.
AND.
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL CHRIS.
SENATOR SKINNER I'M HERE CLEANER
ANDERSON.
CENTRE BELL.
ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING TO.
.
START WITH A.
AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON OUR
REENTRY PROGRAMS.
AND.
WE CAN HAVE ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS
AT THE TABLE AT ONCE.
I THINK NO WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO
AT ONCE BECAUSE OF VISA SMALL
TABLE SO TAKE THAT BACK SO WE'LL
START WITH.
I'M CATHERINE CATCHER. AND CASEY
TAYLOR WHO ARE BOTH WITH.
THE ORGANIZATION ROUTE AND
REBOUND.
I WOULD HAVE HAD EVERYBODY IT
ONCE BUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE I'M USE
TO CHAIRING A IN A BIGGER
HEARING ROOM.
BUT WHEN WE DO THE SECOND WILL
HAVE BOTH SPEAKERS.
.
SO.
.
WE'VE ASKED THIS.
DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY
IT WITHIN THE BUDGET ENTERTAIN A
LOT OF DIFFERENT ITEMS RELATED
TO RE ENTRY. AND SO THE PURPOSE
OF THIS.
INFORMATIONAL AS TO WHAT.
WATER REMAINING OUR WATER
CONTINUING BARRIERS AND WATER
SOME OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE
THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN
RELATIONSHIP TO RE ENTRY.
YOU MAY START.
FOUND
AND I'M IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE
HERE THIS MORNING SO THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR HAVING.
AND WE FOUND WE ARE AS A RESULT
WE.
LOCATED IN OAKLAND WORKAHOLIC.
YEAH. LOOKING.
WORKLOADS.
HE HAD HOME FROM CHRIS.
SO MORNING HERE GLORY TODAY.
CUSTOMER GENERAL AREAS.
SO NINE. PARA PARA ANY A FLAT
INDIVIDUALS FOR THE BATHROOM.
IF YOU JUST HI. FORMERLY HERE
BECAUSE.
OUR ORGANIZATION.
HER. ARMS ARE ORGANIZATION AND.
SERVES THEM BY IN THE LAST TWO
AND A HALF YEARS HAS SERVED.
MORE THAN SIXTY THOUSAND PEOPLE
THROUGH A VARIETY OF MECHANISMS
AND ONE IS THAT WERE THE FIRST
ORGANIZATION TO PUBLISH WHAT WE
CALL THE ROADMAP TO RE ENTRY.
WHICH IS A LEGAL GUIDE THAT
WALKS PEOPLE THROUGH NINE AREAS
OF LAW AND LIFE AND PROVIDES
PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED
WITH INFORMATION THAT LAWYERS
HAVE WITHOUT ONE LAWYER FOR
EVERY EIGHT THOUSAND INDIGENT
PEOPLE IN THE STATE THAT NEEDN'T
ATTORNEY.
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GET
INFORMATION TO THE MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED.
ANOTHER EFFECTIVE ON STRATEGY
THAT WE'VE UTILIZES A REENTRY
LEGAL HOTLINE
IT'S A FREE HOTLINE THAT PEOPLE
CAN COM CALL FROM INCARCERATION
AND IN THE FREE WORLD. AND OUR
ATTORNEYS SPEAK TO PEOPLE EVERY
WEEK I'M MORE THAN A HUNDRED
PEOPLE CALL OUR HOTLINE ON A
WEEKLY BASIS AND WE SERVE
ANOTHER FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE A
WEEK THROUGH PRISON MAIL SO.
THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR DATA
AND INFORMATION IS COMING FROM.
WE ALSO WORK WITH A FAMILIES
ADVOCATES AND PROBATION AND
PAROLE DEPARTMENTS ON TO PROVIDE
TRAINING TO PEOPLE TO BOOST THE
CAPACITY OF ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS
THE STATE.
SO SOME OF THE MAJOR ISSUES
THAT WE'RE SEEING I'M STATEWIDE.
IS I'M STARTING FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS THAT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK IN
SOCIAL SERVICES AND HOUSING AND
EMPLOYMENT.
IN THAT SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND.
THEY'RE VERY SMALL AND THERE
ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN AND
THERE STAGGERED ACROSS THE STATE
AND THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE
REALLY THE BACKBONE OF WHAT WE
CALL THE REENTRY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE IS A NONPROFIT WITH A
VERY SMALL BUDGET HAVE MADE IT
OUR MISSION TO TRY TO BOOST THE
CAPACITY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS
ACROSS THE STATES ARE VERY
FAMILIAR WITH THEM AND ALSO WITH
WHAT THEY DO WELL AND WHAT THEY
LACK IN CAPACITY.
ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE
SEE IS THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS
WHILE THEY ARE HAVE INCREDIBLE
PROGRAMMING.
ARE REALLY LACKING IN RESOURCES
AND AT THE SAME TIME WE SEE
REENTRY FUNDING CONSISTENTLY
GOING TO CDC ARE AND DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS TO OVERSEE THAT
FUNDING WHICH AT THEN GOES TO
CORPORATIONS THAT GET MASSIVE
CONTRACTS TO DO WORK ACROSS THE
STATE. THESE CORPORATIONS HAVE A
WHOLESALE MODEL WHICH IS VERY
INEXPENSIVE I GAS THOUGH THEY'RE
GETTING MILLIONS OF NOT BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS A YEAR ONE NONPROFITS
ARE GETTING NONE OF THAT
FUNDING.
THE CORPORATIONS HAVE A PUNITIVE
APPROACH JUST LIKE CDC ARE THEY
TALK ABOUT PEOPLE AND TALKED
TOWARDS PEOPLE AS OFFENDERS
VERSUS HUMAN BEINGS THEY'RE NOT
CULTURALLY A FARMING AND THEIR
SERVICES BY AND LARGE ARE MUCH
LESS EFFECTIVE WHICH IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING TO BRING TO YOUR
ATTENTION HERE. WE GET
COMPLAINTS ON A WEEKLY BASIS
ABOUT DAY REPORTING CENTERS AND
OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES THAT ARE
BEING THAT ARE BEING CORPORATE
TIES AND MONEY THAT'S BEING
FONDLED FINAL THREE CDC ARE. AND
WE AND MANY ORGANIZATIONS ON THE
FLIP SIDE OF THAT ARE PROVIDING
COMMUNITY BASED TRAUMA INFORMED
GENDER INFORMED.
CULTURALLY AFFIRMING SERVICES
THAT ARE EFFECTIVE AND WE'RE
GETTING VERY LITTLE IF ANY
PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE
PROGRAMS.
COULD YOU ADDRESS.
.
INDEPENDENT OF WHO'S PROVIDING
THE SERVICE WHAT ARE SOME OF
THE.
I SERVICES THAT ARE EITHER MOST
NEEDED OR WHAT ARE SOME OF THE.
BIGGEST OBSTACLES TO EFFECTIVE
REENTRY MEANING AND RECIDIVISM
REDUCTION. OF WE COULD GET INTO
SOME SPECIFICS THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL INDEPENDENT OF.
PROVIDERS.
SOI'M I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION SO AND INCREASED
FUNDING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN
ACCESS BASIC NEEDS.
SO SERVICES THAT ARE A VEHICLE
TO BE SICKENING IT'S AND THAT
INCLUDES LEGAL SERVICES AND
ACCESS TO LEGAL INFORMATION AND
FOR PEOPLE TO GET RELIEF IN
AREAS LIKE JUST GETTING A
DRIVER'S LICENSE SO THEY CAN SET
UP A BANK ACCOUNT. AND APPLY FOR
HOUSING ACCESS AND.
TO SOCIAL SERVICES I'M
INTERRUPTING SO.
.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE
HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN STATUTE
BUT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN
DIRECTION AND FUNDING TO.
TO CDC ARE NINE TO LEAVE TO OUR
COUNTY FACILITIES THAT.
ANYONE RELEASED BE.
DETERMINE PRIOR.
THAT THEY HAVE AN IDEA AND IF
THEY DO NOT THAT A CALIFORNIA ID
BE ISSUE IS THAT NOT HAPPENING
OR. ABSOLUTELY I'LL ASK CASEY TO
SPEAK TO THAT ALTO INTRICACIES
OF THAT BECAUSE I'M THAT IS. AN
ISSUE THAT SHE SEES EVERYDAY AS
A AS A AS A HIGH REENTRY AT A
HOTLINE ATTORNEY I MINUTES.
THE INTRICACIES OF THAT HOW
THAT'S PLAYING OUT THAT'S BEEN
PROBLEMATIC.
YEAH WE HAVE MEN AND HEARING
ACCOUNTS WHERE INDIVIDUALS BOTH.
I DON'T.
AND SCREEN ROMANCE EVEN AND HOW.
EVEN WHERE THERE PROGRAMS IN
WHICH THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR
THAT TO HAPPEN TO BE RELEASED
NOT.
AND TIME THE OWNERS IS ON THE
INDIVIDUAL AUTHOR UNDERSTAND HOW
TO NAVIGATE POST RELEASE. A
GHETTO INTO WELFARE OFFICE OR TO
GET TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN
ACTUALLY OBTAIN THEIR
IDENTIFICATION.
WITHOUT HAVING ANY SUPPORT AND
GETTING THAT PRIOR TO RELEASE ON
ENSURING THAT.
SO I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE. ON
POLICIES THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT
ARE.
BEING IMPLEMENTED EYES.
SUCH AN PRACTICE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND I WILL
SAY THAT THE CAL ID PROGRAM IS
NOT AT EVERY FACILITY.
IT'S ON A PRIVATE FACILITIES
IT'S NOT COUNTY JAILS AND FOR
THE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN UP
CAL AB HAS CERTAIN CRITERIA
CERTAIN NOT EVERYONE CAN APPLY
FOR IT AND GET THEIR ID WHEN
THEY'RE STILL INSIDE. AND SO
THAT'S WHERE WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE
SHOWING UP AT OUR DOOR WHETHER
THEY'VE COME THROUGH THE JAILS
OR THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THE
CALIPER HIM OUT A CDC OUR
FACILITY THAT HAS IT OR THEY
WERE AT A PRIVATE FACILITY THAT
DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO CALADENIA.
ORDER PRE ENROLLMENT THEY COME
TO OUR DOORS AND THAT'S WHY SEE
LEGAL SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY
IS DOING A LOT OF DRIVERS
LICENSE WORK. AND ONE OF THE
ISSUES THAT'S RELATED TO THAT I
MEAN AGAIN BECAUSE THERE FORTY
EIGHT THOUSAND LEGAL BARRIERS
I'M FOR PEOPLE ON REENTRY THAT'S
AN AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION
NUMBER. AND IT'S COMPLICATED TO
SO I'M SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT
COME INTO PLACE ON THAT GO
BEYOND THAT THAT COLLEGES
PROGRAM WHERE LAWYERS ARE NEEDED
ON OUR AREAS LIKE I'M BLOWING
MONEY ON TRAFFIC TEETH OF
TRAFFIC A TRAFFIC TICKETS. AND
I'M OUTSTANDING.
.
BUT OUTSTANDING DEBT AND SO
THAT'S WHERE LAWYER CAN BE VERY
EFFECTIVE DIFFERENT COUNTIES
HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND
AGAIN I'M GOING TO THE COURT AND
SERVES A CHEMIST PERSONS PERSONS
INDIGENT CAN THEY DO COMMUNITY
SERVICE. INSTEAD OF.
YOU KNOW JUST BEING COULD
CONSISTENTLY BEING AND A CHEN ON
CHILD SUPPORT AND OTHER ISSUES
THAT.
THAT THAT EXIST AND UP IN WAGE
GARNISHMENT OF THIS IS WHERE I'M
BOTH IDENTIFICATION AND AND
EMPLOYMENT THAT IMPACTED BY THE
EXISTENCE OF DOUBT WHETHER
THAT'S THROUGH RESTITUTION. AND
COURT ORDERED THAT TRAFFIC
TICKETS THAT AMOUNTED OR CHILD
SUPPORT MAKE AND THAT'S WHY WE
BELIEVE THAT LEGAL SERVICES IS A
IS A CENTRAL PART TO BASIC NEEDS
AND SORT OF SETTING UP. OKAY SO
THIS IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE
INDIVIDUAL AN INDIVIDUAL
SITUATION AND SETTING UP
IDENTIFICATION SETTING UP.
AWAY TO.
.
MORNINGS.
CENTRE BELL.
.
WE HAVE LITTLE SNIPPETS OF
PROGRAMS LIKE YOU SAY OVER HERE
OVER THERE BUT NOT A LOT NOT BIG
ONES.
IS THAT THE KIND OF DESCRIPTION.
CORRECT DESCRIPTION RIGHT YES A
LITTLE HERE LOW HERE THEIR
PROGRAMS WE HAVE RISEN UP IN THE
COMMUNITY AND YEAH. I LIKE LIVE
TO HELP PEOPLE AND YET THEY GET
FUNDING FROM WHERE IT CAN MANAGE
TO GET THE YEAH.
FUNDING OF SO ARE THERE OTHER.
.
EARLIER STATEWIDE.
.
STATEWIDE.
.
PROGRAMS IN OTHER STATES THAT
ARE.
GOOD MODELS FOR CALIFORNIA TO
LOOK AT HER.
MAYBE HAVE AND IF YOU WANTED
NOT DO THIS LITTLE HERE THEY'RE
KIND OF.
APPROACH WOULD HAVE.
.
YOU PUT THE REHABILITATION AND
THE CORRECTIONS AND
REHABILITATION DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW THE REAL TRUE.
REALIZATION PART OF THAT. ARE
THERE OTHER STATES THAT DO A
MUCH BETTER JOB THERE REDUCE
RECIDIVISM AND INTERNAL.
REDUCE CRIME IN A COMMUNITY BY
BY. HELPING PEOPLE FIND JOBS
AND.
HEALTHCARE AND ALL THE THE NEEDS
OF THEY HAVE ONCE THEY LEAVE.
.
PRESENTING GOING TO OUR
COMMUNITIES I'M.
YEAH EN I'M IN THANK YOU THAT'S
A GREAT QUESTION CENTER AND IT'S
SOMETHING I'VE BEEN GRAPPLING
WITH IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS
SINCE I STARTED THIS MODEL
BECAUSE THE VISION WAS TO BE A
STATEWIDE REENTRY LEGAL RESOURCE
CENTER.
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN BY AND LARGE
IS BECAUSE CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN A
LEADER IN D. INCARCERATION IN
THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE ARE
ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FURTHEST
ALONG IN SENDING PEOPLE HOME YOU
KNOW WE HAVE MORE THAN THREE
THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT COME OUT OF
PRISON EVERY MONTH. AND MANY
MORE THAT CYCLE THROUGH JAILS
AND UNFORTUNATELY A TREND THAT I
SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOT JUST
IN THIS STATE IS THAT THERE'S A
LACK OF FUNDING THAT IS
FOLLOWING PEOPLE HOME. SO IN
SOME WAYS WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO
DO YOU ARE WHAT I'M SUGGESTING
IS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T SEE
IN A LOT OF STATES.
WHILE DE INCARCERATION IS
HAPPENING MY CONCERN IN THIS
STATE IS THAT OUR RECIIVISM
RATE WILL REMAIN AND PEOPLE WILL
CONTINUE TO GO BACK BECAUSE
MONEY ISN'T FOLLOWING THEM INTO
THE COMMUNITY AND ISN'T GOING TO
COMMITTEE BASED ORGANIZATIONS.
SORT I COULD POINT TO IT LIKE
IT'S A THERE'S AN EXCELLENT
GROUP IN LOS ANGELES THAT HOUSE
A DRIVER'S LICENSE REINSTATEMENT
OR GROUP THAT WORKS WITH WOMEN
IN HOPES OF HOUSING. AND THERE'S
A WONDERFUL YOU KNOW BUT WHAT I
ENVISION IS A STATE WIDE
INVESTMENT IN LIFTING UP THESE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT FOCUS ON
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING.
DRIVER'S LICENSE REINSTATEMENT
AND.
COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WHERE WE
CAN DO COULD COLLECT CAPACITY
BUILDING COLLECTIVELY.
AND FOCUS ON THOSE
REHABILITATIVE EFFORTS THERE ARE
BITS AND PIECES FROM OTHER
STATES AND AND MODELS THAT ARE
LEFT UP IN OTHER COUNTIES OR IN
OTHER REGIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO
SUBMIT TOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
YOURS TO YOUR TEAM.
AFTER THIS ADAM DURING THE MOST
COSTLY GROUPS'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE
INCARCERATIONS AND THE COME OUT.
AND THEY STILL HAVE MENTAL
HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
OUR PROBLEMS.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT A LOT OF
THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE
FOR.
.
MARIKO OTHER KINDS OF.
SERVICES THAT WE HAD WITH
HOUSING IT'S A LOT OF THESE
PEOPLE MIGHT PERHAPS.
YOU FOUND UNDER IF YOU FOUND A
LOT OF PEOPLE THERE HAVE BEEN
HOMELESS S. OF WELL WE WE WE
DON'T REALLY HAVE TO WE HAVE
ACCOUNT.
OR NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
LESS INCARCERATION.
THAT HAVE GONE.
BEEN HOMELESS WITHIN A
SHORT-PERIOD OF TIME AFTER
LEAVING.
THAT IS THAT SOME IS ARTISTS
HYSTERICS OR YEAH I BELIEVE THAT
IT'S A THE NUMBER IS THAT ON
IT'S ABOUT THIRTY PERCENT WILL
BECOME HOMELESS AND IN TH WITHIN
THREE YEARS AND SO THAT'S.
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
PREVENT THROUGH OUR WORK IS THAT
ON ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE
HAVE OUR HOTLINE THAT FUNCTIONS
INSIDE. AND WE ALSO GO IN INSIDE
OF FACILITIES ACROSS THE STATE
DO TRAININGS IN WEEKS WE SEND
RESOURCES WE SEND ABOUT TWENTY
FIVE THOUSAND RESOURCES A YEAR.
ON REENTRY PLANNING AND TRAIN UP
ON THE OFFICE OF CORRECTIONAL
EDUCATION SIDE OF CDC OURS WE
BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THAT COULD
BE MITIGATD IF WE STARTED
PEOPLE WITH INFORMATION BECAUSE
ONCE THEY'RE OUT WE DON'T HAVE
THEIR MEDICATION IT'S TOO LATE
WE'VE LOST THEM. AND SO A LOT OF
AGAIN THE THE FOCUS ON HAVING
LEGAL SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF
SERVICES I'M BEFORE PRE RELEASED
AND AGAIN NOT JUST THROUGH CDC
ARE BUT THREE IN A COMMUNITY
INVESTMENT. AND ALSO IN THE
FIRST THREE MONTHS WHICH WE KNOW
THAT THE FIRST NINETY DAYS ARE
THE MOST CRITICAL MEANS THAT
WOULD BE SETTING PEOPLE UP FOR
SUCCESS OFTEN WHEN THEY COME TO
OUR DOOR. IT'S IT'S THEY'VE YOU
KNOW IT'S TOO LATE AND AND A LOT
OF THINGS HAVE FALLEN APART AND
SO IT'S THOSE EARLY DAYS AND
THAT AGAIN WE HOPPED A SMALL
TEAM OF ATTORNEYS. AND A LOT OF
VOLUNTEERS AND YOU KNOW IT'S
KIND OF A BOOTSTRAP MODEL AT
THIS POINT AND.
THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
SERVICES ACROSS THE STATE THAT
ARE EXCELLENT THAT COULD BE A
PART OF. A LARGER IN BASKING IN.
JUST REALLY SETTING PEOPLE UP
FOR SUCCESS BECAUSE LIKE YOU
SAID THERE ARE THERE ARE EXIST
THERE'S EXISTING PROGRAMS ON
HOUSING PROGRAMS EMPLOYMENT
PROGRAMS.
.
FOOD.
AT MEDICAL CARE BUT IT'S THAT
ACCESS AND SERVE CARRYING PEOPLE
ALONG THE WAY TO ACCESS THAT
WOULD REALLY EMPHASIZE I WOULD
ALSO SAY AND AGAIN IT'S A BIT
ANECDOTAL BUT BECAUSE WE GET YOU
KNOW I'VE NOW HAD MORE THAN TWO
THOUSAND HOTLINE CALLERS CALL MY
HOTLINE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT BY
AND LARGE AND I DON'T WANT TO
MAKE GENERALIZATIONS I WILL TRY
TO BE CAREFUL HERE AND HOW I SAY
THIS FIGHT.
IT IS OFTEN THE CASE THAT A
PAROLE OR PROBATION OFFICER
AGAIN JUST YOU TO OVERWHELM WILL
JUST HAND SOMEONE A SELF
ASSESSMENT AND SAY A SAUCE
YOURSELF.
AND HERE'S A BOOKLET OF OLD
RESOURCES GO THROUGH IT.
THAT IS NOT THE TYPICAL
PRACTICE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND
FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE
DISABILITIES THAT ARE COMING OUT
OF PRISON THAT I EXPERIENCED
TRAUMA THEIR EXPERIENCE DOUBLE
STIGMA I'M AND IT IS I'M I I
WOULD I WOULD THINK THAT IT'S
BECAUSE OF OVERLOAD. THAT THAT'S
NOT HAPPENING EFFECTIVELY IF YOU
HAD THE FORTY YEAR LIKE WE HAVE
LIKE FOUR AND FIVE THOUSAND.
