COMMITTEE HAVING A HEARING I
APOLOGIZE.
I SET THIS UP HEARING AT SP
TWELVE TWENTY TWO BY SENATOR
STONE FOR SPECIAL ORDER. BECAUSE
I WAS NFORMED THAT THERE WOULD
BE A NUMBER OF FOLKS TO TESTIFY
COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN I WANT
TO RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME. AND
I HAVE YOU SIT AROUND AND WAIT
THROUGH A BUNCH OF OTHER.
BILLS THAT WEREN'T RELEVANT OR
DIDN'T CARE ABOUT AND SO I WANT
TO GIVE YOU TIME UP FRONT THE
BEGINNING OF THE HEARING.
SO SOON AS SENATOR STONE GETS
HERE.
WE WILL.
COMMENCE THE HEARING ON.
SP TWELVE TWENTY TWO.
NDA PAPA JUST FOR PURPOSE OF THE
RECORD LET ME.
ANNOUNCE THE PROPOSED CONSENT
COUNTER FOR THE. THIRTY TWO
MILLION PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS
HEARING. FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR
IS PROPOSED FOR CONSENT THAT'S
S. B. ELEVEN TWENTY SIX. FILE
ITEM NUMBER NINE S. B. THIRTEEN
TEN IS PROPOSED FOR CONSENT.
PHONE
JUST A SECOND LOSES FOR. WHICH
IS PORTANTINO NINE SP THIRTEEN
TEN BY SENATOR MCGUIRE FILE ITEM
NUMBER TEN.
SP THIRTEEN ELEVEN BY SENATOR
BERRYHILL IN FILE ITEM NUMBER
FOURTEEN WHICH IS A NATURAL
RESOURCES AND WATERS COMMITTEES
BILL.
S. B. FOURTEEN NINETY THREE ALL
PROPOSED FOR CONSENT THAT BUT IF
ANYBODY'S HERE FOR THOSE
MEASURES.
OKAY FILE NUMBER ONE.
CENTER STONE.
GOING ONCE INFANTRYMEN WITH YOU
GUYS ALL CAME HERE FOR SENATOR
STONE DIDN'T SHOW UP YOUR BIG
TROUBLE.
HE LIKE ME TO GO TRACK I THINK.
HE'S ON THE WAY WE'RE TRACKING
WHICH I.
HE'S A GOOD MAN WOULD WILL WHICH
GIVE OUR TIME.
COMPETITIVE IN THIS LIFE SO.
AS IT HAPPENED.
GOOD DAY.
YEAH.
SORT OF BY THE TONE PRESENT THIS
BILL.
I. DON'T KNOW THAT A. LOT OF
PEOPLE I THINK YOU WOULD.
YOU WOULD.
IMAGES YEAH I WAS LEAVES OKAY.
NTSA AUDIENCE.
QUESTION OF THE PEOPLE HERE IN
THE AUDIENCE TODAY HOW MANY
PEOPLE THE FIRST TIME IN THE
CAPITAL JUST A CURIOSITY.
ONLY JUST GO.
WELCOME.
WELL TO GET OVER HERE FROM THE
FROM LAST YEAR
NUMBER TO USE YOU DON'T THREE
TWO YEARS THREE YEARS AGO WAS.
OKAY
IT.
SPECIAL ORDER.
SENATOR STONE.
IRAQ. COOPER. SPECIAL ORDER
.
YOU MAY PROCEED.
THANK YOU HONORABLE CHAIR. AND
MEMBERS
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE
UNFORESEEN REPERCUSSIONS OF THE
MISS DEFINITION OF SUCTION
DREDGING. HAS ENACTED BY S. B.
SIX THIRTY SEVEN ALMOST THREE
YEARS AGO.
S. B. TWELVE TWENTY TWO RE FINDS
THE BROAD DEFINITION OF SUCTION
DREDGING TO ACCURATELY CAPTURE
WHAT SECTION DREDGING IS WHILE
MAINTAINING THE SAME
REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CURRENT
LAW.
THESE UNFORESEEN REPERCUSSIONS
OF A BROAD DEFINITION OF CAUSE A
TREMENDOUS BURDEN. AN OUTRIGHT
HALT ON OTHER LOW IMPACT METHODS
OF MINING THAT HAVE NOTHING TO
DO. WITH SUCTION DREDGING. THESE
MINERS CANNOT APPEAL TO THE
WATER BOARDS TO THE FACT THAT
THE WATER BOARDS HAVE NOT WORKED
OUT THE GUIDELINES FOR MINORS TO
APPLY FOR PERMITS OVER THE PAST
TWO YEARS. THESE MINERS WHO ARE
DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE LACK OF
CLARITY HAVE BEEN FORCED EITHER
RELINQUISHED THEIR CLAIMS. THEIR
LIVELIHOODS OR FACE FINES AND
PENALTIES ARE TRYING TO WORK AND
PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
THE STUDY SURROUNDING MINING
USED TO BRING ABOUT THE CURRENT
DEFINITION TWO YEARS AGO
CENTERED ON SECTION DREDGE
MINING AND DID NOT INCLUDE THE
NUMEROUS.
ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF GOLD MINING
THERE WERE AND INTENTIONALLY
IMPACT IT. TO BE CLEAR THIS BILL
STRICTLY ADDRESSES THE
DEFINITION. OF SUCTION DREDGING
AND DOES NOT CHANGE THE PERMIT
REQUIREMENTS AS SET FORTH BY S.
B. SIX THIRTY SEVEN.
THE INTENTION OF THIS BILL IS TO
STRICTLY TO HELP ENSURE. THESE
OTHER METHODS OF LOW IMPACT
MINING ARE NOT BUNDLED UNDER THE
HIGH IMPACT METHODS OF SUCTION
DREDGING. TODAY I HAVE WITH ME
SHANNON PO FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT
OF THE AMERICAN MINING RIGHTS.
ASSOCIATION. THE AMERICAN MINING
RIGHTS ASSOCIATION IS THE
LARGEST SMALL SCALE MINING
ADVOCACY. ASSOCIATION IN THE
NATION. HOT TO ASIDE AS CRAIG
LINDSAY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE PACIFIC CREST ALLIANCE.
BOTH OF THESE MEN OWNING MINING
CLAIMS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
SMALL SCALE MINING FOR MOST OF
THEIR LIFES.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I WOULD
DOLLARS ENTERED THE MICE
WITNESSES.
.
WELL THANK YOU FOR THE TIME
TODAY.
I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO
EVERYBODY UP FRONT HERE ABOUT
THE RAIN TODAY BECAUSE I WASHED
MY TRUCK FOR THE FIRST TIME.
YESTERDAY AND OBVIOUSLY CAUSED
THAT SO I APOLOGIZE.
MY NAME IS SHARON POLL ON THE
FALSE FULL TIME SMALL SCALE
MINER HERE IN CALIFORNIA I'M A
MULTIPLE MINING CLAIM OWNER.
WHO PIECE PROPERTY LATER HE
JUST WANTS A CONCERT ONCE AGAIN
WE GOT A QUORUM ON ESTABLISH
QUORUM? SICK TO CALL THE ROLL
CENTERS HERTZBERG THERE
HERTZBERG HERE STONE. STONE HERE
ALLEN WHAT HE ALLEN HERE WAY SO
JACKSON MCGUIRE MONEY. MONNING
HERE STERN BUDAK. THAT PRESENT.
GOODWIN THANK YOU STRIP
DISRUPTION SITE.
AGAIN MY NAME IS SHANNON PO.
I'M A FULL TIME SMALL SCALE
MINOR IN CALIFORNIA. AND
MULTIPLE MINING CLAIM OWNER WHO
PIECE PROPERTY TAXES ON THOSE
MINING CLAIMS THERE RECOGNIZE
ISRAEL PROPERTY. AND I HAVE
DEEDS TO THE MINERALS IN THE
GROUND ON THOSE PROPERTIES LIKE
MOST ALL OF THE SMALL MINERS IN
ATTENDANCE BEHIND ME.
I'M ALSO PRESIDENT AMERICAN
MINING RIGHTS ASSOCIATION AND
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MOST
OF THE SMALL MINERS IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA.
SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THE FIRST
TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON SUCTION
DREDGING IN TWO THOUSAND NINE WE
ARE NOW IN ITS NINTH YEAR OF
THAT TEMPORARY MORATORIUM. MY
LIVELIHOOD IS BEEN SEVERELY
IMPACTED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO
SUCTION DREDGE.
I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT
SUCTION DREDGING BECAUSE THIS
BILL IS NOT ABOUT SUCTION
DREDGING IT'S A CLARIFICATION
BILL. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
THIS BILL IS NOT INTENDED TO
CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT SENATE
BILL SIX THIRTY SEVEN. IN
RELATION TO THAT LAW.
BUT SINCE THE PASSAGE OF SENATE
BILL SIX THIRTY SEVEN JUST A FEW
YEARS AGO IN ITS BIG LANGUAGE MY
LIVELIHOOD AND THE LIVELIHOOD OF
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OTHER SMALL
SCALE MINERS.
HAS BEEN FURTHER DEVASTATED TO
THE POINT OF THIS BEING A
PROHIBITION ON MINING.
BUT ALL FORMS OF SMALL SCALE
MINING.
THERE'S OVER TWENTY FIVE
THOUSAND MINING CLAIMS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. MOST OF
THEM PEOPLE PAY PROPERTY TAXES
ON. AND THEY'RE MOSTLY OWNED BY
ONE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THE
MAJORITY BEING SMALL MINERS.
GOLD IS THE PRIMARY MINERAL MIND
ON THOSE CLAIMS IN CALIFORNIA
WHETHER YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THIS
OR NOT HAS ONE OF THE LARGEST
GOLD DEPOSITS ON PLANET EARTH.
IT SOME OF THE MOST PURE GOLD
SOME OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GOLD.
I'VE EVER SEEN.
WE ARE CALLED THE GOLDEN STATE
BECAUSE OF GOLD COULD EVEN HAVE
A FOOTBALL TEAM ALTHOUGH NOT
REAL GREAT RIGHT NOW I'M HOPING
THEY GET BETTER.
NAMED AFTER THE GOLD MINERS OF
EIGHTEEN FORTY NINE AS WELL AS A
BASKETBALL TEAM.
GOLD IS A VERY VALUABLE NATURAL
RESOURCE TO CALIFORNIA AND TO
THE WORLD IT IS USED.
IT'S TRADED ITS BARTERED IT'S
WARM IT'S USED IN MEDICINE.
HEAVILY IN ELECTRONICS IT'S
BEEN USED FOR MONEY SINCE THE
BEGINNING OF THE HISTORY OF MAN.
IT'S NOT JUST USE FOR JURY IT'S
AN ESSENTIAL MINERAL AND
CALIFORNIA NATURAL RESOURCE THAT
USE FOUR. GOLD MEDALS.
THE BEST ACHIEVED THE HIGHEST
ACHIEVEMENT YOU CAN GET IN THE
OLYMPICS IS A GOLD MEDAL WEDDING
RINGS IT'S A SYMBOL OF PURITY.
OF UNITY IN A LASTING BOND
WATCHES IPHONES EACH IPHONE HAS
ABOUT FIFTY CENTS WORTH OF GOLD
IN IT.
COMPUTERS HIGH DEFINITIONS TV'S.
EVEN YOUR MICROWAVE CONTAINS
GOLD.
MONEY GOLD AS THROUGHOUT THE
HISTORY OF MANKIND BEEN USE FOR
MONETARY PERSON PURPOSES IT
STILL IS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
GOLD IS TIMELESS IT NEVER
TARNISHES IT ALWAYS REMAINS
BRIGHTON IS ONE OF THE BEST
CONDUCTORS OF ELECTRICITY THERE
IS.
MANY OF THE STATUES ARE ADORNED
WITH GOLD.
GOLD IS ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
THAT CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY HAS.
THE WORLD IS DEPENDENT ON GOLD
ESPECIALLY IN THE TECH INDUSTRY
AND HERE WE SIT ON.
TONS OF GOLD LITERALLY TONS OF
GOLD. THIS RESOURCE CAN BE MINED
EFFECTIVELY SAFELY.
WITHOUT DEGRADING THE
ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW THERE'S
CHILDREN AND WE'VE ALL SEEN THIS
ON TV IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.
USING MERCURY TO PROCESS GOLD
AND.
IT IT'S REALLY NOT A PRETTY
SITUATION IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
THIS MAY SURPRISE YOU ACCORDING
TO THE UNITED STATES GEOLOGICAL
SURVEY. EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE
GOLD THAT IS IN CALIFORNIA IS
STILL IN THE GROUND.
EIGHTY PERCENT.
SO THE OLD TIMERS DIDN'T GET AT
ALL SO HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THAT
REPRESENT WELL.
CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES ON THE
AMOUNT OF GOLD MINE IN
CALIFORNIA SINCE THE GOLD RUSH.
IS A HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN
MILLION OUNCES OF GOLD.
AT TODAY'S PRICES WHICH THIS
MORNING I WAS ABOUT THIRTEEN
HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS.
THAT'S A HUNDRED AND FIFTY
EIGHT.
BILLION DOLLARS.
SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE SEVEN
HUNDRED AND NINETY BILLION
DOLLARS WORTH OF GOLD STILL IN
THE GROUND IN CALIFORNIA.
NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE
SHOULD RUN OUT WITH GIANT
BULLDOZERS AND RIPPED DOWN THE
MOUNTAINS AND DESTROY OUR RIVERS
AND STREAMS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT HERE WE HAVE
ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY VERY
LOW PAY IMPACT OR VIRTUALLY ZERO
IMPACT SMALL SCALE MINING.
METHODS
TO OBTAIN THESE MINERALS.
THESE ARE THE SAME METHODS.
THAT S. B. SIX THIRTY SEVEN
CURRENTLY LISTS AS A SUCTION
DREDGE.
THESE THINGS TAKE PLACE AND NO
WHERE NEAR WATER DO NOT INVOLVE
FISH HABITAT DO NOT INVOLVE RE
SUSPENDING MERCURY AND HAS A
FOOT PRINT SO SMALL IT'S
COMPATIBLE TO PLANNING YOUR
GARDEN.
THIS IS NOW ILLEGAL UNDER THE
VAGUE DEFINITION OF SENATE BILL
SIX THIRTY SEVEN.
SO THE VAGUE LANGUAGE IN SIX
THIRTY SEVEN STATES ANYTHING
MECHANIZED OR MOTORIZED IS A
SUCTION DREDGE. IS SUBJECT TO
CONFISCATION FINES AND
CITATIONS.
WE'VE PROVIDED YOU WITH A SMALL
FOLDER HERE THAT EVERYBODY GOT
IN ITS A SERIES OF PICTURES.
BUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
EQUIPMENT.
MUCH OF WHICH YOU MAY ACTUALLY
HAVE IN YOUR OWN GARAGE.
THE COVER PAGE ON THIS HAS THE
GREAT SEAL OF CALIFORNIAN IF YOU
LOOK AT THE GREAT SEAL OF
CALIFORNIA.
YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE LOWER LEFT
HAND CORNER IS A PICTURE OF A
MINOR WITH THE ROCKER BOX.
THAT ROCKER BOX IT'S PICTURED ON
THIS GREAT SEAL COULD BE
CONSIDERED ILLEGAL IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA UNDER THIS VAGUE
DEFINITION.
AGAIN WE'RE NOT ASKING.
CHANGE SENATE BILL SIX THIRTY
SEVEN THAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
SUCTION DREDGING OR THE
CALIFORNIA WATER BORDER ANYTHING
LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT THE CASE
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO
THERE'S A VERY VAGUE DEFINITION
WHEN YOU SAY THAT ANYTHING
MECHANIZED OR ANYTHING
MOTORIZED.
IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING.
SENATE BILL SIX THIRTY SEVEN WAS
TITLED THE SUCTION DREDGE BILL.
AND IT WAS TITLED THAT FOR A
REASON IT WAS TARGETED TO
SUCTION DREDGING NOT GENERATORS
LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS
PICTURE HERE. NOT THE POWERED
WHEELCHAIRS THAT THE HANDICAP
USED TO TAKE THEMSELVES DOWN TO
THE RIVER AND NOT AIR
COMPRESSORS TO BREATHE
UNDERWATER WHILE SWIMMING IN A
POOL LOOKING FOR NOT GET STUCK
IN CRACKS. ITS INTENT WAS TO
HAVE THE CALIFORNIA WATER BOARD
EVALUATE WHETHER THEY WOULD
RECOMMEND A PERMITTING SCHEME
FOR SUCTION DREDGING WHETHER IT
WAS DEMAND AMISS.
AND WHETHER OR NOT THE SCIENCE
JUSTIFIED IT TO BE PERMITTED.
WE DON'T INTEND TO CHANGE THAT
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS BILL DOES.
IT WAS ALL ABOUT FISH AND FISH
HABITAT WAS SIX THIRTY SEVEN I
KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WAS HERE
EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY. ON
THE PASSAGE OF SIX THIRTY SEVEN
AND BEEN WORKING WITH THE
CALIFORNIA WATER BOARD SINCE THE
PASSAGE OF THIS BILL.
NO OTHER TYPES OF EQUIPMENT OR
EVEN CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME BUT
NOW THE CLAIM IS THAT THIS WAS
THE INTENT ALL ALONG. IF THE
INTENT WAS TO BAN ALL FORMS OF
MINING OTHER THAN PANNING.
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN STATED IN
THE BILL.
SO ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT THIS
IMPACTS WOULD HAVE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT. AT NO
TURN DURING THE PROCESS WAS
THERE A MENTION OF THESE OTHER
TYPES OF EQUIPMENT.
SO THIS IS EITHER INADVERTENT
AND CAN BE CORRECTED WITH SENATE
BILL TWELVE TWENTY TWO OR WAS
INTENTIONAL. AND POSSIBLY
DECEPTIVE.
BEFORE THE SUCTION DREDGE BAND
HAD THE MORATORIUM OF TWO
THOUSAND NINE A STUDY WAS
PERFORMED IN TWO THOUSAND SIX
AND FOUND THE SUCTION DRIVERS.
WHO COME TO CALIFORNIA FROM
OTHER STATES A LOT OF PEOPLE
COME FROM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY
TO MINE IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE IT
SUCH A? A WEALTHY DEPOSIT
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE
OUTSIDE THE STATE THAT ACTUALLY
ON MINING CLAIMS HERE. AS WELL
AS THE CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS.
SPENT UPWARDS OF SIXTY FOUR
MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR
PERMITS IN RESTAURANTS HARDWARE
STORES GAS STATIONS MOTELS IN
SEARCH OF THESE VALUABLE
DEPOSITS.
RURAL COMMUNITIES.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HERE IN
CALIFORNIA DESPERATELY NEED
THESE MINERS THEY RELY ON THIS
INCOME THEY RELY ON THIS REVENUE
AND WITH THIS BILL. THEY'VE LOST
THEM.
DREDGES ONLY REPRESENT A VERY
SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE MINERS
IN THE STATE WITH WHICH THE
LARGEST PERCENTAGE BEING THESE
OTHER TYPES OF MINING SUCH AS
HIGH BANKING AND I BROUGHT.
A SMALL.
RIGHT RIGHT SHOWS.
THIS IS A HIGH BAKER.
ALTHOUGH NOT MY FAVORITE COLOR.
WHAT THIS IS?
IS THIS IS JUST A SMALL DEVICE.
THAT YOU WOULD PUT UP ON THE
BANK.
WELL AWAY FROM ANY WATER IT'S
NOT IN A CREEK WE TYPICALLY RUN
THESE AS A WHAT WE CALL A
RECIRCULATION. SO YOU WOULD HAVE
A TUB OF WATER AND YOU TAKE A
SMALL SHOVEL IN YOU WOULD DIG
INTO THE DIRT AND YOU WOULD. PUT
THE DIRT FROM THE SHOVEL INTO
HERE IT HAS A PUMP THAT
RECIRCULATE WATER AND IT
SEPARATES OUT THE GOLD THERE'S A
LITTLE TINY SLUICE BOX IN THE
BOTTOM OF THIS DOWN HERE. AND
THAT'S WORK COLLECTS THE GOLD
THIS IS THE TYPE OF SMALL SCALE
OPERATION THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE
IMPACTED BY THE LANGUAGE IN
SENATE BILL SIX THIRTY SEVEN.
.
ARE THINGS LIKE A GENERATOR A
GENERATOR THAT IS USED IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
WHEN THE MINERS MINE IN BARSTOW
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOJAVE
DESERT IT'S A HUNDRED TWENTY
FIVE DEGREES DURING THE DAY SO
THEY GO OUT AT NIGHT. IN THESE
DRY WASHES WHICH ARE CONSIDERED
A WATERWAY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA SO THEY RUN A LITTLE
TINY GENERATOR YOU CAN GET A
HARBOR FREIGHT FOR NINETY NINE
DOLLARS.
THEY RUN THAT WITH THEIR LIGHTS
THAT TO WOULD BE CONSIDERED A
SUCTION DREDGE.
WE HAVE TO MINORS RIGHT NOW THAT
WERE REPRESENTING UP ON THE
TRINITY RITTER THAT.
.
DO TO THE VAGUE LANGUAGE IT'S
BEEN MISINTERPRETED THAT A
LITTLE TINY SLUICE BOX THAT YOU
TAKE.
A GARDEN SPOON AND SPOON LITTLE
GRAVELS IN THAT THAT MAN HAS
BEEN CITED FOR SUCTION DREDGING
HIS EQUIPMENT WAS CONFISCATED.
HE LIVES IN NEW YORK BUT OWNS A
CLAIM HERE HE ASKED TO COME BACK
ALL THE WAY OVER HERE IN
REPRESENT HIMSELF AND GO THROUGH
THE CITATION PROCESS.
JUST IN THE STATE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS THINGS
ON A SCALE THAT IS SO SMALL.
.
THAT IT REALLY DID DEFIES LOGIC.
BUT IT IS DONE IS IT'S MADE TO
SMALL MINOR A CRIMINAL UNLESS
THEY ONLY PAN FOR GOLD.
SO TODAY.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT THAT QUITMAN. SWEPT UP IN
THIS LANGUAGES DE MINIMUS.
HOW THIS BAGEL AND THAT LANGUAGE
IMPACTS THE NATURAL RESOURCES?
AND WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE.
AND WHETHER OR NOT SP TWELVE
TWENTY DO SHOULD BE PASSED TO
CORRECT THE ERROR OF THE SYRINGE
LANGUAGE.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY
IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT THAT A NEW
LAW WAS PASSED.
THAT HALTED THE OPERATION OF ALL
SEMI TRUCKS IN THE STATE.
BECAUSE.
THE LAWMAKERS FELT THAT DIESEL
EMISSIONS NEEDED TO BE FURTHER
STUDIED.
PRETTY VALID REASON BUT THE
LANGUAGE IN THE BILL WAS SO
VAGUE THAT IT LISTS ALL
VEHICLES.
MUST BE PARKED UNTIL THE STUDIES
ARE DONE NO MATTER HOW LONG IT
TOOK.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN CARS TRUCKS
VANS BUSES TRAINS EVEN AIRPLANES
WOULD BE PART.
SO WOULD WE THEN GO BACK TO THE
HORSE AND BUGGY. JUST BECAUSE
THE BIG LANGUAGE.
OF COURSE NOT.
S. B. SIX THIRTY SEVEN IS JUST
LIKE THAT ANALOGY FOLKS.
IT'S VAGUE IT'S UNFAIR AND IT'S
A PROHIBITION ON SMALL SCALE
MINING SO WE'LL PROBABLY HEAR
TODAY WELL YOU CAN STILL PAN FOR
GOLD. GOLD PANNING IS NOT GOLD
MINING THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL
DIFFERENCE GOLD PANNING IS USED
AT THE END OF THE MINING DAY.
AFTER YOU RUN SOMETHING LIKE
THIS YOU CLEAN OUT THE SLUICE
BOX AN YOU PUT THAT CONCENTRATED
MATERIAL IN A FAN AND YOU PAN
THAT OUT IT HAS NEVER. IN THE
HISTORY OF GOLD MINING BEEN USED
AS A METHOD OF MINING.
TELLING MINORS. PENDING IS THE
ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN MINE IS
LIKE TELLING A HOME BUILDER THE
ONLY TOOLS THAT YOU CAN NOW USE
TO BUILD A HOME IS A HAMMER AND
A HAND SAW.
WHAT KIND OF IMPACT WOULD THAT
HAVE ON THE INDUSTRY AND BRING
IT TO A HALL AND HAD DEVASTATING
AND RIPPLING RAMIFICATIONS LIKE
THIS ISSUE IS HAVE A SMALL
MINING? IT IMPACT THE RETAILERS
WHO SELL THE EQUIPMENT. NUMBER
RETAILERS.
MIDDLE CLASS WORKERS AND DESTROY
FEATURES OF FAMILIES THINKING
ABOUT SENDING THEIR CHILDREN TO
COLLEGE IT WOULD DEVASTATE THE
BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES WHO RELY
ON THOSE NATURAL RESOURCES FOR
THEIR VERY EXISTENCE. AND THIS
IS WHAT SENATE BILL SIX THIRTY
SEVEN IS DONE.
A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT
YOU'LL SEE IN HERE. THAT COULD
BE. LABELLED AS A SUCTION DREDGE
FOR THINGS LIKE A POST HOLE
DIGGER. THAT THEY USE A LOT IN
THE DESERT. THE IDEA IS TO GET
DOWN TO BEDROCK THAT'S WHERE THE
GOLD SETTLES AND.
AND IT'S BASICALLY WASH DOWN
THERE BY WATER SO THEY'LL USE A
POST HOLE DIGGER TO GET DOWN TO
THE BEDROCK MAYBE TWO OR THREE
FEET INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DIG
WITH A SHOVEL MUCH EASIER WITH
THE POSTAL BIGGER. THE POST HOLE
DIGGER WOULD BE CONSIDERED A
SUCTION DREDGE.
WE HAVE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WITHIN
THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. ARE TASKED
WITH ENFORCING LAW.
PASSED BY CONGRESS IN THIS STATE
AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE PUBLIC
LANDS IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO
INTERPRET THE LAWS. BUT THAT'S
WHAT IT'S COME TO.
THEY ARE INTERPRETED EYEING HAD
TOOK PARTING ITEMS SUCH AS A
SLUICE BOX WHICH I DESCRIBED
HERE'S A LITTLE TINY. BOX IN THE
BOTTOM OF THIS A HIGH BAKER.
THAT SEPARATES GOLD FROM THAN
THE REGULAR ROCKS.
THEY'RE INTERPRETING THAT AS A
SUCTION DREDGE WE KNOW THIS
BECAUSE WERE REPRESENTING THE
MAN THAT WAS WAS FINE CITED IN
HAD IS COP THERE IS EQUIPMENT
CONFISCATED. THERE'S ALSO A
MINOR LAST YEAR THAT A
DEPARTMENT EFFICIENT WILDLIFE
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TOLD.
THAT HIS HIS PICK UP COULD BE
DETERMINED. AS AIDING IN THE
PROCESSING OF HIS MATERIAL
BECAUSE HE DROVE IT TO THE RIVER
HAULING HIS EQUIPMENT AND THAT
TOO COULD BE CONSIDERED A
SUCTION DREDGE. THIS IS HOW
VAGUE THIS LANGUAGES GOTTEN AND
IT SHOULDN'T BE THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
JOB TO FORCE THEM TO INTERPRET
WHAT THE LAW IS.
SO.
THERE WILL LIKELY BE TODAY
ARGUMENTS
SUCH AS CULTURAL OR NATIVE
HISTORICAL SITES COULD BE
DISTURBED A SMALL SCALE MINING
IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE
IN THIS ROOM THAT IT IS
CURRENTLY A FEDERAL CRIME. TO
DISTURB OR ALTER NATIVE AMERICAN
HISTORICAL SITES.
S. B. SIX THIRTY SEVEN WAS NOT
DRAFTED TO MAKE IT MORE ILLEGAL.
IN CLOSING.
I TOLD WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY OF
MECHANIZED.
AND UNDER THIS VAGUE LANGUAGE.
A METAL DETECTOR.
COULD BE CONSIDERED AS A SUCTION
DREDGE IN IT'S KIND OF IRONIC AS
I WAS DRIVING OVER HERE. NOT
FORTY FIVE MINUTES AGO AND I
WENT BY THE LITTLE PARK DOWN
HERE AND THERE'S A MAN OUT THERE
WITH HIS SON.
AND HAD A LITTLE METAL DETECTOR
BY THE LAKE.
HE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION. OF THE
VAGUE LANGUAGE IN THAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED SUCTION DREDGING IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS A COMMON SENSE BILL.
SO AS WE SIT HERE TODAY
APPEALING TO A HANDFUL OF
SENATORS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
ON A BILL THAT IMPACTS HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE.
BUT ARE ASKING FOR RELIEF FROM
THIS VAGUE LANGUAGE WHICH IS
SEVERELY AND ADVERSELY AFFECTING
THEM THEIR FAMILIES. THEIR
LIVELIHOODS THEIR PROPERTY IN
THEIR LIVES.
THESE METHODS IN THESE TYPE OF
EQUIPMENT ARGUMENT AMISS.
THEY DON'T NEED TO US AS STUDY
ANY MORE THAN PLANNING A TOMATO
WOULD REQUIRE STUDY THEY NEED
RELIEF IN THIS CLARIFICATION
BILL. SENATE BILL TWELVE TWENTY
DO PROVIDES THAT. IT DOES NOT
ALTER THE SUCTION DREDGE BILL IT
DOES NOT HARM THE ENVIRONMENT
AND IT BRINGS SOME SIMPLE COMMON
SENSE TO THE BILL.
THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS
THIS REALLY SHOULD TRANSCEND.
ANY TYPE OF POLITICAL PARTY.
IT'S COMMON SENSE AND I URGE YOU
TO PASS TOLD TWENTY TWO ON
BEHALF OF THE MINERS THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH I. WANT
TO GIVE A LOT OF TIME TO US
SPECIAL POINT OF VIEWS AND YOU
HAVE OTHER WITNESSES YEARS
WEDNESDAY'S AND IF YOU DO. JUST
MAKE IT VERY VERY BRIEF AND ONLY
THINGS THAT ARE COMPETITIVE
THOSE ALREADY EXPRESSED IN THE
VERY DETAILED TESTIMONY GIVEN
THE HOUSE. OR SENATE TO SINGLY
AND AND QUITE WELL I.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE WESTERN
MINING ALLIANCE AND WE ALSO HAVE
A IF I ONCE HE THREE.
NONPROFIT TO HOME EDUCATE
PEOPLE ON HIS PUPIL MONEY
CALIFORNIA CALLED THE PACIFIC
CREST ALLIANCE.
I AM GREG LINDSAY.
UP THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD
AND AND HAVE BROUGHT A LITTLE
TOKEN I LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT.
THIS IS A DIAMOND JUBILEE. ARE.
FIFTY CENT PIECE.
PRODUCED BY THE U. S. MINT IN
NINETEEN TWENTY FIVE.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S TO.
THINGS ON THAT.
ON THE BACK IS BEAR AND UP FRONT
IS A HUMAN.
THE BEARS CALIFORNIA GRIZZLY
WHICH IS EXTIRPATED DISTANCE
THING. AND I'M HOPING WITH OUR
EFFORTS.
THROUGH THIS BILL THAT.
SMALL MIGHT. NOT GO THE SAME
ROUTE FOR GO THE SAME FATE.
THANK YOU SIR.
WHO KNOWS?
DOES IT NATIONALISM.
YES MY NAME'S MIKE WESTON TODAY
AND REPRESENT MYSELF AND MY
FAMILY IN TESTIMONY.
I WANNA THINK TO CHAIR THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL AND FOR SENATOR STONE
AND. ON THIS ISSUE.
.
MY SPECIAL INTERESTS AND I'M
USING THAT TERM. PERSONALLY AND
NOT IN A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION
TRANSCEND A LOT OF DIFFERENT
AREAS AND THAT'S HOW DIVERSITY
HERE IN CALIFORNIA IS FORMED.
.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN
RIVER COMMUNITY CHURCH AND MY
TIES AND OFFERINGS IS A MAN OF
FAITH GOOD TO DO GOOD WORK IN
THE COMMUNITY. AND THE MEMBER OF
AMARA AND MOVE THE MONEY I PUT
INTO AM I REPRESENTS MY SMALL
SCARE SKILL MINERS RIGHTS. I'M
ALSO A WHITE WATER RAFTING GUIDE
BULLS. PERSONALLY. AND
COMMERCIALLY WHEN MY OUTFITTER
FRIENDS NEED AN EXTRA GUIDE.
I DO RIVER CONSERVATION AND
RIVER CLEANUP WHICH IS NOT TO BE
TAKEN LIGHTLY AND NOT FOR
SOMEBODY WITH A WEAK STOMACH OR
WEAK GAG REFLEX.
THE AMERICAN RIVER AS IT FLOWS
THROUGH SACRAMENTO IS ONE OF THE
DIRTIEST RIVERS IN THE ENTIRE
STATE BECAUSE OF ALL THE ACCESS
POINTS THAT IT HAS. THE HOMELESS
PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST SEEKING THE
RIVER OF TO A PARTY.
WE'VE WE PULL OUT HUMAN WASTE.
A CAR BATTERIES CARP WORDS.
BOTTLES AND CANS.
ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THE YOU
COULD IMAGINE AS ME PERSONALLY
AS A CONSERVATIONIST.
AND ALSO MY INTERESTS ARE
REPRESENTED ON BY MY LOCAL UNION
SO TO SAY THAT I HAVE DIVERSE
INTERESTS IS. YOU KNOW IS
CORRECT.
THEIR HEADS IS A HISTORICAL
CONNECTION BETWEEN.
SMALL BUSINESS AND SMALL SCALE
MINING IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE
TO TOUR THE HISTORICAL AREA OF
COLOGNE AWARE. MARSHALL GOULD
DISCOVERY SITE IT IS
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS A
SIGN POSTED ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
YARDS UPSTREAM FROM WHERE THE
FULL FIRST GOLD WAS DISCOVERED.
AND THAT WAS A A SMALL BUSINESS
A GENERAL STORE AND THE PERSON
THAT OWNED THAT STORE WAS THE
VERY FIRST MILLIONAIRE IN
PICKS. LEVI'S GOLD PANTS AND AND
THE LIKE TO SMALL SCALE MINERS.
.
I ANTICIPATE THAT SOME OF THE
TESTIMONY HERE TODAY ON BY THE
OPPOSITION IS GOING INCLUDE.
APPENDING ENVIRONMENTAL
DISASTER IF THIS BILL IS PASSED
AND I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO PROVE
IT WITH SOME NEW.
SCIENTIFIC FACTS. FROM THE
OTHER THING THAT I THINK WAS
BOLD ABOUT THE OPPOSITION
LETTERS IS THAT THEY CLAIM THAT
THESE OTHER FORMS LIKE SHANNON
A.
DEMONSTRATED HERE OF SMALL SCALE
MINING.
WAS THE INTENT OF THE
MECHANIZED FROM LANGUAGE BEING
INCLUDED IN THAT AND I WANT TO
SAY THAT THAT CREATES A
DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. SO LET ME
GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
SO LET'S SAY THAT SOMEBODY IN
POWER WAS AN EXTREME VEGETARIAN
AND THEY WERE TOTALLY AGAINST
HUNTING. AND BECAUSE HE AMERICAN
EAGLE AS AN ICON OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA ANYTHING WITH
FEATHERS AND WINGS AND IF IT
FLIES LIKE AN EAGLE IT APPLIES
THE SAME PROTECTIONS WHICH WOULD
EFFECTIVELY.
TILL FALL HUNTING IN CALIFORNIA
AND IF THIS SOUNDS EXTREME I
BELIEVE THAT THE ORIGINAL.
A DREDGING BILLS THAT CAME OUT
IN TWO THOUSAND NINE MAY HAVE
BEEN A RESULT OF SOME VERY
SIMILAR TO THIS A DISPUTE
BETWEEN TWO LANDOWNERS. THAT
LIVE NEXT TO EACH OTHER ONE OF
WHICH DIDN'T APPRECIATE SMALL
SCALE MINING BUT DID HAVE
INFLUENCE OVER THIS LEGISLATURE.
