SUBCOMMITTEE YES A SUBCOMMITTEE
UNTIL WE HAVE SOME OF OUR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS --
WE HAVE A SPECIAL ORDER TODAY SO
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AB
NINE THIRTY NINE BUT BEFORE.
NINE THIRTY ONE SKIS ME --
BEFORE WE DO THAT I WANNA
ANNOUNCED. TO THE AGENDA --
AT NUMBER.
TWENTY ONE ITEM TWENTY ONE AB
TWENTY TREE OH TWO IT'S BEEN
CALLED.
OTHER THAN THAT THE REMAINING
AGENDA STAYS AS IS PRINTED --
AND WITH THAT.
MS WEBER YOU CAN COME TO THE
TABLE -- AND
AS AS YOU BRING YOUR WITNESSES
UP -- I'D
JUST LIKE TO ASK THOSE IN OUR
HEARING ROOM.
THAT -- WE
TIME IN ORDER FOR THE MEMBERS TO
HEAR TESTIMONY AND TO BE ABLE TO
DISCUSS AND RICK AND PROPERLY
HERE INVEST THE BILL.
WE DON'T REALLY USE THIS ROOM.
FOR D. CHEERING OR BOOING SO IF
YOU COULD RESPECT I KNOW THAT
THERE WILL BE OPINIONS EXPRESSED
THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WON'T
NECESSARILY AGREE WITH --
THAT HAPPENS THAT'S NORMAL
DISCOURSE SO IF YOU COULD --
HOLD YOUR CHEERS AND BOOS.
AND SUPPORT BY --
AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE --
AND THEN EACH SIDE WILL GET AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
AND I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF
EVERYONE IS RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
AND DATA WE WILL HAVE THEM MISS
WEBER BEGIN.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF BEFORE START WANT TO
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIR
AND HER STAFF WORKING WITH MY
STAFF AND OUR SPONSORS ON THE
VARIOUS AMENDMENTS.
WE THINK THEY MAKE THE BILL
STRONGER AND MORE DIRECT.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT AB NINE
THIRTY ONE THE POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND COMMUNITY
PROTECTION ACT.
THIS BILL SEEKS TO CHANGE
CALIFORNIA'S LEGAL STANDARD FOR
WHEN POLICE CAN USE DEADLY FORCE
TO MATCH BEST PRACTICES ALREADY
IN PLACE AT SOME DEPARTMENTS.
THE POWER OF THE POLICE OFFICERS
IS TO USE TO USE DEADLY FORCE OF
PERHAPS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
RESPONSIBILITY WE CONFER ON ANY
PUBLIC OFFICIAL.
AND IT MUST BE GUIDED BY THE
GOALS OF SAFEGUARDING HUMAN LIFE.
HOWEVER CURRENT LOS ANGELES
POLICE USE OF DEADLY FORCE EVEN
WHEN OFFICERS DO NOT FACE AN
IMMINENT THREAT TO LIFE OR
BODILY SECURITY.
AND EVEN WHEN OFFICERS HAVE
REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES AT THEIR
DISPOSAL TO SAY IF WE ADDRESS
THE SITUATION WITHOUT TAKING
ANYONE'S LIFE.
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING LAW
GOVERNING MORE THE POINT EIGHT
WHEN A HOMICIDE BY AN OFFICER IS
SCHOOL JUSTIFIED.
WAS WRITTEN IN.
EIGHTEEN SEVENTY TWO IS CALLED
BEING THE SINGLE OLD AS
UNAMENDED USE OF FORCE STATUTES
IN THE COUNTRY.
NOT ONLY FAILS TO INCLUDE BEST
PRACTICES DEADLY FORCE THAT
VIOLATES THE US CONSTITUTION.
THIS RESULTS IN PLEASE KILLING
MORE PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THAN
IN ANY OTHER STATE.
AND TWENTY SEVENTEEN OFFICER
SHOT AND KILLED A HUNDRED AND
SIXTY TWO PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA.
ONLY HALF OF WHOM WERE ARMED
WITH GUNS AND KILL MORE THAN
TWENTY OF THESE USING OTHER
TYPES OF FORCE.
AB NINE THIRTY ONE IS ABOUT
PREVENTING UNNECESSARY DEATHS BY
CLARIFYING LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
OBLIGATION WHEN MAKING THE
DECISION TO USE DEADLY FORCE.
THIS BILL LIMITS THE USE OF
DEADLY FORCE BY POLICE OFFICER
TO THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS
NECESSARY TO PREVENT IMMINENT
AND SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR
DEATH. TO THE OFFICER OR ANOTHER
PERSON.
THIS BILL IS SQUARELY IN LINE
WOULD BEST PRACTICES INSTEAD
IT'S RECOGNIZED BY ACADEMIES
ACADEMICS AND EXPERTS IN THE
FIELD AND ARE MODELED AFTER
PRATT POLICIES THAT ARE
CURRENTLY IN PLACE AT SEVERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AROUND
THE COUNTRY.
AB NINE THIRTY ONE SPONSORED BY
THE ACLU POLICY LINK PICO USE
JUSTICE COALITION ANTI POLICE
TEAR PROJECT AND COMMUNITIES
UNITED FOR RESTORATIVE USED
JUSTICE AND THE ALLIANCE.
A BOYS AND MEN OF COLOR.
THIS BILL HAS A LONG LIST OF
SUPPORTERS AS YOU'VE SEEN
INCLUDING THE SEIU THE AND
DOUBLY CP THE CALIFORNIA NURSES
ASSOCIATION BUT IMMIGRANT RIGHTS
GROUP AND FAITH BASED
ORGANIZATIONS.
HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF AB
NINE THIRTY ONE ARE PROFESSOR
STEPS SLOT ONE WHO'S A LAW
PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
SOUTH CAROLINA AND A FORMER
POLICE OFFICER.
PASTOR LESS SIMMONS WITH PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA AND SACRAMENTO ACT.
BELEIVE THAT TORETTO WHICH IS
THE YOUTH JUSTICE COALITION --
ORDINATOR AND FOR TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE PETER BE BRING WHICH
IS FROM THE ACLU --
BEFORE YOU ALLOW YOUR WITNESSES
TO PROCEED I'D LIKE TO ESTABLISH
QUORUM [inaudible]
SKINNER.
I'M HERE SKINNER HERE ANDERSON
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD HERE JACKSON IF JACKSON
HERE MITCHELL.
MITCHELL HERE STONE.
STONE HERE WIENER.
I'D END OF FOR THE WITNESSES
SINCE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HE'S
GONNA GOING TO WANT TO COME TO
THE MIKE.
AND I MATCHING IT WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A QUESTIONS IN THE DIETS.
IF YOU COULD --
BE BAD RESPECTFUL OF THE TIME
AND NOT BE REPETITIVE TO THE
OTHER WITNESS --
I DON'T LIKE TO JUST IMPOSE
UNNECESSARY TIME LIMITS BUT IF
ANYONE GOES ON BEYOND WHAT I
THINK IS REASONABLE I'M GOING TO
INTERRUPT YOU OKAY.
SO BUT YOU MAY PROCEED.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS SETH STOUGHTON I'M
HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A
BEAT.
NINE THIRTY ONE A LAW PROFESSOR
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
CAROLINA SPENT THE LAST HALF
DOZEN YEARS STUDYING THE
REGULATION OF POLICING.
ALSO A FORMER POLICE OFFICER.
MY TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL IS GROUNDED NOT ONLY MY
ACADEMIC RESEARCH.
BUT ALSO MY OWN EXPERIENCES
CONDUCTING STOPS MAKING ARRESTS
AND USING FORCE.
THE CURRENT LAW PENAL CODE ONE
NINETY SIX IS PAINFULLY OUTDATED
IT RETAINS AN APPROACH DEADLY
FORCE THAT HAS BEEN REJECTED BY
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE STATE'S.
AND BY THE SUPREME COURT. NINE
THIRTY ONE IN CONTRAST LAYS OUT
A FEASIBLE AND APPROPRIATE
STANDARD FOR REGULATING POLICE
USES OF DEADLY FORCE.
IT STATES THAT DEADLY FORCE IS
JUSTIFIED WHEN IT IS NECESSARY
TO ADDRESS AN IMMINENT THREAT OF
DEATH.
OR GREAT BODILY HARM.
SOME COMMENTATORS HAVE OBJECTED
TO THE WORD NECESSARY.
BUT MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT
CURRENT STATE LAW USES THE SAME
WORD.
PENAL CODE ONE NINETY SIX
PERMITS THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE
ONLY WHEN IT IS NECESSARILY
COMMITTED FOR SPECIFIED PURPOSES.
MORE IMPORTANTLY THOUGH IS OW
NINE THIRTY ONE DEFINES
NECESSARY.
AS DEFINED BY NINE THIRTY ONE
THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS
NECESSARY WHEN GIVEN THE
TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES IT
REASONABLE OFFICER WOULD
CONCLUDE THAT THERE WAS NO
REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE.
THAT CAN ADDRESS THE THREAT OF
DEATH OR GREAT BODILY HARM.
WHAT IS THE BILL MEAN BY
TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES?
NINE THIRTY ONE DOES NOT JUDGE
OFFICERS ACTIONS BY USING
INFORMATION THAT THE OFFICER
COULD NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF
INSTEAD IT DEFINES TOTALITY OF
THE CIRCUMSTANCES AS ALL FACTS
REASONABLY KNOWN TO THE OFFICER
AT THE TIME.
SO DEADLY FORCE IS PERMITTED
WHEN UNDER THE FACTS REASONABLY
KNOWN TO THE OFFICER AT THE TIME.
A REASONABLE OFFICER WOULD
CONCLUDE THAT THERE WAS NO
REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE TO THE
USE OF DEADLY FORCE.
WHAT IS A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE?
NINE THIRTY ONE DOES NOT REQUIRE
OFFICERS TO GO DOWN AN IMAGINARY
CHECKLIST.
IT DEFINES INSTEAD REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVES AS THOSE THAT DO
NOT UNREASONABLY INCREASE THE
THREAT POSED TO THE OFFICER OR
ANOTHER PERSON.
THE BILL PROVIDES A SHORT AND
NONEXCLUSIVE LIST OF WHAT MAY
INAPPROPRIATE SITUATIONS BE
CONSIDERED A REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVE.
IT SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL
TO SUGGEST THAT IF A REASONABLE
OFFICER WOULD PERCEIVE THAT
THEIR WAS A WAY TO SAFELY
ADDRESS A THREAT WITHOUT USING
DEADLY FORCE.
BUT THAT ALTERNATIVE IS
PREFERABLE TO THE TAKING OF
HUMAN LIFE.
IMPORTANTLY FOR BOTH THE
DETERMINATION OF WHETHER THERE
WAS AN IMMINENT THREAT AND GREAT
BODILY HARM AND WHETHER THERE
WERE ANY REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.
THE RELEVANT STANDARD UNDER NINE
THIRTY ONE IS WHAT A REASONABLE
OFFICER ON THE SCENE WOULD
PERCEIVE.
IN SHORT UNDER NINE THIRTY ONE
THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS
JUSTIFIED IF A REASONABLE
OFFICER.
WOULD CONCLUDE THAT THERE IS NO
ALTERNATIVE BUT COULD SAY IF WE
ADDRESS AN IMMINENT THREAT OF
DEATH OR GREAT BODILY HARM.
THIS IS A FEASIBLE APPROPRIATE
AND REASONABLE STANDARD THAT
WILL SAVE THE LIVES OF HIS MERE
OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ALL
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS LA
BERETTA COMMON ORGANIZER WITH
THE YOUTH JSTICE COALITION.
AND I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE
YES ON A. B..
NINE THIRTY ONE I'M SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND ALL THE
FAMILIES WHO ARE HERE BECAUSE WE
LOST OUR LOVED ONES --
TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL
THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES WHO WERE
ABLE TO COME TODAY.
IN SEPTEMBER OF TWO THOUSAND
TWELVE WHEN I WAS.
SIXTEEN MY ANTICS TO ME TO SEE
THAT MIGHT COUSIN JUNIOR HAD
BEEN KILLED.
HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED BUT
LITTLE DID WE KNOW THAT IT WAS
AT THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
MY COUSIN WITH ONLY.
FOURTEEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN
CELEBRATING HIS TWENTY FIRST
BIRTHDAY THIS YEAR BUT INSTEAD.
HE'S BURIED DEEP UNDERGROUND.
WE DON'T HAVE MANY DETAILS ABOUT
WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE THE STOP
BY POLICE LASTED ONLY A BRIEF
MOMENT BEFORE MY COUSIN WAS SHOT
TWICE IN THE LOWER BODY.
JUNIOR WAS CRAWLING AWAY FROM
THE OFFICERS WHO WHEN HE WAS
SHOT TWO MORE TIMES.
IN THE BACK AND ONCE IN BEHIND
THE HEAD --
NEAR HIS EAR.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE WENT TO THE
SCENE WE SAW A SMALL POOL OF
BLOOD.
WHERE HE WAS FIRST HIT?
AND THEN WE SAW A TRAIL OF BLOOD
WHEN HE WAS CALLING AWAY.
AND THEN FINALLY WE SAW A LARGE
POOL OF BLOOD WHERE HE FINALLY
DIED.
WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE OFFICERS
INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTING SEE
THAT THAT HE SAW.
IN PART BECAUSE YOU SAW UP LINKS
TO MY COUSIN'S ICE.
AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT FROM FROM
POLICE STATEMENTS IN THE DA'S
REPORT THAT THERE WAS PASSED
[inaudible]
GIVE.
BUT THERE WAS NO DE ESCALATION
STRATEGIES USED BY POLICE AT THE
SCENE.
THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT TO COVER.
TO TAKE COVER WHILE QUESTIONING
MY COUSIN.
NO CALL FOR MENTAL HEALTH OR
OTHER RESOURCES.
AND FINALLY WE KNOW THAT THE
POLICE OFFICERS AT THE SCENE DID
NOT DID NOTHING TO STOP ME
COULDN'T BLEEDING.
RESUSCITATE HIM OR PLAY ANY
OTHER MEDICAL AID.
CALIFORNIA LEADS THE NATION IN
W. SO FORCE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS KILL
MORE PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THAN
IN ANY OTHER STATE.
AND TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN ALONE
LAW ENFORCEMENT IN CALIFORNIA
SHOT AND KILLED A HUNDRED AND
SIXTY TWO PEOPLE.
HALF OF THE PEOPLE WERE NOT
ARMED WITH ANY TYPE OF GUN.
OF THE FIFTEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES WITH THE HIGHEST PER
CAPITA RATES OF USE OF FORCE
KILLINGS IN THE U. S.. FIVE ARE
IN CALIFORNIA.
THE ARE BAKERSFIELD STOCKTON SAN
TANA WHERE MY COUSIN WAS KILLED.
SAN BERNARDINO IN LONG BEACH.
KERN COUNTY HAS THE HIGHEST OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT USE OF FORCE
KILLINGS IN THE NATION.
ALLIE COUNTY LEADS THE NATION IN
USE OF FORCE HOMICIDES WITH THAT
LEAST EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY
ONE PEOPLE.
KILL BETWEEN JANUARY OF TWO
THOUSAND AND AND DECEMBER OF TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN LAPD AND THE
LA SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT LEAD ALL
OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE HIGHEST
NUMBER OF DEBTS.
AND TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN LAPD
KILLED THREE TIMES AS MANY
PEOPLE AS IN THE NEW YORK POLICE
DEPARTMENT EVEN THOUGH AL LAPD
ONLY HAS ONE FOURTH AS MANY
POLICE.
ALLIE COUNTY IS 9% BLACK.
BUT 28% OF THE P. 28% OF THE
PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED A BLACK.
AND THE U. S. LAW ENFORCEMENT
KILLS YOU YOUNG UNARMED BLACK
MEN AT A RATE TWENTY TIMES
HIGHER.
THAN THE KILL YOUNG ON ARMED
WHITEMAN.
CALIFORNIA'S LAW GOVERNING
HOMICIDES BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS
PENAL CODE ONE NINETY SIX BUT
PASSED IN EIGHTEEN SEVENTY TWO
AND HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED SINCE.
IT WAS PASSED AT A TIME WHEN
CALIFORNIA HAD THE HIGHEST
LYNCHING RATES IN THE NATION.
CLASS AT A TIME WHEN 90% OF
NATIVE PEOPLE IN OUR STATE WERE
KILLED.
WHO WAS ALSO PASSED ONE YEAR
AFTER THE LARGEST LAND MASS
LYNCHING IN U. S. HISTORY?
THE CHINESE MASSACRE IN DOWNTOWN
LA.
WHEN A BOMB MOB LED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE HUNG FIFTEEN CHINESE MEN?
TWO WOMEN AND ONE CHILD IN THE
STREETS.
MANY MORE WORK MANY MORE PEOPLE
WERE KILLED AND TRANSCEND WAS
BURNED TO THE GROUND.
THE THIS OLD LAW GOVERNING USE
OF FORCE IS FAR BELOW THE
STANDARD SET BY A U. S.
CONSTITUTION OR THE STANDARD
OUTLINED BY THE UNITED STATES
SUPREME COURT.
IS THIS THE BEST PLACE WERE
CALIFORNIA CAN BE IN.
TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN BE JUST
WHERE WE WERE A HUNDRED AND
FORTY SIX YEARS AGO.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF OUR
FAMILIES ALL OF OUR FAMILY
MEMBERS WAS BARELY DISCUSSING
THE NEWS?
MOST OF THE TIME OUR FAMILY
MEMBERS THE VICTIMS.
ARE THERE NEEDS ARE JUST REDUCED
TO A FEW LINES AND IDEAS YOU
POUR IN A POLICE STATEMENT.
BUT FAR FAMILIES FROM MY FAMILY
THE DEATHS LAST US A LIFETIME
EVERY BIRTHDAY EVERY HOLIDAY.
EVERY CELEBRATION IS HOLLOW.
AND EVERY FOR EVERY FAMILY
GATHERINGS FILLED WITH PAIN.
AND ALL KILLINGS AND ANSWER TO
MATT IT BUT IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD
WHEN A LIFE IS TAKEN BY THOSE
WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND
SERVE.
I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY HERE WILL
ALWAYS GET TO GO HOME OF THEIR
CHILDREN IF YOU HAVE ANY AND
WATCH THEM GOING HAVE CHILDREN
OF THEIR OWN.
BUT THAT'S A PRIVILEGE THAT THE
FAMILIES TODAY DON'T HAVE.
WE STILL HAVE TO FIGHT A WE
STUCK TO TELL OUR STORIES
BECAUSE WE ARE VOICES OF OUR
LOVED ONES.
BECAUSE THE USE OF FORCE.
BECAUSE W. SO FORCE VICTIMS IN
CALIFORNIA THERE NEVER BE
JUSTICE WILL NEVER HAVE CLOSURE.
SO WE ARE URGING YOU TO PLEASE
VOTE YES ON AB NINE THIRTY ONE
ACTUALLY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
SAVE LIVES [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS.
BLESSED SIMMONS MONTH LEADER
WITH PECO CALIFORNIA.
SWELL IS A LOCAL LEADER WAS
SACRAMENTO ACT AREA
CONGREGATIONS WITH OVER SIXTY
FIVE DIFFERENT.
AREN'T SUPPORTED CONGREGATIONS A
WITHIN THE CITY.
A PASTOR WHO COMMUNITY LEADER A
ONE POINT I WAS.
THE CHAIR FOR THE POLICE
COMMISSION'S EMPIRE IS A
PROVIDES RE COMMISSION FOR THE
CITY OF SACRAMENTO.
I HELP BILL COPS AND CLERGY.
AT ONE POINT TO START A BETTER
RELATIONSHIP WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
LET ME JUST.
THINK BACK FOR A MOMENT
[inaudible]
TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN AUGUST
NINTH [inaudible]
MICHAEL BROWN.
IN FERGUSON MISSOURI.
AND WE ALL SAW THAT AS A NATION.
I REMEMBER GETTING CALLED BY
SOME FRIENDS IN FLYING OUT TO
FERGUSON IN WALKING THE STREETS
IN.
AND REALLY GETTING THE FEEL FOR
WHAT WAS GOING ON AND COMING
BACK TO SACRAMENTO WHEN.
B. INSTEAD WELL THAT'S NOT
SACRAMENTO FERGUSON IS IN
SACRAMENTO.
AND I REMEMBER SAYING OKAY YOU
KNOW LET'S HAVE SOME DIALOGUE
ABOUT IT.
AND AFTER TALKING WITH SOME
POLICE FELLOWS. ONE OF THEM SAID
MICHAEL BROWN HAD TO COME IN.
AND I HAD TO SAY TO HIM.
SO A YOUNG MAN LOSES HIS LIFE.
OVER A PACK OF CIGARETTES
[inaudible]
ARE.
SOME FALSE ACCUSATION.
WE SEE A YEAR HE HAD A COMMON
[inaudible]
AND THEN [inaudible]
IN SACRAMENTO.
JOSEPH MAN HAPPY [inaudible]
IN SACRAMENTO [inaudible]
LORENZO CREWS DEJAN FLOW NO
[inaudible]
RYAN ELLIS [inaudible]
DESMOND PHILLIPS [inaudible]
STEFAN CLARK.
YOU SAY THAT AGAIN [inaudible]
STEFAN CLARK.
AND THE MOST RECENTLY
[inaudible]
BRENDAN SMITH.
AND THE LIST GOES ON THESE ARE
NOT JUST NAMES.
WE CAN'T JUST SAY ANYMORE
[inaudible]
CALIFORNIA SACRAMENTO IS IN
FERGUSON.
THE BLOOD IS ON OUR HANDS. TO
ENVISION A FUTURE TOGETHER OR
OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.
BLACK AND BROWN [inaudible]
POR WEALTHY.
CAN LIVE A LONG LIFE AFTER
ENCOUNTER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AS A FAITH LEADER.
I COULD NO LONGER BE A CHAPLAIN.
TO A FAILING SYSTEM.
TRISTAN ON THE SCENE.
AND PARTNER WRONG.
WE HAVE TO BE VISIONARY LEADERS.
ENVISIONING WHAT TOMORROW LOOKS
LIKE. FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
THIS BILL HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED
SINCE EIGHTEEN SEVENTY SELDOM.
THE LAST TIME KNOWN.
BILLS THAT WERE CREATED ACK IN
ONE CREATED IN MY FAVOR.
THERE WERE CREATED TO HURT US.
IT IS UP TO US AS CALIFORNIANS
ITS UP TO US TO SACRAMENTO INS.
TO REIMAGINE OUR FUTURE TOGETHER.
ONE THAT ALLOWS FOR OUR KIDS OUR
CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. ONE THAT
ALLOWS FOR LONG FORCE MEAN TO BE
SAFE AS WELL.
WE NEED GUARDIANS NOT LAWYERS.
WE NEED PROTECTORS.
NOT COPS AND ROBBERS STYLE
POLICING.
WE STAND IN SUPPORT.
OF AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE AND HOPE YOU
APPROVE IT TODAY [inaudible]
DEMAND YOU PUSH YOU [inaudible]
REQUEST YOU.
AFTER APPROVED IT TODAY THANK
YOU [inaudible]
NEXT WITNESS.
THAT WAS IT.
BOB OKAY QUALITIES THANK YOU NON.
BUT BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS
FROM THE DYESS --
AN I KNOW WE WILL HAVE EVERYONE
ELSE FEELS SPEAK.
WELL I'LL ASK YOU TO IT WHO AM
OUTLINED THE MINUTES LATER SO
WHEN WE HAVE THE OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT I THINK WE HAVE A
MIKE [inaudible]
THERE [inaudible]
IN THE AND IT CAN BE --
ADJUSTED SO IF YOU'RE TALLER YOU
CAN JUST PUSH UP.
MIKE LIKE THIS AND OTHERWISE YOU
CAN PUSH IT DOWN.
SO IF YOU I NOT.
AND WHAT I'D APPRECIATE SINCE
WE'VE HAD SOME VERY POWERFUL
TESTIMONY IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE
YOUR NAME.
IF YOU HAVE AN AFFILIATION AND
THEN -- JUST
YES YET YOU SUPPORT OR NOT
SUPPORT NINE THIRTY ONE ALRIGHT
IN GO AHEAD FIRST WITNESS PLEASE
START.
THE ATTACHMENTS ARE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA PROPOSE SPONSOR IN
SUPPORT [inaudible]
PERFECT NEXT.
ERIC HARASSMENT THE CALIFORNIA
STATE NAACP PROUDLY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
BUT TO TO CORD POUR THERE.
WITHIN NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK
SACRAMENTO AND NATIONAL THE
GENESIS CHURCH AND NOT THE
COMMUNITY WORST UPPER CLARK WAS
SHOT AND KILLED.
EXTEND THE SUPPORT.
I'M ANTHONY ROBERT THAT YOU JUST
HAVE COALITION IN THIS IS
RICHARD TYSON WAS UNARMED AND
KILLED BY INGLEWOOD POLICE
DEPARTMENT WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE VERONICA NELSON
MEMBER OF SACRAMENTO REAL TOOTH
BAY PACK AND MOTHER OF THE BLACK
SUN.
JERRY YOU JUSTICE COALITION I'M
HERE FOR GONZALEZ MARTINEZ WAS
KILLED BY DOWNEY PUT DOWNEY
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT.
IN MIGUEL FROM YOU JUSTICE
COALITION WERE HONORED BECAUSE
SPONSORS ALSO HERE TDAY FOR DE
ANDRE PRINCETON WHO WAS SHOT
EIGHTY ONE TIMES BY THE LA
COUNTY SHERIFF'S LEFT ON THE
PORCH TO DIE.
WHILE THE MEDEVAC TO THE POLICE
DOG TO THE HOSPITAL.
LISTED IN THERE AMNESTY
INTERNATIONAL IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
ROSA CABRERA ON BEHALF OF POLICY
LINK IN THE ALLIANCE FOR BOYS
AND MEN OF COLOR WE'RE VERY
PROUD CO SPONSORS AND VERY PROUD
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL.
GOOD MORNING PLAN BACK IS FOR
DRUG POLICY ALLIANCE SIMILAR
BAKER CENTER. FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
IN STRONG SUPPORT.
PD BURROUGHS'S GRANDMOTHER
KILLED BY THE RICHMOND POLICE.
UNARMED.
NO REASON TO KILL HIM I STRONGLY
SUPPORT NINE THIRTY ONE A. B..
NINE THIRTY AND ON THE
GRANDFATHER OF PD PEREZ
[inaudible]
ALSO.
ACCORDING.
NINE THIRTY ONE AND THE COP
ALREADY HAD SEARCH THEIR MANY
KNEW THAT THE GUY WAS.
UNARMED BUT HE SHOT HIM ANYWAY.
ERICA ADDING GONE ON BEHALF OF
POLICY LINK IN THE ALLIANCE FOR
BOYS AND MEN OF COLOR IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
AUTHORING THE SUPPORT
LEGISLATION.
MISTER BAHRAM FROM THE ALLIANCE
FOR BOYS MEN OF COLOR POLICY
THINK WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
JAMES SWIMMING WITH BAY PAT.
ARE WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL.
OUR I PERSONALLY HAVE SERVED ON
POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION TWICE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS
NEEDED NOT ONLY IN CALIFORNIA.
BUT ALL ACROSS THE NATION WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT.
PASSED AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE MY NAME IS SHE
DOES THE EASY I'M WITH THE Y. JC.
I STAND --
FOR JUSTICE FOR SUSIE LOPEZ.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT BANKING.
WHEN A MENTAL LIST OF PART OF
WHY JC AMIR FOR JOINING MARTINEZ
WHO SU BY LA SHERIFF'S?
STRONG SUPPORT HIS BILL.
MY NAME IS KALAW FERGUSON.
I REPRESENT THE BLACKNESS
SEXTAPE THAT INCLUDES BLACK
STUDENT UNION NEST APPELLANT
ACCOUNTS OR SACRAMENTO STATE AS
WELL AS UNDERGRADUATES HAVE BEEN
BY OUT OF MY DATA AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE I'M ANTHONY
STRUCTURE WITH THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA HERE
IN STRONG SUPPORT.
CALVIN QUICK BAY AREA STUDENT
ACTIVISTS SUPPORT.
MY NAME IS TAMARA AND IN HERE
WITH YOU JUSTICE COALITION.
AND I'M HERE FOR ITSELF.
FOR EDWARD WITH THE WAY JC IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
MANAGER MEMBERS JACOB AWESOME TO
HAVE A PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES
IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING DARCY VARNA WITH
THE GREATER SACRAMENTO.
URBAN LEGAL SONG SUPPORT AB
LIKELY.
ONE PERFECT UNION A CONSIDERS
WHAT THE COUNCIL ON AMERICAN
ISLAMIC RELATIONS CALIFORNIA THE
NATION'S LARGEST MUSLIM CIVIL
RIGHTS GROUP.
IN STRONG SUPPORTER AND ALSO.
ON BEHALF OF THE ADVANCEMENT
PROJECT BECAUSE NADIA HUSSEIN
COUNCIL ON AMERICAN ISLAMIC
RELATIONS AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL.
TUNISIA OEMS ELLA BAKER CENTER
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF AB.
NINE THREE ONE MY NAME IS REGINA
AND I'M HERE SUPPORT A. B.
NINETY ONE AND REST IN PEACE FOR
JACOB DOMINGUEZ THOSE KILLED IT
BY SOUNDS APD.
UNARMED EXECUTED.
MY NAME IS STACY ANDERSON WITH
THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF NEGRO
WOMEN WE STRONGLY SUPPORT AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE I'M JOHN RIEGER
WITH PEACE AND FREEDOM PARTY'S
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WE URGE A
STRONG SUPPORT OF AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE FOR MARGOT
GEORGE FROM THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
STRONG SUPPORT.
BRUCE SHAKEN UP OAKLAND
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND
COALITION FOR POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT.
SHE GALLON --
CAME UP FROM SANTA CLARA TODAY
OF WITH THE AMERICAN POLICING
PROJECT WE STRONGLY SUPPORT.
PAUL WOODS WITH CONSUMER
ATTORNEYS A CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT.
ALAMO SHARE A MEMBER OF THE
BAHAI FAITH ALSO ASSOCIATE
PROFESSOR.
OF THE UC DAVIS SCHOOL OF
MEDICINE.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO IS
RESPONSIBLE --
FOR TREATING THESE VICTIMS IN
THE OPERATING ROOM WHAT I'D LIKE
TO TESTIFY THAT WE'RE OVERDUE
FOR SENSIBLE POLICING REFORM I
STRONGLY SUPPORT.
AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE I AM NASEEM
ARAFAT I AM ALSO FROM THE BUDGET
FAITH AND ALSO IN SUPPORT.
OF BEING [inaudible]
NINE THIRTY ONE VISIT.
VICIOUS STURDIVANT.
COUNCIL OF JEWISH WOMEN
SACRAMENTO SECTION IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC
SAFETY MAJOR.
JOSH CRITICAL WITHOUT FLORA IN
JAPANESE AMERICAN CITIZENS
LEAGUE OF SACRAMENTO VALLEY
STRONG SUPPORT FOR A BI.
NINE THIRTY ONE ON THE CRESCENTA
GRENACHE FROM OAKLAND CALIFORNIA.
COALITION FOR POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY MOTHER OF RAFAEL
AND LUKE GRENACHE WHO WERE
KILLED BY OAKLAND POLICE IN.
NINETEEN NINETY THREE I AM NOT
TO SURE DOWN THE ROWS OF HER
BACK FOR CALIFORNIA ON THAT ONE
OF THE DEADLIEST COUNTIES.
AND I AM THE MOTHER JANE
TOLERANCE I AND I SUPPORT.
THE S. B. A BE NINE THIRTY ONE
HE WAS MURDERED BY THE PICTURE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I GOTTA BICU NAME WRONG.
THERE WERE ALSO MURDERED HER
COUNTY.
I REBEKAH DOLOROSA THE ACT OF
JAMES OLIVER ALSO --
PETE MY NEPHEW WAS KILLED BY THE
BAKERSFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I SUPPORT.
I'M.
THIRTY ONE AND EMERGENCY AND
FROM THE Y. OPEZ AND I SUPPORT
THIS BILL IN THAT OR ANYBODY DID
IT WEALTH WITHOUT AT I THINK.
LOOK LIKE ME.
I SUPPORT THIS BILL BECAUSE MY
SON SUFFERS TRAUMA IN THE
AFTERMATH AFTER HIS FATHER WAS
KILLED BY SOME OF A STATE POLICE
OFFICER SHOT TWICE IN THE BACK.
UNTIL THIS DAY WITH THEY'VE
NEVER RELEASED ANYTHING THEY PUT
OUR CASE ON A GAG ORDER SIMPLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
KIDS DON'T NEED TO BE SUFFERING
TRAUMA NAY AFTERMATH
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS SANDY SANCHES ON
THE MOTHER ANTONIN UNIONS --
HE WAS SHOT HE WAS MURDERED IN
FRONT OF OUR WHOLE --
USE ONLY EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD --
SO PLEASE I SUPPORT THIS BILL EQ.
PENINSULA RIGHT NOW COURAGE
PUBLICADA FORNEY I'M HERE TO
REPRESENT --
OVER FIVE HUNDRED YEARS OF MY
AND SUCH AS BEING MURDERED I
SUPPORT AB NOT.
THIRTY ONE ELICITED TEARS AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
ANGELIQUE VARGAS AND I SUPPORT
THIS BILL.
RE NOT GOOD THAT'LL AND IF
APPLICABLE.
I'M MY NAME'S LZ Y. WAS SILICON
VALLEY PEOPLE I'M HERE FOR ALL
MORAL BUT IT WILL --
KILLED BY LAPD AND SUPPORT JUST
BILL.
NINE THIRTY ONE HI MY NAME IS
LISA KANE AND SOLIDARITY WITH
WEALTH AND DISPARITIES IN THE
BLACK COMMUNITY JUSTICE FOR
MARIO WOODS.
AND SEARCH SAN FRANCISCO AND
WHERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
PASSING AB NINE THIRTY ONE THANK.
I'M STEVE ROGERS WITH FIVE KEYS
SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS AND ONLY
MISSING HOMELESS SHELTER --
I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ALL
SEVEN OF YOU --
NOT TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY. TO
STAND UP FOR THE LIVES OF YOUR
CONSTITUENTS BY SUPPORTING AB
NINETY ONE WITH ME [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
HELLO EVERYONE I'M LESTER MASAM
YOUTH ACTIVISTS IN THE USUAL FAN
TO THIS COMMUNITY AND I'VE SEEN
PERSONALLY --
BEEN PULLED OVER BY POLICE HAVE
BEEN PERSONALLY SCARE FOR MY
LIFE AND MY FELLOW OF FILL
FRIENDS IN THE CAR. FOR THE
REASON THAT I WAS WHITE AND HE
TREATED ME NICER COMPARATIVELY
TO MY DARKER SKIN FRIENDS WHO
WERE PULLED OVER AND WHERE IT'S
JUST GOT TAKEN OUT OF THE CAR SO
THIS IS THE REASON WHY AB THANK
THIRTY ONE IS THE BILL THAT
WOULD BE ASKING LEGAL SITUATIONS.
GOOD MORNING TAYLOR JACKSON WITH
THE CALIFORNIA NURSES
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING OVER
ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND NURSES ARE
STATEWIDE HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE WE SEE LUIS ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA LATINAS TO
REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FREEDOM
FROM VIOLENCE IS WHEN THE COURT
TENANTS VIRTUE REPRODUCTIVE
JUSTICE AND ACCESS.
ANALYSIS LYNCH WITH PEOPLE
ACTING IN COMMUNITIES TOGETHER
SAN JOSE PART OF PICO I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
HI SUSAN MORE OF I'M AN ACTIVIST
IN SAN JOSE AND I STAND WITH MY
BROTHERS AND SISTERS I URGE YOU
TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND PASS
THIS BILL.
OUR MONEY OF SUBSIDIES BY ONE I
WORK WITH COMMITTEES UNITED FOR
A RESTORED URGES YOU JUSTICE IN
OAKLAND CALIFORNIA.
OUR SUPPORT AB NINE THIRTY ONE
OF MY FRIENDS ALEX NEATO.
AND WHO DO I ALLOW WERE BOTH
UNARMED AND MORE UNJUSTLY KILLED.
BY POLICE OFFICERS IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA RG PLEASE PASS THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
AND CLAIMS TO PIONEERS ON WITH
COMMUNITIES UNITED'S COMMITTEES
UNITED FOR RESTORATIVE YOU JUST.
NON --
STRONGLY SUPPORT A. B..
NINE THIRTY ONE MY NAME IS YET A
LIAM FROM OAKLAND I CAN IMPART
OF COURAGE.
AND I CAME TO THE POOR A. B. --
MIND.
MORNING THANK YOU AGAIN.
OF MARLENE SANDERS WITH
COMMUNITIES UNITED FOR A SORT OF
YOUTH JUSTICE I'VE HAD FRIENDS
WHO'VE BEEN MURDERED BY POLICE.
OF MEN AND IN THEIR MEMORY WE
CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE
AND SUPPORT A. B..
NINE THIRTY ONE MY NAME IS
THERESA SMITH.
I'M THE MOTHER OF CAESAR CREWS
WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED.
SHOT FIFTEEN TIMES IN THE BACK
BY FIVE POLICE OFFICERS IN
ANAHEIM.
AND I'M HERE TODAY SUPPORTING
THIS PUMP INSTEAD OF CELEBRATING
HIS BIRTHDAY TODAY.
PLEASE PASS THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS REVEREND KEVIN ROSS
I'M THE SENIOR MINISTER OF UNITY
OF SACRAMENTO A MEMBER OF
SACRAMENTO ACT THE AMERICAN
LEADERSHIP FORM IN THE
ASSOCIATION FOR GLOBAL THE
THOUGHT.
THEM A PASSER VERY COMMITTED TO
RACIAL HEALING OFTEN ON THE
SCENE TO HELP HEAL THE COMMUNITY
PARTICULARLY AFTER THAT THE
SHOOTING DEATH OF STEFAN CLARK.
I BELIEVE THAT AB NINE THIRTY
ONE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
CALIFORNIA TO LEAD THE WAY FOR
THE NATION TO DEMAND THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
ADDRESS THEIR TRIGGERS BEFORE
THEY PULL THE TRIGGER.
AND POLICE IN A WAY TO PRESERVE
LIFE UP WHOLE DIGNITY.
AND RESTORES TRUST BETWEEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
AND A STRONG SUPPORT AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE GOOD MORNING MY
NAME IS A SAILBOAT NUNLEY
HALFTIME WITH BLACK WOMEN
ORGANIZE FOR POLITICAL ACTION WE
ARE STRONGLY IN SUPPORT.
OF AB NINE THIRTY ONE THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS PASTOR
DE AND MERGE WHO I'M WITH SAINT
PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH HERE IN
SACRAMENTO.
AND SACRAMENTO ACT I STRONGLY
SUPPORT AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE LIMA CLINTON
SACRAMENTO ACT PEAK OF NETWORK.
I URGE OUR SENATORS ARE LEADERS
OF CALIFORNIA TO BE AT THE
FOREFRONT OF CHANGE ACROSS THIS
NATION IN PASSING AB NOT THIRTY
ONE HITTING THIS RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS THEATER
WHEN I AM A MEMBER OF
CONGREGATION BEEN A ISRAEL OF
SACRAMENTO.
ALSO A MEMBER OF SACRAMENTO ACT.
I'M AN ATTORNEY AND A FORMER
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE I
SUPPORT THIS BILL WHOLEHEARTEDLY
AND I BELIEVE THAT.
OUR SOCIETY HAS TO BEGIN.
AND AFFIRMATIVELY CREATE JUSTICE
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS MARC JACOBS DIRECTOR
OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM.
CALLED YOU'VE EXPLOSION
REPRESENTING FIFTEEN HUNDRED AND
RISING.
MUSCLE COMMUNITY OUT REACH CHAIR
OF BAY PACK.
BLACK AMERICAN POLITICAL
ASSOCIATION.
I'M ALSO REPRESENTING MYSELF AND
MY TWO GRANDSONS IN AN
INCREASINGLY CONFUSED COMMUNITY
WANTING CHANGE.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
AND I SUGGEST YOU SUPPORTED IF
YOU WANT TO SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT
YOURSELF THINKING.
FINANCE NORA COKE STRONGLY
SUPPORT THE SPELL.
I'M RABBI GUARD SILVERSTEIN AND
THE RABBI OF KNESSET ISRAEL
TAURUS CENTER AN ORTHODOX
SYNAGOGUE HRE IN SACRAMENTO AND
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
JOE MICHAEL FOR EQUALITY
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
TINA JACKSON FROM ORANGE COUNTY
CALIFORNIA STRONG SUPPORT THIS
BILL AND I'M A VETERAN AND I AM
A ACTIVE VOTER AND I WILL
REMEMBER THOSE WHO DON'T SUPPORT
THIS BILL.
I ONLY SEE MURPHY FROM SANTA
CRUZ IN SAN JOSE LICENSED
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER TO BE.
AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TIM PERCH POLICY COORDINATOR
ANTI PLEASE TEAR PROTECT CO
SPONSOR PROBABLY IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL.
ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF SALIM
TYNDALL SHOT THREE TIMES IN THE
BACK IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA.
IN A FAMOUS PERSON SUPPOSED.
ANY BANKS IT ANTI POLICE TEAR
PROJECT AND PROUD TO COSPONSOR
ALSO JUSTICE TEAMS NETWORK BOTH
IN SUPPORT OF THE SPELL THANK
YOU.
MANY MESSERSCHMITT I'M A
RESIDENT OF OAKLAND CALIFORNIA
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE FORTY
TWO THOUSAND MEMBERS OF AMNESTY
INTERNATIONAL HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
I AM EMPLOYED BY AMNESTY
INTERNATIONAL AND CALIFORNIA'S
CURRENTLY IN VIOLATION OF
INTERNATIONAL LAW ON HUMAN
RIGHTS RELATED TO POLICE USE OF
FORCE.
THIS LAW WOULD BRING US CLOSER
TO THE REALIZATION OF HUMAN
RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA AND WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
I'M JOHN LINDSAY POLAND THE
COORDINATOR OF THE HEALING
JUSTICE PROGRAM CLIFORNIA JUST
PROGRAM OF THE AMERICAN FRIENDS
SERVICE COMMITTEE.
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE BEING IN A STATE OF
UNFOUNDED FEAR SHOULD NEVER BE
REASON TO MURDER SOMEONE THANK
YOU.
THERE IT A TENDRIL OF FROM
OAKLAND CALIFORNIA STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT OF AB.
NINE THREE ONE GOOD MORNING AIR
CONDITIONED FROM ELLA BAKER
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN A
MEMBER OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
SENTENCING COMMISSION IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL I'M ALSO
HERE ON BEHALF OF HAY SEUSS
DELGADO WHO WAS SHOT NINETY NINE
TIMES BY THE SAN FRANCISCO
POLICE.
PHILLIP WILSON I'M FROM VALLEJO
CALIFORNIA I'M HERE --
WITH CLIP STRIDE I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF ONE OF MY FRIENDS WHO
WAS BROUGHT IN TO ME AT WORK ONE
DAY --
LIFELESS AND IT WASN'T IN.
HE WAS MURDERED AT THE HANDS OF
ALLOW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
THERE WAS AN OFFICER THAT
ACTUALLY STOOD ON THE HOOD OF
THE CAR AND SHOT DOWN INTO THE
VEHICLE.
AND THEY STILL USE THE FACT THAT
THEY FEARED FOR THEIR LIFE AND I
AM.
I WORK IN A HOSPITAL AND WE SAVE
LIVES YOU KNOW TO ME THAT'S WHAT
WE DO THERE.
IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY'RE
HAVING A HEART ATTACK I CAN'T
JUST START INTERVENTIONS RIGHT
THEN I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL A
DOCTOR PUTS AN ORDERS WE HAVE TO
FOLLOW THESE ORDERS TO A T.
BECAUSE THE PRESERVATION OF LIFE
IS IMPORTANT.
IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN MY JOB
I BELIEVE THAT THAT YOU CAN WRAP
US ABOARD THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LILLIAN SANCHEZ I M.
THE LETTUCE CHRISTOFFEL FOR
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AND
RESIDENT OF BERKELEY CALIFORNIA --
I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
THIS BILL PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ALI ROSE LONGTON AND
I'M WITH AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
ANONYMOUS CITY WHEREVER I'M THE
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE CHAIR OF
PACIFICA PART OF CALIFORNIA.
PARTIES ON RECORD AS BEING A IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO
WERE ALSO CALIFORNIA'S POOR
PEOPLE'S PARTY SO.
WHEN WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT?
I'M DAVID REMEMBERS BOARD MEMBER
WITH SACRAMENTO ACT AREA
CONGREGATIONS TOGETHER.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT TO THE PAST
THIS BILL TODAY.
ERIC BUT IT IS A WITH SEIU LOCAL
TWENTY FIFTEEN WE STAND IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
AS SIGNATURE MILLION FROM LAKE
COUNTY AND I AM ALSO AN IHS AS
PROVIDER.
A WITH SEIU LOCAL TWENTY FIFTEEN
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS THAT
YOU PASS DISABILITIES STRONGLY
ASK YOU SAY YES.
BECAUSE I COME FROM A RURAL
COUNTY AND WE'RE HAVING ISSUES
WITH POLICE OFFICERS.
MEETING PEOPLE SO.
A ON THIS PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.
I AM WILLING WILCOXSON.
I'M COME LAKE COUNTY ALSO I'VE
WORKED FOR IHS SAYS HE I SEE YOU.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT EIGHTY NINE
THIRTY ONE ALSO.
AND BEHALF OF MY SON EDDIE
WILSON.
GOOD MORNING THIS I'M SHERRY
WILLIAMS FROM AS YOU YOU TWENTY
FIFTEEN I STRONGLY SUPPORT
PASSED IN A BE.
NINE THIRTY ONE AND I THEN
PULLED OVER ON A TROPIC BY AND
M. THING WITH GUNS PULLED HONEST.
NEVER BEEN A TIME IN JAIL AND
COULD NOT BELIEVE IT IS A DON'T
YOU LIVE LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO
SHOOT US THERE'S POOR WOMEN IN
THE CAR.
AND WE THOUGHT WERE GONE YEARS.
HEART WAS NOT EVEN STOLEN.
SONYA KRANZ FROM SOLANO COUNTY
AS HE AYE YOU.
TWENTY FIFTEEN STRONG SUPPORT OF
AB NINE THIRTY ONE THANK YOU
[inaudible]
MY NAME.
MY MY ADAMA.
BUT BOY DID FIVE DC YOU.
VALERIA MARMITE CHUDAI ANYA HER
SHAKE AT THEM DOOR THINK EDU AT
LEAST EDU.
MY NAME IS MARIO FERNANDEZ AND
LIKE MY OTHER FRIENDS BEFORE ME
SEIU TWENTY FIFTEEN IS IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
ALSO DRAW FROM EUREKA CALIFORNIA
THIS MORNING SO PLEASE DON'T LET
THIS BE IN VAIN.
WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS UP
THERE THAT THESE URBAN COUNTIES
ARE ALSO DEMANDING.
BE RESOLVED THANK YOU.
SERIOUS COURSE I WOULD
SUBCOMMITTEE BE BROKEN IN STRONG
SUPPORT MAYBE.
NINE THIRTY ONE MAJOR MEDINA
WITH ASIAN AMERICANS ADVANCING
JUSTICE CULT FUNNY IN STRONG
SUPPORT.
JIM LIMBURGER ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
OF CALIFORNIA AND ALSO HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE LUTHERAN
OFFICE OF PUBLIC POLICY IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
REBEKAH GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN STRONG
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
TRISTEN BROWN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA FEDERATION OF
TEACHERS ON BEHALF OF THE
HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND MEMBERS
WHO SEE THE TRIAL MODE THAT IS
CAUSED BY SOME OF THE VIOLENCE
HERE.
EVERYDAY WE URGES SUPPORT
POSITION THANK YOU.
KIMBERLY ROSENBERGER ON BEHALF
OF SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND
MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA WITH ASCII
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT THINK YOU.
ANDREW WHEN IT THAT REACHES IN
COALITION AND SECOND STATE PRAGA
REBOUND.
I KNEW BRANDED SMITTEN NAM AND
STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE AS HER
AB.
NINETY ONE OF MY NAMES ARE MONDO
BERASA MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN
CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION.
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT HIS BILL
AND I'M REALLY TIRED OF PEOPLE
OF CUP MEN'S PUSHY MEN OF COLOR
GETTING KILLED AND I THINK IT'S
TIME THAT THIS PRACTICE AND STE.
BOB WAS ARIA FROM THE COUNCIL
AMERICA SOME RELATIONS AND I
STRONG SUPPORT THIS BILL.
BRENT JOSIE BELL WITH THE ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION AND IT'S
TIME FOR CHANGE [inaudible]
I SUPPORT.
HI MY NAME IS KENDRA JACKSON I'M
ALSO HERE WITH THE ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION.
ON PROJECT REBOUNDS ACKERMAN AS
THEY ON THE SOCIAL WORKER ALSO
I'M A MOTHER OF AFRICAN
AMERICANS THAN AN AFRICAN
AMERICAN DAUGHTER ASK YOU TO
PLEASE PASS AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE THINKING.
MY NAME'S COLBY LANDS WHAT
SURVIVED UNPUNISHED IN THE
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WOMEN
PRISONERS I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
ALL OF THEM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
VICTIMS ESPECIALLY WOMEN OF
COLOR KILLED BY POLICE.
HELLO HI MY NAME A SATELLITE TOM
ORGANIZER FOR CCW P. CALIFORNIA
COALITION FOR WOMEN'S PRISONER
AND I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS LIZ CARBAPENEM HERE
WITH PUBLIC HEALTH JUSTICE
COLLECTIVE AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
GOOD MORNING DEREK MORGAN
OAKLAND RESIDENT AND HERE WITH A
BIG SENATE.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL AS
WELL.
MY NAME IS AMBER AKEMI PIE IT
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC
HEALTH JUSTICE COLLECTIVE AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
MY NAME'S AS MONNING IS ON THE
SECOND ACCORDING TO FOR THE ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
MY NAME'S CORPORATE SERGEANT AND
WITH ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION
AND I SUPPORT HIS BILL.
MY NAME IS GYRO I REPRESENT THE
OSCAR GRANT COMMITTEE AGAINST
POLICE BRUTALITY.
I WAS HERE IN THIS CHAMBER.
GUESTS MIGHT'VE BEEN THREE YEARS
AGO.
IT WILL ALL OF SIX OF US
[inaudible]
ADDRESSING [inaudible]
NOBODY [inaudible]
LOOK NOW.
WE HAVE BEEN NOT.
WE SHALL BE ALL.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
A COME ON OUR POLITICAL DIRECTOR
WITH PEOPLE CALIFORNIA CO
SPONSOR IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
BILL.
ROY GRABBED GRIMES OUT.
FOR PRESIDENT SECOND CITY SCHOOL
BOARDS FORM PRESIDENT SECOND
COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.
AND A FORMER MEMBER OF A
CALIFORNIA PEACH STATE PTA I
WANT TO THANK KRISTIN BROWN --
FOR FOR A. F. T. SUPPORTING THIS
BILL BECAUSE TEACHERS THE
SUSPENSIONS AND WE TALK ABOUT
SCHOOLS --
TO PRISON PIPELINE --
WE SHOULD SEE MORE EDUCATORS
HERE TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF
THIS BILL AND I DON'T SEE CTA.
ROY GRAHAM SUPPORTED BILL.
MY NAME IS OLIVER MARROW ON WITH
ANTI RECEIVED ISN'T COALITION AS
SACRAMENTO REINVESTMENT
COALITION AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS DANIEL
HARRIMAN WITH THE ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
HE DOESN'T NEED A SALVO AND I AM
A MEMBER OF THE CTA AND I WORK
FOR THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION AND A MEMBER.
OF SEIU AND I ALSO SUPPORT THE
BILL.
HI MY NAME'S ELIZABETH ANSWERED
AT MOSTLY I'M A MEMBER OF THE
CITY OF DAVIS HUMAN RELATIONS
COMMISSION AND THE GOAL COUNTY
COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY
BOARD AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT A.
B. NINE THIRTY ONE THINK YOU --
MY NAME IS AWESOME ROSALIE AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS THAT IS OF FLORIDA'S
ACTING DIRECTOR WAS SACRAMENTO
ACT PART OF PEOPLE CALIFORNIA
STRONG SUPPORT THIS BILL ENERGY
TO DO.
TO HELLO MY NAME IS ALICE BAVOR
BANKS.
I'M THE PROUD PASTOR OF
CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP MINISTRY
CHURCH IN DEL PASSED THE HIGH.
I AM ALSO THAT FAITH BASED
REPRESENTED BY THE END DOUBLE
ACP AND BAY PACK I REALLY URGE
YOU. TO LOOK AT THIS MY FATHER
WAS MURDERED FIFTY SOME YEARS
AGO IT HASN'T CHANGED SO I
ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
THE MORNING MY NAME IS LAURA
SCHRADER AND I AM A CARE
PROVIDER BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY A
MOTHER.
I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO PLEASE
PASS THIS BILL [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
OUR MONEY MUSLIM CHO PUNYA AND
I'M A STUDENT LUTHER BURBANK
ENOUGH SUPPORT A. B.. NINE
THIRTY ONE GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS MY NAME
SALINAS SANTA MARIA ON BEHALF OF
THE BUILDING THE CALIFORNIA
DREAM LANCE WE SUPPORT A. B..
NINE THIRTY ONE GOOD MORNING MY
NAME I SIR THANK YOU YOU I'M
GONNA I'M A GRAD STUDENTUC
BERKELEY AND I'VE SEEN WAY TOO
MANY CASES OF SUCCESSFUL DE
ESCALATION.
THAT THE KILLINGS ON THE NEWS
MAKE NO SENSE I STAND IN SUPPORT
OF AB NINE THIRTY ONE THANK YOU.
MELONES TIMBERWOLVES ARE GAS OUT
BY THE POLICE ELLIE PT.
HOW STRONG SUPPORT HIS BILL HOPE
YA SUPPORT THIS BILL?
CARLOS MONTES PONCE WITH
SACRAMENTO ACT I'M HERE IN
SUPPORT OF BABY.
ARE NINE THREE WHEN ALSO WILL
POP PART OF PEOPLE CALIFORNIA.
I MY NAME IS EARL BAKER TAURUS
BROTHER OF HIS WHO FOLLOWED
FULLER DOWN THE SHAUN NINETY
NINE TIMES BY SFPD.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT HIS BILL
THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS NORMA RESUME AS
SEVEN NATIVE ALSO A MOTHER I
PLEASE URGE YOU GUYS HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGES.
MOVING FORWARD AND I URGE YOU TO
PLEASE PASS THIS BILL.
MY NAME'S ELI AND I'M FROM SAN
FRANCISCO I'M TWELVE YEARS OLD
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PASS.
MY NAME IS ALEXIS MATHIS AND I'M
A RESIDENT OF SACRAMENTO AND I
SUPPORT AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE GOOD MORNING TO
JANET HIS HONOR GETS WITH
BUILDING THE CALIFORNIA JIM
ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT OF AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE NUMBER AS WELL
OZONE ARE GOING UP BUT MIDDLEMAN.
LOSE THE MITCHELL MONNING ABOUT
THE REMOTE ON OF OR DISSIDENTS
AT THAT HOUR OF THE DAY.
AND THOUGH IT IS SAYS.
ROBERT MORE A POINT AT THIS TIME
THE OF HIS UPPER.
MY NAME IS STILL A PUT UP PAT
WHO WAS KILLED BY THE SFPD ON
APRIL SEVENTH.
TWENTY SIXTEEN AND I'M HERE TO
URGE YOU TO PASS THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS ARE GONNA COME OUT IN
NOT I AM WHICH JUSTICE AN HONOR
FOR RICH GONGORA PAT.
AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF TO SPILL
IN HONOR OF THE FIFTY SIX PEOPLE
SHOP BY US OF BEAUTY ALONE SINCE.
TWENTY ELEVEN TWENTY FOUR OF
THEM KILLED WITH UTTERING
INCLUDING ALEX THE IT THOUGH I
MEAN I MAKE UP AS LOPEZ LOUISE
GOING WHAT ABOUT.
MY IDEA WAS JUST A CO WILLIAMS
AND OTHER FOR THE GOD OF PLEASE
PASS THIS BILL.
