HEARING OF THE SENATE PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
BECAUSE SECRETARY I SEE DAN AT
THAT QUORUM IS PRESENT.
JERRY KING PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
FOR ESTABLISHING COR PENN HERE
PEN PRESENT ROOM.
GROW PRESENTLY MORE LIKE.
WHAT PRESIDENT PORTANTINO?
OKAY THANK YOU WE DO HAVE A
QUORUM [inaudible]
EXCELLENT.
SO I WELCOME EVERYONE HERE TODAY
AND APPRECIATE.
BEING HERE OF JUST BEFORE WE
BEGAN I DO JUST WANT TO QUICKLY
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT --
PATTERSON EVENTS THAT HAPPENED
UNFORTUNATELY THIS MORNING --
HERE IN OUR STATE LONG BEACH
WHERE WE'VE HAD. TO TWO HOW LONG
BEACH FIREFIGHTERS WERE SHOT --
DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH SENIOR
LIVING FACILITY --
ONE FATALLY --
FIRE CAPTAIN DAVE ROSA SKILL IN
THE LINE OF DUTY QUAN FISCALLY
REPORTS OF AN EXPLOSION SMALL
GASOLINE INSIDE THE FACILITY.
HE LEAVES BEHIND A WIFE AND TWO
CHILDREN AND A SECOND
FIREFIGHTER WAS SHOT USE IS IN
STABLE CONDITION AS WELL AS A
THIRD.
PERSON THAT IT'S BEEN SHOT AS
WELL UP THERE.
CERTAINLY A VERY TRAGIC EVENT WE
STILL DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS
BUT AGAIN UNDERSCORES.
THE ROLE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS
AND KEEPING US SAFE BUT ALSO
PUTTING THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY
TO DO SO.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO DO
WORK OF THE COMMITTEE HEAD ON TO
SAFEGUARD BENEFITS OUR PUBLIC
SAFETY OFFICERS --
AND THE OFFICE OF THE OUR HEARTS
GO OUT TO THE FAMILIES AND
ENTIRE LONG BEACH.
FIREFIGHTERS COMMUNITY SO I JUST
WANTED KNOWLEDGE THAT.
TODAY SO I'M.
OKAY PUTS THE PHONE OKAY OKAY SO
I BELIEVE --
THE FIRST THAT WE ARE IS FILE A
SIGN IN ORDER SO SOME MEMBER
LOVE BELIEVE YOU ARE FIRST STEP.
AND SO WE HAVE --
ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN OPPONENT
BEFORE -- AB
THIRTY OR THREE BEFORE WE HAVE
YOU BEGAN AYE ONE MAKING THAT WE
DO HAVE. THIRTEEN ITEMS OE OF
WHICH IS ON THE CONSENTCALENDAR
THAT'S I AM NUMBER THIRTEEN
EIGHTY TWENTY OR SO SEVENTY SIX
BY A SOME MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.
SO WHAT THAT.
POINT WHILE WE GO AHEAD BEGAN --
ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN EIGHTY THREE
OH THREE FOUR WELCOME ASSEMBLY
FOR LOVE --
THAT YOU VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THIS IS AB THIRTY IF
YOU KNOW WHAT SUSPICION TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT AS WELL OKAY THANK
YOU WITNESSES SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON SEL CRUZ
PRESIDENT OF APPS ME AT BART --
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS OUT
ABSENCE HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL.
THIRTY THIRTY FOUR HIS BILL
SOLVES PROBLEMS AND PROMOTES
LABOR PEACE.
THE BILL ACTUALLY DOES TIE IT
PROVIDES ACCESS TO REASONABLE
TESTED.
PROCEDURES TO ALLOW EITHER PARTY
TO RESOLVE A DISPUTE.
THE BILL DOES IS SIMPLY ALLOWS
ASKING OF THE DISTRICT TO USE
EXISTING PER PROCESSES TO HELP
THE PARTIES SOLVE PROBLEMS.
AS THEY ARISE IN ORGANIZED
REASONABLE FASHION.
HAVE BEEN APART MORE THAN TWENTY
YEARS CURRENTLY AS A SUPERVISOR
IN THE OPERATIONS CONTROL
CENTER.
THAT WHEN HIS ORGANIZATION
TRANSFORM AND MODERNIZE ITS
FLEET OF CARS.
DRINKING TROLL SYSTEMS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE BUT WE HAVE YET
TO MODERNIZE OUR LABOR RELATIONS
STATUTE.
FOUND THE BOND ACT.
HE WAS FIRST CREATED IN THE
EARLY NINETEEN SEVENTIES.
WHO AFTER THE NBA WAS CREATED?
ARE STATUES REMAIN UNCHANGED
SINCE THE VIETNAM WAR.
MEANWHILE THE NBA'S INVOLVED
WITH THE TIMES BECOMING A MORE
ROBUST COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
STATURE.
THIS IS GOOD LEGISLATION ABLE TO
PAY IT WILL NOT REPLACE THE BOND
ACT WILL CONTINUE ON WHERE IT'S
SILENT.
ITS SOLE PURPOSE IS TO IMPROVE
OUR LABOR RELATIONS BY PROVIDING
BOTH THE UNION AND EMPLOYER.
WITH GUIDANCE TOOLS IN A DISPUTE
RESOLUTION SYSTEM.
ON A RANGE OF LABOR ISSUES LIKE
NEGOTIATIONS REPRESENTATION
DISPUTES AND UNFAIR LABOR
PRACTICE RESOLUTIONS.
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ASSN YOU
STRUGGLE WITH FOR DECADES AND
CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE WITH
TODAY.
WE'VE TRIED IN GOOD FAITH TO
RESOLVE THESE ISSUES
COLLECTIVELY OVER THE PAST TWO
YEARS WITH VERY LITTLE SUCCESS.
WITH THE BE NO SIGN OF RESOLVING
THESE ISSUES INTERNALLY OR
IMPROVING ORAL STATUTE PASSED ME
LOOKS TO BE OUTSIDE FOR
SOLUTION.
MOST PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS IN
CALIFORNIA.
ALREADY UNDER A STATUTE THAT'S
COVERED BY PER.
TRANSIT AGENCIES LIKE SONORA
RAIL SMART.
CHANCES COMMUNITY LOS ANGELES
CA.
REPUBLICAN SUPERVISORS ARE ALL
CURRENTLY UNDER PER.
ORANGE COUNTY TRANSIT AGENCIES
ALSO PURSUING SOME LEGISLATION.
TO GO UNDER PURPOSE WELL.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR IPHONE
[inaudible]
WITNESS.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD ONLY A
GRAPHING WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MISSILE HUNT FOR EASE DISTRICT
COUNCIL.
FIFTY SEVEN I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE
AS A PROD CO SPONSOR AND WORKING
WITH OUR CURRENT UNION EXPOSURE
SO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AYE
VOTE.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE BRIAN NELSON ON BEHALF
OF THE AMERICAN FEDERATION STATE
COUNTY MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES.
ALSO HERE STRONG SUPPORT --
SCOTT CO SPONSORING THIS --
PEACE LEGISLATION WE BELIEVE
THIS IS A A NEUTRAL PROCESS ON
THAT BENEFITS BOTH THE EMPLOYER
AS WELL AS THE LA TWO HUNDRED
SEVENTY ROUGHLY MEMBERS OF OUR
OUR LOCAL --
AT BART FIVE TO HAVE A NEUTRAL
PROCESS TO RESOLVE DISPUTES IS
ARE WE ALREADY BEEN --
EXPLAINED BY --
BOUGHT MY COLLEAGUES HERE --
THIS BILL BILLS ON THE LEDGE --
TWO THOUSAND THREE THAT MOVES
SIMILAR EMPLOYEES --
WHO -- OR
SUPERVISORY EMPLOYEES AT THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY METROPOLITAN
TRANSIT AUTHORITY ON THE PURPOSE
WELL WHAT WE'RE LOOKING.
FOR EYES A MECHANISM THAT
RECENTLY DEALS WITH FAR LABOR
RELATIONS ISSUES.
I'M PROVIDES A NEUTRAL --
PLACE WITH A REPOSITORY FOR
POSITIVE ORI OF OF LABOR --
CASE LAW AND AND AND AND HISTORY
TO RESOLVE PHONE LOGS AND
DISPUTES THAT WE'VE HAD --
I'M HERE TO ANSWER TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE LAW
AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST THAT I BILL FROM
COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES AS
SUPPORT.
THE NO OTHER WITNESS SUPPORT --
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
MICHIGAN MAKE SOME ROOM FOR THEM
UP HERE [inaudible]
HERE MISTER.
MEMBERS MICHAEL PIMENTEL THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT ASSOCIATION
--
PERFECTLY OKAY YOU IN OPPOSITION
IN OPPOSITION YOU WANT TO COME
TO THE TABLE HERE [inaudible]
MMHM.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS --
MICHAEL PENN TELLER THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT ASSOCIATIONAL
BE VERY BRIEF --
YOU ARE ARE ARE AND STATE
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE IT'S IS
AUTHORIZED AND OPPOSE POSITION
FOR THIS BILL RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR NOVA [inaudible]
ALRIGHT THE THE WITNESS IS IN
OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON JIM LIGHTS ON
BEHALF THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY
AREA RAPID TRANSIT DISTRICT WE
ARE OPPOSED TO THE BILL.
WE THINK --
LOCAL PROCESSWHICH CURRENTLY
EXISTS TODAY IS THE BEST OPTION
--
FOR RESOLVING DISPUTES WE HAVE
MISTER MICHAEL JONES ASSISTANT
GENERAL MANAGER FROM BART TO SAY
A FEW MORE WORDS IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU VERY GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN PANIC MANY MEMBERS
AGAIN I'M MICHAEL JOHNSON.
AND GENERAL MANAGER OF
ADMINISTRATION FOR US HALF IT'S
GO BAY AREA RAPID TRANSIT.
SUPPORT HAS OPPOSED POSITION A.
B. THIRTY THIRTY FOUR WE BELIEVE
FIRMLY THAT A LOCAL SOLUTION TO
OUR LABOR MATTERS IS PREFERABLE.
AT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL FOR
SEVERAL REASONS FIRST
IT'S IMPORTANT KNOW THAT BART
ALONG WITH ITS LABOR PARTNERS
AGREED TO EXTEND OUR EXISTING
CONTRACT UNTIL.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THIS
LEGISLATION WAS INTRODUCED WITH
NO PRIOR NOTICE TO BAR BORDEN OR
BART MANAGEMENT.
HEY B. THIRTY THIRTY FOUR WOULD
REQUIRE BAR TO OPERATE UNDER THE
M. NBA FOR MID CONTRACT
DISPUTES.
AND POTENTIALLY BOTH BART AND IN
NBA.
FOR ONE BARGAINING UNIT FOR OVER
OF APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED
SEVENTY FIVE EMPLOYEES
SKETCHING.
SECOND UNDER THIS BILL BARR
WOULD LOSE ABILITY TO LOOK
RESOLVE ISSUES LOCALLY IF EITHER
SIDE.
DECLARED THE IMPASSE THE ISSUES
WOULD MOVE TO FACT FINDING AND
JURISDICTION BEFORE THE PER.
THIS COULD DELAYED ESSENTIAL
PROJECTS SUCH AS THE RETROFIT OF
THE TRANSPAY TWO BEFORE
INSTALLATION OF A MODERN TRAIN
CONTROL SYSTEM UNTIL THE PER
PROCESS CONCLUDES.
AGAIN VITAL BAR PROJECTS WOULD
BE DELAYED DUE TO LIST
LEGISLATION LEAVING BAY AREA
COMMUTERS IN FURTHER GRIDLOCK
AND CRITICAL SAFETY WORK STALL.
ADDITIONALLY A B. THIRTY THIRTY
FOUR IS ONE OF THREE BILLS THIS
SESSION THAT WOULD EXPAND PURGE
JURISDICTION TO NEW EMPLOYEE
UNITS.
PER CONTINUES TO BE CHALLENGE
WITH A CASE PROCESSING BACKLOG
AND IT IS UNCLEAR IF ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES FROM THE LEGISLATURE
ARE SUFFICIENT FOR PER TO
ACHIEVE ITS EFFICIENCY GOALS.
PURPOSE SAID THAT SIXTY DAYS AS
A REASONABLE PERIOD FOR TO
COMPLETE AN INVESTIGATION AND
MAKE DETERMINATIONS HOWEVER.
THE AVERAGE CASE IS CURRENTLY AT
A HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE DAYS
THREE TIMES MORE THAN PARK
STATED GOAL.
PART ALSO STRESSES THE
IMPORTANCE OF VOLUNTARY DISPUTE
RESOLUTION.
A PERSPECTIVE THAT IS SHARED BY
BART.
SINCE THE BILL WAS INTRODUCED
PART AND ASKED ME HAVE MET THREE
TIMES TO DISCUSS A LIST THE
CONCERNS IN AN EFFORT TO FIND.
A LOCALLY CRAFTED SOLUTION AND
AVOID LEGISLATION.
BART IS WILLING TO ADDRESS MOST
OF THE LOCALS RECOMMENDATIONS
WHICH WOULD PROVIDE CONCRETE.
AND TIMELY CHANGES FOR ASKING
MEMBERS WE BELIEVE THIS TO BE
FAVORABLE A A FAVORABLE OUTCOME
EXCUSE ME VERSUS LEGISLATION
THAT ONLY ESTABLISHES A NEW
PROCESS FOR DISPUTES AND NOT
DISPUTE RESOLUTION.
I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT THERE'S
ONLY BEEN ONE UNFAIR LABOR
PRACTICE FILED BY THE PAST ME
LOCAL IN THE LAST TEN YEARS
WHICH WAS RESOLVED LOCALLY AND
I'D NEVER SEEN A COURT ROOM.
IN CLOSING IT IS UNCLEAR HOW A.
B. THIRTY THIRTY FOUR IS ANY
MORE ADVANTAGEOUS OR COST
EFFECTIVE THAN CURRENT PROCESSES
UNDER EXISTING LAW.
OR PARTS LABOR AGREEMENTS FOR
THESE REASONS PART RESPECTFULLY
EXTRA OR NO VOTE TODAY THANK
YOU.
OKAY THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
RIGHT XENON QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THURMOND.
ANOTHER OF A QUESTION THE
STRETCHER JUST MAYBE
OBSERVATION.
BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE WE HAVE A
WHOLE FAMILY FIGHT GOING ON IN.
AND I'M A I KINDA FALL THE ADAGE
THAT MANAGER SHOULD MANAGE SO.
THE SOFT THE CEO AND ASSISTANCE
CEO PART SHOULD BE [inaudible]
MANAGING AND THEREFORE ONCE WEEK
WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE THEM --
WE TO VOTE I I'LL BE OPPOSE IT.
A INNER I'D THIS THIS CONCERN
WHERE YOU HAD OPENLY ADMIT THAT
YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE OUTSIDE
FIRST SOLUTION IS REALLY
DISTURBING [inaudible] TO ME.
AND I IT STRIKES ME AS A WHO'S
YOUR DADDY KIND OF A DEAL I I'M
JUST UNCOMFORTABLE THAT I
RESPECT ARTS MANAGEMENT.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
OKAY THANK YOU --
I WOULD JUST MAKE NOTE THAT --
MY THE SHEET --
THE TESTIMONY ON BOTH SIDES I
WOULD BE AT NIGHT NOTE THOUGH
THAT THE HERBS SYSTEM WHICH DID
ACTUALLY.
COME AFTER MANY OF THE TRANSIT
--
POSITIONS AND APPRECIATE THE
FACT THAT MADE THE TRANSITION
SEIZE HAVE YEAH I HAD COLLECTED
BARGAINING FOR A LONG TIME AND I
THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE.
PRAISED AND ADMIRED --
THAT -- WE
DID ESTABLISH THE PER PROCESS IS
A WAY FOR EMPLOYEES AND PUBLIC
ENTITIES. TWO THAT BE ABLE
HELPERS ELSA SPECIFICALLY
DESIGNED.
PROGRAM TO HELP RESOLVE THESE
KINDS OF DISPUTES AND THERE IS A
HOUSE IS NOT NOTED A CASE LAW
AND SO FORTH THAT IS EMBODIED IN
THAT THAT ACTUALLY.
WOULD NOT THIS OF THE PRESENT
AND THE EXIT WELL.
IF IT CAN BE REFERRED TO SIGN
EXISTING COURT SYSTEM AND THE
COURT ITSELF ALSO ESPECIALLY
WHEN IT COMES ASKS FOR MONEY IN
THE BUDGET THEY THEMSELVES HAVE
THEIR OWN BACKLOG.
SO MAKE NO THAT --
AND AND PROCESS WOULD BE ABLE TO
RELY ON THAT SO SO SO I THINK
WITH THAT.
I. Y. SURLY COURAGE TO PARTY'S
CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS AND I
APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE RELATION BETWEEN DO I AND I
I I DO THINK THAT.
YOU KNOW MY OPINION THE PER
PROCESS IS ONE THAT.
WE SHOULD BE S. B. SHOULD
CERTAINLY BE THINKING ABOUT ITS
WAS WAS DESIGNED --
FOR BUT WITH THAT --
FACE WHICH ELECT CLOSES SOMEONE
WITH LOVE EXPECT THIS TREND
[inaudible]
GREAT -- AND
I WANT TO MAKE.
BECAUSE I JUST NEED TO HAVE
MORE.
OKAY SO WHAT WE HAVE WE HAD WE
WE DECEPTICON I'M GRABS THAT --
I WOULD HAVE MIKE IN GUESSES
THAT I ASK FOR A MOTION --
AT HALF THAT DO AS A COURTESY OF
WE CAN WE FROM OUR MEMBERS TO
SHOW UP CENTRAL GET.
ONE AT THAT POINT AND THEN --
IS THERE A MOTION.
OKAY THERE ISN'T ONE AT THE
MOMENT BUT WE WILL PULL HOLD THE
ITEM ON CALL AND TOLD MORE
MEMBERS ARE HERE.
OKAY THANK YOU RIGHT TO KEEP
[inaudible]
RIGHT.
I THINK IF.
WE HAD A COUPLE.
SO YOU KNOW.
THE THING THAT I'M HEARING OKAY
SO WHAT NEXT IS NEXT ITEM IS --
ASSEMBLYMEMBER Q. WELCOME AND
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB
TWENTY SEVENTEEN WELCOME.
