A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE RULES
COMMITTEE SINCE WE ARE EXPECTING
OF A QUORUM SHORTLY.
TWO OF OUR COLLEAGUES ARE ON.
BUDGET CONFERENCE COMMITTEE AND.
MISTER MINING IS VOTING SO I
EXPECT THAT THEY WILL JOIN US AS
SOON AS THEIR OTHER BUSINESS.
ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT.
.
SO WITH THAT A. WEEK I.
THE ONLY ANNOUNCEMENT I CAN
ACTUALLY MAKE IS THAT THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE TO THE
AGENDA. AND.
.
FUNDING THE ITEM NUMBER ONE THE
GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES.
TERRY TURNER WILL BE PUT OVER
AND NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF
TODAY'S HEARING. BUT WE DO HAVE
ITEMS A. B. C. AND D.. WHICH ARE
I CAN CALLED.
THE INDIVIDUALS UP.
MISTER BARTON.
THANK YOU.
MR CASTRO MISS DOGS AND MISTER
LONG.
UP PLEASE COME ON UP.
AND WHAT WE WILL DO.
.
THERE'S HOLD OFF ON ESTABLISHING
A QUORUM AND WE GET STARTED.
AND HOW WE TYPICALLY DO THAT I
WILL.
START WITH YOU MISTER BARTON
AND WE WILL GO IN THAT DIRECTION
IF YOU WANNA.
I INTRODUCE YOURSELF WELCOME
ANYONE THAT MIGHT HAVE COME TO
TO SUPPORT YOU TODAY AND GIVE A
STATEMENT AND IT WILL JUST GO
DOWN THE LINE AND.
.
I HOPEFULLY.
MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN SO THAT
THEY DON'T MISS A LOT OF THIS
ALMA.
AS WE GET INTO THE COMMENTS IN
QUESTIONING AND BEFORE I SHOULD
JUST WELCOME. MS LINDA HART WHO
IS REPLACING AINA TODAY AND WE
WILL IF YOU NEED ANYTHING PLEASE
GIVE US THE HIGH SIGN LET US
KNOW WE WILL SLOW DOWN WE WILL
BE LOUDER WHATEVER IT IS YOU
NEED.
MR BARTON THE FLOOR IS YOURS
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON SENATOR
SLEAZE AND GENTLEMAN. MY NAME IS
ROBERT BARTON I'VE SERVED IN
PUBLIC SERVICE FOR WELL OVER
THIRTY YEARS IN VIRTUALLY EVERY
FACET OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
PROSECUTION TO OVERSIGHT OF THE.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ALSO
SERVED AS THE CHAIR OF THE
CALIFORNIA REHABILITATION
OVERSIGHT BOARD.
AND. IN ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS
PRIOR JOBS. I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME
INTIMATELY.
ACQUAINTED WITH OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM FROM THE GROUND
UP AND THEN IN THE LATEST.
THIRTEEN YEARS WITH THE PRISONS
HAVING VISITED EVERY SINGLE
PRISON AND.
AND THEY COME VERY FAMILIAR WITH
THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFFERED IN
THOSE PRISONS AND VARIOUS.
A LEVELS OF THE PRISONS AND THE
VARIOUS. ISSUES THAT ARISE
WITHIN THE PRISONS AND SO WITH
THAT WHEN MY TERM.
AS INSPECTOR GENERAL ENDED IN
SEPTEMBER. HIGH.
FELT THAT THIS WAS AN
APPROPRIATE.
I'M NEXT CHAPTER IN MY PUBLIC
SERVICE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE
TO CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
IN SORT OF A.
A COMPLETION OF THE CIRCLE IF
YOU WELL HAVING AS I SAID DONE.
EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF THAT AND
THUS FAR IN THE NINE MONTHS THAT
I SERVED AS A COMMISSIONER I
FOUND IT TO BE.
VERY CHALLENGING VERY FULFILLING
WORKING WITH A VERY DIVERSE VERY
EXPERIENCED.
I THINK.
VERY COMMENDABLE GROUP OF OTHER
COMMISSIONERS AND DEPUTY
COMMISSIONERS. AND THE BOARD
UNDER MACHE FOR WHICH I THINK.
HAS BEEN DOING AN ADMIRABLE JOB
FOR MANY YEARS.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK
THE GOVERNOR FOR THE APPOINTMENT
AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION TODAY I AM
SUPPORTED BY MY. WIFE AND
DAUGHTERS UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T
BE HERE TODAY BUT.
AND THEY CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND
THE COMMITMENT AND UNDERSTAND
THE DEMANDS OF THE JOB AND ARE
SUPPORTING ME IN THOSE ENDEAVORS
SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH HELP ME STOP
FOR ONE MOMENT SO I CAN
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. AND I'M
MISTER ROTH HAS JOINED US SEE
AND I MADE SURE TO LET EVERYONE
KNOW. THAT YOU'RE ON THE
CONFERENCE COMMITTEE AND
THEREFORE.
WASN'T SHIRKING YOUR
RESPONSIBILITY HERE YOU WERE
JUGGLING.
MULTIPLE RESPONSIBILITIES SO
PAN SECRETARY WE CALL THE ROLL
SENATORS BERRYHILL MINING ROTH.
ROTH HERE CANNELLA HERE CANNELLA
HERE ATKINS HERE ATKINS HERE.
THANK YOU.
WE WILL GO TO YOU MISTER CASTRO
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON AND
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
I'M FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
I STARTED MY LEGAL CAREER IS A
LEGAL AID ATTORNEY I PRACTICE
STABLES CIVIL ON THE SMALL LOT
FOR.
I DID A STINT AS A PUBLIC
DEFENDER IN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY AS WELL.
WAS A PRIVATE PACT PRACTICE AS
A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR
THE MAJORITY OF MY CAREER.
AND I CAME HERE.
.
AS A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER IN
TWENTY FIFTEEN. WAS APPOINTED IN
AUGUST OF TWENTY SEVENTEEN
SOMETHING THE COMMISSION NOW
PROBABLY TEN MONTHS.
I ITS BEEN GREAT EXPERIENCE HOPE
TO CONTINUE DOING THAT. I'LL
JUST BE GLAD TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS.
AND BEFORE I GO TO MISS STOCKS
LET ME JUST FOR THE RECORD.
INDICATE THAT SENATOR MONNING
HAS NOW JOINED US SO.
MISSTEPS.
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS DIANE DOBBS.
I JOIN THE BOARD AS A
COMMISSIONER IN DECEMBER OF LAST
YEAR.
SERVING AS THE DEPUTY
COMMISSIONER FOR ABOUT EIGHT
MONTHS.
AND PRIOR TO THAT.
I WAS SENIOR COUNSEL ONE OF THE
SENIOR ATTORNEY AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS.
AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR TEN
YEARS.
BOB PUBLIC SERVICE IF LIBERTY
CHOICE FOR ME.
I.
I'M MOST OF MY PRIOR POSITION
INVOLVED.
ADAM PUBLIC SERVICE DIDN'T.
AND MOST OF MY OTHER POSITIONS
HAVE INVOLVED.
ASSESSING CONSIDERATIONS OF
REHABILITATION. AND.
.
AND SO IT WAS A NATURAL FIT FOR
ME TO JOIN THE BOARD OF PAROLE
ABSOLUTE I COULD USE THE SKILLS
THAT I'VE.
GAINES THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.
ARM I HAVE A.
IN CONDUCTING MY HEARINGS. I
BRING TO THE BOARD.
OFFENSE OF FAIRNESS.
AND ARM.
A SENSE OF RESPECT FOR ALL
PARTICIPANTS.
AND I BRING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I
GAINED IN OUR FIRST WORKING AS A
DEPENDENCY ATTORNEY. AND THEN
WITH MY EXPERIENCE AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS.
ARM ADVISING CLIENTS ON
DISCIPLINE OF LICENSEES. AND FF
IN THEIR REHABILITATION PROCESS.
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY
GOOD FIT FOR ME I'VE ENJOYED THE
TIME THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING AS A
COMMISSIONER.
ARM AND I BELIEVE THAT I BRING A
SENSE OF INTEGRITY. ARM AND A
SENSE OF RESPECT TO THE PROCESS.
I HAVE BEEN HONORED.
SERVE FOR THE FEW MONTHS THAT
I'VE SERVED AND I LOOK FORWARD
FOR A TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CONTINUE DOING SO.
HOME TODAY I HAVE WITH ME MY
MOTHER. WAVE MOM LIVES MINES
FIFTH THIRD JEFF IN.
HER HUSBAND LEROY MY BROTHER IN
LAW.
AND MY PARTNER SCOTT AND A
FRIEND OF MINE ANGELA.
WELCOME.
I'M GONNA DO ONE MORE THING TO
YOU.
IN THE FEAR THAT I MIGHT LOSE A
QUORUM AT SOME POINT. I'M GONNA
ASK MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE WE
HAVE A HEALTH COMMITTEE GOING ON
AND CONFEREES.
I'M GONNA ASK TO ENTERTAIN A
MOTION FOR. ITEM NUMBER TWO
GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEE IS NOT
REQUIRED TO APPEAR ITEM NUMBER
THREE BILL REFERRALS ITEM NUMBER
FOUR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE SENATE
RULE UNDER SENATE RULE TWENTY
SIX YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK
AT THAT.