AND THE OTHER ONE WANTING TO
EXERCISE THEIR SMALL SCALE
MINING RIGHTS. THAT. THOSE BILLS
PICKED UP MOMENTUM AND
EVENTUALLY GOT PASSED THROUGH
THIS LEGISLATURE.
.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT
COULD END UP HAPPENING AGAIN IN
THIS CASE IF THAT.
IN CONCLUSION. I GUESS I WANT TO
GO AHEAD AND STEREOTYPE MYSELF
I'M A CONSTRUCTION WORKER AND A
MINOR BUT I CAN COUNT TO FIVE.
WE NEED FIVE VOTES TO GET THIS
BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE ALRIGHT.
.
SCENARIO NUMBER ONE IS IF THIS
GOES DOWN ON PARTY LINES HE
EITHER NO VOTE.
OR VOTE NO AGAINST THIS AND WE
FAIL.
AND.
I LOOKED UP EVERYBODY ON THE
COMMITTEES A SCORE ON THE
CALIFORNIA CONSERVATION.
CALIFORNIA LEAGUE CONSERVATION
VOTERS WEBSITE AND ALL BUT THE
TWO REPUBLICANS.
AND ONE DEMOCRAT.
BOAST A HAND NINETY FIVE PERCENT
OR HIGHER RATING ON THE
CALIFORNIA LEAVE CONSERVATION
VOTERS WEBSITE SO. IF IF THEY
MAY BE CONCERNED OR NOT SO
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SCORE WE
MAY PICK UP A COUPLE MORE VOTES
BUT AGAIN IT'S STILL FAILS.
I HAPPEN TO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF
SITTING DOWN. ON THE RED CARPET.
DURING.
PRETEND THAT KINGS.
ACCEPTANCE SPEECH AS A NEW
PRETEND. AND I SWEAR BY GOD.
THAT. I LOOKED OVER AT SENATOR
STONE. WHEN SHE WAS TALKING
ABOUT REACH ACROSS THE AISLE AND
PASSING LEGISLATION THAT WAS
MEANING FOR. A HOME AND NOT
PARTISAN AND THINKING THAT
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT TWELVE
TWENTY TWO. IS ABOUT SO IF WE
CONSIDER THAT. NONPARTISAN
MEANINGFUL LEGISLATION AND
COMING TOGETHER NOT JUST FOR THE
FEW AND THE PEOPLE IN POWER BUT
TO AFFECT ALL OF PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA THIS BILL IS GONNA
FLY OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE. MAYBE
WITH ONE NO VOTE AND I DON'T.
I'M NOT SAYING OR HOLDING
ANYTHING AGAINST A SENATOR ALLEN
FOR NOT VOTING AGAINST.
ARE NOT VOTING FOR A BILL THAT
THAT WOULD TOWN REREGULATE HIS
ORIGINAL LEGISLATION BUT I JUST
CONSIDER THAT TO BE A POTENTIAL
FACT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
THOSE THE IT FOR THOSE AND
SUPPORT OTHER PEOPLE HERE IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE TODAY.
FOR THOSE WHO IN SUPPORT IF YOU
CAN IF YOU COME UP TO THIS
MICROPHONE RIGHT HERE.
THEY JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND
STATE WITH YOUR SUPPORT OF THE
MEASURE. YOU KNOW IF YOU
REPRESENT ORGANIZATION THEN MOVE
ON THIS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A
LOT OF PEOPLE COMING UP. IN JUST
TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS YOUR
SUPPORT AND THEN QUICKLY MOVE
ON.
SO WE GET GET HERE EVERYBODY
ELSE OKAY BUT SIR GOOD AFTERNOON
MY NAME IS KEVIN HOAGLAND NO NO
NAME AND SUPPORT WE GOT THE
MESSAGE OUT HERE WE DON'T TIME
JUBILEE'S UP. HIS NAME IS KEVIN
HOGAN I AM THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THE
GOLD PROSPECTORS OF SUCH.
ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA AND I AM
IN SUPPORT OF SB TWELVE TWENTY
TWO THANK YOU KIND SIR WE SHOULD
MUCH.
IT JAMES HUTCHINGS PRESIDENT OF
THE SACRAMENTO CHAPTER GPA GOLD
PROSPECTORS ASSOCIATION OF
AMERICA ALSO REPRESENTING THE
SMALL GOLD CRAFTERS WE RELY ON
THE GOLD FROM THESE RIVERS TO DO
OUR CRAFT THANK AND WORD
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR.
MY NAME IS ROBERT GUARDIOLA I'M
THE PRESIDENT THE DELTA GOLD
DIGGERS WHICH IS A LOCAL
ASSOCIATION DESIGNED TO.
TEACH NEW AND EXISTING MEMBERS
FOR. THE BENEFITS OF GOLD
PRODUCTION AND. IN MINING I'M
ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE
AMERICAS A MINING DISTRICT WHICH
IS ONE OF THE LARGEST MINING
DISTRICTS IN CALIFORNIA.
HOW WE SUPPORT THIS BILL BUT FOR
MANY REASONS AND I THINK THAT
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS JUST
ISN'T ABOUT GOLD?
THIS IS ABOUT MINERALS. THIS IS
ABOUT RARE EARTH MINERALS THE
SPOT TRACE MINERALS. THIS
AFFECTS NOT JUST THE GOLD MINERS
YOU SEE HERE IN THIS ROOM. BUT
IT AFFECTS
THE ROCK.
.
THE ROCK COUNTS IN AND ALL THAT
KIND OF THING THANK YOU ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT I REALLY WANT TO
SAY IS THAT AFFECTS LOCAL
BUSINESS I'VE SEEN MANY MANY
BUSINESSES GO OUT OF. OUT OF
BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE SIX
THIRTY SEVEN. AND THE WAY IT'S
DESIGNED THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR
THANK YOU.
SORRY MY NAME'S GARY SHAVER I'M
REPRESENT PIONEER MINING THE
MOTHER LODE GOLD FOUND SADDAM
AUBURN.
AND I AM THE CURRENT NEW
DIRECTOR OF THE NUGGETS WITHIN A
MONTH.
MOTHER ALL GOLD TOWNS IN MY
PURPOSE IS TO TEACH THE NEXT
GENERATION BEAR IN MATH COLD.
TRAINING ON HOW TO PROSPECT OUR
OUR STATE DID RIGHT WAY AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
I MY NAME IS ROB MOJAVE AND I'M
A MEMBER OF THE GOAL TO HELEN'S.
THE UP AND AUBURN. AND.
A PROSPECTOR. BUT PROSPECTING
FOR US SEVEN YEARS.
AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE MUCH.
I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE STEVE
THURMOND THE BOARD MEMBER OF
AMARA. AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS ROBERT SAMAEL JUNIOR
I'VE FROM SHARES CALIFORNIA.
I'M A MEMBER OF GPA A STOCKTON
BRANCH.
I WORK SHAMAN LASH LE NOW I JUST
WANT SOME FREE TIME TO YEARS OF
GOLD PANNING.
I YEAR TAKEN AWAY OUR RIGHTS AND
I WANT TO BACK.
THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS MELISSA HERNANDEZ FOR
MADERA COUNTY AND I'M A FORMER
ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATOR LIFELONG
CONSERVATIONIST I SUPPORT ONE
TWELVE TWENTY TWO AND I AM ALSO
ON THE BARD OF AMARA. THANK YOU
MA'AM.
HI JOHN SIT TROUT SACRAMENTO
COUNTY.
SMALL SCALE MINER AND I'M IN
SUPPORT OF FIVE TWELVE TWENTY
TWO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
P. FERNANDES COURSE CALLED
CALIFORNIA BY ME SMALL SCALE
MINOR.
THEN AIMS SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.
ELIZABETH ESPINOSA ON BEHALF OF
THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT OF CENTER
SINCE BILL THINKING THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OF HIM.
BIG DEAL. UNTIL MYRON ON THE
BORDER DIRECTORS OF EAST BAY
PROSPECTORS CONCORD CALIFORNIA.
REPRESENTING ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
MEMBERS AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU SO
VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
I MARVIN TALBERT.
A MOVIE VICE PRESIDENT OF A
CHAPTER OF THE GP A HIGH I'M
ALSO CLAIM OWNER HERE IN.
IN PLUMAS COUNTY.
AND OVER THE PAST NINE YEARS.
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE MY CLAIM.
IN A WAY THAT I'D LIKE BUT.
WITH THIS DIFFERENCE IN TWELVE
TWENTY TWO IT WILL ALLOW M TO.
AT LEAST.
TRY AND AND BE ABLE TO.
RECOVER SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
YOUR PICTURE MUCH.
THANK YOU.
I CONSIDER BRICK SHELL FOUR FROM
STOCKTON CALIFORNIA. SALZEDO
MINOR. OF MEMBER OF AMARA. CLAIM
OWNER AND I STRONGLY URGE.
THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.
A JOHN MALING I'M A MEMBER OF
AMARA MEMBER VOCAL PROSPECTORS
ASSOCIATION MEMBER OF COURSE
GOLD PROSPECTORS. MEMBER OF
UNITED PROSPECTORS.
I LIKE DOING PROSPECTING ALIKE
DO IN SMALL SCALE MINING AND I
SUPPORT THIS. THIS ISSUE THANK
YOU KIND SIR.
BUT I DON SIEGEL RECENT VIDEO
WAS THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED
PROSPECTORS THE OLDEST
PROSPECTING ORGANIZATION AND NOT
STATE CALIFORNIA. AND I SUPPORT
A TALL TWENTY TWO THANK YOU
SURVEY MUCH.
TEAMING UP RIGHT I'M I'M A
MEMBER OF AMARA. THE GOAL HOUNDS
AND.
THE GPA. AND.
I SUPPORT ONE TWENTY TWO. THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR.
HELLO I'M JOE LYNN RATHER SOME
SMALL MINOR. PA LIMON
INGREDIENTS OR I SUPPORT S. B.
WHEN TWENTY TWO CREW.
A. SUBWAY FROM BUT I'M FROM
VACAVILLE OKAY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MA'AM VISION MUCH THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE ALPHA.
MY NAME IS JAMES RN'S FROM
COLFAX CALIFORNIA ON THE SMALL
FEEL MINOR AND I SUPPORT S. B.
TWELVE PUT INTO A KIND SIR THANK
YOU BEEN HERE.
IAM AT PRIESTS FROM THE BAD
ACCOUNTING SMALL SCALE MINOR
HAVE TAXPAYER PROUD AMERICAN I
SUPPORT TWELVE TWENTY THANK YOU
KINDLY.
SHANE SAY COME SANTA CRUZ
CALIFORNIA UNITED STARTS AT NOON
UNITED STATES ARMY VETERAN ON
THE SMALL SCALE MINER AND
APPRECIATED IF WE GET OUR RIGHTS
BACK. BACK IN LINE WITH WHAT WE
NEED TO DO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR ISSUE
HERE THANK YOU IS SERVICES MY
NAME IS RICKY LAKE YOU HUH MY
FAMILY'S OWNED OPERATED A AND
BILL RYAN CAN'T MINING COMPANY
IN A AMADOR COUNTY FOR THE LAST
SINCE NINETEEN FIFTY.
WE SUPPORT THIS BILL WE SUPPORT
AMARA.
FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO FOR US
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SIR.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
MICHAEL STEELE FROM TO ALL ME.
I'M ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT DR
GOLD DIGGERS GPA CHAPTER
STOCKTON CHAPTER. A MUSCLE
TWENTY FIVE YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
I HAVE SEEN.
POLICY CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN
MISINTERPRETED I BELIEVE THAT
SIX THIRTY SEVEN IS BEING
MISINTERPRETED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WE NEED
THIS CHANGE SENATE BILL TWELVE
TWENTY TWO. I HAVEN'T SUPPORT
PLEASE THANK YOU SIR WHAT WHAT'S
WHAT MEL WHICH SERVICE. CHALFORD
PARKER ACTION HERE THAT TAKE.
THANK YOU.
SOME BODY STILL AND THE
SECRETARY FOR ADULTS A GOLD
DIGGERS A CHAPTER OF EPA OUT OF
STOCKTON. I AM FROM SWALLOW ME
COUNTY AND IN SUPPORT OF TWELVE
TWENTY TWO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING A MAN.
MY NAME IS MIKE AND DORNOCH I AM
A.
MEMBER BAMBRA I'VE BEEN A GOLD
MINER.
SMALL. THAT TIME GOLD MINER. OF
FOR THE LAST FORTY THREE YEARS
BUT FIRST OF ALL OFF I'M A. S.
STAUNCH ENVIRONMENTALIST.
AND I. I I. PLEAD THAT YOU DON'T
TAKE AWAY. ANY OF THE TOOLS THAT
WE NEED TO EXTRACT.
THE LED THE MERCURY AND THE
OTHER HAVE YOU METALS FROM OUR
ENVIRONMENT.
HI DO THAT NOT ONLY THAT BUT I
CARRY THE.
A LOT OF TRASH OUT THE CANYONS
EVERY YEAR.
I AM A. GOLD MINER AND I AM AN
ENVIRONMENTALIST AND I SUPPORT.
SENATEBILL THOUGHT TWELVE
TWENTY TWO BANK THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OF BENICIA.
IT I'M TONY SANCHEZ I'M FROM
MARIPOSA COUNTY AND CALAVERAS
COUNTY MARI FAMILY HAVE BEEN IN
THE MINING DIVERSIFY.
CAN REMEMBER AND I WAS SAD MY
FIRST MINING CLAIM WHEN I WAS
EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD.
AND MY FAMILY IS HERE IN THE
EIGHTEEN THIRTIES AND THAT ONE
OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THEY DID
WITH GOLD MINE TO RAISE CATTLE.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY MADE THEIR
LIVING MOST OF OF BY MY NAME AND
THAT'S WHAT I DO TO.
YEAH I'M FOR THIS BILL FOR
MONTHS WHATEVER SHAM AND WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE I'M WITH THEM
BEHIND HIM.
HAVE LONG DAM UP LONGER THEM
MINERS ASSOCIATION REPORTS FOR.
THOUGH.
HOPE YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU SIR.
THERE ARE.
HI MY NAME IS JEFF DAVIS AND I'M
FROM MODESTO AND I HAVE MULTIPLE
CLAIMS IN MARIPOSA COUNTY I'M
ALSO A MEMBER OF CAMERA.
THE DELTA GOLD DIGGERS A GPA A
COMSTOCK MULTIPLE DIFFERENT.
MY NAME.
ORGANIZATIONS AND I DO SUPPORT
S. B. TWELVE TWENTY TWO THANK
YOU KINDLY.
PLACE ONE OF.
AS YOU AND MONEY THEIR GILMOUR
ON THE FIRE PROTECTION
CONTRACTOR IN CALIFORNIA. AS
WELL AS A FOUNDER OF PLACER
COUNTY GOLD MINERS.
I HAD MULTIPLE CLAIMS IN THE
STATE NOW ABOUT A HUNDRED
PERCENT SUPPORT A BILL S. B. ONE
TWO TWO TWO. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
MY NAME'S RICHARD NEAT PRESIDENT
OF THE EMORY SOURCE GROUP OF
CALIFORNIA RECOGNIZE CORPORATION
SMALL BUSINESS AND A WOMAN OWNED
BUSINESSES WELL WE'RE JUST IN
FULL SUPPORT OF THIS GROUP. OF
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH OUR
ACTIVITIES ARE INVOLVED IN THE
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
THE EMISSIONS CONTROL INDUSTRY
AND MINING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CUSHION.
SIR. I MY NAME IS AUSTIN
HARDWICK COME FROM SAN JOSE
CALIFORNIA SENATOR COUNTY. AND I
SUPPORT SP TWELVE TWENTY TWO AS
WELL AS AMBER.
THANK YOU SIR.
I. THINK. I'M A TRUSTEE SIMPSON
THEM FROM A CALAVERAS COUNTY
STRONG SUPPORTER OF AMARA.
.
I'M ALSO WATER PERCENT DISABLED
VETERAN. AND.
.
YOU KNOW AYE USEFUL SKILL MINE
TO SUPPLEMENT MY INCOME.
AND I'M NOT ALONE IN THAT AND.
I REPRESENT QUITE A FEW. MY
VETERAN FRIEND SO. HE OUT THIS
BILL THE I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE THIS WOULD ACTUALLY
HELP A SUPPLEMENT THAT LITTLE
INCOME THAT WE DO HALF SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR
THANK YOU FOR SERVICE TO VERY
MUCH.
A KEVIN BELL AND THE STATE
DIRECTOR CALIFORNIA STATE
DIRECTOR FOR THE GPA A. HOT
SECRETARY THE MARIPOSA MINING
DISTRICT AND I'M ALSO A.
A MINING EQUIPMENT SUPPLIERS
SNAKE RIVER PRODUCTS AND WOOD IN
SUPPORT OF SB TWELVE TWENTY TWO.
THANK YOU SIR VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS JACKSON AYE I'M FRESH
AND ORATION MINOR. MY DAUGHTER
MACY SHALL BE SECOND GEN SO.
AND WE SUPPORT IT AS PEACE PARA
TWELVE.
POINT IT.
MAYBE MAYES.
BUT AMAZINGLY THANK YOU FOR
COMING MAY SEE.
HI MY NAME IS JACK JOHNSON
SONORA CALIFORNIA I AM AND
REMEMBER MULTIPLE CLAIM OWNER
AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
TWELVE TWENTY TWO AIMS JOHNSON.
FAMOUS NAME.
YEAH MEETINGS WITH KIMBERLY FROM
COURSE CALL CALIFORNIA I GREW UP
AROUND.
THERE MY WHOLE LIFE. GOLDS BEEN
PART OF THE WHOLE TOWN KNOWS THE
WHOLE WAY HE WAS ORIGINALLY
CAME.
I THINK MY KIDS GOT MINING.
THEY REALLY LOVE IT AND I JUST
HOPE THAT.
WE CAN CONTINUE THIS IS YOUR
GENERATIONS TO COME. THANK YOU
SIR VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S DOUG MURRAY.
NUMBER MANGELS COUNT THEM
CALAVERAS COUNTY.
AMEND MINING OFTEN ON ALL MY
LIFE I'M EIGHTY THREE YEARS OLD
ON RUN OUT OF TIME NOT LIKE TO
GET BACK TO WORK.
I AND I SUPPORT AS PAGE TWELVE
TWENTY TWO THANK YOU THANK YOU
KIND SIR.
YES MY NAME IS CINDY WIGGINS AND
I'M FROM SANTA ROSA AND I'M A
SMALL MINOR AND I'M IN THIS
SPORT SP. TWELVE TWENTY TWO
THINKING BUT YEARS WILLIAMS.
MY NAME IS RICK LARSEN AND FROM
BACK VOTE CALIFORNIA I'M A
VETERAN AND A SMALL SCALE Y.
MINOR A MEMBER GPA. AND A GOLD
HOUSE.
THANK YOU SIR AND CLICK YOU
RESERVISTS THANK YOU.
ONE AIMS GARY WILKINSON FROM
SANTA ROSA CALIFORNIA AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
MARK BELLES I'M FROM FACT BILL
CALIFORNIA.
I AM A. FULL MEMBER. GPA AND.
A LOS DUTCHMAN'S MINING
ASSOCIATION AND AMBER AS WELL.
AND A BEEN MINING PRETTY MUCH MY
ENTIRE LIFE.
AND I JUST WISH YOU GUYS COULD
HELP US OUT AND. GET A SOCIETY
AND SWEET ONE TO TWELVE.
TWENTY TWO BACK. THINKING.
THANK YOU.
AND THE US.
YES I'M DONKEY TOM HAS SIMILAR
FROM LOCK FOR CALIFORNIA. FORMER
OWNER OF TOM'S MINING SUPPLIES.
AND AM PERSIAN PRESENTLY SIT NOT
ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
WORTH OF EQUIPMENT THAT I CANNOT
SELL AND.
CALIFORNIA.
.
BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS.
PUT UPON BY SIX THIRTY SEVEN HAS
CREATED BASICALLY ABOLISHMENT OF
MINING OPERATIONS FOR LOTS OF.
SMALL SCALE MINERS IN THE STATE.
THE.
.
HOPE IS THAT.
TWELVE TWENTY TWO WILL GIVE US
SOME REASONABLE.
INFORMATION THAT THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE CAN GO BY
AND.
.
AND THIS MESS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU SIR THANK FOR
BEING HERE.
BUT IT IS CHAD BRITAIN OUT OF
SACRAMENTO MOST MOSCOW MINOR
AND.
I SUPPORT THE BILL AND I THINK
YOU ALL FOR LISTENING.
PICTURE.
MY NAME IS JEFF MCCULLOUGH FROM
THE DISABLED THAT.
I PUT MY KIDS THROUGH COLLEGE
BY MINE AND AND. MY GRAND KIDS
NOW THROUGH IF I CAN GET BACK TO
MINE TO PLEASE SUPPORT A CLIP
TWENTIETH PRODUCER AND THANK YOU
SERVICE APPRECIATE VERY VERY
MUCH.
MA'AM.
MARILYN CHAIR ESSENCE IN SQUAW
VALLEY. AND MEMBER OF AMARA AND
CENTRAL VALLEY PROSPECTORS OF
FRESNO.
AND SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
I'M LAW BAR DANFORD I'M A
BATTLER JUICE IN MINING
ENGINEERING BEEN AND.
CONSTRUCTION AND MINING FOR
OVER FIFTY YEARS AND I'M AND
SUPPORTIVE OF TWELVE TWENTY TWO
THANK. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS SCOTT COMMON I'M FROM
AMADOR COUNTY AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL.
THANK YOU SIR.
I MY NAME'S EDWARD ELLISON FROM
AUBURN CALIFORNIA RETIRED AND I
DO SMALL MINING AND.* LET.
THANK YOU SIR.
RAINY HARRELSON PROGRAM AND
THEY'RE TOTALLY SUPPORT THE BILL
TWELVE TWENTY TO GO THANK YOU
ANY.
MY NAME IS KEITH WALKER OPEN
SONORA AND ONE OF THE LITIGANTS
INSANE MEDINA WHICH YOU KNOW WAS
ABOUT READY TO COME TO AN END.
AND WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE
FEDERAL COURTS HERE.
AND.
USES A THIRTY DAY NOTICE THOSE.
DENTISTS WHO IS GOING T SERVE
ON WATER QUALITY BOARD FISHING
GAME OF THE STATE.
ONE OF THE.
BECAUSE OF HERE IS VOIGTS
PORTABLE STATUES FOR.
FOR VAGUENESS INFO OVER BREATH
AND UNCERTAINTY SOLELY AUDEN
MIND IF YOU TAKE ONE A CAUSE OF
ACTION OFFER THIS THING.
THE WHOLE.
THE LEG WAS TO OCCUR.
CONNIE CLEMENT SOME FROM SAN
LUIS OBISPO COUNTY AND I AM.
MIGHT QUITMAN OF CHOICE IS A
GOLD DETECTOR AND WITH THIS BILL
I WILL NOT LONGER BE ABLE TO
VOTE TAPPED ELLIPTICAL DETECT.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
THEY ITEMS CURRENT JOHNSON FROOM
RESO I SUPPORT THE BILL.
WILLIAMS JOHNSON.
I'M ROBERT COULDN'T LOG ON A.
COME FROM BENICIA CALIFORNIA.
AND.
I'VE.
WAS IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER
FEEL FROM HER FORTY TWO AND A
HALF YEARS FOR RETIRED.
AND AFTER RETIREMENT.
KONG I. THAWED WANTED TO BE A
GOLD MINER.
AND OF. BUT THAT WAS ABOUT.
GENERAL LIVING YEARS AGO.
AND BECAUSE.
OF COURSE SIX THIRTY SEVEN CAME
IN AND STOP THIS.
WHO'S FROM GOING OUT THERE AND
BEING A SMALL MINOR.
BEHIND EVER.
REALLY BECAME A SMALL MINOR
TRAITOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN IN A
LITTLE BIT.
I OF HOLD CERTIFICATION.
AND WATER RELATED SUBJECTS HAS
COMMUNITY COLLEGE FUTURE.
AND DOG HIGH HAVE AN ASSOCIATE
DEGREE AND NO BUSINESS
ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT.
AND.
BASICALLY.
I'VE.
BOB BEEN IN THE WATER AND
WASTEWATER FIELD.
DURING MY ENTIRE CAREER AND.
WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY GO ON
TO THIS MONTH TYPE MINING? THERE
NOT DAMAGING ANYTHING HIGH CAN
TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW THANK
YOU SHOULD REALLY APPRECIATE
YOUR INSIGHT THANK YOU KICK.
THANK YOU I SUPPORT PHILLIP
COURSE THANK YOU OF COURSE.
BEARS CHAIRMAN LLOYD AND
SUPERSIZED CALIFORNIA MEMBER.
HEARD AND.
MOTHER LODE AND.
GPA AND FELT HER SUPPORT TWELVE
TWENTY TWO. THANK YOU SIR.
MY NAME IS GERRY CLEMENTS AND
I'M ALSO AND I AM A BOARD MEMBER
I'M FROM SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY.
AND.
I RECENTLY RETIRED AS A FEDERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SO. I
JUST WANT YOU FOLKS TO KNOW
THAT.
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY
COULD REALLY NEED YOUR
CLARIFICATION HERE ON THIS BILL.
THANK YOU SUPPORT IT.
AGAIN I'M KEVIN HOGAN FROM THE
GOLD PROSPECTORS ASSOCIATION OF
AMERICA SEEM TO I WAS FIRST AND
I'M GOING TO BE LAST IT LOOKS
LIKE. NOT ONLY MY REPRESENTING
MYSELF IN SUPPORT OF THIS PIECE
TWELVE TWENTY TWO I'M ALSO
REPRESENTING UPWARDS OF FIFTY
THOUSAND MEMBERS OF OUR
ORGANIZATION.
WE'RE FIFTY YEAR OLD
ORGANIZATION BASED HERE IN
CALIFORNIA.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR HAD
THANK YOU FIFTY THOUSAND. THANK
YOU A ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION OF
THIS MEASURE.
WE COULD HAVE YOU GUYS CLEAN UP
TO EACH TABLE SO WE CAN THE THAT
THE OPPOSITION COME.
THANK YOU JOHN VISION GRAB THAT.
PURPLE DEVICE.
CAPITA GIVING IT PURPLE.
BUT LET'S GET THIS YEAR.
MY WIFE LOVES OKAY THAT'S GOOD.
SUPPORT AND.
OKAY.
SENATOR HERTZBERG MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO
YOU. MY NAME IS IS A MARTIN I AM
THE CEO OF THE SIERRA FUND. WE
ARE IN A POSITION OF SP ONE TWO
TWO TWO.
ALLEN'S BILL S. B. SIX THIRTY
SEVEN.
I WAS DOWN HERE TODAY I SIT HERE
TODAY HOW I'M REPRESENTING A
NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS WHICH
OPPOSE THIS BILL INCLUDING. THE
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY.
IN THE.
CALPERS SPORTSMAN FISHING
ALLIANCE THE CALIFORNIA
WILDERNESS COALITION THE
DEFENDERS OF WORLD OF WILDLIFE
THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND.
SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA SIERRA
NEVADA ALLIANCE THE CALIFORNIA
COAST KEEPER ALLIANCE PRINTS OF
THE RIVER. THE NATIONAL OF THE
NORTH FORK AMERICAN RIVER
ASSOCIATION THE ENVIRONMENTAL
LAW FOUNDATION. AND THE CLEAN
WATER ACTION.
WORK WHERE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL
BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THE.
THE INFORMATION IN AS THE IN
AND I'M SORRY SB SIX THIRTY
SEVEN WAS QUITE CLEAR AND
SPECIFIC.
IT WAS INTENTIONAL TO INCLUDE
THE HIDING LANGUAGE MUCH OF THE
INFORMATION THAT I'VE HEARD
PRESENTED THIS MORNING AS FACT I
DON'T BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY
FACTUAL. INCLUDING ON THE IMPACT
OF THE LAW ON MINING OPERATIONS.
THE ECONOMY. THE ENVIRONMENT AND
OTHER SORTS OF THINGS THAT BE
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT
THAT I WOULD. KNOW THAT SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID IN SP
ONE TWO TWO TWO. A.
WHICH OULD SEEM TO IMPLY THAT
WE HADN'T CONSIDERED HIGH
BANKING AT ALL IT WELL I'VE
HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES.
BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED.
DE MINIMUS SIR THAT WE DID
DISCUSS IT ALL BUT I WHAT I SAID
IN THE NEGOTIATIONS I WAS ON THE
PUBLIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I
TESTIFIED TO THIS HEARING AND
I'M THIS BODY AND OTHERS AND
BELIEVE ME WE DISCUSS THAT
EXTENSIVELY. SO I I WANT TO JUST
PUT ON THE TABLE THAT WE HAVE A
NUMBER OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT
YOU'VE HEARD. THAT PEOPLE ARE
PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MIGHT HAVE THANK YOU AGAIN.
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION WHEN
YOU STAY HERE.
USING.
SECOND WE HAVE QUESTIONS ARE
QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE BE DONE ON BEHALF OF
AUDUBON CALIFORNIAN DEFENDERS OF
WILDLIFE IN OPPOSITION.
CATHERINE PHILLIPS WITH SIERRA
CLUB CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION.
BRIAN A WIKI CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN
OPPOSITION.
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
MEMBERSHIP.
ANY QUESTIONS.
SENATOR ALLEN.
OKAY I FOUND MY FIRST OF ALL I
WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR
COMING IN AND AND YOU LIKE FOR
THEM.
I WANT TO GET ONE FOR COMING AND
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
.
I.
.
COUPLE OF KEY THINGS. THE BILL
WAS ALWAYS IT WAS NEVER ABOUT.
BANNING THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF
MINE IN YEAR WAS ABOUT
PERMITTING THIS PARTICULAR TYPE
OF MINING AND THE WATER BOARD IS
THE.
ORGANIZATION TASKED WITH.
THAT WORK CERTAINLY IF THERE'S
NOTHING.
IF IS A PARTICULAR.
MINING OPERATION THAT HAD DOES
NOT IMPLICATE WATER QUALITY AYE
IT DOESN'T EVEN IMPACTED BY. AS
SPEED SIX THIRTY SEVEN.
I.
NOW IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH YOU KNOW
WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS SAYING
THAT.
THE BILL IS BEING LAWS BE
MISINTERPRETED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
I ALSO HEARD SOMEONE TALK ABOUT
HOW THEIR.
BUT USE METAL DETECTORS
MECHANIZED METAL DETECTORS BUT.
.
THAT SHOULDN'T MEET THE
DEFINITION UNDER S. B. THIRTY
SIX THIRTY SEVEN BECAUSE IT.
IT DOESN'T REMOVE A PROCESS THAT
WAS THE.
ODD THAT THE TYPE OF MECHANIZED
EQUIPMENT THAT WAS IMPLICATED
SIX THIRTY SEVEN SO IF FOR
WHATEVER REASON.
METAL DETECTORS ARE BEING.
.
BEEN OF JAMMED UP THE USE OF
MATT METAL DETECTORS.
I UNDER SIXTY SEVEN THAT IS AN
ABSOLUTE MISINTERPRETATION AND I
AM VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE
COMMITTEE THE AUTHOR.
THE FOLKS WHO ARE PROPONENTS OF
SP TWELVE TWENTY TWO TO ADDRESS
THOSE KINDS MISINTERPRETATION TO
MAKE SURE THAT.
THAT THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE.
THEIR ALLOW HIGH BECAUSE THIS
BILL ULTIMATELY WAS ABOUT
PERMITTING.
AND. YOU KNOW I KNOW WE'VE
PASSED LOTS OF LAWS THAT DID.
HAVE ONE INTENTION THAT SAY ALL
SORTS OF THINGS AND.
WE MAY HAVE AN OVERZEALOUS
REGULATOR PERMIT OR COPPER
SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO. WHO GOES
BEYOND THE LAW I YOU KNOW WAS
INVOLVED VERY INTENSELY WITH THE
VACCINES BILL AND YOU AND I WERE
INVOLVED WITH SENATOR? AND THERE
WERE CERTAINLY SOME FOLKS WHO'VE
GONE OUT THERE AND I THINK OVER
ZEALOUSLY.
IN FORCE VARIOUS ASPECTS OF
THAT ASPECTS OF THE BILL THE
REALLY HAVE GONE BEYOND WHAT WE
HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED SOLELY
WHAT WAS IN THE THE LANGUAGE OF
S. B. TO.
SEVEN SEVEN SO I'M I'VE I'M NO
STRANGER TO THIS CHALLENGE AND I
AM VERY VERY HAPPY TO. WORK WITH
YOU SENATOR.
WAVE DOT FOLKS WHO SUPPORTED S.
B. SIX THIRTY SEVEN OF US WHO
OPPOSED IT LAST TIME AROUND TO.
MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE
ISSUES CLARIFIED MY CONCERN WITH
THE LANGUAGE OF SP TWELVE TWENTY
TWO.
IT IS THAT. IT AT EIGHT READ
ACTUALLY ENDS UP. EFFECTIVELY
NARROWING THE DEFINITION SECTION
JUDGE MINING FOR THE PURPOSE OF
REQUIRING. A PERMIT AND THE
PRINCIPAL CHANGE FROM MY READING
OF THE BILL IS THAT IT REMOVES
THE TERMS MECHANIZED AND
MOTORIZED. AND IT NARROWS THE
APPLICATION SIX THIRTY SEVEN TO
ONLY SUCTION DREDGE EQUIPMENT.
WHICH YOU MAY ON ITS FACE SEEM
VERY REASONABLE BUT I THINK THE
CONCERN THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD
WITH THIS SORT OF THING IN THESE
ISSUES EXECUTE UP IN THE DEBATE.
OVER SIX THIRTY SEVEN.
BUT THE CONCERN WAS THAT MINERS
MAY SIMPLY JUST CHANGE THE MAKE
UP OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT BECAUSE
SOMETHING ELSE. TO GET AROUND
THE REGULATIONS WE ACTUALLY
CRAFTED THE DEFINITION SIX
THIRTY SEVEN IN AN ATTEMPT TO
PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING WE
WANTED TO PREVENT.
LOOPHOLES ODD TWELVE TWENTY TWO
IS AFFECTED WE TRY TO NARROW THE
APPLICABILITY SO THAT.
THAT FOLKS CAN THEN ARGUE THAT
THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY SUCTION
DREDGING AND THEREFORE THEY
DON'T NEED A PERMIT.
I.
BUT YOU DO THE THE ISSUES AT
PLAY HERE AND THE REASON WHY WE.
SITUATED THIS BILL UNDER THE
CLEAN AIR CLEAN WATER ACT.
WITH THAT YOU KNOW THE THE SOME
OF THE THE PROCESS HE'S IN PLAY.
HAVE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
EFFECTS IN IMPACTS AND AND. ALL
OF THOSE SEEM PROCESSES WOULD
SIT WOULD STILL BE IMPLICATED IF
WE WERE TO CHANGE THE
DEFINITION.
UNDER TWELVE TWENTY TWO AND
REYES THE KINDS OF SITCOMS
CONCERNS THAT WE HAD. WITH THE
PASSAGE OF SB SIX THIRTY SEVEN
FIVE WHEN WE ASK FOR THIS.
TYPE OF OF OF ACTIVITY TO BE
PERMITTED.
SO.
NOW THE SUCTION DREDGE PERMIT IS
IN LIEU. OF A STREAM BED
ALTERATION PERMIT FOR.
COMPLIANCE WITH THE BROADER
MINING LOTS MARA THE.
SURFACE MINING
AND RECLAMATION ACT WHICH IS AN
OLD LAW EVERYONE HERE SIMILAR
WITH IT. SO IF THEM IF MINORS
AREN'T USING SUCTION DREDGES
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE LAW.
UNDER SB SIX THIRTY SEVEN.
AS POTENTIALLY MANY BY S. B.
TWELVE TWENTY TWO.
THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO GET A
STREAMBED ALTERATION PERMIT.
I FROM THE PERMISSION WILDLIFE.
