FIFTEENTH TWENTY EIGHTEEN WE
HAVE TWELVE BILLS ARE FILED
TODAY. AT THROUGH REQUEST OF THE
AUTHOR FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT S.
B. TWELVE FORTY HAS BEEN PULLED
WE HAVE THREE ITEMS PROPOSED FOR
CONSENT FILE ITEM FOR S. B. TEN
FORTY TWO. FILE ITEM SIX SB
ELEVEN THIRTY SEVEN AND FILE
ITEM SEVEN S. B. ELEVEN SEVENTY.
TO ADD TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM
WOULD BE AT PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
HEALTH. HERE HILL HERE FULLER
DIED.
GALGIANI GLAZER. GLAZER HERE
HERNANDEZ NEWMAN HERE NEWMAN
PARAPAN FAIR AND HERE WILK
PRESIDENT WILL CARRY.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND IF IS
THERE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
MOTION BY SENATOR WILCO PLEASE
CALL THEM THE.
THE ROLE.
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
FOR SIX AND SEVEN.
HILL.
I HILL AYE FULLER.
DODD.
GALGIANI.
GLAZER. GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
NEWMAN AYE NEWMAN AYE PAN. PAN
AYE WILK AYE WILK AYE.
WE HAVE FIVE. VOTES WILL HOLD
THE ROLL OPEN ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR FOR ABSENT MEMBERS WILL
NOW MOVE TO. FILE ITEM ONE SP
NINE FIFTY SENATOR ALLEN
WELCOME.
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR
HONEST I DO APPRECIATE IT THANK
YOU.
.
THE MEMBERS AYE MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS S. B. NINE FIFTY CREATES
THE OFFICE OF BUSINESS
SUSTAINABILITY WITHIN THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF BUSINESS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS
GOBIZ.
AND IT TASKS IT WITH CERTIFYING.
SUSTAINABLE BUSINESSES OPERATING
IN CALIFORNIA.
SO RECENT DECADES.
FIDUCIARY DUTIES OF OFFICERS AND
DIRECTORS IN A TYPICAL
CORPORATION HAVE BECOME NARROWLY
DEFINED.
MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR
BUSINESSES WITH A SOCIAL MISSION
OF PRO SOCIAL MISSION TO MAKE
DECISIONS.
THAT PRIORITIZE ANYTHING OTHER
THEN MAXIMIZATION OF SHAREHOLDER
PROFITS.
AND THEN WE ALL STUDY IN MOSCOW.
INCORPORATIONS LONG.
IN RECENT YEARS THIS HAS GIVEN
RISE TO A MOVEMENT THAT IS
ATTEMPTING TO CARVE OUT SPACE
FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE.
WEDDED ENTIRELY TO THE DOCTRINE
OF SHAREHOLDER PRIVACY. A NEW
AREA OF CORPORATE LAW.
SEVEN YEARS AGO THEN ASSEMBLY
MEMBER JERRY HOFFMAN CARRIED
LEGISLATION AUTHORIZING A
BUSINESS INCORPORATE AS A
CALIFORNIA BENEFIT CORPORATION
THIS WAS AB THREE SIXTY ONE.
THE TYPE A FIRM THAT
SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR SOCIAL
ENTERPRISES TO PURSUE BOTH. FOR
PROFIT AND NONPROFIT
OBJECTIVES THIS IS A. BENEFIT
CORPORATIONS ALLOW OFFICERS
DIRECTORS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
THE TRIPLE BOTTOM LINE OF PROFIT
PEOPLE AND THE PLANET.
WHEN MAKING BUSINESS DECISIONS.
SIMILARLY A CALIFORNIA BUSINESS
WHETHER NOT ITS INCORPORATE
UNDER THE HOFFMAN LAW.
CAN ALSO CERTIFY ITSELF AS A BE
CORPORATION THOUGH. I THROUGH
PRIVATE PROCESS ANALOGOUS TO
BECOMING ELIGIBLE TO USE LEAD OR
FAIR TRADE TRADE LABELS.
I'VE THE CASE LAW SURROUNDING
THESE NASCENT STRUCTURES IS NOT
WELL ESTABLISHED IN THE EXTENT
TO WHICH THAT YOU CAN PRESERVE.
A COMPANY SOCIAL MISSION.
IS UNCLEAR.
WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT OUR STATE
CAN CHOOSE TO DO MORE TO SUPPORT
BUSINESSES THAT PURSUE NOT ONLY
THE CREATION OF ECONOMIC VALUE?
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
CONTRIBUTION TO HEALTHY
ECOSYSTEMS AND STRONG
COMMUNITIES.
BENEFIT CORPORATIONS AND BE
CERTIFICATION ESSENTIALLY MEAN.
THAT A BUSINESS IS COMMITTED TO
SUSTAINABILITY WRIT LARGE
THE BUSINESS THAT HAS RESILIENCY
OVER TIME IS STRUCTURED TO
SURVIVE SHOCKS BECAUSE IT IS
INTIMATELY CONNECTED WITH THE
MARKETPLACE. AS WELL AS HEALTHY
SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
SYSTEMS.
S. B. NINE FIFTY ESTABLISHES
CRITERIA. FOR THE CERTIFICATION
OF A SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS
OPERATING CALIFORNIA THESE
INCLUDE CONSIDERATION
COMMITMENT.
BY THE BUSINESS
TO THE FOLLOWING FAIR AND
TRANSPARENT GOVERNANCE A CULTURE
OF INCLUSION PROMOTION OF HEALTH
AND SAFETY. SUPPORT. THE POOR
FOREIGN DEVELOPMENT OF EMPLOYEES
ENGAGE WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES
ENVIRONMENTALISTS PRACTICES
ENVIRONMENT SUSTAINABLE
PRODUCTS.
THE TRULY SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY
REQUIRES BUSINESSES THAT INVEST
IN THE STEWARDSHIP OF ALL TYPES
OF CAPITAL RESOURCES SOCIAL
FINANCIAL INTELLECTUAL
ENVIRONMENTAL.
S. B. NINE FIFTY IS A SMALL STEP
A CALIFORNIA CAN BE TAKE TO
BEGIN TO IDENTIFY THESE
COMPANIES.
WHO ARE MAKING CALIFORNIA'S
ECONOMY PRODUCTIVE RESILIENT
COMPETITIVE EQUITABLE? AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR RIVALS.
VERY GOOD THANK YOU SENATOR ALAN
A OTHER WITNESSES HERE IN
SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION.
THE KNOWN BRING IT BACK TO THE.
THE COMMITTEE I AYE. QUESTIONS
THAT AROUND EIGHTY IF YOU NOTICE
IN THE ANALYSIS OF THAT HAVE
RAISED THE QUESTION OF.
OF WHETHER GOBIZ IS THE
APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THIS
OFFICE BECAUSE I SEE GOBIZ HAS.
ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN IT OF
AND THIS ALREADY PASSED WITH
NINE PROGRAMS IN THE NUMBER OF
THINGS THE.
IS THERE. YOU THINK THAT WOULD
BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
NO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT VARIOUS
AGENCIES I'M I'M WE YOU KNOW
WHAT. I WILL SAY THIS IS WHAT WE
CAME UP WITH. WITHOUT IT WAS THE
BEST SPOT GIVEN OUR RESEARCH BUT
CERTAINLY IF THE COMMITTEE HAS
OTHER IDEAS OR OTHER THOUGHTS
THAT THAT IS IT ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE VERY OPEN IN THAT
CONVERSATION IF YOU GOTTA.
ANOTHER PLACE YOU THINK IT WOULD
BE MORE APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T THINK I DO BUT TO MAYBE
SOMEONE AS IT MOVES FORWARD THE
CENTER I DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION
I WAS JUST GONNA MOVE THE BILL
MISTER CHAIRMAN.
EDU THANK YOU OF.
AND I THINK THAT'S.
WE'LL SEE AS THE BILL INVOLVES
AND AND MOVES HAVE MAYBE SOME
OTHER THOUGHTS COULD MAYBE HAVE
MORE APPROPRIATE I MEAN I LIKE
THE IDEA CERTAINLY THAT THE
CONCEPT OF THE POLICIES. I DO
SUPPORT OUT THERE IF IF ANY THE
MEMBERS HAVE THOUGHTS IDEAS
ABOUT THAT IF THE COMMITTEE
STAFF WANTS TO COME BACK TO US
WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WE ARE VERY
OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
TOOK COLLEGE SEEN NONE OF THE
MOTION BY SENATOR DODD PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL WOULD LIKE TO
CLOSE AT RESPECT ASSN I'VE I
THINK IN A BOOK YOU.
MISSION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION
COMMITTEE HILL AYE. AYE FULLER.
DODD ALRIGHT DODD AYE GALGIANI.
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER. GLAZER AYE
HERNANDEZ. NEWMAN AYE NEWMAN AYE
PAN AYE PAN AYE WILK.
IF SIX VOTE WILL THE ROLE OPEN
FOR AFTER ADMITTING HE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH SENATOR ALLEN.
MOVIE DOT ITEM NUMBER TWO
SENATOR MORRELL.
THIS SHOULD BE S. B. NINE NINETY
NINE.
BY SENATOR MORRELL ITEM NUMBER
TWO.
POWER.
DOING WELL.
AND HOW ARE YOU SENATOR MORALE.
Q..
LAST.
EIGHT.
MYCNN.
CARRIED WITHOUT LIKE LAPTOPS
ARE.
READING LAST.
SERENA.
PUBLIC SERVICE THAT IS VOTE.
WEARING GUY HELL. WOULD A GUY
THOSE ARE GOOD HERE I CAN READ.
WE'LL GET AFTERNOON.
YEAH THAT'S.
THANK YOU AND NOW HE'S LOST
APPEAR BUT IT'S I DON'T KNOW I
HAVEN'T. AND WOOD GOOD SERVICE
THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH YOU
GUYS.
BOB. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH THIS
WITH OUR OFFICE ON THESE
AMENDMENTS.
AND THE CONSULTANT FOR A VERY
THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND THESE
GLASSES WORK GOOD THANK YOU.
SPI NINE NINE NINE WOULD REPEAL
ARE.
WOULD REPEAL THE LICENSEE
RENOWNED OVER KILL.
LICENSING REQUIREMENTS.
.
FOR THE BAR I THINK FOR THE
BARBER'S CALIFORNIA ACTION
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING SYSTEM IS
INHIBITING. THE ECONOMIC.
.
MOBILITY HAVE LOWER MIDDLE
INCOME.
.
FUTURE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE
FORCED TO NAVIGATE AND EXPENSIVE
AND UNNECESSARY OCCUPATIONAL WHY
THINGS PROCESS.
IN ORDER TO MAKE A LIVING THE
INSTITUTE FOR JUSTICE RECENTLY
REPORTED THAT CALIFORNIA. NOW
REQUIRES A LICENSE FOR SEVENTY
SIX
OF THE ONE HUNDRED TO LOIS
INCOME PROFESSIONS STUDIED.
THE AVERAGE AMOUNT SPENT ON
LICENSE THE REASON CALIFORNIA'S
FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS
WITH AN AVERAGE EDUCATIONAL
REQUIREMENT OF EIGHT HUNDRED AND
TWENTY SEVEN DAYS AND TWO
EXAMINATIONS.
IN ORDER TO PROFESSIONALLY
ARRANGED DRESS CURLED WAVED CLAN
SHAMPOO WERE BEAUTIFY HERE.
CALIFORNIA REQUIRES INDIVIDUALS
TO HAVE OVER FIFTEEN HUNDRED
HOURS OF TRAINING PASS A WRITTEN
AND PRACTICAL EXAMINATION AND
PAY UP TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE.
DOLLARS IN FEES THESE
OCCUPATIONS ARE LICENSE WITH NO
REPORTEDLY.
DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS IN OTHER
STATES CHECK CALIFORNIA
CONTINUES TO RESTRICT ENTRY INTO
THESE ARE ENTRY LEVEL FIELDS
WITH THE CLAIM THAT IS. IN THE
INTERESTS OF. PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY IN REALITY THESE LICENSE
REQUIREMENTS ARE UNNECESSARY
EXPENSIVE IN REGULATORY BURDENS.
BY REPEAING THESE REQUIREMENTS
SP NINE NINE NINE WOULD INCREASE
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. IN THE
COSMETOLOGY FEEL. CAN REDUCE
RESTRICTIONS ON.
SALON OWNERS BUSINESS OWNERS
AND A SET OF POSITIVE.
OF.
.
OCCUPATIONS IN THE SPIRIT FREE
ENTERPRISE WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT IS MEASURES DAVID WOLFE
REPRESENT OUR ST INSTITUTE. AND
TO NICK BELL A FREE LANCE
HAIRSTYLIST.
WELL FIRST.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS GOOD
AFTERNOON DAVID WOLF HERE TODAY
REPRESENTING OUR STREET
INSTITUTE WHERE THE SPONSOR OF
S. B. NINE NINE NINE.
OUR STUDENTS TO HEAR IS A
NONPROFIT NONPARTISAN THINK TANK
ORGANIZATION THAT SPECIALIZES IN
FREE MARKET INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY
ISSUES.
THIS TOPICS COVER A WIDE RANGE
OF ENSURE END OF INTERESTS
RANGING FROM BAIL REFORM AND
PUBLIC SAFETY. TERRY THOMAS
VEHICLES IN THE GIG ECONOMY AND
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING AS IT
REGARDS VARIOUS APPLICATIONS OF
HAIR STYLING.
UNQUESTIONABLY MEMBERS A SENATOR
MARK MORALE NOTED THERE'S A
BARRIER TO ENTRY REGARDING HER
STYLING APPLICATIONS THAT ARE
LISTED IN S. B. NINE NINE NINE.
RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANNA SHAMPOO
HAIR OR ENGAGE IN OTHER DRIVE
OUR SERVICES THE PLACE ZERO RISK
ON PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU NEED AT
LEAST FIFTEEN HUNDRED HOURS OF
EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE
PAST TWO EXAMS.
CHEAPEST PRIVATE DUTY SCHOOL
OPTION WE FOUND IS A TEN MONTH
PROGRAM THE COST NINETEEN
THOUSAND DOLLARS.
MEANWHILE YOU NEED FAR LESS
TRAINING JUST TO BECOME AN
EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN.
FOR THOSE JUST STARTING OUT OR
MAYBE FOR THOSE WHO JUST WANT A
BASIC JAVA SO LAUNCH IMPAIRING
ARRANGING HER CURLING HAIR.
DETERMINE THIS DOES REPRESENT A
DIFFICULT BARRIER TO ENTRY.
MEMBER SOME OF CONFUSED OUR
STREETS ARE STREET INSTANCE
INVOLVEMENT IN S. B. NINE NINE
NINE IS THE FIRST STEP IN A
PROCESS TO UPEND THE BARBERING
IN COSMETOLOGY CUT SECTION.
TODAY THEY SAID SHAMPOOING
TOMORROW THEY SAY IT'S SOMETHING
ELSE COMMITTED SOME SORT OF
SLIPPERY SLOPES AN ARIA.
MEMBERS I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE AT
THIS TABLE I THINK WHEN I SAY
THAT THIS IS NOT OUR AGENDA.
QUESTION BECOMES WHAT IS THE
POINT OF OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING.
IS THE POINT TO CREATE A FORM OF
PROTECTIONISM THAT ESTABLISHES A
TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE THINK THE GOAL OF
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING IS THE
LATTER TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THIS IS WHY HER CUTTING HAIR
DYEING CHEMICAL PEELS AND A HOST
OF OTHER PROFESSIONS ARE NOT
LISTED IN THIS BILL AS TARGETS
FOR EXEMPTION.
THE HER STYLING APPLICATIONS
THAT ARE LISTED FOR EXEMPTION
AND IT'S BEEN NINE NINE NINE
WERE CAREFULLY CHOSEN BECAUSE
THEY INVOLVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO
RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY. OR THEIR
OBLIGATION FLEXION PURRING AND
CURLING THAT PEOPLE CAN DO WITH
PRODUCTS THAT ARE FOUND IN YOUR
LOCAL WALMART.
.
AS OUR NEXT WITNESS IS ABOUT TO
TELL YOU THERE'S A THRIVING
MARKET FOR DRIVE OUR BLOWOUT
TYPE SERVICES THAT DON'T INVOLVE
THE DYING IN THE CUTTING OF
HAIR.
IT'S WORK CAN BE LIFE CHANGING
BOUGHT BECAUSE AGAIN IT REMOVES
A BARRIER TO ENTRY FOR LOW
INCOME EMPLOYMENT FIELD BUT ALSO
BECAUSE A CONSERVE IS A PLAN OF
CONTACT FOR MILLIONS OF SENIORS.
AND DISABLED HER SHOT IN THEIR
RESIDENCES WITHOUT EASY ACCESS
TO THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY
LIVE.
MEMBERS A SOMEONE HEARS
PERSONALLY DISABLE THE SERVICES
ARE WITNESS TO ME BELL PROVIDES
COULD ORDERLY BE A GODSEND FOR
THOSE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES.
AND I'D LIKE HER TO SHARE HER
STORY ABOUT BEING A FREELANCE
HER STYLUS MISSPELL.
I THINK YOU'RE MUCH.
AFTER EVERYONE.
I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU A BIT
ABOUT MY JOURNEY AS THE
HAIRSTYLIST.
I KNEW I WANT TO BE HER SILENCE
WHEN I WAS ABOUT NINETEEN YEARS
OLD.
ACTUALLY IT HAVE BEEN MORE
ABOUT WHEN I WAS SIXTEEN I FOUND
OUT ABOUT.
.
AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES AND THE
FILTH I HAVE CELEBRITY HAIR
STYLING ND I WANT TO GO INTO
THAT.
I WAS NEVER INTERESTED AND
MALES ARE. WAXING OR ANY OF
THOSE HAVE THIS JUST HAVE TIME.
I DID MY RESEARCH I FOUND OUT I
HAD TO GO TO COSMETOLOGY SCHOOL.
I HAD TO PAY. NEARLY TEN
THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR COSMETOLOGY
SCHOOL.
IN COSMETOLOGY SCHOOL HAD DISK
AND SIXTEEN HUNDRED HOURS
LEARNING THINGS LIKE HEALTHCARE
SERVICES. I HAD TO SPEND TIME
LEARNING WAXING FACIALS.
ALL THAT'S LEFT JUST SPECIALIZE
IN HAIR STYLING. AND.
.
I UNFORTUNATELY WENT INTO THAT
BECAUSE OF THAT AND I HAD TO
WORK IN PLACES THAT I DIDN'T
WANT TO. SO THAT I COULD PAY OFF
THAT DEBT AND THEN FINALLY WANT
TO PAY OFF THAT DEBT IS ABLE TO
DO WHAT I WANT TO SPECIALIZE IN
WHICH WAS JUST HAIR STYLING
ONLY.
.
SO I ONLY UTILIZED ABOUT THIRTY
PERCENT OF WHAT I LEARNED AT
SCHOOL.
.
SPELL OUT OF TIME GATEWAYS THAT
DAD AND THEN AFTERWARDS I.
NOW PRESENTLY NOW THAT I'M NO
LONGER THAT NOW IT STAFF. I ONLY
SPEND ABOUT.
MAYBE HAS TWENTY PERCENT OF THE
TIME DOING THE THINGS THAT I DID
ACTUALLY LEARN IN SCHOOL AS FAR
AS LIKE CHEMICAL SERVICES I DO
MAINLY STYLING SERVICES AND
THAT'S BY EIGHTY PERCENT OF MY
BUSINESS NOW.
THOUGH I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN NICE IF I HAD A BETTER
WAY TO GO ABOUT. ACHIEVING WHAT
I WANTED TO ACHIEVE WHICH
VERSION HAIRSTYLING.
VERY GOOD THANK YOU AND THANK
YOU FOR SHARING THAT TODAY WITH.
PORTANTINO. APPRECIATED SIXTEEN
YOU HAD A A GOAL AND
AND WANTED TO FULFILL THAT IT'S
NICE THAT THEY EVENTUALLY WERE
ABLE TO BUT.
IT'S GOOD ADMITTED A LITTLE
EASIER FOR YOU DEFINITELY. THANK
YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR TEARS US
ADVANCE ON BEHALF OF TECHNO IN
SUPPORT EARLY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION.
IT WAS LIKE THIS.
MARTY SENATORS FRED JONES ON
BEHALF OF THE PROFESSIONAL
BEAUTY FEDERATION CALIFORNIA
FIRST OF ALL.
.
I SENT OUR OPPOSE LETTER OVER A
WEEK AGO TUESDAY FACTS THAT YOU
USE LAST SESSION.
SO I DID NOT REALIZE YOU'RE
COMMITTED AND RECEIVE OUR
OPPOSITION UNTIL THURSDAY BUT I
HAVE MET WITH THE SPONSOR AND
WITH THE AUTHORS OFFICE LAST
WEEK SO. I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO
SURPRISED THE AUTHOR THAT WE'RE
HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
WE DO SEE THIS BILL AS A
BACKDOOR ATTEMPT TO DEREGULATE
OUR INDUSTRY. IT BEGAN AS A
SHAMPOOING EXEMPTION
IT'S ALREADY BEEN EXPANDED
BEFORE ITS FIRST POLICY
COMMITTEE TO DEALING WITH ALL
HAIR STYLING THAT DOESN'T
INCLUDE SCISSORS CHEMICALS.
SO THE MOMENTUM INERTIA AND
DIRECTION OF THIS BILL IS
ALREADY MOVING TOWARD.
DEREGULATING ANDY LICENSING
SERVICES A IN OUR INDUSTRY.
THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM MY AND I
REPRESENT.
ALL SECTORS OF OUR INDUSTRY AND
WE TRIED TO TAKE ISSUES ON.
GENERAL CONSENSUS ACROSS ALL
SECTORS
AM ONE OF THOSE SECTORS ARE THE
SALONS.
AND OF COURSE OUR SALON OWNERS
WOULD LOVE TO SEE. THE
REGULATION.
BUT.
THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION THAT
THEY'RE DOING WITH NOW THEY CAN
ONLY HIGHER LICENSEES TO DO
BEAUTY SERVICES FOR PECUNIARY
INTEREST.
THEY A ARE THE LEGITIMATE LA
FOLLOWERS.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THIS BODY
EXEMPTS BEAUTY SERVICES LIKE IT
DID TEN YEARS AGO FOR HAIR
BRAIDING AND THEN SIX YEARS AGO
FOR HER THREADING.
WHOLE COTTAGE INDUSTRIES ANSALON
STANDALONE SALONS THAT PURPORT
TO ONLY DO THOSE EXEMPTIONS.
ARE CREATED AND IF YOU GO INTO
THOSE.
FOR READING SALONS
YOU'LL SEE SHEARS AND SCISSORS
YOU GO INTO.
THE HAIR BRAIDING SALONS YOU'LL
SEE CHEMICALS.
AND SO HOW IS OUR EIGHTEEN STATE
BOARD INSPECTORS
STATE BOARD OF ARMING HOSTILITY.
WHO LICENSE FOUR HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THREE THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS
AND FORTY FIVE THOUSAND SALONS?
SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW.
NEW COTTAGE INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE
NO LICENSE AT ALL.
WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A TOUGH TIME
KEEPING LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS
FROM GOING BEYOND THEIR OWN
SCOPE OF PRACTICE
COOLEY IN EMAIL SALON AND YOU
WILL SEE CHANCES ARE. WAXING
SERVICES
THAT'S BEYOND THE NEW HEALTH
CARE SERVICE SCOPE OF PRACTICE
AND SO.
THIS WILL JUST OPEN UP NEW
AVENUES
FOR.
ILLEGAL ACTIVITY UNLICENSED
ACTIVITY.
BUT THE SPONSORS SAID IN THE
LAST APRIL ON A SENATOR GALGIANI
BILL. WHICH WAS GOING AFTER THE
UNDERGROUND ECONOMY.
THAT THAT WAS SOVIET LIKE
TACTICS.
SO IF THE SPONSORS THINK THAT
TRYING TO GO AFTER ILLEGITIMATE
BUSINESSES.
WHO WERE OPERATING OUTSIDE THEIR
LOS A LICENSE SCOPE OF PRACTICE
IS SOVIET LIKE TACTICS?
THEN CLEARLY THEY DON'T SUPPORT
LIKE CENTER AT ALL.
I'M WILLING TO HAVE THAT
DISCUSSION.
THIS BILL ISN'T AN HONEST FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT
LICENSE.
I CAN TELL YOUR SALON OWNERS ARE
THERE. WILL GO WITHOUT FACE.
WILL GO WITHOUT REGULATION.
THIS IS COMMITTEE.
