
WEAK.
BEING CHARGED TO SEND IT TO THEM.
WELL I FIGURED COULD IT REALLY
DEPENDS ON THE DAY --
IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S DISCHARGED
BUT I'M.
PROFIT TO AND CENTER YOU'RE
YOU'RE IDENTIFYING A PROBLEM
WITH THE CURRENT FRAGMENTATION
WHICH IS THAT SOMETIMES WE CAN'T
USE ALL THE RENEWABLE ENERGY
THAT WERE PRODUCING CALIFORNIA
AND WE CAN'T PUSH IT OUT TO THE
REST OF THE WEST.
SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT'S
WORSE THAN PAY WE HAVE TO TURN
OFF SOLAR PLANTS AT THE HEIGHT
OF THE SUNSHINE.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS TO DO
THIS IS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A
MUCH BIGGER ARKET THE
CALIFORNIA I ESOS ONLY ABOUT A
QUARTER OF THE GENERATION AND
LOAD IN THE WEST.
HAVING ACCESS TO THAT BIGGER
MARKET MEANS MORE REVENUE FOR
CALIFORNIA AND YOU ARE YOU SURE
THE STATE'S WILL COOPERATE.
CENTER IT'S THAT THERE IS
BASICALLY THEY'RE BEING OFFERED
A CHANCE TO REDUCE THEIR COSTS.
ALMOST EVERYONE COOPERATES IN
ORDER TO DO THAT HAVE THEY HAVE
THEY GIVEN SOME KIND OF A HALF
FORMATION ARE THEY JUST GOING TO
TELL CALIFORNIA.
TAKE A HIKE WE DON'T WANNA TAKE
A NEW KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE HAS
BEEN ARE ACTIVE DISCUSSION
ACROSS THE WEST FOR THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS THERE'S A BROAD
SUPPORT.
AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE
POTENTIAL REGIONAL BUT DON'T GET
GOVERNOR BROWN HE'S SUPPORTIVE
OF THOSE GOVERNOR INSLEE.
WHO HAS WRITTEN TO THE COMMITTEE
[inaudible]
SORRY -- ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS.
OKAY -- WITH
THAT -- THE
POLLEN ATTAIN A MOTION BY
SENATOR WHITE CHO SKI.
THE MOTION IS A DO PASSED THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS --
WELL SAID NOT JUST LET HIM GO
ALL OKAY CLOSE I APOLOGIZE --
ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION TO PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS --
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
WORLD JACKSON NO JACKSON NO MORE
LOCK. FOR LIKE AYE ANDERSON
ANDERSON AYE HERTZBERG
[inaudible]
MONNING.
STERN.
STERN AYE WIECKOWSKI AYE
WIECKOWSKI AYE.
PART THAT BILL HAS FOUR VOTES WE
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN AND TO
I'M GOING TO PASSED THE GAVEL ON
TO MY COLLEAGUE SENATOR MORE
LOCK [inaudible]
AND THE SYSTEM.
IN ONE OF THE I'M GONNA TRY TO
FIGURE THAT ONE OUT GIVE ME JUST
A MOMENT HERE THE NEXT ITEM IS
GOING TO BE --
FILE ITEM.
SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF I'M
SORRY UP FILE ITEM FORTY FIVE
EIGHT BE.
TWENTY SEVEN FORTY
SEVEN NBI.
BACKED BY NEW HOPING
[inaudible]
AFTER.
BUSINESS ALONE.
VERY [inaudible]
I THINK [inaudible]
THANK YOU [inaudible]
THURMOND HOLDEN.
THE FLOOR IS YOURS ON AB.
TWO SEVEN FOUR SEVEN THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR --
I AND MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL. TWENTY FORTY
SEVEN AND I PREACH IT'S YOUR
WORK ON THIS BILL.
THE BILL SEEKS I GIVE COLLEGE
ATHLETES AND MORE TOOLS EFFORT.
TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES FOR
ABUSE AS THEY MAY FACE CAMPUS.
I CONSTANTLY SEE EXAMPLES OF
COLORS TO NATALIE'S DEALING WITH
TODAY.
AB TWENTY SEVEN FORTY SEVEN
SEEKS TO ADDRESS.
PROBLEM IN A NEW WAY BY
EDUCATING AND EQUIPPING.
COLLEGE ATHLETES TO BE BETTER
ADVOCATES SAID. FOR THEMSELVES
AND PROTECTING THEM AS THEY DO
IT TO QUITE --
IT REQUIRE SCHOOLS TO INFORM
STUDENTS OF THEIR RIGHTS AND
PROHIBITS RETALIATION.
BUT ALSO ALLOW SCHOOLS TO CREATE
A DEGREE COMPLETION FUND WHICH
IS A MECHANISM SCHOOLS CAN
CHOOSE TO CREATE.
JUST TO BE CLEAR MY GOAL IS NOT
TO CAUSE AN INSTITUTION TO
VIOLATE INSITU A BY LAWS.
I HAVE ADDED INTO AT LANGUAGE TO
THE BILL TO THAT EFFECT.
THIS PILL IS PERSONAL TO ME I
HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE AND
KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A
COLLEGE ATHLETE.
THESE COLLEGE ATHLETES ARE
PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE LINE
AND RISKING THEIR BODIES FOR
SOME ONE INJURY AWAY FROM LOSING
EVERYTHING.
OTHERS ARE AT RISK OF LOSING IT
ALL FOR SPEAKING OUT FOR THEIR
TEAM OR ANY ABUSES THERE
EXPERIENCING US COLLEGE COACHES
HAVE THE POWER TO KEEP YOU ON OR
OFF THE TEAM.
I APPLAUD ALL SCHOOLS THAT ARE
DOING THE GOOD WORK OF
PROTECTING COLLEGE ATHLETES
HEALTH.
ACADEMIC PROGRESS AND ECONOMIC
FUTURE BUT WE NEED ALL SCHOOLS
TO DO THIS.
THIS BILL IS RECEIVED BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE INSTANTLY.
YEAH.
AND AND THE AMENDMENTS WE'RE
ACCEPTING.
YOU HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
I'M NOT SURE THEY MADE IT OR IF
THEY DID THEY MAY BE STUCK IN
THE HALLWAY BUT RIGHT WILL
INVITE THEM TO COME AT THIS TIME
PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING ANGIE MARTINEZ.
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY WE
HAVE SUPPORTED THE MANY POSITION
ON THE BILL THE AMENDMENT SECOND
DAY SIGNIFICANT ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS.
WE HAVE A FEW MINOR ISSUES LIKE
THE WORKING THE AUTHOR BUT BUT
IN GENERAL WE ARE POSITION OF
THE MEMBERS HAVE FLOODED THE
AUTHOR AND MAY NOT THINK YOU.
TYLER I DO ARE BEHALF OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AN ECO
CS USE COMMENTS I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR.
LEVINE AT THE PLANES HAVE VISION
AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF
THIS AND WILL.
WE TO TALK TO STAFF BUT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T MARROW BEHALF
ASSOCIATION OF INDEPENDENT
CALIFORNIA COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES WE ALSO THINK THE
AUTHOR FOR TAKING A MOMENT SOME
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
OFFICE.
JANET LOPEZ UNIVERSITY OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ONCE AGAIN
IT'S A MEMBER THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK
WITH US SUPPORTED FROM AND IT
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU
AND YOUR STAFF ON THOSE FOR ME
TECHNICAL ISSUES THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.
BOB MILLER FOR STANFORD
UNIVERSITY I'M GOING TO ECHO THE
PREVIOUS COME.
THANK YOU MISTER MILLER.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
PLEASE LINE UP BEHIND THE
MICROPHONE.
MOVE THE BILL.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BILL DO
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY
COLLEAGUES [inaudible]
NO.
YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS.
BOB I RESPECTFULLY ASK HER ABOUT.
ALRIGHT THEN WHAT WE CALL THE
ROLL TO PASS WITH AMENDMENTS. TO
APPROPRIATION REPLACEMENT THANK
YOU [inaudible]
JACKSON.
THE LOCK I MORE LUCK AYE
ANDERSON HERTZBERG [inaudible]
MONNING.
STERN.
WIECKOWSKI AYE WIECKOWSKI AYE.
THANKS TO ZERO AND WILL KEEP THE
ROLE OPEN.
THANK YOU SO HOLDEN.
I THINK THAT TAKES US NOW.
YOU TO PROFESSOR TING.
THIS IS A BE SEVE FORTY EIGHT
ITEMS.
THANK YOU SENATOR YOU'RE ALWAYS --
VERY KIND --
YOU JUST FOR START OFF BY FAKING.
THE CHAIR WHO'S NOT HERE IN THE
COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS FOR ALL
THERE ARE VERY VERY HARD WORK I
KNOW.
THIS IS A TWO YEAR BILL WE'VE
BEEN WORKING --
WITH THIS COMMITTEE FOR FOR
MONTHS THEY WERE HAPPILY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEES
AMENDMENTS ON THE BILL --
WE'VE ALSO ALSO HAD ONGOING DISK
[inaudible]
STAKEHOLDERS.
FOR QUITE AWHILE GOING INTO
RECESS WE HOPE THAT WE BE ABLE.
TO TO REACH A COMPROMISE WE AT
THIS POINT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE.
TO BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE A VERY
REASONABLE POLICY ESPECIALLY IN
COMPARISON TO THE LA --
COMMISSION PLEASE COMMISSION HAS
COME OUT WITH THEIR POLICY UPON.
BUT BODY CAMERAS ARE THE TOOL TO
HAVE GREATER COMMUNITY AND
PUBLIC TRUST WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
YOU USE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE
GREATER TRANSPARENCY THAT THE
PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENS IN A PARTICULAR
SITUATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
CALL ME WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AND
FORTUNE --
THIRD THE FOOTAGE AS I'VE I'VE
I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED WILL
PRIMARILY.
DEMONSTRATE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS ARE DOING THEIR JOB BY
I BELIEVE IN 99% THE TIME THAT'S
WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DEMONSTRATE.
PUBLIC HOWEVER REGARDING FOOTAGE
OF KILLER WE HAVE EEN UNABLE TO
GET FOOTAGE AND MANY MANY CASES.
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HAS JUST
MADE THE DECISION JUST TO
WITHHOLD THE FOOTAGE. TO WHAT WE
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS
ADOPT STATE BY POLICY WHICH
CLEARLY COMMUNICATES.
HOLLOW WHEN BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE
SHOULD BE RELEASED ABOUT WE ARE
SAYING THAT WE ARE ALLOWING
EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY --
TO NOT RELEASE IT FOR FORTY FIVE
DAYS DURING AN INVESTIGATION.
AND THEN THEY CANNOT SUBSEQUENT --
FIFTEEN DAY DELAYS HA BUT I
THINK THE CLEAR POINT IS THE
NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO THE
PUBLIC WHAT IN PARTICULAR.
THEIR REASON IS FOR NOT
WITHHOLDING FOR WITHHOLDING THAT
INFORMATION I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT.
THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS HAVE TO JUSTIFY ó
WHAT PARTICULAR REASON THEY HAVE
OTHER THAN JUST UNDER
INVESTIGATION THAT THEY ARE
WITHHOLDING I THINK IS IMPORTANT
BECAUSE IT AGAIN.
GOING BACK TO THE WHOLE POINT
FOR BODY CAMERAS WAS TO ENSURE
THAT WE AGREE TO PUBLIC TRUST WE
HAVE GREATER TRANSPARENCY.
AND IF YOUR RESPONSE IS JUST
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE WE WANT TO
WITHHOLD IT.
THAT IS REALLY ENGENDER GREATER
TRUST.
WELL WE THINK THAT THIS POLICY
IS VERY REASONABLE POLICY THAT
ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
CONTINUE TO WITHHOLD THE
COVERAGE FILE WHILE PROPERLY TO
SCOLD CLOSING THE REASONS.
BUT THE SAME TIME.
IT ALSO SETS A BASELINE FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE
THICK THIS POINT THERE REALLY IS
A POLICY THAT'S BEEN.
DEVELOPED AT A DEPARTMENT BY THE
DEPARTMENT DOWN SITUATION.
SO AGAIN ALTHOUGH WE HAVE WE
DON'T HAVE.
GINNI CLEAR WE HAVE JIM JIM
JORDAN BUT THE CALIFORNIA
NEWSPAPERS PUBLISHERS
ASSOCIATION --
HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
BILL.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR OF
MEMBERS HOW WE TOO WOULD LIKE TO
THANK GOD SCARS SORRY JIMMY WHAT
WITH A CALIFORNIA NEWS
PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION.
WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK --
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR
WORK ON IN HELPING US CRAFT THIS --
AND IS BE ASSEMBLYMAN SAID ON
THIS BECAUSE PREVENT THE
HODGEPODGE OF POLICY CREATION.
IN THIS ISSUE AREA --
THAT HAS OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE
STATE -- IT
ALLOWS LIMITED ACCESS TO FOOTAGE
UNDER PRETTY NARROW
CIRCUMSTANCES --
AND IT PREVENTS NAM AGENCIES
FROM ABUSING THE INVESTIGATORY
RECORDS EXEMPTION OF THE PUBLIC
RECORDS ACT. TO STONE WALL OR
PREVENT --
TOTAL ACCESS TO DISCLOSURE OF
FOOTAGE.
THAT COULD PROVE TO BE
EMBARRASSING OR HARMFUL TO THE
AGENCY -- IT
IS PATTERNED AFTER THE A LOS
ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY
AND I MIGHT ADD THAT.
IT'S A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY
DEGREES DIFFERENT NOW BECAUSE
UNDER LAPD'S ALL POLICY.
THEY INVOKED THE INVESTIGATORY
RECORDS EXEMPTION FOR EVERY
SINGLE REQUEST FOR BODY CAM OR
VIDEO FOOTAGE --
THAT THEY RECEIVED --
WITHOUT REALLY GOING THROUGH AND
AND LOOKING AT THE FACTS AND
CIRCUMSTANCES IN EACH SITUATION
SO -- THIS
IS THIS IS BASED ON THEIR OWN
RECOGNITION THAT --
IT SHOULD BE DIFFERENT.
IT ALSO BUT AND THE PUBLIC'S
RIGHT TO KNOW --
AND THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE
BILL THAT PROTECT INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARE --
SUBJECT --
SUBJECTS IN THE FOOTAGE --
AND IT ALSO BALANCES --
THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT'S ABILITY TO USE
THE FOOTAGE AS AN INVESTIGATORY
TO WHICH IT IS I MEAN IT IS AN
INVESTIGATORY TOOL --
BUT AS THE ASSEMBLYMAN POINTED
OUT THE PURPOSE BEHIND BY THE
CAMS ORIGINALLY WAS TO PROVIDE
BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE
THINK THAT THIS --
DID WITH THIS DOES THAT.
WITH THE UBIQUITY OF CELL PHONE
CAMERAS --
IT'S ALSO PROVIDES THE AGENCIES
TO PROVIDE THE OFFICIAL RECORD
OF WHAT HAPPENED.
SO THAT --
THERE'S AN ABILITY FOR THE
AGENCY TO WAY HEAD WHEN THERE
ARE WRONG MOTIONS IN A COMMUNITY
OUT COULD YOU [inaudible]
SITUATION --
THE AGENCY CAN RELEASE THE
INFORMATION TO HELP QUELL THAT
AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT
HAPPEN.
HERE IN SACRAMENTO --
WINDOWS FOOTAGE WAS RELEASED OF
WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS TO FUND
CORK INCIDENT --
FLOOD THAT WERE VERY RAW
EMOTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY GET
HELP PREVENT VIOLENCE FROM
HAPPENING.
SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS WE WERE
TERRIBLE THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MR MEMBERS KEVIN BAKER PREMIER
CONSERVE LIBERTIES UNION OF
CALIFORNIA WERE ALSO PLEASED TO
SUPPORT THE BILL.
KNOW THE COMMITTEE HAS A VERY
FULL HEARING TODAY AND THERE'S
MISTER OUT.
MISTER HUBERT ON FOR THE NEWS
PUBLISHERS AND ACROSS THE AUTHOR
BEEN VERY ELOQUENT COM AND
ARTICULATING THE REASONS FOR THE
BILL WE BELIEVE THAT THE BILL'S
AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN.
HE TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY GOALS OF MISTER
TING HIS OUTLINED FOR BODY
CAMERAS WHILE RESPECTING.
PRIVACY AND A WORKABLE APPROACH
IS DEMONSTRATED BY THE POLICIES
IN FACT IN MANY JURISDICTIONS
WE'D ASK YOUR ABOUT.
THANK YOU MISTER BAKER THANK YOU
WISH YOU WERE TO HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
DO I HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION
.
WELCOME RECRUITS FIRST.
RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO MINUTES.
CHAIR MEMBERS JOHN THE FILM OF
THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION WE ARE IN OPPOSITION --
WE THINK THAT.
TAKING WHAT LAPD IS DONE AND
EXPANDING ACROSS THE STATE IS
INHERENTLY PROBLEMATIC
ESPECIALLY FOR THE SMALL
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE FIVE SWORN
OFFICERS SIX ONE OFFICERS.
TAKING POLICY THAT WORKS FOR AN
AGENCY THAT'S THE THIRD LARGEST
IN THE NATION.
JUST BEHIND NEW YORK AND CHICAGO
AND THEN.
EXPECTING THAT TO WORK WELL --
OR BE PRACTICAL FOR IN
DEPARTMENT ONE TENTH ONE HUNDRED
ONE ONE THOUSANDTH THE SIZE IS A
SOMEONE GIVS US A LOT OF
CONCERN.
ABOUT THE BURDEN THAT WE CAN
PLACE ON THOSE AGENCIES --
WE ALSO HEARD ONE OF THE
SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT.
CREATING A CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK
ACROSS THE STATE THIS DOESN'T
ACTUALLY DO THAT IT SAYS THAT
FOR THESE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT
CRITICAL INSTANCES AS DEFINED IN
THE BILL WHICH ARE VERY BROAD.
GO EVERYTHING FROM MINOR POLICY
VIOLATIONS TO W. SUPPORTS
INCIDENTS WOULD SO WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
VASTLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF
SITUATIONS THAT MAY BE TREATED
THE EXACT SAME UNDER THIS BILL.
AND THAT RELEASE POLICIES FROM
THIS ACT WOULD COVER THOSE BUT
WHEN COVER THE OTHER ONE SO YOU
HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF
RELEASE --
PROCEDURES FOR THIS TYPE OF
INFORMATION.
HAVE FOR EACH AGENCY WHICH WOULD
DIFFER AND THEN. FOR THE ONES
THAT ARE DEAD THE RELEASES THAT
ARE NOT COVERED BY THIS BILL
THOSE WHO VERY.
VASTLY FROM AGENCY TO AGENCY
CITY TO CITY BECAUSE CITIES HAVE
DIFFERENT POLICIES IN PLACE
RIGHT NOW FOR THE RELEASE.
SOME CITIES HAVE POLICE
COMMISSION'S A PLAY A ROLE --
SOME DON'T --
BUT THERE IS YOU KNOW THAT DAY
THEY WORK THROUGH THE DA'S
OFFICE BECAUSE THE DA'S ALTMAN
BUT THE ONE IN CHARGE OF FILING
A CRIMINAL FRAUD CHARGES AGAINST
PROSECUTION.
SO THEY PLAY A ROLE IN AND AND
THIS IS.
ALL BEEN WORKED OUT AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL THROUGH AGREEMENTS THAT
HAVE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
LAW ENFORCEMENT MANAGEMENT'S
PERSPECTIVE TO PEEL AWAY PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION THE UNION'S
PERSPECTIVE AND CITY GOVERNMENTS
PERSPECTIVE --
LASTLY --
THE BIGGEST CONCERN HERE IS
BECAUSE PROTECTING AT NON
PREJUDICED.
A CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM SO HE
RELEASES FOOTAGE PRIOR TO
INVESTIGATION BEING COMPLETE OUR
PART TO SOMETHING GOING TO TRIAL
AND EVEN DURING THE TRIAL.
THAT WE'RE CONCERNED THAT
RELEASES INFORMATION THE PUBLIC
CAN PREJUDICE THOSE THOSE SIDE
DELIBERATIONS AND THAT'S OUR
THAT SOME.