I A VICTIM BECAUSE OF WHAT THE
BLACK AND BROWN UNITED SAN
FRANCISCO FLICK GESTURES PIECE
IN THE QUALITY.
MOTHERS ON THE MARK FOR JUSTICE
THOMAS' GOING OFF OF FISCAL COP
WATCHING ONE OF THE FOUNDERS.
AN URGENT URGE YOU GUYS SHOULD
REALLY PASSED HIS BILL AB NINE
THIRTY ONE IS GREATLY NEEDED ALL
OVER CALIFORNIA.
A PIECE OF VERY ABUSIVE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS ALL OVER
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
PROP THE MORNING MY NAME'S
EMILIO WITH YOU JUSTICE
COALITION I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE FAMILY OF JONATHAN QUICK US.
WHO WAS KILLED BY SHARES AND
THEN WHEN CALIFORNIA HE WAS SHOT
IN THE FRONT?
AND THE BACK STUDENT TURNED OVER
WHEN HE WAS ON THE GROUND AND
SHOT IN FRONT AND KILLED.
PLEASE PASS A. B. NINE THIRTY
ONE THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS MATTARELLA AS
I'M WITH COMMUNITIES UNITED FOR
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IN OAKLAND
CALIFORNIA.
I APPLAUD CO SPONSOR OF THIS
BILL AND ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU TO ALL THE FAMILIES
THAT ARE HERE.
I ADMIRE YOUR STRENGTH AND WE
HONOR YOU.
CURRICULA PULLING OUT AND
SUPPORT OF ALL HUMANS WHO
BELIEVE THAT LIFE IS NOT
EXPENDABLE.
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER VOTE ON A
AYE SEED MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF
DONOR PHONE SO I WOULD LIKE YOU
TO PAY ATTENTION --
I WILL Y. J. C. ALLESTREE POETS
AND I'M HERE PASS THIS BILL
THANK YOU [inaudible]
CRITICS.
I'M JORDAN BARBER WITH WHY JC
STRONG SUPPORT.
ARE MY NAME IS TONY I'M WAS WHY
JC AND I'M ALSO OF A VICTIM OF A
POLICE BATTALION FORCE --
I GUESS BECAUSE YEAH I'MIS AND
I WOULD AB.
NINETY ONE HI VICKI BOYD I'M
WITH COOPER BLACK WOMEN BLACK
WOMEN ORGANIZED FOR POLITICAL
ACTION AND ALSO WITH BAY PACK
AND WEARING HIGH SUPPORT.
OF A AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE I EL GILLIAN
BORROWDALE CONCERNED CITIZEN
FROM SACRAMENTO UP PLEASE
SUPPORT THIS BILL AND HERE WITH
THE ACLU.
HELLO MY NAME IS ALICIA LIPMAN
I'M I'M A LIFELONG CALIFORNIA
RESIDENT AND A PASSIONATE VOTER
AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF AB
NINE THIRTY ONE BECAUSE I CAN'T
IMAGINE.
WHAT IT'S LIKE?
FEAR THAT THOSE WHOSE JOB IT IS
TO PROTECT YOU.
MIGHT ACTUALLY KILL YOU BECAUSE
OF THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.
PLEASE SUPPORT THIS BILL.
BOB GRAHAM MOVE ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA SPENDING CHAMBERS OF
COMMERCE AND THE CALIFORNIA
BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
THANK YOU DOCTOR WEBER FOR
MAGNIFICENT BILL.
THIS IS AN EPIDEMIC.
I GIVE THIS TESTIMONY OR PUBLIC
COMMENT AN HONOR MY FATHER WAS A
PEACE OFFICER.
WHOSE PRIDED HIMSELF NEVER
FIRING THE SIDE ARM.
THE ETHICAL LISTEN IS THE
PHILOSOPHY IS THE WAY WE NEED TO
TRAIN OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU.
GEORGE RYAN SACRAMENTO LET
[inaudible]
THAT.
BOB STRONG SUPPORT.
EILEEN SCHNITGER CITIZEN OF
SACRAMENTO COUNTY WHERE.
ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE KILLING
OUR ON AM CITIZENS ARE MENTALLY
ILL CITIZENS.
IN SUPPORT OF NINE THIRTY ONE
THANK YOU DOCTOR WEBER.
GOOD MORNING TEN LINA UP ON
BEHALF KIRCH CAMPAIGN ONE POINT
FOUR MILLION MEMBERS IN STRONG
SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING MARC THOUGH PART
WITH POLICY LINK IN THE ALLIANCE
FOR BOYS AND MEN OF COLOR IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
PROFESSOR ALL THE WITNESSES IN
SPORTS HOME IS WHERE BRAVE AND
SHOULD HAVE THEIR WITNESSES.
I'M.
WELL IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT
YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE AMENDMENT
SO PERHAPS YOU COULD MENTION
BEFORE I BRING UP THE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION IMPAIRMENTS THAT --
I MENTIONED IN THE OPENING THOSE
OF YOU.
THE TABLE BECAUSE THE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION WILL BE COMING TO
THE TABLE.
OKAY GO AHEAD I MENTIONED IN THE
OPENING THAT WE ACCEPTED THE
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS I MADE AN
ASSUMPTION THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE
THEM BUT IF NOT --
THE FIRST AMENDMENT WAS ONE TO
REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT
OFFICES MUST FORESEE THAT
CONDUCT WOULD CREATE A
LIKELIHOOD OF DEATH OR GREAT
BODILY INJURY IN ORDER FOR THEM
TO CONTINUE TO HAVE SPECIFIED
DIFFERENCES OF HOMICIDE.
AND THAT IS --
UNDER SECTION ONE OF THOSE
NUMBER TWO OH SET BE --
IT'S TAKEN FROM THERE SO WE'VE
WHICH STRUCK THAT OUT --
THAT'S WHERE AN OFFICER OF
ORDINARY PRUDENCE WOULD HAVE
FORESEEN THAT THE KIND THAT
WOULD CREATE A LIKELIHOOD OF
DEATH.
OF OUR GREAT BODILY HARM HARM
WE'VE REMOVED THAT REQUIREMENT.
OF THE OTHER ONE IS THAT --
WE'VE WE WOULD TURN THE LANGUAGE
THAT THE BILL DELETED THAT
ALLOWS OFFICES TO STAND THEIR
GROUND AND STILL MAINTAIN A
RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE CLAIM
AGAINST HOMICIDE.
INSTEAD WE AT LANGUAGE THAT SAYS
THAT THEY MUST ATTEMPT TO USE
THE ESCALATION TECHNIQUES AND
THOSE SITUATIONS --
AND THAT IS FOUND IN THE SECTION
TWO OF NUMBER SEE --
WE SPECIFY.
IF AN OFFICER ACTED PROPERLY
WHEN FORT WHEN USING FORCE
SHOULD INCLUDE ALL FACTS
ACTUALLY KNOWN TO THE OFFICERS
RATHER THAN THOSE WOULD BE
REASONABLY KNOWN SO THAT WE ONE
OF THE OLD WHAT THEY DON'T
WRESTLE AND THINKING OF WHAT WE
THINK IS REASONABLY.
NO TO THEM A AND WE CLARIFY THAT
I REFERENCES TO A REASONABLE
AN OBJECTIVELY REASONABLE PEACE
OFFICER AND SO THAT HAS BEEN
ADDED.
UNDERNEATH NUMBER E. AYE SO MOST
WE GOT A COPY OF THE A CHANGES
OKAY FINE SUCH ONE PUT THOSE
INTO THE RECORD THANK OU VERY
MUCH CA.
CREATE THAT WHO EVER AND BEFORE
WE START WITH THE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION ONE EXPRESS MY
APPRECIATION TO EVERYONE IN THE
HEARING ROOM.
FOR YOUR CONDUCT SO FAR HAS BEEN --
EXCELLENT AND IF YOU COULD --
CONTINUE THAT WITH EITHER THIS
OR HOWEVER OTHER MOTIONS YOU
WANT TO MAKE TO EXPRESS YOUR
OPINIONS WOULD BE GREAT SO THAT-WE COULD HAVE.
THEWITNESSES --
SPEAK AND HAVE THE MEMBERS AND
THE DYESS BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM
AND THEN ENGAGE IN SOME
DISCUSSION RIGHT APPRECIATED AND
THANK YOU WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION YOU MAY BEGIN.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS RAINY PERRY
WITH THEIR REQUEST SUCH HITS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION HIGH PATROL PORAC.
TIM CISCO POLICE OFFICERS
CESSATION FINISHER SIMPLY.
BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATIONS HAMPER
DINO --
TOGETHER REPRESENTING
APPROXIMATELY NINETY THOUSAND OF
THE ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND
PEACE OFFICERS IN CALIFORNIA.
AS AMENDED THE BILL CONTINUES TO
CREATE A NECESSARY REQUIREMENT
THAT IS MUCH HIGHER THAN
REASONABLE.
ALSO THE REQUIREMENT OF NO
REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE IS
UNACCEPTABLE.
THE CRIMINAL LIABILITY EXPOSURE
OF THIS ASPECT OF THE BILL
CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.
HOWEVER MORE IMPORTANTLY THE
DANGER TO OFFICERS IN THE PUBLIC
AROUND CONSTABLE BY THE SPELL.
THE NEW AMENDMENTS.
DISTRACTING THE REQUIREMENT THAT
A USE OF FORCE BE NECESSARY THE
NECESSARY REQUIREMENT IS A
RADICAL DEPARTURE FROM CRIMINAL
CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
THAT EFFECTIVELY IF REVERSED.
IT'S THE CALCULUS FOR EVALUATING
AND OFFICERS USE OF FORCE.
INSTEAD OF A FLOOR BEAM LAWFUL
IF IT WAS REASONABLE.
IT IS NOW UNLAWFUL FOR
UNNECESSARY.
IF THERE ARE ANY REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVES.
AB NINE THIRTY ONE IS LIMITING
THE OFFICERS RANGE OF OPTIONS SO
THAT DEADLY FORCE.
MAY ONLY BE EMPLOYED IF THERE IS
NO OTHER OPTION.
BUT AS JUDGED BY WHOM THE
SPONSORS WILL LIKELY ASSERT
DEADLY FORCE IS NEVER NECESSARY.
I E. THE LANGUAGE IN A BILL
RELATING A TACTICAL
REPOSITIONING.
IN MOST USE SUPPORTS SITUATIONS
THERE ARE A RANGE OF REASONABLE
OPTIONS THAT A REASONABLE
OFFICER COULD USE.
UNDER THE NEW STANDARD AN
OFFICER CANNOT USE DEADLY FORCE
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE NECESSARY.
IS DEFINED AS THE ABSENCE OF ANY
OTHER REASONABLE OPTION.
IN ADDITION THERE IS A SERIOUS
CONTRADICTION IN SUBSECTION CD
WHICH STATES HAD AN OFICER NEED
NOT RETREAT OR DESIST FOR HIS OR
HER EFFORTS.
YET THE DEFINITION OF REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVES IN THE BILL
INCLUDES TACTICAL REPOSITIONING
A EUPHEMISM FOR RETREAT.
AND THAT RETREAT.
WOULD BE ABLE TO BE USED BY THE
DEFENSE BAR AND ALMOST EVERY
SINGLE CASE WHERE THEY WOULD SAY
YOU COULD HAVE RETREATED.
BOTTOM LINE.
WHILE THE REASONABLE TORNADOES
ARE SIMILAR TO THE FACTORS
CONSIDERED UNDER CURRENT.
REASONABLE OFFERS STANDARDS
OFFICER STANDARDS.
THE PROBLEM IS THE NECESSARY
REQUIREMENTS.
IF SOMEONE CAN LATER IDENTIFY
ANY ALTERNATIVE THE OFFICER
SHOULD HAVE USED THEN THE
OFFICERS ACTIONS ARE NOW
UNLAWFUL UNDER THIS BILL.
GIVEN THE SCIENCE BEHIND
PERCEPTION REACTION TIMES
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WAITING UNTIL ALL OTHER OPTIONS
ARE EXHAUSTED WILL BE DEADLY FOR
OFFICERS AND CITIZEN VICTIMS.
WE ASK THAT YOU NOT A SUPPORT
THIS BILL THAT WE CONTINUE TO
SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS TRAINING
ISSUES DE ESCALATION OF FORCE.
AND OTHER TRAINING ISSUES THAT
WILL HELP OFFICERS THROUGHOUT
THE STATE [inaudible]
DON.
DO A BETTER JOB THAN THEY'RE
DOING NOW --
BUT CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER
WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS WITH
ELECTED LEADERS AND AND WORK
TOWARDS --
IT ADDITIONAL TRAINING TO HELP
OFFICERS OUT ON THE STREET.
BUT DO NOT.
RE DOT I LIMIT THEIR THEIR
RESPONSE. TWO DANGERS IT THEY
ARE TRAINED AND FEEL A DANGER TO
THEMSELVES OR OTHERS AROUND THEM
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
NEXT WITNESS THANK YOU MY NAME
IS DAVID MUST STAGNATE.
I'M A LAWYER HERE IN TOWN I'VE
BEEN PRACTICING LAW FOR FORTY
FIVE YEARS.
I'M ALSO A HUSBAND A FATHER
AFFORD A GRANDFATHER A FOURTEEN
I I'M AN EXPERT IN FOR SCIENCE
[inaudible]
I HAVE.
OF I UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT THE NEEDS OF PUBLIC
SAFETY I UNDERSTAND.
WHAT?
IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE PROPER
POLICING NOT ONLY IN THE
GOVERNMENTAL CONTEXT BUT IN THE
PRIVATE INDUSTRY CONTEXT.
I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION A STATEWIDE
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING.
THOUSANDS OF POLICE MANAGERS.
THOSE POLICE MANAGERS ARE GOING
TO BE CONFRONTED WITH.
ARE ENFORCING A LAW WHICH IS ON
ITS FACE UNCONSTITUTIONAL I
WOULD LIKE TO READ FROM YOU TO
YOU FROM THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION.
SECTION ONE ARTICLE.
ONE ALL PEOPLE ARE BY NATURE
FREE AND INDEPENDENT AND HAVE
INALIENABLE RIGHTS.
AMONG THOSE ARE ENJOYING AND
DEFENDING LIFE.
AND LIBERTY ACQUIRING POSSESSING
AND PROTECTING PROPERTY.
AND PURSUING AND OBTAINING
SAFETY HAPPINESS AND PRIVACY.
THAT SETS FORTH THE FOUNDATION
OF ONCE INALIENABLE RIGHT AND
THIS IS THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION. TO DEFEND ONESELF
TO EXERCISE THE RIGHT OF SELF
DEFENSE.
THE UNITED STATES [inaudible]
CONSTITUTION MIRRORS.
THE SAME PROTECTIONS TO EVERY
INDIVIDUAL OF EVERY WALK OF LIFE
OF EVERY BACKGROUND.
THESE ISSUES HAVE COME BEFORE
THE COURTS BEFORE.
IN THE CASE OF THE COUNTY OF LOS
ANGELES VERSES MANDOS.
A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE.
ON PROVOCATION WAS DECIDED AND
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
RULED IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL. TO
ENHANCE OR DIMINISH I SHOULD SAY.
THE ABILITY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS THAT TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES BASED UPON PREDICATE
OTHER.
ACTS WE ALSO HAVE [inaudible]
IN CALIFORNIA.
VERY HIGHLY TRAINED LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND
MANAGERS.
THIS IS A SUBJECT WHICH BY FAR
AWAY MORE APPROPRIATELY SHOULD
BE ADDRESSED AT THE LOCAL AGENCY
LEVELS.
THROUGH MANAGEMENT'S MANAGEMENT.
TRAINING AND POLICIES RATHER
THAN STRIPPING UP ENTIRE CLASS
OF CITIZEN OF THEIR INALIENABLE
RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE TO THE
RIGHT ONCE YOU OUT IF NECESSARY
AND NO REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.
IT BECOMES A HINDSIGHT.
SECOND GUESSING GAME THAT PUTS
NOT ONLY THE OFFICERS AT DANGER.
BUT PUTS THE PUBLIC AT DANGER AS
WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I
READ THE COMMITTEES PUBLIC
POLICY STATEMENT IT WAS THOROUGH.
IT SET FORTH THE ISSUES BOTH PRO
AND CON.
I AGREE WITH THE OPPOSITION
ISSUES IN THEIR AND SIMPLY
[inaudible]
STATED.
THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
THE CRIMINAL STATUTES AND
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION WHICH
PROTECTS THE INALIENABLE RIGHT
OF EVERY CITIZEN TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES OUGHT NOT BE STRIPPED.
OF LAW ENFORCEMENT JUST BECAUSE
THEY'VE CHOSE TO SERVE AND
PROTECT [inaudible]
THE PUBLIC.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE FROM ALL WALKS
OF LIFE AND DESERVE THE SAME
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.
THAT WE ALL HAVE --
WE ALSO HAVE IN CALIFORNIA.
PEOPLE VERSUS MCDONALD WHICH
RECOGNIZED AS A RIGHT.
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION TO
PROTECT ONE'S OWN LIFE WE HAVE
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES VERSUS
MENDEZ.
DECIDED IN.
TWENTY SEVENTEEN WHICH SAYS YOU
CANNOT DILUTE THE RIGHT TO
PROTECT ONE'S LIFE.
ON BEHALF OF CBO WAY WE STAND IN
OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED
LEGISLATION.
NEXT WITNESS MORNING MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS CORSO'S ALONG WE HAVE A
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL.
A THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL
SPEAKS TO NECESSITY GIVEN
TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THE WAY THAT LANGUAGE IS
DRAFTED JUST TO SPEAK TO A
STATEMENT MADE BY A BY A
PROPONENT WITNESSED --
THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT THE
LANGUAGE OF TOTALITY INCLUDES OR
IS THE FACTS ONLY THE FACTS
KNOWN TO THE OFFICER THE FACTS
IN THE OFFICER.
THE LANGUAGE ACTUALLY SAYS IT
INCLUDES FACTS KNOWN AS THE
OFFICER IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO
FACTS KNOWN TO THE OFFICER.
AND AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT.
THE FACTS NOT KNOWN TO AN
OFFICER INCLUDING WHETHER OR NOT
A GUN IS UNLOADED AND WHEN IT IS
POINTED AT OFFICER.
COULD BE CONSIDERED AND WOULD
MAKE A NECESSITY ANALYSIS VERY
DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE.
WE THINK THIS BILL DISCOURAGES
PROACTIVE POLICING BY MAKING
OFFICERS FEAR THE REPERCUSSIONS
OF SPLIT SECOND DECISIONS.
BUT IF NOTHING ELSE ASIDE FROM
THE PROPRIETY OF THE POLICIES A
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WILL
HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR POLICIES
THAT HAVE TO TRAIN TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF OFFICERS.
THIS CANNOT HAPPEN [inaudible]
WHO WAS [inaudible]
THE IRRESPECTIVE OF THE
PROPRIETY OF SUCH A QUESTION.
THAT TAKES TIME THE CANNOT
HAPPEN OVERNIGHT THE BILL MAKES
NO ACCOMMODATION FOR THE REALITY
THAT THIS TRAINING WOULD HAVE TO
TAKE PLACE --
WE AS A MATTER OF COURSE ASKING
DEMAND OFFICERS TO RUN TOWARD
DANGER AND SACRIFICE THEIR
SAFETY.
WE FEEL IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO DO
SO WITH AN OPEN QUESTION WAS BY
THIS BILL --
AS TO WHETHER AFTER A FACT
ANALYSIS WILL VINDICATE THEIR
ACTIONS FOR THOSE REASONS WE ASK
FOR AN OPEN.
X. WITNESS THANKS MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS JONATHAN FELT OF THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION WILL BE BRIEF AND
NOT REPETITIVE --
ONE MAKE IT CLEAR FROM THE
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION THAT
ANY TIME THERE'S A LOSS OF LIFE
IT'S TRAGIC.
WE'RE WILLING TO BE PART OF A
DIALOGUE AROUND USE OF FORCE AND
WORK COOPERATIVELY TO REDUCE THE
NUMBERS OF OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTINGS IN THE STATE.
RIGHT NOW DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE
STATE ARE WORKING TO FIND
SOLUTIONS ACTIVELY THROUGH
EDUCATION TRAINING POLICIES
THROUGH OUTREACH [inaudible]
I'D SOP.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE
UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS SHIFTED OVER THE
LAST SEVEN EIGHT NINE YEARS.
HOW MUCH WE'VE LOOKED INWARD? TO
FIND OUT HOW WE CAN DO BETTER
HOW WE CAN REACH THESE
COMMUNITIES.
AND BE COMMUNITY POLICE AND WE
WANT TO BE.
AND ARE AND SHOULD BE.
HOWEVER NINE THIRTY ONE IS A
DANGEROUS PROPOSAL.
WHAT FAILED TO UNDERSTAND IS
THAT THE CURRENT LGAL STANDARD
IS MEANT TO LOOK AT A SPLIT
SECOND DECISION BY AN OFFICER?
AS A SUPREME COURT IS UNDERSTOOD
IN DEFINING THE CURRENT LEGAL
STANDARD THAT.
THERE HAS TO BE AN ALLOWANCE FOR
THE FACT THAT POLICE OFFICERS
ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SPLIT
SECOND JUDGMENTS IN
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE TENSE.
AND CERTAIN AND RAPIDLY EVOLVING
ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF FORCE THAT
IS NECESSARY.
IN A PARTICULAR SITUATION.
ANYTHING ABOVE THAT PUTS OUR
OFFICERS IN AN UNTENABLE
POSITION AND FOR THAT REASON WE
ARE POST.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
LIEUTENANT SHOW LISA WILLIAMS.
ON BEHALF OF SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
I DON'T NEED TO ECHO OF WHAT MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID WE ARE IN
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL.
AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHO WAS NOT
ABLE TO ATTEND THEIR ALSO IN
OPPOSITION.
AND IF I COULD JUST GIVE A
LITTLE BACKGROUND I'VE BEEN A A
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR
TWENTY FOUR YEARS.
I'VE A WORK THAT THE SCHOOLS I
WAS THAT --
ATTACK OFFICER AT OUR ACADEMY
TEACHING OFFICERS HOW TO DE
ESCALATE SO --
PURCHASE.
PARTISAN SHOWS THAT I'M HERE IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION CAN BE AT THE MIKE.
NOT IN CHEN MEMBERS MATTHEW
CYBERLINK BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION FOR LOS ANGELES
DEPUTY SHERIFF'S THE LOS ANGELES
POLICE PROTECTIVE LEAGUE.
HAVE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO REFLECT
THE OPPOSITION OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATEWIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT
ASSOCIATION.
THE ASSOCIATION OF ORANGE COUNTY
DEPUTY SHERIFFS THE SECOND A
DEPUTY SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION THE
LONG BEACH POLICE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE FRATERNAL
ORDER OF POLICE ALL OF WHOM ARE
ALSO OPPOSED MAKING.
BRANDON UP ON BEHALF OF LOS
ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF XIN
MCDONNELL IN OPPOSITION.
JOHN LEVEL ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS THE
CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION.
AND THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY --
PROFESSIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION ALL IN OPPOSITION.
DANIEL SANCHEZ ON BEHALF OF THE
CHEAPER CREATION OFFICERS OF
CALIFORNIA REGRETTABLY IN
OPPOSITION BUT I LOOK FOR TO
CONTINUE IN THE VERY PRODUCTIVE
DISCUSSIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING
WITH DOCTOR WEBER'S OFFICE THANK
YOU.
REMAIN CHAIR RYAN SHERMAN WITH
THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN OPPOSITION.
ROXANNE BACK MUHAMMAD ON BEHALF
OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT MANAGERS
ASSOCIATION OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY
IN OPPOSITION.
ART ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
LORD SEEN --
NINE TO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ON THE DICE --
SENATOR WIENER SENATOR MITCHELL.
AND SENATOR SOUNDS [inaudible]
GOOD.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF A MAN
CHAIR --
FIRST I WANNA THANK THE AUTHOR
OF FOR BRINGING --
THIS IMPORTANT BILL.
FORWARD AYE NOTES IT'S OBVIOUS
USES A YOU KNOW IT IT IS A IT
CHALLENGING ISSUE AND SO MANY --
LEVELS --
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK UMPIRE
COMMITTEE --
THE CHAIR AND ALSO PARTICULARLY
COMMITTEE STAFFER I KNOW WORKING
EXTREMELY HARD --
WITH -- THE
AUTHOR WITH THE SPONSORS OUGHT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BILL IS
AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE DONE AND IS
DOING EXACTLY WHAT IT'S INTENDED
TO DO.
ON THE ANA IN A SENSE THIS BILL
IN SOME WAYS IT OR THE ISSUE IS.
IT'S HARD BUT IT'S NOT VERY HARD --
IT'S NOT VERY HARD.
IN THE SENSE THAT WE WE NEED TO
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OF
SHOOTINGS PERIOD.
OR TOO MANY SHOOTINGS HAPPENING
AND AND I'M WE YOU KNOW
THE IT IT IS TIME TO REEVALUATE --
THE STANDARD --
FOR USE OF AND CALIFORNIA BUT
CHALLENGING PART OF COURSE IS
GETTING IT RIGHT ARE YOU WANT
THE BILL.
TO YOU MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS
KEEPING ALL COMMUNITY SAFE.
KEEPING POLICE OFFICERS SAFE I
AM NOT IS THAT NEEDLE THAT NEEDS
TO BE.
A THREAT IT --
I I COME AT THIS IS SOMEONE WHO --
HAS WORKED WITH THE POLICE FOR
MANY MANY YEARS AS A COMMUNITY
ACTIVIST AS A NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AS A
MEMBER OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOW AS
A SENATOR.
LARA AND I I KNOW THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT
JOB ON SO MANY LEVELS WE EXPECT
OUR POLICE OFFICERS --
TWO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE TO A WE
MORE MORE POLICE OFFICERS ARM
ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF
DEALING WITH A MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS --
WITH THE DRUG ADDICTION CRISIS
BECAUSE WE'VE FAILED AS A
SOCIETY OUGHT --
TO HANDLE THESE ISSUES IN A
HEALTH CARE WAY SO WE'VE
EFFECTIVELY CRIMINALIZED --
VIEWS ARE PROBLEMS --
AND WE EXPECT OUR POLICE
OFFICERS JUST HANDLE IT IS A
VERY VERY HARD JOB --
I THINK THAT THIS --
ARGUED THIS BILL I'M
PARTICULARLY AS AMENDED DOES
THREAD THE NEEDLE AND I SUPPORT%
IT -- GOOD
IT -- YOU
KNOW I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS
OF THE OPPOSITION AND I KNOW
THERE WILL BE CONTINUING
DISCUSSIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THIS REALLY.
AYE GETS IT RIGHT --
BY I THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR
WITH THE AMENDMENTS TO I THINK A
MAKES TO ME WHEN I READ THIS
CLEAR THAT --
OF COURSE IT'S WHAT IS KNOWN I
AT THE TIME THISSOMETHING THAT
THE OFFICER COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN
ABOUT -- GOT
YOU KNOW DOT DOT IS NOT PART OF
THE STANDARD I THINK THAT THE
DRAFTING OF THE BILL --
WITH RESPECT WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT TO BE OPPOSITION --
I THINK DOES NOT GET IT RIGHT --
THE BILL --
EMPHASIZE IS --
ALTERNATIVES TO USE OF LETHAL
FORCE AND DE ESCALATION --
SCOTT AND I I THINK EVERYONE
AGREES THAT WE THAT WE DE
ESCALATION IS INCREDIBLY.
ARE IMPORTANT AND WE I DON'T
SERVICES GOING ELSEWHERE
INCREASINGLY EMPHASIZED TRAINING
ON DE ESCALATION AND I
CONSIDERING --
ALTERNATIVES UNDERSTANDING THAT
THINGS MOVE VERY VERY FAST AND I
DON'T THINK ANYONE IS --
EXPECTING OFFICER TO GO SIT DOWN
AND DO SOME DEEP ANALYSIS OF YOU
KNOW IN THE NEXT POINT TWO
SECONDS --
IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE --
BUT YOU KNOW WITH THE WITH CLEAR
POLICIES --
WITH CLEAR LAW WITH CREW
TRAINING --
I THINK THAT WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS
DE ESCALATION CONSIDERING
ALTERNATIVES AGAIN WITH THE GOAL
OF REDUCING THE NUMBER OF
SHOOTINGS US I KNOW THERE WILL
BE CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS ARE
BUT I I AM WILL BE VOTING IN
FAVOR.
THE NIGHT --
THIRTY ONE IF ONLY I I MAY NEED
TO RUN TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE SO
I'M NOT HERE FOR THE VOTE ALL
ALL OUT ON LATER THANK YOU
[inaudible]
SENATOR MITCHELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR --
HAPPY JUNETEENTH DUCKED WHEREVER.
HOW IRONIC IT IS THAT WE'RE
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ON ON
THAT HISTORIC DAY --
UNIT WHAT WORDS ARE VERY
POWERFUL --
AND AS I READ ON THE BILL
ANALYSES THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION I'M LOOKING VERY
CAREFULLY AT THE WAY PEOPLE
PHRASE.
FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON THE
BILL -- THEN
I LISTEN TO TESTIMONY VERY
CAREFULLY ALSO DOCTOR WEBER.
DO YOU ASSERT THAT DEADLY FORCE
IS NEVER APPROPRIATE NO THAN
FACT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN AWAY THE
OPPORTUNITY THE THE OPTION OF
DEADLY FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED WHEN
IT SHOULD OCCUR.
THANK YOU WHEN THE BILL WAS
DRAFTED BY LEDGE COUNCIL WAS
THERE ANY CONCERN EXPRESSED BY
LEDGE COUNCIL AROUND THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY.
OF THE LANGUAGE IN AB NINE THREE
ONE NO LET'S COUNSELORS NOT TO
EXPRESS THAT TO ANY OF US EVER
YEAH.
THANK YOU.
WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THE
COMMENTS COMMENTS MADE BUTTON
MAINLY AS I READ THE LETTERS AND
ARGUMENTS OF OPPOSITION.
TOM IN LOOKING AT THE LETTER
PROVIDED TO US PROVIDED --
TO US BY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.
IT STATES THAT THE BILL WILL
CREATE A LARGER SCALE ISSUE
WHERE CRIMINALS ARE NO LONGER.
AFTER COMMITTING THEIR CRIMES.
INCREASING THE DANGER TO OTHER
CITIZENS IN THE AREA.
ON I'M I'VE HEARD THERE WAS A
REPRESENTED FROM THAT
ORGANIZATION --
THROUGH THE CHAIR IF THEY COULD
COME FORWARD BECAUSE I'D LIKE.
FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THEIR
COMMENTS.
THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.
WHO ARE STILL?
OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY.
OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY YET THIRD
LETTERHEAD THAT SAY THAT BUT I'M
ASSUMING THIS IS YOUR LETTER.
BUT IT'S TODD PIECE IN THE
PRESIDENT.
SO --
DIVISIONS HANA USUALLY WOULD BE
ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS AND SO
HE'S NOT HERE THE MOMENT SO I'M
JUST HERE DOES [inaudible]
SIMPLY.
I VOCALIZED OUR OPPOSITION.
SO ARE YOU UP IN A POSITION TO
ANSWER A QUESTION THAT'S LISTED
IN THE LETTER NOW.
OKAY THINK YOU.
YOU.
DON'T HAVE THE FORCE AND I
RESULT I AM JUST I HAVE TO KIND
OF REGROUP I'VE JUST NEVER
EXPERIENCE THAT CAN --
PLUMBING TO SAY MY QUESTION FOR
THE RECORD AND MAYBE AT SOME
POINT SOMEONE IS CAN ANSWER FOR
ME.
I'M.
THE LETTER STATES THAT --
CRIMINALS WILL NO LONGER BE
CAUGHT AFTER COMMITTING THEIR
CRIMES.
AND SO MY QUESTION REALLY WAS TO
THIS ORGANIZATION IF THEY WERE
SUGGESTING THAT AN EFFORT TO
ATTY SKILL SET BY DE ESCALATION
OR PERHAPS IMPLICIT BIAS
TRAINING --
ALSO WOULD --
CONTINUED TO CREATE AN
OPPORTUNITY WHERE CRIMES WOULD
BE COMMITTED AND THE ENTIRE.
SOCIETY WOULD BE AT RISK ALL
MOVEON OF THE ARGUMENT IN THE
ANALYSIS FROM THE POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION OF MR FELDMAN.
YOU ALL STATE I APPRECIATE THAT
YOU MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ANY TIME
THERE'S A LOSS OF LIFE IS TRAGIC.
AND THAT QUOTE YOU WERE WILLING
TO WORK ON AND BE PART OF THIS
DIALOGUE AROUND USE OF FORCE AND
WORK COOPERATIVELY TO FIND
SOLUTIONS.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT PROPOSALS
EITHER USE SPONSORED OR
SUPPORTED --
IN THAT VEIN ALL YOU TALKED
ABOUT ALSO YEAR ABOUT ORAL
TESTIMONY THAT A NUMBER OF
DEPARTMENTS ARE ALREADY WORKING
TO FIND WAYS TO EDUCATION
TRAINING AND POLICIES IF YOU CAN
GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE I
APPRECIATE THAT.
YEAH SURE THINKING IF IF YOUR
ARGUMENT IS THAT THAT ONGOING
WORK WITH SUGGEST THAT IT'S
HAPPENING IN THIS BILL IS IT
NECESSARY.
BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING ME TO NOT
VOTE ON THIS BILL I'D LIKE TO
KNOW WHAT THOSE EXAMPLES ARE.
YOU MAY RESPOND TO CHECK.
I THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION --
WE HAVE BEEN ON THE RECORD
SUPPORTING DE ESCALATION
TRAINING CRISIS INTERVENTION
TRAINING PROCEDURAL BIAS
TRAINING IMPLICIT --
RACIAL BIAS TRAINING AND SO IS
EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WE'VE
SUPPORTED IN THIS BUILDING --
TO ADDRESS THE TYPE OF SITUATION
SAID THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
TO MOVE AWAY.
FIND WAYS TO MITIGATE OR REDUCE
THE NUMBER OF OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
OTHER OTHER THERE'D INDIVIDUAL
CHIEFS THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF
WORKGROUPS PART OF PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
TASK FORCE ON POLICING THAT HAVE.
HELPED CREATE THE SIX PILLARS OF
MODERN POLICING THAT WE'VE ALL.
BEEN ADOPTING EITHER THROUGH
LOCAL POLICIES A COMMUNITY
OUTREACH [inaudible]
BOB EVENTS --
ESPECIALLY TO YOUTH YOU KNOW
GETTING TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS
TALKING TO A DISADVANTAGED
MINORITY AYE YOUTH WHEN THEY'RE
YOU KNOW AT A YOUNGER AGE THAT
THERE IN IRAQ.
JUST IN THE MOST.
SEVERE CRISIS MOMENTS WHEN
YOU'RE NOT GONNA DEVELOP A BOND
OF TRUST TO TALK TO THEM EARLY
ON SO THAT THEY HAVE AN
EXPERIENCE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
IT'S POSITIVE.
SO STARTING TO TRY AND INSTILL
THOSE TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS
EARLY ON THOSE ARE THINGS THAT
WE'VE DONE WITH WHICH WE
ACKNOWLEDGE TAKE TIME THAT'S
THAT IS OBSOLETE IT'S IT'S A
CULTURAL GENERATIONAL SHIFT
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME IT'S
THINGS THAT WERE WILLNG TO DO --
AS FAR AS THINGS WERE WILLING --
TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON I MEAN
EXACTLY WHAT I SAID EDUCATION
TRAINING POLICIES WE THINK THAT
THIS LEGAL STANDARD HAS BEEN SET
BY THE COURTS IT'S CLEAR IT'S
DEFINED.
IT UNDERSTANDS THE TYPES OF
SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AND SHIFTING HIS LEGAL
BURDEN BEYOND --
WHAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED IS
SOMETHING THAT GIVES US GREAT
CONCERN.
AND IT'S INTERESTING YOU SHOULD
REFERENCE ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
TASK FORCE BECAUSE DOCTOR WEBER
WAS UNABLE TO IT DIDN'T SO I
ATTENDED --
A COUPLE THEIR MEETINGS IN
WASHINGTON DC ON AS A CO AUTHOR
OF A PREVIOUS BILL SHE CARRIED
AND WHAT STRUCK ME ONE ITEM THAT
THAT THERE WAS NOT A THINK THERE
WAS.
ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT REPRESENT
DIFFERENT CALIFORNIA.
AND HE WAS THE BAR CHIEF OF
POLICE I DIDN'T SEE ONE
CALIFORNIA CHIEF OF POLICE AT
THOSE MEETINGS SO I HAD NO IDEA
THAT YOU WALDRON GAZED AT BEGUN
TO ACCEPT THOSE POLICY
RECOMMENDATIONS.
BECAUSE I JUST THERE WAS NOBODY
THERE WHICH WAS STRIKING TO ME.
AS A CALIFORNIA POLICY MAKER SO
I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THAT'S
WHAT YOU ARE WORKING ON THROUGH
THE CHAIR IF YOU. TO THE CHAIR
YES GO AHEAD.
THURMOND NUMEROUS POLICE CHIEFS
AND TRAVELED TO DC OVER THE
YEARS -- IN
THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION TO WORK
ON POLICING ISSUES AND AND NOT
JUST THAT ONE IN A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT WAYS OKAY I'VE I'VE
HAD DOZENS OF POLICE HAVE TO GET
TO KNOW IT WAS THE ONE THAT THAT
THE TED THAT THE SPECIFIC
GATHERING YOU MENTIONED.
I WAS THERE SO THAT'S GREAT TO
KNOW THAT THEY'VE TRAVELED AND
ARE ENGAGING IN OTHER WAYS THAT
I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD.
IT'S GIVING CALIFORNIA'S
POPULATION.
ABOUT THIRDLY I'D I'D I'D LOOK
AT THE PORAC --
COMMENTS IN THE ANALYSIS ON MOM
PAGE FOURTEEN OF A FIFTEEN PAGE
ANALYSIS --
WHERE THEY OF COURSE STATE THEIR
OPPOSITION AND STATE THE
LEGISLATION FAILED TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THAT IMPOSING A NEW
STANDARD FOR USE OF DEADLY FORCE?
WOULD REQUIRE THAT EVERY POLICE
OFFICER IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BE RETRAINED AND SO
MY QUESTION FOUR PORAC IS IS IT
IS IT A MATTER AS A MERE MATTER
OF OF COUGH.
ON AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE?
OR JUST THE BY RECREATING OF
POLICE OFFICERS AND SHE WOULD BE
GOOD AND TO REEVALUATE ALL POST
TRAINING.
IF.
IF TRAINING IS THE ONLY ISSUE.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS EARN READ
REPRESENTING PORAC A THE ANSWER
THAT QUESTION IS YES YOU HAVE TO
RETRAIN OVER ONE HUNDRED
THOUSAND POLICE OFFICERS.
AND YOU NEED TO DO IT VERY VERY
FAST HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE BILL
BECAME LAW OTHERWISE YOU FIND
OFFICERS IN VIOLATION NOT REALLY
KNOWING.
SO THE TRAINING IS HUGE IT'S
GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TASK THE
TRAIN THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT FAST.
AND THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE BILL
TO DO THAT THEN BUT IN THE
BUDGET FOR POST HAS BEEN
BASICALLY STATIC IN FACT IT WAS
CUT I THINK THIS LEGISLATURE
RETORT RESTORED A LITTLE BIT OF
IT THIS YEAR YES BUT NOT BUT NOT
ENOUGH.
AND FULL TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
BOMB BUT WE KNOW THAT TRAINING
IS ESSENTIAL WHICH IS WHY THIS
LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN SENSITIVE
TO THAT ISSUE.
ARM BUT AT WHAT POINT WOULD LAW
ENFORCEMENT --
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT REACH THAT
THING ON YOUR TRAINING IS
NECESSARY.
WHAT ISSUE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE
WOULD WANT PERHAPS YOU ALL
COMING TO THE TABLE AND PUTTING
FORWARD A BILL ARE ASKING FOR
AUGMENTATION TO POST TRAINING
BECAUSE GIVEN THE NUMBERS WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT IT SEEMS TO ME?
FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUE HAS GOT
TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST BUT
IF NOT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE THERE THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF ISSUES AND YOU KNOW
YOURSELF YOU'VE SEEN ME
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT.
OF A BILLS FOR TRAINING ON
MENTAL HEALTH A SENATOR BILLS
LEGISLATION WE'VE DONE THAT AND
WE'VE WE'VE SUPPORTED OTHER
TRAINING.
FOR A BI IS TRAINING A WE'VE
DONE THAT IN AND SO HOW IS THAT
BEING AND I APPRECIATE IT'S A
HUGE.
OF COURSE --
I REPRESENT LOS ANGELES.
UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
FORMER POLICE COMMISSION.
SHARE HE FOUND A WAY TO
PRIVATELY RAISED DOLLARS FOR
IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING FOR LA PD
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A SILLY
PROPPING BUT HE HAD THE CAPACITY
THAT WE DID.
AND SO FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE HOW
HAVE YOU ROLLED IN THE MENTAL
HEALTH TRAINING WE'RE ALL CLEAR
THAT ALL THE POLICE CAN.
COME OFF THE STREET FOR A PERIOD
OF TIME TO BE TRAINED BUT BUT
HOW HAVE YOU INCORPORATED THE
MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING INTO THE
WORK FORCE GOOD MAYBE WE SHOULD
LEARN SOMETHING FROM THAT. TO
THAT APPLY TO THIS IN THE CASE
OF THE CHP WHICH I'M VERY
FAMILIAR WITH WE'VE COME TO THE
LEGISLATURE AN ASTRONAUT
MEDITATION FOR TRAINING AND THAT
WAS GRANTED.
A IT BECAUSE WE HAD TO PAY FOR
BECAUSE WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH
FORTY HOURS OF ADDITIONAL
TRAINING AS A WHOLE WEEK FOR
EVERY SINGLE OFFICER SEVERAL.
THOUSAND SIX SEVEN THOUSAND
OFFICERS AND THE HIGHWAY PATROL
ALSO BUT IN THEIR FIRST YEAR OF
HAVING TO DO CHEN AROUND MENTAL
HEALTH FOUND WITHIN THEIR OWN
BUDGET TO DO I'VE APPRECIATED
THAT WE'VE AUGMENTED IT.
BUT BUT WHEN.
WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT MAKES IT A
PRIORITY?
WE FIND A WAY.
AND SO I THINK MY POINT OF
ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IS AS YOU
ASSERT YOU'VE COME TO THE TABLE
YOU'RE WORKING ON POLICIES --
UP I'VE SAID ON PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEES AND THAT WAS ELECTED.
ARM AND I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND
THE NUMBER OF TIMES LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS COME TO THE TABLE
TO TRULY --
COLLABORATIVELY ADDRESS ISSUES
YOU KNOW PERHAPS MENTAL HEALTH
THIS POLITICALLY ALL BUT EASIER
PILL TO SWALLOW.
THE END RACE BASE.
BIAS AND I GET THAT WE ALL HAVE
WORK TO DO BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M
REALLY.
ASKING THE QUESTION SINCERELY TO
FIGURE HOW DO WE MOVE FROM POINT
A TO POINT B. AS OPPOSED TO
CONTINUING TO CLAP FOR THESE
BILLS COME UP SO THAT'S WHY I
ASKED THE QUESTION I APPRECIATE
YOU COMING.
FOR TO ANSWER ME --
OUT ON BEHALF OF KORESH.
I WILL --
FIX THEM EIGHT FISCAL SPONSOR --
MADAM CHAIR AND WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY.
BOB I ASK THESE QUESTIONS OF THE
OPPOSITION --
NOT TO BE AN IRRITANT TO THEM
ALL THE LAMPS S CLEAR THAT I AM --
BUT TO REALLY BEGIN TO HAVE A
DEEPER LEVEL CONVERSATION ABOUT
HOW WE COME TO SOLUTION.
BECAUSE TO SIMPLY HAVE THE BILLS
INTRODUCED TO SIMPLY READ THE
OPPOSITION TO READ YOU KNOW
LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW THIS BILL IS
DANGEROUS THIS INFLAMMATORY
LANGUAGE AROUND CRIMINALS WILL
NOT BE STOPPED NO ARRESTS WILL
TAKE PLACE.
ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT LIVES WILL
BE AT RISK IS NOT HELPFUL
[inaudible]
IT'S NOT.
I QUESTION ITS ACCURACY THAT'S
ME AND PERHAPS MY OWN IMPLICIT
BIAS.
BUT I IT'S NOT HELPFUL. TO
ADVANCE A DISCUSSION AROUND A
PUBLIC POLICY CRISIS IN
CALIFORNIA AND THIS COUNTRY.
AND SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE
CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE A MORE
MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE AND CRACKED
TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS IF IF THE
ONLY ISSUE YOU HAVE WITH THE
BILL.
IS A LACK OF RESOURCES FOR
TRAINING.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT DON'T SAY THAT IF THAT'S NOT
THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE.
IF THE ISSUE IS RESOURCES FOR
TRAINING LET'S SAY THAT.
AT SOME POINT PERHAPS WE NEED TO
RE EVALUATE ALL OF POST TRAINING
AND PERHAPS ALL OF POST THREE
THAT'S NOT LIKE YOU JUST TAKE
ONE CLASS AND THEN YOU GET IT.
PERHAPS ALL OF POST TRAINING
NEEDS TO HAVE IT LANDS OF BY YES
AND DEALING WITH DIFFERENT
COMMUNITIES IN DEALING WITH THE
REALITY OF WHO LAW ENFORCEMENT
CONFRONTS ON THE STREETS EVERY
DAY TODAY.
WE'VE DONE A PIECEMEAL APPROACH
TO AUGMENTING PULSE PERHAPS THE
NEXT TO THE LEGISLATION IS A
COMPLETE.
EVALUATION OF CURRENT POST
TRAINING.
MAYBE THAT'S THE ISSUE AND TERMS
OF ON THE FRONT END WHAT WE'RE
EXPECTING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
STEP UP TO AND BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE.
UP PROUD TO SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY DOCTOR WEAPON.
SO.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE SENATOR
STONE SENATOR JACKSON AND
SENATOR BRADFORD.
THANK YOU AND THE PRESIDENT --
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN --
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK GO.
ALL THE PEOPLE CAME TO TESTIFY
TODAY AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT
HAVE LOST LOVED ONES --
I'M MY CONDOLENCES TO YOUR
FAMILY YOUR OR YOUR OR YOUR
FRIENDS.
AND THAT WE CERTAINLY HEARD YOUR
YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND IT'S IT'S
IT'S VERY MOVING AND I'D BEEN
ELECTED OFFICIAL NUMBER TWENTY
SIX YEARS AND ONE OF THE MOST
DISTRESSING CALLS WE GET ELECTED
OFFICIALS IS WHEN.
MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
AGENCIES HAVE BEEN [inaudible]
MURDERED.
MOST RECENTLY --
A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN PALM
SPRINGS WERE I PROBABLY
REPRESENT WE HAD TWO OFFICERS
MISTER GIL VEGA AND LESLIE'S
ARACHNE.
THEY WERE CALLED.
TO A HOUSE WHERE THERE WAS A
THREATENING
AND WHEN THEY APPROACHED THE
DOOR -- OF
THE DOOR WAS --
SUDDENLY OPENED AND A MAN OPENED
FIRE MURDERING.
BOTH OF THEM.
THEY NEVER HAD THE TIME. TO
CONSIDER THE REASONABLENESS OF
THE SITUATION BECAUSE THINGS
HAPPEN IN A SPLIT SECOND.
IN THE CITY TO MACULAR WHEN I
WAS MAYOR IN. NINETEEN NINETY
FIVE WE HAD OUR FIRST.
POLICE OFFICER KILLED IN THE
LINE OF DUTY MISTER KENT
HILDEGARD.
IT WAS AT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
CALL --
MISTER HILDEGARD BY APPREHENDED
THE SUSPECT TO SAID --
HE NEEDED TO GET SOME THINGS OUT
OF THE TRUNK TO TAKE WITH HIM TO
JAIL.
AND PULLED OUT A SHOTGUN AND
FATALLY --
INJURED AYE MR IN A CART.
ACROSS A STREET ONCE A YEAR --
WE GATHER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
THROUGHOUT THE STATE
[inaudible]
AND WE SWEDE UNITE THAT THE
PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL.
TO MEMORIALIZE THOSE OFFICERS
THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE
LINE OF DUTY --
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THIS YEAR.
WERE UP TO EIGHT OFFICERS THAT
HAVE BEEN KILLED.
YOU KNOW WHEN.
YOU BECOME A POLICE OFFICER AND
MY UNCLE WAS A SERGEANT
LIEUTENANT DOT WITH LAPD.
ACTUALLY AND WENT THROUGH
EXTENSIVE TRAINING TAUGHT THAT
THE AT THE ACADEMY [inaudible]
AND ACTUALLY THE SERGEANT --
YOU KNOW WE HAVE A NATURAL
INSTINCT --
IT'S CALLED THE FIGHT OR FLIGHT
SYNDROME WHEN WE GO INTO A
DANGEROUS SITUATION IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TRAIN FOR
IT'S AN AUTONOMIC.
NERVOUS SYSTEM RESPONSE --
WHERE YOUR HEART?
RESPONSE TO A LOT OF ADRENALINE
AND YOU'RE VERY ALERT.
A LOT OF BLOOD A BLOOD GOES THE
BRAIN BECAUSE HERE.
IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN BE
HARMED [inaudible]
AND YOU HAVE IN MANY CASES A
SPLIT SECOND TO MAKE A DECISION.
AND IN THAT SPLIT SECOND --
YOU GOT TO MAKE.
THE RIGHT DECISION.
THAT'S HOPEFULLY THE RIGHT
DECISION FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED
BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE
HUMANS AND WE CAN ALWAYS MONDAY
MORNING QUARTERBACK --
AFTER A SITUATION.
BUT IT'S MY CONCERN.
THAT.
THE WAY THE BILL IS WRITTEN
TODAY [inaudible]
THAT.
I KNOW THAT EVEN.
IT PRESENT DAY I THINK PORAC CAN
CERTAINLY CONFIRM THIS ANOTHER
PLEASE AGENCIES CONFIRM THIS.
THERE IS A DIFFICULTY.
FOR CHIEF OF POLICE SHERIFFS OF
COUNTIES CHP. TO FIND QUALIFIED
PEOPLE.
THE CAN AND THAT BEING PEACE
OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
I KNOW THE SHERIFF IN RIVERSIDE
COUNTY IS LESS THAN 1%.
THAT APPLY ACTUALLY GET THE JOB
[inaudible]
AND WHEN A POLICE OFFICER OR A
PEACE OFFICER LEAVES THEIR HOUSE
EVERY MORNING.
AND I'VE I'VE SEEN IT MANY TIMES
WHERE THEY WE GO TOWARDS AND YOU
YOU HEAR THEM SAY THAT THEY KISS
THEIR WIVES NICK KISSED HER
CHILDREN WITH THE HOPES OF THE
GOING TO COME HOME THAT NIGHT.
AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.
IT'S A INCREDIBLE RESPONSIBILITY.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT.
IF WE DO NOT --
ALLOW PEACE OFFICERS TO HAVE
UNFETTERED --
ABILITIES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
AGAINST PEOPLE THAT MAY WANT TO
TAKE THEIR LIVES.
THAT WE WILL SEE LESS APPLICANTS
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
I AM STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF
TRAINING.
MY COLLEAGUE I HEARD TALKED MANY
TIMES ABOUT IMPLICIT AND
EXPLICIT BIAS.
WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE MORE
TRAINING WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE
MORE TRAINING ABOUT DE
ESCALATION.
IF THERE IS TIME TO DE ESCALATE.
IF SOMEBODY IS PULLING WHAT
APPEARS TO BE A WEAPON IS NOT
FOLLOWING ORDERS THERE MAY NOT
BE TIME FOR THAT THE ESCALATION --
TRAINING.
PEOPLE ALSO NEED TO RESPECT LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND WHEN THEY GIVE A
COMMAND.
THEY NEED TO LISTEN TO THE
COMMAND.
BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE I DON'T
BELIEVE.
THAT POLICE OFFICERS WAKEUP.
AND GO OUT AND DECIDE I THINK I
WANNA GO KILL SOMEBODY TODAY
[inaudible]
SO.
NO THESE ARE THESE ARE MY
THOUGHTS AND I RESPECTED YOU
WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING I HOPE
YOUR RESPECT ME WHEN I'M.
WHEN I'M SPEAKING --
BUT I THINK WE HAVE --
THE TREMENDOUS CORPS.
OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS HAVE
PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE
EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN
I CALL.
911- BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S BUSTING
A WINDOW IN MY HOUSE IN THE
MIDDLE NIGHT THAT I'M GONNA HAVE
SOMEBODY THERE IS GONNA PUT
THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE.
PROTECT ME AND MY FAMILY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IF THIS BILLS
PASSED IN ITS PRESENT FORM.
I BELIEVE THE POLICE OFFICERS
ARE NOT GOING TO RUSH TO A SCENE
TO PROTECT ME OR MY FAMILY.
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
WANT TO PUT THEM THEIR LIVES ON
THE LINE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE
HELD IN A CRIMINAL SENSE FOR
TAKING SOMEBODY'S LIFE IN A
PUBLIC SAFETY.
SITUATION WHERE THEY BELIEVE
THAT IT IS A RIGHTEOUS --
SITUATION. FOR THEM TO PROTECT
ME MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY OR MY
CONSTITUENTS.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS ARE
RESPECTFULLY CAN SUPPORT THE
BILL TODAY.
ALL A SH.
HAVE BEEN GREAT SO FAR POLICE
CONTINUE AND WE WILL NOW HAVE
SENATOR JACKSON'S CENTER
BRADFORD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND YOU KNOW
I THINK OF I THINK WE ALL AGREE
THAT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT POLICE
OFFICERS IN HARM'S WAY.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE
PUBLIC IN HARM'S WAY.
AND AND IT AND I THINK THAT THAT
THIS ISN'T AN ALL OR NOTHING
SITUATION IT'S NOT EITHER THE
POLICE OFFICERS.
OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
AND I NOTED A AS MY COLLEAGUE
WAS SAYING YOU KNOW WHEN YOU
KISS YOUR YOUR SPOUSE GOODBYE
WHO'S GOING TO WORK AS A POLICE
OFFICER IF.
YOU WONDER IF THEY'RE GOING TO
COME HOME BUT I WOULD SUSPECT
GIVEN THE STATISTICS THAT I'VE
READ HERE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF BLACK
FAMILIES WHO WHEN THEY KISS
THEIR KIDS.
A GOOD BY DURING THE DAY
PARTICULARLY YOUNG BLACK MEN.
THEY THEY HAVE THE SAME
[inaudible]
FEAR.
AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS
COUNTRY SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT.
I MEAN.
WE'RE HERE IN THE STATE WE CAN'T.
TO A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE INANE
FEDERAL POLICY CENTER STRIPPING
CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS AT
THE BORDER THAT'S A FEDERAL
ISSUE AND ONE THAT.
I WISH WE COULD DO MORE FOR BUT
WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY HERE. TO
TO TO EXPECT.
THAT NOT ONLY ARE.
POLICE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE
SAFE IN THEIR JOBS.
BUT THAT OUR COMMUNITY AND AND
THE QUESTION WHEN YOU CALL THE
POLICE AND I KNOW THIS.
HAS OCCURRED AYE EVEN IN MY OWN
COMMUNITY.
YOU CALL PLEASE BECAUSE YOU HAVE
A SITUATION AT HOME WHERE YOU
NEED INTERVENTION FROM PUBLIC
SAFETY OFFICIALS YOU HAVE A
CHILD WHO'S GONE A LITTLE BIT
OFF THE RAILS OR EITHER DRUG --
A BAD DRUG REACTION BY OF A
FAMILY MEMBER OR SOMEONE IS --
IN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION
YOU WANNA FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU
CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT THE GOING
TO HELP YOU RESOLVE THE PROBLEM
AND NOT END UP EITHER --
BADLY INJURING SOMEONE OR BEING
SHOT THEMSELVES OR SHOOTING
SOMEONE AND YOU KNOW THE
STATISTICS HERE ARE TRUST.
SO TROUBLING THAT IN CALIFORNIA
IN.
TWENTY SEVENTEEN OFFICER SHOT
AND KILLED A HUNDRED AND SIXTY
TWO PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA.
