LATEST GERMAN WELCOME THIS IS
THE.
CALIFORNIA STATE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY UTILITIES.
AND COMMUNICATIONS WELCOME
EVERYBODY WILL GET ARMENIANS
STARTED WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM
THE WILL BEGIN.
AS.
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE
TO HEAR TESTIMONY ON THESE BILLS.
WE'RE GONNA FORGIVE HIM BEGIN
WITH S. B. NINE A ONE BY US
SENDER GOD.
BEFORE HE COMES COMES FORWARD.
I ALSO WANT TO MAKE AN
ANNOUNCEMENT THAT.
S. B. THIRTEEN FIFTY EIGHT.
IS THIS GOING TO BE ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR FOR THE MEETING
TODAY SO THAT BILL.
OF WILL NOT BE HER UNLESS IT'S
FULL FROM CONTENT COMMITTEE.
AND THAT IS THE ONLY BILL ON
CONSENT TODAY.
I'M PRIOR TO BEGINNING AT IN
THE SPIRIT OF OF THE
PRESENTATION ABOUT TO MAKE I
JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON
BEHALF.
OF OF THE.
.
COMMITTEE.
IN REGARDS TO RECENT EVENTS HERE
IN CALIFORNIA.
HAVING HAD EXPERIENCED.
SUCH A CATASTROPHIC YEAR RELATED
TO WILDFIRES.
WE HEAR A AS THE SENATE AND
SPECIAL IN THIS COMMITTEE ARE
VERY MINDFUL.
OF THE ENORMOUS CHALLENGES.
THAT THESE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES
ARE ARE GONNA BE FACING IN THE
UPCOMING YEAR.
MANY OF OUR OUR COLLEAGUES HERE
HAVE.
HAVE EXPRESSED.
.
THERE THEY'RE CONCERNED THESE
COMMUNITIES OF.
OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL THE
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN
AFFECTED ESPECIALLY THE FAT
FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST THEIR
LOVED ONES ARE HOMES FOR JOBS.
AND.
THEIR COMMUNITIES.
OBVIOUSLY THE INVESTIGATION
SURROUNDING THE BECAUSE.
OF THE NORTH BAY FIRES IN THE
THOMAS FIRES OR STILL UNFOLDING.
WE CAN ASSUME TO KNOW WHAT THE
CAUSE OF. OF THESE FIRES WAS BUT
WE WE HOPE THAT THOSE.
.
INVESTIGATIONS GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THE REASONS.
NONE THE LESS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE.
SOME VERY COMPLEX ISSUES
ASSOCIATED WITH LIABILITY THE
INSURANCE.
THE RAPE PAIR IMPACTS AND MANY
OTHER THINGS REGARDING OF THE
SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AS CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE ON A
SURE.
ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED THAT WE
ARE TAKING THESE MATTERS VERY
SERIOUSLY.
RECOGNIZING THAT OUR HEARING
TODAY IS STILL RELATIVELY.
EARLY IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
WE. ANTICIPATE.
THAT.
BOB.
THERE WILL BE CONTINUED.
DISCUSSIONS THE CITY ISSUES.
AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE
ADDRESSED IN THE. EARLY
LEGISLATION BUT THAT WE ARE
COMMITTED.
TO.
ADDRESSES SOME OF THESE
PROBLEMS.
THIS YEAR.BENEFIT IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS.
MY VOTES TODAY AND AND IN THE
NEXT FEW MONTHS ARE GOING TO BE
A SIGNAL FOR THE NEED.
FOR CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS ON
THESE ISSUES AND MY WILLINGNESS
TO WORK.
WHAT THE VARIOUS MEMBERS TO
ADVANCE THEIR BILLS?
IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WERE FOR THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA.
WITH ALL OUR ENERGY AND
ATTENTION.
THANK YOU MEMBERS NOW WE'RE
GONNA BEGIN.
WITH S. B. A TWENTY TWO I'M
SORRY I SB NINE TO ONE. IS
CENTERED DOT.
ITS CHAIRMAN MEMBERS S. B. NINE
OH ONE REQUIRES ELECTRIC
UTILITIES THE PREPARE A WILD
FIRE MITIGATION PLAN.
TO INCLUDE PROTOCOLS FOR
DETERMINING IF.
WHEN AND WHERE DID DE ENERGIZE A
POWER LINE AND DEACTIVATE RE
CLOSERS.
IN THE FACE OF A HIGH WIND
WHETHER IT THAT.
AND THE LAST TWO DECADES
CALIFORNIA'S BECOME TOO FAMILIAR
WITH WILDLAND FIRES THAT HAVE
SCORCHED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF ACRES AND DESTROYED HUNDREDS
EVEN THOUSANDS OF HOMES. AND
BUSINESSES PER A VET.
WILD FIRES HAVE DEVASTATING
IMPACTS IN THE COMMUNITY NOT TO
MENTION THE LOTS OF LIFE IN
SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL IMPACTS.
UTILITIES THEMSELVES.
THE RECENT WINE COUNTRY
WILDFIRES BECAUSE NAY ESTIMATED
TEN BILLION DOLLARS IN PROPERTY
DAMAGE. IN THE LOSS OF OVER
FORTY LIVES
THE TWO THOUSAND SEVEN WHICH
FIRE IN SAN DIEGO CASA ES DE G.
ANY MORE THAN TWO BILLION
DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENT PAYOUTS
ALONE.
WHERE WHILE LANCE UP BUT?
URBAN DEVELOPMENT THE SO CALLED
WILD LATIN WILDLAND URBAN
INTERFACE DOWN IN ARCANE POWER
LINES HAVE OFTEN BEEN IDENTIFIED.
AS A POINT OF WILDFIRE IGNITION.
RECENT ESTIMATES ARE THAT THREE
POINT SIX AMERICA MILLION
CALIFORNIA HOMES ARE NOW LOCATED
IN THE HIGHER RISK INTERFACE
AREAS AND THAT NUMBER IS GROWING.
IN RECOGNITION OF THE WILDFIRE
THREAT THAT A POWER LINE BE
PRESENT. AT LEAST ONE UTILITY
HAS TAKEN STEPS TO EVALUATE THE
RISK AND DE ENERGIZE A POWER
LINE IF NECESSARY. TO PROTECT
LIFE AND SAFETY.
S. D. GENIE HAS DEVELOPED A
COMPREHENSIVE SET OF PROTOCOLS
FOR DE ENERGIZING POWER LINES
AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE FOLLOWED
THOSE PROTOCOLS FOR THE LAST
SEVENTEEN YEARS.
EXCUSE ME LET ME LET ME MAKE
THAT POINT MORE CLEAR THEY
FOLLOWED THOSE PROTOCOLS AT
LEAST SEVENTEEN TIMES DURING
THAT TIME PERIOD.
HOWEVER DURING A RECENT HEARING
OF THE.
E. YOU AND SEEK SUBCOMMITTEE I
GAS ELECTRIC AND TRANSPORTATION
SAFETY CHAIRED BY SENATOR HILL.
IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE
PRACTICES OF THE THREE INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITIES REGARDING DE
ENERGIZING POWER LINES AND DE
ACTIVATING WE CLOSERS VARIED
SIGNIFICANTLY.
WELL ES DE GENIE HAS ROBUST
PROTOCOLS PGA ME HAD NONE AND SO
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON SEEM
TO BE A TWEENER.
GIVEN ARE GROWING KNOWLEDGE OF
RISK PROPOSED RISK POST. POSED
BY POWER LINES DURING HIGH WINDY
VENTS IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ALL
UTILITY SERVING DEVELOPMENT NEAR
WILD LANDS HAVE THESE PROTOCOLS
IN PLACE. AND THAT THEY ARE
PUBLIC AND TRANSPARENT.
THANKS TO SENATOR HILL.
CURRENT LAWS BIRD CALLS FOR
UTILITIES TO PREPARE WILD FIRE
MITIGATION PLANS.
NOW I KNOW WHAT S. B. NINE A ONE
SIMPLY SAYS THOSE PLANTS WHICH
ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS MUST
INCLUDE. PROTOCOLS PERTAINING TO
DE ENERGIZING POWERLINES
DEACTIVATING WE CLOSERS AND
COMMUNICATING TO UTILITY
CUSTOMERS. THAT A POWER LINE
THAT SERVES THEM MAYBE OUT OF
SERVICE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME
ALLOWING THE CUSTOMER TO PREPARE
FOR THAT EVENT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I FULLY
APPRECIATE THE DE ENERGIZING A
POWER LINE CREATES AN
INCONVENIENCE TO THE UTILITY
CUSTOMER.
BUT WITHOUT THESE PROTOCOLS IN
PLACE THE ALTERNATIVE TO DE
ENERGY THE ENERGY IS ASIAN MAY
LEAD TO THE UNTHINKABLE SUCH AS
WHICH WE ALL EXPERIENCED. IN THE
NORTH BAY LAST OCTOBER.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN FOR.
WE'RE GONNA ESTABLISH QUORUM.
SEC CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
HUESO.
HERE HUESO HERE MORALE HERE
MORALE HERE BRADFORD. BRADFORD
HERE CANNELLA HERE CANNELLA HERE
HERTZBERG HERE HERTZBERG HERE
HILL HERE HILL HERE MCGUIRE HERE
REQUIRE HERE SKINNER.
STERN.
HERE STERN HERE RIGHT ACT BIDAK
HERE WIENER.
WE HAVE A QUORUM THAT WILL GO TO.
TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT.
JERRY MEMBERS KEPT HOUSE WITH
SANDIA GAS ELECTRIC IS SENATOR
DODD NOTED WE DO HAVE A DE
ENERGIZING PLAN IN PLACE.
WE PUT THAT IN PLACE FOLLOWING
THE TWO THOUSAND SEVEN FIRES
THAT WE HAVE THE AMERICA'S
LARGEST UTILITY OWN WEATHER
NETWORK WITH OVER A HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY WEATHER STATIONS I KNOW
SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN TO
VISIT. ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT'S
AND SHOULD COME DOWN CA WE
COLLECT OVER TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND PIECES OF DATA DAILY.
AND WE MONITOR REAL TIME
ACTIVITIES EVERY TEN MINUTES.
WE SUPPORT AS BENIGN A ONE
BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO GIVE THE
UTILITIES FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE
THE DECISIONS IN REAL TIME FIFTY
ENERGIZED AS THE SENATOR NOTED.
IT IS NOT SOME THE WE DO LIGHTLY
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FIND
TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE IN.
CONTROLLING A MITIGATING AGAINST
WILDFIRES.
WELL SELECT THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND
OPENING A WE VIEW THIS AS PART
OF A PACKAGE OF COMPREHENSIVE
WILD FIRE MITIGATION.
A MEASURES THIS YEAR FOR
LEGISLATURE CONSIDER RESPIRABLE.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE ROBERT LLOYD WITH A
CALIFORNIA EDISON DIRECTOR RISK
MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON IS
PLEASED TO SUPPORT SB NO NO ONE
WHICH WOLD REQUIRE LOCAL
CORPORATIONS FOR INCLUDE
PROTOCOLS IN THEIR WELFARE.
MITIGATION PLANS DO YOU HAVE
TRIED LETTER CLIENTS AND DISABLE
WERE CLOSERS TO MITIGATE
WILDFIRE RISK.
THIS BILL ALLOWS UTILITIES THE
ABILITY TO RESPOND TO RAPIDLY
EVOLVING ELEMENTS INTO WAY
IMPORTANT FACTORS SUCH AS WIND
SPEED A RED FLAG CONDITIONS.
TO DETERMINE WHEN AND WHERE TO
DE ENERGIZED ELECTRICAL LINES.
S. E. HAS DEVELOPED A
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO
MITIGATING WELFARE RISKS BY
DISABLING AUTOMATICALLY CLOSERS
DURING RED FLAG CONDITIONS. AND
BY USING CORRECTIVE DE ENERGIZE
ATION WHEN CONDITIONS WARRANT
WHILE FOLLOWING PROTOCOLS AND
INCLUDE FREQUENT COMMUNICATIONS
WITH OUR CUSTOMERS. AND
RESPONDING TO WELFARE ADVANCES
THEY OCCUR.
FOR EXAMPLE S. E. APPLIED THIS
PRACTICE DURING A RED FLAG EVENT
IN DECEMBER TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
DUE TO A FORECAST OF UNUSUALLY
HIGH WINDS.
S. E. COORDINATED WITH FIRE
AGENCIES AND OTHER FIRST
RESPONDERS NOTIFIED CUSTOMERS
WITH SPECIAL ATTENTION PAID THE
CRITICAL CARE CUSTOMERS. PRIOR
TO THE ENERGIZING LINES IN THE
HEAVILY FORESTED IDYLLWILD AREA.
THIS BILL WOULD STRENGTHEN ES
EASE CURRENT EFFORTS STRIKE THE
RIGHT BALANCE OF SITTING ON THE
GENERAL FRAMEWORK WHILE ALSO
ALLOWING UTILITIES TO RESPOND TO
CHANGING ON THE GROUND
CONDITIONS.
TO THOSE FACED DURING A WILDFIRE
EVENT FOR THESE REASONS SD
SUPPORTS ES BANANA ONE AND ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE I'M STACY HEAT
WITH THEIR WORK WORLD COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA WE
REPRESENT THIRTY FIVE RURAL
COUNTIES STATEWIDE.
AND I WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF
SB NINE OH ONE THIS MORNING.
MANY OF OUR COMPANIES HAVE BEEN
DEALING WITH WHAT I ISSUES OF
HIGH SEVERITY WILDFIRE FOR MANY
YEARS NOW GOING ON A DECADE AND
MORE AND. AS THE WILDLAND URBAN
INTERFACE HAS SPREAD INTO LARGER
AREAS OF THE STATE WE REALIZED
THAT.
HI HI SEVERITY WILDFIRES ARE NO
LONGER JUST A TRADITIONALLY
RURAL ISSUE ANYMORE.
SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBER COUNTIES
THAT WERE IMPACTED PARTICULARLY
BY THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
WILDFIRES IN OCTOBER TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN HAD FORMALLY
REQUESTED POLICIES JUST AS
WHAT'S OUTLINED IN S. B. NINE A
ONE. FOR THE D. ENTERS ENERGIZE
ATION OF A POWER LINES BECAUSE
THEY BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE SAVED
NOT ONLY HOMES BUT POSSIBLY
LIVES AS WELL IN THOSE WILD
FIRES. AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD
TODAY WE ASK THAT YOU ARE WE ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE AT TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU WILL AST.
SUPPORTERS OF THE BILL COME
FORWARD STATE THEIR POSITION AND
FOR THE REPRESENTING.
AND THEIR NAMES.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN MY
NAME'S KEVIN DE SO I'M A VICE
PRESIDENT OF ELECTRIC ASSET
MANAGEMENT P. GENIE. A WE DO NOT
HAVE A FORMAL POSITION ON THIS
BILL HOWEVER WE SUPPORT AND LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
STATE ON BUILDING RESILIENCE.
INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE
COLLECTIVELY CONFRONT.
THE ESCALATING PACE AND
INTENSITY OF THE IMPACTS OF.
.
CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS
INCLUDING THOSE EVENTS
ASSOCIATED WITH.
TWENTY SEVENTEEN WILDFIRE THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS SCOTT WHICH OF THE HALF
THE CALIFORNIA COALITION OF
UTILITY EMPLOYEES IN THE STATE
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS REPRESENTING THE SEVENTY
FIVE THOUSAND MEN AND WOMEN THAT
OPERATE THE STATE'S. IOUS AND
PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITIES WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT S. B. NINE A
ONE WE SEE IT IS A PART OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE. OTHER
YOU'LL BE HEARING MUCH ABOUT
TODAY THANK YOU.
I LORNE GREENE LET WITH THE
CALIFORNIA CABLE AND
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION
OUR MEMBERS HAVEN'T TAKEN
OFFICIAL POSITION ON THE BILL
BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING
WITH OFF AUTHOR. AND GETTING
THEM NECESSARY AMENDMENTS FOR
OUR.
MEMBERS WHO OPERATE CRITICAL
TELECOMMUNICATIONS
INFRASTRUCTURE.
I CHARITY IS REPRESENTING
OFFICER REPAIR ADVOCATES WERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB NINE ONE
THINK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER SUPPORTERS
OF THE BILL.
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY OUT THERE
FLAWS IN THE BILL. OKAY DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE
DISCUSSION.
I CARE.
TO CARE.
YES SIR NOT OPPOSING BUT KIND OF
ITS WIENER ROLLED AWAY. NON
GILBERT ON BEHALF OF TRINITY
PUBLIC UTILITIES DISTRICT WHERE
SMALL DISTRICT OF INFINITY
COUNTY.
SMALL UTILITY DO NOT AND WE'VE
BEEN WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR
STAFF VERY WELL APPRECIATE THE
TIME.
UP AS A SMALL UTILITY WE DON'T
HAVE REDUNDANCIES WE DON'T HAVE
LOOPED LINES. SO IF IF WE DE
ENERGIZE A LINE FOR SURE.
HOUSEHOLDS WILL NOT HAVE POWER
IN ALL OUR HOUSEHOLDS ARE ON
WELL WATER. SO THEY WILL NOT
HAVE WATER AMONG OTHER THINGS.
WE HAVE A FEW OTHER CONCERNS
THOSE CONCERNS ARE REALLY ALL
IDENTIFIED. IN YOUR ANALYSIS
WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE NEED TO
BALANCE RISKS AND THAT'S WHAT WE
WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
OUT HIM THANK YOU THAT.
AND ANYONE ELSE HIGHER WITH THE
BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND I
SUPPORT THE BILL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
SENATOR HILL THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR IT AND I WANT TO REALLY
THANK AND CONGRATULATE THE
AUTHOR SENATOR DODD HAS DONE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK SINCE
THE TRAGEDIES OF LAST OCTOBER IN
IN HIS DISTRICT AND. HE WAS A
QUICK STUDY AND.
FIGURED OUT WHERE SOME OF THE
PROBLEMS WERE AND ARE IN.
SAYS THAT TAKEN FROM YOUR SHIP
ROLE IN THIS THAT THIS IS. MY
CONGRATULATIONS.
BUT THE APPROPRIATE TIME THANK
YOU AND.
.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
PROPOSED IN THE ANALYSIS.
OKAY.
SO THE THE MOTION IS WITH HIM
AND MY SECURE SENATOR HILL QUICK
COMMENT. CENTER MCGUIRE THANK
YOU SO MUCH I DO WANT TO THANK
YOU SO MUCH TO THE GOOD TENER
FROM NAPA FOR ALL OF HIS WORK ON
THIS IS HAS BEEN IN. ISSUE THAT
HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON.
ALMOST SINCE OCTOBER EIGHTH IN
ONE OF THE FIRST ITEMS AND IT
SAID THAT WE NEED TO BE TO DO
WOULD BE TO KEEP COMMUNITY SAY.
ONE ITEM AND I DO KNOW THAT.
SENATORS COMMITTED TO THIS
THERE IS A UNIQUE SITUATION UP
IN A VERY SMALL COUNTY I TRINITY
BUT THEY HAVE ONE LINE AND IF
YOU CENTURY ONE LINE OUT.
AND.
VERY UNIQUE TO THE GREAT
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AYE IN KNOW THAT HE'S
COMMITTED TO CONTINUE WORK ON
THIS BUT IT'S A VERY UNIQUE
SITUATION THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
DISTRICT UP THERE. AYE IT WOULD
HOPE THAT WE BE ABLE TO COME TO
SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION ON THOSE
AMENDMENTS.
YEAH THEY WERE THEY.
YET MISTER GILBERT WAS SPEAKING.
VERY WELL DID YOU WANNA MAKE ANY
CLOSING COMMENTS RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE OKAY QUIRK
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS WESO AYE HUESO
AYE MORALITY AYE MORRELL AYE
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA.
HERTZBERG FIGHT HERTZBERG AYE
HILL. HILL AYE MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER AND STERN.
STERN I'VE I'D ACT LIKE BY A GUY
WIENER.
THE BILL HAS ENOUGH VOTES
WHEN WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN
FRACTION MEMBERS.
YOU ARE PRESENT IN EIGHTY EIGHT.
YES MISTER CHAIRMAN.
NOW MISTER CHAIRMAN THE MEMBERS
OF ALREADY COMMENTED ON HOW
DEVASTATING WILDFIRES CAN CAN BE
IN MY PRESENTATION OF SB NOT A
WIDE. SO THERE'S NO NEED THERE
REPEAT MYSELF.
IN THAT.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY EIGHT WHICH I
NOW PRESENT TO YOU WOULD
ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS FOR
UTILITIES TO PROTECT AGAINST
DAMAGE. FROM STORMS FLOODS MUD
SLIDES EARTHQUAKES AND WILDFIRES.
AS WELL AS INVEST IN
INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THAT
WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE.
THE RISK OF IGNITING NEW
WILDFIRES.
NOT WITHSTANDING APPROVING COST
SAVINGS OF AT LEAST THREE TO ONE.
THE CPUC IS NOT ESTABLISH
ADEQUATE STANDARDS FOR UTILITIES
TO REDUCE THE RISK OF WILDFIRES
CAUSED BY UTILITY EQUIPMENT. AND
TO MAKE THEIR EQUIPMENT MORE
RESILIENT AND RESISTANT TO
DAMAGE FROM MAJOR DISASTER
EVETTS.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY EIGHT WOULD
REQUIRE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
SERVICES TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS
FOR UTILITIES TO PROTECT AGAINST
DAMAGE. FROM A WIDE VARIETY OF
NATURAL DISASTERS.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY EIGHT WOULD
REQUIRE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
SERVICE.
I JUST SAID THAT.
IT WOULD REQUIRE UTILITIES TO
FILE SAFETY RELIABILITY
RESILIENCY PLANTS WITH THE CPUC.
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE
COURT DATE WOULD LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND FIRE AGENCIES.
THE PLANTS WOULD INCLUDE ALL
COST TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. IN
THE CPUC WOULD REVIEW.
MODIFY IT APPROVED THE PLANS
INCLUDING THE COST TO IMPLEMENT
THEM.
ESTABLISHING A STANDALONE SAFETY
PROCEEDING WOULD REQUIRE
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES IN THE
CPUC TO GIVE GREATER ATTENTION
AND CARE. THE SAFETY AND
RELIABILITY.
THE BILL WOULD ESTABLISH STRONG
ACCOUNTABILITY REQUIREMENTS IT
PROVIDED FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
THE PLAN AND DESIGN.
UTILITIES WOULD BE PROHIBITED
FROM DIVERTING MONEY FROM SAFETY
RELIABILITY. AND RESILIENCE.
THE CPC WOULD REVIEW UTILITIES
COMPLIANCE WITH APPROVED PLANS.
IF UTILITY SUBSTANTIALLY.
COMPLIED WITH THIS SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE UTILITY WOULD BE DEEMED TO
HAVE ACTED REASONABLY AND
PRUDENTLY.
IF UTILITY FAILED TO
SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLY WERE
DIVERTED RESOURCES FROM PLAYING
COMPLIANCE IT WOULD BE FIVE.
LET ME MAKE TWO IMPORTANT POINTS.
THAT IS THE ADDRESSED THE
CONCERNS RAISED BY OPPONENTS
TO THIS BILL.
NOTHING IN SP TEN EIGHTY EIGHT
SPEAKS TO OR CHANGES LAW
PERTAINING TO STRICT LIABILITY
OR THE APPLICATION OF INVERSE
COMBINATION. TO UTILITY CAUSED
WILDFIRES.
HOWEVER.
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
CO DOES REQUIRE THE CPUC TO
SUBJECT SUBJECT APPLICATIONS FOR
RECOVERY OF COST.
BY INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES TO A
REASONABLE THIS REVIEW.
IT THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE
EVIDENCE SHOWS.
SAFETY EXPENDITURES PROPOSED BY
THE UTILITY ARE REASONABLE. THE
COMMISSION WILL ALLOW THE
UTILITY TO RECOVER THE COSTS FOR
RATEPAYERS.
S. B. TEN EIGHTY EIGHT WOULD
PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH THE
MEANS TO ASSISTED.
IN MAKING DETERMINATION A
DETERMINATION ON COST RECOVERY.
AND NOTHING MORE.
THAT IS OUR INTENT.
HOWEVER WE WILL WORK TO CLARIFY
THAT.
ADDITIONALLY IT IS NOT MY INTENT.
THE SP TEN EIGHTY EIGHT
PROHIBITED UTILITY FROM
PURCHASING DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
RESOURCES OR INTERFERE WITH.
DISTRIBUTED ENERGY INNOVATION.
RATHER MY INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE PARTIES THAT OWN
OPERATE MAINTAIN. DISTRIBUTION
INFRASTRUCTURE BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE PERFORMANCE RIDE
RELIABILITY.
AND SAFETY OF THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
DISTRIBUTED ENERGY INDUSTRY ARE
CLARIFYING THAT VERY INTO.
MEMBERS IN A WORLD OF DRAMATIC
CLIMATE CHANGE WERE WILDFIRE
RISK THREATENS ALL YEAR LONG AND
WERE DEVELOPMENTIS PUSHING
FURTHER INTO THE HINTERLANDS. WE
MUST REQUIRE UTILITIES TO MEET
THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
TO PRO ACTIVELY INVEST IN THEIR
SYSTEMS TO MINIMIZE THE
POSSIBILITY OF IGNITING ANOTHER
DEVASTATING. FIERY VAT.%
THE CONSTITUENTS SENATOR MCGUIRE.
AND I REPRESENT WHO WERE
DEVASTATED BY LAST OCTOBER'S
WILDFIRE IN THOSE DOWN IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA DEMAND THIS.
BY REQUIRE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF
DISASTER RESILIENCY AND
PREVENTION STANDARDS.
REQUIRING PLANTS TO MEET THOSE
STANDARDS INVESTING TO ACHIEVE
THOSE STANDARDS AND HOLDING A
UTILITY ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE
STANDARDS. S. B. TEN EIGHTY
EIGHT TAKES AN IMPORTANT STEP
FOR PROTECT TO PROTECT ALL OF
OUR COMMUNITIES
IT OUR CONSTITUENTS.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE WITH ME HERE TODAY ARE
GREAT REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
COALITION OF CALIFORNIA UTILITY
EMPLOYEES AND OTHER WITNESSES.
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MARK JOSEPH.
I REPRESENT THE COALITION OF
CALIFORNIA TILL THE EMPLOYEES.
I'VE BEEN PRACTICING BEFORE THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION FOR
MORE THAN TWENTY YEARS AND FOR
MORE THAN TWENTY YEARS I'VE BEEN
INVOLVED IN GENERATE CASES AT
THE COMMISSION.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITHOUT
FAIL SAFETY AND RELIABILITY GETS
VERY LITTLE ATTENTION IN A
GENERAL RATE CASE.
IT'S JUST THE OUTCOME JUST THE
RESULTS OVER THE HAGGLING OVER
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE TILL IT
IS GOING TO GET.
THAT PROCESS HAS TO CHANGE
IN THIS BILL WHICH CHANGE IT.
I HASTEN TO ADD THERE ARE A LOT
OF GOOD AND DEDICATED PEOPLE AT
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
BUT THEY'RE WORKING INSIDE OF A
FLAWED PROCESS.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED BILLS
REGARDING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
WELL FIRE MITIGATION PLANS BUT
IT NEEDS A SINGLE FORUM TO PULL
IT ALL TOGETHER.
FOR THE SAFETY ACTIONS THAT THE
UTILITY WOULD DO. AND HOW MUCH
IT SHOULD SPEND ON THOSE SAFETY
ACTIONS DON'T GET LOST INSIDE OF
A MASSIVE GENERATE CASE.
I WOULD DESCRIBE THE BILL IT
WOULD WORK AND I'D TO AND
DISCUSS TWO ISSUES THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED.
FIRST BILL HAS A TWO STEP
PROCESS.
FIRST THING IS EVERY SECOND YEAR
EVERY OTHER YEAR.
THE EACH UTILITY WOULD FILE A
SAFETY RELIABILITY PLAN. AND
THAT PLAN WOULD SET OUT ALL OF
THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UTILITIES PROGRAM TO COMPLY WITH
THOSE RULES THE WELFARE
MITIGATION PLAN THE PLAN TO
HARDEN THE SYSTEM SO IT'S MORE
RESISTANT TO CAUSING FIRES.
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT.
FOR GAS UTILITIES TO FIND AND
FIX LEAKS.
AND REPLACE PIPE AFTER AN EVENT.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS AND
THE COST TO DO ALL OF THOSE
THINGS.
IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC PROCESS.
IT WOULD NOT JUST BE A P. UC
INSIDER GAME.
YOUR ANALYSIS ON PAGE SEVEN
EXPRESSES A CONCERN THAT WOULD
BE BASED ON A LOT A LESSER
RECORD THEN GENERATE CASE.
I THINK THAT CONCERN IS
MISPLACED
THE COMMISSION'S DECISION WOULD
BE BASED ON A FULL COMPLETE
EVIDENTIARY RECORD. JUST LIKE IN
A RATE CASE.
YOU ANALYSIS ON PAGE SEVEN ALSO.
EH QUESTIONS THE FEASIBILITY OF
DOING ALL THIS IN A SINGLE YEAR.
WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THIS BY
SAYING THE FIRST ROUND THE FIRST
TIME THAT THE AT THAT UTILITIES
GO THROUGH THIS THE ONLY RISK
THEY WILL ADDRESS WILL BE
WILDFIRE.
IN SUBSEQUENT PLANTS THEY WILL
ADDRESS THE OTHER RISKS WHICH
SENATOR DIED IDENTIFIED.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ON OTHER
WAYS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN
ABOUT ASKING THE COMMISSION TO
DO TOO MUCH IN TOO SHORT A TIME.
WHAT'S THE PLAN AS SUBMITTED THE
COMMISSION WOULD EVALUATE THE
PLAN. REVISE THE PLAN IF IT'S
NEEDED.
AND CONSIDER THE COSTS AND
APPROVE THOSE COSTS WHICH IT
FINDS THAT WOULD WOULD BE
REASONABLE. IT WOULD NOT BE A
BLANK CHECK.
THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE
THE COSTS
BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE REASONABLE.
IMPORTANTLY THE UTILITIES WOULD
BE PROHIBITED FROM DIVERTING.
ANY OF THE APPROVED COSTS
FOR SAFETY RELIABILITY TO ANY
OTHER USE THAT CAN'T DIVERT THE
CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.
THE SECOND MAJOR STEP IN THE
BILL.
THERE'S AN ANNUAL ACCOUNTABILITY
THIS BILL IT IS ABOUT
ACCOUNTABILITY.
AS OUR ANNUAL ACCOUNTABILITY
REVIEW.
DID THE UTILITY COMPLY WITH THE
SAFETY AND RELIABILITY PLAN.
IF IT DID THEN THE COMMISSION
WOULD FIND THAT IT WAS
REASONABLE PRUDENT.
IF NOT THEN UTILITY WILL BE FINE.
NOW.
ONE OPPONENT TURNED CLAIMS THAT
THE BILL WOULD PROTECT THE
UTILITY FROM DISALLOWANCE IS FOR
IMPRUDENCE.
ON THE CONTRARY.
THE BILL SUBJECTS THE UTILITIES
TO FIND EVERY YEAR. IF IT FAILS
TO FOLLOW ITS APPROVED PLAN.
THAT'S MUCH MORE ACCOUNTABILITY
THAN WE HAVE NOW.
THE UTILITIES ARE ON THE HOOK
FOR THEIR PERFORMANCE.
NO ONE ADDRESSED TO ISSUES HAD
BEEN RAISED.
ONE RELATED TO THE CHILI'S BEING
ON THE HOOK AND THE OTHER IS THE
UTILITY COMPLY WITH THIS PLAN.
FIRST.
UTILITIES ARE ON THE HOOK AND
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES AND
WE CAN'T LET THE UTILITIES
DELEGATE OR CONTRACTOR WAY THAT
OBLIGATION TO SOMEONE ELSE.
THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION
IMPLEMENT THEIR SAFETY PLAN.
AND THEY WILL BE FINED IF.
BOB IF THEY FAIL TO DO THAT NOW
IT'S FINE FOR THE UTILITY.
TO.
.
TO.
.
TO BY EQUIPMENT TO CONTRACT OUT
TO CONTACT WITH PEOPLE DISPLAY
EQUIPMENT AND TO CONSTRUCT
FACILITIES.
BUT IF OTHERS OWN AND OPERATE
THOUGH IT SOME TO DISTRIBUTED
ANY RESOURCES THAT ARE PART OF
THE DISTRIBUTED DISTRIBUTION
SAFETY PLAN THEY HAVE TO TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE EQUIPMENT
JUST LIKE THE UTILITY WOULD.
SOME OF THE DE OUR DEVELOPERS.
SAY THAT SOMEHOW THIS WILL MEAN
THE END OF THEIR INDUSTRY.
I THINK THEY'RE WILDLY OVER
READING THE BILL.
THE BIG SINGLE BIGGEST THING TO
DISTRICT ENERGY RESOURCES NET
ENERGY METERING THIS BILL DOES
NOT TOUCH THAT AN INJURY DURING.
NEXT BIGGEST THING SENATOR
SKITTLES SPILL AB TWENTY FIVE
FOURTEEN WHICH TRIGGERED
REVOLUTION.
IN THE STORAGE INDUSTRY.
AND FIFTEEN OTHER PROGRAMS THAT
ALL SUPPORT AND ARE REVENUE FOR
DISPUTE AND RESOURCES NONE OF
THOSE NONE OF THOSE ARE TOUCHED
BY THIS BILL.
SECOND THE ANNUAL COMPLIANCE
REVIEW.
IF THE UTILITY COMPLIES WITH THE
SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF ITS
APPROVED PLAN.
IT WILL BE FOUND REASONABLE AND
PRUDENT.
IF IT DOESN'T COMPLY IT WILL NOT
BE REASONABLE PROVEN.
NOW THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS ARE
CONCERNED THAT THIS FINDING
COULD BE CITED BY UTILITY IN THE
CIVIL CASE.
KEY POINT HERE IS THAT THE
FINDING THAT THE COMMISSION
MAKES.
ONLY APPLIES THE ITEMS THAT ARE
ACTUALLY ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN.
IF THE UTILITY DOES BADLY DOES
SOMETHING BADLY THAT'S NOT
ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN.
THE COMMISSION'S FINDING WON'T
HELP.
I WANT TO POINT YOU TO SPLIT THE
SPECIFIC WORDS IN THE BILL
BECAUSE HE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT.
PAGE THIRTEEN LINE THIRTY FOUR
IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS TALKS ABOUT
DEFINING AND SAYS FOR THINGS
THAT ARE QUOTE ADDRESSED IN THE
PLAN UNQUOTE.
SO IF UTILITY TRIES TO HIDE THE
BALL OR WITHHOLD DATA OR IS.
MAKE SOME VAGUE ASSERTIONS IN
THIS PLAN OR OMIT SOME WHOLE
ACTIVITY FROM ITS PLAN.
IT WILL NOT BE COVERED IN THE
COMMISSION'S FINDING OF BEING
REASONABLE PRUDENT.
THE FINDING IT'S ONLY ABOUT WHAT
SPECIFICALLY EXPLICITLY CALLED
OUT IN THE PLAN.
AND SO I THINK THAT CONCERNED.
IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'RE
WILLING TO WORK ON BUT I THINK
THAT THEIR ON OVER READING THE
BILL. THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBER SCOTT
WHICH ABOT FOR THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION REAP OF
ELECTRICAL WORKERS. REPRESENT
HUNDRED THOUSAND ELECTRICIANS
WHO WORK FOR CONTRACTORS.
D. E. OUR CONTRACTORS WHO
PERFORMED D. ARE PROJECTS TO THE
UTILITIES.
NOT OUR INTENTION TO DENY OR
RESTRICT THE USE OF DE ARE IN
FACT THE BILL ENCOURAGES IT.
THE ONLY INTEREST HERE IS TO
ENSURE.
THERE A LIABILITY IN
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
OPERATIONS FALL WITH WHOEVER'S
GOING TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE
THAT SYSTEM THE SIMPLY OVER
SEEKING IN THAT PROVISION. WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR
TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE BILL.
BUT IS LOBBYING THEM FINGERS IS
ABYSMAL DRIVE ME TO BE TWELVE
FORTY FIVE. I'M REPRESENTING THE
TWENTY ONE THOUSAND MEMBERS OF
IBEW TWENTY TWELVE FORTY FIVE
WHO.
OPERATE AND MAINTAIN AND BUILD
THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE WORLD OR
REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE OF THE
CURRENT CPUC RATE MAKING PROCESS.
AND HOW THAT IS FLAWED AND
HOPEFULLY THIS BILL WILL ADDRESS
AT.
IS PROCESS ORIGINALLY A NOR
SAFETY HAZARD INS INSTEAD SPENT
ALL THIS TIME DECIDING ON HOW TO
CUT UTILITY.
FUNDING
SO THAT ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT
THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS A CIRCUIT
BREAKER CIRCUIT BREAKERS ARE AN
ESSENTIAL PIECE.
OF SAFETY EQUIPMENT FOR THE
SYSTEM BOTH DISTRIBUTION AND
TRANSMISSION.
THE LINE HAS A FAULT OR GOES
DOWN WITHIN.
FRACTIONS OF A SECOND. THE
CIRCUIT BREAKERS WHERE OF THE
POWER DE ENERGIZED THE LINE.
IN TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN P.
GINNY.
IDENTIFIED SEVERAL DOZEN.
CIRCUIT BREAKERS OR WELL PAST
OUR LIFESPAN AND EFFECTIVENESS.
AND BASS RECOVERY IN A VACATION
WERE DENIED BY THE CPUC. THIS
BILL WOULD ADDRESS THAT WHEN IT
WOULD FOCUS ON SAFETY FOCUS ON
INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND HOPEFULLY PREVENT ANY OF
THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN THANK
YOU.
YOUR MEMBERS ON CHRIS PORTER
SYSTEM IS MANAGER WITH.
IBEW LOCAL FORTY SEVEN CALL
REPRESENTING GOT TEN THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED ON MEMBERS ALSO WHO.
ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE.
RELIABILITY AND AND STRUCTURES
UNDER THEIR OWN ALSO TALK ABOUT
A REAL WORLD.
EXAMPLE LEAD IN THE TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN NO GRC RATE
CASE FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON. SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON IDENTIFIED NUMEROUS OF
POLLS THAT WERE OVERLOADED WHEN
LOADING.
DETERIORATING AND HIGH FIRE
AREAS AND THE P. YOU SEE ONLY
APPROVED A FRACTION OF THOSE TO
BE REPLACED.
CLEARLY AND WOEFULLY INADEQUATE.
.
AT THE CURRENT RATE.
THEY ACTUALLY.
HELP PUT
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON A TWO
HUNDRED YEAR. POLL REPLACEMENT.
OUR SCHEDULE.
CLEARLY INADEQUATE.
WELL THERE IS NO TWO HUNDRED
YEAR POLL THAT IS CURRENTLY
BEING PRODUCED RIGHT NOW.
ABOUT THIS BILL.
PUT THAT.
PUT THAT IN THE HANDS OF THE OF
THOSE UTILITIES.
TO ACTUALLY MITIGATE THOSE
HAZARDS.
AND WE ARE SUPPORT OF BILL.
CANADIAN THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SPEAKERS AND SO. FORTH YOU
COULD THE STATE WHO YOU ARE WHO
YOU ARE PRESENTING YOUR POSITION
ON THE BILL.
I'M ACTUALLY TWEENER CAREMARK
AND SENT ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES WOULD JUST LIKE TO
CLARIFY OUR POSITION TO SUPPORT
IF AMENDED. A WE DO SUPPORT THE
CONCEPTS THAT IN THIS BILL AYE
AND APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BY.
THE SENATOR AND THE PROPONENTS
ARE CONCERNED.
DOES SQUARELY WITH THE LOSS
PROVISION OF THE BILL RELATED
TAUGHT LIABILITY WE DO BELIEVE
THIS SECTION IS OVERLY BROAD.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE
OTHER SOUTH AND WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE THANK YOU.
STEVE CRUZ ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. OF
LIKEWISE WERE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR ON AMENDMENTS THAT THAT
HE'S AMENABLE TO GOING FORWARD
RELATED TO DEFENSIBLE SPACE
ENSURING THAT THAT'S IN PLACE
AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS IN
OPPOSITION.
BOB OKAY LET'S WELL LET'S
I AM ANNOUNCING SUPPORTERS OF.
IF WE CAN MAKE SOME ROOM FOR THE
PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET IN THE
ROOM.
PLEASE.
AND THAT MAY MEAN SOME OF THE
OPPONENTS SO WHAT. TEMPORALLY.
WALK OUTSIDE JUST TO LET THE
MEN.
SUPPORTERS COME FORWARD NOW
PLEASE.
SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR
PEACE.
STATE YOUR NAME YOUR POSITION ON
THE BILL.
FIVE MONEY EXCITED WRITER. I'M A
REGULAR FILE PGA MEMBER AND A
MEMBER OF IBEW LOCAL FOUR FORTY
FIVE.
I'M HERE TO IN SUPPORT OF SB.
KENNEDY A.
BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
PROVIDE SAFETY AND CONTINUE.
SAFETY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ALVIN
THEY OWN IN ELECTRICAL WORKER
FOR IVY THOUGH THE TWELVE FORTY
FIVE AND I'M HERE TO US WHAT'S
BILL. TO SAFETY.
NOW THE GARCIA IBEW TALK FORTY
FIVE IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL FOR
THE SAFETY OF THE GREAT AND THE
CUSTOMERS WE SERVE.
STEPHANIE CHáVEZ BY BE THAT WE
TOOK FORTY FIVE ON A SUPPORT
THIS BILL.
BRIAN HOFFMAN IBEW TWELVE FORTY
FIVE SUPPORT ISRAEL'S LA.
CHARLOTTE STEVENS IBEW TWELVE
FORTY FIVE SUPPORT THIS BILL FOR
THE SAFETY OF THE GRID AND THE
CUSTOMERS THAT WE SERVE.
I HAVE POLITICAL. IV THAT YOU
TWELVE FORTY FIVE I SUPPORT FOR
BILL AS WELL THANK.
THE MORNING JEREMY SWIFT IBEW
TWELVE FORTY FIVE SUPPORT THIS
BILL FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR GRADE
AS ALL OF ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS
THANK YOU.
YOUR JACK CARILLO WITH IBEW
TWELVE FORTY FIVE AND I SUPPORT
THIS BILL FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR
GREAT AND TO SERVICE OUR
CUSTOMERS.
I KEVIN CHROMIS IBEW TWELVE
FORTY FIVE OF WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL FOR THE SAFETY OF THE GRADE.
AND FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR
UTILITY CUSTOMERS SUCH AS MY
STEP MOM A LOT LOST HER HOUSE IN
ABOUT THIRTY MINUTES IN SANTA
ROSA THAT I THINK IF.
MR TURNED MEMBERS CAITLIN VACA
FOR THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION. WE STAND WITH OUR
MEMBERS AT I'M IBEW TWELVE FORTY
FIVE AND ALSO FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
AND STRONG SUPPORT THINKING.
SHARE MEMBERS AS ARE THE OTHER
WE HAVE TO THE STATE BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL
ALSO IN STRONG SUPPORT.
VERY LONG I WILL HEAR FROM.
THE OPPOSITION.
MY NAME IS MARK TONY. I'M
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TURNED THE
UTILITY REFORM NETWORK.
I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO
STAND UP FOR RATEPAYERS AND VOTE
NO ON F. B. TEN EIGHTY EIGHT.
VOTE NO ON AUTOMATIC APPROVAL OF
SKY ROCKETING MONTHLY BILLS
BECAUSE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM
PROPOSED SAFETY SPENDING TAKES
MORE THAN TWELVE MONTHS.
EVERY DOLLAR SPENT UNJUSTIFIED
RATE INCREASES THE DOLLAR LESS
THAT HELP BITS ADVANTAGE
COMMUNITIES ACCESS CLEAN ENERGY
AND TO KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON.
DON'T SILENCE OR RAY TURNED AND
OTHER GROUPS THAT FIGHT TO
ENSURE THAT THE ONLY RATE HIKES
THAT ARE APPROVED ARE THOSE THAT
ARE JUSTIFIED. SAVING RATEPAYERS
BILLIONS.
VOTE NO ON MAKING RATE PAYERS
PAY BILLIONS
FOR WILD FIRE DAMAGE WHEN.
P. JIMMY PATTISON AMNESTY DO
NEED FAIL TO OPERATE THEIR
FACILITY SAFELY.
IF SB TEN EIGHTY EIGHT WERE LAW.
P. JIMMY'S SHAREHOLDERS WOULD
HAVE GOTTEN OFF THE HOOK FOR
MUCH OF THE COST OF SAN BRUNO
AND THIS DE JAMIE SHAREHOLDERS
WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A FREE RIDE
FOR THE TWO THOUSAND AND SEVEN
WILDFIRES. VOTE NO ON GUIDING
UTILITY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
SAFETY AND MEANINGFUL REVIEW OF
THECOST EFFECTIVENESS OF SAFETY
MEASURES.
PART OF THE REASON THAT THE CPU
FEET DOES NOT APPROVE EVERYTHING
THAT THE UTILITIES BRING TO THEM
IN THE NAME OF SAFETY. LIVE
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS
JUSTIFIED LET THE P. IFFY DO ITS
JOB DO WITH YOUR REVIEW LISTEN
TO ALL THE FIGHTS NOT JUST THE
UTILITY SIDE BUT ALSO THE
CONSUMER SIDE SO THAT THEY CAN
ACHIEVE THE PROPER. BALANCE
OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
COURT RULES THAT REQUIRE
UTILITIES TO LINK FIFTY SPENDING
WHAT MEASURABLE INCREASES IN THE
FATE OF OPERATIONS OF UTILITY
FACILITIES. MAKE NO MISTAKE WHO
IS REALLY BEHIND OF MATERNITY
EIGHT NOBODY BENEFITS FROM
AUTOMATIC RATE INCREASES. RATE
PAYERS PAYING FOR UTILITIES
SAFETY FAILURE AND WEAKENING OF
UTILITY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
UNFAIR OF OPERATIONS NO ONE
BENEFITS MORE THAN P. JIMMY
ADAMSON MST JIMMY I ASK YOU TO
STAND UP FOR EVERYBODY WHO PAVE
THE MONTHLY BILL. AND VOTE NO ON
S. B. TEN EIGHTY EIGHT.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS.
MY NAME IS PAT
CALLUM I'M REPRESENTING.
FROM THE ASHES.
UP FROM THE ASHES.
A COALITION OF THE THOUSANDS OF
FIRE VICTIMS.
.
THAT WE HAD LAST FALL.
NOW I'VE BEEN TESTIFYING FOR
OVER THIRTY YEARS BEFORE THE
LEGISLATURE.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.
WHERE I CAN TESTIFYING AS A PART
OF THE ISSUE?
I AND MY WIFE WERE VICTIMS OF
THE CINEMA FIRE.
IT'S ALSO THE FIRST TIME I'VE
EVER READ TESTIMONY IN GIVEN THE
LEGAL ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE TO
DO THAT.
AND I I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I
SPENT A COUPLE WEEKS REALLY
ANALYZING THESE ISSUES BEFORE
I'D DECIDED TO TAKE THIS ON.
FIRST I WANT TO DO THANK SENATOR
DODD.
WE HAVE SPENT TIME TOGETHER ON
THIS ISSUE HIS COMMITMENT TO THE
VICTIMS IN IS OTHER BILLS AND
STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND HIS EFFORTS TO TRY TO
CLARIFY OUR ISSUE.
SO THE ISSUE IS COMPLICATED AND
IT'S TECHNICAL.
AND WE ARE PASSING OUT AND
AMENDMENT THE YOU'VE SEEN YOU'VE
SEEN THIS AMENDMENT AND STUFF
LIKE THAT.
