FROM THE
SENATE COMMITTEE ON BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE WILL BEGIN THE HEARING.
AND.
LEGISLATORS WILL BE COMING IN
AND OUT OF DIFFERENT TIMES TODAY
SO IT'S A.
IN TWENTY FOURTEEN AS YOU KNOW
THE LEGISLATURE MADE SWEEPING
CHANGES TO THE REGULATION OF
MASSAGE THERAPY. ESPECIALLY IN
THE AREAS OF LOCAL CONTROL
SCHOOL APPROVAL AND THE
COMPOSITION OF THE CALIFORNIA
MASSAGE THERAPY COUNCIL.
TODAY'S HEARING WILL PROVIDE AN
UPDATE ON SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.
THIS HEARING WILL FOCUS BOTH ON
THE CHALLENGES FACING
PRACTITIONERS AND THE BEST
PRACTICES OF REGULATIONS ACROSS
THE STATE.
THIS HEARING WILL ALSO PROVIDE
AND UPDATE ON THE COUNCIL SCHOOL
APPROVAL PROCESS TO HELP
IDENTIFY. ANY UNNECESSARY
BARRIERS TO CERTIFICATION WHILE
ENSURING THE COUNCIL HAS THE
TOOLS TO DISAPPROVE. SCHOOLS
THAT ARE NOT PROVIDING AN
APPROPRIATE EDUCATION.
THIS HEARING WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT
THE WORK BEING DONE TO ADDRESS
IN A RADICALLY FRAUDULENT AND
ILLEGAL ENTERPRISES.
REVIEW THE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
OF THE COUNCIL TO AYE TO
IDENTIFY THE WAYS IN WHICH
CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES CAN
ADDRESS COMPLAINTS OF
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR.
AND FINALLY THIS HEARING WILL
FOCUS ON BEST PRACTICES IN ANY
RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
TO REGULATING THE MASSAGE
THERAPY PRACTICE SO THAT GOOD
BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE BAD
BUSINESSES ARE SHUT DOWN. AND
CONSUMER PROTECTION REMAINS A
PRIORITY.
IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THESE
DISCUSSIONSENCOMPASS A DIVERSE
GROUP OF EXPERTS FROM
PRACTITIONERS REGULATORS LOCAL
GOVERNMENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
NONPROFIT ADVOCACY IT EXPERTS.
WHICH WE HAVE WITH US TODAY. I
APPRECIATE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS
WHO HAVE JOINED US AND LOOK
FORWARD TO TODAY'S.
DISCUSSION AS WE GAIN A BROADER
PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT IS
WORKING WHAT IS NOT AND WHAT IF
ANY CHANGES ARE NEEDED TO. THE
OVERSIGHT AND REGULATION OF THE
MASSAGE THERAPY PROFESSION IN
CALIFORNIA.
AT ONE A WELCOME OUR. SENATOR
NEWMAN WHO IS HERE AND.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOW THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE ASSEMBLY BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS A BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE WELCOME.
MISTER CHAIRMAN IT'S NICE THAT
THE NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY
WITH US ON THIS SIDE SO WOULD
YOU LIKE TO. MAKE A FEW OPENING
COMMENTS.
IT'S A VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO
THE DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR ALSO CONVENE AND
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR
BEING PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS
SENATOR NEWMAN PLANET. ALVIN
XIN.
THERE ARE NO WINNERS HERE AS
WELL SENATOR AND WHEN WOULD YOU
LIKE TO MAKE IT. AN OPENING.
COMMENT NO I.
VERY GOOD AS WE ARE THANK YOU.
LET. OF HOWEVER START BY
WELCOMING THAT THE FIRST PANEL A
A UP TO THE THE.
.
FEET TO THE WE HAVE IN THE
FRONT.
BEAM MISTER MARK DIXON WHO
ISSUED PRESIDENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL.
DO THEY CAN THANK YOU POLICE
CHIEF A JOHN. CARLY FROM THE
CITY OF BACK OF BILL AND IN
THIS.
JEANNIE MARTIN PRESIDENT OF THE
AMERICAN MASSAGE THERAPY
ASSOCIATION.
A CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN IF YOU
TAKE YOUR SEAT AND. BUT BEFORE
WE BEGIN THE PANEL WHAT I'D LIKE
TO DO IS AS MANY OF YOU KNOW.
WE LEAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD THAT THE IT FOR THE END
OF THESE HEARINGS BUT I THOUGHT
WE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE
DIFFERENT TODAY IN ORDER TO
PROVIDE. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR.
SO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO
EXPRESS THEIR THOUGHTS THEIR
IDEA IS THAT THEN WE CAN KIND OF
INCORPORATE IN OUR CONVERSATION
AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS
HEARING TODAY. SO WE WOULD DO IS
A. A HAVE FOR ABOUT A TWENTY
MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
NOW.
AND WOULD APPRECIATE IF MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC WOULD KEEP THEIR
REMARKS TO TO.
TWO MINUTES.
TWO ALLOWS AS MANY PARTICIPANTS
AS CAN TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK SO
THAT WE CAN THEN MOVE ON TO OUR
AGENDA.
AND IT WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THANK YOU
AT OF ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD. A AFTER THE.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR
HEARINGS SO IF THERE'S ANYONE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO TO COME
FORWARD AND.
WITH SOME COMMENTS THOUGHTS
THAT THEY YOU HAVE RELATED TO
THE INDUSTRY PLEASE DO. AND IF
YOU COULD KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO
A MINUTE OR TWO AS BRIEF AS
POSSIBLE AND TRY NOT TO BE
REDUNDANT.
IF SOMEONE HAS ALREADY SAID
WHAT THE WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY
TO YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY DITTO THAT
WORKS FINE TOO. PLEASE IF YOU'D
LIKE TO AT THE MICROPHONE.
SEARCH FOR.
A DO YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THE
GENTLEMAN RIGHT BEHIND. RIGHT
THERE.
I HAVE SEVERAL BOOKS TO GIVE TO
THEIR STUFF.
OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO
MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE
SENATORS I WANT TO TELL YOU. MY
BACKGROUND I WAS.
BORN. A BLIND.
N. DE M. AYE HAD NO HOLE BY THE
MEDICAL PROFESSION AND I FOUND.
THAT NATURAL VISION IMPROVEMENT.
EXERCISES PLUS.
MOVEMENT AND MASSAGE.
DID HELP ME.
TO BILL THAT VISION FROM ONE
PERCENT TO SEVENTY PERCENT
VISION I WAS.
NOTE NOTED TE INTO.
DE THE ISRAELI.
TV IS THE ONE OF THE TOP TEN
MOST OF MY PEOPLE THAT I
WOULDN'T. MENTION IN DEEPER
CHOPPER BOOK SOME MENTION IN.
ROMAN DEUTSCHE BOOK ON THE
BRAIN.
AND WHAT I FOUND IS THAT
MASSAGE.
IS AN AMAZING PART WHERE YOU
HAVE TO REALLY.
FIND A WAY.
TOUCH PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY THOSE.
THAT HAVE MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY
HAVE TO BE TOUCHED DIFFERENTLY
THAN DOES HAVE MULTIPLE
SCLEROSIS.
THOSE WHO HAVE ARTHRITIS AND
MAJOR PAIN HAVE TO BE TOUCH
DIFFERENTLY. THOSE WHO HAVE
SPINAL INJURIES HAVE TO ATTACH
DIFFERENTLY.
AND ALSO HAVE VISION PROBLEMS
HAVE TO BE TOUCH DIFFERENTLY.
THEREFORE MY PROGRAM WHICH IS
EIGHT HUNDRED HOURS ENOUGH GIVEN
BOOK SOME SO I CAN GIVE IT TO
YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND EVEN SIGNED
THEM.
BUT THEY FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY
FIVE PAGES AND THIS IS ONE OUT
OF SEVERAL BOOKS THAT WE HAVE IN
OUR PLACE. WHO HAVE VERY
EXTENSIVE TESTS PHYSIOLOGY
QUESTIONS BUT WHERE BUILT
DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CORPSMAN?
SCHOOL WE HAVE.
FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS OFF
APPRENTICESHIP WELL THEY ONLY
HAVE SEVENTY FIVE HOURS OF
CLINICAL STUDY BECAUSE WE NEED
TO DEMONSTRATE. UP PERSON BY
PERSON WHAT KIND OF DIFFERENT
KIND OF APPROACH THAT WE NEED
FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL. WHO WERE
VERY HAPPY TO HAVE?
?
PEPPER MEET TO PRACTICE IN.
SOME FRANCISCO AND THEY LATER ON
TO GET UP AND LICENSE BY DAY THE
HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE TO CUT
YOU OKAY THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING THE ISSUE IS ABOUT
SCHOOL OF LICENSING AND THE THE
QUESTION OF US. OF A
CERTIFICATION OF WHAT AT SCHOOLS
AND APPROVAL OF SCHOOLS IS THAT
WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE GOOD POINT IS
THEY HAVE TO EXPAND TO WHOM THEY
APPROVED AND IT OUGHT TO BE
NARROW GOT IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED
THANK YOU FOR THE BOOKS APPEAR
WE WILL LOOK AT THEM PLEASE THE
NEXT BIGGER.
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU SO MUCH
AND CHEER HILL AND ALSO THINK
YOU CHAIR LOW PER JOINING THIS
COMMITTEE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MY NAME IS
BERNADETTE MURRAY I AM
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL CERTIFIED. MASSAGE
THERAPIST NUMBER TWO TO TWO AND
I A PRACTICE AS A SOLE
PROPRIETOR IN WOODLAND
CALIFORNIA FOR OVER TWENTY
YEARS.
UMP THERE ARE MANY MORE
AFFECTING MANY TOPICS ON THE
AGENDA TODAY I WANT TO FOCUS
WITH A EXPLICITLY ON OUR ISSUES
WITH THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
AND THE SCHOOL APPROVAL PROCESS.
LAST YEAR WHEN I TESTIFIED IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL.
THREE FIFTEEN WHICH I WAS
AUTHORED BY SENATOR IN IN.
WHEN.
MY FIRST COMMENT WHAT IT'S ABOUT
THE LACK OF CLEAR AND EFFECTIVE
COMMUNICATION FROM THE
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNSEL TO CERTIFICATE HOLDERS
AND TO SCHOOLS. ABOUT CHANGES IN
POLICY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'D THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING OUR
MOST RECENT EXAMPLE IS THAT
AFTER NINE YEARS OF ACCEPTING
PORN TRANSCRIPTS IN EVEN HAVING
AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA IN
NOVEMBER TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
ABOUT EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF A
AUTHORIZED BURNS THAT COULD
TRANSLATE TRANSCRIPTS A IN THERE
WAS A BIT IN BEEN VERY NEXT
MEETING IN FEBRUARY ALL OF A
SUDDEN IT THERE WAS A REVERSAL
AND TRANSCRIPTS FROM PRODUCT OUT
OF COUNTRY WILL NO LONGER BE
ACCEPTED. THIS IS CONFUSING AND
CHAOTIC.
THERE'S ALSO A PROBLEM WITH
DISCRIMINATORY ENFORCEMENT THAT
HAS THAT IT APPEARS THAT THERE
HAS BEEN AN APPLICANT THAT WAS
APPROVED FOR CERTIFICATION AT
THE BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH. WHO
RECEIVED HER SPEAKING THERE HER
EDUCATION FROM NEW ZEALAND? AND.
BIG IF. THIS IS UNFAIR IF
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETIMES
ACCEPTED AND NOT ACCEPTED AYE IN
BRIEF I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY.
THAT I THINK THAT IT'S A VERY
IMPORTANT BUT THE COUNCIL
OPERATE AS EFFICIENTLY AND
EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF NEW
APPLICANTS HAS DROPPED
TREMENDOUSLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU YEAH.
GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON
THANK YOU SENATOR HILL AND TO
REMAIN BOARD.
MY NAME IS LAUREN MCLAUGHLIN I
AM OF SOLE PROVIDER IN THE CITY
OF ROSEVILLE I AM CALIFORNIA
MASSAGE THERAPY COUNCIL
CERTIFIED MASSAGE THERAPIST.
NUMBER TWO SEVEN ONE EIGHT
SEVEN.
ADDITIONALLY I'M CUSTODIAN OF
RECORDS FOR CLOSE SCHOOL.
MY FIRST COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH
THE FACT OF BEING A SOLE
PROVIDER.
I DID ASK YOU AT THE SUNSET
HEARING TO PLEASE CLARIFY THE
LANGUAGE OF SO THAT THE
MUNICIPALITIES WOULD KNOW WHAT
THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO. ARE IN
THE INSTANCE OF A CERTIFIED
MASSAGE THERAPIST AND ALSO SO
THAT IT WAS MORE CLEAR FOR US.
I HAVE TO SAY I REGRET MAKING
THAT REQUEST BECAUSE WHAT IS IN
SUIT FROM THAT.
IS IT LEAST IN MY CIRCUMSTANCE
IN MY CITY IT SEEMS THAT.
THEY REALLY DON'T TURNOUT
RECOGNIZE HIM TO SEE HAVING ANY
BARRY OR THE MASSAGE ACT HAVING
ANY BEARING ON THEIR ACTIONS OF
THE MUNICIPALITY.
I BEEN IN THE SAME LOCATION FOR
TEN YEARS AS HAS MY SOLE
PROVIDER HUSBAND BUT IN THE
SAME.
LOCATION AND ROOM AS HAS OUR
COLLEAGUE WHO'S BEEN IN THE SAME
LOCATION AND ROOM.
IN THAT BUILDING FOR SHE'S BEEN
THERE OVER TWELVE YEARS MY HAS
BEEN I'VE BEEN THERE TEN YEARS.
I'VE AND MY HUSBAND AND MARK
COLLEAGUE HAVE BOTH BEEN.
LIVE SCANNED TWICE BY THE CITY
OF ROSEVILLE ADDITIONALLY MY
HUSBAND I'VE BEEN LIVE SCAN BY
SEEM TO SEE AND ADDITIONALLY I
WAS LIVES CAN ONE MORE TIME BY A
PRIVATE ENTITY. BECAUSE I WOULD
HAVE TO FILL IN FOR A COLLEAGUE
WHO RENTED SPACE.
IN THEIR BUILDING THEY WEREN'T
ELDER COMMUNITY AND THEY PAID
FOR THE LIVE SCAN SO. I DON'T
REALLY HAVE MUCH ARGUMENT FOR
THAT I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
BUT THE COSTS ARE BECOMING
RIDICULOUS IN THE FACT THAT WERE
SO PROVIDERS
WE'RE NOT MASSAGE AND A MASSAGE
HEIGHTS OR THE REST OF THEM.
BEING CALLED A DUAL ENTITY
BEING AN INDIVIDUAL WHO NEEDS TO
HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE THE CITY
IN ORDER TO PRACTICE THE
PROFESSION WHICH WERE EDUCATED
AND GOOD AT.
I ITS CURRENT FEARED WE SAY OKAY
WILL YOUR MASSAGE SALAS WHAT YOU
HAVE TO HAVE A MASSAGE HAVE
APPEARED PERMIT. AND THE COUNTY
TO.
IDEA THAT'S COMING UP IN A NEW
BILL WHERE WE HAVE TO REGISTER
WITH THE COUNTIES UNKNOWN COSTS
PROBABLY ADDITIONAL LIVES AGAIN.
CAN WE CAN BE VERY MUCH A.
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND
DOES MAKE MADE NOTE CAN I. WON
ONE POINT ABOUT MY PERFECT
POSITION AS CONSERVATIVE
RECORDS.
.
I GET CONTACTED IN THAT ROLE BY
PEOPLE WHO FEEL I'M FAMILIAR
WITH THE LAWS ARE THAT'S IT I
GUESS CAN'T I CAN'T I DON'T
APOLOGIZE FOR THE WE HAVE TO
MAKE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU THANK
YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON AFTERNOON LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN REEF IS POSSIBLE
IF YOU CAN MAKE THE POINT THAT
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OKAY I
CERTAINLY WILL. OF WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT DIDN'T THE MASSAGES IN THE
LICENSES AND AND WHAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE. ARE I THINK HAVE TO
PERHAPS BE EXPANDED AND
DIFFERENT SCHOOLS LOOKED AT
DIFFERENTLY.
I'VE I'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH WITH DOCTOR MY AIR WHICH
YOU HEARD OF BEFORE I WENT TO
HIM BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DIAGNOSED
WITH GLAUCOMA.
THE TRADITIONAL.
A TREATMENT FOR THAT IS THAT
EVERY SIX MONTHS TO GO IN AND
THEY TELL YOU HOW MUCH VISION
YOU HAVE LOST.
AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN ANOTHER SIX
MONTHS THERE HAVE TO BE A BETTER
WAY.
I HAVE FOUND HIM A THROUGH
MASSAGE THROUGH BODY MOVEMENT.
OF.
THROUGH EXERCISING HE HAS HE HAS
BEEN ABLE TO YOU KNOW. DEAL WITH
THIS AND HELP WITH
SO HE'S JUST NOT A MASSAGE.
PLACE
HE'S MORE BODY MOVEMENT TREATING
EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY LOOKING
AT EVERYBODY STRENGTH WORKING
WITH EVERYBODY'S WEAKNESSES
INDIVIDUALLY.
AND DEALING WITH IT ON THE
INDIVIDUAL LEVEL THROUGH I THINK
THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMEHOW.
ON EXPRESSED IN IN WHAT WHAT
YOU'RE DOING UP HERE NEOVIA JUST
NOT A BLANKET STATEMENT RHI HAVE
ALSO ANOTHER LETTER FROM MISTER
WILL FULLER WHO COULD NOT COME.
MAY I READ THAT.
YOU CAN GIVE TO THE SERGEANT
WILL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT
ARE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE IN
THE COMMENTS.
GOOD AFTERNOON WELL ENOUGH TO
NOON. MY NAME IS JOHN HARVEY I'M
FROM QUEBEC CITY CANADA.
I CAME HERE ESPECIALLY FROM
THAT.
IN FACT I'M ONE PRACTITIONER OF
THE SET.
I. HAD THE TRAINING OF ME IS
NEITHER. METHOD THEMSELVES SELF
FEEDING SCHOOL.
OTHER I HAD A SEVERE PROBLEM
WITH MY EYES
IT WAS ADDITION NUTRITION OF THE
WRITTEN THAT THE.
SEARCH UNFUNDED TO ME THOUGH
CIVIC IMPORTANT TO SURGERY WHERE
THEY PUT AWAY ABOUT IMPORTANT OF
MY.
WITH HIS MITTEN.
I PREVENT DECIDUOUS NUYS SO
AFTER THAT SIX TIME TO SEEM
SURGEON. AND IT'S THE SAME IN IT
EVEN THOUGH I CAN READ THE
SMARTER THAN BEFORE.
SO IS MIDDLE DO SO EFFICIENT SO
HELPFUL.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
AND NOBODY HIS THE
APPRENTICESHIP IS FIVE HUNDRED I
WHERE I MEET TWO THOUSAND OUR
WITH HIM. TO HAVE A BETTER TOUCH
TO BE MORE.
ERIC KEPT ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE.
N. THE I WISH THAT THE ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO HAD SEVERE PROBLEM
WITH THEIR VISION AND WITH THEM
BUT THE CAN WORK WITH HIM. VERY
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHERE I
HAVEN'T IT THROUGH TWO. VERY
GOOD WE THANK YOU TAKE THIS
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON
THANK YOU FOR. ALLOWING US TO
COME HERE BAIMA WORKING NOW WITH
THE.
AMIR SNYDER AND HIS SCHOOL I M.
A.
TEACHER AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY
YEARS.
A IN. OAKLAND CALIFORNIA AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA I'M NOW.
ORGAN RETIRING FROM TEACHING.
OUR NEW TEACHERS.
OUR I WOULD VERY MUCH I'M A
STUDENT NOW WITH HIM AND
LEARNING.
A.
BOTH MASSAGE AND ALSO TO WORK
WITH THE.
S. I EXERCISES BECAUSE I. THAT
WOULD TAKE HIM TO THE BECAUSE I
HAVE GLAUCOMA.
SO I'M. VERY HAPPY THAT I AM
ABLE TO DO THAT AND THANK YOU
FOR.
ALLOWING US TO BE HERE VERY MUCH
FOR FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING
OR THIS AFTERNOON THANK YOU.
NEXT WEAKER.
GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON
I'M GEORGIA DAL AND I HAVE BEEN
PRACTICING MASSAGE THERAPY FOR
FORTY FIVE YEARS.
BETWEEN PALO ALTO AND GRASS
VALLEY CALIFORNIA. I WAS AT ONE
TIME THE MANAGER OF THE NATIONAL
HOLISTIC INSTITUTE WHICH WAS A
MASSAGE SCHOOL. IN THE.
SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES IN
MOUNTAIN VIEW.
RECENTLY I'VE WHEN WORKING WITH
MER SCHNEIDER AND HAD HIS
TRAINING AND I AM OVERLY
IMPRESSED WITH HIS CAPACITY IN
THE NATURE OF HIS SCHOOL.
TO PROVIDE THE NEEDS OF THE%
INDIVIDUAL. AND THAT DEEDS
VARIETY.
SO I IMPLORE YOU ON YOUR.
DECISION PROCESS.
TO REALIZE THERE'SAN OLD PHRASE
WHAT IS IT DIFFERENT STROKES FOR
DIFFERENT FOLKS.
AND WE ALL GET THAT INNATELY.
SO HAVING THAT WITHIN WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND
REALIZING THE. VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT PEOPLE DIFFERENT
SCHOOLS IS CRITICAL.
TO THE.
MOVEMENT OF.
HEALTH THROUGH THE BODY WORK
MASSAGE.
AND THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
BUT AFTERNOON GRIFFIN BUT LIKE
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF BOTH OF
THIS NIGHT OF OCT NINE SO
PERSPECTIVE.
I WAS BORN WAS CATARACT WHICH IS
ON THE ONCOMING CASE ON THE
ISLAND THROUGH A WHOLE SERIES OF
SURGERIES. SOME OF WHICH
SUCCESSFUL MANY ALICE NOT.
ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO I AMOUNT OF
MR SMILE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
GERMANY.
AND HE WAS ABLE TO DO WATER
NOBODY HAS GOTTEN TO. THAT POINT
DID NOT ONLY STABILIZE MY
CONDITION MODELS EVEN ABLE TO
IMPROVE IT.
BECAUSE OF THE GREAT SUCCESSES
WORK OFFICE TO ME.
I CAN'T THE CALIFORNIA ALL THE
WAY FROM GERMANY. MANY TIMES
OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS.
NASA CLIENT I CAN.
I TELL THAT A HIS MASSAGE HIS
UNIQUE KIND OF MASSAGES AND AND
OF A PART OF.
OUR EACH TREATMENT I RECEIVED
FUND I COUNTER WITH GREAT
CERTAINTY.
OF THE TWO SO HIGHLY EFFECTIVE.
ALSO I COMPELLED HER TO UNIQUE
CONDITIONS SUCH AS MINE REQUIRES
UNIQUE SOLUTIONS.
OF MR SCHNEIER HAPPEN SO TO
OFFER SUCH A SOLUTION.
IN FACT I WOULD SAY THE BEST OF
MY KNOWLEDGE MR IS NOT A
SOLUTION THE ONLY ONE WHICH.
.
CAN HELP ME.
AND I HAVE TO STRESS THAT A
SOLUTION DEFINITELY INCLUDES THE
MOST UNIQUE KIND OF MASASHI.
PRACTICES.
THEREFORE I WOULD LIKE TO PLEDGE
SO TO ENABLE MISTER SNYDER TO.
A CONTINUE OF TEACHING IS UNIQUE
IN KIND OF MASSAGE S. LIZ WAS
ABLE TO. GREATLY IMPROVE MY
VERSION BEYOND WHAT ANY OTHER
MEANS COULD DO VERY GOOD THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE
TODAY AND I APOLOGIZE BUT FOR
EVERYONE ELSE WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
AFTER THE HEARING AND.
INCLUDE THIS SO I. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
NOW WE WILL.
BEGIN THE HEARING AND.
APPRECIATE.
YOUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY
ADDICTION WITNESSES THANK YOU
SENATOR HILL.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOW.
S. SENIOR STAFFERS.
FOR THE COMMITTEE'S REQUEST AND
RECOMMENDATION.
SEEM TO SEE SURVEYED IT
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS ON THEIR
EXPERIENCE WITH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS RATE IMPLEMENTATION
OF THE CALIFORNIA MASSAGE
THERAPY ACT.
IN DECEMBER TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN WE SUBMITTED THE
COMPLETE SURVEYS RESULTS FROM
THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED
EIGHTY NINE CERTIFICATE HOLDERS.
READ THE FIRST AND SECOND SLIDES
PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
WE WAIT UNTIL THEN IN ORDER TO
ALLOW CITIES AND COUNTIES.
OPTIMAL TIME TO ADAPT TO THE NEW
LAW.
THEREFORE QUESTIONS IN WHICH THE
COMMITTEE MAY BE ESPECIALLY
INTERESTED.
FIRST QUESTION TO.
FIFTY FIVE PERCENT OF RESPONDING
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS
STATED THAT THEIR SOLE
PROVIDERS.
QUESTION.
EIGHT.
QUESTION WAS IN YOUR EXPERIENCE
HAS THE CITY OR COUNTY BEEN
IMPOSING AND ENFORCING ONLY
REASONABLE AND NECESSARY FEES
AND REGULATIONS ON THE SARS
BUSINESSES AND CERTIFIED MASSAGE
PROFESSIONALS.
FORTY FIVE PERCENT ANSWERED YES.
TWENTY FIVE PERCENT SAID NO.
AND QUESTION NINE. IN YOUR
EXPERIENCE HAS THE COUNTY OR
CITY OR COUNTY BEEN MINDFUL OF
THE NEED TO PROTECT LEGITIMATE
MASSAGE BUSINESS OWNERS AND
PROFESSIONALS.
FORTY TWO PERCENT ANSWERED YES
IN TWENTY SEVEN NO.
FINALLY NUMBER TEN.
DID THE CITY OR COUNTY REQUIRE
YOU TO BE FINGERPRINTED OR PASS
A BACKGROUND CHECK IN ADDITION
TO THE FINGERPRINTING AND
BACKGROUND CHECK WHEN YOU
APPLIED FOR CM TO SEE
CERTIFICATION.
FORTY SEVEN PERCENT
SAID YES.
TWENTY TWO PERCENT SAID NO.
NO IN EARLY JANUARY WE SUBMITTED
THE ENTIRE SURVEY TO THE LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES. AND
INITIATE A MEETING WITH THE LEGS
TO GET EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT THE
SURVEY DEMONSTRATES A POSITIVE
SHIFT A CERTIFICATE HOLDERS
EXPERIENCE WITH CITIES.
HOWEVER.
IT ALSO REVEALS SOME CONTINUING
CHALLENGES.
I'M STILL CONCERNED WITH THE%
PREVALENCE OF SOME CITY
PRACTICES THAT ARE EITHER
ILLEGAL ARE IN REASONABLE.
I LIKE TO SHARE LOVE ABOUT MY
OWN EXPERIENCE.
AND MY OWN CASE.
AFTER PRACTICING FOR EIGHTEEN
YEARS IN THE SAME PROFESSIONAL
BUILDING IN NEWPORT BEACH.
THE BUILDING IS BEING DEMOLISHED
AND I MUST BE OUT IN TWENTY FOUR
DAYS.
THIS THAT THERE IS A NEWLY
RENOVATED BUILDING NOT ONE
HUNDRED YARDS AWAY. AND TO
RELOCATE MY PRACTICE ACROSS THE
STREET INVOLVES THIRTY FOUR
HUNDRED DOLLARS IN CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AND MASSAGE A STEP IN
REGISTRATION FEES.
THE RENT IS DOUBLE WHAT I'M
PAYING NOW.
AND THE LANDLORD WANTS A FOUR
THOUSAND DOLLAR DEPOSIT.
WHAT BLATANT HAVE SEVENTY FOUR
HUNDRED DOLLARS TO SPEND?
AND PLUS THE COST OF MOVING AND
BUILD OUT.
AND I'M FORCED TO CLOSE MY
SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN THIRTY
YEARS.
MY CLIENTS.
PEOPLE ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH.
AND PEOPLE ABOUT TO DIE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE RECEIVING
CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION.
PEOPLE WINNING OLYMPIC GOLD
MEDALS IN PLAYING COLLEGE AND
PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.
PEOPLE PLAYING GOLF WITH THEIR
FRIENDS.
PEOPLE WITH HIGH STRESS
OCCUPATIONS.
PEOPLE BEDRIDDEN FOR THEIR
ENTIRE LIVES.
PEOPLE LIVE IN WHEELCHAIRS.
MANY OF MY CLIENTS HAVE BEEN
COMING IN REGULARLY FOR OVER
TWENTY FIVE YEARS ANOTHER MUST
FIND A NEW THERAPIST.
SO IT'S A HARDSHIP FOR THEM AS
WELL.
IT'S NOT JUST MY STORY.
MY COLLEAGUES DOWN THE HALL AND
UP STAIRS FACE THE SAME
SITUATION.
AND THERE ARE SIMILAR STORIES IN
EACH OF YOU DISTRICTS.
THEME YOU SEE A DEMONSTRATED ITS
EAGERNESS TO WORK WITH ALL
STAKEHOLDERS.
TO HELP ADDRESS ANY OF THESE
ISSUES.
ON MARCH WELL THE CALIFORNIA
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND
THE CMT. ANNOUNCED A.
GROUNDBREAKING PARTNERSHIP THE
WILL PROVIDE STRONGER PROTECTION
FOR CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS. AND
INCREASED SUPPORT FOR LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
THE PARTNERSHIP A PROTECT
CONSUMERS FROM UNETHICAL HARMFUL
PRACTICES.
PROVIDE COMMUNITIES WITH GREATER
INVOLVEMENT IN CURTAILING
ILLICIT CONDUCT.
ENCOURAGE CERTIFIED MASSAGE
PROVIDERS TO ADHERE TO HIGH
PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
AND INCREASED COMPLIANCE WITH
STATE AND LOCAL LAWS AND
REGULATIONS.
THE PARTNERSHIP WILL INCREASE.
CONSUMER SAFETY BY FOSTERING
CORPORATION.
INFORMATION EXCHANGE AND
EXPERTISE BETWEEN SAY MTC AND
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
THE MTC HAS ALSO RECENTLY
DEVELOPED IS SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE
ADVERTISING TASK FORCE.
I WHICH COUNTY USES PART.
WHICH ESTABLISHES PROTOCOLS
DISCIPLINE MASSAGE THERAPY
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS WHO ENGAGE
IN SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE
ADVERTISING.
CMT SEE IS WORK CLOSELY WITH
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES IN THE DECADE SINCE WE
REFORMED. AND THIS PARTNERSHIP
ALLOWS US TO GREATLY INCREASE
THE SAFETY AND PROFESSIONALISM.
OF THE MASSAGE THERAPY INDUSTRY.
WE MADE STEADY PROGRESS.
AND THIS NEW INITIATIVE
STRENGTHENS OUR ABILITY.
TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVE
ALL STAKEHOLDERS EFFECTIVELY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
THE PARTNERSHIP WAS FORMALLY
INTRODUCED AT THE CAL SHE USE
ANNUAL TRAINING SYMPOSIUM IN
LONG BEACH LAST MONTH.
THE NEXT ONE.
OUR A CLOSER RELATIONSHIP LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
WILL BENEFIT THE STATE'S MASSAGE
THERAPIST AS WELL.
BECAUSE IT WILL BETTER EDUCATE
THE LEADERS.
OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT
LEGITIMATE MASSAGE THERAPY
PROFESSIONALS.
THE MORE EDUCATED LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS ABOUT THE MASSAGE
PROFESSION.
THE BETTER IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC
AS WELL AS A PROFESSION.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT FOR MANY
DECADES.
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY SITUATIONS
IN WHICH THE MASSAGE THERAPY
INDUSTRY HAS BEEN.
FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES
HIJACKED
BY UNSCRUPULOUS INDIVIDUALS WHO
USE MASSAGE AS A SUBTERFUGE FOR
ILLICIT ACTS LIKE PROSTITUTION
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
CREATING THIS PARTNERSHIP AND
WORKING CLOSELY WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO MINIMIZE OR
RADICALLY THIS PHENOMENON IS
BETTER FOR THE THERAPEUTIC
MASSAGE PROFESSION.
AND ULTIMATELY FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE STREAM
IS A FULL PAGE AD THAT WILL
APPEAR IN THE CALYCES?
NEWSLETTER COMING UP.
THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
CNBC PROTECTS THE PUBLIC.
BY ELEVATING THE MASSAGE
THERAPY.
PROFESSION.
EVERYTHING WE DO REVOLVES AROUND
ELEVATING THE PROFESSION SO THAT
CRIMINALS WHO USE THE PROFESSION
AS A COVER FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
DO NOT PENALIZE LEGITIMATE
PRACTICING MASSAGE THEIR.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER DIXON
APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE
YOUR HARD WORK ON THE ON THE
COUNCIL IT'S BEEN.
VERY STEADY AND A VERY
RESPONSIBLE AND MUCH
APPRECIATED.
CHIEF WELCOME
WELL THANK YOU AND WE THANK YOU
FOR THIS
COMMITTEE LISTENING TO.
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH IT IN
REGARD TO THE MASSAGE THERAPY?
I REGULATIONS IN A JURISDICTION
THE CITY OF ACCRA BILL OR I'M
THE CHIEF.
IS IS VERY PROGRESSIVE IN AN
EARLY ADOPTER.
OF REGULATIONS FOR HOW WE
ADDRESS.
THE ISSUE OF THESE PROFESSIONALS
TALISMANS AND SEPARATE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.
THE PROFESSIONAL ONES IN THE
ILLICIT ONES.
I CAN TELL YOU A STORY BUT
BEFORE I DO I JUST WANT TO SAY
THAT CALTRANS.
HERE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
TRULY HAVE SEEN THE BENEFIT.
OF THE.
STATE VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
AND AS A CITY I HAVE PERSONALLY
WITNESSED HOW IT WORKS.
IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE AND AS I'VE
SEEN SINCE WE'VE ADOPTED IN TWO
THOUSAND NINE.
REALLY LOOK TO HOW TO BEST WORK
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUE LOCALLY.
OVER THE YEARS I WITNESSED MANY
OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS EVEN IN
MY OWN COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE
LACKED.
WAS THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWED US
TO WORK WITH.
OF THE INDUSTRY WHO COULD LOOK
AT THE THE CERTIFICATION
PROCESS.
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN
JURISDICTIONS GENERALLY ARE NOT
EQUIPPED FOR THAT.
SO OVER THE YEARS.
WHAT I'VE SEEN?
ACTUALLY WORKS.
THE THE STANDARDS AND TRAINING
ARE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE.
THE THE CMT SEE HAS ALLOWED
THEIR STAFF TO WORK FREE OF
CHARGE TO TRAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IN WHAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE
IN ANY INVESTIGATION HOW TO DEAL
WITH ANY OF THE APPEAL PROCESSES
WERE UP THERE ARE COMPLAINTS
THAT COME IN.
AND BELIEVE ME THERE ARE
COMPLAINTS THAT DO COME IN.
AND IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO
MANAGE THAT INDIVIDUALLY FROM
ONE JURISDICTION TO ANOTHER
WITHOUT THE HELP.
OF THE MASSAGE THERAPY COUNCIL
IN THE REGULATIONS
THAT ARE IN THE CODE.
A FEW YEARS AGO I WAS ABLE TO
WITNESS HOW IT WORKED.