THANK BAKER MISTER JONES OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS OUT OF WENDY CHECKUPS
AND I AM THE FOUNDER OF
CALIFORNIA SENATE CLIENTS.
AND ON I FEEL THAT SENATE BILL
NUMBER NINE NINE NINE IS THE
RESPONSIBLE TO REAP PROPOSAL
ESPECIALLY WITH PRINT THE
PROSPECT OF EXPANDING OUT TO
OTHER LICENSES IN THE BILL'S
LANGUAGE.
WE ALSO FIND ILL INFORMED IN THE
NEWSLETTER AND THE SIX
MONTH OF MARCH.
THAT YOU STATED THAT YOU NEEDED
A LICENSE FOR MAKEUP ARTISTS AS
WELL TO PERFORM SERVICES IN
CALIFORNIA AND YOU DO NOT.
UNLESS YOU'RE IN A LICENSED
ESTABLISHMENT.
I'M FREELANCE HAIRSTYLISTS ALSO
WOULD NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED
WITH AND CONNECTED TO A BRICK
AND MORTAR SALON.
SO UNLESS THEY ARE INVOLVED AND
THE SITUATION AND.
OF WORKING IN HOLLYWOOD.
WHERE THEY HAVE AN EXEMPTION FOR
THAT THERE ARE STILL MANY PEOPLE
IN THE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW THAT
ARE OPERATING OUT OF COMPLIANCE
WITH THE LAW THAT IS THAT
FORWARD AND THE REGULATIONS THAT
ARE SUPPORTED BY BARBARA COSMO?
IT'S REALLY UPSETTING.
I'M UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY A
LICENSED ESTHETICIAN OR A
COSMETOLOGIST IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
LAWMAKERS REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW
DANGEROUS IT IS.
DEREGULATING BARBERS
COSMETOLOGIST ELECTORAL JUST NOW
TEXAN ASK ADDITIONS.
AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY
DANGEROUS PROSPECT FOR
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS.
WE ALSO DISCUSS THE SITUATION
LAST YEAR WHEN WE OPPOSED US
SENATE BILL NUMBER TWO NINETY
SIX AND THE WAXING ANA.
ALLOWANCE FOR THE ANNUAL TAX
INSTEAD OF CALIFORNIA.
AND IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
AYE WE ARE FIFTY THREE THOUSAND
AS OF JANUARY FIFTY THREE
THOUSAND LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS
WITH FEWER THAN SIXTEEN
INSPECTORS TO DEAL WITH THE
LEGAL AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. IT
IS RAMPANT.
SPREADING MERCED HEPATITIS AND
OTHER BLOOD BORNE IN BODY FLUID
PATHOGENS TOXIC PROCESSING
CHEMICALS AND MARK.
WE DEAL WITH THESE THINGS AS
LICENSEES EVERYDAY IN OUR
TRADES.
SURE SHAMPOOING IT SOMEONE'S
HAIR IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL DO
AT HOME WE ALSO STYLE AND WAVING
USE CURLING IRONS AND HAIR SPRAY
AND ALL THOSE THINGS TOO. BUT
IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
PROSPECT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE
SALON ENVIRONMENT.
NOT ONLY IS THERE NOT CONSTRUCT
INJURY TO CONSIDER BUT REMOVAL
OF PROCESSING CHEMICALS SAFELY
AND RESPONSIBLY JUST ISN'T EASY
IS RINSE AND REPEAT.
HER NINE NINE NINE THE BILL
WOULD REMOVE THIS PRACTICE OF
CLEANSING HER BEAUTIFYING THE
HAIR OF ANY PERSON OR THE
PRACTICE OF COSMETOLOGY. AND
WOOD OUT THE PRACTICES OF
ARRANGING BEAUTIFYING CLEANSING
CURLING DRESSING SHAMPOOING OR
WAVING THEIR THE HAIR TO ANY
PERSON. IS IT IN THE INTENTION
OF THE AUTHOR TO ALLOW ANYONE
ANYWHERE TO PROVIDE CARE STYLING
SERVICES FOR COMPENSATION FREE
OF. REGULATION RESPONSIBILITY.
THE AUTHOR ALSO NOTES THAT THE
SERVICE TO. BE DEREGULATED WOULD
NOT USE ALLY. LIES INSTRUMENTS
OR CHEMICALS FROM THE DEFINITION
IT IS NOT PRACTICAL DO ASSUME
THAT JOB ESPONSIBILITIES AN
UNREGULATED SHAMPOO OR. WOULD
NOT INCLUDE CLEANSING OF THE
CLIENT'S HAIR WITH LEECHES DIES
PERM SOLUTION AND MORE ARE.
AND WHO IS GONNA SAY WHETHER
THOSE PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO PROCESS
AND ON PROCESS HER. AS WELL.
AND FROM THERE WITH THE
LIABILITY OF DAMAGE OR INJURY
FALL ON THE BUSINESS OWNER. THAT
EMPLOYED AN UNLICENSED OR
MINIMALLY TRAINED INDIVIDUAL.
IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY IS IT
RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO USE
CHEMICAL PEEL SOLUTION ON
SOMEBODY THAT WITH LITTLE TO NO
EDUCATION HOW ABOUT A SCALPEL TO
REMOVE THE UPPERMOST LAYERS OF
SKIN.
USING SURGICAL SUPERGLUE AND
TWEEZERS AND LASH EXTENSIONS FOR
TO OUR PROCEDURE WAXING TO
REMOVE BODY HAIR WITH THEM
EQUIPMENT THAT DOESN'T TYPICALLY
HAVE TEMPERATURE REGULATION.
THESE ARE ALL DAILY INJURIES
THAT WE EXPERIENCE WITH OUR
CLIENTS AND CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
IN ALL OF OUR BARBER SHOPS
BEAUTY SALONS AND SPAS.
WE NEED MORE INSPECTORS.
WE NEED MORE CONTINUING
EDUCATION WE NEED
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT ADVANCE
CERTIFICATIONS NOT DEREGULATION
A BETTER USE OF RESOURCES FOR
THIS COMMITTEE WOULD TO BE BEGIN
TO GIVE THAT PART OF OUR BRING
IN COSMETOLOGY BETTER RESOURCES
THAT THEY NEED TO HELP.
IN IN REGULATED IN THE STATE.
AND SO I THINK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION BUT IT'S SIDE
DANGEROUS BILL I THINK FOR
CONSUMERS IN CALIFORNIA
DEFINITELY.
THANK YOU MISTER JACOBS OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NO ONE RESPECTIVELY
COMMITTEE.
FOR.
FEDERATION OR QUESTIONS ON.
SENATOR PENN.
IF YOU.
.
SO I JUST WANT CLARIFY.
.
MAYBE SOME OF THE OPPOSITION CAN
HELP ME WITH THIS TOO SO.
.
THE PERSON WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
LICENSING ARE INDIVIDUALS
CORRECT.
LICENSING.
PLEASE.
JOHN YEAH.
SO WE DON'T LICENSE.
REALIZES ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO WE DECIDED OKAY.
SO THE QUESTION IS IS THAT IF
WE'RE TAKING.
WELL IT SHAMPOOING AND OTHER
THINGS THAT THE HAIR OUT IN THIS
BILL.
ARE WE SAYING THAT.
THE PEOPLE OF YOU ARE DOING
I'M GOING IN.
NINE CUTTING THEIR HAIR.
YOU CAN DO IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT
TO THERE'S NO REGULATION AND ALL
YOU HAVE TO BE IN A LICENSED
ESTABLISHMENT WHEN YOU DO THIS
YEAR AT LEAST ANDERSON.
PROVISION THAT'S GOING TO BE
SURE YOU'RE NOT EXCEEDING YOUR
SCOPE I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY
WHAT THE BILL SAYING ORDER
SAYING THAT THIS IS COMPLETELY.
SHAMPOOING AND ALLAH IS
COMPLETELY TOTALLY UNREGULATED I
MEAN NO ONE'S GONNA BE
OVERSEEING ANYTHING AT AND AND
SOMEONE'S GONNA BE ACTUALLY
MARKETING THEIR SERVICES FOR
THAT I MEAN IT'S A LITTLE
DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE DOING IT
FOR A FAMILY MEMBER.
MY MIND SELF.
SO SOMEONE'S ACTUALLY MARKETING
THEMSELVES AS I'M GONNA SHAMPOO
AND WAVED HER HAIR.
IS IT SAID YOU DEAL DO THAT
ANYWHERE YOU WANT.
MR MUSICAL. YEAH AND THROUGH THE
CHAIR.
DUCT FAN THANKS FOR THE
QUESTION.
.
YOU KNOW HOW WE ENVISION THIS IS
OBVIOUSLY SHAMPOO AND SHAMPOOING
IN AS OTHER HAIR STYLING
APPLICATIONS WOULD BE EXEMPTED.
HOWEVER I WOULD ARGUE AYE
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE TOO MANY
PEOPLE THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO
GO OUT AND OPEN UP THEIR OWN
ESTABLISHMENT SOLELY FOR THE
PURPOSE OF SHAMPOOING.
A LOT AND A LOT OF INSTANCES
THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO
BE I'M IN A LICENSED BARBER IN
COSMETOLOGY ESTABLISHMENT.
UNDER PEOPLE THAT HAVE A BARBER
IN COSMETOLOGY LICENSE AND AGAIN
IT GETS BACK TO THE POINT OF THE
BILL WHICH IS WE'RE DEALING WITH
WHAT LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS WHO
LIKENESS BALLARD JUST TRYING TO
MAKE A LIVING. AND TO THE EXTENT
THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT
UNDER THIS SPELL ANYLICENSE
PROGRAM COSMETOLOGY
ESTABLISHMENT WHERE YOU DON'T
NEED FIFTEEN HUNDRED HOURS OF
EDUCATION AND TAKE TWO EXAMS I
THINK THE BILL MAKES SOME SENSE.
THROUGH THE CHAIR IF YOU DON'T.
THE PROMISE THEY WON'T STOP IT
SHAMPOOING. MUCH LIKE THE HAIR
BRAIDING SALONS NOW DON'T STOP
IT HAIR BRAIDED AND BY THE WAY.
IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITY THERE'S A PROBLEM.
SCIENTIFIC TERMS CULT TRACTION
ALOPECIA WHERE LASER LOSING
THEIR HAIR PREMATURELY DUE TO.
TOO MUCH FRICTION AND PULLING OF
HAIR BRAIDING BECAUSE HE'S HERE
BREEDERS HAVE NO. TRAINING
BEFORE GOING IN SO YES THIS IS
DEREGULATING.
A WHOLE AREA OF OUR CURRENT
LICENSE SCOPE OF PRACTICE THAT
CAN BE DONE ANYWHERE ANYTIME FOR
PECUNIARY INTEREST.
SO I MEAN BASED ON
EVEN YOUR TESTIMONY TO ME I'D BE
MORE COMFORTABLE IF.
YOU KNOW
THE PERSON HAD TO OPERATE.
THE CONTEXT OF A LICENSED
FACILITIES AND AND UNDER
SUPERVISION OF LICENSED PEOPLE.
BECAUSE OF WHILE YOU MAY SAY I
MEAN OF I'M HEARING IS WE DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH INSPECTORS OUT THERE
TOO SO. SOMEONE COULD OPEN UP A
SHOP WHERE THEY SAY THEY'RE ONLY
DOING ONE THING.
BUT IF THERE'S NO SUPERVISING
THEM HOW DO I KNOW THEY'RE NOT
NOW DOING LICENSE TYPE THINGS I
MEAN I GUESS WE LET ZACK
EMPLOYEE HIM THAT CAN BE IN ANY
INDUSTRY YOU CAN OPEN UP A REAL
ESTATE OFFICE AND I HAVE A
LICENSE ONLINE HAS GONE A LITTLE
BIT. OVERBOARD ON IT RIGHT. NOW
SO THIS IS BUT THE CHALLENGES
AND IT MAY JUST FINISHES IS THAT
SOMEONE WILL ADVERTISE RIGHT SO
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE IT TIES
IN THE REAL ESTATE AGENT I HAVE
REAL ESTATE LICENSE.
SO ON REPORT MAYES SOMEONE COULD
ADVERTISE AND I'M JUST DOING
SHAMPOOING WAVING.
AND SO I MEAN I I DIDN'T PUT IN
FACT EVEN THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE
ME IS MORE LIKE I I I WOULD BE
MORE COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT.
WELDING I DO THIS YOU'RE DOING
IN THE CONTEXT WITHIN SO WE
DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FULL PLACES
FIRST PERSONS JUST DOING
SHAMPOOING BUT AT LEAST WITHIN
THE LICENSE FACILITIES THAT.
SOMEBODY COULD WOULD ACTUALLY BE
RESPONSIBLE BEING SURE DATA
EXCEED.
AND MAYBE ALSO WORKING WITH A
LICENSED PERSON SO THAT AGAIN
THAT PERSON KNOWSTHAT. YOU'RE
NOT EXCEEDING AND YOU CAN
ACTUALLY HELP I KEEP THE
DANGEROUS PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY DON'T KNOW. SO YOU HAVE
SOMEONE WHO STARTS OFFICE SAYING
WELL I DON'T NEED A LICENSE TO
DO THIS. AND WILL SOMETIMES
CUSTER DEMAND THAT MEETS ARE
PUSHING THEM TOWARD THE EDGES
RIGHT NAME ACTUALLY START MOVING
IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY DON'T
KNOW WELL JUST DOING THAT YOU
KNOW MAYBE OKAY AND PROBABLY IS
IT TOO DANGEROUS BUT YOU DON'T
KNOW IT'S NOT THE IT'S
DANGEROUS.
CETERA SO EVEN YOUR EXAMPLE
THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
IS WITHIN.
I GET YOU SOMETHING IS I FEEL
MORE COMFORTABLE ACTUALLY SAID
OKAY FINE WE CAN HAVE SOME DO
SHAMPOOING BUT PASSED TO BE WITH
AND A LICENSE
UTILITY WITH WORKING WITH A
LICENSED PERSON.
BUT THEY THEMSELVES ARE THE
LICENSE TO DO THAT.
I MEAN IT'S RICHARD JUST CLARIFY
ONE POINT.
WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AFFECT MY
ORGANIZATION SPONSORED
LEGISLATION CALLED EXTERNSHIP
SO FOR BONAFIDE STUDENTS WHO ARE
ENROLLED AFTER SIXTY PERCENT OF
THEIR EDUCATION THEY CAN GO TO
WORK IN A SALON.
UNFORTUNATE TO GET THE BILL
PASSED WE HAD TO RESTRICT THEM
FROM NOT BEING HELPED TO GET
PAID.
WE IS ORGANIZATION SUPPORT PAIN
THOSE EXPERIENCE AS LONG AS ARE
BONAFIDE STUDENTS WORKING UNDER
THE DIRECTION OF THE LICENSEE IN
A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT. SO WE
WANT TO HELP PEOPLE.
BURN WHILE THEY LEARN. BUT WE
WANT TO PRESERVE LIFE.
SO I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW VERY
MUCH ABOUT THIS.
AREA BUT.
.
IF IF A PERSON IS IN A NURSING
HOME FOR EXAMPLE.
I MEAN.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL.
YOU KNOW THEY'LL NEED THEIR
HAIRLIKE WASHED AND.
AB.
AND NOW STYLE WOULD BE RIDE BUT
CUT OR STYLE OR SOMETHING
CURLED.
AND ALSO IN A FUNERAL HOME.
THOSE ARE PLACES THAT IT'S HARD
TO GET.
LICENSE BEAUTICIANS TO BE ABLE
TO GO AND SO PEOPLE IN. MIKE
MEDIA HAPPEN TO KNOW I HAVE
ALREADY A LOT OF THEM ARE DOING
IT WITHOUT A LICENSE BUT
THEY'RE.
NOW SUBJECT TO. CONVICTION FOR
BEING.
NICE I GUESS IS THE WORD.
.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING.
HOW THAT PIECE FITS IN I MEAN
I'VE I APPRECIATE THAT IT?
IN MY AND MY MY AREAS PRE LOW
INCOME AND I MEAN.
IT OUT MY WHOLE LIFE MY MOTHER
GAVE ME MY PERMITS AND. THAT'S
JUST HOW WE ALL DID IT WITH ALL
THE COUSINS DATA BUT.
BUT RECENTLY WE'VE SEEN A IN
THESE IN NURSING HOMES
ESPECIALLY THE SIX BAD ONES.
THEY JUST THEY CAN'T YOU KNOW
HOW THEY GIVE US SOME.
THE BEAUTICIAN BECOME SO YOU
WAIT IN MY MIND THAT GIVES SOME
ADDITIONAL CHOICES ARE OPTIONS
BUT THOSE TWO INDUSTRIES AND
MAYBE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM I
DON'T KNOW YOU.
LET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
YOU THE CHAIR AGAIN MISTER
CHAIRMAN OF COURSE HA CENTER
FULLY THANK YOU FOR THOSE
COMMENTS AND YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
I DO YOU THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE
BECAUSE. I JUST BRING UP A
COUPLE POINTS I MEAN IN THIS
BILL DOESN'T EXPRESSLY TYPE
SHOWING YOU BROUGHT UP BY. YOU
KNOW THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
ACTUALLY NOTES THIS BIT YOU KNOW
TO DO. ARM YOU KNOW PROM TYPE
HAIR STYLING YOU'RE GOING TO A
NURSING HOME AND DO THAT BECAUSE
IT'S NOT A LICENSE TO
ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS
TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL RIGHT NOW.
AND I DO THINK THAT IS A
SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT YOU KNOW
DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND
THE COME BACK TO SHAMPOOING.
OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A MARKET
MEMBERS FOR SHAMPOOING OUT THERE
ON THE.
BARBERING COSMETOLOGY LICENSING
WEBSITE THE QUESTION OF CAN I
SHAMPOO IS NUMBER EIGHT IN THE
FOR CALL ASK QUESTIONS ON THAT
WEBSITE SO CLEARLY THIS IS
SOMETHING. THE COMMISSION GETS A
LOT CLEARLY HAS MISSED BALLOT
TESTIFIED TO THERE IS A MARKET
THERE FOR THE SERVICES AND. YOU
KNOW LET ME JUST COME BACK TO
YOU KNOW SOMETHING MISTER JONES
BROUGHT UP IN SOMETHING MISTER
PAN REFERENCE.
.
YOU KNOW ABOUT YOU KNOW THIS
BEING A SLIPPERY SLOPE BECAUSE A
YOU KNOW HAIR BRAIDING HER
DRIVING AND NOW THEY'RE TAKING
ON ALL THESE OTHER THINGS IN
THIS AND THAT. MEMBERS THAT IS
NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS BILL.
THE SUBJECT OF THIS BILL IS.
REMOVING BARRIERS TO ENTRY TO
CREATE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES
FOR INDIVIDUALS TO WORK.
YOU NO HAIR BRAIDING HER
THREADING ESTABLISHMENTS TAKING
ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES
AS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE IT'S NOT
THE SUBJECT OF THIS BILL AND AS
I STATED IN MY TESTIMONY WE
DON'T WANT TO BROADEN IT ANY
FARTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE
IT'S JUST IT'S NOT TRUE. AND YOU
KNOW DOCTOR PAN WE WOULD BE
WILLING TO EXPLORE YOU KNOW
MAYBE JUST SHAMPOOING IN A
LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT I'M.
NOT GONNA OBVIOUSLY THE THAT IN
THIS COMMITTEE BUT I MEAN THAT'S
SOMETHING.
ALEX ITS UP TO THE ACTS THE
AUTHOR DOCTOR PAN BUT.
YEAH.
THE ARM REFERENCE MADE TO THE
GENTLEMAN.
TO THE RIGHT OF ME.
.
THAT THIS IS GONNA THE DOORS TO
OTHER THINGS WILL YOU.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE COME THROUGH
THIS COMMITTEE SO I DON'T THINK
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND.
AND THIS ISN'T BRAIN SURGERY
THIS IS JUST WASHING PEOPLE'S
HAIR AND SELL AGAIN YOU KNOW
THESE ARGUMENTS ABOUT FORSMAN
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST
STRICTLY.
WERE TRYING TO SHOW BOMB.
THAT.
SOME THESE ENTRY LEVEL BUSINESS
SAYS IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESS AND
MAKE AN EASY I MEAN FIFTEEN
HUNDRED HOURS PAIN ALL THE
SPECIES. THAT IS INCLUDE THE THE
CLASSROOM FEE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT
I'M TRYING TO STICK TO IS IS
AGAIN TO MAKE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO
CREATE JOBS. AND ARE IT YOU
WOULD THINK THIS IS A COMMON
SENSE THING BECAUSE THERE IS NO
CHEMICALS I'M NOT READING
ANYTHING IN THE PAPER KNOWN
ANYBODY WHOSE.
BE UNHARMED BY SHAMPOO IN HER
HAIR PROBABLY EVERYBODY HERE
SHAMPOOS THEIR HAIR AND PERHAPS
THEY'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SO.
ON THE GUINNESS HIS ACCESS BOMB
FOR OUR. ENTREPRENEURS.
THANK YOU IRREGULAR EMERALD TO
JUDGE OF A FINAL COMMENTED THAT
YOU THINK IT BUT I JUST ANSWER
SENATOR FELIZ QUESTION IN THE
BMP CODE SECTION FOR HEALTH
REASONS INFIRM SHUT INS.
YOU DO NOT NEED A LICENSE.
TO GO INTO THOSE HOMES.
REST HOMES WHERE EVER AND YOU
CAN DO IT FOR MONEY SO IT IS
COMPLETELY EXEMPTED FOR THOSE
HEALTH.
THANK YOU ADEQUATELY RESPOND TO
SENATOR FULLER AS WELL THAT
THERE ARE MOBILE UNIT REQUIRED
THAT ARE ALLOWED FROM THE.
IN THE CODE BUT IT ALSO HAS SOME
QUITE ONEROUS REQUIREMENTS ON
THAT MOBILE UNIT HAS TO BE
TWENTY FOUR FEET IN LENGTH.
LICENSES AND ESTABLISHMENT WITH
PRACTICALLY NO NEEDS A LOT OF
THINGS TO IT'S IT'S NOT QUITE AS
EASY AS. IS JUST GOING TO THE
LOCATION AND DO IT I I FRANKLY.
pTHIS BILL FORWARD I LOOK AT IT
THIS IS A AN OPPORTUNITY I I
THOUGHT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO.
PROVIDE SOME BENEFIT FOR SOME OF
THOSE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES THAT
ARE. THAT DO REQUIRE A MINIMAL
AMOUNT OF SKILL SETS IN AND
TRAINING.
AND CERTAINLY THE.
THE NUMBER OF HOURS NECESSARY
FOR A LICENSE IS.
IT IS DIFFICULT AND AN
EXPENSIVE AND IN THE TIME
INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL. ERODED
DOCTOR PENA RAISED UP A COUPLE
WITH GOOD POINTS.
I I GUESS AS I LOOK AT IT.
.
IN.
ANYWHERE WHICH RELATE THINGS TO
ARE PERSONAL EXPERIENCES MY
FATHER WHEN HE STARTED THE
BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE.
MANY YEARS AGO AND IT WAS JUST
OF SWIMMING POOL CLEANING THIS
AND.
HE STARTED DOING THAT.
AFTER HE RETIRED AND WAS VERY
SUCCESSFUL AND THEN STARTED
DOING OTHER THINGS THAT REQUIRED
A CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE BUT WE
KNEW ALL ALONG. THE WAY THAT IF
WE DO THIS THAT WOULD REQUIRE A
LICENSE IF WE DID THIS IT DIDN'T
SHOW AYE AYE.
I IN THEN WE PROCEEDED TO GET
THE LICENSE IS NECESSARY TO DO
THE WORK THAT WAS REQUIRED BUT
I.
I THINK. YOU KNOW THE ASSUMPTION
THAT IT WOULD NOT.
OCCUR TO SOMEONE THAT YOU NEED A
LICENSE ESPECIALLY IF YOUWERE
AROUND THE FIELD AROUND THE
PROFESSION KNOWING THE
PROFESSION YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT
WAS NECESSARY IN THAT IS SIMILAR
TO A. A I GUESS A PHYSICIAN OR
SOME OF THE OTHER PROFESSIONS
THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN IF SOMEONE.
WERE TO WORK OUTSIDE OF THEIR
SCOPE.
THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THEY WERE
DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY
UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE THAT THEY
HAVE NOW EVEN THOUGH THIS
THERE'S NO SCOPE INVOLVED IN
THIS OTHER THAN TO SHAMPOOING
BUT. I THINK THE THE.
THE BENEFIT THAT COULD COME
FROM THIS AND WORKING WITH
CENTER MORALE I THOUGHT AS AN
OPPORTUNITY. AND THAT'S WHY
THEY'RE A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS
LISTED HERE IS TO TO PROVIDE
THE.
THE POTENTIAL FOR THOSE.
TO TO MAKE A LIVING AND.
AND PURSUE IT WITHOUT HAVING
THE THE STRUGGLE IT COULD BE.
SO THAT WAS THAT MY BUT MY POINT
AND THAT'S WHY I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY.
BUT SENATOR NO YET SORRY MR
STRUCTURE PROGRAMS SOONER NICER
TO.
RIGHT THIS SEEMS HERE SO I I
WANT TO JUST TOUCH ON.
A POINT TO CENTER PAN MADE THAT
I THINK MISTER JONES AND MISTER
JACOBS AGREED UPON AND SO. IF WE
WERE DISCUSSION.
THE CREATION OF A SUB CATEGORY
WITHIN THE INDUSTRY THAT ALLOWED
FOR.
AND SHE SHAMPOO IS TO WORK
WITHIN LICENCES TELLS YOU THAT
SEEMS TO ME TO BE PRETTY
STRAIGHTFORWARD. BAD BUT I DO
TAKE SERIOUSLY THE OBSERVATION.
BY MY COLLEAGUE AND BY OTHERS
THAT ONCE YOU EXIT YOU WANT TO
CREATE A NEW CATEGORY AT THAT IS
OUTSIDE OF LICENSED
ESTABLISHMENTS.
IT SEEM ESPECIALLY SOMETHING
THAT SEEMS AS ACCESSIBLE. AS.
BEAUTY CARE ABOUT WHERE MOST THE
PRODUCTS ARE AVAILABLE
COMMERCIALLY YOU KNOW AT A
MINIMUM ONLINE BASED ON CLOSER.
BUT IT DOES SEEM VERY LIKELY
THAT THOSE WHO MIGHT START OUT
SIMPLE YOU KNOW DOING
EXCLUSIVELY SHAMPOOING. ARE ARE
GOING TO. FIND IT HARD TO RESIST
THE TEMPTATION TO EXPAND THEIR
PORTFOLIO SERVICES ARE AND I
THINK IT WAS MS JACOBS WHO WHO
POINT OUT IT TO THE EXTENT THAT
WE HAVE. OVER FIFTY THOUSAND I
THINK WAS FIFTY THREE THOUSAND
LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS AND A
VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF. OUR
ENFORCEMENT INSPECTORS CUT THAT
BECOMES AN STATUS BIGGEST
CALIFORNIA A VERY BIG CHALLENGE
I TO TAKE. A PUT THE GENIE BACK
IN THE BOTTLE AS IT WERE SO NOW
I WOULD ADD THOROUGHLY SUPPORT.
A A A IT AN INITIATIVE TO CREATE
A STEP CATEGORY THAT DIFFER
SHAMPOOS THAT WOULD WORK WITHIN
A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS
AUSTRIA'S.
BUT I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST
THIS BILL TODAY.
I THINK.
YEAH ARM.
YOU KNOW AGAIN GOVERNMENT'S JOB
SUPPOSED TO I BELIEVE.
FOSTER PRODUCTIVITY NOT STIFLE
IT AND AND I THINK.
THIS THIS BILL ARE FOSTERS
PRODUCTIVITY COM.
MOST PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO I'VE
HAD A NUMBER OF RADIO INTERVIEWS
AND.
ITS BEEN INTERESTING HOW PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN.
CALLING ME SAN NOW YOU DON'T
REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE
SHAMPOO THEY BELIEVE IT'S
ACTUALLY RIDICULOUS AND NOT
REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE
SO.
I THINK THE THE PUBLIC GETS IT I
THINK COMMON SENSE WOULD WOULD
SAY THIS THIS IS A GOOD THING.
OUGHT TO HELP PEOPLE GET STARTED
IN BUSINESS AND IT'S SAFE AND I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
RIVAL THANK YOU YOU CONSIDER
RURAL. IS OUR MOTION.
I MOVED.
A JEWISH HERITAGE THERE LOOK
THANK YOU OF WE HAVE A MOTION TO
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
STEVE PASS AS A MINUTE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEALTH
I.
WELL I FULLER.
FULLER I THOUGHT WHY NOT AYE
GALGIANI AYE GALGIANI AYE GLAZER
AYE HERNANDEZ.
NEWMAN NO NEWMAN NO.
AND.
WELL.
BOB I.
FIVE TWO ONE WILL HOLD A
ROLLOVER DRAFTING MEMBERS THANK
YOU SENATOR WORLD THANK SENATOR
HEALTH.
NOW MOVE I SAW SENATOR
HERTZBERG.
MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE SB ONE
ZERO ZERO ONE. WELCOME.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN. AND
MEMBERS.
GOOD AFTERNOON
YUP THE IQ OF CHILDREN.
YEAH THANK YOU STERN MEMBERS
THIS IS THE BOTS ACT OF TWO
THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN. SP ONE
ZERO ZERO ONE JUST LITTLE POETRY
IN THE NUMBER.
THE VIA.
WE HAVE SEEN JUST AN EXPLOSION
OF THESE USE OF THESE BOTS OR
BOT BASICALLY IS AN AUTOMATED
ACCOUNT
A ROBOT IF YOU WILL. THAT
MASQUERADES AS A REAL HUMAN
BEING.
IT'S MANIFESTS ITSELF IN SO MANY
DIFFERENT AREAS WE'VE SEEN IT
WHERE. THE IS BEEN REPORTED THIS
COMPANIES OUT THERE THEY GET
HIRED BY CELEBRITIES TO.
TISH TO BUILD UP THEIR SOCIAL
MEDIA AND IT TURNS OUT THAT HALF
THE PEOPLE HALF THE THINGS ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE PEOPLE ARE ROBOTS
THEIR* ON THEIR ACCOUNTS.
WE SEE THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF
THIS PROLIFERATION OF BOTS.
IN IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
WERE COMPANIES WILL ADVERTISERS
WITH ARE GOING OUT AND TRYING TO
TAKE THEIR COMPANY PUBLIC AND
SAY WE HAVE SO MANY FOLLOWERS
WHEN IN FACT THEY'RE NOT REAL
PEOPLE.
THEY'RE DO NOT REALLY TELLING
THE TRUTH AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
WHAT WE SEEN THIS IN THE
ELECTIONS AND WITH THE RUSSIANS
IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THE
IMPACT.
OF BOTS ON THESE ELECTIONS IN
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THAT'S VAGUE AND
NOT REALLY UNDERSTOOD WE SAW
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR MUELLER.
INDICTED NUMBER OF RUSSIANS WITH
RESPECT TO THIS VERY ISSUE
TRYING TO IMPACT.
ARE THE ELECTIONS JUST RECENTLY
WITH RESPECT TO THE PARK LAND
SHOOTING.
THIS PROCESS IN ORDER TO
MANIPULATE IT OVER SIX HUNDRED
RUSSIAN LINKED ACCOUNTS
WE'RE SO SHOULD BEING CREATED
WITHIN HOURS AFTER THE PARK LAND
SHOOTING. AND THOSE WERE TROLLS
WERE PUSHING INFLAMMATORY PRO
AND ANTI GUN CONTROL MESSAGES
WITHIN HOURS OF THE KILLINGS.
BUT IT WHERE RUSSIANS ACCOUNTS
WERE JUMPING ON BOTH SIDES
BASICALLY TAKING ON AMERICANS TO
MAKE EVERYONE A GIRL ANGRY AND
TRYING TO DIVIDE US.
SO HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS WERE IN
THE DAYS OF THE INTERNET SOME OF
THESE COUNTS COULD BE COMING
FROM BULGARIA OR ANY OTHER PARTS
OF THE WORLD. WHAT IS OUR ROLE
IN CALIFORNIA WITH RESPECT TO
DEALING WITH THIS WILL WE HAVE
THREE BILLION PEOPLE BASICALLY
ACROSS THE PLANET WITH THE
SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS?
AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
IS I THINK IS A REASONABLE STAFF
AND THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION
WITH YOUR COMMITTEE WITH RESPECT
TO SOME. FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS
I MENTIONED WHICH WILL DO.
WITH RESPECT TO THIS IS TO TRY
TO PUT SOME LIGHT ON THIS
TRANSPARENCY TELL THE TRUTH ARE
YOUR REAL OR NOT REAL YOUR BUT
IF HE OF HUMAN. AND SO IF YOU
TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE
HERE ON THIS THIS RIGHT HERE IF
YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE SEE OUR THE
BOT ACT WE ACTUALLY CREATED A
BOT. THAT BOUGHT UNDERSCORE
HERTZBERG AND I CREATED A BOT
THAT WAS OUT THERE AND THESE ARE
DIFFERENT BOTS AND AND TINGS
THAT I PUT UP. IN ORDER TO TRY
TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT THAT WASN'T
ME BUT WAS BOB HERTZBERG INSTEAD
OF BOB HERTZBERG.
TO TRY TO GET SOME ACTIVITY AND
MAKE THAT THAT MESSAGE
A GOING FORWARD AND SO.
THE BIG THE BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR
BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS
ONE.
LABELING.
LITERALLY TELLING US WHETHER
IT'S ABOUT BACH OR NOT A BOT IS
GOOD AND WE KNOW WE JUST HEARD
MARK ZUCKERBERG TESTIFIED BEFORE
THE CONGRESS AND SAID THAT THEY
CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION THEY
CAN TELL. THAT THEY HAVE A
POLICIES ARE COMPANIES ARE
TRYING TO DO THE RESPONSIBLE
THING THEIR POLICIES THAT SAY.
ARMED WHETHER THESE THINGS ARE
BOTS ARE NOT ONCE TO DISCOVERING
WHAT WE LEARN IS IS THAT THEY'RE
SO MANY OF THE COMING IN SUCH A
PROLIFERATION. THAT THEY'RE
DOING IT LATER ON WHEN THEY HEAR
ABOUT IT BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM
TO DO IS TO UP FRONT WHEN THEY'D
LOW THESE THINGS UP TO
IDENTIFIES MISTER ZUCKER BURKE
SAID TESTIFYING BEFORE CONGRESS.
WHETHER IT'S A BADR NOT.
WILLINGNESS TO IT BASED UPON THE
DISCUSSION COMMITTEE STAFF TO
LIMIT THIS TO.
THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
BECAUSE ARE BOTS THAT ARE
IMPORTANT RESPONSE TO GIVE EARLY
WARNINGS OF EARTHQUAKES AND ALL
KINDS OF AUTOMATED BOTS THAT WE
DON'T WANT ELIMINATE WE'RE NOT
TRYING TO. OVERREACH WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS TO GET TRUTH IAN
IN DISCLOSING WHETHER SOMEONE IS
A HUMAN OR NOT SO WE A IT'S
DISCLOSED. AND BE THE
REQUIREMENTS WHICH WILL FURTHER
SCRUB WITH RESPECT TO NOTIFYING
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS
TO WHAT STRAND AS TO WHETHER
THESE THINGS ARE BOTS ARE NOT.
AND THEN LEAVE IT TO THE
DISCRETION OF THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL TO DETERMINE WHAT UNDER
THE CURRENT LAW WHAT THEY INTEND
TO DO WITH ITS YOU UNDER
SEVENTEEN TWO HUNDRED BE A
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS CODE. OR
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR WHATEVER
THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF WE HAVE
TO REINVENT THE LAW ALL WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IN THIS MODERN
TIMES WITH THE WORLD IS CHANGED.
IS TO TRY TO BEGIN TO DEAL WITH
BUT I THINK IT'S QUITE. ASPECT
OF HOW TECHNOLOGY ON THE ONE
HAND OFFERS JUST EXTRAORDINARY
BENEFIT TO SO MANY. ON THE OTHER
HAND IT'S BEEN ABUSE WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS TO COME UP WITH
REASONABLE REGULATIONS BASED
UPON DISCLOSURE.
TO TALK ABOUT AND TO. REALLY
SHED A LIGHT ON THAT EFFORT HERE
AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS
MEASURE I THINK WE'VE GOT A
COUPLE MORE OF THESE. AVOIDS A
DROP HERE.
THAT I THINK WILL SHOW TO YOU
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE
WILLING TO THEY ARE THE
DEFINITION OF WHAT THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
THESE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES OF
CELEBRITIES THIS IS THIS THE
PARK LAND SHOOTING. AND OTHER
THINGS I PUT UP HERE WHERE BOTS
BASICALLY WAR I WAS MAKING THE%
POINT THAT BOTS WERE ACTUALLY
PUTTING THIS INFORMATION.
THESE INFORMATION OUT ASK YOUR
RIFLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
HERTZBERG A WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM GOOD
AFTERNOON DANIEL COUNTER KAISER
ON BEHALF OF COMMON SENSE KIDS
ACTION WHERE THE SPONSOR OF SP
ONE ZERO ZERO ONE.
COMMENT WE ARE AT THE ADVOCACY
ARM OF COMMON SENSE MEDIA AND WE
WORK TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN CAN
THRIVE IN TODAY'S DIGITAL WORLD.
SIXTY SIX PERCENT OF AMERICAN
TEENS USE FACEBOOK FORTY SEVEN
PERCENT USE TWITTER AND THIRTY
NINE PERCENT SAY. SOCIAL MEDIA
AS THEIR PREFERRED SOURCE OF
GETTING THE NEWS.
BOTS ARAMBULA IT ON THESE
PLATFORMS THERE ARE AN ESTIMATED
SIXTY MILLION THOUGHTS ON
FACEBOOK AND FORTY EIGHT MILLION
UNLABELED BOT ACCOUNTS ON
TWITTER.
SOME OF THESE SPOTS MAY CARRY
HARMFUL MESSAGES POLITICAL
PROPAGANDA HATE SPEECH AND
DISCRIMINATION. AS WELL AS FALSE
INFORMATION AND FAKE NEWS. WITH
THE ATTACK INTENT TO MISLEAD AND
CONFUSE INTERNET AND SOCIAL
MEDIA USERS.
EDUCATORS AND PARENTS ARE
PARTICULARLY CONCERNED.
WITH REACHED HER RESEARCH
SHOWING THAT ONLY FORTY FOUR
PERCENT OF CHILDREN SAY THEY CAN
DISTINGUISH FALSE NEWS FROM REAL
NEWS.
WITH SO MANY CHILDREN AND TEENS
ONLINE FAMILIES NEED CONFIDENCE
THAT THEY WILL BE PROTECTED FROM
UNLABELED.
ACCOUNTS THAT ARE SPREADING
FALSE INFORMATION AND THIS
HARMFUL CONTENT.
S. B. ONE ZERO ZERO ONE WOULD
MAKE ONLINE PLATFORMS MORE
TRANSPARENT FOR ALL USERS.
SO THE EDUCATED DECISIONS ABOUT
CONTENT COULD BE MADE BY
INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS IN BUSINESSES
INTACT IN THE TECH INDUSTRY TO
CRAFT AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS
CONCERNS REGARDING UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES AND IMPLEMENTATION.
AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS
REGARDING AND A TENT I'M SORRY.
SOME OF WHICH CAME IN LATE LAST
WEEKEND WE CONTINUE TO WORK IN
GOOD FAITH WITH THE AUTHORS
OFFICE. AS WELL AS INDUSTRY
STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THE SP
ONE ZERO ZERO ONE IS BOTH
THOUGHTFUL ANDY MEANINGFUL
SOLUTION.
WE ESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY AS WE CONTINUED TO
WORK. WITH THESE GOOD FAITH
CONVERSATION.
WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU OTHERS IN
SUPPORT AYE CATS O THE
INSTRUMENT YEAH I JUST I DIDN'T
MAKE IT EARLY IN A CLEAR ENOUGH
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
GIVEN WHAT WE BOTH DE TALKED
ABOUT HERE I'VE COMMITTED TO ALL
THE CAL CHAMBER. TO TO.
TO INTERNET ASSOCIATION AND
TECH NET CERTAINLY THE THEY ARE
THERE'S A SENSITIVITY TO
INDUSTRY I'M NOT LOOKING. TO
SIMPLY PUT PEOPLE OUT OF
BUSINESS IF THAT'S WHAT THE
PURPOSE THERE'S THERE'S A
BALANCE HERE WE KNOW
TECHNOLOGICALLY IT'S ABLE TO DO
SO. WE KNOW WE CAN LIMIT THIS I
THINK TO SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE
THAT'S WHERE THE REAL QUESTION
IS. BEING ASKED AND GET THE
BENEFITS THAT A TECHNOLOGY
PROVIDES WITHOUT CAUSING ANY
DAMAGE
BIG THANK YOU FOR THAT OTHERS IN
SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HELLO MY NAME IS THE MASS THAT
PHYLLIS I AM AN
APPARENT-ORGANIZER FOR COMMON
SENSE KIDS
ACTION ALSO CONSTITUENT OF
DOCTOR PAN. AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK OUR DEPENDENCE COMMITTEE FOR
AND I FELT. VERY THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
THE KNOW ONE.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION HE'S COME FOR.
NOLAN VERY GOOD THING IF THAT
GUESTS SENATOR NEWMAN. AREN'T
GUIDANCE AND.
I'M SORRY OR.
OUR PARENTS YOU. GOTTA MOVE
FASTER ALRIGHT YEAH. THE BOND
THAT'S OKAY IF YOU JUST REALLY
QUICKLY LARA BENNETT MISTER
CHAIR WITH TECH NAT WE THE MARK
WHEN SERVERS FOR HIS OFFICE AND
HIS STAFF TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS THAT HE MENTIONED IT
BRIEFLY A MINUTE AGO. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO REMOVING OUR
OPPOSITION AS WE WORK THROUGH
FINAL LANGUAGE THAT I THINK YOU
THINK IT'S BETTER OTHERS INSIST
IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
KEVIN KELLY WITH INTERNET
ASSOCIATION ONE OF ECHO THE
SENTIMENTS AND LOOK FOR TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH AUTHOR.
OKAY THANK YOU.
DAVID ENOUGH SENATOR NEWMAN AND
THEN SENATOR PAINE.
SO I'D.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR SHOW I I
DO I'M SURE I'M AMONG EVERY
MEMBER THIS COMMITTEE WHO
SUPPORTS A BROAD GOALS.
BUT THAT YOU'RE PURSUING HERE
BUT AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO.
HOW TO EXERT THE SUFFICIENT
LEVERAGE
ADD TO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO IS
AS YOU MENTIONED MOST BOTS?
ARE SOMEWHERE THER THAN
CALIFORNIA AND IF AND IF THERE
CALIFORNIA THERE THOROUGHLY
UNTOUCHABLE ANYWAY. BY AND SO IT
APPEARS LEGALIZATION THAT THEY
DO YOUR ENDEAVOR TO PASS ALONG
RESPONSIBILITY OR SHIFT
RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE USER TO
THE BUSINESS.
I EN AND REQUIRE THAT THAT
BUSINESS IT HERE.
TO SOME LEVEL OF INVESTIGATION.
AND AND AND DO RIGOR I IN THE
EVENT OF COMPLAINTS BUT. OTHER
THEN PENALIZING THAT BUSINESS IN
IN WAYS THAT.
FAR.
TRULY MEANINGFUL AND I'M NOT AND
I'M I'M NOT SURE I HOW I TO HAVE
A SENSE THAT.
.
AND I'M SURE THERE CONVERSATIONS
GOING ON WITH TECHNO NOTHER SAID
THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF BUT WHAT
WHAT IS THE THINKING RIGHT
BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT MY
EXPERIENCE.
BROADLY IS IS AS A REFERENCE TO
WORK ON THE INTERNET A INTERNET
GAMBLING.
WE DID THE THE.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUT IN PLACE
MEASURES A TO ENSURE THAT
INTERNET GAMBLING WOULD NOT TAKE
PLACE YEAH SAYS ALL THEY DID WAS
MOVE THE SERVERS ARE ACTIVE
VARIOUS OFFSHORE LOCALES.
THEREBY SATISFYING THE TECHNICAL
REQUIREMENTS SO I CAN YOU KNOW I
COULD SEE WHERE IT'S NOT A
SIMPLE THING BY ANY MEANS FOR
FACEBOOK OR TWITTER TO MOVE
THEIR BUSINESSES.
BUT IT'S NO SIMPLE THING EITHER
FOR THEM TO CREATE ENFORCEMENT
REGIME THAT THAT ACTUALLY
ACCOMPLISHES THE GOALS YOU'RE
SEEKING HERE SAID IF YOU COULD
TALK A LITTLE BIT I'VE TRIED IT.
AND.
LOOK AT THE THE INTERNET
PROVIDES AS I MENTIONED THE
OPENING AN EXTRAORDINARY BENEFIT
ACROSS THE GLOBE. BUT IT ALSO
PROVIDES IT ALSO EXPOSES TOOK
THE CHALLENGES.
AND THE QUESTION WE BECOME AS
CALIFORNIA LAWMAKERS IS DO WE
SIMPLY SIT ON THE SIDELINES WE
ADDRESS THIS IN SO MANY
DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN A SEAT
NET NEUTRALITY IN SOME OF THESE
AREAS. DO WE SIT. ON THE
SIDELINES AND SAY WELL WE CAN'T
DO ANYTHING BECAUSE
INTERNATIONAL BECAUSE THIS HIGH
COMING FROM BULGARIA.
WITH THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS
THE TO PRINCIPLE PROVIDERS IN
THE SOCIAL SPACE TWITTER AND
FACEBOOK ARE HERE NUMBER ONE
TWO.
WE KNOW THAT THE TESTIMONY AS I
INDICATED MISTER BOZAK HERTZBERG
WOULD AFFECT HIS COMPANY'S SIXTY
MILLION OF THESE PHONY BALONEY
DEALS ON A SYSTEM TWITTER.
RECORDED UNIVERSITY INDIANA AND
U. S. C. STUDY FORTY EIGHT
MILLION OF THEM THEY CLEARLY
HAVE AN ABILITY TO DEAL WITH
THEM SO IT'S NOT SUCH A BURDEN.
CERTAINLY AWARE OF WHAT'S
HAPPENED WITH RESPECT TO THE
OFFSHORE GAMING INDUSTRY
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DYNAMIC.
I WOULD SUGGEST BUT THIS IS NOT
A HARD THING FOR THEM TO DO AND
THIRDLY I THINK THAT THERE'S
BEEN A SHIFT.
PARTICULARLY RECENTLY WITH
RESPECT TO WHAT'S GOING ON
FACEBOOK A SO SOCIALLY THAT THAT
THERE HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY.
ACCELERATION TECHNOLOGICALLY IN
THIS WHOLE BROADER ISSUE. OF THE
ABILITY OF BOTH OF THE PRIVACY
SPACE WHERE WE'RE SEEING PRIVACY
INITIATIVES.
AND IN THE WHOLE TECHNOLOGY
SPACE OF WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO
DO.
AND AND AND THERE'S BEEN A
BACKLASH TO THAT THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE SEEING FOR NATIONALLY IN
THE BECAUSE WE GET TOUGHER. THE
QUESTION FOR US IS LAWMAKERS IN
CALIFORNIA IS WHAT WE DO.
TO SUBSIDE LINES AND SO I THINK
THE ANSWER THE QUESTION IS NO WE
ENGAGE AND I THINK THAT WHAT'S
WOULD MY EXPERIENCE JUST TO MAKE
THE POINT FINAL POINT IS THAT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES
THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE
NUMBER OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF
YEARS WILL WE HAVE LED THE WAY.
WHERE BECAUSE BECAUSE OF FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN CHALLENGED
STATES HAVE FOLLOWED US THEY
FOLLOWED US IN IN ENERGY
EFFICIENCY THEY FOLLOWED US IN
THE?
IN IN IN THE.
FUEL STANDARDS THEY FOLLOWED US
IN A NUMBER OF OTHER AREAS AND
EFFICIENCY FOR REFRIGERATORS AND
ALL KINDS OF THINGS WHEN PEOPLE
SAID WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE
STATE DO IT. THE TRUTH OF THE
MATTER IS WHAT WE DO IS
POLICYMAKERS AND I THINK THAT.
THE NOTION IS WE HAVE SUCH A
MONOPOLY IF YOU WILL IN
CALIFORNIA ON ON THIS THE
IMPOSITION IS SO SMALL CRAFTED
NARROWLY TO RELATE JUSTICE
SOCIAL MEDIA WE CAN HAVE A BIG
IMPACT AND I THINK IT WOULD NOT
BE RESPONSIBLE FOR US NOT TO.
LOOK AT THIS IN THE LARGER
DYNAMIC OF WHAT'S GOING ON
GLOBALLY AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK
AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EUROPE.
AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE
WORLD WE WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY AND I THINK THIS
IS A REASONABLE MEASURE TO GET
THERE BUT I I DO AND I AM
SENSITIVE TO THE POINT THAT YOU
RAISE.
THERE'S A SENATORS EXIST SO WHAT
ARE WHAT ARE THE THE FINES OR
OTHER MEASURES THAT ARE
ANTICIPATED INCIDENT. THAT WOULD
CREATE THE DETERRENCE OR THE
LEVERAGE TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW
FACEBOOK OR TWITTER IS AN
EXAMPLE. TO DO WHAT THEY SAY
WOULD THEY THEY'VE ALWAYS
INTENDED TO DO VERY HOW HOW DO
WE ACTUALLY BECAUSE AS JUST AS
CONTEXT. DIE IT IS CURRENTLY
ILLEGAL IN A CALIFORNIA LAW TO
ADVERTISE TO SOME TO IT.
ASSEMBLY VIA FAX IF THEY HAVE AN
OUGHT TO THAT I YOU KNOW WE ALL
GET THOSE FACTS ALL THE TIME IT
IS ILLEGAL UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW.
TO MARKET SIMPLY THAT THE
REVISION VIA TEXT OR TO A MOBILE
PHONE WHO ARE WE GET THAT ON THE
SENSE I I HAVE PERSONALLY I SEE
MANY COMPLAINTS THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE AND NEVER
GOTTEN EVEN A RESPONSE MUCH LESS
ACTION.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT
SOMETHING AS LARGE AS THE
INTERNET.
AND THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS
STAY EVEN YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN
EXPECT ARE GOING TO BE
HUMONGOUS.
HOW DO WE THEN CREATE A REGIME
THAT BOTH ENABLES ENFORCEMENT
BUT MOST MORE IMPORTANT IN DOING
SO CREATES A DETERRENT OR OR
THAT LEVERAGE BECAUSE THESE
COMPANIES TO DO?
WHAT AGAIN STATE THEY SAY THE
INTENDED DO WOULD PUT SO FAR
HAVE HAVE? NOT YET DONE.
WELL LET'S LET'S START THE
BEGINNING IN THE SENSE THAT.
RIGHT NOW IT'S AFTER THE FACT
THAT THEY REPORT THESE THINGS
WHEN THEY THERE'S A PATTERN OF
THEM WHEN THEY GET AROUND TO IT.
HERE'S THE POINT THAT THEY GOT
IT THEY GOT A VERIFIED UP FRONT
SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE GET A LOT
OF THESE THINGS OFF THE SYSTEM
SO THEY NEVER GET ON THE SYSTEM.
SECONDLY WHAT WE'RE GROUP YOU
KNOW I DON'T WANT TO REPRINT OF
THE GOVERNMENT HERE I DON'T WANT
TO GO AND CREATE A NEW BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT A NEW REGULATORY
OVERVIEW. I THINK IT'S FAIR WE
SEE THE SAME THING WHEN PEOPLE'S
CARS GET BROKEN INTO WHAT THEY
CALL THE POLICE AND TAKES AN
HOUR TWO HOURS TO GET THERE OR
NOT OR SOMEONE JUST PHONE IN A
REPORT. THAT'S A LARGER ISSUE
BUT BUT SO A. THERE'S THE EARLY
UP FRONT OBLIGATION BE.
SIMPLE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT
ALREADY EXISTS THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENT
THEY CAN LOOK FOR PATTERNS.
SEE THAT THE LAW OUR AS YOU
CORRECTLY NOTED ALREADY EXISTS
WE DON'T RENT KNOWN TO STINK IN
LAW WE GOT A LAW. AND THE LAWS
LAW IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED AND
THEN THE LAST ELEMENT IS OTHER
RESOURCES AND I WOULD SUSPECT
THAT WE'D SEE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL IN BEFORE THIS
LEGISLATURE.
IT WOULD THERE'S A PATTERN OF
THESE THINGS HAPPENING ASKING
FOR RESOURCES TO BUILD UP THEIR
DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
ENFORCEMENT BUT THE QUESTION IS
WHAT'S OUR OBLIGATION
INDEPENDENT OF THAT. BECAUSE
WE'RE SAYING WELL WE CAN FORCES
WHO DON'T TO THE LAW WE'VE GOT
THE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES YOU
GET THE SIGNIFICANT MANIPULATION
SEEMS TO ME THAT THE THAT THAT
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM
THE MARKET FORCES IS THAT IF
PEOPLE SEE. THAT IT'S A BOT
YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHAT THE
IMPACT IS YOU'RE GONNA KNOW IF
YOU'RE BUYING A SERVICE FOR FOR
A TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO FOLLOW
YOU AND YOU'RE A MOVIE STAR.
THEN THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR
PEOPLE YOUR LAWYERS LOOK AT THEM
AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT BOTS
YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU CAN YOU
DILIGENCE IN THE COMPANY BEFORE
YOU GO PROV PUBLIC. THAT
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO REVIEW THOSE
TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT BOTS.
THE AND SO TO ME IT'S A IT'S A
IT'S A SMALL STEP. TOWARD IT IN
A VERY LARGE ISSUE OF THINGS SO
I I I DON'T DISAGREE THAT YOU
HAVE A POKE SOME HOLES IN THIS.
BUT IT IS A DEEPER CHALLENGE
pNATURE OF THIS STUFF
AND THOUGH WE GOTTA BE
RESPONSIBLE TO THE TO FIGURE IT
OUT I THINK THIS IS A. RUSH THAT
AN EASY WAY TO DO THAT ARE GONNA
I DON'T MEAN YOU TO POKE HOLES
IN IN THE. CONTENT BAD BUT WHAT
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE
ACTUAL. YOU KNOW SHOULD THE
APPLICATION. OF THE SOLUTIONAND
A NO AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE NOT ONLY
IS TELEMARKETING. EXPRESS
ILLEGAL IN MANY WAYS BUT WE YOU
KNOW YOU YOU DON'T KNOW NOW
WHETHER I SIMPLY IS CALLING YOU
FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD A
BECAUSE INTERNET BASED PHONE
CALLS ARE CHEAPER IN SOME CASES
THAN MALE. AND SO TO KNOW THAT
THERE ARE BOTCH ON A SYSTEM IS
VERY DIFFERENT.
THEN TO READ THAT SYSTEM OF
MUCH
I END TO PRESUME THAT CONSUMERS
ARE EITHER SMART ENOUGH OR GONNA
BE PROACTIVE ENOUGH TO TAKE
THOSE STEPS. GUY AND NOT ALWAYS
TRUE YEAH I ANY IT'S IT'S ALSO
PROBABLY TRUE THAT THE
ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES THAT WOULD
BE NECESSARY WITHIN THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE GENERAL'S
OFFICE ARE CONSIDERABLE. AYE IN
THIS CASE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM
ESPECIALLY IF IF WE OR. I TO
ENFORCE IN CALIFORNIA WHAT IS
CLEARLY A GLOBAL ISSUE I'D YOU
KNOW AGAIN IT'S ONLY OUR
RESPONSIBILITY INSOFAR AS. THOSE
COMPANIES HEADQUARTERED HERE SO
AGAIN I I DON SYMPATHETIC TO THE
EFFORT I'M JUST NOT CLEAR.
ON THE ACTUAL DID YOU KNOW THAT
THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE
SOLUTION BUT. I DON'T KNOW JUST
YOUR FINISH IF I CAN MISTER
CHAIRMAN AND THAT IS THIS.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THE PARK WHEN
SHOOTING.
OKAY.
AND LET'S ASSUME THAT
SOMEBODY WROTE SHERMAN SENDIRI
STUFF ONCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
THE ISSUE IN THE PARKLAND
SHOOTING.
AND YOUR WATCH YOUR ON THE WEB
IN YOUR ON THEIR FACEBOOK
ACCOUNT YOU'RE READING IT.
IT'S A WHOLLY DIFFERENT RESPONSE
THAT A PERSON WOULD HAVE IF YOU
KNEW THAT WAS A PERSON OR IT WAS
A. ROBOT.
I MEAN I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE
JUSTICE IMPACT IS DRAMATICALLY
LESS THIS SAYS THIS IS A BOT
WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFIED AS A BOT
SO YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT'S A BOT
THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY. GETTING
OUT THERE AND ENGAGE IN THIS
PROCESS
ABOUT HERBS ARE YOU ONLY BE ABLE
TO DO THAT IF IF YOU CAN.
IDENTIFY THAT BOUGHT IN ADVANCE.
AND I'M NOT SURE I WOULD MAKE
THAT DISTINCTION NO OFFENSE TO
TROLLING IS TROLLING.
AND THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF
TROLLS WHETHER THEY'RE LIVOR
AUTOMATED AT IN THIS DAY AND AGE
I THINK WE ALL HAVE LEARNED THIS
PERSONALLY.
IT'S I I YOU KNOW IF IT'S ABOUT
THE THE SCALE. WELL I YOU KNOW I
DON'T KNOW I MEAN I'M SO.
AND AGAIN IT'S ABOUT THE AS A
PRACTICAL MATTER I MEAN HOW DO
WE DO THIS IN SO THAT YOU KNOW
SO FAR YOU KNOW THESE TWO
COMPANIES THAT USE TWITTER. OR
FRAUD FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE IS
BETTER EXAMPLES THESE ARE TWO OF
THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
AT THAT THERE ARE AT THE CUTTING
EDGE IN AN ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE. THEY DO NOT YET
HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO THIS IN ANY
WAY OTHER THAN MANUAL
ENFORCEMENT.
AND THE SKILL OF THE INTERNET
SUCH THAT IT BECOMES
IMPRACTICAL.
AT AND SO AGAIN DIED WORTHY
GOAL.
I'M NOT SURE IT LEGISLATIVELY
HOW TO DO THIS.
I I CAN SAY YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
STUDENT HERE IS THAT THE MISTER
ZUCKER BURKE SAID THAT HE HAS
THE CAPACITY TO DO SO IN HIS OWN
TEST.
HE'S THE CHAIRMAN OTHER CO ONE
LARGEST COMPANIES THAT HAS THE
LARGEST NUMBER OF BOTS IN THE
WORLD AND HE SAYS YOU CAN DO IT.
SO I TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD AND
COMMON SENSE.
KIDS ACTION GROUP WHOSE WHO
SPONSORED THIS MEASURES TO ALLOW
THE HOMEWORK AND I THINK THAT
THE QUESTION BECOMES WE ALWAYS
GRAPPLE WITH IN THIS NEW
TECHNOLOGY SPACE MISTER
CHAIRMAN.
IS IS THE DID THERE'S NO REAL
CLEAR ANSWERS BUT WE NEED TO
TAKE RESPONSIBLE STEPS MOVING
FORWARD. AND GUESS WHAT THE
REASON WHY WE'RE IN SESSION NEXT
YEAR AND NEXT YEAR AND NEXT YEAR
IS BECAUSE
CAN YOU REALLY IMPROVE. THE LAW
AND MAKE IT BETTER AND I
GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL BOTH
IMPROVE THE ABILITY TO DETECT
THIS ON THE ONE HAND.
AND THE OTHER HAND WILL IMPROVE
THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO TRY TO
HIDE IN MASK WHAT THEY'RE
ACTUALLY DOING AND WILL CONTINUE
TO ENGAGE IN AT THAT PROCESS
WHICH IS MAKES THE LEGISLATURE
RELEVANT AND.
GOING FORWARD JERRY JUST A
COMPLETED NINE I'M SORRY
MONOPOLIZE THE TIME IT'S AYE I
AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THE BILL
TODAY SIR.
AND BUT I AM AYE I WOULD I AM
HOPEFUL.
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THINK
THROUGH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS TO
SITUATE THAT WOULD MAKE IT A
MATERIAL DIFFERENCE.
THANK YOU MISTER THANK YOU
SENATOR NEWMAN WE HAVE A SENATOR
PAN AND THEN SENATOR FULLER AND
SENATOR DODD.
THANK YOU SARAH SPREAD FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD AND.
CLEARLY WE WE HAVE A HUGE
CHALLENGE.
AND ARE.
SOCIAL MEDIA SPACE AND OUR
INTERNET SPACE I THINK.
ONE LEVEL FOR STATE PROVIDE
TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGES AND
CONNECTING PEOPLE. BUT THEY ALSO
BE NOW SEEMED RISK SIDE OF THE
CONNECTIONS ESPECIALLY WHEN
PEOPLE USE THEM FOR.
LESS THAN POSITIVE.
REASONS INCLUDING ACTUALLY
SPREADING MISINFORMATION.
INTENTIONALLY TO UNDERMINE OUR
HEALTH AND SAFETY SEEN THAT.
A WAYS.
AND THEN OF COURSE.
TO AMPLIFY THE MOST EXTREMIST
VOICES OUT THERE TO TRY TO SOW
DIVISION AND UNDERMINE OUR
DEMOCRACY.
AND I THINK THAT.
WE CERTAINLY NEED TO. YELL AT
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WE MAY HAVE
LIMITATIONS THERE MAY BE PEOPLE
FROM OVERSEAS AND OTHER PLACES
BUT. I DO THINK THAT.
HERE IN CALIFORNIA WE CAN.
BUT PLACE LAWS THAT LEAST.
ALLOW US TO AT LEAST ACT AND TO
ADDRESS THIS.
BECAUSE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS HERE
ABOUT YOUR BILL WHICH I I DO
SUPPORT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOUR
GOALS ARE. IS.
THE DEFINITION OF A PLOT AND I
KNOW YOU'RE TALKING TO THE
OPPOSITION.
FRANKLY ACTUALLY IT'S YOUR
DEFINITION IS THE TURING TEST
WHICH YEARS WHICH I.
WHICH HAS BEEN USING TO AN
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND ONE
COULD ARGUE WHETHER WE'VE MET
THAT ARE NOT.
SO.
I HOPE THAT YOU'LL A ENSURES
YOU'RE TALKING TO THE OPPOSITION
IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT.
.
FRANKLY TO ME IT WOULD BE ANY
SORT OF COMPUTER PROGRAM OR
AUTOMATION PROGRAM ON THE
INTERNET ARE AND SOCIAL MEDIA
AND AGAIN LIKE I TRIED TO FIND
THIS OR YOU DIDN'T A TIGHTLY.
BUT THAT IT DAD WHOSE ATTENTION
IS TO INTERACT WITH HUMANS.
IN A WAY THAT WITHOUT
IDENTIFYING ITSELF AS BEING AN
AUTOMATION.
SO.
.
SO YOU'RE NOT DEPENDENT ON
HUMAN THINKING YOU KNOW HAVING
TO JUDGE WHAT THEY GOT TRICKED
OR NOT BUT I THINK THAT. ARE BY
DEFINITION IT SHOULD BE IT'S
THAT IT'S A PROGRAMMER
AUTOMATION THAT DOES REVEAL
ITSELF OPENLY DECLARE ITSELF TO
BE OF SUCH SO THAT. PEOPLE KNOW
WONDER AIR ACTING WITH THAT.
THAT THAT THERE ARE ALERTED
IMMEDIATELY AND IF THAT'S IF
THEY'RE NOT IF IT'S NOT A NATION
THAT DOESN'T DO THAT THAT BY
DEFINITION THAT SHOULD BE A
PROBLEM AND I
REALIZE REST YOUR BILL
ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT. BUT
PERHAPS THAT COULD BE A
DEFINITION.
THAT.
WOULD BE MORE AND I'M NOT A
LAWYER.
CLICK MORE CLARIFY WHAT PLUS
ABOUT.
NOT BECAUSE I I DO THINK THAT
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REALIZE
YOU'RE AND ACTING WITH A BOTTLE
OR SUCH AN AUTOMATION. I OUR
REACTIONS ARE LITTLE DIFFERENT
UP FOR EXAMPLE YOU BY MORE
LIKELY IF YOU REALIZE THAT THE
YOU CAN MESSAGES FROM IT TO
BLOCK THAT IF YOU MAY BE
RELUCTANT TO BLOCK A PERSON.
PITY BECAUSE HE NATIONALIZED
PRICEY WE CAN INTERACT WITH THEM
YOU
DEGREE IN IRAQ THAT WE'RE SAYS.
BUT YOU REALIZE THERE'S NO
OPPORTUNITY FOR PERSUASION THERE
HITS THAT THAT THINGS JUST DOING
WHAT IT'S DOING. AND PERHAPS
THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF MESSAGING
THAT YOU WANT TO SELL IT ACTION
POWERS.
THOSE OF US WHO ACTUALLY
RECEIVING THESE FEEDS
TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE
WISH TO INTERACT WITH
ESSENTIALLY THE REST OF THE
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM WHICH WE
KNOW A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION ARE.
AUTOMATION OUR BOXER
AUTOMATION'S
SO AND I HOPE THAT SO I THINK
THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY
IMPORTANT AND THEN AGAIN.
TRYING TO.
AT A REALLY DO THINK THIS ABOUT
DISCLOSURE OF THE CERTAINLY AT
THIS LEVEL.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO STOP THE BOTS
PEOPLE TREAT THEM BY LEASE.
TO THE DEGREE THAT WE SHOULD
THAT PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW WHO
THEY'RE BETTER ACTING WITH ON
SOCIAL MEDIA. I THINK THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT.
MCCULLOUGH RIGHT ARE AT LEAST A
SOMETHING THAT ALL OF IT SHOULD
BE EMPOWERED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE
CAN BE SURE THAT. PEOPLE WHO USE
SOCIAL MEDIA ARE EMPOWERED TO
KNOW WHO THEY'RE ACTING WENT.
OVER THERE TO MACHINE ARE PERSON
I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
SO I HOPE THAT.
THAT WILL BE WHAT YOU GOAL CAN
ACHIEVE YOUR BILL KENNEDY.
THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU SENATOR
PAN SENATOR FULLER.
WELL I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE
SHOULD KNOW WHAT ABOUT IS AND
WHO THEY ARE AND HONESTLY I'D
PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW MUCH THAT
BEFORE YOU BROUGHT THIS BILL
FORWARD SO I THANK YOU FOR
EDUCATING ME ALREADY.
AND.
.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY GOING TO
GROW IN NEED.
UP BUT HAVING A SAID THAT.
I THINK THREE AREAS CONCERN ME
AND I I'D LIKE TO VOTE HIS BILL
I'D LIKE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK
ON IT LIKE A TWO MINUTE BUT I'M
NOT SURE THEM CLING TO TODAY.
THE FIRST IS
THE SOLUTION IS THE PROBLEM
THAT THE GOAL IS PERFECT BUT THE
SOLUTION IS THE PROBLEM IN THREE
WAYS.
UP ONE I THINK WAS PRETTY CLEAR
A CLEARLY ARTICULATED ALREADY
ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEMS
AND BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE
ALSO WORKING WITH TECHNIQUE.
BOTH ON THE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL
AS A GROW GLOBAL APPROACH SO.
PERHAPS THOSE ARE THINGS THAT
CONTINUE TO GROW IN.
.
STRONG TO A STRONGER POSITION.
BUT NUMBER TWO.
TALKING ABOUT DEFINITIONS FOR
IDENTIFICATION.
REALLY.
I'M NOT CLEAR ON SO FOR EXAMPLE
IF. IF SOMEONE AND I JUST
ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY IF SOMEONE.
IS BEING.
THE FRONT FOR A BOT WHAT'S DID
WHAT'S THE TO.
ENOUGH TO KEEP THEM FROM JUST
LIKE WHATEVER THE LEAD ATTORNEYS
NAME ON THAT GROUP AS THEY PUT
THEIR NAME AND NOW THEY'RE REAL
PERSON OR LIKE HOW ARE YOU EVER
GOING TO SORT OUT.
WHERE THEM FOUGHT THE AUTOMATED
BOT IS I MEAN I DON'T THINK
THERE'S ANY OF THESE CAUSES ARE
NON PROFITS A WOULD HAVE
SOMEBODY THAT WOULD PUT THEIR
NAME BEHIND IT IF ALL WE HAD TO
DO WAS HAVE A PERSON?
NAME BEHIND IT THAN IT WAS IN
THE BOTANY MORE.
AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ON
ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY IDENTIFICATION THE
DEFINITION FOR IDENTIFICATION I
THINK NEEDS TO BE MUCH MUCH
STRONGER SAY THIS THAT WE CAN I
CAN PRESS LIKE ME CAN READ IT
AND FIGURE OUT. WHO THEY'RE
GOING AFTER THE CURE THE
PROBLEM?
AND AND IF THAT'S NOT PUT IN
PLACE THEN I THINK WE HAVE A
PROBLEM OF PERCEPTION THAT THERE
ARE CERTAIN CAUSES.
THEY MIGHT BE TARGETED.
BECAUSE THERE'S AMBIGUITY FOR.
WHAT A PERSON IS OR WHAT A
PERSON IS IN OUR WHEN A PERSON
BEGINS WHEN A PERSON HANDS?
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR. AND
THEN I THINK LAST BUT NOT LEAST
ARE THE RESOURCES IT SEEMS LIKE.
SINCE THERE'S NO. ARM.
IDENTIFICATION OF RESOURCES AT
ALL.
FROM MY STANDPOINT RIGHT NOW
LOOKS LIKE YOU TAKE HUGE
RESOURCES TO DO SOMETHING. OF
THIS BROAD.
AND I WOULD RATHER HAVE THOSE
RESOURCES USED FOR THINGS THAT
RESULT MORE FIDELITY ARE MORE
FINANCIAL DAMAGE THAN THIS.
SO CAN YOU BOX THAT UP AND MAKE
IT MORE PARENTS WHAT KIND OF
RESOURCES WE MIGHT NEED AND THEN
I WOULD BE. VERY HAPPY BECAUSE I
THINK WE COULD RID OURSELVES OF
NON PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
BAKER CENTER FULLER.
.
SENATOR DODD MOVED BILL.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
DOT THANK YOU VERY MUCH WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. IT THANK YOU
IT'S BEEN A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION
AND LOOK IT'S CHALLENGING AND I
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
EVERYONE'S HAD SOME.
THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS IT IS A DID
INDEED A CHALLENGING NEW
FRONTIER THAT WERE ENGAGED AND
THEN THERE. IT'S DIFFICULT
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE GOT TO
FIGURE IT OUT AND AND.
WHO WILL WILL DO SO WE'RE GOING
TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY EVERY ONE
OF THE ISSUES?
CERTAINLY HAVE REYES I SPOKE
WITH CHAIR A WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE WORK ON THIS IS
CHALLENGING CHALLENGING FIELD I
JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN SHRINK
FROM IT.
AND I THINK WE'VE JUST GOT TO
PUT OUR CREATIVE MINDS TO THIS
TO FIGURE OUT A WAY. ARE AND IF
IT MEANS MORE RESOURCES TO THE
AG'S OFFICE CERTAINLY AT MY END
VILLAGE A JUDGMENT IS NOT TO ADD
MORE OF PLAY MOST MOST WHAT MORE
COST TO GOVERNMENT. I DO
BELIEVE.
FROM THE DISCUSSION EARLIER
THAT.
THE DISCLOSURE WILL HAVE A BIG
IMPACT ON HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE
STUFF THAT IF YOU IF YOU'RE OUT
THERE IS SOMEONE DOES NOT
TALKING LOOK. WHAT'S ABOUT
TRYING TO DO IT SPOTS TRYING TO
ME NOT JUST SAY I'M AN AUTOMATED
MESSAGE IS CALLING YOU TO VOTE
FOR SOMEBODY OR TO DO SOMETHING.
THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE THE
IMPRESSION THAT THEY'RE HUMAN
BEINGS. THAT'S FOR THE TRYING TO
DO AND AND SO AS A CONSEQUENCE
IF IT SAYS. LETTER HARD THEY
TRIED THIS IS NOT A HUMAN BEING
THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD WAY TO BE
ABLE TO WHEN YOU GET THE
ROBOCALL DELETE OR BLOCK A CALL
OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. AND
I JUST THINK THAT GOES A LONG
WAY IN BASICALLY MAKING A
GIGANTIC STEP FOR THESE BIG
COMPANIES REALLY TWITTER AND
FACEBOOK IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA
SIDE. TO IT TO REALLY ENGAGE AND
TO EXERCISE SOME CONTROL OVER
THIS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES IT
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RESPECT TO
POLITICS AND BUSINESS.
AND AND AND AND THE LIKE BUT I
THINK IT IS A BROADER A CONCEPT
IN TERMS OF THE CREDIBILITY OF
THE COMPANIES AND I I DO SEE. A
RESPONSIBILITY IN THE INDUSTRY
AND THEY'RE GRAPPLING WITH THIS
WHOLE WORLD IS MOVING ITS TO
BREAK NECK SPEED WERE ALL HAVING
A HARD TIME DOING IT. AND I'M
CERTAIN THAT THE LATE NIGHT OIL
THAT'S BURNED IN THESE OFFICES
ALL AROUND SILICON VALLEY THAT
ARE WORKING AT THIS THING. IS A
LOT HONORABLE PEOPLE TRYING TO
FIGURE IT OUT AND AND AND AND
AND IN THIS IS KIND OF SOME THE
SKIN AWAY FROM US SO I. LA
CONFIDENCE EXERT STEP ESCRIBO.
BROUGH THANK YOU SENATOR
HERTZBERG AND I OF. AYE TO AGREE
WITH WITH YOU THAT I THINK THIS
IS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS
ATTENTION.
IT NEEDS SOME.
SOME WORKABLE SOLUTION I THINK
YOU'RE CLOSE.
CERTAINLY WE TALKED IN THE THE
ISSUE OF THE DEFINITION AND HOW
WE CAN GET TO A.
WE'RE GOING TO CLARIFY THAT AND
I THINK YOU YOU'VE YOU'RE
GETTING CLOSE IN THAT AS WELL
AND CERTAINLY THE PART OF THE
RIVER REPORTING REQUIREMENTS HOW
THAT WOULD WORK. HOW WE CAN
BRING THAT TOGETHER I THINK
WOULD WOULD WOULD MAKE THIS A OF
A LOTTA A LOT TIGHTER BILL? IN
THAT IT WILL DO I THINK WHAT TO
WITH THE GOAL ISN'T IN MIND IN
KNOWING THAT HE GOES TO
JUDICIARY I GUESS NEXT WEEK IN
MEDICAL APPROPRIATIONS WHERE.
I'LL HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE
APPLE IN THAT THEN WE CAN LOOK
AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE
WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION SO I APPRECIATE THAT
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
DODD. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ACTION IS DAY PASSED THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HELD BY HILL
AYE FULLER.
FULLER NOW DOT ON DODD AYE
GALGIANI GLAZER.
HERNANDEZ WHEN AN ANTI NEWMAN.
NEWMAN AYE PANTS AYE AND I WILL
CRY WILK AYE.
WHICH CIC DISCIPLINARY THINK SIX
VOTES WILL HOLD THE RULE OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU
SENATOR HERTZBERG MOVING TO
SENATOR BATES ITEM NUMBER FIVE
S. B. ELEVEN NO NINE WELCOME
SENATOR BATES
.
APPROACH.
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATOR BAKED.
WAITING FOR MIAMI WITNESSES.
OKAY THAT'S FINE.
WHEN YOU'RE COMFORTABLE PLEASE
PROCEED I AM.
I DO MISS BEING ON THIS
COMMITTEE GREAT DISCUSSIONS VERY
EDUCATION.
BUT FOR GREAT LEADERSHIP IS WHAT
YOU'RE LOOKING YEAH.
WITHOUT THAT MODERN.
IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE ON LOBBYING
YOU AND YOUR ATHLETES.
DO YOU CARE ABOUT.
YOU GOOD MORNING ON MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS LAW SENATE BILL
ELEVEN NO NINE SEEKS TO ADDRESS
THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC BY PROVIDING
PREVENTIVE EDUCATION FOR ALL
INVOLVED.
PACIFIC LEAVE THE MEASURE
REQUIRES THE EXISTING ARE
CONTINUING EDUCATION
REQUIREMENTS FOR PRESCRIBERS TO
INCLUDE THE RISKS OF ADDICTION
OVERDOSE. ASSOCIATED WITH THE
USE OF SCHEDULED TO CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES.
IT REQUIRES A WARNING LABEL ON
ALL SCHEDULED TO CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES.
BECAUSE PRESCRIPTION BOTTLE
PHONY ASSOCIATED ADDICTION AN
OVERDOSE MASKS.
IT REQUIRES A MINOR SENATE
PARENT OR GUARDIAN SIGNATURE
AFTER A REQUIRES CONSULTATION
WITH THE PRESCRIBER FOR ANY
MINOR RECEIVING AN INITIAL
OPIOID PRESCRIPTION.
AND LASTLY I ON IT REQUIRES AN
INFORMATION SHEET ON THE RISKS
OF OPIOIDS TO BE SIGNED BY THE
MINOR ATHLETE. AND THEIR PARENT
OR GUARDIAN BEFORE PARTICIPATION
AUDION ORGANIZED OFF SPORTS.
ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS FOR
DISEASE CONTROL FIFTY THREE
THOUSAND AMERICANS DIED FROM
OPIATE OVERDOSES AND TWENTY
FIFTEEN. WHICH TOTALS MORE
DEATHS THAN CAR ACCIDENTS IN
THAT SAME YEAR. IN THE CURRENT
DEATH COUNT EXCEEDS THE NUMBER
KILLED IN THE VIETNAM WAR.
CALIFORNIA HAS JUST SHY OF TWO
THOUSAND OPIOID RELATED DEATHS
IN TWENTY SIXTEEN WITH TWELVE
PERCENT. OF THOSE BEING IN DOWN
OCCURRING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
IN LATE OCTOBER TWENTY SEVENTEEN
THE PRESIDENT DECLARED THE
OPIOID CRISIS A NATIONAL PUBLIC
HEALTH EMERGENCY.
THOUGH NOT EVERYONE WHO USES THE
DRUG.
BECOMES ADDICTIVE THERE'S STILL
A VERY HIGH RISK FOR BECOMING
ADDICTED WHEN USING OPIOIDS. AND
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE
FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS AS I
CONTINUE TO READ AND HEAR
PERSONAL STORIES OF INDIVIDUALS
WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED.
IN THIS NATIONAL EPIDEMIC I KNOW
I AM NOT ALONE IN WANTING TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SAVE LIVES
AND EDUCATE PEOPLE. ON CERTAINLY
THE BENEFITS WITH THE EXTREME
DANGERS HOW WITH THESE KIND OF
DRUGS.
ENSURING PATIENTS MINERS AND
THEIR PARENTS HAVE THE NECESSARY
INFORMATION BEFORE TAKING. THESE
MEDICATIONS WILL HELP PREVENT
FUTURE ADDICTIONS AND OVERDOSES.
THIS PAST JULY THE PRESIDENT'S
COMMISSION ON COMBATING DRUG
ADDICTION AN OPIOID CRISIS
DECLARED THAT. OPIATES WERE
KILLING ROUGHLY A HUNDRED AND
FORTY TWO AMERICANS EACH DAY.
ITALIE VIVIDLY DESCRIBED AS
SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH EVERY THREE
WEEKS.
IT IS HARD TO STOMACH THE LOSSES
THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED
TODAY.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT S. B.
ELEVEN ON NINE CAN MOVE US IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION EVEN IF WE
ARE SAVING JUST A FEW MORE LIVES
AS WE GO FORWARD. I THINK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF ESPECIALLY THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS
THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OVER
THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
I TO GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY I
WILL BE TAKING THE AUTHOR'S
AMENDMENTS TO CLARIFY. THAT THE
WARNING LABEL LANGUAGE WILL BE
MODELED AFTER RESET STATE OF
MINNESOTA STATUTES. ARE AS WELL
AS A FEW AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY
THE COMMITTEE IS NOTED IN THE
ANALYSIS AND ABSENT COMMENTS
ELEVEN AND TWELVE ON PAGES
THIRTEEN.
AND I'M PROUD TO JOIN THE SAN
DIEGO DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUMMER
STEPHAN WHO'S SPONSORING OUR HAS
FEEL EVAN LOW NINE. REPRESENTING
THE DA TODAY AS DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY LARA TOWNIE TO ANSWER
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE.
IN ADDITION WE ARE THANKFUL.
TO HAVE SHERRY RUBIN HERE FROM
SAN DIEGO TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL ENSURE HER SON'S
PERSONAL STORY WITH OPIUM FLANK
THANK YOU MEMBERS AND I LOOK
FORWARD. TO HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS
ARE AS WE GO FORWARD THANK YOU
SENATOR BATES.
GOOD AFTERNOON WELCOME.
THE COMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
THAT ARE BATES.
I'M I'M HERE BEFORE YOU AS A
MOTHER.
I REYES FOR CHILDREN.
AND THEY WERE VERY CLOSE IN AGE
AND THEY'RE ALL HEALTHY AND
ACTIVE AND IN SPORTS AS SOON AS
THEY COULD.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AND THERE
WERE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS
INJURIES.
ANY EVENTS NATURALLY BY THAT
THEY WERE INJURED. IN SPORTS AND
JUST HORSING AROUND WITH EACH
OTHER ESPECIALLY THE THREE
POINTS.
NEVER ONCE IN ANY OF THOSE
YEARS RAISING MY CHILDREN WHO
ARE NOW ADULTS.
DID ANYONE EVER EXPLAIN TO ME
WHAT A PAIN KILLER WAS.
WHAT I WAS PUTTING IN THEIR
BODY?
NEVER ONCE.
AND.
IF I COULD GO BACK.
I WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN
EDUCATED BY MY POSITION.
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RISK
FACTORS.
IF THEY HAD NO.
ABOUT DOES AND UNFORTUNATELY
FOR ME.
.
TIME WASN'T THE RIGHT TIME AND
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT
INFORMATION AND I DIDN'T HAVE
THAT INFORMATION.
WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION NOW.
AND.
.
THIS OPIATE EPIDEMIC HAS BEEN
FUELED BY A LACK OF PERCEPTION
OF HARM.
OF THE PUBLIC.
A PHYSICIAN'S APPEARANCE AND
YOUNG ADULTS.
WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT LACK OF
PERCEPTION OF HARM IF WE CANNOT
BECOME EDUCATED.
AND WHILE I NOW OUR PHYSICIANS
ARE EXTREMELY BUSY.
EVERY STUDENT ATHLETE MUST.
AND IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A
PHYSICAL.
THE PLANES FORCE YOU PROBABLY
TAKING YOUR OWN CHILDREN.
THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR THE
DISCUSSION OF OPIOIDS.
AND TO HAVE THE THE PAPER GIVEN
TO THE PARENTS AND THE WAIVER
SIGNED THERE'S NO EXTRA. OFFICE
VISIT THAT THE PARENT HAS TO PAY
FOR THEIR IS AN EXTRA TIME THAT
THE DOCTOR HOUSE TO GIVE THIS IS
A PERFECT.
TIME FOR THIS TO HAPPEN FOR
STUDENT ATHLETES.
AND I THINK THAT.
.
AS WE AS WE WERE LISTENING TO
THE TECHNOLOGY. AYE TESTIMONIES
AND BILLS.
OUR SOCIETY IS MOVING FORWARD
AND IT MOVES FAST.
AND WE'RE JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO
LOCK UP SPRAY PAINT.
WE HAVE TO LOCK UP OTHER
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.
BUT NECESSARY.
PRODUCTS IN OUR HOME.
IT'S NOW TIME.
THAT WE TAKE A STRONGER LOOKIT
OPIOIDS.
AND.
UNDERSTAND
THAT SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T
DIE.
THE FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DEATHS.
IN TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN.
IS A STRONG STATEMENT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING DOWN IF DEATHS
WERE GOING DOWN.
I'D BE HAPPY I WOULDN'T BE HERE
TODAY WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION BUT THIS HAS TO
HAPPEN WE HAVE TO BECOME
EDUCATED.
AND INVEST IN OUR OWN HEALTH
CARE BY MAKING THE CHOICES I WAS
NEVER EVEN GIVEN. A CHOICE OF
WHAT PAIN KILLER TO USE I WAS
TOLD TO USE THIS PAINKILLER.
AND I HAD I TOOK THE POSITIONS
WORK.
AND THEY HAD NO IDEA AND I HAD
NO IDEA WHAT I PUT IN MY
CHILD'S.
AND SO THIS IS A COMMON LAW ARE
LADDERS HAVE CHRIS LABELS ON
THEM OTHER DANGEROUS MATERIALS
HAVE.
LABELS ON THEN THAT IS COMMON
SENSE EDUCATING THEIR PATIENTS
TO ME AS COMMON SENSE
THEY TOOK AN OATH TO DO NO HARM.
AND SO. I BELIEVE I HAVE FULL
SUPPORT.
AND THE SPELL.
AND IF YOU'D ASK ME I'D BE A
LITTLE TOUGHER HAVE.
I SUPPORT THE BILL AND I'M
THANKFUL. FOR THE LEGISLATION
I'M COMING.
IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY AND
HOPEFULLY.
.
TO THE FUTURE WHERE WE CAN
EDUCATE.
THE PUBLIC.
AND EVERYONE ELSE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND I DID NOT GET YOUR NAME
I'M SHERRI RUBIN WHO THANK YOU.
SENATOR BASIS THAT AND AARON
RUBEN.
HILL WAS IN A COMA FOR A MONTH.
AND WHEN HE DID WAKE UP HE WAS
BLIND.
HE CANNOT. NO LONGER SPEAK.
HE UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING.
THAT'S GOING ON ANY ANSWERS ONE
FOR YES AND TO FOR NOW HE'S BEEN
HERE AT THE CAPITOL.
HE DOES PRESENTATIONS WE'VE
BEEN TO WASHINGTON DC AND
THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
TO.
HELP.
EDUCATE.
NOT.
THIS THE STUDENTS AT A SCHOOL
BUT EVERYBODY OUT OF SCHOOL.
AND TO HELP EDUCATE DOCTORS
AND TO HELP EDUCATE.
MOTHERS AND FATHERS BUSINESSMEN
YOU WE HAVE A HEALTH CRISIS ARE
WORKMAN'S COMP. I MEAN
EVERYTHING THIS IS AN ASPECT IT
IS ALL OVER THE BOARD.
AND IT AFFECTS US YOU KNOW HOW
MANY PEOPLE I NOW I KNOW
THOUSANDS THAT HAVE MENTALLY.
AND PHYSICALLY DAMAGED
INDIVIDUALS FROM OPIATES.
COST FINANCES.
EVERYTHING THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OTHERS IN SUPPORT IT
PLEASE THANK YOU DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY LARA TANNING ON BEHALF
OF SUMMER STUFF AND DISTRICT
ATTORNEY OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE.
.
OUR OFFICE IS THE SPONSOR OF
THIS BILL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
THANK SENATOR BATES FOR BRINGING
THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
AS WELL AS.
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING
WITH US ON THE AMENDMENTS
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK.
SHIRI RUBEN FOR BEING HERE
TODAY TO TESTIFY ON THIS
IMPORTANT BILL BOTH.
HER SON HER OF HER SONS WERE
ADDICTED TO OPIOIDS
AS A RESULT OF PRESCRIPTION
OPIOIDS BEING PRESCRIBED AND
WHAT THAT LED TO THE OVERDOSE.
AND COMA AND PHYSICAL AND
EMOTIONAL CHALLENGES OF HER SON
AND THE FAMILY.
I'M I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE THEM. BACK IN.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
BY MICHAEL DAY AFTER THE PRAYER
MIKAYLA A ON BEHALF OF MCKESSON.
WE SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT
HELPS ADDRESS THE NATION'S
OPIOID EPIDEMIC AND WE BELIEVE
S. B. O. ELEVEN ON NINE WILL
HELP WITH THAT THANK YOU
.
GET UP CAN YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MAKE IT ALRIGHT AND WE
HAVE THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY TAKING
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION.
I.
THE EMMY APPRECIATES ALL THE
DISCUSSIONS THEY AUTHORS OFFICES
OFFICE HAS ENGAGED WITH.
I'M WITH US ON OUR CONCERNS AND
VIRTUALLY THERE'S STILL A FEW
AREAS IN WHICH.
THAT WOULD.
AREAS WHICH ARE TROUBLESOME TO
OUR MEMBERS.
AS THE EMMY OPPOSES LANGUAGE
STATING THE INTENT TO CODIFY
MEDICAL BOARD GUIDELINES AS
THEIR GUIDELINES AND THEY ARE
UPDATED REVISED REPLACED.
BY THE BOARD AS CALLED FOR.
AT WE ALSO POSE A PROVISION
REQUIRING SIGNED INFORMED
CONSENTING COUNSELING. WE
APPRECIATE THE EXEMPTIONS
WRITTEN IN FOR FLEXIBILITY BUT
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT
PHYSICIANS ALREADY HAVE A DUTY
TO GAIN INFORMED CONSENT. AND
THAT INFORMATION IS PATIENT
SPECIFIC.
I'M GENERIC OR INAPPLICABLE
INFORMATION GIVEN WILL ONLY
SERVE CHAU DIED WORDS
DIMINISHING THE SERIOUSNESS OF
THE CONVERSATION.
DATA SHOWS THAT OVER HALF OF THE
MINERS WHO MISUSE OPIOIDS GET
THEM FROM FRIENDS PARENTS AND
OTHER NON MEDICAL SOURCES.
NOT FROM POSITIONS WITHOUT
WARNING OR INSTRUCTION. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING
CONVERSATIONS AS THERE ARE
NUMBER OF OTHER REALLY POSITIVE
FISH PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THE MOST
CONCERNS
YOU.
THANK YOU JIM GROSS ABOUT THE
CALIFORNIA PHARMACISTS
ASSOCIATION UNFORTUNATELY WE
HAVE AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED IN
RELATES TO THE LABELING
PROVISIONS.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON
THIS COMMITTEE FOR MANY YEARS
ARE AWARE THAT.
A SUBSTANTIAL LEGISLATION WENT
THROUGH AYE REQUIRING VARIOUS
TYPES OF THINGS ON LABELS AND
WERE.
SUBJECT TO A TWO AND A HALF
YEAR REGULATORY PROCESS.
OUT WITH THE THE BOARD OF
PHARMACY.
ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE
HAVE A LOT ON THE LABELS.
I WE DO APPRECIATE THAT THE
SENATOR HAS INSTEAD OF.
HAVING THE BOARD OF PHARMACY
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS
PROPOSES LANGUAGE FROM THE STATE
OF MINNESOTA.
THAT WOULD SIMPLY TELL THE
PHARMACIST THEY MUST FIND A
PLACE
TO PUT A WARNING.
BOB WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THAT
PLACE WOULD GO.
OTHER LABELS TO HAVE MANY
REQUIREMENTS SIZE LANGUAGE
EXCEPT ERA. AND WE JUST DON'T
KNOW HOW THIS WOULD BE
ACCOMMODATED IN OF COURSE.
AT THE ISSUE OF CONSISTENCY.
ARE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS ON THE
LABEL COULD BE AN ISSUE AS WELL.
OUT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE SENATOR ON IT BUT.
THE LABELING ISSUE IS A A VERY
DIFFICULT PROBLEM FOR
PHARMACISTS TO DEAL WITH ALREADY
IN THIS WILL MAKE IT THAT MUCH
MORE COMPLICATED.
SO WE MUST OPPOSE AND BECAUSE OF
THAT THANK YOU.
ASIDE OUR BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
AND THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
CHAIN DRUG STORES WERE ACTUALLY
NEUTRAL ON THE BILL WITH THE
AMENDMENTS WERE THANKFUL THAT
THE SENATOR ACTUALLY TOOK SOME
AMENDMENTS WHICH IN. GROSS JUST
ELUDED HIM HAVE THE PHARMACISTS
ASSOCIATION WHICH OF PARALLELS
OTHER STATE REQUIREMENTS WITH
RESPECT TO LABELING AND AND SO
WE WERE PLEASED THAT SHE TOOK
THOSE AMENDMENTS WERE SO WERE
NEUTRAL ON THE BILL.
VERY GOOD THANK YOU OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION.
SHE NO ONE BRING IT BACK TO THE
OUR COMMITTEE.
.
THE DEFENSE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH JOHN AND
SURVEYS I APPRECIATE.
YOUR EFFORTS AND
TRYING TO ADDRESS ARE OF GOOD
EPIDEMIC AND CERTAINLY I MEAN
IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
YOU KNOW I'D MAKE NOTE THAT.
ACTUALLY PRESCRIBING FOR
OPIOIDS ACTUALLY DROPPED TO
TENURE LOW.
BECAUSE A GREATER AWARENESS AND.
THE PHYSICIAN COMMUNITY AT
ABOUT.
THE CHALLENGES OF OPIOID SO WE
DO WE DO NEED TO.
.
WE ARE. MAKING PROGRESS I THINK.
.
ONE OF MY CHALLENGES ACTUALLY
DIVERSION.
IF YOU EIGHT SO.
SO.
WE ALSO PEOPLE LOS IDENTIFIED
ISSUES FOR EXAMPLE LIKE STANDING
ORDERS.
I WOULD MAKE NOTE THAT.
IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
BECAUSE I AS A PHYSICIAN
PRACTICES HERE INSTEAD OF
CALIFORNIA WHERE I WAS MANDATED.
IF YOU TAKE.
CME COURSE BECAUSE.
WE WERE BEING TOLD US
PHYSICIANS WE WERE PRESCRIBING A
PLEA TO NOT.
WHEELER I I HAD TO SPEND THE
ENTIRE DAY BEING TOLD TO STOP
BEING A WAS. PRESCRIBED MORE.
AND YEAH I THINK THAT WAS.
YOU KNOW I THINK I THINK THAT
THAT.
.
YEAH I I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO
BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE OF THE I
THINK WHAT HAPPENED THERE'S LESS
MUSTN'T CAUTION BECAUSE I'M NOT
SAYING THOUSAND PARALEGAL
REASON.
BUT CERTAINLY.
.
THAT SHIFT ACTUALLY IT'S
INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK.
I'D MAKE NOTE THAT THE.
THE LANGUAGE WHICH WERE GOTCHA.
THE BILL IT IS PLAIN TO THINK.
COMPASS INTO OUR CODE. OF FROM
THE MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA
YOU KNOW THE STATEMENT THAT PAIN
SHOULD BE ASSESSED
AND TREATED PROMPTLY EFFECTIVELY
FOR AS LONG AS THE PAIN
PERSISTS.
I ON THE FACE OF IT OF COURSE
SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE BUT I
THINK SOME I THINK THERE'S SOME
INDICATIONS THAT PERHAPS.
THIS.
.
DESIRE TO TREAT PAIN.
IMMEDIATELY.
THAT.
.
HAS ACTUALLY PERHAPS LETTUCE
WILL BIT DOWN THIS PATH IN FACT
ACTUALLY JUST VERY RECENTLY WE
HAD A BILL I BELIEVE IT'S NOW
LAW. US ACTUALLY
ASSEMBLY NEVER DOCTOR ARAMBULA
ACTUALLY REMOVED PAIN AS THE
FIFTH AS THAT BUT I DON'T SIGN
WHICH WAS OF COURSE BUT AT THE
SAME TIME IS REQUIRED TO TAKE
ALL THE CME ON PAIN BECAUSE YOU
ARE PRESCRIBING OF OPIOIDS.
THE I GUESS I JUST. WANT TO BE
CAUTIOUS ABOUT POLICY THAT.
MAY HAVE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES.
I HAD VIEWS AS A SAID THE DATA
SEEMS TO BE SHOWING THAT.
I'M NOT THAT ARE WE DOING
ENOUGH PROBABLY NOT AT NOT TO
BUT THAT WOULD.
THINGS ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION OPIOID PRESCRIPTIONS
HAVE DROPPED WE HAVE TO WORK
MORE ON THE VERSION WE NEED TO
ADDRESS THE STANDING ORDER
ISSUES WE NEED TO ACTUALLY.
MAYBE RESET PEOPLE'S
EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE WE STILL
BUT WE STILL NEED TO TREAT PAIN
IDEA I DON'T THINK THAT WE GO
AROUND SAYING WE DON'T TREAT
PAIN THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE
GO ABOUT DOING IT. AND WHAT THE
EXPECTATIONS BOTH.
PATIENTS AND PAID THE OFFICERS
AND PATIENTS AND OTHER
PRESCRIBERS HAVE MAGICALLY
PATIENTS HAVE ABOUT WHAT SHOULD
BE DONE ABOUT PAINS RECOGNIZING
THE TRADEOFFS RIGHT. OUT AND ONE
OF THEM IS CERTAINLY ADDICTIONS
SO.
.
A SHEIK IS WHAT I DO HAVE A
QUESTION TERMS IF I'VE NIELSEN
WHAT THE OPPOSITION HAS ADDRESS
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU REMOVED.
CHANGED IT FROM SCHEDULED TO
SOMEONE WHO YOU SOME THE OTHER
SCHEDULED TO MEDICATIONS TO HELP
OUT PATIENTS BECAUSE WE. REALLY
SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE
OPIOIDS.
IN TERMS OF.
YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT
WITH SOME THE OPPOSITION LIKE
CMA AND THE AND THE AND WE AND
THE PHARMACISTS IN TERMS.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE
TO GET TO THAT PLACE OF WHAT
THEM IN TERMS OF RESOLVING THOSE
ISSUES?
WE'RE WORKING ON ADDED IS DOUBLE
REFERRED SO WE'RE THINKING
BETWEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE IF WE
GET APPROVAL HERE WILL DO YOU DO
A DEEPER DIVE INTO HOW WE MIGHT.
OF PUT YOU KNOW WITH THE MODIFY
THE THINGS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC.
BUT I CAN'T SHARE WITH YOU
ENOUGH FONG MY PASSION ABOUT THE
US WE HAD OUT. A TOWN HALL IN
OPIOIDS AND NOW SOUTH COUNTY
WHERE THERE'S A HUGE PROBLEM LA
WITH MANY DRUGS AMONGST OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE. WE HAVE THREE
HUNDRED PARENTS THERE AND IF SO
MANY OF THEM BROUGHT THEIR
CHILDREN AND THEY WERE REALLY
TAKEN BACK WITH THE SERIOUSNESS
OF THE OPIOID ISSUE.
OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I THINK
YOU ALL KNOW I WAS IN THE
HOSPITAL OF FIRST OF LAST YEAR
BECAUSE I GOT ACCOUNT BY. BUT I
WAS GIVEN OXYCONTIN AND SO WAS
MY HUSBAND FOR SOME SURGERY HAD
DONE NOTHING ON THAT LABEL
EXPLAINS ITS ADDICTIVE NATURE.
AND OUR UNDERSTANDING HOW
QUICKLY THAT CAN OCCUR
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE YOU HAVE
VERY VERY ON.
SERIOUS PAIN HA IT'S IT'S QUITE
AMAZING I UNDERSTAND THAT
CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH.
FOLLOW AND I'M TALKING TO A
PEDIATRICIAN THAT'S BECAUSE THE
GROWTH AYE IS SO RAPID THAT THEY
BECOME ADDICTED AND FEEL. JUST A
FEW DOSES OR A FEW DAYS LATER
ON.
SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
SOMETHING THAT SAYS THIS IS
DANGEROUS PERHAPS TO BE
SOMETHING ON THE LABEL IS
CYNTHIA. SIMPLY AS ADDICTIVE
MIDDLE CAUTION ADDICTION OR
ADDICTIVE. LA WITHOUT THAT
PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE THAT THAT
LITTLE PILL THEY'RE GIVEN TO
RELIEVE THAT TERRIBLE PAIN. CAN
PUT THEM IN THE WORST PAIN OF
ALL WHERE THEY CAN'T GET OFF IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M PASSIONATE
ABOUT MOVING FORWARD IN WE
CERTAINLY ARE WILLING AYE AND
CERTAINLY ABLE TO WORK WITH ALL
THE STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT
WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT DOES
EDUCATE. BOTH PRESCRIBERS AND
THINGS THAT WORK FOR THEM BUT
LAW CERTAINLY THOSE PATIENTS WHO
HAVE DEFINITE HE REMEMBERED AND
YOU WOULD DOCTOR PAN. IT WAS
BACK I BELIEVE IN THE EARLY TWO
THOUSANDS WHERE THERE WAS A BIG
CONTROVERSY ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN
ADVERTISE. MEDICATION ARE
BECAUSE THAT PUT A DOCTOR IN A
VERY DIFFICULT POSITION WHEN A
PATIENT COMES IN AND SAYS I NEED
X. Y. Z. DECIDED ON TV
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH. ALL OF THE
ON MEDICATION THE YEAR AFTER
HERE ADVERTISE ON TV NONE OF
THEM GIVE AYE ANY INDICATION
THAT THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS
AND POTENTIALLY ADDICTIVE.
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM
AND WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE
PUBLIC AND THAT WILL HELP I
THINK THE MEDICAL. COMMUNITY IN
THE PROVIDERS OUGHT TO KNOW THAT
IT WAS ONLY SIMPLY HAVE TO SAY
IS. THIS IS ADDICTIVE YOU'RE
ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOU KNOW
FOUR PILLS A DAY THAT'S IT FOR
THREE DAYS. WHATEVER THEY SAY IN
THOSE CONSULTATIONS ON HOW THE
PERSON YOU KNOW SIGN AND THERE'S
SOMETHING ABOUT CONNECTING
SOMETHING YOU DO PHYSICALLY WITH
YOUR BRAIN IT HELPS YOU
REMEMBER.
AND THAT'S BASED ON YOU KNOW
SCIENTIFIC STUDIES SO THINKING
YOU KNOW WE ALL GET TOO MANY
PAPERS SOMEWHERE IN THE DOCTOR'S
OFFICE ALTHOUGH LIABILITY BUT IT
CAN BE SOMETHING LIKE JUST.
YOU KNOW BIG PRINT URGENT SINUS
DANGER WHATEVER WORKS FOR FOUR
OF THE PROVIDERS LINE HAPPY WITH
BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT
DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD SO WE
CAN DO SOMETHING. I TO RAISE THE
AWARENESS FOR THE PERSON WHO'S
GETTING THAT MEDICATION OR
POTENTIALLY THE PARENT WHO'S
GIVING IT TO THEIR CHILD.
WELL I APPRECIATE THAT YOUR
ANSWER I'M YOU KNOW I'VE.
I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THE OPPOSITION.
I'M STILL DECIDING WHAT I'M
GONNA DO ONE INCOMES THAT VOTE
BUT I KNOW THEY DON'T WORK I I I
THINK. I ALSO SAY YEAH I'VE.
AND THIS IS AN ISSUES COME UP
FUNDS COMMITTEE.
LOOK LOW SKEPTICAL ABOUT
MANDATORY CME.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING
THOUGH THAT I'LL TELL YOU THAT
IS OUT THERE.
AND. I THINK THAT THE PHYSICIAN
COMMUNITY OTHER PROVIDERS PUBLIC
HEALTH COMMITTEE RECOGNIZES IS A
CRISIS AND.
AND THAT THERE CERTAINLY.
A LOT OF.
.
EDUCATION GOING ON AND
DISCUSSION GOING ON IN.
AND IN IN THE PROFESSIONAL
COMMUNITY ABOUT WHATWE CAN DO
TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
I THINK I TRULY AGREE WITH YOU
ON THAT TO EXPAND I THINK THAT'S
BEST PRACTICES.
THE FOCUS THAT WE STARTED OUT
WITH THIS BILL IS REALLY ON THE
PATIENT.
THE PERSON WHO'S RECEIVING IF SO
THEY UNDERSTAND TO BE YOU KNOW
HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OBVIOUSLY OF
THE PRESCRIBER. SO I THINK
THAT'S THAT PERHAPS IS THE WAY
WE CAN THREAD THE NEEDLE IS TO
KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE PATIENT
RECEIVING AT. ALL BECAUSE YOU
DIDN'T GO TO HOW MANY FOURTEEN
YEARS OF SCHOOL LOUDER DOCTORS
IN MY FAMILY BY THE WAY. WHO
REMIND ME HOW MUCH EDUCATION?
BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY
TO I HAVE THIS FOCUSED ON THE
PEOPLE WHO RECEIVING INCLUDING
YOURS TRULY. MEAN ONLY KNEW
BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE
HAVE APPEAR THAT NORCAL CAN BE
THREADED WITH THAT NOW. DID NOT
KNOW THAT SO WHEN SOMEONE
OFFERED ME A NOR COPULA SAY NO
THANK YOU BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT THE YOU KNOW THE SOURCE
WAS.
WHERE FROM WENT WHENCE IT CAME
SO ARE NOTHING TO ME IT'S ABOUT
ALL OF US WHO ARE NOT
PROFESSIONALS UNDERSTANDING THE
RISKS THAT ARE INVOLVED? IN
GETTING THAT INFORMATION VERY
DELIBERATELY VERY OPENLY
IN NOT TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT
ARE SO.
REALLY THANK YOU DOCTOR PAN I
WOULD TAKE IT THAT WAS YOUR
CLOTHES SENATE YEAH MICHAEL
IRVIN THANK YOU I I HAD THAT
IDEA. AND I APPRECIATE THAT OUR
CONVERSATIONS AND THE.
THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE
TAKING THE ONE ITEM NUMBER
THIRTEEN ON PAGE THIRTEEN THIS
REGARDING THE.
YOU KNOW THE THE FACT THAT ONLY
ATHLETES WOULD GET THE
INFORMATION AND I THINK WE FELT
THAT IT WOULD.
EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT OR MORE
IMPORTANT FOR THE ENTIRE. SCHOOL
POPULATION AND FOR NOTIFICATION
PERHAPS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED
IN IT AS THE BILL MOVES TO THE
HAPPY TO SUPPORTER TODAY I THINK
YOU'VE RAISED THEM.
CRITICAL ISSUES AND I I
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE CMA'S
COMMENTS AND I HOPE WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND
THE PHARMACIST TO FIND.
SPOT THERE BECAUSE IT IT IS
TRUE AND DOCTOR PENETRATION WE
WE DO.
PROVIDE MANDATE AFTER MANDATE
AND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
IT'S AT LEAST BURDENSOME AS
POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE SO I
ADMITTED THAT HAVE
ENTERTAINMENT.
MOTION BY SENATOR FULLER PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.
ACTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
HEALTH COMMITTEE HILL AYE HILL
AYE FULLER AYE FLORA AYE DODD.
DODD AYE GALGIANI NEWMAN AYE
PAN.
WELL I WILL BUY.
BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL HOLD
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
BATES CREATED.
THANK YOU.
RIGHT HERE NOW.
SURE.
BUT HE ALSO.
LIVE SENATOR WINNERS CENTER
WIENER PLEASE.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I WOULD SAY I
COULDN'T SEE. THAT. THAT I I
KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BEHIND THAT
YEAR HAS HARD TO BELIEVE. WILL
MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN
SP FOURTEEN FORTY TWO SENATOR
WIENER.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AYE MISTER
CHAIRMAN COLLEAGUES.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING OF THIS
BILL ARE TODAY.
.
BOB ALTHOUGH THEY'RE OFTEN
THOUGHT OF AS MERE TECHNICIANS
ARE HOSPITAL PUSHERS.
I CALIFORNIA PHARMACISTS OFF OF
RIGHT OF RYE EIGHTY OF
SOPHISTICATED.
HEALTH CARE SERVICES.
IN TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN THE
STATE BOARD OF PHARMACY ARE
RULED THAT PHARMACISTS ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR CHECKING EACH
PATIENT AGAINST A LENGTHY LIST
OF FACTORS THAT MIGHT INDICATE.
AN OPIOID ADDICTION.
LATER THAT YEAR AYE AND SP FOUR
NINETY THREE BY SENATOR
HERNANDEZ.
WE AUTHORIZED PHARMACISTS TO
VACCINATE OPTICIANS HELP
ADMINISTER HORMONAL
CONTRACEPTION AND PROVIDE
NICOTINE REPLACEMENT PRODUCTS.
UNFORTUNATELY PHARMACY STAFFING
LEVELS HAVE NOT KEPT UP I WITH
THIS DRAMATIC INCREASE IN
RESPONSIBILITY. ABOUT MANY
PHARMACISTS ARE LEFT ALONE FOR
LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
BY AND IT'S ARE QUITE COMMON FOR
PHARMACISTS TO BE.
ALONE AT THE PHARMACY FOR HOURS
OR EVEN THERE. I AM TIRED SHIFT.
WHERE THEY CAN EVEN TAKE A
RESTROOM BREAK?
WAR THEY STRUGGLE TO HAVE
MEANINGFUL CONSULTATION.
WITH CLIENTS HOT BECAUSE THERE
IS NO ONE TO EVEN COVER THE
PHONES ARE THE CASH REGISTER. OR
HOME HELP WITH OTHER
RESPONSIBILITIES.
THEY'RE FORCED TO RUSH THROUGH
SOME OF THESE RESPONSIBILITIES
AND NOT TAKE
OF THE TIME THAT THEY NEED TO
MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS. ARE
AFFORD THESE ARE CLIENTS.
ON WE WOULD NEVER ASK ABOUT
DOCTORS EARNERS PRACTITIONERS TO
WORK COMPLETELY ALONE. I ASK
YOUR PHARMACIST TO DO SO AYE
ENDANGERS PATIENT SAFETY AND IS
SIMPLY NOT GOOD DELIVERY OF
HEALTHCARE. SP FOURTEEN FORTY
TWO WILL GUARANTEE OF AT LEAST
ONE OTHER STAFF PERSON IS
PRESENT IN THE PHARMACY AT ALL
TIMES SO THAT THE PHARMACIST.
AACHEN PERFORM HIS OR HER DUTIES
ARE IN A SAFE EFFECTIVE MANNER.
NOW WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. ARE JIM ERA
BV EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UNITED
FOOD AND COMMERCIAL WORKERS
WESTERN STATES COUNSELOR.
AS WELL AS I TO PHARMACISTS
JEAN DREXLER.
FROM HUNTINGTON BEACH AND
SUZANNE BRADBURY OFF FROM SAN
DIEGO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
WIENER PLEASE BEGIN.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF MY NAME IS JIM ARABY
AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE USC W. WESTERN STATES
COUNCIL.
ON BEHALF OF THE HUNDRED SIXTY
THOUSAND TOTAL MEMBERS AND
SPECIFICALLY ON BEHALF OF OVER A
THOUSAND OF OUR PHARMACY LICENSE
MEMBERS THAT A PHARMACIST.
WHERE I HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOURTEEN FORTY
TWO?
MY UC MEMBER PHARMACIST WITH ME
TODAY WILL MAKE THE CASE FOR THE
BILL. FOR THE BETTER THAN I
CANCEL JUST BRIEFLY MISTER
CHAIRMAN I WANT TO SEE A COUPLE
OF THINGS.
YOU SEE W. IN TWENTY TO TWENTY
EIGHTEEN SURVEYED OUR MEMBER
PHARMACISTS IN THE SURVEY
REVEALED THE FOLLOWING RESULTS.
FROM OVER A HUNDRED PHARMACISTS
IN THE RETAIL SETTING.
EIGHTY THREE PERCENT SAID THEY
ARE LEFT ALONE DURING THEIR
SHIFT.
THE AVERAGE TIME ALONE WAS FOUR
HOURS.
THAT'S HALF A NORMAL WORK DAY.
IN A WHOPPING NINETY ONE PERCENT
RESPONDED THAT BEING LEFT ALONE
IMPAIR THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM
THEIR CORE FUNCTIONS AS A
PHARMACIST.
MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS.
IS BAD FOR PATIENTS.
IT IS BAD FOR PHARMACISTS AND IT
FRUSTRATES THE INTENT OF
STATUTES PASSED BY THIS
LEGISLATURE.
FOR BUSINESS ON PURPOSE TO THE
PHARMACIST ALL ALONE WHILE
SIMULTANEOUSLY REQUIRING THEM.
PERFORM FUNCTIONS LIKE CHECKING
OF GROCERIES FUNCTIONS THAT
SIMPLY DO NOT NEED TO BE DONE BY
LICENSED HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONAL.
MISTER CHAIRMAN NOBODY.
NOBODY WINS WHEN YOUR HEALTH
CARE PROFESSIONALS DISTRACTED.
ON BEHALF OF UFCW THE SPONSORED
S. B. FOURTEEN FORTY TWO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
WITH THAT MISTER CHAIRMAN I
WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU.
SEEN DREXLER FROM HUNTINGTON
BEACH
AND THEN SUSAN BRADBURY FROM SAN
DIEGO TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE
CONTEXT THE COMMENTS THAT I JUST
MADE THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISTER
RICK.
WELCOME.
HELLO MY NAME IS JEAN DREXLER
AND I AM HONORED TO BE HERE
TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
AND ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW
PHARMACISTS AND CO WORKERS.
I'VE BEEN A PHARMACIST FOR
THIRTY FIVE YEARS AND FOR THE
LAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS I'VE
WORKED AT A PHARMACY IN A
GROCERY STORE.
I AM HOPING TO CONTINUE THAT
UNDER THE CURRENT WORKING
CONDITIONS I'M NOT SURE.
I'M ALSO HERE BECAUSE IT IS MY
DUTY AND OBLIGATION AS A
PHARMACIST REPRESENT INDIAN
ADVOCATE FOR MY PATIENTS.
I SAY PATIENT NOT CUSTOMER
BECAUSE PHARMACISTS ARE NOW
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS.
ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
CHANGES TO IMPACT THE SCOPE OF
PHARMACY PRACTICES OCCURRED IN
TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN. WHEN THE
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATOR
LEGISLATURE PASSED A BILL FOR
NINETY THREE.
THIS BILL DEFINES PHARMACISTS AS
PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS WHO ARE
ABLE TO PERFORM CLINICAL
SERVICES.
THIS IS DONE IN AN EFFORT TO
MAKE HEALTH CARE MORE ACCESSIBLE
TO THE PUBLIC.
THE MOST COMMON CLINICAL SERVICE
PROVIDED IS THE ADMINISTRATION
OF IMMUNIZATIONS.
PHARMACISTS GET FLU PNEUMONIA
WHOOPING COUGH SHINGLES AND
OTHER VACCINES. NOW PHARMACISTS
CAN NOT ONLY DISPENSED BUT CAN
FURNISH BIRTH CONTROL.
PHARMACISTS WORK WITH DOCTORS
AND INSURANCE COMPANIES TO
MANAGE MEDICATION THERAPY.
IN THE MIDST OF THE OPIOID
CRISIS PHARMACIST CAN NOW
IDENTIFY PATIENTS AT RISK FOR
OVERDOSE INDISPENSABLE I'D SAY
THE MEDICATION THE LOCKS ON.
PHARMACIST PARTICIPATE IN
PROGRAMS TO MONITOR OPIOID USE
AND COUNSEL USERS ON THE RISKS
AND DANGERS.
PHARMACISTS EXCEPT THESE NEW
DUTIES AND WELCOME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THESE
VALUABLE SERVICES TO THE
COMMUNITY.
ALTHOUGH THIS ALL SOUNDS GOOD IN
THEORY.
THIS EXPANSION OF
RESPONSIBILITIES PRESENTS A HUGE
CHALLENGE TO A RETAIL PHARMACY.
ESPECIALLY ONE IN A GROCERY
STORE.
MANY STORES DO NOT HAVE
DESIGNATED PRIVATE AREAS TO
ADMINISTER CLINICAL SERVICES.
PHARMACISTS ARE EXPECTED TO
INTEGRATE THESE SERVICES INTO AN
ALREADY BUSY WORKLOAD.
THIS IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT
BECAUSE WELL PHARMACY SERVICES
ARE INCREASING. PHARMACY LABOR
AND STOPPING HAVE BEEN
DRASTICALLY CUT.
THE SERVICES TAKE TIME AND
REQUIRE A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF
STAFF SUPPORT.
FOR EXAMPLE PROCESSING AND
MISSED DURING A FLU SHOT TAKES
APPROXIMATELY FIFTEEN MINUTES.
AND IT'S AN INTERRUPTION TO THE
WORK FLOW.
PHARMACIES HAVE DAILY QUOTAS FOR
VACCINES AND ARE REQUIRED TO
PARTICIPATE INCLUDE CLINICS.
IT'S ALL VERY TIME CONSUMING.
DISPENSING BIRTH CONTROL AND THE
LOCKS ON OUR LABOR INTENSIVE
SERVICES AND EVEN THOUGH
PHARMACISTS HAVE BEEN TRAINED.
ONLY IF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
INCORPORATE THE SERVICES INTO
DAILY PRACTICE DESPITE THE NEED
AND DEMAND.
IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE
EMPLOYERS ARE NOT RECOGNIZING OR
ADDRESSING THESE VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUES.
PHARMACIES PATIENTS ARE TREATED
AS CUSTOMERS.
CORPORATE VIEWS THE PHARMACY AT
THE GROCERY STORE NOT A
DRUGSTORE AND TREATS THE
PHARMACY THE SAME AS THE OTHER
DEPARTMENT.
GROCERY MANAGERS OVERWRITE
PHARMACY MANAGERS.
LABOR IS VARIABLE AND DEPENDENT
ON TOTAL STORE SALES.
LABOR DOES NOT CORRESPOND TO THE
NUMBER OF PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED
OR FACTOR IN CLINICAL SERVICES.
EVEN THOUGH PHARMACY SALES
ACCOUNT FOR A LARGE PART OF
STORE SALES. THE LABOR HOURS
ALLOCATED TO THE FARM IS THE ARE
LEFT IN THOSE ALLOCATED TO THE
MEAT DEPARTMENT. THE DELI THE
BAKERY OR STARBUCKS.
THIS STATEMENT IS DISTURBING AND
NOT ACCEPTABLE.
CORPORATE PRESSURES TO INCREASE
SALES AND PROVIDE SERVICES
QUICKER PLACE A PHARMACIST IN
DEMANDING SITUATIONS THAT MAKE
IT DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH
REGULATIONS.
ULTIMATELY IT IS THE PHARMACIST
WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE AND IS THERE
LICENSE ON THE LINE.
THE PHARMACY NEEDS TO BE A
PRIORITY.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN AND WHY I'M
URGING YOU TO SUPPORT STATE BILL
FOURTEEN FORTY TWO.
IT'S AT THE PHARMACY IS SO
UNDERSTAFFED AND THE PHARMACIST
IS SO OVERWHELMED THAT THEY ARE
AFRAID OF MAKING MISTAKES AND
HURTING THEIR PATIENTS.
PHARMACISTS BEING TO BE A
HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE.
THIS ISSUE IS ESPECIALLY
RELEVANT TO ME BECAUSE TWO OF MY
FAMILY MEMBERS WERE VICTIMS OF
MEDICATION ERRORS.
MY SON ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY
ROOM.
AND MY FATHER IN LAW NEVER
RECOVERED AND DIED.
BOTH CASES RESULTED IN
LITIGATION AND CAUSE PAIN AND
SUFFERING.
THROUGH MY EXPERIENCES I CAN
TELL YOU THAT NOW. MORE THAN
EVER OUR PATIENTS NEED AND RELY
ON THE PHARMACIST'S ADVICE AND
GUIDANCE ON MEDICATIONS.
WE NEED ADEQUATE STAFFING TO
GIVEN THE I'M TO TIE.
TO GIVE THEM THE UNDIVIDED
ATTENTION THEY DESERVE.
AS PATIENTS THEY ARE ENTRUSTING
US WITH THEIR LIVES AND ARE
ENTITLED TO THE BEST POSSIBLE
CARE.
THANK YOU
IF YOU.
I.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY MY
NAME IS SUZANNE BRADBURY AND I'M
A PHARMACIST IN SAN DIEGO.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE MORE
FROM THE HEART.
I WAS RAISED IN I WON A VERY
SMALL TOWN MY FATHER WAS A
PHYSICIAN AND MY MOTHER WAS A
NURSE.
I WAS RAISED WITH THE MENTALITY
THAT EVERY PATIENT IS FAMILY.
THE SMALL TOWN THAT I CAME FROM
I KNEW EVERY CUSTOMER AND YOU
THEIR NAME AND TO THEIR
CHILDREN.
WE GREW UP TOGETHER AND THAT'S
HOW I TREAT MY OWN CUSTOMERS AT
MY PHARMACY HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
THEY ARE ALL FAMILY AND THE LAST
THING I WANNA DO IS HURT ONE OF
THEM.
.
I HAVE BEEN AT MY OWN STORE FOR
EIGHTEEN YEARS AND I'VE SEEN THE
CHANGES OVER THE YEARS AND MANY
OF THEM ARE AMAZING.
THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES
THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE. BY
COMPANIES ARE FOR A REASON.
BURKE SPEC DID TO BRING IN
BUSINESS.
I'M ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE MONEY
FOR THE STORE BUT ROSS A
SPECIFIC CARE OF OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND MY PRIORITY IS TO AVOID
MEDICATION ERRORS.
MY STORE IS THE NUMBER ONE
STORE IN MY DISTRICT FOR FLU
SHOTS WE DO THIRTEEN HUNDRED
WALK IN FLU SHOTS AND ABOUT A
SIX TO EIGHT WEEK PERIOD.
I COULD BE UPWARDS OF THIRTY A
DAY THAT ARE NOT PLANNED.
YOU CAN'T REALLY BUDGET FOR
THAT.
AND THAT AS A PRIORITY WHEN
SOMEONE WALKS IN FRONT
IMMUNIZATION THAT GETS MOVED UP
TO THE FRONTLINE.
DURING OCTOBER SEPTEMBER OCTOBER
NOVEMBER I WORK UNTIL ELEVEN
O'CLOCK AT NIGHT JUST TO FINISH
MY JOB.
A NEW POLICIES THAT STARTED A
MONTH AGO IF I STAY PAST NINE
FIFTEEN I GET A VERBAL WARNING
IF I STAY AGAIN.
WRITTEN THEN SUSPENSION THEN
TERMINATION.
SO A SIMPLE POLICY TO AVOID OVER
TIME IS PREVENTING ME FROM
COMPLETING MY JOB EVEN THOUGH
I'M STRIVING TO BE THE NUMBER
ONE STORE.
FOR MY COMPANY.
SO SOMETIMES POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES CONFLICT WITH OUR
CUSTOMER CARE.
SO I'M HERE TO.
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE BILL AND I
WANT EVERYONE TO FOCUS ON THE
FACT THAT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR
ANCILLARY STAFF IT COULD BE A
COURTESY CLERK FROM THE FRONT
THAT'S CROSS TRAINED IT COULD BE
A TECHNICIAN. IT COULD BE A
CLERK.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL
PHARMACISTS TO BE ON STAFF.
FROM MY STORE THAT DOES NINE
HUNDRED PRESCRIPTIONS I HAVE A
TRAVEL CLINIC I DO TRAVEL
IMMUNIZATIONS I'M A SITE TRAINED
PHARMACIST I HAVE TEN PATIENTS
THAT I SEE IN THE CLINIC. A
MONTH FOR INJECTABLE
ANTIPSYCHOTICS.
THOSE CAN BE A TEN MINUTE
CONSULTATION A COULD BE A THIRTY
MINUTE CONSULTATION IF THE
PATIENTS TO COMPENSATE.
ODD SOMEBODY'S FLEXIBILITY AS
ARE NECESSARY AND WHAT WE DO AND
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT
FLEXIBILITY BY HAVING A STAFF
MEMBER AT THE FRONT OF THE STORE
WATCHING OVER THE PHARMACY WHILE
I'M IN THE SEPARATE LOCATION
DOING MY JOB.
SOMETHING.
LIKE SIXTEEN HOURS OF A TECH
HELP WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD BE
REQUIRED FOR MY PARTICULAR STORE
AND I DO NINE HUNDRED SCRIPTS A
WEEK.
EVERY STORE WILL BE DIFFERENT
BUT JUST BY HAVING SOMEONE COME
AND RING AND. CUSTOMERS AT THE
REGISTER. WOULD ALLOW ME TO
FINISH MY JOB IN THE BACK OF THE
STORE.
MAKE SURE I'M SELLING EVERYTHING
APPROPRIATELY MAKE SURE I'M
CHECKING FOR DRUG INTERACTIONS
MAKE SURE I'M GOING INSURANCE IS
PROPERLY MAKE SURE MY DAY SUPPLY
IS CORRECT MAKE SURE THERE'S NO
INSURANCE FRAUD. BECAUSE I
BUILDS A DAY SUPPLYING CORRECTLY
OR ACCIDENTALLY DOUBLE BILLED
SOMETHING AND I DIDN'T CATCH IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF MICROMANAGEMENT
PHARMACY WITH THE OPIOID CRISIS
AND I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD
SOMETHING.
EARLIER TODAY REGARDING THAT WE
WORK CLOSELY WITH THE D. E. A.
OF THE STREET AND WE GET A FRAUD
PRESCRIPTION.
STOPS EVERYTHING.
WE CALL THE D. E. A WE TRY TO
ARREST PEOPLE WE TRY TO FIND THE
CHAIN OF COMMAND. WE ARE NOW THE
POLICE OF NARCOTIC
PRESCRIPTIONS.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE
TO HAVE STAFF TO DO SO.
TO GET THESE PEOPLE OFF THE
STREETS ARE PASSING FRAUDULENT
PRESCRIPTIONS WHICH
UNFORTUNATELY I SEE ON A REGULAR
BASIS.
OTHERS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE
DO OTHER THAN JUST TAKE CARE OF
OUR PATIENTS.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT TO HAVE A SECONDARY
PERSON THERE. OUGHT TO SUPPORT
US OUGHT TO ALLOW US TO NOT
LEAVE OUR PHARMACY ALONE.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE JUMPING
COUNTERS TO GRAB PROMETHAZINE
WITH CODEINE.
AND WERE EXPECTED.
OUR POLICY NOW IS TO WALKER
STORE TEN TIMES A DAY. AND TRY
TO INTRODUCE BUSINESS TO THE
PHARMACY I WOULD LOVE TO DO
THAT.
I WOULD LOVE TO WALK MY STORE
INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SAY HELLO
I'M A SMALL TOWN I WILL GROW I
WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE TO DO
THAT. IF THERE'S NOBODY IN THE
PHARMACY. WHO'S WATCHING THE
PHARMACY.
ALSO SOME OF THESE POLICIES ARE
VERY CONFLICTING. WITH THE WAY
THAT WE RUN OUR BUSINESS THANK
YOU MS BRADBURY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I MY NAME IS SADDAM A PHARMACY
MANAGER DOWN IN SN DIEGO I WORK
PROVIDES PHARMACY AND PART OF
LOCAL.
I ONE THIRTY FIVE AND I'M HERE
TO STRONGLY SUPPORT IS.
BILL ARE THAT ALL ENHANCE
PUBLIC.
SAFETY AND I ENHANCE PATIENTS
ARE.
ISSUE NOW. THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MARK
WINDOWS WITH US HERE YOU
CALIFORNIA AND WE ARE ALSO IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE
AND WE JUST LIKE TO ECHO THE
POINTS. MADE BY UFCW THANK YOU
MR MENDOZA NICE TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU HELLO MEANINGS
UNFAIRLY YA KNOW I'M A GRADUATE
OF USC SCHOOL OF PHARMACY AND A
PHARMACIST FOR BONDS ALBERTSON'S
INCENDIO. MY STRONGLY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THE SPELLING I'M JUST SO
GRATEFUL FOR THAT I THINK YOU.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON ERIC WILLIS WITH
UNITED NURSES ASSOCIATIONS OF
CALIFORNIA UNION OF HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONALS. ARE WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF THE CONCEPT AND WE'VE
ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THAT
CENTER WINNERS OFFICE AND THE
SPONSORING TRYING TO ADDRESS A.
VERY UP THE PIECES OF THE
LANGUAGE THAT WE WANT TO A
CORRECT OURSELVES AND FOR OTHER
PHARMACISTS WE REPRESENT OVER A
FIFTEEN HUNDRED PHARMACISTS IN
CALIFORNIA. AND WE CERTAINLY I
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR
INDEPENDENT JUDGEMENT IS
PROTECTED WHICH COMES WITH
PROTECTING THEIR LICENSES. AND
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY
WITH THE AUTHOR I DO WANT TO
THANK THE SPONSORS OF THE BILL
BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING
WE'VE HEARD TODAY WAS ABOUT.
THE WORKLOAD OF THE PHARMACISTS
AND THE WORKLOAD IS GREAT AND
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT A GOOD
TO PROVIDING MORE OF PHARMACIES
PHARMACISTS PROTECTIONS ARE
BECAUSE SHIRLEY ARE PHARMACISTS
DO NEED MORE.
WORKPLACE PROTECTIONS
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION.
FORWARD.
SEEING NO ONE WILL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE AS SENATOR
DODD.
THE CENTER WIENER AYE.
I LIKE THIS BILL FOR A.
A NUMBER OF REASONS NUMBER ONE
THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ASPECT OF
IT I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW
MANY TIMES.
THAT I'VE BEEN TO A PHARMACY AND
I WANT TO GET SOME GOING BUT
THAT POOR PHARMACIST BEHIND THE.
COUNTER HAS SO MUCH GOING ON.
NOT ABLE TO GET TO ME AND AND.
BUT I IT I GET IT SO I THINK
FROM A SAFETY. AND CONVENIENCE
THIS IS A GREAT BUILT ONE
QUESTION I HAVE AND I'M TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
BUT ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS IS.
.
IS IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO MAKE
IT ILLEGAL.
FOR A PHARMACIST TO SAY.
TO BE ABLE TO SAY I'M SORRY I
CAN'T WORK ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M
HERE BY MYSELF.
I REALLY WORRY ABOUT THE SAFETY
AND CONVENIENCE
ASPECT THE.
THAT THIS REALLY.
THIS BILL GIVES THIS.
AND INITIATIVE.
YEAH YOU KNOW BY ALLOWING.
A PHARMACIST TO HAVE THAT.
YOU KNOW THAT EXCUSE SO I AM I'M
SORRY THERE'S NOBODY ELSE HERE
MAYBE IT'S THAT. YOU LIKE WE HAD
DURING THE FIRES AND.
THE WORKERS COULD EVEN COME IN
AND ADD ALISON YOU GOTTA
PHARMACISTS SAY OOPS I CAN'T BE
HERE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THEIR
MEDICATIONS.
WHERE THEY KNOW?
WHY I THINK THE MAIN WAY OF
ENFORCING THE BILL WHICH IS IF
THERE'S A VIOLATION BY THE STORE
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING
THE FILE?
A COMPLAINT I DON'T THINK WE
WANT THE PHARMACIST TO STOP
WORKING
A MISTER IRVING PRESSURE HIM.
SO YOU KNOW ONE THING IN A WHO.
THE WAY THAT WE WITH THE WAY WE
THINK ABOUT THIS BILLS IF
THEY'RE KNOWINGLY VIOLATING A
STATUTE.
THAT THEN THEN THAT TO BE SOME
SORT OF ENFORCEMENT THAT WE.
REFER IT BACK TO THE PHARMACY
BOARD FOR FOR INVESTIGATION.
THEY REFERRING TO THE QUESTION
AROUND KAMALA EVEN THOUGH IT THE
WAY I READ THE BILL.
.
FIRST OF FIRST OF ALL.
.
THE RED LIGHT OF THE WAY I READ
THE BILL IT WOULD MAKE IT
ILLEGAL FOR A PHARMACIST
DO BE THERE BY HIMSELF SO.
FRANKLY I THINK THAT THE
PROPRIOCEPTIVE THE INSTITUTION.
THE OTHER RETAIL OPERATION.
RESPONSIBLE MAYBE I DIDN'T GET A
RYAN HEAD OF YOUR RIGHT. AND I'M
WRONG BUT.
AYE AYE AYE I'VE JUST GOT A
CONCERN WITH THAT ELEMENT OF THE
BILL THAT.
YEAH.
ERIN ERIN ALSO NOW YOU GOT YOUR
PHARMACIST WALKING OUT NOBODY
GETS BY IRENE WHO I WILL LOOK AT
THE LANGUAGE OF BILL IF IT NEEDS
TO BE MASSAGED THAT THE INTENT.
IS AT THE PHARMACY.
EVEN ONE HELD ACCOUNTABLE THAT
IT WOULD NOT SOMEHOW BE ILLEGAL
FOR THE PHARMACIST TO REMAIN
THERE. UP THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING
TO BE RANDOM SITUATIONS
UNFORESEEABLE OF IT THIS IS A
BALLOT.
MAKES OF THE PERFORMANCE THE
PHARMACIES ARE STAFFING
APPROPRIATELY NOT. PROHIBITING
THE PHARMACIST FOR CONTINUING TO
WORK ON WILL TAKE A LOOK ABOUT
LANGUAGE AND MAKE SURE IT'S
CLEAR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS SAYS
SENATOR NEWMAN. THANK YOU SHARE
SHAREWARE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD.
.
I WILL SAY SO I I AM PROUD TO BE
THE THE CHAIR OF THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON UNLICENSED.
FOR THIS COMMITTEE YEAH I AND WE
HAD INFORMATION HEARING IN
FULLERTON.
I OVER THE BREAK.
AND MISS DREXEL YOU YOU
TESTIFIED AYE I THINK BEYOND
ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THE STRESSES A
EXPERIENCED BY THE GROCERY STORE
PHARMACISTS IN AND BOTH OF THE
WITNESSES TODAY HAVE.
AND SHOULD REITERATED THE YOU
KNOW THOSE STRESSES. ATTITUDE
CENTER DOES POINT WHICH I THINK
IS VALID UNIT YOU KNOW WHAT WE
ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLY A PLANE
WAS
A FULL CREW IS THERE.
AND THAT MAY BE SURE THAT THE.
DID BROAD ANALOGY BUT I THINK
IT'S EQUALLY TRUE THAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S SAFETY.
WE SHOULD ENSURE THAT THE
PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED IN THE
DISPENSATION OF OF.
PRESCRIPTIONS ARE IN A POSITION
TO THOROUGHLY SAFEGUARD THAT
SAFETY AND I DO YOU KNOW IT IS I
THINK APROPOS THAT CENTER BATES
HAD NOPE YOUR BILL. BEFORE US
TODAY IN AND.
DIED.
MAKE NO MISTAKE IT YOU KNOW AND
AND DISTRESS YOU POINT OUT OF
THE YOU KNOW LIVES ARE AT STAKE.
AND WE HAD TO STAY DO HAVE AN
OBLIGATION.
INSOFAR AS AS SP FOUR NINETY
THREE FIVE YEARS AGO ARE
DELIBERATELY EXTENDED I ENROLLED
PHARMACISTS INTO.
IDEALLY INTO CREATING A DO YOU
KNOW IMPROVE ACCESS TO
HEALTHCARE.
AND BY DOING THAT WE WE HAVE AN
OBLIGATION AS STATE TO ENSURE
THAT THOSE PROFESSIONALS
INVOLVED IN THAT CARE. ARE
PROBABLY SUPPORTERS SHOWED IDEA
AGAIN.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD BILL I
THINK IT'S COMMONSENSE
LEGISLATION AND I WILL BE VOTING
PROBABLY FOR TODAY.
THANK YOU SENATOR NEWMAN SENATOR
HERNANDEZ PROBABLY PROBABLY OUT.
I DON'T SEE THAT.
YEAH WE CAN TELL AND WHY I AM
GOING TO BE VOTING FOR THE BILL
NOT PROBABLY
I SAID PROUDLY OPRAH PROUDLY
ATTENTION I THOUGHT WITHIN A.
I SPEECH IMPEDIMENT AYE I WAS IT
WOULD PROBABLY.
BROWN I SAID PROBABLY AND HE AND
JOHN WAS MAKING FIVE BROWN EYES
AND BROWN.
HI WE GOT IT NOW THANK YOU
NEWMAN. DOCTOR AND YEAH SO LET
ME LET ME JUST REITERATE WHAT.
THE PHARMACIST SAID ABOUT WHAT
HER RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND
IT'S JUST AMAZING THAT.
IF THEY'RE THERE.
BY THEMSELVES AND I HAD NO IDEA
THAT BUT NINETY PERCENT OF THE
PHARMACIST SOMETIMES ARE THERE
BY THEMSELVES.
NOT ONLY DO THEY SEE THE
PATIENT TO THE VACCINATIONS
FILLED THE PRESCRIPTIONS GET THE
AUTHORIZATION DO THE BUILDING.
THEN DEAL WITH OPIOID.
OR IF THERE'S A DE A THE
AFTERNOON JACK. I MEAN THAT'S
THAT'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
FOR ANYBODY DOING ANY KIND OF
JOB. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WITH
THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS ARE
ENTERING THE HEALTH CARE.
ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE WHEN I
INTRODUCED FOR NINETY THREE IT
WAS TO BRING PHARMACISTS TO BE
ABLE ALLOW THEM BECOME
PROVIDERS.
TO BE ABLE TO BE INTRICATE PART
OF THE PRIMARY CARE HELPING.
BUT KNOWING THAT IS IT WAS NEVER
INTENDED TO FOR PHARMACISTS DO
EVERYTHING'S ALRIGHT UNHOLY
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND I HOPE
THAT WE GET TO THE POINT THAT
THERE'S ENOUGH.
STAFF THEY CAN STAFF THE
PHARMACISTS SO THAT THEY CAN DO
AND BE MORE INTEGRATED INTO THE
PRIMARY CARE SO OF COURSE I'M
SUPPORTING THE BILL.
THANK YOU SENATOR HERNANDEZ
SENATOR GLAZIER.
VERY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE
THAT AND WE WILL TAKE THAT
RECOMMENDATION AND THAT THE.
THE MOVING OF THAT BILL A
SENATOR WHEN I KNOW WE TALKED
EARLIER TODAY IN AND OF THE ONE
OF THE ISSUES AND I THINK THANK
YOU FOR. ADDRESSING SENATOR
DODGE CONCERN AS IT MOVES OF
ALSO THE ISSUE OF GOING TO BE
LOOKING AT MOM AND POP AND SMALL
PHARMACIES AND EXEMPTION FOR
THOSE PHARMACISTS SO THAT THE
FARMERS CAN. INDEPENDENTLY MAKE
THAT DECISION DETERMINATION
WHETHER TO BE PART OF THE STERN
KNOWLEDGE. AND RIGHT WERE HAPPY
SO.
TO ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT WILL
WORK ON IT RIGHT NOW WONDERFUL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE HAVE A
MOTION FROM SENATOR GLACIER.
WHICH VOLATILE.
ACTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HELD
HIGH HILL AYE FULLER. DODD I
THOUGHT I GALGIANI LASER. GLAZER
AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ AYE
NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE PAN AYE PAN
AYE WILK.
WITH SIX VOTES WILL HOLD THE
ROLE OPEN FOR AFTER MEMBERS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH VERY MUCH.
I ALRIGHT WE WILL USE THOSE
SENATOR GLAZIER WHAT YOU'D LIKE
TO PRESENT.
MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.
S. B.
THIRTEEN OH FIVE SENATOR
GLAZERS.
INDEED YOU BRING AN ANIMAL SHE
CAN DEMONSTRATE THE
.
MISTER CHAIRMAN.
CHAIRMAN.
.
FIND A HALF OF.
JACKSON.
COCOA.
WALLY IN BOB.
WELL.
BOBO.
SEE ME.
A V. PENNY AND CHARLIE.
PLEASED TO PRESENT THIS
IMPORTANT BILL REGARDING
EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE.
FOR DOGS AND CATS.
THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW A
CALIFORNIA'S FIRST RESPONDERS
PROVIDE BASIC FIRST DAY ON A
VOLUNTARY BASIS
TO AN INJURED DOG OR CAT AT THE
SCENE OF AN EMERGENCY.
PRIOR TO TRANSFERRING THAT
ANIMAL TO A VETERINARY CARE
FACILITY.
I IMPORTANTLY THIS BILL PROTECTS
FIRST RESPONDERS BY MAKING IT
EXPLICIT. THAT THEY'RE NOT
LIABLE FOR CIVIL DAMAGES.
PER SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL
PROSECUTION.
PROFESSIONAL DISCIPLINARY ACTION
FOR ADMINISTERING BASIC FIRST
DAY.
TWO DOGS AND CATS
MANY STATES HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED
THESE LAWS COLORADO WAS FIRST TO
PASS ONE IN TWO THOUSAND
FOURTEEN FOLLOWED BY OKLAHOMA.
AND ALL TWENTY TWO STATES NOW
ALLOW FIRST RESPONDERS TO
PROVIDE AID ANIMALS WITHOUT FEAR
OF PROSECUTION.
AFTER WORKING WITH COMMITTEE
STAFF IN THE CALIFORNIA
VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
OF MY BILL INCLUDE SOME
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS THAT AIM TO
SIMPLIFY THE LANGUAGE AMERICA
BUILT. THE DAM JOINED BY MY
CONSTITUENTS SHAKER.
A VETERINARIAN WITH THIRTY FIVE
YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE TRI
VALLEY WHO BROUGHT US THE IDEA
FOR THE BILL. AND THE TH ANNUAL
PARTNER.
BATTALION CHIEF IN THE UC DAVIS
FIRE DEPARTMENT I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE SKINNER
GLAZER THANK YOU HIT IT IT'S
AMAZING HOW. YOU WOULD NOT OF
THOUGHT THIS WAS A PROBLEM THAT
HAD TO BE.
RESOLVE BY LEGISLATION BUT IT
CERTAINLY ISN'T SO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING FORWARD THINKING THIS
CHECKLIST. REQUESTED WELCOME
THANK YOU.
A IS A SENATOR SENATOR MENTIONED
I AM VETERINARIAN.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT FOR
THE LAST TEN YEARS I'VE BEEN
INVOLVED IN DISASTER RESPONSE
FOR ANIMALS.
FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS I'VE
SERVED ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF OUR LOCAL FIRE DISTRICT.
AND I MENTION MY BACKGROUND
POINT OUT THAT.
I KNOW RESPOND YEARS VERY WELL
FIRST RESPONDERS AND I KNOW
THEY'RE CAPABLE OF ADMINISTERING
BASIC FIRST AID TO ANIMALS. ARE
ALSO KNOW THAT THE VAST MAJORITY
WANT TO OFFER THAT SERVICE TO
ANIMALS IN IN IN EMERGENCY
SCENES.
OUR I ALSO KNOW THAT VET
PROFESSIONAL VETERINARY CARE IS
RARELY.
AVAILABLE AT AN EMERGENCY SCENE.
IN WHAT I DO THAT INTO AT THIS
POINT IS IS IN THE.
OFTEN ILLUSTRATION THIS JUST TO.
INDUSTRY MIKE MY POSITION.
OUT WE HAD A HOUSE FIRE IN OUR
DISTRICT.
LAST MONTH.
OUR CREWS WERE ABLE TO SAVE MOST
OF THE HOUSE.
IT DESPITE THEIR BEST EFORTS
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SAY THE
DOG THAT WAS TRAPPED IN THE
HOUSE.
THE HOMEOWNERS IN THIS CASE.
LOSSES SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT
PORTION OF THEIR HOME.
UP BUT THEY WERE MOST DISTRAUGHT
OVER THE LOSS OF THEIR LABRADOR
RETRIEVER.
.
HER NAME IS VIOLET NIGHT. ARE.
YEAH I WAS NOT AT THE FIRE OF
WITH THE NEXT DAY I COULD SEE
THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS INVOLVED
WERE MOVED BY THE OUTPOURING OF
APPRECIATION FROM THESE
HOMEOWNERS.
IN REGARDS TO THE EFFORTS THAT
THE FIREFIGHTERS HAD MADE TO SAY
VIOLENCE.
A THE SEASONED FIREFIGHTERS.
WERE VISIBLY EMOTIONALLY MOVED
AYE AYE OR VIOLENCE PASSING.
AND TO THEM IT WAS IT WAS WOULD
NEED INCONCEIVABLE THAT THEY
WOULD NOT TRY TO REVIVE.
VIOLET ONCE REMOVED FROM THE
STRUCTURE FIRE.
YEAH BUT THE LEGAL THING FOR
THESE FIREFIGHTERS TO DO.
WOULD HAVE BEEN TO REMOVE
VIOLET FROM THE STRUCTURE AND
THEN CENTER TO A VETERINARIAN
FOR CARE.
WITHOUT ANY BASIC FIRST DAY.
MY ARM VIOLET NOW DIDN'T GIVEN
DIDN'T SURVIVE THIS INCIDENT BUT
HER ONLY CHANCE AT SURVIVAL
WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST FIRST AID
ON SCENE AYE AYE I MEAN ANYTHING
LASSEN SHE'S WAS GOING TO MAKE
IT.
EVEN IF IT TAKEN AS LITTLE AS
FIVE OR TEN MINUTES TO TRANSPORT
HER TO A VETERINARIAN AT THAT
TIME TRASK DRAMATICALLY REDUCE
FOR HER LIKELIHOOD OF SURVIVAL.
IT HAD BY WHAT BEEN A PERSON.
NOT PROVIDING BASIC FIRST AID
AT THE SCENE WOULD BE
INCONCEIVABLE ARMED TO OUR PETS
I THINK ARE TOO IMPORTANT NOT TO
GIVE THEM THEIR BEST SHOT AT
SURVIVAL AND I URGE. A YES VOTE
PER.
S. B. NOT THIRTEEN OH FIVE AND
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS
TRIGGER THANK YOU APPRECIATE THE
TESTIMONY.
PLEASE GOOD AFTERNOON AFTERNOON.
MENEM'S THEY HARDENED HER ON
THAT SHE FOR THE UC DAVIS FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE SERVICE
FOR ABOUT TWENTY.
I CAN'T MY ATTENTION LAST YEAR
THAT THE MINISTRIES OF AUCTION
THE PETS BY MERGERS FUNDERS WAS
LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA AND MUCH
LIKE YOU TO SPOE TO AND THOSE
VERY AS FIXED PRICE WAS ALL.
AT A PRACTICE IS VERY COMMON IN
MY FIELD KNICKERS ON A REGULAR
BASIS ANIMAL SUPPORT GROUPS EVEN
BY THE PLACEMENT OF HAD SIZE
AUCTION ADMINISTRATION MASKS ON
FIRE ENGINES AND MINUTES MANY
CITIES INCLUDING SACRAMENTO.
AND.
IS IT WAS A BIG SURPRISE ME AND
OTHER FRAZIER SPOTTERS THAT THIS
ACT WAS ILLEGAL.
ANIMALS CAN EASILY BECOME
TRAPPED IN INJURED HOMES WHEN
THEY CATCH ON FIRE FIREFIGHTERS
ARE OFTEN ABLE TO RESCUE INJURED
ANIMALS FROM FIRES AND THEN WE
WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN. TO
TREAT THEIR INJURIES.
UNDER CURRENT LAW WE CAN'T HELP.
I MERGERS FUNDERS HAVE THE
UNENVIABLE CHOICE TO BREAK THE
LAW AND SAVE AN ANIMAL OR AT THE
ANIMAL INITIALLY DIE.
I WAS FACED WITH THIS EXACT
CHOICE THIS PAST YEAR FIVE CATS
WERE TRAPPED IN THE SMOKEHOUSE
FIRE WHICH STRUGGLING TO
BREATHE.
I'M NOT WILLING TO LET THE
ANIMAL SUFFER WE ENDED UP
ADMINISTERING OXYGEN.
WITH THE SAME EQUIPMENT CARRIED
ON FIRE ENGINES ACROSS THE STATE
WE'RE ABLE TO TREAT THE CATS AND
SEND THEM ON THE WAY TO SEE
ABOUT.
FAR BETTER SHOULDN'T HAVE TO
RISK THEIR MEDICAL LICENSES A
POTENTIAL LEGAL PENALTIES TO
SAVE THE LIVES OF INNOCENT
ANIMALS NASTY OPUS FIX THIS
PROBLEM.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
APPRECIATE. YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
THE COURT OF AMENDED MISTER
CHAIR ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
A CRISTINA CARO REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA VETERINARY MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION WITH THE SUPPORT OF
AMENDED POSITION WE WANT TO
THANK SENATOR GLAZER IN HIS
STAFF AND SPONSORS FOR TAKING
THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE IN THE
SENATE HEALTH COMMITTEE WE THINK
THEY WENT A LONG WAY TO
STRENGTHEN. STRENGTHENING THE
BILL. AYE AND THEN WE CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH THE SENATOR AS.
MISTER GAGE DID AN EXCELLENT
ANALYSIS OF THE BILL.
POINTED OUT SOME OF THE
REMAINING TASKS IN THE BILL THAT
WE HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH. A BUT
TALKS DO CONTINUE THEY CONTINUED
AS OF ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF
AGO. AND SO I I PLEDGE THAT WE
WILL BE ABLE TO GET THERE AND SO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER
ENGINEER VERY MUCH FOR THE
TESTIMONY.
AND MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
JENNIFER FEARING ON BEHALF OF
THE SAN DIEGO MAIN SOCIETY AND
THE SAN FRANCISCO SPCA WHICH DID
IN FACT. RECENTLY CONCLUDE A
FUNDRAISER THAT LED TO THE
OUTFITTING OF SEVENTY.
OF FIRE AND AMBULANCE.
BEFORE VEHICLES IN THE CITY OF
SAN FRANCISCO SO WE STRONGLY
URGE YOUR SUPPORT YOUR THINK
YOU.
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN WAS CHRIS
MCKINLEY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA AMBULANCE ASSOCIATION
WILSON SUPPORT GOOD THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION.
SEEN AND HEARING NO ONE BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
CONVERSATIONS SENATOR NEWMAN
CHARGE WE HAD LOW FUN LAST TIME
AND AND AND I WANT TO SAY THIS
TIME TO KEEP OUR YOU KNOW THANK
YOU I MEAN ALL KIDDING ASIDE.
.
TO SAVE SOMEBODY'S PAT AS NOTED
AROUND IS A WONDERFUL THING AND
TO BE PREVENTED FROM DOING THAT
IS IS.
IS TRAGIC AND SO I CENTER GLAZER
ACHIEVE AYE I SALUTE YOU FOR
BRING THIS FORWARD SOMETIMES WE
COMMONSENSE THINGS TO MAKE A
REVISED BETTER THIS IS ONE OF
THOSE THINGS THANK.
OTHER COMMENTS QUESTION NO WE
HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR PENN
LIKE CLOTHES SENATOR GLAZERS
THAT MISSED HERE SIXTY EIGHT
PERCENT OF HOUSEHOLDS HAVE A PET
ABOUT EIGHTY MILLION IN THE
UNITED STATES. THERE JUST AS
VULNERABLE AS PEOPLE IN NATURAL
DISASTERS AND WITH THAT ON
BEHALF OF JACKSON COCOA LOLLY.
.
WALDRON ABOUT BUBBA.
STEAMY AB PENNIES CHARLIE AND
WHAT WAS YOUR BEST WHITE. I ASK
I ASK YOU VERY HIGH.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW YOUR
THEY FOR THE REST OF HER AND I
VOTE I ASSUME.
IN IT IN HIS MEMORY IN HIS
MEMORY.
SENATE MEMBER THIS SO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.
QUESTION IS DO YOU PASSED THE
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
HEALTH I. TELL AYE FULLER.
FULLER AYE DODD AYE DODD AYE
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER AYE LASER
AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ AYE
NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE PAN LETTERS.
I'M NICE AND I WELL. NAY.
NO I.
I WILL DIE.
EIGHT VOTES WILL HOLD THE
ROLLOVER FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
FOR THE TESTIMONY.
MOVE NOW DR BEN.
THE VICE.
OKAY.
WE WERE DOWN.
DOCTOR BEEN WE'RE MOVING TO ITEM
NUMBER TEN S. B. FOURTEEN ZERO
EIGHT.
PLEASE PROCEED I THINK YOU.
IF YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS
I SP FORTINO EIGHT MAKES TO
CHANGES THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
CODE DEL FURTHER PROTECT
CALIFORNIANS FROM NON FIRE SAFE
CIGARETTES.
TWO THOUSAND FOR THAT THE TWO
THOUSAND FIVE PASSAGE OF THE
CALIFORNIA CIGARETTE FIRE SAFETY
AND FIREFIGHTER PROTECTION ACT
CIGARETTES SOLD IN OUR STATE
HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO MEET
CERTAIN IGNITION STANDARDS.
CIGARETTES MEETING THE STANDARDS
KNOWN AS REDUCED IGNITION
STRENGTH OR FIRE SAFE CIGARETTES
ARE DESIGNED TO EXTINGUISH WERE
NOT BEING ACTIVELY SMOKED.
PRIOR TO THE PASSAGE OF THE ACT
CIGARETTES WITH A LEASING
LEADING CAUSE A FIRE DEATH. IN
THE UNITED STATES EACH YEAR WITH
OVER A THOUSAD LIVES LOST IN
FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN
DIRECT PROPERTY DAMAGE ANNUALLY.
PASSAGE OF STATE LAWS
PROHIBITING NON FIRE SAFE
CIGARETTES IS BELIEVED TO BE ONE
THE PRINCIPAL REASONS FOR A
THIRTY PERCENT DECLINE IN
SMOKING RELATED FIRED THAT'S WE
SAW NATIONWIDE. BETWEEN TWO
THOUSAND THREE TWO THOUSAND
ELEVEN HOWEVER DESPITE SKUS
SUCCESS OF THE FIRE SAFETY ACT
TWO LOOPHOLES ARE REMAINS WHICH
HAVE HINDERED OUR ABILITY TO
KEEP NON FIRE SAFE CIGARETTES
BEING DISTRIBUTED IN CALIFORNIA.
THE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT S. B.
FORTINO EIGHT WOULD MAKE TO THE
FIRE SAFETY ACT WILL CLOSE THOSE
LOOPHOLES AND FURTHER PROTECT
OUR RESIDENTS
THE DANGERS OF DEADLY FIRES
CAUSED BY CIGARETTES.
FIRST S. B. FORTINO EIGHT WILL
MAKE TECHNICAL CHANGES BY DID.
BEAMING NON FIRE SAFE CIGARETTES
AS CONTRABAND PER SE.
THIS CHANGE WILL ALLOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO MERELY
SEES THESE UNSAFE PRODUCTS WHEN
THEY ARE BROUGHT INTO OUR STATE.
SECOND S. B. FORTINO IT WILL
ELIMINATE AN EXCEPTION THAT
CHROMIUM EXISTS IN LAW WHICH
ALLOWS NON FIRE SAFE CIGARETTES
IN THE CALIFORNIA. JUST SO LONG
AS THE MANUFACTURE CLAIMED THAT
THEY WERE INTENDED FOR SALE IN
ANOTHER STATE.
THIS PROVISION MAY HAVE MADE
SENSE WAS WHEN MANY STATES STILL
ALLOW THE SALE OF THESE PRODUCTS
HOWEVER NOW THESE PRODUCTS ARE
BANNED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WE
MAY ELIMINATE THIS LEUPOLD
ALLOWED. MANY FACTORS IT
INTRODUCED THEIR UNSAFE PRODUCTS
AND TO OUR STATE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK WHEN I VOTE AND
WE AND I'M PLEASED TO HAVE THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AS DEPUTY
ATTORNEY GENERAL CHARLES HARVEY.
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT THIS BILL
THANK
THANK YOU DOCTOR PIN.
PLEASE PROCEED.
COMMITTEE A TROUT FARM IN BEHALF
OF THE OFFICE
ATTORNEY GENERAL HAVE YOU
ETCETERA.
SPONSOR THIS BILL.
MY PARTY'S RIGHT PROVIDING THE
MEDIA COMMITTEE WITH THE LETTER
KNOW THAT ONE IS FORTHCOMING NO
I REALLY I THINK AFTER PAN OUT
FOR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND
FOR OTHER. IMPORTANT BILL. A AS
HE SAID IT BEFORE HIM AWAKE.
AMEND CALIFORNIA'S HEALTH AND
SAFETY CODE.
TO ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
SEIZE IS NOT FIRE SAFE
CIGARETTES.
IT WAS NOTED THAT CIGARETTE
FIRE SAFETY AND FIREFIGHTER
PROTECTION ACT REQUIRES THEY GET
FOR SHORT. A PASSING TO THOUSAND
FIVE WAS INTENDED TO PROHIBIT
CIGARETTES BEING SOLD IN
CALIFORNIA LESS THE MAKER.
CERTIFIES THAT THAT THEIR
PRODUCTS MANUFACTURED AND TESTED
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ESTABLISH
NATIONWIDE INITIAL AS THE
SANDERS SECTOR PAN JUST
MENTIONED.
SO THOSE CIGARETTES THAT MEET
THOSE DOESN'T STAND A SHOULD
ACTION EXTINGUISHED WHEN THEY
ARE NOT IN ACTIVE USE.
NON BUYERS THE CIGARETTES.
ON THE CONTRARY AS THEY IGNITED
WHEN.
THEY ARE NOT AND I CAN USE THE
PRESENT HIGH RISK OF STARTING
FIRES.
AND SO DESPITE THE LEGISLATURE'S
INTENT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS UNABLE
TO TO SEIZE.
BE CIGARETTES RIGHT NOW
PRECLUDE REASONS.
KNOW THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE
CONSTITUTIONAL DUE PROCESS SO.
YOU KNOW WE WANT TWO
APPROPRIATELY REDEFINE THESE
GOODS AND ENABLE LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO EFFECTUATE LEGISLATIVE INTENT
FIRE SAFETY ACT.
AND AND OF COURSE AGAIN THE
OUTDATED.
OUT OF STATE EXCEPTION.
WHICH INITIALLY CREATED A
LOOPHOLE FOR SELLERS TO.
LEE CIGARETTES TO CLAIM THE
PRODUCTS ARE DESTINED FOR NOT AS
THE MARKET.
NOT THE TIME.
THE FIRES THAT THE ACTORS
PASSED TWO THOUSAND FIVE WAS
ONLY NEW YORK AND VERMONT AS THE
OTHER STATES.
THAT IT IMPLEMENTED FIRE SAFETY
AUTHORED BY STATE THE LOS.
AND SO.
AS WAS STATED.
THIS IS OUT OF THE PROVISION OF
COURSE MADE SENSE BACK THEN BUT.
TO ALLOW FOR THE PAST TWO
TRANSPORTATION OF THESE
CIGARETTES BUT OF COURSE NOW IS
IS NO LONGER NECESSARY AND SO.
CONSEQUENTLY AS THE FOURTEEN
AWAY WHICH STRIKE THIS OUTDATED
PROVISION AND MAKE CLEAR THAT
THIS LOOPHOLES NO LONGER
AVAILABLE TO THE SELLERS.
SO WE RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR AYE
VOTE I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE
BARRY ELVES DEPUTY ATTORNEY
GENERAL WITH THE DOJ'S TOBACCO
LITIGATION ENFORCEMENT SECTION.
OF THE BILL WOULD ANSWERING ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS RIGOR THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ADJUSTMENT DO YOU
HAVE COMMENTS.
PERFECT THANK YOU. ARE THE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION.
YOU KNOW THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN. THOUGHT
OF THIS IS VERY GOOD SO THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
NEWMAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
DR. EXCEPT THE ASTRONAUT THERE A
GOOD THANK YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
SHE HAS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HILL
AYE HILL AYE FULLER.
FULLER I DONT.
GOD I GALGIANI GLAZER. GLAZER
AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ AYE
NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE PAN AYE AND I
WILL.
WITH SEVEN VOTES WILL HOLD THE
ROLE OF ATTRACTION MEMBERS THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TESTIMONY.
TODAY.
SENATOR FULLER. ITEM NUMBER
TWELVE.
S. B. FOURTEEN FIFTY ONE OUR
FINAL ITEM.
OF THE AGENDA.
WE CAN GET PROBABLY TO SOME
QUESTIONS BUT. US SENATE BILL
FOURTEEN FIFTY ONE. A RELATES
THE SALE OF CANNABIS TO MINORS
AND BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES.
IS IT.
MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A
MINIMUM.
A.
.
LIKE A FLOOR FOR MAKING SURE
THAT.
CANNABIS IS NOT SOLD TO MINORS.
WE IF IT ALLIANCE WITH.
.
THE CURRENT LAW.
AND.
.
WE REALLY FEEL THAT. IF WE
DON'T.
IF WE DON'T AT THIS THAT.
IT MIGHT GIVE SWEPT UNDER THE
RUG FALL QUICKLY READ A FEW
THINGS AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH
IT BUT.
AND IF FOURTEEN FIFTY ONE SIX TO
IMPOSE A MINIMUM PENALTY
STANDARD ON ANY LICENSEE WHO
SELLS OR PERNICIOUS CANNABIS OR
CANNABIS PRODUCTS TO PERSONS
UNDER THE LEGAL AGE. WORK
SPECIFICALLY. THINKING ABOUT
EDIBLES.
BECAUSE WE'RE FINDING THAT THERE
WAS A.
POLAND IN. OTHER STATES
ESPECIALLY COLORADO WITH ANIMALS
AND CHILDREN.
AND FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF
PROP SIXTY FOR THE MEDICINAL AND
ADULT USE CANNABIS REGULATION
AND SAFETY ACT.
WAS INACTIVE TO REGULATE
COMMERCIAL MEDICINAL AND AN
ADULT USE CANNABIS ACTIVITIES.
UNDER THIS ACT PERSON MAYBE
ISSUE THE RETAIL EISEN'S AND A
MICRO BUSINESS LICENSE. FOR
COMMERCIAL ADULT USE AND
MEDICINAL.
CANNABIS ACTIVITY.
THE ADULT USE CANNABIS IS
LIMITED TO PERSONS TWENTY ONE
YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.
THE MEDICINAL CANNABIS CAN ONLY
BE PURCHASED BY AN INDIVIDUAL
WHO IS EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE OR
OLDER. WITH A PHYSICIAN'S
RECOMMENDATION FOR HIMSELF FOR.
FOR A PERSON FOR WHOM HE OR SHE
IS A PRIMARY CAREGIVER.
THE BUREAU OF CANNABIS CONTROL
IS PRESENTLY AUTHORIZED TO
SUSPEND OR REVOKE A LICENSE.
FROM PORT ANY ACT CONSTITUTING
GROUNDS FOR DISCIPLINARY ACTION
INCLUDING ILLEGAL CANNABIS
SALES.
IN DETERMINING WHAT PENALTY TO
IMPOSE IN A GIVEN CASE THE
BUREAU OF CANNABIS CONTROL MAY
CONSIDER A MULTITUDE OF FACTORS.
THE BUREAU RECENTLY ADOPTED
GUIDELINES TO PROMOTE
CONSISTENCY IN DISCIPLINARY
ORDERS AGAINST CANNABIS
BUSINESSES WHICH HAVE VIOLATED
THE LAW HOWEVER. DISCIPLINARY
DISCIPLINARY ACTION IS TAKEN AT
THE BUREAU'S DESCRIPTION.
THE SP FOURTEEN FIFTY ONE GOES
BEYOND THE BUREAU'S GUIDELINES
BY MANDATINGA MINIMUM PENALTY
ON ANY LICENSEE. WHO SELLS OR
PERNICIOUS CANNABIS OR CANNABIS
PRODUCTS
TO A PERSON UNDER THE LEGAL AGE?
THOSE MAYOR THE CURRENT OF FOR
ALCOHOL.
PACIFIC PENALTIES.
FOR UNDER AGE SALES INCLUDE A
FIFTEEN DAYS SUSPENSION OF
RETAILER LICENSE FOR THE FIRST
VIOLATION.
TWENTY FIVE DAY SUSPENSION FOR A
SECOND VIOLATION OCCURRING AT
THE SAME PREMISES WITHIN THIRTY
SIX MONTHS.
REVOCATION OF LICENSE FOR THIRD
VIOLATION OCCURRING ON THE SAME
PROMISES WITHIN THIRTY SIX
MONTHS.
A SP FOURTEEN FIFTY ONE DOES NOT
PROHIBIT A BUREAU FROM PROVOKING
A LICENSE PRIOR TO THE FIELD.
VIOLATION.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT THESE ARE MINIMUM PENALTIES
TO BE IMPOSED.
THEY DO NOT PRECLUDE ANY
ADDITIONAL.
THE PLAN AREA ACTIONS TO BE
TAKEN BY THE BUREAU FOR THESE
ACTS.
I ALSO.
AND HAVE WITH ME TODAY JOHN
RUNDLE FROM THE CALIFORNIA PEACE
OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION WHO SUPPORTS.
DEAR THANK YOU SENATOR FULLER
AND YOU DID NOT MENTION THE
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAD
WE WILLING TO ACCEPT THOSE YES
REVIEW THANK YOU.
PLEASE PROCEED AFTERNOON MISTER
CHAIRMAN MERSHON NUMBER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION A MEMBERSHIP OF OVER
SIXTEEN THOUSAND LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS ACROSS THE STATE WHO.
THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT WE HAD IN
IN THE.
.
PRESENTS AN ULTIMATE.
PASSAGE OF PROP SIXTY FOUR WAS
WAS TWO FOLD WAS THE IMPAIR
DRIVING PIECE AND THE YOUTH
ACCESS.
AND SO WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A
SMART APPROACH AS A CENTER
MENTIONED WITH REALLY PROVIDING
SOME SMART AND MINIMAL
CONSEQUENCES THAT THE BILL BE CC
STILL HAS. A AN OPPORTUNITY TO.
TO WEIGH IN ON A ESPECIALLY
WITH THAT.
STUDIES SHOW THAT.
UP AROUND EIGHTY PERCENT OF
YOUTH CENTER IN DRUG TREATMENT
PROGRAMS ARE THERE BECAUSE OF
MARIJUANA ADDICTION.
AND SO IT'S AN APPROACH LIKE
THIS TO HOLD BUSINESSES
ACCOUNTABLE IN THE COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS WORK WITH. THAT THEY.
.
TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT AND KEEP
SAFE THAT THIS PROVIDES WHAT WE
FEEL IS A CLEAR APPROACH.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
MEASURE AND AND DO WE CAN TO.
HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS TO MOVE
BEFORE BUT ASH FOR SPORT WHO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF THE
TESTIMONY OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION.
YOU KNOW ONE BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS
QUESTIONS CONCERNS YES SENATOR
NEWMAN.
THE MOTION FROM SENATOR NEWMAN.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE SENATOR
FULL.
I'M I JUST STEM ASK YOUR HELP IN
MAKING OUR CHILDREN SAFER THANK
YOU THANK YOU VICE CHAIR FULLER.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
QUESTION AS TO PASS AS A MINUTE
PREPARATIONS COMMITTEE DELPHI
HILL AYE FULLER.
FULLER AYE DODD.
GOD AYE GALGIANI GALGIANI AYE
GLAZER. GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
NEWMAN AYE NEWMAN AYE PAN AYE
AND I WILL.
WILK AYE.
EIGHT WITH EIGHT VOTES THE BILL
IS THE STONE COLD UNTIL.
THE FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS WITH
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATE FOR.
WILL I NOW CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS ON OUR BILLS BACK TO.
IS IT SAID.
ALWAYS REVISED. MODELS LUNCH
HOSTED.
IT WAS WE WILL GO THROUGH THE
ROLE ON THE BILL FOR START WITH
ITEM NUMBER ONE OF S. B. NINE
FIFTY PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
SAYS TO PASS THE SENATE
GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT
ORGANIZATION.
COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTED SIX ZERO
FULLER.
HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ AYE WELL.
WILK NOW.
BILL THAT BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES
IT IS OUT.
MOVING ITEM NUMBER TWO S. B.
NINE NINETY NINE PLEASE CALL
AFTER MEMBERS.
BUSH'S DO PASSED OF THE MINUTES
OF SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE FIVE TO
ONE. GALGIANI EARTH IS A GLAZER.
I.
GLAZER I.
MANDELA'S.
PAN.
IT OF THAT VOTE HERB BILL HAS
SIX THE SIX VOTES IN HIS OUT.
ITEM NUMBER THREE SB TEN OVER
ONE.
WHICH WILL HAVE TO MEMBER
NATIONS DE PASSED THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CURRENT AT
SIX
TWO ONE.
GALGIANI.
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
GLAZER I'VE.
WHO THAT BILL HAS EACH VOTE IT
IS OUT? MOVING NOW TO THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOUR SIX
AND SEVEN PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
FULLER.
THE GOD.
GALGIANI.
GALGIANI AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
AYE.
THE.
THE BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL
HOLD THE ROLE OPEN FOR A LITTLE
BIT TO THAT FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER
FIVE SB A ELEVEN OR NINE BATES
BEFORE THE ACTION IMPRESSIONIST
YOU PASS THE SENATE HEALTH
COMMITTEE. KERN VOTE SEVEN ZERO
GALGIANI.
GALGIANI I.
AND.
THE BILL HAS.
EIGHT VOTE WILL HOLD THE ROLE
OPEN.
OF THAT BILL IS OUT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER
NINE.
SP THIRTEEN OH FIVE PLEASE CALL
THE ABSENT MEMBERS MOTION HAS TO
PASS THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE EIGHT
ZERO GALGIANI.
GALGIANI AYE BILL HAS NINE VOTES
IT IS OUT THANK YOU.
WILL BE ITEM NUMBER TEN S. B.
FOURTEEN ZERO EIGHT.
SENATOR PAN PEACEFULLY AFTER
MEMBERS QUESTION IS DO YOU PASS
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE CARD BUT SEVEN ZERO
GALGIANI.
GALGIANI AYE WILK.
WORK I BILL HAS NINE VOTES IT IS
OUT.
GOING TO THE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN
IS BE FOURTEEN FORTY TWO SENATOR
WIENER BEFORE THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
MISSION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CURRENT
VOTE SIX ZERO FULLER.
GALGIANI GALGIANI AYE.
WILK.
WILK NOW.
SEVEN ONE SEVEN ONE THAT STILL
IS OUT. AND.
IT WILL IT WILL HOLD THE ROOM
OPENED BRIEFLY FOR THAT'S BEFORE
WE. CALL THAT BILL IN A MOVE TO
ITEM NUMBER TWELVE. S. B.
FOURTEEN FIFTY ONE SENATOR
FULLER PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS.
MISSION IS TO PASS AS AMENITIES
TO APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
CURRENT VOTE EIGHT ZERO
FERNANDEZ. HERMANOS I NOT THAT
BILL HAS NINE VOTES IT IS OUT
.
THE ROLE ON ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN.
S. B. FOURTEEN FORTY TWO.
WHICH WILL HAVE TO MEMBER.
ALL.
GOOD THAT BILL IS OUT SEVEN ONE
.
DODD.
IT'S INCOME ON.
HE OF.
GIVEN THE CONCERN. FULLER HAS.
IT WILL LEARN WILL THE ROLE ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WELL WE HAVE TO MEMBERS FULLER.
IT OWE THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS
OUT.
WE'RE GOOD AT THAT CONCLUDES THE
THAT CONCLUDES THE US THE SENATE
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
FOR HEARING FOR TODAY