GREAT ONLY HALF OF WHOM WERE
ARMED WITH GUNS.
CHIC YOU GOTTA ASK YOURSELF.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
AND AND THAT'S REALLY I THINK
WHY -- Y.
WERE ALL HERE WE WANT TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE.
OUR COMMUNITY SAFER AND TO MAKE
THE CHART FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
SAFER AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT MY
COLLEAGUES CONCERNS ABOUT A GUY
WHO GOES INTO THE TRUNK OF HIS
CAR PULLS OUT A OF A SHORT
CONCERT SHOOTING PEOPLE.
THAT TO ME IS THE BEST ARGUMENT
YOU CAN MAKE FOR BETTER GUN
CONTROL [inaudible]
SO.
SO I DON'T KNOW REFER GOING TO
GET THAT FAR OH YOU KNOW WE HAVE
SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO
ADDRESS WHEN THAT COMES TO THAT
ISSUE BUT THAT SITUATION WAS
NEVER GOING TO BE RESOLVED
DIFFERENTLY.
BUT WE DO HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE.
WE HAVE LONG FORSMAN WHO'S
CALLED TO AN EVENT.
AND THE FIRST INSTINCT IT WOULD
SEEM TO ME HAS GOTTA BE TOO
HARDY RESOLVE THIS.
FAVORABLE HE FOR EVERYBODY
RATHER THAN HOW HOW WE GOING TO
END UP WITH PEOPLE IN THE
HOSPITAL OR PEOPLE DEAD.
THAT SO FOR ME THIS IS IT IT'S
GOTTA BE A CULTURE SHIFT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CULTURE
SHIFT HERE AND I HAVE RIGHT HERE --
I HAPPEN --
TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE DOING POST.
THE S. WHO ARE DOING THE
TRAINING AND THERE IS SOME
SUBSTANTIAL TRAINING OUT THERE
TO TALK TO DO DE ESCALATION WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING.
THAT --
THERE ARE WAYS TO RESOLVE THESE
PROBLEMS THAT DON'T CALL FOR THE
USE OF DEADLY FORCE --
AND THAT IF WE TRAIN OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE SO THAT.
WHEN THAT ADRENALINE STARTS TO
PUMP BECAUSE IT WILL?
THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO TAKE STEPS
TO DE ESCALATE THE SITUATION
SOLVE A USES AN EXAMPLE THE
WHOLE ISSUE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
USED TO BE AND PROBABLY STILL IS
THE NUMBER MOST DANGEROUS CALL
THAT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT GETS
BECAUSE HER PEOPLE WHOSE
EMOTIONS ARE HEIGHTENED AND IF
THERE'S A FIRE ARMOR.
WEAPON AVAILABLE.
SO WHEN WE STARTED ADDING WOMEN
TO THE POLICE FORCE.
AND WOMEN GOING OUT ON THESE
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE WE SAW
A SIGNIFICANT DE ESCALATION AND
A MORE FAVORABLE SET OF RESULTS
BECAUSE THE WOMEN WHO WOULD GO
NGUYEN HAD THE ABILITY I'M NOT
QUITE SURE WHAT IT WAS. TO SORT
OF RAMP THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING FOR WE WANT BETTER
RESULTS WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
GOES UP BETTER RESULTS FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT I'M A LOT OF FRIENDS
WHO ARE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT I'VE
GREAT REGARD FOR THESE PEOPLE.
AND THEY DO PUT THEMSELVES ON
THE LINE BUT I WOULD SUBMIT TO
YOU THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO TRY TO
KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE.
AND SO IT'S THAT MINDSET THAT WE
NEED TO START DEVELOPING IN
GREATER NUMBERS AND YOU KNOW
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS
TO ME PETE POLICE.
IN KERN COUNTY OF KILLED MORE
PEOPLE PER CAPITA THAN IN ANY OF
THE UNITED STATES COUNTY.
AT I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN THE
THESE ARE JUST FACTS THAT I
THINK UBER.
UNREFUTED BOWL.
AND THEN.
STUDIES SHOW POLICE KILL UNARMED
YOUNG BLACK MEN AT MORE THAN
TWENTY TIMES THE RATE THEY KILL
YOUNG WHITE MEN.
THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT'S JUST A
STAGGERING STATISTIC AND SO I'M
SORT OF THE PLAINTIFFS.
ELEMENT HERE WHERE I JUST I WANT
US ALL TO BE SAFER AND I THINK.
OF THAT THE MEASURES IN THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THE AUTHOR HAS
TAKEN I'D I THINK IT NOW --
CREATES A STRONG BILL I DON'T
THINK IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING WHY
YOU'RE WHY SHOULD BE ALL OR
NOTHING.
THAT IS --
EITHER OF ARE GOING TO BE ABLE --
TO USE DEADLY FORCE OR THEY'RE
GOING TO GET KILLED.
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO USE
DEADLY FORCE RIGHT I DON'T THINK
THAT'S THE THING.
I MEAN IT'LL LOOK TAKE A LOOK AT
SEATTLE.
TAKE A LOOK AT SEATTLE THEY WERE
UNDER A CONSENT DECREE.
AND THEY FIGURED IT OUT IN IN
FACT THEIR RESULTS NOW OR
THERE'S LESS VIOLENCE.
AND FEWER POLICE OFFICERS ARE
BEING KILLED.
THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE
THAT SEEMS TO BE RIGHT.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY TALK
ABOUT THAT HERE TODAY AND AND
YOU KNOW WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT
THEY'RE DOING IN SEATTLE AND I
THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
IS THEY'RE DOING THAT TRAINING
THAT THAT WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT
IS APPROPRIATE AND I THINK WITH
A BILL LIKE THIS IT'S GOING TO
FORCE THE DISCUSSION.
RATHER THAN SAY WE MIGHT WE WILL
IT'S GOING TO FORCE US TO PUT
MORE MONEY INTO THIS TRAINING
THAT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND
IT'S GONNA CHANGE A CULTURE.
THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND SO --
A WITHOUT I WANT TO KEEP OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT SAFE AND I BELIEVE
WHEN WE DO THIS KIND OF TRAINING
WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WHEN THE THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO
DE ESCALATE TO THE EXTENT
POSSIBLE THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS
BILL THAT I READ THE TO SHE CAN
USE DEADLY FORCE?
IF YOU IF YOU DEEM IT IS
NECESSARY TO PROTECT YOURSELF OR
OTHERS.
BUT YOU GOTTA RECOGNIZE THAT
THAT ISN'T THE ONLY ANSWER HERE.
AND THAT WE GOT TO TRY OTHER
THINGS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE
AND SO I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR I APPRECIATE ALL THE
EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
X. EXPRESSED MY POSITION CAME
OUT I I REALLY WASN'T SURE I
COULD.
SUPPORT THIS BUT I THINK YOU I
THINK YOU'VE CREATED THAT
BALANCE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE
THEY'RE THERE TO PROTECT US AND
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S
WHY THEY'RE THERE.
AND SO WITHOUT --
I WILL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL
MADAM CHAIR.
AS AMENDED OF COURSE TESTAMENT --
SENATOR BRADFORD.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND I'M
FIRST WANT TO THANK.
DOCTOR WEBER FOR THIS
COMMONSENSE APPROACH.
TO ADDRESSING A REAL ISSUE NOT
ONLY IN CALIFORNIA BUT ARE
ACROSS THIS NATION AS IT RELATES.
TO LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERACTION
SPECIAL WOULD.
PEOPLE OF COLOR [inaudible]
ARM IT.
ALWAYS BLOWS ME AWAY WHEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT FEAR FOR THEIR LIFE
ONLY WHEN THEY'RE FACING BLACK
AND BROWN PEOPLE.
JUST A WEEK AFTER STEFAN CLARK
[inaudible]
WAS MURDERED --
IN SOUTH [inaudible] ONE
FORTUNATE.
ENCOUNTERED A WHITE MAN.
WHAT A RIFLE?
WHO NOT ONLY HAD A RIFLE*
FIRED AT THEM SEVERAL TIMES?
THAT INDIVIDUAL IS HOME SAFE
TODAY.
AND IT BLOWS ME AWAY THAT
BLOCKING BROWN.
MEN AND WOMEN.
DON'T EVEN GET TO DETAIL.
THEY ONLY GET THE CHANCE TO BE
ARRESTED.
I'M ALL.
FOR BETTER TRAINING BUT WHY
ISN'T IT TRAINING NEED IT WHEN
YOU ENCOUNTER WHITE FOLKS.
YOU ONLY NEED BETTER TRAINING
WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER BLACK AND
BROWN PEOPLE THERE IS IMPLICIT
BIAS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS
COUNTRY AND WE MUST.
I ADMIT TO IT BEFORE WE CAN
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS
STATUE IS THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE
SINCE.
EIGHTEEN SEVENTY TWO IF YOU KNOW
IT HISTORICALLY IT WAS ONLY AN
ACTIVE AFTER SLAVERY.
AND ALMOST EVERY DRACONIAN LAW
ON THE BOOKS. FOR ENFORCEMENT
FROM VAGRANCY TO TRUANCY TO THE
USE OF DEADLY FORCE WAS ONLY AN
ACTIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AFTER
SLAVERY AS ANOTHER WAY OF
SUPPRESSING BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
AND THAT MINDSET HAS NOT CHANGED
TO THIS DAY.
I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO
ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
BUT THEY WILL TELL YOU THERE IS
NO REVERENCE FOR LIFE WHEN IT
COMES TO BLACK MEN.
IN THIS COUNTRY WHEN IF ONE
FACING THE MAJORITY LAW
ENFORCEMENT I GREW UP IN A
PREDOMINANTLY WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD.
STILL I SAW BOTH SIDES LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
AND I SAW THE DIFFERENCE IN
INTERACTING WHEN I WAS WITH MY
WHITE FRIENDS.
VERSUS WHEN I WAS WITH MY BLACK
FRIENDS AND IT'S A STARK.
DIFFERENCE I'LL SLIT YOUR TO
SLICK MEDIUM BOYS AND MEN OF
COLOR AND JUST ACROSS THE HALL
FOUR YEARS AGO WE HAD A HEARING.
AND WE HAD A HEARING BUILDING
WHAT POLICE INTERACTION WITH
BLACK AND BROWN.
AND WE HAD A POLICE CHIEF WHO
TESTIFIED.
AND HE SAYS WHEN WE ASK THEM
WHAT WAS THE TOUGHEST.
THING YOU HAD TO DO AS A POLICE
CHIEF.
ANY SET THERE FOR MANY SAYS.
WHEN MY SIXTEEN YEAR OLD?
COTTAGE DRIVER'S LICENSE.
YOU SINCE I HAD TO SIT HIM DOWN
AND TELL THEM WHAT HE SHOULD AND
SHOULD NOT DO.
NOT WHEN --
IF HE'S BOUGHT ENCOUNTERED LAW
ENFORCEMENT WHEN HE ENCOUNTERS
LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT POLICE
CHIEF WAS BLOCKED.
ANY SET THERE INSTEAD MICHAEL Y.
COLLEAGUES TO NOT HAVE TO HAVE
THAT SAME DISCUSSION WITH THEIR
SONS AND DAUGHTERS WHEN THEY GET
THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE SO POKED
THEIR SOMETHING WRONG HERE IN
THIS COUNTRY.
THIS IS A COMMON SENSE MEASURE
TO ADDRESS.
A A A A ISSUE OF LEGACY I'M
GONNA THIS LAID OUT ITS RACISM
FOLKS.
THIS IS WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A MENACE
COUNTRY AND UNTIL WE ADDRESS
THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE THESE PROBLEMS SO I'M
HONORED TO BE A COOPER THIS BILL.
AND I'M HONORED TO SUPPORT IT AS
WELL SO THANK YOU.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS
FROM THE DYESS MURRAY SO --
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION ST --
DISCUSSION SO FAR BY MY
COLLEAGUES.
AND ALL SOON TO GIVE MY THANKS
TO THOSE OF YOU IN THE HEARING
ROOM FOR YOUR DECORUM
[inaudible]
AND MS WEBER AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PATIENCE FOR OF IT'S BEEN A
LONG HEARING --
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A CHARGED
ISSUE.
AND BUT I THINK I WANNA THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
BEFORE US BECAUSE I DO THINK
THAT.
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION. TO REVIEW
OUR PENAL CODE STATUTES AND HAS
BEEN POINTED OUT SO FAR
[inaudible]
THE THE USE OF FORCE STATUTE
RELATED TO POLICE OFFICERS WAS
ENACTED IN.
NINETEEN SEVENTY TWO AND ARE
THAT STATUTE WHICH IS CALIFORNIA
PENAL CODE ONE NINETY SIX IS THE
SINGLE OLDEST UNAMENDED LAW
ENFORCEMENT USE OF FORCE STATUTE
IN THE U. S. SURVEY.
SO IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO
RE LOOK AT IT --
AND I THINK THAT THE AMENDMENTS
THAT.
OUR STAFF IN WORKING WITH --
VARIOUS EXPERTS AND ALSO THE
AUTHOR HAVE COME UP WITH.
DO A GREAT DEAL TO HELP --
TO CLARIFY THE BILL AND ENSURE
THAT THE BILL CONFORMS TO THE
STANDARDS THAT WERE SET FORTH IN
TWO U. S. SUPREME COURSES COURT
CASES.
THE I TENNESSEE VERSUS GARNER
AND GRAHAM VERSUS CONOR.
AND BASICALLY IN THOSE RULINGS --
THE SUPREME COURT LAID OUT
APPROPRIATE PROTOCOLS THAT
STATES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT'S.
SHOULD IN EFFECT FOLLOW AND WHAT
THIS BILL WOULD DO IS UPDATE
CALIFORNIA'S CODE. TO DO SO.
AND UNDER THE REGARDING THE PART
OF REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES UNDER
THE EXISTING STANDARDS
REASONABLE PEACE OFFICERS ACTING
UNDER THE TOTALITY OF THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
ALREADY HAVE TO USE REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVES TO DEADLY FORCE SO
REALLY THE BILL.
DOES NOT.
IT GREATLY VARY FROM WHAT IS
EXISTING EXCEPT FOR SOME
CLARIFICATION.
SO I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE BY
APPRECIATE THAT.
COM.
WHAT I WANT TO EXPRESS IS THAT
WHILE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE VERY
ELOQUENTLY EXPRESSED THE
EXPERIENCE OF WHAT IT IS LIKE TO
BE BLACK AND BROWN?
IN OUR STATE IN OUR COUNTRY AND
I AM NOT BLACK OR BROWN SO WHILE
I HAVE OBSERVED THAT I HAVE NOT
PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED IT I ALSO
WANT TO EXPRESS THAT.
I THINK ALL OF US APPRECIATE AS
MUCH AS WE CAN BE VERY.
ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED AND HAVE
MANY OTHER EMOTIONS WHEN WE SEE
OFFICERS USE FORCE I THINK WE
ALSO APPRECIATE.
THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS TAKE THEIR LIVES IN
THEIR HANDS EVERY DAY WHEN THEY
GO TO WORK.
AND SO.
IT CREATES THIS TYPE OF ON ON
ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE VERY VERY.
VERY DEEP SEATED FEELINGS AND I
RECALL VERY WELL WHEN I TOOK
OFFICE IN TWO THOUSAND AND NINE
THE AND THE SHOOTING DOWN OF
FOUR OFFICERS IN OAKLAND.
IN IT REALLY COLD BLOODED MURDER.
IT IT REALLY BROUGHT HOME FOR ME
JUST HOW REAL IT WAS.
HOW OFFICERS TAKE THEIR LIFE IN
THEIR HANDS EVERYDAY BUT WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO DO?
IN AND IN WHAT THE AUTHOR I
THINK IS TRYING TO NOT THINK I
KNOW IS TRYING O DO.
AND YOU SUPPORTERS IN THIS
CHANGE IS TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR
ALL OF US FOR OFFICERS AND FOR
RESIDENTS.
AND WHILE WE CAN HOLD TRUE AND
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ALL OF OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TAKE THEIR
LIVES IN THEIR HANDS EVERYDAY
WHEN THEY WALK OUT THE DOOR.
WE DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO
FEEL LIKE THEIR LIVES IS SOMEHOW
AT RISK EVERY TIME THEY WALK OUT
THE DOOR.
AND SO BY.
TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS VERY
OUTDATED STATUTE THAT WE HAVE.
AND WE KNOW THAT TO REALLY.
MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE
INTENDED YES WE HAVE TO REVISE
THE TRAINING THAT WE DO OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND IT WILL TAKE
TIME.
AND SO I SUPPOSE I WOULD ASK OUR
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHO
OPPOSE THE BILL WHETHER AND IF
THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO THE AUTHOR
ABOUT WHETHER IT DELAYED
IMPLEMENTATION.
THAT GIVES THE TWO OF US THE
ABILITY TO BUILD IN THE TRAINING
WOULD THEY THEN.
THE MORE RECEPTIVE AND CERTAINLY
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD
STILL BE DISCUSSED IF THIS BILL
MOVES ON FROM THIS COMMITTEE
WHICH I THINK IT IS LIKELY TO DO
SO TODAY.
AND I WILL BE RECOMMENDING A
FIVE VOTE ON THE BILL.
AND I DO SO BOTH BECAUSE OF AS I
STATED THE FACT THAT THE
EXISTING STATUTE HAS NOT BEEN
CHANGED IN SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME.
BECAUSE OF THE SUPREME COURT
RULINGS FOR WHICH THIS BILL
WOULD PUT US MORE IN CONFORMANCE
UNDER.
AND BECAUSE UNDER THE PROVISIONS
OF THIS BILL THE USE OF DEADLY
FORCE BY PEACE OFFICER.
IS [inaudible]
DOES NOT.
IT DOES NOT --
IN TRYING --
TO I'M MAD.
LOSING MY ARTICULATION HERE.
IT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY NEGATE.
ANY OF THE OTHER STATUTES THAT
WE HAVE. FOR EXAMPLE --
PENAL CODE.
NE NINETY SEVEN BOARD THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA'S
CRIMINAL JURY INSTRUCTION AROUND
JUST FULL HOME SITE IT DOES NOT
NEGATE ANY OF THOSE.
AND SO IN IN FACT IT BRINGS UP.
SO THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE MUCH
MORE PROTECTED THAN JUST A
REGULAR INDIVIDUALS IN TERMS OF
WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF HOMICIDE.
SO I THINK WITH ALL OF THAT THIS
IS A REASONABLE CHANGE
[inaudible]
AND YES WE WILL NEED MORE
TRAINING AND THE WILD THE BUDGET
IN OUR BUDGET CHAIR DIDN'T
MENTION THIS WHILE THE BUDGET
DOES HAPPY TWENTY MILLION DOLLAR
INCREASE TO POST TRAINING.
I THINK THERE IS AN APPRECIATION
THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE
ADEQUATE AND THERE WOULD HAVE TO
BE ADDITIONAL BUT I THINK THAT'S
THE TYPE OF CONVERSATION.
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE AS WE MOVE
FORWARD SO I KNOW THERE'S A
MOTION ON THE BILL AND I KNOW
THAT ALSO A LOT OF MEMBERS HAD
TO GO IN PERCENT IN OTHER
COMMITTEES THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS
ON A DAY LIKE TODAY.
IT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE BILL
IT'S JUST THAT WORSE AT LEAST
FOUR OTHER COMMITTEES GOING ON
CONCURRENTLY.
AND MEMBERS HAVE GOT A PERCENT
SO BUT WE WILL.
TAKE A ROLL CALL SORRY I NEED TO
HAVE --
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WEBER CLOSE AND
THEN WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL ON
THE BILL AS AMENDED SO ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WEBER YES MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS UP FIRST OF ALL LET ME
THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME TODAY.
FOR THEIR INPUT AND THEIR
CONCERN FROM THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
PERSONS WHO DROVE ALL NIGHT TO
GET HERE I REALLY WANT TO THANK
THE OF THE MEMBERS WHO CAME TO
SO OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME
TO SUPPORT THE BILL --
YOU KNOW MANY DIFFERENT
DEPARTMENTS IN CALIFORNIA
ALREADY REALIZE THEY HAVE A
ISSUE WOULD HAVE BEGUN TO HOLD
THEMSELVES TO A HIGHER STANDARD
IN BEGUN.
TO AND AND HOW MANY HAVE BEGUN
TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF THE
ESCALATION.
OF IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS WE SEE A
DIFFERENT CHANGE NOT ONLY IN
TERMS OF MORALE OF THE
INDIVIDUALS WITH THEIR BUT ALSO
THE RESULTS IN TERMS OF FEWER
PEOPLE.
ARE BEING KILLED FEW OFFICERS
BEING SHOT AND THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS WHICH ATTEST TO THE FACT
THAT ARE CLEARLY A CHANGE IS
NECESSARY AND IT'S A POSITIVE
THING.
THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
YOU KNOW MOST OF YOU KNOW MY
BODY OF WORK GOODNESS IN THIS
BUILDING --
YOU KNOW AND WHERE I CAME FROM
IN TERMS OF UNIVERSITY SO MOST
THINGS I DON'T DO LIKELY AND I
DON'T DO WITHOUT PURPOSE WITHOUT
MEANING.
AND OF THIS TOPIC I TAKE VERY
SERIOUSLY --
NOT ONLY JUST AS A LEGISLATOR
BUT AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN AND
AS A MOTHER --
IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME
THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE
DONE AND WHAT WE ARE ALL OF MY
LIFE.
ALMOST SEVENTY YEARS NOW ALL OF
MY LIFE I HAVE LIVED WITH THE
FACT THAT MY YOUNG MEN IN MY
COMMUNITY OUR FREIGHT.
I'VE READ ALL ONE DOTSON'S
PULLMAN NINETEEN FORTY A BLACK
MOTHER PRAYING WHICH TALKS ABOUT
WATCHING THE LIGHT BEING
SNATCHED FROM OUR SON'S EYES IN
THE STREETS.
AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
THE THE BRUTALITY THAT WAS
EXISTING IN THE NINETEEN FORTIES
SO WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE
FOR MANY MANY YEARS AND IT'S
FORTUNATE NOW THAT WE'RE
BRINGING IT FORWARD. TO
HOPEFULLY PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION
IN LIFE AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO
TALK ABOUT.
YOU KNOW IT IS --
IT IS THAT WE HAVE DONE
EVERYTHING I THINK POSSIBLE IN
CONVERSATION AND WE BEGAN TO SEE
WHAT IS HAPPENING AFRICAN
AMERICANS HAVE KNOWN THIS THEIR
WHOLE LIFE.
AND AND IT HAS BECOME A
OBVIOUSLY APPEAR TO THE GENERAL
PUBLIC NOW BECAUSE OF CELL
PHONES AND VIDEOS AND THINGS
THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT WE DID
NOT SEEN BEFORE.
BUT WE'VE KNOWN THIS ALL ABOUT
LIVES IN FACT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
ALMOST EVERY RACE RIGHT THAT HAS
OCCURRED IN CALIFORNIA AND
SOMEWHERE IN THE NATION IT IS
BECAUSE OF SOME POLICE ACTION
THAT PEOPLE CONSIDER TO BE
UNJUST.
AND THEREFORE AS A RESULT THE
PEOPLE X..
RIGHT NOW THIS IS NOT ABOUT
TAKING AWAY OFFICES RIGHT TO USE
OF DEADLY FORCE.
TALKS ABOUT THEIR RESPECT FOR
ALL LIFE AND THAT'S WHAT EX
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WE OFTEN
HAVE FOLKS TALK ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHEN
WE WHEN AN OFFICER GOES DOWN IN
THAT IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE
SITUATION I'VE DEALT WITH THAT
IN SAN DIEGO.
A COUPLE TIMES EVEN AS AN
ELECTED OFFICIAL BUT I PROBABLY
DON'T MORE OFTEN WITH WHEN YOUNG
FOLKS HAVE BEEN SHOT IN THE
STREETS.
OF BY OFFICERS MORE THAN I AND
EITHER CASE IT IS UNACCEPTABLE
BUT WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY.
AND FIND A WAY IN WHICH WE CAN
BRING SOME SENSE OF DECENCY AND
SOME TYPE OF AFFECTED BY
POLICING THAT'S IMPORTANT.
OF TO HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT
OFFICES NEED UNFETTERED ABILITY
TO USE FORCE IS TO ME IT'S JUST.
TOTALLY IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND
UNACCEPTABLE BECAUSE WE NEED TO
TRAIN OFFICERS TO BE RESPONSIBLE
IN PRESENTING THEMSELVES AND AND
AND DEALING WITH THE ISSUE AND
THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE UNFETTERED
OPPORTUNITY JUST TO USE FORCE.
IT SHOULD BE USED BECAUSE A WELL
TRAINED AND THEY WANT TO PROTECT
THE PUBLIC THEMSELVES AS WELL AS
THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC AND I
BELIEVE THAT HAPPENS MOST OF THE
TIME.
I KNOW IT HAPPENS IN OTHER
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE SEE IT
OFTENTIMES ON TELEVISION WE SEE
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN POLICE
OFFICERS MOVE IN CERTAIN
COMMUNITIES AND HOW IT'S HANDLED
EFFECTIVELY SO THAT NO ONE IS
HURT IN THE END.
WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT IN
COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND SO IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE FORWARD.
THIS BILL IS A REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVE I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I
WAS PRESENTED WITH THIS BILL
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS A
STANDARD THAT WE USE IN
CALIFORNIA.
BACK TO BED BASICALLY LETHAL
FORCE WAS A USE WHEN YOU DIDN'T
HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE AND THAT'S
WHAT I THOUGHT BECAUSE THAT THAT
TO ME WOULD BE REASONABLE BUT
IT'S NOT IN TERMS OF HOW THE
COURTS LOOK AT IT AND SO AS A
RESULT.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I WAS
PRESENTED WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY
FOR THIS BILL. TO DO THIS THIS
IS A DIFFICULT BILL OBVIOUSLY
BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE SITUATION WE
ALL HAVE OFFICERS WE RESPECT WE
KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THE JOB AS WE
KNOW HOW HARD IT IS AT THE SAME
TIME.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE COMMUNITIES OF
FOLKS WHO AFRAID OF OFFICERS AND
AND MOM I'M ALL THEY DON'T EVEN
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT PUBLIC
SAFETY CAN OFFER THEM OUT OF
FEAR THAT IF THEY CALL THE
POLICE.
WITH SITUATION WILL BE WORSE AND
NOT BETTER AND SO I'VE SEEN
COMMUNITIES TO NOT HAVE THE
ADVANTAGE OF GOOD POLICING
BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE
OFFICES THAT THEY CALL.
I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A HARD CASE
[inaudible]
DEAL WITH PLEASE TRAINING IN THE
ESCALATION BECAUSE I KNOW
THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR
SOME CHANGE OF THAT'S BIGGER AND
THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD BUT
WE CAN'T JUST STAND BACK AND SAY
IT'S TOO DIFFICULT IS TOO HARD.
BECAUSE I CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON
THE LIFE OF A CHILD I CAN'T PUT
A PRICE ON A LIFE OF ANYONE IN
THIS COMMUNITY WITH ITS TWENTY
FIVE MILLION WHATEVER IT IS AND
I DON'T THINK ANYONE DID YOU
APPEAR.
WILL PUT A PRICE ON THE LIFE OF
YOURSELF OR MORE IMPORTANT YOUR
CHILDREN AND YOUR NEIGHBORS HE
WOULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU
CANNOT AND SO I I YOU KNOW AS I
LOOK CALIFORNIA I WAS SHOCKED AT
THE NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS WE PAT.
I WAS SHOCKED THAT WE WILL LIKE
AT THE TOP GIVEN ALL THE
TECHNOLOGY IN THE WONDERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND THAT WE ALL GREG
WOULD NOT MISSISSIPPI AND
ALABAMA.
AND AT THE SAME TIME I SEE IS AT
THE TOP AND IT JUST BLOWS ME
AWAY BECAUSE I KNOW.
THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
AND I THINK THIS BILL IS A STEP
IN THAT DIRECTION TO HELP US TO
DO BETTER.
AND AND WE'VE HAD TO CLEAN IT
CONVERSATIONS THAT YES WE SHOULD
DO JUST WE SHOULD NOT BUT HAVING
MOST OF US REALIZE WITHOUT SOME
FORM OF LEGISLATION. TO
BASICALLY FORCED THE AGENDA AND
MAKE US DO BETTER IT WILL NOT
HAPPEN I RESPECTFULLY ASK WHAT I
BOTH AB.
NINE THIRTY ONE THANK YOU SOME
REMEMBER WHOEVER WILL NOW.
HAVE A ROLL CALL IN THE BILL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER AYE
INTER AYE ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NO BRADFORD ARE
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON AYE JACKSON
AYE MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE.
WIENER AYE AYE WIENER AYE.
WE WILL KEEP THE RULE OPEN IT
DOES HAVE ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS
BUT WOULD KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR
MISSING MEMBER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH [inaudible]
AND IF.
YOU WHO WERE HERE FOR THIS BILL
ONLY IF YOU DON'T MIND --
MAKING SOME ROOM FOR OTHER FOLKS
WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN HERE FOR
THE MANY OTHER BILLS WE STILL
OFTEN HERE.
WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND WE'LL TAKE A TWO MINUTE
BREAK WHILE FOLKS ARE LEAVING
THE ROOM. TWO TO THREE MINUTE
BREAK
.
YOU KNOW WHAT
[inaudible]
YOU MAKE THE TABLE AND WE WILL --
FOR SEEDS.
AND WE NOW ARE GOING TO HEAR --
FIGHTING THREE EIGHTY THREE
SEVENTY TWO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
STONE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
SENATORS.
THIS BILL HAS.
BOY SEEING QUITE A PATH TO GET
IS HERE TODAY SO I APPRECIATE
BEING ABLE TO BE HERE.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS
LOOK HAD BATTER INTERVENTION
PROGRAMS [inaudible] TO ENSURE.
THAT THEY ARE AS EFFECTIVEAS
ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE. THIRTY
YEARS AGO CALIFORNIA LED THE
NATION WITH CREATING A MANDATORY
FIFTY TWO WEEK PROGRAM.
BUT THE STATUTE HAS BEEN UPDATED
A LONG TIME AND THE RECIDIVISM
RATE AMONGST BATTERERS IS OVER
80% SO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS ARE
NOT NECESSARILY WORKING WE HAVE
A COLLECTED ENOUGH DATA. TO
REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO
NEXT.
SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS CREATE
A PILOT PROGRAM.
THAT ALLOWS SIX COUNTIES NAPA
YOLO SANTA CLARA SANTA CRUZ SAN
LUIS OBISPO AND SANTA BARBARA
THESE COUNTIES ARE ALL
INTERESTED IN THE PILOT PROGRAM.
AND IT LETS THEM GIVES THEM SOME
A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO
RESTRUCTURE THE PROGRAM. TO USE
EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES BEST
PRACTICES TO SEE HOW THE BEST
CONSERVE THE BATTERERS BECAUSE
IF WE CAN SERVE THE BATTERERS
BETTER AND GET THEM TO BREAK
THEIR PATTERNS.
THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
RECIPROCATE AND THAT IS A VERY
STRONG WAY TO PROTECT THOSE WHO
ARE BATTERED AND THOSE WHO THEY
MIGHT BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
SO TRYING TO BUILD SOME.
FLEXIBILITY THE PROCESS RUN IT
AS A PILOT PROGRAM.
AND ENSURE THAT THESE COUNTIES
CAN THEN COLLECT DATA AND AND
AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS
PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT
MORE EFFICIENT AND REDUCE THE
AMOUNT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT
WE SEE ACROSS THE STATE.
WITHOUT I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTES.
THANK YOU SIMON MEMBER WILL
ALLOW YOUR WITNESSES SO MAYBE
THREE AT THE TABLE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT [inaudible]
BUT GOOD MORNING SENATORS MY
NAME IS AMANDA GETS ON THE
ASSISTANT CHIEF PROBATION
OFFICER WITH NAPA COUNTY
PROBATION.
I'VE WORKED IN THE FIELD THE
PROBATION FOR SEVENTEEN PLUS
YEARS AS BOTH A VIABLE DEPUTY
AND AS AN ADMINISTRATOR I'M HERE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF AB.
THREE SEVENTY TWO FILL THE
PROBATION HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON
IMPLEMENTING EVIDENCE BASED
PRACTICES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS
ESPECIALLY IN NAPA COUNTY.
RESEARCH HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT
THE USE OF VALIDATED RISK IN
NEED ASSESSMENT COUPLED WITH
INDIVIDUALIZED AND TARGETED
INTERVENTIONS REDUCE RECIDIVISM.
THE GOAL OF AB THREE SEVENTY TWO
IS TO INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.
MINIMIZE VICTIMIZATION AND STOP
MULTI GENERATIONAL PATTERNS OF
ABUSE CHANGING LIVES A CURRENT
AND FUTURE FAMILIES.
THE CURRENT LAW REQUIRES EVERY
PROBATIONER TO RECEIVE THE SAME
TREATMENT A FIFTY TWO WEEK
BATTERS INTERVENTION TREATMENT
PROGRAM.
THIS STANDARD REQUIREMENT DOES
NOT ADHERE TO EVIDENCE BASED
PRINCIPLES AND TARGETING
INTERVENTIONS TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR DRESSING
RISK TO THE COMMUNITY.
NOR DOES IT PROVIDE THAT THE
CURRICULUM IN THE BATTER'S
TREATMENT PROGRAM BE RESEARCH
BASED.
THESE PROGRAMS ARE IMPLEMENTED
DIFFERENTLY ACROSS THE STATE AND
BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENTIATION
WE CANNOT SAY THAT ANY COUNTY IS
DOING IT WELL.
NAPA COUNTY IS WILLING TO BE A
PILOT COUNTY BECAUSE WE HAVE A
PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF
IMPLEMENTING SUCCESSFUL EVIDENCE
BASED PRACTICES.
AND DESIGNING ROBUST DATA
MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS TO ENSURE
PROGRAMS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED
WITH FIDELITY.
AND ARE PRODUCING RESULTS
CONSISTENT WITH IDENTIFIED GOALS.
AB THREE SEVENTY TWO WILL ALLOW
THE PILOT COUNTIES TO UTILIZE A
VALIDATED RISK ASSESSMENT. TO
TAILOR TREATMENT TO THE
INDIVIDUAL ASSESS RISK TO THE
COMMUNITY AND TARGET
INTERVENTIONS INCLUDING ANGER
MANAGEMENT AND OTHER AREAS THAT
MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO
CRIMINALITY SUCH A SUBSTANCE
ABUSE.
THIS LEGISLATION ALSO ALLOWS A
DURATION OF TREATMENT TO BE
TAILORED TO THE INDIVIDUAL ICE
NEEDS OF THE PERSON. TO CREATE
LASTING BEHAVIOR CHANGE INSTEAD
OF SIMPLY A DATE ON THE CALENDAR.
APPLYING THESE EVIDENCE BASED
PRINCIPLES INCREASES THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT VICTIMS
REDUCE RECIDIVISM AND INCREASED
PUBLIC SAFETY.
THEREFORE I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF AB THREE SEVENTY TWO THANK
YOU.
BANKING NEXT WITNESS GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS MELINDA I'LL
LOW AND I AM CURRENTLY THE
ASSISTANT CHIEF DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY AND YOLO COUNTY.
AND I AM HERE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF
AB THREE SEVENTY TWO AND I THINK
YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK BEFORE YOU.
IN ADDITION TO BEING A CAREER
PROSECUTOR OF TWENTY ONE YEARS
I'M ALSO CURRENTLY THE CO
CHAIRED THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
COMMITTEE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION.
THROUGHOUT MY CAREER I'VE HAD
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROSECUTE
NUMEROUS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES
AND AT TIMES HAVE ACTUALLY
SERVED AS A GRANT ATTORNEYS.
IN THOSE CASES.
FROM MY EXPERIENCE MY
INVOLVEMENT WITH A CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES ARE SOME
OF THE MOST CHALLENGING CASES TO
SUCCESSFULLY.
PROSECUTE.
OFTENTIMES VICTIMS ARE RELUCTANT
TO TESTIFY.
OR COMPLETELY RECANTING.
AND CORROBORATION IS RARE.
EVEN WERE ABLE TO INTRODUCE
PRIOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EVIDENCE
OR PRODUCE INDEPENDENT WITNESSES
JURIES.
IN YOLO COUNTY HAVE BEEN
EQUATING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
OFFENDERS.
WHEN JURIES ACQUIT DEFENDANTS?
JUSTICE IS NOT SERVED A
PERPETRATORS NOT RECEIVE ANY
PENALTY OR SERVICES AND VICTIMS'
MAY BE SUBJECTED TO FURTHER
VICTIMIZATION.
AS A PROSECUTOR MANDATORY
PENALTIES IN TERMS ARE GREAT.
BUT IN ORDER. TO FOR THOSE
PENALTIES ON THOSE TERMS TO BE
IMPLEMENTED OR IMPOSE THERE MUST
BE A CONVICTION FIRST.
THE CURRENT MANDATORY FIFTY TWO
WEEK ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASS HAS
BEEN AN IMPEDIMENT TO CASE
RESOLUTION.
BUT OF GREATER CONCERN IS THE
LACK OF SUPPORTING EVIDENCE THAT
RECIDIVISM OR ACTUALLY PROVIDES
THE NECESSARY SERVICES FOR THESE.
OFFENDERS.
THIS BILL.
IS A PILOT PROJECT ALLOWING FOR
THE USE OF EVIDENCE BASED
PRACTICES AND TREATMENT TAILORED.
TO THE OFFENDERS NEEDS.
I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO END THE
ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.
AND ALLOW THIS LEGISLATION. FOR
THE BETTER TREATMENT OF
OFFENDERS.
AND ALLOWING FOR ACTUAL EVIDENCE
IN SUPPORT OF THESE PROGRAMS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING JESSICA TANDY ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IN
SUPPORT OF THE LEGISLATION IN
HERE TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
BUT I HAD MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
DANIEL SANCHEZ ON BEHALF OF THE
CHEAP PROBATION OFFICERS OF
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THIS JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY
ECHOED THE SENTIMENT THAT.
I'M SINCE THIS OP ORIGINAL
STATUE WAS FIRST ENACTED WE AVE
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OF
RESEARCHING OUTCOMES TO SHOW
THAT TARGETED INTERVENTIONS --
TO THE TREATMENTS KIND OF
MODALITIES REALLY ACHIEVE BOTH
ON A LOWER RECIDIVISM AND AND
BETTER OUTCOMES WHICH IS WHAT WE
ALL WANT TO SEE --
WHEN WE LOOK AT PROGRAM MEAN AND
IT'S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT TO NOT
LOOK AT IT AS A ONE SIZE FITS
ALL OBVIOUSLY WE'VE DONE A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT --
AS I THINK --
PROBATION PROFESSION IN THIS
LEGISLATURE HAS DONE A LOT OF
WORK TO NOT LOOK AT THINGS AS A
ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.
BUT TO SAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT
THE INDIVIDUAL [inaudible]
I TYPE PROGRAM ME TO RISK IN ALL
OF THE THINGS WHICH WE THINK
THIS BILL AYE CAPTURES VERY WELL
AND SO WE ARE CERTAINLY.
A LOOK FOR TO HABITAT HOPEFULLY
MOVING THIS FORWARD I'M TED
LOOKING AT WHAT THESE PILOTS I'M
INTEND TO DO TO GET THE OUTCOMES
THAT WE BELIEVE IT WILL ACHIEVE --
AND SO WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY THANK YOU.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
CARRY LAYING ON BEHALF OF THE
SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT THIS
MORNING THANK YOU.
REBEKAH GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT --
JOHN LEVEL LOS ANGELES COUNTY
PROBATION OFFICERS UNION ASKED
ME LOCAL.
SIX EIGHTY FIVE AND THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY PROFESSIONAL
PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION BOTH
IN SUPPORT.
AND CHAIR RYAN SHERMAN WITH THE
RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION
ALL OF THIS BILL DOES NOT IMPACT
OUR COUNTY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF
THE EFFORTS AND HOPEFULLY I WILL
BE ABLE TO DUPLICATE OF THE
RESULTS THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SEEING NONE AND IF THERE'S
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
NO OPPOSITION HEADING CONSENT
CALENDAR ANYWAY BUT SEE IF
THERE'S ANY COMMENTS FROM THE
DYESS [inaudible]
YES.
BURGER HAD SENATOR JACKSON THANK
YOU I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
DOING THIS YOU KNOW I JUST GOT
STARTED IN THIS WHOLE.
ISSUE DOMESTIC FINDS A LONG TIME
AGO WHEN I WAS A DEPUTY DA MY
FIRST ITERATION BACK IN THE
SEVENTIES DARE I SAY.
AND A WE DIDN'T DO MUCH WHEN IT
CAME TO DOMESTIC FUNDS BECAUSE A
MAN'S HOME IS HIS CASTLE.
AND SO WE STARTED.
TRYING TO ADDRESSES HIS OF
SERIOUS A PROBLEM I MEAN THE
NOTION THAT YOU --
HURT THE PEOPLE YOU PURPORTEDLY
LOVE -- AND
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CULTURE
SHIFTS THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE
COURSE OF TIME.
AND THINKS THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT
WORK HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SO I
WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL THAT RECOGNIZES THAT.
TO TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND THIS
PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE GETTING
WORSE OF NOW IS IT WORSE OR
PEOPLE JUST WILLING TO COME
FORWARD AND IT IT'S UNCLEAR.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THIS IS SORT
OF A CANCER ON OUR FAMILIES AND
ON OUR SOCIETY SO --
I THINK THAT WE HAVE.
A SEEN A SHIFT IN PANTS IN THE
WAY WE ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OUR
UNDERSTANDING OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
AND THE NEED --
TO THIS MATTER PUBLIC SAFETY TO
MOVE IT FORWARD --
AND TO TRY OTHER ALTERNATIVES I
THINK WHEN WE STARTED OUR
PROGRAM IN IN SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY WE CALLED IT THE VIOLENCE
IN THE FAMILY PROJECT.
AND NOW WE CALL DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE ALEUTIANS AND UP AGAIN
MOVING FORWARD TRYING TO TO A
CAPTURE THE BEST.
A THE BEST TECHNIQUES THE BEST
OPTIONS OF AND I CAN I THINK
HAVING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
IS A GOOD WAY TO TO HELP US ALL --
MOVE FORWARD IN AND REALLY TO DO
THE BEST WE CAN TO DEAL WITH
WHAT'S AN EPIDEMIC IN OUR
SOCIETY SAW.
HAPPY -- TO
TO MOVE THE BILL AND AND THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING IT THANK YOU
FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN THE FIELD I
KNOW IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING BUT
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT SO.
WITH THAT I MOVE THE BILL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE DICE
TO EAT YOU EVER.
YOU MOVED TO BILL CORRECTIVE
CASE WE HAVE A MOTION --
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE I WOULD JUST LIKE TO
SAY THANK YOU TO THE DA'S. TO
THE PROBATION OFFICERS TO SEE
SACRAMENTO'S HE WITH US ON IT
AND I AGREE IT'S AN EPIDEMIC
PROBLEM CALIFORNIA WAS
GROUNDBREAKING WHEN WE PUT THE
BATTER INNOVATION.
BETTER INTERVENTION PROGRAM AT
PLACE THE FIRST PLACE.
BUT AFTER SO MANY YEARS THEIR
PARTS OF IT THAT AREN'T WORKING
LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT
WORK THIS IS A PROGRAM TO DO
EXACTLY THAT'S WHAT ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLOSE AND I
APPRECIATE THAT --
DID.
BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS A
PILOT AND SO WE WOULD ENABLE US --
TO PUT INTO PRACTICE IN AND
OBVIOUSLY BUT FOUR WEEKS TENDED.
SEE WHETHER THERE'S ANY --
THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE REVISED
IN ORDER TO HAVE A STATUTE
ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE HAVE
IN MIND SO HOPEFULLY THE PILOTS
WILL GO.
SWIMMINGLY JUST AS THE BILL IS
NOW WRITTEN BUT IT LEAST IT
GIVES US THAT ABILITY.
SO WITH THAT --
WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER.
BY INNER AYE ANDERSON.
BRADFORD ON BRADFORD AYE JACKSON
AYE JACKSON AYE MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ARE MISSING MEMBERS AND THANK
YOU WILL NOW MOVE TO THE LET'S
SEE WHAT OUGHT TO DO I HAVE
NEVER.
I HAVE I HAVE WELL I'M SORRY.
I SAW HER STONE APOLOGIES ARE
GOING TO GET GO AHEAD A LONG
MORNING ALRIGHT AB.
TWENTY FIVE THIRTY THREE THANK
YOU PLEASE PROCEED WHAT
[inaudible]
CURRENTLY.
AN INMATE IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM
STATE PRISON SYSTEM IS
CONSIDERED INDIGENT IF THEY HAVE
LESS THAN A DOLLAR IN THEIR
ACCOUNTS.
THIS BILL WILL RAISE THAT TO
TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS.
BEING DECLARED IT INTO CHAT
GIVES ACCESS.
TO SUNDRIES SO SHAMPOO OTHER
THINGS THAT THAT THEY NEED ON A
DAILY BASIS IT ALSO OBVIATES THE
NEED FOR A CO PAY.
SO BY LESS THAN A DOLLAR IN
THEIR IN MADE ACCOUNT IS REALLY
TOO LOW OF A MEASURE WE'VE BEEN
WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CDC
ARE. TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE
THIS BILL RAISES THAT TO TWENTY
FIVE DOLLARS WHICH DOESN'T SEEM
LIKE MUCH BY IT STILL ISN'T IT
TRYING TO TO BENEFIT AND PROTECT.
THOSE IN THE PRISON SYSTEM
WITHOUT HAVING TO RELY ON OTHER
FAMILY MEMBERS THAT IT THAT THE
NUMBER IS SO SMALL IF YOU THINK
ABOUT THE COPAYS.
THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER THIS
EVEN THOUGH IT'S SMALL WHEN YOU
PUT IT IN CONTEXT OF WHAT.
THE UNDER A DOLLAR NET THAT
HOPEFULLY UNDER TWENTY FIVE
DOLLARS MEANS THEY'D IT WOULD BE
THE SAME AS IF WE HAD TO PAY
WORK AT THE MINIMUM WAGE WORKER
HAD TO PAY SIX HUNDRED ALMOST
SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS IN A CO
PAY.
SORT THE NUMBERS ARE JUST NOT
RIGHT AND IT'S IT'S VERY
DETRIMENTAL TO THOSE WHO ARE IN
THE INSIDE WE WANT TO REDUCE
RECIDIVISM IF WE WANT TO GIVE
THEM A CHANCE. TO DO THE WORK
INSIDE THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT THEY
HAVE THEIR LIFE INSIDE NEEDS TO
BE MADE A LITTLE BIT EASIER
THAT'S ALL THIS BILL IS TRYING
TO DO WHAT I ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTES --
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT YOU MAY
PROCEED.
HI.
I MY NAME IS COLBY LANDS I'M A
ADVOCATE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION FOR WOMEN PRISONERS
AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK ASSEMBLY
MEMBER STONE FOR FOR AND
SPONSORING THIS BILL.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
INCARCERATED PEOPLE THE WOMEN'S
PRISONS FOR OVER TWENTY YEARS
AND WE SEE THIS BILL IS A REALLY
WONDERFUL STEP ON IN MOVING
TOWARDS --
AND DID YOU MAKING RIGHTS --
MET WHILE INCARCERATED AND SO
THE POVERTY THRESHOLD WHERE IT
IS RIGHT NOW OF ONE DOLLAR ESS
PER MONTH IS NOT ONLY UNSAFE AND
UNFAIR AND UNHEALTHY BUT
ACTUALLY ABSURD RIGHT.
SO THAT MEANS THAT MOST PEOPLE
IF THEY'RE MAKING WAGES AT A JOB
IN PRISON ARE MAKING SOMEWHERE
YOU KNOW VERY SMALL WAGES ARE NO
WAGES MAYBE EIGHT DOLLARS A
MONTH OR TWELVE DOLLARS A MONTH.
WHICH IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY
THE VERY INFLATED PRICES FOR
BASIC HYGIENE SUPPLIES --
AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE
CONSISTENTLY UNDER YOU KNOW
DOLLAR OR LESS ON THEIR BOOKS ON
EVERY MONTH WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS.
TO ANY BASIC NEED SUPPLIES ABOUT
SHAMPOO SOAP.
EXETER RIGHT SO THEN THERE'S
ALSO THE ISSUE OF COPAYMENTS YOU
CAN'T ACCESS MEDICAL CARE OR
MENTAL HEALTH CARE OR DENTAL
CARE.
ON WITHOUT A FIVE DOLLAR
COPAYMENT AND IF YOU'RE MAKING
EIGHT DOLLARS OR TWELVE DOLLARS
A MONTH IF YOU'RE MAKING ANY
MONEY AT ALL.
ON EVEN THE HIGHEST WAGE --
YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE
SUPPLIES SO SO BUMPING UP THE
POVERTY THRESHOLD FROM ONE
DOLLAR MONTH TO TWENTY FIVE
DOLLARS A MONTH.
LAKE ASSEMBLY MEMBER STONE SAID
SOUND SMALL BUT IT WILL HAVE A
MAJOR IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED.
I'M IN ONE OF THOSE IN TAXES ON
THE KIND OF HUMILIATION THE
PEOPLE DESCRIBE --
FEELING AND EXPERIENCING WHEN
THEY ARE WITH WHEN THEY QUALIFY
AS INDIGENT ALSO EVERYBODY KNOWS
THAT THEY THAT MEANS THEY HAVE
LESS THAN A DOLLAR.
ONTO THEIR NAME --
AND YOU CAN ALSO IMAGINE THE
KIND OF PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
THAT THIS ADDS TO WHEN PEOPLE
CAN'T ACTUALLY ACCESS MEDICAL
CARE WHEN THEY NEED IT BECAUSE
THEY DON'T HAVE.
THE FUNDS TO PAY THE CO PAYMENT.
AND SO WE HAVE SOME QUOTES FROM
PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED --
ONE FROM A WOMAN AT CI W..
SELF ESTEEM WHEN HAVING MORE
THAN FOUR QUARTERS PREVENTS ME
FROM RECEIVING INDIGENT SUPPLIES.
ON ANOTHER QUOTE --
FROM ANOTHER WOMAN BEING
INDIGENOUS HUMILIATING BUT I
DON'T HAVE OUTSIDE PEOPLE
SUPPORTING ME IN MY JOB HAS NO
PACE LA.
SO SHE LITERALLY HAS NO FUNDS --
SO I THINK --
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY
FOR A TO CHANGE THE CURRENT
POLICY THE BUSINESS TRIPS PEOPLE
OF VERY VERY BASIC ON CIVIL AND
HUMAN RIGHTS --
AS WELL AS BASICS UP SUPPLIES
THAT THEY NEED AND ALSO ACCESS
TO THE COURT SYSTEM --
SO WE WOULD GET RID OF THE CO
PAYMENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE
LESS A TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS OR
LESS ON THEIR ACCOUNTS --
AND ANOTHER THING I'LL JUST SAY
ON IS THAT --
VISITING WITH SOME OF THE WITH
INCARCERATED WOMEN THAT I VISIT
AFTER THE BILL PASSED THROUGH
THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR RECENTLY TO
SEE THE LOOKS ON THEIR FACE THAT
PEOPLE ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME.
TO TO TO MAKE A POLICY
IMPOSSIBLE PAST POLLS ON THAT
SIDE -- THAT
IS ABOUT YOU KNOW JUST THEIR
BASIC EVERYDAY LIFE --
AND HUMAN RIGHTS IF THEY WERE
JUST SHOCKED AND WE'RE YOU KNOW
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF
SUPPORTING OTHER BILLS AT THAT
SEEM LIKE THEY'RE MUCH BIGGER
AND HARDER TO PASS --
AND BUT THIS ONE WAS THE ONE
THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT MOST SHOCKED
ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE JUST THE
DEGREE OF OF STRIPPING OF THOSE
RIGHT.
MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S QUALITY
SUPPLIES ON AND SO ON THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS FULLER HI GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS SAILOR LIGHT
SO I'M OCCURRING IN --
ORGANIZER FOR CCW PICK
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WOMEN'S
PRISONERS I AM TESTIFYING TO GO
FROM LIVE THEN EXPERIENCE I WAS
FORMING INCARCERATED.
AT CALIFORNIA COALITION I MEAN
I'M SORRY AT THE I. W.
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN
IN CORONA AMENDED EIGHT HUMANIST
SENTENCE THAT --
I JUST WANT WE HONOR RATE WAS HE
SAID A CALLER SOUND UP THERE --
THIS A REQUIREMENTS WORK IF
YOU'RE IN PRISON IMUS TALK
PROGRAMMING SO WE MAKE ABOUT A
STINT WHICH WOULD TAKE US OVER
TO A DOLLAR TOUCH SO.
BAD AND THAT OF MY FELLOW BIG
GET NOT ENOUGH THOUGH STILL
LOOMS -- BY
ADEQUATE YOU KNOW HI Z. FAIR THE
WAY THEY HAVE US THAT OUT
BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD
HAVE LESS THAN A DOLLAR IF
YOU'RE IN PRISON BECAUSE OF A
WORKER.
BUT YET YOU'RE STILL NOT GOING
TO HAPPEN AFTER --
WHICH OR IF YOU'RE LOW INCOME
LIKE I WAS ON PRIOR TO COMING TO
PRISON I WAS FAR FROM A FORMER
FOSTER YOU I'M YOU THOUGHT WHEN
YOU KNOW WHEN THAT THEY'RE NOT
SUPPORT.
SO -- NEW
WAS STILL BE MAKE THAT YOU WON'T
BE MAKING ENOUGH SIR BASICALLY
SUPPORT A NORMAL MONTH BLEED YOU
KNOW HYGIENE BUT YOU KNOW
ADEQUATE ENOUGH SO --
HOW SOME SUPPORT THIS BILL AND I
HAVE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO
BRING SOME THINGS FROM PEOPLE AS
THE EXPERIENCED THEM AT RIGHT
NOW --
CURRENT AND MAY AND I STONE FOR
THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT WAS GONNA
ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEIR
SUPPORTERS SOMEONE AGREED TO
WITH -- WAIT
I AM I WAS VERY GROW PAYER --
THIS IS BECAUSE INDIGENT WORKERS
FARMING.
AND MAKES WORKING FOR A SENSE
AND NOW WE'RE NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO
BUY A FLOWER.
DULLER AND MY CHEST MAKES ME TO
RITZ AND EDUCATE IS OUT OF MY
REACH GETS A BY MY OWN TO BRACE.
IT EVENTUALLY ARCO FOR DAY HAIR
BURNERS NICE IF YOU WERE RAISE
THE LIMIT TOOK THIS EVERYONE
WOULD BE BETTER FOR IT.
WORKING EIGHT HOURS A DAY ONLY
RECIEVE TWENTY NINTH AT THE PAY
RESTITUTION TAKES A PLACE THE
LION'S SHARE KEEP IN THE LOCKER
EMPTY AND BEAR ENCOURAGES
EVERYONE TO DO.
SOME TYPE OF HER SO REGARDLESS
IF THE ANTS AND SOME TYPE A
TUSSLE AMBASSADORS FACTUAL
THINGS ARE GONNA PRESENT YOU ARE
RIDICULED FOR HYGIENE I MEAN HOW
YOU KEEP YOUR SO.
IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD YOU
KNOW ADEQUATE SUPPLIES SO I WANT
TO READ JUST A FEW MARK THINGS
BECAUSE THESE ARE REAL ISSUES
FROM BILL PEOPLE EXPENSE THAT
WHAT WE HAVE FIVE TO FOUR TODAY
SO. ONE PERSON WROTE HOW DO YOU
WANT ME.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS THERE IS
THE DOLLAR OUR LAST.
THIS DOLLAR OR LESS RESULTS THAT
POTENTIAL VIOLENCE AND DIMAS
TOUR ONE IS SELF ESTEEM BECAUSE
OUR TO USE THAT TO NOW THAT WE
ARE AWARE OF WITH FEMALES GO TO
STYLE BELIEVE STRONGLY HOPE YA
TAKE THIS THE CONSIDERATION.
LIKE THAT BEFORE TWENTY FIVE IS
NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE --
FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY STANDS
BUT IT BE MUCH MORE --
YOU KNOW PLEASING AND GET NO
BETTER FOR WOMEN THAT'S ACTUALLY
GOING.