THANK YOU CENTER SO AB TWENTY
SEVENTEEN WILL HELP TO ENSURE
THAT WORKERS ARE PROTECTED AS
THEY EXERCISE THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS
SUCH AS DECIDING WHETHER TO
BECOME A MEMBER OF THE UNION.
WELL STATE LAW ALREADY PROHIBITS
A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE FROM
INTERFERING WITH THE KERN
EMPLOYEE WHO WANTS TO BE
REPRESENTED THIS PROTECTION
DOESN'T EXTEND TO THE
PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYEES AND THIS
BILL WOULD CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE.
IF AN EMPLOYER WERE TO
DISCOVERED UNION MEMBERSHIP OR
OTHERWISE DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A
POTENTIAL EMPLOYEE DURING THE
HIRING PROCESS THAT WOULD
UNDERMINE THE RIGHTS.
OF CALIFORNIANS TO FREELY DECIDE
WHETHER TO JOIN A UNION WITH
THAT LIKE TO TURN OVER TO MY
WITNESS.
HE SHOT CAST OF THE SERVICE
EMPLACEMENTS IN IN --
GIVEN THE HOUR ALL JUST KEEP IT
SHORT THIS BILL RECTIFY THE
CURRENT A MISSION IN EXISTING
LAW AND I CAN ASK ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THANK
YOU.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU OTHER
WITNESSES A SUPPORT.
IF YOU CAN MEMBERS MICHAEL
HIMSELF THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT ASK FOR
GUYS HAVE [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
MICHAEL YOUNG WITH CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION ALSO SUPPORT
THINKING.
CHRIS BROWN CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION OF TEACHERS ALSO
SPORTS A CLEAR.
J'AI SURPRISES WITH THE COMPANY
SCHOOL EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THAT RIGHT WITH THEIR AND RE
DISSOCIATE REPRESENTING THE
ORANGE COUNTY EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
RANGE FROM WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION SUPPORT IF
YOU.
SHE WANTED MARCOS ON BEHALF OF
UT W. UPSWING LOOK AT THEIR NINE
THIRTY AND AS WELL AS ABSENT
CALIFORNIA THINK.
THANK YOU OKAY I WE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
OKAY SEEING KNOWN COMING UP --
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
A SYMBOLIC VISIT TECHNICAL
QUESTION RESEARCHER A THIS THIS
PARALLELS SENATE BILL EIGHT SIX
SIX AND BUDGET IT IS IN THAT
ALREADY ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
LATELY SHOW ENDED IS STILL WAY
FOR SIGNATURE AND I JUST KEEP
MOVING TO THE PROCESS UNTIL WE
HAVE FINAL CONFIRMATION WHAT'S
HAPPENING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WELL --
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE BILL
FORWARD AND I WILL BE VOTING YES
--
MILITARY IS THERE A MOTION.
OKAY NOW WE DO HAVE A MOTION AT
THIS POIN TIME HOWEVER I THINK
WHEN WE HAVE MORE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS HERE.
WE WILL VENTURE OF ONE WILL BE
FORTHCOMING --
CIVIL PUT THE BILL ON CALL AT
THE MOMENT YOU THINK PURCHASE
AND I THINK THEY GIVE
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT NEXT UP IS A ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SALAS.
YES SIR MEANS THAT WE HAVE --
OF ITEM NUMBER TWELVE A. B.
THIRTY ONE FORTY FIVE WELCOME.
WHAT WAS CHAIR MORE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS IF PRESENT BEFORE YOU
ASSEMBLY BILL THIRTY ONE FORTY
FIVE WOULD ALLOW SPECIFIED STATE
EMPLOYEES PAY INTO THE STATE
DISABILITY INSURANCE PROGRAM
WATER TO ALLOW THESE WORKERS TO
BE ELIGIBLE FOR BENEFITS --
LET ME JUST SAY THIS FOR US TO
OPPOSITION RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE APPRECIATE THE
ANALYSIS.
WORK OF YOUR COMMITTEE OKAY
THANK YOU WHEN THE SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS MY NAME
IS DANIEL WILSON I'M CURRENTLY.
A OUTLINED STAFF SUPERVISOR AT
THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL
SERVICES SPECIFICALLY AND THE
PROGRAM THAT OVERSEES CAL WELL
FIRST SYSTEM.
ON THAT NOTE I'M NOT HERE
REPRESENTING CDSS OR THE
ADMINISTRATION JUST MYSELF.
BUT AND JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT MY STORY AND HOW THIS BILL
PARTICULARLY --
POSITIVELY IMPACTS ON ME AND
OTHER --
SUPERVISORS IN --
EXEMPT EMPLOYEES OF THE STATE --
A COUPLE YEARS AGO MY HUSBAND
AND I BEGAN --
THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE
APPROVAL PROCESS FOR UMPTEEN
FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE PARENTS --
AND AS SUCH ARE IN THE TIME WE
STARTED LOOKING INTO OUR LEAVE
BENEFIT OPTIONS --
I HAS BEEN ALSO WORKS CDSS AND
SO IN GOING IN LOOKING AT OR
LEAVE OPTIONS --
WE FOUND OUT THAT WE THAT WERE
DISABILITY LEAVE OPTION IS NON
INDUSTRIAL DISABILITY WHICH HAS
NO --
PROVISION --
FOR PAID BENEFITS --
FOR ONLY FOR FUN INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE GIVING BIRTH IT ARE COVERED
AT THE DISABILITY BUT THERE'S
NOTHING FOR FOLKS WHO ARE
ADOPTING YOUR FOR FOLKS WHO
AREN'T AT IT. FOR FOLKS ARE
GIVING BIRTH SO.
AND AND WE DO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T
PLANNED A STATE DISABILITY
INSURANCE WE COULDN'T BENEFIT
FROM THE BONDING TIME COVERED
UNDER THE PAID FAMILY LEAVE
PROGRAM.
AND SO THEN I ALSO LOOKED INTO A
CATASTROPHIC LEAVE CAN ANY OF MY
COLLEAGUES DONATE TIME TO ME IN
PERHAPS LOOK A GIFT OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WAS AN AVAILABLE OPTION
EITHER IS THAT PROGRAM IS JUST
LIMITED TO INJURY OR ILLNESS.
SO AS WE WENT INTO LOOKING AT
I'M GETTING A PLACEMENT AND THE
CHILD WAS PLACED WITH US --
DIED JULY THIS PAST YEAR IT
THREE DAYS OLD AND WE HAD TO BE
STRATEGIC ABOUT HOW WE USE OUR
LEAVE TIME --
BUT WE DON'T ANT EITHER OF US
TO BLOW THROUGH OUR LEAVE TIME
AND OF COURSE WE DON'T WANNA
EXHAUST OR LEAVE TIME AND THE
THREE DAY OLD BABY FOR NOT BE
ABLE TO STAY WITH US BECAUSE HE
REUNIFIED WITH IS.
A BIRTH PARENTS RE WENT TO
RELATIVES --
SUE MY HAS BEEN ONE OF EXHAUSTED
HIS OFF OF FOR OF COURSE WE
WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OPT AND
AS THE I OR IF WE WOULD'VE HAD
STI IS A BENEFIT OR CATASTROPHIC
WE'VE.
AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT SIX
WEEKS OF A BONDING TIME WITH THE
CHILD THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD
HAVE BEEN ABLE.
ON TO SPEND WITH HIM AND AND YOU
KNOW BEING A FOSTER PARENT BEING
A PARENT THERE ARE --
IT THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND AND
RIGHTFULLY SO YOU KNOW IT'S A
BIG RESPONSIBILITY ESPECIALLY
BEING A FOSTER PARENT.
AND BEING ABLE --
TO RECEIVE THOSE BENEFITS ARE
PAID FAMILYLEAVE AND REALLY BE
ABLE TO SPEND SOME QUALITY
BONDING TIME.
ON ADDITIONAL TIME WITH OUR
CHILD WOULD HAVE GONE WOULD
HAVE.
ENHANCED THAT ARM AND WOULD HAVE
--
HAVE BEEN ANOTHER BARRIER --
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REDUCED FOR
US AND SO.
LOOK FOR THAT I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST THAT THE YES VOTE OF THE
MEMBERS HERE --
I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP YOU
KNOW OUR SITUATION AND MANY
OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE --
YOU KNOW PARENTS IN EXEMPTS
POSITIONS OR ARE FOSTER PARENTS
AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF DRAW
THE IRONY OF ME BEING IN THAT.
THE SYSTEM THAT OVERSEES
CALIFORNIA'S --
CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM AND WE
SUPPORT FOSTER PARENTS AND BUILD
AND SUPPORT FAMILIES EVERYDAY
AND YOU KNOW WANTING TO AND
FOUNDATIONAL SUPPORT THAT TIME
COLLEAGUES IN OTHER POSITIONS IN
THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAVE AS WELL.
OKAY WELL THANK YOU THANKS SO
MUCH FOR BEING A FOSTER PARENT
THANK YOU.
VERY OTHER WITNESSES A SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS TO TOP
AND FOR THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA STATE SUPERVISORS AND
SUPPORT FOR TONIGHT.
THANK YOU.
THANK ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
TINA AND QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS A SERVER LIKE
THEY FUTURE --
DISCREETLY AN IMMEDIATE UNFUNDED
LIABILITY WHEN.
HIM YOU YOU MOVE TO SD I SO THE
WAY I READ THE BILL IS IT ALLOWS
EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
EXCLUDED. TO PAY INTO THE SYSTEM
PIKE ANY OTHER.
THAT'S GOING FORWARD GOING
FORWARD CREDIT IF THEY WERE.
TO GO FORWARD AND THEN
IMMEDIATELY TAKE THE BENEFIT.
THEY MAY BE GETTING SOMETHING
THAT THEY HAD REALLY PAID INTO.
SO THAT CREATES.
AN IMMEDIATE ROLL OVER OR
LIABILITY FOR ALLOWING THEM TO
PAY INTO THE SYSTEM SO THAT THEY
CAN BENEFIT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER
EMPLOYEE WOULD BE ABLE TO THAT'S
CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THE
SYSTEM.
SO EVERYONE THAT'S EXCLUDED WE
WANT TO ALLOW THEM THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PAY INTO THE
SYSTEM TO TO BENEFIT FROM IT AS
WELL RIGHT BUT THEY'VE BEEN
PAYING INTO INDIE AYE AS OPPOSED
TO AS THE AYE CORRECT SO CAN MAY
TRANSFER WHAT THEY PAID INTO IN
THE AYE OVER TO SD.
I IF I'M MAY I UNDERSTAND THAT
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE AND FOR
TWO YEARS SO THE PERSON WOULD
HAVE TO PAY AND FOR AT LEAST TWO
YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN START
DRAWING DOWN THE BENEFIT.
TIKRIT RIGHT SO THOSE THAT LIVE
RIGHT HAVE TO START PAYING AND
YOU COULDN'T GO SWITCH THE STI
AND THEN SUDDENLY WITHDRAW THE
BENEFIT OF THAT SHOULD BE AND
TWO YEARS AT LEAST RIGHT.
RIGHT COULD.
PICK UP RECEIVING AND MISTER
WILSON'S CASE HE WANTED IT
IMMEDIATELY --
BUT IF IF WERE BEFORE
TRANSFERRING SOMEONE FROM.
ONE BENEFIT TO ANOTHER.
WHY NOT MOVE OVER THERE PRIOR
PAYMENTS?
I'M JUST IN IT AND THEN YOU
DON'T EVEN HAVE A TWO YEAR
WAITING.
CLEAN.
THE HAS MANIPULATED SPACE YEARS
[inaudible]
OKAY [inaudible]
ACTUAL.
I GET WHICH IS.
TRYING TO FILL [inaudible]
YES [inaudible]
TO YEAH [inaudible]
AFTER TRAILER [inaudible]
COMPLETE OKAY.
SOMEONE IS PAYING YOU PLAY.
A FEMINIST THE I WOULD HAVE A
LIABILITY.
SORT OF SO SO ALSO YOU YOU
TRANSFER FROM IN THE IDEAS THE
AYE YOU WAIT TWO YEARS OR OR YOU
HAVE TO WORK TWO YEARS.
SO IF YOU GET IT IMMEDIATELY
THEN YOU HIT THE POINT YOU CAN'T
WAIT WITHIN TWO YEARS THEN YOU
OWE SOMEBODY.
SOME OF YOU GUYS YOU CAN'T
CONTROL YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE
LEAST TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN
START DOING THE BENEFIT.
WE GIVE THAT ISN'T CLEAR.
YOU GET WHAT YOU START YOU HAVE
TO STAY FOR TWO YEARS.
FIFA JUST YOU CAN JUST LOOK BACK
TOWARDS HIM BACK INTO WERE YOU
CAN GO BACK DESK THE INDY I
AFTER TWO YEARS.
RIGHT BECAUSE AND I'M SORRY THE
LANGUAGE A LITTLE UNCLEAR TIME
POLITICS MISTER SAID NO NO NO I
APPRECIATE NO BUT I THINK YOU
KNOW WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE
SURE THAT WHAT HAPPENS WE DON'T
HAVE PEOPLE.
FLIPPING AND TRYING TO BENEFIT
AND THEN FLIPPING BACK OUT AGAIN
PRICE SO THAT'S RIGHT THE
PROVISION WHICH THEY HAVE TO
PULL THE MONEY IN THE ICE PAID
FOR BY THE EMPLOYER.
STI IS THE 1% THAT EVERYBODY
PAYS RIGHT AND SO I I'M JUST
TRYING TO NOT MAKE A A NEW.
LIABILITY FOR THOSE AN STI
WITHOUT YOU KNOW TRANSFERRING
OVER MISTER WILSON'S FUNDING
HE'S. TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT
EVERYBODY ELSE YOU KNOW
INDIRECTLY.
I MEAN THAT SO WHAT HAPPENS IS
YOU HAVE YOU ARE.
VIEW HEY YOU HAVE TO BE AND FOR
TWO YEARS [inaudible]
MINIMUM [inaudible]
MY WORKING. TWO COMMITTED DID
YOU WANT TO START THINKING.
SO -- ALSO.
I'M IT WOULD BE AN OPTION FOR
STATE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE
EXCLUDED.
AND THEY WOULD.
MAKE THAT OPTION AND SAID IT
WOULD BE AN STI.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY.
BE WITH A WOULD BE IN ROLE THAT
SYSTEM AB COLLECTING THAT
[inaudible]
P. COULD.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE COULD
COLLECTED BUT THEN THEY WOULD
HAVE TO BE IN THE SYSTEM FOR TWO
YEARS SAID HE WOULD BE RECOUPING
THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR
TRANSFERRING.
FUNDS THAT WERE IN AND THE I. TO
SD I PUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING
THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO WORK ON
BUT THAT IS NOT A PROVISION
THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE BILL TO
CLIMATE IS A BILL SAY THAT IF
YOU DON'T STAY THE FULL TWO
YEARS.
IT DOESN'T ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENS
IF YOU COULD WITH IT WOULDN'T BE
ABLE TO ROLL DOWN THE I SO WE
WERE GOING TO HAVE BEEN A TWO
YEAR RULE IF THERE'S ANOTHER
WOULD BE THEY WOULD BE.
YOU.
SO THEY'D BE COLLECTED WHEN THEY
CAME BACK FROM THEIR LEAVE THAT
WOULD BE IN SD I FOR TWO YEARS
AND SO THEY'D BE COLLECTING.
ON THAT TEACHERS CAN THAT WOULD
RECOVER THAT HUNDRED AND THIRTY
FIVE DOLLARS A WEEK THAT.
THREE OR WHATEVER IT IS THE
BENEFIT IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA
GET AND THEIR BENEFIT WOULD BE
BASED ON THE BASE PERIOD BEFORE
THAT SO THEY PROBABLY ONE IN
ROMANESTI I WEEK SOMETIME.
AND THEN.
THICK AS THIEVES TYPICALLY.
THIRD THERE IS SOME COMMENTED ON
PAGE FIVE OF THE ANALYSIS OF
THAT HELPS YOU MISTER OR LACK
SAYS THE ON GOING GENERAL FUND
SPECIAL FUNDS SAVINGS IN THE
RANGE OF TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS.
PER YEAR STARTING IN TWENTY
NINETEEN AS A RESULT OF REDUCE
INDIA PAYMENTS FOR EXCLUDED
STATE EMPLOYEES OPTING INTO THE
ESCAPE PROGRAM.
SO YOU'LL SEE A TWENTY MILLION
DOLLAR SAVINGS ARE [inaudible]
OKAY.
HOW TO SOME MORE DIGGING?
AND ALL MOVE THE BUILT.
BECAUSE PRACTICE SOME A
MINNESOTA LIFE OKAY.
SO THE BILL'S ADMITTED THERE ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS US --
FROM ENCINO OTHER QUESTIONS --
AND I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE SOME
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I
VOTED MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT
DOWN WITH US MORE LIKE ANYONE
ELSE.
IF THE BILL WERE TO MOVE
FORWARD.
TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT NEEDS
TO BE ADDRESSED OKAY HEALTH OF
THANK YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT --
CERTAINLY --
BILLS THAT IMPORT OPTIONS UP FOR
US TO CREATE THINGS FOR EXAMPLE
EXECUTIVE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CENTER MOSQUE
AND THE MOTION IS.
DO PASSED THE LABOR HERSELF DOES
GO TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE.
PAN HIGH PEN AYE MORRELL.
MORRELL AYE LEYVA.
BLOCK.
ALRIGHT BERLIN AYE PORTANTINO.
OKAY SO THAT VILLA THREE VOTES
IT'S ENOUGH TO GET OUT BOTH HOLD
THE BILL ON CALL AND ACTUALLY.
AT LEAST I WOULD HAVE.
FELT RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY CENTER
LARS NOW CHAIR OF LABOR'S THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING TO
HAVE A BILL GOV BETWEEN TWO
COMMITTEES LIKE [inaudible]
OKAY.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANKS VERY
MUCH.
ALRIGHT SO --
SENATOR RODRIGUEZ.
BUT UP NEXT WELCOME AND YOU HAVE
THAT WE HAVE TWO ITEMS.
ACTUALLY NO THREE ITEMS ITEMS
THAT DON'T RE-ATTEMPT.