SAMARA IS TRIGGERED WHEN MORE
THAN ONE THOUSAND CUBIC YARDS IS
DISTURBED IS PART OF THE LIFE OF
THE LIFETIME OF A MINING
ACTIVITY SO. I'M CERTAINLY I'VE
FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO MAY BE USING
HEAVY EQUIPMENT IN THE CREEK
IT'S LIKELY THAT THEY WOULD
ACTUALLY MEET THE SMART TRAILER
SO PIECE OF THE FOLKS. WHO
ENGAGE IN THIS ACTIVITY HAVE
THREE OPTIONS HAVE?
SAMARRA PERMIT THEY HAVE
STREAMBED ALTERATION.
PERMIT OR SUCTION DREDGE MINING
PERMIT.
AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS YOU
KNOW SUCH AS MINING SECTION
DREDGE PERMIT THAT WE IMPLICATE
IN SP SIX THIRTY SEVEN THAT
WOULD BE IMPLICATED HERE. IT WAS
DESIGNED TO BE IN LIEU OF A
STREAM BED ALTERATION PERMIT OR
COMPLIANCE WITH TOMORROW.
AND IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH SENATOR
YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT.
HE HAS SUCH A JUDGE MINING.
IF YOU IN IF YOU PUT IN PLACE
THESE CHANGES HONOR SP TWELVE
TWENTY TWO.
AND THEREFORE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE
TO GET THE REQUIRED PERMITS BUT
THEN THE PROBLEM IS.
ARE YOU ARE YOU THEN THOU ME TO
GO GET A STREAM BED ALTERATION
PERMIT.
WHAT FOLKS BE IN COMPLIANCE
WITH SMARTER THAN I AM I I
ACTUALLY I'M CONCERNED THAT SOME
RESPECTS YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING
THAT MAY?
BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE FOLKS
YOU'RE PURPORTING.
YOU THE VIEWER TRYING TO YOUR
DID YOU TRY TO HELP HERE YOU
KNOW THAT THAT BY TAKING. THIS
PARTICULAR TYPE OF ACTIVITY OUT
OF THE DEFINITION OF SUCTION
DREDGE MINING.
YOU'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN GOING TO
FORCE THEM TO GO GET. MORE
DIFFICULT.
THREE BUT ALTERATION PERMITS OR
SMART COMPLIANCE PERMITS AND I.
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON YOUR
RADAR SCREEN AND WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
THAT
CERTAINLY THE LAST THING I WANT
TO DO IS CREATE MORE HOOPS FOR.
FOR THESE SUB PROSPECTORS TO
HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH AND BY AND
AND SENATOR AYE ALLEN IT'S ONE
LET YOU KNOW THAT.
.
YOUR YOUR INTENTIONS.
IN THE ORIGINAL BILL SIX
X. THIRTY SEVEN WHERE WERE NOBLE
AND TRYING TO.
PREVENT THE DISTURBANCE OF
MERCURY THAT.
WOULD BE DISTURBED DURING
SECTION DREDGING. AND.
I THINK IT WE BOTH KNOW THAT
THERE'S ALWAYS UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF BILLS YOU
MENTION SP TWO SEVENTY SEVEN WE
CAN PROBABLY NEW MARITA. AND
MANY MORE EXAMPLES BUT IT SOUNDS
LIKE TO ME THAT.
WITH THIS BILL TRIES TO DO IS
JUST KINDA REDEFINES THE
DEFINITION SO SOME OF THESE LESS
INVASIVE.
PASSIVE.
MECHANISMS TO PROSPECT FOR GOLD.
FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE
THAT ARE VETERANS PEOPLE THAT.
MAYBE DON'T PLAY GOLF BUT IF
THEY'LL PLAY TENNIS THAT
RECREATION IS GOING OUT AND AND
PANTING PROSPECTING UP FOR
GOLDEN SUFFER SOME PEOPLE. ARE
ACTUALLY TRYING TO CREATE A A A
A LIVING DOING THIS IS JUST TO
TO FREE THEM FROM.
THOUGH THE WATER BOARD THAT
JUST.
HAS NOT EVEN COME UP WITH THE
REGULATIONS YET IN DOZEN ISSUING
A PERMIT SO A LOT OF THESE
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DENIED THEIR
RECREATION NOW FOR. TWO YEARS
WITH NO END IN SIGHT AS TO WHEN
THEY CAN POTENTIALLY GET THE
PERMIT SO THEY COULD CONTINUE.
OF DOING THE ACTIVITIES THAT
THEY WANTED TO BUT I'D LIKE TO
LET THE. WITNESSES BETTER ANSWER
YOUR QUESTIONS.
SENATOR ALLEN WHEN DID STILL
SENATE BILL SIX THIRTY SEVEN
PASSED WHAT WAS THE DATE ON THAT
TWENTY FIFTEEN. ARMY TWENTY
FIFTEEN MEMBERS FIGHT OF GENES
GLORIA IT'S BEEN.
THREE YEARS SINCE THE PASSAGE OF
SO WANTED TO AFFECT TWENTY
SIXTEEN PAY WAS ONE OF OPERATION
BUT IT DIDN'T GO ON JANUARY
FIRST TWENTY SIXTEEN CORRECT
SIGNED INTO IN AB JANUARY TWENTY
CIGARETTE AUSTRALIA EXACTLY.
YEAH EXACTLY TWO YEARS AND THREE
MONTHS ROUGHLY. AND. HAVE YOU
HEARD SIR WHERE WE ARE ON THE
PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA WATER BOARD.
MY CITIES THEY'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH YOU N.
THIS AUDIT.
IS THAT WELL OKAY SO BUT I CAN I
CAN CLARIFY THAT SIR I DON'T
MEAN IT THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN
TOLD THAT. THEY DID ACTUALLY
HAVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
MEETING LAST YEAR. AND THE BOARD
OF DIRECTORS COMPILED OF
COMPRISED OF FIVE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY THAT
SUCTION DREDGING IS DE MINIMUS.
THEN THEY HAD A CHANGE IN THE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA WATER
BOARD THE NEW DIRECTOR CAME IN.
AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN
HALTED.
.
THOSE STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE.
HIS FAR AS I KNOW IN ALL OF THE
PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING ALL OF
THE RESEARCH IN THE STUDIES THE
SCIENTISTS THAT WERE INVOLVED
THEY ACTUALLY PULLED THE RAW
DATA ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
STUDIES THAT WAS PROVIDED TO
HOME. AND WE TOLD THEM DON'T
TAKE OUR.
WORD FOR IT DON'T TAKE DISEASE
WORD FOR IT CRUNCH THE NUMBERS
YOURSELF AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
THEY DID.
SO.
THE BUT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP
THIS OTHER WAS WHEN THEY DID
THAT WAY THEN WELL I GOT WHEN
WHEN GOVERNOR BROWN APPOINTED A
NEW DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
WATER BOARD.
AT THAT LIKE I'M SORRY I DON'T
RECALL HER NAME ALICIA FORMERLY
WITH THE EPA.
SHE COULD IT THE LESS THE HALT
ON IT AND SO SHE COULD EVALUATE
WHAT. STEPS THEY'RE GOING TO GO
FORWARD SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS
SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL
AND THERE'S NO PERMITTING.
IN THE SITE RIGHT NOW.
BUT I I WOULD LIKE TO BE IF I
COULD CERTAINLY PLEASES JUST
BRIEFLY IS.
SENATOR YOU'RE YOU'RE BRINGING
UP THINGS ABOUT THE WATER
QUALITY IN THE ISSUE WITH THE
FISH AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND WE ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU
ON A LOT OF THINGS WE SUPPORT
THE IDEA OF PROTECTING THE FISH
IN THE ENVIRONMENT. BUT WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS
THINGS THAT RUN IN THE DESERT
THAT DON'T INVOLVE FISHER HIGH
BANKERS THAT ARE RUN.
FAR OUTSIDE THE CREEK
RECIRCULATED IN TUBS THAT DON'T
INVOLVE FISH OR FISH HABITAT OR.
METAL DETECTORS THAT DON'T
INVOLVE FISHER FISH HABITAT AND
IT'S AFFECTING LITERALLY OVER A
HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN THE
STATE DUE TO VAGUE LANGUAGE THIS
IS A VERY SIMPLE FIXER.
OKAY WELL AS INSANE IF IF.
IF IT DOESN'T IMPLICATE WATER
QUALITY.
THEN THEN THE ISSUE PHYSICIAN
BICU ISSUE.
I'D LIKE GREECE SO CHICAGO.
WELL I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT
YOU HAVE HERE THOUGH IS THAT.
YOU'RE BASICALLY CHANGING THE
DEFINITION SUCTION DREDGE
MINING.
IN A WAY THAT.
WHERE A COULD CAUSE MORE
COMPLICATIONS FOR YOUR FOLKS BUT
BE?
THAT ULTIMATELY.
.
ITO DOT DOES THE I THINK I THINK
THE CHANGES YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
HERE.
WILL GO WILL WILL WILL GO
BEYOND WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT SIX
THIRTY SEVEN I MEAN I THINK THE
ISSUE HERE IS. TRYING TO WORK
WITH THE WATER BOARD TO TO GET
THAT THE PROCESS TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING THIS PERMITTING
PROCESS. BUT I'M HAPPY TO WORK
WITH YOU ON THAT TO PUSH THEM TO
HAVE A MEETING WITH BALLOT LET
LET JEREMY ENIGMA INJECTING AS
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE HERE
SO WE CAN.
GET THIS GOING TO LISTEN TO THIS
AND I I DO I DO BELIEVE THAT
THERE THERE THERE COULD BE SOME
BUT THIS IS A COMPLICATED OR THE
LAW OF WHAT WHAT THINGS NOT
COMPLICATED IS TWO YEARS.
AND WHAT DO YOU AGREE WITH
SOMEBODY YOU DISAGREE WITH
SOMEBODY EVERYBODY DESERVES AN
ANSWER IS SOLUTION AND IF IT
MEANS THAT THE REGULATIONS COME
OUT YOU DON'T LIKE HIM.
THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.
BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE AN
ANSWER AND SO I I WOULD JOIN
WITH YOU MISTER ALLEN THAN ANY
OTHER MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE
THAT WAS BE SO INCLINED. THAT
FELICIA MARCUS IS USED IS A GOOD
PUBLIC SERVANT KNOWN HER FOR
MANY MANY YEARS TO ENGAGE TO ASK
WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY. THERE'S
OPPORTUNITIES AND BUDGET CONTROL
LANGUAGES ALSO LOTS OF
OPPORTUNITIES OF THINGS WE CAN
DO IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY
TO DO IT OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE
COULD OTHERWISE DUE. TO
EXPEDITED DECISION THAT TO ME IT
SEEMS TO ME JUST CUT TO THE
CHASE MISTER ALLEN WITH A STEP
ON YOUR QUESTION IF THIS IS
OKAY.
IS THAT THERE'S KIND OF I'M
LISTENING VERY CONTENT ME TO
WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND ONE IS THAT.
IT DIDN'T IS NO DECISION IN
MAYBE THERE WOULD BE DECISIONS
THAT WOULD GIVE CLEAR GUIDANCE
IN OF THOSE DECISIONS YOU
DETERMINE WHAT YOU COULDN'T
COULDN'T DO. I PROMISE CENTER
STONE AND WATCH THAT VIDEO I
DID.
JUST SO YOU KNOW.
PARDON DE TO TO TO MAKE SURE
THAT YOU WERE HURT IN THAT
REGARD SO ONE IS TO GET A
DECISION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
PERIOD BY I WILL TELL YOU ITS
CHARM IS COMMITTED LIKE TO JOIN
WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE MEASURE
TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE STATE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD
AND SAY. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED
THAT MEANS MORE BUDGET CONTROL
LANGUAGE WHATEVER IT MAY MEET
LET'S GET TO A DECISION WHAT TO.
AND THAT WILL HELP DEAL WITH
YOUR AUTOMATED WHEELCHAIR FOR
ALL THE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT YOU
GAVE AS TO WHETHER THOSE ARE
AREN'T PART OF THIS LARGER
DYNAMIC IN TERMS OF. THE
ENFORCEMENT WATER HAPPENING TO
PEOPLE RIGHT SO ONE IS THAT AND
TWO IS YOUR QUESTION OF THE
DEFINITION IS THE DEFINITION
OVER REACHING.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU?
THAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A
CHALLENGE HERE BECAUSE THE
COMPLEXITY OF THE LAW WITH
RESPECT TO ALL THESE OTHER
INTERLACING PERMITS.
THAT YOU WILL HAVE THAT DID THE
CHALLENGE THAT MISTER ALLEN
SENATOR ALLEN REFERS TO IT WHEN
YOU WANT TO DO IS TO GET
DECISIONS TO GET DIRECTION TO
GET CLARITY DE GET COMMON SENSE
THAT I KEPT HEARING FROM SO MANY
OF THE FOLKS OUT HERE. THAT OUR
WORK AND INTO WHAT THE ANSWER IS
AND SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN A
SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE WERE IN
THE FIELD MIGHT BE. GRABBING
SOME BUDDIES WHATEVER THAT
DEALERS THERE. BUT POST HOLE
DIGGER POST HOLE DIGGER OR
WHATEVER ELSE IT MAY BE THAT MAY
NOT WORK IN WATER AREAS OR
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
I THINK THAT COMES REALLY FROM
THE FRUSTRATION OF THE DELAY. IN
THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE
THEIR BUSINESS RIGHT THAT SEEMS
TO ME THAT THAT'S THE GOD OF
THIS THING. AND I'M TELLING YA
IS IN ALL RIGHT THE LETTER A
PICK UP THE PHONE CALLER.
WILL TALK ABOUT BUDGET
CONTROLLING THE JOB WE HAVE TO
DO THAT IF HE'S MORE RESOURCE
THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT YOU DESERVE AN ANSWER YOU
DESERVE CLARITY AND I THINK IN
THE PROCESS OF THAT CLARITY YOU
WILL CERTAINLY BE INVOLVED WITH
THAT DISCUSSION IS EVERYBODY
ELSE WILL. TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
THAT'S ABOUT BUT MY SENSE OF THE
FRUSTRATION OF MY SENSES CENTER
STONE'S MEASURE HERE THAT YOU'RE
HERE TODAY. IS THAT YOU'RE KIND
OF IN DESPERATION BECAUSE
THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION.
THAT'S UNFAIR.
SO THAT'S MY JUDGMENT ON THE
SLING GIVE A QUESTION.
SENATE BY NEXT YEAR.
ORDERED BUT APPRECIATE.
GERMAN ONE TO WRITE A LETTER
HAVE YELLED SINCE LETTERS
ALREADY. IN THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF TWO YEARS. BUT.
IF YOU LIKE HOW MANY GOOD. THAT
THEY RECEIVED THEM WOULDN'T TELL
PHONE CALLS EMAILS LETTERS.
I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR
CHAIRMAN PITT I'M NOT I'M JUST
WONDERING.
WHY WHY THINGS HAVEN'T HAPPENED
YET?
I I MEAN YEAH I'M THE BEEN OUT
OF BUSINESS FOR FOR YEAR AND A
HALF OF THAT'S THAT'S VERY
FRIGHTENING ESPECIALLY WHEN
YOU'RE OUT IN THE DESERT.
BUT IMMIGRANT I'M STUNT JUST
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND
IT'S. AND IT SEEMS TO BE YOU
KNOW SOMEBODY SHUT ME DOWN FOR
YEAR AND A HALF.
AND MY FARMING OPERATION OR ANY
OF THE OTHER MY BUSINESSES I
MEAN I'D I JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT
WITH AND IN NOT YOU KNOW WE GET
AN ANSWER ONCE I'VE ALREADY SENT
LETTERS AND PHONE CALLS AND I
CALL IT IS THE TO GET THE GET
ANSWER THIS. WELL I THINK ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WAS
THAT WHEN THAT WHEN THE VOTES TO
BLOCK CASTING CAME STATUTE.
THERE IS OTHER CONFLICT COME.
CONFLICTING THINGS GOING ON
THERE WAS A LAWSUIT THAT HAD
BEEN FILED AGAINST HIM FOR THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA WAS
DISAGREEING ABOUT WITH THE.
COURT IN SAN BERNADINO THIS GOT
TAKEN ALL THE WAY UP TO THE US
SUPREME COURT WHICH DECIDED JUST
A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TO NOT
HEAR. THE MINERS APPEAL OF THE
CALIFORNIA DECISIONS SO. I THINK
THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CAN OF
THIS THIS LITIGATION PROBLEM.
MY I'M OF THE FOLKS THAT I
REPRESENT ARE VERY ANXIOUS TO
MOVE FORWARD INTO A WATER
QUALITY PERMITTING. PROCESS
WE'VE ALSO BEEN CALLING IN
SAYING WHEN WE CAN GET THIS
THING STARTED. I'M I I
PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT MIKE MY
LETTERS TO THE CHAIRWOMAN
MARKETS WILL NOT BE AS EFFECTIVE
AS SENATOR HERTZBERG SWEATER
MIGHT BE. SO I'M JUST.
PRESUMING THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO VERY MUCH
JOIN IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
WHERE YOU GUYS ARE TAKING THIS
CONVERSATION.
OKAY
SOME OF STONE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
THE ROBUST.
DISCUSSION AND.
I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF REACHING
OUT TO THE SECRETARY TO.
TRY TO.
EXPEDITE IF YOU WILL OF THE
PERMIT PROCESSING BUT A HOUSE
WANTING MISTER CHAIRMAN WOULD IT
BE POSSIBLE IF WE COULD HOLD
THIS OVER IT'S EXACTLY WHAT I
WAS MISSING AND I WAS WONDERING
IF MAYBE SENATOR ALLEN IF YOU'D
BE SO KIND AND AND SENATOR
HERTZBERG.
.
AND MAYBE TO MEMBERS OF OF THIS
GROUP IF WE COULD SET AN IS IT
POSSIBLE THAT INSTEAD OF MAY BE
BROADLY CHANGING THE DEFINITION.
TO COME UP WITH SOME SPECIFICITY
AS TO WHAT THEY CAN USE
THAT COULD BE PLACED IN THIS
BILL THAT WOULD NOT BE
CONSIDERED DREDGING EQUIPMENT.
SO THAT IF YOU YOU PETER.
HUSING OF THAT THE. POLL.
HOLD THE POST HOLE DIGGER FOR
USING THIS OTHER APPARATUS ON
THE SHORE NINETY WHEN IN THE
WATER.
GOGGLE PROSPECTING ELECTRONIC
MACHINE IF THERE'S A SIMPLE FOR
THE TENTH TIME LIKE WE HAVE OVER
A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT ARE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT
MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH
SOME.
SPECIFICITY SOME QUALITATIVE
pINSERT IN THE BILL THAT WE KNEW
IT FELT COMFORTABLE WITH. MIGHT
MIGHT MY OPPOSITION FRIENDS
WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT
LASSEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO HIS
DIRTY THE WATERS UP WE WANT TO
DO IS RESTORE SOME RECREATION.
FINE IF YOU WILL AND.
MONEY MAKING FOR PEOPLE THAT
HAVE BEEN DENIED THIS
RECREATIONAL RIGHT AND I WOULD
BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT OVER IF WE
COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER TO COME
UP WITH A SOLUTION SURROUND SO
OKAY SO THAT. THE WHEN THE THE
ISSUE HERE ISN'T REALLY ABOUT
THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S
USED THE ISSUE IS THE IMPACT OF
THE. ACTIVITY.
AND SO.
THAT'S WHY I I I. I I
PERSONALLY CAN COMMIT TO.
SO
SO THAT'S WHY I YOU KNOW BUT BUT
THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT HAPPY
TO HAVE A LOT TO TO GET VOTE HIS
CAR SEASON WITH YOU AND AND SEE
WHAT WE CAN DO TO FIGURE THINGS
OUT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY.
IF THE IF THE WATER BOARD IS
FOOT DRAGGING AND AND LOOK I
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO
ALL OF OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE I'M
I'M AND OF YOUR STAFF JUST REACH
OUT TO AS I I DON'T THINK OUR
STAFF IS.
TALK WITH WITH YOU GUYS I
RECENTLY. ARE BUT BUT WHERE BUT
BUT I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY TO.
ENGAGE WITH YOU OTHER MEMBERS
THE COMMITTEE FROM BOTH SIDES OF
THE AISLE. ARE ON HOW WE CAN
ENGAGE WITH THE WATER BOARD TO
GET THIS.
PROCESS SPED UP BUT JUST FOR YOU
KNOW THE THE ISSUE THE ISSUE ON
OUR SIDES ALWAYS GOING TO BE
ABOUT WATER QUALITY IMPACTS
THAT'S THE KEY ISSUE. AND YOU
KNOW IF IF WE WE ACTUALLY SHOULD
GET ONLINE.
ALL THE ACTIVITY THAT DOESN'T
HAVE A WATER QUALITY IMPACT.
AND AND ALSO A BIT THEN IT THE
SAME TIME REALLY PUSH THEM HARD.
TO GET SOME.
YOU KNOW GET SOME SOME WORK IN
PLACE TO ADDRESS THAT ACTIVITY
THAT DOES HAVE A WATER QUALITY
IMPACTS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY
SEPARATE THE THE DANGEROUS
ACTIVITY FROM THAT WHICH IS AND
AND AND.
I'M FREDI I'M FRUSTRATED HERE
THAT THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH I
THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD
WILL.
TO TRY TO FIX IT I THINK THAT I
DIDN'T REALIZE THIS THAT WE HAD
THE ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO
LITIGATION SO.
AS PART OF THE PROBLEM AND NOW
IT'S DONE BY THE SUPREME COURT.
I DO THINK THE NO DISRESPECT
THAT THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE
THAT OVERSEES MOST OF THE WORK
THAT THE WATER BOARD DOES THE
STATE ALSO NOT JUST NATURAL
RESOURCES ALSO WATER COMMITTEE.
HAS SOME INFLUENCE LET ALONE
NIGHT KNOWN THE CHAIR OF THAT
BOARD FOR. DECADES AND I DO
THINK THAT THERE'S AN
OPPORTUNITY HERE.
GREAT REGARD FOR SENATORS STONE
IS A MAN OF HONOR AND WILL
FIGURE THIS OUT SO I THINK I
THINK IT IS FAIR I DON'T WANT TO
CREATE A VOTE ON THIS THING OR
SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT'S NOT
NECESSARY AND I THINK THAT. YOU
KNOW I THINK YOU'D OF DID THE
BOARD IS LISTENING TO THIS
HEARING TODAY PEOPLE RELEVANT TO
THAT BOARD. BUT WE ARE WITH THE
THIRTY EIGHT MILLION OTHER
PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO THIS
HEARING TODAY.
YEAH AND THEY'RE GONNA PAY
ATTENTION I THINK THAT THAT THE
MESSAGE WAS DELIVERED LOUD AND
CLEAR. AND WE WILL ACT HONORABLY
IN THAT EFFORT AND PUT SOME
MUSCLE BEHIND IT TO TRY TO
FIGURE IT OUT AND IF WE DON'T
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP
PUSHIN THIS BILL BUT THEY. LET'S
SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT I
THINK YOUR POINT ABOUT THE
PROCESS FAIR LET'S COMMUNICATE
WITH THE WATER BOARD AND SHE
WOULD OPTIONS WE GOT THE TABLE
IS THAT WORK FOR YOU CENTER
STONE. AS I DO RESERVE THE RIGHT
TO COME BACK BEFORE ON A
PERCENT.
I APPRECIATE THAT BUT LEACHATE
VIA Q. HOW HELPS TO HE MIGHT
HAVE TO SUPPORT RULE WAIVERS
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THIS IS
REFERRED TO SENATOR LOOKOUTS
HE'S COMMITTEE WHAT WE WILL DO
SO I WILL ACTUALLY COMMIT TO
THAT WITH. WE WILL DO SO.
THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING HERE TODAY THIS IS VERY
INSTRUCTIVE AN IMPORTANT HEARING
THANKS EVERYBODY THANK YOU
SHOULD IT.
OKAY. FILE ITEM NUMBER JACKSON
IS HERE WE HAVE SENATOR NIELSEN
IS HERE.
THE NUMBERS TO US TAKE A QUICK
VOTE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR
SEATED SOME PEOPLE GO ON
HOMELESSNESS IS A LOT OF.
INTO.
YEAH.
SHE.
TO GET A.
HEARING YOU'RE GONNA TIME.
TAKE IT OUTSIDE.
MAKE A MOTION THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
OWNERS SO MOVE THAT'S FILE AN
REFORM MEMBER.
TEN AND NUMBER FOURTEEN
SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL TENORS
HERTZBERG AYE AYE
VERY HIGH STONE.
ALLEN
HI ALAN I QUIT SO.
JACKSON.
JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE
MONNING.
STERN.
BUT GO ON TO WE'RE GONNA PULL
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IF YOU CAN SAID
COUNTER CONSENT MEANS ALL IN
THIS TOGETHER SENATORS ARE AS
WERE TALK AND IN THE MIDST OF
ALL THE NOISE. INDICATED HE
WANTED DISCUSS SOMETHING SO
WE'RE GONNA JUST GONNA PULL ITEM
NUMBER FOUR FOR PORTANTINO AND
WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO NINE TEN
AND FOURTEEN IS THAT OKAY WITH
THE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA
OBJECTION TO THAT. AT ALL.
OFFER AN AMENDED MOTION GO
AMENDED EVERY OKAY. RECORD THAT
WE HAVE TO RECALL THE WILL YOU
RECALL THE ROLE ILLNESSES TECH
TONIGHT TECHNICALLY NEED TO
CLOSE UP THIS MORNIN RECONSIDER
AND.
IT WILL CLOSE UP THE ROLE
RECONSIDER IT.
APOLOGIZE SITE WE'RE MOVING TOO
FAST AND.
DIDN'T KNOW THAT
SO LET'S DO A RECONSIDERATION ON
THAT CONSENT COUNTERS PEN OR
CLOSE OUT THE RULE. DAY AND I
WAS ON MONEY IN
STERN.
THEN BIDAK.
TO SEE. WHAT I?
THAT'S
FIVE IT'S ENOUGH TO CONSIDER IT
WOULD HAVE TO RECONSIDER. NOW
WILL TAKE THAT OFTEN NOW WERE
TAKEN OUT NUMBER FOUR AND
JUSTICE FILE CONSENT ON FILE A
NINE TEN AND FOURTEEN SECTOR OF
THE ROLE.
SENATE HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG
AYE STONE.
ALLEN HIGH ALLEN AYE HUESO
JACKSON. JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE MONNING.
STERN.
STERN AYE BIDAK
BY A GUY.
TODAY THAT HAS ON THE PHONES ON
HOLD IT OPEN THROUGH. FOR OTHERS
TO COMMENT CENTER NIELSEN FILE
ITEM THREE S. B. NINE FIFTY
FIVE.
SENATE ALLEN CAN GIVE THEM
GALLAGHER THE QUICKEST WAY BACK
IN MY.
DO YOU.
BECKY WAS CHAIRMAN THANK YOU.
OF IT.
SHEET YOU BEING HERE YOU'RE HERE
TO PRESENT SB NINE FIFTY
FIVE
THE OROVILLE DAM.
HE MAY HAVE SEEN.
KEVIN ALLEN MEMBERS OF
COMMITTEE.
THIS LEGISLATION.
IT IS BROUGHT FORWARD. TO.
BRING SOME SENSE AND SENSIBILITY
TO.
FIFTY YEARS.
OF A PROBLEM.
FIFTY YEARS OF A PROBLEM.
THE OUR STATE WATER PROJECT.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT
INFRASTRUCTURES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
IT EMANATES FROM THE OROVILLE
DAM.
COURSE.
THE COMPASSES THE WATERSHED.
BUT THE FEATHER RIVER.
THAT EVERYTHING DOWN RIVER.
AND WE'VE HAD A SERIOUS PROBLEM
IN THE. LAST YEAR AS YOU WELL
KNOW A.
FORTUNATELY AVERTED.
NATURAL DISASTER OF. JOHNSTOWN
FLOOD.
SIGNIFICANT.
BUT STILL MANY THINGS YET. TO BE
DONE AND ACCOMPLISHED.
AS FAR AS THE STATE WATER
PROJECT.
HIS CONCERN.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING MANY MANY
MEETINGS.
WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES.
BUT THEN THE CAPITAL.
WITH ALL AFFECTED PARTIES.
OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
ON THIS MATTER.
ONE OF THE.
MOST AGREE JUST.
CONSTANCE.
HAS BEEN.
THE SIGNIFICANT TO ABSOLUTE LACK
OF TRUST.
OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE. WHO THE
AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT?
AND AS THE RECORD OVER THE LAST
YEAR HAS BEEN EXAMINED.
AND HOW THINGS EVOLVE OVER FIFTY
YEARS.
THAT TO TRUST LACK OF TRUST IS
ONLY BEEN MORE.
REINFORCED AND.
BUT I AM OF THE MIND THAT THERE
IS SOME HOPE.
ASSEMBLYMAN GALLAGHER AND I HAVE
BEEN WORKING WITH GOOD FAITH.
WITH THE AGENCIES GOVERNMENT.
ONE OF WHICH RESULTED IN
SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION THAT
WILL IMPROVE DAM INSPECTION.
MONITORING.
AND FIXING.
PROBLEMS THAT ARE FOUND IN THOSE
INSPECTIONS.
THAT HAS BEEN CRITICAL.
ANOTHER ELEMENT IS THE
COMMUNITIES FEELING.
CUT OUT.
IT OR NOT LISTEN TO.
THIS IS NOT NEW.
KIND OF NEW LOT OF WHAT WE'VE
DONE BEFORE.
IT A MID EIGHTIES I AUTHORED
SENATE BILL TEN EIGHTY SIX.
IT WAS TO BE. COMING UP WITH THE
MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE
SACRAMENTO RIVER.
AND A STRUCTURED STATUTORY
STRUCTURED FORUM WHEREBY PARTIES
OF INTEREST.
WHICH INCLUDED STATE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES
INTEREST.
ALONG THAT SACRAMENTO RIVER.
BUT ME.
AND DISCUSS.
I DID NOT WANT TO CREATE ANY NEW
REGULATORY AGENCY WITH POWERS TO
FIND AND.
THE ISSUE FEE THAT PERMITS.
BUT RATHER TO PROMOTE A
CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE.
SO NOW THE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT
OF SENATE LOOK TEN EIGHTY SIX
IT'S BEEN AROUND.
FOR THIRTY YEARS.
THAT ONE OF THE REVERED
PIONEERS.
OF PROTECTING.
FISH IN CALIFORNIA. NOW DECEASED
G. GREATER.
TOLD ME SETTLEMENT SEVERAL YEARS
AGO JIM TEN EIGHTY SIX DID MORE
TO HELP.
THE SALMON RUN IN THE SACRAMENTO
RIVER THAN ALL THE OTHER THINGS
WE'VE DONE PREVIOUS.
NO I MIGHT ASSUME THAT THAT'S A
LITTLE BIT OVERSTATED BUT WHEN
IT COMES FROM THE MOUTH THE
BUDGET GREATER.
THERE'S GREAT TREATMENTS.
WHAT HE SAID?
THAT MEANS THAT THIS PROCESS.
HAS WORKED.
AND I'M TRYING NOW THAN TO.
THE CORPORATE THAT PROCESS. ON
WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS WE PROCEED
FOR THE NEXT FIFTY YEARS.
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE WATER
PROJECT. THAT AFFECTS.
ALL OF CALIFORNIA.
THEN THAT DOES INCLUDE.
THE RIVERS.
THERE LEVEES. THE BYPASS.
BUT AS WELL.
WHAT THIS BILL WILL DO?
IT'S CREATES A COMMISSION.
BUT I WANT TO QUALIFY AGAIN THAT
THIS COMMISSION IS NOT LIKE MANY
COMMISSIONS YOU'RE FAMILIAR
WITH.
THAT TO OF WHEELS DICTATORIAL AN
ARBITRARY AUTHORITY.
BUT RATHER THAT PROMOTES
UNDERSTANDING.
AN AGREEMENT.
AMONG INDIVIDUALS.
NOW THIS YEAR'S SUBJECT TO HUNT
CONTINUED NEGOTIATION AS WE
PROCEED WE DID ON TEN A BILL TEN
EIGHTY SIX LONG AGO.
BUT I THINK WE'VE PRETTY WELL
SETTLED WHERE WE'RE AT NOW AND I
WILL SUBMIT. AT THIS POINT WE
HAVE AGREEMENT.
WITH THE AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT.
THAT FIGURE IN THIS.
THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES HAS WORKED IN GOOD
FAITH WITH US AS HAS THE. BROWN
ADMINISTRATION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE COME UP
WITH SOMETHING AT LEAST AT THIS
POINT THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTED
BY.
I SEE NO REASON THAT WE WOULD
DEPART FROM.
DISAGREED UPON FORMAT WE MIGHT
TEMPER IT A LITTLE BIT.
I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND
COMMITTEE STAFFER FOR WORKING
WITH US AS WELL.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS.
VERY POSITIVE.
AND VERY HELPFUL.
WE WOULD A POINT A COUPLE OF
MEMBERS FROM THE CITY OF ARBIL.
THREE MEMBERS FROM THE COUNTY OF
BUTTE.
TWO MEMBERS FROM THE COUNTIES OF
SUTTER AND YUBA.
AGAIN THESE THE MOST AFFECTED
COUNTIES IN THE ONES THAT HAD TO
EVACUATE LAST YEAR WHEN THERE
WAS A SCARE.
A MEMBER APPOINTED BY THE
SHERIFF'S OF THOSE COUNTIES.
AND THEN. A MEMBER APPOINTED BY.
I SELF OR WHOEVER THE CENTER TO
THE FOURTH DISTRICT USED IN THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF THE SECOND
DISTRICT THAT DIDN'T NOW BEING.
GALLAGHER REPRESENTS OR BILL
GREAT THANK YOU VERY EGGMAN AND
SENATORS YOU ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENT SO WE PUT THE MOCK UP
AND WE DO ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS. AS THAT ONE OF THOSE
AMENDMENTS TO ADD ME AS CO
AUTHOR CORRECT THAT AT JI WAS A
CO AUTHOR A MAGIC I MENTIONED
EARLIER HOW HONORED WE ARE TO
HAVE YOU AS A COLLECTIVE A
PREACHER.
OKAY ANYBODY'S GOT IN TO SAY
THAT SUPPORT THIS MEASURE.
LAB TO PEOPLE LET LET OUR BUDGET
ARE ASKED COUNTY SUPERVISOR.
FROM SUTTER COUNTY FIRST OKAY
SIR SUPERVISOR MONEY MAKING
EFFORT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
BUT IT IS BAD CONAN I'M.
BORIS OF LIFE SUTTER COUNTY. MY
DISTRICT IS DISTRICT FIVE WHICH
ENCOMPASSES SIXTY PERCENT OF THE
LAND MASS THE COUNTY. MOSTLY ON
BOTH SIDE OF THE RIVER. ALL OF
SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY UP INTO
YUBA CITY ON LINCOLN ROAD.
OUR COUNTY WAS DEVASTATED BY
THE.
OROVILLE DAM SPILLWAYS WE'VE
ACTUATED. THE ENTIRE TOWN OF
YUBA CITY WHERE DOES EVACUATED.
.
BUT I THINK THIS COMMITTEE THAT.
THE CENTER NIELSEN IS PROPOSING
WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT. TO
TRYING TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE
CLARITY AND AND.
.
A LITTLE MORE RESOLVE IN THE
COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE
PROJECT MAY BE WORKING OR NOT
WORKING.
A FEW CONCERNS I HAVE WHY I
THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ARE.
THE.
SPILLWAY THAT.
FRIDAY MORNING BEFORE THE
SPILLWAY OVERTOPPED.
THEY SAID IT WOULD NEVER TOP.
DID DID SATURDAY MORNING.
IF THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
CONTROL WORK CAN GET BETTER
HAMLIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS.
BETTER.
DO THE MATH BETTER I FIGURED BY
TUESDAY. TUESDAY I FIGURED OUT
OVER TOP FRIDAY NIGHT LITTLE ELF
WHITE SIX HOURS. TWO DAYS EARLY
FORTIES EARLIER.
.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT'S
POSSIBLE THAT THE REPAIR COULD
BEEN MADE OF THE STATE GOT OFF
THE STICK.
WHEN IT FIRST FAILED AND OTHER
QUICK REPAIR ALRIGHT WITH SO
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO
DEVASTATING OF DAMAGE TO THE
SPILLWAY. MAYBE WE COULD GET
SOME MAY LIKE CC MEYERS IN THERE
TO GIVE A BID. TO. GO AND GAME
PLAY BONUSES HE WOULD HAVE FIXED
IT FOR MAYBE A HUNDRED MILLION
INSTEAD OF.
HOW MY FAMILY BILLION WILL BE UP
TO FORWARD OUT?
?
I ALSO.
.
I BELIEVE THAT.
RISING AND DROPPING THE FLOWS OF
THE SPILLWAY FIFTY THOUSAND
CUBIC FEET INSTANTANEOUSLY.
DID HORRIBLE DEVASTATING DAMAGE
TO THE. ECOSYSTEM ALONG THE
RIVER.
WHERE?
WHAT HAPPENED IS A RAISED FIFTY
THOUSAND CUBIC FEET PER SECOND?
CROPPED IT WILL WOULD TO HEADED
UP THAT LEVEL. ALL LITTLE SOUL
PROFILE ALONG ON BOTH SIDES THE
RIVER. BECAME. SATURATED WHEN
YOU DROP IT ALL THAT WATER STILL
IN THIS IN THE SOIL. WE LOST TWO
HUNDRED EAR OLD OAK TREES WE
LOST HABITAT THAT HAS BEEN ON
THAT RIVER. FOR HUNDREDS OF
YEARS THAT IS GONE NOW.
WE LOST ORCHARDS WE LOST A.
TREMENDOUS RESOURCE TO THE
HABITAT AND OF INFRASTRUCTURE OF
THE. OF THE COMMUNITY THE
FISHING IS DEVASTATED BOATS
CAN'T TRAVEL DOWN THE RIVER
BECAUSE OF THE. ALL THE SEDIMENT
NOW IN THE RIVER.
.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF
THE STATE WOULD HAVE REGRETFULLY
DROPPED THE FLOWS OUT OF THE
SPILLWAY.
NOTHING THAT LET'S KEEP IT TO
THE BILL THOUGH THAT'S. OKAY
THEY KNOW THE HISTORY ONE OF THE
BILL LITTLE BASICALLY WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING SIR IS THE REASON
I JOINED IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE.
MAGNITUDE OF THE OF THE RISK
THAT YOU HAVE IT IS CRITICAL TO
THE CONFIDENCE IN THE COMMUNITY
THAT THEY HAVE A VOICE THAT
THEIR UP DID THERE KEPT UP TO
DATE THAT YOU DON'T FIND A
SITUATION WHERE. ALL OF A SUDDEN
YOU'RE TOLD ONE THING YOU NEED
TO BE ENGAGED BECAUSE IT YOUR
LIFE ON THE LINE THAT'S A REASON
WHY I'M CO AUTHORING THIS AND.
WE CAN LOOK FORWARD.
THANK YOU KNOW SHE GOT.
PATROL.
THANK YOU SIR I'M WITH YOU ON
THE WAY LOBBYIST WILL DEFINITELY
KNOW WHAT YOU DID IN THE AND AND
THAT'S I'M JUST TRYING TO ADD
TO.
TO EMPHASIZE WOULD YOU
EMPHASIZED THANK YOU.
NOTHING FURTHER ANY FURTHER
SUPPORT. YOU MUCH GOOD THIS.
PITCH ON.
HE AND DOCTOR SANDY LINVILLE AND
I'M WITH THE OR THE AREA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE AND FIRST OF ALL I'D
LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK
ON THIS BILL.
YOU GOT A GREAT AUTHOR. YES
AUTHORS I DO. IN THE DECADE
SINCE THE OROVILLE DAMS
INAUGURATION IN NINETEEN SIXTY
EIGHT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY HAS
HAD A LONG STANDING CONCERNS
ABOUT THE HOW THE WHOLE OROVILLE
DAM COMPLEX ITSELF HAS BEEN
OPERATED AND MANAGED.
IN FEBRUARY TWENTY SEVENTEEN AS
YOU KNOW THESE CONCERNS TURNED.
OUT RIGHT DISTRUST
AS A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT
THOUSAND CITIZENS WERE EVACUATED
FROM THEIR HOMES. NOW JUST AS.
MY PREDECESSOR HERE MENTIONED
AND YOU MENTIONED ALSO. LEADING
UP TO THE EVACUATION WE WERE
TOLD THERE'S NO PROBLEM IS A
MATTER OF FACT I CAN QUOTE THAT
SAID THE DAM IS SOUND AND NO
IMMINENT THREAT TO THE PUBLIC
EXISTS. YET AMIR DAYS AND HOURS
LATER.
ONE SUNDAY FEBRUARY TWELFTH THE
UNCERTAINTY TURNED OF MASS
CONFUSION AND PANIC AS IMMEDIATE
EVACUATIONS WERE ORDERED.
I I REMEMBER THE MOMENTS IN MY
LIFE WHEN THE SPACE SHUTTLE BLEW
UP.
AND I WILL FOREVER REMEMBER THAT
SUNDAY AFTERNOON WHERE I WAS AND
WHAT I WAS DOING WHAT I READ THE
TWEET THAT CAME ACROSS MY PHONE
THAT SAID MANDATORY EVACUATION
EMINENT DAM FAIURE WITHIN THE
HOUR.
GIVEN THE ECONOMIC AND MORE
IMPORTANT LEAVE THE EMOTIONAL
DAMAGE THAT RESULTED FROM THIS
CRISIS WE BELIEVE IT IS
IMPERATIVE TO ESTABLISH A VENUE
WHERE REGIONAL STAKEHOLDERS CAN
ENGAGE IN OPEN AND REGULAR.
DIALOGUE WITH THE DAM OPERATOR.
THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN THIS
DIALOGUE CONSERVE TO INCREASE
BOTH THE QUANTITY AND QUALITY OF
INFORMATION IN TERMS OF CLARITY
FROM MISS COMMUNICATIONS AND
ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS. WE'D
THE COMMUNITIES IN THE
COMMUNITIES DOWNSTREAM BEAR THE
DISPROPORTIONATE BURDEN OF RISK
FROM LIVING IN THE SHADOW OF THE
NATION'S TALLEST NAM.
AND OUR INSIGHT AND KNOWLEDGE
HAS MATTER.
ADDITIONALLY THIS COMMISSION IS
WARRANTED AS THE VOICE OF
CITIZENS LIVING DOWNSTREAM HAS
MERIT.
AND FINALLY THIS COMMISSION IS
NEEDED AS THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE
WILL NOT TRUST THE REPORTS AND
THE FINDINGS THAT COME FROM THE
D. W. ARE WITHOUT PUBLIC
INVOLVEMENT.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU COMMITTEE
FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE
ADMINISTRATION AND D. W. ARE FOR
THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS PROCESS
AND TO THE IDEA OF OPEN DIALOGUE
WITH REGIONAL STAKEHOLDERS AS WE
WORK FOR FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
COLLABORATION TO ENSURE AT THE
DANCE NEXT FIFTY YEARS ARE SAFE
AND PROSPEROUS FOR EVERYONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY FURTHER
IN SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION BOTH PUT WORDS
ARE MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MARK
SMITH ON BEHALF OF THE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA GUIDES AND
SPORTSMEN'S ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. AS WE
TALKED WITH THE SENATOR AND HIS
STAFF WE KNOW THE COMMISSION IS
ALREADY QUITE LARGE BUT AS THE.
OPERATORS ON THE RIVER WHO MAKE
THEIR LIVING ON THE RIVER WE
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT AT
THAT TABLE AND SO WE ARE ASKING
FOR SOME ACCOMMODATION THERE AS
THE BILL MOVES THROUGH THE
PROCESS TO BE INCLUDED.
IN THIS DIALOGUE THANK YOU
MISTER ANY ANY OPPOSITION AND
ALL THAT CONVOCATION FURTHER
LIKE CLOSE SENATOR.
I WOULD DO THAT JUST TO KIND OF
CLOSE WAS SAYING. THAT.
THIS CONCEPT IS ALSO BEEN
EMPLOYED IN OTHER AREAS IN STATE
GOVERNMENT. FLORA COMMUNITIES
ARE INVOLVED SO THAT I IT IT'S
TRIED AND PROVEN I WOULD ASK THE
NIGHT VOTE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OF A MOTION SENATOR MCGUIRE SO
MOVES.
OMG THE QUESTION I'M SORRY WELL
JUST A STATEMENT YOU KNOW.
I I I TAKE A LITTLE UMBRAGE XIN
THE BLANKET STATEMENTS ABOUT
GOVERNMENT.
A NOT WORKING AND AND GRANTED
IN THIS CASE THERE ARE SOME REAL
QUESTIONS AND I AND I SHARE THEM
AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE
BILL.
BUT.
SOMETIMES WAY WE FOMENTED OUT
YOU KNOW GOVERNMENT DID THEY ITS
PEOPLE. AND OMETIMES WE DON'T
GIVE THEM ENOUGH RESOURCES TO DO
THEIR JOB.
AND SO THEY DON'T DO THEIR JOB
WELL.
BUT SOMETIMES THEY AND I CHOSE
TO.
FEEL COMPELLED GIVEN WHAT MY
COMMUNITY WENT THROUGH IN. A
DECEMBER AND JANUARY.
WITH THE THOMAS FIRE AND THEN
THE DEBRIS FLOW.
TO GIVE US A LITTLE SHOUT OUT
YOU KNOW SOMETIMES COME IT
REALLY WORKS AND REALLY WORKS
WELL. AND SO.
WHEN IT DOESN'T I THINK
SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS HELPFUL
BECAUSE THE COMMUNITIES LOST
CONFIDENCE BUT THAT ISN'T ALWAYS
THE CASE AND I THINK SOMETIMES.
WE MAKE MATTERS WORSE BY.
ACCUSING GOVERNMENT OF BEING
THE PROBLEM WHEN IT IS NOT
NECESSARILY THE CASE AND SO.
I BELIEVE THERE IS A MOTION I
WOULD MOVE THIS BILL I THINK
IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE
BUT I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO
BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCERNING.
WHEN WE START ATTACKING OUR
GOVERNMENT ACTION WILL BE TAKEN
SPECIAL GIVEN THE THE
EXTRAORDINARY. EFFORTS
TERMS OF FIRES.
BOTH IN YOUR COMMITTEES IN MIND
BILLS REMOVED TECHNICAL STICK
PASS AS A MINUTE TO THE GYM
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CENTERS
HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG AYE
STONE. ALLEN. ALLEN AYE HUESO
JACKSON JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE TO THE MONEY.
STERN.
STERN AYE BIDAK AYE BY THAT GUY
THAT HAS MANY OF THOSE PHOTOS IF
IT WILL HOLD ALL OPEN RIGHT
SENATE BILL CAN USE TAKE A
MINUTE BECAUSE I PROMISED
CINEMAGOERS GOTTA GO SIMPLY
SEATED PROJECT IS BILL. THIS IS
FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SP
THIRTEEN OH EIGHT SENATOR
MCGUIRE WILL.
PUSH TO SELL OUT FAST YEAH
HOPEFULLY UPPER DOWN YOU NEVER
KNOW THIS COMMITTEE.
ALRIGHT SIR.
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
FIRST OF ALL I WANNA SAY THANK
YOU TO THAT ONE OF THE HARDEST
WORKING CHAIRS WE HAVE HERE IN
THE STATE SENATE.
FOR ALL THIS HARD WORK. IT
THAT'S OF ITS. I THINK HE JUST
LOST YOUR BILL BUT HE GOT.
DO IF THEY THINK YOU DE TO OF
COURSE THE AYE TO HERTZBERG AS
WELL AS HIS INCREDIBLE STAFF.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK.
WITH THE COPPER DEPARTMENT FISH
AND WILDLIFE THE CRAP FLEET
ENVIRONMENT ORGANIZATIONS TO
DEVELOP FINAL LANGUAGE FOCUS ON
TEMPERATE CRAB FISHERY CLOSURES
WOULDN'T BE TAKING THAT
AMENDMENT. WILL ALSO BE TAKING
THE OTHER TECHNICAL MEANS
ADVANCED BY THE COMMITTEE.
AB MEMBERS ARE STATES COASTLINE
SPANS OVER A THOUSAND MILES FROM
CRESCENT CITY IN THE NORTH TO
SAN DIEGO IN THE SOUTH.
AND. ARE COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL
FISHERIES.
THEY SUPPLY EVERY CORNER OF THIS
GREAT NATION WITH FRESH HEALTHY
WILD CAUGHT SEAFOOD. AND
CALIFORNIA'S AMONG THE TOP
SECRET PRODUCING STATES IN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE
JOINT COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES
AQUACULTURE WHICH I'M GRATEFUL
TO BE ABLE CHAIR WORKS WITH TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF HARD WORKING MEN
AND WOMEN OF THE GOLDEN STATE'S
COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL. GOT
FISHING INDUSTRIES WORTH NINE
BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY I IN
ADVANCE IN ON THIS BILL EVERY
FEW YEARS TO REMEDY ISSUES AND
CHALLENGES LARGE AND SMALL WITH
THOSE FISHING INDUSTRIES. S. B.
THIRTEEN OR NINE ADDRESSES
SEVERAL VARIOUS ISSUES INCLUDING
REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH
WILDLIFE BY JANE REFERS TO
TWENTY TWENTY TO IMPLEMENT
REGULATIONS REQUIRING ALL
TRAPPED IN THE EAST INCLUDE
STANDARDIZE GEAR MARKING. AND
CLEAR IDENTIFICATION OF
OWNERSHIP WHETHER YOU ARE IN A
CRAB FISHERY OR LOBSTER FISHERY
HE WILL HAVE IDENTICAL TYPE
TAGS.
REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT FISH
WILDLIFE TO DEVELOP REGULATIONS
FOR THE RETRIEVAL OF LOS OR MANY
COMMERCIAL CRAB TRAPS BY JUNE
THIRTIETH TWENTY NINETEEN. THIS
IS FOLLOWING UP FROM S. B.
TWELVE EIGHTY SEVEN CONFINED THE
IMPLEMENTS THAT BILL. AUTHORIZES
THE FISH AND GAME COMMISSION TO
CONSIDER REQUEST TO TRANSFER A
HALIBUT PERMIT. BY WHICH.
IS CENTER JACKSON IS VERY
FAMILIAR WITH SHE'S A BIG CALVET
FISH PERSON. I TO ANOTHER VESSEL
OR EQUAL OR LESS CAPACITY OF THE
BILL WHILE SOAKS IN THE
COMMERCIAL SALMON STAMP PROGRAM
A CLEAR FINANCIAL BE TAKE LAW IN
HUMBOLDT BAY TO LINE WITH THE
REST OF CALIFORNIA. IN THE BILL
ALSO COMPLIES A COMPILES ISSUES
THAT AFFECT FISHING IN AND AND
RESOURCE PROTECTION INTO A
SINGLE BILL. MISTER CHAIR WE
HAVE RIGHT TO AMAZING WITNESSES
WITH US TODAY NO OPPENHEIM EXEC
DIRECTOR OF THE PACIFIC COAST
FEDERATION FISHERMAN'S
ASSOCIATION. AND THE MAN THE
MYTH THE LEGEND TOM DEMPSEY
SENIOR FISHERIES PROJECT
DIRECTOR AT THE NATURE.
CONCERN TO BE SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL THANK YOU
FOR YOUR BRIEF COMMENTS.
GENTLEMAN. USAGE CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TO
SPEAK. POSITIVELY TO THIS
IMPORTANT BILL.
PIT.
AS THE SENATOR SAID.
MODERNIZES ARE FISHERIES WHICH
ARE IN DIRE NEED OF SUPPORT.
.
THE US CERTAINLY FROM A
BIOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE
COMMERCIAL FISHERIES IN
CALIFORNIA ARE HURTING WE'VE
AND.
REQUESTED REQUESTING OR.
HAVE HAD DECLARED SEVERAL
FISHER DISASTERS IN RECENT
MEMORY TO THE TUNE OF HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOST
REVENUE AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND WELL OF COURSE THIS BILL
CAN'T BRING FISH BACK FROM THE
BREAK YOU CAN CERTAINLY
MODERNIZE OUR MANAGEMENT
PRACTICES.
TO ENABLE SUSTAINABLE FISHING
TO PERSIST.
FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE WE WANT
TO FISH FOR EVER AND WE WANT TO
MAINTAIN STORAGE OF THE RESOURCE
ON SPEAK TO A COUPLE KEY POINTS
OF THE BILL.
THIS BILL WOULD EXTEND OF THE
SUNSET ON THE COMMERCIALS
CENTRAL ENHANCEMENT RESTORATION
PROGRAM OF THE WAS ON THE SALMON
STAMP.
WHICH IS A TAX THAT FISHMAN
SELF IMPOSED TO RESTORE THE
SALMON FISHERY AYE IT'S A BEACON
OF STE GOOD STEWARDSHIP.
AND BRINGS THAT SPORTSMEN ETHOS
TO COMMERCIAL FISHERIES.
PARTICULARLY THE SALMON
RESOURCE WHICH WE.
NO NEEDS.
ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET US ONE
SPEAK TO.
W. DISSECTION.
.
FIVE. OF THE BILL WHICH IS THE.
DUNGENESS CRAB GEAR IN WORKING
GROUP.
SECTION I I UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE WILL BE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE
TAKING IN THE BILL.
AND WE SUPPORT THE INTENT OF
THE FORMER LANGUAGE AS WELL AS.
THE NEW INTENT LANGUAGE THAT IS
BEING PUT IN AND THEN.
WITH RESPECT TO THE SECTION OF
THE BILL THAT WOULD.
TO RECLASSIFY AREAS OF MONTEREY
BAY AND AND THE OCEAN WATERS OFF
PORTS AND LUIS IS HOW THE TROUT
FISHING GROUNDS. ON THESE AREAS
WERE UNFORTUNATELY LOST TO
COMMERCIAL HOW DID TRAWL FISHING
A LIGHT TOUCH TROLL FISHING ON
THE SOCK BOTTOM SUBSTRATE TIME
DUE TO. UNFORTUNATE TECHNICAL
AIR THIS BILL WOULD RE DESIGNATE
THESE AREAS AS HOW THE TRIAL
AREAS IT WOULD NOT.
FORCE THE FISH AND GAME
COMMISSION TO REOPEN THOSE AREAS
THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE PROCESS
AT WHICH. THE COMMISSION WILL
DELIBERATE AND ADJUDICATE THE
SCIENCE ASSOCIATED WITH MY
OPENING THOSE AREAS.
WE NEED O BE ABLE TO DELIVER A
LOCAL HEALTHY SEAFOOD TWO
CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. CONSUMERS
AND THE STAKEHOLDERS DESPERATELY
NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROSECUTE
RESOURCE THANK YOU SIR AND.
THAT'S LIKE.
GREAT THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
NAMES TOM DEMPSEY AND WITH THE
NATURE CONSERVANCY HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AND I LEAD ARE
SUSTAINABLE FISHERIES WORK.
ALSO A MEMBER OF THE DUNGENESS
CRAB FISHING GEAR WORKING GROUP.
THAT'S MULTI STAKEHOLDER BODY
THAT'S BEEN WORKING TO REDUCE
RISKS OF.
WAILING TENGAN OUR COMMERCIAL
FISHERIES HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
GOING TO SET SUPPORT THE
FISHERIES OMINOUS BUT A BILL AND
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT
INTO DEVELOPING IT. I WON'T
COMMENT ON ALL ASPECTS OF THIS
LEGISLATION I JUST PULL OUT A
COUPLE AYE KEY PARTS THAT I
WANTED TO SUPPORT. HIGH MORE
SPECIFICALLY FIRST TIME
APPRECIATE THE CLEAR SUPPORT IN
THIS BILL FOR THE EFFORTS OF
THIS AYE WHALE AYE
DISENCHANTMENT WORKING GROUP.
WE'RE CURRENTLY PILOTING A RISK
ASSESSMENT IN MITIGATION.
PROGRAM BASICALLY AN EARLY
WARNING SYSTEM FOR ELEVATED RISK
OF WELL ENTANGLEMENT AYE AND A
FRAMEWORK FOR TAKING IMMEDIATE
ACTION TO REDUCE THE RISKS OF
WELL ENTITLEMENT NOT FISHERIES.
I AS WE WORK MOVE FORWARD I WILL
BE WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF FISH WILDLIFE OF THE AUTHOR
AND. YEAR OUT OFFICES TO
IDENTIFY WHAT NEW AUTHORITY I
MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO FULLY
IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM AYE AND
DEFINE THE WORKING GROUP'S ROLE
IN THAT PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
I'M GOING TO CALL OUT AGAIN I
DEAR MARKING AYE PROVISIONS
WHICH ARE CRITICAL TO UP OUR
IMPROVED UNDERSTANDING OF THE
ENTITLEMENT ISSUE.
AND.
BY UNIFYING HOW WE'RE MARKING
COMMERCIAL FISHING HERE WE CAN
ACTUALLY BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT
ISSUE AND AND ADDRESS IT MORE
EFFECTIVELY.
WANTED DID SUPPORT THAT
PROVISIONS FOR THE LAST YEAR
PROGRAM APPRECIATE THE ONGOING
EFFORTS TIED TO CATALYZE AND
SHAPE THE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL
WILDLIFE PROGRAM TO HELP RECOVER
LOST YOUR AT THE END OF THE
SEASON.
WANT TO SEE THAT SUPPORT AND
ALIGNED WITH SUPPORTIVE IN A
LOCAL EFFORTS.
FINALLY ON CALIFORNIA HOW THAT
WE SUPPORT THE CONSIDERATION OF.
ACCESS TO THE IDENTIFIED AREAS
TIME THAT THIS BILL OUTLINES
THINK OUR MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO BE
SCIENCE BASED ON NEEDS TO
BALANCE THE PROTECTION OF
SENSITIVE SEE FOR HABITATS WITH
SUSTAINABLE FISHERIES ACCESS AND
I THINK THIS PROPOSAL DOES THAT
VERY WELL. I'VE FINALLY WE
SUPPORT THAT PERMIT CHANGES IN
CALIFORNIA HOW THAT NOT BECAUSE
OF PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR
HARVESTERS.
WITHOUT UNDERMINING DE.
THE PROTECTION THE RESOURCE
AGAIN THANK YOU THEY URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT ANY FURTHER SUPPORT OF
THIS MEASURE.
ONE OF THEM MADE ON BEHALF OF
AUDUBON CALIFORNIANS TRUCK
SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION.
AB OPPOSE QUESTIONS FROM
MEMBERS.
THE BILL WOULD MOVE BUT WHO.
SHOWN CENTER STONE WOOD TO BUILD
CENTER ALAN'S QUESTION I
DISLIKED AS CENTER SERVERS OF
ENTERING THE BILL ON WOULD LOVE
TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION
ABOUT. HOW YOUR CLAIM WITH
REGARDS TO SENATOR JACKSON'S
LEVEL HOW BUT FISHING?
AND WHAT YOU DON'T SHE IS SHE
HAS.
THE SAME IS SAID SHE GOES
FISHING FOR THE HELL OF IT.
WHO?
ALWAYS REALLY BACK IN THE GET
GO.
.
PETER JACKSON DID SCHEME STINK I
SAW ME TO STOP TALKING.
BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS IN
REGARDS TO OF BOTH THE TWO
GENTLEMAN NEXT ME THIS HAS BEEN
A LONG TIME COMING. I DO
APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT BUT
NO I IN TIME AND BROUGHT
FORWARD.
HIGH INTO THE CHAIR AND YOU WANT
TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TWO
VERY CAPABLE STAFF YOU'RE NOT
RESOURCES WATER. AND WE'RE GOING
TO WORK THROUGH.
THE ISSUES AT THAT WE FIRST
TALKED ABOUT A IN THAT IT IS IN
REGARDS THE TEMPORARY CLOSURES.
CANDIDLY THAT'S A BIT OF A
STICKY ISSUE I AND WE'RE GOING
TO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AND
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HAIR I
IN THE STAFF ALLOW S AT A
DIFFERENT TIME WE SAT DOWN
DIRECTOR BONHAM. I JUST LAST
WEEK I TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
COMPENSATION BUT NUMBER STILL
NOT THERE YET THESE ARE THE FOR
THE MEMBERS WAS THAT A CLOSE.
AT VERY MUCH MAKING OCEAN
SECRETARY COLORADO.
THIS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG AYE
STONE STONE AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
HUESO JACKSON.
THE BILL.
YEAH TEXAN AYE MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE AYE MONNING.
MONNING AYE STERN STERN AYE BY
THE ACT. BY THAT GUY THAT HAS
EIGHT.
WHO PLAYS WHO HOLD OPEN THROUGH
IT WILL NOT GROW OPEN OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH SIR YOU'RE LOOKING
GOOD? UP BY THE NUMBER SEVEN SP
THIRTEEN NO ONE
SENATOR BILL THIRTEEN OH ONE
PHONE NUMBER SEVEN.
SIR
.
SHARMA THANK YOU.
MEMBERS SO.
WE APPRECIATE.
THE STAFFS WORK ON THE BILL AND.
.
THIS IS S. B..
THIRTEEN OH WANNA BILL WILL
HELP EXPEDITE.
FLOOD AND DAM SAFETY PROJECTS
THROUGH INTER AGENCY
COLLABORATION.
ADDITIONALLY THIS BILL IS A
CHANCE TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY
ON PERMIT PROCESSING TIME.
AND.
THAT DATA CAN ALSO HELP INFORM
MANAGEMENT. AND BUDGETARY
DECISIONS.
NOW OVER A YEAR AGO OF FOURTEEN
THOUSAND OF MY CONSTITUENTS.
WERE DISPLACED.
.
BY THE A COYOTE CREEK FLOODS
MISTER CHAIRMAN IT CAUSED OVER
SEVENTY THREE THOUSAND YOU KNOW
ARTS SEVENTY THREE MILLION
DOLLARS WORTH OF DAMAGE.
DAMAGE AND DEVASTATED THE
COMMUNITY.
OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS IN THE
PAST YEAR HAVE PAINFULLY
PAINFULLY DEMONSTRATED. THE TH
THE THREAT THAT THEY POSE TO
HUMAN LIFE THESE FLOOD CONTROL
PROJECTS AND DAM SAFETY
ENHANCEMENT.
CAN REDUCE UNDER THE RISKS OF
NATURAL DISASTERS AND SAVE
LIVES.
THE BILL WOULD PROVIDE HIM A
MECHANISM FOR INTER AGENCY
COLLABORATION. ON PERMIT
PROCESSING FOR FLOOD RISK
REDUCTION AND DAM SAFETY
PROJECTS.
A PROJECT APPLICANT WOULD PAY
FEES TO COVER THE COST OF INTER
AGENCY TEAM. COMPLY COMPRISE A
RAIL OF THE RELEVANT AGENCIES.
THE AGED INTERAGENCY TEAM COULD
IDENTIFY ACTIONS
THAT COULD EXPEDITE THE RECORD
PERMITS DISCUSSING BERMAN
IMPACTS.
THE MITIGATION PROVIDE FEEDBACK
SOUND ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS
AND RESOLVE THE ANY CONFLICTS.
THE PROJECT WOULD STILL BE
SUBJECT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW POD PROCESS INCLUDING
SEQUEL.
AND WE HAVE.
SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL
FROM. SANTA CLARA VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT.
ALTERNATE OVER THEM AND.
ALSO.
.
THE OTHER SPEAKERS MISTER
CHAIRMAN I'LL TURN OVER SPEAKERS
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS MELANIE RICHARDSON I'M THE
CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF
WATERSHEDS FOR THE SENATE CLARA
VALLEY WATER DISTRICT.
ARI OUR AGENCY IS THE WATER
SUPPLY FLOOD PROTECTION GROUND
WATER MANAGEMENT AND STREAM
STEWARDSHIP AGENCY FOR THE
NEARLY TWO MILLION PEOPLE IN
SILICON VALLEY AND SANTA CLARA
COUNTY. WE ARE SPONSORING SB
THIRTEEN NO ONE BECAUSE
DELIVERING FLOOD PROTECTION AND
DAM SAFETY PROJECTS IN A TIMELY
FASHION IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY
DIFFICULT. OUR BOARD OF
DIRECTORS FULLY SUPPORT SEQUEL.
AND THE MEASURES NECESSARY TO
MITIGATE THE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACTS OF OUR PROJECTS BUT WE
NEED THE PROCESS TO WORK BETTER.
WITHOUT COMPROMISING
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR
FLOOD PROTECTION AND DAM SAFETY
PROJECTS REQUIRE THAT WE WORKING
RIVERS STREAMS THE RIPARIAN
CORRIDOR SENT ALONG SAN
FRANCISCO BAY. SO THERE'S
UNDERSTANDABLY A LARGE NUMBER OF
STATE AND FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL
PERMITTING AGENCIES WITH
JURISDICTION IN THESE AREAS.
BEGINNING A MAJOR FLOOD RISK
REDUCTION PROJECT OR DAM SAFETY
PROJECTS THROUGH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND PERMIT
PROCESS. TAKES YEARS AND THAT
TIMELINE HAS GONE LONGER OR
LONGER IN RECENT YEARS AS THE
NUMBER OF PERMIT APPLICATIONS
HAVE INCREASED BUT THE STAFF
RESOURCES. FOR STATE PERMITTING
AGENCIES HAS NOT.
THESE AGENCIES ARE OPERATING IN
TRIAGE MODE MEANING THEY REALLY
ONLY HAVE THE TIME TO ENGAGE IN
THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS BEFORE
THEM AND VERY LITTLE CAPACITY TO
DO THE IMPORTANT WORK IN EARLY
CONSULTATION. DURING PLANNING
DESIGN AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW
OF PROJECTS. SO UNFORTUNATELY
THE LACK OF THEIR ABILITY TO
FULLY ENGAGE EARLY IN THE
PROCESS IS A CONCERT SIGNIFICANT
CONTRIBUTOR TO DELAYS IN ISSUING
ENVIRONMENT PERMITS.
DURING PERMIT REVIEW STATE
PERMITTING AGENCIES HAVING NOT
FULLY ENGAGED IN THE SEQUEL
PROCESS MAY IDENTIFY
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS NOT
CONTEMPLATED IN THE APPROVED III
ARE. AND THEN SEEK MITIGATION OF
THOSE IMPACTS AS A CONDITION OF
PERMIT. THE RESULT OF THIS
DELAYED STATE AGENCY ENGAGEMENT
IS COSTLY PROJECT REDESIGNS
UNPLANNED MITIGATION COSTS AND
MOST CONCERNING SIGNIFICANT
DELAYS AND THE LIFE SAFETY
PROJECTS SUCH AS FLOOD
PROTECTION. AND DAM SAFETY
PROJECTS. DELAYED ENGAGEMENT
ALSO FOSTERS A LESS TRANSPARENT
NEGOTIATION BETWEEN ONLY THE
PROJECT APPLICANT IN THE ONE
SPECIFIC AGENCY YOU'RE
NEGOTIATING WITH. AND LEAVES OUT
ALL OF THE ABOVE REMAINING STAKE
HOLDERS WHO ARE AFFECTED BY
THAT.
PROCESS. SB THIRTEEN NO ONE WILL
REMEDY THESE ISSUES BY DOING THE
TWO THINGS SENATOR BELL
DISCUSSED.
AND THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT
THAT WERE ASKING FOR IN THIS.
IT IS.
FOURTH LIMITED TO JUST FLOOD
RISK REDUCTION IN DAM SAFETY
PROJECTS AND IT WON'T BE
REQUIRED UNTIL TWENTY TWENTY ONE
SO THAT IT WILL GIVE AGENCIES
ENOUGH TIME. TO DEVELOP A METHOD
FOR TRACKING.
WHAT IT DOES IT PROVIDES A
FRAMEWORK FOR MULTIPLE STATE AND
FEDERAL AGENCIES TO ENGAGE EARLY
IN THE DESIGN OF FLOODING DAM
SAFETY PROJECTS AND TO STAY
ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL AND PERMIT
APPROVED APPROVAL PROCESS? IT
WILL ALLOW INTER AGENCY
COLLABORATION TO MAKE FLOODING
DAM SAFETY PROJECTS BETTER AND
TO AVOID COSTLY TIME CONSUMING
SURPRISES DURING THE PERMITTING
PROCESS. THIS MECHANISM IS
MODELED AFTER SIMILAR FRAMEWORK
THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY DEVELOPED
BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL
REGULATE REGULATE. REGULATORS
THEMSELVES. IN ORDER TO REDUCE
PERMITTING TIME FOR THE MULTI
BENEFIT RESTORATION PROJECTS.
AROUND SAN FRANCISCO BAY AS PART
OF THE MEASURE A A PERMITTING
PROCESS.
UNDER THE BILL THAT WE'RE
PROPOSING TODAY PROJECT
APPLICANTS WOULD SUBMIT A PRE
APPLICATION TO THE AGENCIES THEY
NEED ON AN INTERAGENCY TEAM
CONVENED AT THE APPLICANT'S
EXPENSE AND IF YOU MUTUALLY
AGREED WITH STATE AGENCIES. THE
TEAMS COULD BE CO LOCATED FOR A
PRESCRIBED PERIOD TO FOSTER
COOPERATION.
THE INTERAGENCY TEAM WOULD
DISCUSS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
POTENTIAL MITIGATION PROVIDE
FEEDBACK IDENTIFY ACTIONS
OCURRED EXPERT. EXPEDITE THE
PERMIT AND INVOLVE THOSE
CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE AGENCIES
WHEN THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN
OPINION BETWEEN THE AGENCIES ARE
WE DONE ALL IN ONE PLACE.
IT WOULD RESULT IN COLLABORATION
FOCUSED ON THE TIMELY DELIVERY
OF VITAL FLOOD RISK REDUCTION
AND STEM SAFETY PROJECTS.
MORE RESOURCES AND BETTER
PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR STATE
PERMITTING AGENCIES AND MORE
COMPLETE PERMIT APPLICATIONS
THIS BILL WILL DELIVER FLOOD AND
DAM SAFETY PROJECT PERMITTING
FASTER. SMARTER AND WITHOUT
COMPROMISING ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION I URGE YOUR SUPPORT
ON S. B. THIRTY NO ONE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
BECAUSE OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS RICHARD GIBSON AND THE DEPUTY
ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER FOR THE
GOVERNOR RELATIONS DIVISION IN
THE SANTA CLARA VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT. I'M HERE TO HELP
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE AN URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE
BILL.
CLAIMS OWNERSHIP GO CLIMB THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THE SIMPSON'S
QUESTION REINSTITUTE NAM WALLETS
MIGHT SOUND LKE A GREENY FISH
HUNGER ADVOCACY GROUP IT'S NOT.
THE INSTITUTE IS A NON ADVOCACY
SCIENCE THINK TANK OF SIXTY
SCIENTISTS AND TECHNICIANS IT
WAS CREATED ABOUT TWENTY FIVE
YEARS AGO AS A PARTNERSHIP
BETWEEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND
WATER AGENCIES. IT'S A SCIENCE
BASED ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND
CONSULTING FIRM I'M NOT A
SCIENTIST ON MORE OF THE POLICY
WANT POLITICAL HACK THE TRIES TO
WORK WITH BRIDGE ARE SCIENTISTS
WITH GOVERNMENT LEADERS.
WE PROVIDE INDEPENDENT
OBJECTIVE SCIENCE AND TOOLS TO
SUPPORT LOCAL REGIONAL STATE
RESOURCE MANAGERS ON POLICY
ISSUES. LIKE WATER LANDSCAPE. OF
MANAGEMENT AND MORE RECENTLY
WITH INCREASED.
WHETHER FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND
URBAN GREEN CLIMATE ADAPTATION
ISSUES FULL DISCLOSURE OF THE
WATER DISTRICT IS ONE OF ABOUT
FIFTY ENTITIES THAT WE SERVE.
WITH OVER ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
COMPLETED STUDIES I NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA MY REASON FOR COMING
IN SUPPORTING THIS BILL IS THIS
WERE EXPERTS WHO FOCUS ON
SCIENCE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING
ISSUES BUT IS LOCAL AND REGIONAL
AGENCIES TACKLE MULTIPLE CLIMATE
ADAPTATION ISSUES. LIKE FLOOD
CONTROL SEA LEVEL RISE WATERSHED
MANAGEMENT THE REAL CHALLENGE
SEEMS TO BE GOVERNMENTS AND THE
TIME IT TAKES TO COORDINATE THE
EFFORTS OF MULTIPLE AGENCIES.
ARE TRYING TO TACKLE THESE
TIMELY CHALLENGES ESPECIALLY
WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES LIKE FLOOD
MANAGEMENT. THIS BILL TAKES A
CAUTIOUS BUT I THINK A VERY
IMPORTANT INITIAL STEP TO
ADDRESS THAT INTER AGENCY
COORDINATION CHALLENGE FOR BOTH
FLOOD MANAGEMENT DAM SAFETY.
THOSE HABITATS ARE ON THE
FRONTLINE OF CLIMATE ISSUES LIKE
INTERTIDAL ZONES COAST RIVERS
WETLANDS AREAS SUBJECT TO A
FLOOD MANAGEMENT CHALLENGES ARE
BASICALLY SORT OF THE BEIRUT
BENGHAZI BAGHDAD OF LAND USE
POLIKARPOV SEE. IT'S GOT MORE
LAWS MORE LAWYERS MORE NIMBIS
MORE GREEN IS MORE ADVOCATES
THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER LANDSCAPE
IN CALIFORNIA SO FOR FORTY YEARS
DECISIONS ON THOSE HABITATS HAS
MOVED VERY SLOW. BUT WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE WE NEED YOUR
LEADERSHIP TO FIND WAYS TO
BALLOTS PROTECTING THE HABITATS
WHILE FINDING A NEED FOR MORE
EFFICIENT.
POLICY MAKING TO ADDRESS
CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES AND AT
THAT TIMELY MANNER WE THINK UP
SP THIRTEEN NO ONE IS A GREAT
STEP.
THANKS FOR.
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE.
SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION.
ANY QUESTIONS HOPE.
THE WAS CHAIRMAN MEMBERS KNOW
OPPENHEIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
PC OF A FERRY.
ENCOURAGING YOU TO.
OPPOSING LESSON ENDED.
WHILE I VALUE THE THE HUMAN
SAFETY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH
THIS BILL AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND
THE NEED TO EXPEDITE PERMITS.
APPLICATIONS THE PAY TO PLAY.
CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY THE POTENTIAL LACK
OF TRANSPARENCY ISSUES
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BILL ARE
HIGHLY CONCERNING TO US AS AN
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT
RELIES ON THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT
REQUEST. PUBLIC RECORDS ASKED
REQUESTS TO DAYLIGHT ELECTRONIC
COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN PUBLIC
AGENCIES. THE CO LOCATION IN THE
PHYSICAL SENSE OF AGENCY STAFF
IS ACTUALLY IN MY VIEW A DIRECT
RUN AROUND OF SORT OF
TRANSPARENCY OF A PUBLIC
AGENCIES INSIDE ENCOURAGE MOTHER
IN THE FILE WOULD HAVE A LETTER
ON THIS HE ADDED NOT SIR BECAUSE
I. HAD THIS BILL WAS AND THEN IT
IS PUT IN THE FOR THE RECORD SO
WE HAVE IN THE FILE BUT YES SIR
ABSOLUTION APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
THING UP THANK YOU SO MUCH
ANYTHING ELSE.
SENATE STONE NOTHING IN HIS
CHAIR AND INTO THE CERTAINLY WE
WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO
EXPEDITE PROJECTS TO REDUCE.
.
FLOODING RISK OR OR SAFETY FOR
FOR DAMS BUT.
CENTER BUILDING YOU CAN JUST
KIND OF.
NAVIGATE ME A LITTLE BIT TO THE
BILL IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME WERE
RECRUITING A NEW BUREAUCRACY.
TO IT AND TO BASICALLY HELP
PEOPLE GET THROUGH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL.
PERMITTING PROCESS WHICH IS
ONEROUS AS WE KNOW.
AND I'M CONCERNED OVER CREATING
ANOTHER LEVEL OF BUREAUCRACY
THAT.
MAY TIE THINGS UP EVEN MORE.
RIGHT AND YOU KNOW WE. WE WAIVE
CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL.
LAWS FOR FOR STADIUMS IN HERE
WHEN WE HAVE A A MAJOR.
PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT THAT'S
NEEDED WHY NOT TO SWAY SOME
ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING TO GET
THE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED IN THE
BEST INTERESTS OF THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.
LIKE NEDA.
IT'S RESPONSE OF.
WELL.
.
YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO WAVE A LOT LAWS.
TO GET.
PROJECTS THAT. FLOOD FOURTEEN
THOUSAND.
PEOPLE.
I THINK THERE ARE TO BE
EMERGENCY DECORATIONS AND LIKE
TO GET THOSE PROJECTS.
GOING.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE LAW DOES.
I'VE WE HAD THAT IF WE HAD THAT
KIND OF LAW WE COULD OF.
MOVE MUCH MORE FAST.
ON A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS OKAY.
THAT'S THAT'S TRUE.
DOES THIS CREATE ANOTHER NEW
BROCK PROCEED NOW.
WHAT THIS DOES IS MAKE THE
BUREAUCRACY SIT DOWN? AND RATHER
THAN DO THINGS.
KINDA LIKE WE DO IN THE
LEGISLATURE YOU ON A COMPARATIVE
THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS.
WE GO FROM ONE COMMITTEE TO THE
NEXT COMMITTEE TO THE NEXT TO ME
TO THE FLOOR THAT WE GO TO THE
ASSEMBLY. NEXT COMMITTEE NEXT TO
ME THINK OF OUT LIKE OF LIKE A
GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY THIS
REVIEWING A PROJECT.
OKAY.
WHAT THIS DOES IS IT TREATS THEM
LIKE THE HOUSE OF CARDINALS
LOCKS THE DOOR?
AND WHEN THE WHITES FOLKS COME
OUT YOU HAVE A SOLUTION YOU CAN
GO TO THE PUBLIC. TELLME HERE'S
WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS AND HERE'S
HOW WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM DOESN'T
CREATE A NEW BUREAUCRACY.
AND THAT MAKES THEM WORK
TOGETHER HUNDRED DOT AND I THINK
I TAKE IT ALSO REQUIRES.
PERMITTING PROCESSING
TRANSPARENCY BY REQUIRING MORE
REPORTING MORE INFORMATION SO
PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT THE RESULTS
ARE AND MAKE MAKE THEIR OPINION
KNOWN ON THOSE.
ON THOSE DECISIONS.
SO IF YOU'RE FOR.
.
FEEL LIKE PROCESS DON'T VOTE FOR
THIS BILL.
PLEASE
FEEL LIKE IT.
DON'T VOTE FOR THIS BILL IF YOU
HAVE A FLUTTER HE HAVE A FIRE
YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE QUICKLY.
AND A TRANSPARENCY VOTE FOR THIS
BILL BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THIS
BILL DOES.
I THINK THAT'S ANSWER QUESTION
DOESN'T CREATE ANY NEW
BUREAUCRACY AT ALL OKAY IT'LL
SAVE MONEY BECAUSE. YOU KNOW YOU
CAN GET PROJECTS OUT QUICKER.
THAT MEANS THE THE COST OF THE
PROJECTS WILL BE LESS.
ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE
MEMBERS.
SENATE JACKSON.
YES I THINK.
.
WE WE HAVE TO SEPARATE OUT HERE
THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF IF.
IF WE ARE DOING A PROJECT WHERE
THERE IS SOME.
OF URGENCY TO IT AND OF COURSE
FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS WE'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THIS FOR
YEAR WE'VE IGNORED OUR LIVE THE
SITUATION AND ARE. IN A WE JUST
HAVEN'T PUT THE MONEY INTO
EVERYTHING IS JUST SORT OF. GONE
THE WAY IT IS UNTIL WE GET INTO
AN EMERGENCY SITUATION TO CRISIS
IN THAT WE RESPOND.
AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE ARE
THERE AND.
I THINK THE OF THE GOAL TO TRY
TO MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG
AS-QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. A IS.
NECESSITATED BY THE URGENCY OF
THE SITUATION.
IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE
ARE MOVING INTO IN DUE COURSE
AND THERE IS NO URGENCY THAN.
HAVING OF THE FULL FLOW OF IDEAS
AND I WOULD SUBMIT NOW IN MY
TWELFTH YEAR IN THE LEGISLATURE.
THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID
FOR BILLS HAVING TO GO THROUGH A
SERIES.
OF HEARINGS AND ADJUSTMENTS AND
TWEAKING AND MAKE IT THAT MAKE
BILLS BETTER THAT'S WHY WE HAVE
A BICAMERAL LEGISLATURE SO THAT.
IT IT MAY SEEM ONEROUS TO US IN
THE PROCESS BUT I THINK MOST OF
US. AGREE AT THE END OF THE DAY
WE COME OUT WITH A BETTER
PRODUCT.
IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THEN
YOU CANNOT DO YOU DON'T HAVE THE
LUXURY OF NECESSARILY DOING IT
THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.
A AND I THINK WE HAVE TO
DIFFERENTIATE AT YOU KNOW AGAIN
IT'S IT'S BASH GOVERNMENT AGAIN
LET'S GO YOU KNOW THE THE NOTION
THAT WHAT DIDN'T LET ME FINISH
CERTIFY ME.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS
BECAUSE I SUPPORT YOUR BILL SO.
DON'T PUSH ME.
IN THE OTHER DIRECTION UNDER GOD
IS DEAD IN THE ONE OF THE SO SO
I WAS CRASHING GOVERNMENT LOCATE
NO MEAT YOU WANT A GUIDE THE
NOTION THAT WE HEAR THIS MANTRA
OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS IS ONEROUS
XIN. YOU KNOW WE NEED TO DEAL
WITH THE SAFETY OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS ACTUALLY PART OF
THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS IS FOR
THE SAFETY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS
WE ASK ABOUT WATER QUALITY AIR
QUALITY WE ASK ABOUT.
CONDITIONS.
THAT WOULD. PLACE A BURDEN AND
DESTROY QUALITY F LIFE ISSUES
FOR OUR WILDLIFE AND SO FORTH
SO.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE
BETWEEN WHEN WE'RE IN A
SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT TO
MOVE QUICKLY.
AND PART OF THEIR FRANKLY IS
BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MOVE QUICKLY
GOING FORWARD WE'VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES FLOOD
FLOOD ISSUES FOR A LONG TIME.
NOW EXACERBATED BY CLIMATE TROLL
CONTROL.
CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH
IS SHE IN GREAT MEASURE DUE TO
THE FACT THAT WE CONTINUE TO
USE.
OF FOSSIL FUELS WHICH NINETY
NINE POINT NINE PERCENT THE
SCIENTISTS KNOW ARE BAD FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT. WELL HERE WE ARE
SO.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TO
DIFFERENTIATE MY CAN ALSO TELL
YOU THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES
WHERE EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS ARE
AVAILABLE AND THEY GIVE ENORMOUS
POWERS TO MOVE QUICKLY. ABOUT
WHEN WE ARE IN THAT KIND OF
CIRCUMSTANCE BUT I SUPPORT THIS
IDEA THIS THIS THIS LEGISLATION.
BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT WE
HAVE SAT ON OUR HANDS WAY TOO
LONG AND WE'VE GOT TO MOVE BUT I
DO HAVE A CONCERN SHARON I WOULD
ASK IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER GOING
FORWARD.
THE CONCERNS ABOUT SECRECY AND
AND YOU KNOW THIS PROCESS IN
THESE PROCESSES AS A DEMOCRACY
WE STILL. TALK ABOUT OPEN
GOVERNMENT WE TALK ABOUT AN OPEN
PROCESS AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT
EVERYBODY IN A ROOM AND AS YOU
POINT OUT YOU KNOW YOU LOCK THE
DOORS AND YOU HAVE THEM IN.
IN DARKNESS HERE OF PEOPLE ON
THE OUTSIDE WONDERING WHAT'S
GOING ON.
BY AND I THINK IN A DEMOCRACY
THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE CONCERNED
SO I WOULD I JUST SIMPLY ASK
THAT YOU OF MAKE A COMMITMENT TO
CONTINUE WORKING ON SOME OF WHAT
I THINK ARE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES I'VE WORKED WITH
HIM FOR YEARS.
YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN
TRANSPARENCY.
TO TRY TO LOOK AT THIS AND TO
BUILDING TRANSPARENCY AS THIS
PROCESS GO FORWARD. AND I WOULD
ASK YOU TO TO COMMENT ON THAT
PORTION THE OTHER WAS OBVIOUSLY
CHOSE MY RESPONDING TO SOME OF
THE COMMENTS AND I'M FRANKLY
GETTING KIND OF TIRED OF HEARING
ABOUT THAT. ARE NOT NECESSARILY
ACCURATE BUT IT'S FUN TO BASH.
TUB PROCESS THAT YOU DON'T LIKE
SO. THAT THAT ISN'T THE ISSUE
HERE THE ISSUE IS THE
TRANSPARENCY. WELL.
JUST JUSTO RESPONDED TO HER.
ARE NOT BETTING GOVERNMENT BUT
DUH ALSO THERE'S CHRIS NO WAY
THAT WE CAN SAY THAT PROCESS
THAT WE HAVE NOW. IS AS
EXPEDITIOUS AGREE WOULD BE AGREE
THOUGH THE WHOLE IDEA OF.
CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVING THE
PROCESS.
WHICH IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN.
AND WE ACTUALLY CONSTITUTED THAT
IN THE TRANSPORTATION BILL LAST
YEAR I KNOW IT'S IN THERE IT
MAKES CALTRANS. MAY HAVE A SENSE
OF URGENCY GETTING THE PROJECTS
DONE. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT
CREATES A PERMITTING PROCESS
TRANSPARENCY? BY BY HAVING
REPORTS GO TO THE LEGISLATURE IT
DOESN'T CHANGE THE PUBLIC
HEARING NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR
ANY OF THESE PROJECTS. IT IT IT
TO OF IT IT IT WILL HELP
POLICYMAKERS.
SIT DOWN AND WORK OUT THE THOSE
SOLUTIONS.
THIS TO THE PROJECTS.
AND IT IT'S OF ACTUALLY THE WAY
IT WORKS IS.
IT'S AT THE REQUEST OF THE
APPLICANT YOU CAN UPHOLD YOU CAN
REQUEST.
THAT THIS INNER AGENCY.
TEAMWORK APPROACH
BE USED.
TO.
REVIEW AND APPROVE AND PROCESS
PERMITS SO IT IT'S IT'S KIND OF.
.
A POCESS THAT IS DIFFERENT.
THAN WHAT I CALL THE SEQUENTIAL
SLOW MO PROCESS WHICH I DON'T.
I I DON'T LIKE I THINK THAT'S
THE BEING A GOVERNMENT TODAY'S
IS TAKES TOO LONG. IT INCREASES
COSTS SO I I THINK WE CAN. MAKE
THE PROCESS WORK BETTER. OKAY
AND AND THAT'S SO I I'M I'M AN
EFFICIENCY GUY I'D LIKE TO SEE
THESE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS.
MY WHOLE CAREER HAS BEEN MADE
MADE DOING THAT. SO SO I I I
THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE THE
PROCESS BETTER. AND FOR THESE
KIND OF PROJECTS IT CERTAINLY
WILL HELP IF WE HAVE THE INTER
AGENCY COLLABORATION SO THAT'S
AND AND I'M NOT THAT'S NOT THE
PART OF THIS BILL THAT I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT ITS IN THAT.
CREATING THOSE GREATER
EFFICIENCIES I I DON'T THINK
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS ALSO
CREATE GREATER SECRECY AND I'M
JUST ASKING YOU TO GIVE
CONSIDERATION TO HADA.
TO HOW TO ASSURE THAT THERE IS
THAT OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY.
AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
GREATER EFFICIENCY.
WELL I THINK THE AGENCY THAT'S
THAT'S WORKING WITH ME.
WELL COMMITTED TO OPEN ON SECRET
PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT ERIKA BECAUSE QUITE
FRANKLY.
THAT'S GOOD THAT'S GOOD
BUSINESS.
IT'S GOOD BUSINESS TO TELL
PEOPLE EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE
GETTING THERE FURTHER DOLLARS.
AND I I THINK THE AGENCY WILL DO
THAT OKAY SO.
WHAT ARE COMMON ON THAT YES
THANK YOU SIR APPRECIATE THAT
YES I I WANTED TO NOTICE THE
SENATOR STATED?
THAT THIS PROCESS WILL ACTUALLY
MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE
THE AGENCIES WILL GET BE GETTING
TOGETHER DURING THE PLANNING SO
WHEN YOU GO OUT WITH THE SECRET
DOCUMENT ALL OF THE THOUGHTS OF
THE AGENCIES WILL BE OUT THERE.
RIGHT NOW SOME OF THAT HAPPENS
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AFTER THE
SECRET DOCUMENT IS COMPLETED.
AND AND THIS IS A THIS IS AN
IDEA THAT THE AGENCIES
THEMSELVES CAME UP WITH.
SO THEY ARE ALL IN SUPPORT OF
IT.
THANK YOU PATRICIA OKAY ANY
FURTHER FOR THE MEMBERS.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION.
THE MOVE BY SENATE JACKSON
SENATOR BILL.
TAKE ANYTHING THANK YOU VERY
MUCH URGE AYE VOTE.
SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASSTO
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY SENATORS
HERTZBERG AYE AYE HERTZBERG AYE
STONE.
ALLEN.
ALLEN AYE HUESO JACKSON JACKSON
AYE MCGUIRE. MONEY.
STERN A STERN I BIDAK. BY THAT
GUY.
IT HAS FIVE THAT WAS PULLING
FIVE VOTES WILL HOLD A FULL MOON
CALL FILE IT AND THANK YOU
CENTER BELL THE THANK YOU GOOD
HEARING COULD VIOLATED NUMBER
ELEVEN. SP THIRTEEN SIXTEEN
SENATOR GLAZER FILE ITEM ELEVEN
S. B. EIGHTEEN SIXTEEN.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GLAZER OFF ROAD
VEHICULAR RECREATION BUSINESS
SENATOR ALLEN SECRETARY OF
EXPERTISE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GLAZER.
AT THAT SENATOR GLAZERS.
NOTABLY.
BUT IT SENATOR.
THAT'S A DEMOTION ALL IN THIS
TOGETHER.
THERE'S NO TO MOTION.
MISTER CHAIR I SAID THAT
CHAIRMAN THANK YOU FOR HEARING
THIS BILL. YOUR STAFF IN THE
ANALYSIS OF SUGGESTED SUBJECTS
AMENDMENTS WHICH I'M HAPPY TO
ACCEPT THANK YOU I'M. SO FOLKS
THAT THIS IS ABOUT AYE AYE A
CONTROVERSIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY
ABLE TO TAKE THOSE SERVING IN
THE GEO COMMITTEE OKAY SO I
APPRECIATE THAT WILL TAKE UP
JUST FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES
THANK YOU.
I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
ALL I KNOW HE RAIL THEIR TRAIN
OF THOUGHT CONTROVERSIAL
FEASIBLE YEAH.
THE.
THIS IS ABOUT A. A PEACEFUL AND
IN MY DISTRICT STONE IS THE
ALAMEDA TESLA EXPANSION IT'S
RIGHT NEXT TO AN EXISTING OFF
ROAD. VEHICLE PARKED IT'S BEEN
THERE FOR.
FORTY FIVE FORTY EIGHT YEARS.
.
THEY.
THAT AS YOU KNOW WE COLLECT
FEES FROM FOLKS WHO ENGAGE IN
THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND GOES
INTO A FUND AND THEY. ATTEMPT TO
USE IT TO US EXPAND.
AND AND SUPPORT THE
RECREATIONAL. OFFER A
RECREATIONAL VEHICLE ACTIVITIES
AROUND THE STATE SO IN THEIR
WISDOM THEY DECIDED TO PURCHASE
THIS. PIECE OF LAND.
AND IT'S BEEN GOING THAT IT'S
BEEN MIRED IN CONTROVERSY GOING
TO THE WHOLE.
PROJECT UP.
PROCESS III ARE PROCESS AND
I'VE IT'S IT'S MY LOOK INTO THE
SENATE.
EVEN BEFORE MY ELECTION OF THE
SENATE I WAS QUITE AWARE OF THE
CONTROVERSIES GOING ON OUT THERE
IN PHILLY SPENT SOME TIME TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND IT.
I GOT OUT THERE LOOKED AT IT
TALK TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN
IT TRY TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE
SOME RESOLUTION TO THIS
CONTROVERSY WHICH WAS REALLY
RESULTING IN NOTHING EXCEPT FOR
LAWYER FEES.
I UNFORTUNATELY AS I LOOKED AT
IT CAREFULLY THAT'S ALL I SEE IN
THE FUTURE FOR THIS PIECE OF
FOR.
A OF UP UP PROJECTS SO HOT ME
ALONG WITH THAT MORE THAN A
DOZEN BAY AREA LEGISLATORS WROTE
TO THE DEPARTMENT.
PARK AND RECREATION.
ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WOULD
CONSIDER.
.
SELLING THIS PIECE OF LAND
TAKING GET ALL THE MONEY BACK
INTO THE OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLE
FIND. AND LOOK FOR SOMETHING
THAT WAS BETTER. THOUGHT THE
ANSWER FROM THE DEPARTMENT WAS
THAT.
I THAT IF THE IF THE IF THEY
WANTED TO SELL THE LAND THEY
NEEDED LEGISLATION EVEN MAKE
THAT OPTION POSSIBLE.
THEY FELT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE
AUTHORITY UNDER UNDER THE LAW
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY
THAT'S WHY THIS BILL IS BEFORE
YOU. IT DOESN'T MANDATE ANYTHING
IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THAT
ACTIVITY OF OFF ROAD RIDING.
WITH YOU LIKE IT OR WHETHER YOU
DON'T.
IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS THE RIGHT IF THEY
DECIDE THAT THIS PROCESS HAS
GONE ON LONG ENOUGH. IT DOESN'T
SEEM TO BE HEADING TO A VERY
GOOD RESOLUTION. THAT THERE'S AN
OPPORTUNITY GET THAT MONEY BACK
AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING BETTER
THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. AND THAT'S
WHY THIS BILL IS UP BEFORE YOU.
I'M PLEASED TO HAVE SUPPORT
FROM THE SIERRA CLUB AND A
SPEAKER HERE REPRESENTING THEM
AS WELL AS OTHERS AND I WELCOME
YOUR QUESTIONS.
VERY ANY FOR FIVE FOR YOURS.
PARTISAN.
I GOTCHA. CATHERINE PHILLIPS
SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA.
I JUST WANTED NOTE THAT.
WE HAVE MEMBERS OF WELL WE HAVE
MEMBERS ALL OVER THE STATE
PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA.
THAT HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN
WHAT IN TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT
IS COMMONLY CALLED TESLA PARK.
OUR LOCAL CHAPTERS PART OF
SOMETHING CALLED THE ULTIMATE
LANDFILL OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR EXPENDING
LOCAL OPEN SPACE MITIGATION
FUNDS AND THAT HAS OFFERED TO
USE.
ITS LOCAL FUNDS TO HELP PURCHASE
THIS LAND TO PUT IT BACK INTO
PRESERVATION WHY DO WE CARE SO
MUCH ABOUT THIS WELL IT'S A
BIODIVERSITY HOTSPOT IT'S PLACES
BEEN STUDIED BY SCIENTISTS FOR
EONS INCLUDING. AND NATURALISTS
INCLUDING JOHN YOUR HIMSELF.
AND.
IT'S GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS
BLUE OAK WOODLAND AND GRASSLAND
BUT THAT DOESN'T DO THE PLACE
JUSTICE BECAUSE IT'S OTHER IT'S
UNLIKE OTHER WOODLANDS AND
GRASSLANDS IN THE REGION BECAUSE
OF THE BIODIVERSITY RICHNESS.
IT.
IS WHERE TO KINDA BIOTECHS
BIOTIC BY POLITIC SYSTEMS COME
TOGETHER.
THE.
MOIST CHO STRANGE AND THE NORTH
EDGE OF THE DRY SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY SO IT JUST CREATES THIS
REALLY INTERESTING. PLACE WHERE
THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS
OF SPECIES THEIR FORTIES TO
SPECIAL STATUS WILDLIFE SPECIES.
THERE INCLUDING EIGHT FEDERALLY
OUR STATE LISTED IN CANDIDATES
SPECIES THIRTEEN SPECIAL SPECIES
AND TWENTY EIGHT LOCAL RARE
PLANT SPECIES.
SEVEN SENSITIVE COMMUNITIES
IT'S BEEN DESIGNATED CRITICAL
HABITAT FOR THE CALIFORNIA RED
LEGGED FROG.
AND THE ALAMEDA WITH SNAKE THE
CALIFORNIA RED LEGGED FROG IS.
OFTEN THOUGHT OF AS THE JUMPING
FROG FROM CALAVERAS COUNTY.
IT'S A CRITICAL LINKAGE
WILDLIFE HABITAT QUARTER I CAN
GO ON AND ON AND I WON'T.
THIS BILL WILL ALLOW SCIENTISTS
IN THE PUBLIC TO VIEW AND STUDY
A STUNNING AND CONTINUE TO STUDY
A STUNNING BIOLOGICALLY RICH AND
INCREASING INCREASINGLY RARE
HABITAT.
IT'S A RELATIVELY SHORT DRIVE
FROM THE HEARTS OF THE BAY AREA
AND THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. THE
AREA'S SCREAMS OUT FOR GOOD
RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP THIS
BILL WILL OPEN A PATHWAY TO
PROVIDE THE KIND OF STEWARDSHIP
IT WARRANTS. AND I URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT THE BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. OTHERS IN
SUPPORT.
GOOD LUCK WE DID AFTERNOON
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS DOUG
HOUSTON REPRESENTING EAST BAY
REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION
THANK YOU SUSAN.
MISTER CHAIR MARK FENCE MAKE A
MAP OF THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IN
SUPPORT.
MARK.
WELL BRIAN IT WORKING WITH
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY
IN SUPPORT AND TWO OF THE TWO
SMALLER GROUPS AT WORK LOCALLY
ON THIS ASKED ME TO EXPRESS
THEIR SUPPORT AS WELL THE
ALAMEDA CREEK ALLIANCE. AND
FRIENDS OF THE ARIUS THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THANK
YOU.
IN THE COURT OF THE MEAT ON ON
BEHALF OF OTTOMAN CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT.
THEY DID NOT ANSWER.
YEAH HI HI NANCY UP RODRIGUEZ I
LIVE IN THE A COMMUNITY THAT'S
VERY CLOSE TO THE SPARK BACK SO
I CAN SEE IT FROM MY HOPE FOR MY
HOME. IS SO THE BEAM BEGINNING
OF IT ARM.
I A ARE OF IN SUPPORT OF THE OF
THIRTEEN SIXTEEN SIMPLE THIRTEEN
SIXTEEN DOWN DAHLE. GIVEN FOR
THE LATE START STARTING TODAY OF
THE MEETING NIGHT THERE WERE
SEVERAL GROUPS THAT WILL ALSO
SUBMITTED LETTERS AND WE'RE
COMING IN THE MORNING.
AND THEY PLAN TO SPEAK SOLVE
AMBERLEY ON THEIR BEHALF I LIKE
TO ADD. SURE OKAY. PRINTS OF THE
VINEYARDS THE ALONG THE AUDUBON
SOCIETY SAY MOUNT DIABLO TESLA
ROAD RESIDENTS ALLIANCE.
TRY DALY TRAIL TRAILBLAZERS THE
HILL HIKERS CSUS ASIDE AMERICAN
INDIANS. AND OTHER CONFIRM
LETTERS ARE COMING ARE A CITY OF
LIVERMORE LIVE MORE RECREATION%
PARK DISTRICT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR
COMING WHICH IMAGE.
DAVID TAMA OF THE OF THE
SUSTAINABILITY PARKS.
RECYCLING AND WILDLIFE LEGAL
DEFENSE FUND ACRONYM SPRAWLED
IF.
WE'VE BEEN ON THIS BECAUSE FOR
OVER TWENTY YEARS.
AS OF ALL THREE OF OUR DIRECTORS
WERE INSTRUMENTALLY INVOLVED.
IN CREATING THE FUND THAT IS NOW
ADMINISTERED BY THE ALAMEDA OR
THE ALMA LANCELOT IN SPACE
COMMITTEE. THAT PROVIDES
POTENTIAL.
MEANS OF PARTIAL OR FULL
ACQUISITION THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU KINDLY.
ANYONE ELSE AND IN OPPOSITION.
AND. OPPOSITION.
OKAY.
I NURSING THE OPPOSING.
GLAZER BILL BEFORE US COULD BE
INTERESTING.
OKAY MA'AM MISTER CHAIR THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.
DESPICABLE THAT WOULD AFFECT
YOUR.
MY NAME IS AMY GRANT OPEN
REPRESENTING THE OFFERED VEHICLE
LEGISLATIVE COALITION I
APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE WHICH IS
GOING.
COULDN'T.
THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE OF
THE ALAMEDA TESLA EXPANSIONARY I
AM ALSO A SITE STEWARD
ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES TO MURDER
CARNEGIE. HALL RECREATION AREAS
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ALAMEDA
TESLA EXPANSION IN IT DOES HAVE
SOME EXTRAORDINARY AREAS AND
THAT IS WHY IN THE GENERAL PLAN.
A THOUSAND OF THE U. THIRTY ONE
HUNDRED ACRES HAVE ALREADY BEEN
SET ASIDE AS A BUFFER ZONE. AND
FOR CRITICAL HABITAT.
.
EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED
IS ACTUALLY A SUCCESS STORY FOR
DP. CAMEO WHICH IN THE OUR
DIVISION BECAUSE THEY HAVE
MANAGED TO SLAM FOR TWENTY YEARS
ON WHAT THEY HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY
DONE IS IMPROVE HABITAT. THEY'VE
TAKEN AWAY THE MINE TAILINGS
WHICH THE BECAUSE SUPPORTERS OF
THE BILL HAVE NEGLECTED TO.
FOLLOW TALK ABOUT AND HOW THEIR
WATER.
CRITICAL ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE
RESOLVED. ON NOW WITH THE
PASSAGE OF SB TWO FORTY NINE.
WHICH WAS A DIFFICULT
NEGOTIATION BUT WITH THE ABLE
LEADERSHIP OF SENATOR ALLEN.
BONTA WE DIDN'T REACH A POINT
WHERE WE HAVE.
MUCH MORE STRINGENT THERE'S.
I DO MUCH MORE STRINGENT.
.
AND TINA MY COMMAND.
.
BUT THIS REQUIRES DPR TO DO MUCH
MORE STRINGENT ENVIRONMENTAL%
REGULATIONS ON THIS THING A MUCH
MORE STRINGENT THAN ANY OTHER
STATE PARK HOUSE TO DO ALONG
WITH ANY OTHER OCAL ENTITY. OR
ANY COUNTY PARK OR ANY CITY PARK
CONCERT ONLY A PARK MANAGED BY
A.
A LOCAL NONPROFIT.
FOR CONSERVATION REASONS ALONE
THIS AREA SHOULD REMAIN WITH THE
P. R. WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS A
PROGRAMMATIC SEQUEL. NOT A SITE
SPECIFIC SEEK WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT EVENTUALLY WILL END UP WE
KNOW ABOUT THE THOUSAND ACRES
ARE TO BE SET ASIDE FOR CRITICAL
HABITAT. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS
WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO BE THERE
IT'S A PREMATURE BILL BECAUSE IT
MAY VERY WELL BE THAT THIS TURNS
INTO?
MORE OF A NATURE PRESERVE BUT
WILL IT WILL PRESERVE IS ACCESS
FOR EVERYONE. IT WILL PRESERVE
BACKCOUNTRY CAMPING IT WILL
PRESERVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
FAMILY AND CHILDREN IT WILL
PRESERVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR. A
LOT OF VISITORS FROM THE CETRAL
VALLEY BECAUSE IT IS A DIRECT
CONNECTION FROM MODESTO TO
CARNEGIE.
IF WE TAKE THAT LAND OUT OF DPR
CONTROL WE LOSE ALL THAT WE
POTENTIALLY LOSE IT WE WON'T
KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THAT WE WILL GET.
.
WHAT I'M ASKING THE COMMITTEE TO
DO IS GIVE S. B. TWO FORTY NINE
A CHANCE TO WORK?
TAKE THE REGULATIONS AND.
THE OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE AND
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
AREA ALSO LET THE SITE SPECIFIC
SEEK WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT IS
ONLY THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS THAT
WE WILL REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS
BATTLE TURNED INTO. OTHERWISE WE
ARE ESSENTIALLY PRIVATIZING
PUBLIC LAND. AND TAKING AWAY
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE GENERAL
PUBLIC TO VISIT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SIR.
THANKS SO MUCH DAVID PICKET
DISTRICT THIRTY SIX MOTORCYCLES
SPORTS COMMITTEE MISTER CHAIRMAN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MR CRAVEN.
PROBLEM.
OUR ORGANIZATION IS IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL IS
WRITTEN.
AND
SIMILAR TO PRIOR BILLS THAT HAVE
COME BEFORE US CONCERNING ANY
TYPE OF OHB RECREATION.
IS THE USER COMMUNITY AND THE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
AROUND.
SUM IN EXCESS OF SEVENTY FIVE
YEARS.
WERE NOT.
EVEN ASKED TO COME AND SIT AT
THE TABLE TO DISCUSS THIS BEFORE
THIS IS COME TO THIS POINT IN
FRONT OF YOU.
I'M LOOKING AT MR CRAVEN'S
OUR COMMENTS AS A CONSULTANT TO
ASSUME YOU ALL HAVE COPIES OF
THAT WE DO YOU DO.
WELL I'D LIKE TWO ZERO AND ON
PAGE TWO ARGUMENTS TO SUPPORT.
SUPPORTERS OF THIS BILL
FOLLOWING POINTS THEY CONTEND
THAT A PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY
FOR CONSERVATION PURPOSES. WOULD
IMMEDIATELY AND THE LITIGATION
THAT'S OUTSTANDING.
WHAT IS THAT SAY?
DID THIS COMMISSION EVEN GET
COPIES OF THAT LITIGATION FOR
REVIEW PRIOR TO COMING TO ANY OF
THESE MEETINGS.
I DON'T THINK SO. IT'S A CLOSED
ATTORNEY GENERAL LOSE THAT. THE
LITIGATION ITS PLACES CLOSE TO
THE PUBLIC
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S REPRESENT
ME DPR IN THE YOU KNOW HP
DIVISION. BUT NOBODY KNOWS
WHAT'S INSIDE OF THAT.
BUT IS HIGHLY STATED WITH IN
THIS IS A BIG POSITION STATEMENT
FOR YOU FOLKS TO MAKE SOME
DECISIONS ON HERE.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ON BULLET
POINT TO THEIR ON THE SAME PAGE.
ABOUT CEREMONIAL IMPORTANCE.
I'VE BEEN WRITING AT CARNEGIE
SINCE.
THE MID SIXTIES I'VE NEVER SEEN
ONE SINGLE CEREMONY THEY STICK
IN PLACE OUT THERE OTHER THAN
LEGAL AND RESPONSIBLE LOW HP
RECREATION I'VE CONCERNS WITHOUT
BEING USED. AS A BULLET POINT.
INCLUDING WERE THIRTY SCIENTISTS
HAVE COME OUT AND SAID THERES.
ENDANGERED AND THREATENED
SPECIES.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR
BIOLOGICAL SCIENTISTS OUT THERE
ARE DPR AND OVERREACH AND THE
ARE THESE ARE TRAINED
PROFESSIONALS THEY'RE NOT HAVING
THE ISSUES THAT WERE BEING
CLAIMED IN SOME OF THESE
DOCUMENTS.
AND GETTING BACK TO THE OVERALL
PICTURE HERE ON THIS.
STATE.
AS FAR AS WERE CONCERNED
REPRESENTS US THE OHP USER CAN.
EIGHT FOR THIS OUT OF OUR TRUST
FUND MONIES.
WAY BACK WHEN DEPUTY DIRECTOR
CLIFF GLIDDEN BOUGHT THESE TWO
PIECES FROM A WILLING SELLER
WITH NO OPPOSITION WHATSOEVER
FROM MEMBERS THE PUBLIC.
IN REGARDS TO TAKING THIS PIECE
OF PROPERTY SELLING IT IS
SURPLUS
TO US IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
BUT IT WAS SOLD AND FUNDS WERE
RETAINED AT CURRENT MARKET VALUE
THERE'S A SITUATION HERE WHERE
SINCE COULD BE SOLD FOR LESS
THAN MARKET VALUE.
WELL KIND OF MY.
WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURES THAT?
AND TAKE THAT MONEY AND USE TO
BUY LAND SOMEWHERE ELSE IN IN
THE BAY AREA.
WHERE IN THE BAY AREA THERE'S
NOTHING HERE THERE'S NO THING
THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY SHOWN AS
A POTENTIAL REPLACEMENT?
WOULD VOTED BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD
WITH THESE BAY REGIONAL PARKS.
THAT WAS A PLACE THERE CALLED
REDWOOD HILLS IT WAS AN OFF
WHITE WE VEHICLE AREA INSIDE OF
EAST BAY REGIONAL PARKS
INCLUDING ALAMEDA COUNTY AT THAT
TIME.
WHERE IT WAS SOLD CLOSED AND
PROMISED?
TO BE REPLACED
IT WAS NEVER REPLACED.
THE FRUSTRATING PART IS THEY
TOOK TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY FOR
RESTORATION THROUGH A BILL TO
REPAIR.
RESOURCE DAMAGE THAT THEY CLAIM
TO BUT ENDED UP BUILDING.
SPILLWAYS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
PROMISING TO REPLACE THAT
PROPERTY THAT PROMISE WAS
BROKEN.
THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN
ALAMEDA COUNTY WHERE THIS COULD
HAVE LEGAL RECREATION
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC
THAT'S BEEN WAITING TWENTY YEARS
FOR THIS TO BE AVAILABLE.
THIS ISN'T GENERAL FUND MONEY
THIS IS TRUST FUND MONEY THAT
THEY PAID FOR ALL THESE YEARS
MANY FAMILIES CHILDREN HAVE
NEVER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANOTHER
TWENTY YEAR LOSS OF PROPERTY.
ACQUISITION TO BE USED FOR ITS
INTENDED PURPOSE. THIS BILL GOES
ARE HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST THE
INTENT OF THE OHP PROGRAM IS
ESTABLISHED WAY WAY BACK IN
SEVENTY ONE IN THE BEGINNING.
AND THEN WHEN THE COMMISSION
PROCESS STARTED IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY TWO.
THIS BILL IS NOT READY FOR
PRIMETIME.
AND IF YOU REVIEW.
S. P. TO FORTY NINE.
MR ALLEN'S BILL.
WE WORKED REALLY REALLY HARD TO
FIND SOMETHING THAT ALL PARTIES
CAN AGREE ON IN A COLLABORATIVE
MANNER TO CONTINUE THIS GREAT
FORM OF RECREATION HAS BEEN THE
STATE GOING BACK FOR.
A SHADOW DUNES BACK TO THE TURN
OF THE LAST CENTURY.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY FOR US
TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT ON THIS
IT IS UNFAIR. TO TAKE A STATE
PARK.
AND ALLOW LOCAL FOLKS.
TO SHUT DOWN A STATE PARK.
WITH NO EXISTING OPPORTUNITY BY
TO REPLACE IT.
AND DENY THE MILLIONS OF OFF
ROAD VEHICLE RECREATION IS
BECAUSE OF LOCAL CONTROL.
EAST BAY REGIONAL PARKS
HAS PLENTY OF OPEN SPACE AND A
TON OF PARKS AND ZERO HP
OPPORTUNITY.
OKAY SO YOU EITHER GO TO CAL
MOUNTAIN.
ALL THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOLDEN
GATE BRIDGE YOU GO TO HOLLISTER
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT HOLLISTER
EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING O
WEEKEND THEIR CAPACITY WHERE DO
THESE PEOPLE GO. THIS BILL WILL
HELP CREATE ILLEGAL OP WRITING
AND PLACES BECAUSE THERE'S NO
PLACE ELSE TO GO.
THANK YOU SIR
YOU'RE WELCOME TO MUCH.
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION THINK.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M MY NAME IS
NICHOLAS HARRIS ON THE WESTERN
STATES REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE
AMERICAN MOTORCYCLIST
ASSOCIATION WE OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU AND USER.
STEVE EGBERT FROM THE UNITED
FOUR WHEEL DRIVE ASSOCIATIONS WE
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU.
JEFF LET CALIFORNIA FOR REAL
DRIVE ASSOCIATION WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL.
THANK YOU.
DIOMEDE. CALIFORNIA OFF ROAD
VEHICLE ASSOCIATION VISITOR AT
CARNEGIE OFF ROADER MOTHER AND
GRANDMOTHER I OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR.
DON VERGE MEMBER OF SOCAL MC
DISTRICT THIRTY SEVEN I AM A IN
A MAY MEMBERS. HAVE BEEN OFF
ROAD ENTHUSIASTS WERE FOR
FIFTEEN YEARS AND I DISAPPROVE
OF THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
TONY PELLEGRINO I'M A MEMBER OF
CORE BUT AND MAY OR BY. A BALL
OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS I'M ALSO
AN OFF ROADER AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL EXACT.
MY NAME IS SHERRY CAN BE I AM A
MEMBER OF THE AMA DISTRICT
THIRTY SEVEN I AM ALSO AN
OFFERING ORDER. MY ENTIRE FAMILY
HAS GROWN UP DOING OFF ROADING
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
IF YOU.
WHO IS THIS GUY?
YOU MAKE SURE TO VOTE MAN.
I HOPE SO O. NOTES SO I COULD
TALK TO MY NAME IS DALE KIMMY I
AM WITH THE AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE
ASSOCIATION I'VE BEEN RIDING
DIRT BIKES MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL IS VERY LONG.
NNOVA LIFE.
HE LET BUT HE'S A GREAT BIKER TO
THAT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW YEAH
WHEN MY NAME IS JIM WOODS.
I'M A MEMBER OF CORE OF A PAST
PRESIDENT. AS WELL AS DISTRICT
THIRTY SEVEN DUAL SPORT. HAVE
WRITTEN OFF FOR ALL MY LIFE IS
RAISE MY CHILDREN IN THE OFF
ROAD.
IT'S MUCH BETTER THING TO HAVE
YOUR KIDS.
PLAYING IN THE DIRT AND PLAYING
ON THEIR PHONE.
WHEN THEY HAVE A VEHICLE TO PLAY
WITH HE TEACHES RESPONSIBILITY.
HOW TO KEEP IT RUNNING? WHAT TO
DO WITH SOMEONE GETS HURT? PAST
WE DO. WERE ASKING FOR A PARK
THAT WE'VE PAID FOR WITH OUR
RESPONSIBLE MONEY JUST TO REMAIN
AND TO KEEP THE GROWTH. HAS
HAPPENED AND WE NEED. HAS STATED
BEFORE PARKS FILL UP THERE'S A
NEED FOR THIS.
I THINK ALL WE'D RATHER HAVE YOU
KIDS PLAYING IN THE DIRT. AND
PLAYING ON THE PHONE ALL
AFTERNOON I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU.
YES SIR.
MY NAME'S ED STOVE AND I'M THE
PRESIDENT OF THE SAN DIEGO
OFFERED COALITION I'M VICE
PRESIDENT OF FRIENDS OF AKIHIRO
WELLS.
I'M A DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
OFF ROAD VEHICLE ASSOCIATION I'M
VICE CHAIR OF THE IMPERIAL SAND
DUNES ADVISORY COUNCIL.
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANKS A.
BY CHARLES FOX DISTRICT THIRTY
SEVEN AMERICAN MOTORCYCLIST
ASSOCIATION I OPPOSE.
THANK YOU SIR.
BOB NIELSEN HER DISTRICT THIRTY
SEVEN AIR MADE RACES ON THE
SENATE I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU.
BUT JOSEPH KOCH AMERICAN MOTORS
MOTORCYCLISTS ASSOCIATION
DISTRICT THIRTY SEVEN HAPPENED
SPILL THANK YOU SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM SENATORS.
OFFICER BOB SHOW MORTGAGE
INTEREST APOLOGIZE I'M JERRY
FOUTS IN THE PRESIDENT DISTRICT
THIRTY SIX SAW AN AMERICAN
MOTORCYCLIST ASSOCIATION. BENITO
CARD HE'S FAST BECOMING THE
POSTER CHILD FOR SUSTAINABLE OFF
HIGHWAY VEHICLE RECREATION. UP
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO
SHOWING YOU WHAT WE CAN DO WITH
OUR PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE
THINKING THEY WERE SHOCKED.
SURE.
KEITH HAVE PRESIDENT AMERICAN
DOES THAT AMERICA MARCECA
ASSOCIATION DISTRICT THIRTY
SEVEN AND I POSE.
BALLOT PRESIDENT'S TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANYBODY ELSE
OPPOSITION SENATOR STONE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND US.
SENATOR.
IT I WAS RAISED AND.
IN ORANGE COUNTY. WHEN WE HAD A
BUNCH OF ORANGE TREES
BEFORE RIGHT ABOUT SAME TIME
DISNEYLAND CLIP CAME INTO A FACT
AND. AND WE HAVE SOME OHP PARKS
I CAME FROM A VERY MODEST INCOME
FAMILY REMEMBER MY PARENTS BY ME
WILL BE THAT CALLED A MINI BIKE
FOR
THE BOX.
AND TO GO TO A PLACE CALLED
SETTLE BACK PARK YEAH HILLS IN.
AND.
AND I BECAUSE I AND I WAS I
BECAME A MOTORCYCLE LOVER
FOREVER AND.
BEEN RIDING DIRT BIKES SO ALL
MY LIFE.
AND.
IT IS A. LOT HUNDRED HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE SPENT
EVERY YEAR ON OFF ROAD VEHICLES
AND.
WHAT WE SAW AN ORANGE COUNTY WAS
WE SAW DEVELOPMENTAL PRESSURES
IT BASICALLY PUT AN END TO THOSE
PARKS? AND THEN AS A COUNTY
SUPERVISOR IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY
ONE THING WE DO HAVE A LOT OF
THIS OPEN SPACE.
AND.
WE HAVE AREAS IN IN THE COUNTY
WHERE.
WE ALLOWED FOR OHB ACTIVITY AND
OF COURSE.
.
IT INSTIGATED A LOT OF NIMBY
ACTIVITY. AND.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND
MYSELF CAME TO A CONCLUSION THAT
IF YOU DON'T. ALLOW FOR HAVING
AN APPROPRIATE AREA.
FOR THESE RECREATIONAL AS TO USE
THEIR. THEIR WARES AND ENJOY
THEIR RECREATION AND THEY'RE
GOING TO GO INTO THE MORE
SENSITIVE AREAS. THAT TRULY HAVE
HABITAT IN THE GOING TO DESTROY
IT WE SAW MANY EXAMPLES OF THAT.
CAN RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW. THERE ARE SOME IN THE
STATE THAT WOULD OPINE THAT
EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA HAS SOME
BIOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
BUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS
BOUGHT A LONG TIME AGO.
WITH.
HP FUNDS.
AND WALL.
WE MAY SEE.
OPEN SPACE.
BRITAIN HABITAT AREAS ADJACENT
TO IT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE
SET ASIDES THROUGHOUT THE STATE
NOT JUST IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
BUT NORTHERN CALIFORNIA TO. AND
I WOULD PROBABLY OPINED THAT THE
LAND AND AND ALAMEDA COUNTY
FINDING OF FORTY ACRE FIFTY ACRE
SITE.
FOR A REASONABLE ON MONEY IS
PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO MY CONCERNS IS THAT WE WILL
POTENTIALLY SELL THIS PIECE OF
PROPERTY AND LIMIT AGAIN WHERE
THESE PEOPLE CAN LEGALLY USE
RECREATIONAL VEHICLES BUT OTHER
CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AND THAT'S
RIGHT LIKE GOD SENATOR. TO
RESPOND HIS IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT IF OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA CHOOSES TO
DISPOSE OF THIS AS ACCESS
PROPERTY THAT WE CAN SELL IT FOR
WHATEVER WE WANT.
SO WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS.
LEGISLATURE IS IS VERY
SENSITIVE TO ENVIRONMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS AND.
IT WOULD. BE OUT MOVEMENT WITHIN
THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THAT WE
COULD SELL IT FOR A DOLLAR TO
ENVIRONMENTAL.
AGENCY THAT OR COME OVER IT
ENTITY THAT WANTS TO. RESTORE
THE HABITAT WHICH IS A YEOMAN'S
TASK.
.
BUT THE ONES THAT ARE TO GET
CHEATED ARE THE ONES THAT PAY
DID TO THIS TAX FOR YEARS TO
ACQUIRE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY
SO ONE.
IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK
YOU TO AMEND YOUR BILL IF THIS
IS GONNA BE DISPOSED OF THAT'D
BE SOLD NUMBER ONE IN MARKET
VALUE.
AND NUMBER TWO. THAT THE
PROCEEDS GO INTO THE.
A TREE FUND.
TO BUY MORE LAND IN OR ADJACENT
TO OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA SO
THAT WE CAN.
MITIGATE THE THE LOSS OF
RECREATIONAL.
OPPORTUNITIES.
THROUGH THE CHAIR CERTAINLY.
SO THE WERE WERE FOLLOWING
CURRENT LAW AND TERMS OF THE
DISPOSITION OF LAND.
THAT'S DETERMINED TO BE SURPLUS
SO.
I'M COMFORTABLE FOR YOU KNOW.
BEING CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE
TREAT OTHER.
PUBLIC PROPERTY IN THE STATE.
I KEEP IN MIND THAT.
BOTH THE DEPARTMENT AND THE.
OFFROAD.
VEHICLE COMMISSION.
THAT DATE THEY ARE THEY
RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT PURPOSE
THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDE THIS
RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THEY'RE
NOT. TRYING TO SELL LAND FOR
CHEAP.
I THINK THAT I LOOK AT IT I I
THINK THAT THE.
UNDERSTOOD THAT CIRCUMSTANCE
THAT WE'RE IN NOW THE PIE WOULD
HAVE MADE A BETTER CHOICE A LONG
TIME AGO.
BUT THIS IS BEEN GOING ON FOR A
VERY VERY LONG TIME. AND.
YOU KNOW THAT. I WOULD
UNDERSCORE SOMETHING I SAID AT
THE BEGINNING SENATOR WHICH IS A
THIS IS AN OPTION THIS ISN'T
MANDATE ANYTHING ON ANYONE.
AND THE COMMISSION AND THE
DEPARTMENT CAN CONTINUE ON IN
THEIR PRACTICE OF TRYING TO. GET
AYE EE AYE ARE CERTIFIED COME IN
WITH A SPECIFIC PROJECT PLAN FOR
THE SITE AND GO THROUGH IT ALL
AGAIN PECAN ALSO JUST DIRECT YOU
TO THE LAST OF THE THREE LINES
OF THE MEASURE WHICH IS ANY
REVENUE FOR THE DECISIONS LAND
SHOULD BE DEPOSITED THE FUNDS.
FOR THE PURCHASE BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF LAND FOR OFF ROAD
VEHICLE RECREATION FOOT GOES
THERE THAT MEANS THAT HE WAS ONE
OF TWO POINTS THE ONLY OF THE
JOINT WAS.
COULD WE MAKE A PROVISION.
AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME
LEGAL ISUES AND WHAT THE
DISPOSITION OF LANGUAGES I SEE
POLICIES BUT I BELIEVE IF YOU
TAKE AN AMENDMENT I'M SURE THAT
LEGISLATIVE STAFF CAN.
PUT IT IN THE IN THE LEGAL
LANGUAGE THAT WOULD DIE GIVE US
SOME TEETH TO ENSURE THAT IS
BEING SOLD AT MARKET VALUE.
RIGHT TO LOOK AT IT I'M VERY
CONFIDENT THAT THIS LAND WILL BE
SOLD FOR MORE THAN WAS PURCHASED
BY SENATOR IS PURCHASE FOR OUT
WHO OVER SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS.
AND MY OF MY VIEW IS IN MY
STAFF'S YOU IS IS THAT. IF THE
DEPARTMENT WAS TO CHOOSE TO TO
MAKE IT SURPLUS LAND AND SELL
IT.
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET MUCH
MORE THAN WHAT THEY PAID FOR.
AND IF AND MY BOY HE WAS ALSO
THAT IF YOU AND THEN IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OFFROAD.
A SPACES.
ACQUIRED. THAT THIS BILL HELPS
YOU GET THAT BECAUSE THERE IS
NOTHING EVER GOING TO BE
CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE. FOR OFF
ROAD IN MY MY OPINION UP BECAUSE
OF THE EXTENDED LITIGATION
BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL
ECOLOGICAL VALUES. THAT ARE
CONTAINED WITHIN THESE.
IN THE IN THIS LAND AND SO I'M
TRYING TO BE VERY PRAGMATIC
ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHY THE BILL
IS BEFORE YOU IT'S NOT
ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
EXCEPT. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING
EVER HAPPENING HERE AND NOW YOU
HAVE AN AYE AYE THIS BILL GOES
THROUGH YOU'VE GIVEN AN OPTION.
TO THE OFF ROAD ENTHUSIASTS TO
MAYBE COME TO THE REALIZATION
THAT I'VE COME TO WHICH IS THAT.
WHAT WE ARE MONEY IS IS IS STUCK
IN THIS SPACE AND IT'S NEVER
GOING TO COME OUT LESS WE CAN
FIND SOMETHING BETTER IS?
OFFROAD ACTIVITY ON THE SITE
RIGHT NOW YEAH I BROUGHT A
PICTURE.
SO THIS IS THIS BORDERS IN
EXISTING OFF ROAD VEHICLE PARK
THAT'S RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW IN
PLACE.
IT'S CALLED THE CARNEGIE PARK.
HERE IT IS OKAY THIS IS ADJACENT
LAND NOW THIS ISN'T FAR AWAY
MILES AWAY THIS IS RIGHT NEXT
DOOR. OKAY AND HERE IS A PICTURE
OF WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
OKAY THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
THIS PIECE HERE. BACK.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO GO
FAR AWAY TO GO OFF ROADING IT'S
RIGHT HERE. OKAY.
A MILE FROM THIS THIS PIECE
LACKEY BUT THAT PIECE OF
PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT WITH THE WAY
SHE FUNDS CRACKED IT WAS AN AND
ANY MONEY IF THEY CHOSE TO
SURPLUS IT. THE MONEY TO GO BACK
INTO THE FUND TO FIND A BETTER
MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO ENGAGE
IN THIS ACTIVITY VIEW JUST AMEND
YOUR BILL TO SAY IT WOULD BE A
MARKET VALUE OF THE HAPPY TO
SUPPORT YOUR BILL.
IF I MAY IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS
TGS ALREADY REQUIRES EXCESS
PROPERTY EXCESS LAND TO BE SOLD
AT MARKET VALUE SO I DON'T THINK
WE NEED TO. DO THAT THAT THAT IS
MY UNDERSTANDING OF EXISTING
LOWER SAY YOUR UNDERSTANDING
BILLS THAT THAT IS NOT MY
UNDERSTANDING CENTER BUT I'M
HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT AND IF
THIS BILL MOVES FORWARD. I BE
HAPPY TO GET CLARIFICATION ON
THAT FLYING SENATOR
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I DON'T
THINK WE NEED TO ARGUE OVER
SOMETHING IF IN FACT IT'S
ALREADY. IN PLACE.
THE AND THEN THERE'S NO NEED TO
BUT I I CERTAINLY IF IT ISN'T IN
PLACE THEN.
PERHAPS.
THE EXPLORING THAT IS
APPROPRIATE AS WELL BUT I THINK
IT ALREADY IS TO LOCK CENTER
STONE SURROUND SENATORS TURN
OKAY SO ON PAGE TWO OF THE BILL
STARTING ON PAGE.
OR LINE NINETEEN THE DIRECTOR
OF GENERAL SERVICES MAY TRANSFER
THE LAND TO A LOCAL AGENCY. FOR
LESS THAN FAIR MARKET VALUE OF
THE LOCAL AGENCY AGREES TO USE
THE LAND AS A PARK.
OR FOR ANOTHER OPEN SPACE
PURPOSE.
SO WITH THAT EXCEPTION IT WOULD
BE SOLD IT DOWN SO THAT SO WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING WHAT IS BEING
SUGGESTED IF I UNDERSTAND IT. IS
THAT YOU WANT TO REJECT THE IDEA
OF IT BEING USED FOR PARKER SOME
OTHER OPEN SPACE AT LESS THAN A
MARKET VALUE AND THAT'S A WHOLE
DIFFERENT ISSUE I WOULD THINK
THAT'S HIS BILL.
OKAY.
CENTER STERN.
FAMOUS TRIP TOWN.
QUICK QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION.
FOR THE AUTHOR I I DO
APPRECIATE THE BILL AND I'M BOTH
THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY AND
AN OFF ROAD VEHICLE DISEASE CAN
YOU MAY CALL THAT A
CONTRADICTION BUT I THINK
THERE'S A WAY TO BE BOTH.
.
I DON'T READ ANYTHING IN THIS
BILL.
PROHIBITING.
.
AND OTHER ENTITIES FOR FINDING
ADDITIONAL SPACE IN IN THE IN
THIS SORT OF IMMEDIATE AREA TO
TO CONDUCT THOSE ACTIVE YOU
THERE'S NO EXPRESS. REQUIREMENT
OR PROHIBITION ON THAT I IN IN
TERMS OF.
FINDING SPACES FOR YOU KNOW THE
TO ENJOY THIS RECREATIONAL
ACTIVITY DO YOU SEE UP ARE IN
THIS BILL.
FOR THAT NOW THERE'S NOTHING IN
THIS LEGISLATION THAT IT TENDS
TO LIMIT THE ABILITY OF THE
COMMISSION OF THE DEPARTMENT.
TO CONTINUE TO FIND APPROPRIATE
PLACES FOR OFF ROAD VEHICLE
ACTIVITY ANYWHERE IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA INCLUDING IN THIS
AREA.
GREAT.
WAS IF SENATOR ALLEN LOOK CIRCLE
BACK SYSTEM YEAH I ON.
LOOK I I THINK THAT.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFICULT
NEGOTIATION LAST YEAR THIS IS IN
OUR NEGOTIATION WITH THE
STATEWIDE YOU. DON'T THINK. THAT
NEGOTIATION BROUGHT YOU INTO
THIS ISSUE OF THE CARNEGIE AND I
KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT. AND I I DO
I I WILL SAY THAT I I KNOW
CENTER GLAZER AND I THINK HE'S A
THOUGHTFUL SENSITIVE GUY WHO ON
IS NOT AN IDEOLOGUE ON THESE
ISSUES IN OUR. CRISIS OCCURRED
YOU DID TO CARRY ON THIS
CONVERSATION.
.
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT WITH THE MIND
TOWARD TIME YOU KNOW.
HOLDING SACROSANCT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS YOU HAVE
ALSO DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO
COMEDY.
THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED
TODAY AND AND I I THINK YOU KNOW
BUT I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BUILD
HOW THE CONVERSATION IN THE AND
HOPEFULLY WE'LL WORK OUT A DEAL.
I THINK THEY PLEDGE DON'T YA
THINK YOU MISTER CHAIR AGAIN
GOING BACK TO THE LINE TWENTY
ONE AGREES TO USE THE LAND AS A
PARK.
FOR FOR ANOTHER OPEN SPACE
PURPOSE SO IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY
WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE MULTI
SPECIES HABITAT PLAN.
WE WERE THE FIRST COUNTY I
THINK OF THE ENTIRE UNITED
STATES THAT DID IT.
SO THAT WE COULD MITIGATE ART
CONSTRUCTION ARE OR
TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS WITH
ENVIRONMENT DOCUMENTS ALREADY
DONE WITH CALIFORNIA FISH AND
WILDLIFE AND GAME AND. AND THE
U. S. AND SO WE WE EXPEDITED
INFRASTRUCTURE.
BOB BUT OUR REQUIREMENTS WITH A
THE RIVERSIDE CONSERVATION
AGENCY A PUBLIC AGENCY HAS TO
ACQUIRE A HUNDRED AND FIFTY
THREE THOUSAND. ACRES OF LAND.
AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON THAT WE
WOULD GO BY LAND.
SO THAT WE COULD HAVE IT AS AN
INTERPRETIVE AREA FOR PEOPLE TO
GO OUT AND SEE.
ENDANGERED HABITAT. AND TO
APPRECIATE INDEED YOUR HABITAT.
SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS GETS
SOLD TO A HABITAT AGENCIES LIKE
RIVERSIDE COUNTIES.
FOR LESS THAN MARKET VALUE WITH
THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF JUST
PRESERVING.
A SPECIES THAT ARE ON THAT PIECE
OF PROPERTY. AND NEGATING THE
PURPOSE OF WHY THOSE FUNDS THAT
WHICH WE FUNDS WERE USED TO.
TODAY. BUT HAPPEN ALAS THE TEST
OF TIME. THEN GOT IT MAKE IT ANY
MORE LAND ANYMORE.
AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE IN TWO
U. ZERO A TREE VEHICLES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND THIS IS MAKING
THAT OPPORTUNITY EVEN SMALLER.
SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS WITH
THE BILL'S READ AND THINK ON A
CLOSE SENATOR. GLAZER YEAH I
THINK IT'S THE COMMITTEE HAS
HEARD THERE'S A LOT OF STRONG
FEELINGS BY ALL SIDES AND AND
THAT'S THE BEEN THE CHALLENGE
FOR ME AND AND OF MY COLLEAGUES
SAY. THAT REPRESENT THE AREA WE
TRIED TO FIND A WAY TO BALANCE
THIS OUT.
MY READ IS IS THAT.
IT'S MIRED IN QUICKSAND IS
NEVER GOING TO COME OUT AND ALL
THAT MONEY THAT'S BEEN USED TO
PURCHASE THIS LAND IS NOT GOING
TO BE USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
OFFROAD RIDERS.
AND THAT DAY AT THE DEPARTMENT
OF THE COMMISSION DESERVE TO
HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE IF THEY SO
CHOOSE TO SAY. THIS IS NOT GONNA
WORK WE'VE SPENT TWENTY YEARS
TRYING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. ON
IT'S NOT GONNA WORK IF WE CAN
SELL IT IT'S ALL GONNA BE WHERE
WE GET THAT ALL THAT MONEY BACK
PLUS. AND USE IT IN ASIA AND
THERE'S TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS
IN THE BANK NOW IN THE ACCOUNT.
READY SET YOU CAN ADD THIS TO IT
I WAS JUST UP FOR FULL
DISCLOSURE. OF AN OLD.
DOOM BUGGY GUY MOTORCYCLE GUY I
TIME SO I EIDSVOLL THE I WAS
THERE BEFORE THE ANY OF THE
REGULATION AND SEVENTEEN SEVENTY
ONE.
AND PROBABLY CAUSE LIVER DAMAGE
FOR WHICH I'M PAYING THE PRICE
SINCE I'M SUPPORTING THIS BILL
SO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THIS
THING. LET'S ROLL.
PROMOTION SENATOR ALLEN SO MOVE
SECRETARY KALRA.
DEPENDS TO GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION SENATORS HERTZBERG
BUY HERTZBERG AYE STONE.
STONE NO ALLEN.
ALLEN I QUIT SO. JACKSON.
JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE. MONEY.
MONEY AND AYE STERN AYE STERN
AYE BUYBACK BUY THAT NO.
IT'S FIVE TO TWO FIVE TO HOLD
WILL OPEN THANK YOU MUCH.
SENATOR.
LET'S GO TO FILE AN AND NUMBER
TWO S. B. EIGHT THIRTY FOUR
BECAUSE SENATOR JACKSON AS TOO
QUICK. MEASURES.
THANK YOU.
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO S. B. EIGHT
THIRTY FOUR.
SHE'S A EXPERT
TO ME THAT.
STATEMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
FROM HER COMMITTEE IN JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE BUDDY COME ON THAT BUT
WE ARE ALL.
PLEASE.
GOOD OUR MADE THIRTY FOUR THAT
AFTERNOON ALMOST GOOD EVENING
MISS SHARE MEMBERS.
SHOULD S. B. EIGHT THIRTY FOR A
BILL THAT WILL PROHIBIT STATE
LAND THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION
FROM ISSUING ANY NEW.
OR RENEW ANY EXISTING OR MODIFY.
LEASES AND OTHER CONVEYANCE FOR
THIS TO SUPPORT NEW OIL
EXPLORATION AND PRODUCTION AND
IN GENERAL TAKE YOUR AMENDMENTS
TO SERRANO WATERS OFF OUR COAST
BEFORE I PROCEED I'D LIKE TO
FIRST ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS OKAY
THANK. AS DETAILED IN THE MOCK
UP. THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK
THAT'S BEEN DONE BY THE
COMMITTEE. SO BEEN A.
COLLABORATION OF ALL THE* OF
STAKEHOLDERS AND MY TRYING TO
AUTHOR SENATOR LARA. THE LANCE
STATE LANDS COMMISSION.
THESE AMENDMENTS TO ENSURE THAT
THE BILL IS CLEAR THAT THE BAN
APPLIES TO NEW LEASING ACTIVITY
AND THAT WE ARE EQUALLY CLEAR.
THAT WE DO NOT INTEND TO DISTURB
EXISTING RIGHTS OR THE ABILITY
OF INDUSTRY TO MAKE THE REPAIRS
THEY ME THEY MAY NEED TO MAKE.
FOR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THIS
MEASURE.
IT IS SITS ON A WAVE OF
OPPOSITION BOTH GLOBALLY. AND IN
OUR OWN NATION TO OFFSHORE OIL
DRILLING INFECTIOUS LAST WEEK
THE NATION OF NEW ZEALAND THE
COUNTRY THAT ACTUALLY GETS
APPRECIABLE REVENUES FOR ITS
DOMESTIC OIL RESERVES.
MADE THE BRAVE AND MORAL
DECISION TO BAN FUTURE OFFSHORE
DRILLING OFF ITS COAST.
BECAUSE OF ITS NUMEROUS
CHALLENGES AND PROBLEMS BOTH
ASSOCIATED WITH THE.
OCEAN WATERS AND MARIE AND
MARINE LIFE BUT ALSO THE SHOES
OF FOSSIL FUELS AND GLOBAL
CLIMATE CHANGE. NORTHERN
EUROPEAN NATIONS ARE CONSIDERING
THE SAME. LOOKING TOWARD A
CLEANER CARBON FREE FUTURE WHICH
HEARING CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN A
COMMITMENT OF OUR STATE. THIS%
BILL.
IS A MEASURE THAT IS SEEN GREAT.
APART DESIGNED TO RESPOND TO
THE RECKLESS EFFORTS BY THE
EXISTING ADMINISTRATION IN
WASHINGTON TO. OPEN UP OUR
FEDERAL WATERS YET AGAIN TO
OFFSHORE DRILLING. AT A TIME
WHEN WE ARE SEEING THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVE
ENERGY GROW WHETHER IT'S SOLAR
WIND.
BIOMASS OTHERS THE WAYS THAT WE
CAN PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE WITHOUT
HAVING TO OR WANTING TO EXPAND
THIS.
DIRTY FORM OF ENERGY AND.
THIS MEASURE OF BASICALLY WILL.
WRECK BUT RECOGNIZES THAT WE
ARE NOT ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT
GOES ON IN FEDERAL WATERS
UNFORTUNATELY BUT IT WILL.
ALLOW US WITHIN OUR OWN STATE
WATERS TO RESTRICT ANY EFFORTS
TO ACCOMMODATE NEW AND EXPANDED
DRILLING IN FEDERAL WATERS BY
PROHIBITING. A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT MECHANISMS THAT WOULD
ACCOMMODATE THAT DRILLING SO.
I MENTION THAT IN THE NATION
ITSELF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY
HAS A SIMILAR BILL. BEFORE THEIR
GOVERNORS.
CONSIDERATION FLORIDA HAS
SECURED AN EXEMPTION DIRECTLY
FROM MR TRUMP.
AND.
.
SOUTH CAROLINA FROM SOUTH
CAROLINA TO THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON REPUBLICAN AND
DEMOCRATIC.
LEGISLATURES ARE SAYING NO TO
OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING WE ARE A
LEADER IN THE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
FIELD BUT SOMEONE WHO'S
REPRESENTED IN AN AREA THAT FOR
DECADES HAS BEEN VICTIMIZED BY.
OIL.
WE ARE HERE TO SAY THE TIME IS
UP FOR THIS KIND OF DIRTY.
CLIMATE CHANGING YEAH ACTIVITY
WE CAN DO BETTER WE ARE DOING
BETTER. AND WITH THAT I WOULD
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE I HAVE
WITH ME TODAY TO WITNESSES WHO
CAN. I SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE
OF PRESERVING OUR COASTLINE AND
OUR MARINE ENVIRONMENT NOAH
OPPENHEIM. REPRESENTING THE
PACIFIC COAST FEDERATION OF
FISHERMEN'S ASSOCIATIONS.
AND. I SEE WE HAVE.
FOR THIS YEAR CLUB HERE.
AS WELL TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
THE ENVIRONMENT MAN WHICH IS
USED TO KEEP YOU GUYS APPEAR YOU
CAN STAY AT HOME CALL THESE
BILLS PRETTY GOOD. OF IT RATHER
BE NOWHERE ELSE MISTER CHAIRMAN
BUT. THANK YOU MEMBERS FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY NO OPPENHEIM
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
PACIFIC COST FEDERATION OF
FISHERMEN'S ASSOCIATIONS IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND
IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATIONS
RETROGRESSIVE VISION OF OPTION
NEW OFFSHORE. OIL AND GAS
DEVELOPMENT OFFICER COAST IT IS.
WHOLLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR
OCEAN ECONOMY WORTH MULTIPLE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AS WELL AS
IN PARTICULAR FOR THE INTERESTS
OF OUR MEMBERS THE MULTI HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLAR COMMERCIAL
FISHERIES OF OUR STATE. A WE WE
LEARNED FIRST HAND WHAT OIL
SPILLS DUE. TO OUR FISHING
ECONOMIES R. COSTA COMMUNITIES
REPEATEDLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN
WHEN THE SPELLS HAPPEN THAT SHUT
DOWN FISHERIES. AND REMEDIATION.
IS SLOW IT'S INCOMPLETE AND IT
NEVER MAKES THESE COMMUNITIES
HOLE AGAIN WE SAW IN NINETEEN
IT'S THE NINE. OFF THE COAST OF
SANTA BARBARA.
AND WE SAW IT HAD MACONDO IN THE
GULF OF MEXICO.
LAST DECADE.
WE WILL NOT SEE IT HERE BECAUSE
THIS BILL WILL SHUT IT DOWN THE
AIMS OF THIS BILL HARD TO
PREVENT. OFFSHORE OIL DEPEND
LEASING IN FEDERAL WATERS TO
THE.
THE INABILITY TO LAND
THAT OIL OR CONVEY IT ON OUR
SHORES.
BUT IT WOULD ALSO DIS
INCENTIVIZE THE HARMFUL OIL
EXPLORATION.
THE SEISMIC ARROGANT TESTING
THAT. IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO
DETERMINE WHERE THE.
SUBSURFACE. DEPOSITS OF OIL AND
GAS ARE LOCATED THESE AIR GUNS
ARE TOWED BEHIND BOATS FOR DAYS
AT A TIME THEY MET AND SONIC.
IMPULSES THAT ARE AS LOUD AS A
SPACE SHUTTLE TAKING OFF.
HUNDRED SIXTY DECIBELS
IMPORTERS OF COURSE THEY HARM
MARINE MAMMAL.
SENSORY ORGANS BUT WE NOW KNOW
THAT THEY IN FACT IMPACT
FISH POPULATIONS THEY CAN
DISRUPT SPAWNING AGGREGATIONS I
CAN ACTUALLY KILL PLANKTON
WITHIN MULTIPLE KILOMETERS.
THEY KILL THE OCEAN. AND THE
LEVEL FISHING MARINE CREATURES
IN THEM CHEST THROUGH
EXPLORATION ALONE.
AN OIL SPILL HERE IS A RISK WE
CANNOT TAKE OUR COMMERCIAL
FISHERIES ARE HURTING THIS WOULD
DEVASTATE CLOSELY ECONOMIES I
URGE HER SUPPORT FOR THIS
IMPORTANT BILL THANK SIR.
THANK YOU.
SHE GOT IT.
CATHERINE PHILLIPS SIERRA CLUB
CALIFORNIA OF THIS BILL IS
CONSISTENT WITH A RESOLUTION
THAT THIS OF HOUSE PASSED
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
OPPOSING OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING
OR EXPANSION OF OFFSHORE OIL
DRILLING INTO FEDERAL WATERS.
IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
THE LEGISLATURE HAS ACTED UPON
IN THE PAST AND IT'S CONSISTENT
WITH WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.
PAYER JURAI VOTE. THEY
RESEARCHED.
ANY OTHER IN SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE.
MISTER CHAIR MARK FENCE RECORD
HAVE BEEN ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE
FUND AND THE NATURE CONSERVANCY
IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND FOR
BEING ON BEHALF OF DEFENDERS OF
WILDLIFE IN SUPPORT THEY'VE
ASSURING.
THE CHAIRMAN TE TOAST MALONE
FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL FOR HEAL THE
BAY.
AND FOR THE ACTING SEIZE
COALITION.
HAD SOMEONE ON BEHALF OF THE
OCEAN SERVANTS IN SUPPORT.
BLISS ABLE WITH SHUTTER AND TO
ON BEHALF OF THE CINEMA COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
EDMONTON AND WITH CALIFORNIA
VOICES FOR PROGRESS WERE
COMMUNITY OF OVER ONE HUNDRED
BUSINESS OWNERS ENTREPRENEURS
INVESTOR AND PHILANTHROPIST WERE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ADDING TO HER WITH A BY MY
CALIFORNIA ALSO SUPPORT
THINKING.
BRIAN A WIKI CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU AGAIN MISTER NOBODY
AYE JUDY MANN CRUSOE'S SOCIAL
COMPASSION IN LEGISLATION
STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION FOR
ANIMAL ADVOCACY WERE STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
HOLY MAIENSCHEIN BEHALF OF A
BOTH THE CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD
IN THE CITY OF GOLD LEADER IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ATTY FLANKER FROM LOS ANGELES I
HEARD YOUR SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION.
PREMATURE HAIR.
PHILLIPS.
PICTURE.
WHO'S GOING FIRST. AGO FOR SIR.
GOOD EVENING GUY GO FOR.
THROUGH CENTERS WITH THE WESTERN
SEA PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION WE
ARE OPPOSED TO S. B. EIGHT THREE
FOUR. HOW WE BELIEVE IT WILL
TAKE AWAY CALIFORNIA'S ABILITY
TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN?
ENERGY RESOURCES WE DO HAVE
CONCERNS WITH THE BILL TAKING
AWAY THE EXISTING AUTHORITY.
FROM THE CALIFORNIA STATE LANDS
COMMISSION.
TO PRESIDE OVER THESE MATTERS.
IN ADDITION.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT.
AS THE BILL IS CURRENTLY
AMENDED.
WILL ALSO.
.
MMHM POTENTIALLY AND EXISTING
PRODUCTION AND.
ALTHOUGH WE WE DID JUST HERE
THAT THE AUTHOR WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS DRAFTED
BY COMMITTEE STAFF.
ON THAT SIR WE WILL BE HAVING
OUR MEMBERS TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE
AMENDMENTS.
BUT IN IN SUMMARY FOR US REAL
QUICK HOW WE BELIEVE THAT
THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT ITS
FUNCTION PROPERLY WITHIN THE
COMMISSION. THAT PROVIDES THEM
THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE
DISCRETION NEEDED FOR CURRENT
AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. OF
DOMESTIC ENERGY SUPPLIES ARE IN
THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STATE.
SO FOR THESE REASONS WE DO
OPPOSE INNER JR NO VOTE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF THE P. ANTHONY THOMAS
SERVERS IN THE CALIFORNIA
INDEPENDENT PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA. NATURAL GAS
PRODUCERS ASSOCIATION ON THE
THANK. MY COUNTERPART FROM
WESTERN STATES WHERE IS OUTLINED
IN HIS DESCRIPTION. I WILL TRY
NOT TO BE REPETITIVE. ALSO WANT
TO THANK THE NATURIST ARSES
COMMITTEE IN GENERAL AND DOCTOR
MORE AND SPECIFICALLY. UP FOR
HER WORK ON THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENT.
AGAIN IN ITS PRESENT FORM.
SIP AND SEE IN GPA.
STANDS OPPOSED TO THE BILL.
HOWEVER.
AFTER TAKING A FIRST LOOK AT
THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS.
WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE
CURRENT PATH.
HOWEVER AND WE HAVE TO TAKE A
DEEPER DIVE MY MEMBERS HAVE TO
TAKE A MORE IN DEPTH LOOK AT IT
TO PROVIDE ANY CREDIBLE
RESPONSE.
TO THE IMMENSE THEMSELVES.
WE DIVERSITY DENOUNCES ON
FRIDAY SO WE CAN MISTER CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS MY MEMBERS ARE
TAKING A LOOK AT.
AT THE MEMBERS CURRENTLY
POLITELY CLEARED OUR CONCERNS.
.
IS TO PRESERVE CURRENT
INFRASTRUCTURE
OUR CONCERN TO TO PRESERVE
CURRENT PRODUCTION.
THE GOVERNOR'S LONG SERVED AS
THE NATION'S FOREMOST LEADER ON
CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS.
ENSURING THAT THE STATE REDUCES
ITS CARBON FOOTPRINT AND FOR
IMMEDIATE BANS ON
PRODUCTION.
THE GOVERNOR STATED CAN ON
RECORD AND SAY INDICATING THAT.
THAT IT IS IMPRACTICAL TO PUT
AN IMMEDIATE HALT TO OR
PRODUCTION
THIS IS GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN. IS
ALSO CALLED FOR TRANSITION AWAY
FROM FOSSIL FUELS WHICH.
IT IS STATEMENT IT IS WHAT IT IS
BUT HE ALSO IN ON THE SAY THAT.
AT A RATE THAT REFLECTS THE
STATE CURRENT DEPENDENCE.
ON OIL.
IF BAY PRETTY FOR SUCCESSFUL IN
ITS CURRENT FORM.
DEMAND WILL STILL BE HERE WE
WILL STILL DEMAND A HALF A
MILLION BARRELS OF OIL. PER DAY.
PER DAY.
HOWEVER TRANSPORTING THE FUELS
FROM BARGES AND TANKERS SPEWING
EMISSIONS.
THAT THE SUPPORTERS.
THAT HAVE COME HERE AND SUPPORT
THE BILL.
THEY ARE TEMPTED TO LIMIT IT
VIA OTHER SOURCES.
THE THIRTY TWO.
CAP AND TRADE AND OTHERS
BUT BELIEVE ME IF IT'S
PASSED IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
IT WILL ALLOW OSTENSIBLY IMPACT
CURRENT PRODUCTION.
WE'RE SPECIFIC OPPOSITION TO
THAT.
REALLY AT ANY TIME DO THE
PROPONENT TO COME UP IN SUPPORT
BILLS SUCH AS A THIRTY FOUR IN
ITS CURRENT FORM IN ITS CURRENT
FORM.
HAVE KNOWLEDGE OR IMPACTS TO
THE HUMAN CAPITAL I'M REFERRING
TO THE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND
PEOPLE EXCUSE ME THREE HUNDRED
THOUSAND CALIFORNIANS.
WHO WORK IN OUR STATE?
AS I CLOSE HAN MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS.
IT IS A BIT TROUBLING AND
SOMEWHAT DISTURBING THAT
SUPPORTERS OF SUCH PROPOSALS.
TAKE THE POSITION OF MORE
SUPERIORTY.
WHEN IT COMES TO ANY POLICY
RELATING O ALL THE NATURAL GAS
AND OUR STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THE IRRATIONALITY IN AND ANGER.
RESULTING FROM ALL PRODUCTION
IS UNNECESSARY AND UNCALLED FOR.
FOSSIL FUELS AND RENEWABLES CAN
EXISTS CAN COEXIST AND OUR
STATE.
WITH THAT JUST BECAUSE IT
DOESN'T CONFORM TO A PROPONENTS
RIGID VIEW BUT THAT
DISAGREEMENT.
HAN.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WORLD DOES
NOT EXIST.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DEBATES ABOUT
THIS ISSUE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY
COMPASSIONATE DEBATE IN
CALIFORNIA.
BUT CHEMICAL EXIST THE ANSWER IS
YES.
DO WE IN FACT OPPOSE A THIRTY
FOR HIS CURRENT FORM WE DO AND
WOULD ASK FOR A NO VOTE ON.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
THERE'S ALL THE OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS.
THINK ME. CENTER AROUND. I JUST
I AYE IT OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THE
BILL I'M VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE I
ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I
THINK THERE SOME THOUGHTFUL
AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY THE.
COMMITTEE TO MAKE IT MORE
WORKABLE AND I I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE HAN. THE COMMITTEE'S
WORK AND I'M IN AND YOUR YOUR
AGREEMENT TO ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENT
SENATOR AND. I WITH THAT I'D
LIKE TO MOVE THE BILL IN A
PROPER
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SITTING
FURTHER SINISTER.
JUST A FACTUAL POINT OF
CLARIFICATION AS OPENING IT.
.
FROM THE OPPOSITION YOU'RE
SAYING THAT YOU ANTICIPATE THIS
ACTUALLY.
REDUCING IN STATE OIL PRODUCTION
EVEN IF NO ONE WERE TO TAKE UP
TO LEASES SAY THAT THE ANNOUNCES
REYES IS SORT OF A. QUESTION OF
ARE THESE EVEN VALUABLE LEASES
TO BEGIN WITH GIVEN THAT.
THESE ARE.
TRICKY TRICKY TO RECOVER SAY
THAN.
OFTEN TAXES SIR WHAT THEIR TALK
ABOUT ON THE EAST COASTER ALASKA
BUT.
HIS WALK WALK US THROUGH WHY IN
STATE PRODUCTION.
IT.
CONCERT A RIPPLE EFFECT IT WHAT
WHAT WHAT IS THE THE NEXUS ON
THE IN STATE PRODUCTIONS. WELL
THIS THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
SENATOR THE IN STATE PRODUCTION
MEMBERS.
AT I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE
EVEN MEN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
WHO SAID THAT. ENERGY. ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE. IT IS IMPORTANT.
IN MY VIEW MEMBERS I WOULD
RATHER PRODUCE
CRUDE AND. OIL CRUDE OIL AND
NATURAL GAS IN THIS STATE BUT WE
ARE THE MOST HEAVILY REGULATED
ARGUABLY IN THE COUNTRY. AND
POSSIBLY THE WORLD. I WOULD SAY
THAT THAT THE STRINGENT
REGULATION THAT WE ARE UNDER.
MAKE IT MAKE IT THAT WAY AND I
WOULD ALSO SAVE FOR YOU FOR FREE
CUT ME OFF I WOULD ALSO SAY.
WE LOOK AT WORLD NO.
NO SIGNATURES MY FRIEND A ME WE
WE WE WE BARS ALL THE TIME BUT I
HOPE WHAT CLEARLY SAY THAT.
RATHER IMPORTING IT FROM
COUNTRIES WHO DON'T WHO DO NOT
HAVE THE REGULATORY OBSTRUCTED
WE HAVE I THINK IT'S BETTER TO
PRODUCE AND STATE SENATOR
PLEASE.
JUST JUST TRY TO FIND A POINT I
ACTUALLY SEE THIS IS SORT OF A.
TONY USED THE WRONG WORD
PROPHYLACTIC HAS IMPLICATIONS
BUT SOMETHING THAT THERE'S NOT
CURRENTLY OFFSHORE DRILLING
OCCURRING.
BUT IN THIS DAY CALIFORNIA SO IF
WE'RE PREVENTING OR AT LEAST
MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR
THAT ACTIVITY TO OCCUR WHICH IS
NOT OTHERWISE IN CURRY OCCURRING
HOW DOES IT AFFECT IN STATE
PRODUCTION NUMBERS IN OTHER
WORDS.
THE MUSIC AND SOCIAL VOLUME WISE
WE ARE THERE IS OFFSHORE
DRILLING OFF THE STATE WE ARE DO
NOT. THIS BILL DOES NOTHING TO
PROHIBIT THESE IN THOSE EXISTING
LEASES OR NOT ISN'T GOING TO
HAVE A THING TO PROHIBIT THE
DRILLING THAT'S GOING IN FEDERAL
WATERS WHAT IT SAYS IS NO NEW
FEDERAL WATER. DRILLING WILL BE
ALLOWED
TO COME. IT WITHIN THE STATE THE
STATE NO INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE
NOT GOING TO EXPAND
INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE
RATES ARE NOW EXPANDING XIN FED
ACTUALLY IN SOME WAYS THE I MEAN
I I SEE THIS SOMEWHAT OF A
MODERATE APPROACH THAN IN THAT
YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING AFTER
THE EXISTING. LEASES IF I ONLY
COULD SIR BUT I'M NOT RIGHT YOU
KNOW RIGHT OFF WHAT I AM DOING
IS I AM SO I WE ARE RESPONDING
TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
A SAYING LAST YEAR THEY WERE
THINKING ABOUT IT AND THEN THIS
YEAR SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO
DO IT.
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SIXTY NINE
PERCENT ACCORDING TO PUBLIC
POLICY INSTITUTE CA POLE.
SIXTY NINE PERCENT OF
CALIFORNIANS OPPOSE DRILLING OFF
THE CALIFORNIA COAST PERIOD.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE ARE NOT
GOING TO ALLOW THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION?
TO GET AWAY WITH EXPANDING
DRILLING OFF OUR COAST TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING
A BY THIS WE ARE SAYING YOU
CAN'T GET THIS THANK YOU CAN'T
EXPAND YOUR DRILLING AND EXPECT
THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE
THAT BY. EXPANDING OUR RESOURCES
TO ALLOW THAT LOYAL TO COME
THROUGH STATE WATERS.
AND FURTHER. REAL EMOTION BIG
MONEY CLOSE BUT IT JUST BRIEFLY.
.
YOU KNOW THAT THAT THE FOR
COMMUNITY ARE REPRESENT OTHER
COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE
HAVE SUFFERED THE SCOURGES.
OF DRILLING OIL.
OUR ENVIRONMENT THAT ARE CLIMATE
HAS SUFFERED THE SCOURGES OF
DRILLING OIL AND FOSSIL FUELS IN
THE WARMING OF THIS PLANET AND
THE CHANGING OF THE CLIMATE.
EVEN AS RECENTLY AS JUST A FEW
MOMENTS AGO IF THERE IS MORAL
INDIGNATION TO THAT I CERTAINLY
DON'T APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF MY
COMMUNITY THAT SUFFERED THE. THE
WORST WILDFIRE IN THE STATE'S
HISTORY LOST TWENTY THREE AND
LIVES AS A RESULT OF THE
SUBSEQUENT. OF THE DEBRIS FLOW
ABOUT WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS
CLIMATE CHANGE WE KNOW THROUGH
ALL THE REAL SCIENCE GOING ON
THAT.
OF FOSSIL FUELS ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THAT OR IN GREAT MEASURE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT WE NEED TO
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IF THIS
PRESIDENT.
REFUSES TO TAKE THOSE STEPS I
BELIEVE THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA.
ARE GOING TO DO IT AND IT IS MY
HONOR AND PRIVILEGE A TO BE
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD AND
FOR WHICH I ASK YOUR IPHONE
NEGATIVE EMOTION. THIS MOVE BY
SENATOR MINING SURGICAL THE ROLE
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG AYE
STONE. STONE NO ALLEN ALLEN AYE
HUESO JACKSON HIGH JACKSON AYE
MCGUIRE.
MONEY. MONEY IN AYE STERN. STERN
AYE BY THAT.
BY THAT NO HOLD IT OPEN SO IT'S
VOTE IT HAS FIVE GOOD LOOKING O
COOKIE BROWN CALLED LET'S GO TO
FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX CENTER
JACKSON QUICKLY SAYS SPEECH
TWELVE SIXTY.
BY THE RIVER SIX S. B. TWELVE
SIXTY. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS THIS.
MEASURE S. B. TWELVE SIXTY IS
AN ON THE BUS FIRE PREVENTION IN
FORESTRY MANAGEMENT BILL. THAT
WILL PROMOTE LONG TERM FOREST
HEALTH AND WILDFIRE RESILIENCY
THROUGH CALIFORNIA THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO.
A MAKE A.
SPECIFIC THANK YOU TO YOUR
STAFF AND YOUR COMMITTEE
PARTICULARLY TO MISTER CRAVEN.
FOR HELPING TO PUT TOGETHER
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE
OF LEGISLATION.
I AM A DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE OF
HIS EFFORTS TEMAS ROCK STARS AS
YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY COMMITTEE
STAFF COLLEAGUES DURING THIS
PAST YEAR CALIFORNIA EXPERIENCE
THE LARGEST AND MOST DESTRUCTIVE
WILDFIRE SEASON IN ITS HISTORY.
NEARLY NINE THOUSAND WILD FIRES
IGNITED ACROSS THE STATE BURNING
ONE POINT TWO MILLION ACRES OF
LAND DESTROYED MORE THAN TEN
THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED
STRUCTURES. AND KILLED AT LEAST
FORTY FOUR PEOPLE ARE IN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN ALONE.
WELL THEY ARE THE FIVE OF THE OF
CALIFORNIA'S MOST DESTRUCTIVE
WILDFIRES ON RECORD OCCURRED.
DURING TWENTY SEVENTEEN FROM
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA THROUGHOUT
THE STATE AND PARTICULARLY THE
THOMAS FIRE. WHICH BURNED WHOLLY
WITHIN MY DISTRICT.
NOW THE LARGEST FOUGHT WILDFIRE
IN CALIFORNIA HISTORY BEGAN IN
DECEMBER.
A TIME WHEN WE TRADITIONALLY
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT
WILDFIRES.
IT SCORCHED BUT CLOSE TO TWO
HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND
ACRES AND LASTED FOR FORTY DAYS.
NOW THE PROBLEM IS A TWENTY
SEVENTEEN DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE
AN ABNORMALITY.
THE CONTRARY. MOST OF
CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST WILDFIRES
HAVE OCCURRED WITHIN THE PAST
THIRTY YEARS.
MASSIVE TREE DIE OFFS DUE TO
YEARS OF DROUGHT AND WIDESPREAD
IN INSECT INFESTATIONS. YEAR
ROUND FIRE CONDITIONS AND THE
CRITICAL LEVELS OF FUELS
ACCUMULATION ALL COMBINE TO
CREATE SEVERE FIRE RISK
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THE FORECAST FOR THIS YEAR
ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL
INTERAGENCY FIRE CENTER'S
PREDICTIVE OUTLOOK.
FORECASTS ABOVE NORMAL LARGE FAR
POTENTIAL AGAIN IN CALIFORNIA
DUE TO THE PERSISTENCE OF DRY
FUELS FREQUENT OFFSHORE WINDS.
AND GENERALLY UNFAVORABLE
WEATHER WE'RE AT A BREAKING
POINT IN THE STATE THIS
LEGISLATION THIS BILL AIMS TO
BREAK THAT CYCLE BY REORIENTING
CALIFORNIA'S FOREST MANAGEMENT
POLICIES. TOWARD LONG TERM
FOREST HEALTH AND FIRE
RESILIENCY. AND I WON'T GO
THROUGH THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT
IT DOES IT IS IN THE ANALYSIS
BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE NOW
GOT A SHIFT.
THE WAY WE LOOK AT FIRE
PREVENTION AS A RESULT OF THE
CHANGING CLIMATE AS A RESULT OF
THE DEATH TO THE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS HUNDRED MILLION TREES
AND DEAD IN THE STATE. THEY ARE
RIGHT FOR FOR FIRES WE NEED TO
DO BETTER TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES WE NEED TO DEAL.
AND CREATE A PROGRAM THAT
ADDRESSES THE EXISTING CONDITION
IN THE FUTURE WORKING WITH CAL
FIRE WHO HAS PRIMARY
RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS FIELD.
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE CHANGE
THE WAY WE OF DOING BUSINESS ON
pBILL DOES. AND.
I WANT TO.
INVITE THE WITNESSES TO TESTIFY
JUST TRUNCATED BECAUSE WE DON'T
SEE ANY OPPOSITION ANY
OPPOSITION HERE FOR THIS MEASURE
JUST TO GET TO THE. GET THE
SENSE OF IT ALL POLITICOS
TRUNCATE YOU'RE THE
PRESENTATIONS GIVEN THE HOUR IT
FOR JUST OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU.
OKAY THE MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS LIZ FORCED BIRTH AND I'M HERE
REPRESENTING THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY WHEREIN STRONG
SUPPORT OF AB TWELVE SIXTY AND
WE'D LIKE TO THANK SENATOR
JACKSON FOR HER LEADERSHIP ON
THIS ISSUE.
SENATE BILL TWELVE SIXTY IS THE
MOST COMPREHENSIVE FIRE AND
FORCE HEALTH BILL IN THE SENATE
THE BILL WILL HELP CALIFORNIA
INCREASE FIRE PREVENTION AND
FORCE MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES TO
MITIGATE WILDFIRE RISKS IN THE
WAKE OF THE WORST FIRES. IN OUR
STATE'S HISTORY. THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY'S IN PARTICULAR
SUPPORTIVE OF S. B. TWELVE
SIXTIES EFFORTS TO ONE PROVIDE
LOCAL ASSISTANT RESOURCES FOR
FIRE PREVENTION. AND PUBLIC
SAFETY ACTIVITIES TO INCREASE
THE STATE'S USE PRESCRIBED FIRE
AND ENSURE THE STATE MAY SPEND
FINDS AT ALL CALIFORNIA WILD
PLANTS INCLUDING THOSE OWNED BY
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT
TO HELP LEVERAGE THE FEDERAL
RESTORATION FUNDING FREED UP THE
PASSAGE OF THE WILDFIRE DISASTER
FUNDING OUT.
WELL FILES WILL CONTINUE TO GET
LARGER AND MORE DESTRUCTIVE IF
WE DON'T INCREASE FOR OUR
PREVENTION ACT EFFORTS.
THE SP TWELVE SIXTY WILL HELP
THE STATE DO THAT BY PROMOTING
FOREST HEALTH AND WILDFIRE
RESILIENCY ACROSS CALIFORNIA. WE
URGE AYE ABOUT THANK YOU TRUNK
SHORTEN IT PLEASE KEEP THAT
DON'T ADD IF YOU'RE A DON'T HAD
WITH HIS ARGUMENT SAID.
WELL IT WILL REASON AGREEMENT.
UP CRAIG THOMAS WAS HERE FORCE
LEGACY I JUST WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND SENATOR JACKSON
FOR THIS EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE
BILL IN A VERY COMPLICATED
SITUATION MAKES ME PROUD TO LIVE
IN CALIFORNIA WHEN WE CAN HEAR
ABOUT HOW BAD FIRE HAS BEEN. AND
YET WE HAVE THIS REMARKABLE BILL
THAT'S PUB PROMOTING EXTENSIVE
FIRE MARINO REDUCTION. THAT
THE PAINTING BEHIND YOU.
.
CHAMBERSBURG REMINDED ME THAT
THAT LANDSCAPE BURNED EVERY FIVE
TO FIFTEEN YEARS AND DAVIS THAT
BEAUTIFUL PHOTO. AND THAT'S THE
THING WE NEED TO GET BACK TO
HEAR THE BILL FOSTER'S IT BY
WORKING WITH CAL FIRE WORKS WITH
COMMUNITY GROUPS.
IT CALLS OUT THE SAFETY ELEMENT
IN GENERAL PLANS AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY FOR ME WHO WORKS AND
FIRE ISSUES ALL THE TIME IT
BRINGS AIR QUALITY. INTO THE
CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
THROWING ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS
HERE SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OTHER THANK YOU SO MUCH REALLY
APPRECIATE THINK ALCUIN. OTHERS
TO SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
EVENING STATE SEEKING RURAL
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA AND AS THE ANALYSIS
NOTES WE ARE ACTUALLY SUPPORT
THAT IF AMENDED ON THIS BILL.
THIS IS A GREAT BILL WE WOULD
LOVE TO SUPPORT IT EXCEPT FOR
THE ONE PROVISION ON THE ONE
HUNDRED EIGHTY DAY REVIEW OF THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT SAFETY ELEMENT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE AUTHORS
OFFICE AND THE BOARD OF FORESTRY
TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME
RESOLUTION ON THAT BECAUSE YOU
THINK THAT.
THAT'S OUR POSITION.
WHO YOU AT THE END?
BUT. RURAL COUNTIES YEAH.
IT'S A GOOD AFTERNOON MR MEMBERS
BRIAN WHITE HERE FOR THE CALVET
LESS TOWARDS ASSOCIATION WHERE
THE REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL
FORESTERS WE ALSO HAVE A SUPPORT
FROM INTO POSITION ON THE BILL
WE'VE TALKED CENTER JACK'S ABOUT
SOME OF OUR. ISSUES THAT WE LIKE
TO SING THE BILL WITH RESPECT TO
ACKNOWLEDGING OTHER FORMS OF
FIRE MANAGEMENT WHICH INCLUDES
MECHANICAL THINNING. AND BIOMASS
PRODUCTION BUT WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT. SHE'S
A ATTACK IN THE PRIME OF A
STANDARD WHICH IS REALLY A BIG
IMPEDIMENT TO TRY TO GET SOME OF
THESE LIABILITY ISSUES ADDRESS.
THANK MY.
YOU CARE MEMBERS JEAN HEARSE
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THE COUNTY
VENTURA IN A STRAIGHT UP SUPPORT
POSITION. PURVEY. THANK YOU
EARLY PALM A SOUTH PACIFIC FORCE
TRUST ALSO IN SUPPORT PEOPLE.
BILLION OR TEASE ON BEHALF OF
PIXAR LAND TRUST AND SAVE THE
REDWOODS LEAGUE IN SUPPORT THINK
IF.
HE SAID I DON'T HAS PUT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF RESOURCE
CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND THE
WETLANDS CONSERVANCY IN SPORT
THINGS MUCH OF A.
MR CHAIRS MARK FRANCE MAKER MAP
WITH CINEMA COUNTY WATER AGENCY
SENT MY COUNTY AGRICULTURE
PRESERVATION OPEN SPACE DISTRICT
AND SUPPORT THANK SENATOR
JACKSON'S YEAH.
CAPTION KOPECKY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA FORESTRY ASSOCIATION
WAS SORT OF A TWEENER POSITION
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE
SENATOR ADDRESSING AN ISSUE THAT
NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN A
COMPREHENSIVE MANNER. BUT THE
MOST RECENT AMENDMENTS.
THERE'S A PROVISION IN THERE
THAT.
CHANGES CAL FIRES EXISTING
RESPONSIBILITY AND WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO
ADDRESS.
ADDRESSES WORK ON.
OKAY THAT WE ADDRESS
INCOMPREHENSIBLE DINNER SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU BOOK WITH YOUR
YEAH. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
BRAND INTO IT ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION WE HAVE A
SUPPORT FROM ANY POSITION WORDS
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
AUTHORS OFFICE TO TWEAK SOME
LANGUAGE RELATED TO. OUR ROLE IN
HELPING TO DEVELOP AND.
AND IMPLEMENT THE AIR QUALITY
MONITORING AND DATA PUBLIC
OUTREACH PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE
COSTS ARE COVERED BUT IT'S BEEN
GOOD SO FAR SO THANK YOU IGNORE
OPPOSITION. FIVE ANY QUESTIONS
FOR THE MEMBERS TO HAVE A
MOTION.
MOVE BY SENATOR MONICA CENTER
STONE.
JUST BROKE A CALLING THAT CREATE
THE AUTHOR BRING THIS FORWARD IN
THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS OF
THE PRIVATE PROPERTY LIABILITY
ISSUES AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE
WORKING WITH THE OPPOSITE ARE
WORKING ON THAT ISSUE I'M JUST
GONNA LAY OFF TODAY UNTIL WE SEE
WHAT THE. BUT BECAUSE I GET A
MOTION NOTHING FURTHER SECRETARY
CALL THE ROLL.
IT'S TO CUSTOM VINYL QUALITY
SENATORS HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG
AYE STONE. ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
HUESO JACKSON AYE AYE JACKSON
AYE MCGUIRE MONNING. MONNING AYE
STERN BIDAK.
OKAY SO IT HAS FOR ME OR WILL
KEEP THROUGH ALL OPEN THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN BUSH YOU VERY
MUCH CAN YOU KNOCK ON THE DOOR
THERE SENATOR HIGHEST EARNERS
OUTSIDE. FINNA PORTANTINO.
THANK YOU.
OKAY THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWELVE AS SPEED THIRTEEN
SEVENTY.
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE BY
SENATOR STERN. PLEASE COME IN
THIRTY SECONDS SENATOR ALLEN KEY
PRESENT HIS BILL.
HERE'S GOVERNMENT OKAY. THIS IS
FILE ITEM TWELVE SB THIRTEEN
SEVENTY SERVE.
YOU OPPOSITION ON THIS.
NO.
NO OPPOSITION SO GOVERN YOURSELF
ACCORDINGLY.
NO BILLS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
MONNING.
THANK YOU MEMBERS.
THIS BILL REQUIRES THE SAME
DISCLOSURE OF THE GAS INDUSTRY
THE OIL INDUSTRY IS CURRENTLY
SUBJECT TO FOR WELL STIMULATION
TREATMENTS I APPRECIATE. AND.
THE ANALYSIS AND I AM PREPARED.
NO I'M ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS ON
ANOTHER MEASURE NO AMENDMENTS
HERE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE.
HERE I HAVE SIERRA CLUB WITH ME.
HALL MAYOR TAUGHT YOU SUED FOR
SUPPORT TO GIVE YOU A PERMANENT
SEAT.
CATHERINE PHILIP SIERRA CLUB
CALIFORNIA THIS BILL IS FAIRLY
SIMPLE AND THEN ADJUSTING SHORES
THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE
BEEN INCLUDED IN PREVIOUS RIGHT
UNDER PREVIOUS REGULATORY
REGIMES IS NOW INCLUDED. THE OF
BANK THINKS.
VERY GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE IN
SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE.
.
I'M NOT SPLIT WITH WHAT'S GOING
TO BRING HIM FOR SUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS THE MEMBERS SAYING
NOT ONLY.
WE ARE NOW WE HAVE A MOTION FOR
SENATOR MINING.
THANK YOU FOR THAT ELOQUENT
CLOSE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL
INVESTIMENTO QUALITY SENATORS
HERTZBERG AYE HERTZBERG AYE
STONE. STILL NO ALLEN.
HUESO JACKSON.
JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE MONEY.
MONNING AYE STERN. STERN HIGH BY
THAT.
BY THAT NO.
IT HAS LOWERED EVEN MORE FOR ALL
WE STILL IN A VOTE.
LET'S.
MOVE ON THE FILE AND NUMBER
THIRTEEN CENTER STERN THANK YOU
MISS FROM YOU KNOW THE NEXT
FILM.
BY GOT THAT FROM THE THIRTEEN SP
FOURTEEN SEVEN THERE WERE SOME
AMENDMENTS TO SENATOR.
STERN AND I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE.
BUT NOT INSIST ON THE SECOND
AMENDMENT WHICH YOU'LL FIND.
ON PAGE.
PAGE SIX OF THE ANALYSIS
WE'RE ASKING THAT THAT BE
DELETED WE ASK TO BE DELETED
THAT WOULD LEAD THE LEAGUE IN
THE REASON IT IS JUST
THERE'S A SERIES OF RECENT
RESPECT OR NEW JERSEY LAWSUIT.
AND.
PREEMPTION POTENTIAL PREEMPTION%
CHALLENGE BUT WE'RE WE'RE
PULLING OUT. THERE BUT WOULD ASK
YOU TO TAKE THE OTHER AMENDMENTS
THAT GREAT THANK YOU MISTER IN
THAT IS ACCEPTABLE IS A PUBLIC
SAFETY AMENDMENTS ONE AND THREE
YES.
PREPARED TO DO SO THANK OKAY
LET'S SEE OF OPPOSITION TO THIS
THING.
YES.
PUT IT OPPOSITION. STRONG
OPPOSITION TO SEE OVER THERE
OKAY GO AHEAD SIR WHO WILL BE
EXTREMELY BRIEF.
.
WE JUST SAW THE. DEATH OF THE
LAST WHITE RHINO ON.
THE PLANET.
ELEPHANT SERVED THIRTY PERCENT
IN DECLINE. CLIENTS FORTY THREE
PERCENT.
AND. AS WE KNOW WITH THE BLACK
RHINO.
AN ILL FATE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO
BE PART OF.
OF A STREAM OF COMMERCE IN THIS
WORLD THAT IS DESTROYING
BIODIVERSITY.
AND FOR THAT REASON I WOULD ASK
THAT WE ALL TAKE A LEADERSHIP
ROLE HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
AND PUSHING BACK ON THE TROPHY
HUNTING INDUSTRY WHEN IT COMES
TO ENDANGERED SPECIES.
SO WITH THAT I WOULD DEFER TO
SOME OF MY EXPERTS HERE.
AND SEND A STRONG SIGNAL TO THE
WORLD THERE IS THIS COUNTRY.
THAT A SUSTAINABLE FREE FUTURE
FOR FOR THESE ANIMAL SPECIES CAN
BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT. A TROPHY
HUNTING THAT RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR A VOTE.
WELL FIRST.
I THINK YEAH. RETURN THIS WHILE
MONTH FRIENDS OF ANIMALS.
YEAH I'M SORRY RACHEL FROM
WHERE.
OF FRIENDS OF ANIMALS THAT.
OKAY YET MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I AM
RACHEL MISSPELLING FROM DENVER
COLORADO. AND I'M HERE
REPRESENTING FRIENDS OF ANIMALS
FLUENT FOR THIS HEARING.
BUT YOU FLUENT FOR THIS HEARING
FROM KALRA THANK YOU VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE YOUR
EXPERTISE.
I SUPPORT THIS BILL BECAUSE MY
ORGANIZATION BELIEVES IT IS
IMPORTANT TO PUT AN END TO THE
PRACTICE OF TROPHY HUNTING.
FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO THE IDEA
OF THE TROPHY HUNTING BENEFITS
WILDLIFE CONSERVATION WENT ON
QUESTIONS BUT THAT IS NOT
CHANGING.
MANY OF THE SPECIES THIS
LEGISLATION IS INTENDED TO
PROTECT OUR A SERIOUS DECLINE.
WITHIN A GENERATION WE MIGHT NOT
HAVE ANY WILD RHINOS ELEPHANTS
OR ALLIANCE.
SUPPORTERS OF TROPHY HUNTING
BASED CONSERVATION INCREASINGLY
IGNORE THE FACT AND THE FACT
THAT THE SO CALLED BENEFITS OF
TROPHY HUNTING. HAVE NOT
OVERCOME THE LONG TERM NEGATIVE
EFFECT OF HUNTING.
NAMELY THAT ALLOWING LEGALIZE
KILLING OF THESE ANIMALS
DECREASES THEIR CHANCES OF LONG
TERM SURVIVAL IN THE WILD.
FRIENDS OF ANIMALS HAS
REPEATEDLY ARGUED AGAINST THIS
HUNTING CENTERED VIEW OF
CONSERVATION.
AMERICAN HUNTERS DO NOT ACT TO
BENEFIT CONSERVATION OR HELP TO
PROTECT ENDANGERED OR THREATENED
SPECIES.