ITEM NUMBER SIX.
THROUGH THIRTEEN.
THANK YOU. I MAN SECRETARY CALL
THE ROLL.
SENATORS BERRYHILL MINING.
MONNING AYE. ROTH ROTH AYE
CANNELLA CANNELLA AYE ATKINS AYE
ATKINS AYE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THAT WAS FOUR ZERO.
WITH MISTER BERRYHILL ABSENT
MR ON THANK YOU.
PLEASE FORGIVE US THE
INTERRUPTIONS BUT.
EFFICIENT BUSINESS.
PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS AND AND
THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MY
NAME IS DAVID LONG BUT LIKE TO
START BY INTRODUCING MY WIFE
JANE IS THE MOTHER OF OUR SIX
BOYS AND OF MY STRONG SUPPORTER.
SO I'M HONORED AND HUMBLED TO
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
CONSIDERED FOR CONFIRMATION HERE
TODAY.
I PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR TWENTY
SEVEN YEARS AND CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND
REHABILITATION.
I STARTED AS A CORRECTIONAL
OFFICER IN NINETEEN EIGHTY NINE.
AND ULTIMATELY I.
WAS THE WORD THAT I WOULD STATE
PRISON IN THE CALIFORNIA CITY
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY SERVING
FOR FIVE YEARS IN THAT CAPACITY.
I BELIEVE MY STE EXPERIENCE
PARTICULARLY IN CORRECTIONAL
CLASSIFICATION SECURITY
PROTOCOLS.
HAS BEEN OF GREAT BENEFIT TO ME
DURING MY TRANSITION IS THE
COMMISSIONER.
AND I'M THOROUGHLY ENJOYING THE
CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
ROLE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS HERE
TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
.
I KNOW T'S ALWAYS HARD WHEN
THERE ARE MULTIPLE APPOINTEES
AND AND PARTICULARLY THIS IS A.
A VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SAID OF
APPOINTMENTS AND.
WITH THAT I WILL START WITH
MISTER MONNING.
NCCU MADAM CHAIR AND.
AND I WANNA PUBLICLY THANK CALLS
ALL THESE.
CANDIDATES WHO HAVE BEEN
SERVING.
FOR THEIR SERVICE AND SERVICE
BEFORE YOU CAME TO THE PRO BOARD
AND.
CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE
CONFIDENCE THE GOVERNOR HAS
PLACED IN YOU WITH HIS
APPOINTMENT.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT I HAD A
CHANCE TO MEET WITH ALL OF YOU
ON PRIOR TO THIS AFTERNOON'S.
HEARING.
.
I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS.
WE'VE COVERED SOME OF THIS WHEN
I MET WITH YOU BUT I THINK WOULD
BE OF INTEREST TO THE COMMITTEE
AND IN THE PUBLIC.
PARTICULARLY.
QUITE YOU LOOK AT HOW YOU
STRIKE THE BALANCE NO WATER
THERE ASPECTS YOU'RE LOOKING AT
WITH A CANDIDATE FOR PAROLE. A
HOW DO YOU FIND THE RIGHT
BALANCE IN PROTECTING PUBLIC
SAFETY IN RECOGNIZING PROGRESS
THAT A. CANDIDATE FOR PAROLE HIS
MATE AND I REALLY SIR MAYBE SOME
ECHO OF SIMILARITY LET ME PUT
ANOTHER ONE OUT THERE ON THE U.
DAY EAST YOU CAN HIT ONE OR THE
OTHER THAT WE WILL GET MAYBE.
AN OPPORTUNITY COVER LITTLE
OTHER GROUND.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I ASKED
WAS.
IN YOUR EXPERIENCE.
THE. OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUTH
SENTENCE TO LIFE WITHOUT
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE.
TO HAVE NOW THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE CONSIDERED FOR PAROLE AFTER
CERTAIN TERM OF SERVICE.
HOW HAVE YOU SEEN? THAT MANIFEST
IN ATTITUDES OF BOTH INMATES
AND.
IF SO SAFETY OF A PRISON GUARDS
IN THE INSTITUTIONAL ENVIRONMENT
COULD I START WITH YOU MISTER
LONG IT'LL MOVE THAT WAY.
AGAIN YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE
THEM BOTH MAYBE TAKE ONE OF OUR
GIVE YOU MULTIPLE CHOICE.
PICK ONE OF THEM AND THEN WE'LL
GET SOME SAMPLING I THINK OF
YOUR VIEWS ON THE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE.
THE IMPACT OF THE THE YOUTH
OFFENDER LAWS. AND ARE MY
EXPERIENCE AS A WARDEN AND NOW
WITH THE BOARD SINCE JANUARY.
.
WHAT I'M FINDING IN IN THE?
AND.
HEARINGS WITH THE YOUTH
OFFENDERS AS MANY OF THEM DIDN'T
REALIZE THAT THEY WOULD BECOME
ELIGIBLE.
OBVIOUSLY UNTIL FAIRLY RECENTLY
FOR HEARING
AND SO THEY HAVEN'T REALLY.
ADDRESSED A LOT OF THEIR SELF
HELP ISSUES AND
AND I.
ATTENDED.
MANY COURSES OR COLLEGE OR
EDUCATION BUT AS COMPARED TO THE
LIFE TERM INMATES HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON IT FOR QUITE
SOMETIME.
BUT WHAT I SAW ON BOTH AS A AS
A WARDEN AND AS A COMMISSIONER
THAT. THE NEW LAWS HAVE GIVEN
THEM HOPE. AND THEY'RE STARTING
ON TO THE CORRECT PATH.
OF REALLY TRANSFORMING THEIR
IDEAS AND AND NOW
THE CRIMINAL THINKING.
AND.
IT FITS
CLEARLY MADE THE PRISONS SAFER
AND THE ULTIMATE RESULT WILL IT
WILL MAKE.
COMMUNITIES SAFER
PAROLE.
SO I WILL TAKE THE FIRST
QUESTION.
I AM WHEN I ASSESS INMATES UP
FOR PAROLE. UP SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT I LOOK AT IS I LOOK
TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT. THEY
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS ABOUT
THEM. THAT CAUSED THEM TO COMMIT
THE CRIMES IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND SO IN DOING SO I LOOKED SEE
THAT THEY'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO
DO THE VERY DIFFICULT WORK OF
EXPLORING THEMSELVES.
I'M EXPLORING THEIR OWN
BACKGROUND TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THEMSELVES.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO
MAKE SURE MORE AT THE FIRST
RECOGNIZE THOSE PROBLEMS. AND
THAT THEY'VE TAKING THE
APPROPRIATE STEPS.
TO.
FIND THE CURE OR SO TO SPEAK FOR
THE PROBLEM IF NOT A Q. MORE
THEN HAVE TOOLS IN PLACE.
AT THEY CAN MANAGE THOSE
CHARACTER DEFECTS
AND SO WHAT WE LOOK FOR IS WE
LOOK TO SEE THAT.
THEY ARE NOW OPERATING
DIFFERENTLY TODAY AND THAT
THEY'RE NOT PLAGUED WITH THOSE
SAME DEFICIENCIES.
S. FOLLOW UP WITH HERE RESPONSE
THERE WHICH I APPRECIATE. A.
QUARTER SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT
HELP YOU MAKE.
THAT ASSESSMENT ROME. THEY MIGHT
PRESENT THEMSELVES IN A CERTAIN
WAY A CANDIDATE FOR PAROLE.
WHAT'S THE OTHER CRITERIA YOU
CAN LOOK AT TO SEE IF WHAT
THEY'RE TELLING YOU IS.
MANAGED BY.
THE FACTS OF THEIR.
PROGRAMMATIC WORK MAYBE.
RIGHT SO WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF
THE ENTIRE.
.
CALL IT THE C. FILE THAT'S
THERE.
.
THEY'RE A PRISON RECORD.
AND SO IN ADDITION TO WHAT
THEY'RE SAYING TO US.
WE ALSO LOOK TO THE RECORD.
SEE.
WHAT THEIR ACTIONS DAY?
ARE THE WE LOOK AT THEIR WORDS
WOULD LOOK AT THEIR ACTIONS
WE LOOK TO SEE HOW THEY HAVE
OPERATED ARM WITH OTHER INMATES
WITH OTHER PRISON STAFF. AND SO
WE LOOK AT THE FULL PICTURE IN
MAKING HER DETERMINATION.
MR CASTRO.
THANK YOU ON THE ISSUE OF THE
SUITABILITY WE LOOK AT ALL THE
SUITABILITY FACTORS WERE
REQUIRED TO UNDER THE LAW.
BUT I THINK UNDER CURRENT LAW
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU
KNOW ACCESS
WHO THEY ARE NOW THEIR CHANGE
THEIR INSIGHT.
AND IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION
I THINK SOMETHING'S HAVE BECOME
VERY IMPORTANT LIKE THE
CREDIBILITY FIRST OF ALL IF.
.
IF WE DISCOVER THAT THEY'RE NOT
BEING HONEST WITH US WE DON'T
THINK THAT THAT REALLY LEADS TO
COMPLETE REHABILITATION WHEN
HER.
NOT BEING COMPLETELY HONEST.
OF.
THEIR INSIGHT INTO THE CRIME TO
ASSESS WHETHER THEY HAVE
EXAMINED THEMSELVES.
.
EXPLORE THE REASONS WHY THEY
COMMITTED CERTAIN CRIMES AND HOW
THEY'VE ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES.
AND THEY CAN TELL US WHO THEY
WERE AT THE TIME. OF THE ARE NOW
WHAT WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE
TO THEIR THINKING PROCESS.
OF COURSE WE VERIFY WE WANT TO
KNOW THAT ALL THAT EDUCATION
THEY'VE RECEIVED TRANSLATES INTO
ACTUAL.
CONDUCT THAT CONFORMS WITH THE
RULES
SO WE LOOK AT THEIR DISCIPLINE
RECORD AS WELL.
AND I ALSO LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF
REMORSE TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL
ABOUT WHAT THEY DID. HOW WE FEEL
AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO SHOW
THAT REMORSE?
A VERBAL EXPRESSION IS ONE THING
BUT MANY OF THEM GET INVOLVED
IN.
OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT SHOW THAT
REMOTELY REMORSE LIKE
VOLUNTEERING ARE HELPING OTHER
PEOPLE.
AND TINGS OF THAT NATURE SO I
THINK THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT IN DETERMINING. THEIR
CURRENT DANGER THE SUITABILITY
FACTORS ARE ALSO HELPFUL BUT
THEY TEND TO TALK A LOT ABOUT
ABOUT STATIC STUFF ITS HISTORIC.
SO IN THE CURRENT ROUND I THINK
THAT THESE ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT
INSIGHT CREDIBILITY THEIR RECENT
CONTACT.
AND THEIR LEVEL OF REMORSE.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON THE
YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS WITH A CHANGE
IN THE LAW.
BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY POSITIVE
CHANGE IT'S BEEN MADE.
I'VE SEEN INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE
TURNED IT AROUND WHEN THEY HAVE
BEEN AYE GIVEN HOPE.
AND THEY HAVE LEARNED THAT
THEY'VE CHANGED NOT ONLY THEIR.
EDUCATION THE REHABILITATION BUT
NOW I ALSO SEE IT AND CONTACT
YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE.
HOW THEY WERE BEHAVING UP TO A
CERTAIN POINT? AND THEN YOU SEE.
UP FOR EXAMPLE MISCONDUCT FEES
IS AFTER A CERTAIN POINT.
AND SO I'VE SEEN DEAD IN THE LOT
OF THE. AND A FEW OF THE
OFFENDERS THAT. WERE CONVERTED
FROM A WALK TO. OF LIFE WITH
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE.
HOPE IS A POWERFUL.
TO.
CORRECT.
THANK YOU.
LARA MISTER BURTON I'LL TRY TO
PICK UP MY MY COLLEAGUES WHO
COVERED MOST OF IT BUT.
I'LL TRY TO PICK UP A COUPLE
AREAS I AGREE THE SUITABILITY
FACTORS THE CRIME THEIR SOCIAL
HISTORY THEIR PRIOR CRIMINALITY
THEIR BEHAVIOR IN PRISON.
THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE
ATTENDED IMPRISONED HOW THEY CAN
SPEAK TO THOSE PROGRAMS WHAT
THEY'VE LEARNED FROM THEM. AS
YOU AND I DISCUSSED I TALK TO
THEM ABOUT MILESTONES OF CHANGE.
IT'S NOT JUST AS.
OUR COMMISSIONER CASTRO SAID. IF
THEY KNOW WHO THEY WERE THAN IN
THEIR SOMEONE DIFFERENT NOW BUT
WHEN AND HOW AND WHY DID THEY
CHANGE BECAUSE IT HELPS ME KNOW
THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO BE
PERMANENT. AND THEN I LOOK FOR
THOSE POSITIVE THINGS TO IN
THEIR BEHAVIOR WHETHER ITS
PROGRAMMING EDUCATIONAL UPGRADE
VOCATIONAL UPGRADE.
AND OFTENTIMES A SUPPORT LETTERS
THAT THEY GET FROM EITHER STAFF
OR PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE SHOWING
THAT THERE IS A SUPPORT NETWORK
THERE FOR THEM. CERTAINLY ANY
OTHER FACTORS MENTIONED IN TERMS
OF REMORSE AND INSIGHT. ARE VERY
IMPORTANT AS WELL WE ALSO HAVE
AN EXPERT.
FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST'S REPORT
THAT ALL OF US REVIEW PRIOR TO
ANY HEARING AND SO THAT'S ALSO A
GOOD STARTING POINT. AND THEN
FOR ME IF I REALLY LOOK AT. NOT
JUST THEIR CRIMINALITY BUT.
THERE'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN PRISON
THAT CAME WITH DRUG PROBLEMS.
AND TO ME IT'S IN VERY IMPORTANT
THAT THEY RESOLVE THOSE
PROBLEMS.
IN ORDER FOR THEM NOT POSE A
CURRENT RISK OF DANGER IF YOU
MAY NOT BE THAT I THINK THEY'RE
GONNA GO OUT. AND COMMIT THE
SAME CRIME THEY COMMITTED TO
COME TO PRISON BUT IF SOMEONE
GOES OUT AND.
EVEN HAS AN ALCOHOL PROBLEM AND
DRIVES DRUNK. THEIR DANGER TO
ALL OF US IN SO. THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT I.
REALLY TRY TO HONE IN ON WITH
THEM AND SEE NOT JUST HAVE THEY
BEEN ABSENT WHILE THEY'VE BEEN
IMPRISONED BUT WHAT THEY DON.
TERMS OF RELAPSE PREVENTION PROP
PLAN IN TERMS OF THEIR.
WHETHER IT'S AN A OR SUBSTANCE
ABUSE PROGRAMS. BUT IN FINALLY
FOR ME WHAT'S REAL IMPORTANT AND
SORT OF TOUCHES ON AGAIN WITH MY
COLLEAGUES SAID. AND THAT IS
VICTIM IMPACT DO THEY HAVE A
SELF AWARENESS OF THE IMPACT
THAT THEY HAD ON VICTIMS CAN
THEY VOICE THAT. IMPACT CAN
THEY.
DESCRIBE TO ME WHAT IS EMPATHY
NOT JUST COMPASSION FEELING
SORRY FOR SOMEONE BUT ACTUALLY
PLACING YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES
AND HAVE THEY DONE.
WORK.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S.
THAT'S OFTEN INDICATIVE OF
WHETHER THEY'VE DONE THE SOUL
SEARCHING COME TO GRIPS WITH WHO
THEY ARE AND WHO THEY WERE. AND
BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A CHANGE
BECAUSE AT SELF AWARENESS IS THE
STARTED THAT CHANGE
SO I THINK THAT'S.
TRUE OF ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES
THINK YOU IN IF YOU COULD JUST
EXTEND A LITTLE BIT.
I DIDN'T POSE THE SEMI QUESTION
BUT A FOLLOW UP.
ANY DIFFERENT APPROACHES
DIFFERENT DYNAMICS BETWEEN
FEMALE INMATES
NAM COMING BEFORE THE PRO BOARD
PURSES MALE INMATES IN TERMS OF.
A. PRESENTATION BACKGROUND
ISSUES THAT MIGHT HAVE YOU
APPROACH IT DIFFERENTLY. VERY
MUCH SO WE RECEIVE TRAINING AS A
BOARD WE HAVE.
FOLKS TO COME IN ONCE A MONTH OR
BOARD MEETINGS ON A MYRIAD OF
ISSUES THAT IMPACT OUR JOBS.
WE'VE HAD GENDER RESPONSIVE
TRAINING AND WE'VE AD INTIMATE
PARTNER BATTERY TRAINING AND WE
KNOW JUST FROM READING THE FILES
I'VE DONE IN MY NINE MONTHS I
THINK I'VE ONLY DONE TWO WEEKS
IN THE WOMEN'S PRISONS BUT.
CERTAINLY RENEWALS FILES I WILL
SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE
FILES THAT I READ THE WOMEN HAD.
SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA IN THEIR
LIVES NOT DATED EXCUSES
NECESSARILY THE CRIME THAT WAS
BECAUSE BUT. THAT.
WHEN THEY COME INTO IT IF YOU
FOR EXAMPLE START RIGHT OUT
TALKING ABOUT THE LIFE CRIME
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT. IS DRAMATIC YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING THEM
TO OPEN UP AND TALK TO YOU. SO
WITH THE WOMEN I MIGHT START
DIFFERENTLY WITH SOME POSITIVE
PROGRAMMING OR THEY GOT THEIR
COLLEGE DEGREE OR. SOMETHING
ALONG THOSE LINES THEIR FAMILY
SUPPORT BEFORE I START GETTING
INTO THOSE YOU KNOW TOUGHER
ISSUES IF YOU WILL AND TRY TO
BUILD A LITTLE MORE WERE POOR.
AND CERTAINLY BEING.
.
AGAIN UNDERSTANDING WHERE
THEY'RE COMING FROM AND THE FACT
OF THE MATTER IS THE WOMEN'S
PRISONS ARE NOT JUST LIKE THE
MEN'S PRISONS THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT ISSUES.
