BY EMMA CALLING THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO ORDER. OF
WE WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM NOW THAT WE HAVE FOUR
MEMBERS SO MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON HERE JACKSON HERE
MORLOCK. MORE LUCK HERE
ANDERSON.
ANDERSON HERE HERTZBERG. MORNING
STERN CASKEY BY CASKEY HERE.
FORM IS PRESENT.
BEFORE WE START.
THEIR NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT I
WANT TO. ADDRESS BEFORE WE BEGIN
OUR SPECIAL ORDER. OF BUSINESS
WE HAVE. TWO MEASURES THAT HAVE
BEEN PULLED FROM TODAY'S
CALENDAR. AB THIRTY FORTY ONE BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CUNNINGHAM AB
THIRTY TO FIFTY BY THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE
HERE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS WERE.
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU JOIN US BUT
THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD
TODAY. WE ALSO HAVE TWENTY TWO
ITEMS ON PROPOSED CONSENT AGAIN
IF ANY OF YOU WERE HERE ON THOSE
ITEMS. FILE ITEM ONE SP FIFTEEN
ELEVEN THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE'S.
MEASURE WITH AMENDMENTS FILE
ITEM FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
SEVENTEEN THIRTY NINE. BY CHILD
FILE ITEM SIX A. B. NINETEEN
THIRTY FOUR JOHN SAWYER FILE
ITEM SEVEN A. B. NINETEEN SIXTY
BY OVER NOLTE FILE ITEM TEN. AB
TWENTY SEVENTY THREE. SANTIAGO
FILE ITEMS.
OF.
TRUE EXCUSE ME FILE ITEM TEN AB
TWENTY SEVENTY THREE BY TRUE
FILE ITEM TWELVE TWENTY ONE
THIRTEEN OVER NOLTE FILE ITEM
THIRTEEN AB TWENTY ONE SEVENTY
THREE SANTIAGO. FILE ITEM
FOURTEEN AB TWENTY ONE SEVENTY
SIX JOAN SOARER FILE ITEM
SEVENTEEN AB TWENTY TO THIRTY
SIX MAN TRYING FILE ITEM
NINETEEN ASSEMBLY BILL TWENTY
THREE SEVENTY SIX STONE. FILE
ITEM TWENTY AB TWENTY FOUR
THIRTEEN TRUE. FILE ITEM TWENTY
ONE AB TWENTY FOUR TWENTY SIX
MAN TRYING FILE ITEM TWENTY TWO
AB TWENTY FIVE THIRTY ONE
GALLAGHER. FILE ITEM TWENTY FOUR
AB TWENTY SIX FORTY TWO LEVINE
FILE ITEM TWENTY FIVE AB TWENTY
SIX SIXTY FOUR HOLDEN. FILE ITEM
TWENTY SIX AB TWENTY SIX NINETY
FOUR RUBIO WITH AMENDMENTS.
FILE ITEM TWENTY SEVEN AB TWENTY
SEVEN SEVENTY BY IRWIN FILE ITEM
TWENTY EIGHT AB TWENTY SEVEN
NINETY TWO CALDERONE. FILE ITEM
THIRTY AB TWENTY EIGHT FORTY
SEVEN UP BY RUBIO WITH
AMENDMENTS FILE ITEM THIRTY FOUR
ASSEMBLY BILL THIRTY FORTY SEVEN
DAILY FILE ITEM THIRTY FIVE AB
THIRTY TO FORTY EIGHT JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE. AND FILE ITEM THIRTY
SIX AC ARE ONE SEVENTEEN BY
THURMAN. IF ANYONE IF ANYONE
REMEMBERS THOSE ALL YOU WILL GET
AN EIGHT. OTHERWISE OTHERWISE WE
WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION THE
MOTION BY SENATOR MOORE LOCK ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL MADAM SECRETARY.
JACKSON HIGH JACKSON I'M MORE
LOOK MORE LIKE I ANDERSON
ANDERSON I HURTS FOR. MINING
STERN QUITE CASKEY WHAT CASSIE
I.
ALRIGHT OTHER BILL HAS FOUR
VOTES WE WILL HOLD IT OPEN FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS AND I KNOW
THE SERGEANTS HAVE BEEN TRYING
TO BRING. THE OTHER MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE HERE IF YOU COULD
CONTINUE TO CALL THEM. TO SEE IF
WE CAN GET THEM HERE THERE ARE
NUMBER OF ITEMS GOING ON RIGHT
NOW NUMBER OF COMMITTEES MEETING
SO. THE FACT THAT SOME MEMBERS
AREN'T HERE REALLY IS JUST THAT
WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT A CLONING
MECHANISM YET AND SO THEY WILL
COME HOPEFULLY AS QUICKLY AS
THEY CAN. SO WE'RE GOING TO TURN
NOW TO THE MEASURES ON TODAY'S
CALENDAR WE HAVE A SPECIAL ORDER
OF BUSINESS. ARE THAT WILL BE
PRESENTED FIRST IT'S AB TWENTY
NINE FORTY THREE BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LOW. AFTERWARDS WE WILL
RETURN TO OUR REMAINING MEASURES
WHICH WILL THEN BE HEARD IN FILE
ORDER NOW THE WAY WE DO THINGS
HERE IN THIS COMMITTEE. IS THAT
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR EACH A
MEASURE TO BE.
AFTER THE MEMBER INTRODUCES AND
PRESENTS THEIR BILL THAT WOULD
THERE WILL BE TWO MAIN WITNESSES
TWO MINUTES EACH FOR SUPPORT. AT
AT AT THAT POINT TIME WE'RE
GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO.
LINE UP AT THE MICROPHONE HERE
GIVE TRUST YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION WITH WHOM YOU'RE
AFFILIATED AND IF YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL OBVIOUSLY
SAY IN SUPPORT. IT THEN WE'RE
GOING TO TAKE UP.
AND HAVE THE OPPOSITION COME
FORWARD AND SOME REALLY HAVE TWO
MAIN WITNESSES. TO WIN THE TWO
MINUTES EACH FOR THE OPPOSITION
AND THEN HAVE THE OPPOSITION
COME UP AT THE MICROPHONE LINE
UP BY THE MICROPHONE GIVE YOUR
NAME AFFILIATION. AND OBVIOUSLY
YOUR POSITION OPPOSED TO THE
BILL WE ALSO ENJOYED PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN STRONG NEUTRALITY THAT'S
AN OPTION AS WELL IF THEY'RE
PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY BUT
BASICALLY WE ANTICIPATE WILL
HAVE PEOPLE IN SPORT. AND PEOPLE
IN OPPOSITION WILL GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY GIVE YOUR NAME AND
YOUR AFFILIATION AND THEN TO.
INDICATE YOUR OPPOSITION OR
SUPPORT FOR THE MEASURE SO. WE
ARE GOING TO START. WITH OUR
SPECIAL ORDER BUSINESS WHICH IS
FILE ITEM THIRTY ONE AB TWENTY
NINE FORTY THREE BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LOW AND TO IF YOU WOULD
COME FORWARD TO ALSO WITH US
SENATOR.
WEINER WHO IS THE I THINK
PRINCIPAL CALL ARE THROUGH THE
BILL EACH WILL SPEAK BRIEFLY ON
THE BILL. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. AND WHAT
I'D LIKE TO DO IS WAIT UNTIL
EVERYTHING IS WE'VE GONE THROUGH
THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND THEN
ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS FROM THE
DIETS SO WITHOUT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOK GOOD
AFTERNOON AND THE FLOOR IS
YOURS.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AT A FEW SHOULD THE
OPPORTUNITY PRESENT ASSEMBLY
BILL TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE. OF
THIS BILL IS CO AUTHORED BY ALL
EIGHT MEMBERS OF THE LGBT
LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS. I TO BE
CLEAR TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT
THIS BILL DOES. DECLARES THE
SERVICE OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION
CHANGE EFFORTS ALSO KNOWN AS
CONVERSION THERAPY OR IMPERATIVE
THERAPY BY ALL PEOPLE IN
EXCHANGE FOR MONEY. A FRAUDULENT
BUSINESS PRACTICE AND PROTECTS
ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THIS
DOES NOT DO. THIS BILL DOES NOT
BANNED THE SALE OF THE BIBLE OR
ANY GOODS FOR THAT MATTER. IT
DOES NOT PROHIBIT FREE SPEECH IT
DOES NOT PREVENT ANYONE FROM
SPEAKING OR WRITING ON THE
SUBJECT OF CONVERSION THERAPY
THE BILL CLEARLY. CLARIFIES WHAT
CONVERSION THERAPY IS WHICH IS
THAT OF A FRAUDULENT PRACTICE.
NOW VERY SPECIFICALLY THEY WERE
RECENT AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ALSO
TAKEN AND THE MEAT ALSO JUST
HIGHLIGHT WHAT THOSE RECENT
AMENDMENTS WERE THE FIRST
AMENDMENT CLARIFIES THAT EFFORTS
TO PROMOTE. HEALTHY SEXUAL AND
ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS WITHOUT
ATTEMPTING TO CHANGE ONE'S
SEXUAL ORIENTATION ARE NOT
PROHIBITED UNDER THIS BILL. THE
SECOND AMENDMENT CLARIFIED THAT
THIS BILL APPLIES TO SERVICES
ONLY. NOT GOODS WHICH INCLUDES
BOOKS SO AGAIN THIS THESE
AMENDMENTS ARE CLEARLY STATED
HERE IN THE OPENING. AND WANT TO
BE VERY SPECIFIC AND CLEAR ON
WHAT THE BILL DOES AND WE
APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THOSE
MOMENTS TO CLARIFY THOSE ISSUES
YES. LET ME ALSO STATE FOR THE
PUBLIC RECORD THAT I APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SEEING
DEMOCRACY IN ACTION I THINK IT'S
HEALTHY. FOR US TO CONTINUE TO%
HAVE AN OPEN DIALOGUE AND A
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND
RESPECTING. OPINIONS AND POINTS
OF VIEWS.
AND WITH ME ARE INDIVIDUAL
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT BUT BEFORE I
GO INTO ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
SPORT ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE OUR%
OF JOINT AUTHOR OF THIS BILL AND
THAT IS SENATOR SCOTT WEINER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
WINNER.
I'VE. THANK YOU I MADAM CHAIR
AND I WANT TO THANK. MY
COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND OF SOME
WOMEN ARE LOW FOR HIS LEADERSHIP
ON THIS. IMPORTANT ISSUE. I ALSO
JUST WANT TO. ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
TODAY. IS THE TWO YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF THE MASSACRE OF.
FORTY NINE.
PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY ALSO BE
T. LET'S YOU KNOW PEOPLE IN THE
POLLS NIGHTCLUB.
IN ORLANDO THE HATRED AGAINST
OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THE DESIRE TO ARRIVE A KID
US UNFORTUNATELY CONTINUES TO
EXIST ODD. UNTIL TODAY.
COLLEAGUES ARE CONVERSION
THERAPY.
IS PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE TO
VERY SIMPLE BANK.
I. IT ASSUMES. THAT BEING.
LGBT BEING A GAY MAN BEING A
LESBIAN.
BEING LGBT. IS AN ILLNESS.
OR A PROBLEM. TO BE FIXED AS
OPPOSED TO SIMPLY WHO SOMEONE
IS.
WE HAVE A TERRIBLE HISTORY IN
THIS COUNTRY. AND IN THIS WORLD.
BOB EFFORTS.
TORTURE TO TRY TO MAKE LGBT
PEOPLE NOT ELIGIBILITY.
THE HISTORY OF LOBOTOMIES.
THE HISTORY OF SHOCK ELECTRIC
SHOCK TREATMENT.
THE HISTORY OF
INSTITUTIONALIZATION.
SENDING PEOPLE. TO MENTAL
HOSPITALS.
IN ORDER TO.
TRY TO CHANGE US.
THIS IS BEEN HAPPENING. FOREVER.
AND IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. I
DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT
WHETHER YOU CALL CONVERSION
THERAPY OR SOMETHING ELSE.
IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO.
THE RACE.
PEOPLE LIKE ME UNLIKE IVAN LOW.
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ERASE OUR
COMMUNITY FROM EXISTENCE.
EITHER PRETEND THAT WE DON'T
EXIST. WERE ACTUALLY MAKE IT SO
THAT WE DON'T. EXIST.
IT IS SHOCKING.
IN SOME WAYS THAT IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN.
THIS IS STILL HAPPENING.
THAT THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE
IS STILL HAPPENING.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT.
THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS
STILL HAPPENING.
LEST THERE BE ANY DOUBT THAT
WITH ALL OF OUR VICTORIES AS A
COMMUNITY AROUND MARRIAGE
EQUALITY OR WHATEVER ELSE.
THE CHALLENGES THAT REMAIN.
YOU KNOW FRANKLY THIS IS WHY SO
MANY LGBT KIDS ARE STILL
COMMITTING SUICIDE.
BECAUSE WE ARE TOLD OVER AND
OVER AGAIN THAT THERE'S
SOMETHING WRONG AND SICK ABOUT
US. AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE A
RIGHT TO EXIST AND THAT WE HAVE
TO CHANGE AND BE NORMAL. AND NOT
BE LGBT YOU WONDER WHY KIDS ARE
KILLING THEMSELVES.
THIS ISTORTURE. IT'S FRAUD AND
I ASK FOR YOUR IDOL.
THANK YOU SENATOR WINNER TWO
WITNESSES TO SPEAK CAREER
HOWEVER YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO
DO IT TWO MINUTES EACH.
FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD IS THE
GIVER MUCH AT THIS THAT TODAY WE
HAVE DOCTOR HALL THE MEN FOR
PRESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. AND
CHRIS BRIGHT A SURVIVOR OF
CONVERSION THERAPY AND ALSO
SENIOR TRAINER AND EDUCATION
MANAGER AT THE TREVOR PROJECT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH GOOD
AFTERNOON SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON.
IS THIS ON ITS OWN.
MY NAME IS DOCTOR DOUG HALDEMAN
AND I'M THE IMMEDIATE PAST
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. CPA
ALONG WITH EVERY MAJOR
HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION IN THE
UNITED STATES BELIEVES THAT
THERE IS NO BASIS FOR ATTEMPTING
TO CHANGE SEXUAL ORIENTATION FOR
SEVERAL REASONS. FIRST SAME SEX
ATTRACTIONS AND BEHAVIORS ARE
NOT A FORM OF MENTAL ILLNESS
REQUIRING TREATMENT. SECOND
THERE IS NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE
SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO CHANGE
SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
FOR THESE METHODS POSE A
SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF HARM TO THE
INDIVIDUAL. AND FOURTH THERE ARE
OTHER THERAPEUTICALLY LEGITIMATE
METHODS FOR REDRESSING THE
CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
QUESTIONING THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
FOR THIRTY FIVE YEARS I HAVE
CONDUCTED RESEARCH WRITTEN
ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AND
MAINTAIN TO CLINICAL PRACTICE IT
INCLUDED HUNDREDS OF BOYS AND
MEN WHO HAD UNDERGONE SOME FORM.
OF. SO CALLED CONVERSION THERAPY
AND WE SAY SO CALLED BECAUSE IT
IS NOT LEGITIMATE THERAPY. FROM
ELECTRIC SHOCK THERAPY TO FORCED
ISOLATION TO CONVENTIONAL TALK
THERAPY NO METHOD IS EFFECTIVE
IT CHANGING ONES SEXUAL
ORIENTATION AND IN FACT USUALLY
EXACERBATES THE PERSON'S ALREADY
SUBSTANTIAL. GUILT SELF LOATHING
AND DEPRESSION.
THE PATIENTS REPORTED THAT THEIR
CONVERSION THERAPISTS PRESSURED
THEM TO CHANGE THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION STATING THAT GAY
PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE INVARIABLY
MISERABLE OR THE MYTH THAT THEY
WERE GAY BECAUSE OF CHILDHOOD
SEXUAL TRAUMA. IF THESE KINDS OF
MESSAGES ARE ABOUT FREE SPEECH
THAT CONVERSION THERAPY SEEK
THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT SUCH
STATEMENTS IN THE SERVICE OF
MANIPULATING CLIENTS IS
UNETHICAL.
OPPONENTS OF THIS BILL WOULD
HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT IT
INFRINGES ON THE FREE EXPRESSION
OF RELIGION. IT DOES NOT.
ANY CHURCH OR PASTORAL COUNSELOR
ENGAGING IN A NON DIRECTIVE
DISCUSSION WITH PERSONS
CONFLICTED ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION IS NOT AFFECTED BY
THIS BILL NOR IS A RELIGIOUS
PROGRAM. WITH THE SPECIFIC GOAL
OF CHANGING SEXUAL ORIENTATION
PROVIDED THAT NO MONEY IS
COLLECTED. THE ONLY ACTIVITIES
AFFECTED ARE THOSE FOR WHICH
MONEY IS EXCHANGED PUTTING AN
END TO THE CONVERSION THERAPY
INDUSTRY. IN CALIFORNIA.
I SING CONVERSION METHODS UNDER
THE CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT
SEARCH TO PUT THE PURVEYORS OF
CONVERSION THERAPIES ON NOTICE
THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER GET AWAY
WITH PROFITING. FROM PREYING ON
VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS AND IT
SERVES ANOTHER EQUALLY IMPORTANT
FUNCTION SENDING A MESSAGE TO L.
G. B. T. AND QUESTION PEOPLE OF
ALL AGES. BUT THERE IS NOTHING
WRONG WITH YOU. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WITNESS IF YOU KEEP IT
UNDER TWO MINUTES SIR PLEASE.
ARCHER JACKSON FELLOW MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS
ON THIS CRITICAL LEGISLATION.
THE TREVOR PROJECT IS PLEASED TO
SPONSOR AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE FOLLOWING CALIFORNIA'S
LEAD IN TWO THOUSAND TWELVE
THERE WERE THIRTEEN STATES. THAT
PASSED LEGISLATION LIMITING THE
PRACTICE ON YOUTH BUT ALL STATES
STILL ALLOW THIS TERRIBLE CRISIS
TO CONTINUE ON THOSE OVER
EIGHTEEN.
AS A LEADING NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION PROVIDING CRISIS
INTERVENTION AND SUICIDE
PREVENTION SERVICES FOR LGBTQ
YOUTH THE TREVOR PROJECT URGES
THE SUPPORT OF LEGISLATION TO
PROTECT THE LGBT COMMUNITY FROM
CONVERSION THERAPY.
CONVERSION THERAPIES FALSELY
CLAIM TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE L. G.
B. T. PEOPLE INTO STRAIGHT AND
SUCH GENDER PEOPLE. EVERY
PROMINENT PROFESSIONAL HELP
ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THE USE OF
CONVERSION THERAPY CALLING THE
PRACTICE HARMFUL AND
INEFFECTIVE.
I AM A SURVIVOR OF THE DANGEROUS
AND DISCREDITED IDEA THAT A
THERAPIST COULD CHANGE MY SEXUAL
ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY.
I WAS FORCED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE
TO GO THROUGH THINGS THAT I'D
RATHER NOT REMEMBER. I WAS MADE
TO PUT MARBLES UNDER MY TONGUE
AND TO DEEPEN MY VOICE.
I SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS
PRACTICING FRAUDULENT EXPENSIVE
TECHNIQUES THAT WERE DESIGNED TO
STIFLE MY CREATIVITY AND
SUPPRESS MY IDENTITY. I WAS
TAUGHT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING
FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG WITH MYSELF
AND THAT THE ONLY WAY FORWARD
WAS TO MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY
TEAR MYSELF APART. I WAS LEFT
BROKEN AND AFRAID.
TO RESPOND TO THOSE PAINFUL
YEARS I NOW LEAD THE TREVOR
PROJECT'S CRITICAL SUICIDE
PREVENTION AND EDUCATION
TRAINING INITIATIVES WE
CONSISTENTLY HEAR FROM YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY BEING
SUBJECTED TO CONVERSION THERAPY.
AND NEW RESEARCH RELEASED BY THE
WILLIAMS INSTITUTE WE NOW
ESTIMATE THAT MORE THAN SEVEN
HUNDRED THOUSAND LGBTQ PEOPLE
WILL HAVE EXPERIENCED THE
HORRORS OF CONVERSION THERAPY.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STOP
THAT NUMBER FROM CONTINUING TO
GROW CONVERSION THERAPISTS ARE
STEALING FROM HARD WORKING
AMERICAN FAMILIES WHO ARE BEING
SWINDLED INTO FALSELY THINKING
THAT THEIR CHILDREN. CAN CHANGE
THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR
GENDER IDENTITY BUT THEY CAN'T
CHANGE WHAT WE NEVER CHOSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT THIS
POINT IN TIME WOULD LIKE TO CALL
THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE
MEASURE TO COME UP LINE UP HERE.
GIVE YOUR NAME AFFILIATION AND
OBVIOUSLY YOUR SUPPORT. FOR THE
MEASURE SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND
START.
HOLD ALTHOUGH CAN WE HAVE THE
MIKE ON PLEASE.
TAKE VERY GOOD THANK YOU
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS JOE MICHAEL
FOR EQUALITY CALIFORNIA ON
BEHALF OF OUR EIGHT HUNDRED
THOUSAND MEMBERS AND OUR PROGRAM
CALIFORNIA FAITH FOR EQUALITY WE
ARE PROUD TO BE A CO SPONSOR OF
THIS BILL AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS WILLIAM
MUSSELBURGH.
AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND I'VE BEEN
ASKED BY BAY MAC THE LOS ANGELES
LGBT CENTER AND EMILY WARD AND
INDIVIDUAL. URGE YOUR SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MY NAME IS KATE EARLY AND I'M
HERE FOR MYSELF AS A PROUD
BISEXUAL WOMAN IN HERE ON MY
HEAD BEHALF OF THE RAINBOW
COMMUNITY CENTER OF CULTURE
COSTA COUNTY. THE DESERT AID
CENTER AND THE ORANGE COUNTY
LGBT CENTER I URGE YOU TO
PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE
MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY AND VOTE
IN SUPPORT OF AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS JASON CHAN ON BEHALF
OF DAIRY SOON ACTIVISTS WE URGE
THAT YOU VOTE. IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
LOUISE LOPEZ IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
ALANNA UBACH RILEY IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU MA'AM.
JULIE KLEIN BOX PLAN FOR FILLING
ALL DAMS IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
LAUREN ANALYSIS IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
YOUR DRY UP BOARD OF THE
SACRAMENTO LGBT COMMUNITY CENTER
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
PULLING MICHON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD IN THE
WEST HOLLYWOOD CITY COUNCIL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
REVEREND DR PAMELA ANDERSON
MINISTER WITH PRESBYTERIAN
CHURCH USA IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL THANK YOU AND SUPPORT FROM
OUR FAMILY COALITION.
MUCH APPRECIATED.
JIM WINBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
A CALIFORNIA PUBLIC INTEREST
GROUP FOUNDED BY MEMBERS OF THE
RELIGIOUS SOCIETY OF FRIENDS AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
AMANDA LEVY ON BEHALF OF THE
FOUR THOUSAND PLUS MEMBERS OF
THE CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
MARY THERE WITH THE COUNTY BE
REAL HEALTH DIRECTORS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU.
REBECCA GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER ON IN OUR TEN
THOUSAND MEMBERS AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THINKING.
ONE REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA
DIVISION AMERICAN ACADEMY OF
PEDIATRICS AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU.
YEAH TREES BURNS CALIFORNIA
BOARD OF PSYCHOLOGY IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ERICA IT'S MY PRNOUNS ARE THEY
THEM AS THE FIRST OPENLY POLY
GENDER NON BINARY AND PANSEXUAL
CANDIDATE IN HISTORY NIGHT
STATES FOR DAVID CITY COUNCIL I
OFFER MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR
THESE EFFORTS THANK YOU SO MUCH
THANK YOU.
HELLO I'M NEARLY A CLEAN YOUR
PRIOR FROM DAVIS CALIFORNIA
RECENT UC DAVIS GRADUATE AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
I AM MY NAME IN THE VAN AND I'M
FROM DAVIS AND CALIFORNIAN IN
HERE FOR ME OR. THANK YOU.
THANKS MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
MAKING ALL RIGHT ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU.
ANNA JOHNSON NATIONAL CENTER FOR
YOUTH LAW IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS TRISTEN
BROWN WITH THE CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION OF TEACHERS PROUD TO
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ALLENTOWN PA FROM SAN JOSE
CALIFORNIA I'M HERE TO SUPPORT
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
JASMINE AILMENTS AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
NEW JERSEY'S OWN LOS ANGELES
CALIFORNIA INSULT STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON CITY REPAIRS FROM
SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS VICTOR TO GO OUT FROM
CONCORD AND AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. NAME IS CAITLYN AND
SOME FROM SACRAMENTO AND I AM IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
ANDY TAYLOR FROM THE CALIFORNIA
LGBT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
NETWORK REPRESENTING OVER SIXTY
L. G. B. T. CENTERS ACROSS THE
STATE IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
PRINCESS ALERT ON BEHALF OF THE
LGBT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
NETWORK CONSTRAINTS SUPPORT.
THANK YOU LEASING LOUIS SOMEHOW
TO CALIFORNIA LATINAS
REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MUCH FOR
EXAMPLE HIS GREAT FOUNDATION
INSTRUCTS APART. THANK YOU.
HUMANITARIAN DAILY ON MY
PERSONAL CAPACITY AS BOARD
PRESIDENT OF QUALITY CALIFORNIA
INSURANCE SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON JOE GREGORY'S ON
BEHALF AL MY PERSONAL CAPACITY
ON BEHALF OF THE CALL TO
CALIFORNIA'S FIGHT BOARD VICE
PRESIDENT STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU.
SURELY DARLING BY A MUSLIM
CHRISTIAN AND I AM IN STRONG
SUPPORT FROM A CO FOUNDER OF THE
MUSLIM AMERICAN SOCIETY SOCIAL
SERVICES FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AMY BROWN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF LONG BEACH AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU.
SAM GARRETT PAY MY PERSONAL
CAPACITY IN SOCKS PARK. THANK
YOU.
ADAM REALLY CONCERNED PRIVATE
CITIZEN FROM SACRAMENTO. IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
LINDA HALL CONCERN PRIVATE
CITIZEN FROM MY PLUS ACCOUNTING
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANYONE ELSE HERE IN
SUPPORT.
ALL RIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO
SPEAKERS PLEASE GERMAN IF YOU
COULD. GIVE THE DYE SUB WILL
CALL YOU BACK IF WE HAVE A
QUESTIONS
.
YEAH.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND TWO MINUTES
EACH ALTHOUGH. I'M GONNA GIVES
ONE OF THE FIRST OF YOUTH THIRTY
EXTRA SECONDS TO EQUALIZE THE
EXTRA THIRTY SECONDS FROM NOW
THOSE IN SPORTS SO WHICHEVER ONE
OF YOU TALKS LONGER. HAS YOU
KNOW. CAMPAIGN TACTIC.
IT'S ALL YOUR CALL THANK YOU.
ON.
THERE YOU GO YOUR PHONE GOOD
AFTERNOON YOU'RE ON. YOUR OFF
NOW.
IRAN GOOD OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON.
YOU KNOW THE TRAUMA OF THE SERB
EAT BEFORE YOU GO FOR GIVE US
YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION PLEASE
SORRY MY NAME IS ELIZABETH
WARNING I'M CO DIRECTOR OF A
MINISTRY CALLED EQUIPPED TO
LOVE.
THANK YOU.
THE TRAUMA OF THE SEARCH FOR
MEANING AND SELF UNDERSTANDING
AND ONE'S SEXUALITY IS CENTRAL
TO AB TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE.
ONE OF THE CONSISTENT MESSAGES I
HEAR REGARDING THIS BILL IS IT
WILL PREVENT SUICIDE.
I WAS ONE WHO ATTEMPTED SUICIDE
AND YET MY FAITH RESCUED ME.
I CAME OUT AS A LESBIAN IN MY
EARLY TWENTIES.
LATER I GRADUATED FROM A
CHRISTIAN SEMINARY THAT I TENDED
OPENLY LESBIAN I BECAME PART OF
THE GAY AFFIRMING CHURCH
MOVEMENT.
FOR MY LIFE AT THE TIME
LESBIANISM SEEM TO EXPLAIN WHY I
WAS THE WAY I WAS.
BUT MY FAITH JOURNEY LED ME TO
QUESTION MY SEXUALITY AS A
LESBIAN AND ULTIMATELY MY SEXUAL
ATTRACTION FOR MEN FADED.
I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO MY HUSBAND
FOR THIRTEEN YEARS.
I DISCOVERED AN ACCEPTED THAT MY
SEXUALITY IS FLUID DESPITE ONCE
BELIEVING I WAS BORN GAY.
I'M A PASTOR. AND MY MINISTRY
EDUCATES CHURCH LEADERS ABOUT
THE LGBTQ EXPERIENCE CREATING
DIALOGUE AND HOPEFULLY SAVE
SPACES.
TO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY IT'S
ANATHEMA TO SAY ABUSE CAUSES
SEXUAL ORIENTATION. BUT I WAS
MOLESTED AS A CHILD AND SEXUALLY
ABUSED BY MEN AS A YOUNG ADULT.
NINE OF THE SECULAR COUNSELLING
I RECEIVED REMOVED THE TRAUMA OF
THOSE EXPERIENCES.
BY AFFIRMING MY SEXUALITY AS A
LESBIAN. THAT COUNSELING NEVER
DELVED INTO THE SURFACE UNDER
THE SURFACE OF JUDGMENTS AND
AGREEMENTS THAT I'D MADE THAT
EMPOWERED THE COMFORT I FELT IN
THE ARMS OF ANOTHER WOMAN. MY
FAITH DID.
BY BLOCKING ACCESS TO GOODS AND
SERVICES THAT QUESTION SEXUALITY
WOMEN WITH ME TO EXPERIENCES
SUCH AS MINE MIGHT NEVER FIND
RESOLUTION.
SEXUAL FLUIDITY IS COMMON AMONG
WOMEN. WE'VE HEARD FROM MEN
LARGELY ON TESTIMONIES IN THIS
REGARD. THE AP A AGREES.
CALIFORNIA PROTECT A WOMAN'S
RIGHT TO CHOOSE ABORTION YET
WILL THE STATE NOW CONTROL HOW
WOMEN MUST IDENTIFY SEXUALLY.
I'M ASKING FOR FREEDOM TO MAKE
OUR OWN LIFE CHOICES THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON SIR AFTERNOON
ADAM CHAIR ONE IS JIM DOLAN AND
I'M A PASTOR AT CHURCH UNITED
HITS A NONPROFIT IN SENATOR
MORLOCKS DISTRICT.
A YOUNG AGE I WAS ATTRACTED TO
MEN. IN JUNIOR HIGH I THOUGHT I
MIGHT BE GAY.
IN TENTH GRADE I SHARED WITH MY
PARENTS I THOUGHT I WAS GAY. I
DID NOT WANT TO BE GAY.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAW MY
DAD CRY.
HE CRIED BECAUSE FOR THOSE YEARS
I CARRIED THIS SECRETLY ALONE
ALL BY MYSELF.
HIS BROTHER DIED OF AIDS IN THE
NINETEEN EIGHTIES.
AT SIXTEEN I WANTED TO CHANGE
THESE DESIRES OF MY HEART EIGHT.
I ASKED MY PARENTS FOR HELP
AFTER TWO YEARS OF THERAPY IN
FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE I CHOSE TO
COME OUT IN NINETEEN NINETY
SEVEN AT THE AGE TWENTY FOUR.
I MET MY PARTNER OF THREE YEARS
HE WAS HIV AIDS POSITIVE.
AT THE AGE OF TWENTY EIGHT WE
BROKE OFF A RELATIONSHIP I
DESIRE TO CHANGE MY LIFE.
I QUESTIONED MY LIFESTYLE. I
SOUGHT OUT A CALIFORNIA LICENSED
THERAPIST IN PROGRAMS THAT WOULD
HELP ME CHANGE.
MY PREVIOUS THIRTEEN PROGRAMS
HAD LAID A FOUNDATION OF
UNDERSTANDING THE ROOT CAUSES
AND I WISH I HAD MORE TIME TO
TALK ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THE
EUROPEAN PROGRAMS.
GB G. Q. Q. IS QUESTIONING.
PART OF MY STORIES QUESTIONING
HOW COULD CALIFORNIA PASSED A
LAW TO PROHIBIT QUESTIONING.
TO PROHIBIT MY JOURNEY TO
PROHIBIT CHOICE TO PROHIBIT
COUNSELING TO PROHIBIT
LITERATURE.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST LGBTQ
INDIVIDUALS.
WE JUST INVITED A COUPLE GAY A
HOMOSEXUAL COUPLE OVER TO OUR
HOME.
THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE
OUR QUESTION THE LIFE THEY
DESIRE WHY WOULD YOU DENY YOU
MEET THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE OR
QUESTION.
THE LIFE I DESIRED. PLEASE DO
NOT TAKE AWAY PROFESSIONAL HELP
AND PROGRAMS THAT HELP PEOPLE
LIKE ME. UNLIKE US HERE TODAY
YOU'LL HEAR FROM PLEASE DO NOT
PASS A LAW THAT WOULD HARM THE
SUPER MINORITY.
MY FAMILY RIGHT HERE THIS BILL
SAYS THEIR FRAUD. MY WIFE MY
FOUR YEAR OLD DAUGHTER MY ONE
YEAR OLD SON AND THE BABY INSIDE
MY WIFE'S WOMB AT THIRTY SHE'S
THIRTY TWO WEEKS SHE CAN'T
TRAVEL BECAUSE SHE'S HIGH RISK.
OUR FRAUD ACCORDING TO THIS
BILL.
I COULDN'T WRITE THIS TO MY
STORY I COULDN'T SELL MY BOOK
I'M WRITING IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT I WAT TO HELP AND BE ABLE
TO HELP OTHERS WHO DESIRE
CHANGE.
INDIVIDUAL SHARING TODAY ARE
ONLY FEW THAT MANY WAITING TO
SHARE THEIR STORIES THAT CHANGE.
AND SENATORS I'D TAKE YOU. HEAR
THEIR STORIES OF BROKENNESS AT
THE SEXUAL ATROCITIES DRAWN TO
THESE PEOPLE. IT BREAKS MY HEART
INDEED CHOSEN SAID WE WANT TO
CHANGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT CONTRARY TO THE
REQUEST WE'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR
A LOT OF STORIES BUT WHAT WE ARE
WILLING TO DO IS THOSE OF YOU
WHO WISH TO STAND UP. AND
IDENTIFY YOURSELF BY NAME AND
YOUR AFFILIATION AND THEN YOUR
SUPPORT AND IF YOU'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT FEEL FREE TO SAY IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
THIS IS AN OPPOSITION THAT I
MENTIONED THAT. I'M SORRY IN
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN
OPPOSITION.