THROUGH A DISCIPLINARY PROCESS
AND AN APPEAL.
AND IT FOLLOWED THE THE PROCESS
BECAUSE WE HAD ADOPTED AN
ORDINANCE
THAT ESTABLISHED THAT THE
VOLUNTARY CERTIFICATION WAS A
REQUIREMENT.
FOR PRACTITIONER.
NOT NECESSARILY THE BUSINESS
OWNER BUT THE PRACTITIONER IN
TRYING TO STREAMLINE OUR OUR
PROCESS.
AND THROUGH THE APPEAL PROCESS
AND THE THE TESTIMONY THAT
OCCURRED IT TRULY PROVED HOW
BENEFICIAL IT IS TO PROTECT THE
INTEREST.
OF THE THE PUBLIC ARE REALLY
LOOKING FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND LONG FORCE MEANT TO PROTECT
THEIR INTERESTS.
AND THAT PARTICULAR APPEAL THAT
WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS
COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
WITHOUT THE
SUPPORT AND HELP OF THE
REGULATIONS THAT ALSO ALLOWS US
TO ASK THE QUESTIONS TO MAKE
SURE THAT WHO WE WERE DEALING
WITH WERE CERTIFIED
PRACTITIONERS.
SO I CAN TELL YOU JUST AS A
CHIEF OF POLICE.
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE
INDUSTRY.
THIS IS REALLY WORKED HERE'S AN
EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM. ALBEIT
THERE'S ALWAYS ITERATIONS OF
CHANGES UPDATES TO BE CERTAIN
THAT TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT IS.
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
CALIFORNIANS.
BUT THE REALITY IS IS HOW OFTEN
DO YOU SEE.
REGULATION AND CODE THAT IS
REALLY MEANT TO PROTECT THE
PUBLIC INTEREST
AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE I'VE SEEN
IT IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND
I'VE ALSO SEEN IT IN.
WITH MY COLLEAGUES THROUGHOUT
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THROUGH
THE ORGANIZATION CALIFORNIA
POLICE CHIEF.
OF THE LAST THING I WOULD JUST
WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH HIS.
THE THE TRAINING.
WAS A BIG PART FROM ME SO NOT
ONLY WHEN YOU THINK OF THE
SCHOOLS TO TRAIN.
THE PRACTITIONERS WHO WOULD BE
CERTIFIED BUT TRAINING OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
THERE'S THERE'S VERY FEW THINGS
ARE FREE.
AND OUR PROFESSION.
BUT TO SIMPLY BE ABLE TO MAKE A
PHONE CALL. AND THE COUNCIL
BEING ABLE TO SET UP TRAINING
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHIN MY
JURISDICTION. AND WITHIN THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
WAS VERY RESPONSIVE AND IT
REALLY HELPED US.
TO BE ABLE TWO PROFESSIONALLY
AND RESPONSIBLY.
I INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS.
MAKE SURE THAT ESTABLISHMENTS
ARE COMPLYING WITH THE
REGULATIONS.
AND TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC WHO WAS
ALWAYS CONCERNED.
ARE WE ARE WE KEEPING THEIR BEST
INTERESTS AT HEART.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING
THAT I'VE SEEN SO TRAINING IS
VERY OFTEN COSTLY IN THIS IS
PRETTY THE CASE.
IT WAS FREE AND IT WAS EFFECTIVE
AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE
PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH
WITH THE COUNCIL AND. LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL SO THANK
YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IT WILL
HAVE QUESTIONS.
THAT AFTER THE.
THIS SEGMENT AND IN THIS PANEL
IS COMPLETED THAT BUT.
APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS IT'S
A VERY REFRESHING TO HEAR.
SO NOW WE WILL MOVE TO.
IS MARTIN PRESIDENT AMERICAN
MASSAGE THERAPY ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER.
MARTIN WELCOME.
I THINK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
INVITING US TO SPEAK TO YOU
TODAY ON TO AN UNFORESEEN
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.
UNFORTUNATELY I WAS UNABLE TO
TRANSLATE MY REMARKS INTO
BRAILLE OF COURSE THESE THINGS
HAPPEN AT THE LAST MINUTE SO IF
THE COMMITTEE WOULD PERMIT. I
WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT MY BOARD
SECRETARY PATRICIA RESEARCH A
LOT BE ALLOWED TO DELIVER MY
REMARKS AND I CAN ARE STILL
BATTLE FOR QUESTIONS OF COURSE
WHAT PRECEDED THE VERY GRACIOUS
OF YOU THINK.
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE AND
THE COMMITTEE CHAIR HERE ALL FOR
YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME TO
SPEAK. MY NAME IS JENNY MARTIN
AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF THE
AMERICAN MASSAGE THERAPY
ASSOCIATION.
IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE A MTA IS
THE LARGEST NONPROFIT
PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION SERVING
MASSAGE THERAPISTS MASSAGE
SCHOOLS.
AND MASSAGE SCHOOLS IN THE
UNITED PART MEANS SUCH STUDENTS
AND MASSAGE SCHOOLS IN THE
UNITED STATES SINCE NINETEEN
FORTY THREE.
A MTA HAS BEEN SERVING THE
PROFESSION BY ACTIVELY PROMOTING
MASSAGE TO THE PUBLIC.
THE HEALTH COMMUNITY AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
OUR ASSOCIATION HAS MORE THAN
EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND MEMBERS
NATIONALLY. INCLUDING OVER SIX
THOUSAND MEMBERS IN CALIFORNIA.
THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE
AMERICAN MASSAGE THERAPY
ASSOCIATION. INCLUDES A
COMMITMENT TO. ADVANCE
A PRACTICE OF MASSAGE THERAPY IN
A CARING PROFESSIONAL AND
ETHICAL MANNER.
IT IS WITHOUT QUESTION THAT NO
ORGANIZATION HAS PUT MORE EFFORT
INTO ADVANCING THE PRACTICE OF
MASSAGE THERAPY ON A NATIONAL
LEVEL. THAN A MTA.
AND I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO
TELL YOU THAT THE LEGITIMATE
MASSAGE PROFESSION DOES NOT POSE
A SUBSTANTIAL THREAT TO THE
HEALTH. SAFETY AND WELFARE OF
CALIFORNIANS.
IN FACT I AM HERE TO TELL YOU
THE OPPOSITE.
AND THAT IS WE PROVIDE A VIABLE
SERVICE TO THE HEALTH AND
WELLNESS OF THOUSANDS OF
CALIFORNIANS. ON A DAILY BASIS.
BOTH IN STRESS RELAXATION.
AND A LEGITIMATE NON
PHARMACOLOGICAL THERAPY FOR
TREATING PAIN AND A NUMBER A
NUMBER OF OTHER ACUTE AND
CHRONIC CONDITIONS.
A THERAPY THAT IS RECOGNIZED AND
RECOMMENDED. BY THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE OF HEALTH.
THE JOINT COMMISSION.
THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
PHYSICIANS.
AND THE FEDERATION OF STATE
MEDICAL BOARDS TO NAME A FEW.
YET LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA HAVE RELENTLESSLY
INCLUDED THAT LEGITIMATE
PRACTICE OF MASSAGE THERAPY. IN
THEIR AGREED JUST ORDINANCES
REGULATING ASSESS ADULT
ENTERTAINMENT. IN THEIR ATTEMPTS
TO CURB PROSTITUTION AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
OUR ASSOCIATION IS NOT OBLIVIOUS
TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A
CRIMINAL ELEMENT THAT IS IN
INSTANCES ATTEMPTING TO HIJACK
OUR PROFESSION. FOR ILLICIT
PURPOSES.
THAT IS WHY FOR SEVENTY FIVE
YEARS WE HAVE WORKED WITH
AGENCIES OF OVERSIGHT. AT THE
LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS
TO HELP CREATE POLICY THAT NOT
ONLY ADVANCES OUR PROFESSION.
BUT ASSISTING COMBATING THOSE
THAT WISH TO CREW.
OF MASSAGE THERAPY.
OUR CONCERN IS THAT IN MANY
CITIES THE LOCAL REGULATORY
MODELS ARE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT
ORDINANCES.
IN FACT.
IF NOT IN NAME.
THERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF
SITUATION WHERE MASSAGE
THERAPISTS.
HAVE.
BEN.
FACED WITH ONEROUS LOCAL LOS.
IN NEWPORT BEACH IF A MASSAGE
THERAPIST WISHES TO MOVE THEIR
PRACTICE TO A DIFFERENT ADDRESS.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS
TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THIS.
IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM AN EMAIL
SENT TO THIS COMMITTEE BY A
CERTIFIED MASSAGE THERAPIST IN
SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.
HE WAS PLANNING TO LEAVE HER
EMPLOYMENT WITH A CHIROPRACTOR
AND BEGAN SEARCHING FOR A
LOCATION TO ESTABLISH AN OFFICE
OF FOR ROME.
SHE WRITES.
I STARTED LOOKING INTO
SURROUNDING CITIES AND INQUIRING
ABOUT MASSAGE BUSINESS LICENSES
FOR MASSAGE THERAPISTS.
THE CITY OF ONTARIO CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT.
THE CITY OF UPLAND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT.
THE CITY OF CLAREMONT
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THE CITY OF CORONA. CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT.
THE WOMAN WHOM I SPOKE TO OVER
THE PHONE FROM THE CITY OF CHINO
HILLS ALSO. CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT CITY.
ACTUALLY TOLD ME.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO WORK FOR
MASSAGE ENVY OR A CHIROPRACTOR?
THE CITY OF LONG BEACH DOES NOT
OIL MASSAGE THERAPY AS A
STANDALONE BUSINESS
SOME SITES THERE POSSESS THERE
WAS FORCED TO FIND A BUSINESS.
IN WHICH THE MASSAGE BUSINESS
WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY ONE.
THIS DIRECTLY PROHIBITS ALL
PROVIDERS FROM OPERATING.
IT TOOK A MASSAGE THERAPIST IN
SANTEE CALIFORNIA FOR MONTHS.
THREE APPLICATIONS
A PERSONAL APPEAL TO THE CITY
COUNCIL AND THE SERVICES OF AN
ATTORNEY.
TO OBTAIN MASSAGE BUSINESS
PERMIT.
IN SOME CITIES INCLUDING
ROSEVILLE CITRUS HEIGHTS NEVADO
LOS GATOS LANCASTER TO MACULA.
AND OTHERS.
THEY REQUIRE AND CHARGE FEES FOR
ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND CHECKS
WHEN MASSAGE THERAPISTS HAVE
ALREADY BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE
CALIFORNIA MASSAGED THERAPY
COUNTS.
THERE ARE MORE EXAMPLES BUT I DO
BELIEVE THIS ILLUSTRATES THE
POINT.
SPACING LIMITATIONS RESTRICTIVE
ZONING EXTRAORDINARY FEES AND
REDUNDANT BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE
NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
MASSAGE THERAPY ACT.
SECTION FORTY SIX OH THREE POINT
ONE WHICH READS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
CHAU IMPOSE ONLY REASONABLE AND
NECESSARY FEES AND REGULATIONS
ON MASSAGE BUSINESSES AND
MISOGYNIST ESTABLISHMENTS.
IN KEEPING WITH REQUIREMENTS OF
EXISTING LAW AND BEING MINDFUL
OF THENEED TO PROTECT
LEGITIMATE BUSINESS OWNERS AND
MASSAGE PROFESSORS
PROFESSIONALS.
PARTICULARLY SOUL PROVIDERS.
OUR EFFORTS ARE GUIDED BY THE
NATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND
SEVENTY FIVE YEARS OF HISTORY
AND EXPERIENCE OF THE A. MTA
WORKING TO LEGALLY RECOGNIZE.
AND RECOGNIZE AND REGULATE THE
PRACTICE OF MASSAGE IN FORTY
FIVE STATES.
THE AMERICAN MASSAGE THERAPY
ASSOCIATION REQUIRES THAT STATE
GOVERNMENT.
REGULATION OF THE PRACTICE OF
MASSAGE THERAPY IS A DESIRABLE
MEANS OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF
PUBLIC AND PROFESSIONS.
FURTHER IN THE CONTEXT OF
CONTEMPORARY CONDITIONS.
STATE LICENSURE IS THE MOST
EFFECTIVE MEANS OF REGULATION
AVAILABLE TO STATE GOVERNMENT.
AND GIVES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS A
MEANS TO WEED OUT THE LEGITIMATE
FROM THE ILLICIT.
STATE LICENSURE SHALL MEAN THE
TRADITIONAL LEGAL FORMULA THAT
REQUIRES ANY PERSON WHO DOES NOT
HOLD A VALID LICENSE FROM THE
STATE.
SHALL NOT ENGAGE IN THE PRACTICE
OF MASSAGE THERAPY. OR HOLD OUT
TO THE PUBLIC THAT SAID PERSON
IS PRACTICING MASSAGE THERAPY
AND THAT CRIMINAL PENALTIES
COMMENT TO PRACTICING WITHOUT A
HEALTH CARE LICENSE.
IT WILL APPLY.
I AM NOT HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE
COMMENTARY ON THE CURRENT SYSTEM
IN PLACE IN CALIFORNIA.
BUT TO OFFER YOU THE POSITION OF
THE MTA.
AND STATE THAT WITH WELL CRAFTED
LEGISLATION.
REGULATING THE PRACTICE OF
MASSAGE THERAPY.
SCHOOLS PROCSS AND REASONABLE
ESTABLISHMENT LICENSING WE CAN
CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WORKS
TO TRULY PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
ELEVATE THE LEGITIMATE PRACTICE
OF MASSAGE THERAPY.
AND HELP GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO ERADICATE
THE ILLICIT BEHAVIORS THAT HAVE
PLAGUED OUR INDUSTRY IN
CALIFORNIA.
UNTIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THIS IS
POSSIBLE.
WE DO ASK THAT OUR PROFESSION IS
TREATED FAIRLY.
AND NOT BURDENED WITH
UNREASONABLE. AND UNNECESSARY
LOCAL REGULATIONS.
THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK
YOUS MARTIN FOR THOSE WHOSE
COMMENT ON.
AND I LIKED IT IMAGES START WITH
THE FIRST QUESTION AND THEN BE
HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER TO A.
MEMBER OF THE COMEDIAN TO.
CHAIR LOW.
.
IN IN CHIEF YOU.
IT'S INTERESTING MISTER DIXON
MENTIONED ABOUT THE THE INDUSTRY
WAS HIJACKED BY.
BY ILLICIT THE SERGEANT AND IN
BUSINESSES AND AND I GUESS I GO
BACK AND MAYBE BECAUSE OF MY AGE
AND TIME IN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
BUT AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND.
AT THE TIME I FELT THAT.
ACTUALLY THE BUSINESS THE
MASSAGE
INDUSTRY WAS HIJACKED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
AND HOW THEY HIJACKED IT IS THAT
THEY.
YOU KNOW THERE WAS A PROBLEM AS
THERE IS A PROBLEM IN MANY
LOCATIONS IN THAT PROBLEM.
OF ILLICIT MASSAGE IN IN OF THE.
HUMAN TRAFFICKING ISSUE WHICH
WILL GET INTO LATER BUT JUST
THE.
THE ILLEGAL OF BEHAVIOR THAT WAS
GOING ON AND.
WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT I FELT IT
WAS A LOT EASIER TO?
MANAGE CONTROL AND FORCE AND
PLACE BURDENS.
RESTRICT THE LEGITIMATE MASSAGE
INDUSTRY RATHER THAN GO AFTER
THEM UNDER THE RED LIGHT
ABATEMENT LAW WHICH IS A LOT
MORE COMPLICATED ALL I. MY
UNDERSTANDING RECOLLECTION WAS A
LOT MORE DIFFICULT A LOT MORE
CHALLENGING.
AND NOT ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL A LOT
MORE EXPENSIVE IN DOING IT
SELECTS RATHER THAN DO THAT
LET'S JUST PUT THIS BLANKET OF
ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATION OVER
A OF.
IN MOST CASES A LEGITIMATE
INDUSTRY.
ARE AND AND I THINK THAT'S CHIEF
YOU MENTION THAT THAT YOUR
EDUCATION PROCESS IT WOULD I
SENSE FROM THAT IS IT TOOK YOU
FROM THAT POINT MAY BE A LITTLE
BIT AND AND BROUGHT YOU NOW TO
SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE.
BLOOM ANYMORE.
REALISTIC I GUESS IN AN
APPRECIATION OF THE LEGITIMATE.
BENEFICIAL.
ASPECTS OF THE BUSINESS SO IN
INSANE THAT.
I END ARE THE LETTERS THAT MISS
MORTON REFERENCED.
WE GET A NUMBER OF THEM FROM A
LOT OF THE CITIES THAT YOU
MENTION.
OF AND IN THE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION
IS NOW AND EMBRACED.
CMT SEE AND IN THEIR EDUCATION
AND THINGS.
SO I LOOK AT THESE OTHER CITIES
OF THESE CITIES THAT ARE
CREATING THE PROBLEMS.
IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE LEGITIMATE MASSAGE
INDUSTRY.
AND.
I PRETTY WHY AND IF THERE CHIEF.
ARE OF THE SAME MIND IN
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
THEIR ADVICE TO THEIR COUNCILS.
SHOULD BE LET'S GO THIS ROUTE.
SEEMS THAT THEY'RE GOING A
DIFFERENT ROUTE IN MANY CASES SO
I. IN IN THERE'S A QUESTION
THERE'S DO YOU SEE.
ANY HELP IN TRYING TO.
CREATE THAT BETTER EDUCATION OR
HE WHERE THE PROBLEM IS AND WHAT
SHOULD BE DONE.
IT IS CLEARLY IS A COMPLEX
QUESTION BUT IT'S A COMPLEX
ISSUE.
.
PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH
GO HAND IN HAND AND YET MOST THE
TIME.
POLICE AGENCIES AT THE MUNICIPAL
LEVEL ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE TO A
CRIMINAL ISSUE IN SOMEWHERE IN
BETWEEN DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE
COMPLAINT IS.
TRADITIONALLY SPEAKING THE FOCUS
HAS BEEN.
THE THE ILLEGITIMATE.
.
SEX TRAFFICKING OR PROSTITUTION
THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT
WE HAVE.
WE'VE DEALT WITH WHETHER ON THE
STREET LEVEL OR.
A HIDDEN IN BUSINESSES.
THAT HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING
CHALLENGE AT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS
TRIED OVERCOME GET AT THE SAME
TIME.
CITY GOVERNMENTS
OUR ARE DRESSING THE THE OVERALL
SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND
THROUGH REGULATIONS OR
LICENSING.
SO THIS IS WHERE I THINK WHERE
WE'RE AT TODAY IT'S A CROSSOVER
BETWEEN.
A PARTNERSHIP WITHIN THE POLICE
AGENCIES THAT ARE TRYING TO
SEPARATE WHAT IS TRULY
PROFESSIONAL.
AND. I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF
WORKING.
CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HOW DO YOU NOT PENALIZE?
LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES
THE SAME TRY AT THE AT THE SAME
TIME.
HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT THE
CONNECTION BETWEEN YOUR MISSION
DOESN'T INADVERTENTLY HARM THOSE
WHO WERE TRYING TO? HELP PEOPLE.
AND AND THAT REALLY REQUIRES A
PARTNERSHIP BEYOND JUST THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WHAT I'VE
SEEN.
WITH THE THE THE MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL. AND THE REGULATION
THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY
CERTIFICATION.
IS.
IN OUR CITY IS IF YOU CAN.
IF YOU CAN MAKE IT EASY FOR
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COMPLY WITH.
THE CERTIFICATIONS IN THE
REGULATIONS.
SO THAT THERE IT'S NOT
EXPENSIVE.
IT'S NOT OVERLY TAXING.
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY WANTS TO
MOVE.
THEN YOU'RE NOT PUNISHING THEM
AND MAYBE THERE IS MORE SUPPORT
WITH THE BUSINESS
ESTABLISHMENTS.
AT THE SAME TIME HOW YOU USE
LOCAL REGULATION. AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT
TO TRY TO CURB THE.
THE UNDERGROUND BEHAVIOR THAT IS
BECOMING MORE MORE ORGANIZED.
AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE BEGIN TO
FOCUS ON EVEN THOUGH WE WERE AN
EARLY ADOPTER IN TWO THOUSAND
NINE. AND EVEN FOLLOWING THAT
THE CHANGES IN THE REGULATIONS
ONE OF OUR APPEALS WAS WHY CAN'T
YOU JUST.
FOLLOW THE STATE LICENSURE.
.
I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK TO.
COMPLEXITY OF ALL THAT OTHER
THAN TO SAY. MOST POLICE
AGENCIES WHO ARE TRYING TO DEAL
WITH.
THE THE ISSUE OR LOOKING FOR
GUIDANCE AND THIS IS WHAT WE
FOUND WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
WITH THAT CFTC
IS TO ALLOW THAT.
CERTIFICATION PROCESS BE
VOLUNTARY BUT BE REGULATED
WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION.
ALLOWED US TO SEPARATELY GO
AFTER. THE ILLEGITIMATE
BUSINESSES THAT WERE THERE THAT
CLEARLY HAD NO INTENTION OF
EITHER.
APPLYING WITH LAWS REGULATIONS
WERE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO.
TO SUBVERT THEM.
THE GOAL HAS TO BE MAKING SURE
THAT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE NOT GETTING IN THE WAY. OF
THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF OF.
AND THAT'S SOMETIMES I THINK
WHAT HAS BEEN MISSED OVER THE
YEARS AND IS CERTAINLY A FOCUSED
NOW MORE IN A PARTNERSHIP.
BETWEEN THE CAL CHEEKS
AND THE AND THE ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT
STATEWIDE.
AND WHAT A VOLUNTARY
CERTIFICATION PROCESS COULD LOOK
LIKE A IN IN WORLD AND WHEN THE
LEGAL CALIFORNIA CITIES IS
REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE.
LATER IN THE IN THE HEARING.
WE ASKING THEM THE SAME
QUESTION.
IT IS THERE ANY.
JUST IN THAT YOU HAVE AS TO HOW
WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OR.
POLICY EMPTY SHE COULD DO ABOUT
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE DOING OF
OF THEM BUT OUTREACH PROGRAM TO
TO DO THAT.
BUT TO GET THE WORD TO THOSE
CITIES THAT WERE MENTIONED BY MS
MARTIN.
THAT ARE.
CHALLENGES TODAY.
HOW DO WE GET THEM TO CHANGE
THEIR PORSCHE?
WELL.
I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF TIMES
THERE'S TWO THERE'S TWO ISSUES
ONE IS.
OTHER COSTS
AND EVERY CITIES DIFFERENT AND
WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO.
TO EITHER REGULATE OR CHARGE AND
SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE SEEN AS.
.
WHETHER IT'S IT'S REVENUE
GENERATION OR COST RECOVERY.
IT'S IT'S UNDULY EXPENSIVE.
S. SO THE GOAL OF TRYING TO
SEPARATE WHAT IS LEGITIMATE
VERSES.
AND PROFESSIONAL AND MAKE SURE
THOSE STANDARDS ARE HIGH AA NOT
EVERYTHING IS SPECIAL USE PERMIT
IS KIND OF TAKING IT THAT WAS
THAT S. B. ON IT IT DEFINITELY.
.
FOR A OF A WELL WRITTEN POLICY
AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WHO THEN WENT ON?
BEYOND IN RETIREMENT TO TRULY
TRY TO CRAFT INNOVATIVE.
.
UNDERSTANDING OF BEST PRACTICES
AND TRAINING AND SO I HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF THAT AND MAYBE THE
OTHER CITIES DO NOT.
BOB VERY TRUE. AMP OPEN UP TO
QUESTIONS OF THE.
SHARE LOVE. THAT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH I THINK THIS IS SORT OF
DEJA VU BACK TOWARDS CITY
COUNCIL DAYS AS WE RECALL A BIT
OF A SERVING LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN
WHICH WE HAD. A RECALL THE MOST
PACKED WHEN BOTH PACKED COUNCIL
HEARINGS WITH RESPECT TO AN
ISSUE THAT WE HAD IN INNER CITY
BOUNDARIES.
BUT THE CONUNDRUM THAT.
I JUST OBSERVE WHICH IS THAT OF
LOCAL CONTROL AND THAT OF THE
STATE OBLIGATIONS AND THE
CHALLENGE THAT EXIST THAT.
SO YOU CHIEF YOU TALKED ABOUT
NOT THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL AND
AT. LOCAL CITIES LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS HAVE THEIR OWN
CAPACITY TO REGULATE
ACCORDINGLY.
AND YET WE TALK ABOUT THEM FROM
THE LARGER STANDPOINT FROM THE
STATE SIDE WHAT CN WE DO TO
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AS WE'RE
HAVING THIS HEARING AND TRYING
TO.
AS WE MENTIONED PROTECT THE
PUBLIC AND ELEVATE PROFESSION
AND SO THEREFORE I KNOW THAT WE
HAVE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES
TALKING LATER ON TO BUT IS THERE
AND ANOTHER APPROACH OR A BEST
PRACTICES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE
TO AMPLIFY. A GIVEN THE
TESTIMONY THAT YOU'VE HAD HERE
TODAY ADD TO HELP ENCOURAGE A
PERHAPS THE ASSOCIATIONS
THEMSELVES TO A PUSH OF ITS
MEMBERSHIP TO SAY THAT WE MAY
NEED A STATEWIDE APPROACH VERSUS
THIS.
A PIECEMEAL APPROACH.
WELL.
I THINK BETTER COMMUNICATION
BETWEEN THOSE THAT ARE
ORGANIZING BETWEEN EITHER THE
LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS YOU
USUALLY REPRESENT.
pIT AND ALSO THAT THE LOCAL CITY
COUNCILS THAT ARE FORCED WITH
TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION.
AND SO YOU THINK OF MAJOR
STAKEHOLDERS
COMING TOGETHER TRYING TO.
RECOGNIZE WHAT ARE THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
OF THE VARIOUS.
APPROACHES
IS USUALLY WHAT HAS BEEN MISSED
AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FROM.
FROM MY VIEW IN MY CITY BUT I
KNOW IT'S AFFECTED STATEWID.
IS.
THE COMPLAINTS COMING IN AND
SOMETIMES THEY ARE ABOUT ILLICIT
BEHAVIOR.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S ALSO ABOUT
JUST GENERAL COMPLAINTS.
SO USUALLY THE CITY COUNCIL IS
LOOKING FOR WHO'S GOING TO
REGULATE WHO'S GOING TO
INVESTIGATE.
AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THE
LOCAL LEVEL HASN'T NECESSARILY
PROVEN TO BE.
.
EQUIPPED.
TO TRULY UNDERSTAND WHO SHOULD
BE CERTIFIED WHO SHOULDN'T BE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE BENEFIT FOR
FOR COMMUNITIES THAT DID ADOPTED
LIKE WE HAVE. IT REALLY DOES
HELP BECAUSE WE CAN PICK UP THE
PHONE AND WE CAN ACCESS
INFORMATION AND WE CAN ASK FOR
TRAINING.
OF.
IT STILL CAN GET IN THE WAY WITH
WHATEVER THAT.
LOCAL IMPACT IT MAY BE COMING
FROM THE COUNCIL. WHETHER IT'S
LOCAL CONTROL.
WERE JUST OF THE PUBLIC
PERCEPTION OF THE POLITICS OF
IT.
SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A
SOLUTION IN FRONT OF US.
AND AS I STARTED WRITING SOME
NOTES DOWN.
I KNOW THAT PART OF OUR INTENT
ORDINANCE IS NOT TO OVER
REGULATE.
AND NOT TO CREATE SOME OF THESE
EXTRA.
COSTS THAT ARE PROHIBITIVE AND
ACTUALLY INCENTIVIZE THE
VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
S. SAYS IT'S A VERY VERY SMALL
FEET.
AND HOW THE WE STREAMLINED SO
OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND OUR
CURRENT REGULATION.
IT HAS BEEN A MINIMAL IMPACT. ON
OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY FOR THE
LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S MAYBE HOW HOW TO
LEARN FROM THAT AND.
THE LEGAL CITIES OTHERS CAN GO
TO BEST PRACTICE COMMUNITIES AND
SAY HOW DO WE.
CREATE A BEST PRACTICE MODEL FOR
OTHERS MIGHT BE A SOLUTION.
THE OTHER QUESTION.
WHEN I HAVE A COUPLE WITH LIKE.
THE. OF MISS MORTON YOU KNOW
WHAT WE YOU HEARD THE.
THAT THE CHIEF AND I THINK HE'S
THE. STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE
ISSUES THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
.
THE DO YOU KNOW WHEN.
A MASSAGE THERAPIST IS LOOKING
TO ISSUE.
MENTIONED.
TRY TO BRANCH OUT TO OPEN THEIR
THEIR SOLE PRACTICE IN THE GO TO
THE CITY AND THEY.
STRUGGLE WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT
THEY MAY BE PRESENTED WITH A THE
CHALLENGES OF YOU KNOW SPECIAL
USE PERMIT CAUSE DELAYS AND
OTHER THINGS. WHICH THEY USUALLY
DO A DID THEY GO TO THEIR LOCAL
REPRESENTATIVE THEIR CITY
COUNCIL AND.
PLANE IS HERE.
ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE
TO.
SPREAD THAT WORD OF THAT
MESSAGE.
AND WE ENCOURAGE THAT OFTENTIMES
THEY COME TO ME AND COMPLETED
AND THEN I HAD FINALLY THE
PROBLEM WELL.
SO I I DIRECT THEM BUT THAT THE
CHALLENGE OF THAT IS.
FIRST OF ALL.
THIS IS ASSUMING THEY'RE TRYING
TO OPEN A NEW BUSINESS AND SO IF
THEY'RE TRYING TO OPEN A NEW
BUSINESS THIS MAY NOT BE A
BARRIER THAT THEY FORESEE AND SO
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE
FACED WITH.
I NEED TO SNAP UP THIS THIS
LEASE OR I'VE GOT CLIENTS THAT I
NEED I NEED TO BEGIN THE
MARKETING PROCESS I GUESS I'LL
JUST PAY FOR IT BECAUSE BY THE
TIME I FIGHT THIS. I'VE FOUGHT
THE GOOD FIGHT BUT THEN I'VE
LOST MY BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY OR
AT SEVERELY IMPAIRED IT THE
OTHER PROBLEM WITH THAT WE FACE
IS THAT.
.
IN MY CITY I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
THE REGULATIONS HAD CHANGED
UNTIL I GOT A LETTER THAT NOW
YOU NEED AN ADDITIONAL
BACKGROUND CHECK. AND WE'VE ALSO
UPPED THE POLICE PERMIT FEES SO
THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN
MIDWAY WHEN YOU'RE THINKING.
A GREAT NOT NEW YEAR'S COMES
ALONG BUSINESS LICENSE RENEWED
AND NOW I HAVE THIS THEY DON'T
HAVE TIME TO GO TO THE CITY
COUNCIL AND FIGHT IT AND EVEN IF
I DO. YOU KNOW WHAT TRACTION IN
MY DEN AGAT ON THERE'S ALSO I'VE
SEEN OF SEVERE LACK OF
COMMUNICATION ON FROM.
SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
THE MASSAGE THERAPY COMMUNITY
WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE ROLLING
THESE THINGS BY AND NOT LETTING
US IN ON IT WHEN WHERE THE
STAKEHOLDERS. SO THAT IT THAT
THE PROBLEM IS IS THAT IT'S NOT
THAT MEN EASY ONE IN IT THAT I
WISH I WAS A.
OF ONE SIZE ANSWER TO GIVE YOU
BUT IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON
THE CITY IN HOW COMMUNICATIVE
THEY ARE AND. HOW MUCH TIME THE
THERAPIST CAN ADVOCATE AND HOW
WELL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO THAT?
VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISTER DICKSON A QUESTION TO YOU
THE.
I.
HOW?
HOW CAN THE THE COUNCIL?
A DRESSER DEAL WITH SOME OF THE
COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES MAYBE
WITH SOME OF THE CITIES THAT
WERE REFERRING TO HEAR THAT THAT
HAVE A.
.
A MORE DIFFICULT FOR.
STRENUOUS TYPE OF.
OF REGULATORY PROCESS TO GO
THROUGH FOR LEGITIMATE DIRT FOR
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT SO.
IT IS THERE A OF.
MORE ENHANCED METHOD OF
COMMUNICATION UC THAT COULD WORK
WITH LEAH THE COUNCIL IN TRYING
TO WORK WITH THE POLICE CHIEF
AND WORK WITH THE CITIES AND. I
KNOW YOU'RE OUT REACHES BEEN.
VERY.
ROBUST
OF LATE IN TRYING TO DO THAT IS
THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU
THINK SHOULD BE DONE. THAT'S
ACCOMPLISH MAINLY AND USUALLY
BY.
.
ALMOST AND MYSELF AND THEN
BEVERLY BARELY MAYOR EARNED
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL
RELATIONS.
HAS DIRECT CONTACT WITH.
EVERY SEALY PRACTICALLY AND IS
QUITE WELL VERSED ON THEIR
ORDINANCES HOW THE ORDINANCES
INVOLVED WHERE THEY'RE HEADING
AND WHAT WHAT CHALLENGES THEY
PREACH PRESENT. AND SHE IS
AVAILABLE TO ALL CITIES
TO HELP.
MAINLY TO HELP.
CREATE ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN
THERE ARE CONGRUENT WITH THE
STATE LAW THAT.
ARE.
NOT REQUIRING THINGS THAT THAT
DOWN THE STATE LAW PROHIBITS.
SO SHE HELPS THEM WHENEVER WE
SHE'S ASKED WE MATCH THE CITY
ENERGY FOR ENERGY.
IF THEY WANT TO HAVE LOTS AND
LOTS OF HELP WILL GIVE THEM ALL
THE HELP THEY NEED.
AND WE HELP THEM WITH
ORDINANCES ALONG WITH OUR
COUNCIL WE HAVE A COUNCIL WHO
SPECIALIZES JUST IN.
ACTUALLY USED IN THE ORDINANCE
INTERPRETING IT AND HELPING TO
MAKE SURE THAT. THAT.
OUR POSITION.
WITH THE STATE LAW IS.
.
IT IS IT IS AN ACCURATE ONE.
SO WITH ACCURACY ALL THE CITIES.
THAT'S WHERE THE DIRECT DIALOGUE
OCCURS.
AND IT'S IT'S EAGER AND IT'S
ENERGETIC DIALOGUE THAT DOES NOT
HESITATE AYE AYE AYE.
INCOMPLETE.
THE SENIOR STAFF FROM MY HOME
IN NEWPORT BEACH AND HUNTING
BEACH. CLUB ANTIOCH COUPLE WEEKS
AGO BECAUSE A CITY REACHED OUT
AND THE INDICATED INTEREST IN
AND HELPING CREATE AN ORDINANCE
THAT WAS KIND GROWN WITH THE
STATE LAW. AND WE WERE UP THERE
JUST LIKE THAT AND HAD A VERY
PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH THE WITH
THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON POLICE
CHIEF AND CITY MANAGER.
SO WE'RE QUITE RESPONSIVE VERY
GOOD. TO HEAR THANK YOU SENATOR
DODD.
I APOLOGIZE OF.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE HERE
FOR THE ENTIRE HEARING SO FAR
BUT.
ONE OF THINGS INTEREST ME I GOT
IN THE ROOM WHEN WHEN WHEN
YOU'RE TALKS ARE ABOUT.
.
TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR FEES
AND.
.
AND THEN.
.
THE LAST.
TESTIMONY HAD A SIMILAR.
OUR OUR THOSE FEES THAT WAY. IN
IN GENERAL ON MOST BUSINESSES OR
IS THIS.
A FEED TO TRY TO DISCOURAGE
BUSINESS EVEN THOUGH.
YOU'VE GOT.
THE PROGRAMS IN PLACE IT YEAH
AYE AYE IN RIGHT NOW NOBODY
BUSINESSES IN NEWPORT BEACH MY
CITY WHERE PRACTICE.
THAT REQUIRE TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED
DOLLARS TO U. P. AND THEN IF
ESTABLISHMENT REGISTRATION
CERTIFICATE OF NINE HUNDRED. I
DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER
PROFESSION ANY OTHER BUSINESS OF
WHICH THAT IS REQUIRED.
I JUST NOTICED AND FEE POINT OF
VIEW A LOT OF US IN MY BUILDING
ARE FACING LEAFS HAVE THE.
DILEMMA OF MOVING RELOCATING TO
A SPACE THAT CAN BE NEW TO THE
CURRENT PRACTICE LOAD. AND TO A
SPACE THAT CAN AFFORD AND THEN
HAVING JUST OF THEM AND MY CASE
IF I WERE TO MOVE ACROSS THE
STREET WHEN MY COLLEAGUES IS.
I WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH
SEVENTY FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS
JUST TO GET IN THE DOOR JUSTICE
HOURS BUSINESS THERE.
UNLESS PROHIBITED FOR MANY
THERAPISTS NOT JUST MYSELF I
MENTION MY STORY BECAUSE IT'S
QUITE.
.
ACTED QUITE MUCH LIKE MANY OTHER
STORIES IN CALIFORNIA
WHEN PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO
RELOCATE. YOU KNOW THEY'VE BEEN
THERE THIRTY YEARS AS I HAVE.
IN EIGHTEEN IN THIS PARTICULAR
BUILDING.
THEY HAVE TO START OFTEN PROVE
THEMSELVES
BROUGH THEMSELVES OF BECAUSE OF
THE DINNER BUSINESS AND GO
THROUGH THE.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS
AND THEN PAY A FEE BECAUSE OUR
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER BUSINESS
THAT REQUIRED A SPECIAL FEE.
BECAUSE WITH TYPE OF BUSINESS
THEY ARE BESIDES MASSAGE.
MISS MARTIN ELABORATED ALSO.
.
WHEN.
TO TRANSFER FROM ONE PLACE TO
ANOTHER ORDER.
SIMAR DOT ERECT EXECS SIMSIM
SITUATION ALL OVER THE STATE.
VERY GOOD QUESTION COMMENTS BY
THE WAY YES THOSE REQUIREMENTS
COULD BE. OF ANY.
CITY. IN THE STATE.
WHETHER IT'S SAYING VOLUNTARY
CERTIFICATION THROUGH C. MTC OR
THERE'S A STATE AMEND MANDATED
STATE LICENSE.
MISTAKEN LICENSED THERAPISTS
WITH THE CITY CAN DETERMINE HOW
THE LAND IS USED.
IN THE CASE OF A STATE LAW.
SO THE CITY COULD STILL CONTINUE
CHARGING FEES.
RIGHT WILL WE WILL THANK THE THE
THIS PANEL VERY MUCH FOR THE
COMMENTS IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE
AND I THINK WE CAN FOLLOW THAT
UP FOR. A WITH OTHER PANELISTS
OF LATER IN THE A CONVERSATION
TODAY SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH
LINDA LIQUID WITH THE TIMES YOU
THINK YOU THINK REFLECTION THANK
YOU WAS MARTIN.
THIS IS WHAT YOU ATTRIBUTE.
A FEW ELECTION. ALRIGHT SO NOW
WE WILL MOVE TO OF OUR. NEXT A
PANEL OF PANEL WHICH.
MISA AND MISTER SHOW.
CAN DIRECTOR A DISRUPTION
STRATEGY FROM POLARIS.
THIS CAN THANK YOU FOR.
COMING OUT TODAY.
I KNOW IT.
YOU DIDN'T JUST COME NEXT DOOR
THAT'S FOR SURE I DON'T BELIEVE.
A LITTLE WAYS AWAY YES BUT THANK
YOU. IS OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THE
SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH YOU TAKE
THIS ISSUE AND.
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND AND
WE HAD SHARON THAT.
.
THAT SERIOUSNESS.
PLEASE.
THAT PROVIDER NOW AGAIN THANK
YOU I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL.
SO MY NAME IS RACHELLE QUE HAN
AND AS YOU MENTIONED I'M THE
DIRECTOR OF DESTRUCTION
STRATEGIES AT POLARIS.
CLEARS IS THE NATIONAL ANTI
TRAFFICKING ORGANIZATION IN THE
UNITED STATES AND HOME OF THE
NATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HOTLINE. MY DEPARTMENT CALL
DESTRUCTION STRATEGIES IS MEANT
TO DO EXACTLY THAT DEVISE AND
IDENTIFY BEST PRACTICES AND
STRATEGIES FOR DISRUPTING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
IN TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
POLARIS ANALYZED OVER. THIRTY
TWO THOUSAND CASES OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING THAT CAME THROUGH
OUR NATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING
HOTLINE. THAT DEVELOP A
CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM THAT
REVEALS WHAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
IN THE UNITED STATES TRULY IS.
TWENTY FIVE DISTINCT BUSINESS
MODELS AND LISTEN ASIDE
BUSINESSES ARE ONE OF THOSE
TWENTY FIVE TYPES.
WE CREATED THE TERM ILLICIT
MASSAGE BUSINESSES. DESCRIBE A
VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF
EXPLOITIVE.
ORGANIZED COMMERCIAL FRONT
TRAFFICKING VENUE AND IT'S A
TYPE THAT WE SAW IMPLICATED OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN CASES
REPORTED TO THE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING HOTLINE.
THE ELIZABETH SIZE BUSINESS
CASES WERE REPORTED.
STUCK IT IN THE SECOND HIGHEST
VOLUME ONLY BEHIND ESCORT
SERVICES.
AND WHAT. IS NOT INCLUDED IN
THIS TERM IS ANYTHING THAT IS
ILLEGAL MASSAGE BUSINESS
ADDITIONAL IT DOES NOT INCLUDE
CONSENSUAL SEX WORK THAT.
INCORPORATES MASSAGE AS WELL SO
IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE THAT
IS ORGANIZED CRIMINAL AND
EXPLOITED IT.
WHILE THE CONVERSATION AROUND
HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN ILLICIT
MASSAGE BUSINESSES OFTEN FOCUSES
ON THE HARM TO THE VICTIMS OF
THAT CRIME WE CAN'T IGNORE THE
FACT THAT THE EXISTENCE OF THESE
BILLS ILLEGITIMATE VENUES. ALSO
HARMS THERAPEUTIC LEGITIMATE
MASSAGE THERAPIST.
WHEN I LISTEN TO SIZE BUSINESSES
FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMED TO BE PART
OF THE MASSAGE INDUSTRY THEY PUT
THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE THERAPISTS
AT RISK BISEXUAL ISING THIS NON
SEXUAL LEGITIMATE HEALTH
PROFESSION. THIS ACTUALIZATION
OF MASSAGE INSPIRES BUYERS TO
HARASS AND ASSAULT THERAPIST IN
THOSE THERAPEUTIC SETTINGS FROM
HIGH PROFILE BUYERS WE'VE SEEN
IN THE PAST LIKE HARVEY
WEINSTEIN STEVE WYNN AND
STANLEY.
TO NUMEROUS EVERY DAY BUYERS
WITH SIMILARLY WARPED
EXPECTATIONS
AND INVITES HUMAN TRAFFICKING
INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH
ABUNDANCE.
THE METHODOLOGY WE USE
TO MAKE THIS ANALYSIS.
WAS RELEASED IN REPORT THIS
YEAR JANUARY TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
AND IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT
ON ELICITED SIZED BUSINESSES
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES BUT
AMEND. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THAT UNITED STATES COVERAGE
BECAUSE CALIFORNIA HAS THIRTY
FIVE PERCENT OF THE LISTA
MASSAGE BUSINESSES WE
IDENTIFIED.
AND CONNECTIONS TO THE ILLICIT
MASSAGE NETWORKS IN EVERY STATE
IN THE COUNTRY SO I THINK THAT
THAT NATIONAL REVIEW IS
RELEVANT.
TO BUILD THIS REPORT WE
UNDERTOOK A RIGOROUS EIGHTEEN
MONTH DATA COLLECTION EFFORT WE
LOOKED AT HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE
CRIMINAL CASE DOCKETS OVER THREE
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE
ADDITIONAL AND UNIQUE PROSECUTED
LISTA MASSAGE BUSINESSES. WE
LISTENED TO KNOWLEDGE FROM OVER
THIRTEEN HUNDRED SURVIVOR
EXPERIENCES GATHERED IN FOCUS
GROUPS
WE RESEARCHED HOW VICTIMS
RECRUITED STUDYING PATTERNS
ACROSS OVER SEVENTEEN THOUSAND
ADVERTISEMENTS IN CALIFORNIA NEW
YORK AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA
RECRUITMENT VIA WECHAT KACAU
TALK WHICH ARE ACT.
WE CONSULTED WITH THE CA MTC
ABOUT SEVENTY BE. AYE A MTA WE
TALKED A LOT WITH BAD HOME ABOUT
WAS THAT IMPACTS ON ILLEGITIMATE
PROFESSION AS WELL WE COLLECTED
TWENTY ONE MONTHS WORTH OF U. S.
MEDIA COVERAGE OF INVESTIGATIONS
AND ARRESTS AND ALYSSA MASSAGE
BUSINESSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND TO UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL
LANDSCAPE ACROSS THE COUNTRY
WHICH WILL BE THE BULK OF WHAT I
FOCUS ON TODAY WE LOOKED AT THE
CIVIL CODE FOR OVER THIRTY
THOUSAND UNITED STATES
JURISDICTIONS INCLUDING STATE
CITY AND COUNTY LOS.
TO ROUND OUT ALL OF THIS
INFORMATION ARE ANALYSTS ADDED
OVER SIXTY THOUSAND PIECES OF
ADDITIONAL OPEN SOURCE DATA FROM
BUYER REVIEW BOARDS SOCIAL MEDIA
BUSINESS RECORDS AND OTHER OPEN
SOURCE DATA SETS.
TO HELP US CONNECT ALL OF THOSE
DATA POINTS TO ONE ANOTHER IS A
PRETTY MASSIVE PROJECT.
AND THEN WHEN WE COMBINED IN
CROSS REFERENCE ALL OF THAT
DATA.
WITH OUR INTERNAL HOTLINE DATA
WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE MORE
THAN NINE THOUSAND ILLICIT
MASSAGE BUSINESSES OPERATING ON
ANY GIVEN DAY IN AMERICA IN
EVERY SINGLE STATE.
CALIFORNIA IS RANKED NUMBER ONE
IN THE NATION FOR CONCENTRATION
OF AYE MPS.
OVER THIRTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE
NATION'S NINE THOUSAND OPERATE
IN CALIFORNIA WHERE THERE ARE
OVER THREE THOUSAND THREE
HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE LISTA
MASSAGE BUSINESSES. PRESENTED
SCALE CONSIDER THAT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HAS ONLY THREE
HUNDRED AND TWENTY NIGHT IN AND
OUT BURGERS.
AND ONLY TWENTY.
FIFTY STARBUCKS ARE FAT SO
THERE'S MORE AS A MASSAGE
BUSINESSES THAN STARBUCKS AND
TEN TIMES AS MANY AS A MASSAGE
BUSINESS AS IN AND OUT.
I'M AND I'M FROM ORANGE COUNTY
CALIFORNIA WHICH HAS THREE
HUNDRED AND NINE.
THREE SORRY THREE HUNDRED NINETY
ILLICIT MASSAGE BUSINESS AND
THAT'S THE COUNTY WITH THE THIRD
HIGHEST CONCENTRATION IN THE
ENTIRE UNITED STATES BEHIND ONLY
NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES.
MANY CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY ARE
AMONGST THE CITIES WITH THE
HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF ILLICIT
MASSAGE BUSINESSES AND THE
ENTIRE COUNTRY THERE IN THE TOP
ONE HALF OF A PERCENTAGE FOR
HIGHEST VOLUME ALYSSA MASSAGE
BUSINESSES.
AN ORANGE COUNTY'S OUT ALONE I
DON'T WANT TO SINGLE THEM OUT.
ALMOST EVERY MAJOR COUNTY IN
CALIFORNIA IS SIMILARLY SHARING
THAT TOP HALF PERCENT SPOT THE
BAY AREA LOS ANGELES SAN DIEGO.
EVERY MAJOR CALIFORNIA COUNTY IS
OVERRUN WITH THESE ILLICIT
VENUES WE BOUGHT PASS THEM EVERY
DAY BUT DON'T PAY THEM ANY
NOTICE.
THEY ARE ABLE TO HIDE IN PLAIN
SIGHT IN STRIP MALLS AND ON CITY
STREETS IN PART BECAUSE MOST
PEOPLE THINK WHAT'S GOING ON IN
THESE ESTABLISHMENTS IS A VICTIM
IT. VICTIMLESS CRIME BUT
ACCORDING TO OUR RESEARCH.
INCLUDING THOSE OVER FOURTEEN
HUNDRED SURVIVOR STORIES I
MENTIONED EARLIER THAT'S NOT THE
CASE.
THROUGH DIRECT SERVICE PROVISION
SURVIVOR FOCUS GROUPS AND WORK
WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT PLAYERS IS PUT
TOGETHER A DETAILED PICTURE OF
WHAT LIFE IS LIKE IN AYE AND
THESE.
ALYSSA MASSAGE BUSINESSES I KEEP
CALLING THEM I AND THESE.
WE FOUND THAT THE VAST MAJORITY
OF WOMEN PROVIDING SEXUAL
SERVICES IN THEM ARE VICTIMS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
THE WOMAN INVOLVED IN VIRTUALLY
ALL FROM KOREA OR CHINA SPEAK
LIMITED ENGLISH.
ARE BETWEEN THE AGES OF THIRTY
FIVE AND FIFTY FIVE ON AVERAGE
AND MOST OF THEM ARE MOTHERS OF
CHILDREN TO SUPPORT BACK HOME
THEIR RECRUITED THROUGH
ADVERTISEMENTS THAT MAKE FALSE
PROMISES ABOUT THE KIND OF WHAT
WE WILL DO YOU. AND THE PAY THEY
WILL RECEIVE.
WHEN THEY ARRIVE FOR THE JOB
THEIR WEAPON RAPIDLY SWEPT INTO
A COMPLEX WEB OF SYSTEMS
DESIGNED TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING
ABLE TO ACTUALLY LEAVE THE
BUSINESS.
THE WOMEN ARE CONTROLLED THROUGH
FRAUDULENT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW
IT WORKS IN AMERICA THERE.
COERCED THROUGH THE DEBT THAT
THEY INCURRED EITHER BEFORE THEY
CAME TO THE UNITED STATES OR IN
THE PROCESS OF COMING TO UNITED
STATES THEY'RE VERY RARELY AWARE
OF THEIR RIGHTS HERE IN THE
COUNTRY. AND AUGUST UNAWARE OF
THE PROTECTIONS AND HELP THAT
ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THE TRAFFICKERS OFTEN MAKE A
POINT TO TELL THE WOMEN THAT THE
POLICE WILL NOT HELP THEM. AND
EVEN LIES SAYING THAT THE POLICE
ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE
TRAFFICKING OPERATIONS.
WHEN I GET LEADER TO TALKING
ABOUT ENFORCEMENT WHEN THE
EMPHASIS ON THE ENFORCEMENT FOR
HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS ON THE
WORKERS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING
IT ONLY INSPIRES AND EMPOWERS
THIS LIVE BY THE TRAFFICKERS. BY
SHOWING THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN
LOOKING AT ME BUT THERE SURE IS
ACTING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO
YOU.
A VICTIMS OF MASSAGE PARLOR
TRACKING ARE ALSO CONTROLLED BY
EXTREME CULTURAL MANIPULATION
AND COERCION. TRAFFICKERS RIGHT
TO TELL THEIR FAMILIES AND
FRIENDS BACK HOME WHAT EXACTLY
THEY'RE DOING HERE WHICH WOULD
NOT ONLY BRING SHAME TO THEM BUT
ALSO TO THEIR ENTIRE FAMILIES IN
A VERY HIERARCHICAL CULTURE.
HOUSING IS PROVIDED BY
TRAFFICKERS OFTEN AS A METHOD OF
CONTROL.
THE TRAVEL IS ALSO.
TYPICALLY PART OF THE
TRAFFICKERS OFFERINGS WHICH IS
ALSO A FORM OF CONTROL.
DO TO THE PERVASIVE CULTURAL
SHAME WE DISCUSSED VICTIMS OF
MASSAGE PARLOR TRAFFICKING
RARELY SELF IDENTIFIES VICTIMS.
ADDITIONALLY THEIR LACK OF
KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROTECTIONS
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES
CONTRIBUTE TO THAT LACK OF SELF
IDENTIFICATION.
THIS MAKES IDENTIFYING THE SWARM
OF TRAFFICKING THROUGH TYPICAL
INVESTIGATIVE METHODS INCREDIBLY
DIFFICULT AND REQUIRES A NEW
APPROACH.
SO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROBLEM
REQUIRES SORT OF COMPLEX AN
INNOVATIVE SOLUTION SO WHEN WE
LOOK AT ENFORCEMENT IT CAN'T
JUST BE AN EMPHASIS ON LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS TO BE CODED
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ENFORCEMENT
AS WELL.
SO THROUGH OUR FEET WORK IN THE
FIELD WITH OVER ONE HUNDRED
FIFTY CRIMINAL AND CIVIL
ENFORCEMENT AGENTS LEGISLATORS
AND SERVICE PROVIDERS ACROSS
THIRTY TWO STATES TWENTY PERCENT
OF WHICH ARE PARTNERS HERE IN
THE GREAT STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
VERY DEFIED BEST PRACTICES FOR
ERADICATING ILLICIT MASSAGE
BUSINESS TRAFFICKING.
WHICH COMES DOWN TO THE POINT
OF TODAY'S HEARING.
RATHER THAN SHUTTING DOWN I AM
THESE ONE BY ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT
CAN INVESTIGATE LISTA MASSAGE
BUSINESSES AS ORGANIZED CRIME
NETWORKS BUILDING CIRCUMSTANTIAL
KEY SAYS AND GOING AFTER THE
MONEY. THE TAX EVASION THE WAGE
AND HOUR VIOLATIONS THESE ARE
LONG TERM INVESTIGATIONS THAT
REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT CROSS AGENCY
COLLABORATION. AND IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO DO THIS TYPE OF
FOLLOW THE MONEY INVESTIGATION
TO END THE TRAFFICKING.
BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY.
AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE OF
VACAVILLE NOTED CODE ENFORCEMENT
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
SHOULD AND DO FOCUS ON THE
BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT HERE TODAY. WHEREAS LAW
ENFORCEMENT'S FOCUS ON THE MORE
CRIMINAL ELEMENTS.
IF WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IS THE
HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND NOT THE
WOMEN BEING TRAFFICKED THAN
FOCUSING ON THEIR ROLE AS
MASSAGE THERAPISTS WERE
FRAUDULENT MASSAGE THERAPIST IS
KNOCKING AND TRAFFICKING IT'S
JUST GOING TO POLICE AND ALREADY
VULNERABLE POPULATION. THE FOCUS
FOR THESE ORDINANCES HOWEVER
SHOULD BE ON SPECIFIC BUSINESS
OPERATIONS.
COMMUNITIES WHERE BUSINESS
REGULATIONS ARE STRONG AND WELL
ENFORCED CREATE AN INTOLERABLE
ENVIRONMENT FOR TRAFFIC CURSED
OPERATE WHILE ALSO PROTECTING
THE LEGITIMATE MASSAGE
PROFESSION.
SO ESPECIALLY RELEVANT TODAY'S
HEARING STRONG CIVIL LAWS
REGULATING MASSAGE BUSINESSES
THAT DO NOT EMPHASIZE THERAPIST
BEHAVIOR AND DO EMPHASIZE THE
BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND THOSE
WHO HAVE POWER AND CONTROL TO
MAKE THOSE BUSINESS DECISIONS.
ARE THE STRONGEST FOR ENDING
TRAFFICKING THESE STANDARDS CAN
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE REGULATING
THE HOURS OF OPERATION SO THAT
THEY CAN'T. BE OFFERING MASSAGE
AT TWO AM.
AS WELL AS RULES AROUND
ENTRANCES AND EXITS.
MANY OF THE I AM EASILY SEEN
ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE A FRONT
DOOR THAT'S BASICALLY NEVER BEEN
UNLOCKED AND THE WINDOWS ARE
BLACKOUT TAINT IN THE BUILDINGS
LOOK ABANDONED. MEN ENTER
THROUGH THE BACK ALLEYS AND SIDE
ENTRANCES THAT ARE HARDLY EVER
LOCKED.
EVERY ENTRANCE HAS SIGNIFICANT
CCTV SURVEILLANCE TO SEE WHO IS
AT THE DOOR AND WHO'S COMING IN
AND TYPICALLY BUZZER ENTRY AS
PART OF ALLOWING THE BUYERS IN.
THESE ARE NOT TYPICAL FOR AN
ORDINARY LEGITIMATE MASSAGE.
PROFESSION.
AND.
THEY ALSO HAVE OBSCURED REASONS
FOR CUSTOMER PRIVACY AS WELL
THAT THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE
LANDSCAPE ACROSS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BUT ALSO THE UNITED
STATES I DON'T WANNA SINGLE
CALIFORNIA NOW IT'S NOT UNIQUE.
IN THIS SIGNIFICANT GAP BUT
THERE ARE GAPS AT EVERY LEVEL OF
JURISDICTION FROM MANY IN THIS
STATE WHO HAVE NO REGULATIONS AT
ALL TO THOSE WITH WEAK
REGULATIONS. CONTAINING
LOOPHOLES FOR TRAFFICKERS TO
EXPLOIT.
SOME JURISDICTIONS FOCUS
REGULATORY ATTENTION SOLELY ON
MASSAGE THERAPISTS AND OTHER
EMPLOYEES.
FOR EXAMPLE AN EMPHASIS ON
LICENSING STANDARDS A PROPER
ATTIRE ETCETERA. AND WHILE WE'RE
NOT SAYING THAT THOSE ARE GOOD
OR BAD WE ARE SAYING THAT THOSE
DON'T HAVE MUCH OF APPEARING ON
ACTUALLY ENDING TRAFFICKING SO
IN THIS TRAFFICKING SPECIFIC
APPROACH THAT I'M BRINGING. THE
BUSINESS ITSELF THE STRUCTURE
OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT OWNERSHIP
NEEDS TO BE WHERE THE CLOSET IS
A FOCUS SO ENFORCEMENT OF THESE
EMPLOYEES CENTER LOS. WHEN THE
LAWS ARE EMPLOYEE CENTERED AND
THEN WE'RE ONLY ENFORCING THEM
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REINFORCING
TRAFFICKING BY ONLY HAVING
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE POTENTIAL
VICTIMS. WITH NO CONSEQUENCES
FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY
EXPLOITING THEM.
WHAT WE HAVE ALSO SEEN IN
TRACKING THE MEDIA OVER THE PAST
TWO YEARS OF MASSAGE BUSINESS
ORDINANCES AT THAT ONE A STRONG
LAW PASSES IN ONE JURISDICTION
OR CURRENT LAW BEGINS TO ENJOY
STRONG ENFORCEMENT TRAFFICKERS
MOVE THEIR OPERATIONS TO A
NEARBY CITY OR COUNTY? THAT HAS
WEAKER LAWS OR WEAKER
ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.
OFTEN TO STORE FRONTS THE
ALREADY OWNER USE THAT ALREADY
EXIST WITHIN THEIR ORGANIZED
CRIMINAL NETWORK THAT'S ENJOYING
THE LACK OF REGULATION THAT HAS
EXPERIENCED TO DATE.
SO THE SOLUTION IS TO CREATE AN
INESCAPABLE SITUATION WHERE
STATES COUNTIES AND CITIES ARE
ALL EXERTING EQUIVALENT PRESSURE
TO MAKE ILLICIT MASSAGE BUSINESS
TRAFFICKING IMPOSSIBLE.
WELL HERE TODAY WE CAN'T TALK
ABOUT EVERY OTHER SEAT WHAT WE
CAN TALK ABOUT IS EVERY OTHER
COUNTY AND CITY IN THIS GREAT
STATE. THAT ENCOMPASSES OVER
THIRTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE
NATION'S I AM BEES AND WOULD
SURELY HAVE RIPPLE EFFECTS FOR
THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IF WE TRULY
CRACKED DOWN IN A CONCERTED WAY.
ASIDE FROM HAVING THIRTY FIVE
PERCENT OF THE I AM THESE
CALIFORNIA ALSO CONTAINS TWO OF
THE THREE MAIN CITIES IN THE
COUNTRY TO WHICH WOMEN ARE
INITIALLY RECRUITED AND BEGIN
THEIR TRAFFICKING SPURIOUS IS
LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO.
WELL CALIFORNIA'S STATEWIDE LAW
MENTIONS THE MASSAGE INDUSTRY
THE CURRENT LAW DOES NOT
DIRECTLY REGULATE MASSAGE
BUSINESS OPERATIONS WITHIN THE
STATE. NOR DOES IT INSPIRE OTHER
COUNTIES AND CITIES TO TAKE THAT
APPROACH IN THEIR REGULATION.
CLAIRE CONDUCTED RESEARCH OF THE
MASSAGE ORDINANCES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA TO DETERMINE WHETHER
OR NOT THOSE REGULATIONS ARE IN
FACT FOCUSED ON LOOPHOLES IN
BUSINESS REGULATION. EXPLOITED
BY TRAFFICKERS
WHERE THEY CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE
CONSEQUENCES ARE POTENTIALLY
TRAFFICKED WOMEN WHILE AVOIDING
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE TRAFFICKER.
WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT OF THE
FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX
JURISDICTIONS WE LOOKED ON
CALIFORNIA ONLY TWENTY SEVEN
PERCENT HAVE ORDINANCES WHICH
CONTAINED AT LEAST THREE STRONG
CAUSES THAT SEEKS TO AND MASSAGE
PARLOR TRAFFICKING? BY FOCUSING
ON THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
WHILE ONLY THREE JURISDICTIONS
IN THE STATE.
HAVE ORDINANCES THAT WE
IDENTIFIED THAT SPECIFICALLY
TARGET THE WORKERS AND OVER
EMPHASIZE THE WORKERS RARELY DO
THEREMAINING FIVE HUNDRED AND
THIRTY THREE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT
THAT THE OWNERS AND MANAGERS
BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR
THOSE CODE VIOLATIONS. AND THAT
ANY VIOLATIONS WOMEN ARE
POTENTIALLY EITHER FORCED TO
ENGAGE IN OR DOING EACH AND ARE
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNERS
AND OPERATORS OF THIS
BUSINESSES.
THIS CREATES AN UNCLEAR
SITUATION RECORD IMPORTANT CAN
AND OFTEN DOES AND WE'VE SEEN
ACROSS THE MEDIA WE'VE ANALYZE
CHOOSE TO PENALIZE POTENTIAL
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS INSTEAD OF
POTENTIAL TRAFFICKERS.
DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ITS ROLE AS A PORT OF
AT TWO OF THE MAIN PORTS OF
ENTRY FOR THE VICTIMS INTO THIS
TYPE OF TRAFFICKING IN THE
OVERALL EXTENT OF ITS I AM BE
PROBLEM.
THE CREATION OF A STRONGER
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AT THE
STATE LEVEL WOULD SUPPORT.
BUSINESS OPERATION LAWS WITH
STRONG ANTI TRAFFICKING MEASURES
A LOCAL IN CITY COUNTY LEVELS.
COULD HAVE RIPPLE EFFECTS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY SO MY PATINA PLAYERS
A SUPPORTED ALREADY EAT STEEP
LEVEL AND TWENTY FOUR LOCAL CITY
AND COUNTY LEVEL MASSAGE
ORDINANCE IS BEING PASSED.
PROPOSED AND MANY HAVE PASSED
MANY ARE IN THE PROCESS AT THE
MOMENT AND MOST OF THEM ARE ALL
OF THE ONES WE RIGHT UMBER SPIN
RESPONSIBLE TO YOU THEME THAT
SUPPORTING THE MASSAGE
PROFESSION WHILE CLOSING THOSE
LOOPHOLES SO. THE MASSAGE
PROFESSION AS YOU ALL HAVE DONE
TODAY SHOULD BE CONVENED AND
PART OF THAT CONVERSATION TO
MAKE SURE THAT. THESE
TRAFFICKING CLAUSES ARE NOT
UNDULY BURDENSOME ON THE
THERAPISTS THEMSELVES FOR
EXAMPLE WE'VE LEARNED THAT THE
LOCKED FRONT DOOR IS SHOULDN'T.
SHOULD ALSO HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS
FOR SOLE PRACTITIONERS WHO MAY
BE THE ONLY PERSON THERE
OBVIOUSLY BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT WE SHOULD FIND A WAY TO
CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE ALSO
UPLIFTING EMPOWERING THE MASSAGE
PROFESSION.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT.
RESULT OF TODAY COULD BE STRONG
CIVIL REGULATIONS AND
ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE REGULATIONS
THAT ARE MODELED BY OTHER
JURISDICTIONS CURRENTLY IN
CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO IS A
PRETTY SHINING EXAMPLE THAT WE
USE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. OF A
REALLY STRONG LAW THAT IS USED
NOT ONLY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH BUT ALSO THE RED LIGHT
NUISANCE ABATEMENT SEPARATELY
FROM NOT TO REALLY BUILD ON AND
ELIMINATE TRAFFICKING. AND WHAT
WE'VE SEEN THERE AS WELL AS IN
SANTA CLARA THAT WHEN THEY CLOSE
THE MASSAGE BUSINESS IS WITH
THOSE ORDINANCES THEY DON'T
REOPEN. SO IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT
THEY DON'T REOPEN ELSEWHERE IN
THE BAY AREA BUT THERE AT LEAST
LEAVING THOSE AREAS I HAVE
CHOSEN TO MEET THEIR REGULATORY
FRAMEWORK. INHOSPITABLE TO THIS
TYPE OF BUSINESS.
A.
AND LOS ANGELES HIGHS.
DIE IN THE PROCESS NOW AS WELL
SO IT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN AND I
THINK THE CONTINUED GUIDANCE AT
THE STATE LEVEL COULD.
CONTINUE THAT WAY IF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT.
.
THE SAN FRANCISCO AND LOS
ANGELES ARE THE TWO.
MOST PROMINENT PLACES I GUESS
FOR THAT THIRTY FIVE.
PERCENT OF THE NINE THOUSAND
THAT WE WERE IN IT BUT THEN YOU
ALSO SAID THAT SAN FRANCISCO HAS
ONE OF THE BEST. ORDINANCES IN
TERMS OF RESTRICTING HOW IT
SEEMS.
F. CONTRADICTORY ABSOLUTELY SO
SAN FRANCISCO IS I MEAN PORT OF
ENTRY FOR THE WOMEN TO BEGIN
BEING TRAFFICKED TO BEGIN
CERTAIN LEVELS OF EXPLOITATION
ALSO IT'S WHERE THEY MIGHT BE
RECRUITED INTO JOIN THE NETWORK
BUT THE BUSINESSES THEMSELVES
THAT THEY MIGHT FIRST BE TRAFFIC
OUT OF AREN'T NECESSARILY IN.
SAN FRANCISCO.
SANFRANCISCO PROPER ICY LOOK
INCLUDED THEY QUESTIONS YES.
SENATOR NUNN ATMOSPHERE LIKE I
ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN REPRESENT A
PART OF ORANGE COUNTY.
AND SO IT OUT OF CURIOSITY TO
WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT THE
VERY HIGH. A LEVEL THE
CONCENTRATION BUSINESSES IS IT.
YEAH MIGHT BECOME NATION
ENFORCEMENT DEMAND OR IS IT
SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEXUS.
APPROACH IN BE THE NEXUS FOR
TRAFFICKING THAT WOULD THAT
WOULD LEAD TO THAT.
I THINK EVERYTHING THAT YOU
MENTIONED AS WELL AS.
.
THE TRAVEL ROUTE FROM SO SOME
OUR BRIAN ACROSS THE BORDER IN
SAN DIEGO AS WELL SO JUST THAT
ORANGE COUNTY'S SORT OF
CENTRALIZED LOCATION FOR THE
TRAVEL ROUTES TO THEN BE
FUNNELED TO THE REST OF THE
STATE'S. BUT ALSO I WOULD ARGUE
THAT IT'S DEMAND HIGH POPULATION
CITIES AND AREAS TEND TO HAVE A
HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF LISTEN
SIZE BUSINESSES RURAL AREAS
OBVIOUSLY HAVE THEM BUT THE MORE
PEOPLE YOU HAVE THEIR THE HIGHER
THE DEMAND TENDS TO BE.
THANK YOU MEASURE THANK YOU
SENATOR NEWMAN OF.
YOU MENTIONED.
ALSO THAT IT.
GOING AFTER OR REGULATING THE
MASSAGE THERAPIST ISN'T QUITE
HAS. THAT KIND OF.
CRIMINALIZES THE THERAPIST
THROUGH THE TRAFFIC TO
INDIVIDUAL VERSUS GOING AFTER
THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT MAY HAVE
UP.
A GREATER ROLE OR MORE SUCCESS
IN TERMS OF CLOSING DOWN BUT IF
YOU'RE.
IF.
THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS REQUIRE
CERTIFICATION OF EVERY MASSAGE
THERAPIST
IN THEIR JURISDICTION.
THEN THAT WOULD PUT I WOULD
THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME
THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS OUT OF
BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE
NO ONE TO.
TO BE IN THE FACILITY THAT COULD
EVEN FRONT AS A MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENT.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THERE'S?
A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS SUPPLY AND
THE WOMEN ARE DISPOSABLE TO THE
TRAFFICKERS TO SO YOU CAN JUST
KEEP TAKING THEM AND THEY'LL
KEEP REPLACING THEM WE NEED TO
BE GOING AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT.
ARE SUPPORTING THEM ON A DAILY
BASIS.
VERY GOOD THANK YOU.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR.
FOR THE. AREA. TROUBLING
TESTIMONY.
VERY WELL DONE THAT DOESN'T
HAPPEN OFTEN THOSE GLOBALLY.
OR AT ALL ACTUALLY.
COULD NOW IF WE COULD BRING OUR
NEXT TYPICAL FORWARD.
.
THE.
LIKE INVITE THE.
IF THE.
DON'T MISS EAGLE.
PLEASE COME OF THE THIS IS WE
ARE NEXT PANEL ON. A I'D AND
RIVER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA AGENDA
REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IN
SUCH THERAPY ESTABLISHMENT
ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
IS ALISON SPIEGEL THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL FOR THE MASSAGE THERAPY
ACCOUNT WHO WILL TALK TO US
ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND
DISCIPLINE.
AND.
IN INSTANCES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
BY MASSAGE THERAPISTS AND.
MISS BEVERLY MAY WHO IS THE
AGAINST BECAUSE ABOUT THE
COUNCIL'S INVOLVEMENT IN HUMAN
TRAFFICKING ISSUES.
TWO VERY FAMILIAR FACES TO OUR.
OUR OUR COMMITTEE AND TO OUR
HEARINGS AND.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR BEING
HERE TODAY AND IN THE GOOD WORK
THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE
COUNCIL SO THANK YOU DISTINCTLY
GOOD AFTERNOON WELCOME CHAIRMAN
HELL AND IF IT'S IF IT'S OKAY
EVER GONNA HAVE BEVERLY MAY.
ADDRESS YOU FIRST OF ALL I
THINK IT THANK YOU.
MAKE GOOD AFTERNOON. PILLOW.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN HELEN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
BEVERLY MANY AND AND I AM
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
AND SPECIAL. PROJECTS FOR THE
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE HIGHER
OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT CMT
SEIZE ACTIONS ON HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
I'D LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY
RECOGNIZE POLARIS FOR INVITING
ME TO THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN
WASHINGTON DC FIRST FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL MEETING. AND THEN
INVITING CMC C. O PART BE PART
OF THEIR MASSAGE THERAPY
ADVISORY GROUP.
WELL WE CONTINUE TO ADDRESS
HUMAN TRAFFICKING I'M PROUD TO
NOTE THAT OUR MULTIFACETED
EFFORTS ARE CLEARLY WORKING.
WITH CA MTC DOING ITS PART TO
HELP KEEP CALIFORNIA SAFE AND
ARE OVER FIFTY THOUSAND
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS WORKING TO
SUPPORT THE HEALTH AND WELL
BEING OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL HAS BEEN ON THE
FOREFRONT OF THE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING ISSUE. SINCE ITS
INCEPTION NEARLY A DECADE AGO.
TODAY WE'RE WORKING TO PREVENT
TRAFFICKING ON A NUMBER OF
FRONTS AND I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY
FOCUS ON SEVERAL OF OUR
INITIATIVES.
TRAFFICKING IN MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENTS STARTS WITH
FRAUDULENT SCHOOLS WHICH ISSUE
TRANSCRIPTS FOR EDUCATION THAT'S
NOT ACTUALLY RECEIVED.
HUMAN TRAFFICKERS SEEKING AIR OF
LEGITIMACY FOR THE ILLEGAL
BUSINESSES.
IT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY PURCHASING
DIPLOMAS.
SINCE TWO THOUSAND SINCE JULY
FIRST OF TWO THOUSAND AND
SIXTEEN CA MTC HAS ONLY ACCEPTED
EDUCATION FROM SCHOOLS THAT IT
HAS INSPECTED.
TERMIN MEET OUR HIGH STANDARDS
AND APPROVED PRIOR TO THIS NEW
PROCESS
CNPC HAD ALSO IDENTIFIED SEVENTY
SEVEN SCHOOLS. THAT IT WOULD NOT
ACCEPT EDUCATION FROM EVEN
THOUGH THEY WERE ALL APPROVED AT
THE TIME AND MOST STILL ARE BY
THE BUREAU OF PRIVATE
POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION.
BY REFUSING TO ACCEPT EDUCATION
FROM SCHOOLS THAT
FAIL TO MEET OUR HIGHER HIGH
STANDARDS WERE CUTTING OFF THE
LIFEBLOOD OF HUMAN TRAFFICKERS.
WE CONTINUE TO EDUCATE OUR
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS TO RECOGNIZE
THE SIGNS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING
THROUGH ONGOING COMMUNICATION.
INCLUDING THE DISTRIBUTION OF A
NEW BROCHURE FOCUSING ON
TRAFFICKING AND THEM MASSAGE
PROFESSIONALS ROLE IN
PREVENTION.
WHILE THE FOCUS IN CALIFORNIA IS
ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND
PROTECTING THE VICTIMS.
THE FACT IS THAT IN THIS STATE
AS WELL AS OTHERS THE PUBLIC
JUSTICE NOT WANT ILLICIT MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENTS IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES WHETHER THERE'S
TRAFFICKING GOING ON OR NOT.
IT'S THE CITIES IN THE COUNTIES
RESPONSIBILITIES TO REGULATE
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.
CMT SEE.
SUPPORTS LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN
ACHIEVING THIS GOAL BY TATE
TAKING QUICK SWIFT ACTION
AGAINST APPLICANTS. AND
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS THAT ENGAGE
IN ILLICIT ACTIVITIES AND
PROVIDING NO COST SPECIALIZED
TRAINING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
IF THE OWNER IS CERTIFIED CMT
SEE ALSO TAKES ACTION AGAINST
THE OWNER AND.
AND IN EVERY ORDINANCE OR MOST
OF THE ORDINANCES AND CITIES
THAT I'VE WORKED WITH TO REQUIRE
TO HOLD THE OWNER WHETHER
THEY'RE CERTIFIED OR NOT.
RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL BEHAVIOR IN
THE ESTABLISHMENT.
CA MTC HAS ADDED SIGNIFICANT
RESOURCES THROUGH OUR
INVESTIGATION STAFF.
SO WHEN A COMPLAINT IS FILED
WITH ABLE TO QUIT.
QUICKLY TAKE ACTION.
APPROPRIATE ACTION IN
COOPERATION WITH LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES CODE
ENFORCEMENT AND HEALTH AND
DEPARTMENTS.
THIS RAPID RESPONSE IS THE
RESULT OF THE UNIQUE INDEPENDENT
STRUCTURE OF CMT SEE.
WHICH ALLOWS US TO ACT MUCH
FASTER THAN TRADITIONAL
GOVERNMENTAL LICENSING AGENCIES.
CA MTC ALSO ASSIST LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS IN DEVELOPING
REGULATIONS AND SO
SHARING BEST PRACTICES.
THAT A WORKING IN OTHER CITIES
AND COUNTIES.
AND I AM ESPECIALLY PROUD OF OUR
NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION WHICH PROVIDES US
THE ABILITY TO EDUCATE LAW
ENFORCEMENT. IN THE EFFORT TO
PREVENT TRAFFICKING.
NO SINGLE ORGANIZATION CAN
PREVENTIVE AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CAL CHIEFS OR
CENTRAL TO OUR WORK.
IN FACT WE WORK WITH NUMEROUS
ANTI TRAFFICKING TASK FORCES AND
ORGANIZATIONS.
SO THAT IN THE EVENT AN
APPLICANT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS
A VICTIM OR PERPETRATOR OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
I PROCESS WOULD SWIFTLY AND
EFFICIENTLY MAKE SURE THAT CA
MTC CERTIFICATION. COULD NOT BE
USED AS A SUB TO FUSE FOR
ILLICIT ACTIVITY.
EARLIER THIS MONTH THE SAN
FRANCISCO MAYOR STE TASK FORCE
ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF WHICH
I'M A MEMBER. RELEASED ITS THIRD
ANNUAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING REPORT.
IN TWO THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN
EIGHTEEN PUBLIC AND NONPROFIT
AGENCIES IN THE TASK FORCE
IDENTIFIED FIVE HUNDRED AND
TWENTY NINE SURVIVORS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
INDUSTRIES IN WHICH TRAFFICKING
SHOWS UP IN SAN FRANCISCO
ACCORDING TO THE REPORT OUR
DOMESTIC WORK.
ESCORT SERVICES OUTDOOR
SOLICITATION.
CONSTRUCTION HOTELS AND
HOSPITALITY.
RESTAURANTS AND FOOD SERVICES
AGRICULTURE AND ANIMAL
HUSBANDRY.
CLEARLY THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE
HAS NOT FOUND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
IN THE MASSAGE INDUSTRY.
JUST LAST WEEK SAN FRANCISCO
OUTREACH.
VICE STAFF INCLUDING ASIAN
MEMBERS OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH NEWCOMERS
PROGRAM. REPORTED THAT THEY HAVE
VISITED SEVEN FORTY SEVEN
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.
AND THAT HAVE BEEN REFERRED BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER BUT I
MEAN DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AS
ILLICIT ACT. HAVING ILLICIT
ACTIVITIES.
THEY'VE HAD MULTIPLE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS WITH FORTY WOMEN
INCLUDING EIGHT ONE ON ONE.
TRAININGS
NOT ONE HAS A NOT ACKNOWLEDGE
BEING SEXUAL LABOR TRAFFICKED
ALL HAVE DID NOT IN FACT DENIED
BEING TRAFFICKED.
NEVERTHELESS SAN FRANCISCO HAS
RECENTLY BEEN CLOSING ILLICIT.
ESTABLISHMENTS USING.
CIVIL LAWSUITS BY THE AG DA'S
OFFICE AND.
.
AND ENFORCEMENT BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
ALSO LAST WEEK A NEWS HEADLINE
IN BAKERSFIELD ANNOUNCED PUBLIC
HEALTH.
SHUTS DOWN THREE MASSAGE PARLORS
CITING SUSPECTED PROSTITUTION.
I'D LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION
TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE ARTICLE
AND I QUOTE.
WHEN ARTICLE WAS PASSED SOME
KERN COUNTY SUPERVISORS TOUTED
AS A WAY FOR THE. COUNTY TO
CRACK DOWN ON ELICIT BIZ
PARLORS BRINGING JUSTICE TO
VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
SO FAR HOWEVER KERN COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICIALS HAVE NOT
ARRESTED ANYONE FOR HUMAN
TRAFFICKING DURING ONE OF THEIR
STINGS.
NOR HAVE THEY OUR IDENTIFIED
VICTIMS OF TRAFFICKING.
THE RESULTS ANNA KERN COUNTY
DOES REQUIRE CERTIFICATION.
THE RESULT OF OUR EFFORTS A
SPLITTER IN AN AVERAGE YEAR LESS
THAN ONE PERCENT OF OUR
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS ARE THE
SUBJECT OF ANY TYPE OF
INVESTIGATION.
MORE SPECIFICALLY NOT A SINGLE
ONE OF OUR CERTIFICATE HOLDERS
HAVE EVER BEEN REPORTED TO BE A
VICTIM OR PERPETRATOR OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
THIS STRONG RECORD OF KEEPING
HUMAN TRAFFICKING OUT OF
CERTIFICATE. HOLDERS RANKS IS
BECAUSE OF THE DILIGENT WORK OF
CMT SEE AND AS PARTNERS.
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS OVER
THE PAST NINE YEARS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND
ADDRESS THIS VITAL TO THANK YOUS
MAY CRUCIATUS EAGLE.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN HEALTH
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS ALLISON SIEGEL AND I
AM SPECIAL COUNSEL TO THE
CALIFORNIANS SIZE THIRTY
COUNCIL.
ROOMS HUSING. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SEEM TO
SEIZE ACTIONS ON THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE.
SANTEE CA TAKES ALL REPORTS OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT VERY SERIOUSLY.
THESE CASES ARE HIGHEST
PRIORITY.
AND ARE FAST TRACKED THROUGH THE
SYSTEM SO THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
CDC IS UNIQUE IN ITS ABILITY TO
TAKE SWIFT AND DECISIVE ACTION.
IN CASES OF ALLEGED SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MASSAGE
THERAPY ACT.
CMT SEE HAS THE ABILITY TO NOT
JUST DENY APPLICANTS.
AND REVOKE CERTIFICATES.
THEY CAN ALSO IMMEDIATELY
SUSPEND UNDER THE RIGHT
CIRCUMSTANCES.
TWO DIFFERENT BASIS FOR
SUSPENSIONS EXISTS.
UNDER THE FIRST PATIENT BASIS
SUSPENSIONS BASED ON LAW.
CNBC IS REQUIRED TO IMMEDIATELY
SUSPEND.
ONCE IT RECEIVES NOTICE THAT
CRIMINAL CHARGES HAVE BEEN
FILED.
FOR COMMITTED AN ACT PUNISHABLE
AS A SEXUALLY RELATED CRIME.
SUCH AS LEWD CONDUCT
SEXUAL ASSAULTS
RAPE PROSTITUTION PIMPING OR
PANDERING.
IN THESE CASES SANTEE SEE HAS NO
DISCRETION AND MUST IMMEDIATELY
SUSPEND.
AND IT DOES
IN SOME CASES WITHIN ONE DAY
RECEIVING NOTICE THAT CHARGES
HAVE BEEN FILED FOR THESE
EGREGIOUS ACTS.
FOR EXAMPLE SEEM TO SEE RECENT
RECENTLY RECEIVED NOTICE.
THAT CRIMINAL CHARGES WERE FILED
FOR COMMITTING FORCIBLE RAPE.
WHILE PERFORMING A MASSAGE.
THAT CERTIFICATE WAS SUSPENDED
WITHIN ONE DAY.
UNDER THE SECOND BASES
SUSPENSIONS BASED ON EVIDENCE.
CMT SEE MAY ALSO SUSPEND. IF IT
RECEIVES EVIDENCE OTHER
CERTIFICATE HOLDER COMMITTED AN
ACT PUNISHABLE. AS A SEXUALLY
RELATED CRIME OR A RELATED
FELONY.
THIS EVIDENCE USUALLY COMES IN
THE FORM OF A DECLARATION SIGNED
UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY.
IF THE VICTIM IS ENGAGED IN THE
PROCESS AND QUICKLY RETURNS THE
DECLARATION.
THE SUSPENSE AND SUSPENSIONS CAN
ALSO HAPPEN IN A NUMBER OF DAYS.
BOTH SUSPENSIONS PROVIDE SEEM TO
SEE WITH POWERFUL TOOLS TO TAKE
ACTION IN SITUATION WHERE BOARDS
CAN'T.
THESE TWO BASES OPERATE
INDEPENDENTLY.
AND IT' NOT UNCOMMON FOR INJURY
INDIVIDUALS TO BE SUSPENDED
PURSUANT TO BOTH.
IN LEAST DOUBLE SUSPENSION
CASES.
WE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF A
SUSPENSION REMAINING IN PLACE.
EVEN IF THE CRIMINAL CASES
DISMISSED.
IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN ALONE CMT
SEE IMPOSED TWO HUNDRED AND
TWENTY TWO SUSPENSIONS.
WHEN SEEM DC GETS NOTICED THAT A
CERTIFICATE HOLDER HAS BEEN
CHARGED WITH SEXUALLY RELATED
CRIME.
IT CAN AND DOES IMMEDIATELY
SUSPEND.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT CREMONA
VESTED HAITIANS CAN TAKE AWHILE.
AND IT MIGHT BE MONTHS BETWEEN
WHEN A SEXUAL ASSAULT IS
REPORTED TO WHEN CRIMINAL
CHARGES ARE FILED. IF THEY'RE
FILED AT ALL.
BECAUSE CTC IS NOT LIMITED TO
ACTING JUSTIN CASES WERE
CRIMINAL CHARGES ARE FILED OR
CONVICTIONS ARE OBTAINED. IT HAS
THE UNPRECEDENTED ABILITY TO
SUSPEND IN A MUCH QUICKER
FASHION AND ON A MUCH BROADER
BASIS.
ONCE SEEM DC RECEIVED A
COMPLAINT THAT A SEXUAL ASSAULT
OCCURRED. IT BEGINS REVIEWING
AND EVALUATE IN THE MATTER.
WE HAVE A HIGHLY TRAINED TEAM OF
INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE FAMILIAR
BOTH WITH THESE TYPES OF CASES.
AND THE NORMS OF MASSAGE
PRACTICE
WHICH MAKES THEM WELL QUALIFIED
QUALIFIED TO INVESTIGATE AND
EVALUATE CASES.
IN MANY INSTANCES SEXUAL ASSAULT
COMPLAINTS ARE RECEIVED. EITHER
Y. THE CRIMINAL INVASIVENESS
OCCASION IS ONGOING. OR BEFORE
THE INCIDENT HAS EVEN BEEN
REPORTED TO THE POLICE.
THE POWER OF THE ACT IS THAT
ONCE WE HAVE A VICTIM SIGNED
DECLARATION. THE PERPETRATORS
CERTIFICATE CAN BE IMMEDIATELY
SUSPENDED.
CNBC DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR
THE CRIMINOLOGISTS OCCASION TO
BE COMPLETED. OR FOR CHARGES TO
BE FILED IN ORDER TO TAKE THAT
TAKE ACTION.
IT ALSO DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE
OUTCOME OF THE CRIMINAL MATTER
IS.
CMT SEES ACTION STANDS ALONE.
SO EVEN IF THE CRIMINAL MATTER
IS DISMISSED OR THE INDIVIDUAL
IS NOT CONVICTED.
THE SUSPENSION REMAINS IN PLACE.
CMT SEE CAN THEREFORE ACT IN
SITUATIONS WHERE BOTH THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND
STATE BOARDS AND BUREAUS CANNOT.
CMT SEE ALSO REVOKE CERTIFICATES
AND DENIES APPLICATIONS FOR
VIOLATIONS OF THE ACT.
WHICH INCLUDE CONDUCT BASED
VIOLATIONS AND ARE NOT JUST
LIMITED TO CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS.
THIS BROADER POWER TO DENY IN
DISCIPLINE ALLOWS ACTION. FOR
CONDUCT BASED VIOLATIONS THAT DO
NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF SEXUAL
ASSAULTS.
BUT ARE NONETHELESS HIGHLY
CONCERNING INSTANCES OF
UNPROFESSIONAL CONDUCT.
FOR EXAMPLE.
IN ONE MEMORABLE CASE A MASSAGE
THERAPIST SUCKED ON THE TOES OF
A CLIENT DURING A MASSAGE.
THE DA COULD NOT FILE CRIMINAL
CHARGES FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT SINCE
NO INTERIM BODY PART WAS TOUCH.
YET CMT'S HE WAS ABLE TO QUICKLY
REVOKE THE CERTIFICATE.
APPLICANTS APPLYING FROM OTHER
STATES ARE THOROUGHLY VETTED IN
THE SAME MANNER AS CALIFORNIANS.
THEY MUST PASS THE SAME
BACKGROUND CHECKS
AND SEE MT SEE REGULARLY WORKS
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MASSAGE
BOARDS AND OTHER STATES TO GET
EVIDENCE WHEN WARRANTED.
OUT OF STATE EDUCATION IS ONLY
ACCEPTED ONE IS COMPARABLE. TO
ACADEMIC WORK COMPLETED AT A CMT
C. APPROVE MASSAGE PROGRAM.
CMT SEE DOESN'T HAVE RECIPROCITY
WITH ANY OTHER STATE.
THERE FOR THOSE LICENSE AND
OTHER STATES MUST STILL ME ALL
OF THE ACTS REQUIREMENTS FOR
CERTIFICATION.
THE FACT THAT SEEM TO SEE ACT
SWIFTLY AND DECISIVELY. IS BORNE
OUT BY ITS ENFORCEMENT NUMBERS.
THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF DAYS FROM
COMPLETE INTAKE. TO IN THE
POSITION OF FORMAL DISCIPLINE
FOR THE LAST QUARTER OF TWENTY
SEVENTEEN. WAS A HUNDRED AND
FIFTY ONE DAYS.
THIS NUMBER IS IN LINE WITH THE
OTHER QUARTERLY PM FOR AS WE'VE
SEEN. OUR SINCE WE BEGAN
TRACKING THEM IN TWENTY FIFTEEN.
IN CONTRAST THE PM FOR GOAL FOR
THE STATE BOARDS. IS FIVE
HUNDRED AND FORTY DAYS AND IS
NOT REGULARLY MATT.
FOR EXAMPLE AS YOU CAN SEE IN
THE SLIDE HERE.
THE AVERAGE PM FORCE REPORTS
AMBROSE COMBINED FOR THE LAST
FOUR REPORTED QUARTERS WAS A
NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE
DAYS.
SINCE INCEPTION IN TWO THOUSAND
AND NINE THREE TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
SEEM TO SEE HAS TAKEN MORE THAN
NINE THOUSAND DENIAL AND
DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS.
SEEM D. C. DOES NOT REGULATE
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.
ITONLY HAS JURISDICTION OVER
APPLICANTS AND CERTIFICATE
HOLDERS.
BUT IT DOES HAVE THE LEGAL
AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST
THOSE APPLICANTS. AND
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS WHO ARE
OWNERS OR OPERATORS OF MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENTS.
THESE OWNERS AND OPERATORS ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE
CONDUCT THAT OCCURS ON THE
PREMISES.
AND WE COMMONLY TAKE
DISCIPLINARY ACTION WHEN THEY
FAILED TO PROPERLY SUPERVISE
THOSE WORKING FOR THEM.
THE SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES THAT WE
GENERALLY SEE DO APPEAR TO
HAPPEN ACROSS THE BOARD. AT
CHAIN MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS
SMALL INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES AND
SOLE PRACTITIONERS ALIKE.
WELL WE DON'T TEND TO SEE VERY
MANY REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
AND HIGH INTO STYLISH MINTS.
WE HAVE HAD A FEW SO EVEN THEY
ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM THE PROBLEM.
ONE THING WE COMMONLY SEE OUR
PERPETRATORS WHO ENGAGE IN A
CONSISTENT PATTERN OF CONDUCT.
IN MANY CASES ONE ONE VICTIM
COMES FORWARD IT SPURS OTHERS TO
DO THE SAME.
SIMPLY SEE ENCOURAGES ANYONE WHO
WAS INFORMATION ABOUT A MASSAGE
RELATED SEXUAL ASSAULT. TO
REPORT IT BY GOING ON OUR
WEBSITE AND CLICKING ON FILE A
COMPLAINT.
ANYONE CAN FILE A COMPLAINT.
VICTIMS BUSINESSES AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT ALIKE.
WE TAKE ALL REPORTS OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT AND UNPROFESSIONAL
CONDUCT VERY SERIOUSLY.
ALL COMPLAINTS ARE REVIEWED AND
EVALUATED.
WAS SEEM TO SEE DOES NOT
REGULATE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.
BUSINESSES HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY
IN HELPING SEEM TO SEE TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
BUSINESSES TO REPORT AN
INCIDENT.
PROVIDE CORROBORATING DECKER
DECLARATIONS.
AND COOPERATE WITH OUR
INVESTIGATORS HOW PACIFIC THE
BAD APPLES OUT OF THE FAT THE
PROFESSION.
THE FAILING TO REPORT AN
INCIDENT PUTS THE PUBLIC AT
RISK.
AND POTENTIALLY ALLOWS A
HABITUAL OFFENDER TO MOVE ONTO
ANOTHER LOCATION AND MORE
VICTIMS.
BUSINESSES CAN ALSO EDUCATE
VICTIMS ABOUT THE EASE OF
ENGAGING WITH CMT SEEN.
THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE
REQUIRED TO TESTIFY IN COURT FOR
OUR PROCESS.
AND THE SWIFTNESS AND
DECISIVENESS OF OUR DISCIPLINE.
BUSINESSES CAN AND SHOULD
ENCOURAGE VICTIMS TO FILE A
COMPLAINT WITH SEEM TO SEE.
THE MORE COOPERATION WE GET FROM
BUSINESSES THE SAFER THE PUBLIC
IS.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ADDRESS
THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
MICHAEL THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE
WITH VERY THOROUGH. EXPLANATION
OF THE PROCESS KNOW WHEN YOU
HAVE THEIR OFFICE WHO OF US.
.
GONE.
A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN THEY
SHOULD HAVE SO THANK YOU AFTER
THAT AND AND YOU DID COVERED ALL
THE QUESTIONS I HAD ADEQUATE
QUESTIONS WILL.
VERY GOOD THANK YOU SEE COHEN
ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE NEXT
PRESENTATION WHICH MAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR. THE TESTIMONY
TODAY WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR NEXT
PANEL. WHICH IS RECENT
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
CERTIFICATION AND SCHOOL
APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE
CALIFORNIA SUCH THERAPY COUNSEL.
IF YOU'RE NOT NOW.
AND.
MISTER JOE BOB SMITH AND
MYSTICAL TO DISCUSS SCHOOL
APPROVAL PROCESS OF THE COUNCIL.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU
WELCOME.
PRIVILEGE UPHILL COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
I MOST DEFINITELY SEE OVER THE
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL.
LAST SEPTEMBER THE BOARD VOTED
TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO CUSTOMER
SERVICE SO THE CIVIC ASIAN
PROCESS.
SECOND MOST IMPORTANT STRATEGIC
PRIORITY FOR TWO DOZEN EIGHTEEN.
I'M GOING TO DISCUSS THREE
SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES.
THE AVERAGE WAIT TIME AT OUR
CUSTOMER SERVICE CALL CENTER.
TURN AROUND TIME OF NEW
APPLICANTS.
TURNAROUND TIME FOR
CERTIFICATION.
FOR THE CALL CENTER WAY TIME.
THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE
AVERAGE WAIT TIME TO LESS THAN
TWO MINUTES BUT AND OF TWO DOZEN
EIGHTEEN.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART.
AS OF LAST WEEK THE AVERAGE WAIT
TIME WAS NINE SECONDS.
THE SECOND OBJECTIVE IS TO
ACHIEVE BY THE END OF TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN AND MEDIAN
APPROVAL TURNAROUND TIME OF NEW
APPLICATIONS.
THE DO NOT HAVE ANY BACKGROUND
OR EDUCATION ISSUES.
TO BE IN THE MAIL IN A LIST OF
FORTY FIVE DAYS OR LESS FROM THE
TIME COMPLETED APPLICATION IS
RECEIVED.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART.
AS OF THIS MONTH THE TURNAROUND
TIME FOR YOU UP THE CADENCE.
WAS TEN CALENDAR DAYS.
THE THIRD OBJECTIVE.
IS TO BE ACHIEVED ALSO BUT AND
OF TWO DOZEN EIGHTEEN AND MEDIAN
APPROVAL TURNAROUND TIME FOR.
RECERTIFICATION APPLICATIONS
WITHOUT ANY BACKGROUND OR
EDUCATION ISSUES TO BE IN THE
MAIL IN TWENTY FIVE CALLING AND
DAYS FROM THE TIME A COMPLETED
APPLICATION RECEIVED.
AND THIS IS THIS TWENTY FIVE
DAYS TURNAROUND TIME WILL ONLY
BE APPLICABLE TO RECIPROCATION
APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AT LEAST
THIRTY DAYS PRIOR TO EXPIRATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART.
ARE AS OF DECENT MONTHS THE
RECERTIFICATION PROCESSING TIME
IS AT SEVEN CALLING TODAY'S.
TO ACHIEVE THIS KIND OF DRAMATIC
RESULTS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
THE BOARD IS MAKING SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENT THIS YEAR AND
IMPLEMENTING THE IMPROVEMENT OF
CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
WHAT PUBLIC PROTECTION IS OUR
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY?
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
ACIDIFICATION PROCESS IS RIGHT
BEHIND IT.
AND FOR GOOD REASON.
ALL OF US AT CNBC FOR MEMBERS OF
OUR STAFF.
TWO MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD.
SURE THEY BELIEVE THAT WHAT
CERTIFIED MASSAGE PROFESSIONALS
DO.
IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THERE CONTRIBUTION TO THE HEALTH
AND WELL BEING OF OUR SOCIETY.
HAS TO BE RECOGNIZE.
THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THIS
ESSENTIAL SERVICE TO CONSUMERS.
TO EARN A LIVELIHOOD AND TO
SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR
FAMILIES.
LOGIC DEPENDS ON ALL OF US.
THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THE ISSUES
AND CONCERNS HANDLED WITH CARE.
AND RESPECT AS WELL IT HAS.
TO HAVE THEIR CERTIFICATION
PROCESS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE
BEEN DOING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH OF IT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
IT NOW APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK
THAT. YOU'VE DONE IN TRYING TO
STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS AND
ANOTHER SOME QUESTIONS THAT WILL
HAVE A LITTLE LATER ON THAT THE.
MISTER SMITH.
THAT AFTERNOON CHAIR HELL AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M JOE BOB
SMITH DIRECTOR OF CMT SEES
EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK ABOUT RECENT
IMPROVEMENTS TO SEE A MTC SCHOOL
APPROVAL PROCESS.
BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MASSAGE
THERAPIST.
IS A SCHOOL THAT DID ITS JOB
WELL.
CONVERSELY. WHEN PROSTITUTES
HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS AND
SEXUAL PREDATORS POSE AS MASSAGE
THERAPIST.
THEY ARE THE PRODUCT OF A SCHOOL
THAT EITHER HAD NO INTENTION OR
NO ABILITY TO EDUCATE
PROFESSIONAL MASSAGE THERAPIST.
STILL THESE IMPOSTORS WANT TO
LOOK LEGITIMATE THEY NEED THAT
MASSAGE SCHOOL DIPLOMA TO
QUALIFY FOR CA MTC
CERTIFICATION.
TO PERPETRATE THIS CHARADE
CORRUPT YET ENTERPRISING
INDIVIDUALS HAVE POPULATED THE
STATE WITH ILLEGITIMATE MASSAGE
SCHOOLS. BASICALLY DIPLOMA MILLS
AND TEST PREP CENTERS.
BIG AND SMALL A RUN A VARIETY OF
SCAMS.
DEFRAUDING FINANCIAL AID
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS THROUGH
STUDENT VISAS.
PREYING ON NAIVE STUDENTS OR
SIMPLY APPEALING TO ILL
INTENTIONED INDIVIDUALS.
AND TWENTY FIFTEEN THE
LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZE THE
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM AND REQUIRED
CMT SEE TO PROACTIVELY APPROVED
MASSAGE PROGRAMS PROVIDING
EDUCATION FOR CERTIFICATION.
TO DATE THE MTC HAS ON APPROVED
OR DENIED EIGHTY ONE SCHOOLS
WHILE APPROVING NINETY FOUR
CAMPUSES.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE ACCESSIBILITY
OF APPROVED SCHOOLS TO
CALIFORNIA'S POPULATION.
A THIRD PARTY ANALYSIS REVEALED
THAT NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS LIVE WITHIN
A ONE HOUR DRIVE. FROM AN
APPROVED SCHOOL.
SEEING MTC APPROVES SCHOOL
PROCESS IS THOROUGH INVOLVING A
COMPREHENSIVE APPLICATION
BACKGROUND CHECKS SCHEDULED AND
UNSCHEDULED SITE VISITS AND
COMMUNICATION WITH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
BPP .
THE PROCESS CAN TAKE FROM A FEW
MONTHS TO A FEW YEARS LARGELY
DEPENDENT ON THE SCHOOL ITSELF.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE FIFTY ONE
PENDING SCHOOLS MOST SCHOOLS
EXPERIENCING LINK THE
APPLICATION PROCESSES HAVE
FAILED TO MEET DEADLINES.
OR COMPLETE THE APPLICATION OR
RESPOND TIMELY TO REQUEST OR
THEY HAVE PROVIDED INCOMPLETE
MISLEADING OR FRAUDULENT
INFORMATION.
ALSO ADDITIONAL TIME IS ALLOWED
FOR OBTAINING INFORMATION FROM
OUTSIDE SOURCES AND PROVIDING
DUE PROCESS TO SCHOOLS PROPOSED
FOR DENIAL OR UNDER CORRECTIVE
ACTION.
PROTECTING THE PUBLIC MEANS
APPROVING ONLY MASSAGE SCHOOLS
THAT MEET MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS
FOR TRAINING AND CURRICULUM AS
ESTABLISHED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
A RADICALLY ALLEGED SCHOOLS IS
BUT ONE PART OF CA EMPTY SEES
TASK.
WE MUST ALSO VERIFY THAT
LEGITIMATE SCHOOLS TRAIN
STUDENTS PROPERLY AND THE
PROCESS WE STRIVE TO NOT UNDULY
BURDENED THESE LEGITIMATE
SCHOOLS.
TO THAT END CA MTC HAVE SOUGHT
OUT SCHOOL EMPLOYED SINCE BEFORE
OUR FIRST POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES WERE DRAFTED.
THEN A FEW MONTHS INTO THE
SCHOOL APPROVAL PROCESS VMT SEES
BOARD ESTABLISHED A SCHOOL
ADVISORY COMMITTEE POPULATED BY
THE BOARD HAS IMPLEMENTED
NUMEROUS COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING
AMENDMENTS TO OUR POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES THAT HAVE CLARIFIED
AND REFINED PROCESSES WHILE
KEEPING THEM LARGELY INTACT.
THE CURRENT PROCEDURES CAN
ALWAYS BE FOUND ON CMT SEES
WEBSITE AND PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
ARE ALWAYS POSTED AT LEAST TEN
DAYS PRIOR TO BOARD MEETINGS.
THE APPLICATIONS FOR SCHOOL
APPROVAL AND RE APPROVAL HAVE
REMAINEDUNCHANGED SINCE
INITIALLY RELEASED.
FURTHERMORE THE MTC ADOPTED THE
COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTION TO
PUBLISH A QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER.
AND SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE OUR
LATEST ADDITION.
APPROXIMATELY EVERY TWO TO THREE
WEEKS AFTER A BOARD MEETING.
THESE ISSUES AB THREE ISSUES
HAVE BEEN SENT TO SCHOOL SO FAR
WITH VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
BETWEEN THOSE LETTERS WE HAVE
INCREASED OUR EMAIL
COMMUNICATIONS WITH SCHOOLS
HIGHLIGHTING IMPORTANT REMINDERS
AND UPDATES.
GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH SCHOOLS
ALSO MEANS CLEAR AN INFORMATIVE
INTERACTION WITH THEIR STUDENTS.
FOR NEW STUDENTS WE CREATED A
BROCHURE DETAILING THE
CONSEQUENCES OF ENROLLING IN A
MASSAGE PROGRAM THAT IS NOT CA
MTC APPROVED.
WHILE STUDENTS ARE CERTAINLY
FREE TO NOT CHOOSE A CA MTC
SCHOOL OR CERTIFICATION BUT
SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE AN
EDUCATED DECISION.
WE DISTRIBUTED THIS BROCHURE TO
ALL CALIFORNIA MASSAGE SCHOOLS
FREE OF CHARGE.
ISSUES ARISE EVEN WITH STUDENTS
WHO APPLY WITH EDUCATION FROM
APPROVED SCHOOLS PERHAPS THEY
DIDN'T COMPLETE THE ENTIRE
PROGRAM ARE ONLY HAVE PARTIAL
EDUCATION FROM A CLOSE SCHOOL.
SCHOOLS OFTEN FAIL TO SEE THE
NUANCES THAT MAKE INDIVIDUAL
SITUATIONS DIFFERENT RESULTING
IN THE APPEARANCE OF POLICY
CHANGES ARE CONFLICTS.
RECENTLY CA MTC IMPLEMENTED MORE
DETAILED RESPONSES TO APPLICANTS
AND THEIR SCHOOLS. TO HELP THEM
BETTER UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY
THEY FAILED TO MEET THE MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW.
THE MDC ALSO SUPPORT SCHOOLS BY
WORKING WITH BPP TO SHARE
INFORMATION AND MINIMIZE
INCONSISTENT POLICIES WHILE WE
ALREADY ENJOY A GOOD WORKING
RELATIONSHIP WITH BPP WE HAVE A
MEETING TOMORROW MORNING BUT THE
NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. TO
FURTHER ADVANCE IN M. O. U.
BETWEEN OUR ORGANIZATIONS AND
DISCUSS COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS
FOR SCHOOL CONCERNS.
I SEE A MTC SCHOOL APPROVAL
MOVES FORWARD THE FUTURE LOOKS
BRIGHT.
WHAT TWO YEARS OF SCHOOL
APPROVALS BEHIND US WE FIRST SEE
SMOKE PROCESSING EVERY APPROVAL
APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE SCHOOLS
PROVIDING TIMELY AND COMPLETE
APPLICATIONS AND REQUIRING NO
DISCIPLINARY ACTION?
WE ALSO SEE FEWER ILLICIT
MASSAGE SCHOOLS APPLYING FOR
APPROVAL.
FEWER SCHOOLS FAILING TO MEET
MINIMUM EDUCATION STANDARDS.
AND NOTABLY AS THE CHART SHOWS.
RISING ENROLLMENT AMONG CA MTC
APPROVES SCHOOLS.
THE FIRST GROUP OF TWENTY NINE
APPROVED SCHOOLS APPLYING FOR RE
APPROVAL SELF REPORT THAT FROM
TWENTY FIFTEEN. THE YEAR BEFORE
CA MTC SCHOOL APPROVAL BEGAN TO
TWENTY SEVENTEEN THE NUMBER OF
GRADUATES OVERALL INCREASED BY
OVER THIRTY PERCENT.
COMPLETING FIVE HUNDRED HOURS OF
EDUCATION FROM AN APPROVED
SCHOOL IS REQUIRED BY LAW IN
ORDER TO OBTAIN CERTIFICATION.
AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC PROTECTION
WHEN PATIENTS ARRIVE FOR THEIR
MASSAGE THERAPY TREATMENT NCAC
MTC CERTIFICATE ON THE WALL.
THEY SHOULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT
THERAPIST HAS RECEIVED THE
PROPER TRAINING TO WORK ON THEM
SAFELY AND ETHICALLY. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME THANK YOU VERY
MUCH I APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY.
SIEGEL AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN HILL MEMBERS SENATOR
AND STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
FOR THAT ME ADDRESSED THE
HEARING PROCESS FOR STUDENTS.
AFTER SCHOOL SUPPLIED FOR SEEM
TO SEE SCHOOL APPROVAL. AND
THEIR APPLICATION IS STILL
PENDING ALL INDIVIDUAL
APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATION
WITH EDUCATION FROM THAT SCHOOL
ARE HELD. UNTIL FINAL DECISION
IS RENDERED ON THE SCHOOL'S
APPLICATION FOR SCHOOL APPROVAL.
IF THE SCHOOLS APPLICATION IS
GRANTED THE HOLDERS RELEASE AND
ALL STUDENTS ARE PROCESS IN
ACCORDANCE WITH NORMAL
PROCEDURES.
IF A SCHOOL IS THE NIGHT SEEM TO
SEE SCHOOL APPROVAL.
STUDENTS WHOSE APPLICATIONS HAVE
ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED OR WHOSE
APPLICATIONS ARE RECEIVED WITHIN
NINETY DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE
DATE OF DENIAL. MAY STILL USE
THAT EDUCATION FOR CERTIFICATION
PURPOSES.
THEY ARE JUST REQUIRED TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROOF OF
ADEQUATE EDUCATION.
THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH AN
EDUCATION HEARING.
STUDENTS IN THIS CATEGORY ARE
SENT LETTERS PROPOSING TO DENY
THEIR APPLICATIONS. BASED ON
EDUCATION IF THEY FAIL TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROOF OF
ADEQUATE EDUCATION.
THE LETTERS PROVIDE A DATE
CERTAIN AYE WHICH THE HEARING
WILL OCCUR SHOULD THEY REQUEST
ONE.
STUDENTS ARE NOTIFIED OF THE
DEADLINES FOR REQUESTING A
HEARING SUBMITTING DOCUMENTS AND
PAIN THE HEARING FEE.
THEY'RE FREE TO REQUEST EITHER
AN ORAL TELEPHONIC HEARING. FOR
CONSIDERATION OF A WRITTEN
STATEMENT.
IF THEY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE
DEADLINES REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH
IN THE LATTER. THAN THE DENIAL
BECOMES AUTOMATICALLY FINAL AND
EFFECTIVE.
DENIED APPLICANTS MUST WAIT TWO
YEARS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF
DENIAL BEFORE REAPPLYING.
SEEM TO SEE US STRIVE TO CREATE
A ROBUST SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS
THE PUBLIC. BY NOT ALLOWING
THOSE WITH AN ADEQUATE EDUCATION
TO BE CERTIFIED. Y. STILL
STRIKING A BALANCE AND BE
INSENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF
STUDENTS.
WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE
UNKNOWINGLY ATTENDED A SCHOOL?
THAT FAILS TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT
EDUCATION.
BY PROVIDING EDUCATION HEARINGS
EACH STUDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE WELL
QUALIFIED.
TO PROVIDE MASSAGE FOR
COMPENSATION REGARDLESS OF THE
SCHOOL THEY ATTENDED.
SANTEE CA UNDERSTANDS THAT
UNSCRUPULOUS SCHOOLS ARE
SOMETIMES POSITION TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF VULNERABLE STUDENT
POPULATIONS.
PENDING SCHOOLS THAT NEVER
COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATIONS HAVE
FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO DO SO.
THEY CAN CONTINUE TO ENROLL
STUDENTS WITH THE PROMISE THAT
THEY WILL ONE DAY BE SEEM TO SEE
APPROVED.
OR EVEN IF THEY WILL SIMPLY
AREN'T STUDENTS CAN STILL EASY
EDUCATION FOR CERTIFICATION
PURPOSES FROM THAT SCHOOL.
CMT SEE ONLY HAS JURISDICTION
OVER SEEM TO SEE APPROVED
SCHOOLS. AND SCHOOLS THAT HAVE
APPLIED FOR SEEM TO SEE SCHOOL
APPROVAL.
IT IS NONETHELESS TRYING TO
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
IT IS MADE EFFORTS TO INFORM
CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS
ABOUT THE DISADVANTAGES OF
ATTENDING A SCHOOL THAT DOES NOT
HAVE A SEEM TO SEE APPROVED
MASSAGE PROGRAM.
BY SENDING BROCHURES TO ALMOST
OUR SCHOOLS IN CALIFORNIA
REGARDLESS OF APPROVAL STATUS
SO THAT THEY CAN BE SHARED WITH
THEIR STUDENTS.
IN THE LAST YEAR THEME TO SEE
ALSO SEND INFORMATION TO SEEM TO
SEE PENDING SCHOOLS. THAT
REQUESTED THAT SCHOOLS
VOLUNTARILY SHARE WITH THEIR
STUDENTS.
SO THE STUDENTS COULD BE
INFORMED OF WHAT IT MEANS TO
ATTEND A PENDING SCHOOL.
ADDITIONALLY SEEM TO SEE
RECENTLY CHANGES PROCEDURES TO
TO SHARE THE SAME NOTICE WITH
ALL CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE
STUDENTS.
THIS NOTICE INFORM STUDENTS THAT
PENDING SCHOOLS MAY REMAIN IN
THAT STATUS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME. SOMETIMES LONGER THAN ONE
YEAR.
IT ALSO INFORM STUDENTS THAT IF
THE SCHOOLS TONIGHT APPROVAL THE
STUDENTS MAY USE THEIR EDUCATION
FOR CERTIFICATION. THAT BUT THEY
MUST ALSO TAKE AND PASS AN
EDUCATION HEARING IN ORDER TO BE
CERTIFIED.
BY TAKING THE STEPS SEEM TO
SEIZE MEETING ITS MISSION TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
BY ENSURING CERTIFIED MASSAGE
PROFESSIONALS ARE WELL
QUALIFIED.
WHILE STILL ALLOWING STUDENTS
THAT ATTEND THE DENIED SCHOOLS
TEARS ARE EDUCATION FOR
CERTIFICATION PURPOSES.
BANKING THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
ADDRESS THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE
VACUOUS EAGLE AND IT IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I WILL NOW
OPEN IT TO QUESTIONS.
SENATOR AND WHEN I THINK YOU HAD
A QUESTION.
OR TO I IDEA I HAVE. SEVERAL
QUESTIONS MISTER CHAIRMAN.
I'M I'M SORRY YOU SAID THERE WAS
EIGHTY ONE SCHOOLS THERE HAS
BEEN A PROVEN NINETY FOUR
CAMPUSES THAT CORRECT.
I'M EIGHTY ONE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE
BEEN ON APPROVED OR DENIED AND
NINETY FOUR CAMPUSES THAT HAVE
BEEN APPROVED.
YOU I'M SURE TO ME IN THE NINETY
FOUR CAMPUSES HOW MANY OF THEM
HAVE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION
MOST OF THE ARM ALL BUT.
FOR ABOUT EIGHTY ONE SEVENTY
SEVEN WERE UNDER OUR PREVIOUS
BEFORE WE BEGAN THE NEW SCHOOL
APPROVAL PROCESS. AND WERE ON
APPROVED AT THAT TIME SOLD THAT
WAS.
WHY THE APPROVAL PROCESS WAS
CREATED WAS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN
SO MANY? SO ITEM I DON'T DATE
BACK TO ASK FOR HER YEAH IF IF
YOU CAN'T I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO
KNOW OF THE NINETY FOUR CAMPUSES
STATEWIDE. HOW MANY OF THEM?
TAUGHT IN SPANISH.
VIETNAMESE CHINESE KOREAN.
WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR STUDENTS
TO.
HAS A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE A BIT
SPEAK OUTSIDE ENGLISH
RIGHT AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT I
WOULD LIKE. A THE.
A A COST ANALYSIS OF EACH OF
THEM WHAT IS THE COST OF EACH OF
THOSE SCHOOLS FOR STUDENTS TO
ATTEND.
SO SAY YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL IS.
IT'S Y. Z. SCHOOL
IT COSTS THIRTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS.
ABC SCHOOL COSTS TWO THOUSAND
DOLLARS ON SOME I JUST KIND OF
CURIOUS TO KNOW AND. OBVIOUSLY
MY MY INTERESTS IS WITHIN YOU
KNOW WHY WHAT'S HE SAY WHY BUT I
WOULD PRACTICALLY BE LOOKING AT
THE ORANGE COUNTY. AND LA AREA
ASHES SUNNY CALIFORNIA AREA I BE
INTERESTING TO KNOW BECAUSE.
I AM VERY CONFIDENT THERE'S MORE
THAN JUST ONE LANGUAGE SPOKEN.
AT THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT THE
SICK YOU KNOW OF JOBS FIRST I'M
SITES.
ON BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I HAD S.
B. THREE FIFTEEN PASSED LAST
YEAR. WAS UP AND I GAVE CMT SEE.
A VERY LENGTHY TIME TO IMPLEMENT
IT.
ON HOPEFULLY THAT OF ARE YOU
TAKING ANY STEPS.
IN LOOKING HOW YOU TO BE
IMPLEMENTING THAT ARE YOU HAVING
BOTHER TO LOOK AT IT YET.
WITH THEM LANGUAGES AND THE
SCHOOLS IT STARTS WITH BPP
FIRST SCHOOLS HAVE TO BE
APPROVED BY BPP TO TEACH
AND WHATEVER LANGUAGES THAT THEY
CHOOSE TO. SO WE ALWAYS BASS OUT
FOR SCHOOL TO BE APPROVED BY
HOUSE FIRST THEY HAVE TO BE
APPROVED BY BPP AND THEY
HAVE TO BE APPROVED FOR THAT
PROGRAM IN THAT LANGUAGE.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEGAN I CAN
TELL YOU VERY FEW HAVE GONE
THROUGH THAT PROCESS WOULD BE PP
TO BE APPROVED.
AND ANOTHER LANGUAGE SO IT IT
BEGINS THERE AND THEN WE'RE
HAPPY TO APPROVE ANYTHING THAT'S
ALREADY HAVE PLAYED MIGHT MY
QUESTION I'M I'M I'M SORRY I'M
NOT ASKING YOU.
.
S. B. THREE FIFTEEN JUST.
AS A REMINDER WAS A BILL TO MAKE
IT SHOULD THE CM EIGHT.
SEE A MTC.
YOUR MATERIALS WILL BE PROVIDED
DIFFERENT LANGUAGES IT WAS IN
THE SCHOOL THEM TALKING ABOUT.
THE BILL ITSELF SAYS THAT YOU
NEED TO COME BACK TO US AND LET
US KNOW WHAT IS THE MAJORITY
LANGUAGES THAT ARE. WELL SPOKEN
THE USE.
IN THE MASSAGE THERAPY
PROFESSION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO YOU
KNOW GIVE YOU EXAMPLE SAY IN.
THE NAIL SALON INDUSTRY. BE
KNOWN.
EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE SCHOOL
EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE TECHNICIAN
AND THE OWNERS OF NAIL SALONS
ARE VIETNAMESE.
ON BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD AND YOU
KNOW WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S A
LOT OF SPANISH SPEAKERS AS WELL.
SO WE IMPLEMENTED A BILL TWO
YEARS AGO.
THAT INCLUDED ON YOU KNOW NINE
OF THE STATE. ON.
THE STATE ON.
YOU KNOW.
THE BARBER COSMETOLOGY WOULD
HAVE TO IT.
PROVIDE LANGUAGES.
OF THE FOUR LANGUAGES OF THE
INDIVIDUALS IF THEY'RE THE TOP
FOUR FIVE.
ON SO I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW IS
HAVE CMT SEAT TAKEN ANY STEPS
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU MENTIONED
YOU'VE GOT SOME NEWSLETTERS AND
EXCITER THAT'S GOING OUT TO THE
SCHOOLS.
OF MY FEAR IS THOUGH IS.
I KNOW THAT EVEN THOSE CAN TAKE
US AWHILE TO GET TO BECAUSE I
GAVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE AMPLE
TIME TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
A BUT IF YOU'RE GIVING OUT THESE
NEWSLETTERS.
AND SOME OF THE SCHOOLS MIGHT BE
TAUGHT IN SPANISH.
VIETNAMESE CHINESE RUSSIAN.
ON ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS ABLE TO
READ AND UNDERSTAND.
EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE.
YOU HAVE ON YOUR NEWSLETTER.
RIGHT HAVE YOU.
THOUGHT IF ANYTHING OF S. B.
THREE FIFTEEN YET OR YOU GUYS
YOU HAVE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT
YET.
ALAN THE BOARD FIRST THAT'S
ACTUALLY MUCH BETTER ANSWERED.
BY OUR CEO I'D I OVERSEE THE
SCHOOL APPROVAL SPECIFICALLY SO
I DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL AND
OWNERS AND ADMINISTRATORS
SPECIFICALLY ON THAT PAPERWORK
AND. ALMOST ALL OF THIS IS OUR
SECOND HAS EVERYBODY WHO DEALS
WITH YOU DIRECTLY.
THERE.
VERY FOR.
FLUENT IN ENGLISH.
NOBODY HAS ANY PROBLEMS
COMMITTEE WITH YOU AND EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING YOU SAY.
WELL I'M I HAVE A TEXAS ACCENT
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT EVERYBODY
ALWAYS UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING I
SAY BUT.
BUT NO I'VE NOT AYE NO ONE HAS
EVER EXPRESSED THAT THERE'S BEEN
ANY PROBLEMS AND WE MAKE SITE
VISITS TO SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME
AND I COMMUNICATE BY EMAIL AND
PHONE SO WITH THE SCHOOL. OWNERS
THEMSELVES IT. IT HAS NOT EVER
BEEN EXPRESSED AS A PROBLEM.
SO OTHER NINETY FOUR CAMPUSES
DON'T KNOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY
ARE EXPAND AND HOW MANY ARE
SPANISH AND THAT TINA OWNER HOW
MANY VIETNAMESE A CHINESE.
I DO NOT WE DO NOT TRACK THAT.
YOU DON'T TRACK THAT ALL.
NO MA'AM SO ARE THERE ANY SCHOOL
THAT TEACHES BILINGUAL OR JUST
ALL IN ENGLISH.
WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT TEACH.
BILINGUAL I WAS SAYING IN
REFERENCE TO THE OWNERS AND OUR.
COMMUNICATION WITH THEM WE DON'T
TRACK.
TRACKPOINT THERE PRIMARILY WHAT
THEIR LANGUAGES.
BUT ON THEY ON ON WHETHER
SCHOOLS WE DO HAVE.
COUPLE THAT ACTUALLY MEET THE
BPP REQUIREMENTS AND OF
COME TO US WITH AN APPROVED
PROGRAM THAT'S IN ANOTHER
LANGUAGE.
BUT MOST OF THEM WILL SAY MORE.
I'VE CHINESE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPROVE
SPANISH SCHOOLS.
I'VE I'VE NOT SEEN ANY NO
ENEMIES.
I'VE NOT SEEN ANY NOW.
A OKAY.
.
THEN I MEAN MY NEXT QUESTION OF
IS.
OF THE FIFTY ONE PENDING SCHOOL
YOU MENTIONED IT COULD TAKE UP
TO ONE YEAR WHY.
AGAIN IS LARGELY DEPENDENT ON
THE SCHOOLS THAT THE ROBUST
APPLICATION. THEY HAVE A LOT OF
INFORMATION TO SUPPLY MANY
SCHOOLS BUT THERE PROGRAMS ON
HOLD AND THEY NEVER GET THEIR
PROGRAM OFF THE GROUND THE WAY
THAT. PERHAPS THEY WERE THINKING
WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THE
APPLICATION.
THERE'S ALSO SCHOOLS OUT THERE
THAT
HAVE ISSUES AND I THINK THEY
KNOW THEY HAVE ISSUES SO THEY.
DRAG OUT.
.
MISSY GOAL IS THEY THEY SORTED
IT HELPS THEM TO DRAG OUT THE
PROCESS BECAUSE THEY CAN KEEP
ADVERTISING THEMSELVES AS A
PENDING SCHOOL AND THEY NEVER
REACHED THE POINT WHERE WE WOULD
MAKE A DECISION THAT THEY KNOW
WOULD LIKELY BE A DENIAL BECAUSE
THEY NEVER COMPLETE THEIR
APPLICATION.
I'M GONNA.
TRY AGAIN YOU HAVE FIFTY ONE
PENDING SCHOOLS YES AND.
I APPRECIATE THE OPINION BUT I'M
I JUST WANT THE FACTS YOUR. UP
AND YOU'VE GOT FIFTY ONE PENDING
SCHOOLS.
OF THESE FIFTY ONE SCHOOLS.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS WILL LOOKING
AT THE SCHOOL I DON'T KNOW WHO
THERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
NONE OF APPROACH ME? I'M JUST
CURIOUS. IF FIFTY ONE SCHOOLS
ARE OUT THERE YOU ONLY HAVE
NINETY FOUR PROOF RIGHT NOW
RIGHT THIS FIFTY ONE PENDING.
YOU ONLY HAVE TO SCHOOLS THAT'S
TEACHING. OTHER THAN ENGLISH AS
A TWO CHINESE SCHOOLS.
YOU GOT VIETNAMESE AYE KNOWS
HUGE IN MY DISTRICT AND IN SAN
JOSE AEA.
MY DISTRICT IS ALSO HOME TO THE
LARGEST LATINO POPULATION AS
WELL.
SO I'M JUST I'M I'M.
I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED THAT YOU
ARE NOW MAKING. THE
PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT AN
EMPLOYEE BECAUSE NOW WE DON'T
KNOW THAT THE I MEAN MOST OF
PEOPLE. THAT'S
ARE OUTSIDE YOUR OTHER THAN
SPEAKING FLUENT ENGLISH.
ON.
I'M JUST I MEAN I I ONE RAP
EVERYBODY BUT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO
GOING TO MASSAGE THERAPY.
BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE ON.
ENGLISH AS A BARRIER TO THEM.
AND SOME OF THEM AND I JUST.
PAUL EASIER FOR ME TO USE THEIR.
VIETNAMESE COMMUNITY AS A LOT OF
THOSE WHO APPLY WANT BE IN THIS
PROFESSION TEND TO PAUL AND NOT
HAVE A A A A IN EDUCATION.
BECAUSE SCHOOLS EDUCATIONS NOT
FREE INVENT NON A MIKE MY MOM.
FINISHED THIRD GRADE YOU KNOW
IT'S VERY LUCKY THAT MY DAD EVEN
FINISHED EIGHTH GRADE ANYTHING
ABOVE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE
EXTREMELY WEALTHY IN YOUR THE
THE LEAST CLASS IN VIETNAM.
THE MOST PEOPLE IN VIETNAM DON'T
HAVE A A A LIE I MEAN EDUCATION
AT ALL.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA BE IF YOU
DON'T HAVE ANY SCHOOLS THAT ARE
BEING TIED IN VIETNAMESE.
HOW ARE THE STUDENTS GOT A HAVE
THESE CAREER THESE JOBS?
OR EVEN SPANISH.
OR I KNOW THAT.
RUSSIAN IS ALSO PRETTY BIG AS A
LANGUAGE FOR AND MASSAGE THERAPY
AS WELL.
HOW SOON ARE WE LOOKING AT THESE
SCHOOLS?
BESIDE I MEAN I I GET THE WILL
BUY US WHAT IS WILL BOSS MEAN
AND THE APPLICATION WHAT WHAT
WHAT DOES IT TELL. BECAUSE I'M
I'M FAMILIAR WITH YOU KNOW THE
RFP PROCESS BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR
WITH ALL THAT GIVEN BEEN A.
COUNSEL A COUNTY SUPERVISOR AND
NOW SENATORS AYE I KNOW THE
PACKAGES AND.
WHAT WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT I
MEAN HOW HOW MANY PAGES WHAT
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ARE
THERE I DO YOU GIVE THEM A LIST
OF QUESTIONS?
OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD
HAVE TO.
SUBMIT.
WHAT WHAT ARE WE TOM A WE SEE
ROBUST?
OR IT AND IN ADDITION TO THEIR
IS AN APPLICATION THAT THEY FELL
OUT AND THEN THERE'S PAGES FOR
INDIVIDUAL STAFF ADMINISTRATORS
INSTRUCTORS THERE'S BACKGROUND
CHECKS THAT GO WITH ALL OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS AS WELL. AND THEN WE
GET INTO COURSE CATALOGS
ENROLLMENT AGREEMENTS.
THEY'RE STILL A BY DAILY LESSON
PLANS.
PROGRAM OUR REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE
SURE THEY MEET THE COR
REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN THE
LAW.
I WOULD LOOK AT THEIR
TRANSCRIPTS WE LOOK AT HOW THEY
RECORD ATTENDANCE.
SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE TO BE
SUPPLIED IS PART OF THE TRUCK AT
LIKE ON AVERAGE HOW LONG DOES IT
USUALLY TAKE. A SCHOOL.
THE PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER FOR
YOU WHAT IS THAT USUALLY.
TWENTY ONE HOURS FORTY HOURS A
MONTH TWO MONTHS HOW LONG DOES
IT USUALLY TAKE THEM TO PROVIDE
THESE.
I MEAN.
THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL THE
SAME IN EVERY SCHOOL RIGHT SO
WHAT WHAT IS THAT AVERAGE AND
THEN. FUND THAT TIME THE SAVE
IT'S A MONTH.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU?
TO REVIEW THAT.
AND TO GET BACK TO THEM.
RYAN WELL WE'VE GOTTEN I DON'T
KNOW ON THEIR END HOW LONG IT'S
TAKING THEM I KNOW WHEN WE HAVE
SOME SEAT ATLANTIS IN THE I KNOW
YOU'VE YOU WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS
A LOT HORRIBLY YOU'RE FAMILIAR
WITH THAT I MEAN. YOUR
PROFESSION SO I I WAS SOON YOU
WOULD.
KIND OF HAVE THE IDEA OF HOW
LONG IT WOULD TAKE IT MEAN.
BECAUSE I MEAN I I KNOW HOW LONG
WOULD TAKE.
FOR US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IN
THE STATE.
FOR I'VE SEEN IT MAY TAKE AS
LITTLE AS A WEEK FOR SCHOOLS
GENERALLY ACCREDITED SCHOOLS
THAT ALREADY HAVE MANY OF THESE
DOCUMENTS KIND OF LINED UP.
SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT USED TO
THAT SORT OF PROCESS MIGHT HAVE
TO COLLECT THINGS AND.
AND RIGHT STEP UP THAT THEY
DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THAT NEEDED
FOR IT SO I THINK IT TAKE
ANYWHERE FROM A WEEK AND THEN
AGAIN WE'VE GOT PENDING SCHOOLS
WHO. HAVE JUST EVERY FEW WEEKS A
FEW MONTHS AND THEN ONE MORE
DOCUMENT OF THE APPLICATION I'M
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE GUYS
RIGHT I HATE THOSE GUYS YOU KNOW
AND EVERY TREE THERE'S ALWAYS
COUPLE BAD APPLES I GET IT. OKAY
I AM I'M I'M NOT ASKING BUT I'M
TIME OF. IN GENERAL.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ON AVERAGE.
IS YOU KNOW YOU GUYS YOU KNOW
THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ROBUST.
WHO ARE VERY NOW I MEAN THE
POLLY MORE TO SCHOOLS THAT ARE?
OWNED BY PROFESSIONAL COLLEGES
AND EXAGGERATE WHO COULD I DO IN
A WEEK LIKE YOU SAID RIGHT THEN
I WOULD ASSUME OTHER SCHOOLS
WITH TAKE WHAT.
FOR THREE WEEKS USUALLY WEEKS
OKAY SERVICE TO THREE WEEKS AND
THEN HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU
TO THE VIEW OR YOUR STAFF.
WE'VE. REVIEWED WHETHER SEVERAL
STEPS TO A WE REVIEW INITIALLY
THEN WE REVIEW FOR DEEPER
CONTENT OF. ONCE WE KNOW THAT
THE APPLICATION'S COMPLETE
WITHIN REVIEW IT FOR CURRICULUM
CONTENT. AND THEN WE DO A SITE
VISIT.
SOMETIMES THE SITE VISIT TURNS
OUT. MORE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS
ONLY GATHERED SOME OF THEM.
FROM WHEN YOU GET THE
APPLICATION.
TO BEFORE YOU GET TO THE SITE
VISIT HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE
YOU.
ON AVERAGE THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE THE
MASSIVE INFORMATION OR IS IT HOW
MUCH THE HOW IS A STAFF TIME YOU
NEED MORE STAFF.
I MEAN WHAT WAYS IT.
YES USUALLY OBSERVE IT TAKES
THEM TO A WEEK TO.
TWO THREE WEEKS TO SUBMIT.
HOW ARE YOU I'M JUST FIVE EURO
WAS DOUBLING YOUR TIME COMPARED
TO THEIRS I'M I'M JUST?
REASON WHY I'M ASKING THIS.
IS THAT.
WE AS GOVERNMENT.
SHOULD MOVE THE PROCESS.
WE SHOULD BE HELPFUL.
BECAUSE THE SOONER THE SCHOOLS
OPEN.
SO RELEASED STUDENTS.
HE CONTINUED TO GET THEIR
EDUCATION AND GET A JOB.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE ALL ABOUT.
AND SO MIKE REASON WHY I'M GOING
THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL WITH YOU
IS.
IT'S VERY CONCERNING HERE THAT
IT CAN TAKE UP TO A YEAR.
I'LL TELL YOU IT TAKES MORE THAN
A YEAR.
I'VE HEARD IT.
OKAY.
UNDER.
SO.
YOU KNOW WE WENT FROM. TWO THREE
WEEKS TO ANOTHER THREE FOUR
WEEKS AWAY ABOUT.
THREE MONTHS OUT.
NOW.
YOU DO SITE VISITS YOU PAULA GO
BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM.
MAYBE THIS WHOLE PROCESS BY SIX
MONTHS
SO I'M CURIOUS NOW WHAT'S THE
OTHER SIX MONTHS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT THAT
THAT THE ONE THAT YOU WILL PROVE
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BAD
APPLES OKAY CRIME I MEAN I KNOW
THAT MOST OF YOU FOCUS YOUR
COMMENTS IS ALL ABOUT. THE
ILLEGAL STUFF IN THE YOU KNOW
THOSE WHO ARE TERRIBLE AND THOSE
ARE I MEAN I I I GAVE YOU WANT
TO TARGET THOSE THAT'S FINE AND
YOU SHOULD. YOU SHOULD BECAUSE
WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU DO.
BUT WHAT HAPPEN TO THE A SIX
MONTHS WHY WHAT WHY THE EXTRA
SIX MONTHS.
WITHOUT A AGAIN THAT ACCOUNTS
FOR THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE BAD
APPLES FOR A SCHOOL THAT IS THAT
SENDS US A COMPLETE APPLICATION
AND WORKS WITH US AND WE WORK
WITH THEM.
I MOVE WE AGAIN WE MATCH THEIR
ENERGY AND RESPONSIVENESS IF
THEY'RE RESPONSIVE WE'RE
RESPONSIVE. THOSE WILL THOSE
WILL BE APPROVED IT WILL NOT
TAKE A YEAR FOR THOSE SCHOOLS TO
BE APPROVED.
AND ON AVERAGE HOW MANY SCHOOLS
THAT ARE WE TALKING THOUGH IS
THAT TEN PERCENT OF THE SCHOOLS
A SUPPLY. IS THAT TWENTY FIVE
PERCENT OF THE SCHOOL THEY
APPLY.
WELL I THINK BECAUSE IT ANYMORE
WE DON'T GET THAT MANY NEW
APPLICATIONS MAY BE ONE A
QUARTER.
ARE MOST OF THEM ARE ALREADY
EXISTING IN BUSINESS WHEN WE
STARTED TWO YEARS AGO AND SO ALL
OF THOSE WERE PROCESSED RIGHT.
AT THE BEGINNING AND WE HAVE OUR
AN OFFICIAL START DATE.
MAYBE LET'S JUST GO BACK TO THE
FIFTY ONE PENDING SCHOOLS TO
ENSURE ON OTHER FIFTY ONE
PENDING SCHOOLS HOW HOW LONG HAS
IT.
WHAT'S THE AVERAGE OF THOSE
SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW BEEN WAITING.
CIMBALOM HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
OVER TWO YEARS BUT.
WE'RE WAITING ACTUALLY ON THEM
TO GENERALLY COMPLETE THE
APPLICATION THERE'S NOT SCHOOLS
THAT ARE JUST WAITING ON PASSED
WITH NOTHING TO DO.
SO THE FIFTY ONE SCHOOLS WE WENT
FROM A YEAR TO NOW TO A AVERAGE
IS MOST OF THEM WERE TWO YEARS.
THERE ARE SOME WHO SUBMITTED
INITIAL APPLICATIONFROM THIS
PROCESS STARTED TWO YEARS AGO
AND THEY'RE STILL OPEN WE HAVE
THE RIGHT TO PURGE THOSE AN
ACTIVE SCHOOLS WHICH KEPT THEM
OPEN DURING THIS TRANSITION
PERIOD. JUST AS A COURTESY
BECAUSE THIS IS NEW FOR. IS A
BIG SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF NON
RESPONSIVENESS FROM THEIR SIDE.
OR IS IT.
I'M I'M HIS I MEAN THAT'S THAT.
I I HEAR THIS A LOT.
YOU KNOW AND NOT JUST IN MY
DISTRICT BUT THEY'RE SOME
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS A SENATORS
DISTRICTS. THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE
NOT BEEN APPROVED AND WE'RE JUST
ALL CURIOUS OF.
THE DELAY.
NOR IS IT IN YOUR WILL GIVE YOU
A FUNCTION WORSE THAN THE
GOVERNMENT NOW TELL YOU THAT.
WELL I'M.
I DO NOT I DON'T THINK WE ARE
BUT.
.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE ABSOLUTELY
THEY PUT THEIR PROGRAMS ON HOLD
THEY THOUGHT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN
THE SCHOOL APPROVAL PROCESS
STARTED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
LAUNCH A MISSILE. MASSAGE
PROGRAMMER CONTINUANT AND
THEY'VE DECIDED AGAINST IT SO.
THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE
ISLAND AND SO WE'VE GOT THOSE WE
HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT SHOW UP
IS PENDING BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY
INVOLVED IN THEIR CORRECTIVE
ACTIONS THAT THEY'RE DOING THEY
DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS
WE'VE GIVEN THEM CORRECTIVE
ACTIONS THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.
THERE'S OTHER SCHOOLS THAT HAVE
BEEN PROPOSED FOR DENIAL
PUBLICLY ON THE WEBSITE THEY'RE
LISTED IS PENDING STILL BUT
BEHIND THE SCENES THEY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING WE
HAVE ONE SCHOOL. THAT
I CAN THINK OF THAT ON THE TOP
OF MY HEAD WHO HAS ASKED FOR.
SEVERAL CONTINUANCES OF HEARINGS
FOR THEIR PROPOSED DENIAL TO THE
POINT THAT THEY'VE PUSHED.
WELL NOW IN THEM GOING INTO
THEIR SECOND YEAR OF PENDING
BECAUSE THEY'VE ASKED FOR
CONTINUANCES FOR THEIR PROPOSED
DENIAL HEARING. AND SENATE IN
WHEN I WHERE. WE HAVE OUR.
LEGISLATIVE SESSION
A LEAD OUR HIM BACK IT TO TWELVE
WE WILL COME BACK BUT YOU HAVE
ONE FINAL QUESTION I'VE GOT IF
SEVERAL MORE.
BUT WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT IS
THE SESSION BEGUN.
WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE A RECESS
UNTIL OUR SESSION IS COMPLETED.
THANK YOU AND END UP.
THE.
BUT FORGET WHAT WILL RECEIVE
ACCURATE.
AS SOON AS OUR LEGISLATIVE
SESSION IS COMPLETE PROBABLY
WITHIN AN HOUR.
IS MY GUESS THAT WE WILL TAKE
UP THE A HEARING FROM THAT POINT
ON.
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
TWENTY
SO AGAIN.
BUT.
.
WILLOW WAIT A MINUTE OR SO FOR
SENATOR KNOW WHEN TO COME BACK
ISSUE BECAUSE THEY KNOW SHE HAD
ANOTHER QUESTION BUT IN MY
CONVERSATION WITH SENATOR AND
WHEN.
IN THE.
DURING THE RECESS.
THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR SCHOOL
THAT SHE HAS SOME CONCERNS WITH
IN TERMS OF TIMING.
TERMS OF THE THE.
.
THE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE
DEVELOPED OVER THAT PERIOD OF
TIME AND WOOD I AGREED TO DO
WITH HER IS TO INVITE.
YOU TO MY OFFICE AND WE CAN
PERHAPS PUT TOGETHER A TIMELINE
ON THAT PARTICULAR.
SCHOOL TO SEE WHAT THE
COMMUNICATIONS HAVE BEEN IN USE
THAT AS MAY BE A TEST CASE FOR
EXAMPLE THAT WE CAN LOOK FROM TO
SEE HOW.
THE PROCESS HAS BEEN WORKING SO
WE WOULD TO WILL WE CAN DISCUSS
THAT THAT. A AFTER THE.
OF THE HEARING TODAY BUT IT AND
THEN GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PUT TOGETHER A TIMELINE OF THAT
PARTICULAR. A INTERACTION.
AND INVOLVEMENT AND THEN WE CAN
GO FROM THERE THAT UPSET.
IF YOU THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE
CENTER AND WHEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER
QUESTION. YES THANK YOU THINK IS
MISTER CHAIRMAN I JUST WANT TO
KIND OF RECAP AND IS.
AND WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR IS
HAVE THE.
NINETY FOUR CAMPUSES THAT YOU
HAVE.
ALREADY APPROVED A CURIOUS TO
KNOW THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES IF
THERE'S ANY OTHER LANGUAGES
OFFER.
UP IN THE COSTS OF THE SCHOOLS
TO ATTEND THE PROGRAM AS WELL.
IN ANOTHER FIFTY ONE PENDING
SCHOOLS IS OF AND YOU MENTIONED
SOME OF THE MOST OF THESE ARE
NOW TWO YEARS OLD I'M MORE OF.
WANTING TO KNOW WHY THERE'S A
MINUTE VISIT THE SCHOOL OR IS
IT.
CMT CA WHAT THE LACK OF
INFORMATION.
UP IS THERE.
A.
AND THEN I'M THE IDIOT A MIGHT
LEND.
NO OH IN A.
MY M..
NEXT.
QUESTION MISTER CHAIRMAN IS ON.
I HAD ABILITY LAST YEAR IN
ADDITIONTO SP THREE ONE FIVE.
WAS S. B. THREE ONE FOUR.
AND THE BILL MY UNDERSTANDING
WAS A IT WAS EXTREMELY NARAL.
VILLAGE JUST ENDED UP BEING ONE
SCHOOL.
ON IN MY DISTRICT IS IT'S AN
HONOR IF IT'S AND I'M IMPROVE IT
WAS EXTREMELY NARROW DOWN TO
SPECIFIC THAT'S COOL. THAT
STUDENTS FROM THAT SCHOOL CAN
APPLY.
FOR ON CERTIFICATION WITH HIM TO
SEE TO GET THEIR LICENSE USING.
THERE'S HOURS FROM. THAT SCHOOL.
ON WE JUST HEARD BACK.
N.
YOU KNOW THAT.
THIS IS NOT THE CASE YOU KNOW
THAT AFTER THE MY ND MY AND
THIS DAYS AFTER THE BILL WAS
PASSED.
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL
WASN'T GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED TO
JENNIFER'S I KNOW SOME STUDENTS
CALLED AND. THEY WERE TOLD.
CMT SEE CAN DO INDEED TO JANUARY
FIRST.
AND WHEN JANUARY FIRST CAME
AROUND. OF AND YELLED THEY'VE
FINALLY HEARD BACK MAYBE COUPLE
MONTHS LATER. THE NOW THEY HAVE
TO ON.
PASS.
A THE M. B. L. YAKS EXAM.
WHICH IS THE FEDERATION OF STATE
MASSAGE BOARD.
OF BUT.
THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THAT BOARD
WILL ALLOW THEM TO TAKE.
BECAUSE THERE HOURS A COMING
FROM AN UNAPPROVED SCHOOL FROM
SEED TO SEE.
HOW?
THAT WASN'T BROUGHT TO MY
ATTENTION LAST YEAR. THAT THAT'S
THE NEXT HURDLE WE THOUGHT THAT
YOU KNOW ON.
I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEES
EXPECTATION IN THOUGH IS THAT.
THE COUNCIL WILL FIND SOME MEANS
ARE TO.
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT HAPPENED AND
WHERE ARE WE WITH THE BILL.
BECAUSE I HOPE THAT WE DIDN'T DO
A BILL AND IT'S.
IGNORED.
I KNOW TO THIS DAY NONE OF THE
STUDENTS FROM THAT SCHOOL.
A IS ABLE TO.
GET ANYWHERE THEY DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHAT TO DO.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
SURE I USE OVERSEE APPROVAL
SCHOOLS AND WE GIVE THAT TO
ALISON OVERSEAS INDIVIDUAL
APPLICANTS.
YEAH THANK YOU SO THAT BILL WAS
PASS AND CDC IS FULLY COMPLYING
WITH THE. WITH THAT BILL THE
ISSUE THAT OCCURRED IS THAT IN
THE BILL LANGUAGE IN THE BILL
THOSE PEOPLE. HAD HAVE RECEIVED
EDUCATION BY JULY ONE OF TWENTY
SIXTEEN.
AND THAT'S HOW THAT BILL IS SO
NARROW IT DOES RELATE JUST TO
ONE SCHOOL BUT IT ALSO RELATES.
TO EDUCATION RECEIVED AT A
PARTICULAR TIME FRAME. WHICH IS.
.
I'M SORRY JULY ONE OF TWENTY
SIXTEEN I THINK I MAY HAVE
MISSPOKEN IT'S A JANUARY I
APOLOGIZE.
ANYWAY SO FOR THOSE STUDENTS.
THERE WAS AN A. FS MTV POLICY
WHICH IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE. WHO
ADMINISTERS ONE OF THE EXAMS
THAT SEEM TO SEE? ACCEPTS IS AN
APPROVED EXAM WHERE THEY DID
CHANGE THEIR POLICY THAT AFTER
JULY ONE OF TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
THEY WOULD ONLY ALLOW
NDIVIDUALS TO SIT FOR THE EXAM
IF THEY ATTENDED AN APPROVED
SCHOOL.
AND THAT POLICY THAT'S A A
NATIONAL ORGANIZATION AND NOT
POLICY APPLIES ACROSS THE BOARD.
TO EVERY STATE IT'S NOT JUST A
CALIFORNIA THING IT'S A NATIONAL
POLICY.
AND SO.
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT
THOSE STUDENTS HAVE GRADUATED.
AND COMPLETED EDUCATION AND BY
JULY ONE OF TWENTY SIXTEEN.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SIT FOR
THE EXAM FOR A YEAR FROM THAT
DATE SO THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO
SIT FOR THE AND LEX EXAM.
ANYWHERE BETWEEN JULY ONE OF
TWENTY SIXTEEN. AND JULY ONE OF
TWENTY SEVENTEEN AND ACTUALLY
BEFORE THAT.
SO THEY COULD HAVE SAID THOUGHT
FOR THAT EXAM. AFTER THEY
COMPLETED THE EDUCATION.
THE EXAM REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN A
REQUIREMENT SINCE TWENTY
FIFTEEN.
SO SEE INDICES LAW SPECIFICALLY
STATES THAT IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE
TO BE CERTIFIED. THEY MUST HAVE
PASSED TO CMT SEE APPROVED
EXAMPLE THEY MUST PASS
I SEEM TO SEE APPROVED EXAM.
SO THOSE STUDENTS HAVE THE
ABILITY TO SIT FOR THE EXAM IF
THEY WANT APPLY FOR
CERTIFICATION. AND THAT ABILITY
EXISTED AND WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT LEGISLATION BUT THE WHOLE
TIME THAT ABILITY EXISTED THEY
HAVE THE ABILITY TO SIT FOR THE
EXAM. THIS POLICY DID GO TO
AFFECT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT.
TO BE INFORMED ALL OF THE
SCHOOLS OF THAT THAT POLICY
WOULD BE GOING INTO EFFECT.
IN JULY OF TWENTY SIXTEEN SO
YEAR BEFORE THEY PUT THAT POLICY
INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY MAJOR SO
I GET IT YOU REPEAT YOURSELF NOT
THREE TIMES.
OKAY ON.
SO IF YOU WERE OR IF I WAS A
STUDENT FROM THERE THAT SCHOOL
IT WAS A CHAOTIC CHAOS LAST
YEAR.
ON I DON'T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE
AND ASH I MET WITH THE STUDENTS
A LOT OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY
CHINESE MORE THAN THEY WERE
VIETNAMESE.
ON I MET WITH THEM IN A GROUP A
AND THERE WERE ABOUT ARNOLD
TWENTY THIRTY FORTY STUDENTS IN
THE ROOM BECAUSE THEY WERE.
QUESTION FINING OUT TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND.
I'M YOU KNOW I GUESS ONE OF THE
THING IS THAT IF I WAS THEM.
I WOULD PROBABLY WAY.
AND SEE WHAT THE BILL WAS TO
REALLY ASH UNDERSTAND THE BILL.
AND NOT KNOWING AND THINKING
THAT OKAY I HAVE TO GO TO SEE
MTC.
USE YOUR ORGANIZATION NEVER
RESPONDED TO THE STUDENTS TO
TELL THEM SPECIFICALLY.
THEY HAVE TO TAKE THAT EXAM TO
DECEMBER.
OF LAST YEAR.
OKAY WE HAVE THE EMAILS.
SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
IF YOU WERE I MEAN.
IF YU'RE A STUDENT WHO CAN'T
SPEAK THE LANGUAGE AND HAS.
HER THAT THERE'S A BILL THAT
PASSED AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND
WORK WITH CMT SEE.
YOU'RE ORGANIZING HIS AND THEN
RESPOND TO THE STUDENTS THROUGH
DECEMBER OF TWO THOUSAND AND
SIXTEEN.
HOW WOULD THEY KNOW?
YOU ASSUME THAT THE STUDENTS ARE
SO WELL.
EDUCATED IT IS WRONG.
THE BILL WAS WE HOPE THE
STUDENTS GET A CAREER.
YOU JUST DESTROYED THEIR CAREER
WITHOUT EVEN INFORMING MY OFFICE
THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.
I WENT THROUGH AN ENTIRE YEAR.
YOU'RE BASICALLY SAT THERE YOU
KNEW THIS WAS GOING ON HE NEVER
ONCE SAID AT THE HEARINGS THAT
WE HAD. IN THE SENATE SIDE THE
HEARINGS THAT WE HAD IN THE
ASSEMBLY SY.
NOT ONCE WAS I TOLD THERE WAS
ANOTHER EXAM.
NOT ONCE MY UNDERSTANDING THE
STUDENTS WERE NOT TOLL
SPECIFICALLY BY YOU OR MY OFFICE
WAS NOT A FORM THROUGH DECEMBER
OF TWO THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN.
I MEAN NOTES SEVENTEEN AND THEN
LET ME JUST SAY THE EXAM
REQUIREMENT HAS EXISTED SINCE
TWENTY FIFTEEN. IT'S ON THE
APPLICATION IT'S ON THE WEBSITE
BUT YOU KNOW WE WON'T KNOW BUT
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YES I BELIEVE THAT I'M GONNA
ASSUME PUTTING MYSELF IN THEIR
SITUATION IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA
DEPEND ON CMT SEE AT THIS POINT
THE BILL PASSED THEY'RE GONNA
BUT THEY DO NOT. BELIEVE THAT
THEY HAVE TO DO EXACTLY WHAT CMT
SEES TELL THEM AND ACTUALLY
THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THEM.
FOLLOW WHATEVER CFTC TELLS YOU
TO DO.
IT IS THE BASED ON THE
INFORMATION THAT WE'VE JUST
HEARD IN THE TIMING.
THE FAULT IN THE RE EXAMINATION
I GUESS OF THE OR THE
EXAMINATION OF THE STUDENTS.
AFTER THEY'VE TAKEN THE COURSES
FROM A NON APPROVED SCHOOL. IS
THERE A PATH FORWARD WITHOUT
THAT PARTICULAR JAM IS ARE
ANOTHER EXAM THAT IS AVAILABLE
THAT THAT STUDENTS CAN TAKE TO
VERIFY THEIR.
YOUR EDUCATIONAL A COMPETENCY
FOR A LOT FOR.
CERTIFICATION SANTEE CA HAS
APPROVED MORE THAN ONE EXAM
THEIR OTHER EXAMS THAT ARE
APPROVED.
THEY APPROVED ON THE NCB TMB BUT
THAT THEY STOPPED OFFERING THAT
AS A FAVORITE ONE OF TWENTY
FIFTEEN SO.
FOR STUDENTS WHO COMPLETED
EDUCATION TWENTY SIXTEEN THAT
PREDATES THEIR EDUCATION.
THERE IS ALSO AN EXAM AND I'M
FROM.
STARTED WHEN I GET THE ACRONYM
WRONG BUT IT'S.
I THINK IT'S BC .
PORTS ARE.
A B. C. TMB. ANSWER IS ALSO
ANOTHER EXAM AND THEN THE. THAT
WE ALSO ACCEPT THE NEW YORK EXAM
WHICH OF COURSE IS A NEW YORK NO
THAT'S NOT YOUR REAL WORLD.
TELEPHONE CALIFORNIA BUT THERE
ARE OTHER EXAMS HIS LEG BUT I
BUT I WOULD I WOULD JUST LIKE TO
SAY YOU KNOW SCHOOLS HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY.
I MEAN THE SIX THIS EXAM
REQUIREMENT HAS EXISTENCES
TWENTY FIFTEEN AND SCHOOLS HAVE
A RESPONSIBILITY TO INFORM
STUDENTS. OF THE REQUIREMENTS
WHEN YOU'RE GREAT WHEN YOU. ARE
A. ORGANIZATION IN AN ETHNIC
COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU'RE.
TOLD BY YOUR SENATOR WE'RE GOING
TO THIS PROCESS TO WORK YOU'D
WALK YOU THROUGH CMC TTC.
AND THEN ALL THEY'RE DOING IS
CONTINUE COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR
ORGANIZATION I'VE SEEN THOSE
EMAILS THEY'RE NOT VERY HELPFUL.
OKAY THAT MEANS THAT THE LENGTH
OF TIME OF RESPONSE.
BIG BIG BIG THE SHORTNESS OF THE
RESPONSE THE LACK OF DETAIL.
OF THOSE RESPONSE.
IT IS IT IS FOR ME IS THE BUT
THE GOAL WAS THE BILL WAS TO
HELP A GROUP OF STUDENTS.
WHO WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET
THERE THEIR HOURS?
AND THE LEGISLATOR ACTUALLY.
BLASTED.
BIPARTISAN THE GOVERNOR SIGNED
IT. IT WAS VERY NARAL.
AND NOW.
WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE ALL YOU
CAN SAY THAT THEY EXAM EXIST
THIS IS TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN.
ALL DUE RESPECT MA'AM. IT I'D
EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.
YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME YOU GUYS
WERE IN THOSE COMMITTEE
HEARINGS.
EVEN WILL TRY TO EVEN WRITE THE
BILL. YOU WHAT YOUR ORGANIZING
WAS NO WHERE ALL WE HAD WAS.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE WAS YOU
DIDN'T CARE WHAT MY OFFICE HAVE
TO SAY YOU TO CARE FOR THE
STUDENTS AT ALL.
AND AT THIS POINT WE ARE WHERE
WE ARE TODAY.
THANK YOU SENATOR NEWMAN.
IS THERE A PATH THROUGH THE
STUDENTS.
AS I MENTIONED IS THERE ARE YOU
CAN TAKE ONE OF THE OTHER EXAMS
THE THERE IS THE AVAILABILITY OF
THAT YES THERE ARE OTHER
EXAMPLES.
THEN YOU HAVE ACCESS SENATOR IN
WINTER I I DIDN'T SO THAT THEY
CAN BE INFORMED OF THE.
EXAM PROCESS THAT IS AVAILABLE
TO THEM NOW AYE AYE I CAN GET TO
THE ORGANIZATIONS AND MAKE SURE
THAT THE STUDENTS GET THE EMAIL
WE ALSO HAVE. EMAILS AT THE
STUDENTS SOME OF THEM NOT ALL
THAN THE ONE THAT I MET A YEAR.
TO GO NOW.
BONTA MAKE SURE THERE'S A PATH
FORWARD THAT THEY CAN.
SHE'D AND UTILIZE THE EDUCATION
THAT THEY HAVE SO THAT THEY CAN
BE THAT CAN BE. TESTED AND
VERIFIED TO THEIR PROFICIENCY
AND THEN THEY CAN GET
CERTIFICATION SENATOR.
NO THANK YOU.
.
ASH I SHOULD JUST MENTIONED
CENTER AND WHEN IS NOT THE ONLY
ONE WHO HAS HEARD FROM PEOPLE.
AND.
SENATE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AROUND
COMMITTEE I HEARD IN MY OWN AS
WELL WE THOUGHT WE HAD
ADDRESSED.
SITUATION.
WITH THE US EARNINGS BILL BUT
APPARENTLY.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE I JUST WANT
TO CLARIFY AND APOLOGIZE FOR
WALKING AND SO.
THERE IS A PASS.
SAID THERE IS A HE SAID THERE'S
AN EXAM THEY CAN TAKE THAT DOES
NOT REQUIRE.
THEM TO READY.
BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IS THIS
THE REASON THE CHALLENGE WE HAD
THAT WORK WITH US THE.
IT AS I GUESS THE STATUS OR
LACK OF STATUS OF THE SCHOOL
THEY WENT TO BEFORE WE WERE
TRIED BECAUSE.
BEGAN WE WON'T GO THROUGH ALL
THE DETAILS OF WHITE BILLS DONE
SO THERE'S NOW A PATH FOR THE
STUDENTS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE
THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT STUCK IN
THIS.
.
SITUATION WHERE WELL I'D MY
SCHOOL IS STILL IN LIMBO SO I
CAN'T TAKE THE EXAM SO I CAN GET
I CAN'T GO TO WORK.
SO WITH THAT THAT'S THAT'S GONNA
BE THAT'S FIXED DR BENNETT THERE
THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT AND AND
WHAT WE'VE BEEN SENATOR AND WHEN
POINTED OUT AND.
CLEARLY THAT THE EXAM THAT WAS
REQUIRED OR SUGGESTED.
EXPIRED BASICALLY LAST YEAR
THAT NO LONGER ALLOWS ANYONE TO
TAKE THE TEST IN THIS THEY'VE
BEEN.
SCHOOLED AT AN APPROVED SCHOOL
AND.
SO THAT KIND OF A ELIMINATES
THAT PARTICULAR EXAM BUT WE JUST
HEARD THERE ARE THERE IS A PATH
AND OTHER. TESTS IN THAT ARE
AVAILABLE AND AND LET ME JUST
SAY I'M. PERSONALLY NOT FAMILIAR
WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE
OTHER EXAM I DO KNOW THAT THEIR
EXAMS.
SAID OKAY. OKAY SOMEBODY ELSE'S
I HEARD OR YOU DON'T AND SO.
THERE ARE OTHER EXAMS THAT IT
SEEMED DE SEUS APPROVE MORE THAN
ONE EXAM OKAY SO SOMEONE GONNA
GET BACK TO US FROM CMT SEED TO
TELL US EXACTLY WHAT'S A PATHWAY
SO WE CAN ACT EDUCATE. THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE REACHING OUT TO
OUR OFFICES.
AND.
OKAY.
SO YES I CAN LOOK UP AND SEE
EXACTLY WHAT THE WHAT THE
REQUIREMENTS ARE OKAY ALRIGHT I
ASK HIGHER STANDARD. OKAY SO LET
ME JUST CLARIFY.
WHAT WE NEED TO?
WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED A PATH
OR THESE
STUDENTS?
OKAY SO IF YOU GO AND YOU FIND
OUT THAT NONE OF THE EXAMS YOU.
NONE OF THE ALTERNATIVE EXAMS
OTHER EXAMS THAT YOU HAVE.
WILL SERVE THAT PURPOSE.
I HOPE YOU TAKE IT IS YOUR
CHARGE IN THE LEGISLATURE AND
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL TO
COME UP WITH A PATHWAY.
AND NOT LIKE THREE YEARS FROM
NOW NEXT YEAR FROM NOW.
OKAY SO HOPEFULLY THE ANSWER IS
YES THERE'S THIS EXAMS THE ONE
THEY CAN TAKE.
IF IT TURNS OUT NONE OF THOSE
EXAMS WORK.
I HOPE YOU MAKE THIS YOUR TOP
PRIORITY.
TO COME UP WITH THE PATHWAY AND
REPORT BACK TO.
I DON'T KNOW PERHAPS THIS
COMMITTEE ARE AND I THINK IT'S
BETTER AND YOUR GUESTS WE
CORRECTLY IS WHAT WE'RE WE'RE
SEEING IS THAT THE. WE HAVE TO
MAKE THE PROFESSION AVAILABLE TO
THOSE WHO HAVE GONE TO A SCHOOL.
WITH I'M SURE BEST OF INTENTIONS
WITH THE BEST OF OF COMMITMENT
AND AND.
AND.
AND GOAL IN MIND FOR A
PROFESSION THAT THEY COULD.
WORK FROM SO WE HAVE TO FIND A
PATH AND WHETHER THERE'S OF AN
AD ATTESTING PATH THAT'S
AVAILABLE AN EXAMINATION PATH.
IF NOT THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK
FOR SOME OF THE EXCEPTION THAT
WOULD BE CREATED TO DO THIS AND
ONE WHERE THE OTHER WE HAVE TO
BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS BECAUSE.
I'M IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE F.
IN MTB DECIDED NOT TO.
ALLOW FOR THIS TEST AND THE
TESTING ANY LONGER FROM THOSE
NON ACCREDITED OR APPROVED
SCHOOLS SO.
BECAUSE OF THAT WE NEED TO FIND
A PATH AND WE WE WILL WE'LL GET
THERE AND SO. PLEASE IF THE.
COUNCIL COULD DEVELOP.
PATHWAYS LET US KNOW WITH THAT
PATHWAY IS HOW.
INVOLVED IT IS OR HOW.
.
CHALLENGE UNIT MAY BE FOR
SOMEONE TO MAKE IT WE DON'T WANT
TO SOMEONE HERE AGAIN THE NEW
YORK TEST IS APPROVAL DON'T HAVE
SOMEONE. TO ACTUALLY CLAIM
RESIDENCY IN NEW YORK TO PASS
THE TEST.
BUT SOME PATH IT WOULD WORK AND
THEN IF IF THAT MEETS WITH WHAT
THE COMMITTEE LOOKS LIKE THEN WE
WOULD GO FORWARD WITH THAT IF
NOT THEN WE WILL LOOK AT SOME.
EXEMPTIONS.
CHAIR IS IT WOULD BE
INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ASK.
THAT MY OFFICE INTERESTS AND
WHEN THE PROBLEM WHAT THE SAME
THAT BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK WE
HAVE A REPORT. ON WHAT THE
STATUS IS OF OF THE SITUATION I
THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE THANK
THAT'S ENOUGH TIME TO TO FIND
GET A SOLUTION TO THAT AND THEY
CAN. AND WHAT WE CAN CERTAINLY
DO IS IS ALSO HAVE A.
AN ADDITIONAL HEARING PRIOR TO
ONE OF OUR.
A NORMAL BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT HEARINGS THAT THAT
WE HAVE SO WHAT WILL. YOU THAT'S
A WEEK FROM FRIDAY IF WE CAN GET
SOME INFORMATION BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE
THAT THE.
TWO SENATORS ARE INVOLVED IN
THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR LIFE.
THANK YOU. VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
PATIENCE TODAY APPRECIATED.
.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE FINAL.
PANEL OF THE DAY.
NUMBER SEVEN RECOMMENDED BEST
PRACTICES REGISTRATION OF
ASSAULT ESTABLISHMENTS AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS.
SOON.
THANK.
SO LIKE TO INVITE TO TONY SICK
OF THIS THING.
AND.
.
REPRESENTING THE AMERICAN
MASSAGE THERAPY ASSOCIATION.
LIKE CALGARY A LONGTIME FRIEND
AND A.
.
POLICE CHIEF FROM OF MY CITY AND
COUNTY AND A BOARD MEMBER THE
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THEIR BE
CANCELED AND FORMER POLICE CHIEF
REDEMPTIVE HOA. AND REPRESENTS
FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA
CITIES TO DISCUSS FUTURE CHANGES
AND BEST PRACTICES WE CAN ADOPT
TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS WE
HAVE HEARD ABOUT TODAY. FOR
MASSAGE THERAPY PRACTITIONERS
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS LIKE WARIS.
SO WE WILL BEGIN.
.
TONY
THIS IS ACCURATE.
WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE WE GO.
LATE AFTERNOON THANK YOU SORRY
AGAIN MY APOLOGIES AND
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR PATIENTS.
I ALWAYS FIGURE I'M GONNA SPEND
THE DAY.
A GOOD AND WE DO AS WELL. MY
NAME IS TONY PSYCHOSIS ON THE
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS CHAIR FOR
THE CALIFORNIA CHAPTER THE
AMERICAN MASSAGE THERAPY
ASSOCIATION. I'VE BEEN A
PROFESSIONAL MASSAGE THERAPIST
FROM MOST TWENTY FIVE YEARS AND
I'VE BEEN A SEEM TO SEE
CERTIFIED MASSAGE THERAPIST
SINCE MY RETURN TO CALIFORNIA
FIVE YEARS AGO.
I WOULD LIKE TO THINK SENATOR
HILL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
AND STAFF FOR HOLDING THIS
HEARING TODAY AND FOR INVITING
US TO TESTIFY.
BEST PRACTICES FOR REGULATING
MIDSIZE BUSINESSES ARE NOT
COMPLICATED IN THEORY OR
EXECUTION BUT THEY'VE PROVEN
VERY SCARCE ACROSS THE STATE
WILL MANY CITIES HAVE PICKED UP
PIECES OF GOOD REGULATION MOSTLY
WE SEE ABSTRACTION IN
DISCRIMINATION.
BEST PRACTICE RESTS ON FOUR
THINGS ONE CREATE FILTERS
INSTEAD OF BARRIERS MASSAGE
THERAPY IS AN INDUSTRY. AS AN
INDUSTRY IS NOT A PARTICULARLY
PROFITABLE ONE THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE SALARY FOR MASSAGE
THERAPISTS IS UNDER TWENTY SEVEN
THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR. WE
MAKE A LIVING BUT VERY FEW OF US
ARE RICH OR GET RICH DOING WHAT
WE DO. IF WE HAVE TO PAY
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO OPEN A
PRACTICE THAT IS THE FUNCTIONAL
EQUIVALENT OF A PROHIBITION
AGAINST CREATING OUR BUSINESSES.
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE PROVIDE A
VALUABLE HEALTH AND WELLNESS
SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND
ARE NOT CRIMINALS.
EVERY ORDINANCE PROVISION THAT
FORCES US TO PUBLICLY DECLARE
THAT WE ARE NOT THE CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISES THAT IMPERSONATE OUR
BUSINESSES INCREASES DOUBT IN
THE PUBLIC'S MIND ABOUT OUR
BUSINESSES AND REINFORCES THE
LOGIC OF DISCRIMINATION.
THREE
CLOSE DOWN IMPOSTORS
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES
ARE ALWAYS A PROBLEM BUT THE
SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM CAN'T
BE BLOCKING THE CREATION OF NEW
BUSINESSES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
AFFORD TO OVERSEE THEM. INSTEAD
CREATE MORE COST EFFECTIVE TOOLS
FOR CLOSING THEM DOWN WHEN
NEEDED REVOKE A BILL ESTABLISH
PERMITS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TOOL
HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE JUST SUCH
A TOOL.
FOR.
RESPECT THE CERTIFIED
PROFESSIONAL THERAPIST THAT HAVE
MET THE CRITERIA THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE HAS SET FOR THEM.
SINCE MASSAGE THERAPIST
CERTIFICATION IS VOLUNTARY IT
LEAVES A POPULATION OF OTHER
PRACTITIONERS LOCALLY
CREDENTIALS ARE NOT CREDENTIALED
AT ALL THE LOCAL REGULATIONS
MUST SOMEHOW TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
EVERY VERSION OF THE MASSAGE
THERAPY ACT HAS EXPLICITLY
RIGHT TO REGULATE SUCH
PRACTITIONERS AS THEY SEE FIT
ALL WE HAVE EVER ASK IS THAT CA
MTC CERTIFIED THERAPIST BE
TREATED AS OTHER DIVISION TO
HEALING ARTS PRACTITIONERS ARE
TREATED.
SO WHY THEN AFTER ALL THESE
YEARS TO WE STILL GETS A LITTLE
TRACTION ON THIS WHY DO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS FIND IT SO DIFFICULT
TO REGULATE IS FAIRLY.
OF THE MISOGYNIST ALYSSA VA HAD
ADOPTED JUST LAST MONTH IS VERY
INSTRUCTIVE SO WE'RE GONNA USE
IT FOR QUICK UNDERSTANDING OF
NOT BEST PRACTICES.
OF THIS IS THE ENTIRE FINDINGS
IN INTENT LANGUAGE FROM THAT
ORDINANCE AYE YOU'LL RECOGNIZE
MY EDITORIALIZING WHEN YOU HEAR.
A THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS
IMPOSED BY THIS CHAPTER ARE
NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH
SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE
CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
READ THAT AS MASSAGE THERAPY
BUSINESSES REPRESENT A THREAT TO
OUR COMMUNITY.
BE
THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED BY VIRTUE
OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION FIVE ONE OF THREE ONE TO
REGULATE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS
AND IMPOSE REASONABLE STANDARDS
RELATIVE TO THE CONDITIONS OF
OPERATIONS OF THE MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENT.
READ THAT AS WE ARE AUTHORIZED
TO RESPOND TO THAT THREAT.
SEE.
THERE IS SIGNIFICANT RISK OF
INJURY TO MASSAGE CLIENTS WITH
CERTAIN MEDICAL CONDITIONS AND
THIS CHAPTER PROVIDE CERTAIN
SAFEGUARDS AGAINST INJURING
ECONOMIC LOSS SO FIRST YOU MIGHT
GET INJURED GETTING A MASSAGE.
DE
THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR ACTS OF
PROSTITUTION AND OTHER LIEU
UNLAWFUL SEXUAL ACTIVITY TO
OCCUR IN MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT.
COURTS HAVE LONG RECOGNIZED
MASSAGES A PERVASIVELY REGULATED
ACTIVITY AND THAT MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENT CAN BE BROTHELS IN
DISGUISE.
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF REASONABLE
STANDARDS FOR ISSUANCE OF
LICENSES OR PERMITS AND
RESTRICTIONS ON OPERATIONS WOULD
SERVE TO REDUCE THE RISK OF ACT
ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND HERE IS THE
PIVOT.
THE WORKERS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE
PROSTITUTES INSTEAD OF MASSAGE
THERAPIST AND THE COURTS BACK US
UP ON THIS PRESUMPTION AND THE
BURDENSOME REGULATIONS THAT GO
WITH IT.
E..
THE RESTRICTIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS
CHAPTER REDUCE THE BURDENS ON
THE CITY'S POLICE FORCE AND
PERMIT THE DEPLOYMENT OF
PERSONNEL SUCH THE MORE SERIUS
CRIMES CAN BE PREVENTED.
READ THIS AS THE FEWER OF THESE
THINGS WE HAVE THE MORE POLICE
ARE FREED UP TO DO MORE
IMPORTANT THINGS.
AND FINALLY F. THE REGULATIONS
AND.
RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED IN THIS
CHAPTER TEND TO DISCOURAGE
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS FROM
DEGENERATING INTO HOUSES OF
PROSTITUTION AND THE MEANS
UTILIZED IN THIS CHAPTER VERY
REASONABLE AND RATIONAL
RELATIONSHIP THE GOAL SOUGHT TO
BE ACHIEVED.
OH BY THE WAY NO MATTER WHAT YOU
DO WERE NEVER REALLY GOING TO
TRUST YOU.
THIS IS BEEN THE LENS THROUGH
WHICH LOCAL MASSAGE DECEPTION
REGULATION IS FOCUSED AND HAS
BEEN FOR DECADES.
NO THE PARTICULARLY DELIGHTFUL
TURN OF A PHRASE QUOTE
DISCOURAGE MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENTS FROM DEGENERATING
INTO HOUSES OF PROSTITUTION.
MIDSIZE BUSINESSES ARE NEVER
ABOVE SUSPICION THERE'S NO POINT
IN TIME THAT WE CAN ESTABLISH
OURSELVES ONCE AND FOR ALL AS
RESPECTABLE PROFESSIONALS AND
MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY. WE ARE EVERY HOUR OF
EVERY DAY AT RISK FOR
DEGENERATING INTO A HOUSE OF
PROSTITUTION.
THIS IS HOW WE GOT HERE.
SO THIS ORDINANCE CONTAINS MANY
THE TYPICAL PROVISIONS EIGHT
THOUSAND DOLLARS TO APPLY FOR
CUPE THOUSAND FOOT SPACING
BETWEEN TO MASSAGE
ESTABLISHMENTS REQUIRES
REDUNDANT BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR
SEEING TO SEE CERTIFICATE
HOLDERS. AND REQUIRES THAT
ESTABLISHMENTS POSTED THE SIGN.
BASICALLY IT SAYS.
THAT THE A LIST OF THE AHOPE
AUTHORITIES CAN WALK INTO YOUR
TREATMENT ROOM AT ANYTIME YOU
HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.
RELAX AND ENJOY YOUR MASSAGE.
ON THE PLUS SIDE.
THE THE SEVERE ORDINANCE DOES
CREATOR REVOKE WILL BUSINESS
LICENSE AND A FAIRLY QUICK
PROCESS FOR REVOKING THAT
LICENSE ENCLOSING NONCOMPLIANT
BUSINESSES.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT AFTER MAKING IT
VERY DIFFICULT TO OPEN A
BUSINESS LOCAL ORDINANCES THEN
LEAVE THEMSELVES NO EFFICIENT
AND EFFECTIVE WAY TO CLOSE
ESTABLISHMENTS ONCE THEY ARE
FOUND TO BE BREAKING THE LAW.
DESPITE REPEATED CITATIONS
COMMERCIAL SEX BUSINESSES REMAIN
OPEN.
LASTLY AND THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT ALYSSA VALLEJO IMPOSES
ALL OF THESE RESTRICTIONS AFTER
REQUIRING THAT ALL MASSAGE
THERAPIST THAT PRACTICE IN THE
CITY MUST BE CERTIFIED BY CMT'S.
DESPITE THE STANDARDS THAT
MASSAGE THERAPIST MUST MEET TO
QUALIFY FOR CERTIFICATION IT
DOES NOTHING TO LIFT THE CLOUD
OF SUSPICIONS FROM MY BUSINESS.
SO LET'S GO BACK TO BEST
PRACTICES INTO THE CITY OF
CENTER FELL.
AT THEIR OCTOBER FIFTH TWO
THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN MEETING THE
CENTER FELL CITY COUNCIL VOTED
TO TERMINATE THE CITY'S TEN
MONTH OLD MORATORIUM ON MISSILE
JUST ALISON.
THIS IS EXCERPTED FROM THE
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY SUBMITTED TO
THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT
MEETING.
QUOTE
BASED ON THE RESEARCH STAFF
RECOMMENDS THAT ZONING CHANGES
WOULD NOT BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL
TO SIGNIFICANTLY ADDRESS THE
ISSUE.
THE ISSUE WITH MASSAGE IS
RELATED TO THE PEOPLE WHO OWN IT
WORK AND RUN A BUSINESS NOT TO
THE LAND USE ITSELF IN THIS CASE
ZONING IS NOT THE BEST TOOL TO
REGULATE THOSE ISSUES.
ZONING IS MEANT TO REGULATE LAND
USES NOT PEOPLE ARE BUSINESS
OPERATIONS.
THE ISSUE WITH REGULATING
MASSAGE USES IS THAT IF YOU
PLACE TO MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS
ILLEGITIMATE ONE NEXT TO ONE
THAT PERFORMS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES
ZONING WOULD CONSIDER THEM THE
SAME.
THE ISSUES ARE HOW THE OPERATORS
RUN THEIR BUSINESSES AND WHETHER
THEY FOLLOW SOUND BUSINESS
PRACTICE.
GOES ON TO SAY THE CITY'S
ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS FOR THE PAST
TWO YEARS HAS PROVEN THAT
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MASSAGE
ORDINANCE WHICH INCLUDES
REGISTRATION REGULAR INSPECTIONS
AND ENFORCEMENT HAS ADDRESSED
MANY OF THE ISSUES EXPRESSED BY
THE CITY COUNCIL THE PUBLIC. AND
LEGITIMATE MASSAGE ESTABLISHED.
THIS IS A LINE OF REASONING THAT
LEADS TO REGULATORY REGIME THE
CLOSES COMMERCIAL SEX
ESTABLISHMENTS WHILE ALLOWING
MASSAGE THERAPIST TO OPEN AND
OPERATE THEIR. BUSINESSES.
SO CHEF CARLY HAS ALREADY SHARED
HIS SUCCESSES IN BACK OF BILL.
AND I COULD GO ON AT SOME LENGTH
ABOUT THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT
SEISMIC COUNTY BEFORE SILLY FOR
ALL OF YOU. ARE YOU HAVE MY CAL
YOU HERE TO DO A PROPER JOB OF
THAT.
BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE
CRUCIAL POINT ABOUT THE SAME
MATTEO COUNTY MASSAGE ORDINANCE.
THEY DEVELOP THEIR ORDINANCE IN
TWO THOUSAND AND TWELVE WHEN YOU
STAB OSMAN EXEMPTION FOR CMT SEE
CERTIFIED THERAPIST WAS STILL
PART OF THE MASSAGE THERAPY AT.