WELL [inaudible]
SOME [inaudible]
ANYWAY.
WHAT LIKELIHOOD OF [inaudible]
NO LOVE.
WELCOME PLEASE BE IT THANK YOU
RISK YOUR MEMBERS ARE HERE TO
PRESENT A. B..
NINETEEN TWELVE AS YOU ALL
REMEMBER THE COMMITTEE AND MY
ASSEMBLY PURSE COMMITTEE
DISCUSSED THE DISSOLVE JPA
CAUGHT THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY
ALSO KNOWN AS ALLIE WORKS. FOR
THE RETURN BENEFITS OF INS POISE
AND RETIREES WERE CUT BY 63%.
THIS BILL PROVIDES RETIREMENT
SECURITY OF EMPLOYEES AND
RETIREES OF JP HAYES. TO PREVENT
ANOTHER ALLEY WORK FROM
HAPPENING AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
THIS BILL REQUIRES MEMBER
AGENCIES TO BE LIABLE FOR JP'S
PENSION OBLIGATIONS.
IF THE JPA TERMINATES DISSOLVES
OR STOPS OPERATIONS.
IF NONE OF THOSE THINGS OCCURRED
THEN THE JP EIGHT MEMBER
AGENCIES ARE NOT LIABLE FOR THE
PENSION OBLIGATIONS OF THE JPA.
HOWEVER IF ANY OF THOSE DO OCCUR
THE MEMBER AGENCIES HAVE TO
MUTUALLY AGREE. TO APPORTIONMENT
100% OF THE PENSION LIABILITY.
pJOINT AND SEVERAL LIABILITY
SUPPLIES.
THIS CREATES ACCOUNTABILITY IS
FOR THE JP AND THE MEMBER
AGENCIES TO PROVIDE RETIREMENT
SECURITY FOR THE JPA EMPLOYEES
AND RETIREES.
THIS BILL ALSO CLOSE THE GAP IN
EXISTING LAW BY PROHIBITING.
JP A MEMBER AGENCIES FROM BEING
ABLE TO DISCLAIM THE RETIREMENT
LIABILITY OF THE JPA WHICH THEY
CAN DO NOW.
WITH ME TODAY IS TERRY OF SLU
AND SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND THE
SANDY MESA WAS ONE OF THE MANY
AFFECTED RETIREES OF VALLEY
WORKS [inaudible]
TAKING WHAT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN SENATORS JERRY
BROWN IN BEHALF S. HERE YOU
CALIFORNIA APT APOLOGIZES. TO
ANY MAYES THAT COULD MAKE IT SHE
WAS ONE OF THE RETIREES --
BUT SHE WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO
FIND A JOB SO THAT SHE COULD
REPLACE SOME EVER LOST INCOME --
AND UNABLE TO MAKE IT --
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS
BILL YOU AND THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
AT A JOINT COMMITTEE.
TALKING ABOUT THE TRAVESTY OF HE
SAN GABRIEL.
IT'S BEEN AN EFFORT TO CLOSE A
LOOPHOLE IN THE LAW I MEAN I
THINK.
DEPENDING WHICH ENDED THE
TELESCOPE YOU LOOK FOR I THINK
WE ALL LOOK THROUGH WE ALL
ASSUMED.
THAT MEMBER AGENCIES WERE LIABLE
FOR THE RETIREMENT --
OBLIGATIONS OF THESE EMPLOYEES
SINCE THEY WERE THE FORMING
AGENCIES.
WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED IN THESE
CAN GABRIEL SITUATION THAT THEY
WERE IN FACT NOT WE'VE BEEN IN
NEGOTIATIONS WITH --
THE REPRESENTATIVES A MEMBER
AGENCIES JP A CITIES COUNTIES --
TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME
RESOLUTION THAT DIDN'T.
CREATE TOO MUCH HARDSHIP IN IN
DETERMINING THE LIABILITY BUT
STILL ASSIGNED A 100% LIABILITY
IN THE END AND WE THINK WE'VE
GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE.
EVERYBODY GETS TWO OR THREE
SHOTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO
THIS SO THAT IN THE AND THERE'S
PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THE
OBLIGATION.
AND WITH THAT I'D ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE AND I HOPE THAT MY
PLIGHT PASS WOULD ALLOW SENATOR
MORE LOCKED MOVED THE BILL. TO
PAY THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
RIGHT TO LIFE --
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS TEN TOP
AND FOR THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA SATE SUPERVISORS THE
CALIFORNIA STATE RETIREES.
AND THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS
IN CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT SINCE
FOXSPORTS.
THEY GIVE.
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JI SURPRISE
SUIT FOR THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT ALSO [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
SECURE MEMBER DEPARTMENT THERE
AND READING
ASSOCIATES-REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL
SCIENTISTS RETIRED.
UP PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION
PROPERTY SENSATION FIVE
PATROLMAN IN THE PEACE OFFICE
RESEARCH ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA OWN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
THANK.
ANY WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
MAKE SOME ROOM UP FOR THE TEST
FIRES.
MEMBERS DID NOT USE ILLEGAL
CALIFORNIA CITIES --
I'M ACTUALLY PROUD.
TO REPORT THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN
WORKING DILIGENTLY OVER THE
WEEKEND WITH THE WITH THAT WITH
THE AUTHOR STAFF --
AND WE'VE REACHING AGREEMENT
THAT WE BELIEVE --
WILL REMOVE THE OPPOSITION
SPECIFICALLY THE JOINED SEVERAL
LIABILITY WE'VE AGREED TO BE
REMOVED.
BUT INSTEAD I GAUGE INTO A THREE
STEP PROCESS AS MR BRITTON
STATED I'M BUT WE DO BELIEVE
THAT -- THAT
THIS WELL --
AT ACHIEVE THE SHARED GOAL THAT
--
THERE WE HAVE ENSURING THAT
RETIREES.
I WANT TO ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY
THANKS I CENTER PORTANTINO AND
HIS STAFF FOR HELPING BROKER
THIS COMPROMISE YOU'VE WORKED
REALLY HARD --
AND WE'RE BURKE GRATEFUL THAT WE
CAN -- ONCE
THE BILL IS THAT I IN PRINT TO A
HOPEFULLY RIVER OPPOSITION TO
THANK YOU [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
SURE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE --
TILL GIVENS THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISKS ASSOCIATION WANTED
TO I REITERATE THE COMMENTS MADE
BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM LEAGUE OF
CITIES --
THINK THE AUTHOR --
THE THE CHAIR THE COMMITTEE
STAFF CENTER PORTANTINO.
A MISTER TERRY BRENNAN TO EFFORT
MESSIER YOU FROM FROM FROM FROM
WORKING WITH US ON THIS --
BY TAT WE STILL HAVE SOME THE
SOME WORK TO DO THE BUT I
BELIEVE THAT --
WHERE WE'RE AT IS IN THE
DISCUSSIONS THAT SHOULD THE BILL
--
BE OMITTED WELL WHERE WE'RE AT
WITH THE GREEN WE WILL BE ABLE
TO REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION --
IT'S IT'S NOT A BILL THAT WE
WOULD COME IN AND SUPPORT --
HAVING --
RETROACTIVE LIABILITY IT'S SIDE
--
TO HAD NOT HAD THAT LIABILITY
PRIOR TO THIS LEGISLATION
HOWEVER WE WE DO BELIEVE IT
MEETS THE GOALS OF EVAN SHARING
THAT THAT EMPLOYEES.
I WHO HAVE EARNED A PENSION TO
REALLY END UP RECEIVING THAT
PENSION I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE
ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
APPRECIATE THE HARDWARE FROM
EVERYBODY ON THIS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
WHICH CHAIR MEMBERS GREG
COOKWARE PERCENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY WITH THE
BILL -- WITH
THE MEMBER SAYS MPRINT TODAY
I'M HERE TO WITHDRAW OUR
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL AND I
WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF AND
PUTS A RODRIGUEZ STAFF
FORGETTING SINCE POINT.
I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH BOTH THE
CONCERN THAT WE HAVE REGARDING
THE USE OF THE TERM REFORM IN
THE NEW SECTION THREE OF THE
BILL -- WITH
IT AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT'S
HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK ON TO GET
THAT.
DEFINITION CLEAR SO THAT DOES
NOT MEAN THAT ADDING A MEMBER OR
SUBTRACTING A MEMBER FROM THE
JPA WOULD RESULT IN THE REFORM
OF THAT DID OF THAT --
FACILITY SO.
BAD WITH THE BILL AS A PROPOSED
TO BE AS AMENDED AND WITH THE
CONSIDERATION OF THAT.
DEFINITIONAL TERM WELL WE
WITHDRAW OUR UP.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS MICHAEL
PIMENTEL HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
IN OPPOSITION WE ASK FOR NEVER.
HAVING TO ORDER SOME BEHALF OF
THE VENTURA COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IN
OPPOSITION [inaudible]
IF YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON DOROTHY JOHNSON
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND ALSO
HAVE MY COLLEAGUE THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION JOINT POWERS
AUTHORITIES.
ALIGN MY COMMENTS WITH MY
COLLEAGUES FROM THE LEAGUE OF
CITIES AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS
REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT
MADE HERE AND LOOK FOR ITS
REMOVING OUR OPPOSITION WITH THE
NEXT OF AMENDMENTS THINKING.
WELL ALEX GIVES TOWNS IN PUBLIC
AFFAIRS AND WE ARE STILL IN
PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE
AMENDMENTS BUT AND FORTUNE WILL
BE OPPOSING THE BILL AS WAS
PREVIOUSLY IN PRINT.
AND ON THE HAVE THE FOLLOWING
CITIES AS HE'S OF DANVILLE
DOUBLE IN PLEASANTON LIVERMORE
SAN RAMON UPON THE CREEK BELOW
MONTEREY F. WHEN APART INTO
BEACH MISSION VIEJO PLACENTIA
STAND HAPPEN BAY IN CARSON.
THANK YOU GREAT THANK YOU.
HER BLACKBURN OF ELSA MOST
ADVOCACY HERE WE HAVE THE CITY
OF LOCKING OUT OF FLINTRIDGE --
HAPPY TO REVIEW I HAVE HERE THE
THE I'M IMPROVEMENTS AND
REMARRIED WILL TAKE A LOOK AT
THE MINUTES BUT REMAIN OPPOSED
THE BILL IN PRINT THANK YOU.
TRAFFIC WHERE TOP ON BEHALF
ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
AUTHORITY WE TO HAVE AN OPPOSE
POSITION OF FOR THE BILL AS IT
IS IN PRINT RIGHT NOW --
BUT VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING THE AMENDMENTS AS THE
BILL MOVES FORWARD THANK YOU
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
OKAY.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY.
THE AMENDMENTS ARE NOT YET
INCRETIN YOU'LL BE TAKING THEM
AND OF PROCREATION.
OKAY AND ARE YOU GAVE
DESCRIPTION OF THAT WE HAVE A
TIGHT TIMELINE OF WE HAVE TO
DISH TOMORROW AND AND SO.
IN ORDER YOU GET ANOTHER SHOT
ALEXANDER.
YEAH COUNTY LEVINE HE WAS --
FIVE BEING GIVEN THE TIME LINES
WILL TAKE THE AMENDMENTS
BETWEEN.
OKAY VERY GOOD OKAY AND THE I
APPRECIATE YOUR POLITENESS
TOWARD CEREMONY.
RIGHT --
OKAY QUIT AT QUESTIONS AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS HAVE A
COMMENT BUT GO AHEAD OKAY
THURMOND I'D LOVE TO HEAR
SENATOR PORTANTINO BENNETT THAT
HE GIVE US ANY AMENDMENTS AS AS
OUR PORTANTINO --
OR SO I JUST WANT TO COMPLEMENT
EVERYBODY FOR WORKING FOR THE
LAST TWO WEEKS TO GET US TO THIS
POINT I THINK THAT.
WHOEVER WAS WHICH SAID THAT THE
THE OVERRIDING GOAL OF WANTING
TO PROTECT PENSIONS BUT MAKE DO
IT IN A WAY THAT MADE ECONOMIC
SENSE AND MADE LEGAL SENSE OF
HOW THAT LIABILITY.
AND RESPONSIBILITY WE WOULD GET
DE.
TAKING CARE WAS WAS.
SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY AGREED
SO THIS WAS BASICALLY GETTING TO
A POINT WHERE EVERYBODY AGREED
TO THE OUTCOME BUT HOW TO GET
THERE AND OBVIOUSLY --
BOTH LABOR AND THE LEAGUE IN THE
CITY'S CERTAIN OF WAS A LITTLE
BIT SURPRISED A LOCKING OUT
FLINTRIDGE WAS STILL SOME OPPOSE
SINCE THEIR CITY MANAGER.
WAS ON ALL THOSE CONFERENCE CALL
SIMON BE TALKING TO HIM --
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TO TO
HAVE.
YES BUT SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S
THREE SEPARATE.
BITES AT THE APPLE AND THEN
ULTIMATELY IF KEPT IF CALPERS
CAN'T.
COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT
THERE'S A FINAL RESOLUTION
THROUGH ARBITRATION.
THAT WOULD BE SIGNED IN A FAIR
AND EQUITABLE WAY SO NOBODY
COULD BE STUCK TO IN ESSENCE
NOBODY COULD BE STUCK FOR
LIABILITY THAT WASN'T GERMANE TO
THAT PARTICULAR.
CITY OR AGENCY BUT THE PERSON
BUT THE WORKER WHICH STILL HAVE
THEIR FULL BENEFIT PROTECTED.
AND THAT WAS THE GOAL YEAH AND
THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY AGREED TO
A PATH TO GET THERE.
THAT DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY PAYING
FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BAD BEHAVIOR.
OKAY SO I PROJECT EVERYBODY FOR
DOING SOMETHING I THINK YU
THURMOND THINKING RESEARCHER I'M
JUST CURIOUS IF WE PROPOSED
LEGISLATION AND TO GET IN FRONT
OF THESE JP HAYES.
I WOULD SAY HERE'S THE FORMULA.
ON HOW TO DEAL WITH RETIREMENT
BENEFITS.
AND IT'S GOT TO BE IN THE JPA
AGREEMENT AT THE BEGINNING HAS
ANYONE DONE THAT KIND OF BILL
[inaudible]
FIX IT STARTED OUT OF THE CHAIR
DEFEATED.
DOES SORRY THIS ACTUALLY ALLOWS
CALPERS TO ACCEPT.
PROPORTIONAL LIABILITY IN THE
CONTRACTS WHEN YOU'RE COMING
INTO CALPERS SO NEW GPAS.
CURRENTLY THEY'RE REQUIRED.
BY CALPERS RULE TO DO JOINT AND
SEVERAL LIABILITY THIS WOULD
ALLOW THEM TO COME IN AND COME
IN WITH A PROPORTIONAL
AGREEMENT.
AND GO TO HEAR THE FIVE AGENCIES
HERE'S THEIR SHARE OF LIABILITY
SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN.
AND THEN THEY SIGN UP
ACCORDINGLY PAIR --
THERE ARE ABOUT THREE FIRE
AGENCIES WHO ARE WAITING TO COME
AND ON THAT PROPORTIONAL
LIABILITY AGREEMENT PROCESS.
OKAY OKAY THEN WILL WAIT FOR
CALPERS TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF
BELIEFS OR OR OR NEW POLICY
CHANGE AND THAT THAT THAT WOULD
MAKE THAT WOULD FINISH ALL THE
STEP.
TO THE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK
CENTER PORTANTINO MISTER CHAIR I
HAVE ONE LAST COMMENT OBVIOUSLY.
YES OR NO TO ACTUALLY CENTER
MORALE GO AHEAD ON THIS AND THEN
COME BACK TO YOU.
TIMES TOMORROW.
I'M GONNA --
LIPS TO HOLD UP ON THIS UNTIL WE
GET THOSE AMENDMENTS A FULL CAN
ONLY DONE BUT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR WORKING AND WITH
EVERYONE.
THINKING.
THERE PORTANTINO I'M JUST GONNA
SAY OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE SHE DID
DISH AND THEN IT WENT UP AND
APPROPRIATIONS SO.
I ANTICIPATED ALL WERE LIKE
SOMEBODY ELSE DISSIPATED ALL
WORKING OUT AND I'LL BE VOTING
FOR TODAY I NOTICED A PATIENT OF
AN ALL WORKING OUT.
IF.
I GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE
RIGHT EXCELLENT ALRIGHT SO THAT
IS OUR MOTION.
OBSERVERS HAVE MOVED THE UC
AXLE.
EXCELLENT SO AGAIN I OF I THINK
YOU SO MUCH US IN RODRIGUEZ FOR
YOUR WORK IN THAT AT ALL
STAKEHOLDERS TO COME TOGETHER
AND DECIDED WE KEEP AN EYE ON
THE BALL WHICH IS THOUGHT TO BE
SURE THE WORKERS --
GET THAT THEIR RETIREMENT
PROTECTED LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY
TO GET THERE AND I APPRECIATE
THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT.
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE.
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY
FOR HELPING US WORKING ON THIS
BILL THANK THE SENATOR --
FOR PORTANTINO FOR BRING SOME
FOLKS TOGETHER TO THE TABLE LAST
WEEK IN WITHOUT ATTRACTION Y.
BOTH THINKING OKAY EXCITED SO
THE MOTION IS TO PASS --
BUT FIRST.
I RE REFER TO SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE TO MOVE BY CENTER
PORTANTINO SECOND PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL AND I THEN I THROW
[inaudible]
LEYVA [inaudible]
MORE LIKE.
PORTANTINO AYE PORTANTINO AYE.
OKAY SO THAT BILLS CURRENTLY HAS
TWO VOTES WILL PUT THE BILL ON
CALL.
THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT SO.
OKAY -- NEXT
BILL IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AB
[inaudible]
TWENTY THREE OH FIVE I THINK.
RIGHT HERE ELOQUENT.
THANK YOU AGAIN MISTER CHAIRMAN
BURST.
AB TWENTY ZERO FIVE QUALIFYING
EXISTING.
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES RELATIONS BOARD
OR PER CASE WHICH GIVES PER
JURISDICTION OVER PEACE OFFICER
EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION DISPUTES.
THE NINETEEN NINETY NINE
LEGISLATION WERE INTRODUCED TO
GET PER EXECUTIVE.
EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER
VIOLATIONS OF ANY RULES OR
REGULATIONS BY LOCAL AGENCIES
HOWEVER THAT EXCLUDED ANY
RECOGNIZE EMPLOYER ORGANIZATIONS
WHO REPRESENTS.
PEACE OFFICERS AS RESULT.
PEACE OFFICER MUST TAKE THEIR
DISTRICT.
SUPER COURTS ARE NOT THE ONLY
NOT ONLY COSTLY.
BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT WELL
EQUIPPED TO COVER LABOR CASES
LIKE PER.
AB TWENTY THREE OR FIVE WILL
GIVE SMALL PIECE OF CERTAIN HIS
ACTIONS ABILITY TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES AGAINST UNFAIR LABOR
PRACTICES.
CONTRACT DISPUTES AND BAD FAITH
BARGAINING.
WITH ME THAT TODAY THE TESTS
FIND HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE IS TOM DOMINGUEZ
PRESIDENT ASSOCIATION OF ORANGE
COUNTY DEPUTY SHERIFFS.
AND SHAME ON BEHALF OF THE
SPONSORS.
I THINK YOU WELCOME THAT BECAUSE
MR.
PROMPT ON TO MAKE IT SOME
PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION
ORANGE COUNTY DEPUTY SHERIFFS --
UNDER CURRENT LAW LABOR DISPUTES
INVOLVING PEACE OFFICERS MUST BE
HEARD SUPERIOR COURT OR
EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCE IN
MANY OF OUR OFFICERS.
AND PEACE OFFICERS IN THE STATE
STATEWIDE IS THAT SUPERIOR COURT
SIMPLY ISN'T THE BEST VENUE OF
FOR LABOR DISPUTES FOR ONE
REASON IS SIMPLY TOO EXPENSIVE
ANDCOST PROHIBITIVE.
WE DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED
RESOURCES TO TRY EVERY SINGLE
CASE IN MANY INSTANCES OUR
MEMBERS HAVE OPTED OUT.
OF SENDING LABOR CLAIMS CLAIMS
INCLUDING UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
IN BREACH OF CONTRACT TO COURT
BECAUSE OF HOW COST PROHIBITIVE.
IT CAN BE TO AN OFFICER.
SECOND PER BAZZI SAID HAS A
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE A TO
HEAR THESE CASES AND HAS A DEEP
UNDERSTANDING OF LABOR CONTRACTS
AND DISPUTES MANY TIMES SUPERIOR
COURT JUDGES HAVE NEVER HEARD.
I BELIEVE THAT HER LABOR DISPUTE
BEFORE.
AND THIRD ALLOWING PURVA HANDLE
ALL LABOR DISPUTES FOR PEACE
OFFICERS ALLOWS.
SMALLER PEACE OFFICERS UNIT
UNIONS THE ABILITY TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES AGAINST BAD FAITH
BARGAINING WHICH MANY SMALLER
STE ASSOCIATION SIMPLY DON'T
FIGHT BECAUSE THEY LACK THE
RESOURCES.
I CAN CITE A CASE OUT OF SANTA
CLARA.
TOM IT WERE --
AND AND IN A CASE FOR THIS
PROPER CASE WHICH IS BILL SIX
THE CODIFIED TO DISPUTE
CONCERNED REIMBURSEMENT FOR
TRAINING IN TUITION FEES.
RANGING A THAT --
BERMAN ABOUT FORTY FIVE TO TWO
HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS A PIECE --
WHICH TOTAL ABOUT --
THE EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION WAS
FORCED TO DEFEND THESE
[inaudible]
RIGHTS I RELATED TO THESE.
ISSUES FOR SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT
OF MONEY AND AND VALUE THROUGH
LITIGATION.
SO.
THEY BASICALLY UP WHAT'S THE THE
LABOR ASSOCIATION THAT THE
POLICE UNIONS --
YOU KNOW ANNA AND A VERY
DIFFICULT POSITION ONE WORD
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL
AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND HAVING TO
GO TO SUPERIOR COURT. TO TO TO
TAKE UPON --
THESE CHARGES.
AND LASTLY UNLIKE AB FIVE THIRTY
LAST YEAR WHICH WE SPONSORED AB
TWENTY THREE OH FIVE SIMPLY
CODIFIES EXISTING.
CASE LAW WHICH PERMITS PURPOSE
TO HEAR CLAIMS I BY PEACE
OFFICER EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS
AND FOR THESE REASONS WE REQUEST
YOUR YES VOTE ON AB TWENTY THREE
OH FIVE THANK YOU.
THE NEXT WITNESS.
SECURE MEMBERSHIP LEVINE ON
BEHALF OF US USE ONLY A THE
SACRAMENTO DEPUTY SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION LONG BEACH POLICE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION QUICKER OR
POLICE CALIFORNIA LAW CALLS FOR
AREAS WHERE.
OKAY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SO CHAIR RANGING THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION ALSO
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
RIGHT I WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE COMMITTEE MEMBER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
OKAY THINGS DONE OKAY.
ALRIGHT --
SO ACTUALLY I JUST WANT TO WHILE
RAISE ONE ISSUE THAT'S COME UP
BUT RECENTLY AND WHICH WAS --
SO THERE IS AN ISSUE ABOUT
WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A PAL
THROUGH VISION --
THAT --
SUPERIOR COURT APPLIES WHEN.
SIR WHERE THERE'S A IS AND THE
PURPOSE OF THE I THINK THAT'S
THE AB RELATED EMPLOYER BE SURE
THAT WE SEND THE CASE TO THE
RIGHT PLACES SO I'VE REALIZE WE
DO NOT.
THIS IS THAT WE DO NOT ASK FOR
ANY AMENDMENTS RATING RELATED TO
THAT THE TO SIR CAME UP MORE
RECENTLY SO THAT THERE NEEDS TO
BE.
A SORT OF PARALLEL TO BE SURE
THAT WE DON'T HAVE CASES GOING
TO US SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT.
YOU CAN WORK ON IT FROM --
MISTER CHAIR --
SO WE HAVE.
BEEN IN.
TOUCH WITH THE COMMITTEE ABOUT
THOSE WE DON'T GO BACK TO
ATTORNEYS IN MOBILE SEEK TO DO
SOME DRAFTING --
THEN AND BRING BACK FOR THE
COMMITTEE FOR YOUR OF YOUR POOL
OKAY ALL RIGHT SO I THINK I
THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING
JUST.
IT'S ARE TIDY UP THEN THE THINGS
SO ALRIGHT OKAY EXCELLENT SO BUT
OTHERWISE I CERTAINLY WILL BE
VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS --
THE SAID BILL BUT IS THERE A
MOTION.
OKAY IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SARAH
PORTANTINO I WOULD LIKE TO
CLOSE.
BUT RESPECTFULLY ASK HER ABOUT
THANK YOU.
AFFECTS OUR IDEAS ARE SO THE
MOTION IS TO PASS BUT FIRST
THREE REFERRED TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE --
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CENTER
PORTANTINO SEXUALLY PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL PANTAI AND I MARIO.
WORLD NO LEYVA MORLOCK WELL NOT
NOW [inaudible]
PORTANTINO I SO THAT.
SO THAT PHIL IS SET TO TO AND
THAT WILL PUT THE BILL ON CALL
OKAY THANK YOU THANK YOU THE
ACT.
SENATE FINALLY YOU HAVE --
ITEM NUMBER TEN CV.
TWENTY NINETY SIX BUT ENCOURAGED
HER MEMBERS I'M HERE TO PRESENT
AB.
TWENTY SIX NINETY SIX LASHER MY
BILL A. B. FOURTEEN EIGHTY SEVEN
THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR
STAFFERS CONDITIONS. FOR OUT OF
CLASS APPOINTMENTS AND
PENALTIES.
FOR NON COMPLIANCE SINCE THEN
I'VE LEARNED THAT THE
INTERPRETATION TO CALCULATE
PENALTIES FOR NON COMPLIANCE MAY
NOT BE CLEAR.
THIS BILL SIMPLY CARE CLARIFIES
THE INTENT AND CALCULATION
ABILITIES AND THE REGINA BILL
WHICH IS EXISTING LAW.
A. B. TWENTY SIX NINETY SIX A
SPONSORED BY THE CALIFORNIA
FRESNO FIREFIGHTERS.
AND WITH ME TODAY IS REPRESENT
OUR TO PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS AND
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN SENATORS DOUG SHIVERS
UP WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS OF
POLICE TO SPONSOR THE BILL AND
IMPORTANT THANK THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FOR BRINGING FORWARD WE
DO THINK THIS IS A CLEAN UP BILL
THAT CLARIFIES THE INTENT OF OF
THE BILL LAST YEAR AND WE
THINK.%
MOVING THIS FORWARD WILL
ACTUALLY ALLOW.
I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS A
SUPPORT.
HARRY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THING ON QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
NONE EMOTION.
OKAY DIMENSION AND MOVED OUT.
SO YOU CAN CREATE CLEAN UP THE
WHICH LIKE THE CLOTHES THAT ARE
OUT PROJECT LAST FRIDAY VOTE
THEY CAN THANK YOU ALL RIGHT SO
--
THIS. FOR THE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE FOR EFFORTS WE REFERRED
CENTER APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
SPIN MOVE BY CENTER PORTANTINO
SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL HIM
HI CAN I GROW.
GROWTH NO LEYVA MORLOCK.
MORE LIKE NO PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO AYE OKAY THAT DOES TO
TO FIT THE BILL CALL THANKS
THANK YOU.
WRITER.
YES [inaudible]
MEMORIES BILL ON I I'D LIKE TO
MOVE THE CAN.
OKAY SO OF ACCORDING TO OUR
PARENTS A WE SHOULD ALWAYS LOOK
AT THE END.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE TESTIFYING
AGAINST EUROPE.
THAT SOME OF US LEAVE EARLY
WILL.
TO TE CONSENT RIGHT AWAY EITHER.
I KNOW [inaudible]
BOB HERTZBERG.
I KNOW I TALKED OR PROLETARIAN
FILTERED THE ALRIGHT --
WELCOME LEAD TO AS THE SO ITEM
NUMBER THREE AB NINETEEN TEAMED
SEVEN WERE COOPER WELCOME.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
A. B. NINETEEN SIXTEEN WILL HELP
CLOSE THE GENDER AND ETHNICITY
PAY GAP WITH THE UNDER
REPRESENTATION OF WOMEN AND
MINORITIES IN STATE CIVIL
SERVICE.
CLASSIFICATION.
RACIAL AND ETHNIC DISPARITIES
REMAIN AN ISSUE.
AFRICAN AMERICAN HISPANIC WOMEN
OF JUST SIXTY FOUR AND FORTY
FOUR SINCE THE ACTIVELY FOR
DOLLAR A MANNER.
AB NINETEEN SIXTEEN REQUIRES
STATE AGENCIES A PRETTY DETAILED
REPORT BY ITALY ON GENDER AND
ETHNICITY WAGE DISPARITY.
AND THEN REPRESENTATION OF WOMEN
AND MINORITIES AND INCLUDE A
DETAILED TIMELINE FOR ME THE
GOAL OF THE WAGE PARITY IN
RECRUITING.
ATTRACTING AND RETAINING WOMEN
MINORITIES THERE'S NO OPPOSITION
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR I'VE.
I THINK YOU --
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
WITH YOUR MEMBERS BRIAN NELSON
DON'T HAPPEN AMERICAN FEDERATION
OF STATE COUNTY MUNICIPAL
EMPLOYEES EYES STRONG SUPPORT.
THINKING.
MICHAEL YOUNG WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION ALSO
SUPPORT THINKING. FIVE TEN TOP
IN FOR THE OFFICIAL ENGINEERS IN
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT AND THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA STATE
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN RESPECT MEDICARE
AND READING ASSOCIATES
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL
SCIENTISTS IN STRONG SUPPORT
PICK YOU THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT ANY WITNESSES
OPPOSITION.
FACING DOWN QUESTIONS FOR THE
MANY MEMBERS.
THE NUNS A MOTION ON THE BILL.
OKAY IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CENTER
PORTANTINO --
SO I'M APPRECIATE THAT --
THAT WE'RE DESPITE THIS BILL IN
TERMS OF FOR BEING SHIRLEY ON
EVALUATION IN BANJA REPORT WHICH
ELECT CLOSE SOME COOPER OUR
STEFFI AUSTRIA I'VE OF OKAY
THANK YOU ALRIGHT SO THE MOTION
IS -- DO
PASSED THE FIRST REFERRED TO
SEND APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEES
MOVE BY CENTER FOURTEEN ETCETERA
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL PAN AYE PAN
AYE MURROW.
AYE THROW AYE LEYVA MORLOCK.
MALEK NO PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO AYE [inaudible]
RIGHT.
OKAY OF WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR
FURTHER AUTHORS.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND THE ACTION
WE HAVE SEVERAL BILLS THAT WE
HAVEN'T GOT MOTIONS ON SO FIRST
OF ALL -- WE
HAVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB. TWENTY
ONE SEVEN THIS --
FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHIU A
PUBLIC EMPLOYEE YEARS SIMPLY
ORGANIZATIONS --
IS THERE A MOTION.
THAT'S BEEN MOVED BY SIR
PORTANTINO --
THE MOTIONS TO PASSED THE FIRST
RE REFER TO SAID APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL PAN AYE AYE AND I GROW.
HEALTH GROVE NO FAVOR MORE LARK.
FOR LIKE NO PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO AYE OKAY THAT BILLS
--
IS TO TO AND IS ON CALL --
THE NEXT BILL IS ACTUALLY AS
ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN AB THREE OH
THREE FOUR ASSEMBLY BY SOME
REMEMBER LOW PUBLIC TRANSIT
EMPLOYER EMPLOYEE RELATIONS.
FIFTIES GOV PART.
A DISTRICT DOES DEVOTION.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
PORTANTINO --
CITY AND THE MOTION IS.
OKAY I DO PASSED THE FIRST RE
REFER TO SET APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE OF SECURITIES CALL THE
ROLL PAN.
AYE PAM AYE MORAL.
GROUND NO LEVER MORLOCK NO MORE
LIKE NO PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO AYE OKAY SO THAT
BILLS -- TO
TO AND THAT BILL IS ON CALL.
ALRIGHT.
AND I SEE A SILVER CAO THEIR OWN
WELCOME. TO COME STRAIGHT UP
HERE.
OKAY SO WE HAVE --
ITEM.
EIGHT AB TWENTY FOUR FIFTEEN
MAKOTO WELCOME.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS LIKE TO START BY
ACCEPTING THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD PHASE IN
ANY SALARY INCREASE FOR AN
INCUMBENT EMPLOYEE AND THINK.
YOUR STAFF HELPED ME REFINE THE
BILL.
BECAUSE STATE LAW GIVES CALPERS
BOARD -- OF
ADMINISTRATION THE AUTHORITY TO
APPOINT AND FIX THE COMPENSATION
OF ITS CEO GENERAL COUNSEL CHIEF
ACTUARY CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER
CFO AND OTHER INVESTMENT
MANAGEMENT POSITIONS.
WITH AUTHORITY ALLOWS CALPERS TO
SET COMPENSATION FOR THESE
POSITIONS SO AS TO BE
COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER AGENCIES
AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
FOR PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES
HOWEVER CALPERS DOES NOT HAVE
THE AUTHORITY TO SET THE
COMPENSATION FOR IT CHIEF HEALTH
DIRECTOR OR DEPUTY EXECUTIVE
OFFICER POSITIONS.
HAVING COMPENSATION FOR ITS C.
H. D. AND D. E. YELLOW POSITION
SET BELOW THAT OF SIMILAR
AGENCIES AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR
MAKES IT'S DIFFICULT. FOR THE
CALPERS PURRS BOARD TO RECRUIT
AND RETAIN TALENT IN THESE
POSITIONS A NEAR CONSTANT HIRING
PROCESS FOR THESE POSITIONS
UNDERMINES CALPERS IS ABILITY.
TO PLAN FOR THE SUCCESSION OF
ITS.
SHIRI DUTIES THIS BILL WILL GIVE
THE CALPERS BOARD OF THE
AUTHORITY TO APPOINT AND FIX THE
COMPENSATION OF ITS CHD NDL ARE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE.
AND WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT IS SCOTT BLACKLEDGE WITH
CALPERS [inaudible]
A WELCOME.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU MAJORITY
LEADER CALDERON POUR OUT FOR
GREEN TO OFFER THE BILL.
SCOTT BLACKLEDGE REPRESENTING
CALPERS --
THE BOARD HAD IS --
SEEKING AN EXTENSION OF ITS A
CELL RESETTING AUTHORITY FOR
THESE TWO EXECUTIVE POSITIONS
ONE WOULD BE FEE FOR THE CHIEF
HEALTH DIRECTOR.
AND THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR A
CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER --
AND WITH THESE POSITIONS --
THEY ARE KEY.
TO FINDING COST SAVINGS WITHIN
OUR PROGRAM SUCH AS ARE.
A NINE BILLION DOLLAR SPENDING
IN OUR HELP PROGRAM FOR ONE
POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS --
PARTICIPANTS --
WE'VE HAD NO.
ISSUES --
MAINTAINING PEOPLE IN THESE
POSITIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO SEEK HIGHER SALARIES
IN OTHER STATE AGENCIES AS WELL
AS IN THE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
AND WE'VE IT TO SECURE APPROVAL
OF THIS BILL.
OKAY THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES
SUPPORT.
THING HUTCHINGS LEAGUE
CALIFORNIA CITIES SIZE SUPPORT
THE BILL FIX IMPORTANT --
TO ENABLED THE EXECUTIVES THAT
CALPERS BY TO TRACK ENTERTAIN
THE MOST QUALIFIED FOLKS TO
ENSURE THAT WE CAN.
I HAVE A VERY --
AYE BENEFICIAL SYSTEM FOR THE
RETIREES AND THE ANTHONY
EMPLOYERS TRANSPORT THINKING I
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON DOROTHY JOHNSON
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES AND ALSO OF MY
COLLEAGUE THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION PLEASE A
SUPPORT FOR THE REASONS
PREVIOUSLY STATED THANK YOU.
THANK YOU --
FOR WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
A NON QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. SEVEN MORE LUCK.