TO GO INTO THIS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AT
THE MIKE IN --
I'LL.
MARGOT GEORGE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDER CSUS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
LIZZY BEACON WITH THE ACLU
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT.
DEREK MORGAN WITH THE OTHER
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
HERE IN SUPPORT.
BUT PUBLIC JIM WOOD BURKE ON
BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE
ON LEGISLATION AND SUPPORT
PACKED.
MILLION LACKS APPIAN WITH THE
YOUTH JUSTICE COALITION CREATED
BY AND FOR FORMALLY AND
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE.
IN STRONG SUPPORT.
REBEKAH GONZALEZ NATIONALIST
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
IF YOU DENY IT ASIAN ACTIVITY
JUST CALIFORNIANS PART.
YOU MEASURE OEMS OAKLAND
RESIDENT AND LOVE ONE OF
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED PERSONS
IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY SEEM NINE ANY COMMENT FUND
THE DYESS.
BOTH THE BILL VERY WE HAVE A
MOTION --
SOME MEMBER WHICH ELECT CLOSE
LAST YEAR ABOUT.
SO WE WILL AND HAPPY PROCOL.
MOTION IS PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS
pBY YOUR AYE HENDERSON.
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON AYE JACKSON
AYE MITCHELL [inaudible]
STONE.
STONE NO WIENER --
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN AND TOUR
AND MISSING MEMBERS WHO ANOTHER
COMMITTEES COME BACK FOR THANK
YOU FOR THE PRESENT IN THE BILL
AND THAT WILL GO TO OUR NEXT
AUTHOR LET'S SEE I'M --
IN ORDER WOULD BE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER [inaudible]
GRAYSON.
SO -- THAT
WOULD BE ITEM FOR A BI.
NINE NINE EIGHT I THOUGHT CHRIS
WAS SERIES NOT HERE QUE HE WAS
HERE EARLIER PARTS OF THEM WE
WILL GO --
TO CUNNINGHAM AND WE'LL GO TO
ITEM FIVE AB SEVENTEEN THIRTY
FIVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER CUNNINGHAM.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR
SENATORS I'M HERE TO PRESENT AB.
SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE SO CURRENT
LAW ALLOWS FOR A TEN YEAR
PROTECTIVE ORDER TO BE ISSUED.
UPON A CONVICTION FOR A NUMBER
OF CRIMES INCLUDING --
FOR TO PROTECT VICTIMS OF SEX
TRAFFICKING AND TO PROTECT
VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
AMONG OTHER THINGS --
THIS BILL WOULD ADD AN IDENTICAL
PROTECTION. FOR VICTIMS OF LABOR
TRAFFICKING AND ADULT VICTIMS OF
PIMPING AND PANDER.
I TWO THINGS TO BEAR IN MIND
THAT I THINK ARE WORTHY OF
CONSIDERATION ONE IS.
THIS ONLY APPLIES IN THE
CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THERE'S AN
ACTUAL CONVICTION THAT IS NOT A
PRE CONVICTION.
STATUTE IT ONLY APPLIES WERE
THERE IS HAS BEEN A CONVICTION
FOR LABOR TRAFFICKING OR PIMPING
PANDERING.
AND THE SECOND.
THING TO KEEP IN MIND MORE
SENATOR IS THAT THIS RETAINS
JUDICIAL DISCRETION A JUDGE.
I MAKES THE DECISION ON WHETHER
A TENURE PROTECTIVE ORDERS
APPROPRIATE IN THE PARTICULAR
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT CASE AT THE
TIME OF SENTENCING.
SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
BOTH SIDES PROSECUTION AND
DEFENSE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT
DURING THE SENTENCING HEARING.
AND THE JUDGE MAKES THE FINAL
DETERMINATION JUST LIKE THE
JUDGE DOES IN UNDER CURRENT LAW
IN THE CASE OF SEX TRAFFICKING.
NOW WITH ME IS JUDY TASKER FROM
THE SAN DIEGO DE IS OFFICE. TO
OFFER SOME INSIGHT AS TO THE
NEED FOR THE BILL.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M JUDY
CASHNER FROM THE SAN DIEGO
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AS PROSECUTORS IN THE SEX CRIMES
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING UNITS WE
SEE FIRSTHAND.
THE DEVASTATION AND DESTRUCTION
BROUGHT ON BY LIFE IN THE WORLD
OF PIMPING PANDERING AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
VULNERABLE VICTIMS ARE SOLD THE
DREAM OF LOVE AND A BETTER LIFE
BY THEIR PIMPS.
YET THEY EXPERIENCE THE OPPOSITE.
THE DYNAMICS OF THIS ARE VERY
SIMILAR TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND VICTIMS AND UP TRAPPED WITH
FEW OTHER OPTIONS.
THE VIABILITY OF GETTING OUT OF
THIS LIFE AND HAVE A BRIGHTER
FUTURE IT CAN DEPEND ON THE
ABILITY TO BREAK FREE OF THE
POWER CONTROL AND MANIPULATION.
OF THE PAN.
AB.
SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE IT'S A
SIMPLE TOOL THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO
OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TO
HELP THESE VICTIMS.
AND TO GIVE THEM THE SPACE THE
FREEDOM AND SECURITY IN ORDER TO
BREAK OUT OF THE LIFE.
AND WHO ARE THESE OTHER VICTIMS
WHO ARE THESE VICTIMS THAT ARE
TRAFFICKED FOR NON SEXUAL
PURPOSES.
THIS BILL APPLIES TO LABOR
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS THESE
VICTIMS ARE MOSTLY IMMIGRANTS
WORKING IN THE U. S. ON
TEMPORARY VISAS.
THEY WORK IN AGRICULTURE
HOSPITALITY CONSTRUCTION IN THE
RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
THEY'VE EXPERIENCED SOME TYPE OF
FORCE FRAUD COERCION WHICH CAN
INCLUDE DOCUMENT FRAUD
WITHHOLDING OF THEIR DOCUMENTS
EXTORTION ABUSE DISCRIMINATION
PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION.
VIOLENCE AND THREATS AGAINST
THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS.
THERE ARE HIGH RATES OF CIVIL
LABOR EXPLOITATION.
WHERE THE EMPLOYER AND THE
TRAFFICKER CONTROLS HOUSING
THEIR FOOD THEIR TRANSPORTATION
AND THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS?
MANY OF THESE FOREIGN WORKERS
ARE LURED BY FALSE PROMISES OF
GOOD JOBS AND BENEFITS.
AND THESE TRAFFICKERS.
OFTEN CAN BE RELATED TO FRIENDS
FAMILY AND THEIR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS.
THESE ARE THE VULNERABLE VICTIMS
THAT WERE SEEKING TO SIMPLY HAVE
INCLUDED IN THIS OPTIONAL
RESTRAINING ORDER POST
CONVICTION TO GIVE JUDGES THE
OPTION OF PROTECTING THEM FOR UP
TO TEN YEARS.
WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO OTHER
VICTIMS AS WELL [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS STAND
FELIZ AUTO ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.
AS CHAIRMAN RANGE SHERMAN WITH
THE RIVERSIDE SHRIFF'S
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
MICHELLE PRODUCT MICHELLE THOMAS
SHOT RIVERS IN OUT ME COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY NEEDS O'MALLEY
IN SUPPORT.
THE MORNING CHRIS WARD CRIME
VICTIMS ACTION ALLIANCE AND
CITIZENS FOR LAW AND ORDER IN
SUPPORT.
A JOHN LEVEL LOS ANGELES COUNTY
UP PROFESSIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION.
OF CALIFORNIA OF COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION AND CALIFORNIA
NARCOTICS OFFICERS ASSOCIATION
ALL IN SUPPORT.
OUR COURSES ALONG BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TEACHERS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT OUR YOUR MEMBERS
JONATHAN FELDMAN CALIFORNIA
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT.
JOHN OFTEN WITH CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
DO WE HAVE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
IF YOU COULD COME ON UP TO BE
GREAT
.
GO AHEAD WHEN YOU'RE READY.
GOOD MORNING CATHY SURE FOR THE
ACLU OF CALIFORNIA WE
RESPECTFULLY MUST OPPOSE AB.
SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE UNDER
PENAL CODE ONE THIRTY SIX POINT
TO A CRIMINAL COURT HAS THE
POWER TO EXTEND ITS JURISDICTION
OVER A DEFENDANT FOR A PERIOD
THAT MAY EXTEND FAR LONGER THEN
THE DEFENDANT'S SENTENCE OR TERM
OF PROBATION.
BY IMPOSING AN ORDER RESTRAINING
THE DEFENDANT FROM CONTACT WITH
THE VICTIM FOR UP TO TEN YEARS.
THESE ORDERS CAN HAVE A NEGATIVE
IMPACT ON THE DEFENDANT'S
ABILITY TO RE INTEGRATE INTO THE
COMMUNITY.
AS A DEFENDANT MAY RISK
VIOLATING THE ORDER
UNINTENTIONALLY IF HE RETURNS TO
THE VICINITY WHERE THE VICTIM
LIVES AND WHERE THE DEFENDANT'S
FAMILY AND FRIENDS MAY ALSO LIVE.
DURING THE TIME THE ORDER
REMAINS IN EFFECT THE DEFENDANT
PUT FACES POTENTIAL FURTHER
PENALTIES INCLUDING TIME IN JAIL
OR PRISON FOR A VIOLATION OF THE
ORDER.
BECAUSE THIS POWER IS SO
EXPANSIVE THE CLASS OF CASES IN
WHICH IT CAN BE EXERCISED IS
NARROWLY DEFINED IN THE STATUTE
INCLUDING ONLY SPECIFIED
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES
SPECIFIED SEX CRIMES AND GANG
RELATED CRIMES.
IN THESE CASES AND ONLY IN THESE
CASES HAS THE CONTINUING RISK
TWO VICTIMS YEARS AFTER THEY THE
OFFENDER HAS BEEN RELEASED FROM
PRISON OR IS NO LONGER ON
PROBATION.
BEEN CONSIDERED SO GREAT AS TO
WARRANT THE EXTENSION OF THE
COURT'S JURISDICTION OVER A
DEFENDANT FOR THAT LONG EXTENDED
PERIOD OF TIME.
WITHOUT LEGISLATIVE RESTRAINT AS
TO THE TYPES OF CRIMES FOR WHICH
A RESTRAINING ORDER MAYBE ISSUED.
SECTION ONE THIRTY SIX POINT TO
WILL BECOME AN AVENUE FOR
LENGTHY CRIMINAL JURISDICTION
OVER MORE AND MORE DEFENDANTS.
THE END RESULT WILL BE MORE
PEOPLE REMAINING SUBJECT TO
CRIMINAL COURT ORDERS FOR LONG
PERIODS OF TIME AND MORE PEOPLE
RETURN TO PRISON OR JAIL FOR
VIOLATIONS OF THESE ORDERS.
EVEN WHEN THERE HAS BEEN NO HARM
TO THE VICTIM OR TO ANYONE ELSE.
WE ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE ON AB.
SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE THANK YOU GOOD
MORNING MARCO GEORGE FROM THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION --
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS PROTECTING
VULNERABLE VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING WITH PROTECTIVE
ORDERS WHEN ITS WARRANTED.
BUT SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE IS NOT
THE SOLUTION. SEVENTEEN THIRTY
FIVE IS NOT NEEDED AS MISS SHARE
ALREADY --
OUTLINE THERE ARE OTHER MEANS TO
PROTECT PEOPLE.
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A
SHOULD JUST BE CALLED SLAVERY
BUT NEWMAN TRAFFICKING PIMPING
AND PANDERING OF ADULTS RANGES
FROM FORCED LABOR.
SEWING AND ANGELES SWEAT SHOPS.
TO FORCED LABOR IN THE MARIJUANA
FEELS IN CALAVERAS COUNTY. TO
FORCED PROSTITUTION ON THE
STREETS OF OAKLAND SO THERE'S
NOT JUST [inaudible]
ONE KIND OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HERE IT IS A SPECTRUM AND IT IS
HAS DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS AND
DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
PEOPLE.
IN MANY INSTANCES THE
RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE
VICTIMS AND THE DEFENDANT'S ARE
FLEETING NONEXISTENT OR MINIMAL
AT BEST.
AND SOME CASES THAT I'VE HAD THE
DEFENDANT DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE
VICTIM'S NAME BEFORE SHE WS
SERVED WITH OF THE PROTECTIVE
ORDER.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT MY
CLIENT KNEW WHO THE PERSON WAS
OTHERWISE THEY HAD SOME STREET
NAME OR NICKNAME OR WHATEVER --
PROBATION ALREADY AND PAROLE.
ALREADY CAN IMPOSE.
STAY AWAY AND NO CONTACT ORDERS
AS CONDITION OF PROBATION OR
PAROLE.
AND SO WHEN SOMEONE GETS OUT OF
JAIL OR PRISON.
BAY NORMALLY HAVE A LENGTHY
PERIOD OF PROBATION OR PAROLE.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THE CONSEQUENCES
OF HAVING A RESTRAINING ORDER?
ON CAN BE SO SEVERE WHEN IT'S
NOT CONVICTED CONNECTED TO THE
VICTIMS NEEDS IT JUST BECOMES
FURTHER PUNISHMENT.
IT LIMITS YOUR ABILITY TO TRAVEL.
YOU'RE ABILITY TO GO TO CERTAIN
PLACES OR DO CERTAIN THINGS.
IT MAY AFFECT YOUR RIGHT TO OWN
PROPERTY YOU MAY BE FORCED OUT
OF YOUR OWN HOME.
IT CAN AFFECT YOUR IMMIGRATION
STATUS IF YOU VIOLATE THE COURT
ORDER -- IT
WHICH IS A PORT DEPORTABLE
OFFENSE.
SO COULD RESULT IN PERMANENT
BANISHMENT.
YOU MAY NOT OWN A GUN.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE
PEOPLE WILL BE GETTING OUT OF
PRISON AND JAIL IT HINDERS THEIR
REHABILITATION AND REINTEGRATION
INTO THE COMMUNITY BY SEPARATING
THEM FROM THEIR FAMILY OR
FRIENDS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE TEN YEAR
PROTECTIVE ORDER ONE SIZE FITS
ALL WITH FURTHER PUNISH THE
DEFENDANT WHILE DOING NOTHING TO
ENSURE THE VICTIMS SAFETY AND
WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR NO VOTE.
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MEMBERS WHO HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS --
ASSEMBLY MEMBER OUR AREA
[inaudible]
NIKE.
NOW WE HAVE OUR LOT OF PEOPLE
MOVING IN OFF THE TIRES WERE ALL
PRESENT IN OUR OWN BILLS AND
OTHER COMMITTEES.
SO IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF
ATTENTION IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE
BEING PULLED IN DIFFERENT
DIRECTIONS SO I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT IT WAS GOING AN
OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS BILL.
BY ONE MAKE SURE THE AUDIENCE
UNDERSTOOD WHY PEOPLE ARE
GETTING A COMMITMENT COMING
GOING [inaudible]
ARE.
IF YOU WOULD MIND I LIKE TO BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR IN IF YOU
ARE I WOULD GO AHEAD AND CLOSE
SYMBOL.
HAD VOTE.
CERTAINLY AND I WOULD TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY CLOSING TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP.
A FIRST THE JUDICIAL DISCRETION
PIECES IS CRITICAL AND JUST LIKE
IN THE SIT IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE
OF SEX TRAFFICKING.
THE JUDGE AT THE TIME OF
SENTENCING MAKES THE FINAL
DETERMINATION OF WHETHER UNDER
THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES OF
THAT CASE.
ATTEND YOUR ORDERS WARRANTED
VERSES A SHORT ORDER SO SO I
THINK.
SOME OF THE CONCERNS RAZOR DRESS
BY THE FACT THAT IT.
JUDICIAL OFFICERS MAKING THE
FINAL DETERMINATION AND IF IT IS
AN APPROPRIATE THAT PARTICULAR
CASE THEN COUNSEL FOR THE FOR
THE DEFENDANT HAS EVERY
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT
ARGUMENT.
AT THE TIME OF SENTENCING AND TO
VIOLATE ONE OF THESE PROTECTIVE
ORDERS IT HAS TO BE BY
DEFINITION IN THE STATUTE
INTENTIONAL OR OR WILLFUL
VIOLATION.
AN ACCIDENT A VIOLATION YOU SHOW
UP IN A MOVIE THEATER.
THE VICTIM THAT'S PROTECTED
HAPPENS TO BE THERE THAT DOESN'T
COUNT YOU COULD NEVER GET THAT
CASE FILE THE PROSECUTOR IN
COURT.
OF WHAT TO WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING
TO DO BY.
ALLOWING VICTIMS OF LABOR
TRAFFICKING. TEN YEARS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY. TO REBUILD THEIR
LIVES THIS IS A GLOBAL.
ENTERPRISE THAT THE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING EPIDEMIC IS
ESTIMATED TO BE A HUNDRED AND
FORTY BILLION DOLLAR CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISE WORLDWIDE.
A YEAR HUNDRED AND FORTY BILLION
DOLLARS [inaudible]
IT'S GROWING.
FASTER THAN ANY OTHER TYPE OF
CRIME.
AND WE'RE SIMPLY THE WITNESS
MADE A GREAT POINT HUMAN
TRAFFICKING COMES IN ALL SORTS
OF VARIOUS FORMS.
SO WHY WOULD WE WANT HAVE AN
ANOMALY IN THE LAW WHERE A
CERTAIN CATEGORY QUALIFIES THE
VICTIM FOR TENURE PROTECTIVE
ORDER HADN'T SOMETHING LABELED
UNDER A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
DOES NOT WE'RE SEEKING JUST TO
SIMPLY ALIGN THAT SO THE VICTIMS
CAN HAVE THE CHANCE TO REBUILD
THEIR LIVES AWAY FROM THE PERSON.
WHO ABUSED AND MANIPULATED THEM
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE?
I HAVE SINNERS DO I HAVE A
MOTION FROM SOMEONE.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR STONE.
AND NOW USES HEADED TO APPROACH
IT. TWO DASH MR SENTIMENT AB I
LIKE TO BE ADDED IS COAUTHOR
FUSELAGE RETAINED AS WELL THANK
YOU BOTH COURSE.
NOW IF YOU GO AND TAKE THE CALL
VOTE.
RUSSIA IS THE PAST JUDICIARY
SKINNER.
ANDERSON OUR PERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL.
STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER.
THE PHONE BOOK AND PUT IT ON
CALL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND YOU. TO SURF NEXT
[inaudible]
OKAY [inaudible]
CERVANTES.
HERE TO HEAR ME FOR PRESENTING --
AB [inaudible]
EIGHTEEN EIGHTY TWO SEC
[inaudible]
GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME TO PRESENT AB EIGHTEEN EIGHTY
TWO TODAY.
AND TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
CALIFORNIA HAD OVER THIRTEEN
HUNDRED INCIDENCES OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING WHICH IS MORE THAN
DOUBLE WHAT ANY OTHER STATE
EXPERIENCED.
LOS ANGELES SAN FRANCISCO SAN
DIEGO AND SACRAMENTO ARE OFTEN
CITED AS BEING AMONGST THE
BIGGEST HUMAN TRAFFICKING HUBS
IN THE NATION.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING
GIVEN THAT SO MANY CASES OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING GO UNREPORTED.
IN LATE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR A
REGIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK
FORCE BASE OUT OF LA ARRESTED
MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SUSPECTS IN A STING
OPERATION.
AS PART OF THAT OPERATION LONG
FORSMAN OFFICIALS SET UP A DECOY
ACCOUNT ON FACEBOOK AND OTHER
ONLINE PLATFORMS.
THEY WERE TAKEN ABACK BY THE
AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THESE ACCOUNTS
GENUINE GENERATED.
AND IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR AND
ALERT AMERICAN AIRLINES EMPLOYEE
AT THE SACRAMENTO INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT NOTICE I TWO TEENAGE
GIRLS WITHOUT ID'S WERE ABOUT TO
BOARD A FLIGHT TO NEW YORK CITY.
WITH NO RETURN FLIGHT BUT THESE
TEENS WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD
BE PAID FOR MODELLING AND BE IN
THE MUSIC VIDEOS BY A GENTLEMAN
THEY MET THEIR INSTAGRAM.
THE SPECIFIC INCIDENCES POINT TO
AN ALARMING TREND IN HUMAN
TRAFFICKERS A BETTER USING THE
INTERNET --
AND POPULAR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES
SUCH AS FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM
TO LURE POTENTIAL VICTIMS.
AB EIGHTEEN EIGHTY TWO WILL MAKE
IT A FELONY TO CONTACT A MINOR
WITH THE INTENT TO ENGAGE IN
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
THIS BILL WILL HELP LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMBAT THE GROWING
USE OF INTERNET BY HUMAN
TRAFFICKERS AND PROVIDE.
A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT IS A
SOLUTION TO CALIFORNIA'S HUMAN
TRAFFICKING PROBLEMS TODAY WITH
ME TO TESTIFY IS ALAMEDA COUNTY.
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT
WE HAVE S. DD A GOOD MORNING AND
CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ALL THE LUIS I'M A
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN
ALAMEDA COUNTY HERE ON BEHALF OF
DISTRICT ATTORNEY NANCY O'MALLEY
ONE OF THE BILL'S SPONSORS.
THIS BILL WOULD MAKE IT A CRIME
FOR A PERSON TO CONTACT OR
COMMUNICATE WITH A MINOR WITH
THE INTENT TO COMMIT HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
IT WOULD BRING CALIFORNIA INTO
ALIGNMENT WITH THE FINDINGS OF
SUCH ORGANIZATIONS AS THE UNITED
NATIONS THE AMERICAN BAR
ASSOCIATION THE U. S. C.
ANNENBERG CENTER WHICH ARE ALL
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE STUDIED.
AND RECOGNIZE THE DIRE THREAT
THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING PREDATORS
POSE TO OUR CHILDREN ON THE
INTERNET.
OUR OFFICE IS BEEN IN THE
FOREFRONT OF THE STATE.
A FOR FRENCH IN THE STATE AND AT
THE NATIONAL LEVEL TO COMBAT
CHILD EXPLOITATION SINCE TWO
THOUSAND AND FIVE WE HAVE LED A
STATE AND NATIONAL EFFORTS TO
EDUCATE AND BRING AWARENESS TO
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITIES AND POLICY MAKERS
THAT FAR TOO MANY OF OUR
CHILDREN ARE BEING TRAFFICKED
AND EXPLOITED.
THROUGH THE HEAT WATCH THAT
STANDS FOR HUMAN EXPLOITATION
TRAFFICKING AND THE HEAT
INSTITUTE WE'VE INCREASED THE
FOCUS ON THE PURCHASERS AND MATT
HAS ALLOW FOR US TO BE ABLE TO
RECOGNIZE THE USE OF THE
INTERNET TO LURE CHILDREN.
INTO A DESTRUCTIVE ASSAULTIVE
SITUATION WHERE EXPLOITATION CAN
OCCUR.
MY OFFICE RECENTLY WORKED ON THE
CASE WERE DEFENDING GRUND A
THIRTEEN YEAR OLD A VICTIM OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING 1100% ON THE
INTERNET THAT MEANS HE MET HER
VIA INSTAGRAM HE DEVELOPED A
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER.
USING THAT APPLICATION HE WARNED
HER TO A LOCAL LOCATION TO
CONTACT HER AND IN THE SAME DAY
THAT HE MADE THAT PERSONAL
CONTACT HE TRAFFIC TOUR HE SOLD
HER IN THE COMMUNITY UP FOR SEX --
CHILDREN ARE PARTICULARLY
VULNERABLE TO ONLINE GROOMING IN
LURING FOR THE PURPOSES OF
SEXUAL EXPLOITATION THEY DON'T
APPRECIATE IN THE SAME WAY THAT
ADULTS DO.
THAT THESE RELATIONSHIPS HAVE
ALL TEARY YOUR MOTIVES.
THIS BILL PROTECTS CHILDREN FROM
THOSE WHO LURE THEM OUT FOR THE
PURPOSES OF SEXUAL GRATIFICATION
EXISTING LAW MAKES IT A CRIME
FOR PERSON A CONTACTED MINOR
WITH THE INTENT TO COMMIT.
OF OFFENSES INVOLVING MINORS
THAT INCLUDE KIDNAPPING AND RAPE
A. B. EIGHTEEN EIGHTY TO SIMPLY
INCLUDES HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL TOOL FOR
LAWENFORCEMENT WHEN DEFENDANTS
I USE THE INTERNET FOR THESE
UNLAWFUL PURPOSES.
ON BEHALF OF THE ALAMEDA COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WE
REFER RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT
YOU VOTE [inaudible]
A YES. FOR THIS LEGISLATION
THANK YOU.
WE'VE BEEN ON THE WITNESS
[inaudible]
WHERE WE?
WOULDN'T.
GO AHEAD.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DANVILLE
IS OUT ON BEHALF THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE IN SUPPORT.
A FRENCHMAN WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION ALSO IN
SUPPORT.
CHRISTINE WARD CRIME VICTIMS
ACTION ALLIANCE AND CITIZENS FOR
LAW AND ORDER IN SUPPORT.
BUT SHOT UP IN THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT.
JOHN LEVEL ASSOCIATION OF DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS --
CALIFORNIA COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND LA
COUNTY PROFESSIONAL PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION ALL IN
SUPPORT.
PART COURCELLES ALONE BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT OF DO HAVE
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES SOME
SUPPORT HOW BOUT WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
HE DIDN'T COME RIGHT DOWN TO THE
TABLE
.
KATHY SURE FOR THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA.
WE RESPECTFULLY POSE AB EIGHTEEN
EIGHTY TWO BECAUSE IT
UNNECESSARILY CREATES NEW CRIME
ADDRESSING BEHAVIOR THAT IS
ALREADY CRIMINAL UNDER EXISTING
LAW.
PENAL CODE SECTION TWO THIRTY
SIX POINT ONE PROVIDES THAT A
PERSON WHO CAUSES INDUCES
PERSUADES OR ATTEMPTS TO CAUSE
INDUCER PERSUADE.
A MINOR TO ENGAGE IN A
COMMERCIAL SEX ACT.
WITH THE INTENT TO AFFECT A
VIOLATION OF SPECIFIED
PROVISIONS IS GUILTY OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
A DEFENDANT WHO COMMUNICATES
WITH A MINOR IN AN ATTEMPT TO
INDUCE THE MINOR TO ENGAGE IN A
COMMERCIAL SEX ACT IS GUILTY OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
UNDER THIS PROVISION THE
DEFENDANT WHO TOOK THE A DIRECT
ACTION TOWARDS SUCH.
COMMUNICATION BUT FAILED TO
CARRY IT OUT WOULD BE GUILTY OF
ATTEMPTED HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
WE POSE AB EIGHTEEN EIGHTY TWO
BECAUSE IT WOULD UNNECESSARILY
FURTHER COMPLICATE CALIFORNIA'S
CRIMINAL LAWS AND DOES SO WITH
NO SHOWING THAT WILL IN IN THAT
IT WILL IN ANY WAY HELP TO
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING WE ARE JOURNAL VOTE.
THANK YOU YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
NARAL.
DO IT YOU DO HAVE A MOTION.
BOUDREAU IN --
LIVING QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING
EARTH.
ONLY TWO OF US HERE SOGAR
STRETCHERED OUT THE I'D LIKE TO
HEAR IS A CO AUTHOR IF YOU WOULD
MIND IAN --
IF YOU WOULD MIND CLOSING EVERY
TRAFFIC ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU SO
MUCH I JUST TO NOTE NOT ALL
HUMAN TRAFFICKERS DIRECTLY
COMMIT KIDNAPPING OR RAPE.
AS PART OF THEIR ILLICIT
ACTIVITIES AT THIS LOOPHOLE
COULD ALLOW HUMAN TRAFFICKERS TO
AVOID PROSECUTION IF THEY DO NOT
MANIFEST THE INTENT TO COMMIT
KIDNAPPING TO RAPE.
ABOUT OTHERWISE AID IN
SOLICITING AS YOU HEARD OR
ENTRAPPING A MINOR INTO HUMAN
TRAFFICKING RINGS I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FREE AYE VOTE.
SO IS THIS --
WORSE IS HEADED NEXT.
APPROACHED SO IF YOU WOULD GO
AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL THAT THE
TRAFFIC BRUSHES TO PASS HER
PREPARATION SKINNER.
ANDERSON I ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL.
STONE.
DOWN AYE WIENER.
IT WILL PUT THIS ON CALL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S TO THE CONCERNED.
GOING TO THE CONSENT
[inaudible]
MOVE.
THANK YOU IF YOUR DAD GO AHEAD
AND CALL VOTE [inaudible]
WIENER.
ANDERSON ARE ANDERSON AYE
BRADFORD JACKSON MITCHELL STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER.
OPEN THEN CALL THANK YOU.
YOUR FOR YOUR A MEMBER HERE
LISTENING ARE THIS SHOULD BE A
GOOD TIME TO COME DOWN TO PUBLIC
SAFETY.
THE STORES OPEN AND WE'RE REYES
SERVE [inaudible]
IF.
IN ART Y. WE HAVE A FEW MOMENTS
LET'S REOPEN OUR ITEM NUMBER.
ONE AND ALLOW MEMBERS STARED
DOWN.
AND SEE STONE [inaudible]
STONE NOW [inaudible]
SIMILAR.
THE BILL OF THEM OKAY A FIVE TO
THE CAR AB NINE THIRTY ONE IS
NOW OUT.
FIVE TWO AND CAN WE REOPEN --
ITEM NUMBER.
THREE THE MOTION WAS THE PASTOR
APPROPRIATIONS ANDERSON ARE BOTH
GOT NO IDEA YES I AM SORRY
HENDERSON HIGH [inaudible]
BONTA CONFUSION [inaudible]
OKAY.
OKAY MOVING THE THAT OPEN THANKS
VERY MUCH
.
THAT'S WHERE HIDDEN O. TWENTY
FOUR AB TWENTY FIVE THIRTY THREE
STONE.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS ANDERSON NO
ANDERSON NOW [inaudible]
SECOND CLICK.
IT'S THE THAT OPEN.
HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN
AND TELL.
WE THRUST RECESS.
OKAY WE'RE GOING TO RECESS TILL
ONE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA RETURN
TO ROOM.
ONE THIRTEEN SO THANK YOU ALL
SEE IT WHEN. ONE O'CLOCK
I'M SORRY YOU'LL NOTE THAT
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER
COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF A NOT A LOT
OF OTHER ONE THE DIETS BUT IT'S
OKAY BECAUSE WE ARE IN RECESS.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER COMMITTEES
GOING ON AS YOU KNOW SO THERE
ARE MEMBERS EITHER CHEERING OR
PRESIDE AT CHARING OR PRESENTING
AT COMMITTEES.
THEY WILL RETURN SO WE WILL GO
TO ITEM TWO MISTER BOND TO SPILL
APOLOGIES MISTER GRATION BUT
YOU'LL BE FOLLOWING.
WE WILL FOLLOW THAT.
MR BROUGHT TO YOU MAY PROCEED
[inaudible]
YEAH [inaudible] TO PRESENT.
AB.
THREE CALIFORNIA LAW CURRENTLY
REQUIRES A PERSON TO BE TWENTY
ONE TO PURCHASE A HANDGUN ONLY
REQUIRES A PERSON TO BE.
EIGHTEEN TO PURCHASE ALL OTHER
GUNS AB THREE AIMS TO REDUCE GUN
VIOLENCE BY BRINGING THAT SAME
COMMON SENSE POLICY. TOO LONG
GUNS RIFLES SHOT GUNS LOWER
RECEIVERS AND AMMUNITION OVER
THE YEARS LONG GUNS HAVE CHANGE
THEY AREN'T JUST YOUR
GRANDFATHER'S TWELVE GAUGE SHOT
GUN IN THE CLOSET ANYMORE TODAY
SEMI AUTOMATIC GUNS ARE MORE
POWERFUL.
AND MORE LETHAL AB THREE BRINGS
PARITY TO CALIFORNIA'S GUN LAWS
AND RECOGNIZES THE FACT THAT
YOUNG ADULTS AGES EIGHTEEN TO
TWENTY ARE STATISTICALLY FAR
MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT.
HOMICIDES THAN OLDER ADULTS
ACCORDING TO THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
FBI.
SUPPLEMENTARY HOW HOMICIDE
REPORTS ADULTS EIGHTEEN TO
TWENTY REPRESENT 4% OF THE
POPULATION BUT COMMIT 17% OF GUN
HOMICIDE.
COMPANIES LIKE DICK'S SPORTING
GOODS IN WALMART RECENTLY
CHANGED THEIR POLICIES TO NO
LONGER SELL FIREARMS OR
AMMUNITION TO CUSTOMERS UNDER
TWENTY ONE YEARS OF AGE.
WE ALREADY HAVE LAWS THAT
DISTINGUISHED RIGHTS FOR PEOPLE
BETWEEN AGES EIGHTEEN AND TWENTY
ONE CANNOT PURCHASE ALCOHOL
TOBACCO OR DON'T USE CANNABIS
UNTIL YOU'RE.
TWENTY ONE AND AS WE DISCUSSED
ALREADY YOU CAN PURCHASE A
HANDGUN EITHER WE TAKE THE STEPS
FOR FURTHER.
IMPORTANT HEALTH AND SAFETY
REASONS I BELIEVE MAYBE THREE IS
A SOUND POLICY WILL MAKE A
DIFFERENCE IT WILL HELP SAVE THE
LIVES OF OUR FAMILIES FRIENDS
AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH ME
HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF AB.
THREE IS AMANDA WILCOX WITH
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
IN ALICE IN ANDERMAN WITH THE
GIFFORDS LAW CENTER TO PREVENT
GUN VIOLENCE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION A RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR I FELT.
A GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN AMANDA
WILCOX ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS.
ON OF THE BRADY CAMPAIGN TO
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE.
THE BRADY CAMPAIGN HAS LONG
SUPPORTED --
THE CONCEPT OF HAVING PARITY
BETWEEN HAND GUN LAWS AND LONG
LONG GUN LAWS.
ARE BOTH NATIONALLY LIKE THAT OF
COURSE IN CALIFORNIA WE ACTUALLY
HAVE INCREMENTALLY BEEN ARMED.
CREATING MORE PARITY WITHIN OUR
LOSS AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER SAID.
MODERN DAY SPORTING RIFLES ARE --
NOW CAN BE HIGH POWERED SEMI
AUTOMATIC WEAPONS WITH
EXCHANGEABLE MAGAZINES THAT ARE
AS LETHAL OR MORE LETHAL THAN
HAND GUNS.
ON ADDITIONALLY ARE ONE OF THE
WEAPONS OF CHOICE NOW JOB THAT'S
CONSIDERED A LONG GUN IS THE
LOWER RECEIVER AND THOSE CAN BE
BUILT UP INTO A MILITARY STYLE
TYPE WEAPONS.
THAT ARE ALSO VERY --
THE FULL AND DANGEROUS SO WE SEE
NO REASON FOR HANDGUNS AND LONG
GUNS TO BE TREATED SEPARATELY
BUT THIS BILL DOES ACTUALLY
TREAT THEM DIFFERENTLY.
I'M UNDER THE SPELL OF ONE HAS
TO BE AGE TWENTY ONE TO PURCHASE
A LONG GUN BUT THIS BILL DOES
NOT POSSESS BAND POSSESSION.
OF A LONG GONE BY SOMEONE UNDER
TWENTY ONE AND DOES NOT PROHIBIT
INTRA FAMILY TRANSFER OF A LONG
GUN.
ON THIS ARM.
OPTION WOULD ALLOW ADDITIONAL
SCREENING BY A FAMILY MEMBER
FATHER FOR EXAMPLE WHO
PRESUMABLY AND HOPEFULLY WOULD
pHAVE SOME SENSE I'M ABOUT THE
MATURITY IN RESPONSE TO BE LEVEL
RESPONSIBILITY OF ON HIS SON OR
DAUGHTER BEFORE TRANSFERRING
HAND GUNS SO THAT TRANSFER IS
ALLOWED. TO PROCEED BUT WE WOULD
HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE EXTRA
SCREENING ON BY THE FAMILY
MEMBER.
I'M THE DATA IS VERY CLEAR THAT
I THOSE UNDER AGE TWENTY ONE ARE
DISPROPORTIONATELY.
LINK TO CRIME AND LINK TO
HOMICIDE I THINK MY COLLEAGUE
HERE WILL GO MORE INTO THE DATA.
ARE BUT IT IS COMMON SENSE AND
CERTAINLY WE RECOGNIZE AND OTHER
AT THIS AND OTHER AREAS IN TERMS
OF PROHIBIT PROHIBITION AGAINST
ALCOHOL READING A CAR IN OF
COURSE PURCHASING A HANDGUN FOR
UNDER.
TWENTY ONE THOSE UNDER TWENTY
ONE THEM ASIAN ARM DID A PRESS
RELEASE LAST WEDNESDAY.
AND TOOK ON THE STAFF OF THE NET
AMENDING THEIR POLICY ON
FIREARMS AND THEY HAVE NOW
ADOPTED NEW POLICY WHICH IS
SUPPORTING.
THEY SUPPORT BANNING THE
POSSESSION AND USE OF FIREARMS
AND AMMUNITION BY UNSUB WHO
PROVIDES USE UNDER THE AGE OF
TWENTY ONE AND THEY SUPPORT
BANNING THE SALES OF FIREMAN
AMMUNITION FROM LICENSED AND
UNLICENSED DEALERS. TO THOSE
UNDER AGE TWENTY ONE THIS BILL
DOES THAT AND THE BRADY CAMPAIGN
URGES YOUR I. VOTE THANK YOU
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I'M
ALISON AND REMAIN AN ATTORNEY AT
GIFFORD'S LAW CENTER TO PREVENT
GUN VIOLENCE ON BEHALF OF OUR
ORGANIZATION I URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT AB --
THREE AS DISCUSSED AB THREE
WOULD PROHIBIT LICENSED GUN
DEALERS FROM SELLING OR
TRANSFERRING LONG GUNS TO
INDIVIDUALS UNDER TWENTY ONE
YEARS OF AGE.
YOUNG ADULTS AGES EIGHTEEN TO
TWENTY SUCH AS THE SANDY HOOK
AND MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS
SHOOTERS.
ARE AT DISPROPORTIONATE RISK OF
COMMITTING GUN VIOLENCE.
AND ACCORDING TO DATA THESE
YOUNG ADULTS ARE ALSO AT HIGHER
RISK FOR COMMAND COMMITTING
VIOLENT CRIME IN GENERAL.
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY FIVE YEAR
OLDS ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST RATES
OF SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS AND
SUICIDE ATTEMPTS PEAK BETWEEN
THE AGES OF SIXTEEN AND TWENTY
ONE THE RAISING THE AGE TO
PURCHASE LONG GUNS TO TWENTY ONE
COULD REDUCE SUICIDES BY THIS
GROUP. EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY YEAR
OLDS ARE THE ONLY GROUP THAT DIE
BY SUICIDE USING A LONGER AND
MORE OFTEN THAN WITH A HANDGUN.
AND THIS IS LIKELY BECAUSE LONG
AGE GROUP TO GACKT AND HAND GUNS.
AND REALLY THIS BILL IS ABOUT
OVERSIGHT IT'S ABOUT ENSURING
THAT IF SOMEONE IN THIS AGE
GROUP BUYS A FIRE ARM SOMEONE
KNOWS THAT THEY'VE DONE OR I'M
SORRY SOMEONE OBTAINS THE
FIREARM SOMEONE KNOWS THAT
THEY'VE DONE IT.
I AM AND SO IF THEY BEGIN ACTING
DANGEROUSLY THAT PERSON CAN
INTERVENE TO TAKE THE WEAPONS
AWAY BUT IF WE LET.
THIS AGE GROUP THAT IS A
DISPROPORTIONATE RISK OF
COMMITTING GUN VIOLENCE HOW A BE
ABLE TO PURCHASE GUNS WITHOUT.
ANY FAMILY OR COMMUNITY MEMBER
NO AND AND THERE'S VERY FEW
OPTIONS TO INTERVENE.
I'M ALSO CONSERVATIVE FLORIDA
GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT IMMEDIATELY
ENACTED THIS POLICY IN RESPONSE
TO THE PARKLAND SHOOTING.
SO BECAUSE THIS BILL WOULD
ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY IN A
MODEST AND REASONABLE WAY I URGE
YOU TO VOTE I OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
REBECCA GONZALEZ VOLUNTEER WITH
THE BRADY CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT
GUN VIOLENCE SACRAMENTO VALLEY
VALLEY CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
COLIN QUICK BAY AREA STUDENT
ACTIVISTS IN SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT.
ARE THE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION --
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD.
DIARY WITH NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION ALSO HERE.
OFFERS THE RPA TODAY AND STRONG
OPPOSITION.
TO EIGHTY THREE AS WAS MENTIONED
ASSEMBLY BILL THREE WOULD RAISE
THE AGE TO TWENTY ONE TO
PURCHASE FIREARMS.
AMMUNITION AND ALSO TO BE ABLE
TO GET A SERIAL NUMBER FOR A
HOME BUILT FIREARM.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN
HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADULTS
PEOPLE ARE OLD ENOUGH TO SERVE
IN THE MILITARY TO VOTE.
AND TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS
IN LIFE.
AND THIS IS EFFECTIVELY GOING TO
PROHIBIT THEM FROM EXERCISING
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
BECAUSE ALL GUN TRANSACTIONS IN
CALIFORNIA ARE FORCED TO GO
THROUGH A DEALER TO DEALER WOULD
BE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT
[inaudible]
ALSO.
IT COVERS AMMUNITION.
AND SO HERE YOU COULD HAVE
SOMEONE THAT LAWFULLY POSSESS A
FIREARM IS AN ADULT LIVING ON
THEIR OWN.
MAYBE THEY MOVED HERE FROM OUT
OF STATE.
AND THEY COULD NOT.
BUY AMMUNITION FOR THEIR FIREARM
THEY COULDN'T.
SIMPLY ENGAGING SPORTING
ACTIVITIES OR EVEN HUNTING.
EVEN IF THEY LET'S SAY THEY
MOVED HERE WITH THEIR FARMS YOU
CAN'T BRING AMMUNITION UNDER OUR
NEW LAWS PROP SIXTY THREE OR SB
TWELVE THIRTY FIVE YOU CAN BRING
THAT INFORMATICS STATE.
AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A PARENT
HERE TO BE ABLE TO BUY THAT FOR
THEM SO THEY WOULD.
REALLY BE OUT ON THE ROUND.
AND SO ON WITH HIS HUNTING
ASPECT OF ONE THING TO CONSIDER
IS THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A
NEGATIVE IMPACT.
ON CONSERVATION IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO
SEE --
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY YEAR OLDS WHO
ARE NOT GONNA ENGAGE IN HUNTING
IF THEY CAN'T SECURE THE
APPROPRIATE.
TOOLS TO GO OUT AND HUNT
FIREARMS AMMUNITION.
AND THAT'S IN TURN WE'RE GONNA
HAVE LICENSE SALES GO DOWN WHICH
IS THERE'S THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF HUNTERS THAT ARE
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY YEARS OLD
[inaudible]
AND THOSE HUNTING LICENSE
NUMBERS ARE I'M DIRECTLY.
RELATED TO OUR PITTMAN ROBERTSON
DOLLARS AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO
ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM AND
ROBERTS AND IT'S 11%.
EXCISE TAXES THE FEDERAL EXCISE
TAX IT'S ON ALL FIREARMS
AMMUNITION.
AND THAT MONEY GOES INTO
CONSERVATION PROJECTS TO PROVE
TO PROMOTE WILDLIFE.
AND THEN THAT MONEY IS DOLED OUT
FOR THESE PROJECTS SO NOW YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF
PEOPLE THAT ARE EIGHTEEN TO
TWENTY YEARS OLD WHO ARE NOT
BUYING FIREARMS AMMUNITION WHICH
IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT
FUND. FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL
AS A PROBABLY NOT GONNA ENGAGE
IN THE HUNTING ACTIVITIES IF.
THEY HAVE TO GO HAVE A PARENT OR
SOMEONE.
ON PURCHASE AMMUNITION AND IF
THEY'RE HAVING SOMEONE THAT'S
MAYBE NOT A FAMILY MEMBER THAN
THEY'RE ENGAGING IN A CRIME
BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING A STRAW
PURCHASE SO.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
WITH THIS BILL IT'S VERY BROAD
AND EXPANSIVE.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS WERE
OPPOSE THANK YOU.
I HAD BEEN CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE COULD LOSE UP
AFTER THE FIREARMS POLICY
COALITION.
LET US BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT IS INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE LEGALLY ADULTS THEY'RE
LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE BOTH
SILLY.
AND CRIMINALLY --
THEY ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE AS
ADULTS FOR THE DECISIONS THAT
THEY MAKE WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE
IS WE ARE ARBITRARILY CHOOSING A
GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS BASED ON
WHAT SIMPLY QUITE FRANKLY BASED
ON THEIR AGE.
AS YOU KNOW INSTEAD OF
CALIFORNIA AGE DISCRIMINATION
ACT OF EIGHTEEN MY QUESTION IS
IS THAT IF WE'RE JUST WHAT IS
THIS THE ONLY GROUP WERE GOING
TO LOOK AT BECAUSE OF OF OF
RANDOM STATISTICS AS TO WHETHER
OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO PROHIBIT
THEIR ABILITY TO PURCHASE
FIREARMS.
STATISTICS SHOW THAT IF YOU LIVE
IN CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS
YOU ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO
COMMIT A GUN CRIME HOURS OR TO
COMMIT A GUN CRIME.
IF YOU ARE OF A CERTAIN.
AGE GROUP OR ETHNICITY YOU ARE
GOING MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE TOO
TO COMMIT A PARTICULAR GUN CRIME
IF YOU ARE A FEMALE YOU ARE MORE
LIKELY AFTER PURCHASING A
FIREARM TO BE A STRAW PURCHASE
ARE WE GOING TO PROHIBIT THEIR
RIGHT. TO BE ABLE TO EXERCISE
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO
KEEP AND BEAR ARMS I I GET WHAT
THE THE THE INTENT IS AND THEN
WHAT DID THE GOAL HERE SEEMS TO
BE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE
RIGHTS F INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE WE
PERCEIVE THAT THEY MA.
POTENTIALLY CAUSE A PROBLEM WILL
WE DON'T TAKE AWAY PEOPLE'S
RIGHTS BASED ON A PERCEIVED
THREAT PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY ALL
THE TIME WELL YOU YOU KNOW WILL
WE WE LIMIT WRITES ALL THE TIME
YOU CAN'T YELL FIRE IN A CROWDED
THEATER.
I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YES YOU CAN
IN PARTICULAR IF THERE IS A FIRE
IN THAT THEATER.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WHAT WE DO
IS WE HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THE DECISIONS FOR THE
ACTIONS THAT THEY TAKE SHOULD
THEY SHOULD THEY EXERCISE THOSE
RIGHTS.
IN A WAY THAT HARMS OTHERS WHAT
WE DO NOT DO IS WE DO NOT FOR
EXAMPLE PUT DUCT TAPE ON
PEOPLE'S MOUTHS AS THEY WALK
INTO THE THEATER FOR FEAR THAT
THEY MIGHT YELL FIRE.
THAT IS IN FACT WHAT THIS DOES
IT VIOLATES THE FUNDAMENTAL
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF ALL
HAVE GROWN ADULTS OF CITIZENS
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY SIMPLY
BECAUSE THERE IS A PERCEIVED.
THREAT ENDED JUST A COUNTER ONE
OTHER POINT IN.
NINETEEN NINE IT IS BY THE VERY
DEFINITION MY FATHER'S LONG GUN
SO TO SAY THAT FIREARMS HAVE
FIREARMS HAVE HAVE CHANGED NO
THEY IN FACT HAVE NOT WHAT IS
CHANGED IS PEOPLE.
AND SO WHAT WE MAYBE NEED TO BE%
DOING AS YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT
ACCESS TO THESE FIREARMS SINCE.
NINETEEN FIFTY NINE MAYBE WE
NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS
CHANGE IN OUR SOCIETY AND
INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING
THE SYMPTOM MAYBE WE NEED TO
START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE
SOLUTIONS IS FOR THESE REASONS
THAT WE OPPOSE THIS MEASURE
THANK YOU.
BFORE I HAVE THE OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION YOUR
TESTIMONY IS ALWAYS ENERGETIC
BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE
HAVE MANY [inaudible]
BUT RESTRICTIONS FOR AN EIGHTEEN
YEAR OLDS AND BELOW --
FOR EXAMPLE.
WE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO BUY
ALCOHOL WE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO
LEGALLY PURCHASE POT SO THERE
ARE MANY BUT ANYWAY NEXT WITNESS
IN A MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
SAMPRAS REPRESENTING GUN WAS
CALIFORNIA.
NONE OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE
BROUGHT UP OR ACTUALLY
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THAT ARE
BESTOWED ON ON ALL CITIZENS OF
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND ENSHRINE WITHIN THE
CONSTITUTION ESPECIALLY THE BILL
OF RIGHTS ALL OF THOSE THINGS
ARE PRIVILEGES SO THIS IS
SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN ALL
OF THOSE ISSUES --
A NUMBER ONE YOU KNOW COMPANIES
LIKE DIXON WALMART THEY CAN DO
ANYTHING THEY WANT THE PRIVATE
COMPANIES TAKEN VIOLATE PEOPLE'S.
CIVIL RIGHTS AS A AS A MATTER OF
THEIR BUSINESS COURSE THAT'S ALL
WELL AND GOOD BUT THE GOVERNMENT.
DOESN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF DOING
OTHER THING.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
RECOGNIZES ANYBODY EVERYBODY
MALE AND FEMALE SEVENTEEN YEARS
OF AGE AND OLDER AS A MEMBER OF
THE MILITIA.
NOT A CONSTRICTION CONSTRICTED
MEMBER OF THE MILITARY OR
ANYTHING BUT AS A MEMBER OF THE
MILITIA.
IT'S IN THE FEDERAL LAWS AND
WHAT THIS BILL IS NOW SAYING IS
THAT THESE.
THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF
THE FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED MILITIA
CANNOT PURCHASE FIREARMS.
IN ORDER TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT
MILITIA WE THINK THAT'S GOT A A
CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM AND
FINALLY.
THE THOUGHT OF OF SAYING WELL
YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA BAN THEIR
ACQUISITION OF THEM BUT NOT THE
POSSESSION SO THAT YOU KNOW
SOMEBODY WHO WHO KNOWS THEM CAN
BUY GUNS.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY THIS BILL IN LAW
IS ADVOCATING STRAW PURCHASES
WHICH IS ILLEGAL UNDER STATE AND
FEDERAL LAW. FOR ANYONE TO
PURCHASE A FIREARM THAT IS
INTENDED TO GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
IS ILLEGAL BOTH STATE AND
FEDERAL LAW FOR THESE REASONS
AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER
THINGS WE'RE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL AGAINST
SAMPRAS WERE GUN OWNERS
CALIFORNIA.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
ELIZABETH ESPINOSA'S I APOLOGIZE
I'M OUT OF ORDER TODAY I
COULDN'T QUITE GET IN THE ROOM
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT FOR THE
BILL ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF
SANTA CRUZ BORDER SUPERVISORS IN
THE COUNTY OF SANTA CRUZ IN
SUPPORT OF AB THREE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT GIVEN THE GUN VIOLENCE
EPIDEMIC THAT WE HAVE IN IN THIS
NATION THE STATE I THINK IT'S
INCUMBENT UPON US TO CONSIDER
ALL OF OUR OPTIONS THAT ARE
REASONABLE TO HELP REDUCE GUN
VIOLENCEIN OUR COMMUNITIES I
THINK THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
I RESPECT THE ASTEROID BELT.
THE MOTION IS THE PAST TWO
APPROPRIATION SKINNER.
SKINNER I ANDERSON.
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN STONE NO
WINNER.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU
COLLEAGUES THANK YOU STUFF
[inaudible]
RIGHT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS TODAY I PRESENT A BILL
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AB.
NINE NINE EIGHT FIRST I WOULD
LIKE TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS AND THANK
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK
IN ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF
PUBLIC DEFENDERS.
I AM ALSO COMMITTING TO
AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS PRIVACY
CONCERNS RAISED BY THE ACLU AND
THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
SHOULD THIS BILL PASS OUT OF
THIS COMMITTEE TODAY.
THIS BILL WILL EXPAND THE PROVEN
MULTI DISCIPLINARY TEAM.
OR MTT THE THE MODEL OF VIOLENCE
TREATMENT AND PREVENTION TO
INCLUDE SITUATIONS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
AS NOTED IN THE ANALYSIS
CALIFORNIA IS A HUMAN
TRAFFICKING HOT SPOT AND IN TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN THERE WERE MORE
THAN ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED
CASES OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN
CALIFORNIA INCLUDING OVER ONE
THOUSAND SEX TRAFFICKING CASES.
THE STATISTICS ON DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE OR EAT THE CDC'S
NATIONAL.
INTIMATE PARTNER AND SEXUAL
VIOLENCE SURVEY FOUND THAT 32%
OF WOMEN LIVING IN CALIFORNIA
HAVE BEEN THE VICTIM OF VIOLENCE
SEXUAL VIOLENCE OR STALKING BY
AN INTIMATE PARTNER.
THIS RATE EXCEEDS THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE IN RESPONSE TO THESE
DISTURBING TRENDS CALIFORNIAN
TWENTY FOURTEEN AUTHORIZED THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF FAMILY JUSTICE
CENTERS THESE ARE MULTI AGENCY
MULTI DISCIPLINARY CENTERS.
THAT ALLOW VICTIMS TO ACCESS TO
ACCESS ALL NEEDED SERVICES IN
ONE LOCATION AND TO ENHANCE
VICTIMS' SAFETY AND INCREASE
OFFENDER ACCOUNTABILITY.
WHILE EXISTING LAWS ALLOWS
FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER PERSONNEL
TO SHARE CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION AMONGST THEMSELVES.
NOT EVERY COUNTY HAS AN F. J. C.
OR RESOURCES TO ESTABLISH ONE
THERE ARE FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES
AND ONLY TWENTY ONE FJ SEES.
IN ADDITION AFTER AC BASED MBTS
HAVE COME ACROSS SITUATIONS
WHERE THEY ARE UNABLE TO GET
ADVANCED INFORMED WRITTEN AND
TIME LIMITED CONSENT BUT MUST
ADDRESS COMPLEX OR HIGH RISK
SITUATIONS.
IN THOSE CASES THE MBT MUST TRY
TO DE IDENTIFY THE CASE
INFORMATION WHICH RESTRICTS
DISCUSSION OR COLLABORATION AND
ULTIMATELY FRUSTRATES THEIR
ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND
SUPPORT.
AB NINE NINETY EIGHT WILL
AUTHORIZE CITIES COUNTIES AND
COMMUNITY NON BASED NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS TO ESTABLISH
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HUMAN
HUMAN TRAFFICKING MD TEAS AND
AUTHORIZES MEMBERS OF THOSE
TEAMS TO DISCLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER.
INFORMATION AND RECORDS THAT MAY
BE CONFIDENTIAL BUT THAT ARE
RELEVANT TO THE PREVENTION
IDENTIFICATION MANAGEMENT OR
TREATMENT OF THOSE CRIMES.
THESE TEAMS WILL CONSIST OF
PERSONNEL WHO ARE TRAINED IN THE
MANAGEMENT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASES WHO
ARE QUALIFIED TO PROVIDE A BROAD
RANGE OF SERVICES RELATED TO A
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
THE MULTI DISCIPLINARY TEAM IS
AN ESTABLISHED MODEL FOR
ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS AND
FAMILIES STRUGGLING WITH
INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE AN AB
NINE NINE EIGHT WILL ALLOW
COUNTIES BOTH WITH.
AND WITHOUT FJ SEES TO COOPERATE
AND LEVERAGE RESOURCES FOR THE
VULNERABLE VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND TO DATE I HAVE WITH
ME TWO PEOPLE IN FRONT ON
ACTUALLY ON THE FRONT LINES.
OF THE STRUGGLE TO SERVE BECOMES
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING TO SON KIM IS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COPS
CAST A BALLOT FAMILY JUSTICE
CENTER.
AND DANA BOOKS WHAT OF THE COST
PHIL CASKEY.