AND YOU FEEL FREE TO SAY STRONG
OPPOSITION.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT JUST YOUR
NAME.
YOUR NAME AFFILIATION.
AND.
YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
BUT I'M SURE.
OKAY.
ALRIGHT OKAY IF WE COULD TRY TO
I REALIZE WE HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IS BEING
VERY VERY.
RESPECTFUL AND IT'S VERY MUCH
APPRECIATED WE WANT TO HEAR IT
AND I AND GET YOUR.
POSITION FROM EVERYONE HERE BUT
IF IT'S QUIETER IT WILL BE ABLE
TO MOVE IT ALONG.
MORE EFFECTIVELY SO WITH THAT
GOOD AFTERNOON SIR YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION PLEASE MY NAME IS
LOUISE SABIR RUIZ I'M IN ORLANDO
POLL SURVIVOR I AM AN ARMY
VETERAN AND H. I. V. POSITIVE
SURVIVOR. AND I TOO HAVE CHANGED
I OPPOSE A B. TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU SIR.
HELLO MY NAME'S ANGEL COLOGNE
I'M A POLL SURVIVOR SHOT SIX
TIMES IT'S A MIRACLE THAT I'M
WALKING. FOUND FREEDOM IN BEING
ABLE TO CHOOSE MY LIFESTYLE HIGH
OPPOSE AB TWO FOR NINETY FIVE
FOR THE. THANK YOU SIR NEXT
WITNESS UP MY NAME IS JEFFREY
MCCALL I LET THE TRANS GENDER
LIFESTYLE LIVING THAT FOR YEARS
AND I OPPOSE A B. TWO NINE FOUR
THREE THANK YOU SIR.
EMBRY STEVENS AND I WAS BRUTALLY
SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND.
WENT TO SAME SEX ATTRACTION
RELATIONSHIP IN THE COUNSELLING
I RECEIVED BECAUSE IT WAS SO
HEALING FOR ME I OPPOSE AB
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
I CAN WILLIAMS READING
CALIFORNIA.
I CAME OUT OF HOMOSEXUALITY
HAVE BEEN MARRIED TO MY WIFE
TWELVE YEARS HAVE FOUR KIDS
BECAUSE THE DEPTH AND READING
YOUR POSTS. AND YOUR OPPONENT.
THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS DAVID KWONG AND I'M
FROM A SENATOR CHOLESKY A CUT
BECAUSE KAY SETS THAT DISTRICT
AND.
YEAH I I'M I'M A FORMER BUT I'M
NOT A PASTOR AND I'M ASKING YOU
TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL THANK
YOU SIR.
HI CHRIS OLSON FOREMAN LESBIAN
BEHAVIOR. OF PRESIDENT OF COMING
OUT AGAIN MINISTRIES AND I ALSO
REPRESENT TWELVE HUNDRED CALORIE
CHAPELS AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
AB TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
NEXT WITNESS.
MY NAME IS JANET MAYOR I'M A
CONCERNED CITIZEN AND NICE ASK
YOU TO OPPOSE THANK YOU.
DOREEN HAGUE CONCERNED CITIZEN
PLEASE I OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
UP.
THIS IS THE FIRST PLANNING WE
REPRESENT A MILLIONS OF HOME
CHURCHES ACROSS THE NATION I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE. THANK YOU.
MATTHEW ESCALANTE PRIVATE
CITIZEN AND I ASK YOU TO OPPOSE
TWO NINE FOUR THREE THANK YOU
SIR.
IF THEY KNOW WHAT SCRIPTURE
PRIVATE CITIZEN SACRAMENTO
NUMBER IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
I. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S WILLIAM
ROURKE I LIVE HERE IN SACRAMENTO
ON THE STREET MINISTER AND I'M
IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO TWENTY
NINE FORTY THREE. THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
HELLO MY NAME IS MARY DURING I'M
FROM CAMPBELL CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY. OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
I'M THERESA MANSFIELD FROM SAN
JOSE CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL STRONGLY AND I'M ALSO
WITH CONCERNED WOMEN FOR
AMERICA.
THANK YOU.
KAREN ENGLAND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
CAPITOL RESOURCE INSTITUTE WE
STRONGLY OPPOSE WE SUPPORT FREE
SPEECH THANK YOU.
PLEASED WITH THE PUBLIC POLICY
AND WE HAVE POLLS. THANK YOU.
MISTER JENKINS COVERAGE OF THE
CHINO HILLS TEN THOUSAND MEMBERS
OF COVER CHAPEL OPPOSE. THANK
YOU SIR.
KIMBERLY'S AMBER SAN DIEGO
COUNTY A FORMER HOMOSEXUAL AND
STRONGLY OPPOSE THINKING IN.
I'M WALTER HER ROSHEK HELP
PRIVATE CITIZEN FROM NORCO
CALIFORNIA. AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION THANK
YOU.
HI AM EVERY BIRD FORM A
HOMOSEXUAL AND CEO OF UPROOTED
HARKING COULD I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MEDICARE A CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
ATTORNEY FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
BANKING.
JOHN ROBINSON I'M A PASTOR FROM
A NONDENOMINATIONAL HOME BIBLE
STUDY IN PITTSBURG CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE ASSEMBLY
BILL TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JEFF MCENTEE AND FROM
SAN DIEGO I'M REPRESENTING
MYSELF I HAVE ONE WORD
VOLUNTARY.
I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE AB
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU.
I'M LINDA TURNER AND I'M FAIR
OAKS CALIFORNIA. ON THE
INDIVIDUAL AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
AB TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS LINDA MEADOWS AND I'M
FROM LOS ANGELES I'M AN
INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL MY UNCLE DIED
BEHIND YOU SOME SEXUAL YOU TRIED
TO GET OUT OF IT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND HE DIDN'T HAVE THESE
COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THANK YOU FOR YOUR
STATEMENT SIR.
CALVIN MEDALS TORRANCE
CALIFORNIA. I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
SHELLY HILL A LOS ANGELES
CALIFORNIA REPRESENT THE DREAM
CENTER CHURCH UNITED AND JESUS
CHRIST THE KING OF KINGS AND
LORD OF LORDS. THANK YOU ALL.
AND I OPPOSE THIS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I HAD A FEELING YOU
WERE. WORKING.
I NEED TO LET DANIEL I'VE US
BROKEN ONCE NOW I AM SAVED I
APPLE C. B. TWO NINE FOUR THREE
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
HERNANDO OUT TO SURVEY THE AREA
HOLD THE GROUP BY UPHOLSTERY AND
I'M FORTY THREE. THANK YOU.
I'M A NEW CALL MY MY PASTOR I
HAVE A SON WHO IS TWENTY YEARS
OLD AT KATE I STRONGLY OPPOSED
THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS SHE HOME PHONE. I
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO SPEW THANK
YOU.
ANNE HARRINGTON WAS SAN DIEGO
STRATEGIC FORM WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL.
THE ROYALS CONSTITUTIONAL
ATTORNEY WITH THE NATIONAL
CENTER FOR LAW AND POLICY AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
DAVID REES WITH A LIVING MATTER
LETTERED MINISTRIES I CAME OUT
OF HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE BY MESS
MOLESTATION I RECEIVED
COUNSELING TO CHANGE THANK YOU
SIR HOLIDAY AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
WE AND RESET MY HUSBAND OUR
MARRIAGE WAS DEPENDENT ON
COUNSELING I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. MAKE YOU.
CHAUDHRY LAVERNE CALIFORNIA THIS
ISN'T ABOUT A BILL THIS IS ABOUT
CONTROL I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MARIA GOMES THAT I SEE THAT YOU
THAT YOU USE TO COMPLETE THEM
INTO COMPRISED A BEAT. LEG AT
THIS SCHOOL TOOK ACCESS THANK
YOU.
LOUISE COMMENTS FROM ONTARIO
NAPLES THANK YOU.
ERICA WILCOX FROM STOCKTON
CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THIS BILL
AND I ALSO OPPOSE ANY COERCIVE
THERAPIES THANK YOU.
JEANNE KONG I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
JANE KONG PLEASE MAINTAIN
FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND FREEDOM
OF SPEECH I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE
THANK YOU.
ALISON MARTINEZ FROM FRESNO
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU MA'AM.
SANDY TROJAN FROM FRESNO I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE. THANK YOU. CECIL
JACLYN I'VE ADDED I HAVE NOT
IDENTIFIED AS HOMOSEXUAL FOR
TWENTY THREE YEARS.
I HAVE A CHILD.
IN YOUR POST IS ABOUT OPPOSE
THIS BILL I WAS RAPED LEGALLY AS
A CHILD. I THINK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WITNESS PLEASE. HI I'M FROM
CHULA VISTA I'M AN ARMY VETERAN
OPPOSES VEILED BECAUSE I WAS
MOLESTED AND ALMOST COMMITTED
SUICIDE AND GOD IS THE ONE THAT
RESCUED ME WOULD YOU JUST TELL
US YOUR NAME AS WELL.
WHEN DULL THANK YOU MA'AM
APPRECIATED.
JOSEPH DOLL I WAS ALSO SEXUALLY
MOLESTED I AM A MESSIANIC
TEACHER AND I REPRESENT THE
MESSIANIC JEWISH ALLIANCE OF
AMERICA. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS HILARY IRAQ AND I'M
FROM CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU
MA'AM.
MY NAME IS AMY ON IT AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
WHEN GIBSON PASADENA I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THE BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
APRIL LAW CART PASADENA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
YES SIR DIRECTOR OF A LIVING
LETTER MINISTRIES AND PASTOR
TWENTY TWO YEARS FREE AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
JACOB CLASSES.
FORMER SELF I GAY IDENTIFYING.
TEENAGER AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
CARLY FITCH FROM REDLANDS
CALIFORNIA FORMER LESBIAN AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
HI LAUREN HART FORMER LESBIAN
FROM REDDING CALIFORNIA AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
RALPH FORMER HOMOSEXUAL TWELVE
YEARS MARRIED WITH TWO CHILDREN
PRESIDENT OF VOICE OF THE
VOICELESS AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
CHRISTOPHER SAM'S FROM
CALIFORNIA FROM CHANGE THROUGH
COUNSELING AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
MY MANAGER FRANK ON A FORMER
HOMOSEXUAL AND ON BEHALF OF
MYSELF AND MY ONE THOUSAND
MEMBER CHURCH THAT I'M A PASTOR
OF NOW I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
YES CHRISTINE JACKMAN CONCERNED
CITIZEN WIFE OF SEA SALT.
I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO AB
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU MA'AM.
MIKEY D. AS FORMER LESBIAN
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS ERIC JOHNSON SENIOR
PASTOR BETHEL CHURCH IN REDDING
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
CANDACE JOHNSON FOR READING
CALIFORNIA PASTOR BETHEL AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU MA'AM.
COSIC DIRECTOR OF MORAL
REVOLUTION IN REDDING CALIFORNIA
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
I'M LAURIN BALLOTS AND ALSO A
PASTOR AT BETHEL CHURCH IN
REDDING CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
I'M JASON FELTON FROM A READING
CALIFORNIA KENEMA PASTORAL
COUNSELOR AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS CHARMING COULTER
CONCERNED CITIZENS CONCERNED A
MOTHER AND A CONCERN TO
GRANDMOTHER LIKE STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
CULTURE CONCERNED CITIZEN AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
BETH'S ONE I OPPOSE THIS BILL
AND BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO
CHOOSE THANK YOU.
LIZ FARSEER FORMER LESBIAN AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS THERE IS SOME ROOM
FROM REDDING CALIFORNIA AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. COMMAND.
MY NAME IS JIM SUMNER AND FROM
READING CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU SIR.
WHEN IS CHRIS AND MEYER
CALIFORNIA RESIDENT I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
I MEAN IT'S A SORROW FROM
REDDING CALIFORNIA STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
NATALIE MER JESUS CULTURE
SACRAMENTO FOLSOM CALIFORNIA I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
CHRISTINA MCCAULEY REPRESENTING
THE LANGLEY AND MACAULAY FAMILY
AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
CHAD MCCAULEY REDDING CALIFORNIA
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
ROB WATKINS NATIVE CALIFORNIAN.
I LIVE IN LAKE FOREST
CALIFORNIA NOW I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LINDA SANCHEZ AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
STACEY DAVENPORT BY CELIA
CALIFORNIA I'M BEGGING YOU TO
PLEASE VOTE NO ON AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE A PARTNER THERE WHO'S.
KATHERINE YOU IT STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU.
MARSHALL FROM SAN JOSE AND I
REPRESENT C. WA OF CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
DOCUMENT.
CAN YOU HEAR IT FROM THE BAY
AREA AND STRONGLY OPPOSE SASTRI
NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
PASTOR JOHN MITCHELL CHRISTIAN
FACE AN ORDEAL CALIFORNIA FORMER
BISEXUAL AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU SIR.
SHERRY RICH CLOVIS CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
LESLIE MORRIS INNER HEALING
MINISTER STRONGLY OPPOSED THANK
YOU.
JUL MARRIAGE FAMILY THERAPIST I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
I'M CLAUDIO GRECO FROM READING
CALIFORNIAN I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. MAKING HIM.
I'M HIM UTTER FROM MONTGOMERY
CREEK CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MICHELLE ESPINOZA CONCERN
PATRIOT AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
OPPOSE THIS BILL BECAME.
I'M NATALIE ESPINOSA AND FROM
SACRAMENTO AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
DALLAS HAS A FROM SACRAMENTO AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
WELL AS SPINNERS THAT FROM
SACRAMENTO AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
JOSHUA BLEVINS LEAD PASTOR
CROSSROADS CHURCH ON BEHALF OF
OUR CONGREGATION WE STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
AND DAVID AXE ASSOCIATE PASTOR
YOUNG ADULTS MINISTER AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
BRAD OR MONDAY AT THE MINISTRY
OF PASTOR AT TWELVE THOUSAND
MEMBER HARVEST CHRISTIAN
FELLOWSHIP IN RIVERSIDE IN
IRVINE. STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
ROBIN NAP FROM UP UPLAND
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
LISA POSSIBLE BUT FAITH AND
PUBLIC POLICY AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
JILL PICKET COVER CHAPEL CHINO
HILLS JUNIOR HIGH MINISTRY I
STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
JEREC MEANS. COVER CHAPEL CHINO
HILLS HIGH SCHOOL PASTOR I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
DANA JUDSON CARMICHAEL
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THE COMMUTE.
XANDER WHITE HEAD PLASTER COUNTY
STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
ARIEL STORM A CHRISTIAN PRAYER
MINISTER AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU.
FASTER CURING RIVERSIDE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN ROSEVILLE
CALIFORNIA ALSO CEO OF
EVERLASTING MINISTRIES AND
MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES
NATIONAL PRO COUNCIL STRONGLY
OPPOSE THANK YOU.
REVEREND DAN PROUD TO NEVADA
COUNTY CEO OF SIERRA MINISTRIES
INTERNATIONAL AND WE OPPOSE
THANK YOU SIR.
FERRIS GRASS VALLEY CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
RENEE DJ BAKER FORMER LESBIAN.
FROM THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.
STRONGLY OPPOSE BANKING.
AND JABBER LANDIS SIMON
LEADERSHIP AT COMMUNITY OF GRACE
AND HAYWARD AND WE STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS THANK YOU.
BRENDA CON EL LEADERSHIP OF
pAND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
MAKE YOU.
CHRIS SISTER REELING FROM SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA BOB WHITE
HOUSE WHOSE DISTRICT.
AT YOUR SERVICE STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO THE BILL THANK YOU.
DR LORI HAYNES PSYCHOLOGIST IN
TUSTIN CALIFORNIA REPRESENTING
THE NATIONAL TASK FORCE FOR
THERAPY QUALITY. AND THE
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
PEDIATRICIANS WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS MONIQUE BELTON I'M A
FORMER LIES BEHIND I FOUND TRUTH
AND SUPPORT IN TRUE LOVE PLEASE
DON'T PUT ME BACK IN THE CLOSET
I OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
I'M SURE I'M A CRAVE A PART OF
THE FUTURE GENERATION AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
I AM BRANDON MCCRAE FROM
PORTABLE CALIFORNIA JESUS LOVES
YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE.
STRONGLY OPPOSE THE KILL THANK
YOU.
TIME CALVIN CHAIN FROM CHINO
HILLS I'M A FATHER AND HUSBAND
CONCERNED CITIZEN AND A VOTER I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU SIR.
PHILIP S. COMMUTE WILLIAM JOSEPH
UNIVERSITY IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU.
KATIE CAMERA PRIVATE CITIZEN IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
THIS IS FROM THEIR PRIVATE
CITIZEN.
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
ANGEL KERICHO PRIVATE CITIZEN
OPPOSED THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DAVID GOOD TO RUFFLE FOLSOM
CALIFORNIA I A STRONGLY OPPOSE
THE BILL THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS DOUBLE OR A WALKER.
MY DAUGHTER WAS MOLESTED IN I
STRONGLY OPPOSE A B. TWO NINE
FOUR THREE THANKING HIM.
MY NAME IS SHERYL SAVOY AND I
WAS MOLESTED AS YOUNG AS A CHILD
AS A YOUNG GIRL. JESUS SAVED ME
HE IS THE LORD OF LORDS AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
SHANNON HOLBROOKE FROM CLYDE
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS
YOU.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
TRAINING COOKMAN AND I'M FROM
THE BAY AREA AND I OPPOSE AB
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU.
PARTY CONRAD MODESTO CALIFORNIA
MY CHILDREN TELL ME THEIR GAY
AND I WANT HELP AVAILABLE TO
THEM I OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
HELLO HELLO ROBERT RODRIGUEZ.
FROM RIVERSIDE HARVEST
CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP AM A
VIETNAM VETERAN I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU SIR.
IMMERSION FROM CORONA CALIFORNIA
COVERAGE CHAPEL. CORONA
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
DANIEL WOULD CORONA CALIFORNIA
CALVARY CHAPEL I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S AMY AGAIN I'M FROM THE
EAST BAY DUBLIN CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
I'M CABLE BARGAIN I'M FROM OUT
IN CALIFORNIA FORMER HOMOSEXUAL
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
S. C. ROACHE FROM FAIRFIELD AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE BILL.
MIXING CAMPBELL SACRAMENTO
CALIFORNIA OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
RENEE MARTIN FROM YUBA CITY
CALIFORNIA DIRECTOR OF HEARTS OF
HOPE OUR MEMBER MINISTRY OF THE
RESTORED HELP NETWORK AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL MAKE ME.
DAVID COLLINS FROM WAKE AMERICA
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTING OVER
FIFTEEN THOUSAND PEOPLE IN
CHURCHES ALL ACROSS THE STATE WE
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
CRYSTAL LOCK FROM READING
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
LINDA PHILLIPS FROM STOCKTON
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
WHEN THE SECULAR AND THE MOM
FROM ROCKLIN CALIFORNIA C. BY
GRACE AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS ANDY MCINTOSH I'M
WITH REVIVAL CHRISTIAN
FELLOWSHIP IN MENIFEE AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THINKING IN.
HI MY NAME IS MICHELLE BUT SARAH
AND I'M WITH REVIVAL CHRISTIAN
FELLOWSHIP CHURCH MENIFEE
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JANE MOORE HOUSE I'M
FROM CASTRO VALLEY CALIFORNIA I
HAVE EIGHT GRANDCHILDREN AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M PETER SUE
WAY.
GLAD TO BE HERE I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL WAS A PRISONER
OF MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
I'M JAN SOUFFLE I'M A
CONSTITUENT OF EVAN LOW. AND I
MINISTER IN THE HEALING ROOMS
AND I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL THEY COMMIT.
MY NAME IS SARAH TRAVIS FROM
FAIR OAKS CALIFORNIA ON BEHALF
OF MY THREE CHILDREN ARE BROUGHT
TODAY MY HUSBAND AND MY PARENTS
LIVE ASSIST YOU COUNTY. WE
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THINK
MAN.
I AM KELLY WEB SERVER CONCERN
PRIVATE CITIZEN FROM CARMICHAEL
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL THINKING.
I'M ABIGAIL TRAVIS MEMBER OF
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH TRAVIS FROM
FOLKS CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH RICHIE AND
I'M FROM BRENTWOOD CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ROCHELLE KHANOM A
LICENSED MINISTER AND I AM A
MEMBER OF THE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH
IN SAN LEANDRO TWO THOUSAND
MEMBERS I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF
THE PART OF DOUGLASS FOUNDATION.
AND A MEMBER OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS
COMMUNITY FOUNDATION IN
CALIFORNIA WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
THE BILL THAT DISCRIMINATES
AGAINST PROTECTED MINORITY.
THANK YOU.
JOE PETERSON A FELLOWSHIP.
CHURCH SAN LEANDRO CALIFORNIA I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
PAUL TAYLOR UNITED STATES SENATE
CANDIDATE I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
POURING WALL A WALL I'M FROM SAN
FRANCISCO I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
BY MITCHELL LONG I'M FROM SAN
FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS CRYSTAL LONG AND I'M
FROM SAN FRANCISCO AND I POSED
TO SPILL. THANK YOU.
YOU CAN LIVE TO BACK UP AGAIN WE
DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE TOO
MANY STILL WANT HIM ON FROM THIS
CITY CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS SHANNON I'M FROM SAN
FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
THE NAME IS FRED MACMILLAN ON
AMERICAN CITIZENS WERE
THEORETICALLY GOVERNMENTS ARE
SUPPOSED TO BOW TO THE WILL OF
THE PEOPLE. THE OPPOSITION OR
TEN OF THOSE STILL AND I HOPE
THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS SOME
RESPECT FOR THE. FOR THE YEAR
OPPOSED TO THE BILL DACIANS OF
AMERICA THANK YOU SIR CORKING
OPPOSED TO IT THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LUCY AMERICA.
I AM FROM SYNTHESIZED SIME
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE. OF.
AGAINST THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
I AM DANIELLA JAVA CITRUS
HEIGHTS I WAS MOLESTED AND RAPED
AND I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS
BOOK MILLER. THANK YOU.
KIMBERLY DAGGER FROM SACRAMENTO
I OPPOSE THIS BILL AS AMENDED.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BOB AND DRY THE
SENIOR PASTOR OF POWERHOUSE
FOURSQUARE CHURCH IN SAN PEDRO
THE PORT OF LOS ANGELES. AND I
THINK YOU WERE HERE IN OUR VOICE
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU
SIR.
JENNIFER FLINDERS A CONCERNED
CITIZEN FROM PLASTER COUNTY
REPRESENTING MYSELF MY HUSBAND.
MYSELF MY SIX CHILDREN FIVE IN
LAWS AND FOURTEEN GRANDCHILDREN
IN OPPOSITION YOU'RE LUCKY LADY
FOURTEEN GRANDCHILDREN WILL.
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN OPPOSITION.
IS EVERYTHING BUT WE DO HAVE
SOME MORE OKAY LET'S SEE IF WE
COULD BRING THOSE FOLKS FORWARD
PLEASE.
WITH FOURTEEN GRANDCHILDREN
REMEMBER ALL THEIR NAMES I
ALWAYS WONDER ABOUT THAT.
AND BIRTHDAYS HE CAN'T FORGET
THE BIRTHDAYS.
YEAH.
A. FEW FOLKS IN OPPOSITION HERE.
AND WHAT DID YOU GO AHEAD AND
STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE GIVE
US YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION
PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS NATHAN DAVIS I'M FROM
ELK GROVE I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THE NEXT WITNESS
PLEASE.
RHONDA ROBERTS IN ORANGE COUNTY
CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THE BILL
THANK YOU.
PAM SPINNERS THE REDDING
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE
BILL THANK YOU.
MELISSA GREEN FOR RESCUE
CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THE BILL
THANK YOU.
THE GREEN I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK THANK YOU. ASHLEY GREENE I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU. DOES
THE COURT WITH GOD HOPE FROM
OAKHURST CALIFORNIA I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN EXTRA
FORTY SECONDS PLEASE NOW THANK
YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR
VEHEMENTLY. OPPOSE THIS BILL
TRANSFORMATION IS POSSIBLE
SURVEY THINK TANK IS CHRIST
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
WITNESS.
CARMEN RECORD FROM ALL COURSE
CALLED YEAH I AM AN IMMIGRANT
AND I'LL POST IS BUILT THANK YOU
MA'AM.
MY NAME IS MARCIN M.
CONSTANTINE.
I OPPOSE OPPOSE THE.
THE BETTER THANK YOU SIR. WELL
DONE WAS DARK. BY CONSERVATIVES.
MY NAME IS BIANCA SEE YOUR NAME
FROM SACRAMENTO AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS THAT AS I WAS
HARMLESS I AM FROM STOCKTON I
REPRESENT YES IN A MAN AND CARES
BIBLE COLLEGE OF NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA THOMPSON
BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN MINISTER
FOUNDER OF HEART TO HEART
INTERNATIONAL MINISTRIES AND A
MEMBER OF CONCERNED WOMEN FOR
AMERICA OPPOSE. THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS GINA FLOREA AND I'M
FROM ORANGE COUNTY CALIFORNIA
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL BREAK
YOU.
ENGINE CAPACITY TO FROM GRANITE
BAY OPPOSES BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS TO BE HOME TO OUR
FORUMS SACRAMENTAL I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU
MA'AM.
MY NAME IS ESTHER'S ARE ABOVE
FROM LATER OPEN I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BEST MORALES AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS ANNE I THOUGHT THOSE
ON MY FAMILY ESCAPE COM USER
MANIA IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES TO
HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION STILL I
PASSIONATELY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS ADAM BARTONELLA%
STUDENT SACRAMENTO STATE I
REPRESENT OTHER INDIVIDUALS FROM
RIVERSIDE POSTERN SEGMENT
ACCOUNTING AND WE ASK THAT YOU
PUT A SPELL. THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS TYLER SHREVE SMITH
FORMER BISEXUAL AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MANY SCRAMBLE AROUND AND A LIVE
IN SACRAMENTO BUT I CAME FROM
COMMENTS CONCERNING STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BECKY BOSANSKI FROM
MODESTO CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU VOTE NO. THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS MARIE WERE A
PERSON AND I'M THE COORDINATOR
FOR STANISLAS CONCERNED CITIZENS
AND I ASK THAT YOU STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL AS DOES MY
GROUP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HI MY NAME IS MICHELLE HILLERMAN
I'M FROM DINARIC CALIFORNIA AND
I'VE UPSET FIRSTLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ADELINE PULASKI FOR
MANTECA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS JEANIE PAIN AND
I'M FROM ANTI GUN I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL AS WELL. NOW.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS FAITH I AM FROM MAINE
TO CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU MY
NAME IS BRIAN I STRONGLY OPPOSE
FROM MODESTO AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
I NAME IS DENISE MIRAMAR I AM
FROM MODESTO AND I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF PEOPLE LIKE MY
DAUGHTER HARD TRYING TO PULL OUT
AND SEEK COUNSELING. THAT WANT
HONEST ANSWERS AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S RYAN BEEN IMPLEMENTING
A CALIFORNIAN I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS KRISTIN PAYNE AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS KIMBERLY GARVEY FROM
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS ESTHER WEIGHING AND
MAYBE LOS ANGELES AS STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS CHERYL I'M IN FROM
ARCADIA CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THE
TOOL AB TOOL AND DIE FOR
SURGERY.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
RANKING EASEL ROSA CALIFORNIA
FORMER GAME MARRIED TO MY WIFE
TWENTY ONE YEARS AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MERI LEE'S SONDERGAARD
SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA. I BELONG
TO A GLOW INTERNATIONAL.
AND CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA
WHO ALL OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS THOMAS METHOD FROM
SACRAMENTO AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS CHAN JACKIE CHAN ON
THE US CITIZENS ARE FRIENDS
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA OPPOSED TO
SPILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
IS JOAN CHAN I'M FROM SAN JOSE
ARMISEN I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS RACHEL YOUNG UP FROM
SAN JOSE I STRUGGLE WITH PORN
ADDICTION FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS.
AND TO FAITH BASED GROUPS IT
HELPED ME GET FREE HAVE BEEN
SOBER FOR TWENTY. NINE YEARS
PLUS. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS THOMAS BAUR TUNICA
FROM GARDEN VALLEY FOR
CALIFORNIA. FORMER BISEXUAL AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS RUSSELL WILLING HIM
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FRESNO NEW
CREATION MINISTRIES. FOR FULL
TIME WITH PEOPLE DEALING WITH
UNWANTED SAME SEX ATTRACTIONS
FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL NANCY FRESNO
CALIFORNIA I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE
BOARD FOR FRESNO NEW CREATIONS
MINISTRIES AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
GEORGE GEORGE MY FRAZZLED
CALIFORNIA REPRESENT THE PASTORS
THERE WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BRIDGET POTTER AND
FROM NEVADA COUNTY AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS ROBIN TROLLS WILL AND
THE TAIWANESE AMERICAN AND I
MOVED FROM FREMONT CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS SARAH WHEN I AM FROM
AND KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT A
COUNTY I'M A CONCERNED VERY
CONCERNED CITIZEN AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LORRAINE VARA I'M
FROM CHINO HILLS AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BRIAN LARA I'M A
BUSINESSMAN FROM CHINO HILLS I
OPPOSE THIS BILL AND I BELIEVE
WE SHOULD BE OFFERING PEOPLE
HOPE NOT LIMITATIONS THANK YOU
SIR.
MY NAME IS LOOK YOUNG. I COME
FROM CHILL HERE CUT FORMULA.
BASED ON OPPOSE THE AB TWENTY
NINE TWENTY THREE. THANK YOU
SIR.
MY NAME IS JOHN SHU I LOVE YOUR
GP TO KILL PEOPLE BUT I DON'T
BELIEVE LIMIT THEIR FREEDOM FOR.
GETTING HELP HIS LOVING DEATH
I'LL POST IS BUILT THANK YOU
SIR.
I AM AMY HOW YOU FROM CONVENE A
CALIFORNIAN I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
I AM BENJAMIN HARRISON CONVENING
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ABOARD A AND I'M FROM
CAMINO CALIFORNIA AND STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
GRAY DAVIS BECAUSE HIS ATTORNEY
AND PRESIDENT THE PACIFIC
JUSTICE INSTITUTE DEFENDING
FREEDOM LIBERTY ACROSS THE STATE
AND I STRONGLY STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
PLEASE LET'S. NO APPLAUSE WHO'S
NO NOTHING WHICH IS THAT THESE
PEOPLE ARE. HAVE THEIR
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR
THOUGHTS THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ARLENE CARLA AND THE
STATE PRESIDENT OF EAGLE FORUM
OF CALIFORNIA.
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU MA'AM.
I AM GARRETT BETTING A MINISTER.
AND REPRESENTING GRACE VALLEY
CHRISTIAN CENTER IN DAVIS AND WE
AS A CHURCH STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS FUN AND. I LIVE IN
FONTANA CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS DRAKE MAC AND
I'M THE LEAD YOUTH PASTOR AT
SILO TURMAN ACKLAND RANCHO
CUCAMONGA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
HI MY NAME IS SHELLY ANDERSON
AND ASKING FOR MY FACE AND
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
I AM ANNA ANDERSON AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
BUT IT WAS PRETTY HILL RAT
PASTOR SHILOH TABERNACLE CHURCH
IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA I CONSIDER
THIS BILL COMMUNISTIC AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE IT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
YOU CAN LOWER THAT DOWN. THERE
YOU GO.
MY NAME IS. KAREN.
THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS ALEXIS AND ME
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO.
THANK YOU.
HI THERE MY NAME IS FASTER RATE
HILLARY FROM SHILOH TABERNACLE
CHURCH TRAGICAL MANGA I HUMBLY
ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THIS BILL
PLEASE THANK YOU.
ALAN HERE'S KATHY LEE MISSIONARY
WITH YOUTH WITH A MISSION FROM
CHICO CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
LAURIE HARRIS CHICO CALIFORNIA
MOTHER OF SEVEN OUT STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
MICHELLE JORDAN CALIFORNIANS FOR
FREE SPEECH I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THE BILL. THANK YOU.
NOW MY NAME IS A REFERENCE TO
CREATE WAS THE ONES WHO FROM LOS
ANGELES. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL I BELIEVE EACH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH BYE SEE SHEILA US.
YOUR POSITION THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS FOR THE CROSS SIMON.
I'M FROM SACRAMENTO AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
I AM A STRONG ARGUMENTS AND ONE
TIME FROM SACRAMENTO HIGH OPPOSE
THE SPEAR. THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS CHRISTINA LOPEZ ON
FROM.
FRENCH COOKING MANGA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL AND I
ASSUME THESE ARE YOUR CHILDREN.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO DITTO DITTO
DITTO INDEED OFF THANK YOU.
FOREST FOR A GOOD NEXT.
THANK YOU.
THE SANTA ANA TO KNOW. IT FOLKS
IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE BRINGING
YOUR CHILDREN YOU MIGHT INDICATE
THAT THEY SAY THEY ARE IN
SUPPORT OF YOUR POSITION OR POST
THE BILL BUT I'M NOT GONNA HAVE
ANY MORE. CHILDREN WHEN I CAN
GET OUT OF HERE TODAY IF WE DO
THAT BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
AND IF YOU LET YOUR FOLKS SPEAK
FOR YOU IN THIS.
THAT'S JUST FINE. THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS MARGARET TO
TERM FROM FONTANA CALIFORNIA AND
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THINK IS.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS TERRY
SMITH FROM SAN DIEGO ON MY
BEHALF ASSAULT LIKE COUNCIL I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SPELL THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS SERGEANT FELL COME
FROM CITRUS HEIGHTS CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
JACQUELINE MIDTERM AND I'M FROM
MENIFEE CALIFORNIA RIVERSIDE
COUNTY AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. COMMUTE.
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JAMES
MCDERMOTT ALSO FOR MENIFEE AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME'S REBECCA FELL
BEHIND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
ENTERTAINS OF SACRAMENTO A
REGISTERED VOTER AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
I AM TIRED BODY YOU'LL FROM
SARATOGA I BELIEVE THERE ARE
MANY PEOPLE OF THIS CONCERN THAT
ARE STRUGGLING AND ONE PEOPLE.
WANT HELP FROM LIKE IF THESE
PEOPLE AS I HOPE WE GIVE THEM
THE PLACES TO GO FOR HELP SO I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU THIS
BILL. YEAH MY NAME IS KATHY I
COME FROM SAN JOSE I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU
MA'AM.
HI MY NAME'S INTEND TO COME FROM
CUTTING UP BUT YOU KNOW I
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO DISPUTE
THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS JED TO LANE AND I
REPRESENT CALVARY CHAPEL FALLS
MORE IN JAIL AND WE ALL STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
PHYLLIS DILLANE CITRUS HEIGHTS
CALIFORNIA NIGHT STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS EMILY ARE FROM
FREMONT CALIFORNIA RESIDENT ON A
POSTAGE AND THESE ARE FROM
TAIWAN. ATTENDEES MEANS THAT
FIND BILLY.