MAJOR CONCERN FOR US THAT'S WHY
THE INVESTIGATIVE CAUSES BEEN
THERE FOR THESE PEER REYES.
THAT'S WHY WE INVOKE THEM MOST
OF THE TIME IT'S OUR CONCERN IS
IS FOR PROTECTING.
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND
IMPARTIAL PARTIALITY OF THOSE
DECISIONS PLAN FOR THOSE REASONS
WE ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED.
BRITTLENESS CHAIRING SHERMAN
WITH THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION AND I WANT --
TO THE ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY
MY COLLEAGUE AND ALSO POINT OUT
[inaudible]
THAT -- THIS
BILL AGAIN DOESN'T DO THE
STATEWIDE --
IT DOESN'T ESTABLISH STATEWIDE
STANDARD BECAUSE PLUS SOME
DEPARTMENTS ALLOW --
FOR THE OFFICER TO VIEW THE BODY
CAMERA --
FOOTAGE RIGHT AFTER AND INCIDENT
ANOTHER STONE AND SO WE'RE GOING
TO CONTINUE TO HAVE.
A DISAGREEMENT ON WHETHER THIS
IS A STATEWIDE POLICY ONE SIZE
FITS ALL WE DON'T THINK IT'S
APPROPRIATE AND WE ALSO ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIOMETRIC
SCANNING CUTS ON THEIR TO VOTE
OUT OKAY NEVER MIND --
BUT JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT AND
THE VERSION OF VOTE THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
MUCH FURTHER ANY OTHER WITNESSES
OPPOSITION.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS WHO SHALL MUCH LEARNED
HAVE TO CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION.
ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
LAW ENFORCEMENT --
ASSOCIATION OF RECORD
SUPERVISORS WE ARE THE ONES WHO --
IN FOUR HUNDRED OVER FOR HOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WILL
ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS MEASURE
I'M VERY ARDUOUS TASK FOR ASK
EVERY FIFTEEN DAYS OUT A REQUEST
ARE COMING AND ASKING --
FOR FLOOR AT RETRACTED RECORD SO.
YEAH MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS NOT
USE I REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THE
ASSOCIATION FOR LOS ANGELES
DEPUTY SHERIFFS IN THE LOS
ANGELES POLICE PROTECTIVE LEAGUE
BACK MAKE JUST. ONE POINT BASED
ON THE COMING HOURS ON HIS.
RUTHLESS A MEAN IS THE OTHER
CHAIR THE FAIR ENOUGH.
THERE'S OTHER HEARINGS GOING ON
JOB HAVING SOME FUN BUT NO IT'S
JUST WANT ONE POINT I HAVE SIXTY
BILL FIVE SO I APPRECIATE I
UNDERSTAND COMING TO LIGHT NOW
THERE'S BEN A LOT OF THE HAS
BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE LOS ANGELES HOW PROVIDERS OF
THAT.
I THINK LIKE YOU.
MR MEMBERS RAINY PAIR THE ARENA
SUCH HITS ON HEALTH CALPERS HAS
HAD CHINA RITUAL AND POUR A CAN
OPPOSITION [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
SHAWN HOP IN THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
OPPOSITION THANK YOU ANY FURTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
[inaudible]
ANY COMMENTS FEDERAL CASKET SO
IF I'M READING OF THEM.
THE BILL CORRECTLY WERE ONLY
LIVES BY LIMITING THIS TO THE
USE OF FORCE.
AND THE USE OF FORCE IS IT'S THE
FIND IN THIS BILL SO WHILE WHILE
EVERY JURISDICTION MAY HAPPEN
UNDERSTAND IF YOU SAY FORCE
THERE MAY BE A PRACTICAL --
APPLICATION THAT THIS IS ARE WE
HAVING IF STATE STANDARDS AND
INCLUDE IN THAT IS HITTING
SOMEBODY ON THE HEAD AND
DISCHARGING YOUR WEAPON SO THOSE
ARE.
THOSE ARE NON NEGOTIABLE BUT
THERE MUST BE SOME OTHER PART I
GUESS MY QUESTION IS IS THERE
OTHER USES OF FORCE THAT WOULD
BE CAPTURED IN THIS --
AND THE THE CAMERA SO IS USE OF
FORCE AND IT'S VIOLATION BY AN
OFFICER VIOLATION PLOT POLICY.
REGENCY POLICY A VIOLATION OF
AGENCY LAWLER POLICY BY AN
OFFICER WE DILIGENTLY DO
PHYSICAL AGENCIES AND WHAT THEIR
USE OF FORCE IS IN THAT THEN THE
VIOLATIONS THAT HOW YOU WOULD
[inaudible]
NMO WE DEFINE YOU SUPPORT SAYS
SERIOUS FUNNELING MONEY LIKE
THAT.
AND JUST GET ON WITH SOME OF I'M
WRITTING STAFF THAT WE DEFINE
USE OF A SERIOUS USE OF FORCE AS
A SERIOUS BODILY HARM. FIVE OR
RESULTING IN DEATH.
OKAY SO THAT'S THE NARROW.
THAT'S A NARROW NARROWING A FEW
SPORTS BECAUSE IT'S CONCEIVABLE
THAT YOU COULD USE.
THE FORCE THAT IS NOT.
EACH THE THRESHOLD OF DEATH WILL
HELP.
YOU CAN AND ALSO ON A CREEK.
BUT BUT IT'S DISCONTINUE TO
CLARIFY.
ON MY THINK THEIR IT WAS ALSO --
HOW BROAD GENERALIZATION THAT WE
WERE EXPANDING THE LA POLICY TO
THE ENTIRE STATE THAT THAT IS
NOT ACCURATE THIS POLICY WAS
DEVELOPED PRIOR?
TO LA HOME DEFINING THEIR POWER
I BELIEVE THAT THIS POLICY IS
MORE FLEXIBLE AND BROADER THAN
AN ESSENTIAL IS BECAUSE WE DON'T
HAVE.
A FIRM RELEASE DATE WHICH IS
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN LOS ANGELES
AND WE ALSO HAVE THE AGENCY
CONDUCT THE BALANCING TEST SINCE
NOT EVERY JURISDICTION HAS A
POLICE COMMISSION.
OKAY AND THE OTHER THING IS WE
GET THE AUTOMATIC FORTY FIVE
DAYS THEN THEN YOU IF THE
REQUESTOR WANTS TO HAVE THE
INFORMATION EASTER SAID FIFTEEN
DAY.
AND I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD BUT
THEN BUT AT AT THAT AFTER A
FIFTEEN DAY.
FROM THE TESTIMONY YOU CAN KEEP
COMING IN EVERY FIFTEEN DAY IN
ASKING FOR THE REQUEST. FOR THE
AGENCY COULD SET.
OR YOU SET FORTH THEREIN
JUSTIFICATION OF WHY THEY'RE
WITHHOLDING THIS WITH THAT.
TOO YEAH ARE WHY THE RIVER THAT
WORKED WITH COURTNEY IS FOR
THEIR PRIVACY CAN --
THE PRIVACY CONCERNS SENATOR PAT
THAT ARE --
I DON'T PUTTING PROJECTED A GAS
UNLIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS
AND JUST THERE IS NOT A HARD TO
SET DEADLINE THAT'S WHY.
NOW WE BELIEVE THIS CREATES MORE
FLEXIBILITY FOR AGENCIES BUT AT
THE SAME TIME IT DOES A HOUSE
THAT THE AGENCY COME FORWARD AND
TELL THE PUBLIC WHY THEY ARE
WITHHOLDING THE INFORMATION.
SO AGAIN IT DOESN'T SET A FIRM
DEADLINE FOR RELEASE OF THE
INFORMATION SO SO AGAIN I THINK
IT IS VERY FLEXIBLE FOR SMALLER
DEPARTMENTS FOR SMALLER AGENCIES.
NOMINALLY.
INTERESTED JUST TO POINT OUT.
ON THE SMALL DEPARTMENTS THAT --
THE OPPOSITION'S TALKING ABOUT
THE SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF
HAVING BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE IF AT
SOME POINT IT'S NOT BEING
RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AS A JUST
SOMETHING. FOR AND IT WASN'T
SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED ONLY
FOR INTERNAL INVESTIGATION SO.
AGAIN WE BELIEVE THIS IS VERY
FLEXIBLE MOM I THINK IT'S VERY
REASONABLE WE DON'T HAVE A HARD
DEADLINE BUT WE ARE HOTLY
MANDATING.
THAT THE AGENCY RELEASED THE
FOOTAGE THEY JUST HAVE TO TELL
US THE REASON WHY WHICH I
BELIEVE.
IS BEYOND RESPONSE FROM MISTER
CHAIR THE SO CIVIL IF THERE IS
AN INCIDENT THAT.
IT IS QUITE HEAR THE USES USES
FORCE THEIR CHILDREN THAT ARE
INVOLVED THERE'S OTHER PRIVACY
CONCERNS THIS IS A TRIAL THAT'S
GOING FORWARD THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY HAS SAID I DON'T WANT
THIS GUY --
VIDEO RELEASED BECAUSE IT'S
HIGHLY PREJUDICIAL THEN AND
THERE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
THE BILL BILL SAYS THE YOU GO
FORWARD YOU MAKE A DEFINITIVE
STATEMENT TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE NOT RELEASING THIS NO
MORE FIFTEEN DAYS OR OR THE
FIFTY NUMBER FIFTEEN DAY PERIOD
WE'RE NO.
WE'RE NOT RELEASING THIS BECAUSE
BLAH BLAH BLAH AND THEN WHEN YOU
GO THROUGH YOUR TRIAL AND THAT
THAT IS EXCLUDED FROM THIS BODY
OF VIDEOS THAT COULD BE.
RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC ISN'T
THAT MY AND MY READING THEY'RE
BUILT CORRECTLY CORRECT.
THANK YOU MISTER BUT THAT ALL
MOVED THE BILL CAN AND TO
SENATOR YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY
RESPONSES FROM ANY OTHER PARTIES
ARE YOU FINE OF POCKET THEN WE
HAVE A MOTION --
AS AS IF THEY ARE ANY IN ANY
AMENDMENT YOU'RE ACCEPTED
ACCEPTED THE MEMBERS AND IT GOES
TO APPROACH SO.
KIND OF QUICK IF YOU BECAUSE THE
ROLE [inaudible]
JACKSON.
MORLOCK I BLACK AYE ANDERSON
[inaudible]
HERTZBERG [inaudible]
MONNING.
STERN.
WIECKOWSKI AYE WIECKOWSKI AYE.
TO ZERO AND WILL HOLD THE ROMAN
THANKS VERY MUCH AND I YOU KNOW
THAT IS IN THE US FORTY ONE ARMY.
HD A FORTY ONE TALK IF THINK
YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE ANOTHER BILL I'M SORRY
HIS.
I'M GONNA GO.
SO NUMBER FORTY ONE AB.
TWENTY SIX TWENTY THANK YOU S.
ELEMENT THING IS WEIRD TRYING TO
JUGGLE OF PRETTY BANAL THINGS
HERE.
IN YOUR HEART --
FIRST LET ME JUST START OFF BY
SAYING WE ACCEPT THE COMMITTEES
AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE THE TIME
FRAME TO SEVENTY TWO HOURS AND
OUT OF PURPLE REQUIREMENT.
I AB TWENTY SIX TWENTY HELPS
RENTAL CAR COMPANIES RECOVER
THEIR STOLEN VEHICLES BY
SHORTENING THE WAITING PERIOD TO
TURN ON GPS.TRACKING SYSTEM OF UNFORTUNATE
DID THIS BILL CAME OUT VERY
HIGHLY PUBLICIZED CASE REGARDING
THE REGARDING MY WITNESS I
CIRCULAR GOOD WHO WANT TO SAN
FRANCISCO RENTAL VAN.
COMPANY HE SPOTTED ONE OF THESE
PAST TWO VANS AND TRIED TO PIN
ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO RECOVER.
AND FORTUNATE THEY WERE NOT ABLE
TO A SYSTEM BECAUSE THE WAITING
PERIOD HAD NOT EXPIRED SO I'M
GOING TO TURN OVER TO TO SHARKEY
TO TALK ABOUT AB TWENTY SIX
TWENTY TWO VERY BRIEFLY AND
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE SUPPORT
FOR THIS BILL.
SENATOR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
AND THANK YOU THAT SENATORS
THANK YOU FOR YOUR THAT --
YOUR TIME AND AND FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION --
I STARTED A BAND RENTAL COMPANY
I'M A SO I'M SORRY MY NAME IS A
SHARKEY LOOK ONE A FOR THE
RECORD -- I
AM A WASHED UP MUSICIAN --
WHO STARTED A BAND RENTAL
COMPANY FOR OTHER MUSICIANS --
TO HELP THEM GO ON TOUR --
AND WE HAVE ABOUT FIFTY
EMPLOYEES AND EVERY VEHICLE THAT
WE HAVE IS CRITICAL --
TO SUSTAINING OUR BUSINESS --
WE COMPETE AGAINST MUCH LARGER
COMPANIES.
NOW WE ARE NOT THE ONLY SMALL
RENTAL CAR COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA --
THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF US
ACTUALLY AND WE'RE ALL WORKING
WEIRD LITTLE NICHES LIKE OURS --
WHEN VEHICLES GET STOLEN BECAUSE
DAMAGING FOR US.
AND WE TAKE IT VERY PERSONALLY --
BECAUSE WE COUNT ON EACH AN
EVERY VEHICLE IN ORDER IN ORDER
TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES --
UPON WITH RESPECT TO THIS
VEHICLE IN QUESTION IT HAPPEN TO
POLAND IN FRONT OF ME --
ON THE HIGHWAY PURE RANDOM
CHANCE -- I
WOUND UP --
FOLLOWING AND I TRIED TO GET THE
POLICE TO HELP --
THEY WERE UNABLE TO HELP --
BECAUSE OF CURRENT --
VEHICLE CODE RECORD REGULATIONS
THAT --
PREVENT CARS FROM BEING
EMBEZZLED.
DECLARED A VESSEL TOTES BEEN --
FIVE DAYS PAST THE END OF THE
RENTAL CONTRACT.
I CANNOT USE GPS TRACKING ARE
CURRENTLY --
IF IT DOESN'T MAKE FISCAL SENSE
BECAUSE I CANNOT ACTIVATE GPS
TELL SEVEN DAYS PAST THE END OF
THE RENTAL CONTRACT.
IF IN OUR CASE A RENTAL CONTRACT
IS THIRTY DAYS THEN THEY
BASICALLY GET A THIRTY SEVEN DAY
HEAD START --
SO -- WERE
STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BILL
IT'S A MODEST --
AND PERHAPS INCREMENTAL CHANGE
WE CARE I PERSONALLY CARE DEEPLY
ABOUT CONSUMER PRIVACY.
I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT WHAT CONSUMERS ARE DOING
WHILE THEY HAVE OUR VEHICLE. FOR
ONCE THAT RENTAL AND SYSTEM WE
NEED TO KNOW WHERE THAT.
THE VEHICLE IS SO THANK YOU
[inaudible]
THANK YOU [inaudible]
SHARKEY.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
CONTINUE IS AN OPPOSITION.
BOTH THE BILL.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
BILL.
WITH THE AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOR.
MADAM CLERK IF YOU COULD TAKE
THE ROLE [inaudible]
THE CLOTHES.
I DON'T I'M CLOSE WAS WERE DONE
RIVER COULD PICK.
GO AHEAD I'M SORRY ASSUME AND
TING.
A GOOD SEE BUT IT LEAVES BEHIND
FOR GOOD.
THE MOTION IS DEPRESSED AS
AMENDED TO THE SENATE FLOOR
JACKSON MORLOCK AYE POLACK AYE
ANDERSON HERTZBERG MORNING STERN.
WIECKOWSKI AYE WHAT KATHY I'VE.
TWO VOTES IN WILL HOLD THE ROLE
OPEN.
I HAVE ONE MORE AYE AG OUR
THIRTY SIX ALL LAST BILL IN OUR
LIVESVERY QUICKLY.
AND YOU ARE THIRTY SIX RECOGNIZE
THIS MAY SIXTH TWENTY EIGHTEEN
IS A HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX
ANNIVERSARY THE SIGNING OF THE
CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT ALSO CALLS
UPON THE PRESIDENT TO RESCIND
HIS ANTI IMMIGRANT.
AND ANTI MUSLIM EX EXECUTIVE
ORDERS GIVEN THE SUPREME COURT
DECISION TODAY --
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT ALL THE
CHILDREN WHO UNFORTUNATELY ARE
BEING AYE DETAINED AT THE BORDER
SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS IS
VERY HEARTBREAKING.
I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE
APPROPRIATE TO RECOGNIZE OUR
NUMBER HISTORY OF THE CHINESE
EXCLUSION ACT TODAY THAN EVER
BEFORE I WITH THAT I'VE ENTITLED
MEDINA PUBLICATION AMERICANS
ADVANCING JUSTICE RESPECT FOR US
RIGHT NOW.
I THINK YOU CAN MEMBERS I INJURE
MEDINA COMPANY POLICY MANAGE FOR
AGING MAC THE BETTER TO SCULPT
FORNEY SPEAKING STRONG SUPPORT
OF ITS RESOLUTION.
ELECTED THINK OFFICE LEADERSHIP
IN BRINGING THIS UP --
MOVES ACTUALLY WIDESPREAD ANTI
CHINESE ANTI AND IMMIGRANT
SENTIMENT AT THE TIME THAT YOU
CHECK OUT SUPPORT FOR THE PAST
OF THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT.
CHEVYS AMERICA OR SEEN HIS
FOREIGN INVADERS RACIALLY
INFERIOR CRIMINALS AND CHOPS
DEALERS.
AND THE CHINESE EXCLUSION OF THE
FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY
TO IMMIGRANTS WERE BARRED
BECAUSE OF HER RACE AND CLASS IN
EIGHTEEN EIGHTY TWO WHEN
CONGRESS PASSED THE LAW.
THERE WERE THIRTY NINE THOUSAND
SIX HUNDRED MEN AND WOMEN FROM
CHINA THE RIGHT INTO THE COUNTRY.
THREE YEARS LATER DOES ONLY
TWENTY TWO THAT YEAR --
DEPARTS OF HIS WAS A LIST OF
THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM MISTAKES
FOR PASSED WHEN YOU LOOK AT
TODAY'S RHETORIC.
TARGETING AND IMMIGRANTS IT'S
CRIMINALS --
IS BAD HOMBRES HAS ANIMALS THAT
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH TO
FIGHT AGAINST --
SO IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER THAT
HIS RESOLUTION IS A CLEAR
INDICATOR WE NEED.
TO RECALL THAT WHAT'S THE POINT
FOR US THAT WE DEFENDER FROM US
MORAL POPULATIONS I MOVE THAT WE
SONGS POINT RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR MEDINA
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES
PICTURE.
ASSUME AND TING WHEN YOU COME
AND VISIT US AT OUR HOME WHEN
YOU COME OVER FOR DINNER.
WITH YOUR WIFE AND YOUR
BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS I HAVE A
RULE BOOKS ON THE HISTORY OF
CHINA AND CHINESE AND CALIFORNIA
AND SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE
DOING I'VE I DO HAVE A LITTLE.
TROUBLE WITH ALWAYS BASHING CROP
WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN LAST
YEAR'S THEME.
OF THE LIKE THE CAN TO GET
BEYOND BEYOND THAT BUT TO AS
SOON AS A WE HAVE A SENATOR
WHITECAPS DE HERE IN THE BILL
[inaudible]
WELL.
IT IS WE RIGHT TO KNOW
AMENDMENTS GOING TO THE FLOOR.
LET'S TAKE THE ROLE.
AWAY BECAUSE THE TO CLOSER TO
GIVE ME THE THUMBS UP DISRESPECT
FOR AFRICA.
WHEN YOU HAVE A DINNER
INVITATION?
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT THANK YOU.
THE MOTION IS BE ADOPTED TO THE
SENATE FLOOR JACKSON.
OVERLOCK AYE MORRELL AYE AYE
ANDERSON HERTZBERG [inaudible]
MONNING.
STERN SUPPORT CASTING AYE
WIECKOWSKI AYE.
IF IT'S NOT TOO ZERO WILL HOLD
THAT OPEN AS WELL THANK YOU
CEMENTING [inaudible] FOR
FULFILLMENT BERMAN YOU HAVE.
BEFORE WE ARE TRYING TO GET
THROUGH THE BILLS AND FIFTY
MINUTES BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET
IT DONE BEFORE THE CHAIR RIGHTS.
WELL I WILL BE VERY BRIEF I FAIR
THAT YOU --
MISTER CHAIR AND SENATORS
ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW DOES MISTER
CHAIR OF NO THERE'S IN THE
CENTER ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS
FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND
PREVENTION OR ONE IN THREE WOMEN
AND ONE IN SIX MEN.
EXPERIENCE SEXUAL VIOLENCE AT
SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES MANY
SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS SUFFER
FROM PHYSICAL INJURIES AND
MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS.
THAT PREVENT THEM FROM REGAINING
STABILITY IN THEIR LIVES FOR
SEVERAL YEARS THERE'S ALSO A
SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL COST AFTER
SEXUAL ASSAULT COULD INCREASE
HEALTHCARE NEEDS LOST WAGES AND
LEGAL EXPENSES.
CURRENT LAW ONLY PROVIDES A LINK
HERE STATUE OF LIMITATIONS FOR
CIVIL CLAIMS BASED ON SEXUAL
ASSAULT INTO LIMITED
CIRCUMSTANCES BUT FIRST IS A
CASE OF CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE
AND THE SECOND IS A CASE.
AGAINST THE DEFENDANT WHO HAS
BEEN CONVICTED OF A SPECIFIED
SERIOUS FELONY SUCH AS RAPE.
IN ALL OTHER CASES OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT PLAINTIFFS MUST COMMENCE
A CIVIL ACTION WITHIN TWO YEARS
OF A SEXUAL ASSAULT.
THIS TIME FRAME IS NOT REALISTIC
FOR MANY SEXUAL ASSAULT
SURVIVORS WHO ARE RECOVERING
FROM THE PHYSICAL ANDEMOTIONAL
TRAUMA OF A SEXUAL ASSAULT.
AB SIXTEEN NINETEEN WOULD EXTEND
THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FROM
TWO YEARS TO TEN YEARS FOR THE
RECOVERY OF SOME CIVIL DAMAGES
RELATED TO A SEXUAL ASSAULT
FOREIGN ADULTS PLAINTIFF.
THE BILL WOULD ALSO ALLOW AN
ADULT PLAINTIFFS TO BRING YOU
CLAIM WITHIN THREE YEARS FROM
THE DATE THE PLAINTIFF DISCOVERS
OR REASONABLY SHOULD HAVE
DISCOVERED THAT AN INJURY OR
ILLNESS RESULTED FROM SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
BY DOING SO AB SIXTEEN NINETEEN
RECOGNIZES THE SERIOUSNESS OF
ALL FORMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND
THE ARDUOUS RECOVERY PROCESS
THAT MASSEUSE AFTERWARDS.
AB SIXTEEN NINETEEN MIRRORS
SECTION ONE OF A. B. THIRTY ERA
OF AB THREE THIRTY FOUR COOPER.
WHICH THIS COMMITTEE PASSED LAST
YEAR AND THE AUTHOR IS NO LONGER
MOVING FORWARD.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AYE VOTE
ON AB SIXTEEN NINETEEN AND WITH
ME TODAY IS KIM AND
HILLARY LARKIN ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION.
OF CALIFORNIA SEXUAL ASSAULT
FORENSIC.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY MY
NAME IS KIM WALKER AND I AM A
SEXUAL ASSAULT FORENSIC EXAMINER
AND THE NURSE COORDINATOR FOR
THE FORENSIC EXAM TEAM IN SANTA
CLARA COUNTY.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE
LEADERSHIP FOR CALIPHATES THAT
REPRESENTS FRIENDS EXAMINERS AN
EXAM TEAMS OPERATING IN
CALIFORNIA.
HOUSE IF IS FUNDS DURING A. B.
SIXTEEN NINETEEN BECAUSE IT'S
EXAMINERS WE SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT
PATIENTS EXPERIENCE BOTH
PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY IN
THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT.
THE TIME SURVIVOR NEEDS TO
PROCESS RECOVER AFTER SAW CAN
TAKE MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS
CERTAINLY LONGER THAN THE TWO
YEARS CURRENTLY ALLOWABLE FOR
CIVIL CLAIMS.
SURVIVORS WHO DO ENGAGE THE
LEGAL PROCESS FOCUS FREQUENTLY
ON THEIR CRIMINAL CLAIM FIRST TO
SEE THAT THEIR ATTACKERS
PUNISHED.
IF THEY WAIT FOR THE OUTCOME OF
THIS CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OR
CHILD INITIATE CIVIL PROCEEDINGS.
THEY MAY FIND THE STATUE OF
LIMITATONS FOR THE CIVIL CASES
LONG SINCE RUN.
SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL SO OFTEN
INCUR SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC COST
BOTH IMMEDIATELY AND LONG TERM
RELATED TO POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS.-MEDICAL CARE RELATED PHYSICAL
INJURY LOSS OF WAGES ARE
PROPERTY LOSS.
RECENT STUDIES ESTIMATE THE
AVERAGE LIFETIME COST OF RAPE IS
OF IN EXCESS OF A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS PER
VICTIM IN MY LIFETIME.
GIVEN THESE UNEXPECTED
IMPOSSIBLY CATASTROPHIC COSTLY
FACED THE OPTION TO RECOVER
DAMAGES TO CIVIL COURT IS
CRITICAL.
AND THE LOSS OF THIS OPTION IS
PUNITIVE AND POSSIBLY INJURIES
TO THE SURVIVOR.
BY INCREASING THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS TO TEN YEARS WE CAN
ALLOW SURVIVORS CRITICAL AT A
TIME TO HEAL AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AN AYE VOTE TO ENSURE
THAT CAN HAPPEN.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISS WALKER.
CLAIMS HILLARY LARKIN AND I JUST
WANT TO TELL YOU A QUICK STORY
ABOUT A PATIENT THAT I TOOK CARE
OF AND THE ALAMEDA COUNTY US ARE --
TEAM.
SHE WAS A YOUNG WOMAN.
PART TIME JOB A SOPHOMORE IN
COLLEGE EVERYTHING GOING WELL
UNTIL SHE WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED
BY THE PERSON.
WHO SHE RENTED HER APARTMENT
FROM?
SHE CALLED THE POLICE SHE HAD A
FRIEND THAT MEDICAL EXAM SHE DID
EVERYTHING RIGHT --
FOR A LOT LOTS OF REASONS A
CRIMINAL CASE NEVER TOOK EFFECT
AND IN THE MEANTIME SHE HAD TO
MOVE FROM HER APARTMENT TO LOST
A PART TIME JOB IN CHAD TO
WITHDRAW FROM SCHOOL.
I WANT TO REALIZE THAT THE
CRIMINAL CASE WAS NOT GONNA GET
CHARGED. TWO YEARS HAD PASSED
AND SHE HAD MISSED HER
OPPORTUNITY TO GET ANY C. HOPES
TO HAVE ANY CIVIL RECORDS FOR
HER CASE.
A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF DOING
EVERYTHING RIGHT AND STILL
MISSING THAT DEADLINE SO I WOULD.
I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
ON THIS BILL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FURTHER ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING JOHN FINLEY
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT
SPEAKING IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. TO ANYONE ELSE.
ARE THERE ANY PENALTY.
WHEN EIGHTY SALABAT THE
CALIFORNIA EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT?
QUIETLY ENTRAPMENT BEHALF OF
CONSUMER TURN IS A CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE
[inaudible]
ANYONE.
AND IN OPPOSITION [inaudible]
NFL [inaudible]
ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BILL.
I WILL THIS TIME DRIVE BECAUSE
SHE'S VERY IMPORTANT --
ASSUME BERMAN YOU HAVE ANY
CLOSING COP.
JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK DR THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
IN THE END YOU KNOW AMENDMENTS.
GOING TO OF PROBES.
TAKE THE ROLE.
THE MOTION OF DE PASSED THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS JACKSON.
MORLOCK BY LUCK AYE ANDERSON
HERTZBERG MORNING.
STERN WIECKOWSKI AYE WIECKOWSKI
AYE ZERO WILL KEEP THE ROLE OPEN
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE YOU HAVE ANY OTHER BILLS TO
PRESENT NO SIR PARK I THINK YOU
[inaudible]
OKAY [inaudible]
VERY.
IN THE SIX LOWER FOR ITEM TWELVE
AB SIXTEEN FIFTY FOR MISS RUBIO
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS --
AB SIXTEEN FIFTY FOUR PROVIDES
AN EXCEPTION TO THE CALIFORNIA
PRIMARY ATTORNEY GENERAL ACT OR
PAGA.
WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY
INDUSTRY FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES
THAT ARE COVERED BY A COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENT WHEN THAT
AGREEMENT EXPRESSLY PROVIDES FOR
WHITE WAGES HOURS OF WORK
WORKING CONDITIONS AND PREMIUM%
WE JUST BEFORE THE WAGE RATES
FOR OVERTIME.
UNDER THIS BILL THE THE
AGREEMENT MUST ALSO PROVIDE AN
HOURLY WAGE OF NOT LESS THAN 30%
MORE THAN THE MINIMUM WAGE.
PROVIDES A GRIEVANCE AND BINDING
ARBITRATION OP PROCEDURE TO
REDRESS VIOLATIONS.
FINALLY THE AGREEMENT MUST ALSO
EXPRESSLY WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS
OF CALIFORNIA PARTNER.
IN CLEAR AND UNAMBIGUOUS TERMS
AND AUTHORIZES THE ARBITRATOR TO
OVERREACH ANY AND ALL REMEDIES
OTHERWISE AVAILABLE UNDER THE
CALIFORNIA PARK.
BUT THERE IS A WELL INTENDED LAW
THAT GIVES UNREPRESENTED WORKERS
THE POWER TO FIGHT UNSCRUPULOUS
EMPLOYERS DIRECTLY.
THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM WHEN
THE LABOR.
RESOURCES TO ENFORCE HOWEVER IT
HAS IN MANY CASES RESULTED IN
NUMEROUS COSTLY IN THE NECESSARY
LOSSES.
AB SIXTEEN FIFTY FOUR IS A VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD PROPOSAL THERE
IS IN FACT A PRIVATE DISPUTE
RESOLUTION SYSTEM ALREADY IN
PLACE.
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CAN ALSO
CAN AND DO REGULARLY ADDRESS
LEGAL AND JOB SITE DISPUTES IN
THAT INDUSTRY.
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
ARE FAIR TO WORKERS AND THE
EMPLOYERS BECAUSE THEY ARE
MUTUALLY AGREED UPON PROCESS
WITH A RELATIVE BALANCE OF POWER.
BETWEEN THE EMPLOYEES AND THE
EMPLOYER.
AND ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE
RESOLUTION PROCEDURE HAS ALREADY
BEEN GRANTED BY THIS LEGISLATURE
TO LABOR MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS AND
THE WORKERS COMPENSATION
STATUTES.
AN ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE
RESOLUTION PROCEDURE HAS ALREADY
BEEN GRANTED BY THE LEGISLATURE
TO LABOR MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS I'M
SORRY JUST THAT.
OTHER ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES
GRANTED A TO COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENTS INCLUDE
SICK LEAVE MEAL AND REST PERIODS
OVERTIME AND WORK WEEK
INDICATION TIME REQUIREMENTS.
AB SIXTEEN FIFTY FOUR WILL
FURTHER ENCOURAGE THE RESOLUTION
OF WORKPLACE DISPUTES THROUGH
THE PROCESS OF PRIVATE SECTOR
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND REDUCE
OUR CUMBERSOME COSTLY LITIGATION.
WITH ME TODAY OUR DAILY
DUNKERTON OF THE CARTON
CARPENTERS UNION THE SPONSOR OF
THEM THAT'S MEASURE.
I DON'T SEE CAESAR --
CAESAR DS FROM THE BUILDING
TRADES AND EDDIE BERNACCHI TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU
AND I I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I THINK IF.
AND QUESTION.
THIS WE COULD ALSO HAVE DESMOND
LADY ATTORNEY WHO HELPED US WORK
ON THIS.
PRICES ARE SO YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES EACH OKAY SO --
I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT VERY
BRIEF EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE
THE PRESSURE TO MOVE THIS.
I THINK ALONG THOSE DISSIPATED
DRAMATICALLY.
HAGA IS A VERY POWERFUL BILL
THAT WE SUPPORT AND IT'S
PARTICULARLY USEFUL FOR
UNREPRESENTED WORKERS GIVES THEM
THE ABILITY TO GO DIRECTLY TO
COURT THROUGH CERTAIN PROCEDURES
THEY GET TO GO DIRECTLY TO COURT --
WHAT IT DOES TO AND IT'S AN
UNFORTUNATE SIDE EFFECT IT
ACTUALLY UNDERMINES THE
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
AND OUR ABILITY TO OF CREVE?
AND ARBITRATE DISPUTES BECAUSE
IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR WORKERS WHO
ARE COVERED UNDER COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING TO SENSUALLY.
TAKEN AND RUN AROUND ARBITRATION
WHICH IS HOW WE SOLVE DISPUTES
IN OUR INDUSTRY.
UP IT'S NOT ONLY ALLOWS THEM TO
DO [inaudible]
DO IT --
BECAUSE THEY CAN TAKE --
WITH ONE GRIEVANCE OR ONE
DISPUTE THEY CAN THEN SET UP A
COT THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.
THAT BECOMES VERY COSTLY VERY
TIME CONSUMING --
AND BASICALLY I ENCOURAGE YOU IF
YOU HAVEN'T READ THE SECURITY
PAVING LETTER IN YOUR PACKET.
WHERE A WORKER --
EMPLOYER WAS HIT WITH A LAWSUIT
THAT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO RESOLVE
THE WORKER WAS AWARDED FIFTY
DOLLARS AND THE ATTORNEYS FEES
WERE THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE
THOUSAND DOLLARS.
NO I'M SORRY THE EMPLOYER PAID
OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN
ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS.
ZAPATA IS AN END RUN AROUND
WHAT'S THE NATIONAL OF POLICY --
TO RESOLVED LABOR DISPUTES THE
NLRA SUPREME COURT HAS UPHELD
ARBITRATION AND IT REALLY
UNDERMINES OUR ABILITY TO DO IT --
WHO WE REALLY ENCOURAGE
ESPECIALLY I CENTER MORE LIKE I
THINK THIS WOULD BE TOWARD
SHORES OF PERSPECTIVE A LITTLE
BIT?
IT'S A NATIONALLY STABLES FOR
BIG DECADES AND SIX DECADES FOR
ARBITRATION THIS IS A PRIVATE
FREE MARKET PROCESS THAT GOES
OUTSIDE THE COURT SYSTEM TO
RESOLVE CONTINUOUS DISPUTES IN
THE IN THE LABOR --
WORLD PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION
THAT'S THE WORLD WE WORK FROM.
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PAGA IS
YOU ARE UNDER MY LAW MAYBE%
EIGHTY YEARS OF LAW BY.
BASICALLY MAKING ARBITRATION
IRRELEVANT IT'S NOT WORTH THE
PAPER IT'S ON IF THE WORKER THEN
HAS OKAY PLEASE CLOSE THIS
LOOPHOLE.
THANK YOU THANK YOU DANNY CAESAR.
CHAIRMAN RECESS IDEAS ON BEHALF
OF THE STATE BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL.
POWERS FIRST THE COUNCIL IN OUR
AFFILIATE STRONGLY SUPPORT PAGA.
BALLPARK IS OFTEN THE ONLY
OPTION NON UNION WORKERS HAVE
FOR RESTITUTION OF LOST WAGES
AND TO PROTECT THE WORKERS
RIGHTS UNDER THE LABOR CODE.
ARTILLERY BECAUSE EMPLOYERS
FORCED NON UNION WORKERS TO SIGN
AGREEMENTS THAT GIVE UP THEIR
RIGHTS TO PROCEED ON A CLASS FOR
COLLECTIVE ACTION BASIS.
THIS PARTICULAR BILL WILL
PROVIDE THE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENTS IN THE
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY BETWEEN
SIGNATORY EMPLOYERS.
AND ASSOCIATIONS IN OUR UNIONS.
IF THE PARTY SO CHOOSE.
PROVIDE FOR PROCESSING PAGA
CLAIMS TO THE C. BE A GRIEVANCE
AN ARBITRATION PROCEDURE.
THE CBA WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE
ALL THE VIOLATIONS OF PAGA.
BASICALLY TO HAVE TO BE
REDRESSED THROUGH THAT PROCEDURE.
AND THE ARE IN THAT THE
ARBITRATOR CAN AWARD ANY AND ALL
REMEDIES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE
UNDER PAGA --
LET ME REPEAT THE SAY ALL OTHER
LAWS.
BOBBY STILL AVAILABLE TO WORKERS
THE WORKERS CAN STILL GO TO THE
LABOR COMMISSIONER.
THE THE WORKERS CAN ACTUALLY
STILL ADDRESSING ALL VIOLATIONS
FOR DISCRIMINATION AND SEXUAL
HARASSMENT UNDER FECA AS WELL
THIS DOES NOT TOUCH ANY OF THOSE.
ISSUES.
WHAT THIS IS FOR THIS PROVIDES?
IS BASICALLY AN OPTION. FOR FAR
CONTRACTORS AND OUR UNIONS AND
THEN ACTUALLY RATIFIED.
THROUGH OUR MEMBERS ACTUALLY
VOTING ON THE CONTRACT IF THEY
SO CHOOSE.
SO.
IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE
EXEMPTION APPLIES THERE IS A
PROCESS A FAIR PROCESS BECAUSE
THERE'S AN EQUAL VOICE OF
REPRESENTATION OF WORKERS.
AND THE ISSUES OF REDRESSING ALL
THE ISSUES BUT BEEN PROTECTIONS
OF PAGA WILL STILL REMAIN.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
DO I HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS --
ANYWHERE KNOCK HIM OUT THE
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATIVE
CONFERENCE THE PLUMBING HEATING
PIPING INDUSTRY THE NATIONAL
ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS
ASSOCIATION.
UNITED CONTRACTORS IN THE WALL
AND CEILING ALLIANCE --
YOU ARE UNION CONTRACTORS
VOLUNTARILY ENTER INTO
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
AND WERE VERY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
THIS BILL INCIDENTS READING THE
PHONE BOOK SPURNING.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS GOT
WHICH IN BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
ELECTRICAL WORKERS.
THE CALIFORNIA COALITION UTILITY
EMPLOYEES A CALVINISTIC PATRIOTS
COUNCIL THE WESTERN STATES CAN
FOR SHEET METAL WORKERS AND
ELEVATOR CONSTRUCTORS UNIT.
SUPPORT THANK YOU ARE YOU AND
YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF
SCOTT GOVERNMENT CONSTRUCTION
EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING JOHN HANNAH
LITERALLY SAMUS WHILE THE
SOUTHWEST REGIONAL COUNCIL OF
CARPENTERS AND A RESIDENT OF THE
GREAT THIRTY SEVEN SENATE
DISTRICT.
URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN FIRST
TAUGHT BLOOM STEIN FOR THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CONTRACTORS
ASSOCIATION THAT SPORT.
BUT YOU MISTER CHAIR KEEFE DENIM
HALF THE DISTRICT COUNCIL OF OUR%
WORKERS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ASKING FOR SUPPORT.
AS CHAIR MEMBERS WAS IMMEDIATELY
WERE STATE COUNCIL IN SUPPORT AS
WELL.
TO AND I ECHO THE WORDS WERE
SAID EARLY BUT BECAUSE I KNOW
THE SENATORS CONCERNED ABOUT
TIME.
I WON THE LOTTERY THANK YOU.
MY QUEST REPRESENTING DISTRICT
COUNCIL SIXTEEN PAINTERS AND
ALLIED TRADES IN SUPPORT.
SALINAS ALICIA ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
IN THE OPPOSITE MAYOR MARK
FARRELL IN SUPPORT [inaudible]
ANY OTHER.
INDIVIDUALS CAN OPERATE IN
SUPPORT SKIPPING.
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
PARENTS CLEAR THE TABLE VENN
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING KIM STONE.
STONE ADVOCACY REPRESENTING
ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND
CONTRACTORS OF NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA NORMALLY WHEN YOU
OPPOSE ABILITY BECAUSE YOU'RE
YOU'RE YOU'RE CLAIM THINK IT'S A
BAD IDEA WE THINK THIS BILL IS A
GOOD IDEA COME.
BUT THE REASON WE OPPOSE IT IS
BECAUSE OF DOESN'T APPLY TO OUR
MEMBERS AND OUR EMPLOYERS CON.
PAGA CAN ABSOLUTELY TRIP UP PUMP
WELL MEANING AND WELL
INTENTIONED EMPLOYERS WITH GOT
YOU AND FORGET FRIVOLOUS
LAWSUITS THAT AND OUT PROMISED
GETTING PEAK SUPPOSEDLY
AGGRIEVED EMPLOYEE LITTLE OR
NOTHING IN ENDS UP WITH HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN
ATTORNEY'S FEES.
HAS IS DOCUMENTED IN THE ON A
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AND SOME OF
THE PROBLEMS THAT THAT
PROPONENTS ARTICULATED --
WE CREATE THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM
WE OUTS ALSO AGREED THAT I'M
ARBITRATION IS A FAIR AND
EFFICIENT WAY. TO RESOLVE
DISPUTES WE JUST --
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FATS --
NO NONUNION EMPLOYERS WITH A
BALLOT ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS BE
AFFORDED THE SAME AYE BENEFIT TO
BE EXEMPT FROM HARD TO LAWSUITS
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING BRIAN.
EARLY.
ON WITH THE FUNDS BUILT EARLY ON
WITH A CONSUMER TURNS A
CALIFORNIA.
I REPRESENT UNION MEMBERS.
HIS MIND IS AND I REPRESENT MORE
UNION MEMBERS A LAWYER IN
CALIFORNIA.
I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN UNITS
HOWEVER I'M HERE TO TELL YOU
THAT THIS PARTICULAR BILL.
IS BAD FOR PUBLIC BRADFORD
PUBLIC AND BAD FOR WORKERS IT'S
ACTUALLY A TERRIBLE BILL NOT
TELL YOU WHY.
FIRST OF ALL.
IS PREEMPTED THE LEVADA CASE
SCRIPT WAS A VERY SIMILAR CASE
WHERE THAT GUY --
SAFEWAY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE UNDER.
BECAUSE THEY WERE AND THEY HAVE
CBA THE UNITED STATES SUPREME
COURT WILL THOSE PREEMPTED BY
THE NLRA.
AND IT WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION
BY THAT --
JUSTICE SOUTER --
GEORGE W. BUSH APPOINTEE.
AND IS GOING TO SPAWN A TON OF
LITIGATION IF WE PASS THIS IF
YOU PASS THIS.
THE PROBLEM HERE IS IS THAT IT
[inaudible]
WITH.
THE SCOURGE STATE OF OF OUR
UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
DECISIONS THAT MANY WORKERS ARE
ONLY REMEDY NOW IS PADA CLASS
ACTIONS A LONGER.
TERM IN THE BECAUSE OF FORCED
ARBITRATION.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER FORM OF
FORCED ARBITRATION HOUSTON THESE
WORKERS IN A FORCED ARBITRATION
SYSTEM THAT WE ALL KNOW WOULD
STICK TO IT AND WE ALL BELIEVE
IS TERRIBLE.
SO WHAT IT IS IS JUST A SUGGEST
RATHER THAT THIS ARBITRATION IS
BETTER THAN ANY OTHER FORCED
ARBITRATION IS NOT CORRECT.
I I LIKE TO TALK VERY BRIEFLY
ABOUT THE SHIELDS CASE FORCES
PUT SECURITY PAVING.
THE I'M GONNA READ YOU SEX PART
OF THE DECISION BY THE JUDGE GOT
THIRTY SECONDS THE JUDGE FOUND
THE SIGNIFICANT HARM TO THE
WORKERS.
BUT THE PROBLEM THAT CASE THEY
COULD NOT --
DETERMINE THE DAMAGES AND SO IN
THAT CASE THE THE COURT FOUND
THAT THOSE HARMED ALL THESE
WORKERS AND AND THOSE.
THERE WAS A IT WAS A JUST
LAWSUIT BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THEY
COULDN'T PROVE THE DAMAGE AS
WELL.
SO THAT THE LAST THING I THOUGHT
IS THIS IS THAT --
LEAVING THE COURT FOUND IN THE
IN THE SHIELDS CASE WAS THAT THE
WORKERS AT COMPLAIN OF THE UNION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I PERSONALLY
THINK.
I HAVE A FEW SECONDS LEFT YOU
THROUGH WHATEVER.
YES I MEAN YOU SELL FROM THE
CALIFORNIA EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS
ASSOCIATION WERE.
BUT TWELVE HUNDRED STRONGLY
REPRESENT EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA --
WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS
ABOUT THIS BILL.
BY ONE IS STATIC IT STRIPS --
THIS BODY'S ABILITY TO SEE IF
THERE'S TRENDS ARE OR ISSUES
THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ON A
CERTAIN INDUSTRY ALSO STRIPS
THAT FROM THE LABOR COMMISSIONER.
OF FINDING OUT IF THERE'S BY. TO
A CERTAIN INDUSTRY AND ALLOWING
US BODY TO HAVE THAT DATA A WERE
ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
CONFIDENTIALITY AND THE LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY.
THAT THIS BILL WOULD BUY IN
GENDER LASTLY WE'RE VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF
PROCEDURAL AND SUBSTANTIVE.
A MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AT THAT
WOULD BE OTHERWISE ALLOWED UNDER
THE LAW.
AND I HAVE WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE
TO SAY ABOUT THE BILL IF ONLY I
HAD.
SELLER REALLY APPRECIATED UNDER
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
I FOUND.
IT VERY BROAD TO BE UP THE
TEAMSTERS WERE ACTUALLY IN A
SUPPORT IF AMENDED POSITION.
AND WANT TO RAISE A SEPARATE
ISSUE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
AN AMENDMENT THAT I IN THIS BILL.
WHICH IS UPON.
UNIONS HAVE A DUTY OF HOW WE
WERE PER WORK WE'VE ALREADY
FINISHED OUR TIME I DON'T HAVE A
MIDDLE CATEGORY.
AND I'M RUNNING AGAINST THE
CLOCK SUBSCRIBE THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
HE'S NOT IN OPPOSITION.
NINE SENATOR WHITE HOUSE DE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I GUESS I GUESS MY QUESTION IS
WHY THE RUSH.
BUT THIS WASN'T WATER BILL WEEK
AGO I'VE GONE THROUGH THE
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY THERE
DOESN'T SEEM TO BE --
I HISTORY OF THE THESE BILLS
COMING UP TO BRING THIS. TO OUR
ATTENTION.
THERE'S THIS IS THE END OF A TWO
YEAR SESSION.
I I HAVE THE TRIAL LAWYERS ARE
HERE AND THE CAT COMPLAINANT
LOISIRS SAYING THIS IS A BAD
IDEA.
WHY TODAY WHY?
LOOK AT US --
THE OPPOSITION SAYING THAT THE
SUPREME COURT HAS RULED ON THIS
BEFORE IT MAY CREATE MORE HARM
SO WHAT IS HAPPENING WILL HAPPEN
BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY THAT IS.
DIVERGENCES FOR THIS WEEKEND
TODAY.
AND THEN --
WE'VE BEEN DOWN CONSIDERING THAT
SINCE I JANUARY SO WE JUST
FIGURED OUT THAT THIS TIME WAS A
OF A GOOD TIME TO BRING IT UP IN
LIFE AND IN CONVERSATIONS WITH
DANNY AND DEMI IF YOU CAN. TO
WIN WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN TO
TALKING ABOUT IT BUT I HAVE TO
TAKE SOME OF THE BLAME FOR THIS.
BUT WE COULDN'T CLARIFY SOME OF
THE SUPPORT --
AMONGST OURSELVES AMONGST OTHER
MEMBERS AND I DON'T NORMALLY DO
THESE SORTS OF BILLS SO I LOST
TRACK OF THAT TIME AND OF WHEN I
REALLY SO THE SAID WE'VE BEEN
MOVING NOW.
CLUSTERS CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT
THE CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION AND
OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE
WILL HAVE SOMETHING AT THE END
OF THIS ALTHOUGH THERE ARE
ISSUES BEING RAISED I THINK IT'S
FAIR TO SAY --
THE LIVID THIS LIVE IT IS A AYE
AYE WE'RE WORKING UNDER THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT AND
SUPREME COURT DECISIONS THAT GO
BACK SIXTY YEARS.
THAT'S A BINDING ARBITRATION IS
A PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE
ACCEPTABLE RESOLUTION AND WORKS
REALLY WELL WE HAVE A STRONG
POWERFUL ARBITRATION PROCESS IN
THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
AND IT WORKS BUT IF OUR EMPLOYER
CONFIDENCE AND WHETHER THOSE
DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE
FINALIZED AND ANY DECISION CAN
THEN BE TAKEN TO COURT FOR A
THREE OR FOUR A FIVE YEAR
PROCESS.
THROWS THE WHOLE PROCESS OUT THE
WINDOW AND UNDERMINES THAT
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING A PROGRAM
IS UNDER PACA EMINEM AND I'VE.
EVERYBODY THROWS OUT THE
FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS NEEDED.
202525% OF BY MIKE LEASE MY
READING OF THAT THE REPORTS 25%
OF IT GOES TO THE PLAINTIFF AND
75% OF IT GOES TO THE STATE
BECAUSE YOU ACT IS THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER.
YOU STEP INTO HIS OR HER SHOES
ON BEHALF OF THIS GROUP OF
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN.
COULDN'T HAVE BEEN TREATED IT
WAY THAT WAY IN IN YOUR ATTORNEY
GETS WHATEVER YOU'RE TURNING
GETS ALL THAT BUT IT DOESN'T
SEEM LIKE IT'S NT THE THE
FISHING EXPEDITION IT THAT WOULD.
BE SUGGESTED THAT THIS WORKER.
FORGET IT.
THE UNION WORKER NONUNION
WORKERS DOING THIS FOR SOME
NEFARIOUS --
UP RECENT BECAUSE BECAUSE
THEY'RE REALLY ACTING LIKE THE
COMMISSIONER I DID I MEAN THAT
THAT MY FUNDAMENTAL FUNDAMENTAL
UNDERSTANDING OF THAT THAT
THEY'RE NOT THERE JUST FOR THE
DOUGH I GUESS TO BE SETTLED OF
AN AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT FRIVOLOUS OR
NUISANCE LAWSUITS IS NOT THE
QUESTION.
THE IDEA IS THAT ANYTIME WE HAVE
A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ELITE
ARBITRATED DECISION THAT CAN BE
TAKEN TO COURT.
AND IF THAT HAPPENS THEN WE HAVE
THIS LONG COMPLEX PROCESS THAT
IS EXTREMELY COSTLY AND IT PUTS
ALL OF THE EMPLOYERS WHO ARE
WORKING UNDER COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
IT'S NOT MANDATORY BY THE WAY
THAT IT BE PUT INTO THE CONTRACT
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY CASES
HAPPENING THAT EVEN THE
TEAMSTERS HAVE PUT IT INTO THEIR
CONTRACT WITH THE WE'RE NOT SURE
HOLDS UP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A
STATUTORY EXEMPTION.
IT'S HAPPENING IN THE INDUSTRY
AS WE SPEAK AND IT HAPPENS IN
THE UNION SECTOR AS WELL AS THE
NONUNION SECTOR WE DON'T HAVE
ANY GRIEVANCE WITH THE NONUNION
SECTOR HAVING THAT KIND OF
REPRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE
NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
BUT WE HAVE A SIXTY TO EIGHTY
YEAR LEGAL PROCESS DEFINED BY
THE SUPREME COURT THAT ALLOWS
FOR THIS EVENT ACTUALLY.
PUSHES FOR THIS RATHER THAN TAKE
CASES TO COURT TO RESOLVE LABOR
DISPUTES IF WOMEN OVER THE
TIMING QUESTION ON THE
OPPOSITION AS WELL.
IF YOU MAY RECALL TWO YEARS AGO
THERE WAS SOME OVER HARLEM PAGA
WHICH DID ALLOW.
FOR APPROVAL AND OVERSIGHT OF
EVERY SINGLE AGREEMENT SO THAT
CONCERNED ABOUT SOME --
GOT SHOW WHERE FAT LOSS
UNDERMINED BY THE FACT THAT
THERE'S ACTUALLY JUDICIAL
APPROVAL OF EACH OF THE
SETTLEMENTS ADDITIONAL.
THE LW DE A GETS EACH ONE OF
THESE --
NOTICES AND MAKE HIM LOOK FOR
TRENDS AND THEY CAN ALSO TAKE
APART THIS CASES THAT THEY WISH
TO BRING FORWARD.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SHORT
CUTTING THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS
ALREADY PUT IN PLACE TWO YEARS
AGO WE'RE NOT SEEING IF THAT'S
WORKING OR IF THERE WERE OTHER
CHANGES THAT MAY BE MORE
EFFECTIVE?
THAN COMING UP PRECIPITOUSLY FOR
A WEEK BEFORE GETTING UP
PRESIDENT BELL WE THINK THERE
ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES HERE. FOR
ARBITRATION REVIEW FOR THOSE
COURT CASES.
OF IT'S THE UNDER PAGA FOR ITS
ALL OF THE LABOR CODE THIS COULD
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE --
ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT IN THE
WORKPLACE IT CAN INCLUDE
IMMIGRATION ISSUES SERVICES NOT
SOLELY THE BREAD AND BUTTER THAT
MIGHT BE AND CBA'S WHICH I
UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE RAISING
THIS.
THIS IS THE ENTIRE LABOR CODE
AND ALL OF THE CONDUCT THAT THE
LABOR CODE.
LEGISLATE THAT DISOBEYS
SUBJECTED TO WHICH I WOULD PUT
FORWARD THAT.
ARBITRATORS WHO WHO ARE
EXPERIENCED WITH CBA'S MAY NOT
BE AT ALL EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA
OF THESE OTHER LABOR COMBINED WE
DON'T THINK IT COVERS SEVEN TO
ASK FOR INTERNET IS NOT GOING TO
HELP YOU.
YOU'RE FINE GETTING MUCH NEED.
ONE AYE NAM IF I'M GETTING WHAT
I NEED THEM GETTING CLEAR
ANSWERS HAVE BEEN CLEARED.
CLARITY OF WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT
COVERS EVERYTHING THE LABOR CODE
EXACTLY IT ONLY COVERS WHAT PAGA
STATUTES ARE REFERRING TO AND
EVERYTHING YOU KNOW AND TO TARA
LABOR COULD WHO KNOWS
[inaudible]
OKAY.
IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE DE WELL
ANYWAY WELL IF I MAY HAVE OUT OF
HIM SO YOU KNOW IF I MAY.
UM BECAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT THAT
THE THE THE BLL HAS BEEN IN
PRINT --
VERY LONG AYE IF YOU'LL ALLOW US
TO MOVE FORWARD I AM WILLING TO
TO WORK WITH BOTH SIDES --
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS
SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE
CONCERNED WITH AND THAT THEY'RE
CONCERNED WITH AND AND YOU HAVE
THE OPTION ON THE FLOOR. TO TO
DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO --
BUT IF YOU [inaudible]
WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE
CAN -- GET
YOU A BETTER PRODUCT --
THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WILL PRESENT
ON THE FLY [inaudible]
OKAY [inaudible]
TIME.
YOU HAVE A MOTION.
YES I WILL MAKE A MOTION I'M.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING MEASURE
AVAILABLE COMMOTION.
OKAY I APPRECIATE MASS WILL --
GO TO LABOR NEXT [inaudible]
SO [inaudible]
DID THE IF WE WANT TO HAVE A
CLOSING COMMENT WAS AT HER FROM
THAT WAS MICHAEL'S INCOMING
THANK YOU.
NET.
APPENDAGES CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT
IN A PUBLIC IF YES OVER RESTED.
SO.
NO I'M WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE
WE'RE WE'RE GOOD PROJECT SO WE
GOT A MUCH EMOTION --
PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE
[inaudible]
THE MOTION.
THE MOTION AS DO PASSED THE
SENATE LABOR COMMITTEE JACKSON.
FORELOCK PARLATO.
ANDERSON HERTZBERG MONNING STERN.
I THOUGHT HE TRIED.
TO IT IS NOW.
YOU HAVE ONE MORE BILL TO
PROCESS --
CENTER WIECKOWSKI.
I'M HAPPY TO TO DO ONE MORE BILL
AND WE BOTH HAVE CAUCUS TODAY.
BUT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO GO
AFTER A FEW MORE MINUTES.
CENTER LIKE OURS HERE GET WITH
THAT WILL HAVE NO CHOICE.
BUT I PROMISE I WILL GO FAST
[inaudible]
THIRTY THREE EIGHTY BY.
TEARING COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M
HERE TODAY TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY
BILL TWENTY THREE FIFTY FOUR A
BILL THAT WILL HELP ENSURE.
EQUITY IN COURT PROCEEDINGS BY
MANDATING THAT WE HAVE COURT
REPORTERS.
PRESENT IN CHILD PRESIDENT AND
TELL CUTS IN DOMESTIC MINDS
PROCEEDINGS.
STORY BUT RADOME TRANSCRIPT IS A
CRITICAL COMPONENT DURING COURT
HEARINGS WHAT PARTY'S
OVERWHELMINGLY REPRESENT
THEMSELVES.
LACK OF COURT REPORTERS IN
FAMILY COURT CASES HAS CREATED
MANY ISSUES PARTICULARLY IN
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND TALK OF
PROTECTIVE ORDERS.
WITHOUT A RECORD OF THE HEARING
LITIGANTS ARE AND ABLE TO PLEASE
APPEAL DECISIONS THAT ARE
CONTRARY TO VICTIMS SAFETY.
AB TWENTY THREE FIFTY FOUR ONE
ENSURE EQUAL ACCESS TO COURT
REPORTERS IN FAMILY LAW
PROCEEDINGS WERE LIFE ALTERING
DECISIONS ARE MADE EVERYDAY.
HERE WITH ME TODAY HAVE IT NOT
CO HERNANDEZ BUT REPRESENTING
THE CALIFORNIA COURT REPORTERS
ASSOCIATION --
AND I WILL TO CAPITULATE MOVED
BILL THANK YOU.
I'LL ASK DOCUMENT RETHINK THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS NOT
YOUR HERNANDEZ AND HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA COURT PORTER
SOLICITATION.
THE OTHER STATE OF THIS --
THERE IS DEFINITELY A STATEWIDE
NEED TO ENSURE THAT --
TRANSCRIPTS ARE PROVIDED FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING
THROUGH THESE TYPES OF FEEDINGS.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING OVER AND OVER
FOR YEARS --
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CAN MATTERS.
UNABLE TO APPEAL THEIR MATTER
SIMPLY BECAUSE A CORPORATE
PORTER WAS NOT.
I PROVIDED BY THE COURTS OF THIS
WILL HELP.
WAS UP AND DOWN THE STATE
[inaudible] FOR SUPPORT
[inaudible]
OPPOSITION [inaudible]
OKAY.
THANK YOU I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE WAS GREAT THIS IS
TO PASS TOUR GROUPS.
YEAH I MEAN LISTEN MY CUSTOM.
IT MERGES RUN THE SHOW.
I HAVE A MOTION --
BENEFIT THE STATE THROUGH.
THE MOTIONS DE PASSED THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS JACKSON.
MORE LOCK NO MORE LUCK KNOWN
ANDERSON.
HER HERTZBERG.
MONNING.
STERN WIECKOWSKI AYE WIECKOWSKI
AYE THAT'S ONE ONE AND THAT WILL
HOLD.
SO WE ARE IN RECESS THANK YOU