DURING THE EXACT SAME TIME
PERIOD THAT MAYORS AND POLICE
CHIEFS ACROSS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA RECLAIMING IN FRONT
OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT THEIR
QUOTE HANDS ERE TIED. AND THAT
S. B. SEVEN THIRTY ONE AND AB
SIX ONE NINE PREVENTED LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS FROM CONTROLLING THE
SPREAD OF COMMERCIAL SEX UNDER
THE GUISE OF MASSAGE. SIM INTO
COUNTY CREATED AN ORDINANCE THAT
THEY THEN USED TO CLOSE
COMMERCIAL SEX ESTABLISHMENTS
WHILE SUPPORTING THE
PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE OF
MASSAGE.
BUT WE HAVE SEEN FEW OCAL
JURISDICTIONS ADOPT THIS
APPROACH THESE EXAMPLES SHOW A
CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR
PROFESSION AND THE BEST
PRACTICES TO PROPERLY REGULATED.
CREATE FILTERS INSTEAD OF
BARRIERS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE
HEALING ARTS PROFESSIONALS NOT
CRIMINALS.
CLOSE DOWN IMPOSTORS USING
REVOKE OF ASTONISHMENT PERMITS
RESPECT THE CERTIFIED
THERAPISTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ATTENTION THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MEASURES LIKE THAT CYCLE.
YOU CAN TALK IF WE DIDN'T PLAY
FOR FOUR FIVE DON'T.
MISTER COUNTY WELCOME
AGGRESSIVE THUNDERDOME THROUGH
GOOD TO SEE YOU IN A GOOD THING.
ISSUE.
.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ABOUT THE
VOCAL REGISTRATION PROCESS SAID
THAT WE'VE ADOPTED IN SAN MATEO
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEST
PRACTICES.
I DO BELIEVE AFTER BEING IN
THIS BUSINESS ARE ON THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SIDE NOW IN THE
COUNTY MANAGEMENT SIDE FOR MANY
YEARS NOW. THAT THIS IS A BEST
PRACTICES THAT SAVES THE SILVER
BULLET THAT MORE CITIES MORE
COUNTIES NEED TO ADOPT.
YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US THIS TOOL
WE SEEM TO COUNTY WERE USING IT.
PRIOR TO.
IT BEING CODIFIED.
OR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED
AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING US TO
CERTIFY MASSAGE BUSINESSES WE DO
IT FOR FREE.
AND WE DO A TO ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH.
AND WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO.
IS TO IMMEDIATELY AND I ALMOST
MEAN REAL TIME SHUT DOWN AN
ILLEGAL BUSINESS.
THAT IS VIOLATED VIOLATED.
USE COUNTY ORDINANCE.
BECAUSE STATE LAW FEDERAL LAW
BERNIE CITY ORDINANCE.
THAT ALLOWS US TO GO IN AND A
EAST INSPECT AND EXAMINE GATHER
EVIDENCE INEFFECTIVELY CLOSE
THESE PLACES DOWN. FOR GOOD
ALLOWS A SURGICAL STRIKE ON
THOSE ARE ESTABLISHING SINCE
THAT A PAINTING WITH A BROAD
WITH A. BROAD BRUSH HERE WE LOOK
FOR THOSE.
WHO ARE VIOLATING THE LAW?
AND THEN WE PUT HIM OUT OF
BUSINESS IT'S SIMPLE AS THAT.
GOOD ZATANNA'S PLAYERS SO STATED
THE RED LEAD ABATEMENT PROCESS
IS OUT THERE IT IS ARDUOUS IT IS
FINANCIALLY TAXING. AND IT IS
VERY UNFAIR AN INEFFECTIVE IT AT
ADDRESSING THIS.
THIS PROCESS IS ONE THAT YOU'VE
GIVEN US.
EVERY CITY NEEDS TO AVAIL
THEMSELVES OF THIS.
WE IN CEMETERY COUNTY HAD.
FIVE IN THE COUNTY AREA FIVE.
ILLEGAL A MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT.
IN EACH IN A JUST A SMALL
GEOGRAPHIC AREA WE WERE ABLE TO
IMMEDIATELY GO AND IMPLEMENT
THIS SHUT THEM DOWN AND.
NO LEGAL.
MASSAGE PRACTICE HAS NOT OPENED
UP ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY AREA
ARE GOING SAN MATEO COUNTY TO BE
A FIRST COUNTY.
WITH NO ILLEGAL MASSAGE
BUSINESSES WE WANT THE OTHER
BUSINESSES TO FLOURISH THESE ARE
LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES THAT NEED
TO FLOURISH AND I IN EVERY CITY
AND COUNTY.
BUT WE'VE GOT A SUITOR AS THOUGH
WE'VE GOT A STRIKE THOSE
BUSINESSES THAT HAVE REALLY
HIJACK THIS BUSINESS.
AND THOSE WHO ARE OPERATED BY
CRIMINALS AND IN HUMAN
TRAFFICKERS.
WE HAVE THE TOOL YOU GIVEN IT
YOU'VE GIVEN IT THAT TO S. WE
JUST NOW TO NEED TO SPREAD THE
WORD AND MAKE SURE EVERY CITY
AND COUNTY. HOUSES IN THEIR TOOL
CHEST TO IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN
THESE ESTABLISHMENTS.
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU
AND AND IF I COULD ASK BEFORE
WE.
FINISH THE OTHER PANEL. TO JUMP
IN HERE MISTER KELLY HOW.
HE SAID YOU DO IT AT NO COST.
THERE'S KNOW PERMIT FEE THERE'S
NO APPLICATION FEE WELL THERE'S
HAVE FOR FOR THE A CERTIFICATE
ITSELF NO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO
FEE THERE WOULD BE INSPECTION
FEES LIKE FOR FOR EVERY OF FOR
EVERY BUSINESS ARE. THAT WE
WOULD DIE SORT BY NORMAL
AFFECTIONATELY PRIOR INSPECTION
ALL THOSE THINGS BUT FOR THE
CERTIFICATION NO WE DON'T CHARGE
ANYTHING.
IT AGAIN IS DONE THROUGH
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IN IT GIVES
US IS REALLY THEIR TICKET
OPERATE. AND WHEN THEY VIOLATE
THE LAW WE IMMEDIATELY PULL THAT
TICKET AND PUT HIM OUT OF
BUSINESS.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE FINANCIAL
INCENTIVE OUT OF THIS INDUSTRY.
AND FOR FOR.
OWNERS AND OPERATORS TO KNOW
THAT IF THEY SET UP AN ILLEGAL
BUSINESS INVEST TWENTY THIRTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE NEXT DAY
THEY COULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.
THEY'RE GNNA GO ON TO SOMEPLACE
ELSE WHICH DOESN'T HAVE THIS
TYPE OF WOULDN'T YOU NAMI
CITIZENS HIM TO COUNTY OF
ADOPTED. ARE ALMOST ALL OF THEM
NOW VERY FEW OF THE TWENTY ARE
ALMOST.
ALMOST ALL OF MY PICTURES MAYBE
FOR THAT HAVE NOT.
WONDERFUL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY.
IT.
THANK YOU SHARE IT REAL QUICK
QUESTION MISTER KELLY SO WHAT
WHAT'S THE BASIS. OF FOR THE
CERTIFICATION ME AGAIN YOU DON'T
WHAT.
IT'S IT'S ZERO IT'S VERY EASY
IT'S REALLY WE JUST TAKE THE
INFORMATION OF THE OWNER THE
ADDRESS WHO WORKS HERE ON IT'S A
VERY BASIC FORM AND ALL IT IS IS
WE JUST GIVE THEM A CERTIFICATE
TO OPERATE AND AFTER YOU SEE
THAT BASIC INFORMATION.
IF THEY'RE CMT SEE CERTIFIED
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
BACKGROUND CHECK IF THEY'RE NOT
THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO GO
THROUGH A. BACKGROUND CHECK
I'M STILL IT'S VERY QUICK VERY
EASY AND.
AND THAT'S THAT METAL USED TO
REVOKE IF IN FACT ABOUT THE LAW
AND THEN THERE THEIR SUBJECT I
ASSUME TO INSPECTION YOU COULD
REPUBLIC ANYTIME THEY ARE.
WE SHOULD THANK YOU. AFTER BATES
WELCOME.
YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AGAIN
AND AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE IS AFTER.
AFTERNOON.
MISTER CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
STAFF AND AND GUESS THANK YOU
FOR INVITING ME TO TESTIFY THIS
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS RONALD
BATES I'M A. FORMER MAYOR AND
COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THE CITY LOS
ALAMEDA LOS.
FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND I'M
PRIVILEGED TO REPRESENT THE
LEAGUE.
ARE ON THIS CA SEE A MTC BOARD
OF DIRECTORS SO.
UP THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ON MY
BACKGROUND I PLEASED TO SAY THAT
THE LAW THE LEGISLATURE S. PASS
WITH RESPECT TO MASSAGE THERAPY
ALL THE LOS REALLY.
I HAVE ASSISTED CITIES IN THE
PROVISION IN REGULATION OF
CERRO.
OF SAFE AND THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE
TO RESIDENTS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE
CITIES.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CA MTC
STAFF AND CITIES INCLUDING
POLICE CHIEFS DETECTIVES CODE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS CITY
MANAGEMENT.
OF CONTINUES TO IMPROVE ARE AS
MORE CITIES UPDATE THEIR MASSAGE
ORDINANCES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
STATE LAW. UP WHICH INCLUDES A
CAMP TECH CERTIFICATION OF
THERAPISTS.
THE LEAGUE COOPERATION WITH CA
MTC IS WORKING WITH AND
ENCOURAGING CITIES TO UPDATE AND
REFINE THEIR ORDINANCES
CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.
THE MTC SENIOR STAFF AS MANY
PRESENTATION AT LEAT CONFERENCES
THIS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO MAKE
A PRESENTATION. TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S ARE AT THEIR ANNUAL
CONFERENCE.
AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE COMMITTEE
REPORT WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK
TO DO TO FULLY INFORM AND THEN
ALLOW SUFFICIENT TIME. TO REPORT
FOR CITIES TO REVISE THEIR
MASSAGE THERAPY ORDINANCES
AS YOU CAN APPRECIATE CITIES
DIFFER EVERYTHING FROM LOS
ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO. TO
SMALLER CITIES THAT MAY HAVE ONE
OR TWO STAFF MEMBERS RESPONSIBLE
FOR IMPLEMENTING. THE MASSAGE
THERAPY ORDINANCE OR AMENDING
DID IN IN THEIR TOWNS
SO IT TAKES A DIFFERENT AMOUNT
OF TIME A LOT OF DIFFERENT
LEVELS OF UNDERSTANDING AS WE
MOVE FROM CITY TO CITY.
WELL I THINK THE POINT IS IS
THAT WERE MOVING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION AS YOU CAN SEE UP BY
SOME OF THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE
RECENTLY RECEIVED. OVER TWO
THIRDS OF THE MASSAGE THERAPISTS
HAVE FELT THAT CITIES ARE
DEALING WITH THEM. FAIRLY.
MY GUESS IS IF YOU DID A SURVEY
OF ALL THE BUSINESSES AND
COMMUNITIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND
ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
WE MIGHT BE LUCKY TO GET TWO
THIRDS BETTER SAYING THE SAME
THING SO I GUESS MY POINT TO YOU
WOULD BE. IS THAT WE ARE MAKING
PROGRESS CERTAINLY WE'D ALL LIKE
TO SEE IT BE MORE QUICKLY.
BUT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
UP IT SEEMS THAT THE LEGISLATURE
HAS CREATED A NEW MORE EFFECTIVE
MODEL WAS CA MTC WHEREBY COST
EFFECTIVE REGULATIONS OCCUR
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
CERTIFICATE HOLDERS TO PROVIDE
DUE PROCESS.
FOR DISCIPLINARY ISSUES UP TO
PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY CA MTC IS
ABLE TO SUSPEND A CERTIFICATION
IMMEDIATELY BASED ON INTELLECT
DECLARATION FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
AND TO TAKE FINAL ACTION ON
ENFORCEMENT AND APPEALS WITHIN
FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS AND YES.
THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING WHEN YOU
THINK ABOUT ALL THE DUE PROCESS
AND I CAN JUST TELL YOU THE
REPORTS THAT WE GET.
CAN BE MANY PAGES THICK SO IT'S
A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO
THAT AND IT'S DONE QUICKLY.
OF THIS REFINED PROCESS GREATLY
ASSIST CITIES THAT ARE DEALING
WITH THE ISSUES OF PROSTITUTION
HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS YOU KNOW
OTHER STATE. REGULATORY
PROCESSES TAKE CONSIDERABLY A
MORE TIME. OF ONE OF THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL ELEMENTS IN THIS IS I
THINK. THE LEAGUE WOULD SAY IN
OUR OPINION.
BUT IS THE CMT SEE PROCESS IN
CERTIFICATION OF THE SAUSAGE.
THERAPY SCHOOLS THAT'S REALLY
MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE
ALL THIS IS DRAMATICALLY
CURTAILED SOME SCHOOLS ACTING AS
DIPLOMA MILLS THAT FACILITATE
ILLICIT AND THE WORK ILLEGAL
BEHAVIOR. AS A RESULT
WELL I THINK THE QUALITY OF
THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE PROVIDED TOP
FAULT CALIFORNIANS. THOUGHT
CONTINUES TO IMPROVE.
CERTAINLY A IT'S NORMAL PERFECT.
OUR STATE LAW NEEDS TO BE
ADJUSTED WITH THE INPUTS FROM CA
MTC CITY COUNTY STAFF ON THE
REQUIREMENTS FOR BACKGROUND
CHECKS
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO.
TAKE A STEP BACK AND START
GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE IDEA OF
BUSINESS LICENSES AND THE CITY'S
ABILITY TO ISSUE A BUSINESS
LICENSE.
BECAUSE THAT IN MANY CASES IS
WHERE WE CAN TAKE APPROPRIATE
ACTION IS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
TRY TO GET A HEADS UP ON WHICH
BUSINESSES SAYS MIKE HAS JUST
SAID ARE GOING TO BECAUSE THIS
PROBLEM DOWN THE LINE AND WE
CAN.
PULL A BUSINESS LICENSE OR SOME
KIND OF CERTIFICATION IF NEED
BE.
SO IT SEEMS THAT RESPECTIVE
ATTORNEYS DISAGREED WITH REGARD
TO WORD IS NOW SO WE MAY NEED
SOME LEGISLATION TO CLEAR THIS
ISSUE UP.
IT SEEMS THAT THE TIMING OF THE
INITIAL CERTIFICATION A
BACKGROUND CHECK. BASED ON
APPLICATION FOR AND ISSUE IT'S A
BUSINESS LICENSES OR RELEVANT
ISSUES THAT MAY NECESSITATE FOR
EXAMPLE THE ADDITIONAL UP
BACKGROUND CHECK.
SO IN CLOSING LET LET ME JUST
SAY I COMPLEMENT THE LEGISLATURE
ON REALLY ON DESIGN OF MASSAGE
THERAPY CERTIFICATION SYSTEM.
THAT IS WORKING A DAY TO ASSIST
CITIES IN PROVIDING SAFE
THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE.
TO THEIR RESIDENTS SO THANK YOU
ALL FOR QUIRK APPRECIATE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
STRONG AND VERY.
YOU'RE FROM THE LEAK YES SIR
GOOD AFTERNOON A SHERMAN MEMBERS
JASON RILEY CALIFORNIA CITIES
CERTAINLY AGREE WITH OR DIE
MISTER BATES HAD TO SAY. I THINK
PROGRESS IS CERTAINLY BEING
MADE.
I THINK A COUPLE THIGS AND
NOTE IT WE'VE HEARD ME WE'VE
BEEN HERE ALL DAYTON US INTO
VARIOUS TESTIMONY AND WE'VE SEEN
SOME SOME SLIDES ON THE SCREEN.
I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO A YOU
KNOW FEES THEY'RE THEY'RE DC
SOME DISTINCTION HOW HOW THEY'RE
CHARGED. AND YOU THE FALL REALLY
INTO INTO TWO BUCKETS YOU HAVE
YOUR C. PEAS AND SENATOR DODD
MENTION YOU KNOW HOUSE THAT HAS
A METHODOLOGY YOU KNOW.
IT NOW WE ADDRESS THAT HOUSE IT
HAS APPLIED WHEN IT COMES TO SEE
YOU HERE YOU CRUCIAL USE PERMITS
THEY'RE ALL PLAYED EXACTLY THE
SAME THE METHODOLOGY IS EXACTLY
THE SAME IT'S IT'S IT'S.
REGULATED BY PROP TWENTY SIX
SO IT'S CITY WHEN THEY CHARGE
CONDITION USED FOR MAKING ONLY
CHARGE YOU FOR THE THE COST THIS
RENDER THAT SERVICE SO
BASICALLY.
YOU'RE GONNA TAKE STAFF TIMES
STAFF WAGES BY OUR SMALL PLAYER
THAT AND THEN THAT BECOMES THE
FEES SO COURSE IT'S GONNA VERY
DEPEND ON THE JURISDICTION.
DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS IN WILL
REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
OR MAY NOT REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT. A BUT THE REALLY
IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE HERE IS
THAT MANY MANY MANY BUSINESSES
ARE REQUIRED HAVE A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT WENT INSIDE A FEW OF
THOSE. BUT ALSO DID WELL I MEAN
OF THE HEALTH PROFANITY O. M.
I'M SURE BROUGHT HIS HE MAJOR
YOU KNOW SO YEAH ANYTHING TO DO
WITH FOR EXAMPLE OF LIQUOR
ESTABLISHMENTS ALL ARE REGULATED
INTO CONDITION USE PERMITS. WELL
I'M VERY MUCH IN THE IN THE
HEALTH OVERHEAD THE CLINICS IF
YOU SET UP A CLINIC IN YOUR TOWN
OR. PRACTICE THEY'RE GONNA WANT
SOME TYPE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR THAT THEY'RE GONNA
WANT TO COME AND LOOK AT ALL THE
LABORATORIES OTHER SIDE UP. HOW
YOUR WAY SYSTEM IS SET UP? WHAT
CITIES OR READ WITH A LABORATORY
OR A CLINIC?
ABOUT IT. CHIROPRACTOR'S OFFICE
CERTAINLY VERY WE ARE YOU KNOW
WE WILL RUN I SET ASIDE JURIST.
CONTACT.
YEAH YOU I DON'T KNOW OF ALL
THAT COMMISSION IS FRESNO STATE
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE
NOT UNCOMMON BY ANY MEANS AND.
YOU KNOW UNDER YOUR LAND USE
AUTHORITY WE DESIGNATE WHERE ALL
ESTABLISHMENT CAN OPERATE WITHIN
OUR JURISDICTION TO MOVING OUT
ONE AND OVER CONSTRUCTION
MEDICAL OFFICES IN ONE PART OF
THE TO. THE CITY FOR INSTANCE SO
WE WE SPLIT UP AND HAVE THEM IN
DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE STATE SO.
I'M YOU KNOW NO WAYS THIS IS NEW
ARE SINGLED OUT NUMBER SIZE I
MEAN I THINK THEY MAY FEEL THAT
WAY BECAUSE FOR NUMBER OF YEARS
ARTICLE IN SAUDI WAS STRIPPED
FROM US AND THAT WE COULDN'T
POSSIBLY. YOU HAVE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMITS ARE THE BACKGROUND
CHECKS ON THE BUSINESS OWNERS
AND THAT WAS RESTORED IN A
COUPLE YEARS AGO AND I THINK IT
WAS RESTORE BECAUSE THE
LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO
BALANCE.
YOU KNOW THE SPLIT FOR ASIAN OF
ILLICIT MASSAGER COMMITTEE
BECAUSE OWNERS WERE COMPLETELY
UNREGULATED AND LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS AND HAVE ABILITY
TO USE OUR LAND USE POWERS.
DEALT WITH AND I THINK WHAT A
DEBT UNDERSCORES THAT WAS THE
TESTIMONY WE HEARD EARLIER I'M
FROM FROM THE THIRD PERSON FROM
POLARIS. UNM THAT BASICALLY SAID
YOU KNOW WE GOT HAVE SOME HE
RIGHTLY THESE LAND USE THE
LANDOWNERS AND THE BUSINESS
OPERATORS AND THAT'S THE VOID
THAT I THINK WERE FILLING WITH
CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS BECAUSE.
THE LAWS VERY CLEAR THAT THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CANNOT
REGULATE THE PRACTITIONER AND I
DON'T THINK WE'RE ADVOCATING DID
YOU THAT IN ANY WAY BUT WE DO
MAINTAIN THE ABILITY.
TO REALLY THE BUSINESS OWNER
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE
ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND CHECK ME
SOME IS GOING TO CHECK IT NINE
PART OF THAT YOU WOULD PART OF
THE.
REVOKED HOLD ESTABLISHMENT
PERMIT THAT THAT MISTER CALLIE
AND AND.
HAS THAT THE GAME TO SEE IS.
BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND YOU
REALIZE YOU WERE PART OF THAT
DOES NOT WORK WE FULLY SUPPORT
AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE
OUR JURISDICTIONS TO DO IT. WITH
A COMPLETE WITH A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT ó OR.
SURE I DON'T I DESERVE ANYTHING
WHAT CONTENT IS YEAH THEY'RE NOT
EXCLUSIVE FOR SURE IT DOES IF
IT'S BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
BY USED BY SINGLING OUT A
MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT. VERSUS A
CHIROPRACTIC OFFICE OR AN
ACUPUNCTURIST OR TATTOO PARLOR I
MEAN. BY LOCAL ORDINANCE THEY
CAN ESTABLISH.
OUR MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT.
BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC
MINDSET THAT HAS BEEN AND
PREJUDICED AROUND THAT THEY CAN
CATEGORICALLY THAT THAT DOES
NEED A SPECIAL USE FOR A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT WAY IN
THE PAST AND THAT'S CONTINUE TO
THIS DAY WERE IS OTHER HEALTH
PROVIDERS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO
THAT
SO I I GUESS THAT.
GETS TO THE ISSUE YES YES
SENATOR I THINK THAT WILL BE
CHANGING ó BUT YOU STILL HAVE
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OF CONCERN.
FROM CITY TO CITY BUT I THINK
IT'S MORE CITIES GAIN THE
EXPERIENCE FOR EXAMPLE THAT
SACRAMENTO HAVE.
THE YOU PROBABLY ARE GOING TO
SEE MORE AND MORE CITIES JUST
CHANGED TOO OF SOME KIND OF A A
AND. WHAT I WANT YOU CALL IT A?
BASICALLY IT CHECK THAT SAYS HEY
AS LONG AS YOU DO BUSINESS
FAIRLY BUT I THINK UNTIL THAT
HAPPENED SOME CITY STILL ORGAN
ONE BOTH. OF THE.
* DIDN'T YOU YOU NEED THAT
COULD BE BY HOMELESS OKAY GO.
AHEAD PHYSICAL IF YOU HAD A
COMMENT.
TO.
BUT TO THE POINTS FROM THE
LEAGUE OF CITIES ARE
DISINGENUOUS ONE OF THEM IS.
THIS PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING IS
NOT REALLY INSIGHT FOR US IS
MASSAGE THEIR PERSON'S AB TWENTY
ONE NINETY FOUR WAS SIGNED INTO
LAW THERE BEEN SUMMER BETWEEN
THIRTY AND FORTY NEW CITY
ORDINANCE IN BRITAIN THAT WE'RE
AWARE OF. AND SOME MARINES TWO
THIRDS AND THREE QUARTERS OF
THOSE ORDINANCES ALL CONTAIN THE
SAME KIND OF RESTRICTED LAND
USES THAT WE HAVE SEEN ALL
ALONG.
SO WHEREVER THIS PROGRESSING
GETTING BETTER WE'RE NOT SEEING
IN THE CREATION OF NEW
ORDINANCES IN THE LAST YEAR AND
A HALF.
THE SECOND THING IS IS THAT TO
COMPARE THE FOOTPRINT OF A
MASSAGE THERAPY BUSINESS TO A
MEDICAL LAB.
IS
APPLES AND FROGS.
OKAY IF YOU REQUIRE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMITTING FOR CHIROPRACTORS
PHYSICAL THERAPISTS ARE
ACUPUNCTURISTS SHOW ME WHERE
I'VE NEVER SEEN IT NOT ONCE
EVER.
SO IF THAT'S GOING ON WE'RE NOT
SEEING THAT IT'S ALWAYS THE
MASSAGE THERAPIST TO GET STUCK
WITH.
WELL I MEAN YOU KNOW I I I WE
CERTAINLY LOOK CONCEIVING A LIST
BUT I MEAN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT
THOSE PROFESSIONS AND HE
MENTIONED. YOU NOT HAVE THE
HISTORY THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH
MASSAGE AND YOU KNOW I THINK
THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER.
BUT I WOULD I WOULD ARGUE THAT
THE CITIES THAT YOU SEE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS OUR
PRIVACY IS THAT HAVE
HISTORICALLY HAD ISSUES AND OR
TRYING TO LOOK AT BUSINESS
OWNERS. HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK
MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THEY'RE
THERE TO HAVE A DEEPER DIVE IN
THEIR OPERATIONS BEFORE THE
ISSUE THAT PERMIT BUT AGAIN I
THINK YOU KNOW WITH MISTER
CLINTON WHAT HE MENTION ANY MORE
CITIES ARE GONNA GO THAT
DIRECTION BECAUSE. WE DON'T HAVE
TO REGULATE OUR BODY AND OUR
COMMUNITIES EITHER I MEAN WE
WANT THERE TO BE A YOU KNOW
PROSPEROUS ECONOMY ONE PEOPLE
TO.
TO WORK IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND
IN PROVIDE THESE IMPORTANT
SERVICES AND YOU KNOW SO WE WERE
NOT HERE TO TURN ADVOCATE FOR
FOR OVER REGULATION OF OF
ANYBODY BUT I THINK THE POINT
IS.
GENERALLY MASSAGE THERAPISTS ARE
TREATED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND
YOU KNOW IT IT AND WE CAN YOU
KNOW AGREED AGREE DISAGREE
WHETHER OTHER NEEDS TO BE CP
BUT.
I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT THE
THE GUY FROM PLAYERS WOULD
PROBABLY ARGUE THAT IT'S
PROBABLY APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE
THE LEVEL OF LISTEN TO SIZE IS
STILL HAPPENING. AND A NUMBER OF
OUR LARGER SO I I DON'T THINK
BASED ON THE CMT SEES CONCLUSION
THAT THEY HAVE NOT FOUND ONE.
NOT ONE.
DIFFICULT HOLDER VOTE YES AND WE
AGREE WE DON'T WANT ALLEGING
THAT THERE'S A PREDICTABLE THAT
I DON'T IS THE FIRST UP YEAH
JUSTIN WHOEVER VOCABLES.
A PERMIT THAT THEN WOULD SOLVE
THE OTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM SO
THAT I DON'T BELIEVE SHE'S
SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND EVERY
MASSAGE THAT WOULD WITH THE
CALIFORNIA.
TO SOLVE THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING
PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACED WITH.
RIGHT I WAS INSERTED.
I'M SEVEN COUPLE MORE THINGS AGO
WITH THIS IS THAT THE ISSUE IS
THAT THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT
ARE BEING TRAFFICKED THOSE
PEOPLE ARE NOT CREDENTIALED.
SO THE LOGIC OF HAVING LAND USE
RESTRICTIONS AT THE SAME TIME
THAT EVERY PRACTITIONERS
REQUIRED TO BE SEEN T. CERTIFIED
IS LOST ON ME.
BECAUSE NOW IT'S LIKE WE'VE
PAT'S CREDENTIALS WERE NOT BEING
TRAFFICKED WE'VE BEEN CERTIFIED
AND YET WE'RE STILL TREATED AS
IF WE ARE VICTIMS OR THAT WE ARE
ABOUT TO COMMIT CRIMES. AND SO
THIS EQUIVALENT SEEN THIS UPWARD
TREND AS IS I AM I MISSING.
AND THAT'S TRUE YOU WITH WHO
WERE TREATED.
TURNING THIS INTO A LAND USE
ISSUE.
WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE IT'S A
BUSINESS ISSUE AND IT'S A IT'S A
PROFITS IS ONE ILLICIT ILLEGAL
BUSINESS VERSUS?
A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS AND IT'S
BEING.
DEALT WITH THROUGH LAND USE AND
THAT'S NOT AT THE LAST THING IS
IS THAT BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE
THE PROCESS OF GETTING A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR BEING
ABLE TO SPACE A THOUSAND FEET
FROM ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT OF A
SCHOOL. GIVES YOU NO INFORMATION
ABOUT WHO'S RUNNING THE BUSINESS
AND WHAT THEY'RE UP TO IF YOU
HAVE ENOUGH CASH AND TIME YOU
CAN GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND
OPEN YOUR BUSINESS TELLS YOU
NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING
AND WHO'S RUNNING IT. WE WE NEED
TO REMEMBER THAT MANY OF THE.
PRACTITIONERS IN CITIES AREN'T
CERTIFIED SO THAT'S STILL AN
ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE
INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO WE HAVE USED THIS AS AN
ORDINANCE AND TO REQUIRE THAT
THEN WE WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM
THAT WE AGREE SO THAT THAT'S.
HAD I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF A
CATCH TWENTY TWO. AND.
THAT THIS COMING AROUND AND I
CUT YOU OFF I'M SORRY THIS
MISTER REINKE I'D I'D. KNOW IT
IN THE END AND THAT'S FINE
BECAUSE YOU KNOW I I THINK YOU
KNOW WHAT AT ONE OF THE HIGHLY
NAY I KNOW YOU KNOW MISTER BATES
MENTIONED AS WELL. I'M THIS
SURVEY THAT WENT OUT YOU KNOW WE
HAVE SELECTED SURVEY LOOK VERY
CLOSEY THE COMMENTS TO GET A
SENSE OF OF WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT
ABOUT YOU KNOW THEIR ACTIONS
WITH CITIES.
I THINK ABOUT THIRTY EIGHT
HUNDRED RESPONDED THERE WHAT
FIFTY THOUSAND ACTIVE LICENSES
SO IT'S WHAT ABOUT SEVEN PERCENT
OR SO ACTUALLY FILL THE SURVEY
BUT I THINK. IT'S STILL PROVIDED
USEFUL INFORMATION AND IF YOU'RE
IF YOU LOOK AT IT I MEAN WHEN IT
COMES TO THEIR INTERACTION WITH
THEIR CITY OR COUNTY COMING
SEVENTY ONE PERCENT THOUGHT IT
WAS A GREAT INTERACTION. FROM
FAIRLY FULFORD EXCELLENT AND
WHICH I THINK IS VERY HIGH I
MEAN TO QUITE HONESTLY IT WAS A
LITTLE SURPRISING GIVEN SOME OF
THE FEEDBACK I'VE HEARD FROM
SUMMER CITIES AND SOME OF OUR.
YOU KNOW MASSAGE THERAPISTS I'M
IN TO GET IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO
THEIR ACTUAL SO THE OTHER
BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY I MEAN
MAY NOT QUITE BE IT IS HIGH.
AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE
FINALLY ON THE ON THE ON THE
FEES AND THE OTHER PIECE YOU
KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR FEES AT A
REGULAR PROP TWENTY SIX IS YOUR
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FEES. YOU
THINK EVERY BUSINESS LICENSE
FEES AND THOSE THAT YOU KNOW ARE
IMPOSED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL ONE
POINT THEIR ACTUAL VOTER
APPROVED IS ESSENTIALLY BUSINESS
TAX. AND THOSE FEES YOU KNOW ARE
ARE YOU KNOW VERY FROM
JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION AS
WELL AND THEY TEND TO BE
REGULATE BY THE SIZE OF YOUR
BUSINESS SO HE TO GROSS
RECEIPTS.
IF YOU FALL UNDER CERTAIN
THRESHOLD IS A FLAT RATE AND
OPERATE ON THAT JURISDICTION'S I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
DIFFERENTIATE THOSE TO THE TWO
SIDES FEES OUR COMMUNITY.
AND AND GIVE IT TO THE. I GUESS
THE QUESTION IS WHEN WE HAVE A
LIST OF BUSINESSES OR
ILLEGAL-OPERATIONS THAT.
THERE WERE NOT MASSAGE
BUSINESSES.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU TRY TO
REGULATE THOSE THROUGH
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THOSE ARE YOU HAVE OTHER WAYS OF
GOING AFTER THOSE BUSINESSES.
TRYING TO SHUT THEM DOWN I MEAN
YOU DON'T ESTABLISH A REQUIRE
BECAUSE A BUSINESS ME ABOUT A
PROBLEM. YOU DON'T DECIDE TO.
REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
IN THEIR.
TO TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE IT
WOULD.
CORRECT.
LINDA.
IBM.
IT IS PARTICULARLY ACT I THINK
IS WORTH NOTING AT MISAKO HIS
POINT.
IS TO MY MY WELL TAKEN IF IF WE
AGREE THAT CERTIFIED THERAPISTS
POSE NO HARM IN FACT SHOULD BE
ENCOURAGED.
YEAH IT SEEMS OBVIOUS THAT THE
APPLICATION THIS UP PROCESS
WHICH CREATES ONEROUS FEES WORKS
AGAINST THE GOOD ACTORS MILLIONS
THAT SUSPENSION THE POINT YOU
WERE MAKING.
AND AGAIN THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE BUT IT BECOMES VERY
RESTRICTIVE.
IF THE ONLY WAY TO GO INTO THIS
BUSINESS IS TO PAY THE THE PROP
TWENTY SIX FEES. A YOUR YOU'RE
SOLVING ONE PROBLEM WHILE.
OBSERVE PUNISHING THE WRONG
PARTIES I WOULD SAY SO THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED SERIOUSLY.
OF THANK YOU SENATOR NEWMAN OF
THEIR.
COMMENTS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE AYE I GUESS YOU KNOW I.
AND I WAS GOING TO MAKE THESE
COMMENTS OR AFTER WE'RE GOING TO
OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. PERIOD
AGAIN.
AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE
EVERYONE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK HAD
AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
BUT I I JUST FEEL COULD CAN
COMPEL THAT IT YOU KNOW AFTER.
NO WE HAVE THE SENSE THAT REVIEW
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND.
.
AND WE HAVE WE HEARD FROM
MULTIPLE MASSAGE THERAPISTS
ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY
WERE. FACING WITH THE CITY'S
OVER THE ISSUES THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT TODAY AND. YOU KNOW AT
THAT TIME I CONSIDERED AUTHORING
SOME LEGISLATION TO UP TO
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM BUT.
BUT I HAD TO FILL IN I HAD SOME
PRODUCTIVE TALKS WITH THE LEAK A
IN MY OFFICE.
AND.
.
IT TOOK TO TRY IN.
AND WORK FOR THAT.
I WAS HOPEFUL THAT THE CITY'S
WOULD KIND OF WE'D FIND SOME
SOLUTIONS TO THAT AND. FRANKLY I
DON'T THINK WE ARE AM I I DON'T
SEE THAT WERE MAKING THE CHANGES
THAT ARE NECESSARY.
AT LEAST FOR A YEAR WITH THE
FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVEN THE.
THREE SEVENTY FOUR EIGHTY THREE
EIGHTY TWO FORTY ONE AND EIGHTY
TWO CITIES THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE THE REACT
RESPONSE TO THE REACTION THAT WE
HAD THAT MANY SCENES AT. THE
PROBLEMS OF THE STATE'S STILL
PERSIST OF WE JUST SAT EXAMPLES
THAT.
THAT I THINK REALLY SHOW THAT
THERE IS SOME. YOU KNOW A.
SCRIPT CERTAINLY DISCRIMINATION
AGAINST MASSAGED AT WHICH WAS IN
THE SIZE THEIR THIS AND AND AND
WE SHOULD HAVE PARITY. WITH THE
CHIROPRACTORS WITH PHYSICAL
THERAPIST OFF WITH OCCUPATIONAL
THERAPIST WITH ACUPUNCTURE TO ME
OTHER HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS THAT
ARE.
PROFESSIONALS IN IN THAT.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE
CONDITIONALLY
FROM ITS HIGH FEES AND.
DUPLICATIVE BACKGROUND CHECKS I
DON'T BELIEVE IT OR NOT REQUIRED
TO BE ANCILLARY TO TO ANOTHER
BUSINESSES WHICH ANOTHER THING
THAT WERE SEEN HAPPENING I MEAN
THESE ARE. SOME EXAMPLES THAT
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT TODAY IS THAT
AND THAT ABOUT A MASSAGE
BUSINESSES.
BUT THEY'RE BEING REGULATED
THROUGH ORDINANCES.
AND OF THE CITY'SSEWER. IF WE
AFTER REQUIRE THAT CERTIFIED
MASSAGE THERAPIST IN THEIR
ESTABLISHMENTS ARE BUSINESSES BE
TREATED.
SIMILAR TO OTHER HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL BUSINESSES THEN
THIS IS AN APPROACH WE MAY HAVE
TO TAKE.
WHY SHOULDN'T WE TREAT OF
MASSAGE THERAPISTS
THE SAME WAY FROM OF?
LEGAL PUSH BACK.
AND HAVE THE STATE.
REQUIRE THAT CITIES.
TREAT THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS THE
SAME AS THEY TREAT OTHER
HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS.
I THINK THAT MAYBE THE ANSWER IN
THAT.
THAT MAYBE THE DIRECTION THAT I
THINK WE HAVE TO GO IN ORDER TO
RESOLVE THIS BECAUSE IT THE RATE
WE'RE GOING.
IT WILL BE MY GRANDDAUGHTER WILL
BE CITY NE A HERE FIFTY YEARS
FROM NOW OF PERHAPS TRYING TO US
SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT THE
PACE WE'RE GOING IT'S NOT
WORKING OUT SO I. THAT MAY BE
THE ANSWER MOVING LOOK AT THAT
AND SEE IF MAYBE LEGISLATION.
WOULD WORK AND.
COULD TO RESOLVE THAT THAT
ISSUE SO I DO WANT TO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR FOR BEING HERE AND
THANK FOR YOU THE TIME AND WE
WILL OPEN THIS TO. TO PUBLIC
COMMENT NOW TO TO RESOLVE UP A
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THE
REST OF THE THE HEARING TO
PLEASE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
SOME COMMENTS COME UP TO THE
MICROPHONE. AND WILL CONTINUE
WITH OUR TWO MINUTE.
POLICY IF THAT'S OKAY.
THANK YOU SENATOR HILCO HAVE
THEIR SAID I'M DYING TO CANCEL
LISTS FROM. NEWPORT BEACH I'M
SORRY I HAVE A VERY BAD VOICE
RIGHT NOW.
I WAS IN THE E. R. UNTIL FOUR
THIRTY THIS MORNING.
BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW.
ALL OF MY STORY IN THIS
PROFESSION IS A FORTY YEAR
TRACK.
I BEGAN AS THE MEDICAL MASSAGE
THERAPIST.
IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. IN A
HOSPITAL PT REHAB CENTER.
AT THE AGE OF TWENTY TWO.
IN NINETEEN NINETY I MOVED.
TO HAWAII.
SO THAT I CAN BECOME A STATE
LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPIST AND
DO WHAT I DO.
I HAVE HELD LICENSURE.
STATE LICENSURE
AND APPROVED BY BOARD OF HEALTH
OR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
ENTITIES.
IN BOTH Y. E. N. AGAIN HAWAII
WASHINGTON STATE AND TEXAS.
I FEEL IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
BUT THE STATE WHERE I BEGAN THIS
WORK.
AND ONCE AGAIN RESIDE.
AND WORK.
HAS YET TO APPROVE STATE
LICENSURE BUT THEN I UNDERSTAND
THAT THAT IS COMPLICATED.
WHEN I CAME BACK TO CALIFORNIA
IN TWO THOUSAND FIVE.
I SET TO WORK IN NEWPORT BEACH
BECAUSE I HAD SO FOLLOWING
THROUGH WITH WHAT
WAS REQUIRED AT THAT TIME.
I BECAME PERMITTED.
WITH A PERMIT.
AND CITY TEST.
TO COME.
SO THAT I COULD WORK IN NEWPORT
BEACH.
OF.
I'M CURRENTLY AN INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR AT A PRIVATE HEALTH
CLUB.
THAT IS MY WORK.
THESE ARE MET IT'S A MEMBER
OWNED CLUB.
SO I CANNOT SEE PEOPLE. THERE
BETTER NOT I CANNOT SEE PEOPLE
THERE THAT ARE NOT MEMBERS
OKAY.
SO BECAUSE OF THIS BY SHARON
OFFICE WITH TWO OTHER OTHER
COLLEAGUES.
AND THIS PARTICULAR OFFICES DO
FOR DEMOLITION.
AT THE END OF MAY.
SO TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
WE'RE GONNA DO. WELL WE HAVE TO
GO THROUGH THE CONTINUAL USE
LAND USE.
THE PERMIT PROCESS AND FOR ME.
TWO AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
START.
AGAIN I'M.
WITH THIS PROCESS IS COST
PROHIBITIVE.
FOR.
FIVE GRAND MAYBE EVEN MORE.
OF THIS MEANS LOSS OF CLIENTELE
THEY'LL FOLLOW YOU IF YOU HAVE A
GOOD PLACE BUT IF THEY HAVE TO
TRAVEL TOO FAR.
THEY MAY NOT GO.
.
SO HAVE AT THIS RATE OF.
THIS IS WHAT I'M DEALING WITH
ALTHOUGH I AM LOOKING FOR OTHER
OPTIONS.
A IT SO WE ARE.
THERE WOULD WE DO HAVE THESE
CHALLENGES.
AND THE.
THE FORTY YEARS I'M GONNA KEEP
WORKING UNTIL I DIE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR RAIN
HERE TODAY HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY
FEEL BETTER I THINK GETTING AWAY
FROM THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
ALLERGIES WILL DO MEET WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
VERY MUCH YOU KNOW I HAVE A
PLANE TO CATCH AREN'T VERY GOOD
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE
YES MA'AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON THAT AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN HILL AND NON
COMMITTEE FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE IN
SACRAMENTO.
MY NAME IS CHRISTINE DO AND I AM
A CERTIFIED CA MTC MASSAGE
THERAPIST FROM SAN FRANCISCO.
I'M A GRADUATE OF THE NATIONAL
BUDGET HOLISTIC INSTITUTES
FOURTEEN HUNDRED OF ELEVEN
HUNDRED FORTY OUR BASIC AND
ADVANCED OR MUSCULAR PROGRAM.
AND HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN MILD US
RELEASE.
AND OF OVER TWO THOUSAND HOURS
OF TRAINING.
.
I'M ALSO BOARD CERTIFIED IN
SOMETHING CALLED STRUCTURAL
INTEGRATION PERHAPS YOU'VE ALSO
HEARD OF IT AS RAFI.
NUMBER WE ARE CURRENTLY
RECOGNIZED IN ELEVEN STATES AS A
SEPARATE PROFESSION.
AND WITH OUR OWN PSYCHOMETRIC
TESTING CODE OF ETHICS AND ARE
EXEMPT FROM SUCH REGULATION.
HERE INCOME CALIFORNIA.
AS TONY IF TONY UNCONFIRMED THE
AVERAGE MASSAGE THERAPIST MAKES
TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A
YEAR WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
TWENTY ARE THE WEAKEST
CONSIDERED FULL TIME AND OUR
BODIES LAST ABOUT TWENTY OUT
TWENTY YEARS ON AVERAGE.
AFTER SIX YEARS IN SPORTS
MEDICINE SPECIALIZING IN INJURY
AND READ AND POST OPERATIVE
REHABILITATION. WORKING THIRTY
FIVE HOURS A WEEK TO BE ABLE TO
SURVIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO.
I WAS BURNING OUT AND I DID AND
MY ONLY OPTION WAS TO GO INTO
PRIVATE PRACTICE.
SO WITH MY BACKGROUND I FIGURED.
I WOULD GO INTO A MEDICAL
BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I
DO I DO MEDICAL WORK.
AND.
I WAS SURE THAT THE PREVIOUS
TENANT WAS A MASSAGE THERAPIST.
AND THE AMENDMENT WAS YOU THIS
IS FIFTH PART TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN.
ADAM AND I WAS SURE IT BY THEM
SUPERVISOR TANKS OFFICE THAT. I
WOULD BE PROTECTED A SOLE
PRACTITIONER.
AND I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING
AND GET A PERMIT.
I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WHICH
DID INCLUDE.
FINGERPRINTING AGAIN WITH THE
POLICE THE LOCAL POLICE EVEN
THOUGH I DIDN'T THAT HAD BEEN
DONE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH
MY CA EMPTY SEEKING
CERTIFICATION.
AND.
DID THE ZONING FIRE ALL OF THAT
COSTING ABOUT FIFTEEN HUNDRED
DOLLARS IN FEES WHICH IS COST
PROHIBITIVE. PERSONA OR HE MAKES
TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN.
THEY CAME BACK TO ME THAT THE
BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE
ANTIQUATED VIEWS OF MASSAGE
THERAPY BUT NOT ZONED FOR
MASSAGE.
I HAD ALREADY SIGNED MY LEASE.
AND I TALKED TO. I TALKED TO
HEALTH ZONING AND I WAS.
AND THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE AND
I WAS VIDAK I WAS RECOMMENDED.
TO GET THE BUILDING REZONED AND
THAT THEY WOULD TALK TO AARON
PESKIN OFFICE.
HOME.
TO HELP WITH THAT.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAID THAT
THEY WOULD STAY THEIR JUDGMENT.
UNTIL THEY HEARD BACK FROM THEM
AND I NEVER HEARD BACK FROM
EITHER SO I'VE BEEN.
JUST DOING MY WORK FOR THE LAST
THREE YEARS.
IN FEBRUARY I HAD AG RECEIVED AN
EMAIL FROM.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ASKING
FOR MY PERMIT
WHICH I DID NOT HAVE.
AND THE CAME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR
AND.
IT USUALLY MADE ME FEEL LIKE A
CRIMINAL.
HOME.
I HAVE CLIENTS THAT SUFFER FROM
STROKES CAR ACCIDENTS.
I'M PRIEST IMPOSED OPERATE OF
OPERATIONS.
OTHER DISABLED FOR WHOM.
THEY ARE DISABLED AND FOR WHOM
EIGHTY COMPLIANCE IS ESSENTIAL.
AND SO I'VE BEEN LOOKING. I
MOVED MY OFFICE LAST WEEK OR TWO
WEEKS AGO. AND HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY STRESSFUL SITUATION.
MY OPTIONS ARE VERY LIMITED I'VE
LOOKED AT OTHER HEALTH.
THEN MEDICAL BUILDINGS.
AND.
WE ARE THE TWO ARE NOT SHOWN
FROM A SIZE.
ON.
SO.
AS AN ASIAN WOMAN I UNDERSTAND.
THE IMPORTANCE OF AND CHAMPION
THE EFFORTS
AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING THE
ORIENTAL MASSEUSE STEREOTYPE IS
VERY REAL TO ME.
BUT I AM.
BUT I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG
I'M A SOLE PRACTITIONER.
AND I'M VERY BUSY.
AND IF I DO WANT TO GROW MY
PRACTICE AND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE A
TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT IS.
HONESTLY MY OPINION RIDICULOUS
AND VERY COST PROHIBITIVE.
IT IS MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT.
FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO
ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING
AND DRIVING US UNDERGROUND THANK
YOU VERY MUCH BUT I THINK.
WE GOT THE POINT ISN'T GOT THE
POINT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
LETTING HERE AND OF THE BEST TO
YOU.
RENDON.
A MY NAME IS KEPT ON THE HONOR
I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF
PEPSI AT LIFE ENERGY INSTITUTES
WHERE MASSAGE SCHOOL LOCATED IN
CULVER CITY.
I'M ALSO AN INSTRUCTOR AND.
CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY
COUNCIL.
SUCH THEY'RE PISSED.
OF ABOUT FOURTEEN YEARS NOW.
LOT I WANTED TO FACE CAN MEAN
THE THEME TO THE FOR THEIR
EFFORTS TO ESTABLISH.
STATEWIDE STANDARDIZED ATION IN
COMPLIANCE.
WE'VE COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE
OLD DAYS OF CITY BY CITY
LICENSING HOW WE DO NOT WANT TO
RETURN TO THAT.
THAT BEING SAID ARM I'M VERY
AWARE THAT CAN TAKE THE MAIN
FOCUS.
IS ON THE PROTECTION OF THE
CONSUMER.
.
IT'S APPARENT THAT THERE'S ALSO
A LACK OF FOCUS BY THE CA MDC.
FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE
MASSAGE THERAPISTS.
AND FOR THE IF THE CALL AND
SUSTAINABLE GROWTH OF THE
INDUSTRY.
.
AB ONE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN DENIED
WE HEAR THAT TODAY. A MANY OF
THOSE SCHOOLS.
WERE CLOSE COLLEAGUES OF OURS.
OUR SISTER SCHOOL IN SAN DIEGO
WAS ONE WE WERE VERY SURPRISED
TO SEE THAT GUY A GO AWAY. ON
IT'S BEEN AN INDUSTRY FOR MANY
MANY YEARS.
.
LONGER THAN WE HAVE WHICH IS
GOING ON THIRTY FIVE YEARS.
.
ALSO IN OUTSIDE OF TOWN WHICH
WAS IN THE WITH SIDE OF LOS
ANGELES WHICH IS ONE THE MOST
THRIVING COMMUNITIES IN LA.
THE SHIATSU SCHOOL CALIFORNIA
HAS GONE AWAY.
ALONG WITH ONE OF THE OTHER
SCHOOLS WITH THE AWNING LA
SURVIVING SCHOOL IN THE AREA.
.
WELL WE'VE HAD BOTH POSITIVE AND
NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES THAT
DEALING WITH THE STADIUM TO SEE
I DID ONE I.
ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT
COME UP WITH US IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS. SINCE THE
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HAVE
CHANGED.
.
WE GET REGULAR.
.
COMPLAINTS ROUTE STUDENTS WHO
SAY THEY TRY TO CONTACT THE CA
TO SEE. ANIMATE WITH.
DISRESPECT ON THE LINE.
SHORT RESPONSES.
BUT THEY LOSE TRANSCRIPTS.
IN BLAKE'S RESULTS
A LONG TURNAROUND TIMES ON
LICENSING.
.
THEY SEEM OVERLY READY TO PITCH
THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE WE HAVE A
SITUATION BECAUSE WE ARE A
CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS. FOR
PREVIOUSLY CLOSE SCHOOL. ON
DURING THE TRANSITION PERIOD
WHERE WE TOOK ON THOSE STUDENTS
WE TOOK OVER THEIR INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY. UN TEND TO GOOD BYES
JUST SAYS IN ORDER TO SECURE
THESE STUDENTS.
PREVIOUS EDUCATION WITH THIS OLD
SCHOOL THAT THEY SHOULD
IMMEDIATELY STOP THE REPLICATION
PRICES. MISS WAS IN JULY OF TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN.
OF THE SCHOOL HAD BEEN THROUGH
OUR.
PROGRAMS THEY KNOW OUR PROGRAMS
INTIMATELY THEY KNEW THAT OUR
PROGRAM WAS EIGHTEEN MONTHS IN
LENGTH.
A THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS
ONE YEAR WHICH MEANT THAT
ADVISING THESE STUDENTS TO STOP
THEIR APPLICATIONS AT THAT TIME.
MEANT THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE
REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT YEAR
PERIOD. THE WIN THAT YEAR CAME
UP.
BY PAGE THE STUDENTS
APPLICATIONS.
WHEN CONTACTING AS THE I AM TO
SEE AND ASKING THEM WHY WOULD
YOU RECOMMEND US SOMETHING IF
THERE'S NO RECOURSE FOR THE
STUDENTS.
THEY SAID THAT THAT WITH WHAT
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
STUDENTS LOST THEIR LICENSES.
A LOT THEIR APPLICATIONS
LIABILITIES THAT I HAD TO STOP
THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE REALLY
HAD TO PAY THE FEES ALL OVER
AGAIN.
AND IS NO RECOURSE FOR US
THERE'S NO RECOURSE FOR THE
STUDENTS
AND WE ENDED UP HAVING TO PAY
FOR THE STUDENTS LICENSE OF.
APPLICATIONS ELECTRIC AND.
.
WE STRUGGLED TO BE HEARD. O. WE
WANT TO BE HEARD WE WANT TO WORK
WITH THEM WE WANT TO HAVE MORE
OF A DIALOGUE.
I JUST DISCOVERED THIS MORNING
THAT I'M NOW ON THE STADIUM TO
SEE.
SCHOOL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO
I'M LOOKING FOR TO HAVING MORE
OF A VOICE IN THAT REGARD. BUT
WE'VE NOT HAD LITTLE LUCK
RECENTLY.
WE ALSO HAVE JUST OUT TO.
.
THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL THAT WE ARE
CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS FOR.
THEY WERE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED
BY THE BP.
A THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AN
APPROVAL PROCESS THAT APPEAL
PRICES FROM TWO THOUSAND LIMON
TO TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN. ON
DURING THAT TIME FRAME THEY WERE
LOOKING THAT WAY DURING ALL THE
DUE DILIGENCE TO MEET THE
REQUIREMENTS BECOME TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN THEY DECIDE TO SELL
THEIR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TO
US.
AT THAT TIME WE TOOK OVER AND WE
WERE APPROVED AS A CANTIK
APPROVED SCHOOL.
DURING THAT TIME FRAME CANTIK
WERE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF
APPROVING SCHOOLS.
BENNO TELLING US THAT THE
EDUCATION OF THESE HUNDREDS OF
STUDENTS WHO WERE IN THIS.
PENDING STATUS.
WILL NOW LOSE ALL OF THEIR
EDUCATION WHO HAVE HUNDREDS OF
STUDENTS THAT WE NOW HAVE TO
TELL THEY NO LONGER HAVE AN
EDUCATION DESPITE THE BPP
TELLING THE SCHOOL THE TIME THAT
THEY WORK CONTINUALLY APPROVED
DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
WE HAVE NO RECOURSE.
THERE WAS NO CAN TAKE
APPROVING SCHOOLS DURING THAT
TIME PERIOD. BENNO RULING
RETROACTIVELY.
EVERITT HUNDRED WE'VE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO
ABOUT THAT.
SO I AM KIND OF COOL INTO
INTERESTING.
PLACES WHERE I ONE TO LOOK AFTER
MY STUDENTS WERE DOING A DUE
DILIGENCE TO FOLLOW THE RULES
AND REGULATIONS IN THE POLICY
CHANGES.
BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO
GO FROM HERE SURE I IN I
UNDERSTAND PERHAPS YOU COULD
SHARE WITH US SOME CONTACT
INFORMATION AND WE COULD BE IN
TOUCH TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY
THAT WE CAN THAT WOULD BE REALLY
WONDERFUL. NEW THAT WE CAN SOLVE
THAT PROBLEM TELL EVERYONE FOR
YOUR STUDENTS THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH HARDER FOR BEING
HERE TODAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
VETERANS THE CITY WHERE I LIVE
IN PETALUMA BUT I ALSO WORK
THERE AS WELL AS SAM FELL AND
SAN FRANCISCO.
AND I WANNA FAITH THANK YOU FOR
HAVING THIS OCCASION TO SPEAK
ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF
REGULATION AS WELL AS SINFUL AS
WELL AS SOME SOLUTIONS.
THEY PRETTY MUCH HEARD TODAY
THAT MORATORIUM'S TO DOUBLE
REGULATION TO MULTIPLE
FINGERPRINTING.
OVER. REACHING LAND USE
MEASURES.
CREATE A COST BARRIER TO.
A PROFESSION THAT'S MOSTLY
FEMALE TRYING TO SET UP THEIR
OWN SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO A FEW OF THE.
SOLUTIONS ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE
USE IN PETALUMA AIDS.
YOUR FINGER PRINTED WITH CA MTC.
THEY'VE GOT YOUR RECORDS EVERY
YEAR YOU GO EN TO RENEW YOUR
BUSINESS LICENSE AND YOU SHOW
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT YOUR
RECORD STILL CLEAR.
THERE'S NO CHARGE IT'S NOT A BIG
EXPENSIVE THING.
ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE
IT'S COLLABORATIVE.
CITY OFFICES WORKING TOGETHER
POLICE.
BUSINESS.
TAX.
SIMPLE SOLUTION WE DON'T NEED TO
HAVE.
THREE FIVE TIMES THAT WE GET
FINGERPRINTED INDIA G.
BACKGROUND CHECKS.
ALONG MISSING LINES
COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MASSAGE
THERAPISTS CITY STAFF POLICE AND
CMT SEE SEEMS TO CREATE.
THE BEST REGULATION.
FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS A
MASSAGE PROVIDERS.
THIS IS HAPPENED IN SAN RAFAEL.
AND WE HAVE A VERY WORKABLE
ORDINANCE.
FAMILY TELL WHEN EVERYBODY CAN
COME TOGETHER YOU'RE HEARING THE
POLICE CHIEFS SAY. THAT'S WHEN
IT WORKS.
THAT'S PRETTY PROVIDING THAT.
ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYONE IS
WORKING TOGETHER.
I THINK I'M THAT ARE REVOKED
ABLE ESTABLISH PERMITS UP'S ARE
NOT HELPFUL. THERE TOO MUCH OF A
BARRIER TO GET INTO THE
PROFESSION YOU HAVE TO WAIT SIX
MONTHS TO A YEAR TO ACTUALLY NOW
IF YOU'RE APPROVED. IT'S
FINANCIALLY.
OF A ROADBLOCK THAT MOST MASSAGE
THERAPIST WHO USUALLY SANTA
FILTER FIVE TO TEN YEARS. CANNOT
OVERCOME.
THE RIVER BOTH THE ROBUST
ENFORCEMENT.
A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER
THE CRASH OF TWO THOUSAND AND
SEVEN.
WITH.
CITIES DID NOT HAVE THE
FINANCIAL RESOURCES.
TO MEET THE PROBLEMS OF ILLICIT
BUSINESS THAT IS AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND PROSTITUTION.
AND WE HEAR THAT THAT'S OFTEN.
THE BIG PROBLEM FOR OUR
INDUSTRY.
WELL NOW.
WHEN WE CAN HAVE THE FUNDS
THOUGH THAT.
LAW ENFORCEMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT
CAN COLLABORATE AND SHUT DOWN
THE BUSINESSES.
THAT ARE PROVIDING.
THOSE SERVICES.
WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL.
PROFESSION WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO
DO HAVE CANCER WHO ARE HOSPICE
WHOHAD MULTIPLE OF HEALTH AND
INJURIES CAN AND WANT TO HAVE
HELP MONMOUTH CAN BE ADDRESSED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DEFINITE MA'AM HIGH.
MY NAME IS LAURA EMBLETON I'M
THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS THERE DIRECTOR FOR
ASSOCIATED BODY WORK AND MASSAGE
PROFESSIONALS AND MORTAR.
WE WOULD SAY WE'RE THE LARGEST
ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY THAT
REPRESENTS STUDENTS SCHOOLS AND
MEMBERS WE HAVE OVER ELEVEN
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED MEMBERS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
WE DO NOT HAVE A STATE CHAPTER
SO I WORK MOSTLY WITH OUR
MEMBERS TO CONTACT ME. AND WE
FOR YOU A LOT OF THEIR LETTERS
OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST
MONTH.
.
THAT CAME AND SO SINCE SOME OF
THE BIG ISSUES I HAD A WHOLE
SPEECH WRITTEN OUT AND THEN THE.
BEING A READ READ READ ON HERE.
BUT.
.
WE HAVE LONG SUPPORTED OF YOU
TOWARD STATE LICENSURE. IN
CALIFORNIA AND THE SITUATION
THAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW SEEMS TO
BE LIKE WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS
MANDATORY VOLUNTARY
CERTIFICATION IN THE CITIES.
THAT REQUIRED CA MTC LICENSURE
WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A
VOLUNTARY STATE.
AND SO THAT CREATES PROBLEMS
OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THIS LOCAL
ORDINANCES ARE THE PEOPLE.
BECAUSE IT'S A VOLUNTARY STATE
THESE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THESE
COMMUNITIES LIKE CALISTOGA OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE
THERE'S NOT A REQUIRED STUDENTS
CITY ORDINANCE YET BUT ONE MIGHT
COMMAND THAT REQUIRE CA MTC
CERTIFICATION. AND THAT WHEN
THOSE THINGS HAPPEN WE NEED TO
ALLOW FOR GRANDFATHERING FOR THE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PRACTICING
WITHOUT CERTIFICATION OVER THE
LAST TWENTY YEARS.
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW CALIFORNIA IS
IT'S A VOLUNTARY CERTIFICATION
STATE YOU CAN'T COME IN A
REQUIRE IMMEDIATELY THAT
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO HAVE
CERTIFICATION.
WITH REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL
APPROVAL PROCESS.
VERY HAVE.
AS A RULE THAT SAYS WITHIN A
HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS OF AN
APPLICATION BEING DEEMED
COMPLETE AS WHEN THEY HAVE NEVER
RESPONSE. BUT THE DEEMED
COMPLETE IS A MOVING TARGET AND
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED
AT BECAUSE THEY.
THE YOU KNOW IT'S NEVER IT THEY
CAN'T DECIDE WHEN IT'S DEEMED
COMPLETE AND SO WHAT'S. THINGS
MAY GO ON FOR. MONTHS WHEN YOU
FOR APPLY FOR CA NTC
CERTIFICATION SCHOOLS HAVE TO
INITIAL IT QUESTION SIXTY ONE
THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE
PROCESS COULD TAKE THREE MONTHS
TO A COUPLE YEARS QUOTE UNQUOTE.
.
ALSO WITH REGARDS TO.
EDUCATION I WISH THAT THERE WAS
A BETTER COMMUNICATION.
THE. THING THAT CAME OUT THAT
SAID THEY'RE TRYING TO GET
COMMUNICATION OUT WITHIN TWO TO
THREE WEEKS THE LAST MEETING WAS
FOR A VERY TWENTY SECOND BE MADE
CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL.
A RULES REQUIRING WET
SINATURES INSTEAD A STAMPED ON
TRANSCRIPTS
THEY DIDN'T GET THE NOTIFICATION
OF THAT OUT TO THE SCHOOLS UNTIL
APRIL TENTH AT ONE THIRTY IN THE
MORNING WHICH IS WAY PAST TWO TO
THREE WEEKS AND PEOPLE KEPT
CONTACTING THEM GOING WHERE'S.
THIS INFORMATION AND THEN I
TALKED TO SOME SCHOOL HONOR IN
THERE LIKE I NEVER HEARD OF THIS
AND SO THERE'S THE COMMUNICATION
IS LACKING THERE.
AT THE LAST MEETING ON FEBRUARY
TWENTY SECOND.
CMT SEE DECIDED THAT THE STATUTE
SAYS THAT THEY CANNOT TAKE
FOREIGN EDUCATION I THINK THE US
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND
THEIR RULES ON WHO CAN ACCEPT
FOREIGN EDUCATION CLEARLY SAYS
THAT STATES. WHO HAVE BOARDS
THAT REGULATE PROFESSIONS ARE?
CAPABLE OF DETERMINING FOREIGN
APPLICATIONS SO I THINK A
STATUTE OR THEY'RE SAYING NEEDS
TO BE SOME KIND OF STATUTORY
CHANGE IN THERE TO HELP THOSE.
PEOPLE LETTER BY CANADA REQUIRES
A FOUR YEAR DEGREE TO GET AS.
MASSAGE THERAPY DEGREE.
SO EVERY THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
ISSUES I WROTE A LENGTHY LETTER
AND ALL THAT INFORMATION'S AND
THERE ARE SOME TO TIME TO STOP
TULISA SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND
MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITH THE
AT. THE COUNCIL. FOR SHADE
ATTORNEY IF YOU SO MUCH SIX
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FEATURE.
IN HERE.
SO MAY I JUST SEE IT THROW HAS A
WHO ELSE IS PLANNING TO SPEAK.
WE'VE BEEN VERY.
BECAUSE OF THE LONG DAY AND
NIGHT PEOPLE HAVING TO BE
PATIENT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SAY WHATEVER THEY LIKE TO SAY
TODAY BECAUSE OF THAT. CHALLENGE
SO I JUST WANT TO PLAN THE
TIMING SO IS ANYONE ELSE AFTER
THE TWO SPEAKERS WE HAVE. VERY
TO THANK YOU.
OKAY THANK YOU FOR THE TIME
TODAY MY NAME IS SONYA WAY AND
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS FOR THE FEDERATION OF
STATE MASSAGE THEIR KEYBOARDS.
YOU'VE HEARD OF OUR EXAMS TALKED
ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY
THE MASSAGE AND BODYWORK
LICENSING EXAM IS AYE
ADMINISTERED AND I'VE MAINTAINED
BY THE FEDERATION ON BEHALF OF
STATE REGULATORY BOARDS AND
AGENCIES. I'M A WE ARE HAPPY TO
WORK WITH THE MTC TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS ARE BROUGHT UP EARLIER
TODAY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN
BE OF ASSISTANCE SO JUST A QUICK
BLOG THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT
NIKITA THAT HELP.
BE NICE THANK YOU.
HI GOOD EVENING HELLO THANK YOU
FOR LETTING US HAVE THIS.
TALK TODAY LANGUAGE. I AM
SELENA LEE I AM THE OWNER
DIRECTOR OF MCCANN ANYBODY
THERAPY CENTER SCHOOL IN OAKLAND
AND ALSO THE.
INDEPENDENT MASSAGE SCHOOL
ASSOCIATION A SPOKESPERSON WE
REPRESENT ABOUT TEN APPROVED
SCHOOLS THROUGH SANTEE CA RIGHT
NOW WE HAVE HAD MORE MEMBERS IN
THE PAST THAT A LOT OF HAD TO
CLOSE. SOME OF.
FOR OTHER REASONS.
SO I HEAR A LOT FROM A LOT OF
SCHOOL OWNERS ABOUT ALL THE
ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
TODAY. AND I'M HERE JUST TO TELL
YOU MY STORY ABOUT. TRYING TO
GET RE APPROVED.
THROUGH CFTC. WE WERE SUPPOSED
TO HAVE.
LAST YEAR IT WAS TO BE ONLINE
PROCESS THAT WAS GOING TO BE
EASIER AND IT WAS GOING TO BE
GREAT. ON THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
.
IT EVENTUALLY GOT.
A THE APPLICATION WAS MADE
AVAILABLE ON DECEMBER
THIRTEENTH.
MINDED WAS DUE DECEMBER
THIRTIETH I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT
WAS SUFFICIENT TIME FOR ME TO
TURN IT AROUND EVEN THOUGH. SOME
PEOPLE SAY THEY CAN DO IT IN A
WEEK OR SO ABOUT SE SOME SCOOLS
CAN DO IT IN A WEEK WE DID OT
HAVE THE RESOURCES TO TURN IT
AROUND THAT FAST.
I ASKED FOR A THIRTY DAY
EXTENSION.
I DON'T I WAS TOLD THAT MY PHONE
CONCERN WAS NOT LEGITIMATE AND
THAT.
.
I.
JUST TURN IT IN WHEN I CAN I GOT
IT IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY
I HAVE HAD RESPONSE AND BACK AND
FORTH WITH THE.
SCHOOLS DEPARTMENT THE VISION
AND.
I HAVE NOT HAD A SITE VISIT AND
I DO NOT KNOW IF I'LL BE RE
APPROVED AS OF. JUNE THIRTIETH I
HAVE EMPLOYEES I HAVE STUDENTS I
HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE DEPENDING
ON THAT AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE
DECISIONS AS A BUSINESS OWNER.
AND AND A LOT OF OTHER SCHOOLS
IN THAT SAME POSITION I DON'T
BELIEVE ANY SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN
APPROVED AT THE SUMMARY
APPROVED.
AT THIS POINT.
SO AND THERE'S NO TIMELINE FOR
US TO KNOW. WHAT TO DO IN THE
MEANTIME?
THANK YOU FOR HERE THANK YOU AND
OF IF YOU JUST KEEP US ABREAST
OF WHAT'S.
TRANSPIRING THE TIME FRAME THIS
THAT THE COMMITTEE KNOW WHERE
WITH THE STATUS IS ON AN ONGOING
BASIS AND SO WE CAN.
MAKE SURE THAT WE.
NO IT'S THE.
WITH.
WHERE WHERE YOU ARE IN THE
PROCESS I GUESS IN HER
APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO? HEAR
IT.
BUT AS TO HIS SENATOR NEWMAN
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME
CLOSING COMMENTS.
YEAH IF YOU BUY IN THE IRAQI AYE
AYE I WANT TO. THANK EVERYBODY
APOLOGIZE WE HAD SESSION IN THE
MIDST OF THIS.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR
PATIENCE THESE THESE COMMITTEE
HEARINGS. EVEN THE INFORMATION
WAS VERY USEFUL FOR US AS WE
THINK ABOUT THE REGULATORY
STRUCTURES THAT APPLY TO ALL OF
CALIFORNIA'S BUSINESS. YEAH SO
YOUR TESTIMONY THAT WAS ACTUALLY
VERY HELPFUL TO ME IN THE REST
THE COMMISSION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR NEWMAN AN
EVENT TO THANK THE PANELISTS WHO
ARE HERE AND THOSE PARTICIPANTS
IT REALLY.
BREAK IT WAS KIND OF EYE
OPENING IN A LOT OF RESPECTS AND
AND REALLY SHOWED US.
EXACTLY WHERE THE INDUSTRY IS
AND PERHAPS WHERE IT SHOULD BE
AND WHERE WE CAN THAT CAN MOVE
IN THE FUTURE SO THAT'S A VERY
HELPFUL AND THE. IN AND I THINK
WE WE LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THE
THE SCHOOLS TODAY A LITTLE MORE
IN THAT PROCESS AS IT'S MOVING
AND OUT WE WANT TO LOOK UP.
CLOSER AT THAT TO TO MAKE SURE
THAT.
THAT EVERYONE IS BEING. TREATED
IN A IN A WAY THAT CAN CAN MOVE
THE PROCESS IF THERE ARE
CHALLENGES THAT THE CNPC HAS AND
IN TERMS OF. RESOURCES OUR
ABILITY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED AS
WELL BECAUSE WE WANT THE SYSTEM
TO WORK IS SEAMLESSLY AS
POSSIBLE. AND PROVIDE THAT THE
THE OVERSIGHT AS POSSIBLE TO BE
A RESPONSIBLE PROFESSIONAL
INDUSTRY WITH WHICH IT IS IN
THAT AND WE APPRECIATE THAT SO.
A WITH THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THE ALL OF THE THE
DOES INVOLVE THE STAKEHOLDERS
WHO ARE HERE TODAY TO. TO MOVE
FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT
THINGS WORKING RIGHT HUESO THIS
HEARING IS ADJOURNED THANK YOU
AGAIN