IN ON THE MAN'S WE HAVE LEVEL
ONE TWO THREE AND FOUR AND WE
HAVE A LOT OF. GANG ACTIVITY AND
WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS
THAT IMPACT SOMEONE'S ABILITY TO
REHABILITATE. AND IN THE WOMEN'S
PRISONS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF
THAT BUT NOT NEARLY THE SAME
DEGREE.
Q. WHILE AGAIN I APPRECIATE YOUR
SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR.
SENATOR MONNING MISTER VICE
CHAIRMAN.
THEY NEVER ATTEMPT OF FIRST OFF
I THINK YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF OF.
THE OF THE ROLE OF.
PAROLE HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS ARE ARE A BIT
SEEMS IT WE TALKED A LOT AND WE
HEAR THE SAME TYPE OF THING AND
FIFTEEN.
FIFTEEN OKAY THAT'S WHY IT'S
JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERY WEEK WE
HAVE FULL HAVE NOT WORK NUMBERS
HERE BUT. UP FIRST OF ALL IT'S A
THANK YOU FOR SERVICE AYE I KNOW
FROM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
ME YET BUT.
AND THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME IN A
LOT TRAVELS CAN BE VERY
DIFFICULT.
OF NO MATTER WHAT DECISION YOU
MAKE SOME IS UNHAPPY WITH THE
VICTIMS OR THE THE OF THE FOLKS
THAT ARE TRYING TO GET PAROLED
SO. A I DO THINK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE I KNOW IT'S A VERY HARD
JOB BUT WITH THAT.
NOBODY'S PERFECT AND WE CAN ALL
DO BETTER. IN SO THAT THE FIRST
THING I WANT TO ASK ABOUT IS IS
MORE SEIZE LAWSUIT WE'VE HAD A
COUPLE OF.
CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY VICTIMS
GROUPS IN THE STOPS FIRST TO
YOU.
THAT SAID THAT. DURING A MAY
TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN NEXT JUST
A RECENT HEARING I GUESS.
A YOU SAID TO THE VICTIM'S
DAUGHTER I'M GOING TO ASK YOU
THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO
HOW HIS ACTIONS HAVE AFFECTED
YOU PERSONALLY. CHEST IN THE
INTEREST OF TIME AND THAT IS A
VIOLATION I BELIEVE OF MARCY'S
LAW SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
LITTLE BIT I MEAN IT WAS YOU
YOUR INTENT.
TO LOSE TOUCH SPECIAL THE
VICTIM'S DAUGHTER OF WHEN YOU
THINK YOU GIVE THE VICTIM'S
DAUGHTER. A AS MUCH TIME AS
POSSIBLE BUT THEN WITH THE LAW
AS WELL I DON'T KNOW THESE
HEARINGS COULD PROBABLY GO A
LONG TIME. AND IN THE INTEREST
OF TIME YOU WANT TO GET TO THEM
BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT
INCIDENT.
NO I DIDN'T THAT WAS AN INCIDENT
WHERE.
WE HAD AT LEAST IT WAS ABOUT
THIRTEEN. VICTIMS ATTENDING
I'M AN ADDITIONAL REALLY HAD.
.
TWO DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ON THE
CASE THEY WERE TWO MURDERS
INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR
CASE.
ARM AND SOUL.
THE HEARING WAS RUNNING VERY
LAW.
IT WAS CERTAINLY NOT MY
INTENTION TO IN ANY WAY.
LIMITS THE VICTIM STATEMENTS.
I THINK AFTER THE FOR.
FIRST TO.
THE FIRST AFTER THE FIRST TWO
VICTIMS SPOKE.
THEY WERE GOING INTO AREAS THAT.
YOU KNOW MAY NOT DIRECTLY
RELATED TO THE CASE OR EVEN. THE
INMATES BEHAVIOR.
AND SO I'M JUST IN THE INTEREST
OF TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS IN
APPROPRIATE YOU JUST REMIND
THEM.
TRY TO FOCUS ON HOW THE CRIME IS
IMPACTED THEM AND THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS.
AFTER THE HEARING. I WAS GIVEN
THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU KNOW IT'S
VERY STRESSFUL ON THE VICTIM.
AND THEY COME WITH A PREPARED
STATEMENT.
AND IT'S SO MUCH MORE STRESSFUL
FOR THEM WHEN THEY NOW HAVE TO
LIMIT THEIR STATEMENTS.
FOOD CERTAINLY WAS NOT MY
INTENTION TO MAKE IT ANY MORE
STRESSFUL FOR THEM. I UNDERSTAND
HOW MY STATEMENT HIM IMPACTED
THEM. AND HAVE MADE ADJUSTMENTS
SINCE THEN YOU KNOW IF MICHAEL
TO MAKE SURE THAT. THEY ARE
COMFORTABLE IT'S A VERY
DIFFICULT SITUATION FOR THEM
ALREADY.
AND SO.
AND I'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE
APPRECIATE THEM COMING AND.
NEVER WAS WAS AT MY ATTENTION TO
EITHER LIMIT THEM IN ANY WAY. OR
MAKE THEM ANY MORE UNCOMFORTABLE
IT AGAIN THE VICTIM'S DAUGHTER
ESPECIALLY RIGHT MAYBE SAVE THAT
FOR A OF SOMEONE. BESIDES THE
VICTIM'S DAUGHTER BUT I DID READ
THE TRANSCRIPTS IN NO TIME DID
YOU CUT THEM OFF CUT HER OFF YOU
LETTER OF SAY THE ENTIRE
STATEMENT SO I APPRECIATE THAT I
DID NOT I DIDN'T CUT HER OFF AND
ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK IT WAS
THE VICTIM'S DAUGHTER.
I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF
THE MAIL.
.
ONE OF THE MALE SPEAKERS.
BECAUSE. LET'S SEE. WHO GOT
TRANSCRIPTS HERE SO I THINK IT
MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S
THE VICTIM'S DAUGHTER OR
SOMEBODY ELSE OUT HERE
AND FOR ME IT IT WOULDN'T MAKE A
DIFFERENCE WHO IT WAS I THINK?
POURTANT TO BE RESPECTFUL AND
OUT TO ALL OF THE VICTIMS AND.
YOU KNOW HAVE DEMONSTRATE THEIR
PEACE OKAY WHEN TO PULL IT OUT
WILL COME BACK TO BUT I BELIEVE
IT WAS THE VICTIM'S DAUGHTER SO.
INTO MISTER BARTON FOR YOU OF
SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FOR SO I
THINK YOU VERY EFFICIENT. A
FORMER DISTRICT TURNING.
YES SO YOU OBVIOUSLY
UNDERSTAND-HOW THIS GOES AND AND
YOU MAY
UNDERSTAND HOW THE DA'S APPROACH
THESE TYPES OF OF HEARINGS.
BUT SOME OF THE CRITICISMS WERE.
HEARINGS WHO YOU CUT OFF THE
THE DA QUESTIONS ALREADY KNOW
THE ANSWER NEXT QUESTION.
LIMITED VICTIMS TO TEN MINUTES
EACH ON INITIAL HEARINGS ON A
PARTICULAR CASE.
VERY CONTROLLING TO POINT IT
THAT TO PUT IT NEGATIVELY
AFFECTS THE HEARING FOR
PROSECUTORS.
SO AGAIN I LOOK HE OBVIOUSLY YOU
HAVE YOUR OWN LIFE EXPERIENCES
AND AND MAYBE YOU CAN.
FOR SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE SAID
BUT.
AGAIN I WOULD I WOULD THINK IF I
WAS A VICTIM AND AND YOU HAVE
THE D. A. WHO'S WHO'S REALLY I
GUESS ON THE VICTIMS SIDE TRYING
TO SPEAK IN YOUR CUTTING THEM
OFF.
AND CONTROLLING AT THAT WOULD
BE.
THE BE HARD FOR THE VICTIM SO
CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT. WELL
FIRST OFF I NEVER LIMITED A
VICTIM TO TEN MINUTES SO. I I
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT
TRANSCRIPT BECAUSE IT'S NEVER
HAPPENED. BUT AS A FORMER DISC
ATTORNEY I'D DONE THEIR JOB I'VE
SAT IN THAT CHAIR I'VE DONE LIFE
FOR HEARINGS AS A DISK ATTORNEY.
I'VE SAT WITH HUNDREDS OF
VICTIMS AND HELD THEIR HANDS
THROUGH MURDER TRIALS.
I PROSECUTED MURDER TRIALS I
SOMEBODY ON DEATH ROW SO I
CERTAINLY WHAT'S KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON FROM THAT ASPECT OF.
THE VICTIMS AND IT'S CERTAINLY
IN NO WAY IS THAT. MY ON.
BUT TEND TO IN ANY WAY TO LIMIT
THEIR REPRESENTATION OF TO
HEARING IT'S REALLY NOT. BUT I
WILL TELL YOU JUST AS I'M SURE
ANYONE WILL THAT.
THE DEPUTY ATTORNEYS ASSIGNED.
RUN SPECTRUM RIGHT THOSE THAT
ARE VERY PREPARED IN THOSE THAT
PERHAPS NOT SO MUCH.
AND MUCH LIKE A JUDGE WHEN I WAS
PRACTICING IN COURT. THOSE FOLKS
THAT MAY BE.