IS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SUPERVISOR FOR COPS CUSTER
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR
BETRAYING YOUR LAST NAME.
SO THANK YOU --
FOR FOR COMING HERE TODAY AND
MEET HIM THROUGH THE CHAIR.
OKAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
SUZANNE CAME I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THE FAMILY
JUSTICE CENTER AND WE HAVE TWO
CENTERS ONE IN RICHMOND AND ONE
IN CONCORD.
I'M HERE. TO TESTIFY.
IN SUPPORT OF THAT THIS IS
REALLY IMPORTANT BILL UP BECAUSE
IN MARCH OF TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
THE FAMILY JUST AS AN OUTCOME
BEEN MONTHLY.
THE MESSY VASE MDT MEETINGS AND
THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE
ABLE TO COME IN THIS MEETING AND
SINCE THEN IN OVER TWO YEARS WE
HAVE REVIEWED ABOUT SEVENTY
COMPLEX DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES.
BY COMPLEX WE MEAN A CASE
INVOLVING MULTIPLE BARRIERS TO
SERVICES INCLUDING LANGUAGE
ACCESS THE STABILITY OF A BIG
TIME.
AS WELL AS IMMIGRATION STATUS
ALSO WE ARE LOOKING AT CASES WHO
HAVE BECOME HAS WITH THE NORMAL.
OR LITTLE RESOURCE AND ALSO WE
ARE LOOKING AT CASES INVOLVING
MULTIPLE AGENCIES INCLUDING LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN THE SEVENTY CASES
WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH
OTHER PROVIDERS IN ONE MEETING
IN ONE SPACE.
AND ALSO WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
PARTNERS WHO ARE NOMINATING
CASES AND COMING TO THE MEETING
EXPECTING TO CONNECT TO BECOME
TOO SERVICES RIGHT.
THEN AND THERE THAT THERE ARE NO
MORE MIS PHONE CALLS MISS EMAILS
AND MISSED THE MESSAGES WE ARE
ALWAYS TOGETHER WORKING IN ONE
PLACE AND WE HAVE OVER TWENTY
PARTNERS ATTENDING EVERY METING.
WE HAVE ALSO CONVENED HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND IN TIME PERIOD
FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AND IN HUMAN
TRAFFICKING MDT MEETINGS WE HAVE
REVIEWED ABOUT TWENTY CASES.
AND 70% OF THEM INVOLVE SEX
TRAFFICKING OF MINORS AGAIN
THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT CASES
DIFFICULT TO CONNECT BECOMES TWO
SERVICES AND WHY WE HAVE
FOLLOWED YOU KNOW EXPERIENCES IS
THAT.
WHY OUR PARTNERS AND THE TWO
PARTNERS WITH THE ENJOYED
MEETING TOGETHER AND LEARNING
TOGETHER?
IT'S BEEN IT'S SOMETIMES
DIFFICULT TO HAVE.
IN DEPTH CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE
THE LAW AROUND CONFIDENTIALITY
IS SO COMPLEX AND WHY WE HAVE
THE FAMILY JUSTICE LEGISLATION
THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE SOME
LEVEL OF CONVERSATION WE DON'T
REALLY HAVE THE PROTECTION THAT.
CHILD ABUSE AND THE TEES AND
OTHER THESE ENTITIES HAVE THEY
HAVE THOSE SIMPLE IN SOME WAY
SIMPLE AS THE PLACE IT LEGAL
PHYSICISTS TO SKIN CAN GET.
SIMPLE WAY TO PROTECT MDT
CONVERSATIONS IN THE CHILD ABUSE
AND ELDER ABUSE CONTACTS THE
WHAT WE ARE SEEKING IS THE SAME
LEVEL OR SAME KIND OF PROTECTION
FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THE
TEA AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND
THE TV.
SO THAT THE PROFESSIONALS TO
COME TOGETHER CAN HAVE REALLY
FRANK AND IN DEPTH CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT THE SITUATION SO THAT WE
COULD COME TO GET COME TOGETHER.
AND COME UP WITH THAT WOULD BE
BETTER SERVICE FOR A PLAN FILE
BECOMES ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HAS
BEEN IDENTIFIED IS JUST
SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND.
CONSENT GET A CODE WRITTEN
CONSENT FROM THE CLIENT
ESPECIALLY HUMAN TRAFFICKING
BECOME WHO OFTEN FLEEING AND ALL
I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE SERVICES
AND WE MAY NOT SEE HOPE FOR
ANOTHER THREE MONTHS BUT SHE
WILL COME BACK INTO OUR SYSTEM.
SOLD FOR US PROFESSIONALS TO
REALLY WORK TOGETHER AND GET
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WHAT HAS
BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE
DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TALKING
TOGETHER AND COMING UP WITH A
PLAN.
THAT THEY MAY SHE SHOWS UP THREE
MONTHS LATER WOULD HAVE A PLAN
IN PLACE SO THAT'S WHY I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE
THIS ENTITY PROTECTION SO THAT
WE COULD BRING SAFETY HEALING
TWELVE VICTIMS.
AS SOON AS WE CAN THANK YOU.
NEXT WITNESS THAT AFTERNOON MY
NAME IS DANA FELT HOW SKI I AM
THE SUPERVISOR OF THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE PROSECUTION YET AT THE
CONTRA COSTA COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I'VE BEEN A PROSECUTOR THERE FOR
TWENTY TWO YEARS IS WHERE I GREW
UP AND IT'S WHERE I'M CURRENTLY
RAISING MY OWN FAMILY.
I BELIEVE IN THE MODEL OF LOCAL
SOLUTIONS FOR LOCAL PROBLEMS AND
THAT'S WHAT OUR MULTI
ISCIPLINARY TEAM APPROACH
ALLOWS US TO DO.
ODD.
AS IN ADDITION TO BEING THE A
SUPERVISOR I'M ALSO ON THE CORE
PROJECT TEAM FOR THE COUNTRY
COSTA COUNTY ALLIANCE AND ABUSE.
IT IS A MULTI DISCIPLINARY
PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT
ALIGNS SYSTEMS AROUND
INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE THAT IS
HIGHLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS MODEL
ALSO.
AND I AM PRIVILEGED TO SERVE AS
THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS FOR OUR FAMILY JUSTICE
CENTER IN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY.
AGAIN REALLY BELIEVING IN THIS
COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO
SOLVING VIOLENCE.
IN THE TWENTY TWO YEARS I'VE
BEEN WITH CONTRA COSTA COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I
ROTATED THROUGH ALMOST EVERY
ASSIGNMENT IN THE OFFICE.
I STARTED AN ELDER ABUSE
PROSECUTION UNIT FOR OUR COUNTY
IN AROUND TWO THOUSAND TWO
THOUSAND ONE AND WAS ABLE TO
UTILIZE THE MULTI DISCIPLINARY
TEAM APPROACH IS CODIFIED IN THE
WELFARE INSTITUTIONS CODE. TO
START OUR FIRST ELDER ABUSE
MULTI DISCIPLINARY TEAM UP SOME
OF THOSE TEAM MEETINGS WERE OVER
THE PHONE AND IT WAS ME AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND EPS WORKER.
FRANTICALLY PROBLEM SOLVING
SURROUNDING THE COMPLEX CITY OF
THE ISSUES THAT PERTAIN TO ELDER
ABUSE AND NEGLECT AND WE WERE
ABLE TO SAVE SENIORS THAT WAY WE
SAVED A HOME WE SAVE THE LAST
PAYCHECK WE SAVE THE BROACH THE
CAME FROM WORLD WAR.
TWO WE GOT PEOPLE OUT OF ABUSIVE
AND NEGLECT SITUATIONS IN
NURSING HOMES BY LEVERAGING
THESE RESOURCES IT DIDN'T COST
ANYBODY ANYTHING EXTRA AND WE
WERE ABLE TO BRING IMMEDIATE
ASSISTANCE AND ATTENTION TO THE
NEEDS OF VICTIMS.
WHEN I ROTATED THROUGH AN
ASSIGNMENT IN JUVENILE
PROSECUTION I HAD THE BENEFIT OF
WORKING WITH PARTNERS WHO WERE
ABLE TO UTILIZE A MULTI
DISCIPLINARY TEAM APPROACH TO
SOLVE?
SITUATIONS AND CASES AROUND
CHILD ABUSE WHEN I GOT TO THE
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UNIT AS THE
SUPERVISOR THREE YEARS AGO I
STARTED WORKING WITH OUR FAMILY
JUSTICE CENTER.
AND WE WERE STARTING TO CONVENE
THE NDT TEAMS I WAS SHOCKED TO
LEARN THAT WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE
AS FREELY AS WE CAN WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT SIMILAR ISSUES
WITH SENIORS SIMILAR ISSUES WITH
CHILDREN.
BECAUSE THE LEGISLATION ISN'T
THERE WE CAN'T HAVE PARTNERS
THAT HAVE DIFFERENT DEGREES OF
CONFIDENTIALITY AND PRIVILEGE
SHARE TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE.
AND SO WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE
A NO BRAINER I THOUGHT THIS
WOULD BE AN EASY SOLUTION WE
UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BALANCE
PRIVACY INTERESTS OF VICTIMS
WITH THE NEED TO INTERVENE AND
KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
AND SO WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL
WHEN ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON'S
OFFICE WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH
OTHER PARTNERS IN ADDRESSING
THOSE CONCERNS BUT THE REALITY
IS WHAT WE CAN DO INFORMALLY AS
A MULTI ISCIPLINARY TEAM.
DOESN'T WITH THE FAMILY JUSTICE
CENTER IT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH
I'VE BEEN AT THESE MEETINGS WHEN
I SEE A PARTNER PULL BACK AND DO
THIS AND YOU KNOW.
THEY KNOW SOMETHING.
BUT THEY CAN'T SHARE IS AN
ADVOCACY PARTNER THIS WORK WITH
A CLIENT BEFORE AND THEY CAN'T
TELL US THAT.
ARE WE REINVENTING THE WHEEL
THAT THEY'VE ALREADY INVENTED
THAT DIDN'T SUCCEED WE ARE
TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS
SURROUNDING ISSUES THAT SPAN FOR
VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
IMMIGRATION LANGUAGE BARRIERS
CULTURE CHILDREN CHILDCARE CHILD
CUSTODY ECONOMIC DEPENDENCY
EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY FAMILY LAW
CIVIL LAW.
EMPLOYMENT HOUSING HEALTH CARE
MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION NO
ONE PARTNER CAN SOLVE ALL OF
THOSE ISSUES BUT THAT'S WHAT WE
NEED TO PULL THAT COMES OUT OF
CYCLES OF ABUSE.
IF I CAN'T REALLY DISCUSS THE
CASE OUR PARTNERS WERE NOT
REALLY GOING TO SAVE THAT VICTIM
AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM DOES NOT RESPOND TO THE
MAJORITY OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES.
WE CAN ONLY GET INVOLVED IN
THOSE CASES WHERE THE EVIDENCE
MEETS OUR STANDARDS FOR
PROSECUTION OR WE CAN PROVE THE
CASE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT
WHAT I CAN DO IS BEFORE THOSE
OTHER CASES THERE DON'T MEET MY
EVIDENCE STANDARD.
DOWN TO MY FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER
OR DOWN TO OUR OTHER PARTNERS
WERE THIS MULTI DISCIPLINARY
APPROACH CAN BE A SAFETY NET AND
CATCH BECAUSE WE OTHERWISE
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SERVE.
SO I WOULD URGE YOUR I VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU AND OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
WELCOME TO THAT MIKE.
MICHELLE GIVENS OF THE COUNTY
HEALTH EXECUTIVES ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTING LOCAL
HEALTH DEPARTMENTS IN SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
SEEING KNOWN WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MARCO GEORGE FROM THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION
WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND FOR THE AUTHOR FOR
THE AMENDMENTS BASED ON THE
AMENDMENTS WERE WITHDRAWING OUR
OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
KATHY SURE FOR THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA WE'D ALSO LIKE TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR THE
AMENDMENT'S TAKEN WE REMAIN IN
OPPOSITION FOR THE TIME BEING
DUE TO THE PRIVACY CONCERNS BUT
LOOK FORWARD TO LOOK CONTINUING
TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE
BILL.
MOVED FORWARD TO JUDICIARY TO
RESOLVE THOSE CONCERNS.
GREAT THANK YOU SO WE LEAVE
THERE WILL BE ONE AMENDMENT
TAKEN IN THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN
THE OTHERS WILL BE TAKEN AND YOU
JUST KNOW THE ALL BE TAKEN A
JUDAS ALL INJURED.
OKAY.
I'M.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES.
THING KNOWN ANY COMMENT FROM THE
DICE YES CENTER STONE YOU MADAM
CHAIRWOMAN --
SAM AND GRACE AND THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
OF RIVERSIDE COUNTY IS ONE OF
THE TWENTY ONE COUNTIES IT HAS
THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER --
MY SON IS A DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY IS
IN THE WORK OF THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE UNIT AND I'M VERY MUCH
AWARE OF THE NEED FOR THE MULTI
DISCIPLINARY TEAM --
PERSONALIZED --
SAFETY PLANNING LISTEN ARE ARE
[inaudible]
SJC.
RELOCATION ASSISTANCE --
PROTECTIVE ORDERS --
RESTRAINING ORDERS.
EMERGENCY SHELTER FOOD HOUSING
FAMILY LAW SYSTEMS.
COUNSELING FOR THE CHILDREN THAT
ARE BEEN IMPACTED AND
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM SO --
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD IF
POSSIBLE I COULD BE ADDED AS A
CO AUTHOR AND I LIKE TO MOVE
YOUR BILL.
SORRY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A ONE
TO EXPRESS MY THANKS.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER GRAYSON FOR
WORKING TO STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT
WE AND LANDED ON SOME AMENDMENTS
THAT MAKE IT WORKABLE. FOR SOME
OF THE PEOPLE HAD PROBLEMS.
AND WITH THAT THERE'S NO OTHER
COMMENT WILL TAKE THE ROLL CALL.
ARE EXCUSE ME MAKE CLOTHES I
JUST WANT TO THANK A THE CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAY THIS
IS A LIFE SAVING BILL.
IT REALLY IS AND I ALSO WANT TO
THANK THE GOOD WORKERS SON KIM.
AND ALSO DANA FOR KASKI --
FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO
IN THE COMMUNITY I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN ADULT.
OKAY BROKE OFF.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO DO THIS
SCANNER.
HI IN OUR HIGH ANDERSON.
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I JACKSON MITCHELL
MITCHELL ICE DOWN RIGHT DOWN I
WINNER.
WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN BECAUSE WE
HAVE SOME MISSING MEMBERS BUT
THINK YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD.
THANK YOU BYE AND WE WILL GO.
TO MISTER WOULD.
BE EIGHT ITEM.
EIGHT EIGHTY NINETEEN NINETEEN
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS.
LATE ON THE NIGHT OF OCTOBER
EIGHTH LAST YEAR WILDFIRES RAGE
TO CINEMA NAPA AND MENDOCINO
COUNTIES AND ANALYZE WERE
CHANGED FOREVER.
IS FIRES DESTROYED OVER EIGHT
THOUSAND HOMES IN THE CITY OF
SANTA ROSA ALONE.
THOUSANDS OF MY CONSTITUENTS
LOST A LOT OF THEIR HOMES IN ONE
NIGHT.
THIS NIGHTMARE SCENARIO TOOK
WHAT WAS ALREADY A DIFFICULT
HOUSING MARKET AND TURNED IT
INTO A CRISIS.
CURRENT LAW PREVENTS THE COST OF
ANY GOOD OR SERVICE INCLUDING
HOUSING FROM BEING RAISED MORE
THAN 10% DURING A DECLARED
DISASTER.
UNFORTUNATELY SO UNSCRUPULOUS
LANDLORDS AND VACATION RENTAL
HOST OF MANAGED TO SKIRT THESE
PROTECTIONS ARE NOT TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THOSE WHO LOST
EVERYTHING.
IN LESS THAN A WEEK THE MEDIAN
RENTAL RATE IN SUMMIT COUNTY
JUMP BY OVER 35%.
THERE WERE DOZENS OF EXAMPLES OF
HOMES BEING OFFER FOR MORE THAN
DOUBLE THE PRE DISASTER PRICE OF
SIMILAR HOMES.
THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE CURRENT
LAW DOES NOT PROVIDE A METHOD
FOR DETERMINING THE BASE RENT.
OF IT OF A HOME THAT WAS NOT ON
THE MARKET.
BEFORE DECLARED DISASTER AS A
RESULT HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN
WHO HAVE A SECOND HOME IN THE
AREA.
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT THEIR
HOUSE ON THE MARKET AT WHATEVER
PRICE THE TEAMS THEY DEEM FAIR.
WITH A LOSS OF OVER 5% OF THE
COUNTIES HOUSING STOCK MY
DISTRICT HAS BECOME A PRIME
HUNTING GROUND FOR LANDLORDS TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FIRE FIRE
VICTIMS.
AB NINETEEN NINETEEN CLOSES THE
NEW RENTAL LOOPHOLE IN EXISTING
LAW BY READ BY DEFINING BASE
RENT AS A HUNDRED AND 60% OF THE
HUD FAIR MARKET PRICE.
THIS DEFINITION PROVIDES A CLEAR
TO FIND A EVERYONE IS RULES.
LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
THIS BILL.
AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED I
VOTE HERE TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF
OF THE STOMACH COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IS MATT CHEAPER.
EXCELLENT GO AHEAD.
AFTER THE MONEY'S NOT SHIVER I'M
A DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN
THE CONSUMER PROTECTION UNIT OF
THE DA'S OFFICE.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIRES ARE
OFFICE DID EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO
GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT PRICE
GOUGING IN THE RENTAL.
HOUSING MARKETS BECAUSE WE KNEW
IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
AND WE DID NOT REACH BOTH TO THE
REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY AND TO THE
PUBLIC.
AND WE'VE RECEIVED HUNDREDS AND
HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF
ENQUIRIES FROM LANDLORDS.
TENANTS PROPERTY MANAGERS
REALTORS --
YOU NAME IT ASKING WHAT THEY CAN
AND CAN'T DO UNDER THE STATUTE --
WE'VE INVESTIGATED CLOSE TO TWO
HUNDRED AND FIFTY COMPLAINTS OF
PRICE GOUGING IN THE RENTAL
HOUSING AREA --
AND WE THINK THERE ARE MANY MORE
CASES THAT WERE UNREPORTED
BECAUSE OF FEAR OF RETALIATION
BY LANDLORDS --
SO FAR WE'VE FILED A FIVE
CRIMINAL CASES AND WE HAVE MANY
MORE CASES THAT ARE STILL UNDER
REVIEW FOR OTHER CRIMINAL OR
CIVIL PROSECUTION.
PEOPLE COULD SECTION THREE
NINETY SIX CURRENTLY LUMPS
RENTAL HOUSING IN WITH OTHER
CONSUMER GOODS OR SERVICES LIKE
BOTTLED WATER.
AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT
THERE ARE SEVERAL UNIQUE ISSUES
IN TRYING TO APPLY THREE NINETY
SIX TO THE RENTAL HOUSING MARKET.
AND WHAT WE NEED A CLEAR
STANDARDS FOR BOTH THE REAL
ESTATE INDUSTRY --
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. EIGHTEEN
NINETEEN NINETEEN WOULD CLARIFY
CERTAIN ASPECTS OF PENAL CODE
SECTION THREE NINETY SIX AS IT
APPLIES TO RENTAL HOUSING.
AND EXTEND THREE NINETY SIX HAS
REACHED A COUPLE SITUATIONS THAT
ARE NOT CURRENTLY COVERED.
WITH RESPECT TO THE AREAS OF
CLARIFICATION.
OF THE FIRST IS WHAT I CALL
INSURANCE BUILDING ONE OF THE
MOST PREVALENT ARGUMENTS THAT
WE'VE HAD IS.
IT WASN'T PRICE GOUGING BECAUSE
INSURANCE COMPANIES CAME IN AND
BID UP THE PRICE ARE OFFERED ME
MORE MONEY.
THE OTHER IS THAT THERE IS
CURRENTLY NO DEFENSE IS CALLED
FOR THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT IN THE
STATUTE --
AND IT'S CREATED A LOT OF
PROBLEMS --
IT AFFECTS THE HOUSING MARKET IN
GENERAL AND IT CERTAINLY AFFECTS
THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE UNDER WHO
ARE NOT INSURED.
PARTICULARLY RENTERS --
AND PEOPLE DON'T OWN THEIR OWN
HOMES.
THE NEXT AREA OF THREE NINETY
SIX CURRENTLY HAS A DEFENSE FOR
ITEMS THAT ARE ON SALE --
IF AN ITEM IS ON SALE AFTER THE
PRE DISASTER POST DISASTER YOU
CAN BRING THE ITEM BACK UP TO
ITS REGULAR PRICE PLUS 10%.
AND WERE SEEKING SOME
CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW THAT
APPLIES TO RENTAL HOUSING.
THE NEXT THREE NINETY SIX
CURRENTLY ALLOWS SELLERS OF
ITEMS TO PASS THROUGH CERTAIN
INCREASED COSTS THAT ARE IMPOSED
ON THEM.
AND AGAIN WE'RE SEEKING.
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN AND NINETEEN
WOULD CLARIFY HOW THAT APPLIES
TO RENTAL HOUSING.
NEXT IS THE AREA OF A A LOCAL
FURNITURE AN ANCILLARY GOODS --
WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE SOME
LANDLORDS THAT ATTEMPTED TO
SHOOT.
BY CHARGING EXORBITANT RATES.
FOR HOME FURNISHINGS GARDENING
OTHER SERVICES LIKE THAT SO AB
NINETEEN NINETEEN WOULD CLARIFY
WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT AREA AND
HOW MUCH.
AND THEN THE LAST OF THE LENGTH
OF THE RENTAL TERM ANOTHER
FREQUENT DEFENSE ARGUMENT THAT
WE HEARD WAS --
THAT A LANDLORD TO RAISE THE
RENTS MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE PRETTY
FAR THEY WERE IN A TWELVE MONTH
LEASE.
AND POST FIRE THEY WANT THEIR
LIMITING IT TO A THREE MONTH
LEASE SO IT'S A DIFFERENT
PRODUCT WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
THAT AREA DRESSED.
I'LL TURN OUT OF THE AREAS THAT
WERE THREE NINETY SIX WOULD BE
EXTENDED UNDER THE CURRENT BILL --
AS THE SEVEN MEMBER MENTIONED
SANTA ROSA PRESS DEMOCRAT RAN A
STORY SEVERAL WEEKS AFTER THE
FIRES THAT ACCORDING TO ZILLOW
MEDIAN RENTS IN THE COUNTY.
WERE UP 36%.
ZILLOW LARGELY LARGELY
ATTRIBUTED THAT TO NEW RENTALS
ON THE MARKET PROPERTIES THAT
HADN'T BEEN RICHARD PRE FIRE
THAT WE'RE NOW COMING ON THE
MARKET.
POST FIRE INDICATION RENTALS
WHICH ARE NOW BEING OFFERED IS
MORE PERMANENT HOUSING.
AND THREE NINETY SIX IS NOT
ADEQUATELY ADDRESS EITHER OF
THOSE AREAS AND SO THOSE
LANDLORDS.
WERE SENSUAL OUT TO CHARGE
WHATEVER THE MARKET WOULD BEAR --
AND AND AS MENTIONED THAT THAT
CREATES SOME SUFFERED A LOT OF
PROBLEMS AND SOME SEVERAL HIGH
PROFILE SITUATIONS AND THOSE ARE
THE TYPES OF SITUATIONS THAT
WERE IN THE PAPER.
IT'S SKEWED THE MARKET WAS UP
36% RAISE BASIC FAIRNESS ISSUES
WHY ONE LANDLORD.
ON A PARTICULAR STREAK ONLY
CHARGE THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS A
MONTH AND SOMEONE DOWN THE
STREET WITH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME
HOUSE COULD CHARGE NINE THOUSAND
DOLLARS A MONTH UNDER THE SAME
STATUTE --
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DEFER
DEFER DETER FOLKS FROM MAKING
THE RENTAL HOMES AVAILABLE IN
TIMES OF CRISIS?
WE THINK EIGHTEEN NINETEEN
NINETEEN WOULD PROVIDE FOR A
FAIR RETURN TO PROPERTY OWNERS
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF A DISASTER.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CREATING
A A CLEARS A HUNDRED AND 60% OF
THE FAIR MARKET RATE.
THAT'S ESTABLISHED BY HUD ON
THOSE RATES ARE PUBLISHED ON
THEIR WEBSITE --
THEY'RE EASILY ATTAINABLE AND IT
AND AND SHOULD PROVIDE CLARITY.
AND THEN THE LAST ISSUE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED HER
EVICTIONS.
ACCORDING TO LEGAL AID CINEMA
COUNTY SIDE20% INCREASE IN OF
ACTIONS POST FIRE.
RECEIVED DOZENS OF COMPLAINTS
FROM PEOPLE WERE EVICTED FROM
THEIR HOMES --
AND THEN SAW ON ZILLOW OR OTHER
AREAS THAT THE HOME IS NOW BEING
OFFERED FOR IT THAT MUCH HIGHER
RATES AND THEY WERE THEY WERE
CHARGING.
MYSTERIES TO PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW
YOU HAVE THE PRICE GOUGING
PROBLEM AND YOU HAVE NEW PEOPLE
THAT ARE ON THE MARKET NOW
BECAUSE THEY WERE EVICTED.
UNFAIRLY.
AND SO THREE EIGHTEEN NINETEEN
NINETEEN WOULD ADDRESS THAT
ISSUE BY.
PROVIDING SPECIAL TO TURN
SPECIFICALLY.
FOR THE ELECTIONS --
IN OUR OFFICE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE YES ON
THIS BILL.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS STAND PULLS
OUT ON BEHALF OF LOS ANGELES
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE FOR ALL THE REASONS
STATED.
SHAWN HOP INTO THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON KAREN LAYING ON
BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS FOR JUST THE RISE IN
CINEMA AND NAPA COUNTIES THE
STORIES HE WERE JUST WAS
DESCRIBING ARE QUITE REAL.
I'M SOME LANDLORDS HAVE DONE THE
RIGHT THING OTHERS HAVE NOT
WORDING YOU TO PASS THIS BILL
TODAY THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF DAVID
GEORGE JONES AND HALF SERIOUS
AND ROSE AND STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
AFTER AN ALEXANDER HER NAME AT
THE WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY AND STRONG SUPPORT.
MY DIFFICULTY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION
THE OWNERS WERE ASKING TO DO THE
RIGHT THING.
WE ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE THANK YOU.
HI CATHERINE BORED WITH THE
WESTERN MANUFACTURED HOUSING
COMMUNITIES ASSOCIATION WE DON'T
HAVE A POSITION ON THE BILL BUT
WERE STILL WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR ON SOME UNIQUE AMENDMENTS
THANK YOU.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
RIGHT THING NINE WE HAVE ANY
COMMON THE DIVE CENTER STONE
THANK YOU AGAIN MDAM CHAIR --
DOCTOR WOULD THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD A
STARTLING TO HEAR SOME OF THE
STATISTICS OF THAT.
WENT ON AND YOU KNOW I CAN'T
THINK OF JUST ABOUT ANYTHING
THAT COULD BE AS DEVASTATING AS
AS LOSING YOUR HOME AND LOSING
ALL YOUR PICTURES AND ALL YOUR
FAMILY MEMORABILIA AND THEN. TO
BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND TRYING
TO MAINTAIN YOUR LIFE IN A
COMMUNITY WHERE.
YOUR LIFE IS BEING --
REBUILT LIVE HUMAN ISSUE AND AND
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE
BRINGING THIS FORWARD WE IN YOUR
DISTRICT SUSTAINED SOME
SIGNIFICANT --
MORTALITY AND AND AND AND
DEVASTATION AND WE LEARN FROM.
THESE TYPES OF DISASTERS AND HOW
WE CAN.
BETTER PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS --
BUT THE LESSONS ARE LEARNED AND
AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD.
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL TO
APPROPRIATE TIME.
RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
IF ANYTHING I WOULD SAY THE
HUNDRED AND 60% IS GENEROUS IT'S
AN EMERGENCY AND THERE WERE SO
MANY UNITS THAT WERE LOST AND SO
I FEEL.
I CAN SUPPORT THE BILL I WOULD
PROBABLY --
PUT IT AT A LOWER LEVEL OF
MEDIAN JUST CONSIDERING WHAT THE
CIRCUMSTANCES IS AND IF I WOULD
HAVE EXTENDED THE EVICTION
PROTECTION FOR A FEW MONTHS
AFTER THE THE STATE OF EMERGENCY
JUST GIVEN HOW WE KNOW HOW LNG
IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO REPLACE
THOSE UNITS.
BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING IT IN
THE THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION
WILL ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE.
A JUST SAID THANK THANK YOU FOR
THE CONSIDERATION IT IS A IT IS
A CRISIS --
IT HAS AFFECTED US SO MANY P. SO
MANY WAYS THE LOSS OF HOUSING IS
MEETING TODAY WITH --
MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY AT THE
SMALL BUSINESS VANCE AND THEY
THEM HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ARE
BEING AFFECTED --
ON A REGULAR BASIS --
AND IT'S AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
SO SO THIS THIS HOUSING SHORTAGE
IN THESE AND THESE KINDS OF
ACTIVITIES ARE AFFECTING I'M NOT
ONLY JUST THE LIVES OF THOSE
PEOPLE BUT BUSINESSES AND AND
OUR ABILITY TO RECOVER AND EVERY
AT THAT WITH THAT I JUST
RESPECTFULLY ESCRIBO.
WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO GEO SKINNER
RIGHT IN OUR I ANDERSON BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN.
STONE I WINNER.
IT WILL STAND CALLED KILLER
MEMBERS COME BACK BUT I THINK SO
MUCH BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL NOW GO
TO ITEM --
ELEVEN EIGHTEENTH NINETEEN FORTY
EIGHT SEVEN MEMBER JONES OR IT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS.
AB NINETEEN FORTY EIGHT WOULD
ADD SENTINEL TO LIST OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES FOR WHICH
A WIRE TAP MAY BE AUTHORIZED
WOULD ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
OBTAIN WIRE TAP. FOR THEILLEGAL
USES AFFECT ALL.
THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON DRUG
ABUSE DEFINED FOR NOW AS A
POWERFUL SYNTHETIC OPIOID THAT
IS SIMILAR TO MORPHINE BUT IT'S
FIFTY TO A HUNDRED TIMES MORE
POTENT.
IN COMPARISON HEROIN IS HIGHLY
TWICE AS POTENT AS MORPHINE. TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN THE DRUG
ENFORCEMENT.
ADMINISTRATION ISSUED A
NATIONWIDE ALERT ON FOOT AND ALL
AS A THREAT TO HEALTH AND PUBLIC
SAFETY.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES ARE
SEEN AN INCREASE IN FEDERAL DRUG
TRAFFICKING BECAUSE OF ITS LOW
RISK AND HIGH PROFIT.
AS CHAIRMAN OF THE ASSEMBLY
PUBLIC SAFETY WE NEED TO KEEP
CALIFORNIA SAFE AND PROTECT THEM
FROM THE DRUG TRAFFICKERS WHO
ARE ILLEGALLY TRANSPORTING.
MANUFACTURING AND SELLING THIS
FATAL DRUG IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
WITH ME TODAY.
IS DAN FELLAS OUT OF LOS ANGELES
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU I WILL.
YOU MAY PROCEED.
MENTOR MEMBER STAND FOR THOSE ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WE
ARE PLEASED TO SPONSOR.
A B..
NINETEEN FORTY EIGHT AS
EVERYBODY IS WELL AWARE WE ARE
IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OPIOID
CRISIS RIGHT NOW.
IN FENTON ALL IS ONE OF THE
LEADING.
KILLERS WE HAVE.
IN THE UNITED STATES IN
CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW.
OUR CURRENT WIRETAP LAW ONLY
ALLOWS US TO OBTAIN WIRETAPS IF
A DRUG OR NARCOTIC IS
SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED IN THE
STATUTE FENNEL IS CURRENTLY.
NOT ENUMERATED.
YET HOWEVER FENNEL WOULD BE A
MOST THE POSTER CHILD OF A DRUG
THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR WIRE
TAPS.
VIRTUALLY ALL FIT IN ALL IN THE
UNITED STATES ORIGINATES IN
CHINA IT IS THEN --
BROUGHT EITHER TO MEXICO OR
CANADA BEFORE IT IS --
IMPORTED INTO THE UNITED STATES
AND TURKEY CALIFORNIA BEFORE
GOES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
CALIFORNIA WIRETAP LAW ONLY
APPLIES. TWO LARGE SCALE DRUG --
OFFENSES.
FENNEL IS BEING IMPORTED.
IN KILO WEIGHT --
INTO CALIFORNIA TODAY --
ONE KILO OF FENNEL AGENDA HAS
ABOUT STREET VALUE OF ABOUT
THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS --
THIS LAW WOULD NOT TARGET YOUR
STREET DEALERS --
THESE ARE FOUR MAJOR WEIGHT --
IMPORTERS WHICH ARE ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY.
ORGANIZED CRIMINAL.
ACT -- WE
CAN'T ATTEND A WIRE TAP INTO
WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OTHER.
AVENUES OF OBTAINING EVIDENCE
AGAINST THESE INDIVIDUALS BUT
LIKE I SAY BECAUSE OF THE
INTERNATIONAL SHIPMENT BE
CROSSING THE BORDERS THE
DIFFERENT ORGANIZED CRIME.
RINGS ARE INVOLVED.
WIRETAP IS THE BEST WAY TO
COMBAT THIS PROBLEM IN
CALIFORNIA.
AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE.
NEXT WITNESS MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
CELL LIEUTENANT BRENDAN UP AT
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT CO SPONSORS OF THE
BILL.
AND ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE
DA'S OFFICE OUR DETECTIVES ARE
COMING ACROSS NOT ONLY FOR US
ALL MORE FREQUENTLY BUT THE
AMOUNTS THAT THEY'RE SEIZING ARE
MORE FREQUENT AS WELL --
IN SOME CASES THEIR TARGETS OR
MAYBE IT'S A IT'S A
METHAMPHETAMINE CASE OR A HEROIN
CASE OR COCAINE THEY'RE ACTUALLY
FUNNY MORE FUNCTIONAL WHEN THEY
DO THE SEIZURE.
AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY'RE
ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR SO WITHOUT
A A A CREATURE I VOTE.
JOHN LEVEL ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE LA COUNTY
PROFESSIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION.
WE SUPPORT THE BILL FOR THE
REASONS ARTICULATED BY THE FIRST
TWO WITNESSES.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS CORSO'S ALONE BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
SHOP WITH CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
BRANCH OF THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION ALSO IN
SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
DO WE HAVE ANY ANY OPPOSITION.
RIGHT SEEING NINE WE HAVE COMMON
YES SENATOR STROM THANK YOU
AGAIN I'M SURE I WANT --
TO APPLIED MY MY FRIEND FROM LOS
ANGELES FOR FOR BRINGING THIS --
THIS BILL FORWARD --
FENTANYL TYPICALLY IS NOT BEEN
IN A DRUG OF ABUSE AND IN YEARS
PAST IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE
MOST POPULAR IV ANALGESICS THE
JEWS.
AND TO SHOW YOU HOW OPPONENT IS
SUCH ISSUES IN MICROGRAMS OF
MICROGRAMS ONE THOUSANDTH OF A
MILLIGRAM SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE
BIT A DUST YOU KNOW.
AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE SAYING --
THE PROLIFERATION OF THE
IMPORTATION OF THIS SYNTHETIC
OPIATE.
IS BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP. TO
MANUFACTURE.
IT'S FIFTY TIMES STRONGER THAN
HEROIN [inaudible]
AND OF THE PROFITABILITY ISSUE
AS YOU MENTIONED I THINK
THIRTEEN MILLION A KILO.
IS --
EXTRAORDINARY.
BUT IT AGAIN TO EXEMPLIFY HOW
POTENT OF A DRUG THIS IS YOU
MENTION LET'S MENTION IN THE
REPORT TO THE THREE POUND --
THRESHOLD.
THAT'S ONE POINT FOUR KILOS.
THAT'S ENOUGH TO OVERDOSE.
TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE OF THE
FORTY MILLION PEOPLE TO LIVE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SHOWING HOW DANGEROUS THE SETS.
SO -- I
THINK IT'S WISE THAT WERE.
DOING THIS --
ANOTHER DRUG --
CALLED SUE FENTANYL IS ALSO ON
THE MARKET.
WHICH IS A TEN TIMES STRONGER
THAN FENTANYL SO THAT MAYBE THE
NEXT ONE BUT MAYBE WE COULD
PARTNER TOGETHER.
PREEMPT THAT.
IMPORTATION OF THAT DRUG THAT IS
GOING TO HAVE CONSEQUENCES
BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IS THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE
EXPERIMENTING WITH A THINK AND
THEY'VE BEEN MARKETED AS HEROIN.
AND ARE ACTUALLY.
OVERDOSING THROUGH RESPIRATORY
DEPRESSION WITH THE NEEDLE IN
THEIR ARM IS THERE PUSHING THE
PLUNGER JUST.
DYING ALMOST INSTANTANEOUSLY.
AND IT'S KILLING SOME INNOCENT
PEOPLE TO SOME VERY NOTABLE
PEOPLE THAT.
MANY OF US --
ADMIRE A LOT.
A PRINCE.
ACTUALLY THOUGHT HE WAS TAKING
VITAMIN WAS SPIKED WITH FENNEL
MICHAEL JACKSON ALSO HAD FELT NO
WHICH CONTRIBUTED WITH THE
PROPER FALLEN IN ENDING HIS LIFE
SO.
REDUCING THE IMPORTATION OF THE
STAGES DRUG IS GOING TO SAVE
LIVES ASSEMBLYMAN I APPRECIATE
YOUR BRINGING FORWARD AND I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE IT AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME AND WOULD BE
HONORED TO BE A CO AUTHOR OF
THAT.
YOU WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION TO
ALLOW SENATOR MITCHELL GO AHEAD.
NOW THE ANALYSIS ON PAGE --
FIVE AND UNDER EXISTING LAW
WHERE WIRE TAPS ARE ALLOWED --
SUBBASE SAYS IN INSTANCES OF
IMPORTATION POSSESSION FOR SALE
TRANSPORTATION THE SALE OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES IS BUT NOT
ALL NOT CONSIDERED A CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE.
IT IS IT'S IN A DIFFERENT IT'S
ONLY SPECIFIC LISTED CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE OKAY FLICK TO GENERAL
SO IT'S SO IT'S NOT AND SO IT
NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE CURRENT
LIST [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
MORE DETAIL SHOULD HAVE BEEN
LISTED THERE YEAH.
HOW TO LIVE WILDLIFE ALL?
AND AS YOU CAN FOR IT.
YEAH RIGHT.
WAS ALREADY [inaudible]
OKAY --
BEFORE YOU CLOSE I JUST WANT TO
SAY THAT --
WE THERE'VE BEEN SOME OTHER
BILLS BEFORE US ON THE SUBJECT
OF FENNEL AND I THINK THE
COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE IS CLEARLY
ON NOT ONLY WHERE OF THE OPIOID
EPIDEMIC.
VERY VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND
AND VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN --
DOING WHAT'S APPROPRIATE TO
ENDED.
BUT THE PASS BILLS WERE CRIME
ENHANCEMENTS.
AND THIS BILL IS NOT THIS BILL
IS ALLOWING THIS TO BE ADDED TO
THE LIST THAT ALLOWS FOR THE
WIRE TAPPING --
SO WITH THAT I'M RECOMMENDING ON
THE BILL.
AND YOU MAY CLOSE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE.
SO WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL.
MISSION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER.
RIGHT IN OUR EYE ANDERSON
BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL I STONE STONE I WINNER.
ALRIGHT WITH SEVERAL CALL THEN.
SOME REMEMBER JOBS OR YOU HAVE
IT ANOTHER BILL WHICH IS A NEW.
TWENTY EIGHT SEVENTY SIX THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR.
OF AB. TWENTY EIGHT SEVENTY SIX
FOOT CODIFIED IN STATE LAW
PROTECTIONS FROM.
A STATE LAW PROTECTIONS FROM
REASONABLE VEHICLE SEIZURES AT
ESTABLISHING THE FOURTH.
AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CONSTITUTION IN A LIMITED NUMBER
OF CASES LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS THE
ABILITY TO EMPOWER VEHICLES
WITHOUT THE USE OF A WARRANT.
HE MUST BE BALANCED WITH THE
NEED OF INDIVIDUALS TO KEEP
THEIR ONLY MODE OF
TRANSPORTATION.
COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT UNLESS
THE VEHICLE POSSESSES A DANGER
TO THE COMMUNITY AN INDIVIDUAL'S
RIGHT FROM UNREASONABLE SEIZURE
SHOULD PROCEED TO WRITE A LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO SEIZE A VEHICLE.
THIS BILL DOES NOT SEEK TO
IMPEDE THE ABILITY OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO SEIZE
VEHICLES.
USED IN THE COMMISSION OF A
CRIME CEASE TO CLARIFY STATE LAW
SO THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH
CASE LAW AND UNITED STATES
CONSTITUTION.
WITH ME TODAY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS IS XANDER [inaudible]
GENET.
FROM OUT OF SPONSORS OF THE BILL
I'M GONNA TRY IT THEN.
BUTTON.
THE NAPA TEAM.
THE OTHER.
FIFTEEN LEFT TO PAY.
FOR AND GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
JEANETTE SUNNY BUT DEAN
LEGISLATIVE STAFF ATTORNEY FROM
ALL THAT THE MEXICAN AMERICAN.
LEGAL DEFENSE AND EDUCATIONAL
FUND WE ARE PROUD SPONSORS OF AB.
TWENTY EIGHT SEVENTY SIX ON THIS
BILL MERELY CODIFIES EXISTING
NINTH CIRCUIT CASE LAW AROUND
THE COMMUNITY CARE TAKING
DOCTRINE.
IT'S REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR CLARIFICATION AND STATE LAW
THAT ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
BALANCE THE NEEDS OF THEIR THERE
NEEDS.
TO ENSURE THAT --
CARS THAT ARE WHO HAS BEEN
PULLED OVER FOR WHATEVER
INFRACION --
TO ENSURE THAT THAT CAR IS --
SAFELY OUT OF THE WAY OF TRAFFIC
OR PARKED AND IT BALANCES THAT
AGAINST THE NEEDS AGAINST OUR
FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS FOR
UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND
SEIZURES.
AS YOU KNOW MANY LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES AND IMMIGRANTS ON
FACE INSURMOUNTABLE CHALLENGES
GETTING THEIR CARS OUT OF
STORAGE OR PAY AN EXORBITANT
FEES FOR BOTH THE STORAGE AND
THE TOWING FEES WHICH OFTEN.
MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR DAY
TO DAY LIVES OF THEIR ABILITY --
TO HE'LL TAKE THE KIDS TO SCHOOL
TO GO TO WORK AND TO BE SELF
SUFFICIENT AND SO FOR THOSE
REASONS WE'RE LOOKING AT NIGHT
CIRCUIT CASE LAW. TO GIVE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SOME --
PARAMETERS AROUND WHEN THEY CAN --
SEES THE CAR AND HAVE THE CAR
EITHER IMPOUNDED OR STORED ON
THE YOU KNOW UNDER CASE LAW
RIGHT NOW.
ON SOME OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS
FOR TAKING AWAY A PERSON'S CAR
INCLUDE ON PREVENTING A HAZARD
TO OTHER DRIVERS.
PROTECTING THE PUBLIC FROM IT
UNSAFE DRIVER AND OR PREVENTING
THEFT VANDALISM ALL OF THESE ARE
CASE BY CASE BASIS SEIZE ON THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT MUST UNDERTAKE
IT'S NOT.
REQUIRING ANY EXTRA WORK ON
THEIR BEHALF ON CASELOADS PRETTY
CLEAR THAT OUT ARE FOR THE
MOMENT RIGHT AGAINST
UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND
SEIZURES.
IS A PARAMOUNT CONSTITUTIONAL
PROTECTION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
NEEDS.
TO HALF JUSTIFICATIONS BEFORE
THEY'RE ABLE TO IMPOUND.
YOUR VEHICLE AND FOR THOSE
REASONS AND WE ASK FOR YOUR
IPHONE.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MARGOT GEORGE THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER SIR KAY OF WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION [inaudible]
THE NEW.
CORRECT LOVELY ALRIGHT SO DYESS
ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A BILL OF MOTION THEN WE
WILL ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE AND THEN
TAKE A RECALL RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE.
WENT BROKE OFF AS SHE HAS THE
PASTOR APPROPRIATION SCANNER
RIGHT I ANDERSON BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL MITCHELL ICE
DOWN.
STONE I WINNER.
BILLS ON CALL THANK YOU BOTH FOR
TAKING SO THAT YOU.
WE'LL NOW GO TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LOVE SO PATIENTLY WAITING.
THEN THIS IS ITEM NUMBER OF
LIVES LOST MY ITEM NUMBER.
TWELVE A B. NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT
I WAS A GOOD YEAR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF P. SHOULD HAVE TO
NEED TO PRESENT AT A B. NINETEEN
SIXTY EIGHT WHICH IS REALLY A
PERMANENT REMOVES FIREARMS FROM
ANYONE PLACE ON TWO FIFTY WANTED
TO HOLD WITH. ONE ONE YEAR
AMENDMENTS TAKEN IN THE ASSEMBLY
INSURE THAT DUE PROCESS RIGHTS
BY MAINTAINING THE OPTION TO
PETITION THE COURT. FOR A
HEARING TO HAVE AND THE RIGHT TO
CHANCE THE PROHIBITION EVERY
FIVE YEARS OTHERS BILL HAS
RECEIVED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND
SUPPORTED BY THE CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION.
ASSOCIATION OF MARRIAGE AND
FAMILY THERAPISTS PSYCHIATRIC.
TECHNICIANS AND CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
WHO HAVE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT EXACTLY
AS PRIVATE.
ISN'T SUPPORT MAY PROCEED.
IN AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
SHOT OFF AND CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION THE
SPONSORS OF ASSEMBLY BILL.
NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT UNDER
EXISTING LAW A PERSON WHEN THEY
ARE COMMITTED TO A SEVENTY TWO
HOUR HOLD PURSUANT TO WELL FOR
INSTITUTIONS CODE SECTION.
FIFTY ONE FIFTY THE PROHIBITED
FROM POSSESSING A FIREARM FOR
FIVE YEARS THEY CAN PETITION
THAT PROHIBITION.
THAT PETITION --
ONCE HEY SUBMIT THAT THE BURDEN
IS ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE TO PROVE THAT THEY'VE
BEYOND A PREPONDERANCE OF THE
EVIDENCE THAT THEY WOULD.
BE UNSAFE WITH FIREARMS --
SOME OF THE TIME LINES.
WITH WHICH THAT PROCESS TAKES
PLACE ARE RATHER BURDENSOME FOR
THE OFFICE THIS BILL SEEKS TO
EXTEND THOSE.
MODESTLY.
BUT DOES PRESERVE THE THE
PERSON'S ABILITY TO TO FILE THAT
PETITION AND THEN AS AS THE
AUTHOR MENTIONED IF SOMEONE
SUBJECTED TO FIFTY ONE FIFTY
HOLD WITHIN A TWELVE MONTH
PERIOD.
I THIS WOULD --
CREATE A AN INDEFINITE PROBATION
THAT THE PERSON COULD CHALLENGE
EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AGAIN AT FIRST --
HEARING WOULD BE THE BURDEN
WOULD BE ON THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SHOW BEYOND --
PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE
THAT THE PERSON BE UNSAFE WITH
FIREARMS THAT STANDARD IS.
THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT IS IN IN
MANY OTHER STATES THAT HAVE THIS
IN MANY OTHER STATES THE BURDEN
IS ON THE PETITIONER TO SHOW
THAT THEY WOULD USE THE FIREARMS
IN A SAFE MANNER WE'RE NOT.
NOT CHANGING THE THE THE BURDEN
FOR THAT THAT FIRST HEARING --
WE THINK IS VERY SENSIBLE --
CHANGE THE LAW IN LIGHT OF OF
YOU KNOW SOME OF THE THE GUN
VIOLENCE --
INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN
NATIONWIDE AND ASK FOR THE
COMMITTEE SUPPORT.
JUST CLARIFICATION SINCE I'M.
SO THE FIRST.
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PETITION
AFTER FIVE YEARS.
BUT THAT PETITION OR WOULD THEY
BE ABLE TO PETITION SOONER THEY
COULD POSITION IMMEDIATELY SO
THAT OUR PRESENT DAY HAVE TO
PROVE.
THEY WOULD PETITION IMMEDIATELY
THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON US TO
SHOW THAT THEY WERE WOULD BE
UNSAFE.
ESSAY WE MEET THAT BURDEN THEY
CANNOT FIND ANOTHER PETITION FOR
FIVE YEARS FROM FROM THAT ANY
SUBSEQUENT PETITION.
WOULD BE THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON
THEM TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY
WOULD USE FIREARMS IN A SAFE
MANNER.
THAT WAS AMENDMENTS WE AGREED TO
IN ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY
[inaudible]
OKAY.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW.
I'M.
SO OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
OUR MANAGER TO REMEMBER SOME
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
SHARE MY EXPERIENCE IN LIFE I'M
SUPPORTING.
AB NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT MY WAS
DR JORGE JUAN AND I'M WITH THE
CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION.
HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED A FEW YEARS
BACK WITH A TWENTY TWO YEAR OLD
FILIPINA AMERICAN WOMAN WHO WAS
ACTUALLY SENT TO ME. FOR
TREATMENT FOR POTENTIAL FAMILY
REUNIFICATION AFTER SHE WAS
ACTUALLY UP PUT ON THE COURT FOR
ENDANGERMENT OF A CHILD.
IS ACTUALLY FIFTEEN FIFTY TWICE
IN THE UP TO ONE YEAR FOR
EXPRESSING PSYCHOSIS AND ALSO
OCCASIONAL METH METHAMPHETAMINE
USE.
DURING TREATMENT SHOWS
INCONSISTENCIES WITH THEIR BILLS
WAS MEDICATION AND AS THE TIME
ARRIVED FOR HER LAST COURT CASE --
THE TREATING PSYCHIATRIST AND
MYSELF OTHER UPON HER LASKO DAY
SHE WAS INFORMED THAT THECHILD
WAS GOING TO BE --
TO ME FROM HER PARENTAL RIGHTS
IN THERE WHO'S GOING TO BE
ADOPTED BY THE MATERNAL
GRANDMOTHER.
WHICH ACTUALLY WOULD KEEP THE
CHILD WITHIN THE FAMILY
UNFORTUNATELY SHE WAS QUITE
DISTRAUGHT AND ENDED UP ON
PURCHASING A FIREARM AND FUNDING
TO BE --
DAVE THROUGH A A FATAL GUNSHOT
WOUND TO THE HEAD ABOUT THIRTY
MINUTES WALK AWAY FROM THE HOUSE
BEHIND THE TRAIL THAT WAS SHE
ACTUALLY LIVED.
WHEREAS THE MOTHER WHAT HAPPEN
AGAIN SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS
QUITE DISTRAUGHT AND SHE WAS
ABLE TO GET IT DONE.
IN ON THE FRIDAY NIGHT AFTER THE
THE WEDNESDAY COURT DECISION ON
SHE WAS GETTING READY TO GO OUT
BECAUSE EVERYBODY.
BY AND PARENTS THOUGH THAT SHE
WAS GOING TO GO WITH HER FRIENDS
TO CELEBRATE AT LEAST THE
ADOPTION OF HER SON.
OR HER MOTHER UNFORTUNATELY SHE
DID NOT RETURN ON FRIDAY NIGHT
IN OUR EARLY ON A SATURDAY
MORNING SHE WAS REPORTED MISSING
PERSON AND HER CORPSE WAS FOUND.
AGAIN ABOUT THIRTY MINUTES AWAY
FROM WHERE SHE WAS ACTUALLY
LIVING ALSO FOR THAT REASON I
THINK JERRY HAS IMPACT THEM
QUITE A BIT AS A CLINICAL
PSYCHOLOGIST IN PRACTICE AND
THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY REASONS
AS TO WHY I'M SUPPORTING AND
ALSO THE CONFERENCE A COLLEGE
ASSOCIATION.
IS SUPPORTING A B..
NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
EXPERIMENT OF THE CITY OF LONG
BEACH ALSO IN SUPPORT.
MEN SHARE AND CENTERS KOBE
PRESIDED WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PSYCHIATRIC
TECHNICIANS WE TREAT HUNDREDS OF
INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS
EVERY DAY AND WE ARE THE
FRONTLINE CARE PROVIDERS FOR
THESE INDIVIDUALS.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION.
BUT I'M SURE MEMBERS STAND FULL
ASSAULT ON BEHALF LOS ANGELES
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE CRIME
VICTIMS ACTION ALLIANCE IN
SUPPORT.
SO MY AND HER ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST
AND SUPPORT.
CALVIN QUICK PAY AREAS TWO
ACTIVISTS IN SUPPORT.
CORY SOCIAL ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER --
WINCE ISN'T SUPPORT.
OKAY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION AND
WE MAY NEED TO HAVE ROOM AT THE
TABLE FOR THE OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS KIRK CHILD
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA.
WE MUST REGRETFULLY --
OPPOSE THIS BILL --
DRC DOES NOT OPPOSE CERTAINLY
WHAT ARE REASONABLE AND
APPROPRIATE FIREARM RESTRICTIONS --
IN FACT I THINK AS YOU'VE HEARD
TESTIMONY BEFORE THAT NUMBERS
ARE -- QUITE
HIGH ON THE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
ACTUALLY --
COMMIT SUICIDE AND THAT'S OFTEN
DONE WITH ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME --
WITH A WITH A HAND GUN --
THAT WE'RE WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO
US IS THE FACT THAT --
IT RESTRICTS FIRE ARMS OWNERSHIP
FOR AN INDIVIDUAL FOR MORE THAN --
FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIFETIME.
DOES PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
COME BACK FOR A A REVIEW.
AFTER BUT THERE BUT YOU CAN
IMAGINE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL MAY
HAVE HAD A FIFTY TO FIFTY ONE
FIFTY HOLES --
SOMETIME IN THEIR PAST AND THEN
DECADES LATER --
ARE STILL RESTRICTED FROM HAVING
A FIREARM UNLESS THEY CAN COME
IN AND PROVE THE NEGATIVE.
ON THAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF
SAFELY HANDLING VIA THE FIREARMS
ADDITIONALLY.
I THINK WITH THIS BILL OWN
SIGNIFICANTLY LACKS IS THAT --
ANY LINKAGE BETWEEN THE HOLD AND
DANGEROUS NESS.
AND THE INABILITY TO TO HANDLE --
A FIREARM SO THE THE HOLDS CAN
BE FOR CERTAINLY FOR MANY
REASONS.
THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
VIOLENCE THIS PRESUMES THAT --
A PERSON WHO --
THE CAPABLE AND IN FACT --
CAN.
COMMIT VIOLENT ACTS WITH THE
WITH THEIR ARMS.
OF FIREARMS UP AND AND LASTLY
WHAT -- WE
THINK IS.
IMPORTANT IS THAT THE
PRESUMPTION IS ON THE INDIVIDUAL
AS I MENTIONED --
TO ESTABLISH THE ABILITY THAT
THEY HAVE --
CAN SAFELY.
OWN FIREARMS RATHER THAN THE
STATE BEING RESPONSIBLE.
FOR ESTABLISHING THAT THAT IS
NOT THE CASE FOR SO.
OVERLYING ALL OF THIS --
WHICH IS WE BELIEVE UNFORTUNATE
IS THAT IT CREATES SOME --
CERTAINLY STIGMA THAT ATTACH IS
TO PERSONS WHO HAVE MENTAL
ILLNESSES AND THE ASSUMPTION
THAT THOSE MENTAL ILLNESSES --
ARE.
REFLECTIVE OF VIOLENT TENDENCIES
AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE
WOULD OPPOSE THE BILL.
YOU HAVE TO MENTOR AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE LIZZY BEACON
WITH THE ACLU CALIFORNIA
IMPARTIAL WE ARE ALSO IN
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL AND WE CAN AGREE WITH THE
COMMENTS FROM DISABILITY RIGHTS
AND WE ALSO DO NOT OPPOSE GUN
CONTROL MEASURES THAT --
THAT REGULATE THE ACQUISITION
AND USE OF GUNS PROVIDED THAT
THOSE ACTUALLY PRO PROTECT
PUBLIC WELFARE AND PUBLIC SAFETY
AND DO NOT.
VIOLATE CIVIL LIBERTIES --
SO WE DON'T OPPOSE UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND WE DON'T OPPOSE
PROTECTIVE ORDERS THAT REMOVE
GUNS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE
DANGEROUS TO THEMSELVES OR
OTHERS PROVIDED THAT THERE ARE
NON DISCRIMINATORY CRITERIA. FOR
DEFINING DANGEROUS NESS ARM AND
SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE AN ISSUE
WITH THIS BILL --
UNFORTUNATELY THIS AN AXLE NOT A
LIFETIME BAN ONLY ON PEOPLE WITH
A HISTORY OF MENTAL DISABILITY
OR MENTAL ILLNESS --
WHICH DOES IT RAISE SIGNIFICANT
EQUAL PROTECTION AND DUE PROCESS
CONCERNS FOR US.
THE BILL WITH THE BILL
STIGMATIZES PEOPLE WITH MENTAL
ILLNESS AND PERPETUATES.
A VERY HARMFUL AND FULL STEREO
TYPE THAT --
THAT PEOPLE THAT SUCH PEOPLE ARE.
INHERENTLY VIOLENT AND FOR EVER
DANGEROUS.
AND WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE
MORE EFFECTIVE TO RESTRICT GUN
POSSESSION FOR ANYONE WHO'S A
CURRENT DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR
OTHERS.
RATHER THAN USING A HISTORY OF
MENTAL ILLNESS AS A PROXY FOR
DANGEROUS AND AS FOR THE REST OF
THAT PERSON'S LIFE.
ALTERNATIVELY WE WOULD ALSO BE
OPEN TO A MEASURE THAT WOULD
ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO INITIATE
AN AXE AND ACTION TO EXTEND TO
THE EXISTING FIVE YEAR BAN.
AND WE THINK THE GOVERNMENT CAN
CONTROL MEASURES NEED TO STRIKE
A BALANCE BETWEEN PROTECTING
CIVIL LIBERTIES.
AND PROTECTING PUBLIC AFETY AND
PUBLIC WELFARE AND UNFORTUNATELY
WE BELIEVE THAT AB NINETEEN
SIXTY EIGHT WOULD VIOLATE CIVIL
LIBERTIES WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE
THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PROTECT THE
PUBLIC SO FOR THESE REASONS WE
ARE BEST.
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
YES SENATOR MITCHELL GO AHEAD.
IT IS ONE OF CLEAR FIVE AND I'M.
FOLLOWING CELL UNDER CURRENT LAW.
WE'RE YOU'RE PROHIBITED FROM
OWNING A GUN FOR FIVE YEARS
AFTER YOUR FIFTY ONE FIFTY A
WHOLE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS WERE TAKEN.
THAT BASICALLY ALLOW YOU.
A SIMILAR OPTION AFTER FIVE
YEARS.
EXCEPT THAT YOU HAVE TO FILE A
PETITION AS OPPOSE IT GONNA BE
ON AUTO PILOT IS THAT CORRECT.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BUT I'M
HAVING STAFF RIGHT NOW THIS
QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I'M
LOOKING AT ONE OF THE MAIN
[inaudible]
AT LINES IN THE ANALYSIS IT
SEEMS TO BE CONTRARY SO I'M
CRACKING.
SO THE WHEN YOU GET CLEAR MADAM
FOR YOU CAN HELP ME.
BUT THE SUBSEQUENT PETITIONS
ONCE AND NOT THE PRESENTATION
SINCE NINETEEN YEARS.
WITH THAT THE INTERPRETATION CAN
HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
THEN AFTER THAT IF IF THAT WINS
TONIGHT AND THAT OKAY INITIAL
OKAY SO I'VE.
HAD.
CAN I WOULD LIKE THE STAFF TO
MAKE THE CLARIFICATION SO I
DON'T MESS IT UP IN.
THE INITIAL DURING THE INITIAL
PETITION THE GUARD CAN OCCUR
WHICH CAN OCCUR IMMEDIATELY OURS
NOT HAVE TO WAIT FIVE YEARS
RIGHT.
UNDER MINUTES TAKING IN THE
SIMPLY YES.
UNDER CURRENT LAW.
UNDER CURRENT LAW WHICH DOES
BUILD KEEPS YOU CAN PETITION
IMMEDIATELY.
AND THE BURDEN IS ON THE
PROSECUTION TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE
A DANGER.
IF THAT'S THE NIGHT AND ARE
THERE SOME SWIM TENSIONS AFTER
FIVE YEARS THAN THE BURDEN
SHIFTS TO THE PETITIONER ON BY A
PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE.
UNDER.
CURRENT LAW OR SOME UNDER THE AS
AND USE THEM UNDER THE ASSEMBLY
MATHEMATICALLY VERY [inaudible]
RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT OTHER COMMENT FROM THE
DYESS CENTER STONE.
MAKE YOU A MAN UNFAIR --
YOU KNOW WE SEE A LOT OF A GUN
LAWS HERE IN THE IN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY --
ARENA THAT.
IN MY VIEW --
BUT EYES ARE SECOND MEMORIZE
SOME OF THEM KNOW BUT YOU KNOW
I'M ONE THAT BELIEVES THAT OUR
SECOND MAMET WRITES ARE NOT
AND EVIDENCE HAS SHOWN THAT
PEOPLE THAT HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS --
ARE OFTEN.
FOUND HOW THESE IDEOLOGIES WHEN --
GUNS ARE USED WHETHER.
USED TO KILL THEMSELVES OR TWO
OR HEARD OTHERS.
AND I'VE.
I HEARD THE ARGUMENTS ABOUT
STIGMA BUT WE HAD LIKE A STIGMA
VERSUS REALITY.
OF THOSE THAT HAVE MENTAL
ILLNESS ARE.
MORE OFTEN FOUND.
TO USE OF WEAPONS AND HURT
THEMSELVES MORE THAN THE GENERAL
POPULATION I DON'T THINK THAT'S
A GENERALIZATION.
AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING
IS A VERY COMMON SENSE APPROACH.
TO ENSURING THAT WE PROTECT
THOSE THAT HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS
IS NOT THAT WE WANT TO
STIGMATIZE A MISSUS WE DON'T
WANT THEM HURT THEMSELVES OR WE
DON'T AD HURT THEIR THEIR LOVED
ONES AS THE CASE WE EARD ABOUT
THE SUICIDE THAT WAS US
ARTICULATE.
OUT SO -- I
I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING THIS
CALM JUST FOR TODAY [inaudible]
I'M.
BEFORE WE TAKE ROLL CALL IT JUST.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPONENTS
CONCERNS BECAUSE IN FACT THE
DATA WOULD INDICATE THAT.
THE MAJORITY OF GUN VIOLENCE IS
NOT.
OF PERPETRATED BY THOSE WHO ARE
MENTALLY ILL NOW COURSE WE COULD
GET INTO A DEFINITION OF WHAT'S
MENTAL ILLNESS.
BUT BY [inaudible]
AND WHETHER.
WHETHER ANY HOMICIDE THE PERSON
WHO IS COMMITTING THAT HOMICIDE
MAYBE IN THAT MOMENT WITHOUT A
CONTROL OF THEIR FACULTIES.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE CLINICAL
DEFINITIONS OF MENTAL ILLNESS.
OUTSIDE THE DATA WOULD NOT
INDICATE THAT THE MAJORITY OF
GUN VIOLENCE INCIDENTS ARE FROM
PEOPLE MENTALLY ILL AND SO I
APPRECIATE THE PHONES BECAUSE
UNFORTUNATELY.
THERE THERE'S THIS BELIEF THAT
SOMEHOW IF WE COULD JUST KEEP
GUNS OUT OF EVERYBODY'S HANDS
WERE MENTALLY ILL WE WOULD NOT
HAVE.
THESE THIS GUN VIOLENCE OR THIS
HOMICIDES.
IN I THINK THE REALITY IS WE CAN
NECESSARILY --
CONTROL PEOPLE'S A TEMPORARY
DERANGEMENT BECAUSE I WOULD
CONSIDER ANYONE WHO USES A GUN.
AT THE MOMENT OF IT IN MOST
CASES UNLESS CRUEL CLEAR SELF
DEFENSE IS TEMPORARILY DERANGED
BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION
BUT ANYWAY.
BY BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WHAT
THE CONCERN THE OPPOSITION IS
THIS CONTRIBUTES TO THIS.
MYTHOLOGY AND YET I THINK THAT
THE BILL AS AMENDED BY THE
ASSEMBLY.
WELL I WANT TO ADD ONE OTHER
THING.
THE OTHER ISSUE FOR ME WHEN WITH
THIS IN STAFF KNOWS IN TERMS OF
MY EVALUATING IT IS THAT THERE
ARE PEOPLE.
WHO SUBMIT TO A FIFTY ONE FIFTY
ON PURPOSEFULLY?
BECAUSE IF THEY ARE NOT IF THEY
DO NOT.
DO THE FIFTY ONE FIFTY THEY
CANNOT BE TREATED.
THEY CANNOT HAVE THEIR INSURANCE
SIR THERE'S OTHER FACTORS WHERE
THE INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT IN
FACT EVEN THOUGH THEY
VOLUNTARILY INVOLUNTARILY
COMMITTED.
PROVIDES THEM CERTAIN --
COVERAGE AND THE ABILITY TO GET
LONG TERM TREATMENT THAT THEY
MIGHT OTHERWISE NOT.
AND CERTAINLY THOSE PEOPLE YOU
IT'S YOU AND YOU LOOK AT A
SITUATION LIKE THIS AND YOU
THINK OKAY THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO
ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH WHAT
THEY'RE CONFRONTING AND TRYING
TO TREAT IT AND TRYING TO GET
THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION.
AND WHILE I HAVE.
A DIFFERENT VIEW ON WHAT OUR BUT
OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AROUND.%
GUY I BELIEVE THAT OUR
CONSTITUTION SAID A WELL
REGULATED MILITIA AND THUS
ALLOWS US.
GREATLY REGULATES.
THE OWNERSHIP POSSESSION AND USE
OF FIRE ARMS I THINK GIVEN WHAT
WHAT IS BEEN ESTABLISHED SO FAR
IN THE BODY OF LOT WE DO NOT
WANT TO BE.
AN WE DO NOT WANT TO UNFAIRLY.
ISOLATE CERTAIN PEOPLE.
BUT I THINK THE AMENDMENTS THAT
THE ASSEMBLY CRAFTED.
WHICH ALLOW FOR IMMEDIATE
PETITIONER DO NOT INTERFERE WITH
THAT AND ALSO CHANGE THE
PREPONDERANCE.
AND WHO HAS TO PROVE IT.
IT IN FIVE YEARS.
GIVE SOME SAFETY.
THAT ALLOWED ME TO BE ABLE TO DO
AND I RECOMMENDATION THOUGH I DO
WITH.
RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR THE
OPPOSITION.
AND SENATOR MITCHELL.
JUST UGH THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
FOR GETTING THE CLARIFICATION
FOR BOTH OF US IT WAS HELPFUL
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY I I FIND IT CURIOUS THAT
THE AFIREARM OUT THE KIDS
AREN'T HERE --
TESTIFIED IN THIS BILL --
AND AND AND I JUST WOULD HAVE TO
SAY BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE STATISTICS THAT I
REVIEWED FOR VARIETY OF YEARS AS
A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE.
I THINK WHILE IT'S BECOME.
COMMON --
BELIEVE IN VERNACULAR VERTICAL
WE TALK ABOUT MASS SHOOTINGS
THAT IT'S A MIDDLE ILLNESS IF
IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE
VERSES EIGHT ACCESS TO FIREARMS
ISSUE.
THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE
WHO ARE HARMED IN KILLED WITH
FIREARMS OR NOT FOLKS WITH A
DIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS IT
FALLS IN OTHER CATEGORIES YOUNG
VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND
OTHERS.
AND SO I I HEAR YOUR ARGUMENTS --
AND TO GET IT IT AND AGREE WITH
THE CHAIR THAT IS AN UNFAIR
CHARACTERIZATION --
BUT I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
DOES BASED ON THEIR BELIEFS OF
MY DISTRICT IN THE CONSTITUENCY
I REPRESENT.
ABOUT ACCESS TO FIREARMS
GENERALLY.
THE MOTION ON FAMILY MEMBER
LAWYER YOU MAY CLOSE A RESPECT.
FOR OKAY WHAT'S THE ROLL CALL.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER I OR I
ANDERSON.
BRADFORD FAR RIGHT FOR I JACKSON
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN.
DOWN I WINNER.
WINNER I ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU WE WILL GIVE YOU MAY
HAVE SOME OTHER STRAT ON SO.
YEAH WHO HAS WON A OKAY HE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH [inaudible]
I'M.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER STARR NORTH ON
THE FILE YOU WOULD BE SO SORRY
MISTER LOWE DO YOU HAVE A SECOND
BILL YES YES YES OKAY GOSH I AM
SO SORRY I'M JUST CLICK ON YOU
PLEASE PROCEED IN A SHORT YOU
HAVE THE FLOOR UP YOU MAY
PERCEIVE IT TO AN EXPEDITIOUS.
MANNER THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO
LGBT SPECIFIC TRAINING. FOR
PEACE OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS --
WITH ME TODAY IS JOE MIKE ON
BEHALF OF JULIE CALLAHAN FOUNDER
OF THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY OF
POLICE AND SHERIFFS
INTERNATIONAL I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR IT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS JOE MICHAEL
FOR EQUALITY CALIFORNIA WERE
PROUD TO BE THE SPONSOR OF THIS
LEGISLATION.
AND URGE THE COMMITTEE SUPPORT
AND THANK YOU FOR THE TERRIFIC
AND THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND IF YOU
ALL WILL ALLOW ME JUST A LITTLE
BIT OF TIME TO READ.
JULIE CALLAHAN STATEMENT ON HER
BEHALF SHE WAS HERE THIS MORNING
AND WAS NOT ABLE TO STAY SO I
WILL DO THIS BRIEFLY AND
HOPEFULLY DO IT JUSTICE.
I'M JULIE CALLAHAN IS SERVED IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT SINCE NINETEEN
SEVENTY EIGHT WHEN SHE BECAME A
RESERVE POLICE OFFICER FOR THE
FREMONT POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TRY
TO ATTAIN FULL TIME STATUS AS A
POLICE OFFICER WITH THAT AGENCY.
BUT WAS REJECTED BECAUSE SHE
ADMITTED THAT SHE WAS TO AND
ALSO FORCED TO RESIGN FROM THAT
AGENCY AS A RESERVE POLICE
OFFICER SHE LOVED LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND REFUSED TO GIVE
UP ON A CAREER AS A POLICE
OFFICER.
EVENTUALLY SHE WAS HIRED BY THE
SAN JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
WENT ON TO SERVE NEARLY THIRTY
YEARS WITH THAT AGENCY AS A
POLICE OFFICER AND AS A
DETECTIVE.
SHE TRANSITIONED GENDER IS ON
THE JOB IN TWO THOUSAND ONE
WHILE SERVING IN THE SAN JOSE
POLICE DEPARTMENT AS IT DID AS A
DETECTIVE.
AS A MALE PRIOR TO HER GENDER
TRANSITION HIT A STAB US A
REPUTATION AS A GOOD HARD
WORKING HIGH ACHIEVING POLICE
OFFICER WITH AN EXCELLENT WORK
HISTORY.
HOWEVER AFTER HER GENDER
TRANSITION TO FEMALE SHE WAS
FORCED TO RE ESTABLISH HERSELF
NOT ONLY AS A WOMAN BUT ALSO AS
A POLICE OFFICER IT WAS AS IF
SHE HAD NEVER WORKED IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT BEFORE HER
TRANSITION.
AS IF HER PRIOR WORK HISTORY AND
ACHIEVEMENTS HAVE BEEN ERASED
BECAUSE HE WAS NO LONGER
ACCEPTED BY HER PEERS THERE WERE
MANY ISSUES THROUGHOUT THAT
TRANSITION JOURNEY ON THE JOB.
BUT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WAS THE
LACK OF UNDERSTANDING AND
SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD
KNOWN HER FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES
AND ACCEPTED HER.
UNTIL SHE TRANSITIONED GENDERS
AFTER RETIREMENT FROM SAN JOSE
PD MS CALLAHAN WENT ON TO APPLY
FOR POSITIONS AS THE DA
INVESTIGATOR AT VARIOUS AGENCIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
YET IMPECCABLE CREDENTIALS FOR
THE JOB. FOR NEARLY THIRTY YEARS
OF ON FIRST EXPERIENCE.
AND AND A FULL SPECTRUM OF
SKILLS NECESSARY FOR ANY
INVESTIGATORY POSITION SHE
APPLIED AND TESTED AND WAS NOT
SELECTED AT MORE THAN THIRTY
AGENCIES.
SHE WAS EVENTUALLY HIRED AT A
CENTRAL COAST DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND IS NOW
SERVE THERE FOR NEARLY EIGHT
YEARS AND HAS RECEIVED
EXCEPTIONAL REVIEWS.
THE REASON MS CALLAHAN IS SHARED
PART OF HER PERSONAL STORY WITH
YOU ALL THROUGH ME IS THAT SHE'S
NOT ALONE AS A MEMBER OF THE
LGBTQ COMMUNITY SERVING IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
AS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMUNITY
SHE CONNECTS ASSURE YOU THAT
NEARLY ALL PEACE OFFICERS HAVE
SUFFERED IN CHOOSING LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAREERS BECAUSE THEY
CAME OUT OF THE CLOSET ON THE
JOB.
AND THEIR PEERS AND OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT TROUBLE
ACCEPTING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE
HERE SIMPLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT THEIR PERSONAL STATUS
CHANGE MEANT FOR THEIR LIVES
HOWEVER HOW APPEARS SEXUAL
ORIENTATION OR GENDER TRANSITION
WOULD AFFECT THEM ON THE JOB.
THE TRAINING PROPOSED IN A B.
TWO FIVE OR FOUR WILL HELP
MEMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SWORN
AND NON SWORN BY MITIGATING THAT
CONCERN THROUGH EDUCATION.
IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE THEM WITH
ENHANCED SKILLS FOR BETTER
UNDERSTANDING AND BETTER SERVING
THEIR COMMUNITIES AND ITS
MEMBERS WHO IDENTIFY AS LGBTQ.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
AN OLD BROUGHT ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF SAN JOSE AND STRONG
SUPPORT.
THE OTHERS REBECCA GONZALEZ
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN
SPORT.
GEORGE RYAN A SACRAMENTAL LGBT
COMMUNITY CENTER STRONG SUPPORT.
MARCO GEORGE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
WILLIAM AT SOMEBODY HAD BEEN
ASKED BY BAY MAC ARCHERS PART.
BUT I'M SURE MEMBERS COURCELLES
ALONE BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS ASSOCIATION WE'RE NOT
LISTING THE ANALYSIS WE HAD BEEN
FORMALLY OPPOSED WE DID NOT WE
SEND OUR LETTER TO THIS
COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE
PROCESS.
OF REVIEWING THE BILL AS AMENDED
BY THE ASSEMBLY AND I'M PLEASED
TO REPORT THAT BASED UPON THOSE
AMENDMENTS WE ARE NO LONGER
OPPOSED TO THE BILL SO WE'RE NOW
NEUTRAL AND HAVE BETTER PUT THAT.
EXCELLENT THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER OPTIONS
POSITION.
OKAY -- HERB
DID I ASKED FOR THE FORMAL
OPPOSITION THAT WAS THE NEUTRALS
ANY OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
THEY'RE SEEING.
NINE COMMENTS BY MY COLLEAGUES.
SEEING NONE OF THAT.
OKAY IS ONE OF THE PUBLICLY
THANK THE AUTHOR.
FOR MOVING THIS BILL FORWARD
THIS IS EVEN THOUGH IT'S SEEMS
LIKE PERFECT COMMON SENSE AND
THESE BILLS ARE KIND OF THOSE
NEVER EASY AND I ONCE THEY THANK
YOU AND I I THOUGHT IT WAS A CO
AUTHOR ALREADY BUT NOT SO.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE OUT OF YOUR
THEY AM I APPRECIATE.
IT SENATOR SO DID YOU WANT TO
MAKE PHONE OKAY --
SIMILAR LOW I ALSO APPRECIATE
YOUR BRINGING IT NOT ONLY.
FOR THE TRAINING NOT ONLY FOR
THE INTERNAL RELATIONSHIPS
WITHIN A DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF
A OFFICERS.
ON LGBTQ OFFICERS BUT ALSO THAT
TYPE OF TRAINING IMPROVES THE
ABILITY TO RELATE.
TO FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY SO I
THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD MOVE IN
AS SENATOR MITCHELL GO AHEAD.
THIS IS OUR SECOND BILL TODAY
THAT TALKS ABOUT.
THE NEED FOR TRAINING FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT DOES YOUR BILL SIR
HAVE ALL --
FUNDING ASSOCIATED POST TRAINING
IN THEIR BILL NOTICE NOT ALL
THANK YOU AND IT GOT OUT OF
APPROACH NEW SYMBOLE.
OWN.
OKAY YOU MAY CLOSE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR ABOUT.
WELL IT SEVERAL OR DID I GET A
MOTION YEAH [inaudible]
OKAY --
BROKE OFF.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SCANNER.
I HAVE YOUR I. ANDERSON BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I JACKSON MITCHELL.
IT'S ALL EYES DOWN.
DOWN I WINNER WINNER I THANK YOU
NOW WE WILL --
PRECIADO SOME REMEMBER STORY
NORTH YOU'RE ALLOWING MISTER A
DAILY TO GO FIRST SO.
THANKS SO MUCH AND THEN WE WILL
GET TEARS.
SO SOME REMEMBER DAILY WE WILL
HEAR YOUR SIN THIS IS ITEM
FOURTEEN AB.
TWENTY SEVENTY EIGHT THANK YOU
TO THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND
THANK YOU TO MISTER STEIN NORTH
FOR THE COURTESY.
I'M ACCEPTING THE DOUBLE
JOINTING AMENDMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE TO INSURED CODE
CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THIS BILL
AND THE COMMITTEE'S OMNIBUS BILL.
THIS BILL CLOSES A LOOPHOLE IN
CURRENT LAW.
IT ENSURES IT WILL ENSURE THAT
ACCUSED PERSONS ARE PROPERLY
PUNISHED FOR SEXUAL BATTERY AND
OTHER SEX OFFENSES THAT ARE
UNFORTUNATELY OCCASIONALLY
COMMITTED DURING THE COURSE OF A
PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
THESE PERPETRATORS SERVE IN
POSITIONS OF TRUST SUCH AS
MASSAGE THERAPISTS CHIROPRACTORS
ARE PHYSICAL THERAPISTS.
THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW
PROSECUTORS TO PURSUE EITHER
MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY CHARGES
DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE
CRIMES.
AND OF SOMETIMES THE REPETITION
OF THE CRIMES.
WITH ME TODAY IS ROBERT MESS MEN
SENIOR DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
WITH THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
GO AHEAD SIR THANK YOU --
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS.
OM SUPERVISING THE ORANGE COUNTY
DA'S OFFICE PROSECUTED SEXUAL
ASSAULT OFFENSES FOR SEVERAL
YEARS I TEACH STATEWIDE ON THE
ISSUES.
ARM THERE IS A A LOOPHOLE IN THE
LAW THAT ALLOWS US CERTAIN
PROVIDERS.
THAT PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES USUALLY DOCTORS
CHIROPRACTORS MASSAGE THERAPISTS
ALWAYS IN A POSITION OF TRUST
AND POWER.
OVER THEIR VICTIMS AND THE
VICTIMS ARE ALWAYS VULNERABLE
THEY'RE USUALLY WOMEN ALONE IN
AN EXAM ROOM OR MASSAGE ROOM.
INTO SOME SYSTEM STATE OF
UNDRESS.
AND THE LOOPHOLE LAW IS IF A
PERPETRATOR COMMITS A FORCIBLE
SEX CRIME USING FORCE OR
VIOLENCE THAT CAN EITHER BE
PROSECUTED AS A FORCIBLE RAPE
OTHER SEX CRIMES.
IF HE PERPETRATOR.
BASICALLY TRICKS THE VICTIM BY
FRAUD INTO ALLOWING THE SEXUAL
CONDUCT TO OCCUR --
UNDER THE BELIEF THAT IT'S PART
OF THE TREATMENT OF THE MASSAGE
OR THE MEDICAL CONDITION.
THAT CAN ALSO BE PROSECUTED WE
HAVE A LOT OF CASES WHERE DURING
AN EXAM OR DURING THE MASSAGE
EVEN THOUGH THE VICTIM IS NOT
CONSENTED THE PERPETRATOR JUST
COMMITS A SEXUAL ASSAULT.
SOMETIMES VERY.
SIX SERIOUS SEXUAL ASSAULTS
PENETRATION A RAPE ORAL
COPULTION.
AND THERE'S A LOOPHOLE WHERE
THOSE CASES CAN'T BE PROSECUTED
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FORCIBLE AND
THEY'RE ALSO NOT CONSIDERED
UNDER THE FRAUD STATUTES BECAUSE
CONSENT WAS NEVER.
OBTAINED BY THE VICTIM I THERE
ARE SEVERAL CASES PUBLISHED ON
PUBLISHED WERE CONVICTIONS FOR
VERY SERIOUS.
OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT OFFENSES
INVOLVING RAPE.
ART PENETRATION ORAL COPULATION
HAVE BEEN REVERSED.
ARM AND THERE'S ALSO UNTIL NOW
WHERE PROSECUTORS ARE PROHIBITED
FROM PROCEEDING ON SERIOUS
CHARGES.
SOMETIMES THESE ARE JUST LEFT AS
EITHER MISDEMEANORS.
ARM OR NO PROSECUTION AT ALL AND
A MISDEMEANOR FOR AN ACT OF RAPE
OR SEXUAL PENETRATION ORAL
COPULATION DOESN'T SEEM
APPROPRIATE.
GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARM.
THE LOOPHOLE WAS POINTED OUT A
BACK IN TWO THOUSAND SEVEN BY
THE COURT OF APPEALS IN THE
STUDENT CASE WHERE THEY SAID
QUOTE.
IF THERE'S A STATUTORY OVERSIGHT
IN THIS AREA THE PENAL LAW THE
LEGISLATURE MAY ADDRESS IT ON
QUOTE SO THAT'S I READ THAT AS
pOF APPEALS TO FIX THIS OVERSIGHT.
AND I KNOW I'LL NOTE THAT A LAST
YEAR OTHERS A STUDY DONE WERE A
HUNDRED AND EIGHTY WOMEN WERE
VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.
JUST BY ONE COMPANY MASSAGE MD
SO I THINK IT IS A SERIOUS
PROBLEM --
IT'S IT'S A LIMITED FIX UP BUT
IT DOES FOR THE FOR THE VICTIMS
OF THESE CRIMES.
I THINK IS TO BE AN IMPORTANT
FIX SO I WOULD ASK YOU --
TO HELP CORRECT THIS LOOPHOLE ON
AND I THINK IT IS THE BILL THAT
MISTER DALY'S RUNNING --
I THINK A SATISFIES THE INTENT
OF THE LEGISLATURE WHEN THEY
ENACTED THE ORIGINAL LAWS TO
PROSECUTE THESE TYPE.
OF CASES THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SHAWN HOP INTO THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT [inaudible]
RIGHT.
ANY IN OPPOSITION.
COMMENT FROM THE DICE.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SUMMARY DAILY WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND
HOPE YOU WILL VOTE YES THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
LIBERAL COUGH.
MOTION IS TO PASS AS MENDED TO
APPROPRIATION SKINNER RIGHT IN
OUR I ANDERSON BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN [inaudible]
WINNER.
BILLS ON CALL AND WE WILL NOW GO.
TO I THINK YOU HAVE KNOW WHETHER
SHE WAS JUST ONE CORRECT JUST
THIS ONE THANK YOU THANK YOU SO
NOW WE'LL GO TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
STARR NORTH.
AND THAT IS ITEM. TEN AB.
NINETEEN THIRTY NINE THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR MAY PERCEIVE. EIGHTY
NINETEEN THIRTY NINE WILL HELP
SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM ABUSIVE
SITUATIONS WHILE MAINTAINING THE
SAFETY OF THEIR PETS.
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT OVER 49%
OF FEMALE SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE REPORTED THREAT OR HARM
TO THEIR ANIMALS.
THIS FEAR OF ABUSE TO VICTIMS
PAT HAS COST UP 2408% OF
SURVIVORS TO DELAY LEAVING AN
ABUSIVE ENVIRONMENT DUE TO THE
CONCERNED FOR THEIR PET SAFETY.
AB NINETEEN THIRTY NINE SIX TO
REMEDY THIS OBSTACLE BY ALLOWING
SURVIVORS TO HAVE THEIR PET
BOARDING REIMBURSED WHILE THEY
FLEE AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE AND I'M JOINED BY SUSAN
BREAKS FROM THE A SPC A AND
SUPPORT.
THE AFTERNOON THANK YOU --
YEAH AS MEN TEND --
TO DUBBED THE POTENTIAL FOR
RETALIATION AGAINST A PAD IS
REALLY SIGNIFICANT IN THE CASE
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT
VIOLENCE THE OP HAD OFTEN
BECOMES A SURROGATE FOR THE
VICTIM AND I'M AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION WHEN A VICTIM NEEDS TO
MOVE OUT.
IN A REALLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
THEY'RE REALLY VERY FEW
ALTERNATIVES IN THE MARKET FOR
THEM TO TAKE THEIR PETS WITH
THEM SO THIS WOULD OPEN UP A
CHANNEL WHERE THEY CAN HAVE
TEMPORARY BOARDING.
WHILE THEY GET ON THEIR FEET AND
WHILE THEY CAN ESTABLISH A MORE
PERMANENT HOUSING OPTIONS THAT
WOULD INCLUDE THEIR PATH.
I'M I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
SO ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
CHRISTINE SMITH AT THE
CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIP AND THE
MYSTIC VIOLENCE AND WE'RE
PLEASED TO COSPONSOR THIS BILL
WITH THE SPCA.
EXCELLENT ANY OTHER SO ANY
OPPOSITION.
SCENE [inaudible]
NINE THE ONLY.
I THINK IT'S AT APPROPRIATE BILL
I THINK IT'S THE UNFORTUNATE
THAT THE VICTIMS COMPENSATION
BOARD IS.
INADEQUATELY FUNDED TO PROVIDE
APPROPRIATE SUPPORT TO THE
VICTIMS FROM THE WHOLE VARIETY
OF BUT IT'S STILL APPROPRIATE TO
ADD THIS TO WHAT'S ON ALLOWABLE.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS.
GREAT OKAY AND GOOD WHO WORRIES
AND YOU MAY CLOSE BY JUST ONE
SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AS AS
WAS STATED.
BY MISTER X. YOU KNOW A LOT OF
THE LADIES THAT ARE FINDING
THEMSELVES STAYING IN THESE
ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS THEY FEEL
THAT THEY HAVE THE CHOICE
BETWEEN ABANDONING ONE OF THEIR
CHILDREN OR STAYING IN THAT
RELATIONSHIP AND AND WE WANT TO
TRY AND REMEDY THAT AND GIVE
THEM THE RESOURCES.
SO THAT THEY CAN LEAVE THAT
RELATIONSHIP AND THAT IS ABUSIVE
AND BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR
CHILDREN WITH THEM RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN I PO.
ALRIGHT WE WILL DO A ROLL CALL.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER RIGHT
INNER EYE ANDERSON.
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN WINNER.
EXCELLENT BILL WOULD BE ON CALL
THANK YOU THANK YOU [inaudible]
RIGHT
.
HOW YOUR ITEM THIRTEEN SIMPLY
MEMBER SANTIAGO AB?
TWO THOUSAND TWO ZERO ZERO FIVE
THE COMMAND CHAIR.
AB TWO THOUSAND FIVE WOULD
REINSTATE LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
ABILITY TO REPORT --
SUBSTANTIATED CASES OF CHILD
ABUSE ACT. TWO THE DOJ US CHILD
ABUSE ON CENTRAL INDEX DATABASE
I WILL BE BRIEF ON MY COMMENTS
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
AND THE HAVE THE WITNESSES ALSO
BE BRIEF THANKS.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS SUB
LIEUTENANT RAN UP THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT THESE CO SPONSORS OF
THE BILL.
WHAT WE WANNA DO IS RESTORE THE
KHAKI DATABASE INTO A USEFUL
TOOL THAT WAS DESIGNED TO BE BY
GIVING US OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
THE ABILITY?
TO ENTER SUBSTANTIATED CASES --
AND WITHOUT A I HAVE OWNED ONE
INTRODUCE CAPTAIN CARLOS MARKERS
WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY FAIR
FORM SPECIAL VICTIMS BUREAU AND
IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AN ANSWER I VOTE.
THANK YOU I AM CARLOS MARQUEZ
CAPTAIN WITH THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE SUPPORT THE BILL.
AND I ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE AND I
WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
MAY HAVE THANK YOU.
I'M ANY OTHER VICTIMS OF
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IF THEY GO
TO THE MIKE YES.
RANGER WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION IN SPORT
THINGS.
LIEUTENANT SILLY SO WILLIAM
SALMON TODAY NO SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT AND SUPPORT.
SHOP IN CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
JOCELYN GATES LA COUNTY IN
SUPPORT.
BRENDA ROBERTS THE HELP OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA HERE IN
SUPPORT.
DAN FALLS ON OUR BEHALF LESSONS
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE.
JOHN LEVEL ASSOCIATION OF DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND LA COUNTY
PROFESSIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
[inaudible]
MY YES THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON CATHY SURE FOR
THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA I'M WE
REMAIN IN OPPOSITION EIGHTY TWO
THOUSAND AND FIVE I'M I DO WANT
TO START BY THANKING ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SANTIAGO AND HIS STAFF
FOR WORKING WITH US ON THAT.
THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE RAISED
AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD
WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT IN AND
HOPE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THEM TO RESOLVE OUR CONCERNS.
ON THAT SAID WE REMAIN OPPOSED
TO THE BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
REQUIRING LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES PROCEDURES THAT ARE
QUOTE CONSISTENT WITH THE
PROCEDURE SET OUT IN THE
EXISTING DSS REGULATIONS IS
INSUFFICIENT TO ENSURE THAT ALL
PERSONS PUT ON TO THE CHILD
ABUSE CENTRAL INDEX.
RECEIVE THE PROTECTIONS OFFERED
UNDER THOSE REGULATIONS ONE
AGENCIES IDEA OF WHAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCEDURES
MAY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT FROM
ANOTHER AGENCIES.
AND THE END RESULT COULD BE A
PATCHWORK OF DIFFERENT SETS OF
NOTIFICATION AND GRIEVANCE
PROCEDURES AROUND THE STATE SOME
ADEQUATE AND SOME UNFORTUNATELY
NOT.
YET NO MATTER WHAT JURISDICTION
PUT SOMEONE ON THE INDEX THAT
PERSON PACES THE SAME POTENTIAL
CONSEQUENCES AFFECTING THEIR
ABILITY TO WORK IN CHILD RELATED
PROFESSIONS ADOPTING.
OR BECOMING A FOSTER PARENT.
FROM THE UNDER PROVEN
ACCUSATIONS.
THE ACLU HAS GRAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT ANY GOVERNMENT DATABASE
WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE LISTED
SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF
ACCUSATIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
PROVED IN A COURT OF LAW.
AT A MINIMUM THE STANDARDS AND
PROCEDURES FOR CHALLENGING A
LISTING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AS
STATEWIDE AND HELD TO THE
HIGHEST STANDARDS --
AGAIN WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING
BUT TO WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR
OF THE BILL MOVES FORWARD.
TODAY TO ENSURE FAIR PROCEDURES
STATEWIDE FOR CHALLENGING A
LISTENING ARE PUT IN PLACE.
YES SENATOR MITCHELL THANK YOU
VERY MUCH --
TO THE AUTHOR THROUGH THE CHAIR --
FIRST OF ALL I THINK THERE'S A
HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
SUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS AN ACTUAL
CONVICTION THAT I THINK THAT WAS
MENTIONED BUT MY SPECIFIC
QUESTION.
IS I SERVED.
ON THE SOME THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE BACK INTO WHEN THIS IS
THE ONE THAT THEN CHEER AMENDED
THE LAW.
ADDING DUE PROCESS TO ADDRESS A
NUMBER OF ONGOING ISSUES WITH
THE INDEX WE'VE SEEN A A NUMBER
OF THE ALWAYS PUT IT BACK ON
LISTEN INDEX THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT MAINTAIN OFTEN HAVE.
SOME STUCTURAL ISSUES TO GANG
DATABASE A NUMBER OF THEM AND I
AND AS I RECALL THIS ONE DID AS
WELL.
AT THAT TIME HE PROHIBIT LAW
ENFORCEMENT FROM REPORTING
ELIGIBLE CASES TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE.
FOLKS CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE
RATIONALE NOW FOR REVERSING.
THAT PROHIBITION LOOK FOR SARS
START OUT BY SAYING WE'RE HAPPY
TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
ACLU WE BELIEVE WE ALL WANT TO
GET THE SAME PLACE --
NOT NOT HAVING SAID THAT.
THERE IS DUE PROCESS IN PLACE
NOW.
IN AND THERE'S A PROCESS TO
APPEAL I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
EXISTED IN TWO THOUSAND AND
TWELVE AND THAT WAS SET UP.
ON YOU KNOW I'M HAPPY TO
CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THAT BUT
AT THE END THE DAY WE WANT TO
TRY TO FIND A WAY TO PROTECT A
CHILD WHO COULD BE POTENTIALLY
IN HARM'S WAY I MEAN THAT'S THE
GOAL SUN MOON THE CONTINUAL
CONVERSATION A BIT.
IN THAT YEAR HE PUT HE ACTUALLY
ADDED TO THE DUE PROCESS
MEASURES AND SO I'M STILL
NEEDING SOME CLARIFICATION.
AS TO WHY.
AND I'M SORRY CAN YOU CAN HEAR
THAT BUT ON REPHRASE YOUR
QUESTION I'M SORRY [inaudible]
THAT SAME.
SO MY QUESTION IS SO IN.
TWENTY ELEVEN THE FORMER CHAIR
ADDED DUE PROCESS HE ALSO-PROHIBITED.
THE REFERRAL TO DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE SO I'M JUST TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND WHY WE NOW ARE GOING
BACK AND I GOT A CHANGE CURRENT
LAW DUE PROCESS WAS ADDED AT
THAT POINT AS I RECALL.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING.
IF THERE IS A NEW REASON WHY WE
WANT TO REVERSE POLICY THAT'S ON
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
YEAH THE CHAIR OF WHEN THEY
REMOVE LAW ENFORCEMENT WHAT THAT
DID THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE
OF THAT WAS.
CPS DCFS AGENCIES.
ONLY INVESTIGATE A INSTANCE
WHERE THERE'S ENTER FROM ILLEGAL
ABUSE OR NEGLECT ALL SO SINCE.
TWENTY TWELVE ALTHOUGH THERE'S
BEEN NO.
AT ANY INSTANCE INVOLVING IT'S A
TEACHER OR A COACH WHO HAD ON
FAMILIAR MEMBER NON FROM IT OKAY
NOT IMPACTS OF THE NOT IN DOJ SO
WHEN.
SCHOOLS AND SUCH.
REFERENCE THOSE INSTANCES
[inaudible]
GOT IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
CLEAR.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ASKED THE
QUESTION BECAUSE JUST NOW I WAS
ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS OF
STAFF BECAUSE HAVING SOMEONE WHO
ARE PROBABLY LIKE YOU VOTED FOR
THAT BILL AT THE TIME --
YEAH.
SAY AGAIN SO IT.
THEY SHOW YOU DO YOU WANT TO ADD
COMMENT TO THAT SINCE WE'RE
DISCUSSING I MAKE US PLEASE.
I'M I I THINK ANOTHER DIFFERENCE
THOUGH IS THAT THAT.
ON MON FORSMAN CASES CAN RESULT
IN IN A CONVICTION ON WHEN
SOMEONE IS IS ARRESTED --
FOR HER CHILD ABUSE OR HIGH AND
POTENTIALLY PROSECUTED THEN IT'S
NOT THAT THAT THAT DISAPPEARS
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO ON TO THIS
PARTICULAR DATABASE IF THERE'S A
CONVICTION OF COURSE THERE ARE
OF THAT CONVICTION IS REFLECTED
ON OTHER DATABASES --
WE WOULD ARGUE DATABASES THAT
ARE MORE APPROPRIATELY USED FOR
THE PURPOSES THAT THAT KHAKI IS
USED [inaudible]
FOR YEAH.
YOUR CONCERNS AROUND THEIR FEET
FOR THE YES SO ON AND ON AND
APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T
LOOKED AT THAT THAT ASPECT OF IT
BECAUSE I I THINK WHAT WHAT
WE'VE FOCUSED ON ON WITH REGARD
TO THE THE CURRENT VERSION OF
THE BILL --
THERE WAS A COURT CASE THAT --
PUT IN PLACE THAT WAS SETTLED IN
A WAY THAT REQUIRED SOCIAL
SERVICE AGENCIES TO IT HERE TO
HAVE FAIRLY SPECIFIC
NOTIFICATION AND GRIEVANCE
PROCEDURES.
YES THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT I THINK THE
INTENTION AS I UNDERSTAND IT --
OF OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL
WERE TO GET LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
FOLLOW ESSENTIALLY THOSE SAME
PROCEDURES.
OM WHERE CONCERNED THAT THE
LANGUAGE THING CONSISTENT WITH
IS NOT ADEQUATE TO GUARANTEE
THAT IT WILL BE THE SAME
PROCEDURES THAT THAT ARE
REQUIRED FOR THE SOCIAL SERVICE
AGENCIES.
SO GIVEN THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING
THIS TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND
YOU MAY HAVE JUST CLARIFIED THIS
BUT THAT.
AMIR WAS BILL. FOR THE TWENTY
ELEVEN BILL.
REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO INCLUDE THIS AND
AND THIS BILL DOES NOT UNDO.
THAT PORTFOLIO DO THAT IT JUST
AUTHORIZES IT DOESN'T REQUIRE
THEM BUT AUTHORIZES THAT THEY
HAVE THE ABILITY.
TO BUT IT'S CORRECT CORRECT
[inaudible]
EXACTLY DIDN'T.
THE PREVIOUS SET WITH THE
PREVIOUS SECTION WAS IT HAD BEEN
STATUTE THAT THE ONE PERSON WAS
REQUIRED AN ARMY ANA REMOVED THE
REQUIREMENT.
SO WE'RE NOT ADDING BACK THE
REQUIREMENT YEARS PHYLLIS OUT OF
YOUR STATE.
RIGHT IT'S ADDING BACK THE
OPTION AND IT'S ALLOWING IT TO
BE NON FAMILIAL.
BECAUSE IT THE OTHER PART WAS --
I DON'T KNOW OF SILENT ON THE
MATTER WHATEVER.
TIME.
NOW I STILL THINK THAT.
ACLU DOES HAVE A LEGITIMATE
CONCERN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MY
STAFF WAS WORKING WITH.
THE AUTHOR NDC YOU TO TRY TO
COME UP WITH LANGUAGE AND THEY
HAVEN'T LANDED ON IT YET SO WHAT
I WOULD LIKE IS A COMMITMENT
FROM THE AUTHOR TO TO CONTINUE
TO WORK.
WITH THE ACLU BECAUSE THIS IS
MOVING ON TO A PROBES. TO SEE
WHETHER YOU CAN LAND ON
SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK I
WOULD LIKE THAT COMMITMENT I
KNOW.
THESE THINGS AREN'T ALWAYS
ACHIEVABLE I KNOW ALSO THAT IF
THERE'S WILLINGNESS BY STAKE
HOLDERS SOMETIMES WE CAN GET TO
YES SO.
I WOULD I WOULD LIKE THAT.
IF THAT EXPRESSION OF
WILLINGNESS TO TRY.
TO IN THIS CASE YES.
OKAY.
I'M ALRIGHT WITH THAT SAID.
OF SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY THEN IS THERE A MOTION.
ALRIGHT AND THEN I WOULD LIKE.
SOME MEMBER SANTIAGO YOU MAY
CLOSE.
RESPECT LAST NIGHT ABOUT
[inaudible]
OKAY.
VERY ROLL CALL THE MOTION IS THE
PAST TWO APPROPRIATION SKINNER.
I INNER EYE ANDERSON BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN.
STONE I WINNER WINNER I RIGHT.
THANK YOU I THINK THAT'S YOUR
ONLY BILL SO I THINK WE NOW GO
TO LET'S SEE WHAT MEMBERS DO I
HAVE IN THE ROOM.
BUT ASSEMBLY MEMBER RUBIO IT IS --
ITEM FIFTEEN AB.
TWENTY ONE TWENTY FOUR THANK YOU
AND GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS ON
BEHALF OF THE LEGISLATIVE
WOMEN'S CAUCUS ASSEMBLYMEMBER
BAKER AND I WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT AB TWENTY ONE TWENTY
FOUR WHICH ADDRESSES THE NEED.
FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR
VERTICAL PROSECUTION PROGRAMS
AND CASES OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HUMAN TRAFFICKINGIS A FORM OF
MODERN DAY SLAVERY ONE THAT
INVOLVES FORCE OR FRAUD TO USE A
PERSON FOR LABOR OR SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION.
APPROXIMATELY 1-400-021-7000
VICTIMS AREN'T TRAFFIC IT
TRAFFIC IT INTO THE UNITED
STATES ANNUALLY BETWEEN TWENTY
TEN TWENTY TWELVE CALIFORNIA'S
NINE REGIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING
TASK FORCES.
IDENTIFIED ONE THOUSAND TWO
HUNDRED IN TWO THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO
INVESTIGATIONS ARRESTED ONE
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND
NINETY EIGHT INDIVIDUALS.
I PROVIDED CRITICAL TRAINING TO
MORE THAN TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND
LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL
PROSECUTORS VICTIM SERVICES
PROVIDERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS
IN CASES INVOLVING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
VERTICAL PROSECUTION TEAMS ARE
BETTER EQUIPPED FOR PROSECUTION.
VERTICAL PROSECUTION UNITS
INVOLVE ONE OR MORE STAFF
ATTORNEYS THAT SPECIALIZE IN A
SPECIFIC AREA IN THIS CASE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING TO HANDLE A CASE.
FROM ARRAIGNMENT TO CONVICTION
OR START TO FINISH RATHER THAN
DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS HANDLING
DIFFERENT STAGES OF THE
PROSECUTION HERE WITH ME THE
FAMILY MEMBER BAKER.
WITH SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND DEATH
THINK YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
TO OUR GOOD COLLEAGUE AS A
MEMBER RUBIO FOR HAVING THIS
BILL IT PARTICULARLY IS
IMPORTANT BECAUSE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS THE FASTEST
GROWING CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE THE
UNITED STATES.
AND CALIFORNIA THE FBI HAS TEN
TOP TEN LOCATIONS IN THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY.
OF THAT ARE THE WORST LOCATIONS
FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING THREE OF
THEM ARE IN CALIFORNIA NOW ON A
CONTINUUM OR SPECTRUM OF WAYS IN
WHICH WE CAN FIGHT IN COMBAT
THIS GREAT ENTERPRISE ARE MANY
ISSUES OF CREATING AWARENESS.
PREVENTION.
BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES MAKING SURE
THAT WE FULLY PROSECUTE AND GET
BEHIND BARS THOSE WHO ARE DOING
THESE CRIMES IN A WAY THAT IS
VICTIM CENTRIC AND THAT'S WHAT
VERTICAL PROSECUTION DOES.
IT'S NOT ONLY TO HAVE BETTER A
PROSECUTION OF THOSE CASES SO
THAT THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE
PLAYED DOWN TO LESSER CRIMES
LIKE BEING A PROSTITUTION BUT
YOU CAN FULLY PROSECUTE SOMEONE
WHO IS COMMITTING.
HUMAN TRAFFICKING THE THE
PROSECUTORS GET GOOD AT THOSE
CASES BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO
SPECIALIZE IN THEM BUT IT IS
VICTIM CENTRIC MANY OF THESE
VICTIMS ARE UNABLE OR UNWILLING
TO COOPERATE AND NATIONALLY.
THEIR MOST RECENT RELATIONSHIP
IS WITH SOMEONE WHO IS TRAFFIC
IN THEM AND ABUSING THEM VERY
SIMILAR TO SPOUSAL ABUSE
SYNDROME THAT YOU SOMETIMES SEE
IN THE LAW OR THE WITNESSES ARE
UNLIKELY TO HELP.
IN THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE
CASES AND HAVING THE SAME
PROSECUTOR THAT THE VICTIM CALLS
AND FINDS IN THE PROSECUTOR'S
OFFICE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FIND
OUT WHERE THEIR CASES WHEN AND
WHERE THEY NEED TO SHOW UP AND
WHAT WHAT'S THE NEXT TIME FOR
INTERVIEW.
INSTEAD OF A NEW PERSON EVERY
TIME A FOR THE VICTIM AS WELL
AND THEN OF COURSE THE STATE CAN
DO MORE TO BE HELPING THOSE
VICTIMS ONCE.
ONCE OR ABLE TO HELP THEM
RECOVER THIS IS A KEY COMPONENT.
WE FOUND THREE STUDIES AND IN
FACT THIS BODY BEFORE MANY OF US
WERE HERE DID DID THEIR RESEARCH
TO FIND THAT VERTICAL
PROSECUTION IS ONE OF THE BEST
THINGS WE CAN DO TO FIGHT HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IN CALIFORNIA --
AND NOW WE NEED TO PUT THE
SUPPORT BEHIND THAT RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOU'RE EITHER WITH US TODAY
WE HAVE.
JOHN HOFFMAN FROM THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR SHOP OF CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT OF AB --
TWENTY ONE TWENTY FOUR AND ONE
OF RESTATE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
TO HAVE THE STRUCTURE WHERE
THERE IS THAT RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE PROSECUTOR IN THE
VICTIM.
WOULD GIVE EXAMPLE IN ALAMEDA
COUNTY WHERE DISTRICT ATTORNEY
NANCY O'MALLEY HAS A RESEARCH
INSTITUTE IS LOOKED AT THE
TRAUMA SUFFERED BY VICTIMS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING ONE OF THE
COMMONALITIES THAT THEY FOUND IN
TALKING TO OVER A HUNDRED
SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
IS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
TRAFFIC TRAFFIC AND PARTICULARLY
THOSE WHO'VE BEEN SEX TRAFFICKED
IS A DAY OF MANY LAYERS OF OF
TRAUMA STARTING WITH EARLY
CHILDHOOD HAVING A HOME LIFE
THAT ASN'T SAFE --
WITH EXPERIENCE SEXUAL ASSAULT
SEXUAL ABUSE ON INTO HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
THE SURVIVORS ARE SPOKEN AT
LENGTH ABOUT THE LACK OF
STABILITY OR CONSISTENCY
THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES MOVING
FROM FOSTER HOME TO FOSTER HOME
SOCIAL WORKER TO SOCIAL WORKER.
THAT SORT OF CONSTANT CHANGE IN
CHAOS BREEDS VULNERABILITY
THAT'S PREYED UPON BY
TRAFFICKERS INTO THEIR
EXPERIENCE IN ALAMEDA COUNTY
HAVING PROSECUTED ALMOST SIX
HUNDRED HUMAN TRAFFICKERS.
THE VERTICAL PROSECUTION MODEL
ISN'T HELPFUL JUST IN TERMS OF
BRINGING THESE PERPETRATORS
EX-PLAYER'S TO JUSTICE.
BUT AS A SIMILAR NUMBER BAKER
SAID ITS VICTIM CENTRIC IT
BEGINS TO REPAIR THAT VICTIM AND
BRING SOME STABILITY TO THEIR
LIVES.
WHICH LAST LONG BEYOND THE
OUTCOME TO TRY BECAUSE OF THESE
GRANTS IS THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
IS A PROBLEM NOT JUST IN THE
URBAN WELL RESOURCE COUNTIES.
IN OUR STATE BUT BUT THROUGHOUT
THE STATE AND GRANTS BEING
FUNDED --
THE WOULD BE FUNDED BY THIS --
SHOULD MONEY BE APPROPRIATED
GIVE OTHER COUNTIES THE ABILITY.
TO RESTORE VICTIMS AND PROSECUTE
HIM TRAFFICKING AS EFFECTIVELY
AS THEY DO IN ALAMEDA COUNTY SO
WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS IN
SUPPORT OF JOHN LEVEL ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND THE LA
COUNTY PROFESSIONAL PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
AS ASSEMBLYMEMBER BAKER
INDICATED FACES A GROWING
CRIMINAL PROBLEM ABOUT DUMB A
TWO YEARS AGO.
I WAS WATCHING A NEWS PROGRAM ON
TELEMUNDO AND ONE OF THE
COMMENTATORS MADE A CHILLING
OBSERVATION.
SHE SAID THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HAD NOW BECOME THE NUMBER TWO
INCOME STREAM FOR THE CARTELS
AND SHE WENT ON AHEAD OF
KIDNAPPING.
AHEAD OF EXTORTION AND AHEAD OF
MURDER FOR HIRE IT SOUNDED LIKE
A BUSINESS.
ANALYSIS BUT IS VERY CHILLING
THIS IS A VERY APPROPRIATE BILL
WE STRONGLY SUPPORTED THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS.
YOUR MEMBERS JOHN FELDMAN
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT.
RANGER IN RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT AS WELL.
IT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS IN
SUPPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
YOU COULD MAKE VIA THANK YOU.
MARGOT GEORGE FROM THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION WE'RE NOT IN
OPPOSITION TO THE SUBSTANCE OF
THIS BILL WHAT WE'RE IN
OPPOSITION TO IS THAT IT
PROVIDES FUNDING FOR DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS OFFICES AND NO
COMMENSURATE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC
DEFENDER OFFICES.
THE DISPARATE TREATMENT OF
PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICES IS
ALREADY EXIST STATEWIDE PUBLIC
DEFENDER OFFICES ARE --
AND EVERY INSTANCE.
OF FUNDED AT A LOWER LEVEL AND
WITH BOTH COUNTY FUNDS AND WITH
STATE GRANTS --
COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICES
COULD NOT ADEQUATELY PROVIDE
CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED
CRIMINAL DEFENSE TO INDIGENTS
WHEN DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICES
GET.
ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND PUBLIC
DEFENDER OFFICES DO NOT --
ONE OF THE PROPONENTS MENTIONED
ALAMEDA COUNTY WELL ALAMEDA
COUNTY IS A COUNTY.
ON WHERE BOTH THE D. EIGHTY AND
THE PD ARE RELATIVELY WELL
FUNDED.
ON HOWEVER BOMB IN THE TWENTY
SEVENTEEN TWENTY EIGHTEEN FINAL
BUDGET.
INCLUDED FUNDING FOR MORE THAN
THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT
FULL TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS.
IN THE DA'S OFFICE WITH THE NET
SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS WILD ON
FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.
THERE WAS ONLY FUNDING FOUR
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO FULL
TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS AND
THE NET COUNTY COST OF FORTY
FOUR POINT FIVE MILLION.
THIS STOCK SCRAP AND SEE IS OR
DESPAIR HE HAS MUCH WORSE IN
SOME COUNTIES AND RESULTS AN
OVERWHELMING CASE LOADS.
IN FRESNO COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE ON
PUBLIC DEFENDERS HAVE CASELOADS
THAT ARE FOUR TIMES THE
RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM OF A HUNDRED
FIFTY AND OF THE LEGISLATURE HAS
SHOWN THAT IT CAN PROVIDE.
ON THIS KIND OF VERTICAL ON
PROSECUTION FUNDING FOR BOTH THE
DEFENSE AND THE PROSECUTION IN
THE PAST.
WE HAVE HAD IN THE GRANT IN THE
PAST GRANTS FOR THE VERTICAL
PROSECUTION OF CAREER CRIMINALS
WHICH PROVIDED BOTH MONEY FOR D.
A. OFFICES AND FOR PUBLIC
DEFENDER OFFICES.
NOW THIS MAY SEEM LIKE IT'S JUST
A BUDGET MATTER BUT IT'S NOT
BECAUSE THIS KIND OF AN EQUAL
FUNDING.