THANK YOU SECURE --
CALPERS HAD LITTLE BIT OF PRESS
THE LAST WEEK OR SO AND AND SO
--
KNOWING THAT THE SALARIES ITS
OFFER TO THE CIO.
IS IS THE BASE PLUS INCENTIVES
FOR PROVIDING.
ALFA ABOVE A CERTAIN BENCHMARK
--
THAT MIGHT BE GOOD TO
COMMUNICATE SO MISTER BLACKLEDGE
MAYBE YOU COULD.
SORT OF EXPLAIN [inaudible]
YOUR COMPENSATION.
PROCEDURES SO THAT HER WE CAN
EXPEDITOR CONSTITUENTS AND WHY
IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THAT.
ABSOLUTELY --
I THINK I CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON
THIS -- AS A
COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OUR CREW
CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER
ANNOUNCED THAT HE WOULD BE
LEAVING OF THE SYSTEM AND SO
RIGHT NOW THE BOARD IS IN THE
PROCESS OF OF OF RECRUITMENT AND
ALONG WITH THAT.
THEY ALL HAVE ORDERED ESTABLISH
[inaudible]
SALARY RANGE --
AND A COMPENSATION PACKAGE
POTENTIAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE
FOR THE CHIEF INVESTMENT
OFFICER.
AND THE BOOK THE THE BULK OF THE
COMPENSATION IS IN THE SENATE
PAY -- I
THINK THAT YOU SEEN HEADLINES OF
IT WAS ONE POINT SEVEN MILLION
DOLLARS AND SO.
THE THE TOP OF THE SALARY
COMPENSATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR
STE CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER
POSITION.
IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS THE REST ISN'T
SENATE AND IT'S BASED ON
SUSTAINED OUTPERFORMANCE OVER
BENCHMARKS OVER A MOST MULTIPLE
YEAR PERIOD.
AND SO IF THAT WERE THE CASE AND
WERE GETTING DOES --
THOSE OUTSIZE RETURNS THAT'S
GOING TO IN TURN REDUCED THE
THAT THE PENSION COSTS FOR
EMPLOYERS AND ALSO.
FOR OUR MEMBERS WHO ARE REQUIRED
TO PAY HALF THE COST.
AND SO --
YEAH I WHICH IS GOING TO ADD
THAT.
THE BOARD HAS HAD THE SALARY
SETTING AUTHORITY FOR FIFTEEN
YEARS AND THERE FOLLOWED TO OR
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE
SAME TYPES OF GUIDELINES PICK
KELLY CHAR.
AND OUR WAY TO TELL THE
VACATIONS AND SO THIS IS ALL
DONE IN AN OPEN PROCESS.
AND WE RETAIN --
FIRMS ADD TO PROVIDE SALARY
SURVEYS INTO --
AND TO GO OUT AND FIND THE BEST
CANDIDATES WEEKEND FOR THESE
POSITIONS.
SO IF WE WERE TO DO THE MATH AND
AND SO YOU'RE CHAU OUTPERFORMS
THE BENCHMARK.
YOU GOT WHAT. THREE HUNDRED
BILLION UNDER MANAGEMENT REACH
FIFTY THAT SAFETY AND IF HE'S
EVEN JUST YOU KNOW. 1% ABOVE THE
BENCHMARK THAT.
A BIG NUMBER RIGHT WE'RE TALKING
SO.
THE ONE POINT SEVEN MILLION.
IT'S SORT THIS SORT OF SPIRIT
BECAUSE REPORT WE'RE PAYING OUR
MONEY MANAGERS ARE OUTSIDE FIRMS
TO MANAGE MONEY.
QUITE A BIT YES FAN SO WORD FOR
WORD WE WANT WE WANT THE BEST.
ONE TO COMPENSATE PEOPLE
APPROPRIATELY.
I GIVE ONE EXAMPLE OF OF SOMEONE
WHO WAS RUNNING RESURRECTED ONE
OF OUR STATE FAIRS.
OR SHOULD BE COUNTY FAIRS AND
THAT HE WAS HIRED AT THE STATE
FAIR AND ALISON IS IN A
STATEMENT A GREAT AND ALL THE
SUDDEN HE'S GOT TAKE A PAY CUT.
THAT TO RUN THE BIGGEST
[inaudible]
STATE.
BUT THE BIGGEST BEAR IN THE
STATE SO WAS KIND OF A LABOR OF
LOVE BUT YOU KIND OF WANNA.
INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE PROPERLY TO
THIRD TAKING ON A BIGGER ROLE IN
THIS IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
ROLE FINANCE AND SO I I I I I
HAVE.
I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT IN
THE RECORD THAT THAT.
EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE NUMBERS
MAY SOUND BIG THAT IF YOU GET
THE SCALE AND WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AND WHAT COULD --
HAPPEN WITH A WITH A REALLY
GOOD.
CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER AND I
KNOW ITS STRENGTH FROM THESE TWO
POSITIONS BUYS ONE TO MAKE THE
POINT.
THAT THAT SOMETIMES IS MY MOTHER
YOU SAY WHEN I WAS GROWING UP
YOU GOT TO SPEND A DIME TO MAKE
A QUARTER.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO
MOVE THE BILL MISTER CHAIR.
OKAY WELL THANK YOU FOR THE
MOTION AND THAT WILL TAKE THAT
APPROPRIATE TIME --
CENTER MORRELL.
YES SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE
CAUTIOUS BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY I WAS AT A DINNER FEW
MONTHS AGO ON OUR GOVERNOR AT
THAT DINNER SET ON THAT THESE
PENSIONS ARE TAKING.
A TIME BOMB THAT THEY WILL
EXPLODE SOMEDAY AND LOOKING AT
THE PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST
FEW YEARS --
IT HASN'T DONE VERY WELL AND SO
ON BY I THINK TO PAY SOMEONE --
MONEY FOR THIS IS IS A GOOD IT'S
A WISE THING BUT ALSO I THINK I
THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD GO STEP
FURTHER AND REMEMBER THAT YOU
KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE SERVING THE
PUBLIC YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS AND
SO.
ON I'D RATHER SEE RESULTS FIRST.
MMHM BEFORE AN INCREASE IN PAY
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WILL BE A NO
VOTE ON AND OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY OTHER QUESTIONS --
SO I JUST I JUST WANNA SAY THAT
--
FIRST VOTER APPRECIATE THE SOME
RICARDO YOU BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD NOW I'VE IF THAT HAD
MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH.
BOTH THEIR PENSION FUNDS IT'S
TIME CALPERS PREVIOUSLY HAD A
CAL STIRS BILL --
ABOUT --
ESSENTIAL ABOUT THE THESE
EXCEPTIONS I WOULD SAY --
AND AND THAT AND THE KILL THEY
HAVE BEEN AROUND OF FOR
PARTICULIER STARTING WITH
INVESTMENT OFFICERS SWITCHER.
ITS FAIRLY UNIQUE POSITIONS IN
THE SENSE THAT WE DON'T REALLY
HAVE QUITE THE QUIVER ONCE I
MEAN ONE CAN ARGUE WHETHER
TREASURES OFFICE BUT THEY'RE
DEALING WITH THEM IN BONDS AND
SO FORTH --
AND AND THE NEED TO BE
COMPETITIVE THAT WHAT THOSE
POSITIONS.
AND AND THEN --
CAO -- WE
DID -- NOW
WE'RE HAVING WE GET CO OVER AT
CAL STIRS NOW IF CEO HERE --
NOW YES THE HOLES --
MANAGERS WELL.
AND ON THE HILL AND THAT.
WHAT WE CAN OFFER UNDER THE
CURRENT SIR SALLY STRUCTURES NOT
VERY COMPETITIVE --
AND GET GIVEN THE TYPE OF WORK
AND WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR PAYS
--
SAMETIME --
I ALSO I THINK THAT --
AS INDICATED BEFORE AN EARLIER
DISCUSSION THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
ACTUALLY WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO
WORK FOR THE STATE TAG MEDIUM
TAKING PAY CUTS FROM WHAT THEY
WERE ABLE TO GET WHETHER IN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR OTHER TYPES
SIMILAR SITUATIONS I A PART OF
ME DOES ONE DO.
INSTEAD OF ALWAYS WORKING AROUND
THAT MAY WE SHOULD BE REFORMING
THE SYSTEM ITSELF AND I HAVE
SEEN I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD.
CONVERSATIONS CAL HR.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD EXTENSIVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH PURRS AND
STIRRERS ABOUT THIS AS WELL --
AND EVER AND AND I WOULD BIG
NOSE TO THAT --
THAT.
WELL THE INVESTMENT PERSONNEL
WERE PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE
UNIQUE TO THESE A CHIEF
OPERATING OFFICER.
YOU KNOW --
THERE ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE LARGE
MANAGE VERY LARGE AGENCIES HERE
IN THE STATE --
MEDICAL IS A VERY LARGE
HEALTHCARE PURCHASER YOU KNOW
AND THAT YOU KNOW THE DIRECTOR
DC IT'S ADDRESS SO --
AT THAT BUT I ALSO MAKE NOTE
THAT OUT SECURE --
FOR ON THAT SIDE THAT THEY OFTEN
HAVE TROUBLE RECRUITING AS WELL
AND FILLING GETTING PEOPLE TO
FILL THOSE POSITION SO.
I TO ME THERE IS A LARGER AND
HARRIET PROBLEM WE NEED TO DEAL
WITH IN TERMS OF ARE ABILITY TO
RECRUIT AND AND COMPENSATE THE
OUR STATE WORKERS --
AT ALL LEVELS AND INCLUDING
LEVEL -- AT
THAT THAT THAT WE REALLY SHOULD
HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT --
AND ACTUALLY WELL TO BE FAIR
WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL
CONVERSATION OTHERWISE I DON'T
KNOW.
SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING IN THIS
CHAIRMANSHIP FOR FOUR YEARS THE
LIGHTSABER TO TRYING TO MAKE
SOME HEADWAY --
BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE
MORE WORK --
WHY DON'T WANT TO SEE IS?
MORE AND MORE POSITIONS REQUESTS
FOR MORE MORE POSITIONS.
COMING.
OUT SO I MEAN WE'VE DID
INVESTMENT PERSONNEL I GOT THAT
NOW WE'RE DOING CO.
CHIEF YOU KNOW HEALTH NEGOTIATOR
AND AGAIN AS I THINK WAS POINT
OUT BY SENATOR --
MORE LOCK --
DISARMS YOU'RE DEALING WITH I
MEAN THE SALARIES.
YEAH I HEARD THAT CUTLER IT AS A
PROPORTION OF THE SUMS ARE
DEALING WITH AND THE POTENTIAL
WITH A SKILLED PERSON OF SAVINGS
THEY COULD MAKE OUR RETURNS THEY
CAN GET.
NOW SOLELY OUT SKILL THE SALARY
I MEAN TO STATE WINS IF WE CAN
GET OUT OF WHEN WE CAN GET
TALENTED PEOPLE TO DO THAT --
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD
ADDRESS THIS ALSO THAT MORE
SYSTEMATIC WAY THEN CARVING
POSITION AFTER POSITION OUT OVER
TIME.
AND SO -- MY
MIND EYE WILL SUPPORT THESE
TODAY I CERTAINLY HOPE TO NOT
SEE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR MORE
POSITIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN
ENGAGE IN OF MORE SERIOUS
DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW YOU PROVE
COMPENSATION ACROSS THE BOARD SO
THAT.
STIRS AND PURRS AND THE REST OF
THE STATE CAN RECRUIT THE THAT
THE TALENT THAT WE NEED TO BE
ABLE.
TO SERVE THE PEOPLE CALIFORNIA
AT AT AND AND YOU KNOW IT'S A
BIG STATES OF PEOPLE RUNNING
BEYOND BUT AT THAT MAKE RUNNING
BIG THINGS AND AND DID MAKING
DECISIONS AFFECT LOTS OF PEOPLE
--
BUT I DO APPRECIATE --
THAT IS AMERICA BROWN THAT
YOU'RE WILLING TO PICK UP THE
THAT THE TIME TO TELL LEAST TRY
TO TAKE CARE OF THIS IMMEDIATE
ISSUE.
AND BUT I'M ALSO HOPING THAT WE
CAN -- NAM
NOT HAVE ANOTHER BILL LIKE THIS
IN THE FUTURE AND SAID TRY.
TO ADDRESS THE MORE SYSTEMATIC
ISSUES SO WITH THAT --
IS THERE A MOTION.
ON THE COMMISSION WRITTEN WITH
AN ADULT THAT I DID IT YOU DID
MOVE YES THAT'S AYE SIR
MOCKUMENTARY BUT IT IS HOW I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RAISING
YOUR POINTS MISTER CHAIR BECAUSE
WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS A
CALPERS.
WE GET THE EMAILS.
AND CAN'T AND WE GET OUR NAMES
PRINTED IN ARTICLES TO CONTACT
US ON ON THIS COMMITTEE
[inaudible]
SO.
HIGHER WELL IN.
S. DON'T GIVE ME ANY EMAILS.
REALLY NOTED THAT INTO.
IT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TAKING
THE AMENDMENTS AND
APPROPRIATIONS I THINK OKAY
EXCELLENT.
RIGHT ESOS BEEN MOVED BY SARAH
MORE LOCK --
TO SEE IT [inaudible]
IT SHOULD [inaudible]
THAT.
ATTY OKAY SO THE MOTIONS DO
PASSED THE FIRST REFERRED SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE --
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
PAN PART PAN AYE MORRELL.
WELL NO MORE LEYVA.
WERE LOCKED ALRIGHT MORE LIKE I
PORTANTINO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PHONE
CALL.
ALRIGHT ASSEMBLY MEMBER IN THIS
AREA AND I THINK YOUR NEXT ONE
UP THAT.
COME SO --
THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE AB
[inaudible]
FIFTEEN NINETY SEVEN IF YOU
[inaudible]
RIGHT [inaudible]
WELCOME.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR NUMBERS
--
PRESENTING AB FIFTEEN NINETY
SEVEN AND MISTER CHAIRMAN I
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH ME ON
THIS BILL --
WE HAD IT SET ASIDE AND MADE
INTO TO YOUR BILL AND AND AND I
THINK WE'VE COME I'M GREAT AND
AS WITH.
SOME OF THE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD SO --
WHEN APPROPRIATE AND POP SUPPLY
WILL BE TAKING THE --
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS WITH THE
COFFEE OUT.
OF OUR DISCUSSIONS TO INCLUDE
LANGUAGE IN THE AMENDMENTS
THAT-WOULD EXPAND THE REASON WHY
THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD ISSUE
SANCTIONS AGAINST TURKEY THAT WE
SPOKE ABOUT.
AS AMENDED AB FIFTEEN NINETEEN
SEP. NINETEEN NINETY SEVEN WOULD
REQUIRE THE BOARDS OF SCALPER
ACTUALLY ACTUALLY JUST TO
CLARIFY SO YOU'RE TAKING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS WE CAN HAVE
SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION RIGHT
OUT.
BUT BUT YOU'RE TAKING COMMITTEE
MINUTES AS THE AS IS AND DIED
BELIEVE JUDICIARY RIGHT ACCEPTS
AND IS THERE ANY CHIU TYPE LEFT
THAT LEAGUE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
IF IT'S JUDICIARY APPROPRIATIONS
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE
MORE ATTRACTIVE AREA HERE.
HASN'T JUDICIARY YES OKAY OKAY
SO LONG AS IT DOESN'T CONFLICT
WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT THE SO LONG
AS IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH.
THE TIMING OF OF HOW IT GETS OUT
AND WHETHER IT GETS HELD UP AS
TO THE CONTENT YET THEY CAN
TAKEN NECESSARY FOR HIS MANAGER
JUDICIARY OKAY THANK YOU --
TO AS AMENDED THIS BILL WOULD
REQUIRE THE BOARDS OF CALPERS
AND CAL STIRS TO DIVEST PUBLIC
EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUNDS FROM
ANY INVESTMENT VEHICLE.
ISSUED BY OWNED CONTROLLED OR
MANAGED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF
TURKEY.
THE LIQUIDATION OF INVESTMENTS
IN TURKEY IS CONTINGENT UPON THE
PASSAGE OF A FEDERAL LAW ISSUING
SANCTIONS AGAINST TURKEY.
THIS CONTINGENCY BECAUSE
INSURERS CALIFORNIA'S POLICY TO
DIVEST FROM TURKEY.
A REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH PAST
INVESTMENTS FROM FOREIGN NATIONS
INCLUDING SUDAN AND IRAN.
AND IN THAT PURRS AND STIRS WILL
NOT DIVEST UNTIL THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN ACTION
FIRST.
REPUBLIC OF TURKEY'S
UNWILLINGNESS TO RECOGNIZE THE
GENOCIDE AND THEIR UNRELENTING
CAMPAIGN. TO DENY THE GENOCIDE
CONTINUES TO DISCRIMINATE
AGAINST ARMENIANS AND OTHER
ETHNIC MINORITIES.
WHO HAVE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS
OF?
CALIFORNIA'S INVESTMENT AND
TURKISH GOVERNMENT BONDS
INDIRECTLY SUBSIDIZES THIS
BEHAVIOR OF DENIAL OF THE
GENOCIDE.
THIS BILL CONTINUES CALIFORNIA'S
COMMITMENT TO ACT APPROPRIATELY
AGAINST COUNTRIES THAT HAVE A
RECORD OF HUMAN RIGHTS
VIOLATIONS.
AND UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY.
WITH ME I HAVE FOR A HIKE BACK
TO SYRIA.
A WITH THE ARMENIAN --
SUBCOMMITTEE OF AMERICA NATIONAL
COMMITTEE OF AMERICA AS WELL AS
ME AROUND TOO MUCH ON A WITH THE
ARMENIAN ASSEMBLY OF AMERICA.
THANK YOU WELCOME.
SUPPORT THANK YOU ARE HONORABLE
CHAIRMAN PAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE --
MY NAME'S HIKE BUGS SIR IN A
BEEN A LONG TIME COMMUNITY
ACTIVIST --
MOST NOTABLY WITH ARMENIAN
NATIONAL COMMITTEE OF AMERICA
FIRST AND FOREMOST I'D LIKE TO
THANK ASSEMBLYMAN THIS ART AND
FOR HAVING.
CHAMPION AND STIRRED OF US A
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FLORA
COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST THREE
YEARS -- MEN
STANDING A STRONG --
TO THE TO TO TRY TO BRING IT
FORWARD --
CALIFORNIA IS THE HOME TO THE
LARGEST FROM ARMENIAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITY THE LARGEST
CONCENTRATION ACTUALLY AND THE
EXISTING IN THE DIASPORA AND
NEARLY ALL OF US HAVE --
HAVE RELATIVES WHO WERE --
TOWARDS SURVIVORS AS WELL AS
VICTIMS OF THE GENOCIDE.
A SCHOLARS FROM FREQUENTLY HIGH
CONSIDERED DENIAL OF THE
GENOCIDE AS THE FINAL STAGE SO
IN A WAY IT'S BEING PERPETUATED.
AND AS LONG AS TURKEY ON DENIES
THE GENOCIDE AND CALIFORNIA AN
VINCE IN THE GOVERNMENT OF
TURKEY WHERE AND DUCKED UNDER A
CLAY SUBSIDIZING THE SAID THAT
THAT WAS.
I KEY CONCERN THE BROAD ABOUT
THIS ISSUE WHY WITHOUT WE WANTED
THIS BISHOP TO BE BROUGHT FORTH
--
FROM AND THERE ARE MANY ARMENIAN
AMERICANS WHO ARE PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES SO AND
WHETHER UNWITTINGLY
CONTRIBUTING.
TO A GOVERNMENT THAT'S DENYING
THE GENOCIDE THAT THEIR OF
FOREFATHERS EXPERIENCED.
SO WEEKS BETTER WE APPRECIATE
ALL OF THE ACTIONS TAKEN --
THEN AND YEARS PREVIOUSLY WITH
RESPECT TO THE RECOGNITION THAT
GENOCIDE BY THE LEGISLATURE BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION --
AND BUT WE HOPE THAT --
WILL BE ABLE TO ALSO BRING OUR
INVESTMENT POLICIES IN LINE AND
I THINK -- A
ASSEMBLYMAN IS ARE IN IS VERY
SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES OWES
FRAMED IN SUCH A WAY.
THAT -- NO
ACTIVE DIVESTMENT WOULD BE
REQUIRED AND THE ABSENCE OF
FEDERAL SANCTIONS AND SO AND WE
WOULD AND NO WAY WANNA BRING ANY
--
FOR AND NEGATIVE FINANCIAL
IMPACT UPON --
OUR EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES AND
WE APPRECIATE AND WE APPRECIATE
THAT CALPERS AND CULTURES MAYBE
OPENED -- TO
TO LOOKING INTO THIS ISSUE AND
WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO TO
LOOK AT THE CURRENT INVESTMENTS
AND TRY TO FIND A WAY TO BRING
--
ARE IN DIRECT CONTRIBUTIONS
TOWARDS GENOCIDE DENIAL TO A
CLOSE THANK THANK YOU AGAIN AND
THANK YOU. TO SOME WOMEN AS ARE
AND I WILL CHAIRMAN DUCKED THEM
MOISTURE MORALE DISTINGUISHED
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE --
THE ARMY ASSEMBLY AMERICA SINCE
THE FOLLOWING TESTIMONY IN
EUROPE JUSTICE SENATE STANDING
COMMITTEE IN.
A PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT RETIREMENT
PHONE FAVOR AB FIFTY NINE SEVEN
OTHER PICKS UP TO ME. TO THINK A
SALINAS AREA FOR SPEARHEADING
THIS INITIATIVE.
ON THE SILLY SIDE.
OF IN RE UP THEM IS GOING TO THE
JUST ADD A FEW THINGS TO WHAT
HIKE -- SO
OPENLY STATED IN RECENT YEARS
TURKEYS CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS
RECORD HAS BEEN ABYSMAL.
SINCE TWO THOUSAND FIVE UNDER
ARTICLE THREE TO ONE OF THE P.
[inaudible]
SURE ACT.
SHIRTLESS ACADEMICS HUMAN RIGHTS
AND CIVIL SOCIETY ADVOCATES AND
REPRESENTATIVES OF ITS LEGAL AND
JUDICIAL COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN
ARRESTED IN PRISON. FOR
INSULTING PUBLIC OFFICIALS OR
CARRYING OUT CRIMES AGAINST
STATE -- IN
ADDITION ACCORDING TO THE
COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS
TURKEY WAS THE WORST TRAILER OF
JOURNALISTS IN.
TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN THE
OREGON REGIME REGULARLY REFERS
TO IMPRISON JOURNALISTS SEVENTY
THREE IN TOTAL AT THIS JUNCTURE.
AS TERRORIST CHILD MOLESTERS AND
MURDERS --
UP THROUGHOUT THE PAST SIX
DECADES COMPANY HAS BEEN AN
EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW STATES WITH
RESPECT TO THE PASSAGE OF
RESOLUTIONS PROCLAMATIONS IN
REAFFIRMATION THE I MEAN
GENOCIDE.
AS WELL AS WITH LEGISLATION
STIPULATING TEACHING OF THE
GENOCIDE STATEWIDE PUBLIC
SCHOOLS.
IN STARK CONTRAST TO THE BONE
STATES COULD POSITION GENOCIDE
RECOGNITION EDUCATION BUT TOOK A
STATE MANDATES THE TEACHING OF
GENOCIDE DENIAL IN ITS SCHOOLS.
AND CONTINUES A DECADES OLD
POLICY OF DISCRIMINATION TOWARDS
ARMENIANS ANOTHER MINORITY
POPULATIONS.
IN SPITE OF THE STAFF
CALIFORNIA'S PUNCH SYSTEMS
COMPANY CASTERS HAVE INVEST
PROBABLY PRINT MILLION THREE
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO DATE
AND TURKISH GOVERNMENT SHOULD
OWN CONTROL TO MANAGE INVESTMENT
VEHICLES.
THUS INDIRECTLY AIDING AND
ABETTING AKHRAS STATE SPONSORED
POLICY TO DENY THE ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE AND OPPRESSES MINORITY
POPULATIONS.
WE HAVE THE ARMY ASSEMBLY
AMERICA WRITERS THE ON ALL
MEMBERS OF COMPANIES THE SENATE
STANDING COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT TIME DEVOTED FAVOR
BABY.
FIFTY NINE SEVEN A VOTE IN FAVOR
THIS BILL WOULD UNDERSCORE
CALIFORNIA'S LONGSTANDING
COMMITMENT TOWARDS A PRODUCTION
OF UNIVERSAL HUMAN CIVIL RIGHTS
AND SEND A CLEAR SIGNAL. TO
REGINA REPRESSIVE REGIMES THE
WORLD OVER.
DO RIGHT BY THEIR RESPECTIVE
CITIZENS THANK YOU FOR HOLDING
THIS HEARING FOR YOUR TOUCH.
OKAY THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES
SUPPORT.
OKAY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION --
IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING IN PLACE
YEAH.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE O
ISOLATE MARTINEZ WEIGHT WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE TEACHERS
RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
OUR BOARD HAD TAKEN UP WHOSE
POSITION ON THE BILL AS IT IS N
PRINT SO WAS WE HAVE NOT HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT
LIMITS YET WE BEHALF. TO DO THAT
GENERALLY OUR BOARD AS OPPOSED
TO DIVESTMENT BILLS AS THEY
RESTRICT INVESTMENT AUTHORITY OF
THE BOARD AND LIMIT THE DIVIDE
DIVERSIFICATION.
OF OUR PORTFOLIO WHICH SIDE
EFFECTS HAVE BEEN OUR ABILITY TO
FUND THE BENEFITS FOR OUR
MEMBERS IN LINE WITH THE BOARD'S
FIDUCIARY DUTY.
I DO WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT
IN REVIEWING THE AMENDMENTS WILL
DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT THE
FACT THAT WE INVEST ACROSS THE
MARKET SO ANYTIME WE WOULD HAVE
TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE --
TO HOW WE REBALANCE IN LINE WITH
THE INDICES WHEN THEY DO RE WAIT
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
WOULD BE AN ACTIVE DECISION THAT
IS NOT OUR CURRENT STRATEGY AND
THAT'S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING
WITH A FUNDING PLAN THAT THE
LEGISLATURE PUT IN PLACE IN TWO
THOUSAND FOURTEEN TO PUT US.
ON THE PATH TOWARD FULL FUNDING.
THANK YOU I JUST TO MAKE NOTES
AS TO THE AGAIN I'D REALIZE IT
HAS GO BACK AND CHECK THAT THE
AMENDMENT THAT WAS BASICALLY.
SAYING THAT --
WE WILL THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE
ANY DEFENSEMAN UNLESS THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT --
BASICALLY SANCTIONS --
THE TURKEY FOR NOT RECOGNIZING
THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE.
SO JUST LIKE THAT DOBBS EVIL
SHUTTLING WHICH WITH THE GOOD
AFTERNOON JENNIFER BAKER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION AND AND CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE THAT --
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS
WE UNFORTUNATELY I ARE POSTED
THE BILL IMPRINT AND WE NEED TO
EVALUATE ANY AMENDMENTS ON OUR
POSITION HAS BEEN UNLESS THE
FUND IS GOING TO BE INDEMNIFIED
WE WOULD OPPOSE.
OUGHT NOT --
FOR THE VERY IMPORTANT POLICY
INFILL SITE --
FACTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT
ARE EXPRESSED IN THE BILL WE
CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT
WEREN'T WE DON'T WANT TO GET IT
--
TOO INTO THE MORAL DISCUSSION ON
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S A
MERITORIOUS DISCUSSION BUT WE
DON'T BELIEVE THAT TEACHERS ON
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES SHOULD HAVE TO
PAY THE COST.
SO WE DO BELIEVE IF YOU WANT TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DIVESTMENT
MEASURE THAN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA OUGHT NOT TO MEMBERS
OF THE FUNDS WHO ARE MAKING THE
DECISION SHOULD HAVE TO BEAR THE
FISCAL COST.
WHAT WAS A GAME CHANGER FOR US
WAS A. B. FOURTEEN SIXTY NINE
THAT WAS PASSED IN TWO THOUSAND
FOURTEEN THAT INCREASE ASK
PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS
FORECASTERS MEMBERS THE STATE
AND SCHOOLEMPLOYERS AS WELL I
KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN
GETTING A NUMBER OF CALLS?
AND EMAILS FROM SCHOOL EMPLOYERS
AND OTHERS CONCERNED ABOUT
PENSION COSTS IF YOU IF YOU
CHOOSE TO DIVEST IF YOU CHOOSE
TO TAKE ACTION THAT DOES HAVE A
FISCAL IMPACT ON THE FUN.
NEW TEACHERS THAT YOU'VE BEEN
TRYING TO RECRUIT RETAIN THAT OF
STARTED AFTER TWO THOUSAND
THIRTEEN ARE BEING IMPACTED BY
PEP PARA STARTING ON JULY FIRST.
NEXT WEEK THEY'RE GONNA GET A 1%
INCREASE IN THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS
AND NOT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF
PEPPER AND IT'S ALSO IMPACTED BY
EVENING FOURTEEN SIXTY NINE SO
NOT REALLY CHANGE THE WAY THAT
WE LOOK AT DIVESTMENT MEASURE
SO.
THIS WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON NEW
TEACHER SPECIFICALLY THIS COULD
HAVE AN IMPACT ON SCHOOL
EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS AND SO
SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO INDEMNIFY
THE FUN WE WOULD NOT HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH YOUR DISCUSSIONS WE
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT
EDUCATORS FROM PUBLIC EMPLOYEES
TO PAY THE COST.
THE WITNESS IS NOW OPPOSITION
GOOD AFTERNOON DOROTHY JOHNSON
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES IN OPPOSITION FOR
MANY OTHER REASONS PREVIOUSLY
STATEDTHAT'S REALLY IS.
ABOUT THE FISCAL HARM WE HAVE
ADOPTED STANDARD POLICY
REGARDLESS OF WHAT TYPE OF
DIVESTMENT IS ON ON THE TABLE
AND REALLY JUST WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT.
THE FUNDS STATUS IS PROTECTED
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT THAT'S
COME BACK TO THE EMPLOYERS AND
THEN WOULD LIKE TO ALSO LINE MY
COLLEAGUE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
TING HUTCHINGS ITALY CALIFORNIA
CITIES ALSO OPPOSED TO LINE MY
COMMENTS WITH A LOCK IS FROM CT
A I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE HERE IS THAT WHEN YOU --
SELA SELLING ASSET REGARDLESS OF
WHAT THAT ACID IS INVESTED AND
YOU'RE SELLING IT TO AN INCIDENT
AND MAYBE A PERHAPS AND THAT AN
INVESTOR WHO IS DOES NOT TRY TO
ENGAGE --
WITHOUT DIVESTED ACROSS THE THE
ONLY COMMON DENOMINATOR IS THAT
IN YOUR DIVESTING FROM NOTHING
EFFECTUATE TO CHANGE ITS ON THE
LOSSES AT A PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ARE
TAKING SO.
OPPOSE THE BILL.
FUTURE MEMBERS PAN MEDICARE AND
READING ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING
THE PEACE OFFICERS RESEARCH
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA IT WOULD
SEEM AMENDMENTS WILL TAKE THEM
BACK TO THE BOARD.
BUT AT AT PRESENT WE ARE OPPOSED
TO THE BILL WE PREFER CALPERS
CONSTRUCTIVE ENGAGEMENT POLICY
WE THINK THAT THE IS A BETTER
WAY TO HANDLE THE SITUATION
THANK YOU.
AND SCOTT BLACKLEDGE
REPRESENTING CALPERS --
WE IT UP A TICKET AND NOW OPPOSE
POSITION ASED ON THE PRIOR
MINUTE VERSION OF THE BILL --
THIS HADN'T GONE TO THE BOARD
BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IN THIS AREA AND
CAME BEFORE THE BOARD AND SPOKE
TO US.
AND AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING
TOWARDS FINDING OPPORTUNITIES
FOR ENGAGEMENT A IN RELATION TO
THE ISSUE.
AND SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR
TEN MINUTES [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
I THOUGHT QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. FOR MORE
LIKE.
THANK YOU MUCH RICHER --
ONE I THINK CENTER PORTANTINO HE
HOSTED A SPECIAL HEARING ON THIS
PARTICULAR SUBJECT DUH. THREE
MONTHS AGO NOW --
AND SO THE BIG THE BIG ISSUE WAS
WHAT WAS REALLY NICE WE HAD
THAT.
CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER FROM
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
PENSION SYSTEM SO WE WERE ABLE.
TO ASK SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS BUT IT TURNED OUT
THAT.
IN THEIR PASSIVE INVESTMENTS ARE
INDEX FUNDS THEY DID NOT.
THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN
INDEX FUND THAT HELD.
TURKISH BONDS.
SO THAT.
WORKED OUT FOR THEM.
BUT YOU WERE SAYING --
ACCORDING --
TO MISTER IMAGINED THAT.
CALPERS AND CAL SEARCH HOLDS
THREE HUNDRED MILLION AND TOOK
RESPONSE WITH THAT BEING THE
INDEX FUNDS --
THINK A CONFLICT OF COMBINATION.
THREE HUNDRED MILLION LAUNCHERS
EX EXACTLY IN WHICH FUNDS.
SO WITH SO.
SO COULD BE PARTIALLY INDEX
FUNDS WHICH KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE
MUCH CONTROL OVER THOSE SPENT
THIS HAS BEEN PRIMARILY.
I DON'T GET WE GOT CALPERS IN
THE ROOM INCLUDING.
THIS IS THE WORLD FAMOUS CBO
MARCY FROST WE COULD.
AND THINK THAT.
SCOTT NECKLACE REPRESENTING
CALPERS --
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED
AND EIGHTY FIVE MILLION --
I CAN'T IDENTIFY POOR.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS IN INDEX
FUNDS BUT I CAN CERTAINLY PROVED
FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU AND
PROVIDE AN ANSWER?
OF MUCH BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FEW
HAVE STATEMENTS OF BELIEF.
YEAH YOU PREPARE AND AND SO DO
YOU HAVE A STATEMENT OF ON ON
TURKEY.
THESE ARE THE INVESTMENT
BELIEVES OR A SERIES OF
PRINCIPLES --
IN REGARDS TO A OVERALL ISSUES
SUCH AS THE BEST MAN --
SUCH AS YEAH.
CONTRACTING WITH THE EXTERNAL
INVESTMENT MANAGERS BUT NOT THE
ISSUE SPECIFIC.
ALONG THESE LINES.
SELECT IS THAT HOW YOU HIRE AN
ACTIVE MANAGER WHO'S INVESTING
IN.
INTERNATIONAL BONDS ALL OVER THE
GLOBE HAS WHATEVER.
EVERY CHOICE.
INFINITE MENU IF YOU'RE NOT
SAYING TO THEM.
NEW KNOW TURKISH BONDS MIGHT BE
[inaudible]
A LITTLE.
AWKWARD.
BUT BUT BUT DO IT IF IT PROVIDES
THE ALPHA THAT WE'RE LOOKING --
FOR I GUESS WE'RE TALKING
HYPOTHETICALS RIGHT NOW IF THIS
LEGISLATION WERE TO PASS THEIR
WOULD BE A DIRECTIVE.
PROVIDED TO OUR ACTIVE MANAGERS
IN RELATION TO THOSE.
BUT THEN WHAT DO YOU DO WITH
YOUR PASSIVE MANAGERS THEN --
WELL WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH A
SEPARATE BENCHMARK RELATED TO
THAT AND THEN HAVE ARE PASSIVE
MANAGERS --
NOT INVEST INTRODUCED BONDS AND
WE HAVE TO USE THIS ALTERNATIVE
BENCHMARKS AND ORDERED A MEASURE
PERFORMANCE AND SO.
THERE'S A COST THAT COMES WITH
THAT WITH NOT USING A NORMAL
BENCHMARK SUCH AS THE EMBASSY I
AND WHAT HAVE YOU RIGHT WHERE
YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR OWN
BENCHMARK AND YOU HAVE TO
ACTUALLY.
ASK YOUR YOUR OUTSIDE INVESTORS
TO PUT TOGETHER.
A PASSIVE PORTFOLIO.
SENSE TURKEY THAT'S THAT'S GOING
TO BE JUST UNIQUE TO YOU UNLESS.
THERE'S A DEMAND FOR THAT KIND
OF PRODUCT AROUND THE COUNTRY
RATE THAT IS CORRECT
[inaudible]
OKAY --
MISTER NAZARIAN --
COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THAT IT
IT SAYS WAIT AND TELL THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IMPOSES
SANCTIONS ON THE REPUBLIC OF
TURKEY. FOR THEIR FAILURE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN A
SERVICE OR SOMETHING GOING ON IN
CONGRESS RIGHT NOW.
WELL ACTUALLY THAT'S THAT'S THE
AMENDMENT THAT OUR COMMITTEE
REQUESTED PERHAPS MORE
APPROPRIATELY JUST SAY IS THAT
--
AS YOU SEE AN ANALYSIS ALSO IS
THAT -- I
FELT THAT IT TOLD THE FELLAS A
FEDERAL UNTIL THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT --
SPECIFICALLY TOOK ACTION RELATED
TO THEIR THERE DOESN'T RAISE
SOME --
LEGAL CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES
REGARDING OUR ROLE AND THE STATE
IN A BASICALLY MAKING FOR POLICY
AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD
MAKE THIS UP THE SENT A VOTE
ABOUT THE LEGAL CHALLENGE.
A AND AND ALL SO --
REQUIRES SAY THAT IF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT BASICALLY IS TAKING
THAT ACTION THAN THAT THEN IT'S
FIND THE THEN THE STATE WOULD
IMMEDIATELY.
HAVE THE THAT HAVING THIS AND
THAT AND CODE WOULD ALLOW TO
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW WOULD HAVE TO
WAIT.
FOR ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION YOU
KNOW FOR THE STATE TO THEN GO
THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS
ALTHOUGH PURRS COULD IF THEY
WISH.
TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS A AS A
BOARD BUT THAT THAT IT WAS THAT
WE TRUST SIGNAL THE LEGISLATURE
THAT -- THAT
IF THE IF THE US THAT FIRST OF
ALL OUR DISAPPROVAL THE FACT
THAT -- THE
THAT --
TURKEY'S NOT RECOGNIZING THEIR
MEDIAN GENOCIDE AND OUT OF OUR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT --
MADE A DECISION --
TO SANCTIONS RESULT OF THAT THAT
CALIFORNIA WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY.
BEHIND THAT YELL WITH THEM AND
THAT [inaudible]
SO.
ARE ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY EFFORT
IN THIS REGARD DESERVE.
YOUR EXPECTING LIKE A BUT A
DIRECT ORDER FROM THE PRESIDENT
OR A BILL THROUGH CONGRESS WHAT
WHAT ARE YOU WHAT WHAT IS WHAT
IS THIS TRIGGERED.
THAT THERE ISN'T SOMETHING RIGHT
NOW IN THE WORLD THAT'S THAT
WE'RE TRYING TO PARALLEL THIS IS
--
A THIS BILL IS AN EFFORT TO
BRING AN ISSUE TO LIGHT.
AND TO ALSO PUT SOMETHING AND
CODE THAT WERE --
ALLOW FOR ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
WHEN APPROPRIATE --
FIRST OF ALL.
THE PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE
BASED ON THE FIDUCIARY
RESPONSIBILITY OF CALPERS TO ITS
CLIENTS.
SO -- EVEN
THOUGH THIS BILL.
REQUIRES.
A IT'S STILL HAS THE PROVISIONS
OF THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY
THAT OFFER THE PROTECTIONS
NECESSARY.
AND GIVES CALPERS THE ABILITY.
TO THEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG BUT PREVENT DOING ANYTHING
THAT WOULD NOT BE IN THE BEST
INTEREST OF ITS CLIENTS SO
THAT'S ONE BUT TWO IT PUTS
[inaudible]
ASTRINGENT --
FEDERAL REQUIREMENT THAT.
UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF A
FEDERAL ACTION.
AND IN THIS CASE A SANCTION THAT
WE'RE TRYING T DISCUSS THE
LANGUAGE OF THAT WOULD THAT THAT
WOULD HAVE TO FIRST BE IN PLACE
BEFORE THE STATE.
BEFORE CALPERS DOES ANYTHING.
IT'S IT'S A PRETTY EXHAUSTIVE.
PROCESS THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE
EVER WHO.
THERE MIGHT NOT BE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
BUT IT FORCES A CERTAIN ISSUE --
COULD BE CONSIDERED.
A AND WHEN THE FIFTH LARGEST
ECONOMY IN THE WORLD IS TAKING
THIS STEP FORWARD.
IT'S GONNA FOR CERTAIN
CONVERSATIONS IN THE MARKET AS
WELL.
BUT THEN JUST.
PARA MIKE TOOTH.
TRAINS OF THOUGHT.
IF THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
ISSUED SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD
NET CANNOT [inaudible]
ENCOURAGE.
THESE INDEX FUND MANAGERS.
AND EVEN THE INDEX.
PROVIDERS THAT SAY WE BETTER.
THE MUZZLE NOT TURKEY OUT OF THE
OUT OF THE WHOLE EQUATION
ALTOGETHER SO AND IN MY CLOSING
I WAS GONNA THINK CALPERS
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD.
SOME EXTREMELY MEANINGFUL
CONVERSATION OVER THE COURSE OF
THE LAST YEAR.
AND THEY'VE BEEN --
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON PUTTING
TOGETHER A GEOPOLITICAL RISK
FACTOR IN THEIR DECISION MAKING
PROCESS --
SO I I I THINK I THINK.
PURSUANT TO TO DISPEL AND SOME
OTHER.
ISSUE AREAS SIMILAR TO THIS
DIVESTMENT THERE'S BEEN A
GROWING INTEREST --
OF OF OF FROM CALPERS AND TO TRY
TO SEE HOW THEY CAN ALSO BE
ENGAGING AND THIS TOPIC AREA --
I DON'T IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR
QUESTION THAT'S GOING.
TO THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU
MATURE [inaudible]
BECAUSE THIS --
ETCETERA CENTER MORRELL.
YES.
THANK YOU FROM FOR ALL THE GOOD.
WORKE DEATH --
YOU KNOW I'M.
I COULD SORT OF GO BOTH WAYS ON
THESE BILLS AND SO.
BOMB I I WANT TO SIDE WITH YOU
TODAY BUT WITH THE CABBIE OUT
THERE -- I
DO WANT TO SEE THOSE AMENDMENTS
AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHER
--
INFORMATION THAT I'M GONNA NEED
--
BEFORE I GIVE MY FINAL YES MONEY
GOES TO THE FLOOR.
BOMB IS BECAUSE YOU YOU KNOW I I
KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
ARMENIAN GENOCIDE SO HURTFUL IT
GOES BACK A LONG WAY.
BOMBS SO I REALLY --
NO WAR AND UNDERSTAND WHERE
YOU'RE COMING FROM BUT I ALSO
HAVE A DUTY TO PROTECT OVER
PERVERSIONS.
AND AND THE TEACHERS AND DIAZ SO
--
YEAH I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE THE
BILL AT EIGHT UNLESS SOMEBODY
ELSE DOES I I WILL BE ASSIGNED
IT BUT AGAIN WHAT THE CAVIAR.
WHEN HE GETS TO THE FLOOR I'M
GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME?
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
BUS SO I THAT I KNOW ARE MOVING
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OKAY
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
OKAY CENTER AT FACT SENATOR
PORTANTINO.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I AND I I
OUT I WILL MOVE THE BILL --
TO MAKE SURE WE MOVE IT FORWARD
--
I'D FIGHT COMPLEMENT THE AUTHOR
--
FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD
AS HE HAS SEE ARTICULATED THIS
IS A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO
BE HAD --
AND THEIR SEVERAL ASPECTS OF IT
AND I THINK --
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBERS PASSION FOR
THE CONVERSATION IS IS A IS A
POSITIVE STEP FOR CALIFORNIA TO
HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
AND I THINK THERE'S TWO PIECES
TO IT THERE'S THE THERE'S THE
INVESTMENT.
PEACE THERE'S THE FINANCIAL
PIECE AND THEN THERE'S THE MORAL
RIGHTEOUS JUSTIFIABLE --
CONVERSATION SHOULD CALIFORNIA
IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM
[inaudible]
BE PROFITING.
FROM INVESTMENT IN A COUNTRY
THAT -- A
PERPETRATED THE GENOCIDE AND BE.
NICE TO GENOCIDE.
AND A AS WE CAN DAM --
TAX ON THE FREE PRESS.
IN OUR COUNTRY --
WERE WE CONDEMN ACTIONS.
THAT STIFLE DEMOCRACY --
SHOULD WE BE PROFITING IN A
COUNTRY THAT --
DOES MORE THAN STIFLE THE
PREPRESS --
IS OPPRESSIVE VIOLENT.
AND COMMITS ATROCITIES AGAINST
THE FREE PRESS SO YOU KNOW I I
THINK WE HAVE.
TO IN A CASE LIKE THIS LOOK AT
THAT MORAL --
RESPONSIBILITY FOR CALIFORNIA --
TO AND I WANNA GO BACK TO
SOMETHING MR MORE LOCKED
MENTIONED.
YOU KNOW.
BUT THE UC RESPONDED TO THAT
PASSION OF THE STUDENTS AND
VOLUNTARILY WENT THROUGH THEIR
PORTFOLIO. TO STOP THEIR ACTIVE
INVESTMENTS AND INVITED THE
STUDENTS TO COME TO THE BOARD
MEETING IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY
CAN.
TO DO THE PAST TO GET RID OF THE
PASSIVE INVESTMENTS AND NEITHER
WERE SPAR RESPONDING THAT MORAL
OUTRAGE IN DOING THE RIGHT THING
--
CERTAINLY THERE'S NOTHING TO
STOP HER SISTERS.
FROM DOING THAT ON THEIR OWN --
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO
THAT.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO TO
TAKE THAT STEP BACK AND SAY.
LET'S FIND ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE
THESE PENSION PLANS FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE WERE NOT PROFITING
FROM A COUNTRY THAT A AGAIN.
PERPETRATED GENOCIDE AND BE
DENIES THE GENOCIDE AND ONE THAT
--
PERPETRATED VIOLENCE AGAINST
ANYBODY WHO SPEAKS OUT --
AND SO -- WE
HAVE IN THE PAST HAD DIVESTITURE
BILLS UM THAT HAVE PASSED --
WITH -- LOTS
OF TEETH --
IN PARTICULAR THE IRANIAN
DIVESTITURE FROM A DECADE AGO --
AND YOU KNOW I THINK THIS BILL
IS CONTENT.
AND I THINK OF THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR
BEING PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AND
OBVIOUSLY I'M A SUPPORTER TODAY
--
AS IT MOVES FORWARD BUT I THINK
WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE MORAL
IMPERATIVE FOR CALIFORNIA TO
SUPPORT AND DO THE RIGHT THING
[inaudible]
THANK YOU [inaudible]
A SIMPLE.
I THINK MISTER CHAIR I I JUST
WANNA THINK ASSEMBLYMEMBERS AREA
AND AND HIS SUPPORTERS FOR
WORKING SO HARD.
AND GETTING US TO A PLACE WHERE
WE CAN GET THIS BILL OUT OF
COMMITTEE.
I'VE TALKED TO YOU YOU YOU ALL
KNOW HOW I FEEL THAT --
I GREW TO AND I GREW WITH THE
SPIRIT OF THIS BILL 100% EDGES
TO WORRY ABOUT THE M. WHEN WE
DIE VESTED WE DON'T REPLACE IT
WITH SOMETHING THAT WE ARE THAN
LETTING DOWN THE FOLKS THAT WE
ARE.
SUPPOSED TO BE WITH ME PROMISES
TO SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD
WORK ON THIS AND THANK YOU FOR
GETTING IT'S TO A POINT WHERE WE
CAN SUPPORT IT TODAY.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU AND I WOULD SUFFERS OF
IOWA THANK YOU SOMETIMES AND I
KNOW THIS IS GONNA SUCH A TWO
YEAR CONVERSATION I APPRECIATE
YOU TAKING THE ALCHEMY
AMENDMENTS --
IN JUDICIARY AS WE HAVE PROPOSED
AND WE CAN HAVE FURTHER
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW.
RECOGNIZING OTHER ACTIONS
RELATED GENOCIDE ABOUT TAKING
THE MINUTES AS DOES --
AND AND JUDICIARY AS WE PROPOSED
AND I AND YOU KNOW I THINK THAT
--
THIS IS.
THIS ISSUE --
IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHAT OUR
ROLE IS IN TERMS OF INSURING
THAT -- WE
HELP KEEP OUR PROMISES TO OUR
EMPLOYEES OUR TEACHERS OUR STATE
EMPLOYEES ARE LOCAL EMPLOYEES
WHO DEPEND ON STIRS AND PURRS.
YEAH I I WANTED KNOWLEDGE AND
AND APPRECIATE THE JOB THE
OPPOSITION'S --
TESTIMONY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A
REMINDER TO US THAT.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
DEPENDING ON ON THESE THINGS AND
WE WE HAVE TO WE HAVE --
TO IT JUST YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE
DEEP DOWN THE BALL THERE BUT
SAME TIME WE ALSO NEED TO BE
SURE WE INVEST.
WITH OUR AND OUR VALUES AS WELL
REGARD DOES IT IS BETTER TO YOUR
CONVERSATION BECAUSE PART THAT
CONVERSATION IS IS THAT WERE
ACTUALLY TAKING SOME.
ACTION IS HAPPENING EVEN.
WITHOUT EVEN BEFORE WE'RE GONNA
HOPEFULLY PASS THIS BILL OUT OF
COMMITTEE TODAY AND I WANNA
THANK CALPERS I KNOW MAYES
PEOPLE FOR CALPERS IS HERE.
YEAH YOU KNOW TERMS OF HAVING
THAT CONVERSATION I TALK ABOUT
WHERE SOME THE THINGS CALPERS
CONDUCIVE THINKS CALPERS CAN DO
YOU KNOW WE CAN SUGGEST THINGS
BUT THINGS THAT COVER AND SO I
KNOW THAT THE CEO.
AND THE BOARD AND YOU HAD A
CHANCE TO MEET WITH THEM THEY'RE
TAKING ACTIONS THAT RIGHT
DIFFERENT ACTIONS. TO TO TO SEND
THE SIGNAL TO TO THE GOVERNMENT
TURKEY THAT THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA --
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT
--
THAT -- DATE
KNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE.
WE SHOULD NOT BE --
HIDING OUR THE PASTOR PRETENDING
LIKE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN --
THAT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE THE THE THE THE
ERRORS OF THE PAST AND COMMIT TO
NOT MAKING THEM IN THE FUTURE.
AND NOT PERPETUATING AND AND THE
APPRECIATE ALSO THAT NOW I THINK
TO SOME CHALLENGES THAT RIGHT
NOW WITH THE TRICKY IN HUMAN
RIGHTS AND SO --
AND AND AND CERTAINLY THAT YOU
KNOW AND THEN SOME OF THOSE --
AGAIN THAT STATES GOING BACK TO
WHAT HAPPENED THERE MEAN
GENOCIDE AS WELL SO WE IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT --
THAT --
SOCIETIES INCLUDING OUR OWN EVEN
ACKNOWLEDGED MISTAKES MADE IN
THE PAST AND AND COMMIT TO NOT
MAKING THEM IN THE FUTURE BUT
YOU CANNOT.
DO THAT WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING
WHAT YOU DID BEFORE AND DOES SO
--
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT WE TO SEND THE SIGNAL
I APPRECIATE HER CELL WORKING TO
HELP RATE TO THAT FOR EVEN
ELLIS.
BURRIS PROMPTED BY THOSE
DISCUSSIONS AND THAT --
AND THAT --
WELL -- I
THINK -- FOR
THAT -- THIS
BILL -- OUT
WHAT WILL BILL ALSO HELPED SEND
THAT SIGNAL AS WELL AND AT
BECAUSE THAT --
AS WELL SO --
BUT THAT --
IS CERTAINLY OF APPRECIATE --
YOU BRING THIS BILL BUT ALSO I
TAKING THE AMENDS --
SO THAT WERE IN LINE WITH A IN
TERMS OF ANY SPECIFIC THAT S.
FASHION WITH OF THE POLICY SET
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
BOTTOM.
BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'RE
SAYING THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY.
THAT THIS SET SENDING A SIGNAL
BUT I THINK AGAIN.
KEEP IN MIND THAT UP FIRST OF
ALL WE DO HAVE --
TO FOR PENSIONS KEEP IN MIND OUR
INITIAL PROMISES TO THE PEOPLE
ARE DEPENDING ON THIS PENSIONS.
SO WITH THAT --
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
[inaudible]
AT JUST WANTED FIRST OF ALL
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR FOR
WORKING WITH ME ON THIS.
I KNOW IT'S A VERY.
CHALLENGING BALANCE TO MAINTAIN
THE STEWARDSHIP OF OF THE
SENSITIVITY OF THE ISSUE AND
MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE
PROTECTING --
THE DOES THAT YOU THAT WE ALL
REPRESENT.
AND WHO HAS BEEN WORKING.
WHETHER IN EDUCATION OR IN STATE
SERVICE AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD
--
TO THE THAT THAT THE FRUITS OF
WHAT THEY'VE WORKED SO HARD FOR
SO I DO APPRECIATE.
THAT THE LOOK AT BALANCE THAT
YOU'VE HELP PRESERVE AND BUT AT
THE SAME TIME ENSURING.
STRONG MESSAGE IS SENT --
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT OUR
CONVERSATIONS --
ALSO --
EXTENDED BEYOND JUST --
DELUDE.
OUR WORK HERE IN THIS BUILDING
BUT ALSO WENT TO CALPERS.
A BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A VERY
MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION THAT
WE'VE HAD AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING
ON TAKING CERTAIN STEPS SO.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MOVING
FORWARD.
AND TARA UP ALSO OTHER
CONVERSATIONS TO CONTINUE GOING
FORWARD --
AND WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
WHERE I VOTE OKAY SO THE MOTIONS
TO PASS BUT FIRST REFERRED TO
SEND JUDICIARY IN THE MINUTES BE
TAKEN JUDICIARY SO THAT AMENDED
NOW.
AND IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CENTER
PORTANTINO US SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.
PAN AYE PAN AYE MURROW.