CON.
ARE GOING TO BE WASTING THE
COURT'S TIME WITH THINGS THAT
ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THE
DECISION.
ARM AS A LITIGATOR I WOULD BE
TOLD THAT BY THE JUDGE.
AND SO IN MY ROLE I SEE IT AS.
MANY OF THE DOUBLE DISC
ATTORNEYS DO A GREAT JOB. THERE
ARE A FEW THAT.
WANT TO RETRY THE CASE WHICH IS
NOT THE PURPOSE FOR A PAROLE
HEARING SIMPLY ISN'T. AND SO
WHEN THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS
ABOUT. WELL AT THE TIME THAT HE
TALKED TO THE POLICE
INVESTIGATOR HE SAID X. Y. AND
Z. I WANT TO ASK HIM ABOUT.
YOU NO A. B. AND C. HAS NO
RELEVANCE ON THE DETERMINATION
TODAY. THAN I TELL THEM HERE'S
WHAT THE ANSWER HERE'S WHY I
THINK IT'S RELEVANT AND AND THAT
QUESTION IS NOT RELEVANT.
AND SO I THINK BECAUSE OF MY
FORMER EXPERIENCE I'M MAY BE
MORE COMFORTABLE THAN OTHER
COMMISSIONERS DOING THAT WITH
THAT PETER SCOTT TURNS. AS A
DEPUTY DA I WAS TAUGHT THAT.
I RAN THE COURTROOM THAT WHEN
YOU GO INTO THE COURTROOM YOU
SIR YOUR CONTROL THE JUDGES A
REFEREE AND THAT'S HOW YOU TRY
YOUR CASES.
AND I'M SURE THEY COME IN THAT
SAME MINDSET TO A PAROLE
HEARING.
AND.
OFTENTIMES IT'S SIMPLY NOT
ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE ACTIVITY
HEARING. AND THEN THERE ARE
OTHER TIMES WHEN. I'LL BE
PERFECTLY CANDID THEY MAY BE.
SAYING THINGS.
PURELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
VICTIM AND I GET THAT AND WHEN
THEY WANT TO.
CASTIGATE THE INMATE IN A
PARTICULAR MANNER.
I ONLY LET THAT GO SO FAR.
AND AFTER THAT POINT I DON'T SEE
IT IS BEING. AGAIN HELPFUL TO
THE PROCESS.
DID YOU CUT OFF THE OTHER SIDE
AS WELL OH YES.
YES I MEAN IF YOU ASK THE
ATTORNEYS THAT APPEAR IF THEY'RE
DOING THE SAME THING UP.
GIVING EXAMPLE OF THE CASE AND I
JUST HAD LAST WEEK WHERE THE
ATTORNEY FOR. THE ENEMY.
STARTED TO BASICALLY IN MY
OPINION TESTIFIED FOR THE MAKE
WHEN WE MET YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT
THIS THIS THIS AND I CITY
COUNCIL THAT'S NOT A CLARIFYING
QUESTION.
WE JUST NEED CLARIFYING
QUESTIONS AND THAT REALLY IS THE
POINT OF THEIR. PARTICIPATION IS
TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS
NOT TO RETRY THE CASE ON THE ONE
SIDE AND NOT TO TESTIFY FOR THE
CLIENT ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO I
THINK I'M VERY EVEN HANDED IN
DOING THAT.
BUT MR JUST AGAIN I THINK IT WAS
A. WAS MISSED STEVEN GEORGE SAID
HELLO MY NAME IS MATT.
MARIUS EVEN GEORGE AND YOU SAID
WHEN I SEE YOU YOU CAN
EXPENDITURES FAMILY OR THAT AS
WELL SO.
THE KNOW THAT STATEMENT WITH A
FOLLOW UP ON THE ORIGINAL
STATEMENT THAT I MADE HIM.
IT WAS IT WAS AFTER. THE THE THE
SECOND ALBUM VICTIM SPOKE AT I
LOOK AT THE TRANSCRIPT LAST
NIGHT SWEATS.
AND SO IT WASN'T DIRECTED AT HER
IT WAS JUST A FOLLOW UP TO MY
PRIOR STATEMENT TO CLARIFY
BECAUSE MY FIRST STATEMENT WAS
THAT.
YOU KNOW I WANT YOU TO LIMITED
TO HOW THE CRIME IS IMPACTED YOU
AND THEN I FOLLOWED UP BY SAYING
AND HER FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL
BIT SAID. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT
YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO HOW
HOW HIS ACTIONS HAVE AFFECTED
YOU PERSONALLY CHEST IN THE
INTEREST OF TIME RIGHT AND THAT
ALL THE DEATHS THAT YOUR FANS SO
BUT AGAIN CAN YOU. SO WITH MORE
SEIZE LAWS CAN YOU LIMITS
THE VICTIM'S TESTIMONY. NOTE
MARCY'S LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU
TO LIMIT THEIR THEIR.
TESTIMONY BUT THERE IS A PHRASE
IN MARCY'S LAW THAT SAYS. THAT
THE STATEMENT SHOULD BE FOCUSED
ON HOW THE CRIME IS IMPACTED
THEM. BUT AGAIN LIKE I SAID.
HAVING HEARD THEIR PROSPECTIVE
UNDERSTAND MY PROJECT THAT THANK
YOU VERY MENTAL GOING FORMER
FORWARD IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT
I.
THANK YOU AND THEN THAT MISTER
CASTRO MISTER WALK SO DEFENSE
ATTORNEY AND CORRECTIONAL
OFFICER.
SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED I
MEAN I HAVE MY OWN BIASES IN
LIFE RIGHT AND SO. HAS IT BEEN
HARD FOR YOU ONCE YOU GET IN
THIS POSITION. TO KIND OF FORGET
ABOUT ALL YOUR OTHER LIFE'S WORK
YOU MEAN AS A CORRECTIONAL
OFFICER IN A DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
TO THE TO BE NEUTRAL IN THESE
HEARINGS NOW I LOOK AT YOUR YOUR
GRANT RATES I THINK YOU BOTH ARE
BUT.
I MEAN HAS IT HAS BEEN A HARD
PROCESS FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
FOR ME.
DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT PUBLIC
SAFETY ALWAYS THOUGHT. ABOUT
WHAT IS REASONABLE WITH THIS
WITH THESE FACTS AND I'M NOT A
CRIMINAL I'M NOT.
VOUCHING FOR THE PERSON THEM WHO
DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION IN
THE PROCESS.
ARE SOME OF ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT
THE CRIME AS A WHOLE LIKE I DO
NOW SO HASN'T BEEN DIFFICULT
OKAY WHEN I I I LOOK AT PUBLIC
SAFETY ALSO WHEN I REPRESENTED
INMATES BECAUSE HIGHS
PRESENTING.
A SETTLEMENT OFFER TO A DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IF I DIDN'T TAKE THAT
INTO ACCOUNT I WAS NOT GONNA
HAVE MUCH SUCCESS OKAY I'VE
ALWAYS I FEEL LIKE I'VE ALWAYS
BEEN DOING.
SAME WORK OKAY GREAT THANK YOU
I'M JUST IN A DIFFERENT.
PLACE IN THE SYSTEM VERY SLOW.
I FEEL LIKE THE ERROR OF MY
EXPERIENCE IN CORRECTIONS HAS
BEEN A HUGE BENEFIT HONESTLY.
THAT I KIND OF GREW UP IN THE
DEPARTMENT AT A TIME WHEN.
.
PRIOR TO PROGRESSIVE PROGRAMMING
AND THEN OF AS PROGRAMMING CAME
ON I WAS A COUNSELOR DIE AND WE
START THE FIRST COLLEGE PROGRAM
THERE.
AND.
.
REALLY.
AS AS I PROMOTED BECAME WARDEN
I WAS.
VERY INTERESTED IN THE FACTS OF
PROGRESSIVE PROGRAMMING AND I
SAW FIRST HAND.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY TRANSFORM AND
CHANGE AND GROW AND
REHABILITATE.
AND SO ON I I FEEL LIKE.
BY EVAN.
CAN BE UNIQUELY QUALIFIED ES I
COULDN'T IN MOST CASES.
BY LOOKING AT THE RECORD AND
TALKING WITH THEM MADE I I CAN
COULD TELL WHERE THEY ARE THAT
PROCESS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT FOR
SO MANY YEARS.
AND SO I FOUND IT TO BE A BIG
BENEFIT.
OKAY WILL BE WHAT'S AGAIN THANK
YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SITE AND NO
IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB SO
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THAT YOU.
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN.
I WANNA ECHO COMMENTS BY A
NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT
HOW.
I I I PERCEIVE THIS POSITION
THAT YOU'RE APPOINTED TO SPAM
PRETTY DIFFICULT AT
ACTUALLY.
HAVING TO BALANCE.
THE ISSUES.
THAT BOTH MR MINING IN
MISTER CANNELLA HAVE TALKED
ABOUT.
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT.
I AND FOR US ON THIS PANEL. OF
YOU KNOW I THINK.
WE TAKE IT REALLY YOU ARE AS A
HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO AND WE
GET A GLIMPSE OF IT.
SO I I ARE STABS ARE VERY GOOD
ABOUT. GIVING US AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE TO HELP
US.