EVENTUALLY CONTINUES TO ROAD
PUBLIC CONFIDENCE.
IN OUR JUSTICE.
SO WE ASK FOR YOUR NOTEBOOK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE
YOUR PERSPECTIVE --
ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE SOME
OF THE AUTHORS IS --
THERE'S NO CURRENT PROHIBITION
FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TO USE
THEIR EXISTING FINDING.
ALL FOUR VERTICAL PROSECUTION
CORRECT.
THERE ISN'T A PROHIBITION ERA
AND I I THINK OUR AS A DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S MADE MAY POINT OUT AS
THEY HAVE IN THE PAST IS THAT
THIS THIS IS PARTICULAR HELPFUL
TO THOSE OFFICES THAT SIMPLY
DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES. TO
HAVE ONE PARTICULAR PERSON
DEDICATED TO ONE PARTICULAR TYPE
OF CASE.
AND OF COURSE DA OFFICES TO A
100% OF THE OF CRIMINAL
PROSECUTION PUBLIC DEFENDER
OFFICES DON'T NECESSARILY.
DO YOU HAVE A PERCENT OF THE
DEFENSE WORK SO THERE THERE IS
SOME REASON.
FOR THE FUNDING MECHANISMS IN
THAT BUT IT PARTICULARLY GOES TO
THOSE COUNTIES THAT ARE VERY
UNDER RESOURCE AND CANNOT.
PUT THE DOLLARS INTO A
PROSECUTOR DEDICATED TO THAT
PARTICULAR TYPE OF THE UNIT.
THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS [inaudible]
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN --
DID YOU FOLLOW THE DETAILS
AROUND THE BUDGET.
THE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT
ORIGINALLY HAD A RECOMMENDATION
OF SOME MONEY FOR THIS VERDICT
PROSECUTION.
HAVE DID YOU FOLLOW SO IS IT
CURRENTLY.
IN THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION.
IT IT IS NOT IN THE CURRENT
BUDGET FOR WHICH I VOTED.
BUT IT IS.
IT ISN'T AND WAS WAS PART OF
SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS BEHIND
THAT AND OF COURSE THIS BILL IS
SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATIONS AND WE
WOULD LOOK FORWARD COMING
TOGETHER AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
BEFORE IN THE* BUDGET
PROCESS AS WE DID THIS YEAR. TO
WORK TO HAVE THAT FUNDED IN IN
NAM ANY ACTUAL BUDGET
[inaudible]
THEY'RE STILL.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR OF THE I
THINK IT'S JUST A SAD STATE OF
SOCIETY WHEN WE SEE THE
PREVALENCE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
NOW INVOLVING --
CARTELS AND I'VE SEEN THE THE
VERTICAL PROSECUTION UNITS IN
RIVERSIDE COUNTY THAT MY SON IS
A BA AND AND HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS
AND AND TRYING TO GET SOME
DIFFERENCE IF YOU WILL TO THE
VICTIMS OF THESE.
HEINOUS CRIMES SO I WANNA PLUG
ALL OF YOU FOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD --
IF IT'S A POSSIBLE I'D LIKE TO
BE ADDED AS A CYNICAL SENATOR
COOPER --
HAPPY TO SUPPORT LIKE TO MOVE IT --
WE HAVE A MOTION WE I THINK
THROUGH I THINK THE THE
DIFFICULT FOR ME IS JUST THAT WE
DON'T HAVE AN APPROPRIATION AND
THAT.
THE D. A.'S CAN FIND THIS THEY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIND IT NOW --
BUT OUT.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO VERTICAL
PROSECUTION I JUST FEEL THAT WE
DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO PUT IT
INTO STATUTE AND WHEN WE DO PUT
INTO STATUTE THEN IT PUTS MORE
ONUS ON US TO THEN COME UP WITH
AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION FOR
D. A.'S WHEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT
TO DO.
IT ANYWAY --
BUT I WON'T TO OPPOSE THE BILL
SO AT TODAY BUT I DO.
RAISE THAT QUESTION AND NOTE
THAT LAST YEAR THE SAME ONE WAS
HELD IN SENATOR PROBES. FOR THE
REASONS I AM DESCRIBING.
I WILL DO ROLL CALL.
QUESTION IS DO YOU PASS TO GM
SKINNER BY YOUR I. ANDERSON
BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL MITCHELL ICE
DOWN I DON'T I'D WINNER.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
WILL I IT'S ON CALL.
IS WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COMING
BACK.
ALL RIGHT ASSEMBLYMEMBER MACE.
IT IS ITEM [inaudible]
IF.
YES I AM TRYING TO AB.
TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE WELL
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND AND
SENATORS.
SOMETHING VERY CONCERNING HAS
BEEN OCCURRING IN THE TELEVISED
IN US WERE ACROSS THE STATE AND
I BELIEVE IT'S TIME TO ACT.
A PRIVATE LAW FIRM IS CONTRACTED
WITH CITIES AS MANY AS THIRTY
FOUR THAT I'M AWARE OF UP AND
DOWN THE STATE IN.
SPECIALIZES IN COST RECOVERY AND
LOCAL ORDINANCE DRAFTING.
A TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE
ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT'S BEEN
HAPPENING A RESIDENT.
IN THE CONTROL VALLEY WAS BUILD
SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS ON TOP OF A
TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE DOLLAR
FINE BECAUSE ONE OF OUR TENANTS
I KEPT CHICKENS IN THE BACKYARD.
ONE HOMER HOMEOWNER RECEIVED A
LEGAL BILL OF THIRTY ONE
THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR FAILING TO
GET A BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER
EXAMPLES ADDRESS NUMBERS GRASS
THAT WAS TOO TALL HOLIDAY
DECORATION THAT TOUCH THE CITY
SIDEWALK.
ALL THESE BILLS SHOWED UP MONTHS
AFTER A CRIMINAL PLEA DEAL WAS
ALREADY REACHED AND FINALIZED
THE DISPARITY OF THE CRIME AND
THE TOTAL BILL OF WHAT IT
ACTUALLY COSTS TO DEFEND IT IS
STAGGERING.
THIS IS UNJUST.
I'M REMINDED OF A FEDERALIST.
FIFTY ONE IF MEN WERE ANGELS NO
GOVERNMENT WOULD BE NECESSARY IF
ANGELS WERE TO GOVERN MEN.
ANOTHER EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL
CONTROLS ON GOVERNMENT WOULD BE
NECESSARY IN FRAMING A
GOVERNMENT WHICH IS TO BE
ADMINISTERED BY MEN OVER MEN AT
THE GREAT DIFFICULTY LIES IN
THIS.
YOU MUST FIRST ENABLE THE
GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL THE
GOVERNED AND IN THE NEXT PLACE
OBLIGES TO CONTROL ITSELF.
AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BILL
PROPOSES TO DO WERE OBLIGING
GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL ITSELF.
AB TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE IS A
MODEST BILL THAT WOULD PROHIBIT
A CITY OR COUNTY INCLUDING AN
ATTORNEY ACTING ON BEHALF OF A
CITY OR COUNTY.
FROM CHARGING DEFENDANTS FOR THE
COST OF AN INVESTIGATION
PROSECUTION OR APPEAL IN A
CRIMINAL CASE INCLUDING A
CRIMINAL VIOLATION OF A LOCAL
ORDINANCE.
EFFECTIVELY THIS BILL WOULD
PROVIDE A DISINCENTIVE FOR OVER
AGGRESSIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
PURSUE CODE ENFORCEMENT
VIOLATIONS CRIMINALLY BY
REMOVING COST RECOVERY OPTIONS.
INSTEAD OF THE MUNICIPALITY
REVIEWS THE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS FOR THESE ORDERS
VIOLATIONS WHERE THEY RIGHTFULLY
BELONG.
DEFENDANTS WOULD BE
CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED FROM
THE IMPOSITION F EXCESSIVE
FINES BECAUSE A JUDGE WOULD
OVERSEE THE CASE.
I THINK WE ALL WANT SAFE CLEAN
NEIGHBORHOODS BUT THIS KIND OF
POLICING HAS GONE TOO FAR.
IS EXACTLY MY HOPE THAT THIS
WOULD REDUCE A LOW A PROFIT.
THEY THAT THEY PURSUE A FAIR AND
JUST PROCESS AND NOT THAT THE
PATH BECOMES A CASH COW.
NO AMOUNT OF DUE PROCESS CAN
COMPENSATE FOR SOMETHING SO
INHERENTLY UNJUST.
THIS BILL WOULD NOT PROHIBIT
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM USING THE
CRIMINAL PROCESS TO ENFORCE ITS
ORDINANCES IT WOULD INCENTIVIZE
THE CITY TO WORK WITH THEIR
COMMUNITY IN A CIVIL WAY.
AND RESERVE CRIMINAL INSTANCES
FOR THE MOST EGREGIOUS MATTERS
JUST BECAUSE SOME CITIES MAY NOT
WANT TO MAKE IT A BUDGET
PRIORITY DOES NOT MEAN THEY
SHOULD HAVE THE BROAD LATITUDE.
TO SHAKE PEOPLE DOWN I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR I VOTE
HELP RIGHT OR WRONG TO KEEP
THESE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS BUT HELP THE BAD
ACTORS RE FOCUS.
ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
HEAR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT.
WAS THE FIRST [inaudible]
YOU WANT.
HI I'M THANK YOU CHAIRING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
TUNISIA ONCE AND I'M THE POLICY
MANAGER AT THE ELLA BAKER CENTER
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN OAKLAND.
AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY
ORGANIZATION IN SUPPORT OF AB --
TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MAZE.
FAR TOO OFTEN ON THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE CONVERSATIONS CENTERS
AROUND PUNISHING INDIVIDUALS FOR
MISDEEDS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION
FOR THE EXTERNALITIES THAT ARE
CAUSED BY THAT PUNISHMENT.
IN A COLLABORATIVE RESEARCH
PROJECT OF TWENTY ORGANIZATIONS
INCLUDING THE ELLA BAKER CENTER
FORWARD TOGETHER IN RESEARCH
ACTION DESIGN NAMED WHO PAYS THE
TRUE COST OF INCARCERATION. FOR
FAMILIES IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT
MANY WOMEN AND POOR FAMILIES
BEAR THE WEIGHT OF CONVICTION.
FINES FEES COURT COSTS AN
INVESTIGATION COSTS.
THIS REPORT PRESENTED THE
CONCLUSION THAT WHEN WE LOCK
PEOPLE UP WE SEPARATE THEM FROM
THEIR FAMILY RIPPING THIS
FOUNDATION APART AT THE SEAMS.
WHEN WE LOCK SOMEONE UP WE OFTEN
SENTENCE THAT ENTIRE FAMILY NOT
JUST EMOTIONALLY BUT ALSO
FINANCIALLY?
THIS CREATES A RIPPLE EFFECT
THAT REVERBERATES THROUGH ENTIRE
FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES AND
LEADS TO INCREASED POVERTY.
THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF CRIMINAL
CONVICTIONS NOT ONLY INCLUDES
THE TYPICAL COURT FILING FEES
BUT ALSO.
OTHER COSTS CHARGE FOR
INVESTIGATION AND PROSECUTION OF
CASES.
THIS FACT IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT
WE CONSIDER BOTH THE EMOTIONAL
TOLL AND ECONOMIC BURDEN PLACED
ON FAMILIES OF ACCUSED PERSONS.
THE WHOLE PAGE REPORT FOUND THAT
IN 63% OF CASES.
IT WAS NOT THE DEFENDANT BUT
FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WERE
PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE
FINES FEES AND COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH CONVICTION.
THE FAMILY MEMBERS PRIMARILY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE COSTS. 83%
WERE WOMEN.
THESE INVESTIGATION FEES COURT
FEES AND COSTS CAN REALLY TAKE A
TOLL ON A FAMILY'S ABILITY TO
MAKE ENDS MEET.
PARTICULARLY ECONOMICALLY
VULNERABLE FAMILIES THIS IS NOT
JUST. TWO OUT OF THREE FAMILIES
THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY MEETING
BASIC NEEDS AS A RESULT OF A
FAMILY MEMBERS CONVICTION AND
INCARCERATION.
LET ME REPEAT THAT. TWO OUT OF
THREE FAMILIES HAVE CHALLENGES
MEETING BASIC ME.
RESULTING FROM A FAMILY MEMBER'S
INCARCERATION.
THESE ARE NOT MAJOR GOODS OR
SERVICES JUST BASIC SUBSISTENCE
FOOD SHELTER CLOTHING
TRANSPORTATION. FOR THE POOREST
FAMILIES.
THOSE EARNING LESS THAN FIFTEEN
THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
THEY'RE WALKING A FINANCIAL
TIGHTROPE TO COVER THESE.
COURT COSTS.
AND THEN ALSO COVER THEIR BASIC
NEEDS.
FAMILIES ALSO.
GO INTO DEBT TO PAY THESE COURT
COSTS.
THE AVERAGE FAMILY.
REGARDLESS OF INCOME BRACKET
[inaudible]
EXPERIENCED THIRTEEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS [inaudible]
IN.
FEET.
THEY WERE GOING TO DEAD THIRTEEN
THOUSAND DOLLARS AND IT DOESN'T
TAKE.
A DEGREE IN MATHEMATICS TO
RECOGNIZE THAT IF YOU'RE EARNING
LESS THAN FIFTEEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS A YEAR THIRTEEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS IN DEBT IS UNMANAGEABLE.
WITH THIS BILL WE CAN MAKE A
SMALL STEP TOWARDS REMEDYING
WHAT'S EXPERIENCED BY THE
POOREST OF THE POOR.
BY THESE WOMEN.
AND CHILDREN WHO ARE OFTEN THE
ONES SUFFERING WHEN FAMILIES
HAVE TO PAY COURT FEES AND COSTS
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE ELLA BAKER
CENTER IS HERE TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE THIS IS ALL PART OF
A CONTINUUM OF UNDERSTANDING
THAT THESE FEES.
ARE MOST OFTEN IMPACTING THE
POOREST FAMILIES IN OUR
COMMUNITIES AND WE URGE YOUR
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS I'M READY
TO MOVE THE BILL WHEN YOU DRIVE
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BILL SO.
GO AHEAD MARCO GEORGE FROM THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION UM C. PDA SUPPORTS
THIS BILL --
WE WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE
COMMENTS FROM BY THE
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ELLA
BAKER CENTER.
ON THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE
PROVISION.
ON A IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THESEARCH FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE
FROM THE CORROSIVE EFFECTS OF A
REVENUE GENERATION.
AND ONE OF THE WITNESSES THIS
MORNING TALKED ABOUT ON A
FERGUSON MISSOURI.
THERE WAS S I'M SURE EVERYONE
IN THE ROOM KNOWS THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE REPORT.
THAT LOOKED AT SOME OF THE
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS IN OF
FERGUSON MISSOURI UNDERLYING THE
DISTURBANCES AND THE WHAT
HAPPENED THERE.
AND THE REPORT CONCLUDED THAT
ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL REASONS
THAT THE FERGUSON COMMUNITY HAD
SUFFERED AND LOST FAITH IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THE FACT
THAT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
ENTITIES.
INCLUDING.
THE DEPARTMENT LOCAL PROSECUTORS
AND THE COURTS HAD ELEVATED THE
GOAL OF REVENUE GENERATION OVER
THE FUNDAMENTAL.
PROJECT OF PROTECTING THE PUBLIC
AND SEEKING JUSTICE [inaudible]
ON SO THIS IS A BILL OFFERS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO THE DIVORCE.
THE EVEN THE OPTICS A PECUNIARY
INTEREST FROM TRUE IN.
THE TRUE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROJECT
AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SEEING NONE WILL HAVE THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION AND WE
MAY NEED TO HAVE SPACE AT THE
TABLE [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
AUTHOR MAY STAY AT THE TABLE
ALWAYS.
IS THE AUTHOR.
GIVEN THE STATE'S.
HONORABLE CHAIR MEMBERS SAID DAN
CARRIED ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.
OF FIRST OF ALL I JUST WANT TO
SAY THAT WE WE CERTAINLY ON
UNDERSTAND WHY THE AUTHOR
INTERVIEWS THIS BILL --
AS HE WORKED AS AN ORGANIZATION
THE LEAGUE WHICH WE DO NOT
OPPOSE THIS BILL WHEN IT WAS
OVER IN THE ASSEMBLY.
ARE BECAUSE OF THE SOME OF THE
DETAILS IN TERMS OF THE DESERT
SUN ARTICLE THAT'S CITED IN THE
ANALYSIS AND SOME OF THE OTHER
ALLEGATIONS WE'RE WE'RE
CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WANTED TO
LOOK INTO.
BEFORE WE WE TOOK A POSITION.
ON IT AND A SORT OF AFTER
TALKING TO OUR OR OTHERS AS CITY
IT WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY'S
DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE LEAGUE.
ON THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE ARM IT
IN THE ARTICLE THAT THAT BECAUSE
THIS BILL THAT DOESN'T REPRESENT
WERE WERE THE CITIES OF
CALIFORNIA ARE COMING FROM ON
THIS ISSUE.
ARM WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM IS
WE WE DID WE DON'T BELIEVE
WITHOUT.
THAT FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT
STANDPOINT YOU START OUT BY BY
BY -- YOU
KNOW CHARGING PEOPLE EVEN WHEN
THEY'RE COMPLYING WHAT WITH THE
LAW.
IN SO STARTING FROM THAT SORT OF
CONCEPT WE DID PRESENT A SET OF
AMENDMENTS TO THE AUTHOR AND I
BELIEVE.
THE ARM A SERGEANT MY IF MAY
HAVE HANDED THEM OUT THERE WE
BELIEVE ARE COMPLETELY
RESPONSIVE TO THE ART OF THE
AUTHOR'S CONCERNS WITH THIS
MEASURE.
BUT DON'T TOSS OUT THE USE OF
THIS TOOL WHEN WE REALLY NEED IT
TO DEAL WITH ARM.
DIFFICULT SITUATIONS WHETHER
IT'S WITH SLUM LORDS OR OTHERS.
THAT JUST FRANKLY ARE REFUSING.
TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES AND
INCOME COMPLY WITH THE LOCAL
ORDINANCES SO LET ME JUST
WALKING THROUGH BASICALLY HOW
OUR AMENDMENTS ADDRESS THE
ISSUES THAT THAT HAVE BEEN
ALLEGED AS THE PROBLEM.
NUMBER ONE IT'S THE CONCERN IS
THERE WASN'T ARE ADEQUATE NOTICE.
AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIOLATION
OR AMENDMENTS MAKE IT REALLY
CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO ABILITY
TO RECOVER ANY COSTS AT ALL YOU
HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE AND YOU HAVE
TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CORRECT. TOO IF YOU CORRECT IF
YOU CORRECT THE VIOLATION THEN
THERE THERE IS NO ABILITY TO
CALL IT TO COLLECT.
IT FOR COST THAT WHY SHOULD
THERE BE WE WE AGREE WITH THAT.
THEN IF THE PERSON STILL THEY
BEING GIVEN A NOTICE TO BE GONE
ALL REGIONAL OPTION TO CORRECT
THEY'RE STILL NOT RESPONDING
THEN IF AND ONLY IF.
THAT YOU MOVED TO SOME SORT OF
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION WE HAVE IN
OUR AMENDMENTS WE HAVE THE
ABILITY FOR A JUDGE TO ACTUALLY
VERIFY THAT THERE'S BEEN AN
OPPORTUNITY YOU NOTICE AN OPTION
TO CORRECT.
IT IN THE END OF THE JUDGE CAN
OR AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT YOU
THE COST RECOVERY CAN BE PART OF
THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY WE ALSO AWHILE
APPEAL NOT JUST TO AN INTERNAL
HEARING OFFICER BUT BUT TO THE
TO THE CITY COUNCIL BUT THERE
ARE SOME OTHER WITNESSES HERE
TODAY ARE FOR THAT ARE ACTUALLY
OUT THERE ENFORCING CODES.
AND AND AND I HOPE YOU
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE THERE IS A
REASON TO ATLEAST PURGE OR THIS
MECHANISM FOR FOR THE BAD ACTORS
THE FOLKS THAT THAT DON'T COMPLY --
THE STORIES THE THAT WERE CITED
AS SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THIS
BILL WERE NOT TRYING TO DEFEND
THOSE THAT THOSE ARE NOT REALLY
DEFENSIBLE BUT THERE IS A ROLE
FOR IT THERE ARE BAD ACTORS
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT
TO COMPLY --
INTO IT IN NEED A LITTLE BIT OF
A HAMMER IN ORDER TO TO GET THEM --
TO EITHER A SLUM LORD TO IMPROVE
THEIR PROPERTIES.
OR OR OR IN OTHER WAYS WHEN
YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF
RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS SO.
WE'RE SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE WE
THINK WE SHOULD PRESERVE IT FOR
FOR THOSE BAD ACTORS AND FOR
THOSE REASONS WERE OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED ON THE MEASURE THANK YOU.
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
I COMMEND CHAIRMAN HER WHEN I'M --
JOHNNY TERROR FROM THE PRESIDENT
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
REPRESENTS ABOUT SIXTEEN HUNDRED
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
STATEWIDE.
WERE OUT IN THE TRENCHES WORKING
EVERY DAY TO MAKE COMMUNITY
SAFER AND CLEANER.
WE'VE WE'VE YOU THIS BILL IS A
CLASSIC CASE OF THROWING OUT THE
BABY WITH THE BATHWATER.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH --
THE AUTHOR TO AMEND THE BILL IN
ORDER TO TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES
ARE THERE BUT NOT TO TAKE AWAY
THE TOOL ENTIRELY BECAUSE WE
DESPERATELY NEED IT LET ME GIVE
YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES --
IN CASES I WORKED ON THERE WAS
ONE PROPERTY A SINGLE FAMILY
HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE
ENTIRE EXTERIOR PRIMER THE
PROPERTY WAS FILLED WITH HIGHER
SERVICE THREE HUNDRED TIRES ON
THE PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE TIRES WAS
LOTS OF WOOD.
PLYWOOD TO BUY FORCED TO BUY SIX
IS EVERYTHING AND LITERALLY
HUNDREDS OF HUNDREDS OF POUNDS
OF BOXES ARDBOARD BOXES SO YOU
CAN IMAGINE THE FIRE HAZARD
THERE.
WE DISCOVERED THIS A PROPERTY
BASED ON A A NEIGHBOR COMPLAINT
WE TRIED TO WORK WITH THE
PROPERTY OWNER THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT HAD TO DECLARE THAT
WAS A HAZARDOUS.
A ROPERTY SO THAT IF THERE WAS
A FIRE THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO
DEFEND THE NEIGHBORING
PROPERTIES THEY WERE GOING TO
TRY -- TO A
GO IN AND PUT OUT THAT FIRE
BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID OF IT --
WE TRIED ALL THE DIFFERENT TOOLS
THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BAG
INCLUDING FORCE WE HAVE QUITE A
FEW DIFFERENT METHODS TO GAIN
COMPLIANCE.
WE ALWAYS EDUCATE FIRST GIVE
PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY
GIVE ME A CHANCE HELP HIM OUT
WE'VE BEEN OFFERED AS THE CITY
TO COME IN WITH THE TRASH BIN SO
THAT HE COULD START DISPOSING OF
THE STUFF.
WE COULD NOT GET COMPLIANCE INTO
STARTED USING THIS TOOL.
THEN WE WERE ABLE O GET THE
PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE GOT ALL
OF THE WOOD IN THE TRASH REMOVED.
AND WERE ABLE --
TO TO AFFECT COMPLIANCE ON THE
PROPERTY YOU STILL HAVE THAT
TOOL OF THE YEAR.
IT WASN'T THE TOOL OF OF BEING
ABLE TO CHARGE THEM FOR THE
PROSECUTION YOU STILL HAVE THE
TOOL THERE'S X. THIS BILL DOES
NOT UNDO THE EXISTING LAW THAT
ALLOWS YOU TO RECOVER ANY COSTS
FOR ABATEMENT. FOR CLEANUP FOR
REMEDIATION FOR ANY OF THOSE
THINGS THAT'S CORRECT ALL
EXPLAIN THAT WHY THIS WAS
IMPORTANT IN JUST A SECOND.
ON ON THE SECOND ONE I WANT TO
BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WAS A
PRO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER.
ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER
HE HAD ALL KINDS OF COMMERCIAL
PROPERTIES HE WOULD GET IN DO
TEN IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT PERMITS
THERE WERE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS
IN SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES.
IN BOTH OF THESE CASES WHAT I'M
I'M DRIVING TOWARDS IS THAT
THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS IMMEDIATE
CONCERNS THAT HAVE TO BE
ADDRESSED THE CIVIL PROCESS IS
VERY SLOW AS WE ALL KNOW.
THE CRIMINAL PROCESS IS MUCH
QUICKER.
AND IN ORDER TO AFFECT
COMPLIANCE ON THESE TYPES OF
CASES BUT THIS DOES NOT
ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO
CRIMINALLY PROSECUTE SO I WISH
YOU I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU
COULD.
HAVE YOUR OBJECTIONS BE SPECIFIC
TO THE BUILD THE ONLY THING THE
BILL DOES.
IS PROHIBIT THE JURORS FROM.
CHARGING FOR THE COSTS OF THE
PROSECUTION IT DOES NOT IN ANY
OTHER WAY INTERFERE WITH THE
JURISDICTION BEING ABLE TO BRING
ABOUT THE CRIMINAL.
PROSECUTION.
OR CIVIL DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY
WANT OR TO RECOVER COSTS FOR
ABATEMENT CLEAN UP AND THE REST.
WE USE A SO YOU AND YOUR YOUR
DESCRIPTIONS HAVE NOT YET GONE
SPECIFIC TO THE BILL AREA.
IN SOME CASES BECAUSE OF TIME
AND BECAUSE OF THE PERSON NOT
RESPONDING TO THE OTHER MESSAGE
METHODS.
THE WEIGHT OF THE THREAT OF THIS
TYPE OF PROSECUTION WHERE THEY
COULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE
COSTS [inaudible]
OF ENFORCEMENT.
CAUSE THEM TO WANT TO COMPLY.
IT'S ANOTHER TO WHERE THEY WANT
TO COMPLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF
THEY DON'T IT'S GOING TO GO TO
COURT AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO
PAY THE COSTS.
AND WITH SOME TYPES OF VIOLATORS
WE NEED THAT TOOL WILL USE IN
EVERY CASE WE DON'T USE IT
IMMEDIATELY.
BUT WE NEED IT WITH CERTAIN
VIOLATORS.
LEAST THE POINT WAS GERMANE TO
THE BELT.
I'M.
INVITE YOUR BROTHER TESTIMONY
LAST NIGHT OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AND MY NAME IS JAMIE
SELLER AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER AND I'VE BEEN A CODE
OFFICER FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
AT TWENTY ONE YEARS OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE.
I AM ALSO READING BOARD MEMBER
AND REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CODE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
TODAY IN OPPOSITION OF AB TWENTY
FOUR NINETY FIVE TO NOT INCLUDE
THIS TEST AMENDMENTS PROVIDED BY
CASEY ON AND THE CALIFORNIA
LEAGUE OF CITIES.
THIS BILL REMOVES MORE OF THEIR
ABILITY UTILIZED BY LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS NOT ONLY ASSIST IN
THE COMMUNITY IN MAINTAINING
SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT BY REMOVING THE ABILITY FOR
CITIES TO OBTAIN COST RECOVERY
FOR CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS.
ON CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES.
CODE ENFORCEMENT GOALS ARE
ALWAYS TOO TAME COMPLIANCE WE
CONSISTENTLY WORK WITH THE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
GIVE DUE PROCESS PROVIDING
EDUCATION GIVING NOTICES.
ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS AN
ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS.
EXAMPLES OF CASES I HAVE
PERSONALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN.
OUR CASES SUCH AS A FEW WEEKS
AGO.
WHERE I WENT TO A HOME A SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCE WHERE THE
PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY SPLIT
THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE INTO
TWO UNITS?
AND WAS CHARGING RENT FOR FOUR
DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHEDS IN THE
BACKYARD ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED
DOLLARS A MONTH.
THIS PROPERTY OWNER WAS VERY A
FLUENT IN OUR COMMUNITY ON MANY
PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.
THAT I WORK AND LIVE IN.
MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THEY OWN
HAVE CODE ISSUES.
THESE TYPES OF SLUMLORDS
CONTINUALLY ARE VIOLATORS AND
OUR CRIMINAL ACTIONS ALONG WITH
COST RECOVERY.
OR WHAT ASSISTED IN REMEDYING
THESE VIOLATIONS BEST CREATING A
BETTER ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTHIER
ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
CUSTER EVERY IS GENERALLY USED
WHEN OTHER RESOURCES HAVE BEEN
EXHAUSTED EXCEPT FOR IN THE CASE
OF REPEAT OFFENDERS.
I HEARD YOU KNOW VOTE ON AB
TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE WITHOUT
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES AND
INDUSTRY AT THE MIKE.
BUT JOHN LEVEL WITH THE
ASSOCIATION OF DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS.
AND THAT ASSOCIATION DOES DO.
SLUMLORD PROSECUTIONS IN VARIOUS
CONTRACTS CITIES IN THE IN THE
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES.
YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS CHIEF
COUNSEL TO THE RIGHT NOW WE'RE
ONLY TAKING THE SINCE WE'VE
ALREADY HEARD FROM THREE
WITNESSES NOW WE'RE JUST TAKING
NAME AND AFFILIATION IN
OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU JOHN LEVEL OF
ASSOCIATION OF DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS LA COUNTY PROFESSIONAL
PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
CALIFORNIA COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION ALL OPPOSED
TO THE BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM
AND MYSTIFIED.
AS TO WHY THE OFFER REJECTED THE
AMENDMENTS OF THE LEAGUE OF
CITIES.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE APPLICANTS OFFICE.
REPRESENT CITIES OF RANCHO
CORDOVA AND GLENDORA WERE
OPPOSED THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
ANDRANCHO CUCAMONGA THANK YOU.
I LOVE THE NAME OF THE CITY ON
ALL RIGHT SO.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY COMMENT ON
THE DICE I WILL.
COMMENT.
I WE'VE COURSE THE COMMITTEE
RECEIVED THE SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS SO WAS NOT ONLY THE
AUTHOR THAT IN WE CHOSE NOT TO
IMPOSE THE AMENDMENT.
COURSE THE AUTHOR COULD REJECT
AND WE MIGHT KILL THIS BILL BUT
WE CHOSE NOT TO IMPOSE IT.
BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THE
JURISDICTIONS IN QUESTION STILL
HAVE THE ABILITY TO FINE.
IN RELATIONSHIP TO ANY OF THESE
MATTERS.
I CAN SET FINES CAN PROSECUTE
AND THEN CAN COLLECT FOR CLEANER
PRE MEDIATION ABATEMENT AND ALL
THE REST AND CAN COLLECT UP TO
TROUBLE COSTS UNDER EXISTING
CODE.
AND WE HAVE VERY FEW OTHER
INCIDENTS WHERE WE ALLOW A
JURISDICTION TO RECOVER FOR
PROSECUTING.
ON THAT IS PART OF THE THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF OF THE ENTITY
TO PROSECUTE WHEN NECESSARY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE COMMITTEE
DID NOT.
BUT IT.
BASICALLY --
TELL THE AUTHOR THESE ARE.
THE COMMITTEE WILL NOT BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL --
SO.
THE WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT FROM
THE DICE AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER
COMMENT OR QUESTION --
SIMPLY NEVER MADE YOU CAN CLOSE
BUT YOU HAVE A IN SENATOR WINNER.
ARM I SUPPORT THIS BILL I AM
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US
HIGHLIGHTING THE ISSUE TO A IT
JUST SEEMS EXTREME TO ME THAT.
THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN AND YOU CAN
THEN GET TIRED FOR THE COSTS OF
PROSECUTION BY A PRIVATE.
LAW FIRM I YOU KNOW WHEN WE DO
THIS TO PEOPLE YOU TRUST.
YOU KEEP POOR PEOPLE POOR YOU
DRIVE PEOPLE INTO OB FURTHER
FINANCIAL TROUBLE IT'S JUST
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ARE HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL.
MEDICARE AND AND COMMITTEE WHO
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
FOR WORKING ON THIS --
WE'VE THROUGH THE THE ASSEMBLY
NOW --
UNANIMOUSLY I THINK IT IS A A
GREAT MEASURE TO BE ABLE TO
RIGHT.
A WRONG AND JUST LIKE THE
FEDERALISTS FIFTY ONE OF SAID WE
HAVE TO APPLY TO THE GOVERNMENT
TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL. TO
CONTROL ITSELF THAT'S WHAT THIS
MEASURE DOES ALL OF US WANT
HEALTHY CITIES WE DON'T WANT
BLIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITIES WE
WANT A CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO
THE WORK AT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
HAS TO DO NEEDS TO DO UP SO THAT
WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT --
HEALTHY COMMUNITIES BUT
SOMETIMES --
THERE'S FOLKS THAT ARE A LITTLE
BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE THIS RIGHT
THAT WRONG --
I RESPECT THE REQUEST AND I WILL.
THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION I
THINK YOU MOVED IT RIGHT THANKS --
SENATOR.
SO ROLL CALL.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE FLOOR
SKINNER RIGHT.
I ANDERSON.
PERSON I BRADFORD.
ACCENT.
MITCHELL.
DOWN.
WINNER.
WINNER I CALL.
BILL SO CALLED.
LOOKING GOOD SO FAR --
WILL NOW GO TO ITEM TWENTY
THAT'S THE NEXT ONE YES.
AB TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY SEVEN
MEMBER WALDRON.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE
AND WE ONE MOMENT WE WILL TRY TO
MOVE IS OFFICIALLY THE DAYS LONG.
AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE EITHER
OBSERVING OR WATCHING THE
MOVEMENT WITH DEFICIENCY IS NOT
A MATTER OF BEING.
AN INTERESTED IN THE BILLS BUT
JUST -- THE
LENGTH OF THE DAY SO --
YES.
SO YOU MAY PROCEED AMATEUR I'M
PREPARED TO MOVE THE BILL IF
THEIR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE.
WE WILL TAKE THAT MOTION BUT YOU
MAY PROCEED ANYWAY BUT YOU CAN
ALWAYS TAKE THAT SIGNAL IS --
NEVER NEVERNEVER --
TALK FAST YES.
AND COMMITTEE --
I'M HERE TO PRESENT AB.
TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY ALLOWING THE
EXPANSION OF REHABILITATIVE
SERVICES AND RE ENTRY SERVICES
TO JUVENILES WHO ARE NO LONGER
UNDER THE JUVENILE COURTS
JURISDICTION.
AND AS WE KNOW WHEN THE USERS
RELEASED WE'VE BUILT ASIAN
DIVISION STATE FUNDING ALLOWS
EACH REALIGNED USE. TO THE
COUNTY FOR WHICH THEY ARE
COMMITTED HOWEVER IN SOME CASES.
THEY ARE UNABLE TO ACCESS
SERVICES SUCH AS EMPLOYMENT AND
HOUSING.
BECAUSE WHEN THE JUVENILE COURT
JURISDICTION ENDS THE USE ACCESS
TO THESE SERVICES AND AS WELL
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE
HIGHEST NEED JUVENILES IN THE
STATE.
OF THIS BILL WILL BASICALLY SAY
THAT GRAND FINDINGS MAY BE USED
FOR THEM IT DOESN'T MANDATE THAT.
AND WITH ME TODAY IS PAMELA
VILLA THE WAIVER A JUVENILE
DEFENDER FROM LOS ANGELES WHO
SERVES AS AN AMICUS COMMITTEE
MEMBER FOR PACIFIC JUVENILE
DEFENDER CENTER AND THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS OF THE CALIFORNIA
CONFERENCE OF BAR ASSOCIATIONS.
THANK YOU.
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS.
SENATORS I WANT TO THANK AS
SIMPLY MEMBER MARIE WALDRON FOR
AUTHORING AB.
TWENTY SEVEN OR TWENTY SEVEN
TWENTY AN IMPORTANT FIX FOR
WHICH IT PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY TO
COUNTIES TO FIND IMPORTANT
REHABILITATIVE SERVICES.
UP TO TWO YEARS AFTER
TERMINATION OF COURT
JURISDICTION AS A PUBLIC
DEFENDER FROM THE LOS ANGELES
AREA.
A PART OF MY JOB
RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AJ AND
RETURNING TO THE COMMUNITY AFTER
A LINK THE COMMITMENT.
I OFTEN FIND THAT YOUTH WHO HAVE
OPPORTUNITIES AT THAT TO SUPPORT
AND RETAIN THEM IN STABLE
HOUSING --
ARE LIMITED ONCE THEY ARE
RELEASED FROM COURT JURISDICTION.
THIS BILL IS NECESSARY DUE TO
THE SHORT TIME DJJ RE ENTRY YOU
ARE UNDER COURT SUPERVISION.
THEY ARE OLDER THEY MAX OUT FOR
MONTHS TO ONE YEAR.
TYPICALLY AFTER RELEASE TO THE
COMMUNITY.
THIS BILL WOULD EXTEND TWO YEARS.
WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO FUNDING
WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO RETAIN AND
REMAINS IN STABLE HOUSING AND
EMPLOYMENT SITUATIONS.
WHILE THE SOME WOULD SAY THAT
THE NTENT OF THE BILL IS
DIFFERENT THAT THIS IS --
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CRITICISMS
IS THAT THIS IS NOT MEET THE
INTENT OF THE REALIGNMENT
LEGISLATION I DISAGREE.
THIS IS.
MATCHING THE INTENT OF THE
REALIGNMENT FOR JUVENILES TO THE
COUNTIES IT ALLOWS A THE TIME
PERIOD.
TO EQUAL TWO YEARS WHICH IS WHY.
CURRENTLY SOME COUNTIES LIKE LOS
ANGELES HAVE AN EXPANDED
JUVENILE REENTER GRANT FUNDS.
THEY HAVE.
AN EXPANDED FUNDING BECAUSE OF
THE SHORT TIME UNDER SUPERVISION
AND THIS MISMATCH.
OUR NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED IN
ORDER TO FUND YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
WHICH OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO BE ACCESSED BECAUSE THE
FUNDS CANNOT ONLY B USED FOR
YOUTH UNDER COURT JURISDICTION.
FOR EXAMPLE --
AN EXAMPLE NEEDS NOT BEING MET
UNDER COURT FOR IT FUNDED
RESTRICTIONS.
CHRIS THE SECOND STRIKER SPENT A
YEAR ON PROBATION WORK MINIMUM
WAGE JOBS STAYED OUT OF TROUBLE
REMAIN DRUG FREE WAS TERMINATED
FROM PROBATION AFTER YEAR FOR
HIS GOOD CONDUCT.
WE WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S A
SUCCESS HOWEVER SHORTLY
THEREAFTER BECAUSE HE WAS STILL.
TRYING.
TO FIND HIS WAY HE BECAME
HOMELESS AND CONTACTED ME
REQUESTING ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT
AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES HE DID NOT
HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IT WAS NO
LONGER AVAILABLE TO HIM BECAUSE
FUNDING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS
SERVICES HAD CEASED.
BY ALLOWING COUNTIES THE
FLEXIBILITY TO USE THE J. RG
FUNDING. FOR THE FULL TWO YEARS
CONCEIVED WHEN THE LEGISLATION
WAS WRITTEN PROVIDERS OF HOUSING
EMPLOYMENT SUPPORT SERVICES CAN
CONTINUE TO RECEIVE MONEY.
FROM THE DJEREJIAN THIS AND
EXPENDED MONEY CAN BE USED TO
HELP KIDS RECEIVE THE HELP THEY
NEED.
AS THEY FIND THEIR WAY IN LIFE.
THANK YOU ARE THERE OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS STAND TO
LOSE OUT ON BEHALF OF LOS
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE
REASONS STATED BY MY COLLEAGUE
FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE IN THIS QUITE A FEW
PEOPLE HERE.
BUT MARCO GEORGE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT.
ANDREW WHEN ANTI RACISM
COALITION SUPPORT.
HI MY NAME IS KENDALL JACKSON
I'M WITH THE ANTI RECIDIVISM
COALITION I STAND IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL.
DANIEL HERRON ANTI RECIDIVISM
COALITION STRONG SUPPORT --
ESPANA IS ANTI RECIDIVISM
COALITION WE SUPPORT.
FRENCH OF THE BELL IN SUPPORT
AND TIED ON RECIDIVISM COALITION.
ANY OTHERS.
ALRIGHT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
[inaudible]
AND THE YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET UP
SO THEY CAN SIT AT THE TABLE --
AND THIS WATER ANYONE GIVEN THE
MIKE JUST GIVEN YOU CAN STATE
TABLES WATER JUST MOVE THE MIKE
OVER TO HER.
OKAY.
I KNOW WHERE IT LEADS THE
AFTERNOONS ALL KEEP IT BRIEF BUT
I'M GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS DANIEL SANCHEZ ON BEHALF
OF THE CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS
OF CALIFORNIA.
I'M I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT GET
SIMPLY NUMBER AND HER STAFF.
DIALOGUE WITH US ON THIS ISSUE
I'M I DON'T THINK IN ANY WAY DO
WE DISAGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS
OF TRYING TO FIND FUNDING FOR RE
ENTRY SERVICES WE KNOW THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO
THE AUTHOR.
I'M INTO THIS COMMITTEE AND AND
SEE PART ABSOLUTELY SHARES THAT
WHOLE HEARTEDLY --
IT WE KNOW CERTAINLY THIS YEAR
UP FLETCHER PUT SOME VERY
SIGNIFICANT AND POSITIVE
INVESTMENTS AND TO RE ENTRY TYPE
SERVICES SO.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
IN LOOKING BACK THOUGH IN IN.
TWENTY TEN A SHORT VERY VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO
DEVELOP --
AND AND RESTRUCTURE THE JUVENILE
SYSTEM WHEREBY A COUNTY
PROBATION DEPARTMENTS WOULD --
ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OFF
FROM DJJ PAROLE TO SUPERVISE AND
PROGRAM IN AND WORK WITH THE
YOUTH COMING OUT IN DJJ.
AT THE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
ART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS
DEVELOPING A FORMULA THAT WAS I
THINK REFERENCE BY THE SPONSOR
THAT.
THAT HAD SOME FORMULA FACTORS
BUILT IN ABOUT KIND OF
DETERMINING WHAT THE COST WOULD
BE BUT THE INTENT OF DEVELOPING
THAT FORMULA WAS REALLY TO
INFUSE THE JUVENILE JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
AND IT WASN'T NECESSARILY
DESIGNED TO BE A A PER WARD PER
YEAR OR WE HAVE HER TWO YEAR
COST.
OF IT WAS TO ENSURE THAT LOCALLY
WE COULD BUILD OUT ON PROBATION
SERVICES PROGRAMMING AND
RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR THAT
POPULATION.
GOING FORWARD AND SO WHILE IT
WAS REFERENCE THAT THEIR RELEASE
TIMES VERY --
WHICH IS TRUE THERE ARE GOING TO
BE TIMES WHERE THE FORMULA
ALLOCATION MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO
COVER UP HER WARDEN AND OTHER
TIMES IT MAY BE MORE AND SO
AGAIN THAT'S WHY IT WAS LOOKED
AT FROM A KIND OF SYSTEMIC AND
HOLISTIC PERSPECTIVE.
ARE ARE -- I
THINK CONCERN IS THAT
CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED FUNDS --
AND AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
MAIN CONCERNS IS THAT WERE
POTENTIALLY GOING TO REDIRECT
FUNDS FROM ONE PART OF THE
SYSTEM. TO ANOTHER PART OF THE
SYSTEM --
AND AND WE ABSOLUTELY I THINK
ARE.
OPEN TO AND WOULD LIKE TO BE
PARTNERS AND FINDING NEW FUNDING
FOR THIS IF WE IF WE PULL OUT
FROM ONE AREA AND PROVIDE
ELSEWHERE WHERE WE'RE REALLY NOT
ENHANCING THE SYSTEM WE'RE GONNA
END UP FORCING OURSELVES THE
STRUGGLE IN ONE AREA.
OVER ANOTHER --
THE LAST THING I WOULD JUST SAY
IS IS OBVIOUSLY AS WE'RE LOOKING
AT COUNTIES --
AND HOW THEY SPEND THERE ARE
TIMES WHERE I'M DEVELOPING
PROGRAMS WHETHER ITS
INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM IN
SUPERVISION HOUSING ALL OF THOSE
THINGS TAKE TIME AND SO BUILDING
OUT.
AN APPROPRIATE RESERVE TO THEN
BE ABLE --
TO TO CARRY OUT THOSE
EXPENDITURE PLANS IS IMPORTANT
AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THE
LEGISLATURE HAS LOOKED AT WE DO
THAT LOCALLY AS WELL AND SO
AGAIN WE'RE COMMITTED TO
CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS --
THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE BUT
SIGNIFICANTLY CONCERNED ABOUT --
USING THESE PARTICULAR FUNDS AND
RESOURCES FOR THIS AND THE TIME
THANK YOU THANK YOU DO YOU IF
YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE TABLE
WE CAN.
GREAT THANKSINSTANTE.
GOOD AFTERNOON JESSICA OF
INTENSITY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES UNFORTUNATELY IN
OPPOSITION.
AND I WOULD ECHO THE CONCERNS
RAISED BY PROBATION CHIEFS I WE
1100% AGREE WITH THE AUTHOR'S
INTENT.
THAT A YOUTH REHABILITATIVE AND
RE ENTRY SERVICES ARE ESSENTIAL
IN REDUCING RECIDIVISM HOWEVER
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS
THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING SOURCE.
WHATTHESE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT
THIS LANGUAGE IS PERMISSIVE?
AND THAT IT WILL NOT TAKE A FACT
WITHOUT THE ACA.
THIS LEGISLATION IS THE FIRST
STEP AND MODIFYING
CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED
REALIGNMENT FUNDING.
AND FOR THAT REASON WERE OPPOSED
TO THE LEGISLATION.
READ ANY COMMENTS ON THE DAIS.
WE HAVE A MOTION GO AHEAD AS
SENATOR ANDERSON.
I WAS HOPING MAYBE US FROM THE
OPPONENTS COULD.
COME BACK I ACTUALLY HAVE A
QUESTION OF THEM.
I DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION
OF EVERYONE AGREES IN THE GOAL.
YEAH AND I READ THROUGH YOUR
OPPOSITION YOU KNOW ONE WAS
FINANCIAL ONE WAS THE LACK WITH
HIGH POTENTIAL AUTHORITY.
WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE?
THE SOLUTION TO THIS BECAUSE
CLEARLY WE WANT THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE TO SUCCEED.
ABSOLUTELY MAD YESTERDAY --
AGAIN I THINK --
FOR FOUR C. PARK WE'VE BEEN
WORKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME
DECADES IF NOT LONGER ON RE
ENTRY SERVICES BOTH AT THE STATE
LEVEL LOCAL LEVEL I THINK I
COUNTIES INFORMATION OR DOING
SOME VERY INNOVATIVE THINGS.
BUT AS WE LOOK HISTORICALLY AT
FOURTEEN IF WE LOOK BACK IN AND
UP TAKING FUNDS FROM THINGS THAT
WERE WERE REALIGNED OR WERE SET
UP TO SUPPORT ONE PURPOSE.
IF WE'RE TAKING FROM THOSE --
FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE IT'S AT THE
END OF THE DAY GOING TO IMPACT
THE THE YOUTH THAT WE'RE TRYING
TO SERVE AND SO I THINK FOR US.
IT WOULD BE IDENTIFYING.
NEW FUND EITHER FIND WHETHER
THAT BE IN FUTURE BUDGET YEARS
OR SOME OTHER WAYS BUT NOT FROM
THIS PARTICULAR FUND AND WE
WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO BE
PARTNERS IN IDENTIFYING
ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT
PURPOSE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO A BRIEF
RESPONSE.
I DON'T KNOW ACTUALLY AS THE
OPPOSITION YES WRITING ROOM AND
I WOULD JUST ECH EXACTLY WHAT.
THIS THE POX STATED I THINK
THAT'S A VERY VALUABLE
DISCUSSION THAT WE SHOULD BE
HAVING.
HOW WHAT BOND SHOULD BE USING TO
FACILITATE RE ENTRY SERVICES FOR
THESE YOU?
OKAY LET'S JUST NOT HERE.
I MEAN HERE I'M NOT GONNA BE%
HERE NEXT YEAR BUT I TELL YOU
OUR BUDGETS OF FIVE DO YOU.
DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE
MONEY IN THE BUDGET. TO TO DO
SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL THEY IN
THEIR NEVER GUARANTEES EVEN WHEN
WE WANT IT SO.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR
ANYWAY TOM.
BUT THE EAT MY UNDERSTANDS THIS
WILL ONLY BECOME OPERATIVE IF
ACA TWENTY FIVE IS PROVED BY THE
VOTERS WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT WOULD.
WELL IT JUST IT DEALS WITH THE
THE CONSTITUTIONALITY ISSUE THAT
AND GIVEN THAT THERE ARE AN
EXPANDED FINDS NOW IN THIS WOULD
ONLY TOUCH THE ON EXPENDED.
AND AS I INDICATED IT DOESN'T GO
INTO EFFECT UNLESS THE BOTH ACA
GETS PUT ON THE BALLOT AND IT'S
PROVED BY THE VOTERS IN TWENTY
TWENTY SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH
IT AS IT IS I THINK THAT IT.
WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THESE
THINGS BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE
SHOULD --
THOSE OF US WHO WANT TO MAKE
SURE THE THE PROPER REENTRY
SUPPORT FOR OUR JUVENILES IN OUR
ADULT SHOULD LOOK AT IT FOR THAT
AND MONITOR THIS IN THE BUDGET
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
APPROPRIATE.
APPROPRIATE RESOURCES.
SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION.
WILL ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE.
AND THEN WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR --
AS OF AS INDICATED IT IS
PERMISSIVE WROTE ANY COUNTY CAN
DETERMINE HOW THEY WANT TO DO
THAT OR IF THEY WANT TO DO IT AT
ALL.
AND IT MAY BE A YOU KNOW THEY
MAY HAVE SPECIFIC REASON TO DO
SO -- AS AN
EMPLOYER WHO HAS HIRED
PREVIOUSLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE
OVER THE LAST TWENTY FOUR YEARS
I CAN TESTIFY THROUGH EXPERIENCE
OF THAT TIME.
THAT THAT TO YOUR WINDOW IS SO
CRITICAL TO GETTING PEOPLE.
INTO YOU KNOW A STABLE LIVING
ENVIRONMENT WHICH INCLUDES
HOUSING AND THE OTHER SERVICES
AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT OF JOB
ENVIRONMENT SO I ORIGIN I FELT.
THANK YOU THANK YOU BUT STEW
ROLL CALL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SCANNER.
BY I ANDERSON.
ANDERSON HIGH BRADFORD JACKSON
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN WINNER.
THANK YOU BILLS ARE CALLED
BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE TOO MANY
INCLUDING MYSELF I HAVE TO LEAVE
RIGHT NOW TO GO VOTE ENTRANCED.
BY MY WILL HAND THEM A GAVEL TO
MY VICE CHAIR BUT I WILL RETURN
AS SOON AS I HAVE VOTED IN THAT
COMMITTEE --
I AM [inaudible]
TWENTY RIGHT [inaudible]
THERE. SEVEN ZERO ITEM NUMBER.
TWENTY EIGHT EIGHTEEN TWENTY
EIGHT TWENTY THREE GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS.
OF FIRST AND FOREMOST WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE
AND THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE
OF BUT I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED.
AN AIDE TO APPRECIATE THEIR WORK
OUT WITH ME ON THIS.
ONCE AMENDMENT AV TWENTY TWENTY
THREE ENSURES THAT CRIMINALS
THAT HAVE ENGAGED IN HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SERVE THEIR FULL
SENTENCES BY ADDING FELONY LEVEL
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. TO THE
VIOLENT CRIMES LIST IN THE PENAL
CODE DUE TO RECENT AND ONGOING
LITIGATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS AND
REHABILITATION IS OVER
REGULATIONS THE PERPETRATORS OF
THESE CRIMES.
COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR EARLY
PAROLE AND THIS BILL STRENGTHENS
THE PURPOSE OF PROP FIFTY SEVEN
WHICH WAS INTENDED TO ALLOW NON
VIOLENT REHABILITATED OFFENDERS
ELIGIBILITY FOR EARLY RELEASE.
AND NOT PERPETRATORS OF VIOLENT
CRIMES SO WITH THAT I HAVE DAN
OF PHYLLIS AUTO WITH THE LOS
ANGELES DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE.
AS WELL AS JONATHON FELDMAN WHO
WITH THE CALIFORNIA POLICE
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION [inaudible]
GO AHEAD.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BAND
FALLS ON AN APPLE ESSENTIALS
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE -- AS
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED AB --
TWENTY TWENTY THREE REALLY WOULD.
AN ACT WHAT THE VOTERS WERE TOLD
WHEN PROPOSITION --
FIFTY SEVEN THE CAMPAIGN WAS
GOING ON THE PROPONENTS OF PROP.
FIFTY SEVEN TOLD THE VOTERS THAT --
PERPETRATORS OF YOUR REGISTRY
WILL SEX CRIMES SEX OFFENSES
WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR EARLY
RELEASE UNDER PROP --
FIFTY SEVEN UNFORTUNATELY OF THE
REGULATIONS DRAFTED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
OR INVALIDATED BY A SACRAMENTO
SUPERIOR COURT JUDGE --
THE CORPORATIONS IS WORKING ON
OF NEW REGULATIONS THAT WE
HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF THOSE MAY BE --
AS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED THEY
SAY.
AB TWENTY TWENTY THREE WILL
SIMPLY.
HOLD INDIVIDUALS CONVICTED OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR EARLY
RELEASE IT DOES THIS BY ADDING
IT TO THE VIOLENT FELONY LIST
BECAUSE PROP FIFTY SEVEN SAID --
INDIVIDUALS CONVICTED OF
NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS WOULD BE.
ELIGIBLE FOR EARLY RELEASE --
WHAT TWENTY TWENTY THREE DOES
NOT DO IS DOES NOT MAKE IT A
STRIKE?
UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW BECAUSE THE
STRIKE LIST IS SET AT A CERTAIN
DATE -- BY
PASSING THIS BILL WE DO NOT
CHANGE THAT.
IT WILL REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO
SERVE.
A LONGER PERIOD OF INCARCERATION.
OF BUT AS I SAID.
THOSE WERE WHAT THE GOVERNOR AND
THE OF PROPHECY THAT PROPOSITION
FIFTY SEVEN TOLD THE VOTERS AND
I BELIEVE WAS A SIGNIFICANT
REASON WHY.
THE VOTERS CHOSE TO PASS
PROPOSITION.
FIFTY SEVEN SO I SAY THIS IN OUR
OFFICE OPINION.
MERELY FILLS THE WILL OF THE
VOTERS THANK YOU [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
YOUR MEMBERS JONATHAN FELDMAN
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION ECHO THE COMMENTS OF
MY COLLEAGUE FROM LA DS OFFICE
ALSO ON A CLARIFIED THIS DOES
NOT PRECLUDE ANYONE OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS FROM PARTICIPATING
IN REHABILITATION PROGRAMS WHILE
INCARCERATED THEY CAN STILL.
DISPLAYING THE EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAMS.
SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT
PROGRAMS MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT
PROGRAMS.
CLASSROOM TRAINING THEY'RE STILL
ELIGIBLE FOR THE MANY OF THE
CREDITS THAT ARE OFFERED --
TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE
INCARCERATED IT JUST MEANS
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE
FOR THE EARLY EARLY.
PAROLE UNDER PROP FIFTY SEVEN WE
FEEL THAT THIS IS A HUMAN DRIVE
IS WHAT.
MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER IS A
VIOLENT CRIME WE'VE ACTUALLY
POLLED THE PUBLIC DO YOU
CONSIDER HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF
VIOLENT CRIME IN ITS HIGH NINETY
PERCENTILE THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY
BELIEVES IS VIOLENT.
IT CAUSES A GREAT AMOUNT OF
DAMAGE TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND TO
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HURT BY IT.
WE THINK THAT THIS BILL IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT TO
PROP FIFTY SEVEN AND FULLY
SUPPORTED.
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
JOHN OFTEN OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT.