OKAY. THANK YOU.
JOAN GENE FROM SACRAMENTO PASTOR
OPPOSED THE BILL THANK YOU SIR.
HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME'S TIMOTHY
WEAVER AND PASTOR ASSOCIATE
PASTOR FROM SHUTTLE TABERNACLE
RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THE BILL THANK YOU SO
MUCH GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU.
DAVID KING TRACED UP PAST TEN
OPPOSED IT COULDN'T TELL. US THE
ONLY POST THANK YOU.
I COULD OFTEN ON MY NAME'S
AIMING THE OLD I COME FROM A
UNION CD OF KIND OF CALIFORNIA
I'M UP LESSONS AT THE PALM TREES
THAT I HOPE. WE CAN HELP PEOPLE
TO CHAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
POST TO THE BILL. UPLINK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M HELEN AND A
FULL GLASS GATOS CALIFORNIA AND
TODAY HER MANY WONDERFUL STORY
AND YOUR AND YOUR POSITION IS
YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE BILL. I
OPPOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
THANK YOU A MOTHER OF THREE
THANK GOD BLESS US THANK YOU.
MEMES ORLANDO PACETTI. IN THE
NAME OF CHRIST I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU SIR.
OKAY MY NAME IS A PACKAGE AND I
COME FROM A CALIFORNIA US OF
THIS AND USE AND THE JEWELERY
SUPPOSE I'LL POSE. OF THIS BILL
THANK YOU MA'AM.
I'M REED SMITH DIRECTOR WITH FOR
CALIFORNIA WITH CONCERNED WOMEN
FOR AMERICA AND ON BEHALF. OF
ALL THE WOMEN I REPRESENT.
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
MAKING HIM.
MY NAME IS GEORGE SMITH FROM
BRAWLEY CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
I'M JIM MORET CORALS AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU
MA'AM.
MY NAME IS IVAN MACAU AND I'M
FROM RANCHO CUCAMONGA CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANKING HIM.
MY NAME IS TERRA SAUCEDO FROM
LAKE ELSINORE CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSES THE THANK YOU.
ROBERT KOMMENTAR FROM ELK GROVE
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
JASON FRANCISCO FROM FONTANA
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
HI EVERYONE MY NAME IS OLYMPIA
SANCHEZ AND I SAY NO TO THIS
BILL. THANK YOU MA'AM.
I MY NAME IS CHERYL FICKLE AND
FROM CHICO CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
MARY MURPHY WALTER FROM CHICO
CALIFORNIA VERTICAL RESPECTS
LIFE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
I AM I'M A PASTOR.
MY NAME IS JESSICA DURAN AND
FOR MUCH OF THE COMING IN A POSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JESSICA GARCIA. A
YOUTH SHILOH PASTURE FROM RANCHO
CUCAMONGA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
HELLO EVERYONE I AM IRIS MENDOZA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS CYNTHIA SHANKLIN FROM
SUN CITY AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS FLORENCE GENERATE THE
TARA AND I UP I'M. OPPOSING THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
I AM MARIA FABLE IN ME AND I'M
FROM RANCHO CUCAMONGA CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL-THANK YOU AND. MY NAME IS
EVELYN
CONNOR FROM MARINO VALLEY
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS RANDY GO THERE SAM
FROM RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY USER GROUP.
OF VETERAN AND FIRST RESPONDER
HOME FOR ME STILL CALIFORNIA
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU SIR.
HI MY NAME IS SAMANTHA CARPENTER
ROAD DIVERSITY COORDINATOR IN
STUDENT AT SIMPSON UNIVERSITY ON
BEHALF OF ST POPULATION IN
STRONG OPPOSITION.
YOU. MY NAME IS NICHOLAS
CALDERON A FORMER STUDENT
VETERAN CHAPLAIN AT VANGUARD
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA FAMILY RESOURCE
COORDINATOR FOR FOSTER FAMILIES
IN CHESTER COUNTY. AND CURRENT
STUDENT AT SIMPSON I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS HENRY TWENTY COPPER
CHAPEL CHINO HILLS CALIFORNIA
AND AUSTIN OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BILL GRIFFIN I'M
CAMPUS PASTOR SINCE UNIVERSITY
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS OLGA HERMAN I'M IN
SACRAMENTO DIRECTOR OF FOR LIFE
WITH THE US NATIONAL PARK
COUNCIL AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
PLUS SINCE I MERIAL BOWMAN
POLLOCK PINES CALIFORNIA AND THE
DIRECTOR PRAY CALIFORNIA AND THE
GLOBAL WOMEN'S MINISTRY DIRECTOR
FOR THE UNITED STATES NATIONAL
PER COUNCIL. IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO.
THIS BILL SP THREE TWO ZERO.
PLEASE ENTER CERTAIN CITRUS
SITES IN LIGHT OF ROMANS TWELVE
TO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON LARRY I READ
PASTOR CELEBRATION CHRISTIAN
CENTER IN LIVERMORE INVOLVED
ALSO WITH THE TRI VALLEY
PASTORS.
AND VICE PRESIDENT OF GRACE
INTERNATIONAL REPRESENT ABOUT
THIRTY TWO HUNDRED CHURCHES
MYSELF AND ALL THOSE WHO STAND
WITH ME ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED TO
AB TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE.
THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU.
AND YOU COULD OPEN FOR MAGICAL
MANGA IN OPPOSITION TO A B. TWO
NINE FOUR THREE THANK YOU.
I FELL INTO THE HOME OF PASTOR
I'M FROM THE CEDAR SOUND
CAPISTRANO AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS SEAN KENNY FROM ROSA
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
KEVIN KENNEDY FROM ROSEVILLE AND
I ALSO STRONGLY OPPOSES BILL
THANK YOU SIR.
ARE YOU TOUGHER MAGIC AMONG I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
THE REAL TO TAR AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSES THAT THANK YOU.
GREAT RADIO TOO TOLERANT TOOK A
COMMON GUY IN A.
I'M AGAINST AS WELL THANK YOU.
BLESSINGS MY NAME IS MARIA E.
SENT AND I AM A PASSER
COMPRESSOR SHOTOVER NOW COULD
RUN TOOK A MANGA. ME AND MY
HUSBAND DON SANTANA WE OPPOSED
TO THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
EVIDENTLY NOT SHOW FROM WEST
COVINA. I HUMBLY IMPLORE ALL OF
YOU VOTE NO ON THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
PASTOR MIGUEL NUNEZ FROM RANCHO
CUCAMONGA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MONEY SHANE GRAY FROM RANCHO
CUCAMONGA MY PASTOR NEW CHAPLAIN
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
PAUL SHAFFER. FROM ACADIA
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA I'M THE
FOUNDER AND CHAIRMAN OF CAN
DEVOTE USERS COOPERATION. AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL SIR.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MY FULL THREE THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS CAIN CHAN I'M THE
PASTOR OF THE IMPACT COVERS
CHURCH MONROVIA. I STRONGLY
AGAINST THIS BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS DEBORAH TOOL I COME
FROM CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JOYCE SOUL I'VE FROM
THE HARBOR THAT CALIFORNIA
OPPOSE IT AB TWENTY NINE OF
FORTY THREE THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME'S AND NEARLY A FOUNTAIN
WAS CITY CALIFORNIA.
UP CLOSE AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JULIEALL WARM AND
COLD I'M FROM. NORTH TUSTIN
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS MAGGIE LEE UP HIGH
FROM THREE TWO IN CALIFORNIA I
SAID STRONGLY OPPOSE EIGHT BE
TURNING TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE
SIX.
THANK YOU MY NAME A SEVENTY JOHN
I FOR ALL MODELS MADE THE
CALIFORNIA. I STRONGLY. OPPOSE
THE BASE BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YU. MY NAME IS REACHING A
I'M FROM ROWLAND HEIGHTS
CALIFORNIA I'M STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS HELEN MOM I COME FROM
CALIFORNIA.
I OPPOSE THIS BAIL SAYING KILL.
THANK YOU.
BENJAMIN STERLING HIGH SCHOOL
GRADUATE OF THE CLASS OF TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE.
CONGRATULATIONS TO. ALISA TEN
FROM A WORD I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU. ISTINA STERLING FROM
HAYWARD CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
I AM MY NAME IS ROSIE TIE THIS
I'M WITH SHILOH TABERNACLE
CHURCH FROM RANCHO CUCAMONGA
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU.
TESTED IN UNIONS FROM RANCHO
CUCAMONGA I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
PASTOR LISA SANCHEZ FROM RANCHO
CUCAMONGA AND I ALSO OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS JENNIFER LU I'M
FROM LOS ANGELES OUR EYES
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
THUNDER MOORING PASTOR AND
CHAPLAIN FOR MAGICAL COME ON
GUYS STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS RYAN SIMPKINS SOME
FROM ANAHEIM CALIFORNIA. AND I
STRONGLY.
DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS
DISCRIMINATORY BILL THANK YOU
SIR.
HELLO ELIZABETH TEN HAYWARD
CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
HELLO KAREN STERLING HAYWARD
CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU MA'AM.
OBLIVIOUS STERLING FROM HAYWARD
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU. MISTER.
HE IS ON LEAVE WHEN WEIGHING
FROM OUR LOS ANGELES. I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THE BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS A LEADING IT BUT BAY
AREA I STRONGLY OPPOSE.
AB TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS BELLA YOU.
OF FROM SAN JOSE CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS ON ALL THOSE AND I AM
A PASTOR OUT OF CHRISTIAN
WORSHIP CENTER MANTECA
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
DAVID HOLD FUND IRVINE
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
I'M PAMELA HOLE AND FROM IRVINE
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS P. TOO COOL I'M FOR
ALMOST THREE TALL.
MY POINT.
OPPOSE THIS CASE THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S MAINLY TO I STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME OF WATER ONLY YOU. AFTER
ON THE AIR A. HYPOTHESIS CBO
THANK YOU.
BUT AM SURE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
RANDY THOMASON PRESIDENT
CAMPAIGN FOR CHILDREN AND
FAMILIES WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THAT DISCRIMINATES THANK
YOU SIR LTV THANK YOUS PERSONAL
RIGHTS. WERE IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU.
MY NAME. MY NAME'S AGNES AND I'M
FROM SAN DIEGO I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LOUIS CHILL I COME
FROM SEPARATES CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSED THE SPEAR.
THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS KIMBERLY
KENNEDY WORDS FROM ELK GROVE
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL BILL THANK
YOU. HELLO MY NAME IS JOHN
GRIFFIN I'M A NATIVE CALIFORNIAN
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
AS WRITTEN.
THANK YOU.
HELLO I AM GAIL OVER BISHOP OF
THE GREAT ALLY FAMILY CHURCH
ALSO FEEL OF DREAM BIG AND MAKE
IT HAPPEN MINISTRIES. RESIDENT
OF SAN AND I OPPOSE AB TWENTY
NINE FORTY THREE THANK YOU SIR.
HONEST OCEAN IS MY AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JAMEELA THE LEASE I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS BRENDA BENNETT FROM
SACRAMENTO AND APPLES THIS BILL
THINK MA'AM.
MY NAME IS ROBIN COULTER FROM
ELK GROVE CALIFORNIA AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS CAROLYN WEEDS FROM
LODI CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
THE GENESIS OF THEM FOR A LOOKS
AND STILL GET OPPOSES
UNCONSTITUTIONAL BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS AND I
CHECK AS I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS A REPAIR
COME WE I'M STRONGLY AGAINST
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY MY NAME IS HE HOME LONG FROM
FOLSOM CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
HELLO I'M GRACE AND STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU AND.
MY NAME IS LIEUTENANT COME FROM
WEST SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA I'M
STRONGLY OPPOSE OPPOSE THIS
BILL.
THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS AMY WEST AND I GOT
HIM FROM ORANGE COUNTY AND I
ESCAPED VIETNAM TO AMERICA HERE.
AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE
HAVE FREEDOM HERE. OF SPEED YOUR
RELIGION YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE
BILL. AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE.
HI MY NAME IS SANDRA AGAIN I'M
COME FROM THE LOS ANGELES.
COUNTY. AND I'M A MOTHER OF FOUR
SO I'LL. THIS BILL THANK YOU
MA'AM.
HI MY NAME IS GRACE I WORK FOR I
ALWAYS SEE USC MEDICAL CENTER I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
HI MY NAME IS CHRIS I'M FROM
PLASTER COUNTY AND I ALSO
STRONGLY POINTS POSES BILL I'M
FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THE
PRETTY THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
I AM MY NAME A PULL A FOR ALMOST
A FOOT AND YOU SAID. I STRONGLY
A PERSON UNDER THE BEAT THIRTY
NINE FORTY THREE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
MY NAME IS JACK AND A NAME STORM
FROM ELK GROVE CALIFORNIA. AM
STRONG AGAINST TO THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE TWO FOR. A B. TWO NINE FOUR
THREE THANK YOU THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS DEBORAH. AND
AGAINST THIS BILL THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS CINDY TEN I COME
FROM AL GO CALIFORNIA I'M A.
STRONGLY AGAINST ANY BE TRUE
NIGHTFALL THREE THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS JOYA HARRINGTON
RESIDENT OF WEST SACRAMENTO.
.
MY CONCERN IS THAT IT KEEPS YOUR
AFFILIATION AND THEN YOUR
POSITION IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL CORRECT.
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL.
I'M STATING IF THIS BILL MAKES
IT ILLEGAL TO SELL THE BIBLE AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR. ATTENTION TO
THAT BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN
A FEW MINUTES BUT YOU'RE OPPOSED
TO THE BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WRITING A NOVEL. RIGHT NOW I
APPRECIATE THAT. NICK THANK YOU
MA'AM THE NEXT WITNESS PLEASE
LIKE I KNOW YOU'RE OPPOSED TO
THE BILL AND. IF WE COULD PLEASE
LET'S HAVE OUR NEXT WITNESS
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
WERE STILL OUT THERE WANT TO BE
HEARD THANK YOU. I AM HIDING
ALIGNED THE NATIVE CALIFORNIAN
UNLICENSED THERAPIST I URGE YOU
TO OPPOSE THE SPELL AND THAT
CLIENTS DETERMINE THEIR OWN PATH
TO THERAPEUTIC CHANGE.
HOLD. MY PIE AND DEBORAH DUGGAN
AND I'M A RESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
IN SUPPORT OF THE FREEDOM OF
CHOICE THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS STRONG RULE FROM
SACRAMENTO I OPPOSED TO BILL
THANK YOU SIR.
HI I'M JENNY ON FOR ON. LOS
ANGELES I POST THESE BILLS.
THANK YOU.
I OP POSTERS SUNK.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS JULIE L. LITTLE
IPHONE ASSAULTS CALIFORNIA I
OPPOSE THE I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HI MY NAME IS EMILY CHAN AND I'M
OF THE POLLS THIS BILL THEY
COMMIT.
MY NAME IS WENDY LEE I'M FOLLOW
CENTERLESS I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS MARY CHILL OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS DEBORAH KEEL AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS BARBARA BATTISTINI
I'M A MOTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL I'M
FROM A CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. THANK
YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS CHRIS WALLACE AND I'M
FROM CENTRAL COASTAND I
STRONGLY. OPPOSE A B. TWO NINE
FOUR THREE THINK EVERYONE
DESERVES THE RIGHT TO HACK YOU.
THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS LAURIE PUNCHES
THEM FROM CENTRAL CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME'S NAOMI DOWN WHITE AND I
WAS RADICALLY SET FREE FROM THE
LESBIAN LIFESTYLE AND IURGE YOU
NOT TO TAKE AWAY THE CHOICES AND
THE FREEDOMS AND THE RIGHTS
THINKING ON THAT LEVEL SHOULD
TAKE VANITY. THANK YOU MA'AM.
FOLKS SO THERE WERE REAL CLEAR
NAME AFFILIATION AND THEN
POSITION ON THE BILL. FIRE I
RECOGNIZE IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT IN
THE HALL YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE
THAT SO LET ME JUST REITERATE
THAT IF YOU WOULD THANK YOU SO
MUCH THANK YOU. OF MADAME TERROR
AND THE SENATORS I AM SHERRY
MILLER REPRESENTING CONCERNED
WOMEN FOR AMERICA. WITH OVER
TWENTY THOUSAND FREEDOM
SUPPORTERS IN OUR STATE AND WE
URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS SHANNON BOOMER SHINE
I'M FROM CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AND
I OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS HALEY BARBOUR
SIGN I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT FROM
BIOLA UNIVERSITY AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
HELLO I'M SHOW MENDENHALL I'M
FROM ORANGE COUNTY AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE DOCUMENTS.
HI MY NAME IS CYNTHIA THINKER
NATIVE CALIFORNIAN AND ARE
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JACOB HUNG FROM TREES
IN CALIFORNIA OPPOSE THIS BILL
ACID IS SAYING THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
HI MY NAME IS BRENDA WOULD I'M
PASTOR OF WORD OF LIFE IN
RIVERSIDE AND I'M ASKING YOU TO
VOTE KNOWN AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU MA'AM.
HELLO I'M CECILIA TEMAS FROM
REDDING CALIFORNIA. AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
NO WE'RE NOT NO MORE WITH NO
KIDS PLEASE WILL ASSUME HE
SUPPORTS YOUR POSITION.
HE WANTS DINNER TONIGHT WE KNOW
HE DOES.
SO I MIXED WITH A SMALL.
MY NAME IS RICK CHAVEZ ON FROM
REDDING CALIFORNIA HIGH OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS REMA HEY DAIRY AND
I'M FROM RANCHO CORDOVA.
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
HI I'M CHRISTIE BENOWITZ I LIVE
IN AUBURN CALIFORNIA AND I'M
AGAINST THIS BILL THANK YOU
MA'AM.
I'M PASTOR MIGUEL RODRIGUEZ FROM
SAN RAFAEL CALIFORNIA AND I
OPPOSE THE B. TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU SIR.
I AM A CHANGED LADY AND I MY
NAME IS DEBORAH DO BRO AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU
MA'AM.
HI I AM I AM I NEED TO POST HERE
ON THE ARM FROM THE WHY DON'T I
OPPOSED. AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU.
BENJAMIN LEFT TO A CHIN I OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
HI MY NAME IS MARY WILSON FROM
SANTA ROSA SONOMA COUNTY AND I
STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS ALISA TEACHER AS. ME
AND THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
HE SAYS WITH ALL DUE HUMILITY
YES THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHTY NEXT WITNESS. HELLO
MY NAME IS CHRIS I'M COME FROM
THE OKLAHOMA COMING FROM THE ON
CALL I'M STRONGLY. OPPOSED TO
THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
IT'S A CHOICE LOU I'M FROM
ORANGE COUNTY. AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IN PACKAGES
UPON THE CONDITIONAL RIDE FOR
THE CHURCH IN THE QUEUE. THANK
HIM.
HI I'M GOING ALONG I'M FINE
ORANGE COUNTY AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE AB. TWENTY NINE OF FORTY
THREE THANK YOU MA'AM PATIENT
AND IT NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
I CAN'T.
YES SIR MY NAME IS SEAN CHAIN
I'M FROM WEST COVINA.
MR. VERY STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU MAKE THANK YOU
THANK YOU SECRETARY SHOULD.
THANK YOU.
AGAIN PLEASE NAME AFFILIATION
AND POSITION CLEARLY OPPOSE
STRONGLY OPPOSED REALLY STRONGLY
OPPOSED. AND THAT WOULD BE IT IF
YOU WOULD THANK YOU. HIGH ON
TIME ON THIS YEAR I AM COMING
FROM A.
A COUNTY EYES TONY PPOSED THE
AB TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU MA'AM APPRECIATE.
MY NAME IS A ME SURE.
I'M FALL ILL A.
FULL STOP A BEATLE NOVELS THREE
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS TRAVIS ALLEN IN
THE CALIFORNIA FATHER IN A
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLYMAN. AB
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE IS AN
ASSAULT ON OUR FIRST AMENDMENT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN'T GIVE
ANY PREFERENCE TO COLLEAGUES AND
I WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF DOING
THAT. NAME AFFILIATION AND
YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE BILL WE
APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU SO
MUCH. FINALLY THANK YOU THANK
YOU SIR.
SHE.
I MET HIM AT THE ON JAM FROM
WILL BUY CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THE BILL THANK YOU SIR.
HI MY NAME IS WAY WHEN CHEN.
PHONE OR BY CALLING FOR ME I'M
VERY STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU MA'AM.
HI MY NAME'S FRED WILL FROM WEST
COVINA CALIFORNIA I'M STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU SIR.
MISS HOLLY A LAWYER AND I'M FROM
LOS ANGELES THEM VERY STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS STEVEN LOOP.
I'M THE SENIOR PASTOR.
FROM UP PASSION BREAD OF LIFE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
I RESENT OR OFF. OUR CHURCH
MEMBER NOT ONLY THAT. QUALITY
NOMINATION OVER TWENTY CHURCHES
IN CALIFORNIA OVER FIVE HUNDRED
CHURCHES WERE WHITE WE STRONGLY
OPPOSED. AB TWO NINE FOUR THREE
THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS TJ I'M FROM SIRI DOES
CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE
BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS LEAVE HIS SITE NOW I
LIVE IN SACRAMENTO EYES AROUND
OPPOSE. AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS OUR DAILY I'M NOT I'M
FROM THE SACRAMENTO I OPPOSE AB
NINE FOUR THREE. THANK YOU
MA'AM.
I AM AS KEVIN WINDHAM PHONES
SAYS STATE A MUST OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU.
EMINEM SNAKE I'M FROM UC DAVIS I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU SIR. MY. JOSHUA CHAN AND
THROWN DAVIS.
BOTH.
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE PLO
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS SARAH FROM BABIES I
STRONG A POST DISAPPEAR. THANK
YOU.
HI MY NAME IS ESTHER.
OUR PHONE. SACRAMENTO.
STRONGLY OPPOSED. EIGHTY TWO OR
NINE FOR FREE AND THANK YOU
MA'AM.
HI MY NAME IS NANCY MOM FROM
SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA AM
EXTREMELY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO AB
TWO NINE FOUR THREE THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO NOTED.
HI MY NAME IS A LAMB FAN SO I'M
FROM FREMONT CALIFORNIA I'M I'M
STRONGLY OPPOSING THIS BILL
BECAME MA'AM I'VE NOTING THE
BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO BECAUSE
JUST THANK YOU. YOU'RE OPPOSED
TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS SOPHIA CALL AND FROM
SARATOGA I STRONGLY OPPOSING
THIS BILL. DVD QUEUE IS SINKING
MAN IS CREATED IN THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THROUGH
THIS NOTE YOUNG MAN. DID YOU
HAVE A MOM WITH YOU.
MOM YOU WANT TO SPEAK UP BUT LET
NO THAT'S WHAT MOM TO IT WE'RE
NOT GOING TO HAVE. CHILDREN
SPEAKING SO.
THIS LOOKS INGRATIATE AND THE
CHRISTIAN FROM FREMONT
CALIFORNIA OUT WE ARE FROM FOR
OTHER CHURCH WILL STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE.
I AM ESTHER. I OPPOSE. IT BE TO
DENY FORTY THREE THANK YOU
MA'AM.
HELLO MY NAME IS YOU'RE
CURRENTLY IN FROM POSSIBLE
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU MA'AM.
MY NAME IS ERIN EASTMAN I'M FROM
POSSIBLE CALIFORNIAN I STRONGLY
OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE FORTY
THREE THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS CAMMY RE BM FROM
POSSIBLE CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB TWENTY NINE
FORTY THREE THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS PAUL BARNES YOU
CAN LIFT IT UP A LITTLE BIT
UNIQUE. RATHER HILLS AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE TWENTY NINE AB
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU SIR.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS NEIL
WIND AND I AM FROM SACRAMENTO
AND PLANET EARTH. AND I SHAME ON
ALL OF YOU FOR BEING N
CHRISTIANS JEWS MORNING THAT
BILL I OPPOSE THE BILL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH OKAY NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE.
HI THERE MY NAME IS BEYOND
LOOKED AT SAM A TRANSGENDER
WOMAN AND I STARTED WAY BACK
WITH HARVEY MEALS. AND I ALSO AM
ASHAMED OF ALL OF YOU HIS MATE
IF IF WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT LOOK.
EVERYBODY SO FAR HAS BEEN REALLY
RESPECTFUL AND I APPRECIATE IT
AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE
APPRECIATES IT I'D LIKE TO KEEP
IT THAT WAY IF WE CAN'T KEEP IT
THAT WAY THIS IS GOING TO.
DEVOLVE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO
CLEAR THE ROOM SO EVERYBODY'S
BEEN REALLY GREAT SO FAR I'D
APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD CONTINUE
IN THAT SPIRIT. THANK YOU SIR GO
AHEAD IF YOU WOULD.
.
MY NAME IS RICHARD CORREO
CATHOLIC PART OF THE GOOD
SHEPHERD INDEPENDENT CATHOLIC
CHURCH AND I SUPPORT THE BILL.
THAT YOU OPPOSE THE BILL WILL
YOU SUPPORT THE BILL YOU'RE IN
FAVOR OF IT ALRIGHT WE'LL
BREAKING THIS UP A LITTLE BIT I
SEE.
NEXT WITNESS AND IF YOU WOULD
THEN INDICATE IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
AND THE THANK YOU FOR
PROCEEDING WITH MY NAME IS KAYLA
VELASQUEZ AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS DIANA HONG FROM
SACRAMENTO TO SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MAD
ABOUT LIKE NOT SHOW AND I'M
FRIENDS FROM FAITH COMMUNITY
CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN NEWARK AND I
ALSO OPPOSED TO THIS BILL AB TWO
NINE FOUR THREE. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LOSE MEN AVALON. I'M
FROM HAYWARD CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE.
YES. AB TWENTY NINE FORTY.
I HOPE YOU WASH YOUR HANDS THIS
EVENING IN ONE HAVE THAT IN
COMMON THERE WHEN YOU'RE.
OUR NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
MY NAME IS EMAIL THIS TO ME
AGAIN AND I AM FROM HAITI WARD.
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU.
I'M YOU WATCHIN FROM EL DORADO
HILLS CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
MY NAME IS TERRY YEN FONTANA
BALDELLI A COUNTY I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL AS THE THIRTY
TWO. YEARS IMMIGRANTS THANK YOU
SIR.
MY NAME IS ABBAS ELISE I'M FROM
ONTARIO CALIFORNIA I'M WITH GOD
CALVARY CHAPEL CHINO HILLS AND
WE DEFINITELY STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THEM MECHANICAL. ELK GROVE.
ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE THANK YOU SIR.
HELLO I'M SUCH A DAVIS SOME FROM
ELK GROVE CALIFORNIA I'M A
MASTERS IN SOCIAL WORK AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE OPPOSE THIS
DANGEROUS BALL THANK YOU. THANK
YOU.
ALL MARKET CENTERS SOME FROM
ORANGEVILLE CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB TWO NINE FOUR
THREE. THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS JEFFREY PERRINE AND
I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION I AM
FROM SACRAMENTO COUNTY AS WELL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH LEARNING I'M
RESIDENT. THANK YOU.
AFTERNOON THERESA MARZANO FROM
PASO ROBLES AND I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME
HERE IN PERSON TO OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HI NAOMI FROM SACRAMENTO OPPOSE
THIS BILL AND I REPRESENT MANY
WHO COULDN'T BE HERE. THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS GOD GIVE US OUR
OP. CHANGES REAL I'M OPPOSED OF
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
SENATOR JACKSON THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR PRESIDING OVER THE
COMMITTEE TODAY AND SOME WOMEN
LOVE THANK YOU FOR THE BILL
RESPECTFULLY ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA FAMILY COUNCIL MY
NAME IS JONATHAN KELLER.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HEART BUT
RESPECTFULLY WE OPPOSE THE BILL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AFTERNOON JAMIE MARIA MARINA I'M
SORRY.
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU.
KAREN KLINGER SACRAMENTO I
STRONGLY OPPOSE ASSEMBLY BILL
TWENTY NINE FORTY THREE THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
HI MY NAME IS DAVID MEDLEY I
DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM LA TO
SUPPORT MY CHANGE FRIENDS AND
TO.
BOLDLY AND STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU.
HI I'M RITA MADURO'S OF
ROSEVILLE AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
I'M RALPH MORE LOUDLY. FROM
SAINT ROSE CATHOLIC PARISH CELL
SACRAMENTAL AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME'S DOES RAY FERRARO AND
ON BEHALF OF SEVEN
CONSTITUTIONAL LAW ATTORNEYS AND
ADVOCATES FOR FAITH AND FREEDOM
IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY WE STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. BUNNIES PEARL CHAIN
FROM. CHINO HILLS CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MY NAME MAY SELL A
SONG I'M FROM FREMONT CALIFORNIA
I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL. THANK YOU MA'AM.
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION WANNA MAKE SURE
EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO
EXPRESS THEMSELVES HERE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL APPRECIATE
THE WAY WE'RE ABLE TO. GET
EVERYONE HERE TO TO SPEAK AND
NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO
THE DYESS.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THE
PREROGATIVE I HAVE HIS CHAIR TO
TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. BOMB SO
THAT WHEN WE DO DISCUSS THIS
WORLD. ESSENTIALLY ON THE SAME
PAGE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS
BILL DOES AND DOESN'T DO. SO
FIRST OF ALL.
AS I UNDERSTAND THIS BUILT IN AT
THE TIME OF CLOSER PERHAPS OF
OTHERS HAVE QUESTIONS I WANT TO
DIRECT EITHER TO. THE AUTHORS OF
THE BILL AND I'D LIKE TO BRING
THE WITNESSES WHO TESTIFIED IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS THE TWO
WHO WERE THE WITNESSES TO PLEASE
ALSO COME UP SO THAT. WE CAN
HAVE QUESTIONS AND HAVE A. GOOD
DEAL OF DISCUSSION.
FIRST OF ALL THIS BILL IS ABOUT
PROTECTING THE CONSUMERS OF
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE A LONG
HISTORY OF PROHIBITING UNFAIR
AND DECEPTIVE BUSINESS PRACTICES
IN PROVIDING. EFFICIENT AND
ECONOMICAL PROCEDURES TO SECURE
THEIR PROTECTION. THIS BILL IS
DESIGNED TO.
TARGET SERVICES THAT PURPORT TO
CHANGE IN INDIVIDUAL SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE AND IF
THERE'S A DISPUTE ABOUT THAT I.
INVITE THE COMMENT BY THOSE
WITNESSES WHO ARE HERE.
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL BUT
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
OVERWHELMING MEDICAL EVIDENCE
INDICATES THAT SEXUAL
ORIENTATION JUST CANNOT BE
CHANGED BY THE SERVICES. AND
THAT THERE IS NO RELIABLE
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS
OTHERWISE.
BUT I WANTED IT THIS POINT THE
INDICATE THAT AND BE CLEAR ABOUT
WHAT THE BILL DOESN'T DO BECAUSE
I HEARD SOME PEOPLE TALK ABOUT.
THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT WE'VE
GOTTEN A NUMBER OF I THINK ALL
OF OUR OFFICES HAVE GOTTEN A
NUMBER OF CALLS AND CONCERNS
THAT THIS BILL WILL PROHIBIT.
THE BIBLE THIS DOES NOT PROHIBIT
THE BIBLE IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT
SELLING THE BIBLE THIS IS A BILL
ABOUT SERVICES. SO ON THE
CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE WHICH I
KNOW ALL MY COLLEAGUES. AND
WE'VE HAD HEARINGS IN THIS
COMMITTEE DEALING WITH SOME
VERY.
OF STICKY FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES
WE SUPPORT THE FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK. AND TO
PRACTICE RELIGION AND THERE'S
NOTHING ABOUT THIS BILL AT LEAST
AS I UNDERSTAND IT. THAT WILL IN
ANY WAY IMPEDE THAT THIS IS A
BILL. THAT IS TARGETED AT
SERVICES NODDED BOOKS BUDDING
GOODS BOOKS OF GOODS SERVICES
ARE.
TRANSACTIONS WHERE SOMEONE
OFFERS TO DO SOMETHING IN
EXCHANGE FOR SOME KIND OF
COMPENSATION. THIS BILL IS
TARGETED AT THAT FINAL ELEMENT
THAT THAT ELEMENT OF PROVIDING A
SERVICE IN EXCHANGE FOR.
COMPENSATION OR REMUNERATION OF
SOME FORM OF SOME SORT SO THIS
BILL.
IS A TARGETED SERVICES THAT
SEEK TO CHANGE AN INDIVIDUAL
SEXUAL ORIENTATION. AND WE HAVE
RECENT AMENDMENTS ON THE BILL SO
WE'VE TRIED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I
KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
CONCERNS A LANGUAGE. HAS BEEN UP
FOR SOME SOMEWHAT FUZZY AND
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S TAKING
THESE AMENDMENTS.
THE BILLS THAT ARE TAKEN IN
THIS COMMITTEE WITH THE GOOD
WORK OF MY COLLEAGUE TO MY.
RIGHT HERE WHO IS MIKE. IS OUR
STAFF MEMBER ON THIS ISSUE.
TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS BILL
TARGETS TARGETS THE SERVICES AND
NOT THE GOOD SO BIBLES ARE NOT
BEING OUTLAWED THEY'RE NOT BEING
RESTRICTED THEY ARE. TO THE
EXTENT THAT THE PEOPLE OF
ARKANSAS ARE INSPIRED BY THEM
WANT TO READ THEM WANT TO LIVE
BY THEM THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS
BILL AS I UNDERSTAND IT THAT
TAKES AWAY FROM THAT AND IT
DOESN'T. PREVENT ANYONE FROM
SHARING RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OR
SPEAKING ON THE TOPIC THAT IS
BEFORE US TODAY. IT DOESN'T EVEN
PREVENT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE
SERVICES AND WE THOUGHT YOU HAD
HEARD MANY OF YOU PASTORS
TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING SERVICES
THAT CONSTITUTES SEXUAL
ORIENTATION CHANGE EFFORTS. SO
LONG AS IT IS NOT INTENDED.
TO RESULT IN THE SALE OF
SERVICES AIMED AT CHANGING A
PERSON'S. INDIVIDUAL SEXUAL
ORIENTATION SO I THINK THAT
THOSE ARE VERY CRITICAL.
DISTINCTIONS. THAT NEED TO BE
DRAWN AND.
IT THIS IS NOT A I KNOW THAT
THERE ARE SOME WHO WOULD LIKE TO
CAST IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL
QUESTION SOMEONE WAS HERE ON
BEHALF OF SEVERAL CONSTITUTIONAL
LAWYERS ON THAT. AGAIN WE NEED
TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT THIS BILL
DOESN'T DO AS WELL AS WHAT IT
DOES TO. AND.
WITH THAT. I JUST WANT TO
INDICATE IN AGAIN IF THE
SCIENTIFIC DATA AND AND SOME OF
US HAVE LOOKED VERY CAREFULLY AT
THIS BECAUSE THIS RAISES A VERY
SERIOUS QUESTION. THAT.
I DO THINK THAT THE AUTHOR OF
THE BILL IN THOSE WITNESSES I
THINK THE WITNESS TESTIFIED.
YOU KNOW FOR SOME PEOPLE THIS IS
A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION FOR
SOME PEOPLE.
THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT WHO
THEY ARE WHO THEY THINK THEY ARE
AND.
OUR SOCIETY HAS HAS
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE ARE.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFERENT SEXUAL
ORIENTATIONS AND IN THIS STATE
WE. HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO.
TO WELCOME EVERYONE AND AS
PEOPLE OF GOD I ASSUME THAT THAT
IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AS WELL SO
THE GOAL IS TO EMBRACE EVERYONE
IS TO WELCOME EVERYONE IS TO TO.
TO LET PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY
ARE.
AMONG OTHERS WHO SUPPORT THEM
AND WILL PROTECT THEM AND
RESPECT THEM AND THE DIGNITY
THAT I'VE SEEN IN THIS FROM
TODAY I THINK IS CONSISTENT WITH
THAT.
A CONSIDERATION.
BUT THERE'S APPEARS TO BE NO
SCIENTIFIC BASIS OR METHOD.%
THAT THESE PROGRAMS CHANGE
PEOPLE IN FACT IN SOME INSTANCES
THE DATA SHOWS AND THE SCIENCE
SHOWS THAT THEY CAN BE HARMFUL.
ARE THERE ARE PERHAPS OTHER WAYS
TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS WHEN PEOPLE
HAVE QUESTIONS OF THEIR OWN
SEXUALITY AND I'M SURE ALL OF US
AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIVES IT'S
PART OF THE PROCESS OF. OF
GROWING UP.
HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS IT DOESN'T
SAY THAT THOSE CAN'T BE
ADDRESSED A AND PERHAPS THERE
ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE ALL SHOULD
HAVE.
THE THE. THE OPPORTUNITY TO
DISCUSS IN A NON THREATENING WAY
AND THEN TO ACCEPT WHO WE ARE IF
THAT'S WHO WE CHOOSE TO BE. AND
AND TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD
WITH OUR LIVES AND TO HONOR AND
RESPECT EACH OTHER. SO.
THIS IS A.
A BILL THAT DEALS WITH THE
SELLING OF SERVICES THAT ARE
DESIGNED TO.
BASICALLY CHANGE IN INDIVIDUAL
SEXUAL ORIENTATION. AND THAT'S
WHY I UNDERSTAND THE BILL AND
PERHAPS TO TO THE AUTHOR AND IN
THE.
IN PRINCIPLE CO AUTHOR IS THERE
ANYTHING THAT I HAVE ARTICULATED
HERE THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH
BECAUSE AGAIN I'M GOING TO OPEN
IT UP FOR DISCUSSION BUT I WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL TALKING
ABOUT THE SAME THINGS HERE. SO
IS THAT A FAIRLY ACCURATE.
SERVICE SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HAVE
BEFORE US TODAY MISTER. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER OF LOW ABSOLUTELY MADAM
CHAIR AND I ALSO WANT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A
PRACTITIONER'S DOCTOR HALL THE
MAN WHO IS A. A PRACTITIONER AND
SELF TO ALSO ANSWER ANY OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
WITH RESPECT TO INDIVIDUALS.
SEEKING TO COME TO TERMS WITH
THEIR IDENTITY SEXUALITY OR ANY
OTHER SERVICES OR HELP THEY MAY
NEED.
THANK YOU SO WITH THAT I WILL
OPEN IT UP I WILL START WITH
SENATOR MOANING IN. OR WHAT
CENTER MORE LIKE I THINKS TO HIT
THE FIRST QUESTION SO CENTER
MORE LIKE THEN WE'LL GO TO
SENATOR MONTH.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR WE GOT
SEVERAL BILLS TODAY OTHER WE'VE
ALREADY APPROVED ON CONSENT.
THAT TED EITHER DEAL WITH SEXUAL
ABUSE SEXUAL HARASSMENT OR
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SO IT'S.
I GUESS SEX IS A BIG TOPIC CAN.
I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING
ON THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON RULES
SUBCOMMITTEE ON SEXUAL
HARASSMENT PREVENTION RESPONSE
SO I. HAVE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES
IN THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS
WHAT.
WHAT DO WE DO AS A STATE
LEGISLATURE TO PROVIDE
COUNSELING SERVICES TO THOSE
HAVE BEEN SOUGHT SEXUALLY
HARASSED WHAT WE DO BECAUSE THIS
IS? SO TRAUMATIC AND I'M NOT
DOCTOR RUTH.
YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE ALL THE
ANSWERS BUT I I DO RESPECT THE
WORK A COUNSELOR SO MAYBE IF I
COULD ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
.
STIRRED DOLMAN. FROM. ARE YOU
AWARE OF UP SERVICES WHERE THEY.
THERE'S A GUARANTEED RESULT.
OF.
I THINK THAT. THERE'S ANY
GUARANTEED RESULT I AM NOT A
PROFESSIONAL.
OKAY SHOWING THE PASTOR AND HE
KILLED CLEAN THAT I RECEIVED
FROM A LICENSE CALIFORNIA.
AS HE USED AS A AS AN ADULT.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TOLD FOR KORISTE
I SAID I'D WHITE WANTED TO WORK
THROUGH MY UNWANTED SYNTAX
ATTRACTION. AND THEY'VE ONLY
HELP ME DISCOVERED UNDERSTAND
ROOT CAUSES OF SAME SEX
ATTRACTION SO I'VE NEVER BEEN
TOLD IF YOU COME TO OUR OFFICE
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT.
SO. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REFER
TO THIS PERSON BUT YOU DIDN'T
SEE AN ADVERTISEMENT THAT SAID.
COME TO OUR SERVICE AND WE WILL
GUARANTEE. A RESULT CORRECT BY
WITH SPRAWL POLICY OF THE
VULNERABLE YOUTH AND QUESTIONING
MY SEXUALITY AND WHAT WAS
WONDERFUL IS THAT A SAFE
ENVIRONMENT. THAT A THERAPIST
ALLOWED ME TO JOURNEY ON THAT
AND NOT BE COARSER TOLD. THIS IS
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE CALM.
I WAS NEVER HARMED I DID NEVER
HEARD ME IT WAS MY CHOOSING AS
YOU HEARD MY TESTIMONY EARLIER.
AFTERWARDS I DECIDED TO COME
OUT.
SO YOU'RE IN YOUR INSTANCE YOU
DIDN'T GO THROUGH A.
THERAPY PROGRAM DOWN AQUINO I
JUST SAW AND MET A MFT
CALIFORNIA MFT LICENSED.
PROFESSIONAL SO THEN.
BEING ABLE TO JUST TALK TO A
COUNSELOR THAT SORT OF YOUR
EXPERIENCE CORRECT.
IS THAT THE SAME FOR YOU AS
WELL.
.
ELIZABETH.
I DID NOT ADDRESS MY SEXUALITY
IN IN COUNSELING OKAY.
.
THEN SHOULD.
IF IF THERE WERE YOU. KNOW IF
YOU HAD COUNSELING DO YOU FEEL
THAT IF YOU DISCUSSED THE
SUBJECT OF.
THIS CONCERN DO YOU THINK THOSE
SERVICES SHOULD COME AT NO. FEAR
COST.
WELL I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE
WOULD SURVIVE IF I DIDN'T PAY OR
ACTION WHEN I WAS A MINOR MY
PARENTS PAID THE BILL THERE
ISN'T A GROWN ADULT I PAID A
FEE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE I WAS
SUICIDAL AS IN A GROWN MAN AT
AGE TWENTY.
THREE OR TWENTY FOUR ARM I WOULD
EVER NEED AT THE TIME OF HIS
FALL A CUES TO BEING A
HOMOSEXUAL I WAS A VIRGIN. SO I
CAME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES
WENT THROUGH A VERY SEVERE
DEPRESSION SUICIDAL.
BARELY PICK MYSELF UP OUT OF THE
SHOWER FLOOR THAT'S HOW
DESPERATE WHEN I WAS IN THE
CALIFORNIA PSYCHIATRIST WAS A
HOMOSEXUAL MAN.
HE DID NOT TRY TO CHANGE ME DO
NOT TRY TO SAY YOU'RE GAY HER
BORN THIS WAY HE JUST HELPED ME
GO ON THE PATH THAT I WANTED TO
GO I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.
BUT I WAS I WAS A LITTLE FEARFUL
COULD YOU KNOW I'M WE'RE CLOSE
ROOM ANYWAY ALL JUST BUT HE DID
HE JUST RESPECTED ME. AND HE
SAID THE DEAL I CAN GIVE YOU
SOME MEDICINE TO HELP YOU. AND
HE HELPED ME DIDN'T TRY TO TELL
ME I NEEDED TO BECOME A GAY MAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YARD WITH
VERY BRIEFLY WE HAVE OTHER
PEOPLE WHO WISH TO ASK QUESTIONS
AS RATE THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND WE
WILL GET TO THEM VERY SHORTLY
SIMPLY SPEND A GREAT JOB THANK
YOU I APPRECIATE THAT ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. TO THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER IF I MAY IF YOU YES
SEVERAL LOW I WANT TO.
CONGRATULATE YOU FOR. GIVING US
THE MOST PHONE CALLS THIS YEAR.
THIS HELPS.
AND THIS IS WITH THE LONGEST
LIST OF WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
AS WELL FOR ME BUT.
IT IT WAS VERY GEOGRAPHICALLY
DIVERSE.
SO I MIGHT MY FIRST QUESTION IS
I'M I'M TRYING TO GET TO THIS
CLAIM. THAT YOU WILL HAVE.
A SUCCESSFUL. RESULT AND SO ON
IT MAYBE TO TO USE THE WORD I'M
I'M HAVING CLAIMED TO BE ABLE TO
CHANGE PERSONALS. SECTIONAL
SEXUAL ORIENTATION BY
ADVERTISING OR ENGAGING IN
SEXUAL ORIENTATION CHANGER
GENDER IDENTITY. IN THE THAT'S
CALLED PROJECT AND I'M JUST
TRYING TO GET TO THAT IN IN IT
SO. IF YOU COULD. IF IF IF
SOMEONE WERE ADVERTISING IN THAT
MANNER AND THEY JUST DROPPED THE
CLAIM THEN THEY COULD STILL DO
WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. OR
THAT THAT WHAT THEY DO FOR A
VOCATION.
SECRETARY. OF ALLOW ME TO ALSO
WITH ME THROUGH THE CHAIR ALLOW
FOR INDECENT INTO ANSWERING TO
THE TECHNICAL NATURE OF THE
QUESTION. ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS
WITH RESPECT TO VERY NARROW
SCOPE OF A FINANCIAL TRANSACTION
THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
YOU HEARD BEFORE. AS OUTLINED BY
MADAM CHAIR WHICH IS THAT IT
DOES NOT WORK AND THAT'S WHAT
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASOCIATION MARTIN
FAMILY THERAPIST ALL JOIN IN
SUPPORT. OF THIS BILL BECAUSE
NOT ONLY DOES IT NOT WORK IS
ACTUALLY HARMFUL AND
EXACERBATING SUCH THOUGHTS OF
SUICIDE AND I IF I MIGHT ADD BUT
YOU HEARD ABOUT THE TESTIMONY
YOU'VE JUST. HEARD WITH RESPECT
TO THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS
TESTIFYING ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL
EXPERIENCES THAT IT'S STILL
ALLOWED AND IS LEGAL UNDER THIS
BILL.
UNDER THIS BILL IT'S
SPECIFICALLY IS NEARLY SIX
TAILORED TO CONVERSION WHICH IS
THAT YOU CAN BE CHANGED BUT
WE'VE NOT HEARD ANY OF THE
TESTIMONY SAY THAT THAT WAS WHAT
WAS DESCRIBED. IN TERMS OF THEIR
PERSONAL EXPERIENCES SO THEN WE
WOULD WANT TO DISCOURAGE THE
ADVERTISING. BUT YOU WERE STILL
PERMITTED TO DO SEXUAL
COUNSELING. BECAUSE I CERTAINLY
WANT TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THOSE
THAT ARE HARASSED HERE IN THE
CAPITAL.
IN THAT STILL ALLOWS FOR
SPIRITUAL COUNSELING. THAT IS
CORRECT IT IS JUST SIMPLY THE
CHANGE EFFORTS IT IS VERY NARROW
IN SCOPE SO AGAIN WHAT YOU HAVE
HEARD IN TESTIMONY AND
OPPOSITION OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
THAT EXPERIENCE THEIR OWN
JOURNEY THAT IS STILL LEGAL
UNDER THIS BILL BECAUSE WHAT
WE'VE NOT HEARD OF ANYTHING
SPECIFIC TO THOSE CHANGES FERNS
AND IF ANYONE MAKES A CLAIM. AND
YOU WOULD RELY ON THAT CLAIM IT
DOESN'T.
TRANSPIRE AS YOU HAD EXPECTED
YOU ALWAYS HAVE. THE REMEDY OF
MALPRACTICE LITIGATION YOU CAN
FILE FOR YOUR. SERVICES TO GET
YOUR FEEDBACK CORRECT.
IF I MIGHT TO VENTURE BUT MISTER
PLEASE.
THANK YOU CHAIR MEMBERS ANTHONY
SAMPSON WITH ARNOLD PORTER. AND
I I WOULD I WOULD ASK THE
SENATOR YOU'D MENTIONED YOU'RE
USING THE WORD CLAIM. ON THE
BILL DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY SORT OF
GUARANTEE.
AND SO.
THE. THE DEFINITION OF SEXUAL
ORIENTATION CHANGE EFFORTS IS
ANY PRACTICES THAT SEEK TO
CHANGE AN INDIVIDUAL SEXUAL
ORIENTATION. THERE THEN THERE'S
A SUBSEQUENT SENTENCE THAT TALKS
ABOUT ACTS THAT FALL WITHIN THE
SCOPE OF DOING THAT.
AFTER THAT THERE'S EATING EVEN
LONGER DEFINITION OF WHAT SEXUAL
ORIENTATION CHANGE EFFORTS IS
NOT. IN TERMS OF THE THE THE
SERVICE RIGHT THE THE FACT THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT WOULD FALL WHEN IT WITHIN
THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL IS
ADVERTISING OFFERING FOR SALE OR
SELLING SERVICES CONSTITUTING.
SEXUAL ORIENTATION SHAVE CHANGE
EFFORTS TO AN INDIVIDUAL. SO
THERE'S NO.
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION IN THE
BILL ABOUT ANY SORT OF CLAIM OR
ANY SORT OF GUARANTEE IT'S
MERELY THE ACT OF DOING IT. WELL
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO PIN
DOWN BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING
THAT IF YOU'RE CLAIMING IN YOUR
ADVERTISEMENT AND YOU DON'T
THEN. THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO STOP AND THE IN
THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS IF
YOU TRY TO BUY SERVICES YOU
DON'T GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU CAN
EITHER NOT PAY OR YOU COULD. SUE
FOR TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK RIGHT
WELL THAT'S ALREADY THERE IF I
MAY WHAT THIS BILL SAYS IS YOU.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION WHETHER OR
NOT YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL YOU CAN'T
MAKE THE CLAIM YOU CAN'T YOU
CAN'T EVEN ADVERTISE THAT YOU
CAN DO THIS CONVERSION. THERAPY
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO YOU DON'T
NEED TO COME FORWARD AND SAY HEY
THIS DIDN'T WORK AND I'M GONNA
SUE YOU FOR MALPRACTICE WHAT
THIS DOES. IS IT PROHIBITS ANY
ADVERTISING ANY EFFORTS TO.
EXCHANGE SERVICES OR TWO TO GET
REMUNERATION FOR SERVICES WHERE
YOU CLAIM THAT YOU CAN HELP
SOMEONE CHANGE THEIR SEXUAL
IDENTITY IF THAT WERE THEIR SEX
THAT'S RIGHT AND WENT INTO
ACTION THAT THAT SAYS YOU KNOW.
COME TO THE LAW OFFICES OF OF
ANTHONY SAMPSON WE CAN CHANGE
YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION RIGHT BE
WE ENGAGE IN IN. SEXUAL
ORIENTATION CHANGE EFFORTS.
CORRECT THAT THAT'S FINE THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
MOANING IS FOR ANYONE ELSE AFTER
CENTER MORNING A WEEK.
OKAY VERY GOOD CENTER STERN
AFTER CENTER MONEY. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR I ALSO WANT TO
COMPLIMENT YOU AND YOUR STAFF
YOU'RE CHAIRING TODAY IN THE
STAFF PREPARATION. HOUSE WANT TO
THANK EVERYONE WHO'S COME HERE
TODAY. I THINK YESTERDAY WE
RECEIVED JUST UNDER ONE THOUSAND
PHONE CALLS IN MY OFFICE. THE
VAST MAJORITY IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL.
I THINK WITH SOME OF THE
CLARIFICATION FROM THE CHAIR AND
I'M GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR
THE AUTHOR. THOSE THAT HAVE
RALLIED. IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL.
YOU'VE ALREADY SECURED A VICTORY
WITH THE CLARIFICATIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN OFFERED THROUGH THE
AMENDMENTS. ENDING IN A
DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THE SUCCESS
OF YOUR EFFORTS. BY ASKING THE
AUTHOR.
DOES ANYTHING IN THIS BILL
PROHIBIT THE SALE OF THE BIBLE.
NO IT DOES NOT.
THIS ANYTHING IN THIS BILL
PROHIBIT THE READING OF THE
BIBLE NO DOES NOT.
DOES ANYTHING IN THIS BILL
PROHIBIT.
WORKING WITH THE FAITH COMMUNITY
AND LEADERS ARE MEMBERS OF THAT
FAITH COMMUNITY ARTICULATING
THEIR VIEWPOINTS ARE
PERSPECTIVES ABOUT SEXUAL
ORIENTATION. NO DOES NOT.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO
PHONED AND LEFT MESSAGES IN
OPPOSITION WITH OUR OFFICE.
CHARACTERIZE THE BILL OF DOING.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE
HEARD NOT JUST FROM THE CO
AUTHOR. BUT ALSO FROM THE CHAIR
IN THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS. THAT
BILL DOES NOT DO THAT.
THE BILL FOCUSES ON A
PROHIBITION OF COMMERCIAL
ADVERTISING. OFFERING A SERVICE
TO PROMISE TO CONVERT SOMEBODY.
TO CHANGE THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
WE KNOW FROM MEDICAL SCIENCE.
THAT'S WHY THE CME SUPPORTS THIS
BILL THE AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC
ASSOCIATION.
THOSE OFFERS UP A COMMERCIAL
OFFERING OF A SERVICE TO CONVERT
A PERSON'S SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
ARE NOT EVIDENCE BASED.
AND THIS BILL IS NARROWLY
CRAFTED TO PROHIBIT.
WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FALSE
ADVERTISING IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA?
BUT IT DOES NOT PREVENT.
THOSE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF FAITH
COMMUNITIES. THOSE WHO PROVIDE
COUNSELING SERVICES WITHIN FAITH
COMMUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO SIMPLY
WANT TO ARTICULATE THEIR VIEWS.
FROM ARTICULATING THOSE FREE
SPEECH RIGHTS AND BILL VIEWS.
INSTRUCTOR MY CHARACTERIZING
THAT CORRECTLY FROM YOUR VIEW
POINT IS THE CO AUTHOR OF THIS
BILL ABSOLUTELY.
WELL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR EFFORTS I DO APPRECIATE.
THE CONCERN IN THE PRESENCE OF
THOSE. WHO HAVE SEEN THIS BILL
REPRESENTING SOMETHING THAT IT
DOESN'T AND IT'S LED TO
CLARIFICATIONS THE GUARANTEE?
THAT IT WON'T HAVE THAT IMPACT
MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU AND I'D BE
PREPARED TO MOVE THE BILL AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR MONEY HAS A
GOOD CROSS EXAMINATION. AND A
LAWYER AND YOU STILL HAVE. ALL
RIGHT SENATOR STERN A YOUNG
LAWYER.
AND SHARE.
ONE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION I
HAVE THE BEFORE.
CLARIFYING THAT I DID WANT TO
SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE.
THE TESTIMONY FROM.
FOLKS WHO SHOWED UP HERE TODAY
AND.
THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT.
IS NOT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO
BELIEVE.
OR. WHO TO LOVE? OR HOW TO
WORSHIP. THIS VERY MUCH.
NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS
THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE A FIRST
AMENDMENT THAT SEPARATES CHURCH
AND STATE. AND. OBVIOUSLY THE
CHURCH HAS POWER OR CHURCHES
HAVE POWER THERE ARE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT.
MARK CATIONS UPON THAT SPECTRUM
OF HOW PEOPLE ENGAGE IN FAITH I
PERSONALLY HAVE A VERY CLOSE
RELATIONSHIP WITH MY RABBI.
BUT I SEEK THAT COUNCIL VERY
PRIVATELY AND I DON'T WANT THE
GOVERNMENT. INTRUDING INTO THAT
THAT PRIVATE CONVERSATION NOR MY
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
HOWEVER I DO NOT BELIEVE.
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT
OF THE BUSINESS OF REGULATING
BUSINESS.
THAT IS SOMEWHERE WHERE WE DO
HAVE A ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY
TO PLAY.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE BUSINESS
RATING FAITH. BUT BUSINESS.
AND SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO.
SENATOR MINING FOR THE AUTHOR IS
THAT PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP. WE
ALL HAVE OUR WE ALL MAY HAVE
WITH WHOEVER PASTOR OR RABBI
YOU'RE CLERIC MAY BE.
DOES ANYTHING IN THIS MEASURE
PREVENTS THAT KIND OF
COUNSELLING THAT KIND OF SERVICE
IF IT IS NOT PROVIDED IS SORT OF
AN ADVERTISED SERVICE BUT IS
THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH YOUR
PASTOR WITH YOUR CONGREGATION.
WITH RESPECT TO CONFUSING
THOUGHTS YOU MAY BE HAVING OR
WORK STRUGGLES YOU MAY BE GOING
THROUGH AS TO YOUR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
NO.
THAT TOO AS YOU'VE OUTLINED IN
THAT SCENARIO IS STILL POSSIBLE.
AND IN FACT EVEN IF THERE WAS NO
FINANCIAL TRANSACTION.
INDIVIDUALS OF FIERCE FACE COULD
STILL PRACTICE CONVERSION
THERAPY JUST SO AS LONG AS NOT A
FINANCIAL TRANSACTION. SO WE
STILL WANT TO ALLOW FOR
INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK IT SHOULD
THEY WISH TO DO SO. JUST SO LONG
AS THERE'S NO FINANCIAL
TRANSACTION.
AND BUT I I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT.
THE CHURCH IS IN THE BUSINESS OF
SELLING PRAYER.
THAT IS IT THAT IS A NON PROFIT
ENTERPRISE. AND PEOPLE ARE NOT
PAID FOR THEIR PREACHING RIGHT
IN THE SAME WAY THE FOR PROFIT
BUSINESSES OPERATE SO WITH THOSE
PROTECTIONS IN MIND AND THAT
PRESERVATION OF THE FREEDOM TO
PREACH THE FREEDOM TO SEE
COUNSEL. THE FREEDOM TO WORSHIP
HOW YOU SO CHOOSE. WHICH BY THE
WAY THE WAY I CHOOSE TO WORSHIP
GOD.
IS NOT ONE WHERE I'M SEEKING
CONVERSION OF OF FELLOW
CONGREGANTS OR FROM OTHER PEOPLE
I LEAVE THAT FREEDOM FOR
EVERYBODY.
TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AS THEY SEE
FIT BUT WITH THOSE PROTECTIONS
OUT. OF THE I'LL BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL TODAY SO THANK YOU.
NO CENTER HERTZBERG BRIEFLY AND
THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO CLOSE.
MANAGER I MAY END UP ALL I'M
SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THAT. CENTER
ANDERSON AND THEN SENATOR HURTS
FOR MY APOLOGIES. NO I MIGHT PUT
IT ALSO YOU KNOW I I DON'T KNOW
WHO DONE IT HERE BUT I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW RESPECT I
CAN'T IMAGINE HOW HARD IT WAS
FOR EVERYBODY. TO GET OFF A WORK
ORDER DO WHICH HAD TO DO THE
SHOW APPEARED TODAY OFTEN THE
BEING IN THE CAPITAL WAS FORMED
EIGHTY TWO CITIES IN CALIFORNIA
IT'S A GIGANTIC STATE AND I I DO
WANT TO ECHO WHAT WAS SAID
EARLIER ABOUT THE FOLKS. AS WE
LISTEN FROM ALL OF THE ALL PARTS
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IT'S
VERY IMPRESSIVE THAT YOU TOOK
THE TIME. TO TALK TO YOUR
GOVERNMENT OFF AND A SOMETHING
WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU. YOU KNOW I
I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS BOOK TO
TELL ME TO DO WHICH WHICH I
PROMISE TONIGHT DID. AND AND
ALSO.
I WAS GIVEN THIS MAY SEVENTH ON
TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN LA TIMES
EDITORIAL WHICH HAD IMPACT ON
ME.
THAT BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT HOW
OVER BROUGHT THIS THIS MEASURE
WAS AND THE FACT THAT IT COULD
IN FACT IMPINGE UPON THE FIRST
AMENDMENT TO THE BILL HAS BEEN
AMENDED. JUST TO BE A GOOD WAYS
FROM MY RECORD MY READING HERE
IT'S BEEN MENTIONED I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT I WANT PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND MY VIEW HERE. ON MAY
THIRTIETH IN THE SENATE MISS A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO IN THE
PROBATIVE ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO
CHANGE I THINK IT IS THE
QUESTION OF MONEY. IF THERE'S NO
MONEY IT DOESN'T HE THIS THIS
WAS THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT THE
GOVERNMENT CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT
TO BELIEVE OR WHAT YOUR PASTOR
SHOULD BE WHAT YOUR PASTOR SAYS.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS CERTAIN
LIMITED POWERS LIMITED TO THE
CONSTITUTION AND I'M A BIG
CONSTITUTIONALIST. BUT IF YOU
LOOK AT THE MEASURE HERE IN
TERMS OF CHANGE EFFORTS TO WHICH
THE AUTHOR TALKED ABOUT. IT SAYS
ON PAGE EIGHT PARAGRAPHS ONE
THROUGH EIGHT UNDER SECTION TWO
IT TALKS ABOUT SEXUAL
ORIENTATION CHANGE EFFORTS DOES
NOT INCLUDE. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE
TWO TO THE EXTENT THAT FOLKS
HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING TO
RICHMOND CENTER MONEY TALKED
ABOUT NATO'S RP ASKED EXACT
QUESTIONS I WISH I WAS. GOOD
ENOUGH TO ASK BUT BUT IT SAYS IT
DOESN'T INCLUDE.
.
PSYCHOTHERAPIES IT PROVIDE
ACCEPTANCE SUPPORT UNDERSTANDING
OF CLIENTS FACILITATION OF GOOD
COPING WITH BUBBLE BAR IS NOT
SEEK SEXUAL CHANGE ORIENTATION.
AND AND THAT'S THE SECOND FACTOR
HERE IS MONEY THE TRANSFER OF
MONEY. WHEN YOU GO PRAY AT
CHURCH YOU DON'T OR TEMPLE LIKE
I AM JEWISH AS WELL AS. CENTERS
STERN YOU KNOW THERE'S NO COST
TO THAT THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR
THAT THERE'S NO INVASION ON THAT
SANCTITY. OF WHICH IS WHEN YOU
LISTEN TO THE FOLKS AT ALL YOU
GUYS WE LISTEN TO PEOPLE
TESTIFY.
AND YOU COULD CERTAINLY SAY WHAT
PEOPLE ASSOCIATE WITH A
RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION.
WE KNOW THAT OFTEN. THAT. LAWS
SCARE PEOPLE.
THAT THEY GET PITCHED IN WAYS
THAT ARE EXTENDED BEYOND WHAT
THEY REALLY ARE. ARE THEY
NARROWLY CRAFTED WITH RESPECT TO
WHAT THE GOVERNMENT'S POWER IS
AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT'S POWER
IS IT. AND I JUST I I JUST THINK
THAT THE FACT THAT THIS IS
LIMITED TO THE ADVERTISING
LIMITED FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS
CLUE REALLY HAS VERY BROAD
EXCLUSIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT I
THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND IT'S BEEN
CORRECTED BY VIRTUE WAS LIKE
TIMES NO QUESTION IN MY JUDGMENT
THAT THE MEMBER THAT YOU TOOK.
DEALT WITH THE OVER BROUGHT
BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHEN I WAS
GIVEN THIS THAT IT REALLY WAS
SMART IT WAS THAT IS NOT BY
ANYBODY IS THAT THE KID WAS BY
THE CENTER BECAUSE THIS IS
DOMINATING OUR CONVERSATION WAS
SITTING COMMITTEE THAT I WAS
CHAIRING. ANOTHER CENTER GAVE
THIS TO ME. SO. IT EVEN IT'S
IT'S YOU WE'VE TAKING THIS VERY
SERIOUSLY AND I JUST CAN'T TELL
YOU HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT
YOU'RE HERE AND THAT WE TAKE IT
SERIOUSLY. BUT BUT HE DOES I
BALANCES OUT I AM A
CONSTITUTIONALIST AND AND I
DON'T THINK THAT THIS IN ANY WAY
I'M IN IT INVADES THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF PRAYER.
AND TO TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK OR
NOT TO THINK HE DEALS WITH
COMMERCIAL TRANSACTIONS
ADVERTISING IN THE COMMERCIAL
CONTEXT ENHANCES APPROPRIATELY
CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED SOMEONE
TO SHARE THAT WITH USING
SUPPORT.
SENATOR HERTZBERG SENATOR
ANDERSON. THANK YOU.
.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK
QUESTIONS FOR THE AUTHOR SO.
OUT CONVERSION THERAPIES LEGAL
CORRECT.
CURRENTLY.
FOR PRACTICE AS AS YOU KNOW IN
TWO THOUSAND TWELVE THE STATE
PASSED THE LAW. AND TO BAN
CONVERSION THERAPY FOR MINORS
EIGHTEEN AND UNDER.
BUT FOR ADULTS SO THAT THE
TESTIMONY EARLIER.
OF YOUR TESTIMONY WAS NOT.
WOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL TODAY THEY
COULDN'T PUT YOU THROUGH THE
MARBLES IN THE MOUTH AND OTHER
ITEMS. UNDER CURRENT LAW CORRECT
CURRENTLY THAT THAT IS STILL
POSSIBLE.
OKAY.
SO.
.
SO IF YOU'RE. AN ADULT BECAUSE
CONVERSION THERAPY FOR MINORS IS
NOT ON THE TABLE. THEN YOU ARE
SEEKING.
THAT HELP AND WE KNOW THE
SUICIDE RATES.
ARE EXTREMELY HIGH.
WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT THEM TO
HAVE ACCESS TO CARE THAT THEY
CHOOSE NOBODY'S FORCING THEM TO
TAKE THEIR?
RIGHT THERE EIGHTEEN AN OLDER.
SOUL NO ONE'S FORCING THEM IF
THEY THINK THAT THAT'S A PATH.
THAT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM SANE.
WHY WOULD WE OPPOSE THAT?
UNDER CURRENT LAW INDIVIDUALS
ARE STILL ABLE TO SEEK. ANY TYPE
OF TREATMENTS ARE MODALITIES
THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM
PRACTITIONERS WHAT WE'RE SAYING
IS THAT WHEN THERE'S A FINANCIAL
TRANSACTION WE ALREADY KNOW THAT
SCIENTIFIC DATA HAS INDICATED
THAT THIS IS NOT ONLY. HARMFUL
BUT IT DOES NOT WORK SO UNDER A
FINANCIAL TRANSACTION. WE WANT
TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE THE
PROTECTION IN PLACE FOR
CONSUMERS AND THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. BUT ADDITIONALLY
SHOULD AN INDIVIDUAL SEEK TO BE
CHANGED SPECIFICALLY THEY CAN DO
SO BUT UNDER NO COST.
WELL IT'S NOT YET NO COST
BECAUSE YOU'RE FORCED HIM TO GO
TO A SYNAGOGUE OR CHURCH YOU'RE
FORCING THEM TO GO IF THEY'RE AN
ATHEIST. AGAINST THEIR WILL.
IN THEIR FORCE HIM TO HAVE THIS
THERAPY.
BY SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT NECESSARY
A LICENSED PRACTITIONER RIGHT
AMENDMENT LIKE LICENSED MENTAL
HEALTH PROVIDER.
SO TO ME THIS IS YOUR LITTLE
REALLY LIMITING PEOPLE'S
CHOICES.
AT SEEKING HELP FOR THEMSELVES.
ON THE ON THE FLIP SIDE IF A
PERSON WERE TO ADVERTISE HOPEFUL
TO THOSE LOOKING. TO QUESTION.
WOULD THAT.
WOULD THAT BE GOING OVER THE
LINE OR WOULD THAT BE.
OR WOULD THAT BE.
OKAY.
MINIATURE MADE TO PLACE THIS IS
ABSENT ON PLEASE YEAH FROM FROM
MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCENARIO
YOU JUST LAID OUT SENATOR.
THAT WOULD BE OKAY AGAIN YOU
NEED TO CROSS OVER THAT
THRESHOLD OF SEEKING TO CHANGE
ONES SEXUAL ORIENTATION. AND
MISS SENATOR HERTZBERG MENTIONED
YOU KNOW THERE IS THIS LONG
DEFINITION OF WHAT IT WHAT IT
DOES NOT INCLUDE. AND THAT
INCLUDES COPING SOCIAL SUPPORT
IDENTITY EXPLORATIONS YOU CAN
HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WALK
THROUGH IT WITH A THERAPIST THE
PAST WHOEVER YOU NEED TO. AND
TALK ABOUT IT TALK ABOUT YOUR
CONCERNS AND SEEK SOME HELP BUT
AGAIN THE MOMENT THAT THAT HELP
CROSSES THAT THRESHOLD. OF
SEEKING TO CHANGE THAT
INDIVIDUAL SEXUAL ORIENTATION
THAT'S WHERE THE PROVISIONS OF
THIS BILL APPLY BUT ANYTHING.
SHORT OF THAT IS SO VERY MUCH
PERMITTED SO.
THROUGH THE CHAIR FOR ME. SO IF
I'D.
AMORTIZED HELPFUL TO THOSE
LOOKING. AT.
WITH.
WITH CONFUSING THOUGHTS.
AND THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY.
THIS IS WHERE I AM IN THIS IS
WHERE I WANNA BE.
IN YOUR. BECAUSE YOU'RE CHARGING
YOU CAN OFFER ON. THE THERAPY
THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WOULD
YOU BE ABLE TO DO A REFERRAL.
WOULD YOU WILL SAY. YOU CAN I
CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE I CHARGE
FOR IT BUT HERE ALL THE LOCAL.
.
RELIGIOUS FACILITIES THAT OFFER
THIS.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO THAT
UNDER THIS LAW YET BECAUSE THE
OFFERING OF IT THE ADVERTISING
IT HAS TO BE IN EXCHANGE FOR FOR
DOLLARS THAT BUT THAT WAS PART
OF THE CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES
ACT. THEY PAID FOR THE
APPOINTMENT SO THE REFERRAL INTO
ITSELF THOUGH WOULD FACT.
WITH THAT LAND THAT PRACTITIONER
IN. OF THE PROVIDER IN IN IN A
LAWSUIT CENTER FROM UNDERSTAND
YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY YOU'RE
ASKING BY VIRTUE OF PAYING. THE
INDIVIDUAL WHO PUT OUT THE
ADVERTISEMENT.
FOR THAT APPOINTMENT THE
INDIVIDUAL SAYS WELL. YOU KNOW I
CAN'T PERFORM THOSE SERVICES FOR
YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING ME
HOWEVER YOU CAN GO. ELSEWHERE
AND LET ME GIVE YOU A LIST FOOD
DON'T CHARGE FOR IT. IF THE IF
THE IF THE MONEY IS. IS AGAIN
TRANSFERRED TO THE INDIVIDUAL
WHO HAD HAD PUT OUT THAT
ADVERTISE WITH YOU MENTIONED BUT
NEVER PERFORMED. SEXUAL
ORIENTATION CHANGE EFFORTS THAN
THE DOLLARS AREN'T BEING
EXCHANGE TO THE INDIVIDUAL
PROVIDING THE SERVICE SO I DON'T
SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
BUT I WOULD BE LEADING TO THEIR
SERVICE OF GETTING THE ACTUAL
TREATMENT AND I I I GUESS WOULD
BE TESTING THIS IN COURT. SO
THEN THE NEXT QUESTION COMES AS
YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES.
FAITH BASED MINISTRIES.
OUR LIVES ARE FOCUSED ON
WHATEVER THAT MYSTERY MAYBE
MAYBE WORKING WITH ALCOHOLICS.
IT MAY BE WORKING WITH UNIFYING
FAMILIES AFTER THEY'VE BROKEN
UP.
IF THEY WENT WITH THIS
CONVERSION THERAPY.
WE KNOW THAT.
SOMETIMES LICENSED PROVIDERS.
WILL OFFER SERVICES TO THEIR
CHURCH.
TO HELP.
WITH THIS PUT. THEM IN JEOPARDY
NOMINEE AND A TWIST TO IT.
BECAUSE.
I KNOW PERSONALLY THAT I FEEL
VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE LIFE
ISSUE AND I MY WIFE AND I DONATE
TO PRO LIFE CROSSES.
PRO LIFE MINISTRIES FOR THE
SPECIFIC PURPOSE PURPOSE OF
RESPECTING LIFE. SO IF ARI TURN
AROUND.
IN GOT THIS THERAPY AND I WAS SO
DELIGHTED WITH IT.
I MADE A SIZEABLE DONATION TO
THAT MINISTRY.
AND THAT'S A LICENSED PROVIDER.
WHO GAVE ME THAT MENTAL HEALTH?
WITH THE ACT. NOW.
WHAT WITH THE FALL WITH THIS
LAW?
IT.
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND AS
YOU KNOW THAT.
AGAIN IF YOU'RE.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO IF IT'S A
DONATION AGAIN IF IT'S A
DONATION AND THE PURPOSE IS NOT
TO RECEIVE AGAIN THAT THE
DOLLARS ARE NOT TO RECEIVE. THE
SEXUAL ORIENTATION CHANGE
EFFORTS AND THERE'S NO NEXUS
BETWEEN. THE PAYMENT PROVIDED
AND THE SERVICE RECEIVED.
ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHER
LEGAL SERVICES. ARE THAT WE HAVE
PROHIBITED ADVERTISING FOR IN
CALIFORNIA.
LIKE THIS ARE THERE IS THIS IS
THIS.
I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING SO.
USERS SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT WE ARE SO THAT THE LEGAL
SERVICE THAT WE NO LONGER
ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE.
SO THERE'S A LIST OF ABOUT
TWENTY SEVEN.
ITEMS UNDER THE CONSUMERS LEGAL
REMEDIES ACT.
THAT HAVE BEEN DEEMED BY THE
LEGISLATURE TO BE DECEPTIVE OR
FRAUDULENT.
THAT'S THE AGAIN THE ACT THAT
THIS WITH THOSE ARE LEGAL
SERVICES THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING
OF.
LEGAL SERVICES ARE WHAT WE
ESTABLISH A CONVERSION THERAPY
IS A LEGAL SERVICE NO THAT'S NOT
WHAT IT SAYS THERE ARE UNLAWFUL
SERVICES UNDER.
SEVENTY TWO. PERCENT SEVENTEEN
TWO HUNDRED THIRTY TWENTY SEVEN
DIFFERENT KINDS OF. BUSINESS
TRANSACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
DEEMED TO BE FRAUDULENT.
AND THUS. FALL UNDER THAT
PROVISION SO THAT'S THAT'S THE
QUESTION THERE AREN'T
NECESSARILY LEGAL SERVICES THEIR
SERVICES THAT ARE DEEMED. TO
FALL WITHIN THE UNFAIR BUSINESS
PRACTICE WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS.
AND IF I MAY UM TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION IF YOU MAKE A
CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR CHURCH
THAT'S CONTRIBUTION THAT'S NOT A
PAYMENT THERE'S A DISTINCTION TO
BE DRAWN SO. I THINK THAT
ANSWERS THAT QUESTION AND THEN
PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE IS IF SOMEONE WERE TO HOLD
THEMSELVES OUT AS TO BE ABLE TO
CHANGE YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
THAT IS WHAT THE ISSUE IS IN
THIS BILL IF YOU MAKE THOSE
REPRESENTATIONS IF YOU MAKE A
PROMISE THAT YOU CAN CHANGE
SOMEONE'S SEXUAL. ORIENTATION
AND DO SO FOR COMPENSATION THAT
IS THE NARROW. RESTRICTION
WITHIN THIS BILL THAT WOULD THEN
BRING INTO PLAY.
THE UNFAIR BUSINESS PRACTICES
PROVISION. SO THAT SHOULD ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION SO WITH THAT. I AM
SURE NO WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO
WE'RE GOING TO EXCUSE ME WE'RE
GONNA ALLOW WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW
SENATOR LOTT LOW TOO EXCUSE ME
EXCUSE ME WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW
SENATOR WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW
SEDIMENT LOAD TO CLOSE AND THEN
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW HIM TO
CLOSE EXCUSE ME ALRIGHT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE A. PROCESS BUT
YOU'LL ALLOW SENATORS TO SPEAK
NOW I WANT YOU HAVE ASKED MANY
QUESTIONS SENATOR. OUR ISSUE
EVERYONE SHOULD AND GLAD YOU
FLUSH THE YOU HAVE HAD THE LAST
QUESTION YOU WERE THE LAST ONE
TO SPEAK. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUICK
QUESTION WILL DO BUT OTHERWISE
IT'S FOUR O'CLOCK WE HAVE TWELVE
OTHER BILLS TO DO WE HAVEN'T
GIVEN THIS A GOOD DEAL OF
HEARING. ONE QUICK QUESTION SIR
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO ON
AND HAVE THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
CLOSE.
SENATOR ANDERSON.
SADLY I HAVE NOW FORGOTTEN IT.
WELL.
PERHAPS THERE'S A.
SO I DOUBT I'LL WRITE QUICKLY
QUICKLY SIR.
ACTUALLY I MEAN I'M SURE YOU
MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS.
SO IF YOU HAVE.
THOSE OTHER TWENTY SEVEN ITEMS
ARE THOSE HER.
UNLAWFUL ACTS THIS IS THE FIRST
TIME I BELIEVE.
THAT THIS IS A LAWFUL PRACTICE
WE DON'T BAN IT WOULD BE AN
AFFRONT TO EIGHTEEN YEAR OLDS
BUT WE DON'T PANIC. FOR.
OVER EIGHTEEN.
WOULD THIS BE THE FIRST TIME
THAT WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED IN IN
LOOK I GET THAT. NO ONE SAYS I'M
GONNA CURE YOU'RE CUTER YOU FROM
DRUG ADDICTION NO ONE SAYS A
GONNA CURE YOU FROM ALCOHOLISM
BECAUSE IT'S A CONSTANT BATTLE
YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. YOU NEVER GET
CURED YOU ALWAYS WORK TO BE
AHEAD OF IT.
SO THE QUESTION IS IF A PERSON.
OFFICES THOSE SERVICES.
WOULD THEY STILL BE ALLOWED TO
OFFER THOSE SERVICES OR SINCE
THE FIRST TIME. THAT WE'VE HAD
SOMETHING THAT IS LEGAL.
IN PROVIDING.
OVER EIGHTEEN YEAR OLDS. BY TWO.
ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE
WELL I THINK THE DISTINCTION
HERE IS WE'RE MAKING THIS AN
UNFAIR BUSINESS PRACTICE THAT
COMPLIES UNDER THE PROVISIONS
OF.
THIS SEVENTEEN TWO HUNDRED.
YEAH AND THANK YOU AND THAT IT
ALSO IS A PART OF THE REASON
THAT THIS BILL PACKED BELIEVE
IT'S BEEN BROUGHT NO ASK YOU TO
CLOSE WITH THAT. IS THAT THE
DATA ALL SHOWS MEDICALLY THAT
THAT THAT THESE PROMISES OF
SEXUAL A CHANGING OF SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
ARE AND DO DAMAGE THAT THEY ARE
THERE'S NO.
MEDICAL BASIS FOR THAT
REPRESENTATION WHICH IS THE
REASON THIS IS BEING BROUGHT IN
WITH THAT I'M GOING TO ALLOW THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TO CLOSE I'VE
GOT TO GO VOTE THE. MIKE OTHER
HEARING THAT I AM IN IS ABOUT TO
CLOSE AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO.
VOTE ON THAT I THINK WE'VE HAD A
VERY ROBUST HEARING I WANT TO
THANK EVERYBODY YOU HAVE BEEN
INCREDIBLY RESPECTFUL I TOO WANT
TO SHARE.
I THINK WE ALL ADMIRE THE FACT
THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE OF
IMPORTANCE TO YOU I BELIEVE THAT
WE HAVE CLARIFIED THIS SO THAT
AT LEAST NINETY NINE PERCENT OF
THE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR ABILITY
TO.
TO PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION TO
READ THE BIBLE TO DO THOSE
THINGS. SHOULD BE RESOLVED. IN
WITHOUT ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOW YOU
MAY CLOSE. A THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS I
APPRECIATE THAT DIALOGUE THAT
YOU. HAVE ALLOWED ME TO TO
ENGAGE WITH US AS YOU KNOW WE'VE
COME HERE OUT WITH SIGNIFICANT
SERVITUDE. AND I COME HERE
HUMBLING RESPECTFULLY IN TALKING
TO YOU ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT IS
VERY PERSONAL TO ME. AND WHICH
WE ATE ALL GROWN UP MEMBERS OF
THE HOUSE TO DROP ALL THE TIME
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INTERNET.
BACK THEN I HAD NO ONE TO TALK
TO AT HOME NO ONE TALKED ABOUT
THAT THIS IS SCHOOL. AND TRYING
TO FIND A SENSE OF IDENTITY I
FOUND MYSELF ONE AROUND
AIMLESSLY THROUGH BARNES AND
NOBLE TRYING TO MAKE. SENSE OF
WHAT IT MEANT TO BE L. G. B. T..
SENSE AND THOUGHTS OF CONTINUED
SUICIDE AND LOOKING FOR
ACCEPTANCE. AND WHILE WE TALK
ABOUT THE RECOGNITION. THAT THIS
IS INDEED A HARMFUL. AND
HURTFUL.
TWO INDIVIDUALS. NEED TO BE
RECOGNIZED AND OUT OF THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA LET'S CALL IT WHAT
IT IS OF FRAUDULENT PRACTICE. OF
THE CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT
WE WE HAVE ALREADY RECOGNIZED AS
STATE POLICY CERTAIN. ACTS THAT
ARE HARMFUL TO INDIVIDUALS. HAND
EVEN IF CALIFORNIA'S WISH TO
SEEK OUT. SUCH CONVERSION THEY
STILL ARE ABLE TO DO SO.
BUT WITH NO FINANCIAL
TRANSACTION.
THIS IS ABOUT AN ISSUE OF
LEADING WITH LOVE. AND I THINK
THIS IS OFTEN TIMES LOST IN THAT
CONVERSATION. THAT UNDER THE
CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT
CURRENTLY.
CURRENTLY UNDER THE CONSUMER
LEGAL REMEDIES ACT. THERE'S A
SECTION THAT SAYS REPRESENTING
THAT APART. A REPLACEMENT OR
REPAIR SERVICE IS NEEDED WHEN IT
IN FACT IS NOT.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ME.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH
MEMBERS OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY WE
SHOULD BE LOVED WHICH SHOULD BE
CELEBRATED AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
WE SHOULD BE CHERISHED. AND WITH
THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A
VOTE.
THANK YOU SO BANAL WITH THAT.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED. DO PASS TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. A
MOTION WAS MADE BY SENATOR
MINING WITH THAT MADAM SECTOR
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. JACKSON BY
JACKSON I AM MORE LOOK. MORE
LIKE NOTE ANDERSON. ANDERSON NO
HERTZBERG. HERZBERG I AM
MORNING.
MOURNING I STERN. STERN BY.
WHITE HOUSE HE. BARTER FOR DUE
TO LEAVE THEIR PHOTO OPEN FOR AS
SENATOR WHY CASKEY THANK YOU ALL
VERY MUCH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A
RECESS WHILE WE CLEAR THE ROOM
IT WILL HEAR OUR NEXT BILL IN
ABOUT TEN MINUTES THANK YOU ALL
FOR BEING HERE.
OKAY THANKS
THIS FAMILY MEMBER AND I
UNDERSTAND YOU ARE TAKING THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT ARE
DETAILED. IN THE ANALYSIS THANK
YOU AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO
PROCEED.
SURE SIR. I AM HERE TO PRESENT A
B. TWELVE EIGHTY NINE I'D LIKE
TO START BY ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE SUGGESTED IN
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS. AB
TWELVE EIGHTY NINE IS A
TECHNICAL BUILD THAT UPDATES
DEFINITIONS IN THE CIVIL CODE
RELATED TO THE TRANSFER OF REAL
PROPERTY AND REAL ESTATE.
DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS I'D LIKE
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF AND
THE STAKE HOLDERS THAT HAVE
SPENT EXTENSIVE HOURS
NEGOTIATING THE LANGUAGE. I
REMAIN COMMITTED TO WORKING OUT
THE DEFINITIONAL PROBLEMS THAT
THE COMMITTEE STAFF HAVE
IDENTIFIED AND WILL WORK WITH
THE SPONSORS TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS RAISED BY THE STAFF. AB
TWELVE EIGTY NINE ATTEMPTS TO
UPDATE AND MODERNIZE REAL ESTATE
LAW PROVIDING GREATER CLARITY TO
CONSUMERS AND PRACTITIONERS.
REGARDING TERMINOLOGY
DEFINITIONS AND EXISTING
PRACTICES. IT CONSOLIDATES TERMS
SO THAT THE USAGE IS MORE
UNDERSTANDABLE SUCH AS REPLACING
TRANSFER WITH SELLER. IT REMOVES
ARCHAIC TERMS REPLACING THE
CONFUSING TERM SELLING AGENT
WITH AN AGENT OF THE BUYER. AND
IT MAKES NON CONTROVERSIAL
AMENDMENTS TO CLARIFY ISSUES
WITH EXISTING DISCLOSURE LAW. WE
WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE IN THE SENATE BANKING
AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS
COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT ANY
CONCERNS ABOUT DEFINITIONS ARE
ADDRESSED AND THAT THESE UPDATES
TO THE CIVIL CODE SECTION OR NON
CONTROVERSIAL IN NATURE.
IN SUPPORT AND TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I HAVE
SUNDAY WAGGLE FROM THE REALTORS
ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THERE IS NO
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL
BASICALLY OF. THE CONCERNS SAID
THAT YOU'VE ARTICULATED
IDENTIFIED WITH THE CONCERNS.
THAT WE HAD AND OTHER THAN THAT.
I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE
SUPPORT ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS
ISSUE AND.
THAT WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR MOORE LOCK THIS TIME.
THE SYSTEM.
WE'VE GOT HIM IN A GOOD MOOD
OKAY ALL RIGHT.
AND.
THERE'S A MOTION.
DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR
FURTHER DEBATE LESS ANYONE HAS A
QUESTION. WITH THAT LET'S SIR
MADAM SUPPORTERS. ANY THAT'S A
GOOD POINT THANK YOU BECAUSE I
THINK ALL THE SUPPORTERS AND
OPPONENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE
AND THE AND SPOKEN IN OF LEFT
BUT IN CASE OR ANY RESIDUALS OR
IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY HERE. ON
FILE ITEM THREE AB TWELVE EIGHTY
NINE IF THERE ARE ANY WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO SENATE BANKING AND FINANCIAL.
INSTITUTIONS COMMITTEE.
I AM SEXUALLY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL JACKSON. JACKSON I AM MORE
LOOK. MORE LIKE I ANDERSON.
HERTZBERG. RUNNING. MINING I
STERN. LIKE ASKING THE BILL HAS
THREE VOTES WILL PUT IN A CALL
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
INDULGENCE APPRECIATED. PART WE
HAVE.
.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON HERE.
I'M SORRY WHO'S HERE. HOPE
MISTER GORE IT HAS APPEARED
THANK YOU SIR.
FILE ITEM TO.
AB TWELVE FORTY EIGHT.
WE'LL TAKE A MINUTE AND LET THE.
WITNESS ISN'T SUPPORT COME UP
AGAIN TWO MINUTES TO TESTIFY TWO
MINUTES EACH AND SUPPORT AND.
.
GOOD AFTERNOON BETTER YOURS
YOURS BABYSITTER I'LL BE BRIEF
IN AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE
NIGHT TIME YOU'VE ALREADY
INVESTED IN THIS COMMITTEE
HEARING.
THIS BILL THE MILK MILIEU TO
MANY OF YOU BECAUSE YOU VOTED
UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE IT LAST
YEAR. THIS CONTINUES TO BE AN
ISSUE. AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK
MY OFFICE WAS CONTACTED BY A
YOUNG PERSON WHO.
WAS DENIED THE ABILITY WHERE
HIS EAGLE FEATHERS AS GRADUATION
CEREMONY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'VE
COME BACK HERE WITH A DIFFERENT
VERSION OF THE BILL BUT AS YOUR
EXCELLENT COMMITTEE NOW SAYS
NOTES. APPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
IT STANDS ON VERY WEAK GROUND.
WHAT MY TEACHER THIS POINTS TO
GO BEFORE WE GO TO GOVERNOR WITH
YOUR STRONG ENDORSEMENT I'D ASK
FOR HIS SUPPORT IN ACTUALLY
RESOLVING THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE
CONTINUING TO SEE EVEN IN THIS?
TIME OF GRADUATION CEREMONIES
RESPECTFULLY ASK I BOTH HAVE TO
WITNESS IS HERE TO PRESENT
BRIEFLY THANK YOU WITNESSES IN
SPORT IF YOU WOULD BE BRIEF. BUT
THE BEACH BEFORE. THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS KEVIN
BAKER FOR THE AMERICAN CIVIL
LIBERTIES UNION OF CALIFORNIA
OTHER COMMITTEE KNOWS ITS WAY
AROUND THE FIRST MINUTE VERY
WELL AS. EVIDENCED BY THE RECENT
DISCUSSION ON WE ARE HERE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL WE THINK IT
WOULD BE USEFUL TO CODIFY WOULD
ESSENTIALLY FIRST AMENDMENT
PRINCIPLES. IN THIS PROVISION OF
THE AD CODE TO GIVE APPROPRIATE
GUIDANCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE
THE EDUCATORS ADMINISTRATORS
TEND TO LOOK AS OPPOSED TO THE
VOLUMES OF.
CASES TO YOU ALL GRAPPLE WITH.
I'M SO WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE
CLARIFICATION INCURRED IN
CONSTRUCTION FROM MEMBERS AND WE
ARE ASKING FOR. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS THE
COMMITTEE APOLOGY YOU THINK IT
EVER DID BEFORE APOLOGY ON
BEHALF OF BOTH THE CHALLENGE AND
THE CALUSA TRIBES. IN WHOLE
HEARTEDLY SUPPORTING AS SOON AS
WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IT FOR
PATROLLING IN PARTICULAR AND
LOSES ALSO FACE SIMILAR THINGS.
IS THAT WE HAVE GILLAM AND MOST
OF THE GOOD. TRIBES CONSIDER THE
GRADUATION A RIGHT OF PASSAGE.
AND THEY HAVE A SASH IN THE CASE
OF PATROLLING THE THAT IS MADE
BY TRIBAL ELDERS THEY WEAR IT
WITH PRIDE. A LOT OF TRIED TO
GIVE AN EAGLE FEATHER THERE BEEN
CASES WHERE SOMEONE HAS WALKED
UP AND RIP THAT OUT OF A
PERSON'S HAIR RIGHT WHEN THEY
WERE PICKING UP A DIPLOMA. SO
THIS ISN'T A CLUB THAT THEY
BELONG TO IT IS A TRUE PART OF
CULTURAL HERITAGE FOR FOR
TRIBES.
ON WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
SETTLED IN THE CASE OF THE
JUNGLE ONE YEAR THEY'LL SAY WELL
IT'S LOCATED WHERE THE SASH OR
THE FEATHER AND THE NEXT YEAR
THE FOLLOWING. CHILD OF THE SAME
FAMILY WE TOLD NO YOU MAY NOT
WEAR THAT WHICH IS JUST
RIDICULOUS SO WE CAN. GET SOME
SETTLEMENT ON THIS IT WOULD MEAN
A LOT TO THE TRIBES I WOULD
ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO
GO ON TO A GOOD BILL THAT
SUPPORTS TRIBES WOULD BE A GOOD
ONE TO JOIN IN ON.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SPORT NAME AND AFFILIATION ONLY
PLEASE PAMELA PAMELA LOPEZ ON
BEHALF OF THE SALMON WELL BAND
OF MISSION INDIANS THE RING
CONVENT OF LOUIS SAYINGYOU
INDIANS. THE TULE RIVER TRIBE
AND THE SHINGLE SPRINGS BAND OF
ME WALK INDIANS AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ADAM CHAIRS SET BRAMBLE HERE ON
BEHALF OF MORE THAN THREE
HUNDRED THOUSAND EDUCATORS THE
MEMBERS OF THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS ASSOCIATION AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
REBECCA GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
MELISSA OR NOT WE HAVE OF THE
WILTON RANCHERIA AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
THIS LAND FROM CALIFORNIA TRIBAL
BUSINESS FINDS HIM SUPPORT THANK
YOU.
ROXANNE ABOUT MOMMY ON BEHALF OF
THE HOUSE UPPER LAKE. RAMONA AND
CREEP TRIBES IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IS IN SUPPORT TOURNEY
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS BUT
THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE. TO.
MAKE IT TODAY IS THAT THE.
THE HEALTH OF HEALTH CAN.
JUST THE ALRIGHT. WITH THE
OPPOSITION WAS UNABLE TO APPEAR
THEIR OPPOSITION IS NOTED IN THE
BILL. OR IN THE ANALYSIS OF THE
BILL.
IT'S MY HOPE THAT THEY WILL.
EXPAND THEIR VIEW OF.
WHAT IS APPROPRIATE TO WEAR AT
A GRADUATION I THINK OF SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT? MANY OF US HAVE
SEEN ON THE CAPS OF SOME OF OUR
GRADUATES AND OTHER THINGS AND.
TWO WERE A FEATHERED TO DO
SOMETHING THAT RESPECTS ONE'S
CULTURE TRADITION RELIGIOUS
BELIEFS A. CERTAINLY IN TODAY'S
WORLD SEEMS APPROPRIATE AND SO.
THAT WILL JUST NOTE THAT THERE
IS SOME OPPOSITION THAT THE IF
YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
READ THE.
THE THE VERY THOROUGH ANALYSIS
OF MY HOPE IS THAT THE GOVERNOR
ALSO.
RECOGNIZES THAT THE STANDARD
THAT IS BEING SOUGHT HERE IS ONE
THAT.
DOES DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
INDIVIDUAL.
EXPRESSION AND THE EXPRESSION
THAT REFLECTS THAT OF THE SCHOOL
ONE IS THE TANKER CASE I CAN'T
REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE AT THE
MOMENT BUT. HOPEFULLY.
THE THE OPPOSITION TO IF THERE
IS ANY CONTINUE CONCERNS CAN BE
RESOLVED BUT THE I THINK YOU'RE.
MOVING THIS DEFINITELY IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION COM AND
APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT IF THERE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SENATOR
MORLOCK.
SERMON GLORIOUS IS THE BILLS
IDENTICAL TO THE OLD BILL WHAT'S
THE SECRET SAUCE WHAT'S GOING TO
BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME.
PERSUASION IN YOUR VOTE SENATOR.
I VOTED FOR LAST TIME WELL
MAYBE I SHOULD GO NOW. IF YOU
COULD.
WELL. IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
YOU KNOW I THINK THE VETO
MESSAGE FROM THE GOVERNOR.
WAS APPRECIATED IN TERMS OF AN
UNDERSTANDING HIS HIS VIEW ON
THIS ISSUE IF YOU HAVE IT THERE
IN FRONTOF YOU. SOURCE AT TWO
THINGS ONE IS THIS IS A
PROTECTED BY THE FIRST
AMENDMENT.
AND THAT THESE DECISIONS ARE
BEST DECIDED BY THE LOCAL
OFFICIALS.
WHY APPRECIATE HIS AFFIRMATION
FOR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO
EXERCISE THIS FACT THE MATTER IS
MANY OF THEM CANNOT?
AND LOCAL OFFICIALS ARE
PRECISELY THE ONES TO PREVENTING
THE FREE EXERCISE OF THE FIRST
NAME RIGHTS OF THE STUDENTS SO.
WE'RE COLLECTING ADDITIONAL
TESTS STORIES I MENTIONED I
WANTED JUST A SINNER ANDERSON'S
DISTRICT I JUST THIS PAST WEEK.
YOU KNOW AS WE ADD TO THIS IT
IS A CONTEMPORARY ISSUE IT'S NOT
A TEXTBOOK.
THIS IS STILL HAPPENING DESPITE
IT MAY BE CONTRACTED BY THE
CONSTITUTION AND LOCAL OFFICIALS
ARE NOT GETTING IT RIGHT WHICH
IS PRECISELY WHEN THE STATE
SHOULD GET INVOLVED. MY HOPE IS
THAT WITH YOUR STRONG VOTE
COUPLED WITH THIS ADDITIONAL
DATA PERHAPS WE CAN BE
PERSUASIVE TO THE COVER NOW THAT
WE UNDERSTAND HIS REASONING
WHICH. IS I THINK FEAR OF
ANOTHER FLIGHT TO THE REALITY
WELL THANKS FOR TWISTING MY ARM
ALL A A MOVE. THAT THE BILL
MANAGER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS.
ASSEMBLYMAN IF YOU'D LIKE TO
CLOSE I WOULD TAKE WHAT YOU SAID
IS A CLOSE BUT I WOULD JUST ONE
EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO
STAFFORD EXCELLENT ANALYSIS AND
I RECOMMEND ANYONE TO READ IT
WAS QUESTIONS WITH THIS BILL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WE HAVE A
MOTION THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE SENATE FLOOR. RESEARCHER
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL JACKSON
HIGH JACKSON I AM MORE LOOK MORE
LIKE I ANDERSON ANDERSON I HURTS
BURN. MINING MORNING I STERN BY
CASKEY.
BUT THE BILL HAS FOUR VOTES WE
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN FOR TWO
MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
TAKING A CHANCE.
NEXT WE HAVE ASSEMBLYMAN MARA
SUCI.
GOOD AFTERNOON ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WE. HEAR FILE ITEM FIVE. AB
SEVENTEEN NINETY SIX.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND
PROCEED YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MADAM CHAIR SENATORS I AM HERE
TO PRESENT AB SEVENTEEN NINETY
SIX.
MODEST MEASURE WHICH SEEKS TO.
FINISH SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS
FROM AN EARLIER BILL THAT I HAD
TO INTRODUCE AND GOT SIGNED INTO
LAW. A TO ALLOW. TENANTS IN RENT
CONTROLLED UNITS TO INSTALL
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
STATIONS IF THEY'RE WILLING TO
PAY FOR ALL THE COSTS OF THE
INSALLATION. THIS IS A WIN WIN
FOR THE TENANTS THAT ALLOW THEM
TO. TO.
INSTALL.
EVEY CHARGING STATIONS AS THE
WIND FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER THE
LANDLORD AND THAT THE THEIR
PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE ENHANCED
WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE
CHARGING STATION. AND OF COURSE
IT'S A WIN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
AND FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE
EASY ANSWER INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH
WE SO DESPERATELY NEED IN ORDER
TO GET. MORE EDIE'S ONTO OUR
ROADS FIGURED I UNDERSTAND YOU
ARE. ACCEPTING AS AUTHORS
AMENDMENTS THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS TO IT DETAILED IN THE
ANALYSIS. VERY GOOD THANK YOU
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IF YOU'D BE
BRIEF. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
CORBELS ON BEHALF OF ELECTRIC
VEHICLE CHARGING ASSOCIATION. IN
STRONG SUPPORT WE ARE
ASSOCIATION OF.
EVEY CHARGING STATION COMPANIES
THAT MANUFACTURE AND INSTALL
EASY CHARGING STATIONS. WE'VE
BEEN EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT
CALLS FOR TURNER FIFTY THOUSAND
EVEY CHARGING STATIONS BY TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE OF THAT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION HAS.
PROJECTED THAT A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY ONE THOUSAND OF THOSE HE
VIS ARE GOING TO BE IN MULTI
UNIT TO ALLEN'S AND THOSE ARE
REALLY TOUGH NUT TO CRACK IN
TERMS OF THE BARRIERS THAT ARE
THERE.
TO INSTALL EASY CHARGING
STATIONS. AND SO IT'S OUR
FEELING THAT REALLY THE STATE IS
GOING TO NEED INCREASINGLY TO
INCREASINGLY FOCUS ON REMOVING
THESE BARRIERS WHETHER ITS
REGULATORY PERMITTING FINANCIAL
OR OTHERWISE. WE THINK I'M AB
SEVENTEEN NINETY SIX IS A STEP
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND
MOVING US CLOSER AND CLOSER TO
REMOVING BARRIERS SO WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR OUT KATHY LYNCH
REPRESENTING PLUG IN AMERICA OR
TRYING TO PUT MORE EVEY. IS ON
THE ROAD WE WERE AT THE HONOR TO
WORK WITH THE ASSEMBLY MAN THE
FIRST GO AROUND ON THIS IS A
REALLY IMPORTANT STEP. WE NOTE
THAT.
INFRASTRUCTURE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE BIGGEST
BARRIER TO SOMEONE.
GETTING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND
ALSO MORE OR NOW ABOUT THE
WONDERFUL PLACE WHERE WE HAVE
ACTUALLY.
THE SECOND HAND MARKET OF OF
ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THIS IS A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY INTO THESE
COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO SELL
THESE VEHICLES AND THEY NEED
INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO IT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU BRIEFLY GOOD
AFTERNOON. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE ON A MISSION ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WEST
HOLLYWOOD THE CITY WAS TOUTED AS
ONE OF THE RENT CONTROLLED
CITIES THAT.
WAS EXEMPTED UNDER THE.
PRIOR TO IT EXISTING LAW.
OF THE CITY.
IN THE MEAN TIME.
ADOPTED ITS OWN ORDINANCE IN
ORDER TO FOR ITS RESIDENTS WHO
ARE IN MULTI FAMILY. UNITS TO
INSTALL IF YOU CHARGING UNITS WE
HAVE A CITY THAT HAS SEVENTY
PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE
RENTERS. AND WE HAVE AS OF NIGHT
TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN. OF FIVE
HUNDRED REGISTERED EASY VEHICLES
IN THE CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD.
SO WE ARE VERY PLEASED THAT THE
ASSEMBLY MEN. ALSO ADOPTED OUR.
REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO.
ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO.
IN FORCE OUR OWN ORDINANCE IN
CAN BE CONSISTENT BOTH WITH CAL
GREEN AND THE GOALS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE AND THAT THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NAME AND
AFFILIATION PLEASE MADAM CHAIR
JUST MILAN FOR THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL AND
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER WITNESSES.
ADAM RAN ON BEHALF OF SIERRA
CLUB CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SPORT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE. OF.
WE'LL BRING IT TO THE DYESS ANY
QUESTION SENATOR MORLOCK.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IF IT'S A
FOUR PLEX OR SIX BUCKS. AND
THERE IS NO INDIVIDUAL METERING
FOR THE. SIX UNITS.
THEN WITH THE FIRST TENET THAT
REQUESTED TO PUT IN. THIS
RECHARGING STATION WOULD THAT
PERSON HAVE TO THEN. DO ALL THE
ELECTRICAL METERING COST AS WELL
OR. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN
RESERVED EXEMPTION WHEN YOU HAVE
UNITS THAT?
DON'T YOU KNOW THEY JUST USE PAY
RENT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY
ELECTRIC BILL.
HARM AND NOT SURE WHAT THEY MEAN
BASICALLY THE.
THE THE THE BILL IS TO ALLOW FOR
THE INSTALLATION OF ANY
NECESSARY CHARGING EQUIPMENT IF
THE TENANT IS WILLING TO PAY FOR
IT. I AM I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE
POINT OF THE FOUR PLEX FOR
ASSISTING. IF IF IF THE OWNER OF
THE FOUR PLEX IS PAYING THE
ENTIRE ELECTRIC BILL. EVERY
MONTH AND NOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE
A.
AT AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE BECAUSE
THERE ARE NOT FOUR METERS AND
THAT FOR BLACKS IN. HOW DO WE
RESOLVE?
I HAD.
I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S FOR THE ALL
OF THE COSTS OF THAT WOULD BE
INCURRED.
INCLUDING ANY PROPORTIONAL I
DON'T KNOW IF FOR. THE CITY OF
WEST HOLLYWOOD HAS.
THE CHAIRS THAT ARE FOR THE CITY
OF WEST HOLLYWOOD THIS IT IS
VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT IF IT
IS AN ASSIGNED PARKING SPACE
THEN THE TENANT TO THAT A
ASSIGNED SPARKING PARKING SPACE.
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
COST OF THAT.
AND I WILL DOUBLE CHECK ON WHAT
THEY DO WHAT THE CITY DOES IN
TERMS OF A SHARED OF WHERE
ANYBODY COULD USE THE PARKING
SPACE.
BUT MOST OF THE SPACES I
BELIEVE ARE A SPECIFIC TO A
RESERVED SPACE FOR THE TENANT
AND THAT TEN IT WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST AND IT
IS. SEPARATE FROM THE RENT AND
IT'S VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE
FACT BECAUSE OF THE RENT
CONTROL.
IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE FACT
THAT THIS IS NOT INCORPORATED
INTO THE LEASE AND IT'S
SOMETHING SEPARATE.
AND IT'S A SEPARATE COST.
THE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
YEAH THERE'S SOME MOTION. BY
SENATOR MORNING I YET HAVE AN
ELECTRIC CAR WE'VE GOT IT
PLUGGED IN AT SUCH A JOINT TO
DRY BY THOSE.
THE GAS STATIONS AND KNOW THAT
THE.
I AM DOING AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT
OF A PART TO.
REDUCE MY DEPENDENCY ON FOSSIL
FUELS AND I THINK WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THAT AND.
.
IN FACT. IT SEEMS LIKE A THE
TENANT. WILL THEN HAVE TO LEAVE
THE CHARGING STATION BEHIND THE
LANDLORD GETS A FREE UPGRADE SO
I THINK THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR
EVERYONE IN. THE AMENDMENT
SIMPLY CLARIFY WHAT THE WAS
SOMEONE WIELDING LANGUAGE IN THE
BILL APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING IT
SO. WITH THAT WE DO HAVE A
MOTION DO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
SENATE FLOOR. MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON HIGH JACKSON I'M MORE
LOCK.
ANDERSON ANDERSON NO HERTZBERG.
MORNING MORNING EYES STERN BY
CASKEY WHAT CASKEY I OR DID BILL
HAS THREE VOTES WILL PLACE AN ON
CALL THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT UP IS OF. MR QUIRK ASSEMBLY
MEMBER COURT CASE FILE ITEM
EIGHT.
THIS IS ASSEMBLY BILL NINETEEN
EIGHTY.
BABY NINETEEN EIGHTY EXTENDS THE
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. FOR
COMMENCING CIVIL ENFORCEMENT FOR
ABOVE GROUND PETROLEUM STORY
JACK VIOLATIONS. FROM ONE TO
FIVE YEARS.
ONE YEAR STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS
IS INSUFFICIENT BECAUSE IT
TYPICALLY TAKES A YEAR OR MORE
TO COMPLETE INVESTIGATIONS.
INVOLVING STORY JACK VIOLATIONS.
THESE ARE COMPLEX INVESTIGATIONS
THAT OFTEN INVOLVE VIOLATIONS OF
MULTIPLE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS.
BILLS FOR PETROLEUM TANKS CAN
LEAD TO A HOST OF PROBLEMS FROM
CONTAMINATED SOIL AND DRINKING
WATER. TO INCREASED FIRE RISK.
STORY JACK WAS ENACTED IN
NINETEEN NINETY. THAT'S A DIRECT
RESPONSE TO THE SPILL OF OVER
FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS OF
PETROLEUM. FROM ABOVE GROUND
PETROLEUM TANKS INTO SENSITIVE
MARSHES AND THE BAY DELTA
ESTUARY.
AT THE. FIVE YEARS THE ABOVE
GROUND PETROLEUM STORAGE JACK
STATUE OF LIMITATIONS. WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH OTHER LAWS UNDER
THE UNIFIED PROGRAM WHICH
ENFORCING HATCH. HAZARDOUS
MATERIAL LAWS. BOB THIS PARITY
WILL. ENABLE PROSECUTORS TO
EFFECTIVELY INDOOR SEASON. CUSE
ME ENFORCE THESE IMPORTANT LAWS.
IN THE SAME MANNER AS THEY
CURRENTLY IN FORCE OTHER AREAS
ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. WITH ME
TODAY IS JUSTIN ALONG WITH
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF FIRE
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
ADMINISTRATORS AND HE'S HERE TO
TESTIFY AND I MAY HAVE ANOTHER
WITNESS.
YES I DO ALL RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD
WEATHER TO. GO AHEAD TO A TWO
MINUTES EACH OF THE MOST IF YOU
WOULD THINK MADAM CHAIR
ADJUSTMENT FOR THE COOP IS THE
UNIFIED PROGRAM AGENCY THE LOCAL
LEVEL. YES THIS BILL IS
NECESSARY AND THE AS I THINK
MANY OF YOU KNOW AND MADAM CHAIR
YOU'VE DONE ENOUGH OF. YOUR
SHARE OF COOPER BILLS. WE TRY TO
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES THROUGH
LOCAL ADMINISTERED TO BORDERS
THAT'S THE AUTHORITY THAT WE USE
MOST OF THE TIME. AND IN MANY
CASES BECAUSE THESE MATTERS CAN
BE COMPLEX IT TAKES LONGER THAN
A YEAR TO GO THROUGH THIS
ADMINISTER OF ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS. AS WELL AS WE HAVE THE
DUE PROCESS OF COURSE WE HAVE
DUE PROCESS SAID SOMEBODY
OBJECTS TO THE ADMINISTRATION
FOR SOME DAUGHTER THEY CAN THEY
CAN GO THROUGH THE DUE PROCESS
THE LOCAL LEVEL. THIS HAS
ARISEN.
IN A NUMBER OF CASES WHERE THE
WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT ONE YEAH
THIS MATTER HAS TO GO TO THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. AND THEN THEY
CONT. TAKE THIS MATTER UP
BECAUSE OF THE ONE YEAR LIMIT
ALL THE OTHER COOPER PROGRAMS DO
HAVE.
THE FIVE YEARS WE JUST WANT TO
STRESS THIS IS NOT RETROACTIVE
SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD
FROM OUR POSITION IS THAT WE CAN
RIGHT NOW RUN BACK TO ALL CASES
NOTE THIS IS MOVING FORWARD FROM
THE FIRST OF JANUARY NEXT YEAR.
SUBMERGE EITHER LET ME JUST SAY.
ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN.
HE.
.
I.
WE'LL BE STILL COVERED BY THE
BILL BUT IT'S PRIOR TO THE IF
THE BILL GOES INTO EFFECT.
THE STATUE OF LIMITATIONS ON
ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN.
WELL NOT EXPIRED THEREFORE
IT-WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FOUR
YEARS OKAY OFFER THAT BUT BEYOND
THAT YES WE WILL NOT GO BACK TO
ANYTHING IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN
EARLIER JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT
CLEAR.
NEXT WITNESS PLEASE AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS SHOT HOFFMAN
OF THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION ALSO HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF. ALAMEDA
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY NANCY
O'MALLEY.
JUST TO REITERATE OF THE POINTS
MADE BY SOMEONE AND CORK. THIS
REALLY DOES BRING THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS FOR THESE VIOLATIONS
INTO CONFORMITY WITH. SOME THE
OTHER HAZARDOUS WASTE STATUTES
THAT WE'VE SEEN.
CERTAINLY MAKES. OUR ABILITY TO.
PROSECUTE ALL THOSE FOLKS
ACCOUNTABLE HARM. EASIER AND.
IT ALLOWS US TO.
TO FULLY ENFORCE THE LAW IN
THIS AREA SO FOR THOSE REASONS
WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT NAME AND AFFILIATION
PLEASE. A COMEDY BUT THE COUNTY
OF LOS ANGELES BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
NO I NOTED THAT.
WE HAD NO OPPOSITION LISTED ON
THE ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE DID GET
SOME OPPOSITION CAME INTO DAY
WHICH IS LATE.
BUT IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
I'D SEEN NONE BRING IT TO THE
DYESS ANY QUESTIONS ARE MOVED
BUT W HEARD IN THE QUEUE. OKAY
VERY GOOD AND QUESTIONS FROM OUR
COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
THE AISLE NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. WE
HAVE A MOTION. BY A CENTER WHY
BECAUSE KEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE. I WANT TO THANK HIM.
SHAWN HOFFMAN FOR BEING A GUEST
EXPERT. AND TESTIFY ON OUR
BEHALF THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
THANK YOU SENATORS THANK YOU BY
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
SENATE FLOOR PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. JACKSON BY JACKSON I AM
MORE LOCK.
ANDERSON ANDERSON NO HERTZBERG.
MORNING STERN. WHAT CASSIE I MY
CASKEY I'VE?
HOSTED TWO VOTES TO ONE WE WILL
KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOUR.
OF. BEING HERE AND NEXT WE HAVE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER STONE FILE ITEM
NINE.
A B. TWO FULL FOR FOR.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE GOOD
AFTERNOON.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
SENATORS.
ALL TOO OFTEN WHEN KIDS ARE
INVOLVED IN CUSTODY DISPUTES
THEY END UP. BEING ABUSE WHETHER
IT'S CHILD ABUSE OR IT'S BEING
ABUSED BECAUSE OF WITNESSING
VIOLENCE IN THE HOME AND THE
CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL HAS
MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WHEN
KIDS WITNESS ABUSE THAT IS
ABUSING CARRIES. THEY CARRY WITH
THEM TRAUMAS FOR THE REST OF
THEIR LIVES. WHAT THIS BILL IS
TRYING TO DO IS PRIORITIZE CHILD
SAFETY THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES?
AND SO WE ARE CLARIFYING.
A NUMBER OF THINGS. CLARIFYING
AND STRENGTHENING U. PRESUMPTION
AGAINST PLACING A CHILD WITH A
BATTERER AND IN AND KIND OF
CLEANING UP SOME OF THE RULES
AROUND THAT WORD WERE.
CLEARING UP SOME OF THE CONFLICT
WITH IN IT WITH ANOTHER COUPLE
OF SECTIONS IN THERE. AND THAT
THE PERPETRATION OF CHILD ABUSE
SORT OF THROUGH DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE IS SOMETHING THAT THAT
HAS SUCH MENTAL EFFECT ON
CHILDREN IS SOMETHING THAT WE.
DEFINITELY NEED TO BE LOOKING
OUT FOR. THIS IS A DIFFICULT
ISSUE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH STAKEHOLDERS FOR MONTHS AND
MONTHS TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT
WE GET THIS RIGHT. BECAUSE
OFTENTIMES THEIR ALLEGATIONS OF
ABUSE THAT GETS THROWN AROUND IN
DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS. AT WHEN
SPECIALLY WHEN CHILDREN ARE
INVOLVED WE DON'T WANT THOSE TO
BE DETRIMENTAL THAT CHILD BUT.
WE NEED TO STEP UP AND ENSURE
THAT CHILDREN ARE IN FACT SAFE
AND THAT THAT VALUE IS CARRIED
FORWARD IN WHATEVER THE
DECISIONS ARE. THAT'S HOW THIS
BILL IS DESIGNED WE'VE MADE A
LOT OF AMENDMENTS ALONG THE WAY
TO REMOVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS
AND OPPOSITION SET UP AND
RAISED.
AGAIN TRYING TO CREATE A BETTER
ENVIRONMENT FOR THE SAFETY OF
CHILDREN IN THESE DECISIONS AND
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR EYES
OUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WITNESSES IN SPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS ERIN SMITH
I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND
CEO OF FAMILY VIOLENCE APPELLATE
PROJECT OR F. THAT.
WE ARE THE ONLY ORGANIZATION IN
CALIFORNIA DEDICATED TO
APPEALING CASES ON BEHALF OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS AND
THEIR CHILDREN. OUR WORK TO DATE
HAS RESULTED IN THIRTY ONE
PUBLISHED APPELLATE DECISIONS
INTERPRETING THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACT AND
OTHER CALIFORNIA FAMILY CODE
SECTIONS. DESIGNED TO PROTECT
SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
AND THEIR CHILDREN.
AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR STRENGTHENS
THE STATUTORY SCHEME ADDRESSING
THE CRITICAL NEED FOR SAFETY FOR
CHILDREN IN HOUSEHOLDS WITH THE
PERSON WHO PERPETRATES DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. THERE ARE FOUR PARTS
THAT I WILL ADDRESS BRIEFLY.
FIRST THE BILL ADDS TO THE LIST
OF RELATIONSHIPS THAT TRIGGER
THE FAMILY CODE SECTION THIRTY
FORTY FOUR. PRESUMPTION AGAINST
AWARDING CUSTODY TO A PERSON WHO
PERPETRATES DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO
INCLUDE ANYONE WITH WHOM THE
PERPETRATOR IS CURRENTLY IN A
RELATIONSHIP.
THIS IS COMMON SENSE SINCE IT IS
DETRIMENTAL TO CHILDREN TO BE IN
HOMES WHERE AN ADULT IS
PERPETRATING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SECOND AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR
CONTINUES TO SPECIFY THAT WHEN
JUDGES FIND THAT THE PRESUMPTION
IN SECTION THIRTY FORTY FOUR HAS
BEEN REBUTTED. THEY MUST GIVE A
BRIEF STATEMENT AND WRITING ARE
ON THE RECORD EXPLAINING THEIR
REASONING. GIVEN THAT
APPROXIMATELY NINETY PERCENT OF
LITIGANTS AND FIT CALIFORNIA
FAMILY COURTS HAVE NO ATTORNEYS
IT IS CRUCIAL THAT COURTS GIVE
SUCH EXPLANATION OF THE PARENTS.
FUTURE TRIAL COURT JUDGES
DEALING WITH THE SAME PARTIES
AND APPELLATE COURTS UNDERSTAND
THE BASIS FOR THE ORIGINAL
CUSTODY AWARD.
THIRD THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE
BILL REQUIRES THAT JUDGES MAKE A
DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OCCURRED
BEFORE MAKING A LONG TERM
CUSTODY ORDER.
WE SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT
BECAUSE IN TOO MANY CASES JUDGES
HAVE ISSUE LONG TERM CUSTODY
ORDERS BEFORE A MUCH LATER
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DETERMINATION.
THIS PRACTICE ENDANGERS CHILDREN
AND ADULT SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND SOMETIMES RESULT IN
PERPETRATORS OF ABUSE BEING
AWARDED CUSTODY EVEN AFTER A
DETERMINATION THAT DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE OCCURRED. BECAUSE
COURTS MAY SEEK TO MAINTAIN THE
STATUS QUO.
AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR ALLOWS THE
JUDGE TO CONTINUE THE CASE TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THE
PRESUMPTION AGAINST CUSTODY
APPLIES IN WHICH CASE TEMPORARY
CUSTODY ORDERS MAY BE ISSUED.
FINALLY THE BILL SPECIFIES THAT
WHEN NEW JUDGES RECEIVE TRAINING
ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS PROVIDED
FOR UNDER CURRENT LAW. IT'S SO
INCLUDE TRAINING ON THE
DETRIMENT TO CHILDREN FROM
RESIDING IN A HOME WITH A PERSON
WHO PERPETRATES DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. THERE IS A GREAT BODY
OF SOCIAL SCIENCE RESEARCH
DEMONSTRATING THIS DETRIMENT.
WITH MOST OF THE STUDY'S FINDING
THAT IN THIRTY TO SIXTY PERCENT
OF FAMILIES WHERE EITHER CHILD
ABUSE OR SPOUSAL ABUSE EXISTS
BOTH FORMS OF ABUSE ABUSE EXIST.
AND BILL MOVE THE BILL.
HE WOULD WRAP UP PLEASE YES WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
IT STEP FOR WITH YOUR NAME AND
AFFILIATION PLACE ON A VALENTINE
FROM CALIFORNIA PROTECTIVE
PARENTS ASSOCIATION IN FULL
SUPPORT THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
MY NAME IS WILL MINA HITTING
THEM WITH RAISE YOUR RIGHT TO
HAVE A CITIZEN DRIVEN CALIFORNIA
BALLOT INITIATIVE TO GIVE
PARENTS A RIGHT TO A JURY OPTION
TO STOP THE FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. OM I'M
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL I THINK
CALIFORNIA.
HAS A.
THE BILLS BEFORE US ON IN THEIR
BILLS THEY STATED THAT
CALIFORNIA HAS A COMPELLING
INTEREST TO PROTECT THEY SHOW
THAT THEY WERE NARROWLY
CONSTRUED BEFORE THEY PRESENTED
THEM TO THIS BOARD. ON AB TWENTY
FORTY FOUR AND CODE SECTION
THIRTY FORTY FOUR BOTH STATE
THAT JUDGES IN DIVORCE
PROCEEDINGS HAVE JURISDICTION
UNDER WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS A
STANDARD IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
THE CHILD. JUST WANT TO BRING
ATTENTION TO THIS BOARD THAT THE
BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD WAS
ENACTED OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO
WAS FOR JUVENILES. IT'S BEEN
BROADLY ON ENCOMPASS TO INCLUDE
PARENTS IN DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS
AND NOW IS USED AS A STANDARD. I
BELIEVE THAT THE AUTHOR OF THIS
BILL NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE
ORIGINAL CODE THIRTY FORTY FOUR
AND IS AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR AND
APPLY THE STANDARD OF STRICT
SCRUTINY. SUPPLY MUCH MORE
STRICT SCRUTINY TOO IS BILL WHAT
THAT REQUIRES IS THAT HE HAS TO
SHOW THAT CALIFORNIA HAS A
COMPELLING INTEREST IN ENACTING
THIS BILL. THAT IS MUCH MORE
NARROWLY FOCUSED THAN WHAT IT IS
AND. IT ACHIEVED THE GOAL OF
PROTECTING THE CHILD RIGHT NOW
WHAT I THINK MANY PEOPLE IN THE
AUDIENCE ARE AWARE OF I DON'T
KNOW IF THIS PANEL'S AWARE OF.
THAT THERE ARE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT
OF ABUSERS THAT COMING TO FAMILY
COURT THAT ARE THE ACCUSERS THEY
ACCUSE THE OTHER PARENT OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THEY GET
RESTRAINING ORDERS THE CHILDREN
ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM A FIT LOVING
PARENT. DOES NOT PROTECT THE
CHILDREN AT ALL TO BE HAVE A
PARENT REMOVED FROM THEIR LIVES
AND THEIR FAMILIES REMOVED FROM
THEIR LIVES.
.
SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO
IS TO CHANGE THIS BILL.
GO BACK THE CODE THIRTY FORTY
FOUR TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND
MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE
STRICT SCRUTINY OR REQUIREMENTS.
BECAUSE FAMILY RIGHTS.
THANK YOU FOR.
APPRECIATE YOUR TEST BLANKET
GOTHIC WE GET THE GIST OF IT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
NEXT WITNESS TWO MINUTES PLEASE.
ERNO DORY WITH UNITED FOR
FAMILIES.
AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR CODE SO YOU
KNOW YOU IF YOU WANT YOU CAN
COME SIT UP HERE YOU.
HE'S.
MY APOLOGIES YOU COULD ALSO HAVE
COME UP HERE I TELL YOU JUST
GIVING YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION
BUT IF YOU.
HAVE A STATEMENT YOU LIKED.
OKAY.
I'M.
FOR ALL THE REASONS REGARDING
STRICT SCRUTINY THAT THIS BILL
DOESN'T MEET. IT DOESN'T PRESENT
A COMPELLING INTEREST IT'S NOT
NARROWLY TAILORED AND IT IS NOT
THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS. OF
AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR SLASH CODE
THIRTY FORTY FOUR.
APPARENT WILL LOSE A CHILD
BASED ON ALLEGATIONS OF DOMESTIC
ABUSE NOT DOMESTIC ABUSE
NECESSARILY. AND.
BASED ON THESE ALLEGATIONS
YOU'LL GO YEARS WITHOUT SEEING
YOUR CHILD.
I HAVE NOT SEEN MY CHILD IN FOUR
YEARS BASED ON ALLEGATIONS.
CONSIDER THEIR FAMILY COURT IS
BASED ON HEARSAY AND JUDGES
OFTEN CANNOT DETERMINE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ABUSER
AND THE VICTIM. IF YOU
ACCIDENTALLY TAKE OUT THE
PROTECTIVE PARENT A CHILD IS
LEFT IN THE SOLE CUSTODY OF THE
ABUSER.
IT MAY SEEM LIKE COMMON SENSE
THAT YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN A DOMESTIC ABUSER AND A
VICTIM IN FAMILY COURT AND I'M
HERE TO TELL YOU IT IS NOT. IN
FAMILY COURT WE DID NOT HAVE THE
RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY DO WE DO
NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY
JURY. AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE
RIGHT TO A HEARING IN A TIMELY
MANNER.
SO WHEN ALLEGATION CO THIRTY
FORTY FOUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS
BROUGHT AGAINST YOU THERE IS NO.
TIME FRAME ON WHEN YOU WILL GET
A HEARING TO REBUT THE
PRESUMPTION YOU CAN GO YEARS
WITHOUT GETTING A HEARING IN
FAMILY COURT.
AB TWENTY FORTY FOUR CO THIRTY
FORTY FOUR HAS MANY FINANCIAL
INCENTIVES A DEFENDANT IS
EVICTED FROM THEIR HOME AND
LOSES A HUNDRED PERCENT PHYSICAL
AND LEGAL CUSTODY OF THEIR
CHILD.
A PETITIONER EAT IS USUALLY
ABSOLVED OF CHILD SUPPORT
SPOUSAL SUPPORT AND COMPENSATION
FOR THE HOME. THIS BILL ISN'T CO
THIRTY FORTY FOUR IS CALLED THE
SILVER BULLET BUT DIVORCE AMONG
SAVVY ATTORNEYS.
IF YOU TRULY WANT TO PROTECT
CHILDREN FROM DOMESTIC ABUSE.
YOU NEED TO BASE OF THIS ON A
FINDING OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
BASED ON FACTS IN EVIDENCE IN
CRIMINAL COURT IT CANNOT BE
BASED ON ALLEGATIONS. BASED ON
HERE HEARSAY BASED ON
PRESUMPTIONS IN FAMILY COURT
WHERE YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE A
RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT LOSING
A PARENT CAUSES CHILDHOOD TRAUMA
SO WE KNOW. YOU WILL LOSE A
PARENT WITH AB. TWENTY FORTY
FOUR CODE THIRTY FORTY FOUR
SHOULD MAKE YOU WILL THE COUNTRY
ARTISTS FROM. OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION WHETHER ANY OF THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION ARE ABLE
TO BRING IT BACK. TO THE DIETS.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE ARGUMENT
IS BASICALLY THAT YOU NEED TO
HAVE A CRIMINAL CONVICTION THAT
IT IS A. REQUIRES STRICT
SCRUTINY THAT'S NOT. THE LAW AS
I UNDERSTAND IT TODAY BUT I
WOULD LIKE YOU IF YOU WOULD
ASSEMBLY MEMBER STONE TO.
ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT.
TESE.
DETERMINATIONS ARE BASED UPON
SIMPLY ALLEGATIONS SO I'M
ASSUMING THAT.
THAT YOU CAN RESPOND TO A WITH
A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TO ENLIGHTEN
US HERE AS TO WHAT THE
REQUIREMENTS ARE WHAT FOR COURT
TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THE BEST
INTERESTS OF THE CHILDREN. BASED
UPON WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT
THERE IS A PRIORITY GIVEN TO.
THE FACT THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
HAS AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THEM.
THAT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN
CHEST.
AN ALLEGATION AT AM THAT'S TRUE
AND THAT'S WHY WHAT WHAT THE
BILL IS DOING IS SETTING UP A
PROCESS FOR THE COURTS TO LOOK
AT FACTS IN EVIDENCE. AS IT
MAKES ITS DETERMINATION IT'S
ALSO WHY WE'VE ADDED IN SOME
JUDICIAL TRAINING SO THAT THE
COURT IS BETTER EQUIPPED TO BE
ABLE TO TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS.
AT STAKE WHEN ALLEGATIONS ARE
MADE AND WHAT FACTS AND EVIDENCE
OR THERE. WE DO KNOW THAT.
REMOVING A CHILD OR MAKING A
BECAUSE HE DECISION IS SOMETHING
THAT SHOULD NOT IN IN IS NOT
LATELY DONE BECAUSE OF THE
IMPACTS FOR THAT CHILD. BUT YET
WHEN ITS PLACE WHEN A CHILD IS
PLACED WITH THE BATTERER IN EVEN
IN THIS CASE A BATTERER WHOSE
BATTERING NOT THE FORMER SPOUSE
BUT A NEW RELATIONSHIP.
THERE'S THAT'S A HOLE IN THE
EXISTING STATUTORY STRUCTURE SO
THAT THERE CAN BE A TIME WHERE
THAT CHILD IS PLACED WITH
SOMEBODY WHO IS BATTERING. BUT A
NEW PARTNER FOR EXAMPLE WE ARE
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
COURT HAS THE TOOLS THAT ARE
NECESSARY. TO HEAR EVIDENCE TO
HEAR THE SITUATION AS BEST THEY
CAN AND DETERMINE FOR THAT CHILD
WHERE THE SAFEST PLACES.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE
QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED THAT I
WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR DRESSING
IS.
THE THE CLAIM OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND THE IS WHAT I HEARD
WAS THAT. FREQUENTLY COURT MAKES
A DECISION BASED UPON SIMPLY AN
ALLEGATION.
AND IF YOU WOULD RESPOND TO.
WHAT THE COURT DOESN'T MEAN
SOMEONE SAYS I WAS THE VICTIM OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT? ALONE
DOESN'T SATISFY A COURT
PROCEEDING AS I UNDERSTAND IT IF
YOU COULD TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE
THE COURT IT ONCE IF WE WANT THE
COURT IN IT UNDER THIS BILL TO
MAKE A DECISION BASED ON FACTS
AND EVIDENCE SO IT'S MORE THAN
MERE ALLEGATIONS. BUT THERE'S
SOME EVIDENCE OF. THE SITUATION
AND THE THE THE SPOUSAL ABUSE
THE BATTERY IN ORDER FOR A COURT
TO MAKE SUCH A DRASTIC DECISION
LIKE THIS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO
GIVE THE COURT AGAIN TOOLS TO GO
BEYOND JUST THE ALLEGATIONS BUT
HAVE FACTS MAKE PRESUMPTIONS
BASED ON THOSE FACTS BASED ON
THE EVIDENCE. AS IT MAKES A
DECISION ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE
BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD AND
HOW THAT THE COURT WHICH WAY WE
WANT TO GIVE JUDICIAL
DISCRETION.
AND THE COURTS THE ABILITY TO
TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON
AS IT MAKES ITS DECISION BUT
BASED ON FACTS AND EVIDENCE
THANK YOU WITNESS. OF OTHER
QUESTIONS SENATOR BY CASTING SO
A FOLLOW UP IF THERE'S IF THERE
IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THERE'S
POLICE REPORTS THAT ARE FILED
AND THERE'S.
BY INVESTIGATIONS TO GO AND
THAT'S ALL. EVIDENCE IT CAN BE
USED IN THE FAMILY COURT PRIDE
IS THAT'S A THAT'S ADMISSIBLE
YOU YOUR WITNESS TALKED ABOUT
THE THIRD PRONG ABOUT HAVING A
TEMPORARY. CUSTODY ORDER BEFORE
YOU ACTUALLY GOT TO DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE DOESN'T THAT. HELP OUT
THE SITUATION IF THERE IS HAS
BEEN A MISTAKE WERE THE ABUSER
IS GOT THIS INITIAL.
DECISION BY THE COURT THAT THEY
COULD THAT THEY DON'T MAKE THE
FINAL DECISION AND THEY WERE
ABLE TO COME BACK AT LEAST
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD IS
ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE BILL.
WELL AND AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE.
SORT OF NARROWING DOWN ON THE
PRESUMPTION THAT THE COURT IS
MAKING WITH RESPECT TO DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND AND THERE'S A
REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION SO THAT
WE THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR A
HEARING AND AN INABILITY FOR THE
PARTIES TO BE ABLE TO COME AND.
BRING IN EVIDENCE AND EXPLAIN
THE SITUATION BETTER BECAUSE.
IN A COURT DRIVING OUTCOMES FOR
CHILDREN.
THANK YOU ARMS THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS HARD SEEING AND
HEARING NONE. OF IT WE HAD A
MOVE THE BILL WE HAVE A MOTION
BY SENATOR WHITE HOUSE KEY US
SOME WOMEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO
CLOSE I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. VERY
GOOD ALRIGHT THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. JACKSON BY
JACKSON I'D MORE LOCK.
ANDERSON ANDERSON I HURTS BERG
MORNING BY MORNING I STERN BUT
HAS HE. BY CASKEY I'VE. BOARD IS
HERE WILL LEAD THE ROLL UP AND
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR.
FOR BEING HERE.
NEXT IS A FILE ITEM ELEVEN AB
TWENTY NINETY BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
CONSOLES FLETCHER.
GOOD AFTERNOON AFTER A MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS.
FEDERAL LAW ALLOWS A PERSON
UNDER THE AGE OF TWENTY ONE TO
APPLY FOR LEGAL PERMANENT
RESIDENCY IF THEY'RE GRANTED
SPECIAL IMMIGRATION JUVENILE
STATUS OR SIG*. IN
CALIFORNIA MANY YEARS BETWEEN
THE AGES OF EIGHTEEN AND TWENTY
ONE WERE UNABLE TO ACQUIRE THE
FINDINGS FROM THE SUPERIOR COURT
NECESSARY TO OBTAIN S. I. J. S..
THIS WAS DUE TO THE INABILITY OF
PROBATE COURTS TO TAKE
JURISDICTION OF INDIVIDUALS OVER
THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN AND
ESTABLISH A GUARDIANSHIP OF
THESE PEOPLE.
IN TWENTY FIFTEEN EIGHTY NINE
HUNDRED BY MISTER LEVIN WAS
SIGNED INTO LAW TO ALLEVIATE
THIS ISSUE BY CREATING THE POPE
PROBATE GUARDIANSHIP FOR
UNMARRIED YEARS BETWEEN THE AGES
OF EIGHTEEN AND TWENTY ONE. WHO
SEEK THE UNDERLYING COURT
FINDINGS NEEDED? AFTER ENACTMENT
OF A B. NINE HUNDRED HOWEVER
THERE HAVE BEEN CONFUSION
REGARDING WHO CAN PETITION FOR
GUARDIANSHIP. IS UNCLEAR WHETHER
RELATIVE OR ANY OTHER PERSON
INTENDS TO INCLUDE PARENTS IN
SOME CASES A PARENT IS THE ONLY
RELATIVE THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL
HAS. THIS VAGUENESS IN STATUTE
HAS PREVENTED CERTAIN
APPLICATIONS FOR SI JAY ASKED
FROM BEING SUBMITTED DUE TO
UNCERTAINTY WHETHER GUARDIANSHIP
WILL BE ESTABLISHED WITH THE
PARENT AS THE PETITIONER. WHEN
GUARDIANSHIP IS NOT ESTABLISH
USE DOES NOT RECEIVE THE
NECESSARY FINDINGS AND IS
ULTIMATELY PREVENTED FROM
APPLYING FOR AND OBTAINING
IMMIGRATION RELIEF IS PUT AT
RISK FOR DEPORTATION. AB TWENTY
NINETY ADDRESSES THE AMBIGUITY
IN STATE LAW BY CLARIFYING THAT
A PARENT IS AN AUTHORIZED IS
AUTHORIZED TO FILE A PETITION
FOR GUARDIANSHIP. WITH ME TODAY
TO TESTIFY IS LISA OKAMOTO FROM
THE IMMIGRANT DEFENDERS LOSS AND
TO MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU IF
YOU BE BRIEF THERE IS I
UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN NO
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL THIS IS
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND SO
SHOULD BE BRIEF THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS.
THANK YOU TURN IT IN BOTH OF AND
YOU GOT IT AT MY NAME IS LISA
OKAMOTO AND THEN THEY MANAGING
INTERNET IMMIGRANT DEFENDERS LAW
CENTER WE REPRESENT MORE THAN
FIVE HUNDRED CHILDREN ANNUALLY.
INCLUDING AN ACCOMPANYING INORS.
AS THE ASSEMBLY WOMAN STATED AB
NINE HUNDRED DID ENACT A PROBATE
CODE THAT CURRENTLY STATES A
RELATIVE OR ANY OTHER PERSON ON
BEHALF OF A WORD WITH THE
CONSENT OF THE WAR CAN BE
APPOINTED AS GUARDIAN. WHAT AB
TWENTY NINETY PROPOSES TO DO IS
JUST TO CLARIFY IN INDICATE THAT
ANY PERSON OR RELATIVE ALSO
INCLUDES A PARENT? ANTI AB
TWENTY NINETY WILL ALLOW FOR A
LOVING PARENT TO CONTINUE TAKING
CARE OF IN IT A JEW NOW THAT MAY
BE OVER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN BUT
CONTINUES TO SUFFER. AND NEEDS
REHABILITATION FROM THE TRAUMA
THAT HE OR SHE HAS SUFFERED.
WITH THE RECENT A CHANGE IN
THEM AND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
THE PROTECTION OF THESE MINERS
ARE NEEDED AND THERE FOR AB.
NINETY WILL PROTECT A GREAT DEAL
OF HONORABLE CHILDREN AND
JUVENILES THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ARE THERE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. ANY
QUESTIONS FROM THE DARKNESS.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR WHY
KOWSKI. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FROM. ICING RESCUE FOR
AND I VOTE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
THE MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
FLOOR.
JACKSON BY JACKSON I AM MORE
LOCK.
ANDERSON. ANDERSON NO HERTZBERG
MORNING. MORNING I STERN BUT
BECAUSE HE AND I WERE CASSIE I
OR THE BILL HAS THREE VOTES WILL
LEAVE IT OPEN THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS A FILE ITEM
FIFTEEN BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER MAZE
EIGHTY TWENTY TWO ALL ONE.
YEAH.
GOOD AFTERNOON SIR.
AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
SENATORS.
NO CHILDHOOD VICTIM SHOULD HAVE
TO PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO
REMOVE THEIR ABUSERS NAME FROM
THEIR IDENTITY IF THEY WANT TO
MAKE A FRESH START. WHILE ONE
MAY CONSIDER CHANGING THEIR NAME
AS A MATTER OF SAFETY.
ADOLESCENCE MAY ALSO CONSIDER
NAME CHANGE AS PART OF THE
HEALING PROCESS. AB TWENTY TWO A
ONE IS A MODEST MEASURE THAT
WOULD WAIVE THE FEE FOR MINORS
IF THEY WISH TO CHANGE THEIR
NAME. AT OUR PARTICIPANTS OF THE
SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM AN ADDRESS
CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM THAT
PROTECTS VICTIMS FROM THEIR
ABUSERS. THE BILL WOULD ALSO
GRANT VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING THE SAME PUBLICATION
EXEMPTIONS DURING A NAME CHANGE
PROCEEDING THAT IS CURRENTLY FOR
THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
STALKING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. ONE
ISSUE SOMEONE VERY SPECIAL AND
HER NAME IS SYDNEY THIS BILL WAS
INSPIRED BY HER EXPERIENCE AND.
I SHOULD LIKE TO TELL OUR STORY.
THE NOON GOOD AFTERNOON SYDNEY
HOW ARE YOU.
GOOD CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR STORY
A COUPLE MINUTES.
GREAT THANK YOU HONORABLE
MEMBERS OF THE SENATE MY NAME IS
SYDNEY GRACE WOMEN AND THAT IS
WHY I AM HERE TODAY.
MY LAST NAME IS AFFECTING ME MY
WHOLE LIFE IT ASSOCIATES ME WITH
THE MAN WHO HURT MY FAMILY
THROUGH SEXUAL ABUSE. IT IS A
STATE MIGHT CARRY THROUGHOUT MY
LIFE A STIGMA THAT IS NOT
ALLOWED ME TO FULLY HEAL FROM
THE PAIN AND ANGER HE COST
MYSELF. MY SISTERS AS WELL AS MY
ENTIRE FAMILY. THE SHAME I FELT
THIS LAST NAME STOP ME FROM
PARTICIPATING IN MANY EVENTS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT OF WHICH WAS
A MISTAKE ABOUT HIS FATHER
SHOULD PAGEANT. I JUST CAN'T
BRING MYSELF TO WALK ACROSS THE
STAGE. AS THEY CALL THAT NAME
WE'VE BEEN I'VE JUST REALLY BEEN
TRYING TO HIDE FROM THE SAME FOR
YEARS. AFTER SILENTLY FEELING
THIS WAY FOR A LONG TIME I
FINALLY APPROACHED MY FAMILY
ABOUT WANTING TO MAKE THE LEGAL
LAST NAME CHANGE.
WITH THE HELP OF MY GRANDMOTHER
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS
OF MAKING MY DREAM A REALITY.
HOWEVER THERE BEEN CHALLENGES
AND OBSTACLES ALONG THE WAY.
IT HAS BEEN MORE COSTLY THAN WE
FIRST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. THIS
pREALIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY
MORE
CHILDREN OUT THERE WHO MAY BE
FEELING THE SAME WAY I DO BUT
ARE UNABLE TO AFFORD THE COST. I
AM BLESSED AND GRATEFUL TO HAVE
A GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS ABLE TO
HELP ME BUT OTHERS MAY NOT BE AS
LUCKY. I STAND HERE TODAY THANKS
TO SUPPLEMENT HAD MS WHO LISTEN
TO MY STORY AND AGREED THAT
CHANGES MUST BE MADE.
I AM HONORED AND SO VERY
GRATEFUL THAT HE NAMED THIS
BLOCKED ME FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY
HEART I'D LIKE TO THINK OF
ASSEMBLYMAN MAKES ALTHOUGH I
KNOW THIS LAW WILL NOT AFFECT
ME.
I AM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT I AM A
SMALL PART OF HELPING OTHER
VICTIMS. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT MY
MISSION IN LIFE TO CONTINUE
HELPING OTHERS. THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY I
HOPE YOU FIND IN YOUR HEARTS TO
PUT THIS BILL TO HELP OTHER
VICTIMS. IS NOT JUST A NAME
CHANGE IT'S A NEW BEGINNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILDER.
OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT IF
YOU WOULD BRIEFLY. THANK YOU
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
MY NAME IS DON WILLIAMS I'M A
MOTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER.
SIXTEEN YEARS AGO MY LIFE
CHANGED FOREVER WHEN MY SON IN
LAW FATHER TO TWO OF MY
GRANDCHILDREN AND STEPFATHER TO
ONE OF THEM WAS FOUND TO BE
SEXUALLY ABUSING THE GIRLS.
THEY WERE SIX THREE AND ALMOST
ONE. AT THE TIME.
IN THE BEGINNING WE HAD SOME
HELP FROM THE COURTS. BUT IT HAS
BEEN THE LOVE OF FAMILY AND
FRIENDS THAT HAS GOTTEN US
THROUGH MOST OF THIS HORRIBLE
AFTERMATH.
TWO WEEKS AGO THE THREE YEAR OLD
WHO IS NOW ALMOST NINETEEN.
TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE AND HER
LIFE WITH PALES IN CUTTING BOTH
HER ARMS.
THERE IS STILL MUCH TO BE DONE
TO HELP FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO
DEAL WITH A VERY DEEP SCARS THAT
ARE LEFT WHEN THIS HAPPENS.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'M SO
PROUD OF SYDNEY AND I'M SO
GRATEFUL SETTLEMENT MAZE. IS
HELPING US GET THIS LEGISLATION
SYDNEY IS NOT FRAGILE LIKE HER
SISTER BUT SHE HAS ANGER ISSUES.
SHE'S ANGRY THAT HER DAD HURT
THIS FAMILY SHE'S ANGRY THAT HER
SISTER IS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DEAL
WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED ANGRY
THAT SHE HAS THE LAST NAME OF A
MAN. SHE DOES NOT EVEN REMEMBER
A MAN WHO HAS EVER SENT HER A
BIRTHDAY OR CHRISTMAS CARD. AND
SHE'S MAD THAT SHE IS STUCK WITH
THE SAME NAME OF SOMEONE ON
MEGAN'S LAW LIST.
THIS IS JUST ONE SMALL STEP IN
HEALING BUT IT IS HUGE TO A
VICTIM AND I URGE YOU TO PASS
THIS LAW IN ANY FUTURE LAWS THAT
DEAL WITH THIS HORRIBLE
UNTHINKABLE CRIME. THAT AFFECTS
THE WHOLE FAMILIES AND LEAVES
LIFETIME SCARS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THEY'LL.
MOTION BY SENATOR MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I
KNOW WE ALL SHARE A DEEP CONCERN
ABOUT WHAT YOUR FAMILY'S GONE
THROUGH AND. CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING THIS
BILL FORWARD.
THE STORY LEAVE THESE THINGS
SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AND WHEN THEY
DO CERTAINLY THE LEAST WE CAN DO
IS BE HELPFUL IN. YOUR EFFORTS
TO HEAL AND GET ON WITH YOUR
LIVES IN SYDNEY THIS NO DOUBT
YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT YOU'RE
DOING IT ALREADY SO. WITH THAT I
WANT TO THANK YOU AND WE HAVE A
MOTION WHICH IS SAID TO PASS THE
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS. AND
SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. OR
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE JUST ONE
AS A MANAGER I KNOW THAT THIS
WAS GOING TO BE ON CONSENT ON I
THINK YOU FOR THE COURTESY OF
ALLOWING CITY TO TELL HER STORY
AND CERTAINLY THE REQUEST AND I
HOPE.
VERY GOOD WITH GLAD TO HAVE YOU
HERE SAID THE THANK YOU. CARD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON BY JACKSON I'M MORE LOOK
MORE LIKE I ANDERSON ANDERSON I
HURTS BERG. MINING MINING I
STERN CASKEY HEIGHT WEIGHT
CASSIE I FEEL HAS FIVE VOTES
WILL GET A COUPLE OF THOSE WHOM
WE CAN CORRAL THE REST OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THANK
YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE AND
THANK YOU SIMPLY MEMBER MEANS.
NEXT ITEM IS FILE ITEM SIXTEEN
AB TWO TWO TWO SEVEN BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FRIEDMAN.
THE WHOLE PLACE.
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND NOW FOR
SOMETHING MAYBE A LITTLE LIGHTER
NOTE. TODAY I PRESENT AB TWO TWO
TWO SEVEN IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A
PROCESS SIMILAR TO THE FEDERAL
PROCESS FOR NEW CAR SALES BY
WHICH A MOTOR FIVE CYCLE
MANUFACTURERS. AND DEALERS SELL
PROVIDED UNIFORMED TRANSPARENT
PRICING INFORMATION TO
CONSUMERS.
AB TWENTY TWO TWENTY SEVEN TRIPS
AT THE PRICE TAG ON MOTORCYCLES
IS CLEAR TO THE CONSUMER BY
INCLUDING THE MANUFACTURER'S
SUGGESTED PRICE BEEN NUMBER AND
THE SUPPLEMENTAL ADD ONS A
DEALER MAY INCLUDE. DESPITE THE
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT
REQUIREMENT THAT SUGGESTED
RETAIL PRICES BE A FIX IT
AFFIXED TO TWO NEW MOTORCYCLES
IN CALIFORNIA THERE'S STILL NO
STANDARD PRACTICE FOR HOW A
MOTORCYCLE. PRICES PRESENTED TO
THE PUBLIC AS A RESULT PRICES OF
MOTORCYCLE MAKE AND MODEL CAN
VARY GREATLY FROM DEALERSHIP TO
DEALERSHIPS STATEWIDE WHICH OF
COURSE CAUSES CONFUSION. AB
TWENTY TWO TWENTY SEVEN IS
SPONSORED BY THE MOTORCYCLE
DEALERS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE IT
IS A BENEFIT TO BOTH THE
CONSUMER AND A DEALER FOR
MANUFACTURERS PRICE AND THE
DEALERS ADD ONS TO BE DISPLAYED
IN A MANNER THAT THE PUBLIC HAS
THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN INFORMED
DECISION ABOUT MOTORCYCLE.
PRICING THE PRICING MODEL IS
MANDATED ON THE WIND CHILL OF
NEW CARS SOLD IN CALIFORNIA IN
THE FORM OF THE MARONEY STICKER
A TO BE UNIFORM FOR NEW
ASSEMBLED MOTORCYCLES IN
CALIFORNIA AT THE SAME WAY.
TESTIFYING TODAY IS JAMES ON
PART OF SENIOR REPRESENTING THE
MOTORCYCLE DEALERS ASSOCIATION
AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON
SIR TWO MINUTES OR LESS IF YOU
WANT THEM SURE MEMBERS THE
COMEDIANS OF OUR BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA MOTORCYCLE DEALERS
ASSOCIATION. THE AUTHOR QUITE
CLEARLY POINTED OUT I THINK HERE
WHERE THE MINORITY STICKER THAT
WE HAVE ON OUR CARS SINCE
MOTORCYCLES HAVE A WAY
WINDSHIELDS IT'S KIND OF
DIFFICULT SO WE DO A HANG TAG.
AND.
WITH THIS LAW'S BEEN ON THE
BOOKS SINCE NINETEEN SEVENTY
EIGHT BY SENATOR DEALS IT
REQUIRED THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
VEHICLES APPROVED HANG TAGS.
THEY HAD BEEN DOING IT TO BE
BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION TO
YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM
WE WERE HAVING. THEY CAME OUT
WITH A DRAFT.
HANG TAG THAT WE CAN USE.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE VIN
NUMBER HEAVEN NUMBERS YOU CAN
SEE ON THIS THING IS A NUMBERS
AND THINGS AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR
HAVING TO RIDE HIM DOWN YOU CAN
TRANSPOSE AND YOU CAN GET CAUGHT
FOR NOT. HAVING THE RIGHT ONE ON
THE RIGHT BIKE WE ALSO HAVE TO
ASSEMBLE MOTORCYCLES THEY COME
ALMOST AS BIG AS THIS TABLE HERE
WE HAVE TO PUT HIM TOGETHER
THERE'S ROOM OF SIXTY M. YOU
GOTTA MAKE SURE. THAT THE RIGHT
MOST TECH IS ON THE RIGHT
MOTORCYCLE SO THIS BILL WILL
HELP US AND THE CONSUMERS THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION PLEASE
STEP FORWARD.
GOOD AFTERNOON TWO MINUTES IF
YOU LIKE AFTERNOON I'M SURE
MEMBERS BELIEVE GORING
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA.
MOST OF THEM MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY
COUNCIL RECREATIONAL HOFFA WITH
VEHICLES AND SPECIALLY VEHICLE
IN FRONT OF THE TUBE.
IF WITH A CURE FOR MOST OF I
CAN READ TO FOUR LINES OF THE
VEHICLE CODE SECTION SIX SEVENTY
ONE. YOU HAVE.
ALMOST TWO MINUTES LEFT YOU CAN
PROCEED AS YOU WISH I'LL GET
ALONG FOR SPIRITUAL.
BUT ANYWAYS SIX SEVENTY ONE THE
VEHICLE CODE SUBSECTION HEY. A
VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS
THE MODEL NUMBER SEVERAL NUMBER
OR OTHER DISTINGUISHING NUMBER
ONE REMARK OR CHARACTER OR DOUBT
ON OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF.
REQUIRED EMPLOYED BY THE
MANUFACTURER OR THE DEPARTMENT.
FOR FOR PURPOSES OF UNIQUELY
UNIQUELY IDENTIFIED A VEHICLE.
AND. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART
FOR PURPOSES OF REGISTRATION. SO
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO TRANSPIRES
TO RECALL SOME OF THE NEW HAVE
LIED WHATEVER YOUR BILL FALL
I'VE LISTED. THREE RANDOMLY VIN
NUMBERS ON THE VIN NUMBER
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH
WHAT'S ON IT AS MISSILE BORROW
SHOWED THE MARONEY. LET'S REVIVE
YOUR PRICES WILL HELP ME OUT ON
STUFF WE HAVEN'T. AND IF IF THE
MOTORCYCLE DEALERS STEAK IS SO
IMPORTANT. ONE POLLUTER ALONG OR
THEY COULD NEGOTIATE WITH THE
MANUFACTURERS.
FOR LEVEL A NOBLE THANK YOU.
RIGHT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
ANY QUESTIONS SENATOR MONEY.
THANK YOU. MY QUESTION FOR THE
AUTHOR.
IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THE
GOAL.
IS TO BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH.
THE MOTORCYCLE BY ITS VIN
NUMBER.
SO THAT ALL THE OTHER
INFORMATION IS CONTAINED ON
THERE IS INDEED LINKED.
TO THE MOTORCYCLE THAT THE
CONSUMER IS LOOKING AT YES.
THANK YOU.
IT IS.
AND MY FOLLOW UP IS THAT.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW MOTORCYCLES
BUT THERE'S OTHER. ELEMENTS THE.
SIZE OF THE ENGINE THE GREEN
MONSTER MUFFLER OR WHATEVER ELSE
IS INCLUDED IN THAT LIKE YOU
WOULD HAVE ON A CAR WE'RE
FAMILIAR WITH LEATHER SEATS AND
ALL THAT THAT'S ALL ON THAT. TAG
WERE. MOST OF IT.
IS THAT THE IDEA WITH THE TICKET
WITH THE TAG YES AND I'LL LET
THE MOTORCYCLE. DEALERS.
.
PRESENTED OF ANSWER THAT TO TO
SAY WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS ON
THERE.
YES IT HAS IT HAS THE STANDARD
PRICE AND THEN IF YOU ADD CHROME
PIPE SO YOU INPUT FLAMES ON
EXTRACTING THAT WOULD BE SO
NOTED ON THAT TAG. SO THAT THE.
CONSUMER COULD SEE IT NOW WITH
THE PRICES IF YOU WANT TO GO TO
ANOTHER DEALER AND LOOK AT THAT
BY CAN SEE WHAT THE PRICES ARE
SICK AND COMPARE. AND IT'S ALL
FOR THE. FOR THE CONSUMER.
RIGHT IT'S STANDARDIZED FOR CARS
RIGHT NOW BUT WE'RE NOT
STANDARDIZING THE SAME
INFORMATION ON MOTORCYCLES.
ANY QUESTIONS ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS.
MOTION BY SENATOR MINING IF
YOU'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY CLOSE. I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I
HAVE A VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. JACKSON JACKSON
I'M MORE LOCK. BLACK EYE
ANDERSON ANDERSON I HURTS BERG
MORNING. MORNING I STERN BY
CASSIE BUT BECAUSE HE I. THANK
YOU ALL. FIVE VOTES WILL KEEP
THE ROLE OPEN THANK YOU VERY
MUCH NEXT ITEM VERY MUCH.
IS A FILE ITEM EIGHTEEN AB TWO
TWO EIGHT SIX BY SOME WOMEN
CHAN.
WHILE ITEM EIGHTEEN.
AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER I UNDERSTAND
THAT YOU WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AS AUTHORS
AMENDMENTS AS DETAILED IN THE
ANALYSIS THAT IS CORRECT MANNER
VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR TIME AND SHARE YOU BET. ON
AB TWENTY TWO EIGHTY SIXES
STRAIGHT FORWARD BILL THAT
RECEIVED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN
THE ASSEMBLY ON THIS BILL WORKS
IN THE HOURS IN WHICH A PROCESS
SERVER CAN AS FOR THEIR CASE.
CURRENT LAW
ALLOWS PROCESSORS TO DROP OFF
THESE NOTICES AND OTHER PAPERS
BETWEEN EIGHT AM SIX PM. AB TWO
TWO EIGHT SIX WORKS ON A TIME TO
EIGHT PM. THIS CHANGING TIME
FRAME WILL ONLY BE FOR LEGAL
NOTICES THAT PERTAIN TO A CASE
THAT HAS ALREADY COMMENCED. AND
THIS EXTENSION ONE SHORT OF
THESE NOTICES ARE RECEIVED IN A
TIMELY MANNER.
AS WELL AS HELP WITH THE
RELIABILITY OF THE PERSON BEING
HOME DURING THE ALLOTTED TIME
FRAME. I HAVE WITH ME TODAY MIKE
LOAD WHO IS REPRESENTING THE
ASSOCIATION OF LEGAL SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS TO HELP TESTIFIED.
GOOD AFTERNOON NOTE THE CHANGE
THAT MADAM CHAIR MIKE AND MIKE
FOLLOWED ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION LEGAL
SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS. TO
CLARIFY WHICH IS ALREADY BEEN
STATED AND. NICELY SUMMARIZED IN
THE ANALYSIS WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT JURISDICTIONAL DOCUMENTS
HERE THESE ARE NOT SUMMONSES AND
COMPLAINTS THESE ARE NOTICES OF
MOTION THAT SORT OF THING
TYPICALLY GO BETWEEN.
OPPOSING COUNSEL.
THAT LAW SAYS YOU CAN SERVE THEM
PERSONALLY OR BY MAIL. BUT IF
PERSONALLY CAN ONLY BE DONE
BETWEEN EIGHT AND SIX PEOPLE ARE
AT WORK THIS GIVES US A COUPLE
MORE HOURS TO GET PEOPLE ACTUAL
NOTICE. AND WE'D ASK FOR MY
VOTE.
THANK YOU CAN THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SPORT.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
QUESTIONS FROM THE DICE WE HAVE
A MOTION BY SENATOR MORNING
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
THANK YOU MENTION FOR TIME I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I THOUGHT.
THIS IS ONE OF THE EASIER ONES.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS THE USE OF A MOTION TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
FLOOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON HEIGHTS JACKSON I'M
GONNA LOCK.
MORE LIKE I ANDERSON ARE ENTERS
AN I. HERTZBERG MINING MORNING I
STERN. LIKE ASKING. WHAT CASSIE
I WRITE YOU HAVE FIVE VOTES WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR THE ANTI
MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH?
NEXT UP IS A FILE ITEM.
TWENTY THREE IS ASSEMBLYMAN.
SHE IS NOT HERE SO ASSEMBLY
MEMBER RAISES HIS HERE AND WE
WILL GO FORWARD WITH HER WE DO
HAVE.
AFTER ASSEMBLY MEMBER RADIUS WE
HAVE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TO ART OF
GARCIA ASSEMBLY MEMBER LEE MOAN
AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER CREATION AND
THAT WILL CLOSE OUT OUR HEARING.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU AS
FAMILY MEMBER RAISES HIS FILE
ITEM THIRTY THREE AB THIRTY
NINETEEN GOOD AFTERNOON.
AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. ARE TODAY FOR I AM
PRESENTING AB THIRTY NINETEEN
WHICH IS A STRAIGHT FORWARD AND
SMALL TECHNICAL BILL THAT
REQUIRES ALL NOTICES OF
DEPOSITION TO BE IN TWELVE POINT
FONT. FOR EACH EASY LEGIBILITY.
EXISTING LAW ALREADY REQUIRES A
PARTIES DESIRING TO TAKE ORAL
DEPOSITION FROM ANY PERSON TO
GIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE
DEPOSITION TO THAT PERSON. AB
THIRTY NINETEEN SIMPLY ENSURES
THAT THE NOTICE OF DEPOSITION
ALONG WITH THE ALREADY REQUIRED
INFORMATION.
IS IN AT LEAST TWELVE POINT FONT
IN ORDER TO BE LEGIBLE.
AND WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I. BOAT TO HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN SPORTS NOW ANY ANY
WITNESSES A IN OPPOSITION.
MOVE THE BILL WE HAVE A MOTION A
QUESTION SENATOR WORDS. SENATOR
MOANING.
THIS SEEMS LIKE KIND OF A.
UNIQUE KIND OF BILL AND WHAT THE
SIZE OF THE FINE SHOULD BE SO
I'M.
LOOK HERE IS WHAT'S THE PENALTY
IF YOU. USE A WEAPON.
POINT TYPE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE THE PENALTY IS JUST GOING
TO BE A REQUIREMENT JUST AS YOU
HAVE TO HAVE IF IF IT ISN'T IT
DONE PROPERLY. ARE JUST AS IF
YOU DON'T GIVE THE EXACT PLACE
OR WHAT HAVE YOU THEN IT COULD
BE A MOTION TO NOT HAVE TO HAVE
THE DEPOSITION.
THAT'S THE ABUSE WOULD NOBODY'S
GOING TO BE PENALIZED AND.
GIVEN A FREE.
IT PROBABLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS
ARGUABLY IF YOU GOT SOMETHING
ELEVEN POINT FONT. A YOU DON'T
SHOW UP FOR THE DEPOSITION THEY
FILED A MOTION TO COMPEL YOU SAY
THEY DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
WHEN I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING
TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF BATTLING
OVER THIS IS JUST A. PROBABLY
TWELVE FOUR POINT FONT IS
PROBABLY EASIER TO READ I'M
ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK
FOR MOST LAW OFFICES DO USE
TWELVE POINT FONT. BUT FOR THOSE
WHO TRY TO USE A SMALL PRINT TO
SEND OUT A NOTICE FOR WHATEVER
THE REASON. THEY WON'T BE ABLE
TO DO IT THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN
TWELVE POINT FONT.
BUT THAT'S OKAY SO YOUR YOUR
PRIME IT JUST SEEMS TO CARE TO
LAY PERSON JUST SEEMS. LIKE WORD
COUNTY JEWELS ON THE TOP OF THE
PEN. HEAD SO I APOLOGIZE I
DROVE.
HER STATEMENT I THINK.
IT IT SEEMS LIKE SIMPLE REQUEST
AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE
COMPLICATED THINGS THAT USUALLY
COME BEFORE US SO I. THINK
WHERE.
THERE'S A LITTLE SKEPTICISM IN
THE ROOM BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE
BILL IS THAT'S REALLY ALL IT
DOES. YEAH ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A
MOTION BY THE DISCUSSION LATER
ABOUT IT ALL RIGHT IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO CLOSE. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE ON THIS VERY
SIMPLE AND TECHNICAL BILL MADE
VERY GOOD. OF THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO THE SENATE FLOOR PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON JACKSON I AM MORE LOCK.
ANDERSON ANDERSON NO HERTZBERG.
MORNING MORNING I STERN BY
CASKEY.
BY CASKEY I. OR THE BILL HAS A
THREE VOTES WE WILL KEEP THE
ROLE OPEN FOR THE ADDITIONAL
VOTES THANK YOU. WE HAVE.
FILE ITEM TWENTY NINE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LEE MOAN IS HERE. AB
TWENTY EIGHT OH THREE.
GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS AB
TWENTY OH THREE ENSURES THAT OUR
STATE OF HOLDS A RECENT COURT
HEARING THAT AFTER EIGHTEEN
YEARS OF LITIGATION FOUND PAINT
MANUFACTURERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
HARM CAUSED BY THEIR PROMOTION
AND MARKETING. OF THEIR LEAD
BASED PAINT PRODUCTS. EXPOSURE
TO LEAD CAN SERIOUSLY HARM A
CHILD'S HEALTH EVEN A SLIGHT
ELEVATION IN BLOOD LEVELS CAN
REDUCE IQ AND SENT DEVELOPMENT.
ACCORDING TO THE CDC MILLIONS OF
CHILDREN ARE BEING EXPOSED TO
LEAD IN THEIR HOMES THROUGH
AGING LEAD BASED PAINT
INCREASING THEIR WRIST FOR
DAMAGE TO THE BRAIN AND NERVOUS
SYSTEM. SLOWED THE GROWTH AND
DEVELOPMENT LEARNING AND
BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS HEARING AND
SPEECH PROBLEMS. IN TWO THOUSAND
A COMPLAINT WAS FILED IN ONE ON
BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST
THREE MAJOR PAINT MANUFACTURERS
THAT FOUND THE FORMER LEAD PAINT
MANUFACTURERS. RESPONSIBLE FOR
MOTI FOR PROMOTING LEAD PAINT
FOR USE IN HOMES DESPITE THEIR
KNOWLEDGE OF THE PRODUCT WAS
HIGHLY TOXIC.
IN SPITE OF THE COURT'S FOUNDING
THE PAINT MANUFACTURERS ARE
PROPOSING INITIATIVE FOR THE
TWENTY EIGHTEEN STATEWIDE THE
NOVEMBER BALLOT THAT WOULD
RELIEVE PAIN MANUFACTURES OF
LIABILITY AND DO THE ACTIONS BY
MULTIPLE. COURTS AND PUT THE
SOLE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY ON
CALIFORNIA HOMEOWNERS FOR
CLEANING UP LEAD CONTAMINATED
PAINT. IF ENACTED THE INITIATIVE
WOULD COST TAXPAYERS THREE POINT
NINE BILLION DOLLARS. AB TWENTY
TO THREE WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE
AFFECTED BY LEAD PACE LEAD BASED
PAINT ARE ABLE TO RECOVER
ABATEMENT COST FOR LEAD PAINT
FROM LEAD PAINT MANUFACTURERS IF
NECESSARY. BASED ON THE
JUDGMENTS OF THE COURTS THIS
SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE
PROPOSAL. WITH ME TODAY IS FAITH
CALMLY WITH LOS ANGELES COUNTY
AND MARK ACT ANCHOR AND WITH THE
CITY AT WITH SAN DIEGO CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE MAY
HAVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITNESSES
SUPPORT TWO MINUTES EACH PLEASE.
THANK YOU. UP MY NAME IS MARK
AND CORN ON THE DEPUTY CITY
ATTORNEY WITH THE SAN DIEGO CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AB TWENTY TO
THREE IS AN IMPORTANT
CLARIFICATION OF THE LAW. IT
DOES NOT CREATE NEW LAW.
IT HAS THREE IMPORTANT
CLARIFICATIONS OF CALIFORNIA
FIRST. THE BILL ESTABLISHES A
ONE A LEAD PAINT AFFECTS THE
HEALTH OF A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER
OF PERSONS. INTERFERES WITH THE
PUBLIC RIGHT.
OTHER STATES HAVE HELD THAT A
SUBSTANCE OR ACTION IS A PUBLIC
NUISANCE ONLY WHAT IT DEPRIVES
ALL MEMBERS OF A COMMUNITY. OF A
RIGHT OR SOME RESOURCE WHICH
THEY ARE OTHERWISE ENTITLED SUCH
AS CLEAN AIR CLEAN WATER OR
ACCESS TO A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
CALIFORNIA HOWEVER HAS
CONSISTENTLY TAKEN A MORE
EXPANSIVE VIEW IN BODIES IN
STATUTE CASE LAW OF WHAT
CONSTITUTES A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
THIS SIMPLY EMBRACES THAT FEW
SECONDS THE BILL CHANGES THE
INTENT REQUIREMENT FROM ACTUAL
KNOWLEDGE TO ACTUAL OR
CONSTRUCTIVE KNOWLEDGE.
THIS WOULDN'T HAVE MADE ANY
DIFFERENCE IN THE CURRENT
LAWSUIT. SINCE THERE WAS AMPLE
EVIDENCE AT TRIAL TO PROVE TO
THE LEAD PAINT MANUFACTURERS HAD
ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE DANGERS
OF LEAD PAINT. DATING BACK TO
THE EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS.
THIRD THE BILL CLARIFIES THAT A
PUBLIC NUISANCE LAW ABATEMENT
LAWSUITS CAUSATION CAN BE
INFERRED EVEN MORE DIRECT
EVIDENCE IS LACKING. THIS HAS
LONG BEEN THE LAW IN CALIFORNIA
BUT AGAIN OTHER STATES OF HELL
DIFFERENTLY FINDING THE
CAUSATION CAN BE ESTABLISHED
ONLY BY IDENTIFYING THE SPECIFIC
DEFENDANT WHO MADE OR SOLD THE
SPECIFIC PRODUCT.
THIS PART OF THE BILL ALSO
REJECTS THE RULE IN OTHER STATES
THE ONLY WHEN A PERSON IS IN
CONTROL OF THE NUISANCE. CAN
THEY BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
COSTS OF THE BASEMENT. EACH OF
THESE POINTS EXCEPT FOR THE
CONSTRUCT KNOWLEDGE INTENSE
STANDARD WERE EXPLAINED IN
DETAIL IN THE CONAGRA DECISION.
ISSUED BY THE SIX DISTRICT COURT
OF APPEAL IN NOVEMBER OF LAST
YEAR WHEN THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT DENIED REVIEW. IT
CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS INDEED
THE LAW IN CALIFORNIA HOWEVER
THE BILL IS NEEDED TO ENSURE
THAT THE CON AGRA RULING IS NOT
MISS READ OR MISAPPLIED BY OTHER
COURTS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIX WITNESS
PLEASE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AT FEET CALMLY
REPRESENTING THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HERE
TODAY.
THE CHAIN TENDER RESTRICTIONS
THAT HOLDS TRUE IN WILLIAMS
CONAGRA AND AND ALL INDUSTRIES
ACCOUNTABLE FOR KNOWINGLY
PROMOTING. AND SELLING LEAD
PAINT PRIOR TO ITS BEGINNING IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT HAVE MORE
THAN FOUR POINT SIX MILLION
UNITS OF PRE NINETEEN EIGHTY
HOUSING.
LA COUNTY IS THE WORST PLACE OF
THESE REGIONS WITH OVER TWO
POINT FIVE MILLION HOUSING UNITS
PRESUME TO CONTAIN LEAD PAINT.
OUR COUNTY FOUGHT FOR TWENTY
YEARS TO SECURE A JUDGMENT THAT
WOULD PROTECT CITIZENS UP AND
DOWN THE STATE FROM THE HEALTH
DANGERS ASSOCIATED WITH LEAD
PAINT EXPOSURE.
LITTLE DID WE KNOW THAT
FOLLOWING THAT FIGHT FOR JUSTICE
WOULD BE FACED WITH HAVING IT
NULLIFIED ON THE BALLOT.
SO HERE WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF AB TWENTY ZERO THREE A BILL
THAT WOULD PRESERVE THE ABILITY
OF THE VICTIMS OF LEAD PAINT
COMPANIES CONTINUED KNOWN USE OF
HARMFUL PAINT.
TO RECOVER A BEATNIK COSTS FROM
THOSE COMPANIES.
BEST MMBERS I'D URGE YOU TO
VOTE I TODAY ON AB TWENTY OH
THREE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS SUSAN
LITTLE I'M WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP. THE
AMERICAN WORKING GROUP HAS BEEN
CONCERNED ABOUT HUMAN HEALTH AND
THE ENVIRONMENT ESPECIALLY WITH
REGARD TO HOW TOXICS. AFFECT
CHILDREN'S HEALTH.
AND LEAD OF AS WE KNOW HAS BEEN.
.
DETERMINED TO BE UNSAFE AT ANY
LEVEL AND AS A RESULT HAS BEEN A
CONCERN OF OURS FOR SOME TIME
AND WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE
SPONSORED AND CO SPONSORED
NUMEROUS BILLS. OVER THE LAST
TWO YEARS TO ADDRESS CHILDHOOD
LEAD. EXPOSURE.
TWENTY EGHT OH AB TWENTY OUT
TWENTY EIGHT A WEIGHT WILL
FURTHER HELP COUNTIES AND
HOMEOWNERS ADDRESS LEAD PAINT
CONTAMINATION IN THEIR HOMES AND
SO WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS
MEASURE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NAME
AND AFFILIATION PLEASE MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS LAND TRITON
REPRESENTING CONSUMER ATTORNEYS
OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CALIFORNIA
LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
MICHAEL RIGHT AGAIN ON BEHALF OF
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SANTA
CLARA COUNTY AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. IN HER HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF THE VENTURA COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
YEAH.
TWO MINUTES EACH PLEASE.
I'M JEANNE URBAN REPRESENT
CONAGRA ENSURE WHEN WILLIAMS.
.
WILL.
DEVIATES RADICALLY FROM THE
RULING.
SO LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
THE RULING APPLIED TO INTERIOR
FRICTION SERVICES THIS APPLIES
TO ALL PAIN EVERYWHERE EXTERIOR
AND INTERIOR.
THE CASE. IS NOW BEFORE THE
SUPERIOR COURT AND REMAINED.
MAKES.
A SIGNIFICANT DISTINCTION
BETWEEN NINETEEN FIFTY AND
NINETEEN EIGHTY.
IMPOSING LIABILITY ONLY FOR
THOSE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE FIFTY
OR FIFTY ONE.
PERHAPS DECLARING THE NUISANCE.
TO EXTEND HOMES BUILT BEFORE
ANYONE BUT NOT LIABILITY.
THIS MAKES NO SUCH DISTINCTION
SO IT'S A RADICAL EXPANSION
LIABILITY ARGUABLY OVERTURNS THE
CASE WILL GENERATE YET ANOTHER
GENERATION OF LITIGATION AS
RELATES THAT CASE.
IT ALSO IMPOSES LIABILITY ON
THOSE WHO PROMOTED INCLUDING THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
COUNTLESS LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
THAT FREQUENTLY ENCOURAGE THE
USE OF LEAD PAINT AND IN MANY
INSTANCES. REQUIRED THE USE OF
LEAD PAINT.
IF THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE UNDER
THIS BILL WHO.
IS.
ON THE BILL IS UP POORLY
CONCEIVED. ON.
POORLY WRITTEN. I THINK IT
OBLITERATES THE NOTION OF
CAUSATION.
.
NO USES THE WORD PARTICULAR.
THREE TIMES IN THE SAME SENTENCE
NO PARTICULAR PARTY BECAUSE A
PARTICULAR LEAD BASED PAINT TO
BE APPLIED IN A PARTICULAR
MANNER. FOR ANY PARTICULAR
REASON UNDER ANY PARTICULAR.
IT'S I THINK IT APPROACHES
ABSURD.
IF THE INTENT OF THIS BODY IS
TO TRY TO RESOLVE THE
AMBIGUITIES AND UNCERTAINTIES
CREATED BY. THE APPELLATE RULING
NOW ON REMAND.
THERE'S A FEROCIOUS DEBATE ABOUT
HOW MUCH LIABILITY THERE WILL BE
AN REMANDED IT'S BETWEEN FOUR
AND SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION BOX.
NO ONE WANTS TO ADMINISTER THIS
PROGRAM INCLUDING THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL TO SARAH WROTE A LETTER
TO THE COURT SAYING PLEASE DON'T
GIVE THIS TO US.
THIS DOESN'T HELP.
THIS MAKES PROBLEMS MORE
DIFFICULT MADAM CHAIRPERSON IF
THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN
RESOLVING THIS THIS IS NOT THE
VEHICLE TO DO THAT WE ARE
EXPOSED THANK YOU. MUCH OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION PLACE
TWO MINUTES. MADAM CHAIR ADAM
RIGHTLY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I'M NOT SURE I HAVE TOO MUCH
MORE TO ADD.
BUT. ONE THING THAT THIS BILL
ALSO DOES IN TERMS OF EXPANDING
THE LIABILITY ON THE ACTUAL
CONAGRA CASE IS THAT THE CASE
WAS LIMITED TO TEN
JURISDICTIONS.
THIS BILL MAKES NO DISTINCTION
BETWEEN.
WHEN THE HOME WAS BUILT.
EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR AND THE
REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS
THAT THE COURT EXPRESSLY FOUND
THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE FOR
CAUSATION IS TO APPLY LIABILITY
TO THE EXTERIOR HOME. LEAD IN
GASOLINE WAS OUTLAWED IN
NINETEEN NINETY FIVE COMPLETELY
PHASED OUT NINETY FIVE.
BLOOD WAS BANNED IN.
LET PIGMENT IN NINETEEN SEVENTY
EIGHT AND SO THE CAUSATION
ASPECT WAS NOT PROVEN THIS BILL
RADICALLY EXPAND THE LIABILITY.
WITH WITH NO EVIDENCE TO
SUPPORT IT AND.
FOR THOSE REASONS AS STATED.
WE OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IF YOU COME FORWARD
NAME AND AFFILIATION PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON EVENING BASH ON
THIS NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE
BUSINESS REPRESENTING OVER
TWENTY THOUSAND SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS IN CALIFORNIA ALSO POST.
THANK YOU.
DRILL COOK FOR THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU.
OR ENABLE AND SAY REPRESENTING
THE AMERICAN CUTTING
DISSOCIATION THE CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT SING HER
NONE OF WE'LL START WITH THE
SENATOR MINING FALL BY CENTER
WHAT COUNTS GET.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I'D BEEN
CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM THE AUTHOR
YOUR WITNESS A RESPONSE TO THE
OPPONENTS CONCERNS ABSOLUTELY NO
ACTUALLY DEFERRED TO THE
WITNESS.
SO.
WE TAKE ISSUE WITH THE IDEA THAT
EXPANDS OUR LIABILITY AND WHAT I
MEANT BY CLARIFYING THE LAW IS
THE EXACTLY THAT THAT CLARIFIES
THE LAW. I DON'T THINK THERE'S
ANY DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT THE
CONTOURS OF THE CON AGRA
DECISION ARE OR THE. DECISION
EARLIER FROM TWO THOUSAND SIX
ALSO FROM THE SIXTH DISTRICT A
COURT OF APPEAL WHICH OUTLINED
VERY CAREFULLY. WHAT THE
CONTOURS OF PUBLIC NUISANCE
JURISPRUDENCE HE IS IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA WHAT THE LAW
MEANS?
THE REAL QUESTION IS THE IDEA OF
INTER VERSES EXTERIOR NINETEEN
FIFTY ONE EARLIER IN NINETEEN
SEVENTY EIGHT EARLIER. ALL OF
THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SPECIFIC
PROOF OFFERED UP AT TRIAL BY THE
SPECIFIC LITIGANTS IN THE
SPECIFIC LITIGATION.
NOTICE I DIDN'T USE OR
PARTICULAR BUT. THAT IS THE REAL
ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS
ENOUGH PROOF OR NOT AND THAT'S
WHAT THE SIX DISTRICT COURT OF
APPEAL SAID IN NOVEMBER THAT
THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PROOF. FOR
ANYTHING BETWEEN NINETEEN FIFTY
ONE IN NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT
AND THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T DO
INJURE YOUR VERSES EXTERIOR WE
DROP THE EXTERIOR CLAIM IN THE
FOURTH THE AMENDED COMPLAINT IN
THE EARLY TWO THOUSAND ALL THE
TWENTY ELEVEN. BOB HAD TO DO
WITH SIMPLY GOING AFTER WHAT WE
SEE IS THE REAL KEY ELEMENT OF
THE REAL DANGEROUS PAINT IS THE
PAINT ON THE INTERIOR OF THE
HOUSE. THAT'S THE DANGER TO
CHILDREN SO THEY ARE LIABLE FOR
THE OTHER STUFF WE DECIDED NOT
TO PROSECUTE THOSE CLAIMS AND WE
OFFERED SOME EVIDENCE ON THE
HOUSES BUILT BETWEEN NINETEEN
FIFTY ONE IN NINETEEN SEVENTY
EIGHT. THE TRIAL COURT THOUGHT
THERE WAS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO
SHOW ABATEMENT LIABILITY FOR
THAT. THE COURT OF APPEALS SAID
NO THERE WASN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE
BUT THAT'S NOT A QUESTION ABOUT
WHAT THE LAW IS OR WHAT THE LAW
ISN'T. AND I I REMAIN PERPLEXED
AS TO WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS.
STATUTE WOULD IN ANY WAY CREATE
QUESTIONS HAVING TO DO WITH THE
CURRENT LITIGATION WAS OF THE
LITIGATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF THE
CONAGRA DECISION SPEAKS FOR
ITSELF. THERE IS VERY LITTLE TO
BE RE DONE IN THAT THE JUDGMENT
COMING BACK TO THE TRIAL COURT.
SIMPLY QUESTION OF A FIXING THE
DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN AGREEING
ON A RECEIVERSHIP AND WE AWAIT
THE INPUT OF THE DEFENDANTS
SPECIFICALLY CONAGRA SHARON
WILLIAMS. AS TO WHO THEY WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE AS A RECEIVER
BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THEY
HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO US WE'VE
PROPOSED A NUMBER OF NAMES AND
THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED. SO IF
THEY HAVE INPUT ON THAT WE WOULD
BE DELIGHTED TO HEAR FROM THEM.
THANK YOU THE CENTER WHAT I'M
SORRY JUST FOLLOW FROM. THEM
THROUGH THE CHAIR SLEEPS LIKE
PLEASE GO AHEAD GIVEN ON WE'RE
NOT HERE TO RE LITIGATE THE
CASE.
BUT.
HE.
MY.
ADVERSARY SUGGESTS THERE WAS A
LACK OF EVIDENCE THIS BILL
OBLITERATES ANY FOR EVIDENCE
INABILITY RATES THE NEED FOR
CAUSATION. THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY
RE LITIGATING THE CASE THAT THEY
DIDN'T PREVAIL ON SO THE OTHER
JURISDICTION TO PURSUE OTHER
DEFENDANTS.
THE REASON THERE'S A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN FIFTEEN EIGHTY ONE IS
BECAUSE THERE WERE WARNINGS
ATTACHED. IS THAT A DEFENSE YES
OR NO.
IT WAS UP HELD AS A DEFENSE.
THIS MAKES NO MENTION OF
DEFENSES THERE'S NO AFFIRMATIVE
DEFENSES IS THE FACT THAT THERE
WAS A WARNING FIXED TO THE PAINT
A DEFENSE UNDER THIS OR YOU
SIMPLY SAY WELL I'M NOT ARGUING
ANY PARTICULAR CASE PARTICULAR
HOME. PARTICULAR PAINT COMPANY.
IT'S.
IT'S NOT SOUND IT'S A FLAWED
PROPOSAL THAT'S TRYING TO RE
LITIGATE. AND WROTE FIVE CAUSES
OF ACTION UNDER PUBLIC NUISANCE
THAT WERE LOST IN THE COURT THAT
ARE STILL BEING LITIGATED IN THE
TRIAL.
THIS IS NOT AN ACADEMIC
DISCUSSION. IT'S NOT CERTAIN.
EFFORT TO CODIFY WITH
PUBLICATION SHOULD BE IT ONLY
PROTECTS THE LEAD PAINT SO LET'S
GET RID OF THE NOTION THAT THIS
IS ABOUT PUBLIC NUISANCE
BROADLY.
IT ISN'T THERE READ LITIGATING
THE SAME CASE AGAIN AND AGAIN
THEY ACCUSE US OF DOING THAT A
OKAY OKAY THANK YOU KNOW
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LITTLE
EMOTION TO THIS SO JUST TRY TO
DEAL WITH IT HERE. WE'VE GOT A
BILL BEFORE US. AND THE BILL IS
TO TRY TO ESTABLISH POLICY
DEALING WITH WHETHER OR NOT LEAD
PAINT IS A NUISANCE. SO CAN WE
FOCUS ON THAT SENATOR WHITE
CASKET SO ON PAGE THREE OF THE
BILL I'M ON PARAGRAPH KATE WORD
STATES MILLIONS OF RESIDENTS IN
CALIFORNIA WERE BUILT BEFORE
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT. AND ARE
PRESUMED TO CONTAIN LEAD BASED
PAINT I READ CON AND THE APPEALS
AND IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE MORE
NINETEEN FIFTY ONE WAS MORE THAN
JUST. A.
A DATE THAT THE THE COURT OF
APPEALS THEY INSTRUCTED THE
TRIAL COURT TO DO IT SO. WHY I
GUESS IF IT'S IF IT'S JUST A
RESTATEMENT OF THE LAW IT SEEMS
TO ME THAT THE APPELLATE COURT
HAS CHANGED TO SEVENTY EIGHT DAY
TO FIFTY ONE FOR PURPOSES A
RESTATEMENT OF ITS NEW LAW?
WHERE THE LEGISLATURE WE CAN
MAKE NEW LAW SO CAN I GET A
CLARIFICATION ON THAT IF THAT
BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO ME THE
ROLLED BACK TO THE TRIAL COURT
DECISIONS ON THAT DATE AT THE
VERY LEAST? THE REST OF THE
STUFF IS DIFFERENT.
I MEAN A DEFERRED TO. THE SO THE
PRESUMPTION THAT.
OF THE HOUSE BILL FOUR NINETEEN
SEVENTY CONTAIN LEAD PAINT WHAT
WAS CREATED IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY BY FEDERAL STATUTE
BACK IN THE NINETIES THAT'S LONG
BEEN A DISCLOSURE I BELIEVE
CALIFORNIA HAD THAT EVEN BEFORE
THE FEDS. SO THAT'S NOT REALLY
ANYTHING THAT WAS NEW TOTHE
LITIGATION AGAIN THE DISTINCTION
BETWEEN FIFTY ONE IN SEVENTY
EIGHT IN THE APPELLATE COURT
OPINION. HAD TO DO WITH PROOF.
WHETHER THERE WAS ENOUGH
EVIDENCE TO SHOW WE THOUGHT WE
HAD PRODUCED.
YOU KNOW A SURPLUS OF EVIDENCE
ON THAT AMOUNT OF HOUSES IN
OTHER WORDS THAT THE DEFENDANTS
HAD KNOWINGLY OF PROMOTED LEAD
PAINT FOR INTERIOR USE.
CONTINUOUSLY THROUGH NINETEEN
SEVENTY EIGHT THE TRIAL COURT
AGREED WITH US THE APPELLATE
COURT DID NOT.
THAT'S HOW LITIGATION GO
SOMETIMES SO THE FACT OF THE
MATTER IS THIS BILL WHAT WE
AGREE WOULD OPEN UP. THE ENTIRE
SCOPE OF NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT
AND EARLIER HOUSES. IT'S A
QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THAT
WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN OUR
LITIGATION I SUSPECT NOT DUE TO
RACE YOU TO QATAR. BUT CERTAINLY
OTHER COUNTIES THAT WOULD WANT
TO BRING A FRESH LAWSUIT OR THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA ACTING TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT WOULD
WANT TO BRING A LAWSUIT. ON
BEHALF OF THE FIFTY THREE
PERCENT. OF AMERICA OF THE
CALIFORNIA POPULATION THAT IS
NOT COVERED BY OUR LAWSUIT OR
ANY OF THE ABATEMENT FUND. THEY
WOULD HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS
CLARIFICATION OF THE LAW AND THE
SPECIFIC PRESUMPTION WITH
RESPECT TO CAUSATION. MADAM
CHAIR IT'S IT SEEMS TO ME AND I
GOTTA THINK ABOUT THIS IS THAT
IS THAT WE'RE OVERTURNING THAT
ONE PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE OF
THE APPELLATE COURT DECISION.
WITH THE STATUTE BECAUSE IT
COMES IN AND IT WOULD IT WOULD
EXTEND TO ALL THOSE OTHER
JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVEN'T HAD
IT AT A COURT CASE STEVE THE
COURT IF WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
THE TRIAL COURT AND SOMEBODY
WENT INTO MONO COUNTY OR.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY WOULD
SAY OKAY THIS SIX CIRCUIT OR YES
SIX CIRCUIT IS SAID IT ONLY
APPLIES TO PRE NINETEEN FIFTY
ONE SO I MEAN IT MAY BE A GOOD
POLICY I'M NOT I'M JUST SAYING.
BUT IT'S NOT A RESTATEMENT OF
WHAT THE LAW IS BECAUSE WE ARE
THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE TWO
SAYS THE JUDGMENT IS LIMITED TO
PRE. NINETEEN FIFTY ONE THE
HOMES IF IF I COULD CLARIFY I.
THAT'S THE LAW NOW. IF YOU CAN
SHOW EVIDENCE THAT A A PARTY
PROMOTED LEAD PAINT. THEN YOU
CAN SHOW CAUSATION FOR OF OF OF
OF A PUBLIC NUISANCE. THAT'S
WHAT WE DID.
BUT WE THOUGHT WE CAN WE THOUGHT
WE HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE IF THERE
IS ANOTHER COUNTY THAT CAN FIND.
EVIDENCE SUFFICIENT TO SATISFY
BOTH THE TRIAL COURT AND THE
COURT OF APPEALS. THEN YES THEY
COULD SHOW LIABILITY FOR POST
FIFTY ONE HOUSES SUGGESTIONS
ABOUT THE THE LEGAL STANDARD IS
THE SAME. YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND
THE EVIDENCE THAT THE THE
DEFENDANTS PROMOTED LEAD PAINT.
PRIOR TO NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT.
IT'S NOT REALLY IN CONFLICT WITH
WHAT THE THE CONAGRA DECISION
HELD THE COURT OF APPEALS HELD
THE LEGAL STANDARD IS LEGAL
STANDARD THEY FOUND A FAILURE OF
PROOF. BY BY THE PEOPLE. THAT
MAKES. IT I HOPEFULLY I'M
ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION
OBVIOUSLY MY. COLLEAGUE
DISAGREES WITH ME.
IT WAS NOT A FAILURE OF PROOF
CENTER WHY CASSIDY IT WAS A
DEFENSE EXCUSE ME EXCUSE ME.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT'S
FIVE THIRTY FIVE. WITH A LONG
DAY.
IF YOU WANT TO ARTICULATE IF
THERE'S A QUESTION THAT'S BEING
ASKED YOU YOU CAN RESPOND TO IT.
BUT I WOULD ASK YOU OBVIOUSLY
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW
IS GENERATED SUCH ANTIPATHY THAT
WE MAY EVEN HAVE A BALLOT
INITIATIVE ON THIS SO. I
UNDERSTAND THE EMOTIONS OF THIS
WHICH IS TRYING TO CUT THROUGH
AND GET A SENSE OF WHAT THIS
BILL DOES WHAT IT DOESN'T TO.
WHY IT'S GOOD TO THE PUBLIC
POLICY OR WHY IT ISN'T GOOD
PUBLIC POLICY? I DON'T WANT US
RE LITIGATING CONAGRA.
AND THAT IS TO SAY IT'S RICHARD
A CADA TO THOSE ISSUES YOU
COULDN'T MAKE YOU PROVE SO IT
WENT BACK TO NINETEEN FIFTY.
THIS IS A BILL THAT TRIES TO
ESTABLISH WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO
GOING FORWARD WHAT PARTICLE IN
AGRO GONNA USE AS THE STAB
WISHING CERTAIN BASS LINES. AND
THEN THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT
AS I UNDERSTAND IT FOR BY IF
THERE WERE SUBSEQUENT. LAWSUITS
DEALING WITH.
THE ISSUE OF.
.
CAUSATION AND THIS IS TRYING TO
SET SORT OF SOME GUIDANCE FOR
TWO CENTER ACCOUNTS GIVE HIM
ANOTHER QUESTION. ARE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS HERE MADAM CHAIR ALL
HAVE QUESTIONS IN EQ BUT THIS
IS.
ALL RIGHT THIS IS JUDICIARY VERY
GOOD AND THAT'S FAIR THAT'S FAIR
AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY VERY GOOD
QUESTIONS TO TO ADDRESS.
SAYING NO OTHER QUESTIONS AGAIN
I JUST WANT TO.
FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT
RE LITIGATING NOT REVIVING
CAUSES OF ACTION BECAUSE YOU HAD
YOUR LOSS BUT THERE ARE PARTS AS
I UNDERSTAND IT OF THE CON AGRA
CASE THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO.
CODIFY AS WE GO FORWARD TO
CREATE POLICY FOR THE STATE IS
THE FACT OF USING LEAD PAINTED
THAT CREATE A NUISANCE FOR THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA. AND.
THAT I THINK IS WHAT. THE
INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION IS
BUT.
YOU'RE THE AUTHOR AND SO IF YOU
WOULD CLOSE AND ADDRESS THAT
ISSUE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATE
MORNING IF YOU COULD ADDRESS
THAT ISSUE IN YOUR CLOTHES AS
WELL GREAT THANK YOU. AT YOU
KNOW I WANT TO TAKE THIS FROM
THE LANDS I APPRECIATE THE THE
THE PERSPECTIVE AND THE FEEDBACK
AND THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS
GIVEN THE BILL BUT I ALSO WANT
TO TAKE IT FROM THE LANDS THAT
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS TO THIS IS A
BALLOT INITIATIVE. AND A THREE
POINT NINE BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
AND CALIFORNIANS WOULD BE LEFT
WITH AND SO AS A FORMER AT LET
PREVENTION. SPECIALIST FOR SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY I YOU KNOW THINK
OF ALL THE FAMILIES.
AND WHOSE HOMES I VISITED. WITH
PAT HAD CHILDREN THAT WERE
IMPACTED BY LEAD AND WHAT CAME
TO ME WAS REALLY ADD. UP PROBLEM
I'M NOT JUST A STORY A PROBLEM
OF WHAT WE SEE. THAT CHILDREN GO
THROUGH.
WHEN THEY'VE BEEN POISONED BY
LEAD AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
DO IS TO MOVE FORWARD A BILL
THAT WILL ENSURE THAT
CALIFORNIANS DON'T GET.
STUCK WITH THE BILL THAT WAS
NEVER MEANT TO GO TO THEM AND WE
BELIEVE THAT THE COURTS HAVE
BEEN CLEAR AS TO WHO. IS
SUPPOSED TO PAY THAT IT'S NOT
CALIFORNIANS.
AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU SEE
IS A BILL.
THAT LOOKS AT THE COURT CASE
BUT ALSO INSURES THAT AS
CALIFORNIA WE THINK ABOUT THE
WHOLE STATE AS AS A WHOLE AND
THAT IS WHERE YOU'RE SEEN SOME
OF THE DIFFERENCES.
AND WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO IS
ADD TO MOVE THIS BILL FORWARD IN
A WAY THAT'S CONSISTENT.
AWAY WITH. WHAT THE COURTS
FOUND?
IT DOES SOME OF THE LANGUAGE
DEVIATE FROM THAT AND IT IS A
BIT DIFFERENT BUT I DON'T THINK
IT'S THE IT'S THE SAME. AND POST
IT'S THE SAME GOAL POSTS ON THAT
WE ARE TRYING TO GET AT ON FOR
THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SO WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AND I VOTE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR MORNING THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO THE SENATE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMMITTEE.
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL JACKSON LIKE JACKSON I'M
MORE LOCK.
MORE LUCK NOTE ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NO HERTZBERG.
MORNING MORNING I STERN. LIKE
ASKING.
BART THAT BILL HAS TWO VOTES.
WE WILL UPHOLD THE RULE OPEN
AND.
.
IF THE ARM SERGEANT COULD PLEASE
CALL THE. ABSENT MEMBERS WE HAVE
A TWO MORE BILLS AND I DON'T.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE
GONNA BE GOING ON THAT MUCH
MEMBERS HERE WE HAVE. FILE ITEM
TWENTY THREE WITH ASSEMBLY
MEMBER OR TOWARD OF GARCIA AB
TWENTY SIX THIRTY SIX.
IT'S ALMOST GOOD EVENING BUT
LET'S LET'S CALL EVENING AT SIX
AND SEE IF WE CAN BE OUT HERE
BEFORE THEN THANK YOU SO MUCH
AND WELCOME. THE MINIATURE THAT
THAT EVENING AND. SENATE
COLLEAGUES PROUD TODAY TO
PRESENT A B. TWENTY SIX THIRTY
SIX THIS IS A BILL. A PROCEDURE
MEASURE THAT WOULD CREATE THE
ENVIRONMENT JUST AS FUN INTO
WHICH CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY
GENERAL MAY DEPOSIT MONEY TO
PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE NEWLY
CREATED BUREAU OF ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE. RESPECT YES FOR APPLE.
WELL THAT WAS QUICK THANK YOU
ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
MARIO DI BERNARDO ME ON BEHALF
OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. SERRA
WHO'S THE SPONSOR OF THIS.
THIS BILL AND WE'LL KEEP IT
QUICK WE'RE IN.
SIMPLE BUILD ESTABLISHES I FIND
THAT THAT MONIES CAN GO INTO TO
HELP PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
BUREAU WE ASK FOR YOUR I. BOAT
TAKING CARE. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. BILL MOTION BY
SENATE WHITE HOUSE GETTING
QUESTIONS COMMENTS.
I THINK IT IS A SIMPLE BILL
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR
ATTENTION AND THANK THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL FOR.
IGNITING THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS
ISSUE AND HOPEFULLY BEING ABLE%
TO FUND OUR EFFORTS IN THAT
REGARD WE HAVE A MOTION.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE CLASS
REBEL.
MOTION IS DO PASS THE SORT OF IN
A SENATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
COMMITTEE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON HIGH JACKSON I'M MORE
LOCK.
ANDERSON. ANDERSON NO HERTZBERG.
RUNNING NIGHT MORNING I STERN BY
CASKEY.
BUT THE BILL HAS TWO VOTES.
WE HAVE ONE FINAL BILL WE WILL
SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GRATION YOU'VE BEEN VERY
PATIENT.
IT WAS THE LUCK OF THE DRAW THAT
YOU WERE HERE BUT YOUR BILL
NUMBER WAS THE LAST ONE AND
PEOPLE KIND OF SLIPPED IN AHEAD
OF YOU. BUT WE WILL.
SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST SO I
UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE ARE YOU ARE
TAKING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
THAT WERE. IDENTIFIED IN THE
ANALYSIS AND. IF YOU WOULD
CONFIRM THAT AND GO AHEAD AND
PROCEED THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
AND SENATORS SIGN HERE TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL THREE
THOUSAND TWO. AT FIRST LIKE TO
ACCEPT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ON
PAGE FIVE OF THE ANALYSIS AS
AUTHORS AMENDMENTS. AND I AM
OFFERING THIS BILL TO REQUIRE
ANY LOCAL AGENCY THE ISSUES
BUILDING PERMITS FOR RENOVATION
UNDER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO
ATTACH AN INFORMATIONAL ADA
NOTICED DIRECTLY TO THE
APPLICATION. OF THE BUILDING
PERMIT IT SUPPORTED BY.
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL CENTER
AGENCIES FOUNDATION OF
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS AS
CENTERS AND CALIFORNIA GROCERS
ASSOCIATION. I THINK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO.
BE THE BEST FOR THE LAST AND I
HAVE RESPECT FOR A SORT OF A.
THANK YOU ANY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
EVELYN I WILL HAVE SOME
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIANS
TRANSPORT THANK YOU SO MUCH ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE DICE
SENATOR MORAL.
I'M SURE I'LL SOON GRACE AND I'M
JUST CURIOUS. HOW HOW DOES THIS
DEAL WITH THE SCAM ARTISTS? THE
ATTORNEYS THAT ARE STILL.
WRITING BUSINESSES SAYING YOU'VE
GOT TO MOVE YOUR MAYOR TWO
INCHES AND. OTHER OR OTHERWISE
PAY IS FOUR THOUSAND BUCKS.
BUT THE THE THE GOOD THING ABOUT
IT IS THIS WILL NOW CREATE A
PLACE FOR EVEN THOSE THAT MAY
NOT BE DOING RENOVATION OR.
BUILDING BUT THEY HAVE A PLACE
NOW THEY CAN GO WHICH IS THE
BUILDING PERMIT CENTER OF ANY
LOCAL AGENCY. TO BE ABLE TO GET
THAT LIST OF INSPECTORS THAT
THEY CAN ACTUALLY BRING
INVOLUNTARILY. TO BE ABLE TO DO
AN INSPECTION AND FIX THINGS
BEFORE THESE.
OF.
IN SOME CASES PREDATORY OF FOLKS
WOULD COME BY AND TRY TO. DO
WHAT WE CALL DRY BY LAWSUITS SO
YOU STOP BY THE REACTION OF SOME
MY COLLEAGUES SAID YOU KNOW WE
WERE DRESSED THEORETICALLY THIS
ISSUE. YES BUT.
I'M WONDERING IF THIS REPORT
COULD ALSO SAY IF YOU GET A
LETTER OF THIS NATURE PLEASE
REPORT IT TO THE FOLLOWING.
AND IN ANY AT LEAST DON'T TRY
AND PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE I
APPRECIATE THAT AND WE WILL MAKE
NOTE OF THAT.
AND EXCELLENT OBSERVATION THANK
YOU TO SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK
AT OKAY YOU HAVE MY VOTE NOW.
AND WE DO ALREADY HAVE A LAW I
THINK WAS SENATOR. ROTH.
THE STANDARD STEINBERG YES WE
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND I
THINK WE'VE RESOLVED THAT
PROBLEM. BY IT AND I APPRECIATE
THIS THIS IS A VERY I TINK.
EFFECTIVE APPROACH AND I KNOW
THAT WORKING WITH THE DISABILITY
COMMUNITY.
TO GET THIS TO THIS POINT WHERE
WE ARE.
MISSING THE PROBLEM AND DOING IT
IN A WAY THAT IT THAT WILL HELP
EVERYONE IS CERTAINLY WHAT THE
GOAL WAS AND I THINK THIS HELPS
US AS WELL SO. APPRECIATE YOUR
BRINGING THIS MEASURE AND A FEW.
OF LESSER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IF
YOU'D LIKE TO CLOSE. AT A SHARE
I'D LIKE TO INJURE EVENING
TONIGHT SO I RESPECT WE HAVE FOR
YOU MOST APPRECIATE ALL RIGHT.
THE MOTION IS A TWO PASSES
CEMENTED TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATION MOVE BY SENATOR
MORNING. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JACKSON BY JACKSON I AM MORE
LOCK. MORE LIKE I UNDERSTAND
ANDERSON I HURTS BERG.
MORNING MORNING I STERN STERN I
CASKEY. BY CASKEY I OR TO HAVE
FIVE OR SIX VOTES ON THAT
MEASURE THE BILL IS HOW WE WILL
HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR SENATOR
HERTZBERG AND HOPE THAT HE WILL
JOIN US BECAUSE WE'RE DONE THANK
YOU VERY. MUCH FOR YOUR
PATIENCE.
ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GO
THROUGH WE'LL WAIT JUST A COUPLE
MINUTES WE NEED DOES SENATOR
HERTZBERG HERE.
AND.
.
TO HAVE AN INDICATION THAT HE IS
ON HIS WAY.
MADAM CHAIR I THINK THAT YOU AND
I ARE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE THAT
MISSED ONE OF THE VOTES.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS?
THE NUMBER THREE NUMBER THREE. I
THINK WE WERE IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
NO WE AREN'T WE TOOK A RECESS.
SO YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE GOTTEN
BACK HERE FASHIONABLE WE'RE
GONNA WAIT ONE SECOND. FOR. OF
THE SENATOR HERTZBERG IS HE ON
HIS WAY. GREAT ALRIGHT WE'LL
GIVE IT JUST ANOTHER MINUTE I
KNOW EVERYONE'S ANXIOUS TO GO.
YEAH.
THAT.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT WE.
WE'RE GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE
ROLE ONE TIME OF FOR THE CAR
WE'VE GOT STARTING WITH FILE
ITEM. ONE SP FIFTEEN ELEVEN. ARE
THAT'S THE CONSENT EXCUSE ME
THAT'S THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OF
THE VOTE COUNT IS FOUR TO ZERO
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG BY MORNING.
CONSENT CALENDAR. AND SO. I I I
MORNING I STERN.
STERN. STERN I WRITE SEVEN TO
ZERO THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS
OUT.
THAN IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT
ACCURATELY WOULD BE I THINK A
TWENTY TWO OZ RATHER THAN JUST
THREE. FIGHT BUT THE CONSENT
CALENDAR SELF FILE ITEM TO AB
TWELVE FORTY EIGHT. PLEASE CALL
THE ABSENT MEMBERS BUT SPURRED
HURTS FOR A GUY. STERN. STERN I
WHAT CASSIE. I QUIT CASCAIS I
HAVE SEVEN TWO ZERO THAT ITEM IS
OUT FILE ITEM THREE IS A B.
TWELVE EIGHTY NINE VOTE COUNT IS
THREE TO ZERO. UP PLEASE CALL
THE ABSENT MEMBERS ANDERSON.
ANDERSON I HARTSBURG. HURTS BERG
I'VE STERN STERN. CASKEY CASKEY
I HAVE BEEN ZERO THAT BILL IS
OUT NEXT ITEM IS FILE ITEM FIVE
AB SEVENTEEN NINETY SIX.
VOTE COUNT IS THREE TO ONE CHAIR
VOTING ART PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS MORLOCK.
HERTZBERG HURTS FOR GUYS STERN
STERN I ALL RIGHT FIVE TO ONE
THAT BILL IS OUT FILE ITEM.
EIGHT AB NINETEEN EIGHTY VOTE
COUNT IS TWO TO ONE SURE VOTING
I PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
MORLOCK HURTS BURN HERTZBERG
MORNING. MORNING EYES STERN
STERN I LIVE FIVE TO ONE THAT
BILL IS OUT NEXT ITEM IS FILE
ITEM NINE AB TO ALL FOUR FOUR
VOTE COUNT IS FOUR TO ZERO. SURE
VOTING I PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS BARLACH HURTS BURN
HERTZBERG ICE STERN STERN I AM.
SIX TWO ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT
NEXT ITEM IS FILE ITEM ELEVEN AB
TWO OH NINE NO. THE VOTE COUNT
IS THREE TO ONE TEACHER VOTING
ARE PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. FORLAG.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG GUY STERN
STERN EYES. FIVE TO ONE THAT
BILL IS THE NEXT ITEM IS FILE
ITEM FIFTEEN AB TWO TWO OR ONE
VOTE COUNT IS FIVE TO ZERO
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
PARTS BURN HURTS FOR GUYS STERN.
STERN I SEVEN ZERO THAT IS OUT
THE NEXT ITEM IS FILE ITEM
SIXTEEN A. B. TWO TWO TWO SEVEN.
THE VOTE COUNT AS FIVE TO ZERO
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
HURTS BURNED.
HERTZBERG EYES STERN STERN I
SEVEN TWO ZERO THAT FIELD IS
OUT.
FILE ITEM EIGHTEEN AB TWENTY TWO
EIGHTY SIX THE VOTE COUNT IS
FIVE TO ZERO PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS PARTS BURN.
HERZBERG I STERN STERN I SEVEN
ZERO THAT BILL IS SHOCKED FILE
ITEMS TWENTY EXCUSE ME. TWENTY
THREE AB TWENTY SIX THIRTY SIX
VOTE COUNT IS TWO TO ONE SURE
VOTING ARE.
FOR LOCKE.
HERTZBERG HURTS FOR GUYS STERN
STERN I CASKEY.
FOUR TO ONE THAT BILL IS SO.
FILE ITEM TWENTY NINE AB TWENTY
EIGHT OH THREE THE VOTE COUNT IS
TO TO TO THE CHAIR VOTING ARE
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBES
HERTZ RENT. HERZBERG I STERN
STERN IOWA CASKEY.
FORTY TWO THAT BILL IS OUT.
FILE ITEM THIRTY ONE AB TWENTY
NINE FORTY THREE THE VOTE COUNT
IS AFFORDED TO PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS BY CASTING. MY
CASSIE I HAVE. FIVE TO TO THAT
BILL IS SO.
FILE ITEM THIRTY TWO AB THREE
THOUSAND TO THE VOTE COUNT IS
SIX TO ZERO PLEASE CALL THE
OPTION MEMBERS ARTS BURN. HURTS
FOR A GUY SEVEN ZERO THAT BILL
IS OUT FILE ITEM THIRTY THREE AB
THIRTY NINETEEN THE VOTE COUNT
IS THREE TO ONE THAT YOU'RE
VOTING I PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. BARLACH HERTZBERG.
HERZBERG I STERN STERN I HAVE
FIVE TO ONE THAT BILL IS OUT AND
THAT IS THAT CONCLUDES OUR
HEARING I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT
OUT TO OUR SERGEANTS FOR. A
TERRIFIC JOB MAKING IT SEAMLESS
TO STAFF FOR DOING AN
OUTSTANDING JOB AND TO THE
MEMBERS FOR. INJURING WHAT WAS A
VERY CHALLENGING DAY SO WITH
THAT. WE ARE ADJOURNED