SEEING AS WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS
WAITING HERE TO PRESENT WELCOME
TO SEND ELECTIONS CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS. WERE GOING AND SIGN
AN ORDER TODAY SO WE WILL.
HOLD OFF ON A ROLL CALL AND
INVITE SENATOR GAINS TO.
AT PRESENT SCA NINETEEN WELCOME
SENATOR.
GOOD AFTERNOON. GREAT THANK YOU.
SHARE CERTAIN MEMBERS.
AND.
TODAY WE ARE PRESENTING IT.
SCA NINETEEN.
WHICH OFFERS A WELL DESERVED
BENEFIT TO CALIFORNIA'S
HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERANS.
AS YOU KNOW CALIFORNIANS SUFFER
WITH SOME OF THE HIGHEST HOUSING
PRICES IN THE NATION. AND
BECAUSE OF THOSE HIGH COST
CALIFORNIA AS THE FIFTEENTH
HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXES IN THE
NATION. THAT'S EVEN WITH THE
PROP THIRTEEN TAX PROTECTION.
I'VE HEARD MANY STORIES ABOUT
PEOPLE NOT SELLING. THEIR HOMES
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO PAY
THE INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES ARE
CURSED. BECAUSE OF THAT THAT
PURCHASE TRIGGERING AN.
THIS IN THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
EVERY YEAR.
EVEN IF THE NEW HOME IS VERY
SIMILAR. IN TERMS OF ITS SIZE.
THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW HONORABLY
DISCHARGED VETERANS TO TAKE
THEIR PROP THIRTEEN BASELINE
PROPERTY VALUES. WITH THEM WHEN
THEY PURCHASE A NEW PROPERTY
CALIFORNIA ALREADY ALLOW SIMILAR
EXEMPTIONS FOR DISABLED
HOMEOWNERS AND HOMEOWNERS OVER
FIFTY FIVE YEARS OF AGE.
AND THE STATE PROVIDES BETTER
AND BETTER FITS IN HIRING. HOME
LENDING AND OTHER AREAS ALL THE
SHOW OUR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR
SERVICE. AND TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS
TO JOIN OUR ALL VOLUNTEER MERYL
MILITARY FORCE. THIS BILL IS
CONSISTENT WITH THOSE EFFORTS
THIS MEASURE CAN ALSO INCREASE
LIQUIDITY IN THE HOUSING MARKET.
WHICH WOULD HELP HOMEOWNERS
EVERY AGE AND BACKGROUND.
AND WITH ME IS SETH REED I
REPRESENT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
VETERANS GROUPS.
AFTER.
CAPTAIN CHAIR MEMBERS MY NAME IS
SET THREE WITH THREE GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS REPRESENTING AMERICAN
GI FORM OF CALIFORNIA. AMERICAN
LEGION DEPARTMENT OF CALIFORNIA
AMVETS DEPARTMENT IN CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY
VETERANS SERVICE OFFICERS.
CALIFORNIA STATE COMMANDERS
ACTION COUNCIL MILITARY OFFICERS
OF AMERICA CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
CHAPTERS AND THE VIETNAM
VETERANS OF AMERICA. CALIFORNIA
STATE COUNCIL ON SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION.
I SEE A NINETEEN WILL PROVIDE A
MUCH NEEDED UPDATE TO THE
CONSTITUTION. CALIFORNIA'S LOST
OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND
VETERANS IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY
FIFTEEN BRINGING THE CURRENT
VETERAN POPULATION OF ONE POINT
SEVEN MILLION. IN CALIFORNIA.
IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY FIFTEEN TO
VA SPENT FIFTEEN POINT SIX
BILLION DOLLARS IN CALIFORNIA ON
ITS OPERATIONS AND FACILITIES.
SEVEN POINT TWO BILLION IN
FEDERAL MONIES GOES DIRECTLY TO
VETERANS IN THE FORM OF
COMPENSATION AND PENSION.
THE VA SPENT FIVE POINT NINE
BILLION AND HEALTHCARE MOSTLY
FOR DISABLED VETERANS THAT'S.
THAT THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE TO
PAY FOR.
ONE POINT NINE BILLION WAS SPENT
ON VETERANS IN COLLEGES. UNDER
THE GI BILL THIS MODEST MEASURE
IT WILL HELP TO RETAIN VETERANS
AND THE STATE. AND INCREASE THE
OVERALL FEDERAL MONIES INTO
CALIFORNIA. OF BEHOOVE
CALIFORNIA TO RETAIN AND ATTRACT
VETERANS TO LIVE IN THIS STATE.
THEY FORMED A NUCLEAR US AROUND.
OF A CONSTANT AND SOLID MIDDLE
CLASS THEY BRING NEW FEDERAL
MONEYS AND BENEFITS AND THE
STATE. BUT THERE.
WHICH THEY HAVE EARNED END
RESULT AT THEIR MILITARY SERVICE
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT.
AND TO ANY WITNESS ANYONE ENOUGH
POSITION.
SEEING NONE WILL TAKE IT BACK TO
THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS
QUESTIONS SENATOR ANDERSON.
WE DON'T HAVE CORNING AND I
DON'T BELIEVE SO I CAN MAKE A
MOTION RIGHT NO MOTION JUST
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THIS POINT
AND THEN WE WILL. WE'LL LEAVE
THE BILL ON THE TABLE LEAVING A
CALL. WE'LL JUST WAIT AND THEY
WILL WITH MISTER CHAIR YEAH WITH
OUR OTHER MEMBERS SO I'M NOT I'M
ACTUALLY THE ONLY REPUBLICAN IN
BUDGETS OF FIVE. AND WE HAVE
EIGHTEEN VOTES IN THAT COMMITTEE
YEAH THEY HAVE QUORUM SO. YEAH I
MEAN BUDGETS OF TWO AND THEY
HAVE CORN TO IN THEIR VOTING.
BUT I'M THE ONLY REPUBLICAN ON
THAT SHOW.
YOU'RE GOING REPUBLICAN VOICE
WHY DON'T WE GET A. GOOD FINISH
UP THESE BILL PRESENTATIONS VERY
QUICKLY I KNOW GONZALEZ'S AT
FLETCHER'S IS VERY SHORT CAN WE
DO A LOT OF TWO MINUTE ON THAT
FINISHED THE PRESENTATION AND
THEN WE'LL WORK FOR A QUICK
REFUND HAPPY I'M HAPPY TO MOVE
THIS I. JUST WORRY THAT GOT IT
WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THE STUFF IN
THE CAN AND FOR THE RECORD I
HAVE ALWAYS OKAY. WELL LET'S
BRANDY WORLD APART.
YOU DEFINED IT CENTER ANDERSON.
WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM. SECTOR WE
PLEASE.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. STERN HERE
STERN HERE ANDERSON. ANDERSON
HERE ALLEN. ALLEN HERE
HERTZBERG.
LABEL.
OVER HERE OKAY NOW WE HAVE FULL
COMMITTEE COME WITH THAT.
WE WILL. ALLOW YOU TO WORK
CURRENTLY HEARING AND SEEING
NINETEEN.
BASE VALUE TRANSFERS ARE
VETERANS. CENTER GAINS GIVE VERY
ELOQUENT PRESENTATION I JUST
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD.
IT'S A IT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR.
MANY FOLKS TO COME BACK HOME IN
THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS TAKE CARE
OF THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT. THIS
QUIRK IN TAX LAWS AND.
NEGATIVELY IMPACTING OUR
VETERANS POPULATIONS I THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD AND I
HEARD.
CENTER EDITION OPEN TO A MOTION
TO MOVE THE BILL SO MOVED THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE THIS IS
SCA NINETEEN.
IF YOU GUYS ARE READY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL AMERICA'S
GLOBAL STERN I STERN EYEING
ANDERSON. ANDERSON I ALLEN.
ALLEN I HEARD SPURRED. LABEL.
NEIGHBOR SAYS FOUR ZERO WE WILL
LEAVE THE BILL ON CALL THANK YOU
VERY MUCH YES APPRECIATED YOUR
CERTAIN MEMBERS.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GONZALO'S FOOT
YOU'RE WELCOME.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AB THREE OF SIX AS
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED WOULD
REQUIRE THAT PERSON DESIGNATED
TURNING VOTERS COMPLETED MAIL
BALLOT FOR THE VOTER. RETURN IT
WITHIN THREE DAYS OR BY THE
CLOSE OF POLLS ON ELECTION DAY
WHICHEVER SOONER.
THE THREE DAY TIMELINES MORE
CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING
REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBMITTING
COMPLETED BUT REGISTRATION CARDS
WILL HELP A DOESN'T NEED COMPLY
IF BALLOTS WERE COLLECTED ON THE
WEEKEND. IN TWENTY SIXTEEN THAT
WE PASSED A BILL TO. ALLOW
BUTTER JETS MEET ANY PERSON TO
TURN IN THE MAIL BALLOT FOR THEM
WHICH REMOVED AN ARBITRARY
BARRIER TO VOTE EVEN. AFTER THIS
PAST THOUGH. WE NOTED THAT WE
NEGLECTED TO INCLUDE ANY TIME
LINE ON WHEN THESE BALLOTS
SHOULD BE TURNED IN OTHER THAN
CLOSE OF POLLS ON ELECTION DAY.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE HAS BEEN
NO CASES OF DESIGNEES FAILING TO
TURN IN A COMPLETED BALLOT.
HOWEVER THERE COULD BE CONFUSION
AND WE WANT TO ADD CERTAINTY AB
THREE OF SIX MAN TWENTY THREE A
TIMELINE FOR DOES NEED TO TURN
ABOUT WOULD PROVIDE CERTAINTY
AND CLARIFY FOR BOTH THE VOTER
IN THOSE DESIGNATED TURNING
ABOUT IT ON THEIR BEHALF.
THANK YOU SO MEMBER OF WHAT IS
IN SUPPORT.
JONATHAN CLAY ABOUT THE COUNTY
SEEM TO GO HERE AND SUPPORT VERY
GOOD OTHER WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE MEMBERS COMMENTS
QUESTIONS CENTER ANDERSON.
AREN'T. YES I DIDN'T.
SUPPORT THE ORIGINAL BILL.
FOR THE SAME REASONS I HAVE
DIFFICULTIES WITH THIS BILL.
YOU KNOW IF I WERE. TO HAVE TO
MAKE COME THROUGH MY
NEIGHBORHOOD AND PICK IT UP OUT
OF COURTESY AND I GAVE IT TO HIM
AND I DON'T HAVE A RECEIPT. AND
I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE
DOING IT FRIEND AT VARIOUS
REASON BUT PERHAPS THEY DIDN'T
TURN MY BALLOT IN.
I WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE.
WHO TOOK MY BALLOT
AND?
IT MAY BE THAT ONE PERSON THAT
CHECKS.
IN A MAY HAVE COLLECTED HUNDREDS
OF BALLOTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
A CAP ON IT.
AND WE WOULD NEVER WHO THAT.
WE WOULD KNOW WHO THAT PERSON
WAS. TO CORRECT IT AND.
IN YOUR DISTRICT I THINK WE'VE
HAD THREE RACES ONE MORE SENATE
RACE THAT WAS WON BY TWENTY SIX
VOTES. NOTHING TO WATER
DISTRICTS ONE WAS RATE ONE BY
ONE AND ONE WAS A TINY TO FLIP A
COIN. SO WE KNOW THAT EACH ONE
OF THESE BALLOTS IS. REALLY
IMPORTANT SPECIALLY WHERE WE
LIVE SO.
.
IF YOU IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING
TO ADD A RECEIPT IN THERE I
COULD GET TO THIS BUT OTHERWISE
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DECLINE. I
UNDERSTAND IT'S INCREMENTAL
CHANGE.
BUT I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE RICH
ONE BECAUSE OF THIS GAP. WELL I
THINK THIS IS BETTER THAN THE
ORIGINAL OBVIOUSLY I'M I'M I.
I'M SORRY MOST TIMING WE TRY TO
WORK TOGETHER ON THESE.
SMALLER ISSUES BUT I CAN'T OUT A
RECEIPT THERE THERE'S NO
SEEMINGLY REASON TO WE BELIEVE
THAT A VOTER I'M SHOULD HAVE THE
RIGHT TO HAND IT TO WHOEVER THEY
WANT IF THEY KNOW THE PERSON
THEY DON'T IT'S UP TO THE VOTERS
DISCRETION SO NOBODY IS FORCING
ANYONE TO HAND. OVER BALLOT SO
WERE ALL GROWN ADULTS WITH.
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVE
THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT
DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO
HAND OVER THAT BALLOT SO WE WANT
TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE
TO GET BALLOTS IN. THROUGH THE
CHAIR.
SURE.
I HAVE.
WE WOULDN'T BE GOING BY CAMPER
NEIGHBORS BALLOTS IF WE TRUSTED
HIM TO PUT HIM INTHE MAIL. SO
THE VERY PREMISE THAT WE'RE ALL
RESPONSIBLE. THEN YOU WOULDN'T
NEED THIS SURE THE VOTERS TELL
YOU GUYS YOUR RELATIVES WOULD
HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU AND WE
OPENED IT UP AND SAID NO IT DOES
HAVE TO BE A RELATIVE. IT COULD
BE SOMEBODY ARE THAT YOU MAY NOT
NOW SO THE FACT THAT WE ALLOW
THAT TO OCCUR IS IN RESULT OF
PEOPLE NOT VOTING. WHITE FOLK
BUT SOMEHOW DISCONNECTING.
I THINK THAT SIMPLE PROTECTIONS.
OR SMART WAY TO GO.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA
BE MY VOTE GET OUT WITH ME
TODAY.
BUT IT'S ALWAYS DISAPPOINTING
WHEN I CAN'T GO FOR WHAT YOUR
BILLS AND THOUGHT I HOPE AT SOME
LATER POINT YOU MAY CONSIDER
ADDING THAT RECEIVED IN. SO THAT
I WOULD HAVE SOME COMFORT AT
NIGHT KNOWING THAT THAT EVERY
PERSON WHO CAST A VOTE GETS
COUNTED THEM.
THANK YOU.
MEMBERS OTHER COMMENTS
QUESTIONS.
I'LL JUST SAY I APPRECIATE YOU
PUTTING SOME.
STRICTURES ON THE THE PREVIOUS
REFORM ALTHOUGH WE REALLY
HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF
ABUSE OR.
FAILED TRANSMITTAL AT THIS
POINT I MEAN I I WOULD SAY IT'S
A SMART THING TO KEEP OUR EYE ON
BUT WE WANT TO FACILITATE MORE
MORE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET
THAT VOTE IN AND NOT. HAVE TO GO
THROUGH.
EITHER DID THE MAJOR HURDLES
EITHER ECONOMICALLY OR
PHYSICALLY THE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO
TO GET TO THE POLLS THANKFULLY
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DEVOTE
CENTERS BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE
MORE COMMON SENSE WAY TO MAKE
SURE WE MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF.
VOTES CAST IN CALIFORNIA I DID
WANT TO CLARIFY THOUGH. YOU'RE
OFFERING AMENDMENTS YES OKAY.
AND THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
REFLECTS THOSE AMENDMENTS SO IF
THERE IS A MOTION.
IT WOULD BE I DO PASS AND.
AT IT WOULD BE DO PASS AS
AMENDED SO I'M OPEN TO A MOTION.
SENATOR ALAN MOVES AND DID YOU
ARE CLOSE.
AT LAST I GOT A QUEUE OF.
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED.
SECTOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
STERN.
I UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW ANDERSON
NO ALLEN. ALLEN I HEARD SPURRED.
EVEN.
WE'LL LEAVE THAT MEASURE ON
CALL.
IS TWO ONE RIGHT NOW THANK YOU
SO MANY MEMBERS.
AND.
NO OTHER AUTHORS AT ST AROUND
DID YOU WANT TO JUMP UP AND DO
YOUR SEAT'S. IT IS THAT.
.
LOS HERE.
DUE TO RECENT OKAY.
JOHNNY ON THE SPOT FILE INTO.
MAYBE TEN THIRTEEN SERLO
WELCOME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS MOVED TO BUILD THIS IS.
ASSEMBLY BILL TEN THIRTEEN WITH
RESPECT TO. ALLOWING AT VOTERS
WHO MIGHT HAVE DISABILITIES TO
BE ABLE TO VOTE REMOTELY AND
RESPECT LAST FOREVER.
THANK YOU WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
THE JUDGE IS THE CABLING LAST
NIGHT.
AFTERNOON.
I. MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JEFF
DAHMER WAS IN THE CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL OF ONE. I AM FORTUNATE I
LIVE IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY A VOTE
BY MAIL COUNTY. I WILL BE ABLE
TO USE MY OWN COMPUTER OR.
PULLING CENTER I WILL HAVE THE
ABILITY TO VOTE PRIVATELY AND
INDEPENDENTLY. BUT IF I LIVE IN
AN ABSENTEE COUNTY. I HAVE TO GO
TO THE POLLING PLACE TO VOTE
PRIVATELY AND INDEPENDENTLY.
MAYBE TEN THIRTEEN WOULD RECALL
WOULD FILL THAT GAP AND WOULD
ALLOW. THOSE IN ABSENTEE
COUNTIES WHO ARE DISABLED. OR
VETERANS THE SAME OPTION TO USE
TO VOTE USING A HOME COMPUTER.