MR RANGER WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
WE HAVE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND VACATING IN
ALLOWING THEM TO SET
[inaudible]
PLEASE.
WHEN YOU'RE READY TO GO AHEAD
AND START?
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
FOR THE AMENDMENTS --
HOWEVER AND THE AUTHOR HOWEVER
WERE SCOTT I'M MARCO GEORGE FROM
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION.
AND WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO THE
BILL.
AND I THINK THE REASON THAT TO
SAY IT MOST DISTINCTLY IS THAT
WE HAVE TRIED IN THE STATE OVER
AND OVER AGAIN. TO ENACT.
TOUGH ON CRIME MEASURES TO LINK
THAN SENTENCES. TO ADD MORE
OFFENSES TO THE SERIOUS FELONIES
AND THE VIOLENT FELONIES LIST.
AND THAT HAS NOT WORKED WHAT IT
FOR ME AS DEEPLY IN DEBT.
IT HURT OUR COMMUNITIES IT
IMPACTED ON PEOPLE OF COLOR AND
IT IMPACTED ALL OF US BECAUSE
ALL OF US UP FOR WHEN THE
RESOURCES ARE DIVERTED.
FROM SCHOOLS AND ROADS AND
PUBLIC HEALTH TO PAY FOR PRISON
CELLS.
SO NO MATTER HOW ODIOUS HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS AND I THINK WE
WOULD ALL AGREE THAT IT IS I
THINK IT --
IT IS MORE ACCURATELY REFERRED
TO WAS SLAVERY.
THIS APPROACH TO IMPRISONING
PEOPLE HAS NOT WORKED.
AND IT HAS HURT.
THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE.
AND IT DOES HURT THE REPUTATION
OF THE STATE.
SO CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION WHICH STILL REMAINS
A POST THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
KATHY SURE FOR THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA --
BY ADDING HUMAN TRAFFICKING TO
THE LIST OF VIOLENT FELONIES --
AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID AB TWENTY
EIGHT TWENTY THREE WOULD WOULD
JUST CONTINUE WHAT IS ALREADY.
CALIFORNIA'S EXPENSIVE AND
INEFFECTIVE OVERRELIANCE ON
INCARCERATION AND WOULD BE IN
DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO WHAT THE
VOTERS INTENDED WHEN THEY
ENACTED PROP.
FIFTY SEVEN THE THE MILITARY
BALLOT MATERIALS FOR PROP FIFTY
SEVEN WORK WERE QUITE CLEAR AND
I THINK OPPONENTS TO THE MEASURE
RAISE THE FACT THAT CRIMES
INCLUDING HUMAN TRAFFICKING WERE
NOT.
INCLUDED ON THE LIST OF VIOLENT
FELONIES AND THE VOTERS YET
STILL OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED IN
SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE --
I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE
SINGLES OUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
FOR TREATMENT AS A VIOLENT
FELONY AND THIS IS A CRIME FOR
WHICH INCREASED PENALTIES.
UP TO A FIFTEEN YEAR TO LIFE
TERM OBJECT ONLY VERY RECENTLY
GONE INTO EFFECT.
ON UP BY DESIGNATING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IS A VIOLENT FELONY
THE BILL WILL NOT ONLY APPLY THE
THE ARM WILL LIMIT THEIR THE
PEOPLE CONVICTED OF THAT CRIME.
ABILITY TO EARN CREDITS BUT IT
ALSO -- WILL
SUBJECT THEM TO A NUMBER OF
SEVERE SENTENCING ENHANCEMENTS
OF APPLICABLE TO TO VIOLENT
CRIMES.
WHEN WE WHEN THE VOTERS VOTED
FOR PROP FIFTY SEVEN THEY
UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CHOICE THAT
THEY WERE MAKING --
AND THAT OF COURSE THERE WERE
CRIMES.
THAT ARE REPREHENSIBLE CRIMES --
THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN IN THE
LIST OF VIOLENT FELONIES AND
WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IT FOR THE
EARLIER PAROLE I'M AND GREATER
CREDIT EARNING UNDER PROP FIFTY
SEVEN BUT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT
THAT WAS WHAT WAS NEEDED TO TO
MOVE THE NEEDLE ON PRISON COSTS
AND MOVE AWAY.
FROM THE INEFFECTIVE OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT
WE'VE HAD ON THE LEGISLATURE
SHOULD NOT BE SECOND GUESSING
THAT CHOICE IN PARTICULAR NOT
DOING IT WITH A CRIME.
WHERE WE HAVE?
ONLY JUST RECENTLY SEEN
INCREASED PENALTIES I'M SERIOUS
PENALTIES ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE
FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND WE
URGE OUR NO FAULT.
ADDITIONAL WITNESS IN OPERA
OPPOSITION. TO HAVING ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES.
MEMBERS ARE GIVING QUESTIONS OR
THE MOTIONS.
I'M LOOKING AT BOTH TO YOU THIS
IS ONLY THE THREE OF US --
I WOULD MOVE THE BILL.
AND SOME REMEMBER IF YOU'D LIKE
TO CLOSE --
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.
THANK YOU I I WAS ONLY GONNA
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE BUT
I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO
LEAVE WITH THE THOUGHT THAT
FIRST AND FOREMOST.
I I THINK I'VE.
YOU LOOK AT MY RECORD YOU'VE
SEEN HOW ICE BOAT.
YOU KNOW WHERE I STOOD ON MOST
OF THESE ISSUES BUT WHEN YOU'RE
LOOKING AT ENSURING THAT THERE'S
DETERRENCE FROM CERTAIN ACTIVITY.
I THINK THIS IS A MILD STEP.
IN ENSURING THAT CERTAIN.
OF OF CHARACTERS [inaudible]
ARE -- THEIR
CRIMES ARE ADDRESSED.
IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY SO.
I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN A I
AM A I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK
YOU'VE DONE.
AND I THINK THE PENDULUM IS
SWINGING TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
BUT I THINK IN CASES LIKE THIS
WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN
CORRECTIONS.
SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE.
OKAY BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE --
IF YOU MAKE IT OUT OF THE
COMMITTEE TODAY I'D LIKE TO BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR.
AND MAKE YOU A MOTION WITH THE
AMENDMENTS.
ARE TAKEN SO IMMENSE GOING TO
APPROACH.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND AND JUST.
TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THERE'S A
LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON AND I
KNOW SOME SOME MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MAY BE PRESENTING IN
OTHER PLACES OR NOT BUT BUT I
DID.
TAKE THEM THE CHAIR WANTED AND I
DO BELIEVE CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG SHE IS NOW SUPPORTING THE
BILL.
YES SO.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I
HAVE A VOICE THAT OUT.
WHEN I WROTE [inaudible]
MAKING SURE.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATION SKINNER.
ANDERSON.
ANDERSON I BRADFORD [inaudible]
JACKSON [inaudible]
MITCHELL [inaudible]
DOWN WINNER.
GONNA LEAVE IT OPEN WE ALLOW
MEMBERS COMING BACK THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION
[inaudible]
WHO'S NEXT [inaudible]
JOHN SAWYER.
THEN IN.
NINETEEN OKAY [inaudible]
YEAH.
SOME WOMEN ARE I THINK YOU'RE
PRESENTING ITEM THIRTY AB.
TWENTY EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT THANK
YOU MISTER.
CHAIR.
I'M PRESENTING A B. TWENTY EIGHT
EIGHTY EIGHT WHICH IS A BILL
REGARDING GUN VIOLENCE
RESTRAINING ORDERS WHICH SENATOR
SCANNER FIRST CHAMPION WHEN SHE
WAS IN THE ASSEMBLY.
EXISTING LAW CURRENTLY ALLOWS A
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR AN
IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER. TO
PETITION THE COURT TO ISSUE A
GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER
PATTERNED AFTER DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDERS.
I WOULD HOPE TO EXPAND THAT TO
EMPLOYERS COWORKERS EMPLOYEES OF
A HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE TO
REQUEST THE COURTS FOR A GOOD
BUNCH OF STRAINING ORDER.
WE INTRODUCED THIS BILL TWO
YEARS AGO GOT IT TO THE GOVERNOR
THE GOVERNOR VETOED IT BECAUSE
GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDERS
HAD JUST STARTED.
COMING INTO ACTION IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN OTHER WE HAD TWO YEARS
WE'VE SEEN HOW THEY'VE BEEN
JUDICIOUSLY USED HAVE NOT BEEN
OVER USED IN SAN DIEGO AS SHARP
AS I'M SURE YOU'RE.
YOU'RE VERY WHERE YOUR CITY
ATTORNEY HAS BEEN SEE WHAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT ISSUE GUN VIOLENCE
RESTRAINING ORDERS TAKING GUNS
AWAY FROM A DANGEROUS
INDIVIDUALS WHO PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T BE HAVING GUNS WE
OFTEN HEAR THAT.
WHICH HAS BEEN OUR TIME FOCUSING
ON GETTING GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS
OF WRONG THE WRONG PEOPLE AND I
THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS
TOOL IS ABOUT.
ALL WE WANT TO EXPAND IT TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE CO WORKERS AND
EMPLOYERS AS PEOPLE AT SCHOOLS
BECAUSE NOW WE'VE SEEN MORE
INCIDENTS EVERY DAY.
MASS SHOOTINGS AT SCHOOLS MASS
SHOOTINGS IN SANTA BARBARA BY
USING UNIVERSITY CALIFORNIA
SANTA BARBARA --
WE HAD A SHOOTING IN SAN
FRANCISCO AT A UPS FACILITY
WHERE GENTLEMAN SHOT UP NUMBERS
COWORKERS SO AGAIN --
COWORKERS PEOPLE YOU GO TO
SCHOOL WOULD SPEND MORE TIME
WITH YOU THAN ALMOST --
YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS SO WE THINK
THIS IS A VERY PRUDENT EXPANSION
AND RESPECTFULLY WOULD ASK FOR
APPLE.
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT PLEASE.
HELLO GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
ARIF PRILIKOM WITH GIFFORD'S LAW
CENTER TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
IN SUPPORT. FOUR YEARS AGO --
IN LARGE PART THANKS --
TO CENTER SKINNER'S LEADERSHIP
CALIFORNIA'S LEGISLATURE ENACTED
LEGISLATION PROVIDE CALIFORNIANS
WITH THIS IMPORTANT TOOL TO
REDUCE THE RISK OF MASS
SHOOTINGS ANOTHER GUN TRAGEDIES
IN OUR STATE.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME A BRUTALLY
FAMILIAR DRUMBEAT OF HIGH
CASUALTY SHOOTINGS AND OTHER
TRAGEDIES HAS DEMONSTRATED THE
IMPORTANCE OF OPENING OUR
COURTROOM DOORS A LITTLE WIDER
IN THIS CONTEXT. TO INCLUDE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE UNIQUE PERSONAL
KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR STUDENT CO
WORKERS DANGERS MIDDLE CONDITION
OR VIOLENT INTENT. FOR INSTANCE
PRIOR TO THE JUNE TWENTY SIXTEEN
SHOOTING AT A NIGHT CLUB IN
ORLANDO FLORIDA.
GUNMAN'S CO WORKERS A PREVIOUSLY
REPORTED THAT HE WAS QUOTE
DANGEROUS UNSTABLE AND UNHINGED.
THEIR PARTY HAD MADE CREDIBLE
THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND OF
COMMITTING A MASS SHOOTING.
BY CONTRAST THE GUNMAN'S FATHER
SAID HIS FAMILY WAS NOT AWARE OF
ANY ACTION WHO'S TAKING.
AND IN SHOCK LIKE THE WHOLE
COUNTRY.
GARMENTS WIFE LEADER HUSBAND WAS
ACTUALLY PLANNING MADE NO
ATTEMPT TO NOTIFY LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
SIMILARLY THE GUNMAN WHO
PERPETRATED THE VALENTINE'S DAY
TWENTY EIGHTEEN SCHOOL SHOOTING
IN PARKLAND FLORIDA HAD
PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROHIBITED BY
HIS SCHOOL OFFICIALS FROM
CARRYING A BACKPACK ON SCHOOL
GROUNDS FOR HE FEARED THAT HE
WAS CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS
IN THEM.
AND YET HIS FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD
MEMBERS BY CONTRAST ALLOWED HIM
TO KEEP ASSAULT WEAPONS IN HIS
HOME DISPLACER IS HISTORY OF
VIOLENT THREATENING BEHAVIOR.
THIS BILL WOULD AUTHORIZE LIFE
SAVING INTERVENTIONS IN CASES
LIKE THESE. TO BE CLEAR THIS
LEGISLATION WOULD NOT IN ANY WAY
ALTER THE STRICT LEGAL STANDARD
IN WHICH COURTS MUST EVALUATE
WHETHER TO ISSUE A GE RO.
ALL OF THE DUE PROCESS
PROTECTIONS AFFORDED BY EXISTING
LAW WOULD STILL APPLY.
EX PARTE SHORT TERM GB AROSE
MAYBE ONLY BE ISSUED AN
EMERGENCY CASES WHERE A JUDGE
FINDS.
BASED ON TESTIMONY SUBMITTED
UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY
REGARDING FAX PERSONALLY KNOWN
TO THE PETITIONER.
THAT THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL
LIKELIHOOD RESPONDED POSES A
SIGNIFICANT DANGER SO FOR OTHERS
IN THE NEAR FUTURE BUT HAVING
ACCESS TO A FIREARM END THAT THE
EX PARTE DE NIRO'S NECESSARY
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE
ALL OTHER INTERVENTIONS HAVE
FAILED.
GB ROSE ISSUED AFTER NOTICE AND
THE HEARING HAVE TO MEET IN EVEN
HIGHER BURDEN OF PROOF.
ANYONE WHO FAILS KNOWINGLY FALSE
HARASSING PETITION IS ALSO
SUBJECT TO FELONY PERJURY
CHARGES.
AND THEN FINALLY TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THE COMMENTS BY THE
OPPOSITION.
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS AND CO WORKERS
ARE ALREADY AUTHORIZED TO OBTAIN
EX PARTE FIREARM PROHIBITING
PROTECTIVE ORDERS AGAINST THE
INTERESTS STUDENT.
OR COLLEAGUE WAS SPECIFICALLY
THREATENED THEM AS INDIVIDUALS.
THE RELEVANT QUESTION IN HERE
TODAY WITH THIS BILL IS SIMPLY
THIS WHETHER THE SAME INDIVIDUAL
SHOULD ALSO BE AUTHORIZED
PRACTICALLY SPEAK FOR OTHERS
SAFETY.
WHEN THEY HAVE PERSONAL
KNOWLEDGE OF A STUDENT OR
COWORKERS A CLEAR DANGER TO
THEMSELVES OR THE PUBLIC AT
LARGE?
THIS BILL WOULD EMPOWER MORE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SEE
SOMETHING AND SAY SOMETHING BY
FILING SWORN EVIDENCE TO A JUDGE
WHEN THEY OBSERVED HERE THREATS
TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE URGE YOU
TO VOTE I THINK.
AND YOUR NEXT WITNESS HELLO GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS.
CALVIN QUICK ON BEHALF OF BAY
AREA STUDENT ACTIVISTS.
WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF AB TWENTY
EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT BECAUSE
FIRSTLY BECAUSE WE ARE OF THE
FIRM CONVICTION THAT.
GPRS ARE A VERY USEFUL TOOL --
DANGEROUS WEAPONS OUT OF THE
HANDS OF POTENTIALLY UP OF
PEOPLE WHO.
COULD POTENTIALLY POSE A
SIGNIFICANT DANGER.
OF INFLICTING HARM ON THEM SELF
OR OTHERS.
THIS BILL IS THE MOVE REASONABLE
EXPANSION OF EXISTING LAW
SURROUNDING GBR ROSE.
ARM AS STUDENTS WE ARE WELL
AWARE FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
THAT.
CO WORKERS TEACHERS ESPECIALLY
OR EVEN EMPLOYERS CAN BE MORE
AWARE IN MANY SITUATIONS VAN
FAMILIES CAN.
OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S POTENTIAL TO
INFLICT SERIOUS HARM ON ON
OTHERS WITH A FIREARM.
ARMS. FOR EXAMPLE ONE NEED LOOK
NO FURTHER THAN THE SHOOTER AT
PARKLAND.
STAFF AND TEACHERS WERE WELL
AWARE THAT HE WAS LIKELY TO POSE
A SERIOUS THREAT TO THE SAFETY
OF STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND
STAFF ON THAT CAMPUS.
HIS OBSESSION WITH FIREARMS TO
START BUT ALSO HIS ANGER
MANAGEMENT ISSUES AND HIS
REPEATED.
STATED INTENT ON MANY OCCASIONS
[inaudible] TO COMMIT A SCHOOL
SHOOTING.
NOW SOME SO CALLED RIGHTS
PROPONENTS FREQUENTLY PLAY ON
THE TROOPS THAT.
GUNS KILL THE GUNS DO NOT KILL
PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.
BUT THAT VERY AIDED STATEMENT IS
A CONCESSION TO THE FACT THAT
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY.
NOT.
QUALIFIED TO BE GIVEN THE BALL
SPONSOR ABILITY.
THE SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITY OF
BEING IN POSSESSION OF A WEAPON
THAT HAS.
THE FULL FORCE.
NOW WE CAN HAVE THE DEBATE ON
THE MERITS OF THAT STATEMENT.
IN OTHER.
SITUATIONS IT SEEMS PATENTLY
OBVIOUS THAT GUNS ARE THE
ENABLING FACTOR FOR THE DEATH OF
HUNDREDS OF DEATHS AND GOTTEN
HUNDREDS OF GUN HOMICIDES IN
THIS COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS
TO SIMPLY KEEP GUNS OUT OF TE
HANDS OF THOSE WHO WOULD USE IT
TO INFLICT HARM ON OTHERS.
AND WITH THAT RESPECTIVELY ASK
FOR YOUR EYE BUT KEEP.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MADAM CHAIRMAN MEMBERS TANTALUS
AUTO TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CRIME VICTIMS ACTION ALLIANCE.
AND ON BEHALF OF OF REBECCA
GONZALEZ FROM THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
RIGHT TO LEAVE EARLIER BOTH IN
SUPPORT.
MANDA WILCOX ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS OF THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
AS THE CHAIR KNOWS ARE THE GUN
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER.
HAS BEEN A PRIORITY AREA OF
FOCUS FOR THE BRADY CHAPTER
SINCE THE LAW WAS FIRST ENACTED
IN.
TWENTY FOURTEEN ARMED WE FEEL
THAT THIS LAW HAS GONE
[inaudible]
HUGE POTENTIAL FOR PROACTIVELY
PREVENTING VIOLENCE SAVING LIVES
BEFORE THE HARM OCCURS AND TO
THE EXTENT THAT THE LAW IS MORE
USED INAPPROPRIATELY USED.
BY EXPANDING WHO COMPETITION OUT
WE SUPPORT THAT THE DRIVE VOTE.
THANK YOU FAIL.
RIGHT THERE IS A MOTION THAT WE
STILL HAVE THE AND LET ME JUST
SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
OKAY SO WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
AFTERNOON THAT --
WAS IF YOU CANNOT THEY SELL YOU
CALIFORNIA UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE
IN A RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL.
AND I WANT TO CLEAR ARE NOT
OPPOSED TO GOVERNMENT CONTROL
MEASURES THAT REMOVE GUNS FROM
PEOPLE WHO POSE A RISK AND TO
THEMSELVES OR TO OTHERS.
AS LONG AS THERE IS THERE ARE
NON DISCRIMINATORY CRITERIA.
FOR MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND
AS LONG AS THERE'S SUFFICIENT
DUE PROCESS AND SO WE DID NOT
OPPOSE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
CALIFORNIA'S I'M GPRS SYSTEM AND
AND WHAT THEY DO --
TEN FOURTEEN BECAUSE THAT WAS
CRAFTED NARROWLY IS THAT ONLY
LAW ENFORCEMENT IN PEOPLE WITH
INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
INDIVIDUALS COULD IT OUT WERE
AUTHORIZED TO SEEK EX PARTE
ORDERS --
WHICH WHICH ARE ISSUED WITHOUT
NOTICE AND AND WITHOUT HEARING.
THIS BILL WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
EXPAND THE CLASS OF PEOPLE
AUTHORIZED TO SEEK EX PARTE
ORDERS AND TO INCLUDE IT.
EMPLOYERS CO WORKERS ANY
EMPLOYEE OF THE SCHOOL THAT AND
THAT A PERSON HAS INTENDED AND
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME
PEOPLE HAVE A VERY CLOSE
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER CO WORKERS
WITH -- WITH
THEIR STUDENTS.
DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF A
WORKPLACE WORKPLACE DYNAMICS
THAT CERTAINLY CAN'T BE SAID OF
EVERY SINGLE COWORKER THAT A
PERSON HAS.
SO FOR THIS REASON WE WE DO FEAR
THAT THIS WOULD BE PRONE TO
ABUSE.
ARMED UNDER TWENTY DATES AT
TWENTY EIGHT AB TWENTY EIGHT
EIGHTY EIGHT SOMEONE OUT WITH
WHO HARBORS AN IRRATIONAL FEAR
OF A CO WORKER.
OF A STUDENT BECAUSE OF THEIR
RACE THEIR RELIGION OF THE
CLOTHES THEY WEAR THEY WOULD BE
AUTHORIZED TO SEEK AN EX PARTE
ORDER --
THIS PERSON WOULD RECEIVE NO
NOTICE NO HEARING.
AT THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD FIND
OUT AS POLICE WOULD ADD TO THE
RESIDENCE TO TO CONFISCATE THEIR
WEAPONS.
ON THIS PERSON THESE INDIVIDUALS
HAVE NOT BEEN ACCUSED OF A CRIME
THEY HAVE NOT COMMITTED ANY
VIOLENCE HAVE NOT MADE ANY
CRIMINAL THREATS.
AND THEY MAY NOT EVEN BE IN
POSSESSION OF ANY FIREARMS ABOUT
IF POLICE SHOW UP.
EXPECTING TO TO FIND FIREARMS A
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY THEY
COULD BE SUBJECTED TO TO A
SEARCH.
ON AND SAID THIS IS VERY
CONCERNING TO US AND I I ALSO
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT.
THE VISION ON SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
APPLIES.
TO EMPLOYEES AT A SCHOOL WHERE
THE PERSON HAS BEEN.
SOMETIME IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS
THE THE WHOLE RATIONALE BEHIND
AN EX PARTE ORDER IS THE URGENCY
OF THE THREAT.
AND SO EX EXTENDING THIS TO A
SIX MONTH TIME PERIOD I THINK IS
REALLY INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT
THE JUSTIFICATION FOR AN EX
PARTE ORDER.
AND SO FOR FOR THESE REASONS WE
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL
[inaudible]
WITNESS.
BUT CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE CURRICULA IS ABOUT
HALF OF THE FARM'S POLICY
COALITION AND OF GUN OWNERS OF
CALIFORNIA.
AND I THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT
WAS JUST STATED IS THAT WE ARE
IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR I
THINK THE IDEA AND THE CONCEPT
IN AND OF ITSELF OF GUN VIOLENCE
RESTRAINING ORDERS IS NOT A BAD
THING.
THE PROBLEM WITH US
FUNDAMENTALLY IS IT REALLY IT
HAS TO DO WITH DUE PROCESS.
AND DUE PROCESS WERE AN
INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHTS AND PROPERTY
ARE TAKEN AWAY.
BEFORE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO FACE THEIR ACCUSERS BEFORE
THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
THEIR DAY IN COURT.
IS NOT IN FACT DUE PROCESS
EARLIER IN ANOTHER COMMITTEE WAS
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.
DAY THAT IN MANY CASES
INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT GETTING
THEIR HEARING THEIR THEIR
HEARING WITHIN TWENTY ONE DAYS
SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN GETTING HERE
AT THE THE HEARING THAT THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO GET UNDER THE
ORIGINAL LAW.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THESE
ARE BEING ISSUED WAY WHEN THEIR
REQUEST ONCE THE REQUEST WE
DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY'RE
BEING ISSUED WE DON'T KNOW HOW
WE'RE STILL FINDING OUT HOW
OFTEN THEY HAVE IN FACT BEEN
RESCINDED.
THE THING IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT HERE IS IS THE RESTRICTION
OF A FUNDAMENTAL A
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
BASED ON AN ACCUSATION AND
BEFORE WE GO WE EXPANDED. TO
INCLUDE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY OR
MAY NOT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP OR
MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THE
INDIVIDUAL WE REALLY OUGHT TO
TAKE A LOOK AT ONE OF THE
POTENTIAL ABUSES HAS IT BEEN
ABUSED.
BUT ALSO FINALLY NOTE THAT THERE
WAS NOTHING UNDER THE CURRENT
LAW THAT PROHIBITS INDIVIDUALS
WHETHER IT IS A COWORKER WEATHER
IS A AN EDUCATOR FROM BEING ABLE
TO GO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND REQUEST THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
SEEK A GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING
ORDER IN THIS CASE.
I ALSO FIND IT INTERESTING THAT
THE ONE GROUP THAT IS ACTUALLY A
PROFESSIONALLY CAPABLE OF
IDENTIFYING WHETHER SOMEONE IS
MENTALLY A DANGER TO THEMSELVES
OR OTHERS HAS BEEN EXCLUDED FROM
THIS BUT THE FRONT OF A BIT
EXCLUDED.
FROM THIS POTENTIAL GROUP.
IT IS FOR THESE REASONS THAT WE
OPPOSE THIS.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD AND
READ WITH NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION ALTHOUGH AN ECHO
WHAT MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE ME IT
SAID IN THE INTEREST OF BREVITY
AS IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY --
BUT ONE THING THAT WAS POINTED
OUT IS THERE AT THE END IS.
SCHOOL EMPLOYEES AND COWORKERS
TO HAVE THIS ABILITY TO GO
THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT RIGHT
NOW AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO
EXPAND THIS TO THEM [inaudible]
WE SHOULD.
WORK ON THIS EXISTING SYSTEM
THAT'S BEEN JUST IN PLACE FOR A
COUPLE YEARS SO WITHOUT RUN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION [inaudible]
ANY --
COMMENTS FROM THE DYESS I WILL
MAKE THE COMMENT THAT IT'S NOTED
THAT WE'VE HAD A LONG HEARING
BUT WE DID.
AND ENTERTAINER BILL AROUND
FIFTY ONE FIFTIES AND CREATING A
LIFETIME PROHIBITION ON GUN
OWNERSHIP AND YET.
OUR GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATES WERE
NOT IN THE ROOM AND DID NOT
TESTIFY NFL --
BUT WE DO NEED A MOTION --
AND THE LIKE I SAID ANY OTHER
COMMENTS SO ASSEMBLY MEMBER TEAM
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
JUST VERY QUICKLY WALKED IN NOT
THE AMERICANIZED THE CHAIR FOR
HER WORK FOR YOUR WORK AROUND
THE ROOM.
IN REALLY EXPANDING ON YOUR
ORIGINAL BILL IN.
TWENTY FOURTEEN MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WERE ASKED TO BE
EXCLUDED SO WE EXCLUDED THEM --
LAST TIME IN TWENTY SIXTEEN WE
DID NOT THIS TIME WE DID IT.
AGAIN THAT'S A VERY SMALL NUMBER
OF GPRS HAD BEEN USED ONLY ABOUT
TWO HUNDRED THIS POINT SO WE
HAVEN'T SEEN THEM.
THE OVER USED TO THIS POINT
RESPECTFULLY ASK THANK YOU FOR
THE CLOTHES I WOULD JUST NOTE
THAT IT IS A MISDEMEANOR IF IT.
SOMEONE MALICIOUSLY.
PURSUE CGV OUR OWN SOMEONE AND I
THINK OBVIOUSLY IF WE FIND.
THAT IF THIS BILL SUCCEEDS IN
THERE I IS ABUSES THAT CLEARLY
THE LEGISLATURE CAN MAKE
MODIFICATIONS.
ARMED WITH THAT WE'LL TAKE A
ROLL CALL.
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER.
BY.
I ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NOW BRADFORD OR
BRADFORD I JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN WINNER --
BILLS ON CALL.
AND THE YEAH.
THE OTHER MEMBERS WILL COME BACK
ANYWAY I BELIEVE THE CELESTIAL.
SO WE WERE GORED THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PATIENCE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
HERE AWHILE.
NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO SEE ME
HAPPY.
I'M BRAIN DEAD AT THIS POINT NOT
REALLY I KNOW I AM COMPLETELY
ALERT.
THE FULLY ENGAGED IN EVERY BILL.
YOU MAY PERCEIVE.
THIS IS ITEM. THIRTY THREE AB.
THIRTY ONE THIRTY ONE IF THE US
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I WILL BE
AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE AND
KNOWLEDGE OF HOW LONG YOU HAVE
BEEN HERE AND I APPRECIATE EVERY
MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.
ON INTELLIGENCE I'M HERE TODAY
TO PRESENT A B. THIRTY ONE
THIRTY ONE THE BILL THAT
RECOGNIZES THE HEIGHTENED
TENSIONS THE INCREASE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES PARTICULARLY
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
WITH REGARD TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES USE OF MILITARY STYLE
EQUIPMENT.
MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT UNDER
HIS ADMINISTRATION PRESIDENT
OBAMA CONVENED A FEDERAL
INTERAGENCY LAW ENFORCEMENT QUIT
WORKING GROUP.
AND ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER
THIRTEEN SIX THIS EXECUTIVE
ORDER LIMITED IN SOME CASES
PROHIBITED THE USE OF MILITARY
GRADE WEAPONS.
AND OTHER EQUIPMENT BY LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES LAST YEAR
THE CURRENT PRESIDENT I ATE
RESCINDED THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER
ALONG WITH THE MANY OF THE
POLICIES AND PROTOCOLS THAT
GOVERN APPROPRIATE
CONSTITUTIONALLY SOUND USES.
OF CONTROLLED MILITARY EQUIPMENT
THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY AB
THIRTY ONE THIRTY ONE REQUIRES
ALL LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM
THEIR GOVERNING BODIES SUCH AS
CITY COUNCILS AND BOARDS OF
SUPERVISORS.
PRIOR TO THE ACQUISITION OF
MILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT.
IN A PUBLIC FORUM FOR ALL
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE
IN THESE DISCUSSIONS THIS BILL
SEEKS TO IMPROVE THE
RELATIONSHIPS POLICE HAVE WITH
THEIR COMMUNITIES WHEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS SEEN AS A PUBLIC
SAFETY SERVICE.
RATHER THAN AN OCCUPYING FORCE
WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON IS A BIT
BRING --
WITH THE DIRECTOR OF POLICY
PRACTICES WITH THE ACLU OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA [inaudible]
THANK YOU [inaudible]
MAY PROCEED [inaudible]
THANK YOU --
THE WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT FERGUSON
MISSOURI IN THE CONTEXT OF
POLICE USE OF FORCE AND POLICE
SHOOTINGS BUT I WANT TO START BY.
REMINDING EVERYONE THAT FERGUSON
JUST FIRST CAME TO NATIONAL
ATTENTION BECAUSE AMERICA SAW
COMMUNITY EXPRESSING ANGUISH AND
FRUSTRATION OVER POLICE VIOLENCE.
AND WE SAW POLICE RESPOND WITH A
SHOCK AND AWE DISPLAY OF
MILITARY POWER.
AGAINST THESE PROTESTERS POLICE
DEPLOYED SNIPERS WITH RIFLES
TANKS ROWS OF OFFICERS WITH
MILITARY GRADE BODY ARMOR AND
ASSAULT WEAPONS.
THOSE IMAGES CAPTURE PROBLEM
WITH POLICING IN AMERICA.
WHEN YOU'RE HOLDING A HAMMER
EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL?
AND IT'S HARD FOR POLICE TO
BUILD TRUST.
AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN
THEY'RE EQUIPPED LIKE AN
OCCUPYING ARMY.
IS SIMPLY MEMBER GLORIA
INDICATED --
THAT STARTED A PUBLIC DISCUSSION
ABOUT POLICE MILITARIZATION THAT
PRESIDENT OBAMA RESPONDED TO BY
CONVENING.
A GROUP OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
LEADERS TO ADDRESS WAYS TO
REGULATE THE TRANSFER OF SURPLUS
MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO POLICE.
THEY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH
PRESIDENT OBAMA PUT INTO AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER --
WHICH ASSEMBLY MEMBER GLORIA
DESCRIBED WHICH PROHIBITED OUT
RIGHT.
SOME OF THE TRANSFER SOME
EQUIPMENT AND PROVIDED
REGULATION --
FOR THE TRANSFER OF OTHERS
REQUIRING THAT LOCAL.
DEPARTMENTS HAVE POLICIES IN
PLACE TO GUARD AGAINST ABUSE
UNFORTUNATELY TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION RESCINDED THIS
ORDER AND THIS IS WHY. EIGHTY
THIRTY ONE THIRTY ONE IS SO
CRITICAL.
HELPS RESTORE THE PROTECTIONS OF
THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER BY PLACING
THE DECISION ABOU WHETHER TO
RECALL ACQUIRE MILITARY
EQUIPMENT IN THE HANDS OF
ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE CLOSEST
TO THE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES.
IT WOULD PERMIT ELECTED LEADERS
TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE COST OF
ACQUIRING USING AND MAINTAINING.
MILITARY EQUIPMENT BY LOCAL
POLICE IS TRULY WARRANTED.
AND IT WOULD REQUIRE LOCAL
POLICE AGENCIES TO ADOPT
POLICIES ON WHEN AND HOW THEY
USE MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO GUARD
AGAINST.
US.
USE AND PREVENT THE DISPARATE
IMPACT THE POLICE EQUIPMENT HAS
ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO BE
CLEAR THIS BILL DOES NOT
PROHIBIT LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES FROM ACQUIRING ANY
PARTICULAR KIND OF EQUIPMENT IT
SIMPLY REQUIRES TRANSPARENCY AND
PUBLIC PROCESS.
PLACING THE QUESTION OF WHETHER
CLINTON IS TRULY NEEDED IN THE
HANDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND BRING TRANSPARENCY
ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE USE OF
MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT WILL
HELP BUILD TRUST BETWEEN POLICE
AND COMMUNITIES.
IT IS FOR THESE REASONS THE ACLU
THANKS OFFICE FOR THEIR
LEADERSHIP.
IS PROUD TO BE A CO SPONSOR AND
URGES YOUR I. ABOUT THANK YOU.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
JIM WONDERED ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
CALIFORNIA --
WERE CO SPONSOR I THINK OUR
ARGUMENTS ARE CITED IN THE
ANALYSIS SO I WON'T REPEAT THEM
HERE JUST ORIGIN I VOTE THANK
YOU.
JOHN LINDSAY POLAND WITH THE
AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICE
COMMITTEE CALIFORNIA HEALING
JUSTICE PROGRAM.
AND WE URGE A AND I VOTE AND
STRONG SUPPORT.
MARCO GEORGE FROM THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
STRONG SUPPORT.
HIS READING WITH ASIAN AMERICANS
INVESTED US CALIFORNIANS
TRANSPORT.
JOHN MICHAEL FOR EQUALITY
CALIFORNIA OUR LETTER WAS TOO
LATE FOR THE ANALYSIS AND FOR
THAT WE APOLOGIZE WE ARE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
HAPPEN QUICK BAY AREA STUDENT
ACTIVISTS ARE LETTER IS NOT ALL
IS ALSO NOT IN THE ANALYSIS BUT
WE ARE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
RIGHT NOW THE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION AND IF YOU DON'T MIND
LEAVE THAT TO ALLOW ROOM FOR THE
TABLE AT THE TABLE
.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS LUCIA MUCH OR ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION.
I RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION TO
AB THIRTY ONE THIRTY ONE ON JUST
THAT THREE POINTS HERE AS A
PRACTICAL MATTER DATA
ACQUISITION OF MILITARY SURPLUS
PROPERTY AFTER OFTEN REQUIRES
BIDDERS TO RESPOND QUICKLY
WITHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO
OBTAIN APPROVAL BY LEGISLATIVE
BODY. FOR EACH PURCHASE WHICH
WAS SEVERELY DISADVANTAGED THE
LET THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
IN YOUR DISTRICT.
IN THEIR ATTEMPTED PARTICIPATION
IN ACQUIRING SECOND THE TYPE OF
PROPERTY CONTEMPLATED BY DISPEL
IS EXCEEDINGLY FAST AND INCLUDES
ITEMS COMMONLY USED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT SUCH AS HELICOPTERS.
AND FINALLY AB THIRTY THIRTY ONE
THIRTY ONE INTERFERES WITH THE
ABILITY OF INDEPENDENTLY ELECTED
KIND OF CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
TO ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT AT A COST
SAVINGS FOR DEPLOYMENT FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
YOU ELECTED SHERIFFS ARE
CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF RESPONDING
TO THE CONCERNS OF THEIR
CONSTITUENTS WHEN IT COMES TO
THEIR PURCHASING AND DEPLOYMENT
OF APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT.
FORTIES REASONS RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR NOVEL THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS --
JOHN OF THE FILM OF CALIFORNIA
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION I
STAND BY THE COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES WITH THE ONE STATE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION WE ALSO
OPPOSE THE BILL.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION --
I THINK THE GERMANE POINT WAS
THAT IN THE PAST WHEN THIS BILL
WAS VETOED THERE WERE
APPROPRIATE FEDERAL --
FOR SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT
CONSIDER INAPPROPRIATE BUT
RATHER THEY WERE AT LEAST
FEDERAL.
RULES AROUND THIS TYPE OF
EQUIPMENT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
AND THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE.
SO I THINK THAT --
JERMAINE WAS POINTED OUT IN THE
ANALYSIS AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY FAMILY
MEMBER AT GLORY YOU CAN CLOSE.
I'LL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS AS MY
CLOTHES ON A CHAIR OKAY --
WILL DO A ROLL CALL THE MOTION
IS TO PASS A GOVERNMENT OF
FINANCE.
SKINNER RIGHT THERE I ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NO BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL ICE DOWN WINNER.
IN YOUR EYES.
IF WE'RE TO DO CONSENT CALENDAR
YES WE KNOW OKAY NO WE DID NOT
RETURN [inaudible]
FOR OKAY --
THANK YOU SO REMEMBER GLORY WILL
HAVE YOUR BILL OWNED CALL
BECAUSE WE HAVE MISSING MEMBERS.
THINKING THAT ALRIGHT THANK YOU
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE ROLE
ON SOME THINGS --
I WILL LET THE SECRETARY PROCEED
ON THAT AS YEAH I GUESS YOUR DID.
YOU SEE OVER HERE YOU WOULD GO.
TO TRADITIONAL ASK THE BOTH OF
US WILL BE HERE.
YES.
YOUR HONOR.
VERY FEW I'M MISSING OKAY ALL
RIGHT.
WELL WHAT WE COULD DO IS OPEN IT
THAT I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO
ALLOW.
MISTER WEINER MS MITCHELL TO BE
ABLE TO ADD ADD ON TO SO THEY
DON'T HAVE TO STAY BUT OTHERWISE
ALL STAY FOR YOU AND MS JACKSON
TO COME BACK OKAY.
HE DID WHAT.
THAT WOULD BE FINE ACTUALLY.
UNLESS I START GETTING CRAZY AND
THEN I WILL ASK.
COME DOWN IN THE FIFTY ONE YEAH.
WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE IT AWAY
[inaudible]
OR WE CAN REPORT [inaudible]
ARE.
SO MR WITH ITEM.
TO YEAH.
EIGHTY THREE MOTION IS TO PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS.
WINNER.
RIGHT LEANER ARE [inaudible]
WE'RE GONNA. EIGHTY THREE SEVEN
TWO MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS.
CURRENT VOTE IS SIXTY ZERO
WINNER.
IN HERE I HAVEN'T EVEN TO
SEVENTY TWO IS OUT.
THERE.
YOU COULD SAY.
IT WAS --
MARK.
MARK DOWN.
THE LESS OUT.
SEVEN ZERO ITEM FOUR EIGHTY NINE
NINE EIGHT MOTION IS DO YOU PASS.
DID YOU DASH.
CURRENT VOTE IS FORTY ZERO
JACKSON RAY WINNER [inaudible]
WINNER I THE ROLE OF ITEM FIVE
AB SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE I NEED
TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON THE
MOTION.
MOTION IS DO YOU PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS.
CURRENT VOTE IS.
TWO TO ZERO ENTER TO WIN A
MINUTE I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GO TO
THAT HATES THE THE KIND.
NORAD EARNING NOT VOTING
[inaudible]
JACKSON [inaudible]
WINNER [inaudible]
I FOR BOTH OF THOSE [inaudible]
YEAH.
I DIDN'T HAVE YOU KNOW.
MITCHELL [inaudible]
OKAY [inaudible]
OKAY.
MAYBE EIGHTEEN EIGHTY TWO MOTION
IS TO YOUR PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE IS TWO TO ZERO
SKINNER [inaudible]
AUTHORITIES AROUND.
HI.
INNER EYE BRADFORD.
BEDFORD HIGH MITCHELL MITCHELL I
WINNER.
METER HIGH [inaudible]
IF.
YEAH THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
AS SKINNER.
HER I. BRADFORD.
RADFORD I'D JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL I WINNER.
YOUR I BUT I DON'T SEE A NEED TO
HOLD THE ROLE OF AN ECHO HAD.
ITEM EIGHT EIGHTY NINETEEN
NINETEEN MOTIONS TO PASS TO GEO
CURRENT VOTE IS.
THREE TO ZERO BRADFORD.
RADFORD HIGH WINNER.
IN HER EYES.
ITEM TEN AB NINETEEN THIRTY NINE
MOTION IS TO PASTOR
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS.
THREE TO ZERO DOWN AT THE MUSEUM
HERE WINNER.
WINNER I DEVELOPMENT --
ITEM ELEVEN EIGHTY NINETEEN
FORTY EIGHT MOTION IS TO PASS
THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT
VOTE IS THREE TO ZERO BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I WINNER WINNER ARE.
LIBERAL OPEN.
ITEM TWELVE EIGHTEEN NINETEEN
SIXTY EIGHT MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS.
FIVE TO ZERO AND NEITHER OF THEM
ARE HERE.
THE NEXT ONE A. B..
C. ITEM THIRTEEN EIGHTY TWO
THOUSAND FIVE MODEL AND SO WE
HAVEN'T VOTED NEVER MIND THE
HOLEY ACTIVE NECK SORRY.
OKAY ITEM FOURTEEN AB TWENTY
SEVENTY EIGHT THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE TO ZERO WINNER.
WINNER I WE'VE BEEN.
ITEM.
FIFTEEN MAYBE TWENTY ONE TWENTY
FOUR MOTION IF YOU PASS THE GEO
CURRENT VOTE IS THREE TO ZERO
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD I WINNER.
I LIBERAL OPEN.
AND TWENTY TWO TWENTY FOUR
NINETY FIVE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE FLOOR.
CURRENT LOTUS THREE TO ZERO
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD HI MITCHELL.
I'M SORRY. TWENTY FOUR NINETY
FIVE MAY S. [inaudible]
THE CAN'T CHARGE FOR PROSECUTION
OF NUISANCE BASED. TWENTY TWO
TWO SO THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
CAN'T CHARGE YOU FOR IT
PROSECUTING YOU FOR NUISANCE
ABATEMENT [inaudible]
SO I AT IBM [inaudible]
AND ITEM TWENTY FOUR EIGHTY
TWENTY FIVE THIRTY THREE NOTION
AS YOU PASS THE PROCREATION.
VOTE IS [inaudible]
THREE TO TWO MITCHELL.
SO OUR WINNER.
WINNER I THAT DOES HELP FILL
THIS OUT TWENTY FIVE AB TWENTY
FIVE THIRTY THREE IS OUT AND
IT'S GOING TO OFF TO
APPROPRIATIONS.
THAT WE THAT WAS PULLED.
OUT OF THEIR BIGGER BILLS POLICE.
PEOPLE THAT I'VE USED. FOR ABOUT
[inaudible]
OKAY.
IT IS A REAL RECORD.
AND I AM.
TWENTY SEVEN EIGHTY TO TWENTY
SEVEN ONE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE IS.
THREE TO ZERO RADFORD --
BATTERED BY.
AND WINNER.
WINNER BY.
THE ROLE OF AND I DID TWENTY
EIGHT BB TWENTY EIGHT TWENTY
THREE MOTION IS DO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
I AM.
TWENTY EIGHT THIS.
IS.
THE SKINNER.
YEAH AND HE HE DID REDUCE IT. TO
US.
DESTINY TRAFFICKING CASE.
BY ENTERPRISE STRATFORD.
OKAY.
JACK.
MITCHELL.
WE YOU KNOW.
WHICHEVER SIR [inaudible]
IF ANYBODY.
ITEM TWENTY NINE TWENTY EIGHT
SEVENTY SIX MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT FOCUS
[inaudible]
THREE TO ZERO ANDERSON --
IT'S WIERD TAP --
THE SPONSORED LIFE LEDS
CONSPIRED.
NO IT'S NOT.
GIVEN. TO YOU KNOW THIS IS THE
VEHICLE IMPOUNDMENT RIGHT.
NOW.
ANDERSON NOW BRADFORD.
BAD FOR OUR I WROTE.
I HAVE HEARD OF THE ITEM. THIRTY
ONE THE MOTION IS PASTOR OF
CREATION.
IS [inaudible]
THREE TO ONE WINNER.
ARE YOU KNOW.
DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE.
AND BABY.
ITEM.
THIRTY THREE THIRTY ONE THIRTY
ONE WHICH IS TO PASS THE
GOVERNMENTS OF FRANCE.
RADFORD FIVE AFTER I YEAH YEAH
YOU REALIZE YOU WILL NOT BE
VOTED ON I THINK IT.
THIS MOVIE DOES IT.
IT WAS THE NUMBER I'VE GOT YOU
OUT ON A YOU HAVE A MOUNTAIN
YEAH WE HAD A DAVIS ALSO KEEP.
KEEPING A TALLY AND HE SAYS.
HER ARMS.
RIGHT NOW OKAY.
SO NOW I THINK MS MITCHELL IS
WHETHER.
WE THINK BOTH YOUR GUIDE.
BRADFORD YOU'VE DONE.
YES GOT ONLINE SO BUT WE STILL
HAVE FIRST. ONE TWO THREE BOX
ABOUT [inaudible]
YEAH.
AND THIS AND THAT [inaudible]
KNOWING JACK [inaudible]
YEAH.
AND THEN THE ITEM.
FOR NINE THE PAST TWO DAYS.
THE OTHER SIDE ALL RIGHT
ANDERSON --
WHO'D TAKEN OVER THREE MONTHS.
YES.
I HAVE YEAH.
IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY --
AS SOON AS THE CHAIR OF THE ROOM
GOING TO DO THAT [inaudible]
YES.
THAT WAS SMART OF YOU ITEM IN
MAYBE NINETEEN NINETEEN OF
PASSAGE YEAH.
YEAH YEAH.
JACKSON'S HERE.
OKAY.
WILL ADD HER TO WHATEVER YEAH WE
CAN.
STORE YOU CAN JUST KEEP GOING
KEEP GOING.
BACK ON THAT.
ONE ITEM NUMBER TEN EIGHTY NINE
LET MS JACKSON COLLECTOR STUFF
IN CASE.
THERE YEAH DON'T WORRY.
IN THE RUN ITEM NUMBER.
TEN CHAMPION OF ACTION EVEN
RUSSIAN ALL DAY THIS.
GRAPH.
THIS IS WHY IS THE BIG BUCKS FOR
THE YEAH FINE OR FOR THE OKAY A
CALIFORNIA VICTIMS COMPENSATION
BOARD.
OKAY OKAY.
BETTER TIME AND IS A HARD
JACKSON.
ACTS OF HEINZ.
RECENTLY DOWNSIZED DON'T COME
BACK.
OKAY AT THIS POINT GIVEN ALL
LAST WEEK WRITING A LETTER.
IN THE NINETEEN FORTY EIGHT
MOSTLY PASSIVE RECREATION.
ANDERSON HIGH INTERCEPT HIGH
JACKSON.
JACKSON OUT SEVEN ZERO OUT OF A
MOVING ON TO APPROPRIATIONS.
705-121-81960 EIGHT ASSISTANT
PASTOR FIRST. ZERO MANNER SINCE
NOW.
NOW JACKSON OBJECTS THAT ARE.
SIX ONE MAYBE NINETEEN SIXTY
EIGHT SIX ONE IS OUT.
ITEM THIRTEEN EIGHTY TWO
THOUSAND FIVE WHICH IS THE
PASTOR PREPARATIONS PART OF OF
THE SPICES HERE AND THE OTHER
SIDE.
AND IT'S A LOT OF JACKSON'S
OBJECTS THAT.
THERE'S FROM THE C. B. --
200-058-2000 FIVE OUT.
SEVEN ZERO ITEM FOURTEEN AB
TWENTY SEVENTY EIGHT MOTIONS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS.
ANDERSON THIS IS A TWO ZERO
SEVEN EIGHT YASSER ARAFAT.
ANDERSON HIGH JACKSON ON JACKSON
HIGH.
HOLDING IT FOR STONE.
OKAY.
ITEM FIFTEEN EIGHTY TWENTY ONE
TWENTY FOUR ASSIST YOU PASS THE
GEO FRONT THAT IS FIVE TO ZERO
ANDERSON.
ANDERSON I'D JACKSON OBJECTS IN
OUR TWENTY ONE TWENTY FOUR SEVEN
ZERO BILLS OUT.
FOUR NINETY FIVE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE IS
TRYING TO BECOME THIS OUT.
BIGGER NOVELS [inaudible]
YEAH.
ITEM TWENTY WHEN WE HEAR IT NEXT
WEEK.
WHEN ANOTHER MARATHON HERE AB
TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE THE
CURRENT THAT IS FIVE TO ZERO
JACKSON?
WHILE JACKSON HEIGHTS.
IF THE BILLS ON OVERHAULING.
THAT'S TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE
MACE.
K. ITEM TWENTY THREE EIGHTY
TWENTY FIVE OH FOUR MOTION IS
THE PASTOR PROCREATION CURRENT
VOTE IS FIVE TO ZERO ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NOW JACKSON.
JACKSON I AB TWENTY FIVE OH FOUR
BILLS OUT.
SIX ONE I AM TWENTY SEVEN EIGHTY
TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY MOTION IS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT
FOCUS.
FIVE TO ZERO JACKSON.
SO.
LONG AS WALTER INSIDE OF IN THE
MORNING.
AFTER.
YOU THINK YOU WOULD TWENTY
MISTER VICE CHAIRSEVEN I KNOW
THERE ARE QUITE A TWENTY SEVEN
AND TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY SEVEN
HOT.
JACKSON JACKSON HIGH. TWENTY
SEVEN TWENTY RELIEVE OPEN ITEM.
TWENTY EIGHT EIGHTY TWENTY EIGHT
TWENTY THREE PARSONS DO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT.
IS [inaudible]
THREE TWO ZERO JACKSON.
MAY I JUST LIMIT THIS.
TO HAPPEN CORRECTIVE ACTION.
JACKSON ARE REALLY THE CRYSTAL.
ITEM TWENTY NINE MAYBE TWENTY
EIGHT SEVENTY SIX MOTION IS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT
VOTE IS FIVE TO ONE JACKSON
[inaudible]
JACKSON ARE.
SO EVERY TWENTY EIGHT SEVENTY
SIX IS NOW ABOUT.
I AM THIRTY EIGHT TO TWENTY
EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT MATCHES TO
PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT
ABOUT FOUR TO ONE ACCENT HIGH
JACKSON ARE.
WE'RE LEAVING THAT OPEN SYSTEM
AB TWENTY EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT
WILL.
STAY OPEN.
ITEM THIRTY THREE EIGHTY THIRTY
ONE THIRTY ONE FINANCE.
ABOUT FOUR TO ONE JACKSON.
JACKSON ARE.
THE FIRST IN.
THE BEGINNING OF THE DEBATE
[inaudible]
YEAH [inaudible]
SO AFTER.
MORE OR LESS IF YOU HAVE TO
START CREATIONS.
JACKSON HIGH.
WHICH ONE WE KNOW ISN'T HEALTH
WITH A THREE STEP ONE IS TO HOLD
A BABY IS OUT BUT FOR HIS IN THE
FINALS EARLY ON BUT I JUST ONE
ANSWER.
RIGHT. EIGHTY THREE IS OUT.
AND MAYBE RESULT.
ITEMS AB WHICH IS THERE IS.
THERE IS NO EIGHTY THREE EIGHTY
THREE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE IS MY
ITEM TWO REVIEW THREE OUT.
OF THIS.
IT'S SIX ZERO JACKSON.
OKAY NOT PROJECTS OF BILLS OUT.
BILLS OUT SIXTY ZERO EIGHTY NINE
NINE EIGHT MOVING ON TO THE DISH.
EIGHT ITEM FIVE AB SEVENTEEN
THIRTY FIVE MOTIONS TO PASTOR
APPROPRIATIONS FOR ABOUT IS
THREE TO ZERO JACKSON.
JACKSON HIGH.
WHAT IS IT?
AB SEVENTEEN THIRTY FIVE FOUR
ZERO IS OUT.
ITEM SIXTY EIGHTY EIGHTEEN
EIGHTY TWO TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. FOR ABOUT SIX TO
ZERO JACKSON.
TAXES ARE.
ALSO NEEDED TO SELL. EIGHTEEN
EIGHTY TWO IS NOW ON ITS WAY TO
APPROPRIATIONS ITEM.
SEVEN EIGHTY EIGHTEEN NINETY
CENTS I THINK SHE WAS HERE THAT
I KNOW OF IT OKAY [inaudible]
JACKSON.
KIND CAN SENSE THIS ISN'T.
I APOLOGIZE YES.
THAT'S FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR
IS NO.
SEVEN ZERO OUT.
IN THE NIGHT YES YES ITEM EIGHT
IN NINETEEN NINETEEN DO PASS TO
GEO JACKSON.
JACKSON HIGH NINETEEN NINETEEN
IS OUT.
WHAT'S THE VOTE EIGHTY NINETEEN
NINETEEN SIX ONE OUT.
IT.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING TO GET OUR
STUFF PHYSICAL COMBAT.
THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT IS IN
NEED OF SOME HELP YEAH
.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
NUMBER TEN IS THE FIRST.
TIME THE FIRST [inaudible]
ONE THE NUMBER OKAY.
THANK YOU DIES OR BETTER IN OUR
HI.
DOWN I YEAH.
EVEN.
OUT ITEM [inaudible]
FOURTEEN EIGHTY TWENTY SEVENTY
EIGHT DOWN BY [inaudible]
AND I THOSE ARE [inaudible]
AND ONE SEVENTY EIGHT IS AB.
TWENTY SEVENTY EIGHT WHAT'S THE
VOTE [inaudible] ZERO OUT.
AND I DID TWENTY TWO EIGHTY
TWENTY FOUR NINETY FIVE DOWN.
FIVE I SO AB TWENTY FOUR NINETY
FIVE IS OUT [inaudible]
SEVEN ZERO AND AND THAT.
MAYBE.
AT A HEIGHT OF TWENTY SEVEN
EIGHTY TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY DOWN
I DON'T I AB TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY
EIGHT SEVEN ZERO IT'S OUT.
AND ITEM [inaudible]
TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT TWENTY THREE
DOWN.
I DON'T I 283-050-2020 THREE IS
OUT SEVEN ZERO ZERO SKEWS ME
FIVE ZERO COLLEGES ITEM THIRTY
AT.
TWENTY EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT YEAH
NO DOWN NOW AB TWENTY EIGHT
EIGHTY EIGHT IS ABOUT.
FIVE TO AND THEN.
EIGHTY THIRTY ONE THIRTY ONE AND
HEARD ABOUT IS FIVE TO ONE DOWN.
DOWN DOWN MAYBE THIRTY ONE
THIRTY ONE IS OUT.
FIVE TO THANK YEAH.
QUITE WELCOME THANK YOU.
FOR HANGING IN THERE ALL DAY
TODAY WE DID.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT WHICH
ONE TWENTY SEVEN LOOK AT LOOK AT
EIGHTY SEVEN FORTY GOT IT I GOT
IT [inaudible]
YES [inaudible]
OKAY [inaudible]
ALRIGHT.
STEPHANIE WORSE.
MAGNIFIES IT RIGHT.
FOR YES I
HAVE TO SERVE [inaudible]
YEAH.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS
GLUED CONCLUDED ITS BUSINESS FOR
THE DAY WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED