HERE SKINNER HERE ANDERSON YOUR
ANDERSON HERE BRADFORD JACKSON
IF JACKSON HERE MITCHELL STONE.
I DON'T HEAR WIENER.
ALRIGHT SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
THINGS ON CONSENT.
WILL ALSO SB ELEVEN SIXTY.
SENATOR HUESO IS BILL AND HOLDS.
SO.
THAT WILL NOT BE ON OUR AGENDA.
AND WE WILL START WITH S. B.
NINE SEVEN ONE. SENATOR OR WENT.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR.
IN VICE CHAIRMAN OF ANDERSON AND
ALSO SENATORS.
RECENTLY ORANGE COUNTY
EXPERIENCE A TRAGIC DEATH OF A
NINETEEN YEAR OLD COLLEGE
STUDENT BLAZE BURNING STEAM WHO
DISAPPEARED DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
DAHLE AFTER AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH
HIS BODY WAS DISCOVERED BURIED
IN A SHALLOW GRAVE. ONE
INVESTIGATION THE CRIME IS STILL
ONGOING LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS NOT
RULED OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT
MR BERNSTEIN'S SEXUAL
ORIENTATION MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE
REASON FOR HIS MURDER.
OUR ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY TOLD CAUCUS. TO MY LEFT
HAS BEEN OVERSEEING THIS CASE
AND IDENTIFY AN IMPORTANT GAP
AND JUSTICE.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I
DID SPECIFICALLY FOUND THAT
CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE SECTION
NOT ONE NINE ZERO POINT TWO.
DOES NOT INCLUDE SEXUAL
ORIENTATION AND GENDER AS A
PROTECTED CLASS CLASS AS
PROTECTED CLASSES.
THE IMAGE OF THIS LANGUAGE IN
PENAL CODE SECTION ONE NINETY
POINT TO ALLOW THOSE COMMITTING
A CRIME AGAINST SOMEONE WHO IS
GAY.
THE ONLY BE CHARGED WITH THE
LOWER PENALTY HATE CRIME WITHOUT
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
S. B. IN NINE SEVEN ONE WOULD
CORRECT THIS OVERSIGHT AND
JUSTICE BY EXPANDING THE
DEFINITION SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
IN MURDER CASES. TO INCLUDE
SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER.
S. B. NINE SEVEN ONE WILL ONLY.
WILL NOT ONLY PROVIDE FUTURE
VICTIMS WOULD ECHO BOTH JUSTICE
BUT WAS SAID A STRONG AND CLEAR
MESSAGE THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO
COMMIT CRIMES AGAINST MEMBERS OF
THE LGBTQ. COMMUNITY THAT THEY
WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE
FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME
CONCERNS REGARDING EXPANSION OF
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE.
COLLEAGUES I URGENT NOT TO BE
DISTRACTED THE. PENALTY FOR
CONVICTION. OF A FIRST DEGREE
MURDER WITH SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES BEEN IN PLACE FOR
DECADES.
ALL I'M DOING IN THIS BILL IS TO
ADD FOR WORDS.
GENDER AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION
AND GENDER.
THIS BILL WOULD JUST BRING THE
CLASS IS PROTECTED BY SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCE.
CATEGORIES IN LINE WITH THOSE
PROTECTED BY THE CURRENT HATE
CRIME LAWS.
CURRENTLY THE US CLASSES FOR
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES INCLUDE
RACE COLOR NATIONALITY AND
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. BUT DAHLE IT
EXCLUDES SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND
GENDER.
WITH SP NINE SEVEN ONE WE CAN
FIX THIS OVERSIGHT AND PROVIDE
LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD RECOURSE
IN CASE OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE
FOUND GUILTY OF MURDERING
SOMEONE FOR THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION OR GENDER.
WE NEED TO PROVIDE OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM WAS SENTENCING
OPTIONS FOR. DELIBERATE AND
HATEFUL MURDER CASES LIKE MANY
OF YOU I PERSONALLY FOLLOWED THE
STORY PLACE BURDEN SCENES
UNEXPLAINED DISAPPEARANCE AND
THAT WAS HEARTBROKEN. TO LEARN
OF THE HIS
SENSELESS MURDER AND AS A MOTHER
OF TWO BOYS.
I COULD NOT IMAGINE.
THE LOSS OF A PRECIOUS SON AS
WELL AS THE LOS FELL BY HIS
FRIENDS AND ALL WHO KNEW HIM. I
DID NOT KNOW BLAZE PERSONALLY
BEFORE THE ACCOUNTS 'VE READ HE
WAS AN OUTSTANDING YOUNG MAN
WITH A PROMISING FUTURE HIS
DEATH CANNOT BE IN VAIN. WE NEED
TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY FIXING
OVER SAY NOW LOS REGARDS WHERE
WE COME FROM AND WHO WE ARE. ANY
MURDER THERE'S MOTIVATED BY HATE
DESERVES TO BE IN PAIN THE CODE
SECTION ONE NINETY POINT TWO.
COLLEAGUES I HOPE TO BRING
JUSTICE TO FAMILIES LIKE THE
BURSTING FAMILY.
UNDO PLEASED TO KNOW THAT THIS
EVEN IF THIS BILL DOES GO
FORWARD AND GET SIGN IT DOES NOT
AFFECT THE BURSTING CASE AT ALL.
AGAIN I ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE ON
HERE WITH ME TODAY IN SUPPORT OF
SB NINE SEVEN ONE IS.
OUR ORANGE COUNTY SECRETARY
TONY WOODCOCK.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU.
TURNING MAY PERSONALLY.
PAUL THANK YOU VERY MUCH IT'S
REAL.
PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS
MORNING WITH YOU AND. I ARE JUST
TO. BE VERY BRIEF THE SENATOR.
PRETTY MUCH EXPLAINED IT BUT.
.
PLAYS BERNSTEIN WAS A. OF THE
STUDENT HE WAS A NINETEEN YEAR
OLD STUDENT AT.
OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
PENNSYLVANIA AND.
LA BELLE A VIBRANT.
INTELLIGENT.
A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS.
VERY ENTERPRISING AND HAD A
GREAT FUTURE ANNIE DID.
HAPPEN TO BE GAY. AND TO HEAD
WAS WAS.
HOME IN ORANGE COUNTY ON A. ON A
ON A VACATION AND TO.
.
DURING THE VACATION HE MET UP
WITH OF FORMER. OUR CLASSMATE
DOES SOMETIME IN THE UP IN THE
EVENING AND.
HIT AND THAT WAS A PERSON NAMED
SAM WOODWARD AND.
THEM.
YOUNG MISTER BERNSTEIN THEN.
DISAPPEARED FROM FROM SIDE
AFTER THAT NEXT DAY HE WAS.
A REPORTED TO BE MISSING SAM
WOODWARD SAID THAT THE LAST SHE
HAD SEEN HIM WAS IN A PARK.
AND. THEN THERE WAS A SEARCH FOR.
A FOR A PLACE.
BERNSTEIN FOR THE NEXT EIGHT
DAYS AND IT WAS A SEARCH THAT OF
COURSE EVERYBODY WAS HOPING.
THAT HE MIGHT TURN UP ALIVE BUT
HE DIDN'T HE TURNED UP BURIED IN
A SHALLOW GRAVE. OF BUSINESS
PARK WHERE SAM WOODWARD SAID
THAT HE HAD LAST SEEN HIM.
.
SO HERB THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT
POINTS TO.
A OF COURSE AND TO THE MURDER
AND TO THE UP.
MOTIVATION OF.
OF HIM BEING A OF HIM BEING GAY.
IN BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE.
AT THE CHARGES THAT COULD BE
FILED IN THE SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCE CHARGE THE COULD BE
FILED IN.
AND DOES SAW THAT.
.
THAT ALL OF THE OTHER HATE
CRIMES ARE LISTED IN THIS
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES BUT THE
EXCEPT FOR.
EXCEPT FOR AROUND A GENDER AND
SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND THE.
MOM WHY IS WHY ARE THEY NOT A
PROTECTED BY SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT BEEN THE SAME
MANNER AS ALL THE OTHER. A HATE
CRIME VICTIMS AND SO.
SO NOT BECAUSE THAT GAP OF
THOUGHT WE SHOULD THE.
I ASK A SENATOR WIN TOO PROPOSES
LEGISLATION AND THEN WERE. ARE
CERTAINLY.
GRATEFUL THAT SHE DID AND NOW.
SO THAT'S.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU DO WE HAVE OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
WHO SHALL MUCH ROBBIE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT THE.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ALRIGHT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
.
IN LEARN.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS NATASHA
MINSKER ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION.
CALIFORNIA LAW ALREADY PROVIDES
LIFE WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE AS THE MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT
FOR HATE CRIMES DIRECTED AT LGBT
Q. INDIVIDUALS OR BASED ON
GENDER.
THAT'S IT IS IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND THE EFFECT OF THIS
BILL IS ONLY SEEKING TO EXPAND
THE SCOPE OF THE DEATH PENALTY.
BUT CALIFORNIA'S DEATH PENALTY
IS BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR.
SINCE THE DEATH PENALTY WAS
REINSTATED BY THE VOTERS IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY SEVEN. THE
STATE HAS CARRIED OUT ONLY
THIRTEEN EXECUTIONS. NINE IN THE
PAST TWELVE YEARS BECAUSE WE
HAVE NO LEGAL METHOD OF CARRYING
OUT EXECUTIONS AND THAT
CONTINUES TODAY.
DEATH PENALTY APPEALS TAKE MORE
THAN TWENTY FIVE YEARS TO MOVE
THROUGH THE COURTS.
AND EVERYONE ON DEATHROW. DIES
OF NATURAL CAUSES JUST LIKE
PEOPLE SENTENCED TO LIFE WITHOUT
THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE.
IN FACT THE SAN DIEGO DISTRICT
ATTORNEY BONNIE DEMAND US HAS
CALLED THE DEATH PENALTY IN
CALIFORNIA A HOLLOW PROMISE TO
VICTIMS FAMILY MEMBERS. BECAUSE
WE TELL THEM WE ARE GOING TO DO
SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NEVER
GOING TO DO.
MORE AND MORE VICTIMS FAMILY
MEMBERS ASK FOR ALTERNATIVE
SENTENCES BECAUSE THEY DON'T
WANT TO BE SUBJECTED TO THE.
MANY DECADES OF EMOTIONAL
TURMOIL AT THE GOES WITH A DEATH
SENTENCE.
THE DEATH PENALTY COSTS
CALIFORNIA VOTERS HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
IT IS APPLIED IN NEWS
DISCRIMINATORY FASHION.
AND PERHAPS MOST CONCERNING LESS
THAN A MONTH AGO THE CALIFORNIA
SUPREME COURT REVERSED A DEATH
SENTENCE.
BUT IS MORE THAN TWENTY FIVE
YEARS OLD BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS
ALMOST CERTAINLY INNOCENT.
THE DEATH PENALTY.
MUST BE. REMOVED FROM CALIFORNIA
LAW. ANY FURTHER EXPANSION WILL
ONLY INCREASE THE HARM. WE
STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS IN
OPPOSITE
GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE GOING
BACK IS FOR THE ELEVATOR CENTER
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS WE ARE POSTED
EXPANSION OF THE DEATH PENALTY
AND ITS APPLICATION.
THIS COMMITTEES WHEN DOING GREAT
WORK ON WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS AND
RECKON PENTING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
PRISON FOR MANY MANY YEARS. ONLY
BE FOUND TO BE NOT GUILTY.
OF COURSE A DEATH PENALTY THE
STATE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY
TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TO LIFE.
SO WE'RE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE
DEATH PENALTY APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU ARE THERE OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
SCENE NINE.
COMMITTEE.
SENATOR.
I THINK YOU ARE.
MADAM CHAIR AND FOR THE ACLU
APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TESTIMONY
TODAY AND.
IT OVER THE THE DEBATE TODAY
REALLY IS NOT.
WHETHER OR NOT. WE SUPPORT OR
DON'T SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT
WE WANT TO INCLUDE A CRIME A
VERY HEINOUS CRIME AGAINST A
SPECIALIZED GROUP.
AND REQUIRING HAND SPENCE.
FOR THESE HEINOUS MURDERS.
AND YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR
TESTIMONY THAT.
YOU FEEL THAT.
THE DEATH PENALTY IS BROKEN
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN
APPROPRIATE MEANS OF EXECUTING
PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT'S A MORE POLITICAL
THAN REALITY AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE
THE COMPASSIONATE.
PROGRAM FOR TERMINALLY ILL
PEOPLE THEY CAN GATHER DOCTOR
RIGHT FOR A A COCKTAIL THAT
EXIST TODAY.
.
WHAT WOULD YOU OPINE THAT THAT
COCKTAIL IS IN HUMAN AS WELL IF
WE CAN'T USE IT FOR TERMINALLY
ILL PEOPLE?
?
THE WITNESS WANTS TO RESPOND IF
YOU COUNT THE CAN BE.
YES.
I DON'T THINK YOU.
I WOULD I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THAT.
CALIFORNIA'S EXECUTION METHOD
HAS BEEN IN LITIGATION FOR
THIRTEEN YEARS AND WE CONTINUE
TO NOT HAVE A VALID EXECUTION
METHOD I THINK THAT.
DEMONSTRATES THAT WE DON'T HAVE
THE ABILITY TO PROCEED IN
CALIFORNIA OKAY.
SO.
I WOULD OPINE THAT THE.
DEATH PENALTY STILL IS IN
EXISTENCE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ALBEIT A BABY UNDER
LITIGATION AND AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME HOPEFULLY
THEY'LL LOOK AT THE DRUGS THAT
ARE USED IN THE COMPASSIONATE.
.
EFFORTS OF THOSE SITTER
TERMINALLY ILL TO.
TO END THEIR LIVES AND WHAT IS
ALWAYS BEEN MARKETED TO ALL OF
US IS A VERY HUMANE WAY OF.
ELIMINATING SOMEBODY'S
SUFFERING.
MISTER CAUCUS OF THANK YOU ALSO
FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
.
YOU KNOW.
I BELIEVE.
THAT ANYBODY THAT THE USES HATE.
.
AND A CRIME ESPECIALLY ONE IS
HEINOUS.
AS THE ONE THAT.
WE JUST HEARD ABOUT WERE A
VICTIM WAS.
STABBED TWENTY TIMES.
.
I A NEO*.
AND THE ONLY REASON WHY THAT
PERSON WAS MURDERED BECAUSE OF
BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
AND SO. YOU KNOW I STRONGLY
SUPPORT.
THIS ENHANCEMENT OF SURPRISE IT
DOESN'T EXIST ALREADY BUT.
FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU KNOW WHEN
WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE ADDED
OTHER ENHANCEMENTS.
ARE ON THE BASIS OF OTHER
CRITERIA TO THE DEATH PENALTY
THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY.
YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
YES OF.
WE HAVE THE.
PROP PROBABLY EIGHT OR TEN.
CASES A YEAR.
POOR WE PILED SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES IN THEM.
AND THEN HAVE A REVIEW TO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE
SHOULD BE A DEATH PENALTY NO I
UNDERSTAND THAT. WHEN WAS A LAW
CHANGE TO ADD ANOTHER CATEGORY
IF YOU WILL TO ALLOW FOR
ENHANCEMENTS IT ARE YOU AWARE OF
THAT AS IT HAPPENED RICK IN
RECENT HISTORY YOU AT YOUR HAND
PLENTY OF HATE CRIME ENHANCEMENT.
EXCUSE ME. QUALITIES THAT.
YEP I THREE EXCUSE ME OKAY.
I WILL ALLOW YOU TO ANSWER IF
YOU HAVE A FACTUAL ANSWER THE
QUESTION OTHERWISE WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE SENATOR STONE WEEK I
DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR THAT WAS
THAT. BOW YOU WOULD SAY WAS A
RECENT HISTORY.
YEAH OKAY.
SO.
ENTICE YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION.
YES I HATE CRIMES SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCE WAS PART OF THE
INITIAL.
WAS THAT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF THE
VOTERS IN NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT
IT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED SINCE
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT.
SO I IN ACCORDANCE WITH.
.
THE LAW TODAY IF SOMEBODY WERE.
MURDER DOES SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY
WERE.
.
FOLLOWS FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM.
WOULD THAT REQUIRE A ENHANCEMENT.
NO IT WOULD NOT THAT WOULD BE A.
HATE CRIME AND IT WOULD THERE
WOULD BE AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THAT.
OKAY A COULD YOU GIVE SOUTHERN
EXAMPLES OF.
HATE CRIMES THAT WOULD REQUIRE
THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THESE TYPES
OF INTENSE.
SURE THE THE ENTIRE LIST OF OF
HATE CRIMES WOULD ALLOW FOR. THE
SO.
MURDER BECAUSE OF.
OF THE DISABILITY SOMEBODY'S
DISABILITY. OR THEIR NATIONALITY.
OR THEIR RELIGION.
OR.
THEIR RACE OR ETHNICITY.
.
SO THOSE THOSE OF THE OTHER.
EXAMPLES.
SO ABOUT.
I I GUESS WHO. THEN AND THEN
THIS WILL BE A MORE OF A
RHETORICAL QUESTION HAND.
WHY WOULD WE?
SAY THAT GAYS SHOULD BE HELD TO.
A DIFFERENT STANDARD MURDER IS
MURDER.
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRE
THE DEATH PENALTY THE DEATH
PENALTY IS.
IS LAW IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ALBEIT DELAYED AND IN
THAT LITIGATION.
DO YOU SEE ANY REASON WHY THIS
CRIME WOULDN'T BE COMMENSURATE
WITH ANY OTHER CRIME THAT WOULD
REQUIRE AN ENHANCEMENT.
ABSOLUTELY NOT THAT'S WHY.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE S..
SENATOR WHEN TO PROPOSE IT
BECAUSE.
.
THAT WE CAN'T SEE ANY REASON
WHY.
OF THE LGBT Q. COMMUNITY
DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME
PROTECTIONS WELL I THINK THAT
WHEN WHITE.
BECAUSE IT WAS ACTUALLY ADDED BY
STATUTE BY SENATOR SHEILA KUEHL.
SO SENATOR SHE WOULD FUEL ADDED.
THE.
THE OUR THE CLEARCOAT SECTION
ONE NINETEEN POINT ZERO THREE.
THAT ALLOWS FOR A. FIRST DEGREE
MURDER THAT IS A HATE CRIME AS
L. WALK BECAUSE SHE DID NOT WANT.
HAVE DEATH PENALTY AS THE ONLY
OPTION
FOR THOSE HATE CRIMES THAT WERE
GENDER OR LGBT BASED.
SO IN FACT IT DOES HAVE A
HISTORY AND THAT ADDITION WAS
MADE FOR THAT REASON.
BUT I APPRECIATE IT AND MAKE A
CLARIFICATION NO. OFF COULD
NEVER REMARKS ARE SHIRLEY.
WE HAD A.
.
THE BILL BY.
MY GOOD FRIEND SENATOR MARK
LENO FROM SAN FRANCISCO.
AND YOU REMEMBER THAT HE WANTED
TO.
INCLUDE DISCRIMINATION TO BE A
PART OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.
THAT WAS PASSED MANY MANY YEARS
AGO AND I WAS.
VERY PROUD TO STAND UP.
AND.
INCLUDE.
DISCRIMINATION AGAINST PEOPLE
BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION TO BE CIVIL RIGHTS
VIOLATION.
TO ME THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION
OF THAT THAT IF YOU.
PURPOSEFULLY MURDER SOMEONE
BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION.
THAT YOU SHOULD RECEIVE THE SAME
ENHANCEMENTS THAT OTHER HATE
CRIMES.
DELIVER WITHIN OUR JUDICIAL
SYSTEM SO SENATOR WHEN I WANNA.
APPLAUD YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD INS AND MISTER DISTRICT
ATTORNEY RICK HAKKAS THANK YOU
FOR TRAVELLING ALL THE WAY HERE
TODAY AND.
SHARE.
EUROPE.
YOUR PASSION FOR HOLDING PEOPLE
pACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CRIMES
IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION AND I APPRECIATE
THAT YOU'RE BOTH HERE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR BRADFORD IN
SENATOR WIENER. EGGMAN CHAIR I'M
EACH ONE BE CLEAR ON THOSE
ADDITIONAL HATE CRIMES THAT.
YOU CAN BE SENTENCED TO DEATH
IS RACE ONE OF THOSE.
OKAY SO SOLELY ON BASED ON THE
FACT THAT YOU'RE AFRICAN
AMERICAN YOU WERE KILLED. WE
SENTENCE SOMEONE TO THE DEATH
PENALTY.
WELL THAT'S THE PASTA MEANS
THAT'S WHAT SPECIAL ENHANCE OUR
PRESSURE CIRCUMSTANCES CAN
INCLUDE YES.
I I I I GET THAT THANK YOU. ARE
I GUESS MY REAL ISSUE HERE IS
THAT.
I THINK. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH
HISTORICAL. DATA AND EVIDENCE TO
PROVE HAT THE DEATH PENALTY
DOES NOT PREVENT ANYONE FROM
COMMITTING A CRIME.
USUALLY AS YOU KNOW CRIMES ARE
CRIMES OF PASSION MURDER MOST
THE TIME.
AS CRIMES OF PASSION NO ONE SITS
THERE AND THINKS YOU KNOW ONE OF.
GET THE DEATH PENALTY IF I KILL
SOMEONE.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE
HUMANE APPROACH HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AND I THINK LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE IS.
PRIDE MOST CRUEL PUNISHMENT YOU
CAN GIVE SOMEONE SELF I REALLY
HAVE A PROBLEM CHIU WITH
ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS.
.
AS AND I HAVE ALL THE RESPECT
FOR.
FOLKS WHO ARE TARGETED BASED ON
RACE GENDER SEXUAL ORIENTATION I
UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THAT IN AND
OF ITSELF SHOULD NOT WARRANT
SOMEONE BEING PUT TO DEATH IT
MIGHT WANT SPENDING THE REST
YOUR LIFE IN PRISON. BUT NOT PUT
TO DEATH.
UNDER WIENER.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND.
I'M TO THREE AUTHORED.
YOU KNOW YOU AND YOU AND I'VE
SPOKEN SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE
BILL AND. I AM APPRECIATIVE OF.
YOU NOTICE
AND EFFORT A.
TWO AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO HELP PROTECT LGBT
PEOPLE FROM VIOLENCE AND I.
ARE I APPRECIATE THAT AS A. AS A
GAY MAN WHO HAS.
I SEEM ODD TO MANY MEMBERS OF
MY COMMUNITY GOING BACK TO WHEN.
I WAS VERY YOUNG ALL THE WAY
THROUGH TODAY PEOPLE WHO GET
TARGETED. ARE ON THE STREETS TO
GET.
HARASSED TO. UP VERBALLY AND
PHYSICALLY WHO WILL GET
ASSAULTED INJURED.
AND TRAGICALLY WHO ARE MURDERED
AND WE PARTICULARLY HAVE.
LOT AND EPIDEMIC OF AYE TRANS
WOMEN OF COLOR WHO ARE BEING.
I MURDERED AT RATES THAT I'M
ASTONISHING DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN.
OUGHT TO DESCRIBE IT WHEN YOU
SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AYE IN
CALIFORNIA AND OTHER PARTS OF
THE COUNTRYSIDE. COMMUNITY.
AS AS MUCH AS SOMETIMES PEOPLE.
ODDLY WELL OU HAVE MARRIAGE
EQUALITY NOW YOU CAN SERVE IN
THE MILITARY AT LEAST NOT
EVERYONE THOUGHT IN TERMS OF
TRYING TO CALTRANS PEOPLE OUT
THE PUTTING NOT ASIDE. ON AT
LEAST SOME LGBT PEOPLE
CONSERVING THE MILITARY.
IT'S ALL GOOD AND IT'S NOT ALL
GOOD.
THIS THE COMMUNITY IT'S STILL
STRUGGLES FROM SIGNIFICANT
POVERTY.
DOT HE CRIMES ARE PEOPLE BEING
VICTIMIZING KILLED ON INCREDIBLY
HIGH SUICIDE RATES ARE
PARTICULARLY. ARE AMONG YOUNG
PEOPLE YOUNG LGBT PEOPLE ARE
KILLING THEMSELVES THAT.
REALLY.
TRAGIC.
RATES
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO
AND. AND THAT'S WHY WE.
WORKS HARD IN THE LEGISLATURE
TO PASS A LAWS TO.
TO PROTECT LGBT PEOPLE TO MAKE
SURE. OUR WHETHER YOU'RE A KID
IN HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE OR.
WHETHER YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE.
TOM OR WHETHER YOU'RE.
A SENIOR LIVING IN A NURSING
HOME.
THAT YOU ARE.
PROTECTED AND AND AND THAT'S
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE.
ARE FOCUSING ON OUR FOR THE.
ON ANIMAL WHO DID THIS.
TO MISTER BROWN SEEING THAT
PERSON.
A YOU KNOW AS I UNDERSTAND THAT
LIFE WITHOUT OF PAROLE IS A
POSSIBILITY AND.
AND I I I HOPE TO DIE.
IS SERIOUSLY. ARE CONSIDERED.
AND I'VE I KNOW THAT OF THE GUY
MAY HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH A
NEO* GROUP THEN. I'VE REALLY
JUST A HORRIBLE SITUATION ON BUT
WITHOUT SAID MY UNDERSTANDING OF
THIS BILL. ON AND ANSWER YOU AND
I SPOKE ABOUT THIS IT IS WATER
AND EFFECTIVELY DOESN'T EXPAND
THE DEATH PENALTY BECAUSE LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE AS I UNDERSTAND
THAT. IT STILL IS ALREADY ON THE
TABLE HERE CAN BE CHARGED LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE. ARE AND SO THIS
IS REALLY.
AND PLEASE. CORRECT ME IF I'M
MISTAKEN ARTIFACT OF THE BILL IS
REALLY ABOUT AREN'T REALLY.
EXPANDS DEATH PENALTY AND THAT'S
WHAT IT DOES.
I DON'T SUPPORT THE DEATH
PENALTY I DON'T THINK THE DEATH
PENALTY IS EFFECTIVE I THINK
IT'S.
I'VE BEEN A SCAR HONOR SOCIETY.
I THINK WE CAN ADEQUATELY.
AND HARSHLY PUNISH PEOPLE AND
INCAPACITY POPLE WHO NEED TO BE
INCAPACITATED. OUT WITHOUT THE
STATE ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE ARE
AND SO ON I WON'T BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THE BILL.
BECAUSE IT'S AN EXPENSIVE DEATH
PENALTY BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE
EFFORT OUGHT TO PROTECT LGBT
PEOPLE FROM VIOLENCE.
SENATOR MITCHELL.
AHMAD LIKE TO. ASSOCIATE MYSELF
WITH THE COMMENTS MDE FROM MY
COLLEAGUE IN SAN FRANCISCO AND
FURTHER SAY THAT. YOU KNOW
NATIONAL STUDIES.
ARE CLEAR THAT MINIMALLY ONE IN
TEN I INDIVIDUALS ON DEATH ROW.
ARE NOT GUILTY AND SO ON STILL
WE HAVE A JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT
CAN GUARANTEE US WITH A BETTER
RATE.
THAT THOSE WHO.
HAD BEEN SINCE THE DEATH
PENALTY.
ARE INDEED GUILTY I CAN'T
SUPPORT IN CALIFORNIA UMMAH AND
EXPANSION OF THE DEATH PENALTY
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY PRIMARILY FOR THOSE
REASONS.
SENATE JACKSON
HIS THANK YOU I APPRECIATE YOUR
BRINGING THIS BILL AND UNLIKE MY
COLLEAGUES ARE NOT NECESSARILY
OPPOSED.
TO THE DEATH PENALTY IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES BUT. IN THIS CASE
ARM.
A WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT.
.
KILLINGS SITTER HATE MOTIVATED
AND WE TALK ABOUT IT ON THE
BASIS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND
GENDER. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE
REMARKS MADE ABOUT THE.
LGBTQ COMMUNITY WHICH I THINK
ARE VALID IN.
IT IS.
APPALLING BUT WHAT'S APPALLING
TO IS HUMANA HATE WE'RE SEEING
EVERYWHERE.
AND I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED
TO DO IS ADDRESS HATE.
IT IS NOT GOING TO STOP ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO GO OUT AND KILL
SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY'RE BLACK OR
KILL SOMEBODY BECAUSE REAL GPT
Q..
IT IT IT AND ON BEHALF OF THE
WOMEN OF FIFTY TWO PERCENT OF
POPULATION. WE KNOW THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
A.
TAKES THE LIVES OF AN ENORMOUS
NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO ARE.
KILLED BY THEIR PARTNERS BECAUSE
ARGUABLY BECAUSE OUR WOMEN AND
THEY'VE REBUFF THE MORE THEY'RE
NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED
TO OR THEY'VE REJECTED THEM OR.
ARE ANY ANY SUCH THING IS SET SO
YOU COULD EXPAND THIS LAW
ARGUABLY TO INCLUDE JUST ABOUT
ANY KIND OF HATE.
.
A AND AND I WANNA SHE HATES STOP
BUT THIS ISN'T GONNA STOP IT WAS
GOING TO STOP IS IF WE TRIED TO
LOOK AT EACH OTHER AS HUMAN
BEINGS.
I AS IT WE TRY TO REFLECT ON OUR
BEHAVIOR.
.
SO I I. I I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BUT
THIS I DON'T BELIEVE IS.
IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO
THAT AND I.
.
AND THEN I WONDERED.
IF WE'RE GOING TO KILL A WE'RE
GONNA. HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY
FOR HATE CRIMES WHAT ABOUT THE
COLD CALCULATED KILLER FOR HIRE.
THOSE ARE PRETTY CREEPY
CRIMINALS TO ME AS WELL.
SO BASICALLY MOST MURDER MOST
FIRST DEGREE MURDER IS COMMITTED
FOR A REASON THAT IS OFFENSIVE
TO SOCIETY.
.
A I I THINK WE JUST THOSE.
WE JUST NEED TO REALLY STEP BACK
AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE
REALLY ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND.
.
AND HOPE THAT WEEKEND.
A.
TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE
WOULD KILL SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE
THEY'RE GAY OR.
.
COMMIT VIOLENCE IN AND KILL A
LIST OF PURPORTED LOVED ONE
BECAUSE.
OF THEIR. GENDER IN RELATIONSHIP
AND ECHO THE LIST GOES ON AND ON
BUT I I I DO APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH I
THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO
IT SO I WILL BE OPPOSING THE.
BEFORE YOU CLOSE IN THERE WHEN I.
.
I DON'T SUPPORT THE DEATH
PENALTY BUT ALSO WOULD NOT
SUPPORT THIS EXPANSION EVEN IF I
DID.
BECAUSE
I WOULD ONE TO RESPECT SENATOR
KEWELL'S EFFORT.
AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED
TO MAKE SURE THAT LGBTQ PEOPLE
WORKINGS WERE INCLUDED. IN A
HATE CRIMES STATUTE.
SHE ALSO WENT TO THE EXTRA
TROUBLE. OF MAKING SURE THAT THE
HATE CRIME STATUTE.
DID NOT NEED TO HAVE THE SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCE OF DEATH PENALTY
AND THAT LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. SO
SHE EXPLICITLY PUT INTO THE CODE.
THAT.
A PERSON WHO COMMITS A FIRST
DEGREE MURDER THAT IS AYE HE
CRIMES SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY
LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. SO I HAD
THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF BEING AT
THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN PRESIDENT
OBAMA SIGNED THE MATTHEW SHEPARD.
AND JAMES BEARD. I HATE CRIMES
BILL AND I BRING UP BOTH NAMES
BECAUSE IT'S WELL KNOWN FOR
MATTHEW SHEPHERD WHO WAS THE GUY.
GAY MAN IN WYOMING.
BUT TEAM SPIRIT WAS THE OUT
BLACK MAN IN TEXAS.
SO THE.
.
I AM VERY VERY THANKFUL THAT WE
HAVE
S. CATEGORIES AND HATE CRIMES
STATUTE.
AND THAT WE HAVE IT BOTH A
NATIONALLY AND IN OUR STATE.
BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT YOUR BILL
TODAY BECAUSE IN RESPECT TO
SENATOR COOLS EFFORT. TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE DID NOT NECESSARILY
EXPAND THE DEATH PENALTY ASPECT
OF IT.
SO WITH THAT YOU MAY CLOSE AND
THEN WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR IDEAS
AGAIN OF ONE IT DOES.
THEIR SUB COMPENSATE WERE STATED
I JUST WANNA JUST TO AT YOU KNOW
HOW YOU JUST. KEEP HIS DIALOGUE
OPEN IS THAT YOU.
HATE CRIME ITSELF IS VERY
SPECIFIC RIGHT NOW IS HIS RACE
COLOR NATIONALLY COUNTRY OF
ORIGIN.
ON AND SO IT WE WANT TO INCLUDE.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE I MEAN I'M NOT
I'M NOT EXPANDING HATE CRIME I'M
JUST TAKING. THE DEFINITION OF
HATE CRIME TO ADD INTO SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES
THAT'S SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCESOR
READING CLUED ALL THIS.
I'M SORRY. HATE CRIME RIGHT HOW
CLUES ALSO SEXUAL ORIENTATION
AND GENDER.
THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
IT ONLY PROTECTS RACE COLOR
NATIONAL COUNTRY OF ORIGIN BUT
NOT INCLUDE SEXUAL ORIENTATION
AND GENDER. SO UP MY GOAL HERE
WASN'T TO EXPAND THE HATE CRIME
CATEGORIES. ON I'M JUST TAKING
WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN LAW TO MAKE
SURE THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
ARE THERE TO SAY THEY'RE THE
SAME.
I'M I'M NOT HERE AT ALL IN ANY
WAY TO DEBATE DEATH COUNTY YES
OR NO. AT ALL THAT WAS NOT THE
INTENTION OF MY BILL I'M NOT
EXPANDING THAT I'M NOT SPENDING
THAT LANGUAGE I'M JUST ADDING IN
THAT. I BELIEVE THAT INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARE WHO ARE MURDER FACE ON
BEING. LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
SHOULD BE TREATED NO DIFFERENT
THAN ANY OTHER CATEGORIES.
THAT'S SIMPLY IT AND THAT'S ALL
AGAIN I APOLOGIZE IF YOU FELT
THAT SOMEHOW THIS COMES UP WITH.
THE DEATH PENALTY EXAGGERATE
IT'S NOT ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS.
IF YOU HAVE IT IN THE HATE CRIME
CATEGORIES.
MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S ALL UNIFY
AND ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES
WHERE HE CRIME STANCE.
AND AND THAT'S IT A I HAVE NO
INTENTION OF TRYING TO DO AWAY
WITH OF THE FORMER SENATORS BILL
EITHER. ON THAT WAS NEVER MY
INTENTION ON THIS IS AGAIN GOING
BACK TO IS JUST.
BECAUSE SYSTEM.
HATE CRIME.
ATTACKS THESE CLASSES.
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES ONLY
PROTECT A FEW OF THE HATE CRIME
NOT THE OTHER TWO. ON AND THAT'S
SIMPLY WHAT THIS BILL IS AND I
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND I.
WOULD APPRECIATE A CONSIDERATION
FOR AN AYE VOTE THANK YOU.
THEIR MOTION.
RIGHT ON.
WE'LL HAVE LOCAL.
MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS SKINNER NO
SKINNER NOW ANDERSON. ANDERSON
AYE BRADFORD.
FOR NOW JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL NOW STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER NO WIENER NOW.
BILL FAILS MASS RECONSIDERATION
MANAGER.
YES YOU MAY BE GRANTED
RECONSIDERATION THANK YOU YOU'RE
WELCOME.
ALRIGHT.
VERY.
WELL SENATOR WIENER YOU COULD
BEGIN.
SENATOR BATES ISN'T HERE.
OKAY ALRIGHT THEN NO.
.
THEY CAN'T.
WELL SENATOR BRADFORD NO WE HAVE
YOU ON CONSENT BRADFORD A THREE
YEAR ON CONSENT.
IT'S NOT LOOKING.
I CAN CHANGES IT TOUGH CROWD
YEAH WE COULD NOT HAVE SALAS.
ALRIGHT LET'S ACT ON CONSENT
LET'S ACT ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. LIMON MOTION GREAT.
LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR.
SKINNER.
.
I. CAN HEAR AYE ANDERSON ARTS
COMMANDERS WITH HIGH BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON AYE JACKSON
AYE MITCHELL MISSILE AYE STONE
SENATOR MY READER. CENTER WE
NOTICES CONSECUTIVE.
WE ARE I QUE CENTER WE KNOW WE
CAN GO IF SENATOR JACKSON'S SJR.
WHAT'S GO THAT.
DON'T WORRY WE'LL WAIT ON YOUR
SCREEN AT SENATOR JACKSON'S.
NO GREAT SO GO TO SENATOR
JACKSON'S.
DOORS.
WE'RE ALL GOOD.
BROKERS YOU CAN'T WE'RE NOT
SKIPPING YOUR BILL STORY.
VIRGINIA WE JUST.
.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO SJR KEEP OUR
COMMITTEE GOING SINCE WE'VE GOT
A HAVE A SHORT STOP AT ELEVEN
THIRTY EVEN IF WE'RE NOT THROUGH
THEM AND THEN WE'LL START AGAIN
THAT.
ACTUALLY WILL START BLOOM BEFORE
ELEVEN THIRTY.
YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
BE SOMEWHERE AT ELEVEN THIRTY.
OKAY SARAH GO AHEAD. ARE GOOD
MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
I'M HERE PERCENT SJR TWENTY
FOUR IT'S A RESOLUTION CALLING
ON CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT TO
ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE ASSAULT
WEAPON BAN. AND ALSO CALLING ON
CALPERS TO DIVEST ITS GONE
HOLDINGS.
RAPID FIRE ASSAULT WEAPONS WITH
LARGE CLIPS OF AMMUNITION. HAVE
ONLY ONE PURPOSE.
THE MASS SLAUGHTER OF LARGE
NUMBERS OF HUMAN BEINGS THEY
WERE DESIGNED FOR MILITARY USE
TO ACHIEVE THAT MISSION IN
COMBAT.
FOR NEARLY EIGHTY YEARS EIGHTY
YEARS FEDERAL LAW HAS BANNED
MACHINE GUNS GRENADES AND BOMBS
OTHER WEAPONS OF WAR LIKE
ASSAULT WEAPONS THAT ARE SIMPLY
TOO DANGEROUS TO BE IN CIVILIAN
HANDS.
CONGRESS PASSED AN ASSAULT
WEAPONS BAN AS PART OF THE
VIOLENT CRIME CONTROL AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT ACT IN NINETEEN
NINETY FOUR.
BUT IT EXPIRED IN TWO THOUSAND
AND FOUR AND WAS NOT RENEWED.
BEFORE ITS EXPIRATION THE
FEDERAL ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL
SHOOTING VICTIMS BY FIFTY FOUR
POINT FOUR PERCENT ACCORDING TO
ACQUIT. YOU KNOW I CAN NEVER
PRONOUNCE IT QUINN AND PETE.
WHEN A FEW QUID QUINNIPIAC.
QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY STUDY YOU
THINK THEY MIGHT CHANGE THE NAME
OF THIS ON OUR ADVOCATE.
QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY STUDY THE
TWENTY SIXTEEN BOOK RAMPAGE
NATION COLLECTED DATA ON EVERY
GUN MASSACRE FOR THE FIFTY YEARS
BEFORE TWENTY SIXTEEN.
THE GOAL OF DETERMINING IF THERE
WAS ANY CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF
GUN MASSACRES WHILE THE TEN YEAR
BAN WAS IN PLACE THE RESULTS ARE
STAGGERING. BETWEEN NINETEEN
EIGHTY EIGHT AND NINETEEN NINETY
SEVEN.
A HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE PEOPLE
WERE KILLED IN EIGHTEEN MASS
SHOOTINGS THE NEXT DECADE.
NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT TO TWO SET
TO OH SEVEN ANOTHER HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY ONE WERE KILLED IN
TWENTY ONE MASS SHOOTINGS.
OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS.
TWENTY A TWO THOUSAND EIGHT TO
TWENTY SEVENTEEN FOUR HUNDRED
THIRTY SEVEN WERE KILLED IN
FIFTY MASS SHOOTINGS.
THAT'S EIGHTY NINE MASS
SHOOTINGS IN THE LAST THIRTY
YEARS THAT SNUFFED OUT THE LIVES
OF MORE THAN SEVEN HUNDRED
PEOPLE.
COMPARED WITH A TEN YEAR PERIOD
BEFORE THE BAND WAS SOME PLACE.
THE NUMBER OF MASS SHOOTINGS
DURING THE BAND FELL BY THIRTY
SEVEN PERCENT.
AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DYING
FROM MASS SHOOTINGS BY FORTY
THREE PERCENT.
BUT AFTER THE BAN LAPSED INTO
THOUSAND FOR THE NUMBER SHOT UP
AGAIN.
AND THE STATE AS ASTONISHING
HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE PERCENT
INCREASE IN GUN MASSACRES AND
TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE
PERCENT INCREASE IN DEATHS.
THE ONLY GUN CONTROL MEASURE
THAT HAS HAD A STATISTICALLY
SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE NUMBER
AND SEVERITY OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
IS THE FEDERAL ASSAULT WEAPONS
BAN.
ITS GOAL IS TO STEM HORRIFIC
MASS SHOOTING INCIDENTS.
AND IT WON'T STOP EVERY GUN
MASSACRE BUT IT WILL CUT DOWN ON
THE CARNAGE.
IT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE PROBLEMS
A POROUS BORDERS FOR STATES LIKE
CALIFORNIA THAT ARE PASSED OF
GUN CONTROL LAWS.
PUBLIC OPINION COLLEAGUES IS
WITH US ON THIS NINE OUT OF TEN
AMERICANS FAVOR BASIC STEPS LIKE
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS
BEFORE GUN PURCHASES.
SIXTY SIX PERCENT OF AMERICAN
VOTERS SUPPORTS STRICTER GUN
LAWS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF
SUPPORT EVER MEASURED BY THE
INDEPENDENT QUINNIPIAC
UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL. WITH
FIFTY PERCENT SUPPORT AMONG GUN
OWNERS.
IN THE SPIRIT OF THE STUDENTS
FROM PARKLAND WHO'VE BEEN
VILIFIED IN MARGINALIZED IN
THEIR QUEST FOR COMMON SENSE GUN
REFORMS. AND FOR THOSE SEVEN
HUNDRED PEOPLE WHO DIED
SENSELESSLY FROM THE USE OF
THESE. HORRIFIC WAR WEAPONS
I WOULD AT RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
A GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING AMANDA WILCOX HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CHAPTERS OF THE BRADY CAMPAIGN
TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE.
OF WE ARE OF COURSE IN SUPPORT
OF THIS RESOLUTION I WON'T A
REPEAT OF THE GREAT FACTS THAT
THE CENTER JUST PROVIDED TO YOU.
A I DID WANT TO ADD THOUGH THAT.
.
WHEN AN ASSAULT WEAPON OR LARGE
CAPACITY MAGAZINE IS USED TO
SHOOTING A HUNDRED AND FIFTY
FIVE PERCENT MORE PEOPLE ARE
SHOT IN FORTY SEVEN MORE DIE.
COMPARED TO THOSE SHOOTINGS
WITHOUT ASSAULT WEAPONS AND ALSO
ALSO SOUGHT WEAPONS KILL ONE OUT
OF EVERY FIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS.
AND YOU KNOW CALIFORNIA HAS
TAKEN THE LEAD ON GUN VIOLENCE
PREVENTION WE'VE DROPPED OUR WAY.
OUR FIRE METALLIC RATES AS HIGH
NINETEEN NINETY THREE BY FIFTY
SIX PERCENT MORE THAN THREE
TIMES THE REST OF THE NATION.
OUR GUN LAWS ARE MAKING A
DIFFERENCE IN SAVING LIVES.
BUT WE CANNOT DO IT ALONE WE
NEED TO OUR NATIONAL LEADERS TO
TAKE ACTION. OUR GUNS DO NOT
STOP OBVIOUSLY I AT STATE LINES
AND MOST OF US INCLUDING MYSELF
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY WE
CARE ABOUT THEIR SAFETY AS WELL.
ON PUBLIC OPINION HAS CERTAINLY
CHANGED ON THIS ISSUE AND PEOPLE
RECOGNIZE THAT I.
I'M WEAPON WITH A MILITARY STYLE
FEATURES THAT ALLOW FOR. CONTROL
AND MAINTAINING A NAME COMBINED
WITH BEING ABLE TO EXCHANGE
MAGAZINES
RAPIDLY
TO MAINTAIN FIRE AND CONTINUOUS
FIRE IS DEADLY AND I THINK OUR
COUNTRY IS GETTING TO THE POINT.
WHERE WE REALIZE THAT THESE ARE
UNACCEPTABLE WEAPONS ON THE
STREETS OF A CIVILIZED SOCIETY
ON AND WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION
AND I BOB STRONGLY SUPPORT AND?
THIS MEASURE. THIS RESOLUTION
THAT CALIFORNIA LEADERS ARE
ASKING THE FEDERAL.
ARE FEDERAL LEADERS TO DO THEIR
JOB AND. PROMOTE GUN SAFETY
MEASURES INCLUDING ASSAULT
WEAPONS BAN.
I URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
REBEKAH GONZALEZ VOLUNTEER WITH
THE BRADY CAMPAIGN THAT I'M TO
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE SACRAMENTO
VALLEY CHAPTER.
I'M LORETTA DEEPER CHERRY ALSO
AS A MEMBER OF THE SACRAMENTO
CHAPTER BRADY CAMPAIGN.
AND I AM APPROVED DISPEL.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN.
SUPPORT. WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
PLEASE PROCEED.
A MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
SEPARATIST REPRESENTING GUN
OWNERS CALIFORNIA. OF.
RIGHT OFF THE BAT I.
IN READING THE RESOLUTION AND
AND SOME OF THE WHERE*.
WE FOUND A MANY OF THE WHERE AS
IS TO BE.
.
FACTUALLY INCORRECT A.
IF WE CAN JUST START WITH THE
QUINNIPIAC POLL I THINK THIS WAS
ONE OF THE POLLS THAT. THE
PREDICTED THAT.
THAT OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT
WOULD NOT WIN ELECTION BY A VERY
WIDE MARGIN. SO NO THEY WERE I
THINK THEY WERE WRONG.
A.
A WELL IT'S IT'S IT'S.
.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT
JUSTICE SCALIA WHO WAS QUOTED IN
THIS RESOLUTION SAID THAT THE.
AND I YOU KNOW THESE DANGERS ON
SHOULD NOT BE WELL PROTECTED IN
FACT HE SAID.
QUOTE THAT FIREARMS THAT ARE
THAT ARE POPULAR.
WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
CANNOT BE BANNED THAT WOULD BE
AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
THE A ARE FIFTEEN STYLE MODERN
SPORTING RIFLE PLATFORM IS THE
SINGLE MOST POPULAR FIREARM
BEING PURCHASED BY AMERICANS
NATIONWIDE. IN THE MILLIONS AND
I WOULD THINK THAT THAT
QUALIFIES UNDER THE OUR
DEFINITION OF WHAT THE JUSTICE
SCULLY WAS SAYING AND IT DOESN'T
REALLY MATTER WHAT. THE AUTHOR
ANYBODY ELSE SAYS THAT IS A
PLAIN FACT THAT COULD BE CHECKED
BY LOOKING AT THE. BUREAU OF
ALCOHOL TOBACCO AND FIREARMS ARE
STATISTICS THAT ARE REPORTED ON
AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO.
.
YOU CANNOT TO BAN THESE THESE
ARE. THESE FIREARMS.
AND I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY IN
COURT IT'LL BE PROVEN.
SO.
WE NEED TO PUT OUR ATTENTION ON
CRIME CONTROL AS OPPOSED GUN
CONTROL BECAUSE GUN CONTROL ONLY
AFFECTS LAW ABIDING CITIZENS FOR
THAT ANIL WHOLE LOT OF OTHER
REASONS WE ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED.
NEXT WITNESS.
MADAM CHAIR FOR THE RECORD AND
REVERT NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION ALSO YOUR FIRST YEAR
HERE TODAY. OVER HERE IN
OPPOSITION UP THIS WAS SOMETHING
THAT WAS TRIED AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL. AND A CONGRESSIONAL
MANDATED STUDY.
SAID THAT HAD NO IMPACT ON
CRIME AYE BECAUSE SO CALLED
ASSAULT WEAPONS WERE ONLY USED
IN A FRACTION.
OF OF CRIMES NOW AS MY COLLEAGUE
MISTER PRENTICE PINTED OUT THIS
IS THE MOST POPULAR RIFLE IN THE
UNITED STATES THERE'S MORE THAN
FIFTEEN MILLION PLUS IN
CIRCULATION.
AND SO GIVEN THE STUDY THIS IS
JUST REALLY NOT HAVE AN IMPACT
AND AND I THINK THEY WERE ALL
COMMITTED TO REDUCING. OF
VIOLENCE AND GUN DEATHS IN I
THINK WINSTEAD WE SHOULD FOCUS.
OUR EFFORTS AND OUR RESOURCES
ON ENFORCING CURRENT LAWS
PROVIDING STIFF PENALTIES FOR
CRIMINAL MISUSE OF FIREARMS.
AND CLEARING OUR GIANT BACKLOG
HONOR CURRENT APPS SYSTEM OF
PEOPLE. THAT WE KNOW ARE
PROHIBITED THAT HAVE FIREARMS
THAT WE'VE THROWN.
TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT
WE STILL HAVE MORE THAN TEN
THOUSAND PEOPLE ON.
THIS LIST
FOR THOSE REASONS WERE
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN A
OPPOSITION.
RIGHT.
.
SCENE NINE.
.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
EXCELLENT A.
THANK YOU CENTER JACKSON FOR
BRINGING THE BILL.
IT'S A RESOLUTION.
.
I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'LL
GET ACTION BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY
SAY I COULD SPEAK LONG TIME ON
THIS SUBJECT BUT I WON'T PHOTO
CERTAINLY SAY THAT.
PEOPLE IN A MOVIE THEATER.
PEOPLE OF ALL.
OUR BABIES
CHILDREN IN SCHOOL NONE OF THEM
HAVE A CHANCE WHEN SOMEONE WALKS
IN WITH AN ASSAULT WEAPON.
AND.
HIS VERY DIFFERENT THAN A
HANDGUN IN WHILE I AM NOT A HUGE
FAN. OF BROAD ACCESS TO WEAPONS
PAYMENT ABSOLUTE OPPONENT TO ANY
AXIS OF MINUTES MILITARY STYLE
WEAPONS.
YOU CAN SLAUGHTER.
LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE AT A
TIME.
SO I THINK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
I HOPE THAT OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT DOES THE RIGHT THING.
AND WE WILL HAVE ROLL CALL
UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE CLOSE JUST
JUST BRIEFLY HARM. I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP PRESSURE
ON CONGRESS IT SEEMS SAID OUT WE
HAVE A SHOOTING.
A NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED WE GET
UPSET ABOUT IT FOR A WEEK AND
THEN WE GO ON UNTIL THE NEXT ONE.
AND I THINK THE STATEMENT FROM
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE IN PARKLAND
IS IT'S ENOUGH.
AND THE I THOUGHT IT WAS. ENOUGH
WHEN WE HAD THE. UPPER SHOOTING
AT AURORA IN THE SHOOTING AT
COLUMBINE AND WE COULD GO ON AND
LIST ON AND ON AND ON. CONGRESS
HAS GOT TO ACT I BELIEVE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE READY FOR
ACTION I BELIEVE THESE ARGUMENTS
THAT WE KEEP HEARING OVER AND
OVER AGAIN OUR SPEECHES
FALLACIOUS MISREPRESENTING THE
FACTS. IT IS TIME THAT WE CALL
UPON CONGRESS TO DO SOMETHING TO
EARN THEIR STRIPES TO RECOGNIZE
THE VOICE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
AND CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA. WITH THAT I'D
ASTRONOMICAL THANK YOU
ROLL CALL.
SKINNER.
I SKINNER AYE ANDERSON.
NO.
ANDERSON NOW BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON. JACKSON
AYE MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE STONO WIENER
AYE WIENER AYE.
SO EARLY CENTER JACKSON WANTED
TO PROVE THAT A. TWO YEAR OTHER
BILL S. B. TEN NINETY THREE
SINCE YOU'RE HEARING YOUR
WITNESSES ARE HERE AND THEN
WE'LL GO TO SENATOR BATES.
AND HERE I AM PREPARED TO MOVE
THAT BILL.
WHEN YOU THINK IT'S RIGHT
CERTAINLY THANK YOU. SO.
CENTER JACKSON WE ALREADY DO
HAVE A PREPARATION PROMOTION ON
YOUR BILL. COMES BUT YOU CAN
PROCEED BUT NO THAT WE.
.
GREAT.
SO WE HAVE AN EFFECT OF LAWS TO
PROTECT OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO.
IN THE COURSE OF THEIR WORK FIND
THEMSELVES UNDER. A THREAT
BY VERY VIRTUE THAT WORK AND
THIS IS A BILL THAT WILL HELP
ADDRESS A.
THE ISSUE OF HARASSMENT STALKING
AND THREATS THAT OCCURRED TO
ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES SO
SURE WORKERS AND INVESTIGATORS.
WHEN THEY GO OUT IN THE FIELD TO
ADD A TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.
OF OF THEIR CLIENTS ABOUT ABUSE.
A. THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AS
OUR COMMUNITIES AGE.
A WE NEED MORE AND MORE THESE
WORKERS THEY FREQUENTLY DO THEIR
WORK IN THE FIELD USING THEIR
OWN VEHICLES.
AND WHAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IS
THESE PERPETRATORS OF ABUSE OF
FREQUENTLY HER VERY VIOLENT
VINDICTIVE OFTENTIMES UNSTABLE.
AND WE'RE DISCOVERING THAT THEY
ARE INDEED STALKING THESE THESE
ARE OF A. SOCIAL SERVICE PEOPLE
ARE THREATENING THEIR HEALTH
THEIR SAFETY.
AND THIS IS A BILL THAT WOULD
TRUST ADD THEM A TO THE CURRENT
LIST OF THOSE WHO ARE A
PROTECTED.
.
IN THE.
PRIVACY OF OF THE INFORMATION
THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE
AVAILABLE THROUGH THE DMP. ARE
BASICALLY THIS IS.
I I THINK IT A BILL OF WHERE WE
NEED TO ADD THIS
A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO THAT THAT
VARY A PROTECTIVE LIST AND I
HAVE WITH ME TODAY. OF A COUNTY
WELFARE WORKERS ASSOCIATION.
I AND TO.
.
IT'D TO JUST BASICALLY REAFFIRM
I THINK THERE'S REALLY NOT A
WHOLE LOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THESE
FOLKS AS WELL AND WITH THAT I'D
ASK FOR YOUR I TALKED.
THANK YOU SENATOR THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS KATHY
SANDERLING WITH THE COUNTY
WELFARE DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION
WERE REALLY PLEASED TO SPONSOR
THIS LEGISLATION. AND ALLEN AS
YOU HEARD FROM SENATOR JACKSON
AS YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD A GROWING
NUMBER OF REPORTS.
OF FINANCIAL ABUSE PHYSICAL
ABUSE AND NEGLECT OF OUR ELDER
INDEPENDENT ADULT AS THE
POPULATION IS AGED ON WE ARE NOW
UP TO ABOUT A HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND A
DUPLICATED REPORTS. EACH YEAR
THAT WERE RECEIVING AND THAT'S
ACTUALLY GROW BY TIRTY FIVE
PERCENT OVER JUST THE LAST FOUR
YEARS PHILADELPHIANS THING MORE
AND WE'RE ADDING STAFF IN MANY
COUNTIES. WHAT WE NEED IS TO
ENSURE THAT THOSE STAFF FEEL
SAFE THAT WE CAN HIRE
PROFESSIONAL STAFF WERE WELL
TRAINED AND ENABLE THEM TO DO
THEIR JOBS WITHOUT? FEAR OF
INTIMIDATION AND HARASSMENT ON
ANECDOTALLY BECAUSE STATISTICS
ARE NOT KEPT WE ARE HEARING FROM
COUNTIES AND FROM THERE STAFF
THAT ON THERE ARE MANY INSTANCES
IN GROWING INSTANCES OF PHYSICAL
INTIMIDATION. THREATS TAKING
PHOTOS OF WORKERS AND SUCH ON
AND AS WE WERE TO REALLY
PROFESSIONAL AS THE WORKFORCE
AND EXPAND IT.
WE.
WE FIND THAT AS OUR CPS
COUNTERPARTS HAVE LONG BEEN
PROTECTED FOR DOING THE SAME JOB
OF INVESTIGATING ABUSE OR
NEGLECT. ARMED RECENTLY.
DOT COMMUNITY CARE LICENSING
INVESTIGATORS WERE ADDED TO THIS
CODE AS WELL WE JUST THINK IT'S
REALLY TIME TO ADD THE CPS
WORKERS THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN
HUNDRED AND FIFTY OF THEM RIGHT
NOW ACROSS THE STATE. WE DO HAVE
HERE TODAY MELISSA VIA LOBOS
WHOSE AND APS SUPERVISOR IN
SANTA CRUZ COUNTY TO JUST SHARE
AN INCIDENT THAT HE'S
EXPERIENCED ON TO ILLUSTRATE THE
NEED FOR THE BILL. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE THANK YOU. UP MY NAME
IS MELISSA VIA LOBOS AND.
CURRENTLY.
APS SUPERVISOR FOR THE COUNTY
OF SANTA CRUZ. AND ABOUT A YEAR
AGO.
WELL HE AS FIELD SOCIAL WORKER.
I RECEIVED A REFERRAL.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT IT IT
SPENT VIA SOMETHING STOOD OUT
AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY TYPICAL
ONE UMMER REPORTING PARTY WAS
CONCERNED OF AN EIGHT YEAR OLD
WOMAN. WHO IS BEING EMOTIONALLY
VERBALLY AND FINANCIALLY ABUSED
BY HER ADULT SON?
NOTHING STOOD OUT ON THIS
INITIAL REFERRAL SO YOU KNOW
LIKE I DO WITH EVERY REFERRAL
GET UP AND THEN GO TO MAKE MY
ANNOUNCED HOME VISIT.
.
I NEW THE NEIGHBOR THAT I WAS
GOING INTO WAS GOING TO E A
ROUGH ONE UP BUT AGAIN AND. THIS
IS WHAT WE DO EVERYDAY WE WE
KNOCK ON. DOORS AND WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THAT DOOR
OFTEN.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE PULLING
UP TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND AN
ADDRESS SO DRIVING YOU KNOW
REALLY SLOW UP AND DOWN. THE
STREET AND HAVING THAT NEIGHBORS
NOTICED YOU BEFORE YOU EVEN
NOTICE THEM.
FINALLY FIND THE HOME THAT I
NEED TO TO GO TO AND.
LIKE I DO WITH EVERY VISIT PARK
AWAY FROM THE HOME BECAUSE
THAT'S WE'VE BEEN TRAINED TO DO
FOR SAFETY.
BEFORE I CAN EVEN GET TO THE
FRONT DOOR I WAS GREETED BY TWO
GENTLEMAN.
.
AND AGAIN BEFORE I CAN INTRODUCE
MYSELF BECAUSE THEY START ASKING
ME LOTS OF QUESTIONS WHY WAS
THERE.
WHAT GAVE ME THE RIGHT TO BE
THERE AND AND YOU KNOW WHY
BASICALLY WHO I WAS AND AND WHAT
I WAS DOING THERE?
?
I LATER LEARNED THAT THIS IS ONE
OF THE ALLEGED ABUSERS THIS IS
THE ADULT SON AND WHILE I'M
SPEAKING TO THE OTHER.
MAIL THERE AT THE HOME.
HE WALKS OVER TO MY CAR INSERTS
TO WRITE DOWN MY LICENSE PLATE
ON HIS HAND.
.
THIS MADE ME THIS WOULD MAKE ME
NERVOUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
BUT REALLY IT THIS WAS A
GENTLEMAN WHO.
RIGHT AWAY NOTICED SOME SOME
FACE AND NECK.
.
I GIVE A VERY BRIEF IN VAGUE OF
REPORT OF WHILE I WAS THERE. AND
RELIEVE MY CONCERN WAS A SAFETY
FOR MY CLIENT.
I COULD NOT FIND HER HOME.
WHICH FOR ME MEANS THAT MY
MANDATE REQUIRES ME TO GO BACK
OUT TO THIS HOME.
A. AYE A LEAVE AND AT AS AS AS
I'M WALKING AWAY.
HE TELLS ME THAT I SHOULD BE
AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASKING
QUESTIONS.
AND THAT HE WOULD SEE ME AROUND.
.
THIS THIS WAS SCARY MY OF MY
LIFE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS
CHANGED.
.
I DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE
HAVING MY KIDS PLAY IN THE FRONT
YARD I WANTED THEM TO PLAY IN
THE BACKYARD. I CALLED A PARTNER
OF MINE WHO WORKS ON LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
AND BASICALLY SAID HEAD WENT TO
THIS HOUSE.
WHO IS THIS GUY IN AND WHEN
WOULD I MIGHT LOOKING AT AND HE
SAID ONE DON'T GO BACK OUT THERE
ALONE?
THIS HOME IS KNOWN AND IS
CONNECTED TO A VERY
SOPHISTICATED AND DANGEROUS A
GANG.
AND.
IT MAKES ME A BIT NERVOUS
SITTING HERE IN THIS PUBLIC
FORUM TO EVEN MENTION THAT THAT
PARTICULAR GANG BUT.
I WAS SCARED AND THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SAYS SIGH
DON'T WORRY YOU KNOW FOR. SOCIAL
SERVICES YOU GUYS ARE PROTECTED
YOUR YOUR INFORMATION IS
PROTECTED.
AND I REMIND HIM THAT NO.
ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES IS
ACTUALLY NOT PROTECTED CHILD
PROTECTIVE SERVICES SAYS BUT
WE'RE NOT.
AND EVEN PAUSES AND SAYS WELL
YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD BE FINE
BUT DON'T GO BACK OUT THERE
ALONE. UP THAT SHOULD BE FINE
DID NOT HELP ME SLEEP THAT NIGHT
IT DID NOT HELP ME SEAT OF THE
NEXT FEW WEEKS.
AND TO HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE
WHO'S ACTUALLY PROTECTED BY THIS
LAW THINGS A LITTLE BIT.
SO NEEDLESS TO SAVE MY LIFE
CHANGE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
AND.
I WAS FORTUNATE WHERE I DIDN'T
HAVE TO GO BACK OUT TO THE HOME
BECAUSE THIS CLAIM WAS ACTUALLY
A OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND I COULD
CONTACT HER.
BUT JUST A REMINDER TODAY THAT
WE LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE
CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES WE ARE
KNOCKING ON THE SAME DOORS WERE
WORKING IN THE SAME COMMUNITIES
WERE WORKING WITH THE SAME
FAMILIES. WE ARE INVESTIGATORS
ASKING.
TOUGH QUESTIONS SENSITIVE
QUESTIONS AND BEEN WEREN'T WERE
NOT THEY'RE SELLING THE. GROWTH
GOT COOKIES WERE THERE BECAUSE
THERE IS ABUSE NEGLECT HAPPENING
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOOR SO
WE ASK FOR THE SAME PROTECTION
AS OUR COUNTERPARTS.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
NICOLE MORTAL MEN ON BEHALF OF
THE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS
APART.
KAREN LANG ON THE OF THE CITY
AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO IN
SUPPORT.
REBEKAH GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN STRONG
SUPPORT.
JIM GROSS ABOUT THE CABS OF SAN
DIEGO CONTRA COSTA AND YOLO IN
SPORTS.
KELLY BRICKS ON BEHALF OF THE
VENTURA COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS ON THE RIVERSIDE
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HERE
IN SUPPORT.
MY AND HARD ON BEHALF THE SAN
MATEO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT.
MUCH OF HIS MAY MY KARADIC
GONNA BE HAVE THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS SANTA CLARA COUNTY
IN SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
WE HAVE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
PRICING KNOWN WILL TAKE THAT
MOTION GREAT WE HAVE A MOTION.
ROAD SEE ANY.
WAS ONLY DYESS AND.
CENTER JACKSON I THINK CLOSE TO
A YEAR OKAY GREAT SO WE WILL
RECESS FOR LIBEL.
THIS IS DUE PASSED TWO
APPROACHES.
AND I WILL DO ROLL CALL THANK
YOU
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE ANDERSON
AYE ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON JACKSON AYE
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE. DOWN AYE
WIENER AYE WIENER AYE.
EXCELLENT DOT FILL THIS OUT AND
WE WILL NOW MOVE TWO SENATOR
FADES.
S. B. ELEVEN A THREE
.
WELL GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS SLOB HERE WITH
SENATE BILL ELEVEN ALL THREE
WHICH ADDS FAN MAIL TO THE LIST
OF DANGEROUS DRUGS INCLUDING.
HEROIN AND COCAINE WHICH ARE
SUBJECT TO SEND SEEN HANSON IS
BASED ON WEIGHT.
A FIT NOW IS UP TO FIFTY TIMES
MORE POTENT THAN PHARMACEUTICAL
GRADE HEROIN AND IS OFTEN MIXED
INTO HEROIN AND OTHER DRUGS.
WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF USERS.
IT'S ALSO CHEAPER TO MAKE IT
EASIER TO TRANSPORT THAN HEROIN
AND THESE FACTORS MAKE OFF IT
NOW THEY'RE MERGING GO TO DRUG
FOR THE CARTELS.
BECAUSE OF ITS POTENCY OVERDOSES
ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE FATAL.
YOU CAN SHUT DOWN THE LUNGS IN
AS LITTLE AS TWO MINUTES WHICH
MEANS VICTIMS ARE LESS ABLE TO
BE RESUSCITATED. THAN THOSE WHO
OVERDOSE ON OTHER DRUGS.
AND NOW CAN ALSO BE DEADLY
SIMPLY IF IT BECOMES AIRBORNE OR
MAKES CONTACT WITH THE SKIN IN
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO
FIRST RESPONDERS.
AS SUCH S. B. ELEVEN ALL THREE
WILL CRACK DOWN ON DRUG CARTELS
AND HIGH LEVEL DRUG DEALERS.
THAT ARE DISTRIBUTING THE MASS
QUANTITIES OF THE THIS POISON.
THE BILL A KILOGRAM OF FENTANYL HAS A
STREET VALUE OF ANYWHERE.
FROM A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
TO SEVERAL MILLION.
I JUST LAST WEEK IN NEWPORT
BEACH THE COSTA MESA POLICE MADE
A BUST. AT OFFEND NO PILL LAB
WITHOUT SB ELEVEN ALL THREE
PROSECUTORS ARE ONLY ABLE TO
GIVE TWO TO FOUR YEARS IN PRISON.
WITH S. B. ELEVEN ALL THROUGH
THE THREE PROSECUTORS WOULD HAVE.
A TOOL TO GIVE THESE LARGE
SUPPLIERS THE FIVE YEAR
ENHANCEMENT FOR A NEW TOTAL
SENTENCE OF SEVEN TO ELEVEN
YEARS. THIS IS FIVE ADDITIONAL
YEARS OF BLOCKING THE SUPPLY AND
PROVIDING ARE THE ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR REHABILITATIVE
SERVICES IN THE PRISON SYSTEM.
SO THEY DO NOT GET RELEASED IN
GOAL BUT RIGHT BACK INTO
SUPPLYING AT THESE FATAL DRUGS.
ADDITIONALLY SB ELEVEN ALL THREE
GIVES LAW ENFORCEMENT A NEEDED
TOOL TO PREVENT AN EPIDEMIC OF.
DEATH AN OVERDOSE IS HAPPENING
ALL AROUND US.
IT'S THE BILL IS SUPPORTED BY
THE SAN DIEGO SHERIFF WILLIAM
COLE WILLIAM GORE. CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION ORANGE COUNTY BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS IN THE CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION. I'D
LIKE TO MENTION THE BILL IN NO
WAY IMPACT SENTENCES FOR END
USERS ARE FOR THOSE USING
MEDICAL FAN NOW. FORCE
LEGITIMATE PURPOSE.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME AS
YOU ALL KNOW I'VE ATTEMPTED TO
AUTHOR A BILL ON FAT NOW.
SINCE MY FIRST ATTEMPT IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN THE PROBLEM HAS ONLY
ESCALATED IN MORE LIVES HAVE
BEEN LOST
SO I TAKE THIS ISSUE VERY
SERIOUSLY AND I HOPE YOU ALL CAN
RECOGNIZE. THE IMPORTANCE OF
THIS EPIDEMIC PROMULGATED ARE
MOST IMPORTANTLY PROMULGATED BY
THE PRODUCERS AND IMPORTERS OF
THE LARGE QUANTITIES OF THIS
DEADLY SUBSTANCE.
IN THE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT NOW SO I URGE YOUR AYE
VOTE IN JOINING ON ME TODAY FROM
THE ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT.
IT'S UNDERSHERIFF DON BARNES AND
HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE
ABOUT THE BILL AND TO BRING ALL
FORWARD SOME OUTSIDE NEW
EMERGING INFORMATION. ABOUT THAT
NOW.
WITNESS SINCE BEFORE YOU CAN
PERCEIVE.
I AM SURE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS DON BARZINI
UNDERSHERIFF WITH ORANGE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. AND POLICE
TODAY TO REPRESENT THE SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT IN SUPPORT OF SB
ELEVEN A THREE WHICH PROVIDES
INCREASED PENALTIES FOR THOSE
WHO POSSESS. FENTANYL FOR THE
PURPOSES OF DISTRIBUTION OR SALE.
THIS LEGISLATION WILL MAKE THE
PENALTIES FOR SUCH TYPE OF
POSSESSION EQUIPMENT TO OTHER
DANGEROUS NARCOTICS LIKE COCAINE
OR HEROIN.
IN MY CAPACITY AS UNDERSHERIFF
OF THE ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT OVERSEE ALL NARCOTICS
INVESTIGATIONS WITHIN OUR
JURISDICTION.
THIS DRUG IS INCLUDED INCREDIBLY
DANGEROUS.
IT AFFECTS THE BRAIN AND NERVOUS
SYSTEM BY PRODUCING A EUPHORIC
HIGH EIGHTY TO ONE HUNDRED TIMES
STRONGER THAN MORPHINE. AND
THIRTY TO FIFTY TIMES STRONGER
THAN HEROIN.
OVERDOSING ON FENTANYL CAUSES
BLOOD PRESSURE DEPLOYMENT
DIMINISHES BREATHING AND INDUCES
DEEPLY COMMENT CAN LEAD TO DEATH.
WHEN THE LAST YEAR OF THE ORANGE
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT A
COTTAGE UNITS HAVE MADE SEVERAL
SEIZURES OF FIVE KILOS OF
FENTANYL. EQUIVALENT OF UP TO
TWO HUNDRED FIFTY KILOS OF
HEROIN
BECAUSE IT'S FENTON ALL.
BUT DOES NOT RISE OR ARE
INCLUDED IN THE SAME
ENHANCEMENTS OF HEROIN WOULD
HELP UPON THESE DRUG TRAFFICKERS.
AS YOU KNOW THIS LEGISLATION WAS
PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED IN TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN AT THAT TIME
THE COMMITTEE SAW THE WISDOM OF
THE BILL APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY UNANIMOUS
APPROVAL BY THE FULL SENATE
UNFORTUNATELY THAT LEGISLATION
WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE ASSEMBLY.
AND THE TWO YEARS SINCE THE
BILL'S DEFEAT THE PROBLEM HAS
ONLY GOTTEN WORSE.
THE LAST DECADE STATES ON THE
EAST COAST HAVE SEEN THE NUMBER
OF DEATHS RELATED TO FENTANYL
SKYROCKET.
THE TREND SEEN ON THE EAST COAST
IS NOW MADE ITS WAY TO
CALIFORNIA.
AND AGAIN TELL YOU WITH ANY
RESERVATION.
FENTANYL BEING TRAFFICKED IN
FROM CHINA THE EAST COAST IS NOW
COMING FROM SOUTH OF THE BORDER
AS OUR CARTELS IN MEXICO HAVE
BROKEN THE CODE. ON FENTANYL
PRODUCTION OR SEEING IT COME UP
THE FIVE FREEWAY IN FIFTEEN.
FOR DISTRIBUTION WITH IN
CALIFORNIA.
OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS THERE'S
BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE
ILLICIT USE OF DRUG FENTANYL IN
ORANGE COUNTY FROM TWO THOUSAND
TWELVE TO TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
WE SAW THREE HUNDRED THIRTY
PERCENT INCREASE.
AND THE NUMBER OF DEATHS THAT
OCCURRED WITH SENTINEL PRESENT.
FROM TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN TO TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN AMOUNT OF
ILLICIT FENTANYL ANALYZE BUT THE
ORANGE COUNTY CRIME LAB. MORE
THAN DOUBLED.
IN ADDITION TO THE DANGERS THIS
DRUG POSSESSES A USER'S IT ALSO
POSES A THREAT TO FIRST
RESPONDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
FENTON LL CAN BE ABSORBED THE
SKIN OR INHALED IF IT'S AIRBORNE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHO
UNKNOWINGLY COMING CONTACT IN
ADDITION TO FAMILIES WHO
UNKNOWINGLY COME IN CONTACT WITH
THE DRUG COULD FACE SIGNIFICANT
HEALTH RISKS.
AS RESULT IN LAST YEAR WE
COMPLETELY REVAMPED OUR
PROTOCOLS FOR THE HANDLING LA
CAUDEX SPECIFICALLY AS A RESULT
DEFENSE AND ALL.
OUR NARCOTICS INVESTIGATORS NOW.
.
DON THEMSELVES IN A FULL HAZMAT
GEAR DEVOID BEING INADVERTENTLY
DOSED WITH FOUNTAIN ALL.
WHY UNDERSTAND CONCERNS WITH
INCREASED SENTENCING I WILL TELL
YOU THAT BASED ON MY TWENTY NINE
YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WILL TAKE A
MULTI PRONGED APPROACH ELIMINATE
THE DRUG? OF THE THREAT OF THIS
DRUG.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE SUPPLY.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE DEMAND
IN ORANGE COUNTY WERE WORKING TO
EDUCATE OUR YOUTH AND PARENTS
THROUGH A DRUG USES LIKE HIDEOUS
ANTI DRUG PROGRAM.
ADDITIONALLY OUR COUNTY HAS WORK
TO SAVE THE LIVES OF ADDICTS BY
IMPLEMENTING THE USE OF NALOXONE.
WHEN THE FIRST LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES IN CALIFORNIA TO DO SO.
THE LOCKS OWN IS AN OPIATE
ANTAGONISED WHICH ALLOWS US TO
SAY THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO
OVERDOSE.
AND TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN WE
SAVED THREE LIVES IN TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN WE SAVE NINE
LIVES IN THIS PAST YEAR WE HAVE
TWENTY SAVES. BY USING THE LOCKS
ON.
WE IMPLORING WE ARE POURING
NUMEROUS STRATEGIES NOW WE NEED
THE FORCE OF LAW TO ASSIST US IN
HOLD ACCOUNTABLE THOSE WHO
PROFIT FROM THE DISTRIBUTION OF
THIS NARCOTIC.
THIS LEGISLATION IS NEEDED TO
SALUTE ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT
FINALLY GETTING HEAD OF THE
LEGAL SALE OF FENTANYL BEFORE
START SAYING THE HIGH LEVEL
OVERDOSE BATALHA HE'S. BEING
EXPERIENCE IN OTHER STATES
S. B. THIRTEEN TWENTY THREE A
PROPERLY TARGETS DEALERS RATHER
THAN USERS AND A LIMITS. ARE
ELIMINATES THE OUT SUPPLY COMING
INTO THE STATE.
IN MANY CASES DEALERS WILL LACE
FENTON ALL WITH OTHER DRUGS
PRIOR TO THE SALE.
UNBEKNOWNST TO THE END USER.
UNDER CURRENT LAW BASED ON THE
PENALTY STRUCTURE WE HEARD
INCENTIVIZING FENTON ALL OVER
HEROIN AND COCAINE EVEN THOUGH
FENTANYL IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS.
AND APPROVING A SPEED THIRTEEN
TWENTY THREE ANTHONY FENTON ON
THE SAME CATEGORY AS HEROIN AND
COCAINE WE'RE SENDING A MESSAGE
TO DRUG DEALERS THAT THERE WILL
BE CONSEQUENCES AT THE TRUCE TO
TRANSPORT. AND SELL THIS DEADLY
SUBSTANCE
I ASK YOU TODAY TO JOIN WITH
NUMEROUS LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES AND VOTE IN FAVOR OF SB
THIRTEEN TWENTY THREE.
I'M SORRY ELEVEN OF TRAINING DO
WE HAVE OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
AND COME TO THE MIKE.
GOOD MORNING SENATORS KAREN LAKE
IT AND YOU KNOW VERY WELL ON
FOUR KEY AT SAFETY.
THIS BILL SHOULD HAVE BEEN
PASSED LAST TIME.
PLEASE VOTE YES TOGETHER THROUGH.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU SENATOR
BATES.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
WHO SHALL MUCH ARE BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
NICOLE WARD WOMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF.
GAIL STEWARD ON BEHALF OF SAN
DIEGO COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
SUMMER STEPHAN IN SUPPORT.
JERRY MEMBERS JOHN INVOLVING
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATIONS.
SHAWN RONDEAU CALIFORNIA PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS MIKE
A DOCTOR OFF ON BEHALF OF THE
ACLU OF CALIFORNIA HERE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO SB
ELEVEN NO THREE.
NOW WITHOUT MINIMIZING THE HRMS
ASSOCIATED WITH FUND AND ALL WE
DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ELEVEN SB
ELEVEN OF THREE IS THE ANSWER
FIRST THIS BILL IS UNNECESSARY.
THERE ARE ALREADY SUFFICIENT
PENALTIES IN PLACE TO PUNISH THE
BEHAVIOR CONTEMPLATED BY THE
SPELL. UNDER EXISTING LAW A
PERSON WHO POSSESSES FENTON
OFFER SALE CAN ALREADY BE
PUNISHED BY UP TO FOUR YEARS IN
JAIL. AND UP TO FIVE YEARS FOR
SIMPLY OFFERING TO GIVE AWAY
FROM IT ALL.
ADDING EXCESSIVE NEW SENTENCE
ENHANCEMENTS FOR THESE CRIMES
WILL NOT MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES
SAFER.
THESE ENHANCEMENTS HAVE NOT
RESOLVED OUR PROBLEMS WITH
HEROIN THEY HAVE NOT RESOLVED
ARE PROBLEMS WITH COCAINE FEES
ARE STILL PROBLEMS IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. RESEARCH HAS ALSO
SHOWN THAT CERTAINTY OF
PUNISHMENT IS FAR MORE EFFECTIVE
AT DETERRING CRIME THAN SEVERITY
OF PUNISHMENT. AND PEOPLE
CHARGED WITH THESE UNDERLYING
CRIMES ARE ALREADY AWARE THAT
THEY WILL BE PUNISHED IF THEY
ENGAGE IN THIS BEHAVIOR. RATHER
THAN MAKING OUR COMMUNITIES
SAFER THIS BILL WILL ONLY ADD TO
OUR JAIL OVERCROWDING.
AND LASTLY THERE IS A GROWING
NATIONAL CONSENSUS THAT THE WAR
ON DRUGS HAS BEEN A MASSIVE
FAILURE.
AND.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ADDING
THESE ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS
ARE THE ANSAR. AND THEY WILL NOT
BE EFFECTIVE FOR THESE REASONS
WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT.
IN OPPOSITION FROM THE MIKE
QUICK.
THERE NICKBROKE HIM HALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION ASPECT WE MUST
OPPOSE THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT ANY OTHER NOT DOES
SENATOR STONE.
GOOD.
THANK YOU.
.
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
.
I WANT TO APPLAUD THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING THIS BACK AGAIN IT'S.
THIS IS GOING AFTER THE
DISTRIBUTION OF THIS VERY
DANGEROUS DRUG JUST TO KIND OF
PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE. AYE WHEN
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A KILO OF
OF FENTANYL.
THAT'S TWENTY MILLION.
ATTENTION ALL FATAL DOSES IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA SO TWO KILOS
COULD WIPE OUT.
THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW POTENT THE
DRUG IS.
WORK KILO IS EQUIVALENT TO ONE
LOOK AT ANOTHER TERMS.
IN BY WEIGHT IS A HUNDRED AND
TEN POUNDS OF HEROIN.
AND SO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE OF THE
GROWING NUMBER OF A NARCOTIC
OVERDOSES.
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
THEY'VE THEY'VE GROWN FROM
THREE THOUSAND TWENTY THOUSAND
IN THE PAST THREE YEARS. THAT'S
A FIVE HUNDRED FORTY PERCENT
RISE ACROSS THE NATION.
AND.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IT FAMILLES
NOT BE MARKETED AS FAT NO ON THE
COMMUNITY IS BEING MARKETED AS.
IS HEROIN SO. THE.
PERSON EXPERIMENTING WITH WHAT
THEY THINK IS HAIR WHEN IT'S
ACTUALLY FOUND NO THEY'RE
ACTUALLY GETTING. FIFTY TIMES
MORE POTENT DRUG AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING IS THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT WILL CONFIRM THIS
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY IS HERE
ACTUALLY. BEING CALLED AT NINE
ONE ONE CALLS FOR SOMEBODY
ACTUALLY HAS THE NEEDLE.
IN THE IN THE PERPETRATORS FARM
AND THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD FROM
RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION BECAUSE
OF. OF A HIGH POTENCY.
OF THIS DRUG.
CALIFORNIA WOULDN'T BE ALONE IN
PASSING THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION
TWENTY FIVE STATES HAVE ALREADY
DONE IT BEFORE BECAUSE. OF THE.
.
WERE SEEING FROM.
ILLICIT FENNO COMING IN FROM
ACROSS THE BORDER AND JUST SO
YOU KNOW FENNO IS SEE. A REAL
PRESCRIPTION DRUG.
BUT IT'S MEASURED IN MICROGRAMS
JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE
ONE MILLIGRAM.
IS A THOUSAND MICROGRAMS
YOU KNOW ONE MILLIGRAM OF SUGAR
LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A LITTLE
TINY VOYAGE IT JUST SHOWS YOU.
.
HOW POLL IN THIS IS AND WE USE
THAT TOPICALLY IN PATCHES
TRANSDERMAL PATCHES FOR PEOPLE
THAT HAVE?
YOU KNOW TERMINAL PAIN.
INTRACTABLE PAIN.
AND THEN THEY ALSO MAKE SUCKERS
WHERE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKING THE
SUCKER NESTS THE DOSAGE YOU GET
YOU* THE SUCKER DOWN WHEN
YOU GET THE PAIN RELIEF SO. THIS
IS A VERY POTENT DANGEROUS DRUG
BEING MARKET IS HEROIN THAT IS
KILLING YOUNG INNOCENT LIVES
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND
WE'VE GOT TO GET THE SUPPLIERS.
AND THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME TEETH
IN THE SENTENCING AND AND THIS I
BELIEVE IS GOING TO GO A LONG
WAY TO.
ALLEVIATING SOME OF THOSE TESTS
THAT WE'VE SEEN MANY OF WHICH
COULD BE PREVENTED HAVE THIS
BILL AND SIGNED INTO LAW IN TWO
THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN AND THAT'S
WHY I'M SO PASSIONATE. IN
SUPPORT OF IT IN THE. BANK.
SENATOR BASE FOR BRINGING
FORWARD AND I AM WOULD PROBABLY
MOVE IT.
APPROPRIATE TIME.
SENATOR JACK.
THERE ARE IDEA DON'T DISAGREE
WITH THE AT AND CERTAINLY NOT
GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THE
EXPERTISE OF OUR.
I'M MY GOOD COLLEAGUE THE
PHARMACIST
PHD.
.
BUT BUT LET LET ME.
.
LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND FED
KNOWS ALREADY.
POSSESSION OF IT'S ALREADY
ILLEGAL IS NOT MAY I INQUIRE
THROUGH THE CHAIR.
YES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS FENNEL IS
ALREADY. ILLEGAL EXEC CORRECT.
SO.
.
IT'S USUALLY CUT WITH HEROIN AND
THEN THE HEROIN.
.
ENHANCEMENT THEREFORE ALREADY
APPLIES TO IS THAT CORRECT IF
THAT IS TRUE BUT WILL RUNNING
RUNNING INTO A STRAIGHT FENTANYL
WHICH DOESN'T APPLY AND IN THE
CONTEXT OF LEGISLATION AND.
PREVIOUSLY.
THE MAIN SUPPLIER OF FENTON ALL
IN CAR FENTON ALL HAS BEEN CHINA
AS I UNDERSTAND IT. AND LAST
YEAR THEY ADDED TO THEIR
SCHEDULE DRUG LIST.
A SUCH THAT THE D. E. A. NOW
BELIEVES THAT THIS WILL
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE
SUPPLIES THAT CORRECT.
I BELIEVE THERE IS INTENT TO
DECREASE THE SUPPLY ALL THAT THE
SUPPLIES NOT DECREASING IT'S
ACTUALLY INCREASING.
IT'S COMING FROM MEXICO NOW
MEXICO INSTEAD OF FROM CHINA
SURVEYS PICKED UP WHERE CHINA'S
LEFT OFF.
.
NOW.
.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS
LEGISLATION.
THAT WILL PROVIDE EDUCATION TO
USERS AND ABUSERS AND.
WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THIS
DANGEROUS STRUGGLE WE KNOWN HERE
BECAUSE WE HEAR FROM? THE
EXPERTS AS TO HOW DANGEROUS AND
LIFE THREATENING IS TO ASSIST
BILL ADDRESS THAT PART OF THE.
EPIDEMIC OF FENTANYL.
I'VE SENATOR JACKSON LET ME
ANSWER THAT THERE'S NOT A
MANDATE WHICH WOULD BE PART OF A
REGULATION BUT. OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY AUTHORITY
TAKEN OUT UPON THEMSELVES.
TO EDUCATE OUR AROUND THE
COMMUNITY WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR
PRESENTATIONS TO DRUG ABUSE HIS
WIFE ABUSE OF THE VARIOUS
PROGRAMS.
DRUG ABUSE IS LIFE ABUSES AN
ORANGE COUNTY I'M NOT SURE IF
THAT'S STATEWIDE THAT THAT'S
WHERE THE EDUCATION IS GOING ON
AND THEY'VE TAKEN UPON
THEMSELVES TO DO THAT. AND EVEN
THE HOSPITALS BECAUSE OF THE
DRUG OFFEND KNOWS BEING LACED
WITH A ACTUAL MEDICATION THAT
THEY'RE USING HOSPITALS THEY'VE
HAD. TO SET UP EVEN MORE
SCREENING TO MAKING SURE THAT
THEY'RE NOT GETTING ALL OF THOSE
OUT BETTER LACED WITH SPENT NOW
IN FACT I REFUSE TO A DRUG WHEN
I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL RECENTLY
BECAUSE I KNEW FENTANYL BEEN
LACED INTO. A NUMBER OF THE
PRESCRIPTIONS AND I WAS
CONCERNED UNDERSTANDING OUR
HOSPITALS HAVE VERY GOOD VETTING
SYSTEM BUT YOU DON'T KNOW
BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING SO
PERVASIVE. SO EDUCATION IS GOING
ON AT THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER
LEVEL LOG FOR CEMENT SO I DIDN'T
FEEL A NEED TO PUT THAT. INTO
THE BILL IT IT WE DISCOVERING
THAT IT THROUGH THE CHAIR FOR ME
THAT THAT IS HAVING A POSITIVE
IMPACT AS PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT THE
STRUGGLE WHICH WE DIDN'T REALLY
KNOW.
AS MUCH ABOUT IT AS WE HAVE
HEROIN FOR EXAMPLE OF THE LAST.
YOU KNOW DECADES ANALYSTS AT
HAVING IT'S AN IMPACT.
I WOULD SAY NO BECAUSE YOU SEE
THE RISE IN THE USAGE IN THE
DEPTHS.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING NATIONWIDE
AYE I THINK. YOU KNOW TO ME OF
ALMOST.
AND WHAT YOUR PHONE MOST
ILLOGICAL DOWN HEROIN AND
COCAINE OUGHT WITH THESE.
ENHANCEMENTS WE'RE MOVING
FENTANYL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
QUESTION IO'S BECAUSE FENTANYL
IS NOT THERE IS THAT WHY THE USE
OF COCAINE AND HEROIN HAS
DROPPED OFF.
I FELT NOW WAS INCREASED
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I SEE THAT'S
WHY I THINK.
CLASSIFYING IT IN THE SAME
CATEGORY.
WITH WHICH ALREADY HAVE SENSE
AND HARASSMENTS
IS GOING TO MAKE AN EQUIVALENT
IN TERMS OF.
THIS IS GOING TO GET CHIU ARE A
BIG TIME IAN AS A SUPPLIER IN A
PRODUCER. LONG TIME IN PRISON
THAT'S WAY YOU INTERCEPT THE
PRODUCTION IN THE DISTRIBUTION
WE'RE NOT WE'RE HAVING NO AFFECT
ON THAT RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHY YOU
SEE IT RIGHT THINK. THE DEATHS
FROM HEROIN AND COCAINE OR
MINIMIZE BECAUSE FENTANYL'S
TAKEN OVER.
SO I GUESS I GUESS MY PROBLEM
WITH THIS.
AND WHY I ABSTAINED LAST YEAR
AND I'M INCLINED TO ABSTAIN THIS
YOU'RE NOT THAT I DON'T
NECESSARILY AGREE THIS IS
DANGEROUS PROP.
BUT YOU KNOW WHEN WE.
RAISED THE OF PUNISHMENT FOR
COCAINE AND HEROIN ON IT DIDN'T
STOP THE.
COCAINE AND HEROINE I'M LOOKING
TO HAVE TO FIND SOME OTHER
AVENUE THAT SO WE END UP PUTTING
MORE MORE PEOPLE IN JAIL AND
OTHER PEOPLE. SUBSTITUTE FOR
THEM IT DOESN'T SEEM TO
DETERMINE THOSE CRIMINALS WHO
ARE DETERMINED TO CREATE. OF
THIS AVENUE IN THIS BUSINESS IT
IF YOU WILL.
OUT BY JUST THE.
I KNOW WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM I
JUST HAVE A.
IT DIDN'T WORK FOR COCAINE IT
DIDN'T WORK FOR HEROIN WHAT
MAKES YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO
WORK WITH FENNEL TO RACE LIKE
HIM WHO BACK TO MY POINT THAT.
IT IS WORKING BECAUSE THOSE ARE
NO LONGER THE DRUG OF CHOICE
VANDALISM WHEN CHIU ASSUME THEN
BECAUSE OF THE FENCE WITHOUT AS
MUCH LEFT. IN YOUR TALK ABOUT
QUANTITIES ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
WINDOWS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
KILOS A SENATOR OB.
STONE SHAW DESCRIBE IN YOU WERE
TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING
THAT CAN MEET TRUCKLOADS OF OF
THIS BEING IMPORTED IN THEN
DISTRIBUTED TO THEIR. THAT ONCE
YOU PUT IT TO LACE IT WITH THE
OTHER DRUGS SO I MEAN I THINK
THE ARGUMENT AS THAT BECAUSE FED
NOW IS NOW THE DRUG OF CHOICE
AND HAVE THE LESSER. OF PENALTY
ALONG WITH IT WHY NOT GO THERE
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING
AND THEY'RE MAKING MILLIONS.
MUCH MORE ON THAT THAN THEY MAKE
ON HEROIN Y. WERE KILLED USING
HEROIN A COUPLE YEARS AGO IT WAS
CHEAPER NOW FENTANYL ACHIEVE
GREATER HAVE A LESSER SENTENCE.
SO WHY WOULDN'T BE THE DRUG OF
CHOICE UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING
HERE TO ENSURE THAT GUESS WHAT
IT IF NOT IN EITHER. OF YOU KNOW
GO AROUND ALL THE CURRENT
PROBLEMS WITH DRUGS AND AND I
THINK THE OPPONENTS OF SAID WE
HAVE FAILED MISERABLY ON THE WAR
ON DRUGS. OUGHT THAT'S BECAUSE
YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A
DISTRIBUTION OF SOMETHING THAT
HAS A LESSER PENALTY AND IT'S
EASY TO MAKE. AND IT'S JUST
RAMPANT I MEAN WE KNOW THAT
TWENTY FIVE STATES HAVE JOINED
THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DRUG.
THANK YOU I GUESS IF I WAS
PERSUADED THAT INCREASING THE
SENTENCING WOULD STOP THESE
CARTELS AND WHAT HAVE YOU I
WOULD SUPPORTED I JUST.
HISTORY JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT BUT I DO
APPRECIATE YOUR. YOUR EFFORTS
HERE AND I WONDER IF.
.
IF YOU WERE ARM WILLING TO
TAILOR THE BILL SO THAT IT WOULD
RECORD.
THE ABILITY OF THE DISCRETION SO
THAT THE COURT MAY IMPOSE.
ADDITIONAL SENTENCING RATHER
THAN SHALL SHALL I THINK THE
WORDING SHALL RECEIVE
WE DID IT WOULD YOU BE A BE VERY
OPEN ABOUT CERTAINLY.
IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION SENATOR JACKSON'S.
THANK YOU.
I'M.
SO BEFORE WE ASK YOUR CLOTHES I
JUST WANT TO CORRECT FOR THE
RECORD ACTUALLY HEROIN DEATHS
ARE ON THE RISE IN THE US AND
ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS FOR
DISEASE CONTROL FOR TWENTY
FIFTEEN TO TWENTY SIXTEEN.
HEROIN. OVERDOSE DEATH RATES
INCREASED
ACROSS THE US.
BY NINETEEN POINT FIVE PERCENT
YES FENTANYL DEATHS HAVE ALSO
INCREASED BUT HEROIN DEATHS HAVE
NOT DROPPED
SO WHILE WE HAVE PEACE
ENHANCEMENTS FOR HEROIN DEATHS.
WE HAVE A INCREASE OF TWENTY
PERCENT ON HERO INTO.
SO THE FACT THAT THE ENHANCEMENT
EXISTS.
IS.
HAS NOT DECREASED HEROIN DEATHS
SO I THINK WE JUST.
IT'S ONE TO PUT THAT ON THE
RECORD IN THAT I CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE YOU HAVE OTHER
REASONS. FOR WANTING THE
ENHANCEMENT IN THE CASE OFFEND
NO BUT I THINK THAT. WE JUST
FROM A DATA POINT OF VIEW. IT IS
NOT ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF THE
HEROIN ASPECT REDUCE THE DEATH.
AND AS WAS CLARIFIED IF
FENTANYL IS MIXED WITH THOSE A.
GROAT DRUGS THAT ALREADY HAVE
THIS ENHANCEMENT LIKE YOU'RE
DOING COCAINE OR COCAINE BASE.
THE ENHANCEMENT EXISTS.
ADDITIONALLY.
WE'VE NOW HAVE.
QUANTITIES OF.
KILOGRAM IN ABOVE BEING
INTERVENED.
RATHER IF OUR LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT WORKS WITH FEDERAL
AND D. E. A.. IS THE FEDS THAT
STEP IN.
IN THE ENFORCEMENT OR IN AND
AROUND. THAT QUANTITY OF
FENTANYL AND ABOVE.
SO I.
THE NECESSITY TO ADD IT
TO OUR STATE LAW IS.
IN EFFECT WHAT MY AND.
OBJECTION IS TO.
PASSING THE BILL AND THIS IS
IDENTICAL TO THE PROVISION THAT
WE DEFEATED LAST YEAR AND YES
YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE RIGHT TO
BRING IT BACK. BUT I WILL REMAIN
IN MY OBJECTION FOR THE REASONS
THAT I STATED.
SO I THINK.
THERE WAS A MOTION.
ON THE BILL AND.
STEVE PASSED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CENTER NAY CLOSING HER JUST LET
ME CLARIFY AND HEROIN GAS YOU
ACTUALLY OCCUR OUT.
BUT NOT THE COMPLETE ANSWER
FENTANYL IS BEING LACED WITH
CAROLINE AND THAT'S WHY THE
DEATH INCREASED IN THAT STREET
OUT OF THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE
DISEASE.
TROLL AND ON DRUG BADLY
OUTREBOUNDED YES SIR AND THEY
ARE THEY DO SEPARATE THE TWO AND
I I DID PULL UP THE. THE RATE ON.
FENTANYL ADDITIONALLY AMPHENOL
HERE WHEN NEXT
THOUGH THE INCREASE IN HEROIN
DEATHS IS ALSO INDEPENDENT OF
THE MIX OF FENTANYL.
SO THE WAR ON DRUGS IS STILL
FAMILY.
BASICALLY WE ANYONE FOR
SOMETHING SO IN CLOSING I WOULD
TO ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE FOR ALL
THE REASONS WE'VE ALREADY PUT
FORWARD. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE ROLL CALL.
SKINNER NO
SKINNER NOW ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL NOW STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER METER NOW.
THE VILLAGE ON CALL ON WE WILL
GRANT THREE CONSIDERATION IF THE
BILL FAILS AND WE CAN DISCUSS.
.
IF PRODUCTION.
THEY ARE RIGHT HERE OKAY THANK
YOU SO NOW I JUST NOW ONE THIRTY
ONE.
OKAY.
ALRIGHT.
WE WILL GO TO.
THIS YEAR.
SENATOR NIELSEN.
HELLO WE GO THROUGH THE BILL.
OKAY WILL GO TO SENATOR NIELSEN.
WHICH IS.
ITEM FOURTEEN S. B. TWELVE
SEVENTY ONE.
MORNING.
AMERICAN MEMBERS.
TWELVE SEVENTY ONE.
IS.
MY WAY OF ADVANCING A DISCUSSION
THAT I THINK IS NECESSARY.
OF LATE WE'VE SEEN SOME
INCIDENCES OF.
SIGNIFICANT VIOLENCE.
ON OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES IN
CALIFORNIA.
THAT INARGUABLY ARE DISRUPTIVE.
THE CAMPUS MISSION AND PURPOSE.
DESTRUCTIVE OF PERSON AND
PROPERTY.
IN ONE PARTICULAR INSTANCE SIX
INDIVIDUALS WERE INJURED.
AND ABOUT A HALF A MILLION
DOLLARS WORTH OF DAMAGE.
WAS ACCOMPLISHED.
NOT BY THOSE WHO WERE THERE
PEACEFULLY BUT BY THOSE WHO CAME.
I WOULD ARGUE WITH ILL INTENT.
AND THEY WERE MASKED.
FOR THAT PURPOSE.
NOW.
IT'S AN ARGUABLE THAT WHEN.
THE INDIVIDUAL WHO COME ONTO A
CAMPUS.
IN A TENSE SITUATION.
DRESSED DISEASE INDIVIDUALS WERE.
ANY REASONABLE STUDENT WOULD
HAVE CAUSE FOR CONCERN FOR THEIR
PERSONAL SAFETY.
I ARGUED THIS BILL JUST SIMPLY.
EXPANDS OR RESTATES RATHER.
THE EXISTING LAW.
BUT IT'S PURPOSE.
IS TO INCREASE THE SERIOUSNESS
BAY WATCH THIS BEHAVIOR IS
ACCEPTED.
BY CAMPUS SECURITY.
OR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY HAVE SOME DISCRETION.
IN DETERMINING.
WHETHER.
THIS.
BARB SHALL I SAY.
THE. IS AND IN A MANNER OF THE
OVERT ATTEMPT TO.
HIDE.
IDENTITY.
OR IN ANY WAY TO.
MASK THE PURPOSE
NASH THE PURPOSE MEANING.
THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR HAULING.
OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I THINK.
ARGUABLY.
DID NOT.
EXERT ENOUGH SERIOUSNESS.
WHEN THEY CONFRONTED THE
SITUATIONS.
THEN THEY WERE ALLOWED TO.
TO GET OUT OF HAND.
I'LL NOT MAKE THE ACCUSATION
THAT THEY WERE ORDERED TO STAND
DOWN.
BUT I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR.
THAT THEY.
EXERCISE FOR MORE CAUTION.
THEN THE SITUATION.
WARRANTED.
PARDON.
THREE.
GO AHEAD CENTER REALISTICALLY
WEALTHY YEAH THEY DIDN'T SHOOT
ANYBODY.
BUT IS THAT ARE CAST.
THEY COME WANT IT THE PROPERTY
AND THEY PHYSICALLY HARM SOMEONE.
NOT A SHOOTING.
BUT PHYSICAL HARM.
IS THAT OUR TEST.
WELL HOW.
I THINK IF YOU ASK A LOT OF
FAMILY MEMBERS.
OF STUDENTS AT OUR UNIVERSITIES.
THAT WOULD NOT BE THEIR TEST.
DID SOMEONE GET SHOT.
AND WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
ARE GETTING IN THE HABIT.
OF SUCH RESTRAINT.
THEN UNDERSTAND THEY ARE TRAINED.
TO DISCERN CERTAIN RED FLAGS.
MASKS.
OR SUCH A RED FLAG.
MAYBE NOT.
FINAL RED FLAG.
BUT CERTAINLY ONE THAT ELEVATES.
CONCERN.
AND WHEN THAT BEHAVIOR THEN OF
THE MASKED INDIVIDUALS OR THE
COSTUMED INDIVIDUALS.
RISES.
THE DESTRUCTIVE ACTS.
AGAINST PERSON OR PROPERTY.
WE HAVE THAT RACIAL.
IS JUST WE WANT OUR CAMPUS IS TO
BE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THE
COMMITTEE I DO NOT. THINK SO.
AND THEREFORE I SUBMIT.
THE BILL FOR YOU IN THIS FORM.
FOR THIS PURPOSE.
WERE IT TO ADVANCE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO.
FINE TUNE LANGUAGE.
AS LONG IS THAT LANGUAGE IN
COLLUDED.
VERBIAGE.
THE BROUGHT A GREATER SENSE OF
GRAVITY.
TO THIS SITUATION.
THAT HAS NOW.
UNEQUIVOCALLY COMPROMISED.
THE INTEGRITY OF OUR CAMPUSES.
THAT'S ABOUT THE BILL.
THANK YOU.
ARE THERE WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ALRIGHT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS MIKE A
DOCTOR OFF ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU
OF CALIFORNIA HERE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO THE
MEASURE. BUT WE ARE OPPOSED FOR
TWO PRIMARY REASONS FIRST THIS
BILL IS UNNECESSARY IT IS
ALREADY A MISDEMEANOR IN
CALIFORNIA TO WEAR A MASK FOR
THE PURPOSE OF A FEEDING OR
ESCAPING IDENTIFICATION AND THE
COMMISSION OF A CRIME. IT IS
ALSO A MISDEMEANOR IN CALIFORNIA
TO WEAR A MASK FOR THE PURPOSE
OF CONCEALMENT FLIGHT OR ESCAPE
ONE CHARGED WITH ARRESTED FOR OR
CONVICTED OF A CRIME.
THIS LAW BOTH OF THESE LAWS
ALREADY APPLY TO PEOPLE IN
PUBLIC SPACES ON SCHOOL COLLEGE
AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES AS IT
DOES IN ANY OTHER PUBLIC PLACE.
WE DO NOT NEED A SEPARATE CRIME
TO PUNISH THE BEHAVIOR
CONTEMPLATED BY SB SET TWELVE
SEVENTY ONE. SECOND WE ARE
CONCERNED THAT SB TWELVE SEVENTY
ONE COULD BE USED AS A PRETEXT
FOR UNCONSTITUTIONAL CONTENT
BASED CENSORSHIP IN THE CONTEXT
OF LAWFUL CAMPUS PROTESTS.
AS SENATOR NELSON EXPLAINED ONE
OF THE INCIDENTS GIVING RISE TO
SB TWELVE SEVENTY ONE INVOLVED A
TO TWENTY SEVENTEEN PROTEST AT
UC BERKELEY'S CAMPUS. DURING
WHICH A SEGMENT OF THE
PROTESTERS WORE BANDANNAS AND
MATH TO COVER THEIR FACES. THE
SENATOR MENTIONED THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT DID NOT DO ENOUGH AT
THAT INCIDENT HOWEVER WAS NOT
THE ABSENCE OF THIS LAW. THAT
INFLUENCED LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
DECISIONS WITHOUT QUESTIONING
THE PUBLIC SAFETY DECISIONS.
NEED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THAT
TIME THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
CURRENT LAW WOULD HAVE PERMITTED
THEM TO ARREST ANYBODY THAT THEY
HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE
WAS COMMITTING A CRIME AND UPON
ARREST COULD HAVE REQUIRED THOSE
PEOPLE TO REMOVE THEIR MASKS.
PERMITTING LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS TO REQUIRE A PERSON
TERM ROOF A MASK WHEN THERE IS
NO PROBABLE CAUSE FOR ARREST AS
SB TWELVE SEVENTY ONE PROPOSES.
COULD EASILY LEAD TO DEFERENTIAL
ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROPOSED LOB
BASED ON THE CONTENT OF THE MASS
PERSONS MESSAGE. THE MOTH
PERSON'S IDENTITY APPEARANCE
OR THE MANNER OF PROTEST.
IT IS ALSO UNCLEAR WHETHER THE
BILL IS SUFFICIENTLY TAILORED TO
BALANCE LEGITIMATE STATE
INTEREST AGAIN AGAINST LAWFUL
FIRST AMENDMENT SPEECH. AND FOR
THESE REASONS WE ARE OPPOSED TO
THE SPELL.
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
SENATE JACKSON.
THANK YOU ARE I WASN'T GOING TO
SAY MUCH BUT.
.
I DID WANT TO RESPOND TO THE
POINT ABOUT.
A HOW THE.
LAN FORSMAN OFFICERS CONDUCTED
THEMSELVES AND MY COMMENT ABOUT
THAT NO ONE WAS SHOT WAS
ACTUALLY. BOTH.
.
OUT IN RELIEF AND.
I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE NEED
TO ADDRESS WHEN WE ASK HOW
SHOULD LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPOND
TO THESE KINDS OF EVENTS SO I
APPRECIATE. THAT THE SITUATION
CLEARLY GOT OUT OF HAND.
I APPRECIATED THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT I THINK WAS PROBABLY
TAKEN BY SURPRISE.
OF I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
WE'RE SEEING PROTESTS NOW ALL
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE
BECOME. A MORE AGGRESSIVE MORE
HOSTILE A ANGRIER MORE DIVISIVE.
A MORE HATEFUL AND IN SOME
INSTANCES MORE VIOLENT AND I
THINK BACK ON WHAT HAPPENED. OF
WHEN A YOUNG MAN SAW FIT TO
DRIVE HIS CAR THROUGH A SERIES
OF PROTESTERS WHOSE OPINIONS HE
DIDN'T SHARE KILLING A YOUNG
WOMAN.
SO I THINK AGAIN THIS ALL GOES
BACK TO THE FACT THAT.
WE HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS THE. THE
THE LEVEL OF VITRIOLIC HATRED
AND INTOLERANCE THAT WE'RE
SEEING IN OUR SOCIETY BUT. I DO
BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ALREADY A
LAW ON THE BOOKS I ALSO AS I
UNDERSTAND IT.
THERE WAS A A BROADER ANTI
MASQUE LAW SIMILAR TO WHAT
YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE
THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN IS A
VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT
AND EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSES AS
WAS ARTICULATED BY THE ACLU.
SO I THINK AGAIN.
WHILE I APPRECIATE AND.
IN CONCERNED ALSO WITH THE VOTE
LEVEL OF VIOLENCE WE'RE SEEING
IN THESE EVENTS. THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT DOES HAVE THE TOOLS
ARE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
TRAINED TO IT'S A DIFFERENT
WORLD TODAY SADLY. ARE THAT IT
WAS A DECADE OR TWO AGO WHEN.
THERE WERE THESE.
PROTESTS WHETHER ON COLLEGE
CAMPUSES ARE IN THE STREETS OF
OUR CITIES I THINK WE ACTUALLY
SHOULD ALL TAKE A LESSON. FROM
THE WOMEN'S MARCHES THAT WE'VE
SEEN OF BOTH A YEAR AGO WITH
THREE MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE
WORLD AND THEN THE MARCHES.
PROMOTED BY THE YOUNG PEOPLE AT
PARKLAND.
NOT A SINGLE ARREST.
THINK ABOUT IT THREE MILLION
PEOPLE PROTESTING NOT A SINGLE
ARREST TO PLACE BECAUSE HE WAS A
NONVIOLENT EFFORT AND I THINK
THAT THAT'S. WHAT WE SHOULD BE
SEEKING RATHER THAN?
?
YEAH I'S SORT OFADDRESSING
VIOLENCE WITH VIOLENCE AND I
APPRECIATE SENATORS CONCERNED.
AND I SHARE THE CONCERN I THINK
THIS IS THE WRONG APPROACH.
AND THAT WANTED TO CLARIFY MY
COMMENTS AND. TO APPRECIATE YOU
BRINGING.
TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE I
DON'T THINK THIS IS THE WAY. AND.
I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT BUT
I IS I WANTED TO MAKE MY
POSITION CLEAR SO.
I UNDERSTAND.
SENATOR ANDERSON I'D LIKE TO
MOVE BILL.
THE. BILL WAS MOVED.
.
I THINK THE ANALYSIS INDICATES
THAT.
.
WE HAVE AS IT WAS STATED THAT
LAWS ON THE BOOKS AND OTHER LAWS
THAT HAVE BEEN SIMILAR HAVE BEEN
THROWN OUT BY THE COURT SO I.
WILL. NOT BE VOTING ON THE BILL
TODAY. BUT SENATOR NIELSEN YOU
MAY CLOSE.
WELL.
THIS LEGISLATURE HAS NOT EVER
APPROVED HESITANT ABOUT.
CORRECTING BILLS WERE LAWS WHERE
THEY'VE FOUND DEFICIENCIES.
AND THIS IS ONE.
THOUGH THERE MAY BE MISDEMEANORS
ON THE BOOKS OR THOUGH A SEARCH
AND REMOVAL MAY OCCUR.
IT'S CLEAR TO ME WITH THE
REPETITIOUS BEHAVIOR THAT IS
OCCURRING ON OUR CAMPUSES.
MORE IS NEEDED.
MAYBE SOME OF THAT IS TRAINING.
I'LL BUY THAT.
BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE
MANDATED TRAINING.
BECAUSE THE TRAINING APPARENTLY
ON SOME CAMPUSES IS NOT
SUFFICIENT OR ADEQUATE.
I AM SPEAKING FOR THE WHAT I
CALL THE AVERAGE CALIFORNIA.
STUDENT.
A FAMILY MEMBER.
AND PUT MYSELF.
PATHETICALLY IN THEIR SHOES.
ONE SUCH INDIVIDUALS WOULD COME
ON CAMPUS.
THEN WATCH
SUCH ESCALATION OCCURS.
PERSONAL PROPERTY WHO ARE HARMED.
AND THEN WE ARE TO ACCEPT THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA THAT THIS
IS NO BIG DEAL ON OUR CAMPUSES.
IS THIS BECOMING THE NORM.
A WE DESENSITIZING OURSELVES.
I THINK WE MUST NOT AYE URGENT
AYE VOTE.
WE WILL.
.
TAKE A ROLL CALL.
MOTION IS TO PASS THROUGH
APPROPRIATIONS. SKINNER.
ANDERSON ARE ANDERSON AYE
BRADFORD.
JACKSON NO JACKSON NOW MITCHELL.
MITCHELL LAOS DOWN. DOWN AYE
WIENER.
WILL HOLD THE RULE OPEN THANK
YOU AND EFFECTIVE DOES NOT
SECURE THE VOTES I WOULD ASK
RECONSIDERATION IN THE EVENT
THAT'S OTHERS EXIGENT
CIRCUMSTANCES.
COME FORWARD THAT MIGHT ALLOW.
CONSIDERATION OF SOME AMENDMENTS.
THANK YOU THANK YOU GRANT
RECONSIDERATION.
YEAH.
WITH THAT SO.
.
SENATOR ANDERSON WOULD YOU LIKE
TO.
GO AHEAD
.
RIGHT INTERFERE.
WELL LET'S START WITH S. B. TEN
NINETY TO HAVE BUT THAT ONE.
OKAY.
YEAH MY LITTLE ARE MOVING
FORWARD.
S. B. TEN NINETY TWO IS DESIGNED
ONLY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND
WELFARE. OF HUNTERS AND
SPORTSMEN IN THEIR ANIMALS.
WITH ITS PASSAGE HUNTERS WOULD
BE ALLOWED TO USE FEDERALLY
LICENSED IN LEGALLY OBTAINED
SUPPRESSORS WHILE HUNTING.
ATTACHING A SUPPRESSOR OR
SILENCER INTO A HANDGUN IT
ANYTIME
STILL REMAINS A FELONY IN
CALIFORNIA.
THE PRESSURES ARE SILENCERS ARE
NOT SILENT THEY SIMPLY MUFFLE.
THE FIREARM.
IF WE NEVER ALLOWED TO HAVE
INSTALLED MUFFLERS ON CARS WOULD
ALL BE DEAF OR HARD OF HEARING
NOW.
CONCRETE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD
PARTNERS DO NOT USE
OR SHOULD NOT WEAR EAR
PROTECTION WHILE HUNTING.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT FOR
THEIR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.
AND THEY ARE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
MUFFLE THEIR FIREARMS IN
CALIFORNIA.
.
DICE LA DAMAGING THEIR HEARING
HEALTH AND EVEN RUNNING THE RISK
OF HEARING LOSS EACH TIME THEY
TAKE A SHOT.
I ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE.
ALLOW OUR CITIZENS.
WHO DO HEART TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES
DURING THIS LEGAL ACTIVITY WITH
ME TODAY ARE KNOX WILLIAMS
PRESIDENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE AMERICAN SUPPRESSORS
ASSOCIATION IN MISTER RICK
ROSENFIELD?
WHOSE OWN EXPERIENCE WITH
SHOOTING IN HEARING LOSS IS VERY
INFORMED.
MANAGER THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
ALLOWING US TO COME BACK AND NOT
TESTIFYING FROM THE COMMITTEE
AGAIN. NAM LAST TIME I HAVE
REALLY ENJOYED THE DISCUSSION
THAT WE HAD AND WOULD LIKE TO.
THAT FURTHER THAT DISCUSSION.
.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE JUST PASSED
OUT AND THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR
SYSTEMS WITHOUT NAM PERTAINS TO
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE
HAD LAST TIME ABOUT. HOW DOES
THIS IMPACT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
MILITARY?
LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY THAT'S A LOT HARDER TO
PULL AGGREGATED NUMBERS BUT FOR
THE MILITARY. AT THE V. A.
PUBLISHES EVERY YEAR WITH THE
CON ANNUAL BENEFITS.
REPORT.
THE FIRST HAND OUT THERE WE
HANDED. THAT SHOWS YOU THE TOP
TEN SERVICE CONNECTED
DISABILITIES OFFER ALL OF OUR
WARFIGHTERS AT THE VA CURRENTLY
PAYS OUT NAM IF YOU'LL NOTICE
TENDED ES AND HEARING LOSS ARE
THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO
CLAIMS.
I IN THE TWENTY SIXTEEN REPORT
WHICH IS AGAIN THE MOST RECENT.
THEY ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST OVER
TWO AND A HALF MILLION ACT CASES
THE NUMBER THREE ABBAS COMMON
SERVICE RELATED DISABILITY IS
POSTER MATTRESSES ORDER. AT
EIGHT HUNDRED AND THREE THOUSAND
AND THIS IS A MASSIVE ISSUE FOR
OUR MILITARY AT THAT ALSO
PERTAINS FOR OUR. THAT CIVILIAN
BOB BITING
THE RECREATIONAL SHOOTERS AND
HUNTERS.
.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE
FOLKS FROM THE BRADY CAMPAIGN
AMANDA AND NICK WILCOX YESTERDAY
WE HOSTED A DEMONSTRATION. A OF
SUPPRESSORS.
AT ARRANGING CORDOVA NAM AND
THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO COME
OUT AND HERE SUPPRESSES
FIRSTHAND THAT WE REALLY
APPRECIATED THEM. ACT DRIVING
ALL THAT WAY TO COME OUT AND DO
THAT.
.
IT WAS I HOPE YOU FOUND IT TO BE
A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE A WE
CERTAINLY ENJOYED HAVING THEM
WITH US. OUT THERE JUST TO TO
LEARN ABOUT THE ISSUE AND AGAIN
WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THAT
INVITATION.
AT ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
OR STAFF WHO EVER HAVE AN
INTEREST IN DOING SO.
.
SEVERAL THINGS. THAT I WOULD
LIKE TO POINT OUT AND AS WELL.
AT THE CDC THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE FOR OCCUPATIONAL
SAFETY AND HEALTH AND THE
NATIONAL HEARING CONSERVATION
ASSOCIATION ALL RECOMMEND THE
USE OF SUPPRESSORS. AS A WAY TO
HELP MITIGATE HEARING LOSS ON IT
IS NOT A COMPLETE SOLUTION THERE
IS NO COMPLETE SOLUTION EARPLUGS
ARE NOT A COMPLETE SOLUTION.
YOUR MUSTER NOT A COMPLETE
SOLUTION ANOTHER SUPPRESSORS BUT
WHEN USED IN CONJUNCTION AT THEY
DO OFFER THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE
PROTECTION THAT YOU CAN ATTAIN
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THIRD TO CLOSE. DOWN A LOT OF
QUESTIONS AT THE LAST SESSION
ROUSTABOUT KIND OF CRIMINAL USE
OF SUPPRESSORS.
SEVERAL THINGS WOULD LIKE TO
POINT OUT HANDGUNS ARE BY FAR AT
THE MOST COMMONLY USED. FIREARMS
BY CRIMINALS DOWN THIS BILL WAS
AMENDED TO REMOVE AT SUPPRESSORS
FOR HANDGUN SO IT WOULD STILL
REMAIN A FELONY TO ATTACH A
SUPPRESSOR ON HAND GUN.
NOW BUT IN ADDITION OUT FOR
CRIMINALS TO DISOBEY THE LAW BY
NATURE OF THE FACT THAT THEIR
CRIMINAL. FOUND MOST OF THEM
CHOOSE NOT TO USE OPPRESSORS FR
SEVERAL REASONS ONE BECAUSE IT
ABOUT DOUBLES OR TRIPLES LINK
THEIR HOST FIREARM. OUT MAKING
IT INHERENTLY HARDER TO CONCEAL.
SOMETHING THAT.
WE'VE WE POINTED OUT TO AMANDA
NICK YESTERDAY.
TO.
IT CARRIES A STIFF PENALTY OF
TEN YEARS INTO UNDER FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL.
AND THREE AT IT DOESN'T
ACTUALLY SOUND SEGUN
MOUNT STILL VERY VERY LOUD AND
ON ONE OF THE HANDOUTS THAT WE
GAVE YOU WITH THAT NOISE
THERMOMETER.
IT ACTUALLY GROSSLY
UNDERESTIMATES THE NOISE OF THE
GUNSHOT SAYS AT A HUNDRED AND
FORTY DECIBELS. NAM FOR A
CENTERFIRE RIFLE OR SHOTGUN OR
EVEN HANDGUN YOU'RE REALLY
LOOKING AT ABOUT A HUNDRED AND
SIXTY TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE
DECIBEL RANGE.
WE'VE WORKED ON STUDIES WITH
THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA WE'VE
MEASURED SOUNDS IN EXCESS OF A
HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE DECIBELS AND
AT THAT NOISE LEVEL EVEN IF
YOU'RE WEARING. EARPLUGS AND
EARMUFFS YOU'RE STILL NOT
GETTING ADEQUATE PROTECTION ONLY
WAY TO TAKE IT DOWN TO A SAFE
LEVEL EVEN WITH DOUBLE
PROTECTION ON. IS BY USING A
SUPPRESSOR.
.
I THINK THAT.
.
BUT ONE LAST THING NAM.
THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF
DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IF FEDERAL
LAW CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON HERE PROTECTION ACT
WHICH IS STANDALONE BILL AND
ALSO PART OF. A BILL CLLED THE
SHARE ACT ON IT IS NOT CURRENTLY
MOVING BUT IF THAT DOES CHANGE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT
FEDERAL LAW WOULD STILL CLASSIFY
SUPPRESSORS AS A FIRE MEANING
THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE.
REQUIRED TO GO TO THE SAME
BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT YOU GO
THROUGH THAT WHEN YOU PURCHASE A
RIFLE OR SHOTGUN. ADAM THERE IS
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK
PARLIAMENTS IN A LOT OF THE
WESTERN STATES INCLUDING
CALIFORNIA. OUT ORGAN.
WASHINGTON AND NEVADA AND SO
THERE'S ONLY ONE STATE THE
BORDERS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK
REQUIREMENTS. REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER THE FEDERAL LAW CHANGES
OR NOT AND SO THAT THE I THINK.
COVER FOR ME THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND WOULD LOVE TO ARE. THE
ANSWERING QUESTIONS LATER ON.
THIS WITNESS.
OR EXTENDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE HERE AGAIN TODAY.
I SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE
CHAIR WOMAN AND.
OF MY BACKGROUND AND. JUST JUST
BRIEFLY AGAIN IS UP. I GREW UP
SHOOTING AGAIN GAVE IT UP FOR
FORTY FIVE YEARS IN THE MEANTIME
I WAS.
A FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR AND
THEN STARTED CALIFORNIA PIZZA
KITCHEN.
PROUD TO SAY THAT
HAD OVER FIVE THOUSAND EMPLOYEES
IN CALIFORNIA.
IN THE END IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO
THAT I BECAME A SHOOTER AGAIN
THAT THE HUNTER.
AND I THOUGHT I COULD GET THE
BEST PROTECTION BUDDY COULD BUY
SO I WENT TO THE HOUSE YOUR
CLINIC WHICH WAS.
INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN CLINIC
HOUSE HEARING HEARING INSTITUTE.
AT TOLD THEM I DIDN'T CARE WHAT
A BECAUSE TELL ME HOW TO PROTECT
MY YEARS.
AND THE PHD THE CHIEF
AUDIOLOGISTS THE HOUSE TOLD ME.
THAT THE BEST THING THEY COULD
DO I COULD DO FOR MYSELF WAS TO
BUY THESE TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR.
CUSTOM INNER EAR PROTECTION.
I BOUGHT THOSE I USE THEM
SUCCESSFUL ON A COUPLE OCCASIONS
AND THEN. IN ONE SINGLE DAY FIVE
AND A HALF YEARS AGO AT THE
RANGE.
I'VE LOST SUBSTANTIALLY LOST MY
HEARING FOR LIFE.
HOT AND.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DOUBLE
HEARING PROTECTION I DIDN'T I
TRUSTED THIS AUDIOLOGISTS.
OBVIOUSLY SINCE THAT TIME I'VE
LEARNED A LOT MORE. THE REASON
I'M HERE TODAY AND IT WAS HERE
BEFORE IS I'M JUST CONCERNED
CITIZEN I HAVE NO I'M NOT A
POLITICIAN. I HAVE NO POLITICAL
INTEREST IN THIS.
AND ALL.
I'M JUST CONCERNED FOR THE
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA I CAN TELL
YOU NOW IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
I'VE HUNTED WITH PROBABLY A
HUNDRED DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
THE ONLY ONE THAT EVER WHERE IS
HERE DOUBLE PROTECTION.
ARE THOSE HUMOR ME AND THEY ONLY
DO IT IN MY PRESENCE.
HOW IT IS?
INCORRECT TO BELIEVE.
THAT THE PUBLIC.
UNDERSTANDS AS YOU GO TO A
SHOOTING RANGE PEOPLE STUFF
THESE NINETY NINE CENTS THINGS
OF THEIR ERA. DAYTONA WE GET
INSTRUCTION HOW TO STUFF IT.
HEY.
WHEN YOU GO TO HUNTERS CENTER
EVEN MORE EXPERIENCE THEY JUST
DON'T THEY'RE JUST NOT AWARE
SOME OF THEM WHERE NO PROTECTION
SUMMIT PEOPLE I KNOW EVEN AFTER
I. LITERALLY CRIED TO THEM
PLEASE THEY WON'T WEAR IT THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND I LEARNED HOW FEW PEOPLE
UNDERSTOOD.
ABOUT DOUBLE PROTECTION
IN FACT I'M VERY CLOSEFRIENDS
WITH THAT. A MAN WHO JUST
RETIRED AFTER FOURTEEN YEARS AT
FBI SWAT IN SAN FRANCISCO I
TALKED TO HIM. LAST NIGHT AND I
TOLD THEM I WAS COMING HERE TO
TESTIFY HE SAID.
BUT THEY DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME
RICK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE
SWAT OFFICERS.
HAVE SOME.
SUBSTANTIAL HEARING LOSS.
SO EVEN IN THE MILITARY EVEN IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY REALLY
DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS AS I LOOK
AT. THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD
A SUPPRESSOR BEING FIRED
YESTERDAY. WAS YESTERDAY I'VE
READ I'D NEVER USED ONE LIVING
IN CALIFORNIA NEVER USE WHAT
OUTSIDE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
AND. I WAS IMPRESSED THAT THIS
COULD.
BE HELPFUL AND THERE'S THERE'S
LITERALLY NO REASON NOT TO BE
HELPFUL JUST
IT'S JUST SIMPLY.
A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND THAT'S
WHERE I IMPLORE YOU.
TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS ISN'T
THE GUN ISSUE.
THIS HAS OF WHETHER YOU'RE PRO
GOT HER ANTI GUN.
IT'S JUST SIMPLY CAN WE PROTECT
I THINK CAN YOU PROTECT THE
PEOPLE COULD WE ALL PROTECT THE
PEOPLE.
OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHO
REALLY REALLY DON'T AND WON'T
HAVE THIS EDUCATION.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.
THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
TALK TO MIKE.
OTHER MADAM CHAIR MARKEDLY WITH
CALIFORNIA WATERFOWL ASSOCIATION
MANY OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE
SUBSTANTIAL HEARING LOSS FROM
DUCK HUNTING. ARM FACT SOME OF
THEM ARE PRETTY MUCH DEAF IN ONE
EAR.
AND WE BELIEVE THIS BILL WILL
PROVIDE IMPORTANT OPTION.
TO HELP.
IF FIVE NOT REDUCE THAT HEARING
LOSS FOR NEW HUNTERS
PARTICULARLY TO AVOID THE OUT
THE LOS ALTOGETHER SO WE URGE
YOU TO SUPPORT THANK YOU.
CERTAINLY OF.
I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THAT.
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OUR NAME
AFFILIATION AND YOUR POSITION
SEPARATISTS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
GUNS CALIFORNIA IN STRONG
SUPPORT.
THEN REVERT NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION'S FRONT OR.
ARGUES FARMS POLICY COALITION
SUPPORT.
BILL GAINES ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEAR ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER THE WILD
SHEEP FOUNDATION OF BLACK BRENT
GROUP CALIFORNIA ANNOUNCEMENT
FOR CONSERVATION CAL OR WETLANDS
ARE WONDERFUL COUNCIL AND THE
CALIFORNIA BOWMAN UNDERSTOOD
ARCHERY ASSOCIATION.
SUPPORT.
RIGHT ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
ALRIGHT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THINK WE NEED SPACE AT THE TABLE
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CHRISSY GOOD
MORNING AGAIN. A AMANDA WILCOX
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE TWENTY.
CHAPTERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS OF
THE BRADY CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT
GUN VIOLENCE.
I WAS AT THE HEARING LAST
JANUARY LEARNED QUITE A BIT HAVE
BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE
STARTING AT TALKING TO PEOPLE.
INCLUDING HUNTER SINCE THEN AND
THEN YESTERDAY AS WAS MENTIONED
BY MISTER WILLIAMS. MY HUSBAND
AND I WENT TO THE SHOOTING RANGE
IN RANCHO CORDOVA AND.
HURT.
ARE HEARD SAW AND HEARD FIREARMS
VARIOUS FIREARMS USED WITH AND
WITHOUT SUPPRESSORS.
I'M USING THE RIGHT WORD NOW.
AND MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS WERE
ASKED IT WAS SO GREAT YEAH.
EXCHANGE AND I VERY MUCH
APPRECIATED THAT WE WERE.
WE SEE THE INVITATION ARE IT WAS
A GOOD EXPERIENCE OF THANK YOU
FOR THAT.
.
AN I WILL CONCEDE OUR THAT
SILENCERS AND I SAY SILENCERS
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE
IN THE BILL SPRITE BUT SILENCERS
DO NOT SILENCE A WEAPON LIKE WE
SEE OF WITH JAMES BOND. THEY
SUPPRESS THE SOUND SOMEWHAT.
SO OFTEN THIS DOWN DISTORTED A
LITTLE BIT.
I ALSO WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
PEOPLE WHO SHOOT IN HUNTERS NEED
TO PROTECT THEIR HEARING AND I
CARE ABOUT THAT. MY FAMILY
MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
HUNTERS OBVIOUSLY.
DO NOT WANT PEOPLE IN OUR STATE
TO BE HEALTHY.
I AGREE ON THOSE THINGS.
AND I AGREE ABOUT THE NEED FOR
TWO FORMS OF HEARING PROTECTION
WHICH WE HEARD MENTIONED AND
THAT IS THE GOLD STANDARD THAT'S
WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT USES AND
WHAT MILITARY OFTEN USES.
ON WHAT I'VE LEARNED ON THIS
JOURNEY OF ON.
SILENCE FOR DISCOVERY I GUESS I
CALL ON.
IS THAT DECIBELS ARE MEASURED
LOG WITHIN THE CLOSELY I SAY
THAT RIGHTS SO.
.
THE INCREASE THE INCREASE IS
EXPONENTIAL IN SO WHEN THERE'S
THE BENEFITS OF A SILENCER LIKE
WISE.
IS LOG WITH MIX OF THE FIRST.
PROTECTION ONE USES WORDS WHERE
YOU GET THE BREAK GREATEST
BENEFIT USE A SECOND PROTECTION
YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND
THIRD KNOW EVEN LESS BENEFIT.
ARM SO TWO FORMS OF PROTECTION
ARE VERY IMPORTANT THIRD I DON'T
THINK THERE'S AS MUCH BENEFIT TO
THAT.
IT SEEMS FROM MY READING ON
THAT PRETTY MUCH.
ALL THREE FORMS OF PROTECTION
WHICH WOULD BE EAR* YOUR
PLUGS AND SUPPRESSORS OFF
PROVIDE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF
NOISE REDUCTION WHICH IS THIRTY
DECIBELS.
SILENCE.
.
SUPPRESSORS ARE FAR MORE
EXPENSIVE HOWEVER THEN EAR*
OR. EARPLUGS.
I DID SPEAK TO SPOKE SPOKE ARM
WITHOUT RETIRED ATF AGENT WHO
MEAN US PART OF THEIR QUARTERLY
TRAINING HE SAID IT WAS STANDARD
WE ALL USED YOUR MOUTHS IN
EARPLUGS NOT SUPPRESSORS ON
WEAPONS.
BUT.
WHERE THIS BILL REALLY DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE TO ME IS THAT IT IS
FOR? USE.
ALLOWS PRESSURES TO BE USED WHEN
HUNTING
SO THE BILL AS IT IS NOW WITH
ALLOW ANYONE. UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
UNDER THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS
TO POSSESS ASSIGNMENT SIR YOU
CAN'T PUT THE SILENCER ON
HANDGUN BUT YOU PUT ON LONG GONE.
THEY CAN HAVE ANYMORE THE LONG
GUN WHO WENT THROUGH THE FEDERAL
REQUIREMENTS GOOD HAVE A SILENCE
FROM THEIR LONG GONE BUT THEN IT
CAN ONLY BE USED FOR HUNTING.
MOST SERIOUS HUNTERS RARELY.
FIRE THE GUN.
FACT LAST WEEK MY BROTHER LAWS
VISITING THIRD TIME HE'S VISIT
pPROPERTY HE HAS BEEN TO OUR HOME
THREE TIMES.
OUR IN THOSE THREE TIMES HE HAS
SHOT HIS GUN FOUR TIMES
WE'VE HAD THREE TURKEY DINNERS
BUT HUNTER SERIOUS HUNTERS DO
NOT SHOOT THEIR WEAPON A LOT.
AND I WAS INTERESTED IN ON THE
COMMENT FROM THE OTHER WITNESS
AND THE ANALYSIS THAT.
MOST HUNTERS DON'T USE ANY
HEARING PROTECTION AT ALL
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HEAR THE
SOUNDS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
HOWEVER THERE ARE EAR* IN
EARPLUGS WHICH ARE ELECTRONIC
AND ACTUALLY ALLOW ONE TO
MAGNIFY THE SOUND OF ANIMALS OR
THE ENVIRONMENT BUT THEN THEY
SUPPRESS THE NOISE OF GUNFIRE SO
THERE ARE WAYS TO MEET THAT NEED
IF YOU'RE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
HEARING OTHER VOICES BUT
SUPPRESSING THE SOUND OF GUNFIRE
SO I WOULD OFFER THAT USING THE
TOOL HERE PROTECTION OF YOUR
PLUGS IN EAR* COULD MEET
PROTECT ELECTRONIC ONES COULD
MEET A HUNTER'S KNEES. ON IT
SEEMS TO ME THIS IS A EDUCATION
ISSUE IF PEOPLE ARE NOT WEARING
SILENCERS ARE NOT.
WEARING EARMUFFS EARPLUGS THEM
WE NEED TO EDUCATE THEM OR
REQUIRE THEM I DON'T KNOW AND
THEN THE LAST POINT I'LL LET MY
COLLEAGUE HERE WITH THE LAW
CENTER GO MORE INTO THE PUBLIC
SAFETY ISSUE. EXCEPT I'LL JUST
MENTION THAT IN MY LETTER I
REFERRED TO THAT SHOOTING THAT
HAPPENED BY A CHRIS STORE OWNER
IN LOS ANGELES AND HOW DIFFICULT
WAS TO FIND HIM BECAUSE HE WAS
USING SUPPRESSORS ON HIS WEAPON.
AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE
SILENCE BURSTS OF SUPPRESSING
THE NOISE BUT ALSO.
REDUCING THE MUZZLE FLASH AND
ANY MOVEMENT THAT REQUIRE HELP
THE GUNS EVEN VISUALLY IT'S HARD
TO DISTRACT.
AND THEN FINALLY I WOULD JUST
MENTION THE RANCHO TO HIM OF THE
SHOOTING AT ON.
WHAT IS THE CAUSE RANCHO TO HIM
A RESERVE LAST FALL YOU MAY
REMEMBER THAT A WHERE A MAN
USING COSTA ASSAULT WEAPONS?
OTHER HE AND MAN MADE HIMSELF SO
THERE GOES CONS QUOTE UNQUOTE
LONG GUNS ARE. SHOOTING IN HIS
COMMUNITY AND HE WENT TO A
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL SECRETARY.
FROM A DISTANCE.
RECOGNIZE THAT
THAT IT WITH THIS BILLS AIMS A
WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT.
MOST LAW ABIDING RESPONSIBLE
GUN OWNERS AND SPORTSMEN WOULD
USE THESE DEVICES RESPONSIBLY IN
FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE.
BUT WE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE I
WOULD THIS BILL'S PROPONENTS
ABOUT THE RELATIVE COSTS AND
BENEFITS THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY. BY ALLOWING
PROLIFERATION THESE DEVICES
DEEPLY WHETHER MANY AFFORDABLE
AND WIDELY AVAILABLE
ALTERNATIVES THAT PROTECT
SHOOTERS HEARING AT LEAST AS
EFFECTIVELY.
CALIFORNIA'S RESTRICTIONS ON
SILENCERS HAVE. BEEN ENACTED UP
FOR MORE THAN EIGHT DECADES
OTHER ENACTED ORIGINALLY TO
CURTAIL SILENCERS USE IN
PROHIBITION ERA GANG VIOLENCE
ORGANIZED MOB ACTIVITY.
OTHER FACT THAT THEY ARE RARELY
USED IN CRIME TODAY IS A
TESTAMENT TO THE IMPORTANCE OF
STRONG REGULATION OF THESE
DEVICES.
NOT THEIR LIMITED APPEAL TO
PEOPLE INTENT ON COMMITTING
VIOLENCE WITH DEVICES THAT BOTH
MUFFLED AND DISTORT.
THE SOUND AND UP PROCEED
LOCATION OF GUNFIRE.
ILLITERATE CONGRESS THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIP TO
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE EXPLAINED
THAT UNTIL RECENT YEARS QUOTE
THE PRIMARY TARGET FOR SILENCE
OR MANUFACTURERS HAS BEEN
MILITARY TACTICAL TEAMS.
WHO USE SILENCERS TO CONFUSE THE
SOUND OF GUNFIRE AND CONFOUND AN
ENEMY'S RESPONSE TO SURPRISE
ATTACK?
WE ACT OF THE NATIONAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT CONCLUSION NATIONAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIP
CONCLUSION.
THAT.
THAT THE SUPPRESSORS CAN.
DEGRADE ABILITY OF SHOTS BETTER
TECHNOLOGY TO LOCATE THAT.
TO DETECT THE LOCATION OF
GUNFIRE.
AND THE CONCLUSION THAT QUOTE
THE WIDESPREAD IN A CONTROLLED
THIS REVIEW DISTRIBUTION OF
SILENCERS TO AN UNWARY CIVILIAN
POPULATION. COMBINED WITH THE
SHEER NUMBER OF FIREARMS FREELY
AVAILABLE IN AMERICA IS A STEP
IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND WILL
RESULT IN TRAGEDY.
STATE LEVEL REGULATIONS ALSO
ESPECIALLY NECESSARY IN LIGHT OF
CONCERTED RECENT EFFORT.
A BY THIS CONGRESS TO PASS
LEGISLATION TO GOT FEDERAL LAWS
REGULATIONS SILENCERS AND ALLOW
THEM TO BE BOUGHT AND SOLD
WITHOUT A BACKER INTERPERSONAL
RECORD IN MOST STATES IN THIS
COUNTRY.
THESE REASONS I URGE YOU TO
OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
QUICKLY.
BUT POLICIES WERE TO.
MY NAME IS LORETTA DEEPER CHERRY
I'M A MEMBER OF THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN SACRAMENTO CHAPTER IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT.
.
ALL. COHEN MYSELF.
.
SKINNER SPEAK ABOVE.
SENATOR ANDERSON WE DID HEAR
THIS LAST YEAR I APPRECIATE THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF YOUR WITNESS.
.
AND I. REALLY FEEL FEAR LOSS OF
HEARING AND I'M SORRY THAT THE
AUDIT.
AUDIO SPECIALIST THAT YOU SAW.
EITHER WAS NOT AWARE THAT YOU
SHOULD HAVE WARNED THE DOUBLE
PROTECTION OR WHO KNOWS THE
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT.
YOU KNOW YOU PARTICULARLY FACING
I DON'T WANT HAVE PEOPLE HAVING
HERE LOS HEARING LOSS.
BUT I THINK THAT BE.
THE REASONS FOR OUR RESTRICTION
ON SUPPRESSORS.
TO SOLELY HAVE THEM AVAILABLE TO
LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE SOUND.
AND SO I THINK SENATOR AND
ANDERSON THAT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND.
THAT YOU THINK ABOUT A BILL THAT
COULD.
YOU EITHER SOME NOTICING.
OR REQUIREMENTS AROUND HEARING
PROTECTION.
SO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS
BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED NOW BY YOUR
WITNESSES AND OTHERS THAT. THERE
IS A
A PROBLEM A GAP IN PEOPLE'S
UNDERSTANDING OF.
THE.
SERIOUSNESS OF THE HEARING LOSS
THAT THEY CAN EXPERIENCE.
AND THAT PERHAPS WE NEED TO DO.
EITHER.
SOME NOTICING A REQUIREMENT OF
THE USE OF THE HEARING PROCESS.
VERSE IS MAKING ALLOWABLE ANY I
USE OF THEIR SUPPRESSORS.
SO THAT'S.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION? AYE AS LAST YEAR
A CANNOT SUPPORT THE BILL AS IT
IS TODAY.
.
I WILL COHEN SENATORS DON'T GO
AHEAD.
MEDICARE I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS CERTAINLY.
WEEK WE NEED TO DO MORE TO
PROTECT THE HEARING OF OUR.
ARE ARE HUNTERS.
I THINK THAT THE LEGISLATION IS
IS GOOD LEGISLATION THAT.
TALKS ABOUT SUPPRESSORS AND.
YOU KNOW.
CERTAINLY.
DISCOUNTS THE METHOD BECAUSE
THIS IS NOT THE JAMES BOND
SILENCERS THAT.
YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
WHEN I BEST FRIENDS IS A.
A DUCK HUNTER AND.
HE HAS SUFFERED SOME
SIGNIFICANT THE LOSS OF HEARING
AND HE USES.
THE* IN THE EAR PLUGS AND.
YEARS DEALING WITH A LARGE
DECIBEL HUNDRED AND SIXTY
DECIBELS AND IT'S JUST
IMPOSSIBLE.
.
YOUR MUSCULAR ALBEIT THEM MUCH
MORE EFFECTIVE TODAY THAN THEY
WERE IN THE PAST TO.
NEGATE ANY ANY HEARING LOSS SO
BUT.
YOU KNOW IT'S AND IT'S
UNFORTUNATE THAT THERE IS A
CERTAIN SENSITIVITY THAT GOES
BACK TO.
THE CONCEPT OF.
GUN OWNERSHIP. AND EVEN IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT IS
GOING TO RESONATE WITH ANYTHING
THAT REMOTELY.
HAS A NEXUS TO THE UTILIZATION
OF OF GUNS UNDERSTANDING THAT
THESE ARE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
EXERCISING THE SECOND AMENDMENT
RIGHT TO HUNT.
AND WE'RE ONLY LOOKING TO
PROTECT THEIR THEIR HEARING FROM
THESE VERY LOUD DEVICES.
AND.
I REGRET THAT DAY I DON'T THINK
THIS IS GOING TO GO VERY FAR
TODAY BUT I'M GONNA MAKE THE
MOTION BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE
MOTION I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST
HEALTH OF.
OF THE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF BEN
OWNERS TO GO OUT THERE AND
ACTUALLY HUNT BUT LONG GUNS AND.
ENJOY THIS PAST TIME. AND SOME
EVEN FEED THEIR FAMILY BY DOING
SO SO.
IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THEIR
HEALTH.
LIKE WITH THE BILL.
SORRY WE HAVE A MOTION AYE AYE
DECEPTIVE SO I DIDN'T COVER THIS
BEFORE BUT I WOULD ON THE.
MATERIAL THAT WAS HANDED TO US
I WOULD NOTE THAT A CRYING BABY.
.
CREATES HIS OWN
DAMAGE WITHIN A MINUTE AND
TWENTY NINE SECONDS.
AND.
.
ANYWAY.
NOT TO MAKE LIGHT OF THAT BUT.
.
I WOULDN'T HAVE.
I REALIZED THAT WITHOUT SEEN
THIS SO CLEARLY WE HAVE ISSUES.
THROUGHOUT THE SOCIETY AROUND
POTENTIAL FOR HEARING LOSS BUT.
ANYWAY WE HAVE A MOTION SENATOR
ANDERSON WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
I WOULD.
I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT.
UNDER THIS BILL.
A HANDGUN.
COULD NOT POSSESS
YOU COULD NOT POSSESS A HER
SILENCER FOR HANDGUN THAT WOULD
REMAIN A FELONY.
I THAT THIS IS STRICTLY LONG
GUNS.
AND THAT.
.
THE BEAUTY OF USING THE SILENCER.
IS THAT IF YOU USED IT IN
CONJUNCTION WITH EARPLUGS USE
STILL WOULD HAVE SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS.
IN A PROVIDES FOR STAY FOR
HUNTING BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE.
.
DOUBLE PROTECTION.
IT SEVERELY LIMITS YOUR ABILITY
TO HEAR OTHERS IN THE FOREST.
AND WITH THE SILENCER YOU GET
THE BENEFIT OF BOTH BECAUSE
YOU'RE NOT HURTING YOUR YEARS
WHAT THE SAME TIME.
YOU HAVE THE SITUATIONAL.
.
AWARENESS THAT SO IMPORTANT.
FOR.
FOR SAY FUNDING.
SO.
.
WE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM.
.
MR ROSENFIELD ABOUT IT DOESN'T
TAKE MUCH.
TO BE THAT TIPPING POINT IN YOUR
HEARING LOSS
SO WHEN PEOPLE TALK WELL YOU
KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOT FOR
YEARS AND.
IT HAS AN IMPACT OF WHAT HARRIS
BUT
SOME PEOPLE.
IT IMPACTS GREATER THAN OTHERS
OR ME PERHAPS THEY NOTICE IT
SOONER.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT NO OTHER
STATES THEY ALLOW THIS BUT WE
DON'T SEE FRONT PAGE STORIES
ABOUT PEOPLE USING.
WEAPONS.
FOR CRYING
WITH THE SILENCERS ON LONG GUNS.
THAT THE ADDITIONAL LENGTH
MAKES IT VERY VERY DIFFICULT.
TOOK INTO CONCEALED WEAPON AND
MOST CASES THEY WANT CONCEALED
WEAPONS.
IN HERE IN CALIFORNIA AT THE ONE
TIME THAT IT WAS USED.
IN A CRIME WAS USED ILLEGALLY.
SO CLEARLY WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP
CRIMINALS FROM BREAKING LOS.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN
PROTECT HUNTERS IN THEIR IN
THEIR HEARING. A HEARING LOSS
FROM HEARING LOSS SO WITH THAT I
URGE YOU NOT VOTE.
THANK YOU.
WE WILL AND TO A ROLL CALL THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO NAFTA
RESOURCES AND WATER.
SKINNER.
ANDERSON AYE ANDERSON AYE
BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER.
WE WILL HOLD THE ROLE ON OPEN UP
WE WILL HOLD THE ROLE OAKENFOLD
SHE'S AND.
.
AND.
WHEN THE OTHER MEMBERS TURN
MEMBERS WE CARRY CASH THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
YOU WANTED YOUR THEY'RE BUILT
SENATOR AND IF IT WOULD BE GREAT.
I HAVE A.
THANK YOU FOR.
SO WON'T WILL NOW GO TO ITEM SIX
S. B. TEN NINETY FIVE.
MADAM CHAIR I'D LIKE TO
PERSONALLY THANK YOU AND YOUR
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR.
THE POSITIVE ATTENTION YOU GAVE
TO THIS BILL. I HAPPILY ACCEPT
THE AMENDMENTS I BELIEVE IF THE
BILL IS NOW ON MUCH BETTER BILL.
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THAT
ASSISTANCE.
WE ALL HAVE WITNESSED A MENTAL
TO MENTAL ILLNESS CHALLENGES ARE
GOVERNOR.
OUR GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS.
IN SERVICES IN MANY OF THE
PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES WE COULD
FRONT DALY.
CURRENT LAW ALLOWS POTENTIALLY
DANGEROUS CRIMINAL.
WITH A HOUSES
SUSPECTED MENTAL.
HEALTH ISSUES IN WHO VIOLATE
THEIR PROBATION TO BE RELEASED
INTO COMMITTEES WITHOUT A PROPER
MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION.
THIS BILL WILL PROTECT PUBLIC
SAFETY BY GRANTING JUDICIAL
DISCRETION.
WITH ME TODAY IS SAN DIEGO
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY ANNA
DISTINTIVO AGO.
FROM THE COLLABORATIVE COURTS
DIVISION WHICH HANDLES THE
POLICE IN MENTAL INCOMPETENCE
CASES
TO ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AND
TESTIFY.
THANK YOU CHRIS
CHRISSY. MORNING CHAIRWOMAN
SKINNER AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF
SAN DIEGO COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY SUMMER STUFF AND WHO IS
ALSO SPONSORING THIS BILL AND I
THINK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I
HAD BEEN A DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY FOR SEVENTEEN YEARS AND
FOR TWO YEARS I HANDLE THE
PAROLE REVOCATION CALENDAR.
CURRENTLY AFTER A PAROLEES FOUND
INCOMPETENT DURING REVOCATION
PROCEEDINGS THE COURTHOUSE TO
DISMISS THE REVOCATION PETITION
AND THE OFFENDER IS REAL
RETURNED TO OUR COMMUNITY
CONNECTS YOU WITH UNSTABLE. AND
OFTENTIMES DILUTION OF STATE.
THE CURRENT LAW PLACES AN
EXTREME DANGER BOTH TO THE
OFFENDERS WELL BEING AS WELL TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY. AS YOU KNOW
MONTH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON
PAROLE IN PRC YES HAVE HAD A
HISTORY OF SERIOUS AND VIOLENT
FELONIES AND OUR PAST INCLUDING
SEX OFFENSES.
WHILE OFFENDERS WITH SERIOUS
MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS ARE A
SMALL PORTION AND I DO WANNA
REITERATE THEY AREA SMALL
PORTION OF THE OVERALL. BERLIN
PRC ES POPULATION THEY ARE AT A
HIGHER RISK OF RECIDIVISM.
S. B. TEN NINETY FIVE WOULD GIVE
THE COURT'S THE DISCRETION USING
THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE
ALTERNATIVE TO ALLOW THESE
OFFENDERS TO BE RESTORED TO
COMPETENCY. AT A PRIVATE OR
PUBLIC.
LOCKED FACILITY WITH ENVY A
HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS OF THEIR
PROGRESS.
CURRENTLY THE AVERAGE TIME TO
RESTORE SOMEONE TO COMPETENCY IN
THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY IROC
PROGRAM IS FIFTY NINE ACTUAL
BASE.
WITHOUT TREATMENT IT'S BECOME A
REVOLVING DOOR AS THE STUFF I'VE
SEEN THESE OFFENDERS AND UP
SERVING THEIR PAROLE ATER JAILS
ON THE INSTALLMENT PLANS.
GENERATING RECURRING JAIL AND
COURT EXPENSES SB TEN NINETY
FIVE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP
THIS REVOLVING DOOR.
UNFORTUNATELY OUTPATIENT
SERVICES SUCH THE PAROLE
IMPEACHING CLINIC.
IS INEFFECTIVE FOR THIS
PARTICULAR.
PORTION OF THE POPULATION AS
THEY ARE COMPLETELY RELYING ON
THE PAROLEES WILLINGNESS
TO I KEEP UP WITH ARAFAT WITH
THEIR APPOINTMENTS.
PAROLEES IN A TO COMPENSATE A
MENTAL STATE SIMPLY CANNOT KEEP
THOSE APPOINTMENTS OR KEEP UP
WITH THE MEDICATION.
AN ADDITION MOST RESIDENTIAL
TREATMENT PROGRAMS REFUSE TO
HOUSE THESE OFFENDERS DUE TO
THEIR HISTORY OF SERIOUS OR
VIOLENT FELONIES WHICH LEAVES
THE PAROLE AND PROBATION
AUTHORITIES SCRAMBLING EVERY
SINGLE TIME. A REBATE BY
REPLICATION PROBATION IS A
REPLICATION PETITION HAS
DISMISSED TO TRY TO PIECEMEAL
SOMETHING TO HELP THE OFFENDER
AND KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE.
S. B. TEN NINETY FIVE WOULD
PROVIDE THIS POPULATION WITH
EQUAL ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT WHICH IS ALREADY
AVAILABLE TO OTHER OFFENDERS IN
OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND
AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD STOP
THE REVOLVING DOOR OF VIOLATIONS
RECURRING EXPENSES AND ASSURE
PUBLIC SAFETY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT IN THIS A BELL AND I'M
HERE TO ANSWERING.
THANK YOU ARE THERE OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ANY MATTHEWS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT.
LIKE A DOCTOR OF ON BEHALF OF
THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA WE HAD
PREVIOUSLY BEEN AN OPPOSITION TO
THE MEASURE BUT WE WANTED TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE AND THE
AUTHOR OR ON THE RECENT
AMENDMENTS AND WEARING THAT
THING OUR OPPOSITION.
ANY OTHERS IN SUPPORT ANY
TRAINERS ALRIGHT OPPOSITION.
NO OPPOSITION.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BILL.
AS AMENDED.
.
MANAGER THE AMENDMENTS EARLY
MOVE ALL THE OPPOSITION THAT'S
WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IN IT IN
SOME OF THEM HAVEN'T COMPLETELY
REMOVED YET BUT YOU HEARD BCI
YOU.
REMOVE THERE'S.
GREAT THANK YOU ALRIGHT SO IS
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS.
WE'LL TAKE RURAL COFFEE.
SKINNER.
I SKINNER AYE ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON
MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE. STONE AYE
WIENER.
WILL HOLD THE RIVER.
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN.
A HAD A SURE EUREKA.
ALRIGHT SO NOW WE WILL HEAR
FROM MY SENATOR MCGUIRE IS HERE
SO WE'LL ITEM THIRTEEN S. B.
TWELVE THIRTY THREE.
AND I THINK I MENTIONED AT THE
OPENING OF THE HEARING THAT.
WE'LL HAVE TO CONCLUDE THIS
HEARING YOU'RE NOT CONCLUDE
RATHER SUSPENDED. RECESS SAID.
BUT AROUND.
ELEVEN FIFTEEN ELEVEN TWENTY AT
THE LATEST SO.
.
AS.
EXPEDITIOUSLY AS WE CAN PROCEED
WILL BE GREAT OKAY GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOOD
MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
UP FIRST FINDS ONCE A THANK YOU
TO THE CHAIR.
INTO HER FANTASTIC TEAM HOT
FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE
WORK ON THIS BILL. MEMBERS AS
YOU MAY KNOW CALIFORNIA'S
TRAFFIC FINES IN FEES ARE SOME
OF THE HIGHEST IN AMERICA. IN
CALIFORNIA A TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS
SUCH AS A BROKEN TAIL LIGHT
EXPIRED TAG OR LACK OF PROOFOF
INSURANCE. COMES WITH A LARGE
PRICE TAG AYE TRAFFIC INFRACTION
WITH THE BASE ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR
FINE AN RISE UP TO FOUR HUNDRED
NINETY DOLLARS.
ONCE LOCAL FEES AND ASSESSMENTS
ARE AT IT A PRICE THAT MANY
STRUGGLING FAMILIES ARE UNABLE
TO PAY. CURRENTLY JUDGES ARE
ALLOWED TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE
PAYMENT OPTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS
WHO WOULD FACE FINANCIAL
HARDSHIP PAIN THE MANDATED
TRAFFIC FEES.
OPTIONS MAY INCLUDE PAIN IN
INSTALLMENTS OR COMPLETING
COMMITTEE SERVICE HOURS IN LIEU
OF THAT TOTAL FINE.
THE COMMITTEE SERVICE
ALTERNATIVE OFFERS LOW INCOME
FAMILIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SATISFY THEIR FINANCIAL
OBLIGATION TO THE COURT. BY
WORKING A NUMBER OF UNPAID HOURS
BUT IN A SIGN TIME FRAME FOR A
QUALIFYING NONPROFIT ENTITY OR
GOVERNMENT AGENCY AS PROVIDED BY
THE COURT.
COMMUNITY SERVICE OPTIONS
TYPICALLY CONSISTS OF PERFORMING
MANUAL LABOR AND ARE SOMETIMES
ONLY OFFERED MY DAYS TWO FRIDAYS
NINE TO FIVE.
THIS ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS
INTENDED TO HELP STRUGGLING
FAMILIES CAN BECOME INACCESSIBLE
IN OVERWHELMING WHEN THE HOURS
TO COMPLETE THE COURT MADE IT
OBLIGATIONS ARE SIMPLY TOO STEEP
ESPECIALLY WITH FAMILY
OBLIGATIONS AT HOME. OR YOU ALSO
HAVE A JOB. IN TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE
FOR CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA A LEGAL
SERVICES ORGANIZATION ADVOCATES
FOR LOW INCOME TO NEEDS OF COLOR.
RECOMMENDED THAT FLEXIBILITY BE
THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR
COMMUNITY SERVICE OPTIONS.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE IN FRONT OF
YOU TODAY. BASED OFF OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE
DANCING CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE
MANY YEARS WE BELIEVE INCLUDING
JOB TRAINING CONTINUING
EDUCATION CLASSES OR FOR
PARTICIPATING IN APPROVED
PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT ACTIVITIES
SHOULD BE IMPROVED OPTION FOR
CALIFORNIANS. FACING STEEP PEACE
IN OUR COURTS AGAIN.
IT'S AN OPTION.
S. B. TWELVE THIRTY THREE WILL
PROVIDE JUDGES WITH AN
ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVE NOT A
MANDATE IN ADDITIONAL
ALTERNATIVE TO OFFER INDIVIDUALS
TO MEET THE COMMITTEE SERVICE
OUR REQUIREMENT. PUEDEN.
WHEN THEY FACE ARE.
THE BILLETING TRAFFIC FINES IN
FEES THIS WOULD LIFT UP THEIR
QUALITY LIFE AND THE SAME TIME
PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES SO WHAT ARE SOME
OF THOSE COURSES.
WRITING CLASSES.
LITERACY COURSES
COMPUTER CLASSES
ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE
CLASSES
I GENERAL EDUCATION TO BE TO GET
THEIR GED. EVEN APPRENTICESHIPS.
THESE OPPORTUNITIES CAN HELP
INDIVIDUALS GAIN SKILLS THAT
WILL MAKE THEM MORE EMPLOYABLE
AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL
GROWTH AND ECONOMIC WELL BEING
OF THE COMMUNITY. THROUGH
PARTICIPATION IN THESE PROGRAMS
AND IT WILL ALSO IMPROVE THEIR
FINANCIAL HEALTH.
ADDITIONALLY S. B. TWELVE THIRTY
THREE WILL PROVIDE
ACCOUNTABILITY BY SAP WISHING
STANDARDS FOR SUCCESSFUL
COMPLETION BETTER MODELED AFTER
CURRENT PRACTICES.
ALL DESCENDED RIGHT HERE MADAM
CHAIR.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS ANY
CONCERNS AROUND THOSE EDUCATION
PER.
PROGRAMS I HAVE WITH ME TODAY I
DELETE KEY ROSE BUT THE WOMEN'S
FOUNDATION OF CALIFORNIA AND UP
BRITNEY STILL SUFFER WITH LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS WHO
CHILDREN AND AGAIN MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AND A GROUP OF YOUR
WORK.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT YOU MAY
PROCEED.
AND YOU GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS THE MY NAME IS JULIE
GHETTOS AND I AM FROM THE
WOMEN'S FOUNDATION OF CALIFORNIA.
AS WE HAVE HEARD A LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS ARE BEING SPIRALED
DEEPER INTO THE CYCLE OF POVERTY.
INABILITY TO COMPLETE COMMUNITY
SERVICE HOURS AND WILL FIND CAN
LEAD TO LOSS OF WAGES OUR
INABILITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO
SUCCESSFULLY ATTEND SCHOOL OR
EVEN THEIR FAMILIES.
THE HIGH COST OF TICKETS MEANS A
COURT ORDER COMMUNITY SERVICE
HOURS CAN EASILY RISE UP AS WELL.
BUSINESS LEADERS SERVICE HARD TO
COMPLETE A HUNDRED HOURS CAN
EASILY BE EQUIVALENT TO TWO
WEEKS WORTH OF FULL TIME WORK.
THIS IS THE CASE FOR A
SACRAMENTO RESIDENT NAMED SUSAN
WHO WAS ASSIGNED A HUNDRED AND
THIRTY HOURS OF COMMUNITY
SERVICE FOR EXPIRED CAR
REGISTRATION.
HE IS UNABLE TO COMPLETE THOSE
HOURS BECAUSE SHE IS WORKING
FULL TIME AND A SINGLE TEAR HER
ELDERLY MOTHER AND ON TOP OF
THAT SHE IS A PHARMACY TECH
STUDENT.
HE STATES.
PLEASE PLEASE I AM ABSOLUTELY
DESPERATE HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO
WORK AND DO MY COMMUNITY SERVICE
HOURS THERE ARE JUST NOT ENOUGH
HOURS IN THE DAY FOR ME TO DO
THIS.
AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WITHIN
THE NEXT TWO WEEKS I MOST LIKELY
WILL BE UNEMPLOYED. AND AT FIFTY
TWO YEARS OLD I HAVE NO SAVINGS
BY WE JUST CONTINUE TO BE
GARNISHED DUE TO THE EXPIRED
REGISTRATION.
THE CURRENT SYSTEM JUST SIMPLY
DOESN'T WORK FOR THE COURTS IN
OUR FOR LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS
WILL NEED TO SUPPORT CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS SUCH AS SUSAN ENSURING
THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE
FLEXIBILITY. OPTIONS LIKE
COMMUNITY SERVICE IS NOT
DEBILITATING NOR IS A
DEVASTATING.
AND ALSO OF TO ALLOW THE COURTS
TO COLLECT THIS THAT.
THAT'S S. B. TWELVE THIRTY THREE
AND ONE OF THE MANY SOLUTIONS
THAT WILL SUPPORT LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS BE SEEN
DEBILITATING FORT THAT.
BY EXPANDING COMMUNITY SERVICE
OPTIONS INCLUDE A ROMAN
EDUCATION AND PROFESSIONAL
DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES NOT
ONLY ARE WE GIVING PEOPLE A REAL
CHANCE TO DEAL WITH THEIR
FRIENDS IN FEES AND WILL BE ON
CORD THAT. FORMER ALSO ALLOWING
THEM TO STRIVE FOR A BILL
QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THEM AND
THEIR FAMILY. THIS OVER THE LONG
RUN WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO WORK
TOWARDS THEIR OWN SELF
SUFFICIENCY AND CONTRIBUTE TO
LOCAL ECONOMIES OVERALL
BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT I DO THINK SENATOR MCGUIRE
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD
AND WE ARE YOU TO THE TO AYE ON
SB THIRTY THREE?
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS BERNIE
STONECIPHER IMPART ME WITH LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS OF
CHILDREN AN ORGANIZATION
DEDICATED TO ENDING MASS
INCARCERATION AND THE
CRIMINALIZATION OF POVERTY.
A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF OUR
JUSTICE SYSTEM IS THAT A PERSON
SHOULD BE AFFORDED THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THEIR DEBTS.
AND TO MOVE ON AFTER THE
CONVICTION OF A CRIME.
UNFORTUNATELY HOWEVER THIS
OPPORTUNITIES BEING DENIED TO
MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA'S TRAFFIC COURTS.
WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST
EXPENSIVE INFRACTION TICKETS IN
THE NATION AND LOW INCOME PEOPLE
ARE REGULARLY BEING CHARGED FOR
FINDS AS YOU'VE HEARD THAT THEY
CAN'T AFFORD. OTHERS ARE HAVING
THEIR WAGES GARNISHED LIKE
NICOLE A SINGLE MOTHER
SUPPORTING TWO CHILDREN ON THE
NONPROFIT CASEWORKER'S SALARY
WHO HAVE IT HER WAGES TAKEN FROM
MONTHS OF SHE COULDN'T AFFORD A
SMALL COMMISSION TICKET. THE
BALLOON TO TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED
DOLLARS WITH LATE FEES.
WHEN OUR POP ART ORGANIZATION IS
PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT
PEOPLE REENTERING AFTER GELLAR
PRISON WHO ARE TRYING TO GET
THEIR LIFE BACK ON TRACK AND
HAVING WAGES GARNISHED CAN BE A
DISINCENTIVE TO GET A JOB
BECAUSE YOU SEE TWENTY FIVE
PERCENT OR MORE OF YOUR WAGES
BEING GARNISHED. WHICH CAN
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE
IN INFORMAL ECONOMY.
HERE BEING ABLE TO DO
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AS
COMMUNITY SERVICE IS REALLY A
WIN WIN WIN AS BEEF TWELVE
THIRTY THREE WOULD HELP ADDRESS
A LOT OF THESE ISSUES.
IT BENEFITS THE COURT BY
PROVIDING SENTENCING OPTIONS
THAT MORE DEFENDANTS WILL BE
ABLE TO COMPLY WITH
IT BENEFITS THE DEFENDANT BY
ENCOURAGING THEM TO PARTICIPATE
IN A PRO SOCIAL ACTIVITY. AND IT
BENEFITS THE STAY IN GENERAL BY
CREATING A BETTER INFORMED
HIGHER EARNINGS THAT OF
COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WE CAN CHOOSE TO USE OUR COURT
SYSTEM TO TRAP VULNERABLE PEOPLE
IN CYCLES OF POVERTY OR WE CAN
CHOOSE IT TO IMPROVE OUR
COLLECTIVE FUTURE AND WE SHOULD
DO THE LATTER. SO RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR YES VOTE ON TO THIRTY
THREE THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
A GOOD AFTERNOON CLAN BACK IS
FOR ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS.
DANIEL BEAVERS WITH THE GREEN
LINING INSTITUTE IN SUPPORT.
MIKE ADOPT OFF ON BEHALF OF THE
ACLU OF CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT.
WHOSE MIRAMONTE ON BEHALF OF THE
LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
NO WE COULD BE NO PART OF LEGAL
SERVICES OF PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN AND ALL OF US AND THEN
BAY AREA. AND STRONG SUPPORT.
AVI DECIDED COMMUNITY HOUSING
PARTNERSHIP STRONG SUPPORT.
A MICROPROCESSOR ALONG POVERTY
AND I'M ALSO THE MENTOR DOES WPI
TEAM IS VERY PROUD OF THEM TODAY.
PART OF THEIR ANY.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
WELL.
.
CURIOUSLY.
ARE.
I LOVE THE IDEA AND CONCEPT BUT
WE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH IT I
HAD SOME IDEAS.
AT THAT.
SO.
IF I CAN'T AFFORD THE TICKETS
HOW CAN I AFFORD THE CLASSES.
HOW HOW DO WE PAY FOR THE
CLASSES?
SO FIRST FAULT I THINK IF WE
TAKE A LOOK AT EIGHT HUNDRED
DOLLAR FINE AND IS GONNA LOOK AT
COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR EXAMPLE.
EACH COMMUNITY COLLEGE UNION IS
ABOUT FORTY SIX BUCKS PER UNIT.
SO AYE IF I AM AN INDIVIDUAL
THAT IS FACING A FINE BETWEEN
EIGHT HUNDRED EIGHT HUNDRED
FIFTY DOLLARS.
I HAVE TO BE A PAPER CHANGE THE
BASE FEE OF A HUNDRED.
PLUS ADDITIONAL BASE FEE OF A
HUNDRED HUNDRED FIFTY THAT'S
MUCH LESS. THAN WHAT I WOULD
HAVE TO PAY IF I'M PAIN THAT
FOUR EIGHT HUNDRED.
NUMBER TWO I IF YOU'RE GOING
THROUGH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
YOU MAY NOT EVEN HAVE A WHAT AT
AT FEET TO BE ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE IF YOU'RE OUT
GETTING MANDATED CORPS CREDIT.
SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I THINK
THAT. OTHER COSTS IS GONNA BE
NEGLIGIBLE PUT THE BENEFIT IS
CAN BE SIGNIFICANT
BECAUSE RATHER THAN.
SEND SOMEONE TO GO PICK UP TRASH
ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
A CLEAN GRAFFITI OFF THE SIDE OF
THE BUILDING. YOU'RE PROVING
YOURSELF WHICH IMPROVES YOUR
FAMILY IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE
WE'RE LOOKING AYE AS A GREAT
BENEFIT. TO THE INDIVIDUAL. AND
UP MOST LIKELY MAY NOT EVEN HAVE
TO PAY.
SO THAT BRINGS RETURN NEXT
QUESTION PLEASE SO IF I DON'T
HAVE TIME TO
PARTICIPATE IN THOSE CURRENT
PROGRAM.
I AM I GONNA HAVE TIME.
TO GO TO CLASS.
NEW MOST CLASSES THAT I TAKE
FOR EVERY UNIT.
IT TAKES IT'S USUALLY THAT MANY
HOURS OF STUDY.
I IN CLASSROOM AND OUTSIDE THE
CLASSROOM.
PER WEEK SO PRIVATE THREE
UNICLASS I'M LOOKING AT SIX
HOURS
BETWEEN IN THE CLASS IN OUR
CLASS PER WEEK.
SO ALL.
ISN'T THIS A MUCH GREATER TIME
COMMITMENT.
THEN.
WORKING.
PICKING UP TRASH HER COMMUNITY
SERVICE I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT
IS THAT I FIRST OF ALL WE THINK
THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE BETTER
FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
UP BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES.
AND THIS IS ONLY AN OPTION.
SO THE COURT OUT COULD PROVIDE
THIS IS AN OPTION VERSUS A
COMMUNITY SERVICE ACTIVITY.
BUT ALSO MOST OF THESE PROGRAMS
SO FOR EXAMPLE COMPUTER CLASSES
LITERACY COURSES.
WRITING COURSES ENGLISH AS A
SECOND LANGUAGE IS DESIGNED FOR
ADULTS.
SO THAT COULD BE OFFERED AYE IN
THE EVENING UP OR ON WEEKENDS
WHEN EITHER AYE IN LAWS COULD BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT. A SPOUSE OR
PARTNER COULD SUPPORT US I
BELIEVE IS PROVIDES ADDITIONAL
FLEXIBILITY OF FOR INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARE FACED WITH THESE
EXORBITANT. FINES ARE FEES.
THEN.
.
HOW DO WE KNOW THE? WHERE THE
PARAMETERS FOR CLASS LECTURE SO?
I DECIDED WERE UNDERTAKEN ARE
CLASSY YOGA CLASS OF WEIGHT
LIFTING CLASS.
HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT WORK E.
CAN TAKE A YOGA CLASS HER WEIGHT
LIFTING CLASS AND SO WE ARE? SO
THIS IS WHAT I COMMUNITY SERVICE
SHEET LOOKS LIKE ARE IN THIS IS
FROM THE MARIN COUNTY SUPERIOR
COURT FOR EXAMPLE. IT CLEARLY
STATES
TIME THAT YOU PUT IN YOU HAVE TO
BE ABLE TO GET A SIGNATURE AYE
I AND IT HAS TO BE TRACKED
SAME THING IN SAYING CONCEPT
THIS BILL. IF YOU'RE GOING
THROUGH A NONPROFIT AGENCIES
ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE TO BE SIGNED
OFF BY THAT INSTRUCTOR OR THAT
NONPROFIT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR
MANAGER WITHIN THE AGENCY. YOU
MORE SPECIFICALLY CENTER
REQUIRES THAT IN A FEW LOOK AND
SENATOR ANDERSON ON PAGE THREE
OF THE BILL. THEY IT IT
EXPLICITLY INDICATES WHICH
PRICES ARE CLASSES.
BE ELIGIBLE AND IT.
FOR EXAMPLE LITERACY COMPUTER.
I'M GENERAL ED PRE
APPRENTICESHIP. AND SO IT IT GUY
DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE TYPE THAT
YOU DESCRIBE.
WE ALSO WELCOME IF THERE'S ANY
AT FEEDBACK AT THAT ANY
ORGANIZATION MAY HAVE AYE WE
WELCOME THAT WE ARE CONTINUE
DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME
ORGANIZATIONS IN THROUGH THE
CHAIR I BELIEVE YOU WANTED TO BE
ABLE TO ADD ON.
AS WELL UP I MEAN I THINK THAT.
WHERE HIGHLIGHTING GOOD POINTS
HERE THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE ARE
BOTH TIME POOR AND MONEY POOR
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF TIME AND A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE IT
SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO PROVIDE
TO THE JUDGE THE FLEXIBILITY TO
BE ABLE TO A LOT? THOSE LIMITED
RESOURCES TO YOU KNOW I THEY'RE
PICKING UP TRASH ON THE SIDE OF
THE ROAD OR IN PUTTING THAT
MONEY AND THAT TIME TOWARDS
IMPROVING THE INDIVIDUALS FUTURE
AND THEIR EARNING POWER AND
THEIR ABILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO
THEIR COMMUNITY MORE POSITIVELY.
SO MY.
I HAVE JUST TO WORKERS EUROPE
POLICE QUESTIONS.
SO IS THERE A GRADE REQUIREMENTS
SO I SIGNED UP FOR THIS A BLOW
OFF CLASS DON'T SHOP AGAIN NAFF.
WHAT IS THAT WORK DEPENDS ON THE
COURSE SO THERE ARE SOME PASS
FAIL COURSES?
BUT THERE ARE SOME ATTENDANCE
REQUIREMENTS NOT I'M NOT WORRIED
ABOUT PASS FAIL WORRIED ABOUT.
SOMEBODY WHO CHOOSES TO GAME THE
SYSTEM BY TAKING A CLASS AND NOT
SO QUICK TO READ FROM THE BILL
ONCE AGAIN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
ON PAGE THREE THE BILL IT STATES
THAT IS WHERE HE FOUND MUST HAVE
AGREED OF HERE HIGHER.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE SEWAGE
BOTH THE BILL SPECIFIES WHAT'S
ALLOWABLE IN ALSO SPECIFIES.
THAT THE US SIGNING OFF ENTITY
IN ORDER FOR THIS TO QUALIFY.
A PERSON WOULD HAVE TO GET
AGREED IF YOU'RE HIGHER.
AND ULTIMATELY I THROUGH THE
CHAIR OF IT'S OKAY THE CHAIRED
THE JUDGE IS GOING TO BE THE ONE
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THE
DECISION IF IT'S GOING TO
SATISFY. ENOUGH ON FACING EIGHT
HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLAR FINE IN THE
POTENTIAL OF IT A GROWING IF I
DON'T SATISFY THE JUDGE'S ORDER.
I HAVE A GREAT INCENTIVE TO MAKE
SURE THAT I AM FALLING THROUGH
THE MANDATE OF THE COURT.
SO ARE YOU GO BACK TO THE BILL.
SECTION ONE OUR UNDER TWELVE OH
NINE POINT FIVE. IF YOU COULD
ONLY A AND THEN YOU GO DOWN
FURTHER.
IT SAYS.
.
DE ONE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS
FOR THE PURPOSE.
OF THIS SECTION INCLUDE BUT ARE
NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING. IF
YOU GO DOWN TO F..
AFTER.
IT. ADULT EDUCATION INCLUDING
BUT NOT LIMITED TO PARENTING
ILLITERACY MENTAL AND PHYSICAL
HEALTH WORKSHOPS CLASSES AND
PROGRAMS.
I INTERPRET THAT MANAGE HERE HA
IS P. HARSCO PROFESSOR OKAY.
SURE.
WITH THE AUTHOR.
BE A BE OPEN TO NARROWING THAT
DOWN TO REMOVE BAD LUCK. I GET
IT FROM GET MY DEGREE I GOT TO
GET P. CLASS AT SOME POINT I GET
THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WHEN WE'RE FOR
THE PURPOSES THAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO ACHIEVE AND WHICH I DON'T
DISAGREE WITH.
I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT. AND THEN
FIND OUT SOMEONE'S TAKING P. FOR
THE FIFTEENTH TIME.
AS A WAY TO GAME THE SYSTEM AND
SUGGESTING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO GAME THE SYSTEM.
BUT I AM SUGGESTING THAT.
ARE IN MY DISTRICT.
THERE'D BE VERY LITTLE STOMACH
FOR PEOPLE TAKING P. CLASSES
WHO HAVE ALLOWED THEIR TICKETS
TO RISE TO THAT LEVEL WITHOUT
TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO AMEND
THAT DOWN TO EXCLUDE THAT I
COULD SUPPORTED TODAY.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK
HE COULD DO IT NOW COMING
COMMITTEES IT THROUGH THE CHAIR
WERE ARTY AT IN DISCUSSIONS FOR
EXAMPLE WITH THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S ASOCIATION. WHO HAVE
SHARED SOME SIMILAR NOT EQUAL
CONCERNS OF WINE TO BE ABLE TO
SPECIFY OUT WHAT WOULD? I.
QUALIFY FOR SUCCESS IN WHAT
WOULD NOT. AND WE ARE WAITING
CANDIDLY FOR LANGUAGE SO I CAN'T
COMMIT TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT
WOULD LOOK LIKE BUT WHAT I CAN
TELL YOU IS THAT WE ARE AN
ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW
WITH AT LEAST ONE ENTITY. THAT
HAS SOME. SIMILAR DISCUSSION OR
HAVE SME SUMMER CONCERNS YOU DO
SENATOR ANDERSON AYE AND YOU
HAVE MY OBLIGATION THAT IT'S
GOING TO BE AN OPTION THAT WERE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT.
AND CANDIDLY I DO BELIEVE THAT
WE'RE GOING TO NARROW AYE AS WE
MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.
ARE.
FROM MY OWN TIME I I I JUST I
WOULD I WOULD JUST SAY THAT.
YOU ALSO EXCLUDED FOR PROFIT
UNIVERSITIES IN.
LUCK.
I WANT THEM TO GET THE BEST
EDUCATION AND I WANT THEM TO
HAVE THE MOST OPPORTUNITY.
YEAH AND I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE
SOME THOSE.
FOR PROFIT UNIVERSITIES DO A
LOT OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
THEY MIGHT BE OPENED OFFERING
SPECIAL SCHOLARSHIPS.
TO FOLKS WHO WANT TO TAKE THESE
TYPES OF CLASSES
IN MANY INSTANCES THOSE ARE
REMOTE CLASSES WHICH WOULD EVEN
FIT FURTHER INTO THEIR ABILITY.
TO TO MEET THE COURT ORDER AT
THE SAME TIME NOT TAKE CONWAY
FROM THEIR FAMILY.
I KNOW THAT.
.
MY WIFE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL
AFTER OUR FAMILY WAS STARTED SHE
CHANGE CAREERS. YOU HAND
WHENEVER CLASH COULD TAKE OUR
OVER THE INTERNET WAS GREATLY
HELPFUL.
DOCTOR A TIME SAVINGS AND YET
SHE STILL EARNED HER MASTER'S.
SO.
I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU TAKE A LOOK
THERE'S NUYS PURDUE TO BE VERY
WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IT.
TO CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
SO THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST
OPTIONS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN FINALLY.
WHAT OF OUR?
THE ITEMS THAT MANY OF US HAVE
BEEN FIGHTING.
IN THE LAST TWO YEARS IN.
I KNOW SENATOR MITCHELL'S BEEN
ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS WITH ME
AT ALONG WITH OTHERS. IS THAT
WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE
ADDITIONAL PENALTIES SO YOU GET
A PARKING TICKET MAYBE TWENTY
FIVE DOLLARS.
BUT BY THAT TIME WE GET DONE
WITH WITH ALL THE FEES AND ALL
THE OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEMS YOU
COULD BE LOOKING AT TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS WHERE
I'D MUCH RATHER FOCUS.
OUR ALTHOUGH.
HELPING PEOPLE IMPROVE
THEMSELVES LIFTING HIM IN THE
COMMUNITIES THAT COULD CHANGE
YOUR STATION IN LIFE.
IS CERTAINLY LAUDABLE IN I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THIS.
WITH WITH
YOUR ATTENTION STATED TO
PUBLICLY.
BUT I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD
GIVE UP.
FOCUSING.
I'M LAURIN ALL THOSE PENALTIES
AND FEES
SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T HIT WITH
EIGHT HUNDRED OUR.
PEACE WITH THIS STUFF BECAUSE I
KNOW THAT. WHEN I WAS WORKING MY
WAY THROUGH COLLEGE I DON'T HAVE
ANY EXTRA MONEY AND IN I WOULD
FIX THEIR TAIL LIGHT IF I COULD
OF FORTY DID BUT I HAD TO CHOOSE
I'D CHOOSE BETWEEN BOOKS
METALLIC.
SO.
THANK
NO I THINK IT'S MUCH.
THERE IS SOME THEIR MOON KNOW
NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION SO. ON.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR.
SO LITTLE OKAY.
AND I THINK SENATOR ANDERSON
MADE SOME LEGITIMATE POINTS THAT
AND CLEARLY SENATOR MCGUIRE YOU
INDICATED THAT YOU AND WILL BE.
WORKING ON THIS IN MAY ZERO SOME
OF THE.
ALLOWABLE COURSES.
BUT WITHOUT IT IS SAY I DO
PASSED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
AND.
.
WELL DO A ROLL CALL AT IT IS
CAME INTERNET CENTER EXACTLY TO
SAY I THINK YOU SO MUCH OF FOR
THE ROBUST DISCUSSION WE ARE
COMMITTED TO. CONTINUE TO HAVE A
DISCUSSION ABOUT NARROWING
LANGUAGE I DO WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU TO THE WOMEN'S POLICY
INSTITUTE THEY HAVE BEEN
INSTRUMENTAL ARE AND WORK IN
THIS BILL WITH OUR OFFICE AND WE
CAN BE MORE GRATEFUL.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND HAVING
BEEN A.
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER WOMAN. SINGLE
MOTHER FACED A VERY SIMILAR
SITUATION THOUGH I DID MY
COMMUNITY SERVICE BUT ANYWAY I
AM VERY GLAD THAT AT. THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES
BECAUSE IT TOOK ME AND A LONG
TIME BUT ANYWAY.
WE WILL PICKEREL COUGH.
FIFTY PASSED TO A PREP SKINNER.
I SKINNER AYE ANDERSON ARE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
MITCHELL I MITCHELL AYE STONE
STONE AYE WIENER.
RIGHT FROM THE ROLE WAS STATE
OPEN THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I WILL BE
QUICK AND I DO HAVE.
I'M SORRY.
WELL I DO HAVE A TWENTY FIVE
CHILDREN YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE
HERE THEY DON'T HAVE THEY'RE NOT
TESTIFY BUT THEY CAME HERE FROM
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO BE HERE
AND COUPLE WILL TESTIFY. I WILL
DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND
GO THROUGH IT AYE. ENOUGH TO
EACH YEAR INDULGENCE.
TWENTY.
HERE ARE A.
THANK THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
APPRECIATE THAT.
WE SHOULD THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS
TAKING TIME TO MEET WITH ME OVER
THE LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS THE
IMPORTANT ISSUE ON OUTLINED THE
AMENDMENTS THAT I WAS THAT THE
CHAIR AND I WORKED WITH YESTER
ON YESTERDAY.
AND.
AND DISCUSSED AND.
DISTURBED.
TO REITERATE.
WHAT WE DO TALK ABOUT THE FIRST
OFFENSE WOULD BE A WARNING
SECOND OFFENSE WOULD BE?
CITATION WITH A POINT ON A
RECORD AND.
.
WITH NO FINE AND POSSIBLY DRIVE
DRIVING SCHOOL TO ALLEVIATE
ELIMINATE THE POINT.
OTHER THIRD OFFENSE IS A LICENSE
SUSPENSION FOR ONE YEAR WHICH
WOULD BE WITH THE ORIGINAL BILL
WAS DISCUSSING.
AND.
AND THIS BILL WOULD PREVENT YOU
FROM USING MARIJUANA AND DRIVING.
BUT IT REASONABLE WAY I COULD GO
OVER THAT THE ENTIRE. A.
STATEMENT BUT I DO WANT TO BE
SENSITIVE TO THE TIME AND I
THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
BILL IS AND WHAT IT IS ABOUT AND.
I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT BUT
THE YOU KNOW I MEAN THE MAIN
STATISTICS IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK
AT WHAT HAPPENED IN.
IN WITH WITH ALCOHOL AND YOUTH
THAT.
THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE AND
WE SAW THAT.
OF THOSE UNDER AGE TWENTY ONE
IS BACK IN THE NINETIES WHEN THE
ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY WAS
ENACTED IT SAVE LIVES AND REDUCE
REDUCE DRINKING AND DRIVING
ACTIONS BY TWENTY PERCENT.
AND NOW THE MARIJUANA IS LEGAL
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
YOUTH KNOW THAT IT'S ILLEGAL IF
THEY'RE UNDER TWENTY ONE AND
SHOULD NEVER SMOKING DRIVE AND.
I'M IN IN MARIJUANA USE OF YOUTH
AMONG A AKA USE AMONG OUR YOUTH
IS ON THE RISE. TWENTY PERCENT
OF AMERICANS IN TWENTY TWENTY
SIXTEEN BETWEEN THE AGES OF
EIGHTEEN AND TWENTY FIVE USE
MARIJUANA AT LEAST MONTHLY THE
HIGHEST NUMBER SINCE NINETEEN
EIGHTY FIVE.
AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY
JUST THREE POINT FIVE PERCENT OF
THE PEOPLE UNDER TWENTY ONE.
WHO DIED IN CALIFORNIA CRACK CAR
CRASHES IN TWENTY THIRTEEN THREE
POINT FIVE PERCENT?
TESTED POSITIVE FOR DELTA
NINETEEN EACH CITY IN TWENTY
FIFTEEN.
TWO YEARS LATER IT JUMPED OVER
FIFTEEN PERCENT
SO IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A
PROBLEM AND THE.
I HAVE SOME WITNESSES HERE BUT
MORE IMPORTANT THAT.
WE JUST TARGET IT'S NOT JUST
MARIJUANA DRIVERS THAT ARE
KILLING THEMSELVES THEY'RE
KILLING OTHERS AS WELL. CHP
OFFICER JUSTIN MCCRORY WHO WAS
KILLED BY AN EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD
MOTORS TO HAD BEEN DROPPED
SMOKING MARIJUANA AND THEN
DECIDED TO DRIVE OFFICER MCCURRY
THE FATHER OF FOUR WAS
CONDUCTING A ROADSIDE TRAFFIC
STOP IN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.
WHEN HE WAS FATALLY STRUCK BY A
DRUG DRUG DRIVER IN TWENTY TEN
WE'RE JOINED TODAY BY JUSTIN'S
FATHER RETIRED CH P. LIEUTENANT
ROBERT MACQUARIE. ARE ALSO
JOINED BY MEMBERS OF THE
NATIONAL YOUTH HEALTH AND SAFETY
ORGANIZATION STUDENTS AGAINST
DESTRUCTIVE DECISIONS OASIS'S
HOOKY FROM NORTH HIGH SCHOOL. IN
TORRANCE JULIO MENDEZ VARGAS AND.
AUGUSTINE RALEA FROM UCLA IN
TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVOCATE AARON
HOMES.
IF WE COULD BE A.
ALLOW TIME THREE WITNESSES TO
SPEAK A THE THREE YOU JUST ARE
SITTING AT THE TABLE. AND THEN
THE OTHERS WILL JUST IS YOUR
NAME AND AFFILIATION A BANK
YOU'D THINK AMENITIES OVERSEE.
THE MORNING RAINY.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS JULIA
MENDEZ VARGAS AND I'M A THIRD
YEAR POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AND
PUBLIC AFFAIRS MINOR AYE UCLA.
AYE LIGHTS ARE OFF BY THINKING
CHAIR WOMAN SKINNER AND THE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR
LETTING US SPEAK TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF SB TWELVE SEVENTY
THREE.
AS THE NETWORK OF TEN THOUSAND
CHAPTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH
HUNDREDS IN CALIFORNIA THAT
STANDS AS THE NATION'S PREMIER
YOUTH HEALTH AND SAFETY
ORGANIZATION. I'M HERE TODAY
JOINED BY SAT STUDENTS FROM
NORTH HIGH SCHOOL AND DON PEDRO
HIGH SCHOOL ON BEHALF OF
HUNDREDS OF THAT STUDENTS IN
CALIFORNIA WHO SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO MARIJUANA IN MY
EXPERIENCE MANY COLLEGE STUDENTS.
AND OLDER TEENS DO BELIEVE THAT
IT IS SAFER SUBSTANCE TO USE
COMPARED TO ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO.
ACCORDING TO MY PEERS GETTING
BEHIND THE WHEEL LA CONSUMING
MARIJUANA IS SEEN AS A RISKY
DECISION BUT NOT AS BAD AS
DRIVING DRUNK.
BY APPLYING THE SAME CONCEPT
CONCEPT OF ZERO TOLERANCE FOR
DRIVING DRINKING AND DRIVING TO
MARIJUANA USAGE OF DRIVING I
STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT MY PEERS
WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
BOTH THE LEGAL AND LIFE
THREATENING. RAMIFICATIONS OF
DRIVING WHILE HIGH IS EXACTLY
WHAT S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY THREE
WOULD DO AND I AS THE UCLA
STUDENTS THAT STUDENT AND KEPT
CONCERN CALIFORNIA RESIDENT.
SO STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL
AND URGE THE COMMITTEE TO DO SO
AS WELL.
NEXT WHAT.
THE MORNING WHEN HE WAS.
A SENIOR AT NORTH HIGH SCHOOL IN
TORRANCE CALIFORNIA.
I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN SKINNER
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO
YOU THIS MORNING IN SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL TWELVE SEVENTY THREE.
TOO MANY OF MY PEERS THINK
MARIJUANA IS OKAY AND SAFE TO
USE.
JUST LAST WEEK I ASK A FEW OF MY
PEERS FOR THEIR OPINION ON
MARIJUANA IMPAIR DRIVING.
ONE PERSON SAID THEY BELIEVE
SOME PEOPLE WHO REALLY FOCUS CAN
ACTUALLY DRIVE BETTER THAN WHEN
THEY ARE SOBER.
OTHER SIDE OF THE EFFECTS OF
MARIJUANA ON PEOPLE THEY KNOW
AND TO ME THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO
DRIVE BUZZ ARE FINE.
ONE STATED MY BROTHER DOES IT
BUT HE DOESN'T DRIVE DIFFERENTLY.
THAT IS WHY S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY
THREE IS SO IMPORTANT.
TEENS AND THEIR PARENTS WERE NO
THAT IS UNSAFE AND ILLEGAL TO
USE MARIJUANA AND THEN DRIVE.
IT WILL COMPLEMENT THE EFFORTS
OF OUR SIDE CHAPTER AND OTHER
CHAPTERS ACROSS THE STATE.
AND OUR EFFORTS TO EDUCATE OUR
PEERS AND PARENTS ABOUT THE
DANGERS OF YOUR USING MARIJUANA
NOW DRUG LIKE MARIJUANA AFFECT
YOUR ABILITY TO DRIVE.
IF S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY THREE IS
PASSED CALIFORNIA WILL AGAIN BE
A LEADER AND TREND SETTER IN
TEAM TRAFFIC SAFETY. BUT MOST
IMPORTANTLY S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY
THREE WILL SAVE THE LIFE OF ONE
OF MY FRIENDS OR PEERS AND
REALLY THERE'S NOTHING MORE
IMPORTANT THAN THAT. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
NEXT ONE MORNING
THANK YOU HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE
PENTAGON UMBER AND WOOD ALAMEDA
COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
CURRENTLY BUT PRIOR TO JOINING
SHERIFF'S OFFICE AYE. I DID A
FULL CAREER CALIFORNIA HER
PATROL I RETIRED FROM THE HEART
DRAWS LIEUTENANT PRIOR TO
RETIRING NOW MY SON JUST MCGRORY
JOIN IRA PATROL. HERE'S ON NOT A
HIGHER TRUMP ABOUT TWO YEARS
HERE'S AUTOTROPHS STOP ON THE
RIGHT SHOULDER ABOUT. STRAIGHT
FREEWAY THE FIFTEEN FREEWAY IN.
AREA BARSTOW. A ARE IMPAIRED
MARIJUANA PARA DRIVER EIGHTEEN
YEAR OLD I RAFEAL GARCIA.
TRIPPED OFF ON A SHOULDER TO
THE RIGHT SIDE OF PATROL CAR MY
SON'S CHOICE A FIELD SOBRIETY
TEST OF THE DRIVER THE RIGHT
FRONT. THE CAR STRUCK MY SONNET
SEVENTY EIGHT MILES AN HOUR KILL
THEM INSTANT.
ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY A AND YOU CAN
IMAGINE WHAT MYSELF MY FAMILY
GOING THROUGH AND CONTINUE TO GO
THROUGH.
IT'S A LIFETIME SENTENCE IF YOU
WILL.
BELIEVE ACCEPTED IT. NAM MANY
AYE FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE FORGIVEN
RAPHAEL GARCIA WE HAVE A GOOD
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM
NOW BECAUSE I KNOW HE DID WE GET
THAT MORNING. AND SAY I'M WHAT
WHAT WHAT KILL AN OFFICER HE
WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND SAID
HEY I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A
SPOKESMAN ONE WE HAVE A GOOD
TIME. AND WINNING HE HE WAS
ACTUALLY FROM LAS VEGAS.
AND HAS SPENT THE WEEKEND AND
NOT LOS ANGELES WITH SOMEBODY'S.
THEY'LL EVEN AN EARLY MORNING
AND HE SAYS THIS IS THESE ARE
HIS WORDS RAFAEL'S WHERE HE SAID.
HIS EVERYBODY ELSE OF INTRICATE
ALCOHOL I ONLY SMOKE MARIJUANA
IT ONLY MAKES SENSE ME DR NO IT
DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FEAR DRIVE.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA A SENSE OF YOU
STATE THREE MORE HOURS FOUR
HOURS EVER TOOK BEGIN TOMORROW
ON OUR SYSTEM DOESN'T TAKE THAT
LONG AND THEN TRIED?
WE TAKEN THAT DO HAVE IT WOULD
EVER HAVE TO DO.
IT IS MY SON'S DEATH HAS HAS
AND IT'S NOT JUST MY FAMILY I'M
NOT JUST A SUPPLIER IT'S NOT MY
WIFE MIGHT MY MY BROTHER AND
SISTER IN ITS AUNTS UNCLES
COUSINS NEPHEWS AND MILITARY
MEMBERS ANY SERB MILITARY WHERE.
HIGH SCHOOL BUDDIES HUNDREDS AD
HUNDREDS OF LIVES BEEN AFFECTED
BY THIS HAD RAFEAL GARCIA AND
STOP BY HER PATROL OFFICER.
BEEN HAD IS LIKE A SUSPENDED OR
BEEN FORCED TO GO TO SOME KIND
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM TO TEACH AND
THE DANGERS OF SMOKING AND
DRIVING MAYBE MY SON TO BE ALIVE
TODAY I'M NOT FAVOR PUNISHING
PEOPLE. NOT WHY I'M HERE AND
THERE ON THE ASSEMBLY OF THE
JAIL BECAUSE TRACK AND OR
SMOKING AND GET CAUGHT WITHOUT
WITH MYRA AMOUNTS OF IN THEIR
SYSTEM. BUT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE
TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO
EDUCATE THE YOUNG THAT WE CAN
EDUCATE THE WATER YOUNG THE
BECOME MORE MORE RESPONSIBLE
ADULTS.
AND AND AS A RESPONSIBLE ADULT
STILL HELP EVEN THE YOUNGER
PEOPLE AGAIN.
AGAIN I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF OF OF
PUNISHING PEOPLE BUT WE HAVE TO
EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.
EDUCATION JUST NOT THERE.
.
FOR EVERYBODY AND DIE I THANK
EVERYBODY FOR HAVING ME HERE AND.
.
I HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH
THESE THESE MINOR DRIVERS ITSELF
AWAY TO SAVE LIVES AND FUTURE.
THANK YOU APPRECIATE YOUR
TESTIMONY AND VERY SORRY FOR
YOUR LOSS.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT GO
AHEAD.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS SHAUNA WITH
THE CALIFORNIA PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
THEY ARE LIKE IT AND I WANNA
SHOW YOU TO VICTIMS.
PEYTON BEING AND.
CANDACE.
ONE DIED ONE LIVE.
AND THE GRANDMA SENT ME HER
PICTURE.
SHE SAYS GOODNIGHT TOUR EVERY
NIGHT ON FACEBOOK.
THESE ARE TWO VICTIMS OF MANY
VICTIMS FAVORITE PICTURES SOME
FAMILIES. THAT I HAVE AT HOME.
PLEASE STOP THIS.
PLEASE.
SAVE OUR CHILDREN BANK THIS IS
ONLY TWO OF MANY.
TURN MEMBERS JONATHON FELDMAN
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS AARON HOMES
IN THE DIRECTOR OF TRAFFIC
SAFETY AT THE FOUNDATION FOR
ADVANCING ALCOHOL RESPONSIBILITY
FOR NONPROFIT IN THE DC AREA
THAT SUPPORTED BY AMERICA'S
LEADING DISTILLERS. AND WE ARE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL
TWELVE SEVENTY.
MORNING MEN CHAIR RANGER WITH
THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING.
STANDARD YOUR POLITICAL SCIENCE
MAJOR EASILY OF ALSO A STRONG
SUPPORT OF S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY
THREE.
IF YOU IF I COULD THERE IS OUR
GROUP IF I COULD ASK THEM TO
STAND PLEASE IS THE DON PEDRO
HIGH SCHOOL FRONT WOLLEMI COUNTY
OVER HERE.
IT'S BEEN VERY EVERYONE CAN JUST
RECOGNIZE IT THEY ARE HERE IN
SUPPORT OF THE LEGISLATURE.
THANKS VERY MUCH.
AND I HAVE TO TURN THE GAVEL
OVER TO CENTER ANDERSON THE
PERCENTAGE AT ANOTHER COMMITTEE.
AND.
.
WE'RE GOING TO READ ONE FORTY
FIVE WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT.
ONE FORTY FIVE IN REAL.
ONE THIRTEEN.
SO.
.
WE CAN GO FOR JUST A FEW MORE
MINUTES AND THEN.
.
I DON'T KNOW FORGET THE POINT OF
OF VOTING ON THE BILL WE MAY
HAVE TO DO THAT WHEN WE
RECONVENE AND THEN WE CAN REPEAT
WHAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE SO
PEOPLE NOW OKAY.
THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD SENATOR. SMITH THIRD WE
HAVE ANY WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
IF YOU WOULD MIND MAKING SOME
ROOM AT THAT TABLE THERE.
MY COMMITTEE GOING BACK IS FOR
DRUG POLICY ALLIANCE I'LL BE
BRIEF OF THE TESTS THAT ARE
BEING MANDATED IN THIS BILL ARE
UNRELIABLE.
IN.
SOME STUDIES THE TESTS ARE BEING
MANDATED THE MOUTH SWABS HAVE
BEEN. HAVE FALSE POSITIVES OF UP
TO FOURTEEN AND A HALF PERCENT
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
IT'S A BAD IDEA TO MANDATE. THAT
PEOPLE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO AN
UNRELIABLE BIOLOGICAL TEST ON
THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I WOULD LIKE KERN.
POINT OUT THAT.
THERE'S A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY
THAT THESE TESTS FALSE POSITIVES
INCLUDE PICKING UP THE
DESIGNATED DRIVER.
DESIGNATED DRIVER WHO'D SPENT
TIME WITH HIS FRIENDS AT A PARTY
NOT SMOKING MARIJUANA BUT HIS
FRIENDS WERE.
ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS TOLD
BY THE OFFICER. TAKE THE TEST.
IF YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY TRACE
AMOUNT.
I YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THESE
PENALTIES.
IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE TEST
YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THESE
PENALTIES.
ETCETERA RELIABLE WE DO HAVE.
EXISTING LAWS THAT ARE VALUABLE
AND USEFUL AT TO ADDRESS THIS
PROBLEM.
INCLUDE.
THAT'S ILLEGAL FOR A PERSON OR
TWENTY ONE TO POSSESS CANNABIS.
IT'S ILLEGAL FOR ANY PERSON TO
USE CANNABIS WHILE DRIVING.
AND IT'S ILLEGAL TO DRIVE WHEN
HAT YOU'RE IMPAIRED THOSE OUR
CURRENT LAWS AND THEY SHOULD BE
ADEQUATE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
WE WILL REVIEW THE AMENDMENTS
BEFORE THE NEXT COMMITTEE SHOULD
THE BILL MOVE FORWARD AND.
ASSESS OUR POSITION AT THAT
TIME BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM
OF THE TEST BEING UNRELIABLE AND
BEING USED AS THE BASIS FOR.
PENALTIES AND PUNISHMENTS
CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU MICHAEL DOCTOR OFF ON
BEHALF OF THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA
ALSO HERE AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION I WOULD ECHO MY
COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS AND ADD ON
TO ADDITIONAL POINTS. ONE IS
THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE
PENALTIES AND CORRESPONDING FEES
LEVIED ON DRIVERS.
FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
ARE TOO ONEROUS FOR MANY
INDIVIDUALS TO PAY AS ARE THE
COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCES.
OF LOSING ONE'S LICENSE.
AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE
FOR LOW INCOME DRIVERS. AND AND
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ON EQUALLY
HARMED BY THE LOSS OF DRIVING
PRIVILEGES AND MAY HAVE NO OTHER
WAY TO GET TO WORK. ARM OR TO
SCHOOL ANY PERSON WHOSE LICENSE
IS SUSPENDED UNDER VEHICLE CODE
THIRTEEN THREE THIRTY EIGHT
REQUEST A REVIEW OF THE
SUSPENSION DECISION MUST PAY A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS
FEE. IF THE SUNS SUSPENSION
DECISION AS UP HELD THE PERSON
MUST PAN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED
DOLLARS. IN ADDITION TO ANY
OTHER FEES REQUIRED FOR THE
REASSURANCE OR RETURN OF A
DRIVER'S LICENSE.
.
AS HIGHLIGHTED IN A RECENT
EDITORIAL LICENSE SUSPENSIONS
DRIVE UP THE COST OF AUTO
INSURANCE FURTHER BURDENING LOW
INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
I'M AND LASTLY WE ARE CONCERNED
THAT NEW ADMINISTRATIVE
PENALTIES CONTEMPLATED BY THIS
LEGISLATION MIGHT BE ON ON
EQUALLY APPLIED TO BLACK AND
LATINO DRIVERS. BE ON EVEN
ENFORCEMENT OF CALIFORNIA'S
TRAFFIC LAWS ON BLACK AND LATINO
DRIVERS IS VERY WELL ESTABLISHED
EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NO
DOCUMENTED DIFFERENCES IN THE
DRIVING BEHAVIORS OF BLACK
LATINO AND WHITE DRIVERS. SB
TWELVE SEVENTY THREE IT MAY BE
USED TO PERPETUATE INEQUALITY
AND TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT WITH THE
CAN COMMENDED HIGH COSTS OF
INCARCERATION FINES AND FEES.
FOR THESE REASONS WE.
HAVE BEEN RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED
A HOWEVER AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO REVIEW THE
RECENT AMENDMENTS.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
SENATORS DON'T.
A THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRPERSON I
WANT TO.
.
HOT MY FRIEND WHO IS A CHAMPION
THIS ISSUE.
AS WE NOW HAVE RECREATIONAL
MARIJUANA THAT IS LEGAL IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND AND AND
AND SENATOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR
GETTING AHEAD OF US AND I WANNA.
APPLAUD ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE
THAT WERE HERE TODAY TOOK THE
TIME TO COME TO THE CAPITAL AND
ENJOY YOUR PRESENCE AND I WANT
YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS MEANINGFUL
THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY. AND
HOPEFULLY THIS IS A PART OF A A
GREATER EDUCATION CAMPAIGN
BECAUSE AS WE CAN SEE IN MY
CONDOLENCES SIR TO YOU AND YOUR
AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR
FORGIVENESS OF THE.
OF THE PERPETRATOR
UNFORTUNATELY THAT.
MADE MEHTA WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS
A GOOD DECISION BUT TURNED OUT
TO BE A BAD DECISION PEOPLE
DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE.
THE DEBILITATING.
INTOXICATION THAT CAN HAPPEN
WITH.
MARIJUANA USE.
.
I ALSO.
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THE TESTS
ARE NOT PERFECT BUT WE'RE WE'RE
LOOKING FOR BASICALLY A
QUALITATIVE TEST IS WORKING THE
DETERMINE WITH THE FAST.
HE EIGHT C. ONBOARD OR NOT
NUMBER DECIDE I'D LIKE.
THE OFTEN TALK ABOUT.
HIS EXPERIENCE WITH THE TESTS
THAT.
THEY CLAIM THAT THERE'S THIS
LARGE.
.
A FALSE POSITIVE.
I'M STILL INCLINED TO SUPPORT
THE BILL BECAUSE I STILL EIGHTY
FIVE PERCENT THAT WE'RE
DETECTING AND I WOULD ASSUME
THAT AS WE GO ON THROUGH TIME
ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE SEE
GOING ON IN. COLORADO THAT THESE
TESTS ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE
TO MORE.
PRECISE IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN IT ALSO IS A PART OF
THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN WHAT
WHAT WE CALL SECONDHAND SMOKE?
SO AS AN EXAMPLE IN MY DISTRICT
THIS WEEKEND WE'RE GONNA. HAVE A
HUNDRED THOUSAND KIDS AND YOUNG
ADULTS.
COMING TO THE COACHELLA VALLEY
FOR OF THE.
COACHELLA.
CONCERT.
AND I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THEY'RE
GONNA COME WITH A LOT OF
CANNABIS AND. TO TO FURTHER
ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE SO YOU MAY
NOT BE A A.
WANT UTILIZES CANNABIS BUT
YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN HAILING.
SOMETHING THAT STAYS IN THE
BODY FOR A LONG TIME SO MAYBE
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT MAYBE THE
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT
BE INCORPORATED INTO THE BILL
THAT WOULD EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT.
WHILE YOU MAY NOT DIRECTLY
BEASTS SMOKING OR CONSUMING
CANNABIS YOU MAY BE SURROUNDING
YOURSELF BY PEOPLE THAT. ARE
EXHALING IT IN YOUR GREEN THE NM
AND THEREFORE YOU COULD BE THE.
HAVING SOME DETECTION IF YOU ARE
ARE ARE DRIVING AND.
I CERTAINLY.
WANT THOSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
THAT IF THEY ARE AROUND LONG
ENOUGH AND THESE CONCERTS GO A
WHOLE DAY LONG. THAT THEY NEED
TO CONSIDER USING A TAXI CAB
UBER IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE.
DRIVING WHILE THEY'RE.
INADVERTENTLY COMING OUT OF THE
INFLUENCE OF BIG ADDRESS THOSE
CONCERNS.
I'M ISSUE FOR ALL OF YOU BUT IT
ABSOLUTELY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE ONLY.
WITH THE TESTS THAT WE HAVE AND
BY THE WAY THE TESTS ARE USED IN
AUSTRALIA SPAIN FRANCE BELGIUM
UNITED KINGDOM.
TO TRIGGERED A VICE IT ROTATE
AS INTO LOS ANGELES POLICE
DEPARTMENT SACRAMENTO PUSHED ONE
FOR ENGLISH DEPARTMENT BIGGER
FEEL PLEASED FOR MICHIGAN STATE
POLICE COLORADO HIGHWAY PATROL
SOUTH DAKOTA HIGHWAY PATROL
VERMONT HIGHWAY PUT VERMONT
HIGHWAY PATROL. IN MASSACHUSETTS
STATE POLICE ALL USE YOUR FLUTE
FLUTE TESTING TO TEST FOR DRUG
DRIVING.
DRIVERS TODAY ISSUE THAT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS IN THERE'S A
TOXICOLOGIST HERE WHO WOULD BE
HAPPY TO BRING BRING UP TO
DISCUSS THIS. IN MORE DETAIL BUT
THE ISSUE RELATED TO.
ECLOGUE ANCILLARY SMOKE AND IF
YOU'RE SITTING OR STANDING
AROUND SOMEONE MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THE WAY THE TESTS ARE
CALIBRATED. THAT IF YOU WOULD
YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT IS
CALLED HOT BOXING IN ORDER TO
HAVE A. ENOUGH IN THERE TO BE
ABLE TO RECORDED ON THIS
SWAB TEST GOOD BYE BYE SIDE BY
BEING AROUND. NEXT TO IT IS NOT
GOING TO AFFECT YOU AT THE LEVEL
THAT IT WOULD BE TESTED AND
IDENTIFIED IN THE IN THE SWAP.
AYE IF YOU'RE HOT BOXING IN IN
DOING THAT WE'RE IN A CLOSED
ENVIRONMENT YOU SHOULDN'T BE
DRIVING.
AND THAT SHOULD BE DETECTED IN
THAT AS WELL AND I THINK THAT'S
THE POINT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO ACCOMPLISH.
APPRECIATE THAT AT THE BILL'S TO
MOVE OUT OF COMMITTEE AT LIKE WE
HAVEN'T IS CO AUTHOR THANK YOU
VERY MUCH SENATOR.
HIGHER SENATOR MITCHELL OF I
WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE NOT TAKE
A VOTE BEFORE THE BREAK BECAUSE
I THINK SEVERAL OF US HAVE.
QUESTIONS AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
OF THE AUTHOR'S RESPONSE TO SOME
OF THE ISSUES RAISED BY
OPPOSITION SO I WOULD JUST ASK
THAT WE NOT.
CALL FOR A VOTE I THINK YOU HAVE
TO GET IT WAS HIGHER THAN MORE
DEBATE IS THAT THE.
COMMITTEE WE WOULD LIKE TO
SHIFT ARE NOW IS THAT THE.
NOTABLY THE COMMITTEE.
POLICE ARE.
OKAY SOBRE SORRY WHAT I'M GONNA
AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT ACTION
WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT ONE
FORTY FIVE IN ROOM ONE THIRTEEN.
AND.
I CENTER HELD HIGH I THINK THAT
THAT IF THE TOXICOLOGIST COULD
TESTIFY I THINK THEY'LL BE VERY
HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
NOTION OF ZERO.
TOLERANCE.
.
AND I'D LIKE FOR ME MISTER HE'LL
SENATOR HILL IF YOU WILL TO
RESPOND TO THE ISSUE AROUND. THE
TEST I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE
THAT'S COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES
OF THE LEGISLATURE IS DISCUSSED
IN DEL IT AND DEBATE IT. ALMOST
ONCE A CANNABIS WAS LEGALIZED
WHO I THINK WE HEARD AT LEAST IN
THE DIM CAUCUS
WE HAD A. OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
AUDIENCE WITH A A GOVERNOR OF AN
UNNAMED STATE. WHO HOPE FOR
WARNED US ABOUT THE ISSUE AROUND
TESTING IT HOW IT WILL
COMPLICATE MATTERS IF INDEED
CALIFORNIA WHAT'S TO LEGALIZE
CANNABIS AND WE WENT THAT ROUTE?
AND I THINK YOU KNOW ONE OF THE
AREAS THAT THAT I'M STRUGGLING
WITH AND I CAN REALLY DEBATE
EITHER SIDE IS IF THE NOTION IS.
OUR CONCERN AROUND VEHICLE
SAFETY.
THEN.
WHY ARE WE SEEING THAT'S OKAY
THAT IF KIDS HAVE A PRESCRIPTION?
THAT THEY ARE NOT HELD.
SUBJECT TO YOUR BILL. BUT IF IT
THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS VEHICLE
SAFETY AS OPPOSED TO WHETHER
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE IT OR
NOT. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THAT BY
VIRTUE OF THIS BILL WERE
ACTUALLY PUTTING.
YOU DON'T CANNABIS IN STATUTE
WHAT ABOUT OTHER.
PHARMACOLOGICAL OR DRUGS.
OR WHATEVER THAT COMPROMISE OUR
ABILITY TO OPERATE. YOU KNOW
MULTI TON MACHINERY.
THANK YOU OF.
THANK YOU SENATOR OF.
MITCHELL HAVE I APPRECIATE THE
THE QUESTIONS AND I WILL ANSWER
JUST PART OF IT IN THEN I WOULD
LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DOCTOR
CHRISTINE MORE WHO'S A CHIEF
HAVE TOXICOLOGIST FOR ABBOTT
LABORATORIES.
SHE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE
ACCURACY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD
BUT. I DID WANT TO STATE THAT
THE OF.
THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSIT
ATROPHIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION
HAS USE THESE DEVICES FOR THEIR
LAST TWO NATIONAL ROADSIDE.
SURVEYS IN TWO THOUSAND AND
EIGHT AND NINE TWO THOUSAND
THIRTEEN AND FOURTEEN OF
CONTINUE TO USE THEM BECAUSE
THEY STAND BEHIND THE ACCURACY
OF THE TEST. IN THE CALIFORNIA
HIGHWAY PATROL IS STARTING TO
USE THESE DEVICES AS WELL IN THE
FIELD FOR ALL STOPS.
WE'RE ALL STOPS GREENBELTS AND
NOT MIND RELATED TO.
OPIATES ARE OVERREACH SPECIALLY
FOR MARIJUANA AND CANNABINOIDS
THE.
THE ISSUE OF PRESCRIPTION I
WANTED TO DEAL TED TO ANSWER
BECAUSE.
MOST.
MEDICAL.
MARIJUANA CRUCIAL.
DESCRIPTIONS ARE NOT PREFERRED
RECOMMENDATION FROM DOCTORS ARE
NOT PRESCRIPTIONS.
IN I KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF THE
OTHER LEGISLATION I HAVE DEALING
WITH THAT ALLOWING.
MEDICINAL ARIJUANA FOR
CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS
AND THE FACT THAT IS A.
OF MARIJUANA PRODUCT WOULD BE
OR OF A MEDICINAL A.
CANNABIS PRODUCT WOULD BE USED
IN SCHOOL IN THE CONCERNED THEIR
REYES BECAUSE OF THAT.
CB DE PART OF MARIJUANA IS THE
PART THAT IS IN.
A PREDOMINANTLY IN MEDICINAL
MARIJUANA THE C. D. B. WITH A
SLIGHT AMOUNT OF THE T. H. SEE.
VERY LITTLE ARE PART OF THAT
WHICH IS NOT PSYCHO ACTIVE. SO
THE MEDICINAL MARIJUANA THAT
WOULD BE USED BY A PATIENT
DRIVING. WOULD NOT HAVE THE
PSYCHO ACTIVE PART OF IT THAT IS
INCLUDED IN THE CBD AND IN WHAT
I UNDERSTAND TO BE. A
PREDOMINANT.
PRESCRIPTIONS A RECOMMENDATION
FROM DOCTORS SO THEN WHY THEN
WOULD THE BILL THAT JUST BE
SILENT ON THAT POPULATION
THERE'S NO CONCERN THEN WHY DOES
THAT THE BILL AS I RECALL OR IT
BECAUSE THERE IS A SMALL AMOUNT
OF IT IN THE. THE PRODUCT BUT
NOT ENOUGH TO BE.
PSYCHOACTIVE BUT THE BILL IS
ZERO TOLERANCE AND SO IF I'M
TESTED.
AND IT'S AND IT'S DETECTED THEN
WHAT HAPPENS.
BECAUSE I DO BECAUSE IT I RECALL
THE BILL DOES NOT SET A LEVEL OF
ACCEPTANCE IF HE DOES NOT BUT IF
YOU HAVE.
OF.
PRESCRIPTION CARTER OF MEDICINAL
MARIJUANA CAR IN THE PAST THEN
IT'S A PASS IF YOU HAVE A LEVEL
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE. AND YOU ARE
STOP FOR WHATEVER REASON THE
JEWISH STOP FOR AND YOU ARE
GIVEN WITH THE RICHEST ROADSIDE
SOBRIETY TEST OR FOR THE OFFICER
SMELLS MARIJUANA.
CAR THEN THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY IF
YOU HAD A. RECOMMENDATION FROM A
PHYSICIAN YOU WOULD USE THAT
THAT YOU'RE.
YOU'RE FREE CARD IF YOU DID NOT
HAVE THAT THEN THEY WOULD DO THE
DO APPROACH AT SOBRIETY TEST
THEY WOULD DO THE SWAB TEST AND
DETERMINE THAT YOU HAVE THE
PRODUCT IT WITH THE THE THE
CANNABIS IN YOU. IN YOUR SYSTEM
AND.
THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE.
.
CALL UP A FRIEND YOUR PARENTS TO
COME AND TAKE YOU HOME HAVE IT
ANOTHER WRITER IN THE CAR TAKE
YOU HOME. SOMEONE ELSE COULD DO
THAT UBER WOULD TAKE YOU HOME
THEY WOULD NOT A RESCUE THEY
WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING WITH IT
AND SO LET LEAGUE BECAUSE THIS
BILL DOESN'T DEAL WITH LEVELS.
LET'S SEE I DON'T HAVE A CARD
AND YET MY LEVELS ARE NOT ZERO
ZERO TOLERANCE BUT THERE LOW AS
IF IT AT IT I HAD. IT.
INGESTED.
THE SAME AMOUNT OR A MEDICINE
AMID THIS LET'S SAY I AM JUST IN
A MEDICINAL MY FRIENDS MEDICINAL
BUT I DON'T HAVE A CARD.
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CARD. I
STILL.
AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE.
TO THE DEPUTED MEASURES IN THE
BILL I WOULD DEFER THAT GETS TO
MY POINT BY THE FIRE ULTIMATE
CONCERN IS ROAD SAFETY.
YEAH WE'RE DEALING WITH TO THE
TO POPULATION THAT A DIFFERENT
WHY BUT IT REALLY SHOULDN'T
MATTER. BECAUSE THE FUNDAMENTAL
CONCERN IS NOT WHETHER THAT THE
EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD SHOULD HAVE IT.
BUT IT'S ROAD SAFETY YOU MEAN
FOR TURNER ROAD SAFETY YOU COULD
HAVE A CARD THAT GIVES THAT
ALLOWS YOU A PRESCRIPTION FOR AN
OPIOID OR SOME OTHER DRUG THAT
YOU COULD TAKE IN MODERATION.
THAT MAY IMPAIR YOUR DRIVING BUT
WE DON'T HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE
FOR THAT WE HAVE AN IMPAIRED
DRIVING THIS IS FOR PEOPLE UNDER
TWENTY ONE WHICH IS. THE IDEA
BEHIND A PART OF THE IDEA BEHIND
THE LEGISLATION IS TO EDUCATE
MAKE SURE THAT MINERS REALIZE
THE SEVERITY OF THIS BECAUSE
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARTAKE
UNDER TWENTY ONE REGARDLESS OF
ANY CERTAIN.
SO THAT'S MY POINT IS THAT'S THE
REAL ISSUE I GUESS LAST MONTH MY
POINT THE OTHER ISSUE I THINK
WAS REYES UP BY.
ONE OF THE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
AND AND AND AND THIS MAY BE
MORE RHETORICAL DEVELOPMENT YOU
THIS IS FAIR AND THAT DILUTES
EXPECTED YOU HAVE AN ANSWER
QUITE FRANKLY SENATOR HELD THAT.
THE WHOLE NOTION OF RACE RACIAL
PROFILING WHICH ISRAEL.
IN POLICE STOPS.
AND IF ONE POPULATION WILL HAVE
A DISPROPORTIONATE EXPERIENCE
BEING PULLED OVER THEN ANOTHER
AND AND HOW WE.
IF THAT'S OKAY WITH US OR NOT I
THINK THAT'S.
SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST AS WE
GO INTO.
THAT DISCUSSION THAN THE VOTE
AROUND THIS BILL WE HAVE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE IS. IS A STATEMENT
OF FACT ARE IN TERMS OF THE THE
REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. OF
PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES ACROSS
THE STATE IT IT'S A STATEMENT OF
FACT IN REALITY REGARDLESS OF
THIS BILL ARE OUTSIDE OF THE
BILL TRUE BUT WE'RE CLEAR ON
THAT THAT THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR
ARE STOPPED MUCH MORE OFTEN FOR
WHATEVER REASON.
WHETHER PROBABLE CAUSE IS THERE
OR NOT.
THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT AN
OFFICER WOULD STOP YOU WOULD NOT
KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE BEING WHEN
THEY STOP YOU IT WOULD BE FOR
WHATEVER REASON THEY HAVE
PROBABLE CAUSE BECAUSE YOUR TAIL
LIGHTS OUT OR YOU.
SURE OF WHEN YOU WERE WHEN YOU
WERE DRIVING IN THAT WOULD BE
THE COST TO FOR A.
RIGHT OR BEING BLACK AT WHATEVER
THE REASON THERE STOP FOR THEIR
STOP FOR THAT. NOT FOR THE FACT
THAT THEY ARE UNDER TWENTY ONE
WHICH WOULDN'T BE DETERMINED ARE
DEFINED AND ALSO THE FACT OF
WHETHER THEY HAVE BEEN.
INVITING IN SOME MARIJUANA
PRODUCTS OR ALCOHOL OR WHATEVER
THEN THAT WOULD COME FROM THAT
POINT ON. IF THERE IS SOME
IMPAIRED THIS THAT THIS ACTUALLY
WOULD GIVE AN OFFICER AN OPTION.
RATHER THAN GOING WITH A AYE DE
YOU I OR SOMETHING THEY COULD
SAY THEY COULD.
INSTEAD IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE
LEVEL WHERE THEY FELT THEY WERE
NOT IMPAIR TOTALLY BAY COULD.
CITE THEM FOR DO YOU WHY IT
WOULD BE THROWN OUT IN COURT OR
THEY COULD.
GO THIS ROUTE AND GIVE THEM THE
ZERO TOLERANCE CITATION OR
WARNING IS THIS WOULD APPLY IN
THAT WAY THEY WOULD NOT SUFFER
THE EFFECTS OF. WHAT WOULD DE
COULD BE IDEAL Y.?
?
OF COURSE OF OF ENFORCEMENT AND.
ADJUDICATION THAT WOULD BE DOWN
THE ROAD SO I THINK THIS WOULD
I'VE ACTUALLY OFFER AND
TRINITY OF.
TWO A STIFFER OR TOUGHER PENALTY
PENALTY THAT COULD COME FROM
SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN
STOPPED FOR. A NOT A.
A LEGITIMATE REASON.
AYE AT ONE MORE STATE WITH THAT
I'D BE WELCOME THAT THE COMMENTS
FROM THE A TOXICOLOGIST.
.
BECAUSE SHE JUST DISCUSS WITH
THE CHAIR RECENTLY WE DON'T HAVE
IN FRONT OF US I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE I'M CLEAR. THE AND THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE GREEN TO
WORK OUT IN COMMITTEE. OUR FIRST
STOP IS A PASS WARNING.
RECORDED ONE OKAY WHAT IS IT
WHAT IS A RECORDED WARNING WOULD
LET ME BE THAT YOU WOULD BE.
IT WOULD SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A
SECOND STOP IT WOULD BE
LEGITIMATE AND BE IDENTIFIED
THAT THERE WOULD BE A SECOND
STUFF SO YOU WOULD BE RECORDED
THAT YOU HAD A STOP ON YOUR
RECORDS SO THAT RECORDED BOTH SO
WHAT IS A RECORDED WARNING ME.
HOME MINOR SAY IS LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS IT CAN IT'S IN
THEIR DATABASE.
AND THERE ARE OTHER WE HAVE
OTHER TIME.
WE HAVE OTHER TRAFFIC STATUTES
WHICH ALLOW FOR WARNING. AND FOR
BUT YOU'RE NOT CITED YOU DON'T
HAVE SIR YOUR OWN DMV RECORD.
IS NOT IMPACTED BUT THERE'S A
THE LAWN FOR WHICH YOU ARE IN
SOME DATABASE YES AT THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT COULD ACCESS YES HE
WOULD INTO MY DRIVER'S LA.
A SEPARATE TIME CORRECTLY SOME
DATABASE MAINTAINED BY SOME ONE
SOMEWHERE. AS AT ANY POINT THAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE CERTAINLY KNOW
WHAT THE GANG INJUNCTION THAT
LIKE ONCE YOU'RE ON YOU'D NEVER
COME OFF NEVER COME. IN THOSE
EXAMPLES IS IT IT DO I COME OFF
AFTER I I'VE BECOME OF AGE HOW
DOES THAT HAPPEN OR IS IT THERE
INDEFINITELY.
THAT WILL* GOOD QUESTION WE
HAVE TO CHECK THAT'S A GOOD
QUESTION CEASELESSLY I GOT A ONE
OF A TEAM.
I'M NOW TWENTY THREE THAT ENTER
MY LICENSES THAT COME UP AGAIN.
GOOD QUESTION
AND IN IN WHAT COULD THAT MEAN
IN TERMS OF MY INTERACTION WITH
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO LOOK
THAT WOULD HELP TO FALL. SO
THAT'S THE FIRST YOU PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD BE THE
FIRST THE SECOND WOULD BE A FINE
A CITATION WITHOUT FINE.
AND.
IT AS I WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND
CITATION WITHOUT FINE AND
APPOINT.
THAT COULD BE REMOVED WITH.
EDUCATION OR SOME TYPE OF DRUG
AWARENESS EDUCATION THAT THAT
WOULD.
WOULD THEN REMOVE THAT POINT
FROM YOUR DRIVING RECORD AND
WOULD BENEFIT NOT AFFECT YOUR
INSURANCE SO A CITATION WITHOUT
A FINE IS I'M ACTUALLY WRITTEN
THIS TICKET BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE
ANY FINANCIAL BEAR.
AND BUT IT SITS ON MY DRIVER'S
LICENSE RECORDS ON YOUR HIM BE
RECORD SO I CAN GO TO YOUR
INSURANCE.
UNLESS YOU TAKE THE COURSE WE
CANNOT IS THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED
WRECK REMOVED CORRECT ON FUNDS
IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
WARNING AND THE CITATION WITHOUT
RIGHT.
RIGHT AND THEN THE THIRD
INFRACTION WOULD LEAD TO LOSS OF
LICENSE FOUR YEAR RECORD AND
THEN WITH EXEMPT WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR EXEMPTIONS.
EXCEPTIONS WHICH WOULD ORIENT AN
EXEMPTION FROM THAT BOOK SCHOOL
WORK OR. A VIEWER CARING FOR
SOME FAMILY MEMBER HAD SOME
OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU HAD TO DO
YA GET AN EXEMPTION FOR THAT AND
SO WAS THE BILL KEY FISCAL.
IT IS GUESTS BILL IF YOU FISCAL
GAP THAT I'M JUST WONDER WHAT
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT.
THE NOTABLY ROBES.
AND SO IT'S KEY FISCAL BECAUSE
THERE'S COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
BECAUSE IT'S THERE'S.
ARE IMPACTED DEPARTMENT MOTOR
VEHICLES EVEN WHEN EVEN BEFORE
THE AMENDMENTS WERE
KEEP FISCAL BECAUSE IF YOU.
SUSPENDED DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR
A YEAR OR IN AND YOU HAVE THESE
CONDITIONS FOR. A.
A YOU KNOW FIGHT MUST HAVE MY
ACCESS TO A VEHICLE THEN THERE'S
CORRECT SO THAT'S WHY WE KEEP
FISCAL EVEN PRIOR TO AMENDMENTS
OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU AND
THE DOCTOR MORE WOULD YOU LIKE
TO IF THAT'S ALRIGHT YES YOU MAY
RESPOND THANK YOU.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. AND I'D LIKE TO
RESPOND TO THE ACCURACY AND
RELIABILITY THAT BUT YOU ASKED
BAILEY'S THANK YOU AND BACK IN
THE NINETEEN NINETIES IN EUROPE
THEY FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT OR
FLUID DEVICES.
AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
THEY WERE UNRELIABLE AND.
NOT VALID AT ALL IF THAT'S TRUE
LIKE ALL TECHNOLOGY THAT'S
IMPROVED VASTLY OVER THE LAST.
TWENTY TO THIRTY YEARS
ANOTHER AT LEAST TWO OR THREE
DEVICES THAT HAVE BEEN FULLY
EVALUATED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
WITH TOXICOLOGY LABORATORIES.
AND WITH DRIVERS IT ENDED
DRIVING SIMULATORS IN IOWA
DIFFERENT PLACES AND TO SHOW
THAT THEY DID TO WORK THEY ARE
VALID THEY ARE RELIABLE NOW. NOT
EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT YOU THIS
OUT THERE IS SOLID BUT THERE ARE
SOME THAT ARE SO BAD AND WATER
THEY MADE YOU KNOW THEY
MEASURING THE FACT THAT THERE IS
IN MY. SYSTEM OR ARE THEY
MEASURING LEVELS OF IMPAIRMENT
WHAT ARE THEY MATCHING EXACTLY
NOT MEASURING LEVELS OF
IMPENDING
AND YOU CAN'T PUT A NUMBER WITH
IN PAVEMENT THEN WHY DID YOU
REFERENCES APOLOGIES YOU
REFERENCED THE VEHICLE SIMULATOR
WHY WOULD YOU NEED ANY TESTING
IN A VEHICLE SIMULATOR UNLESS
YOU'RE TESTING. FOR IMPAIRMENT
TRYING TO DETERMINE THAT NUMBER.
MAN THAT'S THE RESEARCH THAT
THEY HAVE DONE AT THAT EXACT
THING IF I DOES THESE PEOPLE.
THIS IS HOW THEY DRIVE WHAT'S
THE LEVEL CORRESPONDENT LEVEL.
UNDERSTUDY GOING ON IN SAN DIEGO
OF A SIMILAR TO THAT RIGHT NOW
SO THAT WE WOULD LOVE THAT
NUMBER I WOULD LOOK TO BE A
NUMBER TO SAY. THIS IS
IMPAIRMENT.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU KIND OF
THE FOR BLOOD COUNT DO THAT
BECAUSE LIFE.
ALRIGHT SO THE KNOWLEDGE ESTO
THEN IN TERMS OF ACCURACY OF THE
TEST THE TEST IS DETERMINING
THAT YES HE DID THROUGH HOT
BOXING. INGESTION WHATEVER IT IS
IN MY SYSTEM PRESENCE OF RECENT
USE ABOUT OF THE RECENT INTAKE
OF THAT DRUG IT'S IT'S A RECENT.
HIM CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC THOUGH
BECAUSE THE BILL IN QUESTION IS
ABOUT.
CANNABIS CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC
RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT
GENERIC.
PRESENCE OF A DRUG.
BE SPECIFIC ABOUT CANNABIS IN GO
AHEAD THE ACTIVE AND COMPONENT
OF CANNABIS IS THE HC AS THE
SENATOR SAID. M. THAT IS NOT
GOING TO BE IN YOUR SYSTEM IT IN
YOUR SALIVA FOR LONGER THAN
ABOUT.
PROBABLY TWELVE HOURS AT THE
MOST.
SO WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY YOU
CONTEST FOR THIS FOR WEEKS.
THAT IS TRUE IF YOU TESTING THE
URINE SAMPLE NOT IF YOU'RE
TESTING A SALIVA SAMPLE SO THEY
LEAVE OFF BUT IN PA AND SAY.
I'LL BE POSITIVE FOR WEEKS
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
SO THE WHOLE POINT OF TESTING
FOR THE ACTIVE DRUG IS THAT IT'S
IF.
AND IT'S RECENT THAT YOU TOOK
THAT WHEN IT'S NOT ACTIVE
GOTTMAN YOU CONTEST OF ANYMORE
IN THE SALIVA.
THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN USED IN
THIS APPLICATION.
GO AHEAD AND SO THE BILL IS
STILL ZERO TOLERANCE.
AND AN EXPECTATION THAT IT TEST
POSITIVE FOR HAVING BEEN IN YOUR
SYSTEM FOR NINE HOURS IS THAT
HE'S STILL IN THE BILL.
IT'S A GOOD IS A REALLY GOOD
QUESTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HOW
LONG YOU'D CONTESTED.
IS DEPENDS ON WHAT LEVEL YOU
TEST THAT.
GOT IT THOUGH IF YOU GO LOWER
LOWER LOWER LOWER YOU CONTEST
LONGER LONGER LONGER LONGER.
SO DEPENDING ON WHICH I THINK
THEY WOULD I MEAN USE DIFFERENT
WORDS I WOULD TRACKING YOU.
OFF-AGAIN SUPPOSE YOU HAVE.
TWENTY IN YOUR SYSTEM. AND I
TEST A TWENTY FIVE WILL BE
NEGATIVE.
IF I TEST THE TEN WILL BE
POSITIVE.
THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO DEPENDING ON WHEN I SAID AND
OVER AT THIS LEVEL BY TO HELP ME.
TRACKING THAT.
WHO? DID CAL IT'S THE
CALIBRATION OF THE SALIVA TESTED
APPEARS LEGO SELECT BUT JUST
STICK CHEST FIRST INTO
ESTABLISHED WHAT ONE SECOND
SCENARIO FIRST TO ESTABLISH THE
BILL.
DOES SPECIFY THE SALIVA TESTS.
OKAY SO THE BILL DOES SPECIFY
SALIVA TEST.
NOW ADDITIONALLY IT SPECIFIES A
CERTAIN LEVEL OF TEACH CITY.
AND ARE.
STAFF IN YOUR MIND ME WHAT IS
THE SPECIFIC LEVEL.
NO I DON'T THINK IT THAT A GUY
FINE IS REFERENCES THE NINE
HOURS.
ANY OF IT THAT'S A ZERO THAT AND
POINTED ZERO TOLERANCE THINK THE
PREVIOUS LAST YEAR BILLS THIS
IMPLIES THAT MICHAEL. OKAY OKAY
APOLOGIES
SPECIFIED OLOGY HEALTH AND
TEACH THE OF THAT.
YES THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE.
DIFFERENT IN THE METABOLITES YES
DIFFERENT IN THE URINE TEST FOR
YOU ARE TESTING WHAT'S ACTIVE
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S UNFAIR.
AND IT SHOWS THAT IT'S BEEN
RECENTLY YOU.
AND IT WAS NOT LAST WEEK.
A PERSON.
WHEN I GET THAT NINE HOURS IT
BUT IT'S IN THERE. YEAH.
BOTH THE NINE IS THE TYPE OF ITS
THAT'S THE.
LET RECEIVE SENATOR HILLS AND
FINANCE SENATOR MITCHELL STILL
HAS QUESTIONS BUT I JUST WANTED
FUND
TO SENATOR MITCHELL'S OTHER
QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER DRUGS
IN THIS
STE IN THE ONE OTHER PART OF
THIS.
THIS LEGISLATION AND THIS BILL
WILL ALLOW FOR AN REQUIRE LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO START
ACCUMULATING THAT DATA WHICH
THEY DO NOT HAVE TODAY. OF THE
OTHER TYPES OF OF.
OF DRUGS AND.
NARCOTICS THAT.
OUR.
THE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING AND
BEING STOPPED BEING IMPAIRED
WITH AND THAT'S PART OF THIS
BILL SO WE HAVE THAT DATA IN THE
FUTURE TO KNOW WHETHER WE NEED
TO GO. FURTHER OTHER WORLDS THEY
KNOW FOR.
BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR EVERYBODY.
SENATOR STONE THANK HER SORRY
CINDER BRADFORD DID YOU HAVE
OKAY CENTER STONE FIGURE BACK A
TOXICOLOGIST AGAIN SO.
I I ASSUME THAT.
AB WHEN YOU'RE MEASURING SALIVA
YOU'RE MEASURING THE FREE DELTA
NINETY EIGHT SEE THAT EXIST IN
THE SAME ROOM AT THE TIME.
OKAY AND I ASSUME SAY THAT AGAIN.
WELL YOU.
YOU HAVE YOUR SERUM OF YOUR
BLOOD IS BASICALLY THE LIQUID OF
YOUR BLOOD LESS THE CELLS
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE DRUG THAT'S
BOUND TO RED BLOOD CELLS OR
WHITE BLOOD CELLS AND THEN YOU
HAVE WHAT'S FREE.
SO IT'S A FREAKY AGENCY IN THE
BLOOD THAT CAUSES THE
PSYCHOACTIVE EFFECTS AND WE HAVE
FOUND THAT THAT PARTITIONS WITH
OUR SALIVA. ARE SALIVA COMES
FROM IS THAT WE ARE BLOOD AS
WELL RIGHT.
SO IN THEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HALF LIFE
IS OF DELTA NINETY SIVA TAKES
ABOUT SIX HALF LIFE TO GET RID
OF SOMETHING OUT OF THE BLOOD DO
YOU ARE TALKING A LOT OF MORE
PROFESSIONAL BASIS HERE BUT.
IS THERE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD.
AND PIKO GRAMS FOR MIL. THAT.
IT WILL SHOW QUALITATIVELY.
AND IT THAT IS AT THE NINE
HOURS IS A WITH NINE HOURS WAS
DERIVED FROM. AND YES YOU HAVE
SOME GREAT QUESTIONS IN MINUTES
BUT A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND IT'S
ALSO A. LITTLE BIT MORE
COMPLICATED BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW
T. EXENE BLOOD DISSIPATES VERY
QUICKLY. NOT GONE QUICKLY BELOW
THAT FIVE NANOGRAM LEVEL THAT OF
THE STATES HAVE.
AND SO LIVE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE
SOME OF ITS AND CONTAMINATION OF
THE MOUTH IT DOESN'T ALL GO
THROUGH YOUR SYSTEMS I DON'T
WANT TO GET INTO.
TOO MUCH DETAIL BUT IT'S THAT
HIGH A CONCENTRATION IN THE
SALIVA AND LAST LONGER. YOU CAN
ACTUALLY FIND THAT LONGER THAN
YOU CAN IN THE BLOOD.
AND NOT ALWAYS FROM.
ALWAYS GOING THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM
BUT YOU CAN FIND IT LONGER THAN
OF COURSE THE ARGUMENT IF YOU OF
USING URANUS AT THAT CAN BE.
SEVEN EIGHT HOURS.
AT ARE A REFLECTION OF WHAT
HAPPENED SEVEN EIGHT HOURS AGO
SO LET'S ALIVE IS MUCH MORE
ACCURATE ALBEIT MICHAEL MORE
CONCENTRATED BECAUSE SOMEBODY
MAY BE INGESTING A. REST FOR
THIS APPLICATION FOR DRIVING I'M
NOTHING THIRD EVERYTHING.
FOR THIS YES.
BUT IT PUT MORE THAN NINE HOURS
A QUALITATIVELY IS GOING TO TELL
YOU WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS
BEEN UNDER A LITTLE TELL YOU
THAT THEY TOOK. THE PAGE SAY
WITHIN THAT NINE HOURS. RATHER
NOT THAT IMPAIR I THINK ALL OF
US DON'T. TO THE AUTHOR THANK
YOU SO MUCH CLAREMONT.
WHY?
I THINK BRADFORD WAS ON DECK. IF
USED BEFORE I GO AHEAD.
YEAH I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR AND I WANT TO ALSO
THANK THE.
AUTHOR FOR THIS.
.
BILL IN DISCUSSION I THINK IT'S
NOT A SINGLE PERSON HERE WHO.
DOESN'T WANT SAFE STREETS ONE
SAFE DRIVERS BUT. I REALLY THINK
THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT.
I'M VERY HESITANT TO GO DOWN AT
THIS POINT BECAUSE.
I I THINK.
THE TESTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING
ARE BING MARKETED BY COMPANIES
WHO WANT TO SELL A PRODUCT MORE
SO THAN INDEPENDENT TESTS THAT.
HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO TRULY.
DETERMINE ONE'S LEVEL OF
IMPAIRMENT AND.
I HAVE FRIENDS ALONG FORTUNATE.
AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME FOR YEARS
THEY KNOW THE CANNABIS SMOKERS
BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES DOING
SPEED LIMIT.
THAT ALLIANCE NOT SPEEDING AND
BLOWING THROUGH RED LIGHTS THEY
SAY THEY'RE SOME THE SAFETY'S
DRIVER'S.
AND.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THE FACT THAT.
THOSE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES
TO SOMEONE.
AND CONSUMING CANNABIS DID THEY
TEST FOR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER
THAN CANNABIS THEY TEST FOR
OPIOIDS.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A
GREATER THREAT TO DRIVE RICH
TODAY AND ALCOHOL THEN. ANYONE'S
SMOKING CANNABIS I MEAN.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE UNTIL WE
STARTED TESTING IS BEEN PEOPLE'S
SMOKING CANNABIS AND DRIVING.
FOR PROBABLY FIFTY YEARS AND YOU
DON'T HEAR ON THE NEWS OF
FAMILIES OF FOR BEING KILLED
BECAUSE SOME BY SMOKE TO JOIN
BUT YOU DO HEAR IT FROM. SOMEONE
WHO IS CONSUMED ALCOHOL YOU DO
HEAR FROM DALY BASES OF SOMEONE
WHO'S UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF.
PCP OR MATH AND.
I'M GONNA USE DATA THAT.
WHEN I WAS INNOCENTLY IN OUR
CHURCH IS WHAT THE MEDIUM BOYS
AND MEN OF COLOR AND WE LOOK AT
THE NUMBER OF ARREST OF A
INDIVIDUALS FOR CANNABIS IN THE
CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO WHERE
AFRICAN AMERICANS.
MAKE UP LESS THAN TEN PERCENT.
THEY MADE HOW MUCH.
PERSON SIX PERCENT I STILL
LISTEN TO TWO SIX PERCENT.
THEY MADE UP SIXTY PERCENT. OF
THE CITATIONS FOR MARIJUANA.
AND I FIND THAT VERY HARD TO
BELIEVE THAT NO CAUCASIAN FOLKS.
OR YOU WERE USING MARIJUANA SAN
FRANCISCO SO.
I JUST THINK THIS IS A
APPROVED SLOW.
I GET THE TARGET PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE
INTENTIONS SENATOR DEAL I KNOW
THAT. ME. AND WITHOUT A DOUBT.
BUT I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE GO
IF LA WE PERMIT A.
THIS MEASURES MOVE FORWARD.
BUT SO IS SENATOR OVER.
OR YOU WANNA RESPOND ONE THING
WELL BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY
BECAUSE I MADE A MISSTATEMENT
THE. TEST IS NOT SPECIFIC TO
SALIVA ON PAGE SIX OF THE BILL.
.
EH PAGE SIX OF THE BILL SEE
NUMBER FOUR. IT INDICATES WHAT
IT SPECIFIC IT SAYS WHEN THE
PERSON UNDER TWENTY ONE OF YEARS
OF AGE HAD ANY DETECTABLE
QUANTITY OF DELTA NINE T. H. C.
IN HIS OR HER BODY.
AS MEASURED OR INDICATED BY A
PRELIMINARY MARIJUANA SCREENING
TEST OR OTHER CHEMICAL TEST.
SO.
A APOLOGIES FOR MY MISSTATEMENT.
.
IT'S.
THERE COULD BE OTHER TESTS.
BY VIRTUE OF THAT.
ALRIGHT TERM SENATOR ANDERSON.
ADAM.
I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER THE HOT
BOXING AND I GET THAT.
.
IF A PERSON WERE TO GO TO A
CONCERT.
HOW?
HOW MUCH HAS TO BE IN THE AIR
AND HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO BE
EXPOSED TO IT?
BEFORE YOU WOULD TEST POSITIVELY.
AGAIN A GREAT QUESTION AND I'VE
ACTUALLY DONE SOME STUDIES ON
THIS AND MYSELF ON PASSIVE
EXPOSURE BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT POINT.
AND MY BOSS WOULDN'T LET ME O
TO HOLLAND TO DO IT'S I HAD TO
GET SOME PEOPLE. TO DO IT BEFORE
IT BECAME LEGAL HERE.
AND BUT REALLY AND. NOT EVERY
SCENARIO CAN BE TESTED
IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
BUT ALL ALL THE STUDIES THEY ALL
HAVE IN COMMON THAT IF YOU TEST
PEOPLE.
BUT OUR IN AND ENCLOSED
ENVIRONMENT. AND THEY FEEL THE
EFFECTS THEY KNOW THAT EXPOSED
THEN YES YOU TO CONTEST POSITIVE
ON THESE DEVICES AND POSSIBLY
OTHER DEVICES ALSO.
BUT IF THERE'S VENTILATION LIKE
AN OUTDOOR CONCERT LIKE YOU
MENTIONED AND ANY KIND OF
VENTILATION YOU DON'T REACH THE
TEST LEVELS THAT A STANDARD
LEVELS BUT YOU COULD IF YOU'RE
IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE MANY
SMALL CLUBS.
HAVE YOU WHERE THERE IS NOT GOOD
VENTILATION NOT SAYING YOU NEVER
EVER WORKED OUT STANDARD TEST
LEVEL STANDARD LABELS AGAIN WE
GET BACK TO THIS DETECTIVE
MOMENT.
AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD.
NOW.
ENDS ON THE DOWN THE DIRECTION
YOU'RE.
WHEN YOU SAY TEST POSITIVE ARE
YOU THINKING IN TERMS OF TEST
POSITIVE.
FOR IMPAIRING YOUR DRIVING OR
TEST POSITIVE ZERO.
TOLERANCE ZERO TOLERANCE
OKAY SO YOU COULD STILL
POTENTIALLY DRIVE.
IN NOT BE IMPAIRED BUT YOU'RE
GONNA TEST POSITIVE AGAIN I
CAN'T SAY THAT
I CAN SYSTEM ONES NOT IMPAIRED.
BEEN GOING OVER THERE ISN'T
THERE AND THERE MIGHT BE A
WINDOW WHERE A PERSON COULD BE
POSITIVE. BUT NOT IMPAIRED.
JUST IN CASE.
AND IT'S WELL GUESS SUMMING
CHURCH.
CIVIL.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY THE
PROBLEM BUT WHAT LEVEL IS THAT
AND NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER WHAT
LEVEL IS IMPAIRMENT.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NO
IMPEDIMENT.
SO IS IT'S.
AND OF COURSE THIS BILL IS NOT
DEALING WITH IMPAIRMENT WE
ALREADY HAVE STATUTES THAT DEAL
WITH IMPAIRMENT THIS BILL AS
PURELY DEALING WITH THE QUOTE
UNQUOTE ZERO TOLERANCE.
ARUM.
I'M MY OWN TIME YES AND I LIKE
THE IDEA I LIKE THE BILL.
I JUST HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH ZERO
TOLERANCE
BECAUSE.
I NEVER SMOKED MARIJUANA.
BUT I WANT TO A REGGAE CONCERT
ONES.
OKAY.
AND.
I THINK WAS AN OPEN AIR.
EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OVER
AND IT WAS OPEN AIR.
AND I WAS I THINK THOUGH THAT
WHINY AND I WASN'T DRINKING
BOOZE BUT MY EYES WERE DILATED.
SO. WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS
CAPTURING YOUNG PEOPLE?
WHO ARE TRYING TO BE ON THE
STRAIGHT NARROW?
AND BECAUSE OF THEIR
HAPPENSTANCE.
THEY THEY GET CAUGHT ISN'T
LIKELIHOODS NOT MANY. BUT I
WOULDN'T WANT TO.
THAT YOUNG PERSON TO LOSE SOME
POTENTIAL FUTURE.
OPPORTUNITY AND SCHOLARSHIP OR
ANYTHING ELSE AND HAVING THE
LIFE NEGATIVELY IMPACT.
BECAUSE THEY LIKE BOB MARLEY AND
I JUST.
A WILL AND THOSE I LITERALLY A
STRAIGHT CUT THROUGH A LITTLE
GALA WHAT THEY WOULD TELL YOU MY
WILLIE NELSON STORY AND.
ONE SECOND THROUGH ABOUT ONE
MOMENT ONE MOMENT WE GET ORDER
AGAIN. YOU YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND
TO IS GONNA YES DIFFERENCE TO
YOUR OTHER AND WHAT YOU READ ON
THE PAGE THAT OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT I CAN SPEAK TO
THOSE. BUT OR FLUID DEVICES HAVE
SET LEVELS AND YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO TEST POSITIVE OUT THOSE THAT
LEVELS EVEN THOUGH THE BILL MAY
SAY. ANY DETECTABLE IT DOESN'T
YOU NOT GOING TO DETECT
TINY TINY AMOUNTS BECAUSE YOU
HAVE CUT OFF LEVELS.
SO THAT'S NOT IT WAS NOT GOING
TO HAPPEN THAT YOU WENT TO SOME
CONCERT CERTAINLY OF.
TWO WEEKS AGO.
IS THIS IN YOUR NOTHING TEST FOR
THAT IT COULD BE FOR A NIGHT OF
THE THINK BECAUSE ECONOMIST
THOUGHT LOW THE ORPHALI AGAIN I
DON'T NO BAD. BREATH SO WITH
THAT BUT AS YOU STATED
PREVIOUSLY COULD BE THE NIGHT OF.
THE NIGHT OF YET ANOTHER WORDS
YOU JUST STATED THAT IF I WERE
IN A SMALL CLUB.
YES YEAH. AND DOES THEN AND I
DID NOT INGEST MYSELF OR SMOKER
WHATEVER.
AND YET.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE
AROUND ME WERE SO I MEAN I AM IN
THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING
EQUIVALENT TO A HOT BOX.
AND THEN I DRIVE.
I COULD BE SO OFTEN USE A TEST
LIKE THIS I MAY NOT BE IMPAIRED
MAYBE MAYBE NOT I DON'T KNOW
WHAT YOU WOULD BEEN EXPOSED TO
IT YES BUT. USE YOU WOULD KNOW
YES BUT IT'S.
IF THE TEST WOULD DOES THE BILL.
WOULD I.
IS NOT INTENDED TO APPLY TO
ANYONE WHO UNLESS THEY'RE USING
IT.
SO IT SOME OTHER WORDS I DO
MUSIC BUT THE TEST WOULD
DETERMINE TEACH SEE LEVELS ON ME.
IT WOULD IF YOU WERE IN A HOT
BOX SITUADO NOT IF YOU WERE
SOMETHING I JUST DESCRIBED IN
CITY IS YOUR TAX COLLEGES JUST
AGREED WITH HOT.
RICHIE WELL INDICATING BY ME UP
BOOKS IN THE HOT BUT WHAT WHICH
INDICATE YES IN THE HOT BOX BUT
NOT IN A CONCERT IF YOU WERE IN
THE CONCERT DO YOU ALSO MENTION
THAT BELIEVE. UNTIL AFTER THAT
YOU WOULD FEEL IT YOU WOULD KNOW
IT WILL DEFINITELY ALL SUBJECTS
SAID THEY KNEW IT WHEN YOU KNOW
YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE.
BECAUSE ALL AND MOST OF THEM YOU
KNOW FAILED GOT IT BUTTON I LIKE
TO GET TO ANSWER THEM SENATOR
ANDERSON SCOTT COMMENT ABOUT.
HAVING THIS ON NOT GETTING A
SCHOLARSHIP ALL THIS WOULD BE IS
A WARNING.
THAT AND THEN THE NEXT DEFENSE
NEXT VIOLATION.
WOULD BE A CITATION THAT THEN
COULD BE REMOVED IF YOU GO IF
YOU TAKE A CLASS.
TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID.
TRIALS AND THE PROBLEMS IN
CONDITIONS ARE IF YOU ARE AROUND
THE HC AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE IS
THE THIRD TIME THEN YOU GET YOUR
LICENSE BUT AT NO TIME DOES ANY
OF THIS AFFECT YOUR TWELVE
DOLLARS SHIP RIDGE CATION. WE
DON'T WE'VE ALREADY ASCERTAINED
AND AND I WILL ADMIT THAT.
WHILE WE DID DISCUSS THESE
AMENDMENTS I DID NOT
DO THE HOMEWORK NOR DID I ASK
STAFF.
CHECK HOW THAT FIRST WARNING IS
REMOVED IS OFF SO THERE ARE SOME
QUESTIONS THERE ARE LEGITIMATE
QUESTIONS.
AND.
.
BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENT SENATOR
ANDERSON YOU DO HAVE ANOTHER
QUESTION OR COMMENT.
OKAY.
I.
SHARED WITH THE AUTHOR.
VERY SIMILAR CONCERNS HIS HAND
RAISED ABOUT.
THAT WHILE I COMPLETELY
APPRECIATE THAT WE DO NOT WANT
IMPAIR DRIVING AND WE DO NOT
WANT TO INCREASE.
THE RISK TO ANYONE DUE TO IMPAIR
DRIVING.
I ALSO NOTED THAT THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
IN TRAFFIC BOTH ACCIDENTS AND
FATALITIES
ON THE AGE GROUP OF TO SIXTEEN.
TO TWENTY ONE IS DISTRACTED
DRIVING NOW IT'S NOT YET.
NEXT THE LEVEL YET OF ALCOHOL.
DRIVING IN TERMS THE NUMBERS BUT
IT IS RISING FAR FASTER DEATHS
AND ACCIDENTS DUE TO. IMPAIRMENT
FROM.
SUBSTANCES IS GOING DOWN STONE
GOOD BUT IT'S GOING DOWN.
STRAPPED TO DRIVING IS GOING UP
IN YET FOR DISTRACTED DRIVING WE
DO NOT HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE
POLICY.
NOR DO EAT WE RIGHT NOW HALF THE
WE ONLY JUST ADDED. TO PUT A
POINT ON IT AND THAT'S NOT EVEN
THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SITE
CYCLE YET.
.
SO BUT ON BUT IF I RETURN TO
WHAT THE CONCERN WAS MY CONCERN
WAS ONE IS ARE WE REALLY GOING
AFTER THE THING THAT IS PUTTING
MORE OF US AT RISK IN TERMS OF.
TRAFFIC
A INCIDENTS BUT SECONDARILY.
THAT.
WHILE.
I WANT US TO ACT IN A WAY THAT
HELPS TO ENSURE PEOPLE'S SAFETY.
I HALF IN ANYTIME I.
AND VOTING FOR SUPPORTING POLICY
LOOK AT THE APPLICATION OF THAT
POLICY AND I HAD MY STAFF PULL
UP THE DATA.
WE TOOK WE TOOK MANY MANY CITIES
ACROSS THE STATE THAT WE HAD
DATA FOR.
AND OF COURSE THEM UNFORTUNATELY
ERRORS FORTUNATELY ARE
UNFORTUNATELY MY CITIES IN MY
DISTRICT.
DID HAVE GOOD DATA.
AND ALL OF THEM.
OAKLAND RICHMOND BERKELEY. ALL
SHOWED.
THAT
THERE.
STOPPAGE RATE FOR BLACK AND
BROWN PEOPLE.
LIKE.
FINANCIALLY X. SEATED THERE
TRAFFIC STOP RATE FOR.
BY POPULATION.
SO.
WHO M. WE KNOW WITH BY OTHER
DATA? THAT BLACK AND BROWN
PEOPLE USE DRUGS NED NO HIGHER
AMOUNT.
THEN. CAUCASIANS THAN WHITE
PEOPLE.
SO WHILE OUR INTEREST IS TO TO
PROTECT THE SAFETY AND LIMIT THE
CAR ACCIDENTS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
THE APPLICATION OF POLICY.
WHICH IS WHY. I.
THE AUTHOR AND I TALKED ABOUT.
TRYING TO.
MAKE THIS BILL A LITTLE MORE
BENIGN AND MORE EDUCATIONAL
BECAUSE I DID ACCEPT THAT. THERE
IS AN UNFORTUNATE PERCEPTION.
THAT.
AMONG SOME PEOPLE THAT.
IN MARIJUANA THAT YOU IF YOU'RE
HIGH ON MARIJUANA YOUR NUYS
IMPURITIES IF YOU'RE DRUNK.
AND WE KNOW THAT'S INACCURATE IN
SO IN THE EFFORT TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THAT AND HOPEFULLY THAT
A WARNING IN SUCH.
BUT I SO THAT'S WHY WE
CONSTRUCTED IT TO BE A WARNING
FIRST.
AND A POINT SECOND WITHOUT.
COST AND THEN THIRDLY
POTENTIALLY A. TIME.
A LICENSE SUSPENSION
NOW I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE
ISSUE OF HOW THAT WARNING PART
GETS OFF A RECORD. AND I WOULD
WANT TO MAKE SURE STAFF AYE I
WILL ASK THEM TO CHECK ON THAT.
BUT.
I I THINK THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM
THE DEBATE THE KINDS OF CONCERNS
THAT WHILE I THINK THERE'S BEEN.
EXPRESSED A LOT OF RESPECT FOR.
THE GOAL THE CONCERN IS THE
APPLICATION.
AND YOU KNOW THE POTENTIAL.
SPIRIT HE IN TERMS OF OUTCOME
AND AND ALSO. THE TESTING.
YOU KNOW WORK WERE STILL.
WE WANT TO GET BETTER TESTING
FOUR TEACH SEA LEVELS BOTH FOR
IMPAIRMENT IN JEST USE IN
GENERAL WE NEED.
BUT WE KNOW THAT THE CHP IS.
.
THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME
THERE IS SOME RESEARCH NOW THAT
WERE WAITING OUTCOMES FOR SO
ANYWAY.
I'VE SAID ENOUGH.
WE DID.
WORK OUT THESE AMENDMENTS IT IS
UP TO THE COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY.
.
A SENATOR HILL.
YOU MAY CLOSE YOU CAN. THERE'S
MOTION THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS FOR THE CONVERSATION IN
THE DISCUSSION ARE RIGHTFULLY
APPRECIATE I DID.
ONE RESPONSE TO SENATOR
BRADFORD COMMENT JUST RELATED TO.
THOSE.
AND THE COMBINATION OF OF OF.
ANY PERIOD SERVE INTOXICANTS OR
DRUGS THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE.
AND.
MISTER GOREY SON WHO WAS KILLED
TO JUSTIN WHO WAS KILLED BY THE.
YOUNG GENTLEMAN WAS.
.
JUST HAD.
HE'D SEE IN HIS BODY AND WE DO
KNOW THAT HE WAS TESTED FOR
OTHER SUBSTANCES I WHICH IS
GOING BY SO.
I CAN GIVE US A BRIEF
EXPLANATION ON HOW THE PROCESS
WORKS WHEN WHEN LET'S SAY AT AN
OFFICE PULL SOMEBODY OVER. AND
THEY HAVE SOME REASON TO BELIEVE
THERE'S SOME TYPE OF IMPAIRMENT.
WE HAVE A SERIES OF FIELD
SOBRIETY TEST.
A SERIES OF SYMPTOMS THAT WE CAN
ARE ITEM SO SHE CALLED THE DR
REID DRUG RECOGNITION EVALUATION.
EVERY DRUG HAS DIFFERENT TYPES
SYMPTOMS.
MARIJUANA FOR INSTANCE
BALLOTS PUPIL
IF YOU BRING A PENCIL IN TWO
PERSONS KNOWS IT WILL BE A POINT
TIME WHEN WHEN WHEN THE GUYS ARE
COMING OUT IN. ONE I WILL POP
BACK OUT SPECIFIC TO MARIJUANA.
SO.
MANY DRUGS HAVE VERY SPECIFIC.
SYMPTOMS TO THAT SPECIFIC DRUG.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE MY SON
THE INDIVIDUAL KILL MY SON HE
WENT THROUGH SUCH A DEVALUATION
ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM.
ARM AND A DETERMINED BASED ON
THAT DRUG RECOGNITION
RECOGNITION EVALUATOR THAT THE
ONLY SYMPTOMS THAT THAT
INDIVIDUAL POSSESSED PERCENT
TERMS CONSISTENT WITH MARIJUANA
USE.
HAD HE.
ALSO DONE METHAMPHETAMINE HEROIN
COCAINE WHATEVER WAS.
IT WOULD HAD DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS
AND THEY WOULD HAVE TESTED FOR
THOSE SPECIFIC DRUGS.
SINCE HE ONLY SYMPTOMS THAT THIS
PERSON HAD PROCESS WHAT SYMPTOMS
CONSISTENT WITH MARIJUANA USE. A
ONLY TESTED FOR THE MARIJUANA
THEY MAY HAVE TESTED FOR OTHERS
I DON'T I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR
CERTAIN ACTIONS HAVE THAT BUT I
KNOW MARIJUANA WAS THE ONLY ONE
THAT THAT IDENTIFIED. THE
SYMPTOMS WERE CONSISTENT WITH
MARIJUANA USE.
AND ENDS UP AS A MANAGER MEMBERS
THE.
THE ISSUES RAISED OF OF AND I
THINK AN IMPORTANT ONE OF THOSE
OF COLOR WHO ARE STOPPED AND.
TARGETED BASICALLY I THINK WE
CAN RECOGNIZE THAT AND SHE THAT
BUT I JUST WANTED TO.
.
TO JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE OF
POINTS IN IN THIS THESE NUMBERS
THAT I PUT TOGETHER IN THIS WAS
AFTER MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE.
A SENATOR MITCHELL AND IN TWENTY
THIRTEEN THREE LIEUTENANT LATINO
DRIVERS UNDER TWENTY ONE DIED
WITH DELTA NINETEEN EACH IN
THEIR SYSTEM THREE.
IN TWENTY FIFTEEN THAT NUMBER
INCREASED TO THIRTEEN.
IN TWENTY THIRTEEN NO WHITE
DRIVERS UNDER TWENTY ONE DIED
WITH BUILT IN NINETEEN EACH SEE
IN THEIR SYSTEM.
IN TWENTY FIFTEEN THAT NUMBER
INCREASED TO EIGHT.
AND IN TWENTY THIRTEEN NO BLACK
DRIVERS UNDER TWENTY ONE DIED
WITH DELTA NINETEEN EACH SEE IN
THEIR SYSTEM THAT WAS IN TWENTY
THIRTEEN AD TWENTY FIFTEEN. OF
ONE LIKE DRIVER WHO DIED.
ENSURE THAT THAT YOU SHOWS THAT
THAT NUMBER IS THERE AND AS I
LOOK AT IT.
AN OFFICER WILL STOP.
A BLACK DRIVER.
WILL NOT KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE.
PAIRED WILL NOT KNOW OR AND MADE
IT PERHAPS WILL NOT HAVE ANY
REASONABLE BECAUSE AS WE'VE
TALKED.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DO IS PROTECT THAT AFRICAN
AMERICAN DRIVER THAT LATINO
DRIVER IN ALL OF THEMIF THEY
HAVE A. THIS GIVES THEM THE
OPPORTUNITY.
TO EITHER BE WARNED SAY THERE'S
SOMETHING WRONG I MAY NEED TO
CHANGE MY BEHAVIOR. ON A SECOND
OFFENSE WE KNOW THEN THEY WILL
HAVE SOME EDUCATION I WOULD HOPE
THAT THEN WILL. SHOW THEM THAT
THERE IS A A PATH HERE THAT
COULD BE VERY DESTRUCTIVE TO
THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES SOMEONE.
BEFORE THAT MEMBERS I I'M I'M
ASKING FOR YOUR ARRIVAL.
APPRECIATED.
SENATE MITCHELL.
YOU THOUGHT I KNOW THAT THE THE
AUTHOR DISCLOSED BY THE
DISCONNECTS EXPLAINED THAT THE
ACTION ON THE TAKE TODAY. I'M
GONNA LAY OFF TODAY.
BECAUSE FOR ME THEIR STILL SO
MANY UNKNOWNS I I AM VERY
INTERESTED IN THE ANSWER BASED
ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT
WE DON'T HAVE IN PRINT. ABOUT
WHAT WILL HAPPEN ALL AND IN THE
FIRST INSTANCE.
BUT I THINK YOU KNOW THE ISSUE
FOR ME IS NOT HAVING A
UNIVERSALLY AGREED UPON NUMBER
ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES
IMPAIRMENT WE ALL WANT SAFE
ROADS I WANT. THAT THEM FOR ME
MY SON YOU EVERYONE WE WANT SAFE
ROADS BUT BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED
AT US CASTING SUCH A BROAD NET.
THAT WE CAPTURE PEOPLE WHO BOMB
SHOULDN'T BE CAUGHT UP IN YET
ANOTHER POLICE ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS I'M GONNA LAY OFF TODAY
THE CURE DOUBLE REFERRER.
THEY'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
BECAUSE I WANT DO WANT TO SEE
THE.
OUTCOME OF SOME OF THE FURTHER
RESEARCH.
ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
ALL BE LAID OFF TODAY SO I CAN
CONTINUE TO. IT IN.
MADAM CHAIR FREE FOOD WINDOWS
WHICH ONE SECOND I APPRECIATE
SENATOR MITCHELL AT. SO MUCH FOR
MANY MANY OF MANY FRONTS.
BUT IN IN THIS CASE THE THE
ISSUE OF.
OF.
YOUR THIS OPENS A DOOR ON MANY
FRONTS WITH THE ISSUE OF
IMPAIRMENT.
OR ZERO TOLERANCE WITH ALCOHOL
TODAY WE HAVE A SET NUMBER AS WE
KNOW.
BUT THIS BILL AND THE ZERO
TOLERANCE ALCOHOL BILL DOESN'T.
IS IS NOT INTERESTED IN THAT
IMPAIRMENT NUMBER ALL IT SAYS IS
THAT YOU ARE UNDER TWENTY ONE
YOU SHOULD NOT BE. INVITING IN
ANY ALCOHOL IN IF YOU ARE THAT'S
THE SLOPE WE WANT TO KEEP YOU
FROM GOING DOWN AND THAT'S THE
SAME AS THIS BILL THAT APPLY TO
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR NEGATIVE
IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION.
OKAY.
AND THE BILL'S BEEN MOVED AS
AMENDED WILL AND DO A ROLL CALL.
SKINNER.
I.
SKINNER AYE ANDERSON.
BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL.
STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER WIENER AYE.
BILLS ON CALL EGGMAN PURE THANK
YOU IT WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION
TODAY FORTUNATE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
ALRIGHT WE'LL NOW GO TO.
.
NO SENATOR WIENER IT'S YOUR TURN.
YES YOU MAY.
.
S. B. NINE TWENTY THREE WILL BE
THE FIRST ONE.
RIGHT NOW THEY WANT ME TO GO TO
COMMITTEE.
YEAH.
.
SENATOR.
NO NO NO FAIR HEY. MARY.
YEAH CHEN APPEAR OVER.
I THEY CALLED YOU OKAY YOU GO.
YEAH.
I DO TOO THAT.
YEAH.
YOU'RE WELCOME.
WHO FILM ALL THE STAY IN THE
ROOM OUT?
DO THEY LEAVE THEIR MARK.
OKAY CENTER WIENER YOU MAY
PROCEED.
I'VE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
COLLEAGUES I SP NINE TWENTY
THREE AYE. THAT'S IN PLACE LONG
OVERDUE STANDARDS OF FOR
EYEWITNESS IDENTIFICATION.
PROCEDURES IN CALIFORNIA I WITH
A SINGLE GOAL IN MIND.
AND THAT IS TO PREVENT OTHER
PEOPLE FROM BEING WRONGFULLY
CONVICTED ARE BASED ON ERRONEOUS
EYEWITNESS IDENTIFICATION AYE WE
WANT TO USE THE BEST PRACTICES.
TO TRIED TO ENSURE THAT
EYEWITNESS IDENTIFICATION IS
ACTUALLY HELPING IDENTIFY THOSE
WHO COMMITTED CRIMES ARE SO THAT
INNOCENT PEOPLE DON'T GO TO JAIL.
ON WALL GUILTY PEOPLE REMAIN AYE
AT LARGE ON THE STREET
COMMITTING FURTHER CRIMES. ARE.
ALMOST NOTHING WE DO AS A STATE
GOVERNMENT.
ARE HAS THE POWER TO NEGATIVELY
IMPACT AN INDIVIDUAL A FAMILY IN
THEIR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. ON THEM
WHEN WE WRONGFULLY CONVICT
SOMEONE AND PUT AN INNOCENT
PERSON IN PRISON.
ARE. IT IS AN INJUSTICE AND
UNDERMINES PUBLIC SAFETY AS THE
GUILTY REMAIN PRETTY.
IN CALIFORNIA EYEWITNESS MISSIN
MISIDENTIFICATION ARE HAS
CONTRIBUTED A TWO SIXTY SIX
KNOWN WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS.
I INCLUDING TWELVE OUT OF THE
LAST THIRTEEN DNA BASED
EXONERATIONS.
I BE ACTUAL CULPRITS IN THOSE
AYE. DNA EXONERATION CASES WENT
ON TO BE CONVICTED OF NINE
ADDITIONAL VIOLENT CRIMES THAT
COMMITTED AFTERWARDS.
I INCLUDING SIX MURDERS INTO
RATES BECAUSE WE PUT THE WRONG
PEOPLE IN PRISON.
ARE BASED ON MISTAKEN EYEWITNESS
IDENTIFICATION.
WHICH IS A LEADING CONTRIBUTOR
TO THESE WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS.
I IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES WE NEED OUGHT TO
IMPLEMENT VIDENCE BASED
PROCEDURES FOR EYEWITNESS
IDENTIFICATION TO IMPROVE THE
RELIABILITY.
VALID EYEWITNESS IDENTIFICATION.
THESE EVIDENCE BASED BEST
PRACTICE PRODUCT BEST PRACTICES
HAVE BEEN ENDORSED BY THE
NATIONAL ECONOMY.
OF THE SCIENCES BY THE U. S.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
BY THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION
BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION
OF POLICE CHIEFS.
I AM TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT WERE
RECOMMENDED BY OUR OWN
CALIFORNIA COMMISSION ON THE
FAIR ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
AYE WHICH INCLUDED AS A MEMBER
THEN ATTORNEY GENERAL. I JERRY
BROWN.
ARE THERE IS CURRENTLY NO
STATEWIDE STANDARD REQUIRING LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO USE BEST
PRACTICES OFF FOR EYEWITNESS
IDENTIFICATION PROCEDURES.
I'VE THESE PROCEDURES BARRY
COUNTY TO COUNTY.
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR EXAMPLE
IN SAN FRANCISCO I ALAMEDA
COUNTY CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AND
SANTA CLARA COUNTY. OTHER USE
SOME OR ALL OF THE BEST
PRACTICES ON MOST COUNTIES DO
NOT.
I NATIONALLY NINETEEN STATES
HAVE ADOPTED A STATE
REQUIREMENTS.
SIMILAR TO WERE OVERLAPPING
WITH OVER POSING TODAY.
INCLUDING GEORGIA I NEBRASKA
NORTH CAROLINA OHIO TEXAS AND
WEST VIRGINIA AND I WILL SAY
THIS I KNOW ON. I'VE THE NUMBER
OF TIMES WHEN.
WE SEE THAT CALIFORNIA IS
LAGGING A VERY CONSERVATIVE
REPUBLICAN STATES ON CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM I IS.
SHOCKING.
BY.
WE CAN ALWAYS PLAY CATCH UP TO
A MORE CONSERVATIVE.
NEIGHBORS
I S. B. NINE TWENTY THREE SETS
OUT MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF FOR
LAW ENFORCEMENT EYEWITNESS
IDENTIFICATION PROCEDURES AMONG.
IV KEY OUR REFORMS OFF FIRST ARE
REQUIRING.
UP LINES ARE BLINDED
ADMINISTRATION OF EYEWITNESS
IDENTIFICATION PROCEDURES TO
PREVENT SUGGESTED US ARE BLIND
MEANING THAT THE THE PERSON
ADMINISTERING THE PHOTO LINEUP
DOES NOT KNOW. WHO THE SUSPECT
IS SO THAT HE OR SHE CAN I
INADVERTENTLY THROUGH BODY
LANGUAGE OR OTHERWISE SUGGEST?
HOOTIE I SUSPECT THERE'S AND
BLINDED.
MEANING THAT I THERE'S.
SHUFFLE AND SO THAT THE
OPPOSITE ADMINISTERING THE I
WOULD S. A LINE UP.
THOUGH THE PHOTO LINE IT
DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
LOOKING AT. IN WHAT ORDER.
ON.
I THE BLIND THE TECHNIQUE I'VE
FOR DEPARTMENTS THAT MAYBE ARE
GOING TO STRUGGLE.
WITH A BLIND ADMINISTRATION
BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE IS AN
ALTERNATIVE THAT IS LESS LABOR
INTENSIVE. I SECOND ON BEFORE
ANY EYEWITNESS ALAINA PROCEDURE
I V. WITNESS SHOULD BE
INSTRUCTED THAT THE PERPETRATOR
MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN THE LINEUP
SO NO SUGGESTION THAT YOU NEED
TO PICK SOMEONE.
THIRD THE PROPER USE OF FILLERS
ON WINE FOR NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO
ARE NOT SUSPECTS WITH THEIR
PHOTOS ARE IN THE LINEUP. AYE WE
WANNA MAKE SURE I BET THOSE
WITNESSES. BE A SIMILAR
DESCRIPTION TO THE SUSPECT
BECAUSE IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE
PERSON WHO MEETS A DISRUPTION.
IN THE FIVE PEOPLE LOOK VERY
DIFFERENT THAT SONYA CLEAR
SIGNAL TO.
SUPPOSED TO.
UP PICK.
AND DIE AS YOU HAVE.
THE PHOTO LINE UP HERE.
.
I THAT WHENEVER WITNESSES WHOSE
WRONGFULLY CONVICTED AND SPENT
YEARS IN PRISON AYE HIS PHOTO
LINE UP WHERE THE OTHER
WITNESSES REALLY.
ALL OVERWHELMINGLY DON'T LOOK
ANYTHING ALIKE CAM.
.
I FOURTH I IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING
THE LINE OF PROCEDURE THE
EYEWITNESS SAID PER.
BE ASKED TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT
IN HIS OR HER OWN WORDS.
ARTICULATING THEIR LEVEL OF
CONFIDENCE
AND IDENTIFICATION
SO THEY CAN SAY RIGHT VAN I'M
EXTREMELY CONFIDENT OR I REALLY
HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE KNOW
THAT OVER TIME. ONCE SOMEONE
MAKES AN IDENTIFICATION AVE WILL
BECOME MORE AND MORE CONFIDENT
AYE IN THE IDENTIFICATION THAT'S
A STELLAR HUMAN MIND TENDS TO
WORK AND SO IF WE HAVE THEM ON
THE RECORD AT THE BEGINNING
INDICATING THEIR CONFIDENCE
LEVEL. THAT CAN MITIGATE ABOUT
POSSIBILITY IF THEY'RE NOT VERY
CONFIDENT AND FINALLY I
REQUIRING THAT THE ENTIRE
IDENTIFICATION PROCEDURE. BE
VIDEOTAPED WE ARE MOVING UP
TOWARDS MORE VIDEOTAPING AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT CLEAN BODY CAMERAS
I'VE AND IT JUST MAKES SENSE IN
TERMS OF FAIR PROCESS. FAIR
TRIAL OUGHT TO HAVE ON.
VIDEOTAPING RECORDING.
TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE
I HELD THE LINE UP WAS CONDUCTED.
ON THIS IS A PRO PUBLIC SAFETY I
MEASURE COLLEAGUES AND I ASK FOR
YOUR AYE BOW. AYE WITH ME TODAY
I HAVE TWO WITNESSES TO MY LEFT
IS.
URIAH COURTNEY WHO IS THE DNA
EXONERATED. HE WAS WRONGFULLY
CONVICTED THROUGH INCORRECT
EYEWITNESS IDENTIFICATION.
HE SPENT NINE YEARS IN STATE
PRISON ARE BEFORE HE WAS.
EXONERATED THROUGH IDEA NIGHT
ON AND I ALSO MELISSA DAVE
O'CONNELL WHO IS STAFF ATTORNEY
AT THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
INNOCENCE PROJECT. AT SANTA
CLARA UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL OF
LAW ON AND.
I'D THINK YOU I'M MELISSA YOU
MAY BEGIN FIRST AYE FIRST.
WITNESS IN SUPPORT MEN YOU MAY
FOLLOW AND I'M GONNA GIVE MY AND
GAVEL TO SENATOR BRADFORD
PERCEPTIVE PERCENT ANOTHER
COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HARM AS AN
INNOCENCE ORGANIZATION WE
BELIEVE THAT IF YOU'RE FOR
RIGHTFUL CONVICTIONS THEN YOU'RE
AGAINST WRONGFUL ONES AND SB
NINE TWENTY THREE SERVES BOTH OF
THESE SIDES OF JUSTICE.
IN TWO THOUSAND AND FOURTEEN THE
NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES.
REVIEW THIRTY YEARS OF RESEARCH
BEHIND EYEWITNESS IDENTIFICATION
PRACTICES AND WHAT SINCE BEFORE
YOU TODAY IN THE FORM OF S. B.
NINE TWENTY THREE ARE THERE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY FOUND
WERE SUPPORTED. BY EXPERTS IN
COGNITIVE BIAS
MEMORY VISUAL PERCEPTION AND
SOCIAL SCIENCE.
AND THE REASON THAT THIS
RESEARCH HAPPENED FOR THE LAST
THREE DECADES IS BECAUSE THE
SENATOR WIENER MENTIONED.
I WITNESS MISIDENTIFICATION IS A
LEADING CAUSE OF WRONGFUL
CONVICTION IT ACCOUNTS FOR
SEVENTY PERCENT OF THE WRONGFUL
CONVICTIONS. PROVEN BY DNA
EVIDENCE NATIONWIDE AND NINETY
TWO PERCENT OF THE DNA
EXONERATIONS IN OUR STATE.
BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT S. B.
DOESN'T JUST SERVE TO PROTECT
INNOCENT LIVES FROM THE
INJUSTICE OF A MISIDENTIFICATION.
IT ACTUALLY SERVES TO PROTECT
VALID IDENTIFICATIONS THAT ARE
DISCREDITED OR DISCARDED BY A
JURY OR JUDGE BECAUSE LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS NOT IMPLEMENTED
THE SCIENTIFICALLY SUPPORTED.
BEST PRACTICES.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO BENEFITS
FROM A WRONGFUL CONVICTION IS
THE TRUE PERPETRATOR AND THE
SAME CAN BE SAID. WHEN THE IT'S
BELIEVED TO BE A RIGHT FOR
PROSECUTION AND THE JURY ACQUITS.
BUT SB NINE TWENTY THREE SETS
FORTH SAFEGUARDS
TO REDUCE THE RISK OF A WRONGFUL
IDENTIFICATION. AND SEE THE
INCREASE THE RIGHT AT THE
RELIABILITY OF A RIGHTFUL ONE.
AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT
OVER TO SOMEONE WHO WILL PROVIDE
A FAR MORE PROFOUND PERSPECTIVE
ON HOW DAMAGING AND EYEWITNESS
MISIDENTIFICATION CAN BE AND
THAT IS MR URIAH COURTNEY.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY A FOR
ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY
SPEAKER TODAY.
ON IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF
FEBRUARY EIGHTH TWO THOUSAND
FIVE.
MY FIANCE AND I WERE.
STARTLED AWAKE OF FROM THE
BEDROOM DOOR CRASHING OPEN.
AND LOUD SHOUTS
FLASHLIGHTS AND GUNS POINTED AT
HER FACE.
HOUSE YANKED OUT OF BED.
HANDCUFFS WERE REPLACE SOME IRIS.
AND I WAS ESCORTED DOWN THE
HALLWAY.
WHERE?
?
ANOTHER A BOND FORCING OFFICER
HAD MY.
CRYING TWO YEAR OLD SON IN HIS
HANDS.
AND AS I WAS ESCORTED DOWN THE
HALLWAY PASS MY SON AND I LOOKED
OVER AT HIM AND HE REACHED OUT
HIS ARMS TO ME. AND.
AND I SAID DON'T WORRY SON. THAT
HE'LL BE HOME SOON.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT WHAT
HAPPENED.
.
THE SHORT TIME AFTERWARDS I WAS
CALLED INTO A COURT HEARING. AND.
.
THE CHARGES WERE AT OFF I WAS
BEING ACCUSED OF KIDNAPPING RAPE
AND ROBBERY.
AND.
YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE OF MY SHOCK
AND MY HORROR.
ADD ADD LEARNING OF WHAT I WAS
ACTUALLY BEING.
ACCUSED OF LET ALONE BEING
CHARGED WITH.
I WAS COMPLETELY BAFFLED I HAD
NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON AND
KNEW NOTHING. OF THIS CASE.
I DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIME SO I
DIDN'T KNOW I DIDN'T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND I WAS REALLY JUST
AND A STATE OF SHOCK AS I WAS
ESCORTED BACK TO MY CELL I
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING
AND IT WAS JUST LIKE THE WORLD
WAS CLOSING IN AROUND ME.
I MEAN EVERYTHING WAS LITERALLY
GONE BLACK IN MY MIND.
ALMOST.
ALMOST TWO YEARS AFTER MY ARREST.
I FELT MYSELF GOING THROUGH A
TRIAL THAT LASTED NEARLY TWO
WEEKS.
AND UP UNTIL THAT TIME.
BECAUSE I WAS INNOCENT.
I TRULY BELIEVED THAT.
SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO PAY ME A
VISIT.
IT DIDN'T MATTER BUT SOMEBODY
WAS GONNA COME AND TELL ME THAT
THEY HAVE THE WRONG PERSON. THAT
THEY MADE A MISTAKE.
THAT'S SOMETHING VERY BAD HAPPEN
BUT I'M NOT THE ONE THAT
COMMITTED THE CRIME.
BUT INSTEAD I WENT THROUGH THIS
TRIAL.
WORD DAY IN AND DAY OUT HOUSE
BEING CALLED A RAPE THIS.
A PREDATOR AN ANIMAL.
AND I HAD TO SIT THERE SILENTLY.
AND TAKE ALL OF THIS AND.
AND MY MOTHER SAT THERE BEHIND
ME EACH DAY.
HEARTBROKEN AND SOBBING.
AND AT THE END OF MY TRIAL I WAS
CONVICTED AND SENTENCED TO LIFE
IN PRISON.
AS IF THE DAY OF MY ARREST
WASN'T BAD ENOUGH BUT.
BEEN SENTENCE
TO LIFE IN PRISON FOR A CRIME HE
DID NOT COMMIT.
IS RELATED.
BEYOND WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW
UTTERLY DEVASTATING. IT ACTUALLY
WAS.
AND WHEN I GOT THE PRISON HAVE
AS IF THINGS.
WEREN'T BAD ENOUGH I LEARNED
THAT I WAS TOLD THAT I WOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO HOLD MY SON.
UNTIL HE WAS EIGHTEEN.
BECAUSE IN CALIFORNIA.
YOU CANNOT HAVE VISITATION WITH
MINORS IF YOU'VE BEEN.
CONVICTED OF SEXUAL OFFENSE.
MY CASE IS A.
CLASSIC CASE OF MISTAKEN
IDENTITY.
AND THANK GOD.
THAT THE EVIDENCE WAS PRESERVED
IN MY CASE SELECT COME HERE.
AND TELL MY STORY TODAY.
BUT IT I A CLASSIC CASE OF
MISTAKEN IDENTITY I BEAR NO
GRUDGE AGAINST THE VICTIM SHOES
TRULY MISTAKEN AND HER.
IDENTIFICATION OF ME.
AS HER ATTACKER.
BUT SHE WAS WRONG. AND.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET IT WRONG
AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED. BILLS
LIKE THE ONE THAT WE'RE HERE FOR
TODAY.
TO HELP.
TO TRY TO HELP PREVENT CASES
LIKE MINE.
THANK YOU.
PRE TESTIMONY I ANY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
IF YOU.
ONLINE HERE THANK YOU.
KATHY SHARON BEHALF OF THE ACLU
OF CALIFORNIA WE ARE PROUD TO CO
SPONSOR S. B. NINE TWENTY THREE.
GOOD AFTERNOON ALEX SIMPSON
ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR CALIFORNIA
SINCE PROJECT IN YOUR AYE
COURTNEY'S MY CLIENT WE ARE
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF S. B. NINE
TWENTY THREE THANK.
BRITNEY SUNDAY FOR FROM LEGAL
SERVICES ARE PRISONERS OF
CHILDREN IN SUPPORT.
YOU.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
BECAUSE FEET FORM IF YOU HAVE
SEEK A PRODUCER OKAY.
JUDGE CARE MEMBERS JOHN THE
FILMING CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION.
.
SPECWEB POSITION WITH EVEN MORE
RESPECT TO THE WITNESSES TODAY.
A OUR OPPOSITION IS PRIMARILY
FOR SOME PRACTICAL CONCERNS WE
HAVE WITH IMPLEMENTING THE BILL
IT'S NOT A PHILOSOPHICAL
OPPOSITION TO SETTING A STANDARD
ENSURING THAT THESE
IDENTIFICATIONS ARE DONE IN
ACCORDANCE WITH.
AT THE SOME KIND OF MEASURED.
APPROACH THAT ENSURES ACCURACY.
IDENTIFICATIONS AND.
I'M CONFIDENT WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR EMPIRE BILLS AND HIS
STAFF THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK
THESE OUT AND A AS BILL
CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD.
THINKING.
THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT IN NOT BEING ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES OPPOSITION KERRY ARE
BRINGING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
ANY QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
SENATOR ANDERSON
AND MOST WELL THANK YOU BULLET
BILL HAS BEEN MOVED. I JUST WANT
TO. THANK THE AUTHOR FOR AGAIN A
COMMONSENSE MEASURE AS A PERSON
OF COLOR I.
UNDERSTAND AND I KNOW HUNDREDS
OF STORES OF INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE
BEEN. FALSELY ACCUSED ARE DOING
TIME.
EVEN FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN PUT TO
DEATH FOR.
WRONGLY IDENTIFIED FOR CRIMES SO
I THINK THIS IS A COMMONSENSE
MEASURE AND I. THE PORCHES
SUBORDINATE AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
ON.
ASSUMING WE TO A CLOSE
OUR. COLLEAGUE I THANK YOU FOR
THE.
FOR THE SUPPORT ON THE BILL.
YOU KNOW I KNOW FOR US ARM YOU
KNOW THIS IS.
WERE WERE DOING OUR JOB AND
PASSING A LAW AND.
IT'S REALLY.
.
YOU KNOW HONESTLY I THINK I'M
ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING THINGS
AND POKE SERVICES WHEN YOU CAN
DO THINGS THAT ACTUALLY. ON
IMPACT REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE
ONLY OF SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN
REMOVING THEIR FAMILY FOR NINE
YEARS CAN EVEN HOLD THEIR CHILD
FOR NINE YEARS. ON IT REMINDS
YOU ABOUT WHAT THIS IS REALLY A
BALLOT IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE AND
MAKING PEOPLE'S LIVES BETTER AND
SO. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE.
THANK YOU HAMANN SECRETARY OUT
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
ANDERSON IT'S DO PASSED.
TO APPROPRIATIONS SEMANTIC
CARRIED PLEASE KALRA.
IN THEIR.
ANDERSON
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD BY.
JACKSON
MITCHELL DOWN.
WIENER AYE.
OR I.
WE'LL KEEP THAT. ITEM OPENS SONG
CALLED THANK YOU.
ARE WE LOOKING FOR INITIAL.
YEAH ZONE OKAY.
WELL WE'RE HAVING S. B. NINE
NINETY NOW OKAY GREAT WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY
.
OKAY I'VE THANK YOU I COLLEAGUES.
ITEM S. B. NINE NINE THE A WILL
ENSURE THAT I GUY TRANSGENDER
INDIVIDUALS. WHO WERE AND ARE
EITHER STATE PRISON OR IN COUNTY
JAIL I WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO
AFFIRM THEIR GENDER IDENTITY OF
THEIR PREFERRED FIRST NAME?
GENDER PRONOUN HONORIFIC I AM
REQUIRED THAT THEY BE USED BY
FACILITIES STAFF.
S. B. NINE NINE THE ALSO
REQUIRES.
BANG CARCERI DID I INDIVIDUALS
ARE WHO ARE PLACED OUR FOR MORE
THAN FIVE DAYS AYE IN A SETTING
OTHER THAN GENERAL POPULATION
PARTICULARLY SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT. I'D DO TO BE A
PERSON AT RISK OF SEXUAL
VICTIMIZATION OR OTHER FORMS OF
ASSAULT OR HARASSMENT.
HAVE ACCESS EQUAL ACCESS TO
PROGRAMMING AND WORK
OPPORTUNITIES HAS PROVIDED TO
THE GENERAL PRISON POPULATION.
.
CURRENTLY TRANSGENDER
INDIVIDUALS DO NOT HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO AFFIRM THEIR
GENDER IDENTITY.
PREFERRED FIRST NAME GENDER
PRONOUNS HONORIFIC WHEN ENTERING
A FACILITY THERE'S NO
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
CURRENT LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE
AYE ON FACILITIES STAFF TO EVEN
ATTEMPTS
I'VE TO.
ADDRESS INDIVIDUALS ARE BY
THEIR CORRECT A. BY GENDER
IDENTITY THE PRONOUNS NAMES AND
SO FORTH OTHERS TO MEANS THE IN
THING THAT IN A RACE AS THE
AUTHENTIC IDENTITY. OF THESE ARE
TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS.
IN ADDITION I LGBT PEOPLE AND
PARTICULARLY.
A TRANS WOMEN.
OUR.
TYPICALLY AT MUCH GREATER RISK
OF SEXUAL VICTIMIZATION AND
OTHER FORMS OF ASSAULT AND
HARASSMENT WHILE IN CUSTODY.
AS A RESULT ON THEY FREQUENTLY
ARE PLACED IN SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT OR OTHERWISE OUTSIDE
THE GENERAL POPULATION. NOT
BECAUSE THEY VIOLATED ANY RULES
OR.
DONE ANYTHING WRONG BUT FOR
THEIR OWN PROTECTION ODD BECAUSE
FOR EXAMPLE A TRANS WOMAN MAY BE
CLASSIFIED OF BY THE.
PRISON.
AS A MAN AND HEALTH WITH MEN
AYE AND THEN BE DEEMED YOUR RISK
OF VICTIMIZATION.
THEREFORE WE ARE MOVING IN FOR
THE GENERAL POPULATION I'M
PLACING YOU IN SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT. ONCE THAT HAPPENS
OF FOR THE INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUAL AYE THEY LOSE ACCESS.
TO WORK PROGRAMS EDUCATION
PROGRAMS RELIGIOUS PROGRAMMING
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE OUGHT
NOT BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE
ANYTHING WRONG. OF THAT BECAUSE.
THEY'RE BEING REMOVED.
FOR THEIR OWN ON BECAUSE OUR
RISK OF VICTIMIZATION AYE SO THE
BILL IN ADDITION.
REQUIRES THAT IF THAT HAPPENS
ON THEN THE INDIVIDUAL MUST BE
GIVEN EQUAL ACCESS OUGHT TO THE
PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITIES THAT
OTHER PRISONERS I HAVE. ON SO
COLLEAGUES THIS IS A ON I THINK
FRANKLY A COMMON SENSE.
A BILL THAT WILL ALLOW YOU WE
WANT OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OUR.
PRISONER DEL SYSTEM ARM TO BE
ABLE TO.
CON EL.
REHABILITATED WITH.
ACCESS TO EDUCATION ALL THE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT PEOPLE SHOULD
HAVE.
AND THIS WILL ALLOW THAT. TO
HAPPEN.
WE OF COURSE HAVE A LARGER
PROBLEM OF.
OF VIOLENCE AND AND SEXUAL
ASSAULT IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM AND
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO
ELIMINATE.
BOB BUT I UNTIL WE GET THERE WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
WHO ARE AT RISK OF VICTIMIZATION
ARE TREATED.
HUMANELY AND FAIRLY AND EQUALLY
WITH DIGNITY.
AND SO I ASK YOUR I'D GO OUT
WITH ME.
TODAY ARE.
AMANDA GOAD OF THE ACLU AND
WOOD SERVE AND A TGI JUSTICE
PROJECT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF
COMMITTEE.
I'M AMANDA GOAD AN ATTORNEY WITH
THE ACLU CALIFORNIA IT SO HE WAS
PROUD TO CO SPONSOR S. B. NINE
NINETY AS A STEP TOWARD EQUAL
RIGHTS AND DIGNITY FOR
INCARCERATED LGBTQ PEOPLE. WHO
ARE TOO OFTEN TONIGHT
PROGRAMMING AND REHABILITATIVE
OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE
PLACED IN SEGREGATED HOUSING
SETTINGS FOR THEIR OWN
PROTECTION?
CURRENTLY MANY COUNTY JAILS
STEER LGBTQ INDIVIDUALS AND
OTHERS PERCEIVED AS VULNERABLE
TO SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND
HARASSMENT TOWARD SEPARATIST
SENSIBLY FAVOR HOUSING UNITS.
THE DC ARE YOU THE SIMILAR
PRACTICES.
UNFORTUNATELY WE RECEIVE A
STEADY STREAM OF COMPLAINTS FROM
PEOPLE IN THE SEGREGATED HOUSING
SETTINGS. WHO ARE BEING DENIED
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING DRUG AND
ALCOHOL REHABILITATION FOR
OCCASIONAL TRAINING AND PAID
WORK OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE SUCH
PROGRAMS ARE NOT OFFERED IN THE
SEGREGATED SETTING?
LACK OF ACCESS TO SUCH
ACTIVITIES NOT ONLY MAKES THE
PUNISHMENT FEEL HARSHER BUT
IMPAIRS PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO RE
ENTER THE COMMUNITY SUCCESSFULLY
AND CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT
LIGIBILITY FOR PAROLE AND FOR
CREDITS TOWARD EARLY RELEASE.
WE AT THE A SO YOU BELIEVE THAT
FAILURE TO PROVIDE EQUAL
PROGRAMMING FOR PEOPLE PLACED IN
SPECIAL HOUSING UNITS. AS A
RESULT OF THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION GENDER IDENTITY OR
GENDER EXPRESSION OFTEN VIOLATES
THE NONDISCRIMINATION
PROTECTIONS IN THE GOVERNMENT
CODE AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL AND
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTIONS.
NONETHELESS GIVEN THE PREVALENCE
OF THIS PROBLEM WE NEED
CLARIFYING LEGISLATION TO MAKE
EXPLICIT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
COUNTY JAIL AND STATE PRISON
OFFICIALS TO PROVIDE A FULL
RANGE OF PROGRAMMING TO PEOPLE
DEEMED VULNERABLE.
FINALLY THIS BILL WILL ALSO
ENSURE THAT TRANSGENDER
INDIVIDUALS ENTERING CUSTODY
WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PROVIDE THE CORRECT NAME PRONOUN.
ENSURE CURSOR OFFICIALS ADDRESS
THEM ACCORDINGLY.
THIS RESPONSE TO ANOTHER
WIDESPREAD CONCERN AMONG
INCARCERATED TRANSGENDER PEOPLE
THAT CHRONIC STAFF MISTER UNDER
IN CAUSES THEM TREMENDOUS
UNECESSARY STRESS AND
CONTRIBUTES TO PEER HARASSMENT.
THE NEW REQUIREMENT WOULD FOSTER
DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR ALL
INCARCERATED TRANSGENDER PEOPLE
INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET
BEEN ABLE TO SEEK A COURT ORDER
NAMING GENDER CHANGE PURSUANT TO
LAST YEAR'S S. B. THREE TEN.
WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT SB NINE
NINETY AS A STEP TOWARD EQUAL
DIGNITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
FOR INCARCERATED PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION
OR GENDER IDENTITY.
THAT'S WHAT THIS.
THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS WITH IRVINE
AND I'M THE POLICY DIRECTOR AT
TRANSGENDERED IN THE VEIN OF SEX
JUSTICE PROJECT. AND I'M HERE TO.
VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR S. B. NINE
NINETY.
IN MY POSITION THAT TJ JUSTICE
PROJECT I CORRESPOND AND WORK
CLOSELY WITH KERN.
PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
SPECIFICALLY IN CALIFORNIA.
IN CALIFORNIA. ARM ASTHMA
MENTIONED.
PEOPLE ARE HOUSE IN PRISONS AND
JAILS BASED ON THEIR GENITALIA
MEANING THAT TRANSGENDER WOMEN
FOR EXAMPLE OUR HOUSE AND THAT'S
DISABILITIES AND USUALLY PLACED
IN ADMINISTRATIVE SEGREGATION
FOR THEIR OWN PROTECTION.
OUR ORGANIZATION SEIZE OUR
TRANSGENDER MEMBERS BE MORE
TARGETED FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT
AND VIOLENCE.
ACCORDING TO A STUDY BY VALERIE
GYMNASTS AND.
TWENTY ELEVEN TRANSGENDER WOMEN
IN JENIN NOT CONFORMING PEOPLE
IN MEN'S FACILITIES WITHIN CDC
ARE ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE
THERE FOURTEEN TIMES MORE AT
RISK FOR EXPERIENCING SEXUAL
ASSAULT. THAN THE GENERAL
POPULATION AND THEREFORE OFTEN
FIND THEMSELVES PLACE
ADMINISTRATIVE SEGREGATION OR
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT BECAUSE OF
RISK OF HARM.
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THEIR
PLACEMENT WITHIN RESTRICTED
HOUSING TRENDS IN THE PEOPLE
HAVE.
HAVE ALMOST NO ACCESS TO
PROGRAMMING AND JOB
OPPORTUNITIES LOGS INCARCERATED
PROGRAM AND IT IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT AND VERY BENEFICIAL
SOCIALLY. ENCOURAGING SKILL
DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS ALLOWING
THEM TO EARN CREDITS TOWARDS
RELEASE.
I S. B. THIRTY NINE NINETY WILL
ALLOW MY COMMUNITY ACCESS TO
THESE BENEFITS GIVING THEM A
CHANCE TO OBTAIN MUCH NEEDED
RELIEF AND REHABILITATION SKILLS.
WITH THE PASSAGE OF SB NINE
NINETY WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO
STOP TRANSGENDER PEOPLE FROM
BEING EE PENALIZE SIMPLY BECAUSE
OF THEIR RISK OF INCURRING HARM
INSIDE OF PRISONS IN JAIL.
IN ADDITION SB NINE NINETY
ALTERS THE PENAL CODE TO MANDATE
THE TRANSGENDER PEOPLE BE
REFERRED TO BY THE NAME OF JOHN
THE PRONOUN THAT THEY USE
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT
THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE T GET THEM
CHANGED. LEGALLY.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE
EXTEND OURSELVES SO THAT CHANGE
IN A PEOPLE HAVE THE DIGNITY OF
BEING REFERRED TO AS WHO THEY
ARE WHILE INCARCERATED. FOR
THESE REASONS I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
SUPPORT S. B. NINE NINETY THANK
YOU SO.
IF YOU WOULD THIS ISN'T SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS JOHN MICHAEL FOR
EQUALITY CALIFORNIA AND WE'RE
PROUD TO BE A CO SPONSOR OF THIS
BILL I'M OBVIOUSLY IN STRONG
SUPPORT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE
THE CO SPONSORSHIP AND SUPPORT
OF LAMBDA LEGAL. WHO WERE NOT
ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY AND THE
SUPPORT OF TRANSGENDER LAW
CENTER THANK YOU?
BERNIE STONECIPHER FROM LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS OF
CHILDREN IN STRONG SUPPORT.
KELLY LANDS WHERE ALSO FROM THE
TGA JUSTICE PROJECT IN SUPPORT.
I WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
IF THERE ARE ANY.
COME TO THE TABLE.
SEEING NONE.
A.
MEMBERSHIP ANY DISCUSSION.
IN BOTH WE HAVE A MOTION.
SENATOR WIENER YOU CAN CLOSE
WITH THE ASKING US FOR SUPPORT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR LIVE.
ALRIGHT THEN WE WILL HAVE A ROLL
CALL THE MOTION IS TO PASSED TO
JUDICIARY.
SKINNER AYE. AYE ANDERSON.
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD. BRADFORD
AYE JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE.
WIENER AYE WIENER AYE.
I WILL KEEP IT OPEN FOR SENATOR
JACKSON THEY BELIEVE CENTER
WINNERS THAT YOUR LAST BILL.
OKAY.
YES YOU DO.
AND THEN YOUR OWN COMMITTEE.
ALRIGHT SO MY THE FINAL BILL.
ALRIGHT WE'LL JUST.
OUR SENATOR ANDERSON.
YEAH OPAL. QUE.
RIGHT
VIDAK
.
THERE SKINNER WOULD YOU GO AHEAD
NOW PRESENT SP ELEVEN ZERO FIVE
ONLY SO MUCH SENATOR ANDERSON.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THE
LEGISLATURE IN ITS WISDOM HAS
ALREADY RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE
WHO ARE INCARCERATED IN STATE
PRISON.
THAT I THEY COULD HAVE.
HAD A.
TICKET A PARKING VIOLATION OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT
INCURRED.
BEFORE THEY WERE INCARCERATED.
AND.
WHEN THEY ARE RELEASED
OBVIOUSLY ASWE'VE HEARD IN
COMMITTEE EARLIER TODAY ABOUT
HOW MUCH THIS
FEES AND FINES CAN GO UP.
BUT SO WE BASICALLY THAT
LEGISLATURE UP PUT IN STATUTE
THAT ANY.
ANY EXISTING A.
A NINE DO YOU WHY NINE SERIOUS
HIGH TICKET THAT YOU HAD.
THAT A. A CUMULATED FEES AND
SUCH WHILE YOU WERE INCARCERATED
WOULD BE.
INFECT DISMISSED AND YOU WOULD
NOT BE ABLE TO LOSE YOUR LICENSE
TO DO THAT.
NOW WHAT WE DIDN'T DO IS MAKE
THAT ALSO APT GLOBAL TO THOSE
WHO ARE SERVING IN COUNTY JAIL.
SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF S. B.
ELEVEN A FIVE TO IN EFFECT MERE
THE STATUTE THAT WE HAVE FOR
THOSE WHO ARE INCARCERATED STATE
PRISON. FOR THOSE WHO ARE.
NOW INCARCERATED IN AYE COUNTY
JAL AND I HAVE SOME WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. AND I WILL ALLOW
THEM WOULD YOU LIKE OKAY FAKE
LIKE START GRIT SHIRLEY SAID.
NORTH BRITAIN
NO AMOUNT.
I LIKE INTRODUCED HER TO GO
AHEAD OKAY I'M GOOD AFTERNOON OF
LOOPS BACK AND SENATE COMMITTEE.
OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS NOT A GOOD DINO ON
WITH THE LEGAL SERVICES.
I JOIN A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF
SENATE BILL ELEVEN OH FIVE FORTY
YEARS MY ORGANIZATION HAS FAR TO
IMPROVE OUTCOMES PERFORM THEIR
COURSE RATED PEOPLE.
STOP THE CYCLE OF POVERTY THE AS
SHE DOES OR PRISON OFTEN CAUSES.
STUDIES HAVE SHOWNTHAT EVEN WON
A RACE RATE EASING ONE ARREST
REDUCES EMPLOYMENT PROSPECTS
MORE THAN ANY OTHER EMPLOYMENT
RELATED CARE RISTIC.
EVEN ONE OR TWO DAYS IN JAIL CAN
CAUSE A PERSON TO LOSE THEIR JOB
OR THEIR HOME IT CAN TO
STABILIZE AND IT'S HIGHER
HOUSEHOLD SIMILARLY. PEOPLE
CITIES TO PROBATION OR WORK
ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS OFTEN MUST
COMPLY WITH STRICT IN TIME IT'S
IT'S OF.
BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO
AVOID BEING THROWN IN JAIL
MYSELF PERSONALLY HAVE
EXPERIENCED THIS.
I WILL STOP ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
A RICH MAN AT LEAVING MY JOB A
U. P. S..
I HAD GOT IT TO GIVE FOUR SEE
BILL INFRACTION.
AND THAT I HAD A CORD DAY LATER
IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR THAT
TIME.
A MONTH LATER I WAS ARRESTED
FOR UNRELATED PURPOSES.
AND I WAS DETAINED.
MY BILL IS A REALLY EXTREMELY
HIGH AT THE TIME AND I WAS
FIGHTING TO COME UP WITH THE
MONEY FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND I
HAVE.
EXACTLY ABOUT IT WE CAN HAVE TO
GET THE BILL I BAILED OUT UPON
BEING UNVEILED ARE WERE
UNDERSTOOD THAT UP I MISSED THE
COURT TODAY. AM AND THEY ALSO
RECEIVE EMAIL LETTER SAYING THAT
I OWED FOR INJURY SEVENTY TWO
DOLLARS.
TO THE COUNTY CUTS BECAUSE THE
COUNTY TO PAY FOR THIS.
.
THIS A FRACTION.
ON I AM MYSELF AM WAS A I HAD TO
PAY FOR THE FOR THE BILL WHICH
WAS EXTENSIONAL MORE DIFFICULT
FOR ME. I'M WORKING AT UPS ONLY
MAKING NINE NINE NINE EIGHTY
FIVE AN HOUR.
IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO MAKE IT
FORTUNATELY FOR MY SITUATION
UNLIKE MANY OTHERS OUT MY JOB
WAS A UNION JOB. THOUGHT WAS
LIKELY ABLE TO KEEP MY JOB ON
BUT THE BEFORE BEING ABLE TO.
PAY FOR THE TICKET I WASN'T ABLE
TO.
THUS LOSING MY MY LICENSE.
FOR ME IN MANY OF THE PEOPLE
WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY.
MOST MOST RECENTLY INCARCERATED
PEOPLE CANNOT ARE FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO KNOW ME UNFORTUNATE TO
FIND A JOB NOW LIKELY TO HAVE
THEIR WAGES AGGRESSIVELY
GARNISHED. WHICH CAN THAT COULD
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO THE.
SEEK INCOME FROM THE FORMAL AND
ECONOMY AND RISK THEIR CAREER
CAR SERRATION IF I REITERATE
PERSON'S DRIVER LICENSE
SUSPENDED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
MAKE IT TO COURT TO RESOLVE
THEIR TRAFFIC TAKE TO. THEIR
LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING ARE
KEEPING A JOB DRAMATICALLY
DECREASES IF THIS RECENTLY
RELEASED PEOPLE NEED TO CONTINUE
DRIVE AND.
AND OTHER CASES AND LIKE MINDS.
THEIR LIVES OF THEIR BE ERASED
OF CONVICTED AND GRABBING HIM TO
MISS THE METER BEING THROWN BACK
IN JAIL. S. B. ELEVEN OH FIVE
WILL PROVIDE CRITICAL NEED A
RELIEF FOR THIS POPULATION THIS
BILL IS ALREADY A BILL BUT WAY
EXTEND PEOPLE WHO ARE CAR SERRATED FOR
THE CONVICTION OF A FAMILY. YET
DENIES IT TO PEOPLE WITH LESS
SERIOUS SAID THIS IS LIKE A
MYSELF IN THIS SITUATION.
FORCING REENTERING PEOPLE WHO
ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DON'T MAKE
THEM MUCH ARE READY.
FOR I AM AFFORDABLE TRAFFIC
COURT TEASE DE FEES DOESN'T
SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY ARE
JUSTICE THIS IS WHY I
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE
YES ON SENATE BILL ELEVEN NO
FIVE. THANK YOU.
SHERMAN.
EDITORS MINUTES NICK GREATER
AUTISM.
S. OFFICE.
TODAY THAT.
BILL.
SHERIFF HANNAH.
GEORGE YES.
BILL.
YOU KNOW THIS BILL EX
IF YOU COULD FORTY ONE FIVE
HUNDRED CAUGHT.
COVER LOW LEVEL
ANDERS.
CURRENTLY SECTION FORTY ONE FIVE
HUNDRED ONLY GRANT'S RELIEF TO
THOSE WHO COMMIT
SERIOUS CRIMES.
STATE PRISON COMMITMENTS.
THIS IS COUNTERINTUITIVE WHEN
OUR PURPOSE IS TO HELP LOW LEVEL
OFFENDERS RETURNED THE COMMUNITY
AND NT RE OFFEND OR END UP
COMMITTEE MORE SERIOUS CRIMES.
AND THE UP PRISON OR WORSE.
THE NUMBER ONE CONDITION OF ANY
PROBATIONARY SENTENCES TO OBEY
ALL LOS FOLLOWED BY BECOMING
GAINFULLY EMPLOYED AND HOPEFULLY
BECOMING LAW BINDING PRODUCTIVE
MEMBERS SIDE.
THE FACT IS THESE PEOPLE DRIVE
WHERE THEY HAVE A LICENSE OR NOT
IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSE
THEY WANT INSURANCE WHICH IS NOT
GOOD FOR ANY.
WHAT OF THIS I ASK I ASK YOU
WHAT IS ONE SKILL WE ALL HAVE IN
COMMON IN THIS ROOM? I'M DRIVING
IS THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR
SKILL.
AND THEY'RE VERY FEW JOBS A DO
NOT REQUIRE A VALID LICENSE TO
GET IN THE DOOR THIS INCLUDE
UNION JOBS CONSTRUCTION DELIVERY
PIZZA AND MOST. ENTRY LEVEL
POSITION.
IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT
INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY IMAGE.
AND REDUCING RECIDIVISM.
DECREASING AMOUNT OF MONEY WE
SPEND ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE WE
NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
HELP THE PEOPLE LEAVING OUR
JAILS ANDERSON AND THE
OPPOSITION TO THIS WILL SAY IT'S
ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND KEEPING
HABITUAL OFFENDERS OFF THE ROADS.
JUST BECAUSE A LICENSE SUSPENDED
DOES NOT MEAN A PERSON WON'T
DRIVE IN DRIVE UNINSURED.
AS RECOUNTED THOUGH THE ARGUMENT
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE EVERY PERSON
THAT DEALS WITH RELIEF AT THIS
BILL ARE SPENT TIME IN JAIL
SUFFERED A CRIMINAL CONVICTION.
OR SUFFERED FROM A CONVICTION
THAT SOME POINT WE MUST LEND A
HELPING HAND UNDERSTAND THAT
KICKING THESE PEOPLE WHEN
THEY'RE DOWN MAKING THEM PAY
FINES AND FEES THEY CAN'T AFFORD
DOES NOTHING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY
AND EVERYTHING TO INCREASE THEIR
CHANCES OF ENDING UP BACK IN
JAIL AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THE BILL IS GOOD POLICY AND
WHERE THE YEARS.
THANK YOU.
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
KATHY SURE FOR THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
RAINY SUNDAY FOR AND SUPPORT.
DO WE HAVE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE
MEMBERS.
THANK YOU IN QUESTIONS I I HAVE
A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS
HOW LIKE THE CONCEPT I
UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE.
WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS?
YOU KNOW IF IF A PERSON GETS.
TOO FAR BEHIND.
NO WILL THEY BE ASKING FOR A
FLASH
CURSORY XIN.
THEY CAN WALK COMING.
IS THERE A SCENARIO THAT WE'RE
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE SAYING
LOOK.
PUT ME EN COUNTY LOCKUP FOR A
FLASHING QUESTION EIGHT SO I CAN
GET AWAY FROM. THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS WORTH OF FINES.
AND IF YOU DON'T I'M GONNA PUNCH
SOMEBODY TO EARN MY WAY BACK AND.
I DON'T WANT TO INCENTIVIZE BAD
BEHAVIOR AND I'M WORRIED. THAT I
GET THE GOAL IS TO FRESH START.
BUT I DON'T YOU KNOW.
THE CORNER OF THIS IS THE SAME
ISSUE I HAD EARLIER TODAY.
WE HAVE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL
FEES AND IT ON DEFINES.
THEY'LL TAKE.
I AM HUNDRED DOLLAR.
FIND INTERNET INTO EIGHT HUNDRED
DOLLARS.
SO.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ANDERSON
COUPLE THOUGHTS ONE.
THERE WAS THERE WERE ADVOCATES.
WHO SUPPORT THIS BILL WHO
WANTED IT TO BE FOR REGARDLESS
OF THE AMOUNT OF?
BEING HELD LET'S SEE YOU WERE
ONLY HELD FOR THREE HOURS.
BUT WE PUT A MINIMUM NUMBER OF
DAYS
BECAUSE WE WANT WE THOUGHT THAT
WAS REASONABLE.
AND DOES IT SO YOU MUST BE HELD
FOR A MINIMUM OF SEVEN DAYS.
ADDITIONALLY WHILE I HAD NOT
ANTICIPATED.
WHEN I CARRIED THIS BILL THAT
SENATOR MCGUIRE WOULD BE
CARRYING THE BILL HE DID WE NOW.
IF THAT BILL SUCCESSFUL WE NOW
HAVE A VARIETY OF.
OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
FACING.
HIGHER AND FEES AND FINES
BECAUSE IT IT THEY WEREN'T
INITIALLY ABLE TO PAY OR THEY
FORGOT TO. SO WE'VE NOW IF THAT
SUCCEEDS WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS SO
IT'S.
IT I CERTAINLY CAN APPRECIATE
THEIR WINNER WOULD BE
POTENTIALLY SOMEONE WHO WOULD.
YEAH I WOULD SAY A DOOFUS ENOUGH.
TO DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO
SPEND SEVEN DAYS TO AVOID BUT I
THINK WOULD BE PRETTY RARE
BECAUSE THAT SEVEN DAYS IN A
COUNTY FACILITY WOULD IMPACT A
LOT OF OTHER THINGS ADDITIONALLY.
SO WE DID BUILD IN SOME OF
PROTECTIONS BUT I'LL ALLOW THAT.
LAWYER FOR THE SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT OR SF SHERIFF JUST.
IT IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION
SENATOR I BELIEVE YOU SAID.
SOMEONE ON GETTING A FLASHING
CAR SERRATION WHICH MEANS THERE
ARE SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY
RELEASE
PROBATION OR PAROLE I THINK
FORTY ONE FIVE HUNDRED HAS A
PROVISION THAT NOW. IT SAYS
TICKETS.
TICKETS THAT YOU YOU GET WHILE
YOU'RE ON PROBATION OR PAROLE
DON'T COUNT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PERSON
WOULD COVER I GET WE'RE GOING NO
AND I WOULD SAY THERE YOU KNOW
THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOMEBODY
WHO'S GONNA TRY TO GAME THE
SYSTEM.
THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S THOUSANDS
OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
REALLY DO NEED TO HELP AND JUST
WHAT THE HELPING HAND. I MYSELF
I MEAN I JUST TURNED FIFTY NINE
BACK IN MY TWENTIES I HAD ABOUT
THIRTEEN UNPAID TICKETS.
DRINKING IN AND OUT OF JAIL
MYSELF. WHEN I'VE FINALLY
SOBERED UP HAD A KID I RODE
LETTERED EVERY SINGLE COURT
BECAUSE I.
HAD THE EDUCATION BILL TO DO
THAT.
AND HADN'T HAD THEM ALL DISMISS
UNDER THIS BILL EVEN THOUGH I
DIDN'T QUALIFY WRITE LETTERS
FROM EVERY COURT DISMISSING THEM
UNDER FORTY ONE FIVE HUNDRED
WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW EXISTED AT
THE TIME.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU
KNOW IT HITS PEOPLE THAT.
FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE
THAT NEED THE HELP I THINK WE'LL
BE DOING MUCH BETTERJOB GIVE
DOING THAT FOR THEM. THEN TRYING
TO PROTECT AGAINST THE ONE OR
TWO PEOPLE THAT MAY TRY TO GAME
THE SYSTEM.
.
ISN'T.
FOR.
THE.
PROVISION THAT YOU REFERRED TO.
HAS BEEN DELETED WILL LAST
MARKUPS THAT'S NO LONGER IN THE
BILL THAT WAS NOT POETS NO
LONGER. IN AND.
.
EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.
NOT BEING THEIR CHOICE I'M
SAYING THAT PERSON BE
INCENTIVIZED.
TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT
RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE TO HAVE
THE FLASH GUARDSMEN BUT IT'S NO
LONGER IN THE BILL.
INSTEAD I GET THE GREATER GOOD
THE YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR.
WE HAD A WE HAVE A MOTION.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ANY
OF OTHER PEOPLE.
CENTER WINNER DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR.
MANAGER WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
I MEAN DO YOU THE SECTION I'M.
UNDER FORTY ONE FIVE HUNDRED.
I APOLOGIZE HE GO DOWN TO E..
SECTION ONE.
DON'T DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
YOUNG YOU KNOW WE USE TO SEEM
BILL NUMBERS WE USE THE SAME
LANGUAGE GETS VERY CONFUSING.
THANK YOU ARM.
I THINK WE'VE HAD A GOOD
DISCUSSION AND.
.
APPRECIATE THAT YOU POINTED OUT
THAT SECTION THOUGH I THINK IT'S
STILL APPLICABLES AND.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE.
COMMITTEES AYE VOTE NOW IS THIS
GOING WORSE IS HEADED NEXT.
OKAY SO IF WE WOULD GO AHEAD
RURAL COLLIN.
.
SOFT FOR PROCS.
INNER BY YOUR AYE ANDERSON.
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON.
MITCHELL AYE MITCHELL AYE STONE.
STONE NO WIENER.
ALRIGHT WIENER AYE.
ANDERSON NO ABIDE HIGH HANNAH
BETH.
I LOOSELY THIS OPEN I GOT RIGHT
NEXT DOOR SO HANNAH BETH CAN
COME BACK AND VOTE.
I SEE.
KASICH
.
OKAY.
OKAY
.
WE NEED TO.
BUT. WE.
THE COST YEAH. YEAH LOST MY.
ALL RIGHT HERE.
YOU'RE GONNA OPEN THE ROLE IN
SOME OF THE BILLS WHERE SOME OF
MY MEMBERS NEEDED TO BE OUT SO
WE WILL START.
.
COME IN THE FIRST BILL THAT
WE'RE GONNA DE OPEN THE ROLE AND.
S. B. NINETY THREE WIENER RIGHT
SO OPEN THE ROLE ON ITEM ONE S.
B. NINE TWO THREE SENATOR WIENER
GO AHEAD.
AND INNER.
I.
I AND MITCHELL.
THEN AS WE NINETY THREE.
EYEWITNESS ISSUE.
SO I WE'VE GOT.
LEAVE IT OPEN I WILL LEAVE US.
HERE PARTY.
THAT'S THIS BILL ON THIS ONE
JACKSON.
JACKSON AYE ALRIGHT SO NO. BILLS
OUT.
A.
SIX ZERO NOW WILL GO TO ITEM TWO
S. B. NINE SEVEN ONE IS THAT
CORRECT WE NEED TO. WERE DONE
WITHOUT A QUE S. B..
NOW I AM THREE SB NINE NINE ZERO
SENATOR WIENER LET'S HAVE THE
ROLL CALL FOR WHO IS NOT VOTED
ON THAT. JACKSON.
LOS
JACKSON I S. B. NINE NINE ZERO
OKAY. ALRIGHT SO THEN I A ON
ITEM NUMBER FOUR WE HAVE
EVERYBODY HERE FOR THAT.
NO OKAY SO S. B. TEN NINETY TWO
SENATOR ANDERSON SO BILL.
ROLL CALL. AND JACKSON NO.
JACKSON RECONSIDERATION PLEASE
YES
RECONSIDERATION IS GRANTED YOU
KNOW.
ALRIGHT SO NOW WE WILL GO TO IS
SENATOR JACKSON'S BILL ELLIOTT
THAT'S OUT.
SENATOR ANDERSON SPILL ITEM
NUMBER SIX S. B. TEN NINETY FIVE
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
THAT IS. THE CRIMINAL
PROCEEDINGS FOR ON MENTALLY CON
INCOMPETENT OFFENDERS AS AMENDED
BY THE COMMITTEE.
AND IT IS RIGHT NOW FIVE ZERO
AND IT'S GOING TO APPROPRIATIONS
SO. I I
SINCE I'VE WIENER AYE AYE WIENER
AYE.
ALRIGHT DOT.
THAT BILL IS OUT THAT IS SEVEN
ZERO CORRECT CANS OKAY.
S. B. ELEVEN OF THREE GUYS IN
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN S. B. ELEVEN A
THREE SENATOR BATES
THE.
EVERYONE IS TO ICE THREE KNOWS.
BRADFORD.
OKAY.
I'M NOW WE WILL GO TO. S. B.
ELEVEN A FIVE.
ITEM EIGHT THAT IS.
.
THE ONE I JUST PRESENTED I THINK
CENTER JACKSON YOU MAY BE THE
ONLY ONE OUT OF THE ROOM JACKSON.
YEAH SB ELEVEN A FIVE.
NOW NUMBER EIGHTY THREE OH OVER
A NUMBER EIGHT S. B. ELEVEN OH
FIVE SORRY. JACKSON AYE.
AND I.
THAT BILL IS NOW OUT THE VOTE
WAS FIVE TO.
WE WILL NOW.
CONSENT CALENDAR DO WE GET
EVERYBODY. GOT EVERYBODY OKAY SO
WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER.
THIRTEEN WHICH IS S. B. TWELVE
THIRTY THREE SENATOR MCGUIRE IT
IS FOUR ZERO CURRENTLY.
BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON
SWITZERLAND MCGUIRE KNOWN NO
AMENDMENTS.
THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.
PROBABLY NOT VOTER.
AND WIENER AYE AYE WIENER HIGH.
ALRIGHT.
IT SHOULDN'T.
ALRIGHT.
ISSUED AT.
SO ON ONE SECOND I'M GOING TO
TWENTY CSUS I'M SORRY I'M ALL
DONE I WILL ANNOUNCE IT I HAVE
NOT ANNOUNCED WITH THE VOTE WAS
ON THE LAST SHOW. S. B. TWELVE
THIRTY THREE IS NOW OUT
THE VOTE WAS SIX ZERO YEAH WE
WILL NOW.
SHE YOU WANNA BE ALL IS HIS
TWELVE THIRTY THREE BY THE WRONG
NUMBER OKAY RIGHTS ACTION ON ALL
RIGHT SO.
SEVEN ZERO SP TWELVE THIRTY
THREE ALLOW THE CHEER TO
ANNOUNCE IT OUT THINKING. IS NOW
OUT IN THE VOTE IS SEVEN ZERO.
WE WILL NOW GO TO SP TWELVE
SEVENTY ONE ITEM FOURTEEN
SENATOR NIELSEN.
ROLL CALL ON THE ABSENT MEMBERS
PLEASE BRADFORD.
WIENER.
INTERNET.
THAT.
BILL FAILS AND.
WE'VE GRANTED RICANS.
OKAY WE WILL NOW GO TO S. B.
TWELVE SEVENTY THREE SENATOR
HILL LET ME ANNOUNCE WHAT THE
RULE. IT IS THE BILL AS AMENDED
IT WILL GO TO WORK PROCS AND THE
VOTE COUNT AT THE MOMENT IS.
THREE ZERO.
ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NOW BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
WITH THEIR AMENDMENTS TAKE.
YES IT WAS THERE WERE THOSE THAT
READ. THE FIRST AS A WARNING.
IS.
CLASS WITH THE POINT.
AND THE THIRD IS LICENSE.
AND WHERE WAS SECURING THIS.
THEIR VERSION.
HERE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT.
OKAY ANNOUNCED STATUS OF THE
BILL.
EARLIER.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING.
WAIT YOU.
WHO VOTED FOR?
PATROL.
HILL WHICHEVER.
AND WIENER VOTED.
.
BUT IT TOOK THOSE DEMANDS.
YEAH TESTING IS NOT ADD UP I'M
GONNA VOTE I.
JACKSON I.
ALRIGHT SIR S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY
THREE IS NO OUT IT IS FOR TWO
ONE.
AND I THINK MS JACKSON YEAR SJR
ALREADY HAD EVERYBODY SO WITH
THAT ALL OF OUR BILLS HAVE BEEN
VOTED NINE.
AND ARE EITHER.
PASSED FIELDER RECONSIDERED.
AND. PUBLIC SAFETY WILL NOW
ADJOURN