PEOPLE OUT THERE ESTIMATED BR
PAROLE SYSTEM.
IS HERB.
ANY KIND OF INFORMATION ABOUT
HOW MANY M. ARE HOMELESS OR ON
HOUSE.
OR.
.
HOUSING YOU KNOW PROBLEMS YEAH
AND KNOW HOW MANY AMERICA MIDDLE
THERE NOT GETTING MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES HOWEVER NOT GETTING.
OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT.
OF OTHER.
WHAT I CALM MENTAL HEALTH HEALTH
CURE ANY OTHER HEALTH CARE?
SERVICES SO YEAH THAT I WOULD
CALL WRAPAROUND IS THEIR NUMBERS
ON THAT I MEAN IS IT. I MEAN
AGAIN.
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
YEAH PROFIT IT'S PROBABLY
ANECDOTALLY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE.
OFFICIAL DATA STATEWIDE.
NO NO.
ONE INTERESTED IN THAT'S WHY I.
DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER YEAH AND I
DON'T KNOW. THAT WE HAVE A.
YOU AND.
GIVEN TO THE TRIGGER.
AND I ONE THING LEADS ONE IT
JUST NOTE ABOUT HOPE.
BOTH ENDS UP REACHING.
OUR OFFICE.
IS WHEN THEY'RE. EATING SUCH.
OFTENTIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED.
I AM HERE. PAPARAZZO HOTLINE.
MY SUPPORT.
IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE.
YOU INTENDED EQUAL ACCESS ARMY.
AND NOT THEY HAVE NO HOMES OF.
AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GET BACK.
AND HERE'S AIR. RAGE.
AND MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY LOOKING
HOUSING
THAT'S ANOTHER COUNTY WHICH IS
THEM FIRE.
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING LATER
TODAY.
NONNA.
EXCEPT FOR A MINUTE HOUSING
THAT.
LINE UP FOR.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS.
RIGHT IN THE AREA RECKONING.
PRESS.
WHERE DOES?
CHRISSY CAME ON BECAUSE THEY
WERE BEING.
COUNTY
AT A OF WAR.
OR A FRIGHTENED.
AND.
.
REYES AND.
THERE.
AND
YOU KNOW BRIAN MORE.
FOR AN EMPIRE.
IT'S ABOUT HER AS WELL AYE AYE.
THERE'S.
WITH MORE OFTEN PARTICULAR THERE
ARE EASY TO HOLLISTER.
OUR EXTENSIVE
USE.
PROGRAMS AVAILABLE.
OFTENTIMES THERE ME AND.
WITH A PAYMENT.
THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN A FAIRS.
THAT OFTEN BECAUSE PARTY.
WHERE THERE ISN'T FEDERATION OF
LIFE?
SOMERS WAS AWFUL LET THEIR.
POWER FOR OUR INTERVIEW.
WELL LOTS OF A THREE.
WHERE?
AND ORANGE ASIAN THOSE ASSESSED.
MENTAL HEALTH.
PROGRAM WHEN IT DOESN'T RELEASE.
HAS ALSO.
ON ISSUE AFTER FORMERLY IT
HERSELF.
HELLO POLICIES.
AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES LAST
WEEK OR AT BEST ANYWAY THAT'S.
ALSO CONSIDERING OTHER.
ACCESS. PERSONS.
UP I JUST WANTED TO ADD SO TO
CASEY'S POINT.
WHAT WE DO SEE ANECDOTALLY ARE
LET ME KNOW WEDNESDAY AND ONLY
BIKE WITH TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED
PEOPLE THAT WE'VE TALKED TO OVER
THE LAST TWO YEARS IS LIKE? HALF
AT LEAST HALF OF THEM ARE SELF
FOR ROLLING MEANING THEY HAVE NO
PLACE TO GO IN THERE THEY HAVE
NO PLANS BUT AS CASEY SAID
THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT CAN BE
DONE. PREEMPTIVELY.
AND AND SO TO THE POINT IS AND
I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE
THINGS WOULD BE KIND OF
REVISITING AND SORT OF TRAINING
UP I'M CDC ARE AND THE PAROLE
PROCESS. TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE
OKAY SO IF THE CRIME HAPPENED IN
A COUNTY WHERE I AM YOU DON'T
WANT THE PERSON TO GO BACK TO
YOU. BUT THEY HAVE FAMILY THAT'S
HERE AND AND AND AND THEY HAVE A
STAY AWAY AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA
GO NEAR YOU KNOW THE AREA OF THE
CRIME YOU KNOW IS IT APPROPRIATE
TO EVEN LOOK AT THAT AND THERE
CAN BE A KIND OF HEARING CAN
THEY BE RELEASED TO. A DIFFERENT
COUNTY RIGHT CAN THEY BE CAN
THEY BE RELEASED A WE HAVE A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO SAY I HAVE IF I GO
HERE. I'M GONNA HAVE FAMILY I'M
GONNA HAVE SOCIAL SUPPORT
THERE'S A PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW
MY MY MY DAD KNOWS SOMEONE WHO'S
GOING TO HIRE ME AS A
CONTRACTOR.
AND IF I GO HERE I'M HOMELESS
I'VE NO ONE AND AS YOU KNOW YOU
CAN I I CAN ONLY TRAVEL A FIFTY
MILE RADIUS ON FOR ALSO ACTUALLY
PROHIBITED FROM GOING TO THIS
PLACE WHERE HAVE SUPPORT. AND WE
SEE A LOT OF THAT AND SO LOT OF
WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH THE
DEPARTMENT IS KIND OF SOFT
ADVOCACY AND REACH OUT.
BUT SO BUT I THINK.
SOME.
BETTER PRACTICES AROUND THAT I'M
OFF BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING
SHORTAGE IN THE STATE OF MY
BELIEF IS THAT UP PEOPLE ARE
SAFER WHEN THEY'RE WITH FAMILY
THAN WHEN THEY'RE ON THE
STREETS.
AND IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A BETTER
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE IT'S ALSO
I'M BETTER FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL
ON THEIR FAMILY AND AND SO WE
DON'T KNOW WE SEE KIND OF A
FAMILY FIRST APPROACH.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I
WOULD SAY WOULD BE A BIG
RECOMMENDATION AGAIN HAPPY TO
SORT OF SUBMIT MORE ON THAT I'M
TO THE CHAIR.
SO.
OF THE QUESTION OF HOW THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN.
.
SO REENTRY OF
OF ROWLY.
IN THE STATE PRISON NOW.
TWO OF A PHYSICAL COUNTY AND
WHETHER OR NOT THERE.
GETTING COUNTY.
CONNECTIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
OR OTHER.
SOCIAL SERVICES HEALTHCARE.
NO OTHER.
HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ARE THERE IT USES WOULD BE.
WHERE THE STATUS OF SOMEBODY AS
A TRULY?
HAS RESULTED AND DENYING THEM
OF SERVICES BY.
COUNTIES.
IS THERE.
.
THAT SITUATION HAPPENING WERE
YEAH YOU'RE PRO RACE SO WE DON'T
DO THINGS FOR YOU OUR. YEAH SAID
INFORMAL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK
KNOWS THAT'S. THANK YOU THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION SENATOR SO ONE IT
ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS
JUST KIND OF CATEGORIES OF
PEOPLE. I'M SO WHAT WE SEE IS A
LOT OF.
THIS PROGRAM OR THIS HOUSING
FACILITY IS FOR NON VIOLENT NON
SEX OFFENDER.
AND THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING OUT OF THE
PRISON SYSTEM EVEN IF IT WAS
THIRTY YEARS AGO FORTY YEARS AGO
THEY FULLY REHABILITATED IF YOU
HAVE THAT ON YOUR RECORD THE
SERVICES ARE NOT FOR YOU AND
LARGELY GOD THAT HAS TO THOSE
FIRST NINETY DAYS.
AND SO THERE AREN'T ENOUGH.
FACILITIES WERE FREE TO START
KIND OF BASIC HOUSING THERE
ISN'T ENOUGH AND THAT'S TAKING
IN PEOPLE THAT THAT THAT HAVE
THAT BACKGROUND AND THEN I'D
STAY IN SORT OF SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES. AND AGAIN I THINK TO
OUR POINT.
THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TO JUST
EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THE FRAMEWORK
OF CDC ARE IN THERE ISN'T ENOUGH
FUNDING GOING INTO THE GROUPS
THAT ARE DOING A GREAT JOB TO DO
ENOUGH TO REACH OUT TO THAT
POPULATION I FIND THAT.
A LOT OF US THAT ARE IN THIS
THIS COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS SPACE WANT TO
REACH OUT BUT WE HAVE WAIT LISTS
OR YOU KNOW JUST JUST JUST
ISSUES THAT ARE PREVENTING US.
FROM BEING OF THAT AND THAT
VEHICLE FOR FOLKS BUT ON
UNFORTUNATELY IN THE STATE THERE
ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE IN THE
SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY WHICH OF
COURSE. I'M WE'RE GOING THROUGH
THE PROCESS NOW OF TRYING TO
INDIVIDUALIZE FURTHER BUT AS IT
STANDS IF YOU'RE ON THE REGISTRY
NO MATTER WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND
THERE'S NO INDIVIDUALIZED
ASSESSMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE
DONE OR IF YOU'RE NOT IF YOU'RE.
IF YOU COMMITTED ANY KIND OF
VIOLENT OFFENSE AND AND IN THEIR
THERE'S MANY THAT ARE KIND OF
CATEGORIZE IT IT'S NOT
INFORMATIVE VERY FORMAL PROCESS.
.
SO YES THAT'S HOLLYWOOD SO THE
COUNTY COUNTY WHICH IS CITY
FORGET IT WE'RE NOT GOING TO.
YOU THE SERVICES THAT WOULD
YEARS.
THE I THINK YEAH IT'S BUILT AND
THAT THEY THE ENTITY WHATEVER
ENTITY IT IS CAN NOT PROVIDE THE
SERVICE DUE TO THAT.
LEADERS DON'T DO.
NO MATTER WHAT.
NOT RIGHT NOW.
HE'S NO LONGER WORK.
I'M SORRY IT'S IT'S IN ME. IT'S
IN THE.
.
WELL I'M NOT SURE FITS THEIR
SOME IN STATE LAW BUT SOME OF IT
IS JUST IN.
THE.
.
GRANT AND WHO WERE THE FUNDING.
REQUIREMENTS FUNDING
REQUIREMENTS LIKING I'M FROM CDC
R. OR PROBATION AND ARE YOU NOW.
AGO.
SO IT PUTS THE RULE AND.
THERE A RULE SO SOMEBODY PUT
THAT IN THERE. YES XACTLY A LAW
TO JUST DO IT.
YES EXACTLY. AND NOT MY FEET
SOME MIGHTY IN STATURE WE DO
AFTER.
SO MUCH I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE
PRE RELEASE
ENROLLMENTS AND SERVICES. WHAT
OUR? IN AND I MEAN I THINK THE
LEGISLATURE HAS ACTED TO TRY TO
ENSURE THAT THERE'S PRE RELEASE
ENROLLMENT MEDI CAL AND PRE
RELEASE ISSUING OF ID'S BUT YOU
PARTY SPOKEN TO THAT THAT MAY
NOT BE FULLY HAPPENING.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT
OTHER.
PRE RELEASE ENROLLMENT.
IS CALIFORNIA MAYBE NOT DOING AT
ALL OR NOT DOING WELL THAT OTHER
STATES MAY BE DOING.
THAT COULD BE.
HELPFUL.
I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE THAT
WERE ONE OF THE FEW STATES THAT
DOESN'T HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING WITH THE. SOCIAL
SECURITY ACT CAN YOU ELABORATE
ON THAT YEAH.
I THINK WERE ONE OF THIRTEEN
STATES THAT DOESN'T HAVE A
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OF
THE SOCIAL SECURITY
ADMINISTRATION. SO THAT IN OTHER
IN AND ALL. YOU KNOW THIRTY
SEVEN STATES THAT DO THERE IS A
SORT OF MANDATE THAT WHILE
YOU'RE INSIDE YOU GET ACCESS TO
YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY
INFORMATION.
I'M ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN
PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING AND
IDEAS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO IF IT
ON THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
THEY CAN GT THEIR FIRST HAVE TO
GET THEY CAN GET THEIR DRIVER'S
LICENSE. AND SO ON THAT.
JUST EVEN BE ABLE TO GET YOUR
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER S
CRITICAL INSIDE AND THEN THAT
ALSO GOES INTO YOU AND BEING
ABLE TO APPLY FOR BENEFITS FOR
MEDI CAL FOR CAL FOR ASHTRAY
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE.
INFORMATION AND MAKES IT
IMPOSSIBLE TO APPLY AND UP LAST
YEAR OUR OUR GROUP WAS ACTUALLY
PART OF A LARGER WORKING GROUP
THAT TRIED TO.
YOU TO EDUCATE THE LEGISLATURE
ON THAT AND TRY TO MOVE
SOMETHING FORWARD ON THAT WAS
UNSUCCESSFUL AND BUT WE BELIEVE
THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY CREDIT
CALL AND AND AGAIN I THINK PART
OF THIS ALSO. AND IT'S US
BELIEVING THAT IT'S NOT AND WE.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE AND HONOR
THE AMAZING.
POLICY CHANGES THAT HAVE
HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS
TO BENEFIT THIS POPULATION WHICH
IS YOU KNOW ONE IN THREE
CALIFORNIANS HAVE A CRIMINAL
RECORD.
PART OF OUR CONCERN IS IS NOT
JUST POLICY BUT PRACTICE AND SO
YOU KNOW PART OF OUR CONCERN IS
THE WAY THAT AND IF THINGS ARE
HAPPENING INSIDE OF OUR PRISONS
ARE INSIDE OF OUR JAILS. AND IS
THAT THERE MIGHT BE UP THERE IS
A LACK OF TRAINING.
THAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THOSE
POLICIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED AND
THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
WHERE THERE THEIR CAREER
COUNSELORS OR TEACHERS OR
EDUCATORS THAT THEY HAVE THE
RESOURCES AND WE HAVE PEOPLE?
WHETHER THEY'RE OFFICE OF
CORRECTIONAL EDUCATION EDUCATORS
ARE CAREER COUNSELORS REACHING
OUT TO US.
FOR ONE OFF QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHAT IS THIS POLICY MEAN
SOMETHING'S COMING UP TO ME AND
THEY DON'T HAVE THE AS AN AS A
AS THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
DOESN'T SEEM. TO.
HAVE DONE A HOLISTIC.
CAPACITY BUILDING IN TERMS OF
THE KNOWLEDGE AROUND THOSE
POLICIES AND SO POLICY IS REALLY
IMPORTANT BUT IMPLEMENTATION IS
TO AND SORT OF THE CAPACITY
BUILDING TO UNDERSTAND HOW DOES
THIS NEW POLICY NOW CHANGE THE
NATURE OF YOUR JOB OR CHANGE
WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO OR SHOULD
BE DOING. FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
I'M A INCARCERATED IN THIS
FACILITY AND SO AM I WOULD I
WOULD ALSO JUST SUGGEST THAT.
SO BEFORE I MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT
OWN SPEAKERS WHO ARE MOST GOING
TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING.
RE ENTRY HOUSING ARE THERE ANY
FINAL.
AREAS AROUND EITHER.
FREE ENTRY SUPPORT RECIDIVISM
REDUCTION THAT YOU WANTED TO
HIGHLIGHT FOREST'S.
I'M NO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT
ESPECIALLY FOR THIS POPULATION
AND I'M YOU KNOW. POLICY CHANGES
REALLY IMPORTANT BUT I'M SO IS
AT DIRECT SERVICES. AND I AM MY
HOPE IS THAT.
I SORT OF SEE IT AS A TRIATHLON
AND THAT SORT OF THE THIRD PIECE
AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PIECE
WHICH IS AGAIN FOLLOWING PEOPLE
HOME I'M I'M ALWAYS THRILLED TO
SEE WHEN POLICY REFORMS HAPPEN
IN THEIR SAVINGS. THAT MONEY IS
GOING INTO SCHOOLS AND INTO
PREVENTION BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY
THAT A KEY PART OF PREVENTION IS
MAKING THESE ADULTS HOLE AND
BRING THEM HOME EIGHTY FVE
PERCENT OF PEOPLE IN CERTAIN IN
IN THE SANTA RITA JAIL ARE PARA.
SO IF YOU WANT TO HELP CHILDREN
AND YOU WANT TO CREATE
PREVENTION IT'S FOLLOWING THESE
PEOPLE HOME WITH DIRECT SERVICES
AND INVESTING IN DIRECT
SERVICES.
OUTSIDE OF CDC ARE FINDING
CREATING A FUNDING STREAM THAT
FOCUSES ON REENTRY BECAUSE WE
KNOW THAT A DUAL APPROACH
SUPPORTING CHILDREN AND
SUPPORTING THEIR PARENTS. IS
WHAT TRULY WORKS AND THAT IS
BASS PRACTICE THAT'S BEEN LIFTED
UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
RIGHT.
DOORS ALRIGHT SO THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR.
JOINING US TODAY AND PRESENTING
AND WILL NOW GO TO OUR GUIDE
DISCUSSION ON THE AND.
THREE ENTRY HOUSING AND BARRIERS
TO ACCESSING HOUSING AND WE HAVE
SHARON.
RAPPAPORT FROM THE CORPORATION
FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND DOUG
BOND. FROM THE AMITY FOUNDATION.
GOOD MORNING.
I'M SHARON REPORT I WORK ON
HOMELESS POLICY FOR THE
CORPORATION FOR SUPPORT OF
HOUSING.
THIS AGE IS A NATIONAL NONPROFIT
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FINANCIAL INSTITUTION ADVANCING
HOUSING SOLUTIONS FOR VULNERABLE
POPULATION.
I THOUGHT I'D START WITH JUST A
BRIEF STORY ABOUT AS ANDRE SHE
BECAME HOMELESS AT THE AGE OF
FOURTEEN. SHE CYCLED BETWEEN
INCARCERATION HOMELESSNESS FOR
ALMOST FORTY YEARS.
AFTER HER LAST RELEASE FROM
PRISON SHE FINALLY FOUND HER WAY
TO SUPPORT OF HOUSING. AND MOVED
INTO HER OWN APARTMENT FOR THE
FIRST TIME AT THE AGE OF FIFTY
THREE.
FIVE YEARS LATER SHE REMAINS
STABLY HOUSE AND FREE FROM A
BRASS
SHE WORKS FULL TIME AND
ADVOCATES FOR THOSE STILL
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR
SPARE TIME.
HER STORY IS NOT UNCOMMON ABOUT
HALF OF ALL PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS REPORTED HISTORY OF
INCARCERATION.
AND CDC ARE HAS PREVIOUSLY
REPORTED NET DID YOU SAY WHAT
PERCENT HALF ABOUT A FIFTY
PERCENT.
REPORTER HISTORY OF
INCARCERATION AND THAT'S IS SELF
REPORT SO COULD BE A HIGHER. BUT
THAT'S FIFTY PERCENT OF HOME OF
FOLK OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION
YES.
CDC OURS ALSO. UNDER BILL.
ROM WE'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT
THAT STATISTIC TO AND THE US
EASIER HAS.
ALSO PREVIOUSLY REPORTED THAT
BETWEEN ONE THIRD AND ONE HALF
OF PAROLEES HAVE EXPERIENCED
HOMELESSNESS AND SAN FRANCISCO
AND LOS ANGELES COUNTIES.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT HOMELESSNESS
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE RISK
OF RECIDIVISM. PAROLEES AND
PROBATIONERS ARE SEVEN TIMES
MORE LIKELY TO RESET OF BAIT
WHEN HOMELESS THAN HOUSE.
I'M PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS FIND IT VIRTUALLY
IMPOSSIBLE TO EXIT THE CYCLE OF
INCARCERATION AND HOMELESSNESS.
FOCUSING ON SURVIVAL THEY CAN'T
GAIN ANY MEANINGFUL ACCESS TO
TREATMENT.
AN THEY FACE SIGNIFICANT
BARRIERS ACCESSING HOUSING
BECAUSE OF THEIR CRIMINAL
RECORDS.
THEY OFTEN CANNOT ACCESS EVEN
HOMELESS ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THE
DEFINITION OF HOMELESSNESS
EXCLUDES PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
INSTITUTIONALIZED FOR LONGER
THAN THREE MONTHS.
WITH MASS LOS HIGHER CAN MINE
TO PSYCHIATRISTS AND NEW YORK
DEVELOPED WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS
THE HOUSING FIRST MODEL.
.
UNDER HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS
HELP PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS MOVE INTO PERMANENT
HOUSING. OR HOUSING THAT DOES
NOT LIMIT LENGTH OF STAY AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT PRE
CONDITIONS LIKE SOBRIETY OR
TREATMENT.
TENANTS RECEIVE RENTAL
ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM AFFORD
HOUSING AND TYPICALLY DON'T PAY
MORE THAN THIRTY PERCENT OF
THEIR INCOME IN RENT.
BASED ON TWENTY FIVE PLUS YEARS
OF RESEARCH HOUSING FIRST HAS
NOW BEEN.
RECOGNIZE AS THE ONLY EVIDENCE
BASED MODEL OF ALLOWING PEOPLE
TO EXIT HOMELESSNESS.
AND THE LEGISLATURE I WOULD JUST
MENTION ADOPTED A STATEWIDE
HOUSING FIRST APPROACH TO
THROUGH SENATOR MITCHELL'S SP
THIRTEEN EIGHTY TWO YEARS AGO.
THOSE CDC ARE FUN SOME HOUSING
FOR PAROLEES IT DOES NOT FUND
HOUSING FIRST INTERVENTIONS THAT
DOESN'T CONNECT PEOPLE TO
PERMANENT HOUSING.
IT PROVIDES SOLUTIONS THAT ARE
INTENDED TO BE ONLY IN TERMS
LUCIEN'S LIKE SOBRE LIVING. OR
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
HOWEVER STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT
TRADITIONAL TRANSITIONAL HOUSING
IS NOT EFFECTIVE INTERVENTION
ESPECIALLY IF NOT PAIRED. WITH
ACCESS TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
IT'LL JUST POINT TWO ONE HAD
STUDY THAT I ATTRACT PEOPLE
RECEIVING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING
ASSISTANCE AND PERMANENT
HOUSING.
AND REMAINING HOMELESS I OVER A
THREE YEAR PERIOD AND FOUND THAT
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TENANTS.
HAD JUSTICE HIGHER RATE OF
RETURNING TO HOMELESSNESS AS
PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE NO HOUSING
ASSISTANCE.
STUDY AFTER STUDY ALSO SHOWED
THAT FOR THOSE SIGNIFICANT
BARRIERS TO HOUSING STABILITY
CONDITIONS.
PERMANENT HOUSING WITH SERVICES
THE COMBINATION KNOWN AS
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING REDUCES
RECIDIVISM.
ONE EXAMPLE IS THE OHIO
RETURNING HOME INITIATIVE.
AND OF MY ORGANIZATION IN OHIO
BROKERED SOME RELATIONSHIPS WITH
THE US DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
AND REHABILITATION.
AND OTHER STATE AGENCIES AS
WELL AS LOCAL HOUSING PROVIDERS
TO CREATE AND OPERATE THIS
PROGRAM.
IT PROVIDES HOUSING THAT DOES
NOT LIMIT LENGTH OF STAY ALONG
WITH CRISIS RESPONSE TWENTY FOUR
SEVEN. HOUSING NAVIGATION TO
HELP PEOPLE MOVE INTO PERMANENT
HOUSING. WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO
ADDRESS WHATEVER THE TENANT
NEEDS TO REMAIN STABLY HOUSE.
CARE COORDINATION THE CONNECT
TENANTS TO TREATMENT AND
EMPLOYMENT SERVICES.
THE PROGRAM CHANGE FROM A PILOT
TO PERMANENT IN TWO THOUSAND
TWELVE AND IT HAS GRADUALLY
EXPANDED THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND
GEOGRAPHIC FOOTPRINT.
THE URBAN INSTITUTE EVALUATION
OF THIS PROGRAM OF REPORTAGE
THAT RETURNING HOME TENANTS ARE
SIXTY PERCENT LESS LIKELY TO
RESET OBEY. FORTY PERCENT LESS
LIKELY TO BE RE ARRESTED FOR ANY
CRIME AND ALMOST THREE HUNDRED
PERCENT MORE LIKELY TO ACCESS
MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER TREATMENT.
BASED ON THIS MODEL WE ALSO HAVE
CREATED ABOUT THIRTY PROGRAMS
NATIONWIDE THROUGH OUR FREQUENT
USERS SYSTEM ENHANCEMENT OR
FUSE.
PROJECT IT HELPS COUNTIES
CREATE PROGRAMS FOR
PROBATIONERS.
.
AND I'LL JUST MENTION THAT
EVALUATIONS FROM THESE FUSE
PROGRAMS SHOW SIMILAR RESULTS.
THE SUPPORT OF HOUSING TENANTS
ARE ABLE TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE
RECIDIVISM. IMPROVE HEALTH
OUTCOMES AND SAVING CARS
RATIONING HEALTHCARE COSTS.
TENANTS ARE ALSO ABLE TO
DECREASE ARRESTS YEARS BEYOND
OTHER TIME LIMITED PROGRAMS.
FINALLY ALL HIGHLIGHT ONE
PROGRAM IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY
WHICH IS THE LA COUNTY
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES
OFFICE OF DIVERSION AND RE ENTRY
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM. UP
ODR IS INVESTING ABOUT A HUNDRED
TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS OVER
FIVE YEARS.
THE SERVE TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED
PEOPLE WITH FELONY CASES WHO
HAVE.
WHO ARE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS AND HAVE?
SERIOUS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
ISSUES.
BASED ON WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM
THESE PROGRAMS.
AND I RECOMMEND FUNDING FOR
BOTH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAMS
FOR PAROLEES OF EXPERIENCE LONG
HISTORIES OF HOMELESSNESS AS
WELL AS GRANTS TO COUNTIES TO
CREATE HOUSING FIRST
INTERVENTIONS LIKE THE ONE IN
LOS ANGELES COUNTY.
I FURTHER RECOMMENDS STATE
REDIRECT OF EXISTING RESOURCES
TO FIND EVIDENCE BASED HOUSING
INTERVENTIONS FOR PAROLEES
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS SUCH
AS SENATOR PELL'S S. B. TEN TEN.
SIMILARLY ANY STATE PROGRAMS
SHOULD LEARN FROM EXISTING
PROGRAMS IMPROVING OUTCOMES.
ENDS THESE OTHER PROGRAMS I
MENTIONED HAVE ALL LEARNED THAT
CORRECTIONS STAFF OF COULD FUNDS
PROGRAMS BUT SHOULD NOT BE
FUNDED AT NIGHT MINISTERING
HOUSING PROGRAMS THEY SHOULD BE
PARTNERING WITH. INTERMEDIARIES
HOMELESS SYSTEMS ARE COUNTY
PROGRAMS TO ADMINISTER HOUSING.
CORRECTIONS STAFF ARE NOT AND
SHOULD BE NOT BE EXPECTED TO BE
HOUSING EXPERTS.
PROGRAM SHOULD FUND NONPROFITS
WITH PROVEN TRACK RECORDS OF
MEETING SPECIFIC BENCHMARKS OF
SUCCESS AND EMPLOYING HOUSING
FIRST MODELS.
HOUSING PROGRAM SHOULD NOT
REQUIRE PROVIDERS TO OBTAIN
LOCAL APPROVAL OUR CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT.
PERMITS WHEN THEY'RE NOT
REQUIRED BY THE LOCALS.
OBTAINING LOCAL APPROVAL HAS
BEEN A HUGE HURDLE AND CITING ON
HOUSING. OFFERED THIS
POPULATION.
IN DESIGNING THE PROGRAM WE DO
THINK ELIGIBILITY SHOULD BE
BASED ON DATA FOR HIGH NEEDS
PAROLEES.
AND CDC ARE DOESN'T HAVE TO
FUNDS HOUSING BEYOND THE TERM OF
PAROLE BUT THEY SHOULD BE
PARTNERING WITH OTHER SYSTEMS.
TO ENSURE THAT THOSE PATROL
THESE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE
HOUSING BECAUSE THEIR PAROLE
ANNE'S.
WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO HOUSE
ALL PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL
BACKGROUNDS YOU A SINGLE SITE
REDUCE THE LOTS OF DATA SHOWING
THAT. OF PEOPLE ACCESSING
HOUSING IN THE PRIVATE PRIVATE
MARKET LANDLORDS OR AND A SINGLE
PROJECT THAT HOUSES OTHER
POPULATIONS ARE JUST AS
SUCCESSFUL.
THE STATE SHOULD ADOPT A NUMBER
OF STRATEGIES FOR ALL PAROLEES
NEEDING HOUSING ASSISTANCE SUCH
AS WORKING WITH HOUSING
AUTHORITIES TO REDUCE BARRIERS.
FOR ACCESSING FEDERAL RENTAL
ASSISTANCE.
WE SHOULD DISALLOW HOUSING
PROVIDERS PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO
ARE RECEIVING STATE FUNDING FROM
USING UP FROM SCREENING OUT
PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS
WE HAVE LOTS OF DATA SHOWING.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HISTORY OF
CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
BACKGROUND TO NOT MAKE ANY
WORSE TENANTS THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
WE NEED STRATEGIES THAT
COORDINATE THE EXPERTISE OF
MULTIPLE AGENCIES SO WE THINK
OUR CORRECTIONS AGENCIES SHOULD
WORK WITH OUR HOUSING AGENCIES
ARE HEALTH CARE AGENCIES. AND
VOCAL HOMELESS SYSTEMS AND COURT
SYSTEMS TO ADDRESS THE
PERSISTENT HOUSING FOR AYE
ISSUES THAT PROBABLY SPACE.
ABOVE LAWLER CORRECTIONS
AGENCIES SHOULD NOT WAIT FOR A
COUNTIES ARE HEALTH CARE OR A
HOUSING AGENCIES TO BEAR THE
RESPONSIBILITY. OF PAROLEES AND
PROBATIONERS HER MORE LIKELY TO
BE SET OF EIGHT BECAUSE THEY
HAVE NO PLACE TO CALL HOME.
FOR ALL THOSE LIKES ANDRES
STRUGGLING WITH REPEATED OR
PROLONGED CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM INVOLVEMENT AND PROVE
REPEATED OR PROLONGED
EXPERIENCES OF HOMELESSNESS. OUR
CORRECTIONS AGENCIES SHOULD TAKE
LEADERSHIP AND BREAKING THIS
COSTLY AND COMPLETELY CURABLE US
CYCLE. SO I THINK YOU FOR
INVITING ME TO SPEAK CAN LOOK
FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
NEXT SPEAKER NOLASCO QUESTIONS
BOTH
.
THOUSAND.
THREE.
THOUSAND.
AREAS.
WE OPERATE RESIDENTIAL.
SERVICES.
HOUSING.
TRAINING.
AND OTHERS.
HOUSING.
OFF WE.
WHERE ALSO PARTNERING FOR THE
SEVENTIES BUDGET IS IN THE?
OR PROP FORTY SEVEN ALSO.
HORIUCHI YOU CAN SERVICE.
THAT'S ALL WE MUST HAVE
PATHWAYS.
FOR ALL THE INVESTMENT ME.
SERVICE.
IT HAS.
ONE AREA THAT HAS BEEN LITTLE
FOCUS ON. AYE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS IS PLACEMENT.
ALSO THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR
US.
JACKIE. OR MAKE FUNDING
AVAILABLE.
ORDER PROVIDERS LIKE AMY
FOUNDATION
PLACE AND WOMEN.
AFFORDABLE AND SUPPORT HOUSING.
THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT AREAS THAT
HOUSING FOR MINIMUM MEMBERS.
ISN'T THIS INCLUDES FEDERAL.
DEFINITION.
LOU ANYONE END. UP WORDS ARE
SLATED TO ACCESS.
THIS IS.
THE.
AND SAYING LOW LEVEL AREAS
ADDRESSED EFFECTIVELY SOLVE THE
ISSUE.
THOSE ARE.
THE FACT SAID MEN AND WOMEN ARE
SEVEN TIMES MORE LIKELY. THROUGH
THE PRISON WHEN THEY'RE.
VOLUMES.
HOUSING.
THE RAISING OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN
THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL PROGRESS.
THERE SHOULD BE HELPFUL HOUSING
OPTIONS FOR
TREATMENT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
URBAN AND AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
OPTIONS.
WHICH SEEMS A. THE ACE BANDAGE
REGIME THE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES
IRA FROM.
ALL OF WHICH THREE.
THE STATE IS MAKING SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENTS ON IN PRISON
SERVICES. TREATMENT OPTIONS
WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
AND MORRIS ACTUALLY.
THE HEALTH OF THE SOCIALIZATION
PROCESS.
OUR STATE.
HERE'S.
HIS EYES FROM.
THIS CAN BE COMPLETED AND MUST
BE.
MANDOLIN AND THEIR FAMILIES.
SAY.
THERE'S GONNA CURRENTLY NO
FUNDING THING YEAH. I LIKE THAT
FOR MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR.
AND THAT MUST BE WHO. SERVICE
PROVIDER WE SHOULD BE OBLIGATED.
THE HOUSE.
LOT OF THE FAMILIES IN CITIES AS
SOON MIDDLEMAN ON PAROLE OR THE
STATE'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND FOR THAT REASON THEY INVOLVE
THE CRACKS IN
AND THE BACKING JAILS IS
MORE THAN.
WE ACTUALLY WORKED CLOSELY.
CREATION.
HOUSING.
RADIO.
AND HELP SUPPORT OUR*
WE WERE FINALLY SIGNED FOR THE
AUSTIN.
JAIL PROJECT.
HOUSING.
SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS. FOR
HOMELESS MEN AND WOMEN HERE.
THERE'S SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS OF
NONPROFITS SUCH AS AN E. EXPAND
FACETTI SERVICE.
HOUSING IN OUR.
THEY'RE OFTEN ISSUES OF
NONPROFITS ABILITY TO FINANCE
PROPERTIES
URBAN.
DEVELOPMENT WORKFORCE.
NONPROFITS CANNOT GET LOANS FOR
PROPERTIES WITHOUT A CONTRACT.
CAN I GET A CONTRACT WITHOUT
PROPER.
SO IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING AT
CITY THAT'S AN ENORMOUS BARRIER
FOR US WE'RE WORKING ON TWO NEW
PROJECTS VERY.
ONE FOR MEN ONE FOR WOMEN
OF IT ROUGHLY THREE HUNDRED
RESIDENTIAL AS AGGRESSIVE
CONTINUES AND. I HAD A LOOK AT
SIDES RIGHTLY.
THIS IS THAT NONPROFIT SHOULD BE
LEADERS BUYING THESE HOUSING AND
DEVELOPING.
.
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN ABOUT
NONPROFITS. TRACKING FINANCING
OF WORKFORCE ISSUES ARE
ADDRESSED REMAINS IN YOU SEE.
ALLOWING NONPROFITS ACCESS A
REVOLVING FUND FOR ACQUISITION
OF ADDRESS RANGE OF HOUSING.
GENERAL.
CHANGING SOME OF THE ISSUES
CONTRACT.
I MEAN FOR. ME.
TAX MONEY FOR REHAB WILL ALSO.
AS.
IF THESE FUNDS ARE NOT MADE
AVAILABLE PROFITS WE SIMPLY
CANNOT.
FOR PROFIT.
THIS IS.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT HE'S
FOR REENTRY HOUSING SERVICES
PRECEDENCE.
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ARE MOST
EFFECTIVE STAFF ARE THOSE THAT
HAVE BEEN FORMALLY CARCERI AND
HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN.
AND ARE RANGERS.
GIVEN.
INSTEAD GIVING INCENTIVES FOR
THOSE WHO BUILD AND OPERATE
RANCHO HOUSING TO HIRING
TRAINING WOMEN.
PARTIALLY.
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES SERVER ARENA.
S. IT DEAR COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND
OF MINE MARK WILSON
HERE TODAY.
I SEE HERE WITH THE COALITION
FOR A SPOT.
DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH US TO HIRE
MEN AND WOMEN SHARING THAT.
STRUCTURE TRACE ACTUALLY WORK
OUT PROPERTIES IN WORLD WAR.
BALLOT.
FERNANDO AFFORDABLE HOUSING
BUT A JOB SKILLS TRAINING
LOS ANGELES.
AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME
INCENTIVE.
MITCHELL'S
THERE ARE HIRING AND.
THEY ARE VERY HAVING. READ THREE
THOUSAND.
THEY'RE ALSO BUILDING HOUSING
FOR YOU CHANCES
YOU TRANSITION OUT OF OUR
THERE.
THIS SEMINAR AND THOSE ARE OFTEN
THE CHILDREN.
WE MUST ARE BREAKING DOWN SILOS
THIS DRESS.
AND UNDERSTAND WITH PERSONAL
STORY I MYSELF.
JERRY.
.
THIRTY YEARS AGO THE
ORGANIZATION THAT I'M NEXT MONTH
GOING SERVICE L. AS.
BOB WE HAVE LOST APPEARS AFTER
A.
LAWSUIT.
THEY GOT MY FATHER AFTER HIS
NAME.
TWENTY FIVE YEARS LATER IS
ACTUALLY.
I WOULD NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE
THAT I HAVE.
THE FIRST PROGRAMS.
THAT ALLOW CHILDREN.
EXISTE MY LIFE WHICH INCLUDED
THAT MY MOTHER NEVER KNOW IT'S.
SELECT A HEDGE FUNDS.
SIT ON.
THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE.
REYES.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR.
FOR THESE EFFORTS.
JUST A FEW OPTIONS A MILLION
FIVE ABOUT CREATES.
THINGS LOOK AT THERE'S A PRISON
IN ILLINOIS SCHOOL CHAIRED
RESILIENCE HIGHER PRESENT WE
WORK ON.
IN HIGHER FIVE THOUSAND.
IT'S ACTUALLY.
WHICH IS TREATMENT VOTE IS THE
ENTIRE PRISON THERE'S ALSO
FINDS.
WHERE THE ENTIRE BUSINESS BOOKS
ON TREES
AND JUSTICE ABOUT SMALL SAID?
ARE THERE SOME GOOD PROGRAMS OF
WASHINGTON STATE RIGHT.
YEAH. LOOK AT BEFORE ACTUALLY.
REARRESTED VERSION.
THE COUNTY WATER HAS BEEN
REACHED PROGRAM.
REACHING OUT TO THE GRASSROOTS
ORGANIZATION
AS ROOM.
EARLIER RECESSED LOS ANGELES WE.
HAS OVER FOUR HUNDRED GRAND
FIGHTERS IN LAS AND.
OTHER REENTRY GROUPS THROUGHOUT
THE STATE.
CONTACT THE. AGENCY AFTER.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE
RUNNING INTO RIGHT NOW IS THE
EXPANSION.
MORE ON
SIXTEEN PRESIDENT HOURS FIVE
PERSONS
AND THESE PROGRAMS WERE
DESIGNED.
WE'RE GOING TO STRETCH WHERE MY
WIDELY.
SERVICES.
PROGRAM TRINA.
EXPANSION AND DEVELOPMENT. CITY
FOR PROGRAMS LIKE AND.
PROGRAM IN THE
VERSION SIX HERE WE AYE ARE
GREAT PROGRAM.
HE WIDELY.
AND IT SHOULD CERTAINLY.
AND I ALSO IN THE AND REALLY
ADDRESSING FEDERAL OF.
THE STATE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME
PRESSURE FOR CHANGE.
WHEN YOU'RE IN RESIDENTIAL
TREATMENT SERVICES WERE NOT
CONSIDERED HOMELESS EVEN THOUGH
YOU.
YOU WILL HAVE NO HOMELESS.
WHEN ARE PRESIDENT. YOU ARE NOT
CONSIDERED HOMELESS EVEN THOUGH
YOU.
ONE HEARS
I HAVE NO ACCESS TO HOUSING.
ROOM.
HER.
.
WE IN TWENTY FOURTEEN THE
LEGISLATURE APPROVED.
RATHER MODEST AMOUNT THE TWENTY
FIVE MILLION THAT WAS TO GO TO.
A COMMUNITY BASED ENTITIES TO
PROVIDE RE ENTRY HOUSING.
AND THE MONIES WERE ONLY
DISTRIBUTED.
WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS
AND WHEN I LOOKED OVER TO WHO
ARE THE RECIPIENTS MOST DID NOT
PROVIDE REENTRY HOUSING.
SO I HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF
WHAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT WENT WRONG BETWEEN
OUR OUR. OUR APPROVAL OF THAT
BUDGET AND THE DELIVERY MEAN
CLEARLY.
THEM FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR
SOME GOOD PURPOSES JUST NOT
EXACTLY WHAT AND THE LEGISLATURE
HAD IN MIND WHEN IT WAS
APPROVED.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AT
ALL CAN YOU.
DESCRIBE TO US A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHAT WAS.
WHAT?
DID WE NOT INCLUDE IN OUR
DIRECTION.
THAT.
POTENTIALLY BECAUSE THE FUNDING
NOT TO BE USED FOR RE ENTRY
HOUSING.
I THINK THAT IT. IS NOT THAT.
ACTUALLY.
WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACCESS.
TELL YOU SOME OF THE CHAU.
THAT IS WAS A NUMBER.
THEY THEY LIKE LESSEN THE
REQUIRE.
HOUSE.
AND HE HAD ALSO BE.
CITY AN AREA. LOS ANGELES AND.
ASSEMBLY RECENTLY MARK ABELS.
ARMED WITH US ON THOSE AT.
SO HE'S LIMITED I'M SURE YOU
HAVE THEIR USES SMALLER
JURISDICTION YES THEY WERE THERE
ALSO TINY LIKE NOT ADDRESS FAIR
BUT AND HERE IS.
MOST.
ACTUALLY AND OF THAT PROCESS.
YOU KNOW THROUGH THIS.
ASSIST.
TONY LEVIN PROCESS.
THE CITY'S.
FIDEL.
TWO WIRED IMPROPER.
AND ARAMBULA HIS.
S..
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGES WITH THAT I WAS
REQUIRED A REQUIRED. THE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO
ALREADY BE IN HAND.
CRAZY. AS.
THOSE HERE OF THE DIRECTOR.
INSURANCE OUT ON THIS.
I WAS ONE OF OUR. ADVOCACY.
WAS HELPING.
ROMANCE THAT MONEY SHOULD BE.
NONPROFITS.
AS.
THE CHALLENGE ORDINARY.
LARGE AREAS.
S. ON SMALL OUT OF.
YOU SEE MARCHES.
COUNTIES A LA.
POSSIBLE TO.
THE I WOULD JUST ALSO ADD THAT.
HOW YOU KNOW I THINK A LOT OF
THAT MONEY DOUG WAS HOPING TO
HAVE NON PROFITS ACCESS TO?
CREATE TRANSIT A RESIDENTIAL
TREATMENT AND FOR HOUSING WE
SHOULD NOT AT THE STATE LEVEL BE
REQUIRING ANYBODY TO HAVE A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WHICH I
KNOW IN THE PAST HAS BEEN AN
ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE HOUSING
PROGRAMS THE C. R.. HAS
ADMINISTERED IS THAT THEY
TYPICALLY REQUIRE. OF A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
OR LOCAL LETTER OF LOCAL
APPROVAL ARE BOTH AND THAT'S
VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE
OF CITIES AND COUNTIES IS
POLITICALLY. YOU KNOW SAYING WE
WANT TO BUILD A HOUSING PROJECT
FOR.
TWENTY FIVE OR FIFTY.
PAROLEES WITH HISTORY OF
VIOLENT OFFENSES THIS IS
EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET
LOCAL.
CITING FOR SO SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT WE'VE MADE ADVANCES
ON ON THE HOUSING SIDE TO GET. A
LOCALS TO BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE
BARRIERS TO CITING PROJECTS FOR
HOMELESS PEOPLE. DON'T APPLY TO
SOME OF THE HARDEST OF HOUSE
PEOPLE WHICH ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE
WITH A HISTORY OF CRIMINAL
JUSTICE.
S. B. TO ACTUALLY.
TO BE ELIGIBLE ON THEIR S. B..
ORDER OF WORKING ON PROJECTS
RIGHT NOW.
THE BEST.
OKAY
SO COME.
IT'S A.
AS WE PROCEED WITH OUR BUDGET
DELIBERATIONS WE MAY OR MAY NOT
BE ABLE TO.
PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES.
WITHIN EACH.
WITHIN THIS VERY SPECIFIC.
.
S. REENTRY HOUSING SEPARATE FROM
ANY OTHER HOUSING ACTIONS BY THE
STATE OR BY THE LEGISLATURE. BUT
THAT SAID SENATOR BELEN AYE ARE
CARRYING A BILL WHICH MAY OR MAY
NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET S.
B. NINE TWELVE WHICH WOULD
DIRECT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
MONEY. TOWARDS.
HOMELESS HOUSING AND VERY LOW
INCOME HOUSING. NOW GIVEN THE
DATA YOU PROVIDED WHICH IS THAT
FIFTY PERCENT OF OUR HOMELESS
WERE FOUND FORMALLY
INCARCERATED.
WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO IN
WHATEVER AND?
WAYS THAT MONEY IS APPROPRIATED
TO ENSURE THAT IT CAN SERVE.
THAT POPULATION
I'M SO WERE AS STRONG SUPPORTER
OF S. B. NINE TWELVE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OF BOTH OF YOU.
FOR INTRODUCING THAT BILL.
WE DO THINK THAT THE THE
PRIORITY AND THE EMPHASIS THE
VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING
SHOULD GO FOR PERMANENT HOUSING
AGAIN HOUSING THAT DOESN'T LIMIT
LENGTH OF STAY.
I THINK THAT DOES MAKE A BIG
DIFFERENCE AND.
JUST TRYING TO GET THIS
POPULATION THAT HAS SO FEW
RESOURCES.
I AM VERY LITTLE ACCESS TO
PERMANENT HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO
ACCESS THAT HOUSING.
I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE
HOUSING SHOULD FOLLOW HOUSING%
FIRST PRINCIPLES WHICH.
THIS ALLOWS THE HOUSING PROVIDER
FROM SCREENING OUT PEOPLE BASED
ON I'M CRIMINAL JUSTICE
BACKGROUND.
AND FINALLY.
ANY HOUSING THAT'S CREATED
SHOULD BE USING.
THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM IN
THAT COMMUNITY AND JUST TO
EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS IT'S
BASICALLY.
THE HOMELESS SYSTEMS.
A PRIORITIZATION AND ASSESSMENT
OF THAT INDIVIDUAL'S NEEDS FOR
HOUSING AND A PRIORITIZE PEOPLE
WITH THE GREATEST NEEDS
INCLUDING.
HISTORY OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
UP BACKGROUND TO.
BE PRIORITIZED FOR HOUSING SO I
WOULD SUGGEST ALL OF THOSE
THINGS. I DO THINK IT'S POSSIBLE
TO SET ASIDE SOME FUNDING FOR
THE POPULATION THAT WOULD BOMB I
THINK BE USED VERY WELL.
IT'S POPULATION.
SENATOR BELT OF.
DID YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS
OF APPLYING FOR LIKE USE
PERMANENCE AND ALL YES.
OKAY COMMIT KIT CAN YOU GIVE ME
LIKE.
.
AND OF THE.
.
TITLE MY PROCESS PROBLEMS THAT
YOU HAVE SO SOME OF THE
ENTITLEMENT PROCESS A LOT
OBVIOUSLY IT FIRST STARTS WITH
ACQUISITION THEY USE IT TO
ENTITLED OKAY. Y..
THAT'S WHAT YEAH I DID THAT I
WAS UNDER.
MY EARLY DAYS SAYS YOU KNOW THE
FIRST STEP START WITH
ACQUISITION IN MAKING SURE THE
PROPERTIES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR
THAT YOU.
SECONDLY IT'S SOME OF THE NAME
BE ISM
UNITY AND GET IN THE COMMUNITY
SUPPORT BUT COMMUNITY PROVIDERS
SUCH AS US AND OTHER GROUPS.
AND NONPROFITS CAN HELP GAIN
THAT SUPPORT WE'VE BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL FROM LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS BUT
THE ATTORNEY FEES QUITE FRANKLY
WITH THIS PROCESSES. ARE A
LITTLE MORE THAN NON PROFITS
CAN.
.
CAN PAY FOR WITH NO GUARANTEES
THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE YOU
SOMEPLACE SO THOSE ARE SOME OF
OUR BARRIERS AND THEN ALSO
HOLDING A PROPERTY TO GO THROUGH
THAT PROCESS WE IS NONPROFITS
CAN AFFORD. TO BUY A PROPERTY
AND TO HOLD IT FOR A YEAR A YEAR
AND A HALF TO GO THROUGH ALL THE
ENTITLEMENT PROCESS THAT IT
TAKES AND THAT'S WHERE WE DON'T
HAVE A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE
WITH FOR PROFIT GROUPS.
THAT HAVE STOCKHOLDERS THAT HAVE
THE ABILITY TO HOLD PROPERTIES
WERE LIMITED ON OUR ABILITY OF
TIME AND RESOURCES AND FUNDING
TO GO THROUGH THAT PROPERTY
PROCESS.
IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD LIKE ALL
PART OF THE HOUSING THING WOULD
BE.
ACQUISITION MONEY WERE THE MONEY
COULD.
THOUGH TO.
ACQUISITION REVOLVE RIGHT. SO
RIGHT. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
EXACT.
YOU'D BE LIKE OKAY WILL LOAN
YOU THE MONEY AND EXACTLY WHERE
THE LAND.
AND WE CAN DO THAT WE WILL.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IF WE
HAD A REVOLVING FUND WHERE WE
COULD GET THE ACQUISITION OF THE
PROPERTY WE CAN GET
CONVENTIONAL.
PLACE
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE UP FRONT
CAPITAL AND I CAN'T GO TO A BANK
WITHOUT A CONTRACTOR SERVICES IN
PLACE AND SHOW THEM THAT WERE
ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS PROPERTY SO
IF THE STATE WERE TO DO THAT WE
DID A REVOLVING FUND WHERE WE
CAN PAY THAT. BACK WE COULD GO
THROUGH THAT PROCESS EVER THINK
OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK IN
CALIFORNIA MAY WEAKEN.
WHERE IS FIGURE OUT A WAY OFF?
SIMPLE PROCESS AND THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL FOR US BECAUSE THOSE ARE
SOME OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES
AND EVEN WITH AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
WE'RE DEVELOPING SOME PERMANENT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT NOW
PROPERTY ACQUISITION IS ALWAYS A
CHALLENGE AS WELL.
I WAS GOING TO QUICKLY MENTION
THAT THERE IS A FUND LIKE THAT
IN LOS ANGELES AND SO I I DO
THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING.
FOR NOT FOR SPECIFICALLY THE
REENTRY POPULATION BUT FOR
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS
SO I THINK CREATING SOMETHING
LIKE THAT AS WELL WITHIN WHAT'S
BEEN DONE BEFORE GET YOU GET
THOUGH.
.
FOR MORE.
WORD AND SOME COMMITTEES DON'T
EVEN BOTHER.
YES
THEY ARE THEY DO THAT THE JUST
I'M SORRY I REALLY DO THAT.
THEY JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE A MEETING WITH WHOEVER
YEAH DID THE BUILDING.
YES BUILDING SAFETY.
LOCAL COUNCIL OFFICES IT WILL
GIVE YOU.
KIND OF A DIRECT YOU KNOW NOT
IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN
DON'T ATTEMPT IT.
SO WE WE ACTUALLY GET A LOT OF
PRESSURE FROM THAT AND ONCE YOU
SAY YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING THE WORK
THAT WE'RE DOING ESPECIALLY WITH
FOLKS THAT ARE ON PAROLE IN THE
COMMUNITIES IT'S A VERY
DIFFERENT RESPONSE. INDIVIDUALS
I I KNOW WHAT CHAIR WAS TALKING
A LOT ABOUT WHERE INDIVIDUALS ON
PAROLE OR PROBATION. THERE THE
COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND SO
THERE'S MORE OPEN DISCUSSION TO
THAT ONCE YEARS STARTING
PROGRAMS FOR INDIVIDUALS ON
PAROLE IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT
DISCUSSION. AND IT'S AN UPWARD
UPHILL BATTLE FOR US START
PROPERTIES LIKE THAT.
I THINK I THINK GO.
WHEN THEY SAY DON'T DO A.
THAT KIND OF HING IF WE SEE
DON'T LISTEN TO HIM NOW.
.
YEAH.
WELL IT WAS A YOU KNOW I I I.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL AFTER
ALSO.
.
I THINK I THINK WHEN THEY SAY
THAT IS.
.
BORDERLINE AGAINST THE LAW
BECAUSE THE CRITERIA OF THAT'S
RIGHT. RETURNING AT A
APPLICATION THEY HAVE A PUBLIC
HEARING ON RIGHT SO IT IT IS TO
ALL.
SERVILE IT'S DUE PROCESS WAS
RIGHT TO DO THAT.
AND.
MAYBE MAYBE THAT COULD BE.
.
SOME THE LOOK INTO THE PROCESS
THAT THE.
THEY SIR INFORMALLY TELL YOU NOT
TO BOTHER RIGHT THAT'S NOT
THAT'S NOT TOOK CORRECT THEY
SHOULD. THIS HAVE TO DO IN A
PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU KNOW WHEN THEY VOTE ON THE
PROJECT ABSOLUTELY. GIVE YOU A
FAIR HEARING AND YOU ABSOLUTELY.
AND WORLD WERE OPEN AND THAT WE
CHEN MANY HEARINGS LIKE THIS AND
HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
COMMUNITIES ARE CERTAINLY OPEN
TO AVING THOSE DIALOGUES
EVERYONE LOVES THE WORK WE DO
THEY JUST DON'T WANT IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR LARGEST
CHALLENGES AND AND NOW WOULD YOU
ARGUE THE VALUE OF THE WORK IT'S
JUST THEY DON'T WANT IT IN THEIR
AREAS AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST
SHALL.
ALL TO FORMAL PROCESS
RIGHT. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A
LEGITIMATE PROCESS IT'S.
IS THE DISCRIMINATORY PROCESS
RACKED.
OKAY OKAY THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR.
BEING HERE IN LAYING SOME OF
THOSE THINGS OUT SO THAT WE CAN
EITHER.
WHETHER IT'S OUR SUBCOMMITTEE
THAT MOVES FORWARD ON.
.
AND ALLOCATION THAT WOULD
ADDRESS SOME OF THESE OR WHETHER
WERE MODIFYING.
SAY LANGUAGE AND NINE TWELVE
FOR HOW THAT GETS DELIVERED. AND
THAT THIS IS BEEN VERY HELPFUL
SO. THANK YOU CENTERS SKINNER
AND SENATOR BILL CENTER ANDERSON
IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT
WE CAN SHARE WITH YOUR OFFICES
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT
WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT.
I'M HERE OR IN CURING THANKS SO
MUCH.
UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
UPON THERE THE FULL. BOTH
REENTRY SERVICES AND THE
HOUSING.
YEAH ANYONE'S WELCOME.
OKAY.
THEN WE WILL MOVE YEAH UNLESS
YOU HAD A PUBLIC ON OUT AHEAD
ISIS WAS GONNA STAY FOR THE NEXT
ITEM BECAUSE I THINK.
YES YOU'RE GONNA APOLOGIES
DURING YOUR.
YOU GOT IT.
ALRIGHT SO.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO ITEM TWO.
AND THEIR ISSUE TO WHICH IS THE.
INTEGRATED SERVICES FOR
MENTALLY ILL PAROLEES AND YES
SHARON REPORT YOU ARE THE
PRESENTER.
THANK YOU.
.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATORS.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD USE
EXISTING FUNDS TO CREATE MORE
SPORT OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
FOR PEOPLE ON PAROLE. THE
CURRENT IZMIT PROGRAM FUNDED
THAT.
OF ABOUT THIRTEEN MILLION
DOLLARS LARGELY FUNDS MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT FOR PAROLEES
WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.
BUT WHAT FUND SOME HOUSING
ASSISTANCE ASSISTANCE IS TIME
LIMITED AND IS ONLY FUNDED FOR
SHORT PERIODS.
OF GROUP HOME PLACEMENT OR OF
SHORT PERIODS OF.
INTRAMURAL SAYING.
HOUSING ASSISTANCE TOTALS
FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THE TOTAL
COST OF THE PROGRAM.
ACCORDING TO UCLA EVALUATION THE
CURRENT PROGRAM IS NOT ACHIEVING
ITS GOALS PURCHASE DEPENDS ONLY
RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
FOR AN AVERAGE OF TEN MONTHS.
AND ARE NOT.
ACHIEVING ANY SIGNIFICANT
REDUCTIONS IN RECIDIVISM FOR THE
POPULATION.
AS MOST OR ALL OF IS MS
PARTICIPANTS ARE ON MEDI CAL.
THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU WOULD
REQUIRE CDC ARE TO WORK WITH
COUNTIES TOWARD THE GOAL OF
ESTABLISHING AT LEAST ONE IMHO
YOU WITH ONE COUNTY. TO PROVIDE
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT THROUGH
COUNTY MEDI CAL MENTAL HEALTH ON
PROGRAMS.
FOR EACH COUNTY PARTICIPATING
THE STATE WOULD SAVE FIFTY TO
NINETY PERCENT OF THE COST OF
TREATMENT THROUGH FEDERAL
MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT.
THE SAVINGS WOULD BE REDIRECTED
TO PAY FOR THE HOUSING AND
SUPPORTIVESERVICES COSTS OF
IZMIT PARTICIPANTS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS.
UNDER MO USE WITH COUNTIES CDC
ARE WOULD PAY FOR THE.
NON FEDERAL SHARE OF MEDICARE
MENTAL HEALTH COSTS.
IF EVENTUALLY SERVING FOUR
HUNDRED PRO LEASE WE ESTIMATE
THIS WOULD TOTAL ABOUT ONE POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FAR LESS
THAN THE CURRENT PROGRAM.
CCR WOULD ASO PAY FOR HOUSING
IN SUPPORT OF SERVICES COSTS
WHILE THE PRO LEAGUE IS ON
PAROLE.
THE COUNTIES WOULD AGREE TO PAY
THESE COSS ONCE PARTICIPANTS
ACCEPT. OFFERS LONG AS THE
PARTICIPANT NEEDS THE OF
TREATMENT AND HOUSING.
AS STATED IN OUR PREVIOUS
PRESENTATION WE KNOW SUPPORT OF
HOUSING WOULD DRASTICALLY
IMPROVE THE OUTCOMES OF THESE.
OF PARTICIPANTS
AND WE BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE
HAS A ROLE IN ENSURING THIS
FUNDED PROGRAMS ARE ACHIEVING
SUCCESSFUL RESULTS.
THANK YOU TO SENATOR BELFORT
I'M PUSHING THIS PROPOSAL AND WE
URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU.
THE LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
MIDDLE HEALTH CAUCUS OR.
IN THEM THOSE SLICK CAMINO MIL
HELFER VERY INTERESTED IN THE.
BANKING OF THE COUNTY.
.
MENTAL HEALTH.
.
PROGRAMS.
.
YOU KNOW WE TAUGHT WRAPAROUND
SERVICES AND.
AND HOUSING FOR OUR.
REFUGEES.
AND THIS IS THE ONE PROGRAM THAT
HAS SOME WATER BUT KIND OF A
COMPONENT.
AND.
.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE PROGRAM
OR I LIKE TO SEE THE PROGRAM IT
ROUTE.
SO HOW HOW HOW CAN WE BETTER.
LEND US WITH.
SERVICES OFFERED BY COUNTIES
THEN ONE OF ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I DISCOVERED WAS.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM WITH
THE ROLE OF CARMEN.
AND.
THE COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH.
SERVICES O. IN TERMS OF PHAM.
THINKING THAT PAROLEES WITH
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
AND.
.
IS THERE AWAY WEAKENED ON HOOKED
UP.
OR AM THAT'S A REALLY GOOD RISE
OUT.
YEAH SO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
KIND OF ALL.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TURN YOU
KNOW MEDI CAL THERE'S.
I THOUGHT WE HAD A LAW THAT'S
THE.
I DON'T WAS
HEALTH AND WELFARE CODE.
SOMETHING SEVENTEEN THOUSAND OR
WHAT IT WAS.
CURTIS CHARO PER.
WHAT'S THE CODE SECTION.
SEVENTEEN THOUSAND RIGHT IS
EVERY EVERYTHING EVERYBODY HAS
TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO.
YOU SEE THIS RECENT. WELFARE'S
INSTITUTION CODE PARA SO.
EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO THE OF
SERVICES SO.
SO.
MY FORMER STAFF ANSWERED OKAY
SO.
SO SO.
.
IS ARE WAY TO A KIND OF UNDER.
ON KINK THAT OR HOW WOULD YOU
ARE YOU KNOW TO.
THIS PROGRAM SERVICE STAND
ALONE.
TRY TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE
REALLY WANNA DO BUT IT'S NOT AS
EFFECTIVE AS.
RIGHT SO I'M AND YOU KNOW I
THINK OUR POSITION IS THAT
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT IS BEST
PROVIDED BY COUNTIES IT'S BEEN
PROVIDED BY COUNTIES IN
CALIFORNIA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND WHAT THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS
DOING RIGHT NOW IS IT'S
BASICALLY SAYING FOR PAROLEES.
THE STATE IS GOING TO FUNDS
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND THEN
WHEN YOU'RE OFF OF PRO YOU
ACTUALLY HAVE A BREAK AND
TREATMENT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE
TO GO TO THE COUNTY.
EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THE
CONTRACTORS UNDER THE CURRENT
PROGRAM ARE ALSO COUNTY
CONTRACTORS PROVIDING MENTAL
TREATMENT.
SO IT'S A IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A
MISMATCH BUT I THINK THE REASON
WHY WE'VE ENDED UP IN THE
SITUATION AS BECAUSE THAT
COUNTIES.
LARGELY USE PROPOSITION SIXTY
THREE MENTAL SERVICES ACT
FUNDING AS THE. OF FUNDING
SOURCE FOR NON FEDERAL SHARE OF
COSTS SO IF SOMEBODY OF FOR
EXAMPLE HYMAN TO DON'T.
YES THEY HAVE REALIGNMENTS
FUNDING TO YES THAT'S TRUE BUT
REALIGNMENT FUNDING HAS. WE
CAUGHT OVER MAGICALLY OR. WELL
REALIGNMENT FUNDING AND I I'M
NOT A MENTAL HEALTH EXPERT BUT.
REALIGNMENT FUNDING HAS
DECREASED OVER TIME AS AS A PROP
SIXTY THREE HAS YOU KNOW OF
TAKEN EFFECT.
.
AND SO COUNTIES I HAVE A YOU
KNOW BASICALLY IF SOMEBODY
PRESENTS AS A PROBABLY.
THEY OFTEN WILL PUT THEM ON A
WAITING LIST.
BECAUSE
THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE IN EVERY
COUNTY WHO NEED MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT AND COUNTIES HAVE.
FUNDING OR CAPACITY TO SERVE SO.
IT'S A TRIAGE WAY OF YOU KNOW A
DELAYING TREATMENT.
AND OFTEN YOU KNOW SOME
COUNTIES.
WILL ACTUALLY TURN PAROLEES
AWAY.
AND SO THE STATE.
CDC ARE HAS BASICALLY. OF TO
THEIR CREDIT TRIED TO STEP UP
AND PROVIDE THIS IS NOT THE ONLY
PROGRAM THAT FUNDS MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT. UP FOR PEOPLE WITH A
SERIOUS THE MOST SEVERE MENTAL
ILLNESSES.
WE JUST THINK THAT MAYBE A
BETTER APPROACH IS TO WORK WITH
THE COUNTIES.
WE DO THINK THE STATE DOES HAVE
SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO FUND.
OF THE NON FEDERAL SHARE OF MINT
MEDICAID ALL MENTAL HEALTH A
TREATMENT.
AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY PROP
SIXTY THREE EXCLUDES PAROLEES
BECAUSE THEY'RE LEGISLATURE
RECOGNIZE THE STATE'S
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT
POPULATION.
I'M SO WE DO THINK THE.
CDC ARE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH
THE COUNTIES.
TWO. OF.
BASICALLY CREATE AGREEMENTS WITH
THE COUNTIES ON WHAT THE STATE
SHOULD BE FUNDING FOR PAROLEES
AND TRYS TRYING.
TO.
NOT BE POINTING FINGERS AT THE
OTHERS WHERE THE COUNTY IS
SAYING IS THE STATE
RESPONSIBILITY THE STATE IS
SAYING IT'S THE COUNTY
RESPONSIBILITY OR REALLY WORK
TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION TO
GET PEOPLE. INTO MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT FUNDED BY MEDI CAL
WE'RE LEAVING A LOT MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS ON THE TABLE FROMTHE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE WE'RE
NOT ACCESS. ACCESSING OUT MEDI
CAL TREATMENT FOR THIS
POPULATION OH SO.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT
ELIGIBLE JUST THAT JUST ON THE
APP.
THERE'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR.
FOR MENTAL SERVICES ACT AHLERS
BUT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE ABSOLUTELY
FOR MEDI CAL AND THOSE OF MOSTAR
ON OR ELIGIBLE FOR MEDI CAL
YEAH.
OKAY.
COULD COULD I ASK YOU THIS CALM.
IF YOU HAD TO PUT SOME
SWEETENERS INTO THE PIE.
YOU KNOW YOU MADE NICE NICE TO
APPLY FOR THE COUNTY YOU KNOW ON
THE. CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT
EVERYBODY GETS THEIR. P.
SURPRISE.
YOU KNOW.
.
IT WOULD WOULD YOU PUT A HOUSING
IN THERE TO MAKE A SWEETENER.
FOR AYE YES ABSOLUTELY I MEAN I
THINK YOU COULD HOUSING PAYING A
LITTLE POT FOR THAT.
THE MEDICARE NO.
AND IN FOR THIS HOW MUCH HOW
MUCH.
IF WE DID SOME LIKE DAT.
YOU NO WE HAVE LAKES THREE
HUNTERS SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE
SERVED WITH HIS.
MONEY HERE.
HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL PEOPLE COULD
BE HELPED OR HOW IT WOULD BE
MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THAT THREE
UNDER?
HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
BUT WE'VE ESTIMATED WITH A
THIRTEEN MILLION THAT'S
CURRENTLY BE IS BEING SPENT ON
IS MEANT THAT WE COULD SERVE THE
SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
THROUGH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS
WELL AS MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT.
SO YES I THE IN ANSWER TO YOUR
QUESTION SENATOR.
WE DO THINK THAT COUNTIES WOULD
BE VERY RECEPTIVE.
AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS
WITH JUST A COUPLE COUNTIES WERE
VERY INTERESTED.
IN THIS TYPE OF OF PILOT ON THAT
YOU'VE PROPOSED.
WAS LA COUNTY AND I KNOW YOUR
OWN SANTA CLARA COUNTY.
THERE SEEM BOTH INTERESTED IN
PURSUING SOMETHING LIKE THIS
BECAUSE COUNTIES ARE RECOGNIZING
I THINK MUCH MORE THAN THE STATE
IS THAT THIS POPULATION.
IS OFTEN RECENT EVADING TO JAIL
TO THEIR JAIL SYSTEMS AND THE
MOST EXPENSIVE. OF INTERVENTION
THAT.
HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE IN IN THE
MOST EXPENSIVE COSTS HOMELESS
PEOPLE ARE INCURRING IS JAIL
MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE.
CAUGHT COUNTIES PAY ENORMOUS
SUMS OF MONEY FOR.
TREATMENT AND THEIR JAIL
SYSTEMS AND SO AS COUNTIES ARE
REALIZING THAT MORE AND MORE ARE
THEY ARE CREATING PROGRAMS LIKE
THE ONES I MENTIONED EARLIER.
I'M SO I THINK IF.
IF CDC ARE ACTUALLY FUNDED
COUNTIES TO DO. THESE HOUSING
INTERVENTIONS THAT WE KNOW TO
WORK IN THAT COUNTIES ARE
AWESOME OFTENTIMES FUNDING
THEMSELVES.
THEN THAT WOULD BE A BIG
MOTIVATION FOR COUNTIES TO THE
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
I HAVEN'T REALLY XIN GO AHEAD
AND YOU SAID THAT SOME COUNTIES.
DON'T PROVIDE.
AND SOME DO.
WHY THEY JUST I MEAN THE?
SO I'M CONFUSED IS THAT THE
QUESTION OF WHY IS IT JUST
BECAUSE OF THE ADDED TO THE
COUNTY THAT SOME SAY THAT WE
DON'T CARE.
IT'S A STATE RESPONSIBLE WE'RE
GOING TO CARE OF THEM WORE.
I MEAN TO ADD I'M ASKING YOU TO
I THINK IN THEIR HAD PUT OUT THE
RESPONSES THAT YOU'VE HEARD OR
IS THERE ANY CORRELATION SEE.
SHARE WITH US THAT YOU'VE
WITNESSED.
OR AUTUMN I WISH I COULD GIVE
YOU SOME RATIONAL EXPLANATION I
DON'T KNOW THE REASONS I THINK
SOME COUNTIES I THINK COUNTIES
IN GENERAL.
D. ONE THE SERVE THE POPULATION
BUT THEY WANT FUNDING FROM THE
STATE TO TO PROVIDE THAT MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT TO THE
POPULATION.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY SOME
COUNTIES TURN PEOPLE AWAY IN
SOME COUNTIES DON'T.
I I'M GUESSING LARGELY HOUSE TO
DO WITH BACK COUNTIES
LEADERSHIP.
AND WHAT THEY'VE DECIDED TO
PRIORITIZE SO TYPICALLY WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN.
THEY'RE TURNED AWAY FROM THE
COUNTY.
PAGE THEY DO NOT GET THEIR THEIR
TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED TO.
IF THEY'RE NOT SO.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS CITIES HERE
HAS A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THEY
HAVE THEIR POOL OUTPATIENT
CLINIC PROGRAM. TO PROVIDE
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT TO THIS
POPULATION AS WELL AS IS MET.
BUT.
BEYOND THAT THERE ARE YOU KNOW
THOUSANDS OF PAROLEES WITH
MENTAL ILLNESS WHO ARE NOT
GETTING ANY MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE
THOSE BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS.
ARE FUNDED AYE IS MIP IS FUNDED
AT THIRTEEN MILLION I THINK THE
PO SEE SYSTEM IS FUNDED ABOUT
THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
AND OF IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH
MONEY TO SERVE EVERYBODY.
WHO NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE
TO A LOT OF THESE PRO THESE ARE
HOMELESS THERE'S A HUGE LINK
WITH MENTAL HALL OF PEOPLE WITH
SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS AND
HOMELESSNESS AS WELL?
SO IF THERE HOMELESS THEY'RE
JUST NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCESS
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT THAT'S
MEANINGFUL AT ALL ON THEIR OWN.
DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF NUMBER
SOME RECIDIVISM IN THAT
POPULATION. THAT HAVE BEEN
DENIED. OF WE DO HAVE NUMBERS
ENGINE NOT JUST GENERAL.
PEOPLE ON TROLL WHO ARE
HOMELESS ARE SEVEN TIMES MORE
LIKELY TO RESET OF EIGHT I DON'T
KNOW HOW MANY. SPECIFICALLY HAVE
A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS BUT I
WOULD GUESS THAT THAT.
OUR POPULATION EVEN AT HIGHER
RISK OF RECIDIVISM SIMPLY WE
TRACK AT ALL OR IS THERE A WAY
THAT WE COULD. BETTER DETERMINE.
OUR STATE DOES NOT TRACK THAT
THAT'S NATIONAL DATA SO THAT
WAS.
TRACKED THROUGH AN EVALUATION
RESEARCHERS SPECIFICALLY LOOKING
AT THE TWO POPULATIONS.
BUT OUR STATE IS NOT TRACK AND.
I DO THINK WE NEED BETTER. OF
ASSESSMENTS IN PRISON TO BE ABLE
TO EVEN KNOW WHO'S LIKELY TO
ECOME HOMELESS UPON ACCESS TO
PEROT.
YOU'RE WELCOME.
APOLOGIES I MISSED. THE
BEGINNING BUT WE SO IS PART OF
THE ISSUE THAT.
.
MY PREFACE IT THAT WE HAVE
RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION THAT.
BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OUR
COUNTIES MORE THAN PROBABLY MOST
OF US FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT HAVE
NOT FULLY UTILIZED THE PROP
SIXTY THREE FUNDS THAT THEY
HAVE.
AND. ARE YOU INDICATING THAT
THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE TO
FUNDING THEY HAVE FROM THAT
SOURCE.
FOR THIS POPULATION THAT'S
CORRECT THEY CANNOT USE THAT
PHONE IS THAT DUE TO THE WAY
THE.
INITIATIVE WAS WRITTEN YES THE
ACT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES
PAROLEES
OKAY.
.
RIGHT BUT YOU GIVEN THE I GUESS
ONE TRAINER.
BUT THE IT DOES PROVIDE THE
COUNTIES FUNDING FOR OTHER
POPULATION THAT THEY MIGHT.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET
OUT IS.
IF IT'S SO EXPENSIVE
FOR COUNTIES IF THIS SAME GROUP
IS BACK IN THE COUNTY JAIL. OR
EVEN WHEN THEY'RE ON THE STREET.
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE COUNTY
IS HAVING TO.
TO PAY WHETHER ITS FOR THE
MEDICAL SERVICES OR THE JAIL.
SERVICES ARE THEM IT.
.
WHY IT'S NOT MORE IN THEIR
INTEREST
I JUST DO THIS DIRECTLY AND AND
I'M NOT TRYING TO SHY AWAY FROM
THE STATE PROVIDING SOME FUNDING
BUT I'M ALWAYS?
I'M YOU KNOW IF IT'S IN THEIR
FINANCIAL INTERESTS WHY IS IT
THAT THEY ARE NOT.
WELL THAT'S A VERY GOOD
QUESTION I I CANNOT SPEAK FOR
THE COUNTY'S.
AYE IT CAN JUST OFFER THAT.
I WOULD GUESS THAT THERE
PRIORITY POPULATION WOULD BE
PROBATIONERS.
AND.
THAT MOST THESE COUNTIES HAVE
FAR MORE PROBATIONERS WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAN
THEY CAN CURRENTLY SERVES.
SO.
I DO THINK THAT.
THERE YOU KNOW JUST GIVEN THEIR
PRIORITIES PROBABLY TO PEOPLE
WHO ARE CYCLING BETWEEN.
THERE JAIL SYSTEMS AND
HOMELESSNESS AND.
OFTENTIMES PSYCHIATRIC
INPATIENT HOSPITALIZATION AS
WELL.
SO I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
DIRECTLY I JUST I THINK THAT
PROBABLY MOST FOR MOST COUNTIES
THAT HAVE CREATED PROGRAMS.
IT'S BEEN LARGELY FOR
PROBATIONERS WHO THEY'VE TRACKED
ARE COSTING THEM A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT
I AGREE WITH YOU IT'S A YOU KNOW
AS I WAS SAYING IN MY EARLIER
PRESENTATION. IT'S A FOR YOU
KNOW NONPROFITS LIKE ME IT'S
INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING ONLY JUST
SEE.
THEY'RE FRONT.
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS POINTING
THE STAY OF POINTING THE FINGER
AT THE STATE IN THE STATE
POINTING THEIR FINGER BACK AT
THE COUNTIES.
WE THINK THAT IT'S EVERYBODY'S
RESPONSIBILITY AND SO WHOEVER
STEPS UP TO FUND PROGRAMS.
SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER TO
SOLVE THIS ISSUE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WE DON'T HAVE
IT. WELL DID LA O. HAVE A
COMMENT ON THIS PROGRAM OR.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JONATHAN PETERSON WITH
THE LA THOUGH.
WE WERE S. JUST TO PROVIDE SOME
COMMENTS ON WHAT WE HAD SAID
ABOUT THE ASTHMA PROGRAM IN THE
PAST BACK.
A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS MOST
RECENTLY FUNDED.
WHEN WE LOOKED INTO THE COSTS OF
THE PROGRAM.
WE FOUND THAT BECAUSE IT WAS
RELATIVELY HIGH IT WOULD BE VERY
UNLIKELY THAT THE PROGRAM WOULD
BE A COST EFFECTIVE STRATEGY. TO
REDUCING OUR RECIDIVISM.
THERE WAS AN EVALUATION RELEASED
LAST YEAR THAT.
AS AS I THINK WAS ALLUDED TO
DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT THERE WERE
SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE
RECIDIVISM RATE OF PROGRAM
PARTICIPANTS.
AND SO IT'S LIKELY THAT IT.
IT'S STILL NOT A COP THAT COST
EFFECTIVE PROGRAM AS WE HAD
THOUGHT ONE IT WAS LAST IN FRONT
OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
YEAH YOU GET WHAT I DID YOU
UNCOVER IDENTIFY.
ANY.
IS IT A FLAW IN THE PROGRAM FOR
ITS LACK OF COST EFFECTIVENESS
OR YOU MEAN IN IN THEIR WORDS.
YEAH AT THAT.
IT WOULDN'T THEIR I THINK THE
REASON FOR WHY IT'S NOT LIKELY
TO BE A KARAKA AFFECT PROGRAM
IS JUST BECAUSE THE COST OF
PROVIDING THE PROGRAM EACH
PARTICIPANT IS SO HIGH. IT MEANS
THAT THE SUCCESS RATE HAS TO BE
MUCH GREATER THAN.
I IT WOULD FOR MAYBE ANOTHER
PROGRAM I THINK IT. EACH
PARTICIPANT IS ABOUT SOMEWHERE
BETWEEN TWENTY FIVE AND
THIRTY-THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PER
PARTICIPANT AND SO BECAUSE OF
THAT HIGH BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO.
GENERATE ENOUGH BENEFITS TO
JUSTIFY THE PROGRAM.
THE TROOPS ARE WEARING
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE IN
OTHER WORDS IN ORDER FOR A VERY
EXPENSIVE PROGRAM YOU HAVE TO.
PREVENT A GREAT DEAL OF
RECIDIVISM IN ORDER TO SORT OF
MAKE UP THE COST THE PROGRAM AND
SO IS A MAP WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT
COM GIVEN ITS EXPENSE AT THE
TIME WE THOUGHT THAT IT HAD TO.
YOU KNOW OFFSET A GREAT DEAL OF
RECIDIVISM AND THEN THE STUDY
THAT.
INDICATED THAT THAT THE
RECIDIVISM RATES ONE
SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT WE WOULD
NOTE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
VALUATION IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING
THAT IS MEANT WAS. RESTRUCTURED
SOMEWHAT AND IT'S NOT CLEAR
WHETHER OR NOT THAT IMPACTED IN
THE OF FINDINGS.
OR IF THERE ARE OTHER STEPS THAT
WERE TAKEN ARM TO CHANGE THE
PROGRAMS SUCH AS REDUCING ITS
COSTS ARE INCREASING ITS
EFFECTIVENESS COULD RESULT. IN
DIFFERENCES.
THUNDERBOLT ONE THING I NOTICED
WHEN I LOOK AT WHERE THE MONEY'S
GOING. IS THAT HALF THE MONEY IS
GOING TO ONE COMPANY IS A
PRIVATE COMPANY.
THEY DID THE SYSTEM WORKS IN
TERMS OF LIKE CONTRACTS.
WITH THE VARIOUS OF THE CRUISE.
SOME MONEY GOES TO COUNTIES A
THINKER.
I'M NOT SURE HOW BUT.
SOME OF THE MONEY GOES TO THESE
CONTRACTS.
OKAY THEIR CONTRACT WITH PEOPLE.
AND WANT CONTRACTED.
TALES ABOUT HALF THE MONEY TO.
IN THIS PROGRAM.
SO.
.
WHEN THEY DO CONTRACT MANAGEMENT
TO THEY EVALUATE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CONRACTS.
ME THAT'S NO.
IS THAT PART OF A CONTRACTUAL
PROCESS THROUGH THE.
REDUCE CONTRACTS NOTICED THIS A
CONTRACT.
LIKE A PERFORMER IN OTHER
PERFORMING SOME.
YEAH THINK A WHILE THERE IS SOME
OF THE CONTRACTS GENERALLY DO AT
SOME CONTRACT PERFORMANCE.
METRICS INCORPORATED INTO THEM.
I THINK.
I'M NOT.
SURE OFF HAND WHAT SPECIFIC
METRICS WERE INCLUDED TO.
EVALUATE THE PERFORMANCE OF
THIS CONTRACT BUT IT'S SOMETHING
WE COULD LOOK INTO AND GET BACK
TO.
SO.
PROCESS WERE.
SAY.
SOMEBODY THAT HAS PSYCHO.
NOTRE IDEA CAN COME AND MAKE A
PROPOSAL.
LIKE MAYBE MATCH WITH THE MEDI
CAL FUNDS.
OR DO THE CONTRACTORS USE THE
MONEY.
AND THEN GET TO SERVICES AND
THEN APPLY FOR MEDI CAL.
I DON'T NOT THE ON IT ON HIM THE
WE HAVE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY
WHETHER THERE WAS A SPECIFIC
PROCESS BY WHICH THEY COULD
COMPATIBLE BETTER IF SOMEONE WHO
BROUGHT IN. A PROPOSAL WITH
MEDICAL FUNDING WOULD HAVE
RECEIVED ADDITIONAL POINTS IN
COMPARISON TO.
TO SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU.
.
WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
M. THE CHRIS MARTIN HOUSING
CALIFORNIA A PROUD SUPPORTER OF
THE OF THE BUDGET REQUESTS IN
THE BILL. AMUSING TAKEN A MORE
EVIDENCE BASED APPROACH USING
EXISTING FUNDING AND TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF FEDERAL
REIMBURSEMENT THINK THIS A GREAT
APPROACH.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT.
RIGHTS WILL GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
SHOOT THROUGH.
THREE. OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL.
AND.
.
THANK YOU I'M MISTER WESLEY I.
THINK FOR JOINING US.
AND.
.
I HAD THIS ITEM ARE PUT ON THE
AGENDA BECAUSE.
WE.
.
AS SAT MY COLLEAGUES KNOW.
STATUS BEEN UNDER COURT ORDER
COLEMAN ORDER FLAT.
FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS SUCH AS
MEDICAL RECEIVERSHIP BY OTHERS
AND.
WE HAVE BEEN. A NUMBER OF OUR
FACILITIES HAVE BEEN LIFTED
FROM.
SOME OF THAT OVERSIGHT. THAT
WAS OUT OF OUR HANDS IN EFFECT.
AND EVENTUALLY.
.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL ALL BE.
.
BUT PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THE
OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
IS TO.
.
HELP US.
HOLDS OUR AGENCIES ACCOUNTABLE
OR RATHER THE DELIVERY OF OUR
SERVICES WITHIN OUR.
I'M CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
RATHER THAN US NEEDING TO BE
UNDER COURT ORDER FOR THE
PURPOSE.
WE ADDITIONALLY LAST YEAR
INCREASED OUR ALLOCATION TO THE
CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOR THE
DRUG INTERDICTION PROGRAM.
TO TRY TO HIDE.
INTERCEDE IN DO YOUR BEST TO
PREVENT.
ILLEGAL DRUGS FROM COMING INTO
OUR STATE PRISONS.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER RULED THAT IT
OVERSIGHT TO DAD IS A ROLE THAT
THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
CAN OTENTIALLY PLAY SO I
THOUGHT THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE.
TO HEAR FROM THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL IN TERMS OF WHAT.
.
WHAT TYPES OF RULES THE OFFICE
CAN PLAY? IN LOOKING AT THIS
HORIZON.
AND THEN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
BUT THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
SENATOR BILL SENATOR ANDERSON
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY.
.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU
WANT TO BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHAT
OUR OFFICE DOES RIGHT. ABSENCE
SO THE QUESTIONS FOR
SO.
THE THE.
OUR OFFICES PRIMARILY
RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING
TRANSPARENCY TO.
THE CORRECTIONAL SYSTEM.
WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR OUR
STATUTE OUTLINES HOW WE DO THAT.
OUR STATUTE IS.
FOCUSED SO THAT IT TELLS US HERE
ARE THE THINGS WE WANT YOU TO
LOOK AT.
AND THERE ARE AMONG OTHER
THINGS.
THERE'S ABOUT NINE THINGS THAT
WE ARE CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT.
SO WE ARE.
A.
WE LOOK AT.
THE WITH THE FIRST THING IS
TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR.
IF THERE ARE A PARTICULAR
POLICY ISSUE OR A PRACTICE THAT
YOU ONCE LOOK AND IT'S CALLED
AUTHORIZED REVIEW. HAPPENS A NOT
REAL OFTEN BUT A COUPLE TIMES.
ABOUT EVERY COUPLE YEARS WE GET
ONE I THINK THE LAST ONE WE DID
WAS.
TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN IF I'M NOT
MISTAKEN AT HIGH DESERT.
LOOKING AT THE.
.
AT THE ISSUES AT THAT PRISON.
.
WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING.
FOR VETTING.
WARDENS.
WE MONITOR THE CORRECTIONAL A.
OFFICE OF AN OFFICE OF INTERNAL
AFFAIRS AND THE DISCIPLINARY
SYSTEM.
THAT.
THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS.
OF. A BIG PART OF OUR OFFICES
DOING MEDICAL INSPECTIONS.
WE.
PROVIDE A.
WE HAVE A HOTLINE.
THAT WE MAINTAIN TAKE ABOUT TWO
HUNDRED FIFTY TO THREE HUNDRED
CALLS OR AN INCREASE IN A MONTH.
OF WHERE ANYBODY IN A PUBLIC A
CAN CONTACT US WITH AN ISSUE
THEY HAVE.
OF.
WE. ARE I AM CHAIR OF THE
CALIFORNIA REHABILITATION
OVERSIGHT BOARD WHERE. WE MEET.
ABOUT THREE TIMES A YEAR TO
REVIEW REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMMING MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
TO THE DEPARTMENT.
.
AND I THINK THOSE OF THE BIGGER
AREAS THAT WE THAT WE WORK CAN.
WE ALSO MONITOR USE OF FORCE IN
THE PRISON SO.
I HAVE A TEAM THAT.
LOOKS SAID EVERY USE OF FORCE
THAT'S REPORTED AND WE.
WE HAVE OUR OWN OPINION THAT WE
SHARE THE DEPARTMENT AS TO
WHETHER IT WAS WITHIN POLICY.
OUR FOCUS IS TO.
A MONITOR THE DEPARTMENTS
COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR OWN
POLICIES SO OUR OFFICE HAS NO
AUTHORITY TO TELL THE DEPARTMENT
WHAT TO DO.
WE CAN'T
A.
CHANGE THEIR POLICIES WE CAN
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WE
DO REGULARLY.
BUT ULTIMATELY THE. AUTHORITY
THAT WE WILL IS THE
TRANSPARENCY.
BECAUSE WHATEVER WE DO WE.
PUBLISH A.
PUBLIC REPORT.
THAT.
HOW WISE WHAT WE SAW WHAT OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AND?
?
CAN YOU ANTICIPATE A
POTENTIALLY.
.
ALSO EXPANDED ROLE BUT YOU YOU
COULD USE A DIFFERENT TERM.
.
AS WHEN THE RECEIVER LEAPS IN
TERMS OF THE.
MONITORING OUR OVERSIGHT OF THE
DELIVERY OF THE HEALTH CARE
SERVICES.
SO WHEN THE RECEIVER LEAVES I
DON'T SEE A CHANGE IN WHAT WE
ARE CURRENTLY DOING.
OUR STATUTE REQUIRES US TO
CONDUCT A METRIC ORIENTED
INSPECTION OF EACH
THE SILLY. FOR THE DELIVERY OF
MEDICAL CARE.
AND ABOUT HALF OF THE FACILITIES
HAVE BEEN DELEGATED BACK TO THE
STATE WE TREAT THEM NO DIFFERENT
THAN IF THEY'RE UNDER THE
RECEIVER WE ARE. OUR INSPECTION
PROCESS AND.
OUR.
.
INQUIRY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH
POLICY IN THE AND ALSO THE
QUALITY PIECE.
IS EXACTLY THE SAME
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT
AFTER IT HAS BEEN DOOR.
DELEGATED BACK TO CORRECTIONS.
I TALKED TO AN UNDERSECRETARY AS
OPPOSED TO THE RECEIVER.
SO CLEARLY THE OFFICE OF THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL EXISTED PRIOR
TO THE COURT CASE THAT PUT US
INTO THE MEDICAL RECEIVERSHIP
ZACHAREK.
ARM OR WAS IT LATER THAT IT GOT
ESTABLISHED.
WE YOU THE OFFICE ACTUALLY CAME
INTO.
INTO EXISTENCE IN THE LATE
NINETEEN NINETIES AND I ACTUALLY
BELIEVE WE WERE IN THE MEDICAL
ALREADY ALREADY RIGHT TO OUR
INVOLVEMENT IN THAT MEDICAL
SYSTEM.
IN IN LOOKING AT THE MEDICAL
SYSTEM.
CAME IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSAND
TWO THOUSAND FOUR.
TWO THOUSAND FIVE SOMETHING
LIKE.
WHAT PART IN WAITRESSES HOW WE
CAN HELP THE STATE FROM?
GOING BACK INTO SUCH
RECEIVERSHIP. AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE HAVE.
OF. YEAH THE APPROPRIATE.
.
WHATEVER CHECK SIR.
.
SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO.
I'VE.
YOU NOTED WE WE DON'T WANT TO
HAVE TO REPEAT THAT RIGHT.
IN AND.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT HAPPENS
WITH THE WITH MAINTAINING OUR
PROCESS AS IT AS IT EXISTS AND
REPORTING.
OF GIVE YOU A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
THE MADRID.
LAWSUIT WAS THE.
WAS THE USE OF FORCE.
.
ISSUES THAT.
A.
CORRECTIONS WAS.
UNDER LAWSUIT FOR TWENTY YEARS
RIGHT.
THAT LAWSUIT ENDED IN I THINK
TWO THOUSAND TENER TWO THOUSAND
ELEVEN.
BUT AFTER HEARING I WAS AT THE
AT THE FINAL HEARING.
.
THE COURT.
A.
REQUESTED THE STATE TO.
SURE THE COURT THAT.
THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL WOULD NOT GO AWAY WOULD
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT
PROCESS.
THIS IS THE STATE DID SO AND
GIVEN THAT ASSURANCE THE COURT
DISMISSED THE LAWSUIT.
AND WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR JUST
AS WE HAD PRIOR TO THE
DISMISSAL.
AND AND AND OUR PROCESS REALLY
DIDN'T CHANGE WE.
STILL LOOK AT THE SAME.
FACTORS FOR SELECTING CASES TO
MONITOR AND WE STILL. ARE
MONITOR THE SAME WAY WE DID WHEN
THE CASE WAS ACTIVE THE
DIFFERENCE IS THAT INSTEAD OF
REPORTING TO A SPECIAL MASTER.
UNDER LAWSUIT WE NOW PUBLISH
A
PUBLIC REPORTS AND A.
AND WE HAVE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS
WITH THE DEPARTMENT WHEN WE FIND
PROBLEMS.
SO IN WHAT WAYS ARE THE GIVEN
THAT.
.
THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
HAS CERTAIN.
.
ROLES THAT THE.
I THINK IT'S ON SENATE RULES
COULD DIRECT YOU TO ARE THOSE
SPEAKERS OFFICE.
ON THAT ARE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO
SAY THE STATE AUDITOR.
IN WHAT WAYS WERE.
THERE ARE WHAT WAYS IS THE
OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL.
.
LIKE AND NOT LIKE IN OTHER
WORDS.
IS.
AND HAVE WAS THERE. A BROADER
ROLLER BROADER AUTHORITY IN THE
PAST.
YES THERE WAS BROADER AUTHORITY
SO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE PRE
TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN.
A IN THE VERY FIRST PART OF THE
STATUTE IT SAID AND I'M NOT
GONNA QUOTED VERBATIM BUT
ESSENTIALLY THE ITS SPECTOR
GENERAL.
HAVE THE DISCRETION TO OPEN AN
INVESTIGATION ON AUDIT.
AT THE AT HIS DISCRETION HIS OR
HER DISCRETION
A ON ANY MATTER.
A.
THAT WAS REMOVED AND THE EFFORTS
OF THE OFFICE WERE FOCUSED INTO
THOSE ABOUT NINE ITEMS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.
JURISDICTION WAS LIEU WAS
LIMITED FROM LOOKING AT.
A.
AT ISSUES THAT WE DISCOVER.
TO.
MONITORING THESE THINGS THAT WE.
A THAT WERE DIRECTED TO MONITOR.
AND WHEN WE DISCOVER THESE OTHER
ISSUES.
WE SIMPLY GO TO THE DEPARTMENT
SAY WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS
ABOUT THIS YOU NEED TO LOOK AT
IT. AND
THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER.
AUTHORITY TO DIRECT DEPARTMENT
TO DO ANYTHING ON THOSE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE WILL GET A
COMPLAINT.
.
WE'LL GET A COMPLAINT THROUGH
OUR COMPLAINT PROCESS AND WHEN
WE LOOK AT IT WE SAY. THIS LOOK
SYSTEMIC WILL GO LOOK AT SOME
OTHER.
MAYBE IT CAME OUT OF ONE PRISON
WILL GO TAKE A LOOK AT ANOTHER
PRISON TO SEE IF IT'S IF THE
PROBLEM IS THERE AS WELL.
AND.
THE IF WE FIND THAT THEN WE WILL
GO TO AND I.
WEEKLY MEET WITH THE THE
LEADERSHIP AT CORRECTIONS AND
I'LL TELL THEM WE FOUND THE
SYSTEMIC ISSUE WE THINK YOU NEED
TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND AT THAT POINT WE LOSE
VISIBILITY ON.
SO WOULD IT WOULD YOU
CHARACTERIZE THAT IS A.
THAT THERE WAS.
.
THAT THE OFFICE HAD MORE
INDEPENDENCE.
INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY SAY THAN
IT DID PRIOR.
YES ORBITED PRIOR THAN IT DOES
NOW YES CLEARLY THERE WAS THERE
WAS MORE DISCRETION BY THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
TO.
.
TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING.
AS WE DISCOVERED IT INSTEAD OF.
IT BECOMING A PROBLEM THAT KIND
OF RISES TO THE LEVEL OF THE
SENATE WHO'D BEEN DIRECTIONS TO
GO LOOK AT SOME.
THEY IMPART A MY PURPOSE IN MY
ASKING IS THAT.
I'M.
I I DON'T NECESSARILY.
I DON'T THINK I WAS AND BUDGET
COMMITTEE AT THE TIME SO I
WASN'T NECESSARILY AND IT COULD
HAVE GONE TO A DIFFERENT
COMMITTEE BUT. INVOLVED IN ALL
THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT BUT
IF I TAKE JUST THE MEDICAL RULE.
ONE COULD MAYBE ARGUE THAT.
THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR
GENERAL'S ROLE WASN'T AS NEEDED
WHEN WE'RE UNDER RECEIVERSHIP.
WHILE WE DIDN'T RELISH BEING
UNDER RECEIVERSHIP THERE WAS AN
INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY. AND SO.
PART OF MY THINKING IS IN OUR AS
WE MOVE FORWARD. AND WE ARE
MOVING TO GET OUT OF
RECEIVERSHIP. WHAT?
WHAT?
?
STRUCTURES ME WHAT WE MAY WANT
TO PUT INTO PLACE TO HELP
PREVENT THAT WE GET INTO
RECEIVERSHIP AGAIN.
WITH WITH REGARD TO SPECIFICALLY
THE MEDICAL LAWSUIT PLOTTER.
I DO BELIEVE THAT.
THE.
.
HAVING.
THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL CONDUCT THESE METRIC
ORIENTED INSPECTIONS IS PART OF
THE EXIT STRATEGY.
I THINK THE COURT. MY OWN
PERSONAL OPINION IS I DON'T
THINK THE COURT IS GOING TO.
S. MISS THIS CASE WITHOUT HAVING
SOME STRUCTURE IN PLACE
TO MAKE SURE THAT.
THERE'S NO BACKSLIDING
HER SO.
THE AREAS THAT WE DON'T ENGAGE
AT THIS POINT WHERE THERE IS
COURT INVOLVEMENT IS IN THE
ARMSTRONG CASE THE. SO FOR THE
ADA.
ISSUES
THE COLEMAN WHICH IS THE MENTAL
HEALTH CASE.
.
WE WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THE
DENTAL.
CASE.
AND.
AS.
OF COURSE THE THE DENTAL.
ISSUES WERE THAT THOSE.
INSTITUTIONS CAME OUT OF
RECEIVERSHIP AND.
WE DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY ON
IN THAT PART OF IT EITHER IT'S
NOT PART OF OUR.
PART OF OUR STRUCTURE.
BOB.
BUT I THINK THAT. WE.
WITH REGARD SPECIFICALLY TO THE
MEDICAL PART OF THIS.
.
HAVING A.
AT AN INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR
GENERAL LOOKING AT THE MEDICAL
CARE IS PART OF THE EXIT
STRATEGY
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLEMAN OR.
OR.
THE EIGHTY EIGHT.
THE LAWSUIT.
I DON'T NO WHAT THEIR. PROCESSES
AT ONE POINT WE WERE.
THE JUDGE ASKED
THE PARTIES TO. A SEE WHETHER WE
COULD BE HELPFUL IN THOSE
LAWSUITS BY CONDUCTING
INDEPENDENT.
EXPECTATIONS AND BOTH PARTIES
SAID NO WE DON'T WANT IN THEIR
THE COURT SAID THEN WE'RE NOT
GOING TO ASK THE IDEA TO DO
THIS.
SO SEPARATE FROM THE MEDICAL
ISSUE. ON THIS I RAISED
INITIALLY WE HAVE.
.
WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF.
.
ILLEGAL DRUGS COMING INTO OUR
PRISONS AND.
LATELY MULE CREEK FOR EXAMPLE
WE HAD A NUMBER OF OVERDOSES.
AND.
WE HAVE INCREASED OUR ALLOCATION
FOR DRUG INTERDICTION.
.
AND IF IT MAY HAVE BEEN BEING
EFFECTIVE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT
WE'D HAVE MANY MORE OVERDOSES
THEN WE ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT
NOW.
.
BUT I.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AND.
CAN OPINE ON THIS OR NOT BUT
WHETHER.
THE THE OFFICE WHEN YOU
CURRENTLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO
LOOK AT AND EVALUATE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT.
AND WHETHER YOU HAD MORE THE
OFFICE HAD MORE ABILITY TO DO SO
SAY PRIOR TO TWENTY ELEVEN.
OR WHETHER YOU TO HAVE IT THERE
OFFICE POTENTIALLY HAS AS MUCH
NOW AS IT WOULD HAVE THAT.
SO SO I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT
IS.
.
THE WAY OUR OFFICE CURRENTLY
WORKS IS WHEN THOSE OVERDOSES
OCCUR.
AND AND A DEATH OCCURS WE GET
INVOLVED AT THAT POINT THAT'S
WHEN THAT'S OUR TRIGGER.
SO I SOON AS WE WERE NOTIFIED
THAT.
.
THERE WAS A DEATH INVOLVED WE
SAID I SENT PEOPLE OUT TO THE
PRISON THEY WERE ON SITE.
IMMEDIATELY.
AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THEN HOW
THE DEPARTMENT.
DEALS WITH THAT EVENT.
WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THE FRONT
END THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR
PURVIEW.
AND SO.
I'M GETTING.
LOOKING AT HOW THE DEPARTMENT
IN ARE DICKS THAT CONTRABAND
BEFORE IT GETS THERE IS.
IS.
WE HAVE NO VISIBILITY ON THAT.
.
AND AFTER THAT IN GENERAL ARE
DUE TO THE CHANGE IN TWENTY
ELEVEN WHO'S CHANGING TWENTY
ELEVEN I THINK THAT.
.
I THINK THAT.
PRIOR TO TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN.
IF WE AS A DEPARTMENT LOOKED
AND SAID WE THINK THERE'S A
PROBLEM OVER HERE WE WANT TO
LOOK AT IT WE'D SIMPLY WOULD GO
LOOK AT IT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE
THAT AUTHORITY TODAY.
.
CENTER VALKYRIE QUESTIONS STUFF
YOU KNOW STONE A MEDICAL IMAGES
TALK ABOUT MEDICAL INSPECTIONS
YOU DON'T WANNA.
WORDS CORRECTIVE ACTION.
THEN IN YOUR REPORT UNDER ROOM.
THE BLUEPRINT AT PAR YOU TALKED
ABOUT MORE LESS SO.
HERE'S WHAT THE GOAL IS IN THE
BLUEPRINT AND THEN HERE'S HOW
THE MET THOSE GOALS.
AND IT APPEARED TO ME THAT TO
HIM.
A THE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
GOALS AND.
MENTAL HEALTH GOES.
WERE UNDER UNDERPERFORMING AND.
IS THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
THE STAFF RESOURCES ARE HAVING A
HARD TIME HIRING STAFF FOR.
CAN YOU COMMENT ON ON.
THAT PARTICULAR PROBLEM BECAUSE
IT APPEARS IN REPORT ON I'M
LOOKING ON.
ON YOUR BLUEPRINT REPORT PAGE
TWENTY ONE YOUR ANNUAL REPORT.
WHERE IT SAYS THAT?
?
FIFTY NINE PERCENT OF THE
SUBSTANCE DISORDER TREATMENT
SLOTS WERE FILLED AND.
FIFTY TWO THE COG MBA RULES
THERAPY SLOTS.
I'M KIND OF WONDERING.
OKAY I CAN YOU HELP US FIGURE
OUT A SOLUTION ON HOW WE COULD.
MAKE THAT WORK BETTER.
SO ARMTHIS.
.
FIRST OF ALL MAY EXPLAIN WHAT
THE BLUEPRINT REPORT IS IT YEAH
IT'S A SNAPSHOT REPORT RIGHT
IT'S NOT AND.
OVER TIME.
KIND OF REPORT WE GO OUT TWICE A
YEAR.
THE THE BLUEPRINT MONITORING
WAS PUT IN AT THE TIME THAT THE
BLUEPRINT WAS
PROVED AND.
AS AN AND IT'S QUITE FRANKLY A
LITTLE OUT DATED AT THIS POINT
BECAUSE AS THEY. AS THEY.
THE DEPARTMENT MET GOALS BINDER
I GOT A FEW YEARS AGO IT'S YEAH
TWENTY TWELVE APRIL ONE THING
THIS YES.
ANDAND GO OVER TO MY OFFICE SO.
THAT PROVISION STILL EXISTS IN
OUR STATUTE BUT MOST OF THAT IT
THERE'S NOTHING TO LOOK AT
BECAUSE THE STATUTE SAYS ONCE
THEY'VE ACHIEVED THEIR GOALS.
THEN WE ARE DONE WITH LOOKING AT
THAT PART OF IT.
THE ONLY PART THAT IS STILL
ACTIVE IS IN THESE.
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMMING.
A AREAS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T.
MET THEIR GOALS OF SEVENTY
PERCENT.
RIGHT AND AND SO WE GO OUT
TWICE A YEAR AND LOOK AT THOSE
THOSE
PROGRAMS AND.
MEASURE WHETHER THEY'VE HAD
SEVENTY PERCENT ARE NOT ONCE
THEY ONCE THEY HIT SEVENTY
PERCENT WHERE EFFECTIVELY DONE
THERE'S.
FIRST LOOK AT.
AND WE ALSO DON'T LOOK BEHIND
THOSE NUMBERS.
TO SAY WHY IT IS. WHY THEY'RE
NOT MAKING THEIR? A THEIR GOALS
NOW SOME OF IT I BELIEVE IS
STAFFING SOME OF IT I THINK IS.
.
HOW THEY MANAGE THE INMATE
POPULATION TO GET INTO THOSE
PROGRAMS?
?
AND AND THAT SORT OF THING BUT
WE HAVEN'T DONE I DON'T HAVE A
LOT A DATA ON WHY I HAVE THE
DATA ON.
BASED ON THE BLUEPRINT STATUTE
ON WHAT WHAT IS THAT NUMBER AT.
IN DECEMBER WHEN I GO AND LOOK
REASON I'M ASKING IS I'M SERVE
LIKE OKAY I JUST SAY TO TO.
METRICS THAT I'M LOOKING AT WHEN
I.
LOOK AT THAT REPORT AND.
WELL I THINK FIRST ROUTE FIRST
METRIC IS ONE I GET THE BUDGET
REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
AS SCISSORS FORTY FIVE HUNDRED
NEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE MENTAL
HEALTH ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THEM
BILL HEALTH SERIOUS MENTAL
HEALTH PROBLEMS IN THE.
CALIFORNIA CORRECTIONS
DEPARTMENT THAT'S FIRSTLY
SECOND THING IS WHEN WE SEE.
ALL THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. IN
THIS REPORT WE JUST HEARD. ABOUT
LA THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA ARE FROESE THAT OF
SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL
HEALTH PROBLEMS.
SO I'M PUTTING TWO TWO TOGETHER
AND THEN I READ YOUR REPORT.
THIS SAYS.
ó THEY'RE NOT MEETING THEIR
GOALS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING
ON.
WELL SEE WHAT I WHAT I NEED YOU
TO DO IS HELP US.
WHY GIVE US SOME CORRECTIVE
ACTIONS TO?
THIS I THINK IT'S ALL
INTERRELATED WE HAVE TO DO A LOT
OF LITTLE THINGS IN VARIOUS
AREAS.
BUT ON THE INSIDE A KIND THINGS
LIKE WOULD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OH I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL IF WE COME UP SOME.
VERY IMPORTANT CORRECTIVE
ACTIONS THAT WE COULD.
OF UPGRADE.
.
UPGRADE OUR PERFORMANCE IN TERMS
OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE.
SO I AGREE WITH HAVING PROBLEMS
NOW WE'RE. SO I NEED YOU THAT'S
WHAT I NEED YOU TO KIND OF.
GUIDE A GUIDE A SENATOR.
CENTERS IN THIS COMMITTEE IN
THE.
GOVERNOR.
TO HELP US.
COME TO SOME SOLUTION ON THAT
WERE AND AND I AGREE WITH YOU
AND AND THE IT GETS BACK TO THE.
ISSUE THE SENATOR SKINNER
BROUGHT WHICH IS WHAT IS MY
JURISDICTION TO GO INTO A PRISON
AND LOOK AT SOMETHING NOW I CAN
GO IN AND I CAN LOOK AT ALL THE
THINGS THAT I HAVE AUTHORITY TO
LOOK AT.
BUT I'M NOT FUNDED.
RESOURCE.
NOR HAVE I.
REALLY THE A.
THE AUTHORITY TO GO IN AND SAY
I'M GONNA GO LOOK AT.
AT YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE
PROGRAM AND FIND OUT WHY YOU
GUYS HAVEN'T.
MET YOUR SEVENTY PERCENT GOAL.
THAT THE.
THE.
BLUEPRINT STATUTE THE TALKS TO
US ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
VERY NARROWLY DEFINED WHAT WE GO
IN AND DO AND SO.
.
THAT'S.
THAT'S ALSO WHY WE ARE MANNED
THE WAY WE ARE THAT WHEN.
FINANCE ALMOST FOLKS LOOK AT
WHAT ARE YOU REQUIRED TO DO.
THE JUSTIFICATION I HAVE TO GIVE
THEM IS.
I GO IN TWICE A YEAR AND I LOOK
AT WHAT THESE
WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE I CAN'T
JUSTIFY. HIRING PEOPLE TO GO IN
AND LOOK BEHIND THE NUMBERS AND
FIND OUT. AND DO ESSENTIALLY
WHAT'S AN AUDIT AND FIND OUT WHY
ARE YOU NOT MEETING THOSE
NUMBERS.
INSTEAD OUR INFORMATION GOES TO
CORRECTIONS AND WE SAY WHAT IT
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE
OF THE AUDITOR. DELUDE.
IS WHETHER IT'S A LIKE THEY
CENTER SKINNER ASKED A GOOD
QUESTION KNOWN.
ARE YOU ARE KIND OF AN ORDER
THAT HELPS US LOOK AT THAT STUFF
FOR ONLY CERTAINLY USED TO IT.
WE CERTAINLY USED TO BE WERE WE
ARE NOT ANYMORE.
.
AND.
.
IT'S IT'S REALLY ONLY MY
POSITION IS THAT WE'RE HERE TO
SERVE YOU WHATEVER YOU WOULD
LIKE US TO DUO. MY GUIDE IS
WHAT.
I'M.
WHAT MY STATUTE TELLS ME I CAN
DO? AND AND
GIVE ME THE GUIDANCE ON HOW YOU
WANT US TO DO THAT.
.
THE.
.
WELL I'M.
THERE I GIVE YOU KIND OF WHAT I
THOUGHT I. USED YOU TALKED ABOUT
YOUR.
BUT THEY ARE.
I I I I KIND OF.
A KIND OF CHAU DO THE METRICS
WHICH.
S. I I'M POINTED OUT A PROBLEM
OKAY A PROBLEM RIGHT THIS LIKE
WHAT'S GOING ON IT IN PREPARING
SOMEBODY.
TO LEAVE ESPECIALLY IN A
SUBSTANCE ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUE.
OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS A PROBLEM
CENTER SKINNER POINTED OUT
BECAUSE.
THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLETHAT ARE.
BRINGING DRUGS INTO THE PRISON.
AND.
SOMEHOW.
WHEN THEY LEAVE EITHER STILL
USING DRUGS FOR WHEN I GO OUT IN
THE COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE GONNA MERELY LOOK
FURTHER DRUGS AND.
STAR COMMITTING CRIMES AND NOT
IN RECEIPT OF IT BACK IN.
INTO THE THE COUNTY OR.
STATE AND WE DON'T HAVE THESE
EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS.
IN THE MEANTIME SO. SO SO ARE
OUR INTERACTION WHEN WE.
IT WITH FOR EXAMPLE THE NUMBERS
THAT WE HAVE AND WE INTERACT
WITH WE. TALK TO THE FOLKS WHO
DRP AND WE SAY YOU GUYS GOT A
PROBLEM YOU HAVE WHEN. YOU'RE
NOT GETTING THESE PEOPLE TO THE.
TWO THE PROGRAM'S NOT FILLING
THE SEATS.
SO.
.
YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
I DON'T HAVE DATA THAT I CAN
TELL ON THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO
DO.
THE THE MODEL THAT INVOLVED
AFTER TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN WAS.
YOU GO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND
THEN GIVE IT BACK TO THE
DEPARTMENT TO FIX IT.
AND.
QUITE FRANKLY I CAN'T I'M
POSITIVE THAT DRP PROBABLY KNOW
SO SAME NUMBERS THAT WE
PUBLISHED.
THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE PROVIDE
THE TRANSPARENCY WE MAKE IT A
PUBLIC REPORT SO EVERYBODY KNOWS
THOSE NUMBERS.
DOESN'T MEAN ONLY QUESTIONS I
HAD IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT
ON THIS.
.
ITEM.
ISSUE.
DIFFERENT OKAY.
.
EXTRA SLEEP PRECIADO YOU'RE
JOINING US.
AND.
WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM
UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING
COMMENT.
WE ARE HERE TO SERVE YOU SO IF
YOU HAVE IF THERE'S ANYTHING I.
URGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO ME AND
I'M HAPPY TO.
ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS
THAT YOU HAVE OR OR ADDRESSING
ISSUES THAT YOU.
GREAT THANK YOU.
RIGHT WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE
JUDICIAL BRANCH. AND IT'S THEIR
COURT REPORTERS IN FAMILY LAW.
IN I BELIEVE.
SHOW CASTRO.
FROM SCO USE GOING TO PRESENT
FOR AN ISSUE.
AS A RESULT THE BUDGET CUTS A
SHIFT IN PRIORITIES FAR TOO MANY
FAMILY COURTS IN CALIFORNIA NO
LONGER PROVIDE COURT REPORTERS.
AS A RESULT THERE SIMPLY NO
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS.
FAMILY THIS FRUSTRATES ACCESS
TO JUSTICE.
WITHOUT A TRANSCRIPT OF COURT
PROCEEDINGS LITIGANTS AREN'T
ABLE TO APPEAL THEIR DECISIONS
UNABLE TO DRAFT ORDERS
EFFECTIVELY AND UNABLE TO
ACCURATELY RECOUNT. WHAT
ACTUALLY HAPPENED DURING THE
COURT PROCEEDINGS?
ADDITIONALLY THE COMMISSION ON A
JUDICIAL PERFORMANCES STATED
THAT A LACK OF COURT REPORTERS.
SERIOUSLY UNDERMINES ITS ABILITY
TO INVESTIGATE AND PROVE
JUDICIAL MISCONDUCT CONVERSELY.
A TRANSCRIPT ALSO PROVIDES A
JUDGE A RECORD OF A PROCEEDING
ALLOWS THE JUDGE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES AGAINST ALLEGATIONS
OF MAY BE INACCURATE.
FAMILY OF OPERA PROCEEDINGS
INVOLVE MATTERS IMPACT FAMILIES
FOR A LIFETIME SUCH AS DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE CHILD CUSTODY CHILD
SUPPORT. AND THE DIVISION OF A
FAMILY'S ASSETS AND DEBTS.
THESE CASES ARE COMPLEX
CANNIBAL LARGE SUMS OF MONEY AND
DEMAND SIGNIFICANT LITIGANT IN
COURT RESOURCES.
THE ACCURACY AND TIMELINESS OF
OF VRBATIM RECORD IS A
PARAMOUNT IN THESE INSTANCES.
HAVING A TRANSCRIPT INSURERS
FAIR EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THE CURRENT SYSTEM
WE HAVE.
TWO TIERED ONE FOR THOSE WHO
CANNOT PERFORM ON A FORTY
PROVIDE PRIVATE ATTORNEY AND A
PRIVATE COURT REPORTER AND THOSE
WHO CANNOT.
IT ALSO ENSURES THAT SOME PEOPLE
WHO HAVE ACCESS TO A PRIVATE
COURT REPORTER AND PRIVATE COURT
REPORTER HOW THE BENEFITS OF THE
TRANSCRIPTS AND THOSE.
WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM HAVE NO
REFERENCE WHATSOEVER.
MORE THAN SEVENTY PERCENT OF OF
FAMILY LITIGANTS IN CALIFORNIA
ARE UNREPRESENTED. THEY DON'T
KNOW TO BRING THEIR OWN COURT
REPORTER AND LIKELY THEY CAN'T
AFFORD TO BRING IN A PRIVATE
COURT REPORTER EITHER.
THAT LACK OF STATE INVESTMENT
RESOURCES FOR COURT REPORTERS
PERPETUATES THIS TWO TIER
SYSTEM.
WELL THERE IS A STRONG NEED FOR
COURT REPORTERS AND ALL ON
PROCEEDINGSIS ESPECIALLY DIRE
IN FAMILY LAW PROCEEDINGS.
THE JUDICIAL COUNCILS ALKAN'S
FAMILY LAW TASK FORCE AFFIRM
THAT ACCESS TO THE RECORD IN
FAMILY LAW AS A SERIES ACCESS TO
JUSTICE ISSUE. AND MUST BE
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED ENSURE
THAT PARTIES UNDERSTAND IT CAN
FINALIZE A COURT'S ORDER TO
ENSURE THAT THE PARTIES RIGHT
TO.
APPEALS PROTECTED.
ADDITIONALLY A RECENT
CALIFORNIA.
APPELLATE COURSES SINGLY SUMMED
UP THE DIRE PROBLEMS WITHOUT
HAVING A COURT REPORTER.
THE COURT SAID THE ABSENCE OF A
VERBATIM RECORD CAN PRECLUDE
AFFECTED APPELLATE REVIEW.
COOKING THE TRIAL COURT'S
ACTIONS AND AN IMPREGNABLE
PRESUMPTION OF CORRECTNESS
REGARDLESS OF WHAT MAY HAVE
ACTUALLY TRANSPIRED.
SUCH A REGIME CAN RAISE GRAVE
ISSUES OF DUE PROCESS AS WELL AS
EQUAL PROTECTION A LIGHT OF ITS
DISPARATE IMPACT ON LITIGANTS
WITH LIMITED FINANCIAL ON MEANS.
CURRENTLY CALIFORNIA ONLY NEEDS
ABOUT HALF OF THE DEMAND AND
NEED FOR PROVIDING COURT
REPORTERS AND TO FAMILY
LITIGANTS.
TO ENSURE ALL LITIGANTS IN A
FAMILY WHERE PROCESS PROCEEDINGS
CAN ACCESS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM
AND PROVIDED DUE PROCESS IN
THESE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
MATTERS WE ASK THAT YOU FULLY
FIND ON COURT REPORTERS AND ALL
FAMILY LAW PROCEEDINGS.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE
TRIAL COURTS THE JUDICIAL
COUNCILS COME UP AN ACCURATE
NUMBER FOR THAT REQUEST.
WE HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SERIOUSLY
CONSIDER THIS AND THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THIS ITEM.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ARE NOT SIR HERNANDEZ
SOME HAVE THE CALIFORNIA COURT
REPORTERS ASSOCIATION STATEWIDE
ASSOCIATION BOTH OFFICIAL
REPORTERS AND ALSO THOSE.
WORKING DEPOSITIONS AND
FREELANCE AROUND A LOT WE ECHO
THE COMMENTS ARE MADE BY. MISS
CATCHER WE SUPPORT THIS ITEM
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON
A NUMBER OF YEARS SIDE BY SIDE.
THIS YEAR YOU AND OTHERS TO TRY
TO GET THIS FUNDED.
OUR COURT REPORTER SEE
FIRSTHAND THE BENEFIT OF HAVING
A REPORTER THEIR TRANSCRIPT
AVAILABLE FOR LITIGANTS
I AND OUR CORPORATE OR SEE
FIRSTHAND.
WHEN THEY'RE LITIGANTS IN FAMILY
LAW OR WALK AROUND THE
COURTHOUSE UNABLE.
I TIM TO FULLY DEFEND THEMSELVES
TO FULLY ADVANCE THEIR LEGAL
RIGHTS SIMPLY BECAUSE A COURT
REPORTER WASN'T PROVIDED THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FOUGHT AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL FOR A LONG TIME.
AND IT'S REALLY. NOT IT'S IT'S
TOO LONG AYE IT'S TIME FOR US TO
GO AHEAD AND FUNDED.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO PROVIDE FULL
ACCESS TO JUSTICE FOR ALL
LITIGANTS AND WE ASK THAT YOU
SUPPORT THE OTTOMAN IT'S PER.
MADAM CHAIR MAP BROUGHT HERE ON
BEHALF OF AYE IF PETEY
LOCAL TWENTY ONE WE HAVE COURT
REPORTER MEMBERS IN SAN
FRANCISCO AND WE SUPPORT THIS
MEASURE THANK YOU.
AND I DIDN'T ASK YOU ANY
QUESTIONS
BEFORE I TOOK PHOTO COMET. OR A.
THANK YOU.
I WILL GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM WHICH
IS.
THE UNFUNDED APPELLATE JUDGE
SHIPS.
AND.
WE HAVE MATERIAL BEFORE US
THERE'S NO PRESENTER ON THIS.
.
MORE BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION.
THE.
.
THE VIEW THAT.
.
THAT ARE SEVERINO AND RIVERSIDE
COUNTIES.
.
DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBER OF A.
PELLET. JUDGES THAT.
MIGHT BE CONSIDERED.
NECESSARY IN THE. DUE TO PASS
STATUTES THAT TIME.
.
INDICATED.
THE NUMBER EIGHT IT BASICALLY A
CERTAIN NUMBER OF JUDGES TO
PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE JUDICIARY
SYSTEM SO.
IT'S MORE ON.
BACKGROUND ITEM CASE WE DECIDE
TO.
.
MOVE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN
OUR FINAL DELIBERATIONS AS WE
CLOSED DOWN THE BUDGET.
.
THAT'S.
SEC.
OR IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT
ON THE ITEM.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
SENATOR BOW I'M ELIZABETH
ESPINOSA ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS IN THE COUNTY OF
RIVERSIDE THE COUNTY IS
CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED. I'M
EFFORTS TO BRING MORE RESOURCES
TO BEAR IN THE INLAND EMPIRE A
AS YOUR AGENDA POINTS OUT FOUND
THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE THE NEED
IN THE COUNTY RIVERSIDE HAS BEEN
WELL DOCUMENTED THROUGH THE
STATE WIDE JUDICIAL NEEDS
ASSESSMENT BOTH AT THE SUPERIOR
COURT LEVEL. AND FOR THE
APPELLATE COURT JUSTICE THAT
WOULD BE INDICATED BY THE STUDY.
AND WE URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS
POSITIVELY THANK YOU.
YES SENATOR RALPH.
ONE DAY I GOT CONFUSED ABOUT OF.
WHAT IS THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT
SHOW THE NUMBER OF JUDGES
IS THAT?
THIS YEAR SEVEN.
FOR THE COUNTY RIVERSIDE
SPECIFICALLY. THAT THERE'S AN
ENORMOUS GAP STATEWIDE IT'S OVER
A HUNDRED IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN I
HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT NUMBER
SPECIFICALLY. AT THAT GOT
SUPERIOR COURT JUDGE SHIP LEVEL
THE APPELLATE COURTS OBVIOUSLY
THAT'S A.
SYSTEM THAT.
OR THIS IS FOR THE APPELLATE
COURTS I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD
INDICATE ONE ADDITIONAL JUSTICE
POSITION FOR THE FOURTH DISTRICT
THE VOTE THE DIVISION OF THE
FOURTH DISTRICT THAT SITS.
OUT
IT'S THE TO CANCER SO TO
COUNTIES RIVERSIDE AND SALMON
MEDINA.
YEAH DATA.
ALRIGHT OUR NEXT ITEM ISSUE SIX
IS.
A.
PROPOSAL THAT WOULD HAVE
TECHNICAL CHANGES TOWARD VEHICLE
CODE IN ORDER TO BRING THE STATE
INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE US
SUPREME COURT RULING IN
BURCHFIELD VERSUS NORTH DAKOTA.
WHICH RELATES TO DRIVING UNDER
THE INFLUENCE.
AND WHAT.
.
WHAT?
OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
ARE ABLE NOT ABLE TO DO IN TERMS
OF EITHER AND.
.
BLOOD TESTS WRITTEN REQUESTS
HERE REQUIRING BLOOD TESTS AND
OTHER SUCH THINGS TO DETERMINE.
THE.
.
DO YOU AYE STATUS.
ON.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTER ON
IT WE'RE GONNA HOLD THE BOWL THE
BILL SKEWS ME THE ITEM OPEN.
BUT THE STAFF REPORT DOES
DESCRIBE WHAT THE PROPOSED
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE WE DO. IN
RELATIONSHIP TO BRING IN THE
STATE INTO.
.
WHO ALIGNMENT WITHOUT VERGE
FIELD VERSUS NORTH DAKOTA
RULING?
?
AND UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS US
IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THIS ITEM.
AND JERRY AGNOSTIC HERNANDEZ ON
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS
FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
I THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE
LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY ARE OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE
BEEN LEGISLATIVE.
PROPOSALS RELATED TO THIS ISSUE
ON O THE ONE HAND A SIMPLE
TECHNICAL. CHANGE TO MAKE CLEAR
THAT CRIMINAL PENALTIES ARE NOT
AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE WHO
REFUSES A BLOOD TEST. IS IN
FACT.
ACCEPTABLE A WEEK THAT IS THE
CURRENT LAW NOW AS A RESULT OF
THE VIRTUAL DECISION CRIMINAL
PENALTY SHOULD NOT BE IMPOSED ON
INDIVIDUAL DRIVERS. WHO ARE
ARRESTED FOR DUI FOR REFUSING
BLOOD HOWEVER?
HOW WE SEE VARIOUS VERSIONS OF
THE LANGUAGE THAT'S OUT THERE
FOR THIS BUDGET ITEM? AND SO WE
NEED TO SEE THE FINAL VERSION.
WE ANY CHANGE BEYOND THAT IS
PROBLEMATIC IN PART BECAUSE BOTH
BURCHFIELD AND MCNEALY DECISION.
HAVE PUT CALIFORNIA'S IMPLIED
CONSENT FOR BLOOD DRAWS LAW INTO
QUESTION.
THERE CANNOT BE ANY OTHER
CHANGES SPEAK UNTIL WE RESOLVE
WHAT IN FACT THAT MEANS.
UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW ANYONE HAS
A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
AGREES TO A BLOOD DRAW UNDER
MCNEALY.
BLOCKING FORCE OFFICERS ARE
REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A WARRANT.
THOSE ARE NOW IN CONFLICT I ALSO
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE
VIRTUAL CASE IN A COMPANION
CASE.
THOSE STATES HAVE LAWS THAT
PROHIBIT
LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM FORCIBLY
DRAWING BLOOD FROM DRIVERS
UNLESS IT IS AN INJURY OR DEATH
INVOLVED IN THE DO YOU Y. OR
SOME OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE.
WE DO NOT HAVE THAT STATUTE IN
CALIFORNIA.
SO ANY CHANGES TO OR TWO BLOOD
DRAW LAW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
WHETHER OR NOT. NOW THAT A
WARRANT IS REQUIRED.
WHETHER OR NOT OUR LAWS ARE
FOLLOWING THAT KEY COURT
DECISION AND WHEN THE BILL
CONTAINING THIS CHANGE WENT
THROUGH LAST YEAR.
IT UNFORTUNATELY TOUCHED ON
ALLOF THESE ISSUES SO AGAIN WE
HAVE
TO SEE THE FINAL LANGUAGE IF
IT'S SIMPLY MAKING CLEAR ONLY
ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTIES ARE
AVAILABLE. I THINK WE CAN LIVE
WITH THAT HAVE TO SEE IT. BUT IF
IT TOUCHES ANYTHING ELSE IS THE
VERSION THAT I SAW.
DEAD THEN THAT WOULD BE VERY
PROBLEMATIC AGAIN WE HAVE TO
RESOLVE WHETHER THE WARRANT
REQUIREMENT ISRAEL IN CALIFORNIA
OR NOT.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS THAT WE
HAVE SOME CONCERNS AS WE
UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSAL.
ALRIGHT ANY OTHER PUBLIC
COMMENT.
OKAY.
SEEING NONE WILL GO TO ISSUE
SEVEN THE STATE PENALTY FUND
ADJUSTMENTS.
AND.
THAT ONE WILL HAVE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AND THEN ILIO COMMENT.
SO WE'LL START WITH BERMAN
FINANCE.
GOOD AFTERNOON JOSH DUGGAR
DEPARTMENT FINANCE HOME SO. THIS
ITEM WAS REALLY A CONTINUATION
OF.
CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL FISCAL
YEARS WE'VE CONTINUED TO MONITOR
THE. REVENUES RECEIVED IN THE
STATE PENALTY FUND AND TO GIVE
YOU A SENSE OF THE CONTINUING
DECLINE THAT WE'VE SEEN AND
BETWEEN TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN
SIXTEEN AND TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
SEVENTEEN THE ACTUAL REVENUES
RECEIVED IN THE FUND HAVE.
DECREASED BY AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN
PERCENT AND WHEN COMPARING
SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN BACK TO TWO
THOUSAND TWELVE THIRTEEN OVER
THAT TIME THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN
A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT DECLINE IN
REVENUE. SO GIVEN THE DRAMATIC
STATE OF DECLINE.
THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET LAST YEAR
IN THE FINAL BUDGET INCLUDED A
PLAN THAT MADE A SERIES OF
DIFFERENT CHANGES TO THE STATE
ONLY FUND STRUCTURE IN THE
PROGRAMS FUNDED OUT OF IT. ON
SOME PROGRAMS WHERE.
MOVED OUT OF THE FUND AND AS
NOTED IN THE AGENDA FUNDED ON A
ONE TIMER LIMITED TERM BASIS
WITH GENERAL FUND. AND THIS
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET IS REALLY JUST
CONTINUES.
BASED ON THAT PLAN AND BASED ON
THE CONTINUING DECLINE OF
REVENUES IMPLEMENTS AND
ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS TO CERTAIN
PROGRAMS FUNDED WITHIN THE
PENALTY FUND. AND.
IN IMPLEMENTING THOSE REDUCTIONS
WE'VE CONTINUED WITH THE SAME
GENERAL PRIORITIZATION THAT WAS
INCLUDED IN LAST YEAR'S.
PROPOSAL WHICH.
WHILE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE A
REDUCED.
GENERALLY PRIORITIZE IS LAW
ENFORCEMENT TRAINING PROGRAMS
AND TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE
MAINTAINS FUNDING FOR VICTIMS
PROGRAMS.
.
THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL
ALSO SHIFTS AND EXPENDITURES IN
THE BUDGET YEAR FOR THE DRIVERS
TRAINING PROGRAM OUT OF THE
STATE AND ONLY FUND IN INTO THE
MOBILE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCOUNT.
AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO DECLINE URGED TO CONTINUE TO
MONITOR THAT THE DECLINE IN
REVENUES AND WOULD PROVIDE AN
UPDATE WITH THE RELEASE OF THE
MAY REVISION.
FOR ANY CHANGES THAT ARE
NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN SOLVENCY.
BEFORE I CALL ON THE LA O. I
THINK.
THERE'S.
.
IS ONE OF THESE.
.
PROBLEMS IT'S BOTH WELCOME AND
PROBLEMATIC IN THAT.
PROBABLY NO THAT DOESN'T LEAVE
YEAH YEAH WE KNOW THAT.
.
THAT A LOT OF THESE.
FINDS THAT WE WE.
USE TO GET MORE REVENUE FROM.
THAT FUNDED THESE THINGS.
WERE MODE DISPROPORTIONATELY HIT
LOW INCOME PEOPLE IN WERE QUITE.
A QUITE DAMAGING FROM THAT
POINT OF VIEW AND REGRESSIVE.
AND.
WE NOW IN THE DUE TO VARIOUS
ACTIONS HAVE REVISED MUCH OF
THAT WHICH IS PART OF WHY. ARE
FUNDS TO AND. THIS.
ACCOUNT ARE LOWER IN YET OUR
POST TRAINING IS VERY ESSENTIAL.
AND SO TO HAVE VERY ESSENTIAL
PROGRAMS BE FUNDED OUT OF A.
FIND SOURCE THAT WE KNOW BECAUSE
OF OTHER ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN IS
GOING KNEW EITHER. CONTINUE TO
GO DOWN OR AT LEAST NOT GO UP.
BY.
SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE WE'RE
GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT AND
REMEDY.
IN A ROOF DEPARTMENT FIND
SITTING. NO.
NO REAL ADDITIONAL COMMENT
OTHER THAN.
IT'S CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE
ACROSS MULTIPLE FUNDS NOT JUST
THE STATE COUNTY FUND AND YOU
KNOW WE DO OUR BEST TO MONITOR
THOSE TRENDS IN. A WAY THE
VEREEN A TRADE OFFS WITH EACH OF
THE PROPOSALS TERM AND REALLY
LOOKED HAVE LOOKED OVER THE
LAST.
SEVERAL YEARS FOR A SOLUTIONS
AND THOSE FUNDS TO MAINTAIN
SOLVENCY AND SOME OF THAT HAS
INCLUDED GENERAL FUND BACKFILL
SOME OF THAT HAS. A LOOK FOR
ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES AND
AND SOMETIMES HAS ALSO INCLUDED
A REDUCING SOME PROGRAMS THAT.
YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE HEARD ARE
QUITE VALUABLE PROGRAMS AND IT
IS A JUST. A CHALLENGING
SITUATION AND.
WAYNE OF THE TRADE OFFS OF EACH
OF THOSE DECISIONS.
ALEJO.
LEAVE AT THE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE.
FIRST PACIFIC LEE RELATED TO
THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IT IS
GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
HAS BEEN DONE IN PRIOR YEARS WE
DO RECOMMEND THAT THE
LEGISLATURE JUST EVALUATE.
THE SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS TO MAKE
SURE IT REFLECTS THE
LEGISLATURE'S PRIORITIES AND SO
THE LEGISLATURE FOR EXAMPLE
MIGHT WANNA JUST SOME OF THOSE
DOLLAR AMOUNTS. TO FREE UP MONEY
FOR OTHER PROGRAMS OF FOR
EXAMPLE THIS COMMITTEE HAS HEARD
REQUEST RELATED HIT CALVI IP
WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS
THAT WAS. SUPPORTED ON A ONE
TIME BASIS USING USING GENERAL
FUND.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO
RECOMMEND IS A LEGISLATURE TO
CONSIDER ACTUALLY SPECIFYING HOW
PROGRAM SHOULD IMPLEMENT
REDUCTIONS
SO FOR EXAMPLE THERE MIGHT BE
CERTAIN PRIORITIES THAT THE
LEGISLATURE WANTS TO ENSURE
CONTINUES TO BE. AN IMPLEMENTED
AND CURRENTLY DEPARTMENTS WHO
GENERALLY HAVE COMPLETE
FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THEY
ACCOMMODATED.
JESS.
IN LINE WITH MADAM CHAIR IS
COMMENTS ABOUT THE LARGER ISSUE
THIS IS ONE OF THE FUNDS.
INCLUDING OTHER FINDS INCLUDE
THE CORE CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNTS
WHICH THIS COMMITTEE HAS HEARD
THE O'JAYS DNA IDENTIFICATION
FINE EXCITER. THAT IS SUPPORTED
BY CRIMINAL FINING FEE REVENUE.
AND SO.
THERE IS A NEED FOR A BROADER
LONGER TERM PLANNED TO KIND OF A
DRESS ALL OF THE VARIOUS
PROGRAMS AT THE STATE AND LOCAL
LEVEL WHICH ARE SUPPORTED BY
THESE DOLLARS. I WON'T GET INTO
IT BUT WE DID ACTUALLY RELEASED
A REPORT ON IN TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM OUR OFFICE ABOUT HOW
LEGISLATURE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
THEY WANT THE PURPOSE OF FINES
AND FEES TO BE IN THAT CAN
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE HOW DO WE
THINK ABOUT ABILITY. TO PAY
ACCEPT IRA.
AND THEN SEPARATELY FROM THAT
HOW DO WE THEN USE THE MONEY AND
TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
WE BACK RECOMMENDED ACTUALLY
ELIMINATING ALL OF THE STATUTORY
FORMULAS THAT REALLY WOULD.
DIRECT FUNDING IN TERMS OF THE
FEE IS CHARGED FOR THIS PURPOSE
AND THEN HAS TO GO TO THIS FUND
FOR THEM THIS PURPOSE.
WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND
ELIMINATING THE STATUTORY
FORMULAS DEPOSITING IT ALL INTO
THE GENERAL FUND.
AND JUST FOCUSING ON
APPROPRIATING THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY.
THAT IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT
PROGRAMS SUCH AS POST EXCITER ON
SO THAT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES
NEEDED AND ARE NOT CONSTRAINED
BY THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT IS
AVAIL FROM THIS
TYPE OF. READINESS STILL ALL
EVEN AT THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE
FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AT IF THIS
OMMITTEE OR IN OTHER MEMBERS
ARE INTERESTED IN FURTHER
DISCUSSION ABOUT.
YES JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE AT
ONE WAY FOR MANY YEARS DOESN'T
NECESSARILY MEAN WE HAVE TO O
IT THAT WAY. INTO THE FUTURE.
.
CENTER MELANIE COMMENTER
QUESTIONS.
.
I THINK WE CAN JUST PICK TO
CANADA PEROT LIKE WE DID KIND OF
LAST YEAR RESERVE LIKE.
BROUGH BUNCH OF.
GENERAL FUND MONEY IN THEIR
EARLY.
.
BUT TOM.
IF I TO SAY THE CRIMINAL FINE
IN.
.
THE REVENUE.
GO TO VICTIMS SERVICE SAY IF
YOU'RE GONNA JUST LET IF YOU GOT
A NARROW IT MAYBE.
BUT OTHERWISE I AGREE WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S APPROACH.
I MEAN YOU KNOW IT'S PROBABLY
EASIER THE BUDGET THAT WAY
RIGHT.
THOSE WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THESE
PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF THEIR
VALUE.
MAKE MADE MAKE VALUE.
.
ALLEN. VALUE JUDGMENTS.
.
PERFORMANCE JUDGMENTS ON THE
PROGRAMS.
SO I OF.
I LIKE THAT KIND OF APPROACH.
OTHERWISE WOULD IT IS ANOTHER
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE JUST SAY
OKAY.
THESE ARE FRIES.
THOUGH WE SHOULD USE THE MONEY
FOR THE VICTIM.
CATEGORIES.
BUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT
THAT.
MAYBE NOT.
VICTIM COMPENSATION WOULD.
WHAT DETERMINES THAT IT COULD GO
UP IT COULD GO DOWN MEANNESS
HARD TO PREDICT RIGHT?
IS THERE RIGHT WE CAN'T PREDICT
AT THIS VERY DIFFICULT.
YEAH AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A
CHART THAT I BELIEVE WAS THAT
COMPLETED BY THE A O. BUT. ALSO
KINDA HIGHLIGHTS THE COMPLEXITY
OF EACH OF THE PROGRAMS HAS.
MAYBE NOT EACH OF THEM BUT MANY
OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE ALTERNATIVE
FUNDING SOURCES TO WHICH FURTHER
COMPLICATES WHEN WAYNE THESE
DECISIONS OF WHERE TO AND.
SOME.
REAL RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS AND.
YOU KNOW PREDICTING SOME OF THE
FEDERAL FUND REVENUE FOR SOME OF
THOSE PROGRAMS CAN BE DIFFICULT
I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE
VICTIMS PROGRAMS HAS RECEIVED A.
ADDITIONAL A SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENT FROM THE FEDERAL
LEVEL I'M COMING SHORTLY AND
ACTUALLY LAST YEAR AS WELL SO.
ARE YOU I WOULD PUT MY IF I TO
PICK AN OPTION I JUST DO THE
IDEA THAT.
.
THE MONEY INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND SOMEHOW.
MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME.
POSSIBLY GERALD MORE NOT
SPECIFIC NEXUS TO FUNDS WITH
JUST SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING
THAT.
THERE BE SOME KIND ACCESS.
RELATIONSHIP THE CROW JUSTICE
AREA.
THE SUN JUST IT DOESN'T JUST GO
AWAY TO SOME OTHER STUFF.
YOU KNOW
THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO
THAT.
ROBBIE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT
TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO FIND.
.
CRIMINALS AND.
THEN THE MONEY GOES TO SOME
OTHER PROGRAMMERS NOT RELATED TO
CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
THE VICTIMS.
SO I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I THINK THAT SAID I DON'T
KNOW IF WILL. TRY TO TAKE IT ON
IN THIS HAVE BUDGET BUT I THINK
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY.
WE SHOULD PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT
WAY DE.
ADDRESS THE STATUTES BECAUSE IT
GIVES THE ILLUSION.
THAT WERE FINDING THEM
ADEQUATELY BECAUSE WE HAVE
STATUTES THAT SAYS THIS MONEY
WILL GO TO THIS PURPOSE WHEN.
WE KNOW IN MANY CASES WERE NOT
SO.
EN I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CUTS
AND BOOTS PUT YEAH YEAH SO I
THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE
DEFINITELY MOVED TO VISIT NINE.
WORLD.
HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO IT
BEFORE THE.
.
OR JUNE FIFTEENTH DEADLINE BUT
IT INCLUDES.
DEFINITELY ASK STAFF TO KEY
SOMETHING NOT SO MAYBE MAYBE
MADAM CHAIR MAYBE MAYBE.
.
JESSA MIGHT BE
COME UP WITH WHAT THE ADEQUATE
BUDGET
THE.
WHETHER IT'S WEASEL BUDGET.
AB HAS COME THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT WHAT WOULD BE A AN ADEQUATE
PLEDGE RAISED ON WHAT YOU THINK.
IS THE NEED FOR THOSE PROGRAMS.
AND
TERMS OF.
THE VALUES THAT HAVE.
COME UP WITH A BUDGET RIGHT AND
WHICH STATUTORY CHEN THEY JUST
THE REVENUE HAS TO.
THE BUDGET I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF
WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
ANON APPROPRIATE PROBABLY.
SO THE EN LA OWES REPORT FROM
TWENTY SIXTEEN DO YOU LIST THE
STATUTORY.
.
THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO
REMOVE STATUTORILY THEY OUTLINED
IN THE REPORT.
THEY ARE NOT OUTLINED IN THE
REPORT AND I'VE STARTED PROVIDE
FOR US.
WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY I THINK
PART OF IT IS IT'S SCATTERED ALL
OVER THE PLACE AND I THINK ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO
ILLUSTRATE WITHOUT. ACTUALLY
IDENTIFYING EVERY SINGLE ONE WAS
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FULL PAGE
CHART THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE
SPECIAL FUNDS THAT COULD BE
ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THESE TYPES
OF DOLLARS TO THIS IS SOMETHING
WE CAN DEFINITELY. CHO FOR FILL
OUR REQUESTS SHOULD BE ANOTHER
SO MANY WOULD BE JUST THE ONES
THAT WE DEAL WITH.
LAST JOURNAL RACIAL FUNDS YEAH.
ALRIGHT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THIS ITEM.
CARE AND.
I'LL SHOW MUCH LEARN BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION.
ABI WANTED TO.
THINK THAT LEGISLATURE AND THE
GOVERNOR IS A COMMITMENT ONTO
APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR AT PEACE
OFFICER TRAINING PORTION.
AND ALL WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
AYE TOGETHER AGAIN TO MAKE SURE
THAT THIS.
THAT THERE IS A LONG TO SHORT
TERM AND LONG TERM SOLUTION TO
THIS FUNDING THINK YOU.
MADAM CHAIRMAN SENATOR PELL
DANIEL SANCHEZ ON BEHALF OF THE
CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS OUT OF
CALIFORNIA OUT WE ALSO WANT TO
THANK THE LEGISLATURE THIS
COMMITTEE. I AM AND THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR THE
HISTORICAL INVESTMENTS IN PEACE
OFFICER TRAINING OBVIOUSLY I
THINK WE SHARE MANY OF THE
CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED HERE
BY YOU ALL IN THAT. I WE
RECOGNIZE OUR STRUCTURAL
DEFICITS TO THIS FUNDS ON
PROBATION PLACES A VERY HIGH
VALUE OF COURSE I'M ON TRAINING
THAT I WOULD NOTE IS ON BOTH AND
POST BUT ALSO IN WHAT'S REFERRED
TO AS THE S..
SEED THAT STANDARDS AND TRAINING
IN CORRECTIONS I'VE YET TO BE
SEC WHICH IS WHERE PROBATION
RECEIVES MOST OF OUR CORE AND
SPECIALIZED TRAINING. I'M AND SO
WE JUST I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND
HOPE THAT AS DISCUSSIONS
CONTINUE BOTH THIS YEAR AND
ONGOING AYE THAT WERE
COLLECTIVELY ABLE TO FIND A MORE
SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION I'D TO
ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE NEEDS
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
CENTER BELL SHORT RUN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION AND ADDITION TO
ECHOING THE. SENTIMENTS OF MY
COLLEAGUES ARE OF COURSE THAT
YOU KNOW MAIN. CONCERN IS THAT
THE TRAINING THAT COMES TO OST
OF.
CP ó A OUR ORGANIZATION PUTS
ON ABOUT A HUNDRED.
POST CERTIFIED TRAININGS A YEAR
EVERYTHING FROM CRISIS
INTERVENTION TRAINING AND SLASH
MENTAL HEALTH.
FUTURE AND CURRENT AND EVEN
PAST.
USE OF FORCE DE ESCALATION
COURSES AND SAW THESE
DEPARTMENTS ARE OF COURSE WITH
EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN
SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE.
PROPOSALS KIND OF CHOMPING AT
THE BIT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THESE BUT.
AS YOU MENTIONED IT'S AN
INTERESTING KIND OF DICHOTOMY
BECAUSE.
WITH MORE COMMUNITY ORIENTED
POLICING YOU'RE HAVING LESS YOU
KNOW.
CITATIONS AND AND SOMETIMES
EVEN LESS CASES BROUGHT TO COURT
AND THEN THE FINES ARE THERE.
BUT THEN WE ALSO NEED POST TO
HELP US CERTIFIED THESE COURSES
TO EXPAND COMMITTEE OR DID
POLICING SO PARTISAN APPROACH
EITHER THROUGH THE THE GENERAL
FUND OR WHAT NOT TO KEEP THAT
GOING.
AND AGAIN APPRECIATE THE BE.
.
VIEWS INTO THIS OVER THE LAST
FEW YEARS WHETHER IT WAS FROM ST
GRANTS WHATEVER IT IS TO TO GET
SOME LOCAL FUNDING.
FOR TRAINING IT IS ESSENTIAL SO
WE APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH
INNER AND ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE
ANY DETAILS WE'VE WE CAN BUT
ALSO WE BUT THE SERGEANTS SOME
LETTERS OF SOME CURRENT TRENDS
THAT WE DO OFF A OFFER. THAT
SADDAM THAT REQUIRE SOME.
POST PARTICIPATION SO PERSIAN.
THANK YOU.
YES I.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR.
RP SUFFER SERIOUS TRAINING IS
ADEQUATELY FUNDED IT'S ESSENTIAL
FOR THE DELIVERY OF OUR.
.
PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES AND ALSO
THAT TRAINING REQUIRED OF ALL
OUR FOLKS UNDER CPO WAY.
AND SO I THINK IS.
.
AND.
YEAH WE HAVEN'T SOLVED IT
DIFFERENCE
BUT A.
PARA ILIO PREPARING US THAT
LIST WILL HELP.
WHETHER WE TAKE ACTION BEFORE
JUNE FIFTEENTH OR NOT.
THERE MAY STILL BE THERE'S
ALWAYS CLEANUP IN AUGUST BUT
WE'LL SEE.
ALRIGHT.
.
WITHOUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC'S OF
PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE FIVE
WILL NOW BE ADJOURNED