MOVE THIS SYSTEM ALONG AND.
YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL
EXTENT OF EVERYTHING YOU DO SO I
OR HAVE TO DO OR BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE PREPARATION THAT. SO I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR.
TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE
ALLIED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO
PREPARE TO TALK TO OUR STAFFS.
I WOULD I HAVE A COUPLE
QUESTIONS.
ONE IT IN TERMS OF YOU YOU ALL
WENT THROUGH.
.
THE PROCESS OF RE SUBMITTING
APPLICATIONS AND VETTING WITH
OUR STAFF SET THE RULES
COMMITTEE.
AND YOU GOT A WIDE RANGE OF
QUESTIONS ABA FROM THAT PROCESS
TO FACE US TODAY I GUESS I WANT
TO ASK YOU. IS THERE ANY PART OF
THE INTERVIEW PROCESS THAT YOU
HAD. THAT YOU WANT TO CLARIFY
WITH US TO HELP US UNDERSTAND A
LITTLE BETTER THE JOB THAT YOU
DO.
AND IT COULD BE ON ANY ISSUE
BECAUSE I'M I'M GONNA FOLLOW
VANESSA QUESTIONS ABOUT.
.
OF PARTICULAR POPULATIONS MISTER
MINING WAS GOOD TO TALK ABOUT
OFF AND I THINK YOU MIGHT EVEN
RAISE A QUESTION ABOUT WOMEN IN
PRISON VERSES. MEN AND THE
DIFFERENCE AND ND YOU'VE
CLEARLY THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THAT
BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN IT. I'M
GONNA ASK ABOUT TRANS GENDER AND
NOT ONLY TRANSGENDER BUDDY AYE
GENDERFLUID.
PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO
DEAL WITH AN INSTITUTION. THAT
HAS NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR
SERVICES NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN THE
PRISONS IT CAN'T FEEL GOOD.
WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
THE NEED TO IMPROVE THE
FACILITIES FOR THE WORKERS AS
WELL AS FOR THE INMATES WHICH
HELPS WITH REHABILITATION
OVERALL.
JUST.
THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS ALL THOSE
THINGS.
ARE.
.
ARE ARE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TO
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS YOU LOOK AT
THE FILE. A EIGHTY.
TELL ME AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL
WHO HAS A SMALL ROLE IN AND AN
APPOINTMENT PROCESS IN A
CONFIRMATION WHAT IT IS YOU
WOULD LIKE US TO UNDERSTAND
ABOUT YOUR JOB.
SO THAT WE.
MAYBE HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF
YOUR.
WHAT WHAT YOU FACE EACH TIME YOU
HAVE A CASE BEFORE YOU?
AND WHERE YOU THINK WE MAY NOT
UNDERSTAND.
I. THAT YOU DON'T MUCH GIVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO.
TO TELL US WHERE WE'VE MISSED IT
OR WHERE WE ARE OFF BASE OR
MAYBE IN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
SINCE YOU'VE HAD WITH THE. THE
STAFF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO
REFLECT ON THAT AND MAYBE WANT
TO ADD SOMETHING TO ANYTHING
THAT WAS ASKED OF YOU THAT YOU.
HAVE CONCERNS BUT I'LL START
WITH YOU MISTER BARTON IF THAT'S
OKAY THAT'S FINE SO.
ONE OF THE SORT OF.
PHRASES THAT I POINT IS
OBSTACLES VERSES OPPORTUNITIES.
AND ON THE OBSTACLE SITE FOR
EXAMPLE YOU REYES WITH TRANS
GENDERS AND MY HUNDRED.
STEVE HEARINGS OR SO I BELIEVE
I'VE ONLY HAD TWO INDIVIDUALS
WHO HAVE IDENTIFIED AS
TRANSGENDER. AND AS YOU HEARD AS
WE TOLD STAFF WE DO RECEIVE
TRAINING ON THAT AS WELL. AND. I
WOULD SAY THAT NOT JUST THAT
TRAINING INFLUENCING BUT
ACTUALLY MY EXPERIENCE AS THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL BECAUSE I GOT
A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ALONG THOSE
LINES.
IT GIVES YOU SOME CONTEXT WHEN
YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR EXAMPLE
THEIR HISTORY AND IN PRISON SO
IF I LOOK AT JUST THE BARE RIGHT
UPWARDS AS MUTUAL COMBAT. AND
THEN I HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL IN
FRONT OF ME WHO SAYS I'M GETTING
PRESSURED I'M GETTING.
HARASSED ALL OF THESE THINGS
AND THAT MUTUAL COMBAT MAYBE
BECAUSE A PERSON WAS A VICTIM SO
THAT. WAYS IN.
THE CONTEXT OF HOW I WOULD VIEW
THAT AS OPPOSED TO A GUY. WHO'S
A GANG MEMBER HE'S JUST
ESTABLISHING RESPECT BY FIGHTING
WITH EVERY CELL E. HAVE SO.
THOSE ARE OBSTACLES THAT I SEE
IN THE SYSTEM OBVIOUSLY THAT.
IT'S NOT WITHIN ANY OF OUR
PURVIEW TO BE ABLE TO FIX WE'RE
GETTING IT. AFTER THE FACT IN
FRONT OF US. BUT THEN THERE'S
THE OPPORTUNITY SIDE AND THAT'S
THE SIDE THAT I WOULD REALLY
ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE SENATORS TO
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. AND I THINK
THAT WE'VE MADE HUGE STRIDES IN
THE LAST EIGHT YEARS PROGRAMMING
IS INCREASE FOR.
AND.
IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
BECAUSE WHAT I OFTEN TELL GUYS.
KIDS THAT. YOU BUILT THIS ANTI
SOCIAL STRUCTURE AND IT'S NOT
JUST ABOUT TEARING IT DOWN IT'S
ABOUT BUILDING UP APPROACH
SOCIAL ONE.
WELL IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE
PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO
ASSESS.
WHAT PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE
RIGHT?
SO I THINK HAVING PROGRAMS
AVAILABLE TO FOLKS IS A HUGE
BENEFIT AND THAT.
I'M WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO
AND I I KNOW THE SENATE HAS DONE
THINGS IN THE PASSED ALONG THOSE
LINES WITH THE LONG TERM
OFFENDER PROGRAM. THE INNOVATIVE
GRANTS ETCETERA AND I WOULD JUST
TELL YOU THAT.
I'VE TALKED TO ENSURE MY
COLLEAGUES WILL ECHO THIS MANY.
INMATES BEFORE SAID SAY THIS
PROGRAM OR THAT PROGRAM YOU KNOW
GREG. OR LOW ORDER VICTIM
IMPACT.
TURNING AROUND CHANGED MY WAY OF
THINKING SO. I'M.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THOSE TYPES
OF OPPORTUNITIES NEED TO
CONTINUE SO FOR ME THAT'S WHAT
IT IS IT'S OBSTACLES VERSUS
ETERNITY'S.
THANK YOU AND I I APPRECIATE THE
INSIGHT YOU GAVE ON THE EXAMPLE.
A IT IN YOUR COMMENTS HERE AND
AND THE RESPONSES.
MR CASTRO.
THANK YOU ON THE. CURRENT ISSUE
OF TRANS GENDERED INDIVIDUALS I
THINK.
HOT NOT JUST WITH.
INDIVIDUALS THERE TRANSGENDERED
BITE OTHER. UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS I
COME BEFORE US.
I TRIED TO. BE OPEN MINDED NON
PREJUDICIAL NOT MAKING
ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ANYBODY MAKE
THE.
DETERMINATION BASED ON THE
INFORMATION ACCORDING TO LAW AND
WHAT WE HAVE.
IN OUR HEARING SO.
I KNOW I'M NOT PERFECT BUT I TRY
NOT TO ASSUME ANYTHING ABOUT ANY
INDIVIDUAL. OUT IN PARTICULAR
BASED ON WHATEVER. ISSUE OR
WHATEVER APPEARANCE OVER.
UNIQUENESS THEY MAY HAVE TRIED
TO BEFAIR WITH EVERYONE.
RESPECTFUL AND MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYBODY AYE GETS A FAIR SHAKE
AND IN THE HEARINGS.
ITEM.
WE'VE GOTTEN TRAINING HOW
VIOLENT THINK I'M AN EXPERT I
THINK I JUST MIGHT BE SENSITIVE
O THOSE ISSUES.
AND HAVE THAT AS A FILTER. OF
FOR THAT CASE WHETHER STRAIN
JEFF TRANSGENDERED INDIVIDUALS
OR. A YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS ALSO
HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE
THAT WE USED.
UP THE MATTER OF THE PERSPECTIVE
I IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THE CASE.
I.
BUT I WOULD WANT YOU GUYS TO
KNOW ABOUT OUR WORK IS THAT
IT'S.
VERY DIFFICULT WERE DOING THE
QUESTIONING WE'RE DOING CHARGING
MORE. WORKING WITH A. DEPUTY
COMMISSIONER TO COME UP WITH A
DECISION. AND THEN WHEN WE
RENDER A DECISION. AYE IT
DOESN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDE
EVERYTHING.
I WE HAVE US SHORT AMOUNT OF
TIME TO VERBALIZE THAT DECISION.