I'VE TESTED THE SYSTEM IT IS
WORKS VERY WELL. PHONE THE
SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN CERTIFIED
BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND I
ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE AND I THINK.
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOW FOR
OFFERING THE BILL. THANKS FOR
TESTIMONY SIR. BY ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SEEING NONE DO WE HAVE ANY
ANYONE OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS
COMMENTS.
I KNOW THE THE SECRETARY OF
STATE. DURING THE TIME OF THE
LAST BILL WAS STILL WORKING ON
CERTIFICATION STANDARDS IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE
CERTIFICATION STANDS ARE
COMPLETE.
SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES OF WITH
OUR EXECUTIVE BRANCH BUT.
I STILL REMAIN IN SUPPORT THE
BILL APPRECIATE BRAND FORTY
SIMPLY MEMBER SO WITH THAT I'D
LIKEYOU TO CLOSE AND YOU VERY
MUCH MR RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR.
ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
I MEAN THE MOST OH SORRY. XANDER
ANDERSON.
MOVES THAT THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AND REFER TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SECTOR
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL STERN HE II
STERN I ANDERSON. ANDERSON I
ALLEN. ALLEN I HEARD SPURRED.
LABOR ARE WE WILL LEAVE THAT
MEASURE ON CALL GATOR MAKE YOU.
SENATOR ALAN DID YOU WANT TO
OPEN. CENTER GLAZER.
I MEAN THIS IS.
WELCOME GOOD AFTERNOON.
HELLO GOOD MORNING NOW GOOD
AFTERNOON GOOD NIGHT TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT.
READY TO GO ALRIGHT THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
IS TO PRESENT AS CA TWENTY.
WHICH IS A MEASURE THAT WOULD
CHANGE THE WAY THE BRADLEY BURNS
SALES TAX IS ALLOCATED TO CITIES
AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE.
IT'S A MEASURE CAME OUT OF.
REVIEW THAT WAS DONE BY THE
STATE AUDITOR WHO CAN HEAR FROM
A WITNESS FROM THE STATE
AUDITOR'S OFFICE HERE IN A
MOMENT. ODD BUT THIS DOES CHANGE
THE WAY IN WHICH SALES TAX
DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED FOR
REVENUES. THAT ARE DERIVED FROM
ONLINE TRANSACTIONS. AND
ALTHOUGH.
IT THROUGH THIS SCA SALES TAX
REVENUE FROM ONLINE TRANSACTION
TO BE DISTRIBUTED BASED ON THE
FINAL LOCATION OF A PACKAGE.
RATHER THAN A DESIGNATED PLACE
TO SAIL ALSO KNOWN AS A IS IT
CETUS. SIDE SPACE ALLOCATION I
KNEW I WAS GOING TO MESS THAT
UP.
THIS CHANGE ONLY PERTAINS TO
ONLINE SALES WILL NOT ENCOMPASS
TRANSACTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE IN
BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATIONS. THE
BRADLEY BURNS SALES TAXES ONE
POINT TWO FIVE PERCENT. OF THE
STATE SALES TAX IT'S ALLOCATED
TO CITIES AND COUNTIES FOR
PURPOSES OF GENERAL SERVICES AND
LOCAL TRANSPORTATION
IMPROVEMENTS. WAS CREATED IN THE
NINETEEN FIFTIES. WHEN THE
MAJORITY OF SALES TOOK PLACE IN
BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATIONS. AND
THE INTERNET WAS NOT EVEN A
FIGMENT OF IMAGINATION.
AS SPECIFIED IN THE STATE
AUDITOR'S REPORT RELEASED LAST
YEAR EXISTING LAW ALLOWS ONLINE
RETAILERS. TO DESIGNATE LARGE
AMOUNTS IF NOT ALL OF SALES
TRANSACTIONS TO SPECIFIC
WAREHOUSES. DISTRIBUTION CENTERS
AND SALES OFFICES SPREAD
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THIS
CREATES TWO PROBLEMS.
FIRST.
MANY IF NOT MOST JURISDICTIONS
IN THE STATE LOSE OUT AS SALES
TAX REVENUE FROM THE RESIDENCE
IS TRANSFERRED TO A HANDFUL. OF
CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT ARE
HOME TO ONLINE MERCHANDISE FOR
FILAMENT OR DISTRIBUTION
CENTERS.
THE SECOND PROBLEM IS THAT IN
SOME CASES THE SALES TAX REVENUE
THAT'S BEING DIVERTED AWAY FROM
OTHER JURISDICTIONS. DOES NOT
EVEN GO TO FUND PUBLIC SERVICES
IN THE JURISDICTIONS THAT
RECEIVE THE REVENUE.
INSTEAD THOSE JURISDICTIONS ARE
REVISITING THE MONEY TO ONLINE
BUSINESSES AS A REWARD FOR
LOCATING THE DISTRIBUTION
CENTERS IN THOSE PLACES.
IN SOME CASES ONE HUNDRED
PERCENT OF SALES TAX REVENUE IS
GIVEN BACK TO THESE ONLINE FIRMS
ACCORDING TO THE FRESNO BEE.
OUR ECONOMY HAS CHANGED
DRAMATICALLY WITH E. COMMERCE
ACT AS WE'VE SEEN EXPERIENCING.
SIGNIFICANT GROWTH. AND AS MORE
CONSUMERS SHIFT TO ONLINE
ORDERING THE IMPACT THAT HE
COMMERCE HOUSE AND OUR ECONOMY
WILL INEVITABLY INCREASE.
THEREFORE WITHOUT THIS CHANGES
PROPOSED IN THIS LEGISLATION.
THE NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS THAT
EXPERIENCE THESE
DISPROPORTIONATE DISTRIBUTIONS
WILL GROW. AND THE DISPARITY
WILL WORSEN AS THE MARKET
CONTINUES TO FAVOR ONLINE SALES.
LIKE TO STRESS THAT I'M ACTIVELY
WORKING WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES.
TO TRY TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO
MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THIS
LEGISLATION WILL HAVE. ON A
HANDFUL OF CITIES THAT CURRENTLY
BENEFIT FROM THE CURRENT TAX
STRUCTURE.
IS NOT MY ATTEMPT TO PUNISH
CITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE
OF THE CURRENT TAX ALLOCATION
STRUCTURE. INSTEAD IT'S AN
ATTEMPT TO REFORM THE STATE TAX
CODE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW
REALITY OF E. COMMERCE AND HOW
IT'S CHANGING THE MARKETPLACE.
ECOMMERCE IS NOT ONLY GROWING IN
AFFLUENT PARTS OF OUR STATE ALSO
GROWING RULE POOR AREAS WHERE
ONLINE ORDERING HAS BECOME MORE
CONVENIENT AND CHEAPER. AND IF
WE ALLOW THE STATE TO CONTINUE
DOWN THIS CURRENT PATH. THE
CONCENTRATION OF SALES TAX
REVENUE IN WAREHOUSE WHICH
COMMUNITIES WILL CONTINUE TO
DISPROPORTIONATELY GROW.
ULTIMATELY LEADING TO EVEN MORE
HURTFUL CONSEQUENCES FOR THE
VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CITIES
OTHER FOR YOUR QUESTIONS JOINING
ME TODAY IS CHRISTOS IN FROM THE
OFFICE OF THE STATE AUDITOR. WHO
WAS THE LEAD COUNSEL ON THE
AUDITOR'S REPORT? I ALSO HAVE
VISIT BORA.
TOP.
REPRESENTING THE ORANGE COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY HERE TO
EXPLAIN HOW THIS CONCENTRATION
OF FUNDS HAS NEGATIVELY AFFECTED
THE AUTHORITY OVER THE PAST FEW
YEARS CHAIRMAN THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR OF FOR
THE RECORD MY NAME IS
CHRISTOPHER DAWSON I'M SENIOR
STAFF COUNSEL TO THE STATE
AUDITOR. WILL LAST YOUR OFFICE%
WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT THE BRADLEY
BURNS TAX INCLUDING HOW IT'S
ASSESSED COLLECTED ALLOCATED IN
DISTRIBUTED TO LOCAL
TRANSPORTATION FUNDS.
ONE OF THE MAIN FINDINGS WE HAD
WAS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE
BRADLEY BURNS TAX LAW AND
REGULATIONS RE CURRENTLY. SOME
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS RECEIVED
DISPROPORTIONATE DISTRIBUTIONS
FROM THE TAXES COLLECTED ON
ONLINE SALES.
THIS IS BECAUSE BRADLEY BURNS IS
A SITE IS BASED TAX WHICH MEANS
THAT IS DISTRIBUTED UPON WHERE
THE SALE TOOK PLACE.
FOR PHYSICA SALES AT THAT MEANS
A BROKER BRICK AND MORTAR STORE
BUT FOR ONLINE SALES IT COULD
MEAN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
PLACES. AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON
THE ONLINE RETAILERS BUSINESS
MODEL.
BUT IN MANY CASES IT MEANS A
WAREHOUSE OR DISTRIBUTION
CENTER.
AS PART OF OUR TESTING WE
COMPARED BRADLEY BURNS TAX
ALLOCATIONS FOR CERTAIN
RETAILERS. AGAINST THEIR
DISTRICT TAX ALLOCATIONS WHICH
OUR DESTINATION BASED.
IN ONE EXAMPLE WE FOUND THAT A
pPERCENT OF ITS BRADLEY BURNS
TAXES TO THE LOCATION OF ITS
WAREHOUSE. BUT JUST EIGHT
PERCENT OF ITS DISTRICT TAXES TO
THE SAME LOCATION.
AND WE CONCLUDED THAT BRADLEY
BURNS CONCENTRATES IN CITIES AND
COUNTIES WERE RETAILERS STORE
AND SHIP GOODS. EVEN THOUGH THE
ACTUAL PURCHASERS ARE
DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE STATE.
THIS CREATES AN INCENTIVE FOR
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO COMPETE
WITH ONE ANOTHER AND TO PROVIDE
INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT TO THEIR LOCATION.
THE MOST FAMOUS EXAMPLE IS THE
CITY OF CUPERTINO WHICH IN
NINETEEN NINETY SEVEN I HAD
GIVEN APPLE A SUBSTANTIAL REBATE
ON SALES TAX IN EXCHANGE FOR
SIGNING MORE OF ITS ONLINE SALES
TO THE CITY.
TUESDAY WE ALSO NOTE THAT AS
ONLINE SALES CONTINUE TO
INCREASE THE CONCENTRATION WILL
INCREASE.
AS WELL AS UNLESS THE LAW IS
AMENDED.
BASED ON OUR FINDINGS WE THINK A
MORE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION
WOULD BE TO ASSIGN BRADLEY BURNS
TAXES ON ONLINE SALES TO THE
SHIPPING DESTINATION. RATHER
THAN A RETAILER'S WAREHOUSE OR
DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
THAT'S WE RECOMMENDED TO THE
LEGISLATURE THAT IT AMANDA
BRADLEY BURNS SALES TAX. TAX LAW
TO ALLOCATE REVENUES FROM
INTERNET SALES BASED ON THE
DESTINATION OF SOUL GOODS.
RATHER THAN THE PLACE OF SALE.
SCA TWENTY IS CONSISTENT WITH
OUR RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU AND I'M PREPARED TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU
VERY GOOD THANK YOU MISS TOP
PICK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS WHERE TOP ON BEHALF OF
THE ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
AUTHORITY. BUT WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF THE MEASURE. ON THE LOCAL
TRANSPORTATION FUND PORTION THE
QUARTER CENT PORTION OF BRADLEY
BURNS SALES TAX HAS HISTORICALLY
FUNDED ABOUT FIFTY PERCENT OF
THOSE CTA'S BUS OPERATIONS. ANY
VARIATION IN FUNDING DIRECTLY
IMPACTS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF
TRANSIT SERVICES WITHIN OUR
COUNTY. IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN AS
NOTED A CTO SPONSORED THE AUDIT
REQUEST THAT WAS JUST OUTLINED.
AT THAT POINT WHEN WE ASKED FOR
IT. WE THEORIZE THAT THIS WAS
DUE TO THE PROLIFERATION OF
ONLINE SALES IN THE UNIQUE SITE
S. RULES FOR PRIDE BRADLEY BURNS
SALES TAXES.
WHICH ARE DIRECTED REVENUES TO
THE PLACE OF DISTRIBUTION RATHER
THAN THE PLACE OF SALE THE STATE
AUDITOR'S FINDINGS AS WE JUST
HEARD. LAST NOVEMBER NOVEMBER
CONFIRMED THIS TREND NOTING THAT
ONLINE SALES ARE LIKELY TO
INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY IN FUTURE
YEARS.
THE KEY FINDING FROM THE AUDIT
WAS THAT THE SITE IS RULES FOR
BRADLEY BURNS SALES TAXES SHOULD
BE CHANGED TO THE PLACE OF
DESTINATION CONFORMING TO MOST
SALES TAXES. AND ALLOWING A MORE
JUST AND EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION
OF REVENUES.
IF THE SITE IS ROLES ARE NOT
CHANGED IT WILL DETRIMENTALLY
IMPACT.
CTA'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE
SUSTAINABLE TRANSIT SERVICES
WITH A C. T. A LIKELY RECEIVING
TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS
LESS IN TRANSIT FUNDS ANNUALLY.
WHEN THE BRADLEY BURNS SALES TAX
AUTHORITY AND LATER LOCAL
TRANSPORTATION FUND WERE
CREATED.
THERE WAS NO WAY THE LEGISLATURE
COULD HAVE PREDICTED THE IMPACT
OF ONLINE SALES. STA TWENTY WILL
ENSURE THAT THIS CRITICAL
FUNDING STREAM IS EQUITABLY
EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED CONSISTENT
WITH THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATIVE
INTENT. WITHOUT WE ASK FOR YOUR
IPHONE HAPPEN ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU OTHERS IN
SUPPORT.
SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN
OPPOSITION.
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WELCOME. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
SOUGHT NODDED OPPOSITION BOAT
ARE DOING KERRY WITH A LOOK AT
CALIFORNIA CITIES.
THE AUTHOR MENTIONED TO HIS
WORK WITH US ON ON THIS ISSUE.
A COUPLE THINGS ALL ON THIS
ISSUE ARE THIS IS IT AND THIS IS
NOT A NEW ISSUE FOR THE LEAGUE
OF CITIES WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON
THIS ISSUE REALLY GOING BACK TO
TWENTY FIFTEEN WHEN OUR. A CITY
OFFICIALS ARE BEGINNING TO
NOTICE CHANGES AND REVENUE
ALLOCATION A LOT OF IT DIRECTED
CONNECTED TO INTERNET SALES AND
SO THIS IS AN ISSUE WE'VE BEEN
WORKING ON.
THE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT.
WE WE WE LOOK TO DIFFERENT
ASPECTS OF THE SALES TAX ISSUE
ARE CLEARLY ONE OF THE THINGS WE
WE LOOKED AT WAS THE ALLOCATION
ISSUE AND I WOULD SAY THERE'S
PROBABLY. NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT
CITIES THEN THEN CERTAINLY THE
ALLOCATION OF SALES TAX A VERY.
THAT SIGNIFICANT REVENUE SOURCE
FOR CITIES IT'S ONE WE CARE A
LOT ABOUT.
BUT WELL WE ARE WHAT WE DO
BELIEVE IN IN IN IN PRINCIPLE OF
THE NOTION OF DESTINATION
ALLOCATION THE DEVIL'S GOING TO
BE IN THE DETAIL AS TO HOW WE
GET FROM WHERE WE ARE IN THE
SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE THIS
COMMUNITIES OF RELIED ON. ON THE
CURRENT SYSTEM A TO MOVE UP TO
TRANSITION TO ANOTHER SYSTEM.
IT AS AS PART OF THAT EFFORT
THE LEAGUE OF PUT TOGETHER A
WORKING GROUP OF OUR CITY
MANAGER STARTING LAST FALL
BEFORE THIS BILL WAS EVEN. IN IN
EXISTENCE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
ON THIS ISSUE REALLY IS AN
OUTGROWTH OF SOME OF THE WORK TO
BE DONE SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN. OF
THAT GROUP IS CONTINUING TO ME.
SARAH GLAZER DID COME BY TO
VISIT OR GROUP WHEN THEY MET
LAST THURSDAY AND WE WE WANT TO
TRY TO FIND IF THERE'S A WAY
THAT WE CAN GET BUILD ENOUGH
INTERNAL CONSENSUS. THAT WE CAN
MOVE TO THE SYSTEM WE HAVE TODAY
AND THE WAY THAT WE KNOW A TO
MAYBE ONE THAT'S MORE ALIGNED
WITH THE FUTURE ECONOMY BUT IN A
WAY. THAT THAT TRULY OF
MITIGATES THE THE IMPACTS AS
MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON ON OUR
MEMBERS OF SUCH A TRANSITION SO
THAT'S WHERE WE OR WE DO
APPRECIATE THE SENATOR COMING
OVER. WE'VE WE'VE SORT OF HELD
OFF ON TAKING A POSITION IN
LIGHT OF THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE
BEEN WORKING ON FOR AWHILE AND
WE WANT TO GET GIVE IT A CHANCE
TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET
SOMEWHERE BEFORE WE TAKE A
POSITION SO THANK YOU. VERY GOOD
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT WE
MAY I MAY COME BACK TO YOU SO
PLEASE STICK AROUND.- THOSE IN
OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON STERN COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME SCOTT HARNESSING
THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF THEY
KNEW ABOUT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THIS AFTERNOON.