WELL I LIVE ON FIVE LIVE AYE
MORE LOOK [inaudible]
PORTANTINO [inaudible]
PORTANTINO I OKAY SO THAT BILLS
OUT.
FOUR ZERO THANK YOU.
JEFF OKAY AND I SEE SOME
MEMBERS.
SANTIAGO THINK YOU'RE NEXT.
OKAY SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR AB
NINETEEN THIRTY SEVEN CENTER
SANTIAGO PET MULTIPLY PAYROLL.
ACTION WELCOME.
HE WAS SURE [inaudible]
MMHM.
WHAT THE CHAIR PRESHEAF BREVITY
THIS LATE HOUR [inaudible]
TOYS -- AB
NINETEEN THIRTY SEVEN OR
STANDARDIZING CLARIFY EXISTING
LAWS IMPACTING PUBLIC EMPLOYERS.
I AM EMPLOYER ORGANIZATIONS
REGARD EXISTING --
PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS --
NOTHING IN AB NINETEEN THIRTY
SEVEN IS A DEPARTURE FROM CARL
LINE PRACTICES IN THIS
CONSISTENT WITH THE BASIC
PHILOSOPHY STRUCTURE OF
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
STATUES AND POLICIES IN
CALIFORNIA.
A CURRENTLY THERE IS NO
OPPOSITION I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE BUT WE HAVE ALSO
WITNESS.
OKAY THINK EQUIPMENT SHOCK CAST
OF THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES
INTERNATIONAL UNION WITH THE
SPONSORS I CAN ASK ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU --
OTHER WITNESSES SUPPORT.
JOHN SURPRISE SAID WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION OFTEN SUPPORT.
MICHAEL YOUNG WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION YOUR
SUPPORT IF YOU.
FIRST ROUND CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION OF TEACHERS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
BRIAN NELSON ON BEHALF NEW
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY MUNICIPAL.
EMPLOYEES AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
SIOBHAN DEMARCO'S WOULD LEAD YOU
W. APPS ME LOOK AT THEIR NINE
THIRTY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
RANGE FROM WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
MICHAEL PIVOTAL CALIFORNIA
FACULTY IT ASSOCIATIONS.
THANK YOU.
RIGHT --
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
TINA AND I QUESTIONS FOR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I THINK OKAY THE BILL'S BEEN
MOVED SAY NO QUESTION COMMITTEE
MEMBERS PREFER YOU BRING THIS
BILL FOR WHICH I CLOSE.
PERFECT CLASS FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT SO THE
MOTION IS TO PASS BUT FIRST
THREE REFERRED SAID
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEES MOVED
BY.
THEIR PORTANTINO SECTOR PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL PAN BY CAN I LEAVE
US WITH ME MORE LOCK
[inaudible]
WELL I LEYVA AYE [inaudible]
MORRELL.
PORTANTINO AYE PORTANTINO AYE.
CALL THE NEIGHBORLY.
YES I INSIST I AM.
WELL ARE.
AROUND [inaudible]
BROWN THEM.
OKAY SO THAT BILLS OUT.
THREE TO TAKE YOU [inaudible]
OKAY SO.
BUT IS OR WAITING FOR OTHER
MEMBERS WE CAN GO BACK IN THERE.
THE CALL ON PREVIOUS BILLS --
SO SEE ITEM NUMBER ONE WORRY FOR
US VINCE WITH.
ITEM NUMBER TWO A. B. NINETEEN
TWELVE BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ --
THE RUSSIANS TO PAST REFERRED TO
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE --
CIRCUIT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL OF
ABSENT MEMBERS [inaudible]
TOMORROW.
TOMORROW NO LEYVA AYE LEYVA AYE
MORE LOCK.
SO THAT BILLS OUT THREE TWO ONE
I SEE SOME MEMBER SALAS FLETCHER
HERE SO WHEN WE GO AHEAD AND TO
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX AB.
TWENTY FORTY NINE WELCOME.
THANK YOU W. BEGAN --
AB TWENTY FOUR NINE IT'S A
SIMPLE BILL THAT MAKES THE
PROCESSING OF COMMITTEE COLLEGES
CLASSIFIED SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
UNION MEMBERSHIP DUES UNIFORM AT
THE CURRENT PROCEDURE THAT SAYS
FOR PROCESSING TEACHERS DUES --
TWENTY FOUR NINE ENSURES THAT
SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO COMMIT
COLLEGES ARE INDEMNIFIED FOR
DEDUCTING MEMBERSHIP DUES BASED
ON PLAYS MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENTS I
THINK YOU ASKED FOR MY GOD.
WE THANK YOU WITNESSES SUPPORT
IS THE CHAIRMAN OF MEMBERS CHOI
SURPRISED SAID --
NOT TO REPEAT THE NOTHING DOT
HAS ALREADY SPOKEN UP AND ATTEND
DOT THERE'S NO OPPOSITION THANK
YOU OKAY THANK YOU OTHER
WITNESSES THE SUPPORT MICHELLE
CASF SERVICE EMPLOYEES
INTERNATIONAL UNION ALSO
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU MICHAEL YOUNG WITH
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
TREES AROUND CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION OF TEACHERS AND
SUPPORT YOU.
BRIAN NELSON WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ALRIGHT ANY WITNESSES
OPPOSITION.
XENON QUESTIONS COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
OKAY IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SIR
LEYVA SCENE NO QUESTIONS.
OF FUTURE YOU BRING THE BILL FOR
WHICH I CLOSE.
AS FREE AS THAT OKAY EXCELLENT
THANK YOU SO THE MOTION IS A DO
PASSED THE FIRST RE REFER TO
SEND APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
BINS MOVE BY SENATOR LEYVA
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
PAN FIGHT PIN AYE MORRELL.
MORE LIKE NO PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO AYE.
OKAY THAT THOUGH HAS THREE ONE
WILL PUT THE BILL ON COSTS YOU
CAN'T FIX MUCH PERSONS EMERALD
COMPACTLY.
JUST WANT [inaudible]
TO ALRIGHT.
OKAY SAID WERE --
WAITING --
FOR SUMNER VOTE FULL AND JOHN
WAS THE KITCHEN COUNTER OKAY
COULD.
HELP SOLVE THAT.
OKAY SO WE AS GOT SICK OF THE
CONSENT TELL.
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE UP
[inaudible]
NO.
OKAY ALRIGHT OKAY SO IT'S TO
THIS CONSENT CALENDARS BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR MORE LOCK THE
ITEMS ON THE CONSENT COLLEGES I
AND NUMBER THIRTEEN AB --
TWENTY SEVENTY SIX SURGERY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CAN I CAN I BORROW.
LIBA I BELIEVE I MORE LIKE MORE
LIKE AYE PORTANTINO.
PORTANTINO AYE THAT CAN TAKE
HOURS FOR A VOTE HAS FOUR VOTES
AND WE'LL PUT THE BILL ON CALL
[inaudible]
OKAY.
NOW LET'S JUST KEEP ROLLING DOWN
TO ADD VOTE SON SO I ITEM NUMBER
THREE AB NINETEEN SIXTEEN BY
SOMEONE MEMBERS COOPER THE
MOTIONS THE PAST FIRST REFERRED
SAID APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL OF
ABSENT MEMBERS.
LEYVA AYE LEYVA AYE.
OKAY SO THAT BILLS OUT.
FOUR TO ONE AND NEXT ITEM IS
ITEM NUMBER FOUR A. B. NINETEEN
THIRTY SEVEN AND RUSHED TO
PASSED ROUTE FIRST REFERRED SAID
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SECTOR
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ABSENT
MEMBERS.
BUT THE MOVE WAS ADVOCATE.
OF THAT ALTHOUGH THE TRAILER
BILL THREE OUT OF EXCEPT THOSE
THREE OUT THREE TWO SORRY.
AND FIVE TWENTY OKAY SO --
NEXT ITEMS ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB.
TWENTY SEVEN TO AT THE MOTION
IS.
THE PAST THREE REFER OUT FIRST
REFER TO SET APPROPRIATIONS
ACTED PLEASE CALL THE ROLL THAT
SOME MEMBERS CURRENT VOTERS TO
TO LEYVA AYE LEYVA AYE.
SELECT THOSE OUT.
THREE TO THAT WE JUST DID ITEM
NUMBER SIX WAY FOR SEVERAL TO
COME BACK AND OKAY SO.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BY SOME
MEMBERS AB TWENTY THREE OH FIVE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.
WHICH IS GOING TO BE REFERRED TO
APPROPRIATIONS ACT OF PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ABSENT MEMBERS
CURRENT VOTERS TO TO LEYVA AYE
LEYVA AYE OKAY SO THAT THOSE
OUT.
THREE TO OUR NEXT ITEMS AYE
NUMBER EIGHTY EIGHTY TWENTY
FORCE FIFTEEN OF A SUMMER CAO
CAO.
TELL THEIR OWN.
YEAH SO --
AND THAT --
THAT THOSE MOVED TO TO REFERRED
SAID PROCREATION SECTOR PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ABSENT MEMBERS
CURRENT VOTED THREE TO ONE LEYVA
AYE LEAVE AYE OKAY SO THAT'S
OUT.
FOR ONE OKAY AT C. AND THEN ITEM
NUMBER.
TEN OKAY SO ITEM NUMBER TEN AB
TWENTY SIX NINETY SIX BY SOME OF
RIVER RODRIGUEZ --
AND THAT --
IS SO REFERRED TO SEPARATE
CREATIONS COMMITTEE SECRECY CALL
THE ROLL ABSENT MEMBERS CURRENT
VOTERS TO TO LEYVA AYE LEYVA AYE
OKAY THAT FILLS OUT --
THREE TO NEXT IS --
I AND NUMBER ELEVEN AB
[inaudible]
THIRTY AMBER LOW.
WHICH IS GOING TO SET
APPROPRIATIONS SEPARATIST CALL
THE ROLL ABSENT MEMBERS CURRENT
VOTERS TO TO LEAVE OUR I'D LEAVE
AYE BECAUSE OF THAT BILLS OUT.
THREE TO AND THEN THE NEXT BILLS
ITEM NUMBER TWELVE A. B. THIRTY
ONE FORTY FIVE BY SOME MEMBERS
SALAS --
THAT'S GOING TO READ --
SENATE LABOR INDUSTRIAL ACTIONS
TAKEN PLEASE CALL THE ROLL OF
ABSENT MEMBERS CURRENT FOOD IS
THROUGH TO ZERO LEYVA AYE LEVER
AYE.
PORTANTINO AYE PORTANTINO AYE
OKAY THAT FILLS OUT.
FIVE ZERO OKAY AND ACTUALLY NOW
THAT CENTER --
MORALES HERE LET'S MOVE BACK TO
ITEM NUMBER.
SIX AB TWENTY FORTY NINE BY
SUMMARY GONZALEZ FLETCHER --
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
OF ABSENT MEMBERS.
CURRENT FOOD IS THREE TWO ONE
MARA.
BROWN THEM OKAY SO THAT THOSE
OUT.
THREE TWO AND THEN WE OF THE
CONCERTS DID YOU EVER ACCEPT.
THE FACT THAT THAT'S MOVING ON
TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR WHICH
ONLY HAS ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN
AB.
TWENTY SEVENTY SIX FAVORITE
THESE CULTURAL ABSENT MEMBERS
CURRENT VOTERS FORTY ZERO
MORRELL.
AYE LARA AYE SO PERCENT
CALENDARS OUT FIVE ZERO SO WE'RE
JUST --
WAITING FOR KHAN --
SOMERVELL FULL.
NUMBER.
NINE I FELT SORRY [inaudible]
WE HAVE.
THE RUSSIAN ONE OF US PRESENTS
[inaudible]
HE THAT. TO SEE IF I CAN POINTS
MADE ONE OF US CAN DO IT
[inaudible]
AND HER YEAH I'M JUST TRYING TO
HELP HIM TRY TELL IMPRISONMENT
BILL.
I AM NOT A VERY GOOD ADDITION
[inaudible]
YEAH.
WADS OF
SIX OKAY SO WE'RE WAIT
FOR SUMMIT.
ACTUALLY WE'LL TAKE IT.
LIKE A SET OF IT WILL TAKE A
BRIEF RECESS INTERVIEW SHOWS UP
BUT NO ONE LEAVES THE ROOM
PLEASE
.
I HAVE A SEVEN AMERICA SAYS A CO
AUTHOR OF THE BILL PRESENTED
BEHALF OF SOME EVER VOEPEL
WELCOME.
THANK YOU MUCH VERY MUCH MISTER
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE.
I HAD THE PLEASURE PRESENTING AB
TWENTY FOUR EIGHTY ONE A BILL
THAT WOULD IMPLEMENT A PILOT
PROGRAM AUTHORIZING A STATE
AGENCY TO ADOPT THE INFANT AT
WORK PROGRAM.
THE INFINITE WORK PROGRAM ALLOWS
EMPLOYEES OF THE AGENCY WHO ARE
NEW PARENTS OR CAREGIVERS. TO
BRING THE INFANT AGE SIX WEEKS
TO SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL CRAWLING
TO THE WORKPLACE.
SIMILAR PILOT PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN
ADOPTED IN OTHER STATES AFTER
WAS FOUND OF THE PILOT PROGRAM
INCREASED PARENT INFANT BONDING
EASIER BREASTFEEDING
ACCESSIBILITY FROM OTHERS
OVERALL REDUCED HEALTH CARE
COSTS FOR BABIES.
AND INCREASE EMPLOYEE MORALE AND
PARA PRODUCTIVITY FOR THESE
REASONS MEMBERS I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR I'VE UP THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ARE WITNESSES SUPPORT.
NAY ANY WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
RIGHT CRUSH SINS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS GET CENTER MORRELL AYE
HE SAID HER MELODIC CERTAIN
ROLES OF IT FLOCK.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
SOME OF THE CUTS THE FIRST
STEPPING AND I I I'VE AND IN ONE
OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS. TO
IT IT SUNSET IT STARTS JANUARY
OF ONE OF TWENTY NINETEEN BUT
SUNSETS.
THE NEXT YEAR.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF.
YOU KNOW JUST WANT TO DO IT FOR
JUST ONE YEAR.
AND THEN.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS IT ALSO
REQUIRES A SURGEON AND I I JUST.
WANTED A CLARIFICATION ON THAT
MAYBE THE CHAIR MIGHT KNOW WHY
YOU HAVE A THE REQUIREMENT FOR A
PHYSICIAN AND SURGEON.
SORRY DE CONSIDERING I JUST
STEPPED INTO THAT HOW THE ROLE
FOR THE MOMENT THAT I WASN'T
AWARE THE SURGEON PART THE ONE
YOU KNOW IS A PILOT PROGRAM
CITING THE THE COULD COMPROMISE
HERE IS THAT FOR THE ONE YEAR.
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO LONGER
I SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE IT
LONGER BUT YOU KNOW ONE YEAR --
I'M SORRY YOU SHARE WITH US JUST
TO CLARIFY I BELIEVE FIVE THERE
IS AND I'M YOU KNOW ADMITTED TO
EXIT AND ANOTHER YEAR OVER HERE
IS OKAY. TO YES REPEALS OKAY
THERE IS TWENTY GATHERS.
THANK YOU FOR HER AND THEN RIGHT
THANK YOU KNOW FIRST OF HIS
TOES.
PUNITIVE.
IN PARTICULAR I THINK YOU MISTER
KAHI I I GOT YOU ONE YEAR
ANOTHER YEAR RATTLING LOOK AT
THAT.
DISTANCE FROM HOME RIGHT.
TALKING YOU SHALL RECEIVE ORDERS
WE HAVE GOT A DOCTOR THAT'S
GOING TO HELP ME ON THE SECONDS
CAN ASK YES WELL BUTTONS ARE
LOCKED ALLOWED I'M JUST FIVE
SHAKE GIVE YOU THE EXACT CORRECT
ANSWER. 1% HIS [inaudible]
OKAY.
RIGHT OKAY SO SO I ACTUALLY AS A
LICENSED PHYSICIAN ACTUALLY
TECHNICALLY ITS POSITION AND
SURGEON IS THE LEGAL TERM SO
THAT'S WHY IT'S IT'S PHYSICIAN
AND SURGEON BUT THAT.
AND OR SEARCHING BUT PATAKI
POSITIONS SURGEON AND SO YOU
HAVE TO GET TWO SIGNATURES WELL
NO THAT DOESN'T APPLY TECHNICAL.
THE OTHER TECHNICAL OTHER PERSON
HAS TO BE THE SAME PERSON IS A
DEFINITIVE ANSWER IS YES I THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH GREAT
JOB.
THE FILM I GOT SO FRUSTRATED
THREE ANSWER.
VERY OTHERS HIGHLIGHTS THAT
YEAH.
CITIZENS SHOULD CONSIDER GOING
TO THE LIBRARY THAT AROUND AND
THE DISTINCTION [inaudible]
YEAH.
I I SHIP HE MIGHT WITH BILL.
I'M OF THE BILL OKAY AT ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
OKAY SPIN MOVE BY SENATOR.
MOORE LA.
AND SO THE OKAY SO THE MOTIONS
LEYVA AYE LEYVA AYE MORE LOCK.
WELL LIKE I PORTANTINO
[inaudible]
PORTANTINO I OKAY THE BILL HAS
FOUR VOTES THE SUMMER MONTHS.
OKAY SO ANYWAY SO WE WILL PUT
THAT BILL ON CALL.
OF THEM I THINK ALL THE
COMMUNITIES TO BE HERE.
WHAT'S THAT LIKE YOU CAN EXTRA
MUCH.
WHEN HE'S BACK
[inaudible]
YEAH [inaudible]
MARKETS [inaudible]
THERE.
WE HOPE THAT QUICK SAY OKAY YES
--
SO --
SECRETARY UP PLEASE SO LIFT THE
CALL ON ITEM NUMBER NINE AB
TWENTY FOUR EIGHTY ONE BY.
SOME MEMBER OF VOEPEL EXILES
FLETCHER ACEKARD PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL OF ABSENT MEMBERS MISSIONS
GOING TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT PHOTO IS SUPPORT TWO
ZERO MORALE.
I KNOW I OKAY THAT BILLS OUT
FIVE ZERO PACK INCLUDES THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU AYE THAT'S CONCLUDES
THE AGENDA FOR THE SAKE
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT
RETIRED A HEARING IS NOW
ADJOURNED THANK YOU [inaudible]
I HAVE