A AND THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES
THAT CAME UP DURING THE HEARING
THAT SOMETIMES I MIGHT FORGET.
TO BRING UP IN THE ACTUAL
DECISION PART.
SO AYE I THINK. CONSIDERING THE
WHOLE RECORD THE WHOLE HEARING
WOULD BE IMPORTANT IN ASSESSING
WHAT WE DO.
THANK YOU.
MOUSA FROM YALE START WITH THE.
.
THE TRANSGENDER ARM ISSUE.
I.
.
IN MY LIFE I LIVE MY LIFE BEING
RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE.
HARM AND RESPECT THEIR CHOICES.
AND SO THAT CARRIES.
CARRY THROUGH THE MY HEARINGS AS
WELL WITH THE WAY I TREAT
EVERYONE.
HOME AND SO ON.
I WILL DO MY BEST
I'M AS MY COLLEAGUES IT'S SAID.
TO MAKE SURE THAT I TRY TO THINK
ABOUT.
THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND HOLLOW.
LIFE IS FOR THEM INCREASING AND
WATER OBSTACLES THEY MAY HIVE
AND CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE
THINGS.
I'M IN MY DEALINGS WITH THEM AND
IN MY DECISION MAKING AS WELL.
AND THEN ON THE ISSUE OF WHAT I
WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW. I THINK
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS
STRUCK ME.
ARM IN GOING TO THE DIFFERENT
PRISONS.
IS.
AND I USE THAN CLINTON AVENUE
EXAMPLE.
THE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
THAT THE INMATES AT SAN QUENTIN
HAVE IF WE COULD SHOW US
REPLICATE THAT IN SOME WAY. AND
ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY TO.
PARTICIPATE AND COMMENT IS FIFTH
THAT MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE
YOU MEAN ON EVERY. AT ALL NOTS
OF SUPPORT WHAT BROADLY THAT THE
SUPPORT IS THE PROGRAMS ARE
THERE. FOR THE PROGRAMS ARE
THERE IT'S THERE SEEM TO BE MUCH
MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS MEMBERS
OF THE COMMUNITY COMING IN AND
PARTICIPATING IN EITHER
DELIVERING PROGRAMS. OR
PARTICIPATING IN SOME WAY TO
ENCOURAGE AND ENGAGE WITH THE IN
MAY.
I'VE SEEN THAT THAT HAS MADE A
BIG DIFFERENCE.
BOB IT GIVES THE INMATES HOPE.
ARM IN IT IT IT MAKES THEM GET
THE FEELING THAT THEY AYE THEY
HAVE NOT BEEN TROWN AWAY. AND
SO BASED ON THAT INTEREST.
THEY TEND TO WANT TO DO BETTER
IF WE COULD REPLICATE THAT
ACROSS THE INSTITUTIONS THAT
WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING.
THANK YOU.
SO A GOOD LIKE TO ECHO A LITTLE
BIT OF COMMISSIONER BURDEN SOCK
COMMENTS REGARDING THE BENEFITS
OF PROGRAMMING AND.
HAS REALLY MADE A POSITIVE
IMPACT IN ONE OF THE PLACES THAT
I SAW IT ON BROUGH THAT I'M
FINDING IT.
.
YEAH I IS IS THE FEMALE OFFENDER
AREA PARENTS THAT I'VE
CONDUCTED.
HISTORICALLY CCR THERE'S BEEN A
LOT MORE PROGRAM FOR FEMALES FOR
A LOT LONGER TIME.
IN ITS VERY CLEAR WHEN THEY COME
TO THE HEARING THAT THAT THE
BENEFITS OF THAT PROGRAMMING.
SO IT'S IS CERTAINLY AS THE.
.
WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH IN MY
ESTIMATION.
TOM ANOTHER THING THAT.
I LIKE YOU GUYS TO.
BE AWARE OF AND I KNEW THAT
THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CONTRAST
BUT IT I DON THEM SURPRISED BY
HOW STARK THE CONTRAST IS WITH
REGARD TO. THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN FOR INSTANCE THE LEVEL
FOR MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON AND
GOING TO A LEVEL TO LIKE VALLEY
STATE RATHAN ALL.
.
BY THE I'M FINDING THAT THE
GRANT RATES IN A LEVEL TO USE.
ARE MUCH HIGHER FOR ME AND THEN
ALL THE AND I HAD A WEEK IT
CORCORAN AND WE CAN AYE DESERT.
FOURTEEN CASES TOTAL ZERO GRANTS
THEY JUST WEREN'T READY AND PART
OF THAT IS WHAT THE NEW
CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM.
THOUGH THE FOLKS THAT A PROGRAM
MEAN ALTHOUGH THEY MAY BE LEVEL
FOR CLASSIFICATION POINTS.
BEGIN OVER RIDDEN TO A LEVEL
THREE A MORE PROGRAMMING PRISON
SO NOW WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE
LEVEL FORCE.
ARE THE FOLKS THAT JUST ARE
STILL UP TO THEIR SHENANIGANS
NOT READY TO PROGRAM.
AND SOME FINING THAT'S A YOU
KNOW VERY SO ARE GRANT RATES
REALLY PREDICATED UPON WHERE IT
IS THAT WERE CONDUCTING OUR
HEARINGS.
STING.
DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU GET ENOUGH
SUPPORT ONGOING TRAINING.
AND AT AND I JUST MEAN ON ANY
NUMBER OF ISSUES FROM.
CHANGES IN THE LAW.
A AT THE IMPLICATION OF THAT
FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
ISSUES AROUND DIFFERENT.
CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE ON
POPULATIONS.
ARM YOU KNOW EMERGING CULTURAL
THINGS THAT CAUSE US TO.
CONSIDER THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR
HAVE TO CONSIDER DO YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU ARE NUMBER ONE I
IMAGINE YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
I WOULD FIGURE THAT'S A HUGE
FACTOR IN TERMS OF PREPARATION
THE HEARINGS.
AND WHEN TO TAKE TIME FOR
TRAINING BUT COULD THAT BE
ENHANCED.
SO FOR ME IS THE NEWEST
COMMISSIONER.
WENT THROUGH SIX WEEKS OF
ONBOARDING TRAINING THAT WAS
VERY INTENSIVE.
AND HONEST TO GOD IS VERY
IMPRESSED BY THE TRAIN.
GOES A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AS
A CORRECTIONS PERSON.
ABOUT MY.
KNOWLEDGE OF THE LAW. AND MY
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO APPLY
THE LAWS AND ON THE TRADING WAS
EXCELLENT.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT'S
REALLY WONDERFUL SUPPORT WISE IS
WE HAVE THIS BAND LEGAL HOTLINE
DID I USE QUITE FREQUENTLY.
IF IF I GET AN OBJECTION THAT
I'M NOT CLEAR ON HOW TO RULE
TAKE A RECESS AT ALL CALL THE
HOTLINE OR.
DESIST THINGS THAT COME UP THAT
HER SALAS SOMETHING NEW IT SEEMS
LIKE IN AN AREA AT LEAST FOR ME.
AND WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND I'LL
CALL LEGAL HIGHLIGHTED GET LEGAL
ADVICE AND ARE ALWAYS THERE TO
PICK UP THE PHONE. ONE OF THE
MOST BENEFICIAL THINGS TO THAT
WE'VE ALL AVAILED OURSELVES IS.
SO ONCE A MONTH WE NEED IS
ABOARD AND WE DO GO OVERBOARD
ISSUES BUT THERE'S USUALLY AT
LEAST SEVERAL HOURS INVOLVED IN
THAT DATED TWO DAYS SESSION ONCE
A MONTH WHERE. WERE GIVEN
TRAINING BY IN HOUSE COUNSEL OR
LIKE I SAID BY OUTSIDE TRAINERS
BUT WHAT I'VE LIKED ABOUT IT IS
DEL ASK US AS A BOARD DO YOU
HAVE ANY ISSUES YOU.
TO BE TRAINED ON SO ALL OF US IN
THE PAST HAVE BROUGHT UP ISSUES
THAT WE THOUGHT THE MOST RECENT
ONE I ASKED ABOUT WAS.
ON THE PAROLE PROCESS THE POOR
OLD DISCHARGE PROCESS IT CENTER
BECAUSE WE SIT THERE WITH
SOMEONE AND WHETHER THEY'RE
GRANTOR DENIED.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY I
DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE NOW I DO BUT
WHAT THE MECHANICS WERE TO GET
THEM OUT THE DOOR. AND SO THINGS
LIKE THAT FOR AS HE SAID OTHER
QUESTIONS ARE ON.
THERE'S A WHOLE LEGAL TEAM
THAT'S THERE FOR US AT.
THE DROP OF A HAT.
THANK YOU.
I I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME WE
HAVE THESE HEARINGS I GET MORE
AND MORE INFORMED WHICH IS
REALLY HELPFUL FOR US TO BE.
I I DON'T HAVE MORE QUESTIONS I
JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE.
PITCH.
I. YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN
CONCERNED AND I HAVE TALKED.
I'D TO CDC ARE I HAVE BROUGHT
THESE ISSUES UP IN. PREVIOUS.
APPOINTMENT HEARINGS FOR.
BOARD MEMBERS.
.