AND SO THERE ARE LAWYERS. THAT
THAT.
THE.
THAT.
ARE NOT INTERPRETING.
WHAT SENATOR DODD REALLY
MEANINGFULLY IS TRYING TO DO
AROUND THE LIABILITY ISSUES
AND THIS IS A SIMPLE AMENDMENT?
THAT WHAT CLARIFY THAT SO WE CAN
GO FORWARD AND FOCUS ON OTHER
ISSUES BUT FIRST.
A.
OCTOBER. IN NORTH BAY WAS THE
WORST FIRING CALIFORNIA HER SHOE
IT BURNED NEARLY NINE THOUSAND
HOMES SCHOOLS AND OTHER
STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE NORTH
BAY.
MORE THAN TWO TO TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND ACRES OF LAND WERE
SCORCHED AND EVEN WORSE THE FIRE
KILLED FORTY TWO PEOPLE. MY WIFE
CHIU SAKAKI AND I ALMOST BECAME
VICTIM FORTY THREE AND FORTY
FOUR.
THE MORNING OF THE TENTH THE FOR
A TWO A. M..
WE WOKE UP TO SMOKE ALARMS
I SAW THEIR HOUSE WAS IN FLAMES.
WE JUMPED OUT OF BED.
ME AND ONLY BOXER SHORTS AND
JUDY IN ONLY A ROPE.
WE RAN BAREFOOT NO GLASSES
THROUGH THE SMOKE AND FLAMES OF
THE HOUSE TO THE FRONT DOOR.
NOW FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES WE
WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT WE SAW.
WHEN WE OPENED THE FRONT DOOR.
WE OPEN THE DOOR WHICH ONLY
COULD BE DESCRIBED I THINK THE
LEGAL TERMINATION AS AN INFERNO.
DANTE'S INFERNO IF THOSE OF YOU
THAT READ THAT BOOK MAY EVEN BE
A BETTER INTERPRETATION.
EVERYWHERE WE LOOKED.
WAS IN FLAMES.
WHETHER IT WAS THE TREES ALL THE
HOUSES EVEN THE GROUND COVER. IT
WAS SO HOT IS BURNING THE DIRT
WITHIN THE FLAMES.
.
WITHIN SECONDS WE HAD TO MAKE A
QUICK DECISION FOR OUR LIVES.
EN AYE THAT BY INSTINCT ALONE.
I GRABBED JULIE'S HAND WE BEGAN
TO RUN UP THE HILL UP HILL.
LATER WE WERE TO DISCOVER WE
MADE THE RIGHT DECISION.
WE'RE BREEDING SMOKE IN THE WAY
GLOWING SPARKS INTO OUR BODY
BURNING EVERY PART OF OUR BODY.
WE LITERALLY DRAGGED OURSELVES
UP THE HILL BURNING CHOKING FOR
ABOUT FIFTEEN MINUTES.
IT WAS THE LONGEST A TENTH OF A
MILE OF OUR LIVES.
WHENEVER A WIND GUSTS WOULD HIT
US
I WOULD COVER MY BODY UP TO
PROTECT IT FROM THE FLAMES AND
JUDY WOULD SCREEN.
WE HAVE TO KEEP RUNNING WE HAVE
TO KEEP RUNNING.
THE WORST PART OF THIS FIFTEEN
MINUTES WAS INHALING THE SMOKE.
SO THE SMOKE IMPACT IN DIZZINESS
AND EVERYTHING ELSE
SO JUST PURE WILLPOWER A BREATHE
IN SMOKE AND DIZZINESS TO GET US
UP THE HILL.
IT WAS SO THICK WE CAN ONLY SEE
ABOUT THIRTY FEET IN FRONT OF US
CHOKING BURNING A READY TO PASS
OUT.
WE DRAGGED OURSELVES UP THE HILL
UNTIL WE SAW CARLIKE.
ABOUT TWENTY FEET AHEAD OF US.
THE SMOKE WAS SO THICK THAT THE
DRIVE DRIVER IN CS.
JUDY SCREAMED AND I POUNDED ON
THE TRUCK.
ON THE FRONT AND IN THE WINDOWS.
THE DRIVER AND THE PASSENGER
WERE SHOCKED THAT ANYONE HAD
SURVIVED.
OUR SAVIOR'S.-TWO FIREMEN WHO ARE RISKING
THEIR OWN LIVES DRIVING TO THE
FIRE AND DEBRIS FALLING POLLS
AND TREES THAT WERE FOLLOWING.
DID YOU RUN INTO US.
ONE OF THOSE FIREMAN ACTUALLY
LOST HIS OWN HOME.
AFTER DROPPING OFF HIS FAMILY.
MIDDLE AND WENT TO THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT PICKED UP HIS PARTNER
AND TOOK THAT RISKY RODE THE RUN
UP THOUSAND GROW.
WE'RE NOT FOR THEM.
IF WE NOT HAD LEFT OUR HOUSE
IMMEDIATELY.
IF WE NOT HEARD IF WE ARE
ALARMED BATTERIES WERE NOT
REPLACE WHICH I HAD DONE.
IF WE WENT IN THE POOL OR THE
GARAGE.
OR JUMP FROM THE BEDROOM WINDOW.
THAT WE HAD RUN.
COUNTER INTUITIVELY DOWNHILL.
I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY
TESTIFYING.
SO SET THE FIRE ALL OF US THAT
ARE VICTIMS
I SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS.
DEALING WITH.
ARE ITEMS WE MOVED FIVE TIMES
IN SIX MONTHS.
.
AND TRY AND WE'RE IT WE'RE GOING
TO REBUILD AND EVERYTHING ELSE
TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE PHYSICAL
AND EMOTIONAL IMPACT FROM THIS
HORRIBLE NIGHT.
AND EACH VICTIM HAS HIS OWN
STORY CAN EVEN HEAR MORE
DRAMATICS STORY FROM GREG WILSON
IN A MINUTE.
SO WHETHER YOU ARE POOR WEALTHY.
A FARMER A FARM WORKER AN
ELECTRICIAN IS YOU JUST MET A
FIREMAN THE TEACHER DOCTOR
STUDENT A LOBBYIST OR ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
THE FIRE HAD NO DISCRIMINATION.
SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT ALL FUTURE VICTIMS.
AS SENATOR DODD IS CAREFULLY
INDICATED TO DO THAT SO WE URGE
YOU TO TAKE THAT AMEND.
SO.
S. B. TEN NBA. AS WE'RE
INTERPRETING.
CHANGES CIVIL LIABILITY LA.
THE PROTECT HOMEOWNERS PUBLIC
UTILITIES.
AND ALL CONSUMERS BY PROVIDING
RESULT REMEDIES THE HOLD
ACCOUNTABLE UTILITIES WHOSE
ACTIONS CAUSED DEATH AND
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES.
IN SHORT.
WE'RE INTERPRETING THE BILL.
THE UTILITY MEETS ITS OWN
PROPOSED SAFETY RELIABILITY
RESILIENCE PLANS.
THAT IT GETS LEGAL IMMUNITY AND
CIVIL ACTIONS.
ASSUMING THE PLANTS ARE APPROVED
BY THE CPUC.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE PLANS
LOOK LIKE.
HOW COMPREHENSIVE OR NOT THEY
ARE?
YEAH WE'RE GIVING UTILITIES
IMMUNITY IF THEY MEET THE.
THAT'S ASSUMING FAITH IN THE
CPUC BUT HAS A STAFF AND
ADEQUATE MONITOR AND REVIEW THE
PLANS.
THAT GOVERNOR STANDARDS ARE
MINUTES
AND THEN NEVER MET TO SET THE
LEGAL LIABILITY STANDARD.
CAN YOU IMAGINE GIVING POLLUTERS
A PASS SIMPLY BECAUSE THE
COMPANY MET THE TRUMP EPA
STANDARDS.
OF COURSE NOT BUT THAT'S NOT
EXACTLY THE PREMISE.
WE'RE INTERPRETING OF THE BILL
OR SAYING JUST BECAUSE A DRUG
HAS FDA APPROVAL THAT ESTEEM SAY
FOR LEGAL PART PURPOSES.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
ARE INJURED AND KILLED BY
PRODUCTS ARE DEVICES AND THERE'S
A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE.
AND THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR
THIS BLOCK OUR. FIRST HOUSE CAL
FIRE.
TO DO A REPORT WHICH WILL TELL
US.
WHO AND WHAT CAUSED THE FIRE?
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AWHILE TO
DO NOT VERY ANALYTICAL.
THEN OUR JUDICIAL COURTS WILL
FAIRLY ADJUDICATE THE MATTER
SUBJECT TO STRICT RULES AND
EVIDENCE AND PROCEDURES
DETERMINE LEGAL LIABILITY.
FINALLY CPUC HAS ADMINISTRATIVE
ABILITY DECIDE WHAT COST TO BE
BORNE BY UTILITIES AND THE
SHAREHOLDERS WHAT MAY BE PASSED
ALONG TO RATEPAYERS.
WE BELIEVE THIS PROCESS SHOULD
STAND PLACE AND WE URGE YOU TO
TAKE THAT AMENDMENT.
SO LET THE FACTS IN THE COURTS
MAKE THE DETERMINAR AROUND CIVIL
LIABILITY.
THANK YOU FOR DIDN'T I AM AND
I'D LIKE TO.
IF YOU DO SEE.
ANOTHER VICTIM AND ONE OF OUR
MEMBERS OF UP FROM THE ASHES.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BOTTOM
MY NAME IS CRAIG WILSON. MY WIFE
AND I WERE FIVE VICTIMS.
I HOME WE BASICALLY HAD TO JUMP
INTO THE POOL.
I WE BRAG HAD TIME TO SAY OUR
GOODBYES AND THE FIRE WAS UPON
US.
FOR THE NEXT THREE HOURS WE WERE
DIVING UNDERNEATH.
CLASH SKIPPING THE FLAMES AND
THE SUPER HEATED AIR AND.
WATCHING EVERYTHING ALL THE
HOUSE
CARS BURN.
INGESTING HUGE AMOUNTS OF TOXIC
SMOKE.
.
BUT MY MAIN ISSUE I BELIEVE IS
SAID.
WITH A VAGUE LANGUAGE OF LIKE
SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE.
BUT A LOT OF THESE RATES COULD
BE PASSED ON TO US FIRE VICTIMS.
AND OUR RATEPAYERS.
AND AS AN EXAMPLE IF.
PGA.
.
IF THEY WERE IN SUBSTANTIAL
COMPLIANCE AS PLANNED THEY
CAPACITIES RATES ON AND THAT'S
MY MAIN CONCERN THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION
PLEASE TAKE YOUR NAME YOUR
POSITION ON THE BILL.
AND IF YOU REPRESENTING ANYBODY
WHO THAT IS.
DON'T HESITATE TO COME FORWARD
MIKE IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION.
BETH AWESOME THE HAVE OF THE
AGRICULTURAL ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION AND ALL OPPOSITION.
BUT. BOARD MONIES PRODUCT OF
CARAMEL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA SOLAR AND STORAGE
ASSOCIATION WE REPRESENT OVER
FIVE HUNDRED A COMPANIES EMPLOY
DIVERSE EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND
PEOPLE. AND BUILDING OUT
CALIFORNIA'S DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
RESOURCES AND WE ARE HERE IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL WE ARE
GREATLY APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
EFFORTS AND HIS AYE STATEMENTS
AND COMMENTS ON IN PRESENTING
THE BILL. AND THAT HE WISHES TO
WORK WITH US ON TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS I'M I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT.
OUR CONCERNS ARE NOT OVERSTATED
ON THIS BILL.
WOULD BASICALLY SEVERELY HAMPER
OTHER DEPLOYMENT OF DISTRIBUTED
ENERGY RESOURCES IT WOULD STIFLE
INNOVATION UMPS BLOCK
COMPETITION ANDA KEEP CONSUMERS
OF FROM HAVING ENERGY CHOICES.
IT ALSO IRONICALLY WOULD ON
PREVENT SOME OF THE VERY
DEPLOYMENT OF DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
RESOURCES THAT WILL HELP OF
REDUCE FIRE RISK AND CREATE
GREATER GRIT STABILITY. PUMPS IT
WE WORK WE LOOK FOR TO WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS BUT AS WHEN A HIGHLIGHT
WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO THERE
ARE.
MULTIPLE PLACES IN THIS BILL
WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEMATIC
LANGUAGE IT'S AN OVER REACH AND
A PARAGRAPH AND WE ARE OPPOSED
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN MY
NAME SAID SMELL OFF I'M.
.
RENEWABLE INTEGRATIONS MANAGER
FOR VOTE SOLAR WHERE A NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATION ACTIVE IN TWENTY
FIVE STATES PROMOTING.
SOLAR AND COMPLEMENTARY
TECHNOLOGIES WERE OPPOSED TO
THIS BILL AND LESS AMENDMENT AND
AMENDED. THIS BILL.
WOULD SEVERELY RESTRICT THE USE
OF DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES
LIKE SOLAR STORAGE DEMAND
RESPONSE PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE
YEAR.
ARE ATTEMPTING ADDRESS THROUGH
SP TEN EIGHTY EIGHT.
WE SUPPORT TAKING ACTION TO MAKE
THE GRID MORE RESILIENT MORE
RELIABLE AND DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
RESOURCES IS A KEY TOOL IN DOING
THAT WE HEARD MISTER JOSEPH SAY
THAT HE WAS NOT OPPOSED TO USING
THESE.
TECHNOLOGIES BUT ONLY IF THEY'RE
DEPLOYED KNOWN BY THE ELECTRIC
UTILITIES. WE THINK THAT IS A
SEVERE RESTRICTION WE SHOULD BE
USING THEM BOTH. AND THE
CAPACITY WITH A UTILITY OWNED
BUT ALSO WITH THIRD PARTIES ARE
CONTRACTING WITH UTILITIES.
FOR DELIVERING RELIABILITY
SERVICES ANGELIDIS SHOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE BUT THEY SHOULD USE
ALL THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
TO THEM THANK YOU.
THIS RETURN MEMBERS JOHN A PRICE
ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA LEGAL
CONSERVATION VOTERS I WANT I
THINK THE AUTHOR AND HIS STAFF
FOR TAKING THE TIME.
TO MEET WITH US THIS PAST WEEK
TO ADDRESS OUR ISSUES I
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF SPELL.
AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
THERE IS THE ASSERTION THAT THIS
BILL ENCOURAGES DE ARE.
TO.
VOTE SOLAR'S POINT IT DOESN'T
COURAGE DE ARE BUT SOUL UTILITY
OWNERSHIP OF DE ARE.
IF THE INTENT OF THE BILL IS TO
PROTECT CONSUMERS AND UTILITIES
FROM FUTURE CLIMATE DISASTERS. I
CURRENTLY FIND IT VERY TROUBLING
THAT NEITHER CONSUMER GROUPS ARE
APPARENT SUPPORT OR UTILITIES
AND I DO HOPE THAT SOMETHING
THAT GETS FIGURED OUT AS WE GO
FOR. INDIA.
HI THIS IS LARA NAVARRO HERE
FROM ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND
WE ARE ALSO IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL WE SEE IT IS NOT NOT
SOMETHING DESPITE ITS INTENT
THAT HELPS CONSUMERS. AND IN
FACT IT GETS IN THE WAY OF THEIR
ABILITY TO OWN IT DISTRIBUTED
CLEAN ENERGY.
A KEY TOOL KEY TOOLS SOLAR
STORED AT SETTER IN THE FIGHT
AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE. A
SIGNIFICANT TROOP CONTRIBUTOR TO
WILDFIRES WE WE ARE.
WE ASK THAT YOU REMOVE THOSE AB
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S TIM MCCRAE I'M THE
VICE PRESIDENT FOR ENERGY FOR
THE SILICON VALLEY LEADERSHIP
GROUP WE REPRESENT OVER THREE
HUNDRED SIXTY TECH COMPANIES IN
SILICON VALLEY. UP WE ARE OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED AND THE PROVISION
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO STRIP OUT
ARE THE.
PARTS THAT ARE.
WHAT'S COMPETITION IN A NUMBER
OF AREAS WHERE THIRD PARTY
DISTRIBUTORSHIP RESOURCES
CURRENTLY FLORA SH AREAS LIKE
BEHIND ME IT'S METER SOLAR
STORAGE AND DEMAND RESPONSE
LOOKING VALUE SHOULD GROUP
SUPPORTS COMPETE
COMPETITION AND SHIPPED ENERGY
SOLUTIONS AND SEES NO REASON.
TO KEEP THIS WORK SOLELY FOR THE
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES THANK
YOU.
GOOD MORNING NO I MEAN I OUT OF
THE WITH SOME RUN WITH THE
LARGEST RESIDENTIAL SOLAR
STORAGE ENERGY SERVICES PROVIDER.
NOW WE HAVE ABOUT THREE THOUSAND
EMPLOYEES AND WE ARE ARE OPPOSED.
TO THIS BILL AS AMENDED DUE TO
ITS DETRIMENTAL UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES THE GIFT.
IT'S MORNING AND NANCY PARA
RAINY ON BEHALF OF THE CONSUMER
ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA WE ARE
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL UNLESS IT'S
AMENDED. AS WRITTEN IT SIMPLY
IMMUNIZE IS THE UTILITIES. FOR
AND IF THEY MEET SOME NEBULOUS
YET TO BE DETERMINED STANDARDS
EITHER INCOMPLETE.
CREATED BY THE CPUC IT'S FUN
PRESIDENT IT AND TO HAVE A
REGULATION AND ADMINISTRATIVE
REGULATION. HAVE THAT WAY ON
CIVIL CASES AND FOR THESE
REASONS WE HAVE PROVIDED A
PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AND THAT WE
pWOULD LIKE IT TO BE ACCEPTED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY AND WE HAVE AN EXPERT HERE
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE
LIABILITY ISSUE STEVE CAMP PARA.
WHO REPRESENTED A NUMBER OF
VICTIMS IN SENATOR HILLS
DISTRICT I'M WIMPY JEANNIE I'M
HAD SIX BALANCE?
AS THEY FLEW OUT PEOPLE IN THAT
AREA THANK YOU.
MORE MISTER MEMBERS COMMITTEE
OUR MONTHLY SALARY PROPERTY
CASUALTY INSURERS.
WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPOSED
POSITION BUT WE DO HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT THE LIABILITY.
LANGUAGE IN THE BILL HOW WE DID
IT COULD HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR
HOMEOWNERS IN OUR SUBROGATION
RIGHTS.
I MEAN TO OUR BEHALF OF OUR
MCAULIFFE BRING A IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU.
WORKING CARPOOL WITH HERNANDEZ
STRATEGY GROUP ON THE OF THE
CONSUMER FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIA ALSO IN OPPOSITION.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS AND.
BILLY HUNTER ON BEHALF THE
SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRIES
ASSOCIATION THE CENTRE FOR
SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND ADVANCED
MICRO PRINT SOLUTIONS WE SHARE
THE CONCERN MCCARTY E. OUR
COLLEAGUES. AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH SENATOR DODD TO
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS FOR NOW
WE'RE POSING WITH CEMENT.
GREETINGS PER IN SHAW
REPRESENTING BECAUSE.
CCA J. OF THE INLAND EMPIRE SAY
HA. PUT THEIR ODYSSEY WITH CISCO
BECAUSE OUR LA. A A PEN MY
ORGANIZATION AND AND COMMUTER
BETTER OFF ENVIRONMENT TO
REPRESENTS ABOUT THIRTY THOUSAND
MEMBERS ACROSS THE STATE.
IN OPPOSITION WE DO NOT BELIEVE
THAT THE LIABILITY PROVISIONS AT
ALL PROTECT LOW INCOME.
RATEPAYERS OR DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES WE.
UP TO WORK WITH.
MISTER JOSEPH AND THE AUTHOR TO.
MAKE THIS TRULY A BILL THAT
COULD DO THAT THINK.
KATHERINE HEPBURN AMERICAN
INSURANCE ASSOCIATION I'D LIKE
TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES.
COMMENTS FROM PROPERTY CASUALTY
INSURERS I'M A WITH A FOUR DOOR
CAN WITH THE AUTHOR.
SYLVIA SOLELY SHAUN BEHALF OF
ADVANCED ENERGY ECONOMY WE SHARE
THE CONCERNS OF THE LARGER DE
OUR COMMUNITY BEFORE TO WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR BUT WE
REGRETFULLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
AND EMILY RASH ON BEHALF OF
CALPERS WE ALSO SHARE SOME OF
THE CONSUMER ENVIRONMENTAL
CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED TODAY
AND GIVE.
GOOD MORNING SYLVIA REFERRING TO
HAVE THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
STORAGE OF THIS ONE ALIGN
OURSELVES WITH THE CONCERNS OF
THE D. OUR COMMUNITY.
AGRICULTURE THE CUFF MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION WE DO NOT
HAVE A POSITION.
WE HAVE HAD INITIAL
CONVERSATIONS WITH AUTHORS
OFFICE. OUR MAIN CONCERN AT THIS
POINT IS THE LANGUAGE IN THE
BILL ABOUT THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY SERVICES DEVELOPING
STANDARDS AND ACTIONS TO BE
UNDERTAKEN.
BY PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITIES WE
LOOKED FOR DICTATING TO WORK
WITH AUTHOR ON THAT LINK WHICH I
GIVE.
MACKLIN SEEN ON BEHALF OF*
ECHOING THAT CONCERNS OF SENIOR
WAY IN THE PORT WORKING WITH THE
OTHER.
OKAY.
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION ANYONE
ANY TWENTY YEARS.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT WILL COME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.
MY FIRST OF ALL.
ACUTE.
ANGERED ALL THE.
IT YOU KNOW.
SOLAR INDUSTRY YOU KNOW.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND I
ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK ON THAT
BUT WITH THE INDUSTRY AND ALSO.
.
NO WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME IN THE
GARMENT OFF. THIRTY LET'S
AND THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY THAT
A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THIS BILL.
BUT I UNDERSTAND FOR IMPORTANT
UNITS VERY IMPORTANT TO UP YOUR
COMMUNITY AND.
TRYING TO COME UP WITH THERE ARE
REASONABLE. MIDDLE GROUND ON ON
ADDRESSING SAFETY OF THE OF THE
NETWORKS.
WE HAVE.
.
SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WERE.
PRESENTED.
I'M INTERESTED IN THE AMENDMENT
THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE ONE OF
FOR SPEAKERS THAT CAME UP AND
TALKED ABOUT THE.
.
THIS ONE THAT WAS CIRCULATED.
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BEFORE I HAVE.
YES MISTER CHAIRMAN I HAVE SEE I
HAVE SEEN IT. YOU ALL ON WHERE'S
THE LANGUAGE FOR THE HERE THIS
YEAR. KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA
DO ON THIS BILL IS TAKE OUT THE
GENERAL LANGUAGE AT THE END
THAT'S IN IN MY BILL RIGHT NOW.
THAT I THINK IS CREATING A LOT
OF THIS ANGST
IT'S VERY GENERAL AND SO IT
LEADS PEOPLE TO THINK.
THIS IS GOING TO OPEN THE DOOR
FOUR PGA NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET
OUT OF.
YOU KNOW HARM'S WAY IN THE GALA
IN THE THAT FIRST OF ALL THIS IS
DOES NOTHING RETROACTIVELY
WHATSOEVER BUT IT'S NOT THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL. TO CREATE
ANY SAFE HARBORS.
FOR PGA ME AS TO THIS
OR PGA OR ANY OTHER INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITY.
FOR THAT MATTER THIS.
PICKING OUT ONE GENERAL LINE AND
THEN PUTTING IN ANOTHER GENERAL
LINE WHICH THIS I I BELIEVE THAT
THIS.
AT AMENDMENT HAVE SOME VERY
GENERAL LANGUAGE THAT I DON'T
THINK SOLVES THE PROBLEM IT
CREATES.
EQUAL PROBLEMS ON THE OTHER SIDE
SO MY COMMITMENT IS IS WE WILL
WORK WITH BOTH SIDES.
YOU HAVE.
YET WILL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS
TO MAKE SURE THAT.
WE WE THREAD THE NEEDLE BECAUSE
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS GOING
TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO
BE NEEDED. TO BE THREADED YOU'VE
HEARD THE YEAH THE OPPOSITION
VERY VERY CLEARLY AND I TAKE.
THEIR CONCERNS VERY CLEARLY
BETWEEN CENTER MCGUIRE AYE I
HAVE SEVEN THOUSAND REASONS.
WHY?
IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE RATE PAYERS AND
CONSUMERS.
IN THE FIRE AREAS.
ARE WELL SERVED.
THANK YOU SENATOR HILL THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR IN AND AGAIN I I
WANT TO THANK SENATOR DIED FOR.
HIS SINS
TRUE COMMITMENT IN THE I SAW AND
FELT THE PAIN THAT HE WAS
SUFFERING AND STRUGGLING UNDER.
FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND THE
AND FRANKLY YOU'RE WAY AHEAD OF
WHERE I WAS SIX MONTHS AFTER THE
TRAGEDY THAT I EXPERIENCED IN MY
DISTRICT A. YEAR THE WORK THAT
YOU'VE YOU'VE TAKEN ON AND THE
EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE.
YOU.
THAT YOU'VE EMBRACED ON BEHALF
OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS IS IS IS IS
TERRIFIC AND TREMENDOUS AND ANTI.
IT'S ONE OF THE THE KIND OF
FRAME THINGS A LITTLE BIT AS
I'VE SEEN THEM BECAUSE THE.
YOU KNOW AFTER.
SAM BRUNO'S EXPLOSIONS EIGHT
YEARS AGO AND CERTAINLY
UTILITIES WITH BUT NOT MY
PRIORITY IN LIFE.
OF IT BECAME ONE AND I THOUGHT
THAT.
YOU KNOW THAT WITH ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS WAS WE WEREN'T PUT
ENOUGH MONEY BEHIND SAFETY AND
THAT THAT WAS A CHALLENGE.
BUT THEN THE.
AT OFTEN POINT TO AN INSTANCE
WHERE P. GENIE IN ONE CASE
RECEIVED FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
FOR REPAIR ABOUT A MILE FROM
WHERE THAT EXPLOSION WAS. AND
THEY DIVERTED THAT MONEY TO
SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND ASK
FOR THE MONEY AGAIN AND.
AND THEY GOT IT AND SO IT WAS A
PROBLEM.
IN THAT WE SAW IN THE AND IMAGE
IN TROUBLING FROM THAT BUT WHAT
IS WHAT HAS OCCURRED SINCE THAT
TIME WITH ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE
WORK IN THE LEGISLATURE.
IT IS. I BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW
THROWING MONEY AT THE PROBLEM.
DIDN'T WASN'T FOR SAN BRUNO
DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE AND IT'S NOT
DOING IT NOW.
BUT WHAT SOLVE THE PROBLEM IS
OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORT IN TRYING
TO DEVELOP AND PUT PRESSURE AND
CHANGE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED AT
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
AND CHANGES THAT OCCURRED IN P.
JEANNIE FRANKLY.
I LOOK AT P. JEANNIE UNDER THE
EXISTING SYSTEM THAT WE'VE PUT
INTO PLACE AND IN THE
LEGISLATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN
THE RULES AND THEN IF THAT.
AT THE P. UC. I WOULD SAY THEY
HAVE PROBABLY A MODEL ONE OF THE
BEST GAS SYSTEMS
FROM IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE THEY.
RECEIVE THE RESOURCES THAT WERE
NECESSARY.
THEY CHANGED LEADERSHIP IF
STRONG LEADERSHIP IN THEIR GAS
ACTION.
AND MADE IMPROVEMENTS IN IT
WORKS IN THAT THEY HAVE I THINK
A MODEL THAT I'VE CUP CERTAINLY
COME FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
BUT I ALSO LOOKED IT.
WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ES
DE JEANNIE AND SAN DIEGO GAS AND
ELECTRIC THEIR EFFORT IN
ELECTRICITY? AFTER THE FIRE THE
WHICH FIRES OF TWO THOUSAND
SEVEN.
THEY WERE ABLE TO.
AGGRESSIVELY WORK WITH THE P.
YOU SEE AND NOW I WOULD LOOK AT
IT VISITING THEIR SYSTEM AND
THAT THEY HAVE A MODEL OF
ELECTRIC SYSTEM TODAY I THINK
TOOK IN THAT. IS A.
OF AN INDUSTRY STANDARD OF HOW
TO DO THAT AND THEY DID ALL O
THAT WITHIN THE EXISTING
FRAMEWORK. OF.
OF THE P. YOU SEE NOW CERTAINLY
WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE
FIELD YOU SEE A.
I JUST DON'T LOOK AT THIS BILL
AS THOSE FOLLOWING ANY
IDENTIFIABLE PROBLEMS WITH THE
CURRENT SYSTEM.
IT ONLY FURTHERS AND THE
COMPLICATIONS OF THE CURRENT
SYSTEM WHILE ENSURING THE
UTILITIES.
GET PAID NO MATTER HOW
DISASTROUS LEAVE THE SYSTEM MAY
FAIL US IN THAT'S THE PROBLEM
THAT I SEE WITH THIS BILL.
I'M ONE THAT ALWAYS WHO IS
WILLING TO SAY LET'S WORK ON IT
LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN BUT
I THINK TURNS EFFORTS THE LETTER
THAT THEY SENT IN OPPOSITION IN
THE COMMENTS TODAY. AYE I
THOUGHT WAS AN ACTUAL EXCELLENT
REPRESENTATION OF OF WHY. IT THE
END OF THE DAY THIS BILL CAN'T
WORK AND AND WILL NOT WORK
SUCCESSFULLY TO GET US TO THE
END GOAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IN THE END GOAL IS A SAFER MORE
RELIABLE SYSTEM.
AND AND THAT'S THE THAT'S
REALLY WHAT I THINK IS THE THE
MAIN PURPOSE
OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. TURNS
COMMENTS I THINK PLACE IT I
DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REPEAT
THEM I WON'T.
BUT I THINK IT IT'S CLEAR I
AGREE THAT SAFETY IT IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT PRIORITY THAT WE HAVE
IS THAT IF IT FOR EIGHT YEARS.
BUT BY CREATING A NEW RATE CASE.
DOESN'T PROMOTE SAFETY AND IT'S
NOT GOING TO IS I SEE IT'S ALL
FOR PROBLEMS.
IDEA IS ONE OF THE.
OPPOSITION MENTIONED THAT OF THE
BILL WAS GIVEN OVER REACHING A
POWER GRAB AND. THEY THINK ABOUT
IT IT IT IT MIGHT BE THAT BUT
I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO GIVE
SOMEONE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT
TO WORK ON SOMETHING IN THE AND
ESPECIALLY MY GOOD FRIEND
SENATOR DODD.
TO DO THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE WAY
THE BILL IS STRUCTURED.
I CAN'T SEE ANY WAY TO MAKE THIS
SUCCESSFULLY WORK.
GET TO THE GOAL THAT I THINK WE
ALL WANT TO ACHIEVE-SO I WILL HAVE TO VOTE NO ON IT
TODAY.
THANK YOU TO ANYONE ELSE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BILL.
PRACTICAL COMMENTS.
THANKS SO MUCH. MISTER CHAIR.
.
DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BY
MISTER HILL IN.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE
PRESENTATION BY SENATOR DODD.
I'M IN HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO.
TALK WITH SENATOR DODD.
DOZENS UPON DOZENS AND DOZENS OF
TIMES.
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS
SINCE OCTOBER EIGHT AND I THINK.
BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD DID. VERY
PERSONAL TESTIMONY HERE TODAY
IT'S CHANGED THE LIVES OF.
I TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THE
NORTHERN CALIFORNIANS FOR EVER.
AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION OF THE LAST FEW DAYS
AND GOT I SAY VERY VERY GRATEFUL
UP FOR THE PARTNERSHIP.
AND GET TO WORK WITH SENATOR DON
SO MANY ON AND ON THE NORTH BANK.
AND.
LOOK.
THERE DOLLARS MADE IT CLEAR THAT
HE'S COMMITTED TO WORKING ON
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT.
HAVE BEEN ADVANCED THAT WITH THE
BILL TODAY.
AND HE'S MADE SURE INSISTS THAT
HE'S GONNA BE LOOKING AT SOME OF
THE CHALLENGES THAT. HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSED IN THOSE CHALLENGES IT
BEEN ADDRESSED I THINK ARE HIS
AT CHALLENGES AS WELL IN.
I KNOW I SHARE ON SOME OF THEM.
I THINK THAT.
.
IT BOTTOM LINE IS THIS CANNOT
IMPACT THE CIVIL. LIABILITY
PROCESS UP FOR ANY RESIDENTS.
WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY? THE
FIRESTORM.
AND THE LANGUAGE IS BROAD.
AND AND I KNOW THAT SOONER DOT
IS COMMITTED TO ENSURE THE
PROTECTION OF THE WIDE W.
LANGUAGE WHO DOES NOT IMPACT.
WHETHER YOU LOST A HOME YOU
WERE INJURED. OR GOD FORBID YOU
LOST A LOVED ONE AYE IN THIS
FIRE. THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT
TO BE A TO POINT OUT THAT THERE
IS STILL AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION
THAT IS. AYE TAKING PLACE AND WE
DO NOT HAVE A FINAL RESULTS OF
THAT INVESTIGATION.
I THINK THE OTHER ITEM I.
THAT IS GONNA NEED TO BE
REVIEWED ARE THOSE S. R. PLANS
AND. BON.
IF ITS FAIR THAT FOR WEEKS
RECOVERY UNDERSTANDING CAN BE
VERY HONEST ABOUT IT HOUSE SLOW
THE PEACE HE PROCESSES.
UNDERSTAND THAT AND I AM IN FULL
AGREEMENT THEY NEED TO PICK UP
PACE WHEN IT COMES TO THE REVIEW
NOT JUST ON THIS ISSUE BUT SO
MANY MORE.
BUT I IS TWELVE MONTHS REALLY
REALISTIC AND I THINK THAT'S AN
ITEM THAT.
HE IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON
AND.
.
IN.
CANDIDLY HE'S A PERSON OF HIS
WORD AND IS ALWAYS A FOCUS.
LA.
ON THOSE ITEMS THAT HE ADVANCES.
AND THEN THE.
THE FINAL ITEM ON THIS ISSUE IS
ON THE DISTRIBUTED ENERGY AS
SENATOR DODD NIGH.
BOTH REPRESENT A NUMEROUS CCA'S
IN THE NORTH BAY AND KNOW THAT
HE'S ALREADY HAD STARTED HAVING
THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND.
.
AS WE DISCUSSED.
HE'S COMMITTED BETTER WORK ON
THIS IN THE COMING WEEKS IN
BEFORE THIS EVEN GETS THE FLOOR
AND OBVIOUSLY WOULD RESERVE THE
RIGHT IBM AND NOT SUPPORTED ON
THE FLOOR BUT I THINK ALSO
GIVING. CENTER DODD THE BENEFIT
OF THE DOUBT I TO BE ABLE TO
WORK THIS IN HE WORKS HIS ISSUES
REALLY HARD I ANY SINCERE ON
THAT. IN WILL BE SUPPORTING A
HERE TODAY WITH UNDERSTANDING
THOSE ARE THE THREE AREAS THAT
ARE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE
WORKED OUT. PRICES INFLUENCE WAS
A THANK YOU CENTERS ARE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
.
AND YOU KNOW HAVING GONE THROUGH
THOMAS FIRE.
SEEING WHAT IT'S LIKE OUT ON THE
GROUND.
AND WATCHING.
NO LOCAL FIRE CHIEFS.
I LEAVE THEIR FAMILY AND WATCH
THEIR HOUSE BURNED DOWN WHILE
THE WHAT'S AND SAVED ENTIRE
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE TRAGEDY
AND HEROISM IN ALL THIS IS.
IS HEAVY SO I APPRECIATE THE.
THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH
YOU'RE TAKING ALL THIS AND WE
AND OUR FIND OURSELVES IN.
KHILADI REGULATION LAND THAT WE
DIDN'T REALLY PRO EXPECT TO GET
THEREAFTER.
TRAGEDIES BUT HERE WE ARE THE
DETAILS TO MATTER SO I WANT TO
TRY TO GET SOME.
A LITTLE MORE REFINEMENT OF YOUR
COMMITMENTS THAT YOU MADE UP
FRONT WHICH I APPRECIATE THAT
WILLINGNESS BUT I I NEED I NEED
SOMETHING CLEAR.
TO GO FORWARD AND.
FIRST THING I WONDER RAISES THE.
THE SAFETY PLANS OR I'M SORRY
THE SAFETY RELIABILITY.
AND RESILIENCY PLANS THAT.
UTILITIES ARE COMING ARE WILL
CAN BE REQUIRED TO WEAR THIS
BILL. ARE BROADER THAN JUST
VIRUS.
IT'S VIRUS FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
AND THEN ITS SUBSEQUENT PLANS
ADDRESSING RISK ASSOCIATED WITH
ROUTINE OPERATION.
AND ALL MAJOR EVENTS WHICH IS A
BIG SCOPE.
THAT ALSO WILL TOUCH EARLY SO
CAN IN MY BACKYARD.
AND SO.
WHEN THE PC STILL HASN'T GONE
THROUGH THEIR ROOT CAUSE
ANALYSIS ANSWER HASN'T MADE A
FINDING OF REASONABLENESS AND
PRUDENT UNDER EXISTING LAW NOT
ANY NEW FRAMEWORK.
I JUST WANNA GET CLARITY FROM
YOU.
COULD THIS AFFECT.
THOSE OUTCOMES OF THOSE
PROCEEDINGS.
IF THEY'RE NOT YET DONE BY THE
TIME THIS BILL IS ENACTED INTO
LAW.
IT MAY BE JUST YOUR COUNSELOR.
SENATORS DURING THE ANSWER IS NO.
THE REVIEW OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY
REVIEW UNDER THIS BILL IS
ACCOUNTABILITY REVIEW OF THE
UTILITIES COMPLIANCE WITH AN
APPROVED PLAN.
AND SINCE ALL THE ONLY SO CANYON.
MISHAP OCCURRED WHEN THERE WAS
NO PLAN IN PLACE.
THIS BILL WOULD NOT COVER THE
REVIEW FOR EARLY SICKENING.
SO EVEN IF THE SUBSEQUENT PLAN
IS ADDRESSING RISKS ASSOCIATED
BECAUSE THE THE INCIDENT ITSELF
OCCURRED PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION
OF THAT PLAN.
IT WOULDN'T PRESCRIBE EXACTLY
OKAY SO LET ME JUST PICK WITHIN
THE THOMAS FIRE VICTIMS.
I'M THE BECOME THE LOAN VENTURA
COUNTY MEMBER ON THIS SITE I DO
OF THE EXTRA DUTY DID.
RAISE THEIR ISSUE SO ON THIS
QUESTION OF LIABILITY THAT I
KNOW SENATORS MCGUIRE AND HILL
BOTH RAISED.
.
THE CONCERN IS NOT ABOUT STRICT
LIABILITY AND IMPACTING THAT I'D
I'D I I AGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR
COMMITMENT THAT THIS DOESN'T.
THAT DOESN'T IMPACT STRICT
LIABILITY PROCEEDS FROM WHAT I
CAN TELL.
.
BUT WHEN IT COMES A NEGLIGENCE
AND AREAS WHERE THEY WORK
PRUDENT.
MY.
GENERAL THIS POSITION IS THAT
THE PC IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST.
ARBITER OF WHAT IS REASONABLE
AND PRUDENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE THE BENEFIT OF AN ACTUAL
JUDICIAL PROCEEDING WHEN YOU
GOING TO A COURTROOM AND YOU'RE
ABLE TO DEPOSE AND CROSS EXAMINE
A WITNESS A C. OVER UTILITY.
WHOEVER IT MAY BE.
IT'S A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF
SCRUTINY THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN
LIKE AN ALJ PROCEEDING FOR
INSTANCE.
AT THIS PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION DIFFERENT LEVEL
TRANSPARENCY BUT ALSO JUST A
DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY IN
EXPERT
SO I I'M.
I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT THE.
THAT SORT OF.
THE BIG.
CATCH ALL FOR ALL PURPOSES AT
THE END OF THIS THIS PROVISION
IN QUESTION ONE COMPASS
EVERYTHING SO.
I NEED MORE THAN JUST A
COMMITMENT TO WORKING ON THE
ISSUE LIKE.
WE GOT TO GET THAT FIXED AND I
CAN'T VOTE ON THE BILL UNLESS I
KNOW.
IT'S IT'S NOT GOIN TO AFFECT
THE CIVIL PROCEEDINGS.
THERE'S TOO MANY FOLKS HERE AND
BACK AT HOME SO I JUST NEED TO
HEAR THAT MORE CLEARLY. SENATOR
STERN THREE THINGS FIRST AS YOU
IDENTIFIED NOTHING IN THIS BILL
TOUCHES STRICT LIABILITY. THAT'S
A WHOLE SEPARATE ISSUE IT'S A
HUGE ISSUE BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS
BILL. SO ALL OF THE CLAIMS. OF
ALL OF THE VICTIMS WHICH ARE
BASED ON STRICT LIABILITY ARE
COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY
UNAFFECTED BY THIS BILL.
THIS IS A PROSPECTIVE BILL ONLY.
AND.
SO THAT'S FIRST THING.
SECOND
THE WORDS FOR ALL PURPOSES THE
LAST THREE WORDS IN THE BILL
WHICH ARE THE WORDS CAUSING MANY
PEOPLE LOTS OF CONCERN. WILL
LIKELY BE REMOVED.
.
THIRD THE FINDING THAT THE
COMMISSION MAKES IS A FINDING
THAT THE UTILITY WAS REASONABLE
AND PRUDENT.
IT IS NOT BINDING. ON A COURT
FINDING NEGLIGENCE.
IT WOULD BE IT MAY BE
INSTRUCTIVE.
BUT NEGLIGENCE IS NOT IDENTICAL
TO REASONABLE AND PRUDENT.
SO THE.
THE COURT WHAT YOU KNOW THERE
WAS STILL IT IF WE'RE IN A WORLD
OF NEGLIGENCE RESIDENTS REQUIRE
ABILITY.
THE COURT WOULD STILL BE.
MAKING THE TERMINATION THE CEO
WOULD STILL BE THERE UNDER CROSS
EXAMINATION.
JUSTICE IT AS THAT PERSON WOULD
BE TODAY. WHAT THE BUT NOT IN
THE CURRENT BILL SHALL BE DEEMED
REASONABLE PRUNE FOR ALL
PURPOSES?
THAT WOULD HAVE WOULD AFFECTED
THE COURT I MEAN THAT WHAT THEY
WOULD HAVE TO THEN DEFERRED TO
THE LEGISLATURE. NOT THE P. C.
BUT THE LEGISLATURE'S
WORD I MEAN THAT'S THRIFT WRITE
THE WORDS FOR ALL PURPOSES THOSE
ARE GOING TO COME OUT.
YEAH FURTHERMORE YOU SAID LIKELY
TO COME OUT THEY ARE COMING OUT.
AND THAT THERE'S JUST AIDID
THAT'S MY COMMITMENT THEY ARE
COMING OUT.
INTO IT AND BY THE WAY THAT WAS
PART OF THE AMENDMENT THAT.
.
THE.
.
OPPONENTS. WATERS DO SO THAT
GREAT BUT WE'RE GONNA AGREE
WE'RE GONNA AGREE TO CONTINUE
WORKING.
TO TRY.
WE GOT YOU GOT YOU THREAD THE
NEEDLE THROUGH. THE ONE OF THE
REQUEST ON THAT FRONT AS I FIND
THE TERM SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE
RATHER VAGUE SO IF YOU COULD
FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE PROVIDED
THE MORE CLEARLY I DON'T KNOW
WHAT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE
MEANS. WE MISS SOME WE DIDN'T
MISS SOME I WANT WE WANT. WE
WANT FULL COMPLIANCE NOT
SUBSTANTIAL WE WANT FULL THE
OTHER POINT I WANT TO RAISE AND
I THANK YOU FOR THE INDULGENCE
MISTER CHAIR BUT THIS IS A BIG
DEAL.
.
IS.
WE'RE NOT I AM NOT VOTING ON A
BILL THAT'S GONNA THROW THE
ENTIRE DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
INDUSTRY UNDER THE BUS HERE.
SO THE KIND OF PROVISIONS IN
TWENTY EIGHT NINE NINE DOT THREE
B.. AND C..
PROHIBITING THEM FROM
CONTRACTING OUT.
DEMANDING SORT OF ANYTHING
THAT'S BEING BUILT ON THE
DISTRIBUTED SCALE TO BE OWNED BY
UTILITIES YOU FOR ARE THOSE
ALLEGATIONS AT LEAST.
DO OU RELEASED CAN SEE THEY ARE
WE ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS THE
FACT. IS THAT WHAT THEY WOULD DO.
IN IN YOUR VIEW ABSOLUTELY NOT
OKAY ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THE D. OUR COMMUNITY IS NOW
SUPPORTED BY. MORE THAN FIFTEEN
PROGRAMS AND FUNDING SOURCES.
MANY OF WHICH.
YOU HAVE ADOPTED MANY WHICH IS
STRAIGHT OUT OF LEGISLATION MOST
IMPORTANT OF WHICH IS NOT ENERGY
METERING THAT'S THE MAJOR SOURCE
OF REVENUE. SECOND MOST
IMPORTANT OF WHICH IS THAT YOU
WENT THROUGH THAT LIST BUT I'M
SAYING THIS ABOUT UTILITY
OWNERSHIP OF ANY D. G. BEING
BUILT TO MEET THE RESILIENT
SAYING IT SAFETY. ALL OF THOSE
FIFTEEN MORE THAN FIFTEEN
PROGRAMS ARE NOT AFFECTED BY
THIS BILL THIS RAIL IS YOU ONLY
ADDRESS OWN THOSE REACHED
NO. NO NO CAN'T THEY'RE BIG
THEY'RE BARRED FROM CONTRACTING
OUT.
ONLY FOUR ELEMENTS WHICH ARE
PART OF THEIR DISTRIBUTION
SAFETY AND RELIABILITY PLANNING
ANY.
I MEAN THOSE ARE MY RELIABILITY
YOUR JUDGMENT ADDING LOW TO THE
GREED THAT STABILIZE THE THUNDER
STERN. AT THIS MOMENT.
THERE ARE PRECISELY ZERO DOLLARS
ZERO DOLLARS GOING TO DISTRIBUTE
ENERGY RESOURCES FOR
DISTRIBUTION RELIABILITY.
ALL OF THE D. E. R.'S ALL WE
THINK ABOUT THE DECLARED THE
STORAGE OUT THERE THAT'S ALL FOR
FLATTENIN THE DUCK CURVE.
THAT'S NOT DISTRIBUTION
RELIABILITY.
THE STORAGE FOR IT. OF THE
PLASTIC CASE
THAT'S ALL ABOUTTRANSMISSION
LEVEL RELIABILITY IT'S A
MICROGRAM THAT AT SOME ENERGY
STORAGE THAT HAD SOME SOLAR. YES
WOULD BAR ANY NON UTILITY
OWNERSHIP BUT THAT'S IT.
RESPECTFULLY SENATOR NO NO I
CREEK MICROGRAMS HARTMUT
CRICKETS BEHIND THE METER. THIS
BILL DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING
BEHIND THE METER.
BECAUSE THE UTILITY DISTRIBUTION
INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY GOES UP TO
THE METER. MICHAEL GETS BEHIND
THE METER THEY'RE NOT AFFECTED
BY THIS WE DON'T APPLY.
NOT ALL MY GROUP READS YET THE
DEFINITION OF A MICRO GREED IS
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ISLAND
IT AT THE.
CEBU XIN METER.
AT THAT THE METER SO EVERYTHING
THAT'S BEHIND THE BEER IS ON
AFFECTED.
SO LET'S JUST SORT THIS AGAIN
SORRY FOR THE.
THE DEEP DIVE BUT IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT SO I JUST I WANNA HEAR
THE COMMITMENT I FROM THE AUTHOR
YOUR SPONSORS.
THE INTENT HERE IS NOT JUST TO
YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST.
PREVENT.
IMPACTING INNOVATION IN D. R.
BECAUSE THAT'S A BROAD WHERE
WHAT WHAT IT MEANS DID NOT
STIFLE INNOVATION BUT I'M
TALKING ABOUT REARRANGING THE
OWNERSHIP MODEL THROUGH THIS TO
BAR.
BAR ANY.
SOLAR COMPANIES NEW START UP I
WANT UTILITIES IN THIS SPACE TO
EVANSVILLE SAYING UTILITIES
SHOULD OWN SOME OF THIS.
ARCHITECTURE I THINK IT'S A GOOD
THING BUT I DON'T WANT TOBUY IS
THE COMPETITION IN THE MARKET
THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
MR SHIRTS GOT WHICH OF BEHALF OF
OF Q. AND IS THAT WE.
AS THE SPONSOR NOT SPEAKING FOR
THE AUTHOR WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT.
THE BILL MOVING IN THE DIRECTION
OF CLARIFYING.
THIRD PARTY DE OUR CONTRACTORS
CAN OWN AND OPERATE THIS.
ABSOLUTELY WE JUST HAD TO DO
WITH THE FACT OF THAT WHO IS
LIABLE AND RESPONSIBLE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PIECE OF
EQUIPMENT.
IF THAT BATTERY EXPLODES AND
CREATES A FIRE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE FOR US AT
HAND WE ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT
THEY WILL BE THE PREPONDERANCE.
OF DR PROJECT OWNERS AND UTILITY
HAS HAVE A ROLE BUT NOT AS LARGE
A ROLE AS THEY HAVE.
THAT'S WERE AT.
SO WORK FREE I MEAN IN TERMS OF
THAT TOTALLY WORKS FOR ME AND
THE OTHER SILICON VALLEY
LEADERSHIP GROUP THAT. HAS
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
YEAH I I REALLY FIRST OF ALL A
LOT A LOT OF HAD GREAT COGENT
POINTS THAT.
THAT I AGREED WITH THAT I AM A
COMMITTED TO THEM ALREADY WHEN
THEY WERE MY OFFICE.
EARLIER THIS WEEK TO WORK ON BUT
SPECIFICALLY THOSE POINTS BY THE
SILICON VALLEY LEADERSHIP GROUP
ARE SPOT ON AND I MY MY GOAL IS
TO STRIVE TO GET THEM ON BOARD
ON THIS BILL.
.
IN BUT IT IT DOES TALK ABOUT
INNOVATION BUT IT ALSO TALKS
ABOUT OWNERSHIP I HAVE NO
PROBLEM WITH THEM. YOU HAVE A
OWNERSHIP OF THE THINGS I THINK
THAT.
.
MISTER WHICH MADE YOU KNOW
PRETTY CLEAR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE
OWNERSHIP OF THE TO THE GOT
RESPONSIBILITIES OF IT AS WELL
SO. VERY VERY INTERESTED IN
WORKING TO.
THREAD THE NEEDLE ON THIS ISSUE
TOO I KNOW THAT I HAVE THREE
ISSUES.
THAT I HAVE TO DO THAT OUGHT
SENATOR AND.
YOU'VE GOT MY COMMITMENT THAT
YOU ALL EITHER GET IT DONE OR UP
ALL THE BILL NOW MOVES I'LL I'LL
WILL EXHIBITORS HIS CLOSING
COMMENTS BANG SCEPTER MOTION.
I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL FOR
THE PRIZE THE ROLE UNCERTAIN
FUTURE.
YES SIR I DON'T QUESTION.
YOU TURN ON YOUR LIGHTS I KNOW
THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE CAN CENTER THANK YOU
ON A.
I I SHARE.
A LOT OF OUR CENTERS TURNS OUR
CONCERNS.
ANTI.
.
AND ON IS I THINK ITS D. OUR
STUFF IN THIS BILL SHOULD BE
STRIPPED OUT.
THAT'S MY VIEW AND IF YOU LOOK
AT THE. ON THE DEFINITIONS OF
DISTRIBUTION GRID CITY REALIZED
THAT I MEAN THEY ARE BROADER.
.
THAT. WHAT YOU JUST SAID?
?
WE CAN DEBATE THAT ARE BUT. IT'S
IT'S CURRY CAN BE READ THOSE
DEFINITIONS CAN BE READ IN A
VERY BROAD WAY.
AND I I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT
THIS BILL COULD HOBBY I BELIEVE
UNINTENDED.
A FACTOF UNDERMINING I'D
DISTRIBUTED GENERATION I INSTEAD
OF CALIFORNIA OF.
BY REQUIRING THAT IT BE OWNS.
BY UTILITY AND THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT I AM ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO.
I AM SO I I.
.
I GUESS I JUST WANNA LIKE TO
HEAR FROM YOU A LITTLE MORE
SPECIFICALLY SENATOR IN TERMS OF
YOUR COMMITMENT. TO ADDRESS SIDE.
AND TO IT WHAT WHAT EXACTLY IS
GOING TO HAPPEN.
WITH THIS BILL AYE AND IN THAT
RESPECT BECAUSE ONCE I GET OUT
OF THIS COMMITTEE.
.
WE LOSE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER IT
DIFFERENT DYNAMIC ON THE FLOOR.
IN THIS CASE.
NOT IN THIS CASE WE'RE WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR ON ON THE
AMENDMENTS.
OKAY I COULD WE COULD MY OFFICE
PICKUP IN THE LOOP ON THAT WE
JUST WANNA BE PART OF THAT
PROCESS. AND I COULD THE BILL BE
CALLED BACK IF IT HITS A WE
COULD YES.
OKAY.
OKAY WITHAM. WITHOUT INSURANCE
ACTS AND TERRY DOT IF YOU COULD
JUST
COMMENT.
BECAUSE I THINK MY LAST COUNT
LAST COMMENT TO CENTER STERN.
.
YA SAID IT ALL AYE AYE BUT YOU
KNOW WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION.
TO.
DE ARE.
YELLOW.
CONCERNS AND WORKING WITH THEM
TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THOSE
CONCERNS FIRST AND FOREMOST
WOULD BE OWNERSHIP.
OF ASSETS I THINK YOU HEARD
QUITE CLEARLY THAT THAT'S BY BUT
IF THERE IS.
IF THEY'RE GONNA OWN THOSE
ASSETS THERE'S THERE'S
SOME RESPONSIBILITY THERE THOSE
ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
BETWEEN THE INDUSTRY AND US AND.
WHAT THE BILL'S SPONSOR
WHATEVER FAVOR WITH FEE
INDEMNITY?
I GET IF YOU OWN AT.
YOU KNOW IN ANY OF THOSE
CONTRACTS THAT THE AND THAT THE
SOLAR OR. STELLAR INDUSTRY
ENTERS INTO PAID THERE'S ALWAYS
GOING TO BE AND THEN THE IN THAT
CONTRACT. OF WHAT THE LANGUAGE
AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD
BE POTENTIALLY ADDED IN HERE. IT
PUTS IT IN THE STATUE IT IS MUCH
BROADER.
AND SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK
IT'S A SOLUTION TO SAY WILL
VALUE TO OWNER. WE'RE GONNA PUT
THIS NUCLEAR.
INDEMNITY PROVISION AND THAT
PUT YOU KNOW GOING BEYOND
ANYTHING YOU WOULD BE
CONTRACTUALLY REQUIRED TO
INDEMNIFY FORCE THAT. COULD END
UP HAVING THE SAME EFFECT BY
MAKING IT. ECONOMICALLY
IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY
OWN ACROSS THE INDEMNITY IS SO.
BROAD AND IMPACTFUL THAT'S NOT
OUR INTENTION TO HAVE.
YA AMENDMENTS THAT.
YEAH THAT THEY COULD DO THAT AT
AGAIN AS I SAID THIS IS
SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO
TALK TO BOTH SIDES ON. THIS IS A
AND YOU HAVE THE THIRD ISSUE
THAT WE HAVE TO THREAD A NEEDLE
ON IT CAN BE DIFFICULT. BUT I'VE
GIVEN THE CHAIR ASSURANCES THAT.
.
YOU KNOW I'LL GET IT DONE A POLL
BILL.
OKAY SO I ON BASED ON OF THESE
REPRESENTED I'M GOING TO SUPPORT
MOVING THE BILL FORWARD TODAY TO
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
MY OFFICE WILL BE INVOLVED AS
WE LIKE TO BE INVOLVED. AND DIE
IF SIDE IF.
WE WE WILL RE EVALUATE WHEN IT
COMES TO THE FLOOR I'M NOT
COMMITTING TO VOTING FOR IT ON
THE FLOOR A BUT I APPRECIATE
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TO ENGAGE.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION QUICKLY BECAUSE
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DO PASS A GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE HUESO.
AYE HUESO AYE MORALE.
BRADFORD.
CANNELLA AYE CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG AYE HILL.
HILL NO MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE
SKINNER STERN. STERN AYE VITA
AYE AYE BIDAK AYE WIENER AYE
WIENER AYE.
SEVEN TWENTY HAS. PLAYED ON THE
BILL HAS ENOUGH VOTES WILL HOLD
THE ROLE OF PREFER ABSENT
MEMBERS SOME WILL CALL THE NEXT.
PRESENTER.
I'LL.
SKINNER WINNER COULD ERASE
PRESENT.
PRINT CLEAR THE ROOM UNLESS
THAT'S LARA WALKED INTO.
NOW GO AHEAD CENTER WAS HERE.
YEAH.
IF. YOU GOT RID OF HIM. LEADERS.
WINNERS NEXT.
HAVE YOU SPECIAL.
I KNOW. YOU DID.
THE WAITER.
SORRY. DRUMMING AWAY HER KNOW
WHAT EVERY RED.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN ARE
AND I WANT TO BEGIN BY.
BY THANKING THE CHAIR AND HIS
STAFF FOR WORKING VERY HARD WITH
US OVER THE PREVIOUS FEW WEEKS
THAT OVER THE LAST.
DARED TO.
ON AMENDMENTS.
TO THE BILL.
AND THE COMMITTEE I HIGHS ARE
DISTRIBUTED ON A NEW MOCKUP OF
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND WE DO
ACCEPT THOSE AMENDMENTS SO AGAIN
MISTER CHAIRMAN THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR WORKING. OF WITH US.
COLLEAGUES SP EIGHT TWENTY TWO
ESTABLISHES A STRONG AYE NET
NEUTRALITY REQUIREMENT IN
CALIFORNIA.
BY.
PANNING.
UNFAIR.
AND ANTI COMPETITIVE PRACTICES.
AND FRANKLY MONOPOLISTIC
PRACTICES BY INTERNET SERVICE
PROVIDERS STEP BLOCK FOR SLOW
ACCESS TO WEBSITES. OR
DISCRIMINATE AMONG WEBSITES OR
APPLICATIONS.
FUNDAMENTALLY THIS BILL IS ABOUT
NOT ALLOWING INTERNET SERVICE
PROVIDERS ARE ISPS OUGHT TO PICK
WINNERS AND LOSERS OR FORCING
CONSUMERS TO USE ONLY FAVORITE
SERVICES.
INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS THESE
OF THE PIPES OF THE INTERNET.
IT'S THE ON RAMP IT'S THE OFF
RAMP.
AND WE MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS
AS CONSUMERS AS BUSINESSES ABOUT
WHERE TO GO ON THE INTERNET AND
WHAT TO ACCESS THE ISPS. COULD
NOT BE MAKING THAT DECISION FOR
US.
A FREE AND OPEN INTERNET.
IS CRITICAL TO OUR DEMOCRACY.
I TO OUR ECONOMY.
I'VE TO SO MUCH OF MODERN TWENTY
FIRST CENTURY LIFE.
WITHOUT STRONG THAT NEUTRALITY
PROTECTIONS WE SERIOUSLY RISK
AND INTERNET MANIPULATED.
BY ISPS FOR ECONOMIC GAIN.
SLOW LANES AND FAST LANES
DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH A WEBSITE
PAYS. ECONOMIC INDUCEMENTS TO
USE AN ISP'S OWN SERVICES OVER
OTHER COMPETITORS SERVICES AND
SO FORTH. WE NEED TO AVOID THESE
PRACTICES AND WE WILL ONLY DO SO
WITH STRONG LEGAL PROTECTIONS.
ON DECEMBER FOURTEENTH TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN I DONALD
TRUMP'S FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION ON ELIMINATED.
NET NEUTRALITY PROTECTIONS
REVERSED THE TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN OBAMA.
RULES ON NET NEUTRALITY.
THIS ACTION REVERSED NOT JUST
THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER BUT
MORE THAN FIFTEEN YEARS OF
CAREFUL BIPARTISAN WORK.
TO KEEP THE INTERNET OPEN FOR
SPEECH ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
AND INNOVATION.
THE FCC'S TWENTY SEVENTEEN ORDER
COMPLETELY AND IT.
CLEARLY HANDED THE FCC'S ROLE IN
ENFORCING THAT TRIAL IT WAS
OUTRAGEOUS.
I'VE AND WE DO NOT JUST GO BACK
TO THE TWENTY FIFTEEN STATUS QUO.
THEY GOT RID OF EVERYTHING.
OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS MY
STAFF AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO IN
THAT WITH AND WORKED WITH
ACADEMICS.
BUSINESS LEADERS.
HIGHEST PIECE WITHOUT AN OPEN
DOOR TO THE ISP'S.
FCC COMMISSIONERS INCLUDING.
TOM WHEELER.
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FCC UNDER
PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO CRAFTED
TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER AND WHO HAS
ENDORSED THIS BILL. ADVOCATES
RESIDENTS AND SO FORTH TO CRAFT
A STRONG BILL THAT WILL PROTECT
OUR INTERNET ACCESS.
DURING HIS CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE
WORKED HARD TO CRAFT A BILL THAT
WILL WITHSTAND LEGAL CHALLENGES.
AYE WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE
FCC HAS THE POWER TO PREEMPT
STATE ACTION AS THEY PURPORT TO
DO IN THEIR ORDER CONGRESS HAS
NOT ENACTED. ANY KIND OF
PREEMPTIVE OF LEGISLATION AND WE
HAVE BEEN VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE
LEGAL CONSTRAINTS OF DOING THIS
AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WE
BELIEVE THAT OUR APPROACH.
EYES DEFENSIBLE.
IN ADDITION.
TO VICE CHAIRMAN WHEELER OTHER
FORMER COMMISSIONERS OF THE FCC
HAVE ENDORSED BY THE BILL YOU
ALSO. SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THIS
MORNING A LETTER FROM OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL HAVEA TO SARAH
AYE ENDORSING THE BILL.
ODD SINCE THE BEGINNING WE'VE
NOT RUSH THE PROCESS COMPLICATED
ISSUE BUT WE ARE WORKING THOUGHT
ECCLES TO PUT TOGETHER A STRONG.
A BILL.
I.
CALIFORNIANS WANT TO PROTECT NET
NEUTRALITY AND THIS IS NOT A
PARTISAN ISSUE THE POLLING IS
OVERWHELMING BOTH DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS. ARE AYE. PEOPLE
WANT A FREE AND OPEN INTERNET
AND THEY WANT THESE PROTECTIONS.
BUT SO ARE COLLEAGUES AGAIN.
WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS I KNOW THERE WAS A.
CONCERN OF WHEN CENTER DALY OWNS
BILL WITHIN THE COMMITTEE AND
HAD A BROAD CPUC. LARGER SECTION
THAT WAS REMOVED.
ORIGINAL BILL HAD MUCH MORE
LIMITED CPUC OPTUS VISION OF WE
HAVE.
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE
FOUND THE WAY TO REMOVE THE CPU
SEES ROLE ENTIRELY OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF WILL BE.
THE PRIMARY ENFORCER OF THESE.
PROTECTIONS.
SO OUR COLLEAGUES ON THIS IS A
GOODBILL I'VE DESERVES TO MOVE
FORWARD AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR AYE VOTE.
Y. OF TWO WITNESSES HERE TO
TESTIFY WITH ME TODAY.
BARBARA THEN SHE VIC WHO IS A
PROFESSOR AT STANFORD LAW SCHOOL
AND DIRECTOR OF STANFORD CENTER
FOR INTERNET AND SOCIETY. AND
THE SHAFER WHO'S THE CEO COMMUNICATIONS.
AND WHO HAS PERSONAL FIRST HAND
EXPERIENCE WITH OF WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN I S. P.'S ENGAGE IN THIS
KIND OF ANTI COMPETITIVE AND
UNFAIR BEHAVIOR TOWARDS OTHER
BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR VIDAK.
HIM ANYWAY SO IT SENATORS THANK
YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TESTIFY
TODAY.
I'M A PROFESSOR AT STANFORD LAW
SCHOOL AND DIRECTOR CENTER FOR
INTERNET AND SOCIETY.
AND I'M A LAWYER BUT I ALSO HAVE
A PHD IN COMPUTER SCIENCE.
I AM HERE AS AN INDEPENDENT
ACADEMIC WHO HAS WORKED ON NET
NEUTRALITY FOR SEVENTEEN YEARS.
THE FCC'S TWENTY TEN AND TWENTY
FIFTEEN OPEN INTERNET RULES RELY
HEAVILY ON MY WORK.
AS DO THE INDIAN AND CANADIAN
ARTISTS ON ZERO RATING AND THE
EUROPEAN UNION'S NET NEUTRALITY
GUIDELINES.
TODAY YOU HAVE AN AMAZING
OPPORTUNITY.
YOU CAN BRING BACK NET
NEUTRALITY TO CALIFORNIA.
AND RESTORE THE IMPORTANT
PROTECTIONS THAT THE FCC VOTED
TO ELIMINATE IN THE SUMMER.
THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
THESE ARE THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
OPEN INTERNET RULES.
AND THIS IS THE THREE HUNDRED
PAGE ORDER THAT ADOPTED THESE
RULES.
MOST STATE EFFORTS LIKE SENATOR
DE LEON SPILL. SIMPLY COPIED
SOME OR ALL OF THE RULES FROM
THIS.
BUT THAT MISSES ALL OF THE
IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS THAT THE
FCC INCLUDED IN THE TEXT OF THE
ORDER.
BY CONTRAST THIS BILL WAS
CAREFULLY CRAFTED TO INCLUDE
BOTH THE TWENTY FIFTEEN RULES
AND THE IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS
FROM THE TEXT OF THE ORDER.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO SPECIAL.
IT'S THE ONLY STATE LEVEL A BILL
THAT FULLY RESTORE US ALL OF THE
TWENTY FIFTEEN NET NEUTRALITY
PROTECTION.
THAT'S WHY IT'S WIDELY VIEWED AS
A NET NEUTRALITY MODEL BILL.
AND THAT'S WHY TO FCC CHAIRMAN
TOM WHEELER WHO LITERALLY WROTE
THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDA.
PORTS THIS BILL.
TODAY. THE INTERNET IS A SPACE
WHERE EVERY CALIFORNIAN.
NO MATTER THE COLOR OF THEIR
SKIN OF THE SIZE OF THE WALLETS
HAS AN EQUAL CHANCE OF REACHING
PEOPLE ONLINE.
IT'S A SPACE WHERE WE THE PEOPLE
NOT A TNT AND COMCAST.
THE CHAIRMAN WHAT SUCCEEDS AND
OUR ECONOMY OUR CULTURE AND OUR
DEMOCRACY.
I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE TO KEEP IT
THAT WAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
THANK YOU BARBARA A THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
HE COMMITTEE THANK YOU CEREMONY
OR FOR THE. BILL INTRODUCTION.
I'M DAVE SHAPE FOR THE CEO OF
COGENT COMMUNICATIONS
OF WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST
CARRIER OF INTERNET TRAFFIC IN
WORLD WE CARRY ABOUT TWENTY ONE
PERCENT. OF THE WORLD'S TRAFFIC.
VERY FEW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE
PLUMBING OF THE INTERNET THEY
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INTERNET CAN
DO FOR THEM BUT THEY DON'T
UNDERSTAND. HOW THE INFORMATION
IS ACTUALLY TRANSMITTED FROM ONE
LOCATION TO ANOTHER?
AND WE AS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF
THE INTERNET ECOSYSTEM GLOBALLY.
I HAVE EXPERIENCED CONGESTION
THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY CAUSED BY
ISPS VIOLATING NET NEUTRALITY.
MANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE
OPPOSED SHOULD NET NEUTRALITY
HAVE VERTICALLY INTEGRATED
BUSINESS MODELS.
WERE NOT ONLY DO THEY PROVIDE
INTERNET CONNECTIVITY THEY ALSO
HAVE THEIR OWN COMPETING
SERVICES WHICH THEY PROVIDE
WHETHER THEY BE VOICE VIDEO OR
OTHER APPLICATIONS.
AND IN RETARDING THE QUALITY OF
INTERNET SERVICE THEREIN
SCENTING CUSTOMERS TO USE THOSE
MORE EXPENSIVE. MORE ANTIQUATED
VERTICALLY INTEGRATED SERVICES.
THE INTERNET PROVIDES CONSUMERS
THE ULTIMATE IN CHOICE THEY CAN
GO TO ANY SITE AT ANY TIME AND
REACH ANY APPLICATION THAT IS
AWFUL AND LEGAL.
CONVERSELY ANY ENTREPRENEUR CAN
START A BUSINESS AND REACH A
WORLDWIDE MARKETPLACE.
I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH MY
CAREER TOOK STARTED SEVEN
COMPANY XIN TAKEN SEVERAL OF
THEM PUBLIC.
AND ARE IT IS THIS INNOVATION
THAT THE INTERNET HAS SPAWNED.
THAT IS TRULY SOMETHING THAT
NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. AND I
BELIEVE THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION ADEQUATELY ADDRESSES.
ALL OF THE CONCERNS WHETHER THEY
BE ZERO RATING.
PRIORITIZATION OF PACKETS WERE
LIMITATION OF AN AMERICAN
ACTIVITY.
LOCAL MONOPOLISTS HAVE LONG
SOUGHT TO CHANGE THE WAY IN
WHICH THE INTERNET WORKS.
TELEPHONE NETWORKS HAD ALWAYS A
BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON A SETTLEMENT
BASIS WORK PARTIES PAID
SETTLEMENTS TO ONE ANOTHER TO
EXCHANGE TRAFFIC.
INTERNET VAULT OUTSIDE OF THAT
REGIME THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN
PROBLEMATIC FOR LEGACY I SP.
AND AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THOSE
HIGHEST PIECE OF ATTEMPTED TO
* THE QUALITY OF SERVICE TO
CUSTOMERS AND TRIED TO ESTABLISH
A TWO SIDED TOLD MODEL ON
CUSTOMERS.
THIS BILL WOULD PREVENT THAT
FROM HAPPENING.
SO WHY AM SOMEONE WHO TYPICALLY
FLOWS REGULATION I STRONGLY
ENDORSE THIS BILL AND ITS
BENEFITS TO THE CONSUMERS AND
CALIFORNIA.
THE OTHERS SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR
POSITION IN A CERTAIN MISTER
CHAIRMAN PAUL YEAR ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN
FRANCISCO MAYOR MARK FARRELL IN
SUPPORT.
TO SHARE EMILY RASH ON BEHALF OF
CAL PERKINS STRONG SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING PAUL GOODMAN ON
BEHALF OF THE GREEN LINING
INSTITUTE CENTER FOR MEDIA
JUSTICE AND THE OVER ONE HUNDRED
MEMBER.
ORGANIZATIONS OF THE MEDIA
ACTION GRASSROOTS NETWORK.
VERY QUICKLY OF INTO THOUSAND
TWELVE SENATOR BRADFORD A CO
WROTE A BILL BASED ON THE
PREMISE THAT THE FCC WAS IN
CHARGE OF REGULATING BROADBAND.
AND CALIFORNIA SHOULD STAY OUT
OF IT.
AND THAT OF MISTER BRADFORD YOU
VERY COURAGEOUSLY SAID IF EVER
COMES THE DAY THAT THE FCC
DECIDES NOT TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS.
THIS BODY WILL STEP IN AND DO IT
AND TODAY IS THIS DAY OF MANY OF
THE OPPONENTS OF A OF THAT BILL
WILL HAVE A SWEET WOULD HAVE US
FORGET THAT. UP BUT WE SUPPORT
THIS BILL THANK.
MARK TONY ON BEHALF OF TURNED
THE UTILITY REFORM NETWORK WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MISTER CHURCHILL RIGHT
OUT ON BEHALF OF CONSUMER ACTION
WE ARE ALSO IN STRONG SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN PERSON AT THE
CORPORATE ON BEHALF OF
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
PRIVACY RIGHTS CLEARINGHOUSE AND
COMMON SENSE KIDS ACTION ALL IN
SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE THINK YOU.
JACK BONNER CALIFORNIA COMMON
CAUSE IN STRONG SUPPORT.
JUST AVAILABLE ME HAVE A CHAIR
OF THE COALITION FOR HUMANE
IMMIGRANT RIGHTS IN STRONG
SUPPORT.
HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED WITH
CALIFORNIA VOICES FOR PROGRESS
WE'RE OVER ONE HUNDRED AND
HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS
OWNERS INVESTORS ENTREPRENEURS
AND PHILANTHROPISTS.
OUR MEMBERS GOT THAT WAY BECAUSE
OF A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD OVER
THE INTERNET WE WANT EVERYONE TO
PROSPER AND THAT NEUTRALITY
PROTECTIONS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR
THAT.
I CRISTINA CAHILL I'M WITH
INDIVISIBLE SACRAMENTO WE HAVE
SEVERAL THOUSAND MEMBERS WERE
ALSO AFFILIATED WITH IN THE BILL
INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG.
MANY THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS AND WE
ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL.
I'M JULIE CHAPMAN WITH
INDIVISIBLE SACRAMENTO WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
ELLEN CHAPMAN WITH INDIVISIBLE
SACRAMENTO AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
WHAT A MISTER MEMBERS KEVIN
BACON AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES
UNION OF CALIFORNIAN THIS BILL
IS REALLY FUNDAMENTAL TO FREE
SPEECH AND FIRED VIBRANT
DEMOCRACY THANK YOU?
MR REMEMBERS CARL LUNDEN HERE ON
BEHALF OF ADT SECURITY COMPANY
ALSO SUPPORT THE BILL THANK YOU.
MORNING CARL WITH HERNANDEZ
STRATEGY REFUND THE OF THE
COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA
DISTRICT NINE ALSO AND FOR.
YEAH COVERAGE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS IN SUPPORT.
YOU'RE JIMENEZ SOME HAVE BREAD
LINES HAVE JUST GO BASED
NONPROFIT. STRONG SUPPORT.
CHARITIES REPRESENTING OFFICER
REPAIR ADVOCATES IN SUPPORT.
SYLVIA SOLELY SHOT BEHALF THE
TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND MEMBERS OF
THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT.
MICHAEL YOUNG WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION ALSO
YOUR SUPPORT.
MICHAEL RIGHT AGAIN ON BEHALF
OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
SANTA CLARA COUNTY.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT TO
HAVE SPEAKERS AN OPPOSITION TO
HAVE A PRESENTATION.
HAVE THE OPPOSITION OR.
YEAH.
A SIX.
YOU MIGHT.
PRETTY CLEAR THE. THE DESK
PLEASE.
FIVE.
REPUTABLE.
ROSARIO.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS BILL DIVINE
AND I REPRESENT A T. AND T.. I
WANTED OPEN BY SAYING EIGHTEEN
T. SUPPORTS AN OPEN INTERNET.
WE DO NOT BLOCK WEBSITES
WE DO NOT CENSOR ONLINE CONTENT
WE DO NOT DEGRADE INTERNET
TRAFFIC.
THESE ARE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE
PUBLISHED ON THE EIGHTEEN T.
WEBSITE. THEY ARE ENFORCEABLE BY
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THE
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL.
HOWEVER TODAY I AM HERE TO
OPPOSE S. B. EIGHT TWENTY TWO.
FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE
ON THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE JUST
REVEALED. A FEW MOMENTS AGO AS
YOU MIGHT IMAGINE WE HAVE HAD
BARELY MINUTES TO REVIEW THOSE
AMENDMENTS.
ARE HOWEVER.
MANY OF THE FLAWS THAT ARE
ALREADY IN THIS BILL HAVE NOT
BEEN CORRECTED BY THOSE
AMENDMENTS WE DO WANT TO THANK
THE COMMITTEE FOR ITS HARD WORK
AND WE DO WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE. FOR REMOVING THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
LET ME MOVE ON WITH MY TESTIMONY
YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE BILL'S
SUPPORTERS. THEY DID NOT RAISE A
SINGLE UNCHECKED VIOLATION OF
LAW TO JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR THIS
LEGISLATION.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THIS
BILL IS BUILT UPON SPECULATION.
THAT SOMEBODY
SOMEWHERE SOMETIME.
IN THE FUTURE.
MIGHT VIOLATE NET NEUTRALITY
RULES.
DESPITE THE AUTHORITY OF THE
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL. AND
FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS.
IN IN SENATOR WINNERS BILL
CALIFORNIA MUST REGULATE THE
INTERNET WE DISAGREE.
SINCE ITS INCEPTION THE INTERNET
HAS BEEN MANAGED TO A FEDERAL
LIGHT TOUCH PART OF REGULATORY
SCHEME. INITIATED BY THE CLINTON
ADMINISTRATION.
EIGHT TWENTY TWO IS A RADICAL
DEPARTURE AWAY FROM ESTABLISH
POLICIES THIS LEGISLATURE OVER
THE LAST DECADE.
ESTABLISHED DIFFICULT. AND HANDS
OFF THE INTERNET LEGISLATION
BOTH SET A LIGHT TOUCH POLICY
FOR CALIFORNIA.
THIS WILL REVERSE THAT POLICY.
OVER THE PAST DECADE
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND
JOB CREATION IN CALIFORNIA HAVE
SOARED UNDER THESE CALIFORNIA
POLICIES.
SINCE NINETEEN NINETY SIX THE
ENTIRE TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND
TECHNOLOGY PROVIDERS HAVE
INVESTED NOTHING HERE THIS ONE
POINT FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS.
IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN A TWENTY
YEAR PERIOD.
IN RECENT YEARS IN CALIFORNIA
ALONE THE INDUSTRY IS SPENDING
UPWARDS OF FIFTEEN TO TWENTY
BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR ON
WIRELINE AND WIRELESS
INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND FINALLY CALIFORNIA IS THE
LEADING INTERNET TECHNOLOGY
EMPLOYER IN THE COUNTRY WITH
OVER ONE MILLION JOBS IN
CALIFORNIA TODAY.
YET SP EIGHT TWENTY TWO WOULD
REVERSE THIS TRAJECTORY BY
IMPOSING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
COMPREHENSIVE COMPLEX AND
FRANKLY VERY CONFUSING STATE
REGULATION OF THE INTERNET.
AS YOUR COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
POINTS OUT THE BILL GOES WELL
BEYOND.
THE FCC ORDER OF TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THE LAST
FOUR ADMINISTRATIONS
STARTING WITH PRESIDENT CLINTON.
AND RUNNING TO THE CURRENT
ADMINISTRATION AND INCLUDING.
THE OBAMA FCC THEY ALL RECOGNIZE
THAT THE INTERNET IS AN
INTERSTATE SERVICE. AND PLACED
FEDERAL PREEMPTION IN ALL NET
NEUTRALITY ORDERS.
THE BEGINNING OF THE INTERNET.
EIGHT TWENTY TWO WOULD REVERSE
THIS AS WELL AS RIVERS
CALIFORNIA'S LONGSTANDING POLICY.
WORSE STILL THE BILL EXPANDS NET
NEUTRALITY ENFORCEMENT BEYOND
THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL.
IT'LL IT'S VAGUE PROHIBITIONS
WOULD BE ENFORCEABLE AT EVERY
LOCAL JURISDICTION.
AS WELL AS BY PRIVATE CITIZENS.
AND ANY STATE OR LOCAL AGENCY
PURCHASING BROADBAND SERVICES
FROM AN INTERNET SERVICE
PROVIDER HOW DO YOU DO THAT IN
PROCUREMENT. AUTHORIZED EVERY
SINGLE AGENCY TO DETERMINE
BEFORE A CONTRACT IS GRANTED
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH NET NEUTRALITY
RULES AND THEN AFTER THE FACT.
IF SOMEONE COMPLAINS INCLUDING
PROTESTING OVER THE ISSUE OF NET
NEUTRALITY.
YOU HAVE TO BLOW UP THE CONTRACT
AND REFUND ALL THE MONEY.
WE THINK IT'S THE COMPLEXITY AND
THE DIFFICULTY IS IMPOSSIBLE.
NOW I DO WANT TO COMMENT ON TWO
QUICK THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS SPOKE ABOUT THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS SPECIFICALLY
RAISED THE ISSUE OF ZERO RATING
WOULD YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT. IT
ALSO RAISED THE ISSUE OF
INTERCONNECTION
IN BOTH INSTANCES THE COMMITTEE
YOUR COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT.
BUT THE TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN FCC
ORDER SPECIFICALLY DID NOT
ADDRESS EITHER ONE OF THOSE
ISSUES
AND INDICATED THAT IF THERE WERE
PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.
THEY WOULD BE EXAMINED ON A CASE
BY CASE BASIS.
.
ZERO RATING IS A PARTICULARLY
STRONG CONSUMER BENEFIT. LET ME
STOP THERE MISTER CHAIRMAN I
KNOW THERE'S OTHERS WHO HEAR
HERE TO TESTIFY AND I DON'T WANT
TO GO ON ALTHOUGH THERE'S PLENTY
MORE TO TALK ABOUT SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS CAROLINE
MCINTYRE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CABLE AND
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION.
I WILL TRY TO AVOID BEING
REPETITIVE HAVE LIKE MY
COLLEAGUE MISTER DEVINE IS
STATED HERE.
AND WE'RE HERE TODAY DEBATING
THIS ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE ACTION
TAKEN BY THE FCC TO REPEAL THE
TWENTY FIFTEEN OPEN INTERNET
ORDER. AND THE FCC'S ADOPTION OF
THE RESTORING INTERNET FREEDOM
ORDER APPROVED IN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN. I WANNA PLAY NOW THAT
BOTH THOSE ORDERS EXPLICITLY
PREEMPTED STATES FROM REGULATING
THE INTERNET INCONSISTENT WITH
THE RIGHT THE FEDERAL REGULATORY
OBJECTIVES.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN
PARTICULAR DIMENSION THE TWENTY
FIFTEEN ORDER IN THAT CHAIRMAN
WHEELER HAS BEEN CITED AS A
SUPPORTER. OF THIS LEGISLATION
IN THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER THE
FCC REAFFIRMED THE LONGSTANDING
CONCLUSION THAT BROADBAND
INTERNET ACCESS SERVICES
REGULATORY PURPOSES.
AND STATED THERE FIRM INTENTION
TO EXERCISE THEIR PREEMPTION
AUTHORITY TO PRECLUDE STATES
FROM IMPOSING OBLIGATIONS ON
BROADBAND SERVICE. BETTER
INCONSISTENT WITH THE CAREFULLY
TAILORED REGULATORY SCHEME THAT
THEY ADOPTED IN THAT TWENTY
FIFTEEN ORDER.
THE LANGUAGE OF THE TWENTY
SEVENTEEN ORDER ALSO WERE THIRTY
PREEMPTION AT THE SAME LEVEL OF
CERTAINTY.
WHILE THE PUBLIC DEBATE
REGARDING NET NEUTRALITY
GENERALLY FOCUSED AND HAS BEEN
FOCUSED ON CONSUMERS AND
PRESERVING THE PERCEIVED
BENEFITS OF THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
ORDER.
S. B. EIGHT TO TWO DEPARTS FROM
A FOCUS ON CONSUMER PROTECTION
GOES BEYOND THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
ORDER AND PROPOSES POLICIES THAT
ARE CONFUSING. MORE RESTRICTIVE
AND DEPRIVE CONSUMERS OF
BENEFITS.
SPECIFICALLY THE FCC TWENTY
FIFTEEN ORDER PROHIBITED
INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS FROM
IMPAIRING OR DEGRADING LAWFUL
INTERNET TRAFFIC. SUBJECT TO
REASONABLE NETWORK MANAGEMENT
STANDARDS.
S. B. EIGHT TWO TWO GOES BEYOND
THAT CON SAT BY ADDING AND
CONFUSING LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS
THE ISP TO PROVIDE.
WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE BILL
IS DIFFERENT TECHNICAL TREATMENT
OF THE NETWORK? AYE NOW THAT'S
BEEN CHANGED I THINK THE WORDING
NOW IS THAT SOMETHING LIKE FOR A
DIFFERENT TYPE OF TREATMENT BUT
LEAVING IT TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL TO DETERMINE EXACTLY
WHAT THAT IS.
IMPORTANTLY S. B. EIGHT TWO TWO
WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY
SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT FOR THE
AVERAGE BROADBAND CONSUMER BUT
WOULD INSTEAD GUARANTEE
UNFETTERED AND FREE ACCESS. TO
HUGE CORPORATE BEYOND WITH USERS
THAT TYPICALLY NEGOTIATE
BUSINESS TO BUSINESS INTERNET
TRAFFIC AGREEMENTS.
S. B. EIGHT TO TEN TO PROHIBITS
ISPS FROM REQUIRING ANY
CONSIDERATION FOR LARGE
BANDWIDTH USERS MONETARY OR
OTHERWISE FOR AN INTERCONNECTION
AGREEMENTS.
THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER DID NOT
PROHIBIT ISPS FROM ENTERING INTO
DIRECT CONNECTIONS OR
COMPENSATION ARRANGEMENTS WITH
LARGER DATA USERS. FOR
TRANSMITTING TRAFFIC TO END
USERS.
THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDERED
NEARLY A THIRD OF THE THIRTY TWO
JUDICATA TRAFFIC EXCHANGE
DISPUTES ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
THIS PROVISION READ LITERALLY
SEEMS TO COMPLETELY AFTER IN THE
MARKET FOR INTERCONNECTION AND
SEEMS TO MANDATE FREE
INTERCONNECTION OR PROHIBIT
NEGOTIATED ARRANGEMENTS.
IF I S. PEACE MUST EXPAND THEIR
NETWORKS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DATA
OF LARGE COMPANIES ECONOMIC
SUGGESTS THAT THAT WOULD SHIFT
OR INCREASE COSTS TO CONSUMERS.
S. B. EIGHT TO TWO. PROHIBITS
PUBLIC ENTITIES FROM PURCHASING
OR PROVIDING FUNDS FOR THE
PURCHASE SAD. SERVICE FROM AN I.
S. P. THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE
RULES OF S. B. EIGHT TO TO. THIS
PROVISION IS ALSO PREEMPTED BY
FEDERAL LAW.
THE SUPREME COURT HAS HELD THAT
STATES MAY NOT USE THEIR
SPENDING POWER TO REGULATE
INDIRECTLY WHAT THEY CANNOT
PERMISSIBILITY REGULATE DIRECTLY.
WHEN S. B. EIGHT TWO TWO. UNDER
A S. B. TEND TO WHAT CONSTITUTES
REASONABLE INTERNET CONDUCT IN
CALIFORNIA WILL BE SUBJECT TO
INTERPRETATION. BY MULTIPLE
JURISDICTIONS AND PRIVATE
PARTIES LEADING TO LITIGATION
DELAY AND EXPENSE.
SIMPLY PLACING NET NEUTRALITY
TERMS IN STATUTE ALLOWING THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL FIFTY EIGHT
DIFFERENT DISTRICT ATTORNES OR
MULTIPLE COUNTY COURTS.
TWO APPLY THEIR OWN DEFINITION
OF WHAT THE MEAN AND HOW THEY
SHOULD BE APPLIED. TO THE
BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS
SERVICE WITH SUBJECT EACH ISP TO
COMPLYING WITH THE PATCHWORK THE
POTENTIALLY CONFLICTING
REQUIREMENTS.
ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT
JURISDICTIONS IN WHICH IT
OPERATES BOTH WITH MAN AND
OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA THE FCC
REGULATIONS CLEARLY INTENDED TO
PREVENT SUCH ACTIVITY. FOR THESE
REASONS WE WERE QUESTIONED ABOUT.
COLLEAGUES HAVE DESCRIBED VERY
WELL MANY OF THE FLAWS A
NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THIS BE A
TWENTY TWO ELECT A FOLK.
PENSION A PHRASE CALLED ZERO
RATING.
.
THINK THAT SERVER MISLEADING
PHRASE WE THINK THE BILL
BASICALLY BANS THE PRACTICE.
OF OFFERING SERVICES LIKE
NETFLIX E. S. P. AND MUSIC IN
CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR WIRELESS
CONTRACT THAT DOESN'T DRAW DOWN
ON YOUR DATA IT'S WILDLY POPULAR.
IT WAS CONSIDERED BY THAT BY THE
TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER. AND THEY
OPTED NOT TO GO NEARLY AS FAR
BENEFIT DIDN'T DEAL WITH IT ALL
THEY ARE OPTED COULD NEARLY AS
FAR AS.
HAS PUT THIS BILL DOES.
UNDERSTANDING THE POPULARITY OF
THAT IT SIMPLY BAD POLICY.
AND THIS BILL AS IF YOU READ THE
PROVISION RELATED TWO ZERO
RATING I HAVE A HARD TIME
INTERPRETING IT.
WE WOULD LOOK AT IT AS UNLIMITED
DATA THE REQUIREMENT OF A
WIRELESS COMPANY TO PROVIDE
UNLIMITED ACCESS TO ITS NETWORK.
UP WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT
WORKS AT ALL.
.
EVEN WITHOUT A BAN ON FREE DATE
OF THE APPLICATION OF THE
NINETEEN THIRTIES STYLE MONOPOLY
REGULATION UNDER THE TWENTY
FIFTEEN ORDER. WAS FOUND TO HARM
CONSUMERS.
THERE IS EXTENSIVE EVIDENCE
SHOWING A DECLINE A BROADBAND
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT
UNPRECEDENTED CURRENTS DURING AN
AREA OF ECONOMIC EXPANSION.
IN THE MOBILE BROADBAND MARKET
ALONE ANNUAL CAPITAL
EXPENDITURES DURING THE TWO
YEARS OF THE.
OF THE TWENTY TWENTY FIFTEEN
ORDER FROM TWENTY FOURTEEN TO
TWENTY SIXTEEN TRUCK NEARLY SIX
BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY.
THE SLOWDOWN AFFECTED MOBILE
PROVIDERS OF ALL SIZES AND
SERVING ALL MARKETS FOR EXAMPLE
SMALL RURAL WIRELESS PROVIDERS
NOTED THAT THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
DECISION. BURDEN THEM WITH
UNNECESSARY AND COSTLY
OBLIGATIONS IN A TAPE AT THEIR
ABILITY TO BUILD AND OPERATE THE
NETWORKS.
THE ANALYSIS POINTS OUT QUITE
WELL IN A NUMBER OF CASES HOW.
THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF
MANY OF THESE PROVISIONS.
WILL HARM.
OR MAY HARM ECONOMICALLY
DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE WE DO NOT
THINK THAT CERTAINLY THE INTENT
BUT WE CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S
THE PRACTICAL IMPACT.
OF THIS MEASURE UP FOR THOSE
REASONS WE ASK PRE NOVA.%
THANK YOU ANYBODY ELSE IN
OPPOSITION COME TO MY COMPLETE
SET YOUR.
NAME POSITION ON WE REPRESENTING.
OF ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
THE IMPACT OF THIS BILL ON OF
BROADBAND DEPLOYMENT IN RURAL
CALIFORNIA. WE UNDERSTAND THAT
pREMOVE SECTION FOUR OF THE BILL
WHICH WOULD HAVE ADDED A NEW NET
NEUTRALITY LATER TO THE PEACE
UC'S. AWARD OF CALIFORNIA
ADVANCED SERVICES FUND GRANTS SO
WE APPRECIATE THAT HOWEVER THERE
STILL SOME REMAINING CONCERN
ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE BILL AND
PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN RURAL
CALIFORNIA.
JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE
RESIDENTS OF RURAL CALIFORNIA
THAT LACK BROADBAND ACCESS ARE
NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT NET
NEUTRALITY THEY WANT INTERNET
ACCESS. SO AGAIN APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS BUT RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE THE BILL.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE MY NAME'S
FATALITIES THAT A SEA OF THE
NATIONAL DIVERSITY COLLECTION
AND NATIONAL ASIAN AMERICAN
COALITION. I REPRESENT THE EIGHT
HUNDRED THOUSAND OF CONSTITUENTS
THAT WE SERVE HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT
THERE'S REALLY NO PROBLEM IN
INTERNET I THINK WE NEED TO
FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN CONTROL.
THE DIGITAL DIVIDE WE GOTTA WORK
ON THAT.
THERE IS THE IN THE THE THE THE
PROBLEM ON NET NEUTRALITY IT'S
REALLY COMPLEX.
MOST PEOPLE REALLY DON'T
UNDERSTAND THAT JUST CALL IT THE
WHAT THEY WANT THESE ACCESS THE
INTERNET.
KEEP VERY INEXPENSIVE. AND I
THINK MOST OF THE CABLE. ARE
DOING THAT SO WE'RE TRYING TO
SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT A
PROBLEM. AND IF WE CAN PLEASE
REALLY FOCUS ON THE BROADBAND
LITERACY SO MANY SENIOR SO MANY
IMMIGRANTS NEED THE BROADBAND
LITERACY. LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT
CALIFORNIA CAN CONTROL ONE THAT LITIGATION WHAT WILL
HAPPEN HERE WHO WILL BE THE
WINNER IT TO A BIT DEL LAWYERS
THAT ALWAYS THE CASE SO.
WE THINK OPEN INTERNET DOUBLE
POLLS AND THE SUPPORT I THINK WE
ALL IN THE SAME PAGE WE OR ONE
OPEN INTERNET. FILM BUT WE
OPPOSE S. B. EIGHT TO DO THANK
YOU.
PLEASE ESTATE YOU NAME YOUR
POSITION ON THE BILL.
AS MRO REPRESENTING THE HACKER
LAB AND WE OPPOSE THE BILL AND
WE ASK YOU TO LOOK AT. THE FACT
THAT IT LIMITS INTERNET ACCESS
FOR MANY.
THE LAN EVENTS IN REPRESENTING
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNICATIONS
ASSOCIATION I JUST WANT TO MERE
OF THE WORD SHARED BY FRONTIER
ON. THE IMPACT ON RURAL
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU AND AN
OPPOSITION.
AS CHAIR MEMBERS SAID JOHN DORY
ABOUT THE CIVIL JUST SOCIAIS XIN.
WERE OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S AT THE
CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT IT
BRINGS ON A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION.
HELLO MY NAME IS SERGEY TAREQ
OFF ON PRESIDENT AND CEO OF
SLAVIC AMERICAN CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE A MEMBERSHIP BASED
ORGANIZATION OF STATEWIDE AND
WE'RE IN THE POSITION. THANK YOU.
A GOOD MONIQUE ANOTHER SERGEI
YOU WANNA GO FOR.
C. ORIGIN AMERICAN MEDIA
PRESENT WANT WHEN ONE RUSSIAN
SPEAKING COUSINS CALIFORNIA WE
END UP WITH.
THANK ATHLETES NOT THROUGH.
HAD A SURE SIVA. HARMONY WITH
MODERNISM WITH THE BLACK TING
THE FACT LITTLE BLACK CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND REPTILES AND FELT WELL WE REPRESENT FOR COUNTIES
IN CALIFORNIA THINK YOU.
ONE GARCIA WITH A CALIFORNIA
HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN.
STRONG OPPOSITION THINK.
HELLO MY NAME A STINK AT ALL OF
THE PRECEDENT THAT WILL SEE
SACRAMENTO'S AND WE OPPOSE IT S.
B. A TWO TO.
CANDY SIMPSON WITH ESCHATON AND
WE OPPOSE THIS BILL.
HELLO GOOD MORNING MICHAEL CHEN
WITH PSYCHES AND CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND WE OPPOSE THIS BILL.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR LERMAN
WITH TECH NET OPEN INDULGENCE
REALLY QUICKLY WANT TO CHECK
THINK SENATOR THAT'S COMMITTEE
STAFF. LOOKING AT OUR CONCERNS
WERE BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE
REGULATION OF THE INTERNET WE
LOOKED THEM BRIEFLY THEM AND
MEN'S I THINK THAT WILL BE ABLE
TO REMOVE OPPOSITION WITH A LOOK
OF DEEP FIBER IN THERE THINK YOU.
AS THE CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE SERVIA GARCIA OUT
WITH GRAYSON HERE IN OPPOSITION
OF THE BILL.
GOOD MORNING CHRISTY REASON
BEHALF OF T. MOBILE ENOUGH.
GOOD MORNING GLENN FUJI NATIONAL
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A PAPA WE
STRONGLY OPPOSE S. B. EIGHT
TWENTY TWO.
GOOD MORNING SIR VOTE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN OPPOSITION.
GONNA SLOW PROBABLY OFFICE
SPRINT IN OPPOSITION.
DRAW COOK UP FOR THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION WERE POST.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS CHRIS MCKAY
WE ON BEHALF OF THE COMPUTING
TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
IN OPPOSITION.
HAMLIN AT SOME BEHALF A
CONSOLIDATED COMMUNICATIONS IN
OPPOSITION.
ONE ARE TOP ON BEHALF OF ORANGE
COUNTY BUSINESS COUNCIL IN
OPPOSITION.
LIKE SHEPARD REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA ASIAN PACIFIC
ISLANDER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
OPPOSITION.
YOUR MEMBERSHIP WILL BE ON THE
HAVE COMCAST OPPOSITION.
MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC.
INTERESTED IN COMMENTING ON THE
BILL.
ANYONE AT ALL OKAY WILL COME
BACK TO COMMITTEE COMMON IN IF I
COULD JUST MAKE SOME. YOU KNOW.
I THINK TOTALITARIAN
DICTATORSHIPS AND MONARCHIES.
ARE NOT VERY POPULAR COUNTRY
FACTOR AT THE VERY.
COR OF WHAT WE.
DON'T SUPPORT IN AMERICA.
AND AND I THINK IF IF YOU WOULD
SIT DOWN AND TALK TO SOMEBODY
ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
MAINTAINING.
AN OPEN INTERNET EVERYBODY WOULD
WANT THAT IN OUR COUNTRY.
LET FOR THE LAST FIFTEEN YEARS.
.
YOU NOT TO TWO. PRESIDENTS.
REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT WENT
THROUGH PUBLIC PROCESS.
AND CAME UP WITH THE INFORMATION
THAT WENT INTO. THE FCC'S ORDER.
AND.
AS SOON AS.
ONE PERSON GOT ELECTED IN A
MATTER OF DAYS AFTER ASSUMING
OFFICE FIRST THING HE DOES UNDO
THAT ORDER THAT TOOK.
YEARS TO CREATE WHAT THE PURPOSE.
I'VE CREATED AN OPEN INTERNET.
AND THAT OF COURSE HAS RAISED
CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND.
WE PARTICULARLY I'M CONCERNED
ABOUT THAT PROCESS THAT WAS
FOLLOWED.
TO COMPLETELY NEGATE.
THE PUBLIC'S PARTICIPATION OF
PROCESS THAT.
AFFECTS EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY.
SO.
THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO HANDLE
THIS MATTERS IS DEFINITELY IN
THE FCC BUT.
THERE SHOULD BE A PATHWAY FOR
THE LIST THE STATE'S.
TO ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE OF
THEIR STATE.
IT'S HARD TO DO THAT WHEN WE'VE
NEVER HAD TO DO IT.
WE RELY ON THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S DO THEIR JOB IN
THESE AREAS.
AND YOU CREATE A PROCESS PEOPLE
FALL AWAY AND THEN FOR NO
APPARENT EXPLANATION OR REASON.
OR WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYBODY.
ONE PERSON COULDN'T CAN THROW IT
OUT I THINK I THINK IN THIS CASE
IN PARTICULAR THE.
THE PRESIDENT OVERSTEPPED HIS
BOUNDS AND AND I UNDERSTAND THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER.
AND I AND AND THE COMMISSION
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
PRESIDENT.
MAKING EXECUTIVE ORDER AND I AND
A COMMISSION JUST.
HIM AS STEPPING IN IT IN IN THE
FACE OF THE COMMISSION'S ACTION
AND TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO
THIS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT FLIES
AGAINST THE THE INTEGRITY OF THE
PROCESS.
AND HAS CREATED THESE KIND OF
PROBLEMS WERE NOW IN OUR STATE
WERE LOOKING TO.
ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR
STATE OF IMPORTANT.
UP RIGHT THAT PEOPLE HAVE IT'S
IT'S BECOME A NECESSITY.
I MEAN WHO.
TO TO WORK THROUGH THE INTERNET
TO GET INFORMATION.
WORK.
TO TO GET GET INFORMATION AND
NOW.
IT'S IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE
A SYSTEM THAT.
.
COULD DICTATE TO US WHAT OUR
INTERESTS ARE INSTEAD OF US
DECIDING NOT FOR OURSELVES IN
THAT.
IS OF CONCERN SO. BURST OF AYE
ONE APPLAUD YOU FOR TAKING ON
THIS ISSUE.
ALSO ONE APPLAUDED.
SENATOR KEVIN DE LEóN FOR HIS
BILL OF WORKING ON THIS ISSUE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT.
YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THIS BILL.
WITH A LITTLE MORE CREATIVITY IN
TERMS OF HOW SPENT TO EXPAND.
THE STATE'S INVOLVEMENT ON THAT
ON THIS ISSUE.
AND AND THERE'S AND WE SHOULD
CONSIDER THAT AND.
ANY OTHER EFFORTS TO TO
ACCOMPLISH THIS BECAUSE IT IS
REALLY THAT IMPORTANT.
THE AND I THINK.
YOU KNOW I HAVE I HAVE RECEIVED
JUST SO MANY CALLS FROM MY
DISTRICT THAT FOR PEOPLE THAT
ARE CONCERNED THIS ISSUE.
AND THOSE THOSE CALLS ARE ARE
ONGOING AND HAVEN'T STE CEASED.
AND AND I AGREE THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT I AGREE WITH THEM.
THAT STATE OF NEVER DONE THIS
AND WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY.
A DEPARTMENT OR.
FOR ANYONE IN PARTICULAR THAT.
HAS THE EXPERTISE TO DEAL WITH
THIS ISSUE AND THAT POSES
PROBLEMS FOR US.
WE CAN BEGIN.
AT IMPLEMENTING THIS
AND AND IN A WAY THAT.
.
WILL WILL WORK TOWARD HA HOW WE
YOU KNOW HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS
HOW DO WE.
ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR
STATE.
IN THE ABSENCE OF.
.
NO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REFUSES TO
TO DO ITS JOB AN AGENCY THAT.
HAS REFUSED TO DO ITS JOB.
IT'S IT'S A REALLY SAD DAY IN
AMERICAN TERMS OF ALL THINGS ARE
HAPPENING BUT.
YOU KNOW WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
THIS AND.
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE
OF OUR STATE OUR ECONOMY.
SO IN PARTICULARLY THAT
PARTICULAR I I'D LIKE TO.
.
COMMENDED FOR THIS WEEK WE HAVE
SOUGHT TO WORK WITH THE AUTHORED
TERMS OF MAKING THIS WORKABLE
PULL SOMETHING THAT WE CAN
IMPLEMENT.
SOMETHING THAT EVENTUALLY COULD
TAKE SHAPE.
AND.
BEGIN TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF
OUR STATE WE'VE WHO WE FEEL WE
HAVE THAT.
AND.
.
IF YOU KNOW YOU'VE YOU HAVE
SUGGESTS AMENDMENTS WE HAVE BEEN
I THINK WE'VE COME TO A POSITION
WHERE THIS BILL.
MAY WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR
STATE WE WANT AND WE WOULD LIKE
TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD.
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS FROM.
FROM MEMBERS WILL BEGIN WITH
HERTZBERG VOTE CANNELLA WE FIRST
YOU KNOW GENERAL CANNELLA NINE
HOURS FOR.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN.
YOU KNOW WAS IT IF YOU WOULD
HAVE TAKEN THE AMENDMENTS AND
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS WHICH
BASICALLY JUST WAS THE FCC ORDER
I WOULD SUPPORT THAT BILL TODAY
BUT I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF
CONCERNS.
ONE IS WITH THE PEERING
AGREEMENTS WHICH.
FCC DID NOT ADDRESS THAT SAID
THEY WOULD DO IT ON A CASE BY
CASE BASIS
WAS MENTIONED BY A MIST MCINTYRE.
BUT MY CONCERN IS IF.
YOU KNOW THESE THESE BUSINESSES
ARE YOU KNOW COMCAST OR EIGHTEEN
TO THE OPENING OF THE VARIOUS
ISPS THERE IT TO MAKE MONEY AS
WELL. IF YOU HAVE A BIG BUSINESS
LIKE NETFLIX THAT COMES IN AND
TAKES.
ALL THE BAND WITH.
AND THEY MAKE A DEAL WITH EACH
OTHER SO LOOK OKAY YOU'RE GONNA
YOU'RE GONNA TAKE OFF HER VEIL
WITH GREATER TO AN AGREEMENT
WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO UPGRADE
OUR SYSTEM. I THINK THAT'S FAIR
IF WE
WE DON'T ALLOW THAT.
THEN ANY UP.
GRACE TO THE SYSTEMS ARE UPDATES
THE SYSTEM WILL BE A.
ASSIGNED TO THE OTHER REPAIR SO
WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN WITH THAT
WITH THE FURY REMIX THIS JUST
SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME SURE
MY PEERING INTO ITS ABOUT THE
INTERCONNECTION. ARE AND SO
FIRST OF ALL THAT ABSOLUTELY WAS
IN THE TWENTY FIFTEEN RDER ODD
BECAUSE IN TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER
THE FCC BECAME THE GLOBAL
UTILITY STYLE REGULATOR. I'VE
BAY WERE ABLE TO SAY THAT IN
CERTAIN FOR CERTAIN ISSUES THEY
WOULD DO IT ON A CASE BY CASE
BASIS UP THIS COMMITTEE BOTH
WITH SENATOR DE LEóN SPELL AND
AND THIS BILL. HAVE MADE VERY
CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT FOR
EXAMPLE THE CPUC TO BECOME
GLOBAL UTILITY STYLE REGULAR WE
COULD MAKE THEM THAT GLOBAL.
UTILITY STYLE REGULATOR AND THEN
DO WHAT THE FCC DID AND SAY YOU
WILL BE DONKEYS BY CASE.
BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT
WOULD ADDRESS THAT I DO A DROP
LIKE A LEAD BALLOON HIGH IN THIS
BUILDING.
AND SO.
AS A RESULT IT WAS IT WAS IN
THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER.
WE ARE INCLUDING A IN THIS BILL.
ALBEIT IN A DIFFERENT WAY
BECAUSE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME
FLEXIBILITY THAT WE SEE IT BUT I
WOULD HAVE SURVIVED IF I MAY
JUST ADD. THAT.
.
I YOU KNOW NETFLIX
I THINK I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT
I HEAR THEY THAT THEY WERE
BASICALLY OVER A BARREL. WE WERE
LOSING CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY
WERE BEING SLOWED DOWN AND SO
THEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HUGE
AMOUNT OF MONEY. CUT THE DEAL
WITH THE ISP'S AUDIBLE WHAT
ABOUT THE SMALLER COMPANIES THAT
DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT.
THAT THEY CAN START SAYING HEY.
YOUR GROWING COMPANY AND AND WE
THANK YOU WE WANT YOU TO QUOTE
UNQUOTE PARTNER WITH US TO BUILD
OUT OUR INTERNET.
AND IF YOU DO IT YOU'RE GONNA
GET GOOD ACCESS AND YOU'LL BE
ABLE TO REACH OUR CUSTOMERS IF
YOU DON'T WHILE WHO KNOWS. THAT
SAID THAT IT IS INCREDIBLY ANTI
COMPETITIVE AND IT'S VERY VERY
PROBLEMATIC WELL I UNDERSTAND
THAT BUT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PAY
TO UPGRADE THE SYSTEM SO.
IT'S NOT LIKE THESE ISPS HAVE
JUST A BUNDLE OF CASH IN THE
BANK SAYS ALTHOUGH WE'RE GONNA
GO AHEAD AND. UPGRADE
ZILLIONAIRE TO DO AS THE REST OF
WELL THEY THAT'S RIGHT CARE
MONEY. THE READ THE RATEPAYERS
WILL COVER SO I AM REALLY
CONCERNED WITH THAT THAT ALSO
JUST SO YOU KNOW IN THE.
IN THE.
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AS TO THE
DEGREE THAT THE AUTHOR COMMITTEE
WHICH TO CONFORM THIS BILL SCOPE
TO THAT OF THE FCC'S TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN OPEN INTERNET
ORDER. THEY MAY WISH TO CONSIDER
REMOVING PRO A PROVISIONS
PROHIBITING ZERO RATING
APPEARING GRIM SO THE COMMITTEE
ANNOUNCES DISAGREES AND SAYS IT
WAS A PARKS THAT'S THE FIRST
THING.
THE SECOND PART IS THE ZERO
RATING WHICH ALLOWS YOU KNOW T.
MOBILE I THINK THEY OFFER
NETFLIX WITHOUT USING THEIR DAD.
PTT
YOU KNOW THERE'S VARIOUS WAS.
I JUST THINK THAT'S A SERVICE
THAT THEY'RE OFFERING THEIR
CLIENTS AND I MEAN.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD BUSINESS
DECISION TO ME AND LOOK IF I
DON'T WANT. NETFLIX I CAN GO TO
A EIGHTEEN TO GET HBO BUT TO
PROHIBIT THAT. I DON'T SEE
BECAUSE AGAIN THAT'S GOING TO
COST PEOPLE MORE MONEY RIGHT IF
IT'S GOING TO GET YOUR DATA.
THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY
MORE MONEY SO.
IT SEEMS LOOK AT THAT THE RESULT
ORDER TOOK A NEVER CAME INTO
AFFECTS I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS BUT.
IF WE JUST USE THAT IN A GOT
WERE THESE OTHER TWO ITEMS I
THINK THAT THE THE BILL WOULD BE
LESS.
WOULD COST CONSUMERS LESS SO.
THOSE TO PROVISIONS CONCERNING A
AND ALTERNATIVE CONSERVANCY THAT
BUT I.
ON ZERO READING IT'S YOU KNOW
TO BE VERY CLEAR WHAT THAT SAYS
IF I'M ARE LET'S SAY NOT TO PICK
ON ANYONE IN PARTICULAR PICK UP
TO GOING MISTER DEVINE IS THERE
A TNT IF I MAY TNC.
AND I SAY I HAVE A SERVICE THAT
I'M PROVIDING.
AND THERE ARE THESE COMPETITORS.
IF YOU USE MY SERVICE YOU DON'T
HAVE TO PAY DATA IF USER SERVICE
YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THAT IS
HIGHLY ANTI COMPETITIVE THAT WAS
INCLUDED IN THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
ORDER ALBEIT CASE BY CASE. BELT
TURNED OVER TO PRESIDENTIAL.
DO SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS
ONE SORT OF MISCONCEPTION ABOUT
THE CURRENT AND MCINTYRE ALSO
REPEATED AND YOU DID THAT TO YOU
AND SAYS A COMMITTEE REPORT
WASN'T FULLY CLEAR ON THAT.
THIS BILL DOES NOT SAY WHETHER
THE CHARGING OF THE POINT OF
INTO CONNECTION IS PROHIBITED ON
NOT.
THIS BILL HOUSE TO PROVISIONS
ONE SAYS SECTION SEVENTEEN
SEVENTY SIX C..
I IS PEACE CANNOT CHARGE AS
PROVIDERS FOR ACCESS TO THE
CUSTOMERS.
AND THIS PROVISION IS LITERALLY
TAKEN FROM THE TWENTY TEN AND
TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER.
VERIZON WENT TO COURT TO SUE THE
FCC AND SAID. THIS ORDER
PROHIBITS US FROM CHARGING
INTENSIVE OUR WEBSITES AND
APPLICATION PROVIDERS FOR ACCESS
TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND WE WANT TO
BE ABLE TO CHARGE EVERY WEBSITE
IN EVERY APPLICATION OF FEED.
JUST TO BE VISIBLE TO OUR
CUSTOMER AND. BLOCK THOSE STOP
PAY. THIS HAS BEEN CLEARLY
PROHIBITED IN THE TEXT OF THE
ORDER SINCE TWENTY TEN THIS IS
NOT A RULE ABOUT INTO CONNECTION.
SO THEN THERE IS A SECOND RULE
THE SECOND RULE TALKS ABOUT INTO
CONNECTION AND THE ONLY THING
VOWED RULES SAYS IS.
I IS PEACE CANNOT USE INTO
CONNECTION PRACTICES TO
CIRCUMVENT THE BILL TENURE
CHALKY PROTECTION.
THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL AND YOU
KNOW WHY WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE IN
TWENTY TEN THE FCC SOUGHT ITS
NET NEUTRALITY RULES DIDN'T NEED
TO APPLY TO THE POINT WHERE DATA
AND TEST THEIR NETWORK.
AND IT TURNED OUT THAT HAT'S
THE POINT WHERE THE ICE P.
STARTED TO APPLY PRESSURE.
THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN
VIOLATING BRIGHT LINE RULES YOU
KNOW VERIZON TAUGHT THE COURT.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO SUE YOU
WE'RE NOT VIOLATING RULES WE ARE
INTERESTING GETTING RID OF.
SO INSTEAD THEY STARTED TO PLAY
GAMES AT THE POINT WHERE DATA
INTO THE NETWORK. DAVE SCHAEFER
EXPLAINED THOSE AND THEY CREATED
A LOT OF PHAM FOR CUSTOMIZED
WITH MILLIONS OF CUSTOMERS
EXPERIENCE DEGRADATION WAY DATA
WAS ENTERING THE NETWORKS AND.
THE ICE PIECE CONGESTED THOSE
CONNECTIONS TO FORCE THOSE.
AHA PROVIDERS TO PAY.
SO IN RESPONSE TO THIS IN TWENTY
FIFTEEN THE FCC SAID TWO THINGS.
ONE CLEARLY YOU CAMP CIRCUMVENT
NET NEUTRALITY RULES AT THE
POINT WHERE INTO A CAN WHERE
DATA AND HAS THE NETWORK WE NEED
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SU
WHAT SHOULD WE DO.
ANOTHER SECTION TWO ONE TWO TWO
WE HAVE BROAD AUTHORITY TO
PROHIBIT ICE PIECE FROM ENGAGING
IN UNJUST AND UNREASONABLE
PRACTICES AND UNJUST AND
UNREASONABLE DISCRIMINATION.
WE WILL USE THAT TO REVIEW THE
INTERCONNECTION PRACTICE.
AND DON'T WORRY THAT GIVES US
THE TOOLS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS
CANNOT CIRCUMVENT OUR RULES AT
THE POINT OF IT TO CONNECTION.
SO WHEN SENATOR WE KNOW IF WAS
DRAFTING THE RULE HE WAS
WONDERING SHOULD WE ADOPT THIS
BROAD OVERSIGHT OVER INTO
CONNECTION AND SAY. YOU KNOW
THEY P. YOU SEE ARE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL MAKE SURE THAT. I IS
PEACE DO NOT ENGAGE AN UNJUST
AND UNREASONABLE PRACTICES AT
THE POINT OF INTO CONNECTION AND
THAT FELT REALLY BROUGHT AND
MAYBE NOT APPROPRIATE AT THE
STATE LEVEL.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU NEED TO
PREVENT THIS A CONVENTION
THROUGH THE ONLY THING THIS BILL
SAYS IS. LIKE THE FCC ORDER YOU
CANNOT CIRCUMVENT THE RULES AT
THE POINT OF INTO CONNECTION AND
THAT MEANS LIKE IN TWENTY
FIFTEEN. IF SOMEONE THINKS THERE
ISN'T SO CONVENTION THEY NEED TO
COMPLAIN. THE AG WILL LOOK AT IT
AND WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE CASE
BY CASE.
WHETHER THIS SPECIFIC PRACTICE
IS A CIRCUMVENTION OF THE RULES.
AND SOME OF THOSE
INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENTS THAT
YOU DESCRIBED. THEY MIGHT BE
EQUIPPED CIRCUMVENTION AND SOME
MAY NOT BUT THERE IS NO BRIGHT
LINE BAN ON CHARGING FOR INTO
CONNECTION THERE IS A BRIGHT
LINE BAN ON CIRCUMVENTING THE
RULES AND I THINK THAT'S
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU
DON'T WANT TO CREATE A GIANT
PURPLE.
OKAY SO WOULD YOU AGREE THEN. IF
GET RID OF THE IF THE PYRAMIDS
ARE ALL FOUND TO BE NON
COMPLIANCE WITH WITH THIS THIS
BILL.
WHO WILL PAID UPGRADES?
I MEAN SENATE SO FIRST IT'S A
SIMPLE QUESTION RIGHT YEAH WHO
WILL PAID UPGRADE JUST WANNA SAY
WE ARE NOT JUST CHANGING THE
SETS WERE QUESTION WHO WILL
UPGRADES. LOUDER ON HIS THROAT
SO LET ME SURFACED WE ARE NOT
CHANGING THE MODEL SO IN THE
SAME WAY THAT NETWORK UPGRADES
OF FUNDED TODAY THEY ARE GOING
TO BE FUNDED IN THE FUTURE. AND
YET WE ARE PAYING OUR INTERNET
SERVICE PROVIDER FOR THE RIGHT
TO TRANSPORT OUR DATA TO AND
FROM THE INTERNET AND DIS FEES
ARE USED TO INVEST IN NETWORKS.
AND YOU'D BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT
THE COSTS OF INVESTING DEPLOYING
NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE. HAVE
DROPPED CONSIDERABLY IN THE PAST
FEW YEARS THROUGH THAT THE EYES
PIECE HAVE BEEN SAYING. YOU KNOW
WE WILL NOW BE ADDING TWO POINT
FIVE TIMES MORE CAPACITY AT
SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE
CAPITAL COST COMPARED TO JUST A
FEW YEARS AGO SAYS EIGHTEEN TO.
INDUSTRY ANALYSTS SAY I ISSUES
HAVE CONSISTENTLY MEET ABLE TO
PROVIDE HIGHER DATA SPEEDS AND
CAPACITY AS CUSTOMER DEMAND HAS
CONTINUED TO INCREASE AT FORTY
TO FIFTY PERCENT PER YEAR. EVEN
WHY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES
REMAINED RELATIVELY STABLE.
THERE IS NO PROBLEM UNDER THE
CURRENT RULES AND THE NEW RULES
WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
AND SO THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO DESCRIBE DOESN'T EXITS.
AND THEN FINALLY I WANTED TO SAY
IT YOU KNOW WITH THIS QUESTION
OF WHO HAS MONEY.
COM BECAUSE SAYS BOUGHT BACK
SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLARS OF ITS
OWN STOCK IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.
IF THEY TOOK THIS MONEY THEY
COULD DEPLOY FIBER NETWORKS
TO EIGHTY TO A HUNDRED AND SIXTY
MILLION PEOPLE IN THE UNITED
STATES.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT OUR
REYES PEACE DO NOT HAVE MONEY TO
PLAY BROADBAND NETWORK
INFRASTRUCTURE. PROBLEM IS THAT
WE DON'T HAVE COMPETITION
FIFTY PERCENT OF AMERICAN
CUSTOMERS HAVE ONE ISP TO CHOOSE
FROM.
I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF SILICON
VALLEY. AND I HAVE ONE ICED TEA
THOUGHTS COMCAST.
AND WE HAVE SEEN WHENEVER A NEW
I SP AND US THE MARKET GOOGLE
FIVE OR MUNICIPAL NETWORKS
THAT'S WHEN PRICES DROPS THAT'S
WHEN CAPACITY GETS DEPLOYED.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE NEED TO
FIX
BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT WE
NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM
MORE MONEY. THAT THEY DON'T
ALREADY HAVE THIS ONLY
HERTZBERG.
SENATOR WIENER YOU THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN SENATOR WINNER
YOU'LL PUT ME TO WORK.
ON IN THIS TO IN THIS ENDEAVOR
AND I. AS START WILL SHARE YOUR
A MOTION THAT YOU EXPRESS THAT.
B. INCEPTION IN YOUR COMMENTS
ABOUT THE OUTRAGEOUS BEHAVIOR IN
THE SHIFT BETWEEN THE FEDERAL
ADMINISTRATION.
AND I JUST WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY
SHARE WITH YOU THAT IN DOING
THAT HOMEWORK I HAVE.
IN PREPARING FOR TODAY I'VE
WRITTEN WENT BACK AND READ THE
ON THE DAILY OWN MEASURE THE
TWENTY TWO PAGE ANALYSIS.
A OF THE COMMITTEE A IN HIS BILL
FOR SIXTY.
I AGREE READ THE RELEVANT
PROVISIONS OF THE THIRTY FOUR
ACT THAT CABLE ACTIVITY FOR THE
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT OF NINETY
SIX.
DOZENS OF FEDERAL AND THE UNITED
STATES SUPREME COURT CASES THAT
EXAMINE THE POT IMPOSSIBILITY
EXCEPTION IN LOUISIANA CASE.
WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR
WITH THE DOCTOR A PRESUMPTION
AGAINST PREEMPTION. IN RIVER
VERSUS SANTA FE ELEVATOR
CORPORATION CASE I'VE LOOKED AT
THE MONTANA EXECUTIVE ORDER NEW
JERSEY EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER
DYING.
THE TWO THOUSAND TEN INTERNET
PRINCIPLES THE TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN OPEN INTERNET ORDER BY
OBAMA.
AND THE RIFF CHO DECEMBER
FOURTEENTH TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN.
I'VE EXAMINED UP BNP CODE
SECTION SEVENTEEN HUNDRED. I'VE
EXAMINED THE WHOLE HOST OF OTHER
FOR CAVE OTHER LAWS AS IT
RELATES TO LOCAL.
AND WHAT I SEE IN THIS MATTER.
IS NOT THE QUESTION OF WHAT THE
STATE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO
WITH RESPECT TO THE BEHAVIOR IN
ITS HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND
SQUARE MILES. OF WHAT
CONSTITUTES CALIFORNIA BUT THE
QUESTION HERE IN HONEST OPEN
DISCUSSION.
IS NOT TO JUST SIMPLY SAY THAT
WE DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID.
THE QUESTION TO ME AS I'VE
EXPRESSED YOU SENATOR WIENER IS
WHAT CAN WE DO.
WE ALL THE TIME IN THIS BODY AND
SPECIFICALLY THE LAST THREE
YEARS HAVE BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED
IN DISCUSSIONS AS TO STATE AND
FEDERAL RIGHTS.
WE JUST THE OTHER DAY YESTERDAY
AND MY COMMITTEE DEALT WITH THE
ISSUE OF OFFSHORE DRILLING
CLEARLY CONSTITUTION WITH OUR
RIGHTS. SENATOR ALLEN HAD A
MEASURE DEALING WITH THE ISSUE
OF WHETHER OR NOT WITH THE
STATE'S RULES WITH RESPECT TO
SELL SAILOR FEDERAL PARK PLAN
CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL PURVIEW.
WE WE WE DID WE HAVE A VERY
DELICATE BALANCE IN THAT WHAT
WHAT I'VE LEARNED IN LOOKING AT
ALL THESE VARIOUS CASES IN
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. THIS
BALANCE OF FEDERAL PREEMPTION.
IS IS THERE A PLACE BEYOND JUST
THE RHETORIC OF SAYING WELL
WE'RE GOING TO PASS THIS STUFF
CAN WE REALLY DO SOMETHING
THAT'S ENFORCEABLE. CAN WE WIN.
I'M CONVINCED IT'S BEEN AROUND
COULD WIN AND CONVINCES CENTER
JACKSON CAN WIN. I'M CONVINCED
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT YOU CAN
WIN.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
LOOK BUT I THINK THERE'S A
PATHWAY.
I THINK AS A PATHWAY ARM IN A
AND I LOOK AT THIS IN TERMS OF
WHERE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME
COURT CASES BACK TO NINETEEN
FORTY EIGHT LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF
PREEMPTION. AND WHAT THE ROLE OF
STATES ARE THE SHOULDN'T BE.
THE DEFINITION OF
TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFORMATION
SERVICES AND WHERE THE
OPPORTUNITY IS. WHAT CONCERNS ME
ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE HAVE THIS
EXTRAORDINARY AND APPROPRIATE
PUBLIC SENTIMENT? THAT THERE
SHOULD BE A FULL AND FAIR NON
DISCRIMINATORY INTERNET WE COULD
SIMPLY SU THESE COMPANIES FOR
ENGAGE IN UNFAIR BEHAVIOR UNFAIR
PRICING TO SEVENTY TWO HUNDRED.
WE'VE ALL SORTS OF PROVISIONS
ALREADY EXIST AND PUBLIC
CONTRACTING COLD IN ALL SORTS OF
LAWS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN
CALIFORNIA THAT INFORM THE
SECRETARY THE THE IN THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL. AND DEAL WITH
THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.
THE QUESTION OF WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO DO WHEN YOU PUT ALL
THESE LABELS AND CALL ALL THIS
STUFF THESE VARIOUS THINGS. IS
TRYING TO GIVE THE PUBLIC
CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE EXPANDING
THAT.
WHAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU IN WHAT
I'M INTERESTED IN IS YOUR
ANALYSIS ON THIS OF PREEMPTION
ISSUE? AND WHETHER IT'S
DEFENSIBLE YOU YOUR WE USE THE
WORD THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT THE
ISSUE OF PRODUCTION WAS
DEFENSIBLE.
WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF
YOU'RE THINKING IN THAT REGARD
BECAUSE I'M NOT SO SURE IT'S
PREVENTS THAT'S A DEFENSIBLE AND
WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT
IS WE AS A LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT?
WHETHER IT WHAT HAPPENS THIS WHO
KNOWS WE NEED TO. ARE ALL RIGHT
THE LAW IN THE WAY THAT WE HAVE
THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.
SOMETIMES YOU LOSE FIGURE SHOT.
BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS WRONG
OVER THE PLACE.
THERE'S ISSUES OF DEFINING
REGULATORY POWER PURCHASING
POWER THAT CLEARLY COULD BE
DEFINED BASED UPON CASE
AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE.
AND I'M SURE THAT I'M CONCERNED
THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE
PLAYING TO THE CROWD SO TO SPEAK
WHICH WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT.
AND NOT DRILLING IN IN TERMS OF
THAT SO YOU'RE YOU'RE PRETTY
BRILLIANT LAWYER AND I MENTION
THIS TO YOU AND I LOVE TO TALK
YOUR STANFORD PROFESSOR ON THIS.
AND SEE WHAT YOUR THINKING IS IN
THAT REGARD BECAUSE I'M REALLY
CONCERNED YOU KNOW SO I CENTER
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
OUR QUESTION THANK YOU FOR
TAKING THE TIME SO THEY CAN THE
THINGS AND YOU AND I HAD A GOOD
CONVERSATION A FEW. DAYS AGO AND
AS I SAID THEN AND IT'S AN OPEN
INVITATION OF ANY SPECIFIC IDEAS
YOU HAVE.
ABOUT THE BILL IN A BALLOT
MAKING SURE MAKING AS LEGALLY
DEFENSIBLE POSSIBLE I WELCOME
THAT GOING FORWARD AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO RECEIVING THAT INPUT.
I THINK ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS MY
WORK.
KNOWS THAT I I AM.
I AM I DO I AM NOT SOMEONE WHO
JUST PLACE THE CROWD I HAVE A
BILL IN THE TRANSPORTATION
HOUSING COMMITTEE. LATER OF THIS
WEEK WHICH I KNOW YOU SENATOR
HERTZBERG AND OTHERS HAVE HEARD
QUITE A BIT ABOUT ABOUT HOUSING
AND. THAT HOUSING MELTDOWN WE'RE
HAVING CALIFORNIA AND ARE
PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT
VERY POPULAR IN ALL QUARTERS SO
I DON'T HAVE PLAYED A CROWD. ON
I TRY TO SOLVE REAL PROBLEMS
THAT WE'RE FACING.
AND WE DO HAVE A REAL PROBLEM
HERE WHERE WE HAVE.
ANTICOMPETITIVE AND
MONOPOLISTIC AYE BEHAVIOUR AYE I
DON'TI'M WITH ALL RESPECT TO
THE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN
THE THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE I WORK
WITH I TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR
THEM.
WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT HERE
THERE ARE PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF
THIS KIND OF ANTI COMPETITIVE
BLOCKING OF FAST LANE SLOWING
BEHAVIOR BY ISPS OVERTIME AND
WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION IS A REAL PROBLEM.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE DEFENSE GOOD
BE ABILITY TO DEFEND. THIS LAW
ON OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING NO
MATTER WHAT WE PASS WE COULD
PASS THE MOST NARROW FORM OR THE
BROADEST FORM.
THEY WILL SUE AND THEY HAVE
EVERY RIGHT TO SUE.
AND I AM I ABLE TO PREDICT AYE
I'VE LEARNED AS A LAWYER FOR
MANY YEARS NEVER TO PREDICT WHAT
THE COURT'S GOING TO DO.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO ISCRAFT THE
LOG THAT IS IS DEFENSIBLE AS
POSSIBLE WE THINK WE'VE DONE
THAT AND WE WELCOME FURTHER
FEEDBACK. BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE
THE FCC HAS THE POWER.
THROUGH ITS ADMINISTRATIVE
ORDER TO PREEMPTIVELY STATES
FROM ACTING AND THE FCC HAS LOST
THAT ARGUMENT BEFORE AGAIN I'M
NOT GUARANTEEING.
A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT OF
COURSE WERE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO
WIN BUT WE HAVE A STRONG LEGAL
ARGUMENT THERE. CONGRESS HAS NOT
OF PREEMPTED US FROM ACTING OF
CONGRESS WERE TO PASS A
PREEMPTION WE WOULD HAVE A
BIGGER PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH THEY
HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S THE INTERSTATE
COMMERCE ISSUE WE PICK WE
CRAFTED THE BILL IN A WAY.
THAT WE ARE EXERCISING OUR
POLICE POWERS FOR EXAMPLE TO
PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S TO
CONSUMERS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY I AM WE ARE FOCUSING
THE BILL ON. CALIFORNIA INTERNET
CUSTOMERS.
AND SO AGAIN WE WE WE THINK IT
IS DEFENSIBLE BUT WE WELCOME
YOUR CONTINUING.
SPAIN XIN.
YET MAYBE LET ME AT THE KEY
ARGUMENTS HERE SO I THINK THAT I.
LIKE YOU I SPEND A LOT OF TIME
STUDYING THE ROLAND PRECEDENCE
AND FOUGHT FREELY DEEPLY ABOUT
SO THE SCOPE OF PREEMPTION AND
CAN.
IT WAS A LOT OF OTHER EXPERTS TO
ALSO.
I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL
IS ON FIRM LEGAL GROUND AND
HERE'S WHY.
SO IF WHILE THE FCC'S ORDER
EXPLICITLY BANS THE STATES FROM
ADOPTING THEIR OWN MENUS HOW HE
LOST THAT PREEMPTION IS AND
BALLOT. AND THE KEY IDEA HERE IS
SAAD ACCORDING TO THE KEY SLOT.
AN AGENCY THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE
POWER TO REGULATE DOESN'T HAVE
THE POWER TO HIM PREEMPT.
THAT MEANS THE FCC CAN ONLY
PREVENT THE STATES FROM ADOPTING
NET NEUTRALITY PROTECTIONS.
IF THE FCC HAAS THE AUTHORITY TO
DOT NET NEUTRALITY PROTECTIONS
ITSELF.
AND SO NOW IN ITS TWENTY
SEVENTEEN ORDER THE FCC
BASICALLY STRIPPED AWAY ITS OWN
AUTHORITY OVER BROADBAND.
THEY RECLASSIFIED BROADBAND AS A
TITLE ONE SERVICE AND THEN THE
SENATE SECTION SEVEN NO SIX ON
WHICH THE TWENTY TEN RULES WERE
BASED IT'S JUST A MISSION
STATEMENT THAT DOESN'T GIVE US
ANY AUTHORITY.
AND THEN THE CONCLUDED WE DON'T
JUST THINK NET NEUTRALITY IS A
BAD IDEA FROM A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE. WE ALSO THINK WE
UNFORTUNATELY NOW HAVE NO
AUTHORITY TO DO TO DOT NET
NEUTRALITY ROOTS EVEN IF WE
WANTED TO.
SO THE FCC NOW HAS NO AUTHORITY
TO OF DOT NET NEUTRALITY RULES
AND SO IT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO
PREEMPT THE STATES EITHER.
AND THAT'S THE KEY DIFFERENCE
YOU SAW THE OPPOSING WITNESSES
QUOTING TO ALL THAT LANGUAGE IN
THE TWENTY FIFTEEN ORDER AND THE
TWENTY TEN WHAT ABOUT PREEMPTION.
THAT WAS THE KEY DIFFERENCE IN
TWENTY TEN AND TWENTY FIFTEEN
THE FCC HOT AUTHORITY DOT NET
NEUTRALITY RULES. AND THEREFORE
IT HOW DID FLORA TO TO PREEMPT
NOW THAT THAT AUTHORITIES GONE
SURFING SAFARI.
THE IMPOSSIBILITY EXCEPTION IS
NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT TO
REQUIRES THE STATES AT THE FCC
TO HAVE AUTHORITY TO. REGULATE
IN THE FIRST PLACE TO IT FAILS
FOR THE SAME REASONS WAY IF
IT ALL IT IMPOSES SIDE AND ON
THE IN STATE PROVIDE US. BUT
THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOOT ON THE
CALMEST.
THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR THE
DOMAIN COMMENTS THORSTEN SO THE
BILL HAS BEEN CAREFULLY DROPPED
IT. TO TO CONSIDER THOSE
LIMITATIONS.
AND THEN MAYBE SERVE.
THANK YOU SECURE AND I WILL BE
BRIEF BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING THAT
THE TIME CONSTRAINTS OF TODAY
AND IN THE TO THE LOT OF IT HAS
BEEN SAID BEFORE.
YOU I WAS HOPING THAT AT THE
END OF THE DAY WE WILL HAVE ONE
BUILT IT OUT OF THIS THIS HOUSE
AND AND MOVE FORWARD ON NET
NEUTRALITY I SUPPORTED VOTE. A
SENATOR DALY OWNS BILL I WILL
SUPPORT THIS BILL TODAY BECAUSE
IT.
THANK YOU FOR THE P. UC ISSUES
AND ND REMOVING THAT FROM A
FROM CONSIDERATION THERE'S ONE
ISSUE THAT. AND US SENATOR
CANNELLA REYES HAD OVER THE ZERO
RATING AND AND I. YOU KNOW THE.
THE FCC DID YOU KNOW TALK ABOUT
THAT IN THE SENSE THAT.
THEY WANTED IT TO LOOK AT IT ON
A CASE BY CASE BASIS BECAUSE
THEY YOU KNOW THEY COULD IMAGINE
POSSIBILITIES WERE COULD BENEFIT.
THE.
A CONSUMERS AT SOME POINT IN
TIME SO I WOULD LIKE YOU SOME
CONVERSATION TO SEE HOW THAT.
WHERE IT BENEFITS CONSUMERS HOW
IT BENEFITS CONSUMERS IF IT DOES
IT SENATOR CANNELLA WITH RAISING
THAT ISSUE? AND THEN YOU DON'T
SEE HOW IT COULD CAN DO WE CAN
WORK THROUGH AS THIS BILL MOVES
FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO.
TO TWO OF TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION AND SEEIF WE CAN
MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THAT SO I
APPRECIATED SENATOR WINNER.
I APPRECIATE THANK YOU THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR.
THEY MISSED CHAIR.
THANKS CENTER WINNER FOR.
DIGGING IN SO DEEP HERE AND FILL
IN THE GAP WE NONE OF US
ACTUALLY WANT TO BE HERE IN THIS
HEARING PUSHING THIS BILL WE
WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO
DO THEIR JOB. BUT.
AS.
YOUR PROFESSOR AND OTHERS AVE
NOTED. WE THE GAP.
HAS TO BE FILLED SOME WAY.
.
I WANNA DO IT WHILE WE HAD THE
LUXURY OF HAVING THE C. E. O. OF
COGENT HERE MISTER SCHAEFFER I
WANTED TO JUST. USE YOUR KNOW
HOW IN THE MARKETPLACE IS TO
DRILL DOWN ON ONE OTHER ISSUE
NOT THE ZERO RATING QUESTION BUT.
HOW THE MARKETPLACE IS LOOKING
RIGHT NOW IT IN YOUR ON THE
GROUND EXPERIENCE RUNNING A VERY
LARGE COMPANY HERE SO?
THERE SEEMS TO BE A DEBATE OF
WHETHER THIS IS A COMPETITIVE
MARKET PORTS NOT A COMPETITIVE
MARK WE HEARD FROM THE PROFESSOR.
THERE'S THEIR STIFLING OF
COMPETITION GOING ON THERE ALL
THESE EXAMPLES BUT ON THE OTHER
HAND WE'RE HEARING THAT. THE THE
INTERNET SOME MORE ROBUST THAN
EVER I CAN WATCH ANY MOVIE ANY
CAT VIDEO ON MY PHONE ANYTIME I
WANT FASTER THAN I'VE EVER BEEN
ABLE TO. AS AN EIGHTH GRADER
TRYING TO YOU KNOW GO ON AMERICA
ONLINE AND WAIT.
FORTY FIVE MINUTES TO LIKE
DOWNLOAD ONE GIFT OF KOBE BRYANT
IT LIKE YOU KNOW WHO IS.
SO WHERE DID WERE A WHOLE NEW
WORLD AND THINGS OF ALL SINCE
NINETEEN NINETY SIX IN THE
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT EYES
WONDER.
FOR FOR YOUR INTERCONNECTION
AGREEMENTS
I MEAN ARE YOU.
ARE YOU ARE YOU ARE YOU BEING
COMPENSATED THE SAME WAY SAY OF
A COMCAST IS AT THIS POINT IN
THE MARKETPLACE FOR CERTAIN
KINDS OF ARRANGEMENTS WITH STATE
LARGER. DATA DELIVERY FOLKS LIKE
A NETFLIX MAYBE NOT NETFLIX
SPECIFICALLY BUT TRY.
AND SO.
IN THOSE AGREEMENTS I MEAN DO
YOU DO YOU SEE THIS MARKETPLACE
AS COMPETITIVE IT IF.
IF A NETFLIX OR A.
NAY YOU CAN NAME ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF A CUSTOMER YOURS BUT IF THEY
DIDN'T LIKE THE DEAL. THAT YOU
ARE OFFERING THEM.
DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE THE
LEVERAGE RIGHT NOW IN THIS
MARKETPLACE OR IS THERE A FAIR
AMOUNT OF SHOPPING THAT GOES ON
FROM.
FROM THE EDGE PROVIDERS THE
OTHER SORTED.
DATA DELIVERS AND I THINK THAT'S
THE KEY POINT ON AND OUR
CONNECTION ALL. NO ONE IS
OFFERING NETFLIX OR ANY OTHER
PROVIDER A FREE RIDE ON THE
INTERNET.
IN TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN
NETFLIX ACTUALLY CHOSE COCHIN IN
A COMPETITIVE PROCESS IS ITS
PRIMARY INTERNET SERVICE
PROVIDER.
THEY WERE PAYING COSTS
COMCAST A TANTRUM VERIZON ALL
COMPUTER FOR THAT BUSINESS AND
LOST.
WHAT THEN HAPPENED WAS? A GROUP
OF ISPS ENDEARED ASS'N BEGAN. TO
LIMIT THEIR CONNECTION TO THE
INTERNET SO THE INTERNET IS NOT
A SINGLE THING IT'S AN
AMALGAMATION OF ABOUT FIFTY FIVE
THOUSAND NETWORKS.
WE OPERATE THE MOST
INTERCONNECTED NETWORK IN THE
WORLD WE HAVE ABOUT SIXTY THREE
HUNDRED OF THOSE FIFTY FIVE
THOUSAND DIRECTLY CONNECTED
THOMAS.
AND VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEM ALL
BUT THIRTY OF THEM ACTUALLY
PAYOFFS FOR SURPLUS AND WE WIN
THAT BUSINESS IN A COMPETITIVE
ENVIRONMENT. SHOW.
BALK OF CONTENT ENTERS THE
INTERNET THROUGH DATA CENTERS
AROUND THE WORLD THE SECOND
LARGEST AGGREGATION OF DATA
CENTERS. IS AND SANTA CLARA THAT
SOUTH BAY AREA. AND WE HAVE HUGE
CUSTOMERS AND THOSE MARKETS WE
WIN AND WE DON'T WIN EVERY
CUSTOMER BUT IT BECOMES TO OUR
OBLIGATION. TO THEN INTERCONNECT
THAT TRAFFIC TO THE REST OF THE
WORLD TO GET THAT TRAFFIC
EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. THE END
USER CONSUMER DOES NOT HAVE THAT
SAME LEVEL OF DISCRETION OR
CHOICE.
PICKING THEIR SERVICE PROVIDER
BECAUSE OFTENTIMES FROM HIGH
SPEEDS THEY HAVE ONE OR MAYBE
TWO POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS IN
THEIR MARKET.
THOSE LAST MILE I S. P..
AND UP USING THEIR CUSTOMERS
AS ARMAMENTS AGAINST PROVIDERS
LIKE COSTS TRYING TO CHARGE A
TOLL.
WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS AND TO
SELL INTERNET CONNECTIVITY WE
DON'T SELL. VIDEO CONTENT WE
DON'T SELL APPLICATIONS WE DON'T
SELL TELEPHONE SERVICE
WE ALSO DON'T GIVE OUR SERVICE
AWAY.
WE'VE BUILT A GLOBAL NETWORK
THAT SPANS FORTY THREE COUNTRIES
CIRCUMNAVIGATES THE WORLD AND
CARRIES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
TRAFFIC SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR
OUR CUSTOMERS TO PAY FOR THOSE
SERVICES. BUT WE WIN THOSE
CUSTOMERS AND A COMPETITIVE
DYNAMIC.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU WAS THAT AS
SOON AS THE FCC ASSERTED COURIER
JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY BY
CLEARLY CLASSIFYING THE INTERNET
AS A TITLE TO SERVICE?
MIRACULOUSLY THE EIGHT HIGHER
SPREES GLOBALLY THAT WERE
RESTRICTING THEIR CUSTOMERS
ACCESS TO THE INTERNET. ALL
SIGNED INTERCONNECTION
AGREEMENTS WITH COACH AT.
AND ALLOW TRAFFIC TO FLOW FREELY
WHAT I CAN ALSO CATEGORICALLY
SAY.
A TEAR T. STIRRED UP HERE AND
SAID THEY NEVER BLOCK TRAFFIC
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE.
THEY HAVE AN INTERCONNECTION
AGREEMENT WITH COACH AND THEY
VIOLATED THAT AGREEMENT WHEN
THEY FELT THEY COULD.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SINCE THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS
ABDICATED ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO
OVERSEE THE INTERNET? AND NET
NEUTRALITY THEY DID NOT MERCED
THE PRINCIPLES OF NET NEUTRALITY
THEY RESCINDED THEIR AUTHORITY
TO OVERSEE THOSE PRINCIPLES.
AND WE.
WELCOME CALIFORNIA AND OTHER
STATES AND STEPPING FORWARD INTO
THAT BREACH.
TO IN FACT AND FORCED THE
PRINCIPLES OF NET NEUTRALITY
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN A LARGE
PROVIDER IN THE STATE COMCAST.
HAS ALREADY.
ABDICATED ITS CONTRACTUAL
OBLIGATIONS FOR COACH AND SO WE
HAVE A INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT
WITH COMCAST THERE IN THE
ROUNDING USE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
THEY'RE SAYING WE AYE IS PEAS
ARE AND THE ROUNDING YOU'RE
GOING STRAIGHT TO THE CUSTOMERS
TO THEIR OWN DELIVERY MECHANISM
THAT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.
IS BLOCK THEIR CUSTOMERS ACCESS
TO THE FULL INTERNET BEATING AND
THEY ARE FORCING LARGE CONTENT
PROVIDERS.
SUCH AS NETFLIX GOOGLE APPLE TO
AND CURRENT TERM DIRECT
CONNECTION AGREEMENTS THAT ARE
AT HIGHER PRICES THAN THE
COMPETITIVE MARKET ALLOWS AND
THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE OF
THEIR MONOPOLY RELATIONSHIP WITH
THEIR ACOSTA.
GOOD THEY CAN THEY CAN DEFEND
THEMSELVES. BUT BUT MY QUESTION
TO YOU IS JUST SO WE KNOW WE'RE
VOTING ON HERE TODAY WOULD THIS
BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS
GOING TO BE PASSED BY THIS
COMMITTEE WOULD BAR YOU FROM
BEING ABLE TO GET TO NEGOTIATE.
INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENTS FOR
COMPENSATION SO THAT I JUST I
READ.
YOU KNOW. YOU CAN'T BE SEE TAKE
CONSIDERATION
FOR ACCESS IN OTHER WORDS UNDER
THE TERMS OF THIS BILL SO.
MAYBE OR MAYBE IT'S MORE OF THE
PROFESSOR BUT I DIDN'T TAKE
OFFENSE THAT'S IMPORTANT JUST
UNDERSTAND FIRST OF ALL I WANT
TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
THAT YOU ASKED TO BEGINNING
WHICH IS.
THE STATE OF THE INTERNET
IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY WITH THE
OPEN INTERNET. OF THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION CHAIRMAN WHEELER
THE STATE OF THE INTERNET IS
BEGINNING TO DETERIORATE. WITH
THE FCC'S APPLICATION OF
OVERSIGHT ON THE INTERNET.
WE FEEL THIS CURRENT BILL WALL
US TO CHARGE OUR CUSTOMERS AND
WHEN CUSTOMERS IN A COMPETITIVE
SITUATION. BUT ALSO SUFFER THE
LOSSES IF WE ARE UNABLE TO
PROVIDE THOSE CUSTOMERS THE BEST
VALUE IN DELIVERING THEIR
APPLICATION OR CONTENT ON THE
INTERNET.
WE DO NOT SEE THIS BILL AND
ANYWAY PROHIBITING OUR ABILITY
TO CONDUCT OUR BEST.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY TWO
THINGS VERY QUICKLY IN RESPONSE
TO YOUR QUESTION.
AND THREE WERE INNOCENT
RELATIVE WHERE YOU WERE YOU
DON'T YEAH IF SHE COULD USE IT
SHE CLARIFY AND I THERE WAS THIS
ALLEGATION OF FALSE CLAIM BY
EIGHTEEN T. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ARE NOT
MISTER CHAIRMAN IF YOU'RE IF
YOU'RE HEARING SO. LOTS OF TV.
AGAIN IT'S YOU HAD THE MIKE
OTHER. LOW CLARIFICATION WHETHER
THIS BARS IT SAYS IT SAYS.
UNLAWFUL TO REQUIRE
CONSIDERATION FROM EDGE OF
RIDERS MONETARY OTHERWISE IN
EXCHANGE FOR ACCESS TO THE
INTERNET FOR END USERS. THAT IT
OUT SEVENTEEN SEVENTY SIX I'M
JUST WONDERING HOW THAT AFFECTS.
THE BILL MR SHAFER'S MODEL AND
WHETHER HE CAN KEEP GOING AND
MAINTAIN A COMPETITIVE
MARKETPLACE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT
I'M. SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT MR
CHAFE AT ALL BECAUSE HE'S NOT A
LAST MILE INTERNET SERVICE
PROVIDER.
YOU KNOW THE DODD PROVISION ONLY
APPLIES TO PROVIDE US OF LAST
NIGHT INTERNET ACCESS TO THE TO
TO CONNECT US THE END USERS TO
THE INTERNET.
AND THEY CANNOT GO AND TOUCH THE
APPLICATIONS CONTENT AND
WEBSITES THAT.
WE ACCESS FOR ACCESS TO A
CUSTOMS THAT'S WHAT BILL SAYS
THE BILL SAYS NOTHING.
ABOUT INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENTS
DIRECTED THE QUESTION IS WHETHER
THE CIRCUMVENTION RULES.
MIGHT.
AT SOME POINT AND WHETHER
SOMEONE CAN SAY WELL YOU
CAMANCHE CHARGE THEM FOR ACCESS
TO THE END USERS AND THEREFORE
YOU CANNOT CHARGE OF THE POINT
OF INTO CONNECTION.
AND LOTS.
GOING TO BE A FACT SPECIFIC
QUESTION IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BILL
THAT PROHIBITS.
.
CO GEN FROM CHARGING ANYBODY SO
IF THE LAST MILE AYE OF COACHING
WHEN THE BARD BUT EIGHTEEN
TEEING COMCAST WOULD BUT WE DO
NOT KNOW. WE CANNOT SAY THAT
BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE
SPECIFICS OF THE AGREEMENT.
LET'S SAY THAT'S WHY SORT OF
WHEN THE COMMITTEE REPORT WAS
SAYING CASE BY CASE BUSINESS
CASE BY CASE.
AND SO FOR EXAMPLE LET'S SAY
THEY THEY SAYLET'S DO AN
AGREEMENT WHERE WE TAKE TURNS
PAYING TO UPGRADE CONNECTIONS SO
THAT DATA CAN FLOW BETWEEN OUR
NETWORKS WHICH WAY HOUSE BEING.
SUED PART OF THE PROBLEM.
THEN THEY WOULD AREN'T THEY
WOULD BE PAID IT. IN CAUGHT AND
THAT WILL BE TOTALLY LEGAL
BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING NO
CIRCUMVENTION WHATSOEVER ON. THE
NET NEUTRALITY RULES.
I AM IF SOMEONE SAID I WANT TO
DROP OFF MY TRAFFIC IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY WAS
COMCAST AND COMPRESS NEEDS TO
TRANSPORTED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND THEN ACROSS THE FINAL LIKE
LOST MY NETWORK.
THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH AN AND YOUR
CHILD TO BE A RULES TO GET THE
DATA TO THE CUSTOMER. AND I WAS
THE FINAL PIECE YOU KNOW WHEN
YOU ARE IS LIKE WHAT'S THE
COMPETITIVE MARKET LIKE THE RED
TWO PIECES HERE. ONE IS THE THE
LAST MILE TO THE CUSTOM ALTHOUGH
THE AXIS NETWORK THAT'S WHERE
COMCAST HAS A MONOPOLY OVER
ACCESS TO ITS CUSTOMERS IF
SOMEONE WANTS TO GET TO ME. THEY
HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMCAST
THROUGH MY I SP THERE IS NO WAY
AROUND. AND I GUESS CON CUSTOMER
NOT FLEE OVER ACCESS TO ME.
AND THAT'S PROBLEMATIC BY
CONTRAST ALL THE OTHER MARKETS
IN THE NETWORK THE
INTERCONNECTION MARKETS THAT
COGENT IS COMPETING AND. THEY
HAVE FIBRE DE COMPETITIVE
MARKETS
AND SO THE PROBLEM IS SUSANA
NEUTRALITY TRIES TO GET IT AS IT
TRIES TO PUT IT ON PREVENT THE
S. P. FROM EXPLOITING THE
GATEKEEPER POWER. OVER ACCESS TO
THESE CUSTOMERS BUT IT'S NOT
INTERESTED IN TOUCHING.
RELATIONSHIPS IN THE NETWORK
THANK YOU WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON
FROM THERE.
KEEP SENATOR. YEAH THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER.
THE EARLIER IN THE IN THIS
CONVERSATION IS CONVERSATIONS
BEEN BEEN. VERY IN DEPTH BUT.
.
THERE WAS A THERE WAS A SOMEONE
SAID THAT MISS MCINTYRE HAD
HADN'T MISQUOTED OR WERE WE
DIDN'T EXACTLY SAY SOMETHING IT
WAS NOT EXACTLY RIGHT AND I WANT
TO KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COME UP
IN.
ADDRESS THAT.
AND THEN ALSO WITH THE.
EIGHTEEN TO MAYBE MISTER DIVIDE
CAN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT SOME
OF THE RIVER CAN MAKE SOME ROOM
UNDER THE TABLE PLEASE FOR
MISTER DIVIDE THINGS THAT WERE
SAID.
I THINK YOU SENATOR PROVIDE
ACTING COMMITTEE AND I THINK THE
PROFESSOR ACTUALLY STATED.
THAT I HAD MISSED SPOKE WITH
REGARDS TO THE TWENTY FIFTEEN
ORDER. AND THE FACT THAT THEY
DID NOT PROHIBIT INTERCONNECTION
AGREEMENTS THEY DID IN FACT
SUGGEST THAT THEY WOULD LOOK.
AFTER MY CASE BY CASE BASIS BUT
WHILE SHE SAID THAT BEFORE HER
COMMENTS WERE DONE AND I THOUGHT
SHE TO HAD POINTED OUT THAT THE
CONTRACTS ON A CASE BY CASE
BASIS.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION HERE THAT
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TO CLARIFY.
FOR PURPOSES OF THE DISCUSSION
THAT.
AB PART OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD
TODAY ESPECIALLY WITH HIS LAST A
DISCUSSION HERE IS IN FACT ABOUT
A COMPETITIVE BACOLOR TRANSPORT
PARK IT.
WHERE WE HAVE A PARTICIPANT
MISTER I THE CEO OF COACHING
HERE?
PART TO THAT PARTICIPATES IN
THAT MARKET HE IS NOT A LAST
SMILE PROVIDER BUT HE IS
PROVIDING A COMPETITIVE
TRANSPORT SERVICE JUST AS OUR
COMPANIES ARE. AND THE BILL
WOULD PROHIBIT ISPS FROM BEING
ABLE TO CHARGE AT PROVIDERS AND
OTHERS FOR. OUT THE CARRYING OF
CERTAIN CONTENT TO REACH ITS END
USERS WHILE IT WOULD NOT IBM OUR
COMPETITORS LIKE COGENT AND HOW
COME MY AND THE MANY OTHER
PROVIDERS OUT THERE THAT PROVIDE
SERVICE IN THIS SPACE.
NOW JUST WHAT REFERENCE IN THE
BILL WOULD THAT BE.
THE EITHER THAT'S THE AYE
DEFINITION AND THE PROHIBITION
AGAINST THE INTERCONNECTION
AGREEMENTS WITH REGARDS TO
PEERING SEVENTEEN SEVENTY SIX A
SUBDIVISION FEE TO THE PAN AND
ON MY AMENDMENTS.
STRUCTURE NO THEY DID NOT ARE
YOUR AMENDMENTS DID NOT TOUCH ON
THE OUT APPEARING OR
INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT
PROVISIONS OR THE I. ZERO RATING
PERMISSION.
WHEN AGAIN.
THE REASON I I I BROUGHT UP THAT
IT WAS.
.
REMOVE BECAUSE IT WAS AND WE
INSERTED CASE BY CASE WHICH
DOESN'T.
EIGHT THE CASE BY CASE FOCUSES
ON UNCOMPETITIVE ACTIVITY.
SO SO THAT'S WHAT.
THAT THAT'S THE ACTUAL BUILDING
THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE
AMENDMENTS YES.
CENTER I MEAN MISTER THE
THINKCENTRE DIVIDE.
I JUST GET. THE MOST GOD OR A
DEMOTED.
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE THANK YOU HOPEFULLY
GET MORE PAY LESS PAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
COME UP AND AND RESPOND THERE
WAS SO MUCH IT WAS SAID.
BUT LET ME DO A COUPLE OF
THINGS IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE SEVEN
SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS UNDER THE
TITLE OF WHO PAYS. IN THE MIDDLE
OF THAT PARAGRAPH IT
SPECIFICALLY SAYS THIS BILL
WOULD PROHIBIT. HEARING THIS IS
IN YOUR INTERCONNECTION SECTION
PROHIBIT PEERING AGREEMENTS IN
THE ABSENCE OF PEERING
AGREEMENTS COSTS FOR NETWORK
UPGRADES COULD EITHER BE
ABSORBED BY THAT ISPS.
OR PASSED ON TO CONSUMERS.
IMAGINE THIS TODAY NETFLIX
ANNOUNCED FIRST QUARTER PROFITS
THEIR STOCK WENT UP EIGHT
PERCENT THEY ADDED TWO MILLION
NEW CUSTOMERS IN THE FIRST
QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. VERY
PROFITABLE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.
NOW IF YOU'RE POSTING FAVORED
OPPOSE WHAT WITH.
I KNOW AND YOU KNOW AND ALL THIS
WITH OUR FIND THE RECORD I JUST
WANTED TO RESPOND. IN THE OLD
THAT FIX MODEL.
THEY MAILED A DVD. TO YOUR HOME
AND THEN HAD TO WAIT FOR YOU TO
RETURN IT IF YOU COULD PLEASE
S. B. SPARKLY SPECIFICALLY
QUESTION.
OF OF WHERE YOU.
THE INFORMATION WAS INCORRECT
THE INFORMATION BASICALLY IS. IF
YOU CANNOT BE PAID BY THE A
CONTENT PROVIDER.
AS IF THE ISP CANNOT BE PER PAID
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST
FOR UPGRADING INFRASTRUCTURE
WILL BE PAID FOR. BY THE END
USER.
I TESTIFIED IN MY EARLIER
COMMENTS WERE INVESTING OVER TWO
AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHICH
IS ONE OF MANY COMPANIES IN THE
STATE THAT ARE BUILDING TODAY.
ALL OF THOSE COSTS ARE SHARED
TODAY BY THOSE WHO WANT TO PUT
INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET.
AS WELL AS THOSE CONSUMERS THAT
RECEIVE INFORMATION ON THE.
IF YOU TAKE OFF THE INPUT. THAT
A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST
HAS TO GO TO THE END USER
THE SECOND ISSUE MISTER CHAIRMAN
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE
RESULT OF CONVERSATION AND
CONFUSION ABOUT ZERO RATING.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE THIS
OBSERVATION.
AT EIGHTEEN T. AND IT'S TRUE OF
MOST OF OUR COMPETITORS.
AT IS WE OFFER ZERO RATING AT
THE SAME UNIT PRICE
TO ALL PROVIDERS REGARDLESS OF
THEIR SIZE OR THE AMOUNT OF
CONTENT THEY WANNA COVER. THERE
ARE NO VOLUME DISCOUNTS THERE'S
NO CONTRACT THERE'S NO MINIMUM
COMMITMENTS.
ANY LARGE OR SMALL PROVIDER.
CAN ACCESS ZERO RATING AT
WHOLESALE RATES AND IT CREATES A
WONDERFUL WINDOW FOR A COMPANY
THAT IS NEW AND SMALL.
TO REACH OUT TO CUSTOMERS IN A
WAY THEY OTHERWISE COULD NOT DO
IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW
INNOVATION.
IT IS WORKING EXTRAORDINARILY
WELL CONSUMERS LOVE THE SERVICE.
THIS BILL PUT SIGNIFICANT LIMITS
ON ZERO RATING AND DENIES
CONSUMERS A SERVICE THAT THEY
ENJOY THAT IS LESS COSTLY WE
WOULD URGE THAT FOR THAT TO BE
CHANGED THANK YOU MISTER.
THANK YOU WHAT WILL LEARN OF GO
TO.
BUT IF YOU CAN WRAP UP.
BRIEFLY.
BRIEFLY I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AND I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT WE
HAVE A MOTION. CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL AND THE ROLE IS TO
ACCEPT.
THE BILL WITH.
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND TO
ALSO ACCEPT. THE AUTHORS
AMENDMENTS WERE SPLINTERED.
YESTERDAY.
WELL THOSE ARE THE COMMUTER
AMENDMENTS
WELL OKAY LA WILL INCLUDE THOSE
IN THE COMMITTEE MEMBER.
THERE.
I FOR ONE HAVE YOU SUBMITTED.
OF WHAT.
THE ALSO SUBMITTED DOESN'T.
RIGHT THE IMP THE MARKUP OF THE
COMMITTEE ACCEPTED OR.
DISTRIBUTED THIS MORNING.
OTHERS OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
WERE ACCEPTED.
OKAY AND.
THERE ARE SOME LITTLE THINGS WE
HAVE TO FIX WITH THEM AND WORLD
WILL WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE ON
CLARIFYING WHAT THAT IS.
OKAY.
BUT WHAT WHAT WHAT LITTLE THINGS
THE OTHER SOME.
MARKUPS AND WASN'T.
RIGHT COULDN'T MOVE RESERVE
UNION LIKE TYPOS ARE.
POTENTIALLY.
NOTHING MAJOR NOTHING MAJOR.
OUT WE HAVE.
EXCEPT THE.
.
DEPRESSED WOMAN.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO DISH.
WEST SO. I WAS SO AYE MORALE. NO
BRADFORD.
CANNELLA.
DELANO HERTZBERG.
HILL HILL AYE MCGUIRE.
SKINNER.
STERN. STERN I INVITE ACT MIGHT
ACT NO WIENER AYE WIENER AYE.
OKAY WILL WILL HOLD THE ROLE FOR
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS WILL HEAR A.
S. B. ONE THOUSAND BY. SENATOR
LOTT ARE.
THERE ARE NO.
THIS MONEY TO SAVE.
YEAH.
WELL.
THAT.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MURDERS. I AGAIN WAS A THANK YOU
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK
ON SB ONE THOUSAND AND I
APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK WILL.
ACCEPT ALL THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS AS OFFERS AMENDMENTS.
WERE.
MEMBERS WERE ON THE WAY THE
GOVERNOR BROWN'S GOAL OF ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE CHARGES
STATIONS MUST BE CONVENIENT FOR
ALL PEOPLE. MANY CALIFORNIANS
DEVON MULTI FAMILY APARTMENT
BUILDINGS THAT LACK. OF HOME
CHARGING OPPORTUNITY MANY
CALIFORNIANS ALSO LACKED
CHARGING AT WORK.
AND THEREFORE WE NEED TO ENSURE
THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE CHARGING
IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL COMMUNITIES.
AS AN E. EVEY OWNER MYSELF I CAN
TELL YOU THAT CHARGING SPEED
MUST BE PART OF THE ACCESS
DISCUSSION. S. B. ONE THOUSAND
PROMOTES ACCESS TO SPEED IN OUR
COMMUNITIES BY INCLUDING
PROXIMITY TO FAST CHARGING AS
PART OF THE CRITERIA. IN OUR
PUBLIC INVESTMENTS THIS BILL
WILL HELP PREVENT A SCENARIO
WHERE SOME COMMUNITIES IN OUR
STATE HAVE ACCESS TO VERY FAST
CHARGING WHILE OTHERS GET LEFT
BEHIND. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
ACCESS TO OTHER TECHNOLOGIES
SUCH AS BROADBAND INTERNET AS WE
WERE DISCUSSING FOR HOURS.
THEY USE OF PUBLIC POLICY TO
GET.
ALL THE COMMUNITIES OF TO BASIC
LEVEL IS IMPORTANT.
I THAT IS THAT.
WHAT THIS BILL SEEKS TO DO WITH
CHARGING STATIONS IN PROMOTES
BASIC ACCESS TO CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE?
AND CERTAIN CALIFORNIANS WILL
NOT CHOOSE ELECTRIC VEHICLES
OVER TRADITIONAL VEHICLES IF
THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE
CONVENIENCE OF CHARGING STATIONS.
THE SECOND COMPONENT TO SP ONE
THOUSAND IS TO ADDRESS. BARRIERS
TO HEAVY DUTY FLEETS ELECTRIC
TRUCK TECHNOLOGY LAGS BEHIND
THAT OF DIE LIKE TO THE CARS BUT
WE HAVE TWO MODELS OF ELECTRIC
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLE TRUCKS NOW ON
THE MARKET.
BUT NOW A AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER
IS THE PRICING OF CHARGING. OUR
HEAVY DUTY FLEETS ARE DISTINCTLY
OLD ON THE GRID AND THIS BILL
SEEKS TO.
NORMALIZE THE COST FOR THE
ELECTRICITY FOR THE STREETS.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR ABOUT
THANK YOU.
.
DO WE HAVE SUPPORTERS AND I DO
HAVE SPEAKERS AS PART.
SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION ANYTHING
OPPOSITION.
LET LET'S COME TO THE COMMITTEE
WE HAVE A MOTION. AT CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
STEVE HADLEY STEPPED.
YES.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO
TRANSPORTATION HOUSING COMMITTEE
WESO.
AND AND WILL ACCEPT HIS OPENING
COMMENTS IS CLOSING COMMENTS.
HUESO AYE HUESO AYE MORALE
BRADFORD CANNELLA. CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG HILL MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN BIDAK ARE BY THAT GUY
WIENER.
OKAY LA KIM GET A MOTION ON THE
CONSENT THAT FELT.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
S. BE THIRTEEN FIFTY EIGHT HUESO
DO PASTURE APPROPRIATIONS WESO.
LESS SO I MORALE BRADFORD
CANNELLA. CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG
HILL MCGUIRE SKINNER STERN. IRAQ.
BY A GUY'S STERN AYE WIENER AYE
WIENER AYE REVIVED.
HILL AYE HERTZBERG AYE.
WELL I AM STILL A.
CONSENT CONSENT CALENDAR WITH
MILLIONS.
DO YOU.
SURVEILLANCE. FELT LIKE. WE
PLAYED ON WILL ONLY THAT ON
CRAWFORD ABSENT MEMBERS.
IN THE.
NTFC.
YEAH WE CALL OF THE OF THE LOT
OF BILL AGAIN AND AND.
CALL ABSENT MEMBERS AND HISTORY
ONE THOUSAND.
S. B. ONE THOUSAND LARA ABSENT
MEMBERS CLICK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL THE PASSES AMENDED TO
TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING
MORALE.
YES AYE MORALE AYE A BRADFORD.
HERTZBERG LIKE YOU HERTZBERG AYE
HILL. HILL AYE MCGUIRE MCGUIRE
AYE SKINNER AYE. STERN. STERN
AYE WIENER. WIENER AYE.
FOLKS LET ME.
OKAY AND. IT HAS WHILE WE'RE AT
IT COMPLETELY.
WE TAKE UP.
SP EIGHT TO TO THE
COMMUNICATIONS.
THIS BE A TO TO CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
I AM.
S. B. EIGHTEEN TD PASSES AMENDED
IT OKAY SHERRY COMMITTEE CURRENT
VOTE FOR THREE CHAIR VOTING AYE
VICE CHAIR MONNING NO. BRADFORD.
HERTZBERG.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO AYE
ADOPTED STATEMENT THAT SENATOR
WIENER ADOPTED WITH RESPECT TO
SENATOR DODD'S MEASURE WHICH IS.
YOU NO LOOK I I THINK IT'S FAIR
TO AYE THE NECESSARY AGREE WITH
THE ANALYSIS DONE BY THE.
PROFESSOR FROM STANFORD BUT I
DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH
MORE TIME TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT
BUT I DON'T ONE I MEAN I'M HAPPY
TO.
VOTE FOR TODAY BUT I WANT TO
FURTHER CONFIRM WITH YOU CAUSE I
GET IT JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND I
WANT THIS TO HAVE NO COMMITMENT
IS TO JUDICIARY OR. ON THE FLOOR
THING.
I DON'T KNOW.
HERTZBERG HERTZBERG HERTZBERG
AYE MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER.
S. B. NINE ONE DODD.
GOOD. AND. NEVER LET HER.
.
M. S. B. NINE I WENT IDEA PASSES
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CURRENT VOTE EIGHT ZERO CANNELLA.
CANNELLA AYE SKINNER WIENER.
WIENER AYE.
AND.
ITEM SEVEN TEN EIGHTY EIGHT DOT.
DO YOU PASS A GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE VOTE
SEVEN ONE.
MORRELL.
BRADFORD SO SOMEONE WILL CALL THE ROLL
OPEN AND WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN.
WE'RE GONNA RECESS SORRY WE'RE
GONNA RECESS UNTIL.
THE INTERNMENT OF ELECTIONS
COMMITTEE WHICH ELECTION STARTS
AT WHAT TIME. WHEN. ONE OF ONE
SO WARRANTED PLAN SOMETIME
AROUND TWO O'CLOCK RECONVENE
HERE.
THIRTY A ONE TO ONE THIRTY.
SO START LOOKING AT ELECTIONS
SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO O'CLOCK AND
WE'LL RECONVENE DEFENSE. AT THAT
TIME INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE ALSO
WILL WILL.
RECONVENE.
THIS MEETING OF THE STATE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY UTILITIES
AND COMMUNICATIONS.
FOR A START WORD SENATOR MONIES
AS BE TEN NINETY WELCOME SENATOR
.
THANK YOU I MISTER CHAIR.
MEMBERS.
ON JANUARY ELEVENTH OF THIS YEAR
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION APPROVED P. GENIES
REQUEST TO RETIRE DIABLO CANYON.
NUCLEAR FACILITY BY TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE.
BUT TO OUR DISAPPOINTMENT THE PC
DID NOT APPROVE THE COMMUNITY
IMPACT MITIGATION PROGRAM WERE
FULLY FUNDS THE EMPLOYEE
RETENTION PROGRAM. THAT ARE
VITAL COMPONENTS
TO THE SUCCESS OF THE PLANTS
RETIREMENT.
BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS WILL
PROVIDE A BRIDGE TO OUR REGION.
TRANSITION TO CLOSURE OF DIABLO
CANYON MOVES FORWARD.
SENATE BILL TEN NINETY
AUTHORIZES
CPUC TO APPROVE ELEMENTS OF THE
JOINT PROPOSAL.
THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF
THE RETIREMENT APPLICATION
INCLUDING EIGHTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS FOR THE COMMUNITY IMPACT
MITIGATION PROGRAM.
REQUIRES FULL FUNDING OF THE
EMPLOYEE RETENTION PROGRAM AND
DIRECTS THE P. YOU SEE TO MANAGE
ITS INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN. TO
ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO INCREASE
OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IS A
RESULT OF THE RETIREMENT.
A COMMUNITY HAS ASSUME THE
PUBLIC SAFETY RISK
FOR THE PAST THIRTY THREE YEARS
WELL ALL P. GENIE CUSTOMERS HAVE
REALIZED THE BENEFITS OVER THE
PAST SEVERAL DECADES.
RESIDENTS WILL CONTINUE.
SHOULDER THE RISK
A PLANK CONTINUES TO RUN OPERATE
IN BEYOND ITS CLOSURE.
AS THE SPENT FUEL RODS WILL
CONTINUE TO BE HOUSED THERE.
THIS IS A.
MISTER CHAIR OF EMERGENCY
PLANNING CALENDAR IT IS
DISTRIBUTED EVERY YEAR TO
RESIDENTS
BY THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
SERVICES.
IT HAS.
PAGE ON HOW TO USE AND OBTAIN
POTASSIUM IODIDE IN THE EVENT OF
RADIATION EXPOSURE.
IT PROVIDES
EVACUATION ROUTES OUT OF SAN
LUIS OBISPO COUNTY FOR RESIDENTS
IN THE EVENT. OF A NUCLEAR
ACCIDENT
AT THE FACILITY.
THE COUNTER ALSO PROVIDES.
TEAR OFF SLIPPED TO MILLION.
HERE POTASSIUM IODIDE
FOR RESIDENTS
I SHARE THIS BECAUSE OF THE.
STRAORDINARIO RISK THAT HAS BEEN
SHOULDERED AND WILL CONTINUE TO
BE SHOULDERED BY RESIDENTS WHILE
ALL PEACHY ANY CUSTOMERS.
HAVE BENEFITTED FROM THERE
ENERGY GENERATED BY THE PLANT
AND WILL CONTINUE. OVER THE NEXT
SEVEN YEARS
BENEFIT FROM THE ENERGY
GENERATED.
COMMUNITY INCLUDING STAKEHOLDERS
THAT REPRESENT LABOR
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY LOCAL
GOVERNMENT IMPEACHING ANY.
SPENT.
HOURS WEEKS AND MONTHS
NEGOTIATING THE JOINT PROPOSAL.
MY PRINCIPAL CO AUTHOR IS
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CUNNINGHAM WHO
ALSO REPRESENTS SAN LUIS OBISPO
COUNTY.
AND MISTER CHAIR WITH YUR
PERMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. OF THE
BILL
THIS AFTERNOON STARTING WITH
REPRESENTATIVES OF IBEW LOCAL
TWELVE FORTY FIVE.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SCOTT
WHICH MBF THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION OF UTILITY EMPLOYEES
IN THE STATE ASSOCIATION OF
ELECTRICAL WORKERS.
REQUIRING A RETENTION PAYMENTS
AND SEVERANCE PACKAGES TO THE
WORKFORCE OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES
ARE BEING DECOMMISSIONED IS NOT.
WITHOUT PRECEDENT IT IS IS
COMMON OPERATING PROCEDURE IN
FACT DURING THE P. YOU SEE
PROCESS.
EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED WITH
EXPERTISE IN EMPLOYEE MANAGEMENT
OF NUCLEAR DECOMMISSIONING
AGREED. THAT RETENTION PROGRAMS
WERE APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY.
WITHOUT THOSE RETENTION
PROGRAMS THE FOLKS THE CRITICAL
STAFF THAT OPERATE IN KEEP THE
NEW OPERATING SAFELY.
A WILL SEEK EMPLOYMENT THERE'S
HEAD HUNTERS WHO WHO GO OUT AND
IN TH AND SEARCH THESE PEOPLE
OUT TO GO TO WORK IN OTHER
STATES.
IN NEW FACILITIES AND IN
EXISTING FACILITIES IN FACT
FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES A SHUT DOWN.
A FACILITIES IF THEY DO NOT.
HAVE ADEQUATE A LICENSED
OPERATORS.
.
DURING THE PROCEEDING BEFORE THE
P. YOU SEE.
A.
THE OFFICE OF REPAIR ADVOCATE
WAS THE OUT LIAR.
THEY AGREED THAT PAYMENT NEEDED
TO BE PAID BUT IN FOUR SHORT
PARAGRAPHS WITH NO EXPERT NO
ANALYSIS NO DATA.
JUST OPINION THEY SAID THAT THE
RETENTION PACKAGE WHICH WAS
COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED BY THE
IBEW.
WAS TOO MUCH.
ON THAT POINT MISTER CHAIRMAN A.
WE WERE VERY ACTIVE IN THE
EFFORTS TO KEEP DIABLO CANYON
OPEN.
WHEN WE STARTED IN DISCUSSIONS
WITH THE POTENTIAL OF CLOSING OR
NOT SEEKING RE PERMITTING.
BUT WE NEGOTIATED THROUGH
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING A
SEVERINSEN RETENTION PACKAGE
THAT WAS PART OF OUR DECISION
NOT TO PURSUE OTHER LEGAL
REMEDIES THAT WE HAD TOURISTS TO
TO BOOT TUBE TO BLOCK THE SHUT
DOWN OF OF. DIABLO CANYON.
SO TO NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL OUR
COMMITMENTS TO OUR WORKERS THAT
WE NEGOTIATED AGAIN IN A
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCESS.
IS JUST UP IS AN ACCEPTABLE TO
US WITH ME TODAY IS AN OPERATOR
WHO DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM SAN
LUIS OBISPO MISTER CHAIRMAN TO
TALK ABOUT.
HOW THE FACILITY OPERATES IN
THE RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT HAVING
AN ADEQUATE RETENTION PACKAGE
I'D LIKE TO HAVE HIM SAY A FEW
WORDS?
A GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS JEREMY NGUYEN AND I
AM A LICENSED REACTOR OPERATOR A
DOUBLE KENYA POWER PLANT.
I'VE BEEN WORKING AT THE POWER
PLANT FOR APPROXIMATELY NINETEEN
YEARS.
I AM FORTY ONE YEARS OLD HAVE A
WIFE I HAVE TWO KIDS TWO BOYS OF
MY OLD WHO'S IN A HIGH SCHOOL
NEXT YEAR MY YOUNGEST IN JUNIOR
HIGH.
I GREW UP IN SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY.
JUST SOUTH OF SAN THOSE COUNTY
WHERE THE POWER PLANT RESIDES.
I AM LUCKY ENOUGH IN OF WORK
HARD ENOUGH TO BUILD MYSELF A
CAREER.
THAT HAS ALLOWED ME TO RAISE MY
FAMILY IN THE VERY SAME
COMMUNITY AND WHICH MY WIFE AND
I WERE RAISED.
HOW MY DREAM HAS BEEN FOR MY
BOYS TO ATTEND THE SAME HIGH
SCHOOL THAT I ATTENDED?
AND THAT.
MY WIFE AND I BOTH GRADUATED
FROM.
I CURRENTLY AM ENJOYING COACHING
BOTH MY SONS IN A BASEBALL TEAMS
BOTH IN LITTLE LEAGUE AND BABE
RUTH.
IT'S HERE THAT I DON'T TEACH MY
SONS OF A BASEBALL TEAM WORK AND
DISCIPLINE.
BUT I ALSO GET TO THE CHANCE TO
HELP OTHER YOUNG MEN IN THEIR.
IN THE COMMUNITY AS I'M VICE
PRESIDENT ON A LITTLE LEAGUE
BOARD.
THE POWER PLANT ITSELF AT WORK
HARD TO ESTABLISH MYSELF AS A
KNOWLEDGEABLE DEPENDABLE CO
WORKER.
I STARTED WORKING AT YEAH KENYON
WHEN I WAS TWENTY TWO YEARS OLD.
I SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE.
PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM WHICH IS A
THREE YEAR PROGRAM.
AND THEN ALSO ATTEND BY NRC
LICENSE WHICH IS A TWO YEAR
PROGRAM.
BOTH OF THESE COURSES ARE HIGHLY
TRAINED HIGHLY TESTED AND
ADMINISTERED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IN OUR C. IN WHICH I
ACHIEVED RECEIVE MAYA AND I SEE
LICENSE.
IT IS THIS TRAINING THAT MAKES
IS HIGHLY SPECIALIZED AND UNIQUE
AND IT ALSO MAKES IT EXTREMELY
DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND. OTHER
WORK THAT IS COMPARABLE OUTSIDE
OF NUCLEAR POWER.
THAT IN POINT IS WHAT.
HAS A LOT OF US LOOKING FOR
EMPLOYMENT ELSEWHERE IT'S NOT
INSIDE CALIFORNIA.
IT'S INSIDE THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY.
AS THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY BEGINS
TO USE.
AS LITTLE INDUSTRY BEGINS TO.
.
SHRINK IN SIZE MORE MORE POWER
PLANTS CLOSE.
THAT THE THE HUNDRED FOR MORE
JOBS BECOMES MORE AND MORE
DIFFICULT
SO EMPLOYEES ARE NOW BEGINNING
TO LOOK NOW. THEY'RE NOT WAITING
FOR THE POWER PLANT CLOSE.
WITH A FIFTY PERCENT.
RETENTION PACKAGE THAT WAS
AUTHORIZED BY THE CPUC. WE HAVE
EMPLOYEES THAT UP ALREADY
ALTHOUGH SIGNED THAT RETENTION
GRIMMETT HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO
SEEK OTHER EMPLOYMENT.
WE FEEL TWENTY FIVE PERCENT
BONUS RETENTION PACKAGE IS
ACTUALLY MORE ADEQUATE.
TO HELP EMPLOYEES DECIDE TO STAY
AT THE POWER PLANT.
AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO CONTINUE
OPERATING THROUGH ITS END OF
LICENSE IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE.
THANK YOU.
CHAIR AFFECT PRESENT THE
CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS FROM ST LOUIS.
COUNTY.
JOHN HAS SHOWN.
THANK YOU.
THIS CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. OF AS YOU
KNOW SENATE BILL TEN NINETY HAS
BEEN CONSTRUCTED AS A THREE
LEGGED STOOL.
A TO MAINTAIN THE SAFE AND
SECURE OPERATION OF THE PLANT.
NOT TO ITS RETIREMENT.
THE BRIDGE FUNDING PROVIDED I'M
BY THE COMMUNITY IMPACT
MITIGATION PROGRAM IS AT LEAST
AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER TWO
LEGS OF THE STOOL.
P. GENIE ANNOUNCED ON JUNE
TWENTY SIXTEEN THAT IT WOULD NOT
SEEK TO RENEW THE FEDERAL
LICENSES FOR DIABLO CANYONS UNIT
ONE AND TWO.
WHEN THOSE LICENSES EXPIRE IN
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR AND TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE.
ALTHOUGH PGA ANY HAD NEGOTIATED
CLOSURE TERMS FOR SOME OTHER
PARTIES AND HAD INCLUDED
COMMUNITY MITIGATION FUNDS.
FORTY NINE MILLION DOLLARS IN
THAT SETTLEMENT IT SOON BECAME
CLEAR THAT THE FORTY MIND
MILLION DOLLARS WAS INADEQUATE
AMOUNT TO MAINTAIN SERVICES.
ROTH DURING THE NINE YEAR
CLOSURE PERIOD.
SAN LOUIS OBISPO COUNTY
ST LOUIS COASTAL UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT AND THE SEVEN CITIES IN
OUR COUNTY.
BEGAN MEETING WITH P. GENIE IN
THE FRANCHISE TAX BOARD TRYING
TO DETERMINE.
THE TRUE EFFECT OF THE DECISIONS
TO SET
PLANNED RETIREMENT DATE.
IN THE END WE ARRIVED AT A
FIGURE OF EIGHTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS TO BE COLLCTED AS PART
OF RATES OVER A NINE YEAR PERIOD.
THE COMMUNITY IMPACT MITIGATION
FUND HAS TWO COMPONENTS.
THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES
MITIGATION FUND WOULD CONSIST OF
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
AND IT'S DESIGNED TO SUSTAIN
ESSENTIAL SERVICES AT THE
CURRENT LEVELS.
THE SERVICES TO BE FUNDED
INCLUDE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY
PROGRAMS FIRE DISTRICTS WATER
FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT'S
INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE AND
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND SCHOOL
STAFF.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND OF
TEN MILLION DOLLARS IS DESIGNED
TO PROVIDE SEAT FUNDING FOR
EARLY AND TARGETED LOCAL
ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT BY THE
COUNTY AND ITS SEVEN CITIES.
IT IS CRUCIAL THAT THE PLANTS
HOST COMMUNITY BEGIN
RESTRUCTURING ITS ECONOMY BEFORE.
THE CLOSURE.
THE COMMUNITY IMPACT MITIGATION
FUND IS A BRIDGE FUNDING TO
ALLOW SAFE PLANT OPERATION BY
EXPERIENCED DIABLO EMPLOYEES
UNTIL PLANNED RETIREMENT.
EMPLOYEE RETENTION IS ESSENTIAL
FOR DIABLO CANYON BECAUSE EACH
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT HAS UNIQUE
OPERATING REQUIREMENTS.
OUR PLAN ALLOWS THE EXISTING
EXPERIENCE WORKFORCE A DIABLO TO
AVOID LEAVING FOR BETTER JOBS AT
PLANTS.
THERE ARE NOT PLANNING TO CLOSE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THESE EMPLOYEES WILL BE ASSISTED
WITH THE EMPLOYEE RETENTION
COMPONENTS OF THIS BILL BUT THEY
NEED TO BE ASSURED THAT THEIR
COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE THEM FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
WITH DECENT EDUCATION
OPPORTUNITIES AND NECESSARY
PUBLIC SERVICES.
THE RATEPAYERS WILL SEE A SMALL
INCREASE IN THEIR ENERGY BILLS A
FEW CENTS PER MONTH PLUS THE
PROGRAM DOES NOT GO ON. IN PER
TOOTIE.
THE RATE INCREASES WILL BE IN
EFFECT FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS
THIS IS THE EQUITABLE BRIDGE
FUNDING SUPPORT PROVISION.
THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE
SUPPORTED THE PLANT
DURING ITS ENTIRE OPERATING LIFE
AND WILL SUPPORT THE SPENT FUEL
FACILITY AT THE PLANT FOR THE
FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS DELANEY
HUNTER ON BEHALF THE SAN LUIS
COASTAL UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
WE ARE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT
THAT'S MOST IMPACTED BY THIS
FACILITY.
THE PRICE PER SEAN MENTIONED WE
SEE THIS FUNDING AS A BRIDGE WE
KNOW WE HAVE THINGS WE HAVE TO
DO TO GET OUR BUDGET READY FOR
THE EVENTUAL CLOSURE. THIS IS
JUST NEEDED SO THAT WE DON'T
DROP OFF CLIFF FOR US IT'S A
HUNDRED AND TEN TEACHERS AND FOR
SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE IF
WE DON'T HAVE THE BILL PASSED
TODAY. FOR THOSE REASONS WE
ORDER SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIR JUST MILAN FOR THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL LOS IN SUPPORT OF THIS
WE BELIEVE THIS WILL ENABLE A
SAFE CLOSURE OF THIS PONTOON
ALSO REPLACEMENT UP SAFE A LOW
CARBON. ENERGY ALTERNATIVES
THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS FRANK LINDA
I'M THE RETIRED GENERAL COUNSEL
OF THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION I'M HERE TODAY ON
BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE EARTH.
AND WE SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION
THANK YOU.
RICHARD HARMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF PISMO BEACH IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE LEGISLATURE.
PERSONAL BECKER ALLIANCE FOR
NUCLEAR RESPONSIBILITY IN
SUPPORT OF THE LEGISLATION WE
ARE THE ONLY COUNTY THE GETS
CALENDAR EVERY YEAR THE FIRST
TEN PAGES. HOW TO EVACUATE THE
RADIATIONS OWNS THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY
HAS POTASSIUM IODIDE PILLS IN
CASE THERE'S A RADIOACTIVE
RELEASE SO IN TURN SAYS? OTHER
FACILITIES CLOSE AND THEY DON'T
GET PAYMENTS NOBODY ELSE HAS
THESE DOES PET.
THOSE.
OKAY I'M I'M SORRY I RUSHED IN
AND TO GET THINKING.
CHAIRMAN BILL MANNHEIM PGA
ANYWHERE IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
THE DISC THE DECISION TO CLOSE
THE ABA CANYON HAS BEEN MADE AND
THAT'S A PERMANENT DECISION IT'S
BEEN APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES.
THE COALITION OF OF OF GROUPS
THAT CAME TOGETHER JOIN IN THAT
PROPOSAL.
DID SO TO CREATE A SEVEN YEAR
ADVANCE PERIOD.
THE FIRST TIME.
FOR A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
CLOSURE HAS BEEN MANAGED IN A
WAY THAT YOU HAVE SEVEN YEARS TO
DEAL WITH.
THE IMPACT THE REPLACEMENT ARM
OF THOSE FACILITIES AND AND THE
BLUEPRINT WAS TO REPLACE THE ABA
CANYON WITH GREENHOUSE GAS FREE
RESOURCES.
CRITICAL FOR THAT MISSION TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
THAT YOU HAVE THE STAFF
NECESSARY TO OPERATE.
THROUGH THAT SEVEN YEAR.
DIABLO IS ONE OF THE FINEST
OPERATING PLANTS.
A TREE IT HAS AN INCREDIBLE
SAFETY RECORD AND WE NEED TO
KEEP THAT TEAM.
THERE AT THE PLANT OP OPERATING
THROUGH TO THE FINISH LINE THANK
YOU.
.
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD
COMMITTEE
BOB MY DRUG HABIT I'M ARE RECTOR
INSTRUMENTATION AND CONTROL
TECHNICIAN TO DIABLO IN AN IBEW
STEWARD. AND.
I JUST WANTED TO
STATEMY CASE IS ALSO THAT THE
FIFTEEN PERCENT IS NOT WORTH IT
NOT ONLY TO MYSELF. BY HERE FOR
MANY OTHER.
SIMILAR MEMBERS WHO.
AS UNION STORE COME TO ME AND
TELL ME THAT THEY INTEND TO
LEAVE DEFINITELY ESPECIALLY
DURING THE LAST THREE YEAR
PERIOD.
IF IT STAYS AT JUST FIFTEEN
PERCENT.
SUMMER OPERATORS JUST LIKE THE
OTHER INDIVIDUAL AND SOME OTHER.
MAINTENANCE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON CRITICAL
REACTOR SAFETY RESPONSE AND
MONITORING EQUIPMENT.
AND I KNOW THAT.
YOU THE ITEM KEEPS GETTING
REITERATED THAT.
IF TOO MANY OF US LEAVE THEN
PLANT CAN'T BE SAFELY OPERATE IT
I'M JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OTHER
MEMBERS HAVE DIRECTLY TOBY
CONTENTEDLY.
TAKE.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL OR YOU'RE NOT I'M IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL OF FOR
HAVING A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT
LESS TENSION. MANY HAVE STATED
THEY WOULD STAY FOR THE TWENTY
FIVE PERCENT BUT WOULD NOT STAY
FOR THE FIFTEEN
SENATE WRITTEN.
OKAY THANK YOU.
BUT AFTERNOON MY NAME IS OWEN
PARIS I DROVE UP TODAY FROM SAN
LUIS OBISPO.
.
I WILL ARE CURRENTLY WORKING PGM
ON PROUD MEMBER OF IBEW LOCAL
TWELVE FORTY FIVE.
FORTY FOUR YEARS OLD AND I WORK
IN ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE
DEPARTMENT AT DIABLO CANYON.
AND MY JOB IS TO MAINTAIN
ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS AT DIABLO.
IN ADDITION COMPLETING MY FIVE
YEAR PARTNERSHIP.
MILES TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF
HOURS EVERY YEAR LEARNING NEW
SKILLS AND MAINTAINING MY
PROFICIENCY ON THE SKILL THAT
ALREADY HAVE.
THIS CONTINUE TRAINING GIVES ME
THE SKILL SET TO ENSURE THE SAFE
AND RELIABLE OPERATIONS POWER
PLANT.
ON THE.
.
JUNE TWENTY SIXTEEN DOUBLE
ANNOUNCED IT WAS CLOSING.
A MY DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY SEEN
PEOPLE LEAVING.
I MADE THE COMMITMENT TO STAY
THROUGH TO TWENTY TWENTY FIVE.
WHEN UNITS ONE UNIT TO.
SHUT DOWN POINT TWENTY FIVE
I'LL BE FIFTY.
FIFTY IS NOT THE BEST YOUR. BEST
ASIA START LOOKING FOR NEW
CAREER OPPORTUNITIES.
.
ANOTHER OPTION FOR ME WOULD BE
TO STAT LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITIES NOW.
I'M IF MY IT MYSELF AND MY CO
WORKERS WERE TO DO THIS.
TO SECURE LONG TERM EMPLOYMENT
ELSEWHERE WE WILL BE LEAVING THE
MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TO OTHERS
WHO DO NOT HAVE THE SAME LEVEL
OF TRAINING. AND WHO DO NOT HAVE
THE TIME TO BECOME PROFICIENT IN
MAINTAINING AN OPERATING PLANT.
THE REASON I AGREED TO SUPPORT
POWER PLANT THROUGH ITS
RETIREMENT TWENTY FIVE.
BECAUSE THE TH
BECAUSE OF THE FULL RETENTION
OFFERED IN TWENTY SIXTEEN.
THE ORIGINAL ATTENTION GIVE ME
THE OPTION THAT ALLOWS ME A
SECURE STABLE EMPLOYMENT AFTER
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE.
THANK YOU SIR
THANK YOU AND I AM ASKED THE
REST OF THIS BECAUSE TRADE LIMIT
YOUR COMMENTS.
A STATE YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU'RE
REPRESENTING AND YOUR POSITION
ON THE BILL.
I CAN'T.
WE HAVE LOTS OF SPEAKERS ON THIS
BILL AND LOTS MORE BILLS TO HEAR.
CHARLOTTE STEVENS FROM MY VW
TWELVE FORTY FIVE WHEN SUPPORT
THE BILL THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON GERMAN SMITH FOR
W. TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN SUPPORT.
STEPHANIE CHAVIS I REALLY TO
FORTY FIVE S. SUPPORT THE BILL.
NO THE GARCIA TOUGH FORTY FIVE
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL MADE SURE
THAT WE RETAIN THIS THEM PLATES
WERE FULLY TRAINED AND KEEP THE
OPERATION SAFE OUT OF A CANNON.
I'VE READ IBEW LOCAL TWELVE
FORTY FIVE IS SUPPORTED THE BILL
FOR SAFETY.
BRYAN HAVE MEANT TO A FORTY FIVE
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS ALVIN
THEY OWN AYE LET'S COWORKER HERE
FOR RIDE B. DOUBLE TOLL FREE
FIVE AND ALSO HERE TO A SPORTS
BILL THANK.
CHURCH I CARILLO IPW FOR TWELVE
FORTY FIVE NM IN SUPPORT OF HIM.
KEVIN CRONISTA IBEW TWELVE FORTY
FIVE HERE TO SUPPORT THE BILL TO
KEEP FULLY TRAINED OF WORKERS AT
THE APPLE CANYON THANK YOU.
CHAIR MEMBERS JOHN WHITE WITH
CLEAN PARK CAMPAIGN IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL.
THANK YOU DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS IN
OPPOSITION.
HELLO I MARK TONY EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF TURN THE UTILITY
REFORM NETWORK.
WE WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE
BILL. AND.
WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER A
NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE
HAPPENED.
THE FIRST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE
WITH THIS BILL. IS THAT IT
REVERSES FEP IFFY DIFFUSION.
THIS WITH FULLY LITIGATED AT
THE P. YOU SEE. THE PNC AGREED
TO AUTHORIZE TWO HUNDRED AND
ELEVEN BILLION DOLLARS OF A
THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO
MILLION DOLLAR REQUEST. BY PGA
ANY FOR EMPLOYEE RETENTION
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE
THAT THE FEW FEE OF GONE THROUGH
A THOROUGH REVIEW A REASONABLE
THIS REVIEW.
AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THE
MAJORITY.
OF WHAT P. GENIE ASKED FOR WAS
REASONABLE.
BUT NOT THE FULL AMOUNT
SO THAT'S ONE IT'S.
IT IT'S REALLY A CHALLENGE.
THAT IF UP PARTIES ARE NOT
HAPPY WITH P. WITH THE DECISION
AND THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE
WORDED. THAT THEY FEEL THEY CAN
COME TO THE LEGISLATURE AS THE
COURT OF APPEAL.
IF YOU VOTE FOR THAT THAT WILL
HAPPEN A LOT MORE SO CONSIDER
THAT.
.
WE UNDERSTAND
THAT THE EIGHTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS THAT IS BEING REQUESTED
FOR THE COMMUNITIES IS.
HAVE A LOT OF VALUE.
WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE OTHER
WAYS TO CONSIDER FUNDING THAT.
THERE'S THE GENERAL FUND.
THERE ARE SHAREHOLDERS
PART OF THE CHALLENGE FEARS THAT
THE TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX
MILLION DOLLARS. THAT IS BEING
REQUESTED HERE.
ALL OF IT COMES OUT OF PGA IN
THE RATE PAYERS
IT COMES OUT OF PEOPLE MONTHLY
BILL.
OUR BIG CONCERN IS THAT.
DIABLO IF. THE ONLY POWER PLANTS
THAT HAVE CLOSED DOWN RECENTLY.
IF THINK IF THE LEGISLATURE TO
FIVE
TO MAKE RATE PAYERS.
PAY COMMUNITIES.
.
THEN A.
NOBODY IT'S IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
HAS GOTTEN.
FUNDS FOR FUNDS CLOTHING.
I WOULD EXPECT THEM WE'RE GOING
TO SEE SOME NATURAL GAS POWER
PLANTS
PROBABLY CLOSE THAT SOMETIME IN
THE FUTURE.
SO THAT'S THE SECOND THING IS
THAT YOU'RE SETTING UP PRESIDENT.
I THINK THE THIRD CONSIDERATION.
IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAVE
MANY MANY BILL THAT IS OF
CONSIDERING.
THAT HAS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS OF RATE PAIR IMPACT.
THERE ARE THREE OTHER BILL OF
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TODAY.
THAT HAVE LARGE RATE PAIR
IMPACTS
WE REALLY WANT ENCOURAGE THE
LEGISLATURE. TO LOOK ATINSTEAD
OF LOOKING AT EACH BILL ANA WIND
CAVE BY CAVE FAITH.
TO REALLY THINK ABOUT A WAY OF
LOOKING AT ALL OF THE BILL.
THE HAVE RAPE HERE IMPACT.
M. BUNDLE THEM.
PRIORITIZE THEM
INSTEAD OF VOTING.
ONE BY ONE.
SO.
PLEASE CONSIDER OTHER WAYS OF
FUNDING.
VERY IMPORTANT NEEDS THAT
COMMUNITIES HAVE.
THAT WE'RE SYMPATHETIC WITH.
AND ALSO PLEASE CONSIDER NOT
REVERSE THING A CPU FEED
DECISION THAT.
A GREAT NUMBER OF PARTIES WERE
INVOLVED IN OVER A LONG PERIOD
OF TIME
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UP UNABLE CHAIR HUESO AND COMMIT
COMMUNITY COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M
DOCTOR JEAN NELSON CGMP
GOVERNMENT LIAISON AS OUR NAME
SUGGESTS CALIFORNIANS FOR GREEN
NUCLEAR POWER IS A NONPROFIT
COMPOSED OF CALIFORNIANS WHO
APPRECIATE THE ADVANTAGES THAT
NUCLEAR POWER PROVIDES FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT. OUR BOARD INCLUDE
SCIENTIST EDUCATED AT TOP OUR
UNIVERSITIES CONSIDER TO BE
ELITE SPECIALISTS IN THEIR FIELD
EACH WITH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE.
OP INTERVENOR CGMP TIMELY FILED
AN APPLICATION FOR REHEARING. OF
P. GENIES CPUC APPLICATION.
HENCE
THE STATUS OF THAT APPLICATION
IS CURRENTLY RE OPENED.
HOW WERE RELATIVELY NEW TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS BUT A STEP
FOR TO HELP POLICY MAKERS MAKE
WISE DECISIONS BASED ON SCIENCE?
REGRETFULLY WE MUST OPPOSE SP
TEN NINETY UNLESS IT'S AMENDED
FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
I IN APRIL ELEVENTH TWENTY
EIGHTEEN PHONE CONVERSATION WITH
ME ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMEDIC
COMMITTEE CONSULTANT DOCTOR
DAVID E. GARCIA AGREED THAT
BASED ON MY ANALYSIS REPLACING
DIABLO CANYON. WITH CARBON FREE
ENERGY IS.
IMPOSSIBLE.
I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE
INSIGHT ENGAGEMENT OF THIS
COMMITTEE ARM AND OF I HOPE THAT.
CHIEF CONSULTANT TO THAT MANY
MANY ABOUT EASTER HAS.
STANSHALL AND VALUABLE EXPERTISE
IN THIS AREA AS FAMILIAR WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY MARKET
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD BE WISE
TO ASK HER.
TO WIT TO ANSWER WHETHER JOBLESS
POWER COULD BE REPLACED BY NEW
NON GREENHOUSE GAS FREE SOURCES
OR WHETHER THIS IS ASPIRATIONAL.
BUT NOT GROUNDED IN REALITY.
OF SEVERAL STATUTES REQUIRE THE
CPUC TO CONSIDER EACH DECISIONS
AFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN THE
DECISION TO RETIRE TABLE CANYON
THE CPUC UNLAWFULLY PUNTED.
THESE CONSIDERATIONS WILL BE
EXTRAORDINARY FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO STEP IN NOW AND
SET A PRECEDENT ARE ALLOWING THE
CPUC TO VIOLATE ITS DUTIES
PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN.
EVERY PROCEEDING UP BY
RETROACTIVELY CHANGING THE
STATUTORY DUTIES THESE ISSUES
ARE CURRENTLY BEING LITIGATED.
AND IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO MOVE THE GOALPOST
DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE
LITIGATION.
S. B. TEN NINETY CONTAINS MOSTLY
INOPERATIVE LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS
WHICH BASICALLY ACT AS A FIG
LEAF SECTION TO ONLY MANDATES OF
THE CPUC REQUIRE. PLOY HANDS.
THAT ARE QUOTE DESIGNED TO AVOID
NET ARM INCREASED EMISSIONS IT
DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYBODY TO SHOW
THAT DIABLO WILL BE REPLACED
WITH COULD CLAIM PARA TASK IS
HUGE. DIABOLO PRODUCES THE
EQUIVALENT OF FIVE HOOVER DAM'S
ANNUALLY WITHOUT EMITTING A
SPECK OF CARBON THANK ESTHER YOU
CAN READ.
HUSING IF YOU CAN WRECK WRAP UP
YOU COME TO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO
CERTAIN.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE A
SITUATION WILL JUST LIKE WHAT
TURN POINTED OUT WHERE IT'S OF
TAKING A PRIVATE UTILITY AND
FORCING THE CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS
PAY MARTY WHICH TAKE OVER.
DR MICHAEL
MAC AND I HAVE A PHD IN
ENGINEERING FROM UC BERKELEY.
I'M VOLUNTEERING MY TIME TODAY
TO REPRESENT CALIFORNIANS FOR%
GREEN NUCLEAR POWER AND I'M NOT
VERGE OF SENDING THE VIEWS OF
EMPLOYER.
THE CLOSURE OF THE ABLE CANYON
IS NOT SOMETHING THE LEGISLATURE
SHOULD INDOORS.
GIVEN CALIFORNIA'S COMMITMENT TO
ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE
THE WISDOM OF ABANDONING
CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST CARPENTRY
ENERGY SOURCE.
CONTINUES TO BE CHALLENGED BY
ENGINEERS CLIMATOLOGIST.
ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND LOCAL
RESIDENTS
DIABLO CANYON PROVIDES ONE TENTH
OF CALIFORNIA'S TOTAL
ELECTRICITY NEEDS ECONOMICALLY
AND GREENHOUSE GAS THREE.
S. B. TEN NINETY WILL JUST
RESULT IN SHUFFLING OF EXISTING
GREENHOUSE GAS RESOURCES AND
IMPROPER RELIANCE UPON CCA'S.
I'M LIKE SOLAR AND WIND.
BE ABLE CANYON IS A RELIABLE
SUPPLY OF ESSENTIAL BASELOAD
POWER TAKING GAMBLE OFF LINE
WILL RESULT.
AND THE BURNING A MORE FOSSIL
FUELS TO MEET THAT NEED.
P. JENNY TESTIFIED THAT MUCH OF
THE REPLACEMENT POWER FOR D. CPP.
WOULD BE GENERATED BY
UNREGULATED COMMUNITY TRIES
AGGREGATORS.
BUT THERE IS NO WAY FOR CPUC TO
ENFORCE.
THAT THEY WOULD MEET THE
ENORMOUS CHALLENGE OF
CONSTRUCTING NEW GREENHOUSE GAS
RESOURCES TO REPLACE DIABLO.
ALSO SINCE CCA'S CANNOT BE
AUDITED THERE IS NO MECHANISM TO
VERIFY ANY CLAIM REGARDING THE
CONTENT OF THE POWER THE SELF.
FOR ALL THE FOREGOING REASONS
CGMP ASK THE COMMITTEE TO
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING THREE
AMENDMENTS.
WHAT?
IF BEIJING YOU TRULY BELIEVE
THAT STATEMENTS.
BUT THE APPLE CAN BE REPLACED
WITH GREENHOUSE GAS FREE POWER.
IT YOU HAVE NO ISSUE WITH
LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE THAT
REQUIRES
THE CPUC TO DETERMINE
CONCLUSIVELY.
THAT THIS CAN BE DONE.
BEFORE APPROVING THE RETIREMENT
OF THE APPLE THAT'S S. B. TEN
NINETY SHOULD BE AMENDED TO
REQUIRE THE CPT WITH TO WITH
HOLD ITS FINAL APPROVAL OF
DIABOLOS RETIREMENT.
UNTIL THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN WITH A
CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE
TO.
IF LIKE WITH THE SONGS
RETIREMENT GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS RISE IN CALIFORNIA.
THEN P. SHE ANY SHOULD PAY A
PENALTY AND COMMENT TO THE
PENALTIES PAID BY HAVING A
MATTERS.
S. B. TEN NINETY SHOULD BE
AMENDED TO REQUIRE SUCH A
PENALTY.
THREE
THE TAXPAYERS YOUR CONSTITUENTS
SHOULD NOT PAY FOR P. JENNY'S
DECISIONS P. GINNY RATEPAYERS
SHOULD.
THE BILL SHOULD BE AMENDED TO
REMOVE ANY STATE OBLIGATIONS TO
COVER THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
THE RETIREMENT OF DIABLO.
THINK ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION.
MANY OTHERS SPEAKERS IN
OPPOSITION WILL CO COME TO THE
COMMITTEE.
A THANK YOU RETIREMENT.
YOU KNOW JUST GENERALLY WHO
CURRENTLY OWNS.
DOUBLE CLICK KENYA FACILITY.
P. JEANNIE.
AND A WILL P. G. IN THE.
.
IN THE AGREEMENT IS THERE.
SOMEONE.
SOME.
AGREEMENT THE PGT WILL MAINTAIN
THIS FACILITY UNTIL.
AND I MEAN PART OF ITS
OBLIGATION AS PART OF ITS NRC
LICENSE
IT'S EVEN AFTER IT STOPS
OPERATIONS IT HAS A DUTY FOR
DECOMMISSIONING IN A SAFE.
MANNER AND EITHER
DECONTAMINATION OF THE PROPERTY
OR PROVIDING ONGOING SECURITY.
WHAT DOES HAPPEN DURING JUST
THIS PERIOD OF RAMPING DOWN?
PROPERTY ASSESSMENT IS REDUCED
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES
FOR OFFSETTING COMMUNITY IMPACTS
IS WHAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED EVEN
THOUGH THE PLANT CONTINUES TO
OPERATE.
FROM A.
PROPERTY VALUATION POINT OF VIEW.
PROPERTY VALUATION DECLINES
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND AND
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WAS FIGURED
INTO THIS EQUATION.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
THAT THE FUTURE OF THIS PROPERTY
IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE
AGREEMENT IS THERE SOME
OBLIGATION FOR P. GINNY.
NOT ONLY TO MAINTAIN TO
COMMISSION AND RESTORE.
VIABLE USE OF LAND A MEAN THAT
IS JUST GONNA BE AN EYESORE IN
THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT
HUNDRED YEARS IS GOING TO BE.
A I AM.
.
A SUPERFUND SITE FOR THE NEXT
HUNDRED YEARS I MEAN WHO WHO HAS
THE OBLIGATION.
TO CLEAN IT UP MAKING USE WILL
NEVER EVER BE USED AGAIN.
WELL OR POWER GENERATION WHICH
WE HAVE AN EXPERT HERE CAN
ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS
MISTER CHAIR. I DO KNOW THAT
WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY LICENSED
IT WAS THE ORIGINAL NRC
OPERATOR'S LICENSE.
WAS PREMISED
ON IN UNDERSTANDING THE SPENT
RODS WOULD BE REMOVED FROM. FROM.
THAT LOCALITY.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE IN
THERE'S NO. IN THERE'S NO
FORECAST OF A RECEPTACLE FOR THE
SPENT FUEL RODS SO INTEL THERE
IS.
P. GENIE WILL SHOULDER THE
BURDEN OF MAINTAINING THE SPENT
FUEL RODS SPACE THERE ON THE
COAST AT THE FACILITY IN A SAFE
AND SECURE MANNER BUT WITH YOUR
QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTRACT
LANGUAGE.
LET ME ASK.
YOU BILL MANNHEIM FOR
CHENEY.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING
THE PLAN FOR DECOMMISSIONING
DIABLO CANYON.
PART OF THAT PLAN WILL INCLUDE
THE USE OF THE SITE AFTER THAT
SITE IT'S IT'S BEEN CLEANED OUT.
WE'VE WE'VE CREATED A PUBLIC
STAKEHOLDER GROUP TO PARTICIPATE
IN THAT. AND THEN THERE WILL BE
THE FILING WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION.
THAT WILL BE FILED.
LATE.
THAT NEXT YEAR.
SO THEY'LL BE A VERY BROAD.
.
WHAT PARTICIPATION PROCESS
TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE USE OF
THE SITE?
I'M AND AND WITH RESPECT TO THAT
THE SPENT NUCLEAR FUEL THAT HAS.
THAT IS BEING STORED IN IN.
HUGE CONCRETE AND STAINLESS
STEEL CANISTERS OF THE PLAN.
THAT WILL REMAIN THERE UNTIL
THERE IS A FEDERAL REPOSITORY
FOR SPENT FUEL.
WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I'M TO TAKE GOT FUEL WITHOUT YOU
KNOW YUCCA MOUNTAIN.
ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS
HAVE BEEN STALLED SO WE SUED THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WE. WE
SETTLED THE GOVERNMENT IS NOW
PAYING THE COSTS
OF THAT FACILITY AND WILL
CONTINUE TO PAY THE COSTS OF
THAT FACILITY. ARMS UNTIL THERE
IS A. A FINAL SOLUTION FOR
STORAGE SO THEY'VE BEEN TRYING
TO SITE.
A REPOSITORY SINCE THE NINETEEN
SIXTY.
WITH NO.
PUT FUTURE SITE SO.
WEEK WE CAN LOOK AT THIS FROM
THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS DOES THAT
MEAN THAT THAT SITE WILL REMAIN
AS AS IS FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED
YEARS A MINUTE NOTHING EVER.
IF THERE WAS NEVER A SITE TO
REMOVE THAT NUCLEAR WASTE
THAT MEAN THAT THAT BECOMES A
SUPERFUND SITE IN OUR STATE.
I CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE IT'S
A NATIONAL PROBLEM AND I'M I'M
NOT TALKING TO THE MECHANICS OF
IT I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SAY
THIS WILL. BE SOLVED WHEN THERE
WON'T BUT IF IT ISN'T SOLVE MY
QUESTION IS VERY SPECIFIC.
WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT A
SUPER.
I MEAN CAN YOU ARE YOU CAN WITH
A PARK THERE COOPER HOUSING
THERE.
CAN WE.
.
PUT A.
THE WHAT WHAT WE PUT TERRIBLY A
BATTERY SITE THERE WOULD WELCOME
WE PUT THE THE ACTUAL SITES
STORAGE FACILITY WHICH IS ABOUT
THE SIZE OF
I FEEL.
WILL NEED TO BE SECURE.
BUT IT'S A HUGE SITE AND IT'S
POTENTIALLY POSSIBLE THAT OTHER
PARTS OF THE SITE COULD BE
RELEASED FOR FOR PUBLIC USE.
OUR THAT VERY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING
POTENTIALLY A INTERIM STORAGE AS
A AS A SOLUTION WERE FEW WOULD
BE MOVED THERE UNTIL THERE WAS.
A FINAL SOLUTION BUT THAT'S
STILL EARLY STAGES.
AND YOU COULD GO ON CONTINUE
PAIN.
TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY.
WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAS
NOW.
EVEN IF IT HAS.
OF A LESSER.
APPRAISAL YOU'RE STILL GOING TO
CONTINUE TO PAY TAXES AS LONG AS
YOU OWN PROPERTY.
YES BUT THE THE. THE THE.
HIGH VALUE OF THE FACILITY IS
THE POWER PLANT.
THE APPRAISED VALUE IS VERY
SMALL FOR THE SPENT FUEL STORAGE
FACILITY. SO WHILE THERE WILL
STILL CONTINUE TO BE A VERY
SMALL PROPERTY TAX BASE IT'S
IT'S A TINY PORTION OF WHAT'S
BEING PAID TO NAKED.
YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT THIS BILL.
AND AND. THIS IS A.
FIRST OF ALL CEREMONY AND I
COMMEND YOU FOR BEING JUST THE
CONSUMMATE ADVOCATE FOR YOUR
DISTRICT.
NO ONE IS BETTER.
AND.
.
LOTS A RESPECT FOR YOU WOULDN'T
AND IN YOUR WORK AND I I ONCE
FOR YOU TODAY.
HARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO
SUPPORT A BILL THAT WE CAN AMEND.
AND YOU HAVE NOT MADE YOURSELF
AVAILABLE TO AMENDMENTS OF THE
BILL.
AND IT MAKES A VERY DIFFICULT
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF
UNRESOLVED ISSUES.
AND I DON'T WANT TO ASSOCIATE
MYSELF WITH A PROJECT THAT WILL
BE A A PERMANENT FLIGHT.
ANA COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY SOME
SOMEWHERE IS BEAUTIFUL ASSEMBLY
SERVICE BOTH PLACES REALLY
MAGICAL.
IN CALIFORNIA'S LANDSCAPE AND
ESPECIALLY OUR COAST.
THIS IS OUR COASTLINE AND AND.
HAVING THIS PROJECT HERE.
CAME OF WITH LOTS OF PROMISES.
SOME WERE DELIVERED.
A YOU KNOW.
POWER THAT WAS.
VERY CHEAP.
AND DID NOT CONTAMINATE THE AIR.
BUT OTHERS THAT WERE NOT
DELIVERED THAT THIS WASTE WOULD
BE LOCATED SOMEWHERE.
IN A SAFE LOCATION THAT WHEN
IMPACT.
THE ENVIRONMENT PEOPLE'S HEALTH
AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN REALIZED
THAT IS SOMETHING.
THAT ONCE AGAIN AS WE AS WE DEAL
WITH ISSUES HERE LOCALLY.
SOMETHING THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO DELIVER
ON.
AND THAT THAT.
IS SOMETHING WE EXPECT MAY NOT
CHANGE.
AND IN AND. IN THE RECENT YEARS.
I WOULD LIKE THERE TO BE A
LITTLE.
MORE ACCOUNTABILITY WORKED INTO
THIS PLAN.
PLAN THAT.
PGD CONTINUE TO PAY.
INTO THE TAX BASE THERE WITH
THIS PROPERTY.
AS IS IT AS IF IT WERE OPERATING
WHICH WOULD GIVE AN INCENTIVE.
TO CHIU TO CLEAN IT UP TO REMOVE
IT.
AND THAT REPAIRS NOT HAVE TO BE
PART OF THAT.
IF IF THEY.
PJ NEEDS NEEDS AN INCENTIVE.
A CLEAN UP THAT THAT LOCATION
AND MOVE OUT OF THAT FACILITY
AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR A MORE
PRODUCTIVE YOU SEE YOU TALK
ABOUT HAVE WANTING TO INFLUENCE.
THE ECONOMY IN SAN LUIS OBISPO
ON THIS IS.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST
VALUABLE SITES TO DO THAT.
WATERFRONT LAND HERE IS ALWAYS
AT A PREMIUM CALIFORNIA.
BUT IT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD WORK
IN A BILL THAT WE CAN A MAN AND
AND FOR THAT REASON IN ON WHAT
I'M GONNA DO TODAY BECAUSE.
THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE
AND AND I I WANT TO GIVE YOU
THAT THE BILL WOULD WORK ON THAT.
THEN BECAUSE I RESPECT THAT YOU
WILL.
I WANNA I WANNA SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY TO GET OUT COMMITTEE.
BUT I I I RESERVE THE RIGHT.
NOT TO SUPPORT IT IN THE FLOOR.
BECAUSE I THINK WE.
WE CAN PUT TOGETHER BETTER DEAL
THAT THE EVERY TIME AN ALLEN
ANALYZE TO SPILL THE NUMBER IN
TERMS OF.
IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED REPAIRS IS
GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING
AND NOW IT'S WHICH REALLY AT
HALF OF.
HALF A BILLION DOLLARS ALMOST
YOU KNOW FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY
EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS TO TO
CLOSE DOWN THIS FACILITY BORNE
BY RATE PAYERS.
IT'S IT'S A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW
FOR ME.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH
ACCOUNTABILITY WORKED IN THIS
BILL.
TO ENSURE THAT ONE DAY THAT SITE
WILL BE CLEANED UP.
AND WILL BE RESTORED PRODUCTIVE
USE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
COMMUNITY WHETHER BE A PARK.
WITH THE IDEA OF.
WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OF SOME
SORTS WOULD CONTRIBUTE.
TO THE ECONOMY OF SAN LUIS
OBISPO WE NEED TO MAKE SAN LUIS
OBISPO SUSTAINABLE.
COMMUNITY KEEP THOSE SCHOOLS
OPEN KEEP THE PEOPLE WORKING.
AND FOR THAT I I WANT TO SUPPORT
YOU TODAY BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
WORK ON THIS BILL BECAUSE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH PILL TO
GET THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I
APPRECIATE THAT I APPRECIATE.
YOUR EXPERTISE SAN IN THAT OF
YOUR STAFF AND I APPRECIATE
THEIR ENGAGEMENT.* JUST
OFFER SHORT CLOSE TO HIT SOME OF
THE.
WHEN SOARED YOU HAVE MEMBERS
I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY
CLOSE YOU HAVE SUMMERS ARE OKAY
AS MUCH AS AND QUESTIONS MAKE
SOME COMMENTS THINK ANYONE
SENATOR HILL THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR AND AND AND I JUST.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
MISTER CHAIR I I AGREE WITH
THOSE I THINK THAT THERE ARE
OTHER OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THAT
MAY BE ABLE TO FLUSH THOSE OUT
OVER THE NEXT.
A MONTH OR SO BUT I DO THINK
THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK
AT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT.
THAT WE TAKE THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION AND THE RISK THAT.
THE COMMUNITY HAS.
LIVE WITH FOR IN IN THERE'S A
THERE'S A COST TO THAT RISK THAT
I MEAN THE COST.
TO THOSE WHO PRESENTED AT RISK
IF YOU LIVE WITHIN A RISK AND.
YOU BUY INSURANCE.
YOU PAY MORE FOR THE INSURANCE
SO IN THIS CASE THE COMMUNITY.
THE LARGER COMMUNITY THAT
BENEFITTED FROM THAT PLANT
SHOULD BE. SUBJECT TO HIGHER
COSTS AT THE END OF THE DAY TO
SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BASED ON
THAT RISK IF THEY HAD. AND FOR
REALLY THE SAFE RETIREMENT OF
THE PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITIES AYE
AYE AYE SUPPORTED TONIGHT. I
THINK WE JUST NEED TO FINE TUNE
IT TO A POINT WHERE IT WORKS.
FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT OF THAT I
THINK THE CONCEPT IS GREAT THANK.
AND I'M SURE I I'M GONNA UP ALL
OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE
CHAIRMAN I TO HAVE.
CONCERNS ON NOT NECESSARY FOR
YOUR EFFORTS HERE. MISTER MONEY
BUT OUR OVERALL APPROACH TO.
DECOMMISSIONING NUCLEAR
FACILITIES IN IT'S FAR DIFFERENT
THAN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD'S
BEST IN NORWAY WHERE I VISITED.
NUCLEAR PLANTS AND COMMUNITIES
LEARN EARLY FIGHT. THE HELP OF
STORAGE FACILITIES.
AT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE
THEY KNOW HOW IMPORTANT NUCLEAR
ENERGY IS STAYING THERE BACK
COMMUNITY AND THEY KNOW HOW
CLEAN. NUCLEAR IT ENERGY AS WE
CELEBS NUMBER THAT NUCLEAR
ENERGY IS DIRTY INSOFAR DISTINCT
FROM THE TRUTH.
WHAT'S OF DANGERS IS THE SPENT
RODS AFTERWARDS AND HOW DO WE
STORED SO I KNOW THAT IS OF
GREAT CONCERN TO ME AND.
THOSE RESIDENTS THERE AND
EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND I THINK.
WE REALLY DO NEED TO NAIL DOWN A
HOW WHAT WE DO WITH THESE.
SPENT RODS IN A HOTTER SAFELY
STORE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS MY
GREAT CONCERN BUT AT THE SAME
TIME.
ALL THE RATEPAYERS SHOULD NOT
THE POOR THAT COST.
INDEFINITELY AND I THINK WE DO
NEED TO HAVE
A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCISE A PLAN
ON HOW WE.
CLEAN UP THAT AREA AND OUT MOVE
FORZA MOTORSPORT TODAY BUT I.
WILL HELP SUPPORT YOU IN ANY WAY
MOVING FOR.
SENATOR THANK YOU I APPRECIATE
YOU COMING TO MY OFFICE AND
SPEAKING WITH ME ABOUT THIS BILL-AND. I LIKE THE AUTHOR BUT IT'S
GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BE
THERE AS I MENTIONED TO YOU JUST.
I HATE TO SEE THE RATE PAYERS
HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT PASSED ON SO.
ON JUST ONE ASSURE THAT BUT I
SURE APPRECIATE. HOW HARD YOU
WORKED ON THIS AND?
?
CLEARLY COMMUNICATING WITH ME
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION WANT TO MAKE A
CLOSING STATEMENT THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR.
AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR
AND IN YOUR STAFF AND FOR ALL
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR.
THE TIME YOU'VE SPENT MEETING
WITH MAN AND WITH OTHER
ADVOCATES.
REAL BRIEFLY.
.
ONE THING THIS BILL ISN'T IS TO
DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT.
DIABLO SHOULD CONTINUE OPERATING
SOME PEOPLE WERE MAKING THAT
ARGUMENT I RESPECT THEIR PASSION
THEIR KNOWLEDGE THEIR. COMMAND
OF SCIENCE THAT DECISION HAS
BEEN MADE THE PLANT IS SET TO
CLOSE.
NICK TWENTY TWENTY FOUR TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE.
STAKEHOLDERS NEGOTIATED IN
ANTICIPATION OF IMMEDIATE
IMPACTS EVEN WHILE THE PLANT
STILL OPERATES FOR THE NEXT
SEVEN YEARS FOR THE PROPERTY
VALUE IS DECREASED.
.
A COMPONENT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT
PIECE.
WE HEARD FROM THAT OF THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS
CITIES IN THE COUNTY THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT'S ALL LOOKING AT
TRANSITION SUPPORT. NOT ULTIMATE
SOLUTIONS.
BUT THEY LOOK AT THAT
TRANSITION SUPPORT
AS HAVING NOT ONLY HOSTED THE
RISK
BUT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO
SHOULDER THE RISK AND THEY KNOW
THEY HAVE TO DIVERSIFY. THEIR
ECONOMIC DEPENDENCE.
THE QUESTION THE REALLY CORE
ISSUE THAT'S BEEN RAISED BY MANY
INCLUDING TURN. IS THIS AN
APPROPRIATE COST TO ASK
RATEPAYERS TO PAY.
AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES AND
THE REASON I MEAN. I'M THE FIRST
IN ARE AMONG MANY IN THIS
LEGISLATURE WHO'VE WHO FIGHT TO
PROTECT RATE PAYERS.
IN THIS INSTANCE
THE RATE PAYERS SWITCHES
P. JEANNIE FOOTPRINT IT'S NOT
TAXPAYERS OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ITS RATEPAYERS WHO
RECEIVE ENERGY TODAY TEN NIGHT.
FRUMPY JEANNIE AND THEIR
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA THERE IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY THERE ON THE
CENTRAL COAST.
THOSE RATE PAYERS HAVE BEEN
RECEIVING ENERGY TEN PERCENT OF
THE STATE GRID TWENTY PERCENT.
THE P. JEANNIE PRODUCTION OF
REPEATING THE CUSTOMERS HAS COME
FROM DIABLO CANYON SO FOR THIRTY
FOUR YEARS THEY'VE ENJOYED THAT
WHILE MANY HAVEN'T SHOULDERED
THE IMMEDIATE RISK THAT
RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SAN LUIS
OBISPO COUNTY. THEY'LL CONTINUE
TO RECEIVE THAT ENERGY ENERGY
PRODUCTION DURING THE PERIOD OF
THIS RATE.
PAYER ASSESSMENT WHICH WHILE
ADDS UP TO A LOT OF DOLLARS I
WOULD SUBMIT IS TO MINIMUS.
EIGHTEEN CENTS AVERAGE PER RATE
PAYER PER MONTH NOT IN
PERPETUITY. BUT FOR SEVEN YEARS
UNTIL THE DECOMMISSIONING OF THE
PLAN. AND THEN THE FINAL POINT
THE DECOMMISSIONING.
FUTURE USE OF THAT PROPERTY
PEACHY ANY HINT JUST WALK AWAY
UNDER THEIR NRC LICENSING.
THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO LEAVE
THAT FACILITY CLEAN TO REMOVE
HAZARDS ARE AND TO PROTECT THE
PUBLIC HEALTH IN SECURITY AND
FINALLY. THE LINKAGE OF THIS
BILL AND WHY ARE WE NOW USING
LEGISLATION.
P. YOU SEE REVIEW OF THE
STAKEHOLDER AGREEMENT.
IF YOU SEE SAID WE NEED
LEGISLATION WE DON'T BELIEVE WE
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE.
THE COMMUNITY IMPACTS P..
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THE P. YOU
SEE SOME OF THE MEMBERS SAID WE
THINK IT'S A FAIR NEGOTIATED
AGREEMENT UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T
BELIEVE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
APPROVE IT. IN ALL OF ITS
ELEMENTS
SO WITH THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
LINK COMMUNITY SAFETY.
PREDICTABILITY.
CONVERSION TO RELIABLE SAFE
ENERGY.
IN THE LAST TO DECOMMISSIONING A
NUCLEAR FACILITY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA SO CONCERNS OF THIS
SETTING SOME KIND OF PRECEDENT.
FRIENDS THIS IS THE LAST NUCLEAR
FACILITY.
IN OPERATION IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
THE FUTURE MIGHT BRING WITH
ENERGY NEEDS WE KNOW WE'RE DOING
A GOOD JOB WITH THEIR NOBLE. BUT
AGAIN I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
INDULGENCE
AND THE ENCOURAGE AN AYE VOTE
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A. MOTION.
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
IF PASSED SEVERAL QUALITY
COMMITTEE WAS SO I WAS SO AYE
MORALE. MORALE NO BRADFORD
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA. CANNELLA
AYE HERTZBERG AYE. HERTZBERG AYE
HILL. HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER
STERN STERN AYE BIDAK AYE BIDAK
AYE WIENER.
THE.
IT THE BILL AS SOMEONE HAS
ENOUGH TO GET OUT WITH A LITTLE
CALL FOR ACTION MEMBERS.
SENATOR ANDERSON.
S. B. ELEVEN SIXTY NINTH. TO
MISTER CHAIRMAN THIS HAS SUPPORT
I THINK ON BOTH SIDES AND NO
OPPOSITION IF THE AUTHOR TAKES
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'D LIKE
TO MOVE THE BILL.
RIGHT A CLOSE.
THROTTLE.
TALK.
OKAY OUT START YOUR PRESENTATION
TELLS WHAT THE BILL DOES.
OKAY. THANK YOU ARE MISTER CHAIR
YEAH THREE MEMBERS.
SO ARE.
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN LEGISLATOR.
.
WE'VE HAD DEVASTATING FIRES NOT
JUST IN THE SOUTH BUT IN THE
NORTH AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AND WE KNOW THAT OUT WHEN THESE
FIRES OCCUR. FREQUENTLY.
PUBLIC UTILITIES ARE FARMING TO
FOR THE START OF THE FIRES IN
THAT MONEY.
GOES TO OUR GENERAL FUND THIS
BILL SIMPLY RECOGNIZES THAT THAT
MONEY ORIGINATED.
IN THE RATE PAYERS POCKETS.
IN IT ALLOWS UP TO TEN PERCENT
TO REMAIN IN THAT DISTRICT FOR
THE FIRE OCCURRED.
IN THE OUT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK
SPENT.
TO HARDEN PEOPLE'S HOMES TO TO
IMPROVE OUR FIRE SAFETY YOU
WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ARGUE WITH
WOOD CHIPPING SERVICE AS
PREDICTED ALSO.
BE USED BASED ON THE COMMUNITY.
TO CLEAR.
DEAD WEEDS SO.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AS INSTEAD OF
JUST BRING THE MONEY IN THE
GENERAL FUND THAT BECAUSE THIS
IS MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T
ANTICIPATE?
IT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITIES TO
RECEIVE SOME BENEFIT WE'RE NEVER
GONNA STOP ALL FIRES BECAUSE WE
HAVE LIGHTNING STRIKES.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS MITIGATE
THE HARM IN INSTEAD OF.
.
HAVING A HUGE DISASTER.
WE CAN HAS SIMPLY HAVE A A BAD
FIRE IS SUPPOSED TO.
ALL THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES
THAT WERE LOST IN LAST YEAR.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE WHAT
THE BILL DOES. I'M WORKING
CLOSELY WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE I WAS HOPING THAT.
THE GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE SOME
BUT.
BUT THINGS HAVE BEEN MOVING SO
QUICKLY THEY HAVING A CHANCE TO
GIVE US BACK WHAT THEY WOULD
LIKE TO SEE IN THE BILL. I TRY
TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE OR
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S HELP AND I'M GOING
TO TAKE. AYE ANY OF THE
AMENDMENTS ALL VEHEMENCE IN FACT.
.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE A REAL
OPPORTUNITY.
TOOK TURNOUT FOR THOSE
COMMUNITIES THAT.
HAVE.
TAKEN THE BRUNT. OF ALL THE
FIRES MOVING FORWARD THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY ANYBODY IN THE
PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS
BILL ANYONE.
OKAY A WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION OF
SPORT.
DO HAVE THEM WE HAVE A MOTION.
CLICK THIS KALRA.
PASSED WITH AMENDMENTS.
DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS WESO ARE SO AYE
MORALE AYE MORRELL AYE CANNELLA.
AYE BRADFORD.
HERTZBERG BY HERTZBERG AYE HILL.
HILL AYE MCGUIRE.
SKINNER.
STERN. STERN AYE VITA Y. MIGHT
ACT AYE WIENER.
OKAY.
PHIL YOU HAVE LIKE SEVEN HUNDRED
BILLS IN RETURN.
SO A MILE SET THEN ELSA MISTER
CHAIR IF I HAD KNOWN THE DAY YOU
RAN SUCH AN EFFICIENT COMMITTEE
OUR HELLO MORE ENERGY BILLS.
THANK YOU.
BUT PRINCIPLE. BIG SELLERS WHO
WORK WILL MAKE MORE GLOBAL.
WHICH RUNNING A START WITH.
OKAY LAWS THAT.
IF YOU WERE TO CHAIR CREATED.
S. B. EIGHT NINETEEN INSURERS
CALIFORNIA RATEPAYERS DON'T PAY
FOR UTILITIES NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOR.
BILL ACHIEVES THIS SIMPLY BY
CODIFYING P. USUALLY PRACTICE.
AND DATING THE FINES PENALTIES
OR UNINSURED EXPENSES RESULTING
FROM NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOR ARE NOT
RECOVERABLE IN RAGE.
WHO PAYS FOR DAMAGES SHOULD BE
BASED ON A UTILITIES CONDUCT?
THE P. UC DETERMINES THEY ACTED
REASONABLY RATEPAYERS WILL COVER
THE COSTS.
BUT IF THE P. USUALLY DETERMINES
THE UTILITY ACTED UNREASONABLY
OR IMPRUDENTLY RATEPAYERS SHOULD
NOT PAY.
THIS IS A CENTRAL AND
FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF THE
COMMISSION.
BUT LET ME BE CRYSTAL CLEAR
ABOUT WHAT THIS MEASURE IS NOT
IT IS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE
SOLUTION TO THE UTILITIES
WORRIES.
THE CONSUMER PROTECTIONS
CODIFIED IN S. B. EIGHT NINETEEN
OR ONE PIECE OF A LARGER PUZZLE.
EIGHT NINETEEN PROTECTS
RATEPAYERS IN THE EVENT OF A
UTILITIES NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOR
THAT IS IT. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS
DAMAGES FROM CLIMATE CHANGE
EVENTS NATURAL DISASTERS SUCH AS
EARTHQUAKES TSUNAMIS AND
HURRICANES ARE OUTSIDE OF THE
UTILITIES CONTROL.
I HAVE LONG ADVOCATED FOR SAFETY
PRIORITIZATION AND UNDERSTANDING
THE ROOT CAUSE OF ISSUES.
IN ORDER TO WITHSTAND DISASTER
AND WILL CONTINUE TO CHAMPION
SUCH EFFORTS TODAY. BUT IN THE
MIDST OF THIS LARGER
CONVERSATION LET'S TAKE CARE OF
THE THINGS WE CAN CONTROL. WHEN
A UTILITY DOES NOT ACT.
IS NOT ADEQUATELY MANAGE INVEST
IN OR OPERATE ITS INFRASTRUCTURE
RATEPAYERS SHOULD NOT BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF THAT
IMPRUDENCE.
IT'S NOT CONFLATE THIS WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE RISKS IN S. B.
EIGHT NINETEEN DOES NOT ADDRESS
A COURTS APPLICATION OF STRICT
LIABILITY OR A UTILITY STOCK
PERFORMANCE.
EVERYONE HAS BEEN SEEKING
SOLUTIONS TO THE DAMAGES CAUSED
BY LAST FALL'S FIRES AND MUD
SLIDES.
I MEAN NO ONE DESIRE SUCH
ILLUSIONS MORE THAN SENATORS
MCGUIRE AND DIED BY CO AUTHORS
ON THIS MEASURE.
BUT THOSE ARE RIFIC EVENTS
CREATED HUGE LIABILITIES THAT
ALL CALIFORNIANS MUST FACE
SOME MORE IMMEDIATELY AND
PERSONALLY THAN OTHERS.
THESE COSTS ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PAY AND I
DON'T WANT THE CENTRAL TENET OF
THIS BILL TO GET LOST IN THAT
CONVERSATION.
THAT NGUYEN DAMAGES ARISE FROM A
UTILITIES NEGLIGENCE THE UTILITY
SHOULD ABSOLUTELY PAY THOSE
COSTS.
VOTING FOR THIS MEASURE IS NOT
VOTING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND
RATE PAYER PROTECTION.
SIMPLY BOATING FOR WHAT'S RIGHT
AND WHAT'S FAIR IN TERMS OF
UTILITY.
USAGE AND ACTIVITIES.
HOW TO HAVE A WITNESS EDGES OR
BEFORE YOU GO MISTER CHAIRMAN
SAYS SPORTS WERE NO OPPOSITION
ELECT OF THE BILL?
LIKE THAT.
IF I.
PENNY I.
BUT IN SUPPORT OF AB.
OPPOSITION.
TURN IT IN SUPPORT.
WELL WE DIDN'T DID SCOTT WHAT
YOU HAVE TO CALIFORNIA COALITION
OF UTILITY EMPLOYEES THE STATE
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS.
NET WITH MISTER HILL THE OTHER
DAY BECAUSE A PORTION OF THIS
BILL WE THINK.
WORKS WELL WITH THE BILLION
PASSED OUT EARLIER SP TEN EIGHTY
EIGHT.
THE PROVISION THAT WE HAVE
HARPER AND OVER IS THE PROVISION
THAT SAYS ONCE THE. P. YOU SEE
SAFETY AND ENFORCEMENT DIVISION.
MAKES A DETERMINATION THAT THE.
DAMAGES WERE CAUSED BY AN
ELECTRICAL CORPORATION OR ITS
AGENT.
WHICH COULD BE MY.
EMPLOYEES MIGHT MY WORKERS.
DID THAT FINDING IS NOT
ADMISSIBLE IN A COURT OF LAW.
SO THEY MAKE A FINDING THAT FOR
INSTANCE A UTILITY IN FACT.
WAS.
ARE AT FAULT IN CAUSING THE
DAMAGE.
WHY WITH THIS COMMITTEE NOT WANT
A COURT OF LAW TO WEIGH THAT?
WE BRING ACTIONS AGAINST A
COMPANY'S ALL THE TIME I HAVE
THERE'S AT LEAST THREE WRONGFUL
DEATH SUITS RIGHT NOW WHERE
MEMBERS OF MINE LOST THEIR LIVES.
WHERE THEY WERE SAFETY
DETERMINATIONS MADE BY THE P.
YOU SEE AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO
DENY THOSE FAMILIES THE ABILITY
TO BRING THAT EVIDENCE?
OF A DETERMINATION BY THE
COMMISSION TO ACCORD WHY WOULD
YOU NOT WANT A COURT TO WAY THAT
I IT'S FUNNY INEXPLICABLE TO ME.
.
ON THE OTHER END.
IT SAYS
CORPORATE A AYE YOU OR AN AGENT.
WELL.
YOU KNOW WE.
A REPRESENT WORKERS FOR
CONTRACTORS WORK TO THE P. YOU
SEE AND THEY CAN BE NAMED IN.
IN TORTS.
AND.
WHY WOULDN'T THEY WANT A A
DETERMINATION BY THE COMMISSION
THAT PERHAPS EXONERATES THEIR
ACTIVITY AS AN EMPLOYEE FOR A
CONTRACTOR? TO BE ADMISSIBLE IN
A COURT OF LAW SO I JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHY THE PROVISIONS IN
THE BILL AND SO UNFORTUNATELY.
WELL WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE.
MAIN PORTION OF THE BILL RUN
COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PORTIONS
OF.
ANYBODY ELSE OPPOSITE.
BILL MAN I'M FOR
WE NEED WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A.
THE BILL BUT WE.
THE LETTER OF CONCERN AND THEIR.
FLY ON THE BILL WOULD LIKE.
SO AS AMENDED
THE BILL IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIVE
TO THE QUESTION FALL. ON IN THAT SENSE IT'S A
IT'S A IT'S A HOPEFUL BILL AND I
THINK IT GIVES THE COMMISSION
WHAT IT NEEDS.
THERE IS ONE WORDING FLAW THOUGH
THAT WE WISH TO CALL TO ON. THE
CHAIRS
ATTENTION AND THAT IS THAT THE
FIRST ARE.
SENTENCE IN SECTION SEVEN FORTY
EIGHT EIGHT TWO.
APPEARS TO REQUIRE I
DISALLOWANCE OF IT ON IT
UNINSURED EXPENSE IN ALL CASES
WHERE THE UTILITY PLANT WAS NOT
RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED. EVEN IF IT
DOESN'T RELATE.
I IF THAT'LL MISSION DOESN'T
RELATE TO THE DAMAGE THAT WAS
CAUSED
SO FOR EXAMPLE OF PGD FAILED.
BUT IF A TREE WAS BLOWN BY A
NINETY MILE AN HOUR WIND INTO A
LINE AND I STARTED A FIRE.
THAT VIOLATION WAS NOT WOULD NOT
BE THE PROXIMATE CAUSE OF THE
DAMAGE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
WIND BLOWING THE TRIO FOR. THIS
BILL WOULD APPEAR TO REQUIRE THE
COMMISSION.
JUST ALLOW COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT EVEN IF THERE WAS NO
PROXIMATE CAUSE.
BETWEEN THE UNREASONABLE ACT AND
OF THE DAMAGE SO WE WOULD IN OUR
LETTER WE PROPOSE SOME SIMPLE
WORDING THAT WOULD AFFECT
PROXIMATE CAUSE. ON NOTION AND I
THINK THAT THAT WOULD HELP PLUG.
A GAP AND GIVE THE COMMISSION
THE DISCRETION TO LOOK AT THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH OF THAT
AND MAKE ITS RULING WILL BE
HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT THEY CAN
THANK YOU FOR IT.
I AM I AM UNTIE I AM HERE TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT A JUST A VERY
QUICK MARK TONY FROM TURN. AND
THAT IS THAT WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY
IN THROUGH THE ETHICALLY.
PORT THIS BILL.
THE PRINCIPLE THAT THE RATE
CHARGED BY PUBLIC UTILITIES MUST
BE REASONABLE.
AND THAT COSTS THAT ARE INCURRED
DUE TO UNREASONABLE NEGLIGENT OR
IMPRUDENT UTILITY BEHAVIOR ARE
NOT TO BE RECOVERED IN RATES. WE
ALSO SUPPORT.
ANY AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES THAT
THE AUTHOR MAY WISH TO MAKE TO.
MODIFY THE BILL TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THEIR CONCERNS HERE SO WE'RE
VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL.
THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE
MEMBERS.
OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE CLIP THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR YEAH YES IT AND I'M
HAPPY TO THANK YOU MISTER TONE.
REFER TO.
FOR YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR
COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK OF THE
ISSUES RAISED BY THE OPPOSITION
AND OR NOT BY THE OFFICE BY THAT.
THE.
THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE OTHER
SPEAKERS IN MISTER WHICH WILL
LOOK AT THOSE IN.
AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SEE
HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE TO MAKE
SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR IN THAT IN
THE LEGISLATION THAT WILL ALLOW.
THE IF PROPERTY PROPER
INAPPROPRIATE APPLICATION OF THE.
OF THE LAW AND TO TO THOSE WHO
ARE ARE NEGLIGENT AND AFFECTED
IN THAT THEY HAVE THE RECOURSE
IT'S NECESSARY AT THE END OF THE
DAY HAVE RESPECT WE HAVE FOR
LIBEL MEMBERS THANK YOU. QUE I'D.
THINK WE HAD A MOTION FOR
SENATOR CANNELLA.
TERRY WHICH LIKE TAKE THE ROLE.
DO YOU PASS TO THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE WESO.
MORRELL AYE MORRELL AYE BRADFORD.
CANNELLA.
CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG HILL AYE
HILL AYE MCGUIRE SKINNER STERN.
VITA. BY THAT GUY WIENER.
NO BRADFORD AYE.
HOW MAY I?
ZERO WILLIE BROWN TWELVE
FIVE ZERO AND WILL LEAVE THE
BILL ON COSTS.
THANK OUT S. B. TEN TWENTY EIGHT
STRUCTURE.
THIS BUDGET TWENTY EIGHT
INSURERS ANY RECENT FEDERAL TAX
SAVINGS PRIVATELY OWNED
UTILITIES RECEIVE ARE PASSED ON
TO RATE PAYERS UNDER THE RECENT
CHANGES IN FEDERAL LAW.
UTILITIES ARE EXPECTED TO
RECEIVE A LOWER TAXES AND THUS
INCREASE PROFITS.
UTILITIES FILE STATE AND FEDERAL
TAXES LIKE ANY CORPORATION BUT
UTILITIES TAX BURDEN IS COVERED
BY THE RATE PAYERS. THEIR TAXES
ARE ONE FACTOR IN HOW MUCH
UTILITY CAN CHARGE CUSTOMERS IN
RATES THAT'S ANY SAVINGS FROM
FEDERAL TAXES GIVEN TO THE
UTILITY SHOULD BE RETURNED TO
THE RATE PAYERS.
THROUGHOUT THE LAST FEW MONTHS
THE P. UC HAS BEEN CALLING ON
MANY UTILITIES TO NOTE ANY
FEDERAL TAX SAVINGS IN A MEMBER
IN MEMORANDUM ACCOUNT. HOWEVER
SOME UTILITIES HAVE BEGUN TO
ARGUE THAT ANY SAVINGS SHOULD BE
REINVESTED IN UTILITY
INFRASTRUCTURE DISASTER
PREVENTION OR OTHER COST
WELL THE FUTILITY GOES OR
ADMIRABLE. RATEPAYERS ALREADY
PAY FOR MANY OF THESE COST ANY
JUSTIFIABLE INCREASE TO THESE
INVESTMENTS
SHOULD BE DECIDED AND APPROVED
BY THE P. UC DURING THEIR NORMAL
GRC PROCESS.
NOT AS A RESULT OF THE TAX
SAVINGS COLLEAGUES AS WE TEN
TWENTY EIGHT PROVIDES CLEAR
DIRECTION TO THE P. YOU SEE THAT
ANY CHANGES TO UTILITES TAXES
SHALL BE ADJUSTED FOR IN RATES
IN THIS IS WE KNOW APPLIES TO
ALL UTILITIES WATER GAS ELECTRIC.
AND TELEPHONE UTILITIES AS WELL.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
I'M MATH MARKETS WITH THE OFF
SERIE PARA HAVE GETS.
PLEASED TO SUPPORT THIS BILL
THIS BILL WOULD HELP LOWER
CUSTOMER BILLS.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE PAUL GIVES ALL OF US
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF LAKEWOOD THIS IS A GOOD BILLS
RIGHT THING TO DO WE LIKE TO
THINK THE SENATOR FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP AND WE ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. YOUR AYE VOTE.
MARK TONY TURN WE SUPPORT ANY
BILL THAT REDUCES GREAT PAIR
.
YES ROBERT MEMBERS THANK YOU
PLEASE WE HAVE A MOTION.
THE BILL.
WE AND KNOWN IMMENSE.
THAT'S SOME.
EIGHT.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL DAVE
HAS TO APPROPRIATIONS WESO.
I MEAN WESO AYE MORALE AYE
MORRELL AYE BRADFORD.
CANNELLA A CANNELLA AYE
HERTZBERG AYE HILL AYE HILL AYE
MCGUIRE SKINNER STERN.
BY DAK.
WAY BACK AYE WIENER.
BRADFORD I.
NO SIX ZERO. AND WILL HOLD THE
ROLE OF CONTRAPTION MEMBERS.
IF YOU MISTER CHAIR I MOVED SB
THIRTEEN SEVENTY SIX.
THIS BILL ENSURES THAT
CALIFORNIA'S DISABLED CITIZENS
HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK COMPANIES SERVICES.
I WANT TO BEGIN BY NOTING THAT
TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION ALMOST
ALWAYS TRANSFORMS AND OFTEN
BENEFITS THE DISABLED COMMUNITY.
THIS IS BEEN TRUE OF THE TNC
EASE WHICH HAVE MADE PROGRESS IN
PROVIDING ACCESS TO DEATH BEEN
BLIND PERSONS AS WELL AS ELDERLY
NEEDING EXTRA ASSISTANCE.
THE WHEELCHAIR USERS ESPECIALLY
NON FOLDING MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIR
USERS HAVE NOTED A CLEAR LACK OF
ACCESS TO THE SERVICES TNC
PROVIDE.
MANY LOCALITIES LIKE SEATTLE AND
CHICAGO HAVE ADDRESS THIS
DISPARITY. BUT ASSESSMENT BY
ASSESSMENT OF SURCHARGE ON TNC
USED TO HELP PAY FOR DISABLED
TRANSIT OPERATIONS IN OPTIONS.
HOWEVER T. CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF
A FEW STATES TO REGULATE TNC
HE'S STATEWIDE. THUS THE
SOLUTION TO TNC DISABLED ACCESS
UNAVAILABILITY IN CALIFORNIA
WILL REQUIRE STATEWIDE
COORDINATION.
S. B. THIRTEEN SEVENTY SIX
MANDATES THE UC.
DEVELOP REGULATIONS FOR TNC
ACCESSIBILITY FOR PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES
MOREOVER THIS BILL MANDATES THAT
IS PART OF THE REGULATORY
DEVELOPMENT.
A FEW SEE ENGAGE IN WORKSHOPS
WITH CALIFORNIA CITIES COUNTIES
AND PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN
ORDER TO EVALUATE COMMUNITY NEED
AND TO DEVELOP BEST SOLUTIONS.
FOR ADDRESSING THIS INEQUITY
COLLEAGUES DISABILITY ACCESS TO
TNC THESE SHOULD BE OF THE
HIGHEST PRIORITY. IN EQUITY
ISSUE BOTH THE P. UC AND I THINK
THE LEGISLATURE CANNOT IGNORE I
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE MEMBERS THINK
YOU.
THANK YOU.
.
ANYBODY IN SUPPORT.
WERE IN OPPOSITION.
ANY SPEAKERS.
WELL WHAT WE GOT WE GOT A
SPEAKER.
THAT LEVEL THAT CLUB THE SCENE
ON BEHALF OF UBER I WOULD HAVE A
POSITION ON THE BILL WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE CENTER TAKING ON
THIS.
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
WITH THAT'S REALLY GREAT
CONVERSATIONS WITH HIS OFFICE
AND WE LOOK FOR HAVING MORE
THANK YOU.
IF IF I COULD ADD WAS RICHARD
AND WE ARE I APPRECIATE WORKING
WITH THE TNC IS ON THIS ISSUE
BECAUSE THEY THEY WANT TO DO.
THE RIGHT THING THEY WANT TO
CREATE THE ACCESSIBILITY IT'S
IT'S A MATTER HOW WE CAN GET IT
DONE AND HOW TO WORK IT WITHIN
THE PLATFORMS AT THE USE OF
THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND
SUPPORTIVE. LAST YEAR I DON'T
AND I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DO YOU PASSAGE TRANSPORTATION
HOUSING COMMITTEE WESO BY HUESO
AYE MORALE AYE MORRELL AYE
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA. CANNELLA
AYE HERTZBERG.
HILL AYE HILL AYE MCGUIRE
SKINNER STERN. BY THAT. MY NECK
I A WIENER.
RICHARD THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOUNG.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER.
DO WE HAVE STERN OR SKINNER
HERE.
JUST ME OKAY.
STERN CLEMENTINA.
WHERE MOROCCO?
ALRIGHT NEXT UP THE SP FOURTEEN
FORTY FOUR CHAIRMAN HUESO
.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS.
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE
WE PASS GROUND GROUND BREAKING
LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS CLIMATE
CHANGE AND TO REDUCE.
THE MISSION.
OF OF DANGEROUS GREENHOUSE GASES
AND SHORT LIVED CLIMATE
POLLUTANTS.
TODAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
FURTHER.
ADVANCE THE STATE'S METHANE
EMISSIONS REDUCTION GOALS
TABLETS BY S. B. THIRTEEN EIGHTY
THREE.
IN TWENTY SIXTEEN WHILE
DISPLACING FOSSIL FUELS IN THE
NATURAL GAS PIPELINE.
AS CALIFORNIA MOVES MORE
AGGRESSIVELY TOWARD MEETING OUR
TARGETS FOR GHG EMISSIONS.
IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
THAT WE DEPLOY A BALANCED MIX OF
STRATEGIES TO SPUR INNOVATION IN
THE ENERGY SECTOR.
ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA'S TWENTY
SEVENTEEN CLIMATE CHANGE SCOPING
PLAN REPLACE INFO ALSO FEELS
WILL BUY A MATH AND BET METHANE.
AND MAKING IT COST
EFFECTIVELY ACCESSIBLE.
IT CAN HELP US REDUCE SHORT
LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS REDUCE
DEMAND FOR NATURAL GAS AND
ULTIMATELY HELP US MEET OUR
TWENTY THIRTY CLIMATE TARGETS.
GIVEN THE ENORMOUS YOUR JOURNEY
AHEAD IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
THE CALIFORNIA SUN THE NECESSARY
SIGNALS TO JUMP START THIS NEW
MARKET FOR BIO METHANE.
IT'S FRANKLY RACE TO CALIFORNIA
AS A GLOBAL LEADER IN CLIMATE
POP CHANGE POLICY.
CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO POSTPONE.
S. B. FOURTEEN FORTY BALANCES
THE NEED TO PROVIDE MARKET
CERTAINLY FOR PROJECT INVESTMENT
AND DEVELOPMENT.
WHILE FURTHERING OUR CLIMATE
CHANGE GOALS.
AND ALSO TAKING THE NECESSARY
STEPS STEPS TO DISPLAY SOME OF
THE STATE'S.
FOSSIL NATURAL GAS DEMAND.
WILL THE CLEANER ALTERNATIVE S.
B. FORTY FORTY RECOGNIZES THE
NEED FOR THERE ARE STATES.
SHORT LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS
GOALS
STRIKES A BALANCE BALANCE WITH
THE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE
NECESSARY MARKET FOR. BIO
METHANE PRODUCTION IN THE STATE.
IT ESTABLISHES.
A MODEST BIO MY THEME PROGRAM
PROCUREMENT PROGRAM FOR GAS
CORPORATIONS.
COLLECTIVELY PROCURE THIRTY TO
BUILD BILLION CUBIC FEET OF BIO
METHANE WHICH AMOUNTS TO ABOUT
FIVE PERCENT OF STATEWIDE COURT
GAS DELIVERIES.
ALL THIS WHILE REQUIRING THAT
UTILITIES ENTERING CUT INTO
CONTRACTS TO MEET THE GOALS OF
THE PROGRAM.
THEY'RE BY SENDING THE NECESSARY
MARKET SIGNALS FOR PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS BILL SEEKS.
FURTHER OUR STATES YEAR EIGHT.
GHG EMISSIONS BY EXPLICIT.
BLESSEDLY REQUIREMENT.
THAT PROCUREMENT TOWARD THE
SCHOOL REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES
A SHORT LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS
AND THEY COME FROM SOURCES THAT.
HAVE A FIRST POINT OF
INTERCONNECTION WITH THE
PIPELINE SYSTEM
IN CALIFORNIA. IT REQUIRES AT
THE CPUC.
ALLOCATE.
TO EACH GAS CORPORATION A
PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE CREEK
PROGRAM SCHOOL. FAITH BASED ON
THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES JERRY.
WOULD BE A ALLOCATED SIX BILLING
COULD CUBA FEET.
DIVERT ORGANIC WASTE TWELVE
BILLION SECURE
FEET.
FOOD PROCESSING WHICH UP TO TWO
BILLION CUBIC FEET LANDFILLS
WOULD GET SIX BILLION CUBIC FEET
AND ANY FEEDSTOCK SOURCES IN
CALIFORNIA SIX BILLION CUBIC
FEET
IN TWENTY FIFTEEN METHANE
CONTRIBUTED TO ABOUT NINE
PERCENT OF CALIFORNIA'S GHG
EMISSIONS.
A MAJORITY OF THESE EMISSIONS
CAME FROM RENEWABLE RESOURCES
SUCH AS LANDFILLS ORGANIC WASTE.
LA LIVESTOCK MANURE AND
WASTEWATER.
THESE ARE EMISSIONS THERE ARE
CRANE RIGHT NOW AND ARE BEING
ADMITTED AND NEGATIVELY
IMPACTING THE HEALTH OF SOME OF
OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.
ACCORDING TO THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD.
TO HONOR SEVENTEEN SHORT SHORT.
SHORT LIVED.
A TWENTY SEVENTEEN SHORT LIVED
COMIC BOOK CLIMATE POLLUTANT
STRATEGY.
IMPORTANT OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH
AND ECONOMICS.
MAYBE THE MOST.
BUT MAY MEET MOST REALIZE AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES BY
PRIORITIZING.
PIPELINE EACH INJECTION OF
RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
WE'VE ALL HEARD THE NEGATIVE
IMPACTS OF EXPOSURE TO AIR
POLLUTION
YEAR ROUND.
EXPOSURE TO AIR POLLUTION SUCH
AS MEANT METHANE A PARTICULAR
POLLUTION
HAS BEEN LINKED TO HIGHER RATES
OF CANCER AND HEART ATTACKS.
INCREASED HOSPITALIZATIONS AND
AZMAN TAX.
AND AN INCREASE.
RISK OF DEATH
IN CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE.
AS THE CENTER REPRESENTING THE
ONE OF THOSE AREAS WITH THE
HIGHEST RATES OF AIR POLLUTION
HIGHEST RATES OF EMERGENCY
HOSPITALIZATIONS AS RESULT OF
ASTHMA.
I KNOW THERE ARE COMMUNITIES
CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT ANY LONGER.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL HUMAN COST OF
NOT ACTING NOW IS SIGNIFICANT
NOT TO MENTION THAT. ACTINIC
CREATING A MARKET FOR BY A MATH
THING IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO
MEET OUR DAIRY. AND LIVESTOCK
METHANE REDUCTION GOALS.
THESE GOALS WERE STATED IN SP
THIRTEEN EIGHTY THREE LOTS BUT.
A LAW THAT'S ALREADY BEEN
SIGNED AND AN ACTIVE A LAW THAT
COMES WITH IT OF SOME.
.
COMMITMENTS ON BEHALF THE STATE
TO FUND THAT TRANSITION TOWARD
OF THE ABILITY OF OF MANY OF
THESE.
IT MATTERS TO TO CREATE A
PIPELINE FOR THEIR PRODUCT. AS
THE BILL MOVES FORWARD AYE AYE
ONE EXPRESS.
TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT I'M
ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED AS I'VE
ALWAYS BEEN TO MITIGATING IN
MINIMIZING THE COSTS OF THE
PROGRAM. ON RATE PAYERS ENSURING
THAT.
ANY INVESTMENT ARE TO THE
RATEPAYERS BENEFIT.
SPEAKING.
DIDN'T.
WE HAVE.
UP SOME.
PEOPLE FROM THE INDUSTRY HERE.
ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS BUT.
.
IT'S GENERALLY.
.
UP.
THIS.
THIS BILL ARE WE MADE SOME OF
THE. AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL.
AND I PROPOSE IN THOSE
AMENDMENTS.
AS PART OF THIS PROCESS BUT
THEY WILL ENSURE. CONSISTENCY
THROUGHOUT THE BILL REGARDING
FIRST POINT OF INTERCONNECTION
LANGUAGE THEY WILL ENSURE THAT
UTILITIES TO NOT A FAIRLY
COMPETE WITH NON UTILITIES. AND
PROVIDES CLERK CLARIFICATION AS
TO THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS
REQUIRED. AND IT WILL PROVIDE
THE CPUC WITH MORE TIME TO
IMPLEMENT THE BILL SO IT'S DONE
CORRECTLY AND TIME.
WHEN OUR GREENHOUSE GAS.
FUND OR CAP AND TRADE FUNDS ARE
ORPHALI EXPENDED TO MAKE SURE
THAT.
.
ALL THESE OUR PRODUCERS ARE
READY TO ENTER THE MARKET AT THE
TIME THAT'S APPROPRIATE. WE HAVE
NICK FOR A OF REPRESENTING THE
COALITION FOR NEW RENEWABLE
NATURAL GAS JOE PROS ONLY THAT
DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT AT
ARIA ENERGY. BOB STRANGE THE
SALES DIRECTOR FOR CHOOSE OUR
ENERGY AND WILLIAM GRAHAM
SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE
WITH THE DEAL. MISCHIEVOUS YOU
YOU FORCED AMENDMENTS ON
YOURSELF THAT YOU'LL TAKE IT AND
I APPROPRIATIONS CORRECT YES
OKAY SO THOSE VERY DETAILED UP
PRESENTATION IF YOU COULD PLEASE
NOT BE REPETITIVE IN YOUR
REMARKS THAT WE GREAT SO PLEASE
BECAUSE OF NEXT.
PERHAPS.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS
MY NAME IS NINA COMPORT WITH THE
COALITION FOR NOBLE NATURAL GAS.
I WE SEE THIS BILL IS CRITICAL
TO THE SUCCESS OF LANDMARK
LEGISLATION FROM TWENTY SIXTEEN
S. B. THIRTEEN EIGHTY THREE
WHICH REQUIRED A FORTY PERCENT
REDUCTION AND METHANE EMISSIONS
BY TWENTY THIRTY.
ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION THERE'S
CURRENTLY MORE THAN EIGHTY
BILLION CUBIC FEET OF USABLE
METHANE BEING EMITTED FROM
LANDFILLS. DAIRYMAN ERROR AND
WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS IN
YOUR DISTRICTS.
YOUR RESOURCES WORD HAS STATED
THAT IN ORDER TO ME OUR METHANE
REDUCTION GOALS THE STATE'S
ORGANIC WAY SHOULD BE PUT TO
BENEFICIAL USE AS PIPELINE
INJECTED RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
THEY ESTIMATE THAT ORGANIC WASTE
CAN SUPPLY ENOUGH RENEWABLE
NATURAL GAS TO SUPPLY AN
ASTOUNDING TWO MILLION
RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN CALIFORNIA.
MANY OF SOURCES THAT ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ISSUES OF
METHANE EMISSIONS ARE
CONCENTRATED IN COMMUNITIES WITH
HIGH LEVEL OF POLLUTION. AND
UNEMPLOYMENT USE OF THE
COMMUNITIES THAT COULD
ESPECIALLY BENEFIT FROM TARGETED
INVESTMENTS TO IMPROVE PUBLIC
HEALTH. AND BOOST ECONOMIC
GROWTH.
THAT'S WHY THIS LEGISLATURE
UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR
ENVIRONMENTAL BUDGET SUB
COMMITTEES HAVE MADE OVER THE
PAST TWO YEARS. HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE
FOR ANAEROBIC DIGESTING
DIGESTION FACILITIES THROUGH THE
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION
REDUCTIONS.
HOWEVER THAT'S ONLY THE FIRST
STEP.
THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD HAS
RECOMMENDED TO ADDITIONAL STEPS
THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR A
COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION.
FIRST TO BUILD MARKET CERTAINTY
AND VALUE FOR THE ENERGY THAT
COMES FROM THOSE ANAEROBIC
DIGESTION FACILITIES.
THAT WILL HELP SECURE MUCH
NEEDED FINANCING TO ACCELERATE
AND SCALE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.
AND SECOND TO DEVELOP AND
IMPLEMENT SOLUTIONS TO OVERCOME
BARRIERS TO GREATER CONNECTION
FOR THE PROJECTS.
THIS BILL DOES BOTH OF THOSE
THINGS SB FOURTEEN FORTY CREATES
A MARKET FOR THIRTY TO BE CF OF
RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS THAT WOULD
DISPLACE ABOUT FIVE PERCENT. OF
THE FOSSIL NATURAL GAS THAT
UTILITIES CURRENTLY PROCURE TO
MEET THEIR NEEDS OF THEIR CORE
CUSTOMERS.
I HAD THE BILL ALSO EXTENDS
POLICY IN PRINT LIVE RATE BASING
INTERCONNECTION INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR DAIRY FACILITIES TO ALL
SOURCES OF OUR ENERGY IN THE
STATE. OUR HONORED TO BE THE
SPONSORS OF THIS BILL AND I
RESPECT BATHROBE.
RIGHT NEXT WITNESS GOOD GOOD
AFTERNOON A CENTERS TIM
CARMICHAEL A SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
GAS COMPANY.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE STATE'S
EFFORTS TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION
GREENHOUSE GASES INCLUDING THE
SHORT LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS
PLAN AS THE SENATOR SAID.
A KEY TO A SUCCESSFUL SHORT
LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS PLAN IS
A STRATEGY FOR BY A METHANE IN
CALIFORNIA.
WE BELIEVE THIS BILL IS AN
IMPORTANT PART OF THAT STRATEGY
INCREASING THE SUPPLY
AVAILABILITY OF BY METHANE IN
CALIFORNIA. INJECTION INTO THE
PIPELINE OF THIS VALUABLE
RESOURCE.
WILL ENABLE A DELIVERY DID
AFTER GAS CUSTOMERS.
IN GIVES.
BY METHANE ACCESS TO THE
BROADEST POSSIBLE MARKET
FACILITATING DIVERSE AND
FLEXIBLE AND USE OPPORTUNITIES.
THE.
COMPONENTS OF THE BILL
INCLUDING THE NUMBERS IN THE
BILL WERE DEVELOPED WITH AN EYE
TOWARDS MANAGING THE COSTS SO AS
WE DEVELOP THIS. TREMENDOUS
RESOURCE WE'RE DOING IT ON.
COST EFFECTIVELY.
WITH THAT WE ARE AT YOUR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL.
GREAT THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
ROB STRANGE TO START ENERGY FOUR
STAR ENERGY OUR PARTNER.
AND.
IS A DIVERSIFIED ENERGY COMPANY
FOCUSING ON PROVIDING CLEAN
ENERGY SOLUTIONS AT A COST
EFFECTIVE MANNER.
FOUR STAR UPSURGE THIRTY THREE
LANDFILL GAS TO ENERGY PROJECTS
IN U. S. AS WELL AS THREE
COGENERATION PLANTS FIVE BIOMASS
FACILITIES.
TRUE STAR ENERGY. OPERATES A
HAS BUILT IS THE COMPRESSION
SIDE THAT BUSINESS W BUILT OVER
TWO HUNDRED CNG STATIONS.
AND WE OPERATE DOWN FIFTY CNG
STATIONS.
.
GEN AND THAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW
USING AND. BY CONSUMING OVER
SIXTY MILLION GALLONS OF. GUY
GASOLINE GALLON EQUIVALENT
ANNUALLY WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
BILL.
RIGHT NEXT OTHER WITNESSES SPORT
I I SEE YOU HAVE A HAND WRITTEN
THING IT CAN JUST BE VERY BRIEF
PLEASE REFER TO HAVE THREE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF YOU
STATE YOUR NAME. WE REPRESENTING
YOUR SUPPORT THAT BE GREAT.
OUR JOB IS ONLY WITH OUR OUR
ENERGY WERE THE LARGEST PRODUCER
OF.
OUR ENERGY FROM LANDFILL GAS IN
THE COUNTRY AND WE'RE IN SUPPORT
OF THE S. B. FORTY FORTY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH
X. WITNESS.
HER MEMBERS JOHN WHITE THE
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN BUSINESS
COUNCIL WE SUPPORT THE BILL BUT
TO HAVE AMENDMENTS WE LIKE TO
SUGGEST TO INCLUDE ARE ALL
RENEWABLE CAST NOT JUST BY
METHANE THAT CAN BE. ABSORBED
WITH METHANE THAT CAN USE THE
THAT THE LANDFILL AND THE OTHER
METHANE SO WE THINK THAT'S A
MORE TECHNICAL CHANGE WE ALSO
THINK THE AUTHOR SHOULD CONSIDER
SETTING A TWENTY THIRTY TARGET
FOR PENETRATION BECAUSE WE'RE
GOING TO NEED TO GO DEEPER FOR
GOING TO CAPTURE ALL THEM THAT.
THEY NEED TO BUT WE THANK YOU
FOR YOUR LETTING US IF YOU.
THIS WITNESS
TO SHARE MEMBERS MARK WHITEN ON
BEHALF OF AQUA HEYDRICH'S WE ARE.
.
HYDROGEN ELECTROLYTIC HYDROGEN
COMPANY AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN
AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE HYDROGEN
THE DEFINITION OF.
THANK YOU THANK YOU EX WITNESS.
JEAN URBAN ON BEHALF OF WASTE
MANAGEMENT OPERATE SEVERAL
LANDFILLS PRODUCE NATURAL GAS
SOMETIMES WE MAKE TRANSPORTATION
FUEL WOULD LOVE TO INJECTED IN
THE COMMON CARRIER PIPELINE.
THANK YOU KILL.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JOSH
PANEM WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA
REFUSE RECYCLING COUNCIL.
HUNDRED COMPANIES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE THAT WE REPRESENT THREE
HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX CITIES AND
WE DO THEIR ORGANICS. WORK
THIS WILL BE A GREAT HELP TO
THAT AND SO WE APPLAUD THE
SENATORS EFFORTS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE CHART.
ON HOW MUCH THAT IS.
OUR SECTOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT A
WASTE
LANDFILLS ABOUT A HUNDRED AND
THIRTY NINE BE CF'S EACH YEAR.
I WHICH IS FORTY PERCENT OF THE
WHOLE SO WE APPRECIATE THE
SENATORS EFFORTS RIGHT THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
I THEIR MERRY SELECT KEY ON
BEHALF OF IGN CORPORATION IN
SUPPORT OF FOURTEEN FORTY THANK
THANK YOU VERY WELL TO SUPPORT.
WE HAVE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION
QUICK PLEASE CLICK THE TABLE IF
WE GOT SOME OPPOSITION COMING
FORWARD SO THEY CAN HAVE SEE
THANK YOU.
YES MICHAEL BROKEN OR ON BEHALF
OF THE AG ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION ARE GONNA GO UP IN
THE IN BETWEEN CATEGORY TODAY
BECAUSE WE HAD ORIGINALLY FILED
A VERY. QUALIFIED LETTER OF
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. WE'RE
HEARING SOME CONCERNS WE HAVEN'T
SEEN THE AMENDMENTS.
THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN BUT LET ME.
GIVE A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ACA'S
A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THIS
SPACE AND WERE UNIQUE IN THAT WE
NOT ONLY REPRESENT OPERATIONS
SUCH AS DAIRIES FOOD PROCESSING
CONSOLIDATES. AND OTHERS THAT
WOULD LIKE TO CREATE BY METHANE
PROJECTS IN CALIFORNIA WE ALSO
REPRESENT RATEPAYERS REPRESENTS
SOME OF THE LARGEST NATURAL GAS
RATEPAYERS IN THE STATE BECAUSE
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT FUEL SOURCE.
IN THE FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRY
TOMATO PROCESSING CHEESE
PROCESSING AND FOOD PROCESSING
AND SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A
UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
WE CAN SUPPORT THE CONCEPT LIKE
THIS PROVIDED IS VERY LIMITED IN
THE THIRTY TWO BILLION CUBIC
FEET.
THE BILL IS CURRENTLY LIMITED TO
IS THE OUTSIDE LEVEL FOR US
ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT AND WE
WOULD HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT
CONCERNS ABOUT COST.
EVERYBODY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS
GAS IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE IT'S
VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT IS FIVE TO TEN TIMES AS
EXPENSIVE AS CONVENTIONAL FOSSIL
NATURAL GAS AND SO WE NEED TO
KEEP A LID ON THIS OR IT WILL
DRIVE NATURAL GAS RATES IN THE
STATE. THE EXTRAORDINARY LEVELS.
SECONDLY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
THAT THIS BILL REMAIN LIMITED TO
BUY A MATH THING AND REMAIN
IMITED TO IN STATE SOURCES OF
BIO METHANE.
THERE IS VERY LITTLE VALUE HER A
LITTLE BIT A TESTIMONY FROM ALL
THESE PROJECTS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. THERE IS VERY LITTLE
VALUE TO BRINGING IN RENEWABLE
NATURAL GAS FROM OTHER STATES
IT'S ALREADY BEING CALLED
COLLECTED.
I AT LANDFILLS AND OTHER STATES
THERE IS VALUE FROM IN STATE
SOURCES DAIRIES WASTE WATER
AGENCIES AND OTHERS IT NEEDS TO
REMAIN LIMITED TO THAT PART
AGAIN THE COST WILL GET
EXCESSIVE. AND OUR RATEPAYERS
WILL BE PAYING FOR PROJECTS IN
TEXAS INDIANA AND ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
IT'S GONNA BE HARD ENOUGH TO GT
OUR RATEPAYERS TO PAY FOR
PROJECTS IN CALIFORNIA WITHOUT
EXPANDING THAT TO HAVING OR RATE
PAYERS PAY FOR THE CLIMATE
POLICIES AND OTHER STATES.
SO WE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS WE
CAN SUPPORT LEGISLATION LIKE
THIS MOVING FORWARD WE WANTED TO
MAKE SURE THAT COMMITTEE
UNDERSTOOD.
THE PARAMETERS FROM WHERE THE
AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRIES COME.
OKAY THANK YOU SIR.
COULD I ALSO OFFER A TWEENER
POSITION BEFORE YOU GET OFF SURE
PLEASE JULIA ELEVEN WITH THE BIO
ENERGY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIAN I APOLOGIZE FOR MY
VOICE ABOUT ABOUT COLD.
AND WE ACTUALLY REPRESENT MOST
OF THE IN STATE PROJECT IN
CALIFORNIA BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY
BEEN CONSULTED. IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS BILL. SO WE
HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS ON
PROCESS AT THIS POINT THESE ARE
HUGELY IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
TO REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK TO
REDUCE METHANE FROM DAIRIES TO
REDUCE LANDFILL IN ORGANIC WASTE.
AND WE SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF
THE BILL AS WELL AND WE THINK WE
REALLY NEED A PROCUREMENT
REQUIREMENT CALIFORNIA BUT WE
HAVE NINE SEPARATE SIGNIFICANT
ISSUES WITH THIS BILL. WE THINK
IT'S MAKING PROGRESS WITH SOME
OF THESE ISSUES BUT.
IT'S GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO THE
BILL DOES NOT FOCUS EXCLUSIVELY
ON IN STATE BIOGAS AT THIS POINT
IN IN STATE BY A GUEST CAN'T
COMPETE. WITH LANDFILL GAS FROM
TEXAS AND OHIO BUT IT'S ONLY THE
IN STATE FACILITIES THAT REALLY
PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO
CALIFORNIA.
WE THINK IT NEEDS TO PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FR ALL SECTORS
RIGHT NOW THE BILL DOESN'T
INCLUDE FOREST WASTE WATER OR
AGRICULTURAL WASTE.
AND WE THINK THAT THERE ARE A
LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RATE
BASE IN PROVISIONS. HOW THE
FIFTEEN DOLLAR CAP IS GOING TO
BE IMPLEMENTED? I AND A NUMBER
OF OTHER ISSUES SO WE WE REALLY
SUPPORT THE NEED FOR A
PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENT. BUT THE
BILL NEEDS CONTINUED WORKING
NEEDS TO INCLUDE ALL
STAKEHOLDERS.
OKAY THANK YOU KNOW GOOD
OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS MY NAME
IS BRENDA PRESS THE CLEAN ENERGY
CLEAN ENERGY IS THE LARGEST
PROVIDER OF NATURAL GAS
TRANSPORTATION FEEL THE COUNTRY.
AND ALSO THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF
RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS AS
TRANSPORTATION FUEL WE DELIVERED
ROUGHLY EIGHT POINT FIVE BILLION
CUBIC FEET OF ARE IN G. IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND TWENTY
SEVENTEEN WRIST WHICH
REPRESENTED SIXTY PERCENT OF THE
TOTAL ARE IN G. DELIVERED IN THE
STATE.
WE.
WE HAVE TAKEN AN OPPOSING LESS
MEN OF POSITION OFFICIALLY. NO
WE IT WE AGREE WITH THE INTENT
OF THE BILL AND FOSTERING GROWTH
OF CALIFORNIA RENEWABLE NATURAL
GAS PRODUCTION HOWEVER WE ARE
CONCERNED. WITH THE COMPETITIVE
ADVANTAGES AFFORDED TO THE
UTILITIES IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO.
FOR SUSPEND THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSPORTATION BILL MARKET WHICH
IS ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED MARKET
FOR RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
LAST YEAR. REAL THAT WE GAS
REPRESENTS SIXTY SIX PERCENT OF
THE NATURAL GAS VEHICLE FUEL
DEMAND IN CALIFORNIA WHICH IN
TWENTY SEVENTEEN REPRESENT
TWENTY ONE. TWENTY ONE POINT SIX
BILLION CUBIC FEET THERE'S AN
ESTABLISHED MARKET READY AND
UNDERSERVED TODAY BECAUSE THAT
MARK IS CURRENTLY SERVE WITH NON
CALIFORNIA SOURCES OF OUR ENERGY.
OUR GOAL AS THE LARGE FOR OUR
NITROUS TRANSPORTATION FUEL. IS
TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF
CALIFORNIA RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
THROUGH THAT EXISTING
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL GO TO
IT IS CHEATING THIS GOAL SO WE
WANT THE COMPETITIVE MARKET TO
CONTINUE AND ECHOING SOME OF THE
OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT PROCESS. WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL
STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED ARE
INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS IN
DEVELOPING THE RIGHT PATH
FORWARD.
CLEAN ENERGY ACTUALLY HAS
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WILL
FACILITATE GUARANTEEING PRICE
PRICE SUPPORT FOR CALIFORNIA
DEVELOPMENT WHILE MAINTAINING
THE COMPETITIVE THE COMPETITIVE
MARKET NATURE FOR NATURAL GAS
TRANSPORTATION FUEL AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO SHARING WITH AND
HAVING. A WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR TO FACILITATE THIS BILL
GOING FULLY. AND I JUST WANT TO
BOOKMARK HIS COMMENTS IF WE
COULD.
JUST MISTER CHAIR. UP THERE WE
WE MADE SOME AMENDMENTS AND
THERE'S AN AMENDMENT LIKE IT'S
TO THAT ISSUE AND SOME OTHER
COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE SO I
THOUGHT I'D LIKE TO YOUR STOMACH
SAYS YOU I'VE I'VE LIST THE
AMENDMENTS THERE EITHER THEY'RE
AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.
BUT I'M SURE IT'LL SATISFY SOME
OF THESE CONCERNS AND AND A
YOU'LL BE HEARING SOME COMMENTS
THAT.
ARE DRESSING THE BILL IN THE
ABSENCE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS AND
THAT'S
DURING WEEK WE CAN CLARIFY THAT
IT'S OF GREAT HEARING THANK YOU
AND POLKA OTHERS OPPOSITION.
PATRICK WHAT DO THE CALIFORNIA
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TODAY
I'M OUR MEMBERS SUPPORT A
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO
CLIMATE POLICY THAT OPTIMIZES
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION
REDUCTIONS ACROSS MULTIPLE
SECTORS. ADVANCE ABILITY
CURRENTLY DRAFTED WE HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE COST SEVENTY
PASSED ON TO OUR MEMBERS. THAT
USE NOT. I PURCHASE NATURAL GAS
TO RUN THEIR NATURAL GAS POWER
PLANTS. THERE'S TWO MECHANISMS
IN THE BILL THAT WOULD PASS ON
THOSE COSTS BUT INFRASTRUCTURE
COSTS IN EXCESS REFUSAL COSTS OF
THE RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS AND
THAT WOULD. LEAD US TO POSSIBLY.
INCREASE ELECTRICITY RATES ON
OUR CUSTOMERS AND APPRECIATE
THAT SENATORS COMMENT IN HIS
REMARKS ABOUT ADDRESSING. A COST
IMPACTS TO REPAIRS AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM.
THANK YOU GREAT OTHERS
OPPOSITION.
WHICH CHAIR MEMBERS GREG COOKERS
IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA POWER
AGENCY.
WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE
ANALYSIS AND THE AUTHOR HAVE BIG
UNDERSTOOD THE POTENTIAL IMPACT
ON RATEPAYERS LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE AUTHORS OF BILL
GO FORWARD THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Q. OTHERS NOT POSITION.
ENOUGH YOU'RE HERNANDEZ A BEHALF
OF TURN.
WE LOOK FOR TO LOOKING AT THE
AMENDMENTS REVIEWING THEM A
LITTLE MORE CLOSELY AND WE DO
HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT
WE'VE GOT TO LOOK FOR IT
SPEAKING WITH THE AUTHOR ABOUT.
A ONE OF WHICH IS THE OF
PROPOSED FIXED CHARGE WE THINK
THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
OBGYN WILL WE LOOK FOR TO
PARKING NOT WITH THE AUTHOR ALSO
BE BE TALKING HOPEFULLY BEFORE
TOMORROW'S COMMITTEE.
OKAY THANK YOU ANYWHERE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION.
ARE BRINGING BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANY.
COMMENTS QUESTIONS.
THE DESIRE OF THE MOVE THE BILL
ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION ONE OF
THE.
GOING TO CLOSE THERE WAS SOME
YEAH JUST GENERALLY I APOLOGIZE
FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THIS PROCESS
AND YOU HAVE THE ONE BILL TODAY.
INSERTED AMENDMENTS ON HAVING
HEARD.
AT THE NEXTCOMMITTEE THE NEXT
DAY I'D INVENTED BUT.
MY LOOK FOR WORKING WITH
EVERYBODY AT THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT BILL TO. MAKE
CALIFORNIA MEET.
OUR OUR OUR.
OUR GOALS OF
OF IMPROVING OUR QUALITY BY
TWENTY THIRTY THIS IS AN
IMPERATIVE BILL.
WE NEED IT WE NEEDED AND AND
AREAS OF HAVE THE FORCE QUALITY
IN THE NATION ESPECIALLY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE COULD SEE IT
WILL WE EXPECT TO SEE.
SOME IMPROVEMENTS TAKING PLACE
WITH THE EXPLOSIVE VERY EXCITING
BILL FROM THE SOFT I THANK THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ALBUM MOVE
FORWARD THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN WHO OF THE SECTOR
CULTURAL PLEASE.
DO YOU PASSED HIM BY MENTAL
QUALITY COMMITTEE WITH THE
COMMITMENTS TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
APPROPRIATIONS. WESO.
HUESO AYE MORALE. BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA AYE
CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG AYE HILL
AYE HILL AYE MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
AYE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE STERN BIDAK WIENER.
FULLER.
TO LEAVE IT ON FOR A SEC.
THE BILL HAS ENOUGH VOTES TO GET
OUT WILL LEAVE IT ON THE ROLE
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS WHO WILL
MOVE ON TO. THE NEXT BILL.
BY.
CENTER SKINNER
.
THANK YOU KAREN MEMBERS.
SP TEN FOURTEEN.
RECOGNIZES THAT OUR
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
ARE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO HELP
THE STATE MEET IT'S CLEAN AIR.
AND CLIMATE PROTECTION GOALS
WHY.
I'M AS WE KNOW RIDE HAILING HAS
GROWN IN GREAT HOUSTON IS VERY
CONVENIENT SO IT IS ONE OF THE
REASONS THAT IT'S USES GROWN.
BUT THE RICK RESULT IS IS THAT
MANY.
THERE IS NOW AN INCREASING
NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES.
IN ANY COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY
ON A GIVEN DAY.
THAT OUR VEHICLES DEPLOYED BY
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY.
I'M.
CALIFORNIA.
PRIMARY SOURCE OF AIR POLLUTION.
AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
REMAIN SPASO FUELED VEHICLES.
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SET
AMBITIOUS GOALS TO ELECTRIFY
TRANSPORTATION WE HAVE PROGRAMS
SUCH AS OUR CLEAN VEHICLE REBATE
PROGRAM. WHY WE ARE INVESTING IN
ELECTRIC CHARGING WE'RE DOING
MANY THINGS
TO?
IN INCREASE THE USE OF OUR ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES.
CERTAINLY WE WANT.
THAT USE OF ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES TO BE EN.
VEHICLES THAT ARE.
TROUBLING A LOT OF MILES ON A
GIVEN DAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE THE RISE
OF.
VEHICLES DEPLOYED ON A
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
PLATFORM.
NOT IN ALL CASES BUT IN MANY
CASES ARE TRAVELING A LOT OF VMT
ANY GIVEN DAY. IN FACT SAN
FRANCISCO THE SITTING COUNTY OF
SEARCHES GOES OWN TRANSPORTATION.
BY AGENCY.
I'M DETERMINES THAT WITHIN SAN
FRANCISCO ON A WEEKDAY.
THERE'S PARKS ME FIVE HUNDRED
AND SEVENTY THOUSAND VEHICLE
MILES TRAVELED PURELY BY.
VEHICLES DEPLOYED BY OUR
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS RATHER
THEN SET GOALS ON THAT EX NUMBER
OF THE VEHICLES DATA TNC DEPLOYS.
MUST BE ZERO MISSION IT SETS
TARGETS AROUND THE MILES.
AND THAT WAY YOU CAN HOPE THAT
THOSE
TNC DRIVERS
WHO ARE HIGH MILEAGE DRIVERS.
WOULD BE OF THE WANTS TO.
TO UTILIZES F. SO THE THE GOAL
IS TWENTY PERCENT CLEAN MILES BY
IF INITIAL DATE AND FIFTY
PERCENT CLEAN MILES BY ANOTHER
DATE WE EVERY I AM ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENT. THAT I WORKED WITH
THE CHAIRMAN STAFF
TO ELIMINATE THE HUNDRED PERCENT
CLEAN MILES TARGET AND INSTEAD
APPLIED THAT ONLY FOR VEHICLES.
OWNED OR LEASED BY DIRECTLY BY
THE TNC COMPANY
NOW CURRENTLY WITH IN OUR
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
BUSINESS MODELS.
THERE TENDED NOT TO OWN VEHICLES
THOUGH SOME DO LEASE
BUT IS THERE AS THE MOVE INTO
THE FUTURE THEY MAY OPT TO OWN
MANY MORE VEHICLES AND IF THEY
ACTUALLY. BUILT THE FLEET THEN
WE WANT THAT FLEET
TO BE CLEAN MILES
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE
BILL AND I HAVE.
.
THE JOHN RIGHT HERE FROM THE
CENTER FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND
RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGIES TO.
AS A WITNESS IN SUPPORT AND
CATHERINE BRANDENBURG FROM SNOW
BETWEEN POWER.
I'M
CHAU MEMBERS SHAUN WHITE
ACTUALLY REPRESENT CLEAN POWER
CAMPAIGN WHICH SEVEN FILL IT OF
CERTAIN.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL
FOR THE REASONS THAT SENATOR
SKINNER STATED THAT THE TREND OF
THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ó
AND THE SHARE OF THE TRENCHES
NETWORKING COMPANIES IS STEADILY
INCREASING.
ALSO WE WOULD NOTE THAT THE THAT
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE DRIVERS
WHO DRIVE THE MOST MILES.
TEND TO BE DRIVERS WITH LESS
INCOME AND ARE GOING TO NEED
HELP AND ASSISTANCE TO BE OWNING
ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE THINK THAT
THE BILL CREATES AN INCENTIVE.
FOR THE TEST WE SING NETWORKING
COMPANIES.
TO WORK WITH THEIR DRIVERS TO
HELP THEM.
PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES PERHAPS
BY OFFERING ADDITIONAL OF A
FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO THOSE
DRIVERS A AND TO HELP AND AKE
ADVANTAGE OF AVAILABLE
INCENTIVES FROM THE.
FROM THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD SO WE ASK YOUR
IDOL FOR THE BILL WE THINKS IS
AN IMPORTANT STEP. IN THE
EVOLUTION OF OUR TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT THE TNC
ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
GIVEN ALL CONGESTION IN THE
MILES AT THE AND WE THINK THAT
IT'S ONLY FAIR TO ASK THEM TO
BECOME PARTICIPANTS IN THE
TRANSITION TO CLEAN MILES
TRANSPORTATION BACK.
THANK YOU MY NAME IS KATHERINE
BRANDENBURGIAN I REPRESENT
CINEMA CLEAN POWER. CINEMA CLEAN
POWER REPRESENTS CUSTOMERS AND
PROVIDES ENERGY TO CUSTOMERS IN
CINEMA AND MENDOCINO COUNTIES.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT. YOU HAVE TO
LOOK AT IT FROM A COMMUNITY BASE
ALSO. AND SO CINEMA CLEAN POWER
TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES IN THE
LAST TWO YEARS AND CREATED
PILOT PROGRAMS IN ORDER TO. AYE
CREATE INCENTIVES FOR THEIR
CUSTOMERS TO BUY. ELECTRIC
VEHICLES AT A DISCOUNTED RATE
THEY WORKED WITH IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE DEALERSHIPS. AND OUT
ALSO HAD INCENTIVES FROM THE YOU
KNOW THEIR OWN.
PROGRAM.
SO THEY WERE ABLE INGEST VERY
SMALL PILOT PROGRAMS OUT.
WE'RE ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS.
A PIECE THEY DID TWO OF THEM.
SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE ON
CUSTOMERS TOOK PARTICIPATED IN
THIS PROGRAM.
THEY WERE IT THE DEALERSHIPS
COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT WITH FEES
AND SENATE SET MORE PEOPLE WERE
ABLE TO PURCHASE. ON ELECTRIC
VEHICLES MORE LOW INCOME AND OUR
FIRST I SAT AT THE PILOT WE
REALIZED.
LOW INCOME WE NEEDED TO WORK.
HAVE A BETTER STRUCTURE FOR THEM
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME TAKEN HAVE
CREDITS IF THEY DID HAVE CREDIT.
THEY COULDN'T TO PURCHASE A
VEHICLE.
THE SECOND ROUND WE WERE ABLE TO
WORK WITH DIFFERENT ON BANKS AND
THE DEALERSHIPS PROVIDE THAT
CREDIT.
SO IF YOU PROVIDE INCENTIVES
THEY WILL COME.
AND SO YOUNG CINEMA CLEAN POWER
COMPLETELY YOU KNOW WE SUPPORT
THIS BILL ON AND WE'D LIKE TO
SEE IT MOVE ALONG AND OUT WORK
WITH THE.
THE THE.
I TNC AND MOVE FORWARD THINKING.
AND JAMIE MINOR ON BEHALF OF
TOUSEY CA IN MC <c.green&gt; I'M WE</c&gt;
BELIEVE THAT ELECTRIFYING THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR IS
ESSENTIAL IN MEETING OUR
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION GOALS
AND. I WERE COMMITTED IN
PARTNERING WITH THE STATE ON
DOING THAT SO WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL THINK.
GOOD AFTERNOON KORABL SOME HALF
OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT I'M ALSO
HERE ON BEHALF OF CAL START WE
HAVE A SUPPORTING CONCEPT
POSITION.
WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE
CENTER'S RESPONSIVENESS TO SOME
OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY A MANY
GROUPS WILK FORCING THOSE ISSUES
GET WORKED OUT THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL.
TO HAVE SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.
A GOOD AFTERNOON THAT.
CHAIRMAN HUESO AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS OF MY NAME IS ANDREA
DIVO AND
TODAY ON BEHALF OF TECH THAT.
UP WE REGRETTABLY TELL OUR
TESTIFYING TODAY IN OPPOSITION
TO SB TEN FOURTEEN AYE WE REALLY
WANT TO THINK SENATOR SKINNER
AND HER STOP. FORGETTING TO WORK
WITH US ON HONOR CONCERNS
THIS LEGISLATION IS WELL
INTENDED AND WE HAD A POTS UNDER
SKINNER'S EFFORTS TO REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. AND
TRANSITION CALIFORNIANS TO
ELECTRIFIED TRANSPORTATION FLEA.
RIGHT SURE SERVICE CAN PLAY A
CRITICAL ROLE IN REDUCING
CRITERIA AIR BALLOONS THROUGH
REDUCING SINGLE OCCUPANCY TRIPS
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
TRANSITION TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WE DO MAINTAINED HOWEVER THAT
THIS TRANSITION MUST OCCUR IN
REALISTIC STOPS THAT PROTECT
FLEXIBILITY FOR TNC DRIVERS.
AS LEGEND WE DO APPRECIATE THE
HANDFUL OF OPPORTUNITIES WE ARE
HARD TO DISCUSS OUR SHARED GOALS
AND ISSUES WITH THE SENATOR. AYE
HOWEVER WE DO CONTINUE TO BE
CONCERNED WITH THE ABILITY OF
OUR DRIVERS TO COMPLY. WITH THE
REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY PROPOSED
NASTY TEN FOURTEEN.
WE ALSO FEEL STRONGLY THAT IN
ORDER FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES TO
BECOME A VIABLE OPTION FOR NOT
ONLY TNC DRIVERS BUT FOR THE
MAJORITY OF CALIFORNIANS.
SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS NEED TO
BE MADE IN THE NECESSARY
INFRASTRUCTURE IN. WITH THE
NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO
SUPPORT ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND TO
BRING THE INITIAL PURCHASE AN
OPERATION PRICES DOWN.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WERE
MAINTAINING THE FLEXIBILITY WHEN
IT COMES TO DRIVING FOR TNC IS
AND EARNING EARNING A LIVING ALL
THE WHILE PERHAPS NOT HAVING THE
MEANS TO PURCHASE AN ELECTRIC
VEHICLE.
ADDITIONALLY WE WANT TO BE SURE
THAT ANY TIME LINES CONSIDERED
FOR THE IDENTIFIED TARGETS ARE
REASONABLE. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
ACHIEVABLE.
WE WANT TO REITERATE THE SHOW
THAT WE SHARE THE GOAL OF
EXPANDING ELECTRIC VEHICLES THE
USE IN CALIFORNIA WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH SENATOR
SKINNER AND HER STAFF.
TO DETERMINE REALISTIC
INCENTIVES AND INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL MAKE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES OF VIABLE
OPTIONS FOR ALL WORKING
CALIFORNIANS THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
MY MISTAKE BOTH THE STUFF ON
pALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO I'VE
BEEN HERE SINCE NINE A. M..
I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU GUYS. A
GREAT A SELF YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
I'M.
CHAIRMAN WESSEL AND THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR ME TO SPEAK TODAY I IN
BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL DIVERSITY
COALITION AND NATIONAL. ASIAN
AMERICAN COALITION WERE
NATIONWIDE NETWORK OF STATE AND
LOCAL EFFORTS TO. ADVISE THE
ADVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
MEANS WE HAVE EIGHT HUNDRED
THOUSAND MEMBERS ON TO DATE.
AS LEADERS OF GROUPS WORKING TO
ADVANCE THE SOCIAL ECONOMIC
INTERESTS OF CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
WE JOIN IN OPPOSITION TO SB TEN
FOURTEEN. A WELL INTENDED
LEGISLATION THAT IN CURRENT FORM
MISS THE MARK WHEN HELPING
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
DRIVERS. TRANSPORTATION THE ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES.
WHAT WE APPRECIATE EFFORTS TO
SPUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE ADOPTION
AND THE STATE S. B. THEN
FOURTEEN DOES LITTLE IN THE WAY
OF HELPING? HARDWORKING
CALIFORNIANS MAKE ENDS MEET
INSTEAD OF PLACES UNREALISTIC
DEMANDS ON DRIVERS.
ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM MODEST
MEANS AND THREATENS THE
FLEXIBILITY EARNING
OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT YARDS HAVE
PROVIDED.
RIGHT YEARS HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY
HELPFUL FOR MEMBERS OF MINORITY
COMMUNITIES ALLOWING THEM TO
TURN. PERSONAL VEHICLES FROM
LIABILITIES INTO ASSETS THAT
HELP
SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME.
FIFTY PERCENT OF DRIVERS ON THE
LEFT AND DRIVER AND OVERT
PLATFORMS AYE LOW INCOME.
AND NINETY THREE PERCENT DRIVER
FEWER DONE TWENTY HOURS A WEEK.
S. B. TEN FOURTEEN WOULD PREVENT
PEOPLE FROM USING THE CARS THEY
ALREADY HAVE US EARLY S. TWO
YEARS FROM NOW. AND COMPLETELY
IN TEN YEARS.
THE RAPID TIME FRAME IS NOT
REALISTIC NO OTHER CALIFORNIA
ROLL YOU SIR. FACES SET UP BY.
TIMELINE FOR GTTING A HUNDRED
PERCENT THE ZERO EMISSION
TROUBLE.
UNLESS SIMILAR INFRASTRUCTURE
CHANGES ALSO MANDATED WOULD
ALLOW THE TENURE OF TIME FRAME
PUT FORT.
S. B. THEN FOURTEEN UNFAIRLY
PENALIZES HARDWORKING. DRIVERS
SPECIALLY. PUSHING THE VAST
MAJORITY WHO DO NOT HAVE AND
CANNOT AFFORD. AN ELECTRIC
VEHICLE OFF THE PLATFORM.
HITTING LOW INCOME MINORITY
GROUPS THE HARDEST.
WELL WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
GREATER ADOPTION OF ELECTRIC
VEHICLES IN CALIFORNIA WE MUST
OPPOSE THIS BILL. A SUITE AND
YOU TO DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT
ON CALIFORNIA'S COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR WHO ARE WORKING TO MAKE
ENDS MEET US RIGHT SHOW DRIVERS.
I DRIVE I USE LEFT TEN TIMES A
WEEK AND I ACTUALLY I SPOKE TO
EVERY SINGLE DRIVER DOT I'VE
BEEN. ON WRITING AND THEY ALWAYS
SAID IT'S VERY UNREALISTIC FOR
THEM.
SO WE HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
NOW.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME'S TIM
MCCRAE ON THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR
ENERGY FOR THE SILICON VALLEY
LEADERSHIP GROUP WERE OVER THREE
HUNDRED SIXTY MEMBER COMPANIES
TECH COMPANIES IN SILICON VALLEY
AND WE OPPOSE THE BILL. AND IN
SHORT YOU HAVE LONG HEARING
DON'T NEED TO HEAR ME BROTHER.
WE'VE IT RIO AS A MANDATE THAT
MANDATES THAT LIFTED UBER AND
TRANSMISSION IT CAN COMPANIES
HAVE TO GO ELECTRIC THEN WE'RE
GOING TO OPPOSE ANY VERSION OF
THE BILL THAT CAN BE READ AS
AMENDED START HOW AM I. EVER SEE
IT THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION.
KEVIN MCKINLEY ON BEHALF F
INTERNET ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION
THANK YOU.
OKAY WILL COME TO THE MEMBERS
NOW ANNIE ANNIE.
YEAH IF I COULD THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR AND IN A THIS IS I THINK
GREAT LEGISLATION AND I WAS LIKE
PUSHING THE ENVELOPE IT'S IT
SPEAKER IT'S HEALTHY WE'VE SEEN
IT CARBON ELSEWHERE AND IT'S
BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I AM CONCERNED
AND I KNOW WE CHATTED ABOUT THE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE MEMBERS
THAT YOU TOOK WITH THE TWENTY
PERCENT IN THE FORTY PERCENT IN
TWO YEARS YOU KNOW AND THEY
BECOME IT'S A TECHNIQUE
REASONABLE AND ACHIEVABLE Y.
THINKER. ARE CRITICAL AND.
IN I DON'T THINK IT THINK
THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE TIGHT
BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE
MARKET TODAY THAT IN THE SECOND
ISSUE IS. SUMMER DRIVE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE IT IS ALWAYS THAT ISSUE
OF RANGE ANXIETY AND I HOPE THAT.
WE HAVE GOIN TO FILL UP THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE ESPECIALLY FOR
TEENS TO DRIVERS WHO MAY NOT
HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE
REASONABLENESS OF BEEN ABLE TO
STOP FOR TWO HOURS OR THREE
HOURS AND. HAVE THE CAR GEORGE.
SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN WITH THAT
BECAUSE I LIKE IT. AND HOPEFULLY
HE'LL CONSIDER THAT IN THIS THE
BILL MOVES.
CENTER OF IRAQ. I THINK I LIKE
BILL I LIKE THE IDEA BUT AGAIN
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAN
FRANCISCO US EVER CISCO IS SO
MUCH DIFFERENT THAN TULARE
COUNTY AND DIE NUBA.
AGAIN GOING TO THE CHARGING.
WE DON'T HAVE LANES WHERE I
LIVE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE
CHARGING CAPACITY IN WHICH YOUR
TIME LINES AND REALLY CONCERNED
AND THE COST OF THE CARS. UPON
IF I'M IN BUSINESS I WOULD I
WANT TO DO AS MANY RIDES AS I
CAN. AND IF I HAVE TO STOP TO
CHARGE AND GIVES IT THE ONLY CAR
I CAN DRIVE IS SOMETHING THAT
HAS TO SIT IN.
AND CHARGE I CAN AFFORD A CAR TO
BEGIN WITH NOR DO I HAVE A PLACE
TO CHARGE IT.
RICHEST RIDGE JUST LIVE IN A
VERY VERY DIVERSE STATE SO FOR
RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA HAVE A HARD
TIME SUPPORTING THE BILL BUT AS
YOU GO FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'RE
PROBABLY GET THROUGH.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW THE
POOREST OF THE POOR OF REPRESENT
POOREST DISTRICTS IN THE STATE.
BUT TO HAVE A MANDATE.
THAT EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE THIS
WERE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION
THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT SCARY FOR
FOLKS LIKE US IN THE INTERIOR.
SENATE BRADFORD THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN I AYE TO WANT TO
COMMEND THE AUTHOR FOR HER
EFFORTS HERE BUT I DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO THE
MANDATES AS WELL. AS THE
INDIVIDUAL WHO DOESN'T NECESSARY
REPRESENT A POOR COMMUNITY. I
STILL ARE OR WERE STILL LACKING
CHARGING FACILITIES AND MOST OF
THE CITIES I MEAN.
NUMBER OF YEARS AGO UNDER THAT
AND RG SETTLEMENT TO GOVERNOR'S.
DECIDED THAT INSTEAD OF
REFUNDING REPAIRS FROM THE TWO
THOUSAND TWO THOUSAND ONE ENERGY
CRISIS THAT WE WILL PUT.
CHARGING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA MY FEAR WAS
THAT WOULD JONES ONLY GOING CITY
SUCH SAN FRANCISCO SAN DIEGO.
ALLY AND SACRAMENTO THAT'S
PRETTY MUCH THE CASE RIGHT NOW
AS YOU.
LOOK AT THIS DE GREAT DIVERSE
STATE LAST YEAR I DID A TNC BILL
AND I WORKED WITH THOSE DRIVERS
MANY. OF WHOM ARE PART TIME
RETIRED JUST MOTHERS PARA.
FATHERS.
DOING THIS PART TIME.
STUDENTS
AND TO ASK THEM NOW TO.
.
GET AN ELECTRIC CAR ONE THEY
THEY CAN'T AFFORD I REALLY THINK
IT STIFLES THIS INDUSTRY. HOME
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW WE COME TO A COMMON
GROUND WHERE WE WE WE DO WANT
CLEAN EMISSIONS ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES BUT AT THE SAME TIME
FOR US TO.
CONTINUE TO MANDATE WHAT THOSE
GOALS ARE THOSE TIME LINES MAKES
IT VERY TOUGH FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE I HAVE A TEST LOW AREN'T
DE FACILITY IN WALKING DISTANCE
FROM MY HOUSE AND I'M ALWAYS
MARVELED AT THE NUMBER OF TESTS
LAWS. THAT ARE IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD WELL.
THEY'RE NOT MY NEIGHBORS WON'T
MAY GO TO THE CHARGING STATION
TO THE CHARGING FREE CHARGING
STATION THERE AND YOU HAVE
PEOPLE COME FROM WEST LA TO COME
OVER THERE AND CHARGE YOUR CARS
FOR A COUPLE HOURS BECAUSE IT'S
FREE SO. IT'S JUST LIMIT.
FACILITIES AND I I DO THINK
IT'S GONNA STIFLE.
THE TNC MARKET IF WE
BUT THESE MANDATES ON IT SO.
I WILL.
WATCH THE BILL AND SEE WHAT WE
DO HERE THANK YOU.
FIRE COULD ADDRESS THOSE YES
CONCERNED SO. FIRST OFF THE
THERE'S NO LONGER A HUNDRED
PERCENT IN THEIR.
AND SECONDLY I WILL BE CHANGING
THE DATE.
SO THE RIGHT NOW IN THE BILL SO
AS AMENDED THERE'LL BE NO
HUNDRED PERCENT EXCEPT FOR
VEHICLES OWNED.
BE TWENTY PERCENT
CLEAN MILES DOESN'T MEAN ALL TNC
DRIVERS WHO DOESN'T MEAN THAT
TWENTY PERCENT OF TNC DRIVERS IT
MEANS THE TWENTY PERCENT OF THE
MILES DEPLOY. BY TNC COMPANY.
IT RIGHT NOW IN THE BILL IT SAYS
TWENTY TWENTY I WILL BE REVISING
THAT DATE. AND I AM WORKING ON
WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE
DATE BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
INFRASTRUCTURE AND MORE VEHICLES
WITH RANGE.
SO THAT WILL BE A LONGER OUT
DATE AND WHEN THAT DATE CHANGES
THE IFTY PERCENT DATE WILL ALSO
CHANGE.
SO THAT WAY THE BILL IS MUCH
MORE BOTH A MARKET SIGNAL. AND
ALSO A SIGNAL TO.
THE TNC COMPANIES I WOULD POINT
OUT THAT WE EKING SIGNIFICANT
INCREASES IT RATHER INVESTMENTS
IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IT IS
SOMETHING THAT WE IS THE STATE
OF BEEN DOING YEAR BY YEAR. AND
THE GOVERNOR'S OWN.
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN BUDGET
PROPOSAL FOR THE G. G. R. F.
FUND FOR THEIR GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION FUND.
IS IT HAS BOTH AN INCREASE
FOR ZAP CHARGING INVESTMENT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND AN INCREASE
IN THE CLEAN VEHICLE REBATE
PROGRAM WHICH ALSO NOTE NOW
CURRENTLY. IS PRIORITIZED FOR
LOW INCOME DRIVERS
SO BOTH OF THOSE INVESTMENTS.
ARE EACH YEAR WE HAVE BEEN
INCREASING AND WITH THE.
WITH OUR RENEWAL RENEWAL OF THE
CAP AND TRADE FUNDING WE ARE.
.
CONTINUING TO.
COLLECT AN INCREASE IN.
THAT FUND WHICH WOULD ENABLE US
TO ASSIST THIS
BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO
RECOGNIZE IS THAT YES WE DO NOT
WANT A DISADVANTAGE LOW INCOME.
DRIVERS BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE.
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
THEMSELVES
OWN THAT DAY ARE DEPLOYING
VEHICLES
AND IN EFFECT WHILE THEY DON'T
OWN THAT FLEET THEY ARE
DEPLOYING THE FLEET AND WE HAVE
ALREADY PUT.
REQUIREMENTS ON OTHER FLEET
OWNERS SO WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO
IS STRUCTURED THIS TO RESPECT
THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT
BUSINESS MODEL. SO I'M NOT.
PUTTING THE SAME MANDATE ON THEM
THAT A PUT ON OTHER FLEET WE
HAVE PUT ON OTHER FLEET OWNERS.
BUT RATHER.
THE DIRECTING AT GETTING AT A
LARGER PERCENT OF THEIR MILES.
TOWARDS ZERO.
CLEAN NOT EMITTING EITHER
POLLUTION OR GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS.
SO RIGHT NOW THE BILL BEFORE YOU
HAS THE AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE
HUNDRED PERCENT GOAL.
AND YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO
MOVE THE DATE SET UP ON THE
OTHER GOALS.
AND WITH TAT I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE.
THANK YOU HAVE.
AND MY OWN SUGGESTIONS. WE WOULD
PASSED A WONDERFUL BILL TODAY ON
RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
THERE SHOULD BE.
.
ANY OPPOSITION TO MAYBE HAVE
NATURAL GAS VEHICLES BECAUSE I
WILL THIS IS ZEV SO IT'S WE'VE
REACHED WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
ELECTRIC BUT IT'S WHATEVER. YEAH
CATEGORY VEHICLES ARE DEFAULT
ARE WITHIN CALIFORNIA'S ZERO
MISSION AND THAT WOULD BE
EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO DELINEATE
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S.
.
NUMBER ABOUT IT IS THAT THESE
ARE IT BE THE GOAL IS FOR Z. E.
ZEPCE NOT JUST ELECTRIC
AND THAT WOULD HELP.
LONG A LONG WAY IN AND ENSURING
THAT WE GET. A DIVERSE PRODUCT
ON THE ROAD THAT. GETS TO THE
SAME GOAL.
RIGHT AND SUMMER MARKS.
.
AFFORDABLE THAN OTHERS AND
OTHERS MAKE MORE SENSE.
WHEN YOUR LONG CALLING AND AND.
AND.
.
YOU KNOW UP TO HAVE LONGER TRIPS
AND USING A MORE MILES.
OKAY VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE.
.
MOTION CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
AND THAT'S.
THAT WOULD BE DO PASS AS
AMENDED.
THE PASS IS A MINUTE TO THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
HUESO I WAS SO I AM AROUND.
MORALE NO BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE
CANNELLA.
HERTZBERG.
HE'LL AYE HILL AYE MCGUIRE.
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE STERN
STERN AYE BIDAK. BY ACT NO
WIENER.
PLEASE.
STERN.
IF YOU READY OREO ALREADY
.
AT MY DISCRETION THEY RICHARD GOOD AFTERNOON
LONG DAY I'LL BE BRIEF.
.
MISTER WITH SP THIRTEEN THIRTY
NINE IF THAT'S ALRIGHT WITH
EVERYBODY.
UP FIRST IS ONE I THINK.
THANK STAFF THEIR ANALYSIS.
ONE EXCEPT THE AMENDMENTS TO
HELP WITH COMMITTEE STAFF.
I'M ADDITION THE COMMITTEE IT
AMENDMENTS
I'D ALSO LIKE TO STRIKE SECTION
THREE FROM THE BILL SINCE ONE
THAT COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
ADDRESSES ARE EQUALITY
OBJECTIVES ALREADY SUITS WERE TO
DISPLACE THE NEED THERE. TO LOOK
FOR TO CONTINUE WORK WITH ALL
STAKEHOLDERS IS THE ISSUE OF FOR
BUT CERTAINLY COMMITTEE FIRST OF
ALL.
.
AS WE HEARD THIS MORNING MANY
THREATS TO OUR GRID RESILIENCY
FACE WILDFIRES OTHER
CATASTROPHIC RISKS.
THIS BILLS THESIS IS THAT
MICHAEL GREAT YOU'RE CRITICAL
SOLUTION.
TO MAKING OUR GREAT MORE
LOCALLY RESILIENT.
WHEN YOU RELY ON A THE OLD
MODEL OF TRANSMISSION AYE WE
FIND OURSELVES HAVING TO.
DE ENERGIZED.
AND POTENTIALLY PUTTING VERY
VULNERABLE SITES AT RISK EITHER
VERY IMPORTANT MANUFACTURING
FACILITIES HOSPITALS
UNIVERSITIES PLACES WHERE A. OF
PEOPLE ARE BEING CARED FOR AND
SO WE THINK MICHAEL RESERVE
PROVIDE MORE DURABILITY WE WANT.
AN EXPEDITIOUS AND FAIR
PROSTITUTES SEE FOR BOTH A THIRD
PARTY OPERATORS AS WELL AS
UTILITIES TO HAVE A STAKE IN
THIS SHARED FUTURE A WITH THAT I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE.
HERE WITH ME TODAY I HAVE
INJURY TO VOTE WITH TECHNO AT.
.
I GUESS ALL REGGAE HE.
HOPE. A RESIGNATION.
SENIOR RESEARCH.
AT UC IRVINE.
RESPECT THIS RATHER.
AND I HAD THE LANEY HUNTER HERE
WHO NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION.
ALRIGHT WITH THAT.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M INTRIGUED
ABOUT VICE PRESIDENT I'M AT TECH
THAT. I HEAR IN PROUD TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF SENATOR STERN'S
MICRO GREAT RESILIENCY BILL S.
B. ONE THREE THREE NINE. OTHER
SPELLING COURAGE IS THE
DEPLOYMENT OF CALIFORNIA'S MOST
INNOVATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES
TO THE BENEFIT OF THE STATE'S
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND
TECHNOLOGY DEPENDENT SOCIETY.
I TECH AT REPRESENTS OVER EIGHTY
OF THE NATION'S LEADING TECH
TECH COMPANIES.
THIS IS A CRITICAL BILL FOR
MOVING FORWARD NOT ONLY FOR
CLEAN INNOVATIVE COMPANIES BUT
FOR THESE INVESTORS AND USERS
ARE OF THOSE TECHNOLOGIES.
CLIMATE CHANGE RELATED DISASTERS
ARE SOME OF THE GREATEST THAT'S
THREATS THAT WE FACE IN
CALIFORNIA.
MICHAEL GRABS AND THEIR ABILITY
TO PROVIDE ENERGY WITH OR
WITHOUT THE GRID IT WILL BE
CRITICAL A CRITICAL TOOL TO
IMPROVING THE STATE'S CLIMATE
RESILIENCY.
THESE RESOURCES WILL ALLOW
FACILITIES TO REMAIN OPERATIONAL
AND ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES
EVEN WHEN THE GRID IS DISABLED.
THIS IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT FOR
PROVIDING COMMUNITY RESOURCES
AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE
CAPABILITY BUT ALSOFOR ENSURING
THAT COMPANIES THAT DRIVE THE
ECONOMY OF THE STATE. CAN
PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR
EMPLOYEES AGAINST ECONOMIC
IMPACTS OF CLIMATE RELATED
EVENTS.
IN FACT MANY TECHNOLOGY
COMPANIES HAVE ALREADY DEPLOYED
MICROGRAMS TO PROTECT AGAINST
THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF GREAT
OUTAGES.
CAPITALIZING ON THE AVAILABILITY
OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES AND USING
THEM TO THE BENEFIT OF
CALIFORNIA IS JUST COMMON SENSE.
CALIFORNIA NEEDS EVERY
TECHNOLOGICAL EDGE AVAILABLE TO
SUCCESSFULLY MANAGE THE AFFECTS
OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE CALIFORNIA INNOVATION
ECONOMY HAS CREATED MANY OF THE
COMPONENTS OF A MICROGRAM. AND
WILL FOR FURTHER BENEFIT FROM
THEIR DEPLOYMENT SP ONE THREE
THREE NINE IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP
TOWARDS ENABLING INNOVATIVE
TECHNOLOGIES TO PROVIDE A
SOLUTION TO A SIGNIFICANT
CHALLENGE WE FACE.
RELEASE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
I'VE.
.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE AUDIENCE
WHO'S HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL IF I COULD JUST SHOW SOME
HANDS BICU SUPPORT BILL.
DO YOU SEE ANY OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL IN THE AUDIENCE WE
HAVE.
OKAY TWO SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION
OKAY.
PLEASE CONTINUE FOR.
PERSON OF CALIFORNIA IRVINE I'M
HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE SOME
TECHNICAL REMARKS.
AND ALSO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AS A WAY OF BACKGROUND AND MARK
REGRET IS.
A COLLECTION OF INTERCONNECTED
LOADS AND DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
RESOURCES IN AND CLOTHING
DISTRIBUTED GENERATION AND
CONTROLLABLE LOADS. IT SHOULD
HAVE A WELL DEFINED AND SPECIFIC
ELECTRICAL FOUNDRY. I SHOULD ACT
AND BE CONTROLLED AS A SINGLE
ENTITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IT
NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE BOTH
THINK WITH CONNECT THAT. AND I
ON THAT MOUNT. A UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA IRVINE WE HAVE A
FULLY FUNCTIONING MY PROGRESS
WITH A VARIETY OF RESOURCES
INCLUDING A MICRO GOOD
CONTROLLER. ARE A FEW MONTHS
BACK WE DEMONSTRATED A SEVEN
FIVE MINUTES I ON THE EVENTS
DURING.
WHICH THEY CAMPUS WAS
COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THAT
LARGER QUIT AND THE ENTIRETY OF
THE CAMPUS LOW IT WAS SUPPORTED
BY MICRO GRADS.
BEYOND THIS.
ISLAND THE CAPABILITY OF HAVING
A MICRO GRID HELPS THE CAMPUS
REDUCE ITS OPERATION COSTS.
AND.
ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE CAMPUS
COMMUNITY DURING OUTAGES AS WELL
AS PROTECTING MORE THAN. THREE
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF
FUNDED RESEARCH THAT RESIDES ON
THE CAMPUS.
FROM A BROTHER.
ARE INDEED PERSPECTIVE I'D
INITIAL EMPHASIS AND I
DEVELOPING MICROGRAPHS IS
INCREASED RESILIENCY AND
RELIABILITY SPECIFICALLY IN
SERVING CRITICAL LOW IT'S DOING
UNFORESEEN OCCURRENCES SUCH AS
NATURAL DISASTERS. WHICH IS
ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH A SEAMLESS
TRANSITION FROM GRIP CONNECTED
TO ISLAND THAT AND SUSTAIN
OPERATION AN ISLAND THAT MOUTH.
OF IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT
MIKE OVITZ ALSO HOW. INCREASE
THE EFFICIENCY OF OPERATION OF
THE ASSETS THUS REDUCING COST AS
WELL AS EMISSIONS AND A CAN HELP
INTEGRATE RENEWABLE RESOURCE
SAYS INTO GRAD.
A AS THE FREQUENCY OF EXTREME
WEATHER EVENTS AND DISASTER
INCREASE AS BECAUSE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE. THE VALUE OF THIS
INCREASE RELIABILITY AND
RESILIENCY THAT MARKOVITS OFFER
BECOMES MORE I'M CLEAR. US SINCE
IT BECOMES CRUCIAL TO.
ENSURE THAT THE CRITICAL
FACILITIES AND CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE ARE STARVED
WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION MAY
LEAD TO.
.
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND WITHOUT I
CONCLUDE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN PERSONALLY
HUNTER ON BEHALF OF THE CENTER
FOR SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND
ADVANCED MICRO GRID SOLUTIONS
AND SUPPORT THE BILL WE SEE
MICHAEL GRADES. AS A SOLUTION
FOR BOTH LARGE CUSTOMERS AND
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE BUT ALSO
FOR UTILITIES AS WE THINK ABOUT
HOW TO MAKE THEIR GREAT HARDENED.
OUGHT IN DEALING WITH CLIMATE
CHANGE GOING FORWARD THIS IS NOT
AN EITHER OR THIS ISN'T ALL WEEK
EVERY TECHNOLOGY AND EVERY
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A GREAT WORK
BETTER. AS WE FACE HOME. ONGOING
PROBLEMS WITH CLIMATE AND FOR
THOSE REASONS WE ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. YOU KNOW IF WE CAN
MAKE ROOM FOR THE TWO SPEAKERS
AT OUR.
OPPOSITION.
PATCHWORK AGAIN WITH A
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL WE HAD A. COUPLE INITIAL
CONVERSATIONS WITH AUTHORS
OFFICE IN AND WITH THE FOUR TO
WORKING WITH IMAGE ONE OUTLINED
REALLY BRIEFLY WHAT OUR CONCERNS
ARE. AND WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO
THE IDEA OF MICRO GRIDS AND OUR
MAIN CONCERN WITH THE BILL RIGHT
NOW IS A JURISDICTIONAL CONCERN
TO BILL AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED.
AND WOULD HAVE US EMITTING
PLANTS DIPPY YOU SEE OUR MEMBERS
INDEPENDENTLY LOCALLY GOVERNED.
ENTITIES AND AND WE DO NOT.
WE'RE NOT OVERSEEN BY THAT YOU
SEE SO WE LOOK FORARD TO
WORKING WITH OFFERED RESOLVED
THAT. THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
DOES SUGGEST AN AMENDMENT AT TO
RESOLVE THAT CONCERN WALK TO
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IT ALSO
SUGGESTED MANY PLANTS THE C. E.
C.. I WILL BRING THAT BACK TO
OUR.
.
AND MEMBERS FOR CONSIDERATION
AND DELIVER TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH AUTHOR AND THAT COMMITTEE
AS A BILL WAS FOR. THANK YOU
OKAY THINK ANYONE ELSE.
SHARE MEMBERS GREG COOK WAS
ANOTHER CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY.
OUR POSSIBILITIES PRESENT FORM
BUT CONTAIN TO WORK WITH THE
OFFICE OF BILL GOES FORWARD
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
NOT YOUR HERNANDEZ BEHALF OF
TURN OUT WE HAD A CONVERSATION
WITH THE AUTHORS OFFICE AND WE
SIMILAR LIKE THE A LETTER DONE
GOING OVER SOME THE ISSUE SOME
OF THE AMENDMENTS I THINK MAY
TAKE CARE OF SOME OF OUR
CONCERNS. ABOUT WE LOOK FOR HAVE
A CONVERSATION NEXT FEW DAYS OUT
TO GO OVERSEAS.
THE OTHER ISSUES.
EXCELLENT SOME MEMBERS.
ANYONE TO HAVE MOTION.
FROM THE BILL.
IF YOU WANT YOU.
GIVEN CLOSELY.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION DISTRICT.
WE HAVE.
HE WON MAKE A CLOSING COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED SAY AT. VOTE FOR
THE PO USE AND FOR TURN VERY
MUCH LOOK FOR DOING GAUGING I DO
THINK WE ADDRESSED.
THESE ONE OF TURNS ISSUES AND
FOR THE FOR THE P. O. USE AND
CPA AND AND AND THE AND THE REST.
I'M MORE HOPING TO COMMITTEES
AMENDED ADDRESS SOME OF THESE
THINGS BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T
WANT TO GET INTO A. AYE
JURISDICTIONAL AYE INTERVENTION
HERE THAT WOULD UNDERMINE YOUR
LOCAL PROCESS SO APPRECIATE THAT
ALL THE COMMITTEES WORK
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AT.
VERY GOOD A CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL.
THE.
MOTION IS.
.
TO PASS WITH WITH AMENDMENTS.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO THE RULES
COMMITTEE WEST SO I WAS SO I AM
MORALE. MORALE NO BRADFORD
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA HERTZBERG
HILL.
MCGUIRE.
SKINNER.
STERN.
BUT STERN AYE BIDAK WIENER BITE
ACT NO LEANER.
THEM.
WILL HOLD THE ROPE OPEN ON THAT
ONE.
MICHIGAN LAST YEAR.
NEXT BILL S. B. THIRTEEN EIGHTY.
AND I BELIEVE ON THIS ONE WE
HAVE NO OPPOSITION YOU CAN
SURVEY THE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION ON
THIS BILL.
ANYONE HAVE WELL IF YOU GUYS CAN
BE BRIEF.
IN OPPOSITION YEAH
WE WILL.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN.
.
WE NEED BETTER COORDINATION WITH
THE WAY WE SPEND CLEAN ENERGY
FINANCING DOLLARS IN THIS STATE
THERE ARE. INNUMERABLE PROGRAMS
IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH THE
TREASURER'S OFFICE E. C. GOBIZ
VARIETY OF OTHER.
ENTITIES WE WANT TO TRY TO FIND
A WAY TO.
CONSOLIDATE.
AT LEAST THE COORDINATION AND
TO MAKE IT MORE ROBUST PROCESS
FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO'S
COMING AND LOOKING A POOR
PRIVATE SECTOR CAPITAL WE THINK
WE GET A LOT MORE LEVERAGE OUT
OF THIS STATE DOLLARS WERE
MOVING INTO CLEAN ENERGY
FINANCING. WITH THIS KIND OF
CLEARINGHOUSE AUTHORITY I
SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF
OF.
ARE SUPPORTERS OF SILICON
VALLEY LEADERSHIP GROUP AND I
THINK WE'VE GOT A PEN HERE TODAY
AS WELL SO. I KNOW MA'AM IT'S A
PROPOSED BUT I'M COMMITTED TO
WORKING WITH THAT DAY COMMITTEE
GOING FORWARD SPECIALIST EQ HAS
AMENDMENTS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING
TO IMPOSE ON THE COMMITTEE WITH
A SHORT TURNAROUND TIME SO WE
HAVEN'T HAD THE ABILITY TO. HAVE
YOU ALL ANALYZE THEIR THEIR BILL
IN PRINT BUT.
THEY'RE PUSHING FOR HOUSING IS
WITHIN OFFICE OF PLANNING AND
RESEARCH WORK CURRENT
CLEARINGHOUSES ARE WERE WE'RE
GONNA OPEN TO THAT BUT WE LOOK
FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL WITH
THAT RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
THOSE.
DEMOCRATS VICE PRESIDENT FOR
ENERGY FOR THE SILICON VALLEY
LEADERSHIP GROUP IT'S BEEN A
VERY LONG DAY WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL I WILL SIMPLY SAY THAT. A
CALIFORNIA HAS OVER TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY AND CLEAN ENERGY INSTEAD
OF AN FINANCING PROGRAMS THEY'RE
MANAGED BY MORE THAN TWENTY
STATE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES
AND THIS BILL COULD HELP
COORDINATE ALL OF THEM.
WE WON'T SURVIVE
ON A PER IN CHAU IS ASIA PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENT NETWORK A PAN THINK
YOU'RE SAYING BEST FOR LAST.
WE PLEASE.
ANCHOR.
ENCOURAGING AYE VOTE THE BILL
YOU KNOW WORKS WITH MAKING SURE
THAT THERE'S PRIORITY FOR LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND FOLKS
LIVING IN DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES.
IT ALSO ENSURES IT THERE'S
OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS FOR WOMEN
AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES
LGBT
Q. AS WELL AS VETERAN BUSINESSES.
AND IT ENCOURAGES THE
DEVELOPMENT OF MULTI LINGUAL
MATERIALS FOR. AND PUBLIC ACCESS
FOR THOSE WHO MAY HAVE.
BE LIVING IN LINK
LINGUISTICALLY ISOLATED AREAS.
.
OR.
HAVE OR LIMITED ENGLISH
PROFICIENCY
WE APPRECIATE THE OTHER FOR IS
WORK.
THANK YOU.
COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT.
SYLVIA SOLELY SHOT BEHALF OF
ADVANCED ENERGY ECONOMY IN
STRONG SUPPORT.
ALAN GORDON ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATIC ENERGY AND THEY CLIMATE
FUNDS INITIATIVE A LONDON BASED
ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS WITH THE
UNITED NATIONS.
GREEN ON PRINCIPLES INSTRUCTED.
I MEAN TOLD ROBBIE HAPPEN BY MY
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT GIVE.
AND.
WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT.
THE AUTHOR IS WORKING ON
AMENDMENTS THEY'RE NOT.
GET AVAILABLE BUT.
THE COMMITTEE MAINTAINS
JURISDICTION OVER THOSE
AMENDMENTS AND F..
AND WILL WORK WITH THE AUTHOR TO
ENSURE THAT. DOESN'T NEED TO
COME BACK COMMITTEE BUT IF IT
DOES.
IT WILL.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
BILL MOTION.
CLICK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DO PASSED ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
COMMITTEE HUESO BY HUESO AYE
MORALE. MORALE NO BRADFORD
BRADFORD AYE CANNELLA. CANNELLA
AYE HERTZBERG AYE. HILL.
MCGUIRE SCANNER.
STERN.
STERN AYE BY THAT.
WIENER.
FOR.
FORTY ONE WILL LA KEEP THE ROLE
OF THE TRAPS AND MEMBERS.
TO CERTAIN SURGEONS COULD
PLEASE CALL ABSENT MEMBERS.
WE'LL GET THIS BUSINESS
FINALIZAR YOU GUYS AREN'T UP ON
ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
CAN WE CALL UP THOSE BILLS.
THE STERN BILL ON THIS WINTER
BILL.
TEN THIRTEEN.
THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE AND LATER
ON LE WIENER.
WAIT STERN IS THE THIRTEEN
THIRTY NINE OKAY.
LET'S THAT WE'RE GONNA DO
SCANNERS ARE CHEN FOR. TEN
FOURTEEN.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
AN SP TEN FOURTEEN SKINNER DO
PASSES AMENDED TO ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE
FIGHT TO CHAIR VOTING AYE VICE
CHAIR VOTING NO.
CANNELLA. CANNELLA NO HERTZBERG.
MCGUIRE.
WIENER.
VERY WELL WILL MOVE TO.
ITEM TEN. SP THIRTEEN THIRTY
NINE.
S. B. THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE STERN
TO AMENDED TO THE RULES
COMMITTEE.
KERN VOTE THREE TO CHAIR VOTING
I VICE CHAIR VOTING NO CANNELLA.
CANNELLA AYE HERTZBERG AYE
HERTZBERG AYE HILL. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER.
WIENER.
IT HAS.
SCANNERS COULD THAT IT TO NOKIA
IT OPEN AND SIX TO TWO WILL KEEP
THE ROLE OPEN.
IN REGARDS TO THOSE
REDISTRICTING WANTS TO REPRESENT.
AND MORRELL.
YOUR BILL ONE OKAY LET'S OPEN
THE ROLE ON S. B. FOURTEEN FORTY
EIGHT AND FOURTEEN.
DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
WITH THE COMMITMENTS HATE
AMENDMENTS IN APPROPRIATIONS FOR
ABOUT SIX ZERO MORALE.
WELL MORALE NO. HERTZBERG AYE
HERTZBERG AYE STERN. STERN AYE
BIDAK.
WIENER.
NEED TO ONE.
PERRANCE OFFICE HE WOULD. OF
HUNTERS AND HER FAMILY.
DO YOU WANT IT. MY WAY INTENSIVE
OKAY IT JUST DAWNED UPON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR.
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR THAT
WOULD BE ITEM.
ITEM ELEVEN.
AND SPEAKER ONLY. CONSENT
CALENDAR.
CLICK FISCALLY ABSENT MEMBERS
SP THIRTEEN FIFTY EIGHT WAYS OF
THE PAST APPROPRIATIONS CARVER
EAT ZERO BRADFORD. ON BRADFORD
AYE MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER.
AND ITEM NUMBER ONE ITEM NUMBER
ONE.
S. B. EIGHT NINETEEN PRECENTOR
HILL.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
DO PASSED YOU JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE FIVE ZERO
HUESO I WAS SO I HERTZBERG FIGHT
FOR QUIRK I. REQUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
SKINNER AYE STERN. STERN AYE
WIENER.
TO ARE S. B. EIGHT TWO TWO
WIENER. ITEM NUMBER TWO.
CLICK FISCALLY ABSENT MEMBERS
THE PASSES AMENDED TO JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE SIX
THREE HUESO HER CHAIR I. VICE
CHAIR NO BRADFORD ON.
BRADFORD I.
SKINNER.
SEVEN DIFFERENT CONSERVATIVE
THREE WILL KEEP THE ROLE OPEN
FOR IN THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
S. B. NINE ONE ITEM NUMBER THREE.
SENATOR DODD.
WE JUST HAVE ONE NEW MEMBER THAT
NOW SHE SKIPPED OUT ONE.
.
YOU ARE.
YOU DID.
RETIREMENT.
SAILORS ON LONG LARA.
SP ONE THOUSAND.
FOR THE UPSET MEMBERS GIVE HAS
IS AMENDED TO IT TRANSPORTATION
HOUSING COMMITTEE. BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE SKINNER.
BELIEVE THE DON'T CALL FOR
SKINNER SHE SKIPPED OVER THE.
EXCEPT SHARON BILL.
HIGH NUMBER FIVE SKINNER THE
SPEED TEN FOURTEEN.
THE PASS IS AMENDED TO
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
CURRENT VOTE FIVE THREE.
CHAIR VOTING I VICE YOUR VOTING
NO HERTZBERG FIGHT HERTZBERG AYE
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE WIENER.
HELLO LOOK IF THE ROLE OF PANOV
FULFILLS KIND.
ON ITEM NUMBER SIX
S. B. TEN TWENTY EIGHT. BILL.
THE PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS CARVE
OUT SIX ZERO HERTZBERG.
HERTZBERG AYE MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
AYE SKINNER.
STERN AYE STERN AYE WIENER.
HILL SIX TWENTY. HILL AYE.
SKINNER AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
I REMEMBER SEVENTEEN EIGHTY
EIGHT DOT.
OF CLICK FISCALLY ABSENT MEMBERS
DO PASSED TO GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE CAR VOTE
SEVEN ONE MORALE.
BRADFORD OR BRADFORD AYE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE.
DID HE COULD NOT TELL WILL CLOSE
TERM WE SEE WILL CLOSER ROLAND
THAT BILL.
I BILLS OUT.
NINE TWO ONE NINE TWO ONE.
ITEM EIGHT.
THE SPEED TEN NINETY BERMAN.
DO PASSED TO ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE
SEVEN ONE.
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE EYES SKINNER
SKINNER AYE WIENER.
OKAY WILL MAKE A WHOLE THE ROLE
OPEN.
ITEM NUMBER NINE SB ELEVEN SIXTY
NINE BY ANDERSON.
TAYLOR PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MINDED MAYOR HASSE'S AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE VOTE
SEVEN ZERO BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
SKINNER.
ANDERSON.
ITEM NINE ELEVEN NINETY NINE.
AND.
YES I.
SKINNER AYE WIENER.
OKAY YOU COULD OPEN.
WHEN.
OKAY.
WELL IN THE.
YEAH. ON ITEM NUMBER TEN STERN.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS SP THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE
CRIME VOTE SIX TWO CHAIR VOTING
I VICE CHAIR VOTING NO. HILL.
SKINNER.
STARTING WITH.
TEN. SB THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE
SKINNER AYE.
WIENER.
I ITEM NUMBER TWELVE CENTER HILL.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS SP THIRTEEN SANTEE SIX
HILL DO PASSED TO TRANSPORTATION
HOUSING CURRENT VOTE SIX ZERO.
HERTZBERG FIGHT HERTZBERG AYE
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE STERN STERN AYE
WIENER.
THOSE.
CLOSER.
OWNERSHIP ITEM THIRTEEN. AND I
KNOW WE NEED CLEAN.
WE'LL KEEP THE RULE OPENER ITEM
THIRTEEN STERN.
S. WORKPLACE COLLAPSE OF MEMBERS
SP THIRTEEN EIGHTY STERN DO
PASSED TO ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
COMMITTEE KERN VOTE FOR ONE
CHAIR RUNNING AYE ABOUT YOUR
RUNNING NO HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG
AYE HILL.
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE SKINNER
SKINNER AYE BIDAK.
WIENER.
WE.
FOR MORE.
AND I KNOW SPENT FOURTEEN FORTY.
I OWN. ANALYSTS WHO HAS. AND
HEAVILY ON THAT ONE THAT I WAS
OKAY.
AND THE FIRST WORDS I KNOW
FOURTEEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DID YOU DID YOU VOTE.
OKAY.
NO.
FIND ONE.
SEVEN IN MY LIFE.
SO I GUESS WAS CLOSER OF ITS
OWNER.
I LOVE IT BUT YEAH IF IT COULD
OKAY WAIT FIVE MINUTES AND. NOT
WILL PLAY A ROLE.
I KNOW I'LL TAKE YOU.
.
CLERK PLEASE CALYPSO MEMBERS SP
THIRTEEN FIFTY EIGHT.
SKINNER. SKINNER AYE.
THE BILL IS NOT WILL CLOSER ROLE
IN THAT BILL ELEVEN ZERO.
ITEM NUMBER ONE.
.
YES CLERK PLEASE CALL THEIR
MEBERS S. B. EIGHT NINETEEN.
CURRENT VOTE NINE ZERO SKINNER.
IN OUR AYE WIENER.
CLOSER ROLAND A BILL TEN ZERO.
ON.
ITEM NUMBER TWO.
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS S. B. EIGHT TWENTY TWO.
HER ABOUT SEVEN THREE.
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE.
WILCO WILL CLOSE ROOM THAT THE
LITTLE THREE THREE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE.
S. B. NANO ONE QUICK PLEASE CALL
THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
S. B. NINE ONE SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE.
THE BILL SO.
BILLS OUT TEN ZERO ELEVEN ELEVEN
IS THAT I. DON'T KNOW.
A A ROOM FOR. SP ONE THOUSAND
LARA CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS.
SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE.
LIVE IN THE BILL'S OUTLET ZERO.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
SKINER SKINNER AND SKINNER
YEAH.
DO YOU TO FINANCE THE.
THE FINAL VOTER SEVEN THROUGH
CLOSER OF.
I REMEMBER SIX SP TEN TWENTY
EIGHT BY HILL.
LET BILL LISTON ZERO CLOSE ROLE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SP TO MEDIATE
DOT.
THAT FINAL VOTE IS NINE TO ONE
CLOSE RULE.
ITEM EIGHT S. B. TURNED NINETY
VERMONT MEAN.
ARE THE FINAL VOTE IS NINE TO
ONE CLOSE ROLE.
ITEM NUMBER NINE I SP ELEVEN
SIXTY NINE BY AND ANDERSON.
OF THE FINAL VOTERS TEND TO ZERO
FOUR ZERO.
ITEM TEN BY STERN.
THE FINAL VOTE OF SEVENTY TWO
WILL CLOSE ROLE.
ITEM TWELVE BY HILL.
FIND VOTERS TO UNDESIRABLE
CLOSER ROLE.
ITEM THIRTEEN CENTER STERN.
THIRTEEN EIGHTY FINAL VOTE
SEVEN TO ONE CLOSER ROLE.
AN ITEM FOURTEEN.
S. B. FOURTEEN FORTY.
OF THE VOTE IS EIGHT ONE.
CLOSE RURAL.
WE ARE ADJOURNED