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF A NEW
BOAT WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE SCA
TWENTY.
THE CITY THEY KNEW HIS RELIANT
ON THE CURRENT LOCAL SALES TAX
AS IT IS TO PROVIDE CRITICAL
SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS.
SINCE TWO THOUSAND ONE THE CITY
OF DANA'S BEEN HOME TO A
DISTRIBUTION CENTER FOR BEST
BUY.
THE ONE POINT TWO MILLION SQUARE
FOOT ACILITY PROVIDES MORE THAN
THREE HUNDRED FIFTY JOBS FOR
RESIDENTS AND CONTRIBUTES TO THE
ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR CITY.
THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND ITS
ACTIVITIES ALSO HAVE IMPACTS ON
THE CITY. INCLUDING WHERE TO OUR
STREETS THE USE OF
INFRASTRUCTURE. AS WELL AS
RELIANCE ON PUBLIC SAFETY ALL OF
WHICH COME IN A CONTEST
SIGNIFICANT COST. TO KEEP IN
MIND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE
IMPACT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND I'LL
GET TO THIS BUT IN EXCHANGE.
THE THE AMOUNT WE ARE TO LOSE ON
THE PUBLIC SERVICES PART. OR
EMTS OUR PARAMEDICS ALSO SUPPORT
OF THE SURROUNDING
UNINCORPORATED JURISDICTIONS
SUCH AS A ROSY COLOR. A MONTH
ALL TAN AND WHICH ARE
POPULATIONS LESS THAN TEN
THOUSAND. WITH.
MEDIAN INCOMES LESS THAN TWENTY
THOUSAND.
THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER. IN TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN BEST BUY DOT
COM IN THE CITY THEY KNEW BUT
DIDN'T GO SHE'D OPERATING
AGREEMENT. THAT WOULD DO THE
DISTRIBUTION FACILITY AND I KNEW
BETTER WAS THERE FOR FULFILLMENT
CENTER FOR EACH COMMERCE. IN
EXCHANGE FOR THAT COMMITMENT
FROM BESTBUY DOT COM THE CITY
AGREED TO SHARE THE FORTY FIVE
PERCENT OF THE SALES TAX
REVENUE.
FROM THE ONLINE SALES FROM
BESTBUY DOT COM WHICHRELIED ON
THE AGREEMENT AND ESTABLISHING.
WITTY TO BE OPERATIONAL IN DATA
ABOUT.
THIS SALES TAX SHARING WAS
CRITICAL TO PROVIDING THE CITY
OF DIE NEVER WITHIN NEEDED
REVENUE. TO FUND CORE PUBLIC
SERVICES SUCH AS THOSE POLICE
AND FIRE THAT I JUST TALKED
ABOUT.
BY CHANGING THE WAY LOCAL SALES
TAXES ARE DISTRIBUTED EFFETE
EIGHT TWENTY WOULD HAVE A
DISASTROUS EFFECT ON THE CITY OF
A NEW AND ITS ABILITY TO PROVIDE
THOSE SERVICES SERVICES TO
RESIDENTS. INTO THE SURROUNDING
UNINCORPORATED JURISDICTIONS.
WITHOUT THE AGREEMENT. DESCRIBED
ABOVE THE CITY WOULD LOSE
APPROXIMATELY FORTY PERCENT OF
OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET
REVENUES.
VERY LIKELY THAT THE CITY'S
GONNA GOING TO HARDSHIP AND THE
THE SERIOUS LAYOFFS AND SERIOUS
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE CITY OF
DENVER AND SURROUNDED.
WE DO RECOGNIZE OTHER LOCAL
AGENCIES ALL LACKING
DISTRIBUTION CENTERS FOR ONLINE
RETAILERS DESIRE TO SEE CHANGES
TO THE LOCAL SALES TAX LAW. TO
ALLOW FOR GENERAL DISTRIBUTION
OF THOSE TAX REVENUES HOWEVER
BEST BUYS DISTRIBUTION AND E.
COMMERCE FULFILLMENT CENTER. IS
IS PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE
CITY OF A NEW BOOK. AND AS SUCH
WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT OUR
RECEIPT OF SALES TAX FROM THE
INTERNET SALES FROM THIS
FACILITY SHOULD REMAIN LOCALLY.
WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE LEAGUE OF
CITIES.
THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR AND THE
AMENDMENTS TO THE LEGISLATION.
SCORES OF. WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR
THOUGH ANY AMENDMENTS NEED TO
PROTECT EXISTING AGREEMENTS AND
VERY THE VERY IT'S IT'S A VERY
SIMPLE FIX. WHEN TACKLING SUCH A
COMPLEX TAX REFORM ITEM.
AGAIN THE CHANGES PROPOSED UNDER
NCA TWENTY WOULD HAVE DISASTROUS
FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS ON
AGENCIES LIKE THE CITY OF A NEW
BOOK. AND CUT WOULD CAUSE
IRREPARABLE HARM TO OUR
COMMUNITY VERY STEEP PRICE TO
PAY TO SEND SMALL TAX PAYMENTS
TO OTHER AGENCIES.
FOR THOSE REASONS HOWEVER
RESPECTFULLY THE CITY OF DENVER
DOES OPPOSE AS CA TWENTY THANK
YOU THANK YOU PROTEST MAESER
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ANGIE MINETTI ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF FRESNO. THIS YEAR
FRESNO HAS A MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD
INCOME OF FORTY TWO THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER YEAR WE HAVE AN
EIGHT POINT SEVEN PERCENT
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. THIRTY
PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION LIVES
IN POVERTY YES THE CITY OF
FRESNO HAS ENTERED INTO
INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS WITH
RETAILERS TO SPUR ECONOMIC
ACTIVITY. AS A RESULT WE HAVE
CREATED THOUSANDS OF JOBS FOR
THE RESIDENTS ENDS IN FRESNO.
WHOM OF WHICH WERE ALSO WELFARE
TO WORK RECIPIENTS.
.
WHEN CONSIDERING I CA TWENTY
THIS IS THIS IS IT CARRIES VERY
VERY GREAT WEIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE
CONSIDERING AMENDING THE
CONSTITUTION. AND THIS IS
POTENTIALLY GOING TO CHANGE THE
TAX ALLOCATION STRUCTURE FOR A
MARKET PLACE THAT IS CONSTANTLY
EVOLVING AND CHANGING. AND I
SHOULD NOTE THAT EVEN THIS
MARKET. IS NOW UNDER PRESSURES
OF.
HE COMMERCE A COMPETITION AND
ARE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE AND
PROVIDE ECONOMISTS FULFILLMENT
CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE
EVEN IN URBAN AREAS WHERE AS
BEFORE OBVIOUSLY THERE BEEN
INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
AND.
IT RURAL AND LAND ON AREAS.
I THINK MOST OF US WOULD AGREE
THAT THIS AREA DOES NEED WORK
AND THE ECONOMIST GOT DOES NEED
TO BE ADDRESSED. ON THE
AUDITOR'S REPORT DID DETAIL
VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS SUCH AS.
EXPANDING LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT
FOR TAX EXPENDITURES ARE
REVIEWING. THE CURRENT TAX
EXEMPTIONS THAT THE STATE
CURRENTLY OFFERS AND ALSO TAXING
DIGITAL GOODS NONE OF THESE
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PRESENT AND
I SEE A TWENTY. INADDITION
THERE IS A PENDING SUPREME COURT
CASE A SOUTH DAKOTA V. WAYFAIR
WHICH COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE
THE WAY. THE COLLECTION OF USE
TAXES DONE BY STATE. I'M.
GIVEN THAT THERE IS SO MUCH IN
FLUX IN THAT THIS IS A MUCH
LARGER CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF
JUST SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT.
BRADLEY BURNS AND HOW.
HOW THE TAX IS ALLOCATED BY THE
PHYSICAL PRESENCE WHICH EXACTLY
IS WHAT?
THIS SUPREME COURT CASE TOUCHES
ON WE BELIEVE THAT AT CA TWENTY
IS VERY MUCH PREMATURE. IT
OFFERS AN INCOMPLETE SOLUTION
AND THIS ISSUE MERITSMORE
DISCUSSION I'M AND SHOULD BE
DONE COMPREHENSIVELY. IN A
MANNER THAT DOESN'T DEVASTATE
RURAL AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND I. OUR CITY IS
NOT CONFIDENT THAT THIS COULD BE
ACHIEVED WITHIN THE CURRENT
LEGISLATIVE TIME FRAME THAT WE
ARE WORKING UNDER.
AND I SEE A TWENTY CONTINUES TO
PERPETUATE WEALTH INEQUALITY BY
TAKING AWAY AN ESSENTIAL
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. THAT
POOR COMMUNITIES USE AND FRANKLY
SHIPS TAX TOO WEALTHY IN A
FLUENT COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE
MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOMES. ARE
WELL ABOVE SIX FIGURES THIS IS
THE DEATH KNELL TO FRESNO'S
ECONOMIC GROWTH AND FINANCIAL
STABILITY. WE ARE A MEMBER OF
THE LEAGUE AND.
.
WE ARE AWARE THAT CONVERSATIONS
HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE WITH THIS
WORKING GROUP UNFORTUNATELY
FRESNO IS NOT REPRESENTED ON
THIS WORKING GROUP AND I THINK
GIVEN OUR TIME FRAME AND. THE
FACT THAT THERE IS MUCH MORE
PENDING ON TAX REFORM IN
GENERAL.
WE WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON
THIS MEASURE TODAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MR NINETY OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU.
LET'S JUST LET'S KEEP THEM BRIEF
IF WE CAN WE'VE DONE WE'VE DONE
THE FINAL AT LEAST TO ME TO AT
THIS POINT I'M SURE YEAH.
FITS OF COUGHING RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION OKAY
VERY GOOD. SORRY THIRTY CUT OFF
BUT OKAY A CHRISTIAN ACADEMY OF
THE COMPUTING TECHNOLOGY
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION.
IF IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO SEE
ONTARIO IN OPPOSITION.
RICHARD I'M ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF EMERYVILLE IN OPPOSITION
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
BRING BACK TO COMMITTEE SAYING
NO OTHERS IN OPPOSITION COMMENTS
QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS.
SENATOR ALAN.
WELL ARMED.
THE NUMBER ONE THINK OFFERING UP
THIS ISSUE I THINK IT'S AN
IMPORTANT ONE AND I THINK ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT MAKES THIS
REALLY TRICKY FOR ALL OF US IS
THAT AND.
YOU KNOW WHILE THE WORLD OF
ONLINE RETAIL HAS MADE MANY
ASPECTS OF ALL OF OUR LIVES MUCH
EASIER.
I HAVE MY OWN VERY MUCH INCLUDED
I AND IT CERTAINLY HAS IMPACTED
BRICK AND MORTAR RETAIL SALES IN
THE ENTIRE. ECONOMIC MODEL
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IN A LOT OF
TOWNS ALL OVER THE STATE AND ITS
ARE IMPACTED THE SALES TAX
GENERATED FROM. RETAIL SALES IN
AND DONE. AND I I DO CONSTANTLY
WORRY ABOUT THE.
SOME OF THE SHIFT HAPPENING IN
OUR ECONOMY.
AND AND HOW IT IMPACTS.
.
THE COMMITMENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS
IN THE CITY AND I KNOW THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS
EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE.
OUR I'VE SPOKE I KNOW YOU KNOW
SENT A LABOR REPRESENTS ONTARIO
THAT AND IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
THIS BILL. I'VE OBVIOUSLY SPOKEN
TO YOU AS WELL I'VE SPOKEN TO
THE CHAIR.
ARE YOU KNOW MY TENDENCY IS TO
WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY
TO TO TO MOVE. THIS DISCUSSION I
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GONNA BE.
YOU'RE ALREADY HAVING INTENSE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE. LEAGUE OF
CITIES AND UNDER THE LEAGUE OF
COURSE ITSELF IS IS HAS SOME
INTERESTING TENSIONS RECORDS ARE
SOME CITIES THAT. BENEFIT FROM
THE CURRENT STATUS QUO THERE'S
OTHERS THAT ARE DISADVANTAGED BY
THE CAN'T STATUS QUO I DO KNOW
THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU
RAISED IS THAT. YOU HAD THIS
SIZE OF THIS MONEY GOES WHILE
OTHERS MIGHT ACTUALLY JUST GOING
DIRECTLY TO THE.
TO THE COMPANIES THAT USE. THIS
PARTICULAR TYPE OF.
TAXES A.
AS A.
AS LIKE A.
NEGOTIATING ITEM I SUPPOSE WHEN
THEY'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE
WHERE TO GO BUT.
.
YOU KNOW SO I GUESS MY MY MY AS
IN MY TENDENCY IS TO WANT TO
SUPPORT YOU ALLOWED IN MOVING
THIS BILL FORWARD TO SAY SO AS
TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS I CAN'T
IMAGINE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO GET VERY FAR IF. YOU CONTINUE
WITH THIS SIDE OF THE SURFERS
OPPOSITION FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES
AND FROM. OTHERS ODD BUT I I AND
ONE OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT IT WE MAYBE THERE'S OME
SORT OF MAGIC SPLIT HERE WHERE
THERE'S GOING TO BE LEE SOME
SORT OF TAX SHARE. BETWEEN THE
THE CITY WITH THE POINT OF SALE
WHERE THE YOU KNOW THE PERSON IS
ACTUALLY BUYING THE ITEM ON THE
PHONE AND. THE DISTRIBUTION
CENTERS THAT YOU KNOW DO YOU
PROVIDE AN IMPORTANT JOB
CREATION MECHANISM THE COURSE
THOSE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. IN
SOME RESPECTS HAVE MADE IT'S
IT'S IT IS BRAND NEW MODEL THAT
THAT IS DETRACTING FROM THE
BRICK AND MORTAR. RETAIL SYSTEM
THAT WE USED TO HAVE AND SO.
THAT'S THE TRICKY THING HERE. I
I APPRECIATE YOU DO YOU WAITING
IN THESE DIFFICULT WATERS AND
DONE BUT I ALSO I'M.
YOU KNOW.
I KNOW THAT BUT I CERTAINLY
REITERATE MY HOPE THAT YOU WILL
WORK WITH.
DEAL COLLEAGUES LIKE SEN ELEVEN
OTHERS WHO ARE I THINK
JUSTIFIABLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
FACT THAT DEALS HAVE BEEN
STRUCK.
WITH THESE TECH COMPANIES AND
THEIR CITIES.
AND THEY'RE CONSIDERED YOU KNOW
THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD THEY'RE
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW TO
MAKE THE IT THEIR ECONOMIC MODEL
WORK. AND.
.
I I YOU KNOW YOU GOT A SENSE OF
THAT.
I KNOW YOU ARE BUT NOW I'M I
DON'T IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS
ON THAT.
THROUGH THE CHAIR THE CHAIR.
AS SENATOR AT THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COMMENTS AND OF COURSE I AM.
.
YEAH DEAD AT LEAST FROM THE
CITY'S POINT OF VIEW THEY THEY
DID THEY ENGAGE IN THESE
AGREEMENTS TO THE BEST OF
INTENTIONS. THINKING ABOUT THEIR
RESIDENCE WELL BEING AND WHAT
WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM IN TERMS
OF THE JOB CREATION AND THE
REVENUES BRING AND. AND I I AM
AWARE OF THAT I I THINK FROM THE
FROM THE THE MULTINATIONAL
COMPANIES POINT OF VIEW THEY'RE
JUST WORKING WITH THE SYSTEM
THAT'S OUT THERE.
AND THAT SOME OF THEM PLAYED
FAST AND LOOSE WITH EVEN THEIR
OBLIGATION TO PAY SALES TAXES
FOR FOR MANY MANY YEARS.
WHICH WE TRY TO CORRECT JUST A
COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND A BUT I THINK THEY'VE ALSO
BEEN IN A POSITION GIVEN OUR
CURRENT.
TAX LAWS TO TO.
MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM AND TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF IT. IS A VERY
IMPORTANT FACT BECAUSE THEY TALK
ABOUT HOW THIS MONEY GOES FOR
SERVICES IMPORTANT COMMUNITY
SERVICES.
.
ABOUT TWENTY PERCENT OF THE
BRADLEY BURNS TAXES THAT COMMITS
A BILLION DOLLARS.
OKAY ABOUT SIX BILLION IS RAISED
FROM BRADLEY BURNS. A BILLION
DOLLARS DOESN'T GO TO THE CITIES
THAT WERE THAT WERE THESE
FACILITIES ARE LOCATED. FOR
SERVICES.
THAT BILLION DOLLARS IS REBATED
RIGHT BACK TO THOSE COMPANIES
WHO MADE THOSE DEALS.
WE DIDN'T IF WE CHANGE THE THE
BUT THE RULES AS I'M SUGGESTING
IN THIS BILL. THAT'S A BILLION
DOLLARS THAT RAISES EVERY VOTE
FOR EVERY CITY IN CALIFORNIA.
THAT WE CAN GO FOR THOSE
IMPORTANT SERVICES NOW IT'S
TRADED AWAY IN THESE IN THESE
AGREEMENTS.
AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT
UNDERSTAND THAT YES THERE IS
BUDGETARY IMPACT STRICTLY FOR
SOME VERY SMALL CITIES THAT HAVE
MADE THEIR AGREEMENTS.
I'M AT A VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT
AND I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO TO
MITIGATE THAT IMPACT AND I'M
VERY OPEN TO THOSE. IDEAS THAT'S
WHY I MET WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CITIES AND THEIR TASK FORCE AND
IT'S A WRENCHING ISSUE TO COME
TOGETHER ON BUT I'M VERY OPEN TO
IT I I I JUST KNOW THAT THE
SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE IS IN
FAIR AND EQUITABLE. AND WE HAVE
TO FIND A TRANSITION TO A MORE
FAIR PLACE.
THANK YOU SENATOR ALAN.
THANK YOU OTHER MEMBERS THEIR
LABOR.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. US
SENATOR GLAZER I HAVE BEEN IN
THE SENATE FOR FOUR YEARS AND I
HAVE VOTED ON A LOT OF THINGS A
LOT OF THINGS HAVE COME BEFORE
ME.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT I
FIND MOST OFFENSIVE BECAUSE IT
STRIKES AT THE CORE OF THE
PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT. AND
THERE ARE IN MY ESTIMATION HAS
BEEN NO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO
THEM WHATSOEVER. BEFORE I TELL
YOU WHY I DON'T LIKE THIS.
MEASURE HOW MANY DIE WAREHOUSES
DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER
SENT UP CABLE I CAN HELP YOU
WITH HOW MANY ARE IN MINE WE
HAVE THOUSANDS IN THE INLAND
EMPIRE WE HAVE MORE AND SENATE
DISTRICT TWENTY. THAN ANYWHERE
IN THE COUNTRY SO I WISH WHEN
YOU WERE DECIDING TO DO THIS HE
WOULD'VE COME AND TALK TO ME THE
PERSON WHO REPRESENTS ALL OF
THESE PEOPLE. WHERE HOUSES ARE
NOT THE PANACEA THAT SOME FOLKS
THINK THEY ARE? AS SOMEONE SAID
THAT WE'RE GETTING A
DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF SALES
TAX WELL IF WE ARE WE'RE ALSO
GETTING A DISPROPORTIONATE
AMOUNT OF USE ON OUR ROADS
TRUCKS ON OUR ROADS. TRASH AND
AIR POLLUTION SO A LOT OF THAT
MONEY IS USED TO MEDICATE THOSE.
I COULD GIVE YOU LOTS OF
DIFFERENT STATISTICS BERMAN
TALKED TO ABOUT THE ROACH
FAMILY.
KIM AND TOMMY ROCHA WHO BOUGHT
THEIR RETIREMENT HOME IN
BLOOMINGTON AND.
THEY LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT TWO
YEARS AND THEY DID SOMETHING
THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO THEY
CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE VACANT
LOT BEHIND THEM THE CHECK TO SEE
WHAT THAT WAS OWNED FOR. IT WAS
ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL SO THEY
FELT VERY CONFIDENT BUYING THIS
HOUSE THAT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN
BEHIND THEM THAT THEY WOULDN'T
BE OKAY WITH. WELL NOW AWARE
HOUSE IS GOING TO WITH IT AS WE
HAVE WITHIN THE QUARTER MILE THE
BUS STOP BECAUSE. HE ACTUALLY
WAS THE CENTER WINNER WOULD HAVE
SOMETHING TO DO YEAH I COULD
TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT BUT THIS
IS NOT FUNNY OKAY THIS IS VERY
SERIOUS NO JOKES I'M SORRY.
BECAUSE ALSO NOBODY'S GETTING
RICH WORKING IN A WAREHOUSE SO
WE ACT LIKE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW
ALL YOU GET ALL THOSE JOBS. YEAH
MOST OF THEM ARE LOW WAGE JOBS
SO I'M NOT EVEN HAPPY WITH THE
WAREHOUSES. SO BACK TO THE
ROACHES SO THE ROACHES MAKE SURE
THAT THESE THERE'S NOTHING AND
WE BUILT THE HOUSES BEHIND THEM.
WELL NOW THE OTHER IS A COUNCIL
AT THAT REPRESENTS SOME CAUSE OR
AN INCORPORATED AND THEY WANT TO
CHANGE THE ZONING SO THAT THEY
CAN BUILD A WAREHOUSE RIGHT
BEHIND THEM. IT WILL LITERALLY
BE SEVENTY FEET FROM THEIR BACK
DOOR AND THIS WAREHOUSE WILL BE
BUILT WAREHOUSES GENERATE ABOUT
THIRTEEN HUNDRED TRIPS A DAY
FROM TRUCKS THIRTEEN HUNDRED
THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO IMAGINE.
SO EVERY DAY THEY WILL HAVE
THESE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT IN
AND OUT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT
UNLESS THAT IS NOT PART OF THE
ORDINANCE. SO THAT IS ONE
EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
IMPACTED BY THESE WAREHOUSES. IF
WE ARE GETTING A
DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF TAX
REVENUE IN SENATE DISTRICT
TWENTY IT IS TO MITIGATE THINGS
LIKE THIS. AND AGAIN I AM I AM
OFFENDED THAT YOU WOULDN'T COME
AND TALK TO ME AND FIND OUT HOW
WE CAN CHANGE SOMETHING THAT
WOULDN'T JUST PORT. AFFECT MY
DISTRICT AND HARM MY PEOPLE YOU
KNOW WHAT THERE ARE LOTS OF
PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE STATE
LOTS OF CITIES UP AND DOWN THE
STATE WERE DOING JUST FINE WE
NEED THIS IN THE IMPLEMENT
HIGHER WE CONTINUE TO BE STREET
AT LIKE A STEP CHILD. IN THE
INLAND EMPIRE I HAVE A HARD
WORKING PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT
THAT DON'T DESERVE THIS SO I
HOPE THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT GET
OUT OF COMMITTEE TODAY BUT IF IT
DOES AND IT COMES TO THE FLOOR.
I WILL DO MY DARNDEST TO MAKE
SURE IT DIES ON THE SENATE FLOOR
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR LABOR. OTHER
COMMENTS.
YES CENTER ANDERSON.
HI I'M.
THE LAST TIME I ORDERED ON THE
INTERNET.
A TRUCK. CAME DOWN MY STREET.
AND DELIVER THE PRODUCT.
THE TAXES I PAY COULD OFFSET THE
COST OF THE POLLUTION.
AND THE ROAD DESTRUCTION.
IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE THE MONEY STARTED MY
BACK POCKET.
AND WHILE I APPRECIATE A
WAREHOUSE ME HAVE MANY MORE.
I STILL HAVE SOME BUT ONLY TO
THE LEVEL THAT I PAY TAXES. FOR
THOSE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.
SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A.
A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS
AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU
BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP.
WHEN I GO TO BUY UP.
CAR DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I GO
TO GET THE SALE.
I PAY THE SALES TAX IN MY COUNTY
OR IN MY CITY.
DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I BUY.
ON THE SAME TOKEN.
WE WANT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES
AND WE WANT THOSE JOBS AND IN
COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THOSE
JOBS.
COURSE I THINK THAT EVERY
COMMUNITY IN CALIFORNIA NEEDS
THOSE JOBS.
SO.
YOU KNOW I THINK THERE HAS TO BE
BALANCE.
AND I AND I I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE ASKING ALL
THESE QUESTIONS. AND I WANNA BE
OPEN MINDED.
TO ALL THE BENEFITS IN THE
BALANCES MOVING FORWARD.
SO FOR THAT REASON I'M HAPPY TO
MOVE THE BILL.
THE MOTION FROM CENTER ANDERSON.
.
IS ONE THE WAY IN I KNOW WE'VE
HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE
BILL I KNOW YOU'VE. YOU'VE BEEN
DOING SOME WORK ON THIS PRIOR TO
COMMITTEE TO TRY TO GET IT INTO
WHICH TO. APOSITION OR
CONDITION THAT'S READY.
IT'S READY FOR THE BALLOT I
KNOW WE HAVE SOME TIMING ISSUES
BUT.
.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS
NOT.
THE SAME IS GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE. OR NOT ACT I DON'T FEEL
JURISDICTION THE NECESSARY
APPROPRIATE WEIGHING IN ON THE
IMPACTS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT
TAXATION.
BUT THIS COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW IS
OVER WHAT GOES ON THE BALLOT
THROUGH CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT.
AND ON WHAT TERMS.
AND MY CONSTERNATION ABOUT THE
BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS NOT
SO MUCH IN THE END GOAL. OF
TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY TO CATCH
UP TWO WEEK COMMERCE AND I THINK
WE'VE ALL SEEN AN EVOLUTION
THAT'S.
OUTPACED MAYBE OUR SALES TAX
DYNAMIC BUT. I DON'T FEEL
COMFORTABLE THIS POINT.
PLAY MEDIATOR. BETWEEN CITIES
THAT. HAVE ENTERED INTO
AGREEMENTS UNDER STRICT YOU KNOW
ONE SET OF RULES EITHER OF THE
ROAD. AND THEN CHANGING THOSE
RULES.
AND RETROACTIVELY SEVERING THOSE
AGREEMENTS I THINK RECISIONS IS
SERIOUS ISSUE NOW I KNOW THERE
AND I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO WEIGH
IN.
IN YOUR CLOTHES BUT.
.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS
IN SOME OF THE CONTRACTS THAT
HAVE BEEN ENTERED INTO LOOKING
AT THESE SORT OF CHANGING RISK
FACTORS POTENTIALLY BUT.
I WOULD PREFER I KNOW YOU KNOW I
DISCUSS THAT I WOULD REALLY TRY
TO TAKE SOME TIME. LED THE
LEAGUE IN GAUGING THE PROCESS
AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME
DISCUSSION HOW URGENTLY THINGS
ARE BEING DISCUSSED IN THE
LEAGUE.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE DISCUSSED
MORE URGENTLY. AND I THINK THERE
SHOULD BE AS OPEN AS A PROCESS
AS POSSIBLE.
SPECIALLY BRING STAKEHOLDERS
THE TABLE MAKING SURE THAT
WHATEVER SUB COMMITTEES WORKING
ON IT THAT THOSE WHO ARE GOING
TO BE IMPACTED DIRECTLY BITER
ACTUALLY PART OF THAT PROCESS.
SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO
SORT OF.
SLOW THIS DOWN AND.
WAIT TILL WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE
CONSENSUS OR A LITTLE BIT MORE
OF AN UNDERSTANDING FROM FROM
YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT.
WHAT?
MITIGATION OR WHAT SORT OF.
MEASURES YOU'RE YOU'RE
ENTERTAINING TO SORT OF MINIMIZE
THE IMPACT OF THOSE WHO HAVE
ALREADY. UNDERTAKEN THESE
AGREEMENTS BUT I'VE ALSO LET YOU
KNOW THAT YOU KNOW I WANT TO
LEAVE IT TO YOUR DISCRETION AS
TO HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE THE BILL
AND. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY BUT I
WILL ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE
AS THE AS THEY PLEASE AND. I
WOULD RESERVE THE RIGHT TO TO
I'M GONNA BE WEIGHING IN ON THE
FLOOR TO AND WHAT I WOULD JUST
ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IS IF THE
BILL. DOES MAKE IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE TODAY AND OUT OF
APPROPRIATIONS I ASSUME IT'LL GO
TO SUSPENSE AS MOST
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS TO BUT
IF IT MAKES IT OUT.
THAT WE HAVE DEMONSTRABLE
PROGRESS IN A REAL VISION FROM
YOU OF WHERE YOU WANT THIS THING
TO GO WHEN WE GET TO THE SENATE
FLOOR WE DON'T WE'RE NOT
BURDENED BY THE POLICY DEADLINES
WITH. SENATE CONSTITUTION I MEAN
WITH CONSTITUTIONAL MOMENTS IN
GENERAL SO I THINK WE HAVE MORE
TIME AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IS BIG
THIS MORE FULLY BUT I. I I DID
WANT TO ALSO JUST A FORTY THE
DISCRETION TO MAKE THAT DECISION
YOURSELF AS TO HOW YOU WANT TO
PRESENT THIS BILL TO COMMITTEE
SO.
WITHOUT ALL OUR MEMBERS TO YOU
KNOW. I'M NOT GOING TO BE
ISSUING A RECOMMENDATION FROM
THE CHAIR.
BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL TODAY.
BUT I I DO WELCOME ATANY
FEEDBACK AND CENTER ALAN YOU
HAVE FURTHER I DO WANT TO STAY
WITH YOU KNOW WITH WITH.
GREAT RESPECT AND AND.
FRENCH OVER THE CHAIR I I I DO
I YOU KNOW. I DEPART THE GOOD
PART PART OF THE ROLE OF AS
CHAIR IF YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT
THIS IS THAT IS THE.
KEEP IT HERE I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING IS THAT YOU.
ARE YOU ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE
GONNA.
LET IT OUT FOR TIMING REASONS
AND AND IF IT PASSES AND THEN
KEEP WORKING I'M NOT GOING TO
HOLD THE BILL AGAINST THE
AUTHORS WILL EITHER I'VE I
SUGGESTED THAT AS AN OPTION TO
HOLD THE BILL AND WAIT.
HE'D HE OPTED TO BRING THE BILL
FOR TODAY.
SO CAN I NOT SUPPORTED THE BILL
IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
I'M OPEN TO CHANGES BUT.
THAT'S THAT IS THE POSITION OF
THE CHAIR WHY IS IT THAT YOU'RE
NOT WILLING TO WORK WITH THE
CHAIR ON THIS.
OF COURSE TO THE CHAIR PLEASE NO
I I THINK THAT.
AS I INDICATED IN MY TESTIMONY
AND. I'LL REITERATE I I'D LIKE
TO FIND A WAY TO MITIGATE THE
IMPACTS ON EXISTING CITIES THAT
HAVE MADE THESE AGREEMENTS AND.
THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AS A TASK
FORCE TO TRY TO. MOVING DOES
THAN A CONSENSUS DIRECTION I'M
SUPPORTIVE OF THAT OBVIOUSLY IF
THEY HAD THAT. OUT POINT OF VIEW
THAT YOU SHARE WITH US TODAY WE
WOULD BE ABLE TO. WRAP IT IN
ABOUT A POTENTIAL LATE AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HOPE TO
TRY TO ADVANCE AND MAKE PROGRESS
ON IN THE COMING WEEKS NAIROBI
THEY'RE THE. CENTER LATER JUST
ASK THE LEAGUE TO COME BACK UP
AND AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEIR
TIMELINE IS HERE I I DON'T MEAN
TO CUT YOU OFF BUT I THINK THAT
IT SHOULD BE INFORMATIVE FOR
DISCUSSION ABOUT CENTER OBSOLETE
PLEASE.
NOTTO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT DAN
BUT.
PUT YOU ON THE SPOT SO.
SENSE OF TIMING IS A PROCESS
HERE JUST IT. IS IS A STUD
FORMED THE THE COMMITTEE EARLIER
WE WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS IS
OUT OF THEIR CITY MANAGER
WORKING GROUP BOB WE PULLED
TOGETHER IN THE FALL SO. WE'VE
WE'VE BUT MET I THINK ABOUT FOUR
TIMES NOW. OF I I THINK THAT A
LOT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE
HAVING ARE NOT TOO DIFFERENT
THAN THE DISCUSSIONS THIS
COMMITTEE'S HAVING IN TERMS OF
TRYING TO FIND THAT THE RIGHT
BALANCE POINT. OF THERE'S BEEN
TALK ABOUT I THINK WE WOULD
WOULD SAY THAT.
AN ABRUPT CHANGE IS IS NOT
WORKABLE I MEAN THERE HAS TO BE
SOME TRANSITION SO CERTAINLY
THERE'S TALK ABOUT TRANSITION.
THE ISSUES OF OF WHAT DO YOU DO
IN AN INTERNET ECONOMY WHERE YOU
HAVE THE BACKBONE TO THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IT FOR INTERNET
ECONOMIES COULD BE IF YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LOGISTICS
AND WAREHOUSES. WORK MAYBE YOU
HAD BRICK AND MORTAR BEFORE
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THERE SOME
DISCUSSION MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE
SOME KIND OF SPLIT AND KIND OF
RECOGNITION. SO.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
THE THE THE REPRESENTATIVES ON
THE GROUP ON TERRY WAS ONE OF
THE CITY'S THAT'S BEEN A PART OF
THIS GROUP FROM THE BEGINNING.
OUT WE TRY TO HAVE A GROUP OF OF
DIVERSE A DIVERSE SPECTRUM OF
CITIES AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DO IS HAVE THAT DIFFICULT
CONVERSATION INTERNALLY IT AND I
THINK AS THE CENTER COULD TELL
WHEN HE CAME OVER. THIS IS A
SERIOUS CONVERSATION WAS A
SERIOUS CONVERSATION INTERNALLY
BEFORE.
SCA TWENTY AND AND WE ARE
TREATED AS SERIOUSLY AS I SAID
BEFORE OUR POLICY OBJECTIVE IS I
THINK OUR MEMBERS WANT TO GET TO
A LINE THERE RIGHT THERE THEY'RE
REVENUE WITH WITH THE FUTURE
ECONOMY. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO
FIND THE BRIDGE WERE TRYING TO
CONSTRUCT A BRIDGE ARM I I KNOW
THERE'S DEADLINES ASSOCIATED
WITH THIS AMENDMENT I DON'T KNOW
ULTIMATELY. WHERE WE'LL BE ON
THOSE DEADLINES I JUST COULDN'T
COMMIT TO THE COMMITTEE AND
ENTER THE AUTHOR THAT WE ARE
TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY W ARE
WORKING HARD? AND AND ULTIMATELY
IS OUR MEMBERS ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WHAT
WE CONSTRUCTED IS SUFFICIENT.
OF. COURSE SORRY CENTER EDITION
THEN I'LL COME BACK OVER
ALTHOUGH WE ARE WE ON YOUR TIME
WE'RE GONNA CUT YOU OFF.
I HAVE CALLED TO RESPECT BECAUSE
THERE IS A BACK CENTER LABOR.
.
MISTER CHAIR HOW HOW MUCH TIME
WOULD IT TAKE FOR THIS TO.
WINDOWS TWO PROBES BEFORE GETS
THIS SENATE FLOOR.
IF WE ALLOWED IT OUT TODAY.
WHAT WE'RE WHERE WOULD WE BE AS
FAR AS
DROP DEAD TIME?
I MEAN THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT SO IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO
THE SAME HOUSE OF ORIGIN
DEADLINES THAT A NORMAL.
POLICY BILL WOULD BE AT THE
DEADLINE I BELIEVE IN THE AUTHOR
CAN CORRECTLY BUT IT'S ABOUT THE
BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER THAT'S
REALLY THE. THE DEADLINE IS
BEARING DOWN ON ON THE BILL HERE
NOT SO MUCH OUR LEGISLATIVE
CALENDAR AND MISTER CHAIR I I
WOULD POINT OUT THAT I'M SORRY
IN ITS JUNE TWENTY EIGHT JUST TO
BE CLEAR TO HAVE THE.
TO GET IT THROUGH BOTH HOUSES
RIGHT TO GET ON THE NOVEMBER
BALLOT SO SO SO SO.
.
IF I MAY.
HE STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE
ASSEMBLY. HE STILL HAS TO GO
THROUGH A LOT OF HURDLES.
.
WHAT? WHAT I HATE TO HAVE HAPPEN
IS THE CLOCK RUN OUT IN
EVERYBODY COMES TO AN AGREEMENT?
I'M WARNING IF WE CAN'T MOVE IT
FORWARD.
.
NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF
YOU IS CERTAINLY YOUR TRUST
FACTOR WITH THE AUTHOR. BUT I'M
COMFORTABLE AS VICE CHAIR.
THAT WE MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE AUTHOR THAT.
WE CAN BRING BACK MANY WAR.
PUT SOME PUT SOME UP BENCHMARKS
IN OF ACHIEVEMENT SO THAT WE
DON'T HOLD IT BACK BUT WE ALSO
AWARDED WORKING TOWARDS THIS.
COLLECTIVE IDEA IS. IS THAT
POSSIBLE IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D
MIGHT NOT DO I THINK IT IS I I
AM OPEN AND THAT'S THE REASON I
DIDN'T HOLD BILL TODAY.
IN COMMITTEE BECAUSE I'M
RECOGNIZING THE TIMING HERE AND
I ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS SOME
EFFICACY TO HAVING A FULL SENATE
VOTE ON THIS AND I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT BUT
IT'S GOING TO BE THERE'S GOING
TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
OPINIONS AND SOME REALLY STRONG.
OPINIONS I'M SURE FOR MANY
FOLKS.
BOTHERED I'VE HAD SEVERAL
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT. I'VE I
FEEL OF FIRM COMMITMENT AT LEAST
TO CONTINUE WORK WITH THE
COMMITTEE I WOULD JUST SAY.
IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF PROCESS
GOING FORWARD.
WE NEED BETTER DATA EITHER OUT
OF THE LEAGUE OR OUT OF THE
PROPONENTS HERE ABOUT WHAT THE
ACTUAL IMPACT GOING TO BE TO
MAKE REALLY CONCRETE DECISIONS
FOR OURSELVES IF WE ARE ACTUALLY
TO BRING THIS. TO THE VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA. IF YOUR INTENTION IS
TO MOVE THE BILL IN ITS CURRENT
FORM OFF THE SENATE FLOOR I'VE
YOU KNOW I HAVE.
.
CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BUT ALSO I
WOULD SAY. IF YOU WERE TO GET
OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY WOULD PULL
IT BACK TO COMMITTEE THEN HERE
IF IT WERE SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED.
.
BUT YEAH SO YOU IF THIS DOES GET
OFF THE FLOOR AND CHANGE FORM
YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO VOTE ON
IT AGAIN I JUST CAN'T VOTE ON
THE BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM
THERE'S IT'S IT'S TOO VAGUE IN
TERMS OF MITIGATION PLANNING AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY
I WANTED TO OFFER TO THE
COMMITTEE'S DISCRETION SO NO
OFFENSE TAKEN.
END OF STANDARDS SORRY CENTER
LABOR YES.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IF THE
AUTHOR TRULY WANTS TO COME TO
SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR
EVERYONE YOU WOULD HOLD THE BILL
BECAUSE AS I SAID BEFORE YOU
NEVER EVEN CAME AND TALKED TO ME
I HAD TO GO TO YOU ON THE SENATE
FLOOR AND SAY WHAT. IS THIS SO
IF YOU'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR
EVERYONE THERE IS NO DISTRICT IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT IS
MORE IMPACTED THAT MY DISTRICT
BY THIS. AND IF YOU REALLY DO
WANT TO MAKE IT WORK HOLD THE
BUILD LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING
SO THAT EVERYONE BENEFITS. I
KNOW THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU FEEL
THAT THERE ARE CITIES THAT ARE
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING
ENOUGH OF THE SALES TAX SO
BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS
THAT WE WANT TO SPREAD IT AROUND
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA TAKE ONE
DISADVANTAGE GROUP AND MOVED TO
ANOTHER DISADVANTAGE. GROUP WE
REALLY WANT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE
THE LET'S FIND SOMETHING THAT
BENEFITS EVERYONE YOU HARM MY
PEOPLE THE PEOPLE
THAT I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE THAT
CONTINUE TO BE TREATED LIKE
SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. SO I
WOULD JUST ASK YOU SENATOR
GLAZER IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO
SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE
HELPFUL HOLD THE BILL AND LET'S
DO SOMETHING THAT HELPS
EVERYONE.
THROUGH THE CHAIR DID YOU WANNA
RESPOND CENTER ALLEN WERE YOU WE
ARE ALRIGHT FOR NOW. DID YOU.
YEAH MISTER CHAIR I I THINK
THAT.
IT'S NOT A FAIR ASSERTION TO
SAY THAT THIS BILL WAS WRITTEN
TO.
THE HURT ONE PARTICULAR SENATE
DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA I THINK
THAT.
AND I I THINK THAT WHAT I'M
TRYING TO TO DO IN THIS
LEGISLATION'S WRESTLE WITH THE
VERY DIFFICULT PROBLEM. THAT HAS
BEEN GET CREATED BY THE
EMERGENCE OF THE INTERNET. ANTI
AND HOW THAT'S AFFECTING.
HE COMMERCE AND AND REGULAR
COMMERCE THROUGHOUT OUR STATE
AND TRYING TO FIND OUT. IF THIS
IS NOT A NEW ISSUE WAS RAISED BY
THE AUDITOR.
AND.
WHO HAS CLEARLY IDENTIFIED THE?
THE.
THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT
THAT THAT HE CONVERSES HAVING IN
OUR STATE.
AND I'VE I'VE BEEN OPEN TO
WORKING WITH THE EVERYONE THAT
HAS AN OPINION ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
AND.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY ENGAGE WITH
THE LEAGUE AND.
AND AND THAT'S WHY I'VE
COMMITTED IN THE PREVIOUS
HEARING AND AND THIS ONE AS WELL
THAT. VERY SENSITIVE THE IMPACTS
WILL HAVE ON EXISTING
COMMUNITIES THERE FOR REACH
THESE AGREEMENTS. AND I'M VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF TRYING TO FIND
WAYS TO MITIGATE. THE IMPACT AND
I EVEN THOSE THAT ARE IMPACTED
HAVEN'T COME UP WITH ANY
PARTICULAR IDEAS YET THAT IT BE
THEM PUT THEM IN THE MIX. NOT
LIKE THE CITY OF ONTARIO'S COME
IN AND SAID HERE'S OUR PLAN FOR
HOW WE CAN MITIGATE IT. NOT NO
ONE HAS COME FORWARD WITH THAT
THAT TYPE OF SPECIFIC MITIGATION
PLAN BUT I'M OPEN TO. ALL OF
THEM AND IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE
BIT OF TIME TO DO THAT I THINK
THAT'S WHAT THE LEAGUE
SYNDICATED WITH THEIR TASK
FORCE.
AND SO TIGHT THAT I'D BE VERY
HAPPY TO BRING THE BILL BACK TO
YOUR COMMITTEE WHEN THOSE
MITIGATION ELEMENTS. HAVE BEEN
WORKED OUT I THINK IT WILL TAKE
US A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO DO
THAT BUT I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO
HAVE THE BILL BE BROUGHT BACK.
IF IT WERE TO GET THROUGH THE
SENATE FLOOR AND IF IT WERE TO
BE. AMENDED IN THE ASSEMBLY OF
COURSE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME
BACK AND REVIEW THOSE MITIGATION
SEE IF THIS COMMITTEE FINDS SOME
SATISFACTORY. ONE SUGGESTION
THAT MIGHT MOVE ME BEFORE THE
FLOOR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS
SOMETHING YOU WORK ON AN
APPROPRIATIONS OBVIOUSLY IT'S
TOO LATE TODAY TO WORK ON
AUTHORS MEN OR COMMITTEES AND
AND.
.
BUT
SOME STATEMENT OF THAT INTENTION
RIGHT TO TO TO EVEN IF YOU CAN'T
I MEAN IT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS
SO FAR THAT YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING
IN TERMS OF. I THINK ONE YEAH
WELL I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS IS
TO DEAL WITH IT IS TERMS
IMPLEMENTATION DATE.
I THINK THAT. WHEN WE DECIDE TO
HAVE IT BE IMPLEMENTED THERE
COULD BE COULD BE TWENTY TWENTY
ONE TWENTY TWO. THAT WE CAN FIND
WAYS IN WHICH TO TRY TO MITIGATE
THE THE EVENTUAL IMPACT THAT
WOULD HAVE ON COMMUNITIES.
BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHILE
THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE TALKING
ABOUT AT SOME LEVELS ARE VERY
LARGE AND CERTAINLY A BILLION
DOLLARS THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO
THESE COMPANIES THAT HAVE MADE
THESE DEALS NOT GO IN OUR CITIES
IS A LARGE AMOUNT.
YOU ALSO HAVE TO PUT IN THE
CONTEXT OF FIVE. OF EVERYONE'S
BUDGET AND DIE NEW BUT IT'S
GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT
THAN ONTARIO. IN ONTARIO BY MY
ESTIMATION SO WOULD HAVE AN
IMPACT OF ONE PERCENT. ON THE
BUDGET OF ONTARIO.
ONE PERCENT NOW THAT'S STILL AN
IMPACT AND I WANT TO FIND WAYS
IN WHICH TO MITIGATE THAT IMPACT
THEM VERY OPEN TO IDEAS IN WHICH
TO DO THAT.
THERE ARE AGREEMENTS IN NOT IN
THE CITY OF FRESNO THAT I
MENTIONED THAT WERE A HUNDRED
PERCENT REBATES TO THE
COMPANY'S.
THE TAXPAYERS THE CITIZENS GOT
NOTHING.
BUT I WANNA I WANNA STILL
MITIGATE THAT IF WE CAN'T AND SO
I'M VERY OPEN TO IDEAS I I
MENTIONED THAT THE THE TIME
TIMELINESS OF THE OF
IMPLEMENTATION IS ONE ELEMENT.
OF THERE'S BEEN SOME SUGGESTIONS
ABOUT IMPACT FEES. ON THE
DISTRIBUTION CENTERS AND I'M%
OPEN TO THAT AS WELL NOT EXACTLY
SURE HOW YOU CALCULATE THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
WITH THAT NUMBERS.
I I FIND IN THIS BUSINESS AND
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN
EXPERIENCES BUT WHEN YOU'RE
DEALING WITH NUMBERS THERE'S ALL
THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DO
DIVISION AND MULTIPLICATION AND
ADDITION AND SUBTRACTION. AND SO
I THINK IT PROVIDES A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO FIND
THAT SWEET SPOT THAT MIDDLE
GROUND OF TRYING TO MITIGATE FOR
FINANCIAL IMPACTS. AND I'M VERY
OPEN TO ALL THOSE IDEAS MISTER
CHAIR DID YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM
ONTARIO.
THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU SURE YOU KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE STANDING
THERE YES YOU'RE A LATE WITNESS
IN OPPOSITION NO HE HE WAS SO HE
JUST GOT TO WEIGH IN AND SAY HE
WAS OPPOSED BUT I THOUGHT SINCE
ENTER BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL
TIMES MAYBE MY WANT. TO HEAR
FROM THEM IF NOT THAT'S FINE
JUST WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
JOE GIVE YOU A THIRTY SECOND.
CLARIFICATION THROUGH THE CHAIR
YES SIR THANK YOU THINK MISTER
CHAIR JUST AS SOME OF THE POINTS
YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMITTEE.
THERE IS NOT A SOLUTION FOR
COMING. IN TWO MONTHS THREE
MONTHS I'VE I BELIEVE THIS
PROCESS IS IN A DRY OUT LONGER
THAN THAT AND THE PROBLEM IS IS
THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX
ISSUE DOESN'T EXIST IN
ISOLATION.
IT TOUCHES ON A NUMBER OF OTHER
TAX ISSUES AS MISTER HERTZBERG
IS MENTIONED IT IN COMMITTEE
PREVIOUSLY.
WE DID IT EX SUFFICIENT TIME TO
TO ANALYZE THE ISSUE AND TO GET
TO THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS OF GAME
TO A SOLUTION SO THAT WOULD BE
THE POINT I'D MAKE BECAUSE OUR
OKAY THANK YOU.
DAVID HAS DEFENSIVE ONTARIO
INTERIOR EXACTLY THAT THANK YOU
THANK YOU SENATOR. THANK YOU
STAND YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER
FEEDBACK FOR HERE CLEARLY OF THE
THING YOU MENTIONED A RUNNING
THE NUMBERS WHICH WE THINK IS
VERY IMPORTANT. AS PART OF A
SORT OF AN ADJUNCT TO THE GROUP
WE OTHERS TO KIND OF PRINCIPAL
COMPANIES TO DO A LOT OF
ANALYSIS TAX ANALYSIS FOR CITIES
AND WE'VE GOT BOTH OF THEM BOTH
OF THOSE COMPANIES AS PART OF
THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW AT THE END
OF THE DAY. IT WHATEVER WE COME
UP WITH ONE OF OUR MEMBERS BE
ABLE TO RUN THE NUMBERS TO MAKE
SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS
ARE SO GREAT IS THAT THAT'S HDL
AND UNIQUE SERVER YES BUILT THE
THE MOST.
THE BEST ESTIMATES I'VE SEEN IS
THAT.
ABOUT DOES SOMEWHERE SOUTH OF
TEN PERCENT WOULD BE IMPACTED OF
THE FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO
CITIES IN THE STATE RIGHT NOW IS
THAT IS THAT IF WE DON'T KNOW
THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF.
THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE
ARE EVEN BETWEEN THE TWO
COMPANIES IN TERMS OF IMPACTS OF
GOT THE I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO
GET TO IS IF WE CAN GET TO US
SOME PROPOSAL THAT REPRESENTS AS
I CALLED IT A BRIDGE.
AND THEN.
ENDED LET OUR MEMBERS ARE EVERY
CITY MANAGER IN THE STATE'S
GOING TO WANT TO KNOW HOW IT
IMPACTS THEIR CITY YOU KNOW SO I
I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR AS THE
LEAGUE'S REPRESENTATIVE. THAT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO US THAT THAT
MEMBERS KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS
TO THEIR COMMUNITY AS THEY MAKE
DECISIONS GOING FORWARD SO.
THAT'S HOWTHAT'S HOW WE'VE
CONSTRUCTED THIS GROUP WE WANTED
IT TO FOR OUT OF OUR MEMBERS TO
HAVE A HAVE A REAL UNDERSTANDING
OF WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE IN. AND
TRY TO. CONSTRUCT A A.
ACCEPTABLE PROPOSAL I'LL JUST
ASK YOU AS YOU DEVELOP THAT AS
EXPEDITIOUSLY AS HUMANLY
POSSIBLE THAT COME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE WITH THAT FEEDBACK.
EGGS BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S
WHAT'S HANGING ME UP RIGHT NOW
SO SINGER OKAY ALL RIGHT WELL
THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.
.
YOU WANT ONE LAST COMMENT. ON
YOUR GUIDE WRAP IT ALL YES SO I
I I THINK YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE
HERE AND. A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW.
.
YOU KNOW FIVE.
KELLY WAS FIRED UP ABOUT THIS
AND AND.
PEOPLE AND. YOU KNOW SO I GUESS
THE THE THE IT'S VERY CLEAR I
THINK TO ME AND AND I HAVE. TO
AND I I I I WOULD ONLY THINK TO
YOU AFTER HAVING HEARD ALL THIS
THAT.
THAT IF YOU ARE IN BEFORE THIS
YOU GOT IT.
STRIKE SOME SORT OF DEAL AND
THAT THE COMMITTEE'S OBVIOUSLY
WATCHING CLOSELY IN.
I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BRING IT
BACK AND AND.
TOUGH.
YEAH THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S
THE REALITY FIND YOURSELF AND
AND AND.
.
IS THAT WITHOUT EMOTION OR NO IT
WAS MOVED BY A CENTER ANDERSON
OKAY BUT I I WANNA FINAL TIME
WITH A COMMENT YEAH WHATEVER I'M
MAKING THE COMMENT TO MAKE ME
TO.
TO SERVE UNDERSCORE YOUR POINT
ABOUT.
YOU KNOW.
ABOUT.
THE THE DESIRE TO ADD TO IT TO
MONITOR THIS CLOSE NO I
APPRECIATE THAT AND CIRCULATION
YOUR CLOTHES MAYBE YOU CAN JUST.
PUT THE FINAL.
.
FINALLY TAKE ELATION OF YOUR
COMMITMENT.
OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BEFORE
THE FLOOR PERHAPS AND THEN AFTER
I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO TAKE A
LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE AT AT THE
BALLOON.
IF YOU WILL BUY IT LEAST.
YOUR INTENTIONS OF MADE BEEN
MADE CLEAR VERBALLY BUT PERHAPS
IN THE BILL ITSELF THERE'S SOME
WAY DIRECTIONALLY TO TWO POINT
TOWARDS THAT WITHOUT ACTUALLY
GETTING INTO A NUMERICAL FORMULA
BUT.
I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU THE
AUTHOR AT THIS POINT.
YES SENATOR ANDERSON ARE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONFER WITH THE
SENATOR. AND WHAT HE'D LIKE MY
MOTION TO BE.
.
I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE
AUTHOR NOW AND MAKE SURE THAT.
HE'S COMFORTABLE SO YOU WANT ME
TO KEEP EMOTIONAL WEIGHT IS TWO
ARMY TO TAKE A MOTION. WITH SOME
SORT OF AMENDMENT DO YOU WANT ME
TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
AT.
YEAH PLEASE THROUGH THE CHECK TO
THE CHAIR WILL LOOK AT.
I WANT TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT
WHAT'S POSSIBLE HERE AND.
I I EVEN THE LEAGUE IS NO ONE
HAS COME FORWARD WITH ANY KIND
OF SUGGESTED CHANGE AT THIS
MOMENT IN TIME EXCEPT TO KILL
THE BILL BECAUSE SOMEHOW IT.
TAPPED FOR BECAUSE ACTUALLY
SINGLE I MEAN IT'S ON YOU AT
THIS POINT TO COME UP WITH WHAT
THE SOLUTION IS I MEAN IT'S NOT
ON A GREAT SHOW.
I CAN FINISH PLEASE US SO I I
DON'T SAY I I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL FORWARD OKAY AND I'D LIKE
TO BE ABLE TO.
WORK WITH ALL PARTIES TO TRY TO
FIND AN ACCOMMODATION. ODD THAT
IT PROVIDES THE LEVEL OF
MEDICATION THAT CAN FIND THE
SWEET SPOT NOT EASY TO DO BUT. I
AM COMMITTED TO TRYING TO FIND
IT IS IT COULD HAPPEN BEFORE IT
APPEARS ON THE SENATE FLOOR
MISTER CHAIRMAN I DON'T NOW. I
DON'T KNOW I THINK WE HAVE A LOT
OF WELL INTENTIONED PEOPLE
TRYING TO DO THEIR BEST YEAR. I
DO KNOW THAT IF WE'RE NOT ABLE
TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. OUT WITHIN
THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS DATA AND
MAYBE THIS IS WHAT SOME WOULD
LIKE IT MEANS THAT IF. THE IF
THE EARLIEST YOU COULD EVER
APPEAR ON THE BALLOT IS IN
TWENTY TWENTY.
AT WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE
THAT GLAD OCCUR WELL AFTER THAT.
SO IF THE INTENTION IS TO KEEP
THE CURRENT SYSTEM IN PLACE.
FAIR OR UNFAIR AS IT MAY BE THAN
NOT I CAN UNDERSTAND THERE ARE
THE REASONS TO NOT. HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION CONTINUE AND HOPE
TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT OVER THE
COMING MONTHS IT'S NOT AN EASY
ISSUE I THINK IF YOU TALK TO
SENATOR HERTZBERG ON THE WHOLE
TAX CUT ISSUE IT'S A DIFFICULT
ONE. BECAUSE THAT WHEN YOU'RE
CHANGING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE
THERE ARE WINNERS AND LOSERS.
AND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A
LOT OF STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT
THAT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL FORWARD. AND I'D LIKE TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL
PARTIES TO TRY TO FIND THAT
SWEET SPOT I DON'T THINK IT CAN
HAPPEN BEFORE PROBES I'M NOT
SURE IT CAN HAPPEN BEFORE THE
SENATE FLOOR BUT IT'S CERTAINLY
MY DESIRE TO. CHRIS WHO WOULDN'T
WANT TO FIND THAT CONSTRUCTIVE
CENTER.
OKAY SO CENTER EDITION YOU
COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR MOTION
REMAINING.
SO THE MOTION IS.
DO PASS AND REFER TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ONE
CLOSE AT THANK YOU FOR THE
CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL TODAY
AND.
.
THESE ARE DIFFICULT ISSUES
SPECIALLY WHEN WHEN FOLKS HAVE
TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF A.
I WOULD ARGUE A LOOPHOLE IN OUR
LAW TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO THAT
TO. THAT FOUND SOME MUTUAL
INTEREST IN CERTAIN SPACES BUT I
THINK FOR THE OVERALL ECONOMIC
HEALTH OF OUR. OUR COMMUNITIES
IS NOT REALLY THE RIGHT PATH FOR
US I THINK THIS BILL. STRIVES TO
TRY TO.
ADVANCE IT'S.
AND I I HOPE THAT WE CAN
IMPROVE IT AS IT GOES FORWARD.
AND THAT WOULD BE MY COMMITMENT
TO YOU ALL I APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
MOTION IS TO PASS AN RE REFERRED
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL STERN.
ANDERSON. ANDERSON HIGH ALLEN.
ALLEN I HEARD SPURRED.
LABOR. LABOR NOW.
THAT MEASURES TO ONE WE WILL
LEAVE IT ON CALL FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS THANK YOU SENATOR
GLACIER.
.
SENATOR ALLEN YOU ARE THE LAST
MAN STANDING.
SCA TWENTY. NSCA NINE EIGHTEEN.
I'M SORRY AS HE ATE EIGHTEEN AS
A TWENTY TWO
.
WELCOME VISITOR MEMBERS I'M HERE
TO PRESENT A C. EIGHTEEN FIRST
WHICH IS.
.
AND AT ATTEMPTS TO AMEND THE
CONSEQUENCES SHOULD TO RAISE THE
THRESHOLD FOR. STATE OFFICIALS
TO BE RECALLED FROM A MAJORITY
VOTE TO A FIFTY FIVE PERCENT
VOTE.
TWENTY ONE NINETEEN STATES THAT
PERMIT THE RECALL OF STATE
OFFICIALS THE OTHER STATES HAVE
NO SUCH MECHANISM AT ALL.
MOST STATES IN THE COUNTRY RELY
ON IMPEACHMENT FOR REMOVAL OF
OFFICE OR OF COURSE THE
TRADITIONAL WAY WHICH IS MORE.
IN OUR STATE HAS BEEN USED TO
REMOVE CORRUPT OR INCOMPETENT
OFFICIALS. OF THE.
WHO IS IN THE CASE INDICTED FOR
EMBEZZLEMENT OF FUNDS?
THE FRAMERS THE RECALL WANTED TO
BE A TOOL THAT WAS USED UNDER
EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES AND
THAT. SENTIMENT AMONG THOUGHTFUL
COMMENTATORS CONTINUES TO THIS
DAY. A RECENT LOS ANGELES TIMES
ARTICLE DESCRIBED RECALL
ELECTIONS IS QUOTE AN EXTREME AN
UNUSUAL FORM OF POLITICAL
DECAPITATION.
AND MORE RECENTLY RECALL
CAMPAIGNS HAVE BEEN ORGANIZED
AROUND ONE ISSUE ONE VOTE CAN
YOU CAN LEAD TO ABUSES BY A WELL
FINANCED SPECIAL INTEREST
GROUPS.
AND WANT TO RECALL QUALIFIES FOR
THE BALLOT THE ELECTION FOR
SUCCESSORS AND HELD
SIMULTANEOUSLY. ON THE RECALL
BALLOT TO RECALL SUCCESSFUL THE
REPLACEMENT NEEDS JUST A
PLURALITY OF VOTES SO YOU CAN
HAVE SOMEONE WHO ACTIVELY WINDS
FORTY EIGHT FORTY NINE PERCENT
OF THE VOTE. AND YET SOME JOKER
WITH TWENTY NINE WITH TWENTY
PERCENT OF THE VOTE AND THE BEDS
OF REPLACING YOU. ARE AT THAT
ELECTION THE EXACT SAME ELECTION
DAY.
BECAUSE OF THIS CRAZY SYSTEM
THAT WE HAVE.
I'M.
SO YOU KNOW RECALLS ARE ARE
ALMOST ALWAYS BY THE WAY HELD AS
A STANDALONE SPECIAL ACTION
WHICH HISTORICALLY HAVE VERY.
LOW TURNOUT SO WHEN YOU HAVE
JUST GIVEN EXAMPLE ANGIE GOMEZ
WAS VOTED INTO OFFICE DURING THE
REGULAR ACTION CYCLE AND TWENTY
SIXTEEN.
HE WAS ELECTED WITH A HUNDRED
TEN THOUSAND VOTES FOR THE STATE
ASSEMBLY SEAT HIS REPLACEMENT
WHEN A CAREER WHO WANTED A
SPECIAL ELECTION. FOR THE SAME
SEAT SO HE WON WITH A HUNDRED
TEN THOUSAND VOTES TWENTY ONE
WITH ELEVEN THOUSAND VOTES.
EXACT SAME SEAT. A YEAR LATER AS
THOUGH IT JUST GOES TO SHOW AND.
THE VERY DIFFERENT ELECTORATE
INVOLVED SO THE IDEA IS A
REGULAR ELECTION CYCLES ENSURE
THE VOTERS IN THE TRUE MAJORITY
OF VOTERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO VOTE OUT THE OFFICIALS THEY
DEEM UNWORTHY BASED ON A VARIETY
OF FACTORS.
IN CONTRAST I RECALL CAMPAIGNS
ARE OFTEN GALVANIZED BY ONE
ISSUE OR ONE VOTE SO. VINCENT
RECALL ELECTIONS CIRCUMVENT THE
REGULAR ELECTION PROCESS THERE
REALLY OUGHT TO BE A SLIGHTLY
HIGHER BAR.
THEN MAJORITY TO REMOVE ELECTED
OFFICIAL REMEMBER WE'VE GOT.
MECHANISMS IN PLACE FOR
MALFEASANCE WE'VE GOT THE
IMPEACHMENT PROCESS AS WE SAW
DURING THE RECENT ME TO
SITUATION. A NUMBER OF MEMBERS.
WERE. EFFECTIVELY FORCED TO
RESIGN TODAY THERE ARE THERE ARE
LOTS OF ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES
THAT WE HAVE. AT OUR DISPOSAL
BOTH SOFT AND HARD.
MY IDEA IS THAT BY SLIGHTLY
RAISING THE THRESHOLD FOR RECALL
FROM MAJORITY. TO FIFTY FIVE
PERCENT VOTE SCA EIGHTEEN
ANSWERS THE VOTERS WHO HAVE
REACHED A CONSENSUS.
A REAL CONSENSUS BEFORE ELECTED
OFFICIAL WHO IS DULY ELECTED IN
A HIGH TURNOUT REGULAR ACTION
FAIR AND SQUARE. IS REMOVED FROM
OFFICE.
AND WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR A VOTE.
THANK YOU ANY ANYONE'S PORT.
ANYONE OPPOSITION.
PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU'RE IN
OPPOSITION.
CAN STATE YOUR NAME WHERE YOU'RE
FROM.
WELCOME.
HI MY NAME IS PART OF OUR FROM
THE FILM RIGHTS PARTY AND.
CURRENTLY WE'RE INVOLVED IN AND
RECALLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN.
I'M NOT PACIFIC TOWARDS.
MEMBERS OF THE OF THE
LEGISLATURE BUT IN THE COURTS.
I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS HOW THAT'S
GONNA AFFECT. OVER TRYING TO
RECALL DYING FROM JUDGES AND
STUFF LIKE THAT IF IT HAS ANY
IMPACT OR IS THAT JUST. THE
SUPREME COURT HAS.
THERE'S A LOT OF INJUSTICE GOING
ON AND AND SOME OF CONCERN ABOUT
THAT.
BESIDES I GOT A POST SINCE I'M
NOT REALLY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING
ON. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
SHOULD BE AWARE THAT ALL. THAT'S
ALL THANK YOU.
SO YEAH AN. AUTHOR MAY WANT TO
CLARIFY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
IT DOESN'T AFFECT SUPERIOR COURT
JUDGES BUT IT WOULD AFFECT
APPELLATE COURT AND. JUDGE ON
THE SUPREME COURT YES THOUGH
THOUGH I WILL SAY.
MEMBER THAT SUPREME COURT
JUDGES DO YOU HAVE TO COME UP
FOR A YES NO VOTE.
AMID ALL OUR BOTH OUR HEALTH AND
OUR SUPREME COURT JUDGES HAVE TO
CONFER YES NO VOTE ON A ON A
REGULAR BASIS.
BUT IF WE WERE WE WE WANTED TO
TAKE THE ISSUE OUT OF ORDER AND
CREATE A SPECIAL RECALL. WE
WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S A HIGHER THRESHOLD BY
THE WAY LET ME POINT OUT. THAT
ON THE FIFTY FIVE PERCENT STILL
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN YOU KNOW
THAT STILL WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TO
PROTECT GRAY DAVIS RIGHT I MEAN
GRAY DAVIS HAD OVER FIFTY FIVE
PERCENT BUT THE RECALL OF. SO IF
PEOPLE REALLY FEEL STRONGLY
ABOUT RECALLING THE BIG DID THAT
IS ACTUALLY PRESERVED HERE. THE
QUESTION IS IF WE'RE GOING TO
CIRCUMVENT THE REGULAR ELECTORAL
PROCESS THERE OUGHT TO BE A
HIGHER BAR THAN A SIMPLE
MAJORITY VOTE.
VERY GOOD.
SEE NO THERE'S AN OPPOSITION
MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS.
THEY'RE INNOCENT.
IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO
NINETEEN THIRTEEN. AND MOVE
FORWARD.
WITH ANY LUCK AT ALL THE
SENATORS HAVE BEEN RECALLED ALL
THESE FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN
RECALLED OR ATTEMPTED TO BE
RECALLED. BEFORE FOR SPLIT.
RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
ARE.
WE HAVE TERM LIMITS IN THE
ARGUMENT FOR TERM LIMITS WAS THE
POWER OF INCUMBENCY.
WAS SO GREAT THAT WE'RE GONNA
PUT A LIMIT ON HOW LONG YOU CAN
SERVE.
SO THE NOTION THAT WE CAN MAKE
IT HARDER TO RECALL PEOPLE WHO
HAVE THE POWER OF INCUMBENCY.
BEHIND THEM.
THERE'S AN ACT.
KINDA GO AGAINST TERM LIMITS I
MEAN.
HER WILLIE BROWN.
WOULD STILL BE IN OFFICE TODAY
FOR WASN'T FOR TERM LIMITS.
AND YET IF YOU WERE TO RECALL
HIM HEAVY AWFULLY IMPOSSIBLE NOW
YOU MAKING IT. EVEN MORE
DIFFICULT MAKING THAT. THAT BAR
EVEN HIGHER.
SO WE HAVE WITH RESPECT SENATOR
WE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT WE DO HAVE
WE DO HAVE TERM LIMITS SO
THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN IS A
LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME ANY OF US
CAN SERVE. IN THE LEGISLATURE
ART SO YOU KNOW WE'RE REALLY IN
MANY CASES SENATORS WE ONLY HAVE
THREE. OR THREE ELECTIONS OR WE
CAN RUN AND AND WIN BUT IF WE
WANT RUN AND WHEN. ARE YOU KNOW
BUT IN IN A IN A HIGH TURNOUT
ELECTION WHERE PEOPLE GET TO
PARTICIPATE WHERE THERE'S A
ROBUST DEBATE WHERE ANYBODY CAN
RUN AGAINST ANY OF US. IF WE'RE
GOING TO THEN SUDDENLY
CIRCUMVENT THAT PROCESS.
TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER THERE OUGHT
TO BE SOME HIGHER BAR.
SO IF I USE THAT LINE THROUGH
THE CHAIR. IF I USE THAT LOGIC
WE SHOULD ONLY HAVE PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTIONS BECAUSE THEY TURN ON
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS THIS EPIC
COMPARED TO A GUBERNATORIAL
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING
SUGGESTED IS OF COURSE IT IS
BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING. THAT.
.
THAT HAVING AN ELECTION THAT
ISN'T ON A GUBERNATORIAL OR
PRESIDENTIAL DOESN'T HAVE THE
SAME TURN OUT. SO WE HAVE TO
HAVE A HIGHER THRESHOLD. BUT.
IF IT'S ALL ABOUT THE HIGHEST
THRESHOLD.
THEN WE ALL KNOW PRESIDENTIAL
TURNOUT WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN
GUBERNATORIAL RACES.
LOOK.
THERE'S A POWER OF INCUMBENCY.
AND I KNOW THAT SOME SENATORS
BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT
TO BE HERE BUT WE SERVE.
I IF THE WILL OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS.
AND WE JUST HEARD ONE OF OUR
COLLEAGUES ON THAT ON HERE
FIGHTING VERY HARD FOR HER
DISTRICT.
AND WE ALL SHOULD BE FIGHTING
FOR DISTRICT BUT IF WE LOSE OUR
PATH AND WE AREN'T FIGHTING FOR
OUR CONSTITUENTS THE WAY WE
SHOULD BE FIGHTING FOR
CONSTITUENTS. AND THEY WANT TO
TAKE A CHANGING COURSE THEY
SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO CHANGING
COURSE. YEAH AND YOU KNOW WE'VE
GONE GOING BACK TO NINETEEN
THIRTEEN IT'S AN ABSOLUTE SPLIT.
THE AIR AND.
.
I I WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THE
BALANCE OF POWER. YOUR FOUR TO
FOUR. ON WHETHER PEOPLE RECALLED
OR NOT SO IT'S NOT LIKE NO ONE'S
EVER BEAT A RECALL BEFORE PEOPLE
HAPPY ME CALLS. ARE THE TWO
THOUSAND SEVEN SENATOR JEFF
DENHAM WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF
RECALLED HE DEFENDED HIMSELF
AGAINST THE RECALL.
SO IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE CAN'T DO
IT. IT'S I THINK THERE'S
PROBABLY A BETTER MEASURE IF WE
WERE TO INVESTIGATE ALL THESE.
THE THREE CALLS OCCURRED.
WHEN THE DISTRICT WAS BEHIND THE
RECALL AND IT WASN'T A POWER
FROM OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT TRYING
TO FORCE THE RECALL. HERE AND I
WILL BUILD SUPPORT IT TODAY
BECAUSE I THINK IT TAKES IS IN
THE WRONG DIRECTION I BELIEVE
THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE
ACCOUNTABLE. TO THE PEOPLE WE
REPRESENT NOT LESSER ACCOUNTABLE
UNDER LEGISLATORS SPOT FOR THE
CLOTHES IF YOU DON'T MIND BY
IRAQ AS A MEMBER OF THE
COMMITTEE IS A FRIEND OF THE
VICE CHAIR CAN I ASK YOU CAN ASK
HIM A QUESTION. THROUGH TH
CHAIR THE CHAIR SURE SO MIST
MISTER MISTER DID. WHAT IS THE
FAIRNESS ASSOCIATE WITH THE
CURRENT SYSTEM WHERE SOMEONE CAN
GET FORTY NINE PERCENT OF THE
VOTE ON THE EXACT SAME ELECTION
DAY? AND BE REPLACED BY SOMEONE
WHO GETS FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THE
VOTE BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO BE
FIRST OUT OF A PLURALITY OF
CANDIDATES.
WELL ARE THIS YEAR.
ABSOLUTELY THROUGH THE CHAIR I
NEVER THINK OF DOING IT ANY
OTHER WAY THAT.
SO ARE YOU IF IF YOU WERE TO
PASS AWAY IN OFFICE IT'S THE
SAME THING. YOU KNOW READ BUT
I'D BE DEAD AT ONE POINT.
WELL YOU WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU
GOT RECALLED YOU'RE PRETTY DO A
TWO.
I BELIEVE THAT.
YOU FIND YOURSELF IN THE MIDDLE
OF A RECALL BECAUSE YOU LOST
YOUR WAY MOST MEMBERS DO NOT GET
RECALLED WHEN WE GO BACK SINCE
TWENTY THIRTEEN THIS TO SEE ONE
TWO. EIGHT AM AS FOR FOR SUPPORT
SO IT'S ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE. EIGHT
PEOPLE. ARE IN ALL THEIR TIME
SAW THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. IN THE
LAST HUNDRED YEARS MANY PEOPLE.
SO WHY ARE WE. FOCUSED ON MAKING
IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO
RECALL SOMEBODY.
WHEN WHEN THEY HAVE THE POWER OF
INCUMBENCY I LOOK I KNOW YOU YOU
ARE A THOUGHTFUL PERSON.
WHO'S ALWAYS TRYING TO PERFECT
EVERYTHING I THINK SOME OF THE
STAFF ISN'T TO PERFECTION. AND I
RATHER SIDE.
WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IF IT MEANS
THAT I LOSE MY HEAD. THEN SO BE
IT BUT. I I STARTED AS A
CONSTITUENT OF SOMEBODY ELSE NOW
RETURN TO A CONSTITUENT OF
SOMEBODY ELSE AND I WOULD WANT
THAT AUTHORITY OVER THAT PERSON.
ALTERNATE THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK
TO ME BEFORE THEY VOTE SO THAT
THEY KNOW WHO THEY REPRESENT. SO
WILL NOT TREAT THAT AS A MOTION
WE WILL MOVE TO SENATOR LATER.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR SO I JUST
WANT TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING THE
VICE CHAIR SAID THAT IN THE LAST
EIGHT FOLKS HAVE BEEN RECALLED.
THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING TO
DESERVE IT SO YOU KNOW YOU'RE
SAYING THAT THE VOTERS ARE
RECALLING THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE
DONE SOMETHING O JUSTIFY THAT
ACTION IS THAT CORRECT. WHAT I
DID REALIZE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A
HE SAID SHE SAID ON THE NO I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M
CORRECT IN WHAT YOU SAID?
THROUGH THE CHAIR IF IF YOU'D
LIKE TO RESPOND.
AS EARLY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TOO
FEW DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S
THE QUESTION AGAIN. YOU SAID
THAT THE FOUR FOUR SPLIT OF
FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN RECALLED
OVER THE LAST I DON'T REMEMBER
HOW MANY YEARS AND YEARS AND AND
THAT THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN
RECALLED HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO
DESERVE IT. SO THAT DOESN'T
REALLY JUSTIFY NEEDING TO CHANGE
THIS.
I SAID I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED
IF WE RESEARCHED IT AND. IT WAS
A MOVEMENT WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT
IT WASN'T FROM OUTSIDE PRESSURES
I THINK THE PEOPLE OFFENDED OFF
WERE BECAUSE IN THE CASE OF
SENATOR DENIM.
THAT PRO TEM
START OF THE END INITIATED THE
RECALL AGAINST HIM. IN A WAS
UNSUCCESSFUL I DON'T THINK THAT
PRECIOUS FOR MOST OF THE
DISTRICT ARE SUCCESSFUL.
I THINK THE REALLY GOOD ABOUT
FORCING CONSTITUENTS TO RALLY
FOR THE FOR SOMEBODY THAT MAYBE
PRESSING EVEN LIKE. THIS BUT
THAT WAS JUST ME.
EDITORIALIZING.
NO I WAS SAYING I WOULD BE
SURPRISED SPECULATING PERHAPS
SPECULATED THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR THE ONLY POINT THAT I WANT
TO MAKE IS I THINK THAT THIS
BILL IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I
THINK WE MIGHT BE SEEING A
CHANGE. COMING DOWN THE PIKE WE
HAVE A COLLEAGUE THIS UNDER
RECALL WHO HASN'T DONE ANYTHING
WRONG OFFICE WHO HASN'T VIOLATED
ANY LAWS ANYTHING AT THE CALL.
AND THEY'RE BEING RECALLED SO I
THINK THAT.
IN THE PAST WE MAY LOOK AT WHAT.
THE THE VICE CHAIR BROUGHT TO US
AND SEE THAT ONE PATTERN BUT AS
WE LOOK ON THE PRODUCT POLITICAL
HORIZON I THINK WE MIGHT SEE NEW
THINGS EMERGING SO WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE. THAT GOOD PEOPLE ARE
NOT TAKING OUT OF OFFICE OVER
POLITICAL WILL OF ANOTHER PARTY
WITH THAT OF THE BILL THANK YOU
IT'S A MOTION FROM CENTER LABOR
I'LL JUST SAY BRIEFLY BEFORE
YOUR CLOTHES.
I I WOULD CONCUR WITH.
THE.
CENTER FROM ONTARIO'S REMARKS
AND THE.
YOU KNOW THAT THE THRESHOLD WE
PUT ON VOTERS WHICH I KNOW WE'RE
GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR
SUBSEQUENT MEASURE HERE THE
THRESHOLDS WE IMPOSE ON VOTERS
TO MAKE DECISIONS WHETHER TO TAX
THEMSELVES. ARE AT SIXTY SIX
POINT SIX SIX SIX PERCENT RIGHT
NOW AND YET THE THRESHOLD WE'RE
PUTTING ON VOTERS. TO CHANGE THE
WILL OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE I
THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT
YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR HERE IN OUR
DEMOCRACY IS HOW DO YOU TRULY.
REFLECT THE WILL OF YOUR%
DISTRICT AS ACCURATELY AS
POSSIBLE AND. I THINK WHY THIS
TO ME IS A SMART MEMORY MET
REMEDY IS.
IT'S A SERIOUS DECISION TO
CHANGE. A PAST ELECTION. AND END
THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR POLITICAL
MANIPULATION ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE AISLE ARE SIGNIFICANT IN
THIS LAW WOULD IF IF IF THIS
BECAME LAW WOULD BIND DEMOCRATS
AS WELL AS REPUBLICANS FROM
INITIATING. A NET AND EFFORT
LIKE THAT AGAINST A NOW
CONGRESSMAN DENIM OR AGAIN
SENATOR NEWMAN I I THINK IT CUTS
BOTH DIRECTIONS. WHAT I LIKE
ABOUT THE MEASURE IS? THIS IS A
MORE SERIOUS ACTION THIS IS A
MORE SERIOUS VOTE THAN JUST SOME
OTHER VOTE.
THE FACT THAT EVEN STILL WOULD
BE A LOWER THRESHOLD THAN MOST
TAXATION VOTES TO ME. TAXATION
AND DEMOCRACY THOSE ARE TWO
EQUALLY SERIOUS MATTER SO WITH
THAT WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A
LABOR DID YOU WANT TO I HAVE ONE
LAST QUICK QUESTION ROAD IN
THERE RIGHT MR VICE CHAIR SONGS
ARE JUST FOR THE RECORD WOULD
THIS IMPACT.
OUR COLLEAGUES RECALL.
I DID I DID I WHEN WE TALKED
ABOUT THE COLLEGE I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE CLEAR THAT SO.
ANYBODY WATCHING THIS REALIZES
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFTER
PERSPECTIVES. ENLISTED JOBS IN
ONE MEASURE ABOUT AN URGENCY AND
WAS ON A TWO THIRDS VOTE AND
BECAME LAW IMMEDIATELY.
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS WOULD
HAVE BUT IF YOU IF IT WEREN'T
VOTED ON ON THAT YOU KNOW THIS
IS GOING TO MISS THE JUNE BALLOT
THIS IS A THERE'S A PRO
SUSPECTED MAJOR SO.
IN I JUST FINISH BY SAYING THAT
PERHAPS IF THERE WERE MORE
REPUBLICANS SERVING IN THE
SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY. THERE
BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
RECALL.
AND THAT WE KNOW HOW TO REMEDY
THAT RIGHT WE NEED TO GET MORE
COLLECTED.
AND THAT IS WE'LL LEAVE THAT
MEANS THAT YOUR CLOTHES CENTER
AROUND HER FUTURE THAT IS YOUR
CLOTHES WHO HAS.
ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
SENATOR LLEVA.
.
THE MOTION IS I'M SORRY THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AND REFER TO
SET APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
SENATOR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
STERN I. TURNED I UNDERSTAND IT
ANDERSON NO ALLEN. ALLEN I HEARD
FOR. LABOR LABOR I OKAY THAT'S
TWO ONE WILL LEAVE A MEASURE ON
CALL. I'M SURE THREE ONE LEAVE
THEM AS YOUR OWN CALL AND CENTER
ON DID YOU WANT TO.
BRING THE FINAL BILL FOR TODAY
IS SEE A TWENTY TWO YES PLEASE
OKAY IS PRETTY WELL JUST. JUST
CALL ME MISTER FIFTY FIVE
PERCENT TODAY AND I I I I BUT
CERTAINLY AFTER A VERY
ENCOURAGED BY THE COMMENTS OF
THE VICE CHAIR IN THE LAST.
DISCUSSION HOPE THAT THAT WILL
BRING HIM TO SUPPORT THIS
MEASURE BECAUSE THIS IS ALL
ABOUT AND ENSURING THAT THE
TRULY THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY
OF VOTERS AT LEAST IN THIS CASE
ONCE AGAIN STILL WITH A HIGHER
BAR. I WILL BE ABLE TO OUT TO
WIN TO SUPPORT LOCAL SCHOOL SO.
USCA TWENTY TWO WOULD ALLOW
LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT PERSONAL
TAXES THE PASS WITH A FIFTY FIVE
PERCENT VOTER APPROVAL RATHER
THAN THE CURRENT.
TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT SO I
SERVED ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IN MY
HOMETOWN OUT FOR TWO TERMS
BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO THE
SENATE. IT WAS A DIFFICULT
MOMENT FOR FOR ME WE SERVE
DURING THE DOWNTURN THERE WERE A
LOT OF REAL CHALLENGES AND AM I
AND WE KNOW THAT OUR DISTRICTS
CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE FROM ALL
YOU KNOW FROM A LOT OF
CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH. WITH
WITH THEIR DEFICITS WITH ALL THE
NEW LIABILITIES THERE'S NOW THE
NEW I PENSION LIABILITIES THAT
HAVE BEEN IMPOSED UPON THE
DISTRICT'S THROUGH SOME OF THE
STARS REFORMS.
IN SO MANY DISTRICTS ARE
CONTINUE MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES.
THE FACT IS THAT WHILE CITIES
HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF
RAISING LOCAL REVENUE WE
DISCUSSED ONE JUST EARLIER IN
THE CONTEXT OF THE. OF THE
GLACIER BILL. THEY HAVE
TRANSACTED SEE TAX OPPORTUNITIES
THEY HAVE.
YOU KNOW A BIT OF OF THE SALES
AND USE TAXES THAT CAN BE PASSED
WITH A MAJORITY VOTE OF THEIR
POPULATION SCHOOL DISTRICT THE
ONLY WAY THE ONLY WAY THAT
SCHOOL DISTRICTS CAN GET
ADDITIONAL. OUR GENERAL FUND
REVENUE SHORT OF SITES
FUNDRAISING IS THROUGH PARCEL
TAX AND A PARCEL TAX IS A TWO
THIRDS VOTE. I IT'S A VERY
DIFFICULT THRESHOLD TO MEET AND
IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO
TAKE ROOT FOR THOSE AREAS. WHERE
THERE MAY BE YOU?
BUT ALSO THE DIFFERENCE
CIRCUMSTANCES TO TO RAISE THAT
THAT EXTRA MONEY. OUT LOTS AND
LOTS OF PERSONAL TAX MEASURES
FAIL LOTS AND LOTS OF. OF OF.
OF DISTRICT DON'T EVEN BOTHER
PUTTING A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT
EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW THAT A
STRONG MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS IN
THEIR COMMUNITY WOULD SUPPORT
SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S
SO DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE AN
UNPREDICTABLE. TO TRY TO REACH
THAT THAT TWO THIRDS MAJORITY
AND.
ULTIMATELY IN IN RECENT DAYS
PART OF THE AXIS OF REALLY ONLY
BEEN APPROVED BY A SMALL NUMBER
OF DISTRICTS WHICH HAVE TENDED
TO BE SMALLER AND WEALTHIER
DISTRICTS. SO THERE'S AN
ANALYSIS FROM US EVEN THE
ANNENBERG SCHOOL THAT MANY MORE
SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE KNOW WOULD ACTUALLY.
EXPECTED PAST PRESENT TAXES
THEY HAD A LITTLE VOTE THRESHOLD
AND HERE'S THE THING IN THE END
OF THE DAY WHEN I FOUND.
BEING ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IN NOW
SERVING IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
PEOPLE REALLY TRUST THEIR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT SO MUCH MORE THEY
TRUST THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD
SITTING DOWN THE STREET THAT
ACTUALLY RUNS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
NEARBY THAT MUCH MORE THAN
SACRAMENTO AND IT WOULD BE.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THIS
IS A WAY TO ALLOW FOR A REAL
LOCAL SELF DETERMINATION. FOR
LOCALLY ELECTED LOCALLY
ACCOUNTABLE SCHOOL BOARD WHO
HELD TRUST WITH THEIR LOCAL
ELECTORATE. ODD TO ADD TO TO TO
GO TO THE ELECTORATE TO PUT THIS
ON THE MEASURE ASK THEM FOR
THEIR SUPPORT OF COURSE ANY
MEASURE LIKE THIS COULD BE
RESCINDED.
BY A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE AS WELL
AND WITH THAT I RESPECT AFTER I
THOUGHT OKAY THANK YOU SENATOR
ALAN A WITNESS IS IN SUPPORT.
WELCOME.
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS
CHRISTINA MARCELLUS WITH CAPITAL
ADVISORS GROUP ON BEHALF OF THE
SANTA CLARA COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION SAN DIEGO COUNTY
OFFICE OF EDUCATION SAN
FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT PARAMOUNT UNIFIED
SCHOOL DISTRICT. IN THE SMALL
SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS THE ASIAN
AND SUPPORT THANKS VERY GOOD
THANK YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DOMINIC
TOMORROW HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TEACHERS ASSOCIATION
NOT HERE SUPPORT AS A TWEENER.
HAVE SOME CONCERNS WE'VE BEEN
TALKING WITH SENATOR ALAN.
CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE NOT ABLE TO
ACCESS PER PERSON TAX UNDER THE
CURRENT LAW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
AVAIL OURSELVES OF THAT
OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE ALL THE
FUNDING NEEDS OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS
BECAUSE WE ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WE
HAVE ALL THE OBLIGATIONS OF
PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND WHEN IT COMES
TO PENSIONS. AND.
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THINGS
LIKE THAT FACILITIES WE'D LIKE
TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PARCEL
TAX WE'VE ASKED SENATOR ALAN. TO
ENTER INTO A DIALOGUE. ON THIS
MATTER WE ENGAGE THAT DIALOGUE
WERE PART OF THE WAY THERE AND
SAY WE ARE ABOUT. FIFTY FIVE
PERCENT OF THE WAY THERE.
SUPPOSE WE'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE
REMAINING FORTY FIVE.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH HIM ON
THIS ISSUE AND DESCRIBE YOUR
ISSUE IN OUR CONCERNS AND ART
TWEENER POSITION ERY GOOD THANK
YOU MISTER MARK. OTHERS IN
TWEENER LAND.
XENA AND.
.
THIS IS AN OPPOSITION MISTER
WOLF I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU TO
THE POINT.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN YEAH
DEFINITELY NOT TWINNING HERE.
DAVID WILL FOR THE HOWARD
JARVIS TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION AS
OPPOSED TO DATAS CA TWENTY TWO.
AND MEMBERS I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO ASK FROM THE OUTSET
WHAT IS THE POINT AND PURPOSE
AND RATIONALITY THIRDS VOTE I
WANT TO LAY OUT A METAPHOR HERE
FOR YOU. AND THIS IS.
QUARTER IS SAYING IT'S USUALLY
ATTRIBUTED TO BEN FRANKLIN. AND
HE ONCE SAID DEMOCRACY IS TWO
WOLVES AND A SHEEP DECIDING
WHAT'S FOR DINNER.
OBVIOUSLY MEMBERS IN THAT
EQUATION THE SHEEP DOESN'T FARE
SO WELL.
AND THE SAME THING HOLDS FOR
PERSONAL TAX.
EVERYBODY GETS TO VOTE ON
PERSONAL TAXES ANY SCHOOL
DISTRICT BUT IT'S ONLY THE
PROPERTY OWNERS THAT PAY THEM.
AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS LIKE THE
POOR SHEEP THAT GETS EATEN NEEDS
PROTECTION.
AND THAT'S WHY THE TWO THIRD
VOTE IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT'S WORTH NOTING TOO THERE IS
A HIGH THRESHOLD OBVIOUSLY FOR
PERSONAL TAXES YOU KNOW FOR THE
REASON THAT I JUST MENTIONED
WANTING TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY
OWNERS. BUT IT'S NOT A THRESHOLD
THAT CAN'T BE OVERCOME IT'S
OVERCOME ALL THE TIME.
SEPARATE TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL
TAXES. IN ORDER TO FIND ROADS
AND ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE
CALIFORNIA CITY FINANCE WHICH IS
THIS.
WEBSITE COMPILATION IF YOU WILL
OF LOCAL TAX AND BOND MEASURES
UP AND DOWN THE STATE.
A REVIEW SINCE TWENTY TWELVE
SHOWED THAT IN NOVEMBER
ELECTIONS TWENTY TWELVE TWENTY
FOURTEEN TWENTY SIXTEEN. FORTY
ONE OF FIFTY FIVE EDUCATION
PERSONAL TAXES OR SEVENTY FOUR
PERCENT WERE APPROVED WITH A TWO
THIRDS VOTE. SO THIS IS A
THRESHOLD AND THAT'S FINE IF
COMMUNITIES WANT TO PASS
PERSONAL TAXES WITH A TWO THIRDS
VOTE WE DON'T OPPOSE ANY OF
THOSE WE DON'T STAND IN THEIR
WAY. IF YOU CAN HIT THAT SUPER
MAJORITY THRESHOLD SO BE IT.
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT AGAIN?
PERSONAL TAXES ARE REGRESSIVE.
OKAY.
WHERE THE YANNI TWO BEDROOM
HOME OR A MILLION DOLLAR MANSION
YOU PAY THE EXACT SAME FLAT
RATE?
WHAT I MEAN SAID VERY VERY
REGRESSIVE KAREN VERY REGRESSIVE
FROM MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES AND
AGAIN THAT'S ALL THE MORE REASON
WHY I THINK THE TWO THIRDS VOTE
NEWSSTAND PLACE FOR ALL THESE
REASONS ASK FOR ANOTHER? THANK
YOU MISTER OF ANY OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION. BUTTON BLOCKER THE
CALVARY TXPAYERS ASSOCIATION
WERE ALSO IN OPPOSITION I WAS
FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO
KEEP IN MIND THAT ON MARCH THE
PUBLIC POLICIES TO CALIFORNIA. I
HAD A POLL ARE SURVEYED.
BOATERS WHO OVERWHELMINGLY
SUPPORTED THE TWO THIRDS OF
PROTECTION ON TOP ON NEW TAXES
SO IT'S IN THE THAT TAXPAYERS
AND VOTERS ALIKE IN THE AGREE
ON.
IN ADDITION TO THE COMMON
STROLLED MADE ABOUT A QUICK WIT
DOES INCREASE HOUSING COSTS. END
UP BETWEEN TWO THOUSAND TEN TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN.
PERCENT OF. A PERSONAL TAXES
THAT WERE PROPOSED A FAILED
BECAUSE OF THE TWO THIRDS OF
SUPER MAJORITY SO IT'S JUST
SOMETHING WE. WE LIKE TO KEEP IN
MIND AND FOR THOSE REASONS WE
POST THINGS ABOUT. OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS ROBERT
SPIEGEL CALIFORNIA FARBER FUSEE
ROBERT SIEGEL CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU FEDERATION ALSO IN
OPPOSITION. THEY MISSED BEING
HOME. OTHERS NOT POSITION.
BRING BACK TO THE DIS MEMBERS
COMMENTS QUESTIONS.
MR VICE CHAIR. BILL. OUT THANK
YOU.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M.
THE CARTOON WIMPY THE CHARACTER
WIMPY HAS A GREAT LINE HE SAID
AT A HAMBURGER AND ARE GLADLY
REPAY YOU TUESDAY FOR A
HAMBURGER TODAY.
AND.
THE HARDER AS TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION ME THE POINT. YOU
KNOW WE'RE NOT ASKING EVERYBODY
TO PAY THIS FOR ASKING FOR CHESS
PARCEL OWNERS TO PAY IT.
AND FROM MY DISTRICT AVERAGE
SALARY ALLOWS NOT DIE NUBA IT IS
SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
PER HOUSEHOLD.
AND WHEN THOSE FOLKS BY THE WAY
I THINK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP IT
WAS OF GREAT BENEFIT TO MY
DISTRICT.
WHEN THEY GET STARKILLER IN
THERE BINDER ENTRY LEVEL HOME.
WHETHER ENTRY LEVEL CONDO.
YEAH AND THESE TAXES ARE PASSED.
THEY CUT DIRECTLY INTO DIRECTLY
BECAUSE THE NEXT PERSON THAT
GOES TO BUY THAT HOUSE.
IS GONNA QUALIFY FOR THE HOUSE
BASED ON WHETHER THEY CAN AFFORD
THE PAYMENT WITH TAXES.
TO ASK THOSE TAXES GO UP IT
COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF THE
RECORD.
AND IF THEIR THRESHOLD IS THREE
QUARTERS.
THEN EVERYONE HAS TO AGREE THAT
THIS IS A TREMENDOUS PROJECT IN
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROJECT THAT
THAT'S THAT'S NOT. FULLY THOUGHT
THROUGH I HAD A SCHOOL DISTRICT
IN MY DISTRICT AND IT'S A BOND
IT'S NOT THE SAME THING AND I
GET THAT.
BUT THEY PAID. FOR A HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLAR BOUNTY TO THE
FORTY YEAR LOAN WHICH TURNED OUT
TO BE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS AND
PAY BACK.
FOR I PADS AND I THINK WE ALL
CAN AGREE THAT I PAT'S NOT GONNA
LAST FOR FORTY YEARS.
SO PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT
FREQUENTLY NOT ALWAYS BUT
SOMETIMES MAKE MISTAKES BUT WHEN
YOU'RE MAKING A MISTAKE. WITH
THE ONLY INVESTMENT A FAMILY
HAS.
THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING TOOTH AND
NAIL TO KEEP AND YOU'RE MAKING
AND YOU'RE TAKING EQUITY FROM
THEM. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT.
THE RICHER PORTIONS OF MY
DISTRICT WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD.
TO TAKE THAT HIT I'M TALKING
ABOUT.
OF THE WORKING CLASS FOLKS THERE
JUST ONE STEP AHEAD OF OF LOSING
THEIR HOUSES THEY MISSED A
PAYCHECK.
AND THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T BUILD
SUPPORTED TODAY. I GET WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO.
EACH WEEK WE JUST EACH OTHER
ALL THE TIME AND I APPRECIATE
THAT NIGHT AND I HAVE A LOT OF
ADMIRATION FOR YOU.
BUT I CAN'T GET THERE BECAUSE MY
DISTRICT IS NOT AS AFFLUENT SOME
OF THE MEMBERS.
OF THE LEGISLATURE AND THEY
CAN'T TAKE THIS KIND OF HIT OR
HAVE THIS KIND OF RISK.
IN SADLY IT'S TOO EASY FOR
SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T OWN
PROPERTY TO PICK UP AND MOVE TO
ARIZONA IF THINGS GET TOO HOT IN
CALIFORNIA. THEY CAN THEY CAN
MOVE ELSEWHERE. AND THEY'RE
STILL STUCK WITH THE DAT.
AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A HIGHER
THRESHOLD.
SO.
.
I WILL BUILD SUPPORTED TODAY
QUESTION WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
CARE DEEPLY ABOUT EDUCATION I
JUST THINK THIS IS THE LONG WAY.
THANKS SENATOR ANDERSON CENTER
LABOR.
I WILL MOVE THE BILL AFTER. THAT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME BUT. IS OF
SENATOR ALLEN DID I READ IT IN
THE BILL THAT THIS WILL HAVE ON.
MORE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THE
MONEY SPENT OR GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY ON HOW THE MONEY
IS SPENT. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S
WHAT I IF I READ IT CORRECTLY
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I
REALLY LIKED ABOUT THE BILL
BECAUSE SOMETIMES A GOVERNMENT
WE DO ALLOCATE MONEY. AND WE ARE
ALWAYS GREAT AT MAKING SURE GETS
BUT THE WAY WE WANTED TO BE
SPENT YES I APPRECIATE YOU YOU
RAISING THAT ISSUE THE BILL
REQUIRES THAT THE GOVERNING
BOARD AND IN. CONNECTION TO
RAISING REVENUES IN THIS MATTER
WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE TO CONDUCT
AN ANNUAL INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL
AUDIT. TO EXAMINE THE SPECIFIED
PURPOSE AND PROGRAM. ARM
FUNDING.
RESULTING FROM THIS.
FROM FROM THIS TAX AND THEN IT
WILL ALSO HAVE TO ESTABLISH A
CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO
REVIEW REVIEW ALL THE
EXPENDITURES AND PRO OF PROCEEDS
AND FINANCIAL AUDITS YES I LIKE
TO SIT AND THERE'S ALSO A AN
EXEMPTION FOR. FOLKS WHO ARE AT
LEAST SIXTY FIVE IF THEY COULD
PUT ON AN EXEMPTION FOR FOLKS
ARE OVER SIXTY FIVE OR ANY
INDIVIDUALS. RECEIVING SSI
BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY GREAT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THE
BILL.
THE MOTION FROM SENATOR LLEVA.
THE MOTION IS.
DO YOU PASS REFERS THAT
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SENT
OUT TO JOIN A CLOSE I REALLY
APPRECIATE DISCUSSION I WILL SAY
I I I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE
ARE CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF
REGRESSIVITY AND ALSO. OF ACROSS
THE BOARD.
APPLICABILITY OF THE TAX.
AND WHEN YOU GUYS ARE READY TO
SUPPORT A.
LESS REGRESSIVE AND A TRULY
ACROSS THE BOARD.
TAX. I'D PROPOSAL FOR FOR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS I'M VERY INTERESTED IN
WORKING WITH YOU.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR US IS
BANNED THAT THERE'S JUST BEEN SO
IT'S SO LITTLE AND WILL IS SO
MUCH A LITTLE WILLINGNESS FOR
ANY SORT OF. OUR NEW REVENUE
GENERATION FOR LOCAL SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THAT THAT.
YOUR ARGUMENTS WITHIN WOULD
PROBABLY BE RESPECTED RING A
LITTLE HOLLOW OUT BUT BUT BUT
CERTAINLY INTEREST IN WORKING
WITH YOU IF THERE'S AN
ALTERNATIVE THAT YOU THINK IS
FAIR.
THANK YOU SENATOR ALLEN.
.
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
STERN RIGHT STERN I ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NO ALLEN. ALLEN I HEARD
SPURRED. SCA TWENTY TWO TWENTY
TWO. BY ELEVEN FOUR FIVE.
NUMBER FOUR EIGHT TWENTY TWO.
PM.
HERTZBERG I A LABOR. LABOR SIDE.
THAT IS FOUR TO ONE LIKE YOU I
HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE.
I CHAIR MERIT IS GONNA TAKE THE
GAVEL WE WILL.
I'M SORRY THAT THAT EVERYONE IS
VOTED THAT'S FOUR TO ONE THAT
MEASURES AT SCA TWENTY TWO AND I
WILL PASS THE GAVEL TO THE CHAIR
MERIT IS TO.
ROOM LEFT THE REMAINING CALLS.
ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA WE'RE
LIFTING THE CALL ON ITEM NUMBER
ONE THAT'S AS HE EIGHTEEN.
CENTER ALEX A FANTASTIC BILL AS.
THE CHAIR HAS VOTED AYE AS BY
STERLING NOTES OF.
THREE TO ONE VOTE CURRENTLY.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG FINE.
NICE THAT'S OUT FOUR TO ONE.
WE'RE GONNA LIFTED TO CALL
ANOTHER NUMBER TWO AS HE
NINETEEN CENTER GAINS AS BILL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AND WE
REFERRED TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS. HERTZBERG
HERTZBERG.
OKAY WE HAVE.
SCA TWENTY THIS IS CENTER
GLASER'S BILL ITEM NUMBER THREE.
I CHAIR NOT VOTING VICE CHAIR BY
TWO TO ONE CURRENTLY.
MOTION IS TO PASS AND WE
REFERRED TO SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS HERTZBERG.
HERZBERG I OKAY THAT'S THREE TO
ONE WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
THAT WE'RE CLOSER ROLE IN THAT.
THEN FINALLY ITEM OF CERTAIN TO
MORE ITEMS FIVE THAT SENT A
SUMMER GUNS ALL FLUSTERED AB
THREE OH SIX.
MOTION IS DO PASS AS AMENDED
WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I CURRENT
VOTE AS TO WHY IS ONE NOW.
HERTZBERG HERZBERG I LEAVE THEM
LABOR. OKAY AND THEN FINALLY AT
THAT'S FOR THE ONE THAT'S OUT.
ECHOES TO THE FLOOR NOW SO I
DON'T EVER SIX AB TEN THIRTEEN
DECEMBER LOW CARE VOTING I
ADVISED HER VOTING I THREE TO
ZERO.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AND WE
REFER TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
HERTZBERG.
I LABOR. LABOR OKAY THAT'S FORTY
THAT'S FIVE ZERO THAT'S OUT AND
I THINK WITH THAT WE ARE
COMPLETED WITH OUR BUSINESS.
AND WE WILL ADJOURN THE HEARING.
UNDER THE.
FOR THIS I NOW PRESENT TO