GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO
THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
HERE IN THE STE CALIFORNIA STATE
SENATE.
WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH
OUR BILLS TODAY.
.
WE HAVE ONE BILL ON CONSENT I
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S
INFORMATION.
OUR ITEM NUMBER SIX S. B. THIRTY
THIRTY EIGHT IS ON CONSENT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO START HERE
WITH US IN.
A IN THE QUARTER.
THE BILL ORDER.
AND LEAD US NOT HERE SO THE NEXT
BILL IS AND NEWMAN.
OKAY.
AND UP.
JUST SO BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR
PRESENTATION JUST WANTED US.
VERIFY THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS I AM
MISTER.
THAT WE DO ACCEPT THOSE
AMENDMENTS AND WITH SOME DETAILS
AND LEFT TO WORK OUT BUT THIS
YEAR THE MINISTER FOR.
OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
MISS SHARE MEMORIES.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY WILL ELIMINATE
THE COSTLY DELAYS AN ONEROUS
FEES IN APPLYING FOR CALIFORNIA
DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR NON
RESIDENT ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY.
AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO WISH TO
EARN ADDITIONAL INCOME AS WRITE
YOUR DRIVER'S BY ALLOWING FOR
THE USE OF A VALID OUT OF STATE.
DRIVER'S LICENSE
AS A RESULT OF THEIR SERVICE
MILITARY FAMILIES TEND TO RELATE
RELOCATE EVERY TWO THREE YEARS.
NAY THEY TEND TO MOVE ON AVERAGE
TEN TIMES MORE OFTEN THAN
CIVILIAN FAMILIES. AND WITH
LITTLE TO NO CONTROL OVER WHERE
THEY WILL GO NEXT FOR AMERICA'S
SERVICE MEMBERS AND THEIR
FAMILIES THE INITIAL MONTHS
FOLLOWING RELOCATION CAN OFTEN
PROVE THE MOST FINANCIALLY
CHALLENGING TIMES IN THEIR LIVES
AS THEY FACE INTENSE PRESSURE.
TO COVER THE COST OF GETTING
SUBSTANTIAL DEPOSITS FOR RENTAL
HOUSING PURCHASING NECESSARY
HOUSEHOLD FURNISHINGS MAKING
OFTEN COSTLY DAYCARE
ARRANGEMENTS. PAYING FOR SCHOOL
CLOTHES TEXTBOOKS IN SPORTS
LEAGUES AND SO ON.
AT ANY GIVEN TIME CALIFORNIA IS
HOME TO APPROXIMATELY ONE
HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND ACTIVE
DUTY MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS.
AS WELL AS THOUSANDS MORE OF
THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS
SERVICE MEMBERS RELOCATING TO
CALIFORNIA IN PARTICULAR FACE
EVEN GREATER FINANCIAL BURDENS.
DUE TO THE IMPACT OF THE STATE'S
CURRENT HOUSING CRISIS AS WELL
AS THE GENERALLY HIGHER COST OF
LIVING HERE IN THE GOLDEN STATE.
UPON RELOCATION CALIFORNIA THE
OPPORTUNITY DINNER EARN EXTRA
SPENDING MONEY DRIVING FOR A
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
FOURTEEN SEASONS REFER REFER TO
THEM HERE. SUCH AS LIFT YOUR
UBER WHICH SEEM TO BE AN IDEAL
OPTION FOR MILITARY MEMBERS
THEIR SPOUSES AND OTHER WORKING
AGE FAMILY MEMBERS UNFORTUNATELY
HOWEVER ON THE BASIS OF CURRENT
P. YOU SEE REGULATIONS. IN ORDER
FOR A PERSON TO LEGALLY DRIVE
FOR TNC IN CALIFORNIA HERE SHE
MUST POSSESS A VALID CALIFORNIA
DRIVER'S LICENSE
BECAUSE OF THE TIME AND EFFORT
SECURING ONE ENTAILS. THIS
REQUIREMENT EFFECTIVELY PRECLUDE
ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND THEIR
FAMILIES FROM AVAILING
THEMSELVES OF THE OPTION OF
AUGMENTING THEIR INCOME TO WRITE
YOUR DRIVING DURING THOSE FIRST
CRITICAL. AND HIGHLY STRESSFUL
MONTHS OF THE RELOCATION TO
CALIFORNIA. IT'S WORTH NOTING
THAT CALIFORNIA ALREADY EXTENDS
RECOGNITION OF THE SERVICE
MEMBERS HOME STATE DRIVER'S
LICENSE OUT OF APPROPRIATE
DEFERENCE. TO THEIR SACRIFICE
AND SERVICE ON BEHALF OF OUR
NATION THAT SAME LEVEL OF
RESPECT SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO
THOSE WHO WISH TO DRIVE FREE TNC.
AT THE CURRENT TIME FORTY FIVE
STATES OTHER THAN CALIFORNIA
ALLOW ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY
MEMBERS AND THEIR DEPENDENTS TO
DRIVE FOR TNC IS WITH AN OUT OF
STATE DRIVER'S LICENSE
CALIFORNIA. SHOULD DO THE SAME
THIS BILL HAS RECEIVED NO
OPPOSITION IN IS SUPPORTED BY
TNC SUCH AS LIFTING OVER THE
CALIFORNIA SECRETARY SAYS
HAITIAN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
AND THE MANY VETTING VETERAN
ORGANIZATIONS WHICH ARE LISTED
IN YOUR ANALYSIS BY IN CLOSING I
WANT TO AGAIN AFFIRMATIVELY
EXCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S PROPOSED
AMENDMENT. JR ACQUIRE THE TNC IS
PULL THE DRIVER'S RECORD OF A
MILITARY MEMBER OR THEIR FAMILY
FROM THE STATE HAD THAT IS
ISSUED THAT OUT OF STATE LICENSE
IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE DRIVER'S
RECORD IS FULLY IMPROPERLY
REVIEWS. BY THE TNC I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
TODAY AYE WITH ME TO TESTIFY AS
MISTER CURTIS BRADLEY WHO IS
HIMSELF A MILITARY VETERAN. AND
AS YOU MIGHT HAVE GUESSED A
DRIVER FOR LIFT.
AND BEFORE WE ARE CONTINUING
JUST WANNA STATE FOR THE RECORD.
CASE I DIDN'T
I PROBABLY DIDN'T THAT WERE
CURRENTLY.
WE'D.
WELL WE HAVE A FORUM NOW SO OF
ALL IN IRAQ TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
HUESO PRESIDENT WAS HEALTHCARE
MORALE BRADFORD. BRADFORD HERE
CANNELLA HERE CAN NARROW VALLEY
HERE HERTZBERG KILL YOU KILLED
HERE MCGUIRE SKINNER STERN BIDAK.
THE BUYBACK HERE WIENER. MEANER
HERE.
WE HAVE A QUORUM.
NOW WILL HEAR TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT SIR YOU KNOW I THOUGHT A
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS
OUT LIKE YOU SAID MY NAME IS
CURTIS BRADLEY HIM MYSELF IN A.
MILITARY VETERAN OF THE U. S.
UNITED STATES AIRFORCE FOR FIVE
YEARS MY FAMILY DID TWENTY SIX
YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES
AIRFORCE AS WELL.
SO MY FAMILY MOVE COSTLY WHEN I
WAS GROWING UP.
AS MILITARY MEMBERS DO MOVIES
LIKE CENTER NEWMAN MENTIOED
THAT WE MOVE TEN TIMES MORE THAN
THE TYPICAL CIVILIAN FAMILY. SO
THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW THOSE
PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING IN
CALIFORNIA TO COME TO CALIFORNIA
WOULD NOT HVE TO GET WE LICENSE
AT IS IS IT ALREADY HAS A
BURDENSOME. FOR THEM TO RELOCATE
INTO OUR STATE PSALM.
I'M.
MY EXPERIENCE A DRYER.
MOVE AROUND THE COUNTRY IS YEAH
IS NOT UNIQUE.
.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY MAKES MINOR
CHANGES TO THE CURRENT LAW. THAT
WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT FOR
ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY MEMBERS AND.
I JUST WANT TO SAY.
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I REALLY LIKE THIS BILL THAT
SENATOR NEWMAN IS PROPOSING.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALLOW
IT TO PASS THROUGH AS WELL THANK
YOU AND EVEN. EARLIER.
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
LARA PROCESO HERE ON BEHALF OF
LEFT OCT ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT
FOR THIS BILL THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SUPPORTERS.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR%
POSITION ON THE BILL PLEASE OF
MICHAEL MONTHS AND I'M ALSO A
DRIVER FOR LEFT A FORMER ARMY
NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE MEMBERS I
ALSO SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS GLEN YOUNG A LIV
DRIVER.
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AND
I SUPPORT THIS BILL.
IF NEW MATHEWS SOME HALF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
MACLEOD WAS THE ONLY HAVE RUBER
THANK.
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT ANY
OPPOSITION.
WE'LL GO.
WAY WAY WAY RELAX
WITH THAT LOOKS HERE THE FOR THE
PUBLIC ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
ANYTHING FROM THE COMMITTEE. YOU
ARE SPECIAL.
OKAY I DID YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
YOU WANNA MAKE SOME CLOSING
COMMENT I APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION I RESPECTFULLY ASK
I WILL TODAY OKAY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH A QUICK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
THE PAST IS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS WESO OUR HUESO
AYE MORALE BRADFORD.
CANNELLA ALRIGHT CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG HILL. MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN BIDAK OUR BIDAK AYE WIENER
AYE WIENER AYE.
THANK YOU THE BILL.
WILL KEEP BETTER OF THE ROLE
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS THINK
THEY MISTER.
.
WELL HERE S. B. FOURTEEN THIRTY
FOUR CENTER LEYVA.
AND WHILE SHE'S GETTING READY
CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR PLACE WITH
EMOTION A QUICK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
S. BE THIRTEEN THIRTY EIGHT
HUESO DO PASSED HER
APPROPRIATIONS WHAT'S SO HIGH
WHAT'S SO I MORALE. BRADFORD
CANNELLA AYE CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG HILL MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN BIDAK.
RIGHT ACT I MEAN
WIENER AYE KANATA.
STERN I.
OF THE SLAVE PLEASE. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I'D FIRST LIKE
TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND THINK
YOU'RE COMMITTEE FOR EITHER YOUR
STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL.
S. B. THIRTY FOURTEEN THIRY
FOUR WOULD SUPPORT AND
ACCELERATE THE DEPLOYMENT OF
BATTERY ELECTRIC TRANSIT BUSES
BY REQUIRING THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION TO
INITIATE A RATE MAKING
PROCEEDING THAT ADDRESSES THE
HIGH COST OF ELECTRICITY. AS A
FUEL TRANSIT AGENCIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA ARE REPLACING
CONVENTIONAL FUEL TRANSIT BUSES
WITH BATTERY ELECTRIC TRANSIT
BUSES AS TRANSIT AGENCIES MOVED
TO AND A SCALE UP. THEIR
DEPLOYMENT OF BATTERY ELECTRIC
BUSES MANY HAVE FOUND THAT THE
COST OF ELECTRICITY FAR EXCEEDS
CONVENTIONAL FUEL. IN FACT SOME
TRANSIT AGENCIES HAVE FOUND THAT
THE COST OF FUEL PER MILE FOR
ELECTRIC BUSES CAN BE FORTY
PERCENT TO TWO TIMES HIGHER THAN
NATURAL GAS AND DIESEL FUEL.
THIS HIGH COST REMAINS TRUE EVEN
WITH STATE INCENTIVES SUCH AS
LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARDS.
THE CALIFORNIA TRANSIT
ASSOCIATION WHICH REPRESENTS
MORE THAN EIGHTY TRANSIT
AGENCIES IN THE STATE HAS
IDENTIFIED THE COST OF
ELECTRICITY AS ONE OF THE TOP
THREE BARRIERS TO TRANSIT
ELECTRIFICATION.
THE HIGH COST OF ELECTRICITY AS
A FUEL IS PREVENTING AND SLOWING
THE ADOPTION OF CLEANER ENERGY
TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS VITAL TO
MEETING THE STATE'S S. B. THIRTY
TWO GOALS. REDUCING PETROLEUM
USAGE BY FIFTY PERCENT BY TWENTY
THIRTY AND IMPROVING OUR STATE'S
AIR QUALITY. AS AIR RECESS
RESOURCES BOARD IS CURRENTLY
ADVANCING REGULATION TO REQUIRE
ALL TRANSIT AGENCIES TO PURCHASE
ZERO EMISSION BUSES THE NEED TO
FIND A SOLUTION HAS BECOME EVEN
MORE URGENT.
S. B. FOURTEEN THIRTY FOUR IS
ESSENTIAL TO CALIFORNIA'S GOALS
OF TRANSITIONING TO CLEANER
ENERGY AND REDUCING TOXIC
POLLUTION IN THE AIR. I'M
COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO
WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS
STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING THE
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WITH WE
SPEAK IN SUPPORT IS MICHAEL
PIMENTEL WITH THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSIT ASSOCIATION THE SPONSORS
OF SP FOURTEEN THIRTY FOUR.
I THINK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS OF MICHAEL HIM TELL THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT ASSOCIATION.
AND I THINK CENTER LABORED IN
NEXEN CHAVEZ SUMMARIZING OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT TRANSIT AGENCIES
FACE AS THEY MOVE TO DEPLOY ZERO
EMISSION BUSES. I DO WANT TO
EMPHASIZE TO A FEW KEY POINTS
ARE THE TRANSITION TOWARDS ZERO
MISSION BUSES IS HAPPENING SOME
OF THIS MOVEMENT IS ELECTIVE. IN
THE RESULT OF A LOCAL BOARD
ACTION BUT MUCH OF IT WILL BE
MANDATED BY THE KELP CALIFORNIA
RESOURCES BOARD. A LEADER THIS
YEAR.
I S. THIS TRANSITION UNFOLDS HOW
WE AND I I REALLY DO MEAN THE-COLLECTIVE WE THE STATE
LOCALITIES AND AND BROADER.
STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY MISSING
COMPREHENSIVELY ABOUT WHAT IT
WILL TAKE TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.
OUR OUR MEMBERS BELIEVE THIS
INCLUDES ADDRESSING HAD ON.
THE COST OF ELECTRICITY IS A
FUEL. ARE SENATOR LEYVA NOTED
THAT ELECTRICITY.
COSTS ARE HIGHER.
FOR.
ELECTRICITY RELATIVE TO NATURAL
GAS AND AND DIESEL FUEL REFINING
THE COST CAN BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN
FORTY PERCENT AND TWO TIMES
HIGHER AND THAT'S THE COST PER
PASSENGER MILE. ON AND THAT'S A
VERY REAL IMPACT WHEN YOU'RE
DEALING WITH SMALL DEPLOYMENTS
ABOUT A DOZEN BUSES BUT IT
BECOMES A DEBILITATING PROBLEM
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
FIVE HUNDRED BUSES AS IS THE
CASE IN SAN DIEGO SIX HUNDRED
BUSES IN OAKLAND OR TWENTY FOUR
HUNDRED BUSES IN LOS ANGELES.
FOR THE BILL BEFORE YOU AND
DOESN'T PROPOSE A SPECIFIC
SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE. ARM BUT
IT WOULD JUMP START THE
CONVERSATION THE CPUS CPUC ON
WHAT'S APPROPRIATE. OUT WE THINK
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IS
IMPORTANT FOR PROVIDING
ELECTRICITY RATES FROM SLOWING
THE ADOPTION ZERO EMISSION BUSES.
IN WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR I DON'T THINK.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS DOING
HUNTER ON BEHALF THE SANTA CLARA
VALLEY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.
AS WE MOVE TOWARDS ZERO EMISSION
BUSES WE HAVE TO TRY TO COME
CONTENT CONTEMPLATE. ON HOW TO
PAY FOR THE BUS ITSELF AS WELL
AS THE FUEL FOR THE BOSS IN THIS
CASE ELECTRICITY. AND HOW TO
DEPLOY MORE SERVICE WERE IN
KNOTS OF STOCK.
POSITION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SERVE THE
PUBLIC WITH CLEANER BUSES BUT
WHEN WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
THE DOLLARS SPENT. ON PAYING OUR
ULTRAFILTER OR OFFERING A
SERVICE WE NEED SOME HELP
FRIGHTENING SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SIR YOUR POSITION ON
THE BILL OUR NATURE ABOUT AROUND
TO SHOW YOUR IT'S WE. ARE BEHALF
OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AS WELL
AS THE SANTA CRUZ METROPOLITAN
TRANSIT DISTRICT BOTH IN SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SYLVIA
SOLELY SHAUN BEHALF OF ADVANCED
ENERGY ECONOMY IN SUPPORT AND
I'D ALSO LIKE TO TESTIFY ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SANTA
MONICA AND IT'S BIG BLUE BUS.
THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS VINCE WHERE
MODULAR WITH THE WHITE MEN GROUP
ON BEHALF OF PEABODY AMERICAN
SPORT.
WHICH PEOPLE CAN BE HAPPY
CALPERS SITUATION OR NAY
TRANSPORTATION.
AND THE CENTER FOR
TRANSPORTATION AND THE
ENVIRONMENT AUSTIN'S WORK.
JASON VARGAS WITH THE UNION
CONCERNED SCIENTISTS WRE LIVING
IN BETWEEN POSITION WE. FULLY
SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THE BILL.
BUT STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS
ABOUT HOW THIS MAY IMPACT
EFFORTS THAT ARE ALREADY
UNDERWAY AT THE CPC TO. DRESS.
COMMERCIAL RATES
THANK YOU.
THEY OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.
QUESTIONS COMMENTS MOTIONS.
ONE OF.
REMOVE THE BILL AND MAKE A QUICK
COMMENT YOU CAN'T MOVE IT MAY
COME IN A NEW LIGHT GOVERNMENT
AND THEN MAKE COMMENT ON THEM
MOTION. THE MOTION STOPS ALL
COMMENTS SO WHERE ONCE A MOTIONS
MADE NO MORE COMMENTS LIKE TO
MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD I KNOW.
IN LA METRO AREA WE HAVE THIS
ORIGINS OF THE ORANGE LINE MY
AREA RIGHT CANOGA PARK AND.
THAT'S THE ONE BUS I RIDE THE
SAN FERNANDO VALLEY IN THEIR
FULLY ELECTRIFYING THAT
BASICALLY PUT THE FEELING RIGHT
NOW. IS IS A BIT OF A MESS
BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING METERED
AT ALL DIFFERENT SPOTS ALONG THE
STATION AND TRY TO FIND A
COHERENT.
STRATEGY TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH
THIS UP TO YOU CAN
ELECTRIFICATION A. LAUDABLE GOAL
AND WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE THE
BILL.
THANKS SENATOR.
A ONE MAKE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS
RESPECT WESTERN AYE VOTE THANK
YOU CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
AND THE MOTION IS.
DO PASSED WITH AMENDMENTS
APPROPRIATIONS.
HUESO I WAS SO AYE MORALE
BRADFORD CANNELLA. HERTZBERG
HILL MCGUIRE.
SKINNER STERN STERN AYE BIDAK.
MIGHT ACT NO WIENER. WIENER AYE.
THE ONE THING THAT ON CALL.
AND IF WE CAN HAVE THE SERGEANTS
TRY TO GET A HOLD OF.
LARA HERTZBERG.
BUT STILL YOU KNOW WE NEED TO
GET THEM DOWN HERE. A.
DID YOU WANNA THANK GOD YEAH.
SILICON.
GOOD
IF YOU'RE READY YES SIR FAMOUS
CHAIR.
SP THIRTEEN FORTY SEVEN.
WOULD.
.
HOPEFULLY GIVE A BIT MORE
CERTAINTY INTO A MARKET THAT WE
KNOW ALL UTILITIES AND LOAD
SERVING ENTITIES IN THE STATE
NEED TO PURSUE.
WHICH IS ENERGY STORAGE.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF
APPLICATIONS OF ENERGY STORAGE
BOTH THAT TRANSMISSION
DISTRIBUTION LEVEL AS GENERATION
LEVEL AT. THAT USING IT AS A
RESOURCE USING IT IS VOLTAGE
CONTROL IS A VERY FLEXIBLE KIND
F ASSET. OF.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT TRY
TO PUSH THAT PROCUREMENT FORD I
DO WANT TO SAY UP FRONT. I WANT
TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS.
IN THE ANALYSIS AND REALLY
REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR STAFFS
HARD WORK OF MAKING THIS. THIS
FUNCTION AND VERY SENSITIVE SOME
OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED
ON ON A COST SHIFTING AND ON
RATE PAYER ISSUES BY TURN AS
WELL AS BY THE CCA'S AND ALSO
EXPRESS MY COMMITMENT TO WORKING
WITH. BOTH OF THEM GOING FOR TO
IRON OUT AS THIS BILL MOVES
ALONG IF YOU GUYS VOTE ON IT
TODAY I TO WORK THROUGH THOSE
REMAINING ISSUES. AT THIS WOULD
AUTHORIZE ALL THOSE SERVING
ENTITIES NOW UNDER THE A
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS TO PROCURE
A TOTAL OF TWO THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS WHICH HAS BEEN
IDENTIFIED AS THE P. YOU SEE IN
ITS I OR P. PROCEEDING ALREADY
SO WE FEEL LIKE. WE'RE MERELY
CODIFYING WITH THE P. YOU SEE IS
ALREADY SAID WE NEED IS A STATE.
I THINK WE GOT INTERESTING
COLLECTION STAKEHOLDERS HERE WHO
ARE ALWAYS ON THE SAME PAGE
TOGETHER SO I WITH THAT ARE JUST
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU OF.
SUPPORTERS.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A FEW
COMMENTS.
YEAH INTERNEES THANK YOU.
.
CHAIRMAN HUESO AND YOUR
COMMITTEE EMBERS AYE MARKER
WHEN FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON. AYE MY DIRECTOR OF
ENERGY CONTRACT MANAGEMENT IN
THE PROCUREMENT SPACES SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA EDISON.
SO. I'M WHAT IT ONE OF THE
IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER
ABOUT THAT THIS BILL IS WE HAVE
AGREED THAT'S RAPIDLY CHANGING
AS AS MANY OF YOU I'M SURE ARE
WELL AWARE WE HAD A LARGE
IMPLEMENTATION OF RENEWABLE
RESOURCES. WE HAVE THE WHILE
ONCE FOR COOLING UNITS ABOUT TO
DEPART FROM THE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE.
OTHER OTHER GAS PLANETS THERE
UNDER THAT IF THEY'VE BEEN VERY
CLEAR PUBLICLY THAT THEY'RE
UNDER ECONOMIC DURESS AS TO
WHETHER THEY'LL CONTINUE. AND AS
WELL IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WE
ALSO HAD SOME.
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES IN THE
FLEXIBILITY OF OUR GAS SYSTEM SO
THAT RAPIDLY CHANGING GREAT OVER
THE NEXT FEW YEARS REALLY CAUSES
US THE NEED TO ACCELERATE. ON
THE ENERGY STORAGE I NEED NOW I
IN FRONT OF YOU THERE IS JUST AS
AN EXAMPLE OF THIS THERE'S A.
A CHART HOPEFULLY ALL HAVE IT
ON THAT SHOWS SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED JUST RECENTLY HERE BUT
IT IT'S A INDICATIVE OF WHAT
WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN LAST FEW
SPRINGS.
I'M YOU SEE I'M IN A VERY SHORT
TIME PERIOD ABOUT A TEN MINUTE
TIME PERIOD WE HAVE LOADED.
SIR BY SOLAR GO FOM EIGHT
THOUSAND MEGAWATTS TO SIXTY SIX
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT THAT'S.
IT WOULD THAT PICKING PLANTS ARE
USED TO SUPPLY THESE THESE TYPE
OF FAST RESPOND RESOURCES THAT'S
ABOUT TEN PEAKING UNITS BEING
CALLED ON. IN A IN A VERY SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME ON THERE AND
THERE HAVE THE HIGHEST USAGE OF
GAS THE LEAST EFFICIENT OF THE.
OF THE TYPE OF GAS UNITS ARE ON
THE SYSTEM AND THEN THEY'RE
TURNED OFF IN A VERY SHORT
AMOUNT OF TIME YOU SEE THERE
THAT THE. BLOOD RESPONDED AND
THEN AND THERE THAT GENERATION
RESPONDED IN A TURN ON WHEN
HUESO THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF
WHAT STORY OF THE LOAD STORAGE
CAN FILL. THAT IS BEING MANAGED
BY THE HIGHEST YOU SHE RESOURCES
WE HAVE ON THE SYSTEM.
THANK THANK YOU ANY OTHER
COMMENTS SUPPORT.
HELLO CHAIRMAN HOW HUESO MY NAME
IS JANICE LAND ON THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY STORAGE LANDS I THINK
YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
.
WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT OF WHERE
WE NEED TO GO AS A STATE AND
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I LOVE
BEING A CALIFORNIAN.
HOWEVER GETTING THERE IS HARD.
AND SENATE BILL THIRTEEN FORTY
SEVEN PROVIDES. THE NECESSARY
DIRECTION TO INSURE.
THAT WE REACH OUR ENERGY GOALS.
WHEN YOU'RE TERM ENERGY STORAGE
DEPLOYMENT IS A SMART NO REGRETS
INVESTMENT.
THAT WILL FUTURE PROOF ARE
CREATED. IN THE FACE OF THE
CHANGES AND THE CHALLENGES THAT
MARK JUST MENTIONED AND HERE'S
WHY THERE'S TWO REASONS ONE.
IT'S THE ONLY ASSET CLASS
THAT CAN BE EASILY VERY EASILY
REPROGRAMMED AND REPURPOSED OVER
TYPE SAME ASSET JUST DIFFERENT
SOFTWARE ALGORITHM.
SO THEREFORE IT'S A VERY LOW
RISK IN TERMS OF. DEPLOYING IT.
DEPLOYING IT NOW SECONDLY.
ENERGY STORAGE CAN BE UNIQUELY
APPLY TO EXISTING ASSETS WHETHER
IT'S SOLAR WIND GAS.
OUR EXISTING TRANSMISSION AND
DISTRIBUTION INFRASTRUCTURE
ENSURING THAT WE OPTIMALLY
UTILIZE THE ASSETS WE HAVE.
SO AND THEN THE FINAL THING I
WANTED TO SAY IS THAT SENATE
BILL THIRTY SEC THIRTEEN FORTY
SEVEN ALSO SUPPORTS DIVERSITY.
IN OWNERSHIP MODELS.
DIRECTING BOTH UTILITY OWNED AND
THIRD PARTY OWN STORAGE SYSTEMS.
WILL PROVIDE THE NEEDED
REGULATORY CERTAINTY TO
ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT AND
COMPETITION SO WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS BRIGHT
WHITE HERE BEHALF OF RECURRENT
ENERGY A LARGE STILL SORT
DEVELOPER WE THINK THIS BILL
WILL HELP COMPLEMENT THOSE
CONTINUED INVESTMENT SO WE ASK
YOUR UNCLE THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS TWENTY
HUNTER ON BEHALF OF INSPECTOR
GET SOLUTIONS INSTRUCT SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
HOOKED.
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
PRESENT DANIEL MALES ON BEHALF
OF THE AMERICAN WIND ENERGY
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA CAUCUS WE
DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL POSITION ON
THIS BILL TODAY THAT WE
APPRECIATE THAT NEED FOR
SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS SOLAR
OVERSUPPLY AND TO REDUCE THE
NEED FOR. CONVENTIONAL
GENERATION TO MEET THE EVENING
RAMP AS THE SUN SETS.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR ON ON SOME
POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE.
THANK YOU ANYMORE SUPPORTERS.
SO CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS
OUT RECOUP OFF ON BEHALF THE
SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRIES
ASSOCIATION URGENT I'VE UP.
OKAY.
TERM MEMBERS JOHN WHITE RIDLEY
PARK IN PAIN A WE ALSO DON'T
HAVE A POSITION BUT ARE VERY
INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THE
BILL WE WANTED TO SMACK A COUPLE
POINTS HOWEVER THAT THE
LEGISLATURE IS ALREADY DIRECTED
THE COMMISSION WITH. A B. THIRTY
THREE
TO DO SOMETHING ON.
A LARGE SCALE STORAGE ESPECIALLY
WHICH THEY HAVEN'T DONE MUCH OF
IN THE RECENT INTEGRATED
RESOURCE PLAN THE COMMISSION.
BASICALLY EVEN THOUGH THE
ANALYSIS SHOWED.
THAT.
OF LARGE SCALE STORAGE WOULD
PLAGUE A A SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANT
ROLE THEY BASICALLY SAID WE
DON'T NEED IT UNTIL TWENTY
THIRTY SOMETHING SO I THINK THAT.
THE LANGUAGE IS TO BE
STRENGTHENED SO THAT THE
COMMISSION ACTUALLY DOES
SOMETHING THE OWNERSHIP ISSUES
BETWEEN OUR USE AND A CCA'S OUR
PROBLEM. BUT LET'S NOT FORGET
THAT THERE'S MORE TO STORAGE
THAN JUST BATTER THERE'S
EXISTING DAMS RIGHT THERE'S
LARGE SCALE PUMP HYDRO THAT WE
CAN USE AND AND WE JUST NEED A
BROADER PORTFOLIO AND WE NEED TO
GET SOMETHING DONE. THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE ANY.
ARE.
TWEETERS OKAY TWITTER'S COME
FORWARD.
AFTERNOON THANK YOU JAMIE MINOR
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY TWEETS ASSOCIATION I
REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH
THE AUTHORED WITH THE COMMITTEE
AND THANK THEM FOR THE
AMENDMENTS. I'M ESPECIALLY
ALLOWING CCA'S TO SELF PROCURE
AYE WE STAND READY TO DEPLOY
THESE SYSTEMS.
WE ARE ALREADY ENTERING THE
CONTRACTS TO DO SO I DO HAVE
REMAINING CONCERNS ABOUT THE
COST ALLOCATION MECHANISM AND
NOT MY POSSIBLE CHARGES LANGUAGE.
BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE A
COMMITMENT FROM THE AUTHOR ON
WORKING WITH THAT SO APPRECIATED
AND FOR TO FOR HIM THANK YOU
SHOULD.
AND MICHAEL BUCHER DOOR WITH
WEST COAST ADVISERS ON FIRST ON
BEHALF OF NATIONAL GRAD WE WOULD
ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MISTER
BIJAN WHITE.
YEAH I IN TERMS OF BULK STORAGE
NEEDING TO BE APART ESPECIALLY
AS WE MOVE INTO A MUCH LARGER. A
PURCHASE OF OF STORAGE RESOURCES
IN CALIFORNIA WE NEED TO GET
PUMP HYDRO. AND SOME THE OTHER
LARGE SCALE PROJECTS THAT ARE
AVAILABLE AND ON BEHALF OF THE
AG ENERGY CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION
RATE PAYER ADVOCACY. THAT WE ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT UTIITY
OWNERSHIP AND THAT'S A BIG ISSUE
FOR US THE IN TERMS OF. BUT
PROBABLY NOT THE MOST COST
EFFECTIVE WAY TO TO GET THESE
RESOURCES BUILT.
AN ONLINE IN CALIFORNIA SO THEY
CAN THANK.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
I'M ISRAEL SALAS WITH SAN DIEGO
GAS AND ELECTRIC HERE IS A
TWEENER WITH NO OFFICIAL
POSITION WE'VE OPENED UP A
DIALOGUE WITH THE SENATOR'S
OFFICE AND LOOK FORWARD TO.
WHILE WALKING THROUGH SOME OF
OUR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT
WE HAVE AT THE BILL THINK OKAY
DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION.
NOT NO OPPOSITION OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION IN THE COMMITTEE.
A MOTION.
WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SURE MAKES A CLOSING COMMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IN
THIS. OP TAKE FOOD THE FEEDBACK
SERIOUSLY AND.
.
THE COMMITMENTS THEY ALL REFER
TO WORK QUITE REAL.
AND JUST WANT TO THANK THIS
COMMITTEE FOR ALL THEIR HARD
WORK SO WITH THAT RESPECTFULLY
ASK DR OF THANK YOU.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS WES SO I WAS SO I
MORALE BRADFORD. AYE CANNELLA
AYE CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG HILL.
MCGUIRE SKINNER STERN. STERN AYE
BIDAK BIDAK NO WIENER WIENER AYE.
VERY GOOD WILL HOLD THE ROPE
RULE FROM THE VILLAGE REYES.
WE'RE GONNA CALLED US SENATOR
WIENER UP WITH S. B. THIRTY
NINETY NINE.
AND ALSO WANTED TO WORK IT'S ON
THE RECORD ON THE AMENDMENTS YOU
FEEL COMMITTEES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF OUR TIME
IS GERMAN AND WE DO ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS INSIDE
GOING TO SHIP THE COLLABORATION.
AND.
THIS BILL COLLEAGUES S. B.
THIRTY NINETY NINE ARE REQUIRES
OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION.
AS PART OF ITS ALREADY
SCHEDULED NET METERING REVIEW.
TO ESTABLISH A TARIFF WERE
MULTIPLE TERRACE OUGHT TO ALLOW
POTENTIAL SOLAR BUYERS. A TO
PARTNER WITH DEVELOPED AND
PREVIOUSLY IMPACTED SITES SUCH
AS WAREHOUSES PARKING LOTS.
BROWNFIELDS LANDFILLS AND OFFICE
BUILDINGS TO REDEVELOP THOSE
SITES WITH CLEAN LOCAL RENEWABLE
ENERGY.
IT WILL BASICALLY ALLOW US TO.
USE INFILL A DEVELOPMENT OF
RENEWABLE ENERGY ON AREAS THAT
ARE ALREADY EXISTING NOT BEING
USED.
COULD BE.
COVERED WITH RENEWABLE.
GENERATION BY AND THEN.
ALLOW THAT TO BE.
EFFECTIVELY I'VE USED UP BY
OTHER USERS WHO HAVE HIGH ENERGY
NEEDS PAPA DON'T HAVE OTHER ROOF
SPACE.
TO.
TO GENERATE RENEWABLE ENERGY
FOR THEIR NEEDS.
THE COMMISSION WILL BE REQUIRED
TO REACH A FINAL DECISION.
ESTABLISHING THIS TERROR FOR
TARIFFS NO LATER THAN JANUARY
FIRST TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
FIVE BECAUSE THAT'S IF YOU SEE
IS SET TO REVISIT NET METERING.
TARIFFS NEXT YEAR TWENTY
NINETEEN BY THIS CREATES A
PERFECT OPPORTUNITY OUGHT TO
FOLD THIS AND.
CALIFORNIA LEADS THE NATION IN
RENEWABLE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT AND
THIS WILL HELP US I MOVED.
MORE FORCEFULLY IN THAT
DIRECTION.
AND.
WITH ME TODAY ARE RECOUP OFF
FROM THE SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION AND MATTHEW HARPER
GROUP FROM THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I GO.
THANK YOU
YOU ONE MAKES COMMENTS.
YES THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND A
COMMEMORATION IS RECOUP OFTEN I
SERVICE REGULATORY COUNSEL AND
CALIFORNIA DIRECTOR AT.
AS CIA THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
FOR SOLAR COMPANIES OUT WE ARE
THE SPONSORS OF.
THIS BILLS SP THIRTEEN NINETY
NINE.
ARE THIS BILL PROVIDES ANOTHER
OPTION FOR CUSTOMERS TO GAIN
ACCESS TO NEW ENERGY. IT'LL
EXPAND ACCESS TO DISTRIBUTED
ENERGY OUT OF ENERGY.
FOR BUSINESSES NONPROFITS.
A PUBLIC ENTITIES.
AND DRIVE INVEST IN THE BUILT
ENVIRONMENT WHICH WILL DELIVER
LOCAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL
BENEFITS WILL COST EFFECTIVELY.
ALLOWING THE STATE TO REACH ITS
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION
REDUCTION GOALS ARE TODAY MANY
BUSINESSES NONPROFITS PUBLIC
ENTITIES CAN HOST ROBLES ON SITE
FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. AND
THIS BILL IS AN EIGHT WILL
ENABLE THESE CUSTOMER GROUPS
THAT CAN'T GO SOLAR ORDER
INVESTMENT WAS ON SITE TO DO SO
ARM.
OFFSITE.
IN.
WHEN PARCELLS WHERE THERE'S A
UP A PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR
DEVELOPING RENEWABLE ENERGY
PROJECTS.
DE WE BELIEVE THIS BILL WILL
EFFECTIVELY ALLOW.
BUSINESSES TO PARTNER WITH.
WITH.
LANDOWNERS.
TO BRING THESE GROUPS TOGETHER
AND WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
COME TOGETHER BEFORE.
THE TO HELP US BOTH CREATE
LOCAL JOBS AND D. CARBONIZED
GRADE.
IN WITH THAT WE URGE YOUR AYE
VOTE AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS THANK YOU THANK YOU
AND SIR THIS ONE LOOKS AND
COMMENTS MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
MATTHEW HARD WITH THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION.
AND FOR US THIS BILL IS QUITE
SIMPLE AS THE STATE MOVES
TOWARDS.
THAT ZERO NET ENERGY GOALS.
IF YOU HAVE A ONE STORY TWO
STORY BUILDING WITH LARGE ROOF
YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF SOLAR ON IT.
WE HAVE A THIRTY TWO STORY
BUILDING WITH A VERY TINY ROOF
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY VERY
DIFFICULT FOR THAT BUILDING READ
ZERO NET ENERGY. IT'S A BILLS
LIKE THIS AND POLICIES LIKE THIS
THAT WLL HELP THOSE OF US IN
URBANIZED AREAS WITH TALLER
BUILDINGS. THAT MEET THOSE GOALS
OF THE STATE GETTING TOWARDS ON
THAT ENERGY AND WE ARE YOUR
IPHONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU
ANYBODY ELSE IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN I
WOULD GET ON THE WITH COULD
DAINIUS AND ASSOCIATES. ARE
REPRESENTING BERATE SOLAR AS
WELL AS COALITION FOR
RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK THE AUTHOR THINK THE
CHAIRMAN. THANK.
LARA BENNETT WITH TEKE IN
SUPPORT IN THE THE AUTHOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD ARCH
RIVAL.
MY CLUMSY WITH A CALIFORNIA
SOLAR AND STORAGE ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT.
THOROUGHBREDS WITHOUT A
CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF.
ANA FERRERO AT THE SCHOOL ENERGY
COALITION IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
HEARING MALES FOR THE CALIFORNIA
FARM BUREAU HOPE FOR HIM IN THE
RIGHT SPOT I'M A BETWIXT AND
BETWEEN PERSON. AND THE FARM
BUREAU DOESN'T HAVE A POSITION
ON THE BILL AT THIS STAGE FOR.
BEEN DISCUSSING WITH PROPONENTS
THE CORRECT WAY THE APPROPRIATE
WAY TO CHARACTERIZE AFFECTED
AGRICULTURAL LAND WHICH IS
CALLED OUT IN THE. IN THE BILL
AND WE EXPECT TO CONTINUE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS AS THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD THINK THEY CARE.
ANYONE OUT IN ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL
.
BUT GOOD AFTERNOON AMBER BOOKS
WITH THE INDEPENDENT ENERGY
PRODUCERS ASSOCIATION HERE IN
OPPOSITION TODAY.
S. B. THIRTEEN NINETY NINE
CREATES A MARKET STRUCTURE WHERE
YOU HAVE A GENERATOR LOCATED
AWAY FROM AN END USE CUSTOMER
AND THEY CAN EXPORT THAT THROUGH
THE DISTRIBUTION AND
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM THROUGH TO A
THIRD PARTY AND USE CUSTOMER.
THE TRANSACTION IS PAID IN A
MINISTRY OF WE ADMINISTRATIVELY
ESTABLISH PRICE BASED ON THE NET
METERING PROGRAM.
AND THIS IS NOT COMPETITIVELY
DETERMINED AND EXCEED THE
AVOIDED COST OF THE ACTUAL
ENERGY IS SO SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE
CONCERNS AT THIS BILL AS A AS
STRUCTURE KIND OF THAT.
VIOLATES THE FEDERAL POWER ACT
BECAUSE THIS TRANSACTION IS A
SALE FOR RESALE OF ELECTRICITY.
ON THE WHOLESALE GRADES AND
EXCEED THE AVOIDED COST OF THE
ENERGY. AND SECONDLY WE THINK
THAT THIS IS EFFECTIVELY
EXPANDING THE DIRECT ACCESS
PROGRAM UNDER. THE GUISE OF A
SHARED RENEWABLE ENERGY PROGRAM.
AT THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION PARTY HAS A
LIMITED DIRECT ACESS PROGRAM
AND WE THINK THAT THIS MAY BE
THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT
THIS KIND OF TRANSACTION IS
UNDER THOSE DIRECT ACCESS. AYE
WORKINGS AT THE PC.
AND THEN FINALLY WHICH I KNOW
THE ANALYSIS ADDRESS IS JUST
THIS ISSUE OF COST SHIFT ON. WE
HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN
MODERNIZING THE GENERATION FLEET
THE TRANSMISSION AND
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN
CALIFORNIA. AND THE GREAT
HOSTAGE BE PAID FOR ALL THOSE
THAT BENEFIT AND WE THINK THAT
THE MORE MORE OF THESE PROGRAMS
THAT WE PASSED THE MORE THAT IT
LEAVES LESS.
CUSTOMERS TO PAY FOR THAT GRADE
THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE SO WE
WOULD I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU
KNOW VOTE.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS LIVING OF
PLUMBING SOME BEHALF OF PACIFIC
GAS ELECTRIC COMPANY HOW WE ARE
HERE IN OPPOSITION. TO SB
THIRTEEN NINETY NINE ON P.
JEANNIE SUPPORTS CUSTOMER
OPTIONS TO ADOPT RENEWABLE
DISTRIBUTION ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES
AND TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN THAT.
IS ONE OF THE LEADING SOLAR
UTILITIES WITH ROUGHLY TWENTY
PERCENT OF ALL ROOFTOP SOLAR IN
THE COUNTRY LOCATED IN OUR
SERVICE TERRITORY. HOWEVER.
AS OUR COLLEAGUES AT IEP.
INDICATED.
WE CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BILL
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT WILL JUST
EXACERBATE EXISTING COST SHIFTS
CAUSED BY NET ENEGY METERING BY
RECREATING.
BY REQUIRING THE CREATION OF A
VIRTUAL A NET METERING TARIFF TO
BE USED BY NON RESIDENTIAL
CUSTOMERS.
WE BELIEVE ARE NOT PROTECT
PARTICIPATING CUSTOMERS COULD BE
FORCED TO PAY UP TO ONE POINT
SIX BILLION.
DOLLARS PER YEAR OF COST VOTE
POINTED BY IBM CUSTOMERS OF WHO
DO NOT PAY FOR TRANSMISSION AND
DISTRIBUTION COSTS
UNDER THIS PROPOSAL.
AGAIN WE SUPPORT THE
AVAILABILITY OF INNOVATIVE AND
RENEWABLE OPTIONS FOR ALL OF OUR
CUSTOMERS.
OF HOWEVER A WE CANNOT SUPPORT
THIS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD
ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO USE THE
TRANSMISSION TRANSMISSION AND
DISTRIBUTION TO READ WITHOUT
PAYING FOR THE SERVICES WE ASK
FOR YOU KNOW VOTE.
I CAN I JUST WANTED TO I READ
OUT THE THE.
AMENDMENTS PUBLICLY JUST SO THE
SPEAKERS ARE AWARE OF THE
AMENDMENTS.
ON THE BILL.
AND AND THE AUTHORS MET.
EXCEPT IN THE MEN. THEY WOULD
REQUIRE THE CPU SEATED TO ENSURE.
THAT THE CREDITS APPLIED UNDER
THE BILL DO NOT RESULT IN ANY
COST SHIFTS
THE BUNDLED UTILITY CUSTOMERS
AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT. IS TO
ENSURE. THAT TARIFFS ARE IN THE
BEST INTERESTS.
OF RATEPAYERS.
HOW DID YOU WANNA MAKE SOME?
YES COVERAGE REBECCA LEE ON
BEHALF OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON IN ADDITION TO THE
CONCERNS PREVIOUSLY REYES WILL
ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
THERE IS AN EXISTING VERY
SIMILAR PROGRAM. MANDATED UNDER
SENATE BILL FORTY THREE BY THEN
SENATOR WILK THAT A CHEESE AND
HAS VERY SIMILAR GOALS TO THIS
LEGISLATION. AND.
AND WE ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT
THAT THIS LEGISLATION ONLY
APPLIES TO REQUIREMENTS ON.
ELECTRICAL RATIONS AND NOT ALL
OF THOSE SERVING ENTITIES AND
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE
HAVE RAISED WITH OTHER AUTHORS
OFFICE AS WELL AS THE OTHER
SPONSORS SO.
HERE TO ORDER NUMBER THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MELISSA COURSE HAS
ROTH ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
WIND ENERGY ASSOCIATION AND I IN
OPPOSITION ONE ASSOCIATE. OUR
POSITION WITHOUT OF IEP THANK
YOU.
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS SYLVIA
SO LEAST SEAN BEHALF OF ADVANCED
ENERGY ECONOMY AND ACTUALLY HERE
AND SUPPORT I APOLOGIZE I
CLEANLY BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE
SURE TO REGISTER MY CLIENT'S
PART THANK YOU THANK YOU.
AFTERNOON CHEN MEMBERS WERE
GOING AT IT ON THIS ITS INDIA
GAS AND ELECTRIC COMPANY IN
SUPPORT OF EXCUSE ME OPPOSITION.
I. THINK.
WOULD WE ALMOST FLIPPED US WHAT
HAPPENED.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE
COMMENTS DISCUSSION.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION JUST FOR
THE PURPOSES OF.
MCGUINNESS FORWARD.
CHRIST GUYS PLEASE ONE QUESTION.
WHO THE AUTHOR?
SECRECY CA FRONT
I JUST.
IF VERSION DAY INCLUDING LSE'S
ZERO I THINK WHAT'S THE AYE ARE
THE IS THINK WHAT SAN FRANCISCO.
ALREADY DOING ON THE I KNOW
THEY'RE REALLY CREATIVE ABOUT
THIS KIND OF.
SHARED RENEWABLE STUFF I JUST TO
KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON ON THE
CCA SETTINGS THIS IS JUST AYE
YOU BUT.
DOES HE STILL HAVE THE OPTION OF.
A PARTICIPATING TODAY THE
OPTION OF UTILIZING THIS TARIFF
STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING
GOT IT OKAY.
MOVED UP THANK YOU LIVE MOTION
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
YOU PASS IS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS WESO. BY HUESO I
MORALE BRADFORD CANNELLA.
HERTZBERG HILL MCGUIRE SKINNER.
STERN STERN I'VE IDEC WIENER AYE
WIENER AYE.
OKAY OKAY THROW OPEN LEFT OFF.
NORTH DOT ROUGHLY.
BUT.
NBI NOT REALLY UGLY.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB
ELEVEN THIRTY FIVE BILL THAT
WHICH WILL ALLOW DISADVANTAGED
FAMILIES.
PARTICIPATE IN THE CARE.
PROGRAMMER BETTER KNOWN AS
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS GREAT FOR
ENERGY FOR SOMEONE I THANK THE
CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMITTEE FOR
YOUR DEDICATED WORK AND THEM
HIMSELF WE'VE.
WORKED ON I'M ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND NOT.
IN THE BOOK WHICH ARE NOT
INCLUDED IS ANALYSIS NOW SITS
WHICH INCREASES A CAP. ON THE
PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY THREAD SHOW
FROM TWO HUNDRED PERCENT TO TWO
HUNDRED FIFTY PERCENT OF THE
FEDERAL PARK PROPERTY LEVEL THE
CARE PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN
NINETEEN EIGHTY NINE TO ASSIST
LOW INCOME ELECTRIC. AND GAS
CUSTOMERS AND HAS BEEN
SUCCESSFUL IN SUPPORTING MANY
FAMILIES.
VETERAN NEED.
PARTICIPANTS RECEIVE THIRTY TO
THIRTY FIVE PERCENT OFF THEIR
ELECT FEEL AND TWENTY PERCENT
OFF THEIR GAS BILLS NASTY TO
PROGRAM CURRENTLY CSUS.
THAT'S A CUT OFF AT ABOUT TWO
AND A TWO HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE
FEDERAL POVERTY LINE UNDER
EXISTING LAW FAMILY OF FOR
QUALIFIES FOR THE PROGRAM THAT
THEY MAKE. NO MORE THAN FORTY
NINE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED
DOLLARS A YEAR.
THIS BILL RAISES AMOUNT TO SIXTY
ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED.
THIS UPDATED DRIVE CHAU WELL
MORE ACCURATELY ACCURATELY
REFLECT THE TRUE COST OF LIVING
IN OUR STATE.
ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY SKY S. B.
ELEVEN THIRTY FIVE ENSURES THAT
CARE PROGRAM CONTINUES TO REACH.
HOUSEHOLDS IN NEED.
THERE'S NO OPPOSITION IN A
REQUEST WE ARE THE.
THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY
SPEAKERS IN SPORT.
HE WOULD COME UP TO THE MIKE AND
STATE POSITION.
REBEKAH GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER WE WORK WITH
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE
INCLUDING PEOPLE IN HIGH COST
AREAS LIKE THE BAY AREA. AND
THEY HAVE A HARD TIME MAKING
ENDS MEET SO WE FULLY SUPPORT
THAT SPELL THANK YOU THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE.
SUPPORT.
TO HAVE ANY OPPOSITION.
WELCOME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR DISCUSSION ANYONE WITH THE
BILL. WE HAVE A MOTION COOK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL TO JOIN
MAKE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS.
THANK YOU.
CLICK CALDERON. ANY EXCEPT THE
COMMANDMENTS.
IT HAS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS WESO BY HUESO AYE
MORALE BRADFORD AYE AYE BRADFORD
AYE CANNELLA AYE AYE CANNELLA
AYE HERTZBERG. HILL MCGUIRE.
SKINNER. STERN. AYE STERN AYE
VITA SITE MIGHT AYE WIENER.
OKAY SEVERAL OF WILL OPEN
PERHAPS AND MEMBERS.
RIGHT MISTER ARAFAT YOUR TAKE UP.
FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE SP
THIRTEEN SEVENTY FOUR.
THANK AS CHAIRMAN OF MEMBERS ARE
S. B. THIRTY SEVENTY FOUR.
TO LEECH UPDATED CODE THAT
ESTABLISHES.
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION'S
INTEGRATED ENERGY POLICY REPORT
KNOWN AS THE I EP ARE.
THIS BILL ALSO PROVIDES THE
ENERGY COMMISSION WITH THE
ABILITY TO DELEGATE TASKS
THROUGH ITS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
THROUGH AN AFFIRMATIVE. VOTE.
OF THE COMMISSION REPORT IN THE
MEETINGS OF A COMMISSION
BUSINESS MEETINGS SO. YOU KNOW
THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A A COULD
CLEAN UP BILL THAT ELIMINATES
BECAUSE ARE NOT NECESSARY.
AND IT'S.
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN
WORKING ON WITH THE ENERGY
COMMISSION. OTHER SUPPORT OF THE
BILL.
ABOUT THE.
SINCE THE CREATION OF THE I EP
ARE OVER FIFTEEN YEARS AGO A
NUMBER OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
HAVE BEEN ADDED.
BUT THOSE CODE SECTIONS HAVE NOT
BEEN UPDATED.
AND.
OUTDATED REQUIREMENTS HAVE NOT
BEEN REPEALED.
SO OF THIS IS.
A SIMPLE BILL.
BUT A VERY NECESSARY BILL.
.
ASK FOR YOUR OF SUPPORT FOR THE
MEASURE MICHELLE ARE YOU TAKING
AMENDMENTS.
F. CLEAVER AND THAT WOULD I
THINK WE DO HAVE SO IT WAS YEAH
WE BILLION YOU FORCE THEM AS ON
YOURSELF I TOOK IT. I DID OUT
FROM A OF A TOUGH NEGOTIATOR.
ALRIGHT.
WHEN IS IN SPORT HER.
ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
I SEE NONE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE MOTION BY SENATOR BIDAK
ANY COMMENTS THE NONE HAVE
SURGICAL.
I PACKED WITH OTHER HUMANS.
OKAY GIVE PASSES AMENDED TO THE
SENATE FLOOR WESO I WAS SO I AM
MORALE. BRADFORD ON BRADFORD AYE
CANNELLA AYE CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG HILL. MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN STERN I INVITE AT. MY A
GUY WIENER.
OKAY IT IS EASY FIVE ZERO LEAVE
THAT I'LL CALL.
WE'RE ONNA GO OVER ON SOME
VOTES ON THE BILLS THAT HAVE
ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED SO WE CAN
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
BEGINNING WITH A. ITEM TO SP
TEN EIGHTY.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY THURMOND
DEPRESSES AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT THAT FOUR
ZERO. MORALE.
BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE HERTZBERG
HILL MCGUIRE.
SKINNER TURNED FIVE STERN AYE.
NO TAKE UP AND.
EVERYBODY HERE WAS.
PRESIDENT METAPHOR.
YEAH HERE.
YES.
SENATOR HILL IS HERE WILL WILL.
I HAVEN'T PRESENT HIS BILL NOW.
S. B. FOURTEEN SEVENTY FOUR.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS.
LET ME BEGIN BY ACCEPTING ALL OF
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS FROM
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT
I AGREE TO IN THAT COMMITTEE
YESTERDAY.
I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND
ENERGY COMMITTEES FOR THEIR HARD
WORK AND THEIR COORDINATION OF
THIS MEASURE.
THREE FOURTEEN SEVENTY FOUR
ALLOWS THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION.
TO BETTER ENFORCE AGAINST
UNLICENSED TRANSPORTATION
CARRIERS BY ALLOWING THE P. YOU
SEE.
THE IMPOUND VEHICLES UNDER THEIR
JURISDICTION A NUMBER OF AUDITS.
OF UC'S TRANSPORTATION
ENFORCEMENT BRANCH OVER THE PAST
FEW YEARS HAVE CONCLUDED THAT
THE BRANCH DOES NOT ADEQUATELY
ENSURE. THAT VEHICLES COMPLY
WITH STATE LAW THAT WISH QUOTED
FROM THE ENFORCEMENT BRANCH
AUDIT.
IN TWENTY FIFTEEN I AUTHORED A
MEASURE ADOPTING A NUMBER OF
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STATE
AUDITOR'S REPORT ON THE CPU SEES
TRANSPORTATION BRANCH.
HOWEVER ONE SOLUTION FROM THE
LEGISLATION DID NOT RESULT IN
THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT
NECESSARY TO ENSURE CARRIERS
DON'T FLOAT THE LAW.
MOST COMMONLY ILLEGAL VEHICLES
OPERATE WITHOUT FEAR SHE
LICENCES UNDERCUTTING BOTH
LAWFUL CARRIERS. OF THEIR
BUSINESS AND THE PC OF PROPER
SAFETY MONITORING OF THESE
VEHICLES.
IF UC'S FISCAL OFFICES NOTED
THAT CURRENTLY HAVE ALMOST EIGHT
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH
OF UNPAID FINES FROM UNLICENSED
CARRIERS. BECAUSE THESE CARRIERS
REALIZE THERE IS NO FURTHER
ENFORCEMENT.
AFTER THE P. UC ISSUES A
CITATION.
KALI JUST BE FOURTEEN SEVENTY
FOUR CLOSES ONE REMAINING
RECOMMENDATION CALLED FOR IN THE
LAST P. SHE TRANSPORTATION AUDIT.
THAT IS TO ALLOW THE P. UC TO
IMPOUND THE THROW CARRIERS I HAD
FOR EUROPE MEMBERS THANK YOU
HAVE A WITNESS.
Q. WHAT YOUR MEMORIES PREGGO
COOK LIVES IN THE. GREATER
CALIFORNIA LIVERY ASSOCIATION
UNFORTUNATELY IN TODAY'S
ENVIRONMENT.
THERE'S AN INCENTIVE TO
OPERATING ILLEGALLY.
THIS BILL WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT
PROBLEM.
SHE DRIVE VOTE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE'S SUPPORT.
PUBLIC.
DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL.
OKAY DID YOU.
COMMITTEE MONEY. THAT WE HAVE A
MOTION DID YOU WANNA MAKE
INCLUDE COMMENTS REFLECT WE HAVE
TRIBAL MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH VERY WELL.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DO PASSES AMENDED WITH THE
PUBLIC SAFETY AMENDMENTS FROM
YESTERDAY WEST SO. I WAS SO AYE
MORALE BRADFORD ON
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA AYE AYE
CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG HILL AYE
AYE HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER AND
STERN. STERN I INVITE ACT BY
THAT GUY WIENER.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS?
ORGANISED.
START AGAIN AND.
.
AND ON ABSENT MEMBERS.
ON.
ITEM TO.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY QUICKLY SCULLY
ABSENT MEMBERS.
THE PASS AS AMENDED HAVE
PREPARATIONS CURRENT VOTE SIX
ZERO MORALE. HERTZBERG HILL.
HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER.
WE WILL KEEP THE REAL OPEN ON
THAT BILL.
WILL GO TO ITEM.
FOR S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY FIVE.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE UPS
MEMBERS DE PASSES AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE FIVE
ZERO MORALE. HERTZBERG AYE
HERTZBERG AYE HILL. HILL AYE
MCGUIRE SKINNER. WIENER.
OKAY TRAVEL WILL NOW HEAR A.
PRESENTATION.
CENTER HERTZBERG ON S. B. ELEVEN
THIRTY ONE.
REGARDING ELECTRICAL AND GAS
CORPORATIONS.
ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
AND IF WE CAN GET FIRED TO MAKE
A COMMENT ON THE RECORD EXCEPT
IN DO. THE AMENDMENTS.
I WOULD NEVER
COURSE I WILL AND JOKING YES
EXPERIMENTS.
BUT.
RELUCTANTLY WITH MY ARM BEHIND
MY BACK NO OF COURSE THANK YOU
SIR.
ARMS.
IS IS COMMITTEE IS WELL AWARE OF
WE HAVE.
FIGURES TO TODAY'S OF THE ENERGY
CRISIS SAY AND THE. WORLD.
UNDERSTANDING OF GREENHOUSE
GASES. AND IS ADVERSE AFFECT ON
THE ENVIRONMENT A ENTERED IT.
INTRODUCED IN AND PASSED SO MANY
BILLS DEALING WITH REDUCTION
PASSING ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND.
REDUCING OUR GHGS WE'VE DONE
THIS A SERIES OF MEASURES THAT
WAS WE KNOW AB THIRTY TWO S. B.
THIRTY TWO S. B. THREE FIFTY
JUST TO NAME. A FEW.
ON THAT WE'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH
IT IT WE RAISE THE STANDARD S.
B. THIRTY TO FORTY PERCENT
REDUCTION S. B. THREE FIFTY
DOUBLE THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
GOALS.
SIMMER WILLIAMS IN TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN BROUGHT A NEW WAVE OF
CHANGE IN HOW THE P. YOU SEE
FUNDS ENERGY EFFICIENCY FOR
EXISTING BUILDINGS. WITH A DIEGO
TWO WE DECIDED TO GET RID OF THE
OLD NOTION OF TRYING TO
DETERMINE WHETHER A PARTICULAR.
UPGRADE WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED WITH OR WITHOUT THE
INCENTIVE YET WE STILL HAVE THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
ANALYZING PROJECT BY PROJECT
ENERGY SAVINGS IN THE INDUSTRIAL
AND AGRICULTURAL SECTOR WINDS
THAT IMPORTANT WHEN YOU GO LOOK
AT THE SCOPING PLAN THAT'S DONE
BY BY CARVE. IT OUTLINES WHERE
THE SOURCES OF GHGS ARE FIFTY
PERCENT OF THE ENERGY USAGE
COMES FROM THE AG SECTOR.
PARTICULAR ONE COUPLE COUNTIES A
EN AND.
IN THE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR SO THE
QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE MODERNIZE
THAT HOPEFULLY BRING THAT
FORWARD HOW CAN WE AS A BODY
CAPTURE THESE ENERGY SAVINGS IN
A MORE THOUGHTFUL INTELLIGENT
WAY. THE ISSUES THAT THE P. UC
IS SAYING THAT AFTER YOU SPEND
YOUR MONEY THINK ABOUT THIS
THING ABOUT THIS MISTER CHAIRMAN.
SAID TO SOMEBODY GOT TO SPEND
THE MONEY. AFTER YOU SPEND THE
MONEY. ALL DETERMINE WHETHER OR
NOT I'M CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR
NOT IT'S AN ENERGY SAVINGS JUST
DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS TO
BRING SOME RATIONALITY TO THIS
PROCESS BY SAYING ONE PROJECTS
NEED TO BE MEASURED AGAINST
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE GUIDELINES
ACCORDING TO SPECIFIC TIME LINES
AND TO. REQUIRES AT THE REQUEST
FOR INFORMATION.
OUR PROJECTIONS AND SUGGESTED
MODIFICATIONS BE PROVIDED IN
WRITING WITHIN THE COMPANY
EXPLANATION ACCORDING TO CERTAIN
TIMELINES.
THE WHICH IS JUST TRYING TO
APPLY THESE PRINCIPLES IN A
THOUGHTFUL WAY THIS BILL WAS
HEARD THIS COMMITTEE LAST YEAR I
THINK IT WAS HELD IN. ASSEMBLY
PROPS.
APPROACH.
ANOTHER APPROACH GENERAL'S
CAMINO.
ADD SO WEIRD WERE TAKEN ESTATE
AS COUPLE YEARS AGO I GUESS IT
WOULD TAKE A STAB AT IT AND I IT
WE HAVE TODAY WHERE ANYMORE.
WITH A CALIFORNIA EH EFFICIENCY
DEMAND MANAGEMENT COUNSELING IS
WE ALL KNOW WHO WERE OLDER
PEOPLE OF THEIR ADDRESSES A
LONGER TERM RISK. FORMER CHIEF
OF STAFF TO THE PRO TEM.
ITS NAME.
A.
CAN'T TOP THAT WITH US SIR.
BY AIR NUMERO REPRESENTS A LOT
OF.
EFFICIENCY.- COUNCIL IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
AS SENATOR SAID.
THIS IS THAT A LIGHTER VERSION
IF YOU WILL OF WHAT THIS
COMMITTEE PASSED A BILL LAST
YEAR.
AND BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS
IT ADDS.
AS THE SENATOR SUGGESTED
INDUSTRIAL AND AGRICULTURAL TO
EXISTING CONDITIONS BASS LINE
WHICH WAS CONTAINED IN THE
WILLIAMS BILL EIGHT OF TO A
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO MAKING IT
CLEAR THAT THOSE PROJECTS WHICH
HAVE HIGH GHQ WERE ALWAYS
INCLUDED.
IT IT INTENDED TO BE INCLUDED
IN THAT PROGRAM IT ALSO MAKES.
FOR THE GUIDELINES AND
STANDARDS FOR EVALUATING THESE
PROJECTS CLEAR.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE
APPRECIATE THAT THERE WILL BE
SOME CERTAINTY AND TIMELINES.
AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A
MORE PREDICTABLE MARKET FROM
THAT PERSPECTIVE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE MICHAEL
SAW CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION SO I
THINK CENTER FOR BRINGING THIS
BILL FORWARD AGAIN.
MANY MANUFACTURERS ARE LOOKING
TO INVEST IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY
BOTH BECASE IT MAKES THEIR
PRODUCTS MORE MARKETABLE IN SOME
WAYS BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
BECAUSE IT SAVES DOLLARS AND
CENTS. HELPS REDUCE SOME OF
THEIR OTHER COMPLIANCE
OBLIGATIONS AS WELL. IN ORDER
FOR THAT TO HAPPEN TO PENCIL OUT
ECONOMICALLY THEY NEED TO HAVE
BE ABLE TO GET SOME ACCESS TO
SOME THESE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH
THE RACE THAT THEY PAY.
CUT TO THE UTILITIES.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE ARE
CLEAR AND AND EASILY UNDERSTOOD
CRITERIA.
MANY OF SOME AND SEVERAL
MEMBERS I'VE SPOKEN TO OF OUR
ASSOCIATION HAVE INDICATED THAT
THEY HAVE PROJECTS REJECTED.
AFTER THEY'VE GONE AWAY THROUGH
THE PROCESS BY THE ENERGY
DIVISION AND NOBODY REALLY UNDER
QUITE UNDERSTANDS WHY THAT'S
HAPPENING OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT
THE THE UP THE CRITERIA ARE NOT
CLEAR EASILY UNDERSTOOD. AND IT
CHANGES MIDSTREAM IN MANY CASES
SO HAVING CLEAR OBJECTIVES CLEAR
STANDARDS IS IMPORTANT IT'S FAIR.
I AND IT MAKES IT A GREATER
OPPORTUNITY FOR CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS TO INVEST IN
ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
THAT HELP SUPPORT. OUR A CLEAN
ENERGY GOALS ARE CLIMATE CHANGE
GOALS AND ULTIMATELY BETTER
ENVIRONMENT ISSUE CALIFORNIA TO
KEEP THANK YOU.
SECURE MEMBERS SHAUN WHITE WITH
A CLEAN PARK CAMP. WHERE WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL AND
TAKE IT REALLY ILLUSTRATES SOME
OF THEM FUNCTIONAL PROBLEMS WE
HAVE AT THE P. C. ENTERS A MICRO
MANAGEMENT OF SECOND GUESSING
AND?
THING ONE THING AND THEN
CHANGING HER MIND AND A CREATING
GREAT UNCERTAINTY SO WE HOPE
THIS BILL GETS ALL THE WAY
THROUGH THIS TIME AND WE THANK
THE SENATOR FRAUD THREE THANK
YOU.
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE TAUGHT O'CONNELL THE
CLEAR RESULT HERE IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL THANK THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SYLVIA
SOLELY SHAUN BEHALF OF ADVANCED
ENERGY ECONOMY IN SUPPORT.
SHARON MEMBERS KAREN MILLS FOR
THE CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU
FEDERATION IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL THANK YOU.
SHARE MEMBERS BRUCE MAGNANI ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA LARGE
ENERGY CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THAT AFTERNOON TO THE USE OF THE
CALIFORNIA LEAGUE FOOD PRODUCERS
REPRESENTING THE FOOD PROCESSING
INDUSTRY IN CALIFORNIA I THINK
THE SENATOR FOR INTRODUCING THE
BILL THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
OPPOSITION.
TO HAVE ANY ONE OF THE PUBLIC
POLLS INFILL.
OKAY CAN WE GET SOMEBODY
OPPOSING STUFF.
WE ARE YOU OKAY.
ANY OTHER COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.
GILLIGAN OF WE HAVE A MOTION
LANA CLOSE ON THAT.
IT JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH OF
SHERMAN IT LOOK YOU KNOW WE ALL
KNOW YOU HEARD THIS COMMITTEE
ENERGY EFFICIENCIES LIAM SINGLE
MOST THOUGHTFUL. THAT COST
EFFECTIVE WAY TO REDUCE GHGS AND
WE THINK THIS IS A BIG TAKES A
BIG BITE OF THE APPLE THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO PASSED MEMBERS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL.
WESTERN.
I WAS SO AYE MORALE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA CANNELLA
AYE HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG AYE
HILL HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN. STERN AYE BY THAT BY THAT
GUY WIENER.
SENATE WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO
SURRENDER THE POST JUST BRIEFLY
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR ANOTHER
AUTHOR ANOTHER BILL. LEN WILL
ASK YOU TO COME BACK.
THE OTHER OFFICER WHO COULD THAT
BE MISSED A LOT. WALDRON WORLD
AREAS.
SENATOR LOTT IF I CAN GET YOU
JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE AMENDMENTS
THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
AMENDMENTS WILL BE TAKING THOSE
AMERICAN.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS S. B. TEN THIRTEEN.
BACKSTOPS EPA'S REGULATION AND
PROVIDES INCENTIVES FOR
BUSINESSES TO TRANSITION THE
BETTER REFRIGERANTS THEREBY
REDUCING EMISSIONS OF HFC SUPER
PELO IN REFRIGERANTS. Y. WITH
THIS BILL WE ARE NARROWING IN ON
THE MOST IMPACTFUL A OF THE FAR
LEAST KNOWN POLLUTANTS WE ARE
OFTEN CRITICIZING GOVERNMENT FOR
HAVING OUR AGENCIES IN SILOS.
WITH NO COHESION A COLLABORATION
SB TEN THIRTEEN WE ARE ARE
TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. BY.
CREATING THESE INCENTIVES IN
THIS BILL WHICH INCLUDE BOTH THE
CPC AND THE A A RP. THE CPC HAS
EXISTING INCENTIVES TO IMPROVE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY ARE BILL WOULD
DIRECT A ARE BE. CONSENT O ICE
CURRENT FRIENDLY REFRIGERANT
SYSTEMS THESE AGENCY PROGRAM
SHOULD NOT CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT
WE WANT TO REINFORCE INCENTIVES
RATHER THAN CONFLICTING
INCENTIVE SO WE ARE.
IMPROVING COLLABORATION BETWEEN
THESE TWO AGENCIES.
AS YOU KNOW THE NEW
REFRIGERANTS SYSTEMS ARE OFTEN
MORE EFFICIENT. US INVESTING IN
INCENTIVES CAN BE A WIN WIN
SITUATION FOR EXAMPLE BOSCH AND
SAMSUNG ONE EPA ENERGY STAR WARS
IN TWENTY SIXTEEN FOR
MANUFACTURING CLEAN FRIENDLY AND
EFFICIENT ENERGY. EFFICIENT
HOUSEHOLD REFRIGERATORS.
DEPOSITIONS GONNA TELL YOU THAT
WE ARE NOT READY FOR THE
TRANSITION AND THAT WE NEED. A
TIME TO WAIT FOR THE EPA'S
ACTION ON REFRIGERANT CHARGE
SIZES. EPA WILL LIKELY RESOLVE
THIS CHARGE SIZE ISSUE THIS YEAR
AND WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE EPA
TWENTY TWENTY ONE DEADLINE SINCE
AT LEAST TWENTY SIXTEEN. GIVING
THEM FIVE YEARS TO DESIGN A TEST
BUILD THESE REFRIGERATORS IN
ADVANCE OF THE DEADLINE THE
SAFETY IN ENGINEERING
TECHNOLOGIES EXIST WITH ONE
POINT FIVE BILLION CLIMATE FROM
THE HOUSEHOLD REFRIGERATORS
ALREADY WORLDWIDE. DELAYING THE
PHASE DOWN WHAT I AND TIMELINES
WILL MEAN MORE AGE OF C.
EQUIPMENT WILL COME INTO THE
MARKETPLACE THE OPPOSITION WILL
ALSO SAY THAT ADOPTING FEDERAL
REGULATIONS. HERE IN CALIFORNIA
ARE TOO COMPLEX
BUT THE EPA RULES WENT THROUGH A
VERY PUBLIC PROCESS THE INDUSTRY
INCLUDING OUR OPPOSITION
NEGOTIATED. COMMENTED ON THE
TIME LINES IN TWENTY FIFTEEN.
CALIFORNIA DOES NOT NEED TO
RELITIGATE THAT EFFORT TO AIR BE
INDUSTRY KNEW ABOUT THE
DEADLINES AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR
THEM. WE ARE.
BEING COULD.
MEMBERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE
AGAIN TO IMPROVE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY AND USE CLIMATE FROM
THE REFRIGERANTS. TEN MILLION
HOUSEHOLD REFRIGERATORS ARE SOLD
IN THE U. S. EVERY YEAR THIS
BILL WILL HELP AVOID FUTURE HRC
A EMISSIONS ARE STRICTLY AS FOR
I PO THANK YOU KNOW SPEAKERS IN
SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR ALEX
JACKSON WITH AND ARE DO YOU SEE
AS THE SENATOR EXPLAIN THIS BILL
DOES TO CRITICAL THINGS ONE. IT
BACKSTOPS FEDERAL RULES THAT LAY
THE GROUNDWORK FOR A MANAGE
TRANSITION FROM VERY POTENT
CLIMATE POLLUTANTS KNOWN AS
AGENCIES TO CLIMATE FRIENDLY
ALTERNATIVES.
WE ARE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT
THAT PART OF THE BILL AND SENATE
EQ. MORE GERMANE TO THIS
COMMITTEE IS THE SECOND PART OF
THE BILL WHICH IS THE CARROT IT
DIRECTS OUR ENERGY AGENCIES TO
ASSESS AND INTEGRATE CLIMATE
FRIENDLY EQUIPMENT IN THEIR
ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS TO
STRETCH THE VALUE OUR PUBLIC
INVESTMENTS EVEN FURTHER. AND
CREATE AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM AIR
BE FOR INDUSTRY TO SET THEIR
HEIGHTS EVEN HIGHER.
WE BELIEVE BOTH COMPONENTS A
STICK AND A CARROT ARE NEEDED TO
SOLVE THIS PRESSING PROBLEM
POUND FOR POUND EACH OF SEIZE
OUR THOUSANDS OF TIMES MORE
POTENT AND TRAPPING HEAT IN THE
ATMOSPHERE. AND WERE STILL THEY
DO THEIR DAMAGE VERY QUICKLY AND
THEIR USE IS ON THE RISE BOTH IN
CALIFORNIA AND AROUND THE WORLD.
WHILE EPA WAS POISED TO MOVE
FORWARD FORCEFULLY.
WITH ITS SIGNIFICANT NEW
ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM KNOWN AS
SNAP.
IT HIT A SNAG AFTER A LAWSUIT
BROUGHT BY TWO FOREIGN OWNED
COMPANIES THAT I CHOSE TO PURSUE
RECALCITRANCE RATHER THAN
INNOVATION.
HAPPILY SEVERAL AMERICAN
COMPANIES INCLUDING HONEYWELL
REPRESENTED HERE ON OUR LEFT AS
TERMS IN THE OPPOSITE PATH. AND
ALREADY TO INVEST IN MAKING
CLIMATE SAFE ALTERNATIVES
AVAILABLE IN CALIFORNIA AND
AROUND THE WORLD.
WHAT WE NEED IS CERTAINTY? RIGHT
NOW WITH THE FEDERAL COURT
DECISION HANGING OVER US WE ARE
RISKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
INVESTMENTS THAT CAN BOTH
IMPROVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND
LOWER ENERGY BUILT FOR
CALIFORNIANS. AND ADDRESS THE
GROWING THREAT OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
S. B. THIRTEEN WILL KEEP THOSE
GOAL POSTS IN PLACE AND CONTINUE
PROVIDING A TEMPLATE FOR OTHER
STATES TO FOLLOW SUIT.
WE RESPECT WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS TOM
MORRIS I WORK FOR HONEYWELL'S
FLOORING PRODUCTS DIVISION.
HONEYWELL IS A LEADING PRODUCER
OF REFRIGERANTS BLOWING AGENTS
AN AEROSOL PROPELLANTS I'M HERE
TODAY TO EXPRESS HONEYWELL
SUPPORT FOR SENATE BILL TEN
THIRTEEN.
I'VE BEEN WITH HONEY WELL FOR
MORE THAN THIRTY THREE YEARS AND
HAVE LIVED THE COMMERCIALIZATION
OF SEVERAL INNOVATIVE
REFRIGERANTS INCLUDING R. FOR
TEN A WHICH IS USED IN AIR
CONDITIONERS AROUND THE WORLD.
MORE RECENTLY I LED THE
INTRODUCTION OF HF A ONE TWO
THREE FOUR ONE HALF. REFRIGERANT
WITH THE GLOBAL WARMING
POTENTIAL OF LESS THAN ONE WHICH
IS NOW IN USE IN MORE THAN FIFTY
MILLION CARS AROUND THE WORLD IN
AUTOMOBILE AIR CONDITIONING.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERABLE
ALTERNATIVES IS KEY TO ACHIEVING
CALIFORNIA'S CLIMATE AND ENERGY
GOALS
BUT BRINGS WITH IT THE ADDED
BENEFIT. OF DRIVING U. S.
INNOVATION AND LEADERSHIP
GLOBALLY.
HONEYWELL AND OTHERS HAVE
ALREADY SPENT OVER A BILLION
DOLLARS TO IDENTIFY AND
COMMERCIALIZE A RANGE OF ENERGY
EFFICIENT AND LOW GLOBAL WARMING
PRODUCTS THAT CAN REPLACE THE
HEIGHT GLOBAL WARMING PRODUCTS
IN USE TODAY. FOR A BROAD RANGE
OF APPLICATIONS.
FORTUNATELY THEY'RE ALREADY
MULTIPLE MANUFACTURES OFFERING
NEW PRODUCTS AND TECHNOLOGIES
THAT OFFER BOTH THE SAFETY AND
PERFORMANCE THAT IS NEEDED FOR
THESE APPLICATIONS WHILE HAVING
DRAMATICALLY LOWER IMPACT ON THE
CLIMATE.
THESE PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED
AND PROVEN OVER THE PAST OVER
YEARS AND DELIVER IMPROVED
ENERGY OF FLORENCE. PERFORMANCE
COMPARED TO PRODUCTS THEY'RE
REPLACING IN MANY CASES.
WE BELIEVE THAT SENATE BILL TEN
THIRTEEN IS APPROPRIATE AND
NECESSARY NEXT STEP TO IT
ACCELERATE THE ADOPTION
WIDESPREAD USE OF THESE
ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERABLE
PRODUCTS.
CALIFORNIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN
LEADER IN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES I
WANT TO THANK SENATOR LARA AND
THE OTHER BILL SPONSORS FOR
THEIR LEADERSHIP AND PROPOSING
THIS THANKLESS LEGISLATION THANK
THANK YOU MA'AM DID YOU WANNA.
I'M JAN WITH THE AMERICAN LUNG
ASSOCIATION IN CALIFORNIA WANT
EXPRESS THAT OUR OUR SUPPORT
FROM A HEALTH PERSPECTIVE
BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE
BIGGEST. ENVIRONMENT HEALTH
CONCERN OF OUR TIME AND OF
COURSE CLIMATE A CLIMATE
POLLUTION AND RESULTING EVENTS
LIKE AIR POLLUTION HEATWAVES
DROUGHT FLOODS OTHER STREAM
WEATHER EVENTS ARE TAKING A HUGE
PUBLIC HEALTH. HOLE AND.
AT THIS BILL TAKES THE NEXT
STEP OF AYE CONTROLLING HIGH
POTENCY G. ISSUES SO WE ARE
STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ON
NOT JUST THE LUNG ASSOCIATION
BUT HEALTH GROUPS ACROSS THE
STATE AND HEALTH EXPERTS ARE
STRONGLY SUPPORTING THIS
APPROACH. BOTH THE RESTRICTIONS
MEANS THE FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS
ON LAW AND ESTABLISHING THIS
INCENTIVE PROGRAM THANK YOU.
JASON VARGAS UNION OF CONCERNED
SCIENTISTS TRANSPORT LIKE.
TRANSMETA HALF OF KEN MORRIS
CHEMICAL COMPANY IN SUPPORT.
HE A CARD WITH AN RTC ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA CONSERVATION
VOTERS IN SUPPORT.
I MEAN TORN BEHALF OF
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT.
ALYSSA WARNER ON BEHALF OF
INGERSOLL RAND IN SUPPORT.
RIGHT ANYBODY NO POSITION.
IF WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR THE
PRESENT OPPOSITION.
KEVIN MESSNER MEDINA ASSOCIATION
HOME APPLIANCE MANUFACTURERS.
AND I JUST BE BRIEF HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
REFRIGERATORS HERE EVERYBODY'S
REFRIGERATORS IT'S IN THEIR HOME
THAT'S WHEN THE PRODUCT
REPRESENT ISSUE HERE AND I'M.
MECHANICAL ENGINEER MANUFACTURED
ENGINEER SO IT'S JUST.
WE ARE ACTUALLY A WILLING AND
COMMITTED INDUSTRY TO GO TO THE
ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS ISOBUTANE.
THAT'S A FLAMMABLE REFRIGERANT.
WE USE THAT THEIR SELFISH
REASONS FOR THAT WE USE THAT IN
REFRIGERATORS AROUND THE WORLD
SO WE WOULD RATHER HAVE ONE LINE
WITH ONE REFRIGERANT.
WE AS AN INDUSTRY PETITIONED EPA
TO ALLOW THE USE OF ISOBUTANE TO
MAKE IT LEGAL.
WE THAT AND CHAIRED THE U. L.
SAFETY TASK FORCE BECAUSE THE
FLANNEL REFRIGERANT IS ON
PEOPLE'S HOMES AND THEIR
FLAMMABLE IN THEIR NEAR OVENS
AND SO.
TO HAVE DO YOU WELL SAFETY
STANDARD BE ADJUSTED. IT ONLY
ALLOWED FIFTY SEVEN GRAMS OF
REFRIGERANTS AFLAME OVER THREE
YEARS IN THE U. S. THE REST THE
WORLD EUROPE ALLOWED TO HUNDRED
FIFTY GRAMS WHO'S JUST A
TECHNICAL BARRIER. HUNDRED FIFTY
GRAMS IN EUROPE FIFTY SEVEN
GRAMS IN THE U. S. AND THEY'RE
BIGGER REFRIGERATORS AND U. S.
SO WE NEED TO HARMONIZE THE
AMOUNT OF REFRIGERANT WE CAN USE
IN ORDER TO DO THIS PROPERLY
EFFICIENTLY. AND IN THE RIGHT
WAY. WE HAVE BEEN WANTING IT
WE'VE BEEN LEADING THAT FOR MANY
YEARS WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE WANT
TO GET THERE.
WE CAN'T GET THE FOR THEIR STILL
RESTRICTION OF FIFTY SEVEN GRAMS
IN THE U. S..
THIS BILL LOCKS IN THAT FIFTY
SEVEN GRAMS WHERE I THINK
EVERYONE AGREE WHEN YOU TO GET A
HUNDRED FIFTY GRAMS.
THE SENATOR. SAID THAT HE WE
THINKS THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN
EPA WILL ALLOW THIS USE.
I HOPE THAT'S THE CASE EP IS IN
A BIT OF.
HAS SOME ISSUES GOING ON RIGHT
NOW SO IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO
PREDICT AND YOU KNOW HOW EPA
COULD ACT WERE NOT COMFORTABLE
MAKING THAT PREDICTION WE NEED
THAT CHARGE SIZE INCREASED.
THEN WE CAN START DOING THIS NOW
OR I SHOULD SAY CONTINUE DOING
THIS SEVENTY TO EIGHTY PERCENT
OF THE REFRIGERATORS WILL ARE
ALREADY TRANSITIONING WE'RE NOT
WAITING.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER BIGGER MORE
PROBLEMATIC REFRIGERATORS THAT
HAVE TO BE DONE WE JUST NEED
ANOTHER YEAR TO. THAT'S ALL
WE'RE SAYING THIS IS NOT THIS IS
NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON THE
ENVIRONMENT. WE JUST NEED
ANOTHER YEAR TO THIS LOCKS IN
THE DATE THAT WE'VE PETITIONED
EPA TO CHANGE WITHOUT AN
INCREASE IN THE CHARGE SIZE AND
IT'S JUST AN ENGINEERING PROBLEM.
WE WANT TO DO IT THIS IS A
BATTLE A FIGHT THAT WE DON'T
NEED TO BE EN AND WE'RE GETTING
CAUGHT UP IN THE LARGER ISSUES
THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR
EVERY SINGLE REFRIGERATOR COULD
BE IN.
AND THAT'S WHY WERE
UNFORTUNATELY HAVING TO OPPOSE
THIS.
OKAY THANK YOU TO ANYONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION.
AND MAYBE OUT A RACIST WHAT THE
AUTHOR AND IS THERE A REASON WE
HAVE TO AT THE FIFTY SEVEN BEAT
YOU INTO INTO CODE.
AND LOCK IT IN.
THE CASE MAY BE SOME CHANGES. Y.
WHY DO AS A STATE WE NEED TO.
LOCK THE SENATE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS POISED TO MAKE
SOME ADJUSTMENTS
YEAH HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THAT
MISTER CHAIR OUT JACKSON IN WITH
AN RTC AND I THINK.
OPTIMISTICALLY WE SHARE THE
INTENT OF OF A HAM AND MISTER
MEASURE. ABOUT NOT LOCKING IN A
SMALLER CHARGE SIZE WE'VE BEEN
WORKING TOGETHER EPA FOR THEM TO
LIFT THE RESTRICTION TO GO UP TO
HUNDRED FIFTY GRAMS.
I THINK THE THE DIFFERENCE HERE
IS WE JUST READ THE BILL
DIFFERENTLY SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN
WORK TOGETHER ON.
RECTIFYING THAT ANY AMBIGUITY
BASICALLY IN. SHORT TERMS WE
HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE LIST AND
UNACCEPTABLE LIST AND ACCEPTABLE
SUBJECT TO USE CONDITIONS LIST
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS ISOBUTANE
IS IT'S IT'S ON THAT.
CURRENTLY ACCEPTABLE SUBJECT TO
ANYWAY I ICM LOSING EVERYBODY
SAW STUFF THERE THAT I THINK THE.
.
I ASKED A QUESTION THE DEPTHS OF
ISOBUTANE ARE ARE NEVER.
NOTHING BUT NOT ENTERTAINING.
SO.
.
BUT ANYWAY I READ THE BILL IS
NECESSARILY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
LOCKED INTO THE BILL WE WANT TO
JUST LOCK IN WHAT'S ON THE
UNACCEPTABLE LIST AND IF THERE'S
SOME THERE'S NO REGRETS THERE
IT'S WILL BE GLAD TO WORK RIGHT
INTO JUST ARAFAT JUST A FOR THE
COVER THE INTERVIEW. ALREADY
ALREADY.
.
THE HAS THE FLEXIBILITY ON THIS
ISSUE AND THEY'VE CONFIRMED THAT
WITH US AS WELL OKAY JUST LONG
AS WE CAN MAKE IT. JUST TO BE
CLEAR THERE IS A PROVISION THAT
SAYS ALL CURRENT RESTRICTIONS
THAT ARE IN PLACE ARE MANDATED
TO HAPPEN THERE'S PROVISION DR
IF THEY CHANGE THE BILL IS
FLEXIBLE TO THAT.
SO WHATEVER CURRENT RESTRICTIONS
NO NO BECAUSE THE RESTRICTIONS
ARE LOCKED IN AS THEY WERE
INTRODUCED THAT DAY BEFORE TRUMP
GOT ELECTED AS PROOFS TORN IN
ITS PRESIDENT SO. THEY CAN'T
CHANGE IT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES
THE FIFTY SEVEN GRAMS THAT WAS
IN PLACE ON JANUARY NINETEENTH
THIS BILL WOULD PREVENT CAR
BOLLYWOOD WHAT I DON'T WANT TO
DO IS HAVE A DEBATE HERE. OKAY
WHAT WE COULD DO WAS KIND OF.
WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT.
IT'S NOT THAT I WILL WORSE WILL
GET US IS TERRIFYING OKAY THANK
YOU.
VERY WELL.
DID YOU WANNA MAKE ANY CLOSING
COMMENTS AT THANK YOU MEMBERS IN
AND AGAIN YOU KNOW JUST TO
REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY
WE WE'RE OPPOSED TO A DELAY. A
DELAY IS ESSENTIALLY EQUIVALENT
TO A TWELVE THOUSAND CARS BACK
ON THE ROAD ACCORDING TO A OUR
VIEWS CALCULATIONS THIS IS A
SIGNIFICANT. OUR CONTRIBUTION TO.
CLOUD THE CURRENT.
I ISSUES THAT WE HAVE FACING US
IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENT SO
STEP YES BUT I DON'T THINK YOU.
AND ALLOWS FOR MOTION COMMITTEE
WE HAVE A MOTION CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL TO PASS AS
AMENDMENTS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
HUESO AYE HUESO AYE MORALE
BRADFORD AYE BRADFORD AYE
CANNELLA. CANNELLA NO HERTZBERG.
HERTZBERG AYE HILL HILL AYE
MCGUIRE SKINNER.
WIENER AYE STERN.
FIGHT ACT BY ACT NO WIENER.
ALL THE ROLE OF THE FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS ACCUSED HER MEMBERS
THANK YOU I WILL ASK.
CENTER HERTZBERG TO COME BACK
FOR HIS.
NEXT ELEVEN THIRTY SIX.
RESOURCE ADEQUACY REQUIREMENTS
FOR ELECTRICITY AND LOAD SERVING
ENTITIES.
SENATOR.
OKAY. THANK YOU.
ON.
YEAH.
IN MY LAST TOUR OF DUTY IN THIS.
BUILDING.
WE HAVE ENERGY CRISIS AND WE DID
A LOT OF THINGS.
TO RESPOND TO THE ENERGY CRISIS.
WE.
YOU HOW WE STARTED MOVING
TOWARD RENEWABLES BECAUSE WE
DIDN'T WANT TO JUST RELY ON THE
OLD SYSTEM. AND WE ALSO PUT IN
PLACE THIS NOTION OF RESOURCE
ADEQUACY.
THE IDEA THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE AVOIDED OTHER
ENERGY CRISIS OTHER BLACK OUT.
BY REQUIRING.
THESE SERVICE PROVIDERS TO TELL
US IN ADVANCE.
PLANET ADVANCE.
CALM WHAT THOSE RESOURCES WERE
THE IDEA OF RESOURCE ADVOCACY
PROGRAM I. A ONE OF OUR GREAT
FRIENDS IN THE OLD DAYS MIKE
FLORIO THE EX COMMISSIONER SAID.
THAT EVEN IN HIS NEW WORK US
LIKE CRAZY EVEN A HIGH LEVEL
SUMMARY OF CALIFORNIA'S RESOURCE
ADDIS YOU ARE A PROGRAM WE CALL
THAT IS RIFE WITH ACRONYMS TERMS
OF ARTS. CUSTOMS AND CONVENTIONS
SO GET READY HERE'S WHAT THE
PROGRAM IS IF YOU CAN LISTEN TO
THIS THE PROGRAM IS ADMINISTERED
BY THE P. UC IN CONSULTATION
WITH THE AYE IS SO WITH THE
INPUT OF THE C. E. C.. AND IT IT
IT DEALS WITH LSE'S HAVING
SUFFICIENT CAPACITY TO MEET THE
DEMAND AND SERVICE TERRITORY TO
MAINTAIN SYSTEMS. OF LOCAL AREA
WERE RELIABILITY.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS IF YOU CAN
UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS
BASICALLY THE IDEA IS. WAS TO
BUILD AND RETAIN POWER PLANTS
THAT WE NEVER HAD A SHORTAGE
THAT WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER
BLACKOUT.
OR BROWN AS WE HAD IN THOSE DAYS
WHICH HAS BEEN THE CASE.
BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE MADE A TON
THE CHANGES IN THE LAW.
WHAT KINDS OF BY ALL KINDS OF
NEW CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO
RENEW ABILITY WITH RESPECT TO
NEW STANDARDS AND THE LIKE AND
WE HAVE NOT UPDATED THE NOTION
OF RESOURCE ADEQUACY?
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS
MEASURES A FIRST STEP STARTED AS
HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION A FEW
OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF THE YOU
SEE.
TO BE ABLE TO PULL THE
STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER. AND TO BE
ABLE TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT HOW
DO WE DEFINE THAT GIVEN THE NEW
WORLD ORDER IN WHICH WE LIVE IT.
WHEN I WAS HERE BACK IN THE OLD
DAYS WE STARTED OF FLEXURE POWER
PROGRAM BECAUSE WE WANTED PEOPLE
TO TURN THOSE REFRIGERATORS
OFFER OF THOSE IT ES UN ALL
THOSE VARIOUS THINGS IN THE
MIDDLE THE DAY. NOW WE WANT YOU
TO TURN ON AS SOLAR ENERGY IS
WORK AND IN THOSE WINDOWS SPENT
ON THE TURBINES. AND WORD AND
THE CAL I SO IS TAKING POWER AND
HAVING TESTS
YET PAY PEOPLE TO TAKE IT
BECAUSE AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE
DAY.
WE ARE PRODUCING TOO MUCH POWER
IF YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT IT'S
NOT THAT YOU GET IT CHEAPER.
IT'S THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO PAY
PEOPLE FOR IT WE'VE GOT TURBINES WE GOT RULES THAT TURNED UPSIDE
DOWN. THE WHOLE WORLD IS GONE WE
BECAUSE WE HAVE ENGAGED IN A
THOUSAND NEW LAWS AND WE'RE
TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AT THE
CORE OF IT. IS THIS NOTION OF
RESOURCE ADEQUACY IS WE'VE START
IMPORTING ALL THESE VARIOUS WAYS
TO CREATE.
STORE DEAL WITH ENERGY THE
NOTION IS WE NEED TO HAVE A
LARGER FRAMEWORK TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE PUBLIC IS SERVED THAT'S
WHAT THIS BILL DOES THAT'S WE'RE
TRYING TO DO WITH RESPECT TO
THIS. STARTING THIS DISCUSSION
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED FOR TWENTY
YEARS.
WE GOT TO YOU MARTY GLANCE GUY
HERE TO TALK AND BE WITH THE
BILL.
SCIENCE GUY THANKS.
LET ME CARE MEMBERS LANDSCAPE
DIVERSE BUT THEY YOU KNOW
CONCERNED SCIENTISTS AND THAT AS.
COMMITTEE KNOWS.
THAT THE STATE BRINGS ONLINE
GREATER QUANTITIES OF CLEAN
RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THE ELECTRICITY SYSTEM WILL
NEED TO BECOME MORE FEXIBLE AND
DYNAMIC.
AND IF WE SIMPLY REPLIED RELY
UPON NATURAL GAS GENERATION
RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THIS GOOD
FLEXIBILITY. WILL NOT ONLY
FAILED TO ACHIEVE AYE GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSION REDUCTION GOALS. WE
RISKUNNECESSARILY EXACERBATING
AIR POLLUTION IN THE STATE AND
COULD MISS THE OPPORTUNITY. TO
UTILIZE MORE COST EFFECTIVE
SOLUTIONS TO MAINTAIN GRID
RELIABILITY.
THEREFORE IT IS IMPORTANT.
START FOCUSING ON HOW CARBON
FREE TECHNOLOGIES LIKE
RENEWABLES STORAGE IN MODE
SHIFTING.
CAN PROVIDE ALL THE DIFFERENT
SERVICES THAT PROVIDE A SAFE AND
RELIABLE INTEREST THE SERVICE
INCLUDING.
RESOURCE ADVOCACY PROGRAM.
AND SO YOU SEE I SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE IT GIVES THE P. YOU
SEE CLEAR AUTHORITY TO HARMONIZE
ITS RESPONSIBILITY. TO ENSURE
RESOURCE ADEQUACY
WITH THE STATE OTHER OBJECTIVES
WHICH ARE TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS TO LEVELS
CONSISTENT WITH S. B. THIRTY TWO
REQUIREMENTS.
IN CRITERIA AIR POLLUTION IN DID
MANAGE COMMUNITIES.
AT THE DETAILS OF THIS HAVE
HOUSE WILL BE DONE WILL OF
COURSE BE WORKED OUT OF A STEEP
YOU SEE WE THINK THE BILL ALLOWS
THAT TO HAPPEN.
THANK YOU.
SURE MEMBERS JOB WHAT WEEKLY
POWER CAMPAIGN FOR SO I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR TAKING ON A
TOUGH SUBJECT OF THIS IS WHERE.
THE MONEY IS IS RESOURCE
ADEQUACY OF MORE THAN A BILLION
DOLLARS ABOUT A MARKET COSTS ARE
COMING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND
IT'S WHERE THE TIMES ARE IN
TERMS OUR GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS AND AIR POLLUTION.
ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR
A REALLY GOOD ANALYSIS THAT
EXPLAINS A REALLY COMPLICATED.
HISTORY OF SET OF ISSUES AND A
WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT THANK.
CARE MEMBERS REBEKAH LEE ON
BEHALF OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON. A WE DON'T HAVE A
POSITION ON THIS BILL HOWEVER A
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS VERY
THOUGHTFUL COMPETITION FORWARD.
THE BILL IS SIMPLE BUT THE
SUBJECT MATTER IS NOT AND WE
LOOK FOR LOOK FORWARD TO A
HAVING MORE FEATURE DIALOGUE
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY IN
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL.
NONE HAS BEEN US SUBMITTED BUT
IF I CAN JUST.
.
YOU KNOW.
.
HOW? WOULD I LOOK AT THIS BILL I
LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS THE
QUESTION WILL BE WHEN DO WE KNOW
WE'VE. MET THE OBJECTIVES OF
YOUR BILL THE IS THIS REALLY
JUST A CONVERSATION ARE THOSE IS
A CPUC SUPPOSED TO COME BACK.
WITH THE RESULT I MEAN.
BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE
BEHOLDER.
HARMONY MEANS THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL
BILL YEAH.
I'M HOLDING THE LOG POWER AND
GET TO MY QUESTION IS. SHIPMENT.
YOU KNOW.
.
EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES
IN THE MARKETPLACE.
IN THE GENERATION.
SCENE.
WHEN DO WE KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO.
THAT
SWEET SPOT THEY LOOKING FOR THE
BILL DOESN'T REALLY SET OUT
SPECIFIC GOALS OTHER THAN
ACHIEVING HARMONY BUT EVERYONE
HAS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT.
WHAT HARMONY IS?
SO WHY I MEAN WHAT HOW WILL YOU
KNOW WE'VE WE'VE.
THIS BILL HAS.
.
COMMITTED SUBJECTIVE SHOULD BE
SIGNED SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE A
NOTICE YOUR QUESTION LOOK THE
THE UNDERLYING. FRAMEWORK OF
THIS MEASURE IS THIS IS ONE OF
THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID
LURKING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME
WE'VE CONTINUALLY CHANGED OUT
THE SYSTEM WE'VE GOT. YOU KNOW
IF PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE
FACE BEFORE NANA IN THE GLOBAL
SPACE LONG TERM VERSUS SHORT
TERM CONTRACTS FOR X. INVOLVE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE I SO ROLLERS
SO THAT THE INITIAL STEP WAS
WHICH.
PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE HAPPY ABOUT
THAT LEASE TO ADDRESSING IT I
DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER
AFFORD NOW I THINK IT'S A FAIR
OBSERVATION.
THE GOOD NEWS THE BAD NEWS IS WE
DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER THE GOOD
NEWS WE GOT MORE TIME THE
PROCESS TO GET THERE ON HAPPY
THEY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
CHAIR IN THIS COMMITTEE. IT IN
THAT REGARD BUT IT'S A IT IS
pA LOT OF ENERGY A LOT OF
INTEREST AMONG A LOT OF GROUPS
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE. BUT I I THINK THAT THE THE
MAIN FRAME OF THIS IS TO AT
LEAST GO TO THE P. YOU SEE IF
NOTHING ELSE. THAT SAYS LET'S
LOOK AT THE NEW WORLD ORDER IN
DEFINING RESOURCE ADEQUACY.
OKAY.
.
SENATOR SKINNER.
AND THANK YOU CHAIR I WANTED TO.
.
THANK THE SENATOR FOR.
BRINGING FORWARD THIS BILL I'M
AND I DO APPRECIATE THE TEARS
QUESTIONS.
BUT WHY I'M.
APPRECIATIVE OF THE BILL IS
THAT.
IT.
I DID A SIMILAR EFFORT THOUGH
NOT THE SAME LAST YEAR WITH MY.
LOW COST LOW CARBON PEAK
WHERE.
MY INTENT WAS TO TRY TO SIGNAL
THAT. WE WE KNOW THAT WE ARE
STONE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE
NEED NATURAL GAS RESOURCE WE
NEED A VARIETY OF RESOURCES BUT
AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN PLAN
INVESTMENTS.
CAN WE LOOK TO.
GIVEN OUR TYPE VERY AMBITIOUS
CLIMB PROTECTION GOALS CAN WE
LOOK AT.
.
THE FACT OF.
EFFECTIVE MEANING IN TERMS OF
ACTUAL DELIVERY AND COST
EFFECTIVE WAYS.
TO MEET OUR NEEDS WHETHER PEAK
OR IN THIS CASE.
RELIABILITY.
IN LOAD SERVING.
WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE NEW
INVESTMENTS IN FOSSIL GENERATION.
AND I THINK BE FROM MY POINT OF
VIEW. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE IT WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE
OR LOAD SERVING ENTITIES AND ARE
PLANNING ENTITIES LOOK AGAIN OUT
WHETHER WE HAVE MADE THE
APPROPRIATE INVESTMENTS IN FOR
EXAMPLE. EFFICIENCY.
OR OTHER STONE ARYAN I'M NOT
JUST GENERATIONS SO NOT JUST THE
EXPANSION OF SAY RENEWABLE BUT.
WHAT OTHER?
?
TOOLS ARE AT OUR ACCESS TO HELP
US GET.
THE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WE
HAVE.
WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPAND IN
THIS OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING TO
THE FUTURE IT'S NOT GONNA STOP
THE USE OF. OUR THE THE
GENERATION THAT WE ARE NOW
RELYING ON BUT AS WE LOOK INTO
THE FUTURE SO. I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT
GIVEN OUR OTHER TYPE OF SCHOOLS.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO GOOD THAT
IT DOESN'T HAVE SPUR
SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OR
PERCENTAGES BECAUSE WE DON'T
KNOW YET AND SO I LIKE THE
DIRECTION OF JUST GIVING THE
SPACE TO HAVE ON THE PLANET. SO
THANK YOU THANK YOU AN ARM OF
THE BILL OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION.
CLERK PLEASE A DID YOU WANNA
MAKE INCLUDES COMMENTS JUDGE
TELLING HIM DON'T JUST ONE THING
I DON'T THINK I STRESSED ENOUGH
WAS THE NOTION OF MARKET
STABILITY. BECAUSE THAT REALLY
IS THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS IF WE
DID NOTHING MORE THAN JUST ASK
THE P. YOU SEE. TO LOOK AT THE
AT THAT A RESOURCE ADEQUACY
UPDATED WITH RESPECT TO THIS THE
THE THESE. MIX OF SOURCES THAT
WE'VE GOT GREAT RESOURCE
ADEQUACY I THINK WHAT YOU'RE
GONNA GET IS THE HARD QUESTION.
OF ALL THESE FACILITIES TO GET
YOU KNOW HAVE ALL THE SMALL
SHORT TERM CONTRACTS CAN THEY
GET A LONGER TERM CONTRACT HOW
DOES THAT WORK. IN THE FINANCE
THEIR FACILITIES THIS IS IS THAT
WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ALL
OF THE THE THE FOCUS THAT HAS
BEEN SCATTERED ALL OVER THE
PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH
NEWNESS.
FOR NEW IDEAS AND STUFF IN THE
MARKET THAT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE
SOME LEVELS OF PROBLEMS AND I
THINK WE GOT TO KIND OF REVISIT
THE BASICS.
AND THIS WILL GIVE US A MARKET
STABILITY THE PROCESS FOR A VOTE
THANK.
CLICK PLEASE CALL.
THE ROLE WE HAVE PASSED TO
APPROACH.
HUESO.
I WAS SO AYE MORALE BRADFORD.
CANNELLA AYE CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG AYE HILL.
HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE STERN. STERN I'VE
I'D ASK. FIGHT A GUY WIENER.
NOW WILL TAKE.
SENATOR SCANNERS BILL ARE
REGARDING. GREEN HYDROGEN.
CENTER SKINNER WHEN YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU TERRY MEMBERS
SO SB THIRTEEN SIXTY NINE
FOLLOWS A THEME. THAT WE HAVE
BEEN ENGAGED IN. IN THE
COMMITTEE FOR SOME TIME NOW
WHICH IS.
REALIZING THAT WE HAVE.
AS OUR GOALS TO GENERATE MORE
OF OUR ELECTRICITY FROM
RENEWABLE ENERGY. THAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT WAYS TO INTEGRATE
THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY INTO OUR
GRID AND OF COURSE WE'VE ALREADY
MADE POLICIES ON STORAGE SO WE
KNOW THAT STORAGE CAN HELP.
NOW HYDROGEN SO FAR HYDROGEN
STORAGE IS NOT YET PART OF THAT
EQUATION.
AND OUR SOLAR AND WIND ENERGY
CAN BE USED TO POWER A PROCESS
THAT BREAKS APART WATER TO MAKE
HYDROGEN. THE HYDROGEN THEN CN
BE STORED AS A GAS TO THEN BE
USED WHEN NEEDED WHAT FOR
EXAMPLE AS A TRANSPORTATION FUEL.
OR TO POWER FUEL CELL.
AND SO WHAT S. B. THREE THIRTEEN
SIXTY NINE DOES IS PROVIDES A
DEFINITION FOR THIS NEW FORM OF
STORAGE CLEAN HYDROGEN.
AND IT DIRECTS THE PC TO DEPLOY
UP TO THREE PROJECTS ORIGINALLY
MY A BILL CARE HAD A LARGER
NUMBER OF PROJECTS BUT I'M
TAKING THE COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS.
TO HAVE IT DOWN TO THREE DUE TO
NOT WANTING TO CREATE UNDUE RATE
PEER PRESSURE.
SO WOULD DEPLOY UP TO THREE
PROJETS TO DEMONSTRATE HOW TO
INTEGRATE CLEAN HYDROGEN INTO
THE GRID.
I'M THE OTHER AMENDMENTS I'M
TAKING OUR. A CLEAR FINE AT THE
PILOTS CAN BE OWNED BY A THIRD
PARTY AND NOT ONLY YOU UTILITY.
AND THEN THAT ADDITIONALLY THAT.
THIS ISN'T SO MUCH COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT BUT RATHER THE
OPENNESS WHICH I'VE DISCUSSED
WITH THE COMMITTEE.
TO.
HAVE BE QUIET HAVE THE NUMBER
OF PILOTS EXPAND IF A RB WERE TO
PROVIDE FUNDING SO NOT FROM
REPAIR FUNDS.
ANSWER WOULD LIKE NOW TO HAVE
MIGHT WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
ATTEST BY.
HI THANK YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
TO THIS COMMITTEE MONEY WAS
JACK BRAUER I M. WITH THE
ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF THE
NATIONAL FUEL CELL RESEARCH
CENTER AT UC IRVINE. I'M ALSO
PROFESSOR IN MECHANICAL AND
AEROSPACE CIVIL ENVIRONMENTAL
ENGINEERING THEIR.
I'VE BEEN STUDYING THE RENEWABLE
AND ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES FOR OVER TWENTY
YEARS ESPECIALLY FOCUSING ON
ELECTROCHEMICAL ENERGY
CONVERSION TECHNOLOGIES.
AND I'VE STUDIED BEES DOT
TECHNOLOGIES ESPECIALLY AS THEY
CAN COMPLEMENT WIND AND SOLAR
POWER THESE INCLUDE BATTERIES.
FUEL CELLS AND ELECTROLYTES XERS.
AND I FOUND THAT BATTERIES WORK
BEST IN SOME ENERGY STORAGE
APPLICATIONS LIKE SHORTER
DURATION STORAGE.
FAST DYNAMICS
CARS. AND THINGS LIKE
ELECTRONICS AS WE KNOW.
BUT THAT HYDROGEN WILL WORK
BETTER IN MANY OTHER
CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THIS INCLUDES THINGS LIKE
pAMOUNTS OF STORAGE OR STORAGE
THAT HAS TO BE SEASONAL OR SO.
AND I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO
ACTUALLY TESTED THIS TECHNOLOGY
EVEN COMMERCIAL ELECTROLYSIS
SYSTEMS POWERED BY THE SUN.
TO MAKE HYDROGEN THAT CAN BE
USED FOR THIS LONG DURATION AND
MASSIVE ENERGY STORAGE AND I.
URGE THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS BILL
FROM CENTER SKINNER THANK YOU
JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF MY.
INFORMATION IS ANYBODY OUT THERE
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL.
ANYONE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY.
SO.
FAIR TO SAY THAT.
GOOD CHANCE WAS A GOOD CHANCE WE
MIGHT PASS.
YEAH BY.
THANK YOU.
.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS AYE JEFFREY IT'S A
PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY TO
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY APPEAR TO
APPEAR BEFORE YOU.
I'M THE CHIEFSCIENTIST FOR
RENEWABLE FUELS AND ENERGY
STORAGE AT UC IRVINE. BUT AS
WELL AND CURRENTLY SERVING AS
THE CHAIR OF THE CALIFORNIA
HYDROGEN BUSINESS COUNCIL.
ON BEHALF OF BOTH ORGANIZATIONS
I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY VOICING
STRONG SUPPORT.
FOR SENATOR SCANNERS PROPOSAL.
AB AS PROFESSOR BROWER MENTIONED
ELECTRIC ELECTROLYTIC HYDROGEN
CAN PLAY KEY ROLE IN THE ENERGY
SYSTEM.
THE FUTURE.
BE BRIEF YOUR ALL MENTION A
COUPLE OF THINGS.
IN ADDITION NO IN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN. THERE WERE FOUR
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY GIGAWATT
HOURS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY
CURTAILED.
A BASED ON THE FOUR OF THE.
RESOURCE PLANNING TO OF THE
CPUC AT A SIXTY PERCENT
RENEWABLE LEVEL WHICH IS WHERE
WILL BE IN TWENTY THIRTY. THAT
WILL BE A FACTOR OF TEN HIGHER
ABOUT FIFTY FIVE HUNDRED
GIGAWATT HOURS AND EIGHTY
PERCENT. DOUBLE THAT.
SO THIS RESOURCE PROVIDES AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A GOOD
RENEWAL BE USE.
OF THAT RESOURCE.
AND THOSE FORECASTER EVEN AFTER
WE DEPLOYED FLEXIBLE LOAD AND
STORAGE.
SO ON BEHALF OF.
I GIBBES COUNSEL YOU SEE I'D
LIKE TO AGAIN EXPRESS MY STRONG
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. THANK YOU
COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
CENTER CANNELLA INSERT
HERTZBERG YES THANK YOU I'M NOT
A HER POSITION WITH THE
AMENDMENTS ARE I SEE IN THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS.
THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE
FUNDING OF THE ETHNIC
PROGRAMMING HAVE THE CDC AND SEE
IF YOU SEE TRY TO FIND FUNDING.
FROM OTHER AREAS IS THAT CORRECT
THEY'RE WRITTEN RIGHT THERE IN
THE.
WELL THAT ONE REVIEW THOSE WALDO
WE CAN GET HURT THANK YOU CENTER
HERTZBERG.
YEAH I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU I
THINK I LOVE TO BE ACT AS A CO
AUTHOR SO INCLUDE ME. I I THINK
THIS IS GREAT STUFF I WORKED ON
THIS.
.
ACADEMY LONG TIME AGO BUT IT'S
IT'S IT'S IT REALLY IS THAT IT'S
SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE
FUTURE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE
GOING I MEAN LITERALLY USING.
WHICH I'VE DONE OR SOLAR TO
CREATE HYDROGEN POWER AND.
THE DIMENSIONS AND THE RESEARCH
IT'S LIKE SEEN AROUND THE WORLD
ON THE STUFF IS JUST
EXTRAORDINARY. BECAUSE
ULTIMATELY YOU WANT TO GET TO A
PERPETUAL MOTION PERPETUAL
ENERGY WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL ARE
OVER ADAM'S BASICALLY. BUT BUT
DIE IN IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE
GIANT STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION SO
I APPLIED REPORT REALLY
APPRECIATED.
AND WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED
OKAY VERY WELL.
COME BACK TO CENTER CANNELLA YOU.
WELL I I I SAW READ THE
AMENDMENTS AND IT LOOKS LIKE
ETHICS STILL POTENTIAL IS THAT
THE. THE.
AMENDMENT WAS TO CLARIFY THAT
THE THREE PILOTS WOULD BE FUNDED
FROM EPIC.
WELL HE SAYS EITHER EPIC OR
OTHER FUNDS RAISED THROUG GRF
VICTORY COULD BE YES GO TO BE TO
THE SEAT P. YOU SEE ARE THE CC
TO. TRY TO FIND FUNDS AND MAYBE
EPIC MAYBE OTHERS BUT I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THE EPIC PORTION
JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY AND.
AND THIS PROJECT WOULD BASICALLY
USE EVERY SENSE OF SURE THE TO
CC AND SEE IF YOU SEE WILL
CONSIDER THAT WHEN THEY'RE
LOOKING FOR THE.
ABOUT WITH THE BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU OF.
SO. YOU MAY HAVE A MOTIONS WHERE
LAOTIAN BY CENTER HERTZBERG.
AND THE MOTION IS TO PASS WITH
AMENDMENTS APPROPRIATIONS.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DID YOU WANNA MAKE ANY CLOSING
COMMENTS I WILL ADD SENATOR
EXPERTISE ACOSTA AND THANK YOU
AND COMMITTEE. UP FOR YOUR WORK
ON THE BILL AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AND I THANK YOU FOR.
LOOK PLEASE FEDERAL THE PATH OF
THE MEDICARE PREPARATIONS WESO.
I WAS SO AYE MORALE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA AYE
CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG AYE
HERTZBERG AYE HILL. HILL AYE
MCGUIRE MORE SKINNER.
I SKINNER AYE STERN I COULD
STERN I MIGHT ACT.
BYE BYE GUYS DO THE.
RIGHT ACT NO WIENER.
OKAY WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS AND I WANNA
ASK THE US SERGEANTS TO CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS WE WANT.
WE WANT THE WHOLE HOLDEN THE
ROLE OF THE NOT PRESENT SO IF
THAT THEY A FEW MINUTES TO GET
DOWN HERE.
AND IF WE CAN ALSO OTHER OFFICES
PARTNERS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH.
THE FIRST ITEM ITEM NUMBER ONE.
S. B. TEN THIRTEEN FAR CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE FIVE
TWO. MORALE MCGUIRE STERN.
STERN AYE WIENER.
SO WHO. WAS THE ONE WHO.
OKAY.
MAKE IT ON CALL LOW WHO KEEP
THEIR OPEN FOR NOW.
I WILL GO TO ITEM TWO. AS
PATERNITY CENTER NEWMAN CLIPLESS
COLLAPSE MEMBERS THEIR PASSES
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS KERN
BUT SEVEN ZERO. MORALE HERTZBERG
AYE HERTZBERG AYE MCGUIRE
SKINNER.
A TENTATIVE.
SKINNER AYE.
OKAY OF ITEM THREE. SB ELEVEN
THIRTY BUT ONE BY HERTZBERG LOOK
PLEASE CALL.
THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
THE PASS AMENITY APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT BUT SEVEN ZERO MORALE
MCGUIRE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE WIENER.
WE KEEP THE ROLE OPEN.
IRV.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
S. B. THIRTY FIVE. BY CENTER
BRADFORD.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS IT HAS CEMENTED TO
APPROPRIATIONS KERN VOTE SEVEN
ZERO MORALE MCGUIRE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE WIENER.
REPORTER AND FIVE PERSON
HERTZBERG ELEVEN THIRTY SIX
CLIPLESS COLLAPSE MEMBERS
THE PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS KERN
VOTE SEVEN ZERO MORALE. BRADFORD
AREN'T BRADFORD AYE MCGUIRE
WIENER.
IF THE ROLE OPEN.
ITEM SIX.
QUIRK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
S. B. THIRTEEN THIRTY EIGHT
HUESO THEIR PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS* VOTE FIVE
ZERO MORALE BRADFORD ON BRADFORD
AYE. HERTZBERG HERTZBERG AYE
HILL. HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER.
HONOR I.
OKAY OKAY ROLE OPEN PERHAPS
MEMBERS CIVIL GOOD I'M ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN EXTRA THEIR TEENS
FORTY SEVEN BY SENATOR STERN.
QUIRK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
IT HAS IS A MANAGER
APPROPRIATIONS KERN VOTE FOR ONE
MORALE BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG AYE HILL
KILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE.
WE'LL KEEP THE ROLE FOR FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS.
WILL GO TO ITEM EIGHT BY SENATOR
SKINNER S. B. THIRTEEN SIXTY
NINE.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
WITH HER REQUIRE AND.
.
WIENER OKAY THEN WILL GO TO THE
NEXT ONE.
ITEM NUMBER NINE.
VOICES CAN.
THAT. WAS THIS CONSENT.
NOW NO WEARING PUKKA ITEM NINE.
I AM HIGHNESS PETE
IS THAT THE.
S. B. THERE CAN SAY FORTY PASSES
AMENDED TO THE FLOOR CURRENT
VOTE FIVE ZERO MORALE HERTZBERG
FIVE EIGHT HERTZBERG AYE HILL.
HILL AYE MCGUIRE.
SKINNER. SKINNER AYE WIENER.
WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TEN WILL
KEEP THE ROLE OF AN ON THAT ONE
OF MOVED AT TEN. S. B. THIRTY
NINE NINE PER WIENER.
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS THEPASS
IS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
KERN VOTE THREE ZERO MORALE
BRADFORD.
CANNELLA.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG AYE HILL
HILL AYE MCGUIRE REQUIRE AYE
SKINNER. SKINNER AYE BIDAK.
WILL CLOSE ON HIS ABSENT WINNER.
THAT'S IT HERBAL CLOSE ROLAND
ITEM TEN OUR CORE.
BRADFORD IS A IS.
BRADFORD IS I.
IS IT CLOSE A LITTLE BRADFORD
AYE.
ITEM ELEVEN.
SP FOURTEEN THIRTY FOUR BY
LEYVA.
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
THE PASSES AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS KERN VOTE THREE
ONE MORALE BRADFORD. BRADFORD
AYE CANNELLA.
HERTZBERG.
HERTZBERG AYE HILL.
HILL AYE MCGUIRE AYE MCGUIRE AYE
SKINNER AYE. SKINNER AYE.
SO.
YEAH GOT WILL CLOSE TO ROLLING
ITEM ELEVEN.
S. B. FOURTEEN SEVENTY FOUR BY
HILL.
CLERK PLEASE COLLAPSE MEMBERS.
GIVE PASSED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
AMENDMENTS TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE SIX ZERO MORALE
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG AYE MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER SKINNER AYE
A WIENER.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE BUT PERHAPS
A MEMBERS.
.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET.
OF THE BILLS THAT.
.
SENATOR MAGUIRE'S NOT ON.
BEGINNING WITH THE ITEM NUMBER
ONE.
BY LARA.
S. B. TEN THIRTEEN. MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE.
KEEP IT OPEN.
AND TO.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY REQUIRE. WHERE
I?
WELL ITEM THREE.
S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY ONE MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE.
ITEM FOUR S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY
FIVE MCGUIRE. WHERE I?
WHEN FIVE S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY
SIX MCGUIRE. WHERE I?
ITEM SIX.
S. B. THIRTEEN THIRTY EIGHT
MCGUIRE. REQUIRE I.
SEVEN SP THIRTEEN FORTY SEVEN
MCGUIRE. WHERE I?
BUT A ME S. THIRTEEN SIXTY NINE
MCGUIRE.
I
WHERE I.
I AM NINE SB THIRTEEN SEVENTY
FOUR MCGUIRE SIDE WHERE I WAS
COMING.
OKAY AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO
HOLD THE ROLE OPEN AND THE
REMAINING BILLS UNDERSTAND
SOMEONE'S COMING DOWN
.
MY EMPLOYER.
OPEN THE RULE ON THE ONES.
AND ON ITEM ONE.
CLERK CALL THE UPS MEMBERS SP
TEN THIRTEEN WIENER AYE WIENER
AYE.
ON ITEM THREE.
S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY ONE WIENER.
I MEAN YOU'RE AYE.
NINE FOUR.
S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY FIVE WIENER
AYE WIENER AYE.
ON ITEM FIVE S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY
SIX.
WIENER AYE WIENER AYE NEW
CLOTHES RULED.
ANOTHER ITEM EIGHT.
S. B. THIRTEEN SIXTY NINE WIENER.
WIENER I WILL CLOSE ROLE.
ITEM NINE SB THIRTEEN SEVENTY
FOUR WIENER. WIENER AYE.
THOSE RURAL.
ON ITEM TWELVE. SP FOURTEEN
SEVENTY FOUR. AYE WIENER AYE.
OKAY WILL CALLED OF WOULD CLOSE
ROLL ALL THE BILLS ARE OUT. AND
OUR MEDIA SECURE