PRO HUNTING ORGANIZATIONS ALSO
TAKE THE POSITION THAT HUNTING
IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO COMBAT
ILLEGAL TRAFFICKING AND
POACHING.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THE
STATEMENT EITHER.
IN FACT THERE ARE MERGING
STUDIES THE DEMONSTRATE JUST THE
OPPOSITE. THAT THE LAWFUL TAKING
OF AN ENDANGERED OR THREATENED
ANIMAL CAN HAVE AN INDIRECT
NEGATIVE AFFECT ON THE SPECIES.
THE STUDY SHOWED THAT SUCH
ACTIVITIES CAN CREATE A DUAL
MARKET THAT CAN CREATE
LAUNDERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
BLACK MARKET TRADE IF THE
SPECIES ON EARTH PARTS.
AND COULD HAMPER LAW ENFORCEMENT
ACTIVITIES TO PROTECT THE
SPECIES.
THESE REPORTS SUGGEST THE LEGAL
MARKET MAY ACTUALLY INCREASE
DEMAND IN THE ILLEGAL MARKET
BECAUSE PRICES FOR ILLEGALLY
CAUGHT ANIMALS CAN GO UP HAS
LEGAL DEMAND INCREASES.
FINALLY IT IS IMPORTANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT SCIENTISTS KNOW
WARREN THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDST
OF A MASSIVE EXTINCTION OF
ANIMALS.
IF WE ARE TO PREVENT THIS ALL
WORLD GOVERNMENTS MUST TAKE
ACTION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MA'AM.
MISTER CHAIRMAN WAS COMMITTEE ON
GOOD AFTERNOON NUMBER I KNOW
WHAT KEY BUT THE CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY.
MC HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR
MEMBERS ARE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND
MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS IN
CALIFORNIA.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL THE ICONIC
AFRICAN SPECIES PROTECTION ACT
IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP IN
REDUCING UNNECESSARY AND
UNSUSTAINABLE KILLING OF
ELEPHANTS BRIAN'S RHINOS. OTHER
SPECIES THAT ARE UNDER DIRE
THREAT DUE TO HABITAT LOSS
POACHING AS WELL AS LAWFUL KID
KILLING. BY INTERNATIONAL TROPHY
HUNTERS THE UNITED STATES.
IS THE LARGEST IMPORTER OF
WILDLIFE TROPHIES IN THE WORLD
WITH HUNDREDS. OF ELEPHANTS AND
THOUSANDS OF LINES KILLED IN
IMPORTED OVER THE PAST DECADE.
MANY OF THESE ANIMALS ARE KILLED
BY CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS AND
BROUGHT INTO THE STATE. WHAT
PROPONENTS OF TROPHY HUNTING
REGULARLY SITE THE SUSTAINABLE
NATURE OF THEIR PURSUIT AND THE
PURPORTED CONSERVATION BENEFITS
THAT FLOW FROM SUCH KILLING
RECENT STUDIES HAVE DEMONSTRATED
THAT THIS IS OFTEN NOT THE CASE?
MANY OF THE STUDIES ARE CITED IN
OUR WRITTEN COMMENTS THIS PART
OF THE SPELL.
THROUGHOUT AFRICA DEPARTED ACT
ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF TROPHY
HUNTING IS REGULARLY OVERSTATED
AND RARELY DEMONSTRATED FOR
EXAMPLE STUDIES SUGGEST NOW THAT
AS LITTLE AS THREE PERCENT OF
TROPHY HUNTING REVENUES ACTUALLY
SHARED WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FROM
WILDLIFE WATCHING.
SEED THOSE OF HUNTING BY AT
LEAST TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.
TROPHY HUNTING NOT ONLY RESULTS
IN THE NEED THE STATUS OF
INDIVIDUAL ANIMALS BUT IS A REAL
CONTRIBUTOR TO POPULATION
DECLINES OF MANY IMPERILED
SPECIES IN PARTICULAR. CLIENTS
ARE PERHAPS THE MOST COMPELLING
EXAMPLE OF THE HARMFUL EFFECTS
OF TROPHY HUNTING. AS A SPECIES
HAS DECLINED BY OVER FORTY
PERCENT IN THE LAST TWO DECADES.
TROPHY HUNTING IDENTIFIED AS A
MAJOR FACTOR IN THE DECLINE.
IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD OVER
TWENTY THOUSAND AFRICAN MIND
PARTS WERE TRADED. REPRESENTING
OVER SEVEN THOUSAND INDIVIDUAL
ALLIANCE THE U. S. IMPORTED OVER
HALF OF THESE PRIMARILY IN THE
FORM OF TROPHIES.
THIS DECLINE RESULTED IN THE
AFRICAN MIND BEING LISTED AS A
THREATENED SPECIES UNDER THE
FEDERAL USA CANOE SPECIES ACT IN
TWENTY FIFTEEN.
HOWEVER NOT WITHSTANDING THE
ESSAYS REQUIREMENT THAT THE
KILLING OF A LISTED SPECIES
CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONSERVATION.
IN LATE TWENTY SEVENTEEN THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BEGAN
AUTHORIZING THE IMPORTATION OF
LYING TROPHIES FROM ZIMBABWE AND
OTHER COUNTRIES EVEN THOUGH IT
IS CLEAR THAT CORRUPTION AND
MISMANAGEMENT. IN MANY PLACES
RENDER ANY CONSERVATION BENEFITS
FROM HUNTING ILLUSORY THAT
PASSED.
IN THE ABSENCE OF RATIONAL
FEDERAL MANAGEMENT UNDER THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ACTION BY
THE STATE IS CLEARLY NEEDED.
BECAUSE OF THE ROLE THE US
TROPHY HUNTERS GENERALLY IN
CALIFORNIA HUNTERS SPECIFICALLY.
IN THE UNSUSTAINABLE KILLING OF
AFRICAN WILDLIFE S. B. FOURTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN IS NOT JUST A
SYMBOLIC BILL BUT ONE THAT WOULD
ULTIMATELY HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON
THE GROUND WHILE ENSURING THAT
CALIFORNIANS. ARE NO LONGER
COMPLICIT IN DRIVING THE
EXTINCTION OF SOME OF THE MOST
IMPERIAL AND ICONIC SPECIES ON
THE PLANET THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF THIS IS
SUPPORT.
ANY OPPOSITION.
BUT SUPPORT I'M SORRY PAGLIA.
GIVEN A CHOICE.
THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL. AND
PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE ON THE
PLANET IS IN SUPPORT OF OF
REGULATIONS AND LAWS SUCH AS
THIS EXCEPT VERY FEW THE ONES
THAT PROFITS SO PLEASE THERE SO
FEW ANIMALS LEFT. THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SUPPORT. MISTER CHAIR. JUST
MILAN AS YOU MAY DETECT BECAUSE
BORN AND RAISED IN SOUTH AFRICA.
AND TWENTY YEARS AGO BEFORE
COMING TO THE STATES I THINK I
WOULD HAVE AGREED WITH THE
OPPOSITION THERE WAS A LOT OF
TALK IN AFRICA ABOUT HOW.
FUNDING IS GOING TO HELP THAT
PROTECT THE SPECIES I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT ANYMORE OPEN HAVE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE FUND
VOTE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL WE DON'T HAVE TO KILL
ANIMALS LOVE THEM.
THANK YOU.
PATTY THINKER I'M A
REPRESENTATIVE FOR ANIMAL
DEFENDERS IN OUR NATIONAL WHICH
HAS AN OFFICE IN LOS ANGELES AND
THOUSANDS OF SUPPORTERS WHO
JOINED. IN A NURTURING YOUR
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL WHAT IS
HAPPENING TO THE AFRICAN
WILDLIFE IS A GLOBAL TRAGEDY.
AND WE MUST DO SOMETHING AND MY
SENATOR STERN HAS WRITTEN A
GREAT BILL TO DO JUST THAT
PIRATE YOUR SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
OPPOSITION THE MEASURE.
HE DOES GIVE UP YOUR CHAIRS HER
FORM.
I JUST ONE CHAIR.
WHY GO?
YEAH COME UP FRONT.
PLEASE SIR GOOD AFTERNOON DON
GOTTEN ANY TIME SACRAMENTO
CHAPTER PRESIDENT STOPPED FOR A
CLUB I READ REPRESENTS A FOR A
CLUB IS A CO CHAIR. OF THE. FEI
COALITION. WE OPPOSES
WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
FIRST OFF.
BUT FOR HUNTING IS A WAY OF LIFE
IN AFRICA THAT.
PIRATES MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE THERE A TYPICAL SO
FOREIGN TANZANIA WILL. WORK FOR
ONE HUNDRED WILL HAVE FIFTEEN
DIFFERENT PEOPLE. IN THAT CAMP
WORKING.
.
WORK HUNTING THAT IS BUT
CONSERVATION TOOL THAT WE USE IN
THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS
AROUND THE WORLD.
ALL ANIMALS OR OR SURVEYED WE
HAVE PULLED HIS ARE DONE WE NEED
BOTH.
BUT WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT IS VOTE
TO TAKE.
THE ACCESS.
ANIMALS OFF AND KEEP IT.
AT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW. THOSE
FORESEEABLE HABITAT ENOUGH
WHAT'S BEING DONE IN AFRICA AS
WELL AS.
IN UNITED STATES. IN KENYA WHEN
THEY BAO OUTLAWED.
SPORT HUNTING.
THEY HAD FIFTY THOUSAND
ELEPHANTS
TODAY THEY HAVE FEWER THAN FIVE
THOUSAND.
WHY BECAUSE A SAFARI OPERATORS
OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T PUT?
BOB WILDLIFE ANTI HO CHI BICU.
ANTI POACHING UNITS IN THE
FIELD.
TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN I MADE MY
SEVENTEENTH TRIP TO AFRICA.
I WOULD TO.
WEEKS AND SOUTH AFRICA WORKING
WITH GAME.
BUT RANCHERS WORKING WITH
OUTFITTERS WHAT CAN WE DO A
SAFARI CLUB TO HELP YOU KEEP
POACHING DOWN. FROM THERE I WENT
TO TANZANIA.
I SPENT TWO WEEKS IN THE BUSH
WHAT THE ANTI POACHING.
TEAM.
BUT VEHICLE THAT YOU'D PUT PAID
FOR BY THE HUNTING COMPANY.
THEY WERE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
PAID BY THE HUNTING COMPANY THE
FUEL WAS A HUNTING COMPANIES.
AND THE FOOD IN CAP BELONG TO
THE HUNTING COMPANY.
THE TANZANIAN GOVERNMENT PUT
ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY IN TWO.
BUT ANTI POACHING IN THAT
COUNTRY.
SUBSEQUENTLY. WE OF THE FISH AND
WILDLIFE SERVICE IN CALIFORNIA
OR IN THE UNITED STATES HAS
BANNED THE IMPORTATION OF LIONS
AND ELEPHANTS FROM. TANZANIA
BECAUSE THEY HAD KEVIN DUNN OF
THOUGHT ADEQUATE SURVEY WHICH WE
CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE.
WE ARE ALL ABOUT SCIENCE BASED
DATA THAT'S WHAT WE'VE. BY BY
NOT A SEAT OF OUR PANTS.
SO. INTWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN.
THOSE.
MINISTER TOURISM FOR ZAMBIA CAME
TO OUR CONVENTION. ASKING US TO
HELP THEM RAISE SOME MONEY TO DO
A.
SURVEY ON A WILDLIFE SU SE COULD
SUBSTANTIATE CUNNING AND KEEP IT
LEGAL IN THAT COUNTRY. AND THREE
DAYS WE RAISED ONE POINT ONE
MILLION DOLLARS
FOUR. ZAMBIA TO DO THEIR SURVEY.
SUBSEQUENTLY THAT SAME YEAR THE
HUMANE SOCIETY REYES A HUNDRED
AND FIFTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS.
AND BY THEIR TAX RETURNS LESS
THAN ONE PERCENT WINDOW THE
REASON THAT THEY SAVE THE
PROGRAM. BURN THAT MONEY OR WAS
BUT IT WAS DONATED CHO. SAFARI
CLUB TWENTY MILLION DOLLAR
BUDGET ONE POINT ONE MILLION
WENT TO SAVE.
AFRICAN ANIMALS IN ONE COUNTRY.
IN MY MY MATH A HUNDRED AND
FIFTY OR ONE POINT FIVE ONE
MILLION WHAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY
TO TO DO WHAT SUPPOSED TO DO.
CONSERVATION IS HOLY DONE
WORLDWIDE BY HUNTERS.
WE HAVE FOUR TROPHY HUNTERS
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. THE CREAM
OF THE CROP USUALLY THAT THE
OLDER ANIMALS OR.
PASTOR PRIME.
.
WE PAY THE BILLS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY AM
MICHAEL PARKER. OTHER PEOPLE
HERE PUT INTO A BUT WE'VE PUT A
TON OF MONEY INTO IT WE DO A TON
OF RESEARCH WE HAVE. BIOLOGISTS
TO WORK FOR US FULL TIME TO DO
IT.
WORK ON TOP OF THAT WE ARE THE
WAY WE WANT HUNTING.
FOR MY KIDS AND MY GRANDKIDS IN
THEIR KIDS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET.
BUT POPULATION GET WIPED OUT.
STATE A CALIFORNIA SAID NO
ANIMAL NEVER BECOME EXTINCT FROM
SPORT HONEY.
CONSERVATION THE WIFE USE.
PRESERVATION NON USE.
SIXTY MINUTES DID IN OUR OF
BELONG THREE ANIL OPEN WYOMING
THAT THEY WERE BROUGHT IN FROM
EXTINCTION FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.
WELL THEY WENT INTO TEXAS THEIR
THRIVING.
FISH AND WILDLIFE CAME IN AND
SAID HEY THE SINGLE EXTINCT IN
THEIR OWN COUNTRY WHILE THE ROOM
WILL RAISE HUMAN. AND TEXAS
SUMMERS SHIPPING THEM BACK.
SO. AND THE RESON THAT THEY
WERE HUNDRED THERE WAS DEBATE
MORE. MAKE MORE MONEY TO BUY
FOOD TO KEEP THE SITE ALIVE.
SO IT'S IT'S A VICIOUS CIRCLE.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE.
HUNTING.
FIFTY PERCENT DON'T LIKE CUNNING
FIFTY PERCENT LIKE AND SEVENTY
PERCENT DON'T CARE.
WE ARE JOB IS TO EDUCATE THE
SEVENTY PERCENT BIT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING
OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR
PRETTY GOOD TIME. ANYBODY ELSE
OPPOSITION QUESTIONS FOR THE
MEMBERS.
BUT A CLOSER SENATOR.
YES.
.
APPRECIATE THE HEARING TODAY IN
THE THE COMMENTS RAISED BY THE
OPPOSITION.
.
WE'VE SEEN THAT.
CHANGE OF POSITION IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION ON MULTIPLE
OCCASIONS SINCE THEY'VE COME
INTO OFFICE ON THIS QUESTION.
THEY STARTED OFF BY ALLOWING THE
TROPHY HUNTING THEN REVERSED
COURSE NOW U. S. FISH IN WHAT OF
FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE'S.
LOOKING AT A CASE BY CASE BASIS
HAVING WE CAN'T AFFORD IS ARE TO
RELY ON THAT FEDERAL UNCERTAINTY
AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO RESOLVE
THEIR POLICY AND WHEN THE
PRESIDENT GETS.
ONE MIND TOGETHER ON THIS AND WE
SORT IT WE HAVE TO STEP OUT HERE
IN TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE AND.
AND NOT ASSUME THAT.
THE DC IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
PROTECT THE SPECIES.
I THINK.
YOU KNOW.
THERE ARE DID THE CONSENSUS
RIGHT NOW IS SORT OF UNDENIABLE
IN THE BY DIVERSITY FOR THE BEST
QUESTIONS HOW TO GET THERE AND I
THINK WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE
PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPLE IN
CALIFORNIA. THAT TROPHY HUNTING
IS RICK TRULY NOT THE KEY TO
SUSTAINING THESE POPULATIONS AS
WE HEARD. MULTIPLE FOLD.
INCREASE.
IN REVENUES FROM NON HUNTING
BASED TOURISM SAFARIS WITHOUT
GUNS.
AT LEAST FOR THE THE PEOPLE NOT.
STEWARDING THE SAFARI ITSELF I
THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY.
THE I RESPECTFULLY ASK RATHER
THAN AN IMAGE YOU SEE ONE THING
I'M GOING TO AFRICA FOR MORE
THAN THIRTY YEARS.
AND I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENT
YOU'VE MADE BECAUSE HER JUST
FINISHED THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENTS WE
MADE HERE TODAY AND I THE STOCK
AND PERSUADED AND IN THE ON THE
GROUND EXPERIENCE THAT A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS WITH LOCALS. WITH
EMOTION.
SO MOVED BY SENATOR MINING
CYCLICAL THE ROLE TO PASS A
PUBLIC SAFETY SENATORS HERTZBERG
AYE HERTZBERG AYE STONE. STONE
NO ALLEN. QUIST SO. JACKSON
JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE MONEY. MONEY
NOT AYE STERN. AYE STERN AYE
VINAYAK BY THAT NO.
ALL OPEN.
QUESTION.
RETURN PROCESS AVAILABLE BILL.
HERTZBERG GOOD A WORD SB ELEVEN
FORTY SEVEN HELD JACKSON MISTER
CHAIRMAN.
HE'S MARKS COME AGAIN.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
MISTER CHAIRMAN.
OF.
LAST YEAR.
I'M GOING TO.
CALLED INTO SENATOR JACKSON'S
OFFICE.
BECAUSE THERE WAS A.
OIL.
SCHOOL OVER THERE WAS A IT WAS
THE NAME OF THAT I'M TRYING TO
FIND THE.
BUT THE BIG A PLATFORM HOLLY AND
RECON ISLAND AND.
WHEN CON BUT THE RINCON
RESERVATION YEAH.
PLATFORM HOLLY WAS IN
BANKRUPTCY.
AND WE HAD A SERIES OF MEETINGS
WITH THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION
AT THAT TIME.
I TRIED FIGURE WHAT THE HECK'S
GOING ON.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS
PLATFORM HOLLYWOOD IN BANKRUPTCY
AND.
THE QUESTION WAS WHO WAS GOING
TO PAY TO CLEAN THIS TOO DEEP
COMMISSION THIS THIS PLATFORM
THIS WELL.
BUT AS WE LOOKED AT IT AND WE
FOUND THAT THERE WAS WORTH
THIRTY MILLION DOLLAR BOND AND
THAT WAS ALL THERE WAS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS ON THE
HOOK FOR A TON OF MONEY.
STATE LANDS COMMISSION JUST
RECEIVED TWENTY TWO MILLION
DOLLARS IN EMERGENCY FUNDING
WOULD LEADING TO THAT AND IS NOW
SEEKING A HUNDRED AND EIGHT
MILLION. ONE HUNDRED EIGHT POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET
CHANGE PROPOSAL FROM THE GENERAL
FUND JUST TO PAY FOR PHASE ONE
OF DECOMMISSIONING BOTH THE
PLATFORM AND THE ISLANDS.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO.
WE TOOK A LOOK WE DUG INTO THIS
DEAL TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
SOLVE IT AND SO BASICALLY WHAT
WE'RE WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE LEARNED
WAS THIS. PIECE ARGUES THIRTY
EIGHT PLATFORMS I THINK ARE OFF
OF THE COAST OF.
TWENTY THREE EXCUSE ME BUT ANY
EVENT THE IDEA IS.
BUT THIS IS BEEN PART OF MY RIGS
TO REACH LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN
EVERY YEAR. A AS PART OF THIS
BUT WERE THE ULTIMATE THEORY IS
THAT ONCE YOU GET THE RIGHT TO
PUT THIS THING ON STATE LANDS
THE THEORY SHOULD TAKE IT CLEAN
IT UP.
AND THAT'S IT.
WE'LL ALONG WE WILL COMPANIES
REALLY GOT TO THE END OF THE
VOTE USEFUL LIFE SOLD THESE OFF
THE COMPANIES DIDN'T HAVE
BALANCE SHEETS THAT WERE SO
SIGNIFICANT. AND SOLICITED
HAVING A DEEP POCKET LIKE THERE
IS A SANTA SUSANNA AND SOME OF
THE AREAS OF THOSE OTHER CLEAN
UP FOR BROWNFIELDS LEGISLATION.
WE HAD THIS LAW THAT BASICALLY
IT WAS A BOND THAT WAS
INSUFFICIENT
TO COVER THE LIABILITY SO WHAT
WE'RE DOING IN THIS LEGISLATION
IS A RESULT OF THAT SITUATION
LOOKING IN SPENDING TIME WITH.
LAST WISHES TRY TO FIX IT AND
BASICALLY REQUIRING A DRAMATIC
INCREASE IN TERMS OF THE BONDING
REQUIREMENTS AND MAKING THOSE
DETERMINATIONS THAT'S WHAT THIS
BILL IS ALL ABOUT THAT'S WHERE
IT CAME FROM. ITS PLATFORM HOLLY
INCENTIVIZED AND ASK YOU SUPPORT
HAPPEN ANSWER QUESTIONS
I THINK WE'VE GOT A. MARKETS TO
MAKE YOUR HERE AGAIN BECAUSE HE
HASN'T TESTIFIED ENOUGH THE IF
FOR AGENDA PRICE UNTIL.
HE'S GOT TO JUSTIFY ANOTHER TEN
TIMES AND.
GO AHEAD.
I'M GONNA CHARGER THAT WAY FIVE
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR ASKED BY
LOBBYISTS FOR THE CALIFORNIA.
LEAVE CONSERVATION VOTERS TO
VOICE THEIR SUPPORT HERE TODAY
THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD.
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU IT SHE
MIGHT FEW AREAS BUT WE ALSO SET
UP A FUND AND MY THEORY CENTER
JACKSON WE GET TO IT I'M GONNA.
GIVE YOU WILL FEEL RIGHT NOW IS
I WANT TO TAKING CRITICIZING
FUND FROM THE DECOMMISSIONING OF
THE WELLS UNDER RIGS TO REEFS
AND PUT IT IN HERE TO COVER ANY
COSTS SUMMIT A TIE IN TOGETHER.
ISSUE NO.
IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING THANK
YOU MISTER SENATE ALL YOU KID
ANY OTHER A PROPONENTS OF A SB
ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN.
THE GOING TO JUST SAY NOT ALL
QUALITY OPPOSITION IF WE HAVE
ANY TO SB ELEVEN FORTY SEVEN AND
WE SEE A COUPLE COMING FORWARD.
WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
TRAINERS. BETTER LOOK AT HER.
WHAT HEADLOCK OR A HUG I JUST
WANNA KNOW?
YEAH.
DILLON.
.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR CHAIR IN
IT AND MEMBERS. COPY ANTHONY
THOMAS SOME THE CALIFORNIA
INDEPENDENT PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION AND.
CALIFORNIA NATURAL GAS PRODUCERS
ASSOCIATION.
GOOD OR STILL REVIEWING THE
BILL BUT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
COUPLE OF EARLY OBSERVATIONS
THAT THE FIRST BEING IS THAT.
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE BELIEVE WE
UNDERSTAND WHAT. THE AUTHOR'S
INTENT IS BUT WE WANT TO BE
CAREFUL ABOUT PRECEDENT SETTING.
AND ADOPTING THIS TYPE OF A
MODEL IMPACTING ON SHORE FROM
NATURAL SHARON'SREQUIREMENTS
THAT IS GOING TO BE CERTAINLY AN
ISSUE FOR US. THE SECOND IS IS
CREATING A SYSTEM WHICH DOGGER
HAS CARTE BLANCHE FOR SITTING
BEHIND BEING LEVELS.
ON SITE SPECIFIC BASES MEANS
INTERESTING TO CREATING A SYSTEM
THAT DETERS THE ABILITY FOR
MAJORS.
TO SELL THE INDEPENDENCE.
AND LARGER INDEPENDENCE TO SELL
TO OTHER INDEPENDENCE WELL. I'M
NOT SURE THAT WOULD NEXT TO BE
THE GOAL OF THE AUTHORS BUT
AGAIN JUST ON SOME EARLY
OBSERVATIONS DAHLE TO SOME
OBSERVATIONS THAT WE HAVE. THOSE
COULD TURN INTO SOME CONCERNS.
HE MEANT THAT THE AUTHOR
MENTIONED A BIT OF A FUNDING
SOURCE PROBABLY WAS CERTAINLY
LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE
INTENDED TO COME FROM.
I REPRESENT SMALL PRODUCERS I
HAVE MEMBERS I HAVE MEMBERS WITH
ELEVEN EMPLOYEES FIFTEEN
EMPLOYEES WE AT THE.
THE IDEAL SMALL BUSINESS IF YOU
MAY MEMBERS. I'M.
THE FUNDING SOURCE TO BE
CERTAIN IMPORTANT AND THERE
COULD BE OTHER BILLS FLOATING
AROUND THE LEGISLATURE THAT MAY
BE OF SOME ASSISTANCE ON THIS.
AND WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR
FROM THE AUTHORS OFFICE.
SO AGAIN WERE A TWEENER UPON
THIS AND LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE
THOUGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO.
THANK YOU FOR JUST MONEY RIGHT.
CARE MEMBERS WE SUCH AS WITH THE
WESTERN SICK PETRON ASSOCIATION
I LIKE TO ALSO ASSOCATE MY
COMMENTS WITH MY COUNTERPART AT
CIPRO WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR AND AND
HIS STAFF.
AND AND MEETING.
SOON TO DISCUSS SOME OF THESE
ISSUES. SPECIFICALLY ON THE
APPLICABILITY.
OF THE BILL WITHIN STATE LANDS
ON CURRENT OFFSHORE ASSETS.
WITHIN STATE LANDS AS WELL AS
THE BONDING FEASIBILITY IN THE
CURRENT MARKET AS WELL TO THINK
IF THEY GIVE HER TESTIMONY.
ANY QUESTIONS.
BY ANY SENATORS ON SENATOR
JACKSON'S.
THANK YOU SO MUCH SO I I'D LIKE
TO CLARIFY SO WE ALL COME TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
AND I KNOW THAT THE SENATOR
WANTED TO SHORTEN SWEETNESS BUT
THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS SET OF
ISSUES.
WE'VE GOT COMPANIES SHOULD HAVE
COME IN MADE. TONS OF MONEY.
THEY SELL THEM TO A LESSER
COMPANY. AND THEN AT SOME POINT
THE LESSER COMPANY WHO CAN'T DO
THE WORK NECESSARY TO KEEP THE.
OF THE RIGS RUNNING CLEANLY.
JUST WALK AWAY.
LEAVING YOU AND ME.
TAXPAYERS TO PAY THE BILLS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEED TO
CONTINUE TO RUN THE FACILITY FOR
A PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL THEY CAN
START DOWNGRADING IT. AND
DECOMMISSION IT
AND SO WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS
NGUYEN VAN A CO WHICH WAS AN OIL
COMPANY. FINALLY DECLARED
BANKRUPTCY LEAVING A A PASSING
AND HANDING LITERALLY HANDING
THE D. BACK TO THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND SAID HEY GUYS
THIS IS ON YOU.
WE DISCOVERED THE ONLY BONDING.
TO PROTECT FROM TAXPAYERS HAVING
TO PAY THE BILL WAS ABOUT THIRTY
MILLION DOLLARS THAT THIRTY
MILLION DOLLARS I THINK LASTED
LONG ENOUGH TO KEEP THE RIG
RUNNING UNTIL THEY CAN START DE
COMMISSIONING AND. THEN WHAT DO
YOU DO WHO PAYS THE BILL THEM HE
CA'T LEAVE IT OUT IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE WATER BECAUSE IT BECOMES
DANGEROUS. SO THE PROBLEM IS TO
TAXPAYERS NOW ARE FINDING THAT
WE'RE GETTING STUCK FOOTING THE
BILL. BECAUSE THE BONDING WAS
INADEQUATE OR IS INADEQUATE TO
ASSURE THAT IF THERE IS A
BANKRUPTCY. THAT THE.
THAT THE INSURANCE THAT THESE
COMPANIES ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
WILL PAY THE BILL AND STUDY YOU
AND ME. AND THAT'S WERE WE ARE
RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM
WE'VE GOT THE RING CON ISLAND
WHICH WAS. OWNED BY ONE OF THE
WORST POLLUTERS IN THE STATE
GRECO OIL COMPANY WHICH IS NOT A
HOUSTON TEXAS. AND THEY WALKED
AWAY AND THEY NOT ONLY HANDED US
A DEBATE TELL US WE COULD GO
STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T
SHINE. CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY
THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING THEIR
BUSINESS FOR THE LAST THIRTY
YEARS BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S
THE TAXPAYER WHO GETS STUCK WITH
THIS AND I KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING
THIS BILL THAT'S I KNOW MY GOODS
FRIEND HERE AND THE SENATOR FROM
LOS ANGELES WOULD LIKE TO THEN.
SAY HEY FOLKS YOU DON'T HAVE TO
TO UNDO ALL YOUR RIG SHE CAN
GIVE US THE MONEY TALKED PARA
ARE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO
DO I KNOW. OF THAT'S WE GONNA
TRY TO DO WHICH I WILL RESIST UP
WHICH ON NOTICE NOW BECAUSE WHEN
PEOPLE MAKE A DEAL. WHEN THESE
COMPANIES GET ENTER A BUSINESS
TRANSACTION AND MAKE MILLIONS
AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF
THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WE EXPECT
WHEN THEY'RE DONE THAT THEY'LL
CLEAN UP THEIR MESS WHEN THEY GO
HOME. AND THAT ISN'T HAPPENING
WHAT A MOTION THAT'S A MOTION A
FOR THOSE AMONG ON NO NO BUT I
WOULD BUT I DID BUT WHAT I WANT
TO MAKE CLEAR IS THIS* THERE
ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHERE THIS BILL IS GOING. AND
THE AND I THINK IN ORDER TO GET
SOME SENSE AND I'M ASSUMING THIS
BILL WILL COME BACK TO US OR
WILL. HAVE FURTHER HEARINGS AS
IT BECOMES MORE CLEAR THAT THIS
SET OF FACTS WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE
DE
WING WITH WITH THESE BILLS.
WILL BE ADDRESSED APPROPRIATELY
SO THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF THE
STATE DON'T GET STUCK PAYING
THESE BILLS AND I KNOW THAT THE
SENATOR WILL CONTINUE DOING THAT
AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH
THE UNDERSTANDING. THAT AS HIS
BILL INVOLVES WILL HAVE ANOTHER
CHANCE TO LOOK AT HOW IT DOES
INVOLVE.
SENATE JACKSON MADE MY CLOTHES.
SO I HAVE BY BUT I'M ASSUMING WE
WILL BE AVAILABLE IN AND WE HAD
A CLOSE UP WE NEED YOU TO BE THE
OTHER BILL THAT'S GONNA COME
MOVE THE BILL OF THAT MOVE BY
SENATOR STERN GOING TO.
SOME APPROPRIATIONS GOING TO
APPROPRIATIONS SAYS IN THE END
OF THE WORLD. CENTERS HERTZBERG
AYE AYE HERTZBERG AYE STONE.
ALLEN.
ALLEN AYE HUESO.
I HUESO AYE JACKSON.
LONGER LEONARD JACKSON.
JACKSON AYE JACKSON AYE MCGUIRE.
BUT WHAT I I MONEY AND. MONEY
AND I STERN.
STERN AYE FIGHT ACT.
VOICE BUT NO.
I TOLD YOU NOT.
HE'S RIGHT THAT MOMENT WAS
CERTAIN THE RUNNING HIGH
KICKING.
BUT EACH VOTE PLEASE HILL PETARD
HERE.
GET.
THE VOTE IS SEVEN ONE SEVEN ZERO
SEVEN ZERO THAT MEASURES OUT.
OKAY LET'S GO BACK THROUGH THE
COUNTER SWEAT EVERYBODY'S HERE
FIRST OF ALL FILE AND BEFORE
WE'RE GONNA PUT ON SPECIAL
CONSENT.
BECAUSE WE PULL THAT NOW WE'RE
PUTTING ON SPECIAL GOOD SET SO
LET'S VOTE OF THE SPECIAL BUT
SAID COUNTER WITH THE MOTION
SENATE MCGUIRE. CLOSE SO MOVES
VICTORY CALL THE ROLL SENATORS
BURDEN.
ACRES FOR AYE STONE.
STONE AYE ALLEN. ALLEN AYE
HUESO.
THIS IS A SPECIAL CONSENT WHICH
IS WHICH WAS CONSENT.
HUESO AYE JACKSON. JACKSON AYE
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE MONNING.
MONNING AYE STERN STERN AYE BY
THE.
BY THAT I DON'T NINE ZERO ABOUT
NINE ZERO THE CONSENT COUNTER
WHICH IS FILE ITEM NINE TEN AND
FOURTEEN.
SECRETARY CALL ROWLANDS THE
CONSENT COUNTER FOR THOSE WHO
ARE MISSING.
SENATOR STONE.
STONE AYE HUESO.
HUESO AYE MONEY. MONEY NINE
HEADS OUT NINE ZERO NINE ZERO
THE MEASURES OUT FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE TWELVE TWENTY TWO. WE
PUT OVER FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO
JACKSON. HAS SB EIGHT THIRTY
FOUR SECRETARY CULTURAL CENTER
SENATOR OF HUESO.
SENATE MCGUIRE. WHERE I IT SO
IT'S OUT SIX TO ABOUT SIXTY TWO
FILE NUMBER THREE? SB NINE WAS A
FIFTY FIVE.
OKAY NIELSEN.
NECRO VOTED SIX TO ZERO SENATOR
STONE.
NIELSEN.
FROM STONE IS AND I.
THAT HE AND THE STONE AYE HUESO
AYE HUESO AYE MONNING. MONNING
AYE HINTS OUTLINED AS ZERO ABOUT
NINE ZERO FIVE THE ITEM NUMBER
FOUR WAS CONSENT FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIVE HAS BEEN. PASSED OUT
FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX JACKSON SP
TWELVE SIXTY. VOTERS FOUR ZERO
CENTERS HUESO. BY HUESO AYE
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE STERN. STERN
AYE BY THE UC MOTIVES ARE A
MOMENT AND.
AS. ARE OF ABOUT SEVEN ZERO FIVE
UNDER SEVEN SENATOR BILL S. B.
THIRTEEN NO ONE.
SENATOR CURRENT VOTERS FIVE ZERO
SENATORS HUESO. HUESO AYE
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE MONNING.
ON A HIGH HINTS ABOUT THEM.
EIGHT ZERO EIGHT TWO ZERO EIGHT
TWO ZERO FILE ITEMS OUT BUT THAT
AND NUMBER EIGHT. S. B. THIRTY
NINE SENATE MCGUIRE.
VOTERS EIGHT ZERO CENTER VOICE
SO. HUESO I DON'T MIND ZERO NINE
ZERO THAT WAS S. B. THIRTY NINE
S. FILE ITEM IN NINE S. B.
THIRTEEN TENSE THIS CONCERT
PARLOR TEN. SP THIRTEEN ELEVEN
IS CONSENT FILE AND RIVER TWELVE
GLAZER S. B. THIRTEEN SIXTEEN
SECRETARY CABALLERO.
AND THIS GIVES CURRENT VOTERS
FIVE TO TWO CENTER VOICE SO.
THIS IS ON THE VERGE ELEVEN
OKAY.
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE IS SO
SIXTY TWO IS SPEED THIRTEEN
SIXTEENS OUT SIX TO TO FOLLOW%
THE RIVER TWELVE SB THIRTEEN
SEVENTY.
THE A DR STERN. VOTERS FORTY TWO
SENATOR ALLEN. ALLEN AYE HUESO
BY QUIZ SO I MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
AYE IT'S ABOUT MONEY. NINE ZERO
NO NO SEVEN TO TWO SEVENTY TWO
FALL UNDER THIRTEEN FOURTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN SENATORS TURN.
COME VOTERS FOR TO SENATOR ALLEN
ALLEN AYE HUESO.
BY HUESO AYE MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
AYE.
THAT'S OUT OF SEVENTY TWO LOWS
OUT SEVENTY TWO FOLLOWED ME
FOURTEEN NOW TO RESEARCH ON
CONSENT MEETING ADJOURNED THANKS
EVERYBODY