YOU KNOW AS WE ADDRESS ISSUES
WHETHER IT IS OF WOMEN IN PRISON
AND GENDER. I KNOW THAT THERE
HAVE BEEN ISSUES AROUND OTHER.
FIVE DISADVANTAGE MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES ETHNIC.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS PLACES PLAY
OUT IN IN PRISON AND IMPACT
PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO DO THE
PERSONAL GROWTH AND THINKING OF
WHETHER.
YOU KNOW DO THEY HAVE A MORE
STUDENT UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT
THAT THEY HAVE HAD ON OTHER
PEOPLE'S LIVES AS WELL AS THEIR
OWN. ALL OF THOSE THINGS
ADAM. I AM A BABY BOOMER SO I AM
NOT YOUNG I AM NOT ANYWHERE NEAR
OF MILLENNIAL BUT I WILL TELL
YOU. ARE I IN THE STRUCTURE THAT
WE HAVE.
.
IT IN THE INSTITUTIONS ARE
PRISON FACILITIES.
THERE IS A WORLD COMING YOUR
WAY ON GENDER ISSUES THAT IS
GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HARD. FOR
THE INSTITUTIONS TO HANDLE AS
FAR AS HOUSING.
AND WHO I TELL YOU I AM TODAY
AND WHETHER THAT'S FLUID AND IT
IS COMING OUR WAY. WE HAVE DEALT
WITH LEGISLATION ON THIS AND.
IT'S JUST GOT UP IN THE WORLD
THE SOME OF US KNOW IT AND AND I
WOULD CONSIDER MYSELF AS PART
OF.
THOSE WHO LIFE AS WE KNEW IT.
AND I JUST I REALLY WANT TO MAKE
A PITCH BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE
INCARCERATED. OBVIOUSLY
DESERVEDLY INCARCERATED.
YOUR FREEDOMS ARE TAKEN AWAY.
IF YOU ARE SOMEONE OF OF A
NATURE IN AND MANY OF YOU
SITTING HERE UNDERSTAND. IT FROM
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES WHERE
THERE IS NOT THE SUPPORT FOR YOU
TO ACTUALLY TRY TO REHABILITATE
YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE BUSY
TRYING TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
AND THAT APPLIES TO PEOPLE THAT
ARE IN PRISON TODAY THAT DON'T
HAVE THE GENDER ISSUE.
I. I JUST WANT TO APPEAL TO YOU
AND I WILL FOLLOW UP.
IN MY OWN CAPACITY. A WITH CDC
ARE TO TALK ABOUT AND THE BOARD
TO TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR. AYE
SOME BETTER ODD CULTURAL
TRAININGS BUT HAVING SAID THAT I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERS I
READ THROUGH EVERYTHING. I
APPRECIATE YOUR APPROACH TO THIS
I APPRECIATE THE HEAVINESS AND
RESPONSIBILITY IN YOUR SKILL
SETS AND YOUR. AYE INDULGING US
TODAY IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS FROM THE TECHNICAL TO
THE CULTURAL TO THE.
ARM ARE OTHER ISSUES SO WITH
THAT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
MY COLLEAGUES HAVE OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YOU NEED
TO MAKE. OKAY OUT WITH THAT WE
NEED TO GO TO MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE. ARE I WILL
START WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WHO ARE HERE IN SUPPORT.
I IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP
AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR
SUPPORT OF ONE ARE MANY.
IF YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT BRIEF
THAT WOULD BE GREAT BUT YOU
SHOULD SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY
AND I WILL START WITH YOU.
THANK YOU I BELIEVE I WILL BE
UNDER THREE MINUTES THANKS VERY
MUCH OF THE AFTERNOON SENATORS
MY NAME IS BERNICE NELSON SLOAN
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF LIFE SUPPORT
ALLIANCE THE LIFE FOR ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION. WE SPEAK
FREQUENTLY AT CONFIRMATION
HEARINGS FOR PAROLE
COMMISSIONERS ANOTHER CDC
ARTIFICIAL.
WHILE WE NEVER AGREE WITH ALL
THE DECISIONS THE COMMISSIONERS
MAKER COMMENTS ARE BASED NOT ON
PAROLED GRANTOR DENIAL RATES ARE
PERCENTAGES OR OPINION BUT ON
MEASURED AND MEASURED
CONSIDERATION OF ALL THE IMPACT.
AND THE WE USUALLY INCLUDE
OBSERVATIONS OF COMMISSIONERS
DURING THEIR HEARINGS DUE TO
SCHEDULING CONFLICTS WOULD NOT
BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND HEARINGS FOR
ALL OF THESE COMMISSIONERS.
BUT NONE THE LESS WE SOLICIT
INPUT FROM ATTORNEYS AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS WE ARE. PROUD TO
OFFER THESE COMMENTS.
WE SUPPORT THE CONFIRMATION OF
MISTER BARTON WHO WAS WELL
VERSED IN POLICY AND PROCEDURE
AND FULLY CONSIDERS APPLIES ALL
ASPECTS OF SPECIAL PAROLE
CONSIDERATION PROCESS.
IT COMMUNICATES WELL WITH
INMATES ON ALL LEVELS IN HIS
DIRECTION APPROPRIATE IN THOSE
INTERCHANGES WE'RE SORRY TO LOSE
HIM AS INSPECTOR GENERAL BUT
GLAD TO SEE HIM AS A
COMMISSIONER.
BUT WE HAVE NOT YET HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE
COMMISSIONER DOBBS REVIEW
TRANSCRIPTS AND COMMENTS
RETURNEES ALLOW US TO SUPPORT
HER CONFIRMATION. BASED ON HER
CONCISE PROCESS AN EQUITABLE
APPLICATION OF PREVAILING LAW
AND POLICY AND CONSIDERATE
TREATMENT OF ALL PARTIES.
WE ALSO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER
LONG WHO IS PROFESSIONAL AND
FAIR BUT FIRM IS HONEST
UNDERSTANDING OF THE REALITIES
OF PRISON LIFE AND THEIR IMPACT
ON PAROLE SUITABILITY IS OFTEN
AN ADVANTAGE.
DID NGUYEN IN AT AN ADEQUATE AND
CONFLICTING INFORMATION WE
CANNOT SUPPORT WILL NOT OPPOSE
COMMISSIONER CASTRO WILL OFFER
THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATIONS.
BASED ON TRANSCRIPTS OF
CONVERSATIONS WITH ATTORNEYS AND
PRISONERS.
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT MANY OF
HIS DENIALS OF PAROLE HEAVILY
BUTTRESSED WITH EXPRESSIONS.
CONCERNED REGARDING IN MAKE
CREDIBILITY IN ALL AREAS AND WE
HEARD THIS AGAIN TODAY.
OF COURSE IT'S VITAL THE PRINCE
PRISONERS PRESENT CREDIBLE
INFORMATION BUT THE SPECTER
LANGUAGES USE REPEATEDLY AND
CONSISTENTLY HIS DENIALS.
FUNDING LACK OF CREDIBILITY
SHOULD NOT BE SIMPLY A FALLBACK
BOILERPLATE REASON TO DENY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO OBSERVING HIS
HEARINGS GOING FORWARD WITH AN
EYE TOWARD CONTINUED GROWTH.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IS
AS ALSO THE WIFE OF A PAROLED
AND VERY SUCCESSFULLY RE
INTEGRATED LIFE FOR.
WHO NOW GOES BACK INTO THE
PRISONS WITH ME TO BRING
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS TO THE
PRISONERS? I URGE ALL OF YOU
SENATORS TO GO BACK INTO THE
PRISONS MEET THESE PEOPLE WHO
ARE CHANGING THEIR LIVES I THINK
YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED WITH WHAT
THE. PROGRESS IS BEING MADE
THERE AND WITH THE JAVA TO
PROVIDE IS TO. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT.
IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY. I AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A
MOTION. ON ALL FOURS. THANK YOU
MADAM SECRETARY
SENATORS BERRYHILL MODDING.
MONNING AYE ROTH CANNELLA
CANNELLA AYE ATKINS AYE ATKINS
AYE HE THINKING WE WILL LEAVE
THE ROLE OPEN SO THAT MISTER
ROTH CAN COME JOIN US AND CAST
HIS VOTE.
BUT AT THIS POINT IT IS YOU ARE.
APPOINTED AND SUFFICIENT VOTES
THREE. ZERO WITH ONE ABSENCE
AND.
MEMBER ARE ELSEWHERE.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY
MAKING
.
ASSEMBLY.
SO AS PEOPLE EXIT WE WERE ONLY
GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE.
TO ALLOW MISTER ROTH TO JOIN US
AND VOTE AND THEN AT THAT POINT
WE WILL.
A JOURNEY INTO.
EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE'RE GOING
TO TAKE JUST A.
A REPRIEVE FOR MOM
THANK YOU SO MUCH MADAM
SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL. ON
ITEMS ONE EIGHTY THROUGH ONE DE
CURRENT VOTE IS THREE ZERO
SENATORS BERRYHILL ROTH. ROTH
AYE.
FOUR ZERO THANK YOU THAT IS FOUR
ZERO.
IT WAS ALREADY CONFIRMED
PASSAGE OF THESE APPOINTEES.
AND WITH THAT WE WILL ADJOURN
INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION