FISCAL REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE AND
NUMBER TWO FIVE TWO.
SESSION.
I AM. WE HAVE SOME CHANGES WE
WILL NOT.
P.. THAT TAKING ANY VOTES ON
HIGH ISSUES TO DATE THAT MAY
HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN ON OF. THE
VOTE O. ONLY COME ON THE VOTE
ONLY CALENDAR UNDER THE
APARTMENT OF OF THE.
ABOUT A CALIFORNIA PIZZA.
CPUC EXCUSE ME ISSUE NUMBER FOUR
FIND GAS ELECTRIC SERVICES.
THIS CONNECTION WE'RE GONNA MOVE
TO DISCUSSION.
EXCUSE ME.
BUT ISSUE FOR. SO IT'S.
THIS IS THE TRAFFIC THREE.
SO AFFORDABILITY OKAY.
THE CASE THAT WILL BE ISSUE
NUMBER THREE SKEWS ME WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON THE WATER.
AFFORDABILITY UNDER THE OFFICE
OF THE.
.
BUT RATE PAYER ADVOCATE WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE OUT. BOTH OF THE.
VOTE ONLY MATTERS TO.
DISCUSSION ALSO.
SO THERE'S NO MOTION TO ON THE
REMAINDER THE CALENDAR.
.
ALRIGHT IN WITH THAT LET'S CALL
OF DUTY.
A. DEPARTMENT OF A.
ENERGY FORUM ITEM NUMBER ONE.
THEY GET THAT RIGHT.
IT'S YOU'RE PROHIBITED DRACULA
JUNIOR YEAH I KNOW I DID THINK
THAT.
I PUT IN SPUR MY NOTES BUT I
THINK.
YEAH I THINK IT'S.
THAT MAKES SENSE FIELD DRAFT.
THE REGULAR. PRICE GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE PROCEED.
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS OF MY NAME
IS COURTNEY SMITH I'M THE CHIEF
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION.
OKAY.
GREAT SO ON FOR THIS.
FIRST ITEM WE ARE REQUESTING A
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE
IN EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY FOR
BASELINE CONTRACTING FUNDS IN
ORDER TO SUPPORT. BY TITLE
TWENTY APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY
ENFORCEMENT TESTING.
AND I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY TURN
THIS OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE PAUL
DOUGLAS A CITY PAUL JACOBS WHO
IS THE ARCHITECTURE OF OUR
COMPLAINTS ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO YOU
ABOUT THE PROGRAM. AS WELL AS
I'M OUR REQUEST.
GOOD MORNING. GERMAN Y. KILLS
KEY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M PAUL JACOBS AND I'M THE
ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
AND SERVE AS A DIRECTOR OF THE
OFFICE COMPLAINTS SYSTEMS AND
ENFORCEMENT. THE LEGISLATURE
DIRECTED THE ENERGY COMMISSION
TO DEVELOP IMPLEMENT ENFORCE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS.
THE ENERGY COMMISSION HAS
ADOPTED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS
ENERGY EFFICIENCY REGULATIONS
DATING BACK TO THE MID
SEVENTIES.
THERE ARE TWENTY THREE
CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REGULATION
ONE LARGE CATEGORY A SMALL
BATTERY CHARGER SYSTEMS. USED
FOR BATTERY POWERED POWER TOOLS
IN LONDON GARDEN EQUIPMENT CELL
PHONES LAPTOPS TABLETS AND
PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS SUCH AS
TOOTHBRUSHES AND RAZORS.
OTHER CATEGORIES INCLUDE
PERSONAL COMPUTERS AND MONITORS
PULL PUMP SPAS TELEVISIONS AND
WATER APPLIANCES SUCH AS FAUCETS
TOILETS AND SHOWER HEADS.
TO CITE AN EXAMPLE STANDARDS FOR
SMALL BATTERY CHARGER SYSTEMS
WERE ADOPTED IN JANUARY TWENTY
TWELVE. UNDERESTIMATED TO SAVE
NEARLY TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
GIGAWATT HOURS OF POWER. PER
YEAR ARE ENOUGH ENERGY TO POWER
NEARLY THREE NINE FIFTY THOUSAND
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THIS SAVES CALIFORNIA LIKE CREEK
UTILITY RATE PAYERS OVER. THREE
BILLION DOLLARS OVER TEN YEARS
AND ELIMINATES.
ONE MILLION METRIC TONS OF
CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS.
TO DATE WE HAVE TESTED A HUNDRED
FIFTEEN YOU THE UNITS IN OUR LAB
WAS SEVENTY NINE FAILING HER
SIXTY NINE PERCENT. AND MORE
PENDING.
ADDITION WE HAVE TESTED FOR SPAS
WITH THREE FAILING THIRTEEN PULL
POPS WITH ALL FILL IN.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE HAVE
TESTED SEVEN TELEVISIONS WITH
ALL PASSING.
THE A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF
NONCOMPLIANCE CREATES AN UNFAIR
BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT.
FOR COMPLAIN COMPANIES.
UNDERMINE CITY EXPECTED ENERGY
SAVINGS AND GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSION REDUCTIONS.
AND NEEDLESSLY COSTS REPAIRS
HIGHER UTILITY BILLS.
IN JULY OF TWENTY FIFTEEN THE
ENERGY COMMISSION AND. ADOPTED
SECTION SIX YOU KNOW NINE TWO
IT'S A PLANE IT'S ENERGY
EFFICIENCY REGULATIONS.
AMPLE MANY SENATE BILL FOUR
FIFTY FOUR TWENTY ELEVEN.
AUTHORIZING THE ENERGY
COMMISSION TO ASSESS PENALTIES
UP TO TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
PER VIOLATION.
THE ENERGY COMMISSION'S OFFICE
OF COMPLIANCE IS A SIN AND
ENFORCEMENT.
IT WAS FORM SOON THEREAFTER. AND
PRIMARILY CONDUCTS THESE
INVESTIGATIONS.
THE ENERGY COMMISSION CONTRACTS
WITH CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
SACRAMENTO COLLEGE OF
ENGINEERING TO PERFORM APPLIANCE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY ENFORCEMENT
TESTING.
TO DATE THE SLAB HAS COMPLETED
TWO HUNDRED TO TEST.
THE VARIOUS APPLIANCES WITH A
HUNDRED SIXTEEN ARE FIFTY SEVEN
PERCENT FAILING WITH ELEVEN IN
PENDING AND HUNDRED ON THE WAIT
LIST.
THE TESTING PERFORMED AT THIS
LAB HAS BEEN USED TO SUPPORT
SEVENTY CASES CLOSE BY THE
OFFICE COMPLIANCE ASSISTANCE AND
ENFORCEMENT. OF WHICH FORTY TWO
HAVE SETTLED FOR APPROXIMATE
FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN
PENALTIES.
WITH AN ADDITIONAL SIX PENDING
FOR AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN
THOUSAND.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY FORTY THREE
CASES UNDER INVESTIGATION WITH
MORE PENDING.
A LISTING OF OUR CIVIL CASES IS
AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB PAGE.
ADDITIONALLY WHEN CASES ARE
SETTLED THE COMPANY RE ENGINEERS
ITS PRODUCTS TO NOT ONLY COMPLY
WITH OUR STANDARDS.
THIS ENGINEERING IS OFTEN ALSO
PLAYED ACROSS ALL MODEL LINES.
THAT ARE SOLD NATIONWIDE AND
WORLDWIDE.
THE BCP BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR
CONSIDERATION* FOUR HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EXPENDITURE
AUTHORITY.
FOR ARE BASED ON CONTRACT
FUNDING FROM THE SENATE BILL FOR
FIFTY FOUR PLANES FISHING SCENE
FORSMAN SUBS.
A SUB ACCOUNT TO SUPPORT OUR LAB
TESTING.
THIS HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
WOULD INCREASE TESTING CAPACITY
TO SUPPORT THEM GROWING PROGRAM
INFRASTRUCTURE. HELLO FOR NEW
APPLIANCE CATEGORIES TO BE
TESTED.
PROVIDE A THIRTY PERCENT
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
APPLIANCES TESTED.
PROVIDE FOR AN ADDITIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL TESTS CHAMBER TO
TEST HIGH ENERGY CONSUMING
APPLIANCES SUCH AS WALL AND
WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS SPOTS
AND REFRIGERATION PRODUCTS.
AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TEST LAB
CONTRACT SERVICES INCLUDING
SUBCONTRACTING WITH OTHER LABS
IN ENGINEERING CONSULTING
SERVICES TO SUPPORT OUR
MANUFACTURING CONTRACT LAB.
PLOTTED PROGRAM.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND ITS STAFF FOR THE
EXCELLENT OVERVIEW OF THE TITLE
TWENTY PLANES ENERGY EFFICIENT
STANDARDS.
PROGRAM PROVIDED IN TODAY'S
HEARING AGENDA.
IN THIS OVERVIEW YOU ASK IF WE
CAN KEEP UP WITH FAST CHANGING
TECHNOLOGY INCREASING
NONCOMPLIANCE PLUS. WHAT ACTIONS
ARE WE TAKING TO SOLVE THE NON
COMPLAINTS ISSUE?
THE ENERGY COMMISSION TEAM
INCLUDING NOR. CAL STATE
UNIVERSITY SACRAMENTO
ENGINEERING TEST LAB TEAM IS
COSTLY STUDY IN THE EMERGING
TECHNOLOGIES TO KEEP UP TO DATE.
WE ARE DRESSING THE
NONCOMPLIANCE ISSUES ON NUMEROUS
FRONTS
REACHING EDUCATION PROGRAM. THAT
ENGAGES THE REGULATED INDUSTRIES
IN THEIR TEST LABS ON REGULATORY
ISSUES AND COMPLIANCE.
TO WHERE CLOSELY WORKING WITH
TRADE ASSOCIATIONS EDUCATE THEM
AND THEY'RE MEMBER COMPANIES ON
COMPLIANCE ISSUES.
THREEWE ARE PUBLISHING
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ON OUR WEB
PORTAL. AND THESE ARE BEING
REPORTED THE NUMEROUS TRADE AND
OTHER PUBLICATIONS
INCLUDING CONSUMER AND OF I'M
PROTECTION PUBLICATIONS.
THE NUMEROUS LAW FIRMS ARE ALSO
REPORTING OR CASES ON THEIR WEB
PORTALS THIS CREATES A STRONG
DETERRENT EFFECT.
AND LASTLY WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A
COMPREHENSIVE APPLIANCES
MANUFACTURING CONTRACT WELL BUT
IT PROGRAM. TO ENSURE THAT THESE
LABS ARE QUICKLY TESTING AND
REPORTED ENGINEERING DATA.
TOWARD DATABASE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. CLOSE
OFFER YOU A TOUR OF OUR LABS HE
CAN OBSERVE TESTING FIRSTHAND.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR TO TOUR OFFER.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CLARIFICATION ON THAT THE STAFF
COMMENT AND.
REPORT MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS
ON THIS IS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
ON THE.
.
CENTER NIELSEN.
THANK YOU.
THIRD I WOULD.
LISTENING.
SHE LIKE KIND OF A CORE
PHILOSOPHY IS.
.
USING A REGULATION.
TO FORCE TECHNOLOGY.
NOW IF.
YOU HAVE A REGULATION THAT SAYS
DO THIS IN SUCH.
AND THE INDUSTRY COMPLIES.
DOES THAT MEAN IT'S ALL OVER
WITH.
OR DOES THAT MEAN YOU COME OUT.
AND KEEP TESTING AND TELLING
THEM NO YOU NEED TO DO MORE MORE
MORE THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE
THAT'S WHY ASK.
IS THERE EVER A A AN END FOR A
BUSINESS.
THAT YES YOU COMPLY.
YOU SAY DO THIS THEY DO THAT AND
THEN YOU COME OUT AND TEST WELL
LED AND MARK.
WELL I JUST SPENT FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS.
TOUGH.
ANOTHER FIVE IS THAT HOW IT
WORKS.
WILL SENATOR.
AS INDICATED IN MY TESTIMONY
FOR EXAMPLE WE TESTED SEVEN
TELEVISIONS AND THOSE
MANUFACTURES IT SPANNED MANY
MANUFACTURERS I BELIEVE THERE
ARE SIX OR SEVEN MANUFACTURERS.
AND THOSE ALL COMPLIED.
WE ARE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES
WITH OTHER TECHNOLOGIES. AND A
LOT OF THESE.
COMPLAINTS WE RECEIVE ARE FROM
INDUSTRY. THAT CONSTANTLY ARE
MONITORING AND TESTING THEIR
COMPETITORS PRODUCTS AND
BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION
IS IN A ONE AND AND FOR BUSINESS
ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE ARE MONITOR THAT VERY
CLOSELY AND FOLLOW UP ON THOSE.
COMPLAINTS IN THOSE TAKE FIRST
PRIORITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT. THE ROLE FOLLOWING
THE REGULATIONS THE RULES. AND
BUILDING AND.
.
PUTTING IN THE MARKETPLACE
COMPLAIN PRODUCTS.
AND THEN HOW OFTEN KNOW THESE
RULES CHANGE ON ANY GIVEN ISSUE
DO YOU HAVE A REGULAR MONTHLY
SESSION WHERE YOU ENTERTAIN
REGULATORY CHANGES AND PROFFER
THOSE TO THE.
THAT OFFICE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.
I KNOW THEY'RE ONLY CHANGE ON AN
AD NEEDED BASIS.
SO.
IF WE REALIZE THAT WE HAVE SOME
ANTIQUATED TEST PROCEDURES.
OUR STANDARDS BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY
IS REALLY MERGING AT A FAST PACE
THESE DAYS AS WE ALL KNOW. ON
THEN WE DO LOOK AT. UPDATED
STANDARDS.
CONTEST PROCEDURES MEL A HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS.
DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF
MONEY COULD THAT NOT. THIS COST
NOT BE ABSORBED IN YOUR EXISTING
BUDGET.
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THIS REQUEST THERE IS HOPE FOR
EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY TO
ACTUALLY HAVE AN APPROPRIATION
TO PLL MONEY FROM. THIS ACCOUNT
THAT'S ESTABLISHED IN STATUTE WE
NEED AN APPROPRIATION TO.
UTILIZE AT MONEY AND IT GOES TO
OUR LABORATORY HERE AT THE LOCAL
UNIVERSITY IN THE COLLEGE OF
ENGINEERING THAT DOES OUR
ENFORCEMENT TESTING.
THINKING I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE
SH SMILE MAYBE A NOT NOT A SMILE
OR FROWN FOR SOME IT WAS FOR ME.
THE FORMER SECRETARY RESOURCES.
IN THE.
EARLY EIGHTIES.
CALL THIS PHENOMENON OF THE YOU
KNOW WILL DO REGULATION.
AND. WELL I COMPLY WELL WE'LL
SEE.
MOTOR VITAL COMPILING ELECTED DO
SOMETHING ELSE.
AND I ASK THE SECRETARY IN THE
HEARING OF THIS SORT.
YOU KNOW WASN'T THAT KIND OF A.
WHAT WHAT DID YOU CALL THAT?
AND HE SAID.
TECHNOLOGY. BUT FORCING.
REGULATION.
MEANING BY REGULATION WILL FORCE
YOU TO SPEND MONEY THAT'S HOW I
LOOKED AT.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AMUSING.
AND THE. THE BUSINESS GETS TO BE
THE GUINEA PIG.
HOW DO YOU THEN ESTABLISH THE
THRESHOLDS IN YOUR REGULATIONS
BEFORE YOU YOU OFFER THEM BILL?
WHO WHAT BASIS DO YOU HAVE YOU
TESTED A GIVEN KIND OF?
TECHNOLOGY. AND ITS APPLICATION
JUST GOT TO BE TWO THINGS TO AND
THE APPLICATION OF THE
TECHNOLOGY.
OKAY WILL THE WAY HERB.
THESE REGULATIONS ARE ADOPTED WE
START WITH A COMPREHENSIVE HOME
PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE WE CONDUCT
WORKSHOPS IN FACT FINDING WITH
THE REGULATED INDUSTRIES.
AND WORKING WITH THESE
INDUSTRIES
WE DETERMINE WHAT ARE FEASIBLE
STANDARDS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
YOUR OBVIOUSLY US DEPARTMENT
ENERGY HAS A STAKE IN THIS ITEM.
IN MANY OTHERS SO WITH.
THAT PROCESS
WE GO THROUGH THE NORMAL RULE
MAKING PROCESS IN THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD LAYER LEADING UP
TO A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN GO
TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS
AND INCORPORATE ALL COMMENTS
RECEIVED THEN AND GO FORWARD
WITH PUBLICATION THE
REGULATIONS.
AND IT'S A CONSTANT REVIEW
PROCESS.
TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE WORKING
EFFECTIVELY. AND THEY'RE ALWAYS
GONNA BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.
THE PROVISION IN THE.
BACK TO THE CREATED THE OFFICE
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW THAT
REQUIRES.
THE DEPARTMENT'S PROPPING
REGULATIONS TO UP CONSIDER.
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THAT
REGULATION NOW DO YOU DO THAT AS
WELL AND USE THE PROFFER YOUR
REGULATION. ABSOLUTELY.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU.
I WILL ONE BOOK AT A.
HOLD THIS MATTER I WILL SAY THAT
AT LEAST FROM ALL THE GOVERNMENT
PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY STAR IN THE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY FOR
APPLIANCES.
IZZY AT WORLDWIDE LEADER YOU
HAVE YOU FOLKS HAVE
REVOLUTIONIZED HOW PEOPLE MAKE
WASHERS AND DRYERS AND
REFRIGERATORS AND ALLTHE OTHER
APPLIANCES THAT THE CONSUMERS
MAKES AND NOW. ANYBODY CAN WALK
INTO.
ANY.
ABOUT RETAIL OUTLET IF THEY
STILL GO TO RETAIL BECAUSE LIVE
WHERE THEY CAN GO ONLINE AYE
GUESSING AND AND HAVE THAT
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MY ENERGY
USE IS GOING TO BE ON THIS
REFRIGERATOR. ON A YEARLY BASIS
AND AND ALL THE ALL THE PLAYERS
ALL THAT ALL THE FACTORY WORKERS
SIR AND PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE
THINGS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE
COMPETING TO MAKE SURE THAT
THAT'S WHAT THE CONSUMERS ARE
INTERESTED IN NOT JUST. WHERE
YOU PUT YOUR LETTUCE AND WHAT
CHORE BUT BUT WHAT THIS WHAT
STAT IS READING THAT WE GET OUT
OF?
CALIFORNIA SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
WILL HOLD THIS MATTER LET'S GO
ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WITCHES
ARE.
BUS REPLACEMENT AND RETROFIT
PROGRAM GREAT THANK YOU AND SO
THE ENERGY COMMISSION IS
REQUESTING AUTHORITY.
FOR THREE YEAR FUNDING A
TOTALING NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS ANNUALLY TO SUPPORT SIX
TEMPORARY POSITIONS ON AND THIS
MONEY WOULD COME FROM THE
ALTERNATIVE AND RENEWABLE FUEL
AND VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY FUND.
AND IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON
PROVIDING US WITH THE STAFF
RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO
ADMINISTER THE NEW SCHOOL BUS
RETROFIT AND REPLACEMENT. ON
ACTIVITIES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED
UNDER THE CLEAN ENERGY JOB
CREATION PROGRAM ON WHICH WAS
RESULT OF SENATE BILL ONE TIME
LAST YEAR. FUND SO WHAT I'LL DO
IS JUST FOCUS.
REALLY QUICKLY ON THE QUESTIONS
THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD FUND SO
IN TERMS OF ON PROGRAM DESIGN
AND ENSURING THAT THEY'LL BE
BOTH GEOGRAPHIC AS WELL OF SOCIO
ECONOMIC EQUITY. IN TERMS OF
WHICH I A SCHOOL BUS PROJECTS
WILL BE SELECTED.
THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS THAT WE
ARE CONSIDERING IN ORDER TO
BALANCE THESE CONSIDERATIONS.
AND. THESE OPTIONS HAVE BEEN
PUT OUT A THROUGH A PUBLIC
PROCESS.
AND SO FOR EXAMPLE ONE APPROACH
THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
IT'S ACTUALLY.
FOCUSED ON A DIVIDING THE STATE
INTO FOUR REGIONS ON EACH
REGIONAL ESSENTIALLY REPRESENTS
AN AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE OF
APPROXIMATELY WHAT YEAH BUT WE
HAVE THAT DIVISION IN OTHER.
CLEAN AIR AND ENERGY IS THAT IS
THAT THE STANDARDS PROSTITUTE
FOR THIS APPROACH AND THE
PRESIDENT IS ON THE PROP THIRTY
NINE PROGRAM. THROUGH THE
ANSWERS YET WHICH IS EXPIRING IN
JUNE EIGHT TWENTY EIGHT TING.
ABOUT ABOUT THAT OKAY. I'M AND
THIS IS ONE APPROACH ON THAT IN
TERMS OF I'M TRYING TO BE.
EQUITABLE FROM A GEOGRAPHICAL
STANDPOINT ON WE ARE CITY ARE WE
ARE RECEIVING PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD CLOSED
ACTUALLY YESTERDAY AT FIVE PM.
ON SO IN ADDITION TO EXPLAIN A
FEW OPTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW WE
WOULD DISTRIBUTE FUNDS
GEOGRAPHICALLY.
WERE ALSO.
BONTA PROPOSING ESTABLISHING
CRITERIA TO AWARD APPLICATIONS
EXTRA POINTS.
THE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED BOTH
AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AS
WELL AS.
SERVINGS SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT
HAVE SIGNIFICANT POPULATIONS
THAT ON RELY ON FREE OR
DISCOUNTED MEAL PROGRAMS ON SO
THAT WOULD BE A SELECTION
CRITERIA THAT WOULD TRY TO
ENSURE REACHING ON BETTER SOCIO.
ECONOMIC WOULDN'T SOME OF THE
CRITERIA THAT YOU WOULD ALSO
LOOK AT IS WHAT'S DISTRICT LOOKS
LIKE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT'S.
GIVEN THE PRICE SEVENTY FIVE
MILLION IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT
OF MONEY BUT FOR SCHOOL BUSES IS
NOT THAT MUCH MONEY CONSIDERING
ALL THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT WE
HAVE AND SINCE IT'S.
CLEAN AIR THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THAT GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS GONNA GO DOWN WHEREVER
WE PUT WOULD BY THE BRAND NEW
SCHOOL BUSES I SEE IT'S FIFTEEN
HUNDRED. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS
THAT YOU HAVE SOME YOU KNOW
RURAL AREAS WHERE IT'S MAY NOT
BE APPROPRIATE TO TEST TRY OUT
THE FIRST TRANCHE OF ELECTRIC
BUSES. AND HAVE YOU GO UP AND
AND PICK UP PEOPLE WERE A
SUBURBAN AREA WOULD HAVE MORE OF
A. YOU KNOW I'VE.
FIXED ROUTE SO IF ANYTHING WERE
TO TO GO WRONG VISITS PLENTY OF
BUYERS OR SELLERS OUT THERE IN
THAT IN THAT IS THAT A CRITERIA
BECAUSE I WAS AND. I DON'T KNOW
IF WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE JOB
DESCRIPTIONS OF THAT WAS.
YEAH SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES
THAT WE HAVE IS BALANCING NOT
ONLY GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY SINCE YOU
ARE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY BUT ALSO
TRYING TO MAXIMIZE. THE PUBLIC
HEALTH BENEFITS RIGHT OF THIS
PROGRAM THE IDEA IS TO MAKE SURE
WERE ON PROTECTING CHILDREN.
AND SO FOR INSTANCE ONE OF THE.
APPROACHES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING
ACTUALLY IS ON BASED ON.
IT DEAD OR I SHOULD SAY ONE OF
THE CRITERIA THAT WERE
CONSIDERING IS WHETHER OR NOT ON
THE NUMBER THE RIDERSHIP OF THE
VEHICLES THEMSELVES SHOULD ON
PLAY INTO SUPPORTING. OUR
PRIORITIZING THE PROJECTS THE
IDEA BEING THAT.
IF SCHOOL BUSES ARE BEING
UTILIZED HEAVILY AND FOR
INSTANCE AT A CENTRAL URBAN AREA
PERHAPS THAT SHOULD RECEIVE
ADDITIONAL CRITERIA. ONTO THAT
IS ABSOLUTELY PART OF OUR
CONSIDERATION I'M AS I MENTIONED
WE HAVEN'T LANDED ON A FINAL PER
ON PROPOSED PROGRAM DESIGN AT
THIS POINT WERE REALLY WAITING
TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. TO.
TO GET THEIR INPUT YEAH I GUESS
I GUESS I'M I'M CONCERNED WITH
IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY AND IF
WE JUST WENT OUT ONE OF THE
OTHER FACTORS IS THE HIGH COST
OF THIS FOR ELECTRIC BUSES.
SO WE IS THE STATE AS A BUYER IF
WE JUST WENT OUT IF WE DIDN'T
HAVE SIX POSITIONS AND WE JUST
WENT OUT AND BOUGHT BRAND NEW
BUSES.
WHICH SPENT ALL THE SEVENTY FIVE
MILLION ON THE BUSES AND.
YOU SEEN YOU KNOW.
.
ANY CRITERIA THAT WE REPLACED IT
THE OLDEST BUSES THE MOST
POLLUTING BUSES THAT THE BUSES
THAT WERE THERE AND YOU KNOW
EYEBALL THAT AND SORT OF SPREAD
IT OUT. THAT WOULD HAVE AN
EFFECT ON THE MARKET THAT
PRODUCES THESE THAT THE SCHOOL
BUT AS THE SIX DISTRICTS SAID
EVEN DIDN'T GET A BUS WOULD BE
IN THE MARKET BECAUSE THEY SAY
POINT YOU PROVE THAT PRICE DOWN
BY. THE STATE ACTING AS AN EARLY
ADOPTER THERE.
.
SO I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT
THERE WOULD HOLD THE ITEM BUT
I'M I'M I'M INCH INTERESTED IN
YOU KNOW WHEN WE WERE. THE LAST
TIME I WAS TALKING WITH THE AIR
RESOURCE BOARD. NOW DIRECTOR ON
THIS INSANE IDEA WE HAD JUST
GETS BY SOME BUSES RETROFITTING
DO WHATEVER IT IS QUICKLY.
CAUSES IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU
KNOW WHEN I READ YOUR REPORT.
THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE
MANAGE FUNDING AGREEMENTS SIX
THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED SEVENTY SIX
I MEAN. I'M A LAWYER YOU THIS
SOMEBODY HAS BOUGHT A SCHOOL BUS
THAT'S ELECTRIC CHANGE THE
SCHOOL DISTRICT'S NAME PUT IN
THE DIFFERENT PERSON AND LET'S
GO IT'S CUT AND PASTE IT'S NOT.
IT IT IT IT I DON'T WANT TO SEE
SO MUCH WORK GOING INTO A NO.
ONE THE REASONS WHY SOME PEOPLE
DON'T LIKE STATE GOVERNMENT IS
THAT WE WE CREATE THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE TO GOES IN AND WE
WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE DATA THAT
YOU WANT AND I. I'M GONNA GET
THAT DATA IN A LONGER BECAUSE I
THINK THIS IS JUST THE FIRST
LITTLE CRUNCH OF. ELECTRIC
SCHOOL BUSES ARE GOING TO BE
REPLACED AND THERE'S OTHER
CRITERIA SO.
JUST CONSIDER THAT SENATOR
MCGUIRE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MISTER CHAIR
AT INTO A AND ALONG THE SAME
LINES THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD IT'S A IT'S A VERY
IMPORTANT PROGRAM.
.
THE PLEASURE BEING IN A PRISON
BACK URBAN AREAS THAT STATE IN
AT SOME OF THE MOST RURAL. A IN
GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH A
CALVET AIR RESOURCES BOARD BILL
TO RESTORE THE TEN MILLION. ARE
IN SCHOOL BUS REPLACEMENT VERY
HAVE A PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE
CENTURY REALIZES THAT THEY'VE
DONE THE RESEARCH IN REGARDS TO
WHERE THE DIRTY IS BURNING. HOT
SCHOOL BUSES ARE AS FAR AS THE
AGE ONE OF THE READ AREAS THAT
WE'VE FOUND IN IN PARTICULAR
RURAL AREAS RIGHT. NAY I'M TEND
TO BE MORE IMPOVERISHED CANDIDLY
I AND ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN A
SCHOOL BUS REPLACE HAS LAGGED
BEHIND MORE SUBURBAN AND URBAN
AREAS. IN DURING THE RECESSION
THE CITY CALIFORNIA CUT. THE
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WERE
THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR THAT
SCHOOL BUS REPLACEMENT FOR SMALL
AND RURAL DISTRICTS.
TO LIVE LAGGED BEHIND FURTHER
NOW NOW IT'S BEEN RESTORED BY
CAR IT WAS UP TO TEN MILLION
LAST YEAR VERY SUCCESSFUL
PROGRAM.
BUT THEY'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED
A REGIONAL COORDINATORS IN
DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE STATE.
THAT WHO ARE IN CHARGE THE
PROGRAM THERE AND THAT HE WAS IN
THEIR DISTRICTS AS I'M SURE YOU
KNOW THIS. ON IN.
TO RATHER RECREATING THE WHEEL.
USING WHAT POTENTIALLY IS
ALREADY THERE. BUT AND I WOULD
YOU SAY AYE. RATHER THAN JUST
TAKING REGION'S I WOULD HOPE
THAT THERE IS AND YOU MENTION.
IN THE ANALYSIS TALKS ABOUT
SMALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO RURAL
SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAY NOT HAVE
THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO
APPLY WHICH IS ALWAYS THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE.
WHICH IS WHY CARP CREATED THEIR
OWN BUCKET.
FOR URBAN SUBURBAN AS WELL AS
RURAL. AYE IN. YOUR THOUGHTS ON
THAT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO THE
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IF YOU
DON'T MIND ARE COMING TO ONE I
JUST MENTIONED NO ABSOLUTELY I'M
AWARE OF VERY AWARE OF THE
AIRPORTS EFFORTS AND WE'VE BEEN
COORDINATING WITH SAM ON IN FACT
THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY INSTRUMENTAL
AND. ONHELPING US REALLY
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FLEET OF
BUSES LOOK LIKE IN SCHOOL
DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE.
PARDON ME.
AND SO ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF THE
EFFORTS THAT THEY'RE DOING ON
AND YOU KNOW COULD PLAN TO
CONTINUE TO ALIGN WITH SAM. ON.
IN TERMS OF HOW WE DECIDE TO OF
FUNDAMENTALLY DISTRIBUTE THE
MONIES THE EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE
IN TERMS OF GEOGRAPHIC.
GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION WAS
ONE EXAMPLE ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS
BEING ABLE TO PRIORITIZE BASED
ON AND. PURELY THE AGE OF THE
BUS ITSELF AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS
YOU ARE ABLE TO BRING IN MORE
RURAL COMMUNITIES FOR SURE.
ABSOLUTELY A.
THERE ARE ALREADY ATLEE
LITERALLY. GRANT DOLLARS ARE
PAYING FOR NEW POSITIONS AN AIR
DISTRICTS.
I'D TO BE A TO MANAGE THE
PROGRAM IN REGIONS NOW FOR CAR.
THERE'S ONE POSITION FOR EXAMPLE
IF IN ARCADIA DIES ALL RULE IN
SMALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS
THE STATE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHY WE WOULD THINK ABOUT
CREATING A NEW PROCESS.
WAY IN POSITIONS OF ARTIE BEEN
HIRED BY ONE DEPARTMENT DOES A
SEPARATE DEPARTMENT.
DOT.
IN WHY WOULD WE ESTABLISH NEW
PROCESS WHEN DISTRICTS ARE USED
TO HOW TO APPLY IT WE ARE TO
HAVE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND. YEAH
I WOULD SAY THAT I'M ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
AND AND.
Y. AND THERE MAY BE AN
IMPORTANT ON VALUE ADDED TO
HAVING US DO SOMETHING SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT IS THAT. ON THE VISION
FOR THIS PROGRAM IS TO NOT ONLY
FOCUSED ON PROVIDING HIGH
INCENTIVES FOR. THE BUS
REPLACEMENTS AND RETROFITS
THEMSELVES BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE
TO COUPLE IT WITH THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND IN SOME
INSTANCES THE WORKFORCE TRAINING
AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NEEDED TO
GO WITH THAT. FUNDS OF FOR
INSTANCE ON BEING ABLE TO
LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON.
THAT HAS HISTORICALLY COME FROM
AIR FTTP AN ORDER TO PROVIDE
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
INSTANCE AT A SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SUPPORT THE BUSES THAT WE WOULD
BE FUNDING. WE BAKERY DISCREET I
I'M STILL NOT SOLD ON WHY WE
NEED A WHOLE OTHER PROGRAM IN
THE OTHER ITEM I WOULD SAY IS.
ON IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE CARD
DATA ABOUT ELECTRIC BURST BUSES
VERSES CLEANER BURNING BUSES IN
RURAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS BECAUSE
THEY'RE GOING SUCH LENGTH. AND
ELEVATIONS ELECTRIC BUSES DON'T
WORK.
AND SO I AND AGAIN SO FOUR DISC.
HOW I WOULD JUST CAUTION ABOUT
THAT ONE TECHNOLOGY HAVE SOME
CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S
BEEN VERY CLEAR? IF YOU'RE ON
OUR HALF EACH WAY ON A BUS
I AM VERY STEEP AREAS IT'S
DOESN'T WORK. THAT WAY.
LET ME FOLLOW ON THAT DAY AND
DID THE PRACTICALITY. OF
IMPOSING THIS ON A.
RURAL DISTRICT.
.
DO YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
THEY JUST CAN'T.
COMPLY WITH THIS YOU CAN OPPOSED
THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY
WHAT SHOULD I DO THAT FOR THIS
THE KIDS.
IF THAT'S.
PROBABLY A PRETTY DIFFICULT
BURDEN.
HOW WOULD W. ACCOMMODATE THAT
HOW DO YOU HELP THEM HOW DO YOU
HELP FIND JOBS?
WHEN YOU HAVE CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE
THAT IN RURAL AREAS WELL SENATOR
JUST AS A A POINT OF
CLARIFICATION THIS PROGRAM IS
NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS IT IS MERELY. ON A POT
OF MONEY THAT THEY CAN LEVERAGE
TO UPDATE THEIR SCHOOL BUS BUT
YOU COULD QUALIFY THEY HAVE TO
MEET YOUR. STANDARDS DO THEY
NOT.
AND WE WILL HAVE FUNDING
CRITERIA.
THAT WILL BE BASED ON A WHOLE
SUITE OF THINGS INCLUDING THE
AGE OF THE OF THE VEHICLE ON AND
SO THERE IS A VERY HIGH
PROBABILITY THAT PLENTY OF WILL
COMMUNITIES WILL BE ABLE TO. ON
MEET THE CRITERIA OF AND BENEFIT
FROM THIS PROGRAM.
WHERE IS THE ASPECT OF JOBS COME
INTO THE CONSIDERATION WORD?
WHERE DOES THAT FIT IN?
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT OF
PURSUING THE THIS TECHNOLOGY
THERE COULD BE I'M A WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT OR TRAINING
OPPORTUNITIES ASSOCIATED WITH
IT.
ON AS APPROPRIATE WE WOULD
PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT AMONG
COUPLE IT WITH THE
INSTALLATIONS.
DO YOUR.
POLICIES REGULATIONS. COMPORT
WITH TRACK WITH
CARBS AS UP AS WELL.
A DISINCENTIVE PROGRAM AS HAD
BEEN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IS ONE
OF A FEW THAT ARE FOCUSED ON ON
IMPROVING SCHOOL BUS FLEETS IN
THE STATE. ON AND WE ARE ON IN
THE PROCESS OF COORDINATING
CONTINUING TO COORDINATE WITH
SAM ON AND IN TERMS OF PROGRAM
DESIGN.
I MEAN HEARING FOLKS ON AND THE
DESIRE TO ON MAKE SURE THAT
THERE IS ALIGNMENT TO THE EXTENT
POSSIBLE AND I THINK THAT MAKES
A LOT OF SENSE TO FROM A SCHOOL
DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE.
IN THAT IT MINIMIZES CONFUSION.
IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T AYE HEART
HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT.
.
SO YOU DO AVOID THE CONFUSION.
OR THE CONFLICT IF YOU WILL.
AS IT DID JUST JUST VERY
CHALLNGING AS. MY COLLEAGUE
HERE FROM THE NORTH COAST SPEAKS
TO I REPRESENT A LOT OF THESE
COUNTIES IT TO.
HAVE THESE.
VERY DIFFICULT TO LET'S SAY
TRANSIT SITUATIONS.
ARE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE
RIDERSHIP.
.
HOW DOES THAT?
WORK.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS
BASED ON THE NUMBER OF.
STUDENTS IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT.
AVERAGE OUT TO THE YEAR.
WRITING IN DIFFERENT AREA IT IS
ACT OF ONE OF THE CRITERIA THE
NUMBERS.
IT IS A PROPOSED CRITERIA BUT AS
I MENTIONED THE FINAL PROGRAM
DESIGN IS CONTINGENT UPON ON THE
PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WE GET. ON
SO WHILE ON THE NUMBER OF
STUDENTS THAT ON THE BUS FEET
COULD SERVE ON IS ON THE TABLE
AND IT'S NOT FINAL YET OUR
ACTUAL WITH THE LINE OF PEOPLE
COMPLAIN.
THE THAT MAY AFFECT THE
DECISION.
IT'S CERTAINLY AND AND TO BE
CLEAR IT WOULD BE ONE OF MANY
CRITERIA AND STOOD THANK YOU.
BUT CHALLENGES IS IT'S NOT THAT
MANY BASSES IT'S THE FIRST STEP
THAT WE'RE DOING WE HAVE TO LOOK
AT RURAL AND URBAN AND SUBURBAN.
WE GOT.
THREE YEARS HAVE PHONE OF NINE
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SIX
PEOPLE TO IT IS GOING BE. YOU
KNOW ALL A LOT OF STUDY AND
ANALYSIS AND PEOPLE GET THAT
JUSTIFY THAT AND YOU KNOW I
GUESS YOU'RE HEARING THAT JUST
BY THE BUSES THERE'S PLENTY
PEOPLE PIES SCHOOL DISTRICTS
WANT BUSES. AND THEY'LL FIGURE
OUT HOW THE PLUG IT IN IF WE
GIVE HIM AN ELECTRIC BUZZ THE
QUESTION IS IS THAT WE DON'T
WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY THAT
WOULD.
BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO GET A
HYBRID OR TWO AGO I THINK I
CLEAN DIESEL OR A NATURAL GAS
BUS THAT EUROPEAN MEAT AND WE
KNOW THAT. I IF I KNOW THAT YOU
GUYS KNOW THAT IN THE THE
COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT SO LET'S IT
WILL GET PUT ON HOLD I MADE A
MISTAKE SO I WILL NOW OPEN UP.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ISSUE
NUMBER TWO ON THE BUSES AND IF
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT ON. TITLE TWENTY
APPLIANCE AND THERE'S A LOT BET
THAT PUBLIC COMMENT TO.
IT'S THE FIRST WORD THAT SUFFERS
HEARING PAXON LITTLE RUSTY.
OKAY WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT.
PERIOD. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT
TO ADD UP.
WELL I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY
THAT ON THE SEVENTY FIVE MILLION
IS FOCUSED ON BUSES
YEAH AND THE OTHER MONIES WOULD
COME FROM ON AIR FTTP.
OKAY ITEM NUMBER THREE LET'S
TALK ABOUT ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE.
LOTS OF DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY
ALL COMING TOGETHER AT ONCE.
THANK YOU.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO I'M TYSON ACTUALLY AND THE
DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE
AT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF
BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT MORE AFFECTIONATELY
KNOWN AS I GO BECAUSE.
AND SO YOU KNOW WHY ARE WE HERE
UMD OUR ROLE IN THIS WHOLE
PROCESS IS TO IMPLEMENT THE
GOVERNOR'S. VISION ON ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES.
SPECIFICALLY WE I'M FOCUS ON
COORDINATION THROUGH THE IS YOUR
MISSION PEOPLE ACTION PLAN THE
WRITTEN TWENTY SIXTEEN THAT
COORDINATES ALL THE DIFFERENT
STATE AGENCY ACTIONS TO COME
TOGETHER. TO BUILD UP IS YOUR
MISSION VEHICLE MARKET I'M MORE
IN GENERAL WE WORK WITH
BUSINESSES. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
AND STATE AGENCIES TO REMOVE
BARRIERS AND HELP FACILITATE
MARKET GROWTH.
THAT'S A REALLY WITH THIS
INITIATIVE OVER TALKING ABOUT
TODAY IS THAT COMPLETELY THE
FOUNDATION FOR COMPLETE MARKET
TRANSFORMATION.
NOT JUST INCREMENTAL PROGRESS
AND SO THE GOVERNOR'S THAT A NEW
TARGET BY EXECUTIVE ORDER OF
FIVE MILLION SATISFY TWENTY
THIRTY ON THE ROAD. THAT'S A
CHECKPOINT ON THE WAY TO A FULL
THESE AT THE FUTURE HAND IN THAT
FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS ABSOLUTELY
FUNDAMENTAL. TIME IT'S DIRECTLY
LINKED TO VEHICLE UPTAKE I THINK
IT'S INTUITIVE BUT ALSO HAS LOTS
OF STUDIES CONNECTING THE TWO
VARIABLES TOGETHER THAT. WE PUT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CARS
COMES FISHING CALIFORNIA.
I AM SO YOU KNOW WHY THE
GOVERNOR BROWN SET THESE TARGETS
IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND IT
WAS REALLY THE IDEA WAS TO
ORGANIZE AND THAT COULD CREATE A
SHARED VISION AND SOME THAT WE
CAN MEASURE PROGRESS AGAINST. IN
TERMS OF THE AYE HOWARD ROBERT
IN WITH DEPLOYMENT.
SO THE NUMBERS IN THE TARGETS
THAT ARE IN THE GAME AND THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER ORGANIZED AROUND
THE TWENTY TWENTY FIVE GOAL OF
ONE POINT FIVE MILLION SET.
ON THE ROAD AND SO THAT TO THE
TUNE OF FIFTY THOUSAND CHARGERS
INCLUDING TEN THOUSAND DIRECT
CURRENT FAST CHARGERS.
AS WELL AS TWO HUNDRED HYDROGEN
STATIONS.
.
WE NEED THESE SPREAD ACROSS THE
STATE AND SO.
WHERE DO THESE NUMBERS COME FROM
IS IT IS IT IS A GOOD QUESTION?
TIMES HAVE REALLY ON THE HIGHEST
LEVEL OF IT THAT ON THE OF TWO
THINGS IT FALLING AND CHARGING
NUMBERS AND SO THE ENERGY
COMMISSION HAS DONE A GREAT.
DEAL OF ANALYSIS USING A TOOL
CALLED THE DVI PRO THAT THEY
GENERATED TOGETHER WITH THE
NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LAB IN
A B. C. LOOKS AT TRAVEL DEMAND.
TO WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO CHARGE
THROWING A MUCH OF ECONOMICS AND
TRAVEL SURVEY DATA AT.
AND TWO TO FIFTY THOUSAND
CHARGES REPRESENTS CAN IN THE
MID POINT TO SUPPORT OUR ONE
POINT FIVE MILLION ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLE TARGET.
I'M ON THE HYDROGEN SIDE. WE
HAVE THAT GREAT PROGRESS
HAPPENING ALREADY THAT TO
HUNDREDS HYDROGEN STATION NUMBER
PUTS THAT THE MARKET ON THE
PROJECT THREE TO BE ABOUT WERE
HYBRIDS WORK AT TEN YEARS INTO
THEIR MARKET PROGRESS AND SO
THERE. PORTION OF THAT ONE POINT
FIVE MILLION.
IT'S A TODAY IN ON THE HYDROGEN
SO WE HAVE THIRTY TWO OPEN
RETAIL STATIONS IT'S WORTH
NOTING THAT WE'RE THE ONLY
OPENED RETAIL NETWORK IN THE
WORLD THAT'S WHAT I'M. BEST OF
JAPAN AND GERMANY INCREIBLES OF
OTHERS ALONG WITH US FOR THIS IS
A FULLY RETELLS THE THINGS THAT
WE I'M PRETTY AND REALLY WELFARE
ME IF FUNDING. OF TWO HUNDRED
STATIONS THROUGH THE TIME
ALTERNATIVE RENEWABLE VEHICLE
FEELS AND TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM.
AND THE CHARGING SIDE WE HAVE
ABOUT FOURTEEN THOUSAND PUBLIC
CHARGERS ON THE ROAD. AND WITH
PROGRAMS THAT CAN BRING US TO
ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND
CHARGERS.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S
IN THIS THESE PROJECTIONS SO.
WITH THE THIRTY TWO SNEAKING
STORMY SEPARATE THERE WHEN YOU
SEE WE HAVE FOURTEEN THOUSAND
CHARGING STATIONS NOW WE HAVE.
I'M.
PROGRAMS THAT WILL GIVE THIS
TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND IS THAT.
INCLUDING THE VOLKSWAGEN MONEY
INCLUDING THE I USE FOLK FOLKS
THAT ARE DOING IT INCLUDING
CHARGE POINT IN THE PRIVATE
PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IS THAT IS
OR THAT THE CONTRACTS THAT WE
KNOW THAT.
YEAH OTHER COUNTY IS STATE
AGENCIES ARE.
BAG OF GOVERNMENTAL UNITS ARE
DOING THIS AT THE COMBINE NUMBER
THAT'S A COMBINED NUMBER EXACTLY
AS THE NEXT NEXT POINTS RIGHTLY
SAY SORRY SAID NOW YOU GET IT
SHOW US OUT ALL TITLE FITS
TOGETHER YESTERDAY WE HAVE THE
ABA PROGRAM SO WE ARE AT THE TP
THE ENERGY COMMISSION. THAT'S IN
THERE IF THE AYE YOU THE PILOTS
AND ALSO THE THE ANSWER INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITY PILOTS AND S. B.
THREE FIFTY INVESTORS INCLUDES
BOTH INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES
AND PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITIES.
IF THE VW SETTLEMENT MONEY IF
THE ENERGY SETTLEMENT MONEY WE
HAVE MEADOW WHICH IS A
PARTNERSHIP OF THE JAPANESE
GOVERNMENT FEEDING INTO THAT. WE
DON'T HAVE IS THAT WHAT WE KNOW
WHAT CHARGE POINT IS GONNA DO IN
THE FUTURE.
THAT FOR EXAMPLE SO IT'S ALL THE
PUBLIC PROGRAMS.
HOUSTON MONEY WITHIN THE ENERGY
CRISIS WHAT. THAT'S THAT WAS AND
IN OUR GMC OKAY ENERGY
SETTLEMENT.
YEAH.
YES THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND SO.
AND HE'S A REALLY IN IN AND
HYDROGEN PART WE HAVE FUNDING
FOR HUNDREDS HUNDRED STATIONS IF
YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS YOU
KNOW ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THE CHARGERS HUNDRED I DIDN'T
STATES WERE ABOUT HALF WAY WHERE
WE NEED TO GO.
AND SO THEY SEE SEE PROPOSAL ON
THE TABLE IS REALLY TO FILL
THOSE THAT THOSE GAPS.
AND WHAT WE WANT TO YOU KNOW THE
QUESTION THOSE IN THE AGENDA AS
KIND OF AN INTERVIEW
COORDINATION AND AND I THINK ONE
OF DRIVE ON THE POINT THAT.
AND ALL THESE PROGRAMS THAT THEY
THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY
COMING IN FROM THE VARIOUS
SOURCES ANY GETS US IN ABOUT
HALF WE WE NEED TO GO ASSUMING
NO CHANGES TIME.
BUT THEY ALL THE DECISIONS THAT
ARE MADE LIKE WHEN THE ENERGY
COMMISSION IS THAT THEY ALL TAKE
OTHER PROGRAMS INTO ACCOUNTS
EACH INVESTMENT PLAN. HAS A
SECTION ON ALL THE OTHER
INVESTMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN
THERE AND THE GOAL AND WHAT THEY
THINK IT'S HAPPENED IN THE
MARKETPLACE IS TO BE
COMPLIMENTARY OF EACH OTHER AND
SO WORKING TOGETHER. NOT DID WE
DUPLICATE HAVE.
TIME.
THEN YOU KNOW IN THAT YOU
MENTIONED THAT THAT THE OF THE
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE ACTION
PLANS AS REGULAR COORDINATION
THAT HAPPENS THERE WE HAVE
MONTHLY MEETINGS THAT THE
PRINCIPAL LEVEL. TO MAKE SURE
THAT WERE COORDINATED WITH ALL
THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT ALSO
MULTIPLE I'M STAFF MEETINGS TO
KEEP COORDINATION GOING. AND SO
I THINK THAT I AM AND IN TERMS
OF THAT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT
HAPPENING. NOW BUT I REALLY
CAN'T LEADS INTO THE CBC'S
PROGRAM IS WHAT WE SEE THIS EASY
PROGRAM THAT THE IMPORTANT PART
OF IT IS IT'S VERY NIMBLE HAS
BEEN SUPER EFFECTIVE IN GETTING
INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE QUICKLY
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED
NOW IS TO BUILD THAT QUICK.
AT DEVELOPMENT TO GET PEOPLE
EXCITED ABOUT THE MARKETING
COMFORTABLE AT THEM AND THEY GET
INTO THE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
THAT'S THE BEGINNING TO BECAUSE
THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND DON'T
SAY NO BECAUSE THERE ISN'T.
CENTS SO IF I COULD I'D ON JUST
A BIT IN TERMS OF THE ENERGY
COMMISSION ROLE AND SUED THE
PROPOSED PROGRAM BEFORE YOU
ACTUALLY BUILDS UPON AND
CONTINUES THE ENERGY
COMMISSION'S WORK ADMINISTERING
THE ALTERNATIVE AND RENEWABLE.
FUEL AND VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY
PROGRAM WHICH I'M JUST GONNA SAY
OUR IF YOU KEEP YOU FROM NOW. ON
SO BY ESSENTIALLY DOUBLING DOWN
ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO
ACCELERATE THE ADOPTION OF ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES ON THE
PROPOSED PROGRAM IS REALLY SEEN
AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF
CALIFORNIA'S ON CLIMATE CLEAN
AIR STRATEGY. SO TO DATE.
THE ENERGY COMMISSION THROUGH
ITS ADMINISTRATION OF ERA FEE
TP.
HAS SERVED AS CALIFORNIA'S LEAD
A FUNDING AGENCY ON BOTH DVD
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL
AS HYDROGEN FUELING
INFASTRUCTURE FOR CARS. AND
SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND NINE WHEN
WE FIRST STARTED INVESTING IN
THIS SPACE.
WE'VE APPROVED MORE THAN A
SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THREE
MILLION IN AIR ATER TP FUNDING
TOTAL ON MORE SPECIFICALLY WE'VE
PUT EIGHTY MILLION INTO ON
CHARGING STATIONS AND THAT'S
RESULTED IN A LITTLE BIT OVER
SEVENTY SIX HUNDRED CHARGING
STATIONS.
AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED A TOTAL
OF A HUNDRED AND TEN MILLION AND
HYDROGEN FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE
HOME AND THAT'S.
SUPPORTED SIXTY FOUR STATIONS AS
TYSON MENTIONED THIRTY TWO OF
WHICH ARE OPEN FOR RETAIL SALES
AS WE SPEAK. ON SO REALLY OUR
EXPERIENCE INVESTING IN THIS
SPACE HAS CREATED WITHIN OUR
AGENCY A FOUNDATION OF TECHNICAL
EXPERTISE A COLLABORATIVE
PARTNERSHIPS AND.
IN MY OPINION ONE OF THE MORE
IMPORTANT PIECES OF REAL WORLD
EXPERIENCE GETTING LARGE SUMS OF
MONEY OUT INTO. A OUT OF THE
DOOR IN A WAY THAT'S ON THE
QUICK EFFECTIVE AND ALSO
TRANSPARENT. ON YOU KNOW WAS
TYSON MENTIONED THE STATE
INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE IN
ADDITION TO THAT ON UTILITY
INVESTMENT AS WELL AS ON THE
SETTLEMENTS I'M STILL LEAVES US.
WITH A SIGNIFICANT GAP.
AND THIS PROPOSED PRO AND IN
FACT YOU KNOW IF I COULD JUST
SPEAKS A LITTLE BIT SO THAT GAP
ON YOU KNOW ON THAT. ON
INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE WE ESTIMATE
THAT IT ON IS ROUGHLY ONE POINT
TWO TO ONE POINT SIX BILLION
DOLLARS. ON SIMILARLY THE
REMAINING ON HUNDRED RT FIVE
HYDROGEN FUELING STATIONS NEEDED
ON TO HIT TWO HUNDRED WOULD
ROUGHLY REQUIRE BETWEEN THREE
HUNDRED AND FORTY AND THREE HOT
ON FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY
MILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO THIS PROPOSED PROGRAM
REALLY A OBVIOUSLY IS NOT THAT
FULL NOW AND IT'S DESIGNED TO
LEVERAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
REALLY TO ENCLOSE THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE GAP AND. THE
ENERGY COMMISSION ACTUALLY HAS
QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE
LEVERAGING PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
YOU KNOW.
FOR IT IN THE EEVEE
INFRASTRUCTURE SPACE FOR EVERY
DOLLAR THAT WE'VE SPENT
HISTORICALLY WE'VE ON AVERAGE A
ON AVERAGE BEEN ABLE TO GET TWO
TO THREE DOLLARS OF PRIVATE
INVESTMENT. ON TO GO TOWARDS
THOSE STATIONS AND SO WE DO
THINK THAT BEING BY BY
LEVERAGING PUBLIC DOLLARS TO GET
PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN. ON THAT
THIS STRONG INVESTMENT WILL
REALLY HELP US SOLIDIFY THE
MARKET CERTAINTY THAT ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES AND THE
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. ON AND
IT'LL ENCOURAGE TECHNOLOGY
INVALID ADVANCEMENT ON AS WELL
TO HELP US MEET OUR FAIRLY
AMBITIOUS GOALS.
IF YOU ARE.
WE ARE.
HE'D.
SEVEN YEARS SOMETHING THAT'S
GOING TO BE.
THIS A BIG ASTERISK.
SEC. SOLIDLY.
DR.
YEAH ALSO BY DOUBLING DOWN
SPECIFICALLY ON ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE A FEW
PROJECT TYPES THAT HAVE
HISTORICALLY BEEN FUNDED THROUGH
THE ARAB VTP. WILL EITHER BE
FUNDED THROUGH OTHER PROGRAMS OR
WILL NO LONGER SEE I'M UNDER
THIS PROPOSAL RECEIVE LONG TERM
SUPPORT. AND SALAMI GIVE YOU
ONLY RENTED THAT THROUGH THAT
FOR YOU.
SO PROJECTS THAT I'M
HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN AIMED AT
LOW CARBON FUEL PRODUCTION
SERVICES IN STATE BIODIESEL NON
RENEWABLE DIESEL RENEWABLE
NATURAL GAS ETHANOL AND THESE
WILL NOT.
BE SUPPORTED AND.
FISCAL YEAR EIGHTEEN NINETEEN
ON THROUGH ONE TIME FUNDING FROM
THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
FUND.
BUT WILL NOT RECEIVE AIR FTTP
FUNDING LONGER TERM UNDER THIS
PROPOSAL.
HOWEVER WITHOUT THIS FUNDING
AYE IN STATE FEEL PODUCERS WILL
STILL HAVE ACCESS TO ON THE
PRODUCTION INCENTIVES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE BOTH THROUGH THE. LAN
LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD AS WELL
AS THE FEDERAL ON RENEWABLE FUEL
STANDARD.
THE OTHER CATEGORY OF PROJECT
TYPES IS ALTERNATIVE FUEL
VEHICLES. SO THE AIR A FEW GP
HAS X. HISTORICALLY DEDICATED
SOME OF ITS FUNDING SUPPORT ON.
AND I TO ALTERNATIVE FUEL
VEHICLES ON SPECIFICALLY WE'VE
SUPPORTED THE DEMONSTRATION OF
ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY TRUCKS AND
BUSES. OF WHICH WILL NO LONGER
BE SUPPORTED HOWEVER MANY OF
THESE ON LARGER DEMONSTRATION
EFFORTS ON CAN BE OFF FUNDED
UNDER PROGRAMS ON THAT ARE
ADMINISTERED THROUGH CARB. AMONG
THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE THE.
HYBRID IS YOUR MISSION TRUCK
AND BUS A VOUCHER INCENTIVE
PROGRAM WHICH.
AS PART OF THAT THEY DO SUPPORT
LOW KNOCKS ON ENGINE INCENTIVES
ON CARL MOYER AND ON SOME OF THE
LOW CARBON TRANSPORTATION
PROGRAMS THAT ARE PART OF THIS
ON. THE SIX THIS YEAR'S
EXPENDITURE PLAN FOR GREENHOUSE
GAS REDUCTION FUNDS.
ANOTHER CATEGORY OF NOTE ON
THAT WAS HISTORICALLY FUNDED TO
AIR FTTP IS A CATEGORY THAT WE
CALLED EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES
THIS WOULD NOT BE.
PART OF THE.
FUNDING PRIORITIES MOVING
FORWARD ON.
THIS CATEGORY HAS HISTORICALLY
SUPPORTED ON A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT THINGS.
MOST NOTABLE ON IT WAS THAT
PROVIDED FLEXIBILITY FOR US TO
BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE FEDERAL COST
SHARING OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY
AROSE. ON AND ALSO SOME RESEARCH
AND HYDROGEN SAFETY AND NATURAL
GAS RESEARCH AS WELL.
AND THEN THE LAST CATEGORY.
WHO WOULD PICK UP THAT RESEARCH
OPPORTUNITIES IF?
PRAY TELL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
HAD A PROGRAM THAT YOU COULD YOU
COULD.
LEVERAGE.
BUT THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT
WAS OUT THERE IF THE IF WE'RE
NOT GOING TO HAVE.
THIS EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES.
YES SOME OF THOSE EXISTED.
PRIVATE THING TAKES.
YEAH I MEAN THAT BERMAN OF
ENERGY TO DATE HAS BEEN PRETTY
THEY'RE FINDING WAYS TO FUNNEL
MONEY INTO THINKING HYDROGEN AS
SAFETY FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE THE
SAME GRADE AS.
WHICH I SHOULD LOOK I KNOW I
DON'T KNOW THAT ACRONYM ACTUALLY
MEANS BUT IT'S A CONNECTS WITH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE STATE
GOVERNMENT WORKING ON THESE
ISSUES ON THE HYDROGEN SIDE.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER
EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES THAT.
TIME YOU TO SUCCESSFULLY FOUND.
HOW WAYS TO KEEP THAT GOING WITH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
THERE MAY ALSO BE.
DEPENDING ON THE THE AND AGAIN
THIS HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN ADDED
FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD A BIT
OF A GRAB BAG.
YOU KNOW IT WAS REALLY A
MOVEMENT TO PROVIDE US
FLEXIBILITY SO DEPENDING ON THE
NATURE OF THE PROGRAM IF IT'S
MORE RESEARCH FOCUS. COULD
POTENTIALLY BE COVERED BY THE
STRATEGIC GROWTH COUNCIL'S
RESEARCH PROGRAM AS PART OF THE
EXPENDITURE PLAN.
FOR GIGI R. F. THERE'S MORE
FUNDING FOR THAT WILL DEAL WITH
THAT IN A MINUTE OKAY. BUTTON
AND THEN THE LAST CATEGORY OF
NOTE IS WORKFORCE TRAINING IN
MANUFACTURING. AND SEWER
PROJECTS THAT WERE HISTORICALLY
FUNDED UNDER THESE ON PARTICULAR
MANUFACTURING ON CATEGORIES.
WILL BE SUPPORTED UNDER OTHER
PROGRAMS HOWEVER WORK TO THE
EXTENT THAT WORKFORCE TRAINING
AND MANUFACTURING ON IS AIMED AT
ENGAGING PRIVATE INVESTMENT
SPECIFICALLY IN ZERO MISSION
INFRASTRUCTURE DEPLOYMENT. AND
THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED MOVING
FORWARD.
BUT OPPONENTS WITH WORDS IN YOUR
MOUTH ON THE OUTCOMES BAD
THAT-WE WILL HAVE. ABANDON THESE
FOUR
CATEGORIES THAT YOU JUST TALKED
ABOUT HER OR SHIFT THEM OR DE
EMPHASIZE THEM BUT THE OUTCOME
THE DESIRED OUTCOME AND TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE IS.
FIVE MILLION FOUR FIVE MILLION
BY TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AS A FIVE
MILLION BY MID TWENTY TH ONE
POINT FIVE BY TWENTY TWENTY FIVE
ONE POINT FIVE MILLION. ZEPPS ON
THE ROAD.
AND YOU THINK THAT THIS.
THIS'LL DO IT.
YES COUPLED WITH THEIR CV R. P..
RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT OF ALL THE
OTHER THINGS THIS IS THE BUDGET.
REQUEST OKAY. MEMBERS
QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
BY THE. THAT ESPINA.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FINANCING
ONLY ON THE ALLEY ó HAD A HOUR.
YOU WANNA ASK QUESTION WE DO GO
AHEAD HOLD LET'S HAVE THE LA
SHOW YOU HAD COME.
A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AFTER IN
DIRECTION.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN
SENATORS.
I'M BRIAN MELINDA'S WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE.
BUT DURING OUR COMMENTS I WILL
BE REFERRING TO SOME FIGURES
FROM OUR AND RESOURCES AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION REPORT
WHICH SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED YOU.
I'LL. OTHER SECTION ON THIS
PROPOSAL BEGINS ON PAGE SIXTY
ONE FEE REFERENCE.
OUR MAIN OBJECTIVES ARE WITH
REGARD TO ARE COMMENTS ON THE
ADMINISTRATION'S ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLE OR RESERVE
INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSAL. OR TO
EMPHASIZE THAT THIS PROPOSAL
REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT
IN THE FUNDING STRUCTURE FOR
VARIOUS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
AND OUR CALLER RELATED PROGRAMS.
THAT RAISES IMPORTANT POLICY
QUESTIONS ARE ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT.
ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSALS ABOUT
IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE BELIEVE
THE LEGISLATURE. WILL NOT WANT
TO OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION ON
FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. AND
HIGHLIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION
WHETHER KEY COMPONENTS OF THE
PROPOSAL.
ALIGNED WITH LEGISLATIVE
PRIORITIES.
BUT BASED ON THOSE OBJECTIVES WE
HAVE THREE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS
FOR THE LEGISLATURE WITH REGARD
TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S
PROPOSAL.
BUT FIRST WE RECOMMEND THE
LEGISLATURE DIRECTLY
ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE MORE
INFORMATION TO ENABLE IT TO
PROPERLY EVALUATE THE MERITS OF
THE PROPOSAL SPECIFICALLY.
RECOMMENDED THE LEGISLATURE
REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
ABOUT HOW.
THE FUNDING WOULD AFFECT KEY
POLICY OUTCOMES SUCH AS FOR
EXAMPLE OF THE LOVE THE EXACT
LEVEL OF.
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAT
WILL BE AFFECTED.
ITS ASSESSMENT OF POTENTIAL
RISKS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE
ABSENCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
A MORE DETAILED JUSTIFICATION
FOR THE ABOUT THE FUNDING
REQUESTED FOR IS UP.
INFRASTRUCTURE AND A PLAN FOR
EVALUATING OUTCOMES AFTER THE
PROGRAM BEGINS IMPLEMENTATION.
SECOND WE RECOMMEND IT TO BEFORE
YOU GO ON CAN YOU.
HIGHLIGHT FOR SOME OF THESE
POTENTIAL.
.
RISKING COSTS ASSOCIATED BECAUSE
YOU KNOW THE THE RISK.
A LOT OF US WOULD JUST THINK GO
WE'RE GOING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES
IT'S ALL GOOD DON'T THINK ABOUT
THE RISKS THAT ARE ARE.
A SHIFT IN THIS POLICY WE THINK
IT'S GOOD LET'S GET OFF OF
FOSSIL FUELS.
YES MISTER.
.
BRUTALLY NOTES THAT.
THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL RISK
TO CONSIDER OF FOR EXAMPLE.
O. SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN JOBS
COULD.
SUGGEST WE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
GAS TAX REVENUE THAT THE STATE
RECEIVES.
EVEN OFFSETTING THE ADDITIONAL
CHARGES ON ON SUBS THAT TIME
HAVE RECENTLY BEEN APPLIED.
THERE'S ALSO A POTENTIAL FOR.
OF MORE CHANCES FOR GRID
OPERATORS TO BALANCE THE GRID
DEPENDING ON WHEN THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE OWNERS CHOOSE THE CHARGE
THEIR VEHICLES.
OTHERS ARE JUST SOME OF THE.
ISSUES TO CONSIDER AND WHETHER
ANY OF THE DIGITAL POLICIES
MIGHT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED BUT
SHOULD THE LEGISLATURE CHOOSE
TO.
SUPPORT THIS. PROPOSAL.
BROWN
BUT.
GOING BACK GARDEN TO THE THE
THIRD RECOMMENDATION.
WE RECOMMEND THE LEGISLATURE
CONSIDER WHETHER THE
ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TO USE
VERY SPECIAL FUNDS AND REPAIR
FUNDS.
ARCH SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.
IS CONSISTENT WITH ITS OWN
PRIORITIES.
UP WE FIND THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL RACES
KEY POLICY QUESTIONS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE WILL WANT TO
CONSIDER BEFORE ALLOCATING
ADDITIONAL FUNDING SUCH AS.
THE COST EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS
TYPE OF INITIATIVE COMPARED TO
OTHER EMISSIONS REDUCTION
PROGRAMS ESPECIALLY GIVEN.
THE FACT OF THIS PROPOSAL IS
DIRECTED AT EMISSIONS SOURCE
WHICH IS CURRENTLY COVERED UNDER
THE STATE'S CAP AND TRADE
SYSTEM.
WE ALSO FIND THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT PROVIDED
A DETAILED JUSTIFICATION.
FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE SPECIFIC
AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL.
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING.
WHILE.
THE MISSION HAS PROVIDED TO ALL
OF OUR OFFICE A SUMMARY OF THE
GAP ANALYSIS BUT IT USED.
AS THE BASIS FOR THE TOTAL
ESTIMATED AMOUNT THE FUNDING
NEEDED TO SUPPORT ITS GOAL. OF A
SUMMER IN WHICH I CAN BE FOUND
ON FIGURE TWENTY THREE ON PAGE
SIXTY FIVE OF OUR REPORT.
IT HAS NOT UP PROVIDED A
DETAILED. INFORMATION ABOUT HOW
IT CONDUCTED IN IT THAT'S
ANALYSIS INCLUDING MODELING
METHODS.
DATA AND ASSUMPTIONS.
MOREOVER WE FIND THAT THE
INFORMATION THE INITIATION I
SUBMITTED ON ITS PLANS TO
EVALUATE OUTCOMES FROM ITS
PROPOSAL AFTER THE
IMPLEMENTATION BEGINS. LACKS
ROBUST DETAILS ON BY THE
EVALUATION METHODOLOGY AS WELL
AS DETAILS ON ITS PLANS TO
ASSESS THE EFFECT.
BY THE FUNDING WOULD HAVE ON THE
CALL TOTAL NUMBER OF STEPS IN
THE STATE.
WE FURTHER FIND THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT HAVE.
AN. OVER ARCHING STRATEGIC PLAN
FOR CORDONING THE OF FUNDING
SPECIFICALLY.
FOR THE VARIOUS STATE PROGRAMS
THAT WERE MENTIONED. OF A FIGURE
TRULY WANTED PETE SIXTY TWO OF
OUR REPORT SHOWS THAT THE STATE
CURRENTLY HAS.
.
AS AS WAS MENTIONED BY THE
DEPARTMENT FINANCE A WIDE ARRAY
OF SUB INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS
WITH BUDGETS RANGING FROM THE
LOW MILLIONS TO. THE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND
FACILITATED BY OF VARIOUS
DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
GIVEN THIS MASSIVE MULTI AGENCY
EFFORT WE BELIEVE IT IS
IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DETAILED
PLAN. BY DESCRIBING HOW THE
FUNDING FOR VARIOUS STATE
PROGRAMS WOULD BE TARGETED TO
THE HIGHEST PRIORITY LOCATIONS.
AND TECHNOLOGY IS TAKING TO
ACCOUNT OTHER SOURCES OF PUBLIC
AND PRIVATE FUNDING.
THE AND FINALLY WE FIND THAT THE
COMMISSION'S PLAN UP PRIORITIZES
FUNDING FOR ZYBAN FOR STRUCTURE
OVER OTHER POTENTIAL USES.
A FIGURE TWENTY TWO OE PAID
SIXTY THREE OF OUR REPORTS OF
HOW.
THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL
WHICH SHIFT ALL OF THE HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLAR A A ARE LEFT BTF.
ALLOCATION TO THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE ELLIS NOTED
EARLIER WHAT THE CHAIR. AND AWAY
FROM VARIOUS OTHER CLEAN OF.
THE VEHICLE PROGRAMS IT
CURRENTLY FUNDS WE WOULD ALSO
NOTE THAT THE PROPOSAL'S
SUBSTANTIVE MILLION DOLLARS. IN
ONE TIME FUND BALANCES FROM THE
A. RFE TF AS WELL AS THE AIR
QUALITY IMPROVEMENT FUND.
A AS AND A RE DIRECTS ON SPENT
RATE PAIR FUNDS FROM THE
EXPLORING NEW SOLAR HOMES
PARTNERSHIP THROUGH THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE.
WE BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE WILL
WANT TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE
SHIPS ARE ALIGNED. WITH ITS
PRIORITIES OR WHETHER.
IT PREFERS A DIFFERENT APPROACH
TO FUNDING.
.
A PARTICULAR INITIATIVE.
THIS CONCLUDES OUR REMARKS I'M
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS.
SO IF WE JUMP TO PAGE SIXTY FIVE
FROM YOUR REPORT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THE LEAST THE
REPORT FOR THE PRESENTATION I
GOT FROM THE ENERGY COMMISSION
IS THAT THEY'VE AGREED THAT
THERE'S STILL A GAP.
EVEN WITH ALL EVEN WITH MOVE IN
THE SEVENTY MILLION OVER AND THE
SEVENTY SEVEN MILLION OVER AND
AND THE MARKET MECHANISM FROM
CAP AND TRADE SUCH AS IT IS.
WE'RE STILL. WE'RE STILL GOING
TO BE.
A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED AND
FOTY SIX THOUSAND.
ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS
SHORT OF WHAT THEY THINK THAT
THE NEEDS GOOD TO BE.
.
SO ISN'T IT OF IT'S OF VALUE
JUDGMENT THAT. COULD YOU
DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I MEAN THAT BIG QUESTION IS DOES
THE LEGISLATURE ONE ABANDONED OR
DE EMPHASIZE SOME OF THESE
OTHERS PIC WITH THE STEP PROGRAM
THAT. THAT'S CLEAR LOOKING WE
GET WE GOT THAT POINT BUT EVEN
IF WE EVEN IF WE LIKE THESE
OTHER PROGRAMS I THINK THAT
THERE'S VALUE IN.
SUBSIDIZING THEM ARE HAVING
THAT GUIDE THE STATE BE A PLAYER
THEY'RE STILL SHORTAGE NOW WE
CAN ASK THEM WHY THEY'RE THERE
STILL COULD BE SURE BUT THEY
DON'T DISAGREED THAT THEY'RE
SHORT RIGHT. I DON'T SEE THAT
THERE'S.
.
AND IF IT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS
IS THAT.
IF THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GASES AND THEY
PUTTING ALL THE EGGS IN THIS
BASKET AND THIS.
TECHNOLOGY IT IN ORDER TO MAKE
TO CREATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE
BECAUSE ONE OF THE AND ZIP ON
THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
.
WHY SHOULD WE NOT LIKE GIVE THEM
THIS FIRST STEP TODO EIGHT IN
AND HAVE THEM COME BACK SOMETIME
BEEN TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY
TWENTY THREE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
AND AND FILL IN THE BLANKS ON
WHAT THE? HELL THE GAP IS
THERE'S IT'S STILL A HUNDRED AND
FORTY SIX THOUSAND STATIONS.
SHORT.
IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.
YES MISTER CHAIRMAN BE YOUR JOB
IS FOR IT TO RAISE QUESTIONS YOU
DID A GOOD JOB RAIN.
CALM.
WILL. A WE CERTAINLY AGREE WITH
THE THE CHAIR IN.
THE DESIRE TO HAVE A.
EVALUATION METHOD FOR SEEING
WHAT THE EFFECT IS SHOULD THE
LEGISLATURE CHOOSE TO.
SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.
AND WE WENT.
WOULD NOT THAT WE ARE RECOMMEND
HAVING.
UP MORE DETAILS.
PLAN FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON
EXACTLY HOW ITS GOING TO BE
EVALUATING THE OUTCOMES OF THIS.
INITIATIVE BUT AND THIS IS THIS
IS IN A A SYMPHONY THAT'S BEEN
PULLED TOGETHER AND THEY'RE
BRINGING IN MORE PLAYERS THAT TO
DO IT IN HOUSE HOUSE MAESTRO
GOOD WORK HERE AS WE AS WE LOOK
AT. YOU KNOW I MEAN WE STILL
HAVE ENRON MONEY FOR GOD SAKES
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH
AND AND I'VE HEARD STORIES THAT
THAT.
THEY WON'T DON'T WANNA IT'S SO
HARD GETTING A PLACEMENT WHERE
PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE YOU KNOW IS
FINDING SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE
GONNA GIVE THE MONEY AWAY AND
THEY ON'T WANT TO TAKE THE
ELECTRIC. CHARGING STATIONS
BECAUSE WERE UNDER SOME YOU
DON'T NINETEEN EIGHTY MENTALITY
ABOUT THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING
TO BE AND YOU CAN ONLY USE IT
FOR THIS.
BET AND IT JUST SEEMS NINETY.
IT'S IT'S VERY VERY FRUSTRATING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS AN ALLEY FROM
ALEJO.
BUT NO MISTER SCHECK.
OKAY.
SENATE MCGUIRE.
TWO QUICK QUESTIONS IN VERY
QUICK AYE I THINK AS WE ROLL OUT
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A
SIGNIFICANT NAME THE ONLY WAY
WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO
ACCOMPLISH RG SHE REDUCTION
GOALS GOING OFF THE AUTOMOBILE
AND. PATROLLING RECENT STATE BUT
AT WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES
THAT ARE INVOLVED YOU TOUCHED ON
THIS A BIT. SO. AS WE MOVE
FORWARD WHO IS THE LEAD AGENCY
WHO IS COORDINATING ALL EFFORTS.
WITH ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES AND
IS THERE A STANDARD SET OF
GUIDELINES IN EACH DEPARTMENT.
ARE ON WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE
TO BE OF SECURE THE FUNDS.
SO IN TERMS OF LEADING THE
EFFORT I THINK THAT WOULD SAY
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF BUSINESS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEADING
THE IMPLEMENTATION AND
COORDINATION RIGHT AND SIT WITH.
P. YOU SEE WITH D. EXACTLY WITH
ME SO YOU ARE NAY AT THE SAME
FOLKS BUT WE DON'T BE A FINALLY
I MEAN AMPLIFIER IT IS THAT WE
NEED AT ALL EVERYBODY AND ALL
THEIR. ASSETS AND RESOURCES
MOVING TO MAKE THIS WORK.
IT'S OUR JOB IS TO BE THAT
CENTRAL POINT IN SEPARATELY PARA
WRONG I THINK IT.
BASED ON THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES
BUT OBVIOUSLY FOR EXAMPLE DDS IS
LOOKING INTERNALLY VERSUS MOST
AGENCIES ARE LOOKING EXTERNALLY
THERE ARE DIFFERENT GUIDELINES
SPEAR SECURE THE FUNDS.
SO HOW TO BE A STREAM NINE
STREAMLINED THE PROCESS IS THE
CHAIR WAS JUST MENTIONING AS
WELL COULD THINK THAT'S.
I CHALLENGES WE MOVE FORWARD TO
BE A TO MAXIMIZE THAT THE
DOLLARS IN TIMELINE BEER TO GET
THESE PUPPIES IMPLEMENTED
CORRECTLY THOSE EXACTLY RIGHT
CAN TOUCH BASE ON THAT AND AND
HOW THAT'S WORKING INTERNALLY.
YET SO IT'S. REALLY GONNA GET
SOME OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS RIGHT
IF YOU LOOK AT THE INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITY PROGRAMS WORK IN
TGS TO HAVE A STANDARD CONTRACT
ACROSS ALL STATE AGENCIES SO
IT'S EASY TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT
THOSE FUNDS. WERE SUPPOSED
CHARTERS RIGHT NOW THE ISSUES
COME UP THINK WITHOUT RIGHT OF
WAY IN ENTITLEMENT WHERE YOU
KNOW EACH AGENCY IS A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT APPROACH RIGHT SORRY.
THAT'S YOU KNOW ONE EXAMPLE
INVENTORS OF ENERGY COMMISSION
AND THEY PARTNERED WITH CALTRANS
HEAVILY YOU KNOW CALTRANS IS A
LOT OF GREAT I'M ASSETS IN TERMS
OF LAND THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED AB
DO THIS.
I'M AND SO I THINK THERE'S IT'S
IT'S WORK IN PROGRESS I MEAN I
THINK ALL DAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TAKE THE
FRICTION OUT OF THE SYSTEM
ANYWHERE WE CAN BRAINS I THINK
WITH IT AND RUN SETTLEMENT THE
AND ENERGY THAT WE'VE BEEN
WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE V. GOES
IMPLEMENTING THAT TO HELP
IDENTIFY SITES AND ENDS MUSING
STATE PROPERTY SIDE EFFECT GET
THAT YOUR. QUESTION OR NOT BUT I
THINK ANY WELL LAID PLAN RIGHT
EVERYONE NEEDS A BIT OF MARCH
FOR TO GET THE SITE ANSWER
TIMELINE I TO BE OF THE GET
EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE YEAH.
I THINK PART OF THE SUIT WITH
THE EXECUTIVE ORDER ALSO LAID
OUT AS AN UPDATE FOR THE ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLE ACTION PLAN.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH
THAT IN THE NEAR TERM IS THAT
MAY HAVE A HIGH LEVEL PRIORITIES
FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN IN THAT.
AT LONGER TERM I THINK THAT YOU
KNOW MORE ME COMES ON THOSE
BONES AND I THINK PART OF IT
THINK THE ENERGY COMMISSION
DISTANT THEIR. THEIR YOU KNOW
WITH THEIR INVESTMENT PLANS IN
THEIR BEST A PLANNING PROCESS
THAT HELPS BRIGHT THIS
CONVERSATION FORD ALSO BUT
THEY'LL BE THE OVER ARCHING.
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE ACTION
PLAN UPDATE THAT WILL ADDRESS A
LOT OF THESE IN TIMELINE IS WHAT
AND APOLOGIZE OPPOSED IT NEAR
TERMINATE WITH THIS
ADMINISTRATION HERE WE HAVE WE
HAVE. INTO THEN THE YEARS OR
TRYING TO GET THAT THE FIRST
UPDATE YOU KNOW AND MARCH APRIL
MAY.
I GUESS MARSHMALLOW NERVOUS
SEVERITY IN MARCH BUT WE. PUT IT
IT'S WE WANNA YESTERDAY.
LET'S OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING
ANYBODY. FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE A
COMMENT ON STEPS.
AND INFRASTRUCTURE STATE SHOULD
BE DOUBLING DOWN
ON ITS COMMITMENT TO ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES BUT IF WE'RE
GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL EFFORT
THEN WE REALLY WILL NEED A MUCH
MORE ROBUST. NETWORK OF EVEY
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
.
WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE GENERALLY
OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION'S INVESTMENT PLAN IS
GOING IN.
BUT THE AB ONE EIGHTEEN PROGRAM.
WE'D LIKE TO SAY THAT SEE
SEIZED ON A FANTASTIC JOB OF
THIS PROGRAM WERE STILL
REVIEWING MORE IN DEPTH SO ONE
THING WE WOULD LIKE TO
UNDERSCORE FOR THE COMMITTEE'S
CONSIDERATION. IS THAT IF WE'RE
GOING TO BE INVESTING SO MUCH
FUNDING INTO EVEY CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. THEN A PORTION
OF THESE FUNDS SHOULD GO TO
MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY ALEXIAD
VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S A
PIECE OF THE PUZZLE PUZZLE.
EVEY CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR MEDIUM HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES
IS ALSO A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK.
YET FLEET OPERATORS ARE LOOKING
TO SCALE UP ON THEIR USE OF ZERO
EMISSION BUSES AND ZERO MISSION
TRUCKS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
SO WE REALLY NEED SOME FUNDING
CAN HELP WITH THAT WE THINK IN
THIS NEXT
FUNDING YEAR TEN TO FIFTEEN
MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE AN
APPROPRIATE START TO GET THAT
STARTED THANK YOU.
I WAS CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SENATOR NIELSEN A QUESTION.
YEAH TEN LIST COULD YOU COMMENT
ON THAT.
WHERE WERE AT AND MAYBE I'D LIKE
TO ASK YOU FOLKS TO DO WITH IT?
CALTRANS CHARGING STATIONS AND
THEN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE
UNLIKE MAYBE IF AND TEN MAYBE
HAVE THAT ANALYST COMMENT.
IN TERMS OF THE PROGRESS WITH
THE. GAS AND IS IT GOING TO BE
DUPLICATION DO WE NEED TO DO
BOTH.
YES I THINK ALL THESE PIECES FIT
TOGETHER CIVIC CALTRANS
SPECIFICALLY IS TARGETING SITES
THAT THE PRIVATE MARKET WOULDN'T
GO AFTER TO DEVELOP RIGHTS IT'S
THAT FILLING IN THOSE KEY.
CONNECTOR PARTS THAT WERE THERE
ISN'T A BUSINESS CASE YET
BECAUSE THE VOLUMES ARE TOO LOW
WHERE THIS TRAVELING BUT.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT HAVE THOSE
CHARGES THERE SO THAT PEOPLE GET
INTO THE CARS.
YOU KNOW THEY CAN GO TO. YOU
KNOW GRANDMA'S FOR EXAMPLE WHEN
THEY. WANT TO THAT THAT THE
TARGET OF THE CALTRANS PROJECT
BUT DO YOU HAVE A.
OVERALL TARGET ON THE NUMBER OF
VEHICLES THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE
THEM. UTILIZING.
ELECTRIC BIKES SOMEDAY DESERVE
TARGETS MEMBERS TO THE THEY THEY
ALL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE
ORGANIZED AROUND ONE AND A HALF
MILLION.
THAT'S ON THE ROAD BY TWENTY
TWENTY FIVE.
AND SO THE.
AND THEN THEY HAVE A GEOSPATIAL
MODEL THAT'S ACTUALLY LOOKING AT
WHERE THOSE STATIONS THE TO GO
BASED ON TRAVEL BEHAVIORS.
NOW.
COULD YOU COMMENT ON THIS.
WHAT YOU'RE TAKE NEED YOU THINK
IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A PROGRAM
THAT WILL WORK FOR US? UNDER THE
CALTRANS SPECIFICALLY UNDER
DIRECT.
.
I DO NOT OR AT THE.
AT THIS MOMENT HAVE SPECIFIC
INFORMATION ON THE EXACT
PROGRESS OF THE CALTRANS.
.
PROGRAM FOR RESERVE
INFRASTRUCTURE ARE. HAPPY TO
WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND WITH
THE. ENERGY COMMISSION.
OR THE OR CALTRANS TO.
.
GET MORE INFORMATION TO SENATOR.
WELL ANY GAS TAX
MONEY.
BE DIRECTED.
TO THESE PURPOSES ANY GAS TAX.
NO NO.
THROUGH THIS PROGRAM IT'S IN A
TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS FOR.
THIRTY STATIONS RD ONE STATION
SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S
RIGHT.
THAT'S THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT.
THAT THE CALTRANS PIECE FOR THE
CALTRANS IT WILL LEAD TO SOME
THE GAS TAX WILL BE USED FOR
CALTRANS CHARGING STATIONS.
YOU KNOW I THINK.
FIVE TO GET BACK I'M NOT EXACTLY
SURE THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING.
I MET WITH MY APOLOGIES BUT IT.
THAT'S A SENSITIVE ISSUE YES.
PEOPLE WERE TOLD THIS IS GOING
TO GO IN THE STREETS ROADS AND
HIGHWAYS.
ALREADY SOME IS NOT.
GOING INDUSTRY ROADS AND
HIGHWAYS IT'S SHOP ON TWITTER
IT'S SHOP. YEAH THREE THAT'S THE
RUB OKAY.
BUT YOU GUYS CITY AND IS YOU
WILL HAVE. CALTRANS UP HERE.
FIVE.
BOB.
THANK YOU. THAT'S PRETTY OPEN
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YEAH WE HAD PUBLIC HEARING THANK
YOU ALRIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO
THE I AM THE SENATE OFFICE OF
RESEARCH IS THIS ISSUE NUMBER
FOUR.
WE'VE GOT
STATE FUNDED RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM A SEGUE.
WHEN THE RESEARCH IS NOT BEING
DONE WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENERGY. OF
GOOD MORNING.
OR SEEM NOT TO BE DONE.
THAT'S REPORT ALRIGHT.
THIS IS FRANCINE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
FOR INTERLOCUTORS NIELSEN AYE
MCGUIRE MY NAME IS PAUL JACOBSON
FROM THE VERY OWN SENATE OFFICE
RESEARCH I'M JOINED TODAY BY MY
COLLEAGUE DR JULIANNE THE CALL.
.
AS YOU REQUESTED WE INVESTIGATED
WAYS TO.
OPTIMIZED PUBLIC RESEARCH OF
PUBLIC BENEFITS FROM STATE
FUNDED RESEARCH PROGRAMS. WE DID
THAT BY CONDUCTING EXTENSIVE
RESEARCH LITERATURE REVIEW AND
INTERVIEWING DOZENS OF
RESEARCHERS AND ADMINISTRATIVE
LEADERS FROM TWENTY ONE
DIFFERENT. ENERGY RELATED I'M
RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS.
THOSE INCLUDED.
.
NASA AND DEPART ENERGY FEDERAL
LABORATORIES NATIONAL CABS
SCIENCE DARPA AND MANY OF OUR
CALIFORNIA BASED UNIVERSITIES
AND OUR VERY OWN STATE AGENCIES
THAT CONDUCT ENERGY RESEARCH.
OUR APPROACH WAS NOT TO
NECESSARILY TAKE A DEEP DIVE
INTO ONE PARTICULAR PROGRAM BUT
WE WANTED A SURVEY. AS MANY
EXPERTS IN A WIDE RANGING FIELDS
WE COULD AND BRING THOSE LESSONS
AND BEST PRACTICES.
UP HERE TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO
YOU.
I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE
ASPECT OF OUR APPROACH PALM IN
OUR REPORT WHICH I THINK THE
SERGEANT HANDED OUT TO YOU ON
PAGE TWO FIGURE TO.
WE RELEASE STATE FOCUSED ON THE
PUBLIC BENEFITS OF RESEARCH
AND THIS GRAPHIC YOUR SHOWS A
LITTLE DIAGRAM OF WHAT WE'RE
REFERRING TO A TALK BY THE
PUBLIC BENEFITS.
THINGS SUCH AS INNOVATIVE
TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGHS
DEVELOPING A SKILLED WORKFORCE
FOR CALIFORNIA AND HAVING AND
CREATING NEW FIRMS RESEARCH
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO
FOCUS ON ONE DEVELOPING OUR
CONCLUSIONS.
FROM FROM YOUR REQUEST.
OUR CONCLUSIONS CAN BE
SUMMARIZED IN A TWO GENERAL
AREAS FIRST OF ALL WE DETERMINE
THAT THERE ARE NINE KEY
PRINCIPLES. THAT SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED WHEN TRYING TO
OPTIMIZE PUBLIC BENEFITS FROM
RESEARCH WE HOPE THAT OUR KEY
PRINCIPLES CAN BE USED A A KIND
OF A HIGH LEVEL FRAMEWORK. WITH
THE LEGISLATURE EITHER WANTS TO.
A CREATE A NEW RESEARCH PROGRAM
OR ASSESS OR RECONFIGURING
EXISTING STATE RESEARCH PROGRAM.
WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE NEXT
STEP FURTHER AND THINK ABOUT HOW
CAN THESE KEY PRINCIPLES BE
IMPLEMENTED AND SO WE EXPLORED.
A RESEARCH PROGRAM STRUCTURE AND
WE DISCOVER THAT THERE ARE SOME
ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS OF RESEARCH
PROGRAM THEIR ESSENTIAL BUT
THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF.
SPECIALIZED SERVICES AND SKILLS
AND CULTURE THAT ARE REQUIRED
THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO RESEARCH
PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AND WE DO
HAVE CURRENT ENTITIES IN THE
STATES. THAT ARE WELL SUITED TO
PERFORM GUIDANCE AND
ADMINISTRATION OF RESEARCH
PROGRAMS.
IN ADDITION AS YOU REQUESTED WE
TOOK A DEEPER DIVE IN MORE
DETAIL DIVE INTO RESEARCH
CONTRACTING AND AND LOOK FOR
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT THE STATE.
AND WE PROVIDE THAT AND OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THOSE
ISSUES AS AN APPENDIX TO REPORT.
AND RIGHT NOW LIKE SIR JULIEN
WHOSE GONNA CUT OF GO OVER OUR
KEY PRINCIPLE.
AS PAUL MENIONED I'M JULIA
MCCALL'S WITH THE SENATE OFFICE
OF RESEARCH AND IT'S TRULY
PRIVILEGED VILLAGE SHARE FINING
CITY TODAY.
I'M F YOU'D LIKE TO FOLLOW
ALONG ON THE FIRST PAGE WE'VE
SUMMARIZED OUR NINETY
PRINCIPLES.
AND OF ALL ASPECTS OF RESEARCH
WE CONSIDER THESE A SIGNIFICANT
ENOUGH TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY
AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION. AND
INSURED FUNDING FOR TAURIDA
IMPLEMENTATION.
AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST WE
RECOMMEND LEGISLATURE CLEARLY
DEFINE. OF
HIGH LEVEL GOALS AND FURTHER
NARROW AND SPECIFY SCIENTIFIC
OBJECTIVES THROUGH THE
ENGAGEMENT OF EXPERTS. THIS
ASPECT OF RESEARCH
ADMINISTRATION WAS
OVERWHELMINGLY PRIORITIZE BY THE
PUBLISHED LITERATURE AND ALL OF
OUR INTERVIEWEES TO AVOID
OUTCOMES THAT MISALIGNED WITH
THE LEGISLATURE'S GOALS.
THE IMPORTANCE
OF EXPERT GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT
PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.
UPON SPEAKING WITH THE FORMER
DIRECTOR OF DARPA THE FEDERAL
DEFENSE RESEARCH AGENCY. BUT
MADE CLEAR THAT EXPERTS ON THE
STAFF AND EXTERNALLY WERE DEEPLY
ENGAGED IN DRIVING EACH FUNDED
PROGRAM FORWARD. AND SEVERAL
ASSESSMENTS ATTRIBUTE THIS
ASPECT TO THE BREAKTHROUGH
SUCCESSES OF THAT AGENCY.
OUR THIRD PRINCIPLES SPEAKS OF
THE NATURE OF INNOVATIVE
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH IN THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION MUST BE ADAPTABLE
AND FLEXIBLE TO MEET THE
CHANGING NEEDS OF SCIENCE
METHODOLOGIES AND PUBLIC
PRIORITIES.
THAT INCLUDES SUPPORTING THE
FULL LANDSCAPE OF RESEARCH FROM
BASIC TO APPLIED AS IS DONE BY
THE CALIFORNIA BREAST CANCER
RESEARCH PROGRAM.
WHICH INCLUDES BOTH BIOMEDICAL
SCIENCES AS WELL AS.
YOU COMMUNITY CLINICAL
IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAMS.
ONE MANIFESTATION OF AN
ADAPTABLE AND FLEXIBLE RESEARCH
ADMINISTRATION IS CAPTURED BY
OUR FOURTH KEY PRINCIPLE. THAT
IS EFFICIENT GRANTING. AT
PRESENT WE FOUND IT FUNNY
PROCEDURES VERY DRAMATICALLY
WITHIN AND ACROSS STATE AGENCIES
MAKING IT VERY CHALLENGING FOR
SOME THE STATE'S TOP RESEARCH
TALENT. FROM EVEN APPLYING TO
STATE FUNDS AND THEREFORE
CONTRIBUTING TO OUR PROGRAMS.
A SUCCESSFUL MODEL OF THE
FISHING GRANTING IS FOUND AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL WHERE CONGRESS HAS
UNIQUELY AUTHORIZED THE ENERGY
RESEARCH AGENCY ARE PUTTING. THE
BYPASS TYPICAL GOVERNMENTAL
CONTRACTING REGULATIONS TO
BETTER TAILOR GRANTING
AGREEMENTS TO THE. UNIQUE NEEDS
OF THE RESEARCH ENTERPRISE.
AS YOU REQUESTED A PROVIDED AN
IN DEPTH ANALYSIS IN THE
APPENDIX WHICH DIES FURTHER INTO
DETAILS OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
THE LEGISLATURE TO CONTINUE TO
RESOLVE THESE ISSUES.
SIMILARLY WITH INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY.
WELL WE FOUND THE CAN A
CONSISTENTAND FAIR IP
STEWARDSHIP IS WELL REGARDED. AS
A POWERFUL TOOL FOR THE STATE TO
ENCOURAGE THE PROGRESSION OF
KNOWLEDGE TO PRODUCTS AND
SERVICES.
CURRENTLY STATE AGENCIES
LIKEWISE DO NOT RECEIVE GUIDANCE
ON MANAGING IP AND ARE THEREFORE
LEFT CREATE THEIR OWN POLICIES
WHICH CREATES OFTENTIMES
DEBILITATING INCONSISTENCY. AND
UNCERTAINTY FOR RESEARCH
GRANTEES WHETHER THEIR ACADEMIC
INSTITUTIONS FEDERAL LABS ARE
PRIVATE FIRMS.
AS A PRINTING PRESS SEIZE THE
APPENDIX INCLUDES DEEPER DIVE
INTO THIS TOPIC IN OFFERS
PRACTICAL. OF PROPOSALS FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO.
TO CONSIDER. THE NEXT FOR THE
LAST FOUR PRINCIPLES ADDRESS
MORE ON THE GROUND ASPECTS FOR
OPTIMIZING PUBLIC BENEFITS OF
RESEARCH ADMINISTRATION.
REVIEWING ASSESSING RESEARCH
PROJECTS FOR ONE PRODUCES
WASTEFUL SPENDING. AND HOLDS A
PROGRAM ACCOUNTABLE TO ITS
MISSION.
MARKETING AND OUTREACH REFERS TO
MULTIPLE FACETS THE RESEARCH
PIPELINE. STUDIES SHOW THAT
MAKING RESULTS PUBLICLY
AVAILABLE COMPILING THOSE
RESEARCH RESULTS INTO A PUBLICLY
ACCESSIBLE DATABASE.
A WIDELY ADVERTISING FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES AND FACILITATING
NETWORKING AMONG SCIENTISTS AS
WELL AS THE PUBLIC HAVE ALL BEEN
SHOWN TO BOOST THE PUBLIC
BENEFITS OF RESEARCH.
AS AN EXAMPLE THE FEDERAL
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY DOE HAS AN
OFFICE AT FUNCTIONS EXCLUSIVELY.
TO ENSURE THE RESULTS OF
RESEARCH ARE IDENTIFIED
DISSEMINATED AND PRESERVED TO
GUIDANCE AND HANDS ON SUPPORT TO
ALL OF ITS DELAY LABS AND
RESEARCH PROGRAMS.
ARE EIGHT PRINCIPAL IS CROSS
AGENCY COORDINATION AND
COLLABORATION. WHICH ENHANCES
THE CHANCES FOR BREAKTHROUGH
RESEARCH WHILE PREVENTING
DUPLICATIVE EFFORTS.
AND FINALLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
SKILLED WORKFORCE AND THE
SUPPORT OF REGIONAL ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT STRENGTHENS THE
PUBLIC BENEFITS AND RESEARCH
PROGRAM BY ONE. CAPITALIZING ON
THE VALUABLE TRAINING THAT
CONDUCTING RESEARCH INCLUDE
PROVIDES AND TO CONNECTING
RESEARCH EFFORTS WITH LOCAL
INDUSTRY. TO MORE EFFECTIVELY
TRANSFORM IDEAS AND COMMERCIALLY
VIABLE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.
AN EXAMPLE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE
IN CALIFORNIA IS LAWRENCE
BERKELEY NATIONAL LABORATORIES
TECHNOLOGY TO MARKET PROGRAM
CALLED CYCLOTRON ROAD. WHICH IS
DESIGNED TO FILL THE GAP BETWEEN
ENERGY TECHNOLOGY INVENTION AND
COMMERCIALIZATION BY SUPPORTING
SCIENTIFIC ENTREPRENEURS.
SELECT INCLUDES A SUMMARY OF OUR
NINETY PRINCIPLE STYLE NOW
HEADED BACK TO PAUL TO ADDRESS
PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION SHOULD
ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON
THE PRETZELS FROM MOVE ON TO
THE.
PREVENT I WANTED TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THE.
IS THE HOW THE.
US DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY THIS
NIMBLE QUALITY THAT THEY'VE
THEY'VE ADOPTED HOW DID THEY
WERE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK IN THE
FEDERAL LEVEL WHAT THE CROSS
AGENCY?
COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION
DESERVES SOME SOMETHING THAT WE
CAN LEARN FROM HOW THEY HAVE
GOTTEN DIRECTION FROM THE
LEGISLATURE.
CERTAINLY SO WE WE ACTUALLY
ASKED THIS VERY QUESTION TO THE
NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES
WHICH. ARE CONDUCTED A RECENT
ASSESSMENT OF OUR BODY AND HE HE
RESPONDED THAT IT WAS MUCH MORE
INFORMAL. THAN IT WAS FORMAL FOR
THE PROGRAM OFFICERS.
ARE EACH RESPONSIBLE FOR
ENGAGING THE.
A GAUGING IDEAS.
AND INTEREST FROM MULTIPLE
AGENCIES WITHOUT THE FORMALITY
OF A OF A CONNECTION.
OUR AIM IS THAT.
IT IS SAID THAT CAN YOU COMMENT
ON THE THE PRINCIPLE OF
ADAPTABILITY AND FLEXIBILITY IS
IT SORT IS THE SAME SORT OF
INFORMAL.
.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT WITH THE
SCIENTISTS WORKING ON THESE
PROJECTS FOR THE TEAM OF
SCIENTISTS NAY SAY WE SHOULD
REALLY YOU KNOW NOT NARROW IT TO
THE SPECIFIC WORDS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE AND THERE WAS THEM.
AND COME UP WITH BUT THIS MAY
BE.
BUT WE KEVIN APPLIQUE A
DEMONSTRATION THAT WE CAN USE
WITH THIS BECAUSE OF SOME
BREAKTHROUGH.
ABSOLUTELY NO THERE'S A HIGH
LEVEL AUTONOMY GIVEN TO THE
PROGRAM OFFICERS HE'S EXPERT
LEVEL PROGRAM OFFICERS OF BOTH
ARPA E. AND DARPA. ON WHICH
CREATED THE DARK THE MODEL UPON
AND THAT HIGH LEVEL OUT OF IT
AUTONOMY HAS ALLOWED THOSE
PROGRAM OFFERS OFFICERS TO RUN
WITH.
RE CONFIGURATIONS OF THE
PROGRAMS MIDWAY THROUGH A
EXTENSIONS OF RESEARCH PROJECTS
AS THEY SEE FIT THEIR VERY
DEEPLY ENGAGED HANDS ON WITH THE
RESEARCH PROJECTS THAT THEY
FUND.
IT'S HARD FOR SOME LEGISLATORS.
COULD RELEASE SOME OF THE
CONTROL THAT WE HAVE COMING IN
OVER OVER. BOMB ANYTHING SO BUT
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT AT LEAST IN
THE RESEARCH AND THAT THE FOR.
THE BASIC APPLIED RESEARCH
DEVELOPMENT AND DEMONSTRATION
THAT THAT.
FLEXIBILITY THAT WE COULD GIVE
TO THEM DAYS IN THE M. ENTITY.
PARTICIPATE IS PARAMOUNT TAG FOR
SUCCESS
WE RECOGNIZE THAT TOO AND WE
PROPOSED PROPOSED SOMETHING WE
LEARN LESSONS FROM RP BUT WE
ALSO PROPOSED ANOTHER IN A
FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE I THINK.
I'M INNER STRUCTURE OF HAVING AN
ADVISORY COUNCILS KIND OF X. X.
EXTERNAL TO THE ADMINISTRATION
PART OF IT AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE
TO GIVE ALL THE AUTONOMY
INDEPENDENCE LIKE THEY HAVE AT
THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR THAT.
SO OPEN UP THERE'S NO ACTION
GONNA TAKE ON THIS THANK YOU FOR
REPORTERS ARE PUBLIC COMMENT
ANY.
SCIENTIST OUT THERE THEY WANNA.
ADDRESS OKAY WILL CLOSE THE
PUBLIC POPPED CUT THINK YOU
INFLICTS CALLED THE P. YOU SEE.
OF.
SENATE NIELSEN WITH QUESTION
EVEN MENTIONED PURE AND APPLIED
I THINK CALLED BASIC RESEARCH I
THINK IT.
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE PURE
RESEARCH.
THE DISTINCTION HOW DO YOU SEE
THAT BEING APPLIED HERE YOU WERE
MENTIONING THAT AND I'M LITTLE
CURIOUS ABOUT THE NEW. CIVIC ARE
YOU TRYING TO TO WANT TO CHANGE
THE THE FOCUS OF MORE TO THE
APPLIED.
RESEARCH.
AND LAST OF THE PURE RESEARCH.
THE THROUGHOUT THE PUBLISHED
LITERATURE WE FOUND THAT BASIC
OR FUNDAMENTAL OR PURE RESEARCH
PROVIDES THAT NECESSARY
FOUNDATION. WITHOUT SUPPORTING
IT. APPLIED RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT
AND DEMONSTRATION RESEARCH.
HAVE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE TO BUILD
ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE WITH
BUILT IN MECHANISM SO FOR THE
TRANSITION.
AT THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL THAT'S
LONG BEEN A PROBLEM.
DELISH PURE RESEARCH IT'S ON
SHELVES.
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
NEVER USED.
AND OTHER MECHANISMS FOR US TO
GET THAT TRANSLATED DOWN GET
PROGRESS YOU SAY THE FOUNDATION.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE
APPLICATION.
IT APPEARS THAT WE'VE NOT DONE A
GOOD JOB OVER DECADES IN THAT
AREA IS IT IMPROVING. SIX SO
YOU'RE TOUCHING ON THE CONCEPT
OF THESE VALLEYS OF DEATH.
RIGHT WHERE WHERE UNABLE TO TAKE
THAT STEP FROM BASIC TO APPLIED
FOR APPLY TO DEVELOPMENT FROM
DEVELOPMENT TO DEMONSTRATION.
AND THERE CERTAINLY ARE A
EXEMPLARY MODELS WHERE THAT HAS
BEEN.
BUT THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IT'S
JUST A MATTER OF A INSTITUTING
IT UP PROPERLY. AND SUPPORTING
IT.
HOW COULD THIS LEGISLATURE HELP
THE FACT THAT IN THE BUDGET?
BUDGET CONTROL LANGUAGE.
AT FIRST PRIMARILY WE DISCUSS
THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING
LEGISLATIVE.
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT.
WHAT YOU SEE MAYBE IN THE
UNIVERSITY SETTING IS THERE'S A
LOT OF RESEARCH BEING DONE
THAT'S NOT TIED TO A PUBLIC
PURPOSE?
AND SO IT'S BEEN DONE FOR THE
SAKE OF HIS RESEARCH IN ITSELF
FOR FOR.
GETTING PUBLISHED IN FOR THAT
PURPOSE
I THINK THAT HAVING CLEAR GOALS.
AND HAVING THOSE OUTCOMES OF
THE RESEARCH FUNDING A LINE TO
THOSE GOALS.
IS ONE WAY TO KIND OF MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT
EVEN IF IT'S AT THE BASIC LEVEL
IT WILL BE APPLIED TO PUBLIC
BENEFIT.
THANK.
I'M OKAY NOW WHAT'S CALLED TO P.
UC I'M WE'RE GONNA TAKE ON THE.
WHO TO START WITH ITEM NUMBER
FOUR ON THE VOTE ONLY?
?
CALENDAR BECAUSE CENTER AND.
NIELSEN HAS A ISSUE THIS IS THE.
CALIFORNIA ADVANCED SERVER
PRODUCT. FOE I'M VOTE.
WATER AFFORDABILITY FOR LOW
INCOME.
IF WE CAN TURN THAT THAT.
I FELT.
HERE.
GOTCHA.
OKAY.
I WEAR IMPEACHED IF THREE OF OUR
REPORT.
OKAY THIS IS.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON
ANYTHING.
THIS IS A NINE HUNDRED AND
TWENTY.
NINE.
THOUSAND DOLLAR NO FOR TWO
HUNDRED NINETY FOUR THOUSAND
DOLLARS.
REQUEST FROM THE REIMBURSEMENT.
AND THE PC REIMBURSEMENT FOR
CHIU TO YOUR LIMITED TERM
POSITIONS.
OKAY ON.
GOOD MORNING SENATORS I'M TIM
SULLIVAN THE FORMER EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION I'M HERE BECAUSE I
HELP PREPARE THE BUDGET CHANGE
PROPOSALS. AND OUR NEW EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR.
AT THE END IS AL SEVENS OF
FORMALLY OF THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD AND SHE'S HERE BECAUSE
SHOULD BE ARE SPENDING THE
MONEY.
AT MAKING SURE IT'S SAID SPEND
WELL.
WHERE WE'LL GO RIGHT TO THE?
FIRST.
ITEM BUT I WANTED TO MENTION
THAT. WE HAVE DIVIDED OUR A
REQUEST IN TO BASICALLY THREE
BROAD AREAS.
MAKING SURE WE'VE WE.
FIRST OF ALL THERE ARE CHANGES
THAT WE REQUIRE TO MAKE ME
CHANGING PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS YOUR
SEATS AFFECTS NUMBER THEM.
WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PROPOSED OF
SAID STEVE STEM FROM OUR REFORM
EFFORTS AND THEY'RE BUILDING ARE
ADMINISTRATIVE COR.
TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE. WITH
STATE OVERSIGHT TO CONTROL
AGENCIES THAT AND FINALLY OUR
BUDGET PROPOSALS TO IMPLEMENT
NEW LEGISLATION SO THAT'S WHAT
WE WILL HAVE TODAY HEIGHT WILL
LET'S TURN TO CENTER NIELSEN WHO
MAY HAVE A QUESTION ON. THE
POSITIONS FOR THE.
GROWING WATER AFFORDABILITY
ISSUE OF RATE SETTING.
SENATE NIELSEN. THIS IS A.
HUGE STATEWIDE ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE DEALING WITH.
COSTS WATER AND MANY MANY.
AREAS.
AND.
I'M WONDERING ABOUT. I'M GONNA
JUST FOCUS ON.
RESEARCH.
COULD THIS EVER BEEN RESULT ON A
SURCHARGE.
ON WATER. IS THAT BEING
CONTEMPLATED.
THE SURCHARGE.
ON WATER.
THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE FOR
THESE TWO POSITIONS ARE IN OUR
RESEARCH ORIENTED TO THEIR TO.
GET OUT THERE AND DEVELOP A
DATABASE. AND DEVELOP A MODEL.
FOR ANALYSIS OF THE DATA BASE
THAT WILL ALLOW DECISION MAKERS
AT THE COMMISSION. TO MAKE
INFORMED DECISIONS
ALL AND THE NEXUS BETWEEN.
WATER BILLS THAT COME OUT OF THE
RATE SETTING PROCESS AND THE
ISSUE OF AFFORDABILITY.
THE NOTHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING
AT THIS POINT.
IN TERMS OF SURCHARGE USE. THAT
WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE
COMMISSIONERS.
FALLING SENATE HEARINGS.
AND PUBLIC COMMENT FORTY.
WITH THE SURCHARGE WOULD BE SAID
THERE'S I I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A
ACTUALLY TRAILER BILL.
THAT.
BEING PROPOSED WILL BE PROFFERED
WERE IN SUCH ATTACKS COULD BE
INCLUDED.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT.
I AM AWARE OF THE BILL.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS
INDEPENDENT OF WHOLE WILL THAT
THAT THAT BILL?
THE COMMISSION HAS FOR OVER A
DECADE.
ALL.
REQUIRED.
AND. SEE FOR THE LARGE DRAWING
CLASS A WATER UTILITIES UNDER
CHU RESTRICTION HAVE LOWER
INCOME ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.
LAST SUMMER IN JUNE OF TWENTY
SEVENTEEN THE COMMISSION OPEN
UP.
A RULE MAKING TO REVIEW HOW
THOSE LOW INCOME PROGRAMS ARE
WORKING FOR THOSE INTO LATIN
CLASS A WATER UTILITIES. ONE OF
THE ISSUES IS THE EFFECTIVENESS
OF THOSE LOW INCOME PROGRAMS.
OR THEY MEETING THE GOALS OF THE
STATE AND THE COMMISSION. IN
MAKING WATER. BILLS AFFORDABLE
TO LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS.
THIS EFFORT.
THE WE WERE QUESTIONING THIS.
PCP IS TO.
GIVE THE COMMISSION. THE DATA
AND ANALYSIS. TO INFORM THEM.
TWELVE WHETHER OR NOT THESE
PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR OR FACT OF.
THE TRAILER BILL AS I UNDERSTAND
IT AND. AGAIN THAT'S NOT.
WELL PW ARE AVAILABLE. I THINK
IT'S OUT SLIGHTLY SHE BEACH.
I'M SORRY TRAILER BILLS ARE
ELUSIVE BEAST ATWOOD DOT HOLD
YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT MAY
HAPPEN IN THE TRAILER BILL.
AND IT'S ALSO WHAT THE D.
DEPARTMENT WATER RESOURCES NOT
WITH THE P. YOU SEE SO IT
DIFFERENCE I UNDERSTAND THAT
THAT THAT THE FUNDS ARE TO BE.
WELL.
WHILE THE FUNDING FOR THIS IS TO
BE USED FOR.
OR THEM.
OPERATION MAINTENANCE WORK.
FOR SMALL WATER SYSTEMS.
WHERE?
THE WATER QUALITY HAS BEEN AT
ISSUE FOR. MANY YEARS.
THAT IS NOT THE WATER SYSTEMS
THAT THE COMMISSION.
REGULATES.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT HERE
MIGHT NOT BE ONE OR TWO.
COMMISSION JURISDICTIONAL SMALL
WATER UTILITIES THAT WOULD
BENEFIT. FROM SUCH A PROGRAM BUT
THAT'S NOT.
THE
THE COMMISSION IS NOT.
GOING TO BE A BENEFICIARY A
NORMAL THE WATER SYSTEMS UNDER
ITS JURISDICTION.
BE BETTER FISHERIES.
OF THIS TRAILER BILL AS I AS I
UNDERSTAND.
WELL IN ANY WAY. THE EXPENDITURE
AND THIS IS AGAIN NOT A HUGE
AMOUNT A LITTLE UNDER THREE
HUNDRED THOUSAND.
DOLLARS.
.
AND THIS IS FROM LIMITED TERM
POSITIONS NOW THEY HAVE A WAY OF
NOT GOING AWAY ONE. TERM AGENDA
DONE NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT
POINT.
BUT.
IT'S.
THE P. YOU SEE TO MAKE
DETERMINATIONS AFFORDABILITY.
.
I'M TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH WITH
WHAT THAT ROLE IS IN IN
DETERMINING THE AFFORDABILITY.
IT IT IN OPPOSING THE RATES IS
THAT WHAT YOU'RE.
HOW THAT HOW YOU GOT AFFECTED
AND REGULATE? LITTLE CLEARLY
WITH COMMISSIONS DATA JOJO.
WE WENT SUCH RATES FIT IN IT
THEN AND ESTABLISHES THOSE RATES
THAT IMPACT BILLS FOR CUSTOMERS
AS IT WILL HAVE AN AFFORDABILITY
IN THE NUTS. IMPACT AND THAT'S.
WHEN THE THINGS OF THE
COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT AS IT'S
LOOKING IN THIS RULE MAKING.
IN TERMS OF EFFECTIVENESS LONG
COME PROGRAMS AND. THE SURGERIES
ON ORBIT ALREADY EXISTING.
TO PAY FOR THOSE PROGRAMS ARE
PAID FOR BY NON PURCHASE PETTY
LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS THAT AND
AND SO THIS APPLIES ONLY TO LOW
INCOME.
WELL WE'LL SEE.
YOU WILL SEE IT. HOW WE DEFINE
USE LOW INCOME PROGRAMS A
PROPERLY? RIGHT NOW THEY'RE
DEFINED AS TWO ONE PERCENT OF
THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. IS
OUT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL. BASED
ON.
AFFORDABILITY MEASURES
PUT WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION
NOW THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS.
OF THIS ANALYSIS IS TO HOPEFULLY
GIVE THE DECISION MAKERS A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHETHER
THE EXISTING PROGRAMS HAS A
BEEN.
DESTRUCTIVE. ARE FACTORED FOR
DELIVERING. WHAT THE COMMISSION?
IT IS ORDERED I'D STATURE TO DO.
PART OF MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS
MIGHT PROVIDE FOUNDATION.
FOR.
A WATER TAX IN THE LURCH.
A BASIS
FOUNDATION AND THAT'S WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT START OFF
THE TO DETACH WITH WITH THIS WAS
FOR THE FRENCH UNFUNDED
FOUNDATIONAL EVIDENCE I GUESS IS
THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I.
YOU DON'T KNOW YEAH THAT'S WELL
ABOVE MY PAY GRADE TO DETERMINE
WHAT THE COURT TOOK COULD HAPPEN
DOWN THE ROAD AND I'M JUST
TRYING TO.
I WOULD BE THERE. I UNDERSTAND
SIR.
DEMONA PUT TO DO MUCH ON THE
SPOT.
I I JUST WANT TO WAVE THE FLAG
OF THAT POSSIBILITY.
THANK IT. THIS IS A THIS IS THE
PRE PARADE THIS IS THEY OPEN UP
TO RULE MAKING NOW WE'RE GOING
TO GIVE A COUPLE ANALYST'S DISCO
IN THERE AND SEE. IF THERE ARE
SOLUTIONS THEY ME.
FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE INJURED
MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
THE P. UC'S THEY GO THROUGH THAT
PROPOSAL ON RATES RIGHT. RIGHT
OKAY THAT DALY A WE HAVE
ANYTHING TO ADD TO HIS MINIMUM
DEPARTMENT FINANCE OUTPUT
REFINED CITIZENS.
.
RESPONSE MISTER NELSON REGARDING
THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
PROPOSAL FOR THE SAKE AFFORD.
WATER.
I DO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THIS BUT.
I'M SURE YOU ADDRESS IT WHEN
THE WATER POURED COMES BEFORE
YOU. BUT THAT PROPOSAL IS OF
COURSE A MULTI YEAR APPROACH THE
FIRST YEARS FROM GIVING UP SOME
OF THE.
STRUCTURES THE REGULATIONS MULTI
STAKEHOLDER MEETING SO TO THE
EXTENT THAT THAT WILL TAKE
SEVERAL YEARS ASSUMING THAT THE
SPINE BOARD APPROVES IT.
.
TO IMPLEMENT I THINK THESE TWO
CAN ACTUALLY SORT OF LINE UP.
HELP WENT TOGETHER THAT THE
SECOND THING ACTUALLY THROUGH
THE WONDERS OF TECHNOLOGY HAVE
CONFIRMED THAT NO S. B. ONE
FUNDING.
WILL BE IS FOR ELECTRIC
ATTRACTING STATIONS TO YOUR
PICKED
THANK YOU ON THAT PARTICULAR
POINT.
.
WOULDN'T IT BE.
PREMATURE BE ENTERTAINING EVEN A
CONSIDERATION OF WATER TAX.
WHEN YOU GET JUST AN INFORMATION
GATHERED.
I THINK WHAT'S OF DATE JUST THE
THE RED FLAG IS A TRAILER BILL.
SO WHY DO WE NEED REALLY
CONTEMPLATING ANYTHING FROM THE
BOARD. THAT TO TO A DUEL WATER
TAX AT THIS POINT DON'T YOU NEED
TO DISS.
STUDY WORK FIRST.
I'M SURE THEY CAN SPEAK TO WEEK
THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE STUDIES
ON THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
AND THE WATER YOU KNOW WATER
THROUGH THE DROUGHT DRYING UP.
AND GIVEN THE MAGNITUDE OF THE
PROBLEM AND THE MULTI YEAR
NATURE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE TO.
GET EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING TO
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES I'M I DON'T
THINK WE WANT TO WAIT AND
CONTINUE TO PUT PEOPLE IN THE
POSITION OF.
YOU'RE HAVING.
.
YUP. WATER THE DOES ANY PUBLIC
HEALTH STANDARDS
BUT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL
WE HAVE THAT. SCHEDULED AGENDA
ITEM WHAT THE WATER RESOURCES
BOARD. AND WATER IS VERY DEAR
NOW AND GETTING MORE DEAR.
SO LET'S MOVE ON WITH THE MOVE
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
IN ITEM NUMBER.
YES.
THANK YOU.
PLANET SKETCHING ITEMS.
YES A GOOD MORNING SENATORS.
WE'D BE CALLING FORWARD.
CENTER CARE AND.
AREA EXPERTS TO ANSWER THE
DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A
PROGRAMMATIC FOR PROPOSAL
DEALING WITH SAFETY ENFORCEMENT
AND THE DEPUTY EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR MIRIAM KEY OF.
SIXTEEN COMPLIANCE WILL BE
PRESENTING AN ANSWER.
IT'LL.
GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING.
NO HAD THIS ISITEM NUMBER ONE.
BY THE RAILROAD OPERATION
BRANCHES CROSSING FORTIFY.
FORTIFYING THE GAS SAFETY
RELIABILITY.
THAT THIS IS IT ACIDITY CP THAT
WE ARE.
ASKING FOR TWELVE PERMANENT
POSITIONS IN FIVE.
UPGRADE POSITIONS TO.
BASICALLY ENHANCE THE RESOURCES
THAT WE HAVE FOR THE RADIO.
RAIL BRANCH RAIL CROSSING AND
ALSO A GAS SAFETY BRANCH.
A WE ARE CURRENTLY NOT ABLE TO
MEET ALL OF OUR MANDATES IN
THESE AREAS BECAUSE OF.
THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN
GROWTH AND THERE'S BEEN.
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS BEEN
ADDED TO RURAL AREAS.
SAID THIS IS REALLY JUST A
WORKLOAD ISSUE FOR US ARM WE
HAVE BEEN PUTTING.
FOLKS IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS
INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE SEA.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR RAIL AND
GAS PIPELINES OR.
ALL OVER THE STATE FROM
NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE
THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND ALSO.
DOWN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WE
HAVE I'M CURRENTLY STAFF IN ALL
OF OUR OFFICES IN SAN FRANCISCO
SACRAMENTO AM LOS ANGELES. I'M
BE HAVE SOME HOME BASED.
STAFF MOSTLY FOR RAPE TO BE
GONE EXTEND THAT TO OUR TOUR GAS
FOLKS WHO THIS IS REALLY WHEN WE
LOOK THAT.
WHERE THE DIVIDE THE WORK WAS
WHICH IS WHERE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS WOULD THESE
PEOPLE HAVE TO GO INSPECT AUDIT
AND INVESTIGATE THE ACCIDENTS?
YOU REALIZE THAT THESE OF OUR
STAFF FOR TRAVELING THE LAW IN
ORDER TO GET TO THESE PLACES.
WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE TO
SUPERVISORS FOR THE ENTIRE OF
RAILROADS OF WHICH IS ABOUT TEN
THOUSAND MILES OF RAIL. TRACKS
THESE NEED TO BE INSPECTED SO WE
ONLY HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS FOR
EXAMPLE LOOKING OVER.
WITH FORTY INSPECTORS.
SAID THIS DISC OF HOLD THE CITY
BASICALLY CAME OUT OF THAT THAT
WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING PEOPLE IN
PLACES WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE
IS. BUT WE WANT TO FORMALIZE
THAT IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY.
AND I'M REALLY DIVIDING THE
AREAS IN IN AREAS IN IN A WAY
THAT MAKES SENSE AND THIS IS
REALLY MODELED AFTER OTHER
AGENCIES THE I WILL LOOK THAT.
UP CAL OSHA TELL OH YES CAL
FIRE.
AND THEY HAVE A SIMILAR. A
STRUCTURE.
I GUESS I COULD WE GET TWO
THINGS GOING ON WE HAVE THIS
RESTRUCTURING OF OF THE OFFICES
AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL TWELVE
UNITS I GUESS THE QUESTION IS
FUNCTIONALLY HOW IS IT GOING TO.
TO CHANGE THE THE OR HOW WITH
THE TWELVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS
HELP OUT THE NEW. SHIFT IN.
THE. INSPECTIONS LOCATIONS I
GUESS
THE FOURSOME BRANCHES YA
CURRENTLY FOR EXAMPLE WE BECAUSE
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INSPECTORS
TO GO TO SOME OF THESE AREAS
WERE JUST NOT DOING THOUGH SO IF
WE ADD FOR EXAMPLE ON THE GAS
SIDE. WOULD NOT INSPECTING THE
MOBILE HOME PARKS OR THE.
.
A PROPANE OPERATORS SOPHIE
OPPOSITE HAVE MORE INSPECTORS WE
CAN WE CAN SEND THOSE AND IF
THESE PEOPLE ARE CLOSER TO WHERE
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE TIME
THAT THEY USUALLY SPEND RIGHT
NOW TO TRAVEL TO THESE AREAS.
WILL BE SPENT TO OBSCENE DO MORE
WORK AND AND DO MORE INSPECTION
ON THE CURRENT.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE SAME THING
FOR A RAIL AND A RAIL CROSSING.
STAFF.
RIGHT NOW FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE
SEVERAL INCIDENTS OPEN.
THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
FINISH THE INVESTIGATION ON THE
RAIL CROSSINGS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR
ENGINEERS ARE ACTUALLY DOING A
LOT OF.
ANALYTICAL WORK INSTEAD OF
ACTUALLY GOING TO THE FIELD AND
INTERVIEWING FOLKS LOOKING AT
THE SIGHTS AND AND YOU KNOW TO
THE ENGINEERING WORK. SO THAT'S
WHAT A COMBINATION OF ENGINEERS
AND AND SOME OF OUR ANALYSTS ARE
NEEDED TO. TO KINDA HELP.
JUST ENHANCE THE WORK THAT WE
CURRENTLY DO SO THAT WE CAN
NUMBER ONE DO BUT WE ARE
MANDATED TO O AND AND SOME OF
THE STUFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDED
AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO
THOSE. AND ALSO AS YOU KNOW THAT
YOU SEE IS REALLY TRYING TO BE.
AHEAD OF YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF
THESE INCIDENTS AND ACCIDENTS
WE'VE MONO WE WANT TO DO A LOT
OF THESE INSPECTIONS AND AUDITS
AHEAD OF TIME SO THE MORE WE
HAVE. STAFF THAT'S LOOKING INTO
THESE THINGS AND LOOKING IN MORE
DEPTH THAN WE ARE HOPEFULLY ABLE
TO SEE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS
EARLIER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
INCIDENTS OR MAJOR.
ACCIDENTS.
THIS STEP DECENTRALIZING MODEL
THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE THAT
APPLY TO OTHER.
ACTIVITIES DIPPY YOU SEE.
ASK IS A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SAY
IT'S GOTTA GO DOWN SAN FRANCISCO
TO.
.
THE ANSWER W. QUIT NOW AND I
THINK OF.
TIM US ALL OF THEM BUT ALSO
HAVE TO ADD TO THAT SO DECEIVED
ENFORCEMENT DIVISION IS A VERY
UNIQUE THE VISION OF THE P. YOU
SEE IT HOUSES A SAID. INSPECTORS
AND AUDITOR'S AND INVESTIGATORS
THEY'RE ONE OF THE OUT THERE'S
ANOTHER GROUP DESK DOES A
SIMILAR TYPE OF WORK BUT
DESERVES FOLKS WHO WERE IN
CHARGE OF RAIL GAS AND ELECTRIC
SAFETY. THEY ARE ACTUALLY.
WORKING WITH THE FACILITIES
WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS
WHERE THE FACILITIES ON WHERE
THE POLLS ARE WHERE THE GAS
PIPELINES ARE WHERE THE RAILROAD
TRACKS ARE.
A LOT OF OTHER P. UC EMPLOYEES
IN A LOT ABOUT WHAT COULD BE
MORE ABOUT OFFICE WORK BUT IS
SEE THE UMPS AT SIX ANY PERSONAL
DIVISION STAFF THEY'RE THE ONES
WHO ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE. IF
AND WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT
THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY GO
THERE ALL THE C. INVESTIGATE. IN
INTERVIEW THE THAT WITNESSES AND
GET INFORMATION SO IN THAT SENSE
THISMODEL.
IS SEEMS TO BE THE RIGHT MODEL
FOR S. CD AND I THINK IT CANNOT
BE APPLIED TO A LOT OF OTHER
PARTS OF THE PC BUT I LETS HIM
EXPOUND ON THAT.
AND YES SENATOR I. I'VE LOOKED
AT YOUR QUESTIONS AND I NINE THE
YEAR ANSWER GO COULD THIS
DECENTRALIZED MODEL PEOPLE I TO
OTHER BRANCHES WITHIN THE
COMMISSION. AND THE ANSWER IS
UNFORTUNATELY YES AND NO.
THE TUNES OUT DIS THIS MODEL
WORKS GREAT BECAUSE OF WHERE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS IF YOU IF YOU
KNOW A LOT OF OUR KEY
INFRASTRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY THE
REMOTE AREAS OF THE STATE.
PASSIVE TRANSMISSION COMES AND
THE GAS COMES AND.
THE RAIL COMES AND AND WE LOSE
A LOT OF EFFECTIVENESS WITH
PEOPLE.
HAVING TO COME FROM AN OFFICE
AND CAN GO OUT. OF SOCIAL HE'S
NOT GOING TO BE A LOT DIFFERENT
BECAUSE ALREADY WE PRE POSITION
PEOPLE. ARE IN THOSE SERVICE
ESSENTIAL OR.
.
OFFICIALLY SICK WORK FROM HOME
THIS WILL PROVIDE MORE SUPPORT
AND MORE PEOPLE THERE. NOW THERE
ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE
COMMISSION'S OPERATIONS ARE KIND
OF LIKE THAT WE DO WE REGULATE
TRANSPORTATION AND WE DO HAVE
THOSE PEOPLE PUT IN THE IN THE
FIELD. ARE THROUGHOUT THE STATE
ARE WE ALSO HAVE OUR OUR
CUSTOMER SERVICE BUREAUS AND WE
ACTUALLY HAVE THEM DECENTRALIZED
NOW TO SACRAMENTO LOS ANGELES.
AND SAN FRANCISCO IN THE IDEA IS
TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE TIED TO THE
LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO SERVE THEM
SO THE ANSWER IS WHAT WE TRY TO
DO IS WE THINK FUNCTIONALLY.
ABOUT WHERE THE JOB IS BEST
SERVED AND IT TURNS OUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE OF THE
ANALYSIS THAT YOUR STAFF DID.
THIS SAFETY BUREAU HAS BEEN
DECENTRALIZED AND MOST THE
PEOPLE ARE READY OUTSIDE SAN
FRANCISCO SO SO THAT THAT'S NOT.
A CLEAR ANSWER BUT THAT'S IT.
FINANCE ALEJO ANYTHING ON THIS.
LET'S OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING
ANYBODY HAVE A. COMMENT TO MAKE
ON SAFETY ENFORCEMENT DIVISION I
ADDITION OF ONE.
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS GREG
COOK RIVERS IN THE GREATER
CALIFORNIA LIVERY ASSOCIATION
THE STATE'S PROFESSIONAL
ORGANIZATION FOR LIMOUSINE
OPERATORS.
AND I'M HERE TO TALK
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ENFORCEMENT
SAFETY ENFORCEMENT. A WITHIN THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.
OUR ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDED TO
THE COMMISSION THEY INCREASE THE
TRANSPORTATION REIMBURSABLE
ACCOUNT TO INCREASE ENFORCEMENT
ACTIVITIES.
OUR FEE WAS INCREASED
ENFORCEMENT WAS NOT.
LAST YEAR WE AGAIN ASKED THE
COMMISSION TO PLEASE START TO.
INCREASED IMPORTS WENT IN THE
LIMOUSINE INDUSTRY IN
CALIFORNIA.
NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
LAST YEAR THE BALANCE OF THE
PUCK TRUCK COUNT IN THE
COMMISSION WAS FOURTEEN.
ALMOST FIFTEEN BILLION DOLLARS.
TODAY THAT BALANCES OVER TWENTY
MILLION DOLLARS AND YET NOT A
SINGLE INCREASED IN ENFORCEMENT.
IN THE TRANSPORTATION
ENFORCEMENT BUREAU HAS HAPPENED.
THIS YEAR IN RESPONSE THE
COMMISSION REALIZE THAT THEY
HAVE AN OBSCENE AMOUNT OF MONEY
IN THAT IN THAT REAP IN THAT
ACCOUNT.
SO RATHER THAN SPEND THE MONEY
THE WAY IT. IS.
SUPPOSE TO BE SPENT. THEYDECIDE
TO REDUCE OUR FEES.
WE OBJECTED TO THAT ST DON'T
REDUCE OUR FEES WE WANT MORE
ENFORCEMENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE COMMISSION LAST MONTH
REDUCED OUR FEET BY FORTY
PERCENT.
BUT IN THAT REDUCTION IN THE FEE
REDUCTION IN THEIR STAFF
ANALYSIS THEY SAY THE COMMISSION
BELIEVES.
THAT THEY CAN LOWER FEES.
MAINTAIN SUFFICIENT FUNDING
LEVELS TO PURSUE IMPROVEMENTS IN
PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH INCREASED
ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES.
TODAY WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY
EFFORT IN THAT REGARD. I WOULD
URGE YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AS THIS BUDGET PROCESS
GOES FORWARD TO PLEASE PLEASE
ABOUT HALF OF CALIFORNIA'S
TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC. PLEASE.
URGE THE COMMISSION TO DO WHAT
THEY ARE. STATUTORILY REQUIRED
TO DO.
ENFORCE CURRENT LAW AND
REGULATION.
MAKE YOUR RESPONSE ON THIS
LITERALLY LIVERY.
.
FIVE REGULATIONS FOR
INSPECTIONS.
THEY DID THE PCP THAT WERE
ASKING IS FOR OUR SAFETY
ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND THAT IS
SPECIFICALLY FOR RAIL. HEAVY
RAIL.
RAIL CROSSING.
A GAS AND ELECTRIC OF THEM WOULD
THIS GENTLEMAN WAS REFERRING TO
IS FOR AS MENTIONED FOR
LIMOUSINE SERVICES AND THAT IS
HANDLED THROUGH A WHOLE
DIFFERENT. DIVISION ARE CONSUMER
PROTECTION ENFORCEMENT DIVISION
SO THE BCP DOES NOT.
IT THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO.
ENFORCEMENT OF THE LIMOUSINE OR
THE BUSES
ARE SENATOR LET ME RESPOND.
.
THE GUY SPEAKER MAKES A VERY
GOOD POINT SIR THIS IS ARE A
SERIOUS PROBLEM HE'S BEEN THE
FOCUS OF OF LEGISLATION. AND.
WE ARE WORKING.
TOO HIGH IMPROVE OUR
TRANSPORTATION ENFORCEMENT HIGH
WITH THE ARE WE ARE STILL
WORKING ON IT.
PURSUANT TO SENATOR HILLS
LEGISLATION WE HAD A MANAGEMENT
REPORT.
THAT CAME FORWARD THAT
RECOMMENDED OR REORGANIZATION
WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION
DIVISION WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
AND TO.
WE ARE ALSO A PURSUANT TO OTHER
LEGISLATION TO SOME POSITIONS
ARE BEING SHIFTED.
TO THE STATE CA CONSUMER
AFFAIRS BUREAU THERE'S BEEN A
LOT OF FLUX ONE OF THE THINGS I
DO WHEN I FIRST BECAME EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR. HIS RAISE THE PROFILE
AND HIS ABILITY AND CREATED A
SPECIAL DIVISION TO AND DO THAT.
IT HAS YET TO REALIZE THE ON THE
GROUND ENFORCEMENT.
PRESENCE.
THE COMMENTED COMMENTATOR WISH
TO HAVE AND I I ALSO WISH TO
HAVE THAT AND IT'S I'M SURE THIS
WILL BE THE SUBJECT ABOUT THE
HEARINGS.
I I GUESS DID THAT WHILE IT MAY
BE A SEPARATE ITEM DIVISION TAT
YOU HAVE. A THE REQUEST IS FROM
THE STATE TRANSPORTATION FUND
FOR THE TWELVE POSITIONS RIGHT
IS OURS. AND I MIXING APPLES AND
ORANGES HERE IS A DICK THAT IS
INDEED A DIFFERENT FUND THESE
ARE.
.
THESE ARE ARE ARE FOR I HAVE
THIS THIS STATE TRANSPORTATION
FUN IS DIFFERENT THAN THE THE
LIMOUSINE LE LIVERY AND
LEVERAGE.
OF FUN I LIKE SAY LIVERIS
MATCHES I CAN'T FIX THIS.
OKAY OF THIS.
AS I AS I UNDERSTAND IT THIS IS
ACTUALLY OUR.
A COMBINATION OF FEDERAL
RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION AND.
.
GOD FEDERAL FINS ARE.
FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
RIGHT.
OKAY DULY NOTED. ARM LET'S CLOSE
PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING THIS
ELECTION GOING TO TAKE.
MOVE ON TO
ISSUE NUMBER TWO LIFELINE
PROGRAM.
OKAY.
A JONATHAN LACK FOR ITS FOR MY
LIFE FROM OUR OUR COMMUNICATIONS
DIVISION WILL BE PRESENTING.
THIS IS IS A OUR PROGRAMMATIC
CHANGE.
AND.
WITH THE LIFELINE FUND HAS BEEN
GROWING.
GOOD MORNING SURE INSISTING WAS
MEMBERS.
WITH THIS REQUEST AND BCP NUMBER
TWO WERE REQUESTING TWO
DIFFERENT SETS OF ACTIVITIES.
ONE IS ONGOING FUNDING FOR THE
CALIFORNIA LIFELINE PROGRAM.
THEN THE OTHER IS TO ADD
ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO ALLOW US
TO BETTER MANAGE THE PROGRAM.
NEED STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS.
THEN MAKE SURE THAT THE BENEFITS
OF THE PROGRAM GO TO MORE
CALIFORNIANS.
I. LIKE IT.
I SEE THERE WAS A CONSIDERABLE
UNCERTAINTY AS A STAFF REPORT
NOTES OUT AND I JUST WANTED. WE
SPLIT THESE.
BUT LOCAL ASSISTANCE AND THE A
MONITORING COMPLIANCE IN TWO
DIFFERENT ISSUES.
TO.
SEE THINGS AS STABILIZE AT ALL
OR.
WE WERE ARE YOU DE A THE THROUGH
IS A BIG CHANGE FROM JANUARY
TILL MAY OF LAST YEAR. RIGHT I
RECALL. YES YOU'RE CORRECT WHAT
WE EXPERIENCE IN THE PROGRAM WAS
THERE WAS. RAPID GROWTH IN THE
FIRST HALF OF THE LAST FISCAL
YEAR. AND THEN IN JANUARY TO MAY
THE GROWTH IN THE PROGRAM
SUBSTANTIALLY. SLOW DOWN I THINK
IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO SEVERAL
FACTORS FIRST THERE WERE CHANGES
BALLS AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE
LEVEL THAT ARE BEING
CONTEMPLATED. AND I THINK THAT
SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR WAITING TO
SEE BUT THOSE CHANGES. ARE THOSE
CHANGES WOULD AFFECT THE
ECONOMICS PROVIDING LIFELINE
SERVICE IN CALIFORNIA.
IN ADDITION I THINK THAT THERE
WAS OUR. CONCERN EXPRESSED BY
THE PROVIDERS ABOUT THE
FREQUENCY WITH WHICH CUSTOMERS
WERE CHANGING BETWEEN THEM.
AND THEN THE LAST WAS THAT THE
PROVIDERS THEMSELVES FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS DECIDED TO DO
LESS MARKETING OUTRAGE THAN THEY
HAVE PREVIOUSLY AS YOU. MAY BE
AWARE FROM OUR LAST
CONVERSATIONS. THE MAJORITY OF%
CUSTOMERS IN THE PROGRAM OF
WIRELESS PARTICIPANTS.
AND MAJORITY THOSE CUSTOMERS
USUALLY SIGN UP FOR THE PROGRAM
BY CONTACTING LOCAL STREET TEAMS
THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT
ARE STAFFED BY THE SERVICE
PROVIDERS.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT.
CERTAINLY HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN
THE PROGRAM BUT AS YOU'RE
PROBABLY AWARE.
THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION'S CONSIDERING
SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGING THE
FEDERAL PROGRAM. AND WERE
WAITING TO SEE WHAT THOSE
IMPACTS WILL BE. IN TERMS OF THE
FEDERAL PROGRAM THE FEDERAL
STATE PROGRAM HAVE UP UNTIL NOW
WORK IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER.
NOT URE THAT THAT WILL
NECESSARILY CONTINUE DEPENDING%
UPON HOW THE FEDERAL PROGRAMS
CHANGED. AND SO AND CERTAINLY
FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
SERVICE PROVIDERS. REMAINS IN
PLACE AND WE'RE WAITING TO SORT
OF SEE.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT THOSE SINGLE
LARGEST I THINK ISSUE THAT'S A
PLAY? AT THE FEDERAL
COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION IS
WHETHER THE PROGRAM WOULD
INCLUDE WHAT THEY CALL RESELLERS
WHICH IS BASICALLY THE WIRELESS
PROVIDERS. AND WHEN THEY'RE
GOING TO LIMITED ONLY TO THOSE
CARES OWN THEIR OWN FACILITIES.
WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY
ELIMINATE MOST OF THE CURRENT
WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS IN
OUR PROGRAM.
I THINK YOU.
.
FINANCE ELLIOTT WE HAVE
ANYTHING.
CENTER.
SENATE NELSON.
YEAH I WOULD YOU ARE. AT PEACE
SEEP SOME OF THE OF ELIGIBILITY
CHANGES.
FEDERAL LEVEL.
OUR THE FUNDS IN THESE.
PROGRAMS PROPOSED HERE TO BACK
FILL.
IS THAT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE
FOR.
THERE IS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF
MONEY IN. THE LOCAL CITIZENS
THAT IS A BACK FILL THERE WERE
FOUR PROGRAMS THAT WERE
ELIMINATED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
REPRESENTING ABOUT EIGHTY
THOUSAND PARTICIPANTS ARE
PROGRAM CURRENTLY TO THE FEDERAL
PROGRAM SCALE SOMETHING BACK AND
AND YOU'RE TRYING TO RETAIN.
JUST SO AT ONE POINT THERE WERE.
MANY OF THE WORD NINE QUALIFYING
PROGRAMS THAT SOMEONE COULD
ESTABLISHED ELIGIBILITY FOR THE
CALIFORNIA LIFELINE PROGRAM SUCH
AS.
MEDICARE FOOD STAMPS WORK TANAH
FOR VARIETY OF PROGRAMS THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ELIMINATED
FOUR OF THOSE PROGRAMS PRIMARILY
NOT BECAUSE IN SHELVE THE
PROGRAMS OR WORTHWHILE EXAMPLES
OF ESTABLISHING SOMEONE'S
ELIGIBILITY BUT BECAUSE. THE
PROGRAMS DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRONIC
DATABASES THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
IS THE FCC IS TRYING TO MOVE
TOWARD A MODEL OF THE BILL TO
USE ELECTRONIC DATABASE STEPS TO
DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEONE
PARTICIPATES IN THE PROGRAM. IN
CALIFORNIA WE REQUIRE THEM TO
PROVIDE PHYSICAL DOCUMENTATION
THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
AND SO THEY ELIMINATED FCC
ELIMINATED.
FOUR OF THE PROGRAMS BECAUSE
THOSE PROGRAMS DIDN'T HAVE
ELECTRONIC DATABASES THAT BE
AVAILABLE TO DO.
AUTOMATED DATA TO DETERMINE IF
OF A. POTENTIAL PARTICIPANT LIFE
FINE OR WAS ALREADY
PARTICIPATING WOULD YOU ASK
THOSE.
WE WE'VE NOT DONE ELECTRONIC
DATABASE DIPS IN CALIFORNIA
BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF.
PRIVACY RESTRICTIONS THAT
REPLACING BASICALLY NEED TO GET
THE CONSUMER'S CONSENT.
TO DO THAT BEFORE WE DO IT. AND
THE CONSENT WOULD ALSO NEED
MELANIE BILLS INFORMED THE
AGENCY SO INSTEAD.
AS WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IN THE
PROGRAM WE REQUIRE CONSUMERS TO
PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THEIR
PARTICIPATION EITHER FOOD STAMP
CARD OR A LETTER FROM THE
PROGRAMS.
AND THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD THING
ARE WE THOUGH.
KIND OF CREATING A CALIFORNIA
ONLY.
.
SUPPORT HERE.
THAT IS.
PAID. A ISSUE THAT IS BOTH THE
COMMISSION IS CURRENTLY
WRESTLING WITH AND I THINK THAT
WERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION DOES.
AS THEY.
IF THEY SCALE BACK THE FEDERAL
PROGRAM SUBSTANTIALLY THEN I
THINK THE COMMISSION IN THE
LEGISLATURE. WILL NEED TO WORK
ON A SOLUTION. WHETHER THAT IS
TO HAVE A CALIFORNIA ONLY
PROGRAM OR TO MERE THE FEDERAL
CHANGES.
THAT'S ALSO SENSITIVE BECAUSE WE
WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL
ABOUT.
BASE BUILDING IN OUR BUDGET.
THAT THAT THING IS CREEPING IN
AGAIN EVERYWHERE.
COLAS ETCETERA AND. I'M I'M VERY
SENSITIVE TO THAT THAT KIND OF
AN ISSUE. LET'S TO GO ALONE OR
WERE WE IN CALIFORNIA TRY TO
EXCEED WHAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ACQUIRES.
AS WE DID WITH THE HEALTH CARE
THAT INITIATIVE.
ALL THAT SAID THAT'S A CONCERN.
BUT I'LL GET THAT ON THE RECORD
OKAY. THANK YOU.
SIX MONTHS ON THE LIFE ONE
PROGRAM I MEAN WE WE TALKED
ABOUT LAST YEAR.
PEOPLE GOING OVER TO CELLPHONES
FOR SYSTEM LANDLINES AND.
I MAY BE THE LAST PERSON WHAT
THE LANDLINE.
SOMEBODY ELSE HERE WOULD LAND
ONE HOW IS THAT GOING ON THIS
PROGRAM AMENIA WE SEEING IS IT I
ASSUME THAT PEOPLE SWITCH OVER
IN THEY'RE GIVING UP THEIR LAND
LINE BECAUSE THAT THE CELLPHONE
IS. JUST MORE VALUABLE TO THEM.
IS THAT GOODS THAT WE'VE SEEN
THAT EACH YEAR IS THAT. TRUE
TODAY YES SUCH TREND HAS
CONTINUED. AND.
THE RATE OF IT IS PRETTY MUCH.
REMAIN CONSTANT OVER THE LAST
YEAR SO WE SEE EVERY YEAR WE
SEE.
A MONTH OVER MONTH WE SEE FEWER
CUSTOMERS USING MORAL LINE.
AS THEIR LIFELINE SOLUTION MORE
USING WIRELESS.
THAT'S I THINK A LARGE PART
BECAUSE IT'S A VERY MOBILE
COMMUNITY.
AND HAVING THE WIRELINE SERVICE
MEANS EVERY TIME THE CHANGE
ADDRESSES THE HAVE TO RE
ESTABLISH SERVICE OF THE NEW
ADDRESS RIGHT VERSUS THE OLD
TIME WE JUST HAD ONE PROVIDER
AND. YOU KILEY AND YOUR YOUR SET
THAT COSTS COSTS MORE. BUT I
ASSUME THAT THE COMPETITION
BETWEEN THE.
PROVIDERS IN THE MOBILE.
ARENA IS CONTINUES TO BE ROBUST
ESTIMATE ACTION SOON SUBSTANTIAL
IMPROVEMENT OF THE BENEFITS FOR
CONSUMERS SO WALLER PROGRAM
DOESN'T FUND BROADBAND SERVICE.
MOST OF THE PROVIDERS NOW OFFER.
UNLIMITED CALLING UNLIMITED
TAXED AND BETWEEN ONE AND THREE
GIGABYTES OF DATA ON A MONTHLY
BASIS TO THE PURCHASE A LINE
JUST DID WAS BASELINE.
OKAY.
LET'S OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT ANYONE HERE ON.
LIFELINE ITEM NUMBER TWO
LIFELINE PROGRAM FOR STATE
OPERATIONS LOCAL SYSTEMS.
CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER AND
HOLD THAT.
ADAM OPEN MUST MOVE ON TO ISSUE
NUMBER THREE MONITORING CAN
COMPLIANCE OF LIFE I.
BUT SO IN THIS BUSY PEOPLE
REQUESTING FUNDING FOR
ADDITIONAL STAFF. BOTH A
TECHNICAL STAFF AND ALSO SUPPORT
IN FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE LAW
DIVISION. AND ALSO LEGAL
DIVISION AND THERE ARE THREE
PRIMARY AREAS THAT WE WOULD BE
INCREASING OUR ACTIVITIES AND.
ONE IS TO PREVENT WASTE FRAUD
AND ABUSE IN THE CALIFORNIA
LIFELINE FUN. AND THIS IS
CENTERED ON CARRIER COMPLIANCE
WITH THE RULES AND MAKING SURE
THEY'RE ADEQUATELY INFORMING
CONSUMERS OF THE UNDERSTAND.
WHAT CHOICES THEY'RE MAKING?
THE SECOND IT'S A CATCHY PHRASE
THAT WASTE FRAUD AND ABUSE.
IT IS A VERY POPULAR PHRASE.
ARE THE SECOND ONE. IS TO
DEVELOP PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS AND
STRATEGIES TO INCREASE RENEWALS
AND PARTICIPATION RATES AS YOU
REMEMBER FROM OUR LAST
CONVERSATIONS THE RENEWAL RATE
FOR WIRELESS IS SUBSTANTIALLY
LESS THAN WIRELINE IT'S ROUGHLY.
EIGHTY PERCENT FOR WIRELINE AND
FORTY PERCENT FOR WIRELESS AND.
WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF
INITIATIVES TO IMPROVE THE
RENEWAL RATE FOR WIRELESS LAN
WE'VE SEEN SOME SLOW GROWTH BUT
IT'S NOT NEARLY WHERE WE WOULD
LIKE IT TO BE AND. THAT ADDS TO
THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THE
PROGRAM AND SO. WITH ADDITIONAL
STAFF FOR HOPING TO.
MAKE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMATIC
CHANGES IN BETTER ANALYZE AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS CAUSING
CONSUMERS TO FALL OFF THE
PROGRAM EVEN THOUGH THEY REMAIN
ELIGIBLE.
AND THEN THE THIRD AREA IS TO
MORE TIMELY REQUEST BY SERVICE
PROVIDERS EITHER TO PARTICIPATE
IN THE PROGRAM WAS SOFT MORE
PROVIDERS THAT WANT TO JOIN THE
PROGRAM.
ORDER FOR THEM TO MODIFY THEIR
EXISTING PLANS AS I REFERENCED
EARLIER. THE PROVIDERS ARE
COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER IN
THE ROUTINELY.
INCREASED THE BENEFITS IN THEIR
PROGRAM IN RELATED FIELDS OF
TRUE THOUGH SINCE FAXES WE CAN
TO PROVIDE THE BENEFITS TO
CONSUMERS.
I HAVE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM
CENTER.
IT'S OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING
AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE
ON.
MONITORING COMPLAINTS
FLOODPLAIN.
I'VE. WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
STAFFER CONDITIONS HOLD THIS
MATTER OPEN AND WILL MOVE TO A.
B. SIXTEEN SIXTY FIVE. INTERNET
FOR ALL.
SEVEN SIX MILLION DOLLARS.
OKAY. AT THIS IS A BOTH A
PROGRAMMATIC A LEGISLATIVELY
DRIVEN.
HAVE BUDGET CHANGE PROPOSAL.
OF SEAT.
VISITATION.
THIS PROPOSAL IS TO FIND THE
CHANGES.
THAT WERE.
BROUGHT INTO STATUTE FROM LA.
IT TO IMPLEMENT AB SIX AND SIXTY
FIVE.
.
WE'RE ASKING FOR.
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ENGINEERS.
.
BUT WOULDN'T STERN POSITIONS.
TO CONVERT TO PERMANENT FIVE
LIMITED TERM POSITIONS.
AN ADDITIONAL.
I PROPOSITIONS ONE.
HALFTIME POSITION INTO LIMITER
POSITIONS TO IMPLEMENT. THE
MANDATES OF CHAPTER OF THIS
BILL.
YES HAVE HER IF I MAY ADD.
THE ORIGINAL ADVANCED SERVICES
FUND WAS ARE UP OF. A BILL THAT
HAD A SUNSET AND A MANY OF OUR
STAFF.
WERE THERE FOR HOW HARD WITH
THE PERCEPTION OF LIMITED TERM A
DISSIDENT A MAJOR EXTENSION AND
REFUNDING OF THAT PARTICULAR
PROGRAM. AND SO THE REQUESTED
GOES TO BASICALLY HAVE STABILIZE
TO STAFF AND. HAN YOU KNOW JUST
AUTHORIZED EXPENDITURE OR
GRANTING OF THE DISH WILL FUNDS
BUT THIS IS A MAJOR PROGRAM FOR
BRINGING BROADBAND TO RURAL
COMMUNITIES.
OKAY.
FINANCE ALEJO.
SENATOR.
WHAT IS A CONCERN I HAVE WOULD
HAVE ABOUT?
CREATION P. WISE THAT WOULD
LEAVE ANALYSTS THINK ABOUT THAT.
INCREASING BE WISE.
S. PRIME BROWN WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE WE.
LOOK AT THIS AND WE THOUGHT
THAT THE. POSITION REQUEST WILL
REASONABLE GIVEN THE NATURE OF
THE WORKLOAD.
AND THAT.
REQUEST ITSELF WAS CONSISTENT
WITH ENACTING LEGISLATION. THAT
I DO NOT REMEMBER FROM LAST
YEAR'S HEARINGS OR BEFORE YOU
BEFORE.
HAS A BACKLOG.
BEEN REDUCED.
THE PROGRESS.
HAVE TO DEFER TO THE THE THE
COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF THE
BATTLE.
I BELIEVE SO I MIGHT HAVE TO
CHECK AND GET BACK TO YOU THOUGH
TO BE TOTALLY SURE.
I KNOW WE'VE MET WITH A
DIFFERENT PROVIDERS AND WE'VE
ACTUALLY SPENT THE MONEY EACH
CELL LOTSA.
THE SORROW THAT SUGGESTS THAT
THE ACKLOG ISSUE HAVE BEEN
ADDRESS A WE FOCUS A LOT ON WHAT
NICOLE MIDDLE MILE AND THEN
FINAL MILE Y. WITH THESE FUNDS.
LET ME PROMISE TO GET BACK WITH
YOU I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A
BACKLOG WE BEEN WORKING. HARD TO
TRY AND.
REDUCE IT.
TO IT'S PARTLY WHY WE HAVE THIS
REQUEST IT'S HARD TO WORK ON A
BACKLOG WITH A LIMITED TERM
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE LEAVING OUR
CARGO. MOVE WE WILL MAKE SURE TO
GET BACK TO YOUR HONOR. WE WOULD
APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE MANY
MANY AGENCIES OVER DECADES.
AND KERR OF BACKLOG.
AND YEAR AFTER YEAR COME AND ASK
FOR MORE P. WISE MORE PRE Y.
SMART BICU WISE GOOD WORK DOWN
SO. THAT'S THE
ISSUE I'M GOING TO BE PRETTY
FASTIDIOUS ABOUT WATCHING.
WE'VE GOT SOME BIG ISSUES IN
THE.
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN
THIS AREA.
TILL. THEN THE NAY MILLIONS IT
THIS IS NOT A HUGE AMOUNT WHICH
IS JUST
THE POINT THAT WE HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL ABOUT.
SEVERAL IF YOU WOULD SIR THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR GETTING BACK
TO.
WE CERTAINLY WILL SENATOR.
AND. THIS OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON.
IS SHE NEVER FOR THIS IS.
THE CALIFORNIA ADVANCED
SERVICES.
FUN.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SMALL BONTA
ISSUE NUMBER FIVE IT'S A NUMBER
FIVE IS A.
WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN
ALLEN MARATHI ARE WITH ONE OF
THE GOALS OF THIS IS PART OF OUR
REFORM PACKAGE IN BRINGING OUR.
PRACTICES INTO LINE WITH OUR
CONTROL AGENCIES AND ADDS
ACTUALLY I'M INTRODUCING ALLEN
FOR THE FIRST TIME WE ACTUALLY
STOLE HER FROM THE CONTROL
AGENCY DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE.
AND.
AND SO IT ALSO SHOWS THAT WE'RE
MORE DIRECTLY ENGAGED WITH OUR
OUR OUR CONTROL AGENCIES AND.
TRYING TO TIGHTEN UP OUR
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR
WELCOME THANK YOU EAT I'M HERE
TO SHARE WEARING A DIFFERENT
HAT.
.
SO MY NAME IS ELLEN RIDE IN THE
DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE
SERVICES FOR THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION.
THE PC STAFF AS YOU KNOW HAS
INCREASED QUITE A BIT EVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS PROBABLY CLOSE TO
A HUNDRED FIFTY POSITIONS ARE
SO.
IN THE RISK WORTH BEFORE THAT
TOO AND WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THAT
THE ADMINISTRATIVE
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT
THAT GROWTH.
DID NOT GROW COMMENCED
COMMENSURATELY ON NOT ARGUING
FOR BUREAUCRACY TO THE CITY
BUREAUCRACY BUT YOU KNOW AS MORE
PEOPLE ARE ADDED.
MORE POSITIONS AND ADNAN ARE
NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
HR FUNCTIONS FACILITIES
FUNCTIONS ACCOUNTING FUNCTIONS.
AT THE SAME TIME DIFFERENT
AUDITS IDENTIFIED SOME
WEAKNESSES IN THAT
ADMINISTRATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR EXAMPLE THAT WADE SAID YES
AUDIT OF OUR CONTRACTING
FUNCTION. OF THE RISEN INTERNAL
AUDIT REGARDING.
ON SOME OF OUR FLEET PRACTICES
AND RECORDS RETENTION. AND SO
THIS BCP WAS PREPARED TO
RESPOND.
BOTH TO THE ADDITIONAL
POSITIONS THAT ARE NEEDED TO
SUPPORT THE GROWTH AS WELL AS.
VARIOUS AUDIT FINDINGS.
SO WITH THIS IBCT REQUESTS IS
ABOUT TWO POINT SIX MILLION
DOLLARS FROM VARIOUS FUNDS AND
TWENTY THREE.
POSITIONS TO HELP STRENGTHEN
DIDN'T THAT THE COMMISSION'S
ADMINISTRATIVE.
INFRASTRUCTURE CORE FUNCTIONS.
FROM THE BANKRUPTCY WORLD TEN A
NO I.
BEING IN STATE GOVERNMENT AND A
CALL FOR AN AUDIT I KNOW THAT LA
LEGISLATORS FEEL THAT THAT'S
THEIR. THEIR THEIR MISSION IN
LIFE I'M MORE FOR RECREATION
WRECK RECONCILIATION IN AUTHOR
SAID SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE
CHECKBOOK WE CAN HAVE AN AUDIT
AND THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND
DISRUPTIVE SOME WONDERING IF THE
COR ADMINISTRATION. IS AT
INCLUDE SORT OF RECONCILIATION
AND ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE WE GET TO
THE FULL. YOU KNOW THERE'S A BIG
PROBLEM PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IT
DO YOU ENVISION THAT IS WE.
SORT OF REORGANIZE THE P. USING
THIS PUBLIC IT FOR ALL AGENCIES
THAT THAT WE HAVE THIS JUST TO
RECONCILIATION FROM.
DIFFERENT PERSON LOOKING AT IT
FROM A DIFFERENT APP
PERSPECTIVE.
P. UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION.
I GUESS I I GUESS I COULD ANSWER
THIS ON.
THE GUARD THIS IS WHILE I
ACTUALLY FROM EXITING ARKAN
EXPERTS CAN SAY SOMETHING IS A
LITTLE EMBARRASSING ART RIGHT
NOW WE ARE HARD UNDERGOING A
FORMAL RECONCILIATION PROCESS.
BETWEEN OUR BUDGETARY COUNTS OF
WHO'S AT THE COMMISSION AND
WORKING AND OUR HR RECALCITRANCE
AT THOSE DISCREPANCIES. AND
WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING AN INTERNAL
BECAUSE
OUR RECONCILIATION SO THAT WE
KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S WORKING HERE.
AND PHYSICALLY WHERE THEY'RE
WORKING AS WE'VE BEEN GROWING IN
SIZE AND AS WE.
AND AS WE STAFF UP WE HAVE TO
BE VERY SURE OF WHO'S WORKING
WHERE THEY'RE WORKING WITH WE
NEED MORE SPACE. AND HOW WE ARE
WITHIN OUR BUDGET SO THAT IS THE
TYPE OF THING WE ARE DOING. A
UNFORTUNATELY BEFORE ELENA ROSE
THESE EXTERNAL AUDITS THEY
UNCOVERED REAL SERIOUS PROBLEMS
SAYS NO OTHER WAY TO DESCRIBE
IT.
OUR PROCESSES FAILED TO CONFORM
WITH STATE STANDARDS AND WE ARE.
DOING IN BUILDING THAT SO. THE
RECONCILIATION WE'RE DOING AS
PART OF THIS THIS ACTUALLY
WASN'T A PROBLEM IDENTIFIED.
BUT IT'S ONE WE ARE
INVESTIGATING OURSELVES.
BUT THERE ARE THESE OTHER
MATTERS WHICH ARE ARE REALLY
SERIOUS OUR CONTRACT PROCESSES
HAVE BEEN FOUGHT BY DG ES WERE
TIGHTENING THEM UP. WE ARE
TRAINING LOTS OF PEOPLE AT AND
WE JUST DON'T HAVE WE HAVE
ACTUALLY A BIG BACKLOG. IN
ACTUALLY LETTING OUT CONTRACTS
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE
DOING.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING CASH. NOW
BUT I THINK THAT COVERS A PRETTY
WELL. BY NOW I GUESS I ALSO
WOULD SAY THAT I SEE IT IS AN
ONGOING PROCESS THAT.
OUR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
COMES TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE
MINISTRY OF EXPERTISE AND IN ALL
AREAS OF AD MAN.
I'M NEW TO THE COMMISSION AND
SO I SEE IS AN ONGOING PROCESS
TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW REVIEW THE
ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS AND AND
THE CROP PERTINENTES FOR
PREVENT.
YES WE'RE BASICALLY PASSED
PASSING THIS BATON TO A NEW
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RUSSIAN.
FINANCE BELIAU.
DIDN'T YOUR QUE LET'S OPEN THE
PUBLIC HEARING ON THEM.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE CORPS FOR
BUILDING ADMINISTRATION FOR THE
PC.
WELL CLOSE
THAT ADDITION NUMBER FIVE AND
MOVE ONTO. AND.
GREAT EFFICACY FOR ELECTRIC
ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION THIS IS
ITEM NUMBER SIX
OR ISSUE NUMBER SIX.
A YES THIS IS A.
PROGRAMMATIC.
CHANGE ARE TWO EXPERTS ARE.
DOROTHY DUE TO FROM THE ENERGY
DIVISION AND KRISTINE HAMMOND
FOR THE LEGAL DIVISION.
MISTER CHAIR MISTER SENATOR.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON NBC P.
SEVEN WHICH IS REQUESTING ABOUT
ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
TO FIND OF FIVE PERMANENT
POSITIONS TO IN LEGAL DIVISION
THREE AND ENERGY DIVISION. AND
AN ONGOING CONSULTANT BUDGET AND
THIS IS TO ADDRESS ON THE
INCREASING COMPLEXITY AND THE
INCREASING TRANSMISSION RATES
THAT WE'RE SEEING IN CALIFORNIA.
IN THE PAST TEN YEARS ELECTRIC
TRANSMISSION RATES FOR
CALIFORNIANS HAS TRIP.
SO WE'RE STARTING FROM.
ABOUT TWO THOUSAND AND SIX
THE TOTAL COMBINED TRANSMISSION
REVENUE REQUIREMENT IN
CALIFORNIA WAS ABOUT ONE POINT
TWO BILLION.
IT HAS NOW GROWN TO ABOUT FOUR
BILLION DOLLARS IN JUST TEN
YEARS.
AND SO THAT'S A.
CUT COMBINATION OF FORCES THAT%
ARE DRIVING THOSE RATES OF.
.
THERE THERE ARE LARGE TRANSITION
PROJECTS IN CALIFORNIA THAT IS
TRUE.
THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT
OF MONEY GOING TOWARD NON MARCH
I CHECKED.
FUND EXPENDITURES WE'RE CALLING
THOSE THE.
SELF APPROVED PROJECTS.
IN A DEREGULATED.
MARKET WHICH WE NOW HAVE IN
ELECTIONS THE ELECTRIC
TRANSMISSION INDUSTRY. THERE IS.
.
A PORTION OF INVESTMENTS THAT
THE UTILITIES DECIDE TO IN.
.
INCUR AND THAT IS IN THE AREA
OF.
UPGRADES AND REPLACEMENTS
THAT'S NOT IN THIS AREA PESO
PRUE TRANSMISSION PROJECTS.
ALONE. IN IN KEEPING ITS CURRENT
RATE CASE.
.
SIXTY PERCENT OF THEIR CAPITAL
EXPENDITURES
PART IN THIS AREA OF SOUTH
APPROVED PROJECTS
ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS.
THAT SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS EACH YEAR.
OUT OF A ONE BILLION DOLLAR
CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.
BUDGET NOW THAT'S THEIR REQUEST
IT'S BEING LITIGATED IT HAS BEEN
LITIGATED.
BUT THAT'S JUST ILLUSTRATIVE OF
THE IMPACT OF SOME OF THESE RATE
INCREASES AND WHY ADDITIONAL
OVERSIGHT IS NEEDED.
THE CPSC INTENDS TO INCREASE
PARTICIPATION AT THE CHI SO IN
THE TPP PROCESS.
BUT AGAIN THAT'S JUST A PORTION
OF THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.
ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT IS NEEDED
IN THIS AREA OF SOUTH APPROVED
PROJECTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S THIS
THIRD AREA OF A ONE AND A ANGIE
I'M AN ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES
THAT REQUIRE SIMILAR OVERSIGHT.
AND AND.
QUESTIONING.
IN THE RATE CASES.
WILLIE DON'T WE.
ANCHOR WE ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES
TO INVEST IN THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE AND UPDATE THAT
IN ALL KINDS OF YOU KNOW ALL
KINDS OF ARENAS. ISN'T
NECESSARILY A BAD THING THAT THE
THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SEVEN
HUNDRED MILLION PER YEAR. NOT AT
ALL. NOT AT ALL WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE PRUDENT INVESTMENTS
PRUDENT EXPENDITURES WE WANT TO.
ENSURE THE SAFE OPERATION OF
THESE ASSETS
AND THE QUESTION IS IS HOW MUCH
IS AYE IMPRUDENT. HOW MUCH IS
UNNECESSARY? HAN IN THE PRIOR
RAPE CASES WE HAVE LOOKED AT.
.
WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS LITIGATED WE
HAVE HAD A PATTERN OF SETTLING
AND WE HAVE SETTLED.
TO THE TUNE OF SAVING RATE
PAYERS ANYWHERE FROM.
ABOUT.
FIFTY MILLION PER RAY CASE TO
TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR
RAPE CASE.
SO IT'S NOT THAT.
WE ARE CHALLENGING THE ENTIRETY
OF THESE EXPENDITURES JUST THE
IMPRUDENT ONES.
CENTER OUT I JUST WANT TO
MENTION MAKE SURE THIS IS VERY
CLEAR THESE ARE THREE CASES THAT
COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION BUT
THERE THE FEDERAL ARE RE CASES
AT FOR.
AND IT'S AN AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE
OUR ABILITY TO LOOK IN
PRUDENTLY.
TO TALK THROUGH THESE OKAY.
FORGET CENTER AND QUESTIONS.
ELIOT FINANCE.
LET'S OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING ON
THE.
ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION RATE
EFFICACY IS ISSUE NUMBER.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
WILL HOLD THAT MATTERS WERE
HOLDING EVERYTHING TODAY. AND
MOVE ON TO CARBON EMISSIONS.
THANK YOU.
SURE. A. GOOD MORNING THIS IS A
ANOTHER LEGISLATIVELY DRIVEN
BUDGET CHANGES PART OF PARK
SPENDING TEN A. MISSION AND THIS
IS PETE SCHOLAR FROM OUR ENERGY
DIVISION WHO WILL COMMENT ON IT.
HELLO THANK YOU. THROUGH.
FOR THIS ITEM WE ARE REQUESTING.
TO SUPPORT BOTH SENATE BILL
THREE FIFTY AND ASSEMBLY BILL
THREE TWENTY SEVEN AND AS PART
OF THE LARGER STATE EFFORT TO
REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS.
UP BOTH SIDES ADDITIONAL STAFF
TO ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.
AND.
CONSULTANT FUNDS TO SUPPORT.
THE ANALYSIS OF DISTRIBUTED NY
RE ENERGY RESOURCES INCLUDING
ELECTRIC VEHICLES BACKS ON THE
GRID.
.
DAHLE A BIG AGAINST HIS STATUS
AS.
ASKED THE QUESTION THAT WE JUST
HAD A PIECE WITH HIM HER CHEEK.
YA. DEPARTMENT OR COMMISSION
ABOUT YOU KNOW RAMPING UP TO
FIVE MILLION AS SECRETARY
INCREASED TO WORKLOAD AT THE P.
YOU SEE IS WE ELECTRIFY. ON MAR
VEHICLES.
BUT WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL IN THE
FUTURE. IF RECENT INDICATIONS
RECENT EVENTS ARE ANY INDICATION
WE ARE ALREADY SEEING A FIVE
FOLD INCREASE ISRAEL'S MISSILE
DEFENSE
THREE FIFTY. IN.
APPROVED ELECTRIC VEHICLE
PROJECTS.
AND AND WE HAVE MANY MORE FOR
US NOW THAT OUR CAN OF.
COMMERCIAL BE ADDRESSING LATER
THIS.
OF THE SPRING AND INTERESTING I
THINK MUSIC TO THE YEARS OF THE
PUBLIC COMMENTARY ABOUT EARLIER
WHO HAD NOTED THAT MORE MEDIUM
AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLE.
INVESTMENT IS NEEDED FROM
VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE
CURRENT DIE A PROPOSAL BEFORE US
ARE MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY.
FULL ALL THE ONES THAT ARE IN
THE FOURTH SET UP TO MOUNT THEM
THE BOTH THE ENERGY SETTLEMENT
YOU REFERRED TO AND THE.
AUTHORIZATIONS THAT HAVE COME
TO DATE HAVE BEEN. ALMOST NINETY
PERCENT OF BEEN LIGHT DUTY
VEHICLES.
AND.
MULTI FAMILY.
YOU DWELLINGS ON.
THAT PUBLIC PLACES BUSINESSES
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH FLIPPED
WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSALS THAT
ALMOST NINETY PERCENT MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLE.
THIS IS UP BY
FLEET.
SEAPORT OUT OF EQUIPMENT AT
SEAPORTS AIRPORTS.
.
THERE'S.
.
FUNDS FOR FORKLIFTS AND AND
POTENTIALLY.
.
BOTH IN TRUCK STOPS AND AND.
WAREHOUSES.
WHAT OPTIONS IN AND EQUIPMENT
TO KEEP OUR TRUCKS TRACTOR
TRAILERS FROM EILING WHEN WHEN
THEY'RE IN THOSE?
SELECT A SUCCESS OF THE BOOK IS
WELL BEFORE THE COMMISSION THESE
ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN.
BUT IT OUT THAT YES WE ARE
SEEING A PRETTY DRAMATIC
INCREASE
WE ONLY REQUESTED.
WITH S. B. THREE FIFTY ONE
ELECTRIC VEHICLE POSITION AND.
AND WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T IN THE
THREE TWENTY SEVEN.
CONTEMPLATE THE KIND OF
DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCE
ATTENTION THAT'S NEEDED TO TRY
TO MAKE SURE WE WE.
I IDENTIFY WHERE IT MAKES THE
MOST SENSE WHERE WE HAVE
ADDITIONAL CAPACITY SO THAT THE
QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED WAS.
AMONG OTHER THINGS WHERE THESE
GONNA BE LOCATED AND I TALKED A
LOT ABOUT WHICH CUSTOMERS WERE
PROGRESSING BUT THERE ARE A
COUPLE OTHER SCREENS ONE IS. NOT
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES WHICH
WILL NOT WHICH OF REPRESENTED.
TEN TO FIFTEEN TO TWENTY PERCENT
OF THE.
FOCUS OF THE OF THE EXISTING
APPROVED.
EFFORTS BUT GOING FORWARD IN
THIS NEXT TROTS BETTER BETWEEN
TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OR FORTY
PERCENT TARGETED TO DISTURB
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. AND
THEN ANOTHER SCREEN IS WHERE ON
THE DISTRIBUTION GRID IS THERE
ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
THAT THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM HIS
LOCATION NOT IN THE MOOD WHERE
WE BASICALLY GET.
EDIT MORE IF WE CAN INCREASE
ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND USE.
BUT NOT REQUIRE A LOT OF
ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE
UPGRADES AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO
SPREAD THOSE ADDITIONAL KILOWATT
HOURS ACROSS.
THE SAME TRICKS COSTS AND REDUCE
ULTIMATELY POTENTIALLY REDUCE
RATES.
THE BILL'S OF PARTICIPATING
POSSUM CUSTOMERS GO UP BECAUSE
THEY'RE CONVERTING ELECTRIC
FUEL'S ARTHUR RATHER FOSSIL
FUELS TO ELECTRIC TOOLS. AND.
NON PARTICIPATING CUSTOMERS
BILLS GOOD ON ALL ALL SEQUEL
BECAUSE CRYSTAL CONSUMING AMANDA
COULD SAVE A LOT OF ENERGY THE
COST AND SPREAD OVER MORE INTO
THE FIXED COSTS ARE SPREAD OVER
MORE. TOTAL COHEN HOURS NOT SO
CLOSE THAT THE KINDS OF THINGS
WERE LOOKING AT.
I DID I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THE
DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN ALL OF
THE PORTS WHERE THE BOATS COME
IN AND THEY HOW COME. THEY ELECT
LONG BEACH IS GOT. PROGRAM TELL
ELECTRIFIED THEM BUT THINKING
ABOUT THE TRUCKS THAT WOULD BE
IN DIFFERENT AIR INLAND EMPIRE
TRACY THESE TOWNS WHICH IS
STONE.
YOU DON'T NORMALLY JUMP ADAM AND
SAY ALL THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT
AS IT IS PART A SAVINGS BOND
THAT IS SAID. THEY WOULD BE YOU
KNOW I'M THEM THINKING THAT THE
CLINTON DAY. THE AVERAGE
HOMEOWNER WHO HAS AN ELECTRIC
VEHICLE YOU KNOW DRIVES AROUND
ALL DAY COMES HOME AT NIGHT
PLUGS INTO THEIR HOUSE IN CHARGE
IS IT. WHO AND THE SOLAR THE
ABUNDANCE OF SOLAR ENERGY
HAPPENS DURING THE DAYTIME SO IS
THE IDEA THAT THAT THESE
CHARGING OR YEAH ABOUT
POSSIBILITIES REDUCES IF THERE'S
YEAR ELECTRIFYING HEAVY.
TRUCKS COULD BE DEAD AND MIDI
CONVENIENCE CENTER HERE IN THE
MIDDLE OF YOUR ROUTE NEAR
STOPPING FOR LUNCH WHATEVER ONE
DOES CORRECTLY I ADMITTED OUR
RATE STRUCTURE INCIDENT THAT
WILL CERTAINLY WE ARE LOOKING
AT.
.
THE BEST DIDN'T HAVE WHEN WE
FIRST STARTED LOOKING ELECTRIC
VEHICLES STE LATER TEN YEARS AGO
WAS IT WAS NIGHT TIME WIND WAS
NIGHT TIME BASELOAD AND WIND.
AND NOW YOU'RE RIGHT THAT
THERE'S TWO OPPORTUNITIES ONE IS
NIGHT TIME AND THE OTHER IS IN
THAT DAY.
AND THE RATE STRUCTURES THAT WE
ARE CONTEMPLATING A CRITICALLY
LIKE IN THE COMMERCIAL AND SO
ONE WOULD BE THE YEAR SPEAKING
THINGS COMMERCIAL INSTRUCTIONS
WERE COMMERCIAL RESTRICTIONS CAN
WE.
SET UP TO INDUCE THAT SORT OF
STOPPING UP THAT EXTRA ENERGY AT
NIGHT AND NOW IN THE IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE DAY TO.
AND AND HOW DO WE COORDINATE
THAT WITH THE PORTS
POLICE OAKLAND CLOSES DOWN AT
NIGHT IN US WE HAVE THAT
CONGESTION AND IT DID. WITH
POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THAT
FACILITY ACCEPT THINGS HERE THEY
HAVE.
HAVE THEIR OWN ISSUES BUT THAT.
EVEN IF IT'S JUST FROM A
EFFICIENCY.
OR CARBON EMISSIONS RAR.
POSSIBILITY MAY BE BETTER TO
HAVE THOSE NOT BE SO ACTIVE IN
THE MIDDLE THE DAY AND BE
CHARGING. RECHARGING THE TRUCKS
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S INTERESTING. RIGHT.
CENTER NIELSEN OF QUESTION.
WHEN.
ON THIS.
BELIAU FINANCE.
IT'S OPENED UP FOR PUBLIC
HEARING THIS IS ISSUE NUMBER
SEVEN.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND NOW WE'RE AND A. B.. TEN
EIGHTY TWO AND A A. B..
TEN EIGHTY THREE. ONCE AGAIN
LEGISLATIVE DRIVEN.
MEGAN. CHANGES.
OUT SO WE ARE REQUESTING HERE.
TWO.
ONE LIMITED TERM POSITIONS FOR
ENERGY DIVISION ONE LIMITED
TERM.
SUPPORT.
FROM THAT POSITION FOR A OUT
FROM A TRAIL TO ADMINISTRATIVE
LAW JUDGE.
A LOT OF THIS IS TO IMPLEMENT
YES BOTH AVIATOR TO YOU WHICH
AUTHORIZES ARE EACH OF THE
UTILITIES THE PROVOCATIONS TO
PILOT. INFLATION OF EVEY
INFRASTRUCTURE AND.
EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND.
HE VETO THROUGHOUT TEN EIGHTY
THREE WHICH DOES THE SAME FOR.
STATE PARKS AND BEACHES.
AND.
FOR IT AT THIS TIME WE
ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO
BE ADDRESSING THESE APPLICATIONS
AND. A WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING
FOR ONE YEAR LONGER TERM
POSITIONS RECOGNIZING THAT.
THAT IT'S UNCLEAR.
WHAT?
A.
YOU WOULD BE GOOD FOR OR AGAINST
THE THE INTENT WOULD BE TO
ABSORB THE WORK OF THE ONGOING
WORK OF OVERSEEING THESE
POLICIES MULTI YEAR PILOTS.
WITHIN THE BROADER.
TRENT TURNS WELL
BY THE FOLKS WHO WERE ASKING FOR
THE PREVIOUS VCP AND ANOTHER
EXISTING FOR. THE IDEA OF ALL
TWELVE APPLICATIONS COME WITHIN
TWELVE MINUTES OF EACH OTHER.
HER TWELVE IN AREAS.
.
OKAY AYE THOSE PRETTY CLEAR
CENTER YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON
THIS.
WELL MORE OF KNOBS YOUR VACATION
AYE OPPOSED THE LEGISLATION AND
I. SORT OF OBJECT. WITH A LOOK
AT THIS IS A. IF YOU WILL A
SUBSIDY TO.
ELECTRIC COMPANIES TESLA FOR
EXAMPLE THE SUBJECT.
THEY GET EXPEDITED.
NOBODY ELSE THEM YOU KNOW THAT
JUST.
DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME THAT'S
ALL.
MOVIE CHARGE POINT BECAUSE
THEY'LL DO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE
RIGHT THIS IS A CHARGING
STATION.
OKAY.
BELIAU FINANCE.
IT'S OPENED THIS IS ISSUE NUMBER
EIGHT.
ON THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE AT OUR PARKS.
BEACHES AND SCHOOLS.
CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH LET'S MOVE ONTO THE.
GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY
TRAINING AND TRANSPORTATION
OVERSIGHT ACT OF TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN.
YES SENATORS.
THIS IS ALSO LEGISLATIVE DRIVEN.
AND BASICALLY WE ARE
TRANSFERRING THE REGULATORY
FUNCTIONS FOR MOVING VANS A FROM
THE COMMISSION TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF. A CONSUMER AFFAIRS.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN MEETING
PRETTY DIRECTLY WIZARD
PHARMACEUTICALS SUMMER FARES.
AS PART OF THE.
MOVING THE POSITIONS MOVING THE
FUNDING IN ASSURING THAT THAT
GOES SMOOTHLY. AND.
I.
BELIEVED WE. COULD JUMP AHEAD
ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION AYE
YES INDEED WE WE'VE BEEN IN
CONTACT AYE I KNOW WITH THE
ASSOCIATIONS THAT REPRESENT
MOVING DANCE.
BUT. I'M NOT SURE IF WE
CONTACTED YOU KNOW EVERY MOVING
TO AND THAT WE HAVE.
DREW AB I THINK PERHAPS A
DIRECTOR AT KEY CAN.
YES WE'VE STARTED THE PROCESS
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF OF THE DC
AND BEAR HAVE STEVE HAD SEVERAL
MEETINGS WITH THEIR STAFF WE'VE
HAD AN INNER AGENCY AGREEMENT
WITH THEM.
TO GET THE PROCESS GOING.
WILL BE A JUST A ISSUED A A
PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT WOULD
ALLOW OUR STAFF TO.
SHARED IF INFORMATION REGARDING
THE LICENSING SO BECAUSE THAT'S
CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION AND
THAT IS ON OUR NEXT AGENDA.
WE HAVE STARTED SCHEDULING
MEETINGS WE CAN.
TRANSFER OF KNOWLEDGE BOTH ON
THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND ALSO IN
THE LICENSING SIDE.
DOESA TWO SEPARATE GROUPS
WITHIN THE PC I'M SO WE'VE WE'VE
STARTED THE THE MOVEMENT
BASICALLY THE PROCESS IN TERMS
OF ENSURING THAT THERE'S A.
.
SMOOTH TRANSITION OF THERE'S A
LOT OF TRAINING AND THERE'S A
LOT OF.
YOU KNOW CHANGING TRANSFERRED
OF THE INFORMATION SO WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL DONE UP
PROPERLY IN TERMS OF.
I BELIEVE WE'VE ALSO OUR FOLKS
HAVE MET TO WITH.
THE CALIFORNIA MOVING
ASSOCIATION AND STORAGE
ASSOCIATION AND AND LETTING THEM
KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE WE.
THAT'S OF WHERE WE ARE.
THERE.
FINANCE LA ONE THE ANY COMMENTS
ON THAT.
MOVING ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA.
SCANNING CENTER.
LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON ISSUE NUMBER NINE.
HOW CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND.
PASSED THE.
PREPARE ADVOCATE.
STILL THE RAY FAIR ADVOCATE TO
COME FORWARD.
OKAY.
CAPTION
.
SO I WOULD AS LIEF
BEFORE WE DIVE IN ON OUR OUR
FIRST ISSUE I WAS LOOKING AT YOU
KNOW THAT.
THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO THIS
YEAR'S BUDGET AND THAT TWO YEARS
AGO AND I I SAW THE NUMBERS MOVE
UP FROM. HUNDRED TWENTY I THINK
WE HAD IT THIRTY POSITIONS OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT LAST YEAR
NOW HAVE ANOTHER SIX POSITIONS
JUST WANTED TO CHECK AGAIN ON.
HOW THE THE FIRST TRANCHE OF?
ADDITIONAL RELEASED WHEN I'VE
AS I'VE BEEN CHAIR THE. THE
ADDITIONAL PROPOSITIONS THAT WE
ADDED IF I CAN GET.
BILL WENT FROM ONE HUNDRED
TWENTY EIGHT POINT FOUR TWO ONE
TWENTY NINE AND NOW WE HAVE FIVE
MORE POSITIONS.
YES GENERAL OVERSIGHT OF.
HOW THAT'S WORKING OUT?
ONE FIFTY NINE TO THIRTY.
POSITIONS.
RIGHT SO.
IN NEW TWENTY SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN
WE HAD A HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN
AUTHORIZED POSITIONS AND WE. DID
NOT ASK FOR ANY POSITIONS THAT
YEAR WE ALSO DID NOT CREATE ANY
POSITIONS THAT YEAR.
AND THAT LAST YEAR WE CAME
BEFORE YOU ASKED FOR IT.
I THINK SIXTEEN POSITIONS WE GOT
TWELVE POSITIONS.
SO THAT BRINGS US UP TO THE.
THE ONE FIFTY NINE AND THEN OF
COURSE THIS YEAR WE ARE
REQUESTING SIX NEW POSITIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF MILLER
SOMEONE ELSE WANTS IT TO SPEAK
TO THE ISSUE OF THE THE
AUTHORIZED POSITIONS VERSES WHAT
IS.
ACTUALLY SHOWING IN THE BUDGET
GALLEY BUT. THE THE NUMBER OF
THE ONE THIRTY NUMBER THAT
YOU'RE LOOKING AT. AN ERECTION
GUESSES ONE TWENTY EIGHT POINT
FOR IN THE BUDGET GALLEY THAT
WAS NOT OUR AUTHORIZED NUMBER OF
POSITIONS THAT WAS USED FOR
DISPLAY PURPOSES.
INTO CHAU. WHAT WE HAD MINUS
ARE VACANCIES
OKAY?
HAVE THOSE VACANCIES BEEN
FILLED.
YEAH WELL WHAT YES THEY HAD WE
BEEN WORKING VERY.
VERY HARD ON FEELING ANY OF OUR
VACANCIES THE NEW POSITIONS THAT
WE GOT THE TWELVE POSITIONS THAT
WE WERE AUTHORIZED LAST YEAR.
OUT OF THOSE TWELVE WE HAVE
FAILED AL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR
ONE THAT ONE WE'VE HAD SOME
CHALLENGES WITH THAT'S THAT AT
THE FOR POSITION.
WHEN THAT PAY SCALE WAS
ADJUSTED FOR THE PER AS IT WAS
NOT ADJUSTED FOR THE FINANCIAL
EXAMINER SO WE'RE ACTUALLY
LOSING A LOT OF OUR FINANCED BUT
FINANCIAL EXAMINERS ARE MOVING
INTO THAT. THE AT PUBLIC UTILITY
REGULATORY ALSAGER THAT PAID
TWENTY THOUSAND OR MORE FOR THE
POSITIONS AT THE AL ELIGIBLE FOR
SO. SAID THAT IS BEEN A
CHALLENGE TO TO FEEL THAT ONE WE
ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY
OF.
RECLASSIFYING IT TO ANOTHER
POSITION IF IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
AND BUT YOU KNOW WHERE THAT.
ALL OF THE OTHER NEW POSITIONS
WE HAVE WE HAVE FAILED.
OKAY.
I'M BLITZ JUMPED ISSUE NUMBER
ONE THIS IS A.
THE INFORMATION SYSTEMS.
ANALYSIS.
SO ON. TURN Y. BECAUSE AGAIN
SENATOR NELSON ON IT'S A
PLEASURE TO BE HERE I ALSO
WANTED TO INTRODUCE MY DEPUTY
FOR ENERGY LINDA SERIZAWA AND MY
GOVERNMENT A FAIR ITS ADVISORS.
MATTHEW.
MARKETS
SO ON THE FIRST BCP ELECTRIC
SAFETY WERE REQUESTING TO SAFETY
POSITIONS ONE ANALYST AND ONE
SENIOR ENGINEER. THIS IS TO
FOCUS ON THE GROWING NUMBER AND
INCREASINGLY COMPLEX ELECTRIC
SAFETY ISSUES IN PROCEEDINGS
UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU KNOW WITH
THE THREAT OF INCREASING
WILDFIRES IN CALIFORNIA WE NEED
TO FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES MORE
IT.
NOW MORE THAN EVER AND OUR
EXISTING SAFETY RESOURCES ARE
PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE GAS
SAFETY ISSUES THEY THAT. SECTION
GREW OUT OF THE DISASTER IN SAN
BRUNO AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN
PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON IS DONE ON
GAS SAFETY NOW WITH THE. WITH
THAT THE FIRE ISSUES. IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT
ISSUES LIKE AT MITIGATION
EFFORTS LIKE VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT AND ALSO TO ACTIVELY
PARTICIPATE IN THE UTILITY POLE
LOADING WORK THAT THE COMMISSION
HAS UNDER WAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF
PASSES IT HOW MANY OF THOSE
PROCEEDINGS THERE'S GOT TO BE
MORE PROCEEDINGS BUT HOW MANY OF
THEM. ACTUALLY.
IMPACT DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND THEN LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS YOU KNOW AND I
APOLOGIZE I WAS ACTUALLY
SPEAKING TO THAT BCP ONE DID YOU
WANT ME TO OPEN ON BE SIEGEL
THREE. OPENS THEY WERE
DISCUSSING.
FROM THE VOTE ONLY OKAY I'M I
WAS IN.
I WAS IN THE DISCUSSION ITEMS.
O. OKAY THAT'S RIGHT I THOUGHT
YOU'D OKAY BECAUSE I THOUGHT
THOSE WERE MOVED IN DISCUSSION
BUT I APOLOGIZE OKAY SO WE WILL
I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LET ME
LET ME ATTACH ADVOCATES ON THE
ONE I WAS SLEEPY THREE. SO.
.
OKAY.
SO.
HERE OVERREACH REQUESTING ONE
POSITION THAT ROUTE RESEARCH
PROGRAM SPECIALIST WITCHES AS
WELL AS I GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION
SYSTEM MAPPING SOFTWARE.
THIS IS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE
ACCESS TO THE SAME TYPE OF
MAPPING SOFTWARE THAT THEY
UTILITIES USE ON THIS EXPERT
WOULD EVALUATE THE UTILITY
PROPOSALS TO ENSURE THAT THEY
ARE COST AFFECTED AVOID STRANDED
COSTS. MITIGATE SAFETY RISK AND
ALSO BENEFIT DISADVANTAGE IN LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES ARE CURRENTLY
OR A DOES NOT HAVE THE G. GIS
EXPERTISE OR ACCESS TO THE
MAPPING SOFTWARE. AND THIS MEANS
THAT LITERALLY WERE UNABLE TO
OPEN AND ANALYZE THE GIS FILES
THAT THE UTILITIES PROVIDE US
WITH. AND THAT ACTUALLY GOES I
THINK TO THE FIRST TO THAT
QUESTION THAT YOU WERE JUST
ASKING THAT THAT STAFF STAFF AT
SEVERAL GOOD QUESTIONS HERE SO.
IN THE FIRST ONE BEING IT WILL
ACTUALLY DID YOU WANT ME TO
TALK.
BEYOND THAT THE NEEDS OF THE
THIRTY THREE.
PROCEEDINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
WE GET DID SHE AYE S. YOU FIGURE
OUT HOW.
WHERE THEY'RE AT HOW WE DON'T IT
SAYS UNCERTAINTYRIGHT NOW RIGHT
SOME OF THEM WILL NOT AFFECT
DISADVANTAGED REALIZATION ONE OF
THEM MUST NOT HER? BUT I THINK
THAT'S WHAT THE.
OF THE THIRTY THREE PROCEEDINGS
THAT WE WOULD USE THAT THE GIS
SOFTWARE IN IS IT'S RIGHT IT'S
SO IT'S UNCLEAR I MEAN AT LEAST
AFTER SUGGESTING IT'S UNCLEAR.
YEAH SO IN INCREASINGLY THE
COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT MANY OF
ITS PROCEEDINGS FRANKLY COULD BE
EVEN MORE THAN THIRTY THREE AT
THE RATE THINGS ARE GOING.
THROUGH A LANDS OF HOW DOES THIS
IMPACT DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
WHERE SEEN THAT COME UP
APPROPRIATELY I WOULD SAY IN A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROCEEDINGS.
AND SO YOU KNOW I I CAN
CERTAINLY GET BACK TO YOU ON AND
THE SPECIFIC THIRTY THREE AND OF
THOSE THIRTY THREE BUT I WOULD
SAY THAT IT IT'S ACTUALLY A
GROWING NUMBER.
IN A LOT OF THE BIG PROCEEDINGS
LIKE TRANSPORTATION
RECTIFICATION FOR EXAMPLE ON
THERE YOU KNOW WE WANT TO BE
ABLE TO SEE. THEM WHERE.
THAT DAY.
IT EVEN CHARGING STATIONS ARE
BEING PLACED FOR EXAMPLE ASYOU
MENTIONED IT WHEN THE PC WAS
TESTIFYING IN THAT SOME AT SOME
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE
REALLY IMPACTED BY. A LOT OF
EMISSIONS AND REALLY POOR AIR
QUALITY PORTABLE OAKLAND BEING
ONE SITUATION AND SO IT'S
HELPFUL WHEN WHERE WHEN WE'RE
LOOKING AT. AT.
WHERE TOUCH UP SOME OPTIMIZE
PLACEMENT OF FOR EXAMPLE NEW
EEVEE AND INFRASTRUCTURE HOW
WILL THAT BENEFIT OR NOT HOW
WILL THAT BENEFIT THE
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES?
YOU JUST WOULD NOT MORE WE'VE
WE'VE MARRIED OURSELF TO THE
ENVIRO SCREEN AT LEAST WE'RE
GIVING CLING GREENHOUSE GASES
AND THAT. EXCLUDES THIRTY
COUNTIES MANY OF THEM ARE POOR
INFIRM OF FROM A EMISSIONS POINT
OF VIEW JUST BECAUSE THE WIND
BLOWS IN THE BAY AREA OR IN
OTHER PLACES IN. A CENTER
NIELSEN A.
AREA IN THOSE TRANSMISSION
LINES MAY BE COMING THROUGH
THOSE.
AS IN THE OLD DAYS WE JUST SAY
POOR AREAS NOW NOW THEY DON'T
HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE. HEIGHTENED
YOU KNOW EMISSION LEVELS AS WE
MEASURE IT UNDER THIS ONE SCREEN
SO THERE'S A QUESTION THERE OF
OF OKAY WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT
THAT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE
POOR THEY DON'T HAVE. THEIR.
THE COASTAL BREEZES WHO IS
MOVING AHEAD THAT IN THE.
THAT.
.
A CARBON.
THEY'RE SO GET I GUESS IT'S
A LOT OF AGENCIES ARE USING THE
THEY'RE THE SAME. ENVIRO SCREEN
THAT EPA HAS DEVELOPED AND IT
EXCLUDES SOME FOLKS WE'RE JUST
AND I'M JUST RIGHT WORRIED ABOUT
THAT RIGHT IT'S A GOOD POINT SO
THE BEAUTY OF THIS TECHNOLOGY IS
THAT YOU CAN. TAKE THE
GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND THE
UTILITIES PROPOSALS AND OVERLAY
IT WITH DEMOCRATIC THAT TEND TO
MAKE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AS
WELL AS AS.
YOU KNOW FIRE THREAT
INFORMATION E. INCOME
INFORMATION SO YOU COULD YOU
COULD LOOK AT WHERE
INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BEING PLACED
ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE THERE'S
CAL ENVIRONMENT YOU CITIES
CALLIN VIRO IS ONE OF THE
OVERLAYS OR YOU COULD JUST SAY I
WANT TO SEE. WHERE LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES ARE OR I OR I WANT
TO SEE WHERE E. OUTWHERE I
TRADITIONALLY DEFINED
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY AS AND
SO THAT'S THE IT ALLOWS YOU AID
LAWS YOU TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF? DOING
US OVERLAYS AND BEING ABLE TO
LOOK AT ALL THAT INFORMATION
TOGETHER AND REALLY MAKE
INFORMED DECISIONS AND ALSO FOR
THAT MATTER BEING ABLE TO.
ANALYZE THAT THE UTILITIES
PROPOSALS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I
MEAN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO EVEN OPEN
THAT THAT GIS FILES THAT THEY
SEND US.
CENTER.
ELLIE OVER.
OKAY THOSE.
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO HAVE
NOTHING.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR BEING
SENSITIVE AND UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE
WILDFIRES.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY. THERE'S
BEEN A VERY DRAMATIC CHANGE IN
THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH.
I GUESS I'D SAY GOVERNMENTAL
ATTITUDES ABOUT MANAGING THE
FORCE IN THE WHILE LANCE.
IN OTHER WORDS LET'S NOT
ACCUMULATE SO MUCH FUEL.
AND LET'S. GET RID OF SOME OF
THE TREES.
BEEN BURNED THAT HAVE DIED.
THAT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT.
I THINK PUBLIC POLICY CHANGE.
AT PLAY AND I APPRECIATE YOU.
BEING AWARE OF IT.
IT ALSO SOMEWHAT RELATES TO THE.
.
THE MAINTENANCE OF THE RIGHT
AWAY IS FOR THE POWER LINES.
THERE'S BEEN SOME INTERFERENCE
WITH THEIR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN
THOSE AND SO THINGS AND CRAWLED
XIN.
IT THEN IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR A
POWER LINE BOB.
BEGIN A FIRE THAT DID THEIR MANY
COMPLICATED ELEMENTS HERE BUT I
THINK THE FUNDAMENTAL POINT IS I
APPRECIATE YOUR SENSITIVITY. TO
THAT PUBLIC POLICY CHANGE THAT
MANIFESTS BUT PUBLIC POLICY
NEED.
.
BUT I JUSTHAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THINK WE'LL THANK YOU I
APPRECIATE THAT I I CERTAINLY
FEEL STRONGLY THAT THAT. ALL OF
US HAVE TO DO OUR PART NOW TO
PREVENT THE WILDFIRES IN THIS
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT SITUATION
BECAUSE WE WE KNOW THAT.
CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE
GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND SO
WE ALL OF US NEED TO STEP UP OUR
GAME TO TO MITIGATE THOSE THAT
THAT THREAT. ó I APPRECIATE
FROM THAT FROM THE ADVOCACY
STANDPOINT DID YOUR SENSITIVE
AND AWARE OF THAT.
OKAY LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON THE RATE PAYER AT. A
ADVOCATES OFFICE.
ON ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
OKAY OUT CLOSE TO A.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL GET IT
HOLD THAT MATTER IN. NOW YOU
SUGGEST THE NAME CHANGE I
QUESTION NUMBER TWO. YES WELL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE REQUESTING A NAME CHANGE
TO MORE ACCURATELY CONVEY OUR
PUBLIC INTEREST MISSION AND
SPECIFICALLY AS I'M OUT THERE IN
THE COMMUNITY MANY CONSUMERS ARE
CONFUSED BY THE WORD RAPE PARA
DOESN'T REALLY READ.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES AS A RATE PAYER THEY
THEY THEY PAY BILLS NOT RATES.
SO WE WE WANT OUR NAME TO
REFLECT THE PUBLIC IN FACT IT
YEAR OR A BEGAN OUR. ARMS.
YEAH. TELLS AS AN OFFICE AS A
PUBLIC STAFF DIVISION AND OUT OF
FORTY O. ARE A ARE ACTUALLY OVER
FORTY OR EQUIVALENTS AROUND THE
COUNTRY. ONLY TWO OF THEM STILL
USE THAT TERM RATE PAYER.
SO A WE WANT TO MODERNIZE
MODERNIZE AND UPDATE OUR NAME TO
MAKE IT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE TO
THE PEOPLE WE SERVE AND ASO.
IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN OUR
CONNECTION TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS WHEN PEOPLE GET ON THE
WORLDWIDE WEB THAT WE WOULDN'T
SAYS NO MORE ADEQUATELY LOOK AT
THE.
THAT OF WATERTOWN NAME THAT
THEY NOW. QUESTIONS MISS SENATOR
NIELSEN.
SUBSTANCE IN ANY WAY IMPLY A TO
IMPLY A.
.
CHANGE IN THE MISSION EXPANSION.
OR. IS IT JUST MORE CLARITY THAT
YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. YEAH
EXCELLENT QUESTION IT IT IS NOT
TO EXPAND OUR MISSION OUT WE
WHEN WE WANT TO. PROVIDE CLARITY
TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE IN
FACT THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IN
RAPE CASES AND OTHER PROCEEDINGS
AT THE COMMISSION DOESN'T CHI SO
IN OTHER PLACES AND SO. IT'S
REALLY TO HAVE A NAME THAT THAT.
CONNECTS AND RESONATES WITH THE
PUBLIC.
DID YOU HAVE TO DO A SURVEY TO
FIGURE THIS OUT OF JUST YOU CAN
JUST DISCERNED THAT THAT'S WHAT
WE NEEDED TO BE DONE.
WELL IT'S IT'S NOT A FORMAL
SURVEY NO ANSWER IT IT'S REALLY
BEEN JUST ON MY I'M BEING OUT IN
THE WORLD AND TALKING WITH FOLKS
AND AND AND I MEAN HONESTLY IT'S
NOT JUST THE CONSUMERS I'VE EVEN
HAD. UTILITY REPRESENTATIVES SAY
CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME PLEASE
YOU KNOW NOBODY KNOWS WHAT A
RATE PAYER ISM. SO THAT'S THE
BEST KIND OF SURVEY. DRIVE FOR
* THAT THANK YOU.
FINANCING ALEJO.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
MILLION WITH DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE FINANCE HAS NOT SEEN THE
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE SO WE
CANNOT COMMENT ON ITS BUDGETARY
IMPACT AT THIS TIME.
EITHER HAVE WE.
RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO THAT STATE IT
IS GONNA BE A BY BUDGET TRAILER
LANGUAGE. ARM THAT'S ABOUT THE
PUBLIC. GUY COMMENT ANYONE FROM
THE PUBLIC.
CARE TO COMMENT ON THE NEW AND
IMPROVED POSED.
NAME FOR THE REPAIR.
ADVOCATES OUR IT WAS CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S IT WE'RE DONE PALM.
WE WILL ADJOURN UNTIL NEXT WEEK
THANK YOU